| 00:00.06 | teeks | thanks dondelelcaro :) |
| 00:00.17 | Faithful | Seann: nVidia drivers are XFREE86 modules that install using their installer ... I don't see what the problem is... it is a no brainer. |
| 00:00.19 | exobyte | so- my IBM laptop is here (but I have to wait for christmas). Any favorite (favourite for some) memory manufacturers? I tend to go with corsair, but it's $$ and I've never used their laptop memory |
| 00:00.21 | wntd | oh snap |
| 00:00.24 | florisbarthel | streuner_: Ok, thanks :) |
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| 00:00.41 | wntd | I hate it when I bork up screen |
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| 00:01.30 | cef | anyone just get a really short Debian Weekly News? |
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| 00:01.50 | Klipper | w00t!! it works!! thanks codbyte |
| 00:02.09 | streuner_ | florisbarthel: you need a working i-net connection, that's all what you need - if you have problems just ask here. |
| 00:02.23 | PerfDave | cef: Stick this in a cronjob: echo 'Shit happened' | mail -s 'Debian Weekly News' root@localhost |
| 00:02.29 | dli | my kernel version is 2.6.9Y , I didn't put --revision in make-kpkg :( |
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| 00:02.38 | dli | looks like a bug in make-kpkg |
| 00:02.45 | Klipper | 'late |
| 00:03.11 | cef | PerfDave: heh.. I'll just assume that joey has been indulging in the christmas spirit a little too much |
| 00:03.18 | soften | if you support SlayerXP for world leader, press 123 |
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| 00:03.35 | PerfDave | SlayerXP: Even if they do it in a self-conscious, postmodern ironic kind of way? |
| 00:03.48 | SlayerXP | PerfDave: especially then |
| 00:03.53 | pwn4ge | are there any application-level firewalls for linux? |
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| 00:04.03 | tech- | Hey. Im running debian unstable, with libc 2.3.2. Im trying to get sqwebmail to work, it seems that libc 2.3.2 has a bug.. Would i need another libc version or something? Read this, http://www.mail-archive.com/courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg21089.html |
| 00:04.08 | florisbarthel | streuner_: Sure thanks :) BTW, lately I've had a very odd problem. Whenever I shut of my computer, it restarts on its own accord. Even after pressing the button on the case, after a few seconds the computer would boot up again. Last time I had to pull the plug in order to keep it from booting. What could be wrong? A loose wire? |
| 00:04.22 | pwn4ge | i want to be able to block all traffic from specific programs, rather than on specific ports |
| 00:04.23 | Klipper | bye bye now |
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| 00:04.32 | PerfDave | tech-: Have you checked the BTS? |
| 00:04.38 | teeks | dondelelcaro: it has unmet dependencies. how do I get all the other packages? one by one? or is there a better method? |
| 00:04.46 | tech- | PerfDave, BTS? |
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| 00:04.52 | PerfDave | !tell tech- about bts |
| 00:04.53 | cef | pwn4ge: there is one.. trying to remember the name.. it was reviewed in Linux Journal a while ago |
| 00:05.14 | dli | what do you guys think about the sub300.com laptops? sounds cool if I can buy one with debian installed |
| 00:05.21 | dondelelcaro | teeks: just apt-get -f install; apt-get should have installed all of the packages that you needed, though... |
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| 00:05.29 | cef | pwn4ge: there is a cut-down version of it (fully functional but not as featureful) in debian afaik |
| 00:05.45 | teeks | dondelelcaro: oh :) |
| 00:05.50 | SlayerXP | tech-: you're running debian unstable, you therefore are expected to sort out your own problems. |
| 00:05.55 | dli | teeks: apt-get install tasksel; tasksel -a |
| 00:05.58 | pwn4ge | cef: whats the name? |
| 00:05.58 | teeks | dondelelcaro: but i didnt use -f |
| 00:06.27 | cef | pwn4ge: just found it - zorp |
| 00:06.31 | dli | my /usr is 3.5 GB in size, usual? |
| 00:06.47 | dondelelcaro | teeks: yes. Most likely youv'e got some other issue as well. Like unofficial xlibs packages or similar. |
| 00:06.49 | caphuso | dli: yeah |
| 00:06.52 | Faithful | Hey guys, does anyone know, that if I setup a new box (with sarge) install build-essential whether I will be able to insert the module I need, when I re-run sarge? |
| 00:07.01 | streuner_ | florisbarthel: did you change power supply? |
| 00:07.01 | Faithful | installer |
| 00:07.01 | pwn4ge | cef: thank you |
| 00:07.06 | cef | pwn4ge: uses kernel hooks to intercept data mid-stream, so not for the faint of heart |
| 00:07.09 | tech- | SlayerXP, it seems to be more like a libc bug |
| 00:07.09 | cef | pwn4ge: welcome |
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| 00:07.28 | SlayerXP | tech-: check the BTS, if you find nothing then reportbug |
| 00:07.58 | florisbarthel | streuner_: No it "just happened". First time (two days ago) was quie funny but it happened again yesterday, even after forcing shutdown with the button three times. Quite freaky |
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| 00:09.35 | streuner_ | florisbarthel: And you changed nothing? |
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| 00:09.43 | SlayerXP | still, it's 80 billion times better than 6 months ago |
| 00:09.54 | helix | SlayerXP: or gentoo! |
| 00:10.09 | cef | florisbarthel: do you have an option in the bios for what to do after the power goes off? eg: 'always on' or something like it? that can do that sort of thing |
| 00:10.19 | axi | how can i run inputrc again ? |
| 00:10.24 | dli | anyone running an Antaur CPU here? |
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| 00:10.31 | streuner_ | florisbarthel: most problems are caused when you change something, try to remember what you changed |
| 00:10.33 | SlayerXP | helix: did I tell you about a conversation I had with a gentoo chap? |
| 00:10.43 | cef | SlayerXP: must admit, amd64 ubuntu seems to work well on one of the machiens at work.. but YMMV of course.. |
| 00:10.50 | PerfDave | SlayerXP: Eww, you talk to Gentoo people? ;) |
| 00:10.56 | SlayerXP | helix: he was explaining just how much faster gentoo would run on my dual opteron when compared to debian |
| 00:10.57 | PerfDave | SlayerXP: You'll get cooties! |
| 00:11.03 | wntd | what was the command? |
| 00:11.06 | wntd | !start distro war |
| 00:11.12 | wntd | :/ |
| 00:11.12 | SlayerXP | helix: he didn't grok the "amd64" bit of "debian amd64" |
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| 00:11.25 | nvz | PerfDave: are you trying to say helix has cooties? |
| 00:11.42 | SlayerXP | cef: ubuntu is yet another pointless debian clone, it'll be dead within a year |
| 00:11.42 | PerfDave | nvz: helix is a Gentoo user? Dude, I'm never talking to her again! |
| 00:11.43 | helix | heh |
| 00:11.59 | wntd | If you don't compile it with -O3 it's so worthless christ |
| 00:12.01 | helix | PerfDave: hm, that's a strategy I hadn't thought of for fending off debian guys |
| 00:12.05 | florisbarthel | streuner_: I'm sure I didn't change anything in the bios or kernel. I guess it's just a loose wire in my case, I'll check up on it then |
| 00:12.09 | florisbarthel | Thanks guys |
| 00:12.14 | helix | "sorry, I use gentoo." |
| 00:12.16 | PerfDave | Nah, Ubuntu has managed to generate large quantities of hype by having somebody with a few bucks behind it, annoyingly. |
| 00:12.22 | teeks | dli: tasksel -a say unknown option. what is tasksel? |
| 00:12.34 | codbyte | wntd - O3 sucks stability on critical components |
| 00:13.55 | wntd | codbyte: yeah, yeah I know. I think that anybody who wants to install Gentoo must read the 'Options that control optimization' part of the GCC manual and pass a quiz on it |
| 00:14.17 | Jebediah | what program would I use to rip audio from a DVD? |
| 00:14.21 | nvz | PerfDave: phear teh h3l1x0r do you? |
| 00:14.21 | SlayerXP | gentoo users are punished adequately already |
| 00:14.30 | PerfDave | nvz: I fear her Gentoo-cooties. |
| 00:14.36 | streuner_ | Jebediah: try transcode |
| 00:14.41 | Jebediah | streuner: takk |
| 00:14.51 | nvz | PerfDave: good, thats what she hoped for I am sure |
| 00:15.02 | somiaj | I'm looking for a good hardware diag tool, any suggestions (wanting boot floppy/cd)... |
| 00:15.20 | Jebediah | somiaj: Knoppix works good for that |
| 00:15.30 | PerfDave | nvz: *shrug* I don't think helix has any reason not to want me to talk to her :( |
| 00:15.36 | PerfDave | Jebediah: Or the System Rescue CD |
| 00:15.46 | SlayerXP | anyway |
| 00:15.47 | somiaj | Jebediah: two bloated, I don't need kde crap to test if a mobo/cpu/ram/etc is bad on an unknown box |
| 00:15.48 | SlayerXP | bedtime for me |
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| 00:15.56 | SlayerXP | g'night kids. |
| 00:16.01 | Jebediah | gnite SlayerXP |
| 00:16.02 | SlayerXP | play nicely while I'm away |
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| 00:16.11 | PerfDave | nvz: I save all my horny net geek chatting up hawt Debian chick antics for Phated ;) |
| 00:16.12 | simonrvn | we always do |
| 00:16.12 | giupy | bye all |
| 00:16.41 | helix | nvz: you have to remember that PerfDave doesn't want to flirt with anyone that's not underage |
| 00:16.45 | streuner_ | simonrvn: heh, we trying our best ;-) |
| 00:16.51 | PerfDave | helix: Hey, she's legal! |
| 00:16.54 | dli | teeks: strange :( they disabled the -a option :(( |
| 00:17.00 | PerfDave | I think I'm gonna go dye what's left of my hair and palmroll my dreads instead of sleeping :) |
| 00:17.13 | helix | eh? |
| 00:17.16 | dli | teeks: I want "tasksel -a" :( |
| 00:17.24 | helix | what's left of your hair? but you have dreads? |
| 00:17.26 | giupy | i don't remember how to switch bitween 2 channels joined in bitchx |
| 00:17.27 | simonrvn | PerfDave: you have dreads? |
| 00:17.30 | PerfDave | helix: Undercut |
| 00:17.32 | nvz | helix: heh, I wasnt aware. I personally cant stand most young girls I have met |
| 00:17.37 | helix | I don't know what undercut means |
| 00:17.37 | simonrvn | PerfDave: i don't remember seeing any |
| 00:17.39 | helix | nvz: she's 17 |
| 00:17.43 | simonrvn | PerfDave: oh yeh... |
| 00:18.08 | wntd | Off the top of my head there's the GordianKnot rippack (http://sourceforge.net/projects/gordianknot), but it's Win32 only |
| 00:18.12 | dli | anyone knows why tasksel won't provide "-a" option anymore :( |
| 00:18.24 | simonrvn | because. it got ripped out |
| 00:18.30 | PerfDave | helix: Shaved round the sides and back |
| 00:18.40 | PerfDave | helix: http://www.livejournal.com/users/diffrentcolours/539957.html if you care that much ;) |
| 00:18.53 | wntd | http://meshier.com/dev/xvid/index.htm |
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| 00:19.06 | nvz | helix: thats legal in most states. but I'd rather chew tin foil than put up with a teenage girl |
| 00:19.11 | simonrvn | i have to finish my dreads. i'm almost done :). haven't had time to finish them lately :( |
| 00:19.27 | helix | oh jeez |
| 00:20.00 | PerfDave | simonrvn: I had a friend come down and do them for me the other weekend, which was cool. Just sat around watching Hellraiser flicks and drinking while she played with my hair :) |
| 00:20.01 | nvz | heh |
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| 00:20.22 | PerfDave | We clearly need a #dreadian for Debian users to swap dread tips, if there are that many of us ;) |
| 00:20.27 | nvz | Adam Duritz from the counting crows had cut his, last time I seen them at WVU |
| 00:20.28 | simonrvn | PerfDave: damn. she's nice. i gotta do it myself =) |
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| 00:20.55 | PerfDave | simonrvn: She's very nice. She is now my girlfriend ;) |
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| 00:21.18 | simonrvn | PerfDave: haha cool :) |
| 00:21.33 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | what mean debian? |
| 00:21.57 | PerfDave | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: http://www.debian.org/ |
| 00:22.00 | simonrvn | !why debian |
| 00:22.01 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
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| 00:23.29 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | debian is better than win xP? |
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| 00:23.40 | giupy | ... |
| 00:23.40 | streuner_ | yes |
| 00:23.45 | soften | debian is way better than winxp |
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| 00:23.55 | zamolxes | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: worst troll ever. stfu |
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| 00:23.57 | soften | I only use winxp for its broad software support. |
| 00:24.08 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | zamolxes fuck you |
| 00:24.12 | helix | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: watch it. |
| 00:24.22 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | what? |
| 00:24.29 | Piru | boooring |
| 00:24.32 | simonrvn | oh man... |
| 00:24.38 | helix | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: watch your language and stop trolling. thanks. :) |
