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| 00:00.02 | swim | hi |
| 00:00.12 | eewald | cafuego: it won't load apm again after reboot |
| 00:00.15 | swim | how can I check if acpi is running? starting at boot? |
| 00:00.17 | luiz | some one that can help me ? please norway |
| 00:00.24 | kraig | eewald: vim /etc/modules |
| 00:00.28 | eewald | and i hate manually editing runlevels etc |
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| 00:00.46 | cafuego | eewald: echo apm >> /etc/modules |
| 00:00.52 | luiz | Someone from norway here ? |
| 00:01.07 | einarr | luiz: /j #linux.no |
| 00:01.22 | eewald | cafuego: as i understand, it will add an extra line to my modules config file? |
| 00:01.24 | n3o_X | hrm.. u know microsofts remote desktop client, is there anyway to get the gui of linux like that? |
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| 00:01.29 | williew | I ran 'base-config' and told apt to use cdrom ... however, I don't want it to use cdrom anymore...I selected 'ftp' when running 'base-config' again, but it still is asking for CDs?...how can I change that? |
| 00:01.35 | luiz | har prøvd der einarr fikk ikke no hjelp :( |
| 00:01.39 | cafuego | eewald: yep |
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| 00:01.43 | eewald | thank you |
| 00:01.52 | Shadur | williew: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:01.53 | kraig | n3o_X: like rdesktop? |
| 00:01.58 | Shadur | ~tell root__ about root |
| 00:02.01 | n3o_X | yea i guess, |
| 00:02.03 | williew | Shadur: thanks. |
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| 00:02.14 | n3o_X | like login and be able to use gnome froma remote computer |
| 00:02.29 | PerfDave | n3o_X: VNC? XDMCP? |
| 00:02.37 | n3o_X | ? |
| 00:02.47 | henke | luiz, is swedish good enough? |
| 00:03.14 | einarr | henke: i pointed him to the appropriate # |
| 00:03.20 | n3o_X | not a client, like say im sitting at my windows station.. can i RDP into my linux box in anyway? and get the desktop of the machine instead of just a shell? |
| 00:03.22 | swim | anyone? |
| 00:03.24 | swim | how can I check if acpi is running? starting at boot? |
| 00:03.24 | greycat | williew: or you can just run 'apt-setup' |
| 00:03.28 | henke | einarr, he said he didn't get any help there |
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| 00:03.53 | williew | greycat: already edited sources.list .. I commented out all lines with 'cdrom' in them ... doesn't seem to ask anymore. =) |
| 00:04.14 | greycat | yup, that would do it :) |
| 00:04.15 | einarr | henke: ah. well, he joined it just now. |
| 00:04.40 | henke | einarr, oh |
| 00:04.42 | n3o_X | anybody? |
| 00:04.50 | williew | I am using a nvidia card though - and i've just installed X ... is it necessary to get the appropriate drivers? The display seems to be working fine. |
| 00:05.07 | Shadur | williew: the nv drivers work fine, but they have no 3d acceleration. |
| 00:05.15 | einarr | n3o_X: you want an X server for windows? |
| 00:05.26 | williew | Shadur: so how do I get them? No-3D is fine with me. |
| 00:05.29 | greycat | what it "RDP"? |
| 00:05.45 | caphuso | remote desktop protocol |
| 00:05.45 | Shadur | williew: That's the one you're already using, apparently. |
| 00:05.45 | n3o_X | no, thats not what i mean.. wsayi have a windows 2000 server.. i can terminal into it and get the desktop for it.. is there a way to do that with linux? |
| 00:05.54 | caphuso | what MS uses instead of established stuff |
| 00:06.01 | greycat | joy. |
| 00:06.05 | tarzeau | if i had a background picture, that wants to be used in gnome, kde and everything. and it needs to be debian packaged. into what directory would it go? |
| 00:06.11 | jonesy | n3o_X: you could use VNC |
| 00:06.26 | n3o_X | whats vnc? |
| 00:06.32 | greycat | tarzeau: hmm... /usr/share/ something |
| 00:06.32 | tarzeau | dpkg vnc |
| 00:06.32 | dpkg | it has been said that vnc is Virtual Network Computing, at http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ VNC Tight Encoder at http://www.ce.cctpu.edu.ru/vnc/ for low-bandwidth links like dial-up.. GUI remote-access, or has nice friends at http://www.triviavnc.com/, or check forum.hexonet.com, hexonet.de for an alternative vnc server which can export an already existing display. . http://www.realvnc.com, or see http://developvnc.org/ from tridia, or see x-not-vnc |
| 00:06.57 | pipeline | n3o_X: rdesktop |
| 00:07.10 | pipeline | n3o_X: It's a windows remote desktop client for linux |
| 00:07.16 | n3o_X | i dont want a client |
| 00:07.19 | tarzeau | greycat: something being the packagename |
| 00:07.20 | pipeline | n3o_X: Alternatively, you could set up gdm to allow remote XDMCP connections |
| 00:07.33 | greycat | tarzeau: dunno.... read the FHS or LSB or whatever they call it this year. |
| 00:07.35 | pipeline | n3o_X: Which is not very secure compared to VNC, but a heck of a lot faster / more responsive |
| 00:08.01 | caphuso | tarzeau: /usr/share/wallpapers? |
| 00:08.13 | jonesy | n3o_X: you have to run the VNC server on your linux machine and then you can connect from any platform which has a vnc client |
| 00:08.15 | Macinux | xdmcp?? |
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| 00:08.47 | greycat | or, he could install an X server for windows |
| 00:08.48 | jonesy | pipeline: VNC performance is pretty good over a LAN link |
| 00:09.03 | tarzeau | caphuso: that's a way too generic packagename!!! |
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| 00:09.09 | tarzeau | caphuso: they'll kill me if i do that |
| 00:09.09 | einarr | jonesy: so is pure X. ;) |
| 00:09.34 | greycat | tarzeau: I don't think "/usr/share/${packagename}" is what you actually want. |
| 00:09.41 | ResQuad | Anyone here install Nagios on Debian? I tried today and ended up pulling down 1.3 (instead of 2.x). |
| 00:09.42 | caphuso | tarzeau: what does the package name have to do with it? |
| 00:09.42 | Joshage | hi folks :) |
| 00:09.44 | tarzeau | greycat: exactly |
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| 00:09.50 | jonesy | einarr: yeah, I use winaXe myself, from a windows box. seems to work well :) |
| 00:10.02 | tarzeau | caphuso: the thing is i don't have /usr/share/wallpapers yet |
| 00:10.12 | williew | When mounting a drive ... how can I make its mount point accessible by more than just root? |
| 00:10.16 | kraig | resiak: why 1.3 instead of 2.x? |
| 00:10.16 | tarzeau | caphuso: but some window managers, de's have background pictures, some here, some there |
| 00:10.27 | kraig | s/resiak/resquad |
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| 00:10.40 | pipeline | jonesy: Yeah, but X is freaking amazing over a LAN link. |
| 00:10.41 | tarzeau | caphuso: and isn't a background picture something that ANYONE should be able to choose, easily, regardless of what he has? |
| 00:10.51 | ResQuad | kraig: not sure.. |
| 00:10.59 | einarr | jonesy: i run a couple of dozen X thin clients with lts, using pure X. |
| 00:11.00 | pipeline | jonesy: VNC does much, much better with high-latency connections though. |
| 00:11.01 | tarzeau | greycat: debian doesn't handle this yet... neither does FHS or LSD or whatever they call it |
| 00:11.11 | greycat | then ask #debian-devel or something |
| 00:11.13 | n3o_X | !remove gnome |
| 00:11.13 | dpkg | i heard remove gnome is apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome") |
| 00:11.15 | caphuso | tarzeau: /usr/share/wallpapers/ is what the propaganda-debian package uses |
| 00:11.24 | kraig | ResQuad: was it postresql version, or the text version or at last, what happened, why didn't it worked? |
| 00:11.25 | pipeline | jonesy: X is really good with just a 64 kbps connection ... if it has low latency. |
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| 00:11.44 | greycat | oughtta just make a /usr/share/pr0n already. |
| 00:11.46 | n3o_X | !install kde |
| 00:11.46 | dpkg | somebody said install kde was In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
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| 00:11.51 | jonesy | am i right in thinking that the X data, breaks down to pretty much text? |
| 00:11.59 | ResQuad | kraig: well it kicked up a bunch of errors. Mainly I am just trying to find out how I can make it pull 2.x instead. |
| 00:12.11 | greycat | jonesy: it's all 0s and 1s. |
| 00:12.22 | disasm | i'd like to remove all of X and any package depending on X from a system. My sister used to use the computer for a web browser/aim box and she just got a new computer. I'd prefer not to do a fresh reinstall because I happen to be 3000 miles away from the computer. I'm just trying to clean it up some. If anyone knows any tricks with apt/dpkg/aptitude to remove all packages having to do anything with a gui, it would be very helpful. |
| 00:12.28 | greycat | disasm: /msg dpkg remove x |
| 00:12.31 | kraig | ResQuad: what errors? and btw, #nagios helps _sometimes_ |
| 00:13.13 | ResQuad | Kraig: couldnt tell you at the moment. As soon as I realized it was 2 years out of date I uninstalled it |
| 00:13.17 | jonesy | greycat: no wonder it's fast. |
| 00:13.35 | pipeline | jonesy: X data has a lot of ways to cram itself into ever smaller amounts of bandwidth. But latency is a real killer. |
