| 00:00.27 | stew | !b-e jamal |
| 00:00.28 | dpkg | jamal: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 00:01.14 | jamal | stew: ? |
| 00:01.18 | jamal | !wine |
| 00:01.18 | dpkg | hmm... wine is at http://www.winehq.com/. It stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator or alternative win32 API. very buggy, will be a major part of the death of M$. The sources.list lines are: deb http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main, deb-src http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main. apt-get install shiraz, or a tasty alcoholic beverage. |
| 00:01.47 | stew | jamal: if you install bulid-essential you'll get gcc, make, etc. |
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| 00:01.59 | jamal | over sarge stew |
| 00:02.06 | stew | jamal: what? |
| 00:02.30 | jamal | stew: i have te 14 cd of debian i scanned them all and when i do tasksel |
| 00:02.48 | jamal | it dosn't show langauge as woody |
| 00:03.13 | stew | "doesn't show language as woody"?? |
| 00:03.38 | jamal | stew: in the woody debian , i used to mark python C , |
| 00:03.44 | jamal | but in sarge it doesn't |
| 00:03.56 | stew | !info gcc sarge |
| 00:03.58 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.4-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 28 kB |
| 00:04.03 | stew | !info build-essential sarge |
| 00:04.05 | dpkg | build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB |
| 00:04.19 | stew | jamal: they are all there, in the devel section |
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| 00:04.22 | wig | Can anyone help with lucent winmodems. |
| 00:04.25 | jamal | aha |
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| 00:04.45 | nvz | wig: that depends, know anyone nearby with a hammer? |
| 00:04.46 | jamal | stew: i have to apt-get each one or ? |
| 00:04.53 | jamal | they are all in one place devel ? |
| 00:05.00 | marcot | Hello. I can't make my jack work, when I try to run jackstart, it gives me the message: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:] |
| 00:05.10 | marcot | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.15 | stew | jamal: build-essential will get many of them, the rest you do by hand |
| 00:05.34 | wig | lol nvz |
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| 00:06.11 | jarango | how do I mount an SD card ? |
| 00:06.15 | tritium | What does "hda: drive not ready for command" mean? |
| 00:06.15 | stew | wig: have you looked at linmodems.org? |
| 00:06.20 | wig | stew, yeah |
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| 00:06.34 | wig | stew, it's more that i have the modules loaded and built, just it still will not dial. |
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| 00:07.06 | nvz | wig: there are linmodem drivers that should work, but no idea where to find em.. I throw those out.. I only keep something that I can identify |
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| 00:07.36 | wig | nvz, i've tried everything i find. i can get the modules loaded, bit it still wont dial |
| 00:07.38 | jamal | where i can find via build in sound card alsa didn't make it work ? |
| 00:07.56 | jarango | how do I mount an SD card in debian/linux ? |
| 00:08.44 | stew | jarango: how is the sd card attached? |
| 00:08.50 | nvz | wig: well progress is good.. if module loads you can assume so far everything is green, and you are just confused at how to get the virtual com3/4 deal working and dialing |
| 00:09.05 | jarango | stew: an SD slot on my laptop |
| 00:09.11 | nvz | wig: I prefer an external serial modem, they are a breeze |
| 00:09.19 | stew | jarango: do you have any idea if its supported? |
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| 00:09.32 | wig | nvz, i have this file of text of installing the package, using the "checkout" utility it provided, and then the "pon" response in the logs, if you want to look at it. |
| 00:09.39 | wig | nvz, yeah, but no money at the moment. |
| 00:09.44 | jarango | stew: lspci | grep SD = "0000:02:0d.0 System peripheral: Toshiba America Info Systems SD TypA Controller (rev 05)" |
| 00:09.53 | jamal | any one installed gmailfs ? before |
| 00:10.16 | jamal | i installed it but it didn't ask me to configure it |
| 00:10.17 | stew | jarango: is that your way of saying, "i dunno can you look it up for me"? |
| 00:10.37 | L00thar | nvz: I tried these various trees -- but all I'm getting is the same as all the menus, really. Anybody: where does one change the window manager inside Gnome these daze? |
| 00:10.38 | nvz | wig: yeah I hear ya.. I dont put money into it unless it'll make money. |
| 00:10.50 | nvz | wig: all my shit is either trash or otherwise free |
| 00:11.10 | nvz | wig: I am just so good at comming across technology I can throw away shit that isnt any good |
| 00:11.14 | wig | nvz, ha, yeah. this computer is a '98 or '00 one, old. free though. only thing i bought was speakers. |
| 00:11.38 | jarango | stew: kinda, yeah ...... no, just kidding |
| 00:11.46 | nvz | wig: I currently have like 6 desktops, only using one. and several other goodies |
| 00:11.54 | kaplanfx | gah, giftd runs even when a front end to it is closed huh? |
| 00:11.56 | stew | jarango: check for your laptop on linuxlaptops.org (or was it net?) |
| 00:12.08 | wig | nvz, i had another one, but i promptly broke it after buying. |
| 00:12.15 | nvz | wig: expecting to get some wifi stuff like a wifi router and a wifi router/modem and some more laptops eventually. |
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| 00:12.36 | jamal | !gmailfs |
| 00:12.39 | wig | nvz, nice. 8-) |
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| 00:13.29 | sgeigerbot | jamal: I heard, gmailfs is http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html |
| 00:13.32 | marcot | Can someone please help me starting use jack? |
| 00:13.38 | jarango | stew: Do you know if SD cards are supported in Linux ? |
| 00:13.47 | marcot | How can I fix this capabilitie problem? |
| 00:13.48 | kaplanfx | Hey debian/linux guru's with the apperent death of alsa, and freedesktop.org making strides, do you guys think gstreamer will be the future of linux soundsystems, or will people just use alsa? |
| 00:13.53 | sgeigerbot | jarango: sudo apt-get install jack |
| 00:14.06 | kaplanfx | jarango: depends on what fs is on the card |
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| 00:14.18 | kaplanfx | oh you are talking about a sound card |
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| 00:14.21 | jarango | kaplanfx: I can put any fs on it |
| 00:14.21 | nvz | I think jack would make doing audio on slower systems better.. not sure though as I dont really know what it is yet |
| 00:14.33 | jarango | sgeigerbot: thx |
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| 00:14.42 | sgeigerbot | jarango: or perhaps you are talkinjg abou tjackit.sf.net or jack-tools |
| 00:14.45 | kaplanfx | jarango: how are you planning on reading the card? |
| 00:14.45 | sgeigerbot | ...or jackd. |
| 00:14.53 | mirak | I got a problem again |
| 00:14.58 | nvz | sgeigerbot: you assume people have sudo preconfigured to allow use of apt-get? |
| 00:15.07 | marcot | How can I set the capabilities of my kernel? |
| 00:15.09 | mirak | when try to do grub-install, I get this error : The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. |
| 00:15.14 | sgeigerbot | nvz: hi. Yes, I do. |
| 00:15.20 | stew | jarango: it really depends on how its attached to your machine, readers are supported but i suspect most arent, tuxmobil.org might be a place to look |
| 00:15.21 | j4cbo | how do i reconfigure the network card (i.e. what module to use, ip address, etc) on stable? |
| 00:15.24 | sgeigerbot | nvz: I pimp for things I find useful. |
| 00:15.24 | jarango | sgeigerbot: jack - Rip and encode CDs with one command ????? |
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| 00:15.35 | nvz | sgeigerbot: yeah we know |
| 00:15.36 | sgeigerbot | jarango: you werne't specifric. apt-cache search jack |
| 00:15.41 | sgeigerbot | nvz: :-) |
| 00:15.54 | marcot | I've already installed realtime-lsm-module-2.6.8-1-k7, and realtime module is loaded. |
| 00:15.54 | sgeigerbot | nvz: skype with me... |
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| 00:15.57 | nvz | sgeigerbot: I heard pimpin aint easy |
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| 00:16.04 | nvz | sgeigerbot: why? |
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| 00:16.11 | sgeigerbot | nvz: why not? |
| 00:16.12 | marcot | What else must I do? |
| 00:16.15 | kaplanfx | jarango: you are talking about a secure digital card right? what are you planning on using to read the card? |
| 00:16.15 | nvz | sgeigerbot: heh |
| 00:16.24 | jarango | thx |
| 00:16.30 | marcot | ? |
| 00:16.55 | j4cbo | the network card module seems to be loaded in the initrd, no? |
| 00:16.57 | nvz | sgeigerbot: well I am watching CSI atm, and I would have to requisition sound equipment.. the sound on here is being used to surround the tv |
| 00:17.05 | mirak | help |
| 00:17.12 | jarango | kaplanfx:yes |
| 00:17.16 | mirak | when try to do grub-install, I get this error : The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. |
| 00:17.25 | sgeigerbot | nvz: Computer Security Institute? |
| 00:17.27 | jarango | kaplanfx: my laptop has a slot for it |
| 00:17.35 | jarango | I can't find anything about it |
| 00:17.36 | nvz | sgeigerbot: Crime Scene Invetigator |
| 00:17.51 | kaplanfx | jarango: did you try lspci and lsusb? |
| 00:18.00 | nvz | sgeigerbot: not to mention its mildly disturbing that you want to talk to me for no apperent reason |
| 00:18.07 | stew | kaplanfx: yeah he posted his lspci output |
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| 00:18.09 | sgeigerbot | nvz: :-) |
| 00:18.09 | kaplanfx | its most probably a usb card reader |
| 00:18.12 | nvz | sgeigerbot: heh |
| 00:18.27 | kaplanfx | mine is: kapbox:/usr/src/gtk-qt-engine# lsusb |
| 00:18.27 | kaplanfx | Bus 005 Device 002: ID 07cc:0200 Carry Computer Eng., Co., Ltd 6-in-1 Card Reader |
| 00:18.35 | sgeigerbot | nvz: It's not because I like a to hear the Texas twang. |
| 00:18.41 | jarango | kaplanfx: I tried mounting it as a USB mass storage, it does not work |
| 00:18.55 | sgeigerbot | nvz: I got myself some better headphones... |
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| 00:19.01 | kaplanfx | do you have scsi_mod and sd_mod loaded? |
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| 00:19.07 | nvz | sgeigerbot: bah.. I've not been here long enough.. and I am sure my accent from when I was younger and lived here has faded |
| 00:19.22 | sgeigerbot | nvz: I wouldn't be so sure. |
| 00:19.24 | kaplanfx | it reads the systems as scsi so even with usb_storage you need the scsi module |
| 00:19.30 | kaplanfx | as far as I know |
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| 00:20.21 | muppo | if i want to se my Xfree86.log so i can se any errormsg 2 reboots ago how should i do so best? tail ..... /var/log/XFree86.0.log ? |
| 00:20.47 | jarango | kaplanf: yes, I can mount my usb pen drive but not the SD card |
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| 00:21.17 | angel12 | hey is there an apt command to upgrade all packages? |
| 00:21.18 | optic | anyone know what mailbox format evolution uses? |
| 00:21.32 | jarango | kaplanf: lspci | grep SD = "0000:02:0d.0 System peripheral: Toshiba America Info Systems SD TypA Controller (rev 05)" |
| 00:21.37 | optic | angel12: dselect update then dselect install |
| 00:21.53 | jarango | kaplanf: I guess its not supported |
| 00:22.06 | stew | angel12: apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade |
| 00:22.09 | jarango | kaplanf: very little info on google |
| 00:22.32 | muppo | stew: should && be more preferable there? |
| 00:22.32 | optic | apt-get works too but dselect handles dependencies better |
| 00:22.32 | kaplanfx | jarango: yeah interesting, my card reader is directly on the usb bus, lspci gives no info |
| 00:22.46 | hacim | I'm using uxterm for unicode support, but when I look at man pages, the have a lot of messed up characters in them |
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| 00:22.49 | stew | muppo: sure |
| 00:22.50 | kaplanfx | jarango: I would guess that SD control may need a driver for it |
| 00:22.58 | kaplanfx | that is a guess mind you |
| 00:23.22 | optic | hacim: what output does the locale command give? |
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| 00:24.23 | hacim | optic: which one do you want? there are maybe ten lines output |
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| 00:24.34 | hacim | optic: but most of them are the same: |
| 00:24.35 | hacim | LANG=POSIX |
| 00:24.35 | hacim | LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 00:24.46 | hacim | optic: most are POSIX |
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| 00:25.07 | dondelelcaro | surely you want LANG=C |
| 00:25.07 | optic | hacim: LC_CTYPE |
| 00:25.10 | h3xis | what kernel version does debian 3.0rc2 come with??? |
| 00:25.17 | dondelelcaro | or LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
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| 00:26.33 | optic | hacim: that's not the problem then |
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| 00:26.43 | hacim | dondelelcaro: even with that, I see no difference |
| 00:26.46 | dondelelcaro | hacim: 2.4 and 2.2 |
| 00:26.49 | dondelelcaro | s/hacim/h3xis/ |
| 00:26.50 | sgeigerbot | h3xis: you should learn to install your own kernel. Most people do that immediately upon installing a system. In fact, many people compile their own at that point. |
| 00:27.03 | sgeigerbot | h3xis: It saves headaches later... |
| 00:27.19 | h3xis | no, im about to install debian and would like to know what version just out of curiousity |
