| 00:00.00 | thomas_adam | nite_fly: What are you *really* trying to do? |
| 00:00.10 | runixd | no |
| 00:00.11 | thomas_adam | One up from the devil, is 777. |
| 00:00.12 | nite_fly | i usually dont doo shit like that cause i know its not write its just i got a few things i gotta test |
| 00:00.13 | runixd | 7777 is the evil |
| 00:00.16 | nite_fly | apache php test server for moment |
| 00:00.21 | nite_fly | lol |
| 00:00.24 | thomas_adam | teh evil, please. :P |
| 00:00.28 | toresbe | Atholas: Yeah... |
| 00:00.45 | toresbe | Atholas: I favour fluxbox, but recommend GNOME to newbs |
| 00:01.22 | Atholas | toresbe: I used to use fluxbox a lot on FreeBSD, though a full DE seems much easier to use at times. |
| 00:01.25 | nite_fly | and obviously php aint working with apache as usual |
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| 00:01.37 | gilles | runixd: what do you mean ? |
| 00:01.45 | runixd | gilles, use find |
| 00:01.53 | toresbe | Atholas: Obviously, your computer isn't 180MHz ;) |
| 00:01.59 | gilles | runixd: i don't have this command |
| 00:02.06 | adhoc | i'm looking to do some video conferencing, anyone recommend a USB or FW camera and software for debian? |
| 00:02.26 | gilles | runixd: sorry i have it ... |
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| 00:02.45 | runixd | adhoc, if thats with a girl send us the video |
| 00:02.55 | Atholas | *grin* well with this box here, I can take like 10 pisses before GNOME or KDE is loaded up |
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| 00:03.00 | befrok | hello |
| 00:03.12 | runixd | adhoc, check kernel docs for supported webcams |
| 00:03.20 | doub | Atholas: the price of fanciness |
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| 00:03.29 | gilles | runixd: but "find kaiti" where kaiti is the name of the font i'm looking for doesn't help |
| 00:03.30 | runixd | hello befrok |
| 00:03.39 | Atholas | Indeed.. |
| 00:03.47 | runixd | gilles, find / | grep "kaiti" |
| 00:03.54 | Servo888 | make-kpkg buildpackage -rev | This seems to make clean everything - is there a way to not have it make clean? |
| 00:04.00 | toresbe | Atholas: If you measure your software speed in potential toilet visits.. :P |
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| 00:04.02 | Atholas | Though I wouldn't say that GNOME is fancy ;) |
| 00:04.13 | ryan` | gilles, usae locate or slocate instead if you can. |
| 00:04.14 | dnb | how can i install gnome to my debain ? |
| 00:04.20 | dnb | debian* |
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| 00:04.27 | runixd | ryan`, it doesn't find it for him |
| 00:04.29 | walnuck | i'm trying to use grep for ^/dev but its not working.. |
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| 00:04.34 | thomas_adam | dnb: apt-get install gnome-destop-environment |
| 00:04.37 | runixd | !install gnome |
| 00:04.37 | dpkg | [install gnome] in woody: apt-get install gnome-session gnome-control-center sawfish-gnome ; In sarge and sid: apt-get install gnome |
| 00:05.00 | nite_fly | is there a php man page ? |
| 00:05.05 | thomas_adam | walnuck: grep '^/\/dev' |
| 00:05.11 | befrok | anybody knows if there are news about the debian-desktop project? |
| 00:05.16 | thomas_adam | Hmm. |
| 00:05.23 | walnuck | thomas_adam: ah...dam me i feel so stupid, i knew that one ;-) |
| 00:05.33 | runixd | debian-desktop? |
| 00:05.51 | befrok | runixd, yup : http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/ |
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| 00:05.54 | doub | Atholas: clicky, maybe, then ? |
| 00:05.56 | gilles | ryan, runixd: i can't find this name, when fonts are installed, it seems that the real name changes from the name that can be chosen in a text editor or whatever |
| 00:06.14 | runixd | gilles, use dpkg -L |
| 00:06.25 | mad | hi ;o) ... someone ever try qingy under debian? |
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| 00:06.50 | mad | it works but all my log try fails :(.... |
| 00:07.12 | lavamind_ | hey, i'd like to know if there's a way taht every time a user logs on the PASSWD variable is set to the users password? |
| 00:07.23 | thomas_adam | lavamind_: No. |
| 00:07.33 | Atholas | doub: I guess. |
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| 00:07.42 | thomas_adam | lavamind_: Doing such a thing is idiotic. |
| 00:07.46 | runixd | lavamind, yes, in bashrc |
| 00:07.47 | lavamind_ | how can i mount a share using the users credentials than |
| 00:07.55 | runixd | actually no |
| 00:07.59 | paulswm | befrok: if so, it would be in the debian.deve.desktop mailing list which you can view/post as newsgroup at gmane |
| 00:08.00 | thomas_adam | runixd: No. |
| 00:08.05 | runixd | password is no written into stdin |
| 00:08.06 | paulswm | *devel |
| 00:08.07 | runixd | *not |
| 00:08.12 | CSWookie | lavamind_: Why do such a thing? |
| 00:08.13 | jetscreamer | !rw-vfat |
| 00:08.13 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 vfat rw,users,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0222,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
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| 00:08.15 | ajs` | does anyone know how to make the dhclient pause for a couple seconds when the system is booting up befor it attempts to get an ip address? |
| 00:08.15 | runixd | so you can't capture it |
| 00:08.15 | Bedad | are there any clever grub people in today? |
| 00:08.25 | thomas_adam | runixd: It would reqiure you to hack PAM and/or shadow to do it. Read: idiotic. |
