| 00:00.02 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: ok |
| 00:00.07 | asg | abrotman: ;) |
| 00:00.10 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, hey! :-) |
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| 00:00.24 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: flyspray? |
| 00:00.28 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: that was a jab at abrotman, not you (appearences to the contrary) |
| 00:00.42 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, lol. |
| 00:00.47 | abrotman | !info flyspray |
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| 00:00.50 | dpkg | flyspray: (Lightweight Bug Tracking System (BTS) in PHP), section web, is optional. Version: 0.9.6a-1 (sid), Packaged size: 313 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB |
| 00:01.03 | noray | MobyTurbo, sorry I though that knoppix is in debian base was the same |
| 00:01.14 | FieldySnuts | no, as the topic says |
| 00:01.15 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 00:01.15 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
| 00:01.21 | MobyTurbo | !based on debian |
| 00:01.21 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. |
| 00:01.26 | abrotman | !crap |
| 00:01.26 | dpkg | it has been said that crap is if its not crap, its hilarious |
| 00:01.29 | asg | abrotman: didn't know about that one |
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| 00:01.42 | FieldySnuts | @larg knopper |
| 00:01.43 | abrotman | asg: apt-cache search bug track post :) |
| 00:01.45 | FieldySnuts | t. |
| 00:01.49 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: so close |
| 00:02.01 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, http://www.mantisbt.org/roadmap.php |
| 00:02.08 | asg | abrotman: must have just been added, I've been evaluating bug trackers for internal projects for some time now. |
| 00:02.09 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, they will have pgsql support for it...later on |
| 00:02.15 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: ah, thought so |
| 00:02.16 | noray | MobyTurbo, sorry my english is not very good |
| 00:02.25 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, cool, you can help me select a nice one :-) |
| 00:02.38 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: flyspray? |
| 00:02.43 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: well, I haven't decided on one that suits my needs so I'll probably write my own. |
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| 00:02.54 | MobyTurbo | noray: if you can't read "/j #knoppix" then perhaps you shouldn't be using IRC |
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| 00:03.03 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: after I evaluate flyspray which abrotman just clued me into |
| 00:03.12 | kfogel_ | I'm installing Debian testing (sarge) on a Compaq Presario 900 laptop. It can boot from the CD-ROM okay; I get through the language & keyboard selection, but then it fails to mount the CD-ROM. I flipped over to console F4, and see the failure messages: "CDROM-mount failed (error=1): device=/dev/cdroms/*". On F2, I did ls /dev/cdroms/, and there's nothing in there. |
| 00:03.15 | abrotman | asg: i'm sure it sucks |
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| 00:03.19 | dave_ | abrotman: back |
| 00:03.21 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, what language you gonna write it in? I may help you |
| 00:03.27 | abrotman | is that good or bad? |
| 00:03.30 | kfogel_ | I suspect I need some boot parameters to get it to be able to mount the CD? |
| 00:03.35 | stew | i've been using mantis for years now, it works well |
| 00:03.46 | abrotman | dave_: how'd it go? |
| 00:03.56 | dave_ | didn't boot from the hdd |
| 00:04.01 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: dunno, yet. Something that supports cli utils as well as a web / email interface |
| 00:04.17 | abrotman | asg: that was a lucky guess with Flyspray .. since it works with mysql and pgsql |
| 00:04.21 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: perl probably (maybe php but I'm not sold yet) |
| 00:04.26 | dave_ | abrotman: i will be back in about 25 minutes, i gotta run down to the store |
| 00:04.27 | abrotman | dave_: that blows .. where is lilo putting itself? |
| 00:04.29 | asg | abrotman: yeah, I checked. |
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| 00:04.46 | dave_ | i think it is putting it on the hdd... it is just the computer isn't booting from it |
| 00:04.47 | abrotman | erm .ok |
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| 00:04.49 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 00:04.53 | Led_Zeppelin | k |
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| 00:04.54 | abrotman | dave_: we'll check when you return |
| 00:05.07 | gilles | i have a web server on my computer, how can i connect it to the internet ? |
| 00:05.18 | abrotman | ermmm ... |
| 00:05.23 | abrotman | this could be bad |
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| 00:05.56 | adjacent | gilles: bind it to a public address, or use nat on your router to direct traffic to the lan ip. |
| 00:05.56 | MobyTurbo | gilles: if you need to ask you shouldn't |
| 00:05.59 | caphuso | gilles: on the computer you are now sitting in front of? |
| 00:06.09 | gilles | caphuso: yes |
| 00:06.11 | abrotman | !MobyTurbo++ |
| 00:06.12 | noray | MobyTurbo, What's wrong with you, I don't speak english very well but I'm not stupid |
| 00:06.29 | caphuso | gilles: then i've got good news: the internet can already access your web server |
| 00:06.30 | abrotman | MobyTurbo: in his defense .. he used 'well' instead of 'good' |
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| 00:06.52 | gilles | caphuso: what do you mean ? |
| 00:06.59 | abrotman | noray: this channel is not for Knoppix .. please use #knoppix |
| 00:07.38 | bbhill | How long do I have to have been hanging out here before I can eagerly await rule infractions so I can pwn people by telling them wrong channel, etc? |
| 00:07.39 | adjacent | gilles: http://82.235.26.179/ |
| 00:07.41 | MobyTurbo | noray: no need for the attitude - this channel is not for every distribution, go to #knoppix or ##linux. Read the /topic |
| 00:08.07 | adjacent | gilles: that is the web site on your computer =) |
| 00:08.08 | abrotman | bbhill: say what? |
| 00:08.09 | caphuso | bbhill: i think the average time is around 12 seconds |
| 00:08.21 | abrotman | bbhill: you want to tell people off? |
| 00:08.27 | MobyTurbo | bbhill: that particular rule is right in the /topic |
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| 00:08.30 | hacim | kfogel_: perhaps we can function here :) |
| 00:08.38 | gilles | adjacent: so, can you access to something on my web ? |
| 00:08.44 | bbhill | Yeah, I want to yell at people for asking knoppix questions, gentoo questions, whatever |
| 00:09.03 | abrotman | bbhill: sure .. .. why not .. it can't hurt our reputation |
| 00:09.04 | adjacent | gilles: i can access what apache is hosting =) |
| 00:09.05 | hacim | kfogel_: I'm not sure how the latest RC2 installer does CDROM detection or even devices for that matter |
| 00:09.05 | bbhill | am I allowed to do it right off the bat? or is it like a #debian right of passage? |
| 00:09.12 | abrotman | bbhill: but do it correctly :) |
| 00:09.13 | peterS | bbhill: if you correctly yell at them and are polite when *they* haven't been rude, you can do it any time |
| 00:09.25 | bbhill | Ok cool |
| 00:09.41 | abrotman | like watch me yell at peterS in the wrong way |
| 00:09.54 | gilles | adjacent: cool, i didn't know that |
| 00:09.54 | abrotman | peterS: are you FUCKING stupid? .. UR so lame .. troll!!!! |
| 00:09.59 | abrotman | see .. that's bad :) |
| 00:10.00 | bbhill | Is correcting grammar and or spelling ok? |
| 00:10.06 | kfogel_ | hacim: ok, thanks |
| 00:10.18 | peterS | bbhill: a first offense about not reading the topic or whatever is no excuse for excessive rudeness, mind. repeat offenses start to raise the bar (: |
| 00:10.21 | hacim | kfogel_: spell my name backwards |
| 00:10.22 | gilles | adjacent: but my web is not very secure right now |
| 00:10.25 | kfogel_ | heh |
| 00:10.25 | Buddha| | Under K3B, is there a specific writing mode I should be using to make debian cd's bootable? i.e. DAO, TAO, or RAW? |
| 00:10.30 | caphuso | bbhill: basically no. but correcting technical errors is encouraged, so just concentrate on that |
| 00:10.37 | asg | Buddha|: perhaps #debian-kde knows |
| 00:10.39 | hacim | kfogel_: its like bizarro superman |
| 00:10.44 | bbhill | IE: If I'm arguing with someone and they forget a . |
| 00:10.49 | peterS | bbhill: correcting grammar and spelling is tacky. lots of non-native english speakers around, and they usually are speaking a great deal better English than you could speak their langauge |
| 00:10.54 | bbhill | I can be like.... LEARN PUNCUATION!!! n0000b |
| 00:11.08 | abrotman | peterS: i forgot to leave out an apostrophe in my little rant :) |
| 00:11.09 | asg | bbhill: no, #english is for that |
| 00:11.11 | gilles | adjacent: how can i bind it to a public address ? |
| 00:11.13 | peterS | abrotman: ha! |
| 00:11.18 | peterS | abrotman: ur dumb |
| 00:11.27 | adjacent | gilles: it is already...... |
| 00:11.33 | abrotman | peterS: that would be "u'r dumb" :) |
| 00:11.33 | kfogel_ | hacim: dmesg | grep -i hd gives two lines |
| 00:11.38 | peterS | hehe |
| 00:11.39 | bbhill | Alright. I'll jump on board with the #knoppix thing, that seems to be the #1 in here anyway. |
| 00:12.02 | kfogel_ | hacim: "ide0: BM-DMA at ..., BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio |
| 00:12.05 | kfogel_ | then the next line might be the cd: |
| 00:12.18 | peterS | bbhill: just remember, counter-trolling is just as bad as trolling. so keep it low-key and don't make a game of it |
| 00:12.18 | kfogel_ | similar, but it ends with "BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio" |
| 00:12.22 | abrotman | bbhill: just be careful .. |
| 00:12.26 | asg | bbhill: it's not like we are being assholes, it's just that Knoppix does things differently from Debian (as the runlevel question earlier showed.) |
| 00:12.29 | bbhill | Any time someone mentions Knoppix, it's required to say.. <name>: Debian is not Knoppix. Please go to #Knoppix |
| 00:12.32 | abrotman | bbhill: i even get in trouble sometimes :) |
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| 00:12.38 | gilles | adjacent: okay, but it's a dhcp address, so that it will change in a few time, what can i do then ? |
| 00:12.58 | asg | gilles: dyndns.org |
| 00:13.00 | adjacent | gilles: find some dynamic dns service. google dyndns |
| 00:13.06 | mibgames | anyone here know anything about linux networking, dns, cos I screwed my system up today and can't work out what I did |
| 00:13.08 | MobyTurbo | bbhill: well, it isn't Knoppix |
| 00:13.12 | hacim | kfogel_: hmm thats the ide contoller seeing hda-d |
| 00:13.15 | abrotman | mibgames: ask .. |
| 00:13.22 | bbhill | I know! |
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| 00:13.27 | bbhill | thats why they must be corrected |
| 00:13.35 | abrotman | bbhill: no .. that's not what he meant i think |
| 00:13.37 | mibgames | abrotman, I was here before, now I'm abck with xchat rather than gaim, so have /lastlog I think! |
| 00:13.46 | hacim | hardwire: but you should have more than that |
| 00:13.54 | peterS | bbhill: note, a grammar correction from someone who doesn't use apostrophes would be *really* ironic (: |
| 00:13.55 | hacim | err, kfogel_ you should have more hd lines than that |
| 00:13.58 | gilles | adjacent: how can i change this address for a real name ? |
| 00:14.04 | kfogel_ | hacim: /dev is organized mostly into subdirs. |
| 00:14.06 | abrotman | bbhill: it's not that knoppix is bad . but when they run knoppix and want us to help them use it .. that's bad . some of the people here use knoppix for rescue work |
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| 00:14.21 | bbhill | Yeah, thats what i've seen it used as... Like a save cd. |
| 00:14.26 | kfogel_ | There's /dev/cdroms/, /dev/ide/, etc. |
| 00:14.26 | bbhill | But i'm a noob |
| 00:14.31 | steve | where- where do i put codecs in debian? like real video codec? |
| 00:14.31 | abrotman | we noticed :) |
| 00:14.39 | hacim | kfogel_: ah, whats in /dev/ide, any hdc? |
| 00:14.43 | abrotman | steve: install real player? |
| 00:14.51 | PantherMachina | Steve: are you talking about mplayer binary codecs? |
| 00:14.52 | kfogel_ | hacim: nothing in /dev/ide, nothing at all, oddly enough. |
| 00:14.53 | steve | er like WMV |
| 00:14.56 | steve | yeah |
| 00:14.57 | abrotman | ok |
| 00:14.59 | steve | for mplayer |
| 00:14.59 | abrotman | that's different |
| 00:15.07 | PantherMachina | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.09 | abrotman | why isn't there a #mplayer? |
| 00:15.10 | hacim | is the RC2 installer using devfs? |
| 00:15.14 | bbrazil | steve: /msg dpkg millirat |
| 00:15.15 | PantherMachina | it's the default place mplayer expects them to be |
| 00:15.16 | hacim | kfogel_: that doesn't seem right |
| 00:15.20 | steve | nobody talks in #mplayer |
| 00:15.27 | abrotman | panthera: i thought that was /lib/win32 ? |
| 00:15.28 | PantherMachina | Steve: go there |
| 00:15.30 | kfogel_ | hacim: no. I suspect there's some boot: prompt param I should pass at boot tim? |
| 00:15.31 | kfogel_ | time? |
| 00:15.32 | PantherMachina | i'll answer tehre |
| 00:15.34 | asg | abrotman: /usr/lib/win32 |
| 00:15.38 | abrotman | i was close |
| 00:15.46 | abrotman | or maybe that's for totem |
| 00:15.51 | mibgames | anyway, I installed bind and dhcpd on my debian server today, everything has worked in terms of the network clients, all the other machines on the network use the server for dns lookups fine. On the server if I use dig or nslookup I get dns lookups without a problem, but if I use ping or any other program it says host not found. |
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| 00:16.05 | PantherMachina | abrotman: /lib/win32 I thought was for wine? |
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| 00:16.14 | MobyTurbo | I think /usr/lib/win32 too - but since I switched to VLC I've sworn off of windows codecs. |
| 00:16.16 | kfogel_ | hacim: note that this laptop did install fedora core3 okay |
| 00:16.16 | abrotman | PantherMachina: asg corrected me |
| 00:16.20 | hacim | kfogel_: try booting passing the kernel boot params: linux noauto momce |
| 00:16.21 | PantherMachina | and if it in /usr/lib and not local then it must be |
| 00:16.23 | asg | mibgames: did you configure /etc/resolv.conf correctly on the server? |
| 00:16.28 | kfogel_ | hacim: will do now |
| 00:16.36 | hacim | kfogel_: wait |
| 00:16.46 | hacim | kfogel_: if that doesn't work, you can also add noisapnp and nobiospnp |
| 00:16.53 | PantherMachina | MobyTurbo: I have one beef with VLC, it's nowhere near as cool as mplayer |
| 00:16.57 | kfogel_ | hacim: so full line is: |
| 00:17.00 | PantherMachina | it quite literally plays any and everything |
| 00:17.02 | adjacent | mibgames: maybe a /etc/init.d/inetd restart will help |
| 00:17.06 | kfogel_ | (one sec while I hit a key to prevent it frmo autobooting) |
| 00:17.15 | abrotman | or networking restart ? |
| 00:17.24 | abrotman | but i'm assuming he's rebooted several times |
| 00:17.31 | mibgames | asg, I believe so, it has localhost first, (127.0.0.1), then my two isp nameservers as backups, and a search directive |
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| 00:17.35 | bbhill | is there any alternative to xmms availible in the debian packages? |
| 00:17.43 | abrotman | bbhill: zinf |
| 00:17.44 | valdyn_ | steve: alot of those codecs are already packaged, /msg dpkg marillat |
| 00:18.01 | mibgames | adjacent, thats a new one on me, any suggestions why that would affect services running on the system from doing internal dns lookups? I can try it tho |
| 00:18.06 | hacim | kfogel_: are you booting the 2.4 kernel or the 2.6 kernel? (that could also change things) |
| 00:18.18 | gilles | my address is : "lab75-3-82-235-26-179", can i change this name ? |
| 00:18.20 | kfogel_ | hacim: linux noauto momce noisapnp nobiospnp (full line, when I get the prompt, right?) |
| 00:18.27 | caphuso | gilles: no |
| 00:18.29 | kfogel_ | hacim: whatever's on sarge by default, I guess. |
| 00:18.36 | hacim | kfogel_: well, I'd try just the noauto nomce first |
| 00:18.38 | adjacent | mibgames: it will restart internet services. you may have made changes that require inetd to restart before working properly |
| 00:18.39 | MobyTurbo | PantherMachina: VLC manages to play a heck of a lot of stuff without comprimising its license. |
| 00:18.39 | kfogel_ | hacim: crap, now the CD drive is flaking again. |
| 00:18.45 | kfogel_ | hacim: gotcha (re boot params) |
| 00:18.49 | mibgames | adjacent, tried the inetd restart, hasn't affected it |
| 00:18.50 | hacim | kfogel_: I think RC2 installer allows you to choose which one, but I could be wrong |
| 00:18.51 | asg | gilles: 1) got to dyndns.org. 2) get an account. 3) install client software provided for linux and available in debian (or write your own) 4) enjoy |
| 00:18.53 | kfogel_ | hacim: if I turn this on its side it may boot right |
| 00:18.55 | caphuso | MobyTurbo: so does mplayer |
| 00:18.57 | kfogel_ | hacim: you recommend 2.6? |
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| 00:19.06 | asg | s/got to/go to/ |
| 00:19.12 | hacim | kfogel_: 2.6 is good, but if it isn't working try 2.4 :) |
| 00:19.16 | MobyTurbo | caphuso: mplayer is gpl |
| 00:19.18 | PantherMachina | MobyTurbo: how does mplayer compromise it's license? |
| 00:19.26 | MobyTurbo | caphuso: but uses binary codecs |
| 00:19.26 | caphuso | MobyTurbo: yes, and? |
| 00:19.30 | caphuso | MobyTurbo: and? |
| 00:19.32 | kfogel_ | hacim: ok :-) |
| 00:19.39 | bbhill | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/login.jpeg |
| 00:19.41 | PantherMachina | MobyTurbo: those binary codecs are windows codecs that are closed source |
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| 00:19.44 | PantherMachina | they did not write them |
| 00:19.49 | kfogel_ | hacim: oy oy oy, now I have to let the box rest for N minutes until the CD wants to work again. |
| 00:19.51 | PantherMachina | they merely provide an interface for using them |
| 00:19.55 | caphuso | MobyTurbo: where exactly do you see a license violation? |
| 00:19.55 | abrotman | bbhill: this is not #ubuntu |
| 00:19.56 | hacim | kfogel_: yikes |
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| 00:19.58 | kfogel_ | hacim: thanks, I guess we're in pause mode now |
| 00:20.03 | MobyTurbo | caphuso: well, technically speaking its the codecs violating the license, but that's a fine point. ;) |
| 00:20.12 | PantherMachina | the GPL has no jurisdiction over code that you didn't write, nor binaries you provide with your application |
| 00:20.14 | caphuso | MobyTurbo: they do WHAT? |
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| 00:20.16 | bbhill | abrotman: nice! |
| 00:20.17 | gilles | caphuso: but, that the name i have each time in the konsoles, i should be able to change it, or have one that would redirect on it ? |
