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| 00:00.10 | simonrvn | inetd even |
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| 00:00.18 | jlw | simonrvn: I restarted the machine :) |
| 00:00.23 | aFlag | how do i configure my ssh so it doesn't allow remote root connections? |
| 00:00.26 | r00ted | dondelcaro: Yes, but I was trying --unpack, and *not* -i, in the hopes of *not* running any (possibly compromised) scripts... |
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| 00:00.36 | dgc | jlw: is it running as a daemon? (ps ax |grep exim) |
| 00:00.38 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: read what I said again. |
| 00:00.40 | simonrvn | jlw: then it's getting started from somewhere else |
| 00:00.48 | kensai | the last update of XFree86 today killed Unreal Tournament 2004 now when I start it it says : Xlib: extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0" |
| 00:01.06 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: in order to unpack, you MUST run the prerm and postrm scripts, then the preinst script of a package. |
| 00:01.31 | r00ted | dondelcaro: H'm... I wonder how debottstrap does it. |
| 00:01.38 | kensai | This is the problem I get from UT2004 Either GL_EXT_bgra or glDrawRangeElements not supported- bailing out. |
| 00:01.39 | r00ted | debootstrap, excuse me. |
| 00:01.50 | jlw | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.50 | jlw | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:02.15 | r00ted | I don't mind running the new scripts, IF it will run them with the clean /bin/sh and clean shared libraries on the "host" machine I'm reinstalling from. |
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| 00:02.21 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: debootstrap knows enough to unpack the packages using -x that are required to get dpkg running, then calls them again. |
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| 00:02.35 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: it's going to use the compromised /bin/sh |
| 00:02.49 | r00ted | But it seems to chroot into the broken partition and try to use *that* /bin/sh, which I *will not* let it do until the shell, all shared libraries, and all relevant config files have been replaced. |
| 00:02.54 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: and anyway, you're still going to have a compromised machine, unless you reformat the drive and start from scratch. |
| 00:03.09 | aFlag | :( |
| 00:03.15 | dgc | jlw: go into /etc/rc*.d/ and remove the links to exim's startup script |
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| 00:03.41 | ChrysalisM | rooted: you ought to save the list of packages, reinstall from scratch and then copy your etc configs and data you need |
| 00:03.45 | r00ted | Really? If I replace every executable, library, script, and config file (and kernel and boot sector, already done), just how is that going to be possible? |
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| 00:04.24 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: because you apparently don't know enough to understand all of the places where commands can be stored for later execution. |
| 00:04.25 | jlw | dgc: : I have like 6 rc*.d |
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| 00:04.45 | simonrvn | jlw: man update-rc.d |
| 00:04.47 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: even I don't restore compromised machines without reformatting them. |
| 00:04.52 | dgc | jlw: you probably only need to look at /etc/rc2.d, as that's your default runlevel |
| 00:04.58 | abrotman | jlw: default run level is 2 |
| 00:05.09 | ChrysalisM | r00ted: i dont see how you can trust that you could gurantee a clean up otherwise |
| 00:05.31 | r00ted | Well, /etc/inittab, /etc/inetd.conf, /etc/crontab (and /etc/cron.daily, etc.), /etc/init.d/, /etc/logrotate, and the like... |
| 00:05.39 | jlw | S20exim should i remove thay file? |
| 00:05.56 | r00ted | AFK for a bit, running dpkg-deb -x... |
| 00:05.58 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: you've only just gotten started on the things that can be run |
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| 00:06.56 | dgc | dondelelcaro: well, if he removes all filesystem links and the compromized kernel, then the only other etry point is the mbr, which can be overwritten easily with lilo |
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| 00:07.26 | r00ted | don: Yes, I know. I have to examine all of them. fortunately, cruft and debsums help a great deal. If I can be sure I've got emough installed clean to boot init=/bin/sh, pass debsums, and examine everything cruft says isn't part of an installed package, I should be in pretty good shape. |
| 00:07.41 | abrotman | !nick completion |
| 00:07.41 | dpkg | Hitting tab on a partially typed word in your IRC-client, when referencing a nickname, will increase typing productivity by miles. |
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| 00:07.46 | r00ted | Obviously, I have to run debsums in the mode that checks config files, too, and manually check everything that changed. |
| 00:08.04 | stew | "productivity" and "irc" in the same sentence? |
| 00:08.04 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: you're forgetting user config files, stuff in /var/lib, any user binaries, etc. There are a whole host of things that could easily be compromised. |
| 00:08.18 | r00ted | dpkg: For me, it drops me into /msg. |
| 00:08.19 | dpkg | r00ted: are you smoking crack? |
| 00:08.25 | simonrvn | it,s going to take days and weeks |
| 00:08.32 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: but then again, it's your box. I'm just telling you what I recommend. You're free to shoot yourself, if you wish. |
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| 00:09.09 | nvz | simonrvn: you talking to anyone in particular? |
| 00:09.09 | r00ted | dondelcaro: That's part of "everything that cruft says isn't part of an installed package", and I have to do that *anyway* unless I'm willing to blow *everyone's* home directory away, which I'm not. |
| 00:09.09 | zu22 | r00ted: just wipe the disk, you will save yourself all those headaches :) |
| 00:09.21 | zu22 | r00ted: next time make good backups and improve your firewall/IDS ;) |
| 00:09.26 | r00ted | this is why I call it "recovering" and not "melting down for scrap". |
| 00:09.32 | simonrvn | nvz: i'm following the convo |
| 00:09.33 | tony | how the hell do I get a USB compact flash reader mounted? |
| 00:09.42 | napster | do u have to edit X to start kde right after the installation ? |
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| 00:09.53 | nvz | simonrvn: maybe I'm not I guess :/ |
| 00:09.58 | r00ted | My firewall is fine. The machine is a DMZ machine that is known vulnerable and is quite incapable of letting anyone in further. |
| 00:10.00 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: uh, that's why you backup that data, and stick it somewhere that's noexec. Users have to copy over the files themselves, after checking them |
| 00:10.12 | bytecolor | how does dephelper determine the channel limit? |
| 00:10.17 | dondelelcaro | bytecolor: magic |
| 00:10.27 | r00ted | The problem is, I'm not sure how old the intrustion is, so even though I have 2 months of daily backups, I don't know which one is clean... |
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| 00:10.57 | zu22 | r00ted: how did they get into your machine? |
| 00:11.07 | r00ted | dondelcaro: Would *you* trust them to do it right? I wouldn't... |
