| 00:00.02 | fooz | these kids these days and their fancy smart routers |
| 00:00.04 | bob2 | kristoffe: the init 2 thing does not work/matter on Debian |
| 00:00.05 | pipeline | rellik: It's a sick joke. |
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| 00:00.07 | lewis | hey all |
| 00:00.10 | lewis | thomas_adam: you about? |
| 00:00.10 | fooz | with their fancy BGP |
| 00:00.10 | kristoffe | im not using any redhat instructions |
| 00:00.16 | psywar | the linksys uses a really old 4.2BSD stack too |
| 00:00.16 | paulswm | kini: see you, hope you find your channel |
| 00:00.18 | pipeline | SiliconViper: It says "Cisco" on the front, so it's exempt from my snide-asshole rules :P |
| 00:00.21 | psycose | kini well yes it could be ;-) |
| 00:00.26 | mentor | knix: You need to find an IRC network with a channel about your subject... |
| 00:00.29 | SiliconViper | pipeline, Oh, alright then! |
| 00:00.35 | user01 | so ummm is my gateway a gateway and a router? |
| 00:00.37 | mentor | kini: You need to find an IRC network with a channel about your subject... |
| 00:00.40 | pipeline | rellik: I had a Linksys that was (in theory) capable of RIPv1. I never tried it :P |
| 00:00.45 | jon_ | user01, it doesn't matter |
| 00:00.46 | kini | how do i switch channels? |
| 00:00.47 | pipeline | user01: Your gateway is a gateway. |
| 00:00.51 | lewis | i am having problems getting mailbox quotas to work with exim4, can anyone spare a few minutes? |
| 00:00.55 | psywar | kini: /list to list them and /join #channelname |
| 00:01.00 | dondelelcaro | kini: /join #debian-fr; /part #debian |
| 00:01.00 | mentor | kini: You can then go to that network using the X-Chat->Server List Menu item. |
| 00:01.02 | rellik | pipeline, yeah I use mine for switch, NAT only |
| 00:01.11 | mentor | dondelelcaro: French art? |
| 00:01.15 | pipeline | user01: Technically, a gateway is a subcategory of a router. But since being a gateway is the only routing it can do, it's a gateway. |
| 00:01.27 | SiliconViper | lewis, you may have more luck in #exim, but don't let that stop you from seeking help here too. |
| 00:01.31 | dondelelcaro | mentor: damned if I know |
| 00:01.37 | psywar | cable modems are actually bridges, too. |
| 00:01.41 | psywar | also not routers |
| 00:01.43 | psycose | lol |
| 00:01.47 | citral | !support french food |
| 00:01.48 | dpkg | french food is the BEST |
| 00:01.51 | AlexW[2] | Uptime: 1day 12hrs 44mins 23secs |
| 00:01.53 | mentor | kini: You can list channels on the current network using the Window->Channel List menu item... |
| 00:01.54 | AlexW[2] | hrrm |
| 00:01.56 | lewis | SiliconViper: i am about to try in there, though it is usually fairly empty |
| 00:01.57 | citral | c'est vrai. |
| 00:02.05 | rellik | routers are bridges.. just multi-port bridges |
| 00:02.19 | user01 | well...depends on the food |
| 00:02.21 | psywar | rellik: they operate at layer 3, bridges are at layer 2 |
| 00:02.23 | SiliconViper | lewis, ~28 people right now. |
| 00:02.23 | mentor | rellik: Yes, on the network protocol level. |
| 00:02.40 | dondelelcaro | rellik: depends... usually a bridge means that it changes from one physical transport layer to another. |
| 00:03.04 | psywar | they're kind of bastard children though because they have IPs sometimes for maintenance. But they don't have a routing table. |
| 00:03.07 | lewis | SiliconViper: idlers yeh, but not always talking ;) |
| 00:03.18 | paulswm | kini: if you need some help with IRC, here's a good place: http://irchelp.org/ |
| 00:03.38 | mentor | !paulswm++ |
| 00:03.44 | lewis | also, does anyone know a site in the UK where I can get the new Lite-On DVD burner? (SOHW-1673S) - tried dabs, scan, ebuyer (awaiting stock), savastore |
| 00:03.50 | fooz | that's why we have linux, isn't it? linux does all of these things you guys are arguing about. so we don't need to argue about what it is anymore |
| 00:03.51 | paulswm | woohoo, karma :) |
| 00:04.03 | mentor | lewis: Wow...horribly off-topic... |
| 00:04.09 | mentor | lewis: TRy insight? simply? |
| 00:04.13 | Stravinsky | I'm trying to print something with my hp3325, the printer is detected but it doesn't print (usb connection), anyone? |
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| 00:04.16 | bob2 | mentor: but not annoyingly s |
| 00:04.16 | bob2 | o |
| 00:04.34 | mentor | bob2: No :) |
| 00:04.38 | lewis | mentor: thank you - won't mention it again |
| 00:04.45 | jon_ | Does anyone know if pam_ldap still supports the filter option under Sarge? |
| 00:04.46 | mentor | heh |
| 00:04.52 | fooz | stupid cat was sitting under my computer chair and got run over |
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| 00:05.04 | mentor | fooz: Umm, terminally so? |
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| 00:05.13 | thomas_adam | lewis: Yes. |
| 00:05.14 | fooz | nah but he made a funny noise and limped away |
| 00:05.18 | mentor | aww. |
| 00:05.23 | lewis | thomas_adam: long time |
| 00:05.28 | thomas_adam | As always. |
| 00:05.40 | paulswm | fooz: prolly plotting how to get you back |
| 00:05.43 | citral | thomas_adam is teh ghost |
| 00:05.45 | rob0 | fooz: tail or leg? |
| 00:05.48 | fooz | nah. this cat's really really dumb |
| 00:05.50 | fooz | rob0, leg i think |
| 00:05.55 | rellik | anyone know of a good Direct Connect client for linux? |
| 00:06.00 | lewis | thomas_adam: I couldn't remember, do you use exim4? (i don't think you do) |
| 00:06.06 | fooz | rob0, but i'm not sure, it was dark in here at the time |
| 00:06.14 | thomas_adam | lewis: I have done. I prefer qmail. |
| 00:06.26 | citral | rellik: you fool. bittornado, there. |
| 00:06.40 | rob0 | I had a cat who had a tail injury a long time ago ... had it amputated! An artificial Manx. |
| 00:06.43 | lewis | thomas_adam: oh ok, just trying to sort out my mailbox quotas |
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| 00:06.58 | rellik | citral, hmm.. bittorando sounds like a bittorrent program not DC :) |
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| 00:07.08 | FieldySnuts | it is |
| 00:07.09 | citral | my furret was amputed too, the balls. |
| 00:07.12 | FieldySnuts | er. |
| 00:07.20 | fooz | i could throw this cat in a pool surrounded by vacuum cleaners and a couple hours later he would forget anything happened |
| 00:07.20 | psywar | hey I bet kini was a french chixor, and nobody made a move on her |
| 00:07.28 | paulswm | I had a Siamese like that, he was a really affectionate and laid back cat, but dumber than owlshit |
| 00:07.37 | thomas_adam | psywar: It's called having morals. |
| 00:07.40 | psywar | heh |
| 00:07.45 | FieldySnuts | this coming from thomas_adam! |
| 00:07.46 | FieldySnuts | kidding |
| 00:07.47 | citral | psywar: j'ai déjà tout ce qu'il faut à la maison |
| 00:08.06 | drgreen | deja tout? |
| 00:08.07 | thomas_adam | Ou.. c'est dommage, n'est pas? |
| 00:08.33 | citral | non, pas vraiment, that's called hapiness |
| 00:08.42 | paulswm | current siamese is too darn smart for her own good |
| 00:08.50 | fooz | i miss having smart cats |
| 00:08.50 | psywar | siamese are smart cats |
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| 00:09.03 | elnovato | get a white tiger |
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| 00:09.12 | psywar | the big cats eat a lot |
| 00:09.15 | citral | !spell hapiness |
| 00:09.15 | dpkg | possible spellings for hapiness: happiness haziness |
| 00:09.22 | psywar | for a cougar, expect to feed it 5 lbs of meat a day |
| 00:09.24 | paulswm | the big cats eat a lot of people |
| 00:09.27 | elnovato | get a chiguagua |
| 00:09.38 | bucky | just ask segfried and roy |
| 00:09.49 | fooz | yes, cougars and I share a love of steak |
| 00:09.58 | psywar | favorite animal: steak |
| 00:10.02 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 00:10.03 | fooz | hehe |
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| 00:10.12 | FieldySnuts | favorite animal: Phated |
| 00:10.18 | paulswm | heh |
| 00:10.41 | toresbe | What the hell does "RACP" mean? |
| 00:10.49 | FieldySnuts | new one on me |
| 00:10.56 | idnar | !RACP |
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| 00:11.17 | thomas_adam | FieldySnuts: Ha. |
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| 00:11.43 | citral | YOU caN tyPE !racp, dpkg iS CASe INseNSITIve |
| 00:11.45 | fooz | cat came back. first thing he does is sit under my computer chair again... |
| 00:11.56 | paulswm | toresbe: Royal Australasian College of Physicians |
| 00:12.02 | idnar | citral: WHaT'S YouR PoiNT? |
| 00:12.06 | tobehz | fooz: throw it out the window |
| 00:12.07 | toresbe | paulswm: I don't think so |
| 00:12.14 | fooz | nah. he's afraid of the outdoors |
| 00:12.17 | tobehz | :/ |
| 00:12.28 | citral | idnar: I don'T HAVe anY PoinT TONighT |
| 00:12.29 | paulswm | toresbe: it really is, prolly something else as well though |
| 00:12.30 | fooz | and water (it's raining) and noises (there are cars out there) |
| 00:12.35 | toresbe | FieldySnuts: PerfDave mentioned it, and then told me to google it, I did, turning up nothing, come back and the bastard's gone |
| 00:12.42 | FieldySnuts | no clue |
| 00:12.45 | idnar | citral: i See |
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| 00:13.01 | paulswm | toresbe: www.racp.edu.au |
| 00:13.12 | paulswm | heh |
| 00:13.17 | toresbe | paulswm: Well, I know that |
| 00:13.22 | ideafix | any one using bittorrent ? |
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| 00:13.37 | citral | ideafix: yes, why? |
| 00:13.39 | paulswm | toresbe: OK, OK, sorry *sniff* |
| 00:13.43 | drac | Hey, what was name of the manpage where all console ansi colors are listed? |
| 00:13.43 | drgreen | whats the name of that little dock app that monitors the batteries? |
| 00:13.59 | ideafix | citral get me some torrents |
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| 00:14.04 | citral | mmmm, ok, if it's a german one :) |
| 00:14.05 | toresbe | noow, noow, ye hev eh pointm eeh, ceetrel |
| 00:14.09 | bob2 | ideafix: please? |
| 00:14.10 | drgreen | ideafix: www.torrentspy.com |
| 00:14.18 | ideafix | thx |
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| 00:14.27 | citral | ideafix: you must e kidding |
| 00:14.30 | ideafix | i never use please |
| 00:14.41 | bob2 | ideafix: if you solicit warez again, you will be banned, again |
| 00:14.48 | ideafix | kidding ?! |
| 00:14.49 | jon_ | ideafix, you're probably used to never getting anything either |
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| 00:15.14 | ideafix | warez ? |
| 00:15.19 | bob2 | just stop it |
| 00:15.35 | caphuso | or i will... again |
| 00:15.35 | citral | !fgi ideafix how+to+use+bittorrent |
| 00:15.36 | dpkg | ideafix: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=how+to+use+bittorrent |
| 00:15.43 | paulswm | toresbe: oh, I see, it's something to do with sound and codecas |
| 00:15.46 | ideafix | i just wanna get some movies |
| 00:15.46 | paulswm | codecs |
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| 00:15.59 | toresbe | paulswm: Huh? |
| 00:16.04 | paulswm | toresbe: racp |
| 00:16.09 | toresbe | paulswm: no, probably not |
| 00:16.38 | caphuso | damn, i forgot where to get that sucky german open source movie |
| 00:16.39 | dondelelcaro | ideafix: you were warned. Warez and other copyright theft is not on topic for #debian or this network. Kindly go elsewhere. |
| 00:16.53 | fooz | what if he wanted open source movies? |
| 00:17.00 | dondelelcaro | fooz: hahahaha |
| 00:17.14 | thomas_adam | Tux: The Movie? |
| 00:17.19 | gravity | fooz: Don't get dondelelcaro about Free content :-) |
| 00:17.29 | psywar | hey the 2600 movie is free to distribute |
| 00:17.37 | dondelelcaro | sure, but it's not open source. |
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| 00:17.42 | psywar | heh |
| 00:18.06 | psywar | I don't want to know too much about movies, it would ruin them for me |
| 00:18.31 | psywar | If I knew about framing and camera angles and all that stuff I'd be noticing that instead of being mesmerized |
| 00:18.49 | paulswm | the thing about open source movies is that you can modify them, heh |
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| 00:18.59 | Xinukid | nyone using cyrus |
| 00:19.07 | Xinukid | on woody |
| 00:19.08 | Xinukid | '? |
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| 00:19.52 | paulswm | open source Gninderella |
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| 00:20.13 | paulswm | Gno White and the seven Gnorfs |
| 00:20.17 | FieldySnuts | heh |
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| 00:22.14 | jon_ | How do I build a source package? (After downloading it) |
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| 00:23.13 | ColonelPanic | heh |
| 00:23.22 | ColonelPanic | I actually haven't done that in a while. |
| 00:23.26 | ColonelPanic | I don't recall, I'm afriad |
| 00:23.27 | citral | psywar: that's very true, what you said. Most of the magic of the films you found when you were 16, disapear when you are 25 because you have more review |
| 00:23.46 | chruriad | jon_ extract it first. go into the directory and read the INSTALL. if it has a configure file type, "./configure" then "make" |
| 00:24.09 | ColonelPanic | oh. like a tarball then |
| 00:24.14 | jon_ | chruriad, I know how to build software from source, I was hoping to be able to build the dpkg |
| 00:24.26 | jon_ | I've done an apt-get source [package], and then patched it |
| 00:24.36 | citral | jon_: apt-get build-dep <package>; apt-get source <package> --build |
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| 00:25.07 | jjazz | Are there any Debian diagnostics that will tell me about my motherboard? I want to know how much RAM and what type each RAM slot can handle. Even if I could find out the make/model of the board, that would be a help, as it's a pain to open it up. Thanks. |
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| 00:25.47 | Erdos_ | ciaoooooooooooooooo |
| 00:25.49 | Erdos_ | hi |
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| 00:28.13 | jon_ | Aha! Got it - dpkg-buildpackage |
| 00:28.53 | toresbe | Erdos_: LOL PLZ OMG KTHX |
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| 00:29.25 | Erdos_ | toresbe, ? |
| 00:30.34 | citral | jjazz: lspci may help you |
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| 00:31.17 | jjazz | citral: Thanks. I'll look into it. |
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| 00:32.06 | citral | jjazz: but don't exect so much, a screwdriver is you best friend for the job |
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| 00:32.45 | citral | !lart my fucking gateway fucking silly bloody 2000 keyboard |
| 00:33.23 | jjazz | citral: Yes, but I'm lazy. The last time I had to figure out what the board was, I had to google every little bit of text I could find on the board, which was a pain. |
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| 00:33.46 | jjazz | (too bad I lost the paper I wrote the answer on) |
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| 00:34.14 | citral | jjazz: I'm lazy too, but not sooo much that I don't want to open a box to look what's in it. |
| 00:34.16 | tobehz | jjazz: find out who made the board |
| 00:34.26 | tobehz | just look on the board itself |
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| 00:34.50 | dvs | jjazz: And the startup screen doesn't give you a clue? |
| 00:34.55 | jjazz | tobehz: I looked on the board and didn't see anything. Maybe I'm misremembering (this was a couple years ago). |
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| 00:35.07 | kristoffe | could someone please tell me how to log out from the x server? ctrl+alt+backspace, or init 3 isnt working, if i kill the x server it only starts up by it self again |
| 00:35.15 | caphuso | kristoffe: /etc/init.d/yourdm stop |
| 00:35.20 | jjazz | dvs: My startup screen tells me nothing. I don't have one, except for the bios bits. |
| 00:35.42 | jjazz | kristoffe: Are you using xdm, gdm, or something else? |
| 00:36.01 | kristoffe | uhm, x server + kde |
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| 00:36.15 | citral | jjazz: he's speaking about the bios, tell it to do a slow boot, to see the messages better |
| 00:36.19 | jjazz | kristoffe: kdm, perhaps? |
| 00:36.23 | jjazz | citral: I'll try that. |
| 00:36.44 | kristoffe | dunoo what ur talking about, i only know that im using kde 3.3 |
| 00:36.50 | citral | aka disable fast boot or whatever |
| 00:36.59 | kristoffe | and that i need to shut down the x server to install the nvidia driver |
| 00:37.01 | caphuso | kristoffe: do you get a graphical thing that asks for username and password? |
| 00:37.06 | kristoffe | yes |
| 00:37.14 | caphuso | kristoffe: that's a display manager |
| 00:37.14 | corallis | does anyone have any idea why my mozilla browser might be closing randomly whenever i try to go to certian websites? i recently installed a flash plugin which might have something to do with it... |
| 00:37.20 | caphuso | kristoffe: does it look KDE-ish? |
| 00:37.27 | jjazz | kristoffe: do 'ps ax | grep dm' and see what comes up |
| 00:37.30 | kristoffe | hmm no |
| 00:37.40 | citral | corallis: you are on x86? |
| 00:37.53 | corallis | yes |
| 00:37.56 | caphuso | kristoffe: does it look really simple? |
| 00:37.58 | jon_ | Gah! I swear pam_ldap is the worst documented piece of code on earth |
| 00:38.09 | citral | corallis: what flash plugin did you install? |
| 00:38.15 | kristoffe | i can choose to start gnome or kde etc |
| 00:38.22 | jjazz | kristoffe: if you do that, you should see something like /usr/bin/x11/xdm or some such. |
| 00:38.22 | corallis | citral: libflash-mozplugin |
| 00:38.25 | kristoffe | yes simpel, GNOME desktop manager it is |
| 00:38.34 | caphuso | kristoffe: good. run /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 00:38.58 | caphuso | "desktop manager" my ass |
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| 00:39.04 | citral | corallis: I would say remove it, go on a site that has flash, and download the plugin directly inside the rowser |
| 00:39.08 | caphuso | gnome morons... |
| 00:39.13 | citral | browser |
| 00:39.21 | corallis | citral: alright, ill give that a try |
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| 00:39.48 | user01 | is there a program that i could use to access my files when i go on vacation in europe leaving my computer connected on my dsl? |
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| 00:39.54 | RedPenguin | Why should I do, I need to switch my Debian machine to use a static IP from DHCP, but I don't want to mess anything up |
| 00:39.55 | user01 | like an ftp thing... |
| 00:39.58 | citral | user01: ssh |
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| 00:40.01 | corallis | citral: well, i removed it and now the sites are working, that was definitely the problem |
| 00:40.02 | kristoffe | run it? hmm, i get no sutch file or dir |
| 00:40.02 | jjazz | user01: ftpd or proftpd |
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| 00:40.10 | jon_ | user01, scp? rsync? ftp? http? |
| 00:40.19 | Rawplayer | ssh |
| 00:40.21 | citral | corallis: flash is crappy proprietary shit, that's it :) |
| 00:40.23 | dvs | RedPenguin: backup your /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 00:40.34 | corallis | citral: yeah heh |
| 00:40.44 | user01 | i guess there are a few...ssh sounds like it |
| 00:40.48 | jjazz | Rawplayer: Yes, ssh is great if you're using KDE... fish is the easiest thing around. |
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| 00:41.12 | jon_ | jjazz, and also great if you're using Gnome - sftp://user@server/path |
| 00:41.34 | citral | user01: scp to copy remotely your files, ssh to access a shell at distance, that's it |
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| 00:41.47 | jjazz | jon_: Good to know. I chose KDE over gnome on my last box just for fish. |
| 00:42.05 | RedPenguin | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 00:42.05 | ne_ | How can do rm path/*/file*, when bash says: bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long, Is there a "GLOB" command to do glob "PATTERN" | xargs rm ? |
| 00:42.14 | RedPenguin | That is the line used to change it to static? |
| 00:42.23 | user01 | citral: would i have to have a static ip though? |