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| 00:20.24 | PantherMachina | especially since they don't provide it with the source |
| 00:20.25 | hacim | kfogel_: another thing to try is "pci=off" or some combination of those |
| 00:20.34 | yeti | how much RAM should a system have to work with X? are 48MB sufficient? |
| 00:20.43 | kfogel_ | hacim: okay, thanks! |
| 00:20.44 | asg | yeti: it is but will be slowish |
| 00:20.45 | hacim | kfogel_: these are based on stuff I've found online about the presario 900 and debian installing |
| 00:20.45 | abrotman | yeti: which WM/DE ? |
| 00:20.51 | caphuso | gilles: you can't change that name |
| 00:20.54 | asg | yeti: use a light Window Manager |
| 00:20.59 | mibgames | k, I tried the identd restart, I've checked over the resolv.conf and nothing loks wrong as far as I can see, any other ideas why my server wont do dns lookups? |
| 00:21.00 | kfogel_ | hacim: your google fu must exceed mine, I totally didn't find those |
| 00:21.01 | abrotman | yeti: probably use something like blackbox/openbox/fluxbox |
| 00:21.07 | yeti | abrotman: i think i'll use som 'box, or ion |
| 00:21.12 | abrotman | ok |
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| 00:21.18 | kfogel_ | hacim: or rather, I found them, but was unable to separate them from surrounding fluss |
| 00:21.21 | yeti | i know it won't run kde/gnome ;) |
| 00:21.26 | abrotman | yeti: i used to run X on a 486 with 36MB and blackbox .. worked fine |
| 00:21.31 | adjacent | gilles: if you register a domain name with a registrar then you can point it to your ip. |
| 00:21.36 | yeti | but kde/gnome won't run on a p1 133 either ;) |
| 00:21.41 | yeti | abrotman: okay |
| 00:21.43 | PantherMachina | gnome will |
| 00:21.46 | MobyTurbo | caphuso: at any rate, I get smoother dvd playback with vlc so I'll stick with it. |
| 00:21.50 | caphuso | MobyTurbo: what with cygwin? it uses windows .DLLs too... does it also compromise the GPL? |
| 00:21.52 | yeti | PantherMachina: which gnome? 2.6? |
| 00:22.07 | PantherMachina | probably not |
| 00:22.08 | abrotman | gnome1.4 will run ok .. but not great .. |
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| 00:22.16 | bbhill | Just put fluxbox on it or a smaller windowmanager |
| 00:22.20 | MobyTurbo | caphuso: guess not.... |
| 00:22.20 | abrotman | yeti: just go light .. you'll be fine |
| 00:22.22 | hacim | kfogel_: I am not sure if the install kernel is called "linux" so you might have to tailor that according to the instructions in the bootsplash help |
| 00:22.31 | caphuso | MobyTurbo: then why does mplayer? |
| 00:22.32 | gilles | adjacent: is it free to register for a domain name ? |
| 00:22.34 | yeti | abrotman: it's for my dad... i'm a ion user anyways ;) |
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| 00:22.41 | MobyTurbo | sigh |
| 00:22.42 | kfogel_ | hacim: nod |
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| 00:22.47 | hacim | kfogel_: but this should be so... nasty |
| 00:22.49 | abrotman | yeti: maybe try xfce4 .. dunno how heavy that is |
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| 00:23.06 | komseh-laptop | where is the kernel config located in a default install of debian? |
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| 00:23.06 | adjacent | gilles: this is getting old. if i wasnt stoned, id already be irritated. www.fuckinggoogleit.com |
| 00:23.09 | bbhill | abrotman: this is not #xfce4 |
| 00:23.15 | hacim | yeti: windowmaker is fast and light |
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| 00:23.30 | abrotman | bbhill: not funny |
| 00:23.46 | hacim | bbhill: this is not #abrotman |
| 00:23.50 | yeti | bbhill: i apologize. i asked him a question and he was friendly and answered. |
| 00:23.57 | abrotman | hacim: try me |
| 00:24.00 | hacim | :) |
| 00:24.01 | bbhill | yeti: this is not #ask questions. |
| 00:24.05 | abrotman | bbhill: stop |
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| 00:24.24 | MobyTurbo | yeti: SDNWOTN (sarcasm does not work on the net) |
| 00:24.43 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 00:24.53 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: for the kernel you're currently running anyways |
| 00:25.05 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: there will be others in there as well if you have more than one kernel installed |
| 00:25.06 | komseh-laptop | i took a guess and found it hehe, thx |
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| 00:25.20 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: good |
| 00:25.25 | gilles | adjacent: i'm just wondering, okay, sorry for irritating you, that wasn't my purpose |
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| 00:25.51 | komseh-laptop | is there a way to merge a 2.4.25 config w/ a 2.4.28 config? |
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| 00:26.03 | mibgames | gilles, no registering a domain isn;t free, but there are a lot of options, www.free-parking.co.uk works if your in uk, theres are tons of others, get any good itnernet user magazine and look one up |
| 00:26.09 | adjacent | gilles: its cool. but seriously, half the stuff you were asking is covered in any intro to linux, or how to set up a webserver howto |
| 00:26.14 | MobyTurbo | komseh-laptop: make oldconfig |
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| 00:26.20 | isga | Hi |
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| 00:26.32 | mike | hi i try to run amarok from unstable and i get following error when i launch from console "libFLAC.so.4: cannot open shared object file" |
| 00:26.34 | adjacent | a domain is like $10/year |
| 00:26.43 | abrotman | mike: libflac is messed right now |
| 00:26.59 | abrotman | or was |
| 00:27.05 | mike | abrotman ahh that makes sence |
| 00:27.06 | abrotman | cdimage is down again |
| 00:27.06 | Leimy | abrotman is a big poopyhead |
| 00:27.07 | abrotman | ? |
| 00:27.13 | abrotman | make me hurt you |
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| 00:27.15 | paulswm | abrotman: g'night, don't let the assho^H^H^H^H^H interesting questioners get to ya |
| 00:27.20 | abrotman | Leimy: you wanna start! |
| 00:27.25 | abrotman | paulswm: kill Leimy for me :) |
| 00:27.30 | Leimy | hehe |
| 00:27.35 | Leimy | oh come on |
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| 00:27.38 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:27.39 | eph | im doing the Sarge netinst... How can i get back to the base install GUI>? |
| 00:27.40 | Leimy | I've known abrotman for years :) |
| 00:27.44 | Leimy | he's a punk |
| 00:27.45 | Leimy | :) |
| 00:27.50 | abrotman | eph: base install gui? |
| 00:27.54 | asg | mibgames: when you 'dig www.google.com' what does the 'SERVER: ' line indicate? |
| 00:27.57 | abrotman | eph: run `base-config` ? |
| 00:27.59 | paulswm | heh |
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| 00:28.02 | eph | ya |
| 00:28.07 | abrotman | so do it? |
| 00:28.18 | eph | doesnt wor |
| 00:28.19 | eph | k |
| 00:28.25 | abrotman | why not? |
| 00:28.32 | eph | no idea |
| 00:28.34 | Leimy | Sun Jan 9 00:28:35 GMT 2005 |
| 00:28.36 | paulswm | abrotman: it's only a virtual shotgun, unfortunately |
| 00:28.40 | Leimy | oops! |
| 00:28.44 | Leimy | sorry |
| 00:28.45 | abrotman | paulswm: ok |
| 00:28.48 | MobyTurbo | eph: you are su'd to root when you run it? |
| 00:28.55 | mibgames | asg, SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) |
| 00:28.58 | abrotman | no more beer .. he's on a diet |
| 00:29.00 | Leimy | pint of blood/ |
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| 00:29.07 | abrotman | !beer Leimy |
| 00:29.10 | abrotman | ha! |
| 00:29.12 | eph | thats got it ta |
| 00:29.14 | eph | :) |
| 00:29.18 | Leimy | dpkg: eh? |
| 00:29.18 | dpkg | 'eh' is synonymous with the american derivative 'huh', but unlike 'huh', 'eh' can be used without making one sound like a freaking idiot. . Western Sahara |
| 00:29.19 | asg | mibgames: does /etc/nsswitch.conf have 'dns' listed after 'files' in the 'hosts: ' line? |
| 00:29.22 | Leimy | dpkg: from PA? :) |
| 00:29.22 | dpkg | Leimy: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 00:29.31 | Leimy | oh |
| 00:29.32 | paulswm | abrotman: I'll send him the program I'm working on, that'll for sure fsck up his box, it did mine :) |
| 00:29.33 | Leimy | heh |
| 00:29.34 | Leimy | bot |
| 00:29.34 | abrotman | Leimy: don't abuse him .. he's good to us |
| 00:29.41 | abrotman | paulswm: whoops |
| 00:29.44 | abrotman | dpkg: what are you |
| 00:29.44 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 00:29.54 | mibgames | asg, yup, hosts: files dns |
| 00:30.02 | eph | BBL THANKS |
| 00:30.05 | asg | mibgames: hmmm, odd |
| 00:30.07 | usuario | I'm using kdm and kde, I automatically boot into the greatest resoluation XFree86Conf has. I tried rearranging the order of the screen resolutions in the config file but that doesn't work. I how do I stop this? |
| 00:30.09 | mibgames | asg, but theres one I never thought of checking tho' |
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| 00:30.15 | abrotman | what .. no files dns nis ? |
| 00:30.17 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.21 | paulswm | abrotman: just a runaway pointer, letting me mess with pointers is like giving a small child a gun |
| 00:30.27 | asg | abrotman: only greycat uses nis |
| 00:30.31 | abrotman | paulswm: shoot foot! |
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| 00:30.32 | toresbe | How do I tell bash to start a program 8 times? |
| 00:30.39 | asg | mibgames: and 'ping www.google.com' gives 'host not found' ? |
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| 00:30.42 | abrotman | !tell usuario about nodm |
| 00:30.42 | mibgames | abrotman, never tried nis, and with only 3 or 4 computers in the house, seems a little overkill! |
| 00:30.42 | paulswm | heh, gnite all |
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| 00:30.48 | PantherMachina | toresbe: type it 8 times :D |
| 00:30.59 | asg | toresbe: for i in `seq 1 8` ; do <program> ; done |
| 00:31.00 | abrotman | mibgames: ignore me :) |
| 00:31.03 | Leimy | you guys use a paste bot? |
| 00:31.09 | abrotman | !paste |
| 00:31.09 | dpkg | i guess paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff |
| 00:31.10 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:31.12 | valdyn_ | usuario: try xrandr |
| 00:31.17 | PantherMachina | Lisppaste is my fave |
| 00:31.19 | toresbe | asg: thanks :) |
| 00:31.27 | toresbe | PantherMachina: heh - it's for a script, so I can't :\ |
| 00:31.28 | mibgames | asg, yeh it does, but dig www.google.com gives www.google.com. 350 IN CNAME www.google.akadns.net. |
| 00:31.35 | asg | toresbe: add '&' after <program> if you want them in parallel |
| 00:31.36 | Leimy | PantherMachina: Lisppaste is good |
| 00:31.41 | isga | anyone for private chat with a nvidia graphic card here? |
| 00:31.42 | mibgames | abrotman, thought I'd be polite and at least answer :) |
| 00:31.42 | valdyn_ | usuario: but uh, kde control setting should has a way to change resolutions also |
| 00:31.47 | asg | mibgames: so? |
| 00:31.50 | toresbe | asg: I know, thanks :) |
| 00:31.56 | PantherMachina | plus it's lisp so it *must* be good ;) |
| 00:32.01 | abrotman | good? |
| 00:32.15 | usuario | valdyn_: The resolution I change it to is always reset on reboot. |
| 00:32.17 | asg | mibgames: that's very odd |
| 00:32.32 | mibgames | asg, I thought dig would use the resolv.conf and nss and so on just like pam would, thats why I'm so confused Ic an't work out what I broke |
| 00:32.35 | valdyn_ | usuario: you change it to how? |
| 00:32.51 | abrotman | mibgames: do you have two NICs/ |
| 00:32.51 | abrotman | ? |
| 00:33.05 | ttttt | is there anyone who can help me about the ELF nasty interface, i have a quaestion about a problem i see during developping some tool for ELF handling... |
| 00:33.06 | usuario | valdyn_: xrandr command returns: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Couldn't open display (null) |
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| 00:33.18 | mibgames | asg, just tried ping the ipaddress that google.com resolves to by hand, i.e. ping 66.102.9.99 and that works fine, i get packets back |
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| 00:33.21 | Leimy | ttttt: what about ELF is troublying you? |
| 00:33.27 | abrotman | usuario: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 .. pick a resolution you want |
| 00:33.29 | usuario | valdyn_: I can go to configure desktop |
| 00:33.29 | jcarr | what should I install to encode mp3s from my cd collection?> |
| 00:33.33 | mibgames | abortman, nope, just hte one, sucky crappy budget computers! |
| 00:33.36 | abrotman | !tell jcarr about lame |
| 00:33.46 | ttttt | Leimy: can i query you, it`s not so shortly to describe |
| 00:33.46 | usuario | abrotman: I'll try that, thanks |
| 00:33.51 | ttttt | ? |
| 00:34.00 | Leimy | ttttt: I don't know if I can help |
| 00:34.10 | Leimy | but you can message me and i'll take a crack at it :) |
| 00:34.12 | valdyn_ | usuario: to bad, your xserver doesnt support the randr extension then - do what xrandr said and /msg dpkg x md5 if you already fscked with /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 00:34.13 | abrotman | ttttt: describe it succintly here .. |
| 00:34.21 | Leimy | or here |
| 00:34.22 | isga | jcarr: apt-cache search mp3 |
| 00:34.36 | valdyn_ | ops, s/xrandr/abrotman/ |
| 00:34.58 | abrotman | valdyn_: there's a first :) |
| 00:35.04 | komseh-laptop | should i select "pentium 4" as processor type if im using xeon's ? |
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| 00:35.15 | Leimy | komseh-laptop: is it a P4? |
| 00:35.16 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: yes ... but why are you compiling your own kernel? |
| 00:35.18 | komseh-laptop | yes |
| 00:35.21 | Leimy | then yeah :) |
| 00:35.32 | komseh-laptop | because 2.4.25 is old |
| 00:35.37 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: are you on sarge? |
| 00:35.40 | komseh-laptop | yes |
| 00:35.47 | sgeigerbot | I did a rather dumb thing: I was thinking (wrongly) that "dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/mnt/foo/myimage.img" would back up only the data that is on hda2. (Everyone knows that every bit from that device will get put into the file myimage.img.) I caught this error after the number of gigabytes that I expected to be transfered was already transferred... I did Ctrl-c to stop dd, and I was able to mount the image with the loopback! It looks |
| 00:35.47 | sgeigerbot | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.48 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: try this `apt-cache search kernel-image` |
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| 00:35.53 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: try this `apt-cache search kernel-image` |
| 00:36.05 | sgeigerbot | (I started using "e2fsck -f /mnt/foo/myimage.img") |
| 00:36.09 | dvs | komseh-laptop: you shouldn't upgrade a kernel unless you have a specific problem |
| 00:36.10 | ttttt | Leimy: abrotman: i wondering why there are on shared library, some symbol, 3 at most, with STT_SECTION type binding, but with shndx field point to not-present section, for example if section number are 54, index from 0-53, there is 3sym STT_SECTIN pointing to 54,55,56 ... what about those sym? |
| 00:36.15 | komseh-laptop | will i be able to configure options for grsecurity that i patched in? |
| 00:36.16 | asg | mibgames: the only thing I can think of is that your dns server is not configured to do recursive lookups for 127.0.0.1 (though dig should have failed on that) |
| 00:36.21 | asg | mibgames: did you ask #dns? |
| 00:36.25 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: i don't know about grsec |
| 00:36.29 | markl_ | i'm doing a cpu & memory upgrade; are there any good utilities to test before & after performance? |
| 00:36.34 | sgeigerbot | !+grsec |
| 00:36.38 | Leimy | ttttt: ok that's way over my head... I can see the contrails. |
| 00:36.45 | jcarr | does lame have a gui front end!? |
| 00:36.46 | sgeigerbot | !+grsecurity |
| 00:36.47 | abrotman | ttttt: i have no freaking clue .. sorry |
| 00:36.52 | abrotman | jcarr: grip can use it |
| 00:36.54 | mibgames | asg, theres a #dns? damn missed that one! |
| 00:36.57 | sgeigerbot | !grsecurity is http://www.grsecurity.net/features.php http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1551 |
| 00:36.57 | dpkg | okay, sgeigerbot |
| 00:37.00 | Leimy | ttttt: did you try #devtools? |
| 00:37.06 | ttttt | Leimy: tnx i try it |
| 00:37.08 | komseh-laptop | grsecurity is wonderful :) |
| 00:37.17 | Leimy | ttttt: np :) |
| 00:37.17 | asg | mibgames: I'm out of ideas otherwise so that might be a good next step |
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| 00:37.23 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: dunno if that is in the debian kernels or not |
| 00:37.25 | mibgames | asg, abrotman, DOH! will trying in DNS will update you if I figure out what it is |
| 00:37.25 | jcarr | alright.. let me get a grip |
| 00:37.40 | asg | mibgames: thanks, I'll be interested in what the solution is |
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| 00:37.52 | abrotman | mibgames: english? |
| 00:37.56 | abrotman | !lag |
| 00:37.56 | dpkg | methinks lag is the reason fnord has so many meanings |
| 00:38.13 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: probly not. definitely not for 2.4.28 |
| 00:38.26 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: but sarge has 2.6 kernels available |
| 00:38.31 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: try this `apt-cache search kernel-image` |
| 00:38.39 | mibgames | abrotman, sorry trying in #dns, will update you, blah blah blah (it was boring anyway!) |
| 00:38.41 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: you killed your files? |
| 00:38.46 | abrotman | mibgames: ok |
| 00:38.47 | sgeigerbot | komseh-laptop: Have you found that grsecurity limits the usage of your system (ie, is it "too much" security)? |
| 00:38.55 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: what's the question? |
| 00:39.03 | komseh-laptop | sgeigerbot: sometimes, but not for what im doing with this server. |
| 00:39.08 | usuario | abrotman: what is the con of a dm? |
| 00:39.49 | komseh-laptop | sgeigerbot: i have seen it boof stuff though. |
| 00:39.49 | sgeigerbot | komseh-laptop: what's that? |
| 00:39.49 | komseh-laptop | sgeigerbot: gameserver |
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| 00:39.49 | komseh-laptop | sgeigerbot: well general hosting server |
| 00:40.08 | ttttt | abrotman: same to be noone on channel whisper by leimy, can you address me some channel where i can post my problem? |
| 00:40.14 | yeti | could anyone give me a link for an example woody lilo.conf with initrd? dpkg told me some stuff about initrd when i installed the kernel, but i think i didn't get the options right |
| 00:40.23 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: Can you help me? |
| 00:40.24 | komseh-laptop | sgeigerbot: i just use the openbsd randomnization features, and the executable protections. |
| 00:40.50 | asg | yeti: /usr/share/doc/lilo/examples should have an example lilo.conf with one |