| 00:11.07 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: no, I'm not talking about a known good backup. I'm talking about archiving what youv'e got now, sticking it somewhere else, and only moving files back file by file. |
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| 00:11.32 | simonrvn | r00ted: oh great :| |
| 00:11.41 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: depends... if I didn't trust my users to know what they want, then I'd not let them on my system |
| 00:11.42 | r00ted | zu22: Not sure. In fact, I'm not sure if they did. chkrootkit reported 11 invisible processes, so I decided to play it careful and reinstall. |
| 00:11.57 | r00ted | I don't see the signs of any known rootkit, though. |
| 00:12.06 | napster | do u have to edit X to start kde right after the installation ? |
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| 00:12.14 | dondelelcaro | napster: no, you just have to install kdm |
| 00:12.16 | NyteRukh | hello |
| 00:12.33 | r00ted | dondelcaro: The users know what they want. they want a working web server. Thy *had* that. I want more: a working web server that isn't a part-time zombie. |
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| 00:12.47 | napster | dondelelcaro: isn't startx enough ? |
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| 00:13.05 | Biovore | startx maynot start kde though.. |
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| 00:13.14 | NyteRukh | hows it going all? |
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| 00:13.29 | napster | Biovore: why ? |
| 00:13.33 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: no, I mean, what files belong to them, and which files don't. Clearly, if you've got a webserver, none of the users should actually have accounts on the machine. |
| 00:13.59 | dondelelcaro | napster: if you want startx to start kde, then you need to stick exec startkde; in your ~/.xsession |
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| 00:14.18 | napster | ok |
| 00:14.26 | dondelelcaro | r00ted: *shrug* best of luck. |
| 00:14.26 | NyteRukh | i had a problem when i went to do a network install on this computer. |
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| 00:14.43 | bytecolor | what about /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager? |
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| 00:14.59 | dondelelcaro | bytecolor: that's system wide. Don't muck with that unless you absolutely have to |
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| 00:15.03 | dondelelcaro | !system wide |
| 00:15.04 | dpkg | People who want to make things 'system wide' (aliases, environment variable changes, etc.) are control freaks. Leave your poor users alone. |
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| 00:15.29 | NyteRukh | lol |
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| 00:15.39 | bytecolor | dondelelcaro, ahh, I'm the only one using this lappy |
| 00:15.58 | MerlinCorey | [19:14] <alekandr> emcee: haha, im an experience linux user, i always rm -rf * after a few months, clean fresh starts |
| 00:16.03 | dondelelcaro | bytecolor: then update-alternatives --config away |
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| 00:16.05 | MerlinCorey | (sorry for spam) |
| 00:16.09 | MerlinCorey | (it was just too much) |
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| 00:16.15 | rich_ | Is it more of a control freak to harrase your users, or to be like me and just not allow any users at all? |
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| 00:16.28 | dondelelcaro | rich_: surely you're a user on your box? ;-) |
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| 00:16.41 | NyteRukh | why when i went to do a network install it couldnt find the debian site to download an install debian |
| 00:16.44 | sev | i installed screen, and i'm trying to bring up a session but it's giving me this error |
| 00:16.45 | sev | Cannot open your terminal |
| 00:16.53 | sev | Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check. |
| 00:17.00 | cavediver | Damn, i can't get my lvm2 disk to work. How to i tell if i have devicemapper ok, or if it's corrupt |
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| 00:17.06 | dondelelcaro | NyteRukh: either 1) your network is broken; 2) your dns server is broken; |
| 00:17.15 | aFlag | how do i configure my ssh so it doesn't allow remote root connections? |
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| 00:17.18 | dondelelcaro | sev: you probably don't have /dev/pts mounted or you don't have pts support |
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| 00:17.23 | bytecolor | just like /usr/local is of no use to me |
| 00:17.26 | pipeline | aFlag: It's an option in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 00:17.28 | dondelelcaro | aFlag: it comes that way by default |
| 00:17.35 | pipeline | dondelelcaro: debian allows root login by default |
| 00:17.40 | NyteRukh | no i dont have debian installed at the moment...so its not dns server |
| 00:17.46 | sev | dondelelcaro: it's a fresh install. how can i fix it? |
| 00:17.46 | NyteRukh | i was able to do it on my lap top |
| 00:17.51 | Xenguy | pipeline: I don't think so |
| 00:18.04 | sev | i'm not too familiar with debian |
| 00:18.09 | rich_ | dondelelcaro Thats true, but the reason I dont allow others is I dont want to share control at all. Seems to me, haveing users just restricting is less controlling then what I do by not haveing them at all |
| 00:18.34 | Xenguy | pipeline: maybe I'm wrong, but the root login should probably be turned off, unless there's a reason otherwise |
| 00:18.39 | nvz | sev: did you install Debian 3.0 Woody or Debian-Installer 3.1 Sarge? and do you know what kernel version? uname -r, will tell you |
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| 00:18.58 | sev | 2.4.27-1-386 |
| 00:19.04 | sev | sarge netinstall |
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| 00:19.26 | aFlag | dondelelcaro, didn't come that way here |
| 00:19.34 | dondelelcaro | aFlag: well, maybe it's not the default now. |
| 00:19.36 | pipeline | Xenguy: That's my feelings on the subject as well, but I believe debian leaves PermitRootLogin yes by default |
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| 00:20.46 | Xenguy | pipeline: that's not my recollection, but I may be incorrect as I've said :-) |
| 00:21.28 | pipeline | Xenguy: Heh, I'm wondering why I would have changed it from no to yes without writing it down in comments on my own systems |
| 00:21.37 | nvz | sev: got me, I dont know enough to trobleshoot that.. its a first I've ever heard of the issue. though that information is valuable to someone who may be able to help. Might help to mention the whole issue again stating the error, and the fact that its a problem with screen on a fresh sarge netinstall with 2.4.27-386 |
| 00:21.39 | McL | can you view x with putty? |
| 00:21.57 | Xenguy | pipeline: I hear ya |
| 00:22.57 | dondelelcaro | ah, it changed at potato time... that's probably why I thought it was no; |
| 00:23.03 | resiak | derekboy: If you have an X server on the machine you're running Putty, yes. |
| 00:23.07 | dondelelcaro | /usr/share/doc/ssh/README.Debian has details on it |
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| 00:23.18 | sev | i have a fresh install of sarge running 2.4.27 kernel and i just did apt-get install screen. when i try to open up a screen session i created it says Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check. |
| 00:23.27 | derekboy | resiak, you mean on the server machine or the machine your connecting from |
| 00:23.36 | resiak | derekboy: The machine you're connecting from. |
