| 00:00.06 | leOn | hmm.. do you say cold reboots or hot reboots?... |
| 00:00.09 | smj | arestheimpaler: I've currently got my firewall and fileserver running off of it, no problems. |
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| 00:00.20 | smj | arestheimpaler: Oh, one suggestion, buy some REALLY NICE CABLES for it. |
| 00:00.26 | smj | arestheimpaler: Don't by crap cables. |
| 00:00.50 | arestheimpaler | smj, the problem is, I'm buying also a new mb and cpu... sooo I cant afford and expensive kvm.. I already have some cables.. |
| 00:00.55 | smj | arestheimpaler: I tried shoving some leftover Belkin cables into it and almost cried before I realized that the cables were the problem. |
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| 00:01.04 | simonrvn | hth do you make something kaffe work with a jar ? |
| 00:01.06 | puffy | hi |
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| 00:01.18 | simonrvn | try to freaking run the jar, and it fucking exits |
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| 00:01.52 | puffy | i have a problem. http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ael0TZ55.html --> i copied here the parameters and the problem. Have you any idea how tro solve it ? |
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| 00:02.03 | paxmaster | hey i just install debian sarge |
| 00:02.17 | paxmaster | its more fontend (gui) |
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| 00:02.58 | smj | puffy: Sorry, I cannot help you. Hunger is consuming me. I must digest something... |
| 00:03.07 | arestheimpaler | smj, thanks for the recommendation |
| 00:03.26 | arestheimpaler | smj, I need to leave too cause I'm waaay to hungry |
| 00:03.28 | arestheimpaler | later |
| 00:03.46 | paxmaster | where could i find all of the packages that are install in my system , |
| 00:04.08 | simonrvn | dpkg -l | grep '^.i' |
| 00:04.08 | dpkg | No packages found matching |
| 00:04.09 | MobyTurbo | simonrvn, maybe use "fastjar", but it says it's incomplete |
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| 00:04.32 | paxmaster | is there a directory |
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| 00:04.49 | Nyle | so apppuffy, so apparantly lspci reports seeing the card, yet you cannot bring it up? areyou using the proper drivers, with kernel 2.4+ you need to use the 8139too drivers, dont you? |
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| 00:05.03 | simonrvn | do the command i gave you, or do dpkg --get-selections | grep install |
| 00:05.11 | dli | where to disable all screensaver in kernel ? |
| 00:05.25 | simonrvn | the kernel doesn't run screensavers |
| 00:05.27 | cafuego | dli: Disbale the DPMS option in X. |
| 00:05.29 | Nyle | puffy* |
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| 00:05.43 | dli | cafuego: how to do that? |
| 00:05.52 | Nyle | !realtek |
| 00:05.52 | dpkg | hmm... realtek is a piece of crap chipset that fortunately is a lot better if you use the 8139too driver in 2.2.18 and 2.4.0 instead of rtl8139. a chip that has a pretty high server load while transmitting data. very cheap and common as an embedded ethernet controller Works fine for me. |
| 00:06.00 | puffy | Nyle: i am here |
| 00:06.05 | dli | simonm: the kernel sends some signal like sleep or suspend I think |
| 00:06.27 | Nyle | puffy see above |
| 00:06.32 | puffy | i check |
| 00:06.40 | puffy | but it is hard a little bit |
| 00:06.47 | puffy | english makes it harder :) |
| 00:06.49 | simonrvn | from now on every time mis tab completes my nick i'm going to ignore them |
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| 00:07.22 | puffy | i check the kernel |
| 00:07.25 | puffy | a moment |
| 00:07.26 | Nyle | puffy, do you have modconf? if not apt-get install modconf | modconf | then go down the list and enable the RTL8139too module and try ifup eth1 again |
| 00:07.47 | Nyle | puffy, also remove the other rtl modules |
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| 00:08.16 | puffy | Nyle: it's in the kernel, not modul |
| 00:08.26 | Nyle | w/e |
| 00:08.35 | puffy | hm ? |
| 00:08.36 | smj | Woohoo!!! Food |
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| 00:09.26 | Nyle | smj, i just gluttoned on pakistani food :) |
| 00:09.47 | puffy | # CONFIG_8139CP is not set |
| 00:09.47 | puffy | CONFIG_8139TOO=y |
| 00:09.47 | puffy | CONFIG_8139TOO_PIO=y |
| 00:09.47 | puffy | CONFIG_8139TOO_TUNE_TWISTER=y |
| 00:09.47 | puffy | CONFIG_8139TOO_8129=y |
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| 00:10.00 | puffy | re |
| 00:10.05 | puffy | sry for the flood |
| 00:10.13 | puffy | i thought 5 lines won't be |
| 00:10.32 | RichiH | puffy: 3+ are |
| 00:10.39 | puffy | sry |
| 00:10.45 | puffy | i will take care of it |
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| 00:10.58 | puffy | it was the kernel config |
| 00:11.03 | puffy | did you see it ? |
| 00:11.05 | Nyle | puffy, then I don't know what the problem might be |
| 00:11.15 | Nyle | this is where I cannot help you furthur |
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| 00:11.31 | puffy | :( |
| 00:11.37 | puffy | thanks a lot |
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| 00:11.47 | puffy | i have to google a night ... :) |
| 00:11.47 | goonie | anybody tried any openoffice basic programming? |
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| 00:12.00 | puffy | byz |
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| 00:16.52 | KirbyMeister | Can someone help me with my audio? |
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| 00:17.43 | epall | I'm trying to install sarge with debootstrap under knoppix 3.4 and it's giving me errors |
| 00:17.47 | dli_ | KirbyMeister: never ask to ask :( |
| 00:17.52 | epall | Unpacking replacement libstdc++5 ... |
| 00:17.52 | epall | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 00:17.52 | epall | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.52 | epall | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.52 | epall | W: Failure while unpacking required packages. This will be attempted up to five times. |
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| 00:18.24 | dli_ | epall: ask in #knoppix |
| 00:18.31 | epall | but it's a debootstrap issue |
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| 00:18.52 | cafuego | is it? I didn't see any debootstrap errors. |
| 00:18.58 | epall | I tried to paste |
| 00:18.59 | cafuego | You just pasted useless shit. |
| 00:19.04 | epall | really? |
| 00:19.08 | cafuego | Yes. |
| 00:19.11 | epall | what is useful? |
| 00:19.19 | cafuego | The *actual* errors? |
| 00:19.29 | cafuego | And even then, use #flood or paster. See /topic |
| 00:19.29 | jackets | hello everyone, happy holidays |
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| 00:19.33 | epall | are they buried in the output? |
| 00:19.48 | dli_ | jackets: not holidays for everyone here |
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| 00:20.15 | epall | okay, another question: does it work to run debootstrap again on the same HD w/o clearing it out? |
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| 00:20.24 | citricoder | hi |
| 00:20.42 | cafuego | epall: Did you try? Did it work? |
| 00:20.48 | epall | it got crabby |
| 00:20.50 | Spark | is there a consensus on the best filesystem to use for the root partition of a busy, mainly unattended, server machine? |
| 00:20.53 | epall | about stuff already being there |
| 00:20.58 | jackets | i have a stange problem, kde crashes with signal 4 when it gets to "initializing paripherals"...anyone have any ideas? i couldn't find any info in the xf86 log |
| 00:20.58 | cafuego | well then |
| 00:21.02 | epall | so I was wondering if I was just being wrong |
| 00:21.07 | epall | maybe there is a way? |
| 00:21.13 | citricoder | i use OSS sound drivers, but sound only works under root |
| 00:21.15 | jackets | dli: true, but for many :)_ |
| 00:21.21 | epall | I mostly don't want to dl everything again |
| 00:21.27 | citricoder | how to change permisions, and what permisions? |
| 00:21.27 | dli_ | cafuego: I commented Option "DPMS" in XF86Config-4, and restarted X, X still goes to blank screen |
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| 00:21.57 | goonie | citricoder: have you added yourself to group "audio"? |
| 00:21.57 | cafuego | dli_: How about option DPMS false |
| 00:22.05 | cafuego | (or Off) |
| 00:22.09 | dli_ | cafuego: trying |
| 00:22.18 | citricoder | goonie: no, how to do that? |
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| 00:22.25 | goonie | as root: |
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| 00:22.50 | goonie | adduser <your_user_name> audio |
| 00:22.52 | xfree86x | anyone no how to access ataraid drives on linux kernel 2.4.27 ? |
| 00:22.55 | nvz | citricoder: you didnt get very far |
| 00:22.59 | nvz | cafuego: ^ |
| 00:23.02 | epall | are there docs for debootstrap? |
| 00:23.04 | jackets | i'm runnind stable, vesa driver for x, kde 2, and have a new usb mouse (i think the mouse is the problem) everyhting works find in kdm and gnome... |
| 00:23.20 | paxmaster | how would i find a name in a file |
| 00:23.29 | cafuego | xfree86x: We use *hardware* raid or the kernel md driver. Not some crappy software-in-hardware solution. |
| 00:23.34 | epall | paxmaster: grep x file |
| 00:23.41 | cafuego | nvz: No, they're all evil today. it's sunday! |
| 00:23.42 | citricoder | goonie: still no sound |
| 00:24.01 | jazzmans | I just ran chkrootkit, and it says eth0: Packet Sniffer (sbin/dhclient 2480) what is this? |
| 00:24.03 | goonie | citricoder: log yourself out of X, log yourself in again... |
| 00:24.05 | xfree86x | cafeugo im not sure what you mean ? "hardware" raid or the kernel md driver, iv got a raid ata controller pci slotted into my motherboard, i can access it from windoze |
| 00:24.07 | dli_ | citricoder: do you have sound as root? |
| 00:24.10 | nvz | cafuego: its still sunday? |
| 00:24.19 | sussudio | must. stop. eating. chocolate. covered. jumbo. raisins. |
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| 00:24.26 | cafuego | xfree86x: Yes. What controller is it? Silicon image? Promise? |
| 00:24.40 | xfree86x | let me check |
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| 00:24.44 | cafuego | nvz: completely |
| 00:24.46 | cafuego | xfree86x: 'lspci' |
| 00:24.50 | citricoder | dli_ yes |
| 00:25.14 | paxmaster | thanks |
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| 00:25.22 | dli_ | citricoder: then, "adduser citricoder audio" |
| 00:25.32 | jackets | does anyone know of any problem with using a usb mouse under kde2 on woody? |
| 00:25.32 | xfree86x | according to lspci |
| 00:25.36 | xfree86x | cafeugo: i have a IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02) |
| 00:25.49 | cafuego | xfree86x: That would be the maiboard |
| 00:26.00 | xfree86x | meaning ?? |
| 00:26.03 | goonie | jackets: AFAIK that isn't a kde issue. |
| 00:26.07 | MagusXI | hey, i am trying to patch a kernel during the patching process the patch asks me what file to patch, what should the file be? |
| 00:26.09 | xfree86x | theres no manufacturer on the box just raid card |
| 00:26.12 | cafuego | xfree86x: If you have a pci add-in card you have another one in lspci |
| 00:26.17 | goonie | it's an X/kernel/hotplug issue. |
| 00:26.19 | sussudio | !tell jackets about gpm+x |
| 00:26.22 | xfree86x | so i should check for another in lspci |
| 00:26.26 | cafuego | xfree86x: Then it's not a hardware raid card and you shouldn't use it under Linux. |
| 00:26.38 | xfree86x | so whats a true hardware raid card ? |
| 00:26.50 | xfree86x | it is a pci add in card |
| 00:26.54 | sussudio | cafuego: xfree86x on #knoppix #debian |
| 00:27.03 | cafuego | xfree86x: The ones listed under hardware raid in the kernel. They start at around $300 US |
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| 00:27.13 | sussudio | !tell malex about away |
| 00:27.18 | xfree86x | mine cost me about $15 |
| 00:27.36 | cafuego | xfree86x: If you want raid on a pci add-in card, you use the card in *normal* ide mode and use kernel-mode software raid on top. |
| 00:27.38 | sussudio | malex: test |
| 00:27.39 | KirbyMeister | Help me with my audio: I get a mixer, and the mic works fine, but anything from PCM gives me static. |
| 00:27.55 | malex | sussudio: konversation doesn't mark me away :( |
| 00:27.57 | dark_light | !tell dark_light about away |
| 00:27.59 | xfree86x | thats the thing cafeugo being new to linux im not sure how to do that |
| 00:28.04 | nvz | KirbyMeister: just when you play something? |
| 00:28.09 | cafuego | xfree86x: Yes. it's not a hardware raid card. it's an IDE controller which uses a Windows driver to provide raid. |
| 00:28.10 | Hoolie | what's the oldest "safe" kernel securitywise? |
| 00:28.15 | KirbyMeister | nvz: yeah |
| 00:28.20 | cafuego | xfree86x: The sarge installer can do it for you. |
| 00:28.24 | sussudio | Hoolie: 2.0.40? |
| 00:28.28 | jazzmans | I just ran chkrootkit, and it says eth0: Packet Sniffer (sbin/dhclient 2480) what is this? (running pure sarge x86) |
| 00:28.34 | KirbyMeister | nvz: and XMMS crashes when I try to play an MP3. |
| 00:28.37 | nvz | KirbyMeister: check your cpu/mem usage when you play something |
| 00:28.38 | xfree86x | sarge installer ? is that some sort of a distro ? |
| 00:28.39 | kdmitch | what command is given to write changes in menu.lst to the boot block? |
| 00:28.44 | KirbyMeister | nvz: can do |
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| 00:28.55 | cafuego | xfree86x: Much like a winmodem isn't a modem but a half-arsed soundcard with a hole for the phone cable :-) |
| 00:29.04 | cafuego | xfree86x: It's Debian, yes. |
| 00:29.08 | epall | what do I have to do with debootstrap to get it to try again on the same hd w/o wiping the cached downloaded packages? |
| 00:29.14 | Hoolie | xfree86x: are you here again? |
| 00:29.19 | xfree86x | ah i c |
| 00:29.28 | xfree86x | apt-get install sarge ? |
| 00:29.47 | sussudio | repeat - xfree86x is using knoppix not debian - repeat |
| 00:29.52 | cafuego | xfree86x: A world of no. |
| 00:30.03 | decklin | kdmitch: none. you don't have to write anything to the mbr. |
| 00:30.04 | xfree86x | its debian |
| 00:30.09 | xfree86x | i reinstalled debial |
| 00:30.12 | xfree86x | debian |
| 00:30.17 | xfree86x | downloaded isos |
| 00:30.19 | xfree86x | u dumb ass |
| 00:30.32 | dli_ | xfree86x: not jigdo ? |
| 00:30.41 | cafuego | xfree86x: Well, if you want to use debian on that pci card, you might need tor einstall it again. |
| 00:30.41 | KirbyMeister | Okay, I opened XMMS and tried to play an MP3, which made it lock up. Processor and Memory are unaffected. |
| 00:30.54 | xfree86x | and why am i going to reinstall it ? |
| 00:30.58 | xfree86x | iv already installed it, |
| 00:30.58 | sussudio | helix: can you remove the liar/timewaster xfree86x please? |
| 00:31.06 | xfree86x | look dude |
| 00:31.11 | xfree86x | i can come back with another nick and a nother ip |
| 00:31.18 | citricoder | still no sound |
| 00:31.19 | xfree86x | if u dunt wuna help then shut up |
| 00:31.27 | KirbyMeister | I smell '1337sauce' newbs |
| 00:31.29 | citricoder | under root works |
| 00:31.37 | helix | xfree86x: please stop. |
| 00:31.38 | dli_ | citricoder: cat >/dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 00:31.48 | xfree86x | helix, im not doing anything wrong |
| 00:31.48 | sussudio | helix: he's been at it for hours. |
| 00:31.53 | xfree86x | i came here for a bit of assistance, |
| 00:31.58 | xfree86x | BEEN AT WHAT FOR HOURS U PRICK |
| 00:32.07 | helix | can you two stop talking to each other? |
| 00:32.12 | helix | xfree86x: stop |
| 00:32.14 | helix | sussudio: stop |
| 00:32.17 | helix | christ, grow up |
| 00:32.19 | sussudio | helix: he's not using debian. he's using knoppix. |
| 00:32.21 | xfree86x | helix, r u even going to listen to my side of the story |
| 00:32.24 | xfree86x | im using debian |
| 00:32.24 | citricoder | dsp, invalid devise |
| 00:32.28 | dli_ | xfree86x: somebody should destruct knoppix :( |
| 00:32.33 | helix | xfree86x: I don't care about 'sides'. I want you both to shut up. |
| 00:32.39 | xfree86x | ok then il shut up, |
| 00:32.42 | helix | thanks. |
| 00:32.44 | xfree86x | anyway |
| 00:32.47 | xfree86x | so as i was saying |
| 00:32.56 | dli_ | citricoder: are you using oss or alsa? |
| 00:32.59 | xfree86x | can i get sarge through apt-get |
| 00:33.04 | citricoder | i think alsa |
| 00:33.07 | RichiH | !sarge |
| 00:33.07 | dpkg | testing is a release phase between frozen and unstable. Sarge is now testing. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0012/msg00011.html for the creation of testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/sarge/ |
| 00:33.10 | dli_ | citricoder: "aplay /dev/urandom" |
| 00:33.15 | citricoder | cause root xmms works with alsa |
| 00:33.17 | KirbyMeister | nvz: I played an MP3 in XMMS, and my proc/mem was normal but XMMS locked up. |
| 00:33.29 | kdmitch | can somebody please tell me what grub command will rewrite menu.lst to the boot block? |
| 00:33.31 | citricoder | such a noise! |
| 00:33.37 | dli_ | I couldn't disable the screensaver :(( |
| 00:33.38 | Blissex | kdmitch: none |
| 00:33.44 | RichiH | kdmitch: none needed |
| 00:33.47 | epall | what do I have to do with debootstrap to get it to try again on the same hd w/o wiping the cached downloaded packages? |
| 00:33.59 | RichiH | kdmitch: that is why grub > lilo |
| 00:34.00 | pw | <eejit> I think I shall join #debian and demand help, and berate those who choose not to help me! |
| 00:34.04 | dli_ | kdmitch: menu.lst is a file |
| 00:34.06 | kdmitch | RichiH, really? It doesnt work like lilo then |
| 00:34.07 | citricoder | dli_ permision denied |
| 00:34.11 | citricoder | as citricoder user |
| 00:34.16 | jackets | sussudio: thanks for the tip, tried it but X still crashes durring "initializine paripherals". the mouse works well under the text console, kdm and gnome |
| 00:34.19 | RichiH | helix: kinky |
| 00:34.19 | KirbyMeister | RichiH: Writing grub into lilo wouldnt be good |
| 00:34.34 | kdmitch | well i guess i will try to reboot then... |
| 00:34.35 | kdmitch | thanks |
| 00:34.37 | helix | at least I got to consummate the marriage with you! |
| 00:34.43 | RichiH | helix: if you are interested, there is a cooking book "how it all vegan" -- i hear its good |
| 00:34.49 | dli_ | citricoder: "ls -l /dev/snd" |
| 00:34.49 | RichiH | it's* |
| 00:34.50 | helix | yeah, I've heard of that |
| 00:34.56 | helix | but I don't cook so it's useless to me |
| 00:34.56 | helix | :) |
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| 00:35.00 | RichiH | KirbyMeister: yah, yah ;) |
| 00:35.02 | cafuego | !postfixsmite pw |
| 00:35.08 | RichiH | helix: ah, true |
| 00:35.14 | jackets | goonie: the reason i think this may be a kde issue is that the mouse works well under gnome, and within kdm....any ideas? |
| 00:35.15 | pw | !ilikeeximsmite cafuego |
| 00:35.30 | dli_ | cafuego: "Option "DPMS" "false", but it still goes blank |
| 00:35.33 | RichiH | !veggiesmit #debian |
| 00:35.34 | citricoder | dli_ crw-rw---- |
| 00:35.37 | RichiH | !veggiesmite #debian |
| 00:35.42 | helix | mmm, kale |
| 00:35.55 | cafuego | !marryhelixthen pw |
| 00:35.58 | dli_ | citricoder: "root audio" ? |
| 00:36.07 | helix | hey, I use postfix |
| 00:36.08 | citricoder | yeah |
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| 00:36.11 | pw | Exim has decided to start ignoring the fact that I want mail delivered to $HOME/Maildir, and is, instead, delivering it to /var/mail/$USER. |
| 00:36.14 | pw | This is Wrong. |
| 00:36.14 | sussudio | germans don't know how to prepare curly kale (grunkohl)/potato mash.... tip: use less salt |
| 00:36.15 | citricoder | dli_ as root works fine |
| 00:36.17 | helix | don't be giving me any exim users |
| 00:36.28 | pw | !she'llneverhavemesmite helix |
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| 00:36.40 | cafuego | helix: Do pw in for the insurance and tell the judge that exim made you do it. |
| 00:36.52 | helix | pw: at least my MTA works. :) |
| 00:36.53 | pw | Heh. You wouldn't get much for me. |
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| 00:36.58 | Nyle | my lip is bleeding |
| 00:37.08 | pw | helix: Oh, it WORKS, right enough. It's just ignoring me. |
| 00:37.19 | RichiH | Nyle: cut your teeth |
| 00:37.21 | sussudio | helix: a humifier in florida? O_o |
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| 00:37.34 | xfree86x | will debian 3.1 sarge suport ata raid drives |
| 00:37.34 | helix | pw: hmm, I should take some tips from exim |
| 00:37.39 | dli_ | citricoder: "cat /dev/asound/cards" |
| 00:37.41 | helix | sussudio: when the humidity drops I get sick :( |
| 00:37.47 | Nyle | no, chapped, I opened my mouth wide for an eclair and it ripped, im a bit dehydreated, i hate chapped dry lips |
| 00:37.48 | sussudio | helix: drops below 95%? |
| 00:37.49 | dli_ | citricoder: sorry, /proc/asound |
| 00:37.50 | cafuego | xfree86x: Have you not listened AT ALL to what I've told you? |
| 00:37.54 | RichiH | helix: wash your hair |
| 00:37.55 | helix | sussudio: well, below 60% |
| 00:37.56 | wintix | hi |
| 00:37.57 | xfree86x | yes i have i just wunt it confirmed |
| 00:38.04 | RichiH | helix: that should humify your rooms for a week |
| 00:38.08 | sussudio | helix: it's 35% here at the moment |
| 00:38.09 | helix | sussudio: and my skin peels. :| |
| 00:38.11 | RichiH | then, the hair is dried |
| 00:38.12 | cafuego | xfree86x: ANY Linux distro does kernel mode raid. |
| 00:38.15 | helix | sussudio: yeah, that dries me up.. :( |
| 00:38.20 | pw | !googlesmite xfree86x |
| 00:38.21 | citricoder | dli_: what? |
| 00:38.27 | sussudio | it was 30% all week |
| 00:38.33 | cafuego | xfree86x: Only the broken ones use binary-only modules for it. |
| 00:38.34 | dli_ | citricoder: "cat /proc/asound/cards" |
| 00:38.37 | Hoolie | when will Sarge come as netinstall iso? |
| 00:38.38 | xfree86x | kernel mode raid is that wot its called |
| 00:38.39 | sussudio | probably has something to do with the freezing outside. |
| 00:38.42 | simonrvn | ffs *he's* still here? |
| 00:38.50 | Hoolie | that jigdo stuff seems like a royal pain in the neck |
| 00:38.52 | sussudio | simonrvn: yes, he is |
| 00:38.52 | xfree86x | yeah but the thing is i DONT NO HOW TO ACCES THE DRIVE |
| 00:39.00 | citricoder | dli_: nForce2 |
| 00:39.02 | xfree86x | I AM A LINUX NOOB |
| 00:39.09 | xfree86x | its ok im using 2k |
| 00:39.10 | xfree86x | asswipe |
| 00:39.13 | Spark | does the debian woody cd have support for ext3 (if used as a rescue disk) ? |
| 00:39.13 | pw | s/LINUX// |
| 00:39.13 | ddfire | hi one simple question (i read the policy manual in the debian page but i dont understand it :( ) how i do to put a simple script to run just befor x thanks |
| 00:39.28 | RichiH | pw s/xp/me/ |
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| 00:39.57 | dli_ | Spark: yes :) |
| 00:39.59 | RichiH | xfree86x: could you stop calling people names, please? |
| 00:40.04 | Hoolie | xfree86x: i sense anger and comfusion in you young grasshoppah.. I also sense Counterstrike and fear of cooties... /ignore you go |
| 00:40.20 | xfree86x | ok im sorry |
| 00:40.22 | RichiH | Hoolie: cootie? |
| 00:40.29 | xfree86x | can i just ask a question then |
| 00:40.39 | smj | WOOHOO!!! I'm fed! |
| 00:40.44 | RichiH | !tell xfree86x about netinstall |
| 00:40.45 | dli_ | citricoder: alsamixer |
| 00:40.47 | jaclyn | locate emu10k1 and locate emu10k2 and locate emu-tools all turn up the same result: nothing. is emu10k1/emu10k2 included in the 2.6.8-1-386 or 2.6.8.-1-686 kernels? |
| 00:40.49 | cafuego | xfree86x: Just one more question; were you planning on using raid0 (striped) mode? |
| 00:41.04 | Hoolie | RichiH: the things small boys fear they get from small girls.. (before they get interested in them in the "other" way ;) |
| 00:41.04 | nvz | whoo boy, just ate a crapload of greenbeans, since my cousin is picky :P |
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| 00:41.24 | SpinX | hello guys |
| 00:41.24 | citricoder | dli_: as root? |
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| 00:41.28 | RichiH | xfree86x: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ is what you need to download. we will be happy helping you install it. |
| 00:41.28 | KirbyMeister | For some reason, sound mixer on gnome works, I can get the microphone, but anything on PCM doesnt... play. I get static on pcm. |
| 00:41.31 | sussudio | nvz: funny you should use 'greenbeans' and 'crapload' in one sentence. |
| 00:41.37 | nvz | heh |
| 00:41.41 | SpinX | I'm trying to use cdrecord, I do cdrecord -scanbus.. says /dev/pg*; no such file or directory.. can anyone help me out. |
| 00:41.43 | RichiH | Hoolie: genital warts? |
| 00:41.52 | cafuego | RichiH: girl germs |
| 00:41.58 | ddfire | hi one simple question (i read the policy manual in the debian page but i dont understand it :( ) how i do to put a simple script to run just befor x thanks |
| 00:42.02 | nvz | what else is it, other than a crapload |
| 00:42.11 | xfree86x | i just want to access the hard drive connected to my cheap 15$ raid card controller (which ahs 2 ide slots) which connects to my motherboard through a pci slot, and (just to let u no) windows detects it as a raid controller and lets me see the drive and access it, this is what i wish to do in linux but i dont see any extra hard drives, im not sure what to do, |
| 00:42.13 | Hoolie | RichiH: nah.. "girl germs" i somehow think the joke was lost in translation |
| 00:42.25 | RichiH | nvz: it will turn into a load of crap, eventually |
| 00:42.34 | SpinX | can anyone help |
| 00:42.35 | wintix | ive got some probs with my hd: i have a ntfs partition on it and windows cant access it anymore.so i treied to mount it with debian but it only says that it is not a valid block device. so i took a look at the partition table with fdisk and its empty. but there is definetly a ntfs partition on it. can i access it without having a partition table on the hd? |
| 00:42.42 | Hoolie | when your a wee lad girls are nasty and icky.. when you hit jr high they're center of the universe.. |
| 00:42.47 | RichiH | Hoolie: which is a good movie |
| 00:42.51 | citricoder | dli_: as root alsamixer works, as citricoder not |
| 00:42.59 | morbuz | I have a ~/.Xdefaults (http://www.pvv.org/~hamberg/.Xdefaults). It is read, and every setting but foreground and background colour is set. However, if I manually xrdb the file, it works perfectly. Can anyone explain why this isn't done when I start X? :) |
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| 00:43.04 | Quickimaster | hey |
| 00:43.11 | Hoolie | Quickimaster: hey |
| 00:43.16 | bucky | yeh |
| 00:43.16 | Hoolie | are you the fonz? |
| 00:43.24 | dli_ | citricoder: so boring, just reboot :( |
| 00:43.24 | SpinX | or is there a module to load? |
| 00:43.25 | nvz | in the meantime ... |
| 00:43.44 | Hoolie | now.. this is getting weird.. I etiher need a supertanker of caffine.. or get my beuty sleep =) |
| 00:43.52 | ddfire | pleaseee help how i do to run a script just befor x start?????????? |
| 00:44.02 | citricoder | dli_: ok rebooting |
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| 00:44.05 | Hoolie | bbs |
| 00:44.16 | SpinX | .......... |
| 00:44.27 | cafuego | morbuz: Just add an xrdb -merge call as first line in .xsession |
| 00:44.39 | SpinX | what to add in /etc/modules.conf? |
| 00:44.47 | wintix | how do i mount a partition of a hd without having a partition table? |
| 00:44.47 | Quickimaster | how can i see the traffic on my server?? streaming media, plugins are possible. i have root acces. |
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| 00:44.52 | SpinX | for my cd burner |
| 00:44.59 | citricoder | rebooting... |
| 00:45.03 | xfree86x | any1 got an answer to my question |
| 00:45.08 | cafuego | wintix: You don't, coz it doesn't have partitions then, does it? |
| 00:45.10 | sussudio | Quickimaster: do you run debian or fedora? |
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| 00:45.16 | dli_ | how to disable X server's screensaver? |
| 00:45.23 | Quickimaster | i will have to chose |
| 00:45.30 | ApEtc | Quickimaster: iptraf might do what you want |
| 00:45.35 | Quickimaster | i can chose between fedora and debian |
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| 00:45.41 | morbuz | cafuego: Hmm, I'll test that. |
| 00:45.44 | wintix | cafuego: there is a partition on it... well no partition but the data is on the drive and i need to access it.. |
| 00:45.48 | Quickimaster | is that for a single port or just the whole server? |
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| 00:45.50 | Blissex | dli_: depends on which one. consider reading 'man xset' to start with |
| 00:45.52 | Guerin | !tell dli_ about dpms |
| 00:45.56 | cafuego | wintix: just mount the raw device |
| 00:46.03 | Blissex | dli_: then different desktop environments add their own. |
| 00:46.04 | sussudio | Quickimaster: all traffic |
| 00:46.10 | Quickimaster | how can i see the traffic on my server on a single port?? streaming media, plugins are possible. i have root acces. |
| 00:46.14 | xfree86x | i just want to access the hard drive connected to my cheap 15$ raid card controller (which ahs 2 ide slots) which connects to my motherboard through a pci slot, and (just to let u no) windows detects it as a raid controller and lets me see the drive and access it, this is what i wish to do in linux but i dont see any extra hard drives, im not sure what to do, |
| 00:46.15 | wintix | cafuego: dont know how to do this |
| 00:46.22 | cafuego | !tell Quickimaster -about repeat |
| 00:46.25 | Quickimaster | i want to know it also for every single port |
| 00:46.47 | citricoder | dli_: such a mess, as root ALSA, and as citricoder OSS |
| 00:46.52 | ApEtc | Quickimaster: It can do some port-level monitoring |
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| 00:46.55 | citricoder | how can this be possible? |
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| 00:47.00 | dli_ | Guerin: I put DPMS "false" |
| 00:47.07 | cafuego | wintix: mount -t <fstype> /dev/sda /mnt/mountpoint <-- change device/mountoint as required. |
| 00:47.10 | simonrvn | xfree86x: dude grow a clue, use that "RAID" controller as an IDE PCI card. disabuse yourself of thinking that thing is going to be better than s/w RAID in linux |
| 00:47.23 | msson | Hello, How would I set up my /etc/resolv.conf (or another file) to have pppd auto-detect the nameservers..anyone know? |
| 00:47.27 | Quickimaster | ApEtc > how? |
| 00:47.30 | xfree86x | so ur saying i just cant acces my hard drive ? |
| 00:47.35 | cafuego | simonrvn: I've been telling him that for 45 minutes. Seems to not sink in. |
| 00:47.37 | ApEtc | Quickimaster: Is it installed? |
| 00:47.42 | pmwilson | i occasionally get a kernel oops (i.e. "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address blah..." and i've run memtest86 for like 24 hours.. what else should I look into? (2.6 kernel, perhaps i should try upgrading to the latest version?) |
| 00:47.43 | simonrvn | xfree86x: *i* didn't say that |
| 00:47.51 | sussudio | msson: you don't appear to be running debian |
| 00:47.59 | morbuz | cafuego: Hmm, it doesn't look like .xsession is run at all(?). Anyway.. the strange thing is that all other settings are applied. |
| 00:47.59 | xfree86x | then WOT DO I DO FOR GOD SAKE !! THATS WOT I WUNT TO NO MAN |
| 00:48.04 | xfree86x | u guys obviously no more than me |
| 00:48.06 | Quickimaster | ApEtc > i have to install debian totally yet |
| 00:48.06 | msson | sussudio, I'm not on Debian atm |
| 00:48.08 | xfree86x | so y dnt u just help me out |
| 00:48.14 | wintix | cafuego: i get an error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdg |
| 00:48.15 | dli_ | Guerin: how to set Option "BlankTime" "time" |
| 00:48.16 | sussudio | msson: we can only advice you about debian |
| 00:48.17 | Guerin | !irritate xfree86x |
| 00:48.17 | dpkg | xfree86x: Y iz debain so old? how can I make my mepis werkz lol |
| 00:48.22 | Quickimaster | but i just want to know if it is possible before i install debian |
| 00:48.27 | cafuego | wintix: Make sure it's the right filesystem type. |
| 00:48.28 | ApEtc | Quickimaster: Why are you asking about specific programs if you aren't even in Debian yet? |
| 00:48.33 | msson | sussudio, I'm on my Windows box because my Linux box isn't working (nameserver problems) |
| 00:48.33 | Guerin | Quickimaster: anything's possible |
| 00:48.33 | dli_ | Guerin: I just need "xset s off" by default in XF86Config-4 |
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| 00:48.41 | msson | sussudio, The box in question is a Debian Sarge box... |
| 00:48.42 | simonrvn | xfree86x: maybe if you start typing like a real person instead of a script kiddie i'll be willing to help |
| 00:48.42 | hettar | xfree86x: are all the vowel keys on your keyboard broken ? |
| 00:48.56 | xfree86x | im not a script kiddie |
| 00:48.58 | wintix | cafuego: fs type is ok, definetly |
| 00:49.00 | xfree86x | im a noob to linux ?? |
| 00:49.03 | ApEtc | !noob |
| 00:49.04 | dpkg | noob is, like, < greycat> DarkCoiote: When people say "I'm a noob", or the equivalent, it's an EXCUSE for them to be LAZY and avoid doing any thinking or reading. |
| 00:49.13 | xfree86x | newbie |
| 00:49.14 | pmwilson | lol |
| 00:49.16 | xfree86x | thankyou dpkg |
| 00:49.17 | Guerin | dli_: xset isn't an option in xfree config - it's a separate program which you can put in your .xinitrc or .xsession |
| 00:49.27 | Quickimaster | Guerin > but is it easy? i need to know if for every single port, that is the problem |
| 00:49.41 | msson | sussudio, So, now that that is cleared up, any idea to how I'd do it? |
| 00:49.41 | Quickimaster | in GB is good enough |
| 00:49.42 | molo | i can't see any text, and i'm getting this messages: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/.../fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o": No symbols found Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/.../extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! |
| 00:49.45 | xfree86x | so how am i going to access my 3rd hard drive through the ide controller ? |
| 00:49.57 | bucky | msson, you need usepeerdns in your /etc/ppp/peers/provider or /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider |
| 00:49.57 | msson | sussudio, I've googled with no avail. |
| 00:50.15 | molo | what should i do? |
| 00:50.16 | msson | bucky, Thank you :) |
| 00:50.17 | bucky | whatever the case may be |
| 00:50.18 | sussudio | msson: man pppd, "usepeerdns" |
| 00:50.25 | xfree86x | so how am i going to access my 3rd hard drive through the ide controller ? |
| 00:50.31 | citricoder | dli_: such a mess, as root ALSA, and as citricoder OSS |
| 00:50.34 | msson | sussudio, Ok thanks *goes to read docs* |
| 00:50.38 | citricoder | now it works |
| 00:50.43 | Guerin | Quickimaster: debian has a shitload of network monitoring tools. I haven't yet been able to decipher what you think you need to do. |
| 00:50.48 | wintix | cafuego: thank ya for the raw mounting tip. ill try it with a different controller. |
| 00:50.55 | Guerin | citricoder: you lie |
| 00:51.00 | simonrvn | xfree86x: you fucking partition it if you haven't done so already, and mount it. i'm *SURE* others here have given you ample docs and URIs to looks at to help you do that. so INSTEAD OF FUCKING WHINING AND WASTING OUR TIME HOW ABOUT YOU GO DO THAT? |
| 00:51.05 | molo | xfree86x: /dev/hdc ? |
| 00:51.07 | Guerin | citricoder: and you repeat as well |
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| 00:51.41 | xfree86x | first of all |
| 00:51.45 | xfree86x | the third hard drive is partitioned |
| 00:51.46 | citricoder | Guerin: fu-et |
| 00:51.48 | Quickimaster | Guerin > i need to see traffic on a single port, so i know what i have to ask for money from my clients. every client has an other port |
| 00:52.03 | dli_ | Guerin: I put Option "BlankTime" "0" in ServerFlags |
| 00:52.08 | xfree86x | and theres no where for me to mount it because i cant find it in the /dev/ or /mnt/ folders |
| 00:52.17 | dli_ | citricoder: "ls -l /dev/dsp" |
| 00:52.35 | simonrvn | xfree86x: mkdir too fucking hard? man mkdir, mkdir --help |
| 00:52.40 | pmwilson | xfree86x: what exactly is your cheap ass "raid" controller? |
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| 00:52.54 | citricoder | dli_: bye, and thanks |
| 00:52.54 | xfree86x | it lets me connect IDE devices to it |
| 00:52.54 | Quickimaster | i only have acces to do all things i want on the server, but for instance port 8000 have to be able to have different traffic than port 8002 |
| 00:52.57 | xfree86x | and its on a pci slot on my mboard |
| 00:53.08 | xfree86x | lspci RAID bus controller: Integrated Technology Express, Inc. IT/ITE8212 Dual channel ATA RAID controller (PCI version seems to be IT8212, embedded seems (rev 11) |
| 00:53.11 | simonrvn | xfree86x: no fucking kidding |
| 00:53.20 | Guerin | Quickimaster: 1) there are saner ways of metering customers' TX/RX 2) if you don't know how to do this and can't figure it out for yourself, you should be hiring someone who does and/or can, not relying on volunteer support. |
| 00:53.22 | xfree86x | yeh im trying to explain the best i can in "detail" |
| 00:53.26 | molo | xfree86x: mkdir /mnt/hd3p1 ; mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hd3p1 |
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| 00:53.42 | pmwilson | xfree86x: yes, but what the hell is it!?!? who made it? what chipset does it use? is it supported by debian at all? do you have the right drivers? |
| 00:53.48 | Guerin | Quickimaster: this is not "free techsupp for morons who are trying to run a business when they should be reading 'Linux for Dummies' |
