| 00:00.10 | osirion | dondelelcaro, thankyou very much |
| 00:00.26 | osirion | yeah but will that work with the xrootconsole thing? |
| 00:00.38 | dondelelcaro | osirion: no point in using an xrootconsole. Just use xterm |
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| 00:00.45 | Phated | jochen_m: Let's see. you have what, a sarge system? |
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| 00:00.56 | kbrooks | i wonder what 'xrootconsole; is |
| 00:01.00 | osirion | hmmm. i kinda like the way xrootconsole puts it on the background root xwindow though |
| 00:01.02 | kbrooks | s/;/' |
| 00:01.06 | osirion | apt-cache show xrootconsole mate |
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| 00:01.07 | jochen_m | Phated, I think it is unstable or testing or so |
| 00:01.20 | Phated | jochen_m: Right, and you want gimp 1.2. |
| 00:01.21 | corallis | if I install a program via apt-get, and it installed the program and 3 dependencies, is there any way I can then remove both the origional program and all dependencies that were downloaded with it in one command? apt-get remove just removes the program itself |
| 00:01.21 | dondelelcaro | osirion: *shrug* so have xrootconsole invoke top |
| 00:01.26 | jochen_m | I think I installed bullshit |
| 00:01.30 | jochen_m | gimp1.2 - Transitional dummy package for upgrading The GIMP |
| 00:01.38 | jochen_m | says apt-cache |
| 00:01.40 | osirion | dondelelcaro, that is what I am doing.. but I get the console control chars in there |
| 00:01.44 | jochen_m | Phated, yes |
| 00:01.47 | osirion | and I just want the output text field thingies |
| 00:01.49 | jochen_m | gimp 2.0 already works |
| 00:01.55 | jochen_m | gimp 1.2 is missing |
| 00:02.04 | Phated | jochen_m: Guess what, not happening. You don't get anything earlier than gimp 2.0 on sarge OR sid. |
| 00:02.05 | cafuego | Why do you need both? |
| 00:02.06 | dondelelcaro | osirion: what you're doing is piping the output from top to xrootconsole, not having xrootconsole invoke top |
| 00:02.14 | Phated | Yeah what cafuego said. |
| 00:02.25 | osirion | dondelelcaro, so how would I have to rewrite it? |
| 00:02.32 | cafuego | Or more to the point: why do you think you need both? |
| 00:02.35 | olorin | corallis apt-get remove remove the dependacies only if they are not needed by others packages ! |
| 00:02.38 | osirion | dondelelcaro, I showed you the commandline arguments I am using. |
| 00:02.41 | spilo | hey Debian guys out there.. what is gentoo and knopix? did those originate from debian? |
| 00:02.42 | dondelelcaro | osirion: probalby just s/xterm/xrootconsole/; but man xrootconsole |
| 00:03.03 | cafuego | spilo: /j #knoppix; /j #gentoo |
| 00:03.04 | jochen_m | Phated, so I have no chance to get it work? |
| 00:03.12 | [OC]Arkaine | knoppix originated from debian |
| 00:03.19 | Phated | jochen_m: WHY, if you have 2.0, do you need 1.2, would be the question. |
| 00:03.20 | corallis | olorin: i installed emacs, and 3 files related to emacs, and then 2 seconds later i tried to uninstall it... it wouldnt remove the 3 emacs dependencies.. i dont see how they can suddenly be needed by another program that didnt need them before |
| 00:03.22 | spilo | nice one cafuego |
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| 00:03.25 | spilo | :) |
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| 00:03.35 | Phated | corallis: Removing a program does not remove its deps. |
| 00:03.38 | jochen_m | Phated, because I cannot find everything I need in the new menu structure |
| 00:03.41 | cafuego | spilo: I'm not kidding. keep that off-topic shit away. |
| 00:03.46 | corallis | Phated: i know, i was asking if there is a way |
| 00:03.51 | Phated | jochen_m: Look, learn. |
| 00:03.55 | Phated | corallis: debfoster. |
| 00:03.59 | scarynetworkguy | corallis: debfoster |
| 00:04.04 | Phated | Install it if you don't have it. |
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| 00:05.14 | corallis | thanks guys... if i use KDE as my desktop, is there any reason I would need to keep gnome and the gnome desktop environment? there arel ike 200 files being kept because of it |
| 00:05.15 | kurumin | aonde que eu to!!!!???pelo amor de deus!!! |
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| 00:05.18 | spilo | cafuego: I only asked because they say those are bastardized versions of linux originated from debian.. but alright.. away I keep it :) |
| 00:05.29 | osirion | dondelelcaro, yeah there is something about using a file in xrootconsoles man page.. but nothing about invoking an external program. |
| 00:05.39 | Phated | corallis: Not really, no. |
| 00:05.45 | corallis | Phated: thanks very much |
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| 00:05.52 | osirion | I can't seem to get it to work without giving me all the colour and bold codes that top uses on the terminal coming out in the x output |
| 00:05.56 | Knight_Lord | Can anyone tell me how the kernel knows which filehandles to reopen after a reboot so that nfs still works? I'm trying to switch nfs servers and i can't because i don't know how this works |
| 00:05.57 | Phated | corallis: Have a nice day. |
| 00:06.01 | _cds | hmm, when starting X server it's coming up with fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' - ideas anyone? |
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| 00:06.13 | samuel | hello all |
| 00:06.19 | caphuso | _cds: install x-window-system-core |
| 00:06.47 | samuel | ive got a palm working with multisync, but i cant get it to work with gnome-pilot for the life of me, any suggestions? |
| 00:06.51 | kurumin | que panto de filho da puta mano!!!!!!! |
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| 00:10.17 | cafuego | Still nobody with a suggestion as to why OO.org (and Scribus) don't see the fonts I have served via xfstt/xfs-xtt ? |
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| 00:11.36 | NeoThermic | ok, the debian installer didn't really give me much options to partition the drive (basically it nearly wiped the whole drive). Anyone know of a windows based partition software that can allow me to partition my drive? |
| 00:11.49 | cafuego | NeoThermic: liar |
| 00:12.05 | _cds | hmm.. I'm getting a grey screen when starting X with 2 white lines.. anyone any guesses what would cause it? |
| 00:12.13 | Phated | Now, that's a filthy lie. It gives you a whole cfdisk session. |
| 00:12.19 | cafuego | NeoThermic: it asks you if you want to 1) Manually partition or 2) Automatically partition 2a) The entire drive or 2b) All available free space. |
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| 00:12.37 | NeoThermic | there was no automatic option. seriosuly |
| 00:12.44 | cafuego | Phated: No, it doesn't. It gives you the options above where 1) is a partman session. |
| 00:13.00 | Phated | cafuego: Ohh. Either way, it does give you a partitioning session. |
| 00:13.01 | NeoThermic | there was format (one option per drive), and manual |
| 00:13.10 | cafuego | NeoThermic: How did you start the cd? Did you type 'expert26' or 'export' ? |
| 00:13.12 | Phated | Ohhh, wait. |
| 00:13.21 | NeoThermic | I uh, just hit enter... |
| 00:13.25 | Phated | You were expecting an automatic partition like in RH's installer, weren't you. |
| 00:13.35 | cafuego | Then it should have given you the autopartition option. |
| 00:13.46 | NeoThermic | well, it wasn't there. :\ |
| 00:13.47 | Phated | Good lord we have autopartitioning now? |
| 00:13.59 | cafuego | Phated: yep, works fine, too. |
| 00:14.14 | Phated | cafuego: Dear me, d-i really is QUITE the shiny little thing, isn't it. |
| 00:14.24 | NeoThermic | right, one sec, lemme get my router set up and my laptop online so I can be online while installing |
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| 00:15.29 | cafuego | Phated: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=184&slide=10 |
| 00:15.41 | Phated | cafuego: Oooh a slideshow! Shiny. |
| 00:16.03 | NeoThermic | intresting. I never even had that screen |
| 00:16.28 | cafuego | NeoThermic: Which iso did you fetch then? |
| 00:16.34 | simonrvn | d-i is quite the thing |
| 00:16.35 | justdust | OH, my tummy |
| 00:16.45 | justdust | spaghetti GOOD |
| 00:16.48 | NeoThermic | cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso |
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| 00:17.06 | cafuego | NeoThermic: Hmm, that *should* have partman etc on it. |
| 00:17.15 | Phat32 | Hi |
| 00:17.22 | NeoThermic | well, unless I fell asleep, it seems not to :( |
| 00:17.25 | `Gumby | can anyone tell me if there is somewhere I can find deb packages other than the ones that are on official debian mirrors? |
| 00:17.34 | thorie | are there GT.M packages for debian? |
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| 00:17.49 | emmo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.55 | emmo | on debian ofcourse :) |
| 00:18.00 | Phat32 | I just changed the audio driver on xine to alsa instead of auto or whatever it was on and now xine crashes everytime I run it |
| 00:18.28 | Phat32 | how do I restore xine's settings to default from the terminal |
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| 00:18.46 | caphuso | Phat32: edit ~/.xine/config |
| 00:18.49 | cafuego | Phat32: rm -rf ~/.xine |
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| 00:19.00 | olorin | maybe cd ~/.xine |
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| 00:19.10 | cafuego | caphuso's is more elegant. Mine's a nuke-em-all solution. |
| 00:19.19 | NeoThermic | right, lets see if this works |
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| 00:20.53 | Phat32 | oh crap |
| 00:20.56 | simonrvn | should have a LART packet every time some idiot connects to port 37, like ntpd's KOS packet |
| 00:20.58 | Neo|Laptop | right |
| 00:21.02 | Phat32 | xine took the sound and created a .wav from it |
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| 00:21.11 | Phat32 | I did that on accident with xmms a long time ago |
| 00:21.22 | simonrvn | s/KOS/KOD/ |
| 00:21.58 | Neo|Laptop | cafuego: ok, I'm going for the attempt again, lets see what I've got |
| 00:22.35 | Phat32 | hey guys |
| 00:22.41 | Phat32 | there is no ./xine |
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| 00:22.58 | stew | Phat32: ~/.xine ? |
| 00:22.58 | Phated | Phat32: ~/,xine |
| 00:23.04 | Phated | s/,/./ |
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| 00:23.12 | olorin | Phat32 , ~/.xine |
| 00:23.29 | Neo|Laptop | ok, there's the first prompt, press enter to boot, or F1 for help. |
| 00:23.43 | stew | Phated: looks like you are talking to your 1337 alter-ego or something |
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| 00:23.57 | Phat32 | no `./xine either |
| 00:23.58 | simonrvn | i didn't see that "splashscreen" when i botted from cd on an imac |
| 00:24.02 | Phated | stew: Not really. |
| 00:24.04 | simonrvn | booted* |
| 00:24.12 | kbrooks | lol |
| 00:24.13 | Phated | Phat32: OI! PAY ATTENTION! /home/you/.xine |
| 00:24.18 | kbrooks | 1337 |
| 00:24.18 | Phat32 | ~./xine |
| 00:24.25 | Phat32 | ok |
| 00:24.26 | simonrvn | ~ tilde |
| 00:24.27 | apt | tilde is, like, the thing usually to the left of the one key, or to represent home directory, or next to the enter key on sensible keyboards, or above hash, or probably located in different places on international keyboards but only UK keyboards matter |
| 00:24.28 | Phat32 | one sec] |
| 00:24.31 | Phated | THE DOT GOES *AFTER* THE SLASH! |
| 00:24.41 | Neo|Laptop | ok, I'm on the [!!] Partition disks page |
| 00:24.48 | Neo|Laptop | the only options I have are: |
| 00:25.06 | simonrvn | Phat32: ./ means CWD (current working directory). .foo is a dot dir / file |
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| 00:25.19 | Neo|Laptop | Erase entire disk (for IDE1-Master, IDE1-Slave, IDE5-master), and manually edit partition table |
| 00:25.25 | Phat32 | nope not there either |
| 00:25.37 | simonrvn | Phat32: ~/ is YOUR home dir, e.g. /home/phat32/ |
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| 00:25.48 | Phat32 | I'm logged on as root |
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| 00:25.54 | Phat32 | I checked /root |
| 00:26.04 | Phat32 | and /home/dsl |
| 00:26.11 | Phat32 | dsl = damn small linux |
| 00:26.13 | olorin | Phat32 why run xine as root ? |
| 00:26.21 | Phat32 | I'm logged on as root |
| 00:26.25 | simonrvn | WTF are you running xine as root? |
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| 00:26.34 | Strog | don't do that |
| 00:26.46 | Phat32 | it's a little late for that |
| 00:26.58 | Phat32 | I have dne that |
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| 00:27.52 | olorin | Phat32 , no matter, su to your standard user and go in ~/.xine |
| 00:28.01 | trueno | Hi! Is there a way to reinstall a whole system without having to delete it all? |
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| 00:28.24 | olorin | trueno , why do you want to Reinstall all the system ? |
| 00:28.25 | pipeline | trueno: Skip the step where you partition your disk. |
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| 00:28.58 | pipeline | trueno: The debian installer does not force you to follow the steps in order, so just don't do the parts you don't want to (i.e. partition and format a disk, skip straight to mounting." |
| 00:29.18 | trueno | olorin -- corrupt hd :-( |
| 00:29.37 | Neo|Laptop | right, screenshots the old fasion way. cafuego: http://www.neothermic.com/debian/DSCN2191.JPG |
| 00:29.39 | stew | trueno: /msg dpkg reinstall |
| 00:29.40 | Neo|Laptop | thats the partition screen |
| 00:29.58 | stew | trueno: corrupted how? |
| 00:30.08 | Phat32 | xine: conf.c:3o79: snd_config_update_free: Assertion 'update->count > 0 && update-> finfo' failed. |
| 00:30.18 | Phat32 | that's the error message |
| 00:30.31 | trueno | pipeline -- I would just like to refetch the files. There are a lot of files in lost+found, and I don't know where they should be |
| 00:30.43 | dasunt | If I want to take the listing of the installed packages on one system and feed it to dpkg to install on another system, how would I do that? |
| 00:30.49 | olorin | Phat32, rm -rf ~/.xine |
| 00:30.58 | olorin | Phat32, and run xine again |
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| 00:31.10 | Phat32 | there is no ~./xine |
| 00:31.17 | Phat32 | it can't find it under either user |
| 00:31.17 | trueno | stew -- No clue :-(. I did a hd upgrade couple of days ago, and it worked ok. |
| 00:31.31 | stew | dasunt: /msg dpkg selections |
| 00:31.40 | olorin | Phat32, if you install xine you must have a ~/.xine |
| 00:31.53 | Phat32 | son of a bitch |
| 00:31.59 | Phat32 | thank you |
| 00:32.01 | Neo|Laptop | language. |
| 00:32.05 | stew | !comfort Phat32 |
| 00:32.06 | dpkg | There, there, Phat32. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 00:32.12 | Phat32 | I was typing ./xine |
| 00:32.14 | Phated | Phat32: The . goes AFTER the / |
| 00:32.17 | stew | haha |
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| 00:32.32 | stew | Phat32: you really gotta pay closer attention |
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| 00:33.00 | hardwire | hola.. |
| 00:33.06 | hardwire | I got approved to get a new work laptop. |
| 00:33.08 | _cds | anyone know what setting makes the x server display a grey screen with 2 white bars, if not set up correctly? |
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| 00:33.10 | hardwire | soooooooooo |
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| 00:33.22 | hardwire | who knows about the new IBM series.. enough to tell me yay/nay on its linuxability. |
| 00:33.26 | corallis | are there currently any java IDEs in debian/testing? |
| 00:33.30 | stew | hardwire: yay |