| 00:08.27 | kingk | i am looking for help with apt-get. Up to the present I am guessing names of files I can install with apt-get install. Where is the list of packages I can install with apt-get install |
| 00:08.34 | jetscreamer | !dselect |
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| 00:08.35 | dpkg | [dselect] a wonderful UI for package management. or really more powerful than apt-get or the only thing that provides FULL data when making decisions on whether to install a package. most people should not hate dselect but some seem to have been told to. just read the help screens, or <Ozzie> is there a dselect howto? - Yes there is: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/dselect-beginner Also ask me about aptitude. |
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| 00:08.40 | thomas_adam | kingk: /msg dpkg search |
| 00:08.42 | lavamind_ | because if my user changes password i dont want to have to change his /etc/fstab manualy |
| 00:08.45 | mad | so nobody know qingy right? |
| 00:08.50 | ajs` | kingk use apt-cache search |
| 00:08.52 | thomas_adam | lavamind_: Eh? man passwd |
| 00:08.53 | runixd | thomas_adam, could just patch sshd if thats used to login, but yes, idiotic indeed |
| 00:09.01 | CSWookie | runixd: I know why they would do the password the way it IS. I wondered why he would want to do such a horrible thing of capturing it. |
| 00:09.08 | runixd | HIS /etc/fstab? |
| 00:09.13 | thomas_adam | runixd: No, just login(1) |
| 00:09.27 | thomas_adam | lavamind_: WTF is it you're trying to do? |
| 00:09.30 | kingk | how about the apt-get install 'name for xemacs' |
| 00:09.31 | runixd | sshd doesn't use login tho |
| 00:09.36 | lavamind_ | i mean his login script which mounts his shares |
| 00:09.40 | FieldySnuts | it can |
| 00:09.40 | jetscreamer | how about man apt-cache |
| 00:09.43 | lavamind_ | forget fstab |
| 00:09.45 | thomas_adam | !tell kingk about search |
| 00:09.51 | runixd | lavamind, thats just stupid |
| 00:09.52 | kingk | jetscreamer. thx |
| 00:09.55 | runixd | what shares? |
| 00:10.01 | lavamind_ | samba shares |
| 00:10.07 | thomas_adam | kingk: apt-cache search --names-only <foo> |
| 00:10.13 | runixd | ahh, well thats just too stupid anyway |
| 00:10.14 | viper2k | ok I`m really getting hopeless here.. I`ve been already bussy for 2 days with my VPN but it doesn`t work out.. Situation is .. I`m running 2.6.9 compiled the mppe patch in it I patched the ptppd executable.. but when I try to log in with my winxp system it says it has a modem problem .. is there some log I can see what went wrong on the server side ? |
| 00:10.35 | FieldySnuts | @fuck vpn |
| 00:10.37 | viper2k | cuz modem problem is impossible cuz I do have network access with the pc |
| 00:10.38 | lavamind_ | its stupid? wtf, so if my user changes password i have to go and change his scripts too?? |
| 00:10.45 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:10.53 | runixd | no, you can make him change his own password |
| 00:10.54 | kingk | thomas_adam. thx |
| 00:10.56 | ryan` | viper2k, syslog... |
| 00:10.57 | FieldySnuts | putting ANY passwords in cleartext in any script is STUPID |
| 00:11.02 | thomas_adam | kingk: lol, np |
| 00:11.09 | ryan` | /var/log/daemon |
| 00:11.15 | thomas_adam | FieldySnuts: man expect :P |
| 00:11.17 | ryan` | /var/log/debug |
| 00:11.17 | FieldySnuts | he's a moron folks, face it. let him be. |
| 00:11.36 | jetscreamer | let him be a moron? anathema! |
| 00:11.40 | lavamind_ | hrmm |
| 00:11.40 | ajs` | lets all make fun of the FNG |
| 00:11.44 | runixd | !moron |
| 00:11.46 | dpkg | moron is, like, someone that types long lines starting with "dpkg" |
| 00:11.47 | viper2k | ryan` thnx :) |
| 00:11.50 | Servo888 | make-kpkg buildpackage -rev Custom.1 kernel_image | are there other option besides -rev? |
| 00:11.55 | ryan` | viper2k: it's because it's using ppp that it says modem |
| 00:11.56 | CSWookie | lavamind_: It really seems to be a great way to get haxor'd. |
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| 00:12.17 | ryan` | viper2k, if you still have problems, enable debug in pppd and pptpd |
| 00:12.20 | viper2k | ryan` oh ok .. but does this look like a common problem or did I forget somethiung big ? |
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| 00:12.23 | kingk | I installed vlc using apt-get install, but I can't find it in the vlc menu. So then I added the panel but I couldn't find the vlc icon ini the system |
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| 00:12.27 | jetscreamer | man make-kpkg, try make-kpkg --targets |
| 00:12.34 | ryan` | viper2k, you're using poptop, right? |
| 00:12.41 | viper2k | ryan` I have debug on in pttpd.conf .. what to do with it |
| 00:12.46 | viper2k | ryan` yes poptop |
| 00:12.50 | jetscreamer | man kernel-img.conf also |
| 00:13.05 | befrok | actually i'm considering moving from fedora2 to debian-unstable, does unstable break often? if i understand correctly it's about the same as fedora isn't it? i mean unstable is the "testground" for stable like fedora is the "testground" for redhat? so can i expect debian-unstable to behave like fedora regarding to stability and breakages (never had any in fedora)? |
| 00:13.08 | ryan` | sometimes windoes just decides to be dumb and won't connect to poptop. |
| 00:13.16 | runixd | sometimes? |
| 00:13.17 | viper2k | ryan` syslog says PTY read or GRE write failed before it says connection failed |
| 00:13.28 | ryan` | reboot the windows box. |
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| 00:13.30 | jetscreamer | !tell befrok about d-i |
| 00:13.34 | CSWookie | befrok: I've never had any problems with sid. |
| 00:13.36 | FieldySnuts | dd it's disk. |
