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| 00:00.05 | veleno | asg thanks, i did with the HUP |
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| 00:00.46 | veleno | but still there are other opened ports on my system.. 111/tcp open rpcbind, what is this for, can i close ? i can't find it in inetd.conf |
| 00:00.47 | hedekar | Hi, I just put a new hard drive into my computer, what program do I run to format it to Linux, and do I need to do anything else or will Debian do the rest? |
| 00:01.01 | veleno | hedekar cfdisk to partition it |
| 00:01.05 | asg | veleno: /etc/init.d/portmap stop |
| 00:01.12 | brett | anybody know a work-around for sudo in unstable? |
| 00:01.33 | asg | brett: is there something wrong with it? |
| 00:01.40 | abrotman | brett: bts have one? |
| 00:01.50 | streuner | hedekar: do you have debian actually installed? |
| 00:01.57 | dondelelcaro | brett: which bug? |
| 00:01.58 | brett | see #283588 |
| 00:02.03 | brett | I'm having that problem |
| 00:02.03 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 283588 |
| 00:02.07 | dpkg | #283588:I[sudo] sudo: Authentification fails after update to version 1.6.8p3-2 |
| 00:02.12 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=283588 |
| 00:02.13 | hedekar | streuner: yeah, it's just a second hard drive I'm putting in |
| 00:02.21 | dondelelcaro | brett: downgrade for starters... |
| 00:02.24 | brett | hmm |
| 00:02.35 | brett | How do I downgrade? |
| 00:02.39 | asg | brett: older packages are at snapshot.debian.net (if you cleaned your cache) |
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| 00:02.41 | abrotman | !downgrade |
| 00:02.41 | dpkg | rumour has it, downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
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| 00:02.45 | abrotman | err .. |
| 00:02.45 | streuner | hedekar: cfdisk /dev/hd(x) and man mkfs |
| 00:02.47 | abrotman | that's no good |
| 00:02.49 | dondelelcaro | brett: apt-get install sudo=foovversion |
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| 00:02.57 | dondelelcaro | brett: or use aptitude; |
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| 00:03.03 | streuner | hedekar: you need to edit /etc/fstab as well |
| 00:03.20 | veleno | asg can I safely stop portmap? is there any reason it should be there? |
| 00:03.28 | stew | !portmap |
| 00:03.28 | dpkg | portmap is probably for sun RPC based services (like NFS and NIS). To disable it, simply remove the "portmap" package. |
| 00:03.30 | asg | veleno: do you use nfs? |
| 00:03.31 | streuner | NFS? |
| 00:03.51 | FieldySnuts | @fns |
| 00:03.52 | streuner | veleno: if you running a server it would be hard then... |
| 00:03.53 | FieldySnuts | @nfs |
| 00:03.56 | hedekar | streuner: how do I know which hd(#) |
| 00:04.03 | FieldySnuts | hm |
| 00:04.04 | streuner | hedekar: dmesg |
| 00:04.05 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: nfs? |
| 00:04.05 | brett | hmm how do I see what package versions are available? |
| 00:04.09 | abrotman | append topic to reflect borked sudo? |
| 00:04.12 | FieldySnuts | hm, msgs me instead. oh well |
| 00:04.21 | streuner | hedekar: kernel should find the HD |
| 00:04.23 | FieldySnuts | brb going insane1 insane2 insane3 |
| 00:04.41 | stew | brett: the bts listed a working verison number |
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| 00:05.17 | streuner | hedekar: well, we are talking about IDE _NOT_ SCSI |
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| 00:06.01 | hedekar | streuner: yup IDE |
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| 00:06.19 | Lazydog | i used the new debian installer to install dabian on my laptop. after everything is completed and i'm at the login screen it hard to read as the screen is set to the wrong type/ resolution. how can i fix this? |
| 00:06.21 | nvz | hedekar: dmesg | grep hd |
| 00:06.31 | nvz | hedekar: should give you a good view of the IDE devices |
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| 00:07.16 | FieldySnuts | mit hostnames are so cool |
| 00:07.17 | morten | OK .. it didn't quite work out .. :/ |
| 00:07.19 | abrotman | Lazydog: vga=771? |
| 00:07.28 | brett | hmm E: Version '1.6.7p5-2' for 'sudo' was not found |
| 00:07.43 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.55 | morten | My xserver runs, and thats fine .. but the "logo-key" is still bound to "super" ... what else do I have to change? Some Xmodmap file or something? |
| 00:07.56 | stew | brett: see if you have an old version in /var/cahce/apt/archives, or use sdn |
| 00:08.14 | brett | My cache is empty :( |
| 00:08.17 | brett | what's sdn? |
| 00:08.20 | Lazydog | abrotman: thnx will try that |
| 00:08.22 | stew | !sdn |
| 00:08.22 | dpkg | it has been said that sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. |
| 00:08.33 | streuner | stew: you beat me! :-P |
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| 00:08.56 | stew | <--- happy fingers would rather irc than code today... |
| 00:08.58 | morten | Who uses the logo key as "meta" here? |
| 00:09.11 | abrotman | morten: i don't have one |
| 00:09.25 | hedekar | streuner: when I'm in cfdisk, I don't want this HD to be bootable, only data, but it won't write a partition for me, it just says: No primToggle bootable flag fo the current partition |
| 00:09.27 | morten | stew ? |
| 00:09.35 | stew | if i had a logo key, id use it to do: repeat 4 [ fd 10 ; rt 90 ] |
| 00:09.44 | FieldySnuts | badger key |
| 00:09.45 | deepcore | I just wanna say something, thx that Debian Developers offers for us something called Debian & apt-get |
| 00:09.53 | deepcore | bye bye |
| 00:09.56 | FieldySnuts | bye |
| 00:10.00 | asg | FieldySnuts: on a happywangtek keyboard? |
| 00:10.04 | brett | ahh sweet |
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| 00:10.08 | brett | thanks! |
| 00:10.13 | nvz | damn.. I've been just falling asleep alot lately |
| 00:10.25 | abrotman | narcolepsy? |
| 00:10.28 | asg | nvz: get coffee, do jumping jacks |
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| 00:10.30 | nvz | something like that |
| 00:10.33 | abrotman | wow .. i think i broke my speller |
| 00:10.36 | deepcore | one more thing |
| 00:10.42 | deepcore | thx for sarge |
| 00:10.50 | deepcore | bye |
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| 00:10.57 | stew | !snuggle deepcore |
| 00:11.05 | asg | a drive by wuffling? |
| 00:11.10 | stew | guess so |