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| 00:33.38 | Neo|Laptop | anyone got a spare minuite to help me? I'm trying to set up debian to dual boot nicley with my XP install. however, currently there is no option for ann automatic detection. What can one do? |
| 00:33.39 | Phat32 | I have another prob |
| 00:33.54 | Phat32 | I was trying to install mplayer and it needs some packages |
| 00:33.59 | Neo|Laptop | (an automatic detection for partitioning that is) |
| 00:34.05 | cat | Phat32: mplayer on debian/ |
| 00:34.05 | Phat32 | apt-get install libc6-dev isn't working |
| 00:34.10 | Phated | Install gxine and all problems are solved. |
| 00:34.19 | cat | yeah gxine is better |
| 00:34.36 | stew | Phat32: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 00:35.29 | Rebecca | how well does a debian install cope with getting a total hardware swap? (mobo, cpu, nic, sound) |
| 00:35.57 | caphuso | Rebecca: that's a kernel question |
| 00:35.58 | Neo|Laptop | alot better than windows would... |
| 00:36.10 | daft_ | Neo|Laptop: for lilo there is a auto detect |
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| 00:36.44 | gratuit | Rebecca: as long as X isn't set to run at boot, you should be able to at least get to a terminal to set up things |
| 00:36.52 | Rebecca | okay :) |
| 00:37.02 | Mad-Duck | does someone know in wich dir are the modules? |
| 00:37.03 | Phat32 | dpkg mplayer didn't work |
| 00:37.03 | dpkg | Phat32: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 00:37.17 | Neo|Laptop | daft_: I'm not sure lilo is an option yet. I've not even got to the point of partitioning for debian. Plus windows is already installed |
| 00:37.18 | Piru | if you're not using the same NIC, net might not be available, so prepare for that |
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| 00:37.23 | caphuso | Rebecca: my installation survived 5 hard disks, 3 motherboards, 2 CPUs and 3 graphic cards |
| 00:37.24 | Rebecca | should it autodetect and correct most hardware changes? or is that expecting too much? |
| 00:37.26 | loke | how can i query which packages are installed on a system? |
| 00:37.31 | stew | !tell Phat32 about mplayer |
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| 00:37.50 | caphuso | Rebecca: the answer to that question depends on a lot of variables |
| 00:37.57 | lovebug | loke: dpkg -l | less |
| 00:38.01 | daft_ | Neo|Laptop: you dont have debian installed yet? |
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| 00:38.09 | Rebecca | i understand :) |
| 00:38.12 | Rebecca | thanks |
| 00:38.12 | loke | lovebug thanks |
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| 00:38.16 | Neo|Laptop | daft_: nopers, I'm attempting to install it |
| 00:38.26 | caphuso | Rebecca: concentrate on making sure that your kernel will at least boot on the new stuff and that you can compile a new kernel right after |
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| 00:39.26 | loke | lovebug how do i update that list? |
| 00:39.26 | daft_ | Neo|Laptop: well at the end of the install windows will be decteded and put in the lilo list |
| 00:39.33 | caphuso | Rebecca: that's quite easy, and everything else is just a bit of grunt work (changnig a couple things here and there, nothing serious) |
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| 00:39.59 | Phat32 | these error messages are a pain in the ass to type out |
| 00:40.02 | thorie | how do i add a path so that all system users inherit and have this in their own environment path? |
| 00:40.06 | Phated | Phat32: Copy, paste. |
| 00:40.08 | Phat32 | I need a terminal with copy paste |
| 00:40.14 | Phated | Er, gpm? |
| 00:40.19 | caphuso | screen |
| 00:40.29 | Phated | screen > gpm > * |
| 00:40.30 | lovebug | loke: it should be current, itss whats installed |
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| 00:40.50 | justdust | gmp ircii, lmao |
| 00:40.55 | loke | lovebug well i apt-get removed a few packages, but they still show in the list |
| 00:40.57 | Phat32 | keep in mind I'm on damn small linux |
| 00:41.00 | Phat32 | not debian |
| 00:41.00 | Phated | HAH! |
| 00:41.11 | stew | oh boy |
| 00:41.14 | caphuso | Phated: then go away |
| 00:41.17 | caphuso | grrr! |
| 00:41.18 | stew | hah |
| 00:41.19 | Phated | caphuso: EH! |
| 00:41.20 | caphuso | Phat32: then go away |
| 00:41.24 | Phated | Sorry, can't resist everytime someone finally confesses not being on Debian. |
| 00:41.33 | scarynetworkguy | Heh |
| 00:41.38 | caphuso | Phated: you can stay |
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| 00:41.39 | Neo|Laptop | ARG |
| 00:41.49 | Phated | caphuso: :) You sweetie. |
| 00:41.50 | loke | beastmaster damn big linux? |
| 00:41.56 | Phat32 | It still uses apt-get and a lot of the same progs |
| 00:41.59 | thorie | is there a file in /etc where i can specify the path for all system users? |
| 00:42.03 | Phated | Phat32: Shoo, vamoose! |
| 00:42.07 | beastmaster | loke, a joke :p |
| 00:42.07 | Phated | And so on. |
| 00:42.16 | Phated | A rhyme! |
| 00:42.22 | bbrazil | thorie: /etc/profile, but that only works for logins |
| 00:42.35 | thorie | thx |
| 00:43.38 | stew | Phat32: /msg chanserv list damn* |
| 00:43.45 | stew | Phat32: and join one of those channels |
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| 00:44.50 | grog | didnt help tho, anybody used smartmontools with software raid on serial ata? |
| 00:45.26 | Lazydog | i am told that debian is rock solid after it is installed. my question is how hard is the install? |
| 00:45.48 | thingfish | Lazydog: using debian-installer, it's pretty darn easy. |
| 00:45.48 | Rebecca | Lazydog: im installing it now.. seems pretty easy |
| 00:45.57 | Neo|Laptop | I'm installing it now, and I'm stuck |
| 00:45.58 | Neo|Laptop | heh |
| 00:46.04 | cire | is it possible (either in sh or perl, sh would be better in my case) to write a script, which gives the user for n seconds the possibility to make a choice [1,2,3,4,...], and if no valid input in n seconds was detected to execute another part of the script? ("case" with timeout and user-input) |
| 00:46.05 | stew | Lazydog: its especially easy with the new installer, /msg dpkg d-i |
| 00:46.07 | justdust | lick my p**per |
| 00:46.25 | stew | justdust: ?? |
| 00:46.31 | _cds | argh.. anyone.. white lines? x server? |
| 00:46.35 | justdust | parracommandotrooper |
| 00:46.57 | jbr | cire: read -t has timeout |
| 00:47.04 | Lazydog | thnx thingfish Rebecca stew |
| 00:47.11 | cire | is read a sh command? |
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| 00:47.19 | Lazydog | thingfish: whats this debian-installer? |
| 00:47.26 | cire | just tried it, thanks! |
| 00:47.28 | Lazydog | link to a web page? |
| 00:47.32 | jbr | cire: oh, dunno, I was reading bash's "help read" |
| 00:47.52 | stew | !tell Lazydog about d-i |
| 00:47.59 | thingfish | Lazydog: it's the cat's meow! http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 00:48.24 | lovebug | loke: still there? |
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| 00:48.32 | simonrvn | !possible |
| 00:48.33 | simonrvn | !!possible |
| 00:48.33 | dpkg | Anything's possible. Some things are more possible than others. You'll need to ask a more meaningful question if you want to find out how possible your planned course of action is. |
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| 00:48.58 | loke | lovebug yes, sorry |
| 00:49.15 | thingfish | Lazydog: you get the image, you burn it to cd, boot to it and it installs a base system. You then reboot and finish installing the rest of your system, pulling the files off the internet or wherever. |
| 00:49.40 | Lazydog | thingfish: cool thnx again will look into this |
| 00:49.40 | lovebug | loke: have a look at the dpkg man page, --update-avail, or perhaps dselect update, im not sure, never did it but looks promising |
| 00:49.52 | loke | lovebug thanks |
| 00:50.01 | justdust | scrollkeeper rules |
| 00:50.11 | thingfish | Lazydog: it's really the ONLY way to install debian these days. All the hollywood stars are using it. |
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| 00:50.30 | Lazydog | lol at thingfish |
| 00:50.32 | peterS | thingfish: yes but what about the Holy Wood stars? |
| 00:50.41 | thingfish | silly, there are no holy stars. |
| 00:50.47 | peterS | it's a Pratchett thing |
| 00:50.54 | zignig | peterS: whatch out for those film explosions. |
| 00:51.01 | peterS | zignig: right you are |
| 00:51.11 | mac7 | how do I generate a MD5SUM from file over 2GB |
| 00:51.12 | stew | not sure i'd take any linux recommendation from a hollywood star |
| 00:51.23 | zignig | peterS: I'm reading Monsterous Regiment atm |
| 00:51.23 | peterS | mac7: md5sum doesn't do it? |
| 00:51.32 | thingfish | what? Paris Hilton helps me make ALL my linux decisions. |
| 00:51.34 | lovebug | loke: do the uninstallled programs show in dpkg --get-selections | less ? |
| 00:51.40 | Lazydog | ok thingfish, i'm dl'ing the iso now and will give it a try |
| 00:51.41 | peterS | zignig: I don't think I've read any particularly recent pratchett |
| 00:51.45 | mac7 | don't think so |
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| 00:51.59 | zignig | peterS: it's all good :) |
| 00:52.03 | peterS | mac7: what about md5sum.coreutils or md5sum.textutils? |
| 00:52.11 | peterS | zignig: agreed |
| 00:52.11 | caphuso | monstrous regiment is good, but kinda weird |
| 00:52.11 | colter | Is there a friendlier boot-up screen for Debian (maybe a graphical frame in which bootup messages are printed, maybe even colorized)? |
| 00:52.13 | thingfish | Diana Ross was the one who talked me into trying debian in the first place. |
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| 00:52.17 | loke | lovebug yes |
| 00:52.22 | Phated | Hilton is a bloody bimbo. |
| 00:52.24 | russell_ | Is there any like apt-get reinstall package |
| 00:52.30 | loke | lovebug i have to dpkg --purge foo, instead of apt-get remove |
| 00:52.32 | thingfish | Phated: well, yes... |
| 00:52.37 | caphuso | russell_: apt-get --reinstall install foo |
| 00:52.48 | Phated | Probably can't even find the any key. |
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| 00:52.50 | zignig | thingfish: heh , that make me think of http://www.routergod.com |
| 00:52.53 | peterS | Phated: yeah but when you need good solid installation advice, sometimes a bloody bimbo knows best |
| 00:52.58 | Phated | peterS: Hah. |
| 00:53.21 | Lazydog | does debian support ext3? |
| 00:53.22 | zignig | sometime less knowledge is better. |
| 00:53.23 | lovebug | loke: maybe, i usually apt-get --purge foo if i dont think i will ever need it |
| 00:53.28 | thingfish | Phated: nah, she's good, taught Nicole all about udev and prelink and stuff like that. |
| 00:53.29 | Phated | Lazydog: Yes. |
| 00:53.30 | loke | lovebug ahh |
| 00:53.30 | Phat32 | ok I tried to configure mplayer |
| 00:53.33 | Lazydog | cool |
| 00:53.34 | loke | lovebug thank you |
| 00:53.36 | Phat32 | ./configure |
| 00:53.39 | Phated | thingfish: Bloody bimbo. |
| 00:53.41 | Phat32 | here's is the error message |
| 00:53.43 | lovebug | loke: apt-get remove --purge i mean |
| 00:53.44 | thingfish | lol |
| 00:53.53 | loke | lovebug ok, will try that |
| 00:53.54 | mac7 | peterS: md5sum.coreutils is md5sum and I think it does not support files over 2G ?! |
| 00:53.57 | Phated | Phat32: Wait, WHY are you trying to ./configure mplayer? You can install it from binaries... |
| 00:54.16 | loke | lovebug deborphan is nice too |
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| 00:54.21 | stew | Phated: Wait, WHY are you still trying to help this guy? L) |
| 00:54.27 | Phated | stew: You're right. |
| 00:54.31 | peterS | mac7: /usr/bin/md5sum and /usr/bin/md5sum.coreutils are two implementations of md5sum. I would not assume that they both fail to support 64-bit file offsets, just because one of them does |
| 00:54.35 | Phated | Phat32: Question retracted, have a nice day. |
| 00:54.40 | lovebug | loke: yep, that too, anyhow, gtg eat, good luck |
| 00:54.49 | Phat32 | Error: Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h (see DOCS/HTML/en/tml) |
| 00:54.55 | loke | lovabug thanks again |
| 00:55.03 | Phated | stew: Whew, backed out just in time. |
| 00:55.35 | Phat32 | I didn't know I could get it in bin form |
| 00:55.39 | peterS | mac7: but if you want to try a third implementation of md5sum, install 'openssl' and run 'openssl md5 your_filename' |
| 00:56.06 | peterS | mac7: or 'openssl md5 < your_filename' for cleaner output which is easier to pipe into other shell commands |
| 00:56.09 | Phated | Phat32: Which you would know if you had -read- /msg dpkg mplayer. |
| 00:56.11 | mac7 | peterS: done allready |
| 00:56.15 | umfufu | is it true that security updates for sarge/testing is not released before some weeks after the security holes are found due to intensive dependency testing? |
| 00:56.16 | mac7 | file to nig |
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| 00:56.31 | peterS | mac7: weird. so all three implementations don't like files over 2 GB? |
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| 00:56.53 | mac7 | peterS: [root@cake DVD]# openssl dgst -md5 Mandrakelinux-10.1-Official-Download-DVD.i586.iso |
| 00:56.53 | mac7 | Mandrakelinux-10.1-Official-Download-DVD.i586.iso: File too large |
| 00:56.57 | jors | hi, is mono broken in unstable? |
| 00:57.06 | peterS | mac7: I think that's odd partly because both md5sum and md5sum.coreutils use the 'fopen64()' call, which is specificially intended for opening large files |
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| 00:57.44 | Phated | mac7: Ask the people who got the md5sums on the site how THEY got the md5sums? :) |
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| 00:58.05 | peterS | mac7: out of curiosity, does sha1sum work on large files? SHA-1 is a different checksum than MD5, but the utility is similar |
| 00:58.05 | Nunyer | sup all |
| 00:58.08 | colter | is there a bootsplash screen available for debian? |
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| 00:58.24 | sbk | mac7: assuming cat works, is it too silly to just do cat file | md5sum |
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| 00:58.35 | Phat32 | I don't see bin anywhere |
| 00:58.39 | Phat32 | only tar.bz2 |
| 00:58.46 | Phated | !mplayer |
| 00:58.46 | dpkg | mplayer is not in Debian. St. Marillat has made unofficial debs available: see ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for instructions. /msg dpkg marillat |
| 00:58.51 | [OC]Arkaine | there are bootsplash aplenty floating around |
| 00:58.59 | Phated | Phat32: OK, actually READ that site? |
| 00:59.00 | Phat32 | I went there |
| 00:59.01 | [OC]Arkaine | try kde-look.org |
| 00:59.03 | peterS | St. Marillat. that's funny. |
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| 00:59.22 | Phated | Phat32: Believe me. I've BEEN there. I've installed mplayer from binaries through apt-get. You're not reading. |
| 00:59.25 | Phat32 | he wanted me to get an experimental verion of apt |
| 00:59.31 | peterS | the fact that his name is Christian doesn't make him a saint (: |
| 00:59.32 | Neo|Laptop | anyone able to help a total newbie install? |
| 00:59.49 | Phated | peterS: But he made mplayer binaries! |
| 00:59.50 | Phat32 | they hate newbies |
| 00:59.52 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: we prefer to answer specific questions, rather than try to guide you step by step through what the manual covers already |
| 00:59.58 | Phated | s/binaries/debs/ |
| 01:00.00 | debian | peterS: St.=Saint?! |
| 01:00.03 | stew | Phated: you have to start to wonder if this is a troll |
| 01:00.07 | peterS | debian: that's what St. usually means, yes |
| 01:00.17 | Phated | stew: I have to start to wonder if I'm allowed to kill him/her. |
