| 00:00.02 | bob2 | Usiu: blahblahblah, bzip2 works for tons of people |
| 00:00.13 | bob2 | until you send a patch, youare not allowed to whine |
| 00:00.19 | mirak | StartBuck, yes, or if the /dev/hdsomething entry doesn't match because the harddrive was moved or something |
| 00:00.25 | nvz | amen |
| 00:00.37 | Usiu | bob2, now it works for me to... but the package is till buggy |
| 00:00.48 | shadebob | Hi, I search an another file manager than Nautilus on Gnome... Any idea? |
| 00:00.50 | bob2 | Usiu: so you sent a patch in? |
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| 00:01.34 | nvz | shadebob: why not nautilus? |
| 00:01.56 | Usiu | bob2, I'll try |
| 00:01.58 | shadebob | why nautilus ;) Just for testing another file manager |
| 00:02.25 | Function | nautilus is pretty much the only GNOME file manager |
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| 00:02.36 | nvz | shadebob: nautilus is a bit heafty. but realize in the gnome environment it plays the role of a file manager, network browser, media thumbnailer, desktop.. etc |
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| 00:02.50 | PSY0NIC | hey anyone know whey both the stylus and touchpad don't work at the same time on a thinkpad with the latest kernel but did with the 2.4? |
| 00:02.51 | Function | I tried XFCE4 today, it has a pretty nice file manager too, in GTK+2 |
| 00:02.52 | nvz | shadebob: so consider than when thinking about using something else |
| 00:02.58 | wpostma_ | ANyone know if Real Player 10 for Linux expects OSS only, and doesn't work with ALSA? |
| 00:03.02 | shadebob | I known.... |
| 00:03.25 | nvz | shadebob: gnome is perfectly usable without it.. I dont use it on slower systems.. but you will loose all those features |
| 00:03.29 | wpostma_ | I get *no* audio and no error messagefrom Real Player 10. |
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| 00:03.30 | gcs | Anyone can recommend a financial application in Debian with Gnome 2.x support? So gnucash is *not* good. |
| 00:03.39 | StartBuck | mirak: sorry, I dont think so, this is one of the major advantages of grub over lilo last time I checked |
| 00:03.46 | Function | wpostma_: use the Real binaries with mplayer |
| 00:03.47 | Function | ;) |
| 00:03.57 | nvz | shadebob: I like some of the 3d file managers if you have accellerated X.. they arent real practical but fun to play with since thats what you seem to be doing anyhow |
| 00:04.01 | Function | gcs: really, what's wrong with gnucash? |
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| 00:04.27 | mirak | StartBuck, I see. I use lilo, because the commands appear simpler to me, and I am used to it in fact |
| 00:04.34 | gcs | Function: Does not start, and it is for gnome 1.x. |
| 00:04.47 | wpostma_ | Weird, audio works fine in GMPLAYER, playing Real streams. |
| 00:05.02 | nvz | shadebob: tdfsb is one.. I cant recall the other right off hand |
| 00:05.10 | wpostma_ | How do I make Real binaries run under mplayer? |
| 00:05.15 | shadebob | nvz : thanks.... Actually I use rox-filer, it's so small and quick.... |
| 00:05.16 | KjetilK | I long time ago, I made an upgrade I didn't intend to, and have come to regret. When I do upgrades, I get an error: |
| 00:05.18 | KjetilK | ldconfig: Cannot mmap file /lib/libslang.so.1-UFT8. |
| 00:05.20 | Function | gcs: well iirc there is a GNOME 2 financial tool, I think it was gnucash |
| 00:05.30 | Function | gcs: but I'm quite sure there's another one then |
| 00:05.30 | nvz | shadebob: kde uses konqueror for web and file browser. and there is the xffm or whatever for the XFCE env. |
| 00:05.44 | Function | wpostma_: err, check mplayerhq |
| 00:05.46 | KjetilK | and I see this even after a full upgrade to sarge |
| 00:05.47 | StartBuck | mirak: I guess you'll need to use a bootable linux CD to alter LILO's config....or try to switch the hardware back to the way it was temporarily |
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| 00:06.12 | PSY0NIC | noone know the issue with the thinkpads? |
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| 00:06.35 | Elephantman | hi |
| 00:06.45 | gcs | Function: I could find some on freshmeat.net, but don't know which one is recommended, good etc. I am even volunter to make a Debian package out of the best if someone tell me which is one that. :) |
| 00:06.47 | Elephantman | how do I set a process "suid root" ? |
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| 00:06.51 | mirak | StartBuck, ok |
| 00:07.02 | nvz | Elephantman: man chmod |
| 00:07.16 | gcs | Elephantman: You mark the binary prior to start with chmod +s /path/to/binary |
| 00:07.24 | Elephantman | nvz> read that but I dont know what I'm looking for |
| 00:07.25 | Function | gcs: I don't know, I thought it was in Debian already |
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| 00:07.36 | nvz | Elephantman: suid wasnt it? |
| 00:07.37 | Function | Elephantman: 4755 iirc |
| 00:07.40 | Function | hehe |
| 00:07.47 | Function | are we helping someone to plant a backdoor? |
| 00:07.48 | Function | :P |
| 00:07.49 | PSY0NIC | guess not...thanks anyway |
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| 00:08.01 | Elephantman | nvz> not mentioned as far as I can see |
| 00:08.05 | Function | no problem PSY0NIC! |
| 00:08.06 | nbr1lamer | slam |
| 00:08.15 | nvz | Elephantman: dont lie to us, we know better |
| 00:08.16 | Elephantman | gcs> thanks, I'll look on that |
| 00:08.25 | gcs | Function: You mean he may be a script kiddie, patching master currently? :) |
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| 00:08.38 | Elephantman | nvz> said as far as I can see ;) |
| 00:08.39 | Function | gcs: ;) |
| 00:08.45 | Elephantman | nvz> maybe I see badly ;) |
| 00:08.46 | Function | Elephantman: read better |
| 00:09.08 | gcs | Function: Actualy bad joke, I don't want to see Debian cracked again. |
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| 00:09.30 | Function | gcs: how would this involve the Debian project? |
| 00:09.32 | Function | gcs: heh |
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| 00:09.37 | Function | hmm brb |
| 00:09.38 | Usiu | bob2, before building package flip -u in src dir helped I guess... |
| 00:09.40 | nvz | Elephantman: line 36 " set user or group ID on execution (s)" |
| 00:09.41 | TheBeast | from what I see, for sid there are different versions for the gcc compiler. which of them should I use ? |
| 00:09.49 | pem3v78 | how does one remove data from berkeley db ? |
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| 00:09.54 | Function | TheBeast: depends for what |
| 00:09.57 | bob2 | Usiu: that is not a good solution |
| 00:10.00 | Function | TheBeast: gcc-2.95 for kernels, always. |
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| 00:10.11 | TheBeast | Function: well, I use a lot the gcc compiler, it's one of my best friends :) |
| 00:10.13 | bob2 | Usiu: if the upstream is shipping DOS line endings, they need to be beaten to death |
| 00:10.14 | gcs | Function: Some time ago some Debian servers were cracked, and backdoored. |
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| 00:10.16 | Usiu | bob2, but there are many strange characters in manuals and other files.. |
| 00:10.17 | nvz | Elephantman: line 45 "(4) and set group ID" |
| 00:10.32 | wpostma_ | Maranatha, come lord jesus. :-) PS 95 is in the mass today. |
| 00:10.41 | Function | TheBeast: I'd stick to gcc-2.95 |
| 00:10.48 | wpostma_ | Wrong group. |
| 00:10.48 | TheBeast | Function: you want to say that 3.4 is not ok for a custon kernel ? |
| 00:10.57 | TheBeast | custom* |
| 00:10.58 | maestro[] | Usiu: info files are supposed to contain 'strange' characters afaik |
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| 00:10.59 | Function | gcs: anyone with enough skill to do that knows 4755 |
| 00:10.59 | TheBeast | sorry |
| 00:11.00 | Function | ;) |
| 00:11.23 | Function | TheBeast: read /path/to/src/Documentation/Changes |
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| 00:11.31 | Usiu | maestro[], strange... |
| 00:11.35 | TheBeast | oh |
| 00:11.35 | petemc | bob2: how was the party? |
| 00:11.51 | bob2 | petemc: still going |
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| 00:12.01 | phaethon | is there an archiver (backup use) best suited for CD-R/DVD+R/WORM media? |
| 00:12.02 | Usiu | maestro[], I'll try to remove with force that bzip2 and install those packages after flip -u in src dir and rebuild |
| 00:12.07 | bob2 | petemc: well, people still here, don't think many bugs are getting closed |
| 00:12.20 | petemc | bob2: good stuff. doing much boozing? |
| 00:12.49 | bob2 | petemc: hah, just drinking some german marks and spencer beer |
| 00:12.52 | darphbobo | s/gentoo/debian ? |
| 00:13.03 | bob2 | the fact convenience stores and service stations sell beer still amazes me |
| 00:13.26 | petemc | bob2: nice :) how much longer are you in uk? gonna make it to the mother countryC[C[C? |
| 00:13.29 | Usiu | maestro[], after flip -u and rebuild the packages installes correctly.. |
| 00:13.59 | maestro[] | Usiu: Ok, send a patch... |
| 00:14.23 | Bombo | ok next question, what do i need to get my sarge to switch the power off when i do "shutdown -h now" ? |
| 00:14.26 | cafuego | bob2: How is it more odd than _drive through_ bottle shops? |
| 00:14.34 | Bombo | i turned on APM in my bios |
| 00:14.44 | Bombo | "PM handled by APM" or something |
| 00:14.59 | gcs | Function: Not always true. I administered a couple of Irix some years ago. One of our O2 was broken into. Put that offline, cloned the hdd, and investigated. The .bash_history revealed that the attacker was a stupid script kiddie. Read man pages there, typed in commands with bad syntax etc. |
| 00:15.03 | Bombo | but shutdown does only turn off the hard disks |
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| 00:15.35 | mst | hhahha |
| 00:16.18 | gcs | Bombo: Selected real mode power off as well? |
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| 00:16.26 | bob2 | petemc: another week, then spain for a fortnight, then home...probably not enough time off for that sort of thing, unfortunately |
| 00:16.31 | gcs | Bombo: Try ACPI anyway. |
| 00:16.52 | petemc | bob2: sucks, ive just had a good harvest :) |
| 00:17.15 | bob2 | cafuego: well, yeah, but they're handy |
| 00:17.20 | bob2 | petemc: haha, dang |
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| 00:18.01 | bob2 | going to organise more time for that sort of thing next time, tho |
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| 00:18.14 | underdog | Hello everyone :) |
| 00:18.40 | cafuego | bob2: What are you doing in germany anyway? |
| 00:18.43 | Bombo_ | re |
| 00:18.47 | Bombo_ | anyone answered? |
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| 00:18.49 | Bombo_ | ;) |