| 00:13.39 | paulswm | befrok: unstable is the test ground for test, and unstable == unstable |
| 00:13.48 | runixd | no its not |
| 00:13.52 | runixd | unstable is very stable |
| 00:13.53 | thomas_adam | paulswm: Err. Ni. |
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| 00:13.58 | jetscreamer | unstable != unstable |
| 00:14.18 | viper2k | ryan` hmm never thought about that :P .. lemme try that .. brb btw.. cuz I`m lack of remote access so I`m trying to xs the vpn server from within the local network .. could that bring problems ? |
| 00:14.19 | runixd | unstable is only bad if you don't have fast connection |
| 00:14.20 | lavamind_ | ok well if im that stupid and you guys are so smart, lets see how you would have a users samba shares mounted at login |
| 00:14.33 | ajs` | runixd how do you justify that? |
| 00:14.39 | jetscreamer | no, do it yourself. |
| 00:14.41 | runixd | jastify what? |
| 00:14.49 | ajs` | that unstable is only bad with slow connections |
| 00:14.49 | lavamind_ | put everything in fstab? huh?? |
| 00:15.01 | jetscreamer | ah. runixd you forgot to add the exception for clueless users. |
| 00:15.19 | runixd | ajs`, if you use streight unstable you get about 100 mb updates weekly with desktop system |
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| 00:15.22 | jetscreamer | lavamind, maybe man umask dmask & fmask |
| 00:15.28 | jetscreamer | man mount |
| 00:15.29 | paulswm | unstable == risk, testing == less risk, stable == low risk right? othwise what's the point of the names? |
| 00:15.32 | FieldySnuts | lavamind_: mounting samba shares is stupid right off the bat. |
| 00:15.39 | cafuego | runixd: Unstable is abd for 1) Anyone who can't fix problems, report bugs and use bugs.debian.org 2) people who want to do WORK with their machine 3) Servers. |
| 00:15.47 | FieldySnuts | abd? |
| 00:15.48 | dondelelcaro | paulswm: sort of. |
| 00:15.54 | lavamind_ | it may be, but until this fucking place drops windows im stuck |
| 00:15.56 | tony | unstable is nice on the desktop too |
| 00:16.00 | FieldySnuts | @troll lavamind |
| 00:16.01 | runixd | pau4o, read about the names, have nothing to do with system stability |
| 00:16.03 | kyncani | in /topic, i see SECURITY: CUPS (DSA 621-1). Is there any package around that can tell me what dsa 621-1 is ? |
| 00:16.18 | cafuego | kyncani: http://security.debian.org/ |
| 00:16.20 | dondelelcaro | kyncani: DSA 621-1 is a debian security advisory... |
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| 00:16.23 | paulswm | dondelelcaro: unstable has certainly been that way at times in the past, IIRC |
| 00:16.23 | runixd | its related to frequency of package updates and the level of package testing |
| 00:16.33 | tony | 'unstable' is such an unkind word for it |
| 00:16.35 | kyncani | cafuego,dondelelcaro: many thanks :) |
| 00:16.39 | tony | windows is 'unstable' |
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| 00:16.43 | dondelelcaro | kyncani: you should ideally be subscribed to debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org |
| 00:16.47 | Cray2 | is there a way to, like, apt-get update or something that downloads all the required security updates as advertised on debian.org? or did i miss some blatantly obvious instructions somewhere? |
| 00:16.49 | runixd | and as jetscreamer noted, unstable gets very unstable for stupid users |
| 00:16.51 | tony | debian unstable should be 'cutting edge' |
| 00:17.05 | cafuego | Cray2: Yes, provided you run debian stable. |
| 00:17.11 | befrok | yeah but i've read (some time ago, that's true) that sometimes when running unstable, after an update the system wouldn't work as well anymore... is it still true? coz i never experienced that with fedora? (last time i tried unstable i had other problems about accentuated caracters that i did not managed to solve so i went for fedora) |
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| 00:17.14 | ajs` | sdebian unstable is relatively cutting edge |
| 00:17.23 | befrok | jetscreamer, btw what does it have to do with the installer ? |
| 00:17.24 | ajs` | the only thing its really missing is xorg |
| 00:17.46 | tony | ajs` , am quite aware of what it is... just think it's a bit of a misnomer |
| 00:17.47 | kyncani | dondelelcaro: i'll look into it :) |
| 00:17.56 | jetscreamer | befrok, don't use the woody installer unless it's a server, you'll be much much happier with d-i |
| 00:18.12 | dondelelcaro | befrok: unstable is just changing all the time. It may be more broken, or less broken on any given day. If you aren't comfortable with dealing with it, you should probably stick with testing. |
| 00:18.16 | runixd | what is it you want from xorg ajs` , that you don't get with XFree |
| 00:18.19 | Cray2 | cafeugo: excellent, that i do. run stable. |
| 00:18.29 | valdyn_ | befrok: debian unstable gets updated packages every day. Is that the same w/ fedoraX ? |
| 00:18.31 | befrok | jetscreamer, uh sure but what about the stability of the system itself? (not the installer) |
| 00:18.40 | jetscreamer | the world requires true transparency |
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| 00:18.59 | befrok | valdyn_, they are regular updates yes |
| 00:19.03 | jetscreamer | befrok, it's very stable, sid does NOT crash or bork, my KIDS run sid. |
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| 00:19.04 | tony | valdyn_ , are you really asking RedHate questions on #debian? |
| 00:19.10 | befrok | valdyn_, but none of them ever broke my system |
| 00:19.12 | ajs` | xorg seems to run alot better than xfree |