| 00:53.50 | dseomn | xfree86x: people know what raid is, don't bother trying to explain stuff unless it's asked |
| 00:53.53 | xfree86x | it doesnt say nothing on the box, no manufacturer etc. |
| 00:53.56 | pmwilson | molo: umh... what? hd3?? p1?? |
| 00:53.56 | AdrianLP | Anyone read about that quake near Asia killing 22,000 recently? |
| 00:54.04 | pmwilson | AdrianLP: yes. |
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| 00:54.10 | dli_ | Adrian: ask that in #asia |
| 00:54.29 | Guerin | AdrianLP: I'm in asia. Two of my closest friends flew into Manila a few hours before the quake. I haven't heard from them since. |
| 00:54.31 | nicktastic | Is wpa-supplicant integrated into the distribution? I'm seeing neither configuration files, init scripts, and the package doesn't ask me questions after install... |
| 00:54.34 | Quickimaster | i will come back later |
| 00:54.37 | AdrianLP | dli_: Why, because computer geeks don't keep up with the times? I asked here, because I was curious if people here heard of it. |
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| 00:54.43 | FieldySnuts | Guerin: :( |
| 00:54.44 | xfree86x | root@mainframe-linux:/home/aakhtar# mkdir /mnt/hd3pl |
| 00:54.44 | xfree86x | mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/hd3pl': File exists |
| 00:54.44 | xfree86x | root@mainframe-linux:/home/aakhtar# mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hd3pl |
| 00:54.44 | xfree86x | /dev/hdc1: Input/output error |
| 00:54.44 | xfree86x | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
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| 00:54.45 | jazzmans | Guerin: good luck. :( |
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| 00:54.49 | molo | pmwilson: you'r wright, i don't know the question |
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| 00:54.52 | Guerin | I think they'll be ok |
| 00:54.53 | xfree86x | root@mainframe-linux:/home/aakhtar# mkdir /mnt/hd3pl |
| 00:54.56 | xfree86x | mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/hd3pl': File exists |
| 00:54.57 | xfree86x | root@mainframe-linux:/home/aakhtar# mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hd3pl |
| 00:54.59 | xfree86x | /dev/hdc1: Input/output error |
| 00:54.59 | dseomn | xfree86x: use #flood |
| 00:55.01 | xfree86x | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 00:55.03 | FieldySnuts | +q this guy |
| 00:55.04 | Guerin | !ops |
| 00:55.04 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. EXPLAIN THE PROBLEM PLEASE. :) |
| 00:55.05 | ApEtc | xfree86x: #flood |
| 00:55.05 | FieldySnuts | @ops |
| 00:55.06 | AdrianLP | Guerin: How wide spread was it, I heard it affected a fairly large geographic area? |
| 00:55.06 | ravenbird | Meet your friendly #debian operators: asuffield, bdale, bignose, bob2`, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, Hydroxide, lilo, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. EXPLAIN THE PROBLEM PLEASE. :) |
| 00:55.09 | pmwilson | xfree86x: well, lspci obviously identified it... so go search for ITE8212 and find out what it is and how to get it to work under linux try google.com/linux |
| 00:55.09 | xfree86x | sorry |
| 00:55.11 | xfree86x | #flood |
| 00:55.11 | cafuego | xfree86x: Stop pasting! |
| 00:55.12 | MobyTurbo | Guerin: I don't think Manila was affected, the tsunami was in the Indian ocean. |
| 00:55.13 | dli_ | Adrian: so what? I'm asian |
| 00:55.13 | FieldySnuts | double ops wasn't intended |
| 00:55.20 | xfree86x | sorry |
| 00:55.21 | helix | Guerin: umm, state the problem |
| 00:55.23 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: tried that a while ago. |
| 00:55.24 | AdrianLP | dli_: So? |
| 00:55.33 | xfree86x | i have tried on google linuxquestions.org etc. |
| 00:55.37 | cafuego | MobyTurbo: We got people washed into the sea in Australia, dude |
| 00:55.39 | AdrianLP | Guerin: Do you know if it affected Korea? |
| 00:55.41 | simonrvn | xfree86x: fix your drive partitions then |
| 00:55.41 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: he's also running knoppix.... |
| 00:55.42 | xfree86x | irc.debian.org is my laast resort |
| 00:55.50 | cafuego | MobyTurbo: Mexico noticed it too |
| 00:55.50 | Guerin | AdrianLP: it affected a massive area, from the maldives and southwestern india, right across to malaysia. It was off Sumatra |
| 00:55.56 | xfree86x | they r fixed, its got ntfs on it, i have 3 drives with ntfs partition |
| 00:56.04 | cafuego | Guerin: Even Somalia |
| 00:56.04 | xfree86x | the only drive it doesnt read it the one through the ide controller |
| 00:56.10 | Guerin | AdrianLP: no, nowhere near korea; not for any real effects |
| 00:56.15 | ddfire | poeple please i need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 00:56.16 | simonrvn | you don't get an i/o error on OK drives FFS |
| 00:56.17 | KirbyMeister | xfree86x: Can you mount any of the ntfs drives? |
| 00:56.19 | AdrianLP | Guerin: Long way from Korea, as I ... nevermind you just answered. |
| 00:56.20 | FieldySnuts | @stfu ddfire |
| 00:56.22 | KirbyMeister | ddfire: just ask |
| 00:56.22 | ravenbird | SHUT THE FUCK UP ddfire! |
| 00:56.23 | xfree86x | yes |
| 00:56.25 | helix | why doesn't ravenbird's @ops have my nick in it? |
| 00:56.31 | cafuego | helix: karma? |
| 00:56.33 | simonrvn | helix: add it |
| 00:56.36 | xfree86x | the only drive i cant aces is the one through the ide controller |
| 00:56.37 | FieldySnuts | dunno, is that an editable factoid? |
| 00:56.43 | simonrvn | yes |
| 00:56.43 | xfree86x | correct me if i am rong but i do have an IDE controller right ?? |
| 00:56.45 | KirbyMeister | xfree86x: read/write or just read-only? |
| 00:56.49 | zignig | helix: bleh! |
| 00:56.51 | FieldySnuts | xfree86x: you tell us. |
| 00:56.53 | xfree86x | readonly (Cant write to ntfs) |
| 00:56.53 | helix | hey zignig |
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| 00:56.55 | pmwilson | molo: oh... sorry i misread your cmd line... didn't notice it was in /mnt instead of /dev i'd just never heard of that syntax that you made up... i always find it much easier to just call them the same thing... like /mnt/hdc1 |
| 00:56.56 | ApEtc | xfree86x: What did you buy? |
| 00:56.57 | xfree86x | but thats normal |
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| 00:56.57 | ddfire | i ask 5 times i need to put a script to run (alone) and then start x |
| 00:56.57 | KirbyMeister | xfree86x: aah. |
| 00:57.01 | Guerin | helix: sorry |
| 00:57.02 | ddfire | where i put that? |
| 00:57.03 | dseomn | xfree86x: yes, you have an IDE controller |
| 00:57.03 | xfree86x | an ide controller |
| 00:57.06 | xfree86x | thanks |
| 00:57.08 | FieldySnuts | holy cow, it's like sunday in h ere |
| 00:57.08 | KirbyMeister | xfree86x: So, you cant mount one of your drives... |
| 00:57.09 | xfree86x | as it wus 15 bux |
| 00:57.15 | cafuego | ddfire: Just add the script to ~/.xsession |
| 00:57.16 | wintix | xfree86x: are u sure that it is hdc? |
| 00:57.17 | helix | Guerin: you can do !ops the problem is foo |
| 00:57.18 | xfree86x | yes |
| 00:57.20 | Guerin | helix: that fuckwit xfree86x is being a fucking imbecile and pasting lots of shite |
| 00:57.21 | jkg | if you don't know whether you have an IDE controller or not, it's likely that you have precisely 2. |
| 00:57.22 | xfree86x | there is no hdc |
| 00:57.24 | zignig | helix: is your holiday spirally enough ? |
| 00:57.26 | xfree86x | i only have hda hdb |
| 00:57.26 | Guerin | oh really |
| 00:57.29 | xfree86x | no hdc |
| 00:57.29 | Guerin | that's cool |
| 00:57.34 | FieldySnuts | helix: ah, i didn't know that |
| 00:57.41 | Paco | does anyone know how to create a password for a new user, using the "useradd" command |
| 00:57.44 | molo | what's wrong in this line of apt-sourses?: deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main |
| 00:57.46 | helix | I don't think ravenbird does it |
| 00:57.46 | dli_ | cafuego: I think the correct answer to my problem is "BlankTime" "0" in ServerFlags |
| 00:57.50 | ddfire | [cafuego] lo pongo en ese directorio y lo ahce solo? |
| 00:57.53 | dseomn | xfree86x: are you using udev/devfs or similar? |
| 00:57.57 | cafuego | ddfire: HA! |
| 00:58.00 | FieldySnuts | okay, it's sunday here. |
| 00:58.00 | Spark | hmm im mkfs.ext3ing this hard disk, which is detected by linux to be the right size, and i believe to be partitioned correctly, and im getting absolutely thousands of ide errors to dmesg 'sector id not found', accompanied by dodgy noises from the disk, is the disk damaged? |
| 00:58.01 | zignig | Paco: have a look at 'apg' |
| 00:58.02 | cafuego | !realspanish ddfire |
| 00:58.02 | leOn | Paco: almost everyone who read the useradd man page |
| 00:58.03 | dpkg | ddfire: está usted oculto así como retardado? |
| 00:58.03 | MobyTurbo | Paco: passwd username |
| 00:58.04 | dli_ | ddfire: what's the language? |
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| 00:58.06 | xfree86x | devfs i think anyway for me to check ?? |
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| 00:58.11 | FieldySnuts | lol retardado |
| 00:58.23 | helix | that's a real word |
| 00:58.28 | FieldySnuts | neat |
| 00:58.29 | dseomn | xfree86x: I thought I told you not to use devfs |
| 00:58.33 | FieldySnuts | only one I knew :P |
| 00:58.34 | simonrvn | fixed |
| 00:58.35 | cafuego | "Are you blind as well as retarded?" |
| 00:58.35 | ddfire | [cafuego] y init.d ??? |
| 00:58.39 | xfree86x | dseomn |
| 00:58.41 | xfree86x | im stil on 2.4 |
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| 00:58.46 | cafuego | ddfire: ENGLISH, MORON |
| 00:58.51 | FieldySnuts | xfree86x and ddfire need to die |
| 00:58.52 | sussudio | cafuego: plakje ontbijtkoek? |
| 00:58.53 | ddfire | ok sorry |
| 00:58.54 | xfree86x | i recompiled 2.6 but it woulnt do sound i did sonud as modules |
| 00:58.55 | dseomn | xfree86x: I know my nick |
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| 00:59.07 | molo | what's wrong in this line of apt-sourses: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main ? |
| 00:59.08 | cafuego | sussudio: Met roomboter, ja graag. |
| 00:59.08 | dseomn | xfree86x: you have to modprobe them |
| 00:59.09 | roo9 | what firewire card would you recommend that has good linux support? |
| 00:59.19 | xfree86x | i did |
| 00:59.21 | pmwilson | Paco: try adduser --help and it'll tell you |
| 00:59.23 | xfree86x | did modconf loaded them |
| 00:59.25 | ddfire | hey7 man i am new whit linux and i am not sleeping reading manuals and i need some help came on |
| 00:59.26 | xfree86x | modprobe |
| 00:59.31 | FieldySnuts | 0000:02:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Lucent Microelectronics FW323 (rev 61) |
| 00:59.33 | FieldySnuts | that works fine for me |
| 00:59.39 | Guerin | xfree86x: ok, you have ton do the following: get a sarge installer, nuke your whole kit and start again from scratch, without trying to customise anything. |
| 00:59.44 | roo9 | FieldySnuts: what brand/model is it? |
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| 00:59.47 | FieldySnuts | if i recall right most boards are lucent based, i forget what the actual brand is |
| 00:59.52 | xfree86x | i went into my /liv/modules/linux-2.6.6/kernnel folder there was no soundcore.o i did locate yafter upadtedb |
| 00:59.54 | FieldySnuts | i dunno, and i'm not pulling out two cards just to see that |
| 01:00.02 | cafuego | FieldySnuts: Texas Instruments. |
| 01:00.06 | FieldySnuts | yeah that too |
| 01:00.07 | dseomn | xfree86x: follow Guerin's advice |
| 01:00.26 | xfree86x | ok il do that, |
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| 01:00.36 | cafuego | ohci1394 drives all but certain macs and vaios though |
| 01:00.41 | simonrvn | xfree86x: it'll be better for all of us i think |
| 01:00.49 | dseomn | xfree86x: or try ubuntu, it's easier |
| 01:00.55 | Guerin | xfree86x: this is not us being mean to you or being arseholes; the simple fact is that you clearly do not yet have the required skills to be building a custom system, a custom raid setup, or a custom kernel |
| 01:00.56 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 01:00.56 | xfree86x | no i want to stick to debian |
| 01:01.01 | helix | xfree86x: why? |
| 01:01.14 | FieldySnuts | coz someone told him it's l33t |
| 01:01.21 | xfree86x | because id rather stick to debian i donated money to it as well and i just like debian |
| 01:01.38 | helix | I like when people can't get debian to work for it but feel some kind of emotional attachment |
| 01:01.39 | pmwilson | DEBIAN IS THE LEETIST SHIT! ;o] |
| 01:01.46 | simonrvn | xfree86x: so do what Guerin said, go reinstall everything from scratch |
| 01:01.46 | cafuego | Well, with the docs and a Sarge iso you should be able to install using kernel raid. |
| 01:01.47 | FieldySnuts | hehe pmwilson |
| 01:01.48 | helix | s/it/them/ |
| 01:01.56 | xfree86x | no il stick to 2.4 it works |
| 01:02.05 | xfree86x | until i do some more rreading on kernel upgrading |
| 01:02.11 | dli_ | helix: strange, it's pretty easy to install debian :( |
| 01:02.11 | Guerin | in fairness, it IS better to stick to one thing and do it right, rather than chop and change every time you don't understand something |
| 01:02.13 | xfree86x | and trying to access drives trhough ide raid controllers |
| 01:02.23 | helix | dli_: depends on the hardware, I think. |
| 01:02.30 | pmwilson | I'm going to name my firsborn son Ian and my firstborn daughter Deborah because is it so damn leet |
| 01:02.39 | FieldySnuts | many, if not most, ide "raid" controllers are not 100% hardware, also known as fakeraid. i just picked up one today and was pissed to find out that's the case. |
| 01:02.41 | pmwilson | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.45 | FieldySnuts | f*cking false advertising. |
| 01:02.49 | cafuego | FieldySnuts: he's got a $15 pci card. |
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| 01:02.57 | FieldySnuts | i see |
| 01:03.08 | nicktastic | Any reason WPA isn't integrated into /etc/network/interfaces? It seems to me we would want to encourage users to do the right thing by requiring fewer hoops to jump through.... |
| 01:03.09 | FieldySnuts | then he'll be doing software raid, which you want a 2.6 kernel for, as it's much better there |
| 01:03.14 | cafuego | Probably a no-brand SiI 3112 or somesuch |
| 01:03.17 | pmwilson | xfree86x: you man just need to modprobe the right module... or the kernel you are using may not have compiled in the support for your card |
| 01:03.33 | FieldySnuts | yeah. the first card i picked up had a sil chip on it, an adaptec card no less. I was miffed about that. |
| 01:03.36 | xfree86x | so lsmod shows me loaded modules |
| 01:03.44 | xfree86x | modprobe lets me load modules ? |
| 01:03.48 | FieldySnuts | this guy thinks he's setting up raid and just learned about modules? |
| 01:03.50 | FieldySnuts | righto |
| 01:04.02 | dseomn | xfree86x: yes, modprobe and insmod |
| 01:04.03 | cafuego | xfree86x: 'modconf' lets you choose and load based on module type. |
| 01:04.09 | cafuego | dseomn: Not insmod. Be silent. |
| 01:04.10 | hettar | software raid is pretty damn easy to setup. |
| 01:04.12 | FieldySnuts | installing onto software raid the first time was one of the most annoying things i've ever done in linux, granted I understand it now. |
| 01:04.26 | pmwilson | xfree86x: yes... and modprobe -ls shows you all the ones on your system that are ready to be loaded |
| 01:04.27 | cafuego | FieldySnuts: the new sarge installer makes it a snap. |
| 01:04.33 | FieldySnuts | oh, that's good! |
| 01:04.38 | xfree86x | how big is the sarge isntaller |
| 01:04.40 | dseomn | cafuego: s/he wants to learn, what's wrong w/ that? |
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| 01:04.50 | FieldySnuts | dseomn: haven't been here long have you heh |
| 01:04.51 | jaclyn | is there any sort of GUI for cdrecord? |
| 01:04.54 | cafuego | dseomn: Because you NEVER run insmod. |
| 01:04.55 | dseomn | xfree86x: about 200M for minimal |
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| 01:05.12 | wintix | jaclyn: k3b is nice |
| 01:05.20 | dseomn | FieldySnuts: I've been helping xfree86x for the past 2 days |
| 01:05.21 | xfree86x | wots the max for sarge |
| 01:05.29 | xfree86x | thanks dseomn iv learnd alot in the past 2days |
| 01:05.29 | FieldySnuts | dseomn: i'm sorry. |
| 01:05.32 | dseomn | cafuego: I do run insmod |
| 01:05.37 | cafuego | xfree86x: 10 or so GB |
| 01:05.41 | xfree86x | at least i didnt fcuk my system up, and make it unbootable like alot of new users do |
| 01:05.42 | pmwilson | jaclyn: nautilus in gnome 2.6+ i think has built-in cd burning ... it probably uses cdrecord |
| 01:05.43 | Guerin | !tell xfree86x about dstats sarge |
| 01:05.48 | bucky | jaclyn, tons.. k3b for kde comes to mind |
| 01:05.50 | cafuego | dseomn: Then you should probably have the root password taken off you. |
| 01:05.52 | cafuego | !insmod |
| 01:05.52 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 01:05.56 | Guerin | grrr |
| 01:05.56 | dseomn | cafuego: that's all the packages |
| 01:06.03 | N2O | where could i found testing apt source for my sources.list ? |
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| 01:06.12 | cafuego | N2O: run 'apt-setup' |
| 01:06.14 | Guerin | N2O: apt-setup |
| 01:06.37 | wintix | N2O: www.apt-get.org |
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| 01:06.55 | cafuego | wintix: Yeah, non-official pakcgaes. GREAT idea! |
| 01:06.56 | Guerin | wintix: *bzzzzzzzt* |
| 01:07.03 | Guerin | !lose wintix |
| 01:07.04 | loco1 | please, i can't see any character in X? what should i do? |
| 01:07.04 | dpkg | wintix: You Lose. |
| 01:07.12 | pmwilson | wintix: er.. i thought apt-get.org only listed un-official sources.... why cause trouble if he doesn't need it |
| 01:07.22 | loco1 | the fonts doesn't appears |
| 01:07.27 | xfree86x | guys i have another question |
| 01:07.31 | N2O | thanks |
| 01:07.35 | FieldySnuts | heh. ocean liner |
| 01:07.36 | pmwilson | xfree86x: what a surprise |
| 01:08.02 | wintix | hehe pmwilson |
| 01:08.02 | xfree86x | what exactly is sarge is it a mini distro ? dseomn sed i was a branch of debian ? mini distro ? less packages ? |
| 01:08.02 | pmwilson | xfree86x: don't waste everyone's time... just ask |
| 01:08.08 | Guerin | xfree86x: if your question is not directly related to downloading d-i or rebooting your computer, I shall lart you |
| 01:08.09 | cafuego | xfree86x: Mini ISO, not mini DISTRO. |
| 01:08.11 | Blissex | xfree86x: questions here are welcome, this is a help channel. ask. But try to do some homework beforehand |
| 01:08.24 | Guerin | !tell xfree86x about releases |
| 01:08.26 | xfree86x | so a mini iso with less packages less apps etc. ? |
| 01:08.29 | Guerin | no |
| 01:08.38 | Blissex | xfree86x: Sarge so far is a pre-release of Debian. |
| 01:08.39 | cafuego | xfree86x: It's an installc d with a reduced number of packages, so it downloads quicker. You would add only what you need later, from online sources. |
| 01:08.51 | xfree86x | ahhh i see, thanks alot guys |
| 01:08.54 | Sazpaimon | does anyone elese here have fceu installed? |
| 01:08.54 | pmwilson | Blissex: I would think Sexbliss would be a better nick..... |
| 01:09.27 | pmwilson | Blissex: or Blissfulsex .... |
| 01:09.32 | xfree86x | i think il wait until sarge is stable b4 i download it |
| 01:09.33 | Blissex | xfree86x: when as Cafuego says comes usually packaged as an installer on a small CD. |
| 01:09.36 | xfree86x | debian 3.1 right ? |
| 01:09.47 | mrwill | yes |
| 01:09.48 | cafuego | xfree86x: Yes. 3.1 (testing) |
| 01:09.51 | hettar | cafuego: I would rather you just stabbed my radeon card. |
| 01:09.56 | cafuego | hettar: Why? |
| 01:10.02 | hettar | I hate it. |
| 01:10.04 | xfree86x | so would you say knoppix liv cd is like a branch ? |
| 01:10.06 | pmwilson | i'll try asking this one more time before compiling a new kernel.. i occasionally get a kernel oops (i.e. "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address blah..." and i've run memtest86 for like 24 hours.. what else should I look into? (2.6 kernel, perhaps i should try upgrading to the latest version?) |
| 01:10.06 | cafuego | hettar: Why? |
| 01:10.07 | xfree86x | of debian |
| 01:10.07 | Blissex | pmwilson: its actually after Blissex Walex, the engineer of the New Republic. |
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| 01:10.22 | hettar | cafuego: because Linux support for it sucks. |
| 01:10.36 | cafuego | hettar: That's exactly why I stabbed radeon users. |
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| 01:10.46 | Blissex | pmwilson: that can be then just a kernel bug, there are some especially in the latest kernels. |
| 01:10.48 | cafuego | hettar: The ones in the two laptops here work fine. |
| 01:10.48 | epall | is there an easy way to netinstall sarge using a woody install disk? |
| 01:10.54 | bucky | xfree86x, knoppix is a completely differnt distro... you might as well ask in #redhat for help |
| 01:10.58 | cafuego | epall: No, you use a sarge netinst disk. |
| 01:11.03 | epall | okay |
| 01:11.04 | epall | thx |
| 01:11.09 | xfree86x | o right ok thanks for the info, |
| 01:11.14 | mrwill | xfree86x: knoppix is not debian, geez. |
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| 01:11.17 | MobyTurbo | epall: install a minimal of woody then dist-upgrade to sarge works |
| 01:11.25 | xfree86x | so if i downloaded debian 3.0 that would be "woody" right ? |
| 01:11.30 | hettar | cafuego: This one is in my laptop and it works fine for basic 2d (if a little slow) but trying to get 3d to work just blows |
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| 01:11.37 | FieldySnuts | sussudio said he's using knoppix now anyway |
| 01:11.41 | MobyTurbo | xfree86x: correct |
| 01:11.42 | Blissex | xfree86x: there are a lot of answers to questions like you are asking on WWW.Debian.org |
| 01:11.46 | Guerin | xfree86x: yes. But you don't want to. |
| 01:11.46 | pmwilson | ... the strange thing is that it only happens on that one machine even though i installed the same kernel on two 'similar' machines (slightly different hardware) using the same k-image.deb that i created.... maybe the diff is in some of the device drivers |
| 01:11.47 | cafuego | hettar: Which model (Radeon?) |
| 01:11.53 | hettar | 9200 |
| 01:12.02 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: just /whois the bastard. |
| 01:12.06 | Blissex | pmwilson: it can be totally memory layout dependent if it is a bug. |
| 01:12.08 | xfree86x | im not using knoppix and inever said taht to anyone |
| 01:12.09 | FieldySnuts | lazy |
| 01:12.16 | MobyTurbo | xfree86x: the only reason for getting a woody install disk is if you need ppp in order to use the network. |
| 01:12.31 | cafuego | hettar: That will probably work fine for 3D with the drm-trunk X/modules or xorg. |
| 01:12.42 | xfree86x | wel do u guys no a good book that explains the whole infrastructure of linux |
| 01:12.44 | Pakal | hi, in what package the printers database si ? foomatic? |
| 01:12.48 | xfree86x | like "how" it all works and comes together |
| 01:12.48 | cafuego | hettar: Is it listed as a 9200 or as a Radeon U-something? |
| 01:12.51 | FieldySnuts | might want to learn engrish first |
| 01:12.57 | xfree86x | as an OS or some technical reference |
| 01:13.10 | Blissex | xfree86x: there are several. Some good intro books are on TLDP.org |
| 01:13.17 | MobyTurbo | xfree86x: "Running Linux", from O'Reilly |
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| 01:13.18 | Pakal | I allready installed cupsys |
| 01:13.18 | hettar | cafuego: ATI Technologies Inc RV250 5c61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 M9+] (rev 01) |
| 01:13.26 | Blissex | xfree86x: Linux people usually hold O'Reilly books in high regard. |
| 01:13.28 | pmwilson | Blissex: quite true... i'll try a slightly newer version before digging through changelogs again :o] |
| 01:14.07 | Blissex | pmwilson: note that usually bad memory (as in sig 11) happens in user level code, not inside the kernel. |
| 01:14.11 | xfree86x | il look into o'reilly |
| 01:14.13 | Guerin | xfree86x: if you can't get to a bookshop, read ... |
| 01:14.14 | jaclyn | is it possible to get a hold of the emu10k2 module and then modprobe it afterwards? |
| 01:14.20 | cafuego | hettar: yeah, xorg and drm-trunk should support that. |
| 01:14.21 | Guerin | !fundamentals |
| 01:14.21 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. This may help you to attain what others sometimes refer to as "a Clue". |
| 01:14.40 | Guerin | that ↑ |
| 01:14.41 | Blissex | pmwilson: because during a kernel compile 90% of CPU time is user mode... |
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| 01:15.12 | bucky | xfree86x, use the sarge installer, read this http://www.debian.org/doc/ and get back to me when you get all that done |
| 01:15.36 | Blissex | xfree86x: you can also ask general linux questions, especially references to intro docs, in #linuxhelp |
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| 01:15.47 | xfree86x | ok dokie iv bookmarked it and il read it all tomorow as im goign to bed, |
| 01:15.59 | xfree86x | i just want to say thankyou for your guys time and help |
| 01:16.14 | pmwilson | Blissex: of course that makes a ton of sense.... very high likelyhood a kernel bug... it juts didn't happen on the other machine ever, so i leaned towards a hardware problem... i should have known better, i'm an electrical & computer engineer... the bugs are always in the software ;o] |
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| 01:16.37 | Blissex | pmwilson: not quite! |
| 01:17.00 | Blissex | pmwilson: lots and lots of hardware out there is buggy, or buggy in combination. |
| 01:17.22 | pmwilson | I've never ever designed any buggy hardware.... |
| 01:17.24 | RememberPOL | How can i update old gtk 1.x to gtk2+ on debian woody which was dist-upgraded to sarge? |
| 01:17.26 | xfree86x | goodnight |
| 01:17.27 | Blissex | pmwilson: consider this non far fetched possibility: the bug happens because of temporary dips in power. |
| 01:18.04 | Blissex | pmwilson: when doing a compile both the CPU and the hard disk hit the power supply, but running memfree86 only hits the CPU... |
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| 01:18.29 | Blissex | pmwilson: so you get too low voltages when compiling the kernel but not when running memfree86. |
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| 01:19.05 | Blissex | pmwilson: now actually during kernel compiles the hard disk does not work that hard. But perhaps when you run memfree86 it goes to sleep. |
| 01:19.08 | js | i formatted a hd with ext3 that already had a mac filesystem, is there any way i can get my data back? |
| 01:19.09 | NormAst | Which kernel 2.6.8 or a lower one? |
| 01:19.13 | nvz | well I cleaned the laptops heatsink and fan.. maybe it was just overheating |
| 01:19.22 | Sazpaimon | has anyome here installed FCEU without problems? |
| 01:19.25 | diomedes | I installed a box last night, and my mates have decided they want to install debian today, any way i can put my apt-cache on their machines so as not have to download all the packages again |
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| 01:19.32 | Sazpaimon | I did apt-get install fceu and it seemed to install |
| 01:19.34 | nvz | then again, maybe its just being a PITA |
| 01:19.39 | Sazpaimon | but when I type in fceu ti says command not found |
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| 01:19.49 | Blissex | diomedes: the best way is to just download one ISO and burn it to one CD... |
| 01:19.55 | Guerin | diomedes: apt-move, or run apt-cacher or apt-proxy on your box |
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| 01:20.47 | pmwilson | Blissex: well, it was nice having an inteligent conversation about my issue.... i'm off to eat bye |
| 01:21.29 | diomedes | guerin I'll go read the man pages for those then i guess |
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| 01:22.34 | diomedes | crap no man pages for them |
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| 01:23.42 | Guerin | diomedes: not until you install one or more of them |
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| 01:24.00 | diomedes | ah okay not a standard part of apt |
| 01:24.01 | nvz | yeah I think the fan on the cpu might be the problem.. it was just kind stuck.. I jarred it back into working order |
| 01:24.30 | nvz | them fukin air-duster cans will give you frostbite just holding em |
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| 01:24.48 | nvz | they should come with a pair of gloves |
| 01:24.58 | addNtoX | hi folks |
| 01:25.00 | KirbyMeister | I cant get my sound to work, sometimes I get static in PCM when something plays. If I try to play an MP3 thru XMMS, XMMS locks up. (turns into a sleeping proccess) |
| 01:25.21 | KirbyMeister | I'm using ac97 via86cxxx_sound |
| 01:25.24 | nvz | KirbyMeister: did you ever check the mem/cpu usage when you play sounds? |
| 01:25.33 | KirbyMeister | nvz: I did |
| 01:25.42 | KirbyMeister | nvz: XMMS just falls asleep |
| 01:25.55 | KirbyMeister | nvz: I told you that earlier but you never responded |
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| 01:26.45 | nvz | KirbyMeister: whats important is the details.. crackling is usually a bad connection, or the hardware is too swamped to decode fastenough. |
| 01:27.03 | nvz | KirbyMeister: first of all using something less resource hungry than XMMS would be a good start |
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| 01:27.11 | nvz | KirbyMeister: like mpg321 |
| 01:27.21 | KirbyMeister | nvz: okay, let's see what I have in my system... |
| 01:27.28 | jaclyn | are all the possible names of soundcard modules supposed to be aliased with off? |
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| 01:28.29 | Blissex | jaclyn: no, only the possible soundcard top level symbolic names |
| 01:28.58 | KirbyMeister | I tried to play it in another player, and I get /dev/dsp could not be opened for writing. |
| 01:29.53 | KirbyMeister | nvz: I think it has something to do with /dev/dsp |
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| 01:30.28 | KirbyMeister | nvz? |
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| 01:31.30 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: any good reason you're not using alsa? |
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| 01:31.57 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: What's alsa? |
| 01:32.12 | KirbyMeister | I'm a GNUbie |
| 01:32.47 | Sanne | KirbyMeister: http://alsa.opensrc.org/ |
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| 01:33.19 | eugenio | hello |
| 01:33.29 | bucky | KirbyMeister, what is google ? |
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| 01:34.07 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:34.07 | KirbyMeister | bucky: Google is a search engine. |
| 01:34.17 | Sphinx | Hi ppl need some quick help on port forwarding please |
| 01:34.52 | Sanne | KirbyMeister: you might even ask out trusty bot dpkg about alsa |
| 01:35.00 | zignig | @kick cafuego |
| 01:35.19 | cafuego | @fine |
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| 01:36.04 | cafuego | say hi to the lobsters on the way down :-P |
| 01:36.19 | Cthulfuego | smj: good, my child |
| 01:36.49 | bucky | KirbyMeister, i think you might need to adduser <username> audio |
| 01:37.00 | beaufils | Any chance to make my broadcom wireless card (aka Airport extreme) run on an Apple Powerbook G4 Aluminium ? |
| 01:37.27 | Guerin | haha |
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| 01:38.40 | spowers | beaufils: no, never |
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| 01:39.06 | beaufils | spowers: any idea why ? |
| 01:39.18 | KirbyMeister | bucky, I'm already in group audio |
| 01:39.25 | js | i formatted a hd with ext3 that already had a mac filesystem, is there any way i can get my data back? |
| 01:39.41 | debian | !pat bucky |
| 01:39.45 | spowers | beaufils: same problem as using a broadcom wifi card on x86 linux -- no drivers |
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| 01:39.54 | debian | !scratch bucky |
| 01:39.55 | bucky | !hug debian |
| 01:39.59 | spowers | also you can't use driverloader on ppc |
| 01:40.02 | spowers | which is a bummer |
| 01:40.05 | debian | bucky: long time no see |
| 01:40.27 | Guerin | js: no. |
| 01:40.29 | bucky | no broadband make computing uninterestig for me |
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| 01:40.50 | KirbyMeister | bucky: I'm already in the audio group |
| 01:40.53 | bucky | KirbyMeister, i hate doing this but you could try chmod o=+rw /dev/dsp* |
| 01:40.59 | js | actually, i didn't format it, i just partitioned part of it and tried to install DebianPPC |
| 01:41.02 | Guerin | js: unless you want to pay a data recovery expert $thousands |
| 01:41.14 | diomedes | apt-cacher looks sweet, should do the job very well |
| 01:41.16 | js | nothing i can do myself |
| 01:41.28 | debian | bucky: so you've been in reallife since? |
| 01:41.35 | bucky | lol |
| 01:41.35 | KirbyMeister | bucky: chmod'ding complete... |
| 01:41.50 | KirbyMeister | bucky: Nope, still cant write to /dev/dsp0 |
| 01:42.12 | bucky | KirbyMeister, is this alsa or oss ? |
| 01:42.14 | Guerin | umm, don't chmod those deviced |
| 01:42.21 | Guerin | who told you to do that? |
| 01:42.28 | KirbyMeister | bucky: I dont know, how can I tell? |
| 01:42.38 | Guerin | it's oss |
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| 01:43.18 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: How can you tell? |
| 01:43.19 | smj | !hug smj |
| 01:43.20 | bucky | KirbyMeister, is emu10k1 loaded? |
| 01:43.27 | KirbyMeister | bucky: lemme check lsmod |
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| 01:43.46 | KirbyMeister | bucky: nope |
| 01:43.57 | Moraiat | pmwilson: guess what i broke? |
| 01:44.21 | bucky | KirbyMeister, what kind of sound card is it? |
| 01:44.34 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: OMG! You stopped the earth's core! Now we'll have to go and restart it! |
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| 01:44.43 | Moraiat | AAAGGHH! |
| 01:44.48 | KirbyMeister | bucky: It's a via82cxxx |
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| 01:44.51 | unixfool` | what do you run on an elf binary to see what it requires at runtime? |
| 01:44.51 | Moraiat | I only thought I broke my /home!!! |
| 01:44.58 | Cthulfuego | unixfool`: ldd |
| 01:45.04 | bucky | KirbyMeister, is the driver for that loaded? |
| 01:45.10 | KirbyMeister | bucky: yup |
| 01:45.15 | unixfool` | Cthulfuego: thanks! |
| 01:45.31 | kaka | the text doesn't appears under X, what can be?? (please!) |
| 01:45.51 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: I can tell because you told me earlier than via82cxxx_sound was loaded, and that's an oss module |
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| 01:46.42 | xassasin | i need lots of help |
| 01:46.57 | xassasin | can nybody help me with xebian |
| 01:46.58 | beaufils | where may I found sarge iso cd image (just want to test) ? |
| 01:46.58 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Okay, how should I go about installing ALSA, I found alsa packages in my package manager |
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| 01:47.12 | KirbyMeister | xassassin: what's your q? |
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| 01:47.17 | xassasin | oh |
| 01:47.33 | kaka | xassasin: do you really mean Xebain? |
| 01:47.38 | bucky | KirbyMeister, ls -l /dev/dsp |
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| 01:47.43 | bucky | is it there? |
| 01:47.46 | xassasin | i cant connect to the internet (mozilla) with the xbox |
| 01:47.49 | xassasin | yeah |
| 01:47.56 | KirbyMeister | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 26 14:30 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
| 01:48.01 | xassasin | xebian |
| 01:48.05 | kaka | i need help with X fonts, come can help? |
| 01:48.13 | xassasin | ? |
| 01:48.14 | kaka | some=come |
| 01:48.20 | karim | hi |
| 01:48.23 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: what kernel, what branch? |
| 01:48.27 | dli_ | kaka: apt-cache search xfonts :) |
| 01:48.30 | xassasin | can anybody help |
| 01:48.31 | KirbyMeister | bucky: i'm using bf2.4 |
| 01:48.33 | karim | how to change the default keyboard layout on tty ? |
| 01:48.53 | Guerin | !nondeb xebian |
| 01:48.54 | dpkg | Go to channel #xebian for help with xebian. If xebian were Debian, it would be called Debian and not xebian. |
| 01:48.57 | xassasin | also i need help on intsalling programs onto Xebian |
| 01:49.02 | xassasin | ah |
| 01:49.04 | xassasin | oh |
| 01:49.06 | xassasin | my b |
| 01:49.16 | kaka | dli_: i have installed a lot: xfonts-base, mstt,... |
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| 01:49.31 | Guerin | kaka: feel like telling us what the problem is? |
| 01:49.37 | kaka | dli_: 100dpi 7xdpi... |
| 01:49.39 | xassasin | this site was given in the xebian package for irc |
| 01:49.40 | msson | I was just on the Internet this afternoon on Linux, and now it's not working, yet it still works perfectly fine on my Windows machines. On Linux it appears to be some sort of DNS problem?? (I'm not sure) but it takes forever to ping something, and ends up failing, and Mozilla Firefox just says "Looking up http:/url.com" for a very long time, and then a message box will pop up saying "http://url.com/ cannot be found, etc" Any ideas as to w |
| 01:49.40 | msson | hy this may be? (DNS servers are correctly put in resolv.conf, and I changed nothing, this literally happened between one disconnect/reconnect |
| 01:49.42 | bucky | KirbyMeister, is it integrated sound and turned on in your bios? |