| 00:18.53 | Bombo_ | APM anyone? anyone? |
| 00:18.56 | jetscreamer | look up in the sky! it's a plane! a bird! a frog! |
| 00:18.58 | Bombo_ | bueller? |
| 00:19.12 | gcs | Bombo: Selected real mode power off as well? |
| 00:19.13 | gcs | Bombo: Try ACPI anyway. |
| 00:19.16 | haod | hello |
| 00:19.45 | haod | msg gcs hello |
| 00:20.10 | bob2 | cafuego: the uk, for work |
| 00:20.17 | Bombo_ | gcs: dunno if it was an option |
| 00:20.30 | Bombo_ | gcs: i disabled ACPI for some reasons... |
| 00:20.55 | Bombo_ | gcs: did i disable ACPI in the bios? hmm ;) |
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| 00:21.04 | gcs | Bombo_: It is, believe me. |
| 00:21.05 | Deep6 | anyone done software raid 1 in debian? |
| 00:21.06 | Bombo_ | is that possible? |
| 00:21.13 | Deep6 | and got a good howto link? |
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| 00:21.17 | Bombo_ | dont remember |
| 00:21.31 | Bombo_ | i know i disabled ACPI on a different machine with win2k ;) |
| 00:21.43 | Bombo_ | hmmm |
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| 00:21.55 | Bombo_ | how would i use ACPI with linux then? |
| 00:22.18 | Bombo_ | is there any bios that is able to turn ACPI off? |
| 00:22.20 | gcs | Bombo_: Linux can reenable it. |
| 00:22.33 | Bombo_ | or is it just software/os that turns ACPI on/off |
| 00:22.39 | henke_ | Deep6, I have |
| 00:22.43 | Bombo_ | gcs: details please ;) |
| 00:22.49 | Bombo_ | gcs: at least a hint |
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| 00:23.19 | Usiu | maestro[], How can I send a patch ? the problem is in orign src... I can add flip for dependeces and add it to rules.. |
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| 00:23.29 | Function | gcs: well you can get unlucky, some easy exploit getting out oslt |
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| 00:23.47 | lanchow | mm can anyone explain me why i don't use the same symbols/keymap with rxvt and others Xapps ? |
| 00:23.50 | maestro[] | Usiu: make a diff between the original bzip2.info and the correct version |
| 00:24.08 | Usiu | maestro[], ok |
| 00:24.18 | henke_ | Deep6, I don't remember which howto I used, but here is one http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html |
| 00:24.26 | maestro[] | going to bed now... cya |
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| 00:26.28 | Bombo_ | hmm |
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| 00:28.08 | gcs | Bombo_: In the submenu where you enabled APM, there's an other option called ACPI. Enable it (compile it to the kernel), boot with acpi=on (or acpi=force if your machine turns to be very old). Then halt should really power off your machine. |
| 00:28.35 | gcs | Bombo_: I do not have a kernel source handy, but it should be enough. |
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| 00:28.50 | pearl | good evening |
| 00:28.50 | Bombo_ | gcs: i use standard kernel |
| 00:28.59 | Bombo_ | gcs: will it work? |
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| 00:29.16 | pearl | my xserver work great under stable |
| 00:29.21 | Bombo_ | gcs: kernel-image-2.4.27-1-686 |
| 00:29.27 | Bombo_ | i dont have space for gcc |
| 00:29.32 | Bombo_ | or kernelsource |
| 00:29.34 | gcs | Bombo_: That's OK. |
| 00:29.44 | Bombo_ | i have 10 mb free space ;) |
| 00:30.07 | gcs | Bombo_: Err? How big is your hdd? I have 1.2 Gb, and could compile my kernel. |
| 00:30.13 | Bombo_ | gcs: 800mb. |
| 00:30.32 | mirak | how can I create a grub boot floppy ? |
| 00:30.40 | pearl | /dev/hda1 37G 621M 35G 2% / |
| 00:30.40 | pearl | /dev/hda2 28G 33M 26G 1% /data |
| 00:30.41 | pearl | hehe |
| 00:30.42 | gcs | Bombo_: That's not enough. :( Any chance for an other disk, nfs share maybe? |
| 00:30.47 | tarzeau | mirak: apt-cache search grub floppy ? there's already one |
| 00:30.53 | Bombo_ | gcs: i have xfree86, fluxbox, openoffice, and some small other misc packages |
| 00:31.02 | pearl | 61gb available :) |
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| 00:31.21 | Bombo_ | gcs: yeah maybe, but if its working its ok you say its ok ;) |
| 00:31.29 | Bombo_ | erm with the kernel-image-2.4.27-1-686 |
| 00:31.30 | Bombo_ | ;) |
| 00:31.31 | gcs | Bombo_: I think you have a real old machine. |
| 00:31.43 | Bombo_ | gcs: i KNOW ;) |
| 00:31.44 | nbr1lamer | olllllddddd |
| 00:31.46 | Bombo_ | but its working. |
| 00:31.49 | gcs | Bombo_: Not sure it will even work. :| |
| 00:31.54 | Caesar | Can anyone tell me how to get a key (any key will do) to act as Meta in Gnome Terminal? |
| 00:31.58 | Bombo_ | well its a celeron. |
| 00:32.06 | mrwill | Bombo_: that's not so old. |
| 00:32.08 | Bombo_ | it has ACPI/APM features |
| 00:32.19 | nbr1lamer | whoooo |
| 00:32.21 | Bombo_ | 350mhz celeron. |
| 00:32.22 | Bombo_ | ;) |
| 00:32.23 | gcs | pearl: That's nothing. I have a machine with ~350 gigs. |
| 00:32.33 | Bombo_ | stone age ;) |
| 00:32.46 | gcs | Bombo_: No, that's fine! |
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| 00:32.50 | Bombo_ | yeah |
| 00:32.51 | mirak | tarzeau, thanks |
| 00:32.57 | nbr1lamer | have you all beat, I have an original hard wired IBM XT |
| 00:33.04 | Bombo_ | so just booting with acpi=on should do the hjob? |
| 00:33.11 | gcs | Bombo_: I thought it's old, at least the one with 1.2 Gb hdd here is a PI 200Mhz. |
| 00:33.38 | Bombo_ | gcs: i have a pI 100 here with a 1.2gb hd ;) |
| 00:33.50 | gcs | Bombo_: But my C400 with an Abit motherboard was working. I mean APM and poweroff. |
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| 00:34.05 | pearl | gcs: i have completely 120gig |
| 00:34.10 | pearl | thats enough |
| 00:34.13 | nbr1lamer | you have no lived until you played with a 10 meg hard drive |
| 00:34.26 | Bombo_ | my first HD was a 105mb one ;) |
| 00:34.29 | gcs | Bombo_: Install Linux on it, share the hdd with NFS, and you are ready to compile your kernel. :) |
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| 00:34.46 | mrwill | Bombo_: I think I still have a 100meg drive lying around somewhere. |
| 00:34.52 | nbr1lamer | ok enough i'll show you mine, your etc |
| 00:34.58 | Meltir | im looking at a 5"25 floppy drive right now |
| 00:35.12 | gcs | pearl: Well, yes. You are right. See, I have ~350 Gb, but full with stuff I don't mind deleting anytime. |
| 00:35.16 | pearl | Meltir: i have a lot of them :-p |
| 00:35.22 | Bombo_ | gcs: no i already have a running woody on it, and also not much free space ;) ah comeon i dont want to compile ;) |
| 00:35.22 | BeatrIX | Anyone here running debian with a slow cpu? |
| 00:35.28 | asg | BeatrIX: define slow |
| 00:35.37 | Meltir | pearl, this one is still operational :) |
| 00:35.42 | gcs | BeatrIX: I am. |
| 00:35.48 | grepper | not me, I have a PII 400 screamer |
| 00:35.48 | BeatrIX | how slow |
| 00:35.55 | moshii | BeatrIX, 50mhz sparc ... did a 25mhz 68040 before |
| 00:36.18 | Meltir | funny how old hardware still works, but the new breaks-down after a year or so |
| 00:36.25 | nbr1lamer | boy almost an 80 cromemco |
| 00:36.26 | asg | Meltir: that's progress |
| 00:36.29 | gcs | Bombo_: Well, the kernel should work, but as I never use Debian kernels I can not help you further now. :( |
| 00:36.33 | Meltir | :) |
| 00:36.38 | gcs | BeatrIX: PI, 200Mhz. |
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| 00:36.54 | Bombo_ | mrwill: is it working? mine died after exactly 1 year. i destroyed it with a hammer and nailed it onto a wood block ;) |
| 00:37.00 | FieldySnuts | badgers? |
| 00:37.02 | asg | !tell ewfot about root |
| 00:37.04 | Bombo_ | gcs: ok i will try |
| 00:37.04 | Meltir | wait a minute.... i still have a timex2048 lying around someware |
| 00:37.23 | Meltir | 65K of ram.... |
| 00:37.23 | Bombo_ | gcs: but it is possible without ACPI, isn't it? |
| 00:37.25 | Bombo_ | just APM |
| 00:37.32 | gcs | Fuck, almost lost my laptop, the AC cable unplugged somewhen, and my batteries almost dry. |
| 00:37.45 | Bombo_ | if the bios supports it |
| 00:37.46 | asg | Bombo_: yes, apm will power off your system just fine (at least it does for my two laptops.) |
| 00:37.55 | Bombo_ | asg: how? |
| 00:38.04 | mrwill | Bombo_: have no idea, haven't had occasion to use it in years -- I pull 2-4gig drives out of scavenged computers for free nowadays. |
| 00:38.08 | Bombo_ | asg: currently i just enabled "APM" in my bios |
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| 00:38.15 | gcs | Bombo_: Yes, APM should be fine for that machine. Subscribe to debian-kernel@ and ask there. |
| 00:38.23 | asg | ewfot: login as a different user, not root, and then join. |
| 00:38.37 | gcs | Bombo_: Maybe better on debian-devel@ if you don't mind the high volumen. |
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| 00:39.35 | Bombo_ | gcs: oh no i already subscribed to to many mls ;/ i better google and ask here ;) |
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| 00:40.10 | gcs | ... and well, my heels are killing me. |
| 00:40.11 | resiak | !win gcs |
| 00:40.13 | dpkg | Congratulations, gcs! You have won the US presidency! |
| 00:40.14 | pearl | model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+ |
| 00:40.14 | pearl | stepping : 2 |
| 00:40.14 | pearl | cpu MHz : 1526.870 |
| 00:40.14 | pearl | cache size : 256 KB |
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| 00:40.27 | FieldySnuts | moron |
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| 00:40.36 | Piru | ugh |
| 00:40.44 | pearl | lol |
| 00:40.48 | dondelelcaro | pearl: don't paste here. |
| 00:40.50 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.00 | pearl | this bot kick me for a flood |
| 00:41.05 | Piru | no shit |
| 00:41.07 | FieldySnuts | here we go... |
| 00:41.10 | asg | FieldySnuts: /sbin/reboot perhaps |
| 00:41.11 | pearl | but if i join i will flooded by all the peoples |
| 00:41.14 | Bombo_ | !win Bombo_ |
| 00:41.15 | dpkg | Congratulations, Bombo_! You have won the US presidency! |
| 00:41.15 | pearl | this big nicklist |
| 00:41.16 | pearl | =) |
| 00:41.17 | Bombo_ | yay |
| 00:41.17 | FieldySnuts | asg: true |
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| 00:41.33 | Bombo_ | apt-get install acpi apmd powermgmt |
| 00:41.37 | dondelelcaro | pearl: then get a sane client that doesn't show you the /who at join. |
| 00:41.41 | Bombo_ | lets see if there is any usable tool ;) |
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| 00:41.45 | cdm0 | can someone help me resolve this error so my internet/dhcp works on my linux box (image of error: http://www.doctorlahijani.com/linux/network.jpg) |
| 00:41.45 | asg | pearl: your clients inability to handle large channels is non of our concern |
| 00:41.46 | dondelelcaro | pearl: but it's your fault anyway. Read /topic while you're at it. |
| 00:41.47 | Piru | pearl, easy fix: don't flood and get kicked. read the topic |