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| 00:13.52 | kraig | ResQuad: ah, nothing to do then, but it worked pretty good for me (except for some image stuff...) |
| 00:13.53 | pipeline | jonesy: Keep in mind that it was once common to run dozens of terminals on a 10mbit *hubbed* network, without any significant performance problems. |
| 00:14.04 | ResQuad | kraig: what version do you have? |
| 00:14.12 | pipeline | jonesy: Hubs, meaning a throughput of roughly 100 kbps per station. |
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| 00:14.19 | einarr | pipeline: but new programs/libraries aren't built to preserve bandwitdht. |
| 00:14.28 | disasm | greycat: that was way too easy, i didn't realize you could pass --purge to apt-get remove, will remember for next time. |
| 00:14.58 | caphuso | you can pass --purge to apt-get install too |
| 00:15.00 | pipeline | einarr: Eh, it's still not much of an issue. Compression has gotten better and more common. The real killer on X is still latency. |
| 00:15.16 | pipeline | einarr: Which makes X pretty much impractical over the internet. 200 ms latency is just really painful. |
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| 00:15.48 | kraig | ResQuad: i _was_ using the 2 brand... i'm trying to do something like that, but with some enhancements and some other stuff i consider usefull for me... |
| 00:16.09 | jonesy | pipeline: not that vnc is much fun over the net either, but at least it's useable. |
| 00:16.32 | ResQuad | kraig: so did you install from cvs/source pkg? (to get 2.x) |
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| 00:16.59 | locsmif | hi. I am trying to find out what the memory size of a videocard is for a system info script. I was told by a regular here I should ask what the replacement for SuperProbe is :-) |
| 00:17.33 | petemc | locsmif: lspci -vvv should tell you |
| 00:17.52 | greycat | Eugh! Who's the last moron who added to the superprobe factoid? |
| 00:18.04 | locsmif | petemc: I tried that |
| 00:18.06 | greycat | !superprobe |
| 00:18.06 | dpkg | The mother of all probes. perhaps not obsolete, get mdetect, discover, read-edid, or perhaps not obsolete, get mdetect, discover, read-edid, or s/not/now in the line above |
| 00:18.22 | martha | When I use cdrecord, it warns me that there is no DMA at all :-( Is there supposed to be DMA for CDRs? How do I turn it on? I use Linux 2.6.9 |
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| 00:18.42 | greycat | martha: linux 2.6 can use DMA on *DATA* CD writing, if you use the ATA: driver. |
| 00:18.44 | greycat | but not on audio CDs. |
| 00:18.58 | locsmif | it's showing a number that possibly has to do with the size AGP can handle, but not the size of mem on the videocard, I doublechecked :) |
| 00:19.25 | ludi | hello what are the names of the packages that belong to build-essentials? |
| 00:19.45 | caphuso | ludi: apt-cache show build-essential | grep \^Depends: |
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| 00:19.50 | locsmif | I got the right one with dmesg | awk '/AGP aperture/{print$5}' , but using dmesg is ugly |
| 00:20.01 | locsmif | greycat, thanks |
| 00:20.03 | Dyaval | Ok HI I am trying to install a ati driver for my video card under linux iv done most everything then run fxglrxconfig and after that my x says it cant see the monitor. |
| 00:20.25 | ludi | caphuso: I'm not on debian system right now, would you mind posting the packages to me please? |
| 00:20.32 | caphuso | ludi: http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 00:21.09 | ludi | caphuso: yea I'm already there, but don't see "build-essentials" |
| 00:21.30 | caphuso | ludi: compare your use of build-essentials with my use of build-essential |
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| 00:24.26 | tony | command to show all active dhcp licenses? |
| 00:24.31 | macon | I have been using debian for about 4 years now, and I always found that people on this channel is kindda "rude" if one doesn't "get it right away", tonight I was doing some work with Fedora Core 3 and I used there fedora channel and the linux channel and people was so friendly and helpful. I just want to say to all people here that it is important to stay patient and helpfull. Specially because Debian sometimes needs a bit more work to work :-) |
| 00:25.20 | caphuso | damn, and i always thought debian needs less work to work... |
| 00:25.23 | macon | No need to freak out just because someone didn't find the info on the man page. |
| 00:25.48 | williew | To install firefox ... what would be the recommended method? It'd be nice to use apt, but what sources would I need? I could use the binary from mozilla.org I suppose - would this be the recommended way? |
| 00:26.04 | einarr | aptitude install mozilla-firefox |
| 00:26.10 | directhex | williew, you use woody, don;t you |
| 00:26.25 | swim | anyone use kpager2 ? |
| 00:26.31 | greycat | williew: upgrade to sarge, apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
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| 00:26.44 | ludi | caphuso: okay I downloaded "build-essential_10.1_i386.deb", how do I install it when I'm in debian? |
| 00:26.56 | williew | greycat: what makes you think I'm not using sarge? |
| 00:27.00 | caphuso | ludi: basically, you don't |
| 00:27.03 | greycat | the fact that you had to ask? |
| 00:27.09 | macon | less work to work, yeah well thats a matter of opinion ;) I love debian and use it a lot. But I just spend 2 days getting PPPoE up and I finally found that for some reason the stable version of pppoeconf didn't work right, so I used the unstable and no problems, tonight on fedora it took about 30 secs. |
| 00:27.19 | williew | >.> |
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| 00:27.30 | caphuso | ludi: you'd need to get all the dependancies and the dependancies of the dependancies and their dependancies too before you could install it |
| 00:27.48 | ludi | hmmm |
| 00:27.50 | directhex | ludi, you've never used debian before have you. you don't download debs for basic things. you apt-get install foo |
| 00:27.56 | directhex | ludi, i.e. apt-get install build-essential |
| 00:28.08 | ludi | I can't do that because I need to compile my Intel modem driver |
| 00:28.17 | ludi | and I don't have build-essential |
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| 00:28.37 | Dyaval | ludi |
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| 00:28.52 | ludi | Dyaval? |
| 00:28.53 | Dyaval | apt-get install gets the packet from the internet |
| 00:28.58 | Dyaval | and installs it |
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| 00:29.09 | caphuso | Dyaval: not without a working net connection |
| 00:29.09 | greycat | package, not packet |
| 00:29.14 | wntd | okay |
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| 00:29.31 | wntd | what's a sane way to set up permissions on /var/www/ so I can access it |
| 00:29.32 | Dyaval | caphuso well then it tells you which cd to put in |
| 00:29.55 | greycat | wntd: chgrp whatever /var/www; chmod g+w /var/www |
| 00:29.55 | macon | I think that some peope think they are "specielly wise" just because they are using debian, and thus forgets to be friendly. |
| 00:30.02 | ludi | I have some old sarge CDs, can I install build-essential from CD? |
| 00:30.18 | Dyaval | should be able 2 |
| 00:30.20 | caphuso | ludi: sure |
| 00:30.26 | greycat | macon: I think some people are "specially annoying" just because they think they're friendlier than the rest of us. |
| 00:30.42 | PerfDave | apt-get gets a package from your apt sources, whether that's CD or Internet or local filesystem or whatever. |
| 00:30.47 | ludi | but my system has been updated to the latest packages as of about a week ago, will it cause a conflict installing older packages from CD? |
| 00:30.51 | L3ECH | is there a way to install apache2-mpm-worker together with libapache2-mod-php4 (which requires apache2-mpm-prefork which conflicts with apache2-mpm-worker) without compiling anything? |
| 00:31.02 | resiak | L3ECH: apt-get install apache2-mpm-worker libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 00:31.07 | resiak | Ah. |
| 00:31.12 | resiak | Just read the bracket. |
| 00:31.14 | L3ECH | aha |
| 00:31.17 | caphuso | L3ECH: no, and you really don't want to |
| 00:31.26 | L3ECH | what should i do then? |
| 00:31.31 | |QuaD- | any idea when nvu or sunbird will make it to sid? |
| 00:31.37 | caphuso | L3ECH: use prefork |
| 00:31.44 | macon | greycat: Ahh, so you are one of them :-) I figured you'd show up quick ;-) |
| 00:31.49 | resiak | L3ECH: It conflicts for a reason. Go google. Basically, mod-php4 is not threadsafe, so you can only use it with prefork. |
| 00:31.54 | L3ECH | prefork is too slow. i got a 50 hits/sec on this server |
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| 00:32.12 | directhex | macon, misery loves company. there are hundrefds of really friendly fedora users just dying to tell you thay they had a problem JUST LIKE the one you had, but they never found a solution. tried looking on the linuxquestions.org forum? nothing but simple questions from fedora and mandrake users, who are really unhelpful but certainly friendly |
| 00:32.38 | caphuso | L3ECH: and php4 doesn't work reliably with anything else |