| 00:41.11 | yeti | asg: okay, i'll have a look at it |
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| 00:41.30 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: your question |
| 00:41.30 | abrotman | usuario: DM ? .. like XDM? .. i like them .. up to you .. just that it boots right to X .. and if you've messed X .. you're in trouble |
| 00:41.32 | abrotman | why am i lagging like hell? |
| 00:41.38 | abrotman | ttttt: i'm not sure .. there is #linux .. and #c(maybe) .. not sure where to send you .. it's way over my head |
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| 00:41.42 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: i'm not sure what happened |
| 00:41.58 | asg | yeti: if it doesn't have an initrd line, add 'initrd=/path/to/your/initrd.img' after the 'root=' line in the kernel stanza you are compiling. |
| 00:42.08 | adjacent | anyone know traffic shaping? using tc from iproute2 i want to create 3 classes under eth0 and give each class a set of classes for protocol piority. where do i ad=ssign the qdiscs? |
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| 00:42.20 | MobyTurbo | abrotman: I'm lagging a lot lately too, but I'm on dial-up so that's normal for me. |
| 00:42.21 | toad_ | my mplayer crashes half way through playing a DVD. is this a known issue? |
| 00:42.39 | ttttt | abrotman: ok tnx |
| 00:42.41 | toad_ | it does not crash consistently in a given location, so it _MAY_ be a heat issue |
| 00:42.55 | asg | adjacent: lartc.org is probably a good place to check for info |
| 00:43.01 | PantherMachina | heat issue? |
| 00:43.17 | PantherMachina | toad_: #mplayer is quite active |
| 00:43.20 | PantherMachina | and helpful no less |
| 00:43.32 | drac | is there 'rescue' option on netinst cd? |
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| 00:44.02 | adjacent | asg: yeh. i understand it pretty well, just a little unsure of whether i need to assign a qdisc to all priority classes, or the user classes, or both =/ |
| 00:44.16 | MobyTurbo | toad_: does it work with other dvd players? |
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| 00:44.16 | asg | adjacent: ah, okay |
| 00:44.16 | adjacent | lartc.org is a great resource |
| 00:44.21 | MobyTurbo | lagging away again |
| 00:45.07 | toad_ | MobyTurbo: it's Episode 2 (european). it worked fine the last several times. |
| 00:45.24 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: I can mount my image file, but it was truncated because the file ran out of room on the partition. So, if I try to use e2fsck -f /path/to/file.img on it, I get a bunch of these errors: "Error reading block 5505060 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while doing inode scan. Ignore error<y>?"...and I choose to ignore, then I get "Force rewrite<y>?" ...and then I get the same error messages |
| 00:45.24 | sgeigerbot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:45.41 | adjacent | im thinking i can do either, and that a qdisc for the user classes would just but the packets into another queue |
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| 00:46.14 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: After mounting my file image with the loopback, "df -h" shows that the file is a 40G filesystem...even though the file is actually only a 19G file... |
| 00:46.20 | MobyTurbo | toad_: does it work with a different Linux DVD player? |
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| 00:46.31 | kaplanfx | if there are several packages being held back by aptitude but only one of them is purposely being held, is there are way to print info on why the others are being held? |
| 00:46.33 | toad_ | MobyTurbo: I can't get any of them to work |
| 00:46.34 | drac | My friend messed up his MBR, and needs it reinstalled, can he use sarge netinstaller CD as rescue? |
| 00:46.49 | dvs | drac: no |
| 00:46.50 | valdyn_ | sgeigerbot: you can fsck files? |
| 00:46.53 | MobyTurbo | toad_: how about other DVDs? |
| 00:46.53 | toad_ | MobyTurbo: last time I tried, all the debian ones except mplayer (on sid) are broken for me |
| 00:46.58 | PantherMachina | kaplanfx: yes, you look at the console |
| 00:47.06 | toad_ | MobyTurbo: haven't tried, but it's not consistent, it's random |
| 00:47.06 | kaplanfx | PantherMachina: huh? |
| 00:47.10 | PantherMachina | it has one for showeing the actual commands and errors from apt-get |
| 00:47.10 | mibgames | sgeigerbot, I know it's a long shot, anychance you can try a resize tool to resize the aprtition? |
| 00:47.11 | adjacent | if that logic is correct then i need a sfq to share bandwidth between classes of customers too, even though it would cause more cpu cycles |
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| 00:47.38 | kaplanfx | PantherMachina: its not an error, packages are being held and I don't know why |
| 00:47.39 | drac | ok, what then, woody cd1, knoppix? |
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| 00:47.45 | Gathond | sgeigerbot: it would stand to reason that if the file is an image of a filesystem, then that filesystem's size would still be recognised as the size of the mounted filesystem, regardless of the size of the actual image |
| 00:47.47 | MobyTurbo | toad_: it's probably a hardware problem then. |
| 00:47.47 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: ...so that's why it needs to be changed in some way... But when I use resize2fs, I get told to use e2fsck first... |
| 00:47.48 | dvs | drac: sarge cd1 |
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| 00:48.00 | toad_ | MobyTurbo: could it be a graphics card problem? |
| 00:48.01 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: why not recreate the image? |
| 00:48.02 | poseur | SLAVA. |
| 00:48.05 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: i may consider going 2.6 and forgetting about grsec. which kernel package should i use for a dual xeon setup? i see they have quite a few pertaining to different cpu types. |
| 00:48.07 | MobyTurbo | toad_: I'd test it with some other DVDs to make sure |
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| 00:48.20 | Gathond | komseh-laptop: grsec is available for 2.6.10 |
| 00:48.25 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: this took hours to create...and the whole time certain web sites were offline. |
| 00:48.25 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: kernel-image-2.6-686-smp iirc |
| 00:48.26 | kaplanfx | drac: use knoppix, mount the drive where your system is installed and chroot to it, then reinstall his bootloader to the master boot record |
| 00:48.35 | toad_ | MobyTurbo: it has played all the way through many times previously on mplayer... |
| 00:48.39 | MobyTurbo | toad_: I wouldn't think so.... Do you have other graphics card problems? |
| 00:48.40 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: too much pr0n |
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| 00:48.41 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: And besides, I don't know how to recreate this. |
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| 00:49.14 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: I guess I could just create a 19 gig filesystem of nothing...then format it...and then copy the files into it. |
| 00:49.18 | davedoom | hi guys. installing sarge on an indy. The partition screen dosn't have XFS? what gives? |
| 00:49.18 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: ive never installed a kernel w/ apt. how do i do so? |
| 00:49.18 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: but it sounds broken |
| 00:49.20 | toad_ | MobyTurbo no but it's relatively new card |
| 00:49.25 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: ...but there has to be a way to fix this.. |
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| 00:49.31 | abrotman | davedoom: sarge or woody? |
| 00:49.33 | toad_ | when it worked in the past it was MOSTLY with the other card |
| 00:49.39 | davedoom | kernel is 2.4.27 |
| 00:49.43 | davedoom | thi8s is sarge. |
| 00:49.44 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686-smp or something like that |
| 00:49.51 | komseh-laptop | perfect |
| 00:49.54 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: it's a truncated filesystem .. |
| 00:49.56 | MobyTurbo | toad_: do you still have the old card? |
| 00:50.00 | toad_ | i.e. standard linux heat stress test :) |
| 00:50.07 | toad_ | MobyTurbo: it's in use by another pc :( |
| 00:50.25 | davedoom | I get ext3, ext2 reiser, jfs but no xfs. |
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| 00:50.39 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: ...so I just need to fix the inode table, right? |
| 00:50.42 | drac | kaplanfx: ok, will do that. |
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| 00:51.01 | toad_ | MobyTurbo: the only thing that made me think it might be the card is that i was using -vo xv |
| 00:51.02 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: i think |
| 00:51.07 | toad_ | which i hadn't been before |
| 00:51.20 | jmob | Is it possible to get a chrooted 32bit firefox to call something outside of the chroot, the host of the chroot being a 64bit system? |
| 00:51.29 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: I don't know filesystems well enough to fix this with a hex editor... |
| 00:51.38 | ahmad | hi people, i', running sarge and having a dsl connection speed problem. it should be 3Mb/s but it's only max 100K and usually below 30K.. any ideas?? please?? |
| 00:51.42 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: but it's broken .. do it agian? |
| 00:51.49 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: you know .. when you sleep :) |
| 00:51.55 | abrotman | ahmad: MTU? |
| 00:51.56 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: no! don't give up so quickly. |
| 00:52.04 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: I might learn something useful. |
| 00:52.08 | rdancer | ahmad: try bing |
| 00:52.08 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: it's basically a corrupted FS |
| 00:52.20 | ahmad | abrotman: 1492 |
| 00:52.37 | davedoom | if I use sid will it have xfs support? this has been in the kernel since 2.4.25 |
| 00:52.40 | sgeigerbot | !+testdisk |
| 00:52.40 | dpkg | testdisk is, like, an alternative to gpart. Try gpart first. http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html, or see also gpart, or or if that url doesn't work: http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html |
| 00:53.09 | sgeigerbot | !testdisk is also a filesystem recovery tool |
| 00:53.09 | dpkg | sgeigerbot: okay |
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| 00:53.19 | abrotman | davedoom: try sarge installer |
| 00:53.23 | abrotman | davedoom: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 00:53.29 | abrotman | davedoom: and use the linux26 option |
| 00:53.32 | davedoom | I AM using sarge installer |
| 00:53.34 | ahmad | rdancer: ping google around 30 ms but jumps to 70 or 100 every once in a while |
| 00:53.56 | davedoom | there is no 2.6 option. it is at the config partitions screen. |
| 00:53.59 | abrotman | davedoom: yes there is |
| 00:54.08 | davedoom | there is no oportuity to select a kernel. |
| 00:54.08 | abrotman | davedoom: when it boots .. type 'linux26' and hit enter |
| 00:54.13 | abrotman | i just told you how .. |
| 00:54.14 | abrotman | !ig |
| 00:54.14 | dpkg | [ig] for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 00:54.18 | abrotman | read the sarge one |
| 00:54.19 | davedoom | humm.... it is netboot. |
| 00:54.40 | abrotman | davedoom: try it |
| 00:54.40 | davedoom | this might be difficult. |
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| 00:54.47 | davedoom | ok. back soon. |
| 00:55.00 | ahmad | so, what do you think guys?? |
| 00:55.25 | dvs | ahmad: I have a 3Mbit connection and I get ~320kbps |
| 00:56.01 | ahmad | dvs: how did you configure it? |
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| 00:56.11 | dvs | ahmad: I use a router. |
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| 00:56.36 | rdancer | dpkg, MTU is also what tracepath (package iputils-tracepath) can find about |
| 00:56.37 | dpkg | rdancer: okay |
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| 00:56.46 | excessluggage | will debian ever release a stable distro with up to date stuff? |
| 00:56.57 | abrotman | excessluggage: are you trying to troll? |
| 00:56.59 | rdancer | excessluggage: no |
| 00:56.59 | elnovato | goodf morniong |
| 00:57.07 | dvs | excessluggage: not at this rate |
| 00:57.10 | gilles | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.11 | ahmad | dvs: are you connected thru dsl or not? |
| 00:57.15 | dvs | ahmad: yes |
| 00:57.15 | mibgames | excessluggage, seriously, don't you thinkt hats a stupid question, if it was all brand new, it wouldn;'t be stable! |
| 00:57.20 | excessluggage | abrotman, whats troll. I asked as a joke in #Fedora and they told me to ask in here |
| 00:57.22 | PantherMachina | excessluggage: the two are mutally exclusive |
| 00:57.31 | abrotman | excessluggage: then you're trolling |
| 00:57.32 | sgeigerbot | !+troll |
| 00:57.32 | dpkg | methinks troll is a race on some muds;a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/troll.html |
| 00:57.42 | ahmad | dvs: then how did you configure the dsl connection (username etc.) |
| 00:57.50 | dvs | ahmad: It's all in the router. |
| 00:57.52 | rdancer | excessluggage: what exactly did you ask in #Fedora? 8-) |
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| 00:58.10 | dvs | ahmad: I just had to configure the local network stuff. |
| 00:58.14 | abrotman | excessluggage: do you have any interest in debian? |
| 00:58.14 | ahmad | dvs: is it a wireless router or ethernet? |
| 00:58.28 | mibgames | abrotman, I think it's probably a lost cause! |
| 00:58.32 | abrotman | mibgames: dns? |
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| 00:58.38 | dvs | ahmad: both. My linux computer is wired. my roommate is wireless |
| 00:58.39 | excessluggage | It was more of a statement than a question I suppose rdancer |
| 00:58.43 | abrotman | mibgames: can you ping anything? |
| 00:58.46 | mibgames | abrotman, no excessluggage |
| 00:58.51 | excessluggage | abrotman, I used to use woody |
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| 00:59.00 | mibgames | abrotman, yeh, might try rebooting server see if that fixes it |
| 00:59.05 | abrotman | excessluggage: do you understand debian's definition of stable ? |
| 00:59.16 | adjacent | does anyone know a channel for questions about linux network administration? |
| 00:59.20 | ahmad | dvs: doe your roommate use linux as well? is he getting the same rate? |
| 00:59.21 | adjacent | i know its broad |
| 00:59.26 | excessluggage | abrotman, yes sorry I was being awkward. I suppose a troll |
| 00:59.27 | CosmoDad | pingouin: hi you remember gaving me hints on how to set up locale properly this morning? I did what you said (set-language-env and installing packages), yet some apps like xmms still come up with very tiny fonts |
| 00:59.28 | dvs | ahmad: he uses windows xp |
| 00:59.29 | abrotman | adjacent: can you narrow it down? |
| 00:59.50 | adjacent | abrotman: routing in particular |
| 00:59.51 | abrotman | CosmoDad: xmms always does that |
| 01:00.04 | abrotman | adjacent: using iptables? |
| 01:00.05 | CosmoDad | abrotman: no if I start it with LANG="C" xmms it's totally fine |
| 01:00.09 | adjacent | just linux routing, not using cisco, or one of those routerOSes |
| 01:00.20 | abrotman | adjacent: using iptables? |
| 01:00.20 | elnovato | jiam lunus topvalrds |
| 01:00.20 | adjacent | abrotman: iptables and iproute2 |
| 01:00.24 | CosmoDad | abrotman: using "de_DE@euro", it looks miserable |
| 01:00.28 | abrotman | adjacent: there is a #iptables |
| 01:00.34 | mibgames | abrotman, adjacent, got it working, and would you f*cking believe it, /etc/init/nscd stop made it work! |
| 01:00.36 | abrotman | CosmoDad: hmm .. ok .. not sure |
| 01:00.40 | CosmoDad | abrotman: and btw, dvdrip for instance looks crappy too |
| 01:00.47 | abrotman | mibgames: wtf is that? |
| 01:00.49 | adjacent | nice =) |
| 01:00.57 | ahmad | dvs: i'm connected to the dsl modem thru a cable only (cat5 eth) and barely reaches 100kb/s, any ideas?? |
| 01:01.00 | abrotman | i don't even remember |
| 01:01.14 | abrotman | CosmoDad: which DE? |
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| 01:01.25 | CosmoDad | abrotman: Germany |
| 01:01.26 | dvs | ahmad: 100kb/s is 100000 bps. That's faster than me. |
| 01:01.35 | CosmoDad | abrotman: or what do you mean? |
| 01:01.35 | abrotman | !de |
| 01:01.35 | dpkg | from memory, de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
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| 01:01.37 | abrotman | grr |
| 01:01.43 | abrotman | CosmoDad: Desktop Env |
| 01:01.49 | adjacent | 100 KB is 800 Kb actually |
| 01:01.59 | mibgames | abrotman, Name Service Cacheing Daemon, installed it a while back when I was thinking about ldap and whether to use it |
| 01:02.00 | sgeigerbot | !+testdisk |
| 01:02.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, testdisk is an alternative to gpart. Try gpart first. http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html, or see also gpart, or or if that url doesn't work: http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html, or a filesystem recovery tool |
| 01:02.08 | CosmoDad | abrotman: fluxbox? still not sure what you mean by that |
| 01:02.11 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: why you keep telling us htat? :) |
| 01:02.18 | PantherMachina | fluxbox is teh hawt |
| 01:02.18 | abrotman | CosmoDad: because xmms is a gtk1 app |
| 01:02.21 | sgeigerbot | !no testdisk is an alternative to gpart. Try gpart first. http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html, or see also gpart, or or if that url doesn't work: http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html Partition scanner and disk recovery tool TestDisk checks the partition and boot sectors of your disks. It is very useful in recovering lost partitions. |
| 01:02.21 | dpkg | okay, sgeigerbot |
| 01:02.28 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: alright so how do i configure all of my kernel options when i use apt to upgrade my kernel? |
| 01:02.28 | mibgames | abrotman, so it loks liek apt-get remove ncsd is gonna happen real fast! |
| 01:02.31 | mibgames | !ncsd |
| 01:02.35 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: such as? |
| 01:02.38 | CosmoDad | abrotman: true, what about dvdrip? |
| 01:02.40 | gilles | a question perhaps stupid: can you tell me if this 82.235.26.179 is a permanent address of my website ? |
| 01:02.40 | PantherMachina | it is the perfect balance between minimalist UI and power user abilities, with style |
| 01:02.43 | ahmad | dvs: you said you're getting 320kbps!!! |
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| 01:02.47 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: Just hang around and watch for a while. You will learn how things work. |
| 01:02.49 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: need iptables modules |
| 01:02.50 | dvs | ahmad: can you try another OS? |