| 00:42.24 | caphuso | ne_: find ... -print0 | xargs -0 rm |
| 00:42.28 | dvs | RedPenguin: No, that changes it FROM static |
| 00:42.29 | ne_ | caphuso no |
| 00:42.32 | caphuso | ne_: yes |
| 00:42.33 | rafx | vsftpd is nice |
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| 00:42.36 | jjazz | RedPenguin: iface eth0 inet static |
| 00:42.36 | ne_ | caphuso i want GLOB not find |
| 00:42.52 | RedPenguin | dvs, I meant is that the line that I change from my existing file |
| 00:42.55 | caphuso | ne_: what you want and what you can get are two completely different thing |
| 00:42.55 | caphuso | s |
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| 00:43.00 | dvs | RedPenguin: Yes |
| 00:43.07 | citral | user01: you just have to know the IP of the box you want to connect to |
| 00:43.11 | jon_ | user01, it would be easier with a static IP, but you could use dyndns if you don't have one |
| 00:43.15 | abrotman | ne_: ask #bash |
| 00:43.19 | RedPenguin | How do I tell it my static IP now? |
| 00:43.28 | dvs | RedPenguin: man interfaces |
| 00:43.29 | citral | !FAQ RedPenguin |
| 00:43.29 | dpkg | RedPenguin: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 00:43.30 | Xinukid | nyone using cyrus?? |
| 00:43.40 | ne_ | caphuso find wont works with path/*/dir/*/path |
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| 00:43.43 | abrotman | ne_: ask #bash |
| 00:43.46 | ne_ | abrotman ok ok |
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| 00:44.03 | kremlyn | What does 'v' mean on the very left pane in aptitude? |
| 00:44.04 | RRT | how can I use an ftp server within my lan to be visible as the ftp server on my webserver machine? ssh tunnelling? port forward? |
| 00:44.07 | vipersniper | hmm, i try to run xine-ui and i get an error there is no mrl |
| 00:44.17 | jjazz | RRT: port forwarding |
| 00:44.22 | vipersniper | anyone know what the problem is |
| 00:44.22 | mythtv | how can I manually control my Nvidia 6800GT fan within linux? |
| 00:44.31 | RRT | do you know of a good howto? |
| 00:44.40 | jon_ | mythtv, I dunno, how do you do it under Windows? |
| 00:44.40 | RedPenguin | I got how to edit the file, I just need to see if I have to restart the PC, or just reload the interface |
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| 00:44.43 | abrotman | mythtv: #nvidia |
| 00:44.53 | mythtv | theres a few applications, but Expertool is great |
| 00:44.59 | mythtv | thanks abrotman |
| 00:45.00 | abrotman | RRT: that depends on your firewall |
| 00:45.02 | dvs | RedPenguin: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 00:45.24 | user01 | Jon: is there a newbie guide for this sort of thing? from what i read i thought that my gateway was assigning kinda like fake ip addresses... |
| 00:45.40 | user01 | masking it |
| 00:45.51 | RedPenguin | Yes! |
| 00:45.55 | RedPenguin | Sucessfully IP change |
| 00:46.10 | RedPenguin | Now, that they use static, I don't have to worry about IPs constantly changes |
| 00:46.11 | paulswm | !win RedPenguin |
| 00:46.11 | dpkg | Congratulations, RedPenguin! You have won a one way ticket to Cuba! |
| 00:46.12 | dvs | !beer RedPenguin |
| 00:46.16 | jon_ | user01, not that I know of |
| 00:46.24 | user01 | Jon: k ill look |
| 00:46.48 | RedPenguin | DHCP is nice, but if my router loses power, they can lose thier IP to another machine and all go nuts |
| 00:47.33 | drgreen | dpkg -r apt-get |
| 00:47.55 | citral | static ip; netmask 255.255.255.224 and roll |
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| 00:48.31 | RedPenguin | I wonder if this is why |
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| 00:48.52 | Lo_Meinix | Hello! |
| 00:49.04 | RedPenguin | I ran an NFS, on a machine that was set to static, but my router was set to DHCP, could that be why a large file copy, or all out of the blue, the machine eventualyl restarted? |
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| 00:49.28 | RedPenguin | Or evetually froze up or panics |
| 00:49.30 | RedPenguin | *paniced |
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| 00:49.53 | kremlyn | Hmm.. OK this is weird. Aptitude isn't showing me any version numbers for packages, and I can't select them to install |
| 00:50.02 | kremlyn | And all packages have 'v' next to them on the left |
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| 00:50.34 | ne_ | Is there a debian command instead of: perl -e 'print join("\n",glob("../../*/*"))' ? |
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| 00:51.16 | jjazz | RedPenguin: I believe most routers can handle dhcp and static at the same time. Even if yours can't, it wouldn't freeze your machine. You would just have a balky or inoperable net connection. I can't imagine it causing spontaneous reboots. |
| 00:51.19 | caphuso | still find |
| 00:51.31 | Paco | hi...hope everyone is good |
| 00:51.48 | RedPenguin | jjazz, well this is what happened |
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| 00:51.51 | caphuso | cluebies... like the answer would be a different one a few minutes later |
| 00:52.11 | tobehz | SiliconViper: Here? |
| 00:52.17 | SiliconViper | ? |
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| 00:52.38 | RedPenguin | I had a ClarkConnect machine on an older P1 with 96MB and it had Privoxy and Squid on it, and it would be ok for like a week, oh and it had an apache on it, but after a while, it would just freeze up |
| 00:52.39 | tobehz | SiliconViper: I installed all that stuff, but, how do you get the applets going? or the gdesklets, whatever. |
| 00:52.55 | fooz | RedPenguin, it's just a flaky machine. |
| 00:52.59 | RedPenguin | Then on my NFS on another machine, and it would do similar freezing up, and sometimes even a restart |
| 00:53.24 | RedPenguin | When it had FreeBSD, it really restarted |
| 00:53.25 | SiliconViper | In Gnome.... Applications -> Accessories -> gdesklets |
| 00:53.28 | Paco | i am having truobe with ndiswrapper...i apparantly installed the kernel module, but i am following instructions on websites, such as sourceforge, yet i still am getting nowhere. could it be ebcause i am using the testing distribution of debian? |
| 00:53.35 | RedPenguin | Then when I put Gentoo on, it restarted similar, just not as fast |
| 00:53.46 | Xinukid | nyone using cyrus?? |
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| 00:53.58 | citral | Xinukid: stop repeating |
| 00:54.01 | jjazz | RedPenguin: Did you try running a bare bones machine with nothing on it (no GUI, no nothing)? |
| 00:54.07 | Xinukid | ? |
| 00:54.18 | jjazz | RedPenguin: Do that for a few weeks and see if it's stable. If it's not, you've probably got a hardware problem. |
| 00:54.24 | dvs | !tell Xinukid about ask |
| 00:54.34 | Xinukid | how are the 20 new ppl who came in suppsoed to know my question if i dont ask |
| 00:54.34 | RedPenguin | jjaaz well they both had no GUI |
| 00:54.39 | Xinukid | hrm |
| 00:54.52 | citral | Xinukid: ask a question, then |
| 00:54.54 | new2exim_more-re | zinukid > maybe you could say what ur trying to do with cyrus, and someone might be able to help u |
| 00:55.02 | citral | !ur |
| 00:55.03 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 00:55.06 | abrotman | !u |
| 00:55.06 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 00:55.07 | chruriad | Paco i use ndiswrapper and i'm on testing. do you have the windows driver for your card? |
| 00:55.37 | Xinukid | : ok i cannot seem to log in to cyradm on a fresh install of cyrus on debin woody |
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| 00:55.50 | Paco | (chruriad): yes i do...i have it on cd..it is for the lynxis wpc54g wireless modem |
| 00:55.51 | tobehz | SiliconViper: Bleh, gdesklets freezes and closes on me ^.^ |
| 00:55.58 | Xinukid | so i need to know iff someone has actually accomplished hits |
| 00:56.02 | SiliconViper | Ouch, sucks to be you. |
| 00:56.09 | abrotman | !cyrus |
| 00:56.10 | dpkg | [cyrus] the CMU Cyrus mail system. It supports IMAP, POP3, NNTP and many other mail related protocols. It's homepage is at http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/. <greycat> cyrus is like a huge black cube with an eyeball painted on it that says "YOUR MAIL IS SAFE WITH ME, CITIZEN" |
| 00:56.22 | abrotman | isnt there a #cyrus ? |
| 00:56.36 | Lo_Meinix | Does anyone have a copy of the book that was at http://www.polaris.net/~dwarf/ ? When I go there now it is no longer viewable. |
| 00:56.53 | Lo_Meinix | BTW, it's a debian book |
| 00:57.33 | abrotman | Lo_Meinix: what book? |
| 00:57.47 | Lo_Meinix | I forget the name of it. Been a while since I viewed it. |
| 00:57.57 | lunaphyte | hi all |
| 00:58.01 | Lo_Meinix | Debian User's Guide |
| 00:58.01 | Lo_Meinix | Author: Dale Scheetz |
| 00:58.08 | bob2 | isn't it *in* Debian? |
| 00:58.09 | chruriad | Paco: havee you gone to the ndiswrapper website and checked out the list of drivers for your card. download the exe then extract it with unzip. have you done that yet? |
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| 00:58.12 | Paco | (Xinukid): try moving your apt sources file to "testing." |
| 00:58.52 | caphuso | Lo_Meinix: this one? http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/ |
| 00:59.13 | jjazz | Lo_Meinix: google it |
| 00:59.25 | lunaphyte | i'm trying to get logrotate to rotate my bind logs, but having trouble.. |
| 00:59.48 | Lo_Meinix | Yeah, thats it, thanks! |
| 00:59.56 | lunaphyte | i've added a logrotate file for bind in /etc/logrotate.d, but it seems like it ignores it. |
| 00:59.57 | RedPenguin | Linux always amazes me, because I search all over, for how to do things, then like a day later, someone says, oh it is a file in /etc or something |
| 01:00.13 | Xinukid | Paco: i cannot do that |
| 01:00.35 | dvs | RedPenguin: I usually find the item just AS someone is telling me. |
| 01:00.40 | Paco | (chruriad): so, your saying that there is an execution file just for the drivers? i thought i had to use the ndiswrapper command to copy the file. |
| 01:00.49 | RedPenguin | Yeah I know that |
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| 01:00.53 | Xinukid | abrotman: there is a cyrus channel the problem is they dont know jack shit about debian woody and its oldschool ass version of cyrus |
| 01:00.56 | Xinukid | heh |
| 01:01.02 | RedPenguin | But I mean, because I found FreeNode, forums usally help, but you have to wait for a reply |
| 01:01.04 | rellik | on my machine, these two commands should be identical: "mount localhost:/shared test" and "mount r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu:/shared test" but the first works while the second gives this error: "mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused".... the entry in /etc/exports is "/shared *(rw,no_root_squash,async)"... any ideas how to fix this? |
| 01:01.06 | Lo_Meinix | Yeah, linux always amazes me too....I'm amazed that with LOTS of effort I get relatively nowhere. |
| 01:01.09 | citral | Gnu/Linux always amazes me, because when when I look for somethign, it's always where it should |
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| 01:01.41 | Paco | (Xinukid): go to your /etc/apt/ directory, then edit the file with nano or xedit...in the list, just change 'stable' to 'testing.' if i can do it, anyone can, trust me |
| 01:01.42 | dondelelcaro | rellik: you probably have rpc or portmap listening only on localhost |
| 01:01.45 | RedPenguin | FreeNodes support channels are so nice, the best I have ever found |
| 01:01.56 | RedPenguin | Thank god to the good people who created FreeNode |
| 01:01.57 | RedPenguin | ;).\ |
| 01:01.59 | chruriad | Paco: yeah, then you run "ndiswrapper -i module.inf", and it somehow tells the ndiswrapper module how to deal with your hardware |
| 01:02.10 | rellik | dondelelcaro, I made portmap non-local |
| 01:02.26 | dondelelcaro | rellik: what does netstat -plunt; report then? |
| 01:02.37 | abrotman | Xinukid: then use courier? |
| 01:02.39 | bob2 | RedPenguin: there were support channels before OPN existed |
| 01:02.53 | rellik | dondelelcaro, anyway, the two commands I pasted here were both issued from the localhost... and only one worked |
| 01:02.55 | RedPenguin | OPN? |
| 01:02.59 | Paco | chruriad, when you say execute, do u mean the driver for my wireless card, or do u mean the program itself? |
| 01:03.02 | dondelelcaro | rellik: because "mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused" <- this disagres. |
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| 01:03.05 | caphuso | RedPenguin: freenode's old name |
| 01:03.10 | dondelelcaro | rellik: localhost != r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu |
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| 01:03.19 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: are you sure? |
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| 01:03.28 | new2exim_more-re | i didnt need to edit any file to get cyrus installed, just make sure ur sources are updated with apt-get update and apt-get install cyrus-common cyrus-pop3d |
| 01:03.29 | dondelelcaro | rellik: localhost == 127.0.0.1 r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu == something that doesn't exist |
| 01:03.33 | RedPenguin | Oh. |
| 01:03.36 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: you don't know how fucked up his /etc/hosts is ;-) |
| 01:03.39 | abrotman | !ur |
| 01:03.39 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 01:03.51 | RedPenguin | Well, I know, but so far, FreeNode's channels, are the easiest way for me to get support |
| 01:03.53 | abrotman | new2exim_more-re: you're from fucking canada .. you should know better than to type like a moron |
| 01:03.55 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: well, the fact that it's working for one and not for the other clues me in slightly... ;-) |
| 01:03.56 | rellik | dondelelcaro, in hosts 127.0.0.1 is aliased to r01pts... |
| 01:04.12 | new2exim_more-re | excuse me? |
| 01:04.15 | dondelelcaro | rellik: what does ping r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu; return? |
| 01:04.24 | abrotman | no excuse |
| 01:04.30 | chruriad | Paco: the program that comes with ndiswrapper-utils. modulename.inf is inside the WirelessDriver.exe |
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| 01:04.52 | new2exim_more-re | abrotman > what the hell are u talking about |
| 01:04.53 | rellik | dondelelcaro, success |
| 01:05.01 | dondelelcaro | rellik: uh, yes, but what address is it pinging? |
| 01:05.03 | abrotman | new2exim_more-re: /msg dpkg u |
| 01:05.10 | citral | new2exim_more-re: there is no such "u" or "ur" |
| 01:05.17 | rellik | on my machine, these two commands should be identical: "mount localhost:/shared test" and "mount r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu:/shared test" but the first works while the second gives this error: "mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused".... the entry in /etc/exports is "/shared *(rw,no_root_squash,async)"... any ideas how to fix this? |
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| 01:05.22 | rellik | 131.151.181.54 |
| 01:05.26 | dondelelcaro | rellik: there you go. |
| 01:05.30 | new2exim_more-re | ohhhhhkaaaayy |
| 01:05.33 | rellik | dondelelcaro, ? |
| 01:05.36 | abrotman | !tell new2exim_more-re about wud |
| 01:05.37 | dondelelcaro | rellik: r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu == 131.151.181.54, not 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:05.46 | Paco | (chruriad): is there a way to find out if i even have the program installed properly in the first place? |
| 01:06.08 | dondelelcaro | rellik: so either have portmap, rpc.statd, and whatever else listening on r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu, or connect to localhost. |
| 01:06.11 | dvs | Paco: dpkg -l <package name> |
| 01:06.16 | rellik | dondelelcaro, ahso... r01ptsmf8 is 127.0.0.1, not r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu :) |
| 01:06.51 | dondelelcaro | rellik: if ping ro1ptsmf8; returns 127.0.0.1; then you can mount r01ptsmf8:/shared test; |
| 01:06.53 | Paco | it says command not found |
| 01:06.54 | chruriad | Paco: as root see if you can run "ndiswrapper". |
| 01:06.56 | dondelelcaro | s/returns/pings/ |
| 01:06.57 | CoolPops | Inorder to get my sound card to work I have to modprobe gameport then insmod cmpci (modprobe cmpci does not cause it to work). Is there any way I can have this happen on boot? |
| 01:07.23 | Paco | (chruriad): in both cass, it says command not found |
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| 01:08.05 | dondelelcaro | rellik: course, that means that you really should have 127.0.0.1 r01ptsmf8 r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu; in your /etc/hosts as well. (That's pretty insane, though... since having your hostname resolve to one thing via dns and another thing via /etc/hosts will cause you no end of insanity) |
| 01:08.10 | citral | CoolPops: gameport has nothing to do with sound card, but you can put the modules names in /etc/modules |
| 01:08.22 | tobehz | Anybody running unstable w/ gdesklets working? |
| 01:08.30 | rellik | dondelelcaro, 'netstat -plunt' shows entries for portmap, rpc.statd, and rpc.mountd (amount others)... what else do I need? |
| 01:08.35 | citral | !polls |
| 01:08.35 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 01:08.45 | dondelelcaro | rellik: you need them to listen on 0.0.0.0, not 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:09.04 | rellik | dondelelcaro, rpc or portmap? (how?) |
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| 01:09.05 | tobehz | citral: I'd ask, but then I'm sure you'd pull up a fucking factoid on unstable being unstable for a reason. |
| 01:09.07 | new2exim_more-re | dpkg is real smart |
| 01:09.07 | dpkg | new2exim_more-re: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 01:09.11 | chruriad | Paco: then you'll have to install it. apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils |
| 01:09.18 | citral | tobehz: could be :) |
| 01:09.18 | dondelelcaro | rellik: edit /etc/default/portmap |
| 01:09.34 | vulture | tobehz: I'd refer you to BTS instead. |
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| 01:09.50 | Stravinsky | while doing dpkg -l i noticed some that some packages that i already removed or that have been upgraded have 'rc' in the first column, is there any way to remove it? |
| 01:09.56 | vulture | tobehz: if there are known problems with it, then they'll be in the BTS, if they aren't then you are probably on your own for a good reason :) |
| 01:10.01 | caphuso | Stravinsky: dpkg -P |
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| 01:11.54 | Paco | (chruriad): cool..i was doing the apt-get install ndiswrapper....i wasnt typing in the word 'utils.' Why does the word utils have to be there? |
| 01:12.04 | Stravinsky | caphuso: thanks |
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| 01:12.29 | _sandman_ | Hi |
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| 01:12.40 | _sandman_ | How do i create a certified? (for ipsec connection) |
| 01:12.46 | rellik | dondelelcaro, put "-i 0.0.0.0" in /etc/default/portmap, restarted portmap, nfs-kernel-server.. still no luck :( ... anything else that would block RPC? |
| 01:12.52 | chruriad | Paco: one package has the source of the kernel module, the other a utility to handle the module, IMO |
| 01:12.56 | dondelelcaro | rellik: no, not -i, uncomment that line. |
| 01:13.00 | dvs | _sandman_: A certified what? |
| 01:13.00 | dondelelcaro | s/uncomment/comment/ |
| 01:13.11 | rellik | dondelelcaro, yeah, tried that first... no luck :( |
| 01:13.12 | tobehz | Ohh, can't run gDesklets as superuser, no wonder -_- |
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| 01:13.30 | rellik | dondelelcaro, you mean comment out, not "uncomment" ? |
| 01:13.31 | citral | Stravinsky: dpkg -l | grep ^rc | xargs dpkg -P (be carefull) |
| 01:13.37 | dondelelcaro | rellik: yes. |
| 01:13.45 | rellik | dondelelcaro, ok, yeah, tried that |
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| 01:14.03 | dondelelcaro | rellik: then stop portmap and the nfs server, and restart them. |
| 01:14.11 | caphuso | citral: that doesn't even remotely work |
| 01:14.25 | citral | caphuso: that works as root for me |
| 01:14.37 | Guerin | citral: no, it doesn't |