| 00:27.51 | optic | hacim: you could always try launching it with LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 uxterm but since its already set it shouldn't make a difference |
| 00:27.53 | dondelelcaro | hacim: what happens if you LANG="en_US.UTF-8" uxterm; then run LANG="en_US.UTF-8" man foo; |
| 00:27.56 | bloom | h3xis: it depends on your installation media and the boot parameters you type in on the first screen |
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| 00:28.03 | bloom | h3xis: what are you installing off of? |
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| 00:28.12 | h3xis | cdrom |
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| 00:28.30 | dondelelcaro | h3xis: odds are you probably want to use the new d-i installer anyway, not the r2 installer. |
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| 00:28.41 | bloom | h3xis: from a CD-ROM, you have the option which kernel you want. If (on the first screen) you type linux, then you'll get some version of the 2.2 kernel |
| 00:28.46 | Ford-Prefect | ok, is it just me or am my debian f*cked up? nazgul:/home/mrprefect# mount /dev/sda1 /home/mrprefect/digicam/ -o uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=007 |
| 00:28.46 | Ford-Prefect | mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 00:28.46 | optic | dondelelcaro: isn't the CTYPE what is important, since LANG would only control the language of hte man page but not the char type? |
| 00:28.54 | h3xis | alright |
| 00:28.57 | bloom | h3xis: if you type bf24 at that screen, then you'll get a 2.4.18 kernel |
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| 00:29.18 | Ford-Prefect | but when I do dmesg I get this: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 |
| 00:29.26 | nvz | sgeigerbot: well most people in Pittsburgh would tell me my whole life I had a southern accent.. I only lived in Texas a few years when I was like 2 or 3 years old |
| 00:29.28 | hacim | dondelelcaro: gives me the same funky characters |
| 00:29.30 | bloom | h3xis: you probably want to look at installing a more recent kernel after you've installed the system. |
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| 00:29.37 | h3xis | bloom, yeah i plan to |
| 00:30.00 | optic | hacim: when in doubt run dpkg-reconfigure locales then dpkg-reconfigure localeconf if you want to customize |
| 00:30.07 | Ford-Prefect | ops... my bad... the batteries had just died in the camera |
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| 00:31.28 | hacim | optic: I dont have localeconf installed |
| 00:32.36 | cafuego | if all computers with LOTR related names were shut down, the planet's power consumption would be halved |
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| 00:33.25 | optic | nite |
| 00:33.25 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: strange... none of mine would go down... |
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| 00:33.29 | jamal | any one have used gmailfs |
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| 00:33.39 | bloom | cafuego: luckily, if that happened cat-in-the-hat and little-cat-a would still be running |
| 00:33.57 | bloom | cafuego: of course, I could rename them gandalf and frodo and the metaphor might even be better. |
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| 00:34.33 | candymancan | ...What is kjournald, and why does it fail so often? |
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| 00:34.42 | Scrlk | Howdy guys. |
| 00:35.30 | cafuego | candymancan: it keeps track of meta-data for your journaling ext3 filesystem. if it fails often, your hardware may be broken and you may be losing data. |
| 00:35.30 | jamal | !gmailfs |
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| 00:35.57 | candymancan | ...Could you be more specific than hardware broken? IE, do I need a new hard drive? |
| 00:36.29 | cafuego | candymancan: No, check your ram, make sure the cpu isn't overheating. |
| 00:36.34 | candymancan | And how do you exit back to the shell after error messages when Ctrl+c does nothing? |
| 00:36.42 | candymancan | Nay, not overheating. |
| 00:36.47 | bloom | !SDNWOTN |
| 00:37.04 | bloom | !SDNWOTN is Sarcasm Does Not Work On The Net |
| 00:37.04 | dpkg | okay, bloom |
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| 00:37.30 | sugartru64 | I thought my ext3'd drive was going bad once because of all the journald errors it was giving, but turned out it was my ram |
| 00:37.33 | Scrlk | hey guys i am getting this msg when i try to take down dhcpd No subnet declaration for stop (0.0.0.0). |
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| 00:38.25 | jamal | any one can help me in gmailfs |
| 00:38.37 | stew | Scrlk: how are you trying to take it down? |
| 00:38.46 | Scrlk | yes |
| 00:38.57 | sugartru64 | jamal, whats the prob? |
| 00:38.58 | Scrlk | to bring it back up so it can get the new info i put in |
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| 00:39.42 | wuerze | hello? |
| 00:40.02 | bloom | hello wuerze |
| 00:40.12 | beb0s | wuerze, yes hello :-) |
| 00:40.41 | bloom | Scrlk: he asked *how* |
| 00:40.47 | Scrlk | oh i am sorry |
| 00:40.48 | jamal | mount -t gmailfs /usr/local/bin/gmailfs.py /path/of/mount/point -o username=gmailuser, password=gmailpass, fsname=zOlRR |
| 00:40.51 | jamal | explain this |
| 00:40.55 | Scrlk | here we go dhcpd stop |
| 00:41.06 | maebmij | Scrlk: tried something like /etc/init.d/dhcp restart ? |
| 00:41.08 | jamal | or ? |
| 00:41.13 | Scrlk | yes but i will try it again |
| 00:41.16 | jamal | /path/of/mount/point < does it mean /dev/hda? |
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| 00:41.35 | wuerze | Cueball, |
| 00:41.36 | jamal | or where i have set my file |
| 00:41.36 | wuerze | cu |
| 00:41.42 | Kerr | can anyone reccomend a small/light word processor with spellchecker? |
| 00:41.49 | sugartru64 | jamal, /path/of/mount/point means something like /mnt/gmailfs or ~/my_gmail |
| 00:41.59 | zinx | Kerr: any editor + aspell |
| 00:42.15 | jamal | i did create a link like /mnt/gmailfs |
| 00:42.17 | sugartru64 | jamal, pretty much anywhere u want to "mount" (link to) the space |
| 00:42.24 | Scrlk | oh look at that.. heh it worked.. me loves maebmij :) |
| 00:42.27 | bloom | Scrlk: it appears from the manpage for dhcpd that you don't tell it to stop with the command "dhcpd stop" |
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| 00:42.37 | sugartru64 | ok, so change the /path/of... to /mnt/gmailfs |
| 00:42.37 | jamal | but do i sugartru64 well mkdir -p /mnt/gmailfs |
| 00:42.39 | jamal | is that right |
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| 00:42.53 | bloom | Scrlk: you use the initscript in /etc/init.d |
| 00:42.57 | Scrlk | ok lets test out my things. i hope it works.. everyone cross your fingers :) |
| 00:43.00 | sugartru64 | i don't know abou the -p |
| 00:43.01 | Kerr | !gmailfs |
| 00:43.06 | Scrlk | it restarted :) thanks a ton.. |
| 00:43.07 | bloom | Scrlk: the dhcpd binary that's in your path expects interface names |
| 00:43.11 | jamal | A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom, |
| 00:43.12 | jamal | or by label, using -L label or by uuid, using -U uuid . |
| 00:43.12 | jamal | Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd]. |
| 00:43.12 | jamal | For many more details, say man 8 mount . |
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| 00:43.14 | sugartru64 | but yes, that will make a directory to mount the gmailfs to |
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| 00:43.36 | stew | !gmailfs is a hack to let your gmail account be mounted as a local filesystem, http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html |
| 00:43.36 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 00:43.42 | nvz | jamal: umm? |
| 00:43.48 | jamal | sugartru64, isn't this right |
| 00:43.53 | jamal | it give me the same msg |
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| 00:44.02 | bloom | Kerr: if you have a question, ask. The bots don't seem to know the answer. |
| 00:44.35 | stew | Kerr: if you want a proper word processor you might look at abiword |
| 00:44.48 | TheTom | word! |
| 00:44.56 | sgeigerbot | Kerr: http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html |
| 00:45.06 | sgeigerbot | Kerr: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/002476.html |
| 00:45.17 | jamal | i'm reading |
| 00:45.18 | Kerr | i'm guessing gmail won't approve of that :-P |
| 00:45.25 | jamal | but i can't guess mounts |
| 00:45.27 | stew | !gmailfs is also http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/002476.html |
| 00:45.27 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 00:45.35 | bloom | Kerr: for word processing I usually use vim with LaTeX, and aspell for spell checking |
| 00:45.36 | sgeigerbot | Kerr: Don't be so sure... |
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| 00:45.57 | bloom | Kerr: I'd hardly call it light in the download sense, but it doesn't take up lots of ram and processor time when running. |
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| 00:46.52 | hedleshrsmn | bloom: agreed. |
| 00:47.34 | jamal | another question |
| 00:47.46 | jamal | You can mount your Gmail filesystem either via fstab or on the command line using mount. |
| 00:47.47 | jamal | To use fstab, create an entry /etc/fstab that looks something like: |
| 00:47.49 | heinrich | i've just made the latest update on my sarge debian and among the packages was a new kernel img. the problem is that now i get an error from the kernel. it says: kernel attempted to kill init |
| 00:48.10 | heinrich | how do i solve this? thank you |
| 00:48.11 | hedleshrsmn | heinrich: well, that's not so nice. |
| 00:48.23 | bloom | jamal: you can't mount it using mount (without an fstab entry) except as root |
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| 00:48.30 | hedleshrsmn | heinrich: boot from the previous kernel and don't use the new one. |
| 00:48.31 | jamal | i'm root |
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| 00:48.50 | heinrich | how do i do that? grub only sees the new kernel |
| 00:48.57 | Scrlk | ok now i am having another problem. i have a dlink router lets call it (r1) that goes to a switch (which should call it s1) which goes to the linux routers eth0 which has eth1 going to a switch (call it s2) which we have a windows computre connected to it. Now i can ping the linux router from the windows box. but i can't ping the dlink (r1) from it. it says unreachble host |
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| 00:49.03 | heinrich | and i think apt-get wrote over my old kernel |
| 00:49.08 | bloom | jamal: and you didn't paste the /etc/fstab line |
| 00:49.14 | hedleshrsmn | heinrich: you must read documentation on grub to edit its config files. they should be in /boot or /boot/grub. |
| 00:49.19 | jamal | bloom, how |
| 00:49.56 | heinrich | ok....but how do i edit the config files if i don't have access to them anymore? |
| 00:49.58 | stew | Scrlk: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward what do you see? 1 or 0? |
| 00:50.05 | Scrlk | 1 |
| 00:50.08 | heinrich | i can't boot a working kernel |
| 00:50.17 | jamal | SuperMe:/etc# ./fstab |
| 00:50.18 | jamal | bash: ./fstab: Permission denied |
| 00:50.22 | stew | Scrlk: are you trying to masquerade? |
| 00:50.25 | heinrich | the only one listed in grub is the new one |
| 00:50.26 | hedleshrsmn | heinrich: oh no. unless you've manually removed the current kernel then I'm pretty certain it keeps it around. look in / for vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old. look in /boot for the targets of those links. if you have to, boot from a Debian install CD or LiveCD of your choice (DSL, Slax, Knoppix, etc.) |
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| 00:50.38 | bloom | jamal: fstab isn't a command |
| 00:50.50 | bloom | jamal: fstab is a configuration file |
| 00:50.51 | jamal | bloom, what than |
| 00:50.53 | stew | hedleshrsmn: not when its an upgrade, he didnt' install a new kernel, he got an upgrade to an old kernel |
| 00:50.55 | jamal | ok |
| 00:50.57 | Scrlk | i dont know what masquerade is |
| 00:51.05 | heinrich | jamal: fstab is in /etc and it is a file |
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| 00:51.08 | hedleshrsmn | heinrich: that is the only one listed in grub. you must edit the grub config. if you have to, boot from a debian install cd and choose "make the system bootable" after going through the most basic preliminary steps. |
| 00:51.20 | peterS | Scrlk: it's an older term for what is now known as 'network address translation', or NAT |
| 00:51.32 | jamal | how to mount in that file |
| 00:51.33 | bloom | jamal: I don't know the mount options for gmailfs, so I can't give you samples for how to mount it |
| 00:51.44 | Scrlk | ok i guess i need to do that? |
| 00:51.49 | stew | Scrlk: what network is eth0 on, what network is eth1 on? |
| 00:51.51 | bloom | jamal: if something is listed in /etc/fstab already |
| 00:51.58 | jamal | /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 00:52.01 | bloom | jamal: then you can mount it by the command |
| 00:52.01 | jamal | for example |
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| 00:52.10 | bloom | jamal: mount $MOUNTPOINT |
| 00:52.18 | heinrich | ok...i'll try that. thank you hedleshrsmn |
| 00:52.19 | stew | Scrlk: by network i mean somehting like 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 00:52.19 | Scrlk | 192.168.1.0 is eth0 192.168.2.0 is eth1 |
| 00:52.22 | bloom | jamal: where $MOUNTPOINT is replaced with the mountpoint for that device |
| 00:52.39 | Scrlk | general network i mean ;0 |
| 00:52.46 | Scrlk | that is how it suppost to be setup |
| 00:52.49 | jamal | well i have to replace it with /dev/??? |