| 00:11.11 | streuner | hedekar: hm, lilo decides what HD boots and what not |
| 00:11.13 | nvz | I've no reason to be tired but still end up asleep |
| 00:11.21 | shingouz | could be. that was a new one tho |
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| 00:11.52 | nvz | well I did fight with microsoft windows alot in the past 2 days |
| 00:12.01 | nvz | thats downright tiring I suppose |
| 00:12.03 | hedekar | streuner: ok, nevermind, I just didn't realize it had written it, it was just warning me that it wasn't bootable |
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| 00:12.17 | streuner | hedekar: hehe, ok. |
| 00:12.26 | asg | nvz: perhps you have to turn your brain off, which causes drowsiness? |
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| 00:13.48 | morten | /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp |
| 00:13.50 | nvz | asg: yeah.. I called the toll-free number to try re-activate the XP machine after I moved the HD into a new box.. and I had to talk gibberish to the voice-recognition system for about 20 min before it put me through to some guy with a middle-eastern accent of somet kind |
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| 00:14.16 | streuner | haha |
| 00:14.16 | asg | nvz: ah |
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| 00:15.11 | streuner | nvz: and after all you needed 2 days - interesting :-) |
| 00:15.52 | nvz | the XP box was a PIII 733 w/ 512MB ram and 40gb hd.. HP Pavillion.. but the CPU fan duct was broken and making lots of noise.. and it was filled to the brim in dust.. so I put the HD, ram and DVD Burner in that 1ghz Thunderbird with an additional 128MB ram, and I am fixin to rebuild this PIII and I guess ues it in place of this PI 266 |
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| 00:17.06 | nvz | streuner: yeah, rich_ warned me I would end up needing a book of hex codes.. I explained to him I used to be a tech that fixed win9x all the time.. and I could handle the operation.. but he was right.. the thing spit out hex codes at me left and right.. and tried its damndest to get me to pay for tech support or buy a new pc |
| 00:17.37 | veleno | is it possible to don't let the root user to directly ssh into an account ? |
| 00:17.48 | hedekar | streuner: so when I'm editing /etc/fstab what should I put for the settings? Is it wrong to just copy what I have for my current bootable (and only) hard drive? |
| 00:17.55 | stew | veleno: /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 00:18.16 | streuner | hedekar: not a bad idea, but read man fstab first |
| 00:18.25 | stew | veleno: i think? you mean disallow to ssh in as root? |
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| 00:18.44 | ttl | if i recompile XFree and xfce4 would it make much difference on this AMD-K6 3 400mHz cpu ? |
| 00:18.59 | zinx | no |
| 00:19.00 | streuner | no |
| 00:19.05 | morten | hedekar : Is that really your name? |
| 00:19.14 | ttl | k |
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| 00:19.16 | zinx | unless you use l44t cflags and compile from the source instead of the binaries |
| 00:19.29 | morten | zinx l33t |
| 00:19.33 | zinx | no, l44t |
| 00:19.38 | zinx | better than l33t |
| 00:19.43 | ttl | sice i installed debian everything seems slower in XFree that's why i'm asking |
| 00:19.49 | veleno | stew: exactly. so i should add to the DenyUsers the root user. |
| 00:19.49 | FieldySnuts | @leet |
| 00:19.50 | ravenbird | /me is leet cos he can start lines with a / |
| 00:19.54 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 00:20.11 | nvz | @bw FieldySnuts |
| 00:20.13 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: you bot whore! |
| 00:20.15 | hedekar | morten: yeah, why? |
| 00:20.18 | FieldySnuts | gah |
| 00:20.19 | asg | veleno: there is an option in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to deny root logins |
| 00:20.23 | nvz | now thats funny |
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| 00:20.28 | ttl | before Debian there was mdk 9.1 on this machine |
| 00:20.32 | stew | veleno: man ssd_config and search for PermitRoot |
| 00:20.36 | zinx | ttl: that's probably because of your video driver |
| 00:20.37 | stew | veleno: err sshd_config |
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| 00:20.55 | zinx | ttl: either using a different one, or configured the same one differently |
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| 00:21.40 | ttl | zinx: ok |
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| 00:22.01 | priest | someone who can explain to me how i add "own" addresses in bind9? like if i would add my local ip addresses? |
| 00:22.14 | ttl | zinx: do you know what i should use for a ATI 3D Rage IIC AGP video card ? |
| 00:22.24 | thorie | what debian package is M in? |
| 00:22.35 | ttl | zinx: i'm already using the ATI driver |
| 00:22.35 | morten | priest : Probably - if they understand your problem. |
| 00:22.38 | zinx | ttl: ati :/ |
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| 00:22.42 | veleno | stew: found! thanks alot. |
| 00:22.53 | asg | thorie: apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search bin/M |
| 00:22.54 | zinx | ttl: try setting DefaultDepth to 16 instead of 24 |
| 00:22.54 | streuner | thorie: what command should that be? |
| 00:22.59 | stew | veleno: you're welcome |
| 00:22.59 | hedekar | morten: why do you ask if this is my name? |
| 00:23.09 | stew | priest: google for dns howto |
| 00:23.14 | zinx | ttl: also, how much system ram do you have? |
| 00:23.15 | morten | hedekar : Well, it looks almost like "Badekar". |
| 00:23.18 | ttl | zinx: ok i'll try that |
| 00:23.21 | stew | badger? |
| 00:23.30 | morten | !badekar |
| 00:23.31 | FieldySnuts | badger |
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| 00:23.43 | morten | !badekar is Bathtup in danish |
| 00:23.44 | dpkg | okay, morten |
| 00:23.46 | ttl | zinx: 255mb |
| 00:23.51 | asg | priest: also, installing the bind-doc package will provide some useful documentation. |
| 00:23.52 | hedekar | morten: what's signifigant about "Badekar"? |
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| 00:23.53 | zinx | ttl: k, won't be that then :) |
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| 00:24.08 | nichos | Hi all, does using dd on a bootable disk, make the target disk bootable? |
| 00:24.16 | zinx | ttl: hopefully changing the depth will make it faster :/ |
| 00:24.32 | morten | !tell hedekar about badekar |