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| 01:00.23 | peterS | debian: except where it means Street, in a snail mail address |
| 01:00.23 | jbr | peterS: btw, isn't it still for some reason called md5sum.textutils? |
| 01:00.30 | debian | peterS: May be another French Knighthood title |
| 01:00.31 | peterS | jbr: depends on how old your install is |
| 01:00.31 | Neo|Laptop | peterS: ok, lets get spcific then. I've not got any automatic partition options in the installer in any way shape or form. What can one do? |
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| 01:00.37 | debian | peterS: lol |
| 01:00.41 | colter | [OC]Arkaine: So I guess do official package? I don't care what it looks like as long as its a bit 'friendlier' then the bare console text |
| 01:00.57 | Phated | Eh, you see it for a sum total of one minute while booting. |
| 01:01.03 | peterS | jbr: it is actually called md5sum and was shipped in textutils and diverted by the version shipped by dpkg |
| 01:01.05 | jbr | peterS: I checked packages.debian.org/coreutil's unstable package contents list |
| 01:01.20 | [OC]Arkaine | do you mean kernel bootsplash or lilo/grub bootsplash? |
| 01:01.25 | peterS | jbr: later, textutils was replaced by coreutils, so if you installed *after* that transition, the dpkg diversion will create md5sum.coreutils instead |
| 01:01.25 | Phat32 | so I have to install the experimental apt or I can't get mplayer? |
| 01:01.36 | stew | Phat32: no |
| 01:01.41 | peterS | jbr: my box was installed back when textutils was its own package, so mine is called md5sum.textutils |
| 01:01.46 | Phated | It. Is. Not. An. Experimental. Apt. |
| 01:01.47 | Phat32 | ok... |
| 01:01.48 | stew | Phat32: i don't know what might have given you that idea |
| 01:01.48 | [OC]Arkaine | no just change sources.list to add mrillat's mirror |
| 01:01.52 | colter | Phated: I know, but I thought it wouldnt hurt asking |
| 01:01.57 | stew | Phat32: but you clearly don't understand how apt works |
| 01:02.05 | Phat32 | I guess it's back to google again looking for some kind of mplAYER.BIN |
| 01:02.10 | Phated | colter: As someone or other said, aplenty, aplenty, just hunt around. |
| 01:02.11 | colter | [OC] Arkaine: kernel bootsplash |
| 01:02.12 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: which installer CD did you download? |
| 01:02.14 | cliechti | with udev, which name has the device for the PS/2 mouse? (trying to configure X) |
| 01:02.17 | stew | Phat32: man apt-get; man 5 sources.list |
| 01:02.17 | jors | can anyone confirm if mono/monodevelop is broken on unstable? thanks! |
| 01:02.24 | hardwire | looks like the IBM G41 will save the day. |
| 01:02.26 | peterS | cliechti: /dev/input/mice |
| 01:02.27 | Phated | stew: He/she does not get it. |
| 01:02.31 | Phated | stew: At all. |
| 01:02.32 | shingouz | Phat32: in a nutshell. add the repository to your sources.list, do apt-get update and then install mplayer. |
| 01:02.35 | stew | Phat32: then /part #debian ; /join damnsmalllinux |
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| 01:02.40 | Phat32 | I got someone elses source list |
| 01:02.43 | Neo|Laptop | peterS: one sec. |
| 01:02.46 | Phat32 | it was loaded with servers |
| 01:02.50 | stew | Phat32: ask them then |
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| 01:03.02 | Phat32 | but I only used it for trying to get libc6-dev |
| 01:03.11 | stew | Phat32: stop bothering us with your fucked up dsl install though |
| 01:03.12 | Phat32 | I guess I'll try it for mplayer |
| 01:03.25 | cliechti | peterS, hm i looked there, there is no such device... only an "event0" |
| 01:03.38 | peterS | cliechti: load the 'mousedev' module, then |
| 01:03.53 | [OC]Arkaine | add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list - deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html unstable main |
| 01:03.59 | peterS | cliechti: event0 corresponds to the 'evdev' module, which you most likely do not need |
| 01:04.00 | [OC]Arkaine | then do apt-get update |
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| 01:04.05 | [OC]Arkaine | then apt-get install mplayer |
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| 01:04.24 | Phated | mplayer-<arch>, but let's not confuse Phat32. |
| 01:04.32 | stew | Phated: as if! |
| 01:04.38 | [OC]Arkaine | yeah mplayer-arch like 586 686 386 |
| 01:04.39 | Phated | stew: Ah, right. |
| 01:04.44 | cliechti | peterS, yep that works, thank you. i'll have to add that to /etc/modules, right? |
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| 01:04.48 | Phated | Or -k7, -k6... |
| 01:04.51 | peterS | cliechti: good idea, yeah |
| 01:05.02 | corallis | has anyone here ever patched an orinoco wireless card with the airsnort patch on debian? |
| 01:05.03 | Neo|Laptop | peterS: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso |
| 01:05.04 | peterS | cliechti: theoretically you can get it autoloaded in other ways, but /etc/modules is by far the easiest IMO |
| 01:05.04 | stew | heaven forbid that Phat32 gets confused! |
| 01:05.07 | Neo|Laptop | thats the ISO I go |
| 01:05.12 | Neo|Laptop | s/go/got/ |
| 01:05.18 | [OC]Arkaine | also probably want to grab libdvdcss and w32codes while you're at it |
| 01:05.25 | [OC]Arkaine | w32codecs* |
| 01:05.25 | debian | y not vlc |
| 01:05.30 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: oh ok. you could have said "sarge rc2 businesscard for i386" (: |
| 01:05.36 | shingouz | corallis: www.kismetwireless.net. its all there |
| 01:05.42 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: anyway, that should certainly have an auto partitioner option |
| 01:05.48 | stoned | hi, got a fav to ask, its got one harmless popup, from dot.tk, I won't be able to keep the free domain forwarding if I have hardly any hits, so please just visit http://www.nyle.tk once and thats all, no need to click anything else :) Thanks again everyone, sorry for the /amsg spam |
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| 01:05.49 | Neo|Laptop | peterS: that would assume I rememberd which it was :) |
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| 01:05.53 | debian | !vlc |
| 01:05.53 | dpkg | from memory, vlc is the VideoLAN Client. It's a MPEG2 client/server program for broadcasting. It can also be used standalone as an normal MPEG2/DVD player. See http://www.videolan.org, or apt-gettable. |
| 01:05.55 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: oh, heh |
| 01:06.07 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: I haven't tried that image (or rc2 at all, for that matter) so you might have better luck asking in #debian-boot |
| 01:06.07 | kreg_playstation | what's up |
| 01:06.10 | iceman | can you guys recommend a easy to use program that lets me cut out part of a mpg file? |
| 01:06.14 | Neo|Laptop | peterS: nope, I've taken some manual screenshots of the install options for partition: http://www.neothermic.com/debian/ |
| 01:06.15 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: #debian-boot is where the debian-installer people live |
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| 01:06.53 | bahamat | hey guys, I'm using apache2, and trying to use the rewrite engine, but nothing ever appears to be hitting the rewrite engine...I was wondering if someone could help me figure out why |
| 01:06.56 | Neo|Laptop | and for the record, HDB isn't empty, its just a bit messed uo in the LBA's :P |
| 01:07.09 | [OC]Arkaine | whi wanted to know about bootsplash? |
| 01:07.13 | [OC]Arkaine | who* |
| 01:07.15 | [OC]Arkaine | http://www.desktop-linux.net/bootsplash.htm |
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| 01:07.17 | shingouz | corallis: you will need the vanilla kernel sources from kernel.org for the patch to work as it should, at least i didnt get the patch to work before i grabbed the vanilla sources |
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| 01:08.25 | achilles | whats compiling a kernel? |
| 01:08.47 | Crell42 | Greetings. Does the subversion package in Sarge not include an init script to run the svn deamon? |
| 01:08.51 | thorie | how do i initialize an ext2 partition? |
| 01:08.56 | justdust | I just finished debian installation, but logged in in gnome max screen res is 800x600, how can I add 1024x768 ? |
| 01:09.02 | [OC]Arkaine | kerenml is the brains of an OS |
| 01:09.04 | bahamat | thorie: mke2fs |
| 01:09.05 | WillR | is there any to install lilo or grub again off the cd without having it repartition my drives and erase everyhting? |
| 01:09.09 | Alionka | adios |
| 01:09.10 | Crell42 | thorie: You mean format it? mkfs.ext2 |
| 01:09.19 | [OC]Arkaine | compikling it takes source code and makes an executable file, using the features you choose |
| 01:09.40 | Crell42 | justdust: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:09.46 | WillR | i messed up my kernel rebuild and want to set lilo bak to its default setting but i cant get in due to kernel panic.. everytiime i try to install from cd it wants me to write changes the hd again.. and erase all |
| 01:09.52 | justdust | Crell42: ok thx |
| 01:09.58 | thorie | When I run mkfs.ext2 /dev/cobd2 i get: "Input/output error while trying to determine filesystem size" -- what does that mean? |
| 01:09.58 | Crell42 | It will let you set the resolutions you want to support. Make sure you select 1024x768 |
| 01:10.03 | bahamat | [OC]Arkaine: no it's not, the kernel is exactly what it sounds like, the kernel. think of a nut as the OS then you'll understand what a kernel and a shell is |
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| 01:10.27 | bahamat | thorie: did you create any partitions on it? |
| 01:10.38 | thorie | bahamat: no |
| 01:10.45 | thorie | bahamat: its a brand new, empty hard drive |
| 01:10.46 | Crell42 | thorie: That's the problem. :-) |
| 01:10.51 | bahamat | thorie: then you'll have a problem |
| 01:10.52 | Crell42 | You want it to be one big partition? |
| 01:10.57 | thorie | Crell42: yes |
| 01:11.00 | bahamat | thorie: you may want to try running cfdisk first |
| 01:11.04 | Neo|Laptop | peterS: and what should one ask the #debian-boot people? the same question as in here, or the one I can't see? |
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| 01:11.12 | corallis | shingouz: im new to debian... can I just grab the kernel sources with "apt-get install source kernel"? |
| 01:11.12 | Crell42 | OK, then use cfdisk and just make one primary partition out of the entire space. |
| 01:11.29 | Crell42 | Then run mkfs.ext2 on it, or perhaps cfdisk can even format it for you, I forget. |
| 01:11.31 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: looking at your screenshots, I'm not sure what other option you're expecting to see |
| 01:11.31 | bahamat | corallis: you also need to specify which version you want |
| 01:11.41 | WillR | anyone? |
| 01:11.48 | bahamat | corallis: eg, apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 01:12.00 | shejk | how can I install 2 mice in X one is touchpad(working) one is usbmouse? |
| 01:12.06 | Crell42 | shingouz: You can, but I generally get the vanilla sources from kernel.org. Debian's kernel building tools support that route, too. |
| 01:12.08 | Neo|Laptop | peterS: something that will allow me to take a partition and partition it further, rather than the scary wording of 2193 that its going to replace my parition table for that drive. |
| 01:12.13 | thorie | When I type cfdisk /dev/cobd2 it says: FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive Press any key to exit cfdisk (and then i press the shift key, and it doesn't exit) |
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| 01:12.35 | bahamat | WillR: when you get the boot prompt type LinuxOld |
| 01:12.35 | Crell42 | Neo|Laptop: gnuparted, and its GUI frontend qtparted? |
| 01:12.45 | peterS | Crell42: he's in the installer |
| 01:12.45 | bahamat | thorie: are you root? |
| 01:12.51 | Crell42 | thorie: What exactly is cobd2 |
| 01:12.53 | thorie | bahamat: Yes |
| 01:12.53 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: what you want is 'manually set up partitions' then |
| 01:12.55 | Crell42 | peterS: Ah, ok. |
| 01:12.58 | thorie | Crell42: a virtual hard drive |
| 01:13.04 | bahamat | thorie: then I'm not sure that disk actually exists |
| 01:13.08 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: it's menu-driven and lets you create and delete and resize and set mount points and so forth |
| 01:13.12 | Neo|Laptop | thats 2192, but that doesn't give me any real good options. |
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| 01:13.42 | Crell42 | Does the subversion package in Sarge not include an init script to run the svn daemon? Or do I have to run it manually... |
| 01:13.50 | corallis | baharat: thanks, got it |
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| 01:13.59 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: well, you highlight the partition you want to change, and hit enter, and it gives you options for what to do with it |
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| 01:14.32 | shingouz | corallis: just ftp the sources off kernel.org and use the debian tools to build them. in this case apt-get will not work |
| 01:14.33 | Zap-W | I want to scan new Emails , forward the text to an ICQ client then have it SMS it to my phone using ICQ. |
| 01:14.46 | Zap-W | any ideas |
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| 01:15.04 | Crell42 | Zap-W: This sounds like a job for.... procmail! |
| 01:15.24 | stoned | Whats a good domain name, for a personal/professional site. I plan to put my business brochure and resume there too, so it has to be something I can tell to businesses. Any suggesstions, I think nyle.tk is gay, it was temp. anyway. |
| 01:15.29 | Crell42 | And if you're using ICQ, then it's not SMS. SMS is a different animal. |
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| 01:15.47 | Crell42 | stoned: I went with LastnameTech.com |
| 01:15.49 | stoned | Its going to be about just simple pc tech/repair and stuff |
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| 01:15.58 | stoned | ahh |
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| 01:16.03 | FieldySnuts | badgertech.tld |
| 01:16.06 | Zap-W | Crell42: yes but my phone company allows free of charge sms messages from icq |
| 01:16.10 | Neo|Laptop | peterS: selecting a partition only gives me this: http://www.neothermic.com/debian/DSCN2194.JPG |
| 01:16.15 | stoned | like JTech or JavidTECH or something |
| 01:16.21 | stoned | since my last name is Javid |
| 01:16.27 | Crell42 | Zap-W: I'll take your word for it, just pointing out pedantically that ICQ and SMS are different networks. :-) |
| 01:16.29 | stoned | good idea |
| 01:16.40 | stoned | I like that, any other powerwords you can suggest? |
| 01:16.52 | marton | any sylpheed users here? anyone know how to switch the font on the interface (File, Edit, View, etc) to match the rest of the desktop |
| 01:16.53 | marton | ? |
| 01:16.58 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: as I feared, rc2 hasn't integrated resizing NTFS into the user interface |
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| 01:17.05 | stoned | Crell42, word man, I like that TECH idea :) |
| 01:17.06 | Crell42 | Eh, punch some common word into a registrar's search feature. |
| 01:17.21 | stoned | but maybe I could find something a bit more casual |
| 01:17.25 | stoned | any other suggesstions? |
| 01:17.25 | Neo|Laptop | peterS: options then? |
| 01:17.28 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: NTFS resizing is relatively new to the linux world at all |
| 01:17.32 | pzin | stoned, *.tk does not sounds like an extention for a spyware company |