| 00:52.51 | jamal | what |
| 00:52.57 | heinrich | jamal: mountpoint meaning the device din /dev or the directory in which you mount the device |
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| 00:53.17 | bloom | jamal: it's probably going to be a URL, rather than a file in /dev. |
| 00:53.25 | Scrlk | so anything in the first router be .1.blah and anything that comes from the switchunder the linux box should be .2.blah |
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| 00:53.29 | bloom | jamal: check your gmailfs documentation |
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| 00:56.32 | Scrlk | Wall jack to modem. modem to Router1. Router1 to switch1 (which would give out 192.168.1.0 ips) which goes to my linux router eth0. From the linux router i have a second card eth1 going to another switch which from there a windows computer is. the second switch shoudl give out 192.168.2.0 address |
| 00:57.23 | staniel | Scrlk: uhh... switches don't give out ip addresses |
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| 00:57.41 | zignig | staniel: not usually. |
| 00:57.43 | Scrlk | well the linux router suppost to be doing it i mean :) dhcp |
| 00:57.53 | zignig | staniel: managed switches often can. |
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| 00:58.41 | soften | managed switches generally get them, but don't give them |
| 00:58.47 | Scrlk | nono the router1 gives out the ips. then linux routers suppost to have dhcp for the switch to be able to give out ips under that swtich if that makes any sence |
| 00:59.27 | heinrich | what do you recommend using with sarge? kernel 2.4 or 2.6? |
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| 01:00.16 | Scrlk | i guess i shoudl just ask this. my windows computer has a ip. and i can ping my linux box fromthe windows machine. b ti can't ping the real router |
| 01:00.39 | Scrlk | or get out to the net |
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| 01:01.08 | _kaiser_ | anyone know how to do a recursive line count on a lot of files? |
| 01:01.24 | soften | Scrlk, your windows box needs to know that eth1 on your linux box is its gateway. your linux box needs to know where to route packets for your windows box. |
| 01:01.32 | _kaiser_ | wc -L only seems to a line count on the current directory |
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| 01:01.50 | Scrlk | how do you do that.. that is my quesiton.. :) how do i make my linux box router packets for my windows box |
| 01:01.53 | oberke | _kaiser_ : find . -type f -exec wc -l \{\} \; |
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| 01:02.28 | _kaiser_ | oberke: thanks |
| 01:02.36 | soften | Scrlk, using the route command |
| 01:02.39 | oberke | there is an experimental web interface for ara (a tool for searching the debian package database) at http://congruence.net1.nerim.net/search feel free to try it |
| 01:03.03 | _kaiser_ | oberke: hmm.. I was wanting a total count of the lines? |
| 01:03.09 | Scrlk | route command??? |
| 01:03.15 | soften | Scrlk, the route command adds routes. basically you need a route for the 192.168.2 network to route out eth1 and a default route that heads out eth0 to the router |
| 01:03.26 | oberke | _kaiser_ : find . -type f -exec cat \{\} \; | wc -l ;) |
| 01:03.26 | soften | to see your existing routes, use the command: route -n |
| 01:03.52 | _kaiser_ | oberke: im impressed. :-) thanks. |
| 01:03.59 | Kerr | i think gmailfs ia a bad idea. |
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| 01:04.22 | _kaiser_ | oberke: mine explaining how that works to me? |
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| 01:04.58 | _kaiser_ | oberke: nevermind, I figured it out. :-D |
| 01:04.59 | mos | i need glib 2.x but glib-config --version says it is 1.x , how can i update it? |
| 01:05.00 | Kerr | driving up googles bandwith costs with fs hacks will just stop gmail from being a viable product and get it reduced, or shut down. In short, don't bite the hand. |
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| 01:05.04 | _kaiser_ | oberke: thanks again. |
| 01:05.16 | initech | _kaiser_: break it down piece by piece and you'll see |
| 01:05.24 | _kaiser_ | initech: yep, I got it. |
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| 01:05.33 | EfaistOs | how to erase a dvd-RW ? |
| 01:05.53 | oberke | _kaiser_: you're welcome |
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| 01:06.06 | candymancan | Hey, uhh I'm trying to install X window system, and apparently it really needs something called libxt6, and libxt6 has a syntax error so I can't install it...what should I do? |
| 01:06.36 | gratuit | is there a command I could run that would change to a terminal from X? (do the equivalent of pressing ctl-alt-F1) |
| 01:06.43 | nvz | candymancan: umm? |
| 01:06.57 | nvz | candymancan: "libxt6 has a syntax error" ? |
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| 01:07.19 | mos | i was trying to compile a pack. by manual, it said that i didnt have =<glib2 , which package do i need to upgrade? |
| 01:07.20 | candymancan | Yep |
| 01:07.28 | candymancan | Expecting a parenthesis where there is none, it said. |
| 01:07.36 | Goetmet | I want to write a GTK+ based CD Cataloguer, which it scans for cds and store information about every cd you scan. I know GTK+ and C/C++, but I guess it would be useful to know something more for a project like that.. what should I learn, for example, to store or organizate the data? |
| 01:07.38 | nvz | candymancan: Yep is not an exceptable answer |
| 01:07.39 | Goetmet | XML or something ? |
| 01:07.49 | nvz | candymancan: you get an error when you apt-get the package? |
| 01:08.05 | directhex | mos, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 01:08.19 | candymancan | Yeah, "line 770: syntax error near unexpected token '(' " |
| 01:08.24 | mos | directhex 3.1 |
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| 01:08.39 | mos | but i just made a fresh installation this morning |
| 01:08.42 | Scrlk | could somone look at the tables and tell me if ther eis something wrong the way i have it? |
| 01:08.43 | Goetmet | any idea? |
| 01:08.44 | nvz | candymancan: this is during the post-install configureation? |
| 01:08.49 | spiekey | hiho |
| 01:08.50 | candymancan | Correct. |
| 01:08.55 | mathieu | how can i check which serial ports are available on my computer? |
| 01:08.56 | sgeigerbot | candymancan: "apt-get install x-window-system-core discover read-edid mdetect; dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86; apt-get install xserver-xfree86" ..and then something like "apt-get get install kdm kdebase" |
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| 01:08.58 | directhex | mos, apt-get install libglib2.0-dev ? |
| 01:09.00 | hugl | Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so into server: /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 01:09.04 | spiekey | which package do i need for a nfs client? nfs-common? |
| 01:09.06 | hugl | But i gave apt-get'ed php4 |
| 01:09.09 | sgeigerbot | ~+set up x |
| 01:09.10 | apt | i guess set up x is To set up X in woody, sarge or sid, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86" (or x-window-system-core instead of xserver-xfree86 if you don't have it yet) Sometimes "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" works. dpkg-reconfigure will keep your old values as defaults ... |
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| 01:09.11 | nvz | candymancan: well those are shell scripts, and can be fixed you know.. you can goto that line and satisfy the syntax error |
| 01:09.30 | candymancan | Yes, I already checked dpkg and followed that to the letter... |
| 01:09.31 | spiekey | or what is nfs-user-server for? |
| 01:09.39 | mos | hmm its fetching something directhex :) |
| 01:09.41 | sgeigerbot | candymancan: just run the commands... |
| 01:10.05 | Scrlk | hey guys coudl somone take a look at it preatty please.. where can i paste it... |
| 01:10.10 | Scrlk | ? |
| 01:10.17 | sgeigerbot | candymancan: hmm |
| 01:10.21 | justin | spiekey: what does the package description say it is for? |
| 01:10.25 | nvz | sgeigerbot: are you even paying attention? |
| 01:10.38 | sgeigerbot | nvz: keep your "poking things" to yourself. |
| 01:11.12 | mathieu | how are the serial ports called? |
| 01:11.12 | mos | directhex thank you very much.. |
| 01:11.36 | directhex | mathieu, /dev/ttyS0 -> /dev/ttyS(bignumber) |
| 01:11.56 | candymancan | Well, apt_, when I try doing that again, it says one package (libxt6) needs to be upgraded, then it proceeds to try upgrading it and then recieving syntax errors and quitting. |
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| 01:12.25 | mathieu | directhex, no tty with capital S here.. means i don't have kernel support? |
| 01:12.38 | candymancan | So, uhh, is there some way to edit it? |
| 01:12.56 | directhex | mathieu, probably. |
| 01:13.36 | candymancan | ...Anyone kind enough to help? |
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| 01:14.19 | candymancan | ...Oye. |
| 01:14.25 | ComSense | hi. is it just me, or is software RAID horrendously broken in sarge? |
| 01:14.36 | hacim | ComSense: what do you mean? |
| 01:14.37 | directhex | ComSense, ask #debian-boot about it |
| 01:14.39 | hacim | ComSense: in the installer? |
| 01:14.51 | ComSense | installer, yes. trying to create a RAID out of two seagate 200gb's |
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| 01:15.04 | ComSense | it goes all the way to 100% in creating the partition, then the dreaded red screen :( |
| 01:15.06 | hacim | ComSense: are you using RC2? |
| 01:15.10 | ComSense | yes, hacim |
| 01:15.19 | ComSense | using a maxtor ata/133 card using the promise 20269 chipset |
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| 01:15.22 | muppo | if i get ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such device what have i done wrong then? |
| 01:15.24 | hacim | ComSense: yeah talk to #debian-boot, you might have a good bug to report |
| 01:15.28 | ComSense | mkay. |
| 01:15.30 | ComSense | thanks and stuff |
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| 01:15.35 | hacim | sure and stuff |
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| 01:16.00 | candymancan | So, can anyone tell me name of a program I can run in terminal to edit libxt6 and hopefully fix the syntax errors? |
| 01:16.13 | ComSense | unless I'm doing something wrong? |
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| 01:16.29 | sgeigerbot | candymancan: that's a binary package... |
| 01:16.30 | dondelelcaro | candymancan: paste the exact output of the apt-get upgrade; run into #flood |
| 01:16.31 | ComSense | just to make sure I'm on the right track here . . . is it even possible to raid two disks, and make that be bootable? |
| 01:16.41 | kbrooks | How do I remove ALL of kde? |
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| 01:16.52 | dondelelcaro | kbrooks: remove something like libqt or similar. |
| 01:16.58 | candymancan | dondelcaro - how do I do that again? |
| 01:17.00 | FrozenSpoon | comsense - yes I've done it |
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| 01:17.05 | kbrooks | dondelelcaro, i'm not removing qt |
| 01:17.08 | Wyzard | ComSense: With hardware RAID, yes -- the OS sees what looks like a single drive |
| 01:17.15 | zirikili | hi |
| 01:17.17 | ComSense | wyzard: how about software? |
| 01:17.24 | kbrooks | what packages depend on qt, anyway? |
| 01:17.26 | FrozenSpoon | yes you can do it with software no problem |
| 01:17.30 | dondelelcaro | kbrooks: kde packages do. |
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| 01:17.38 | Wyzard | ComSense: With software RAID, sort of... you need to have /boot on something non-RAID, and use an initrd to start the array |
| 01:17.45 | kbrooks | dondelelcaro, so i remove libqt and readd it? |
| 01:17.45 | zirikili | does 'apt-get remove' remove all the files installed by 'apt-get install' ? |
| 01:17.46 | justin | Wyzard: wrong. |
| 01:17.49 | Wyzard | justin: oh? |
| 01:17.50 | FrozenSpoon | no you don't need /boot seperate |
| 01:18.24 | DimmuR | zirikili, no - apt-get remove removes files but leaves configs. If u want to permanent remove all use --purge |
| 01:18.29 | dondelelcaro | kbrooks: no, you just remove libqt3c102-mt or whatever you've got installed, and everything that depends on it will go away as well. |
| 01:18.31 | ComSense | frozenspoo: here's what I'm doing in installing rc2 . . tell me if i'm wrong on anything. i partition all of each drive as "physical volume for RAID" . . . then I use "configure software raid" and set it up as a MD set. then I partition that RAID set as "all in one partition" . . . it goes ok, until I go to "finish partitioning" . . it creates files sytem, goes to 100%, then red screen and sys it couldn't create it |
| 01:18.40 | dondelelcaro | kbrooks: although, odds are high that you only want a subset of the kde packages. |
| 01:18.44 | zirikili | DimmuR: thanks |
| 01:18.57 | kbrooks | dondelelcaro, *must* i readd libqt3c102-mt? |
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| 01:19.07 | kbrooks | do you recommend i do? |
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| 01:19.28 | kbrooks | dondelelcaro, no. i want ALL of kde removed |
| 01:19.29 | dondelelcaro | kbrooks: in which case, you should use something like aptitude, synaptic, or dselect to go through the packages and mark everything that you didn't explicitely want installed as automatically installed, and the KDE stuff will go away when you don't need it any longer. |
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| 01:19.45 | ComSense | Hello iLLPoTaTo, welcome to #debian |
| 01:19.49 | dondelelcaro | kbrooks: then just remove whatever variant of the libqt3 package you have installed. |