| 00:19.15 | cafuego | Yes! We all need a slow X server with features that are completely unuseable due to slowness! |
| 00:19.16 | paulswm | befrok: the difference is that testing is a couple weeks behind unstable, so if a pkg gets to testing you can have a higher degree of confidence that it won't break |
| 00:19.22 | tony | ajs` , it's the same codebase bro |
| 00:19.30 | ajs` | i know |
| 00:19.35 | runixd | ajs`, its only a license difference |
| 00:19.39 | jetscreamer | befrok, but like they said, sid isn't for a n00b, but sarge is getting ready to take woody's place as the stable |
| 00:19.42 | ajs` | but there has been quite a bit o modification since the fork |
| 00:19.44 | cafuego | tony: The transparency support is hopelessly shit. |
| 00:19.56 | Servo888 | Damn make-kpkg buildpackage -rev seems to just over make clean everything... Is it the -r? or -e? that forces a make clean? |
| 00:19.59 | Cray2 | i think i run sarge; is that considered unstable? |
| 00:20.02 | ajs` | and im not talking about the xcomp shit |
| 00:20.04 | valdyn_ | tony: Is that a rethorical question? |
| 00:20.08 | runixd | sarge should have been stable long ago, there are only licensing issues again |
| 00:20.09 | tony | cafuego , heh, imagine that... :) |
| 00:20.12 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: alot of the stuff has been backported to the X in Debian... |
| 00:20.13 | cafuego | Cray2: No, sarge is testing. Soon to be stable. Good choice. |
| 00:20.19 | tony | valdyn_ RedHatE is NOT open source |
| 00:20.28 | jetscreamer | Servo888, just do make-kpkg clean first eh |
| 00:20.36 | runixd | tony, it is |
| 00:20.39 | cafuego | RedhatE is also NOT debian |
| 00:20.43 | dondelelcaro | tony, valdyn_: what RH is or isn't is not a topic of discussion for #debian. |
| 00:20.43 | tony | valdyn_ , which raises the question, why should we support it for free? |
| 00:20.44 | jetscreamer | Servo888, and do you REALLY need buildpackage? |
| 00:20.44 | Cray2 | cafuego: yeah, it was you who suggested i install it, back when i was getting ready to install |
| 00:20.56 | jetscreamer | Servo888, do make-kpkg --targets first |
| 00:20.58 | cafuego | Cray2: Yay for me! ;-) |
| 00:20.59 | jetscreamer | then choose |
| 00:21.02 | Servo888 | jetscreamer, I dont want it to clean |
| 00:21.06 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 00:21.08 | CSWookie | lavamind: Do you have to use windows produts, ot just a windows terminal? |
| 00:21.12 | paulswm | Cray2: sarge is testing; I've been using the testing distros for years with hardly any problems. |
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| 00:21.16 | jetscreamer | i don't think it auto-cleans Servo888 |
| 00:21.18 | valdyn_ | tony: i dont give a fsck about redhat, i was merely contributing to befroks issues |
| 00:21.19 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 00:21.22 | mad | qingy ... is that mean somthing for u ? |
| 00:21.32 | tony | dondelelcaro , I'm gonna sic doogie and unclean on you... hheh |
| 00:21.42 | ajs` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:21.56 | jetscreamer | sid != leper outcast unclean! |
| 00:22.02 | MagusXI | hey finally got alsa to work, i was wandering though, do i have to recompile gnome with alsa support? or anything else? |
| 00:22.12 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: dhclient will keep trying to run on the interface, so it shouldn't matter. |
| 00:22.12 | plugwash | anyone got any idea when debian will get freepascal 1.9.6? |
| 00:22.26 | befrok | jetscreamer, well i'm not really a noob (running linux since '98) but actually i like when stuff works smoothly :) i'm not that a big fan of "the system broke after the update, need to fix it before sending urgent mail" :) |
| 00:22.26 | gl | hi, does someone have a hp pavilion zv5000 XF86Config-4 file ? |
| 00:22.30 | ajs` | dondelelcaro: no there is a 60 second timeout |
| 00:22.31 | CSWookie | lavamind: I've found that cygwin's X-server is quite serviceable, and so is putty. |
| 00:22.32 | ajs` | by default |
| 00:22.32 | Servo888 | jetscreamer, oh well - I don't think I need to build a package just for recompiling the damn kernel... |
| 00:22.35 | runixd | plugwash, you should ask maintainer |
| 00:22.44 | ajs` | but I want to minimize the boot time |
| 00:22.48 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: eh? no, there's a randomized timeout |
| 00:23.00 | ajs` | it said 60 sec timeout in the man |
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| 00:23.19 | jetscreamer | MagusXI, there's a 'multimedia systems selector' in preferences:///Advanced |
| 00:23.21 | ajs` | besides, ive had it timeout on me |
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| 00:23.26 | paulswm | befrok: well if you install unstable and something breaks, the folks here will tell you "what do you expect, it's unstable" |
| 00:23.35 | MagusXI | ya i see that all it lets me use is oss |
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| 00:23.48 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: unless you're running it with the -a flag, it won't timeout. |
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| 00:23.49 | befrok | hmm... |
| 00:23.50 | directhex | cygwin's xorg is a lot better than its xfree was. |
| 00:23.55 | jetscreamer | MagusXI, here i could choose alsa.. maybe you need to log out and log back in, not sure |
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| 00:24.01 | directhex | MagusXI, apps need to be told to use alsa, else they use oss compatability |
| 00:24.03 | ajs` | hmm, this is just running from the interfaces config file |
| 00:24.08 | runixd | MagusXI, just run gst-register-0.8 |