| 00:23.37 | derekboy | like i am going to connect to my debian for windows |
| 00:23.41 | derekboy | from* |
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| 00:23.54 | derekboy | ah, so i couldn't |
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| 00:24.06 | yugiohjcj | hello @ll |
| 00:24.21 | NyteRukh | so was the ftp address wrong ? |
| 00:24.22 | yugiohjcj | I try to make a ISO form my original DVD |
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| 00:24.25 | NyteRukh | and port? |
| 00:24.31 | Blissex | sev: it might be a permission problem, or it might be that the PTS filesystem is not mounted. |
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| 00:24.43 | resiak | derekboy: You could always get an X server for Windows ... |
| 00:24.47 | RememberPOL | Hello what command can I use to configure the networking like it automatically on install? (i have it hooked up to a router using DHCP PPPoE) |
| 00:24.56 | derekboy | resiak, really... where would you get that |
| 00:24.57 | resiak | derekboy: (as I do when I am unfortunate enough to be using it) |
| 00:24.58 | yugiohjcj | I use the command: |
| 00:25.00 | yugiohjcj | dd if=/dev/sr0 of=backup.iso |
| 00:25.00 | yugiohjcj | dd: lecture `/dev/sr0': Erreur d'entrée/sortie |
| 00:25.00 | yugiohjcj | 139408+0 enregistrements lus. |
| 00:25.00 | yugiohjcj | 139408+0 enregistrements écrits. |
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| 00:25.09 | resiak | derekboy: Google it. (Cygwin has xorg) |
| 00:25.25 | Xenguy | derekboy: yeah, cygwin's is free |
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| 00:25.32 | derekboy | x for windows doesn't really turn up realivant matches |
| 00:25.44 | simonrvn | idjit |
| 00:25.46 | Biovore | x on windows kinda sucks any who.. |
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| 00:26.29 | RememberPOL | etherconf i believe is what I need... |
| 00:26.45 | derekboy | will it show my gnome x on the server or just this |
| 00:26.55 | Xenguy | If I wanted to display my home linux desktop on my d0ze box at work, would X or VNC be a better choice? |
| 00:27.03 | thorie | i want to be able to administer my network without becoming a network administrator |
| 00:27.07 | nvz | anyone know of anything easy-to-use for an average-know-nothing user, perhaps a firefox plugin, that I can put on these systems that will ping and traceroute an address so my users here can do some preliminary investigating when they have network issues with a particular site? |
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| 00:27.31 | useruser | thorie: prepare to open your wallet |
| 00:27.34 | topa_ | Xenguy, use vnc instead |
| 00:27.36 | doleyb | Xenguy: probably VNC. For one thing, it's a lot easier to install. |
| 00:27.46 | Xenguy | topa_: faster? |
| 00:28.02 | Xenguy | doleyb: OK, but what about speed? |
| 00:28.06 | rich_ | thorie I want to grow weed without being a farmer |
| 00:28.15 | topa_ | Xenguy, yeah its good |
| 00:28.28 | doleyb | Xenguy: Both x11 and vnc will feel slow. But sometimes, x11 will become mega-slow. |
| 00:28.34 | nvz | I have been explaining to my network users a bit about packet loss and network issues, and I want them to start testing with pings and traceroutes to determine their own network woes, rather than bitching that the network is fucked everytime they visit a site that isnt reachable or has mild packet loss |
| 00:28.50 | Xenguy | topa_ doleyb thanks for the feedback |
| 00:28.50 | Lazydog | anyone know anything about libanet linux? |
| 00:29.02 | doleyb | Xenguy: vnc also has the advantage that your programs stay open. With x11, you must run them again each time you connect. |
| 00:29.04 | gratuit | nvz: good luck with that |
| 00:29.06 | tony | anyone have any recommendations for mounting a USB compact flash reader in 2.6.8? |
| 00:29.07 | nvz | just wondering if there is a firefox plugin or some graphical tool, they can just type an address in and hit a button |
| 00:29.10 | stoned | nvz, i don't know, check mozdev, if not, make one |
| 00:29.21 | Xenguy | doleyb: saving state/sessions - good point |
| 00:29.21 | abrotman | Lazydog: it's not debian? |
| 00:29.39 | Lazydog | debian is it's base |
| 00:29.41 | abrotman | tony: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 00:29.44 | abrotman | !based on debian |
| 00:29.44 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. |
| 00:29.49 | stoned | nvz, you can try Etherape |
| 00:30.05 | derekboy | do i need to install gnome in cygwin |
| 00:30.20 | stoned | derekboy, why |
| 00:30.21 | kbrooks | derekboy, do you have windows? |
| 00:30.25 | derekboy | yes |
| 00:30.26 | nvz | stoned: I'll have a look at that. ;) |
| 00:30.31 | Biovore | then use windows.. |
| 00:30.48 | derekboy | well, when i connect with ssh i want it to show my gnome on there |
| 00:30.48 | resiak | derekboy: No, you don't. |
| 00:30.52 | budluva | what would be the best way to lock a user in their home dir? ie when using scp/ssh to connect to my machine |
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| 00:30.54 | stoned | Biovore, don't give useless answeres |
| 00:30.55 | resiak | derekboy: Then you'll need VNC. |
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| 00:31.02 | Biovore | google xdmcp |
| 00:31.07 | stoned | derekboy, you don't need gnome, you can work with a simple window manager |
| 00:31.19 | abrotman | budluva: chroot? jail? |
| 00:31.20 | `Gumby | any NFS users in here. I have something that is really bothering me. my NFS shares transfer files at |
| 00:31.24 | `Gumby | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.27 | `Gumby | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.30 | `Gumby | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.32 | `Gumby | woah...talk about bad formatting |
| 00:31.40 | nvz | gratuit: I at least have them understanding now that every problem is not nessicarily our problem.. and I explained how an echo request works, to determine network speed and test for packet loss, and how a traceroute, does this for each hop to a destination |
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| 00:32.31 | abrotman | `Gumby: don't paste? |
| 00:32.38 | gratuit | nvz: I should teach my roomates that, I set up the netowrk and every time they get a site that's down they think it is my fault somehow |
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| 00:32.50 | r00ted | `Gumby: No particular idea, but I'd start with something like tcpdump to see what's going on. |
| 00:32.54 | mziel | hi! anyone runing squirrelmail in chrooted apache and using something else then default language in SM? I can't my local lang when chrooted. |
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| 00:33.26 | derekboy | do you need to install VNC on the server computer |
| 00:33.37 | abrotman | mziel: #squirrelmail ? |
| 00:33.51 | mziel | abrotman: some kind dead... ;-) |
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| 00:33.55 | abrotman | !piav |
| 00:33.55 | dpkg | Patience is a virtue - just wait and someone will answer you. |
| 00:34.09 | nvz | abrotman: problem seems more related to chaging language or locale in a chroot than squirrelmail per se |
| 00:34.19 | abrotman | nvz: if you say so |
| 00:34.21 | nvz | heh |
| 00:34.26 | nvz | abrotman: I think so anyhow |
| 00:34.44 | abrotman | nvz: i think lots of things .. luckily . i had no plans on going to heaven anyways |
| 00:34.56 | nvz | heh |
| 00:35.12 | kbrooks | HEH |
| 00:35.12 | abrotman | !kill the landlord's dogs |
| 00:35.19 | abrotman | yes! |
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| 00:36.06 | pipeline | gratuit: That is why I live alone. |