| 01:19.51 | FrozenSpoon | comsense: I've never used Debian to setup raid. I just know you can do it since I did it with a 2.2 kernel a long time ago |
| 01:19.52 | ComSense | woops :) |
| 01:19.55 | kbrooks | dondelelcaro, mkay |
| 01:19.56 | ComSense | hrm |
| 01:19.58 | ComSense | :( |
| 01:20.50 | iLLPoTaTo | I'm having trouble with my NIC. It doesn't try to get a new IP after the dynamic lease expires, how can I set a static IP? I'm behing a Linksys BEFSR41 router. |
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| 01:21.05 | zirikili | is there any reason for gnone be the default window manager on debian? |
| 01:21.16 | dondelelcaro | iLLPoTaTo: man 5 interfaces; and configure your /etc/network/interfaces; file. |
| 01:21.18 | Wyzard | iLLPoTaTo: Your DHCP client should be renewing the lease so that it doesn't expire... |
| 01:21.22 | dondelelcaro | zirikili: gnome isn't a windows manager. |
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| 01:21.39 | distempr | swapon: /dev/hda2: Function not implemented ... <<-- eh? Swap's not being activated at boot, any idea? :x |
| 01:21.53 | Wyzard | distempr: Did you recently build a custom 2.6 kernel? |
| 01:21.56 | FrozenSpoon | comsense: I used the instructions here: http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO.html ... you can put your root filesystem on soft-RAID and boot from it. I dunno how to do it in Debian wizards though |
| 01:22.01 | dondelelcaro | zirikili: as to why it's the default desktop environment, and why sawfish is installed by default if you need a window manager, that's just because it happens to be that way. |
| 01:22.03 | distempr | Wyzard, heh a while back yeah. |
| 01:22.15 | Wyzard | distempr: Swap support is optional in 2.6... you probably left it turned off |
| 01:22.18 | dondelelcaro | zirikili: nothing is stoping you from choosing a WM or DM or whatever that is more appropriate for you. |
| 01:22.26 | distempr | Wyzard, oh, crap. Thanks I'll go check. |
| 01:22.27 | dondelelcaro | (or is metacity installed now? I can never remember.) |
| 01:22.42 | directhex | dondelelcaro, twm! |
| 01:22.47 | Wyzard | distempr: It's named "support for paging of virtual memory" or something like that |
| 01:22.50 | kbrooks | how do i use deselect to mark the kde packages as automatically installed? |
| 01:22.55 | kbrooks | dselect* |
| 01:23.08 | peterS | kbrooks: dselect does not have that feature |
| 01:23.15 | peterS | kbrooks: run aptitude and use the 'm' and 'M' keys |
| 01:23.31 | kbrooks | peterS, OK |
| 01:23.41 | zirikili | dondelelcaro: ok. it's a DE. I'm just curious about why it is the default |
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| 01:24.57 | distempr | Wyzard, thanks, upgrading to 2.6.9 while I'm at it ;) Hope I don't run out of memory. |
| 01:25.19 | iLLPoTaTo | Wyzard: the dhcp client meaning the box not the router? |
| 01:25.29 | Wyzard | distempr: Be careful if you use a framebuffer console... that feature is broken in Debian's 2.6.9 |
| 01:25.30 | Wyzard | iLLPoTaTo: yes |
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| 01:25.51 | lgd_ | hi all |
| 01:26.00 | iLLPoTaTo | Wyzard, is there anyway to check that? Because the IP seems to just disappear |
| 01:26.02 | lgd_ | is there a mode for do hacking ? |
| 01:26.08 | resiak | lgd_: Er, what? |
| 01:26.08 | kbrooks | i want to 'go back' to the menu where i use M and m keys, how do i do so |
| 01:26.16 | dondelelcaro | zirikili: it's the default because that's what the desktop tasksel happens to pick, and it's what is currently agreed upon to be the default. |
| 01:26.21 | kbrooks | in aptitude |
| 01:26.22 | Wyzard | iLLPoTaTo: Specifically, the daemon which communicates with the DHCP server and configures the network interface, and then remains running to do things like renew the lease |
| 01:26.24 | dondelelcaro | zirikili: oddly enough, kdm is the default DM. |
| 01:26.40 | lgd_ | i search the howto for defacement |
| 01:26.48 | Wyzard | iLLPoTaTo: Do you know which DHCP client software you're using? (probably "pump" or "dhcp-client") |
| 01:26.54 | kbrooks | lgd_, we don't crack, sorry |
| 01:26.55 | iLLPoTaTo | pump |
| 01:26.56 | Wyzard | lgd_: We don't do that here, sorry. Go away. |
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| 01:27.03 | dondelelcaro | lgd_: find your local carabineri office and just turn yourself in. It'll save you a lot of time. |
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| 01:27.21 | lgd_ | =) carabinieri |
| 01:27.27 | staniel | + |
| 01:27.46 | lgd_ | but for docoment me ? |
| 01:27.52 | Wyzard | iLLPoTaTo: I haven't used pump in a long time... I'd recommend switching to dhcp-client or dhcp3-client |
| 01:27.57 | dondelelcaro | lgd_: no, it doesn't exist. Go elsewhere. |
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| 01:28.36 | FrozenSpoon | How can I determine what package contains a specific executable? |
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| 01:28.44 | dondelelcaro | FrozenSpoon: dpkg -S |
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| 01:28.48 | ugly | people still use pump!? |
| 01:28.51 | kbrooks | what is gv? |
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| 01:28.56 | dondelelcaro | kbrooks: ghost view. |
| 01:28.58 | ugly | haven't heard that name mentioned in years |
| 01:29.06 | Wyzard | iLLPoTaTo: If you're going to switch DHCP clients, I recommend doing an "apt-get install --download-only <package>" for each of them first, to get the package cached locally so that you can install it without network connectivity if necessary |
| 01:29.12 | kbrooks | dondelelcaro, what exactly is it |
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| 01:29.22 | dondelelcaro | kbrooks: postscript viewer |
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| 01:29.32 | kbrooks | and where can I remove the .deb files? |
| 01:29.45 | Wyzard | kbrooks: It's a software PostScript interpreter which can render to the screen or to various printer-specific formats |
| 01:29.53 | dondelelcaro | kbrooks: in aptitude or apt-get or dselect or whatever. |
| 01:30.06 | FrozenSpoon | dondelelcaro: I mean one that has not been installed |
| 01:30.07 | kbrooks | dondelelcaro, No. location of the files |
| 01:30.11 | Wyzard | oops, gv, not gs... viewer indeed |
| 01:30.29 | nvz | gah, this girl's mother needs smacked.. she's like 5 and her mother lets her watch south park, and her b/f play this GTA-SA game I've been playing.. This game is definatly not for young children.. |
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| 01:30.50 | Wyzard | nvz: The 5-year-old has a boyfriend? |
| 01:30.56 | dondelelcaro | nvz: nothing wrong with that if her mother discusses what she's watching with her |
| 01:31.04 | nvz | we dont let her watch us play, but she gets all excited when she sees it because her mom lets her play it |
| 01:31.44 | kbrooks | Does anyone here know the location of the downloaded *.deb files |
| 01:31.49 | nvz | dondelelcaro: how can you explain all the profanity and voilence being delivered from the PS2 at no end.. and I am sure she doesnt do that |
| 01:31.51 | Dave2|Laptop | /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 01:31.52 | Dave2|Laptop | IIRC |
| 01:31.56 | kbrooks | k |
| 01:32.00 | nvz | Wyzard: no the mothers b/f |
| 01:32.06 | Wyzard | kbrooks: When you install stuff with apt, it goes in /var/cache/apt/archives... you can use "apt-get clean" rather than deleting the files manually |
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| 01:32.33 | astronut | For some reason, whenever I do an apt-get update, I have to do it 3 times to make sure it works...a lot of times, it will just say "Hit"... but if I do it three times, it will download the new lists the third try. It acts almost like there is a cache, but there shouldn't be...does anyone know why? |
| 01:32.48 | dondelelcaro | nvz: *shrug* |
| 01:32.56 | peterS | astronut: you might be hitting different mirrors that are not updated at exactly the same time |
| 01:32.59 | kbrooks | Wyzard, but I *can* clear the directory *manually*, can't i? |
| 01:33.11 | peterS | astronut: "ftp.us.debian.org" for example is a pool of quite a few machines |
| 01:33.14 | Wyzard | kbrooks: Yes, it's safe... just that "apt-get clean" is usually quicker to type |
| 01:33.18 | astronut | peterS: ah...... |
| 01:33.27 | astronut | peterS: but why always three times? |
| 01:33.37 | astronut | and it's always 3 times...no matter when i do it |
| 01:33.41 | astronut | for the workstation |
| 01:33.43 | astronut | 2 times for the server |
| 01:33.44 | peterS | astronut: I have no idea. these things are selected with DNS round robin |
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| 01:33.50 | dondelelcaro | that's like kindergarten or something... in public school, you'd already have learned all of that profanity... |
| 01:33.52 | astronut | (wkstn sid, server sarge) |
| 01:34.06 | Wyzard | astronut: Or maybe your ISP is doing proxying, and the proxy software doesn't handle caching very well |
| 01:34.15 | ugly | what's profanity? I was home schooled, please tell me |
| 01:34.15 | astronut | Wyzard: i dunno...i doubt they proxy |
| 01:34.17 | kbrooks | deleting...deleted |
| 01:34.20 | astronut | i'll email them and ask |
| 01:34.34 | ugly | is that like "gosh" and "heck"? |
| 01:34.45 | dondelelcaro | ugly: fuck off trolling bitch-ass shit eating mother fucker! |
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| 01:34.49 | IT | and fiddlesticks |
| 01:34.50 | nvz | dondelelcaro: she's not in kindergarden yet. and this kid is already getting out of control and she just turned 5 |
| 01:34.53 | ugly | MY VIRGIN EYES! |
| 01:35.02 | MarcN | dondelelcaro: 8 years ago, the first day of 1st grade my son came home and asked me what FNCK spelled. (He saw it written on the bus seat) |
| 01:35.04 | kbrooks | heh |
| 01:35.11 | dondelelcaro | MarcN: heh |
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| 01:35.28 | MarcN | dondelelcaro: Had to explain there was a poor speller on the bus |
| 01:35.31 | ugly | should have told him it was FUNK |
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| 01:35.48 | dondelelcaro | nvz: yeah... how old is the mother? /me is guessing 23-27 |
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| 01:36.00 | MarcN | ugly: he knew is was an 'inappropriate word', but didn't know which one. |
| 01:36.08 | nvz | dondelelcaro: the profanity her mother lets her see isnt the issue, its the fact shes got 6 different people involed in her up-bringing, and none of them communicate on the values they are teaching the kid |
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| 01:36.18 | sgeigerbot | nvz: Re: * nvz notes that sgeigerbot can be disturbing in more than small doese> what is a doese? |
| 01:36.22 | Wyzard | lgd_: Changing your nick won't help you... |
| 01:36.34 | FrozenSpoon | I can't figure this out -- if there anyway to have lsof report each time a write occurs? I'm trying to elminate all writes I can but some process keeps writing to disk and I don't know which one |
| 01:36.57 | kbrooks | i want to find out, in human friendly size, the size of foo in megabytes, gigabytes, etc |
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| 01:37.02 | kbrooks | a* |
| 01:37.04 | Gob | Hi guys. I have a little question please... |
| 01:37.04 | nvz | dondelelcaro: yeah she's probably not even that old. I'd guess about my age 21 |
| 01:37.08 | kbrooks | how do i do so |
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| 01:37.23 | sgeigerbot | FrozenSpoon: how frequently does it write to disk? |
| 01:37.25 | iLLPoTaTo | Wyzard: i installed dhcp3-client, is there anything in particular i should set up? |
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| 01:37.27 | Gob | Can I install and use wine without windows installed on my PC ? |
| 01:37.35 | kbrooks | Gob, yes |
| 01:37.35 | dondelelcaro | nvz: ugh. Yeah, not too terribly surprising, unfortunatly. |
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| 01:37.38 | FrozenSpoon | sgeigerbot: 17KB or so every few hours |
| 01:37.39 | IT | Gob, yes |
| 01:37.43 | Dave2|Laptop | kbrooks, ls -lh? du -hs? |
| 01:37.55 | Dave2|Laptop | (h is human-readable) |
| 01:38.01 | Wyzard | iLLPoTaTo: Nope... just uninstall pump if you didn't already, and ifdown/ifup your interface |
| 01:38.03 | kbrooks | ok |
| 01:38.04 | IT | Gob, you might find win32.dll handy though |
| 01:38.10 | astronut | nvz: 21 w/ a 5 year old kid? and you wonder why she doesn't teach her values well? |
| 01:38.17 | Gob | so why in the config files i must set the windows paths ? |
| 01:38.20 | kbrooks | yikes |
| 01:38.21 | sgeigerbot | FrozenSpoon: what? Is this somehow annoying? You meant to say 17Kb (or less) per hour? |
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| 01:38.34 | sgeigerbot | KB...I mean... |
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| 01:38.56 | sgeigerbot | FrozenSpoon: do you think this might be a log file of some sort? |
| 01:39.01 | thecava | hey how do i allow a standard user to play a music cd? |
| 01:39.03 | Gob | to run a windows appZ.. How can I do without installing that appz on windows ? |
| 01:39.08 | manco | anybody here using or have experience using Progeny Debian? |
| 01:39.11 | IT | Gob, wine creates a pretend windows hard disk. usually in your home directory |
| 01:39.20 | iLLPoTaTo | Wyzard: thanks a lot! |
| 01:39.20 | FrozenSpoon | sgeigerbot: I disabled all loggers |
| 01:39.21 | sgeigerbot | FrozenSpoon: What's the context of this "problem"? |
| 01:39.22 | nvz | dondelelcaro: well she primarily lives here with her father and his mother and b/f (my uncle) .. father mostly ignorant, but when he does try to do something its whine for grandma, or mama time.. |
