| 00:00.05 | _cds | ah |
| 00:00.09 | wols_ | if it's in debian, pdo knows about it |
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| 00:00.25 | Function | pipeline: ah |
| 00:00.27 | _cds | anyway, i'm root and it says it can't lock the list dir? |
| 00:00.31 | Function | pipeline: I'm not quite sure I want that actually |
| 00:00.37 | Function | pipeline: not for production boxes anyway |
| 00:00.45 | wols_ | xixor: dpkg --force-help |
| 00:00.50 | Function | pipeline: I'd rather have / and /boot on a normal partition |
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| 00:01.27 | xixor | wols_: I did a dpkg --force-depends --configure console-data to no avail |
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| 00:01.32 | Analyser | someone know when sarge will be the current stable? |
| 00:01.40 | xixor | wols_: trying a dist-upgrade now |
| 00:01.52 | knekken | Analyser, when its stable. |
| 00:01.53 | Function | !tell me about sarge |
| 00:02.04 | Function | there |
| 00:02.05 | pipeline | Function: Yeah, I'm keeping /boot on a normal partition for obvious reasons. |
| 00:02.09 | Function | !tell Analyser about sarge |
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| 00:02.17 | Analyser | knekken: very funny |
| 00:02.25 | Kraig | bbl, nap |
| 00:02.25 | pipeline | Function: But I want the RAID redundancy on my root |
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| 00:02.51 | Function | pipeline: makes sense |
| 00:03.19 | Function | pipeline: I still dislike initrd though |
| 00:03.51 | Function | pipeline: it's all about personal preference I guess |
| 00:03.54 | wols_ | I don't anyone who likes initrd :) |
| 00:04.05 | wols_ | *don't know |
| 00:04.13 | guest_ | Function: i hate it too.. all the systems at uni use bloody grub which like initrd img's by default. what's wrong with lilo! |
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| 00:04.23 | Function | guest_: a lot |
| 00:04.35 | Function | guest_: grub pwns lilo in so many ways |
| 00:04.38 | wols_ | Function: why woulg grub do anything like that? |
| 00:04.41 | Function | guest_: initrds are still a bitch though |
| 00:04.53 | Function | wols_: do what? |
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| 00:04.56 | wols_ | it's not grubs faultif your kernels have initrds |
| 00:05.01 | Function | wols_: I know |
| 00:05.06 | Function | wols_: did I say that? |
| 00:05.13 | guest_ | lilo is clean and simple and sensible. grub complicates booy menu configuration as though more options were an advantageous |
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| 00:05.20 | wols_ | I talked to guest. he complained about grub with initrd |
| 00:05.23 | guest_ | s/booy/boot |
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| 00:05.27 | pipeline | Lilo is not at all clean or simple. |
| 00:05.32 | pipeline | Sensible is a matter of opinion. |
| 00:05.34 | Function | wols_: then get your tab completes right |
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| 00:05.59 | Opsis | huh dumping my debian :( |
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| 00:06.03 | wols_ | guest_: my grub file is 3 lines, the other 4 are only needed to boot the other OSes. I doubt't that is anything but simple |
| 00:06.09 | Function | Opsis: dumping? |
| 00:06.24 | britt_ | where is procinfo |
| 00:06.29 | britt_ | what dir |
| 00:06.30 | pipeline | guest_: We'll see how you feel when you fuck up your Lilo config and you're up shit creek without your grub paddle. |
| 00:06.35 | guest_ | why does the sarge install plug grub over lilo? especially requiring an initrd.img.. |
| 00:06.37 | Opsis | setting xorg from ubuntu (and io do not know other words how to say taht) |
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| 00:06.39 | Opsis | *that |
| 00:06.59 | Opsis | guest_, grub is cind of simple |
| 00:07.01 | Function | Opsis: well Ubuntu is still Debian |
| 00:07.03 | Opsis | kind |
| 00:07.03 | Function | Opsis: kinda |
| 00:07.03 | dondelelcaro | guest_: because it happens to be a sane default on i386... but nothing stops you from installing lilo |
| 00:07.07 | wols_ | guest_: all distro kernels require initrd. they all have to since they have to support so much different hardware |
| 00:07.07 | guest_ | pipeline: i've been using lilo for about 4 years. fscked it up once and then never again |