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| 01:50.32 | KirbyMeister | bucky: Yeah, it's integrated sound, it's on in my bios and works perfectly in windows |
| 01:50.44 | Guerin | bucky: it clearly is, otherwise the module wouldn't be loadable |
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| 01:51.20 | dli_ | KirbyMeister: best way, compile alsa into kernel :) |
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| 01:51.38 | Guerin | dli_: no. |
| 01:51.46 | KirbyMeister | dli_: You mean I have to compile a kernel? crap! |
| 01:51.57 | Guerin | dli_: not unless you're prepared to talk him through every step of building a custom kernel |
| 01:52.01 | dli_ | Guerin: why not? for newbies |
| 01:52.11 | KirbyMeister | dli_: Plus I boot the kernel off of a floppy |
| 01:52.25 | KirbyMeister | dli_: So if it breaks there goes debian |
| 01:52.55 | dli_ | Guerin: when newbies prefer to run as experts :( what can I say |
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| 01:53.15 | dark_light | dpkg ubuntu? |
| 01:53.16 | dpkg | methinks ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu |
| 01:53.34 | Guerin | dli_: you could just say nothing, unless you have something useful to say. |
| 01:53.38 | bucky | KirbyMeister, are you running woody? |
| 01:53.55 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: were you planning on answering my questions any time? |
| 01:54.09 | xassasin | i know u said that this is a debian channel but... |
| 01:54.12 | dli_ | Guerin: yes, built-in saves most alsa trouble for newbies |
| 01:54.24 | KirbyMeister | guerin: I did |
| 01:54.34 | Guerin | dli_: bullshit. |
| 01:54.35 | xassasin | can debian files be run on xebian? |
| 01:54.35 | bucky | KirbyMeister, are you running woody? |
| 01:54.41 | KirbyMeister | bucky: sarge |
| 01:54.48 | dli_ | Guerin: you could just say nothing, unless you have something useful to say. |
| 01:54.48 | Guerin | xassasin: not as far as I'm aware. |
| 01:55.02 | xassasin | aight |
| 01:55.03 | sussudio | !maint proftpd |
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| 01:55.23 | dpkg | proftpd: Francesco Paolo Lovergine <frankie@debian.org> |
| 01:55.27 | Guerin | dli_: unless you're planning on talking every newbie through ALL STEPS of rebuilding their kernel, I suggest you don't advice them to run a static alsa kernel. |
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| 01:55.33 | sussudio | !bugger Francesco Paolo Lovergine |
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| 01:55.49 | xassasin | u know in windows .exe runs programs, what runs programs in debian |
| 01:55.57 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:55.57 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you'. See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:56.03 | kaka | dli_: (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0)(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0) <<-- this, can be? |
| 01:56.04 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: jesus, you're using bf24 on woody |
| 01:56.06 | abrotman | wtf is that? |
| 01:56.07 | dli_ | sussudio: which one is better than proftpd ? |
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| 01:56.13 | Tom- | Xassasin: It doesn't work that way :-). |
| 01:56.17 | kaka | sorry, i've pasted it twise |
| 01:56.20 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: ok, is there any reason you're using woody? |
| 01:56.21 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:56.21 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you'. See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 01:56.24 | xassasin | aight |
| 01:56.26 | xassasin | thnx |
| 01:56.29 | abrotman | why is xassasin answering to ! ? |
| 01:56.30 | Guerin | !beer abrotman |
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| 01:56.33 | abrotman | Guerin: yay |
| 01:56.40 | simonrvn | xassasin: .exe *denotes* an executable in winbloze. only winbloze does that (besides mock os x, but they do .app) |
| 01:56.48 | Ausphinx | newbie here - Can someone help me out with a port forwarding q please |
| 01:56.53 | abrotman | #iptables |
| 01:57.01 | sussudio | dli_: every time proftpd is updated, i have to update-rc.d -f proftpd remove because the maintainer seems to have a problem with debian policies and just re-adds what i've removed... |
| 01:57.10 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Okay, I'm using the woody ISO. I modded my apt-get sources to grab sarge, because I burned the woody CD by accident and that was my last CD-R |
| 01:57.10 | Ausphinx | where abouts is that abrotman |
| 01:57.17 | Ausphinx | ph nvm |
| 01:57.21 | abrotman | on irc.freenode.net :) |
| 01:57.24 | Guerin | sussudio: not just proftpd; that happens with everything |
| 01:57.31 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: ok. Get thee a real kernel. |
| 01:57.44 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Where can I findeth this real kernel? |
| 01:57.51 | sussudio | Guerin: not with packages that actually check for removal... |
| 01:57.53 | KirbyMeister | And will it fit on a floppy? |
| 01:58.02 | dli_ | sussudio: I usually use ssh for friends, and apach for free fetching, don't really need ftp anyway |
| 01:58.11 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 01:58.15 | sussudio | Guerin: another package is ipmasq, which overwrites my ruleset every time it's updated. |
| 01:58.16 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: I don't know. |
| 01:58.24 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: I'll try to get it to work |
| 01:58.27 | Guerin | sussudio: file bugs against them |
| 01:58.33 | sussudio | Guerin: yeah, that'll help. |
| 01:58.46 | Guerin | sussudio: especially in the case of a firewall script, that's fucking bad |
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| 01:59.01 | Guerin | sussudio: if you patch the pre/postinst scripts it might |
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| 01:59.09 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Okay, I got a bunch of kernel images, I'm gonna try and find one for my arch |
| 01:59.13 | sussudio | Guerin: yup. it basically fucks my entire network... |
| 01:59.28 | sussudio | Guerin: i just put ipmasq on hold now. |
| 01:59.36 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: what IS your arch? |
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| 01:59.59 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: The processor is an AMD Duron, which is the 686 arch I think |
| 02:00.02 | Moraiat | My SSH is taking WAY to long for login, any ideas? The time between username entry and password entry is grotesque, even on LAN |
| 02:00.05 | bucky | KirbyMeister, if that doesn't work the only thing i can come up with after googleing for a half hour is apt-get hotplug or discover |
| 02:00.17 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: no, it's a 586 or maybe a k7 |
| 02:00.30 | karim | what is the difference between discover and hotplug ? |
| 02:00.38 | Guerin | Moraiat: ssh -vvv and see where it pauses |
| 02:00.41 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Okay. It's just that after they started using the word Pentium I got confuzzled |
| 02:01.27 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Um.. there's no 586 image on apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6, so I'm gonna try k7 |
| 02:01.42 | Moraiat | debug2: we sent a keyboard-interactive packet, wait for reply |
| 02:01.42 | Moraiat | "debug2: we sent a keyboard-interactive packet, wait for reply" |
| 02:01.46 | Moraiat | whoops...sorry |
| 02:01.48 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: yeah. You might also try the 386 kernel |
| 02:02.01 | Guerin | !k7 |
| 02:02.01 | dpkg | from memory, k7 is the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird", "Sempron" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips. |
| 02:02.06 | Guerin | ok |
| 02:02.13 | Guerin | duron is in there |
| 02:02.16 | bucky | KirbyMeister, what kind of cpu do you have? |
| 02:02.19 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Yup, it's a K7. apt-getting. |
| 02:02.24 | Guerin | bucky: try to keep up. |
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| 02:02.40 | bucky | Guerin, what does this have to do with sound? |
| 02:02.45 | dli_ | anyone got a K8 laptop running? |
| 02:02.46 | Guerin | bucky: plenty. |
| 02:02.50 | Moraiat | Guerin: what does that mean? oh my...you're helping like 3 people at once |
| 02:02.52 | kaka | dli_: (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0) <<-- i can't see the text on X, because of this? |
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| 02:02.57 | benjamindees | er, athlon xp isn't technically a i686? |
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| 02:03.16 | bucky | Guerin, this guys been in here asking the same question for three days |
| 02:03.23 | Guerin | Moraiat: -vvv means you get lots of debugging info. See what step of the connection process stalls, and go from there. |
| 02:03.27 | kaka | (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0) <<-- i can't see the text on X, because of this? (sorry, dli_) |
| 02:03.27 | bucky | so now your going to take over? |
| 02:03.33 | dli_ | kaka: I would simply disable the module in XF86Config-4, and see |
| 02:03.42 | gunstar2 | hallo, where can I change the proxy? |
| 02:03.48 | Guerin | bucky: he's clearly not had anyone competent helping him, otherwise they'd have told him to ditch his 2002-era kernel |
| 02:04.05 | Guerin | gunstar2: be more vague. We're suffering information overload here. |
| 02:04.06 | Moraiat | "debug2: we sent a keyboard-interactive packet, wait for reply" last line before the pause |
| 02:04.07 | Raf256 | how can I see name of files in given packages? |
| 02:04.17 | Guerin | Moraiat: oh, I see |
| 02:04.18 | Raf256 | like: what files (programs) are iinside loop-aes-utils packae |
| 02:04.23 | Guerin | Raf256: man dpkg |
| 02:04.27 | kaka | dli_: do you know how i see if xfs is working? |
| 02:04.42 | Guerin | Moraiat: look at the logs on the server, if you can |
| 02:04.54 | Raf256 | kaka ps aux | grep X (ot ^X$ or something) |
| 02:05.00 | Moraiat | Guerin: kay, where? |
| 02:05.02 | Raf256 | xfs |
| 02:05.25 | dli_ | kaka: I dont know. "nmap localhost"? |
| 02:05.29 | gunstar2 | sorry, I have to change my general proxy settings, but I don't know where! |
| 02:05.33 | Guerin | Moraiat: /var/log/auth.log, maybe sshd keeps another log someplace. tcpdum is also your friend. |
| 02:05.49 | Guerin | gunstar2: proxy settings FOR WHAT PROTOCOL? |
| 02:05.56 | Guerin | tcpdump, I mean. |
| 02:06.01 | bucky | Guerin, so how long have you been /away ? |
| 02:06.06 | gunstar2 | http and ftp |
| 02:06.10 | Guerin | bucky: I'm not /away |
| 02:06.15 | bucky | yes you are |
| 02:06.37 | Guerin | no, I clearly am no. |
| 02:06.50 | Guerin | 09:41:33 [freenode] -!- You are no longer marked as being away |
| 02:06.53 | kaka | Raf256: it's on... GGRRR ... i start X i can see all the windows and draws, but the text doesnt appears!, ?? |
| 02:06.57 | Guerin | that was 1.5 hours ago |
| 02:07.02 | bucky | my client says you are |
| 02:07.08 | Guerin | bucky: your client is wrong. |
| 02:07.16 | Raf256 | kaka - perhaps install fonts x-fonts-base etc |
| 02:07.38 | kaka | Raf256: let me see that |
| 02:07.59 | Guerin | !fixed font |
| 02:07.59 | dpkg | if you have a problem XFree86 it not finding 'fixed' font, see fonts.alias, or /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz, or make sure xfonts-base is installed, or purge and reinstall it, or see fontfix |
| 02:08.11 | bucky | Guerin, so you're Gumby` in #mandrake ? |
| 02:08.15 | gunstar2 | I want to load some packages with dselect but it takes the wrong proxy! |
| 02:08.16 | Guerin | bucky: no. |
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| 02:08.23 | kaka | Raf256: xfonts-base is installed, what more can be? |
| 02:08.25 | Moraiat | !dpkg tcpdum |
| 02:08.26 | Guerin | bucky: you need to get a real irc client. |
| 02:08.32 | Guerin | Moraiat: tcpdump, sorry |
| 02:08.44 | Moraiat | :P |
| 02:08.53 | dli_ | kaka: check /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 02:08.54 | Guerin | kaka: read the fucking factoid above |
| 02:08.58 | Moraiat | !dpkg tcpdump |
| 02:08.58 | dpkg | rumour has it, tcpdump is a program that lets you spy on network traffic. Also known as the bane of privacy invading software companies |
| 02:09.04 | kaka | ok dli_ |
| 02:09.11 | Moraiat | apt-get it? |
| 02:09.12 | Raf256 | where does apt-get store *.deb |
| 02:09.21 | Guerin | Raf256: man apt-get |
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| 02:09.22 | Raf256 | so that I can dpkg -c some.deb file? |
| 02:09.29 | Raf256 | Guerin- pleas |
| 02:09.29 | Guerin | Raf256: why haven't you read man dpkg yet? |
| 02:09.36 | Guerin | Raf256: you're welcome |
| 02:09.43 | Raf256 | I did and I found about dpkg -c |
| 02:09.44 | Guerin | Moraiat: yes |
| 02:09.50 | Moraiat | Guerin: any idea what i am looking for? |
| 02:09.52 | Guerin | Raf256: you found wrong |
| 02:09.58 | Guerin | Raf256: look again |
| 02:10.20 | gunstar2 | Guerin: I want to load some packages with dselect but it takes the wrong proxy! |
| 02:10.35 | Guerin | Moraiat: run it on the server, see what the server sends out when it gets that packet from the client |
| 02:10.41 | Moraiat | kay |
| 02:10.41 | Guerin | !http_proxy |
| 02:10.42 | dpkg | from memory, http_proxy is export 'http_proxy=http://PROXY:port/' -- It can be used with apt-get or lynx or wget - the trailing slash is important!, or export 'http_proxy=http://username:password@proxy:port/' if you need to authenticate |
| 02:10.45 | bucky | Guerin, so are you korean? |
| 02:10.52 | Guerin | bucky: no. |
| 02:10.58 | Guerin | bucky: why the 20 questions? |
| 02:11.01 | bucky | Guerin, military |
| 02:11.02 | kaka | dli_: Raf256: (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" does not exist. |
| 02:11.05 | kaka | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.05 | kaka | (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. |
| 02:11.05 | kaka | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:11.09 | kaka | damn!, sorry |
| 02:11.21 | Guerin | bucky: for $100 per hour I can be whatever you want me to be, baby. |
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| 02:11.32 | bucky | Guerin, i need someone competent to answer my questions |
| 02:11.41 | dli_ | kaka: how about 100dpi ? fixed ? |
| 02:11.51 | debian | bucky: lol |
| 02:11.51 | Guerin | bucky: you haven't asked me any questions |
| 02:12.08 | bucky | <Guerin> bucky: why the 20 questions? |
| 02:12.29 | Guerin | bucky: no, real questions. Not silly a/s/l questions. |
| 02:12.33 | Raf256 | omg... how to just check, |
| 02:12.37 | debian | Guerin: a/s/l? |
| 02:12.38 | Sazpaimon | how can I get my USB gamepad set up? |
| 02:12.39 | Raf256 | what executabls / commands |
| 02:12.44 | Raf256 | where installed by recent apt-get install |
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| 02:12.47 | Guerin | debian: I'm not deaf, so no. |
| 02:12.59 | Guerin | Raf256: man locate |
| 02:13.04 | Guerin | Raf256: man find |
| 02:13.20 | harry | Sazpaimon: usually you plug it in and it just works |
| 02:13.20 | Raf256 | but using apt-get / dpkg rather |
| 02:13.27 | Sazpaimon | harry, well |
| 02:13.30 | Sazpaimon | I did plug it in' |
| 02:13.34 | Guerin | Raf256: it's IN THE FUCKIGN MANUAL for apt-get |
| 02:13.34 | kaka | dli_: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o": No symbols found |
| 02:13.35 | Sazpaimon | and lsmod does read it |
| 02:13.40 | kaka | ?? |
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| 02:13.45 | Sazpaimon | however, I dont know how I can get my programs to use it |
| 02:13.49 | Sazpaimon | like FCEU |
| 02:13.56 | Sazpaimon | I cant get it to use my gamepad |
| 02:13.59 | Guerin | Raf256: and the answer to your initial question is CLEARLY in the manyal for dpkg |
| 02:14.06 | Guerin | you fucking idiot |
| 02:14.10 | dli_ | kaka: apt-get --purge and reinstall xfonts-base :) dpkg said so |
| 02:14.37 | kaka | ok |
| 02:14.40 | bucky | Raf256, you have to ask real questions. Not silly a/s/l questions. |
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| 02:14.55 | Moraiat | Guerin: tcpdump starts stuff, then goes quiet for a bit, then freaks out (lots and lots of lines) when i SSH |
| 02:14.55 | bucky | [/sarcasm] |
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| 02:15.36 | harry | Sazpaimon: does it support gamepads on linux? |
| 02:15.40 | Guerin | bucky: no. He's recieved answers to his questions. Correct, complete answers. |
| 02:15.45 | Sazpaimon | I'm pretty sure it does |
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| 02:16.05 | phildo__ | how do i _completely_ remove a package? |
| 02:16.06 | Guerin | the linux kernel does support xbox controllers |
| 02:16.09 | Sazpaimon | I did an -input1 gamepad command |
| 02:16.13 | Guerin | phildo__: man dpkg; man apt-get |
| 02:16.15 | bucky | Guerin, it's his questions that are in question here, not the answers he's received |
| 02:16.16 | harry | let me try |
| 02:16.26 | Guerin | bucky: his questions were fine. |
| 02:16.28 | Sazpaimon | Guerin, I have a Nyko airflo controller pluged into my USB port |
| 02:16.39 | Sazpaimon | not an Xbox controller |
| 02:16.48 | Guerin | never heard of one o' them |
| 02:16.49 | phildo__ | Guerin, been reading man apt-get for a while, i've only found things that half-arsed remove it.. |
| 02:16.57 | bucky | <Guerin> Raf256: it's IN THE FUCKIGN MANUAL for apt-get |
| 02:16.58 | Guerin | phildo__: you need to try harder |
| 02:17.01 | phildo__ | :D |
| 02:17.09 | Sazpaimon | its s standard PC gamepad |
| 02:17.09 | Guerin | phildo__: see my advice to Raf256 above |
| 02:17.15 | Moraiat | man, this room would be less fun if language filter was on |
| 02:17.16 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Okay, I got the new 2.6 kernel image loaded onto my floppy (it was smaller than the bf2.4 image) |
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| 02:17.21 | Raf256 | bucky- I do not see it anywhere and its 3 in the night my local time |
| 02:17.27 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: ripper. boot it. |
| 02:17.32 | Sazpaimon | is there any program I can use to set it up? |
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| 02:17.41 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Okay. See you in 5 minutes when the kernel finishes loading. |
| 02:17.46 | Guerin | heh |
| 02:17.57 | harry | Sazpaimon: no, because there's nothing to set up |
| 02:18.02 | bucky | Raf256, i was just quoting Guerin because he said your questions were fine |
| 02:18.03 | smj | Cthulfuego: The temple is ready, master. |
| 02:18.04 | Sazpaimon | bah |
| 02:18.18 | phildo__ | Guerin, perhaps i'm not trying to do the right thing.. say you apt-get install an application, then you purge the binary, how would you resurect it? |
| 02:18.18 | zakame | hi all, happy holidays again! |
| 02:18.20 | harry | Sazpaimon: it's a problem with fceu, i'm trying it right now. |
| 02:18.20 | Moraiat | Guerin:remind me again what i'm looking for... i get lots of SSH requests but not so much errors or the like |
| 02:18.28 | Sazpaimon | ah |
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| 02:18.33 | Moraiat | !christmas |
| 02:18.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, christmas is the feast for the birth of Jesus Christ our Savior, or commercialised, or on December 25th. unless you aren't christian, when christmas is an opportunity to screw dumb christians for lots of money, or nono, this is all wrong, christmas is on December 24th |
| 02:18.39 | Guerin | phildo__: purge it how? |
| 02:18.40 | Sazpaimon | so is there any other NES emulator you'd reccomend? |
| 02:18.45 | phildo__ | rm. |
| 02:18.48 | rdancer | should Czech keyboard layout be labelled `cz' (country code) or `cs' (language code)? |
| 02:18.51 | Moraiat | HOLY HELL WHAT THE #@$@ JUST HAPPENED TO MY MONITOR!!! |
| 02:18.58 | smj | So, anyone have any idea why /media/cdrom0 keeps getting removed every time I reboot? I think discover is causing it, but have no idea beyond that. |
| 02:18.59 | Guerin | Moraiat: I'm wondering if the sshd is trying to look up the client's reverse dns |
| 02:19.04 | Moraiat | oh...screen saver.. @#$@ |
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| 02:19.08 | Guerin | hahah |
| 02:19.10 | debian | Moraiat: hahaha |
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| 02:19.18 | kaka | is there some replacement for xfs ?? |
| 02:19.21 | phildo__ | Guerin, rm. |
| 02:19.25 | Guerin | !qotd80 |
| 02:19.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, qotd80 is <toresbe> Holy shit! <toresbe> My Ultra 1 is streaming kernel panics! <toresbe> oh crap - It's the BSOD screensaver <toresbe> I fall for that motherfucker every time |
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| 02:19.28 | debian | kaka: jfs |
| 02:19.29 | bucky | Moraiat, merry christmas |
| 02:19.31 | zakame | I'm getting purge errors on purging freenet6 2.1.1-2... seems to remove /etc/freenet6, even if that's scrapped, purge fails with error code 20. Any ideas? |
| 02:19.35 | dli_ | kaka: I don't think it's an xfs problem :( |
| 02:19.36 | Guerin | phildo__: NEVER remove a specific file. |
| 02:19.36 | rdancer | smj: because you use devfs and you didn't tell devfsd to recreate it on every boot? |
| 02:19.53 | phildo__ | Guerin, agreed, it wasnt me ;) |
| 02:19.57 | dli_ | kaka: dpkg --purge xfs, and reinstall, anyway |
| 02:19.59 | rdancer | !tell zakame about eror |
| 02:20.01 | Guerin | phildo__: ALWAYS use dpkg and apt-get to remove packages in full. It is possible. RETF and look for 'purge' |
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| 02:20.17 | smj | rdancer: I don't have devfs or udev installed. I'm running Sarge. |
| 02:20.24 | Sazpaimon | harry, what other NES emulators can let me use my gamepad? |
| 02:20.57 | rdancer | smj: then chattr +i /dev/cdrom0 ;-) |
| 02:20.58 | harry | Sazpaimon: i don't now. i'm not sure fceu can't use a joypad, it's just not clear how to do it. i don't use any nes emulator, so i can't recommend one. |
| 02:21.03 | Moraiat | Guerin: umm...how do i check for that (i am noob...hear me ask) |
| 02:21.14 | Sazpaimon | beh |
| 02:21.15 | kaka | damn |
| 02:21.17 | kaka | ok |
| 02:21.19 | zakame | rdancer: ? |
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| 02:21.23 | kaka | ell install all again |
| 02:21.24 | usuario | ls |
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| 02:21.34 | Guerin | Moraiat: I think someone fixed it by putting 'search 127.0.0.1' in their /etc/hosts file |
| 02:21.34 | kaka | bye thanks |
| 02:21.40 | Guerin | but I don't know |
| 02:21.50 | smj | rdancer: That will help my /media/cdrom0 directory? |
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| 02:22.17 | usuario | I decided to manual install packages on my fresh deb install and apt-getted kde and kdm, now how do I boot into my system? I get an error about not "X" found in PATH |
| 02:22.35 | Guerin | usuario: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 02:22.40 | Moraiat | Guerin: IC, there was some issues with routers and static ip's on my network before, I think the host cache's need an enema or something...how/which ones? |
| 02:22.47 | usuario | Guerin thanks |
| 02:22.59 | Guerin | Moraiat: I don't know how your network is set up. |
| 02:23.13 | gunstar2 | hallo, still can't change my proxy to get packages with deselect |
| 02:23.24 | usuario | Guerin odd, why didn't KDE demand it? |
| 02:23.37 | Guerin | usuario: because kde doesn't need a local x server |
| 02:23.40 | gunstar2 | sorry, meant dselect |
| 02:23.59 | Guerin | usuario: like any X client application, it can be run on a remote x server |
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| 02:24.07 | deadcat | finally decided to config libapache-gallery-perl, nice, just what i needed |
| 02:24.22 | Moraiat | it's a bottle of spiced vodka |
| 02:24.25 | rdancer | smj: that will make it unremovable, provided it's on an ext2/ext3 filesystem. whether that's what you want, is beyond me. somehow something got fscked up, that's all I can tell from the info you gave |
| 02:24.25 | Guerin | I think it looks like a fucked hosts file |
| 02:24.28 | Guerin | heh |
| 02:24.45 | Moraiat | or a bawls if you don't drink |
| 02:24.48 | Guerin | gunstar2: why not? |
| 02:24.55 | Guerin | oh, I drink alright |
| 02:25.00 | phildo__ | Guerin, purge doesnt murder the application enough, apt-get install doesnt put the binary back :( |
| 02:25.16 | gunstar2 | I still don't know, where to change... |
| 02:25.21 | usuario | Guerin thank you very kindly |
| 02:25.24 | Moraiat | hmm bawls+vodka = ? |
| 02:25.25 | smj | rdancer: Well, thanks. I just noticed that my /media/cdrom0 directory goes missing with every reboot. I have two Debian Sarge boxen and this is the only one it happens on. |
| 02:25.29 | Guerin | phildo__: what doesn't purge do that you want it to? |
| 02:26.09 | phildo__ | Guerin, remove all traces of the package, so apt-get install will go and fetch it as it did before it was installed. |
| 02:26.10 | smj | rdancer: What brought my attention to it was the fact that I could not mount a CDRom when I wanted to (don't do that often with Linux, getting data is what the network is for mostly). |
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| 02:26.39 | Guerin | phildo__: the only things it doesn't remove are any files YOU made. |
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| 02:27.57 | smj | rdancer: So, I wondered why it was getting removed and grepped /etc for the terms '/media' and 'cdrom0'. I came across /etc/init.d/discover which removes these directories if there is no entry in /proc/mounts for them, which is what I think is causing it to remove /media/cdrom0. |
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| 02:29.02 | TheTom | do i hva to do any tricks du het my mic working in debian? |
| 02:29.04 | phildo__ | Guerin, why does "apt-get --purge remove app && apt-get install app" not replace the binary then? |
| 02:29.09 | TheTom | s/hva/have |
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| 02:29.30 | smj | rdancer: I'm really wondering what it is I could have done that caused it to do this. |
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| 02:30.06 | Guerin | phildo__: what does dpkg -L packagename | grep bin/binaryname yield? |
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| 02:30.44 | Guerin | TheTom: you have to unmute the right channels in your mixer, etc. |
| 02:30.56 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: you weren't kidding. |
| 02:31.07 | gunstar2 | I used a script till now for my proxys, where can I change this? |
| 02:31.12 | KirbyMeister | Ugh. I installed the 2.6 kernel into my bootdisk, and then it refused to mount my root partition |
| 02:31.24 | tsilva | Can anyone help configure my usb printer? I don't know how to do that! |
| 02:31.28 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: did you tell lilo where its initrd is? |
| 02:31.38 | Guerin | tsilva: linux-printing.org |
| 02:31.40 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: No, the floppy uses SYSLINUX |
| 02:31.49 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: ok, I know nothing about that |
| 02:32.26 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: why are you having to boot off floppy? |
| 02:32.31 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Parents |
| 02:32.40 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: ? |
| 02:32.43 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: They would get confused even if they got a boot menu |
| 02:33.02 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: so? |
| 02:33.13 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: They would think we've been hacked |
| 02:33.21 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: Let them be confused, they'd get over it. |
| 02:33.37 | Moraiat | they'd be confused if you changed the background |
| 02:33.39 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: write a little informational message from teir little Kirby into the grub boot screen... |
| 02:33.40 | TheTom | i Guerin yeah i know. but i don't remember what mixer. i've tried kmixer . but it did couple of days ago when i did it another mixer. aumixer? not that but something similar. i can't remember now, i'm stoned, but i thought maybe someone who isn't or someone who is could help me? |
| 02:34.01 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Okay, I'll just make it boot into windows after 2 seconds |
| 02:34.08 | Guerin | TheTom: how the fuck should I know what mixer you have? |
| 02:34.16 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: yeah, exactly |
| 02:34.31 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Okay, now to figure out how the heck to install grub |
| 02:34.36 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: this whole booting off floppy thing is for the birds. It's nearly 255 already... |
| 02:34.39 | Guerin | 2005 |
| 02:34.42 | Guerin | I mean |
| 02:34.50 | Moraiat | it's almost 2006.... |
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| 02:34.56 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Okay. I'll install GRUB. |
| 02:34.56 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: boot to any kernel you like |
| 02:35.51 | TheTom | Guerin: maybe someone here know the names of a couple of mixers and could tip me about them so i can try it out and het it to work. am not asking you exclusively. merry fucking christmas to you to |
| 02:35.52 | tsilva | How can I install gpg-agent under sarge? I tried to find the package under the repositories but the couldn't find it |
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| 02:36.06 | jetscreamer | 2.6 needs an initrd i think, and iirc it's too big to fit on the floppy... but i know nothing. |
| 02:36.14 | Brendon_ | would not loading the GLX extention for nvidia cards cause a system to lock up after a period of time? |
| 02:37.30 | RichiH | nvz: re |
| 02:38.02 | rdancer | smj: you can boot to singleuser mode, and run the scripts of the given runlevel one-by-one. or you can grep for some clever regex in /etc/init.d/* |
| 02:38.06 | Guerin | TheTom: find /usr/bin |grep mix |
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| 02:38.55 | csabo2 | Guerin have you heard of anyone having a problem with the d-i installer not installing grub correctly? |
| 02:39.02 | Guerin | csabo2: no. |
| 02:39.15 | Guerin | csabo2: #debian-boot might have |
| 02:39.20 | csabo2 | ok thanks |
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| 02:39.41 | nvz | I swear I just scp'd a 1.5gb or so tar file to this pc, and I dont see it |
| 02:39.52 | smj | rdancer: Guess I'll do #2 to start. Thanks anyway. :-) |
| 02:39.55 | gunstar2 | I used a script till now for my proxys, where can I change this? |
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| 02:39.59 | Moraiat | nvz: locate? |
| 02:40.03 | Moraiat | nvz: updatedb? |
| 02:40.12 | nvz | I scp'd it to my homedir |
| 02:40.16 | Guerin | gunstar2: /msg dpkg http_proxy |
| 02:40.20 | nvz | I just dont see ith there |
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| 02:40.24 | rdancer | nvz: find! |
| 02:40.35 | nvz | find isnt going to find it, if its not there :P |
| 02:40.36 | rdancer | nvz: command history! |
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| 02:40.47 | nvz | the machine I scp'd from is gone |
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| 02:41.00 | Moraiat | from the tsunami? |
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| 02:41.10 | nvz | I only have write access to my homedir, it couldnt have gone anywhere else |
| 02:41.11 | Guerin | nvz: maybe it didn't finish and is sitting in /tmp or something |
| 02:41.11 | gunstar2 | there is no /msg |
| 02:41.16 | Cwiiis | Hi all - I was just wondering something about sysfs... When I plug in a USB input device, none of the information pertaining to the usb device (product id, vendor id, etc.) is parsed to the created event device - So if I have the path in sysfs for an event device, I can't get any useful information from it - I don't think that's how it should be, can anyone set me right? |
| 02:41.22 | Guerin | gunstar2: there most assuredly is |
| 02:41.22 | deadcat | don_inlab: libapache-gallery-perl is rock'in here. (= |
| 02:41.30 | Guerin | fuckyeah |
| 02:41.37 | Guerin | libapache-gallery-perl is awesome |
| 02:41.50 | nvz | I havent looked in /tmp yet, but considered it.. I already wiped out the machine I copied it from.. it completed on that end a long time ago |
| 02:41.55 | rdancer | nvz: find / -ctime -1 |
| 02:42.06 | gunstar2 | where schould it be? |
| 02:42.06 | rdancer | nvz: $TEMP |
| 02:42.07 | deadcat | Guerin: ya. dont have to click here to gen images. just mv *.jpg HAHAH |
| 02:42.37 | Guerin | deadcat: yeah. And everything else - rotation, captions, etc. Is done with textfiles and easily scriptd |
| 02:42.39 | deadcat | Guerin: where do i change the "Index of:" ? |
| 02:42.49 | nvz | rdancer: seems to be null |
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| 02:42.53 | hettar | wow. You learn something every day. I just found out about lndir. I wish I had known about it ages ago. |
| 02:42.55 | Guerin | deadcat: in the httpd.conf: read the doc |
| 02:43.04 | rdancer | !lose nvz |
| 02:43.05 | dpkg | nvz: You Lose. |
| 02:43.08 | deadcat | Guerin: oh. |
| 02:43.14 | deadcat | hehe doc was too long. |
| 02:43.20 | deadcat | so i read the README.debian instead |
| 02:43.31 | Guerin | fair enough |
| 02:43.49 | csabo2 | Guerin do you happen to have a link to read about the xfs , it doesnt make much sense to me |
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| 02:44.04 | deadcat | Guerin: what caption you talking about? like "this is me doing something!" ? how? |
| 02:44.08 | Guerin | csabo2: what about the xfs? |
| 02:44.13 | Guerin | deadcat: RTFM |
| 02:44.18 | deadcat | arg |
| 02:44.20 | deadcat | ok |
| 02:44.25 | Moraiat | !rtfm |
| 02:44.25 | dpkg | i heard rtfm is Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] |
| 02:44.25 | nvz | oh well |
| 02:44.34 | Guerin | deadcat: a textfile in the same dir called nameofpicture.caption or something |
| 02:44.41 | nvz | thats what I dont make backups for :P |
| 02:44.48 | Guerin | nvz: :( |
| 02:44.49 | csabo2 | mainly the structure |
| 02:45.02 | csabo2 | i dont get why theres so many directories and i wanted to read about it, didnt find too much on google |
| 02:45.17 | Guerin | csabo2: I have no idea what you're on about. Please specify which xfs you're rferring two - there are about three. |
| 02:45.26 | nvz | that was my backup for the most part.. luckily it wansnt important |
| 02:45.27 | jetscreamer | !random 4 |
| 02:45.37 | csabo2 | i dont know which then |
| 02:45.47 | nvz | cause I think it dissapeared on the network |
| 02:45.50 | csabo2 | i just know i have no clue why there are 200 folders on my hd |
| 02:45.50 | deadcat | Guerin: cool. |
| 02:45.52 | deadcat | than ks |
| 02:45.57 | csabo2 | i cant find where anythings installed too |
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| 02:45.58 | Guerin | !shoot Guerin's typist |
| 02:46.00 | rdancer | nvz: 1.5G? hardly |
| 02:46.08 | Guerin | !fundamentals |
| 02:46.08 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. This may help you to attain what others sometimes refer to as "a Clue". |
| 02:46.11 | Moraiat | !4+4 |
| 02:46.11 | dpkg | 8 |
| 02:46.14 | Guerin | csabo2: ↑ |
| 02:46.15 | Moraiat | awesome |
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| 02:46.30 | Moraiat | !4*4/4-4+4 |
| 02:46.30 | dpkg | 4 |
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| 02:46.50 | rdancer | Moraiat: /msg dpkg <whatever> |
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| 02:46.55 | jetscreamer | a folder. i buy folders at office depot myself, where do you buy yours? |
| 02:46.58 | nvz | rdancer: "scp home.tar 10.0.0.12:/home/nvz/" is what I typed, it was probably over 2gb.. waited for like 45min for it to copy, and on 10.0.0.12 in /home/nvz/ there doesnt seem to be a home.tar |
| 02:46.59 | Moraiat | nah, im done |
| 02:47.13 | scarynetworkguy | jetscreamer: Staples. |
| 02:47.16 | Flimzy | Is there any way to merge multiple FLAC files into a single FLAC file without decoding then re-encoding the files? |
| 02:47.29 | Moraiat | jetscreamer: I only fold in the blood of my enemies! |
| 02:47.37 | rdancer | nvz: you have search permission on / & /home ? |
| 02:47.39 | Guerin | Flimzy: using vorbis-tools, probably |
| 02:47.39 | Moraiat | in sarge voice... |
| 02:47.52 | Guerin | Flimzy: there are splitting/joining utilities |
| 02:47.57 | nvz | rdancer: of course |
| 02:48.05 | Flimzy | Guerin: ogmmerge works for .ogg files... but doesn't recognize .flac files |
| 02:48.08 | Guerin | Flimzy: but for laughs, try just catting them together - it might work |
| 02:48.12 | rdancer | nvz: anyway, it would err out. you must've deleted it somewhen in between or after |
| 02:48.15 | Flimzy | Guerin: Yeah, I tried that, too. |
| 02:48.25 | Flimzy | Guerin: The media player only recognizes the data in the first original file |
| 02:48.25 | Guerin | Flimzy: that utility isn't in vorbis-tools, is it? |
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| 02:48.48 | nvz | rdancer: I really dont see how.. it completed on the laptop, and I erased the hd, then I just now came on here to find it, and its nowhere to be found |
| 02:49.03 | Guerin | Flimzy: it'd be easy enough to script |
| 02:49.03 | Flimzy | Guerin: It's in ogmtools, actually |
| 02:49.12 | rdancer | Flimzy: did you try cat(1) ? |
| 02:49.18 | Flimzy | rdancer: yes |