| 00:24.15 | MagusXI | ok |
| 00:24.24 | runixd | for gnome that is |
| 00:24.42 | dondelelcaro | s/a/e/ |
| 00:24.50 | runixd | f/f/s |
| 00:24.51 | valdyn_ | befrok, jetscreamer: in my experience, this is true, this forum doesnt support sid, and rightly so, but debian packages maintainers themselves have been very responsive w/ my last 2 sid issues ( ~1 hour response time on email ) |
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| 00:25.12 | douglas | what do I put in an fstab entry for a harddrive partition I want a user to be able to mount and not just root, and also have it automount on startup? |
| 00:25.22 | bbrazil | douglas: auto,user |
| 00:25.26 | runixd | user |
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| 00:25.27 | jetscreamer | i've never noticed anybody ever having a problem getting help with sid (except me of course) |
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| 00:25.31 | douglas | that's it? |
| 00:25.38 | runixd | auto,user |
| 00:25.39 | runixd | yes |
| 00:25.42 | MagusXI | ok i ran gst-register-0.8 it added alot of plugins, but i still cant choose alsa in multimedia selector |
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| 00:25.43 | douglas | so with that, any user can acess the partition? |
| 00:25.45 | runixd | mount is suid |
| 00:25.51 | jetscreamer | douglas, user or users, either/or |
| 00:25.51 | bbrazil | douglas: users if any user can umount, user if only the mounting user cna umount (and root) |
| 00:25.57 | jetscreamer | ^^^ |
| 00:26.06 | befrok | i guess testing do not have "recent" software (last time i checked lots of the stuff i needed did not even have a package in "testing") |
| 00:26.15 | jetscreamer | !rw-vfat |
| 00:26.15 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 vfat rw,users,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0222,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 00:26.16 | bbrazil | douglas: can mount or unmount at will - access is a seperate issue |
| 00:26.17 | Daffy-PKF | is there a user and a group wich could coresspond to nobody and nogroup? |
| 00:26.17 | plugwash | personally i tend to prefer to run a mix of sarge and sid |
| 00:26.18 | rdancer | how do i escape $1 so that sed wouldn't interpret it, but take verbatim?: sed "s/$1//" |
| 00:26.19 | cafuego | befrok: Such as what? |
| 00:26.23 | viper2k | hmm in pptpd.conf whats the exact difference between local end remote ip ?? it both asigns addresses to the connecting client right ? |
| 00:26.27 | cafuego | rdancer: \$1 |
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| 00:27.13 | cafuego | viper2k: No, local is the IP used on the server. One will suffice. Remote is a rage of Ips to assign to clients. |
| 00:27.15 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: if you're really concerned about boot times, there are a few parallelizing scripts... however, in most configurations, the network has to come up first anyway. |
| 00:27.20 | befrok | cafuego, do not remember about what i needed at that time, it was before i used fedora. but now for example i guess i'd need scim or any good multilingual/multicharset input method.. did not check in the testing pkg list yet however |
| 00:27.21 | douglas | thanks |
| 00:27.34 | MagusXI | gst-streamer didnt work |
| 00:27.42 | MagusXI | just added plugins |
| 00:27.45 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: if it's really a big deal, you might just make your default configuration a static one, and only use dhcpd if you're on a specific network. |
| 00:27.47 | rdancer | cafuego: eh, i mean, $1 is argv[1], i want to delete argv[1] from the input stream of sed |
| 00:27.50 | MagusXI | do i have to reboot? |
| 00:27.51 | runixd | didn't work for what |
| 00:27.51 | cafuego | befrok: There would invariably have been something to do what you want; possibly just with a different name. |
| 00:27.57 | paulswm | XFree occasionally locks up on me, when I log on from another box, I see XFree consuming 100% of the CPU, only way out is to hit the power button, any ideas what it might be or if it's a known bug, running sarge, gdm/metacity and xfree 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8?? |
| 00:27.59 | valdyn_ | !info scim sarge |
| 00:28.03 | ajs` | dondelelcaro: its not an option to use a static config |
| 00:28.04 | viper2k | cafuego but the server already has an IP ?? |
| 00:28.05 | MagusXI | for getting gnome to use alsa |
| 00:28.05 | dpkg | scim: (Smart Common Input Method platform), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-4 (sarge), Packaged size: 1194 kB, Installed size: 2952 kB |
| 00:28.09 | MagusXI | instead of oss |
| 00:28.09 | ryan` | local address : local address of ppp connectio |
| 00:28.13 | cafuego | rdancer: Ey? |
| 00:28.14 | ajs` | dondelelcaro: im making a linux image for a lab of computers |
| 00:28.18 | befrok | hmm |
| 00:28.19 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: it's always an option. It may not be a useful one, though.. |
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| 00:28.24 | viper2k | cafuego maybe sounds stupid but I just don`t have the right p[icture of it in my mind yet I guess |
| 00:28.26 | runixd | paulswm, what driver are u using |
| 00:28.29 | cafuego | viper2k: Not the pppX interface that will be used for the pptp link. |
| 00:28.32 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: why does dhclient take so long to get an ip, by the way? |
| 00:28.35 | valdyn_ | !info scim woody |
| 00:28.37 | ryan` | remote address : remote address of ppp connection (both from server point of view) |