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| 00:41.57 | asg | s/nts/nt's/ |
| 00:42.09 | FieldySnuts | badgers |
| 00:42.14 | mrwill | cdm0: image not found -- link broken |
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| 00:42.32 | cdm0 | the link works |
| 00:42.33 | hanoi_pm | how to tell aptitude/apt-get to get from many sources concurrently? I want to speed up the slow download |
| 00:42.49 | dondelelcaro | hanoi_pm: get a faster mirror, then. |
| 00:43.04 | resiak | FieldySnuts: Snake? |
| 00:43.25 | dondelelcaro | cdm0: your DHCP server isn't responding. Unless you've got a custom kernel, the problem is almost definetly with your DHCP server. |
| 00:43.26 | mrwill | cdm0: oh, I see, you put the parentheses in the link accidentally. |
| 00:43.27 | hanoi_pm | dondelelcaro: I can't find a faster mirror, and I also have multihomed host, download will be faster if I download from different sources |
| 00:43.35 | FieldySnuts | resiak: eh? |
| 00:43.48 | mrwill | cdm0: or rather, my client did. |
| 00:43.57 | moshii | hanoi_pm, there's a bittorrent'd apt system in the works as well ... it's in one of the past DWN's |
| 00:44.19 | dondelelcaro | hanoi_pm: if you have multiple source lines, apt-get will download from multiple places if there are .debs available only at those places. |
| 00:44.24 | hanoi_pm | moshii: oh yeah, it looks like what I want |
| 00:45.17 | hanoi_pm | dondelelcaro: I added 5 mirrors, perhaps only 1 mirror has what I want, thank you for your info, I thought that every mirror has everything |
| 00:45.18 | wnorrix | damn i missed apt :) |
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| 00:45.44 | moshii | hanoi_pm, probably isn't all that fast now.. but as people on fat uni pipes start using it ... ~_^ |
| 00:45.47 | dondelelcaro | hanoi_pm: having 5 mirrors is pretty pointless. |
| 00:45.51 | cdm0 | dondelelcaro: my router's dhcp is working fine, i have several comps connected to it (this one which is my windows box) ... i think its a config file or something, when i first installed my dist (userlinux) internet was working fine, now its not |
| 00:45.55 | dondelelcaro | hanoi_pm: you just need one or 2. |
| 00:46.30 | dondelelcaro | cdm0: the fact that the box is not getting back DHCPOFFER packets tells me otherwise. |
| 00:46.44 | mrwill | cdm0: are you using userlinux now? |
| 00:47.07 | dondelelcaro | cdm0: assuming the DCHPDISCOVER packets are actually egressing from eth0, and making it to the router, all should be well. |
| 00:48.09 | resiak | FieldySnuts: 00:42 < FieldySnuts> badgers |
| 00:48.15 | FieldySnuts | ?! |
| 00:48.33 | dondelelcaro | !badger FieldySnuts |
| 00:48.34 | dpkg | ENOUGH |
| 00:48.38 | FieldySnuts | ;/ |
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| 00:48.40 | asg | resiak: he does the nightshift for sussudio |
| 00:48.45 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that factoid has been munged... |
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| 00:49.37 | resiak | !mushroom renzo |
| 00:49.42 | cdm0 | mrwill: yes |
| 00:49.48 | resiak | Sorry, renzo. That wasn't aimed at you... |
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| 00:51.14 | dondelelcaro | cdm0: anyway, run tcpdump; to see what packets are being sent out, and which are being sent in. Your router should also have a debugging mode where you can see the dhcp packets that are hitting it. |
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| 00:55.47 | under | Good Evening |
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| 01:00.07 | mrwill | Top of the Evenin' to you, under. |
| 01:00.20 | cdm0 | i think i figured out the problem... my eth0 is utilizing my firewire card (this line is from dmesg "ip1394: eth0: ieee-1394 ipv4 over 1394 ethernet (fwhost-0)") ... how can i fix it to use my nic card |
| 01:00.20 | asg | beers all around then |
| 01:00.48 | mrwill | cdm0: your nic card is probably a different interface, then. |
| 01:01.06 | mrwill | cdm0: like eth1 or such |
| 01:01.09 | The_Vulture | bah!! |
| 01:01.13 | scarynetworkguy | Why does he have a network interface card card? |
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| 01:01.23 | cdm0 | lol |
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| 01:01.30 | asg | spoopin: welshie? |
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| 01:01.48 | mrwill | scarynetworkguy: because I'm just using the terms he uses to avoid making things even more complicated? |
| 01:01.49 | resiak | !beer asg |
| 01:01.53 | asg | resiak: :) |
| 01:01.57 | scarynetworkguy | mrwill: Bah. :) |
| 01:02.00 | spoopin | asg: I'll explain later. How's it goin? |
| 01:02.05 | asg | spoopin: not bad you? |
| 01:02.05 | resiak | !vodka resiak |
| 01:02.13 | mrwill | scarynetworkguy: well, too late now. |
| 01:02.19 | scarynetworkguy | mrwill: Oh well. |
| 01:02.28 | spoopin | asg: nursing a sore back, but otherwise alright. |
| 01:02.34 | asg | spoopin: ah |
| 01:02.58 | Piru | the knights who say ni! |
| 01:03.02 | spoopin | asg: La Maudite, eh. |
| 01:03.07 | Piru | ni! card |
| 01:03.19 | asg | spoopin: hehe, a special addition for simonrvn |
| 01:04.13 | spoopin | asg: quite |
| 01:04.30 | asg | spoopin: yes. Finally got the blades to connect to the SAN :) |
| 01:05.11 | resiak | !vodka me |
| 01:05.14 | resiak | =) |
| 01:05.16 | spoopin | asg: cool. Were they the ones you needed the bootable CD for? |
| 01:05.38 | asg | spoopin: yeah but it didn't work (the blades have a really odd pcmcia/usb bus contraption that defies logic and knoppix as well.) |
| 01:05.49 | asg | spoopin: the problem was a PEBKAC on jeff's part |
| 01:06.13 | spoopin | asg: Oh. gotta love it when one of the bosses screws it up :) |
| 01:06.33 | asg | spoopin: yeah. He did just have another baby though so he isn't right upstairs |
| 01:06.45 | asg | spoopin: well, mrs. jeff did, he only supervised |
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| 01:07.09 | spoopin | asg: indeed. I'll look forward to the details tomorrow |
| 01:07.13 | asg | quite |
| 01:07.21 | spoopin | asg: not the ones about mrs. jeff |
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| 01:07.58 | asg | spoopin: yeah, I stay away from such things |
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| 01:09.10 | spoopin | asg: right - I think I've got that Perl script figured out |
| 01:09.25 | asg | spoopin: ah cool, I haven't had much time to look at it this week. |
| 01:09.45 | asg | spoopin: did you get my muttprint hackage? |
| 01:09.54 | spoopin | asg: that odd unary + happens to be covered in the modules and objects book |
| 01:10.10 | asg | spoopin: ah |
| 01:10.32 | spoopin | asg: yes I did, but I didn't really grok it - must be overlooking something |
| 01:11.00 | asg | spoopin: I'll explain tomorrow. Pretty useless but there are times when I need to print emails for meetings (so I can scribble and look interested.) |
| 01:11.26 | spoopin | asg: oh, and speaking of that book, I'm going to try something really unusual with it. |
| 01:11.34 | spoopin | asg: I'm going to return it to you. |
| 01:11.38 | asg | spoopin: haha |
| 01:11.42 | asg | spoopin: did you finish it? |
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| 01:11.48 | stew | asg: you can't just bring a crossword puzzle to meetings or something? :) |
| 01:11.52 | asg | spoopin: do you want the panther book next? |
| 01:12.05 | asg | stew: no, unfortunately |
| 01:12.13 | spoopin | asg: I finished it yesterday - and I've decided to get a copy of my own, anyway |
| 01:12.20 | asg | spoopin: cool |
| 01:12.26 | spoopin | asg: vastly useful :) |
| 01:12.36 | asg | spoopin: excellent |
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| 01:13.04 | spoopin | asg: yeah, it was the printing bit that threw me about what you sent me. I didn't think you ever printed anything. |
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| 01:13.38 | asg | spoopin: you have to type 'p' in mutt and all the nonsense then results in a pretty print a few doors down from my office. |
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| 01:13.44 | rich_ | Hello everyone |
| 01:14.01 | spoopin | asg: nice :) |
| 01:14.01 | mrwill | rich_: hello |
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| 01:14.08 | spoopin | rich_: hi |
| 01:14.12 | asg | spoopin: besides, I get a cool penguin icon which the Exchange folks at the meetings don't have on theirs |
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| 01:14.42 | spoopin | asg: haha. all about status symbols, I guess. |
| 01:14.50 | asg | spoopin: yes ;) |
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| 01:16.10 | jetscreamer | how many gd clipboards are there |
| 01:16.42 | jetscreamer | aka buffers for cut&paste |
| 01:16.43 | cdm0 | whats the command i use to set new mirrors for apt? |
| 01:16.49 | resiak | jetscreamer: Well, down at my local stationers, about 100. |
| 01:16.50 | asg | cdm0: apt-setup |
| 01:16.51 | resiak | ;) |
| 01:16.54 | jetscreamer | apt-setup |
| 01:17.01 | jetscreamer | or edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 01:17.12 | jetscreamer | you may have to apt-get install apt-setup |
| 01:17.27 | ticklish | Hello how do I install the latest kernel for debian ? 2.6.9 ? |
| 01:17.38 | mrwill | ticklish: with apt-get |
| 01:17.40 | jetscreamer | resiak, ha-ha...ha. |
| 01:17.51 | resiak | jetscreamer: Seriously though, in what? |
| 01:18.15 | ticklish | mrwill: which repository should I use ? stable, unstable or testing ? |
| 01:18.21 | jetscreamer | resiak, with debian, mozilla, gedit, icewm,mozilla-mail..... |
| 01:18.32 | mrwill | ticklish: uh, what version of debian are you running? you should use that. |
| 01:18.34 | bob2 | everytime I see somehow emulating me, I get scared and laugh |
| 01:18.36 | jetscreamer | cut&paste stuff |
| 01:18.44 | bob2 | especially if they do it subconciously |
| 01:18.47 | gcs | Bye |
| 01:18.47 | asg | bob2: someone at the BSP? |
| 01:18.51 | mrwill | bob2: yeah, I do the same because of you. |
| 01:18.52 | resiak | jetscreamer: X has two clipboards: the selection, and the C-x C-v one. |
| 01:19.08 | mrwill | bob2: pretty funny huh? |
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| 01:19.38 | jetscreamer | k thx resiak |
| 01:19.39 | resiak | jetscreamer: Those are shared between all X apps. Other apps (such as vim) may have internal clipboards, only useable within that app. |
| 01:19.46 | jetscreamer | yeah |
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| 01:21.32 | ticklish | How can I reconfigure the screen resolution on my desktop ? (sorry, I am a relative newcomer to linux) |
| 01:21.42 | asg | ticklish: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 01:22.37 | ticklish | Are there any gui tools that I or any other users of my machine can use ? |
| 01:22.46 | kevix | ticklish, sometimes I use 'X -configure' |