| 01:17.35 | Crell42 | When I did that, it came back with LastnameTech, iLastname, eLastname, LastnameWeb, and various other variants. |
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| 01:17.36 | Rebecca | just curious.. but how much does sarge net install have to initially download? |
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| 01:17.43 | peterS | Neo|Laptop: you *can* hit alt-f2 and get a command shell and run 'ntfsresize' and 'cfdisk' manually, to do this |
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| 01:17.50 | pzin | stoned, I mean it does |
| 01:17.58 | Neo|Laptop | that sounds... dangerous IMO |
| 01:18.01 | Zap-W | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.02 | justdust | me too |
| 01:18.05 | corallis | shingouz: ok, thanks.. am i going to have to recompile my kernel in order to get them to work, or will having the source in /usr/src be enough? |
| 01:18.14 | stoned | pzin, it has one harmless popup which is easily blocked by firefox or other browsers, and its free simple domain forwarding |
| 01:18.19 | jors | Rebecca: there is a netinstall of 30mb, and another of 100, more or less |
| 01:18.24 | Crell42 | Zap-W: OK. Then you'd want to use procmail to run a script that does that under certain conditions. |
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| 01:18.30 | stoned | unless you can find me another free simple domain forwarder that doesn't have popups/ads |
| 01:18.32 | Rebecca | jors: ok, thanks :) |
| 01:18.37 | Crell42 | Never having used procmail myself, I can't help you with syntax. :-) |
| 01:18.43 | stoned | or if you feel like paying for a domain for me :) |
| 01:18.44 | jors | Rebecca: not at all :P |
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| 01:18.47 | shingouz | corallis: you will need the vanilla sources, if you took the stuff off debian you cannot patch the orinoco driver at all. |
| 01:18.48 | Crell42 | stoned: dyndns.org? |
| 01:18.53 | FieldySnuts | @start an mta war |
| 01:18.56 | ravenbird | qmail is hard to configure |
| 01:19.04 | stoned | Crell42, too long to type something.tk is much easier |
| 01:19.12 | [OC]Arkaine | corallis- you could try knoppix which ahs the driver already |
| 01:19.14 | stoned | people are idiots and you have to cater to thier idiocy |
| 01:19.19 | [OC]Arkaine | and is debian based |
| 01:19.19 | stoned | sometimes... |
| 01:19.19 | corallis | shingouz: right, im getting it off kernel.org. once i have it though, do i need to recompile the kernel completely, or will having the source in /usr/src be enough? |
| 01:19.21 | Ober | *drewXXX* Hey sexy....Long time no see! Well, How've you been. Hold on a second, someone's at the door, can't talk right now, in the meantime check out my channel |
| 01:19.22 | Crell42 | Eh, you're on your own then. :-) I just shell out for a real domain. |
| 01:19.30 | Ober | bot is spammin g on JOIN |
| 01:19.38 | FieldySnuts | Ober: yeah i got that too |
| 01:19.40 | corallis | [OC]Arkaine: thanks for the suggestion, but id really rather not have to rely on a live Cd for wireless |
| 01:19.44 | stoned | Crell42, one day if Allah willing i'll have enough money for a domain :) |
| 01:19.46 | [OC]Arkaine | you'd need to recompile |
| 01:19.46 | shingouz | corallis: a new compile is in order |
| 01:19.50 | [OC]Arkaine | it can be installed |
| 01:19.52 | stoned | thanks for the suggestion, I'll go with somethingTECH |
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| 01:20.01 | Crell42 | hehe. $20/year at pairnic.com, and they're not even the cheapest. |
| 01:20.02 | corallis | shingouz: excellent, now i have an excuse to update my kernel now too |
| 01:20.04 | cliechti | peterS, ok device has the same rights as on the other box with USB mouse, but i don't get it working in X |
| 01:20.07 | Crell42 | Enjoy. |
| 01:20.09 | corallis | shingouz: thanks for the help |
| 01:20.11 | Zap-W | Crell42: right now i am using PAM modules that notifies me of new Mail |
| 01:20.13 | Crell42 | So no one knows about the subversion package?? |
| 01:20.25 | justdust | stoned: dot.tk handles dyn ip forwarding ? |
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| 01:20.38 | stoned | Crell42, why pay if it comes for free :) |
| 01:20.45 | stoned | justdust, how the heck should I know |
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| 01:20.50 | CoD-VX | #flood |
| 01:21.00 | shingouz | corallis: i have had better luck with 2.6.9 so far. easier to patch but maybe you should just apt-get a 2.6 off debian first and then compile your own 2.6 off vanilla sources |
| 01:21.04 | stoned | Crell42, at the cost of one measly little easily blocked popup |
| 01:21.08 | stoned | i think its worth it |
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| 01:21.13 | WillR | how do i get bootlaoder prompt if it jsut auto loads one kernel!!! |
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| 01:21.24 | shingouz | corallis: the orinoco monitor mode is a bit of a pain to install |
| 01:21.47 | corallis | shingouz: yeah, i know... ive done it before on my slackware box, but debian is quite a bit different |
| 01:21.47 | WillR | (lilo) |
| 01:21.50 | [OC]Arkaine | you can get a prompt with grub |
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| 01:21.55 | [OC]Arkaine | I don't think you can with lilo |
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| 01:22.01 | distempr | WillR, [Tab] |
| 01:22.13 | shingouz | corallis: do the kernel the debian way, a lot easier that way |
| 01:22.40 | kerpal | warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied is what i am recieving in my mail log as my smtp won't auth.. anyone know what file/socket i may need to adjust? |
| 01:22.43 | Crell42 | kernel-package is Officially Awesome(tm). |
| 01:22.44 | WillR | tab? |
| 01:22.49 | WillR | when do i pres tab... |
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| 01:22.58 | WillR | it just laods the kernel and then panics... |
| 01:22.59 | kerpal | and drewxxx is advertising #hardcoresex |
| 01:23.11 | corallis | shingouz: im not familiar with the debian way... is there any advantage to it other than its ease? i dont mind completely compiling a kernel by hand |
| 01:23.15 | FieldySnuts | alindeman: drewXXX is doing onjoin spams. |
| 01:23.32 | Crell42 | corallis: The advantage is that kernel-package gives you a .deb package that you can just install. |
| 01:23.34 | [OC]Arkaine | no advantage besides being easy to install/remove |
| 01:23.34 | Zap-W | i mean , can a cell phone company charge someone for receiving SMS ? |
| 01:23.43 | FieldySnuts | Zap-W: yes, and most do |
| 01:23.48 | Crell42 | Takes care of moving your modules around, updating lilo/grub, etc. |
| 01:23.53 | kerpal | Zap-W: doesn't that suck. |
| 01:24.05 | Crell42 | So no one knows about the subversion package?? |
| 01:24.09 | corallis | Crell42: alright, ill give it a try |
| 01:24.11 | FieldySnuts | apparently not |
| 01:24.23 | shingouz | corallis: yes there is. you get a nice deb out of the kernel, just dpkg -i the thing in |
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| 01:24.45 | Crell42 | corallis: apt-get install kernel-package. Then instead of make install, run "make-kpkg -rev Custom.1 kernel_image" |
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| 01:25.04 | FieldySnuts | @ops |
| 01:25.05 | ravenbird | [ops] Meet your friendly #debian operators: asuffield, bdale, bignose, bob2`, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, Hydroxide, lilo, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk |
| 01:25.06 | Crell42 | From your /usr/src/linux directory. It will put a .deb file in /usr/src/ that you can just install. |
| 01:25.12 | helix | FieldySnuts: ? |
| 01:25.12 | shingouz | i dont remember where the howto for the kernel compile was on the web but it is there, maybe someone knows if there is a nice factoid for it too ;) |
| 01:25.13 | FieldySnuts | drewXXX is onjoin msg spamming. |
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| 01:25.25 | Rez | no, he's not. |
| 01:25.27 | FieldySnuts | give it a second. |
| 01:25.30 | FieldySnuts | it's delayed |
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| 01:25.38 | helix | ah |
| 01:25.42 | FieldySnuts | owned. thangs gang |
| 01:25.56 | donpaolo | Hi guys! What about of debian-non-US? is it there o where is it? |
| 01:26.02 | Neo|Laptop | hehe |
| 01:26.02 | FieldySnuts | isn't ravenbirds @ops list a bit.. off? |
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| 01:26.52 | cliechti | hm... i have network problems here.. |
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| 01:28.19 | thorie | how do i copy all files from / and all subdirectories, except the /mnt directory, to /mnt ? |
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| 01:28.46 | FieldySnuts | heh. |
| 01:28.49 | man_in_shack | i accidentally overwrote a file on my ext3 partition. is there a way to get the old version back? |
| 01:29.09 | zinx | man_in_shack: absolutely |
| 01:29.14 | FieldySnuts | backups |
| 01:29.15 | zinx | man_in_shack: get it from your backups. |
| 01:29.15 | man_in_shack | zinx, how? |
| 01:29.16 | WillR | anyone know if i can somehow get a prompt from lilo upon startup? |
| 01:29.20 | man_in_shack | what backups? |
| 01:29.24 | man_in_shack | :+ |
| 01:29.25 | man_in_shack | :| |
| 01:29.25 | Zap-W | FieldySnuts: what? how is that possible , i mean it's like receiving a phone call you shouldnt pay for it |
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| 01:29.53 | FieldySnuts | Zap-W: when the nagios system at our work spammed the hell out of me and my boss (my fault), we found out real fast. |
| 01:30.01 | FieldySnuts | drew16: die. |
| 01:30.03 | [Cadet] | evening |
| 01:30.05 | [OC]Arkaine | cp -Rp * /mnt; rm -rf /mnt/mnt |
| 01:30.11 | [OC]Arkaine | assuming noting in /mnt/is mounted |
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| 01:30.52 | [OC]Arkaine | willr- use a live CD to fix your bootloader |
| 01:30.56 | FieldySnuts | perhaps a ban on *!*Pussy*@*dfw??.uu.net .. |
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| 01:31.05 | sbk | man_in_shack: there's an outside chance that if you haven't made too many writes on that file system, with great pain debugfs might give you some fragments that you could piece together. |
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| 01:31.31 | sbk | man_in_shack: I haven't done it, but have read google.wisdom about some who have |
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| 01:31.57 | kerpal | caphuso: you avail? |
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| 01:32.40 | WillR | <[OC]Arkaine> : im trying to!... i try to reinstall boot loader and it tries to format my drive! i dont wnat to lose everything |
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| 01:32.49 | [OC]Arkaine | ? |
| 01:32.59 | [OC]Arkaine | just edit /etc/lilo.conf |
| 01:33.03 | [OC]Arkaine | then do lilo -v |
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| 01:33.09 | WillR | i cant eit the conf file |
| 01:33.13 | [OC]Arkaine | err, after chrooting do lilo -v |
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| 01:33.34 | Neo|Laptop | devoice lilo? (dun tish) |
| 01:33.35 | [OC]Arkaine | boot live CD, mount root partition as writeable |
| 01:33.42 | [OC]Arkaine | edit /etc/lilo.conf as root |
| 01:33.46 | smj | This is funny. I've installed FC3 at work. up2date doesn't work, and no one in #fedora has responded. I would like to submit that apt has never caused me a problem in this regard. |
| 01:33.51 | [OC]Arkaine | reinstall lilo as root with lilo -v |
| 01:33.51 | WillR | whei tried mounting from shell it says theres NONE in my fstab |
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| 01:34.01 | flaco_ | where can i download a debian ISO with kernel 2.6? |
| 01:34.07 | awol | smj: so use apt for FC3 |
| 01:34.10 | Crell42 | smj: FC is a distribution for never, ever touching ANYTHING |
| 01:34.12 | [OC]Arkaine | what live CD you use? |
| 01:34.19 | WillR | sarge |
| 01:34.20 | awol | smj: it's far better than yum or up2date anyway |
| 01:34.21 | Crell42 | flaco_: The current Sarge NetInstall CD has 2.6 on it. |
| 01:34.29 | stew | flaco_: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 01:34.33 | Crell42 | You have to run linux26 at the boot prompt instead of just linux |
| 01:34.34 | flaco_ | Crell42 thk |
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| 01:35.06 | awol | smj: you have to install the gpg key iirc for up2date to work |
| 01:35.09 | Zap-W | Crell42: procmail actually shows the content of the mail or it's just a notifier? |
| 01:35.20 | [OC]Arkaine | mkdir /mnt/somefolder |
| 01:35.21 | FieldySnuts | @fuck yum and up2date |
| 01:35.30 | [OC]Arkaine | mount /dev/hdxx /mnt/somefolder |
| 01:35.34 | smj | awol: Already done. apt is being installed. |
| 01:35.34 | Crell42 | rofl |
| 01:35.42 | awol | hehe |
| 01:35.48 | cat | +3++ |
| 01:35.48 | WillR | fstab has all NONE entries |
| 01:35.51 | smj | Crell42: Don't get me started. :-P |
| 01:35.55 | man_in_shack | zinx, FieldySnuts, does ext3 have a built-in recovery/backup feature, or am i supposed to back up stuff myself? |
| 01:35.55 | Crell42 | Zap-W: Procmail lets you filter incoming mail based on various parameters, then run various arbitrary commands. |
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| 01:36.01 | cliechti | peterS, ok i figured it out... psmouse is also needed |
| 01:36.02 | WillR | if i do a df inshell it shows tmpfs and it shows ym hd.. the size matches.. used to avail |
| 01:36.06 | debian | We allow 'fuck' but can't tolerate penixstrike. |
| 01:36.09 | FieldySnuts | man_in_shack: no, you're supposed to have backups. |
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| 01:36.21 | peterS | cliechti: oh. yeah, I forgot to follow up about your problem. I could have told you that :/ |
| 01:36.21 | FieldySnuts | if you didn't, well, then in the future perhaps you will. |
| 01:36.23 | [OC]Arkaine | this is why I prefer having knoppix handy, but I bet I can dig up the scripts to build yourself and fstab |
| 01:36.28 | man_in_shack | FieldySnuts, well did you think i wouldn't be asking if i had backups of this particular file? |
| 01:36.30 | jbr | Zap-W: come to that you can do the same with exim .forward files... |
| 01:36.39 | FieldySnuts | @lart man_in_shack |
| 01:36.59 | man_in_shack | FieldySnuts, you see i thought it would be possible to recover the file cos it's a journalled filesystem |
| 01:37.23 | FieldySnuts | journaling does not protect against user error, it protects against system error. |
| 01:37.25 | Sliquid | is there a program specific for reading the linux gazette? |
| 01:37.27 | debian | man_in_shack: in your wildest dream. :) |
| 01:37.33 | FieldySnuts | now leave me alone |
| 01:37.51 | [OC]Arkaine | http://overclockix.octeams.com/rebuildfstab.tgz |
| 01:37.54 | FieldySnuts | consider backups in the future, becuase losing stuff sucks. |
| 01:38.17 | man_in_shack | FieldySnuts, it's not worth backing up this file. it's a save game that gets written VERY often |
| 01:38.18 | [OC]Arkaine | those scripts will amke an fstab, but you'll still have to make your own mountpoints |
| 01:38.22 | Zap-W | jbr: forward to where? it all goes to ~/Maildir , i need something that will monitor that , and paste new mail to stdout |
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| 01:38.41 | man_in_shack | i accidentally overwrote it, but it doesn't matter that much |
| 01:38.59 | mearls | which one should I install bind or bind9 ? I need a very secure dns server |
| 01:39.02 | jbr | Zap-W: start it with a "# Exim filter" line |
| 01:39.07 | cliechti | now, one problem left... ctrl+Fx doesn't work in the console unless i "loadkeys sg" what could that mean? |
| 01:39.08 | Crell42 | mearls: bind9 |