| 02:49.18 | Guerin | rdancer: try to keep up |
| 02:49.52 | MagusXI | I am having a problem, i compiled a kernel, everything went fine, i boot into new kernel everything went fine, booted up gdm, well my mouse doesnt work, nor does my keyboard.....did i miss something in the kernel, i remember putting ps/aux as a module and enableing ps/2 support, |
| 02:50.07 | csabo2 | which kernel? |
| 02:50.14 | MagusXI | 2.6.10-rc3 |
| 02:50.18 | Guerin | MagusXI: why did you build a new kernel?? |
| 02:50.25 | Guerin | MagusXI: especially one which is obsolete |
| 02:50.30 | Flimzy | Guerin: Looks like only 6 binaries in vorbis-tools... ogg123 (which doesn't recognize flacs, either), oggdec, oggenc, ogginfo, vcut, and vorbiscomment... the last 5 being completely irrelevant to the task at hand. heh |
| 02:50.30 | deadcat | Guerin: i dont see where to edit the 'Index of:', i am reading the readme.gz file |
| 02:50.35 | MagusXI | obsolete? |
| 02:50.47 | Tom- | Magus: Have you gotten a 2.6 kernel working before? |
| 02:50.48 | MagusXI | i thought kernel 2.6.10-rc3 was the newest? |
| 02:50.49 | Guerin | hrm, odd |
| 02:50.59 | csabo2 | MagusXI Guerin is about the biggest jerk, but he can help, just ignore his attitude |
| 02:51.00 | MagusXI | i have 2.6.8 right now |
| 02:51.09 | MagusXI | ok |
| 02:51.26 | rdancer | csabo2: jerk??? |
| 02:51.27 | Guerin | MagusXI: 2.6.10 proper was released a couple days ago; if you MUST build a kernel, build that. |
| 02:51.28 | MagusXI | i googled and followed the instructions to compiling a new 2.6 kernel |
| 02:51.28 | Tom- | Magus: Did you leave out the mousedev, serio, or other "input" modules? |
| 02:51.37 | MagusXI | ok |
| 02:51.40 | Moraiat | corn! |
| 02:51.48 | MagusXI | il download 2.6.10 |
| 02:51.51 | Guerin | MagusXI: but basically, what you should do is look at the difference between a working kernel config, and a non-working one |
| 02:51.55 | rdancer | Guerin: you sure 10-final isn't rc3 |
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| 02:51.59 | csabo2 | yes its final |
| 02:52.03 | csabo2 | went final 3 days or so ago |
| 02:52.12 | Guerin | rdancer: as of dec24, apparently |
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| 02:52.18 | MagusXI | ya i used my current kernel config from /boot |
| 02:52.24 | MagusXI | as a starting point |
| 02:52.26 | Flimzy | Guerin: 'flac' has an option to output OGG-encapsulated FLAC files... but as far as I can tell, 'flac' is the only program in the world that knows how to read such a file. XMMs, ogg123, ogmmerge, etc, think the resulting .ogg files are bogus. |
| 02:52.30 | Guerin | it might be the same source, but I dunno |
| 02:52.31 | MagusXI | but i disabled alot of things i didnt need |
| 02:52.40 | Tom- | Magus: I dunno then |
| 02:52.41 | csabo2 | well |
| 02:52.44 | Guerin | Flimzy: hrm, interesting. |
| 02:52.45 | csabo2 | try renabling them |
| 02:52.48 | csabo2 | and seeing what happens |
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| 02:53.10 | MagusXI | ok il try setting ps/aux and ps/2 as modules and not as built in |
| 02:53.31 | Tom- | I'm using built-in right now on 2.6.10 |
| 02:53.40 | Guerin | Flimzy: At this point I'd figure out how to concatenate wave files together using sox or something, and then script decoding the flacs to wave, catting them together and re-encoding them as flac |
| 02:53.45 | Tom- | I don't know what to recommend |
| 02:54.10 | Guerin | Flimzy: it's wasteful of cpu time, but it'll work |
| 02:54.25 | Flimzy | Guerin: Yeah, I could do that... but that would completely violate the purpose of what I'm doing... :) (Which is to encode a large .WAV file into several smaller chunks, then append them to each other _after_ encoding) |
| 02:54.25 | Guerin | MagusXI: just look at a working kernel config and emulate it. |
| 02:54.36 | Guerin | Flimzy: ah, right. |
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| 02:54.40 | rdancer | 10-final is 10-rc3-final, afaict |
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| 02:55.29 | MagusXI | ok |
| 02:55.32 | MagusXI | well thank you guys |
| 02:55.32 | Flimzy | Guerin: This would allow encoding to take place on multiple CPUs if necessary... and more importantly, would allow for better error control (i.e. a single error in the encoding process would not necesetate re-encoding the entire stream) |
| 02:55.35 | MagusXI | peace out |
| 02:55.44 | Guerin | yeah, absolutely. |
| 02:55.50 | Area-51 | what package is the program "play" in for simply playing wavs and such? (debian testing, kernel 2.6.8 custom) |
| 02:55.56 | Guerin | Area-51: sox |
| 02:56.11 | Area-51 | Guerin: thanks mate :) |
| 02:56.15 | Guerin | maaaate |
| 02:56.31 | Area-51 | hehe |
| 02:56.35 | Flimzy | Area-51: Note that what kernel you're running has absolutely nothing to do with what is contained in the packages on the Debian servers |
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| 02:57.17 | Guerin | Flimzy: i wonder if just chopping the headers out of flac files might mean you can cat them together |
| 02:57.17 | Area-51 | Flimzy: i know, but ive gotten in the habbit of adding that to all the linux questions i ask :) |
| 02:57.34 | Flimzy | Guerin: I dunno |
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| 02:57.59 | Moraiat | how do i make lilo go away with out removing the files? |
| 02:58.40 | csabo2 | well |
| 02:58.45 | csabo2 | you could install grub lol |
| 02:59.00 | csabo2 | other than that i dont konw |
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| 02:59.19 | Guerin | Moraiat: why would you want to? |
| 02:59.21 | Tom- | Moraiat: Exactly what do you mean "go away" if you don't want to remove the files? |
| 02:59.32 | csabo2 | i think he means not use it as a boot loader |
| 02:59.40 | Moraiat | Guerin: grub! |
| 02:59.52 | Moraiat | Tom-: so that it loads grub instead of lilo |
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| 02:59.53 | Phated | It's not going to go away if the files are still there... |
| 03:00.08 | Moraiat | Phated: what if they aren't referenced? |
| 03:00.10 | Phated | Backup configs, apt-get remove, install grub, I guess. |
| 03:00.15 | Tom- | Moraiat: I think you just have to tell Grub to clobber the master boot record |
| 03:00.16 | Moraiat | csabo2: yup |
| 03:00.33 | Moraiat | Tom-: trulies? well then a apt-getting i will go |
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| 03:00.39 | Guerin | Moraiat: apt-get remove --purge lilo grub+ grub-doc+ |
| 03:00.53 | houdinix | hi |
| 03:00.55 | Tom- | Moraiat: I dunno about trulies.. |
| 03:00.58 | Guerin | Moraiat: then grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub |
| 03:01.14 | Moraiat | should i get my knoppix disk ready? |
| 03:01.31 | Guerin | Moraiat: you should always have something bootable handy; this does nothing to change that |
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| 03:01.46 | Moraiat | Guerin: more handy, like...in my hand |
| 03:01.51 | csabo2 | lol |
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| 03:02.06 | daft_ | Guerin: isnt it wiser to keep it with the basic apt-get commands with out + and - or else they are comming back :p |
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| 03:02.07 | simonrvn | handy in the hand :) |
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| 03:02.23 | houdinix | I've got a cd burner(hdc) and a dvd burner(hdd) I don't know how to configure my append line in lilo.conf ( append="hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi ignore=hdd,hdc" ?) |
| 03:02.27 | nvz | hmm I found my file.. on the wrong box :/ |
| 03:02.48 | Moraiat | nvz: see! I told you it went for a walk |
| 03:03.04 | jaclyn | is there a way to get totem to 'play disc' different discs than /dev/hdc ? |
| 03:03.06 | Guerin | daft_: probably |
| 03:03.09 | jaclyn | er in totem! |
| 03:03.13 | nvz | heh, it went to the fileserver |
| 03:03.19 | jaclyn | oh wait I said totem. |
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| 03:03.27 | daft_ | houdinix: look at the example config |
| 03:03.35 | glick | excuse me does anyon know how i can playu wmv files in debian? |
| 03:03.37 | glick | using xine |
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| 03:03.52 | scarynetworkguy | glick: Install the right codec. |
| 03:03.54 | daft_ | houdinix: /usr/share/doc/lilo/example |
| 03:03.55 | Tom- | Houdinix: Are you using a stock Debian kernel? If so, ide-scsi is a module and you don't use lilo |
| 03:03.55 | houdinix | daft_: I've do it, but didn't find anythings :/ |
| 03:04.06 | glick | scarynetworkguy, where do i install it to? |
| 03:04.20 | houdinix | daft_: I look this file ... |
| 03:04.30 | daft_ | past in #flood if you want to past |
| 03:05.22 | houdinix | daft_: there is no line about append in this file |
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| 03:05.36 | daft_ | append isnt used |
| 03:05.45 | houdinix | daft_: no |
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| 03:05.52 | daft_ | houdinix: one moment |
| 03:06.03 | tsilva | how can I install gpg-agent? |
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| 03:06.54 | Gumby` | anyone here ever mounted a rca lyra mp3 player in linux? looking for what filesystem it might be |
| 03:06.59 | scarynetworkguy | glick: /usr/lib/win32 |
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| 03:07.12 | TheTom | Gumby`: tried fat32 |
| 03:07.25 | TheTom | ? |
| 03:07.36 | daft_ | houdinix: sorry was mixing up difrent booters |
| 03:07.46 | houdinix | daft_: np :) |
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| 03:08.30 | morner | hmmm |
| 03:08.42 | KirbyMeister | now, how to figure out how to install GRUB... |
| 03:08.50 | morner | i've been a bit behind on kernel upgrades, just booted into 2.6.9 today |
| 03:09.08 | morner | cehcked fglrx-for-debian, saw there was a new version available |
| 03:09.16 | morner | (ati graphics card in this machine) |
| 03:09.25 | simonrvn | weird, dh_gencontrol -i got skipped ... |
| 03:09.30 | Guerin | Flimzy: http://stommel.tamu.edu/~baum/linux-music.html#mp3splt might be some sue |
| 03:09.32 | Guerin | use |
| 03:09.36 | morner | so i decided to upgrade that too |
| 03:09.55 | morner | however, i get a few errors in the build |
| 03:09.57 | morner | FGLRXExtensions.c:12:34: X11/extensions/XTest.h: No such file or directory |
| 03:09.58 | morner | FGLRXExtensions.c:16:35: X11/extensions/record.h: No such file or directory |
| 03:10.05 | morner | and then it fails |
| 03:10.35 | morner | so i guess my question is: does anyone know what's wrong with fglrx-installer-3.14.6? |
| 03:10.38 | Guerin | glick: get w23codecs from marillat |
| 03:11.09 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: I'm confused: How do you chainload the windows bootloader? |
| 03:11.19 | jetscreamer | you don't need to |
| 03:11.22 | csabo2 | what do you mean by chainload? |
| 03:11.25 | glick | can i just get the deb and install the single deb? |
| 03:11.29 | KirbyMeister | csabo2: For GRUB |
| 03:11.36 | jetscreamer | have a loader load a loader... chainload |
| 03:11.41 | csabo2 | oh |
| 03:11.49 | csabo2 | why would you want too/ |
| 03:11.57 | jetscreamer | KirbyMeister, man lilo.conf, scroll all the way down..... |
| 03:11.57 | KirbyMeister | csabo2: To load my Windows |
| 03:12.07 | csabo2 | i dont think its possible to have 2 different loaders in your MBR |
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| 03:12.19 | csabo2 | KirbyMeister grub can add windows to the list.. |
| 03:12.21 | jetscreamer | KirbyMeister, it's almost just like loading different kernels |
| 03:12.36 | KirbyMeister | Yeah, but I need to know, where do I put the existing bootloader |
| 03:12.40 | JB318 | Is there a way to tell the size of the journal on an ext3 filesystem? |
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| 03:13.02 | KirbyMeister | How do I get it from the MBR, and where do I put it? |
| 03:13.03 | daft_ | good thing whit grub is that you can boot manualy when you screw your boot list |
| 03:13.10 | Moraiat | AAGH CRAZY LETTERS! |
| 03:13.20 | jetscreamer | KirbyMeister, i know you want grub, but you just put lilo in the mbr and do the lilo.conf thing, and windows just loads |
| 03:13.23 | daft_ | oO |
| 03:13.31 | jetscreamer | daft hit tab in lilo sometime |
| 03:13.39 | Moraiat | okay, now i got grub running (ish) |
| 03:13.46 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: you don't. |
| 03:13.46 | Moraiat | how do i point it to my 2k drive? |
| 03:13.55 | jetscreamer | you don't get it from the mbr |
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| 03:13.58 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: you just install grub on the mbr and be happy |
| 03:14.03 | jetscreamer | you install it to the mbr |
| 03:14.09 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: No, I need to run Windows as well |
| 03:14.18 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: you can do that using grub. |
| 03:14.19 | jetscreamer | KirbyMeister, you're not paying attention i see |
| 03:14.21 | daft_ | is there a command line in lilo, why has never some one told me |
| 03:14.26 | csabo2 | KirbyMeister i allready told you |
| 03:14.41 | jetscreamer | man lilo |
| 03:14.42 | Guerin | daft_: why should people tell you? You have the same documentation as anyone else. |
| 03:14.43 | csabo2 | grub will add any windows installs during its setup |
| 03:15.06 | Guerin | csabo2: ideally. It doesn't always work in practice, but it can easily be done manually |
| 03:15.06 | daft_ | Guerin: when they tell my why i run lilo insted of grub |
| 03:15.15 | jetscreamer | so will lilo with liloconfig |
| 03:15.16 | csabo2 | Guerin true i had to manually add mine |
| 03:15.22 | csabo2 | i went and bought a linux book last night |
| 03:15.28 | Guerin | csabo2: yay! |
| 03:15.29 | csabo2 | after i left |
| 03:15.30 | csabo2 | lol |
| 03:15.45 | csabo2 | then i fdisked and started over |
| 03:15.49 | Moraiat | csabo2: where? I can never find em in book stores. |
| 03:15.59 | csabo2 | then i ran into that grub issue with d-i nightly iso's |
| 03:16.00 | jetscreamer | borders has em |
| 03:16.03 | csabo2 | Moraiat borders |
| 03:16.06 | Moraiat | quick poll: how many kernels do you have on your box? |
| 03:16.13 | jetscreamer | 512 |
| 03:16.14 | Guerin | Moraiat: two |
| 03:16.16 | csabo2 | 7000 |
| 03:16.16 | Moraiat | csabo2: IC... I do not know of such store |
| 03:16.24 | ericb_ | 5 |
| 03:16.28 | csabo2 | ive got 2 |
| 03:16.30 | jetscreamer | borders is pwned by amazon iirc |
| 03:16.37 | daft_ | Moraiat: incuding hurd and windows kernels? |
| 03:16.42 | Moraiat | ummm |
| 03:16.43 | Moraiat | no |
| 03:16.45 | Moraiat | just linux |
| 03:16.47 | Moraiat | kuz i have 3 |
| 03:16.51 | Moraiat | which might be too much |
| 03:16.52 | jetscreamer | Moraiat, does that count ntoskernel? |
| 03:16.55 | Moraiat | but i guess not |
| 03:16.56 | csabo2 | lol |
| 03:16.57 | nvz | does mv unlink at the end, I.e. can I abort a move, and the file will still be where it was? |
| 03:16.59 | Moraiat | POLL CLOSED! |
| 03:17.04 | Guerin | nvz: yes |
| 03:17.09 | Moraiat | if some people have 7000.... |
| 03:17.09 | ericb_ | I have 5 becaus I didn't cared to remove the other one |
| 03:17.15 | RichiH | !poll |
| 03:17.15 | Guerin | nvz: it's be evil and braindead if it didn't |
| 03:17.15 | dpkg | You wanna poll me? You can't handle polling me! |
| 03:17.18 | RichiH | !polls |
| 03:17.18 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 03:17.28 | Moraiat | where's the lilo.conf equivalent of grub |
| 03:17.36 | csabo2 | dammit |
| 03:17.39 | nvz | Guerin: indeed ;) |
| 03:17.41 | RichiH | Moraiat: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 03:17.42 | jetscreamer | /etc/grub.conf or something |
| 03:17.43 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.45 | jetscreamer | oh that |
| 03:17.48 | csabo2 | its menu.lst |
| 03:17.49 | Guerin | !lose jetscreamer |
| 03:17.49 | dpkg | jetscreamer: You Lose. |
| 03:17.54 | Moraiat | kay |
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| 03:18.05 | jetscreamer | :( well i had a bad exp.w/grub once or twice |
| 03:18.06 | KirbyMeister | <ask> <bad polls> |
| 03:18.07 | csabo2 | lol Guerin |
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| 03:18.23 | jetscreamer | tell KirbyMeister about ask |
| 03:18.25 | RichiH | !tell KirbyMeister about msg |
| 03:18.29 | jetscreamer | tell KirbyMeister about bad polls |
| 03:18.29 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: The box with the most kernels has about 30 |
| 03:18.33 | RichiH | !lose jetscreamer |
| 03:18.34 | dpkg | jetscreamer: You Lose. |
| 03:18.38 | Guerin | tell jetscreamer about ! |
| 03:18.40 | RichiH | jetscreamer: not your day today |
| 03:18.49 | jetscreamer | !shit |
| 03:18.49 | dpkg | [shit] fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
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| 03:18.59 | daft_ | !poop |
| 03:19.00 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: Varying from 2.2.x through 2.4.x to 2.6.x |
| 03:19.07 | ericb_ | lol |
| 03:19.14 | daft_ | ^^ |
| 03:19.16 | csabo2 | why do you still have 2.2's isntalled? |
| 03:19.27 | Cthulfuego | csabo2: Coz they're not in the way. |
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| 03:19.32 | csabo2 | i suppose |
| 03:19.32 | Guerin | ah, the old kernel discussion again |
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| 03:19.39 | spike32 | im looking for a xls(ms-excel) to pdf converter (open-source) |
| 03:19.39 | csabo2 | kdm, xserver , kdebase |
| 03:19.41 | Guerin | ask greycat about his kernels sometime |
| 03:19.42 | Cthulfuego | csabo2: Shall i tell you about the box that runs a 2.0.x kernel? |
| 03:19.42 | csabo2 | am i missing anything? |
| 03:19.48 | daft_ | csabo2: some one gave him a kernel update script and he dont know how to remove the old kernels |
| 03:19.53 | csabo2 | lol |
| 03:20.05 | Moraiat | dark chocolate is the bane of existance |
| 03:20.08 | Moraiat | !cthulu |
| 03:20.08 | Guerin | no |
| 03:20.10 | Cthulfuego | csabo2: It's a Slack 3.0 box, runs 2.0.40 with libc5. |
| 03:20.16 | Guerin | dark chocolate is that whick makes life good |
| 03:20.25 | csabo2 | why do you have a slack 3.0 box? |
| 03:20.31 | Cthulfuego | Dark chocolate is *good* for you. |
| 03:20.32 | csabo2 | its at 10 now you know |
| 03:20.35 | jetscreamer | flammifer, check /media for a cdrom0, if it's not there, dpkg-reconfigure discover (or discover1, i forget) and tell it no don't fuck w/my mount points |
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| 03:20.43 | daft_ | is some one here running linux on a not PC system (no Xboxe`s please)? |
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| 03:20.47 | flammifer | "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, or too many bloody filesystems" <-- wtf ? |
| 03:20.47 | jetscreamer | then after recreate the dir |
| 03:20.48 | Cthulfuego | csabo2: Because it does what it needs to do. |
| 03:20.56 | flammifer | jetscreamer, it's there, he won't mount it |
| 03:20.59 | Cthulfuego | csabo2: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" |
| 03:21.16 | Cthulfuego | daft_: Only Macs |
| 03:21.28 | morner | no fglrx users then? |
| 03:21.29 | morner | :( |
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| 03:21.54 | simonrvn | Cthulfuego: "and if it isn't borked, tweak until you break it, then fix it better than it was before" |
| 03:22.02 | Cthulfuego | dark chocolate has compounds that negate the bad effect caffeine has on your arteries. |
| 03:22.05 | daft_ | why an i still awake doing mostly nothing |
| 03:22.30 | simonrvn | if i'm awake, i'm doing something |
| 03:22.31 | csabo2 | Cthulfuego bah i always hated that saying |
| 03:22.40 | csabo2 | i say "if its been working right too long, youre not doing your job" |
| 03:22.45 | Cthulfuego | So if you eat dark chocolate WITH coffee, your blood pressure doesn't go up. |
| 03:22.46 | simonrvn | if i'm alseep, i'm doing something. i'm always doing something |
| 03:22.54 | jetscreamer | i ate a bunch of fuckin chocolate today.. i'm getting fat. |
| 03:22.55 | Guerin | csabo2: no, that means you ARE doing your job |
| 03:22.57 | TheBlueWizard | nice knowing the dark chocolate has special goodies |
| 03:23.04 | Cthulfuego | csabo2: That's why I'm a highly paid professional and you're not. |
| 03:23.05 | csabo2 | Guerin lies |
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| 03:23.08 | csabo2 | lol |
| 03:23.15 | TheBlueWizard | I hope milk chocolate has similar benefits |
| 03:23.24 | csabo2 | only box i dont like to break is my XP and .NET machines |
| 03:23.30 | Cthulfuego | TheBlueWizard: Too much sugar, not enough cocoa mass. |
| 03:23.30 | simonrvn | freaking hell install scripts with no -f 'n them... |
| 03:23.31 | csabo2 | boxes |
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| 03:23.39 | Guerin | csabo2: well, since they're broken to begin with... |
| 03:23.45 | TheBlueWizard | hmm....drat :) |
| 03:23.48 | csabo2 | ive had no issues |
| 03:23.48 | Cthulfuego | TheBlueWizard: So it probably has the same effect, but to a much lesser extent. |
| 03:23.49 | Moraiat | dark chocolate makes me want better chocolate |
| 03:23.54 | csabo2 | well once my audigy died |
| 03:23.55 | Guerin | no |
| 03:23.56 | csabo2 | and it blue screened |
| 03:24.00 | daft_ | if you take the cpu out of the pc its still doing some thing (I filterd out most irrelvant somethings) |
| 03:24.04 | Guerin | dark chocolate is the only real chocolate |
| 03:24.14 | csabo2 | my .net hasnt restarted since the last SP1 build |
| 03:24.20 | Moraiat | is this the first chocolate flame war? |
| 03:24.21 | daft_ | that leaded out to nothing |
| 03:24.24 | Cthulfuego | milk chocolate is just milkfat and sugar with a bit of colouring. Waste of time. |
| 03:24.25 | fusion | I can never traceroute on my debian box, every hop always times out no matter which host I specify, but windows boxes can traceroute with only the first hop timing out.. all machines are connected in the exact same way to a built in 4 port switch...what could be causing this on Debian? |
| 03:24.27 | csabo2 | and hasnt crashed yet |
| 03:24.32 | simonrvn | s/leaded/led/ |
| 03:24.35 | Cthulfuego | I'm evil, I should know. |
| 03:24.41 | Guerin | milk chcolate is just a cheap and nasty fake chocolate for eople who know no better |
| 03:24.42 | flash_muppet | I am having trouble with my mouse .. I have just dual installed windows 2000 and debian .. how do I find and fix my problem? thanks |
| 03:24.45 | daft_ | Pure chocolate > * |
| 03:24.52 | flammifer | aha ! I found my cdrom problem ! The disk I had in my machine wasn't a CDROM ^^ |
| 03:24.52 | TheBlueWizard | waste of time? the taste is f-a-b-u-l-o-u-s! |
| 03:24.59 | Cthulfuego | daft_: Pure chocolate tastes like shit. |
| 03:25.05 | Guerin | TheBlueWizard: not once you've had real chocolate it isn't |
| 03:25.05 | Moraiat | dark chocolate is not good by itself |
| 03:25.12 | Cthulfuego | it's as bitter as all get out |
| 03:25.18 | Guerin | fucking americans |
| 03:25.18 | scarynetworkguy | !tell flash_muppet about smart questions |
| 03:25.19 | Dabian | OK, I have compiled a question - for this channel!! |
| 03:25.20 | jazzmans | !poop milk chocolate |
| 03:25.22 | simonrvn | daft_: try eating some 90% cocoa chocolate sometime |
| 03:25.23 | Moraiat | <<canadian |
| 03:25.27 | Guerin | too much sugar and fat in your diet has ruined your taste |
| 03:25.32 | jetscreamer | flash_muppet, one common cause is you need to modprobe psmouse && modprobe mousedev |
| 03:25.34 | Guerin | canadians are americans |
| 03:25.36 | daft_ | that is cocoa |
| 03:25.37 | Cthulfuego | simonrvn: I normally have Lindt 85% |
| 03:25.37 | Moraiat | :@ |
| 03:25.40 | Moraiat | wtf? |
| 03:25.43 | csabo2 | cmp3 [a: VA-Paul_Wall_Presents_Ghetto_Grammys_(Chopped_N_Screwed)-2004-ATX - s: 07-slim_thug_mike_jones_paul_wall-still_tippin-atx.mp3] [4m54s\192kbit(44.1khz)] |
| 03:25.45 | daft_ | chocolate is a man made product |
| 03:25.49 | Moraiat | i have currently a dark chocolate "K" beside me... makes me sad |
| 03:25.51 | Dabian | Moraiat: Do you really need to swear? |
| 03:25.52 | Cthulfuego | simonrvn: But eating pure cocoa powder... |
| 03:25.52 | csabo2 | chocolate is natural as well |
| 03:25.54 | simonrvn | Cthulfuego: yeh, i eat the 70 to 80% stuff usually |
| 03:25.54 | Guerin | csabo2: beatings |
| 03:25.58 | csabo2 | just not in the form we have it in |
| 03:26.00 | scarynetworkguy | csabo2: Don't do that. |
| 03:26.04 | Moraiat | Dabian: nope |
| 03:26.07 | simonrvn | yay, .debs :) |
| 03:26.10 | Dabian | Moraiat: I'm glad. |
| 03:26.14 | jetscreamer | you should turn that script off csabo2 |
| 03:26.16 | Moraiat | Dabian: just pissed that someone called me american |
| 03:26.21 | Cthulfuego | Don't make me post my MP3 titles, you'll get frightened... |
| 03:26.27 | csabo2 | doubt it |
| 03:26.29 | csabo2 | i like everything |
| 03:26.31 | jetscreamer | Moraiat, you un-american |
| 03:26.40 | Moraiat | no, i'm just pro-canadian |
| 03:26.45 | Cthulfuego | csabo2: that would make you a slut |
| 03:26.48 | jetscreamer | make up your mind |
| 03:26.59 | jetscreamer | ok |
| 03:26.59 | daft_ | jetscreamer: its easy to become a un-american |
| 03:27.00 | Guerin | Moraiat: don't believe the hype that american == person from the USA |
| 03:27.04 | Dabian | Moraiat: Its only human to get agitated when faced with accusations that seems unpleasent. |
| 03:27.04 | jetscreamer | Moraiat, you non-american |
| 03:27.15 | *** part/#debian TheTom (tom@cm-84.118.157.018.chello.no) |
| 03:27.19 | csabo2 | =\ |
| 03:27.31 | Cthulfuego | stupid libmikmod |
| 03:27.41 | Dabian | Cthulfuego: Close. |
| 03:27.42 | fusion | I guess not? okay... |
| 03:27.42 | Cthulfuego | libc6 not happy |
| 03:27.44 | Moraiat | three moraiat's in a row...wow |
| 03:27.51 | jetscreamer | sorry american is us by default, general usage and squatters rights and all that |
| 03:28.11 | Guerin | jetscreamer: that don't make it so. |
| 03:28.11 | Dabian | jetscreamer: American is brazillian too. |
| 03:28.22 | Dabian | jetscreamer: I know you know that. |
| 03:28.25 | *** part/#debian illek (mike@ip68-13-238-168.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 03:28.33 | jetscreamer | no i really doubt that brazillians call theirselves americans |
| 03:28.44 | daft_ | Guerin: fokes from the usa use the term american for them self |
| 03:28.45 | Dabian | jetscreamer: Some do. |
| 03:29.00 | Moraiat | alright, just for dark chocolate people, i will develop a taste for dark chocolate |
| 03:29.03 | Cthulfuego | /nfs/mp3/Suicide Commando/Axis of evil/01_cause_of_death_suicide-fwyh.mp3 |
| 03:29.04 | *** mode/#debian [+l 715] by debhelper |
| 03:29.12 | Guerin | daft_: incorrectly |
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| 03:29.36 | flammifer | even americans are reticent to call themsleves americans when traveling in the middle east ... "No, no, why, we're from Canada !" |
| 03:29.41 | TheBlueWizard | Moraiat: if you do succeed, I'd buy it by the boxful! |
| 03:29.44 | jetscreamer | actually we should never have given back canada or mexico |
| 03:29.52 | Dabian | jetscreamer: Then again, some from the USA say they're from the south of america .. so I guess your millage might vary with the culprit ;) |
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| 03:30.01 | Guerin | jetscreamer: you're a real comedian. |
| 03:30.10 | jetscreamer | i do try |
| 03:30.15 | daft_ | Guerin: are you telling that my hearing is not proper? |
| 03:30.19 | debian | jetscreamer: invade them. easy |
| 03:30.26 | grivell | jetscreamer: If we never gave back Canada, then who would we be jealous of? ;p |
| 03:30.31 | Guerin | daft_: ? |
| 03:30.31 | Dabian | daft_: Can't you hear him? |
| 03:30.31 | jetscreamer | debian, we did a long time ago. |
| 03:30.38 | Moraiat | TheBlueWizard: no no no, i'm developing a taste for it so I'll like it...probably not what you were thinking |
| 03:30.40 | debian | jetscreamer: yes, around 1920 |
| 03:30.45 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: and failed |
| 03:30.49 | sussudio | if they're really from canada, they'll eat poutine. if they won't eat the poutine, they're USians. |
| 03:31.02 | jetscreamer | no, actually they made him give it back |
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| 03:31.16 | Guerin | I swear the word 'poutine' is onomatopoeia |
| 03:31.27 | Dabian | jetscreamer: Are you a US-american? |
| 03:31.27 | TheBlueWizard | Moraiat: oh....my mistake |
| 03:31.28 | Moraiat | poutine is bad for you :S |
| 03:31.32 | mrhung | hi all... needs some help with kinput2... anyone familar with? |
| 03:31.37 | csabo2 | haha |
| 03:31.39 | csabo2 | great |
| 03:31.41 | debian | jetscreamer: and no one nowaday remember when US planned invade canada |
| 03:31.43 | csabo2 | x11 wont start |
| 03:31.48 | simonrvn | ^5 |
| 03:32.01 | jetscreamer | Dabian, i'm more texas oriented |
| 03:32.05 | Dabian | simonrvn: So did I ... was it timbukto against madras .. or something more interesting for the press? |
| 03:32.05 | Guerin | csabo2: why not? |
| 03:32.08 | Cthulfuego | simonrvn: Or the civil one, which they would have lost, had it not been for the french and dutch. |
| 03:32.13 | grivell | simonrvn: What war was that, I don't remember ;) |
| 03:32.18 | Moraiat | dutch! |
| 03:32.18 | Cthulfuego | simonrvn: So i suppsoe the french and dutch are to blame :-( |
| 03:32.18 | Moraiat | yaay |
| 03:32.19 | csabo2 | im not 100% sure, it restarted on me lol, i think its a config error |
| 03:32.26 | jazzmans | !google 1812 |
| 03:32.31 | csabo2 | ill tell ya in a second :) |
| 03:32.32 | sussudio | !doe Moraiat |
| 03:32.34 | dpkg | Google says 1812 is at http://www.multied.com/1812/Index.html or http://www.militaryheritage.com/1812.htm or http://members.tripod.com/~war1812/ or http://www.galafilm.com/1812/ or http://www.mississinewa1812.com/ |
| 03:32.36 | Moraiat | bluedwarf: two of the most addictive substances in the world |
| 03:32.38 | daft_ | every one blames it on the dutch |
| 03:32.44 | mrhung | it seems to work fine... until it just stops answering |
| 03:32.45 | Dabian | jetscreamer: Then you MUST have a big computer, and you execute (dump) your old computers, if they fail you? |
| 03:32.45 | csabo2 | its there fault |
| 03:32.46 | csabo2 | thats why |
| 03:32.56 | Guerin | heroin isn't even close to being one of the most addictive things in the world |
| 03:32.56 | daft_ | lol @ dpkg |
| 03:33.02 | flammifer | by the way, I'm considering buying a chinese (hanwang) graphics tablet, and I'm wondering if I'm likely to run into driver problems with debian |
| 03:33.03 | pmwilson | how can i get /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to be regenerated from scratch? |
| 03:33.05 | csabo2 | nope , irc > heroin |
| 03:33.07 | Moraiat | er... |
| 03:33.09 | Moraiat | bluewizard |
| 03:33.10 | Guerin | nicotine |
| 03:33.11 | csabo2 | Guerin it starts to load, then screen goes black |
| 03:33.16 | csabo2 | then i get |
| 03:33.16 | sussudio | Guerin: cashews are much more addictive. |
| 03:33.28 | Cthulfuego | csabo2: Agter experiencing morphine first hand, I can say *ine > irc |
| 03:33.29 | Moraiat | Guerin: it's more addictive than dirt! |
| 03:33.29 | Dabian | Guerin: Its quite close. I know there is a rumor that nicotine is more addictive .. but .. |
| 03:33.32 | Guerin | sussudio: brazil nuts > cashews |
| 03:33.37 | simonrvn | Guerin: nah, air, water, those are *really* addictive |
| 03:33.43 | Dabian | Moraiat: Or beatings? |
| 03:33.43 | Moraiat | yeah |
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| 03:33.47 | Moraiat | yeah! |
| 03:33.50 | Cthulfuego | Guerin: eating poo > newbies |
| 03:33.51 | sussudio | Guerin: that's the kind where the oil drips off them, right? |
| 03:34.02 | Guerin | Dabian: not according to the toxicity studies I've read. |
| 03:34.09 | Guerin | sussudio: not quite. |
| 03:34.22 | csabo2 | Guerin : Starting MTA: 2004-12-27 (THE TIME) exim configuration error in line 6 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated : |
| 03:34.23 | Dabian | Guerin: Well, I guess then I should be severely proud I quit smoking last year? |
| 03:34.29 | Guerin | Cthulfuego: just because you are the devourer of worlds |
| 03:34.32 | csabo2 | Guerin : malformed macro definition |
| 03:34.35 | Guerin | Dabian: yes, you should. |
| 03:34.50 | csabo2 | Guerin : warning! invaild configuration file for exim4 |
| 03:34.56 | pmwilson | i tried moving XF86Config-4 out of the way and running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but it didn't actually re-create the config file... what am I doing wrong? |
| 03:34.58 | csabo2 | so i think exim4 is brok e |
| 03:35.07 | Guerin | csabo2: what might exim4 have to do with X? |
| 03:35.08 | Dabian | Guerin: And now I know I can do heroin with little risk of not being able to fight the addiction? |
| 03:35.14 | csabo2 | Guerin i dont know |
| 03:35.15 | sussudio | people who quit smoking think they deserve to get a pat on the back from everyone they tell it to... it's really a stupid thing to begin with. It's like you'd say "I've stopped pounding nails through my dick, how good of me!" |
| 03:35.18 | csabo2 | but i know thats the error im getting |
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| 03:35.22 | csabo2 | and kdm isnt starting |
| 03:35.26 | Moraiat | Dabian: go for it! |
| 03:35.26 | Cthulfuego | I quit smoking 1 month, 1 week, 6 days, 7 hours, 35 minutes and 58 seconds ago. |
| 03:35.27 | Guerin | Dabian: no. |
| 03:35.44 | Cthulfuego | By quitting I've saved $338.62. |
| 03:35.49 | jetscreamer | sussudio, they do deserve it |
| 03:35.50 | Guerin | jesus |
| 03:35.50 | csabo2 | Guerin is there a way i can recreate the config? |
| 03:35.53 | csabo2 | mayge uninstalling it |
| 03:35.55 | grivell | Cthulfuego: I'm still smokin' |
| 03:35.56 | Guerin | you smoked a LOT |
| 03:36.01 | Cthulfuego | Guerin: pack a day |
| 03:36.09 | Cthulfuego | (~20) |
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| 03:36.15 | jetscreamer | csabo2, dpkg --force-confmiss maybe |
| 03:36.17 | Guerin | oh, that's right |
| 03:36.17 | halcyon10 | sorry for the question in advance but i'm confused: if i live in europe, do i need the non-us-cd1 or the other ? |
| 03:36.21 | Cthulfuego | If you do it, you might as well do it well |
| 03:36.23 | Moraiat | I had a dream where I smoked, I woke up and almost puked...last night too... |
| 03:36.23 | Guerin | smokes are way expensive back there |
| 03:36.27 | jetscreamer | other halcyon10 |
| 03:36.34 | Guerin | in korea, they're less than US$2 per |
| 03:36.37 | jetscreamer | !tell halcyon10 about d-i |
| 03:36.38 | Guerin | per pack, i mean |
| 03:36.42 | simonrvn | i smoke about 10-15 a day |
| 03:36.59 | grivell | Guerin: I pay $1.40 off Seneca reservation :) |
| 03:37.00 | csabo2 | !tell csabo2 exim4 |
| 03:37.08 | csabo2 | hmm |
| 03:37.08 | halcyon10 | thank you! |
| 03:37.10 | csabo2 | !exim4 |
| 03:37.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, exim4 is an easy to configure and also powerfull MTA licensed under the GPL, a great sendmail replacement. apt-get able debs for woody are available at http://www.logic.univie.ac.at/~ametzler/debian/exim4manpages/, or set to have ident checking on by default, which will slow down connect times drastically. See /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/02_exim4-config_options for the fix |
| 03:37.14 | simonrvn | grivell: NY state? :) |
| 03:37.14 | Guerin | grivell: where's that? |
| 03:37.18 | csabo2 | what the hell |
| 03:37.19 | Moraiat | !dark chocolate |
| 03:37.20 | grivell | simonrvn: yep |
| 03:37.23 | Cthulfuego | Filthy disgusting habit. |
| 03:37.27 | simonrvn | grivell: nice :) |
| 03:37.28 | csabo2 | Guerin how could a mail app crash kdm? |
| 03:37.31 | Dabian | I used to quit smoking 20 times a day or more, on avarage. |
| 03:37.37 | Cthulfuego | Chocolate tastes SO much better after you've given up smoking ;-) |
| 03:37.42 | Guerin | csabo2: apt-get remove --purge kdm |
| 03:37.45 | jetscreamer | halcyon10, if it's not a production server, you'll be happier with sarge |
| 03:38.04 | Moraiat | I knew a guy who said he had his last smoke because it made him throw up... next day there was a pack of smokes sitting beside him |
| 03:38.06 | TheBlueWizard | Cthulfuego: actually, *everything* tastes so much better |
| 03:38.07 | csabo2 | ok its purged |
| 03:38.09 | csabo2 | reinstall? |
| 03:38.09 | TheBlueWizard | :) |
| 03:38.15 | Cthulfuego | TheBlueWizard: Well yes :-) |
| 03:38.23 | grivell | Cthulfuego: I live in New Jersey. Best breath I get is off a cig. |
| 03:38.28 | Cthulfuego | TheBlueWizard: Or in some cases things get a flavour _at all_ |
| 03:38.29 | pmwilson | i'll ask one more time: i tried moving XF86Config-4 out of the way and running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but it didn't actually re-create the config file... what am I doing wrong? |
| 03:38.30 | halcyon10 | is the sarge a kind of developer-release? |
| 03:38.32 | Moraiat | grivell: lol |
| 03:38.32 | Dabian | csabo2: You little ¤#%"¤%¤&! |
| 03:38.35 | simonrvn | grivell: i'd get them off the rez too, but the closest rez is about an hour of biking, and about 45 min of subway :| |
| 03:38.39 | sussudio | i'd imagine everything tastes better if it isn't coated in a layer of spit and tar before it enters your throat |
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| 03:38.46 | grivell | simonrvn: Get em online |
| 03:38.49 | Guerin | csabo2: as user, not root: startx /usr/bin/startkde |
| 03:38.56 | Cthulfuego | csabo2: No, kdm is best off elsewhere. it sucks. |
| 03:38.58 | simonrvn | grivell: i refuse to get a CC |
| 03:38.58 | csabo2 | ok |
| 03:38.59 | daft_ | best smoke is after sex |
| 03:39.04 | jetscreamer | pmwilson, cp it back and read lines 16&17 |