| 01:22.47 | ticklish | asg:thanks |
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| 01:23.11 | asg | ticklish: at this point, we usually say 'xterm -e dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
| 01:23.48 | kevix | ticklish, althought I'd expect only an admin to configure X. |
| 01:23.52 | resiak | ticklish, kevix: That's a Bad Idea(tm), because once you edit the X conf outside of dpkg-rec., dpkg-rec. xserver-blah won't work any more without some poking. |
| 01:24.14 | asg | resiak: for poking, /msg dpkg x md5sum |
| 01:24.14 | ericb | when I type dmesg I get about 200 like thoses... does this mean my hard drive will die soon ?hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } |
| 01:24.21 | greycat | on the other hand, once you get it configured right, you don't *want* things poking around with it |
| 01:24.23 | asg | ericb: time for a backup |
| 01:24.33 | ericb | that's what I'm doing |
| 01:24.34 | resiak | ticklish: If you set up a range of resolutions in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 , then a user can pick one of those without reconfiguring the x server. |
| 01:24.36 | kevix | resiak, yes I know --- the md5sum thing with debconf |
| 01:24.36 | ticklish | I assume that dpkg-reconfigure is the general program I use to change stuff, for example add new users, assign quotas etc |
| 01:24.39 | asg | ericb: then time to buy a new drive |
| 01:24.48 | ericb | I never played with hdparam |
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| 01:24.55 | resiak | asg: Thanks, I'd forgotten exactly what the factoid was called. |
| 01:24.57 | ericb | so it's not a buggy hdparam setting |
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| 01:25.00 | asg | ericb: sometimes drives just die |
| 01:25.02 | ericb | it's really the drive that's dying |
| 01:25.12 | ericb | asg : ok thx |
| 01:25.35 | cafuego | ericb: Well, swap the ide cable first, see if that help.s |
| 01:25.44 | cafuego | ericb: Also check smartmontools |
| 01:26.13 | ericb | thx acuego |
| 01:26.17 | fluke | make sure the drive receives both 12v and 5v, sometimes one of the 4 wires is "loose" in the connector.. |
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| 01:26.41 | ericb | but that drive is what.. 6-7yrs old and is 6gb.. time for an upgrade |
| 01:26.41 | kevix | ericb, what kernel are you using? did you upgrade recentlry? |
| 01:26.51 | ericb | 2.4.18bf4 |
| 01:26.57 | ericb | 2.4.18bf24 sr |
| 01:27.02 | ericb | woody kernel |
| 01:27.09 | asg | ericb: woody install kernel |
| 01:27.21 | ericb | that's what I wanted to say |
| 01:27.23 | kevix | ericb, ok, never mind--- some probs with 2.6.[78]. |
| 01:27.32 | ericb | I tried 2.6 kernel but he doesn't like my computer |
| 01:27.38 | pearl | lol |
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| 01:27.48 | ericb | the screen hangs up after modep |
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| 01:27.51 | pearl | i compile 2.6.9 at this time |
| 01:28.40 | kevix | ericb, BACKUP soon, these messages dont usually lie. |
| 01:28.47 | asg | kevix: he is |
| 01:29.03 | cafuego | ericb: Yeah, you can replace the bastard with a 120GB drive (May I recomend the Western Digital 8MB cache models?) |
| 01:29.11 | ericb | lol |
| 01:29.28 | cafuego | And the 120GB drive now will cost less then what the 6GB cost you 6 years ago. |
| 01:29.30 | ericb | or I could keep it and put it in a small raid 5 |
| 01:29.36 | kevix | cafuego, but may with a newer kernel ... for the bigger HD's? |
| 01:29.46 | cafuego | ericb: Putting a broken drive in a raid array is not a smart move. |
| 01:29.56 | ericb | it's not broken yet... |
| 01:30.00 | ericb | still working fine... |
| 01:30.04 | ericb | exept thoses dmsg |
| 01:30.05 | ericb | lol |
| 01:30.07 | kevix | ericb, for now... |
| 01:30.13 | cafuego | kevix: No, but then again, running a bf kernel on a normal box isn't a good idea regardless. |
| 01:30.15 | ericb | yeah I know just kidding |
| 01:30.27 | ericb | I gonna buy a 40gb drive and it'll be just enough |
| 01:30.34 | cafuego | ericb: Those dmesg logs MEAN it's broken NOW |
| 01:30.53 | kevix | cafuego, true. since there is no longer even bootfloppies... |
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| 01:33.17 | Piru | I was lucky when my maxtor 60gb went tits up.. only 3 files lost, 2 of them debian package files |
| 01:33.17 | scarynetworkguy | kevix: What do you mean there are no longer bootfloppies? |
| 01:33.28 | findme | how do i format a new disk ? cfdisk ? |
| 01:33.55 | cafuego | findme: You martition with fdisk and run mkfs to create a filesystem. |
| 01:34.03 | cafuego | 'format' is what you do on windows. |
| 01:34.11 | ericb | cafuego> kevix: No, but then again, running a bf kernel on a normal box isn't a good idea regardless. <- what's wrong with the 2.4.18bf24 kernel ? |
| 01:34.12 | Piru | format is useless anyway |
| 01:35.20 | cafuego | ericb: the 'bf' means it's a kernel designed to support as many machines as possible for the install process. That means that 8after* install, you replace it with a 'real' kernel - one that's up to date (bf has root and dos bugs) and optimised for your cpu. |
| 01:35.29 | findme | cafuego, ok thanks |
| 01:36.24 | ericb | then I should apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.28-k7 I guess |
| 01:36.37 | Piru | nvz, http://www.nice-tits.org/ :) |
| 01:36.50 | kevix | scarynetworkguy, I read on debian-devel that they were removing the *.deb becasue they are no longer needed since we now have d-i |
| 01:36.56 | cafuego | ericb: if you have an athlon, yes. |
| 01:37.06 | ericb | or a duron |
| 01:37.07 | ericb | right ? |
| 01:37.09 | nvz | heh |
| 01:37.56 | cafuego | well, ye |
| 01:37.58 | cafuego | s |
| 01:38.05 | asg | nvz: chow fast, it'll be concrete in a few minutes |
| 01:38.41 | nvz | asg: yeah I found that out just moments earlier |
| 01:38.42 | kevix | ericb, you can get a general i386 kernel if you plan on moving the HD to another machine. or get one just for your processor. |
| 01:38.49 | asg | nvz: ooof |
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| 01:39.13 | cafuego | Or both |
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| 01:39.46 | kevix | cafuego, true, you can have mulitple kernel get up with your boot-loader. |
| 01:40.42 | ericb | think that's what I'm gonna do.. leave that kernel, remove X, put this drive in a p100mHz that's waiting for something to do and use it a dns and httpd/mysqld.. and setup a cron job to back it up via nfs to my desktop every night.. |
| 01:41.05 | kevix | Piru, love those birds! |
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| 01:41.37 | findme | cafuego, Thanks. w00t installed new disk 200GB in my debian :-) |
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| 01:41.55 | kevix | findme, what kernel did you use? |
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| 01:42.15 | cafuego | ericb: Use rsync rather then nfs. |
| 01:42.15 | ericb | I never succceeded to install a kernel.. I did a lot of things related to network, software developpment, but I never succeded to install a kernel.. each time I did I went back to linuxold because the new kernel wasn't booting.. |
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| 01:42.31 | spilo | guys.. in debian.. what is the file ot program that controlls what services or applications are started with system startup? |
| 01:42.32 | findme | kevix, 2.6.8 |
| 01:42.40 | asg | spilo: update-rc.d |
| 01:42.43 | ericb | cafuego or why not cvs ;) why rsync ? |
| 01:42.56 | ericb | cafuego ok nevermind |
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| 01:43.13 | spilo | update-rc.d is a file? where is it located? |
| 01:43.13 | ericb | it wont copy the file that didn't change right ? |
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| 01:43.37 | ericb | spilo : find / update-rc.d |
| 01:44.04 | ericb | or which update-rc.d |
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| 01:44.21 | fluke | spilo the runlevels and the list of "services" that are run is a complete/complex system of scripts and symbolic links. update-rc.d helps in changing the symbolic links to activate or deactivate starting a service at boot (check the manpage..) |
| 01:44.22 | ericb | or /usr/sbin/update-rc.d |
| 01:44.36 | comcor | I'm having trouble building a kernel module package.. I've got a server that has a commercial driver for which there exists a bcm5700 deb package, however I have to use make-kpkg to build it |
| 01:44.45 | comcor | what I don't want to do is build a new kernel |
| 01:44.55 | comcor | is there anyway to do this with the stock installed kernel? |
| 01:44.59 | spilo | thank youu guys |
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| 01:45.08 | kevix | ericb, http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 01:45.36 | cafuego | comcor: Yes. You install kernel-headersfFOO |
| 01:46.07 | comcor | hrm, it wasn't in the apt-cache, must be on cd #123123 :p |
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| 01:46.09 | comcor | damn |
| 01:46.51 | spilo | how do I use "find" so that it does not show all the stuff while it is searching? |
| 01:47.01 | findme | comcor, broadcom / |
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| 01:47.13 | kevix | comcor, checkout 'apt-cache show module-assistant' |
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| 01:47.18 | asg | spilo: it only shows you stuff that it found. Narrow your search |
| 01:47.23 | bob2 | spilo: um, all find does is pritn out stuff while it's searching |
| 01:47.28 | cafuego | spilo: find / -name foo > /tmp/found 2>/dev/null |
| 01:47.38 | cafuego | check /tmp/found when it's done |
| 01:47.50 | comcor | findme, yup |
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| 01:47.59 | jetscreamer | or |grep blah |
| 01:48.01 | findme | spilo, 0=input , 1=output 2=error. |
| 01:48.02 | comcor | kevix, will do.. I'm out of the machine room right now burning more deb cds :) |
| 01:48.25 | pearl | so, gn8 |
| 01:48.27 | spilo | what are you talking about findme? |
| 01:48.42 | cafuego | spilo: We fear for your life. |
| 01:48.45 | g3r4rd0 | did anyone had a slow, very slow boot when upgrading kernel???? |
| 01:48.47 | asg | spilo: file descriptors but that's not important right now |
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| 01:48.53 | Dabian | ok |
| 01:49.04 | tvn | does the debian stock 2.6 kernel has preemption built in ? |
| 01:49.16 | Dabian | tvn: What kinda question is that? |
| 01:49.16 | cafuego | tvn: Why don't you check its config file? |
| 01:49.23 | findme | spilo, find . -name "abc" > /tmp/found 2>/dev/null ;# The 2 here represents error. |
| 01:49.40 | findme | spilo, stderr |
| 01:50.12 | cafuego | warning: long long unsigned int format, u_int64_t arg |