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| 00:25.00 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | tell to your friend whach out |
| 00:25.03 | nvz | the teenage girls I have met always think you are that thing in life thats going to complete them, then they want you to become this thing, and if you are dumb enough to do it, they will eventually figure out it wasnt what they wanted anyhow.. I've never met a teenage girl who is just happy with what she's got and would just tell me to fuck off.. that would be sexy, but otherwise I say "hate to sound sleazy, but tease me, I dont want it if its that easy" |
| 00:25.14 | Faithful | From what I have just read I am probably better not using highpoint "hardware" raid and use linux "software" raid instead.... any comments? |
| 00:25.20 | streuner_ | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: that's a rhetoric question here... |
| 00:25.40 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | i dont know if i change my xp to debian |
| 00:25.41 | soften | linux software raid has better community support, whatever their technical merits |
| 00:26.09 | astronut | nvz: or there are the teenage girls that just want sex, nothing more |
| 00:26.32 | giupy_ | . |
| 00:26.35 | streuner_ | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: you can install debian and let XP on the same HD |
| 00:26.40 | helix | giupy_: ? |
| 00:26.46 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | oh |
| 00:26.54 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | i dont know how do it |
| 00:26.57 | PerfDave | nvz: Thing is, I could say the same about most people under the age of 30, and many people over. |
| 00:27.03 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.14 | astronut | nvz: lol, i know a few who don't care about love at all |
| 00:27.16 | giupy_ | helix :) i don't remember nothing of bitchx i try some options |
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| 00:27.18 | astronut | they just wanna get f*d |
| 00:27.40 | omnivector | hey guys. stupid question here. how do i update php to 4.3.10 if i'm not seeing it in apt-get update / apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 00:27.53 | simonrvn | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: well this is why there'd documentation, to show you how to do it |
| 00:27.57 | streuner_ | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: just get d-i (/msg dpkg d-i) and you need some free space |
| 00:27.59 | simonrvn | there's* |
| 00:28.07 | nvz | I used to be with a girl like that, and you think it would be cool, but when I had a girl who just wanted to rape me all the time, I didnt like it |
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| 00:28.17 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | ok |
| 00:28.17 | simonrvn | omnivector: you ran an update? |
| 00:28.20 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | thx man |
| 00:28.23 | nvz | its just not exciting, its like a turn off |
| 00:28.29 | helix | nvz: yeah, it sucks to be objectified and used for sex. :) |
| 00:28.36 | SlimeyPete | omnivector: if you can grab a .deb off the web, you can use dpkg to install it. Or else try dist-upgrading to testing or unstable maybe? |
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| 00:28.40 | omnivector | simonrvn: yeah i did apt-get update; apt-get -s dist-upgrade but i don't see an update to php |
| 00:28.41 | nvz | heh |
| 00:28.45 | nvz | stfu ;) |
| 00:28.50 | omnivector | and i know this update is *major* serios |
| 00:28.53 | omnivector | serious* |
| 00:28.58 | omnivector | SlimeyPete: i'm running testing |
| 00:29.00 | streuner_ | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: partion magic to make some free space and read ig (/msg dpkg ig) |
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| 00:29.27 | omnivector | SlimeyPete: is there a way to install a specific version? i don't really want 'unstable' php, i just want 4.3.10 with the security patch |
| 00:29.31 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | i got 40gb free |
| 00:29.34 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | fee |
| 00:29.42 | streuner_ | that's more than enough |
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| 00:30.06 | nvz | it was disgusting, she would hang all over me and try to just rape me constantly, didnt matter where we were, what we were doing, or if I had clothes on |
| 00:30.06 | PerfDave | Being objectified and used for sex is fun every now and again, but it's really not something to base a relationship on ;) |
| 00:30.09 | simonrvn | omnivector: then you'll have to wait, or switch mirrors |
| 00:30.28 | SlimeyPete | omnivector: only if there's a deb available in the archive for that particular version, which it would appear there isn't. Your best bet is to look for one manually on the web. |
| 00:30.40 | omnivector | simonrvn: hmm. well i'd rather use an unstable version than worry about that php forum virus going around |
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| 00:30.44 | simonrvn | nvz: ok, i think it reached the 'TMI' level =) |
| 00:31.02 | nvz | yeah TMI. ;) it was only cool about the first time then it got old and I wanted her to go away, and that took years to happen, she just thought I wanted her, and I kept telling her no, but she would keep coming back |
| 00:31.02 | simonrvn | omnivector: sarge install? |
| 00:31.22 | dondelelcaro | omnivector: the stable versions will typically have the bug fixed rather rapidly, so that's not really a valid reason... |
| 00:31.28 | omnivector | simonrvn: yeah |
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| 00:31.47 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | what site do download debian? |
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| 00:31.58 | nvz | I've met alot of crazy girls, but after the first one, I learned to just not do anything with em, cause they wont go away |
| 00:32.06 | streuner_ | !tell Lord_Jiu_Jitsu about d-i |
| 00:32.11 | RaYMaN | sagre stable ? |
| 00:32.17 | omnivector | dondelelcaro: hmm? what do you mean |
| 00:32.52 | PerfDave | RaYMaN: /msg dpkg releases |
| 00:33.16 | Jebediah | streuner: so can transcode figure out where the tracks begin and end? |
| 00:33.31 | PerfDave | Hmm, do I set up #dreadian for offtopic Debian hair conversations, or just suggest they move over to #debian-offtopic? |
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| 00:33.41 | streuner_ | Jebediah: no idea, i've heard about |
| 00:33.47 | simonrvn | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: www.debian.org, look for mirror lists, and www.debian.org/CD/ for isos |
| 00:33.58 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | i dont find link to download here . and i dont know what mean errata |
| 00:34.03 | Jebediah | streuner: Ok, I'll take a shot. DSL is being lame right now |
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| 00:34.36 | streuner_ | Jebediah: its not in debian, /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 00:35.22 | Jebediah | streuner: thanks again |
| 00:35.32 | dotCOMmie | is there an elegant way of fixing improper unmounts.. without restarting? |
| 00:35.48 | Jebediah | dotCOMmie: tried foring? |
| 00:35.54 | streuner_ | Jebediah: it exists an archive at the website of the author (transcode) - Uni Göttingen |
| 00:36.15 | streuner_ | Jebediah: i would search there for answers |
| 00:36.24 | Jebediah | streuner: I will, thanks |
| 00:36.28 | dotCOMmie | Jebediah: um no, how would I do that? |
| 00:36.53 | Jebediah | dotCOMmie: umount -f whatever |
| 00:37.04 | dotCOMmie | Jebediah: yes |
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| 00:37.30 | Jebediah | dotCOMmie: what exactly isn't that didn't umount cleanly? |
| 00:37.47 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | what is theses things [alpha] [arm] [hppa] [i386] [ia64] [m68k] [mips] [mipsel] [powerpc] [sparc] |
| 00:37.50 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | ? |
| 00:38.09 | dotCOMmie | I had problems with a usb hdd and I pulled it.. IE CP and LS froze dead, couldn't kill them |
| 00:38.12 | Jebediah | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: different architechtures that deb runs on |
| 00:38.12 | PerfDave | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: They are architectures of computer. Standard PCs are i386. |
| 00:38.16 | sphere | uhm. I currently have a raid1 array of 1 partition. can I add partitions to the array with mdadm -a to make it actually redundant |
| 00:38.23 | soften | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu, that's where you pick what kind of computer you have |
| 00:38.29 | teeks | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: types of computer chip |
| 00:38.30 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | oh |
| 00:38.31 | Jebediah | dotCOMmie: how long has it been like that? |
| 00:38.37 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | like processator? |
| 00:38.44 | streuner_ | Jebediah: sparc is UltraSparc and Sparc some Risc CPU's |
| 00:38.46 | Jebediah | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: yes |
| 00:38.49 | soften | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu, sort of like that, yes. |
| 00:38.55 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | ok |
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| 00:39.00 | RabidGoblin | hey |
| 00:39.11 | Jebediah | streuner: O, I have little access to those machines now |
| 00:39.11 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | don have P4 there |
| 00:39.20 | dotCOMmie | Jebediah: the cp was running for 3 hours (I was copying a lot of file and left) ls for a little while.. both stopped when I pulled the usb cable |
| 00:39.35 | streuner_ | Jebediah: what CPU do you have? |
| 00:39.42 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | im newb with linux . but never is too late to learn |
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| 00:39.49 | Jebediah | streuner: boring old X86. |
| 00:39.57 | dotCOMmie | Jebediah: I just want to know of a way of mounting it back because I get: mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 00:40.00 | dotCOMmie | when I mount |
| 00:40.01 | streuner_ | Jebediah: chosse i386 then |
| 00:40.12 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | this is like chinese for me |
| 00:40.25 | Jebediah | dotCOMmie: try ctrl-z, ctrl-d, ctrl-c and let it sit for a few |
| 00:40.27 | streuner_ | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: chosse i386 then |
| 00:40.37 | streuner_ | Jebediah: sorry, its late here :-) |
| 00:40.38 | PerfDave | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: Make sure you read the installation manual. |
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| 00:40.40 | dotCOMmie | Jebediah: on what? |
| 00:40.44 | Jebediah | streuner: lol, I was wondering why you told me that :P |
| 00:40.48 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | kk |
| 00:41.10 | dotCOMmie | Jebediah: CP and LS are dead.. I tried ^c ^z then but that did not help |
| 00:41.10 | codbyte | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: not to start a distro war, but maybe you should start with an easier distro, mandrake for example ? |
| 00:41.15 | Jebediah | dotCOMmie: the cp and ls You can also try rmmoding the modules in use. I'm thinking both procs are D+ |
| 00:41.36 | PerfDave | codbyte: FSVO "easier" ;) |
| 00:41.38 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | its chinese? |
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| 00:42.16 | streuner_ | codbyte: in order to run debian you need a brain, and we expect that most of the people have such part of the body :-) |
| 00:42.24 | mk7 | is there any easy way to exclude a specific letter from a specific position in a regular expression? I want to grep for 'Resource<[x]' where [x] is any letter other than b |
| 00:42.32 | codbyte | streuner: lol ;) |
| 00:42.36 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | 100mb lol |
| 00:42.41 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | i tought was light |
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| 00:43.12 | caphuso | mk7: [^b] |
| 00:43.14 | dotCOMmie | Jebediah: I guess I'll reboot then d: I was just looking for something elegant. thanks for the help |
| 00:43.32 | mk7 | caphuso: thanks |
| 00:43.40 | Jebediah | dotCOMmie: no prob, I've had that issue too... sometimes it takes a reboot, sometimes not |
| 00:43.49 | simonrvn | codbyte: mandrake is not easier |
| 00:44.08 | Jebediah | simonrvn: depends on your background |
| 00:44.30 | simonrvn | hardcore debian background |
| 00:44.58 | soften | mandrake is probably as easy as debian until you want to upgrade or update something, at which point it becomes your enemy |
| 00:45.09 | streuner_ | Jebediah: i install debian within 10 minutes, without X of course, the problem is sometimes X |
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| 00:45.23 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | what is the manual for sarge 386? |
| 00:45.31 | streuner_ | !ig |
| 00:45.31 | dpkg | ig is probably for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual; sarge: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 00:45.47 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | the guy told to i chose that one . i dont know if is the right one |