| 00:33.02 | greycat | doesn't it work fairly well with apache1? |
| 00:33.08 | caphuso | greycat: sure |
| 00:33.14 | caphuso | greycat: but that's not trendy |
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| 00:33.29 | giupy | hi all |
| 00:33.36 | L3ECH | right now i got freebsd on this server, running apache2-worker and php4. everything is great, except the fact that freebsd sucks and i want debian on it |
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| 00:34.39 | caphuso | http://www.php.net/release_4_3_0.php |
| 00:34.58 | caphuso | * Apache2 filter is improved, but is still considered experimental (use with PHP in prefork and not worker (thread) model since many extensions based on external libraries are not thread safe) |
| 00:35.02 | giupy | when i try connect with wvdial after sending password hung up and say me NO CARRIER...i use slmodemd for internal modem |
| 00:35.14 | giupy | wich can be the prob? |
| 00:35.21 | L3ECH | hmm... shit. oh well, thanks |
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| 00:36.05 | krakar | alguien me dice como se llama este canal |
| 00:36.09 | greycat | !spanish |
| 00:36.09 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 00:36.15 | krakar | si |
| 00:36.18 | PerfDave | L3ECH: Debian > FreeBSD, clearly ;) |
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| 00:36.36 | macon | I don't agree. The general spirit on fedora and Linux is much more friendly.. |
| 00:36.43 | L3ECH | PerfDave: damn straight. freebsd sucks ass. |
| 00:36.45 | macon | anyone being here daily.. |
| 00:36.48 | greycat | macon: then go there. |
| 00:36.59 | macon | Isn't people rude right away when people don't get an answer? |
| 00:37.09 | greycat | !advocacy troll |
| 00:37.10 | dpkg | well, advocacy troll is a term that greycat made up to describe a troll who demands action (typically unreasonable or unachievable) "for the good of Debian". Example: "Debian needs to have a graphical installer to make it easier for end users to increase its market share!" Example: "The BTS should have a web interface for submitting bugs so we can have vague, misspelled, irreproducible PEBKAC errors and no way to contact the submitter!" |
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| 00:37.33 | PerfDave | L3ECH: I used FreeBSD before I used Debian, I quite like it on the whole, but find Debian easier to work with. |
| 00:37.41 | macon | I am getting a lot of pm from people who agree, and I think we should do something to change the atmosphere on this channel a bit! |
| 00:38.01 | MobyTurbo | macon: then start your own channel. |
| 00:38.04 | greycat | macon: then start #debian-friendly or something. |
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| 00:38.38 | PerfDave | MobyTurbo: Well, I'm getting a lot of pm from people who think you're a tit ;) |
| 00:38.40 | PerfDave | Argh! |
| 00:38.45 | PerfDave | macon: Well, I'm getting a lot of pm from people who think you're a tit ;) |
| 00:38.48 | macon | No, thats not the solution.. the solution is to get the admin of this channel - since it is thew biggest to kick people who are rude off! |
| 00:38.48 | PerfDave | MobyTurbo: Sorry :) |
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| 00:39.03 | greycat | macon: please shut up. |
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| 00:39.11 | petemc | macon: check the channel owner |
| 00:39.14 | L3ECH | yeah. upgrades in freebsd are a pain. nothing like apt-get dist-upgrade... thats why i don't wanna compile anything... maybe i'll just leave prefork and see how it handles... |
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| 00:39.49 | L3ECH | thanks again * |
| 00:39.50 | PerfDave | macon: But the people who are less than entirely friendly are also the people who are most helpful and knowlegeable. Which is why they get to be so snarky, when confronted with comparative idiots all day and getting no reward for volunteering their services. |
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| 00:40.07 | daft | How can I test if a server is lissening to udp (some lame program like telnet for tcp) |
| 00:40.12 | greycat | daft: netcat (nc) |
| 00:40.25 | sphere | PerfDave: aww, you make it sound like they are coerced |
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| 00:40.34 | daft | ty |
| 00:40.34 | The_Vulture | netcat is teh kool. (no, really) |
| 00:40.52 | PerfDave | sphere: No, I'm saying that if we kicked people for not being sweetness and light then #debian's ability to help people would be seriously diminished. |
| 00:40.53 | macon | PerfDave: Those very people are the ones who are stuckup with the nose high in the air completely not understanding the true spirit of debian!! |
| 00:41.14 | PerfDave | macon: and what is the "true spirit of Debian"? In which document of the Debian Project is it written? |
| 00:41.22 | macon | And they are also the ones contaminating debian community |
| 00:41.23 | greycat | macon: and what, o mighty knower of all that is right, is the "true spirit" of debian? |
| 00:41.34 | caphuso | i am! |
| 00:41.39 | dataw0lf | Jello. |
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| 00:41.46 | MerlinCorey | caphuso for debian spirit leader! |
| 00:41.46 | DarknessX | I have a USB Flash-Memory thing. I'd like to it to be automounted when I stick it in the box (it's recognized, kernel signal sent, etc.) What's the easiest way to do this? |
| 00:41.47 | PerfDave | greycat: I'm hoping fo a decent single malt, personally. |
| 00:41.58 | macon | Well you would know that if you didn't spend most of the time here being stuckup yourselfs.. check out the debian website. |
| 00:42.05 | *** mode/#debian [+o caphuso] by ChanServ |
| 00:42.08 | *** kick/#debian [macon!foobar@pD9E56C85.dip.t-dialin.net] by caphuso (caphuso) |
| 00:42.08 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@pppoe1-dby.broadcom.dk] by caphuso |
| 00:42.10 | MerlinCorey | lol |
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| 00:42.11 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 00:42.14 | PerfDave | !win caphuso |
| 00:42.15 | dpkg | Congratulations, caphuso! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 00:42.20 | zignig | DarknessX: have a look at automount. |
| 00:42.23 | MerlinCorey | what a cop-out of a troll |
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| 00:42.40 | DarknessX | zignig: thanks |
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| 00:42.47 | zignig | DarknessX: np |
| 00:42.51 | greycat | the last bit of the topic is out of date now, isn't it? |
| 00:43.02 | caphuso | greycat: yes |
| 00:43.06 | *** mode/#debian [+o greycat] by ChanServ |
| 00:43.12 | *** topic/#debian by greycat -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Debian is NOT Knoppix | Sarge Base+Standard frozen; installer: /msg dpkg d-i | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg |
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| 00:44.52 | disasm | DarknessX: http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsamwel/usb_storage_on_debian.html |
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| 00:45.45 | MerlinCorey | base + standard frozen... is there much else or is it happenin' more or less sooner than it has been said soon? |
| 00:46.00 | dca | after i've modprobed something how do i ensure it is started on a reboot? |
| 00:46.02 | greycat | autoconf (2.59a-1) unstable; urgency=low * Removed documentation. Hope this makes everyone happy. Closes: #281671, #281672, #143536. |
| 00:46.38 | harryvv | proper way to add a route for debian is route add default gw "Ipaddress" right? well im getting a network cannot be found error. |
| 00:46.46 | The_Vulture | dca: man 5 modprobe |
| 00:46.53 | PerfDave | harryvv: man 5 interfaces |
| 00:47.00 | DarknessX | disasm: awesome, thanks |
| 00:47.19 | harryvv | perf, man sucks |
| 00:47.25 | kbrooks | brb |
| 00:47.28 | greycat | !man interfaces |
| 00:47.29 | dpkg | Edit /etc/network/interfaces. For DHCP: auto eth0 (newline) iface eth0 inet dhcp For static: auto eth0 (newline) iface eth0 inet static (newline)(tab) address xx.xx.xx.xx (newline)(tab) netmask nn.nn.nn.nn (newline)(tab) gateway gg.gg.gg.gg |
| 00:47.33 | PerfDave | harryvv: Diddums |
| 00:47.48 | kbrooks | And Kyle has now declared He shall be Right Back. |
| 00:47.52 | kbrooks | BRB! |
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| 00:48.28 | giupy | when i try connect with wvdial after sending password hung up and say me NO CARRIER...i use slmodemd for internal modem, i have just used Carrier Check = no in wvdial.conf |
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| 00:49.21 | synic | any of you have a thinkpad r31 ? |
| 00:49.33 | synic | the wireless model? I'd like to know what the chipset for that wireless card is |
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| 00:50.53 | MobyTurbo | giupy: have you tried using pppconfig to create a non-redialing ppp setup? Did it not work too? |
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| 00:51.33 | ralf | Ciao! |
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| 00:52.04 | giupy | MobyTurbo, yes pon do number phone and than hung up |