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| 00:07.21 | britt_ | Q: how do i see my processor stats |
| 00:07.22 | wols_ | all installers with lilo I ever saw used initrd as well |
| 00:07.30 | britt_ | what dir is procinfo uner |
| 00:07.32 | confrey | hi everybody |
| 00:07.32 | britt_ | under |
| 00:07.46 | Function | britt_: /proc/cpuinfo |
| 00:07.53 | wols_ | britt_: do you mean cat /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 00:07.55 | Opsis | Fubarovic, i know :) but it is ubuntu has diferent name - i like this debora and ian :) mixture ;) more ;) |
| 00:08.01 | Function | britt_: put "cat" in front of that and :) |
| 00:08.05 | britt_ | yup |
| 00:08.06 | britt_ | thanks |
| 00:08.09 | britt_ | guys! |
| 00:08.10 | britt_ | ;) |
| 00:08.18 | pipeline | guest_: Well, nice how that trial and error works out for you. |
| 00:08.24 | holycow | -- |
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| 00:08.35 | alamar | why isn`t there a xorg package in unstable? |
| 00:08.47 | Function | alamar: ah, it's complicated |
| 00:08.51 | Function | !tell alamar about xorg |
| 00:08.53 | guest_ | ok night all |
| 00:08.58 | Opsis | i'm upgrading system and than i wil see does mu xorg works bettr than ubuntus :) dies |
| 00:08.58 | confrey | how can I use harddisk as ata66? it remains set as udma2 |
| 00:09.02 | wols_ | !7msg dpkg xorg |
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| 00:09.10 | Function | pipeline: hehe I just love that !tell feature |
| 00:09.10 | Function | :p |
| 00:09.12 | rich_ | Thanks everyone, bbl |
| 00:09.14 | Opsis | confrey, absolutely |
| 00:09.19 | usuario | http://channels.debian.net/paste/95 can anyone think of a non-lyrical song that could go well with this? |
| 00:09.28 | alamar | thx |
| 00:09.45 | confrey | Opsis, ?? |
| 00:09.57 | wols_ | confrey: man hdparm |
| 00:10.01 | confrey | what's absolutely? |
| 00:10.03 | britt_ | hey do you all know why my network card doesnt work |
| 00:10.13 | wols_ | tho udma2 should be ata66 IIRC |
| 00:10.21 | Opsis | confrey, about ata66 and udma2 as far as i know same speed |
| 00:10.26 | wols_ | britt_: yes we do. we're psychic |
| 00:10.26 | Opsis | dierent name :D |
| 00:10.28 | britt_ | i just updated kernels |
| 00:10.37 | Opsis | *diferent |
| 00:11.14 | confrey | Opsis, I know so : udam2 is ata33, and udma4 is ata66 |
| 00:11.18 | britt_ | well wols_ since you have a big goddmaned mouth why dont you try using it to tell me why my computer doesnt work |
| 00:11.23 | Opsis | ummm |
| 00:11.47 | confrey | my disk has capabilities up to udma4, but only udma2 is working |
| 00:11.52 | Opsis | confrey, than what is udma without numbers? |
| 00:12.10 | Opsis | confrey, cable has 40 or 80 pins |
| 00:12.13 | britt_ | 33 |
| 00:12.20 | Opsis | :D |
| 00:12.24 | britt_ | udma without numbers is 33 |
| 00:12.33 | wols_ | britt_: I will as soon as you grow a brain big enough to ask questions non psychic people can answer |
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| 00:12.46 | Opsis | and 40 pin cable wors as udma or ata33 |
| 00:12.54 | confrey | I passed idebus=66 at boot, cable is 80 pins, |
| 00:12.56 | Opsis | *works |
| 00:13.07 | Opsis | strange |
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| 00:13.14 | wols_ | confrey: you can try hdparm to set transfer modes manually |
| 00:13.16 | britt_ | wols_ tell me dude what you do |
| 00:13.18 | usuario | comments on freenetproject.org please |
| 00:13.20 | Opsis | never had that kind of error |
| 00:13.31 | wols_ | just be careful to not lose data |
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| 00:14.03 | wols_ | britt_: custom kernel or debian distro kernel? |
| 00:14.07 | Opsis | try to set ata33 or udma not simple and check if it realy is THAT slow |
| 00:14.23 | confrey | wols_, I did it : hdparm -c3 -X 68 -d1 /dev/hdc; hdparm tell me udma4 mode is set, but it'snt true |
| 00:14.26 | britt_ | well its from debian |
| 00:14.31 | britt_ | using apt-get |
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| 00:14.39 | britt_ | and i used my eth card to get it |
| 00:14.44 | britt_ | and now i dont have inet |
| 00:14.53 | britt_ | and my card is non-existant |
| 00:15.05 | wols_ | load the module for your network card and it will work |