| 00:28.38 | vlad|deb-newb | if there was a problem with gnome itself from the install would that affect the widgets for the applications>? |
| 00:28.42 | runixd | MagusXI, it will |
| 00:28.48 | befrok | ah, scim seems to be in testing according to debian's packages list |
| 00:28.49 | MagusXI | do i have to reboot |
| 00:28.53 | MagusXI | or log out |
| 00:28.55 | ajs` | dondelelcaro: my theory is that the dhclient starts before the interface is brought all the way up |
| 00:28.58 | MagusXI | before changes take effect? |
| 00:29.02 | viper2k | cafuego oohh .. for all clients the server will have a different ip |
| 00:29.05 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: what type of switches are you using? |
| 00:29.11 | runixd | just restart x at most |
| 00:29.14 | kyll | hey, im trying to do some bandwidth management with iproute2 and i have a 2048/512kbit adsl. this mean the total bandwidth is 2048 and 512 of it can be used for upstream? and not a total bandwidth of 2560 where 512 is reserved for upstream, right? |
| 00:29.22 | cafuego | viper2k: Say you have ppp0 now; your PPPoE connection to yuor ISP, yes? Once you dial into your vpn, you will ALSO have ppp1, which the first client is connected to. The next client will be ppp2 etc. |
| 00:29.24 | MagusXI | ok |
| 00:29.30 | MagusXI | is their a quick command to do that? |
| 00:29.34 | cafuego | viper2k: By specifying a local ip, you can set the IP for ppp1-X |
| 00:29.39 | ajs` | dondelelcaro: cisco gigE, not sure on the model |
| 00:29.44 | runixd | ctrl+alt+baclspace |
| 00:29.50 | ajs` | dondelelcaro not cheap ones, hehe |
| 00:29.51 | MagusXI | ok |
| 00:29.51 | befrok | MagusXI, what do you mean? which changes? |
| 00:29.54 | paulswm | runixd: ati |
| 00:29.54 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: you want to disable spanning tree then |
| 00:29.54 | runixd | or restart gdm |
| 00:30.00 | MagusXI | thank you il try that |
| 00:30.01 | runixd | paulswm, mobile ? |
| 00:30.02 | MagusXI | brb |
| 00:30.03 | viper2k | cafuego ok :) |
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| 00:30.05 | nite_fly | apt-get install php4 should have installed php4 for apache right ? |
| 00:30.05 | befrok | oops :) |
| 00:30.07 | ajs` | dondelelcaro ok, ill check it out |
| 00:30.20 | cafuego | nite_fly: libapache-mod-php4 |
| 00:30.25 | ryan` | localip 192.168.2.251 |
| 00:30.25 | ryan` | remoteip 192.168.2.200-209 |
| 00:30.25 | ryan` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.28 | befrok | i've misread "before" as "befrok" :P |
| 00:30.38 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: it takes about 15-30 seconds for those switches to enable a port because the STP algorithm has to run and make sure that you haven't set up a loop. |
| 00:30.45 | runixd | paulswm, comment out Load glx and Load dri in your config file |
| 00:30.48 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: if you know you haven't, you can just disable it. |
| 00:30.49 | paulswm | runixd: nahh, desktop, card is ATI XPERT 2000 AGP 32MB, didn't have this prob until a few weeks ago, must have been something in a dist-upgrade |
| 00:31.15 | ajs` | dondelelcaro: well, I dont think it is the switches since all other computers grab ip's instantly |
| 00:31.19 | nite_fly | cafuego, ? |
| 00:31.22 | rdancer | cafuego: i have a strings $foo, $bar, and i do echo "$foo" | sed "s/^$bar//". Both $foo & $bar are user-supplied on the commandline, and i just realized this won't work if i do something like mycommand "^regex$" |
| 00:31.22 | ajs` | but ill look into it anyways |
| 00:31.47 | runixd | paulswm, paulswm don't know if that applies, there is an unresolved issue in mobility cards which cause lockup |
| 00:31.58 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: I've had almost this exact same problem with cisco switches, and that was the root cause. |
| 00:31.59 | paulswm | runixd: tanks, I'll try that, problem is I can't duplicate the issue at will so it's kind of hard to test |
| 00:32.11 | dondelelcaro | ajs`: since it's a per port settings, it's quite possible that the other ports don't have it enabled. |
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| 00:32.32 | elnovato | a nice ftp client for gnome? |
| 00:32.36 | runixd | paulswm, open some text file in emacs, and scroll up down very fast wil scroll wheel |
| 00:32.47 | runixd | s/wil/with |
| 00:32.50 | nite_fly | can i scream now |
| 00:32.56 | paulswm | runixd: thank god for acpi power button event. However, if I do gdm stop, it doesn't gree the screen but it does if I do a restart |
| 00:33.04 | cafuego | nite_fly: If you think it will make php work, sure. |
| 00:33.08 | paulswm | runixd: yeah, like I'd put emacs on a computer |
| 00:33.10 | nite_fly | lol |
| 00:33.10 | paulswm | heh |
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| 00:33.30 | cafuego | nite_fly: Make sure thr module is loaded and the module directives are active in httpd.conf |
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| 00:33.39 | runixd | paulswm, hmm, I found that to be the sure way to lock up my X |
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| 00:33.54 | rdancer | i think i will simply echo "$foo" | cut -c "$(echo "$bar" | wc -c)-" |
| 00:33.59 | nite_fly | well i edited httpd but canty find module on system |
| 00:34.08 | befrok | ok so i guess i'd go with testing... can you still do a "minimal install" (from a single CD) with the new installer? and install the other stuff from the net? |
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| 00:34.23 | rdancer | befrok: yes |
| 00:34.24 | bbrazil | befrok: yip |