| 01:50.13 | spilo | how come the find thing in gnome does not find anything? |
| 01:50.15 | cafuego | muaha |
| 01:50.21 | tvn | cafuego: ah I see, never thought of check its config |
| 01:50.30 | Dabian | cafuego: s/intel/adm/g ? |
| 01:50.34 | Dabian | amd, even. |
| 01:50.34 | cafuego | spilo: generally 1) the thing you're looking for doesn't exist or 2) user error |
| 01:50.51 | cafuego | Dabian: eh? |
| 01:51.00 | asg | cafuego: or 3) the gnome find thingy sucks balls |
| 01:51.14 | fluke | spilo: find is case sensitive (well, the filesystem is). also, if you didn't specify so-called "wildcards" it won't match much.. (it'd look for *exact* filenames..) |
| 01:51.20 | Dabian | cafuego: u_int64 sounds like a 64-bit processor to me .. isn't words usually 32-bit on a 32-bit computer, and 64 on a 64-bit? |
| 01:51.32 | cafuego | Dabian: Yah, Athlon64 box |
| 01:51.37 | Dabian | :) |
| 01:51.53 | spilo | I found 2 updatercs.. one in usr/sbin other in usr/share/sysvinit |
| 01:51.53 | jetscreamer | hey isn't there some way to get a 4g file on fat32? like some different version of fat32 or something? |
| 01:52.06 | spilo | which one should I edit? |
| 01:52.19 | caphuso | my calculator can use a wordsize of 64 too... |
| 01:52.25 | asg | spilo: man update-rc.d (you don't edit it) |
| 01:53.04 | fluke | spilo this is a command line utility that is used to enable or disable stuff. check the man page for details |
| 01:53.14 | cafuego | !qotd109 |
| 01:53.14 | dpkg | <jetscreamer> hey isn't there some way to get a 4g file on fat32? like some different version of fat32 or something? |
| 01:53.32 | asg | cafuego: his go to 11? |
| 01:53.48 | spilo | thanks guys |
| 01:53.55 | rich_ | jetscreamer I don't think it is allowed. |
| 01:54.17 | Dabian | I had a question. |
| 01:54.20 | jetscreamer | dpkg, quotd109 is also <yes i think i read that> |
| 01:54.20 | dpkg | jetscreamer: okay |
| 01:54.35 | asg | !forget quotd109 |
| 01:54.35 | dpkg | i forgot quotd109, asg |
| 01:54.42 | kevix | jetscreamer, fat32 has a limit of 4GB/file |
| 01:54.49 | jetscreamer | i think it's 2gb |
| 01:55.00 | comcor | this is frustrating |
| 01:55.02 | cafuego | jetscreamer: maybe the different FAT32 type you refer to is NTFS? |
| 01:55.06 | Dabian | !tell asg about asgh |
| 01:55.14 | comcor | I don't understand why kernel-2.4.18 headers are not in the base distribution |
| 01:55.22 | spilo | what video and music players are you guys using? |
| 01:55.31 | mwilson | comcor: Who says they're not? |
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| 01:55.36 | kevix | jetscreamer, checkthis out: http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/ArticleID/38803/38803.html |
| 01:55.37 | jetscreamer | no, i think i read about some diff. kind of fat32.. can't swear, i could be confused, happens alot eh |
| 01:55.41 | cafuego | spilo: Bang & Olufsen DVD-1 |
| 01:55.42 | spilo | I got realplayer downloaded but it does not show videos.. mp3 is fine though |
| 01:55.43 | rich_ | I mean I dont think it is the will of the developers for you to have files bigger than that, on their filesystem. |
| 01:55.52 | comcor | mwilson, no kernel-headers package for it in cd 1, 2, or 5 |
| 01:55.54 | comcor | or 3 |
| 01:55.57 | jetscreamer | coulda been the upgrade to the 2g limit though i guess |
| 01:56.41 | mwilson | comcor: If you say so. |
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| 01:56.52 | comcor | mwilson, apt-cache search kernel | grep headers says so |
| 01:56.52 | jetscreamer | ahh partition size is what i read |
| 01:56.53 | comcor | I'm not a moron |
| 01:57.00 | Dabian | comcor: Why not? |
| 01:57.06 | jetscreamer | thanks kevix |
| 01:57.16 | comcor | Dabian, I've no idea |
| 01:57.17 | kevix | jetscreamer, 'justgoogleit'! |
| 01:57.34 | comcor | I'm using the cds from 30r2 |
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| 01:57.44 | Compound-4 | ,so leute,ich zische ab |
| 01:57.46 | XhyldazhK | Hi all |
| 01:57.55 | spilo | has any of you guys used hotway and hotsmtpd with evolution? |
| 01:57.55 | Compound-4 | n8i all |
| 01:58.07 | kevix | Compound-4, sprekien ze english? |
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| 01:58.09 | jetscreamer | ne-hi? |
| 01:58.10 | mwilson | Oh, here we go AGAIN. |
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| 01:58.20 | jetscreamer | Compound-4, nee-how |
| 01:58.35 | XhyldazhK | Can anyone please give me a copy of his sources.list ? |
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| 01:58.42 | asg | XhyldazhK: apt-setup |
| 01:58.47 | Compound-4 | yes,my english is not good |
| 01:58.47 | cafuego | XhyldazhK: Yes, but it will be useless to you. |
| 01:59.03 | cafuego | Compound-4: That's no reason for speaking bloody german on an english channel. |
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| 01:59.05 | kevix | XhyldazhK, whos? |
| 01:59.19 | XhyldazhK | asg, I'm on ubuntu and i want to add debian repositories too |
| 01:59.26 | cafuego | XhyldazhK: #ubuntu |
| 01:59.41 | asg | XhyldazhK: /msg dpkg sources.list (you get to keep any borken bits that may result.) |
| 01:59.43 | jetscreamer | Compound-4, they speak a lot of german on #kanotix if you don't get the help you want here |
| 01:59.46 | mwilson | XhyldazhK: Why would you want to do something stupid like that? |
| 02:00.07 | XhyldazhK | mwilson, whi is that stupid? |
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| 02:00.18 | XhyldazhK | becuase i want to have lastest games |
| 02:00.21 | SCOUnix | hi |
| 02:00.25 | jetscreamer | latest games? |
| 02:00.28 | cafuego | XhyldazhK: Coz debian packages are made for Debian. Not for Ubuntu. |
| 02:00.34 | SCOUnix | ubuntu sucks |
| 02:00.36 | jetscreamer | there are no latest games on debian |
| 02:00.44 | SCOUnix | real men PAY for SCO LICENSES |
| 02:00.44 | jetscreamer | sco sucks more though eh |
| 02:00.49 | jetscreamer | hell yeah |
| 02:00.49 | asg | SCOUnix: I have one, fuck off |
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| 02:00.51 | cafuego | jetscreamer: There are too, the Sid version of nethack kicks ass. |
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| 02:01.01 | Compound-4 | i giff in my xchat this "ein" /allchan say gn8i .This say in all channel gn8i |
| 02:01.08 | caphuso | sunday, bloody sunday |
| 02:01.20 | jetscreamer | Compound-4, it's like good night |
| 02:01.29 | Compound-4 | thx |
| 02:01.40 | asg | caphuso: do we get free ipods today? |
| 02:01.44 | kevix | cafuego, 'falconseye' rxs? |
| 02:02.11 | cafuego | Yes, free iPods for anyone who can poke their own eyes out with their left testicle. |
| 02:02.12 | jetscreamer | chromium and starfighter are the only games i've liked... i'll have to try the recent nethack though |
| 02:02.12 | kevix | caphuso, you-too? |
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| 02:02.22 | caphuso | kevix: me three |
| 02:02.29 | comcor | okay, if anyone could help me save some time and tell me what cd (of 30r2) kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4 is, I would *REALLY* appreciate it |
| 02:02.38 | caphuso | asg: ipods? |
| 02:02.45 | jetscreamer | what cd, comcor? |
| 02:02.46 | cafuego | !tell comcor about real kernel |
| 02:02.50 | caphuso | asg: useless weapons against trolls... |
| 02:02.53 | asg | caphuso: the U2, black and red special edition, etc. |
| 02:02.58 | mwilson | comcor: Why in the world would what CD it's on matter? |
| 02:03.02 | jetscreamer | you mean where on the cd? |
| 02:03.16 | comcor | cafuego, that's what I'm trying to do - I need the network interface driver installed before I can finish installing for chrissakes |
| 02:03.18 | jetscreamer | comcor, you would set up your cd as a source |
| 02:03.26 | jetscreamer | ahhh |
| 02:03.26 | comcor | mwilson, because I have to download them |
| 02:03.31 | comcor | jetscreamer, they are apt-cdrom add |
| 02:03.40 | resiak | jetscreamer: (|-------*----| <-- There?) |
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| 02:03.47 | XhyldazhK | thanx all |
| 02:03.48 | mwilson | comcor: And you would do something so silly as downloading the CD image because...? |
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| 02:04.00 | cafuego | comcor: Then get the 2.4.18 kernel headers and pass the correct params to make-kpkg when building the module. |
| 02:04.03 | jetscreamer | lol@resiak |
| 02:04.06 | cafuego | comcor: it's *really* not hard |
| 02:04.12 | comcor | mwilson, because I don't have a network connection in the server yet |
| 02:04.19 | comcor | that's why I need the bloody headers |
| 02:04.24 | jetscreamer | comcor, which nic |
| 02:04.28 | cafuego | I just told you which ones to get. |
| 02:04.31 | comcor | bmc5700 |
| 02:04.31 | mwilson | What does that have to do with downloading an entire CD? |
| 02:04.52 | jetscreamer | comcor, d-i wan't an option eh |
| 02:05.05 | jetscreamer | s/wan't/wasn't/ |
| 02:05.16 | kevix | comcor, get it here 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.18-i386bf/kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4_2.4.18-5woody8_i386.deb' |
| 02:06.02 | jetscreamer | just use d-i unless it's not an option. start over. |
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| 02:06.51 | kevix | jetscreamer, if it is a running system, reinstalling may not be an option. |
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| 02:07.12 | Reveal | really really really need some help, anyone got expirience on winbind and pam_mount ? |
| 02:07.30 | Dabian | kevix: Its always an option, but it might not be feasable. |
| 02:07.33 | asg | Reveal: anyone in #samba? |
| 02:07.33 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status if it is an option |
| 02:07.45 | comcor | its been a long day |
| 02:07.49 | jetscreamer | cd |
| 02:07.56 | findme | comcor, usb pen |
| 02:08.19 | comcor | heh... its on the x-mas list |
| 02:08.39 | jetscreamer | might i suggest d-i then :) |
| 02:08.44 | Reveal | asg: not very helpfull there :( |
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| 02:10.20 | comcor | trying... |
| 02:13.34 | comcor | jetscreamer, no such luck.. just says "Starting the Dialog UI" and exits quietly |
| 02:14.15 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 02:14.34 | jetscreamer | you downloaded burnt and started to install that quick? |
| 02:14.58 | Dabian | I forgot my question. |
| 02:15.07 | Dabian | cafuego: Do you play games? |
| 02:15.25 | jetscreamer | comcor, you are typing about debian-installer eh |
| 02:15.56 | Dabian | cafuego: I wonder if eg. enemy territory will run in GNU/Linux, on a 64-bit AMD; if you're running in 64-bit-mode? |
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| 02:16.42 | jetscreamer | let me ask |