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| 00:52.16 | bill_jack43 | On my flag a baby's what is this cupids room |
| 00:52.18 | bill_jack43 | On the fly seen a alien in the window dedicate one for the team |
| 00:52.20 | bill_jack43 | all in the dark riot |
| 00:52.22 | bill_jack43 | set me free charges are just bronze medals bodies run for the gold |
| 00:52.22 | ResQuad | kraig: Well after much research, I have discovered that 2.x APT pkg doesnt exist (yet) |
| 00:52.24 | bill_jack43 | makes you go insane who's playing, who wanted to go deaf was it me |
| 00:52.26 | bill_jack43 | why do I feel free the choppers coming with disrespect your dead dale |
| 00:52.28 | bill_jack43 | I will see you at the end of the night for the governors place |
| 00:52.30 | bill_jack43 | the bloods is all over you some wanna die |
| 00:52.55 | kraig | _much_? |
| 00:53.04 | Isil`Zha | how do i install apxs support on debian the easiest way? or how do i find out if my apache already supports that? i use other *.so modules already atm |
| 00:53.15 | Isil`Zha | (talking about apache) |
| 00:53.21 | ResQuad | kraig: yea... I am guessing since 2.x just came out lats week, no one has gotten around to it yet |
| 00:53.47 | kraig | wasn't it enough to look at www.debian.org/distrib/packages ? |
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| 00:54.44 | ResQuad | kraig: Of course not. Not if you like to live on the bleading edge... I checked out apt-get.org and a few other places |
| 00:54.47 | Isil`Zha | who do you mean kraig? me? |
| 00:55.25 | kraig | ResQuad: great for you then |
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| 00:55.50 | Isil`Zha | i searched with dpkg -l ... should be the same effect? |
| 00:55.53 | ResQuad | lol |
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| 00:55.56 | kraig | :P |
| 00:56.02 | ResQuad | I cant win em all, eh? |
| 00:56.29 | giupy | anyone one with acer aspire 1700 first version? |
| 00:56.31 | ResQuad | damn all dem pkg maintainers _actually_ taking time off for the holidays! |
| 00:56.45 | locsmif | giupy, what bout it |
| 00:56.55 | locsmif | I may want to buy such a model |
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| 00:57.39 | giupy | locsmif, great pc but i have the first ver, video integrated ....... |
| 00:57.50 | swim | at boot modprobe says it tries to load floppy.ko, Im on a laptop, so that ofcourse fails, but I dont see floppy in modprobe.conf or in fstab... I want it to stop trying to load any ideas anyone? |
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| 00:58.00 | giupy | now there is with atiradeon if i remember |
| 00:58.17 | The_Vulture | swim: in /etc/modules? |
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| 00:58.51 | swim | The_Vulture, no not in there either |
| 00:59.01 | locsmif | giupy, ATI sucks with linux/debian support afaik |
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| 00:59.25 | locsmif | nvidia has closed source drivers, but work much better |
| 00:59.39 | Isil`Zha | any idea how i could get by this problem? "make: apxs: Command not found" |
| 00:59.41 | tha_gamemaster | hey how can I view the speed of the ram from a linux console? (sd-ram pc1xx) |
| 00:59.43 | giupy | locsmif, i think new model has nvidia no ati |
| 01:00.23 | justin | !tell Isil`Zha about search |
| 01:00.59 | locsmif | http://www.update.nl/producten/laptops/acer/1511 |
| 01:01.06 | locsmif | that model is close |
| 01:01.15 | locsmif | has nVidia 64 Mb GeForce FX go 5700 |
| 01:01.31 | Isil`Zha | justin: thnx. i thought dpkg -l should do the job too... ^^ |
| 01:01.34 | swim | any other ideas The_Vulture ? |
| 01:01.39 | giupy | locsmif, good |
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| 01:02.00 | The_Vulture | swim: not off hand, perhaps hotplug or something, you could grep /etc for "floppy" but it might not do much good.. |
| 01:02.24 | giupy | bye all |
| 01:02.39 | gradzac | swim: add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist |
| 01:02.55 | gradzac | swim: the module that is... |
| 01:02.58 | swim | gradzac, just a line: floppy.ko ? |
| 01:03.05 | harryvv | which sources list has all packages? I went to apt-get update then apt-get install "known package name" and it did not see it. |
| 01:03.21 | gradzac | swim: yeah...I think there is a manpage for the file |
| 01:03.27 | harryvv | im using http://security.debian.org |
| 01:03.34 | swim | cool thanks gradzac |
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| 01:03.53 | gradzac | swim: i think there was another place I had to modify as well...hold on |
| 01:03.57 | daft | I want to masq a XDMCP session trough my server (connected to Inet) to my destop but it says cannot create XDMCP buffer how can i fix that (or am i dont stupid here) |
| 01:04.13 | daft | doing* |
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| 01:04.32 | magaete | hi |
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| 01:04.46 | magaete | how to create a /dev/audio0 ?? |
| 01:04.59 | The_Vulture | magaete: load the driver for your soundcard? |
| 01:05.11 | magaete | The_Vulture : yes |
| 01:05.29 | Karhuton | Well, I've done my good deed for the day - I submitted an bug report. |
| 01:06.02 | swim | k thx gradzac |
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| 01:07.39 | swim | where might I look for ed2k debian package? |
| 01:07.51 | gradzac | swim: I can't remember where else I had to look, try adding the module name (minus the .ko) to the blacklist file....if that doesn't help google for hotplug and debian |
| 01:08.02 | swim | ok |
| 01:08.27 | sigmachi | Hey peeps; hate to ask this FAQ, but what do I put into sources.list to upgrade woody to sarge? |
| 01:08.37 | gradzac | swim: I just remember that there were two places I had to modify (I did it for a soundcard to stop OSS drivers from loading) |
| 01:08.41 | nvz | sigmachi: THEN ask a bot |
| 01:08.45 | nvz | damn caps key |
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| 01:08.55 | nvz | sigmachi: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
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| 01:09.44 | oberke | hello, how the f do i apply a patch generated by svn diff ? patch isn't happy with any combination of -pN, -R etc. options |
| 01:09.59 | sigmachi | the bot just tells me to change everything in sources.list to sarge. That didn't help |
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| 01:10.12 | nvz | sigmachi: thats what you do |
| 01:10.15 | sigmachi | I don't know what's wrong with my sources, but I need the full links. :-S |
| 01:10.25 | nvz | sigmachi: then apt-setup first |
| 01:10.28 | artichoke | i have WNT on hda1 and linux on hda2. the new lilo wants to assign hda1 a new volume label, and when i say no, it aborts. how can i install a new kernel? |
| 01:10.38 | nvz | sigmachi: and change the woody or stable to sarge |
| 01:10.39 | artichoke | new lilo means the one sarge installs. |
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| 01:12.00 | loke_ | hello |
| 01:12.27 | sigmachi | apt-setup? How do I do that. It's not just a shell command. lol. sorry to display my ignorance. |
| 01:12.42 | nvz | actually it is |
| 01:12.45 | directhex | apt-setup is a command which sets up apt |
| 01:12.58 | nvz | sigmachi: type apt-setup, its an ncurses based apt configuration tool |
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| 01:13.21 | Pumpkin_Pie | nvz: I do not have apt-setup for some reason ? |
| 01:13.23 | sigmachi | Ug! Sorry, I'm tired tonight. Forgot to SU. lol. :-\ |
| 01:13.35 | nvz | Pumpkin_Pie: no idea |
| 01:13.43 | nvz | Pumpkin_Pie: maybe you are not root |
| 01:13.49 | Kerr | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.01 | sigmachi | Pumpkin_Pie: yeah... su... I just did the same thing (slap! wake up me!) |
| 01:14.19 | Pumpkin_Pie | sigmachi: uhh let me see if thats the problem here |
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| 01:15.16 | Pumpkin_Pie | well I login as root. |
| 01:15.19 | swim | bizarre installed mldonkey-gui but I cant find it anywhere |
| 01:15.21 | dca | how do i unload a module i've modprobed? |
| 01:15.41 | directhex | swim, dpkg -L foo to see what it installed |
| 01:15.47 | directhex | dca, modprobe -r foo |
| 01:16.10 | Pumpkin_Pie | I am root and I do not have apt-setup |
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| 01:17.11 | swim | cool thanks directhex |
| 01:17.13 | sigmachi | nvz: thanx, should be sarg-ing later this evening. :-) |
| 01:17.50 | directhex | Pumpkin_Pie, /usr/sbin/apt-setup is in the base-config package. you better HOPE you have it, or you've fucked your system... |
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| 01:18.03 | directhex | Pumpkin_Pie, which version exactly of debian are you running, and how did you install it? |
| 01:18.17 | giupy | what does it mean this msg Couldn't create IP socket: Address family not supported by protocol(97) ? |
| 01:18.32 | giupy | i recive this when i try run pon |
| 01:19.34 | SlimeyPete | well, protocols (e.g. tcp/ip) generally specify certain address-ranges that are valid |
| 01:20.08 | SlimeyPete | e.g. 192.168.0.0.3.45 isn't valid in TCP/IP v4 (dunno bout v6, never looked at it) |
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| 01:20.10 | MrEntropy | yo |