| 00:46.10 | streuner_ | http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ |
| 00:46.23 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | the sarge 386 is not there |
| 00:46.53 | streuner_ | yep, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 00:47.32 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | [i386] is the same as Intel x86 ? |
| 00:47.43 | streuner_ | http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso |
| 00:48.01 | streuner_ | es |
| 00:48.05 | streuner_ | yep |
| 00:48.30 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | thx bro |
| 00:48.55 | streuner_ | You don't need to know all details yet, just download the iso and burn it |
| 00:49.03 | Jebediah | streuner: I installed from Knoppix. The Sarge install kept on hanging on me. |
| 00:49.23 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | ok . ill burn. thx |
| 00:49.44 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | it wont format my pc and desinstal my win XP ? |
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| 00:49.59 | pngwn | heh |
| 00:50.28 | streuner_ | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: no |
| 00:50.37 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | ^^ |
| 00:50.48 | streuner_ | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: only if you tell the installer so. |
| 00:51.00 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | ok |
| 00:51.02 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | hehe |
| 00:51.10 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | i got 40gb of games here . and porn |
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| 00:51.43 | The_Vulture | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: but you have the CDs for those games, and DVDs for the porn.. right? |
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| 00:51.58 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | no. its only in HD |
| 00:52.06 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | downloaded all |
| 00:52.08 | BR_ | The_Vulture: and the DVDs for the newer games ;) |
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| 00:52.18 | The_Vulture | BR_: indeed |
| 00:52.19 | giupy__ | what do i need for install flashplayer in mozilla? |
| 00:52.23 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | i dont have a dvd burn =/ |
| 00:52.33 | The_Vulture | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu: so you are openly admitting to copyright infringement and all that? yer an idiot. |
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| 00:52.39 | BR_ | The_Vulture: tho i think he missed your point ;P |
| 00:52.43 | python | hi |
| 00:52.45 | streuner_ | giupy_: apt-cache search mozilla flashplayer? |
| 00:52.46 | The_Vulture | BR_: apparently |
| 00:52.50 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | i will test in another pc |
| 00:52.54 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | aew BR_ |
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| 00:53.00 | giupy__ | streuner, yes now i knoe thank you i have seenit |
| 00:53.55 | Lord_Jiu_Jitsu | i got the 40gb in 4 days |
| 00:53.58 | PyroPhreak | what is a program I can use for windows to put AVIs and MPGs to a DVD? |
| 00:54.14 | caphuso | PyroPhreak: probably. but we don't care |
| 00:54.21 | BR_ | bleh, I got a new set of computer speakers anm they came with a sub, and i keep kicking it ;( |
| 00:54.42 | giupy__ | what is flash-gflashplayer ? |
| 00:54.43 | PyroPhreak | caphuso: yea, I didnt think you would |
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| 00:55.47 | RaYMaN | pls give Link to download debian sagre ? |
| 00:55.58 | PerfDave | RaYMaN: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 00:56.52 | PerfDave | The_Vulture: You never know, they might be freely available games, and purchased pr0n ;) |
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| 00:57.20 | RaYMaN | PerfDave 10x .. |
| 00:57.28 | Guerin | RaYMaN: no, only once. |
| 00:57.34 | Azar | ....whatever debian sagre means |
| 00:57.38 | RaYMaN | PerfDave : CD #1 #2 #3 .. installs CD ? |
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| 00:57.54 | The_Vulture | PerfDave: well I suppose he could have purchased the pr0n over the web in a streaming format or something.. maybe. |
| 00:58.12 | PerfDave | RaYMaN: You should only want the first full CD, if you've got a decent net connection |
| 00:58.23 | mclamb | is oceans 12 any good? |
| 00:58.27 | RaYMaN | no .. net connection .. |
| 00:58.33 | RaYMaN | cd-isntall ? |
| 00:58.42 | RaYMaN | 1,2,3 ? |
| 00:58.48 | PerfDave | RaYMaN: You don't have a net connection? How are you on IRC now? |
| 00:58.57 | Azar | RaYMan I only use CD1 , basic install |
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| 00:59.02 | axi | nslookup is in which packet ? |
| 00:59.06 | PerfDave | axi: /msg dpkg search |
| 00:59.23 | mclamb | i like the 100 meg one, it comes with almost everything you need |
| 00:59.24 | RaYMaN | Azar : Full install ? |
| 00:59.25 | Azar | RaYMan then I dismiss the rest as I download all the newest packages from the site |
| 00:59.43 | Azar | RaYMan, you only need BASIC, Disk 1 for the beginning |
| 00:59.56 | Azar | RaYMan all other disks have packages but they are old |
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| 01:00.10 | RaYMaN | http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/i386/ ... |
| 01:00.13 | RaYMaN | lol .. |
| 01:00.23 | RaYMaN | 15 ? :) |
| 01:00.26 | RaYMaN | cd |
| 01:00.26 | PerfDave | RaYMaN: Why don't you read the Installation Manual and see what it has to say? |
| 01:00.49 | RaYMaN | ok |
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| 01:01.08 | smj | Greets. I installed udev on my server (which uses Linux Software RAID-1 across 4 disks) and the device for the RAID array was not created. This only makes sense, as it's not an actual device, but do I have to add the device myself or is this a bug? |
| 01:01.20 | McLamb | you think they could find a way to fit that last 28 megs on disk 14 |
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| 01:02.40 | PerfDave | !full cd advocacy |
| 01:02.40 | dpkg | [full cd advocacy] that you can download the images while using your computer for something else, but you can't use your computer while Debian is netinstalling. It takes a full desktop install down to under half an hour from a couple of hours, even on ADSL. |
| 01:02.55 | PerfDave | That will save me repeating myself in future ;) |
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| 01:03.29 | smj | Ok, I figured I'd ask about the udev here, but I'll come back later. |
| 01:04.17 | dondelelcaro | PerfDave: although, you only need to install base to start doing other things while your machine is installing. |
| 01:04.22 | caphuso | !full cd advocacy =~ s/$/ Keep in mind that mirrors are run by volunteers and pay for the bandwidth with their own money./ |
| 01:04.23 | dpkg | that doesn't contain '$', caphuso |
| 01:04.45 | caphuso | !full cd advocacy =~ s/ADSL. /ADSL. Keep in mind that mirrors are run by volunteers and pay for the bandwidth with their own money./ |
| 01:04.45 | dpkg | caphuso: that doesn't contain 'ADSL. ' |
| 01:04.54 | caphuso | damnit! |
| 01:05.01 | PerfDave | caphuso: *shrug* It saves on repeated installations, mind. And we have bittorrent ;) |
| 01:05.07 | Azar | caphuso speaking of which where I can go subscribe for voluntary contributions at Debian |
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| 01:05.36 | PerfDave | dondelelcaro: Not really anything useful though. |
| 01:05.41 | Guerin | Azar: debian.org has instructions for donating |
| 01:05.42 | directhex | i think if you're using sarge, a full cd is gonna be 600/700mb out of date |
| 01:05.55 | dondelelcaro | PerfDave: sure you can... you just install exactly whatever you want to do something useful |
| 01:05.56 | Azar | I wish I could have an apt-give application to send out my monetary thanks |
| 01:06.04 | caphuso | Azar: http://www.debian.org/donations |
| 01:06.10 | Azar | thanks Guerin, caphuso |
| 01:06.20 | PerfDave | dondelelcaro: Depends on what you mean by useful. If you can live without x, a de etc. then you know this already. |
| 01:06.32 | PerfDave | directhex: It's still usable though. |
| 01:06.42 | PerfDave | directhex: Or you can create CD images with jigdo ;) |
| 01:06.57 | ceige | Guys, all of my currently running browsers crash whenever I try to download anything. They also crash when I try to access the 'Downloads' Prefspane. Any ideas on what might be the culprit here? |
| 01:07.06 | CliffEmAll | I am attempting to install php to my sarge machine. Given that apt-cache search found no package named "php", I installed "php4". But this doesn't seem to have actually created an interpreter on my machine. Anyone familiar with these packages? |
| 01:07.22 | Azar | http://www.spi-inc.org/donations <<< :( down |
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| 01:07.28 | PerfDave | CliffEmAll: Look in /usr/share/doc/php4 ? |
| 01:07.32 | tZar | Hi, on a Debian 3.1 Sarge installation on a SATA drive, I have trouble accessing the IDE drive. fdisk -l only list only my sata partitions altough Debian detect my IDE drive. i have tried ./MAKEDEV to no avail. Does somebody had the same problem? |
| 01:07.36 | PerfDave | Azar: They clearly couldn't afford their bandwidth bills ;) |
| 01:07.44 | Azar | sad |
| 01:07.52 | Azar | I am going to find another way to pitch in |
| 01:08.02 | Guerin | CliffEmAll: if you want it to work with apache, you'll need libapache[2]-mod-php4 |
| 01:08.05 | caphuso | CliffEmAll: the php4 package is the apache module. you want php4-cgi |
| 01:08.20 | CliffEmAll | caphuso: ah, thank you |
| 01:09.01 | caphuso | Azar: an easy way is to buy a set of CDs from a company that donate some of the money back to donate |
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| 01:09.10 | caphuso | err, back to debian |
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| 01:09.55 | Azar | caphuso I did it with tuxcds but thats very little money |
| 01:09.55 | simonrvn | caphuso: good morning :P |
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| 01:10.14 | Azar | I wish I could send $50.00 twice / year |
| 01:10.15 | caphuso | Azar: then buy some old mips hardware from ebay and donate that :) |
| 01:10.23 | caphuso | simonrvn: hardly |
| 01:10.33 | Azar | caphuso nothing best that the $$ that pay the bills |
| 01:10.42 | ceige | All of my currently running browsers crash whenever I try to download anything. They also crash when I try to access the 'Downloads' Prefspane. Any ideas on what might be the culprit here? |
| 01:10.52 | caphuso | Azar: debian doesn't have that many bills |
| 01:10.57 | simonrvn | caphuso: heheh |
| 01:10.57 | ceige | However, loading images in the browser itself works fine. Just not downloading them. |
| 01:10.57 | tZar | Hi, on a Debian 3.1 Sarge installation on a SATA drive, I have trouble accessing the IDE drive. fdisk -l only list only my sata partitions altough Debian detect my IDE drive. i have tried ./MAKEDEV to no avail. Does somebody had the same problem? |
| 01:11.17 | Azar | caphuso, I would consider my donation way well worthed |
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| 01:11.49 | Azar | Debian team should not shy away from good intentions, it helps in the long run |
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| 01:12.29 | caphuso | Azar: another idea: you could pay me so that i can become a full time #debian op ;-) |
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| 01:12.54 | giupy | how can i remove a module in use....rmmod -f crash my pc |
| 01:12.54 | reagleBRKLN | which package is deb-make in? this is driving me nuts... i have dpkg and debmake installed, but no deb-make binary |
| 01:13.15 | Azar | caphuso I could pay you if I knew that it is fairly shared with other maintainers |
| 01:13.55 | PerfDave | reagleBRKLN: /msg dpkg search |
| 01:13.58 | caphuso | reagleBRKLN: run 'dpkg -L debmake' to see what the debmake package provides you with |
| 01:14.04 | Azar | you guys should have a p.o.box handy for donations, there is no shame in accepting good intended contributions |
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| 01:14.21 | PerfDave | Azar: SPI should have a Paypal tip jar ;) |
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| 01:14.40 | PerfDave | That reminds me, I need to work out how much money I can afford to give each month to chosen causes and set up standing orders with my bank |
| 01:14.44 | guestish | why do people donate servers as debian mirros? |
| 01:14.44 | reagleBRKLN | caphuso, it doesn't provide me with the deb-make bin |
| 01:14.46 | guestish | mirrors* |
| 01:15.06 | resiak | guestish: Because they like Debian, and want to (and can) support it? |
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| 01:15.19 | guestish | resiak: seems like an expensive way to do it |
| 01:15.19 | PerfDave | guestish: Normally because they're in a position where it doesn't cost them much to do so, and they want to help out Debian? |
| 01:15.29 | resiak | guestish: See what PerfDave says :) |