| 02:17.01 | Reveal | but if anyone can help me that would be great, the problem is, my username for logging onto a domain is domainname+username and I'm stuck with that in the config of pam_mount because of that username I can't get it to automount the correct shares (I need only the username without the DOMAINNAME+) :( |
| 02:17.01 | vguerra | hi all! |
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| 02:17.27 | jetscreamer | i've asked your question in the appropriate channels |
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| 02:17.53 | vguerra | im having problems updating from 386 kernel.. to 686 kernel .. but when i boot with my 686 kernel it gets so slow |
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| 02:18.00 | Dabian | !tell Reveal about ask |
| 02:18.31 | FieldySnuts | @test |
| 02:19.01 | Reveal | eh whats wrong Dabian ? |
| 02:19.11 | Dabian | Reveal: I cannot help you. I used winbind once, but its long ago, and I don't remember how to use it. |
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| 02:19.47 | Reveal | well winbind is working perfectly .. problem lies more or less in pam_mount's config |
| 02:20.24 | Dabian | Reveal: if not pam is set up probably, winbind cannot operate properly, IIRC. Your milage may vary though. |
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| 02:21.32 | zenlunatic | whats a good whois site |
| 02:22.01 | asuffield | what the hell is a 'whois site'? |
| 02:22.11 | Reveal | Dabian: I've no problems logging in or anything .. problem lies in the mounting pam_mount only takes one variable that's & (for username) and the username is in this case wrong .... |
| 02:22.22 | Reveal | ZenithDK, internic ? |
| 02:22.29 | Reveal | or enom.com |
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| 02:23.23 | Dabian | Reveal: I don't understand that, but thats probably ok, since I guess someone else will have to help you anyhow. Have you tried #samba or #pam, btw.? |
| 02:23.33 | asg | Reveal: you could hack the C code in the pam module to strip the erroneous data |
| 02:23.53 | Reveal | tried samba ... didn't try pam |
| 02:24.00 | Dabian | ok |
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| 02:24.17 | Dabian | Just an idea, I don't even know if anyone populate that forum, Reveal :) |
| 02:24.19 | Reveal | but pam is not that usefull no users ;) |
| 02:24.23 | Dabian | ok :/ |
| 02:24.43 | Dabian | Maybe another ircnetwork? |
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| 02:24.51 | glick | hi all |
| 02:25.25 | Reveal | asg there must be a easier way, it's not a strange thing I want to accomplish |
| 02:25.31 | glick | hey do you think that open source solaris will really bypass linux as the most popular OS? |
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| 02:25.46 | glick | some say it would be the death of linux |
| 02:25.54 | mwilson | glick: Hey, do you think anyone actually cares? |
| 02:25.55 | asg | Reveal: the original design for pam_mount probably didn't take into account domainname+username as a possible input value |
| 02:26.04 | mrwill | glick: oh sure, like it not being open source is the only reason we aren't all using it. |
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| 02:26.11 | mwilson | glick: You don't ever actually have an original thought, do you? |
| 02:26.51 | comcor | Hey, thanks for all of your help - a very tired analyst appreciates it |
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| 02:27.16 | Reveal | asg: I guess so :( |
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| 02:27.54 | asg | Reveal: it should be relatively simple to hack it for your own needs, slightly more complex to generally hack it as a feature. |
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| 02:28.38 | Reveal | asg: I'm not that good at programming :( |
| 02:28.52 | glick | why is Novell so worried then that Sun might open source solaris, they are trying to stop SUN |
| 02:28.54 | asg | Reveal: now's a good time to learn |
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| 02:31.07 | asg | glick: ask on #novell |
| 02:31.20 | helix | glick: that's kind of off topic |
| 02:31.22 | stevo | hey can someone tell me how to change the window manager? |
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| 02:31.34 | stevo | i booted overclockix and it wont boot the default kde |
| 02:31.44 | helix | !overclockix |
| 02:31.44 | asg | stevo: it depends on how you generally start X. ~/.xsession is often a good place. |
| 02:31.51 | helix | wtf is overclockix? |
| 02:31.56 | mwilson | wtf is "overclockix"? |
| 02:32.01 | asg | helix: debian for ricer wannabees |
| 02:32.04 | stevo | its basically knoppix |
| 02:32.10 | helix | oh my effin god |
| 02:32.15 | mwilson | stevo: Ah, so it's crap, then. |
| 02:32.29 | stevo | its ok i guess |
| 02:33.04 | stevo | what do i have to put in .xsession? |
| 02:33.05 | cafuego | So it's NOT DEBIAN, is what you're saying? |
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| 02:33.14 | helix | ok, wolves, back up |
| 02:33.34 | holycow | rofl |
| 02:33.36 | asg | stevo: /usr/bin/startkde |
| 02:33.38 | stevo | well when i boot it kde says debian when it starts up |
| 02:33.49 | helix | not this argument |
| 02:33.57 | cafuego | stevo: Well what is it, Debian or Overclockix. it can't be both. |
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| 02:34.04 | mwilson | Does anyone ever USE these craptastic desktops they create, or is it just for lame-ass screenshots? |
| 02:34.12 | cafuego | !nondeb Helix |
| 02:34.12 | dpkg | Go to channel #Helix for help with Helix. If Helix were Debian, it would be called Debian and not Helix. |
| 02:34.22 | helix | hey dude |
| 02:34.26 | helix | I totally have my own distro |
| 02:34.38 | asg | mwilson: who knows |
| 02:34.39 | cafuego | helix: You wish. You're a mediocre mediaplayer. |
| 02:34.40 | helix | for "forensics" or something |
| 02:34.42 | stevo | its overclockix but its based on debian. its just this wierd distro that i never even heard of until now, but i figured it would be a lot like debian |
| 02:34.43 | helix | no way |
| 02:35.02 | cafuego | !tell stevo -about essentially debian |
| 02:35.02 | helix | cafuego: http://www.e-fense.com/helix/ |
| 02:35.11 | holycow | helix is slooooooooooooooooooooooooooow |
| 02:35.13 | cafuego | helix: Yeah, I;'ve heard of it. |
| 02:35.14 | stevo | are you talking about phlak? |
| 02:35.18 | holycow | needs a few more revisions |
| 02:35.23 | holycow | and more apps |
| 02:35.31 | cafuego | helix: You lack apps and revisions. |
| 02:35.37 | spoopin | mwilson: craptastic - that's my new favorite word. Thank you. |
| 02:35.37 | holycow | >_> |
| 02:35.41 | helix | I lack a lot of things |
| 02:36.10 | helix | slaves? |
| 02:36.20 | mwilson | You'd have to feed them. |
| 02:36.22 | cafuego | helix: apps and revisions. |
| 02:36.40 | holycow | :) |
| 02:36.47 | cafuego | stevo: Anyway, ask for help on #overclockix or #knoppix. Not here. |
| 02:36.50 | helix | I don't need "lubbin" |
| 02:36.53 | Dabian | !tell neo321 about root |
| 02:36.56 | helix | I need someone to cook for me |
| 02:37.04 | holycow | lol well then |
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| 02:37.14 | mwilson | You're not the stereotypical girl, then? |
| 02:37.28 | cafuego | mwilson: I like to think I'm not. |
| 02:37.37 | helix | mwilson: what do you mean? that I can't cook? |
| 02:37.40 | holycow | monorypical mebbe? |
| 02:37.43 | mrwill | is anybody in this channel stereotypical? |
| 02:37.44 | holycow | *badum* *pshhh* |
| 02:37.50 | holycow | thanku thanku, i'm here all week |
| 02:37.59 | Dabian | mrwill: Yes, I am. |
| 02:38.02 | jetscreamer | yes, mwilson is the stereotypical badguy |
| 02:38.11 | holycow | ehe |
| 02:38.11 | jetscreamer | he even has an evil laugh |
| 02:38.29 | kaplanfx | is the a font tutorial anywhere that is up to date? |
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| 02:38.50 | mwilson | Does there need to be one? It's not like fonts are particularly hard. |
| 02:38.51 | kaplanfx | I found a bunch but they are all from 2000 and 2001 |
| 02:38.53 | jetscreamer | i think the fontdeuglification how-to was up for review, maybe it got updated |
| 02:39.11 | kaplanfx | mwilson: yeah, there does need to be one |
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| 02:39.22 | kaplanfx | jetscreamer: where is that? |
| 02:39.25 | mwilson | Get writing, then. |
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| 02:39.30 | kaplanfx | dpkg: tell me about fonts jackass |
| 02:39.36 | kaplanfx | dpkg: tell me about fonts |
| 02:39.38 | jetscreamer | kaplanfx, it was on tldp.org |
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| 02:39.52 | findme | !jack ass |
| 02:39.58 | Demosthenes | any cfengine users here? |
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| 02:40.34 | asg | Demosthenes: one of those things that looks great on paper but never managed to materialize on in my TODO.txt |
| 02:40.49 | asg | s/on in/in/ |
| 02:40.51 | kaplanfx | mwilson: how am I supposed to write a font tutorial when I need one myself? maybe after I figure it out... |
| 02:40.55 | bjron | so, I've got a fairly simple makefile, but when I run make it tells me |
| 02:40.59 | asg | kaplanfx: /msg dpkg font guide |
| 02:41.00 | bjron | "make: g++: Command not found" |
| 02:41.01 | Dabian | asg: apt-get install hello |
| 02:41.07 | Dabian | bjron: lol. |
| 02:41.21 | asg | Dabian: dpkg -P goodbye |
| 02:41.29 | Dabian | -P? |
| 02:41.30 | bjron | I can add CXX=g++-3.2 |
| 02:41.31 | mwilson | bjron: Don't you think that, just MAYBE, actually installing a compiler before you try to use it might be a good idea? |
| 02:41.31 | kaplanfx | asg, jetscreamer: thanks |
| 02:41.34 | helix | !b-e bjron |
| 02:41.35 | dpkg | bjron: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
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| 02:41.44 | bjron | and that'll build stuff |
| 02:42.12 | Dabian | mwilson: Hehe .. you spoil the fun by telling him that :-P |
| 02:42.13 | bjron | ah |
| 02:42.21 | bjron | I'll try that |
| 02:42.22 | bjron | :) |
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| 02:42.28 | mwilson | You do that. |
| 02:42.28 | Dabian | :) |
| 02:42.33 | mwilson | <sigh> |
| 02:42.58 | bjron | new there must be some silly package I was missing, but couldn't figure out what since it did appear that I had a compiler installed :p |
| 02:43.03 | helix | mwilson: that was unnecessary |
| 02:43.17 | Demosthenes | asg: well, i'm working with it right now, just looking for other debian admins in the same boat. |
| 02:43.17 | ugly | I heard mwilson runs Linspire |
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| 02:43.27 | ugly | he likes the convenience of running everything as root |
| 02:43.41 | mwilson | What was? |
| 02:43.42 | holycow | *gasp* open office is ported to the arm processor, yipee now i can wait 2 weeks for oo.o to boot on my ipaq |