| 01:21.23 | MrEntropy | debian: you broke my prostheric hand! |
| 01:21.41 | giupy | do i need something in kernel ? |
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| 01:23.16 | giupy | join #linux |
| 01:23.20 | giupy | oops |
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| 01:25.09 | artichoke | i have WNT on disk hda and linux on hda. the new lilo wants to assign hda a new volume label but warns it will hose WNT, and when i say no, lilo aborts. how can i install a new kernel? |
| 01:25.35 | tony | artichoke , use grub instead? |
| 01:25.51 | directhex | winnar \o/ |
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| 01:26.03 | derek | whats a good php editor |
| 01:26.08 | directhex | vi |
| 01:26.12 | corallis | what is the command to alter what services start up at boot time? |
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| 01:26.40 | Sliqui1 | every time i try to cancel a print job in gnome, the print queue app freezes and just keeps printing. |
| 01:26.46 | Sliqui1 | how to fix? |
| 01:27.02 | derek | corallis: /etc/init.d/ |
| 01:27.16 | Sliqui1 | derek: Bluefish? |
| 01:27.16 | greycat | corallis: update-rc.d, rcconf, etc. |
| 01:27.17 | The_Vulture | corallis: update-rc.d |
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| 01:27.27 | corallis | ok, thanks.. update-rc.d was what i was looking for |
| 01:27.55 | tim | derek, chech out quanta |
| 01:28.03 | derek | Sliquil: its nice but i liked the ones that fill in as you go, like dreamweaver |
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| 01:28.44 | artichoke | tony eh i meant i have linux on hdb. but anyway i just installed grub. the manpage doesn't look very informative, how do i install a new kernel with it? |
| 01:28.48 | derek | tim: thanks, that looks good |
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| 01:29.11 | tim | ok |
| 01:29.37 | tony | artichoke , http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html |
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| 01:30.11 | artichoke | tony thanks |
| 01:30.19 | Sliqui1 | how can i cancel print jobs? |
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| 01:30.37 | derek | tim: do you have to have KDE to run quanta? |
| 01:30.39 | greycat | lprm, cancel |
| 01:31.21 | tim | derek: yes kde |
| 01:31.25 | zamolxes | derek: no, but apt will kindly install it for you anyway |
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| 01:32.01 | |stefan| | anyone know in what package i can find application "dot" ? |
| 01:32.13 | The_Vulture | |stefan|: graphviz |
| 01:32.21 | |stefan| | thanks |
| 01:32.30 | The_Vulture | use apt-file search or packages.debian.org to find packages based on files they contain next time |
| 01:32.34 | swim | anyone using mldonkey? |
| 01:32.34 | tony | derek , with regard to your php editor Q |
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| 01:32.48 | tony | derek , you might want to check out 'quanta plus' |
| 01:32.55 | artichoke | swim i used to use some sort of donkey on windows |
| 01:33.05 | |stefan| | The_Vulture ah ok =) tried packages.debian.org . it didn't fine anything |
| 01:33.37 | swim | im just curious of mldonkey configuration |
| 01:33.43 | swim | on debian] |
| 01:33.53 | tim | swim:use bit tornado |
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| 01:34.06 | derek | i've been looking at them, apparently it requires kde, also you'd think they'd have a better website with such a good editing tool |
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| 01:34.14 | abrotman | !find dot |
| 01:34.15 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'dot' (7 shown): libdotconf-dev ;; libdotconf1.0 ;; libpam-dotfile ;; odot ;; sig2dot ;; squishdot ;; synopsis-formatter-dot. |
| 01:34.25 | tony | derek, kde is nice |
| 01:34.38 | derek | i like gnome |
| 01:34.43 | The_Vulture | |stefan|: try harder next time :) http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=bin%2Fdot&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 01:34.47 | abrotman | derek: eclipse or bluefish |
| 01:34.49 | abrotman | or anjuta |
| 01:35.00 | derek | ok, i'll take a look a them |
| 01:35.01 | tony | derek , then perhaps you should try ajunta or bluefish |
| 01:35.01 | derek | thanks |
| 01:35.03 | abrotman | derek: anjuta and bluefish are both gtk |
| 01:35.24 | |stefan| | The_Vulture ;) |
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| 01:37.36 | Isil`Zha | does anyone where could get informations about mod_cvs? i need to talk with someone using it. it searched the web over and over... the information there doesn't seem to help me |
| 01:38.05 | tony | Isil`Zha , you might want to try on #apache |
| 01:38.08 | Isil`Zha | *sigh* * does anyone know where i could... *sorry+ ^^; |
| 01:38.18 | Isil`Zha | hmm i treid... other idea? ^^ |
| 01:38.23 | tony | what's the problem? |
| 01:38.26 | Isil`Zha | but thnx anyway ;) |
| 01:38.38 | Isil`Zha | the problem is: it doesn't seem to work :/ |
| 01:38.52 | tony | what doesn't? what do the logs say? what is your error? |
| 01:38.58 | Isil`Zha | everything set up and seems to be fine... it just doesn't do what it's expected to :( |
| 01:39.17 | tony | I'm sorry, that's not very descriptive |
| 01:39.25 | Isil`Zha | hmm where would that error occur? |
| 01:39.33 | tony | ? |
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| 01:40.07 | Isil`Zha | i checked the error.log of that domain. nothing interesting |
| 01:40.18 | Isil`Zha | do you mean the error log of apache itself? |
| 01:40.55 | tony | Isil`Zha , yes, if you don't find anything in the first log, perhaps you should check others? |
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| 01:42.34 | Isil`Zha | yes there were errors but earlier |
| 01:42.44 | ludi | anyone know what this error means when compiling Nvidia kernel module? "Could not compile gcc-version-check.c" |
| 01:42.53 | Isil`Zha | hmm or no i forgot the clock is one hour ahead... |
| 01:42.58 | Isil`Zha | sec... |
| 01:43.20 | directhex | !b-e ludi |
| 01:43.21 | dpkg | ludi: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 01:43.22 | tim | ludi: have you got the kernel headers installed??? |
| 01:43.30 | ludi | I think so, yes |
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| 01:43.43 | archonchild | hi all, i'm having some problems.. wife was playing freecell in gnome, things froze up (couldn't restart x-server, couldn't even reboot the machine nicely, it needed a cold boot) on reboot, mount and pretty much every other executable is reporting that it cannot run binary executable... any ideas? |
| 01:43.43 | Isil`Zha | hmm no errors. but notices |
| 01:44.02 | directhex | archonchild, sounds like b0rked hard disk |
| 01:44.10 | directhex | archonchild, or fs at least |
| 01:44.26 | Isil`Zha | tony: doesn't seem to be related though |
| 01:44.27 | tim | ludi: uname -a tells you which kernel and check aptitude for kernel headers |
| 01:44.29 | archonchild | :( |
| 01:44.33 | ludi | is there no way of installing build-essential by manually downloading the few packages and manually installing? |
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| 01:44.36 | bwbettin | archonchild, I hope you've been keeping backups |
| 01:44.43 | archonchild | :( |
| 01:44.46 | pipeline | archonchild: In addition, sounds like hardware problems. |
| 01:44.51 | pipeline | archonchild: Things don't just lock up. |
| 01:44.56 | pipeline | Usually when shit goes bad, things crash :) |
| 01:45.00 | herbi | archonchild, do you have access to logs? |
| 01:45.05 | herbi | or not |
| 01:45.15 | bwbettin | yeah, don't think i've ever had my box lockup...just had programs crash and exit |
| 01:45.17 | tim | ludi: check this out http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/ |
| 01:45.18 | MrEntropy | where is a good place to look for packages other than the standard ones? i'm specifically looking for a firebird package |
| 01:45.20 | kamikazi | i need an App better xcdroast under gnome, can some body help me ? |
| 01:45.27 | herbi | first thing you should check is before assuming hardware error is to check for kernel panic or similar |
| 01:45.29 | kamikazi | better than* |
| 01:45.39 | archonchild | maybe if i boot up in "recovery mode" i can get a root login and view the filesystem in readonly, but can't get network connectivity for the help from irc |
| 01:45.42 | pipeline | kamikazi: This is gnome's greatest failing. I gave up and installed k3b. |
| 01:45.44 | herbi | kamikazi, use bashburn |
| 01:45.47 | bwbettin | archonchild, maybe your wife got mad at the game and hit the computer? ;) |
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| 01:46.00 | SharkY | hii |
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| 01:46.25 | kamikazi | herbi, thx man |
| 01:46.29 | pipeline | kamikazi: Alternatively, nautilus-cd-burner kinda works. |
| 01:46.30 | archonchild | bwbettin, no she is pretty good at freecell, no need to go smakin' |
| 01:46.37 | SharkY | when i try to compile my courier with mysql support i recive this error: |
| 01:46.38 | bwbettin | heh |
| 01:46.39 | SharkY | authmysql.c:78: error: register name not specified for `__result' |
| 01:46.39 | SharkY | make[2]: ** [authmysql.o] Erro 1 |