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| 01:39.20 | spilo | what is the best desktop environment for linux? |
| 01:39.23 | iratsu | My X session suddenly didn't want to start up anymore, i have no (EE) lines in the log file and all i get is "Caught signal 11. Server aborting" what should i do? |
| 01:39.25 | mearls | Crell42: thanks |
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| 01:39.37 | man_in_shack | spilo, that's a matter of opinion |
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| 01:39.57 | Crell42 | spilo: You're asking for a flamewar asking that question. :) |
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| 01:40.16 | mearls | Crell42: is bind9 secure from the default install? |
| 01:40.21 | peterS | hmm, so man_in_shack has a username 'btk' |
| 01:40.24 | cds | anyone know how to add pcmcia support to the kernal without a reinstall? |
| 01:40.26 | Sliquid | * |
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| 01:40.30 | peterS | in my town that means something he probably doesn't mean |
| 01:40.32 | spilo | ha ha ha |
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| 01:40.56 | Crell42 | mearls: I hope so, since I'm running it myself. :-) |
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| 01:41.24 | spilo | let me rephrase.. can you please tell me what desktop environment each of you are using so that I can determine which one i most popular among the active users in this chatroom? |
| 01:41.31 | mearls | Crell42: sweet, u running it as the primary or sec |
| 01:41.35 | Sliquid | gnome |
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| 01:41.39 | cds | spilo: gnome |
| 01:41.42 | Crell42 | spilo: I use/like/support KDE |
| 01:41.54 | [OC]Arkaine | KDE or fluxbox |
| 01:41.55 | cds | anyway, pcmcia anyone? |
| 01:41.56 | Crell42 | mearls: Only. It's for a private domain behind my firewall. :-) |
| 01:42.17 | mearls | Crell42: going to run it as my sec, just was wondering |
| 01:42.26 | spilo | 2 kde 1 fluxbox 1 gnome so far... |
| 01:42.30 | debian | spilo: kde |
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| 01:42.47 | Crell42 | I like KDE because it's very flexible. That, and KIOSlaves are AWESOME. :-) |
| 01:43.03 | spilo | 3 kde 1 fluxbox 1 gnome |
| 01:43.08 | iratsu | spilo: gnome |
| 01:43.09 | spilo | gnome , i use gnome |
| 01:43.11 | shingouz | !poll |
| 01:43.11 | dpkg | You wanna poll me? You can't handle polling me! |
| 01:43.17 | Sliquid | 2 gnome |
| 01:43.17 | spilo | 3 kde 1 fluxbox 3 gnome |
| 01:43.19 | [Cadet] | quartz |
| 01:43.22 | bbrazil | spilo: win98 |
| 01:43.22 | Sliquid | yeah 3 |
| 01:43.32 | Sliquid | hahaha |
| 01:43.34 | debian | Crell42: what's that? :) |
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| 01:43.48 | spilo | have fun bbrazil:) |
| 01:43.50 | Crell42 | KIOSlaves. All IO protocols are abstracted to a common interface. |
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| 01:44.08 | asg | spilo: throw one in for ion |
| 01:44.23 | Crell42 | So from Konqueror, the file manager (among other things), file://, http://, ftp://, sftp://, smb://, and assorted others all work more or less identically. |
| 01:44.28 | spilo | I got gnome |
| 01:44.37 | spilo | ion? |
| 01:44.39 | Crell42 | You also get things like audiocd://, which lets you drag-and-drop to rip CDs to various formats. |
| 01:44.42 | bbrazil | spilo: it works fine as a xserver, blackbox when I'm running X |
| 01:44.43 | dustmite | I'll stick with E. |
| 01:44.55 | asg | spilo: like screen for X basically (keyboard heavy, no mouse required) |
| 01:45.11 | debian | Crell42: it kinda cool. All done in konqueror? |
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| 01:45.21 | Crell42 | All done in KDE itself. |
| 01:45.33 | Crell42 | Konqueror just lets you use it to browse. You can also use most of them in most save dialogs. |
| 01:45.44 | spilo | 3 kde 1 fluxbox 4 gnome 1 ion |
| 01:45.57 | scarynetworkguy | Flux rules |
| 01:46.33 | cliechti | haha, astonishig how well the net works even if two boxes have the same static IP... at least seem my network problems be solved ;-) |
| 01:46.48 | cds | pcmca? anyone? |
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| 01:46.55 | spilo | bbrazil: i thought you vere joking.. i did not know win98 was a real one.. dumy me |
| 01:47.05 | spilo | or it was a joke? |
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| 01:47.08 | cds | pcmcia, even |
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| 01:47.20 | Crell42 | cds: If you recompile your kernel the non-Debian way, it will build the various modules. Then you can copy the module you need to the right place and modprobe it. |
| 01:47.30 | asg | cds: what about it? |
| 01:47.30 | Crell42 | I forget the syntax to do that, although I did it myself a week or two ago. |
| 01:47.34 | bbrazil | spilo: I'm currently sitting on win98SE puttyed into debian sshed into solaris |
| 01:47.37 | peterS | PCMCA - Micro Channel with a laptop form factor. (: |
| 01:47.37 | stew | cds: which kernel? |
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| 01:47.45 | stew | heh |
| 01:47.45 | asg | peterS: haha |
| 01:47.47 | justdust | windows 98 rules ! |
| 01:47.59 | shingouz | ok, isnt that enough of a poll already |
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| 01:48.16 | findme | win98, what is that -> recycle bin |
| 01:48.25 | stoned | ok, guys I have finally deleted all bullshit crap and have finally just went with something really simple and easy |
| 01:48.42 | iratsu | My X session suddenly didn't want to start up anymore, i have no (EE) lines in the log file and all i get is "Caught signal 11. Server aborting" what should i do? |
| 01:48.45 | spilo | puttyed? you cant be puttyed.. oyu mean telneted? |
| 01:48.56 | asg | iratsu: /msg dpkg signal 11 |
| 01:49.14 | asg | meh |
| 01:49.18 | asg | iratsu: /msg dpkg sig11 |
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| 01:49.26 | cds | crell42: no idea how to compile a kernal any way |
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| 01:49.38 | peterS | !kernal |
| 01:49.39 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 01:49.40 | cds | asg: how do I add kernal support? |
| 01:49.44 | man_in_shack | is there a list of the network cards supported on the netinst cds anywhere? |
| 01:49.47 | stoned | I got www.ajavid.tk and i am sticking to it, its my name and well, i can use for personal or business and it works out, thanks to all for suggessting things, also, i need 25 hits to have my domain up for 90 days, so if you can help a brotha out, just lynx to HTTP://WWW.AJAVID.TK or browse to it real quick, THANK you so much everyone :) |
| 01:49.58 | cds | stew: woody |
| 01:50.13 | spilo | one thing I always wondered: Is there a way to open a gui window like remote connection does in windows? |
| 01:50.16 | stoned | and I shall now stop telling my site before it gets considered spam :( |
| 01:50.26 | asg | cds: why not use the debian kernels? |
| 01:50.32 | Crell42 | spilo: X forwarding. |
| 01:50.43 | shingouz | spilo: vnc |
| 01:50.50 | cds | asg: isn't woody a debian kernel? |
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| 01:50.55 | spilo | X firwarding.. is it an application? |
| 01:51.12 | asg | cds: no, woody is Debian version 3.0, it's default kernels are 2.2.20 and 2.4.18 |
| 01:51.12 | stoned | Crell42, hey, dude, that tech was a good idea but i just went with first initial/lastname |
| 01:51.19 | asg | s/it's/its/ |
| 01:51.22 | Crell42 | No, it's a feature of the way X works. |
| 01:51.25 | asg | !apostrophesmite asg |
| 01:51.26 | stoned | simple enough to work out :) |
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| 01:51.30 | Crell42 | stoned: Fun. |
| 01:51.34 | JeffWilson12 | Maybe not entirely related to debian but ... what would be a recommended FTP daemon? I've heard great things about VSFTPD, and I've heard things about ProFTPd too....which one in your opinion(s) is better? |
| 01:51.48 | scarynetworkguy | JeffWilson12: apt-get install ssh |
| 01:51.48 | asg | JeffWilson12: neither, ftp sucks balls |
| 01:51.52 | stoned | now to make an effective broshure and business site :) |
| 01:51.55 | Crell42 | JeffWilson12: Use SSH and SFTP. |
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| 01:52.08 | jbr | cds: for added confusion, see http://packages.debian.org/woody |
| 01:52.08 | spilo | what si the best ftp client for linux? |
| 01:52.09 | stoned | considering I have no marketing or business experience |
| 01:52.10 | JeffWilson12 | Crell: haha, good suggestion =) |
| 01:52.30 | cds | yep, i'm confused |
| 01:52.35 | iratsu | asg: and what should i do about this? |
| 01:52.46 | thorie | what's Xdialog? do I need it |
| 01:52.48 | Crell42 | spilo: X is client/server. Normally, the client and server are just on your own computer, but it's quite simple for them to be on different computers. |
| 01:52.54 | asg | iratsu: well, getting and running memtest86 is a start |
| 01:53.07 | Crell42 | But I've not done it myself, and have to run out, so ask someone here or in #Xfree86 for the details. :- |
| 01:53.19 | smj | Wow... ftp sucks balls... such a powerful argument. I'm moved... |
| 01:53.19 | man_in_shack | hmmph |
| 01:53.20 | asg | stoned: oswd.org |
| 01:53.21 | iratsu | asg: ok |
| 01:53.29 | FieldySnuts | @kill ftp |
| 01:53.32 | stew | cds: what kernel version are you runnging? (uname -r) |
| 01:53.36 | cds | jbr: ah yes.. er.. it's i386 3.0rl stable |
| 01:53.43 | spilo | I have some account on a remote linux box.. can i connect to it gui way? |
| 01:53.50 | FieldySnuts | vnc |
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| 01:53.55 | Crell42 | FTP is very insecure. It's like telnet. Use SSH for your own security. |
| 01:54.01 | asg | spilo: xterm -e ssh <remote box> |
| 01:54.11 | justdust | why do I allways type shutdows instead of shutdown ? |
| 01:54.16 | gbuilds | apt-get install ??? for Net/IRC.pm on perl? |
| 01:54.20 | cds | stew: 2.2.20-idepci |
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| 01:54.32 | stew | cds: /msg dpkg real kernel |
| 01:54.36 | asg | gbuilds: apt-cache search Net::IRC |
| 01:54.47 | man_in_shack | eep @ 2.2 kernel :P |
| 01:55.00 | asg | gbuilds: or libnet-irc-perl |
| 01:55.08 | WillR | im at lilo boot loader..... is there neway for me to edit the lilo.conf file..boot loader only shows ONE kernel image and its a bad one.. there is anotehr one ont eh system but i commented it out in lilo.conf.... |
| 01:55.09 | asg | !idepci |
| 01:55.09 | dpkg | 2.2.20-idepci makes Baby Tux cry. apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.20 or kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 or similar. You didn't read the final section of the install guide (/msg dpkg install guide). Go read it before we laugh at you :) |
| 01:55.10 | cds | stew: now i'm more confised |
| 01:55.16 | gbuilds | i have that installed, asg |
| 01:55.19 | WillR | anythign i can type to get temp root privelges to edit? |
| 01:55.20 | cat | debian should have a handbook like freebsd, |
| 01:55.28 | FieldySnuts | and you can write it |
| 01:55.29 | cds | dpkg: I would, if I had a net connection... |
| 01:55.29 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, cds |
| 01:55.44 | gbuilds | Can't locate NET/IRC.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/pe |
| 01:55.49 | cat | !handbook |
| 01:55.57 | [OC]Arkaine | willR- can't su? |
| 01:56.07 | FieldySnuts | @fist cat |
| 01:56.08 | bbrazil | spilo: cygwin |
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| 01:56.27 | cds | so nobody can help me? |
| 01:56.44 | WillR | all i have in front of me is boot: |
| 01:56.49 | WillR | i donno what to type here |
| 01:56.54 | FieldySnuts | hehe debian |
| 01:56.55 | jbr | cds: do you have a cd set? |
| 01:57.02 | asg | gbuilds: erm, why is it looking in /usr/local? |
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| 01:57.15 | cds | jbr: just one cd a mate gave me a while back |
| 01:57.17 | FieldySnuts | :) |
| 01:57.19 | smj | cds: You do realize that dpkg is... well... different, don't you? |
| 01:57.33 | gbuilds | asg: I duno |
| 01:57.33 | FieldySnuts | http://www.doyouwant2cds.com/ (not clean) |
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| 01:57.44 | stew | cds: apt-get install kernel-image.4.18-1.686 kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-1-386 |
| 01:57.49 | cds | smj: a bot? yes |
| 01:58.02 | asg | gbuilds: it should be at least looking in /usr/share/perl5 (for Net/IRC.pm) |
| 01:58.22 | gbuilds | Can't locate NET/IRC.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at bot line 2. |
| 01:58.32 | asg | gbuilds: does 'perl -V' show where @INC points to (at the bottom of the listing.) |
| 01:58.44 | asg | gbuilds: don't paste it, though, since it will be more than 3 lines. |
| 01:59.11 | gbuilds | yeah, asg |
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| 01:59.31 | mago | [OC]Arkaine>Thank's for your http://overclockix.octeams.com/rebuildfstab.tgz |
| 01:59.57 | cds | stew: thats not on the CD, it seems |
| 02:00.20 | jbr | cds: try dowloading a newer kernel-image "manually" from http://packages.debian.org to wherever you are now |
| 02:00.34 | spilo | what is a good ftp client for gnome? |
| 02:00.41 | Xenguy | gftp |
| 02:00.47 | cds | hmm.. would it be worth downloading and burning the newer version of debian? |
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| 02:00.52 | asg | gbuilds: and /usr/share/perl5/Net/IRC.pm does exist? |
| 02:00.53 | cds | I believe it has sarge now? |
| 02:01.08 | pipeline | cds: You can upgrade easily the same way you receive security update.s |
| 02:01.12 | pipeline | cds: Downgrading is ugly, however. |
| 02:01.17 | asg | cds: if you are already running woody, you can upgrade (/msg dpkg woody->sarge) |
| 02:01.21 | gbuilds | ya |
| 02:02.09 | asg | gbuilds: then the code is in error. |
| 02:02.10 | fdarling | has anyone here seen someone, at least formerly called, "toggle"? |
| 02:02.24 | asg | gbuilds: it appears to be looking for NET/IRC.pm and should be Net/IRC.pm |
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| 02:02.35 | iratsu | asg: probably not a good thing if memtest gives me a segfault, right? |
| 02:02.36 | asg | !seen toggle |
| 02:02.37 | dpkg | toggle <~gordon@pool-68-162-243-187.bos.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 27d 56m ago, saying: 'Well, it's prolly the hardware because apt went nutty when I tried to install less.'. |
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| 02:02.43 | asg | fdarling: ^^^^ |
| 02:02.43 | SharkY | hi |
| 02:02.47 | *** part/#debian umfufu (~Administr@pop044-fw.dhcp.pop.k-net.dk) |
| 02:02.55 | asg | iratsu: erm, no :/ |
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| 02:03.00 | cds | asg: will this require a net connection? |
| 02:03.00 | fdarling | asg: Sharky? |
| 02:03.08 | jbr | cds: in what sense do you not have a network connection? |
| 02:03.11 | SharkY | yy |
| 02:03.15 | asg | fdarling: no, above (/msg dpkg seen toggle) |
| 02:03.16 | iratsu | asg: what should i do about that? |
| 02:03.18 | asg | cds: yes |
| 02:03.20 | cds | jbr: no internet. Nothing. nada. |
| 02:03.20 | [OC]Arkaine | mago- you welcome, that's from knoppix |
| 02:03.33 | cds | no network card, cos is pcmcia |
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| 02:03.41 | justdust | the roof is on fire |
| 02:03.42 | asg | iratsu: well, try reseating your memory. If you have more than once chip, remove one and see if you get better results. |
| 02:03.50 | jbr | cds: no access to a machine that can run an irc client? |
| 02:03.56 | fdarling | asg: toggle is online, but its a different toggle... i mean, does anyone know the PERSON, and know if he changed usernames |
| 02:04.10 | cds | jbr: yes, but not via my laptop |