| 01:14.39 | caphuso | citral: you need to extract the second column |
| 01:14.42 | dondelelcaro | rellik: they should then be bound to 0.0.0.0:111, and you should be able to telnet r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu 111; |
| 01:14.50 | dondelelcaro | rellik: if you can't, you don't have portmap listening on the right port. |
| 01:15.02 | kremlyn | Why the hell is php4-gd2 a virtual package? It's one greater than php4-gd which is a normal package, and the two conflict |
| 01:15.07 | _sandman_ | dvs a certifyd ? |
| 01:15.24 | CoolPops | citral: if I don't modprobe gameport first, insmod cmpci comes up with undefined references. |
| 01:15.27 | caphuso | citral: it also cuts off long package names longer than 15 chars or so |
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| 01:15.50 | _sandman_ | dvs i created a vpn and now i need a certifyd to connect to it... how do i create this certifyd? |
| 01:16.00 | CoolPops | citral: also, cmpci does not work if I just use modprobe, I have to use insmod. If I use modprobe, all applications will say /dev/dsp does not exist. If I use insmod apps have no problem. |
| 01:16.12 | Guerin | !insmod |
| 01:16.12 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 01:16.19 | dvs | _sandman_: I have no idea what you are talking about. |
| 01:16.23 | citral | CoolPops: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 01:16.38 | caphuso | cmcpi is an OSS module |
| 01:16.39 | citral | will give you /dev/dsp hopefully |
| 01:16.46 | _sandman_ | ahhaha dvs my english sux.. it is hard to explain |
| 01:16.47 | CoolPops | citral: ok, I'll try that, thanks. |
| 01:17.06 | citral | CoolPops: assuming you're using alsa |
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| 01:17.26 | citral | which is a lot assuming |
| 01:17.42 | Guerin | well, no |
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| 01:18.04 | Guerin | since cmpci is an oss module |
| 01:18.10 | rellik | dondelelcaro, how do I change who portmap will listen to? (already emptied /etc/default/portmap) 'telnet localhost 111' opens a connection, but 'telnet r01ptsmf8 111' gives connection refused |
| 01:18.17 | Guerin | he should be modprobing snd-cmipci |
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| 01:18.32 | CoolPops | Guerin: the response from dpkg was funny. When I modprobe is when I get the undefined dependency errors, insmod works great :-) (2.4 kernel though). Anyway, I'm gonna try what citral has suggested. Thanks! |
| 01:18.41 | Guerin | citral: who put crack in your cornflakes this morning? |
| 01:18.46 | kristoffe | what was that command, glxgear or something, to test fps |
| 01:19.03 | _sandman_ | dvs i wanna connect with a windows client to my linux vpn |
| 01:19.05 | citral | Guerin: my girl's mother |
| 01:19.05 | Guerin | CoolPops: unless you've installed alsa modules, you won't have snd-pcm-oss in a 2.4 kernel |
| 01:19.14 | uGexe | anyone know where i can get the a package or even a source of the intel high defition audio driver? |
| 01:19.19 | dvs | kristoffe: glxgears |
| 01:19.20 | CoolPops | Guerin: I did not install anything additional. |
| 01:19.33 | Guerin | CoolPops: then what citral told you is a woft. |
| 01:19.38 | _sandman_ | dvs but i need this certifyd, i just dont know if it is the correct word to explain what i need to create ahuhua |
| 01:19.48 | citral | indeed |
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| 01:20.03 | CoolPops | Guerin: and I can't seem to get 2.6 to work on my machine (debian unstable). Always comes up can't open /dev/console ... kernel panic. |
| 01:20.18 | Guerin | CoolPops: homebuilt, or debian kernels? |
| 01:20.21 | dvs | _sandman_: Sorry, I don't know what a "certifyd" is. |
| 01:20.21 | lapdog | I have two pc's I am trying to network. I have set up route...but I get No route to host,error. Any help |
| 01:20.25 | bob2 | http://www.firsttvdrama.com/funstuff/voyagen.html |
| 01:20.40 | CoolPops | Guerin: debian kernels, dselect installed. |
| 01:20.58 | Guerin | CoolPops: funky. funky. Did you file bugs? |
| 01:21.05 | Xinukid | how do i show all installed packages on debian? |
| 01:21.10 | tobehz | I seem to be unable to play any audio when under a non-superuser login. I've added the user in question to the audio group, and I'm using Gnome for both users, no artsd or anything. What might be causing this? (I'm testing sound using XMMS) |
| 01:21.11 | abrotman | dpkg -l |
| 01:21.12 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, abrotman |
| 01:21.25 | CoolPops | I asked a few questions about it here and everyone (well, a few) said they just plain don't work, don't bother with them, so I didn't. |
| 01:21.32 | dvs | Xinukid: dpkg --get-selections |
| 01:21.43 | _sandman_ | dvs i will find the correct word... wait a minute :) |
| 01:21.44 | citral | bob2: pls, help! pls, where is the "reload" burron? |
| 01:21.46 | CoolPops | Guerin: I couldn't find anyone who was running 2.6. |
| 01:21.47 | abrotman | CoolPops: new install? |
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| 01:22.02 | abrotman | CoolPops: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-#86 ? |
| 01:22.07 | CoolPops | abrotman: about 1 month old, but I started trying to make it work about 1 week after installing Debian. |
| 01:22.20 | abrotman | CoolPops: it doesn't boot at all? |
| 01:22.44 | Guerin | hrm, 2.6 kernels DO work |
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| 01:22.48 | CoolPops | abrotman: 2.6.10-4 is the current one installed that fails on boot (can't open /dev/console --- kernel panic) |
| 01:22.58 | abrotman | that's in sarge? |
| 01:23.01 | abrotman | or sid? |
| 01:23.09 | abrotman | and what version of initrd-tools? |
| 01:23.12 | CoolPops | abrotman: hm. I forget the codename, it's unstable. |
| 01:23.16 | fooz | CoolPops, you need to fix your /dev |
| 01:23.20 | Guerin | since 2.6.10 isn't in sarge... |
| 01:23.27 | abrotman | Guerin: i was just chekcing |
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| 01:23.35 | CoolPops | abrotman: 0.1.77 (dselect says) |
| 01:23.47 | abrotman | dpkg: info initrd-tools sid |
| 01:23.50 | CoolPops | fooz: how? |
| 01:23.50 | fooz | i'm surprised everyone doesn't run 2.6 yet |
| 01:23.51 | dpkg | initrd-tools: (tools to create initrd image for prepackaged Linux kernel), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.1.77 (sid), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 01:23.53 | _sandman_ | dvs the correct word is certificate |
| 01:23.57 | fooz | CoolPops, cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV std |
| 01:23.57 | abrotman | fooz: it breaks a lot |
| 01:23.59 | fooz | CoolPops, should do it |
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| 01:24.06 | fooz | abrotman, hmm, in what ways? |
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| 01:24.24 | _sandman_ | dvs i need a certificate to connect to my linux vpn using a windows xp |
| 01:24.33 | abrotman | fooz: stay here and watch .. i'm fine with it mostly .. but people get weird stuff going on |
| 01:24.38 | fooz | for me it's been way more solid |
| 01:24.38 | rafx | i'd like to set /etc/apt.conf once and forget about it. is it ok to set APT::Default-Release to "sarge"? or are we reaquired to use "stable", "testing", and "unstable" only? |
| 01:24.39 | citral | or he's facing some udev crap |
| 01:24.40 | _sandman_ | dvs how do i create it? |
| 01:24.47 | CoolPops | abrotman: MAKEDEV does or 2.6? |
| 01:24.59 | fooz | CoolPops, ? |
| 01:25.06 | citral | CoolPops: are you using udev? |
| 01:25.16 | dvs | _sandman_: I'm not sure |
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| 01:25.23 | CoolPops | fooz: does MAKEDEV break my system or kernel 2.6 is what I was asking. |
| 01:25.25 | fooz | abrotman, but i use my computers for all kinds of funky shit.. weird hardware and drivers.. |
| 01:25.35 | fooz | CoolPops, neither. you broke it (by not having a valid /dev/console) apparently |
| 01:25.35 | _sandman_ | dvs ok |
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| 01:25.40 | chealer | 2.6 saves me from spurious interrupts |
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| 01:25.44 | abrotman | fooz: i'm ok with it |
| 01:25.45 | CoolPops | citral: I don't know how to tell. I'm new to debian. |
| 01:25.51 | fooz | CoolPops, MAKEDEV will create /dev/console and then 2.6 should boot |
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| 01:26.00 | dvs | CoolPops: Do you have a /.dev directory? |
| 01:26.01 | _sandman_ | does anybody knows how to create a certificate to connect to my ipsec vpn ? |
| 01:26.01 | CoolPops | fooz: I didn't do a thing to /dev. My system runs great on 2.4 kernels. |
| 01:26.08 | fooz | CoolPops, unless you've got a broken initrd or devfs |
| 01:26.09 | sky0 | Can anyone tell which package replaced 'debmake'? Can't figure out which debhelper script creates the 'debian' directory and control... files. |
| 01:26.09 | citral | CoolPops: whereis udev |
| 01:26.27 | CoolPops | citral: udev: /sbin/udev /etc/udev /usr/share/man/man8/udev.8.gz |
| 01:26.37 | CoolPops | dvs: yes, it's empty. |
| 01:26.37 | cafuego | Now all I need is for udev to start *before* loop tried to mount 18 disk images. |
| 01:26.39 | fooz | 2.6 is the bomb |
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| 01:26.55 | fooz | CoolPops, you should disable udev unless you know how to use it.. however.. it's probably not causing your problem |
| 01:27.08 | abrotman | fooz: gnome requires it |
| 01:27.12 | citral | it's probably causing it |
| 01:27.13 | fooz | abrotman, it does? weird |
| 01:27.20 | fooz | citral, nope. this is a boot problem. |
| 01:27.22 | abrotman | !depends gnome-volume-manager |
| 01:27.24 | fooz | citral, user error's causing it |
| 01:27.24 | dpkg | gnome-volume-manager: depends on dbus-1 (>= 0.22), dbus-glib-1 (>= 0.22), libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.7.2), libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.8.0), libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.5.4), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libgconf2-4 (>= 2.8.1), libglade2-0 (>= 1:2.3.6), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.4.7), libgnome2-0 (>= 2.8.0), libgnomecanvas2-0 (>= 2.6.0), libgnomeui-0 (>= 2.8.0), libgnomevfs2-0 (>= 2.8.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.4), libhal0 (>= 0.2.93), libice6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), liborbit2 (>= 1:2 |
| 01:27.24 | dpkg | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.28 | cafuego | Gnome requires udev? |
| 01:27.33 | abrotman | ok .. maybe it's dbus |
| 01:27.35 | abrotman | cafuego: yes .. |
| 01:27.36 | fooz | heh |
| 01:27.38 | citral | sucks to be gnome |
| 01:27.42 | cafuego | abrotman: Not here it doesn't. |
| 01:27.44 | abrotman | !depends dbus-1 |
| 01:27.46 | dpkg | dbus-1: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), adduser, debianutils (>= 1.22.0) |
| 01:27.49 | fooz | citral, udev is tight. yo don't know what you're talking about |
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| 01:27.53 | fooz | hehe |
| 01:27.56 | abrotman | cafuego: if you install the gnome metapackage .. udev gets installed |
| 01:27.58 | fooz | CoolPops, ok. can you boot 2.4? |
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| 01:28.15 | citral | fooz: I'm too tired to troll |
| 01:28.21 | CoolPops | fooz: yeah, I've been using my system and have been happy for about 1 month. Just 2.6 won't work. |
| 01:28.26 | cafuego | abrotman: You can just remove it again, though. |
| 01:28.29 | cafuego | abrotman: Runs fine. |
| 01:28.35 | CoolPops | fooz: never had a problem with 2.4 on my machine. |
| 01:28.37 | fooz | CoolPops, ok. i need you to mount your root FS somewhere besides root (ie mount it twice, on /mnt) |
| 01:28.49 | abrotman | cafuego: sure you can . i'm just pointing out that the gnome metapackage installs udev |
| 01:28.58 | CoolPops | fooz: ok. |
| 01:29.08 | fooz | CoolPops, or try anyway, i don't remember if 2.4 supported that |
| 01:29.14 | CoolPops | fooz: (btw... /dev/console exists) |
| 01:29.22 | CoolPops | fooz: it mounted fine. |
| 01:29.26 | fooz | CoolPops, yeah but it might be from udev |
| 01:29.33 | fooz | CoolPops, see if /mnt/dev/console exists |
| 01:29.47 | CoolPops | fooz: yes, it does exist. |
| 01:29.51 | fooz | hmm |
| 01:29.51 | citral | ut it's created dynamically by udev, AFTER console are mounted proably |
| 01:30.00 | cafuego | Using initrd? |
| 01:30.06 | fooz | CoolPops, you probably have a bad initrd then |
| 01:30.13 | citral | bah |
| 01:30.13 | fooz | CoolPops, you can umount /mnt then |
| 01:30.28 | fooz | citral, udev CANNOT cause a kernel panic on boot |
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| 01:30.37 | abrotman | i bet it could :) |
| 01:30.38 | CoolPops | fooz: I've uninstalled 2.6, and totally reinstalled before, would'nt that get my initrd too? |
| 01:30.45 | citral | fooz: haw much do you want to bet? |
| 01:30.46 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:30.53 | abrotman | CoolPops: sadly .. what's your bootloader? |
| 01:30.56 | fooz | CoolPops, i have no idea, it depends if you reinstalled an initrd |
| 01:30.57 | KD6PAG | I wouldn't be surprised, either. |
| 01:31.02 | CoolPops | abrotman: grub. |
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| 01:31.14 | orfeu | how i can setup the window manager ( gnome,kde, fluxbox ) for X ??? |
| 01:31.18 | CoolPops | fooz: I'll try to uninstall all 2.6 stuff and do a reinstall. |
| 01:31.22 | fooz | CoolPops, no |
| 01:31.23 | cafuego | citral: If a userspace daemon causes a kernel oops, the problem is the *kernel*. |
| 01:31.31 | fooz | CoolPops, you said you already tried that and it didn't work. why not just try to fix the problem? |
| 01:31.32 | dvs | orfeu: Which one do you want? |
| 01:31.33 | abrotman | orfeu: apt-get install fluxbox gnome kde x-window-system |
| 01:31.41 | Paco | (chruriad): i am able to unzip the file, and the driver is available, but when i used the command 'ndiswrapper -i," it said "directory ignored." |
| 01:32.01 | orfeu | i just whant to understand how X start kde, fluxbox or gnome |
| 01:32.05 | CoolPops | fooz: because I don't know what the problem is and I was hoping maybe I missed initrd, or maybe a new 2.6 kernel or initrd is out that will fix things :-) |
| 01:32.17 | chruriad | Paco: did you find the *.inf file? |
| 01:32.20 | fooz | CoolPops, the problem is in your configuration somewhere. you either misconfigured the kernel or have a faulty initrd |
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| 01:32.22 | CoolPops | fooz: it's been about 1 week since I have tried a reinstall... |
| 01:32.23 | citral | cafuego: I tried udev, I had kernel oops. If that's the kernel fault, well... |
| 01:32.33 | fooz | i don't know why distros like redhat and debian are obsessed with initrds; they're usually not needed |
| 01:32.40 | fooz | and they complicate things |
| 01:32.45 | CoolPops | fooz: I didn't do anything to my kernel. I let dselect do everything. It adds grub settings and all. |
| 01:32.59 | cafuego | citral: The only way a userspace app should cause a kernel to oops is by writing to /proc/sys/kernel/panic |
| 01:33.13 | fooz | CoolPops, debian packaged kernels sometimes come with an initrd. you need to read your GRUB config and see if it references one |
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| 01:33.31 | dondelelcaro | fooz: Debian at least isn't obsessed. When they're necessary, you need the stupid things. If you build your own kernel, you typically could care less. |
| 01:33.44 | Paco | (chruriad): yes i did NOW...it looks like it instaleld the driver...so, now what? |
| 01:33.48 | citral | cafuego: what is if /dev/console, /dev/hd* or whatever is not there at the right time? |
| 01:33.50 | CoolPops | fooz: yes it does: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-1-686 |
| 01:34.16 | dvs | CoolPops: Is it in your /boot/grub/menu.list file? |
| 01:34.25 | tobehz | I seem to be unable to play any audio when under a non-superuser login. I've added the user in question to the audio group, and I'm using Gnome for both users, no artsd or anything. What might be causing this? (I'm testing sound using XMMS) |
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| 01:34.28 | CoolPops | dvs: yes, that's where I got that line frome |
| 01:34.29 | chruriad | Paco: do a "ndiswrapper -m" then do a "iwlist wlan0 scan" to see if it found your network. |
| 01:34.42 | dvs | CoolPops: OK |
| 01:34.47 | fooz | CoolPops, ok.. hrm. do you have a root= line for your 2.6 kernel, and is it correct? |
| 01:34.53 | cafuego | citral: You implying udev should run off the root fs before the root fs is mounted? |
| 01:35.12 | fooz | citral, udev CANNOT cause the /dev/console panic on boot, or any other panic that happens BEFORE init runs |
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| 01:35.22 | fooz | citral, udev's just a collection of tools called from hotplug, and nothing more |
| 01:35.29 | CoolPops | fooz: yes, it's correct... also the same as my 2.4 kernel that works fine. |
| 01:35.41 | Paco | (chruriad): it cant find the command for iwlist |
| 01:35.49 | fooz | CoolPops, you may have to run some command to rebuild the initrd with the correct modules you need to boot.. i have no idea.. |
| 01:36.01 | fooz | CoolPops, what i'd suggest is that you just build your own 2.6 kernel. it would probably fix the problems you're having |
| 01:36.04 | Paco | (chruriad): is that a debian package to install? |
| 01:36.06 | chruriad | Paco: its in the package wireless-tools |
| 01:36.30 | CoolPops | fooz: ok. Anything special that needs to go into a debian kernel? |
| 01:36.44 | fooz | CoolPops, nah. ever build a 2.4 manually with make menuconfig and all? |
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| 01:37.04 | fooz | CoolPops, it's the same for 2.6. just read all the help for each option. and make sure you don't build anything you need to BOOT as a module |
| 01:37.07 | CoolPops | fooz: I've been building kernels since 0.92 :-) |
| 01:37.13 | fooz | CoolPops, good, then you'll have no problem |
| 01:37.24 | Paco | chruriad:it says "wlan0 Interface doesnt support scanning" |
| 01:37.28 | fooz | CoolPops, you can enable initrd support, just don't use the debian packaged initrd with your manually built kernel |
| 01:37.32 | citral | well if you say so... I don't have so much idea about the whole init process. I only know I had kernel panics when I tried udev, removing it let a fast empty /dev/ --> rescue CD |
| 01:37.41 | chruriad | try "iwconfig wlan0 scan" |
| 01:37.46 | KD6PAG | Not all wireless cards support scanning. |
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| 01:37.56 | CoolPops | fooz: why would I want initrd? I have never built a kernel with it. |
| 01:38.19 | Guerin | if you don't need it, don't build it |
| 01:38.21 | AlexW[2] | KD6PAG: u sure?" |
| 01:38.26 | CoolPops | Guerin: ok. |
| 01:38.32 | Guerin | initrds cause more ptoblems than they solve in almost all cases |
| 01:38.45 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:38.45 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:38.54 | fooz | citral, might've been an early build of udev. the udev init script won't allow udev to mess with your original /dev unless a tmpfs is mounted firmly in place of it |
| 01:39.00 | debian | KD6PAG: omg, what wireless card doesn't support scanning? I must avoid it |
| 01:39.09 | fooz | citral, it'll even warn you if (due to user error) you already trashed your original /dev by invoking udev directly |
| 01:39.12 | debian | !win abrotman |
| 01:39.12 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 01:39.13 | fooz | heh |
| 01:39.30 | fooz | CoolPops, I use an initrd, but it's 100% manually assembled by me :) |
| 01:39.36 | Paco | (debian): it is linksys wpc 54g |
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| 01:39.51 | xerxes1358 | Hello |
| 01:39.52 | citral | fooz: was about one year and a half, but later checking the bts didn't inspire me to try again |
| 01:39.55 | fooz | and i wouldn't trust things any other way |
| 01:39.58 | xerxes1358 | Does anyone knows how I can kill nohup processes permanently ? |
| 01:40.04 | abrotman | kill |
| 01:40.05 | fooz | citral, suit yourself -- it's optional |
| 01:40.06 | abrotman | man kill |