| 01:02.53 | abrotman | CosmoDad: what package? |
| 01:02.56 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: modconf |
| 01:02.57 | CosmoDad | abrotman: and asuming it's a gtk1 prob, what do I need to do? |
| 01:03.02 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: hmm ok |
| 01:03.04 | dondelelcaro | gilles: we can't, unfortunatly, since we have no idea how that address was allocated. |
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| 01:03.07 | ahmad | i might be able to try winxp |
| 01:03.08 | abrotman | CosmoDad: what package is dvdrip |
| 01:03.16 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: i actually dont want them as modules. i want it compiled in :/ |
| 01:03.17 | ahmad | dvs:i might be able to try winxp |
| 01:03.21 | CosmoDad | abrotman: 0.51.4-sarge0.0 |
| 01:03.23 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: nope |
| 01:03.25 | swatikiss | my 3d accelleration is slow ~ i have nvidia drivers loaded and 2d works properly - im not sure why the 3d is going so slow ? |
| 01:03.28 | dvs | ahmad: I'd try that and see if you're getting the same thing. |
| 01:03.30 | dondelelcaro | gilles: only your ISP will no for sure. |
| 01:03.34 | CosmoDad | abrotman: should be most up-to-date sarge package |
| 01:03.35 | dondelelcaro | s/no/know/ |
| 01:03.40 | abrotman | CosmoDad: dvdrip isn't in debian .. i don't know what it's depends are |
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| 01:03.44 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: no way i can do that w/ apt? |
| 01:03.49 | ahmad | dvs: sounds like a good idea.. thanks |
| 01:03.51 | dondelelcaro | !info dvdrip sarge |
| 01:03.52 | mibgames | is dpkg a bot? |
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| 01:04.00 | peterS | !what are you? |
| 01:04.00 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 01:04.03 | dvs | ahmad: no prob (sorry for the confusion) |
| 01:04.03 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: modconf will load the modules .. and it works just fine .. i use it on an alpha at work(among others) |
| 01:04.03 | adjacent | ahmad: your dsl modems queue might be filling up from uploading, are you uploading much? |
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| 01:04.10 | CosmoDad | abrotman: I installed it via apt-get |
| 01:04.11 | komseh-laptop | ok |
| 01:04.12 | dondelelcaro | !+info dvdrip sarge |
| 01:04.15 | dpkg | Package 'dvdrip' does not exist. |
| 01:04.17 | abrotman | CosmoDad: not from sarge you didn't |
| 01:04.19 | CosmoDad | abrotman: but I've one non-official mirror |
| 01:04.20 | mibgames | !+info ncsd |
| 01:04.23 | dpkg | Package 'ncsd' does not exist. |
| 01:04.30 | abrotman | !find nscd |
| 01:04.33 | peterS | mibgames: you meant nscd, I assume. please use /msg, though |
| 01:04.35 | dpkg | nscd: (GNU C Library: Name Service Cache Daemon), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-20 (sid), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 216 kB |
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| 01:05.00 | mibgames | !+info nscd |
| 01:05.00 | abrotman | CosmoDad: anyways .. i would guess it's also a gtk1 app .. but i could be wrong .. |
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| 01:05.10 | dondelelcaro | mibgames: /msg the bot, please. |
| 01:05.11 | dpkg | nscd: (GNU C Library: Name Service Cache Daemon), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-20 (sid), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 216 kB |
| 01:05.15 | CosmoDad | abrotman: assuming both apps are, any ideas? |
| 01:05.19 | yeti | i have troubles making my pcmcia ethernet card work, it's a planet card, and i read it's 8139-based. i already installed kernel-pcmcia-modules and modprobed pcmcia core (i'm on woody) - but i don't have any idea what to do now |
| 01:05.21 | gilles | dondelelcaro: when i type "dhclient eth0", it gives me a new address, but this one 82.235.26.179 still works to get on my website, also, it works still after i have just rebooted |
| 01:05.24 | abrotman | !gtk1 font |
| 01:05.27 | mibgames | sorry, late night |
| 01:05.27 | abrotman | hmm |
| 01:05.33 | CosmoDad | abrotman: at least for xmms, apt-get should have installed all required packages |
| 01:05.50 | TheStar | For some reason, on kernel 2.4, ext3 fs, rsync "hangs" at certain files. |
| 01:05.52 | abrotman | CosmoDad: you mean it has a small font when you use the file dialog? |
| 01:05.53 | TheStar | ANy suggestions? |
| 01:05.54 | gilles | dondelelcaro: i thought it would change after those two events |
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| 01:06.12 | CosmoDad | abrotman: exactly! |
| 01:06.16 | vladster | still trying to get the printing to work and pouring over the cups and dmesg logs to find a clue as to what is not kosher |
| 01:06.19 | abrotman | !tell CosmoDad about gtk font size |
| 01:06.20 | TheStar | I'm suspecting a file is locked, is that possible? |
| 01:06.23 | abrotman | CosmoDad: try that .. see what happens |
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| 01:06.29 | dondelelcaro | gilles: it may just keep working... but that's really a question that only your ISP can answer, since it has little or nothing to do with your machine... (and there's nothing we can do to figure it out for you) |
| 01:06.48 | CosmoDad | abrotman: I'll try |
| 01:06.59 | ahmad | adjacent: sometimes i am |
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| 01:07.02 | usn | hi all |
| 01:07.09 | abrotman | !tell CosmoDad about gtk font change |
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| 01:07.20 | adjacent | ahmad: that has a tendancy to kill dsl speeds |
| 01:07.21 | TheStar | How do I check if a file is locked? |
| 01:07.25 | pingouin | CosmoDad, did you installed xfs also ? |
| 01:07.40 | peterS | TheStar: no easy way I know of, except to try to lock it from another program |
| 01:07.53 | ahmad | adjacent: but even with absolutly no uploads it never reaches a reasonable speed |
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| 01:08.05 | swatikiss | should xlibmesa* be installed on my system if i have nvidia ? |
| 01:08.10 | pingouin | CosmoDad, and all the package that set-language-env told you at the end of questions ? |
| 01:08.15 | gilles | dondelelcaro: i begin to understand, when typing dhclient eth0, it offered me a new address and then displayed bound to 82.235.26.179 -- renewal in 302400 seconds. |
| 01:08.21 | AdrianLP | Xfree86, mine starts, but if I hit just about any key (including some non-printing), my monitor goes black, clicks as if its switching profiles, then refreses the screen. I've tried several drivers (ati, fglrx, vga16, etc), they all do the same thing. Is anyone able to help? |
| 01:08.25 | TheStar | peterS: Hmm. |
| 01:08.38 | adjacent | ahmad: then you have a shitty isp |
| 01:08.40 | CosmoDad | pingouin: that's installed... all but those I could count as unnecessary (locale man-pages, for example) |
| 01:08.44 | bbhill | AdrianLP I had this problem and switching to vesa fixed it. |
| 01:08.48 | TheStar | Seems I can read the file just fine :( |
| 01:08.50 | bbhill | generic driver. |
| 01:08.50 | jbm | we sail tonight for singapore. we're all as mad as hatters here. |
| 01:09.02 | CosmoDad | pingouin: there's a package called xfs-xtt which I haven't installed, might that help? |
| 01:09.03 | adjacent | ahmad: probably a telephone company. |
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| 01:09.09 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: heh welp something did not go right with apt upgrading the kernel. the box wont come back up now |
| 01:09.14 | ahmad | adjacent: bell sympatico.. any history?? |
| 01:09.19 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: it wasn't remote was it? |
| 01:09.20 | AdrianLP | bbhill: Someone else mentioned that, it didn't seem to work for me. |
| 01:09.21 | dondelelcaro | gilles: the address it gave you was 82.235.26.179, and it will be the same for 302400 seconds. |
| 01:09.24 | adjacent | look for a wireless isp is my suggestion ;) |
| 01:09.25 | CosmoDad | pingouin: or what do you say to what abrotman just told me (gtk fonts screwed up), sounds like my prob... |
| 01:09.28 | dvs | ahmad: yuch! |
| 01:09.35 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: did oyu do the initrd thing? |
| 01:09.36 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: yes it was :) |
| 01:09.38 | bbhill | AdrianLP: Is your sync range set properly? |
| 01:09.45 | TheStar | peterS: Strange, if I do -vvvv, it seems to hang, but if I just use strace, it works a bit better. |
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| 01:09.48 | ahmad | i don't really have a choice |
| 01:09.50 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: yes i added the appropriate line to lilo and ran it |
| 01:09.51 | dvs | adjacent: you're right |
| 01:09.52 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: oh dear .. you shold have told methat .. i'm sorry .. i take extra care for remotes :) |
| 01:09.54 | CosmoDad | abrotman: do I need to follow both hints? |
| 01:09.58 | TheStar | Ok, what does SELECT() do?\ |
| 01:09.58 | AdrianLP | bbhill: Yes, I had my monitor book on hand, and it lists the vert and horiz. ranges. |
| 01:10.01 | abrotman | CosmoDad:no .. just two hints |
| 01:10.11 | bbhill | That's odd. |
| 01:10.17 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: its np, i will tell them to select the old kernel and ill do a manual upgrade |
| 01:10.18 | bbhill | I'm not sure then. |
| 01:10.23 | CosmoDad | abrotman: I mean copy that file and use this switch package? |
| 01:10.26 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: up to you .. |
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| 01:10.31 | pingouin | CosmoDad, also |
| 01:10.34 | abrotman | CosmoDad: try one .. then the other |
| 01:10.37 | adjacent | dvs. heh. i admin a wireless network, so im biased ;) |
| 01:10.40 | abrotman | CosmoDad: i don't know which will fix it |
| 01:10.50 | CosmoDad | abrotman: ok I'll try |
| 01:10.52 | TheStar | What does a timeout on select() mean? |
| 01:10.59 | abrotman | TheStar: man select |
| 01:11.03 | karrot-x | select() timed out |
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| 01:11.06 | abrotman | TheStar: or is it SQL? |
| 01:11.07 | TheStar | (That's what strace is telling me) |
| 01:11.08 | yeti | can anyone tell me whether the woody kernel (2.4.18) supports 8139based pcmcia-cards, and if yes, which module i need? |
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| 01:11.17 | TheStar | abrotman: No, not sql. |
| 01:11.21 | zenlunatic | what packet filter does linux 2.6 use? |
| 01:11.32 | dvs | zenlunatic: iptables |
| 01:11.45 | Zap-W | netfilter |
| 01:11.58 | abrotman | netfilter is iptables isn't it? |
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| 01:12.10 | swatikiss | yeti, i believe that is the 8139too module |
| 01:12.15 | Zap-W | no, it's netfilter in () |
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| 01:12.37 | swatikiss | yeti, pcmcia - nore sure ~ i have on my desktop - probably the same though / |
| 01:12.48 | abrotman | Zap-W: as in . netfilter.org ? |
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| 01:13.27 | TheStar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.02 | PantherMachina | what is? |
| 01:14.10 | yeti | swatikiss: doesn't work - modprobe 8139cp /8139too tells me: no such device |
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| 01:14.30 | yeti | is there any way to check whether pcmcia recognised any card at all? |
| 01:14.34 | abrotman | yeti: did you load the pcmcia-cs stuff? |
| 01:14.34 | swatikiss | yeti, do you have pcmcia support installed ? |
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| 01:14.46 | yeti | some sort ofi did modprobe pcmcia-core |
| 01:14.47 | TheStar | Seems my rsync hangs are a result of some bug on the 2.4.x kernel on Woody. |
| 01:15.01 | yeti | abrotman: pcmcia-cs? is this an extra module? |
| 01:15.05 | andreas_ | i got an amd 64, running ubuntu 64, and tries to install libpng3, but i dont know the type of architecture i should search for |
| 01:15.19 | abrotman | andreas_: #ubuntu |
| 01:15.24 | zenlunatic | TheStar, could be network settings |
| 01:15.32 | TheStar | zenlunatic: How so? |
| 01:15.40 | zenlunatic | TheStar, firewalls |
| 01:15.41 | TheStar | zenlunatic: This is local LAN, and everything else works fine. |
| 01:15.51 | TheStar | zenlunatic: Well, it wouldn't work *at all*, then. |
| 01:15.54 | TheStar | zenlunatic: Right? |
| 01:16.00 | CosmoDad | abrotman: neither tip worked |
| 01:16.01 | zenlunatic | TheStar, oh well my university never allowed rsync had to use webrsync |
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| 01:16.13 | zenlunatic | define at all |
| 01:16.19 | zenlunatic | like it craps out after so long? |
| 01:16.20 | abrotman | CosmoDad: then i'm not sure .. sorry . i tried |
| 01:16.20 | TheStar | zenlunatic: This is hanging at specific files, in the middle of a sync. |
| 01:16.31 | komseh-laptop | abrotman: just out of curiosity, what would you have done differently for a remote situation? |
| 01:16.35 | TheStar | zenlunatic: Seems that the select() call is timeing out. |
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| 01:16.47 | zenlunatic | Oh. I don't see how that would be a kernel thing. Could be the rsync source setttings serverside |
| 01:17.01 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: i would have made sure you made your lilo config right . and you installed module-init-tools .. |
| 01:17.06 | abrotman | komseh-laptop: or grub config |
| 01:17.13 | CosmoDad | abrotman: I appreciate it. thx |
| 01:17.20 | abrotman | CosmoDad: sorry to waste your time |
| 01:17.25 | yeti | abrotman: there are lots of _cs modules in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/pcmcia/, none called 8139_cs or something like that though |
| 01:17.32 | bookmark_ | why can't i see any nicknames in #linux? |
| 01:17.42 | abrotman | yeti: pcmcia-cs iirc |
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| 01:17.46 | zenlunatic | bookmark_, why ask here? |
| 01:17.48 | CosmoDad | abrotman: you didn't, instead gave me a hint what the prob is. I'll keep on googling |
| 01:17.48 | dondelelcaro | bookmark_: because everyone is in ##linux |
| 01:17.51 | abrotman | yeti: then you load 8139too or what ever it is |
| 01:18.02 | TheStar | zenlunatic: The 5'th result of google "rsync select timeout" suggests a kernel issue to me. |
| 01:18.03 | zenlunatic | dondelelcaro, true never understood that |
| 01:18.10 | bookmark_ | dondelelcaro: actually i'm in ##linux i think |
| 01:18.13 | zenlunatic | TheStar, that perhaps it is |
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| 01:18.22 | dondelelcaro | bookmark_: well, then type /who ##linux |
| 01:18.22 | zenlunatic | bookmark_, what client u using |
| 01:18.27 | bookmark_ | irssi |
| 01:18.41 | abrotman | did ##debian die? |
| 01:18.44 | bookmark_ | i mean it lists out the names but then when people talk, it's only blank spaces |
| 01:18.50 | zenlunatic | bookmark_, what dondelelcaro said |
| 01:19.04 | zenlunatic | bookmark_, i think its your theme |
| 01:19.10 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: dunno... there are 5 people there... there was another like #debian-friendly or something... |
| 01:19.12 | bookmark_ | i see them fine in here |
| 01:19.13 | zenlunatic | bookmark_, really should ask #irssi |
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| 01:19.25 | yeti | abrotman: there's pcmcia-core, which is loaded, and pcnet-cs, which fails to load - no pcmcia-cs (i'm using woody though, is that a problem?) |
| 01:19.37 | mibgames | thanks for the help abrotman, adjacent, now I'm rid of ncsd, everything working fine |
| 01:19.40 | abrotman | yeti: for a laptop ? .. i'd use sarge |
| 01:19.46 | TheStar | bookmark_: Just join ##linux rather than #linux. |
| 01:19.47 | abrotman | ok |
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| 01:19.48 | zenlunatic | bookmark_, does your terminal/console support color? |
| 01:19.50 | abrotman | find .. just leave :) |
| 01:20.03 | yeti | abrotman: i tried, but sarge install needs 22mb ram whereas the laptop has 16mb atm |
| 01:20.11 | bookmark_ | zenlunati, i'm running a monochrome theme. |
| 01:20.18 | zenlunatic | TheStar, he said he is ##linux |
| 01:20.19 | abrotman | yeti: hmmm .. it won't even start? |
| 01:20.19 | bookmark_ | are the nicknames in color in ##linux? |
| 01:20.25 | zenlunatic | bookmark_, try changing themes |
| 01:20.28 | CosmoDad | can I set specific locale variables (LANG, etc.) for certain applications only somehow? like a .Xdefaults for locale... ?# |
| 01:20.33 | bookmark_ | i like my theme |
| 01:20.34 | bookmark_ | ! |
| 01:20.35 | zenlunatic | bookmark_, i use ion_mod from irssi.org |
| 01:20.41 | abrotman | CosmoDad: you can write a wrapper |
| 01:20.42 | vladster | I just sent a job to the lpd deamon and it is still sleeping |
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| 01:20.45 | zenlunatic | bookmark_, Not ATM though |
| 01:20.54 | TheStar | zenlunatic: Ok. |
| 01:20.59 | bookmark_ | damn bozos |
| 01:21.01 | bookmark_ | eheh |
| 01:21.04 | yeti | abrotman: sure, the laptop starts, but the network card doesn't work, i have to ctrl+c the "autoconfiguring network devices" at boot, or it will hang |
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| 01:21.21 | CosmoDad | abrotman: a bash wrapper you mean? |
| 01:21.25 | yeti | abrotman: if you meant the sarge installation - it told me i shouldn't continue or it will break |
| 01:21.33 | abrotman | CosmoDad: you can alias it .. or write a system wide wrapper |
| 01:21.41 | abrotman | yeti: did you try anyways? |
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| 01:22.23 | CosmoDad | abrotman: yeah that should work. not as nice as a config-file, but working |
| 01:22.24 | yeti | abrotman: yes, i got some weird error 10 seconds later though and it ung |
| 01:22.29 | Klone | hi, i compiled kernel(2.6.8.11) with default .config file for 12th time and it gives me" vfs: cant open root device on hda1" and stops. anyone knows what might be the problem??? |
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| 01:23.07 | bookmark_ | Klone: human sacrafice |
| 01:23.12 | mirak | hi |
| 01:23.29 | abrotman | yeti: nice ... |
| 01:23.38 | abrotman | yeti: did you try bf24 for your install floppies? |
| 01:23.46 | mirak | is there an application that centralise most of the configuration tools in tui ? |
| 01:24.11 | dondelelcaro | mirak: $EDITOR |
| 01:24.28 | yeti | no, i used the sarge install floppies from a standard sarge cd. i used bf24 woody floppies though |
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| 01:24.56 | dondelelcaro | mirak: but beyond that, not really, unless your looking at a specific type of configuration. Debian will ask whatever configuration questions that are necessary to get packages working through debconf, but subsequent configuration is done using the tools that come with the package, or an $EDITOR. |
| 01:25.07 | abrotman | yeti: i wonder if the driver you need is compiled in |
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| 01:25.50 | encrypt | does anybody know how many time aproximately does the batteries of an wireless optical mouse lasts? |