| 02:04.12 | asg | fdarling: the toggle in the dpkg database hasn't been here in 27d |
| 02:04.21 | fdarling | asg: :-| |
| 02:04.24 | iratsu | asg: ok, i'll try that |
| 02:04.41 | servers | i am trying to get my cisco airo 350 wirelesscard running and i cant get it to get up. does onyone knwo this card? |
| 02:05.24 | jbr | cds: get the kernel that supports your nw card and put it on the laptop by, eg, floppy |
| 02:05.29 | cliechti | what do people use to record from the TV with a bttv card? |
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| 02:05.48 | asg | [OC]Arkaine: I'm sure the fine folks in #knoppix would be interested |
| 02:05.49 | cds | jbr: how? I know bugger all about kernals |
| 02:06.17 | shingouz | cds: does pcmcia work in the first place? |
| 02:06.28 | servers | the card wont dhcp, and i get link encap:UNSPEC in ifconfig |
| 02:06.35 | cds | shingouz: no, i think i didn't include support whilst installing it |
| 02:06.36 | jbr | cds: (and I know little about pcmcia) |
| 02:06.37 | Guerin | !kernal |
| 02:06.37 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 02:06.44 | asg | Guerin: been there, done that |
| 02:06.51 | FlimFlamMan | i have a hard disk connected via ieee1394. how do i set up an entry in fstab so that the OS doesn't halt on boot when it can't mount that partition? |
| 02:07.00 | shingouz | cds: modconf the pcmcia in place |
| 02:07.04 | Guerin | asg: didn't help, though :( |
| 02:07.07 | cds | shingouz: how do I do that? |
| 02:07.08 | debian | FieldySnuts: you like this website do you? :) |
| 02:07.14 | asg | FlimFlamMan: put 'noauto' as an option (and arrange to have it mounted some other way.) |
| 02:07.21 | asg | Guerin: no, sadly |
| 02:07.22 | servers | all so is modconf in sarge? |
| 02:07.22 | FieldySnuts | i'm innocent |
| 02:07.25 | shingouz | cds: as root type modconf |
| 02:07.29 | FieldySnuts | i bet you like it though hehe |
| 02:07.30 | shingouz | servers: yes |
| 02:07.44 | servers | shingouz : what package |
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| 02:07.47 | debian | FieldySnuts: immensely |
| 02:07.54 | cds | shingouz: ah, right.. |
| 02:07.55 | FieldySnuts | debian: hehehe! |
| 02:07.56 | shingouz | servers: modutils i think |
| 02:07.59 | justdust | shingouz: why doesn't that work anymore in sarge ? |
| 02:08.06 | FieldySnuts | bad debian |
| 02:08.11 | [OC]Arkaine | nah, no action in #knoppix |
| 02:08.15 | maestro[] | FlimFlamMan: That should not happen at all |
| 02:08.15 | shingouz | justdust: i have no idea, works for me at least |
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| 02:08.28 | FlimFlamMan | asg: this is the entry i had been using: /dev/sdb1 /mine ext3 rw,user,noauto 0 2 |
| 02:08.29 | FieldySnuts | @knoppixsmite [OC]Arkaine |
| 02:08.31 | debian | FieldySnuts: I couldn't help relating that with you when I see 'nuts' in your name. XD |
| 02:08.47 | FieldySnuts | debian: bad bad BAD debian @>--,--- |
| 02:08.50 | cds | shingouz: which network card do I choose if it's a netgear? |
| 02:08.55 | mago | [OC]Arkaine>I've just bookmarked http://overclockix.octeams.com/ |
| 02:08.55 | FlimFlamMan | maestro[], when i say "halt" i mean "enter root pwdc for maintenance or press ctrl-d to resume..." |
| 02:09.13 | shingouz | cds: nothing that looks even close to it? ne2000? |
| 02:09.42 | debian | FieldySnuts: @>--`---,----- |
| 02:10.00 | FieldySnuts | aw thanks |
| 02:10.13 | cds | shingouz: ne3210? says thats novell tho.. |
| 02:10.18 | shingouz | cds: not sure which one it is but you have to configure pcmcia first |
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| 02:10.34 | cds | shingouz: and how do I do that? |
| 02:10.36 | maestro[] | FlimFlamMan: If you use noauto, the partition is not mounted at boot time. I guess your promlem is located somewhere else |
| 02:10.37 | [OC]Arkaine | live cds=nice maintenance tools for a real OS |
| 02:10.54 | FlimFlamMan | maestro[], ok, but if i remove that line there's no problem |
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| 02:11.02 | shingouz | cds: dont you see anything that looks like pcmcia in modcof? |
| 02:11.13 | cds | shingouz: where abouts will it be? |
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| 02:11.27 | shingouz | cds: uhhh.... |
| 02:11.46 | shingouz | cds: try block or misc |
| 02:11.46 | cds | shingouz: isn't pcmcia the type of card, such as PCI? |
| 02:11.53 | cire | I need my script to test whether eth0 is up or not. How would you do tht? |
| 02:12.13 | cds | cire: grep iftables ? |
| 02:12.16 | shingouz | cds: pcmcia is the bus (?) i guess |
| 02:12.42 | cds | shingouz: I can't see anything :S |
| 02:12.54 | maestro[] | FlimFlamMan: *hm* |
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| 02:13.02 | cds | cire: try iftables|grep eth0 - and then you can do weird stuff with the output |
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| 02:13.30 | servers | shingouz : i have both modutils and modules-init-tools and its not in either |
| 02:13.36 | cire | cds: I am new in scripting. How may I do "weird stuff" with the output? |
| 02:13.40 | asg | FlimFlamMan: then remove the '2' (so it the system doesn't attempt to fsck check the drive at boot) |
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| 02:13.58 | shingouz | cds: if you have a totally fresh installation on the laptop you just might consider reinstalling the system from the debian netinstaller cd, might be the easiest way |
| 02:14.02 | FlimFlamMan | asg, thanks - change to 0 or just remove? |
| 02:14.08 | asg | FlimFlamMan: change to 0 |
| 02:14.10 | Guerin | cire: | weirdprogram |
| 02:14.19 | FlimFlamMan | thanks a lot ( maestro[] too ) |
| 02:14.30 | cds | cire: hmm... search google can't remember now |
| 02:14.36 | maestro[] | FlimFlamMan: Well, I didn't do anything :) |
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| 02:14.52 | cds | cire: stuff like only getting one part of the line.. do iftables|grep eth0 and look at the output |
| 02:15.00 | shingouz | servers: im not sure why you dont have modconf there, i just installed a sarge here and it sure has modconf. maybe youre not trying it as root |
| 02:15.02 | classko | http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/ (good firewall) |
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| 02:15.15 | cire | but i do not want to invoke a new script. I want to do "ifconfig | grep eth0" and have the output in a variable |
| 02:15.22 | Guerin | cire: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html |
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| 02:15.37 | asg | cire: VAR=$(/sbin/ifconfig | grep eth0) |
| 02:15.53 | cire | asg: thanks a lot! |
| 02:16.04 | cds | shingouz: i'd rather not, x server was a bugger. How hard can it be to acticate pcmcia support? |
| 02:16.04 | servers | shingouz : i am root, i tried it and also did updatedb, and also sis locate modconf .. nio... no luck here. |
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| 02:16.30 | asg | cire: for portability, you can also do VAR=`/sbin/ifconfig | grep eth0` |
| 02:16.52 | shingouz | servers: maybe someone else is able to answer that question |
| 02:16.58 | shingouz | cds: lemmeseenow.. |
| 02:17.20 | shingouz | cds: do you have the pcmcia modules installed in the first place on the system? |
| 02:17.22 | asg | servers: for sarge, apt-get install modconf |
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| 02:17.37 | cds | shingouz: no idea, the config file wasn't there, if that helps |
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| 02:17.44 | servers | asg : thansk bro |
| 02:17.51 | asg | servers: you're welcome |
| 02:17.53 | servers | asg : know wireless any |
| 02:17.56 | nvz | yeah buddy.. Intermittant Internet connectivity |
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| 02:18.15 | nvz | talk about a PIMA |
| 02:18.21 | asg | servers: some |
| 02:18.26 | debian | !pima |
| 02:18.38 | shingouz | cds: try apt-cache search pcmcia, you should find the modules there for the kernel you run now |
| 02:18.39 | asg | debian: pain in my ass |
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| 02:18.43 | Trev1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:18.48 | debian | asg: thx |
| 02:18.56 | debian | !pima is pain in my ass |
| 02:18.56 | dpkg | okay, debian |
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| 02:19.20 | debian | nvz: I'm on a non-Intermittant Internet connectivity! |
| 02:19.20 | shingouz | cds: of course once you locate the correct package you have to apt-get it in, then try modconf again and the modules should be there |
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| 02:19.35 | cds | shingouz: pcicma-cs came up there... |
| 02:19.38 | nvz | debian: must be nice |
| 02:19.50 | debian | nvz: I think they want to refer to something like WAP |
| 02:19.51 | servers | asg : i have cisco aironet card fully supported in nix, prob is i cannot get it up and running, if i set it to dhcp it trys to get lease on 255.255.255.255 and not 255.255.255.0.. also i get this wifi0 Link Encap:UNSPEC |
| 02:20.05 | servers | asg : any ideas on where to look for my prob? |
| 02:20.08 | shingouz | cds: hmmm.... lemme check a few things, ok |
| 02:20.28 | asg | servers: hmm, I'd try to configure it in /etc/network/interfaces (you can provide a netmask there.) |
| 02:20.29 | ZyV | only a question please: with LiLo i can run lilo to write it into mbr, wich is the same command on grub ??? |
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| 02:20.44 | cds | shingouz: and thats already installed |
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| 02:20.51 | encrypt | iptables - i have blocked all ports except 20 and 21. now i face a long delay on ftp responses. any idea? |
| 02:21.02 | shingouz | cds: kernel-pcmcia-modules-<version> |
| 02:21.13 | stew | ZyV: grub-install (read /usr/share/doc/grub) |
| 02:21.23 | cds | shingouz: what version? |
| 02:21.26 | id10t | servers have you tried the ACU from cisco? its just like the early clients for the first cisco/aironet 340/350s... |
| 02:21.29 | ZyV | yeah i do it stew but nothin happens |
| 02:21.35 | id10t | servers in windows |
| 02:21.37 | shingouz | cds: the same version as your kernel |
| 02:21.40 | ZyV | i do: grub-install /dev/hda3 stew |
| 02:21.53 | asg | encrypt: can't remember but if ftp uses ident, you might need to open 113/tcp |
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| 02:22.10 | servers | id10t : ye ai tried that |
| 02:22.29 | cds | shingouz: apt-get install? |
| 02:22.31 | servers | id10t : then i rand the bcard util to write the conf |
| 02:22.34 | shingouz | cds: yes |
| 02:22.49 | encrypt | asg i have my ftp server configured not to use ident. also, 113 port is allowed |
| 02:22.52 | initech | encrypt: tcpdump will show you the problem. at first guess I'd say name services |
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| 02:22.58 | id10t | servers i've only played with it once, for about 3 minutes... 3 years ago. |
| 02:23.08 | asg | encrypt: is it trying to resolve reverse dns for inbound traffic? |
| 02:23.09 | cds | shingouz: couldn't find module |
| 02:23.24 | servers | id10t : cool thanks for the input though :) |
| 02:23.26 | encrypt | asg: reverse dns is also disabled on ftp server |
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| 02:23.36 | encrypt | it only happens when i turn my firewall ON |
| 02:23.38 | ZyV | only a question please: with LiLo i can run lilo to write it into mbr, wich is the same command on grub ??? |
| 02:23.39 | initech | encrypt: what do you mean you "blocked all ports"? |
| 02:23.41 | ZyV | i did: grub-install /dev/hda3 but nothing happens |
| 02:23.47 | Eklipz | I just installed a new debian kernel with with make-kdpg and dpk -i... now when I go to boot from my new kernel Im getting the error: "VFS cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown block(0,0)", followed by a kernel panic that tells me its unable to mount root fs on block(0,0)... any ideas what went wrong? |
| 02:23.48 | asg | encrypt: then I would drop the firewall, fire up tcpdump (or ethereal) and find out what it is trying to do |
| 02:23.57 | cds | shingouz: thats when running kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-idepci |
| 02:24.00 | shingouz | when setting up a small irc network, do all the ircd's have to be the same or is it possible to run, say, bahamut and unreal on the same network? and what about the services then, do they have to be the exact same version across the network? |
| 02:24.01 | stew | ZyV: for mbr you would want /dev/hda |
| 02:24.11 | ZyV | ok stew |
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| 02:24.14 | ZyV | lets try |
| 02:24.16 | asg | encrypt: note, however, that firewalling ftp effectively is very difficult if not impossible. |
| 02:24.17 | encrypt | initech: allow some ports and then iptables -A input -j DROP |
| 02:24.22 | encrypt | oh |
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| 02:24.51 | shingouz | cds: the cd you have there does have at least some kernels on it i guess, try to find a kernel that has the pcmcia modules available and apt-get both of them in place |
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| 02:24.52 | id10t | w0000000000T! |
| 02:25.04 | id10t | whoops..sorry wrong channel |
| 02:25.06 | asg | encrypt: see if clients using PASV have better luck (slightly easier to deal with than ACTIVE ftp) |
| 02:25.23 | encrypt | thanks |
| 02:25.26 | asg | encrypt: also, you could attempt to use iptables ftp support |
| 02:25.27 | initech | encrypt: just set the default policy. with that you need to make sure your rules allow for state |
| 02:25.30 | cds | shingouz: and how do I do that? |
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| 02:25.55 | shingouz | cds: apt-get, dselect, aptitude... |
| 02:26.14 | cds | shingouz: that doesn't help. I'm thick. |
| 02:26.32 | encrypt | Oh, i found the problem, when I do not use pasv, it goes ok |
| 02:26.47 | encrypt | if i try to use pasv, it delays |
| 02:26.47 | servers | asg : still getting this dhcpdiscover on 255.255.255.255 port 67 |
| 02:27.18 | shingouz | cds: ok :) apt-cache search for the kernel-pcmcia-modules and make a note of the versions available, then try to see if you can find a kernel with the same version number. once you find a matching pair, apt-get it in place |
| 02:27.29 | encrypt | thanks asg |
| 02:27.31 | asg | servers: well, the broadcast packets that dhcp sends out use 255.255.255.255 as a netmask. |
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| 02:27.39 | id10t | servers thats normal startup for a dhcp client... or rather, i get that in my /v/l/messages on startup for a working dhcp client |
| 02:27.46 | cire | if grep returns nothing in var=$(/sbin/ifconfig | grep foo), my script tells me, that if [ $var = "" ] expects an unary operator. |
| 02:27.50 | asg | servers: it appears that you aren't getting any responses from your DHCP server |
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| 02:28.15 | cds | shingouz: a search brings up nothing... |
| 02:28.15 | servers | ok will try another idea |
| 02:28.25 | id10t | servers assign a static so you can be sure it is working |
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| 02:28.41 | asg | servers: look for DHCPOFFER in /var/log/syslog. |
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| 02:29.55 | shingouz | cds: apt-cache search pcmcia |
| 02:29.59 | asg | cire: try if [ "x$VAR" = "x" ] ; ... |
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| 02:30.13 | cds | shingouz: nothing... |
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| 02:30.24 | cire | ahh... okay. I have to earn those cheats. thanks. |
| 02:30.32 | cire | s/earn/learn |
| 02:30.34 | cds | no, wait |
| 02:30.40 | asg | cire: the Advanced Bash Scripting guide will help there |