| 01:15.32 | guestish | heh |
| 01:15.40 | guestish | bandwidth isnt cheap last i checked |
| 01:15.43 | Azar | you mean if I have an available PC I can donate it as server for Debian? |
| 01:15.46 | PerfDave | guestish: Depends where you are. |
| 01:15.52 | guestish | i guess |
| 01:16.01 | resiak | PerfDave: s/where/who/ ? |
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| 01:16.14 | caphuso | reagleBRKLN: what makes you think that there is a deb-make binary? |
| 01:16.15 | tZarR | Hi, on a Debian 3.1 Sarge installation on a SATA drive, I have trouble accessing the IDE drive. fdisk -l only list only my sata partitions altough Debian detect my IDE drive. i have tried ./MAKEDEV to no avail. Does somebody had the same problem? |
| 01:16.22 | PerfDave | I mean, if you're a University admin and have stupid bandwidth and big bills anyway, dedicating a few hundred gigs to a Debian mirror isn't going to drive up your total costs much. And if you use Debian internally then it may even lower them ;) |
| 01:16.39 | jetscreamer | hey how do i specify a swap FILE in fstab... what do i use in place of /dev/hdxx ... a path? eg /swap/swapfile ? |
| 01:16.39 | resiak | PerfDave: c.f. mirror.ox.ac.uk ? :) |
| 01:16.44 | reagleBRKLN | i always used it in the past (I think!!) and that's what the docs say e.g., http://www.inf.bme.hu/~pts/pts-debian-package-tutorial.txt |
| 01:16.49 | resiak | jetscreamer: Yes. |
| 01:16.57 | jetscreamer | ah ok thanks |
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| 01:17.02 | reagleBRKLN | when i untar a ball, how do i create the debian directory? |
| 01:17.09 | resiak | jetscreamer: Remember, everything is a file. |
| 01:17.24 | PerfDave | resiak: Amongst others, yeah |
| 01:17.26 | simonrvn | some are just special |
| 01:17.33 | jetscreamer | so not /dev/hda1/swap/swapfile but /swap/swapfile eh ? |
| 01:17.43 | simonrvn | yes |
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| 01:17.49 | jetscreamer | k thanks again |
| 01:17.51 | caphuso | * Removed deb-make, related skeleton files and manpage, if you feel nostalgic, download the source and rebuild the package using DEPRECATED=no in debian/rules. |
| 01:18.02 | resiak | jetscreamer: Of course, the partition that /swap/swapfile is on has to be mounted before your swap can be brought up. |
| 01:18.07 | luctor | how can I tell what prosess is "killing " |
| 01:18.10 | caphuso | that's in the debmake changelog |
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| 01:18.39 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.44 | simonrvn | heh, "if you feel nostalgic" |
| 01:18.47 | Azar | oh... so regular users cannot participate with servers... only UNI because they are tax exempt? |
| 01:19.02 | reagleBRKLN | yes, but no indication of what to use instead |
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| 01:19.08 | simonrvn | no one said that |
| 01:19.10 | peterS | caphuso: debmake itself should have been retired a long time ago (: |
| 01:19.13 | caphuso | Azar: no. but regular users generally tend to not have that kind of money available |
| 01:19.15 | jetscreamer | how do you see what swap is active? like mount for swap. |
| 01:19.33 | simonrvn | cat /proc/swaps |
| 01:19.39 | Azar | caphuso, I got you now: a $200.00/month bandwidth pay |
| 01:19.44 | reagleBRKLN | perhaps dh-make |
| 01:19.48 | caphuso | jetscreamer: swapon -s |
| 01:19.50 | jetscreamer | coool |
| 01:19.51 | simonrvn | or df in highly verbose mode |
| 01:20.19 | resiak | Azar: You could mirror debian, but your mirror would be fairly useless without the appropriate bandwidth. However, if you have _loads_ of computers on a LAN, then running a mirror for internal use might make sense, for example. |
| 01:20.39 | Azar | resiak, I see |
| 01:20.43 | PerfDave | Seeding the CD image torrents is probably useful even on a home DSL connection. |
| 01:20.52 | jetscreamer | now to test the automatic |
| 01:20.57 | PerfDave | Not that I have the combination of diskspace and uptime to do that. |
| 01:21.29 | resiak | PerfDave: ...but probably only those of woody, until hell freezes over. |
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| 01:22.27 | PerfDave | resiak: Nah, all we need is for cdimage.debian.org to provide RSS feeds of the Sarge torrents, which seeders can check daily and download the new images when they're released ;) |
| 01:22.45 | tZarR | Guys, I can't access in any way my IDE drive(ntfs). I mean i can't even fdisk /dev/hda it. I am running out of idea here. |
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| 01:23.12 | PerfDave | tZarR: You can't access the drive, or the NTFS partition on the drive? I'm assuming the former. |
| 01:23.22 | nyktovus | Is there a good easy program like dvdShrink for debian? |
| 01:23.23 | resiak | PerfDave: Heh. Actually, an RSS feed of the Sarge apt sources might be handy. Then again, thinking about it, it'd be easier to just run apt-get update in a cron job... |
| 01:23.24 | tZarR | PerfDave ; no, the drive |
| 01:23.36 | PerfDave | nyktovus: What does dvdshrink do? |
| 01:24.00 | nyktovus | dvd backup, for making dual layer dvd's fit on a blank dvd+-R |
| 01:24.02 | PerfDave | resiak: Of course, what we actually need is to have apt-over-bittorrent fully implemented, so we can all share our /var/cache/apt/archives ;) |
| 01:24.16 | PerfDave | nyktovus: apt-cache search dvd backup ;0 |
| 01:24.29 | resiak | PerfDave: "fully implemented" - it exists at all? /me -> elgoog... |
| 01:24.42 | tZarR | fdisk /dev/hda gives me : Unable to open /dev/hda my /dev/hd* are missing except of the c and (cdrom and dvdrom) |
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| 01:24.59 | PerfDave | resiak: Somebody here mentioned that there was an experimental port of apt which supports it, but no mirrors do so it's pointless ;) |
| 01:25.01 | Azar | I FOUND THE FIX FOR THE STARTX BUG!!! |
| 01:25.03 | tZarR | ./MAKEDEV does do nothing |
| 01:25.05 | PerfDave | tZarR: Anything in dmesg about it spotting the drive and assigning to a device? |
| 01:25.17 | Azar | because there is no bug |
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| 01:25.21 | tZarR | PerfDave : yes and its /dev/hda |
| 01:25.23 | Guerin | noshit |
| 01:25.25 | PerfDave | Azar: There is no medal |
| 01:25.36 | Azar | :) PerfDave figure of speech |
| 01:25.40 | Guerin | a phantom pebcak bug, who'd have thought |
| 01:25.42 | Azar | for a newbie like me it means a lot |
| 01:25.45 | resiak | Azar: This is not the lack of bug you are looking for. |
| 01:25.47 | PerfDave | tZarR: So dmesg says that it's found your drive and assigned it to /dev/hda, and /dev/hda doesn't exist? |
| 01:26.02 | Faithful | is shorewall the best way to go to cofigure a box as a firewall? |
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| 01:26.12 | tZarR | PerfDAve : absolutely right |
| 01:26.15 | PerfDave | Faithful: Define "best". |
| 01:26.22 | PerfDave | tZarR: That sounds fucked. How are you booting at all? |
| 01:26.40 | PerfDave | Faithful: Personally, I think understanding how firewalls work and doing everything by hand with iptables is the way to go. |
| 01:26.50 | Azar | ok so let me put it like this: I do not need to type startx in console after I have F2 temporarily suspend the X, and got console, I only need to use the X F7 key to return |
| 01:26.52 | PerfDave | Faithful: The documentation at http://www.netfilter.org/ is pretty good |
| 01:26.53 | Azar | case solved |
| 01:26.54 | tZarR | as i said earlier, all debian is on my sata drive wich is on /dev/sda |
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| 01:27.26 | marccd | Can I mount a local nfs share? meaning a loopback? |
| 01:27.28 | PerfDave | tZarR: Doesn't SATA stuff remap all IDE devices to /dev/sd*? Is there anything else in dmesg about this? |
| 01:27.37 | Azar | so: no more Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, F2 instead ; no more startx thereafter, F7 instead. |
| 01:27.45 | tZarR | PerfDave : dunno, let me check |
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| 01:28.20 | marccd | say im 192.168.1.110 and I have /var 192.168.1.*(rw) on my /etc/exports, can I do mount 192.168.1.110:/var /mnt/netloop/var ? (On the 192.168.1.110 machine) kinda like a loop |
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| 01:28.39 | |QuaD| | anyone know of an xml viewer? |
| 01:28.42 | directhex | marccd, yes, you can nfs mount locally |
| 01:28.44 | |QuaD| | for gtk |
| 01:28.47 | PerfDave | marccd: Have you tried it? |
| 01:28.51 | PerfDave | |QuaD|: Mozilla? |
| 01:28.52 | Guerin | |QuaD|: less |
| 01:29.05 | |QuaD| | hehe.... any EASIER ways of viewing it |
| 01:29.06 | |QuaD| | then less |
| 01:29.12 | marccd | PerfDave, yeah, I get a mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refuse |
| 01:29.12 | directhex | more |
| 01:29.15 | PerfDave | What's hard about less? |
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| 01:29.24 | |QuaD| | its a huge file |
| 01:29.30 | PerfDave | |QuaD|: Pageup and pagedown ;) |
| 01:29.31 | weehk | hi, i uninstall exim4 |
| 01:29.33 | directhex | actually msie is GREAT as an xml viewer... |
| 01:29.44 | weehk | but still exist in /etc/init.d/exim4 |
| 01:29.44 | PerfDave | weehk: That was probably a mistake |
| 01:29.54 | resiak | |QuaD|: Seriously, what do you want that Moz or less do not provide? |
| 01:29.54 | Guerin | marccd: do the nfs howto on tldp.org - this error is covered explicitly in the troubleshooting section |
| 01:30.08 | resiak | directhex: Get _out_. _Now_. Etc. |
| 01:30.10 | PerfDave | weehk: Did you --purge it? |
| 01:30.13 | weehk | can i know how to completely remove all traces of exim4? |
| 01:30.16 | |QuaD| | resiak: its about 2000 lines... i want it to break it up into easier reading |
| 01:30.17 | tZarR | PerfDave, doesn't say anything about that in the dmesg |
| 01:30.19 | weehk | yes |
| 01:30.20 | Guerin | |QuaD|: emacs or vi[m] will do syntax highlighting, too. |
| 01:30.22 | |QuaD| | like spreadsheet/database like |
| 01:30.29 | Guerin | |QuaD|: ?? |
| 01:30.32 | PerfDave | weehk: What did you install in its place? |
| 01:30.38 | |QuaD| | ? |
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| 01:30.43 | weehk | apt-get remove --purge exim4 |
| 01:30.44 | PerfDave | tZarR: hmm, I'm stumped then. Sorry, I don't use SATA. |
| 01:30.48 | resiak | |QuaD|: ! |
| 01:30.50 | marccd | Guerin, its not a permission denied, its a connection refused |
| 01:30.57 | Guerin | marccd: I can read. |
| 01:30.57 | tZarR | PerfDave, thanks anyway :) |
| 01:31.09 | weehk | PerfDave: it comes installed default |
| 01:31.13 | PerfDave | weehk: Which MTA you install in its place? |
| 01:31.13 | tZarR | anyone have some trouble accessing IDE drives from SATA only installation^ |
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| 01:31.25 | Guerin | marccd: also /msg dpkg connection refused |
| 01:31.27 | PerfDave | tZarR: Try asking #debian-boot if this is a Sarge installation issue? |
| 01:31.34 | tZarR | thx |
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| 01:31.39 | weehk | PerfDave: i wanted to install postfix |
| 01:31.40 | Jebediah | streuner: transcode is in sarge |
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| 01:31.47 | PerfDave | weehk: apt-get install postfix |
| 01:31.53 | mage | which one of these is current? /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType |
| 01:31.59 | directhex | tZarR, what kernel are you running? |
| 01:32.13 | Guerin | !htfswk mage |
| 01:32.14 | dpkg | mage: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 01:32.18 | weehk | PerfDave: do i just ignore the exim4 script in /etc/init.d? |
| 01:32.20 | marccd | Guerin, ok |
| 01:32.21 | Guerin | !vagueness |
| 01:32.21 | dpkg | VAGUENESS KILLS! |
| 01:32.31 | resiak | dpkg: welcome back! |
| 01:32.31 | dpkg | it's good to be home :) |
| 01:32.39 | PerfDave | weehk: If you install postfix, it will remove exim |
| 01:32.44 | tZarR | directhex : 2.6.8 |
| 01:32.52 | weehk | PerfDave: i followed a web tutorial, saying exim4 has to be remove |
| 01:33.00 | PerfDave | weehk: If you install postfix, it will remove exim |
| 01:33.04 | PerfDave | weehk: apt-get install postfix |
| 01:33.07 | weehk | PerfDave: really? thanks, that will solve my problem |
| 01:33.09 | mage | hmm |
| 01:33.11 | PerfDave | weehk: Though god knows why you want to. |
| 01:33.13 | marccd | Guerin, what am I supposed to be running, I have portmap, nfs-common and nfs-user-server started already.. |
| 01:33.34 | weehk | PerfDave: why?? exim4 is easier to administer?? |
| 01:33.42 | Guerin | marccd: did you read that howto yet? |
| 01:33.45 | Mo666 | has anyone around here successfully compiled psybnc? |
| 01:33.50 | PerfDave | weehk: You want to remove exim becuase it's easier to administer? |
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| 01:33.59 | resiak | |QuaD|: Woah, I apologise: I didn't realise that mozilla didn't do pretty-printing of XML. |
| 01:34.00 | PerfDave | weehk: You strange person you :) |
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| 01:34.03 | marccd | Guerin, ... |
| 01:34.09 | resiak | Guerin: I think that that would be a good idea. |
| 01:34.15 | michal_ | hi.. what deb package would crt1.o be in? |