| 02:43.42 | holycow | yey |
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| 02:43.52 | helix | I wish I could drain the testosterone out of all of youy |
| 02:43.57 | helix | you, rather |
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| 02:44.03 | mwilson | And do what with it, once you had it? |
| 02:44.11 | mwilson | That'd be a powerful weapon. :) |
| 02:44.18 | helix | drown you in it |
| 02:44.22 | ugly | geek testosterone is powerful? |
| 02:44.23 | ugly | doubtful |
| 02:44.24 | holycow | bottle it, sell it back to us |
| 02:44.25 | Demosthenes | helix: you could just purchase herbal viagra ;] |
| 02:44.25 | holycow | like a good capitalist helix that she is |
| 02:44.27 | kaplanfx | bjron: you need a compiler? apt-get install g77 |
| 02:44.34 | holycow | ugly, hahaha :) |
| 02:44.38 | mwilson | Drown just me? |
| 02:44.46 | helix | no, all of you that act like cocks in here |
| 02:44.52 | bjron | kaplanfx: I think I may have things under control now : |
| 02:44.56 | ugly | some of us like the cock |
| 02:44.58 | cafuego | meeeh |
| 02:44.58 | ugly | like fooz and I |
| 02:45.00 | ugly | mmm cock |
| 02:45.02 | ugly | and cafuego |
| 02:45.13 | cafuego | ugly: Specifically NOT yours, though. |
| 02:45.16 | holycow | well, we are .... erm ... |
| 02:45.17 | holycow | nm |
| 02:45.25 | holycow | if you said we act like pussies, THEN i'd be worried |
| 02:45.25 | ugly | as long as you let me at yours |
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| 02:45.57 | cafuego | I don't want mine to catch uglies |
| 02:46.46 | Demosthenes | mwilson: good idea ;] |
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| 02:47.09 | Demosthenes | its a shame to find #debian reduced to such base language. |
| 02:47.22 | cafuego | Demosthenes: fuckin' a |
| 02:47.37 | Dabian | bjron: What're you compiling? |
| 02:47.44 | Demosthenes | cafuego: party on dude |
| 02:48.13 | bjron | Dabian: game I'm writing, but had a managed makefile project in eclips on my other comp |
| 02:48.14 | Demosthenes | dudette? |
| 02:48.17 | jetscreamer | hey .... 101110001 |
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| 02:48.25 | jetscreamer | and 1001 001 |
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| 02:48.43 | Dabian | bjron: I heard that eclipse works better with ant, but I don't know if that only goes for Java. |
| 02:48.58 | Dabian | I guess thats the case, though. |
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| 02:49.08 | sparc | can i install woody with the new sarge installer? |
| 02:49.09 | sparc | :) |
| 02:49.16 | Dabian | sparc: Whats a mortified hampster? |
| 02:49.19 | jetscreamer | sparc, i heard no, but that was a while ago |
| 02:49.20 | sparc | hahahah |
| 02:49.27 | bjron | Dabian: yea, I used ant with it a bit last year, but the C++ dev plugin seems to work well w/ managed makefiles |
| 02:49.29 | asg | sparc: you could with earlier versions, I don't know if the newer rcs allow it anymore. |
| 02:49.45 | holycow | sparc, it lets you edit the sources.list manually so yes i presume |
| 02:49.55 | sparc | that would be nice, i have a nice 1u idm i want to install woody on |
| 02:49.58 | Dabian | bjron: OK .. are you using the debian eclipse package, and if yes, which distribution of debian? |
| 02:49.58 | bjron | problem is now I wanted to build it on my debian box and figured I might as well provide a makefile for ppl |
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| 02:50.25 | bjron | Dabian: installing build-essential really helped things I think :) |
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| 02:50.54 | Dabian | bjron: Duh .. that might help me also .. why doesn't eclipse depend on that? |
| 02:51.05 | bjron | except now I'm getting an interesting compile error about an uninitialized const member :p |
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| 02:51.36 | Dabian | bjron: Could be an error in the code, though. :-P |
| 02:51.41 | bjron | actually not building with eclips on this box anyway so. . |
| 02:51.43 | Dabian | ;.-) |
| 02:52.07 | bjron | really I should be doing my homework though, if I can't get this to work in a few min |
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| 02:53.55 | Dabian | Hmm .. is eclipse taken out of debian now? |
| 02:53.59 | ho1ywind | ls |
| 02:54.04 | bjron | haha, my uninitialized const I didn't even use anywhere :P |
| 02:54.17 | Dabian | apt-cache search eclipse doesn't yield anything relevant (well, swt, but thats about it) |
| 02:54.42 | asg | Dabian: what debian version are you running? |
| 02:54.44 | dondelelcaro | Dabian: nothing Build-Depends: on build-essential |
| 02:54.53 | Dabian | asg : sarge. |
| 02:54.58 | bjron | crap, still getting : undefined reference to `atexit' . |
| 02:55.09 | Danar | can someone help me with a connection prob? |
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| 02:55.21 | Dabian | dondelelcaro: THat I didn't understand. |
| 02:55.52 | Danar | ifconfig shows the ip address, broadcast address & netmask to be set correctly, but i can't connect to the net, or even my router |
| 02:55.59 | asg | Dabian: well, it's either in contrib or removed for some reason |
| 02:56.08 | Dabian | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.10 | Dabian | c |
| 02:56.15 | bjron | ok, anyone got any hints for why I would be getting undefined references to 'atext' and '__dso_handle' when trying to link my program? |
| 02:56.20 | dondelelcaro | Dabian: every package requires build-essential in order to build. Therefore, it's never included in the Build-Dep: line, because all of the package building tools know to have it installed already. |
| 02:56.26 | asg | Dabian: dfsg compliant code that relies on non-free |
| 02:56.47 | Dabian | ahh |
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| 02:56.57 | dondelelcaro | !info eclipse-platform |
| 02:57.10 | dpkg | eclipse-platform: (Eclipse platform without plug-ins to develop any language), section contrib/devel, is optional. Version: 2.1.3-4 (sid), Packaged size: 26120 kB, Installed size: 33425 kB |
| 02:57.11 | spoopin | Danar: what does route tell you? |
| 02:57.27 | Dabian | sid? |
| 02:57.30 | Dabian | Sid only? |
| 02:57.34 | Danar | route gives my ip, and the ip of my router |
| 02:57.38 | bjron | dondelelcaro: why no dependancy on build-essential for binutils or somethig like that? |
| 02:57.41 | Danar | i don't recall the exact output |
| 02:57.47 | Dabian | !contrib |
| 02:57.47 | dpkg | contrib is, like, debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free packages |
| 02:57.55 | dondelelcaro | Dabian: it's probably in sarge as well. |
| 02:57.58 | dondelelcaro | !+info eclipse-platform sarge |
| 02:58.00 | dpkg | Package 'eclipse-platform' does not exist. |
| 02:58.12 | asg | !why is eclipse-platform not in testing |
| 02:58.13 | dpkg | eclipse-platform is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=eclipse-platform |
| 02:58.17 | Dabian | dondelelcaro: Do I need to add lines to apt-source in order to gain contrib? |
| 02:58.17 | asg | Dabian: ^^^^ |
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| 02:58.30 | Dabian | asg : How did you know? |
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| 02:58.38 | asg | Dabian: it's a standard factoid |
| 02:58.46 | jetscreamer | Dabian, just add contrib non-free after main |
| 02:58.48 | Dabian | !tell TimFreeman about root |
| 02:58.56 | Danar | i even disabled iptables |
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| 02:59.03 | dondelelcaro | Dabian: contrib is included in the default sources.list line. |
| 02:59.11 | Dabian | ok |
| 02:59.24 | dondelelcaro | bjron: it's the same reason why nothing depends on packages that are Essential: Yes |
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| 02:59.31 | Danar | but i can get online with my livecd |
| 02:59.46 | Danar | so something is broken |
| 02:59.48 | Dabian | !factinfo why is eclipse-platform not in testing |
| 02:59.48 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as why is eclipse-platform not in testing, Dabian |
| 03:00.08 | asg | Danar: check that there isn't a duplex mismatch between your nic and your switch/hub (/msg dpkg faq (networking section) for details) |
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| 03:00.14 | jetscreamer | dondelelcaro, it is? i would have thought not. i don't remember either way though. |
| 03:00.25 | dondelelcaro | bjron: certian well defined packages are expected to be on any Debian system. Because they are expected to be there already (and the tools that are used to do this sort of thing requires it) no one bothers to Depends: on them |
| 03:00.58 | Dabian | The reasons are not good |
| 03:01.10 | asg | Dabian: /msg dpkg factinfo cmd: why is (.*?) not in testing |
| 03:01.17 | Dabian | asg: I don't buy those reasons .. there could be a dummy java-package, |
| 03:01.32 | Dabian | asg: In fact, I think there is. |
| 03:01.37 | asg | Dabian: could be, the reason is often due to RC bugs |
| 03:01.40 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: there are versioned dependencies on Essential: Yes packages... but unversioned dependencies are superfluous. |
| 03:01.51 | Dabian | Most morons like me install the sun's java anyhow. |
| 03:02.01 | Danar | might i point out that hot pink on white is very garish (http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/) |
| 03:02.02 | bjron | oh well, I just was kinda surprised I somehow ended up w/ g++-3.2, but no g++ sym link |
| 03:02.07 | jetscreamer | damn, i'm a moron like you too |
| 03:02.09 | Dabian | Danar: Nope. |
| 03:02.10 | asg | Dabian: I always do, when I have to, in /usr/local where it belongs |
| 03:02.23 | Dabian | asg: Exkactly! |
| 03:02.29 | Danar | well, it hurts my eyes |
| 03:02.30 | NeoLaptop | i have a question. i'm used to slackware-current, but i was wanting to try debian due to the sheer multitude of packages available on debian. i was having a hard time deciding which debian to use, however. i prefer stable (stable enough) but i like being up to date with things. which should i use then? sarge or sid? |
| 03:02.44 | rob|lt | sarge |
| 03:02.45 | Dabian | Danar: I was just kidding you some. |
| 03:02.45 | asg | NeoLaptop: go with sarge |
| 03:03.07 | rob|lt | NeoLaptop, use sarge with the new installer |
| 03:03.09 | asg | NeoLaptop: it will be stable soonishly |
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| 03:03.14 | Dabian | asg: Hehe .. they used to say "Go with peace" .. now its "Go with Sarge" ;-) |
| 03:03.20 | wpostma_ | NeoLaptop, STABLe/UNSTABLE/TESTING isn't as simple as you think. Generally, go with SARGE. (aka TESTING) |
| 03:03.21 | NeoLaptop | also, i'm wanting a graphical system, and i was told there's an apt-get command for that after the installation is successful. i was told that sarge ftp installer doesn't automatically install a graphical system. what should i do? |