| 00:15.13 | nvz | asg: well, I can proudly inform you we are ready for suds ;) |
| 00:15.28 | wols_ | tho, the debian kernel doesn't lose support for older hardware in newer versions, neither does the vanilla kernel |
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| 00:16.13 | wols_ | confrey: how do you know it can do udma4? what does hdparm -i /dev/hdc say? |
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| 00:17.12 | confrey | wols_, UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 |
| 00:17.19 | britt_ | i went to 2.4.18 |
| 00:17.30 | wols_ | and what IDE chipset do you have? you sure it can do udma4 as well? |
| 00:17.50 | wols_ | britt_: and why? that's a very old kernel with know security flaws |
| 00:17.59 | fulvioo-gf | indeed |
| 00:18.01 | britt_ | SMP |
| 00:18.06 | britt_ | newest i saw |
| 00:18.20 | wols_ | ah woody |
| 00:18.31 | britt_ | could go to sarge |
| 00:18.46 | Opsis | testin xorg |
| 00:18.48 | britt_ | via apt-get? |
| 00:18.49 | Opsis | bye |
| 00:18.55 | wols_ | what network card? |
| 00:19.05 | britt_ | not a damn clue |
| 00:19.05 | wols_ | yes, you can dist-upgrade to sarge if you want to |
| 00:19.12 | britt_ | i want to |
| 00:19.24 | wols_ | britt_: "lspci -v" will tell you what kind of card it is |
| 00:19.25 | britt_ | can i force lilo to boot from the old kernel |
| 00:19.41 | paster | "mlewis00" at 216.166.159.4 pasted "Test..." (57 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/97 |
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| 00:19.48 | wols_ | yes, linux.old (or was it linuxold?) |
| 00:19.50 | britt_ | intel 82557 |
| 00:19.55 | britt_ | ethernet pro 100 |
| 00:20.10 | wols_ | well, each and any kernel supports that card |
| 00:20.21 | britt_ | modprobe <what module> |
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| 00:20.25 | WiFiTux | wols_, yes from 2.4.19 and higher |
| 00:20.25 | britt_ | whats it called for this card |
| 00:20.26 | ktttk | hi |
| 00:20.35 | WiFiTux | e100 |
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| 00:20.51 | WiFiTux | britt_, modprobe e100 or e1000 |
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| 00:21.01 | britt_ | cant find either |
| 00:21.05 | britt_ | lemme go to sarge then |
| 00:21.08 | wols_ | WiFiTux: I've seen those intel card drivers in really old kernels. and how did he boot when his old kernel is lower than 2.4.18? |
| 00:21.11 | britt_ | dist-update sarge? |
| 00:21.24 | britt_ | it is 2.4.18 |
| 00:21.28 | ktttk | I compiled & installed smartmontools from source... |
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| 00:21.40 | ktttk | now I would like to prevent anyone to isntall it from .deb |
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| 00:21.49 | WiFiTux | wols_, well that is with the David something Driver,. not the official driver. anyway, should. |
| 00:21.52 | ktttk | how can I do it, since .deb package is not installed? |
| 00:22.09 | ktttk | I mean otherwiese dpkg --set-selections would work maybe |
| 00:22.28 | wols_ | ktttk: by creating your own dummy smartmontools package and installing that. then setting on "hold" |
| 00:22.29 | WiFiTux | britt_, go into the menuconfig and go into the help of it and check there cause I think it will be the etherexpress but dunno the module name for that one... |
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| 00:22.49 | ktttk | wols_: thanks... |
| 00:22.51 | britt_ | well lemme comment out lilo.conf |
| 00:23.00 | britt_ | for the new kernel |
| 00:23.01 | ktttk | btw, how do you create dummy package :) |
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| 00:23.07 | WiFiTux | britt_, modprobe eepro100 |
| 00:23.28 | WiFiTux | how about that one |
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| 00:23.56 | britt_ | well i want to go to sarge |
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| 00:24.00 | britt_ | the card did work |
| 00:24.10 | wols_ | ktttk: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-debpkg.html |
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| 00:24.41 | ktttk | thanks wols_ |
| 00:24.58 | wols_ | ktttk: would be proably easier and saner to create not a dummy package but a custom package of smartmontools |