| 00:24.36 | ttl | zinx: gonna try right now |
| 00:24.43 | zinx | nichos: floppy? |
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| 00:24.48 | RememberPOL | Hi i'm new to deb packages so i'd like to ask... What source can I add to /etc/apt/sources.list and what apt-get command should I run to install Firefox 1.0 ? (on Debian 3.1 woody->sarge) |
| 00:24.49 | veleno | nichos: what are you dd-ing ? |
| 00:24.52 | priest | asg: i can't find what i'm looking for in the documentation |
| 00:24.58 | justin | heh, I can't get my new server to use all its ram |
| 00:25.07 | hedekar | morten: that's weird, my dad is Danish |
| 00:25.09 | morten | hedekar "hede" == "the hot" or something like that. |
| 00:25.09 | nichos | zinx usb thumb |
| 00:25.11 | asg | justin: which debian? which kernel? |
| 00:25.14 | justin | every file and program cached and loaded only uses 900M or so |
| 00:25.14 | stew | nichos: yes, as long as the image you are dding from is meant to be bootable |
| 00:25.18 | humbolt | what do you guys thing about swap on raid 1? |
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| 00:25.30 | morten | hedekar : He'll know the word "badekar" then. :) |
| 00:25.31 | justin | asg: no, it's just that it is idle :-) |
| 00:25.35 | zinx | nichos: it should, but some BIOSes don't support booting from USB drives |
| 00:25.59 | nichos | zinx i know the one im using does, but its not easy making a bootable usb drive (windows bootable) |
| 00:26.02 | hedekar | morten: I'll ask him at christmas then |
| 00:26.06 | asg | justin: then you are in good shape (start something in java if you want to use the rest.) |
| 00:26.07 | nichos | thanks guys |
| 00:26.44 | morten | hedekar : "hede" means "heat" or "the warm" or "the hot" .. .. a warm summer could be a "hed sommer" |
| 00:26.51 | asg | justin: does 'free' show that the full amount is available? |
| 00:27.05 | justin | asg: yep.. it's working fine.. I just need to move more stuff onto it |
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| 00:27.16 | hedekar | morten: what about "kar" then? |
| 00:27.25 | justin | and probably coax postgres into using more ram |
| 00:27.31 | morten | hedekar : It can also mean an area with grasslike vegetation though, which I guess from where your name originates. |
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| 00:27.37 | lovebug | RememberPOL: your using sarge? |
| 00:27.45 | FieldySnuts | swap on any raid is bad, slow and pointless |
| 00:27.45 | hebelee | laaaaannnnnnnnn |
| 00:27.46 | asg | morten: well, a 'hed sommelier' would be a good friend to have |
| 00:27.47 | humbolt | or does anybody know how reliable the dmraid tool for ich5r bios raid is?? |
| 00:27.49 | RememberPOL | lovebug: I installed woody and upgraded to sarge, yes |
| 00:27.50 | morten | hedekar : kar is a bit complicated .. in the case of bathtup .. its "tup" .. |
| 00:28.09 | ttl | zinx: changed config, brb... restarting X |
| 00:28.10 | hebelee | mustafa nerdesinnnnnnnnnn |
| 00:28.13 | hubelee | where are you koduklarım |
| 00:28.18 | RememberPOL | How do I install firefox? |
| 00:28.19 | hubelee | buradayım |
| 00:28.19 | morten | asg :?) |
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| 00:28.34 | hedekar | morten: I was supposed to be an Andersen, but my great great grandfather hated that name so he picked hedekar |
| 00:28.35 | lovebug | RememberPOL: apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
| 00:28.36 | hebelee | aha la buldum mustayi la |
| 00:28.37 | asg | morten: head wine steward (I'm partial to libations) |
| 00:28.40 | shingouz | would a small irc network (about half a dozen nodes) be able to run mixed ircd's or is it better to just stick with one type? the existing ones are running unrealircd but id like to apt-get something in place instead of doing it from source |
| 00:28.43 | humbolt | FieldySnuts: But the system goes down, if swap is not on raid and a disk fails?! |
| 00:28.47 | RememberPOL | lovebug: i'll try that thanks |
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| 00:28.54 | xtapo | Um, I installed udev, and now I have no more /dev/cdrom... |
| 00:28.56 | FieldySnuts | @clue humbolt |
| 00:29.00 | morten | hedekar : but .. kar can also be something else .. vessel or .. "blodkar" .. is a pipe for blod in the human body (sorry about my lack of english) |
| 00:29.03 | lovebug | RememberPOL:but 1.0 might only be in sid, not sarge |
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| 00:29.18 | humbolt | FieldySnuts: wich means? |
| 00:29.22 | humbolt | which |
| 00:29.32 | xtapo | And my mouse has slowed for some reason, all thanks to udev. |
| 00:29.37 | asg | !info mozilla-firefox sarge |
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| 00:29.44 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0-4 (sarge), Packaged size: 9226 kB, Installed size: 26472 kB |
| 00:29.48 | xtapo | Any way I can fix it without uninstalling udev/hal? |
| 00:29.50 | asg | RememberPOL: ^^^^ |
| 00:30.08 | morten | hedekar : He probably lived on "heden" (the "hede"). :) |
| 00:30.09 | RememberPOL | asg: thx |
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| 00:30.36 | RememberPOL | lovebug: Oh but if i tried "apt-get install mozilla-firefox" in Woody then it definitely wouldn't work? |
| 00:30.37 | hubelee | kamile cay yok |
| 00:30.37 | thorie | is there a GT.M debian package in stable? |
| 00:30.39 | morten | hedekar : Do you happen to know if he lived in "Jylland" ? |
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| 00:30.54 | humbolt | FieldySnuts: doesn't it? |
| 00:30.56 | morten | hedekar : We talk of the "Jyske hede" sometimes. |
| 00:31.02 | FieldySnuts | @stfu humbolt |
| 00:31.04 | ravenbird | SHUT THE FUCK UP humbolt! |
| 00:31.16 | hedekar | morten: don't know about anyone past my grandpa, who was born in Fredrikshaven |
| 00:31.24 | asg | thorie: it would help if you told us what GT.M is? |
| 00:31.24 | RememberPOL | Also another question what scripts do i need to edit to change my default window manager / desktop environment (kdm, kde) |
| 00:31.25 | morten | hedekar : Cool |
| 00:31.38 | morten | hedekar : Frederikshavn is in Jutland (Jylland)!! |
| 00:31.41 | humbolt | ravenbird: ui ui ui, whatever I did, I am sorry. |
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| 00:31.42 | ravenbird | i don't know, humbolt |
| 00:31.57 | morten | @slap humbolt |
| 00:32.00 | thorie | asg: it's a database/language ... http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm |
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| 00:32.06 | asg | RememberPOL: #debian-kde can help with getting kdm/kde up and running |
| 00:32.10 | hedekar | morten: I knew of the name Jutland, just not Jylland |
| 00:32.11 | RememberPOL | asg thx |
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| 00:32.22 | hubelee | you shut |
| 00:32.23 | morten | hedekar "Jylland" is danish for "Jutland": |
| 00:32.28 | asg | thorie: how long has it been around? |
| 00:32.35 | thorie | asg: since 1971 |
| 00:32.59 | hedekar | morten, I'm actually considering moving to Arhus or Copenhagen one day |
| 00:33.00 | thorie | asg: probably earlier, in the 60's, but didn't take off until the 70's |
| 00:33.07 | hedekar | I'm in Vancouver Canada right now |
| 00:33.11 | stew | copenhagen sounds nice |
| 00:33.12 | morten | hedekar Ok :) |
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| 00:33.39 | asg | thorie: it depends on the license then, it might not be dfsg compatible and therefore not in Debian proper. |
| 00:33.41 | hedekar | morten: I hear there's some good music schools over there |
| 00:33.51 | morten | hedekar : You're a musician? |
| 00:34.02 | hedekar | morten: since I was four |
| 00:34.05 | man_in_shack | is there a reason why i'm getting 404 errors on libgcc1 when apt-get from ftp.au.debian.org? |
| 00:34.15 | morten | hedekar : Which intrument(s) ? |
| 00:34.18 | thorie | asg: It's straightforward GPL, unmodified license |
| 00:34.31 | morten | thorie : YOu mean GPL2? |
| 00:34.40 | hedekar | morten: piano, turntables, computer, and any other electronics or sound toys I can find |
| 00:34.45 | thorie | morten: no, just GPL |
| 00:34.52 | stew | thorie: check on apt-get.org, if its not there, maybe you should package it! |
| 00:34.58 | jcole | anyone here know how to expand an entire widget tree in gnome/gtk? in winduhs its NumLock+* (using the number pad) |
| 00:35.01 | asg | thorie: hmmm |
| 00:35.04 | morten | thorie : WIth or without "or, at your option, any later as published by the FSF" ? |
| 00:35.19 | hebelee | lan amina koduklarim niye kimse cevap vermiyoooooooooooooooooooo |
| 00:35.25 | morten | thorie : The afferio license isn't quite easy always. |
| 00:35.27 | hubelee | ı fuck everybody |
| 00:35.30 | hedekar | morten: I've actually just recently found out about Kashmir, and I really like their sound |
| 00:35.36 | FieldySnuts | english you eu bastards |
| 00:35.37 | morten | !lart hubelee |
| 00:35.37 | thorie | morten: I have no idea |
| 00:35.39 | hedekar | morten: oh, and Blue Foundation |
| 00:35.44 | hubelee | where are you |
| 00:35.45 | stew | hedekar: /j #debian.tr |
| 00:35.47 | stew | err |
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| 00:35.53 | stew | hubelee: /j debian.tr |
| 00:35.54 | hubelee | nerdesin kamil |
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| 00:36.08 | hubelee | gürcan amına koyi |
| 00:36.08 | hubelee | m |
| 00:36.08 | morten | hedekar : I don't know blue foundation .. but kashmir has a good sound to a lot of their music :) |
| 00:36.15 | RememberPOL | !info dpkg sarge |
| 00:36.19 | dpkg | dpkg: (Package maintenance system for Debian), section base, is required. Version: 1.10.25 (sarge), Packaged size: 1486 kB, Installed size: 4448 kB |
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| 00:36.21 | RememberPOL | :) |
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| 00:36.33 | asg | hubelee: please speak English or go away, there's a good chap. |
| 00:36.45 | RememberPOL | hubelee: (There was an error converting this message. Check the 'Encoding' option in the Account Editor) |
| 00:36.47 | xtapo | Could I remove udev and keep HAL happy? |
| 00:36.47 | ttl- | xirtam: seems it's a lot faster now |
| 00:36.48 | morten | !kill hubelee |
| 00:36.48 | RememberPOL | Lol @ Gaim |
| 00:36.51 | thorie | stew: a search for "sanchez" and a search for "gt\.m" both returned 0 results. i don't think there's a debian package |
| 00:36.56 | ttl- | xirtam: thanks! |
| 00:36.56 | thorie | stew: how do I make one? |
| 00:37.06 | RememberPOL | Down with Knoppix, up with Slax! :) |
| 00:37.18 | morten | !start a distro war |
| 00:37.19 | dpkg | Rock 0wnz! |
| 00:37.21 | veleno | to turn on ip_forwarding on 2.4.x i was using echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward. where is that in 2.6.9 ?? |
| 00:37.22 | hedekar | morten: cool, well it was good meeting you, I really do need to get this hard drive up and running though |
| 00:37.27 | FieldySnuts | wrong channel, you pat volkerding lackey |
| 00:37.27 | xtapo | Anyone? Udev? Not being able to use a drive is pretty damn bad. |
| 00:37.37 | RememberPOL | !start a distro war |
| 00:37.37 | dpkg | Rock is stupid! |
| 00:37.41 | morten | hedekar : Yeah .. |
| 00:37.42 | RememberPOL | Rock? |
| 00:37.43 | karsten | Where the fsck do you set file associations used in Galeon (1.3.17)? ps/pdf are opening with kghostview, I'd prefer gv. |
| 00:37.43 | RememberPOL | !start a distro war |
| 00:37.44 | FieldySnuts | lol |
| 00:37.46 | morten | !rock |
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| 00:37.47 | dpkg | i guess rock is dead! |
| 00:37.53 | FieldySnuts | @start a distro war |
| 00:37.54 | stew | thorie: apt-get install maint-guide; and read /usr/share/doc/maint-guide |
| 00:37.55 | ravenbird | Progeny 0wnz! |
| 00:37.57 | morten | Someone tampered with it :/ |
| 00:38.10 | thorie | stew: is it going to take a long time? |
| 00:38.16 | stew | thorie: yeah |
| 00:38.17 | budluva1 | can someone point me to a quick and easy tutorial on port forwarding? i want to forward port 22 on my gateway to port 22 on a machine on my lan so users can scp to my box inside my network |
| 00:38.24 | thorie | stew: ahh forget it :) |
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| 00:38.41 | xtapo | budluval: It depends on your router really. What make/model is it? |
| 00:38.49 | morten | hedekar : I wish you good luck with your music .. btw .. do you know magnatune.com? |
| 00:39.01 | budluva1 | err i use an old 533mhz for my gateway, its running debian |
| 00:39.01 | morten | hedekar: I've been listening .. oh well. |
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| 00:39.08 | karsten | budluva1: iptables HOWTO. |
| 00:39.12 | budluva1 | and the machine i want to connect to is using debian as well |
| 00:39.19 | budluva1 | i cant use iptables, i use ipmasq |
| 00:39.28 | stew | budluva1: can't? why? |