| 02:30.42 | shingouz | cds: you sure you are root on a debian system ;) |
| 02:30.47 | initech | encrypt: try tcpdump. the problem appears with the client to me |
| 02:30.54 | cire | I'll have a look at it. |
| 02:30.55 | asg | cire: the one Guerin mentioned earlier |
| 02:30.57 | cds | libdiscover1 |
| 02:31.04 | cds | discover-data |
| 02:31.07 | cds | netenv |
| 02:31.11 | cds | and pcmcia-cs |
| 02:31.22 | cds | (pcmcia-cs is already installed) |
| 02:31.24 | encrypt | initech its ok now. just not to use passive and it is ok. thanks |
| 02:31.34 | shingouz | cds: what exactly did you install the stuff from in the first place? |
| 02:31.42 | cds | a cd... |
| 02:32.00 | cds | bah, i'm off to bed... |
| 02:32.11 | initech | encrypt: this is a good explanation - http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html |
| 02:32.13 | soften | netinstall is good. netinstall is your friend. internet is your personal package delivery system. |
| 02:32.22 | shingouz | cds: the reinstall fro the netinstall is not too bad if the only problem is the X |
| 02:32.24 | shingouz | oops |
| 02:32.25 | shingouz | :) |
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| 02:32.50 | encrypt | ty again |
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| 02:34.23 | cire | thanks for your help. My script is working now. Later, I will have a closer look on the advanced bash scripting guide |
| 02:34.31 | asg | cire: you're welcome |
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| 02:35.24 | initech | encrypt: if you open ports > 1024 on your server PASV mode will work fine |
| 02:35.35 | nvz | whoo hoo.. how long has my connection been active now.. almost 20 minutes |
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| 02:35.41 | Supaplex | or you could just use perl :o} |
| 02:35.42 | asg | !win nvz |
| 02:35.43 | dpkg | Congratulations, nvz! You have won the US presidency! |
| 02:36.06 | encrypt | i just have 20 and 21 open, and active ftp works great.. so i think i dont need pasv :) |
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| 02:36.47 | imad | hi. sorry for being stupid, but i have completely forgotten what does a block mean? i am refering to the partition size mentioned in 'Blocks' when you use fdisk. I swear i knew this a few months back. can someone help? |
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| 02:37.19 | asg | imad: by default, a block is 512K |
| 02:37.19 | Supaplex | imad: you must have a brain block ;) |
| 02:37.34 | asg | erm, s/K/b/ |
| 02:37.40 | initech | imad: it's just the (lowest) discrete level the OS uses to interact with the disk |
| 02:38.11 | imad | and its 512KB? thanks mate. will try to keep it in the head |
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| 02:38.46 | servers | asg : id10t : i thinki might have it |
| 02:38.46 | Supaplex | imad: minus the K |
| 02:38.46 | asg | imad: no, don't listen to me, I'm discombobulated at the moment |
| 02:38.59 | initech | imad: that's pretty small :) |
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| 02:39.14 | soften | hey! how about one of those see-thru mac no-button mice. the whole mouse goes click. |
| 02:39.22 | nvz | ... and a microsoft "any key" keyboard |
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| 02:39.40 | initech | soften: they probably work great with gpm :) |
| 02:39.43 | imad | got that corrected. its 512B. |
| 02:39.48 | peterS | soften: too much clutter to keep three whole mice on my desk, then |
| 02:39.48 | initech | and not much else |
| 02:39.51 | peterS | soften: (yes, I do need the 3 buttons) |
| 02:40.04 | soften | i have two mice, 3 buttons each, both with scroll wheels. |
| 02:40.17 | soften | I would use only one mouse, but my second KVM switch has a dead mouse port |
| 02:40.17 | asg | peterS: "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. |
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| 02:40.36 | initech | soften: oh yeah? well i have three mice, including a foot mouse, all with five scroll wheels |
| 02:40.38 | peterS | asg: that's one good use. cutting an pasting text from one xterm, or one application in an xterm, to another, is the other use |
| 02:40.50 | asg | peterS: yes |
| 02:40.53 | soften | oh man I got outgeeked by the foot mouse for sure |
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| 02:41.17 | initech | soften: get a face mouse |
| 02:41.30 | initech | soften: gets the chicks all the time |
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| 02:41.55 | shingouz | initech: yea, makes them scream and run for cover |
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| 02:42.44 | peterS | /nick SmithW |
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| 02:42.58 | initech | hah |
| 02:43.17 | peterS | can't remember the poor guy's 4-digit UID |
| 02:43.29 | Sliquid | blackbox is having trouble finding debian-menu. any ideas? |
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| 02:43.47 | peterS | try a different box |
| 02:43.59 | peterS | by which I don't mean different hardware, but a different fork of that wm |
| 02:44.00 | asg | !info fluxbox woody |
| 02:44.05 | dpkg | fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.1.7-3 (woody), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 952 kB |
| 02:44.15 | nvz | soften: I think you mean the little round ones the iMacs had that had the two colored balls and the translucent tops.. only one half of the mouse was the button IIRC |
| 02:44.33 | Sliquid | all of the stipped down window managers cant find the debian menu |
| 02:44.36 | cire | there's a last question left: May I execute a command, whose output-lines (I do not know how many lines) get a string attached to the begin (for example a tab, or two spaces) |
| 02:44.39 | soften | the mouse itself compresses onto the lower half on this mouse; it came with the powerbook |
| 02:44.42 | Sliquid | fluxbox icewm |
| 02:44.47 | asg | nvz: useless for desktop navigation but okay for impromptu bolos in the office |
| 02:45.08 | peterS | asg: oh, indeed |
| 02:45.15 | soften | sliquid: I use icewm and like it. all debian packages show up. "just works" |
| 02:45.30 | cire | a keyword for the advanced bash scripting guide would also help. |
| 02:45.42 | Sliquid | it had a kde and gnome section |
| 02:45.50 | Sliquid | and then its own stuuf |
| 02:45.56 | Sliquid | but not the debian-menu |
| 02:46.18 | nvz | asg: my train of thought just steamed away without me |
| 02:46.34 | soften | no debian menu. the apps all land in odd places. but they appear as soon as I install a package. |
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| 02:47.32 | Sliquid | other than not eating your memory what is good about icewm? |
| 02:47.45 | Sliquid | i want to use fluxbox or blackbox |
| 02:47.46 | nvz | icewm makes me want to hurl |
| 02:48.04 | nvz | it looks a bit like win95 but its not nearly as good an interface |
| 02:48.13 | rich_ | Iv always used fvwm. It just has the features I need |
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| 02:48.26 | soften | nvz, apt-get install icewm-themes to get rid of the look you mention |
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| 02:48.38 | Sliquid | yeah it has a butt load of themes |
| 02:48.47 | RememberPOL | I finally found my stupid x windows problem... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/26/2003/09/2/90751 |
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| 02:49.11 | Sliquid | does anyone use blackbox or fluxbox? |
| 02:49.12 | mush | Sliquid: fvwm2 finds the debian menu. don't know if it's stripped down enough... |
| 02:49.24 | mush | i use ratpoison, very stripped down |
| 02:49.25 | bztunk | Sliquid: no. |
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| 02:49.40 | nvz | last time I seen icewm it was junk even with themes.. I remember a start-menu-like thing that didnt have half my programs, a desktop like thing with no seemingly easy way to put icons on it.. |
| 02:49.41 | Sliquid | ratpoison eh |
| 02:49.45 | nvz | nothing interesting |
| 02:50.01 | asg | mush: you should give ion a look then, same stripped downness with the added bonus of infinite lua hackage (if you need it) |
| 02:50.02 | NeoThermic | er, I see that there is 15 cd images for a debian install. I'm sure that not all are needed (I'm hoping), so for a base install, I'm assuming that I'll only need the first iso? |
| 02:50.05 | Sliquid | i liked it in damn small linux though |
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| 02:50.32 | nvz | ion is pretty sweet |
| 02:50.39 | bztunk | NeoThermic: netinst |
| 02:50.57 | Sliquid | i just tried ion |
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| 02:51.07 | Sliquid | its a little too stipped out for me |
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| 02:51.34 | nvz | Sliquid: sawfish is the wm's mamma, but ion is nice |
| 02:51.36 | servers | asg : id10t : i got thansk for your help |
| 02:51.43 | asg | servers: you're welcome |
| 02:51.44 | NeoThermic | bztunk: is that a good option, considering that its my first time installing a linux distro, and considering that I'll need this computer to still boot to windows? |
| 02:51.51 | rich_ | One really nice thing about fvwm is even though it has practically unlimited desktops, it dynamically allocates and releases the memory for them |
| 02:51.55 | iratsu | asg: memtest86 didn't give me any errors, but memtest gives me segfault |
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| 02:52.07 | iratsu | asg: what could that mean? |
| 02:52.16 | asg | iratsu: are you running an intel box? |
| 02:52.25 | iratsu | asg: an AMB |
| 02:52.28 | iratsu | asg: an AMD, even |
| 02:52.43 | Ugly_Duck | when you make modules on a kernel build.. does it change the modules.conf ? |
| 02:52.47 | bztunk | NeoThermic: yes. The difference between netinst and the iso is that netinst will download the necessary packages. |
| 02:52.51 | peterS | Ugly_Duck: no |
| 02:52.59 | Ugly_Duck | peterS: cheers |
| 02:53.07 | asg | iratsu: you might try memtest86+ |
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| 02:53.18 | iratsu | asg: ok |
| 02:53.20 | noob555 | hy |
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| 02:53.35 | NeoThermic | bztunk: ok, thanks |
| 02:53.49 | noob555 | doe you know in which debian package I could find IP/Country/Fast.pm ??? |
| 02:54.14 | bztunk | noob555: packages.debian.org |
| 02:54.23 | noob555 | it don't find it |
| 02:54.41 | noob555 | and I don't know how to install it throught PCRE |
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| 02:55.04 | secher | I'm trying to install horde for web based calendaring/contact lists, etc. I have no idea where to start. There is no "Howto" I can find, and no noob documentation in the Horde site. Does anyone know of docs or other help I might refer to so I know where to begin? |
| 02:55.20 | Guerin | !helpfile |
| 02:55.20 | dpkg | For help with foo, look in /usr/share/doc/foo There may be an examples/ directory there as well. |
| 02:55.36 | asg | noob555: probably not debianized, use 'dh-make-perl' to build a local custom deb |
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| 02:56.08 | budluva | would apt-get remove --purge postfix remove mysql for some reason? |
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| 02:56.53 | cat | !radio |
| 02:56.53 | dpkg | it has been said that radio is triplej.abc.net.au |
| 02:57.11 | asg | budluva: it shouldn't |
| 02:57.22 | Guerin | !radio is also http://radioactive.fm |
| 02:57.22 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 02:57.22 | iratsu | asg: could the source of my problem be this?: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fontslibspeedo.a:spencode.o": No symbols found |
| 02:57.23 | tchmnkyz | hey all just installed sarge tonight, upgraded to 2.6.9 and all of a sudden my wheel on my mouse stoped working anyone got an idea? |
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| 02:57.38 | asg | iratsu: no |
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| 02:57.59 | budluva | mysql isnt starting properly and i dont know why, i was working fine earlier today.... |
| 02:58.11 | budluva | smokey:/usr/bin# /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 02:58.11 | budluva | smokey:/usr/bin# |
| 02:58.11 | tchmnkyz | anyone? |
| 02:58.16 | asg | budluva: anything in /var/log/mysql/mysql.log? or /var/log/mysql/mysql.err? |
| 02:58.25 | budluva | no, .log and .err is empty |
| 02:58.35 | asg | budluva: how about /var/log/mysql.log |
| 02:58.45 | budluva | empty, already tried checkin all the logs |
| 02:59.06 | tchmnkyz | asg what would cause my wheel on my mouse to stop working in 2.6 when it works fine in 2.4? |
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| 02:59.21 | asg | tchmnkyz: /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse |
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| 03:00.26 | asg | budluva: does 'dpkg -l mysql-server' indicate that it is installed? |
| 03:00.49 | Guerin | budluva: if your mysql logs are empty, then either your server isn't running, or no clients are connecting to it |
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| 03:01.11 | budluva | asg, look at this in #flood |
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| 03:01.45 | romulo | how i remove a package with dpkg wich i dont know the exact name but know it partial |
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| 03:03.00 | vr_mex | when is the release date for debian's next major release? |
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| 03:03.08 | budluva | asg, thanks for lookin at that |
| 03:03.14 | Guerin | !wwrs |
| 03:03.17 | Guerin | !wwsr |
| 03:03.17 | dpkg | Sarge will release WIR; SIYH. Current estimates are N+30 days, where N is when debian-security updates for sarge come online. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/11/msg00015.html Ask me about <sarge pool>, <wir>, <siyh>, <sarge guess> and <sing sarge>. |
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| 03:03.34 | asg | budluva: you're welcome |
| 03:04.45 | Ronin | heh n + 30 :) |
| 03:04.45 | budluva | asg, ok well i can connect to phpmyadmin now |
| 03:04.45 | mohohaha | i need some god damn help about postfix+cyrus+sasl with ssl key, they refused to work together |
| 03:04.45 | budluva | asg, and my forums are working |
| 03:04.45 | asg | budluva: if you purged postfix, it is possible that all kinds of things could have been removed (an mta is required on a debian system, whether it be ssmtp, nullmailer, sendmail, exim, postfix, or qmail.) |
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| 03:04.46 | asg | budluva: ah, that's good |
| 03:05.10 | mohohaha | when postfix receive mail, does mail go directly into cyrus? |
| 03:05.18 | vr_mex | what is better fedora c3 or debian latest? |
| 03:05.20 | asg | mohohaha: only if it's configured to do so |
| 03:05.23 | Guerin | mohohaha: depends |
| 03:05.27 | Guerin | vr_mex: debian > * |
| 03:05.38 | Ronin | vr_mex: umm well seeing as we're #debian what do yo uthink? |
| 03:05.41 | mohohaha | i new that cyrus put mail in its spool, not mailbox |
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| 03:05.44 | asg | vr_mex: debian latest? |
| 03:05.55 | vr_mex | stable |
| 03:05.56 | Guerin | asg: VNS. |
| 03:06.03 | Guerin | !better |
| 03:06.04 | dpkg | better is probably a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 03:06.21 | stew | bar is better than foo |
| 03:06.39 | asg | stew: but baz trumps all |
| 03:06.48 | stew | better than a bar? |
| 03:06.50 | mohohaha | but, my question is, when i login to smtp with ssl, do i use cyrus? |
| 03:06.52 | vr_mex | how old is debian? |
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| 03:07.11 | Aracnido | hola alguien entiende espaņol |