| 03:39.04 | csabo2 | thanks |
| 03:39.12 | Dabian | daft_: So, best sex is before smoke? |
| 03:39.13 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: Word. |
| 03:39.13 | grivell | simonrvn: ahh. Use check ;) |
| 03:39.14 | RichiH | daft_: best smoke is the last one you ever do |
| 03:39.15 | TheBlueWizard | Cthulfuego: some food had no flavor when under influence of cigarette? I didn't know about that |
| 03:39.19 | Cthulfuego | daft_: What, in the car on the way home? |
| 03:39.23 | Moraiat | AGH! I can't do it! I CAN'T like this stuff!@ |
| 03:39.27 | simonrvn | grivell: money orders? :) |
| 03:39.31 | pmwilson | jetscreamer: oh... yeah.. i forgot i needed those lines, i'll just put them in a blank file |
| 03:39.39 | daft_ | RichiH: depends what your smoking |
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| 03:39.44 | Guerin | the best smoke is the one which has had the tobacco removed and replaced with ganja |
| 03:39.47 | Cthulfuego | TheBlueWizard: Things like fresh mozarella or ricotta pretty much tasteless if you smoke a pack a day |
| 03:39.48 | grivell | simonrvn: Not sure. Never tried, but they have an option. |
| 03:39.57 | daft_ | Cthulfuego: that irrelevant |
| 03:39.57 | jetscreamer | pmwilson, no, READ the lines.. cp the entire file... |
| 03:40.00 | TheBlueWizard | hmm! |
| 03:40.02 | Dabian | Why do I forget my question always? |
| 03:40.03 | morner | disregard my fglrx problems from earlier, turns out i was just missing a dependancy |
| 03:40.05 | RichiH | daft_: well, pure tobacco is jus plain stupid :) |
| 03:40.12 | Cthulfuego | daft_: Irrelevant? What is? |
| 03:40.26 | daft_ | Cthulfuego: where the smoke is |
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| 03:40.33 | simonrvn | grivell: i'll see if the kahnawake stores have some web sites ;) |
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| 03:40.41 | Cthulfuego | daft_: I doubt that |
| 03:41.00 | Cthulfuego | after sex in an abbatoir would not be very enjoyable |
| 03:41.07 | Cthulfuego | but may that's just me |
| 03:41.12 | kreg | anyone know what the trick is to getting a usb mouse to work in kernel 2.6 |
| 03:41.12 | grivell | simonrvn: Can't beat the prices if you are serious smoker. Pack and half a day here :( |
| 03:41.12 | jetscreamer | unless blood turns you on |
| 03:41.15 | Guerin | I'd agree there |
| 03:41.28 | daft_ | why doing sex in an abbatoir? |
| 03:41.30 | grivell | simonrvn: More when bar day. |
| 03:41.39 | Cthulfuego | daft_: No, just having a smoke in one afterwards |
| 03:41.41 | simonrvn | grivell: oh my. hey, it's cheaper too, and here we pay exhorbitant taxes |
| 03:41.51 | Moraiat | oh foamy...fatkins.... |
| 03:41.56 | Guerin | simonrvn: speaking of tobacco, that paper on your site on the topic is interesting |
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| 03:41.59 | daft_ | shall whe do sex? : only when its in an abbatoir |
| 03:42.11 | pmwilson | jetscreamer: heh... yeah i read them... i thought there used to be a set of lines blocking off which parts were to be touched by debconf, etc. but i guess that's changed |
| 03:42.20 | Cthulfuego | daft_: i *AM* cthulfuego, you know! |
| 03:42.21 | grivell | simonrvn: $50-60 a carton vs $14. Not a tough choice for me ;) |
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| 03:42.29 | simonrvn | grivell: anyway, even if they disallow getting smokes from a rez here, i'm entitled to it ;) |
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| 03:42.46 | simonrvn | Guerin: cool, good to hear |
| 03:42.54 | Cthulfuego | WHich reminds me, I need to go and purchase some high quality french cookwares |
| 03:42.59 | daft_ | Cthulfuego: is that good or bad? |
| 03:43.04 | Guerin | cookwarez |
| 03:43.10 | Guerin | 1337 d00d |
| 03:43.24 | Dabian | !gnuradio? |
| 03:43.31 | Cthulfuego | Guerin: I got 0-day spoons. Wanna trade? |
| 03:43.33 | Moraiat | !fomay |
| 03:43.33 | simonrvn | l337 cookwarez |
| 03:43.34 | daft_ | Cthulfuego: you have a good tast |
| 03:43.35 | Moraiat | !foamy |
| 03:43.36 | daft_ | ^^ |
| 03:43.51 | Guerin | Cthulfuego: na, we only getz teh chopstick here its l4me |
| 03:44.05 | Cthulfuego | Guerin: suxx d00d |
| 03:44.40 | Dabian | Eeeehehehehe!? |
| 03:45.00 | daft_ | have you guys send money to south asia yet? |
| 03:45.10 | csabo2 | !tell csabo2 enter key |
| 03:45.14 | Cthulfuego | daft_: They need mops, not money. |
| 03:45.16 | daft_ | Cthulfuego: why this kind of anger |
| 03:45.18 | Dabian | I have an idea |
| 03:45.18 | csabo2 | !tell csabo2 enter |
| 03:45.29 | Dabian | Could we put "Thank Poland" in the topic? |
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| 03:45.31 | Cthulfuego | daft_: coffee without dark chocolate |
| 03:45.31 | Guerin | !tell csabo2 about /msg |
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| 03:45.33 | daft_ | Cthulfuego: maby tons of fresh water? |
| 03:45.47 | Guerin | !poland++ |
| 03:45.54 | Moraiat | what's the entry in grub for an NT loading thing? |
| 03:45.56 | Dabian | !poland++ |
| 03:45.56 | Guerin | man |
| 03:46.03 | Cthulfuego | Why poland? They didn't win the junior eurovision! |
| 03:46.19 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: See the sample config in /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/ |
| 03:46.20 | daft_ | Cthulfuego: good so the wird toxic could not be in the dark chcolate |
| 03:46.20 | Guerin | until a week ago, I was planning on going to indochina;/thailand for three weeks |
| 03:46.20 | Dabian | Cthulfuego: Check http://www.gnu.org |
| 03:46.33 | daft_ | Cthulfuego: who made you coffee |
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| 03:46.36 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego: yeah, just saw them, sorrry |
| 03:46.38 | fofos | Cthulfuego: they did |
| 03:46.40 | Cthulfuego | daft_: My wife did |
| 03:46.42 | Guerin | I'm in mixed feelings about it |
| 03:46.46 | Dabian | Cthulfuego: THey just won it all, IMHO. ;) |
| 03:46.48 | Cthulfuego | fofos: no, spain did |
| 03:46.58 | simonrvn | @poland++ |
| 03:47.04 | fofos | heh, just told to make sure you were not joking |
| 03:47.09 | Dabian | Guerin: Now you want to go to poland? |
| 03:47.09 | daft_ | good coffee |
| 03:47.10 | fofos | i don't have no idea about it |
| 03:47.12 | fofos | hehe |
| 03:47.14 | Dabian | simonrvn: Can I do that too? |
| 03:47.20 | Guerin | Dabian: no, I'm going to NZ instead |
| 03:47.21 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 03:47.24 | Dabian | @poland++ |
| 03:47.37 | simonrvn | Guerin: going home for a bit then? |
| 03:47.41 | Dabian | !karma pland |
| 03:47.41 | dpkg | pland has neutral karma |
| 03:47.41 | Guerin | Dabian: but it would have been interesting to go to thailand |
| 03:47.45 | Guerin | simonrvn: hell yeah |
| 03:47.47 | Dabian | !karma poland |
| 03:47.47 | dpkg | poland has karma of 2 |
| 03:47.50 | simonrvn | Guerin: :) |
| 03:47.54 | csabo2 | !karma usa |
| 03:47.54 | dpkg | usa has neutral karma |
| 03:47.57 | Guerin | simonrvn: it's going to be outstanding :) |
| 03:47.58 | csabo2 | !karma iraq |
| 03:47.58 | dpkg | iraq has neutral karma |
| 03:48.00 | csabo2 | lol |
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| 03:48.02 | Dabian | Guerin: Well, how would you have known that beforehand? ;-P |
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| 03:48.02 | simonrvn | heheh |
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| 03:48.10 | Guerin | Dabian: exactly |
| 03:48.19 | daft_ | has some one here a coffee maschine with coffee padds for 1 or 2 cups of coffee |
| 03:48.28 | Cthulfuego | pads? |
| 03:48.34 | Cthulfuego | wtf is a coffee pad? |
| 03:48.36 | Guerin | wtf is a coffee pad? |
| 03:48.38 | daft_ | that is a no |
| 03:48.39 | Cthulfuego | Coffee is *beans* |
| 03:48.40 | Dabian | Guerin: Besides, you might have been in crossfire from the floods. |
| 03:48.55 | jetscreamer | mug warmer maybe |
| 03:48.57 | Dabian | !karma Denmark |
| 03:48.57 | dpkg | denmark has neutral karma |
| 03:49.00 | Guerin | except an unusual use for a feminine hygiene product in an ad? |
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| 03:49.10 | daft_ | IM DUTCH |
| 03:49.12 | Guerin | Dabian: that would be ok. |
| 03:49.29 | Moraiat | for being dutch...not for aggression |
| 03:49.30 | Guerin | Dabian: I'm not afraid of working hard for no pay. |
| 03:49.32 | ajli | Hello, can someone help? I don't understand what this command means...I'm trying to post into the fedora channel, but it is restricting my access. |
| 03:49.33 | Cthulfuego | daft_: We noemen het 'machine' in nederland, NIET 'maschine'. |
| 03:49.33 | ajli | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.34 | halcyon10 | why does the normal cd1 have the name 'non-us' instead of naming the pruned cd 'us-version' ? |
| 03:49.37 | Dabian | Guerin: Nah .. who should we mock in your place? ;-) |
| 03:49.41 | Cthulfuego | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.43 | Guerin | ajli: /msg nickserv help |
| 03:49.51 | ajli | I just type that exact phrase? |
| 03:50.01 | Guerin | ajli: just try it |
| 03:50.04 | ajli | Ok. |
| 03:50.10 | Cthulfuego | !lart daft_ |
| 03:50.17 | ajli | thx |
| 03:50.25 | csabo2 | !windows |
| 03:50.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, windows is from memory, windows is a 32 bit shell on a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system, originally designed for a 4 bit microprocessor, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition, or if it doesn't work there's this little button called "off" on your computer. praying helps too. es una mierda! :), or not on topic here, or see panic(3) |
| 03:50.35 | Dabian | Whats the guy called that helps here sometimes? Caphuso? |
| 03:50.39 | mwilson | Gods, that quote is annoying. |
| 03:50.55 | Moraiat | nice |
| 03:50.57 | jetscreamer | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Coffee.html |
| 03:50.58 | Moraiat | i like that one |
| 03:51.03 | csabo2 | i dont |
| 03:51.06 | Moraiat | aaagghhh |
| 03:51.11 | Moraiat | the dark chocolate is killing me |
| 03:51.17 | Moraiat | i require water |
| 03:51.21 | Moraiat | and eggnog :P |
| 03:51.21 | Dabian | Moraiat: It seems untrue. |
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| 03:52.06 | daft_ | Moraiat: next time take a stroopwavel |
| 03:52.26 | Moraiat | :| I do not know of these |
| 03:52.28 | muaddib | Question |
| 03:52.37 | akusarujin | i know this is a pretty 'stupid' question, but how can i force a period to be literal when grepping? i run grep -R ".test" /directory and it doesn't count the period... could anyone help? |
| 03:52.41 | Dabian | I don't think windows (or MS-DOS) was originally designed for a 4-bit microprossesor, I might be wrong though. |
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| 03:52.50 | Dabian | akusarujin: 3 times back / |
| 03:52.52 | Cthulfuego | akusarujin: \.test |
| 03:52.52 | muaddib | Question is it possible to setup multiboot with system with GRUB being the default boot loader and Windows's boot loader |
| 03:52.55 | Moraiat | daft_: elaborate |
| 03:53.03 | Cthulfuego | akusarujin: just escape it with a backslash |
| 03:53.03 | jetscreamer | 8088 |
| 03:53.07 | daft_ | oO |
| 03:53.14 | TheBlueWizard | akusarujin: use \...this escapes the special character |
| 03:53.25 | Dabian | akusarujin: grep -R \\\.test |
| 03:53.34 | Moraiat | syrup waffel? |
| 03:53.38 | jetscreamer | muaddib, you just set it up in the mbr |
| 03:53.43 | akusarujin | Cthulfuego, hmm, thanks.. that's what i figured but when i tried it a while back it didn't work, now it's working, perhaps i did something wrong in the past |
| 03:53.45 | Dabian | Moraiat: Yes please. |
| 03:53.49 | ajli | What is a md5sum? |
| 03:53.49 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: It's a type of cookie, not a waffle. |
| 03:53.50 | akusarujin | thanks, everyone, i really appreciate it |
| 03:53.56 | Moraiat | im asking daft you insensitive clod! |
| 03:53.58 | daft_ | Dabian: indeed when dos came 8bit was widely used |
| 03:53.59 | jetscreamer | !md5sum |
| 03:53.59 | dpkg | methinks md5sum is find / -type f -perm +0100 -not -path "/home/*" | xargs md5sum > sums, or see http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1321.html, or contained in package textutils |
| 03:54.00 | Dabian | ajli: Type md5sum / |
| 03:54.07 | ajli | md5sum / |
| 03:54.12 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego: yeah, does it look like a waffle-ish? |
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| 03:54.15 | muaddib | 2jetscreamer: I forgot to mention that I haven't installed Windows XP yet |
| 03:54.16 | jetscreamer | as root |
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| 03:54.19 | Moraiat | cuz if so those things are damn good |
| 03:54.25 | Tom- | Ajli: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5 |
| 03:54.37 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: Well, it's round and a has a slight crosshatch pattern. let me find you apic. |
| 03:54.42 | Moraiat | :O |
| 03:54.44 | Dabian | ajli: Are you english? |
| 03:54.53 | Moraiat | I do know what those are, soooo good |
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| 03:55.06 | csabo2 | hey Guerin whats the command to configure xserver ? |
| 03:55.08 | Moraiat | crap... i want one now... |
| 03:55.09 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: http://www.stroopwafelshop.com/ |
| 03:55.21 | Dabian | Moraiat: Eat'em all, by Candyllia. |
| 03:55.29 | ajli | Yes |
| 03:55.32 | jetscreamer | muaddib, you'll need a linux boot floppy or rescue cd for after windows overwrites grub/lilo so you can reboot to debian and redo your bootloader |
| 03:55.35 | ajli | I live in America |
| 03:55.40 | Dabian | ajli: Good! |
| 03:55.40 | ajli | So md5 is encryption? |
| 03:55.41 | daft_ | 'vo stroopwafelshop |
| 03:55.47 | csabo2 | whats the command to configure xserver ? |
| 03:55.50 | Cthulfuego | ajli: Where, tierra del fuego? |
| 03:55.55 | jetscreamer | md5 is more like a checksum |
| 03:55.57 | jetscreamer | crc |
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| 03:56.03 | jetscreamer | in this case |
| 03:56.04 | csabo2 | Fatal IO error ( connection reset by peer ) |
| 03:56.04 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego, daft_, Dabian, actually the dark chocolate im refering to is a dutch chocolate "K" |
| 03:56.07 | Dabian | csabo2: You mean "apt-get install xserver" ? |
| 03:56.08 | csabo2 | thats what i get when i startx |
| 03:56.12 | csabo2 | no |
| 03:56.13 | csabo2 | its installed |
| 03:56.20 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: You should have eaten your chocoladeletter ages ago. |
| 03:56.23 | ajli | Gotcha. I know this is not fedora, but does anyone know where I can find the md5sum value? |
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| 03:56.28 | Dabian | csabo2: Then its already configured. |
| 03:56.29 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: Mine tend to live for 2 days, tops. |
| 03:56.31 | ajli | It's to double check to see if a file is corrupt, right? |
| 03:56.42 | pmwilson | jetscreamer: well... it isn't CRC, only CRC is CRC... but yes, md5 is a checksumming algorithm |
| 03:56.45 | jaclyn | how does one convince k3b that cdrecord is installed? |
| 03:56.47 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego: If it wasn't dark chocolate it would have been gone! |
| 03:56.48 | Guerin | ajli: just fucking ask in #fedora |
| 03:56.57 | dendrite | csabo2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, if I remember correctly. |
| 03:56.58 | Guerin | jaclyn: run it as root? |
| 03:57.08 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: Let me send you my postal address, you cna send it to me. |
| 03:57.13 | Moraiat | Guerin: that was his initial problem, he couldn't talk in fedora due to irc issus |
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| 03:57.24 | Dabian | Guerin: You tend to curse when you get agitated? |
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| 03:57.32 | Cthulfuego | Dabian: Fucking a! |
| 03:57.32 | Guerin | Moraiat: I know. He was told how to fix them. |
| 03:57.41 | Guerin | Dabian: no, I swear all the time. |
| 03:57.48 | Guerin | Dabian: it's punctuation. |
| 03:58.10 | Dabian | Guerin: I see, how come? Are you living in a very cursing neighbor-hood? |
| 03:58.18 | zu22 | dang over 22,000 people dead from the super tsunami! |
| 03:58.28 | zu22 | the wave front had velocity of 500mph ! |
| 03:58.29 | Dabian | zu22: Ehehehe? |
| 03:58.33 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego: ah, you probly wouldn't want it, part of it is nibbled off, packagings mostly torn up...it's dark chocolate |
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| 03:58.55 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: No, that'll be fine <heh> |
| 03:59.04 | Cthulfuego | though quarantine might not be happy with it |
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| 03:59.11 | zu22 | Dabian: it affected 5 countries |
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| 03:59.14 | Moraiat | where would it be going to? |
| 03:59.21 | Cthulfuego | zu22: 5? |
| 03:59.28 | zu22 | Cthulfuego: ya |
| 03:59.34 | Cthulfuego | zu22: More then that |
| 03:59.35 | Tpyo_Knig | can someone give me a howto or something, on the bootprocess for Debian so I can take out some of the extra stuff ? |
| 03:59.41 | zu22 | Cthulfuego: oh? |
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| 03:59.50 | NormAst | What the highest Debian Kernel 2.6.10? |
| 03:59.54 | Flimzy | Tpyo_Knig: UTSL |
| 03:59.55 | Dabian | zu22: Well .. at least few will greive, cause it must have wiped a lot of families entirely. |
| 04:00.01 | Tpyo_Knig | Flimzy, UTSL? |
| 04:00.08 | Flimzy | Tpyo_Knig: Use The Source, Luke |
| 04:00.09 | Terrapin | anyone know a converter for flac to burn for cd? |
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| 04:00.20 | Cthulfuego | zu22: Don't forget the ones in africa (and even australia, though no deaths here) |
| 04:00.20 | Codyman | hello |
| 04:00.22 | Dabian | NormAst: Its packaged for Debian already? |
| 04:00.22 | Flimzy | Terrapin: I just saw several on freshmeat. |
| 04:00.29 | Tpyo_Knig | WTF |
| 04:00.33 | Guerin | zu22: some of us can read the news, yeah. |
| 04:00.42 | Dabian | Guerin: For real? |
| 04:00.43 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego: where would this chocolate letter be going to? |
| 04:00.45 | ajli | ok thx all |
| 04:00.45 | Codyman | i just installed debian using netinstall and installed "desktop" (testing)... I was curious, how come it didn't install KDE 3.3 but 3.2 instead? |
| 04:00.48 | Terrapin | Flimzy, thanks |
| 04:00.48 | ajli | I found the sum, and they match |
| 04:00.50 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: Never mind :-) |
| 04:00.56 | Dabian | Guerin: I sometimes listen to the radio, but I read no papers. |
| 04:01.04 | zu22 | Cthulfuego: ah u right, dang i glad we don't get tsunamis here, scary! |
| 04:01.09 | NormAst | Dabian: I don't know.. Just asking... |
| 04:01.11 | Guerin | Dabian: my father was once arrested for saying to an officer of the crown "What, can't I speak the Queen's fuckin' English?" |
| 04:01.18 | NormAst | I've heard the 2.6.8 has problems. |
| 04:01.19 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego: well yeah, duh im not gonna send it. just curious as to what your country is called |
| 04:01.23 | Dabian | NormAst: Oh ... |
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| 04:01.25 | Guerin | Dabian: http://news.google.com |
| 04:01.28 | zu22 | GUerin: sheesh |
| 04:01.34 | Codyman | normast: yeah 2.6.8 has cd burner issues |
| 04:01.44 | Dabian | NormAst: Well, you can get it at mirrors of kernel.org and configure/compile it yourself. |
| 04:01.59 | deadcat | any fbpanel users here? i accidently pressed some button and it gave me a mini-command interface to run some apps but i dont know how to recreate that again. |
| 04:02.00 | Cthulfuego | And there's just been a massive whale beaching in tasmania as well (they recorded 40 high tides in the past day or so) |
| 04:02.01 | Dabian | NormAst: I know you can get 2.6.9 for debian. |
| 04:02.14 | Codyman | dabian: wheres 2.6.9 for deb? |
| 04:02.15 | NormAst | Dabian: Where ? |
| 04:02.15 | Dabian | I'm thirsty. |
| 04:02.26 | Dabian | Codyman: nOT for stable. |
| 04:02.28 | Guerin | Codyman: ftp.debian.org |
| 04:02.31 | Dabian | NormAst: Not for stable. |
| 04:02.32 | Codyman | guerin: i have testing |
| 04:02.33 | Codyman | sarge |
| 04:02.37 | Tpyo_Knig | can someone give me a howto or something, on the bootprocess for Debian so I can take out some of the extra stuff ? |
| 04:02.41 | Guerin | it's not in testing |
| 04:02.50 | Codyman | guerin: sid? |
| 04:02.52 | Dabian | Tpyo_Knig: Yes. |
| 04:02.57 | Guerin | Codyman: only in unstable. |
| 04:03.02 | Codyman | o i c |
| 04:03.03 | Cthulfuego | Tpyo_Knig: Like services? Install and sue rcconf |
| 04:03.08 | Codyman | might have to add that to apt-get |
| 04:03.11 | Guerin | Tpyo_Knig: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 04:03.17 | Tpyo_Knig | Im used to slackware... |
| 04:03.20 | Guerin | Codyman: no. |
| 04:03.21 | Tpyo_Knig | so this is new to me.. |
| 04:03.22 | dendrite | Tpyo_Knig: man update-rc.d, and check out /etc/init.conf |
| 04:03.31 | NormAst | So, 2.6.8 just has CDR problems? |
| 04:03.35 | Codyman | Guerin: how do I access unstable? |
| 04:03.45 | Guerin | those cdr problems should be fixed in debian's 2.6.8 kernels |
| 04:03.52 | Cthulfuego | Codyman: ideally 'not" if you need to ask. |
| 04:03.52 | Guerin | Codyman: if you have to ask how, you don't |
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| 04:04.26 | Codyman | im used to 2.6.9.. this is my first day of debian... |
| 04:04.35 | Guerin | Codyman: just use 2.6.8 and be happy |
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| 04:04.46 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego: what kinda chocolate letter did you get?by DeHeer? |
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| 04:04.59 | sussudio | in soviet russia, chocolate letter gets you. |
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| 04:05.06 | Codyman | guerin: my debian "testing" right now is using 2.4.27... why did it not install 2.6.8 |
| 04:05.08 | Moraiat | sussudio: AAAGHH! |
| 04:05.27 | Flimzy | Codyman: Probably b/c you didn't tell it to. |
| 04:05.38 | Codyman | hmm |
| 04:05.40 | zu22 | Moraiat: i have some nice Gevalia chocolate rasberry coffee :) |
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| 04:05.50 | Moraiat | zu22: that's nice |
| 04:06.15 | Guerin | Codyman: what Flimzy said |
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| 04:06.35 | bjay | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.40 | IsoLnCHiP | Hi there. Anyone know a way to dd/cstream ignore i/o errors while trying to make an image of an HD? |
| 04:06.44 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: I haven't had one for a year; I live in Australia and get mine by post from the parents. This year's parcel is still in the mail. normally Verkade, though. |
| 04:07.14 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego: ic |
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| 04:07.34 | Codyman | if i use apt-get to install a 2.6.8 kernel image... do i have to add it to grub or will it do it automatically? |
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| 04:07.52 | zu22 | Cthulfuego: ah so you just in school down there? |
| 04:07.55 | jaclyn | thanks, It works as root, how could I get it to run in other users? |
| 04:08.00 | Cthulfuego | zu22: School? |
| 04:08.15 | Cthulfuego | zu22: I haven't attended a school since the early nineties. |
| 04:08.17 | zu22 | Cthulfuego: or maybe you just moved there to live |
| 04:08.24 | zu22 | ah ok |
| 04:08.27 | Moraiat | zu22: ya know, one or the other |
| 04:08.56 | Moraiat | aussie chicks rule |
| 04:09.07 | zu22 | Cthulfuego: the flavourings are very authentic heh |
| 04:09.17 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: The ones that aren't as dumb as cans of hair do, yes. |
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| 04:09.32 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego: lol |
| 04:09.33 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: But that's pretty much the case everywhere. |
| 04:09.38 | zu22 | Cthulfuego: that applies to most American girls too haha |
| 04:10.05 | IsoLnCHiP | Or doesn anyone know alternatives to dd/cstream which might handle diskerrors better, than just aborting? |
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| 04:10.18 | zu22 | Cthulfuego: don't let your wife hear you talking that way ;-) |
| 04:10.22 | dendrite | IsoLnCHiP: dd has an option to ignore errors, it's in the man page. |
| 04:10.27 | Cthulfuego | zu22: She agrees, mate. |
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| 04:11.01 | IsoLnCHiP | dendrite: It does? Oh drats. That totally escaped me. Ill have to recheck it |
| 04:11.19 | zu22 | Cthulfuego: good sheila you got there mate |
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| 04:11.34 | Cthulfuego | zu22: 'oath. |
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| 04:12.24 | jaclyn | \quit |
| 04:12.37 | IsoLnCHiP | dendrite: Ups. Indead, thanks for pointing that out *ashamed* |
| 04:12.55 | Dabian | jaclyn: Not "\quit", "/quit I'm so leet I know how to quit!" :-) |
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| 04:13.31 | dendrite | IsoLnCHiP: The man page is a little confusing there. I believe you want conv=noerror |
| 04:13.36 | Dabian | (A thing most of us cannot brag of) |
| 04:13.45 | mohohaha | is it possible to use a computer with only cdrom? no hard drive is ok? |
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| 04:14.02 | Guerin | !possible |
| 04:14.02 | dpkg | Anything's possible. Some things are more possible than others. You'll need to ask a more meaningful question if you want to find out how possible your planned course of action is. |
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| 04:14.10 | Chewie[] | how can i get to xdm's login prompt in an Xnest? |
| 04:14.24 | Dabian | Will k3b only run as root, btw? |
| 04:14.25 | grendal_prime | can somone tell me what is wrong with this |
| 04:14.27 | grendal_prime | /dev/sda1 /mnt/floppy vfat rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 04:14.29 | fusion | what startup script controls iptables? |
| 04:14.33 | Dabian | grendal_prime: Yes. |
| 04:14.39 | Dabian | !tell grendal_prime about someone |
| 04:14.50 | Cthulfuego | grendal_prime: Floppies are normally /dev/fd[0-n] |
| 04:15.14 | Dabian | Cthulfuego: You don't really answer his question now, do you? |
| 04:15.14 | dendrite | fusion: There isn't one. I have been copying over from one of the other ones, and creating 'em from that. |
| 04:15.15 | grendal_prime | ya well...problem is this is a usb floppy |
| 04:15.16 | Cthulfuego | grendal_prime: And invariably without partitions. |
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| 04:15.20 | daft_ | Guerin: its not possible for some thing infinent to have a ending |
| 04:15.38 | Cthulfuego | grendal_prime: Did 'dmesg' tell you it was sda1? |
| 04:15.43 | Dabian | Cthulfuego: You're kinda solving his problem, though.l |
| 04:16.00 | Dabian | grendal_prime: sda, not sda1. |
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| 04:16.41 | grendal_prime | hmm thought i tried that |
| 04:16.45 | grendal_prime | ill check it again |
| 04:16.48 | Guerin | daft_: proof |
| 04:16.53 | Cthulfuego | Dabian: Well, that is (contarry to visible evidence) what i'm here for. |
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| 04:17.10 | Dabian | grendal_prime: Lets hope you don't have a SCSI or SATA disk. ;-) |
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| 04:17.38 | grendal_prime | ok that worked |
| 04:17.39 | grendal_prime | hmm |
| 04:17.49 | Dabian | Cthulfuego: You're ok ... I just like to tease people with their questions. You see, I hate it when people do that to me. ;-) |
| 04:17.51 | grendal_prime | why was i thinking i needed the 1? |
| 04:18.04 | Dabian | grendal_prime: You have USB-pendrive? |
| 04:18.06 | grendal_prime | actually...well why does my sans cruzer need partion 1? |
| 04:18.07 | Moraiat | Dabian: well..uh...i dunno |
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| 04:18.16 | Cthulfuego | Dabian: The idea is that iot forces them to use the brain and see the solution themselves. |
| 04:18.27 | Tpyo_Knig | where would I look for/what would I do, to kill the dhcp jon for eth0 on bootup? |
| 04:18.48 | dendrite | Tpyo_Knig: man interfaces |
| 04:18.49 | Dabian | Cthulfuego: Oh .. I hope I did not spoil it. |
| 04:18.55 | tony_ | am getting 'no such device' errors when trying to mount an nfs partition |
| 04:18.57 | Cthulfuego | Dabian: nah, that's fine |
| 04:19.04 | daft_ | Guerin: infinity has no ending so if its end it cant be a infinity |
| 04:19.11 | Dabian | Cthulfuego: Kinda just repeated what ya said. |
| 04:19.19 | Guerin | daft_: where is it written that infinity has no ending? |
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| 04:19.33 | Tpyo_Knig | dendrite, that doesnt help much... I dont want it to EVER do a dhcp on bootup again.. |
| 04:19.47 | fusion | There isnt a script that controls the startup of iptables? I'm being told that there must be because iptables -L reports items...... |
| 04:19.48 | daft_ | Guerin: proof that it has a ending |
| 04:19.49 | sussudio | !fart budluva_ |
| 04:19.57 | budluva_ | ?? |
| 04:19.57 | daft_ | !poop |
| 04:20.01 | Dabian | hehehhe |
| 04:20.02 | dendrite | Tpyo_Knig: Then follow the pointers in that man page, and make it so. |
| 04:20.03 | Moraiat | !elderberries |
| 04:20.07 | Guerin | daft_: infinity simply is of infinite size. presuming a shape of N sites, it could be bounded on N-1 of those sides |
| 04:20.20 | Dabian | !kill sussudio |
| 04:20.21 | Guerin | daft_: any of those sides could be an ending |
| 04:20.55 | budluva_ | can someone help me? im having problems, i can only choose 640x480 for my x screen resolution, i've tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and configured for 800x600 but i can't seem to select it |
| 04:21.01 | Dabian | budluva_: Yes. |
| 04:21.04 | Dabian | !fart budluva_ |
| 04:21.07 | Guerin | daft_: in any case, the onus is on your to prove me wrong, since you called me out. |
| 04:21.08 | daft_ | eummmmm 0.999999.. enz = 1 if the .999 has no ending |
| 04:21.12 | Moraiat | !fart dpkg |
| 04:21.15 | Moraiat | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 04:21.30 | daft_ | !poop |
| 04:21.38 | Dabian | !tell budluva_ about anyone |
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| 04:22.01 | daft_ | !tell anyone about anyone |
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| 04:22.13 | Dabian | budluva_: Try advanced monitor settings .. check with your manual to get the right numbers. |
| 04:22.19 | zu22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.34 | daft_ | <dpkg> told anyone about anyone (***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do.) |
| 04:22.43 | dendrite | Guerin: Really.. I mean, you're bound to lose in such a discussion, eh? =) |
| 04:22.47 | daft_ | lol |
| 04:22.54 | Dabian | !whois anyone |
| 04:23.21 | Dabian | hmm .. maybe "we" were too hard on "budluva_" ? |
| 04:23.48 | Moraiat | if you can't take the heat get out of the # |
| 04:23.49 | sussudio | just type /lastlog budluva if you keep a log for this channel. |
| 04:23.51 | daft_ | some thing like "press any buttom" |
| 04:24.02 | zu22 | cool i did it |
| 04:24.03 | Guerin | dendrite: the one about the pig and the shit comes to mind ... somewhat fittingly |
| 04:24.14 | Piggy | o_o |
| 04:24.18 | dendrite | Guerin: =8-o |
| 04:24.23 | daft_ | >.< |
| 04:24.32 | zu22 | ^(oo)^ |
| 04:24.53 | daft_ | (\()()/) |
| 04:25.02 | Guerin | beatings |
| 04:25.09 | Guerin | this is not #asciiart |
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| 04:25.30 | daft_ | (_/_) (_\_) (_/_) (_\_) (_/_) (_\_) (_/_) (_\_) (_/_) (_\_) |
| 04:25.30 | Dabian | No, thats just right the corner, to the left. |
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| 04:25.32 | daft_ | !poop |
| 04:25.40 | Dabian | !troll daft_ |
| 04:25.47 | fusion | if there isn't an iptables startup script how come I have things when I do iptables -L .. anyone? |
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| 04:25.58 | sussudio | * Joins: squinty (~ budluva @S0106000d8831d668.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 04:26.18 | dendrite | fusion: Do you have things besides the default empty chains with ACCEPT policies? |
| 04:26.20 | Dabian | squinty: Did it work? |
| 04:26.43 | fusion | dendrite: ah, no..would they be there anyway? |
| 04:27.06 | dendrite | fusion: Yeah. Or at least as soon as you run iptables to check... |
| 04:27.12 | subopt | Does debian have the /etc/init.d/rc[0-6].d/ System V structure, or a BSD style setup? |
| 04:27.15 | xim | hi. i have to fix a debian box (experimental branch) and i would like to put it back to unstable. What would be the better way? |
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| 04:27.23 | dendrite | subopt: sysv |
| 04:27.28 | daft_ | Dabian why cant you declare me a troll instead you shuff it on dpkg's plate |
| 04:27.32 | subopt | dendrite:thx |
| 04:28.02 | Dabian | daft_: Hey! You're supposed to give dpkg the heat for this! |
| 04:28.24 | Guerin | daft_: stop whining, stop trolling, stop being a twat. |
| 04:28.29 | dendrite | Dabian: Leave dpkg alone, it's not feeling well. |
| 04:28.57 | Dabian | dendrite: Well .. if you ask me, it really hasn't since apt entered the channel ;) |
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| 04:29.15 | daft_ | better? |
| 04:29.33 | Dabian | daft_: You're going in the right direction, yeah :) |
| 04:29.40 | daft_ | \o/ |
| 04:29.47 | Dabian | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.49 | dendrite | I've often wondered why debian didn't have a proper init hook for iptables... |
| 04:29.50 | Dabian | miss |
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| 04:30.11 | daft_ | here have a other | |
| 04:30.11 | Dabian | dendrite: Then you saw the bug about iptables-save ? |
| 04:30.34 | Dabian | | |
| 04:30.35 | daft_ | Dabian:cant you make it? |
| 04:30.43 | dendrite | Dabian: Yeah, but that's a different thing. I'm talking about the fact that the feature is missing entirely, in the context of debian init processing. |
| 04:30.47 | Dabian | \o/ |
| 04:30.55 | Codyman | how can i upgrad to kde 3.3 with sarge testing using apt... it says 3.2 is the "latest" |
| 04:30.56 | Moraiat | In grub, what do I put in instead of hdg1 |
| 04:31.04 | Guerin | Dabian: are you and daft_ competing for the 'fuckwit of the week' award? |
| 04:31.14 | Dabian | dendrite: Just run a script, then iptables-save |
| 04:31.21 | Moraiat | Guerin: ahem...there appears to be a third contestant |
| 04:31.24 | daft_ | are you? |
| 04:31.43 | dendrite | Dabian: I know about a dozen ways to do it. My point is that debian doesn't have an "official" way. |
| 04:31.45 | Guerin | Codyman: 3.3 isn't in sarge |
| 04:31.46 | Dabian | Guerin: No, I don't even know what a ****wit is. |
| 04:31.47 | dendrite | Dabian: |
| 04:31.51 | daft_ | if you want to be it say it and i are trying some thing else |
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| 04:32.06 | daft_ | *I am |
| 04:32.09 | dendrite | That contrasts with most other modern platforms... |
| 04:32.10 | Dabian | dendrite: I think iptables-save *is* the official way? |
| 04:32.41 | Dabian | dendrite: I suppose Red Hat isn't a modern platform? |
| 04:32.41 | dendrite | Dabian: Um. OK, Is the restore stuff called at boot? |
| 04:32.54 | tony_ | how the hell do I install debian onto a compact flash that's soldered on? |
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| 04:33.01 | Dabian | dendrite: AFAIK .. I didn't know that though, so I wrote my own initscript. |
| 04:33.05 | tony_ | I've got it PXEboote' |
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| 04:33.13 | Dabian | tony_: Congrats! |
| 04:33.14 | tony_ | but there's no 'lilo' or 'grub' |
| 04:33.15 | Guerin | Moraiat: why have you got a /dev/hdg |
| 04:33.17 | Dabian | tony_: Soekris? |
| 04:33.17 | Guerin | ? |
| 04:33.29 | dendrite | Dabian: My point exactly. That is what you do with debian, you write your own init script for iptables. That seems odd to me. |
| 04:33.32 | Dabian | Guerin: Maybe he has ultradma? |
| 04:33.35 | tony_ | Dabian, yep |
| 04:33.38 | tony_ | I work here |
| 04:33.43 | daft_ | tony_: soldered on what? |
| 04:33.43 | Moraiat | hdg1 = hd6,0 ? |
| 04:33.48 | tony_ | hang on |
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| 04:33.55 | Dabian | dendrite: I think the restore thing is called on boot .. but I didn't know that when I wrote the script. |
| 04:33.56 | Codyman | guerin: what is 3.3 in |
| 04:33.58 | Flimzy | Are there any tools that can query a CDDB server, and then accordingly name (and possibly tag) a directory of .wav/ogg/mp3/whatever files ripped from a CD to match the CDDB data? Much like abcde's functionality... but without going thru the process of ripping and encoding? |
| 04:33.58 | Guerin | Moraiat: should be |
| 04:34.04 | Guerin | Codyman: 3.3 is in sid |
| 04:34.07 | Codyman | ic |
| 04:34.21 | nevyn | in C how does one get the cannonical name of a file? |
| 04:34.29 | Moraiat | Guerin: thanks |
| 04:34.30 | sussudio | nevyn: #c |
| 04:34.32 | mwilson | Did I miss some original controversy? What's the deal with the thread on d-u about names of applications? |
| 04:34.33 | Dabian | nevyn: You ask java. |
| 04:34.41 | dendrite | Dabian: I haven't seen any hook for iptables-restore (or whatever it's called) but then again, I mainly run sid. I'll check on the sarge boxes we're building though. |