| 01:25.58 | vladster | foomatic will not let me add a printer, is this a bug or is there a file I can manually edit |
| 01:26.02 | Klone | bookmark_: I dont give up! |
| 01:26.06 | dondelelcaro | encrypt: depends on the mouse, and how much you use it. |
| 01:26.08 | bookmark_ | brb |
| 01:26.10 | adjacent | encrypt, ive never changed mine |
| 01:26.17 | mirak | dondelelcaro: I mean something that would just bring a menu, with for exemple, the tools to edit the services run level, another to edit the x server etcetera |
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| 01:26.23 | encrypt | oh cool |
| 01:26.26 | yeti | abrotman: ifconfig -a shows me lo and irlan0 - i don't have an irlan device in there though |
| 01:26.30 | jbr | mirak: there are also various optional-extra packages like configure-debian, rcconf... |
| 01:26.32 | dondelelcaro | mirak: no, such a thing doesn't really exist... |
| 01:26.36 | abrotman | yeti: infrared |
| 01:26.40 | encrypt | for example, if i use 8 hours per day.. it will be the creative 3000 serie... |
| 01:27.07 | encrypt | any idea? |
| 01:27.07 | mirak | I know linuxconf, but that's limited |
| 01:27.07 | abrotman | yeti: no lights on your NIC? |
| 01:27.07 | yeti | abrotman: no |
| 01:27.15 | cat | hey i just got a new modear board and i dont know what video card i have what can i do? |
| 01:27.16 | dondelelcaro | mirak: moreover, it's not really worth the effort to write one... you really are much better off using an editor and actually configuring the packages yourself. |
| 01:27.19 | adjacent | encrypt, quit being cheap and buy an 8 pack of batteries instead of a 2 pack |
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| 01:27.29 | dvs | cat: lspci |
| 01:27.30 | cat | *mother board |
| 01:27.51 | encrypt | hm.. |
| 01:28.12 | cat | not working dvs |
| 01:28.12 | abrotman | yeti: no way to put more ram in it? |
| 01:28.16 | AdrianLP | bbhill: In fact, when I try to use VESA, I get a fatal I/O error. When I run start X all I see is a gray screen broken with vertical black lines. Very random looking pattern. |
| 01:28.18 | encrypt | another question.. if it says it is a wireless mouse.. does it means i can use together with my onboard notebook wireless for ethernet? |
| 01:28.29 | abrotman | encrypt: no |
| 01:28.30 | bob2 | encrypt: no |
| 01:28.31 | abrotman | not even close |
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| 01:28.35 | mirak | dondelelcaro: I don't understand what you mean |
| 01:28.36 | yeti | abrotman: well, maybe, i'll try that |
| 01:28.38 | encrypt | oh |
| 01:28.42 | TheStar | mirak: I reckon that "configuration programs" would work very nicely, if all programs were written for said configuration program. |
| 01:28.42 | adjacent | hah |
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| 01:29.05 | abrotman | encrypt: unlewss you maybe have bluetooth |
| 01:29.14 | abrotman | but that's not ethernet stuff |
| 01:29.17 | encrypt | i see.. |
| 01:29.36 | dvs | cat: you don't have pciutils installed? |
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| 01:29.48 | mirak | TheStar: well, what I was looking for is a programm that just is basically a structured menu that just run other config programs |
| 01:29.55 | encrypt | so i can expect at least 1 month with 2 AA alkaline for creative 3000? |
| 01:30.00 | yeti | abrotman: dpkg tells me there's a package called pcmcia-cs, and it says it's already installed - but then, i should be able to modprobe it, no? |
| 01:30.08 | cat | dvs: yes i do |
| 01:30.16 | abrotman | yeti: i ihtnk .. did you try browsing the install guide? |
| 01:30.25 | dvs | cat: then one of those lines should have your video card on it. |
| 01:30.29 | abrotman | !ig |
| 01:30.29 | dpkg | i heard ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 01:30.40 | _blue | hello, im using gaim and im having an error with the "unable to open socket" error message coming up every time i load GAIM, and it still works but im getting this annoying thing popup every time i open Gaim |
| 01:30.56 | FieldySnuts | may want to ask #gaim |
| 01:30.58 | TheStar | mirak: Once you understand the vim /etc/<config> file method, it's quite logical. |
| 01:31.03 | dave_ | abrotman: ok, i am back now.. heh, can i just download sarge and upgrade from what i have? |
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| 01:31.05 | mirak | dondelelcaro: well, there is webmin also, but that's one entity :) |
| 01:31.13 | _blue | i dont have this name with ident, so i cant go into Gaim |
| 01:31.17 | FieldySnuts | webmin is a peice of shit |
| 01:31.18 | cat | is a gta |
| 01:31.27 | nite_fly | FieldySnuts, i agree |
| 01:31.31 | cat | let me installed a new kernel |
| 01:31.38 | FieldySnuts | look. to config things in linux, you generally edit config files. if you can't accept this, go use something else |
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| 01:31.50 | abrotman | dave_: it's better to do a fresh install |
| 01:31.51 | dvs | cat: lspci doesn't depend on the kernel |
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| 01:32.02 | cat | dvs: my mother board is an adm, |
| 01:32.14 | cat | so im installing an amd kernel |
| 01:32.34 | dvs | cat: ok. It won't make a huge difference though |
| 01:32.43 | dave_ | hmm... can i just install itfrom a hdd... using the debian cd i have now? |
| 01:32.47 | dvs | catalyst: unless it's an amd64 |
| 01:32.51 | CosmoDad | abrotman, pingouin: in case you wanna know, I solved the gtk font prob: set the 100dpi fonts to be default in XF86Config and restarted X in order to make switch-gtk-theme changes take effect. The first approach solved dvdrip-prob, the second xmms |
| 01:32.54 | abrotman | dave_: you can .. |
| 01:33.03 | abrotman | CosmoDad: yay |
| 01:33.05 | dave_ | im fresh out of cd-r's |
| 01:33.12 | abrotman | dave_: if your network works ..and you have broadband |
| 01:33.16 | CosmoDad | abrotman, pingouin: I hope any uppcoming gtk-apps can comply with that :) |
| 01:33.22 | dave_ | yeah, it does, and i do |
| 01:33.32 | abrotman | !tell dave_ about woody->sare |
| 01:33.34 | abrotman | !tell dave_ about woody->sarge |
| 01:34.25 | dave_ | hmm... cool |
| 01:34.50 | dave_ | so that will upgrade woody to sarge then? |
| 01:35.05 | TheStar | dave_: Don't. |
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| 01:35.20 | dave_ | ? |
| 01:35.45 | abrotman | let me read it |
| 01:36.01 | abrotman | dave_: run the dist-upgrade a few times .. but yeah . shodl work |
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| 01:36.43 | abrotman | DarknessX: where's audobon? |
| 01:36.47 | abrotman | audubon |
| 01:36.50 | dave_ | hmm.. i'll try that |
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| 01:37.00 | bbhill | lake audubon reston virginia usa |
| 01:37.08 | abrotman | bbhill: wrong |
| 01:37.17 | bbhill | thats true though! |
| 01:37.19 | abrotman | bbhill: there is an audubon near me in PA |
| 01:37.21 | Duelist | If my dmesg is getting spammed with "input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0" does this mean my keyboard is dying? |
| 01:37.31 | PantherMachina | yes |
| 01:37.33 | bbhill | Yeah well theres a lake audubon near me in washington DC. |
| 01:37.33 | DarknessX | abrotman: over the river from Philly; south Jersey |
| 01:37.34 | abrotman | Duelist: it's a bomb |
| 01:37.38 | PantherMachina | make your time |
| 01:37.43 | abrotman | DarknessX: i geuss that's why it sounds familiar :) |
| 01:37.51 | DarknessX | abrotman: nearby? |
| 01:37.54 | Duelist | abrotman: Seriously |
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| 01:37.58 | abrotman | DarknessX: i work in KoP |
| 01:37.58 | FieldySnuts | move every "zig" |
| 01:38.01 | FieldySnuts | for great justice |
| 01:38.04 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:38.20 | FieldySnuts | WHAT YOU SAY!! |
| 01:38.25 | abrotman | make your time! |
| 01:38.29 | DarknessX | abrotman: ah. I live/go to school in Haddonfield (next door to Cherry Hill, which you've probably heard of) |
| 01:38.41 | abrotman | DarknessX: i had an interview there a long time ago |
| 01:38.43 | FieldySnuts | its you!! |
| 01:38.49 | abrotman | speaking of .. where's Wyzard |
| 01:38.55 | FieldySnuts | @lart Konami |
| 01:38.59 | abrotman | All your base! |
| 01:39.12 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: no .. they made great stuff |
| 01:39.16 | DarknessX | abrotman: Haddonfield's an awesome little town. |
| 01:39.16 | dave_ | abrotman: ok.. i changed the sources.. but when i goto do apt-get dist-upgrade it doesn't install anything |
| 01:39.23 | FieldySnuts | not listening |
| 01:39.27 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: including .. up up down down left right b a select start |
| 01:39.34 | FieldySnuts | yeah yeah contra, 30 lives |
| 01:39.39 | abrotman | dave_: did you apt-get update first? |
| 01:39.41 | FieldySnuts | even though it took 90 to complete the damn game |
| 01:39.45 | dave_ | yes |
| 01:39.47 | abrotman | DarknessX: never been there |
| 01:39.54 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: no way .. i watched a guy do it on 21 |
| 01:39.56 | abrotman | err 1 |
| 01:39.57 | dave_ | well... wait, i only have one source atm... lemme add a few |
| 01:40.02 | FieldySnuts | sheesh |
| 01:40.08 | abrotman | dave_: apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
| 01:40.10 | vladster | I did an apt-get dist upgrade and it still did not solve my printer problem |
| 01:40.11 | FieldySnuts | my cousin was like that, beating games like metroid in a few hours |
| 01:40.15 | FieldySnuts | crazy |
| 01:40.18 | abrotman | dave_: if you're unsure .. paste your sources in #flood |
| 01:40.23 | adjacent | FieldySnuts: i can beat it in 12 |
| 01:40.29 | FieldySnuts | he's done it in 10 |
| 01:40.31 | FieldySnuts | which is insanity |
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| 01:40.41 | dave_ | k |
| 01:40.43 | bookmark_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:40.46 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:40.47 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: i used to play SuperMetroid in college ... i could come home for my 3hr lunch . and beat it and go back to class |
| 01:40.50 | FieldySnuts | heh what was the oint of that |
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| 01:41.03 | TheStar | FieldySnuts: Even 12 is insanity. |
| 01:41.07 | FieldySnuts | i agree |
| 01:41.09 | adjacent | i only have an NES. i still play it all the time. duckhunt is the gretest |
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| 01:41.16 | abrotman | dave_: you gotta tell me before you do it :) |
| 01:41.27 | FieldySnuts | @spam TheStar |
| 01:41.32 | abrotman | adjacent: i used to think that .. till i got Starsky and Hutch for PS2 :) |
| 01:41.33 | FieldySnuts | er |
| 01:41.53 | adjacent | abrotman: i cant buy a ps2 for one game =) |
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| 01:42.01 | abrotman | adjacent: i did |
| 01:42.20 | adjacent | haha. nice |
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| 01:42.36 | pingouin | some have money...other dont ;) |
| 01:42.44 | abrotman | dave_: you need at least those two |
| 01:42.52 | FieldySnuts | this guy was here the other day ranting/crying about that |
| 01:42.58 | abrotman | dave_: actually trim off the contrib non-free from the one i gave you |
| 01:43.03 | adjacent | i can aford it, but i cant afford the time spent playing a game console that doesnt crash after a few hours |
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| 01:43.22 | abrotman | adjacent: mine doesn't |
| 01:43.33 | abrotman | adjacent: oh wait .. you want it to crhas |
| 01:43.35 | dnb | how can i use sed for change values in same file ? |
| 01:43.39 | abrotman | man sed ? |
| 01:43.43 | bbrazil | dnb: sed -i |
| 01:43.45 | abrotman | !sed |
| 01:43.45 | dpkg | Sed is a stream editor. A stream editor is used to perform basic text transformations on an input stream (a file or input from a pipeline). Sed is located at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/sed/ or a pain in the ass, or see http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/unix/sed.html and http://queen.rett.polimi.it/~paolob/seders/ for common usages and examples |
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| 01:43.48 | dnb | hm thanks |
| 01:43.51 | bbrazil | (gnu extension) |
| 01:43.55 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: start an editor war |
| 01:43.56 | ravenbird | ae sucks |
| 01:44.05 | adjacent | abrotman: yeh. =) and longer than that and ive wasted too much time |
| 01:44.10 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: start an mua war |
| 01:44.12 | ravenbird | pine rules |
| 01:44.18 | FieldySnuts | it's license doesn't |
| 01:44.20 | bbhill | elm |
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| 01:44.31 | FieldySnuts | heh i like how pine means Pine Is Not Elm |
| 01:44.31 | bbhill | birch is my favorite client |
| 01:44.35 | bbhill | or cedar |
| 01:44.40 | abrotman | if my ribcage cracks like my back .. this is bad right? |
| 01:44.46 | abrotman | you know .. down the front |
| 01:44.51 | dave_ | abrotman: ok, its gonna upgrade.. im gonna exit of kde, i'll be back when it gets done |
| 01:44.54 | adjacent | self referencing acronyms are fun |
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| 01:44.57 | abrotman | dave_: hopefully |
| 01:44.59 | FieldySnuts | yeah |
| 01:45.00 | abrotman | !bless dave_ |
| 01:45.01 | dave_ | yeah.. |
| 01:45.01 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child dave_, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 01:45.02 | dvs | bbhill: I'm essentric: I like maple ;-) |
| 01:45.02 | bbrazil | I said it before and I'll say it again: my mail client uses yours as a urinal |
| 01:45.16 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 01:45.23 | bagpuss_thecat | would anyone know why a brand new install of debian sarge results in grub error 18 at bootup? |
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| 01:45.43 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: pee on bbrazil |
| 01:45.51 | FieldySnuts | oh haha i didn't think it would do it |
| 01:45.51 | scarynetworkguy | adjacent: recursive the word you are looking for is recursive. This is basic geek knowledge ffs. |
| 01:45.54 | adjacent | bagpuss_thecat: go to bios and rescane the hd, or enable large disk support |
| 01:45.54 | PantherMachina | bagpuss_thecat: cuz grub is not your friend? |
| 01:46.11 | PantherMachina | wowo, you actually know the number |
| 01:46.25 | adjacent | scarynetworkguy: the word i was looking for was the word i said, but thanks for the suggestions |
| 01:46.35 | bbrazil | FieldySnuts: needed a drink |
| 01:46.42 | abrotman | ew |
| 01:46.48 | bob2 | chaaarming |
| 01:47.01 | adjacent | bagpuss_thecat: i KNOW that is how you fix the error ;) |
| 01:47.08 | FieldySnuts | tcpdump on a 100Mbps wan link is bad |
| 01:47.20 | bagpuss_thecat | adjacent: genius! |
| 01:47.30 | bagpuss_thecat | well, I moved it from being LBA specific, to being auto |
| 01:47.33 | adjacent | FieldySnuts: use -w file and look with ethereal =) |
| 01:47.41 | adjacent | anyway, im out to dinner, and the bar. later all |
| 01:47.44 | FieldySnuts | nah I did -X and flooded myself lff |
| 01:47.45 | bagpuss_thecat | adjacent: thanks very much :-) |
| 01:47.46 | bagpuss_thecat | enjoy dinner |
| 01:47.47 | FieldySnuts | off |
| 01:47.51 | adjacent | no problem |
| 01:48.05 | adjacent | FieldySnuts: haha |
| 01:48.12 | FieldySnuts | oopsie |
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| 01:49.07 | scarynetworkguy | adjacent: The standard term for that kind of thing is "recursive acronym". So. |
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| 01:49.42 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: better than .. dump |
| 01:49.49 | abrotman | backups are such a pain :) |
| 01:49.56 | virgomoon | Greetings all. |
| 01:50.17 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Heh. |
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| 01:50.48 | scarynetworkguy | FieldySnuts: The key is to put yourself into a Jedi/Sith trance. |
| 01:50.58 | FieldySnuts | i'll pass rackboy |
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| 01:51.15 | abrotman | i would like to be doing my taxes now |
| 01:51.23 | scarynetworkguy | Heh. |
| 01:51.23 | FieldySnuts | you are a sick, sick individual |
| 01:51.31 | abrotman | it takes me 10 minutes |
| 01:51.34 | abrotman | i don't own anything |
| 01:51.38 | FieldySnuts | i haven't done em in like 9 years or something |
| 01:51.42 | scarynetworkguy | !bofhsmite abrotman |
| 01:51.46 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:51.49 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: you don't like the irs? |
| 01:51.55 | FieldySnuts | it's not that, i'm just laz y |
| 01:51.58 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: why? |
| 01:52.02 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Does anybody? |
| 01:52.10 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: oh .. you pay someone else |
| 01:52.15 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Even if they are easy wanting to do them is a smitable offense. |
| 01:52.18 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: it's not that oyu haven't filed .. you just haven't done them |
| 01:52.24 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: but i can buy the guitar? |
| 01:52.28 | FieldySnuts | eh i'm confused |
| 01:52.39 | FieldySnuts | no, i haven't done them nor has anyone else |
| 01:52.43 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: you pay someone else .. like H&R ? |
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| 01:52.45 | virgomoon | I'm trying to burn some cds with cdrecord using an IDE drive and keep getting a write error. It gets partway through the burn (seemingly random amount) and it just stops with a write error. Does this sound like a drive problem. This is the 8th attempt with the same prob. |
| 01:52.48 | ghs6 | hi i want to learn how to use google like an expert and learn things like inurl: you know bla bla, there is a good book or some e book or some howto about it? |
| 01:53.00 | FieldySnuts | eh? |
| 01:53.01 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: I don't know. Can you? |
| 01:53.14 | FieldySnuts | @rrape ghs6 |
| 01:53.15 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i should be able to |
| 01:53.20 | abrotman | ghs6: ask amazon.com |
| 01:53.20 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: rape ghs6 |
| 01:53.20 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: je le sais pas, pourrait-tu me l'expliquer? |
| 01:53.22 | dondelelcaro | ghs6: there are a few oreilly ones, like google hacks. |
| 01:53.28 | FieldySnuts | somebody translate that for me? |
| 01:53.33 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Cool. What guitar? |
| 01:53.38 | dondelelcaro | ghs6: but most of it is just reading the google website and their own documentation, which is rather copious. |
| 01:53.50 | ghs6 | •dondelelcaro• yes i know but could you point me to a good one? |
| 01:53.55 | abrotman | @literal cmd: rape (.*?) |
| 01:54.00 | ghs6 | sorry about the script |