| 03:07.11 | asg | vr_mex: well, I'm running stable on many boxes but wouldn't consider Fedora anything for them (if that helps) |
| 03:07.12 | Guerin | vr_mex: ~11 years |
| 03:07.17 | stew | !debian history |
| 03:07.17 | dpkg | i guess debian history is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history |
| 03:07.23 | budluva | asg, i think you told me this morning, but how do i connect to my smtp port 25 through telnet? when i try it just sits there blank... |
| 03:07.27 | vr_mex | was there linux before debian? |
| 03:07.35 | asg | budluva: telnet <ip> 25 |
| 03:07.44 | asg | vr_mex: yes |
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| 03:07.49 | Aracnido | alguien entiende espaņol para que me ayude please |
| 03:07.52 | budluva | asg, yar but it just sits there |
| 03:07.52 | Guerin | vr_mex: linux is a kernel. It predates the debian project. |
| 03:08.00 | vr_mex | ok |
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| 03:08.10 | vr_mex | thanks a lot |
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| 03:08.27 | asg | budluva: if you wait for 1.5 minutes, do you eventually get the smtp banner? |
| 03:08.29 | Guerin | !es |
| 03:08.30 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 03:08.46 | budluva | asg, no, just sits there |
| 03:09.05 | asg | budluva: what have you changed since this morning then :) |
| 03:09.07 | Anthro | My wife's machine is a Debian box I manage, and she wants a Wacom tablet for Christmas. I need to do the research to find out what will work well so I can give her parents the appropriate model number. Can anyone recommend a model that works well with GIMP and Debian? Also, is it particularly difficult to deal with? |
| 03:09.21 | bytecolor | anyone using a thinkpad with Sarge? |
| 03:09.27 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 03:09.27 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 03:09.42 | asg | bytecolor: I have sid on an R40 though Sarge was initially installed. |
| 03:09.43 | budluva | asg, well i apt-get remove --purge postfix |
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| 03:09.52 | budluva | asg, which fucked up a bunch of stuff |
| 03:09.59 | budluva | asg, so i dont really know how to fix it |
| 03:10.00 | asg | budluva: that would do it, install postfix again or some other mta |
| 03:10.03 | Anthro | bytecolor: Yes. |
| 03:10.07 | budluva | i did install postfix again |
| 03:10.34 | bytecolor | you guys/girls get sound working? (I did, but the volume is LOW) |
| 03:10.38 | humbolt | what the heck is xprint for? |
| 03:10.45 | Guerin | grrrrr, xdvi requires tetex-* and ~70MB of shit |
| 03:11.04 | Guerin | humbolt: printing, bizarrely enough. |
| 03:11.05 | asg | budluva: also, install 'at' and 'mailx' (since they would have been removed) |
| 03:11.08 | peterS | humbolt: it's an alternative print subsystem, I believe. the idea is old, but only recently got much attention |
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| 03:11.36 | miniwheats | [ Hellooo people! I am in tha house! ] [ Zero-Force Script] |
| 03:11.39 | miniwheats | hi |
| 03:11.47 | asg | bytecolor: install aumix and crank it up! |
| 03:11.54 | peterS | miniwheats: turn off that script, please |
| 03:11.54 | miniwheats | hello all |
| 03:11.56 | Guerin | miniwheats: make your script stop being stupid and evil |
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| 03:12.01 | humbolt | what is its relation to cupsd or lpd?? |
| 03:12.01 | asg | miniwheats: please, turn that off |
| 03:12.08 | bytecolor | aumix.. ok |
| 03:12.13 | budluva | asg, what other mta do you suggest than postfix? |
| 03:12.13 | humbolt | is it a substitute? |
| 03:12.14 | Guerin | miniwheats: or you will find your miniwheats swiftly pissed in |
| 03:12.24 | budluva | asg, i want something that will work with webmail |
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| 03:12.39 | tchmnkyz | ok asg i did that |
| 03:12.41 | tchmnkyz | it did not help |
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| 03:12.56 | Guerin | humbolt: yeah, it's a totally separate printing subsystem. There's nothing wrong with cups/lp*, you might as well use them instead. |
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| 03:13.01 | peterS | budluva: the MTA is pretty much independent of a webmail package |
| 03:13.03 | bytecolor | I've only tried festival and xmms |
| 03:13.06 | asg | budluva: I use exim, but any mta can deliver to a mbox (most to Maildirs) and almost all to imap servers that webmail can read from. |
| 03:13.09 | Anthro | Is there any reason why the Linux Wacom drivers are not in the Debian repository? Are there legal issues, or is it just that no one has bothered? |
| 03:13.09 | peterS | budluva: all the ones in Debian should be fine |
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| 03:13.32 | Anthro | It appears to be GPL. |
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| 03:13.55 | Guerin | Anthro: look at the BTS, see if there are any RFPs up for it |
| 03:14.01 | peterS | Anthro: check http://bugs.debian.org/wnpp |
| 03:14.04 | budluva | ok, so apt-get install exim will overwrite and remove my postfix? |
| 03:14.11 | peterS | Anthro: quite often you can find this sort of information on that page |
| 03:14.12 | Guerin | Anthro: or search through -legal |
| 03:14.15 | humbolt | xprint is installed when I chose desktop system in tasksel, so I am wondering why debian has choosen that one over cupsd?? |
| 03:14.17 | asg | Anthro: you might ask in #gimp (they probably have more immediate knowledge about such things (at least Linux compatibility)) |
| 03:14.36 | Guerin | #gimp on irc.gimp.org is a better bet than freenode |
| 03:14.40 | bytecolor | asg, many thanks |
| 03:14.41 | tchmnkyz | the mouse still works it is just the wheel |
| 03:14.46 | asg | bytecolor: you're welcome |
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| 03:14.58 | peterS | tchmnkyz: are you using the 'usbmouse' kernel module, or the 'usbhid' kernel module, or what? |
| 03:15.13 | Anthro | asg,peterS,Guerin: Thanks! |
| 03:15.45 | tchmnkyz | usbhid |
| 03:16.41 | peterS | tchmnkyz: that's odd, then. and in XF86Config-4 under the 'Generic Mouse' InputDevice section, you've got protocol ExplorerPS/2 ? |
| 03:16.45 | peterS | asg: heh |
| 03:16.45 | viyyer | I did a apt-upgrade kernel. and the kernel stuck.. how do I remove the last upgraded kernel.. the old one was 2.4.27 and the new one was 2.4.27 some 100 after that |
| 03:16.48 | humbolt | is there a way to use xprint via kde? |
| 03:16.56 | humbolt | what is the normal approach? |
| 03:16.58 | asg | peterS: :) |
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| 03:17.10 | cat | by apt-get removeing |
| 03:17.11 | tchmnkyz | yea |
| 03:17.18 | tchmnkyz | just no wheel still |
| 03:17.20 | budluva | asg, ok, after installing exim, i still cant telnet to 25, nmap shows 25 open though |
| 03:17.44 | cat | is exim running budluva ? |
| 03:17.52 | asg | budluva: are you telnetting to localhost or the external IP of your box? |
| 03:18.29 | budluva | ps aux | grep exim |
| 03:18.29 | budluva | root 9254 0.0 0.0 1536 464 pts/2 S+ 13:24 0:00 grep exim |
| 03:18.45 | cat | ok, |
| 03:18.48 | budluva | asg, and im telnetting to smokey which is just the machine name of my server, so localhost |
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| 03:19.05 | cat | budluva: try telneting your ip |
| 03:19.11 | initech | budluva: no. try the ip |
| 03:19.12 | peterS | tchmnkyz: I don't know that I can explain this one. have you got other USB devices working? |
| 03:19.14 | humbolt | what is the main advantage of xprint? |
| 03:19.15 | asg | budluva: does /sbin/ifconfig show you have a 'lo' interface (loopback)? |
| 03:19.46 | tchmnkyz | yea |
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| 03:20.38 | budluva | when i telnet to my ip i get Network error: connection refused |
| 03:20.50 | cat | budluva: is the telnet demon running? |
| 03:21.01 | budluva | i dont have telnet running, only ssh |
| 03:21.02 | asg | cat: he's trying to connect to ssh on 22 |
| 03:21.05 | peterS | tchmnkyz: I'm a bit puzzled, then. can you join the #flood channel and paste the output of "lsmod"? |
| 03:21.11 | budluva | no, port 25 telnet |
| 03:21.15 | budluva | not port 22 ssh |
| 03:21.19 | cat | asg: is telnetd running? |
| 03:21.23 | cat | asg: hmmmm read again, |
| 03:21.27 | peterS | tchmnkyz: I want to see if you have possible module conflicts in your mouse support |
| 03:21.29 | budluva | no, i dont use telnet |
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| 03:21.33 | rammstein | hi |
| 03:21.34 | rammstein | somebody knows about the 'null process' in linux ? |
| 03:21.42 | budluva | im trying to telnet to my smtp port to see my smtp banner |
| 03:21.44 | asg | cat: oh, he's trying telnet to his MTA, my mistake |
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| 03:22.05 | runixd | budluva, sup |
| 03:22.06 | cat | budluva: man telnet |
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| 03:22.25 | budluva | runixd, nm, just trying to get exim setup, yourself? |
| 03:22.34 | runixd | k |
| 03:22.40 | runixd | telnet localhost 25 |
| 03:22.43 | runixd | ehlo localhost |
| 03:22.47 | runixd | user: user |
| 03:22.55 | runixd | password: password |
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| 03:23.00 | asg | runixd: erm, no |
| 03:23.20 | insites | what discs do i NEED to download for a normal installation? |
| 03:23.24 | insites | 1 and 2? |
| 03:23.31 | Guerin | insites: 1 |
| 03:23.31 | cat | telnet -l user and ip |
| 03:23.35 | asg | !punish the lack of batteries |
| 03:23.39 | MerlinCorey | insites: Just the first |
| 03:23.40 | cat | lets see if that works |
| 03:23.42 | tchmnkyz | peterS, see flood? |
| 03:23.44 | MerlinCorey | insites: or just the netinstall |
| 03:23.47 | budluva | k well im stuck |
| 03:23.47 | peterS | tchmnkyz: yeah.. |
| 03:23.54 | runixd | no what |
| 03:23.56 | tchmnkyz | i know |
| 03:24.06 | tchmnkyz | i have never had this prob with 2.6 series |
| 03:24.06 | cat | budluva: try what i told you, |
| 03:24.07 | tchmnkyz | ever |
| 03:24.08 | peterS | tchmnkyz: that's one big advantage of modules - when something goes wrong it's easier to track down what (: |
| 03:24.09 | Guerin | insites: not even that; you can do a netinstall off a few floppies or a 40MB mini-iso |
| 03:24.13 | runixd | hmm nyway, back to silent |
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| 03:24.22 | defendguin | has anyone here used autopsy before? |
| 03:24.28 | peterS | tchmnkyz: out of curiosity (this really should make no difference), what mouse type have you got? |
| 03:24.29 | budluva | cat, i missed it, what did you tell me? |
| 03:24.34 | cat | telnet -l user and ip |
| 03:24.34 | peterS | tchmnkyz: like, the model |
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| 03:25.27 | tchmnkyz | wheel mouse m-bj58 |
| 03:25.27 | budluva | telnet localhost:25 |
| 03:25.27 | budluva | telnet: could not resolve localhost:25/telnet: Name or service not known |
| 03:25.30 | insites | thanks everyone... i already have discs 1 and 2 so ill just write them but in future ill just netinstall... give me a reason to use my business card cds :) |
| 03:25.36 | Robinson | http://members.cox.net/wiz-scoobs/snowball.html |
| 03:25.36 | peterS | tchmnkyz: ahh, logitech |
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| 03:25.47 | cat | interesting, |
| 03:25.54 | peterS | tchmnkyz: I haven't heard of problems with that model or for that matter any other logitech usb mice |
| 03:25.56 | budluva | but nmap shows port 25 open |
| 03:26.00 | runixd | budluva, telnet localhost 25 |
| 03:26.04 | runixd | no ":" |
| 03:26.17 | initech | budluva: port 25 on what interface? |
| 03:26.17 | budluva | telnet smokey 25 |
| 03:26.18 | budluva | Trying 192.168.1.1... |
| 03:26.18 | budluva | Connected to smokey. |
| 03:26.18 | budluva | Escape character is '^]'. |
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| 03:26.32 | insites | how is 802.11b support under debian? any support for netgear PCMCIA cards that anyone knows of? |
| 03:26.36 | tchmnkyz | and no solution to be found? |
| 03:26.39 | Rick-- | hi, how do i bring up a second ip on my interface . when i do ifconfig eth0:1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx up it dont work |
| 03:26.46 | budluva | initech, im tryin to connect to my smtp port to see if i can view my banner |
| 03:27.04 | peterS | tchmnkyz: I can't think of anything to try, particularly without the stuff being compiled as modules |
| 03:27.10 | runixd | budluva, what seems to be the problem then? |
| 03:27.14 | tchmnkyz | k |
| 03:27.15 | budluva | i cant |
| 03:27.18 | tchmnkyz | will do that in the am |
| 03:27.20 | dondelelcaro | insites: if the kernel supports it, Debian does. |
| 03:27.21 | runixd | what does it say |
| 03:27.23 | tchmnkyz | it is 10:30 already |
| 03:27.24 | budluva | when i try and connect its blank and it just sits there |
| 03:27.25 | tchmnkyz | thnx |
| 03:27.32 | cat | Rick--: ifconfig up |
| 03:27.40 | stew | Rick--: "dont work" could you be more descriptive? |
| 03:27.41 | peterS | tchmnkyz: well, there is one other thing you *could* try, but it depends on your having compiled PS/2 mouse support. you could use the USB->PS/2 adapter |
| 03:27.43 | initech | budluva: what happens when you telnet 192.168.1.1 25 ? |
| 03:27.49 | rich_ | thanks everyone, bbl |
| 03:27.55 | Rick-- | stew: i cannot ping but, i see it |
| 03:28.14 | peterS | tchmnkyz: I don't remember if that model is dual-protocol or not, but if it came with a USB->PS/2 plug, then it is. in which case, PS/2 mode might be more compatible with your kernel than USB mode is |
| 03:28.14 | runixd | where is 192.168.1.1 from ? |
| 03:28.25 | initech | runixd: from his flood |
| 03:28.25 | stew | Rick--: can't ping it from where? from the same machine or from another? |
| 03:28.25 | runixd | just use loopback, 127.0.0.1 |
| 03:28.32 | initech | runixd: that he got kicked for |
| 03:28.32 | Rick-- | same machine |
| 03:28.36 | budluva | initech, check #flood |
| 03:28.44 | runixd | initech, k |
| 03:28.49 | Rick-- | can i add someth to /etc/interfaces ? |
| 03:28.56 | runixd | no |
| 03:28.59 | tchmnkyz | k |
| 03:29.01 | stew | Rick--: yes |
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| 03:29.06 | runixd | you can add to /etc/network/interfaces tho |
| 03:29.17 | Rick-- | runixd: yes.. i meant that |
| 03:29.27 | initech | budluva: so it hangs? |
| 03:29.31 | stew | Rick--: man 5 interfaces, you can put eth0:1 in there just as you would eth0 |
| 03:29.39 | runixd | I'm just annoyed and trying to be pedantic, don't pay attention RichiH |
| 03:29.43 | budluva | initech, i guess |
| 03:29.48 | budluva | initech, doesnt show anything |
| 03:29.53 | peterS | stew: ewwww, eth0:1. I like putting multiple addresses on eth0 better, myself (: |
| 03:29.53 | runixd | *Rick-- |
| 03:29.56 | budluva | initech, tried with both postfix and exim now |
| 03:30.03 | initech | budluva: exim it most likely trying to do a reverse lookup and you have no reverse working |
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| 03:30.13 | stew | peterS: hey i'm just using his example |
| 03:30.18 | Rick-- | stew: ok.. |
| 03:30.27 | runixd | budluva, why are you connecting to 192.168.1.1 ? |
| 03:30.28 | budluva | initech, a reverse lookup on what? |
| 03:30.38 | initech | budluva: the connecting address |
| 03:30.41 | budluva | runixd, thats my local ip for my server (smokey) |
| 03:31.04 | runixd | connect to loopback |
| 03:31.19 | budluva | telnet cronicnet.no-ip.org 25 gives me the same thing |
| 03:31.25 | initech | budluva: try tcpdump when you try to connect and you will see what it is doing |