| 00:36.18 | abrotman | nvz: something like that |
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| 00:37.46 | RememberPOL | Where can I edit the gateway/subnet ips that Debian uses to connect to the network? |
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| 00:38.43 | The_Vulture | RememberPOL: you aren't using DHCP? |
| 00:39.23 | abrotman | !tell RememberPOL about interfaces |
| 00:39.28 | RememberPOL | The_Vulture: I am. |
| 00:39.40 | The_Vulture | RememberPOL: so what do you need to change? |
| 00:39.42 | nevyn | RememberPOL: tyep ip route |
| 00:39.45 | thorie | any developers here? |
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| 00:40.03 | nevyn | RememberPOL: if you're using dhcp and it's not working fix your dhcp server.. |
| 00:40.20 | pipeline | thorie: No. |
| 00:40.24 | thorie | damn! |
| 00:40.24 | RememberPOL | Hm but it says something about 255.255.255.255, but i'm using 255.255.255.0 |
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| 00:40.37 | RememberPOL | [as the subnet mask] |
| 00:40.54 | Biovore | 255.255.255.255 is broadcast IP. |
| 00:40.56 | nevyn | RememberPOL: what does ifconfig show? |
| 00:41.06 | The_Vulture | RememberPOL: are you having an actual problem? |
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| 00:43.42 | BullWeivelz | dpkg hello |
| 00:43.42 | dpkg | salut, bullweivelz |
| 00:43.48 | BullWeivelz | dpkg initrd |
| 00:43.48 | dpkg | i heard initrd is initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230 |
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| 00:44.15 | bytecolor | what causes mozilla to report 'resolving host xxx' in the status bar? It's gotten reeealy annoyin |
| 00:44.31 | RememberPOL | nevyn: inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 |
| 00:44.48 | doub | bytecolor: because it tries to resolve xxx maybe? |
| 00:44.58 | simonrvn | bytecolor: so don't look at it |
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| 00:45.04 | NyteRukh | how would i enable identd in irssi |
| 00:45.07 | Biovore | hmm.. nothing like 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:45.09 | Blissex | bytecolor: if one of your name servers is down or broken. |
| 00:45.17 | pedro | someone with utf8 and sid ? |
| 00:45.18 | BullWeivelz | hrmm.. okay. i know that in my lilo.conf file I need to put something about initrd. anyone got that info handy? thought maybe dpkg would tell me...guess not. |
| 00:45.24 | BullWeivelz | dpkg lilo.conf |
| 00:45.24 | dpkg | rumour has it, lilo.conf is the configuration file for lilo, /etc/lilo.conf, or <greycat> worthless factoid! |
| 00:45.32 | nevyn | RememberPOL: that's the loopback interface. |
| 00:45.41 | BullWeivelz | dpkg initrd.img |
| 00:45.41 | dpkg | BullWeivelz: I give up, what is it? |
| 00:45.43 | RememberPOL | The_Vulture: Yes... The network has been working up til now I didn't change anything it just says "Network is down" when I start but the router's power light is green for that computer... |
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| 00:45.51 | jstevens | laptop issue... when I close the lit it "turns off" the monitor.. when I open the Lid Debian doesnt' turn the monitor back on... any ideas what I need to look at to fix this? |
| 00:46.05 | RememberPOL | nevyn: that's part of what ifconfig showed, but it didn't show any other "inet addr:...." lines |
| 00:46.09 | The_Vulture | RememberPOL: and all other computers connected to the router can access the internet? |
| 00:46.16 | RememberPOL | Yes like this one |
| 00:46.33 | The_Vulture | RememberPOL: perhaps the interface isn't up.. show the "ifconfig" output in #flood |
| 00:46.41 | bytecolor | So how/where do I find alternative name servers? |
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| 00:46.52 | abrotman | bytecolor: ask your ISP |
| 00:47.21 | bytecolor | I might as well be on dial-up... all the time sitting there 'resolving host...' |
| 00:47.31 | kensai | which is the name of the package for printing? CUPS? or is there other name for the printer server? |
| 00:47.35 | jstevens | bytecolor: good luck.. bs.net doesnt' give out dns servers |
| 00:47.50 | simonrvn | @tell kensai about search |
| 00:47.51 | Biovore | setup you own dns caching server.. |
| 00:47.59 | Biovore | speeds things up |
| 00:48.05 | Biovore | for common dns lookups |
| 00:48.27 | Myren | what are the two mono devel apps? there's monodevelop and some sharpeditor or something of the sort |
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| 00:48.37 | jstevens | bytecolor: do a /whois on bellsouth.net... there are 4 listed in their whois lookup |
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| 00:48.46 | derekboy | me |
| 00:48.54 | bytecolor | jstevens, ok |
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| 00:49.03 | simonrvn | jstevens: um, irc /whois is different from a whois lookup |
| 00:49.03 | derekboy | why |
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| 00:49.18 | jstevens | simonrvn: that's correct |
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| 00:49.34 | simonrvn | duh |
| 00:49.36 | bytecolor | I think I have 2 dns entries in my router |
| 00:49.38 | jstevens | I did the whois from a different terminal :-) |
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| 00:50.08 | llama32 | hello |
| 00:50.13 | jstevens | bytecolor: Here... |
| 00:50.15 | jstevens | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.15 | jstevens | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.15 | jstevens | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.15 | jstevens | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.19 | RememberPOL | The_Vulture: you see in #flood ? |
| 00:50.27 | jstevens | HA! just under the flood limit... |
| 00:50.51 | derekboy | RDU! |
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| 00:51.13 | derekboy | raleigh durham? |
| 00:51.30 | jstevens | sounds good to me :-) |
| 00:51.32 | simonrvn | probably |
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| 00:51.51 | jstevens | BS.net is in the S/E USA ... so that sounds good to me |
| 00:52.02 | derekboy | i live there and don't know what the U stands for, most people don't |
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| 00:52.28 | jstevens | University ?!? :-) |
| 00:52.31 | simonrvn | grr, *still* with the hot-babe crap... |
| 00:52.41 | derekboy | no |
| 00:52.46 | Myren | grr, still with the no sarge. ;) |
| 00:53.05 | jstevens | simonrvn: what about a hot babe? |
| 00:53.28 | Pakal | how can I remove the menu's icons on enligthnement? |
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| 00:53.49 | jstevens | Pakal: install... the menu editor |
| 00:53.49 | cat | Pakal: right click |
| 00:53.58 | trc | installed udev, /dev contains no reference to mouse, /dev/input/event0 only, that's it. X can't work, removed udev. Want udev. What should trc do? |
| 00:54.24 | jstevens | Pakal: e16menuedit |
| 00:54.55 | jstevens | Pakal: so yes, apt-get install e16menuedit |
| 00:55.14 | cat | trc: apt-get -f install |
| 00:55.19 | Apologist | trc: load the module of your mouse |
| 00:55.19 | cat | or apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 00:55.43 | derekboy | load the module of the mouse, and usbmouse if its usb |
| 00:55.54 | trc | cat, apologist: i did dselect update, install (same aptitude) |
| 00:56.05 | Myren | i'm 3db away from complete catastrophe |
| 00:56.12 | trc | didn't help |
| 00:56.14 | NyteRukh | mm this is a toughy |
| 00:56.23 | Pakal | well, I dont want remove mozilla or nicotine, I want their icons dont appear on menu |