| 01:40.17 | Eagle101 | ****Everyone is invited to come to my wedding this weekend ;) |
| 01:40.19 | nsillik | kill -9 |
| 01:40.22 | xerxes1358 | I dont see the nohup process, but if I kill other processes (i started a while ago with nohup) they just come back again |
| 01:40.27 | nsillik | but that's only for big men |
| 01:40.36 | abrotman | !everyone |
| 01:40.37 | uGexe | i am doing apt-get install alsa-source.. is this actually installing something or just putting the source somewhere |
| 01:40.43 | fooz | citral, i think it's very neat. you can do tricks like give a USB device a special name based on its serial number, or the output of a shell script |
| 01:40.43 | citral | Eagle101: be carreful, we could take it for a word :) |
| 01:40.57 | Eagle101 | citral: lol jk |
| 01:40.57 | chruriad | Paco: do a "dhclient wlan0" and see if the internet works. you might have to use iwconfig to set the ESSID, router key, and so forth. |
| 01:40.58 | AlexW | ls |
| 01:41.00 | KD6PAG | Cards which fake out Ethernet interfaces; one reason i went to the new 'zd1201' driver for my Gigafast USB dongle. |
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| 01:41.09 | xerxes1358 | no one that can advise ? |
| 01:41.16 | fooz | citral, you could have 8 identical USB devices that before udev you couldn't tell apart, or give device names to deterministically. now you can |
| 01:41.19 | abrotman | xerxes1358: ps aux |
| 01:41.24 | abrotman | ps -u username |
| 01:41.30 | abrotman | kill -9 pid |
| 01:41.53 | citral | fooz: that's the idea, yes. Now I'm waiting that it besomes safe. |
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| 01:42.00 | fooz | citral, hehe |
| 01:42.03 | fooz | citral, works here so far :) |
| 01:42.15 | xerxes1358 | I dont see the nohup process ! at all |
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| 01:42.17 | fooz | citral, in a few months when I reboot on a whim, I'll tell you if it's still working :) |
| 01:42.21 | Yellowshark | hi all |
| 01:42.22 | nirz | hellom i'm using XFCE but i dont want to remove all gnone apps ... can i remove only the core gnome packages ? |
| 01:42.26 | abrotman | why doesn't McDs serve egg mcmuffins all day |
| 01:42.28 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:42.34 | xerxes1358 | nihup itself Is dead already I think but its process keep coming back .. like ghosts |
| 01:42.38 | abrotman | xerxes1358: it's there .. o rit finished |
| 01:43.15 | Yellowshark | has anyone been able to install sarge on amd64 with a sk98lin (on boar) network card? |
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| 01:43.21 | citral | like greycat pointed out, unstable beta linux software is slowly messing the whole thing up |
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| 01:43.23 | cafuego | WOW! |
| 01:43.24 | abrotman | Yellowshark: amd64 installer? |
| 01:43.24 | steve | hi all |
| 01:43.25 | Yellowshark | (on bard) |
| 01:43.29 | steve | I've just compiled a 2.4.29 kernel and booted into it, but it hangs saying "Warning: unable to open an initial console" - what does that mean? |
| 01:43.34 | Yellowshark | abrotman: yes |
| 01:43.37 | xerxes1358 | abrotman, what do you mean ? o rit ? |
| 01:43.37 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 01:43.37 | dpkg | it has been said that amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1) |
| 01:43.39 | abrotman | go there |
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| 01:43.48 | abrotman | xerxes1358: s/o rit/or it. |
| 01:43.52 | abrotman | bah .. you know what i mean |
| 01:43.56 | Yellowshark | thanks! |
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| 01:44.12 | xerxes1358 | abrotman, no I dont |
| 01:44.13 | fooz | the userland of linux distros are going all to hell, but the kernel keeps getting better and better :) |
| 01:44.13 | nirz | and how i can remove all KDE packages from my Debian ? |
| 01:44.27 | abrotman | xerxes1358: ps aux ... do you see it? . if you don't .. it's done |
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| 01:44.35 | KD6PAG | On the other hand, when i started working in the commercial sector, i discovered that the unstable branch of Debian Linux is vastly more reliable than Windows NT... |
| 01:44.42 | fooz | i can't wait until sun releases opensolaris. i want to try that out |
| 01:44.49 | dvs | fooz: They did |
| 01:44.50 | Duke | how do you create a new user? |
| 01:44.51 | abrotman | fooz: why .. just download it |
| 01:44.54 | nsillik | opensolaris is coming out for i386? |
| 01:44.56 | abrotman | dvs: not yet |
| 01:45.00 | nirz | how i can remove all KDE packages from my Debian ? |
| 01:45.01 | cafuego | fooz: imagine the massive hardware support that would have ;-) |
| 01:45.01 | fooz | dvs, no they didn't |
| 01:45.04 | tbbw | hello and thanx for last time got a new question doh... any one know why my mouse laggs with kernel 2.6.10 and not with 2.4.28 ?? |
| 01:45.06 | chealer | !repeat |
| 01:45.06 | dpkg | hmm... repeat is if nobody answers your question, don't just repeat it. Spamming the channel and getting ignored/banned/silenced isn't going to get a faster answer; spamming is a function of time. More likely, nobody knows the answer (/msg dpkg ask), or you need to provide more information (/msg apt sicco)), or ask about "smart questions" |
| 01:45.08 | citral | nirz: apt-get remove kde*? then dpkg -l | grep kde to remove the ladt fuckers. Oh, and congratulations :) |
| 01:45.10 | fooz | cafuego, hehe :) 440BX laptop should work |
| 01:45.20 | fooz | abrotman, nah, there's no source yet |
| 01:45.21 | abrotman | !remove kde |
| 01:45.21 | dpkg | from memory, remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 01:45.28 | Duke | !create user |
| 01:45.30 | Duke | !new user |
| 01:45.30 | cafuego | dvs: only a wee components sofar |
| 01:45.31 | abrotman | fooz: i know that .. but you can download the binary installer |
| 01:45.34 | fooz | dvs, do so |
| 01:45.34 | Duke | !make user |
| 01:45.38 | cafuego | dvs: adduser |
| 01:45.40 | citral | Duke: adduser |
| 01:45.41 | cafuego | duke too |
| 01:45.42 | Duke | thanks |
| 01:45.43 | fooz | abrotman, i know, but you've always been able to (legally or illegally :)) |
| 01:45.47 | abrotman | !tell duke about fundamentals |
| 01:45.47 | nirz | i hate kde |
| 01:45.48 | nirz | suks |
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| 01:45.50 | dvs | cafuego: uh.. ok |
| 01:46.05 | citral | kde sucks... your ram |
| 01:46.05 | Duke | ah, i'll bookmark that, thanks |
| 01:46.15 | fooz | abrotman, i don't use operating systems without source available. I know I'll need it cause I have caused the solaris installer to crash before... |
| 01:46.21 | Guerin | !remove kde |
| 01:46.21 | dpkg | [remove kde] apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 01:46.21 | hetore | I like kde |
| 01:46.23 | fooz | and the kernel to panic |
| 01:46.27 | tobehz | SiliconViper: Ok, got gDesklets working. Which applets are those on your desktop? ;p |
| 01:46.33 | abrotman | fooz: the source is available .. just not to you :) |
| 01:46.44 | fooz | at least linux installers are pretty solid :) never segfaulted one |
| 01:46.46 | RedPenguin | I don't understand what I did |
| 01:46.50 | SiliconViper | I've got some Psi monitors, and a few LTcandy ones. |
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| 01:47.14 | RedPenguin | My Debian machine that I updated from DHCP to Static, it allows me to SSH in locally (LAN), but it isn't resolving sites |
| 01:47.23 | citral | I've got a phillips 107S one! |
| 01:47.26 | RedPenguin | I have a good /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces looks good |
| 01:47.32 | nirz | After unpacking 218MB disk space will be freed. |
| 01:47.34 | fooz | cafuego, that's a hardware problem :P |
| 01:47.36 | nirz | no more kde!!!! |
| 01:47.38 | RedPenguin | How can it be good with LAN but the WAN is messed up? |
| 01:47.47 | RedPenguin | It is on the same router that this computer is on |
| 01:47.52 | fooz | cafuego, I've got a K6-3 anyway :) |
| 01:47.53 | cafuego | fooz: if the installer didn't insist on maiing the hardware overheat it'd be fine. |
| 01:48.00 | SiliconViper | tobehz, you could always do what I did.... just try them all out, until you find ones that you like. |
| 01:48.09 | fooz | so I can cook TWO eggs on my box. not just one. :) |
| 01:48.23 | cafuego | but no mobo for 'em |
| 01:48.27 | nirz | !remove gnome |
| 01:48.27 | dpkg | hmm... remove gnome is apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome") |
| 01:48.36 | fooz | i haven't used mine in a year. retired it for an athlon xp |
| 01:48.51 | SiliconViper | Psidisplays are nicer than ltcandy. |
| 01:48.52 | cafuego | I did too, after it blew the ide chip. |
| 01:48.57 | tobehz | SiliconViper: I've found the cool clock, just lookuping for that middle thing -_- |
| 01:48.59 | fooz | i've got some twin athlon machines that are the most stable boxes I've ever had |
| 01:49.03 | cafuego | Then the athlonxp melted and now I have an athlon64 :-P |
| 01:49.05 | nirz | gnome|sucks, tried XFCE ? |
| 01:49.11 | fooz | one colo'd in san diego, one here at home |
| 01:49.20 | Xinukid | : ok i cannot seem to log in to cyradm on a fresh install of cyrus on debian woody |
| 01:49.27 | Xinukid | nyone using cyrus?? |
| 01:49.28 | cafuego | Actually, the box in holland is a k6-2 as well - that runs fine, still. Got a new cpu fan without shut down, too. |
| 01:49.37 | gnome|sucks | nirz: ya |
| 01:49.42 | gnome|sucks | nirz: why? |
| 01:49.43 | citral | dpkg: install fluxbox is apt-get install x-window-system-core fluxbox. Welcome to thinland. |
| 01:49.43 | dpkg | citral: okay |
| 01:50.02 | cafuego | fooz: The athlon here was fine, the PSU was bad. ATX power connector fused to the mobo and insulation melted. |
| 01:50.08 | fooz | haha |
| 01:50.14 | cafuego | fooz: I have photo! |
| 01:50.21 | nirz | gnome|sucks, most of gnome refugees are migrating to xfce |
| 01:50.27 | dvs | cafuego: I'd like to see THAT! |
| 01:50.41 | fooz | pfft silly desktop environments |
| 01:50.53 | cafuego | http://www.cafuego.net/melty_kahlua.png |
| 01:50.57 | fooz | I didn't need one in the 1980s. why do you need one now? |
| 01:51.01 | citral | !start a desktop war |
| 01:51.01 | dpkg | TWM forever! |
| 01:51.05 | gnome|sucks | nirz: heh im a kde user... ever since it started |
| 01:51.10 | cafuego | In the mean tiome I moved the 1GB ram for the amd64 as addition to what it had |
| 01:51.22 | citral | !nickometer gnome|sucks |
| 01:51.22 | dpkg | 'gnome|sucks' is 14.000% lame, citral |
| 01:51.25 | dvs | Ouch! |
| 01:51.31 | gnome|sucks | nirz: just using gnome to find out what a 1000 monkeys can make |
| 01:51.31 | citral | not that much |
| 01:51.35 | pingouin_ | what's you're cafuego ? mine is msi BX440 P3 450mhz pc100 |
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| 01:51.56 | pingouin_ | cafuego: far away ;) |
| 01:51.59 | zakame | is the nickometer okay now? |
| 01:52.17 | citral | depends on all |
| 01:52.28 | cafuego | dvs: The box crashed with weird VGA issues, so suspected the vid card... the molten bit was hidden... so got a kick-arse video card... still didn't help... I *can* happily run the latest3d games now though <heh> |
| 01:52.30 | kdesucksdonkeyba | oh .. |
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| 01:52.36 | kdesucksballs | better? |
| 01:52.45 | cafuego | pingouin_: What's my what? Molten machine? Or desktop? |
| 01:52.55 | pingouin_ | oh 2 ;) |
| 01:52.56 | Eagle101 | kdesucksdonkeyba: do you use xfce4 or ? |
| 01:53.02 | kdesucksballs | gnome and blackbox |
| 01:53.04 | cafuego | pingouin_: No, 7 |
| 01:53.09 | gnome|sucks | bah! monkey lover :D |
| 01:53.10 | pingouin_ | ;) |
| 01:53.18 | kdesucksballs | oh mother of christ .. |
| 01:53.19 | Guerin | gnome is worse than kde |
| 01:53.19 | gnome|sucks | xfce is cool |
| 01:53.21 | Eagle101 | kdesucksballs: well gnome and blackbox suck balls |
| 01:53.22 | gnome|sucks | like it a lot |
| 01:53.23 | kdesucksballs | it won't let me change my nick back |
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| 01:53.28 | kdesucksballs | Eagle101: yours? |
| 01:53.30 | kdegnomexfcealls | nicks can't be that long :/ |
| 01:53.36 | kdegnomexfcealls | sadly |
| 01:53.42 | abrotman | yay |
| 01:53.58 | Guerin | ratpoison! |
| 01:53.58 | cafuego | pingouin_: The desktop is a 1.8GHz Athlon64 2800+, 1.5GB DDR400, 80GB SATA, 3x80GB PATA, 6 x 8xDVDRW |
| 01:54.02 | abrotman | ion |
| 01:54.03 | Guerin | it's good for the soul |
| 01:54.04 | cafuego | s/8/12/ |
| 01:54.07 | abrotman | !start a wm war |
| 01:54.07 | dpkg | olwm bites! |
| 01:54.11 | abrotman | it does indeed |
| 01:54.17 | CoolPops | PekWM is pretty good too. |
| 01:54.37 | fooz | ... |
| 01:54.42 | Guerin | !nickometer CaPsFuCkEr |
| 01:54.47 | abrotman | he fucks hats? |
| 01:54.50 | fooz | cafuego, what's internode? |
| 01:54.56 | cafuego | fooz: My isp. |
| 01:54.56 | Guerin | 10:51:35 <dpkg> the 'lame nick-o-meter' reading for CaPsFuCkEr is 99.9684%, guerin |
| 01:54.59 | fooz | oh |
| 01:55.01 | Guerin | !botsnack |
| 01:55.01 | dpkg | Guerin: :) |
| 01:55.07 | CaPsFuCkEr | ahhhhh |
| 01:55.18 | abrotman | ba .. |
| 01:55.21 | abrotman | !nickmeter abrotman |
| 01:55.23 | dpkg | abrotman is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 01:55.26 | abrotman | woohoo |
| 01:55.26 | CaPsFuCkEr | yay |
| 01:55.32 | cafuego | fooz: the thing on my website is a usage meter thingie (as aussie ISps tend to not have both unlimited downlaods and quality service) |
| 01:55.42 | Guerin | didn't say anything about the nick, though |
| 01:55.57 | chealer | lol, emacs is a WM now :) |
| 01:56.02 | Optical | lol |
| 01:56.04 | CaPsFuCkEr | a kitchen |
| 01:56.09 | fooz | emacs has had windows and managed them for a long time |
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| 01:56.23 | abrotman | !bloat |
| 01:56.23 | dpkg | "GCC is the only one [GNU Software] that I really care about. A number of them I hate with a passion; the Emacs editor is horrible, for example. While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it needs to be." -- Linus Torvalds (father of Linux), or see emacs |
| 01:56.24 | cafuego | Xerox ripped off emacs! |
| 01:56.49 | abrotman | wait til those hippies find out |
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| 01:56.59 | fooz | linux is larger than emacs? |
| 01:57.06 | Guerin | he lies |
| 01:57.08 | Guerin | well |
| 01:57.11 | fooz | hehe |
| 01:57.11 | gnome|sucks | chealer: ? a wm? |
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| 01:57.14 | cafuego | fooz: The source, not the binary. |
| 01:57.14 | dork | I never really used Emacs ... I always used vim/vi like a surgeon doing heart surgery. |
| 01:57.15 | abrotman | Guerin: you sure? |
| 01:57.26 | Guerin | the base distro of emacs isn't THAT big |
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| 01:57.27 | chealer | gnome|sucks: window manager |
| 01:57.28 | CaPsFuCkEr | emacs is fine, for some jobs. ever tried to do latex with vi? |
| 01:57.34 | Guerin | yeah |
| 01:57.36 | gnome|sucks | url |
| 01:57.40 | Guerin | auctex pwns you all |
| 01:57.42 | abrotman | i have |
| 01:57.44 | hetore | jed is a nice editor |
| 01:57.55 | fooz | notepad > all |
| 01:57.56 | cafuego | Guerin: is it bigger or smaller then a 3Mb compiled-with-all-modules kernel? |
| 01:57.58 | hetore | It uses emacs |
| 01:58.00 | fooz | or something |
| 01:58.02 | dork | CaPsFuCkEr: No I'd do LatEx with scripts then |
| 01:58.15 | Frem | hey, what file do i need to edit to automaticly start things when I login in x? |
| 01:58.20 | cafuego | Guerin: The thing is, emacs is *huge* and *still* depends on libc ;-) |
| 01:58.21 | Guerin | cafuego: much, much bigger. The binary itself is 4.3MB |
| 01:58.33 | fooz | cafuego, keep in mind the kernel's compressed.. |
| 01:58.45 | dork | CaPsFuCkEr: The keybindings in Emacs are insane |
| 01:58.48 | fooz | cafuego, even a largely modular kernel is 4.6MB uncompressed (vmlinux) |
| 01:58.50 | dork | CaPsFuCkEr: Not to mention it's bloated |
| 01:59.04 | cafuego | fooz: yeah, but it supports more hardware then emacs does. |
| 01:59.10 | fooz | cafuego, lies |
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| 01:59.15 | jasz | !mldonkey |
| 01:59.15 | dpkg | mldonkey is probably a nice edonkey client, or at http://www.freesoftware.fsf.org/mldonkey/ |
| 01:59.20 | cafuego | M-x probe-ide.el |
| 01:59.21 | CaPsFuCkEr | dork: I tried a lot of different things, and emacs is honestly the best, the most helpful thing for latex. You learn the keybindings in one hour, done. Your productivity x 36 |
| 01:59.28 | cafuego | E: No hardware found. |
| 01:59.37 | cafuego | fooz: it's the truth! |
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| 01:59.45 | Guerin | cafuego: your lack of knowledge of emacs is showing |
| 01:59.51 | fooz | CaPsFuCkEr, so x 36.. you mean to say, that it binds EVERY LETTER KEY, then EVERY NUMBER KEY? |
| 02:00.08 | cafuego | Guerin: I don't lack emacs knowledge. 'Lack' implies it would somehow be useful. |
| 02:00.10 | fooz | hehe |
| 02:00.23 | Guerin | cafuego: it'd be M-x load-file RET probe-ide.el RET M-x probe-ide RET |
| 02:00.29 | abrotman | oh dear god |
| 02:00.39 | CaPsFuCkEr | fooz: you didn't really try, I forgive you. |
| 02:00.53 | chealer | I have problem printing with lpr (printer stops at the beginning of a job), are there postscript packages I should try to update? |
| 02:01.20 | Guerin | cafuego: that's the long way |
| 02:01.23 | fooz | ? |
| 02:01.29 | Guerin | there's a short way to do everything in emacs, too |
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| 02:01.55 | cafuego | Guerin: lies |
| 02:02.14 | citral | you may also notice that key bindings like ctrl-e or ctrl-a are the same in ash and emacs |
| 02:02.18 | clueless | any one seen backport of python 2.4 for woody? |
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| 02:02.42 | abrotman | i did'nt know python2.4 was out |
| 02:02.46 | cafuego | citral: That would be relevant to people not running screen. |
| 02:02.54 | Xinukid | nyone using cyrus?? |
| 02:03.01 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 02:03.01 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 02:03.03 | abrotman | mother fucker |
| 02:03.07 | Xinukid | ? |
| 02:03.12 | abrotman | stop fucking with cyrus .. it's obvious you don't know how to make it work |
| 02:03.17 | fooz | screen doesn't stop you from using C-a |
| 02:03.17 | cafuego | Xinukid: I use cyrus, but not on woody, and not for much longer (I think it's crap) |
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| 02:03.25 | abrotman | try any other damn pop3 server |
| 02:03.28 | abrotman | there are dozens |
| 02:03.32 | citral | cafuego: badgers. ctrl-e works, ctrl-a a special for screen |
| 02:03.37 | Xinukid | heh |
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| 02:03.42 | abrotman | it's not funny |
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| 02:03.53 | Xinukid | what the fuck man it should work... |
| 02:03.56 | clueless | !python |
| 02:03.56 | dpkg | from memory, python is a very nice scripting language, easy to learn and still quite powerful and elegant if you know how to use it, or see http://python.org/topics/learn/ |
| 02:04.03 | cafuego | citral: I know it's special *kick* |
| 02:04.07 | fooz | i need to set up cyrus |
| 02:04.10 | Lo_Meinix | cafuego, hows the non-smoking? |
| 02:04.14 | abrotman | clueless: are they at backports.org or apt-get.org ? |
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| 02:04.18 | cafuego | Lo_Meinix: Easy |
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| 02:04.29 | Lo_Meinix | I need to quit |
| 02:04.31 | abrotman | Xinukid: it doesn't .. try something else |
| 02:04.32 | cafuego | I quit smoking 2 months, 1 week, 5 days, 20 hours, 6 minutes and 27 seconds ago. |
| 02:04.36 | Xinukid | ok |
| 02:04.39 | Guerin | again |
| 02:04.41 | clueless | abrotman: I already checked the usual suspects.... but no cigar.... |
| 02:04.42 | abrotman | Xinukid: are you also db101 that was here last night? |
| 02:04.43 | lawnchair | how can i add quotes themself toa file in a shell script |
| 02:04.44 | Xinukid | fine then |
| 02:04.44 | lawnchair | like.... |
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| 02:04.56 | lawnchair | echo ""bleh"" >> asfdasfd |