| 01:46.39 | SharkY | make[2]: Leaving directory `/source/courier-imap-3.0.8/authlib' |
| 01:46.39 | SharkY | make[1]: ** [all] Erro 2 |
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| 01:46.41 | tony | archonchild , boot to a rescue cd and check that disk |
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| 01:46.49 | zirikili | I really don't understand the mb2md sintax. does anyone have ever user it? |
| 01:47.39 | archonchild | tony, i currently don't have a rescue cd, but i assume i can pull one down (knoppix???) and burn from windows |
| 01:47.52 | herbi | MrEntropy, firebird? as in firefox? heh |
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| 01:48.10 | MrEntropy | herbi: no, the relational database firebird |
| 01:48.13 | herbi | ah |
| 01:48.16 | herbi | freshmeat.net |
| 01:48.19 | herbi | or sourceforge.net |
| 01:48.21 | tony | archonchild , yep, sounds fine |
| 01:48.34 | archonchild | ok, will do, thanks all... (fingers crossed) |
| 01:48.45 | tony | archonchild , although I would prolly just use a debian rescue cd image |
| 01:48.51 | MrEntropy | herbi: that's where you get the bins. but the install script in those fucks up |
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| 01:49.13 | kamikazi | pipeline, ok thx man ;) |
| 01:49.14 | herbi | MrEntropy, id imagine your problem rather than the problem of the bins :) |
| 01:49.23 | herbi | thats your problem, even. |
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| 01:49.37 | struct | does anyone know of a server that hosts a jdk 5 debian package? |
| 01:49.49 | MrEntropy | herbi: the scripts says 'ex' editor not found, when its clearly there |
| 01:50.05 | directhex | struct, why, do you need one? |
| 01:50.13 | herbi | clearly its where |
| 01:50.15 | struct | directhex: for convenience |
| 01:50.19 | directhex | struct, make your own, all the cool kids do |
| 01:50.24 | MrEntropy | herbi: /usr/bin/ex |
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| 01:50.42 | pipeline | struct: There are java packages out there, but nobody really updates them anymore, due to the fact that the "roll your own package" packages are so much easier. |
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| 01:50.55 | pipeline | struct: The newest one I could find was some horrible, horrible 1.4-beta. |
| 01:50.55 | herbi | MrEntropy, run an strace on the bin and find out where its looking for ex |
| 01:50.55 | struct | roll your own package? |
| 01:51.11 | struct | i don't know how to roll my own packages. where do i start? |
| 01:51.25 | herbi | at google |
| 01:51.30 | pipeline | struct: Heh, there's packages that handle it for you, actually. You just have to download an SDK from Sun or Blackdown. |
| 01:51.34 | directhex | struct, download a .bin from sun. download the java-package and sun-jdk1.5debian packages from sid |
| 01:51.49 | struct | thanks. |
| 01:51.50 | directhex | struct, then make-jpkg /path/to/sunjdk.bin |
| 01:51.56 | struct | ok. |
| 01:51.59 | struct | gotcha. |
| 01:52.08 | directhex | oh, and java-common also from sid |
| 01:52.26 | pipeline | you want java-common, java-package, and java-virtual-machine-dummy |
| 01:52.36 | MrEntropy | herbi: it's looking for it in $PATH from what i see. |
| 01:52.59 | struct | okay, cool. and that's it? |
| 01:53.01 | MrEntropy | herbi: i think it's finding it, but the return value it wants isn't the same |
| 01:53.02 | herbi | MrEntropy, do you have a $PATH exported? :P |
| 01:53.17 | MrEntropy | herbi: hehe, yes =) |
| 01:53.18 | The_Vulture | pipeline: why would you need the dummy if you are going to install a package made with java-package? |
| 01:53.18 | directhex | struct, that will build a jdk .deb |
| 01:53.25 | struct | awesome :) |
| 01:53.35 | dael | does anyone here have their CCNA by chance? |
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| 01:53.48 | pipeline | !tell dael about polls |
| 01:53.51 | cafuego | save running-config as ccna-config |
| 01:54.01 | dael | pipeline: hey, thanks!!! |
| 01:54.39 | MrEntropy | herbi: it's checking for ex with "ex <<EOS >/dev/null 2>&1"... |
| 01:54.56 | MrEntropy | herbi: and it needs 0 as a return value to pass it |
| 01:55.09 | herbi | what is ex returning? |
| 01:55.18 | debian | dael: real man get CCIE |
| 01:55.30 | dael | debian: well, i'm not a man. so i guess i'm exempt. |
| 01:55.42 | MrEntropy | herbi: when i run that on the command line, it just waits for some sort of input indefinitely |
| 01:55.48 | cafuego | debian: real men spend their money on hookers and alcohol, not retarded certifications. |
| 01:55.50 | debian | dael: CCNA/NP is for network guy(or girl if you like) wanna be |
| 01:55.55 | pipeline | dael: Being female will get you a job in a heartbeat. Are you also a minority? If not, be sure to get a deep tan and claim to be native american. |
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| 01:56.09 | archonchild | tony, is there a standard debian rescue cd that i can pull from the net? |
| 01:56.21 | cafuego | archonchild: Just the netinst cdrom |
| 01:56.24 | pipeline | archonchild: The installer discs are also rescue CD's. Just use "rescue" at the boot prompt. |
| 01:56.28 | dael | pipeline: yes, i'm also a transexual. i sold my black dick on the black market and made a ton, but now i'm out of money and need a job fast! |
| 01:56.32 | dael | pipeline: thanks for all your help, btw! |
| 01:56.33 | herbi | MrEntropy, can you modify the checking command? |
| 01:56.34 | archonchild | ahh ok. |
| 01:56.35 | cafuego | archonchild: The business card one actually, it's a bit smaller. |
| 01:56.49 | scarynetworkguy | No, real network geeks know better than to want/need certs. |
| 01:57.05 | pipeline | dael: Oh, I'm a CCNA all right. I just didn't want to rise to an "anyone" question. |
| 01:57.09 | herbi | MrEntropy, get it to check for "ls" or something? :P i mean we both know ex is there, so just get it to check for some other binary that will assuredly return 0 |
| 01:57.16 | debian | dael: please take your discrimination discussion elsewhere. We've no interest in this subject |
| 01:57.23 | MrEntropy | herbi: sure, it's just a bash script...but i'm worried that if i just hash the thing out, it'll work ok, but what if later there reall IS a problem with ex |
| 01:57.39 | dael | debian: obviously you didn't get it. |
| 01:57.43 | debian | dael: my apology if it doesn't seem so, but I'm trying to help. |
| 01:57.50 | herbi | MrEntropy, i think it just uses ex to display the license, actually. |
| 01:58.10 | MrEntropy | herbi: oh...ok, easy enough |
| 01:58.40 | herbi | give it a go...if theres a problem with ex and you need it, you can uninstall and work it out but i doubt its anything more than to display the license |
| 01:58.43 | dael | look, i was just going to ask for recommendation on study manuals, not opinions on certs, or whether or not girls can get jobs. |
| 01:59.05 | debian | dael: I didn't comment on your gender, it was you who raise it |
| 01:59.26 | herbi | dael, then you shouldve "just" asked. |
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| 02:00.08 | debian | dael: nor the color of your skin for that matter |
| 02:00.17 | dael | nevermind, thanks anyway. |
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| 02:00.32 | herbi | ask offtopic question, get offtopic answer. |
| 02:01.10 | debian | herbi: too treu |
| 02:01.12 | debian | true |
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| 02:06.56 | herbi | does anyone know how cross platform the syslog system is? |
| 02:07.20 | herbi | i mean if i have a solaris 8 boxen sitting here, setup as a syslog server, can i tell all the computers on my network to send their syslog data there? |
| 02:07.27 | herbi | or does it have to be same/similar OS |
| 02:07.45 | mrwill | herbi: you know what, I think you can do that. |
| 02:07.54 | herbi | good. |
| 02:08.28 | herbi | once my sparcs arrive, ill set up one as the syslog server for the network |
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| 02:08.56 | herbi | i got 2 free sparcs + monitors for both + keyboard and mouse |
| 02:09.01 | directhex | herbi, i'm not 100% certain, linux & solaris have some slight naming differences over syslog entries |
| 02:09.23 | mrwill | directhex: yeah, but that's just formatting of text, right? |
| 02:09.49 | directhex | mrwill, no, i mean service.priority type differences |
| 02:09.56 | herbi | directhex, i hope not |
| 02:10.06 | herbi | it doesnt make any sense for them to implement it differently |
| 02:10.12 | herbi | because syslog is an open standard |
| 02:10.26 | herbi | and it would be very microsoft of sun to not adhere to the open standard |
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| 02:10.42 | mrwill | directhex: well, I think the server you are logging to will accept the logs you send it, with the settings of the machine it is sent from. |
| 02:10.43 | gradzac | any idea what I do to allow root to access my X display? (I did "su -") |
| 02:11.02 | The_Vulture | ~tell gradzac about sshx |
| 02:11.03 | pipeline | gradzac: "xhost +localhost", or "xhost +". |
| 02:11.04 | The_Vulture | or sux, etc.. |
| 02:11.06 | gravity | gradzac: Read the FAQ in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common |