| 01:39.28 | sgeigerbot | FrozenSpoon: why do you care about this? |
| 01:39.43 | nvz | dondelelcaro: and one of them will be there to let her get away with whatever it is she wants |
| 01:40.07 | FrozenSpoon | sgeigerbot: well, I'm running from a solid state disk and don't want to use an initrd. So every write slowly kills my drive. Trying to avoid them if possible |
| 01:40.12 | sgeigerbot | dondelelcaro: I finally saw Cheesy Poofs on The Simpsons. wow...I was excited. (Okay, not really.) |
| 01:40.18 | directhex | Gob, apt-get install wine wine-utils winesetuptk && wine filename.exe |
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| 01:40.42 | dondelelcaro | nvz: yeah, I've seen this situation before... at least children are surprisingly reliant even if their parents are totally screwed up |
| 01:40.42 | astronut | nvz: 21 w/ a 5 year old kid? and you wonder why she doesn't teach her values well? |
| 01:40.44 | astronut | oops |
| 01:40.52 | astronut | didn't mean to repeat myself, wrong tab |
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| 01:41.05 | buffer | Anyone in here have debian on a Gateway 550GR? |
| 01:41.05 | nvz | astronut: I dont know for sure how old she is.. I didnt fuck her |
| 01:41.05 | sgeigerbot | FrozenSpoon: okay...that's a good reason to care. I think I've seen something to fix this problem... |
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| 01:41.20 | Gob | directhex ah thanks.. but where did the windows prog will be installed and how ? |
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| 01:41.53 | nvz | astronut: and like I said its not a matter of values. Adults rasing a child cannot be divided, then the child will disrespect all adults. |
| 01:41.59 | terapatrick | HEY how do i give permissions to use the cdrom to a common user? |
| 01:42.01 | directhex | Gob, to ~/.wine/fake_windows/Program\ Files\Whatever |
| 01:42.01 | Goetmet | I want to write a GTK+ based CD Cataloguer, which it scans for cds and store information about every cd you scan. I know GTK+ and C/C++, but I guess it would be useful to know something more for a project like that.. what should I learn, for example, to store or organizate the data? |
| 01:42.05 | toresbe | What's experimental's name again? |
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| 01:42.12 | nvz | astronut: the child will know that in any situation they can go to someone else and get a different aswer |
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| 01:42.14 | Wyzard | toresbe: It doesn't have a name |
| 01:42.20 | astronut | terapatrick: all users or a group? |
| 01:42.22 | buffer | Is debian pretty decent with SATA drives? I had problems getting the kernel to find my sata drive with Gentoo? |
| 01:42.32 | ml267 | got an xdm question, maybe someone can help. i'm on woody, btw. |
| 01:42.37 | dondelelcaro | buffer: for the most part, yes. But it's purely a function of the kernel. |
| 01:42.39 | FrozenSpoon | sgeigerbot: if I could just figure out what process was doing it I'd fix it -- but I don't know. I haven't installed anything past the base 128MBish install, and actually have trimmed the system down to under 100MB as it is |
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| 01:42.42 | toresbe | Wyzard: I'm pretty sure it does, only it's quite rarely used |
| 01:42.42 | Gob | directhex : thanks a lot.. il'l try it right now ! |
| 01:42.43 | astronut | terapatrick: you can try adding them to 'cdrom' group |
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| 01:42.50 | directhex | buffer, type linux26 at the sarge installer boot prompt |
| 01:42.51 | Wyzard | toresbe: None that I've ever heard of |
| 01:42.56 | sgeigerbot | FrozenSpoon: I'm not sure what the fix was. Perhaps it was that they made the compact flash read-only and then used something like a union mount to make writes go to a ram disk. |
| 01:42.59 | toresbe | Wyzard: It's named after sid's dog |
| 01:43.00 | directhex | buffer, and it's a controller concern, not a disk concern |
| 01:43.01 | ml267 | how do I make xdm start Xserver not as root but as another user, say.. nobody. |
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| 01:43.07 | Wyzard | ah |
| 01:43.19 | Max_Steel | pessoal....nao to conseguindo de jeito nenhum parar o X....oq eu faço? |
| 01:43.20 | FrozenSpoon | union mount? |
| 01:43.21 | toresbe | ?experimental |
| 01:43.28 | Wyzard | ml267: I'm pretty sure X needs to run as root... that's why it's setuid root |
| 01:43.29 | buffer | directhex: I see. Linux26 would use the 2.6 kernel or what? |
| 01:43.33 | toresbe | ~experimental |
| 01:43.34 | apt | well, experimental is If you want to use some certain packages in experimental , you need first a sources.list line of 'deb http://debian.mirror/debian/ ../project/experimental main', then 'Package: *', 'Pin: release a=experimental', 'Pin-Priority: 999' in /etc/apt/preferences. Remember, it's hard to get to for a reason! |
| 01:43.34 | Max_Steel | How I stop the X in debian? |
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| 01:43.53 | stew | isn't 'Pin-Priority: 999' insane? |
| 01:43.53 | directhex | buffer, that's correct, 2.6 has MUCH better SATA support than 2.4 |
| 01:43.55 | terapatrick | astronut, thankyou. |
| 01:44.01 | debian | Max_Steel: CTL_ALT_BACKSPACE |
| 01:44.02 | ml267 | wyzard: but any user can run X, and the applications that display on the server don't have to be run by root |
| 01:44.04 | toresbe | ~names |
| 01:44.08 | debian | Max_Steel: in not so decent way |
| 01:44.12 | toresbe | ~releases |
| 01:44.13 | apt | releases are Look at http://www.debian.org/releases/ ! There is a website for a reason! |
| 01:44.17 | cliechti | i updated my sid system, it's now using udev and my usb mouse stopped working (in X). does somebody have a pointer on where to start debuging that problem? |
| 01:44.20 | nvz | I just know my other cousin has a 10y/o who is a complete bitch.. and rules their household.. is the boss of both parents.. |
| 01:44.21 | stew | isn't the default pin priority of 1 for experimental much much better than 999 in that factoid? |
| 01:44.25 | debian | toresbe: /query dpkg |
| 01:44.28 | nvz | thats what happens when you arent firm with a child |
| 01:44.33 | toresbe | grr. schmartypantsch |
| 01:44.45 | astronut | nvz: my parents weren't too firm....wait...nm |
| 01:44.45 | dondelelcaro | !factinfo experimental |
| 01:44.45 | dpkg | experimental -- last modified at Tue Oct 26 04:46:24 2004 by dondelelcaro!~don@archimedes.ucr.edu; it has been requested 30 times, last by Obilan at Wed Nov 24 11:39:31 2004. |
| 01:44.47 | astronut | lol |
| 01:44.53 | debian | toresbe: for gnomish, please go to #debian-gnome |
| 01:44.55 | MarcN | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:45.05 | astronut | MarcN: that's on efnet |
| 01:45.19 | dondelelcaro | hrm... yeah, that should be priority 1 |
| 01:45.19 | cafuego | oh deary me |
| 01:45.34 | toresbe | debian: It's Dutch. |
| 01:45.35 | Wyzard | ml267: Any user can run X because it's setuid root... and it drops the root privileges once it's started up |
| 01:45.39 | stew | ~expirimental =~ s/999/1/ |
| 01:45.39 | apt | i didn't have anything called 'expirimental' to modify, stew |
| 01:45.46 | nvz | I am just mentioning it cause the child is annoying.. and all she needs is a damn parent |
| 01:45.55 | cafuego | toresbe: What is dutch? |
| 01:45.56 | FrozenSpoon | What is a union mount? Can't find any info on it.... |
| 01:45.56 | MarcN | astronut: I'm joking |
| 01:46.01 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: experimental =~ s/999/1/ |
| 01:46.01 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: that doesn't contain '999' |
| 01:46.03 | stew | ~experimental =~ s/999/1/ |
| 01:46.03 | apt | OK, stew |
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| 01:46.14 | ml267 | Wyzard: right, so I'm trying to figure out how to let xdm start the Xserver in such a way that it can drop back down to nobody |
| 01:46.21 | stew | !experimental |
| 01:46.22 | cire | i compiled a kernel (2.6.8) and disabled a lot of options. When booting, fsck cannot find my hda6 (logical, ext3) partition. What do I need to enable in my kernel options? (other partitions with ext3 are found and work well) |
| 01:46.22 | dpkg | experimental is the bloody edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. |
| 01:46.27 | Max_Steel | nao funcionou |
| 01:46.27 | stew | yay |
| 01:46.34 | Stevie-O | experimental? |
| 01:46.36 | Max_Steel | how I stop the X on debian? |
| 01:46.39 | nvz | kids are fun to visit, but you dont want to live with one.. |
| 01:46.41 | Stevie-O | is that like |
| 01:46.41 | dondelelcaro | stew: ah, I didn't catch that you were asking apt, not dpkg. |
| 01:46.42 | Stevie-O | beyond sid? |
| 01:46.43 | astronut | cire: ext3 suppport perhaps? |
| 01:46.44 | nvz | especially when its not yours |
| 01:46.44 | debian | !tell toresbe about dutch |
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| 01:46.47 | toresbe | cafuego: a language, apparently. Spoikenen in deerer nIieiederlendensen. |
| 01:46.49 | Wyzard | ml267: It'll drop to whoever you log in as |
| 01:46.50 | astronut | nvz: how old are you talking about? |
| 01:47.03 | dondelelcaro | stew: for a bit there, I was trying to figure out why I had said 999... but then, I didn't say 999. ;-) |
| 01:47.05 | arestheimpaler | anyone having problems with XKB in sid? |
| 01:47.05 | resiak | Max_Steel: /etc/init.d/?dm stop (as root) |
| 01:47.12 | toresbe | debian: Will you please stfu? |
| 01:47.20 | cafuego | toresbe: Yes I know, but it's completely unlike your stange germanified english. |
| 01:47.21 | nvz | astronut: eh? |
| 01:47.23 | debian | cafuego: what people speak dutch btw? |
| 01:47.27 | astronut | nvz: define kid |
| 01:47.30 | astronut | up to how old? |
| 01:47.33 | astronut | for the no fun? |
| 01:47.33 | cafuego | debian: I do, for one. |
| 01:47.36 | stew | dondelelcaro: oh, heh, i didn't catch that you pulled factinfo from dpkg, i was suprised that you were the last to alter it :) |
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| 01:47.42 | cire | astronut: as I told before, other partitions with ext3 work |
| 01:47.44 | debian | cafuego: I mean. what country. |
| 01:47.45 | sgeigerbot | debian: sussudio, too |
| 01:47.45 | yhg | arestheimpaler: what kind of problems? |
| 01:47.46 | dondelelcaro | ~factinfo experimental |
| 01:47.46 | apt | experimental -- last modified at Mon Oct 6 08:51:50 2003 by pme!1000@adsl-67-39-21-13.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net; it has been requested 291 times, last by toresbe, 4m 12s ago. |
| 01:47.48 | astronut | cire: oh... |
| 01:47.50 | nvz | astronut: heh I dont know.. they definatly start loosing the fun at about 12 |
| 01:47.54 | sgeigerbot | etter |
| 01:47.58 | astronut | loosing? |
| 01:47.59 | nvz | astronut: my brother is 14.. hes a PITA |
| 01:47.59 | debian | toresbe: I'll if you please do |
| 01:48.00 | arestheimpaler | I cant get us_int |
| 01:48.02 | astronut | oh |
| 01:48.02 | toresbe | debian: Belgians, Netherlands, me and sussudio |
| 01:48.02 | astronut | lol |
| 01:48.05 | astronut | hmmphh |
| 01:48.08 | astronut | i'm 16 :-P |
| 01:48.09 | cafuego | debian: Dutch is spoken in The Netherlands, parts of belgium, pockets of South Africa and by some elderly indonesians. |
| 01:48.12 | debian | toresbe: thanks |
| 01:48.20 | stew | dondelelcaro: hrm, shouldn't that be last modified by me? |
| 01:48.22 | cafuego | debian: ... and a few islands off the coast of Venezuela. |
| 01:48.22 | lapdog | Has anyone ever installed debian on a ancient tecra? |
| 01:48.23 | ml267 | Wyzard: hmm... any x application that I run after I log in are under my user, true, but... |
| 01:48.24 | debian | cafuego: I see... |
| 01:48.25 | MarcN | nvz: my oldest is 13. not usually a PITA |
| 01:48.32 | dondelelcaro | stew: the factoid modification is a bit broken, unfortunatly... |
| 01:48.34 | terapatrick | astronut: i added the user to the group 'cdrom' but still when i try to play a music cdrom i get 'drive error' (gnome cd player) |
| 01:48.37 | nvz | astronut: he /msg'd me the other day with like 15 lines of mysql errors, I told him to take his ass to #mysql ffs. |
| 01:48.37 | yhg | arestheimpaler: hmm, not like that, no. |
| 01:48.40 | toresbe | MarcN: How often do you beat them? |
| 01:48.40 | ml267 | Wyzard: the Xserver is still identified as root's X server |
| 01:48.41 | cire | I think my problem is hda6 being a logical partition. What kernel options do I need for logical partition support? |
| 01:48.43 | zignig | cafuego: all really stoned people revert to talking dutch. ( or is that remalakian ) |
| 01:48.48 | astronut | terapatrick: ls -alF /dev/cdrom[whatever] |
| 01:48.50 | Wyzard | ml267: What's wrong with that? |
| 01:48.50 | astronut | what's it say? |
| 01:48.51 | debian | cafuego: woo, so detail. :) |
| 01:48.55 | cafuego | zignig: blow my joint, man |
| 01:48.56 | toresbe | MarcN: I'm asking for CHRIST, the lord and JeeesSUS |
| 01:49.08 | arestheimpaler | yhg: what do you mean not like that? |
| 01:49.10 | FrozenSpoon | ahhh mount_union, very interesting idea sgeigerbot |
| 01:49.11 | mca | hmm... when i play an audio cd in my cdrom drive, i get no audio through the computer's speakers |
| 01:49.15 | terapatrick | astronut: it's a link to /dev/hdb |
| 01:49.15 | MarcN | toresbe: apparently not enough (the other 5 kids demand time too.) |
| 01:49.21 | astronut | terapatrick: ah |
| 01:49.24 | sgeigerbot | FrozenSpoon: thanks |
| 01:49.27 | ml267 | Wyzard: when I start X server from a user account as opposed to xdm, it is identified as user's x server |
| 01:49.30 | mca | but i do get audio if i plug a pair of headphones into the jack on the front of the cdrom |
| 01:49.31 | terapatrick | brw-rw----- |
| 01:49.32 | MarcN | toresbe: we have 6 kids, but amazingly we arent' fundies. |