| 00:56.44 | trc | apologist: how do I load module for my mouse? |
| 00:56.52 | Myren | Pakal: there's some /usr/share/debian-menu or something like that which window managers are supposed to use |
| 00:56.55 | cat | trc: so you get that error ? |
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| 00:56.59 | cat | trc: modconf |
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| 00:57.05 | Pakal | the tool menu is larger than screen, and that is really annoying |
| 00:57.13 | trc | hmm, ok |
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| 00:57.24 | trc | cat: error that X doesn't start |
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| 00:57.32 | trc | letme try modconf |
| 00:57.34 | cat | !tell trc about set up x |
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| 00:58.10 | flok99 | anyone? |
| 00:58.15 | cat | flok99: nope |
| 00:58.20 | flok99 | damn |
| 00:58.25 | cat | wuz up flok99 ? |
| 00:58.31 | NyteRukh | ok when i go to start x on my laptop it goes through it all but in the in it says screens found but none have a usable config...any ideas |
| 00:58.59 | cat | NyteRukh: check the Xf86config |
| 00:59.05 | derekboy | reconfigure |
| 00:59.26 | NyteRukh | i did several times.. |
| 00:59.27 | flok99 | I fell into dependency hell :-( I installed a fresh debian installation, then added sid to apt.conf and then tried upgrading X. but now it complains about lib-mesa. also when I try to remove the whole xserver etc. also tried apt-get -f inst |
| 00:59.37 | cat | NyteRukh: check the config here /etc/X11/XF86Config |
| 00:59.45 | Phated | NyteRukh: If at first you don't succeed. |
| 00:59.55 | Phated | And that's /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 01:00.10 | trc | cat: Discovering hardware: snd-emu10k1 usb-uhci ehci-hcd piix ohci1394 8139too, no signs of mouse here (?) |
| 01:00.19 | LemmyWinks | sheesh how much more up-to-date can sid be from sarge? sarge is pretty up to date |
| 01:00.24 | jlw | Hmm... how do i do in vsftpd to give all the users same home directoty? |
| 01:00.25 | cat | trc: configured your mouse |
| 01:00.25 | Phated | NyteRukh: By the way, how are you reconfiguring? |
| 01:00.29 | simonrvn | flok99: then don't do stupid shit |
| 01:00.29 | cat | !tell trc about set up x |
| 01:00.38 | flok99 | simonrvn: ah, that's helpfull |
| 01:00.48 | cat | read what it tells you trc |
| 01:00.59 | simonrvn | flok99: not doing stupid shit prevents borkedness. |
| 01:01.04 | trc | ok, thanks, let me digest it first |
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| 01:01.12 | NyteRukh | dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:01.19 | Phated | All right. |
| 01:01.19 | simonrvn | flok99: remove the conf then apt-get -f install |
| 01:01.23 | NyteRukh | gonna try a lower resolutioni |
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| 01:01.41 | flok99 | simonrvn: remove what conf? |
| 01:01.46 | simonrvn | apt.conf |
| 01:02.31 | flok99 | ??? ehr, ok, hold on |
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| 01:03.16 | Pakal | Debian sid Enlightenment is DR16 or DR17? |
| 01:03.24 | cat | DR17. |
| 01:03.29 | Pakal | ok, thx |
| 01:03.32 | cat | np |
| 01:03.41 | simonrvn | since when? |
| 01:03.43 | kbrooks | wtf is DR* |
| 01:03.48 | stew | 16.7 i think |
| 01:03.59 | stew | 17 is not even packaged upstream yet |
| 01:04.01 | dondelelcaro | !info enlightenment |
| 01:04.04 | simonrvn | not 0.17, but 0.16.7 |
| 01:04.06 | dpkg | enlightenment: (The Enlightenment Window Manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:0.16.6-3 (sid), Packaged size: 469 kB, Installed size: 1128 kB |
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| 01:04.13 | simonrvn | .6 |
| 01:04.13 | FieldySnuts | 0.17 is FAR from being released |
| 01:04.28 | stew | yeah they've only been working on it for 5 years or so, what do you expect |
| 01:04.30 | FieldySnuts | it's been completely rewritten 3 times now, it just got put back up on public cvs last week |
| 01:04.41 | dondelelcaro | 0.17 has been in a state of vapor for ever... |
| 01:04.44 | FieldySnuts | that f*ck rasterman will probably start over again, just to irritate the world |
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| 01:04.53 | cat | i though it was 0017 |
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| 01:04.58 | FieldySnuts | i ran cvs last year, boy, really, really neat. but very upsetting to see them fuck around like that |
| 01:05.06 | simonrvn | cat: don't think, know |
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| 01:05.15 | teejay_ | I'm having some issues running "make gconfig" |
| 01:05.26 | teejay_ | About a bajillion different warnings and errors are going off. |
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| 01:05.28 | simonrvn | teejay_: run menuconfig ;) |
| 01:05.32 | teejay_ | What version of gcc should I be running? |
| 01:05.42 | cat | !info gcc |
| 01:05.46 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-1 (sid), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 28 kB |
| 01:05.59 | stew | teejay_: woody or sarge? |
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| 01:06.01 | cat | theres is your info teejay_ |
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| 01:06.06 | novem | i want to load up snd-ens1371 module at startup. which file should i add it to? |
| 01:06.09 | teejay_ | "gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-3)" |
| 01:06.20 | The_Vulture | novem: /etc/modules |
| 01:06.21 | teejay_ | Should I/Is there a way to downgrade? |
| 01:06.30 | novem | thanks The_Vulture |
| 01:06.36 | flok99 | simonrvn: did you mean "bring sources.list back to original state"? as that seems to work :-) |
| 01:06.50 | dli_ | can I install i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc ? |
| 01:07.02 | cat | dli_: if you want to |
| 01:07.16 | dli_ | cat I thought it's the same as gcc |
| 01:07.31 | stew | teejay_: how did you install gcc? |
| 01:07.35 | FieldySnuts | @lart teejay |
| 01:07.45 | cat | it is dli_ |
| 01:07.47 | teejay_ | stew : apt-get install gcc |
| 01:08.06 | dli_ | cat: but I get failed to exec i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: No such file or directory |
| 01:08.07 | stew | ohh, nm, dpkg bot has old data |
| 01:08.17 | teejay_ | ravenbird : Troll? (Unfamiliar with the term, other than the fact that it's a bad thing) |
| 01:08.17 | ravenbird | teejay_: You are moron #3 |
| 01:08.24 | cat | in which directory did you put it on? |
| 01:08.25 | bztunk | waffles |
| 01:09.03 | stew | teejay_: you can install an older version with apt-get isntall gcc=versionnum |
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| 01:09.16 | cat | || |
| 01:09.16 | simonrvn | flok99: no i did not. i meant what i said. but good thinking otherwise |
| 01:09.44 | stew | teejay_: is there a reason to downgrade? |
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| 01:10.06 | teejay_ | I cannot run "make xconfig" or "make gconfig". |
| 01:10.08 | bztunk | ravenbird: ? |
| 01:10.08 | ravenbird | bztunk: je le sais pas, pourrait-tu me l'expliquer? |
| 01:10.10 | teejay_ | I'm getting a ton of errors. |
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| 01:10.23 | stew | teejay_: such as... |
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| 01:10.32 | gourdin | hi there |
| 01:10.34 | dli_ | teejay, make menuconfig |
| 01:10.35 | stew | teejay_: does make menuconfig work? |
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| 01:10.41 | teejay_ | scripts/basic/fixdep.c:255: error: storage size of `st' isn't known |
| 01:10.41 | teejay_ | scripts/basic/fixdep.c:259: warning: implicit declaration of function `open' |