| 00:39.29 | karsten | budluva1: Um. Yes you can. |
| 00:39.39 | xtapo | budluval: Ahh, comp as a router. Sorry, I misunderstood your question. |
| 00:39.41 | karsten | budluva1: ...alternatively, ssh port forwarding. I'd do iptables myself. |
| 00:39.44 | budluva1 | does ipmasq not flush iptables when ipmasq is initialized? |
| 00:40.04 | unstable_help | hey I just want to say thanks to everyone in the channel who offered help. With your tips and a ton of reading, I managed to fix a 98% corrupt live production box, and resurrect it to a fully functioning web server. Only took me 36 straight hours. |
| 00:40.13 | morten | !lart unstable_help |
| 00:40.17 | hebelee | hi gay and girls,gey :) |
| 00:40.23 | FieldySnuts | @gay |
| 00:40.23 | ravenbird | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 00:40.25 | asg | unstable_help: cool, congratz |
| 00:40.25 | unstable_help | again thanks to you all |
| 00:40.36 | morten | unstable_help : You're wellcome .. I guess you had a hard time though .. |
| 00:40.43 | morten | unstable_help : Wellcome to Debian! |
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| 00:41.33 | hubelee | morten ,hi :) |
| 00:41.57 | Zero_Dogg | hebelee: please don't msg me like that. This is not a channel where you grab random people and msg them asking for asl... |
| 00:41.59 | hubelee | ulen bizi sikleyen yokmu:_ |
| 00:42.03 | karsten | budluva1: ipmasq is a capability of iptables/ipchains. It's orthogonal. |
| 00:42.03 | xtapo | man, I love this |
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| 00:42.18 | FieldySnuts | somebody stop the non engrish |
| 00:42.20 | unstable_help | morten: cant even explain it. simplest way to put it. a live webserver with customers, dist-update nuked packages, killed service and left open only 1 ssd session, from that managed to re-establish net connect, fix the 100's of dependancy bugs, and then finally get it up to current version... |
| 00:42.20 | karsten | budluva1: ...what you'd do is edit your firewall script(s), add the forward(s), and rerun the script(s). |
| 00:42.28 | kingsley_ | What's a good way to convert a string into an image containing the corresponding bar code? |
| 00:42.32 | karsten | budluva1: ...takes a second or so to reset the firewall. |
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| 00:42.45 | budluva1 | hrmm... |
| 00:42.48 | mustafa | hi |
| 00:42.53 | karsten | kingsley_: Get a barcode font. |
| 00:42.58 | RememberPOL | Why does Debian prefer GNOME to KDE? |
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| 00:43.03 | budluva1 | well first of all whats a good firewall script? as i dont think i have a firewall installed |
| 00:43.12 | stew | RememberPOL: it doens't |
| 00:43.33 | abrotman | RememberPOL: it doesn't |
| 00:43.44 | karsten | budluva1: If you're doing ipmasq, you do. |
| 00:43.55 | RememberPOL | stew: I i thought it did because it seems to use gnome as default, and also the GNU site talks about how Qt is evil but I think that was an older version..before the QPL *shrug* |
| 00:44.00 | budluva1 | karsten, ??? |
| 00:44.09 | stew | RememberPOL: what uses gnome as default? |
| 00:44.15 | xtapo | Anyone have any idea on how I can fix udev, or where I can go for help? |
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| 00:44.28 | budluva1 | karsten, i didnt know ipmasq acts as a firewall |
| 00:44.31 | stoned | stew, Gnoppix |
| 00:44.31 | karsten | budluva1: Just a shell script. I've got one, very minimal, from Rusty Russell's HOWTO, another from a rather longer guide I might be able to look up. There's a few FW builder tools, I've never figured any of 'em out. |
| 00:44.34 | stoned | :) |
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| 00:44.38 | abrotman | RememberPOL: depending where you stand .. Qt still is evil |
| 00:44.54 | karsten | budluva1: ipmasq is generally something you'd configure in the same script(s) your FW is using. |
| 00:45.17 | karsten | budluva1: ...and a "firewall" is just a set of shell commands determining packet filtering/dropping/accepting/logging policies. In theory. |
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| 00:45.47 | budluva1 | ok |
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| 00:46.06 | karsten | kingsley_: kbarcode, barcode packages. apt-cache search barcode. |
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| 00:46.11 | budluva1 | so how do i edit ipmasq to add my forwards? |
| 00:46.13 | Huggs | Hi there any Video capture / Web cam gurus here? : ) |
| 00:46.20 | karsten | budluva1: Define "ipmasq". |
| 00:46.22 | budluva1 | or am i supposed to edit my iptables? |
| 00:46.27 | stoned | oh hell yes six feet under! |
| 00:46.32 | stoned | how the hell |
| 00:46.39 | budluva1 | karsten, when i talk about ipmasq, im talkin /etc/init.d/ipmasq |
| 00:46.41 | karsten | budluva1: Create a script. Call it "firewall". Put it somewhere. If you want it to run at boot, put it under /etc/init.d/ |
| 00:46.45 | madmax | hello mates |
| 00:46.45 | stoned | why are they playing six feet under on mtv |
| 00:46.47 | karsten | budluva1: With an editor. |
| 00:46.52 | stoned | mtv is gay pop shit, how come death metal |
| 00:46.54 | stoned | holy fuck! |
| 00:46.57 | budluva1 | karsten, lol me no good at scripting |
| 00:47.10 | nvz | mtv has like nothing to do with music |
| 00:47.17 | kingsley_ | karsten: Unless I'm mistaken, barcode doesn't accept strings as input and kbarcode seg faults. |
| 00:47.23 | kyncani | budluva1: you may check out shorewall or firestarter |
| 00:47.23 | mustafa | hi george micheal |
| 00:47.33 | budluva1 | i've tried shorewall before |
| 00:47.37 | nvz | if a 12 year old girl calls up and screams her little head off, they might play like a minute or two of a music video |
| 00:47.38 | stoned | nvz, word |
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| 00:47.49 | budluva1 | and i couldnt get shorewall working |
| 00:48.07 | mustafa | tarak isteyen:) |
| 00:48.20 | kyncani | budluva1: firestarter is simpler i think |
| 00:48.23 | mustafa | tarak isteyen:) |
| 00:48.31 | Huggs | Just wondering if there is a consensuious on which cheep redily available Web Cam to go for when runnig a 2.6 kernel. I've had a good look arround and there seems to be some good stuff on the Logitech Quick Cam Express |
| 00:48.34 | budluva1 | Jay's Iptables Firewall anyone ever used this as a firewall script? |
| 00:48.35 | tell | !turkish |
| 00:48.35 | dpkg | i heard turkish is #turklug, or #debian.tr, or trke yardm iin #debian.tr |