| 01:34.17 | PerfDave | Mozilla does pretty printing of XML whenever I've seen it. |
| 01:34.26 | weehk | PerfDave: cause i wanted to try out postfix :) |
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| 01:34.32 | resiak | PerfDave: Hmm. I'll try again... |
| 01:34.34 | Guerin | marccd: honestly, the answers you seek are there. Why do you want US to wipe your arse for you? |
| 01:34.35 | PerfDave | weehk: *shrug* fair enough. |
| 01:34.39 | marccd | Guerin, rpcinfo -p displays fine |
| 01:34.41 | PerfDave | michal_: /msg dpkg search |
| 01:34.41 | Mo666 | michal_, there's a search for that on http://packages.debian.org |
| 01:35.00 | weehk | PerfDave: you have got a good tutorial to point me to? to use postfix? |
| 01:35.10 | PerfDave | weehk: No, I don't use postfix. |
| 01:35.14 | ArkAoss | because guerin, we heard you had a case of triple ply quilted |
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| 01:35.23 | id10t | 'lo all |
| 01:35.36 | PerfDave | weehk: I've never had any reason to switch from exim, which does what I want without any hassle. |
| 01:35.41 | Guerin | resiak: I'm thinking that, too. I'm glad none of my lusers are running phpbb |
| 01:35.49 | AciD | do you guys use frame buffer ? and if yes, do you have a 'normal' display of your virtual screens ? |
| 01:35.50 | Mo666 | weehk, there's a postfix channel and dozens of great docs on http://www.postfix.org |
| 01:35.56 | PerfDave | phpbb sucks the wang of satan |
| 01:36.00 | PerfDave | And not in a good way \m/ |
| 01:36.06 | |QuaD| | resiak: so do you have any suggestions? |
| 01:36.07 | michal_ | thanks.. i thought i had libc6-dev installed |
| 01:36.11 | Guerin | ArkAoss: you heard wrong. All I have is 60-grain sandpaper |
| 01:36.24 | PerfDave | michal_: What are you trying to do that requires libc6-dev? |
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| 01:36.39 | michal_ | PerfDave: configure/compile |
| 01:36.41 | Mo666 | Guerin, isn't it sufficient to just have the latest php version on your server? |
| 01:36.51 | PerfDave | michal_: Configure/compile *what*? |
| 01:36.58 | michal_ | perf: ngspice |
| 01:37.07 | PerfDave | michal_: Is that not packaged for Debian? |
| 01:37.09 | weehk | Mo666: thanks |
| 01:37.10 | id10t | anyone else here play ET in Debian with a nVidia card? i'm having a weird et-only problem |
| 01:37.13 | Guerin | Mo666: that helps me today; doesn't help me tomorrow when the next exploit surfaces. |
| 01:37.15 | michal_ | PerfDave, apparently not |
| 01:37.20 | PerfDave | id10t: What problem? |
| 01:37.26 | PerfDave | michal_: /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 01:37.29 | resiak | |QuaD|: Actually, on second lookings, firefox does pretty-printing of XML; it allows you to fold tags, which should allow you to read your documents. |
| 01:37.30 | Mo666 | Guerin, yep |
| 01:37.45 | weehk | PerfDave: sorry i mean to use exim4 |
| 01:37.46 | marccd | Guerin, i read most of it, do I need to add my clients to etc/hosts.allow? |
| 01:37.46 | directhex | id10t, i've run it, can't say i've played it, i can never tell which team is which |
| 01:37.49 | PerfDave | michal_: It could also be that libc6-dev puts the file somewhere where ./configure isn't looking for it, you may have to pass some --option to the configure. |
| 01:37.50 | |QuaD| | resiak: how |
| 01:37.53 | weehk | PerfDave: not postfix |
| 01:37.59 | michal_ | PerfDave, i won't be putting it in /usr/local .. there are diff and dsc files for building a deb |
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| 01:38.03 | Guerin | marccd: depends how your /etc/hosts.deny is set up |
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| 01:38.10 | id10t | PerfDave well, sometimes i try to join a server and get a weird disconnect/reconnect error. then after that, if i start ET, it seems like some pk3 files i've downloaded are "corrupt" 'cause et won't start. remove any newly dowloaded files, and et starts/plays fine |
| 01:38.19 | PerfDave | michal_: You've read the APT HOWTO on this? |
| 01:38.26 | id10t | needless to say, it makes playing new maps a royal pain... |
| 01:38.27 | marccd | Guerin, nothing is setup there |
| 01:38.29 | resiak | |QuaD|: Just open the file. It needs an <?xml foo bar baz ?> tag at the start, but if it doesn't have one, it's not XML... |
| 01:38.33 | marccd | Guerin, all commented out |
| 01:38.43 | michal_ | PerfDave, i can't recall if I have but I do know how to use dpkg-buildpackage |
| 01:38.45 | marccd | Guerin, as well as .allow, all commented |
| 01:38.45 | Mo666 | i'm trying to compile psybnc, but it doesn't seem to like the path scheme of openssl on debian. did anyone over ever get around this? |
| 01:38.49 | FITH | id10t: ET has a habit of crashing on new map downloads... but I haven't heard of exactly what you're talking about... |
| 01:39.03 | PerfDave | Mo666: /msg dpkg usrlocal |
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| 01:39.07 | id10t | FITH don't feel bad.. neither has google :) |
| 01:39.12 | FITH | id10t: you might try downloading the maps from the server (if they have them available through ftp: or http: |
| 01:39.16 | PerfDave | id10t: Strange, I've never had a problem like that on startup. Sometimes a download will get corrupted, I don't think it's an ET bug though. |
| 01:39.17 | |QuaD| | resiak: starts wtih: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> but doesn't pretty print |
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| 01:39.24 | FITH | that's usually what we tell people with our server |
| 01:39.25 | PerfDave | id10t: It's only affected me when connecting to a server. |
| 01:39.36 | Guerin | marccd: then I believe all hosts are allowed. RTFM to confirm. |
| 01:39.40 | id10t | right,a nd you get a checksum mismatch |
| 01:39.49 | PerfDave | id10t: Yes |
| 01:39.50 | resiak | |QuaD|: Is it valid XML? I just investigated my .gaim/accounts.xml and that pretty-prints just fine. |
| 01:39.55 | marccd | Guerin, then how can I be having a connection refused.. |
| 01:40.04 | Guerin | !connection refused |
| 01:40.05 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
| 01:40.08 | id10t | mine is just causing et to crash, with a gl renderer error |
| 01:40.18 | FITH | id10t: also, PB screws up from time to time, and kicks people for MD5 mismatches when they don't exist |
| 01:40.20 | |QuaD| | resiak: i assume so... problem is there are no newlines (i got this as output from a server) |
| 01:40.27 | PerfDave | id10t: I've not had that problem. |
| 01:40.27 | Guerin | marccd: I told you to fucking read that â already |
| 01:40.35 | Mo666 | PerfDave, that's agood hint in gerneral, but I don't get how this helps me with my problem..? |
| 01:40.36 | id10t | FITH no, this never even gets to load the game to start pb |
| 01:40.42 | marccd | Guerin, fuck you bitch |
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| 01:40.47 | FITH | id10t: Hmm. Doh, haven't had that one, sorry :-/ |
| 01:40.52 | id10t | PerfDave any other suggestions on where to look? google was less than helpful... |
| 01:41.08 | Guerin | marccd: if you're unwilling to help yourself, expect to be insulted, imbecile. |
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| 01:41.34 | Guerin | marccd: what part of ALWAYS MEANS ONE OF THESE TWO THINGS is unclear to you? |
| 01:41.36 | PerfDave | Mo666: You can probably pass some parameter to ./configure to tell it where to look for the SSL libs. |
| 01:41.52 | resiak | |QuaD|: Aah. Of course, a temporary expedient is ` perl -pe 's/>/>\n/g' <old.xml >new.xml `, which will at least make it more readable in less. |
| 01:41.57 | PerfDave | id10t: Afraid not. I don't think it's a Debian bug or an nVidia bug, I think it's Just One Of Those Things. |
| 01:42.05 | marccd | Guerin, I am helping myself, idiot, I read the freaking manual,. I checked with rpcinfo -p. everything is running, the problem is that we have anti social fuckers like you that idle on irc for who knows what reason and dont help. |
| 01:42.09 | PerfDave | FITH: You run an ET server? |
| 01:42.16 | Mo666 | PerfDave, thanks, but it uses "make menuconfig", an ncurses-based configuration, not a configure script |
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| 01:42.21 | marccd | and i read the fucking manual |
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| 01:42.29 | |QuaD| | resiak: i considered that.... maybe i should do that |
| 01:42.31 | ArkAoss | I recompiled a kernel for my server box which simply added usb support (i hope) to ver 2.2.20, and i was following some kernel howto, but it seems to be for either 2.4 or 2.6, and i'm about to check to see why mkinitrd for my new kernel compile isn't working.. (but if someone has a slightly mocking, yet helpfull point, I'd appreciate it) |
| 01:42.34 | id10t | PerfDave argh. and to think i've been stubborn enough to be windows free since '97... and still playin games :) |
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| 01:42.45 | FITH | PerfDave: Yeah, whosgaming.com, 64 players, ShrubMod... |
| 01:42.48 | PerfDave | id10t: Do you know that this is even a Linux-only problem? |
| 01:42.50 | dondelelcaro | marccd: the issue is fairly straightforward. Something is rejecting the SYN packet. Figure out what is doing that, and you'll have solved your problem. |
| 01:42.52 | marccd | and I dont know where the problem is, and you dont even point me to the right section where the answer is.. nothing in the troubleshooting has to do with my probkem |
| 01:42.57 | resiak | |QuaD|: Might be worth running it through an XML parser to check that it does actually parse. |
| 01:43.03 | PerfDave | FITH: Do you have any way of finding out or any stats for what %age of ET players are playing on Linux? |
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| 01:43.10 | Guerin | marccd: You clearly haven't gone through the excellent and well-written howto I initially pointed you to, becaue if you had, it'd be working. I guarantee if you do that howto from start to finish, exactly as it is detailed, without skipping anything, your nfs rig will work. |
| 01:43.14 | dondelelcaro | marccd: an nmap -sS -p fooport foohost; will make it explicit. |
| 01:43.17 | marccd | dondelelcaro, nobody, I mean nothing is rejecting packets |
| 01:43.18 | |QuaD| | resiak: xml parser? |
| 01:43.23 | dondelelcaro | marccd: obviously not. |
| 01:43.25 | PerfDave | Mo666: Hmm, I expect that that writes to a configuration file which you can edit between "make menuconfig" and "make" |
| 01:43.44 | FITH | PerfDave: nothing better then asking folks... I haven't found anything in the CLIENTINFO strings that can tell apart linux from Winders |
| 01:43.44 | |QuaD| | resiak: 16000 lines :) |
| 01:43.45 | marccd | dondelelcaro, whatds the nfs port? 2049? |
| 01:43.55 | Guerin | marccd: /etc/services |
| 01:44.05 | id10t | PerfDave no, but since linux is all i use, it may as well be. also, i don't think win32 dies with errors about X11 errors and GL subsystems :) |
| 01:44.17 | marccd | Guerin, cat /etc/services |grep -i nfs (Nothing..) |
| 01:44.21 | PerfDave | id10t: No, normally win32 dies with no errors at all ;) |
| 01:44.22 | id10t | marccd that or 2048, can't remember |
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| 01:44.26 | dondelelcaro | marccd: NFS doesn't use a port. That's what portmap is for |
| 01:44.31 | id10t | PerfDave yup. |
| 01:44.41 | PerfDave | FITH: Fair enough. Asking folks is more prone to bias than checking server logs, but if the server logs can't tell then I guess that's not an option :) |
| 01:44.46 | marccd | dondelelcaro, how cant it not use a port? |
| 01:44.46 | Guerin | marccd: don't blaame me for your bad grep string. |
| 01:44.51 | Guerin | ... |
| 01:44.58 | marccd | portmapper is 111 |
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| 01:45.02 | dondelelcaro | marccd: it doesn't have a specific port that it binds to. This is the whole point of portmap. |
| 01:45.05 | FITH | PerfDave: Yeah... I'd rather have server-side logs then heresay anyday :) |
| 01:45.18 | marccd | dondelelcaro, then what am I supposed to be scanning? |
| 01:45.21 | resiak | |QuaD|: That's why you don't want to check that it's valid by hand :) |
| 01:45.35 | PerfDave | FITH: I mean, pretty much 90% of the ET players I know personally are Linux users, but I know them because they're Linux users, not because they're ET players ;) |
| 01:45.45 | Covener | marccd: rpcinfo will tell you where nfs is listening, right? |
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| 01:45.58 | |QuaD| | resiak: reccomend any parsers to check it? |
| 01:46.04 | marccd | Covener, ok |
| 01:46.08 | resiak | |QuaD|: apt-get install rxp; man rxp; rxp -V xmlFile.xml; |
| 01:46.19 | resiak | |QuaD|: I just found that one with apt-cache search xml parser |
| 01:46.31 | FITH | PerfDave: hehe, yeah, I hear ya... I think about 10% - 15% on our server play under linux (I know I do :) brb |
| 01:46.32 | nvz | oh well, I might as well go to bed, I've been sleeping here for who knows how long |
| 01:46.36 | Mo666 | PerfDave, that's right, there's a config.h which it writes to. it seems like the default openssl path it uses is "/usr/lib/ssl/". what would i set that to? "/usr/lib/ssl"? |
| 01:46.38 | marccd | Covener, 761 & 763 for nfs, 761 is closed, 763 open |