| 02:04.56 | Eagle101 | help. how would i uninstall an app in debian? |
| 02:05.01 | lawnchair | i want hte actual quotes in the file |
| 02:05.05 | cafuego | Eagle101: apt-get remove <app> |
| 02:05.07 | abrotman | this from the guy who says gnome sucks |
| 02:05.09 | Xinukid | doean anyone know a fuckin working pop3 server one debian woody and one that actually works.. |
| 02:05.11 | fooz | gotta work out how to set up a vhosting setup with users in LDAP and authentication with kerberos |
| 02:05.17 | Guerin | !tell Eagle101 about pkgmgmt |
| 02:05.19 | Xinukid | not one that appears on the apt cache |
| 02:05.20 | abrotman | !pop3 |
| 02:05.20 | dpkg | i heard pop3 is a really pesky way to get email, especially if you have lots of it. or an evil thing most people on the internet are stuck with whether they like it or not or see fetchmail, or telnet your.pop3.server.org pop3 |tee -a mymails, user johndoe, pass ****, list, retr 1, dele 1, quit, or rfc1939 |
| 02:05.20 | cafuego | lawnchair: \"bleh\" |
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| 02:05.25 | lawnchair | cafuego, thanks dood |
| 02:05.34 | cafuego | ik ben niet dood, lummem! |
| 02:05.37 | Spadino | hi |
| 02:05.38 | cafuego | lummel, ook. |
| 02:05.44 | clueless | python 2.4 was out in nov of last year and no .deb.... I am wondering if the thing works on debian at all???? |
| 02:06.00 | abrotman | clueless: there's a reason it's not officially on woody |
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| 02:06.01 | bob2 | clueless: um, it's been in Debian for months |
| 02:06.03 | Spadino | anyone who knows where to find a detailed guide to install kernel ? |
| 02:06.06 | abrotman | clueless: is it even in sid? |
| 02:06.13 | abrotman | !tell clueless about simple sid backport |
| 02:06.20 | dondelelcaro | !info python2.4 |
| 02:06.24 | abrotman | clueless: but don't come back crying if it breaks |
| 02:06.26 | dpkg | python2.4: (An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.4)), section python, is optional. Version: 2.4-3 (sid), Packaged size: 3427 kB, Installed size: 10992 kB |
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| 02:06.30 | abrotman | bob2: for woody |
| 02:06.34 | Spadino | !info kernel |
| 02:06.35 | Lo_Meinix | Spadino: http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node134.html |
| 02:06.53 | cafuego | Hmm. Do i want to spend $8,000 on advertising? |
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| 02:07.07 | citral | debian is a bit conservative, sometimes. |
| 02:07.07 | Lo_Meinix | cafuego: what are you advertising? |
| 02:07.12 | cafuego | Lo_Meinix: Myself |
| 02:07.17 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: send me 8K. I'll stick up stupid flyers advertising your services on campus. |
| 02:07.22 | rellik | sry dondelelcaro I was afk for a while.. any more ideas why portmapper is refusing any connection not from 127.0.0.1 ? |
| 02:07.25 | jasz | ok, so I'm in as root, trying to install something, I do ./configure and it gives me the following: -su: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied << wtf is this? |
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| 02:07.34 | clueless | abrotman: that's why I am looking for backport.... I am running a nice system here... I dont want to ever do sid again.... |
| 02:07.35 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: no one will make use of your services, but hey, what do you want for 8K. |
| 02:07.37 | bob2 | cafuego: it sounds like you already have all the business you need |
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| 02:07.52 | cafuego | bob2: yeah, but it's a BARGAIN! ;-) |
| 02:07.52 | abrotman | clueless: ok .. fine .. now what? |
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| 02:08.22 | dondelelcaro | rellik: and what does netstat -plunt|grep ':111' ouput? |
| 02:08.26 | cafuego | jasz: looks like a seriously borked install. |
| 02:08.38 | vchrizz | uhm, how do you call "LaTeX"? (speaking) |
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| 02:08.48 | citral | latek |
| 02:08.49 | abrotman | Lay-Tek |
| 02:08.53 | dondelelcaro | vchrizz: lay-tech |
| 02:09.05 | clueless | what's holding backport of python2.4 to woody???? maybe, just maybe, I can help???? |
| 02:09.22 | vchrizz | hum, my teacher told me to say "LaTech" ? |
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| 02:09.28 | cafuego | clueless: pythin2.4 will NEVER be in woody, unless you do it yourself. |
| 02:09.28 | abrotman | clueless: lack of desire? |
| 02:09.31 | rellik | dondelelcaro, "tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:111 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 11526/portmap" "udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:111 0.0.0.0:* 11526/portmap" |
| 02:09.32 | bob2 | clueless: email the backport people |
| 02:09.36 | abrotman | cafuego: he said backport |
| 02:09.40 | jasz | cafuego, like what kind of problem? |
| 02:09.50 | cafuego | jasz: like /bin/sh not working |
| 02:10.00 | dondelelcaro | rellik: and again, portmap is only bound to 127.0.0.1... paste the contents of /etc/default/portmap into #flood |
| 02:10.17 | dondelelcaro | rellik: also, ps axfu|grep portmap |
| 02:10.31 | clueless | cafuego, abrotman: it that it? lack of desire???? not technical issues? |
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| 02:10.39 | dondelelcaro | rellik: dpkg -l portmap will also help me |
| 02:10.41 | nivekz | hello, i try to use "route" command but cannot see a line of 127.0.0.0 to "lo". In the past I manually added lo to "etc/network/interfaces". is it all right? |
| 02:11.04 | dondelelcaro | nivekz: there's no need. anything going to lo connects to 127.0.0.1 |
| 02:11.09 | maher | clueless: probably no one cares - try backporting the packages yourself... |
| 02:11.23 | cafuego | clueless: indeed. Probably most python users who want astable system stick with what is available on woody now. |
| 02:11.33 | abrotman | clueless: try it ... |
| 02:11.44 | nivekz | dondelelcaro: oh thank you :) |
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| 02:11.53 | cafuego | clueless: Any reason you require 2.4 and not 2.3 or whatever is in woody? |
| 02:12.03 | dondelelcaro | rellik: daemon 11526 0.0 0.0 1596 456 ? Ss Jan25 0:00 /sbin/portmap -i 127.0.0.1<-- hrm, I wonder why it's bound to 127.0.0.1 |
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| 02:12.28 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: I think that's the default (re: FAM) |
| 02:12.28 | jasz | cafuego, any ideas on how to fix /bin/sh ? i use bash all the time.. and /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash .. so why is it not working? |
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| 02:12.43 | rellik | dondelelcaro, hmm... /etc/default/portmap is all commented out |
| 02:12.47 | cafuego | jasz: change the top of ./configure to /bin/bash and see what happens |
| 02:12.50 | clueless | cafuego: 2.1 is in woody. and 2.4 does have some bug fixes that i care about.... |
| 02:12.52 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah... it's a sane default, but changing it in /etc/default/portmap is trivial. |
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| 02:13.05 | dondelelcaro | rellik: you're using the ubuntu package. $DEITY knows what they've fucked with |
| 02:13.16 | cafuego | clueless: Woody gets backported bug fixes via security.debian.org |
| 02:13.21 | dondelelcaro | rellik: most likely you'll find that someone has hardcoded -i into /etc/init.d/portmap |
| 02:13.23 | nivekz | i just installed apache1.3 using apt-get, but i dont know how to control this service, as in the manual it only says that i can only stop the service by looking into PID file and using kill... I even dont know easily when my apache server is running or down, what can i do? |
| 02:13.26 | maher | clueless: grab the sid sources and try and build them on woody |
| 02:13.39 | KD6PAG | You probably mean 2.2, as the odd ones are development kernels (2.5, etc.) |
| 02:13.54 | cafuego | nivekz: you can run 'apachectl' and /etc/init.d/apache |
| 02:13.59 | rellik | dondelelcaro, hmm... that doesn't sound hopeful :( so now what? |
| 02:14.02 | jasz | -su: ./configure: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied << cafuego :( |
| 02:14.08 | dondelelcaro | rellik: if that's the case, explicitely setting OPTIONS="" in /etc/default/portmap should work. |
| 02:14.12 | RedPenguin | Doesn't Debian use /etc/resolv.conf to do DNSes? |
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| 02:14.24 | citral | RedPenguin: yes |
| 02:14.28 | Guerin | RedPenguin: what makkes you think it doesn't? |
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| 02:14.36 | cafuego | jasz: What are you trying to compile? |
| 02:14.36 | dondelelcaro | rellik: otherwise, file a bug against portmap in ubuntu; and tell me the output of apt-cache show portmap|grep Maintainer; so I can laugh at whoever it is |
| 02:14.42 | jasz | cafuego, .. just mldonkey! |
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| 02:14.57 | Guerin | jasz: don't try it on a noexec partition |
| 02:14.58 | jasz | but the same sh!t happened when i tried to install java 5 :( |
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| 02:15.03 | abrotman | !mldonkey |
| 02:15.03 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mldonkey is a nice edonkey client, or at http://www.freesoftware.fsf.org/mldonkey/ |
| 02:15.06 | abrotman | bah |
| 02:15.11 | cafuego | jasz: Which debian version are you running? |
| 02:15.21 | dondelelcaro | rellik: furthermore, asking ubuntu specific questions in #debian without telling us that you're running ubuntu is kind of rude. You should ask them in #ubuntu instead. |
| 02:15.24 | jasz | cafuego, ... sarge (testing) |
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| 02:15.39 | cafuego | jasz: Can you paste the result of 'md5sum /bin/bash' here? |
| 02:15.40 | citral | mldonkey has disapeared from sarge |
| 02:15.43 | jasz | it may be what Guerin says.. let me check /etc/fstab |
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| 02:15.50 | rellik | dondelelcaro, heh well yeah.. but had no idea this was an ubuntu problem |
| 02:15.53 | jasz | gimme one sec.. |
| 02:16.02 | cafuego | Should be '6a01accdaa1baad9b2af1bcda2d80769' |
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| 02:16.11 | rob0 | I don't know much Debian, but I would think "backporting" python 2.4 would be a simple matter: compile it, install it, do something to tell the dpkg database that it's manually installed ... is that correct? |
| 02:16.15 | xsdg | what's a video player that can use w32codecs, and allows me to go forward or backward frame-by-frame in at least .mov and .avi videos? |
| 02:16.20 | nivekz | cafuego: ah thanks, apachectl seems to be what i want. |
| 02:16.25 | dondelelcaro | rellik: doesn't matter. If you're running ubuntu, you should start in #ubuntu. Especially if the package involved as a 5-4ubuntu5 version number |
| 02:16.36 | jasz | 6a01accdaa1baad9b2af1bcda2d80769 /bin/bash |
| 02:16.38 | cafuego | rob0: No, that's bad. |
| 02:16.44 | nivekz | i have stopped apache, why do i still see apache in ps ? |
| 02:16.50 | jasz | looks the same to me.. |
| 02:16.52 | maher | rob0: if you grab the sid sources you could make debs |
| 02:16.55 | cafuego | rob0: You get the sid source-deb and rebuiold in on woody, with fixed depends. |
| 02:17.04 | MrGnome | Hello, what is the name of the x-server dev package needed when i get a "Can't find X-includes"? |
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| 02:17.08 | cafuego | jasz: Yep. Time to check fstab. |
| 02:17.16 | toresbe | nivekz: Probably a client is still using the connection? |
| 02:17.21 | cafuego | MrGnome: xlibs-dev |
| 02:17.27 | MrGnome | thanx! |
| 02:17.30 | rellik | dondelelcaro, k... I actually did start in #ubuntu but no one knew.. but, point taken :) ... putting 'OPTIONS="" ' in /etc/default/portmap didn't do it :( |
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| 02:17.41 | jasz | /dev/hda1 /home ext2 rw,defaults,auto,errors=remount-ro 0 0 |
| 02:17.42 | dondelelcaro | rellik: ok then someone has totally fucked /etc/init.d/portamp. |
| 02:17.43 | abrotman | noone in #ubuntu ever knows :) |
| 02:17.49 | dondelelcaro | rellik: use the paster bot to paste your /etc/init.d/portmap |
| 02:17.49 | cafuego | rellik: Remove the '-i 127.0.0.1' from /etc/init.d/portmap |
| 02:18.00 | nivekz | toresbe: ah, i dont know, i didnt do much to the server |
| 02:18.07 | toresbe | nivekz: If you want it to die, killall apache would do nicely? |
| 02:18.12 | cafuego | jasz: Does 'dmesg' list any nasty looking errors? |
| 02:18.25 | rellik | dondelelcaro, paster bot? |
| 02:18.28 | dondelelcaro | !paster |
| 02:18.28 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste select #debian, and paste away. |
| 02:18.29 | xsdg | did anyone see my video player question? |
| 02:18.30 | jasz | cafuego, ... idonk think so.. let me check.. |
| 02:18.41 | dondelelcaro | rellik: then file a bug against the portmap package in ubuntu telling whoever the maintainer is to grow a clue and use /etc/default/portmap to set the -i option, or set OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1" before '. /etc/default/portmap;' |
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| 02:19.18 | nivekz | toresbe: oh, i see, but i just wonder why the server can not shut down fully by the control command it provides |
| 02:19.20 | paster | "rellik" at 131.151.181.84 pasted "/etc/default/portmap" (55 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/215 |
| 02:19.30 | nivekz | toresbe: anyway, i will killall, thank you |
| 02:19.38 | cafuego | nivekz: it will, once that remote client disconnects. |
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| 02:19.55 | jcurry | is debian's freetype compiled with the bytecode interpreter enabled? |
| 02:20.01 | nivekz | cafuego: oh, i see, thank you |
| 02:20.10 | zakame | nivekz: great sig there... |
| 02:20.11 | abrotman | jcurry: that sounds like a question for the maintainer |
| 02:20.12 | rellik | dondelelcaro, ok, I will file a bug report.. thanks a lot for the help... it's good to at least feel like I get what's wrong, even if I can't fix it :) |
| 02:20.39 | jcurry | abrotman, mmkay, i thought someone would know offhand |
| 02:20.42 | rellik | how do I find out the maintainer of a package ? |
| 02:20.45 | jcurry | abrotman, thanks |
| 02:20.48 | chealer | xsdg: mplayer |
| 02:21.00 | abrotman | !maint freetype |
| 02:21.10 | jasz | cafuego, .. i actually get some weird output in dmesg ... but not on hda (/home).... it is on hdb (/) |
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| 02:21.15 | clueless | !mythtv |
| 02:21.16 | dpkg | i heard mythtv is software to turn a Linux box + TV tuner into a TiVo. mythtv.org, but freevo is better Sid and woody packages can be found at http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/ |
| 02:21.21 | nivekz | is apache1.3 for debian safe enough after initial installation? do i have to do something else? |
| 02:21.25 | abrotman | a little lag? |
| 02:21.32 | cafuego | jasz: Does it look at all like the kernel may have oopsed? |
| 02:21.34 | xsdg | chealer: how do I do frame-by-frame forward or backward in mplayer? |
| 02:21.35 | maher | nivekz: no |
| 02:21.36 | chealer | xsdg: I'm not really sure though. ask there if you want to be sure |
| 02:21.48 | jasz | cafuego, .. it looks ok to me... |
| 02:21.51 | maher | nivekz: except configure it to your liking |
| 02:21.54 | abrotman | nivekz: you got the package from the http archive? |
| 02:22.07 | dondelelcaro | rellik: ok, it should be ARGS=""; and that's all that should be in /etc/default/portmap; if you /etc/init.d/portmap stop; then /etc/init.d/portmap start; you should see portmap running without a -i option. |
| 02:22.08 | jlj | is there any way to automatically remove programs installed with "make install"? Something like "make remove"? |
| 02:22.14 | jasz | hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 02:22.17 | cafuego | jasz: Normally, no. |
| 02:22.20 | nivekz | i just "apt-get install apache" |
| 02:22.32 | nivekz | and i am using testing |
| 02:22.32 | cafuego | jasz: Hmm. ide drive may be on the blink. |
| 02:22.45 | cafuego | jlj: Nope, too bad. |
| 02:22.57 | tobehz | jasz: were you messing with hdparm? |
| 02:23.01 | jasz | cafuego, .. could that be the problem? |
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| 02:23.26 | cafuego | jasz: it's possible, but if that's the case I'd go and find a new hdd. |
| 02:23.46 | jlj | cafuego: ok :(..a bit unconvinient |
| 02:23.55 | jasz | tobehz, .. i did mess arounf with hdparm .. but the problem existed before i did it... when i tried to install java 5... it gave me the same error... today i played with hdparm -d1 and that was it.... |
| 02:24.03 | jasz | s/arounf/around |
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| 02:24.21 | jasz | arounf.. sounds like an old dog... |
| 02:24.21 | rellik | dondelelcaro, ah ok, that got rid of the "-i ..." ... even so, I still can't connect :( |
| 02:24.24 | tobehz | jasz: well it may be in a mode which it's not made for |
| 02:24.25 | dondelelcaro | ah, ok... mdz probably made the patch... he knows what he's doing. |
| 02:24.39 | tobehz | i had that problem; i had to reinstall, but the drive worked afterwards |
| 02:24.49 | toresbe | damnit |
| 02:24.51 | cafuego | jlj: Well, serves you right for installing stuff that's not been packaged. |
| 02:24.51 | tobehz | but only when the drive was reset properly |
| 02:24.57 | dondelelcaro | rellik: well, that's the very first thing that's wrong. now netstat -plunt; should show portmap listening on 0.0.0.0:111 |
| 02:24.59 | toresbe | why doesn't elinks wrap lines? |
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| 02:25.17 | abrotman | toresbe: quitcherbitching |
| 02:25.19 | jlj | cafuego: guess so :-) |
| 02:25.39 | jasz | how would i reinstall bash ? |
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| 02:25.46 | pingouin_ | any advices about an «calendar» tool but..in console ? |
| 02:25.50 | Lo_Meinix | cool, my new kernel is werkin |
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| 02:25.56 | maher | jasz: --reinstall |
| 02:25.56 | rellik | dondelelcaro, nope.. still "tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:111 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 11526/portmap" |
| 02:26.02 | dondelelcaro | hrm... ok |
| 02:26.11 | clueless | apt cal |
| 02:26.14 | apt | methinks cal is a calendar. try $(cal 1752) |
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| 02:26.31 | dondelelcaro | rellik: you may need to explicitely set ARGS="-i 127.0.0.1 -i whateveryouripis" |
| 02:26.39 | dondelelcaro | rellik: or ARGS="-i 0.0.0.0" |
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| 02:27.04 | pingouin_ | sorry my english to bad, a tool to note date with my boss to be fired, or with my girlfriend to be late |
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| 02:27.23 | freedom101 | some of you have like me a lot of host try to get in your ssh? |
| 02:27.30 | toresbe | I just don't like it when half of the sentence disappears th |
| 02:27.36 | shingouz | is there a way to check if the OSS cs4232 sound is in duplex mode? google seems worthless today at least for me |
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| 02:27.50 | Flimzy | For read-only operations, does IDE-scsi emulation hurt performance? |
| 02:28.03 | maher | freedom101: yes |
| 02:28.13 | freedom101 | what did you do? |
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| 02:28.28 | maher | freedom101: set no root login and ignored it |
| 02:28.35 | freedom101 | ok |
| 02:29.00 | tobehz | rooooot has landed @_@ |
| 02:29.29 | tobehz | :( |
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| 02:30.15 | rellik | dondelelcaro, tried both 'ARGS="-i 0.0.0.0"' and 'ARGS="-i 131.151.181.70"' ... after both did stop/start on portmap, and after both 'netstat -plunt' still shows 127.0.0.7:111 for portmap |
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| 02:33.54 | jasz | ok so.. |
| 02:33.58 | jasz | i checked.. |
| 02:34.02 | jasz | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.10 | jasz | and it was "ok" supposedly.. |