| 04:34.45 | Dabian | nevyn: :-P |
| 04:34.46 | Moraiat | can anyone imagine life without sudo? |
| 04:34.55 | Dabian | Moraiat: Yes. |
| 04:34.58 | Codyman | guerin: does that mean I would have to wipe out sarge and install sid |
| 04:35.00 | Moraiat | oh...fine then |
| 04:35.01 | Moraiat | jerk |
| 04:35.01 | Dabian | !tell Moraiat about anyone |
| 04:35.02 | tony | sorry, had to get my nick back |
| 04:35.09 | dendrite | Moraiat: Yes, I remember it, even. |
| 04:35.10 | mohohaha | i don't have sudo |
| 04:35.16 | mohohaha | sudo is a security hack |
| 04:35.18 | tony | Dabian , do you know how to do this? |
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| 04:35.22 | zu22 | mwilson: dunno, i was on d-u for a few days but unsubscribed caz the daily volume was too high :) |
| 04:35.29 | pahli_bar | uh oh. irc spam |
| 04:35.38 | Dabian | tony: Have you got a flashcard for harddrive? |
| 04:35.43 | Guerin | Codyman: no. You have to figure out how to move to sid yourself. |
| 04:35.46 | mwilson | Moraiat: You ask a question, get an answer, and all you can decide is that the person is a jerk? What did you expect someone to say? |
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| 04:35.51 | zu22 | Moraiat: i never use sudo, only lazy ppl use that :) |
| 04:35.52 | Guerin | !sid faq |
| 04:35.52 | dpkg | hmm... sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 04:35.58 | sussudio | pahli_bar: who? |
| 04:36.01 | tony | Dabian, it would be easy if it was removable compact flash, but this flash is soldered on |
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| 04:36.09 | pahli_bar | sussudio: FullGames |
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| 04:36.18 | mns | zu22 what do you use then ? :) |
| 04:36.21 | Dabian | tony: Nice - you got the OEM? |
| 04:36.36 | tony | Dabian , no, this is one of our new prototypes |
| 04:36.37 | sussudio | pahli_bar: did he /msg you or what? |
| 04:36.44 | Dabian | tony: OK |
| 04:36.48 | Dabian | tony: 4801 ? |
| 04:36.50 | zu22 | mns: "su root" |
| 04:36.55 | tony | Dabian, it's a 4826 |
| 04:36.56 | dendrite | Dabian: Come to think of it, I'd rather just keep my regular iptables command syntax in the init scripts, it's easier to read than the iptables-save syntax... |
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| 04:37.02 | Dabian | tony: Wow |
| 04:37.02 | pahli_bar | sussudio: yes. auto msg on joining the channel. " http://euroad.superihost.com Full Games, HL2, NFSU2 !!" |
| 04:37.07 | mwilson | zu22: I don't see the volume as too high... I can zoom through a days worth in less than 10 min or so. |
| 04:37.08 | tony | Dabian , I work for Soekris |
| 04:37.08 | sussudio | hmm. |
| 04:37.09 | sussudio | !ops |
| 04:37.09 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. EXPLAIN THE PROBLEM PLEASE. :) |
| 04:37.10 | squinty | is there any way to force x to start in 800x600 resolution? |
| 04:37.13 | helix | sussudio: ? |
| 04:37.14 | Dabian | tony: I didn't even know they existed |
| 04:37.16 | sussudio | helix: /cycle |
| 04:37.18 | Dabian | tony: OH ok |
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| 04:37.23 | tony | Dabian , they don't _YET_ |
| 04:37.24 | tony | hehe |
| 04:37.27 | mns | sussudio i got it as well, an autogreeting in private from FullGames ... |
| 04:37.28 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
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| 04:37.28 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 04:37.30 | sussudio | ktnx |
| 04:37.39 | zu22 | mwilson: hmm, maybe i joined during a peak period heh |
| 04:37.51 | Dabian | tony: Why solder it on then? To force you to pxe boot it? ;-) |
| 04:38.00 | pahli_bar | sussudio: thanks |
| 04:38.03 | tony | Dabian, it saves people money and space |
| 04:38.10 | tony | Dabian , it's a pain tho |
| 04:38.15 | Dabian | yeah |
| 04:38.19 | mwilson | zu22: There's a couple hundred messages a day sometimes, but having a *good* MUA (mutt) makes it a breeze. |
| 04:38.31 | Guerin | mwilson: which thread? |
| 04:38.35 | sussudio | Geert: "FullGames is stuff@fm172.internetdsl.tpnet.pl" appears to be doing on-join spam in several channels. he's banned from this one now. |
| 04:38.36 | Dabian | tony: But esp. the space is worth a lot, I guess. |
| 04:38.45 | tony | Dabian , I've gotta get debian installed local... but none of the PXEboot flavors of debian have grub or lilo |
| 04:38.53 | mwilson | Guerin: This thing about political correctness in names. |
| 04:39.04 | Moraiat | sussudio: ~labdhbgfd@225-143-89-200.fibertel.com.ar |
| 04:39.05 | mwilson | Guerin: I think it started as a stab at Ubuntu. |
| 04:39.07 | Guerin | oh, the one which was spawned by hot-babe |
| 04:39.10 | Guerin | oh ok |
| 04:39.14 | mns | zu22: and of course it always help to have something like procmail as well ... :) |
| 04:39.14 | zu22 | mwilson: ya i'm gonna look into mutt |
| 04:39.23 | Dabian | tony: Hmm .. do you have a filesystem on the soekris? |
| 04:39.40 | mwilson | Guerin: Yeah, but I don't see what the big deal is, so I figured I had to have missed something that came earlier. |
| 04:39.40 | Dabian | tony: And net? |
| 04:39.48 | tony | Dabian, Its PXEBooted now |
| 04:40.05 | tony | and I can fdisk the CF, etc, just can't get a bootloader |
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| 04:40.14 | Dabian | tony: I doubt I can help you .. I find this facinating though. :) |
| 04:40.22 | tony | Dabian, ok, thanks man |
| 04:40.26 | Dabian | tony: I've been using debian since 98 |
| 04:40.41 | Dabian | tony: I've done a lot of booting tricks .. but this one is facinating :) |
| 04:40.54 | Moraiat | grr |
| 04:40.58 | Moraiat | grub hates me |
| 04:41.05 | tony | Dabian, cool.. I don't want to tell you how long I've been using debian |
| 04:41.10 | Dabian | tony: I don't know grub that well, but with lilo, its really a question of getting the image on the bootrack. |
| 04:41.11 | tony | WAY too long |
| 04:41.24 | tony | hmm |
| 04:41.25 | Dabian | tony: :) |
| 04:41.34 | Dabian | You used buzz? |
| 04:41.39 | tony | buzz? |
| 04:41.40 | Moraiat | who DOES know grub well here? |
| 04:41.44 | Dabian | Bo was my first |
| 04:41.46 | sussudio | Moraiat: #grub |
| 04:41.48 | tony | oh, yes, |
| 04:41.50 | tony | right |
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| 04:41.57 | Moraiat | sussudio: #grub is dead |
| 04:41.58 | sussudio | i started in 1998 with slink |
| 04:42.00 | tony | hmm.... yes, I think so |
| 04:42.10 | Empty | Moraiat, people don't know grub as well because they don't have to for it to work most of the time |
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| 04:42.23 | Dabian | slink in '98 ? |
| 04:42.28 | tony | oh well... |
| 04:42.30 | sussudio | !slink |
| 04:42.31 | dpkg | Slink (Debian 2.1) was released March 1999. It is no longer supported. Ask me about slink->potato. |
| 04:42.34 | Dabian | hehe |
| 04:42.37 | Moraiat | !grub |
| 04:42.37 | dpkg | from memory, grub is [grub] Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader that can boot a lot of OSes, understands a lot of filesystems including reiserfs.. Go here for an excellent step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, or a distributed internet crawler. |
| 04:42.38 | Empty | Whereas more people know lilo because you have to know it to use it pretty much ;) |
| 04:42.42 | Dabian | !buzz |
| 04:42.42 | dpkg | hmm... buzz is Debian 1.1, released June 1996 (474 packages, 2.0 kernel, fully ELF, dpkg) |
| 04:42.46 | sussudio | well, before it was released. as in 'testing'. |
| 04:42.59 | Empty | !sid |
| 04:43.00 | dpkg | [sid] the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. |
| 04:43.04 | Dabian | sussudio: There was no testing back then ... |
| 04:43.05 | sussudio | i think hamm was before slink |
| 04:43.16 | Dabian | hamm was before slink, yeah |
| 04:43.16 | Guerin | why the fuck are we flooding the channel with irrelevant shite? |
| 04:43.17 | mwilson | Empty: Where do you get nonsense like that, anyway? |
| 04:43.29 | Dabian | Guerin: Whats "shite" ? |
| 04:43.35 | Empty | mwilson: nonsense like what? Lilo? |
| 04:43.45 | Empty | mwilson, Years of adminning the shit |
| 04:43.47 | Moraiat | can someone give me an exact entry for windows using grub? |
| 04:43.52 | mwilson | Empty: This idiotic description of grub vs lilo. |
| 04:43.56 | Guerin | Dabian: it's shit from northern england |
| 04:44.03 | sussudio | !fgi Moraiat windows fucking grub emtries |
| 04:44.04 | dpkg | Moraiat: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=windows fucking grub emtries |
| 04:44.24 | Dabian | sussudio: Are you a person? |
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| 04:44.36 | Moraiat | he is pure evil :$ |
| 04:44.45 | Guerin | Moraiat: there's a fucking example in the menu.lst |
| 04:44.48 | Empty | mwilson, lilo has historically been less friendly than grub by a long shot in my experience |
| 04:44.56 | Moraiat | i used that, didn't work |
| 04:45.05 | Dabian | tony: You at work now? |
| 04:45.06 | Guerin | Moraiat: then you didn't set it up correctly |
| 04:45.08 | Moraiat | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.12 | Moraiat | Guerin: yep |
| 04:45.16 | Empty | mwilson, probably because my skill leel increased between me learning both, but I still notice it |
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| 04:45.38 | Empty | s/leel/level/ |
| 04:45.42 | Dabian | !sussudio |
| 04:45.42 | dpkg | Kiss my shiny metal ass, dabian! |
| 04:45.43 | dendrite | Moraiat: Given that there an infinite number of possible things you might have tried, and that might be wrong, you're going to have to be a bit more specific. |
| 04:45.51 | tony | does anyone use syslinux? |
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| 04:46.04 | tony | Dabian, yeppers |
| 04:46.26 | mns | I keep getting the followin on my console all day long "NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out eth0: transmit timed out, resetting eth0: Happy Status 03030000 TX[000003ff:ooooo301] eth0: Link is up using internal transceiver at 100Mb/s, Full Duplex" What is it trying to tell me and why am I getting it all day long ? |
| 04:46.32 | jaime_silva | Empty: I've always used lilo, using grub brings something new, does it wort to change lilo for grub in a machine that only runs linux? |
| 04:46.53 | Empty | mns: is the switchport set to full duplex, half or auto? |
| 04:46.55 | Dabian | tony: I dunno much about the pxe-boot thingy .. but if you can get some sort of a filesystem, and partition the flash, I guess you can also lilo it. |
| 04:47.00 | mwilson | jaime_silva: There's no reason to change from lilo to grub unless you WANT to. |
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| 04:47.11 | mns | Empty: switchport ? |
| 04:47.20 | Empty | mns, whats it plugged into? |
| 04:47.24 | tony | Dabian, thats the question... there's no lilo on this CFDebian image I'm PXEBooted from |
| 04:47.25 | Dabian | tony: I doubt the flash will have trouble with 1024 cylinders boundaries? :) |
| 04:47.34 | mwilson | jaime_silva: Grub doesn't work any better or worse than lilo does, it merely has features lilo doesn't. |
| 04:47.35 | tony | Dabian , nah |
| 04:47.54 | Empty | mns try setting eth0 to half duplex |
| 04:47.56 | mns | Empty, its plugged into a 5 port SMC hub |
| 04:47.57 | Dabian | tony: Does it include drivers for the netcard, and nfs or something? |
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| 04:48.34 | tony | Dabian, everything works, but there's no bootloader |
| 04:48.56 | Dabian | tony: You can mount an nfs that contains the lilo-binary then. |
| 04:49.03 | dendrite | mns: Consider trying a different port on the hub, and swapping out the network cable if you have a spare handy. |
| 04:49.08 | Dabian | tony: Do you have ram filesystem now or ? |
| 04:49.12 | tony | Dabian, I've copied it over, but it doesn't work |
| 04:49.14 | tony | Dabian , yes |
| 04:49.22 | mns | dendrite: ok. |
| 04:49.30 | Dabian | tony: You have fdisked the flash? |
| 04:49.36 | tony | Dabian , yep |
| 04:49.36 | mns | Empty: How do I set eth0 to half-duplex ? |
| 04:49.39 | Empty | dendrite, good advice also |
| 04:49.58 | Dabian | tony: Do you have all in one partition? |
| 04:50.00 | Empty | mns if you haven't tried that (switching cables and ports) do so |
| 04:50.05 | tony | Dabian, yeah |
| 04:50.19 | Dabian | tony: I doubt flash will suit well as swap anyhow, so thats good ;) |
| 04:50.21 | tony | Dabian , a moment ago I tried to mount an NFS exported from the server, but that would mount either |
| 04:50.31 | louiej | what might be causing the issue of booting into the grub> prompt rather than booting linux? |
| 04:50.32 | tony | s/would/woudln't/ |
| 04:50.34 | Dabian | tony: You need "chroot" also. |
| 04:50.35 | jaime_silva | mwilson: And which are those features? |
| 04:50.44 | tony | Dabian , on the PXEbooted device? |
| 04:50.50 | tony | Dabian , why? |
| 04:50.53 | mns | Empty: just switched the ports on the hub, lets see what happens :) |
| 04:50.56 | Dabian | tony: Yeah .. either that or an option of lilo. |
| 04:51.13 | tony | Dabian , I just need to install a boot loader |
| 04:51.16 | Dabian | tony: Otherwise lilo will write to the MBR of the ram-filesystem. |
| 04:51.25 | tony | Dabian , yes |
| 04:51.31 | dendrite | jaime_silva: GRUB has more abilities to lie to the booting OS than LILO does. Swapping drives, etc. |
| 04:51.32 | jaime_silva | damn, gaim really sucks for irc, i'll better switch to xchat |
| 04:51.47 | Guerin | debian-user is such a waste of fucking time |
| 04:51.56 | Dabian | jaime_silva: No .. please write a better irc-module, or even better, improve the existing one? |
| 04:52.06 | Empty | try MII-tool... Setting some of mine to full looks like this: /sbin/mii-tool -F 100baseTx-FD eth0 |
| 04:52.22 | Dabian | tony: Thats where special option of lilo, or chroot comes in the game. |
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| 04:52.46 | Empty | mns, mii-diag package |
| 04:52.53 | jaime_silva | Dabian: using xchat solves the problem faster |
| 04:53.04 | mwilson | Guerin: Ah, d-u is occasionally useful. The signal-to-noise ratio on most Debian lists has been very low lately. |
| 04:53.07 | Empty | mns, but do try the ports and wires swapout first :) |
| 04:53.08 | Dabian | jaime_silva: Nobody says you cannot do both. ;) |
| 04:53.15 | jaime_silva | :D |
| 04:53.21 | Dabian | tony: Its the -r option. |
| 04:53.23 | jaime_silva | brb |
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| 04:53.32 | Guerin | mwilson: I should sign up for the digest, I guess |
| 04:53.42 | Dabian | tony: -r root-directory |
| 04:53.46 | Guerin | but this thread is just pure bullshit |
| 04:53.58 | mwilson | Guerin: The digests are too big. |
| 04:54.05 | Guerin | yeah, they would bee |
| 04:54.09 | Guerin | s/ee/e/ |
| 04:54.23 | mns | Empty: thanks for the mii-tool info. I already switched ports, and that did not help. Unfortunatley at this hour, I don't have access to a cable. I'm going to try setting it to Half Duplex and see what happens. |
| 04:54.25 | Dabian | tony: "Before doing anything else, do a chroot to the indicated directory. The new root directory must contain a /dev directory, and may need a /boot directory. It may also need an /etc/lilo.conf file." |
| 04:54.34 | mwilson | Guerin: I can ctrl-R whole threads with the blink of an eye with mutt. |
| 04:54.42 | Guerin | yeah |
| 04:54.52 | louiej | what might be causing the issue of booting into the grub> prompt rather than booting debian? |
| 04:55.22 | Dabian | louiej: XP? |
| 04:55.35 | Guerin | louiej: bad grub setup |
| 04:55.57 | Dabian | louiej: What Guerin the irish said. |
| 04:56.11 | louiej | the /boot/grub/grub.conf file or the process? |
| 04:56.25 | Dabian | louiej: Exactly! |
| 04:56.48 | louiej | both !?!?! |
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| 04:57.12 | Dabian | Could be.. |
| 04:57.56 | Guerin | Dabian: I'm not irish, you dumb fucker. |
| 04:58.11 | louiej | dabian: right now I'm not sure where to start. |
| 04:58.14 | mns | Empty: does mii-tool require a kernel that is newer then 2.4.18 ? I keep getting "SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported" |
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| 04:58.21 | Dabian | louiej: Good :) |
| 04:58.43 | Dabian | Guerin: Speak nicely of your supiriours. |
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| 04:59.07 | sbk | louiej: most probably a problem with your grub.conf file |
| 04:59.07 | louiej | Dabian: You're not exactly helping. |
| 04:59.12 | Dabian | louiej: Pick up a good document about grub, then debug the process. |
| 04:59.16 | jaime_silva | ok this is better |
| 04:59.21 | louiej | k thx. |
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| 04:59.29 | Dabian | !tell louiej about grub |
| 05:00.06 | usuario | I have a problem Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 05:00.06 | usuario | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 05:00.06 | usuario | xhost: unable to open display ":0.0" |
| 05:00.08 | Dabian | louiej: Well, I could say "use lilo instead", but he prolly wouldn't like that ;) |
| 05:00.10 | usuario | oops |
| 05:00.21 | mrhung | hi all... needs some help with kinput2... anyone familar with? |
| 05:00.28 | daft_ | USMarine: is the port open? |
| 05:00.42 | usuario | but I get that returned, what could be the problem? |
| 05:00.52 | Guerin | !connection refused |
| 05:00.53 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
| 05:01.22 | Guerin | mmmmm, fishy noodles |
| 05:01.31 | Guerin | i loves me fishy noodles |
| 05:02.06 | sbk | louiej: are there any actual error messages before it drops you into the prompt? BTW, it's menu.lst rather than grub.conf I think |
| 05:02.26 | usuario | Guerin: I may not have x server configured right, I only add x-system-core after the installation of Xfree86 |
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| 05:02.45 | Guerin | usuario: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 05:02.52 | mrhung | or does anyone know where I might be able to ask? |
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| 05:03.32 | mrhung | I know it's a rather obscure topic. |
| 05:03.56 | codemarauder | :) |
| 05:04.19 | exobyte | I'm trying to decide between corsair and crucial memory for my laptop. |
| 05:04.32 | usuario | Guerin: okay, I'll restart X |
| 05:05.34 | Guerin | mrhung: #kde, #debian-kde |
| 05:06.37 | jaime_silva | ok, I've been out of IRC for a while and I'm dying to ask this one: What is the thing with x.org is it better? Is it for the normal mortal or do I need a very expensive video card to use it, will XFree dissapear eventually? |
| 05:07.12 | mrhung | Guerin - the k in kinput has nothing to do with kde. Thanks though. |
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| 05:07.48 | exobyte | anyone here have a |
| 05:07.54 | exobyte | T series thinkpad |
| 05:08.07 | mrhung | kinput is a JIME (Japanese input method editor/environment) |
| 05:08.08 | KirbyMeister | exobyte: Yeah, I have 'A'. I also have 'B' and 'C'. |
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| 05:08.18 | helix | gosh, how clever |
| 05:08.25 | helix | moron |
| 05:08.31 | helix | exobyte: still having problems? |
| 05:08.37 | findme | I want to buy a firewire card any suggestions. |
| 05:08.46 | KirbyMeister | findme: For debian? |
| 05:08.56 | KirbyMeister | findme: I've never used Firewire |
| 05:08.57 | findme | KirbyMeister, yeah |
| 05:09.04 | findme | KirbyMeister, firewire is kewl |
| 05:09.09 | usuario | Guerin: well, I've done a lot of crazy things this time around on the deb install I did linux26, I chose manual-package selection instead of checking stuff like mail server, webserver, desktop system, then I apt-getted kde, kdm, x-core-system |
| 05:09.23 | KirbyMeister | findme: So I wouldnt have a clue on good hardware. |
| 05:09.41 | findme | KirbyMeister, ok. |
| 05:09.57 | usuario | Guerin: Let me show another message |
| 05:09.58 | mwilson | jaime_silva: No, yes, no, and probably. |
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| 05:10.32 | zu22 | mrhung: u got kinput url? |
| 05:10.39 | npx | Hi. I just got a monitor and can't find the refresh rates in the docs - I installed the read-edid package and can't figure out how to use it. Anyone know? |
| 05:10.49 | exobyte | helix: nah- split and md5 fixed my backup issue. I'm trying to find the second primary memory slot |
| 05:11.20 | exobyte | KirbyMeister: Any idea where I can find the main memory slot, not the one I unscrew a cover to get to? |
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| 05:11.51 | usuario | Guerin: please look at http://rafb.net/paste/results/wDy4AA50.html |
| 05:12.05 | usuario | Guerin: as you can see, I can add +localhost in $ but not # |
| 05:12.23 | Guerin | !xhost |
| 05:12.23 | dpkg | [xhost] EVIL! Ask me about mit-magic-cookie, or read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz before even thinking about using the "xhost" command. Ask me about "sshx", or "nolisten" if you're mule-headed |
| 05:12.39 | mrhung | zu22 - for its websit? |
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| 05:12.58 | Guerin | usuario: running a local X server, you should have absolutely no need for xhost |
| 05:13.08 | scarynetworkguy | npx: What monitor? |
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| 05:13.17 | PoonJ | hey guys.. |
| 05:13.25 | codemarauder | hi poonj |
| 05:13.30 | PoonJ | I'm in gnome...but when I go to the LOGOUT menu..nothing happens.. |
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| 05:13.42 | Dabian | Guerin: Sure he should, if he su to root or something. |
| 05:13.44 | PoonJ | I can only get out if I do ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 05:13.50 | Guerin | Dabian: no. |
| 05:13.50 | geeetne | is XHTML+CSS+PHP+MySQL enough to code a good portal website ? |
| 05:13.57 | geeetne | or should I learn something else? |
| 05:14.01 | jaime_silva | I've forgoten how to use the /list command :( |
| 05:14.08 | Dabian | Guerin: You want him to ssh or type "export DISPLAY=:0" ? |
| 05:14.11 | Guerin | geeetne: don't aask us. |
| 05:14.25 | Guerin | Dabian: I want him to not run X or X programs as root. |
| 05:14.25 | Dabian | geeetne: Aask the others. |
| 05:14.30 | glick | hey has anyone seen that onlinie funny movie clip of this guy whos friend sends him an email about an animal sex website and as a result he gets fired from his job when his co-worker sees it and it has this huge domino effect on his life ending with him killing himself |
| 05:14.36 | findme | geeetne, as the saying goes, LAMP -> Linux Apache MySQL and Php is sufficient. |
| 05:14.41 | glick | i think it may be with will farell |
| 05:14.57 | Dabian | Guerin: Ahh .. then we disagree. :) |
| 05:15.02 | Guerin | php is insecure |
| 05:15.14 | Guerin | Dabian: that would be because you're stupid and I'm not. |
| 05:15.32 | findme | Guerin, Guerin ++ |
| 05:17.01 | jaime_silva | please someone, how do I use /list to search a channel with a regexp? |
| 05:17.02 | exobyte | any preference on either corsair or crucial memory? |
| 05:17.04 | findme | my my 1Tera Byte Disk |
| 05:17.46 | evan_LN | crucial memory |
| 05:17.50 | Dabian | Guerin: I can see why you would think that. |
| 05:17.51 | findme | is 1$ per GB ok, I am planning to buy a firewire drive 160GB ->$159 |
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| 05:18.08 | Dabian | findme: Anything is ok - you're paying man ;) |
| 05:18.08 | Guerin | findme: google |
| 05:18.12 | Guerin | exobyte: google |
| 05:18.22 | findme | ok. |
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| 05:18.44 | kruzi | froogle too |
| 05:18.46 | exobyte | Guerin: google doesn't make ram |
| 05:18.56 | usuario | Guerin: Thanks for your help and especially you patience! |
| 05:19.01 | exobyte | I'm froogling it, corsair is a little cheaper |
| 05:19.06 | Dabian | findme: Check prizes on the net, if you're still happy with $159, buy it .. its your decision. :) |
| 05:20.10 | Dabian | findme: Maybe someone thinks .. he's a fool! He can get a 320 MB/s SCSI for only $1799!! .. but ,, its not him you have to make happy, you have to make you happy :) |
| 05:20.33 | scarynetworkguy | !bofhsmite Dabian |
| 05:20.37 | sussudio | the firewire enclosure might be more expensive than the harddrive itself |
| 05:20.40 | findme | Dabian, ok just wanted some suggestions. I guess you are more of philosphical nature. Zen |
| 05:20.49 | Guerin | exobyte: no, google make search |
| 05:21.01 | Dabian | findme: :) |
| 05:21.19 | findme | Dabian, go Zen. :-) Peace & Love 4 all |
| 05:21.25 | Dabian | findme: Its 6:21am here .. and I'm (still) on my way to bed. |
| 05:22.42 | Dabian | findme: You bhuddist? |
| 05:23.03 | Dabian | struts? |
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| 05:23.23 | SeXiShAwTy | any horny people? |
| 05:23.41 | sussudio | helix? |
| 05:23.41 | Dabian | SeXiShAwTy: Lots .. just look in our sister channel .. #lesbian! |
| 05:23.42 | findme | Dabian, I like its teachings. |
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| 05:23.59 | Dabian | findme: :-) |
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| 05:24.19 | sussudio | ktnx |
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| 05:24.25 | edward_ | good morning... |
| 05:24.34 | findme | edward_, good night! |
| 05:24.43 | edward_ | hehe.. |
| 05:24.43 | Dabian | Ahh .. looks like someone helped him on his way.. :-) |
| 05:24.49 | Dabian | Thanks helix :) |
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| 05:26.47 | evan_LN | for the kill command do you just type 'kill firefox' if you want to close firefox or is there something else i need to type? |
| 05:27.03 | Dabian | evan_LN: killall firefox? |
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| 05:27.07 | scarynetworkguy | evan_LN: man kill |
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| 05:27.51 | Dabian | evan_LN: echo `which ps` is also your friend, even. |
| 05:27.55 | fusion | ps aux | grep firefox; kill -9 <PID> |
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| 05:28.16 | Dabian | fusion: And thats better than killall firefox because of the -KILL signal? |
| 05:28.36 | gratuit | is there an easy way to simply have any input from the microphone output to the speakers? |
| 05:28.40 | fusion | shrug dont know, its just what I use |
| 05:28.51 | evan_LN | Dabian, for fusion what would you type? |
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| 05:28.57 | Dabian | gratuit: yes ... buy a soundblaster live .. I cannot turn of the thing. |
| 05:29.00 | Guerin | depending on how you call firefox, killall firefox might not work |
| 05:29.04 | Dabian | evan_LN: fusion? |
| 05:29.27 | Dabian | Guerin: killall firefox-bin then. |
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| 05:29.34 | Guerin | but ps ax |awk '/firefox/ {print $1}' | xargs kill -9; kills it stone dead every time |
| 05:29.35 | evan_LN | Dabian, i got confused nevermind |
| 05:29.45 | gratuit | what is the microphone device? |
| 05:30.02 | Dabian | gratuit: You mean /dev/dsp or are you using alsa? |
| 05:30.11 | evan_LN | killall firefox didn't work |
| 05:30.15 | Dabian | gratuit: There is also /dev/mixer |
| 05:30.20 | Guerin | evan_LN: try my line |
| 05:30.23 | Dabian | evan_LN: killall -KILL firefox |
| 05:30.25 | scarynetworkguy | evan_LN: man kill and do it right this time. |
| 05:30.28 | gratuit | Dabian: I'm using alsa, though I'm relatively new to it |
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| 05:30.52 | Dabian | gratuit: Cool! We like brave men! |
| 05:30.55 | Guerin | gratuit: if you have oss eumlation, using /dev/dsp should work |
| 05:31.27 | Dabian | Guerin: I wonder if he knows wether he has oss emulation? |
| 05:31.41 | evan_LN | Dabian,killall -KILL firefox didn't work i got the message firefox:no process killed |
| 05:31.53 | ansong | i'm having a problem getting popfile to work. i'm using sylpheed-claws as my mail client |
| 05:32.00 | Dabian | evan_LN: wow .. try this: |
| 05:32.34 | Dabian | evan_LN: /exec ps xau|grep -i firefox |
| 05:32.37 | Dabian | ups |
| 05:32.42 | Dabian | evan_LN: /exec -o ps xau|grep -i firefox |
| 05:32.51 | Guerin | no |
| 05:32.53 | Dabian | no |
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| 05:32.58 | Dabian | evan_LN: /exec -o ps xau|grep -i firefox | tail -1 |
| 05:32.59 | jaime_silva | How do I dissable the locale database update? |
| 05:33.01 | ansong | i know it has to be a port thing, but the popfile docs aren't helping really. has anyone here gotten it to work? |
| 05:33.11 | Guerin | don't tell people to run exec -o commands in public channels |
| 05:33.24 | Dabian | Guerin: Sorry .. forgot about the tail. |
| 05:33.39 | Dabian | Its half past six for christ sake. :) |
| 05:33.43 | Guerin | jaime_silva: look in /etc/cron.daily/ and delete or -x the script which is controls it |
| 05:33.49 | evan_LN | Dabian: they aren't working maybe because i'm running Libranet |
| 05:33.54 | Guerin | Dabian: so fuck off to bed already |
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| 05:33.59 | Guerin | evan_LN: beatings |
| 05:34.17 | Dabian | Guerin: I really thing you ought to work on your language, are you a scottish? |
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| 05:34.29 | jaime_silva | Guerin: that's the problem, I can't find the script |
| 05:34.51 | Guerin | jaime_silva: try /etc/crontab and crontab -e also |
| 05:35.15 | Guerin | Dabian: no, not for a couple of generations. |
| 05:35.42 | Guerin | Dabian: and my language is fine, thanks. I do teach english for a living. |
| 05:35.45 | Dabian | Scottish people often has a mouth as durty as the boots of common sewer worker. I guess I should be gratefull for those generations.. |
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| 05:36.26 | Dabian | Guerin: I'm glad you don't teach my kids ,) |
| 05:36.33 | jaime_silva | Guerin: the default script for root is empty so I don't think crontab -e will give me the answer, I'll look in /etc/crontab |
| 05:36.34 | Guerin | Dabian: don't make me start slagging off Danes. |
| 05:37.05 | Guerin | Dabian: when not faced with mindless idiocy, I am quite civil. |
| 05:37.18 | mwilson | jaime_silva: Why do you not want the locate database to update? |
| 05:37.26 | Dabian | Guerin: Its hard to escape ones own shadow, my lad. ;-) |
| 05:37.35 | mwilson | jaime_silva: It happens at 6 am with the rest of the scheduled jobs. |
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| 05:38.21 | Dabian | mwilson: How do you change the time when it happens btw.? |
| 05:38.40 | KirbyMeister | Does anyone know how GRUB chainloads the Windows bootloader, like where I should put the loader? |
| 05:38.45 | Guerin | Dabian: man cron |
| 05:38.58 | Dabian | they put it in the cron manpage now? |
| 05:39.02 | Dabian | Clever :) |
| 05:39.12 | KirbyMeister | You guys have been so helpful to me... |
| 05:39.22 | jaime_silva | mwilson: Because I don't want it to run in a slow desktop machine when someone is using openoffice + firefox + xmms + ... |
| 05:39.26 | Dabian | KirbyMeister: Try #windows |
| 05:39.40 | sgeigerb` | When I boot my system (which newly has LVM volumes on it) I see "/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 on /target type ext3 (rw)" and mention of "/dev/shm/root" in the dmesg/boot output. I suspect that /dev/shm/root is somehow a reference to the device that contains my root filesystem (on LVM)...but I have no idea where "shm" comes from, as the volume group is not named that. Where does it come from? It doesn't exist under / |
| 05:39.40 | sgeigerb` | dev/ upon completion of the boot, and the same is true of /dev/ide. What does /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 come from? This is not using software raid, as far as I know. (Is that what it refers to?) |
| 05:39.42 | KirbyMeister | Dabian: No, I'm busy configuring a dualboot |
| 05:39.43 | Dabian | KirbyMeister: #grub is dead, I heard. |
| 05:39.43 | mwilson | jaime_silva: At 6 am? Who's using the machine doing those things at 6 am? |
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| 05:39.49 | Dabian | sgeigerb`: Really? |
| 05:39.53 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: the windows bootloader is on the windows drive, strangely. |
| 05:39.57 | jaime_silva | Dabian: check /etc/crontab it runs the daily, weekly, etc. |
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| 05:40.11 | sgeigerb` | Dabian: I know about /ignore... |
| 05:40.15 | Dabian | jaime_silva: Yes. |
| 05:40.18 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Really? That's the strangest thing. |
| 05:40.18 | jaime_silva | mwilson: My mother wakes up really early |
| 05:40.27 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: bizarre, isn't it. |
| 05:40.28 | KirbyMeister | So I just chainload +1 then |
| 05:40.29 | wackiz | Hmm, anyone who knows what package I need to get include files? |
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| 05:40.53 | KirbyMeister | All this time I thought windows boots off of the MBR! |
| 05:40.55 | abrotman | wackiz: which include files? |
| 05:40.56 | Guerin | wackiz: something-dev |
| 05:40.56 | Dabian | !tell wackiz about anyone |
| 05:40.57 | jaime_silva | Dabian: So there you can change the time when it happens |
| 05:41.04 | mwilson | wackiz: Does anyone get to know *which* "include files" you think are missing? |
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| 05:41.13 | KirbyMeister | Good. Now I can install grub. |
| 05:41.28 | wackiz | mwilson: Every include file more or less actually. |
| 05:41.29 | Dabian | Good |
| 05:41.33 | Guerin | hahaha |
| 05:41.36 | abrotman | wackiz: -dev packages |
| 05:41.39 | Dabian | Hows tony doing? |
| 05:41.45 | Guerin | wackiz: ok, I'll tell you how - but you might not like it |
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| 05:42.01 | Dabian | (hehehe) |
| 05:42.02 | mwilson | wackiz: And which exploit is it that you're trying to build, exactly? |
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| 05:42.19 | Dabian | mwilson: Curious, aren't we? |
| 05:42.25 | Guerin | wackiz: apt-cache search dev |awk '/-dev/ {print $1}' |xargs apt-get -y install |
| 05:42.27 | wackiz | I'm actually trying to build anything on my own private gox... |
| 05:42.32 | abrotman | i vote for the jumpnbump expliot |
| 05:42.39 | KirbyMeister | But first I gotta pee. |
| 05:42.47 | wackiz | box that is |
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| 05:42.48 | abrotman | !pee KirbyMeister |
| 05:42.52 | abrotman | :( |
| 05:42.54 | Dabian | abrotman: You still have something to say, after you got taht i810 gfx card? |
| 05:43.11 | abrotman | Dabian: it's built into my laptop .. not much choice |
| 05:43.11 | zu22 | wackiz: you want to build anything or something? haha |
| 05:43.26 | Dabian | abrotman: Who bought you the laptop? |
| 05:43.34 | abrotman | Dabian: i did .. i love my TP |
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| 05:43.45 | Dabian | abrotman: No problem then. :-) |
| 05:43.56 | abrotman | Dabian: it works fine .. except for that missing .. ctrl-alt-f# |
| 05:44.03 | abrotman | but who needs that |
| 05:44.21 | wackiz | I know there is -one- package I need, and not every -dev package available to get the /usr/include files |
| 05:44.21 | Dabian | I use it a lot .. for instance because I have two GDM's running. |
| 05:44.37 | wackiz | But, the problem is I can't recall the name |
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| 05:44.40 | abrotman | yeah .. i know .. i submitted a bug .. ignored |
| 05:44.44 | mwilson | Anyone else feel like they're in a Dr Seuss book? |
| 05:44.59 | zu22 | heh |
| 05:45.02 | Guerin | wackiz: well, my oneliner will get it for you |
| 05:45.09 | Guerin | then you can uninstall the ones you don't need |
| 05:45.20 | abrotman | mwilson: are you a fox in a box? |
| 05:45.21 | Dabian | abrotman: They cannot ignore a bug unpunished, I hope? |
| 05:45.35 | wackiz | Guerin: Got 'E: Sorry, broken packages' |
| 05:45.42 | abrotman | Dabian: overfiend said i had a .EU-ish keyboard .. and closed it |
| 05:45.46 | Dabian | wackiz: Try again. |
| 05:46.06 | Guerin | wackiz: You might have to download them and then install them all with dpkg -i --force-all |
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| 05:46.14 | Dabian | abrotman: Is he us-american euro-trash hater or something? |
| 05:46.24 | Dabian | abrotman: But thats not ignoring the bug though. |
| 05:46.33 | abrotman | Dabian: nfc .. i don't even know what a <> key is :) |
| 05:46.38 | Guerin | wackiz: or you could just actually be specific so we have a sane idea about what you want to do |
| 05:46.43 | jaime_silva | This is other pending question: Which is the name of the script you must run in order to add or remove init.d scripts from the rc* dirs? I can't remember it and I can't find info about it |
| 05:46.48 | Dabian | !nfc? |
| 05:46.48 | dpkg | nfc is, like, No Fucking Clue. National Football Conference |
| 05:46.52 | abrotman | jaime_silva: update-rc.d |
| 05:47.04 | abrotman | or rcconf |
| 05:47.06 | Dabian | abrotman: National Football Conference? |
| 05:47.08 | KirbyMeister | Okay, I ran grub-install, and I wanna know, what is /dev/sda ? |
| 05:47.09 | abrotman | heh |
| 05:47.13 | wackiz | Well, I'm missing all header files first of all |
| 05:47.22 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: your primary scsi disk |
| 05:47.29 | wackiz | /usr/include is more or less empty |
| 05:47.29 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: I dont have a scsi |
| 05:47.31 | abrotman | Dabian: i should probably resubmit before sarge gets released .. though it could be my fault |
| 05:47.33 | Guerin | wackiz: ok, you DO NOT NEED 'all header files' |