| 03:03.21 | jetscreamer | you;ll probably wind up on sid though NeoLaptop , eventually |
| 03:03.46 | asg | Dabian: ;) |
| 03:03.49 | dondelelcaro | bjron: the g++ symlink is provided by g++-3.3, not 3.2 |
| 03:03.55 | rob|lt | apt-get your prefered window manager, and it will pull in X11 |
| 03:04.03 | jetscreamer | NeoLaptop, it will install x and kde and gnome if you tell it to with the install desktop option that youou will see on the first reboot after installing (tasksel) |
| 03:04.04 | NeoLaptop | what is sid? isn't it just the most current stable version of every program? like if xchat 2.0.10 was the latest stable, we'd have that, and then when 2.4.0 xchat came out, we'd get that, right? |
| 03:04.18 | NeoLaptop | jetscreamer, thanks |
| 03:04.20 | jetscreamer | stable never changes |
| 03:04.20 | asg | !sid |
| 03:04.21 | dpkg | i heard sid is the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. |
| 03:04.22 | asg | NeoLaptop: ^^^ |
| 03:04.23 | Dabian | NeoLaptop: No. |
| 03:04.27 | jetscreamer | only security updates |
| 03:04.27 | mwilson | NeoLaptop: hardly. |
| 03:04.34 | dondelelcaro | bjron: rrr... by g++, not g++-3.2 or g++-3.3 |
| 03:04.36 | mrwill | NeoLaptop: I think you are thinking of a different 'stable' than what 'debian stable' means. |
| 03:04.45 | bjron | dondelelcaro: I see, well it's there now anyway :) . . too bad I've got no clue about these link errors :( |
| 03:04.49 | NeoLaptop | !sid |
| 03:04.49 | dpkg | rumour has it, sid is the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. |
| 03:04.53 | NeoLaptop | er |
| 03:04.56 | NeoLaptop | !unstable |
| 03:04.56 | dpkg | it has been said that unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. See testing. see sid |
| 03:04.59 | bjron | seems they were unrealated |
| 03:05.12 | mrwill | NeoLaptop: knock it off, msg the bot privately if you want to see that happen all day. |
| 03:05.17 | dondelelcaro | bjron: uh, you do have g++-3.3, right? |
| 03:05.20 | jetscreamer | however, sid doesn't break that much anymore. but it does break. |
| 03:05.28 | Dabian | !newspeak |
| 03:05.29 | dondelelcaro | heh. "anymore" |
| 03:05.33 | NeoLaptop | mrwill, sorry |
| 03:05.37 | mwilson | It doesn't? |
| 03:05.38 | jetscreamer | your box still works, just the upgrade doesn't. |
| 03:05.45 | pole | i'm trying to figure out why my nfs partition wont mount... where does nfs-user-server report debugging info to? |
| 03:05.47 | bjron | dondelelcaro: g++ symlink points to 3.3 yes |
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| 03:05.49 | Dabian | ok .. .sleep I will |
| 03:05.59 | dondelelcaro | bjron: hrm... paste the linker errors into #flood |
| 03:06.05 | mwilson | pole: There's no such thing as a "nfs partition". |
| 03:06.10 | Deep6 | anyone know how to clone a partion table onto an identical disk....something with du ? |
| 03:06.17 | asg | jetscreamer: there will be horrid borkage in the future, you can count on it. |
| 03:06.18 | pole | mwilson, well, my nfs "export" then |
| 03:06.21 | NeoLaptop | mrwill, so debian stable means what as opposed to what projects consider stable? as in debian does a whole lot more testing than they do? |
| 03:06.26 | mwilson | Deep6: man sfdisk |
| 03:06.27 | asg | Deep6: man dd |
| 03:06.43 | mrwill | NeoLaptop: debian just releases less often, and doesn't keep changing what is in the stable release. |
| 03:06.49 | Deep6 | mwilson, I tried sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk /dev/hdb |
| 03:06.53 | Deep6 | but it didn't work |
| 03:06.58 | jetscreamer | asg, all i know is i've never seen anything that kept my box from functioning except 2.2kernel - 2.4 |
| 03:07.03 | jetscreamer | and libc6 |
| 03:07.07 | Deep6 | asg sorry yeah I meant dd |
| 03:07.11 | bjron | done |
| 03:07.13 | asg | jetscreamer: /msg dpkg faq (search for horrid bugs) |
| 03:07.20 | asg | jetscreamer: and there have been some good ones |
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| 03:07.31 | bjron | hrm |
| 03:07.36 | bjron | wonder why it's using ld to link |
| 03:07.37 | asg | jetscreamer: erm /msg dpkg sid faq (my mistake) |
| 03:07.40 | bjron | that's probably my problem |
| 03:07.56 | Deep6 | asg, dd's man page is terrible |
| 03:08.09 | NeoLaptop | mrwill, i tried installing debian sarge from the debootstrap method (with knoppix cd), and for some reason the install borked, i can't remember why. uh, is there like a list of servers somewhere? i'm trying to locate it ... |
| 03:08.13 | bjron | haha |
| 03:08.14 | bjron | yup :p |
| 03:08.15 | Danar | spoopin, i can't find what you mentioned |
| 03:08.24 | bjron | dang, I'm a bit slo sometimes :) |
| 03:08.26 | mrwill | NeoLaptop: like apt sources? /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:08.37 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status maybe |
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| 03:09.20 | spoopin | Danar: what was that, exactly - the output of route? |
| 03:09.36 | jetscreamer | !knoppix |
| 03:09.36 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
| 03:09.48 | Danar | spoopin, any reference to mismatched duplex modes on that FAQ |
| 03:09.51 | Deep6 | asg care to elaborate ? |
| 03:10.04 | asg | Danar: that was me, hang on, I'll get you the url |
| 03:10.05 | NeoLaptop | jetscreamer, i know that, i was merely using the knoppix booter as a way to bootstrap and install debian sarge on my system. |
| 03:10.10 | jetscreamer | there's only 3 modes, 2 of which are available to test |
| 03:10.11 | Danar | oh |
| 03:10.23 | Deep6 | mwilson, I got this error using sfdisk BLKRRPART: Input/output error |
| 03:10.31 | jetscreamer | either they're both full or half |
| 03:10.54 | TimFreeman | I just upgraded from woody to testing. When running the xfree86 from testing, I get "Caught signal 11. Server aborting" in the log when the server tries to start. I just did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to see if that helped, and it didn't. Any ideas? |
| 03:10.59 | asg | Danar: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/NetworkingPage#head-d0ee53b942509968a12a0214cdc8b07e80d0b892 (the same tools apply, i.e. mii-tool, etc.) |
| 03:11.18 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.25 | asg | jetscreamer: grey on red |
| 03:11.25 | nvz | O_o |
| 03:11.26 | jetscreamer | all ihave is a square |
| 03:11.29 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 03:11.29 | asg | jetscreamer: don't do it again |
| 03:11.35 | jetscreamer | it's not a font? |
| 03:11.38 | dondelelcaro | joy, yet another bug in +c |
| 03:11.45 | Penix | it burns |
| 03:11.46 | jetscreamer | i'm trying to figure out the fonts i don't have |
| 03:11.47 | The_Vulture | dondelelcaro: yeah, was wondering how that happened |
| 03:11.48 | jetscreamer | sorry |
| 03:12.04 | Danar | it used to work, but every once in a while something messes up |
| 03:12.10 | Danar | lately anyway |
| 03:12.20 | Danar | haven't figured out what |
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| 03:12.24 | jetscreamer | ~penixstrike Penix |
| 03:12.26 | apt | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking Penix to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 03:12.26 | qoreqyas | my irssi doesnt hide colors anymore, wtf |
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| 03:12.32 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 03:12.34 | qoreqyas | jetscreamer: how did you do that? |
| 03:12.40 | jetscreamer | do what |
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| 03:12.49 | qoreqyas | jetscreamer: that red background stuff |
| 03:13.14 | jetscreamer | i copied a square thingy from something TimFreeman typed |
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| 03:13.17 | Deep6 | mwilson, figured it out...for some reason there was an invalid partition table on /dev/hdb |
| 03:13.31 | jetscreamer | i thought it was a character in a font i didn't have |
| 03:13.43 | TimFreeman | I'm typing this from an Emacs shell window, I don't know where the control-D came from that you saw as a square thingy. |
| 03:13.44 | Dabian | In the ION2 window manager -> is there a standard key-binding for quitting? I know I can F12 to the menu and do it from there, but is there another way? |
| 03:13.51 | jetscreamer | what i made everybody's screen go red? |
| 03:13.58 | Danar | ... not mine |
| 03:14.00 | mrwill | jetscreamer: not mine. |
| 03:14.06 | asg | Dabian: you can bind whatever key you want to the function that quits |
| 03:14.20 | qoreqyas | jetscreamer: my irssi usualy ignores colors in irc, but yours just apeared with a red background |
| 03:14.22 | Dabian | asg: Yeah .. but is there any binding per default? |
| 03:14.28 | jetscreamer | sorry bout that |
| 03:14.38 | asg | Dabian: the default is F12 which should then prompt you to 'quit (y/n)' |
| 03:14.52 | qoreqyas | jetscreamer: np, its just sortof strange, you hacker |
| 03:14.59 | Danar | asg, i doubt that's the problem. do you have any other ideas? |
| 03:15.03 | Dabian | asg: F12 shows a menu, where I can choose exit .. |
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| 03:15.28 | asg | Danar: check that your nic shows a link light |
| 03:15.50 | asg | Dabian: hmmm, never did that for me, odd. |
| 03:15.54 | Danar | asg, yes it did and does. i'm on it now via a livecd |
| 03:16.15 | Danar | asg, but when i boot back to the HD i can't get back online |
| 03:16.29 | asg | Dabian: oh, try ALT+F12 |
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| 03:17.00 | asg | Dabian: odd |
| 03:17.37 | asg | Danar: erm, odd |
| 03:17.48 | asg | Danar: can you ping your gateway's ip address? |
| 03:18.15 | Danar | asg, when i try to connect to my router, the route light blinks for that port, so that implies it got contacted, but i get no reply... |
| 03:18.22 | Danar | asg, nope, can't ping anything |
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| 03:18.43 | NeoLaptop | hey, does source freeze (or whatever) mean that sarge isn't progressing in program version numbers? i mean, if i install sarge, will gaim still be close to the current version? |
| 03:18.47 | flaco_ | there is a server where i can download debian but with kernel 2.6? |
| 03:18.48 | asg | Danar: well, try running tcpdump and see what packages, if any, return. |
| 03:19.21 | asg | NeoLaptop: only base and standard packages are frozen at the moment. |
| 03:19.31 | NeoLaptop | asg, oh, ok, thanks |
| 03:19.32 | Danar | asg, er, it's been a long time since i've looked at anything like that. not sure i'd remember enough to know what i was doing |
| 03:19.33 | asg | flaco_: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 03:19.48 | asg | Danar: at least to verify that any packets were inbound |
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