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| 00:25.19 | britt_ | WiFiTux lemme try the eepro100 |
| 00:25.58 | britt_ | got it |
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| 00:26.10 | britt_ | it spit out a large amount of stuff |
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| 00:26.36 | mlewis00 | wols_: Can't you create your own .deb like you said and then point your sources.list to it? |
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| 00:26.58 | wols_ | mlewis00: yes. you can create custom repositories |
| 00:27.04 | plagerism | Does anyone have sdl working correctly with ALSA?? |
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| 00:27.12 | britt_ | okay do i goto sarge first then upgrade the kernel |
| 00:27.17 | plagerism | not using oss emulation?? |
| 00:27.19 | WiFiTux | britt_, nice. |
| 00:27.19 | britt_ | or do the kernel and upgrade |
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| 00:27.27 | britt_ | good job man |
| 00:27.55 | mlewis00 | wols_: That would prevent the package from being upgraded by apt as long as the one in the repository is newer, right? |
| 00:28.32 | wols_ | mlewis00: yes. or you can set packages on hold, and prevent apt from messing with them forever |
| 00:28.42 | knekken | anyone know any good music apps for linux ? for producing music (like reasaon,cakewalk, cubase etc) |
| 00:29.10 | wols_ | if you have more than one package version for the same package, you can use "apt-cache policy" to check on it |
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| 00:29.21 | mlewis00 | wols_: Hmmm...that's good to know...I haven't had the need to do that yet but it might come in handy in the futeure :_) |
| 00:29.23 | wols_ | to see which package is loaded by default for example |
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| 00:29.42 | jaimos | how would I copy an existing apt-database from one computer to another one? |
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| 00:29.58 | britt_ | shoudl i do kernel then dist-update |
| 00:30.04 | britt_ | or vise versa |
| 00:30.04 | wols_ | knekken: http://www.demudi.org |
| 00:30.13 | jetscreamer | dist-upgrade is the term |
| 00:30.20 | wols_ | britt_: first dist-upgrade, then upgrade to kernel 2.6 |
| 00:30.24 | britt_ | ok |
| 00:30.29 | britt_ | 2.6 for SMP |
| 00:30.58 | britt_ | uhoh command not found |
| 00:31.00 | mlewis00 | wols_: Thanks... |
| 00:31.01 | wols_ | yes, there are SMP versions of it available too. but SMP can always be tricky due to APIC and such |
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| 00:32.17 | britt_ | what dir is dist-upgrade in |
| 00:32.29 | britt_ | bc it says command not found |
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| 00:33.05 | starshine | britt_: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 00:33.41 | britt_ | nothin |
| 00:33.44 | wols_ | britt_: and you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list first before updating |
| 00:34.08 | britt_ | oh to make them all sarge |
| 00:34.14 | FieldySnuts | @fart |
| 00:34.36 | wols_ | FieldySnuts: no more beans and tacos for you |
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| 00:35.39 | usuario | @book |
| 00:35.40 | ravenbird | i guess book is on the table |
| 00:35.44 | britt_ | what entries do i add in sources.list |
| 00:35.46 | britt_ | im there |
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| 00:35.56 | usuario | @hotmail |
| 00:35.56 | ravenbird | extra, extra, read all about it, hotmail is from satan, or a poor joke, or ascii pr0n, not html mail! |
| 00:35.59 | wols_ | replace "stable" with "sarge" and you're done |
| 00:36.05 | britt_ | cool |
| 00:36.14 | usuario | @msn |
| 00:36.14 | britt_ | thankx wols_ |
| 00:36.16 | ravenbird | msn is probably an abreviation for Microsoft Network. A nasty place where either the incredibaly stupid, or incredibably rich like. apparently now being used to mean just the instant messenger service |
| 00:36.44 | caitiff | Trying to set up X on a really old laptop. I 'think' I downloaded everything I need to set up X, but how do I set it up? |
| 00:36.47 | FieldySnuts | incredibly bad spelling |
| 00:36.49 | nevyn | that makes no sense. |
| 00:36.53 | caitiff | startx doesn't do anything |
| 00:36.57 | britt_ | YES! |
| 00:36.59 | starshine | caitiff: what's your video chip? |