| 00:34.32 | runixd | befrok, you can only do a minimal install with debootstrap |
| 00:34.34 | befrok | good :) |
| 00:34.34 | nite_fly | libphp4.so |
| 00:34.43 | Daffy-PKF | how to mount a fat32 in rw via smbfs? |
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| 00:34.53 | befrok | runixd, what's that? |
| 00:35.13 | runixd | !tell befrok debootstrap |
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| 00:35.27 | cafuego | rdancer: Calling sed from a shell script? echo "echo \$1 | sed s/^\$2//" > myscript.sh; ./myscript.sh "wibble foo bar foo" "bar" |
| 00:35.41 | runixd | !tell befrok about debootstrap |
| 00:35.41 | cafuego | befrok: yes |
| 00:35.42 | bbrazil | smbmount '\\server\share' mountpoint. the fact that its fat32 is irrelavent |
| 00:35.57 | directhex | !smbfs foo |
| 00:35.57 | dpkg | smbfs is smbfs. it makes absolutely no difference what the remote file system is - fat16, fat32, ntfs, udf, iso9660, or even ext2 loaded via a dodgy windows driver. smbfs is all you see. |
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| 00:36.21 | paulswm | runixd: the strange thing is, I won't be doing very much when it happens, it's not like I'm hammering the driver |
| 00:36.33 | Daffy-PKF | ok thanks |
| 00:36.34 | paulswm | runixd: thanks for your advice |
| 00:36.43 | befrok | hmm |
| 00:36.44 | runixd | paulswm, I know what you mean, its annoying |
| 00:36.47 | directhex | as for mounting smbfs read-write |
| 00:37.03 | runixd | paulswm, np |
| 00:37.53 | directhex | pass fmask and dmask settings on the mount. these aren't masks, despite the name, so for world-writability, fmask=0666 does the job. dmask you need directories to be executable |
| 00:38.37 | vlad|deb-newb | is gtk the gnome evironment |
| 00:38.45 | directhex | no |
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| 00:38.56 | directhex | gtk is the GIMP tool kit |
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| 00:39.04 | runixd | gnome-libs is |
| 00:39.11 | directhex | a bunch of widgets for reawing to the screen. gnome uses gtk |
| 00:39.30 | vlad|deb-newb | I get a lot of gtx errors when I use any gui based program from the terminal |
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| 00:39.36 | vlad|deb-newb | gtk |
| 00:39.41 | elnovato | I'm being ignored? |
| 00:39.47 | runixd | yes |
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| 00:39.52 | elnovato | oh |
| 00:40.00 | directhex | errors != warnings |
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| 00:40.50 | directhex | they're related to missing icons, iirc |
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| 00:40.50 | vlad|deb-newb | then gtk is what the objects that gnome uses to access programs? |
| 00:40.50 | directhex | well, the really verbose ones are. gtk apps often throw warnings at the most minor of things |
| 00:40.50 | viper2k_ | my vpn connection shuts down according to syslog with this error mess: pptpd[890]: GRE: read(fd=4,buffer=804e6c0,len=8196) from PTY failed |
| 00:40.56 | directhex | vlad|deb-newb, gtk is a programming api that the gnome developers use |
| 00:40.57 | viper2k_ | what could it mean I should do ? |
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| 00:41.09 | FieldySnuts | that's an awfully big packet |
| 00:41.12 | directhex | vlad|deb-newb, it provides assorted things, mostly display based. window drawing etc |
| 00:41.32 | vlad|deb-newb | well I have no tool bar buttond in synaptic |
| 00:41.56 | viper2k_ | FieldySnuts you mean about my vpn conn ? |
| 00:42.11 | runixd | elnovato, what was the problem? |
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| 00:42.19 | vlad|deb-newb | from all appearences, synaptic appears to be ok, it just can't do anything |
| 00:42.30 | the_ghost_of_bob | vlad|deb-newb: read the bts if you're going to use sid, bugs.debian.org/synaptic |
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| 00:43.00 | vlad|deb-newb | I am just wondering if something went wrong in the install? |
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| 00:44.53 | valdyn_ | vlad|deb-newb: not your fault probably, see bug number 288445, sarge is hit, sid isnt, as far as i cant tell.. |
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| 00:45.29 | runixd | as far as i cant tell |
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| 00:45.45 | valdyn_ | s/cant/can/ ! |
| 00:45.49 | blueillusion | hey guys i bought an internal dvd writter and a drive enclosure for it, however when i plug it in, i get a message in dmesg saying its connected to sg0, but i cant mount it or anything, k3b wont see it either. how can i get this to work? |
| 00:46.12 | runixd | you can't mount a drive |
| 00:46.22 | blueillusion | the cd i mean |
| 00:46.26 | runixd | a dvd writer |
| 00:46.43 | blueillusion | i put a normal cd in it and i cant get it to mount nor will k3b detect it |
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| 00:46.58 | runixd | where is it connected to |
| 00:47.07 | blueillusion | all i see is that the cdrom is detected as an atapi device on my nforce 2 usb 2.0 controller |
| 00:47.08 | doub | blueillusion: what does it say when you try to mount it ? |
| 00:47.09 | runixd | physically |
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| 00:47.19 | blueillusion | its not a valid block device |
| 00:47.34 | blueillusion | usb 1-3: USB disconnect, address 3 |
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| 00:47.40 | blueillusion | usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using address 4 |
| 00:47.42 | runixd | hmm |
| 00:47.47 | blueillusion | scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices |
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| 00:47.59 | blueillusion | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.59 | viper2k | pptpd errors with : Couldn`t set tty to PPP discipline: invalis argument .. what does that mean ? |
| 00:48.05 | Daffy-PKF | can i get back to sarge if i upgraded to sid? |
| 00:48.12 | blueillusion | Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 5 |
| 00:48.18 | runixd | Daffy-PKF, no |
| 00:48.24 | blueillusion | thats what my dmesg says |
| 00:48.31 | Daffy-PKF | arf |
| 00:48.38 | plugwash | blueillusion just a guess try mounting /dev/scd0 |
| 00:48.47 | doub | blueillusion: i bet you lack a module |
| 00:48.52 | vlad|deb-newb | I love when they break things |
| 00:48.53 | blueillusion | doesnt exist, im using udev |
| 00:48.55 | toptnc | i have a problem with a Gigabyte GA-7DXE motherboard, i can't use front USB connector |
| 00:49.04 | nite_fly | is there a way to make my mouse work in console ? |
| 00:49.17 | toptnc | usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 |
| 00:49.17 | directhex | nite_fly, 'gpm' |
| 00:49.17 | toptnc | usb 2-2: device not accepting address 2, error -71 |
| 00:49.18 | ApEtc | nite_fly: gpm |
| 00:49.19 | plugwash | blueillusion im guessing that you are missing the scsi cd module |
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| 00:49.29 | plugwash | im not exactly sure what that is called though |
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| 00:49.31 | blueillusion | plugwash ok lemme check my kernel |
| 00:49.33 | Lego` | nite_fly: apt-get install gpm |
| 00:49.38 | blueillusion | i think i know what it is |
| 00:50.16 | blueillusion | scsi cdrom support? |
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| 00:50.24 | runixd | you need that |
| 00:50.33 | plugwash | blueillusion yeah try enabling that |
| 00:50.42 | rdancer | cafuego: ./myscript.sh "wibble foo bar* foo" "bar*" |
| 00:50.43 | vlad|deb-newb | is there an option in apt-get to tell a specific location for a fill to be installed? |
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| 00:50.54 | blueillusion | alright, im compiling it right now |
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| 00:51.14 | plugwash | from the messages you pasted it looks like it got the scsi emulation loaded but didn't recognise it as a cd drive |
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| 00:51.26 | valdyn_ | plugwash, blueillusion: that would be "sr_mod" |
| 00:51.27 | zignig | vlad|deb-newb: nope , thats the point it know where it install the files so they work. |
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| 00:51.36 | mindphasr | Is it just me or are the via videocard drivers horribly slow? Anyone else have a unichrome card? |
| 00:51.48 | robgood | nope |
| 00:51.49 | rdancer | cafuego: or even ./myscript.sh foo '//;s/foo//;s//' |
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| 00:51.55 | zignig | robgood: yes |
| 00:51.57 | blueillusion | ok im going to reboot and try it |
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| 00:52.01 | blueillusion | brb |
| 00:52.03 | nite_fly | the mouse is all over the screen |
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| 00:52.09 | directhex | mindphasr, yes, they are |
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| 00:52.26 | runixd | nite |
| 00:52.33 | vlad|deb-newb | the fix for my synaptic problem is to install glade-2 but I wonder if that conflicts with other packeges |
| 00:52.33 | rdancer | cafuego: the string in $2 will get interpreted as a sed script. XSS. |
| 00:52.35 | runixd | nite_fly, you are probably using wrong protocol |
| 00:52.47 | directhex | mindphasr, unichrome is based on a cut down version of the budget version of a card that wasn't released 2 years ago for being too underpowered to compete |
| 00:52.50 | mindphasr | directhex, So its not just me. Would the drivers be the reason why i get lag when switchin between apps? Such as firefox and something else? |
| 00:52.58 | runixd | nite_fly, install and run mdetect |
| 00:52.58 | vlad|deb-newb | I am adopting the look before you leap aproach |
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| 00:53.14 | directhex | vlad|deb-newb, how did you install synaptic? |
| 00:53.28 | vlad|deb-newb | came with the install |
| 00:53.30 | valdyn_ | vlad|deb-newb: apt-get install it, apt-get will notify you on what it wants to install or remove.. |
| 00:53.32 | directhex | vlad|deb-newb, if a package conflicts with another, you'll be told |
| 00:53.42 | directhex | vlad|deb-newb, no, synaptic isn't in debian_base. |
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| 00:53.51 | vlad|deb-newb | then I upgrade the system to get the nvidia driver to work |
| 00:53.53 | nite_fly | runixd, thanks |
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| 00:54.27 | runixd | $5.99 |
| 00:54.45 | mindphasr | seems the i810 card in my other machine is faster than this ones via unichrome card |
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| 00:54.47 | nite_fly | how does mdetect help me ? |
| 00:54.55 | paulswm | ah well, off to watch "Lost", thx to all for your help |
| 00:54.56 | nite_fly | it just says what i have it configured to |
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| 00:55.39 | daft | runixd: better ask euros |
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| 00:55.46 | runixd | no, it detects your mouse |
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| 00:56.04 | runixd | you'r right daft :) |
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