| 01:49.35 | yhg | arestheimpaler: Well I have weird keyboard stuff that's probably just because I did something stupid, but no problems like that. |
| 01:49.42 | mca | anyone have any idea why this might be happening? |
| 01:49.47 | nvz | I've been trying to put my brother on to linux to start learning something for years.. and he still thinks I am crazy and he knows everything.. yet he always has questions relating to linux about his web server.. and doesnt realize that linux is all around him, he just wont open his eyes |
| 01:50.01 | Gob | directhex : Does WinXP is suported by wine ? |
| 01:50.06 | ml267 | Wyzard: I'm just afraid that there's some possible exploit because X continues to run with root uid |
| 01:50.11 | debian | mca: you haven't connect the audio cable taht (might be) come with your cdrom drive |
| 01:50.11 | astronut | brw-rw-rw- 2 root cdrom 22, 0 Mar 14 2002 /dev/cdrom0 |
| 01:50.12 | astronut | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 64 Mar 14 2002 /dev/hdb |
| 01:50.17 | buffer | directhex: I see. Do you have any idea what driver I would need for a Intel(R) 82801FB Ultra ATA Storage Controller, I thought it was ata_piix but it didn't like it. |
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| 01:50.23 | ml267 | Wyzard: when it's started from xdm |
| 01:50.24 | arestheimpaler | yhg: do you get an error message that says "Error activating XKB configuration. Probably Internal X server problem"?" |
| 01:50.26 | astronut | wait |
| 01:50.35 | mca | debian: do you know what it looks like? |
| 01:50.37 | astronut | ah hah |
| 01:50.37 | nvz | so I make him keep in touch with me using a multi-messenger like gaim, and make him come on freenode, and be resourceful when he asks me questions |
| 01:50.40 | astronut | muted at mixer |
| 01:50.43 | sgeigerbot | Gob: what do you want to do? Run WinXP inside wine? You should check into vmware if you want to run an entire OS under linux. |
| 01:50.46 | yhg | mca: The problem is ALSA is broken. The headphone jack is generally wired straight to the CD-ROM and doesn't actually go through any software. |
| 01:50.53 | directhex | Gob, edit ~/.wine/config, change "Windows" = "win98" |
| 01:50.54 | terapatrick | astronut: not that i dont get output, i get the message 'drive error' |
| 01:50.55 | debian | mca: like a 2-4 jumper socket at both end |
| 01:51.00 | FrozenSpoon | I suppsoe /var is most likely where I'm seeing most writes |
| 01:51.03 | mca | yhg: i'm using OSS |
| 01:51.04 | MarcN | Gob: or look at qemu |
| 01:51.06 | Wyzard | Gob: Wine is for running applications, not an entire OS |
| 01:51.06 | directhex | Gob, though wine is much more centered towards win98 than xp |
| 01:51.10 | astronut | terapatrick: can you do it as root? |
| 01:51.16 | sgeigerbot | MarcN: have you had luck with qemu? |
| 01:51.21 | yhg | mca: Then OSS is broken. |
| 01:51.23 | terapatrick | astronut: hold on .. is there any console app to do it? |
| 01:51.27 | debian | mca: one connect to the back of your cdrom and the other on your audio card |
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| 01:51.29 | terapatrick | astronut: cause i hate all this fancy gtk shit |
| 01:51.32 | yhg | arestheimpaler: Nope |
| 01:51.33 | terapatrick | astronut: :) |
| 01:51.33 | directhex | i had qemu working fine, though beos wouldn't boot |
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| 01:51.35 | astronut | terapatrick: cdplay |
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| 01:51.40 | terapatrick | astronut: thx |
| 01:51.46 | mca | debian: alright, i guess i'll have to take it apart and check for that - thanks |
| 01:51.58 | MarcN | sgeigerbot: I''ve got it working just fine. I have qemu 'disks' for ubuntu, winxp, win98 |
| 01:52.06 | debian | mca: don't feel bad about it. 80% people just throw it away. |
| 01:52.10 | MarcN | sgeigerbot: on my debian/sarge box |
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| 01:52.26 | mca | debian: that's probably what happened |
| 01:52.32 | MarcN | sgeigerbot: even have the net working and routing through the host |
| 01:52.33 | debian | mca: :) |
| 01:52.34 | buffer | directhex: any idea? |
| 01:53.00 | Gob | directhex : i would like to run a DJ Mixing Console thats runs under XP (Atomix MP3 if you know) .. if there are not a linux verssion of course ..lol |
| 01:53.13 | directhex | buffer, sorry, i don't know |
| 01:53.16 | bluefox83 | who is debian? |
| 01:53.20 | buffer | np |
| 01:53.30 | Wyzard | bluefox83: "who" ? |
| 01:53.56 | Wyzard | bluefox83: The name comes from Ian Murdock (the founder) and his wife Debra, if that's what you mean |
| 01:53.58 | bluefox83 | yeah, the person with that nick O.o |
| 01:54.03 | Wyzard | ah |
| 01:54.08 | Wyzard | dunno then |
| 01:54.18 | soften | who's on irc |
| 01:54.24 | cire | please... Doesn't anybody know the kernel options (2.6.8) for logical partiton support? I've tried for hours now. |
| 01:54.36 | debian | soften: I'm not |
| 01:54.41 | cliechti | ok. i solved the problem. /dev/input is missing with udev, but /dev/mice works. is /dev/input not there on pupose? |
| 01:55.03 | Wyzard | cliechti: see bug #283758 |
| 01:55.07 | Gob | Someone knows if there ate a IRC channel on the multimedia ans music programs on this irc server ? Please !! |
| 01:55.08 | soften | cire: if you ask a good question and someone knows, they will likely answer. if not, then not. no need to beg or cry fatigue |
| 01:55.11 | yhg | Having a weird problem with samba that's really a gnome issue... when I mount a samba share with mount at the command line it pops up in the "Computer" thing in Nautilus, which is nice, but when I go to unmount it it says that the device is in use, because apparently Nautilus is using it. So I can't unmount the share while gnome is running. |
| 01:55.20 | Wyzard | cliechti: cd /etc/udev/rules.d; ln -s ../udev.rules . |
| 01:55.41 | yhg | cire: Define 'logical paritition support'? You shouldn't need any special options. |
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| 01:56.14 | loocek | hi! what is happening with xterms in kde 3.2.3 (xterm, konsole, gnome-console)? I mean...every have the same bug....when I type a long long command - it stays in the same line!! ...and smear itself :( |
| 01:56.17 | dark_light | how can i edit the default font size of gtk programs? |
| 01:56.24 | cire | soften: That's okay and I have to accept it. But sometimes asking a second time brought a good answer. Sorry it this behaviour isn't accepted in here. |
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| 01:56.28 | cliechti | Wyzard: thank you very much :-) |
| 01:56.33 | debian | yhq: are you risking taking type? YOu can kill process that hold up the mounted drive but it's risky |
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| 01:56.50 | dark_light | preferencially a edit that modify the default font size on all window managers (icewm, gnome, etc) |
| 01:56.54 | soften | cire, it's accepted just fine :) didn' t mean to come across as negative. just didn't know the answer to your question and wanted to help you ask it |
| 01:56.54 | dark_light | modify* |
| 01:57.08 | FrozenSpoon | okay... how on earth do I get union filesystem support?? "mount: fs type union not supported by kernel" |
| 01:57.17 | terapatrick | astronut: hmm even as root it says there are no mixer devices detected (when i try to increase the volume) |
| 01:57.38 | yhg | debian: Well yeah but I don't want to do that every time. It seems like there must be a simple way to do it cleanly. |
| 01:57.39 | FrozenSpoon | OpenBSD seems to support it |
| 01:57.52 | IT | dark_light, vim /$HOME/.gtkkrc-2.0 and change the font size in there |
| 01:57.54 | iceman | yea, I know union |
| 01:57.56 | lapdog | How do I set up a ancient Tecra |
| 01:58.09 | iceman | it's like mount_null but merges the content |
| 01:58.15 | nvz | lapdog: older than a 510? |
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| 01:58.23 | Wyzard | FrozenSpoon: Oh, that... that's not a filesytem, it's a mount option for mounting a filesystem without "hiding" the former contents of the mountpoint |
| 01:58.25 | yhg | debian: Besides, killing random gnome processes until I find the one that frees up the share isn't any better than killing gnome so I can unmount it. |
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| 01:58.29 | Wyzard | FrozenSpoon: AFAIK, Linux can't do it |
| 01:58.29 | cire | yhg: I have a logical partition containing ext3 fs. It's my /home. When I boot my new kernel, everything seems to work, until fsck tries to check my hda6 partition, which is the only logical one. I get an error like fsck cannot find my hda6, either bad superblock or superblock messed up |
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| 01:58.47 | lapdog | nvz 780CDM |
| 01:58.48 | MarcN | yhg: sudo lsof|grep mountpoint |
| 01:58.52 | nvz | lapdog: I just pitched my 510 not long ago.. figured I would never fix it |
| 01:58.59 | FrozenSpoon | "Linux can't do it" no way? |
| 01:59.12 | Wyzard | FrozenSpoon: Not that I've heard of |
| 01:59.41 | ml267 | FrozonSpoon: man mount, see if the fs is supported |
| 01:59.54 | yhg | cire: That probably means that the partition is messed up. I've never encountered linux having a problem doing anything with logical partitions. |
| 02:00.06 | FrozenSpoon | there's not even a kernel option for it as far as I can tell |
| 02:00.06 | lapdog | nvz Its pentium II |
| 02:00.08 | Bsd_NoOb | Is GenericSoftk56 a winmodem ? |
| 02:00.10 | cire | yhg: selecting the original kernel works fine |
| 02:00.24 | soften | Bsd_NoOb, yes, that's a winmodem |
| 02:00.24 | nvz | the backlight went out on it.. then I took it apart and used it for awhile as a desktop.. then it wouldnt turn on.. could have been power supply, but I figure it was a power switch or something inbetween.. didnt seem worth fixing. |
| 02:00.31 | Bsd_NoOb | thanx |
| 02:00.31 | yhg | cire: hmm. Did you compile the new one yourself? |
| 02:00.40 | cire | yes |
| 02:00.59 | lapdog | nvz cool. |
| 02:01.03 | nvz | it had 6 clock batteries in it |
| 02:01.24 | nvz | stranges thing I ever seen |
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| 02:01.39 | yhg | cire: Then you'll probably need to redo it. Is this the only partition with ext3? You might not have compiled ext3 support in (or as a module - but don't do that). |
| 02:01.51 | FrozenSpoon | Looks like union mounts are post 2.6 |
| 02:01.55 | mca | yhg: try lsof|grep $dirname |
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| 02:02.09 | nvz | 4 in one strip plugged in to the mobo, and two in another plugged in to a diff socket.. they were all just sitting there on the little front bridge card |
| 02:02.13 | lapdog | nvz What module do you use for the pointer type mouse? |
| 02:02.20 | cire | yhg: other ext3 partitions DO work. |
| 02:02.40 | yhg | Finding exactly what's using it and killing it is not really what I want to do. |
| 02:02.48 | nvz | lapdog: ps2 probably.. which would be mousedev.. you could also use input in a 2.6 kernel, as it will map /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice |
| 02:02.59 | yhg | There must be some way to tell gnome to let go so I can do it cleanly. |
| 02:03.07 | lapdog | nvz thanks. |
| 02:03.26 | mca | yhg: no doubt some setting deep within the bowels of gconf |
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| 02:03.42 | yhg | cire: Then there's probably a logical partition support option that you missed. It will probably need to be compiled in, too, so you can't just load the module. |
| 02:04.00 | yhg | cire: I don't know, though - I've never had anything but horrible experiences with compiling my own kernels. |
| 02:04.05 | nvz | I never really gave it much thought.. but thinking back 6 clock batteries is pretty weird |
| 02:04.11 | genixpro | I installed sarge. I had xp on my system before hand. It was only on 16 gb parition, on a 200 gb harddrive. I installed sarge, and xp stopped working. It gives me an UnMOUNTABLE BOOT PARTITION error now. |
| 02:04.12 | cire | yhg: ...and that option am I trying to find for hours now ;) |
| 02:04.14 | buffer | How many of the debian iso's does one need to do an install? |
| 02:04.31 | terapatrick | when i run a mixer app it says that i have no mixer device. any idea? |
| 02:04.34 | FrozenSpoon | so back to plan A: is there any tool to monitor disk writes and report what process did it? |
| 02:04.36 | Wyzard | If my lspci says "Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03)", that does mean the system supports ACPI, right? |
| 02:04.37 | lapdog | nvz It says its using I400 something but I cant find it when configuing X so I am using VGA is that correct? |
| 02:04.40 | soften | buffer, zero or more |
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| 02:04.43 | terapatrick | i have a sblive card with the emu10k1 module loaded. |
| 02:04.57 | buffer | soften: good one. |
| 02:04.57 | yhg | buffer: Of the 7 or however many set, just the first one, but the preferred way is to use the netinstall cd if you can. |
| 02:05.12 | dark_light | IT thanks. but, why the gnome's gtk defaults seems to be different from the gtk defaults of others window managers? |
| 02:05.14 | soften | but if you decide to use isos, I personally like the 100mb netinstall |
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| 02:05.26 | buffer | netinstall? |
| 02:05.27 | nvz | lapdog: what says this? lspci? could you paste the whole VGA line from lspci here? |
| 02:05.31 | buffer | just a network install disk? |
| 02:05.35 | cire | yhg: compiling my own kernel gives me a good feeling. I can decide what shall be included, and what I do not need. The problem seems to be, that I do not always know, what I need and what isn't neccessary |