| 05:47.38 | KirbyMeister | Guerin: Unless it's my MP3 player |
| 05:47.41 | Guerin | KirbyMeister: might be a usb drive or something |
| 05:47.42 | kreg | is it usual for a laptop touchpad to be recognized by /dev/input/mice ?? |
| 05:47.44 | risky | jaime_silva, update-rc.d? |
| 05:47.49 | abrotman | wackiz: what are you trying to build? |
| 05:47.53 | wackiz | stdio.h is one of the ones I need |
| 05:47.55 | Dabian | abrotman: Make it releasecritical, that would surely make you popular ;-) |
| 05:47.58 | wackiz | abrotman: Eggdrop currently |
| 05:48.00 | abrotman | !find stdio.h |
| 05:48.00 | Guerin | !b-e wackiz |
| 05:48.01 | dpkg | wackiz: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 05:48.04 | scarynetworkguy | Dabian: Did you know that you left the servlet examples up on your tomcat? |
| 05:48.07 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'stdio.h' (7 shown; 45 total): (/usr/include/sfio/stdio.h) in devel/sfio-dev ;; (/usr/include/lam/tstdio.h) in devel/lam4-dev ;; (/usr/share/cmix/shadow/stdio.h) in devel/cmix ;; (/usr/share/splint/lib/stdio.h) in devel/splint ;; (/usr/share/cscc/include/stdio.h) in devel/pnetc ;; (/usr/avr/include/stdio.h) in otherosfs/avr-libc ;; (/usr/include/pccts/pccts_stdio.h) in devel/pccts. |
| 05:48.13 | abrotman | err .. uhm ... |
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| 05:48.29 | Dabian | scarynetworkguy: Yeah |
| 05:48.41 | Dabian | scarynetworkguy: Is that bad? |
| 05:48.47 | scarynetworkguy | Dabian: You do know that that's a real good way to get owned, right? |
| 05:48.55 | wackiz | dpkg: install build-essential where? :) |
| 05:48.55 | dpkg | wackiz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 05:48.59 | scarynetworkguy | Dabian: And FFS at least try not leak the version. |
| 05:49.00 | jaime_silva | It should be better documented, I tryied the init docs and other related stuff but I couldn't find it |
| 05:49.03 | Dabian | scarynetworkguy: Nope .. I have no idea.. |
| 05:49.09 | Guerin | wackiz: jesus you are a moron |
| 05:49.18 | Dabian | !ffs? |
| 05:49.18 | dpkg | somebody said ffs was for fuck's sake, or for fine's sake. UCB's Fast File System, or for fearl's sake, or forgetfearl syndrome, or for Fooz' sake |
| 05:49.31 | jaime_silva | It isn't mentioned in the README you find in /etc/init.d either |
| 05:49.33 | scarynetworkguy | Dabian: On and you're sendmail installe is rootable. |
| 05:49.50 | Guerin | haha |
| 05:49.53 | Guerin | !lose Dabian |
| 05:49.54 | dpkg | Dabian: You Lose. |
| 05:50.17 | Dabian | scarynetworkguy: Rootable? Its the woody version? |
| 05:50.27 | wackiz | Guerin: Sorry for not being so "into" debian as you are then... |
| 05:50.58 | scarynetworkguy | Dabian: There is a reason that nobody who doesn't have to doesn't run sendmail. |
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| 05:51.00 | Dabian | scarynetworkguy: Its probably patched, or we should file a bug. |
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| 05:51.10 | Guerin | wackiz: no, it's not that at all. |
| 05:51.19 | abrotman | !apostrophesmite Dabian |
| 05:51.22 | abrotman | :) |
| 05:51.29 | thu- | hello.. is there any network utility that will allow me to discover a device on the local network with an unknown IP address? |
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| 05:51.49 | Guerin | wackiz: you've clearly failed to read one piece of documentation on this OS before using it to do something that's at least moderately advanced |
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| 05:52.20 | Dabian | scarynetworkguy: Thanks for scanning, though. |
| 05:53.10 | Guerin | wackiz: here's a freebie: the way you install anything on a debian system is with apt-get install <packagename> |
| 05:53.10 | wackiz | Guerin: Yeah, that's probably it... |
| 05:53.30 | Guerin | !pkgmgmt |
| 05:53.30 | dpkg | from memory, pkgmgmt is Debian Package Management - Most Important Commands: http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.html or 'man apt-get'; 'man apt-cache', or apt-get install apt-dpkg-ref |
| 05:54.17 | sussudio | stupid people should die. |
| 05:54.25 | sussudio | that's not too exteme of me, is it? |
| 05:54.40 | wackiz | Guerin: Yeah, I know, and I can't recall the name of the package I need to get, I've tried to search for it, I've search google with no luck, if I knew what package I needed to install to get the "standard" include files I would probably not be here right now... |
| 05:54.48 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: I'm for the party that does the mouth shooting. |
| 05:54.54 | Guerin | wackiz: we FUCKING TOLD YOU |
| 05:54.59 | sussudio | abrotman: don't make me change your userpic. |
| 05:55.08 | abrotman | sussudio: i like the baker :) |
| 05:55.15 | jaime_silva | ok, this must be new in sarge I can remove cron and then it removes exim and its replaced by xmail |
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| 05:55.30 | jaime_silva | Why can't I remove the mail server? |
| 05:55.31 | Guerin | woah |
| 05:55.35 | Guerin | don't remove cron |
| 05:55.43 | Guerin | and don't remove the mail server, either |
| 05:55.44 | seberino | why are CPUs like PIC referred to a 'microcontrollers'? i've never heard that term before |
| 05:55.49 | sussudio | jaime_silva: you can't remove the mail server because it's an essential part of debian |
| 05:55.51 | jaime_silva | Guerin: Will it be bad for a desktop machine? |
| 05:55.52 | abrotman | !pic |
| 05:55.52 | dpkg | well, pic is position independent code |
| 05:55.58 | Guerin | jaime_silva: yes, very. |
| 05:56.03 | mwilson | jaime_silva: Something has to provide mail-transport-agent |
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| 05:56.11 | sussudio | Dabian: don't message me or i will castrate you with a rusty knife. |
| 05:56.36 | Dabian | sussudio: Ok .. I prefer to adress you in the channel the. |
| 05:56.38 | Dabian | then. |
| 05:56.41 | mwilson | jaime_silva: Why in the world would you remove cron? There are easier ways to break the box. |
| 05:56.43 | abrotman | !knife sussudio |
| 05:56.47 | abrotman | :( |
| 05:57.01 | jaime_silva | seberino: microcontrollers (uC) are microprocessors packaged with peripetals (serial, i2c, memory, etc) in the same chip |
| 05:57.12 | Dabian | mwilson: Including: echo Booh! > /proc/kmem |
| 05:57.26 | seberino | jaime_silva: i see, thanks |
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| 05:58.34 | jaime_silva | But it seems to be new in sarge, as I told, because now I can remove cron + exim and is replaced by xmail |
| 05:59.06 | jaime_silva | So I guess xmail is very lightweight mail serve usefull to replace exim in my case |
| 05:59.09 | Guerin | jaime_silva: look, ffs, just remove /etc/cron.daily/find; or move it elsewhere and make a manual cron entry to do it at 4am or midday or something |
| 05:59.23 | Guerin | jaime_silva: don't remove cron |
| 06:00.07 | Harpette | hi there, does debian still have the debian-menus for the different window mgrs ? |
| 06:00.23 | jaime_silva | Guerin: Tell me which important thing that is not a server will stop to work properly, according to apt-get I can remove it without breaking any dependencies (only exim) |
| 06:00.24 | Guerin | Harpette: yes. |
| 06:00.24 | Dabian | Harpette: info debian-menu |
| 06:00.39 | Dabian | Harpette: info debian menus |
| 06:00.41 | Dabian | even. |
| 06:00.41 | Harpette | ok, thx. and for xfce4 too ? |
| 06:00.43 | Dabian | I guess. |
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| 06:00.45 | swim | hi |
| 06:00.46 | Guerin | jaime_silva: cron is important for many things. Don't fuck with it. |
| 06:01.00 | Dabian | !maint xfce4 |
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| 06:01.06 | dpkg | xfce4: Martin Loschwitz <madkiss@debian.org> |
| 06:01.16 | jaime_silva | Guerin: maybe in servers I don't think it is important for desktops |
| 06:01.32 | Guerin | jaime_silva: you clearly know nothing about it then |
| 06:01.33 | Harpette | dpkg: that's whom i should write to ? |
| 06:01.34 | dpkg | Harpette: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 06:01.42 | swim | I installed using my previous /home partition without formatting it so I could keep my data, but it seems to be gone though the partition has 7gigs used still, so the data must still be there...help? |
| 06:01.46 | abrotman | dpkg: what are you |
| 06:01.46 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 06:01.48 | Dabian | Harpette: Ask Martin, if you want, I guess a bug report would be the proper way, if it works not, and there is no note about it. |
| 06:01.55 | Guerin | Harpette: write what? |
| 06:02.07 | Dabian | I need sleep |
| 06:02.36 | Harpette | Guerin: i guess ask about debian-menus be present in xfce4 |
| 06:02.45 | jaime_silva | Guerin: I know what it is for and I use it to automate many things in the servers I admin but in the desktop I'm talking about I can't see any need for it |
| 06:02.46 | Guerin | Harpette: apt-get install menu |
| 06:03.11 | abrotman | and restart X |
| 06:03.21 | Guerin | jaime_silva: you think it was just put there for no reason at all? |
| 06:03.35 | Harpette | i'm looking for a distro which sets up the apropriate menu entries when new sw is installed |
| 06:03.43 | Harpette | and not just for gnome or kde |
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| 06:03.55 | Harpette | i recall debian menus to do smthing like that |
| 06:03.57 | abrotman | it's menu . the package 'menu; |
| 06:04.02 | Guerin | Harpette: 'menu' does this in xfce4 |
| 06:04.02 | Harpette | ok |
| 06:04.08 | jaime_silva | Guerin: It seems like the only one needing it right now, in the desktop I'm talking about, is exim |
| 06:04.12 | Harpette | ah |
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| 06:04.29 | jazzmans | xfce does a great job of that menu when you install additional software. |
| 06:04.40 | Guerin | jaime_silva: the only PACKAGE depending on it, yes. But not the only thing it's used for. Look at the scripts in /etc/cron* |
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| 06:04.49 | jaime_silva | Guerin: Just think in that the machine is never on when the daily, weekly, etc. scripts are scheduled |
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| 06:05.00 | Guerin | jaime_silva: that's what anacron is for |
| 06:05.01 | Harpette | Guerin: that 'menu' cmd is debian-specific, right ? not xfce at large ? |
| 06:05.08 | Guerin | Harpette: yes. |
| 06:05.20 | jaime_silva | Guerin: that's what I was about to tell you |
| 06:05.35 | Harpette | ok thx guys. any other distro with a similar feature ? |
| 06:05.39 | Guerin | jaime_silva: why isn't the computer on? |
| 06:05.47 | Guerin | Harpette: /msg dpkg htfswk |
| 06:06.22 | Harpette | Guerin: huh. thx, i'll try and see wha happens |
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| 06:06.39 | jaime_silva | Guerin: Cause it is a desktop!!!! |
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| 06:06.47 | Guerin | jaime_silva: so? |
| 06:06.48 | abrotman | desktops need cron |
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| 06:06.59 | Harpette | ha ha |
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| 06:07.06 | jaime_silva | Guerin: Think of that machine as a typewritter with a screen |
| 06:07.09 | Guerin | all uni systems need cron; it's what stops them accumulating worthless cruft like windows boxen. |
| 06:07.15 | Guerin | jaime_silva: it's not, though. |
| 06:07.17 | abrotman | *unix |
| 06:07.20 | Guerin | yeah |
| 06:07.24 | sussudio | if you want a typewriter, get a fucking typewriter. |
| 06:07.27 | abrotman | all systems have a cron type system |
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| 06:08.20 | jaime_silva | jajaja :D |
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| 06:09.08 | jaime_silva | Have you ever seen a 55 year old colombian lawer using the computer for something else that print documents? |
| 06:09.21 | Harpette | jaime: porn ? |
| 06:09.29 | Guerin | jaime_silva: irrelevant. |
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| 06:09.56 | Guerin | jaime_silva: are you saying that because he only drives his car, it should never be taken in for a clean and a service? |
| 06:10.15 | Harpette | jaime_silva: oops, looks like i goofeds |
| 06:10.19 | Harpette | goofed |
| 06:11.08 | jaime_silva | Guerin: Why don't we leave it like that, I just now that desktop doesn't need cron |
| 06:11.16 | squinty | ok, i just put a video card in my machine, that used to be running an onboard s3, the new card is nvidia, and i can't start xserver now |
| 06:11.49 | jaime_silva | squinty: Install the nvidia modules |
| 06:11.50 | Guerin | jaime_silva: good luck with that. |
| 06:11.59 | jaime_silva | Guerin: thanks |
| 06:12.06 | Guerin | you will need it. |
| 06:12.23 | jaime_silva | ok I will let you know |
| 06:12.35 | squinty | jaime_silva ok im reconfiguring xserver-xfree86 now, is nv the nvidia drivers? |
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| 06:12.36 | sussudio | why do you even need linux. just get freedos or something. |
| 06:12.44 | squinty | i was using s3 before, but now have an nvidia card |
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| 06:14.51 | jaime_silva | squinty: apt-cache search nvidia |
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| 06:15.16 | mwilson | jaime_silva: Why do you say the dsktop doesn't need cron? |
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| 06:15.43 | Guerin | mwilson: because that box is just a typewriter, silly. |
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| 06:15.52 | jaime_silva | squinty: you can also try the nv server, but the acceleration is not so good |
| 06:16.19 | mwilson | Guerin: You know, it's really not worth trying to save the clueless from themselves. |
| 06:16.31 | jaime_silva | OK you win it is needed, In this case I'll replace it for anacron so it does what is needed |
| 06:16.44 | jaime_silva | every one happy? |
| 06:16.45 | mwilson | jaime_silva: Uh, you have no idea what anacron is, do you? |
| 06:16.58 | jaime_silva | mwilson: you got it |
| 06:17.10 | mwilson | jaime_silva: Since, after all, anacron is in no way any sort of replacement for cron, and in fact REQUIRES cron? |
| 06:17.25 | Guerin | heh |
| 06:17.28 | sussudio | i just talked to someone who wanted to re-encode 130kbps vbr mp3's to 128 because he wanted to make them smaller..................... |
| 06:18.00 | Guerin | sussudio: sounds like my mate who decodes his itunes tracks to wave and then burns them to cd audio so they sound better |
| 06:18.20 | grendal_prime | awww crap |
| 06:18.21 | sussudio | Guerin: did you kill him yet? |
| 06:18.32 | grendal_prime | oops.. did i type that? or just think it? |
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| 06:19.22 | Guerin | sussudio: no, I just laughed at him. |
| 06:19.39 | jm_ | or my ex co-worker, who had this marvelous sony mini-hifi system with MD recorder and the music sounded better when he recorded it on MD from a CD :P |
| 06:20.07 | sussudio | jm_: did you shove the mini-hifi system up his ass? |
| 06:20.18 | squinty | is anyone aware of an application that will brighten up my screen? ie i have an older monitor and it only goes so bright, and its quite dark...i need something that will brighten everything up, im using an nvidia tnt2 with debian |
| 06:20.47 | sussudio | squinty/budluva: yes, buy a new monitor. |
| 06:20.58 | squinty | besides that |
| 06:21.02 | jm_ | sussudio: I just ignore the fucker |
| 06:21.05 | jaime_silva | mwilson: but anacron will update what cron can not because the machine is not turned on all the time, is it right? |
| 06:21.08 | sussudio | what kind of fucking answer do you expect? |
| 06:21.12 | jm_ | squit;try xgamma |
| 06:21.23 | jm_ | squinty: try xgamma |
| 06:21.36 | sussudio | the monitor is old. it is dim. no software is going to rejuvenate it. |
| 06:21.45 | jm_ | yeah, I have a nokia like that |
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| 06:21.59 | Guerin | jaime_silva: leave the machine on, like it's intended to be. |
| 06:22.08 | jm_ | works OK for some 10 minutes, then it goes brighter |
| 06:22.15 | jm_ | err darker |
| 06:22.54 | sussudio | jm_: that'll probably be either some dirty potmeters or the high frequency thingie being a bit old. |
| 06:22.55 | squinty | jm_ install xbase-clients? |
| 06:22.56 | jaime_silva | Guerin: that is not under my control, I can tell the user to keep it on, it will be turned on. |
| 06:23.01 | squinty | apt-cache search xgamma |
| 06:23.01 | squinty | xbase-clients - miscellaneous X clients |
| 06:23.15 | jaime_silva | Guerin: that is not under my control, I can tell the user to keep it on, it will be turned off. |
| 06:23.26 | sussudio | jm_: you could try some contact spray |
| 06:23.30 | Guerin | jaime_silva: so tell them tha if they keep turning it off it'll have to play catchup, and they should just turn the monitor off |
| 06:23.37 | jm_ | squinty: well it will only help you for X - there's little point in installing it if you don't use X |
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| 06:24.02 | Guerin | jaime_silva: or tell them to live with the fact that they're misusing their os, and they should expect it to misbehanve. |
| 06:24.06 | jm_ | sussudio: I bought a new 17" Samsung CRT last year, but yeah, something like that should help |
| 06:24.35 | jaime_silva | Guerin: They will prefer that, you don't know how it is around here |
| 06:24.54 | sussudio | jm_: at least it didn't go purple... i had a samtron that did that.... and the fault was in the entire series of that type of monitor. |
| 06:24.57 | Guerin | the land where people like doing things the hard way, by the sounds |
| 06:25.06 | Guerin | if you're any indication, anyhow |
| 06:25.12 | jaime_silva | Thats true |
| 06:25.32 | jaime_silva | The common user around here can drive you nuts |
| 06:25.45 | sussudio | or give you a colombian necktie |
| 06:25.58 | jaime_silva | Its better to let them do what they want |
| 06:25.58 | sussudio | </miamivice> |
| 06:26.08 | jm_ | sussudio: so far I've had decent expereiences, Sony lasted for some 7 years |
| 06:26.22 | Guerin | jaime_silva: no, it's better to educate people to do things correctly. |
| 06:26.36 | sussudio | Guerin: stupid people don't want to be educated |
| 06:26.36 | squinty | jm_ ok, i've tried xgamma 0 -gamme 15.0 and nothing happens |
| 06:26.44 | squinty | do i have to restart my xsession or what? |
| 06:26.50 | jaime_silva | sussudio: Thats true |
| 06:26.56 | squinty | -gamma 15.0 that is |
| 06:27.20 | jaime_silva | there are some people who just wont use the computers as it is suppoused to |
| 06:27.36 | sussudio | then let them buy a typewriter if they want to use a typewriter. |
| 06:27.38 | jm_ | squinty: no, it works immediately, try 2.2 |
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| 06:28.19 | Techdeck | Hey, can anyone remind me what was the manual name of the linux structure? like the meanings of /bin /opt etc? |
| 06:28.25 | jaime_silva | if you walk to a regular compurer class around here, not in a professional college but in a garage schools (as we name them) the first class is about how to turn on and off the computer |
| 06:28.43 | jaime_silva | and they keep doing it every time they intend to use it |
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| 06:29.16 | sussudio | i'm sure someone still makes typewriters... if not, they're cheap secondhand. |
| 06:29.30 | squinty | jm_ hrmm nothing, maybe im not specifing my display properly |
| 06:29.42 | squinty | how do i tell what display im using? |
| 06:29.47 | squinty | should be 0:0 right? |
| 06:29.53 | jm_ | squinty: it will connect to current display |
| 06:29.56 | fbtab | greetings all |
| 06:30.02 | jaime_silva | squinty: echo $DISPLAY |
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| 06:30.25 | sussudio | 1402 hites on typewriter on ebay |
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| 06:30.36 | squinty | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:30.39 | squinty | lol nothing |
| 06:30.40 | squinty | wtf |
| 06:30.53 | squinty | jm_ so just xgamma -gamma 2.2 |
| 06:30.54 | squinty | ? |
| 06:31.19 | squinty | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.19 | squinty | xgamma: unable to open display '' |
| 06:31.22 | jm_ | squinty: yes |
| 06:31.26 | jaime_silva | OK cron is needed -> logrotate (or fill the disk) |
| 06:31.27 | sussudio | yes, the fuckard isn't in X... |
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| 06:31.36 | jm_ | and all that despite my warning |
| 06:31.51 | sussudio | yes, i recall several people mentioning that Xgamma only works under X.... |
| 06:31.59 | squinty | im in x |
| 06:32.00 | jm_ | squinty: do it as user who started X, not as root |
| 06:32.01 | sussudio | but hey, it's budluva, what do you expect? |
| 06:32.05 | Moraiat | Guerin: you still at it? |
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| 06:32.23 | hairy_potter | 'ssup? |
| 06:32.40 | squinty | jm_ nar, still the same |
| 06:32.43 | Moraiat | another spammer methinks |
| 06:32.53 | jm_ | squinty: then your setup is fucked |
| 06:32.54 | jaime_silva | so how do you feel about this: apt-get install cron anacron -exim xmail |
| 06:33.18 | squinty | jm_ well x works fine, its just dark as hell because of my monitor |
| 06:33.26 | squinty | i dont think my setup is fucked |
| 06:33.38 | jm_ | squinty: I didn't say it doesn't, just that your setup is fucked |
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| 06:35.12 | jaime_silva | I think he is using CTRL+ALT+F1 to open the console instead of an xterm :D |
| 06:35.32 | squinty | no |
| 06:35.34 | squinty | im in xserver |
| 06:35.39 | squinty | using xterm |
| 06:35.48 | jaime_silva | squinty: I'm just joking |
| 06:36.10 | jm_ | then why does your shell not have DISPLAY set ? |
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| 06:36.58 | jaime_silva | try typing 'export' and then see if it is in the listed environment vars |
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| 06:37.59 | Moraiat | calgary?! |
| 06:38.00 | Moraiat | booo |
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| 06:39.22 | atrus | Moraiat: meh. i just got back from christmas in edmonton. soaked up enough to last me a while :) |
| 06:39.34 | gb | Sumone please suggest the name of a browseable blog cache to use with lynx thats apt-getable or available as source? |
| 06:39.38 | Moraiat | atrus: edmonton rox! |
| 06:39.54 | austra | its funny my mplayer has sound sumtimes, but most times it just goes quiet, no audio at all,pls help anyone? |
| 06:40.19 | sussudio | austra: #mplayer |
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| 06:41.38 | Moraiat | atrus: did calgary get hit with the crazy storms too? |
| 06:41.55 | Moraiat | well...not so crazy in comparison but... |
| 06:42.20 | atrus | Moraiat: which? looks like we both had some decent cold weather and snow |
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| 06:43.04 | sussudio | ... we're observing the wild canuck in its natural habitat. they seem to be communicating about the weather. steve will now annoy them by shoving his thumb up one of their buttholes |
| 06:43.16 | gb | jaime_silva: wish in one hand, piss in the other & see which gets full first :) |
| 06:43.17 | Moraiat | atrus: crazy winds and stuff went threw edmonton a little while ago. but not so crazy in comparison to indonesia. |
| 06:43.25 | Moraiat | sussudio: AH YOU BASTARD! |
| 06:43.28 | Moraiat | :P |
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| 06:44.55 | Moraiat | gb: ewwwww |
| 06:45.12 | dubbaluga | i want to apply the mm patch with "make-kpkg --added-patches" - can anyone tell me how to do this? |
| 06:45.16 | gb | Moraiat: whaa? |
| 06:45.45 | sussudio | dubbaluga: i bet the manpages can. |
| 06:45.46 | Moraiat | gb: you shouldn't piss into your hand |
| 06:46.06 | gb | lynx does the job nicely of browsing pages, but I need a decent caching tool thats all which unlike squid caches in a readable fashion :) |
| 06:46.21 | gb | ohh that sorry :) |
| 06:46.25 | cdb | hmm. i've got exim4 set up to relay mail to a smarthost for delivery. this works fine when using mailx. when using mutt (with set envelope_from = yes) the mail doesn't get delivered. any suggestions on what else i can look in to tweaking so it'll work sending mail from mutt? |
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| 06:46.42 | dubbaluga | i've already red them, but do i have to create a script that applies the patch or can I use the patchfile directly? |
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| 06:46.59 | dubbaluga | sussudio, i've already red them, but do i have to create a script that applies the patch or can I use the patchfile directly? (sorry) |
| 06:47.23 | sussudio | dubbaluga: "patch" is a program. see "man patch". |
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| 06:47.40 | squinty | jm_ well i got xgamma working |
| 06:47.51 | squinty | jm_ xgamma -display :0.0 -gamma 2.2 |
| 06:47.53 | squinty | works fine |
| 06:47.59 | squinty | thank you for the help |
| 06:48.18 | jm_ | squinty: you can also set it in config file |
| 06:48.22 | jaime_silva | dubbaluga: I guess all you have to do is put the patch in some patches directory in /usr/src |
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| 06:49.00 | dubbaluga | sussudio, jaime_silva , yes, that's true: In the above, ALL_PATCH_DIR defaults to a subdirectory of /usr/src/kernel-patches/. |
| 06:49.30 | jasonf | how do you run an X app in a root terminal? |
| 06:49.40 | jasonf | I keep getting a "cannot attach display error" |
| 06:49.49 | jm_ | jasonf: /msg dpkg sux ; /msg dpkg runstuffasroot ; /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie |
| 06:50.06 | jaime_silva | dubbaluga: There is an option that installs automatically the patches |
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| 06:50.41 | atrus | Moraiat: 'a while' as in those storms a week or 2 back? |
| 06:50.48 | dubbaluga | jaime_silva, do I have to write a kind of wrapper-script that applies the patch via "patch"? |
| 06:51.15 | dubbaluga | jaime_silva, or can I use it as I downloaded it from kernel.org? |
| 06:52.06 | jaime_silva | dubbaluga: As far as I remember you use a make-kpkg option that automatically applies the patches from that dir, you don't have to use a script or anything else |
| 06:52.23 | dubbaluga | jaime_silva, ok, thank you, I'll give it a try! |
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| 06:52.44 | budluva | is gnome2 stable yet? |
| 06:53.18 | gb | budluva: depends on the rock which you place it on :) |
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| 06:54.30 | gb | that apt-getable? |
| 06:54.41 | budluva | gb, yeah |
| 06:55.10 | Moraiat | Cthulfuego:give me waffle cookies! |
| 06:55.22 | Cthulfuego | Moraiat: NEE! |
| 06:55.41 | CAiRO | how again can i turn off that apache automatically appends a / to directory names when it is missing? |
| 06:55.51 | Moraiat | NOO? |
| 06:55.55 | Moraiat | no no no NEE |
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| 06:56.00 | jaime_silva | but 2.6 (in sarge) last time I checked |
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| 06:56.16 | dob | hi |
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| 06:56.35 | jaime_silva | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:56.43 | Stereo | hello, I just installed the latest 2.6 kernel image package on i386 and after rebooting my USB keyboard stopped working. I've got usbhid, usbkbd and usbcore loaded as modules. All I get when I un/plug the keyboard or another keyboard is a couple of beeps. |
| 06:57.07 | Stereo | I've tried googling and can't find anything related to my problem |
| 06:57.35 | Stereo | anyone seen this before? |
| 06:57.53 | dob | it is normal that if i put in syslog.conf "local2.* "/var/log/spamassassin.log" and i start spamassassin with spamd -s local2 it continue to writhe its log in other files more than /var/log/spamassasin? |
| 06:58.04 | jaime_silva | Stereo: have you installed hotplug? |
| 06:58.24 | Stereo | installing now |
| 06:58.28 | simonrvn | dob: yes |
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| 06:58.42 | simonrvn | dob: i've tried to do a similar thing |
| 06:58.59 | dob | simonrvn: and there is no way to do this ? |
| 06:59.03 | Stereo | jaime_silva: no changes |
| 06:59.15 | simonrvn | dob: i have tried *all* kinds of things |
| 06:59.18 | Cthulfuego | dob: yes, unless you restart syslogd as well ;-) |
| 06:59.33 | dob | i restarted syslog |
| 06:59.36 | jaime_silva | Stereo: unload the usb modules and restart hotplug, check /var/log/messages meanwhile |
| 06:59.40 | Cthulfuego | Hmm, SA buggy? |
| 06:59.46 | simonrvn | Cthulfuego: it will log to mail.* |
| 07:00.00 | dob | Cthulfuego: on #spamassassin they said it is a syslog issue |
| 07:00.03 | Cthulfuego | simonrvn: Well, it's a perl script, just hack it. |
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| 07:00.04 | simonrvn | won't log anywhere else, besides syslog |
| 07:00.14 | simonrvn | Cthulfuego: i'd rather not |
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| 07:00.35 | iceman | I tried to remove sr_mod with modconf, and it kind of froze.. I struck ctrl-c, and now I have this process 'modprobe -r sr_mod' that seems to be immortal |
| 07:00.35 | jaime_silva | Stereo: rmmod usb*; /etc/init.d/hotplug stop; /etc/init.d/hotplug start |
| 07:01.05 | simonrvn | the spamassassin executable is rather small actually. it's the modules behind it that do most of the work |
| 07:01.25 | jaime_silva | he he anacron is intended for laptops, I guess people around here uses its desktops as laptops |
| 07:01.30 | simonrvn | iceman: you're fucked. reboot |
| 07:02.00 | simonrvn | iceman: it *may* time out. like next year |
| 07:02.06 | jaime_silva | why are they called laptops, have anyone noticed it fries your lap (and everything in between) :D |
| 07:02.08 | Stereo | ERROR: Module usbcore is in use |
| 07:02.19 | Cthulfuego | simonrvn: Yeah, they sues Sys::Sysllog (which rgrep reckons I don't have) |
| 07:02.32 | budluva | can someone suggest a good site for themes/backgrounds for gnome? |
| 07:02.40 | jetscreamer | yes, laptops have secret radiation that sterilizes you |
| 07:02.42 | budluva | and is there any besides art.gnome.org |
| 07:02.43 | budluva | ? |
| 07:02.50 | jaime_silva | Stereo: lsmod | grep usb; then remove what is using it |
| 07:02.59 | Cthulfuego | No, I lie. |
| 07:03.30 | iceman | simonrvn: should I just reboot and try it again, or mabye some different approach? |
| 07:03.33 | simonrvn | budluva: gnome.look.org or something |
| 07:03.37 | jetscreamer | it's really a lapstop |
| 07:03.50 | Stereo | jaime_silva: yeah, just did that, it was ehci_hcd whatever that is. It still gives me the same message, lsmod gives me usbcore 119012 1 |
| 07:03.53 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: vs. it being a doorstop? |
| 07:03.56 | jaime_silva | budluva: themes.org still exists? |
| 07:04.05 | jm_ | dob: using -D will tell you the facility it uses for logging |
| 07:04.10 | budluva | i dunno ill check jaime_silva |
| 07:04.13 | Stereo | want me to try a lsof? |
| 07:04.14 | simonrvn | mail |
| 07:04.34 | jetscreamer | speaking of gay-o-ell |
| 07:04.59 | Cthulfuego | Just for fun, edit it and make it include Razor:2:Syslog instead of Sys::Syslog |
| 07:05.01 | jetscreamer | how can they keepcustomers with all the ads in their faces |
| 07:05.08 | Cthulfuego | s/:2/2:/ |
| 07:05.34 | jaime_silva | Stereo: ala windoze -> reboot hehehe, no then rmmod ehci_hcd usbcore |
| 07:06.02 | Stereo | ok, I'll try rebooting |
| 07:06.11 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: it's like on the street. people are constantly bombarded with ads, yet they do not whine about the obscenity of all that crap in their face all the time. same idea |
| 07:06.19 | Moraiat | IT WORKS!!! |
| 07:06.20 | Moraiat | YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 07:06.38 | Stereo | booting now, beeping and blinking like the world's about to start |
| 07:07.01 | jetscreamer | not stupid, ignorant. |
| 07:07.07 | simonrvn | yup, i agree |
| 07:07.11 | Cthulfuego | well well |
| 07:07.17 | simonrvn | i don't get it either |
| 07:07.23 | jaime_silva | Stereo: no, don't reboot! |
| 07:07.32 | Stereo | whoops |
| 07:07.34 | fusion | Er does anyone know how I might get a sony DSC working in debian?? |
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| 07:07.41 | Stereo | too late |
| 07:07.52 | jetscreamer | i got one going it's pretty straightforward, fusion |
| 07:07.54 | Stereo | hmm |
| 07:08.03 | Stereo | but then the keyboard started working it seems |
| 07:08.04 | fusion | jetscreamer: what did you use? |
| 07:08.11 | jaime_silva | Stereo: anyway try removing the usb modules listen in /etc/modules so they don't get loaded at startup and hotplug runs its magic |
| 07:08.23 | jetscreamer | sda1 and the usbstuff |
| 07:08.28 | Stereo | maybe discover did its magic |
| 07:08.44 | Stereo | I'll just ssh into it again |
| 07:08.44 | jetscreamer | just mounted it vfat |
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| 07:09.02 | jaime_silva | Stereo: You can also remove them with modconf but I guess editing /etc/modules is faster |
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| 07:09.13 | mazu | greetings all |
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| 07:09.23 | fusion | ehh I have no idea how to do that........ |
| 07:09.39 | Wily | hi all |
| 07:09.50 | Wily | are there italian? |
| 07:10.09 | Stereo | jaime_silva: actually, it's working now |
| 07:10.15 | mazu | Wily, italian famous for pizza :) |
| 07:10.21 | Wily | i've a problem |
| 07:10.29 | mazu | yeah? |
| 07:10.30 | Moraiat | isn't there an italian irc? |
| 07:10.33 | Moraiat | for debian? |
| 07:10.34 | simonrvn | Wily: #debian.it or -it |
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| 07:10.50 | Moraiat | wily: join #debian.it |
| 07:10.55 | jaime_silva | Stereo: so I guess hotplug worked |
| 07:10.58 | simonrvn | @italian |
| 07:11.00 | ravenbird | well, italian is someone who comes from Italy. #debian.it or #linux-it |
| 07:11.00 | Stereo | yeah, guess so |
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| 07:11.28 | Moraiat | shit i want some sicilian pizza now |
| 07:11.38 | mazu | dominos for me |
| 07:11.44 | sussudio | tasso tasso tasso tasso |
| 07:11.49 | jetscreamer | well fusion i loaded up 'some' modules for the sda thang(wtf is sda, scsi?) had usbfs and all that loaded too, and made an fstab entry like this: #/dev/sda1/mnt/cameravfatrw,user,noauto,gid=24,uid=100100 |
| 07:11.49 | sussudio | fungo fungo. |
| 07:12.06 | mazu | actually, dominos is poor taste compared to pan fried pizza |
| 07:12.23 | sussudio | Cthulfuego: serpiente |
| 07:12.40 | fusion | okay thanks |
| 07:12.47 | sussudio | in soviet russia, pizza has you. |
| 07:12.54 | Stereo | jaime_silva: thank you :D |
| 07:13.03 | jaime_silva | please no food talking i'm getting hungry |
| 07:13.07 | Stereo | sussudio: in korea, only old people eat pizza |
| 07:13.08 | Cthulfuego | A nice change from my usual nacho pizza |
| 07:13.09 | jaime_silva | Stereo: no prob |
| 07:13.10 | jetscreamer | fusion, it may have been the simplest thing i ever got going in linux :) |
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| 07:13.42 | jaime_silva | Stereo: it also autodetects an configures pci devices and firewire i guess |
| 07:13.46 | budluva | how can i tell what version of gnome i have installed? |
| 07:13.55 | Stereo | like discover? |
| 07:13.59 | Cthulfuego | budluva: dpkg -l gnome-core |
| 07:14.00 | jetscreamer | budluva, the gnome about thang |
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| 07:14.08 | Stereo | I'll have to try hotplugging pci cards! |
| 07:14.26 | jetscreamer | Stereo, you need the hardware for it, don't use just any box |
| 07:14.32 | Cthulfuego | Stereo: get yourself a spare mobo before you do that on just any old pc. |
| 07:14.44 | budluva | wtf |
| 07:14.47 | budluva | gnome version 61 |
| 07:14.48 | budluva | ? |
| 07:14.53 | Stereo | yeah, just kidding |
| 07:14.54 | Cthulfuego | budluva: woo! |
| 07:14.57 | jaime_silva | budluva: dpkg -S /usr/lib/libgnome* |
| 07:14.59 | jetscreamer | no that's the gnome metapackage version |
| 07:15.14 | jetscreamer | metapackages seem to be numbered similar to that |
| 07:15.30 | budluva | i see alot of 2.so.0 |
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| 07:15.34 | budluva | so gnome2 then? |
| 07:15.46 | jetscreamer | budluva, if you're running gnome, hit the about thing, just like in windows |
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| 07:16.20 | jetscreamer | but unless you're woodying it, you have 2.8 |
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| 07:17.23 | jaime_silva | so 2.8 is already packaged for sarge? since when? last week it was 2.6 |
| 07:17.45 | jetscreamer | it may not be all the way in but it's in there |
| 07:17.54 | dcstimm | hey guys, I have been trying man grep, man find, but i am trying to find a way to have a list of files over 100mb in size that are located in my home directory, could someone help me a bit? |
| 07:18.07 | jm_ | dcstimm: info find |
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| 07:18.58 | dcstimm | jm_, like I said, Iv looked though it.. I dont see what im looking for, is it +size 100mb? |
| 07:19.02 | jaime_silva | budluva: sorry, try: dpkg -l gnome-session |
| 07:19.10 | jm_ | dcstimm: no you didn't |
| 07:19.13 | dcstimm | -size +200000 |
| 07:19.54 | dcstimm | find /home/dcstimm/ -size +100000 |
| 07:20.06 | jetscreamer | not --size? |
| 07:20.21 | dcstimm | find: invalid predicate `--size' |
| 07:20.55 | DerJamster | Mornin |