| 00:48.45 | jcole | wait a minute, NumLock+* expands gtk/gnome trees also... doh! |
| 00:48.47 | stoned | Im gonna gouge out my eyes, and rip out my tounge, I should just puncture my ears, I'm not alive now! *headbang* |
| 00:48.48 | knightabe | Huggs, I have one, it's good. |
| 00:49.00 | stoned | heh, i havn't heard this song since I was 12 |
| 00:49.16 | peterS | that's pretty redundant |
| 00:49.17 | peterS | !turkish =~ s/or #debian.tr, // |
| 00:49.17 | dpkg | OK, peterS |
| 00:49.26 | Huggs | knightabe: is that the one with the bilt in mic? |
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| 00:50.02 | karsten | kingsley_: Sucks to be you ;-) |
| 00:50.05 | stoned | ahhhh, nvz, mtv has a show called Amped where they play metal, and somtimes oldschool death metal, and they labled it as thrash! |
| 00:50.06 | stoned | omg |
| 00:50.13 | stoned | thrash?! fuck mtv :/ |
| 00:50.49 | tell | Huggs : i got my creative webcam NX Pro working here |
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| 00:51.27 | tell | Huggs : http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/cameras.html |
| 00:51.28 | peterS | is hebelee spamming anyone else with random junk in /msg, or am I just that special? |
| 00:51.51 | nvz | peterS: must just be you |
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| 00:53.12 | peterS | oh, so hebelee == mustafa, at least by IP address |
| 00:53.28 | karsten | budluva1: FW scripts are something of a black art. I got stuff that works, but couldn't tell you just how right here. Smoothwall is strongly recommended by friends. |
| 00:53.44 | karsten | budluva1: http://www.smoothwall.org/ |
| 00:53.59 | asg | stoned: they are actually playing music on mtv and not reality tv? |
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| 00:54.03 | karsten | budluva1: AFAICT, it's a firewall distro through. |
| 00:54.09 | stew | budluva1: fwbuilder creates nice scripts |
| 00:54.38 | budluva1 | i've used jays iptables firewall in the past and its the only thing that i've been able to get working correctly |
| 00:54.38 | Huggs | tell: thats wicked! how did you find that? |
| 00:54.42 | stoned | asg, i just witnessed a death metal song, Six Feet Under - Nonexistence |
| 00:54.48 | nvz | I think I could save myself some aggrivation and use this Creative labs USB sound card.. Audigy NX or whatever it is.. for my "media-center" pc.. I can play the music with mpd in theory once it has perms to my music dir.. but I need an easy way for anyone to adjust volume as well, and the nx has a remote and controls on it as well |
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| 00:54.54 | budluva1 | but i'll give shorewall another shot if your willing to answer some of my questions :P |
| 00:55.10 | asg | stoned: hmmm, just flicked over to an interview with Ludicris or somesuch |
| 00:55.18 | tell | Huggs : i've spend a lot of time getting searching for my nx pro drivers |
| 00:55.26 | nvz | I was thinking about using a joystick and jslaunch to do the mixer.. but who knows.. its still up in the air |
| 00:55.26 | asg | stoned: some CoB on mtv would be a welcome change though. |
| 00:55.45 | peterS | CoB? |
| 00:55.51 | asg | peterS: Children of Bodom |
| 00:56.06 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.08 | asg | peterS: the vocals are shit but the music has some surprising good bits |
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| 00:56.31 | asg | peterS: s/vocals/growling|mastication|baying/ |
| 00:56.38 | peterS | asg: ha, right |
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| 00:56.58 | seraph1el | so know debian is a metal-channel? ;) |
| 00:57.05 | peterS | seraph1el: yes |
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| 00:58.21 | karsten | budluva1: Here's a friends fwbuilder-generated iptables script: http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=74573 |
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| 00:58.31 | guestish | hi |
| 00:59.02 | FieldySnuts | gShield is a good straightforward script too |
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| 00:59.46 | man_on_server | hmm ... i see there's a gcc-4.0 directory in the debian mirror ... |
| 00:59.46 | guestish | whats up? |
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| 01:00.00 | guestish | is gcc 3.4.x coming to unstale? |
| 01:00.02 | guestish | unstable* |
| 01:00.10 | asg | unstale, heh, I like that |
| 01:00.12 | guestish | !info gcc-4.0 |
| 01:00.13 | guestish | :) |
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| 01:00.40 | guestish | almost does work better doesnt it |
| 01:00.46 | peterS | guestish: gcc 3.4 has been in unstable for some time |
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| 01:01.22 | peterS | guestish: but since 4.0 isn't even released upstream yet, naturally Debian hasn't got it (: |
| 01:01.26 | man_on_server | guestish: i can apt-get install gcc-3.4 ... |
| 01:02.02 | asg | peterS: remember though, Debian does have the secret passage from the conservatory to the kitchen for such things. |
| 01:02.04 | man_on_server | that's what i'm having trouble with atm. i think my apt-proxy went stale :( |
| 01:02.12 | peterS | asg: oh, true |
| 01:02.21 | guestish | k |
| 01:02.25 | benjamindees | well looks like the rsync method in debmirror could use some work |
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| 01:02.35 | man_on_server | kitchen? can i apt-get install food? |
| 01:02.39 | man_on_server | ;) |
| 01:02.41 | asg | !feed man_on_server |
| 01:02.51 | man_on_server | :O |
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| 01:03.25 | guestish | nvm then, lol |
| 01:03.36 | shingouz | all this speak about food. i think i'll apt-get ambush the-refrigerator now |
| 01:03.37 | Lazydog | sisant11 |
| 01:03.45 | adf | hello. i just installed a debian kernel-image, what is the command to "reread" modules? |
| 01:03.59 | stoned | asg, you dig cob? |
| 01:04.08 | asg | stoned: yeah |
| 01:04.10 | benjamindees | adf, ? |
| 01:04.11 | stoned | nice |
| 01:04.16 | stoned | i love the guitarwork |
| 01:04.22 | man_on_server | adf: if you just installed a new kernel, you need to reboot to use it |
| 01:04.26 | asg | stoned: they even did a rather interesting remake of Aces High on a Maiden Tribute album sometime back. |
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| 01:04.47 | Biovore | adf: I beleave your looking for depmod -a |
| 01:04.48 | Jebediah | CoB = l4m3 |