| 00:37.06 | usuario | @linux |
| 00:37.07 | ravenbird | i heard linux is closed |
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| 00:37.23 | nevyn | "A nasty place where either the increibaly stupid, or incredibaly rick like. |
| 00:37.29 | britt_ | we are upgradiing |
| 00:37.37 | caitiff | starshine: very old toshiba lapper, not sure. I was wanting to run Xfree86 -configure or something |
| 00:37.38 | nevyn | s/where/which/ ? |
| 00:37.39 | britt_ | now 2.6 SMP kernel |
| 00:37.45 | britt_ | ? |
| 00:37.59 | FieldySnuts | 2.6 is a lot better at smp, i'd use it |
| 00:38.10 | britt_ | whatever will work the best |
| 00:38.27 | nevyn | ravenbird: ? |
| 00:38.27 | ravenbird | nevyn: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 00:38.31 | britt_ | do like a apt-cache something something kernel image 2.6 |
| 00:38.34 | wols_ | caitiff: dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-xserver |
| 00:38.36 | caitiff | starshine: maybe a better question is, 'if I want to install X after doing the floppy install, what would I apt-get? |
| 00:38.36 | dan2 | asg: ping |
| 00:38.49 | wols_ | britt_: apt-cache search, yes |
| 00:38.49 | dan2 | FieldySnuts: smp without nptl is just plain stupid |
| 00:38.53 | britt_ | cool |
| 00:38.57 | starshine | caitiff: xserver-xfree86 is the package you want |
| 00:38.58 | jetscreamer | x-window-system |
| 00:39.10 | jetscreamer | !info x-window-system |
| 00:39.13 | britt_ | dan2: what would you recommend |
| 00:39.14 | starshine | lspci should tell you what your "VGA controller" is |
| 00:39.18 | caitiff | starshine: and that includes the fonts etc? |
| 00:39.18 | dpkg | x-window-system: (X Window System), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-9 (sid), Packaged size: 146 kB, Installed size: 240 kB |
| 00:39.34 | pingouiin | what you guys would you use to make a snapshot from an webcam ? , command line tools prefered. |
| 00:39.55 | britt_ | does SMP have a 2.8 kernel |
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| 00:39.57 | jetscreamer | caitiff, ^^ |
| 00:39.59 | britt_ | probly no |
| 00:40.00 | starshine | caitiff: the task 'x-window-system' grabs basic fonts and minor bits you'll need; you will also want a window manager. |
| 00:40.08 | FieldySnuts | @confuse britt_ |
| 00:40.12 | nevyn | msn? |
| 00:40.12 | ravenbird | yes those was my bacon yesterday ? |
| 00:40.20 | jetscreamer | amsn |
| 00:40.21 | caitiff | starshine: I see, I did grab blackbox, thinking I already had the basic X |
| 00:40.30 | caitiff | jetscreamer: thanks. :) |
| 00:40.31 | nevyn | ravenbird: msn |
| 00:40.32 | ravenbird | msn is, like, an abreviation for Microsoft Network. A proprietary network that microsoft launched with windows 95. the term has since evolved to mean just the instant messanger service |
| 00:40.39 | nevyn | better. |
| 00:40.43 | jetscreamer | !info amsn |
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| 00:40.45 | wols_ | kernel-image-2.6.9-1-686-smp |
| 00:40.48 | dpkg | amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB |
| 00:40.48 | nevyn | sentances that make sense :) |
| 00:40.50 | britt_ | sweet |
| 00:40.59 | britt_ | thanks wols_ again |
| 00:41.02 | starshine | caitiff: blackbox should have dep'd xlibs, but you can run x apps at a 'display server' elsewhere. you still want x-window-system |
| 00:41.13 | caitiff | starshine: thanks~! |
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| 00:42.00 | Hollow_ | Hey, i installed debian in vmware virtual machine, and i want to mount a harddrive that is not in the system, how do it do that? |
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| 00:43.18 | wols_ | Hollow_: mount /dev/hdXY /mnt/mountpoint |
| 00:43.21 | wols_ | as root |
| 00:43.27 | Hollow_ | yeah |
| 00:43.33 | wols_ | and for permanence, edit your /etc/fstab |
| 00:43.39 | Hollow_ | but the harddrive is not found as hdb |
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| 00:43.57 | wols_ | are you sure it is available to that vmware session? |
| 00:44.06 | Hollow_ | im not sure |
| 00:44.13 | Hollow_ | but cant see why it shouldnt |
| 00:44.13 | wols_ | and it would be /dev/hdb1 or such, not just /dev/hdb |
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| 00:44.28 | Hollow_ | just says its not a valid block device |