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| 01:46.42 | |QuaD| | resiak: thanks :) |
| 01:46.46 | resiak | |QuaD|: I've only skimmed the manpage, but it looks like it could sort out linebreaks and such for you if you wanted it to. |
| 01:46.54 | marccd | 761 is udp, nevermind |
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| 01:47.12 | PerfDave | Mo666: Use "dpkg -l" to find where the openssl dev package puts its files? |
| 01:47.28 | marccd | why is it rejecting my conections if portmap 111 is open, as is 763 nfs.. and mountd 762 also ? |
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| 01:47.54 | dondelelcaro | marccd: now, from outside the machine, what happens when you nmap -sS -p 111,763 foohost? |
| 01:48.44 | ArkAoss | ok.... what's another way to get an initrd image made up for the kernel I recompiled? |
| 01:48.44 | marccd | dondelelcaro, I dont have another unix machine in this network plugged in right now... and from outside (meanign, the internet, nfs/portmap is of course blocked) |
| 01:48.47 | Mo666 | PerfDave, i did that, it puts some to "/usr/lib/ssl/", and the binary to "/usr/bin". i just don't know what it expects in that directory it points to, libraries or a binary... |
| 01:49.08 | dondelelcaro | marccd: then which machine are you using to mount this NFS share? |
| 01:49.09 | marccd | dondelelcaro, thats why I wanted to try the loopback.. I could plugin another workstation, but it will take some work (physical work) |
| 01:49.19 | marccd | dondelelcaro, the same.. server.. as I said its aloopback |
| 01:49.28 | PerfDave | Mo666: Is it looking for pre-compiled libraries, or for header files to compile against? |
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| 01:49.47 | Mo666 | PerfDave, i would *guess* the latter |
| 01:49.59 | Covener | marccd: make sure you're talking over the same ip/interface when you're doing your network testing as you are during the mount |
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| 01:50.20 | marccd | Covener, what? |
| 01:50.25 | dondelelcaro | marccd: then check with nmap, and make sure that netstat -plunt; reports the nfs kernel daemon bound to the proper port. |
| 01:50.28 | marccd | Covener, I have only one network interface |
| 01:50.56 | Covener | marccd: thought there was a chance lo might confuse things |
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| 01:51.15 | marccd | dondelelcaro, everything is bound to 0.0.0.0 / 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:51.29 | marccd | mount: 127.0.0.1:/var/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied, now I get a permission denied, thats better |
| 01:51.58 | Covener | marccd: is an ip w/ a wildcard kosher? |
| 01:51.59 | dondelelcaro | marccd: now fix your /etc/exports |
| 01:52.03 | Mo666 | PerfDave, i guess my fault is that i'm lacking the openssl *dev* files. but i couldn't spot such a package in the repository, only came up with "openssl" |
| 01:52.17 | PerfDave | Mo666: Then you've installed libssl-dev or similar, yes? That puts its files in /usr/include/openssl/ according to p.d.o |
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| 01:52.24 | Covener | marccd: i knows hosts w/ wildcards are and network/mask is ok as well, but not sure about the format you pasted |
| 01:52.29 | marccd | Covener, yeah. 192.168.1.*. now Ill add 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:52.36 | CliffEmAll | I have apache setup using the standard configuration from the testing package, which includes the mod_userdir module. But when I create an index.html file in /home/user/public_html and try to access http://server/~user/ I get an access denied message. |
| 01:52.36 | PerfDave | Mo666: apt-cache search ssl dev ;) |
| 01:53.01 | ArkAoss | (see the way IRC really works is you ask a question with the information you have.. and people mock you with information that you can use to search google to get the exact fix to your problem, because tho every informtaion is google available... sometimes your not searching for what you really want |
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| 01:53.06 | CliffEmAll | If I am reading the httpd.conf file correctly, it should be setup readonly, which shouldn't prevent me from reading the file, I presume |
| 01:53.27 | marccd | dondelelcaro, Covener: thanks |
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| 01:53.44 | PerfDave | CliffEmAll: Is the public_html directory executable by the www user, and the index.html file readable by the index.html file? |
| 01:53.48 | marccd | now I need to add rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd to my init |
| 01:53.53 | PerfDave | CliffEmAll: Is there anything in /var/log/apache/error.log ? |
| 01:53.55 | Mo666 | PerfDave, i was missing libssl-dev as i was looking for "openssl". thank you |
| 01:54.02 | PerfDave | Mo666: No worries :) |
| 01:54.14 | PerfDave | Mo666: That caught me out at first, so I widened the search :) |
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| 01:55.00 | ArkAoss | initrd tools is the package i need... thanks for all your help everyone!! |
| 01:55.08 | ArkAoss | *guinness' all around |
| 01:55.16 | Strife | w00t! |
| 01:55.31 | Mo666 | PerfDave, thinking twice obviously needs training on my side ;) |
| 01:55.53 | PerfDave | Mo666: I just assumed that the ssl dev file *had* to exist somewhere, because it would be bloody odd if they didn't ;0 |
| 01:56.14 | CliffEmAll | PerfDave: access failed because search permissions are missing on a component of the path |
| 01:56.22 | resiak | !beer ArkAoss |
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| 01:56.24 | Mo666 | that came to my mind, too |
| 01:56.35 | PerfDave | CliffEmAll: Is that the error message? Does that give you enough information to solve the problem? |
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| 01:56.50 | CliffEmAll | PerfDave: does this mean my home directory needs to be readable by other users on the system ? |
| 01:56.58 | marccd | btw, does windows support nfs? |
| 01:57.05 | PerfDave | CliffEmAll: It shouldn't do. It needs to be publically executable IIRC |
| 01:57.07 | wuming | going to upgrade the CPU, should I go to P4 2.4G or Celeron-D 2.8G |
| 01:57.44 | CliffEmAll | PerfDave: the entire home directory? |
| 01:57.47 | directhex | wuming, the p4 |
| 01:57.58 | PerfDave | CliffEmAll: What do you mean, the entire home directory? |
| 01:58.02 | hettar | How can I make the kernel re-read the partion information for a memory card reader without cating the partion device ? |
| 01:58.09 | PerfDave | CliffEmAll: /home/$user/ and /home/$user/public_html need to be executable by www-data (which probably means "publically executable") and the files in public_html need to be readable by www-data (which normally means "publically readable") |
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| 01:58.27 | caphuso | hettar: try sfdisk -R |
| 01:58.29 | CliffEmAll | PerfDave: ok, thanks |
| 01:58.54 | PerfDave | CliffEmAll: If a directory is publically executable, it doesn't mean that the files in it can be read. |
| 01:58.57 | ArkAoss | P4 take the P4!!!! |
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| 01:59.13 | Mo666 | PerfDave, that just made my day...or night, rather. finally a good bouncer. |
| 01:59.20 | hettar | caphuso: Thanks just what I was looking for. |
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| 01:59.33 | wuming | the P4 with 1M L2 cache will make lots differences? |
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| 01:59.45 | wuming | even the Celeron -D is 2.8G? |
| 01:59.47 | PerfDave | Mo666: I'm not a bouncer, I just look like one ;) |
| 01:59.55 | caphuso | wuming: more cache is always good |
| 02:00.25 | wuming | i am going to run some J2EE stuff, more cache will more fast? |
| 02:00.29 | wuming | thx all |
| 02:00.36 | PerfDave | Mo666: Personally, I just use irssi in proxy mode and connect to it over SSH tunnels |
| 02:00.39 | Mo666 | PerfDave, i wouldn't dare calling you an irc bouncer nor bot.... ;) |
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| 02:00.46 | Strife | other than using KDE/GNOME tools, is there a way to vary the speed of the mouse in X? |
| 02:01.13 | Mo666 | PerfDave, yeah, i heard that was the way the geeks do it, but i'm not that geeky yet |
| 02:01.24 | PerfDave | Mo666: Every time I'm out at a club, somebody will mistake me for a bouncer, a dealer or both :) |
| 02:01.34 | kbrooks | wtf |
| 02:01.35 | kbrooks | ? |
| 02:01.38 | kbrooks | bouncer? |
| 02:01.44 | kbrooks | WHAT THE FUCK |
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| 02:01.49 | PerfDave | Mo666: Hang on, you're hand-compiling sources against openssl dev libraries, and you're not that geeky? ;p |
| 02:01.59 | Mo666 | hehe |
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| 02:02.17 | kbrooks | what the f is a bouncer |
| 02:02.20 | PerfDave | Mo666: I run a copy of irssi on a shell account, and connect to it from two other irssi instances. |
| 02:02.28 | Strife | kbrooks, a big guy that kicks people out of bars |
| 02:02.37 | ArkAoss | whats a bar?? |
| 02:02.45 | Loof | Anyone here know if I need to do anything 'special' to run Debian on an IBM xSeries 255... I'm trying to figure out what sort of internal RAID controller it has... |
| 02:02.50 | Strife | a place where you get drunk other than your house |
| 02:02.55 | Mo666 | PerfDave, plus using screen to switch? |
| 02:03.00 | PerfDave | kbrooks: An IRC bouncer allows you to connect your irc client to a bouncer, which makes it look like you're connecting to the server from the machine you're running the bouncer on rather than the machine you're running the client on. |
| 02:03.04 | sbk | a bouncer is a ball you either whack or get whacked by. in cricket. not so different from the american bouncer, come to think of it :-) |
| 02:03.11 | Loof | it's also got some sort of self-heal for the memory & CPUs... and I want to be sure everything will work well :) |
| 02:03.26 | kbrooks | PerfDave, is that bad |
| 02:03.43 | PerfDave | Mo666: It lives in a detached screen session. I don't ssh to it and use it like that, because my bandwidth at work is too slow. I just run irssi locally and connect to the proxy over SSH tunnels for improved latency. |
| 02:04.42 | kbrooks | is using bouncers bad |
| 02:04.48 | kbrooks | s/is/are |
| 02:04.49 | PerfDave | kbrooks: Not necessarily. |
| 02:05.02 | Mo666 | ah, yeah, that decreases latency obviously... well, in a couple of months... i might try that., too |
| 02:05.21 | PerfDave | I am not really, for example, sat at sparky.ox.compsoc.net. Which is just as well, because the machine room it lives in is dark, cold and crowded ;) |
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| 02:05.33 | Mo666 | is using proxy servers bad? |
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| 02:05.43 | wntd | I copied rewrite.load from mods-available to mods-enabled and I still don't have mod_rewrite loading :/ |
| 02:05.45 | Mo666 | (j/k) |
| 02:05.46 | kbrooks | Mo666, are. |
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| 02:05.55 | kbrooks | 'servers' |
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| 02:06.12 | kbrooks | wntd, lol. |
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| 02:06.43 | simonrvn | wntd: don't copy it, use a2enmod/a2dismod |
| 02:06.50 | wntd | I killall -HUP'd apache2... oh |
| 02:07.01 | simonrvn | wntd: and you need to HUP the daemon ... |
| 02:07.03 | Mo666 | kbrooks, you can put irc bouncers it to good or bad use, just like proxy servers, that was my point. |
| 02:07.08 | Guerin | no, 'is' was correct in that case |
| 02:07.17 | simonrvn | wntd: use apache2ctl graceful for that |
| 02:07.27 | PerfDave | Guerin: Indeed - "is the act of using..." |
| 02:07.44 | Mo666 | -it |
| 02:08.04 | simonrvn | wntd: there's also a script for vhost dis/enabling, a2ensite/a2dissite |
| 02:08.17 | Guerin | !nonsense kbrooks |
| 02:08.18 | dpkg | kbrooks: I am not rememebered!!! someone gives me a command for upgrade my kernel apt-get cache.... !!!???? |
| 02:08.27 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 02:08.30 | Guerin | the !nonsense has become our grammarsmite |
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| 02:08.42 | wntd | a2enmod mod_rewrite gives 'This module does not exist!' |
| 02:08.45 | ArkAoss | i was gonna ask a stupid question, but let the world know... I am reading the F man instead |
| 02:08.49 | simonrvn | "re-membered"? :P |
| 02:08.58 | swatikiss | is anyone having difficulties with apt-get now ? |
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| 02:09.07 | wntd | aha, the 'mod_' was unnecessary |
| 02:09.13 | simonrvn | wntd: do a2enmod, it'll spit out a list |
| 02:09.14 | peterS | $apt-get now |
| 02:09.14 | peterS | E: Invalid operation now |
| 02:09.18 | The_Vulture | swatikiss: define "difficulties" and no. |
| 02:09.36 | Mo666 | peterS, lol |
| 02:09.40 | swatikiss | The_Vulture nm |
| 02:09.53 | simonrvn | ArkAoss: yay |
| 02:10.04 | Mo666 | peterS $apt-get now |
| 02:10.04 | Mo666 | peterS E: I'm not in the mood now, try again later. |
| 02:10.15 | PerfDave | E: Sorry luv, I'm washing my hair |
| 02:10.25 | simonrvn | "not tonight dear, i have a headache" |