| 02:06.02 | soften | buffer - yes, it's a 100mb iso image containing base debian - then it downloads packages that you select to install. only downloading what you want is much faster than downloading everything. |
| 02:06.12 | yhg | cire: Yeah. It's all warm and fuzzy and shit but there's always some vital thing that you skipped because it sounded like gibberish... |
| 02:06.21 | buffer | soften: right on. thanks. |
| 02:06.24 | nvz | onboard vga is normally 0000:00:07.5 isnt it? |
| 02:06.31 | lapdog | nvz lspci.. I need to boot it up to see output. |
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| 02:06.35 | Wyzard | yhg: Once you do it a few times and get to know the options, that's no longer a problem |
| 02:06.44 | nvz | lapdog: oh you dont have it running? |
| 02:06.45 | directhex | nvz, entirely depends on the motherboard |
| 02:06.50 | nvz | directhex: I am sure it does |
| 02:07.00 | waxmop | hi -- i just ran apt-get install gnome, now how do i set up gnome to be my window mgr when i connect via X? |
| 02:07.13 | nvz | directhex: my PCI card is a 8.0.. I am used to seeing it on 7.5 I think |
| 02:07.17 | Gob | Where I can find a irc channel witch treats about Music , MP3 and mixing .. on Linux ! please help me ! |
| 02:07.19 | yhg | Wyzard: Yeah, I'm not saying it's impossible. It just takes some dedication when you're as prone to stupid shit as I am. ;) |
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| 02:08.28 | Stevie-O | the other night |
| 02:08.30 | Scrlk | Ok i am back sorry .. :) where could i paste something so someone can see if i have my table setup correctly ? |
| 02:08.31 | Stevie-O | I did the driving school |
| 02:08.34 | Wyzard | nvz: They added fire trucks? |
| 02:08.34 | FrozenSpoon | What would be the side effect of nuking /var/cache/apt/*? Especially this pkgcache.bin file? |
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| 02:08.48 | yhg | Scrlk: #flood |
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| 02:08.52 | nvz | Wyzard: why I thought the original GTA had firetrucks? |
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| 02:08.56 | soften | scrlk try either at 222.pastebin.com or in channel #flood |
| 02:08.57 | dondelelcaro | FrozenSpoon: not much... but you probably want to use apt-get autoclean; or apt-get clean; for that |
| 02:08.58 | Stevie-O | I got so fed up with it |
| 02:09.01 | lapdog | nvz Intel 440bx...hotplug |
| 02:09.04 | soften | er, no, 222 should read "www" |
| 02:09.06 | Stevie-O | I started shooting up everything |
| 02:09.16 | Wyzard | FrozenSpoon: pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin are where "apt-get update" write to, I believe |
| 02:09.23 | nvz | Wyzard: GTA-SA is pretty good.. I like it alot.. and I didnt care for the others other than casual just blowing shit up and it got old pretty quick. |
| 02:09.25 | Wyzard | FrozenSpoon: archives/ is where "apt-get install" puts the deb files |
| 02:09.33 | rainfever | /join #help |
| 02:09.34 | Scrlk | coudl somone take a look at it? |
| 02:09.40 | Wyzard | nvz: I've only played GTA3, and it has ambulances but no fire trucks |
| 02:09.52 | Scrlk | i did it in flood |
| 02:10.11 | Wyzard | nvz: The ambulances are fun because you can kill one of the medics and the other will revive him... keep doing it as long as you want |
| 02:10.11 | nvz | lapdog: you should try vesa if you just want to get right into X.. usually works for most things.. its non-accellerated. |
| 02:10.33 | Gob | can I repeat please ? |
| 02:10.43 | Gob | ===> Where I can find a irc channel witch treats about Music , MP3 and mixing .. on Linux ! please help me ! |
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| 02:11.08 | nvz | Wyzard: well I've been just walking to neighboring hoods and covertly whacking hookers and rival gang members for ammo and cash.. but Vigilante Fire missions pay well |
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| 02:11.40 | soften | looks right to me Scrlk |
| 02:11.54 | nvz | Wyzard: there are lots of new elements in this one.. like working out to gain stamina which makes you run, cycle, and swim better.. and yes you can ride bicycles and swim in this one |
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| 02:12.10 | Scrlk | then how come my windows machine behind the linux router can't ping the first router ? |
| 02:12.19 | Scrlk | just the linux router |
| 02:12.27 | Wyzard | nvz: Swimming cool... instantly drowning when you touch water in GTA3 gets kinda dull |
| 02:12.32 | zignig | Scrlk: firewall ? |
| 02:12.37 | dark_light | IT hello? |
| 02:12.38 | nvz | Wyzard: being able to rob houses at night.. being able to customize cars with paint, grafix, hydrolics, nitrous, nice stereos.. and it has a great soundtrack |
| 02:12.47 | soften | Scrlk, I do not know the answer to your question. All I can see is your routing table, which appears to be correct based on what you told me about your network. |
| 02:12.49 | lapdog | nvz lspci: VGA compatible controller: S3Inc. ViRGE/MX |
| 02:13.14 | soften | perhaps on the windows box type "ipconfig" and see what it is using for ip address, netmask, gateway, nameserver, etc. |
| 02:13.19 | Wyzard | nvz: Unfortunately I don't own any game consoles nor have much time to play games, and I no longer live with roommates who do :-/ |
| 02:13.29 | nvz | lapdog: use the s3Virge driver and see how it goes.. I use it here.. this box has an Intel PIIX4, with a S3 Virge/DX |
| 02:14.01 | lapdog | nvz THANKS! :)~ |
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| 02:14.30 | WiFiTux | what was the command or echo to send to sleep |
| 02:14.55 | nvz | Wyzard: yeah.. well my cousin now has an xbox and a slim ps2.. I built shelves into the cabinet below the tv, and installed an exaust fan, and this PIIX, and now got the 21" Monitor w/ wireless key/mouse and the 23" TV above the cabinet ;) the audio from the TV goes through the PC for mixing to additional speakers |
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| 02:15.10 | Scrlk | soften you know what i am tring to do right? about the 2 network cards i dont know if you were here before when i explain the network |
| 02:15.17 | nvz | Wyzard: problem is we only own two games.. NFL 2k5 and GTA-SA.. he keeps trading them in and shit.. |
| 02:15.35 | nvz | Wyzard: and he normally plays shitty games.. this is the first game I have played |
| 02:15.38 | soften | Scrlk, yes, I was here when you explained. |
| 02:16.01 | Scrlk | ok i am about to paste the ipconfig in flood in a minute.. woudl you mind check that out? |
| 02:16.06 | nvz | Wyzard: he's at walmart getting another conrtoller so we can see how the 2player mode goes |
| 02:16.18 | Wyzard | hehe |
| 02:16.37 | damnsmall490 | i still have my problem. i upgraded my sarge distribution and i get error which says: Kernel attempted to kill init |
| 02:16.42 | nvz | Wyzard: they have 2player (and I heard rumors 4 but the game doesnt indicate it) in GTA-SA |
| 02:16.44 | damnsmall490 | how do i solve this? |
| 02:16.52 | Wyzard | sounds cool |
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| 02:17.00 | damnsmall490 | i've tried with a live cd, but the kernel isn't in /boo anymore |
| 02:17.22 | nvz | Wyzard: yeah takes me back to childhood feel like a deliquent again |
| 02:17.23 | damnsmall490 | actually now i'm using damnsmalllinux livecd |
| 02:17.42 | WiFiTux | what was the command or echo to send to sleep or s modes? |
| 02:17.49 | justin | damnsmall490: write down the error. |
| 02:17.57 | heinrich | that was it |
| 02:18.16 | heinrich | no other errors before that |
| 02:18.30 | heinrich | it just says that and stops loading the kernel |
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| 02:18.39 | justin | heinrich: then go write down what it says before that |
| 02:18.40 | nvz | Wyzard: getting rid of wanted level is easier.. you have the stars on the map you can get, or goto your house.. or a safe house you can buy them all across the map.. plus you can get your hair cut or buy new clothes.. etc |
| 02:18.46 | Scrlk | the windows machine does not hae a default gateway right now |
| 02:19.12 | Aj` | hi , does anyone know if debian supports usb wireless devices ? mainly wusb11 v2.8 ? |
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| 02:19.18 | cliechti | (gnome-)iango does not start when it misses the tile pixmap file (fails silently when run from menu) |
| 02:19.50 | jamesdent | Hey, I've got this kernal module I've compiled for lazyfs. Does anyone know how I should go about loading it into the kernal? |
| 02:19.50 | heinrich | ok... if it helps...but can't i just rebuild the kernel with somekind of livecd? |
| 02:20.11 | justin | heinrich: you could _reinstall_ the kernel with the livecd |
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| 02:20.29 | heinrich | does debian have a livecd? |
| 02:20.40 | heinrich | could you please give more details? |
| 02:20.43 | justin | heinrich: what is wrong with the one you are currently using? |
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| 02:21.03 | heinrich | it doesn't load |
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| 02:21.16 | heinrich | in this moment i'm running a live cd |
| 02:21.28 | justin | whatever "doesn't load" means |
| 02:21.36 | heinrich | but the kernel from the hdd won't start |
| 02:21.47 | justin | you said that already |
| 02:22.06 | heinrich | it recognizes the hdd partitions, and then it returns the msg i wrote above |
| 02:22.59 | heinrich | and the kernel before this one was deleted by the script which installed the newer version |
| 02:23.09 | heinrich | i used apt-get upgrade |
| 02:23.37 | Scrlk | ok i just pasted what my win machien has.. coudl you take a look at it? |
| 02:24.17 | kbrooks | does anyone here use GNOME? |
| 02:24.33 | kbrooks | How do I get the applications menu back? |
| 02:24.34 | Wyzard | kbrooks: I do |
| 02:24.39 | heinrich | so...any ideeas? or could you tell how to reinstall the kernel using a live cd? |
| 02:24.46 | Wyzard | kbrooks: Right-click on the panel and pick "add to panel" |
| 02:25.01 | kbrooks | then? |
| 02:25.29 | Wyzard | kbrooks: It's in that list somewhere |
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| 02:25.47 | heinrich | justin...are you still there? |
| 02:25.49 | nvz | oh well.. I got a firetruck.. but the police blew it up.. |
| 02:25.57 | Wyzard | lol |
| 02:26.02 | heinrich | or anyone |
| 02:26.07 | nvz | if at first you dont succeed.. blow more shit up |
| 02:26.08 | Scrlk | so any idea soften? |
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| 02:26.34 | soften | scrlk it's trial and error. use ping and traceroute to see where your packets are going, figure out where they aren't making it, look for reasons why |
| 02:27.12 | Scrlk | ok.. thanks for the info bro.. :) mind if i ask you again when i get some resolts? |
| 02:27.13 | nvz | its hard to cause a fire involving more than your car without geting wanted by the police.. but if you can make the accident happen you can steal a firetuck without any police around and be able to do firefighting without being chaced by the police |
| 02:27.33 | soften | scrlk if I am around I'll try to answer. |
| 02:27.48 | justin | heinrich: mount drive, chroot, install kernel |
| 02:28.24 | Scrlk | i did a trace route on the laptop to 192.168.1.1 and its going in to the linux box on 192.168.1.10 and out to 192.168.1.1. It took 30 hops so it seems like its working with the static gateway |
| 02:28.40 | Scrlk | blah 2 hops |
| 02:28.43 | Scrlk | not 30 :) |
| 02:28.45 | heinrich | justin...a mount the / partition |
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| 02:28.52 | Scrlk | my roomate is smoking the good weed |
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| 02:29.17 | heinrich | justin...i mounted the / partition |
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| 02:29.23 | heinrich | now what? |
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| 02:29.50 | Scrlk | soften ignre what i said let me him up and take over that computer ;0 |
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| 02:30.41 | daft | heinrich install the kernel? |
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| 02:31.03 | heinrich | how do |
| 02:31.07 | heinrich | how do i solve this? |
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| 02:31.35 | daft | eummm let me 1st read back |
| 02:31.40 | heinrich | does debian have a live cd? |
| 02:31.55 | heinrich | or a recovery cd? or something? |
| 02:32.32 | heinrich | ok daft. thanks |
| 02:32.43 | daft | the normal install cd is also a recovery cd |
| 02:32.54 | heinrich | i used the network install cd |
| 02:32.58 | heinrich | for sarge |
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| 02:33.14 | heinrich | i don't know how to use it as a recovery cd |
| 02:33.16 | tom_ | hi |
| 02:33.17 | daft | if the cd boots what do you see |
| 02:33.30 | tom_ | clear |
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| 02:33.34 | tom_ | clear |
| 02:33.50 | sorahn | i have debian sarge on running GNOME as the default display manager. i installed enlightenment (apt-get) and now i am trying to get it on the session menu so i can actively change between it and gnome. i have read on websites that i just need to ad a file to the /gdm/Sessions folder but that folder is nowhere to be seen on my computer other then the one that i created. |
| 02:33.55 | heinrich | Press F1 to see more options(or something like that) |
| 02:34.03 | daft | heinrich: if you press F3 you see boot options |
| 02:34.08 | heinrich | anyes |
| 02:34.10 | heinrich | exactly |
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| 02:34.35 | tanku | hey would i be able to get some help im sitting at a command line running irc |
| 02:34.35 | heinrich | yes |
| 02:34.57 | bluefox83 | tanku, whats the problem? |
| 02:35.11 | heinrich | but it doesn't say anything about kernel recover |