| 01:10.41 | teejay_ | scripts/basic/fixdep.c:259: error: `O_RDONLY' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 01:10.41 | teejay_ | scripts/basic/fixdep.c:261: error: `stderr' undeclared (first use in this function) |
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| 01:10.50 | teejay_ | Oops... |
| 01:10.52 | FieldySnuts | idiot |
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| 01:10.55 | bztunk | teejay: :Tard: |
| 01:10.56 | stew | !b-e teejay_ |
| 01:10.57 | dpkg | teejay_: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 01:11.01 | teejay_ | I meant to only paste one line. Doh! |
| 01:11.01 | gourdin | is there a known bug for the last xfree upgrade (debian sid) and kdm ? |
| 01:11.09 | gourdin | I can't log in using kdm anymore |
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| 01:11.21 | stew | gourdin: bts |
| 01:11.24 | teejay_ | What is build-essential? |
| 01:11.27 | bztunk | gourdin: guessing, but you should check the bts |
| 01:11.29 | stew | teejay_: a meta package |
| 01:11.48 | gourdin | stew: bztunk : hmmm, no X... ok, I can use lynks... |
| 01:11.48 | gourdin | =) |
| 01:11.55 | teejay_ | I've never heard of it before. I'll do a bit of research. |
| 01:12.01 | simonrvn | gourdin: check the freaking BTS already. do we look like the BTS? if you're running sid, you should know this already |
| 01:12.02 | teejay_ | Thanks a lot for your help, everyone. |
| 01:12.09 | stew | teejay_: apt-cache show build-essential |
| 01:12.11 | gourdin | simonrvn: NO X |
| 01:12.16 | gourdin | simonrvn: don't be agressive |
| 01:12.22 | simonrvn | gourdin: your point? |
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| 01:12.39 | gourdin | simonrvn: thx for the info |
| 01:12.40 | simonrvn | don't tell me what to do. |
| 01:12.46 | gourdin | tsss |
| 01:12.50 | Phated | Go simonrvn go. |
| 01:12.50 | bztunk | gourdin: do it, use likns |
| 01:13.14 | simonrvn | um, what's wrong with querybts anyway? |
| 01:13.25 | Phated | No idea. |
| 01:13.26 | bztunk | gourdin: or yeah, querybts |
| 01:13.44 | derekboy | Lost family guy christmas epsiode at 9 |
| 01:13.53 | gourdin | hmmm |
| 01:14.11 | derekboy | even though it wasn't really lost |
| 01:14.12 | gourdin | I don't know this tool |
| 01:14.16 | gourdin | I'm gonna check |
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| 01:14.27 | simonrvn | that's why there's a man page for it |
| 01:15.11 | gourdin | hahahah |
| 01:15.14 | gourdin | you are an elite |
| 01:15.25 | simonrvn | no, just have a clue |
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| 01:16.09 | rob|lt | Anyone successfully burn an svcd mpeg to cd using debian lately? I'm using an up to date sarge, and 2.6.9 kernel. |
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| 01:16.28 | gourdin | I was meening, ho, I wasn't aware of the existence of a tool name querybts |
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| 01:16.37 | FieldySnuts | who are you calling a ho?? |
| 01:16.39 | rob|lt | I tried using k3b, but it just hangs, and cdrdao segfaults. I can burn data and an audio CD with k3b though. |
| 01:16.44 | FieldySnuts | better not be me i'll rip your face off |
| 01:16.53 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Relax... |
| 01:16.53 | simonrvn | w00t FieldySnuts |
| 01:17.00 | Phated | simonrvn: You can rip ihs face off instead. |
| 01:17.01 | FieldySnuts | Phated: ;/ |
| 01:17.03 | simonrvn | heh |
| 01:17.10 | FieldySnuts | blah |
| 01:17.16 | Phated | Don't bloody call people hos. |
| 01:17.21 | FieldySnuts | help help i'm bein repressed! |
| 01:17.41 | bztunk | FieldySnuts: Don't worry, affirmative action is here for you |
| 01:17.46 | simonrvn | i think FieldySnuts can take care of herself. i'll provide backup if need be ;) |
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| 01:18.15 | bztunk | !root |
| 01:18.15 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 01:19.08 | simonrvn | @root is also see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX [http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306] |
| 01:19.09 | ravenbird | cannot alter locked factoids, simonrvn |
| 01:19.19 | pipeline | some day I will create a UNIX-like OS in which uid 0 is the guest account |
| 01:19.19 | simonrvn | @unlock root |
| 01:19.22 | nvz | oh well, network needs taken down for troubleshooting :/ going to have to /disco for a bit... tyal |
| 01:19.24 | simonrvn | @root is also see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX [http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306] |
| 01:19.25 | ravenbird | cannot alter locked factoids, simonrvn |
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| 01:19.32 | simonrvn | kiss off |
| 01:19.41 | FieldySnuts | lame |
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| 01:19.46 | napster | what's in the woody logo ? a piece of wood or a glass of beer ? |
| 01:19.57 | pipeline | Beer IIRC |
| 01:20.01 | FieldySnuts | @start a beer war |
| 01:20.13 | simonrvn | meh, ill just go edit the db after |
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| 01:20.23 | llama32 | hello ppl |
| 01:20.34 | bztunk | !ppl |
| 01:20.34 | dpkg | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.] |
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| 01:21.01 | Phated | Who you calling people? Better not be me or I'll rip your face off worse than FieldySnuts would rip your face off if you called her a ho. |
| 01:21.03 | garrett_ | !forget ppl |
| 01:21.03 | dpkg | i forgot ppl, garrett_ |
| 01:21.08 | FieldySnuts | Phated: relax. |
| 01:21.18 | bztunk | garrett_: why? |
| 01:21.28 | Phated | Eh what the hell, man. !ppl has been immortal, don't just fucking delete factoids. |
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| 01:21.39 | garrett_ | bztunk: because that attitude is almost as annoying as saying "ppl" |
| 01:21.46 | simonrvn | !ppl is <reply>I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.] |
| 01:21.46 | dpkg | okay, simonrvn |
| 01:21.57 | napster | why beer ? it sux |
| 01:22.07 | rdancer | this is sick. what is my search-terms-phrases fu worh now with google suggest? 8-| |
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| 01:22.26 | rich_ | Yea, someday I'll learn english, but I think bungee jumping first |
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| 01:22.43 | derekboy | this doesn't relate to debian at all but is there anyway to find out my ip from another computer, possibly with my email address |
| 01:22.44 | llama32 | im using xandros, which seems to be debian based, my problem is that apt-get will only let me install packages from the xandros website... i can set it up using it's GUI packaging tool to get the packages off a custom server, i was just wondering what the server for the normal debian packages is |
| 01:22.45 | gourdin | FieldySnuts: a "ho" is an insult for you ? |
| 01:22.49 | FieldySnuts | stfu |
| 01:22.58 | Phated | What FieldySnuts said. |
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| 01:23.04 | rich_ | or ostrich rideing. But english is like third on my list |
| 01:23.04 | garrett_ | derekboy, ssh in and ifconfig? |
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| 01:23.16 | Phated | llama32: #xandros. |
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| 01:23.19 | FieldySnuts | @lart gourdin |
| 01:23.23 | Toastie | Has anyone here ever saw a CPU (Athlon) getting permanently damaged but still working well, except for some specific instruction? |
| 01:23.25 | llama32 | ok |
| 01:23.26 | pipeline | llama32: That's probably not going to work in any case. Install regular debian. |