| 02:34.10 | CoolPops | I am up and running in 2.6.10 however, I seemed to have lost my usb mouse. The optical light isn't even lit. I modprobe usbmouse but it didn't change. Any ideas? (my own 2.6.10 kernel) |
| 02:34.27 | maher | CoolPops: modprobe psmouse |
| 02:34.32 | jasz | but i copied the files to another partition.. and did ./configure ... and it worked.. W-T-F |
| 02:34.38 | jasz | i need to mount /home with "exec" |
| 02:34.40 | jasz | i guess |
| 02:35.07 | dondelelcaro | rellik: hrm. well, quite probably that ubuntu's portmap is broken. |
| 02:35.15 | tobehz | CoolPops: apt-get install hotplug, and make sure usb support is compiled in |
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| 02:35.35 | dondelelcaro | rellik: you didn't also see a 0.0.0.0:111 when you ran that command, did you? |
| 02:35.44 | dondelelcaro | rellik: or a 131.151.181.70:111 |
| 02:35.57 | jasz | cafuego, ... does that make any sense at all? |
| 02:36.01 | CoolPops | tobehz: everything worked fine under 2.4.27, but not with my 2.6.10 kernel. |
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| 02:36.21 | tobehz | CoolPops: well you need usb support and hotplug in 2.4.27 |
| 02:36.28 | tobehz | so you must have had them |
| 02:36.36 | tobehz | a usb mouse won't just "work" |
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| 02:37.00 | tobehz | but I didn't even ask which kernel it worked with; I told you to install hotplug and compile in usb support |
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| 02:37.27 | CoolPops | maher: PS/2 mouse is compiled into the kernel |
| 02:37.45 | rellik | dondelelcaro, no, only 127.0.0.1:111 :( ... again, thanks for all your help.. if you have any more ideas, feel free to share.. I'm gonna go file a bug report and just hope that somebody will fix it |
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| 02:37.50 | Paco | (chruriad): i installed ndiswrapper, and i instaleld the driver successfully, but i still cannot get my wirelss card going...it is a broadcom. |
| 02:38.05 | maher | CoolPops: does hotplug or lsusb see the mouse |
| 02:38.16 | dondelelcaro | rellik: yeah, sounds like a bug to me... unless -i is something totally different in ubuntu. check portmap |
| 02:38.22 | dondelelcaro | rrr.. man portmap; |
| 02:38.29 | dondelelcaro | probably also read /usr/share/doc/portmap/*; |
| 02:38.58 | rellik | dondelelcaro, yeah I've read that, and 'man portmap'ed .. the thing is that neither of those docs mention any flags other than "-v" ... |
| 02:39.04 | CoolPops | maher: I've never used those tools, but it seems that they don't. |
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| 02:39.43 | CoolPops | maher: /etc/init.d/hotplug restart shows nothing of it and lsmod just lists one line Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 02:39.44 | maher | CoolPops: do you have e/u/ohci_hcd loaded |
| 02:40.19 | tobehz | Does anybody know how to get the extensions/themes/general settings of Firefox from one user and copy them for another? |
| 02:40.20 | dondelelcaro | rellik: well, then file a bug I guess. |
| 02:40.34 | CoolPops | maher: ehci_hcd ? It's listed in lsmod, Used by = 0 |
| 02:40.37 | dondelelcaro | tobehz: most of the settings are in .mozilla/firefox/sakdfj;askljdf/prefs.js |
| 02:40.51 | maher | CoolPops: did you compile this kernel yourself? |
| 02:41.03 | tobehz | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 02:41.11 | CoolPops | maher: yes, because I was having problems with the debian kernels. It's what others here recommened I do. |
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| 02:41.29 | CoolPops | maher: everything (including my sound yay!) works, except my mouse :-( |
| 02:41.37 | RedPenguin | Guerin, well, I know that /etc/resolv.conf does DNSes, but for some reason my Deb's machines LAN is working but not the WAN |
| 02:42.12 | hetore | l |
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| 02:42.23 | RedPenguin | I can easily SSH into it, and even though my /etc/network/interfaces looks great, I can't seem to resolv anything |
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| 02:42.45 | maher | CoolPops: do you have usbcore and usbhid loaded |
| 02:43.18 | CoolPops | maher: yes, usbcore shows it's used by ehci_hcd,usbhid |
| 02:43.34 | maher | CoolPops: ok - dunno |
| 02:43.48 | CoolPops | maher: ok. thanks for trying. |
| 02:44.57 | Xinukid | Jan 26 17:31:37 expressclue imapd[3970]: badlogin: expressclue[127.0.0.1] plaintext cyrus cannot connect to pwcheck server |
| 02:45.18 | Laney | is there no mplayer package? |
| 02:45.25 | chealer | !mplayer |
| 02:45.25 | dpkg | methinks mplayer is not in Debian. You may want to use vlc or xine instead. St. Marillat has made unofficial debs available. marillat website is DOWN. See: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ (maybe) |
| 02:45.40 | RedPenguin | What should I look for, because my Deb machine works nicely LAN wise, but WAN stuff, keeps not being able to work |
| 02:45.43 | Laney | ta |
| 02:46.23 | RedPenguin | "iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.103 netmask 255.255.255.0" is in my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:46.30 | RedPenguin | That is working for my LAN but not my WAN |
| 02:46.35 | RedPenguin | Does that look incorrect? |
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| 02:47.03 | jcarr | hey, what's the best news reader to get for linux? |
| 02:47.08 | jcarr | Pan? |
| 02:47.11 | maher | RedPenguin: can you ping your gateway |
| 02:47.42 | Nurbs | gettext (0.14.1-7.java.3 => 0.14.1-8.csharp.1) <= is it just some bored package maintainer? :) |
| 02:47.57 | RedPenguin | Oh, do I need to put in a Gateway somewhere? |
| 02:48.04 | RedPenguin | I think that was a problem with a Gentoo machine one time |
| 02:48.22 | jasz | redloff, ... gw 192.168.1.254 |
| 02:48.46 | jcarr | xsharp |
| 02:48.48 | jcarr | heheh |
| 02:48.49 | RedPenguin | My gateway is 192.168.1.1 and the machine can ping it |
| 02:48.49 | jasz | er.... RedPenguin .... gateway 192.168.1.254 |
| 02:48.53 | jcarr | I know C POUND!! |
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| 02:48.58 | RedPenguin | But if I try like ping www.yahoo.com it fails |
| 02:49.02 | jcarr | 2 years experience in C POUND! |
| 02:49.07 | jcarr | lol |
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| 02:49.21 | jasz | redloff, .. then fix /etc/resolv.conf and add nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
| 02:49.28 | jasz | damn |
| 02:49.36 | jasz | RedPenguin, ... then fix /etc/resolv.conf and add nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
| 02:49.42 | RedPenguin | There we go. |
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| 02:49.53 | RedPenguin | I just added gateway 192.168.1.1 and it started working |
| 02:50.10 | nivekz | oops, apache is runned when booting, how do disabled it |
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| 02:50.39 | maher | nivekz: update-rc.d |
| 02:50.43 | jasz | nivekz, .. either uninstall it.. or update-rc.d |
| 02:50.45 | jasz | there |
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| 02:51.09 | jasz | RedPenguin, .. is 192.168.1.1 a router? or another computer acting as a router? |
| 02:51.24 | nivekz | oh, thanks |
| 02:52.20 | nivekz | ah, is debian using runlevel 2 or 5? |
| 02:52.24 | jasz | 2 |
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| 02:53.08 | RedPenguin | The router |
| 02:53.08 | nivekz | updaterc.d is said to be update system-V level, will it work? |
| 02:53.19 | jasz | nivekz, yes |
| 02:53.31 | RedPenguin | Though my router has a switch (software) that can make it a router or gateway |
| 02:53.40 | nivekz | thank you |
| 02:53.48 | RedPenguin | Even if there isn't an extreme amount of difference between a router and gateway |
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| 02:54.46 | cafuego | !#%^ |
| 02:55.11 | paolo | Hi ! |
| 02:55.19 | dansushi | sorry |
| 02:55.58 | paolo | I wasn't able to find any jdk1.2 in the web. CAn anyone halp me installing that version of java ? |
| 02:56.09 | jasz | paolo, www.javasoft.com |
| 02:56.25 | paolo | jasz: THANKS ! |
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| 02:58.46 | paolo | jasz: Do you know any version packed for debian ? Cause the url redirectme to java.sun.com |
| 02:59.07 | jasz | paolo, ... sun releases a linux version of jdk... |
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| 02:59.21 | jasz | paolo, .. you can also use the blackdown version... |
| 02:59.24 | jasz | !blackdown |
| 02:59.24 | dpkg | blackdown kicks ass; they're java people for linux -- http://www.blackdown.org, or a group of Sun Java products ported to Linux by the Blackdown development team. Get it at http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html, or most mirrors have aptable sections, or a group of folks who signed NDA's with Sun and got the JDK source code. they ported it to linux and put it up on blackdown.org, or ask me about get-blackdown |
| 02:59.24 | Guerin | paolo: /msg dpkg install java |
| 02:59.39 | Guerin | but the blackdown packages are hit |
| 02:59.41 | Guerin | shit |
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| 02:59.50 | Guerin | so use java-package if you must have java |
| 02:59.52 | vchrizz | is there a 'jpegtran' debian package? apt-cache search doesnt return any results |
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| 02:59.53 | FraudulentPeanut | Hello all |
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| 03:00.08 | paolo | Ohhh. someone told about that GUERIN |
| 03:00.30 | paolo | so I prefered a sun version packed for debian |
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| 03:00.54 | jasz | sun does not package a version of java specifically for debian... not that i mind... |
| 03:00.57 | FraudulentPeanut | i have a question to ask.. i am trying to install my wireless usb network card |
| 03:01.23 | FraudulentPeanut | and i need the path to the kernel source to edit into the Makefile |
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| 03:01.34 | paolo | I mean, not packed BY sun, I mean by someone else |
| 03:01.50 | jasz | paolo, ... Guerin just told you |
| 03:02.13 | paolo | jasz: OK... |
| 03:02.16 | maher | FraudulentPeanut: are you using a debian kernel |
| 03:02.29 | Laney | is there a way to automatically satisfy dependencies that i get from a .deb file? |
| 03:02.32 | FraudulentPeanut | yes 2.4.18-bf2 |
| 03:02.36 | maher | Laney: use apt? |
| 03:02.42 | abrotman | Laney: apt-get install ? |
| 03:02.49 | Laney | it's not on the official repositories |
| 03:02.49 | jasz | Laney, apt-get install <package name> |
| 03:02.53 | maher | FraudulentPeanut: look for a kernel headers package |
| 03:02.57 | Laney | unless i can apt-get install <x.deb> |
| 03:02.57 | in\exhale | Suddenly without changing any settings when linux boots I get a blank screen instead of console. I can login kai startx thought... any ideas/ |
| 03:03.06 | abrotman | !tell FraudulentPeanut about real kernel |
| 03:03.14 | jasz | Laney, ... then the provider of the package may have added an apt source for that package.. |
| 03:03.26 | maher | Laney: ok - there's no super convenient way to do that |
| 03:03.51 | Laney | right |
| 03:04.02 | maher | FraudulentPeanut: don't msg me |
| 03:04.19 | maher | FraudulentPeanut: try apt-cache search kernel-headers |
| 03:04.37 | Atropine | Laney: you still can submit a bug report to have this added... on the apt whishlist |
| 03:04.51 | Laney | is there any chance it will? |
| 03:04.58 | Overand | How can I see what files a .deb file contains? |
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| 03:05.14 | Atropine | Laney: if you don't ask, there's no chance it will, no |
| 03:05.19 | Laney | :P |
| 03:05.19 | vchrizz | Overand: http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 03:05.27 | jcarr | YUCK!!! |
| 03:05.31 | FraudulentPeanut | i got a lot but i dont see the path in that |
| 03:05.35 | maher | Laney: try doing dpkg -i then apt-get -f upgrade |
| 03:05.36 | jcarr | Candidate must be familiar with procedural programming |
| 03:05.36 | jcarr | methods and techniques. |
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| 03:05.43 | jcarr | procedural programming!? |
| 03:05.46 | jcarr | no thank you! |
| 03:06.08 | maher | FraudulentPeanut: if you can't fing the kernel headers for your kernel install the most reent debian kernel - that will have headers available |
| 03:06.09 | Overand | vchrizz: no, it's an unofficial package. |
| 03:06.10 | in\exhale | all I see instead of console is a big black screen!! wtf/// |
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| 03:06.19 | distempr | What's something I can run that really taxes my cpu? |
| 03:06.21 | distempr | like an infinite loop? :) |
| 03:06.28 | bob2 | distempr: build a kernel |
| 03:06.29 | Overand | distempr: there are some 'burn-in' apps |
| 03:06.30 | Guerin | in\exhale: turn your monitor on |
| 03:06.36 | Overand | bob2: that's a lot of disk access too |
| 03:06.41 | distempr | bob2: thx |
| 03:06.43 | PitchForkLinux | Can Debian Stable have a higher version of KDE installed without having to upgrade Woody to Sarge/testing? |
| 03:06.44 | distempr | Overand: like? |
| 03:06.49 | bob2 | Overand: and memory |
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| 03:06.50 | bob2 | distempr: cpuburn |
| 03:06.54 | bob2 | PitchForkLinux: #debian-kde |
| 03:06.56 | in\exhale | Guerin, thx for helping dumbass |
| 03:06.56 | distempr | bob2: nice |
| 03:07.06 | Atropine | distempr: everyone knows linux runs an infinite loop in 5 seconds so it's fast... find something else |
| 03:07.07 | jcarr | distempr, I usually create an object that creates a copy of itself in its constructor |
| 03:07.08 | Atropine | :P |
| 03:07.15 | jcarr | that usually does the trick to tax the CPU |
| 03:07.19 | distempr | Atropine: heh ;) |
| 03:07.19 | vchrizz | Overand: man dpkg ... "dpkg --unpack package_file" |
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| 03:07.30 | jasz | hahaha... that should go to bash.org |
| 03:07.32 | jcarr | the infinitiy loop redefined :) |
| 03:07.33 | FraudulentPeanut | i found the kernel-headers i just cant find the path to them |
| 03:07.37 | distempr | jcarr: just need a dirty hack that uses everything (integer.. floating point etc..) |
| 03:07.39 | jasz | "turn your monitor on" |
| 03:07.40 | Guerin | in\exhale: You're welcome. Dumbasses often need help in here. |
| 03:07.50 | maher | FraudulentPeanut: did you install them |
| 03:07.51 | PitchForkLinux | bob2 what was that you just gave me? |
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| 03:08.07 | FraudulentPeanut | yes |
| 03:08.09 | jcarr | distempr, how about an object that does complex floating point calculations, and calls its constructor in the destructor? |
| 03:08.13 | bob2 | PitchForkLinux: a channel to ask in |
| 03:08.24 | maher | FraudulentPeanut: dpkg -L packagename will tell you where it put things |
| 03:08.35 | PitchForkLinux | bob2 ok thanks |
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| 03:08.55 | distempr | jcarr: :P Don't have the time.. i just want to see what temp my cpu hits when it's maxed for 30 mins |
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| 03:09.07 | jcarr | another interesting thing to do would be to have an object create copies of itself, and then generate 50 references to each copy and store them :P |
| 03:09.20 | jcarr | or just follow the null pointer in C++ |
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| 03:09.25 | WiFiTux | !praise screen |
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| 03:09.55 | distempr | bob2: nice i've gone from 30C to 37C with cpuburn-in in like 20 secs... that can't be good for the die :) |
| 03:10.01 | WiFiTux | KRISS_KROSS, aha aha! |
| 03:10.05 | vchrizz | !praise squirrelmail |
| 03:10.38 | jcarr | !praise php |
| 03:10.46 | jcarr | !praise jcarr |
| 03:10.47 | vchrizz | !praise irssi |
| 03:10.48 | vchrizz | :D |
| 03:10.50 | WiFiTux | Hey, someone here with a IBM Thinkpad T42? |
| 03:10.50 | distempr | php? sounds like a nasty drug... |
| 03:10.58 | distempr | "Yeah I do PHP, it's addictive" |
| 03:11.00 | |rufius| | !praise monkeys |
| 03:11.05 | jcarr | !praise windows |
| 03:11.08 | WiFiTux | distempr, you sound like a nasty sickness |
| 03:11.11 | jcarr | hehehe |
| 03:11.12 | vchrizz | lol php a drug? .oO(pcp) :P |
| 03:11.18 | |rufius| | !praise drugs |
| 03:11.19 | jcarr | !praise Microsoft |
| 03:11.26 | |rufius| | lol |
| 03:11.31 | jcarr | prostrates? |
| 03:11.34 | distempr | WiFiTux: heh yep :) it was unregistered.. what can I say? :) |
| 03:11.35 | WiFiTux | jcarr, what's wrong with you? |
| 03:11.43 | WiFiTux | !knoppixsmite jcarr |
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| 03:12.02 | jcarr | !praise slashdot |
| 03:12.02 | distempr | "I just can't stop from using PHP" ... "It's free" ... "You can even get it on the web..." |
| 03:12.06 | jcarr | now THAT is true evil |
| 03:12.19 | jcarr | distempr, I am moving away from PHP really |
| 03:12.46 | distempr | Heh, i ripped that from #etpro ;) We had a PHP poke-a-thon last night. |
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| 03:13.35 | jcarr | why the hate on PHP? It is really a pretty good language |
| 03:13.38 | vchrizz | is there a 'jpegtran' debian package? apt-cache search doesnt return any results |
| 03:13.47 | jcarr | it's only the idiots who code it horribly that make it bad |
| 03:13.49 | distempr | jcarr: nah.. it was invented by a french canuck :) |
| 03:14.01 | jcarr | i.e. the ones who mix it tightly with html |
| 03:14.45 | distempr | jcarr: I just don't like all the built-ins... it's a matter of choice... I mean c and c++ don't have _that_ many functions built in... neither does perl. php is just spaghetti but that's just imo.. |
| 03:14.45 | jcarr | Then there's my javascript based RSS aggregator I use :) |
| 03:15.33 | jcarr | nah |
| 03:15.33 | distempr | wow... 46C now... |
| 03:15.33 | distempr | cpu frequency scaling = hot |
| 03:15.33 | jcarr | it's always the person who writes it |
| 03:15.39 | jcarr | my code is clean and object oriented |
| 03:15.46 | jcarr | although I am considering moving to python for web coding |
| 03:16.10 | distempr | Seriously? I'm still in mad love with perl for that kinda stuff. |
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| 03:18.08 | tobehz | jcarr: python for life @_@ |
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| 03:24.11 | ludi | how do I setup my modem in linux? It's an external modem on my serial port. |
| 03:24.13 | jcarr | distempr, I couldn't see making a large application in perl |
| 03:24.32 | jcarr | maybe a simple script, but not some full fledged enterprise level app |
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| 03:24.51 | distempr | I've done it ;) |
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| 03:24.55 | distempr | and it kicks ass |
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| 03:24.58 | distempr | :) |
| 03:25.30 | distempr | nehoo i'm off g'nite folks.. |
| 03:25.30 | Aries7777 | wen im installing debian from the cd that contains the iso will it prompt me to create another partition or should i do that now in windows? |
| 03:25.30 | vs_zach | yo zach |
| 03:25.30 | mohohaha | what's a good address book software that use database |
| 03:25.31 | ludi | how do I setup my modem in debian sarge? It's an external modem on my serial port. |
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| 03:26.38 | bkinman | How do i know if i have the javaSDK on my system and where it is at? |
| 03:26.51 | Aries7777 | wen im installing debian from the cd that contains the iso will it prompt me to create another partition or should i do that now in windows? |
| 03:27.23 | chealer | bkinman: do you have free-java-sdk? |
| 03:27.33 | Aries7777 | me? |
| 03:27.38 | bkinman | I do not chealer. |
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| 03:28.01 | vs_zach | u mean create another partition not delete ur current one right |
| 03:28.04 | hello_world | how do i replace my redhat from debian, i haven't floppy and cdrom drive. only wireless lan |
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| 03:28.13 | Aries7777 | yea |
| 03:28.16 | chealer | bkinman: why would you have a java SDK on your system? |