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| 01:54.08 | FieldySnuts | it used to say "can't rape the willing" or something really mean |
| 01:54.09 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: the one from -ot |
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| 01:54.15 | TimbrWolf | virgomoom: Are you using ide-scsi? |
| 01:54.20 | bob2 | FieldySnuts: no |
| 01:54.26 | FieldySnuts | bob2: :/ |
| 01:54.29 | virgomoon | TimbrWolf: IDE |
| 01:54.37 | dondelelcaro | ghs6: see http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596004478/ FE |
| 01:54.47 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: i dn't know .. could you explain it |
| 01:54.52 | dondelelcaro | ghs6: and loose the ^U in your nick complete output. |
| 01:54.53 | FieldySnuts | .. |
| 01:54.57 | dondelelcaro | s/oo/o/ |
| 01:55.00 | bob2 | what is it with newbies and distro-shopping? |
| 01:55.02 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: that's what ravenbird said |
| 01:55.12 | bob2 | trying out knoppix, ubuntu, debian and mepis in one week seems kinda pointless |
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| 01:55.20 | TimbrWolf | virgomoon: Run 'cdrecord --scanbus' as root |
| 01:55.22 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: are you running windows? |
| 01:55.22 | abrotman | bob2: world tour of linux? |
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| 01:55.27 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: no? |
| 01:55.34 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: not here .. i have it on my laptop .. why? |
| 01:55.44 | FieldySnuts | just something else ravenbird says when confused |
| 01:55.49 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 01:55.57 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: w32920f? |
| 01:55.59 | ravenbird | wish i knew, FieldySnuts |
| 01:56.12 | virgomoon | TimbrWolf: scanbus won't find anything. I've using "dev='ATAPI:/dev/hdc'" on the command line. |
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| 01:56.33 | scarynetworkguy | kinda? |
| 01:56.43 | bob2 | I want everyone with an IDE cd burner to upgrade to a 2.6 kernel. |
| 01:56.50 | FieldySnuts | amen |
| 01:56.52 | bob2 | just so I don'thave to see 'ATAPI' ever again |
| 01:56.56 | TimbrWolf | virgomoon : What kernel are you using? |
| 01:56.58 | dvs | virgomoon: scanbus dev=ATAPI -scanbus |
| 01:57.17 | virgomoon | TimbrWolf: I've got Sarge installed. |
| 01:57.18 | bob2 | oh amn |
| 01:57.27 | bob2 | you don't need scanbus when you know where the drive is already |
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| 01:57.54 | FieldySnuts | feeding the mice bbl |
| 01:58.11 | TimbrWolf | virgomoon : run 'uname -r' to get kernel version |
| 01:58.15 | virgomoon | ah |
| 01:58.29 | virgomoon | 2.4.27-1-386 |
| 01:58.46 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: will you take my sister's rats? |
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| 01:59.12 | TimbrWolf | virgomoon : I believe you have to pass the ide-scsi driver to the kernel for this to work |
| 01:59.23 | TimbrWolf | At least that is what I do |
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| 01:59.46 | jcarr | grrr.. lame found my cd-rw drive with no problem.. .how can I get gtoaster to see it? |
| 02:00.15 | TimbrWolf | virgomoon : If you cd-rw is /dev/hdc (you can check by reading /var/log/dmesg) |
| 02:00.19 | virgomoon | TimbrWolf: Is it a performance tweek? It seems to work for a bit, but just bombs out. If it was haing a problem writing wouldn't it just not do it all? |
| 02:00.32 | PantherMachina | you tell it where it is |
| 02:00.32 | PantherMachina | it's in the preferences |
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| 02:00.48 | virgomoon | TimbrWolf: that's right, it's /dev/hdc. |
| 02:00.57 | TimbrWolf | virgomoon : At boot prompt : pass |
| 02:01.05 | jcarr | panthera, yes, but how can I find out where the cd drive is? |
| 02:01.11 | TimbrWolf | 'hdc=ide-scsi |
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| 02:01.25 | jcarr | how do I know that's right? |
| 02:01.31 | jcarr | can I do what ever lame did to find it? |
| 02:01.48 | TimbrWolf | virgomoon : sorry, pass hdc=ide-scsi |
| 02:01.58 | virgomoon | ah, all one line |
| 02:02.05 | TimbrWolf | yup |
| 02:02.34 | jcarr | anyone? |
| 02:02.34 | TimbrWolf | At boot up; try cdrecord --scanbus as root |
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| 02:02.46 | virgomoon | OK, I feel like an idiot now. I don't get a 'boot prompt'. |
| 02:02.56 | TimbrWolf | It should detect your CD-RW |
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| 02:03.42 | virgomoon | TimbrWolf: It's detecting and going to burn already, it just bombs out after writing some. I've had it go 10MB, some 250MB, and a 500MB. |
| 02:03.50 | TimbrWolf | Then you must append hdc=ide-scsi to your lilo config file |
| 02:04.02 | TimbrWolf | And rerun lilo |
| 02:04.09 | jcarr | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 02:04.18 | jcarr | TimbrWolf, is that to me? |
| 02:04.19 | TimbrWolf | Good idea to back up these files first :-) |
| 02:05.05 | virgomoon | I just did a locate on lilo.conf. It doesn't appear to be there. odd. |
| 02:05.43 | covux | hi. iam searching for an good mailserver solution. question 1 exim vs. xmail? which one "wins"? :-) qu. 2 are there anywhere good how to's for quick setup? thx for any help and ideas |
| 02:05.45 | TimbrWolf | Are you running one operating system? |
| 02:05.57 | virgomoon | yes |
| 02:06.06 | TimbrWolf | oh |
| 02:06.18 | TimbrWolf | Not use to that one |
| 02:06.22 | virgomoon | AH, that would be why. I was worried there for a minute. |
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| 02:06.41 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: youre using grub to boot probably, that doesnt change to much |
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| 02:07.06 | virgomoon | yeah, there's a grub dir in /boot |
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| 02:07.32 | jcarr | what must I do to get SCSI emulation going? |
| 02:07.53 | jcarr | and why does it STILL require it? |
| 02:07.58 | virgomoon | So what would make it randomly get a write error. I would understand if it never started, but it does. |
| 02:07.59 | mwilson | Other than read the instructions? And it doesn't. |
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| 02:08.16 | bob2 | jcarr: 2.6 doesn't |
| 02:08.24 | bob2 | if you're using 2.4, yhl, hth, hand. |
| 02:08.42 | mwilson | Endless information in Google about it, and everyone claims they can never find it. |
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| 02:09.06 | stew | !yhl |
| 02:09.18 | jbr | mwilson: endless slightly-out-of-date non-debian information, especially |
| 02:09.20 | jcarr | I'm using 2.6 |
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| 02:09.33 | bob2 | then don't use scsi emulation |
| 02:09.35 | bob2 | we all win! |
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| 02:09.58 | mwilson | jbr: Ok, I'll bite... in what way has SCSI emulation changed across the lifetime of 2.4 that would make it "out-of-date", and what could possibly be "Debian-specific" about it? |
| 02:10.23 | mwilson | In other words "<whine> I shouldn't have to think for myself! </whine>" |
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| 02:11.26 | jbr | mwilson: 2.6.9 won't work with cdrecord and my cdrw (and yes, following howtos), 2.4 will (barely) |
| 02:11.34 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: add "hdc=ide-scsi" to the line that starts w/ "# kopt=" in /boot/grub/menu.lst" |
| 02:11.49 | tercel | 2.6.9 works with cdrecord just fine over ehre |
| 02:11.53 | tercel | err.. here |
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| 02:11.59 | jbr | mwilson: oh, and of course udev helps break everything |
| 02:12.04 | bob2 | jbr: where's your bug report? |
| 02:12.11 | tercel | udev also works with no flaws here |
| 02:12.18 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: after that, "update-grub" - thats to enable scsi emulation, however dont ask me if that fixes your problem.. |
| 02:12.30 | Raf256 | how to limit how much memory (phisical / virtual) can all processes of given use? |
| 02:12.41 | bob2 | I'm not sure how udev could possibly break cd writing, since it doesn't even change the name of the nodes. |
| 02:12.53 | virgomoon | valdyn_: add it to the 'end' of that line or on another by itself? |
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| 02:13.07 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: to the end |
| 02:13.13 | dusty | :) |
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| 02:13.49 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: and remember that part, you will need to remove it once or if you upgrade to a 2.6 kernel |
| 02:14.25 | virgomoon | valdyn_ just do make sure I understand before I jack it up... I have "# kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro" and I'll end up with "# kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro hdc=ide-scsi", right? |
| 02:14.26 | pakal | hi, I can't drag an image from Mozilla to Gimp 2.2 as I use to do |
| 02:14.46 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: yea, exactly |
| 02:14.47 | mwilson | bob2: I'm sure he'll claim it changes the permissions or something. |
| 02:14.53 | virgomoon | alrighty |
| 02:15.09 | mwilson | bob2: And apparently we missed the gun to his head forcing him to use it in the first place. |
| 02:15.19 | jbr | mwilson: it certainly changes the way the devices are created (or not) |
| 02:15.30 | mwilson | jbr: Except that it doesn't, of course. |
| 02:15.35 | virgomoon | valdun_: I'm assuing I'll have to reboot for it to take effect, right? |
| 02:15.48 | tercel | jbr: a device node with a given major and minor number are the same. no matter how they were created |
| 02:15.52 | valdyn_ | valdyn_: first do "update-grub" in a shell as root |
| 02:15.58 | tercel | jbr: and in fact, udev creates them the same way |
| 02:16.04 | virgomoon | valdun_: I'm just leaving no room for error. Did the update-grub. |
| 02:16.18 | jbr | tercel: except when udev has no rules to create any |
| 02:16.27 | virgomoon | If I'm back in a minute, it worked. If not, send in the National Guard. |
| 02:16.39 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: alright ) |
| 02:16.46 | tercel | well who's fault is that.... |
| 02:16.47 | bob2 | jbr: any module that doesn't work with udev is stupidly old and should have a bug reported against it |
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| 02:16.53 | bob2 | jbr: have tou encountered any? |
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| 02:17.06 | jbr | bob2: who says I was using modules? |
| 02:17.25 | cekor | any anjuta users here who know if there's a way to get it to make c++ files .cpp instead of .cc by default? |
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| 02:20.12 | virgomoon | kewl |
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| 02:20.27 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: that nothing broke? |
| 02:20.35 | virgomoon | yeah |
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| 02:20.58 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: cdrecord -scanbus |
| 02:21.01 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone here good with mod_rewrite? |
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| 02:21.04 | virgomoon | hey, no dev="ATAPI:" needed. Sweet. |
| 02:21.10 | tercel | woah. freakin awesome nick |
| 02:21.11 | Led_Zeppelin | trying to do this: http://foo.com/{any number} -> http://foo.com:8080/foo/foo/foo={any number} ? |
| 02:21.19 | Duelist | virgomoon: You can just do dev=/dev/hdc I think |
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| 02:21.26 | Duelist | That's what k3b appears to do |
| 02:21.50 | virgomoon | Thanks for the help guys. I still don't understand why this would fix the write problems. |
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| 02:22.28 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: bob2 knows! |
| 02:22.56 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: redirectmatch |
| 02:23.07 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, what? |
| 02:23.14 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: should be easy enough, what have you tried? |
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| 02:23.33 | virgomoon | Is bob2 around? |
| 02:23.38 | bob2 | no |
| 02:23.43 | virgomoon | ok, just checking |
| 02:23.47 | Led_Zeppelin | stew, well, I am trying basic regex |
| 02:23.55 | bob2 | if you have a question, you ask it |
| 02:23.55 | gravity | Just insult python, he'll come running |
| 02:23.56 | Led_Zeppelin | RewriteRule ^/([0-9]+)$ |
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| 02:24.04 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: in apache? |
| 02:24.10 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, yes, apache. |
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| 02:24.17 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, .htaccess file, btw |
| 02:24.30 | abrotman | that i don't know . but httpd.conf can do it |
| 02:24.39 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: you need to say what to rewrite it too |
| 02:24.42 | stew | err to |
| 02:25.01 | abrotman | and need mod_rewrite i thik |
| 02:25.04 | Led_Zeppelin | stew, heh ofcourse, thats the easy part. the regex is being a pain |
| 02:25.19 | Led_Zeppelin | stealth, i think I just got it. |
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| 02:25.28 | virgomoon | I've been trying to do some cd burns. valdyn_ just walked me through getting ide-scsi loaded and that all works. We did this because I was getting write errors on cd burns. Part of it would write, but it'd bomb out at random. I've still not got a full cd after 8 tries. Why would adding the ide-scsi fix that or would it? |
| 02:25.57 | jbr | tercel: (back) "well who's fault is that..."? the maintainer's, if he can't wtfm. |
| 02:26.12 | Duelist | virgomoon: I'm able to burn just fine without ide-scsi loaded |
| 02:26.15 | tercel | heheh there are manuals all over the internet |
| 02:26.30 | Duelist | try just dev=/dev/hdc or wherever the thing is |
| 02:26.31 | valdyn_ | Duelist: on a 2.4.x kernel? |
| 02:26.40 | virgomoon | If the drive was bad wouldn't it just not work at all? |
| 02:26.48 | Duelist | I'm on 2.6.x right now but could try again with 2.4.x |
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| 02:27.00 | jbr | tercel: udev gets pulled in by dependencies, without any warning or explanation of what problem it's supposed to solve |
| 02:27.05 | bob2 | please don't suggest thingsd if you have no idea if it will work |
| 02:27.14 | Duelist | bob2: I'm saying what works for me |
| 02:27.18 | bob2 | jbr: gnome needs it. have fun removing it. |
| 02:27.20 | bob2 | Duelist: on 2.6 |
| 02:27.23 | valdyn_ | Duelist: 2.6 is something entirely different in this case.. |
| 02:27.27 | bob2 | virgomoon: are you running it as root? |
| 02:27.27 | jbr | tercel: indeed, how would anyone know it's udev that's involved? |
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| 02:27.37 | virgomoon | bob2: yes |
| 02:27.43 | Duelist | Okay, never mind then. |
| 02:27.46 | AdrianLP | Xfree86, mine starts, but if I hit just about any key (including some non-printing), my monitor goes black, clicks as if its switching profiles, then refreses the screen. I've tried several drivers (ati, fglrx, vga16, etc), they all do the same thing. Is anyone able to help? |
| 02:27.58 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, looks like you are right. I may need to do a redirectmatch |
| 02:27.59 | Duelist | But that brings up an interesting question: what reason is there for one *not* to run 2.6? |
| 02:28.02 | walnuck | any font maintainers here? there seems to be no decent doc about how fonts are used in debian |
| 02:28.06 | bob2 | virgomoon: how fast are you burning? what speed is the machine? is the cd drive and hard drive on the same ide channel? |
| 02:28.16 | walnuck | my fonts* are yucky |
| 02:28.17 | jbr | tercel: still, I should stop moaning - as bob2 points out, I didn't send any bugreports |
| 02:28.24 | bob2 | walnuck: /msg dpkg font guide |
| 02:28.29 | RollerAJ | I am new to Debian and trying to istall... I am doing a netinstall. when apt connects I get "0% [Connecting to http://http.us.debian.org (1.0.0.0)]". I am guessing the number "1.0.0.0" is the resolved IP? I have check name resolution on my system and it works fine... |
| 02:28.36 | bob2 | jbr: if udev breaks anything at all, file a bug |
| 02:28.45 | walnuck | bob2: aha! |
| 02:28.46 | AdrianLP | bob2: Hello, how are you this day? I tried using the ati driver you recommended, it doesn't work. startx will start using it, but acts funny thereafter. |
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| 02:28.50 | tercel | jbr: now you are complaining about dependencies? I thought it was udev. are you angry at the udev maintainers, the debian maintainers that made the packages, or just anything that you can think of? |
| 02:28.52 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: i win :) |
| 02:28.53 | virgomoon | bob2: various, I've tried 4x, 8x, 32x, 52x. It's on a PIII-450. I think they're on different channels. I'll check, standby. |
| 02:28.58 | bob2 | RollerAJ: on the machiine you're installing from? |
| 02:28.59 | PantherMachina | 1.0.0.0 is quite a unique ip to resolve to |
| 02:29.04 | jbr | bob2: the lack-of-docs bug was already there |
| 02:29.14 | RollerAJ | bob2: yes correct. |
| 02:29.14 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, you can get the gold price, if you can give me the redirectmatch for my problem ;p |
| 02:29.41 | virgomoon | bob2: nope, cd and hd on different ribbons |
| 02:29.48 | jbr | tercel: explaining how it's not a case of rtfm |
| 02:29.49 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: not off the top of my head .. but ifyou want me to look i can |
| 02:29.50 | bob2 | AdrianLP: are you sure the hardware is ok? |
| 02:30.05 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: apache1 or 2? |
| 02:30.11 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, 2 |
| 02:30.13 | AdrianLP | bob2: I was using it just two days ago with X. Before I started messing around with reinstalling X, it had been working fine. |
| 02:30.15 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, no 1.3 |
| 02:30.31 | bob2 | virgomoon: try adding fs=16m |
| 02:30.43 | bob2 | virgomoon: so it caches a bit before writing |
| 02:30.54 | abrotman | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/rewriteguide.html |
| 02:30.54 | bob2 | virgomoon: assuming you get buffer underruns |
| 02:31.05 | bob2 | AdrianLP: ok, I have no idea, sorry...they might know on debian-x. |
| 02:31.09 | AdrianLP | bob2: Perhaps I should check the card seating in the MB? The boxen has been moved about recently. If it was misseated is it possible that it may work in console but not X? |
| 02:31.16 | bob2 | AdrianLP: yes |
| 02:31.26 | AdrianLP | I'll check the seating then. |
| 02:31.45 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: did you read that? |