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| 01:23.32 | fishhead | toastie |
| 01:23.35 | fishhead | wtf did you do |
| 01:23.36 | arestheimpaler | anyone knows a good installation for horde2 using apache2 ? |
| 01:23.39 | fishhead | forget to put on a heatsink ? |
| 01:23.45 | bztunk | Toastie: how could it be permanently damaged then? |
| 01:23.46 | derekboy | heh? |
| 01:23.59 | fishhead | toastie is jewish too |
| 01:24.02 | fishhead | I should have known |
| 01:24.02 | Toastie | fishhead, not really, no. I don't think it ever crossed 50 degrees |
| 01:24.04 | rdancer | Toastie: how do you measure specific instruction failure?! i'm intrigued |
| 01:24.05 | fishhead | btw israel rocks! |
| 01:24.10 | FieldySnuts | troll? |
| 01:24.12 | fishhead | toastie what kills it ? |
| 01:24.29 | gourdin | FieldySnuts: you could be polite |
| 01:24.33 | rich_ | fishhead Yes I heard about their rocks |
| 01:24.38 | FieldySnuts | hey you're the one who called me a ho. |
| 01:24.39 | Toastie | rdancer, bztunk: I have a piece of code which crashes on my box, even when run via a non-Debian rescue disk, but does not crash on any other system |
| 01:24.43 | simonrvn | gourdin: why don,t you S. t. f. u. already |
| 01:24.44 | gourdin | FieldySnuts: ? |
| 01:24.48 | fishhead | WHAT THE CANUCK IS A STUPID NICK FieldySnuts |
| 01:24.49 | gourdin | FieldySnuts: never |
| 01:24.51 | nksen | what can be the reason that my smtpd is running (sending mail) but not reachable via telnet host 25? |
| 01:24.52 | fishhead | WHAT THE CANUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? |
| 01:24.54 | simonrvn | /ig time |
| 01:25.03 | FieldySnuts | +q |
| 01:25.04 | rdancer | fishhead: easy |
| 01:25.05 | gourdin | simonrvn: do I talk to you ? |
| 01:25.18 | bztunk | nksen: maybe it's a send-only mta |
| 01:25.25 | rdancer | +q time |
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| 01:25.29 | FieldySnuts | no shit |
| 01:25.37 | simonrvn | @lart fishhead 5000² times |
| 01:25.38 | teejay_ | "Unable to find the GTK+ installation"... Damnit... I can't think of what package to install to get this. |
| 01:25.41 | FieldySnuts | eat my phark knuckles |
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| 01:25.55 | bztunk | ² |
| 01:25.57 | rdancer | Toastie: that's not an instruction. that's anything. run it under gdb |
| 01:26.06 | bztunk | ¶§µ |
| 01:26.11 | Toastie | rdancer, done. It's a specific location, time and time again. |
| 01:26.11 | FieldySnuts | hehe i had a rough day/week, don't make me Conan the Destroyer you |
| 01:26.19 | rdancer | Toastie: it will be anything from software to hardware |
| 01:26.19 | Phated | nksen: Maybe you didn't configure it to listen. |
| 01:26.24 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.27 | FieldySnuts | sunday? |
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| 01:26.30 | fishhead | toastie I am going to bite you |
| 01:26.32 | bztunk | teejay_: why don't you use debian packages |
| 01:26.33 | fishhead | if you don't answer me |
| 01:26.36 | resiak | FieldySnuts: Only 22.5 hours off. |
| 01:26.38 | Phated | FieldySnuts: SATURDAY, damn fucking it. |
| 01:26.39 | rdancer | Toastie: gdb |
| 01:26.39 | Toastie | rdancer, I first noticed Mozilla begun crashing, so I singled out the code and got the same result |
| 01:26.41 | teejay_ | bztunk I'm trying. |
| 01:26.41 | simonrvn | fishhead: that didn't even make sense |
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| 01:26.51 | teejay_ | bztunk : I can't think of what to install. |
| 01:26.52 | fishhead | simon yeah it does I been sick |
| 01:26.59 | fishhead | I been projectile vomiting and shitting |
| 01:26.59 | Toastie | rdancer: read up - I've gdb'd. |
| 01:27.04 | simonrvn | i suggest everyone /ignore fishhead |
| 01:27.06 | FieldySnuts | uh, +q fishhead please |
| 01:27.06 | fishhead | for the last yr |
| 01:27.13 | bztunk | teejay_: I think you should read the installation manual or something |
| 01:27.19 | fishhead | hey you are the one who larted me |
| 01:27.20 | Phated | Sheesh. |
| 01:27.22 | Phated | !ops |
| 01:27.22 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your #debian emergency. |
| 01:27.24 | fishhead | if you can't take the heat then get out of the fire |
| 01:27.25 | FieldySnuts | jesus |
| 01:27.30 | FieldySnuts | silence child |
| 01:27.34 | teejay_ | bztunk : I need QT and NCURSES and GTK+... Huh? Installation manual? |
| 01:27.35 | fishhead | child? |
| 01:27.39 | FieldySnuts | yeah you |
| 01:27.39 | mentor | hmm? |
| 01:27.40 | fishhead | I turn 31 in march so bite my canuck |
| 01:27.46 | FieldySnuts | racist |
| 01:27.49 | *** mode/#debian [+o ElectricElf] by ChanServ |
| 01:27.49 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@c-24-3-15-166.client.comcast.net] by ElectricElf |
| 01:27.50 | *** mode/#debian [-o ElectricElf] by ChanServ |
| 01:27.51 | bztunk | simonrvn isn't an op? |
| 01:28.00 | Phated | Thank you, ElectricElf. |
| 01:28.01 | rich_ | I'll be 40 in the morning :) |
| 01:28.08 | rdancer | ElectricElf: thx |
| 01:28.14 | Toastie | Hm, is it the troll season already? |
| 01:28.17 | simonrvn | bztunk: used to be. i'm too hot-headed... |
| 01:28.20 | FieldySnuts | trolls are okay, but racists aren't |
| 01:28.36 | Toastie | rdancer, in short - all evidence leads to a-bit-faulty-CPU |
| 01:28.41 | simonrvn | i'd like to sick my antifa friends on them |
| 01:28.47 | Phated | simonrvn: Dishing out the +q's like there ain't no tomorrow, eh? |
| 01:28.48 | simonrvn | s/sick/sic/ |
| 01:28.52 | teejay_ | FieldySnuts : What exactly IS a troll? |
| 01:28.56 | bztunk | simonrvn: hehe ok |
| 01:28.57 | Phated | !troll |
| 01:28.57 | dpkg | methinks troll is a race on some muds;a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/troll.html |
| 01:28.59 | FieldySnuts | teejay_: you |
| 01:29.05 | simonrvn | Phated: not that bad. |
| 01:29.06 | LemmyWinks | !bukkake |
| 01:29.09 | FieldySnuts | .. |
| 01:29.09 | Phated | simonrvn: Hehe. |
| 01:29.13 | FieldySnuts | definately sunday early |
| 01:29.14 | LemmyWinks | I can't believe you guys took that out |
| 01:29.16 | LemmyWinks | that sucks |
| 01:29.26 | Phated | You're a sick fuck. |
| 01:29.26 | FieldySnuts | ask ravenbird |
| 01:29.44 | teejay_ | FieldySnuts : Win what was am I being a troll? I don't qualify for any of those definations. |
| 01:29.54 | FieldySnuts | hey, leave me alone! |
| 01:29.57 | teejay_ | Wow. Horrible grammar. |
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| 01:30.16 | mentor | As opposed to horrible spelling? |
| 01:30.18 | rdancer | Toastie: well, seems like you've the first freak for your hardware freakshow 8-) |
| 01:30.22 | teejay_ | Well, that too. |
| 01:30.29 | simonrvn | mentor: *ding* |
| 01:30.38 | rich_ | I used to know some trolls in palo alto. They live under the bridge that lets el camino real pass over san francisquito creek |
| 01:30.53 | Toastie | rdancer, bah, would be a bitch to find someone selling an Athlon 1400... |
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| 01:31.07 | bztunk | rich_: did you use fire to kill them? |
| 01:31.10 | mentor | simonrvn: *don-g*? |
| 01:31.22 | simonrvn | mentor: yes |
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| 01:31.29 | dgc | rich_ really? I can't even get a wireless signal there |
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| 01:31.36 | rdancer | Toastie: *if* it's a hardware failure, it will most likely be the motherboard or RAM or anything *but* the cpu |
| 01:31.40 | BullWeivelz | hrmm....anyone know of a package I can use on a windowz box, ie windows XP, to take control of a x-windows box? (i suppose VNC is one method) |