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| 03:28.48 | chealer | Aries7777: it will prompt you, unless your disk is already full |
| 03:29.00 | Aries7777 | o |
| 03:29.03 | chealer | I only tried sarge BTW |
| 03:29.10 | maher | hello_world: how did you install redhat |
| 03:29.29 | ludi | how do I setup my modem in debian sarge? It's an external modem on my serial port. |
| 03:29.40 | jcarr | ludi, have fun... |
| 03:29.53 | bkinman | This is someone elses system actually im trying to get JSP working on it. im in the process of configuring tomcat4 |
| 03:29.55 | hello_world | remove the hd from my notebook and install redhat from other pc |
| 03:29.57 | toresbe | night, folks |
| 03:29.57 | jcarr | last time I tried to install a modem, everyone told me to fuck off |
| 03:30.11 | maher | hello_world: you can install debian that way too |
| 03:30.14 | ludi | --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.54.0 |
| 03:30.15 | ludi | --> Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Cannot set information for serial port. |
| 03:30.28 | ludi | that's the problem I'm getting |
| 03:30.47 | vs_zach | is your hard drive completely taken up by windows? |
| 03:30.53 | Aries7777 | wen it prompts me will it overwrite my current partition or create an entirely new one and how big is the partition it creates |
| 03:31.42 | chealer | Aries7777: as you wish |
| 03:32.02 | Aries7777 | ? |
| 03:32.14 | Aries7777 | do u mean i get to choose |
| 03:32.31 | vs_zach | if so i would back up all the files you have on that partiton/hard drive and then delete that partition and in debian installation let it make one for u |
| 03:32.37 | vs_zach | yes dumbass |
| 03:32.38 | hello_world | is it possible to replace redhat with debian through lan install? |
| 03:32.38 | vs_zach | lol |
| 03:32.44 | chealer | yes. it's mediumly usable, but it's still good in features |
| 03:32.52 | cafuego | hello_world: Possibly. 'debtakeover'. |
| 03:33.05 | Guerin | !dict mediumly |
| 03:33.07 | dpkg | could not find definition for mediumly |
| 03:33.20 | hetore | . |
| 03:34.14 | Aries7777 | lol |
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| 03:34.40 | FraudulentPeanut | hello again |
| 03:34.45 | FraudulentPeanut | just real quick |
| 03:35.04 | FraudulentPeanut | i am runing the base-config again.. how do i select to install the kernel-headers |
| 03:35.27 | in\exhale | Suddenly without changing any settings when linux boots I get a blank screen instead of console. I can login kai startx thought... wtf? |
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| 03:36.47 | FraudulentPeanut | any ideas? |
| 03:37.10 | chealer | FraudulentPeanut: you can install the package |
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| 03:37.26 | chealer | in\exhale: I don't understand "I can login kai startx thought... wtf?" |
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| 03:38.01 | in\exhale | I meant "I can login AND startx" |
| 03:38.08 | Karhuton | I have an odd problem. |
| 03:38.08 | vs_zach | xinit |
| 03:38.13 | tmanDebian | I need help getting Totem to play DVD. Any takers? |
| 03:38.36 | Karhuton | I've been running Gnome for some time and just installed whole KDE with apt-get install kde. The menu only has gnome programs in it! |
| 03:39.03 | chealer | tmanDebian: maybe, what's your problem? |
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| 03:39.56 | chealer | Karhuton: The K menu doesn't have "System->Terminal (Konsole)" for example? |
| 03:40.02 | Karhuton | chealer: Nope |
| 03:40.11 | AlexW | ramzi:/home/alexw# php |
| 03:40.11 | AlexW | bash: php: command not found |
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| 03:40.14 | Karhuton | chealer: Had to use the run thingy to open konsole and konqueror |
| 03:40.14 | AlexW | any ideas? |
| 03:40.21 | chealer | Karhuton: I heard update-menus sometimes help, but no idea |
| 03:40.27 | robink | When will debian have libgtk2,6? |
| 03:40.32 | Karhuton | chealer, Tried running "update-menus", which gave me Control Center in it. |
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| 03:40.46 | Karhuton | chealer: But not the others. |
| 03:40.51 | chealer | Karhuton: no idea |
| 03:40.59 | chealer | which release BTW? |
| 03:41.02 | Karhuton | Sarge. |
| 03:41.25 | chealer | AlexW: php isn't a program, it's an apache module |
| 03:41.33 | Karhuton | Tried removing some .kde directories and restart KDE, but no help |
| 03:41.37 | AlexW | but u can also have it as a program correct |
| 03:41.46 | chealer | AlexW: if you want php in CLI use php-cgi |
| 03:41.53 | AlexW | CLI? |
| 03:41.57 | chealer | command line |
| 03:42.01 | AlexW | ahh |
| 03:42.02 | AlexW | it is |
| 03:42.09 | AlexW | rc php4-cgi 4.3.10-1.dotde server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag |
| 03:42.26 | chealer | yes |
| 03:42.43 | AlexW | well how come i cant get it in cmd |
| 03:43.00 | chealer | AlexW: wait maybe php4-cli |
| 03:43.13 | chealer | s/maybe/very maybe |
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| 03:43.29 | AlexW | E: Package php4-cli has no installation candidate |
| 03:43.37 | abrotman | php4-cgi |
| 03:43.39 | abrotman | not cli |
| 03:43.46 | AlexW | but thats installed |
| 03:44.01 | abrotman | so use it |
| 03:44.02 | Karhuton | kmenuedit: WARNING: Could not read /home/timo/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu |
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| 03:44.09 | AlexW | but it doesnt work |
| 03:44.21 | AlexW | bash: php4: command not found |
| 03:44.24 | AlexW | bash: php: command not found |
| 03:44.32 | abrotman | php<tab><tab> |
| 03:44.38 | Flimzy | Xcdroast says "you have to install ProDVD support before you can write DVDs." What is ProDVD support? |
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| 03:45.20 | AlexW | abrotman: O_o |
| 03:45.30 | abrotman | what? |
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| 03:45.37 | AlexW | ahh dw |
| 03:45.40 | AdrianLP | Anyone noticed that Firefox, once it loads a Java class file, will always use it? I opened a Java class. Since then I deleted the Java class file, closed Firefox, and opened that HTML file again. It still displays the class file, which no longer exists. I emptied cache, refreshed the page, it still displays the non-existant class file. |
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| 03:45.48 | AlexW | i uncommented my dotdeb.org line |
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| 03:45.53 | AlexW | i see the package anow |
| 03:46.03 | vulture | AdrianLP: so it's probably in some other cache.. *shrugs* |
| 03:46.08 | vulture | AdrianLP: it'll be there somewhere |
| 03:46.11 | chealer | in\exhale: how do you know you can login if you don't have screen? tried sounds or something? |
| 03:46.18 | tmanDebian | chealer: thanks for replying. I get a WARNING: Don't know how to read dvd:// error from totem. |
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| 03:46.27 | hello_world | set term_force_colors off |
| 03:46.37 | AdrianLP | vulture: I hit the clear cache button, I'd have thought that was all cache. |
| 03:46.39 | in\exhale | chealer, startx works fine |
| 03:46.45 | chealer | tmanDebian: just guessing, but are you using it in gnome |
| 03:46.52 | tmanDebian | Yes. |
| 03:46.59 | lakersfan | has anyone else had problems with firefox seg faulting recently (unstable) |
| 03:47.00 | lakersfan | ? |
| 03:47.03 | abrotman | AdrianLP: java has it's own cache |
| 03:47.09 | tmanDebian | Gnome 2.8 |
| 03:47.15 | chealer | in\exhale: you mean that brings back your screen? maybe I misunderstand you |
| 03:47.16 | in\exhale | chealer, but when I go back to console it's still all blank |
| 03:47.23 | chealer | ah ok |
| 03:47.25 | abrotman | tmanDebian: libdvdread3 |
| 03:47.40 | AdrianLP | abrotman: Really? The local Java runtime would cache the applet? |
| 03:47.40 | tmanDebian | Yep. With libdvdcss2 also. |
| 03:48.01 | abrotman | AdrianLP: well .. let me say this .. on windows it does .. i've not worked enough with java on linux |
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| 03:48.14 | abrotman | AdrianLP: like .. maybe .java/cache ? |
| 03:48.21 | tmanDebian | Checking my /dev, I have a link to /dev/hdb with /dev/dvd. |
| 03:48.25 | tobehz | java is faster on linux than windows |
| 03:48.26 | chealer | tmanDebian: otherwise, your DVD drive works (eg data DVD)? |
| 03:48.27 | tobehz | that is for sure |
| 03:48.52 | tmanDebian | It works fine. I can play the movies using Gxine. |
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| 03:49.06 | abrotman | totem has been having issues lately :) |
| 03:49.13 | abrotman | tmanDebian: check the bts |
| 03:49.26 | tmanDebian | bt who? |
| 03:49.37 | abrotman | !bts |
| 03:49.38 | dpkg | i heard bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
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| 03:50.07 | chealer | in\exhale: so all your ttys are black screens? |
| 03:50.22 | in\exhale | chealer, yeah |
| 03:50.27 | AdrianLP | abrotman: I found a "~/.java/deployment/cache/", and did `rm -r ~/.java/deployment/cache/*`. Still Firefox insists on showing a cached version. Weird. |
| 03:50.40 | abrotman | AdrianLP: dunno then .. ask irc.mozilla.org ? |
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| 03:50.54 | jochen_m | Hello |
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| 03:51.04 | in\exhale | chealer, it's weird cause everything worked fine untill a few hours ago and I did change anything (at least on purpose) |
| 03:51.14 | chealer | in\exhale: I wonder if I didn't already heard about that problem, but I don't remember solution for sure anyway. I hope others do |
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| 03:51.48 | jmstacey | I'm runnind 3.0, are there any configurations for ifconfig which could disable the network device from handling multiple IP's? For example, if I run this: ifconfig eth0:15 yy.yy.yyy.yy netmask 255.255.0.0 It replaces the original ip address xx.xx.xxx.xx (where x+y are the ip address ;) |
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| 03:52.21 | tobehz | how do you set the uid bit of something? chmod 4xxx foobar? |
| 03:52.21 | jmstacey | instead of running both IP's simulaneously |
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| 03:54.05 | J35U5 | and someone send me in a message what to do with a .tar |
| 03:54.40 | Flimzy | tobehz: Do you mean the suid bit? There is no such thing as a "uid bit" |
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| 03:55.12 | Flimzy | tobehz: in any case, man chmod should tell you |
| 03:55.12 | Flimzy | J35U5: Is there a question in there somewhere? |
| 03:55.23 | J35U5 | indeed. |
| 03:55.36 | J35U5 | let me rephrase. |
| 03:55.44 | Flimzy | jms: Why are you using IP aliasing if you don't want multiple addresses? |
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| 03:56.11 | abrotman | J35U5: man tar |
| 03:56.15 | J35U5 | could some one please explain in a msg how i would install something from a .tar? |
| 03:56.19 | J35U5 | kk |
| 03:56.32 | J35U5 | thank you abrotman |
| 03:56.48 | tmanDebian | chealer, My issue is resolved. I had Totem gstreamer installed and not Totem-Xine. Now everything is fine. Thanks for your help and inquiry. |
| 03:57.09 | chealer | J35U5: how do you to be explained anyway? in a picture? |
| 03:57.16 | abrotman | draw a fucking box! |
| 03:57.23 | Flimzy | J35U5: There is no standard way to install something from a .tar, because .tar is just an archive format (similar to .zip in Windows). |
| 03:57.44 | J35U5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:57.56 | Flimzy | J35U5: read the man page for tar ('man tar') to learn how to open the contents of a tar file, though... and then what you do with the contents is up to you |
| 03:58.00 | Guerin | J35U5: don't 'install' things from tar files. Use debian packages and apt-get. |
| 03:58.12 | chealer | tmanDebian: did I help? :) next time don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 03:58.22 | abrotman | Guerin: not entirely true . you can install from a tar file |
| 03:58.36 | Guerin | abrotman: you CAN. Not that you should. |
| 03:58.40 | findme | which software can i use to grab digital video from a camcorder other than dvgrab and kino ? |
| 03:58.51 | abrotman | Guerin: if that is your systems package format .. nothing wrong with it |
| 03:58.56 | Guerin | ignoring the fact for a moment that a .deb is a couple of tar files... |
| 03:59.07 | chealer | findme: gtkam? I have to try yet |
| 03:59.14 | Guerin | abrotman: silly me, here I was presuming debian again. |
| 03:59.20 | findme | chealer, hmm, let me give it a shot. thanks though. |
| 03:59.24 | somiaj | trying to get all the mulitmedia keys to work on a keyboard, but I can only get scancodes for about 1/2 of them, any suggestions? |
| 03:59.26 | Flimzy | Guerin: a .deb is not a tar file |
| 03:59.32 | abrotman | Guerin: i know .. sorry |
| 03:59.36 | abrotman | .deb is ar :) |
| 03:59.38 | Guerin | Flimzy: no. It's a couple of them. |
| 03:59.38 | abrotman | not tar |
| 03:59.44 | Flimzy | Guerin: No it's not any of them. |
| 03:59.47 | abrotman | it's ar |
| 03:59.59 | Guerin | Flimzy: yes, it is. Open up a deb and you will find a couple of tar files. |
| 04:00.04 | abrotman | ar ar ar |
| 04:00.08 | chealer | findme: pkg desc says "digital still cameras"... |
| 04:00.09 | tmanDebian | chealer, normally posts go ignored. Just thanking you for the effort in trying to help resolve. Also don't like to interrupt conversations, so I simply ask if someone's time is available first. |
| 04:00.15 | Flimzy | Guerin: A developer may put a .tar in the package... but the deb format itself odesn't use tar |
| 04:00.21 | abrotman | ar ar ar |
| 04:00.21 | findme | chealer, yeah, not firewire camcorder :-( |
| 04:00.29 | abrotman | !moo |
| 04:00.30 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
| 04:00.32 | Flimzy | Guerin: I have opened more Debian packages than you can shake a stick at. And I've built more than you can shake a slightly smaller stick at. |
| 04:00.37 | abrotman | ar ar ar |
| 04:00.45 | Guerin | Flimzy: that's where you're wrong. Unar a .deb file and you'll get control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz |
| 04:00.46 | Flimzy | Guerin: and I'm telling you... it doesn't use tar. It uses ar as abrotman has been saying |
| 04:00.49 | abrotman | ar -x blah.deb |
| 04:01.03 | abrotman | iirc anyways |
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| 04:01.11 | vulture | Guerin / Flimzy: oh for the love of $DEITY stop arguing across one another. |
| 04:01.12 | tbbw | how do i update a woody to sarge? |
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| 04:01.20 | guru | why would i have hda - hda20, hdb - hdb20, hdc - hdc20, hdd - hdd20, hde - hde20, hdf - hdf20, hdg - hdg20, and hdh - hdh20? |
| 04:01.24 | vulture | yes a deb is an ar archive, yes these archives contain tars |
| 04:01.24 | abrotman | echo $DEITY |
| 04:01.25 | vulture | move on. |
| 04:01.29 | chealer | tmanDebian: I wouldn't ask "700 people" if they have time to be asked. interrupting conversation can't be an argument here |
| 04:01.40 | abrotman | vulture: don't make me get chicken hawk! |
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| 04:01.48 | cafuego | chealer: Shhh! I'm talking here!!! |
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| 04:02.01 | Flimzy | Man... 4x CD burning is *slooow* |
| 04:02.06 | Guerin | !tell tbbw about woody->sarge |
| 04:02.23 | tbbw | Guerin: TY MAN :D |
| 04:02.41 | abrotman | Flimzy: take the resistors out |
| 04:02.46 | Flimzy | abrotman: heh |
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| 04:02.54 | Flimzy | abrotman: the trouble is this cheap 4x RW media |
| 04:03.01 | abrotman | Flimzy: oh .. that doesn't matter |
| 04:03.03 | timzter | I changed my apache config to use port 81 but it looks like Cox is filtering port 81 too! |
| 04:03.10 | abrotman | Flimzy: is it really anything you want to keep? |
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| 04:03.17 | abrotman | timzter: so pick another .. they can't block them all |
| 04:03.18 | Flimzy | abrotman: No... that's why it's on RW media. hehe |
| 04:03.22 | abrotman | well .. they could i guess |
| 04:03.35 | Flimzy | abrotman: I bought the cheapest 5-pack of RW media I could find... so I could do some test burns without making permanent coasters |
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| 04:03.45 | abrotman | Flimzy: oh .. good plan |
| 04:04.13 | abrotman | egad .. a `pete from .ca |
| 04:04.17 | abrotman | !iapf |
| 04:04.17 | dpkg | rumour has it, iapf is It's All Pete's Fault(http://www.itsallpetesfault.org) |
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| 04:04.34 | abrotman | oh shit . .don't vote for me |
| 04:04.40 | abrotman | don't click that link and vote for me |
| 04:04.50 | abrotman | if you do .. i'll hunt you down and make you look at the results |
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| 04:05.21 | Guerin | didn't you win that already? |
| 04:05.25 | abrotman | Guerin: no .. not yet |
| 04:05.30 | Guerin | oh |
| 04:05.37 | abrotman | gah |
| 04:05.47 | abrotman | Guerin: i can buy a ticket to korea!! |
| 04:06.00 | Guerin | abrotman: huzzah! Just wait until march. |
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| 04:06.08 | abrotman | NZ? |
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| 04:06.18 | abrotman | !iaaf |
| 04:06.18 | dpkg | iaaf is, like, It's All Abrotman's Fault (http://www.itsallabrotmansfault.org/) |
| 04:06.22 | sky0 | guru: because the 'files' in /dev don't actually show what disks/cdroms your computer has; do "cat /proc/partitions" or look at "/sys/block" if you have a 2.6 kernel. |
| 04:06.25 | abrotman | bob2: and no .. i did'nt make that factoid |
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| 04:06.53 | guru | ahh ok |
| 04:06.55 | abrotman | bob2: the guy who is that pete .. made that factoid |
| 04:06.56 | guru | no i have 2.4 |
| 04:07.01 | guru | i need to updaww |
| 04:07.03 | guru | wtf? |
| 04:07.07 | guru | upgrade |
| 04:07.25 | guru | all your text are belong to /dev/urandom |
| 04:07.34 | bob2 | abrotman: do you know pete? |
| 04:07.58 | abrotman | bob2: i do .. he's pseudobot on freenode .. and a seul person |
| 04:08.08 | abrotman | !factinfo iaaf |
| 04:08.08 | dpkg | iaaf -- created by pseubodot <~p-dot@pete.economics.utoronto.ca> at Wed Nov 24 04:28:06 2004 (63 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by abrotman, 1m 50s ago. |
| 04:08.13 | timzter | abrotman: ok, I changed it to port 99, but I still cant get thru |
| 04:08.21 | bob2 | ah |
| 04:08.25 | abrotman | timzter: call your isp . or try like .. 8111 |
| 04:08.26 | timzter | abrotman: could it filter by protocol/ |
| 04:08.34 | abrotman | timzter: i suppose it could |
| 04:08.41 | abrotman | timzter: firewalls aren't my speciality |
| 04:08.56 | bob2 | abrotman: you're kicking arse in the poll |
| 04:09.10 | abrotman | bob2: it's not something you want to win |
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| 04:09.29 | tbbw | oooh god... |
| 04:09.29 | abrotman | oh shit |
| 04:09.31 | abrotman | i woke him up |
| 04:09.38 | abrotman | bob2: that's the pete there!! |
| 04:09.55 | tbbw | i got an error while doing the apt-get update in the sarge upgrade from woody |
| 04:09.58 | tbbw | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 04:10.00 | bob2 | haha |
| 04:10.08 | bob2 | !+dynamic mmap |
| 04:10.09 | dpkg | it has been said that dynamic mmap is "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
| 04:10.16 | bob2 | also, trim your sources.list |
| 04:10.21 | abrotman | it wasn't me |
| 04:10.22 | abrotman | !iaaf |
| 04:10.22 | dpkg | iaaf is probably It's All Abrotman's Fault (http://www.itsallabrotmansfault.org/) |
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| 04:12.05 | Flimzy | Is there any way to fixate a CD after accidentally adding '--multi' to the cdrdao command line? Or alternately, is there any way to blank only the last session? |
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| 04:12.19 | pook | I think i'm not understanding something about installing drivers because I am going nuts trying to get the wireless to work on my centrino notebook |
| 04:12.31 | tbbw | bob2: ty that fixed the problem |