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| 02:11.07 | simonrvn | reply: "it helps with headaches" |
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| 02:11.32 | caphuso | simonrvn: that sounds like a safe way of not having sex for weeks |
| 02:11.42 | simonrvn | haha |
| 02:11.45 | Mo666 | if it's that worse, i'd recommend a dist-upgrade |
| 02:12.10 | PerfDave | It's true. Headaches in women are caused by lack of potassium which can only be cured by giving head. Or eating bananas. |
| 02:12.19 | soften | "hmm, perfect, you'll never guess what I was doing with the aspirin" |
| 02:12.41 | justin | PerfDave: orange juice has potassium too :-) |
| 02:12.43 | simonrvn | chewing it? |
| 02:12.48 | PerfDave | justin: Don't tell *them* that. |
| 02:12.58 | resiak | simonrvn: Chewing what, exactly? ;) |
| 02:13.01 | swatikiss | heh |
| 02:13.06 | simonrvn | the aspirin |
| 02:13.16 | simonrvn | </innocent> |
| 02:13.17 | edrx | hi - I'm trying to figure out how discover/kudzu converts a device description, say "Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]", into a series of names of linux modules... any pointers or hints (pointers to source code are fine)? |
| 02:13.41 | PerfDave | Kudzu is some Japanese foodstuff, isn't it? |
| 02:13.44 | simonrvn | edrx: automagically and annoyingly |
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| 02:13.55 | ArkAoss | ok now the manuals got me confused... i built my kernel in usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.20 and that has a few folders in it,,, i get the vaugue feeling i need to tell mkinitrd one of those folders with which to build its init magic.. welll hell I'm gonna take a chance and try init |
| 02:13.56 | PerfDave | (as well as being some hardware autodetecty thang) |
| 02:14.06 | directhex | kudzu is redhat's version of discover |
| 02:14.09 | simonrvn | PerfDave: a japanese plant that's become a weed in the southeastern u.s. |
| 02:14.15 | bucky | PerfDave, no, it was an imported ground cover plant that took over in Georgia |
| 02:14.18 | edrx | simonrvn: there must be a way to do it less automagically. |
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| 02:14.45 | zignig | edrx: run lspci -n ( and make a hash file from pci-id to module name ) |
| 02:14.45 | PerfDave | Oh, that's so Quatermass it's awesome. |
| 02:14.54 | edrx | directhex: how much code do they share? |
| 02:14.59 | PerfDave | Well, I suppose it's a bit War of the Worlds as well :) |
| 02:15.16 | FrozenSpoon | It appears 2.4.19 is the last stable kernel package for Debian, is using the 2.4.27 in the unstable branch really all that dangerous? |
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| 02:15.45 | peterS | FrozenSpoon: using a kernel image package from unstable won't work out of the box, thanks to other stuff having been altered a bit |
| 02:15.51 | ArkAoss | and i was wrong... |
| 02:16.01 | peterS | FrozenSpoon: particularly the stuff revolving around mkinitrd |
| 02:16.02 | PerfDave | FrozenSpoon: Mixing packages between branches of Debian is dangerous full stop. |
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| 02:17.08 | FrozenSpoon | mmm so I may just be better off building a new kernel straight from the source? how easily will that play with Debian by upgrading manually? |
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| 02:17.23 | wntd | argh |
| 02:17.29 | PerfDave | FrozenSpoon: Which branch of Debian are you running currently? Woody? |
| 02:17.31 | wntd | it still doesn't seem to be working |
| 02:17.39 | FrozenSpoon | woody with 2.4.18 |
| 02:17.45 | edrx | zignig: this hash already exists, buried somewhere inside discover and friends. I'm wondering where the table is - if someone knows that will save me work of unpacking the source, grepping it, discovering that the module names are sowmehere else, etc |
| 02:17.49 | PerfDave | FrozenSpoon: Why do you want to use 2.4.27? |
| 02:17.51 | wntd | how can I see what apache modules I have loaded |
| 02:18.01 | FrozenSpoon | I need 2.4.20+ to use a union filesystem driver |
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| 02:18.29 | zignig | edrx: /usr/share/discover/* |
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| 02:18.44 | ArkAoss | ok screw that.. i read the redme and figured it out.. someone whack me with a wet trout |
| 02:18.45 | Covener | FrozenSpoon: union filesystem driver? that's just asking for downtime |
| 02:18.46 | PerfDave | FrozenSpoon: You're probably best off getting the 2.4.27 kernel-source package from sarge or sid and building that. |
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| 02:19.06 | sfrong | Can somebody help me set up PCMCIA? |
| 02:19.11 | PerfDave | FrozenSpoon: No idea if it'll work; I know that 2.6 stuff doesn't work easily on Woody. |
| 02:19.44 | simonrvn | partly due to ancient binutils, and partly the need for module-init-tools |
| 02:20.02 | PerfDave | FrozenSpoon: Oh, and use make-kpkg ;) |
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| 02:20.21 | EtherNet | does anyone know what is the best MTU for 1mb ADSL downstream ? |
| 02:20.49 | FrozenSpoon | yeah, I'll guess I'll give it a shot with make-kpkg. I can easilly roll back if something pukes |
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| 02:21.30 | edrx | zignig: thanks, that's a good start (but still the module names are not there) |
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| 02:24.01 | zignig | edrx: they are. |
| 02:24.27 | edrx | zignig: I'm checking more carefully... |
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| 02:25.15 | wntd | argh why won't you use my rewrite rules damn you argh |
| 02:25.28 | sfrong | Can somebody help me set up PCMCIA in Linux? I compiled it into the kernel and apt-getted pcmcia-cs, and hte pcmcia service should be running, but the little power light on my pcmcia card isn't lit. |
| 02:25.33 | zog-vsl | how do I force binding a particular interface (eth0, eth1) to a particular mac address to stop ethX changing unpredictably? |
| 02:25.39 | wntd | You think I would have at least borked it with a malformed rule but no |
| 02:25.48 | simonrvn | rewrite is very powerful, but also very much a PITA to set up sometimes |
| 02:26.00 | PerfDave | zog-vsl: ifrename |
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| 02:26.25 | wntd | I know it's loaded (I remembered phpinfo() would show it) |
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| 02:26.39 | wntd | it doesn't even seem to acknowledge the .htaccess rules |
| 02:27.03 | wntd | -rw-r--r-- 1 josh josh 56 2004-12-21 18:21 .htaccess |
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| 02:28.18 | zog-vsl | PerfDave: thanks |
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| 02:28.38 | simonrvn | what a nice splash for gimp 2.2 |
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| 02:29.25 | toresbe | simonrvn: A bucket of water from the third floor of an appartment building |
| 02:29.32 | simonrvn | heh |
| 02:29.54 | toresbe | The gimp splash screens have become a competition |
| 02:30.01 | toresbe | I remember reading it on slashdot |
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| 02:30.07 | toresbe | and browsing through the wiki |
| 02:30.16 | toresbe | there were some awesome images |
| 02:30.38 | toresbe | I'm calling it a night though |
| 02:31.00 | wntd | I put garbage in .htaccess and there's nothing in the error logs |
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| 02:31.14 | SlackShrike | hi |
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| 02:31.28 | patrick_ | If i just want to install debian with gnome, how many CDs do i need to burn? |
| 02:31.31 | SlackShrike | how to remove the menu-Debian of Gnome ? |
| 02:32.23 | PerfDave | patrick_: Probably just the first one, maybe the first two. You can always netinstall anything you miss. |
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| 02:32.55 | Mo666 | wntd, there's many possible reasons: this server isn't running apache, the mod_rewrite module is missing, this apache is configured not to interprete .htaccess files |
| 02:33.17 | wntd | I headed over to #apache |
| 02:33.18 | patrick_ | perfdave: thanks, |
| 02:33.21 | Mo666 | patrick_, between 0 and 1 |
| 02:33.32 | Totetsu | I can't seem to use apt-get to obtain libpng, what URL should I have in my sources.list so it can find it? |
| 02:33.36 | wntd | although I think I'm just going to go sacrifice a goat at this point |
| 02:33.48 | patrick_ | I am interested in trying Debian, gentoo is a bit buggy with winex, my nvidia driver, etc |
| 02:33.56 | patrick_ | mo666, meaning just one? |
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| 02:34.00 | SEN_5421 | where is the file that has the mirror sites for which I am downloading from when using apt-get? |
| 02:34.01 | Guerin | debian's apache setup doesn't honour htaccess by default, I believe |
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| 02:34.06 | Totetsu | Patrick, try Ubutnu. |
| 02:34.09 | Mo666 | patrick_, meaining either none or one |
| 02:34.21 | Totetsu | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:34.22 | Guerin | Totetsu: #ubunto for evangelisation, kthx |
| 02:34.26 | SEN_5421 | Totetsu, thx |
| 02:34.27 | patrick_ | ok, and the kernel is on there, right? just checking |
| 02:34.28 | bucky | or Gnoppix |
| 02:34.33 | Guerin | SEN_5421: use apt-setup |
| 02:34.41 | SEN_5421 | guerin will do |
| 02:34.49 | ArkAoss | rebooting with my "new" kernel.. lets see if i crapped it up good!! |
| 02:35.07 | directhex | !knoppixsmite bucky |
| 02:35.38 | Mo666 | patrick_, no the kernel is not included in debian. debian uses windows to boot |
| 02:35.44 | Mo666 | </joking> |
| 02:35.47 | Mo666 | yes, it's there |
| 02:35.52 | patrick_ | phew |
| 02:35.56 | patrick_ | scared me a minute |
| 02:35.57 | Guerin | ... |
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| 02:36.09 | ArkAoss | well shit the thing came back up |
| 02:36.24 | patrick_ | so, you're telling me, If i download one CD, i can install everything I need (just the base, gnome, kernel, drivers, and apt)? |
| 02:36.36 | sgeigerbot | knoppixsmite--that's funny. |
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| 02:36.39 | patrick_ | i can get everything else later |
| 02:36.50 | bucky | patrick_, i like doing a net install with two floppies, if you have no exotic hardware |
| 02:37.03 | patrick_ | bucky: I have a WLAN card |
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| 02:37.18 | peterS | bucky: you'll need 3 floppies for sarge |
| 02:37.30 | patrick_ | thanks guys |
| 02:37.30 | directhex | peterS, bloat! |
| 02:37.37 | Jebediah | I did something stupid and overwrote /dev/hdc ... how would I get it back? |
| 02:37.46 | ferret | !mpg123 |
| 02:37.46 | dpkg | from memory, mpg123 is a _command line_ mp3 player. in non-free and buggy (use mpg321 instead), or the most cpu/memory efficient one around!, or contains LGPL and GPL portions |
| 02:37.52 | PerfDave | !first cd advocacy |
| 02:37.57 | sgeigerbot | bucky: The new debian installer is sweet. 34MB...so it's a netinst (from CD) but it gives you LVM and RAID setup in no time flat. |
| 02:38.03 | peterS | Jebediah: pray to all the gods you can think of, and run 'gpart' |
| 02:38.09 | PerfDave | !full cd advocacy |
| 02:38.09 | dpkg | full cd advocacy is, like, you can download the images while using your computer for something else, but you can't use your computer while Debian is netinstalling. It takes a full desktop install down to under half an hour from a couple of hours, even on ADSL. |
| 02:38.12 | PerfDave | Damnit, I forgot my own factoid ;) |
| 02:38.23 | edrx | Jebediah: you lost the file in /dev or you overwrote the data in hdc? |
| 02:38.28 | ArkAoss | holy farkin cow shit.. the kernel recompile farking seems to have worked... i need me a cold one! |
| 02:38.28 | Jebediah | peterS: it just deleted the entry |
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| 02:38.38 | bucky | sweet, i'll try the installer next time |
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| 02:38.42 | peterS | Jebediah: oh. cd /dev; MAKEDEV hdc |
| 02:38.46 | Jebediah | edrx: just the entry, it's DVD so I certainly can't lost the data |
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| 02:38.54 | Jebediah | peterS: takk! |
| 02:39.08 | sgeigerbot | ~factinfo cmd: knoppixsmite (.*?) |
| 02:39.08 | apt | there's no such factoid as CMD: knoppixsmite (.*?), sgeigerbot |
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| 02:39.09 | peterS | Jebediah: is that svensk? |
| 02:39.27 | edrx | Jebediah: the easy way is something like cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV hdc |
| 02:39.27 | directhex | !knoppixsmite sgeigerbot |
| 02:39.35 | Jebediah | peterS: Norsk, I know a few words :D |
| 02:39.39 | directhex | sorry. i should get more sleep |
| 02:39.42 | peterS | Jebediah: eh, close enough (: |
| 02:39.43 | Jebediah | edrx: thanks, it worked |
| 02:39.48 | SEN_5421 | sgeigerbot, I could not install debian using the any of the available version... I had to install a slightly different version of debian. |
| 02:39.51 | edrx | Jebediah: :) |
| 02:40.00 | Jebediah | peterS: jupp, hehe |
| 02:40.11 | directhex | SEN_5421, "slightly different version" meaning...? |