| 01:04.55 | man_on_server | uname -rms: Linux 2.6.9-1-686 i686 |
| 01:04.58 | man_on_server | :) |
| 01:04.58 | stoned | asg, i really love the supultura cover, mass hypnosis, I think they did a better job than sep. |
| 01:05.02 | nz | i jused used the rc2 installer, its dam good |
| 01:05.04 | asg | stoned: they are very clean though I don't know if that's pro-tools or just talent |
| 01:05.08 | adf | benjamindees: yes, i rebooted, but where the lines in /etc/modules for parport and parport_pc where not recognized in the new kernel....depmod -a? okay, i'll try it. |
| 01:05.17 | asg | stoned: haven't heard that but I'll look out for it. |
| 01:05.21 | man_on_server | Biovore: i would have thought that would be handled by either the package or the reboot ... |
| 01:05.24 | stoned | asg, they have two leads playing at the same time, thats why it sounds fast |
| 01:05.26 | asg | stoned: oh, and the remake of Hellion is classic |
| 01:05.38 | asg | stoned: fast is easy, fast and clean is tough. |
| 01:05.40 | stoned | asg, I have it, if you want me to send it to you through dcc |
| 01:06.10 | man_on_server | adf: see this is the thing ... "reread modules" could be a number of things, however "load the modules from /etc/modules" is something entirely different to depmod |
| 01:06.18 | stoned | asg, you should check out psycroptic, they are amazing, really, thats all I can say, in my entire life I have not heard such clarity and speed and melody and TECHNICALITY! |
| 01:06.23 | asg | stoned: no worries, I'll find it. |
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| 01:06.50 | adf | man_on_server: what command should i use to get the new kernel to load modules in /etc/modules? |
| 01:06.56 | Jebediah | Psycroptic are pretty cool |
| 01:06.58 | stoned | asg, read some reviews on psycroptic, take 10 minutes, and if you want, find this song called The Colour of Sleep |
| 01:06.59 | man_on_server | ok, now i'm pissed off |
| 01:07.11 | man_on_server | Failed to fetch http://APTPROXY:9999/debian/pool/main/g/gcc-3.4/libgcc1_3.4.3-2_i386.deb 404 Not Found |
| 01:07.12 | stoned | asg, it is freely available on the internet |
| 01:07.19 | asg | stoned: cool, I'll check it out. |
| 01:07.28 | stoned | asg, and if you dig metal of any kind, you will trip balls on that song, amazing |
| 01:07.37 | man_on_server | adf: i don't know if /etc/modules is even used any more. it sounds like it's not |
| 01:07.41 | Biovore | adf: whats uname -a return.. |
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| 01:07.53 | Jebediah | my current fave is Naglfar - The Brimstone Gate :> |
| 01:07.53 | Biovore | and is it loading any kernel modules? |
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| 01:08.09 | adf | Biovore, i'm using the 2.6.8-1 kernel now |
| 01:08.17 | Biovore | woody? |
| 01:08.30 | man_on_server | hmmph |
| 01:08.43 | stoned | asg, the vocalist sings, and does 10 different types of growls and vocals styles, switching from deep guttural to high pitched shieking to mid range grindcore and then some. His delievery is awesome, he changed like every few lines |
| 01:08.55 | benjamindees | adf, 2.6 uses modprobe.conf iirc |
| 01:08.55 | nite_fly | does the new debian have the 2.2 style install menus and stuff still ? |
| 01:08.55 | Biovore | if your running woody you need to uodate the init-modules-tools package |
| 01:09.08 | Biovore | module format in 2.6 is diferent then 2.4 |
| 01:09.14 | adf | benjamindees, aha! thanks. |
| 01:09.21 | stoned | asg, the guitar work is extremely complex yet so sweet sounding, heavy and brutal, and the drums are demonically speedy, yet very technical, and groovy |
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| 01:09.34 | tell | stoned, everything is shit, except for true and honest bands like nirvana |
| 01:09.42 | Vyrus001 | um... i keep getting errors like this "configure.ac:12: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAK" when i use automake ? debian 2.4 sarge |
| 01:10.01 | stoned | asg, I swear by psycrotic, I have been playing guitar for 9 years, and in the past year, just listening to psycroptic has improved my guitar playing by at least two fold |
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| 01:10.22 | man_on_server | adf: what version of debian? |
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| 01:10.27 | stoned | asg, i couldn't even immagine such virtuoso work existed on the guitar, especially in metal |
| 01:10.30 | _BlaBla_ | hi, can someone help me with iptables? i have 3 computers. one router, one server and one client. I want to access from client to server port 80 using NAT. I am using NAT because i want to hide private network between server and router from client. To hide it i set DROP on all packets in FORWARD chain that destination address is private address. But if i set this rule then when NAT applies before FORWARD chain it rejects access to server port 80. |
| 01:10.32 | asg | stoned: nice, haven't played much this year (did some classical stuff last year but that was for a special occasion.) |
| 01:10.34 | man_on_server | Vyrus001: no such thing as debian 2.4. i think you mean kernel 2.4 |
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| 01:10.50 | Vyrus001 | man_on_server, yes :P |
| 01:10.51 | Vyrus001 | sorry |
| 01:11.06 | man_on_server | Vyrus001: is ok. at least you're not asking about "linux 9" |
| 01:11.12 | Vyrus001 | lol |
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| 01:11.29 | stoned | asg, also give a shot to Pyrexia, Decapitated, Necrophagist, Cryptopsy, Vader and Psychotogen |
| 01:11.31 | poh | does anyone sell debian laptops? |
| 01:11.40 | Bangers | Hi, im just wondering, is there a time limit for initd start/stop scripts to return? Or any restrictions applied to them when they are runing by the init controller (and not called from bash) |
| 01:11.49 | stoned | asg, these are also very clear, sharp, and virtuoso technical metal bands |
| 01:11.55 | tell | poh : i don't believe debian produces laptops |
| 01:11.57 | man_on_server | poh: yes. i think there are some on linuxcertified.org |
| 01:12.03 | asg | stoned: will keep an eye out, thanks. |
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| 01:12.05 | stoned | np |
| 01:12.07 | poh | thanks |
| 01:12.07 | man_on_server | tell: that's not what he asked ;) |
| 01:12.43 | debian | _BlaBla_: get sorewall if you aren't going to get an indepth study on iptables yourself |