| 02:11.25 | directhex | mrwill, well i'm not sure how you'd log local3.info on solaris, let me put it that way. plus, annoyingly, you can't use * on solaris |
| 02:11.34 | herbi | The_Vulture, any input on my question? youre the smart one :D |
| 02:12.43 | The_Vulture | herbi: no idea |
| 02:12.51 | herbi | -1 point! |
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| 02:14.10 | mrwill | directhex: hmmm, maybe syslog-ng would be a better idea for this, then. |
| 02:14.39 | kensai | How I burn a .avi file as vcd in k3b? |
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| 02:15.23 | directhex | kensai, you don't. vcd is an mpeg1 stream, low resolution |
| 02:16.19 | directhex | also, k3b has no vcd burning capability |
| 02:16.19 | kensai | directhex,??? I just want to burn a .avi in a way I can see it on my dvd player |
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| 02:17.11 | kensai | directhex, ahhh ok |
| 02:17.19 | imka | who wants a gmail invite? |
| 02:17.29 | mrwill | imka: do you still need those to get on gmail? |
| 02:17.34 | kensai | directhex, so there is no way to do this in linux |
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| 02:17.36 | kensai | > |
| 02:17.38 | imka | mrwill yes |
| 02:17.38 | richb | me pls :-) |
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| 02:17.48 | directhex | kensai, k3b != LINUX |
| 02:17.50 | mrwill | kensai: actually there is, we just won't tell you. |
| 02:18.04 | mrwill | imka: man, I thought it was open to the public by now. silly me. |
| 02:18.07 | kensai | mrwill, ok why? |
| 02:18.18 | mrwill | kensai: because we hate you. |
| 02:18.30 | mrwill | kensai: and google could tell you better. |
| 02:18.31 | kensai | mrwill, lol |
| 02:18.42 | imka | ok, any1 who wants a gmail account pm me. i have 9 left, so the first 9 will get the invites |
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| 02:18.51 | thgjerde | how can i list all packages depended on by a package? |
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| 02:19.09 | directhex | thgjerde, apt-cache rdepends foo |
| 02:19.50 | archonchild | anyone know how long kde will be broken in unstable? |
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| 02:20.06 | mrwill | archonchild: until someone fixes it? |
| 02:20.06 | archonchild | approx? |
| 02:20.09 | archonchild | :) |
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| 02:20.41 | toresbe | archonchild: Brokenness is rarely for long in Unstable |
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| 02:21.16 | archonchild | toresbe: thanks, good to know |
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| 02:22.06 | thgjerde | How can i view the fulle dependency tree for a package? |
| 02:23.04 | herbi | with your eyes! omg! |
| 02:23.16 | mrwill | thgjerde: if it isn't installed, you could pretend to install it, without doing so. |
| 02:24.06 | thgjerde | mrwill, how can i pretend i have nothing installed? |
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| 02:25.31 | mrwill | thgjerde: don't pretend nothing, use apt-get -s install <package> |
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| 02:25.48 | paolo | Hi guys! apparently after the last apt-get dist-upgrate (testing) the cdrom and cdrw devices doesn't exist any more. Any idea? |
| 02:26.29 | mrwill | paolo: the modules aren't in the kernel? |
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| 02:27.09 | paolo | mrwill: I didn't change the modules. What should I check? |
| 02:27.23 | mrwill | paolo: lsmod can show you the modules currently in the kernel. |
| 02:28.05 | mrwill | paolo: if the device nodes no longer exist, I think the modules is probably the problem. |
| 02:28.06 | thgjerde | mrwill, i don't want to see missing deps, i whant them all |
| 02:28.51 | mrwill | thgjerde: directhex already told you that... scroll up. |
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| 02:29.17 | paolo | mrwill: what modules could I miss? iso9660? |
| 02:29.46 | mrwill | thgjerde: apt-cache depends <package> |
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| 02:31.00 | mrwill | paolo: I don't know, but you need the modules to create the device nodes. |
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| 02:32.43 | CAiRO | is there some common email header that should be set for an automatically generated email? |
| 02:33.17 | debian | CAiRO: is automaticallyh generated email = spam? :) |
| 02:33.27 | sky0 | mrwill: you can "mknod" without any support; but it probably wouldn't work |
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| 02:33.49 | gnoite | hi |
| 02:34.00 | mrwill | sky0: yeah, then the device node would be there, all right, but with no driver. |
| 02:34.15 | mrwill | gnoite: hi |
| 02:34.19 | gnoite | having problems with mouse and x windows |
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| 02:34.34 | CAiRO | debian: no, like an automatic order confimation from an php script |
| 02:34.39 | Guerin | CAiRO: since there's no way of distinguishing automatically generated mail from manually generated mail, no. |
| 02:34.41 | gravity | gnoite: You're going to have to be more specifc than that |
| 02:35.05 | swim | my fan hasnt stopped spinning once on my laptop |
| 02:35.06 | Guerin | CAiRO: of course, YOU can put your own custom header X-Automatically-Generated in |
| 02:35.18 | gnoite | sorry, X error logs comes up with can't find /dev/psaux |
| 02:35.28 | Guerin | gnoite: use /dev/input/mice |
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| 02:35.36 | CAiRO | Guerin: that's what i'm asking.. is there some common string that most people use? |
| 02:35.43 | gnoite | tried that as well.... |
| 02:35.45 | Guerin | CAiRO: I'm not aware of one |
| 02:36.05 | gravity | gnoite: Is /dev/psaux present? |
| 02:36.10 | gravity | gnoite: Oh, modprobe psmouse |
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| 02:36.22 | gnoite | yes but not under /dev its under .dev |
| 02:36.28 | gravity | .dev? |
| 02:36.29 | Guerin | .dev? |
| 02:36.31 | gnoite | yip |
| 02:36.32 | gravity | wtf? |
| 02:36.33 | debian | CAiRO: X-I-AM-SPAM! :) |
| 02:36.33 | mrwill | gravity: right, and add 'psmouse' to /etc/modules.conf |
| 02:36.36 | debian | CAiRO: j/k :) |
| 02:36.41 | gravity | mrwill: Right, if it works |
| 02:36.51 | Guerin | debian: that would get through almost all spamfilters |
| 02:36.56 | mrwill | gravity: well, it *ought* to... |
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| 02:37.14 | debian | Guerin: TOO-HONEST Score: -5 |
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| 02:37.20 | Guerin | heh |
| 02:37.39 | Guerin | if spammasters were really clever |
| 02:38.14 | paolo | mrwill: I rebooted, but without success. What modules should I insert in order to have the cd and cdwr working? |
| 02:38.19 | pipeline | What's the dpkg key for 2.6 on woody? |
| 02:38.23 | kraig | well... i'm off |
| 02:38.31 | kraig | a pleasure to bother you guys, bye |
| 02:38.36 | Guerin | they'd put X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 \n X-Spam-Status: No \n X-Spam-Level: in their headers |
| 02:38.39 | gravity | dpkg key? |
| 02:38.40 | dpkg | gravity: are you smoking crack? |
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| 02:38.48 | gravity | Oh wow, it's back |
| 02:39.02 | Guerin | !bunk |
| 02:39.03 | dpkg | methinks bunk 2.6 is You can't run Linux 2.6 in woody without some newer packages. Get them at http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/woody/kernel-26.html or just upgrade to sarge <woody->sarge>. |
| 02:39.04 | mrwill | paolo: don't reboot -- it is almost never necessary. |
| 02:39.49 | mrwill | paolo: what are more symptoms of this problem? can you not mount disks once they are inserted? |
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| 02:40.28 | paolo | mrwill: mounting the cd or the cdwr says me: mount /cdrom/ |
| 02:40.29 | paolo | mount: special device /dev/hdb does not exist |
| 02:40.58 | mrwill | paolo: ok, then you definitely need modules. |
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| 02:41.43 | mrwill | paolo: is it too hard for you to search for debian + brand of cdrom? or kernel version + brand of cdrom? |
| 02:42.30 | paolo | mrwill: I can, but why till yesterday it worked? |
| 02:43.02 | mrwill | paolo: because you dist-upgraded and discover no longer loads them automatically? my best guess. |
| 02:43.28 | paolo | mrwill: the running discover will solve the problem? |
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| 02:44.14 | mrwill | paolo: well, if discover was run on boot and didn't find the drivers, running it again will probably have the same result. |
| 02:44.15 | paolo | mrwill: discover doesn't see the cd nor the cdrw. Do I downgrade discover? |
| 02:44.22 | bwbettin | Does anyone know of a good Password Manager that can be run in the console (I need to use it remotely over ssh)? I read about PMS in this months Linux Journal, but it doesn't appear to have any official debian packages, I figure there's an alternative I just don't know it's name. |
| 02:44.52 | gravity | paolo: Read the documentation that comes with discover in /usr/share/doc/discover. It'll tell you how to enable hardware autodetection at load |