| 01:31.48 | LemmyWinks | I need to order some pizza |
| 01:31.50 | rich_ | bztunk No, They were friends of mine. I drank wine with them sometimes. bbqed chickens sometimes |
| 01:31.52 | mankeletor | someone needs to spy in a server? |
| 01:32.00 | simonrvn | what's an x-windows box? |
| 01:32.04 | rdancer | BullWeivelz: vnc |
| 01:32.11 | Toastie | rdancer, yes, but it doesn't look like RAM corruption |
| 01:32.14 | simonrvn | mankeletor: what? |
| 01:32.22 | topa_ | BullWeivelz, ssh -X ? |
| 01:32.26 | BullWeivelz | simonrvn: Debian box running KDE. I want to grab the x-windows and run it. |
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| 01:32.39 | mentor | BullWeivelz: I think there are some X Servers for Windows, and you can probably also do something with cygwin.... |
| 01:32.39 | BullWeivelz | topa ssh -X ?? whats that?? never heard of it. |
| 01:32.40 | rdancer | !xwindows |
| 01:32.40 | dpkg | well, xwindows is NOT the name of it. It's simply called X, X11, The X Window System, X11R6, etc. Do a "man X" for more. < Zxcvb> X + KDE/Gnome + Codeweavers Wine == X-windows, or ask me about x windows trap |
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| 01:32.43 | Toastie | rdancer, I *did* toy with the CPU today. I've removed it and re-spread the termal paste. lm-sensors show its way below critical temperature. |
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| 01:33.03 | mankeletor | simonrvn: I have an IP and a root passwrd |
| 01:33.04 | FieldySnuts | ElectricElf: heh get this threat: <fishhead> I hope you enjoy a kline <fishhead> lilo is a friend of mine there's some humor for you |
| 01:33.07 | bztunk | !x windows trap |
| 01:33.07 | dpkg | yes, there are important flaws in the xfree86-style license. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/x.html to know why. |
| 01:33.17 | BullWeivelz | dpkg: XXX ? |
| 01:33.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xxx is http://www.kde.org |
| 01:33.18 | rich_ | bztunk The police would clean them out every year, and every year they would get some ply wood somewhere and build new shelters under that bridge |
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| 01:33.37 | bztunk | xxx is kde.org? wtf? |
| 01:33.43 | BullWeivelz | hahaha i always thought XXX was a porn movie, or Vin Deisel LOL |
| 01:34.00 | rdancer | BullWeivelz, bztunk /msg dpkg <factoid>, don't clutter the channel |
| 01:34.02 | mentor | !factinfo xxx |
| 01:34.02 | dpkg | xxx -- created by WildFox <WildFox@p3E9C2B19.dip.t-dialin.net> at Fri Aug 11 18:25:27 2000 (1582 days); it has been requested 18 times, last by BullWeivelz, 45s ago. |
| 01:34.05 | bztunk | rich_: wow |
| 01:34.28 | BullWeivelz | thats funny! |
| 01:34.44 | rdancer | seems like some hidden message? 8-) |
| 01:34.49 | BullWeivelz | so... i suppose your getting screwed by using KDE? errr...someone is huh |
| 01:34.50 | pipeline | So, how can I get a GTK-2 vlc on debian? |
| 01:35.10 | RichiH | !say * fluffles Phated |
| 01:35.11 | dpkg | * fluffles Phated |
| 01:35.20 | Phated | RichiH: Stop. It. |
| 01:35.21 | FieldySnuts | leave her alone, already |
| 01:35.28 | FieldySnuts | like a bunch of 12 year olds |
| 01:35.40 | teejay_ | Is there some sort of package to get that contains everything I need to compile a kernel? I figured it would be listed as a dependacy of kernel-source |
| 01:35.41 | derekboy | XXX is a horrible movie |
| 01:35.44 | bztunk | FieldySnuts: dpkg is asexual |
| 01:35.51 | FieldySnuts | i'm talking about someone else. |
| 01:35.55 | RichiH | FieldySnuts: you need to keep young at heart :) |
| 01:36.04 | FieldySnuts | s/keep/troll/ |
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| 01:36.25 | simonrvn | !b-e |
| 01:36.25 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 01:36.27 | mentor | teejay: build-essential is assumed. PAcakges don't have to list dependencies on anything in it. |
| 01:36.29 | simonrvn | !kp |
| 01:36.30 | dpkg | from memory, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 01:36.33 | LemmyWinks | teejay - libncurses-dev, build-essential and kernel-package |
| 01:36.34 | BullWeivelz | man i hate the new way googles groups work...yuk! |
| 01:36.44 | Phated | libncurses5-dev. |
| 01:36.51 | teejay_ | I've gotten build-essential, and kernel-package, and still can't make gconfig, xconfig, or menuconfig. |
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| 01:36.57 | LemmyWinks | I have never compiled a kernel the "debian way" |
| 01:37.01 | LemmyWinks | just the linux way |
| 01:37.13 | mentor | LemmyWinks: Well done. |
| 01:37.20 | LemmyWinks | make && make modules_install && make install then check my menu.lst |
| 01:37.28 | mentor | teejay: Probably, because those need extra libraries. |
| 01:37.32 | bztunk | LemmyWinks: LemmyWinks from south park? |
| 01:37.37 | mankeletor | someone wants to enter in a cyber server??? ;) |
| 01:37.41 | mentor | teejay: (You don't actuall /need/ them) |
| 01:37.41 | FieldySnuts | asl? |
| 01:37.44 | LemmyWinks | bztunk, I am the gerbil king lol |
| 01:37.48 | simonrvn | mankeletor: STFU already |
| 01:37.49 | teejay_ | How can I find out which librarys are required? |
| 01:37.51 | FieldySnuts | um. |
| 01:37.54 | bztunk | LemmyWinks: hahaha |
| 01:38.04 | FieldySnuts | LemmyWinks: Richard Gere? |
| 01:38.06 | LemmyWinks | bztunk, did you see the one with paris hilton? |
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| 01:38.10 | bztunk | 15/f/socal |
| 01:38.14 | bztunk | LemmyWinks: no |
| 01:38.19 | teejay_ | mentor : They list things that I need, yet I have those things installed. (GTK+-2.0 for example) |
| 01:38.20 | LemmyWinks | 31/m/mountains of socal |
| 01:38.29 | mankeletor | whay u say? ;) |
| 01:38.34 | FieldySnuts | wow |
| 01:38.37 | FieldySnuts | what the hell is going on here |
| 01:38.43 | LemmyWinks | bztunk, Its a rather funny episode |
| 01:38.49 | simonrvn | truned into #geek-social |
| 01:38.52 | simonrvn | turned* |
| 01:38.58 | mentor | teejay: They're probably listed in the documentation in the kernel source. |
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| 01:39.05 | bztunk | mankeletor: someone set us up the bomb? |
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| 01:39.15 | dgc | LemmyWinks: that happens on occasion in all *nix channels |
| 01:39.29 | LemmyWinks | dgc, ? |
| 01:39.33 | dgc | um, s/LemmyWinks/simonrvn/ |
| 01:39.39 | simonrvn | ... |
| 01:39.40 | LemmyWinks | doh |
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| 01:40.08 | FieldySnuts | ElectricElf: :) |
| 01:40.09 | simonrvn | um, wha? |
| 01:40.16 | ElectricElf | *shrug*, we had a bit of a chat |
| 01:40.18 | simonrvn | who dat? |
| 01:40.22 | LemmyWinks | Im just amazed hamas said theres a chance for peace with Israel. I'd be really happy to see an end tothe war... |
| 01:40.24 | fishhead | bbl |
| 01:40.28 | ElectricElf | In my defense, I normally do give warnings. I didn't this time :) |
| 01:40.29 | FieldySnuts | @troll LemmyWinks |
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| 01:40.37 | teejay_ | mentor : Any clue under which file it would be? |
| 01:40.41 | ElectricElf | Try to play nice and all that, everybody |
| 01:40.51 | LemmyWinks | @steamingpileon Fieldysnuts |
| 01:40.54 | simonrvn | ElectricElf: /lastlog fishhead |
| 01:41.01 | mentor | LemmyWinks: Enough now. |
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| 01:41.05 | FieldySnuts | yep. |
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| 01:41.10 | rdancer | LemmyWinks: what possibly does hamas have to do with #debian? |
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