| 02:40.13 | SEN_5421 | I am using an MSI K8 NEO2 Platinum motherboard; it is not nice. |
| 02:40.17 | edrx | Jebediah: if you had lost the data in hdc then things would be much harder :) |
| 02:40.21 | peterS | edrx: MAKEDEV has been in /sbin for a very long time now. the one in /dev is just a symlink. so there's no need to say ./MAKEDEV anymore. |
| 02:40.21 | SEN_5421 | directhex, Progeny 2 |
| 02:40.40 | sgeigerbot | !+listkeys advocacy |
| 02:40.42 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'advocacy' by key (4 shown): debian advocacy ;; full cd advocacy ;; language-advocacy ;; advocacy troll. |
| 02:40.54 | sgeigerbot | !+full cd advocacy |
| 02:40.55 | dpkg | from memory, full cd advocacy is you can download the images while using your computer for something else, but you can't use your computer while Debian is netinstalling. It takes a full desktop install down to under half an hour from a couple of hours, even on ADSL. |
| 02:40.58 | edrx | peterS: hm, I hadn't noticed :s |
| 02:41.07 | edrx | thx |
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| 02:41.29 | directhex | why the + ? |
| 02:41.35 | SEN_5421 | sgeigerbot, my CD-rom was not working during the install... after the drivers were loaded the install froze. |
| 02:41.46 | peterS | directhex: for long factoids, + means spam the channel whereas otherwise it would just /msg you back |
| 02:41.49 | SEN_5421 | I meant 'stopped working' |
| 02:41.51 | peterS | directhex: I don't know the length cutoff for this |
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| 02:42.00 | sgeigerbot | !factdict knoppixsmite |
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| 02:42.42 | SEN_5421 | how do I get a working version of an installation debian CD to run correctly on my computer? |
| 02:42.45 | afra | is there an app which will play what I type in a robotic voice? |
| 02:43.01 | SEN_5421 | I am not sure what the issue is that stops the install process from continuing. |
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| 02:44.14 | directhex | SEN_5421, #debian-boot |
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| 02:46.20 | green_earz | SEN_5421: will knoppix run on the box. just to check things out |
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| 02:47.26 | ArkAoss | damiit!!! i forgot to add video 4 linux.. piece of shit! |
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| 02:48.37 | sgeigerbot | ArkAoss: You know, I've been thinking of writing a little script to check my .config for all the things that I normally want to compile in...and then giving me a report. Grep isn't enough, though, because sometimes those things aren't even in the file...so you have to detect their absence. |
| 02:49.00 | ArkAoss | no wait i do have it... what i dont have is directbideomode or some crap |
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| 02:49.08 | Procyan | hi |
| 02:49.54 | simonrvn | i guess they want 700+ hellos back =) |
| 02:49.58 | ArkAoss | xawtv returns "X error of failed request xf86DGANoDirectVideoMode |
| 02:49.59 | Procyan | I'd be poor :( anyway.... is there a debian boot cd that will allow me to install over the net? |
| 02:50.09 | ArkAoss | probably |
| 02:50.39 | simonrvn | Procyan: yes. netinst |
| 02:51.30 | Procyan | "Minimal CD" hmmmm... that was easier then last time I tried |
| 02:51.33 | wntd | It was the AllowOverride setting |
| 02:51.42 | green_earz | Procyan:http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20041220/ >sarge-i386-netinst.iso |
| 02:51.51 | Jebediah | cripes. Complaints about not having /dev/dvd, but it won't shutup with a symlink, MAKDEV does not know how to make :( |
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| 02:53.00 | kreg | just compiled a 2.6 kernel. make menuconfig; make; make modules; make modules_install; and then put an entry in lilo for the new kernel called vmlinux. but it's a 4.4 meg kernel. can't seem to find what to do in the Documentation folder for what to do to boot it with lilo. can anyone help? |
| 02:53.01 | cafuego | Jebediah: Symlink, make sure the target is readable (and./or writeable) |
| 02:53.17 | Azar | nvz just train dpkg to greet |
| 02:53.26 | Jebediah | cafuego: I'll try |
| 02:53.31 | nvz | its like my heart left this morning.. its going too far from texas and too close to homw |
| 02:53.33 | astronut | nvz: how much does sgeigerbot make? |
| 02:53.36 | nvz | s/homw/home/ |
| 02:53.47 | cafuego | kreg: Did you enable *all* options or something? |
| 02:53.51 | Jebediah | hmmm. hdc was gone again |
| 02:53.58 | nvz | astronut: I am talking about his "... wishes he had a dollar ..." thing |
| 02:54.01 | cafuego | astronut: 2 botsnacks per day and a beating with a pointy stick. |
| 02:54.08 | dags | anyone familiar with "apic error on cpu0 60(60)" and been able find out what's causing it? asus p4p800 (i865pe) |
| 02:54.09 | kreg | cafuego: no. also i noticed a 1.6m kernel called vmlinux.bin in the boot dir |
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| 02:54.23 | kreg | cafuego: however 1.6m would still be too large. |
| 02:54.27 | edrx | zignig: are you sure that /usr/share/discover/pci.lst and friends have the module names in? here the three top-level modules for my soundcard (meaning: if I modprobe -i them the others get installed) are ac97_codec, snd_cs46xx, and snd_pcm_oss, and for my card /usr/share/discover/pci.lst just says "cs64xx" in the 4th field... there must be something saying "cs46xx -> ac97_codec snd_cs46xx and snd_pcm_oss" somewhere |
| 02:54.28 | peterS | dags: that's a motherboard error. probably harmless unless you get a lot of them really fast |
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| 02:54.35 | cafuego | kreg: You want arch/i386/boot/bzImage |
| 02:54.52 | kreg | cafuego: with a 2.6, running make bzImage didn't work. |
| 02:55.03 | ArkAoss | i think i just have the gui setup too weak to run xawtv |
| 02:55.04 | cafuego | kreg: Alternatively, use 'make-kpkg to build your kernel and don't worry about it. |
| 02:55.13 | peterS | edrx: no, snd_cs46xx is an alsa module, cs46xx is not |
| 02:55.20 | dags | peterS: they're all over the place at first boot... mb seems ok in winxp + prime95 |
| 02:55.25 | Jebediah | kreg: make bzImage worked for me... |
| 02:55.31 | kreg | >: ( hmmmm |
| 02:55.35 | kreg | i'll keep playing then. |
| 02:55.38 | kreg | thank you |
| 02:55.53 | cafuego | kreg: apt-get install kernel-package; make-kpkg kernel-image |
| 02:55.54 | findme | is walmarts balance laptop any good ? $499 |
| 02:56.06 | peterS | edrx: also, snd_cs46xx is the only module you need to load to get that chip going in ALSA. however, snd_pcm_oss is useful if you want to use it with non-ALSA apps |
| 02:56.07 | astronut | findme: for that price? i doubt it |
| 02:56.11 | morggin | its got linux on it |
| 02:56.13 | Jebediah | findme: I got a similar specced one and it works pretty good |
| 02:56.20 | astronut | morggin: linspire |
| 02:56.21 | kreg | cafuego: i'll try out that debian way too. thank you |
| 02:56.23 | Covener | findme: you can pick up a dell 1150 for about a hundred more |
| 02:56.46 | findme | http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=3504708&cat=4070&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A4070#long_descr |
| 02:56.51 | findme | ha ha linspire linux |
| 02:56.55 | OhMyAchinLap | ha yes |
| 02:57.01 | OhMyAchinLap | that laptop is overpriced for what it is |
| 02:57.03 | astronut | previously known as lindows |
| 02:57.15 | findme | ah i was wondering where lindows went ? |
| 02:57.15 | OhMyAchinLap | i have a buddy who is trying to use enlightenment in debian |
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| 02:57.32 | findme | Covener, true |
| 02:57.42 | findme | Jebediah, similar one which model ? |
| 02:57.45 | OhMyAchinLap | how might he use the enlightenment window manager and desktop envrionment? |
| 02:57.55 | astronut | findme: settlement w/ ms |
| 02:57.55 | OhMyAchinLap | all he has been able to do is make gnome or kde use the E WM |
| 02:57.57 | astronut | changed the name |
| 02:58.00 | morggin | hey all i just got debian installed with sarge RC2 installer ... the 2.6.8-1-1386 kernel dose not support Dual Processors by default dose it ? Im gona have to build a new kernel arnt I |
| 02:58.04 | astronut | M$ realized they couldn't win |
| 02:58.04 | Jebediah | findme: one sec, lemme link you |
| 02:58.11 | ArkAoss | 14 in screen, 30gb hd 128mb ram (hmmmm have 128mb chip lyin in a drawer someplace..... cdrom.. mite be funn... if it was someone else |
| 02:58.19 | findme | astronut, ah thanks |
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| 02:58.45 | Jebediah | findme: http://desknote.net/dn/spec.cfm?modID=104 |
| 02:58.46 | OhMyAchinLap | morggin, yes i believe you will |
| 02:58.56 | OhMyAchinLap | or else grab a pre-compiled SMP kernel |
| 02:58.59 | morggin | i got this runnin on a NICE box ... Intel SAI2 dual pentium 3 1gig with 4 gigs of ram |
| 02:59.00 | OhMyAchinLap | there is likely one in apt |
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| 02:59.05 | OhMyAchinLap | nice |
| 02:59.29 | nvz | I was tired as all hell like two hours ago *shrug* |
| 02:59.37 | nvz | not anymore :P |
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| 02:59.41 | findme | Jebediah, pretty neat. thanks. |
| 03:00.05 | morggin | thinkin of going to Gentoo on this box |
| 03:00.13 | morggin | with a custom kernel |
| 03:00.17 | Jebediah | findme: no prob |
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| 03:00.32 | Jebediah | Ok, so I do MAKEDEV hdc and it says it's created but it isn't there? |
| 03:00.52 | green_earz | morggin: check out http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20041220/ sarge-i386-netinst.iso and start the install with linux26 at the very first promt of the boot, to install 2.6 kernel |
| 03:01.13 | nvz | must be depression.. I need to get me a texan hobby.. I wonder what else they do around here besides drink beer and drive motorcycles |
| 03:01.26 | Jebediah | nvz: shoot things |
| 03:01.29 | nvz | heh |
| 03:01.34 | nvz | I dont like to shoot things either |
| 03:01.38 | holycow | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39181926,00.htm <-- yey! no more polish jokes for me! |
| 03:02.08 | nvz | I dont fit in here other than my accent, becuase I had lived here as a baby and learned to talk here |
| 03:02.13 | edrx | peterS: so... do you know where the other module names are coming from? cause I haven't asked for any one of them by giving an explicit name... |
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| 03:02.22 | peterS | edrx: which other ones? |
| 03:02.23 | Jebediah | holycow: who's stupidier a Norsk or a Polsk? |
| 03:02.33 | Jebediah | holycow: they are still arguing about it ;) |
| 03:02.46 | holycow | ey! leave my polish buddies alone! they saved the day this time! |
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| 03:03.05 | Jebediah | peterS: that MAKEDEV works without error, but hdc is not there |
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| 03:03.31 | nvz | of course I am nomally pretty good with adapting, I seem to loose more confidence the further I get from home. I am gonna write my friends a letter, ask them to tell me one thing they remember about me, and if they have seen me lately |
| 03:03.36 | edrx | peterS: ops - actually all of the three are "other ones"... ac97_codec, snd_cs46xx, and snd_pcm_oss |
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| 03:04.16 | OhMyAchinLap | anyone running enlightenment on their desktop? |
| 03:04.18 | peterS | edrx: ac97_codec is not related to ALSA. that would be loaded as a prerequisite for cs46xx, not snd_cs46xx. so that's weird. |
| 03:04.28 | morggin | im running fluxbox here |
| 03:04.31 | OhMyAchinLap | me too |
| 03:04.34 | OhMyAchinLap | trying to help a friend |
| 03:04.37 | edrx | Jebediah: maybe you're using udev and udev is controlling the device files in /dev itself... maybe you removed the modules that supported your CD and it removed /dev/hdc |
| 03:04.44 | SEN_5421 | in my file : /etc/apt/sources.list I have : deb http://archive.progeny.com/debian sarge main ; but I am unable to successfully get new programs using 'apt-get install gvim' ; what needs to be fixed? 'W: Couldn't stat source package' |
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| 03:05.17 | Jebediah | edrx: I am using udev... but I did ln -s /dev/dvd /dev/hdc and it overwrote it... |
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| 03:05.29 | Ins|de | hi |
| 03:05.44 | morggin | anyone point me to a good doc to get qmail on sarge running also |
| 03:05.46 | peterS | Jebediah: if you're going to use udev, don't try to go behind its back. use the config files to tell it what you want. |
| 03:05.46 | Ins|de | how do i take a X screenshot from terminal? |
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| 03:06.11 | ApEtc | !screenshot |
| 03:06.11 | dpkg | i heard screenshot is 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
| 03:06.15 | peterS | morggin: around here we don't much care for qmail. life is too short for mail servers with headaches for licenses. |
| 03:06.20 | Jebediah | peterS: config files, eh? |
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