| 01:12.56 | stoned | man_on_server, you mean redhat9 |
| 01:12.57 | man_on_server | hehe @ sorewall |
| 01:13.07 | debian | _BlaBla_: lol |
| 01:13.11 | man_on_server | stoned: it was labeled "linux 9" |
| 01:13.11 | debian | _BlaBla_: shorewall sorry |
| 01:13.15 | Azar | maybe he ment 2.9 |
| 01:13.19 | stoned | man_on_server, i have a cd labled unix 6.0 but its actually sco linux |
| 01:13.19 | debian | man_on_server: I think I get a better name for it |
| 01:13.26 | man_on_server | stoned: and also had suse 9 with it i think |
| 01:13.28 | guestish | lol... |
| 01:13.29 | _BlaBla_ | debian: i need to use iptables. |
| 01:13.41 | stoned | man_on_server, I know, we get these cds all the time in pakistan/india |
| 01:13.48 | man_on_server | no, it was mandrake 9, that's what it was |
| 01:13.49 | debian | _BlaBla_: I don't think you can use something else for shorewall |
| 01:13.50 | stoned | man_on_server, each cd has like 10 different distros on it |
| 01:13.55 | stoned | and then some |
| 01:14.04 | stew | _BlaBla_: ask in #iptables |
| 01:14.04 | Ronin | beats having to dl them though i bet |
| 01:14.10 | Azar | novell kinda blew up sco's claims |
| 01:14.12 | stoned | man_on_server, they are malaysian/chinese produced and are labled as power pack, linux pack, and the like |
| 01:14.13 | man_on_server | stoned: heh, well this one was only two. mandrake 9 and "linux 9" |
| 01:14.17 | debian | _BlaBla_: if want to handcraft an iptables rules like the rest of us. rtfm is unavoidable |
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| 01:14.41 | man_on_server | my favourite line: apt-get install gentoo |
| 01:14.44 | stoned | lol |
| 01:14.51 | karsten | Where the fsck does GNOME 2.shit set its MIME type associations? |
| 01:14.52 | stoned | i don't like that fm |
| 01:14.52 | man_on_server | even though that ends up with a pos piece of software getting installed ;) |
| 01:14.59 | stoned | i like nautilus :/ |
| 01:15.15 | man_on_server | stoned: i use konqueror or mc, depending on what i need |
| 01:15.29 | grog | i like ls |
| 01:15.30 | stoned | konnq bloated |
| 01:15.33 | man_on_server | stoned: i'm going to look into xfce4's fm. i've heard good things about it |
| 01:15.40 | cafuego | iptables comes with a very nice set of docs, in the usual location. |
| 01:15.47 | stoned | man_on_server, yes it is nice |
| 01:15.49 | man_on_server | stoned: yeah i know, but it's nice for some things |
| 01:16.12 | man_on_server | e17 not in apt yet? |
| 01:16.20 | stoned | !find e17 |
| 01:16.25 | cafuego | e17 exist yet? |
| 01:16.27 | dpkg | lg-issue17: (Issue 17 of the Linux Gazette.), section doc, is optional. Version: 6-1 (sid), Packaged size: 918 kB, Installed size: 935 kB |
| 01:16.28 | nvz | in apt? |
| 01:16.32 | stoned | nm |
| 01:16.40 | karsten | cafuego: It does. |
| 01:16.41 | stoned | not in apt |
| 01:16.45 | nvz | apt is controlled be the apt/sources.list |
| 01:16.48 | stoned | its a package |
| 01:16.51 | cafuego | karsten: in this universe? :-) |
| 01:16.51 | man_on_server | cafuego: well, it sorta does ;) |
| 01:17.01 | stoned | packages don't exist in apt- apt only installs them |
| 01:17.14 | man_on_server | stoned: apt repositorys |
| 01:17.14 | stoned | or manages them rather |
| 01:17.17 | stoned | thus the name |
| 01:17.18 | man_on_server | *ies |
| 01:17.20 | karsten | cafuego: As I noted several days ago (privlist): e17 is released, the BSDI-UC Regents agreement has been published, and wmTempInHell reads 31F. |
| 01:17.20 | grog | i thought dpkg did all that |
| 01:17.33 | stoned | man_on_server, lookup the word repository |
| 01:17.35 | stoned | :) |
| 01:17.37 | man_on_server | stoned: well, saying anything else gets it complicated |
| 01:17.49 | stoned | ahh well whatever |
| 01:17.55 | stoned | as long as you understand how it works n shit |
| 01:17.59 | stoned | thats all that matters |
| 01:18.02 | man_on_server | grog: dpkg installs the packages, apt manages them ;) |
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| 01:18.16 | cafuego | karsten: Sheesh. Does that mean I completely missed the sarge release too? |
| 01:18.23 | grog | cause most of us cant spell repository, thank goodness i could paste the word |
| 01:18.33 | karsten | cafuego: You *DIDN'T* get the memo? |
| 01:18.39 | man_on_server | tip for anyone using apt-proxy: if you're using multiple backends, use an official mirror as your first one |
| 01:18.49 | stoned | man_on_server, why is that? |
| 01:18.50 | cafuego | or spell "can't", or capitalise "I". |
| 01:18.59 | grog | right |
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| 01:19.11 | cafuego | karsten: /dev/memo is a symlink to /dev/bitshredder |
| 01:19.13 | man_on_server | stoned: the Packages list on the one that WAS the first on my list had stale entries for gcc |
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| 01:19.33 | nvz | tip for anyone using apt-proxy: *APT-CACHER* |
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| 01:19.36 | karsten | cafuego: Heh. |
| 01:19.36 | man_on_server | stoned: i kept on getting 404's cos it wanted to get 3.4.3-2, and not 3.4.3-4 |
| 01:19.43 | stoned | cafuego, lazy people try and use as less keystrokes as possible, some take too far, some use in moderation |
| 01:19.44 | derek | can someone help me install a new kernel, i've tried 5 or 6 times for about 4 hours and can't get it to work right |
| 01:19.50 | RememberPOL | Yay, Debian up and running. :) (i'm running slack10 and my parents computer on Debian woody->sarge(3.1)) |
| 01:19.52 | stoned | take it* |
| 01:19.57 | man_on_server | nvz: i don't particularly want to install apache if i don't need to |
| 01:20.09 | RememberPOL | now to run GNU/Hurd on my old computer... ^_^ |
| 01:20.10 | derek | i have 2.4 right now but just want 2.6 or whatever is recommended |
| 01:20.25 | cafuego | derek: 2.4 is fine. |
| 01:20.29 | man_on_server | Linux 2.6.9-1-686 i686 |
| 01:20.30 | man_on_server | :D |
| 01:20.31 | nvz | man_on_server: I'd rather have apache than some 2nd rate mini-serv |
| 01:20.32 | stoned | man_on_server, that sounds like an un-updated package list |
| 01:20.38 | grog | there was a slashdot on this yesterday i think about most white collar workers not being able to write an intelegible email. guess i am one. its created a whole new industry focused on teaching folks to be ok writers |
| 01:20.45 | cafuego | derek: If it works fine, don't try to break it. |
| 01:20.49 | man_on_server | nvz: i can get it to work |