| 02:31.46 | virgomoon | bob2: I've watched the buffers while it's recording and nothing goes below 90%. |
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| 02:31.49 | AdrianLP | bob2: You recommend the Debian users mailing list otherwise? |
| 02:32.07 | virgomoon | bob2: I'll try it, though. |
| 02:32.12 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, yes |
| 02:32.16 | bob2 | AdrianLP: I guess so, or debian-x. if it's not hardware, I couldn't even guess what the problem is. |
| 02:32.21 | bob2 | virgomoon: hrm, sure the drive is ok? |
| 02:32.33 | virgomoon | bob2: I'm not sure of much right now. |
| 02:32.33 | AdrianLP | bob2: debian-x? Oh, channel? |
| 02:32.41 | bob2 | AdrianLP: another list. |
| 02:32.49 | AdrianLP | bob2: I see. Ok, thank you. |
| 02:32.51 | virgomoon | bob2: If it was the drive, it just wouldn't work at all, would it? |
| 02:32.56 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: and you couldn't figure it out? |
| 02:32.57 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: you can try a full run in emulation |
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| 02:33.04 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, almost there.. |
| 02:33.05 | virgomoon | bob2: Or are burners more of an incremental failure. |
| 02:33.28 | bob2 | virgomoon: if they're old and the laser is flaking out, they tend to start just burning crap instead of failing completely |
| 02:33.31 | bob2 | virgomoon: right |
| 02:33.43 | virgomoon | valdyn_: what do you mean, like a trial run? |
| 02:33.52 | virgomoon | bob2: ah |
| 02:34.07 | Duelist | bob2: I had one fail that would no longer rewrite CD-RW discs |
| 02:34.15 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: yea, forgot the switch, it will do a full burn, just with laser off |
| 02:34.17 | Duelist | It will still burn virgin CD-RW, and CD-R |
| 02:34.35 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: almost? |
| 02:34.37 | virgomoon | Duelist: that's weird |
| 02:34.39 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: so your discs wont be wasted |
| 02:34.48 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, yea...getting close. My regex is a little awkward |
| 02:35.11 | abrotman | so is apache's ;) |
| 02:35.21 | virgomoon | valdun_: cdrecord man pages don't say anything about emulation. Would it be called something else? |
| 02:35.25 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: try to burn something w/ -dummy |
| 02:35.43 | bob2 | heh, dummy mode on my drive doesn't actually disable the laser |
| 02:35.53 | virgomoon | ah, dummy, there it is |
| 02:36.02 | valdyn_ | bob2: what does it do? |
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| 02:36.16 | bob2 | valdyn_: wreck a perfectly good cdr, usually |
| 02:36.20 | Duelist | virgomoon: Tell me about it! |
| 02:36.26 | valdyn_ | bob2: heh, works for me |
| 02:36.39 | Duelist | virgomoon: Is bob2's problem weird? |
| 02:36.52 | Duelist | That has to be the most bizarro problem I've heard of |
| 02:36.58 | bob2 | -dummy not working? |
| 02:37.02 | Duelist | Yeah |
| 02:37.12 | bob2 | I just assume it's because LG has shitty firmware or something |
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| 02:37.19 | bob2 | the drive is...3 years old or so |
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| 02:37.28 | valdyn_ | Duelist: some drives dont support it, its even in the manpage |
| 02:37.33 | Duelist | Ah |
| 02:37.36 | virgomoon | Duelist: I thought it was you that said something about it would not rewrite cd-rws. |
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| 02:37.47 | Duelist | virgomoon: Yeah, it was. |
| 02:37.58 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: done yet? |
| 02:38.03 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, nope. |
| 02:38.05 | Duelist | But I was talking about bob2's drive that doesn't grok -dummy |
| 02:38.10 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: come on .. quick slackin :) |
| 02:38.24 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: i have to go to salem/cowtown on monday :) |
| 02:38.25 | virgomoon | Off it goes ... |
| 02:38.51 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, RedirectMatch /([0-9]*)/ ? |
| 02:38.59 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: are you asking me? |
| 02:39.01 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, does that look bad for number |
| 02:39.05 | virgomoon | Buffers and fifo staying >95% |
| 02:39.08 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: looks fine to me |
| 02:39.15 | abrotman | wait |
| 02:39.21 | abrotman | take off the trailing / i think |
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| 02:39.57 | jcarr | I ran cdrecord --scanbus |
| 02:40.04 | jcarr | it told me nothing about what it might be |
| 02:40.06 | abrotman | RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://fully.qualified.domain.name/$1 [L,R] |
| 02:40.08 | abrotman | no? |
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| 02:40.38 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, what the heck does that do? |
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| 02:41.18 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: try it ? :) |
| 02:41.24 | jan___ | Jan 9 03:31:04 stingray named[9370]: dumping master file: tmp-XXXXOLbXBv: open: permission denied , /var/named is 750 , root:named (== default) |
| 02:41.25 | jcarr | anyone know? |
| 02:41.27 | jan___ | should i change the dir perms or .. ? |
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| 02:41.36 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: actually .. it's probably not right .. that would take anything after .. and rewrite it .. i think |
| 02:41.56 | virgomoon | If the dummy burn goes well, but I still get a write error, I have a bad drive, right? |
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| 02:42.41 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: i think so, since -dummy write still uses your drive |
| 02:42.45 | isga | Hi |
| 02:43.03 | virgomoon | There, it's done. No errors. |
| 02:43.11 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: /([0-9]*)$ <whereyouwantittogo> |
| 02:43.17 | abrotman | ?? |
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| 02:43.23 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: maybe . i don't have apache installed here |
| 02:43.24 | virgomoon | Now, let's try it w/o -dummy. |
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| 02:43.30 | zenlunatic | what firewall does 2.6 ship with? |
| 02:43.41 | valdyn_ | jcarr: cdrecord --scanbus shows nothing too if you drive isnt connected via scsi or ide-scsi |
| 02:43.43 | tercel | netfilter |
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| 02:43.52 | jbr | abrotman: not sure of context, but isn't [0-9]* going to match the sequence of zero numerals at the start of any string? |
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| 02:44.10 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, I think I got it :-) |
| 02:44.13 | abrotman | jbr: it's apache .. should match any sequence of numbers |
| 02:44.17 | hellz_hunter | how do i find out what patches, if any, are added into packages from debian? |
| 02:44.25 | abrotman | hellz_hunter: changelog |
| 02:44.34 | abrotman | hellz_hunter: which package |
| 02:44.40 | isga | What can i do if the nvidia module does not work correct? |
| 02:44.45 | abrotman | #nvidia |
| 02:44.55 | isga | thanks |
| 02:44.59 | valdyn_ | isga /msg dpkg nvidia also |
| 02:45.07 | hellz_hunter | abrotman: no package specifically, just curious, but if you want an example, the kernel source |
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| 02:45.17 | abrotman | hellz_hunter: i need a package name |
| 02:45.32 | virgomoon | What's OPC in cdrecord? I got a "cdrecord: OPC failed" |
| 02:45.49 | jbr | abrotman: quite sure it won't match "foo" (which starts with any-number-of-numerals, ie zero)? |
| 02:46.01 | hellz_hunter | abrotman: kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 02:46.03 | abrotman | jbernard: nope |
| 02:46.09 | abrotman | jbr: don't think it will |
| 02:46.17 | abrotman | hellz_hunter: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.6.8/kernel-source-2.6.8_2.6.8-11/changelog |
| 02:46.18 | isga | the nvidia module work but at every boot i must install it :-> |
| 02:46.19 | jcarr | valdyn_, what can I do!> |
| 02:46.21 | bob2 | virgomoon: something power calibration, iirc |
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| 02:46.34 | jbr | abrotman: oh well, I've never tested apache regexps very far |
| 02:46.41 | abrotman | hellz_hunter: if you go to packages.debian.org/<packagename> .. and find your package .. scroll to the bottom .. it will say "Debian changelog" |
| 02:46.54 | valdyn_ | jcarr: cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus |
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| 02:47.59 | virgomoon | Let's try with a fresh disk. |
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| 02:48.23 | Strife | so I'm using GDM, and I would like to have it so that I can run the command 'xset m 1.5' (which unfortunately as far as I can tell can't be set in XF86Config), but everything I've tried has thus far failed... any ideas? |
| 02:48.28 | trand | hmm... someone is saying to me, "running epiphany on gnome is faster than running epiphany on fluxbox'. |
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| 02:48.33 | trand | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.41 | valdyn_ | virgomoon: sometimes cdrecord used to complain about "weird" stuff if disk isnt reinserted, but i dont recall details |
| 02:48.54 | gravity | trand: I doubt it, although starting up epiphany the first time in gnome is probably faster than in flux |
| 02:49.03 | abrotman | trand: kind of .. just the first time |
| 02:49.13 | virgomoon | There is goes... finally. |
| 02:49.20 | walnuck | bob2: do u know if i can place msttcorefonts path in X's config? (sarg-testing) |
| 02:49.28 | abrotman | trand: be a question more suited for #gnome on irc.gnome.org |
| 02:49.37 | bob2 | walnuck: yes, you can |
| 02:49.54 | virgomoon | Nope same problem. Damn, I'm just going to have to fit for a new drive. Any recommendations? |
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| 02:50.07 | walnuck | bob2: why do docs say to use xfs*tt server, can i go by now without using an xfs* ? |
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| 02:50.22 | trand | i see. thanks for all reply. :) |
| 02:50.35 | bob2 | walnuck: the docs are old and wrong |
| 02:50.47 | walnuck | !kill the docs! |
| 02:50.53 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:50.56 | walnuck | hah cool |
| 02:51.00 | walnuck | dpkg kills himself |
| 02:51.00 | dpkg | walnuck: wish i knew |
| 02:51.03 | tercel | heheh thats a funny bot |
| 02:51.16 | abrotman | !love tercel |
| 02:51.17 | walnuck | dpkg: kill me |
| 02:51.23 | usuario | I followed nodm rules from dpkg and now how do I reenable kdm? Reinstalling kdm and echo "kdm" > /etc/X11/default[...] did not fix it. Even installing gdm to make dpkg configure default dm didn't help it. |
| 02:51.25 | walnuck | ah |
| 02:51.29 | tercel | Yikes! |
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| 02:51.32 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: lart walnuck |
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| 02:51.48 | pder | i dont understand why i can not open /dev/scd0 in read/write mode in a program even though i have permissions |
| 02:52.02 | valdyn_ | usuario: you can edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager by hand |
| 02:52.04 | jcarr | 0,0,0 0) 'QSI ' 'CDRW/DVD SBW242U' 'UD25' Removable CD-ROM |
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| 02:52.13 | virgomoon | Alright, discovering that I have a sick drive (at least for writes), I'm jumping out of here to go shopping. |
| 02:52.17 | walnuck | bob2: thanks for the info, where can i find decent docs, there's one in tldp from an ibmsponsor |
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| 02:52.38 | usuario | valdyn_: I put kdm, but when I reboot it says something like: will not load kdm, not default |
| 02:52.47 | valdyn_ | usuario: or your can /msg dpkg x md5 to learn about how this mechanism works with dpkg-reconfigure |
| 02:53.00 | stew | walnuck: /msg dpkg font guide |
| 02:53.19 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: get it? |
| 02:53.25 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, got it,. |
| 02:53.26 | jcarr | valdyn_, ack.. how can I set the same thing in gtoaster |
| 02:53.32 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: let's see it |
| 02:53.36 | walnuck | stew: if my fonts are still ugly can i ask to see your config? |
| 02:53.48 | walnuck | i'm preying** |
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| 02:53.53 | walnuck | gotta test this |
| 02:53.54 | valdyn_ | jcarr: i dont know gtoaster |
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| 02:54.00 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, RedirectMatch /([0-9]*) http://foo.com:$1/foo/foo/foo/foo=$1 |
| 02:54.01 | jcarr | what do you use? |
| 02:54.18 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: so i was good eh? |
| 02:54.28 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, eh? |
| 02:54.35 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: /lastlog abrotman .. where i said that :) |
| 02:54.39 | valdyn_ | jcarr: cdrecord |
| 02:54.48 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, lol |
| 02:55.00 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, actually, now, my other rules don't work :-( |
| 02:55.06 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: nice |
| 02:55.07 | valdyn_ | jcarr: you might want to have a look into k3b though if you want a gui |
| 02:55.17 | bbrazil | Led_Zeppelin: s/*/+/ |
| 02:55.28 | poseur | i'm currently using gcc 3.3.5 but need 2.95 to compile a certain program, is it possible to somehow downgrade it temporairly? |
| 02:55.35 | valdyn_ | usuario: whats in /etc/X11/default-display-manager ? |
| 02:55.41 | hellz_hunter | abrotman: so i can just search for a patch i might have in mind and see if its applied? |
| 02:55.47 | PerfDave | poseur: You should be able to install both |
| 02:55.48 | Led_Zeppelin | bbrazil, phhhew |
| 02:55.52 | abrotman | hellz_hunter: you can |
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| 02:55.54 | Led_Zeppelin | bbrazil, thanks! |
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| 02:56.12 | poseur | PerfDave, if i install 2.95 how i use it? would gcc have a diff name? like gcc-2.95 or something.. |
| 02:56.13 | bbrazil | Led_Zeppelin: I spotted that a good while back, thought someone else would catch it |
| 02:56.21 | usuario | valdyn_: just the line "kdm"; I'm also pretty sure XF86Config was conflicting because I do manual edits |
| 02:56.23 | Led_Zeppelin | bbrazil, heh...good! |
| 02:56.30 | PerfDave | poseur: Yes |
| 02:56.36 | poseur | thanks |
| 02:56.37 | PerfDave | poseur: I think. I haven't tried it though. |
| 02:56.47 | PerfDave | poseur: If you're compiling your own programs, be sure to /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 02:56.55 | krenin | good evening |
| 02:56.58 | valdyn_ | usuario: XF86Config-4 wont "conflict" with your dm |
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| 02:57.00 | puRpLeHaZe | hello there, i am trying to install need for speed underground on my debian machine using wine! because it has more than 1 cd, i need to install the game from another dir than /cdrom! but by doing so, wine crashes! if i start it from /cdrom/ everything works fine - until i need to change the cds |
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| 02:57.13 | abrotman | puRpLeHaZe: #winehq |
| 02:57.16 | valdyn_ | usuario: and kdm isnt enough, more like /usr/bin/kdm or wherever it is |
| 02:57.34 | usuario | valdyn_: I'll try that |
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| 02:57.37 | xnotte | anyone knows a media player with library ? i've got xmms, but it doesnt have a library |
| 02:57.46 | abrotman | xnotte: it has a playlist |
| 02:57.47 | Strife | xnotte: rhythmbox |
| 02:57.55 | jcarr | cd burning is the one thing in linux that could be done better |
| 02:57.58 | valdyn_ | usuario: "which kdm" if you dont know where it is. |
| 02:58.02 | bwlang_ | puRpLeHaZe: you might try making an iso file of the cds and mounting them as different drives for wine... |
| 02:58.05 | FieldySnuts | how so? nothing wrong with it |
| 02:58.10 | PerfDave | jcarr: How "done better"? k3b does everything I want. |
| 02:58.20 | usuario | valdyn_: it's in that directory, I see |
| 02:58.51 | FieldySnuts | with three tools i do all my cd and dvd writing and iso making, mkisofs growisofs cdrecord |
| 02:59.00 | puRpLeHaZe | abrotman, bwlang_ 10q for your help, ima try out your tipps |
| 02:59.16 | FieldySnuts | which is actually all in one tool, cdrtools |
| 02:59.48 | hettar | xnotte: amarok |
| 02:59.58 | xnotte | thx hettar |
| 03:00.03 | xnotte | i'll check that |
| 03:00.15 | hellz_hunter | abrotman: thank you very much |
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| 03:00.27 | jcarr | godammit.. I installed k3d by mistake |
| 03:00.27 | abrotman | i guess i broke something |
| 03:01.25 | Duelist | k3b is a very nice tool |
| 03:01.35 | Duelist | that said I wish there was a gtk/gnome equivalent |
| 03:01.45 | jcarr | Dellen el couche! |
| 03:02.16 | abrotman | eroaster is nice |
| 03:02.24 | abrotman | Duelist: and gnome has nautilus burner |
| 03:02.43 | usuario | dpkg cdg |
| 03:02.44 | dpkg | usuario: i don't know |
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| 03:02.53 | Duelist | abrotman: Nautilus's burner functionality isn't as full-featured as k3b |
| 03:02.54 | usuario | dpkg gcd |
| 03:02.54 | dpkg | wish i knew, usuario |
| 03:03.08 | abrotman | Duelist: it has to burn a CD .. so what |
| 03:03.13 | jcarr | Dellen el couche! |
| 03:03.16 | Duelist | no visual indication of how much space is taken up, and (I think) no audio track capability |
| 03:03.19 | usuario | wonder if k3b backends can do karaoke cd's |
| 03:03.23 | Duelist | so in a way, it's not really equivalent |
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| 03:05.38 | abrotman | Duelist: gcdw ? |
| 03:05.40 | abrotman | gcombust? |
| 03:05.53 | Duelist | abrotman: I'm going to look at them now |
| 03:06.18 | abrotman | Duelist: ignore gcdw |
| 03:06.43 | Duelist | ok |
| 03:06.55 | bwlang_ | i'd like to add some permanent search paths to my /etc/resolv.conf... but i'm using resolvconf - anyone know how to do this? |
| 03:06.57 | abrotman | wait .. no |
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| 03:07.00 | abrotman | it has a gtk front end |
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| 03:07.23 | Duelist | ok I'll go back and look at it when I am done looking at gcombust |
| 03:07.41 | abrotman | Duelist: gcdw -g |
| 03:07.48 | jcarr | wow |
| 03:07.53 | poseur | hmm, anyone know how to compile the isec kernel poc exploit. the error is "elflbl.c:430: storage size of `l' isn't known" |
| 03:07.55 | jcarr | gtoaster is crap compared to k3b |