| 07:21.50 | jaime_silva | dcstimm: du -m $HOME | sort -n -r | less <- It will list the files from the biggest to the smallest |
| 07:23.44 | jaime_silva | ops it will list directories :D |
| 07:24.58 | jaime_silva | dcstimm: if you use 'du -m -a $HOME' instead it will list files |
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| 07:27.48 | Thanatermesis | hello |
| 07:27.55 | Tom- | Hi! |
| 07:28.01 | streuner | jetscreamer: J E T S C R E A M E R ! |
| 07:28.04 | Thanatermesis | any person is posible to paste me a dpkg -L in #flood please? |
| 07:28.13 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> please paste me the "dpkg -L frozen-bubble-data" |
| 07:28.13 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> ? |
| 07:28.13 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> and frozen-bubble |
| 07:28.37 | sussudio | !tell Thanatermesis about FOAD |
| 07:28.40 | fusion | heh I just did mode PTP on cam setup and did gphoto2 --auto-detect and then --get-all-files and it worked fine |
| 07:29.05 | Thanatermesis | sussudio, ? |
| 07:29.09 | Thanatermesis | any person is posible to paste me a dpkg -L in #flood please? |
| 07:29.19 | streuner | heh |
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| 07:29.38 | streuner | Do you really know what 'dpkg -L' do? |
| 07:30.07 | streuner | it will list you the contents of a package, dpkg -L foo |
| 07:30.13 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> please paste me the "dpkg -L frozen-bubble-data" |
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| 07:30.17 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> and frozen-bubble |
| 07:30.21 | jaime_silva | He needs to se the contents of the package Thanatermesis goto packages.gnome.org |
| 07:30.32 | dcstimm | what is the cp command that wont change any permistions on any files when copying? i want to do cp -aR /home/dcstimm /mnt/place/for/backup but I want it to retain all the permisions |
| 07:30.47 | Thanatermesis | no te entiendo jaime_silva |
| 07:30.51 | Thanatermesis | no hablo inglis |
| 07:31.06 | Thanatermesis | dcstimm, cp -p |
| 07:31.13 | jaime_silva | en packages.debian.org puedes ver el contenido de los paquetes |
| 07:31.24 | dcstimm | Thanatermesis, you sure? its not -aR? |
| 07:31.36 | jm_ | -a implies -R |
| 07:31.42 | jm_ | as well as -p |
| 07:31.43 | Thanatermesis | dcstimm, cp -Rp is a perfect copy |
| 07:32.01 | dcstimm | so -a is a perfect copy? |
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| 07:32.27 | teeks | neither debian install nor alsaconf (the sound configurer) installs an important module ... snd-seq-midi. Where is the best place to put the line "modprobe snd-seq-midi" is the boot sequence? |
| 07:32.42 | teeks | in the boot sequence |
| 07:32.49 | jm_ | teeks: use /etc/modules or /etc/modules-2.6 |
| 07:32.59 | streuner | teeks: snd-seq-midi is OSS |
| 07:32.59 | Thanatermesis | any person is posible to paste me a dpkg -L in #flood please? |
| 07:33.07 | jaime_silva | dcstimm: I understant that -a keeps all permisions, owner, etc. |
| 07:33.07 | teeks | jm_: modules.conf? |
| 07:33.13 | jm_ | teeks: no |
| 07:33.25 | Thanatermesis | :'( |
| 07:33.33 | jm_ | Thanatermesis: no, go to packages.debian.org to get a list of files in those packages |
| 07:33.44 | jaime_silva | teeks: /etc/modutils |
| 07:33.53 | jaime_silva | teeks: see the modutils docs |
| 07:34.01 | streuner | heh |
| 07:34.06 | jm_ | chances ar ehe's not using modutils |
| 07:34.20 | streuner | wtf is going on? |
| 07:34.38 | jm_ | streuner: earth started rotatin in a different direction! |
| 07:34.45 | streuner | haha |
| 07:34.53 | jaime_silva | teeks: just: echo "snd-seq-midi" >> /etc/modules; reboot |
| 07:35.03 | teeks | streuner: OK. I have been confused by OSS and ALSA |
| 07:35.30 | streuner | teeks: so what do you running, ALSA or OSS? |
| 07:36.06 | jaime_silva | If he's using kernel 2.6 I guess is alsa |
| 07:36.22 | teeks | ALSA with a 2.6 |
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| 07:36.57 | streuner | teeks: run 'lsmod' if you find there modules for your soundcard that starts with 'snd'-foo, its ALSA |
| 07:37.35 | teeks | streuner: yes - many snd-* modules |
| 07:37.42 | streuner | teeks: you don't need to put them into /etc/modules after running alsaconfig |
| 07:37.57 | jetscreamer | omg<S>treuner-wtf--- |
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| 07:38.08 | streuner | teeks: but some people prefer that, its not bad |
| 07:38.11 | teeks | snd-seq-midi is non-existant |
| 07:38.15 | jetscreamer | !alsa-bork |
| 07:38.15 | dpkg | hmm... alsa-bork is modprobe snd-<soundcard-module> ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss, and maybe apt-get install gnome-alsamixer or alsamixergui |
| 07:38.26 | streuner | teeks: custom kernel? |
| 07:38.27 | jetscreamer | try modconf even |
| 07:38.29 | jasonf | why -bork? |
| 07:38.29 | jasonf | lol |
| 07:38.46 | jetscreamer | alsa always seems to bork on first time users eh |
| 07:38.52 | jasonf | ah |
| 07:38.57 | jasonf | It worked perfect my first time |
| 07:39.00 | jetscreamer | borked the ehll out of me |
| 07:39.03 | jasonf | it borked the second and third |
| 07:39.03 | jasonf | lol |
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| 07:39.23 | jetscreamer | d-i did a good job, but me doing it bit |
| 07:39.33 | teeks | streuner: No. I will be getting the realtime-lsm package installed soon |
| 07:39.39 | jasonf | I compile my own kernels now |
| 07:39.43 | jasonf | so it's no longer an issue |
| 07:39.57 | teeks | jaime_silva: thanks for that. seems like a good idea |
| 07:40.09 | puff | Anybody good with security? |
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| 07:40.29 | puff | I'm seeing some signs my box has been cracked... trying to figure out what I can do. |
| 07:40.35 | streuner | puff: yeah, unplug the cable to your i-net connection? |
| 07:40.35 | jetscreamer | me too. after i made alsa finally worked, the sound sucked cuz it had a lot of pops and stuff, so i went back to oss |
| 07:40.37 | jasonf | puff: chkrootkit |
| 07:40.40 | jasonf | puff: and read logs |
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| 07:40.51 | jaime_silva | lag ? |
| 07:40.53 | puff | Which logs? |
| 07:40.58 | jasonf | puff: all of them |
| 07:41.09 | budluva | ok, im having a problem, im currently in gnome, and want to go to fluxbox, when i logout, it just shoots me to console, then i type startx and it sends me straight into gnome, what happened to gdm? i have gdm set to graphical greeter |
| 07:41.10 | streuner | puff: /var/log/ |
| 07:41.11 | eggr | Anyone here know if there is a way to make xine pop up if a dvd is placed into my dvd drive automatically? |
| 07:41.19 | puff | Big help. |
| 07:41.41 | puff | Hm, is chrootkit in apt? |
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| 07:41.51 | jetscreamer | less /etc/X11/default-display-manager && /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 07:41.52 | streuner | puff: anyway, if it was a profi you don't see on that logs something then... |
| 07:42.01 | jetscreamer | yes apt-get install it |
| 07:42.09 | jetscreamer | chkrootkit |
| 07:42.11 | streuner | !info chkrootkit |
| 07:42.11 | puff | Ah, chkrootkit, not chrootkit. |
| 07:42.13 | dpkg | chkrootkit: (Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.44-2 (sid), Packaged size: 224 kB, Installed size: 652 kB |
| 07:42.13 | jaime_silva | When I had alsa working I realized wine games won't sound |
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| 07:42.28 | streuner | !info tiger |
| 07:42.34 | dpkg | tiger: (Report system security vulnerabilities), section admin, is optional. Version: 1:3.2.1-16 (sid), Packaged size: 518 kB, Installed size: 2524 kB |
| 07:42.37 | jetscreamer | !etch |
| 07:42.37 | dpkg | [etch] the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge. See http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
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| 07:42.46 | jetscreamer | etch-a-sketch |
| 07:42.50 | jetscreamer | !etch-a-sketch |
| 07:42.59 | puff | Basically, we got cracked a month ago, rebuilt the box from the ground up, installed triger, tiger notified me about some stuff and I recognized the username as the cracker's. |
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| 07:43.28 | grivell | !jetstreamer |
| 07:43.34 | jasonf | puff: you need to get better at securing stuff them |
| 07:43.45 | teeks | streuner jaime_silva jm_ : thanks - see you after the reboot |
| 07:43.47 | puff | So now I'm trying to figure out a) how'd he get back in, b) how do I determine if he's done anything nasty yet, and c) how to track the guy down. |
| 07:43.51 | jaime_silva | budluva: change your session in gdm menu to system default so it will use your ~/.xinitrc |
| 07:43.54 | puff | jasonf: You're a big help. |
| 07:43.56 | jaime_silva | budluva: change your session in gdm menu to system default so it will use your ~/.xsession |
| 07:44.18 | jasonf | puff: I'm serious! I had to learn about stuff like that too ... like setting some perms, keeping stuff up to date and firewalled |
| 07:44.24 | grivell | !jetstreamer |
| 07:44.24 | dpkg | jetstreamer is probably a heavy user of the bots. |
| 07:44.26 | jasonf | puff: a daily log email of who logged into the server is nice too |
| 07:44.28 | grivell | :-P |
| 07:44.35 | jaime_silva | glup! I hope |
| 07:44.42 | jasonf | !grivell |
| 07:45.05 | jetscreamer | who is jetstreamer |
| 07:45.09 | puff | chkrootkit seems to report nothing found. |
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| 07:45.11 | jasonf | !grivell |
| 07:45.11 | dpkg | [grivell] probably even worse than jetstreamer |
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| 07:45.22 | grivell | hehe |
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| 07:45.32 | grivell | I like it |
| 07:45.48 | jetscreamer | dpkg, jetstreamer is also not here |
| 07:45.48 | dpkg | jetscreamer: okay |
| 07:46.05 | streuner | puff: how did you find out, that your system is cracked, anyway? |
| 07:46.16 | tricaric | debian/opteron? |
| 07:46.27 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 07:46.31 | jaime_silva | I hope he used >> instead of > in that |
| 07:46.41 | puff | AFAIK, we're doing all the stuff we're supposed to do, using security.debian.org, installed tiger, bastille, harden-tools |
| 07:46.42 | jasonf | grivell: ask dpkg about me :-p |
| 07:47.09 | grivell | hah! |
| 07:47.26 | jetscreamer | dpkg, me |
| 07:47.26 | dpkg | jetscreamer is not to be fucked with. |
| 07:47.31 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 07:47.36 | puff | streuner: tiger emailed me about the cracker account (which is the same name as the previous cracker account) not having password aging enabled. |
| 07:47.38 | streuner | puff: is someone of your users crack the system, how much help do you think could that help what packages you have installed or not? |
| 07:47.48 | streuner | s/is/if/ |
| 07:47.56 | jetscreamer | i didn't know it would do that |
| 07:48.00 | puff | streuner: Yeah, there's the possibility that it's one of my regular users, but I don't reallythink that's the case... |
| 07:48.09 | puff | Very small number of users, I know most of them personally. |
| 07:48.15 | Tom- | I just sent the modprobe command into an infinite memory allocating loop, do I get a prize? |
| 07:48.20 | streuner | hm |
| 07:48.36 | jkg | Tom-: sure, you broke it, both pieces are yours to keep ;) |
| 07:48.37 | jetscreamer | yes. the prize of the monkey. |
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| 07:48.57 | Tom- | yay :-) |
| 07:49.09 | jetscreamer | !congratulate Tom- |
| 07:49.10 | dpkg | Yay Tom-, you did it! |
| 07:49.11 | streuner | puff: personal things are usually have the highest prior... |
| 07:49.11 | jasonf | dpkg: me |
| 07:49.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, jasonf is my worst enemy |
| 07:49.14 | swim_ | hi does anyone know where I can get a 6111 nvidia-glx package? |
| 07:49.16 | jasonf | whaa |
| 07:49.35 | jetscreamer | !factinfo jasonf |
| 07:49.35 | dpkg | jasonf -- last modified 42s ago by grivell!~grivell@pcp05900009pcs.glst3401.nj.comcast.net; it has been requested 3 times, last by grivell, 1s ago. |
| 07:49.39 | Tom- | heh :-) |
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| 07:50.08 | jasonf | dpkg: no, jasonf is the co-lead of no-sources (at #no-sources / http://no.oldos.org/files/ ) |
| 07:50.08 | dpkg | okay, jasonf |
| 07:50.19 | puff | Fuck, well. |
| 07:50.29 | jasonf | !jasonf is also the administrator of Old Os (www.oldos.org), the best site for old computer information |
| 07:50.29 | dpkg | jasonf: okay |
| 07:50.30 | streuner | puff: why want someone in sibiria crack my box? </rheotric question> |
| 07:50.32 | jasonf | !lock jasonf |
| 07:50.33 | dpkg | locking factoid jasonf, jasonf |
| 07:50.36 | jasonf | hahaha |
| 07:51.01 | grivell | jasonf: evil you are :-) |
| 07:51.09 | jasonf | dpkg: me |
| 07:51.09 | dpkg | [jasonf] the co-lead of no-sources (at #no-sources / http://no.oldos.org/files/ ), or the administrator of Old Os (www.oldos.org), the best site for old computer information |
| 07:51.48 | zu22 | jasonf: what is your project about? |
| 07:51.48 | puff | streuner: Based on some of the clues from last month, I actually think it's someone local. |
| 07:51.54 | grivell | dpkg: me |
| 07:51.54 | dpkg | from memory, grivell is probably even worse than jetstreamer! |
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| 07:52.06 | puff | Or at least somebody with a predilection for cracking boxes in my geographical area... |
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| 07:52.17 | jasonf | zu22: /topic #no-sources |
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| 07:54.30 | budluva | can someone suggest a good video player for debian? |
| 07:54.57 | will` | mplayer |
| 07:55.10 | grivell | xine, totem, kaffeine |
| 07:55.12 | jetscreamer | xine |
| 07:55.24 | grivell | kaffeine is better interface. So is totem |
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| 07:55.36 | jetscreamer | totem-xine, not totem-gstreamer |
| 07:55.39 | budluva | what is a good player for divx/xvid |
| 07:55.40 | budluva | ? |
| 07:55.40 | will` | or xine |
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| 07:55.42 | grivell | yeah |
| 07:55.54 | streuner | budluva: xine |
| 07:55.56 | will` | i'd go with xine |
| 07:56.09 | drac | hmm, anyone knows when I try to change to doublesize, or fullscreen the video size just stays the way it was, but window grows larger? This is mplayer and xine. |
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| 07:56.12 | jetscreamer | i don't like totem with dual heads though, it fuxors the screen |
| 07:56.13 | jaime_silva | mplayer!!! if you can expend 4 hours downloading and setting up the codecs |
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| 07:56.17 | tsg424 | hi, what is the use of a *.pbx file? |
| 07:56.18 | will` | in a phone home script for a laptop where it sends an e-mail each time cron runs during startup, is the only purpose of traceroute to get the current ip address of the laptop? |
| 07:56.28 | cornflake | when is debian going to release to the 2.6.10 kernel? |
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| 07:56.41 | streuner | cornflake: /msg dpkg wir |
| 07:56.45 | jetscreamer | my spanish sucks btw |
| 07:56.48 | grivell | cornflake: Why does it matter? |
| 07:56.58 | cornflake | grivell: i'm just wondering |
| 07:57.12 | jetscreamer | i have a .10 kernel, so they can take their time |
| 07:57.19 | streuner | cornflake: 2.6.10 is just one day out... |
| 07:57.21 | grivell | cornflake: All security probs known are fixed in latest 2.6.9-3.dpkg :) |
| 07:57.36 | cornflake | grivell: i see... |
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| 07:58.38 | jaime_silva | budluva: mplayer is the best but you have to compile it from source |
| 07:58.48 | jetscreamer | no you don't |
| 07:58.52 | drac | jaime_silva: why? apt-get install mplayer ? |
| 07:58.53 | jetscreamer | !marillat |
| 07:58.53 | dpkg | add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main to your sources.list. Change stable to testing or unstable according to the distribution you are using. "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main". |
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| 07:59.16 | jetscreamer | mplayer ^^ |
| 07:59.45 | will` | xine / mplayer, look at each's site and see what's right for you |
| 08:00.02 | jetscreamer | mplayer is cool in console :) freak me out |
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| 08:00.17 | jaime_silva | jetscreamer: Have you tried gmplayer? |
| 08:00.26 | streuner | yeah, and it has such nice pictures ;-) |
| 08:00.32 | jaime_silva | drac: mplayer is distributed only in source |
| 08:00.39 | streuner | heh |
| 08:00.49 | jetscreamer | maybe a few months ago, seems to me didn't like it, maybe it's better now |
| 08:00.55 | streuner | debs are avaiable at marillat's site |
| 08:01.24 | jaime_silva | I've tried xine but mplayer decodes more movies than xine and takes full advantage of your system features |
| 08:01.25 | drac | jaime_silva: there is package mplayer and package w32codes in .deb's at ftp.nerim.net as shown above. |
| 08:01.28 | jetscreamer | mplayer is my least fav though |
| 08:01.49 | jetscreamer | there's all kinds of a/v stuff on marillat |
| 08:01.59 | jaime_silva | drac: I suggest compiling it, but w32codecs will save some time |
| 08:02.01 | streuner | jaime_silva: that's a codec issue, if you have those installed its no problem at all. |
| 08:02.04 | classko | http://www.geexbox.org |
| 08:02.31 | FreeSOB | ANyone know a way to FORCE a pkg to be rem oved n o matter what? |
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| 08:02.43 | helix | ‽ |
| 08:02.47 | helix | hm |
| 08:02.47 | jaime_silva | streuner: Does xine use the same mplayer w32 codecs? and all those codecs you can download from mplayer's home page? |
| 08:02.48 | streuner | jaime_silva: but your right, wmv or such runs better in mplayer |
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| 08:03.34 | streuner | jaime_silva: no idea, what the exact contents of w32codecs, but you have a problem to run wmv or such. |
| 08:04.31 | streuner | in xine |
| 08:04.47 | FreeSOB | Anyone? |
| 08:05.06 | streuner | what package? |
| 08:05.13 | budluva | hrmm |
| 08:05.20 | budluva | xine plays fine, just no audio |
| 08:05.38 | budluva | can someone give me a link for sarge audio configuration? |
| 08:05.38 | streuner | set it up to ALSA or OSS |
| 08:05.45 | streuner | !sound |
| 08:05.46 | dpkg | To configure sound in Debian *Woody*: first, use modconf to load your driver. Then add yourself to the audio group (adduser username audio) and logout and back in. If you use ISA PnP and 2.2.x, ask me about "isapnp sound". If you don't know what driver to use, start with "lspci -v" and "pnpdump". Install a mixer (e.g. aumix) and make sure the volume is not set to zero in software. If you have no modules, ask me about "idepci". |
| 08:06.08 | streuner | budluva: nothing changed, no matter if you use woody or sarge or sid |
| 08:06.12 | FreeSOB | streuner: icu |
| 08:06.27 | zu22 | is there Debian package i can use to flash my DVD firmware? it was accidentally flashed with the wrong firmware! i tried to do it in Windoze but since I don't have floppy drive it wouldn't let me |
| 08:06.39 | jaime_silva | streuner: w32codecs is just a set check http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/install.html#id2835165 |
| 08:06.46 | calmar | the marrilat site does not work here. aptitude claims: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable/main Packages... |
| 08:07.14 | budluva | ok, lspci shows my soundcard |
| 08:07.38 | puff | Ah, fuck that was scary. Turns out that my brother just created that account an hour or two ago. |
| 08:07.51 | Cthulfuego | Is there a w64codecs package? |
| 08:07.55 | jaime_silva | budluva: If your card is pci maybe hotplug will configure it automatically |
| 08:08.07 | puff | With, coincidentally, a name that closely resembles the account name created by the intruder last month. |
| 08:08.17 | drac | calmar: this might be because there is no sources at ftp.nerim.net. you have added the line wrong. |
| 08:08.22 | puff | One of those nights. |
| 08:08.29 | Cthulfuego | puff: You netter BOFH his account just to be sure. |
| 08:08.59 | FreeSOB | ANyone know a way to FORCE a pkg to be rem oved n o matter what? |
| 08:09.08 | budluva | Installing module snd-ac97-codec. If the device isn't there, or isn't configured correctly, this could cause your system to pause for up to a minute. |
| 08:09.13 | Cthulfuego | FreeSOB: See the --force options to dpkg |
| 08:09.14 | budluva | Installation succeeded. |
| 08:09.16 | jaime_silva | puff: So I you must suspect of your brother xD |
| 08:09.21 | budluva | jaime_silva, thats through modconf |
| 08:09.25 | jaime_silva | puff: So you must suspect of your brother xD |
| 08:09.33 | budluva | i selected snd-ac97-codec |
| 08:09.34 | Cthulfuego | budluva: That's just the codec. Not the actual driver. |
| 08:09.39 | jaime_silva | budluva: apt-get install hotplug |
| 08:09.42 | budluva | ahh ok |
| 08:09.44 | Cthulfuego | budluva: What did lspci say? |
| 08:10.01 | zu22 | any ideas? |
| 08:10.07 | Cthulfuego | !any ideas |
| 08:10.07 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack of condoms, a little thermal paste, and 5 or 6 sex-crazed kittens. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few hours! |
| 08:10.09 | sussudio | !any ideas |
| 08:10.11 | budluva | 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
| 08:10.14 | jaime_silva | Does anyone around here uses hotplug??? It saves lots of time, I hope it gets auto installed in sarge |
| 08:10.17 | sussudio | Cthulfuego: damn you |
| 08:10.25 | Cthulfuego | budluva: snd-via82cxxx |
| 08:10.40 | budluva | hotplug installed |
| 08:10.46 | Cthulfuego | well, that works too |
| 08:10.46 | drac | budluva: snd_ac97_codec 69572 1 snd_via82xx |
| 08:10.51 | calmar | drac: I copied the line from the output above. well, doesn't matter. |
| 08:11.03 | drac | budluva, snd_via82xx is the driver for ac'97 |
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| 08:11.07 | yxa | how do i delete all lines starting with a # using vim? |
| 08:11.11 | sussudio | zu22: btw don't you think it's a bit silly to say "any ideas" 4 minutes after your original question? |
| 08:11.15 | Cthulfuego | drac: For some AC97 chips. |
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| 08:11.30 | drac | budluva: yes, for most of them. not all. |
| 08:11.33 | greptacular | grr.. what is the package that does monitor detection? |
| 08:11.34 | drac | Cthulfuego: you are right. |
| 08:11.36 | Cthulfuego | drac: My SBLive uses it too, as do Intel chips etc. |
| 08:11.41 | puff | Cthulfuego: No need, I can just reach out and thwap him with a rolled up copy of _Software Development_. |
| 08:11.42 | FreeSOB | Cthulfuego: Thx. I did that - but it still refuses to uninstall. Returns error code 1 |
| 08:11.42 | budluva | modprobe snd-via82cxxx && echo "snd-via82cxxx" >> /etc/modules |
| 08:11.42 | budluva | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:11.53 | greptacular | for x i mean |
| 08:11.55 | Cthulfuego | budluva: No, use the module name drac gave you |
| 08:12.04 | budluva | modprobe snd-via82xx && echo "snd-via82cxxx" >> /etc/modules |
| 08:12.05 | Cthulfuego | budluva: snd-via82xx |
| 08:12.06 | budluva | ok? |
| 08:12.09 | budluva | aight |
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| 08:12.17 | Cthulfuego | no 'cx' in there |
| 08:12.36 | greptacular | read-edid! of course. |
| 08:12.51 | zu22 | sussudio: ya got panicky heh |
| 08:13.02 | budluva | ok |
| 08:13.03 | budluva | no errors |
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| 08:13.11 | budluva | sound should be working now correct? |
| 08:13.15 | zu22 | i guess the dvd drive is useless now :( |
| 08:13.23 | FreeSOB | Fuck! |
| 08:13.23 | jaime_silva | green_earz: xserver |
| 08:13.27 | chupie | how do i format a partition w/ the FAT fs? |
| 08:13.38 | jm_ | chupie: man mkfs.vfat |
| 08:13.43 | drac | budluva: /msg dpkg alsa |
| 08:13.44 | chupie | kfo, thx |
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| 08:14.29 | sussudio | zu22: use a dos floppy to boot from. |
| 08:15.11 | sussudio | zu22: btw, if it happens to be a sony drive, you're fucked |
| 08:16.30 | yxa | is there an easy way to strip comments starting with # in a text file? |
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| 08:17.49 | ApEtc | yxa: cat file | grep -v \# > newfile |
| 08:18.04 | ApEtc | yxa: Actually, disregard that |
| 08:18.40 | yxa | that looks right... |
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| 08:18.51 | ApEtc | yxa: That will get all lines that contain #, regardless of location |
| 08:19.27 | yxa | grep -v ^# works |
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| 08:22.17 | Cthulfuego | you don't need a dos floppy to flash a sony drive |
| 08:22.31 | Cthulfuego | which reminds me, they owe me a drive |
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| 08:23.02 | sussudio | Cthulfuego: sony's flash software also doesn't check its destination drive. |
| 08:23.21 | Cthulfuego | sussudio: That's probably because they're evil. |
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| 08:23.34 | Cthulfuego | sussudio: Still, checking a model on a box and on the download shouldn't be too hard |
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| 08:24.22 | sussudio | Cthulfuego: it's easy to hit 0 instead of 1. especially when you're instructing someone over the phone. let's just say sony owes someone 1 dvd-rom drive which got accidently flashed with a cdrw rom. |
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| 08:26.33 | tchino | how can I create rounded pictures with gimp? |
| 08:26.57 | jetscreamer | hit the help thingy |
| 08:27.16 | jetscreamer | google gimp tuts |
| 08:27.29 | budluva | drac, ok, i've installed alsa-source and alsamixergui, when i go to fire up alsamixergui i get aslamixer: function snd-ctl-open failed for default: no such file or directory |
| 08:27.38 | budluva | drac, any idea whats goin on? |
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| 08:27.48 | budluva | i've lsmod and i see my ac97 module |
| 08:27.57 | budluva | added my user to audio group |
| 08:27.59 | drac | budluva: alsa-base and after that sun alsaconf |
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| 08:28.12 | drac | budluva: apt-get install alsa-base ; alsaconf |
| 08:28.19 | jetscreamer | http://www.google.com/search?q=how+can+I+create+round+pictures+with+gimp |
| 08:28.33 | s041128 | fh |
| 08:28.53 | drac | s/sun/run/ |
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| 08:29.10 | s041128 | fuck |
| 08:29.38 | s041128 | Who are you??? |
| 08:29.53 | drac | s041128 ? |
| 08:30.11 | jetscreamer | who who... who who |
| 08:30.11 | s041128 | Is is ERROR... |
| 08:30.23 | sussudio | in soviet russia, fuckard is you |
| 08:30.25 | Cthulfuego | !confuse s041128 |
| 08:30.25 | fusion | hm I have postfix installed, would my usernames be just the unix usernames if config is untouched? |
| 08:30.25 | dpkg | Yes, what was your pineapple yesterday, s041128? pants of the monarchy of mongolia with extra cream |
| 08:30.27 | budluva | drac, after running alsaconf i get an error, can you check it in #flood? |
| 08:30.38 | drac | budluva: ok |
| 08:31.00 | s041128 | ha-ha |
| 08:31.09 | jetscreamer | use modconf and load a shitload of snd-* |
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| 08:32.09 | drac | budluva: that doesn't look right. beats me. you have to ask someone else. |
| 08:32.11 | jetscreamer | modprobe snd-\* |
| 08:32.21 | drac | budluva: never had anything like that before. :/ |
| 08:32.26 | sussudio | !modprobe budluva |
| 08:32.27 | dpkg | Warning!: module budluva will taint kernel (and pants) |
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| 08:32.34 | budluva | jetscreamer, did you see #flood? |
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| 08:32.40 | jetscreamer | no |
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| 08:33.31 | drac | budluva: check lsmod | grep snd as someone told in #flood. |
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| 08:33.53 | Abugger | Hi!!! |
| 08:34.15 | simonrvn | same idjit BTW |
| 08:34.32 | Abugger | What is fucking matter??? |
| 08:34.51 | pw | "pornography" <-- fucking matter. |
| 08:35.07 | Abugger | Wow! |
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| 08:35.25 | simonrvn | that bash.org-able ;) |
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| 08:36.03 | Abugger | Very crasy... |
| 08:36.10 | simonrvn | "crazy" |
| 08:36.23 | shdhnd_ | hey can someone tell me how to install a single .deb package wich is located ot my file system ? |
| 08:36.24 | simonrvn | if you're gonna troll, at least spell properly |
| 08:36.26 | Abugger | Ye |
| 08:36.26 | Cthulfuego | "yeah" |
| 08:36.39 | jm_ | shdhnd_: read the FAQ |
| 08:36.41 | Abugger | yeah |
| 08:37.00 | galois | Snowb[LAU]: dpkg -i file.deb |
| 08:38.00 | simonrvn | hahaha |
| 08:38.32 | pw | ia! |
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| 08:42.50 | Nyle | zootalo |
| 08:43.21 | Besta | Hello, anyone can tell me how to install Debian in a computer with a SATA HDD? |
| 08:44.13 | ApEtc | Cthulfuego: Lovecraft fan? |
| 08:44.17 | dondelelcaro | Besta: use the d-i netinst images, and install away |
| 08:44.17 | Nyle | !tell Besta about sata |
| 08:44.18 | sussudio | !tell Besta about d-i |
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| 08:44.41 | simonrvn | Cthulfuego: at least you're not a random troll, you're a constant one :P |
| 08:44.46 | Cthulfuego | ApEtc: Not particularly. Just Ancient. And evil. |
| 08:45.10 | Besta | dondelelcaro, where can i get the d-i netinst images? I am new on Debian and Linux |
| 08:45.11 | ApEtc | Cthulfuego: Does the very sight of you drive people mad? :) |
| 08:45.20 | dondelelcaro | Besta: see what dpkg told you |
| 08:45.22 | simonrvn | Cthulfuego: ancient certainly applies with some of the people we've seen come in here. |
| 08:45.26 | simonrvn | Cthulfuego: bwahaha |
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| 08:45.47 | Cthulfuego | ApEtc: Not immediately, what with TV these days. When I pull out the tentacles they generally go gaga within seconds though. |
| 08:46.08 | simonrvn | Cthulfuego: takes longer than it used to |
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| 08:47.46 | simonrvn | Cthulfuego: http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/elders/elder.html |
| 08:48.48 | will` | in a phone home script for a laptop where it sends an e-mail each time the system boots, is the only purpose of traceroute to get the current ip address of the laptop? |
| 08:49.01 | Cthulfuego | "Perl.Lexac is a worm that spreads to Web servers running php scripts" |
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| 08:49.13 | Cthulfuego | You know, they COULd have called it PHp.* |
| 08:49.27 | simonrvn | "Perl.Lexac converts all .php file to .pl files" |
| 08:49.28 | zu22 | sussudio: actually it is Dell removable drive for laptop, think it is Toshiba, i have no floppy drive |
| 08:50.28 | simonrvn | "therefore its security threat level is considered to be very low" |
| 08:50.55 | sussudio | zu22: so boot freedos from your harddisk. |
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| 08:51.44 | Cthulfuego | simonrvn: http://www.toyvault.com/cthulhu/plush_cthulhu.html |
| 08:52.02 | zu22 | sussudio: ok, any program that can probe the drive and tell me accurately the maker and model number? |
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| 08:52.46 | ApEtc | Cthulfuego: I have a small plush Cthulhu from Toyvault that I got at a local comic store. |
| 08:52.49 | sussudio | zu22: it will show up in dmesg. |
| 08:53.02 | ApEtc | Cthulfuego: My brother has a larger "Summer Fun Cthulhu" that includes a straw hat, shorts and Hawaiin shirt |
| 08:53.07 | qazix | what's with the Cthulhu lovin? o_O |
| 08:53.10 | Cthulfuego | he was most impressed when it arrived :-) |
| 08:53.10 | zu22 | sussudio: ok |
| 08:53.19 | qazix | :p |
| 08:53.22 | Cthulfuego | die, mortal |
| 08:53.26 | qazix | rol |
| 08:53.31 | fusion | can anyone help me with postfix? how do I find out what I login with to pop3? |
| 08:53.36 | sussudio | rol? |
| 08:53.47 | qazix | "really out loud" |
| 08:54.00 | qazix | looks less ghey than lol |
| 08:54.04 | zu22 | sussudio: if it was flashed a different maker's firmware is that what dmesg will report or will it tell me what it *really* is? |
| 08:54.07 | sussudio | !ghey |
| 08:54.07 | dpkg | hmm... ghey is the same as "gay", you homophobe |
| 08:54.20 | sussudio | zu22: only dmesg will tell. |
| 08:54.26 | zu22 | sussudio: hmm |
| 08:54.57 | zu22 | sussudio: ok, the damn drive itself only says it is Dell blah blah :( i hate laptops |
| 08:55.13 | sussudio | yeah, those Dell blahblah's suck. |
| 08:55.28 | zu22 | :D |
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| 08:56.32 | austra | im in /etc/aumixrc now, how do i edit it so mplayer has audio???? |
| 08:56.42 | simonrvn | !audio |
| 08:56.43 | dpkg | To configure sound in Debian *Woody*: first, use modconf to load your driver. Then add yourself to the audio group (adduser username audio) and logout and back in. If you use ISA PnP and 2.2.x, ask me about "isapnp sound". If you don't know what driver to use, start with "lspci -v" and "pnpdump". Install a mixer (e.g. aumix) and make sure the volume is not set to zero in software. If you have no modules, ask me about "idepci". |
| 08:56.50 | austra | !audio |
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| 08:57.01 | simonrvn | no need to do it twice FFS |
| 08:57.02 | husein | hi.... |
| 08:57.10 | zu22 | !fart austra |
| 08:57.28 | husein | does anybody knwos about oscar tecnology cluster?? |
| 08:57.35 | simonrvn | google does |
| 08:57.49 | Nyle | how about your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries |
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| 08:57.56 | husein | about problems with its instalation |
| 08:58.00 | fusion | can anyone help me with postfix? how do I find out what I login with to pop3? |
| 08:58.06 | Nyle | is there a !keyword for that one |
| 08:58.10 | simonrvn | #postfix |
| 08:58.19 | fusion | yes I am there |
| 08:58.25 | fusion | and nobody seems to reply.. |
| 08:58.27 | simonrvn | so ask there, and wait |
| 08:58.34 | fusion | I have been |
| 08:58.35 | Nyle | patience is virtue... |
| 08:58.46 | fusion | been 2 hours |
| 08:58.59 | Nyle | someone will come along some day |
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| 08:59.29 | simonrvn | later today. i bet most folks in there are either busy, asleep, or stoned (like here) |
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| 08:59.44 | Nyle | hey! |
| 08:59.46 | Nyle | i resent that! |
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| 08:59.54 | simonrvn | ;P |
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| 09:00.03 | iceman | I'd like to check the contents of a dir on a ftp-server, from a script. what would be a good or easy way to do this? |
| 09:00.22 | Nyle | i kinda miss the nick ya know |
| 09:00.53 | stoned | what is mode +e |
| 09:00.58 | simonrvn | iceman: send a SITE command to the ftpd |
| 09:01.10 | simonrvn | +e = identified |
| 09:01.13 | Nyle | ahh |
| 09:01.37 | husein | noone knows about oscar??? |
| 09:01.44 | iceman | thanks simon |
| 09:01.46 | simonrvn | google does |
| 09:01.58 | Nyle | I just finished watching Hero, crazy flick man, if you can get past the chinese people flying all over the fucking place |
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| 09:02.14 | Nyle | that isn't even humanly possible |
| 09:02.25 | Nyle | to defy gravity and walk on water and fight and stuff |
| 09:02.27 | fusion | that movie had like, no point |
| 09:02.38 | Nyle | If it did, I failed to get it |
| 09:02.52 | husein | simonrvn, if i am asking, it is cause googles did not it |
| 09:02.58 | puff | Nyle: You are aware that this this thing we call a "movie", right? |
| 09:03.02 | fusion | apparantly the leaf scene was real leaves |
| 09:03.07 | puff | And that this involves something we call "fiction", right? |
| 09:03.18 | simonrvn | husein: then change your search terms. your google-fu is lacking, grasshopper |
| 09:03.29 | Nyle | yes, and are you aware that in ancient chinese culture, elite warriors supposedly had supernatural powes and abilities |
| 09:03.39 | Nyle | I understand yes, but do I agree, no |
| 09:04.05 | Nyle | it was entertaining nonetheless |
| 09:04.07 | Nyle | -e |
| 09:04.39 | simonrvn | dude, people with enough training can do amazing stuff. it takes disciplne, something the west lacks in droves |
| 09:04.45 | husein | simonrvn: do you know about it??. I really did not find anything about whats going wrong. |
| 09:04.51 | Nyle | simonrvn, word |
| 09:04.53 | simonrvn | husein: no i don't |
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| 09:05.06 | puff | iceman: What kind of script? I recently did a survey of this topic, wget, ftpgrab and pavuk where the options I consider. wget is simple and effective, ftpgrab is simple and more ftp-oriented, pavuk is reputedly incredible, but large, complex, and while possibly well-documented in pure reference terms, not well documented in tutorial/example terms. |
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| 09:06.56 | Fikrann | Hello .. Anyone here has experience with ALi M5621 based external USB drive enclosure? |
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| 09:08.24 | iceman | puff: thanks for that info, it's just a simple shell script.. |
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