| 02:35.14 | daft | heidaro: select your resque kernel and after that type root = /dev/(root partiton) |
| 02:35.17 | heinrich | or install |
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| 02:35.33 | tanku | im trying to install the nvidia driver because the nv doest work with my fx5200 |
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| 02:35.43 | Scrlk | ok when i ping my linux router and my dlink router it pings fine.. 2 hops to my dlink. but when i ping a webpage that i know its up it says tha tht ehost is unreachble |
| 02:36.04 | Goetmet | Scrlk : set you DNS |
| 02:36.05 | heinrich | from where do i select it? |
| 02:36.14 | Scrlk | where? |
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| 02:36.24 | Goetmet | Scrlk : /etc/resolv.host |
| 02:36.28 | daft | tanku: get the nvidia source extract it and a make-dpkg modules would make the nvidia module |
| 02:36.30 | bluefox83 | tanku, did you download the nvidia driver? |
| 02:36.36 | Goetmet | you must put your ISP's DNS there |
| 02:36.49 | daft | heinrich: you need to type it |
| 02:36.51 | waxmop | in gnome2, how to start the gnome1 control panel? all my fonts for gnucash are supertiny/ |
| 02:36.51 | tanku | yes |
| 02:37.01 | Scrlk | they are setup to charters dns |
| 02:37.05 | heinrich | daft: from where do i select it. presuming i'm having that F3 screen in front of me...what do i do? :) |
| 02:37.05 | bluefox83 | tanku, do what daft said |
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| 02:38.07 | kbrooks | How do I get the applications menu back? the menu with the time |
| 02:38.20 | daft | heinrich: you see a list of boot options some are rescue (pick one) type you chosen resque kernel and after that type root=<your root> [enter] |
| 02:38.22 | kbrooks | i got the foot back |
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| 02:38.29 | Scrlk | they are setup like they suppost to be |
| 02:38.37 | Wyzard | kbrooks: I just told you a few minutes ago how to add stuff to the panel |
| 02:38.45 | Scrlk | my linux box can see out.. but my windows box can only see out to the dlink rounder |
| 02:38.45 | kbrooks | Wyzard, i'll look. |
| 02:38.51 | heinrich | that's it...there are no rescue options on the netinstall cd |
| 02:39.09 | Wyzard | hmm |
| 02:39.12 | cire | The exact error was: "fsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda6...". I typed in my root-pwd (instead of pressing ctrl-d) and tried to mount my hda6 - successfully. |
| 02:39.16 | kbrooks | Wyzard, xchat does not let me scroll back to when i joined |
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| 02:39.24 | Wyzard | Deactivating swap...umount: none busy - remounted read-only |
| 02:39.27 | Wyzard | Segmentation fault |
| 02:39.40 | daft | heinrich: you shure there are there since potato |
| 02:39.42 | peterS | Wyzard: duh, you got a segmentation fault |
| 02:39.54 | Scrlk | Soften any clue bro? |
| 02:39.57 | Wyzard | kbrooks: Right-click on the panel and pick "add to panel"... it shouldn't be hard to remember, without needing to scroll back |
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| 02:40.10 | soften | scrlk, not really. the d-link should take it from there |
| 02:40.11 | sorahn | does anyone know anything about adding entries to the session menu for gdm |
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| 02:40.30 | Wyzard | peterS: Well, yeah, but this is while shutting down... and I booted up again and immediately shut down and it happened again, so it's not a hung process or something |
| 02:40.48 | peterS | Wyzard: I was kidding ... you wondered what had happened, I said "it was a seg fault" (: |
| 02:41.00 | BeetleJuice | hi! |
| 02:41.09 | Wyzard | I know |
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| 02:41.49 | Guerin | kbrooks: use a real irc client, then |
| 02:42.46 | daft | Guerin: xchat is a real irc client it isnt hacked or some thing to do irc chats |
| 02:42.56 | kbrooks | Guerin, i just reformatted my computer. |
| 02:43.18 | daft | kbrooks: good for you |
| 02:43.22 | Guerin | daft: hahaha |
| 02:43.31 | dondelelcaro | it's closer to being a real IRC client than bitchX, but it hasn't quite made it. |
| 02:43.43 | httpdss | i have a toshiba mk4018gas disk and cant get the DMA working .. the hdparm says hdio_set_dma failed: operation not permitted |
| 02:43.46 | kbrooks | daft, a irc client which does not allow me to scroll back to when i joined is not a real irc client |
| 02:43.53 | Guerin | kbrooks: so how come you already have X and gtk installed if you haven't yet had time to get a real irc client? |
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| 02:44.14 | kbrooks | Guerin, i have gnome meh |
| 02:44.15 | Guerin | httpdss: are you root? |
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| 02:44.24 | httpdss | yes .. |
| 02:44.32 | Guerin | kbrooks: irssi-text doesn't require gnome... |
| 02:44.36 | httpdss | Guerin: yes |
| 02:44.38 | cire | google found some people having the same problem. One said, he used "append="devfs=nomount" in lilo.conf, which made it work. What is this option doing? |
| 02:45.29 | kbrooks | Guerin, OK. |
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| 02:45.50 | Wyzard | cire: It prevents devfs from mounting itself on /dev... devfs uses a different naming scheme for devices, so /dev/hda6 doesn't exist |
| 02:46.18 | kbrooks | for fucks sake |
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| 02:47.11 | cire | Wyzard: in this case, hda1 also shouldn't be accessible? |
| 02:47.44 | Wyzard | cire: There'll be no device file named "hda" in /dev |
| 02:47.55 | Wyzard | nor "hda1" |
| 02:48.17 | Wyzard | That's not the same as not supporting the device |
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| 02:49.16 | sword- | anyone here ever installed debain using sata drives? |
| 02:49.18 | sword- | i want to do a raid 0 |
| 02:50.26 | Scrlk | i want to cry!!! |
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| 02:50.52 | soften | perhaps they fear that the truck will be stolen |
| 02:51.17 | nostrumuva | deb kicks %&* |
| 02:51.24 | Guerin | nvz: you need to blow up BMWs, not ratty-ass old toyotas |
| 02:51.26 | nostrumuva | me using feather |
| 02:51.39 | nostrumuva | who here uses the feather linux |
| 02:51.50 | Wyzard | feather linux? |
| 02:52.23 | Guerin | nostrumuva: surprising as it may seem, we mostly use debian |
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| 02:52.42 | Wyzard | If that's a distribution, I haven't even heard of it |
| 02:52.55 | Wyzard | Guerin: hehe... I'm about to install FC3 on my laptop :-P |
| 02:53.08 | jamesdent | i have. isent it based off DSL? |
| 02:53.10 | soften | I also have a mandrake box, but no "feather" boxen |
| 02:53.11 | Guerin | Wyzard: hahaha |
| 02:53.14 | Guerin | !pity Wyzard |
| 02:53.15 | dpkg | I pity da fool Wyzard! |
| 02:53.28 | Wyzard | Guerin: Only temporarily, to see if ACPI works since I can't get it working in Debian |
| 02:53.33 | nvz | Guerin: they dont use real names in the game.. A "Phillies Blunt" in this game is a "Homies Sharp" |
| 02:53.37 | Guerin | featheerlinux is YAFDBD |
| 02:53.41 | Wyzard | Guerin: I'm backing up my Debian installation (using dd and netcat) so I can put it back when I'm done |
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| 02:53.49 | nvz | Guerin: a "Subaru WRX" is called a "Sultain |
| 02:53.56 | Guerin | Wyzard: suuure you are |
| 02:54.01 | Guerin | nvz: haha |
| 02:54.17 | Guerin | nvz: those pesky licensing issues... |
| 02:55.19 | nvz | Guerin: you'd think companies like Phillies, would have endorsed this game |
| 02:55.26 | Guerin | !pity USian teenagers |
| 02:55.27 | dpkg | I pity da fool USian teenagers! |
| 02:55.30 | Guerin | http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1365262,00.html |
| 02:55.44 | Guerin | nvz: which game? |
| 02:56.05 | nvz | Guerin: GTA San Andreas |
| 02:56.12 | Guerin | ah yeah |
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| 02:57.28 | rwa | anyone know why libapache2-mod-fcgi (fastcgi) isn't available as a debian package? were there problems with apache2 or was it due to lack of volunteers to maintain it? |
| 02:57.30 | nvz | Guerin: what would be the harm in making the names in a game like this user-editable.. so I could recognise a car type and change the name to its actual name.. then the company cant get sued.. I programmed it in after I bought it |
| 02:57.44 | Guerin | nvz: that's a good point |
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| 02:58.39 | Guerin | nvz: "I'm going to blow up those three Ballheads in their Skullmuncher with my SpiffleCannon! |
| 02:58.42 | Guerin | " |
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| 02:59.38 | nvz | Guerin: my viewpoint has always been more user control for games.. look at games like scorched earth (xscorch) the tremendous ammount of settings available to the user can completly transform the gaming experience |
| 02:59.54 | Guerin | yeah, scorched earth is good |
| 02:59.55 | nvz | Guerin: they games all use variables.. why not make a way for the user to tweak them |
| 02:59.57 | EvilScrlk | I have a big question. I am tring to setup 2 network cards on a linux box to act as a router. right now i have a windows machine behind a switch after the linux box and it gets a ip and it can ping the router before the linux machine (dlink) but when i try to ping a webpage it wont ping it says unreachble host |
| 03:01.06 | Wyzard | EvilScrlk: You need to enable forwarding and (most likely) IP masquerading |
| 03:01.22 | Guerin | EvilScrlk: make sure your linux bos is providing NAT, and that your windows box has its gateway properly set. |
| 03:01.32 | Wyzard | EvilScrlk: Use a package such as FireHOL or Shorewall |
| 03:01.36 | Guerin | apt-get install ipmasq is a start |
| 03:01.37 | EvilScrlk | my network is setup as follows. Wall jack to modem. Modem to router (r1). R1 to Switch (s1). Port 1 of S1 goes to Linux box (r2) eth0, eth1 of r2 goes to a second swithc (s2), s2 port 1 goes to windows machine |
| 03:01.39 | Guerin | eh |
| 03:01.41 | Wyzard | or ipmasq |
| 03:02.04 | Wyzard | EvilScrlk: Just having two network cards doesn't automatically mean traffic flows between them |
| 03:02.25 | EvilScrlk | but my windows machine can ping both routers |
| 03:02.38 | EvilScrlk | and forwarding file has a "1" on it right now |
| 03:02.50 | Wyzard | Oh, wait, you're not trying to use the Linux box as the router? |
| 03:02.55 | streuner_ | EvilScrlk: they are connected - not more - thats why ping worked. |
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| 03:03.15 | soften | his routing for both nicks looks ok |
| 03:03.16 | EvilScrlk | yes i am tring to use linux box as a router to s2 .. |
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| 03:03.29 | Wyzard | I'm not sure why you want to put a router behind another router |
| 03:03.30 | EvilScrlk | so first router is dmzed |
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| 03:03.41 | madclicker | ahoy |
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| 03:03.48 | Wyzard | ok |
| 03:03.49 | EvilScrlk | its a linux project for my class ;( |
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| 03:04.12 | madclicker | DEBIAN and AHCI installation anyone? |
| 03:04.13 | EvilScrlk | there is a second computer on r1 port 2 and it works fine in the net |
| 03:04.16 | imad | hi, can someone point me to a reliable backport site? I am looking for a backport for phppgadmin 3.3.x. thanks! |
| 03:04.17 | Wyzard | Then you do need to install ipmasq, FireHOL, or Shorewall |
| 03:05.01 | streuner_ | imad: /msg dpkg backports |
| 03:05.01 | Guerin | imad: dotdeb.org does mysql; maybe it does pg too |
| 03:05.06 | Wyzard | It sounds like R1 is working, but R2 isn't acting as a router (yet) |
| 03:05.16 | EvilScrlk | right wyzard |
| 03:05.31 | candymancan | Woohoo, just made my Debian CD explode! |
| 03:06.01 | EvilScrlk | dhcp on r2 is working becouse it gave my windows machine a ip.. its just not letting out to net |
| 03:06.01 | kbrooks | candymancan, did it warp? |
| 03:06.03 | puff | Is there a better way to do java on debian these days, or is it still roll-your-own? |
| 03:06.06 | Wyzard | EvilScrlk: Working DHCP has nothing to do with working routing |
| 03:06.12 | Wyzard | puff: apt-get install java-package |
| 03:06.21 | puff | Not that rolling your own is that hard, but I don't like going outside package management. |
| 03:06.25 | Wyzard | EvilScrlk: install ipmasq |
| 03:06.28 | candymancan | No, it just...exploded. Very badly. http://www.geocities.com/blobboid/ShatteredCD.jpg is a picture of it when all the pieces were found again. |
| 03:06.40 | EvilScrlk | ok thanks bro.. let see if it works |
| 03:06.52 | imad | EvilScrlk: i have used firehol. i highly recommend it. |
| 03:07.00 | kbrooks | candymancan, i'm guessing your CD was warped. |
| 03:07.18 | Scrlk | so firehol or ipmasq |
| 03:07.21 | puff | Hm. |
| 03:07.21 | Scrlk | ? |
| 03:07.23 | Scrlk | which one? |
| 03:07.28 | candymancan | Nay. Scratched, I think. It's never happened to me before, so I'm unsure what was different about this CD. Other cds of the same brand worked fine. |
| 03:07.38 | puff | Okay, so the answer is apparently, "no, you still have to get the JDK yourself." |
| 03:07.45 | Wyzard | Scrlk: In order of simplicity and reverse order of power, ipmasq -> firehol -> shorewall |
| 03:08.06 | kbrooks | candymancan, NEVER ever? |
| 03:08.23 | kbrooks | candymancan, sounds like the cd drive is damaged. |
| 03:08.36 | Wyzard | Scrlk: If you just want routing and nothing else, use ipmasq; otherwise take a look at firehol; use shorewall if firehol can't do what you need |
| 03:09.01 | Xenguy | Wyzard: heh, no repeating ;-) |
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