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| 03:08.01 | jcarr | heh.. I think it is crap period |
| 03:08.12 | abrotman | jcarr: gtoaster is old .. try gcdw -g |
| 03:08.18 | valdyn_ | Duelist: resolvconf adds a script to /etc/network/if-up.d/. Modify it, or even better probably, add your own |
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| 03:08.35 | valdyn_ | Duelist: oh sorry |
| 03:08.36 | Duelist | bwlang_: valdyn_'s response was intended for you, not me |
| 03:08.44 | bwlang_ | valdyn_: thanks.. |
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| 03:09.15 | abrotman | jcarr: though . i think arson looks better than k3b |
| 03:09.26 | usuario | X Use Burning Group cdrom in k3b will make burning as it is in root k3b for a normal user in cdrom group? |
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| 03:10.25 | Led_Zeppelin | is uuencode supposed to take a long time??? |
| 03:10.34 | Duelist | Led_Zeppelin: Depends on what you're uuencoding |
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| 03:10.49 | Led_Zeppelin | Duelist, a textfile (sql dump) |
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| 03:10.59 | valdyn_ | usuario: it should, but its not k3b specific |
| 03:11.00 | Led_Zeppelin | Duelist, gonna sent it to my gmail account for backups |
| 03:11.28 | usuario | valdyn_: I see, frontend game again |
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| 03:11.38 | jewbanger | sUSSUDIO MUST FUCKING DIEsUSSUDIO MUST FUCKING DIEsUSSUDIO MUST FUCKING DIE |
| 03:11.38 | jewbanger | HELIX IS ERINN CLARK AND MUST DIE AND LIKES TO FUCK SUSSUDIO IN THE ASS WITH HER STRAP ON |
| 03:11.38 | jewbanger | !FUCK HELIX |
| 03:11.38 | jewbanger | !FUCK DONDELECARO |
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| 03:11.56 | valdyn_ | usuario: a user in group cdrom can use whatever he wants to burn |
| 03:11.56 | gravity | bob2: Thanks |
| 03:11.57 | helix | gosh |
| 03:11.58 | jcarr | I been wastin ghte past hour trying to get fucking gtoaster to "see" my cd drive... |
| 03:12.14 | jcarr | k3b "saw" it automatically and didnt need my help |
| 03:12.30 | simon_ | i'm trying to play wmv files but i cant seem to install divx support - i tried apt-get install avifile-divx-plugin and i get that dependencies are not met and things are uninstallable- is there anyway around this? |
| 03:12.30 | usuario | valdyn_: Understood. That's what I meant. Thank you for the clarifaction. |
| 03:13.06 | Duelist | gcdw isn't too bad I guess |
| 03:13.31 | mwilson | gcdw is very nice |
| 03:13.44 | Duelist | bob2: *!*kawfe_e@* or *jewbanger*!*@* |
| 03:13.53 | bob2 | er, good point |
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| 03:13.59 | Duelist | or both |
| 03:14.14 | FieldySnuts | *!*kaw*@* ? |
| 03:14.24 | quadrata | ban |
| 03:14.30 | FieldySnuts | little hoe keeps getting in |
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| 03:14.47 | FieldySnuts | there you go |
| 03:14.49 | quadrata | helix!! |
| 03:15.19 | jcarr | look kids! It's the Postgres Elephant!! |
| 03:15.27 | helix | quadrata: who are you? |
| 03:15.27 | FieldySnuts | er? |
| 03:15.27 | simon_ | i'm trying to play wmv files but i cant seem to install divx support - i tried apt-get install avifile-divx-plugin and i get that dependencies are not met and things are uninstallable- is there anyway around this? |
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| 03:15.47 | quadrata | helix: I've been here a few times before |
| 03:15.47 | bob2 | simon_: just get mplayer from marillat |
| 03:15.59 | Led_Zeppelin | how can I send attachment email via mailx? |
| 03:16.08 | bob2 | use mutt |
| 03:16.10 | helix | ok |
| 03:16.11 | simon_ | bob2 : what's marillat? |
| 03:16.13 | quadrata | I see on the lists that someone's already volunteered to redesign debian.org's site |
| 03:16.14 | mwilson | Led_Zeppelin: You don't. |
| 03:16.23 | bob2 | simon_: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 03:16.27 | Led_Zeppelin | mwilson, not even with uuencode? |
| 03:16.39 | bob2 | Led_Zeppelin: you'd need mpack, too |
| 03:16.44 | bob2 | it's so much easier to use mutt |
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| 03:16.53 | Led_Zeppelin | bob2, well, this is for a script |
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| 03:17.04 | mwilson | Led_Zeppelin: Use nail. |
| 03:17.05 | helix-is-owned | !FUCK FIELDYSNUTS |
| 03:17.06 | helix-is-owned | !FUCK PHATED |
| 03:17.06 | helix-is-owned | !FUCK MWILSON |
| 03:17.06 | helix-is-owned | !FUCK ARSTECHNICA |
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| 03:17.06 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: try perl? |
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| 03:17.14 | abrotman | wtf |
| 03:17.24 | Led_Zeppelin | lol |
| 03:17.24 | usuario | Has debian dev made an easier Java install method other than this one: http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/DEV/Java+on+Debian yet? |
| 03:17.25 | gravity | Ugh |
| 03:17.30 | gravity | !ops |
| 03:17.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, ops is please use ops <problem> so the ops know why you have summoned them |
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| 03:17.46 | mwilson | usuario: What's so hard about installing a JRE? |
| 03:17.50 | Led_Zeppelin | ban that dude! |
| 03:17.51 | gravity | I think it should be obvious |
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| 03:17.54 | simon_ | bob2: no such file or directory |
| 03:18.02 | bob2 | simon_: in your irc client |
| 03:18.09 | quadrata | helix: last time I was here there were a bunch of attacks on you. what's the deal? |
| 03:18.12 | usuario | mwilson: There is nothing hard. It's just not... fast and automatic : ) |
| 03:18.20 | helix | quadrata: no idea |
| 03:18.20 | valdyn_ | !java-package |
| 03:18.20 | dpkg | well, java-package is the new name for mpkg-j2se... err, I mean j2se-package... DAMN IT, CAN'T THEY PICK A NAME?! Anyway, it lets you build a .deb file from Sun's non-free upstream Java distributions. See "man make-jpkg". Cf. "make-kpkg" (from kernel-package). only in sid currently, but it's a -all package, so it's safe to use it in sarge. |
| 03:18.31 | quadrata | helix: :( |
| 03:18.33 | mwilson | usuario: Is there some reason it should be? |
| 03:18.36 | FieldySnuts | what the hell is a "Hello Kity vibrator" |
| 03:18.38 | hoepen | quick question: does someone know anything about this > http://www.k-otik.com/exploits/20050107.elflbl.c.php < exploid ? |
| 03:18.46 | abrotman | helix: can't you ban anyone that isn't ^helix$ ? |
| 03:18.52 | poseur | hoepen, i'm trying to compile it |
| 03:18.53 | poseur | no luck. |
| 03:18.58 | helix | !forget cmd: fuck (*.?) |
| 03:18.58 | gravity | FieldySnuts: Google it. It's the greatest sex toy ever made |
| 03:18.58 | dpkg | helix: i didn't have anything called 'CMD: fuck (*.?)' |
| 03:19.01 | helix | meh |
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| 03:19.11 | usuario | usuario: Fast and automatic is a convenience. Is there some reason it shouldn't be? |
| 03:19.16 | abrotman | helix: (.*?) |
| 03:19.22 | mwilson | I love how the truly stupid show up in a channel for help on how to be a skript kiddie. |
| 03:19.25 | helix | !forget cmd: fuck (.*?) |
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| 03:19.33 | abrotman | helix: but isn't it too old? |
| 03:19.34 | hoepen | poseur: ok - so i#ll try too... ;) |
| 03:19.40 | helix | yeah |
| 03:19.52 | abrotman | helix: so you can't ban everything but like ^helix$ ? |
| 03:19.52 | poseur | hoepen, if you your compile works, lemme know ;) |
| 03:19.57 | abrotman | or whatever the regexp is :) |
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| 03:20.23 | FieldySnuts | exception bans, not sure if freenode has those. easy way to get into trouble |
| 03:20.25 | quadrata | helix: is it just one person or several? |
| 03:20.31 | helix | quadrata: I don't know |
| 03:20.33 | CleverH | Hallo anybody with experience in PHPMYADMIN and suPHP |
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| 03:20.49 | nvz | helix: you could always use a regex to get the message across you are sick of it |
| 03:20.53 | abrotman | CleverH: #php |
| 03:21.02 | CleverH | thx |
| 03:21.14 | hoepen | poseur: yepp |
| 03:21.17 | helix | yeah, I need a regex for that :P |
| 03:21.20 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 03:21.32 | poseur | was able to compile the isec kernel poc? i tried with gcc-2.95 and 3.3.5 and keep getting: "elflbl.c:430: storage size of `l' isn't known" |
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| 03:21.35 | poseur | + anyone |
| 03:21.45 | poseur | hoepen, could you send the binary please? |
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| 03:22.10 | bob2 | poseur: it only works against 2.4 |
| 03:22.11 | abrotman | helix: you're up to about once a day eh? |
| 03:22.22 | helix | something like that |
| 03:23.38 | abrotman | helix: that's a lot of effort .. this is still the same guy that has your address/etc? |
| 03:23.52 | helix | I guess |
| 03:23.54 | Abnix | any IMAP experts around? |
| 03:24.03 | usuario | Can some shine some reality unto me? It feels like debian dev has picked up a little speed, which would make sense because of the Sarge releasing business they're getting into. |
| 03:24.15 | nvz | heh, it took kawfee all day to come up with that shit? we spotted him on the network like 12hours ago now |
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| 03:25.46 | abrotman | nvz: it's kawfee? |
| 03:25.58 | hoepen | poseur: if i get it working... cot some compiler error |
| 03:26.12 | nvz | abrotman: the helix bangs sussudio with the strap on kinda gives it away |
| 03:26.23 | helix | of course it's kawfee |
| 03:26.31 | nvz | abrotman: not to mention the host |
| 03:26.38 | abrotman | but it was a random IP |
| 03:26.46 | abrotman | well .. |
| 03:26.49 | gravity | What happened with kawfee? Why's he so pissed at everyone these days? |
| 03:26.50 | abrotman | maybe not random .. |
| 03:26.53 | abrotman | !kawfee |
| 03:26.53 | nvz | yeah he seems to be able to haxor his way around |
| 03:26.53 | dpkg | well, kawfee is KAWFEH, or married to Boris, the russian Ebay Bride. A troll; like a bot, but squishier |
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| 03:27.10 | abrotman | nvz: but he sits in here and watches? |
| 03:27.34 | nvz | abrotman: I have suspected for a long time one of a many nicks I suspect to be bots is his keylogger |
| 03:27.54 | abrotman | nvz: well .. i don't see why not |
| 03:28.18 | simon_ | bob2 : thanks - that was very helpful |
| 03:28.21 | hoepen | yepp - same erros on my system @poseur |
| 03:28.28 | helix | gravity: he got permabanned |
| 03:28.40 | nvz | abrotman: his motive is what makes him so predictible and easy to follow |
| 03:28.40 | toresbe | Anyone here know anything about VMS? Particularily, the turnkey VMS system? |
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| 03:29.10 | gravity | helix: Ouch |
| 03:29.20 | toresbe | no, not VMS - MVS* |
| 03:29.25 | helix | gravity: well, it was like a year ago, he should be over it by now :P |
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| 03:29.30 | azreal | VMS sucks |
| 03:29.35 | gravity | hehe |
| 03:29.37 | cmartine | how do you convert wav files to mp3 ... |
| 03:30.03 | bob2 | cmartine: lame |
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| 03:30.11 | cmartine | glame um mean ? |
| 03:30.18 | tercel | nope |
| 03:30.20 | tercel | lame |
| 03:30.35 | cmartine | apt-cache search shows only glame , not lame |
| 03:30.45 | bob2 | yes, lame isn't in Debian |
| 03:30.46 | poseur | hoepen, try: gcc -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -Dmodify_ldt_ldt_s=user_desc elflbl.c -o elflbl |
| 03:30.49 | bob2 | cmartine: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 03:30.57 | bob2 | it's in that apt source |
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| 03:31.07 | nvz | abrotman: beilieve it or not there seems to be an offical militant group raging against us here.. at least thats what they tell me.. heh |
| 03:31.20 | abrotman | nvz: i'm so upset |
| 03:31.21 | fester | where would my sql databases be living by default |
| 03:31.26 | hoepen | poseur: yepp, got it |
| 03:31.34 | abrotman | fester: /var/lib/mysql |
| 03:31.39 | abrotman | well .. for the data |
| 03:32.05 | fester | thanks abrotman |
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| 03:32.52 | azreal | nvz: i can imagine that the is a group of funded individuals that frequent here, causeing random havoc |
| 03:33.02 | abrotman | !iapf |
| 03:33.02 | dpkg | well, iapf is It's All Pete's Fault(http://www.itsallpetesfault.org) |
| 03:33.14 | helix | abrotman: :| |
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| 03:33.26 | abrotman | helix: sorry .. the pete that is modeled after is from canada |
| 03:33.33 | abrotman | helix: as is `pete |
| 03:33.34 | poseur | hoepen: no workie. |
| 03:33.35 | poseur | [+] moved stack bfffe000, task_size=0xc0000000, map_base=0xbf800000 |
| 03:33.36 | poseur | [+] vmalloc area 0xcfc00000 - 0xdf6b1000 |
| 03:33.36 | poseur | Segmentation fault |
| 03:33.36 | *** kick/#debian [poseur!~debhelper@debhelper.user] by debhelper (flood: Consider using #flood) |
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| 03:33.40 | abrotman | nice |
| 03:33.43 | helix | poseur: don't do that |
| 03:33.48 | helix | and ugh, rejoin after kick is evil |
| 03:33.50 | bob2 | it's cute and all that you're trying to root a machine |
| 03:33.56 | bob2 | but you don't need to flood us with it |
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| 03:34.36 | abrotman | helix: how's your php going? |
| 03:34.45 | helix | doing something else for the time being |
| 03:34.46 | helix | thank god |
| 03:34.54 | helix | though now my boss has big plans for wiki use in the office |
| 03:34.55 | abrotman | helix: heh |
| 03:34.55 | bob2 | haha |
| 03:35.01 | gravity | hehe |
| 03:35.02 | walnuck | bob2: i updated local.conf for the xft, do i have to run an update cache or something after? |
| 03:35.06 | abrotman | helix: i hear they make a good php-wiki |
| 03:35.20 | helix | yeah, double the evil, even less sanity |
| 03:35.22 | helix | great! |
| 03:35.26 | dnl | Hm.. are cloop and/or squashfs modules compiled for vanilla debian kernels yet? The squashfs-tools is now an official package. |
| 03:35.32 | yanger | how much power does a PC have to be to run as a gateway/router for 20+ PCs [1/2 of them playing multiplayer games]? |
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| 03:35.41 | cmartine | thanks |
| 03:35.52 | bob2 | yanger: depends on how fat the connection is |
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| 03:36.08 | hoepen | poseur: uff- 100% cpu - - - but strg-c worked |
| 03:36.23 | nvz | azreal: well some just never could participate in a meaningful conversation, and others have been here just about as long as me and just one day snapped, I talked to one such use for a whole hour taking his side, and trying every possible angle to set an example and cool him down, but it seems once they cross the line their ego defense wont allow them to come back |
| 03:36.26 | abrotman | yanger: 486 |
| 03:36.57 | dnl | yanger: well, the switch will be doing the work if the machines are communicating among themselves for a game. |
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| 03:38.18 | azreal | nvz: i honestly think there are people that are paid to sit here and ruin some peoples experience with the community. |
| 03:38.29 | yanger | dnl hmm, and if 10 PCs are connecting to 1 off the network ip? |
| 03:38.35 | FieldySnuts | probably microsoft lackies |
| 03:38.48 | yanger | let's just say.. a 6 player game of tnet and the tnet server is on a different network |
| 03:38.48 | bbhill | !knoppix |
| 03:38.48 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
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| 03:39.15 | dnl | yanger: even an old 486 should be able to route 10mbit ethernet just fine |
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| 03:39.42 | helix | #freenode is totally useless |
| 03:39.45 | hoepen | poseur: got almost the sae values than you, i think i terminated it before segfaut |
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| 03:39.45 | azreal | not even just M$, but people that are makeing money off of some proprietary software that feel there are being imposed upon. |
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| 03:40.52 | azreal | it would be there game to ruin it for the rest of us |
| 03:41.12 | abrotman | why do we have two people trying to root machines talking in here? |
| 03:41.24 | mwilson | Because they're stupid. |
| 03:41.27 | yanger | can a 486 route 10 PCs at high speeds? CPU won't bottleneck like windows? |
| 03:41.56 | abrotman | yanger: more than likely ... how much bandwidth do you think 10 PCs playing games cna use? |
| 03:42.11 | yanger | abrotman, *shrug* |
| 03:42.18 | nvz | azreal: heh, yeah I think about it that way sometimes. I often wonder about corporations with money to burn just throwing wrenches into projects |
| 03:42.20 | bbhill | 100k/s / person maybe |
| 03:42.23 | yanger | i know they won't be using 100% |
| 03:42.25 | bbhill | on a online game |
| 03:42.34 | abrotman | doubt it |
| 03:42.43 | bbhill | maybe more like 60-75. |
| 03:42.46 | abrotman | yanger: how big is the external connection |
| 03:42.53 | dnl | hm.. when unpacking, does dpkg load the entire package into ram? |
| 03:42.58 | yanger | 1.4mbit up/down |
| 03:43.02 | abrotman | you'll be fine |
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| 03:43.10 | abrotman | yanger: how fast is the router? |
| 03:43.52 | yanger | it's a 10/100 mbit switch, and my router (the PC) will be a AMD K6/233MHz with 256mb ram |
| 03:43.57 | yanger | running debian i think |
| 03:44.03 | abrotman | yanger: more than you need .. will work great |
| 03:44.08 | yanger | yay |
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| 03:44.25 | yanger | had issues with windoze as a game proxy router |
| 03:44.31 | abrotman | yanger: i have an alpha(4/233) at work routing a single box .. it can easily saturate our T |
| 03:44.33 | yanger | ugh, i'd have to reboot it after each game |
| 03:44.36 | nvz | azreal: I've just taken a lot away from here, and I try to get people to realize whats in the way of them having the same experience most of us have |
| 03:45.23 | nvz | azreal: but like I said before even if you read the outlined guidelines freenode has every day, its still hard to put into action sometimes |
| 03:45.33 | yanger | hopefully i don't have to reboot the debian box? |
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| 03:46.06 | poseur | hoepen, 2.6? |
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| 03:46.13 | azreal | nvz: yeah |
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| 03:46.24 | abrotman | yanger: if you do .. you've done something wrong |
| 03:46.36 | yanger | :) ok |
| 03:46.39 | hoepen | poseur: 2.6.9 /gcc 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-2) |
| 03:46.56 | nvz | azreal: it kinda depends on us all working together, and being the major differences and the large number of people here, I find it amazing it does as well here as it does |