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| 02:45.24 | gravity | paolo: If there's a NEWS.Debian file, read that. A FAQ would be good too, if it's there |
| 02:45.29 | groulder | hmm, nothing to be said about php in the topic. i'm surprised. |
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| 02:46.15 | budluva | can someone suggest a good bittorrent client? |
| 02:46.24 | mrwill | buluva: bittorrent? |
| 02:46.32 | mrwill | buluva: thought that was the client. |
| 02:46.32 | paolo | gravity: apparently the problem is that discover doesn't see the cd nor the cdrw |
| 02:46.39 | gravity | paolo: How do you know? |
| 02:46.53 | budluva | mrwill, well do you know of a better one, i dont like bittorrent |
| 02:46.57 | paolo | gravity: running discover doesn't detect them! |
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| 02:47.08 | dataw0lf | azureus |
| 02:47.10 | gravity | budluva: I hear good things about bitornado |
| 02:47.15 | mrwill | what a non sequitur |
| 02:47.33 | gravity | paolo: Does it print other hardware? |
| 02:47.56 | budluva | gravity, cool ill check it out? |
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| 02:48.49 | paolo | gravity: dram controller, pci to agp controller, usb uhci controllers, pci bridge |
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| 02:49.09 | gravity | paolo: Is it listed in lspci? |
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| 02:49.19 | paolo | gravity: ide controller, smbus controller, video card, nic |
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| 02:49.26 | sky0 | paolo: discover doesn't show my drives either; though they work fine. try looking at the boot messages (dmesg|grep 'hd.:'); does that list your drives? |
| 02:49.28 | Led_Zeppelin | how can I have crontab listing for every 1 minute? |
| 02:49.33 | gravity | paolo: I'm assuming it's an IDE drive, right? |
| 02:49.44 | Guerin | Led_Zeppelin: man crontab |
| 02:49.54 | paolo | gravity: they are ide ones, yes. |
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| 02:49.59 | usuario | is there a newer gaim version in sid? if so, how can I download it for sarge? |
| 02:50.00 | gravity | ok |
| 02:50.14 | gravity | usuario: Go to packages.debian.org and download it from there |
| 02:50.15 | paolo | gravity: lspci doesn't see the ide devices |
| 02:50.19 | Guerin | budluva: btlaunchmanycurses in the bittornado package |
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| 02:50.26 | usuario | gravity: thank you' |
| 02:50.28 | gravity | paolo: I'd try sky0's advice |
| 02:50.33 | Guerin | !tell usuario about search |
| 02:50.37 | swim | i sthere a overnet, ed2k channel? |
| 02:50.40 | findme | how do I make mp3's out of a cd, rip mp3 |
| 02:50.56 | Guerin | findme: cdparanoia + lame |
| 02:51.01 | gravity | findme: grip is nice |
| 02:51.03 | findme | Guerin, thanks. |
| 02:51.15 | findme | gravity, grip is doing only wav conversion not mp3 |
| 02:51.30 | Guerin | findme: you need lame to encode mpw, and grip can do it |
| 02:51.32 | gravity | findme: It's just a frontend. If you have lame it'll use it |
| 02:51.33 | Guerin | mp3 |
| 02:51.42 | paolo | sky0: yes, it lists them! |
| 02:51.44 | findme | gravity, ah thanks. |
| 02:51.46 | findme | Guerin, thanks |
| 02:51.49 | Guerin | findme: /msg dpkg lame |
| 02:52.04 | mrwill | paolo: so then, figure out which modules you need and put them in your kernel, like I told you before. |
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| 02:52.21 | groulder | is there a hardened-php debian package? |
| 02:52.30 | paolo | mrwill: ehmmm, how do I figure out? |
| 02:52.40 | Guerin | groulder: part of the point of hardened-php is that it's always built from source, isn't it? |
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| 02:52.51 | sabin | at some point i got to see my man pages in yelp (i think), i can't remember how i did that, so uuhh yelp me? |
| 02:52.58 | sky0 | paolo: then you do not need any modules (except for filesystem support) for the cdrom drives; are you using a default debian kernel; do you have a static /dev or devfs? |
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| 02:55.14 | paolo | sky0: The kernel is a default debian 2.6.8.1 one. For the /dev/ or devfs ... how do I check it? |
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| 02:57.05 | loke_ | what app should i use to burn an audio cd? |
| 02:57.06 | iceman | Im trying to get id3 support in cplay, I installed this required package python-id3, but still nothing.. any ideas+ |
| 02:57.17 | directhex | loke_, try k3b |
| 02:57.23 | man_in_shack | apt-listbugs keeps on timing out on me |
| 02:57.35 | mrwill | loke_: maybe grip? |
| 02:57.38 | sky0 | paolo: I would check the output of "mount"; if there is an entry like "devfs on /dev type devfs ..." you are using devfs; I personally don't, so this is a guess. |
| 02:57.44 | abrotman | mrwill: that doesn't burn |
| 02:57.48 | abrotman | loke_: what is your desktop? |
| 02:57.58 | loke_ | abrotman fluxbox |
| 02:58.02 | Guerin | iceman: I don't know if cplay supports it |
| 02:58.06 | mrwill | abrotman: oh right. |
| 02:58.17 | srbaker | anyone here use dovecot? |
| 02:58.18 | abrotman | loke_: use whatever you want .. there are lots .. apt-cache search burn CD |
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| 02:58.29 | iceman | Guerin: it's mentioned at the very end of the man-page, I also read about it in the cplay webpage |
| 02:58.32 | loke_ | abrotman do you have any recommendations? |
| 02:58.33 | usuario | does anyone know the difference between perl_5.8.4-4 (stable) vs perl_5.8.4-5 (unstable)? I need the newer version for gaim unstable |
| 02:58.40 | paolo | sky0: No, I haven't any type devfs |
| 02:58.41 | abrotman | loke_: i use eroaster |
| 02:59.00 | imka | i'm using gnome. how do i make esd to use dev/dsp1 instead of dsp? i have not dsp.conf file in /etc |
| 02:59.03 | Guerin | iceman: yeah, so I see |
| 02:59.48 | man_in_shack | is there a way to perform multiple apt-get operations with a single command? |
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| 03:00.30 | mrwill | man_in_shack: like what kind of operations? install? |
| 03:00.37 | efb | man_in_shack, apt-get install program1 program2 program3 |
| 03:00.50 | directhex | imka, you want to pass '-d /dev/dsp' to the esd executable somehow |
| 03:00.51 | sky0 | paolo: then I guess you are using static device nodes, too; it is strange, as they *shouldn't* die with a dist-upgrade (not managed by dpkg, as far as I know) |
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| 03:00.56 | mrwill | man_in_shack: so you can do same operation on more than one package at once, see. |
| 03:01.08 | man_in_shack | efb, yeah, but can i also remove packages on in the same command? |
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| 03:01.15 | mrwill | man_in_shack |
| 03:01.16 | man_in_shack | -on |
| 03:01.20 | mrwill | man_in_shack: yes |
| 03:01.30 | man_in_shack | mrwill, how? |
| 03:01.30 | imka | directhex yes, but i have no esd.conf. can i just create it with that one line? |
| 03:01.34 | Guerin | iceman: I'm just installing those python modules now, lemme check |
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| 03:01.42 | mrwill | man_in_shack: apt-get remove package1 package2 etc |
| 03:01.46 | iceman | Guerin: thanks |
| 03:01.51 | man_in_shack | .... |
| 03:02.03 | man_in_shack | mrwill, what about installing AND removing in the one command |
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| 03:02.13 | directhex | imka, in /etc/esound/esd.conf, add "spawn_options=-d /dev/dsp1" i think |
| 03:02.14 | efb | man_in_shack, i don't think you can do it |
| 03:02.18 | mrwill | man_in_shack: that I'm not so sure about |
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| 03:02.27 | sky0 | paolo: look at the /dev dir (ls -l /dev/hda* /dev/hdb*); any of these entries there? |
| 03:02.46 | mrwill | man_in_shack: couldn't you make a shell script if you needed to automate something? |
| 03:02.54 | fishhead | doesn't mean to sound like spam but www.ultimatebootcd.com it's a free bunch of testing utils put together on a cd that loads them into a ramdisk, including stuff like mprime (good way to test for cpu data loss), memtest86, disk manfacturer utils, and a mini linux distro, saves time trying to install linux only to find out you memtest is bad etc |
| 03:03.10 | imka | directhex, thanks i was looking in /etc |
| 03:03.15 | man_in_shack | efb, mrwill, thanks for not saying anything about && or ;. i'd have to whack you |
| 03:03.16 | bwbettin | Does anyone know of a good Password Manager that can be run in the console (I need to use it remotely over ssh)? I read about PMS in this months Linux Journal, but it doesn't appear to have any official debian packages, I figure there's an alternative I just don't know it's name. |
| 03:03.31 | fishhead | I mean memory is bad :P |
| 03:03.36 | directhex | imka, man esd says '/etc/esound/esd.conf' so... |
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| 03:03.48 | mrwill | man_in_shack: I said, shell script -- those operators are shell scripting syntax. |
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| 03:03.53 | paolo | sky0: it shows only the hard disks hda and hdc |