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| 04:12.44 | jmstacey | How do I get ifconfig to add another ipv4 address instead of replacing the original one? (I want two to run at the same time on the same network device) |
| 04:12.55 | pook | I've done everything that the man pages recommended, but no dice |
| 04:13.09 | abrotman | !ipw2100 |
| 04:13.09 | dpkg | it has been said that ipw2100 is ipw2100.sourceforge.com, find your intel wireless pro driver there. This driver doesn't work with merely the kernel-headers-* package; it wants the Makefile from the full source tree. Have fun building a custom kernel. |
| 04:13.10 | hetore | jmstacey: ifconfig eth0:2 192.168.0.2 |
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| 04:13.36 | jmspeex | Is it safe to do the libgcc1 upgrade necessary for trying out gcc 4.0? |
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| 04:15.28 | jmstacey | hetore: I get an error about No such device. What should the number after "eth0:" be? |
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| 04:15.42 | pseubodot | abrotman: still trying to get people to vote for you in the poll? |
| 04:15.42 | pseubodot | abrotman: :) |
| 04:15.43 | hetore | jmstacey: 1 or 2 i think |
| 04:15.55 | bob2 | jmstacey: or 'sudo ip add add 192.172.2.2 dev eth0' |
| 04:16.00 | bob2 | but ifconfig won't show it |
| 04:16.03 | abrotman | pseubodot: no no no |
| 04:16.06 | pook | abrotman, i have the latest kernel and the ipw2200 drivers from sourceforge |
| 04:16.06 | pook | lsmod even says its up and running |
| 04:16.09 | abrotman | pseubodot: but i think bob2 did |
| 04:16.10 | jmstacey | hetor: tried both |
| 04:16.13 | abrotman | pook: ok |
| 04:16.21 | jmstacey | etor: anyway to find out what it needs to be? |
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| 04:16.26 | abrotman | pook: i'd email the ipw2200 people i guess |
| 04:16.36 | jmstacey | bob2: I need it through ifconfig, thanks though |
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| 04:16.45 | Flimzy | woot... I just successfully duplicated an audio CD and it's CD-Extra track. |
| 04:16.50 | hetore | eth0:2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:9F:1B:C0:67 |
| 04:17.00 | pseubodot | abrotman: well, you're pretty popular already ... guess people want to see you posing naked, huh? :) |
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| 04:17.20 | pook | well here's the thing.. some dude a coulpe months ago helped me figure it out....and it worked beautifully |
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| 04:17.35 | bob2 | ifconfig is the old way to do it |
| 04:17.36 | tbbw | abrotman: 5$ for a nekid pic J/K ;) |
| 04:17.39 | bob2 | it's weird it's still so common |
| 04:17.51 | pook | but i had to reinstall....the thing is he had me doing all these commands and i have no clue what was going on....i'm trying to actually LEARN...but i'm stuck |
| 04:17.53 | robink | Did you know that there are 400x the amount of bacteria on your keyboard than there are on the rim of most toilets? |
| 04:18.13 | Flimzy | jmstacey: If you have IP Aliasing support, you can use an indefinate number of aliases... i.e. eth0:0, :1, :2 .. :n |
| 04:18.38 | Flimzy | jmstacey: the only limitation (AFAIK) would be that of the kernel's ability to add more routing entries, or other memory-type limitations |
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| 04:20.02 | hetore | whats that app called which monitors the battery level? |
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| 04:21.04 | jmstacey | hetore: Any Ip address I try to add with the devnum trailing the interface says No device found. Any ideas as to what could possibly cause that? |
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| 04:21.54 | hetore | jmstacey: im not sure, it works on my box |
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| 04:22.11 | hetore | jmstacey: im not sure, it works on my box |
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| 04:22.48 | jmstacey | hetore: I'm running 3.0, you? |
| 04:23.35 | hetore | im on sarge with 2.6.8 kernel |
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| 04:25.56 | FraudulentPeanut | can i install the kernel-headers from dselect? |
| 04:25.57 | netsplit | I have xfs running and I installed all packages that looked relevant in apt, but I still can't display Chinese fonts in Firefox. Any idea what I'm missing? |
| 04:26.10 | jmstacey | hetore: running 2.4 kernel here, insufficient support to do this possibly? |
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| 04:26.59 | hetore | jmstacey: Its gotta be a something in the kernel |
| 04:27.35 | Flimzy | jmstacey: Do you have IP Aliasing support installed? |
| 04:28.11 | jmstacey | Flimzy: Most likely not if it does not come with the base system ;) Any good tutorial links? |
| 04:28.29 | Flimzy | jmstacey: You must recompile your kernel with IP Aliasing support. |
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| 04:28.46 | Flimzy | jmstacey: I don't think it can be installed as a module, but I may be wrong. |
| 04:29.01 | FraudulentPeanut | can i install the kernel-headers from dselect? |
| 04:29.13 | Flimzy | FraudulentPeanut: I believe so. |
| 04:29.15 | AlexW | are there any CLI mp3 players |
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| 04:29.55 | moyix | AlexW: mpg123, mpg321, mp3blaster... |
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| 04:32.39 | AlexW | it doesnt recognise my sound 0_o |
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| 04:34.20 | gameover | what is the modules directory in sarge |
| 04:34.27 | gameover | 2.6.8 kernel |
| 04:35.02 | drac | I have one machine that has been using 'unstable' for months now, can I just change it from sources.list now to 'sarge'? Or will that cause problems? |
| 04:35.02 | pabl0 | mm.. strange. I've installed Debian in a Laptop, with Kernel 2.6.10, everything updated to SID. However, 'all' (usb, for example) are in /.dev (not (/dev). Any ideas? |
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| 04:36.07 | AlexW | hrrm |
| 04:36.13 | AlexW | doesnt support my sound card |
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| 04:38.24 | jmstacey | what is the latest kernel version supported by woody? Is it 2.4.29? |
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| 04:38.47 | drac | woody? 2.4.18 |
| 04:38.50 | guru | if i create a new partition for /opt how do i move the contents of my current /opt into the new one? |
| 04:38.54 | netsplit | Why doesn't Woody support all kernel versions? |
| 04:39.00 | fcep | hey everyone |
| 04:39.07 | moyix | AlexW: all of those use /dev/audio, I think. if you're using ALSA, you might have to modprobe the OSS-compatibility modules |
| 04:39.09 | guru | would i simply tar -cf opt.tar /opt? |
| 04:39.15 | pabl0 | wtf, what does this means: |
| 04:39.20 | pabl0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.21 | pabl0 | ? |
| 04:39.41 | xlc | its from udev, i guess |
| 04:39.59 | pabl0 | ohh |
| 04:40.10 | pabl0 | so its new.. 'not a bug, its a feature' |
| 04:40.54 | vulture | pabl0: how'd you arrive at that conclusion? |
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| 04:41.35 | pabl0 | :-P |
| 04:41.48 | Overand | Is there a convention for switching 'tabs' in X, ala Konsole tabs, tabs in firefox, etc? In the windoze world it's control-tab, but that switches desktops in KDE |
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| 04:42.26 | fcep | quick question: if i uninstall a metapackage, ie: x-window-system, do the actual components of the metapackage (for example in this case, xfree86) get removed also? |
| 04:42.28 | pabl0 | I supouse that. Why?.. Google doesnt says that its a bug, they say that its 'normal' if the user is running udev (like me) |
| 04:42.31 | xlc | Overand: there is no convention. |
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| 04:43.45 | Overand | Sigh. That's the one thing that's always struck me as the weirdest paradox of the nix world. Great console apps, but most window managers and widget toolkits don't handle keyboard support in a great way. It's the one thing I can say I prefer on the windoze world. that's about it. |
| 04:44.01 | pook | what command should i use if I want to compare several files with the same name? |
| 04:44.02 | fcep | i cant find the answers anywhere :( |
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| 04:44.25 | Eagle101 | hello everyone |
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| 04:44.29 | xlc | Overand: accepted |
| 04:44.37 | Overand | heh |
| 04:44.51 | fcep | sorry to repeat. if i uninstall a metapackage, ie: x-window-system, do the actual components of the metapackage (for example in this case, xfree86) get removed also? |
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| 04:46.28 | pimpwell | anyone can get me a direct link to sarge?? |
| 04:46.47 | bob2 | www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
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| 04:46.55 | Blitx | hey folks |
| 04:47.08 | Blitx | I just installed debian. |
| 04:47.14 | Overand | Awesome! |
| 04:47.18 | Blitx | No video though |
| 04:47.34 | Blitx | just blinks a few times and then gives up |
| 04:47.49 | Blitx | "Screens found but none usable" or something like that. |
| 04:47.52 | FraudulentPeanut | I am getting an error when I type startx |
| 04:48.00 | FraudulentPeanut | something to do with video |
| 04:48.48 | maher | !setup x |
| 04:49.01 | hetore | sarge is at http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/i386/ |
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| 04:49.10 | maher | !set up x |
| 04:49.11 | dpkg | set up x is probably To set up X in woody, sarge or sid, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86" (or x-window-system-core instead of xserver-xfree86 if you don't have it yet) Sometimes "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" works. dpkg-reconfigure will keep your old values as defaults each time you run it. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
| 04:49.16 | spo0nman | hetore: dvd? |
| 04:49.21 | dur | is it safe to delete all the file in tmp ? |
| 04:49.34 | hetore | spo0nman: nope theyre ISOs |
| 04:49.48 | topsoil | Is it possible to have dhcpd running on eth0, eth0:0, and eth0:1, and have the dhcpd.conf determine based on mac address, what lease to give to the client? Currently when a client tries to grab a dhcp lease, dhcpd ignores the host declaration for the machine on eth0:0 and just assigns an ip on eth0. Am I doing something wrong, or is it just not possible to do what I want to do? |
| 04:49.49 | spo0nman | hetore: where to find the iso for the dvd? |
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| 04:50.03 | hetore | spo0nman: im not sure |
| 04:50.23 | spo0nman | !dvd |
| 04:50.23 | dpkg | i guess dvd is use xine or ogle to play video DVDs |
| 04:50.36 | Blitx | Any idea how to fix my video? |
| 04:50.43 | Blitx | "No screens found" |
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| 04:51.02 | hetore | spo0nman: try here: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/rc2/ |
| 04:51.17 | Eagle101 | Blitx: you have to run XF86Config |
| 04:51.24 | spo0nman | :) |
| 04:51.27 | FraudulentPeanut | how do i search for the directory that the kernel headers are installed to |
| 04:51.34 | hetore | beware tho, you have to use jigdo |
| 04:51.43 | xlc | topsoil: you can define fixed ip |
| 04:52.06 | xlc | topsoil: 's via the hardware ethernet 00:00...; statement. |
| 04:52.14 | timzter | how would I configure apache such that whenever it a request comes in such as http://www.myserver.com/foo/bar/whatever.html, it automatically redirects to http://www.someotherserver.com/foo/bar/whatever.html ? |
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| 04:52.40 | mqa | hey all, what's wrong when kdm says "insecure session" and doesn't login (happent to a friend of mine) |
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| 04:53.09 | xlc | mqa: probably your xauth key does not fit. |
| 04:53.17 | topsoil | xlc: i have a fixed address for "mycomp" with the hardware ethernet programed in.. fixed address - 192.168.2.2 (eth0:0 network -- eth0 is 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0). When i try and get a lease from dhcpd it assigns a 192.168.1.x ip instead of 192.168.2.2 |
| 04:53.32 | FraudulentPeanut | how do i search for the directory that the kernel headers are installed to |
| 04:53.34 | Flimzy | Does anyone here have experience with an Silicon Image SIL/CMD680 PCI IDE controller? I have two CD-ROM devices attached to it, and am geting 4x-6x speeds, even after playing with hdparm a bit. |
| 04:54.09 | malex|home | Hi, which player is capable of playing monkey audio (.ape) files, or at least what can I use to unpack them to .wav under linux? |
| 04:54.17 | xlc | topsoil: recheck your configuration file. |
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| 04:55.03 | xlc | Flimzy: i have, and it works fine for me, with harddisks, though. |
| 04:55.06 | tobehz | timzter: #apache |
| 04:55.33 | RenegadeCanuck | i'm having troubles installing my network drivers (I know I need the RLT8139 module) |
| 04:55.35 | chealer | FraudulentPeanut: dpkg -L pkgname |
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| 04:55.51 | FraudulentPeanut | thank you |
| 04:56.25 | tobehz | Is there any way to change AGP modes? All I see when openGL drivers are loaded is Mesa R200 *AGP 1x* and I know my card can do 2x and 4x, and 1x limits teh bandwidth quite a bit. |
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| 04:56.46 | Flimzy | xlc: 'k |
| 04:56.48 | AlexW | Hi All! |
| 04:56.56 | topsoil | xlc: i've re-checked, and re-arranged several times with no luck. Do you know if it IS possible, or, are you just assuming it would be possible? |
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| 04:57.04 | chealer | Blitx: avoid XF86config, use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:57.05 | sky0 | RenegadeCanuck: 8139too |
| 04:57.11 | Flimzy | xlc: Did you have to tune the driver or hdparm, or the included Windows-only tuning software to get max performance from your disks? |
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| 04:57.30 | RenegadeCanuck | when i try to install my network card drivers (int eh Debian setup) it gives me an arror saying "/lib/modules/2.2.20-idepci/net/8139too.o: int_module: Device or resource busy" |
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| 04:57.50 | RenegadeCanuck | so ya, the 8139too |
| 04:58.11 | Blitx | tried it--still same error |
| 04:58.17 | xlc | topsoil: i dont know about your eth0:0 statement. but the rest should work fine. |
| 04:58.23 | Blitx | screens found but none have a usable configuration |
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| 04:58.32 | tobehz | !x |
| 04:58.32 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 04:58.35 | tobehz | err |
| 04:58.39 | tobehz | that's not it ;x |
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| 04:59.12 | tobehz | !setup x |
| 04:59.16 | tobehz | wtf >.< |
| 04:59.26 | tobehz | Blitx: /msg apt setup x |
| 04:59.27 | topsoil | xlc: ok, yeah, it works fine provided i just have one subnet/interface.. which means, i'm probably SOL and it probably isn't possible. Thanks for the help. |
| 04:59.41 | xlc | Flimzy: its probably a good idea to try hdparm |
| 05:00.14 | Flimzy | xlc: I've done that already... and it seemed to help... but performance is still far from satisfactory |
| 05:00.38 | AlexW | mp3blaster --sound-device=/dev/dsp *Tornado.mp3 |
| 05:00.38 | xlc | topsoil: okay, im sorry i cant help any further. |
| 05:00.40 | AlexW | works in root |
| 05:00.41 | maher | Flimzy: what throughput do you get with hdparm -tT |
| 05:00.46 | AlexW | but in a normal user it doesnt? |
| 05:00.56 | RenegadeCanuck | any ideas what could give me a Device or resource busy error when trying to install teh RLT8139too driver? |
| 05:01.12 | AlexW | mpg123 *.mp3 |
| 05:01.12 | AlexW | Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?) |
| 05:01.13 | maher | AlexW: you have a permissions problem - use strace to see where it fails |
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| 05:01.51 | AlexW | how do i do that |
| 05:02.01 | Flimzy | maher: heh... read() hit EOF - device too small |
| 05:02.08 | maher | AlexW: strace <command to use sound> |
| 05:02.12 | AlexW | open("/dev/dsp", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) |
| 05:02.17 | dur | is it safe to remove files from /tmp and if so what is the command to remove all of them all once? TIA |
| 05:02.27 | AlexW | si |
| 05:02.29 | maher | AlexW: what does ls -l /dev/dsp say |
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| 05:02.40 | AlexW | jetdesalvo@ramzi:~$ ls -l /dev/dsp |
| 05:02.40 | AlexW | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Mar 15 2002 /dev/dsp |
| 05:02.43 | Flimzy | maher: they're CD-ROM devices. I did do an audio ripping test w/ cdparanoia... got ~4-5x. With the same drive on the motherboard's IDE controller I was getting ~32x before. |
| 05:02.56 | FraudulentPeanut | Maher: I just installed the headers and the source and I cannot find it still |
| 05:03.04 | Flimzy | I'm gonna reboot to 'doze and play with their silly software to see if it's of any use |
| 05:03.04 | Flimzy | brb |
| 05:03.10 | maher | Flimzy: ok - i dunno about cdroms |
| 05:03.14 | AlexW | jetdesalvo@ramzi:~$ /dev/dsp |
| 05:03.15 | AlexW | su: /dev/dsp: Permission denied |
| 05:03.17 | FraudulentPeanut | what was the apt command to search? |
| 05:03.19 | AlexW | hrrm? |
| 05:03.29 | sky0 | RenegadeCanuck: did you try other drivers before? maybe you forgot to unload them all? Only used this driver on 2.4 kernels; there were a number of 8139 revisision (hardware); maybe the 2.2 driver is too old for your card; any reasons not to go for a 2.4.x kernel? |
| 05:03.29 | maher | FraudulentPeanut: apt-cache search / dpkg -L packagename |
| 05:03.32 | MrKeuner | hi, what URI should I specify to print to a cupsd on machine A from cupsys on machine B on the same local network? both cups have default debian configurations. |
| 05:03.36 | tobehz | AlexW: add that user to the audio group |
| 05:03.47 | AlexW | how so/ |
| 05:03.50 | RenegadeCanuck | its int eh Debian Linux install |
| 05:04.08 | tobehz | adduser user audio |
| 05:04.15 | RenegadeCanuck | so i can't realyl do any updates and my card is pretty old |
| 05:04.22 | RenegadeCanuck | its a DFE-530 |
| 05:04.35 | RenegadeCanuck | and Dlink says to use that driver |
| 05:04.54 | RenegadeCanuck | or at least 8139 |
| 05:05.31 | chealer | MrKeuner: mine is ipp://name:631/printers/printername |
| 05:05.56 | mqa | xlc: my friend had kde installed then she installed gnome and funny things started to happen, (including this insecure session) |
| 05:06.00 | mqa | xlc: how can you fix it? |
| 05:06.16 | RenegadeCanuck | any wasy to use a downlaoded driver in the Debian Linux install? |
| 05:06.19 | booyaa | chealer can you substitute an ip address for the "name" part? |
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| 05:06.51 | AlexW | thanks |
| 05:06.57 | xlc | mqa: the details are too blurry, im sorry. |
| 05:07.09 | chealer | booyaa: I'd be surprised if you couldn't |
| 05:07.33 | mqa | haha |
| 05:07.46 | Blitx | I tried apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86 and followed the wizards. Same error. |
| 05:08.02 | sky0 | mqa: log out of X, got into home directory and run "rm -rf .Xauthority .gnome* .kde*" |
| 05:08.03 | maher | Blitx: what is you graphics chipset |
| 05:08.10 | Blitx | TNT1 |
| 05:08.20 | LoneElf | Im having troubles getting tomcat to work properly in debian, anyone familiar with setting it up? |
| 05:08.31 | hetore | Does alsa sound come with sarge by default? |
| 05:08.53 | RenegadeCanuck | sky0: i'm trying to install the network driver in Debian, and i don't thinkt that my card is too new for the driver, but jsut in case, is there any way to use a driver i downloaded onto a floppy? |
| 05:08.54 | xlc | LoneElf: install tomcat5, not the one from debian. |
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| 05:09.22 | LoneElf | hehe =) i think i just might end up doing that. |
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| 05:09.39 | RenegadeCanuck | sy0: i mean the Debian isntall |
| 05:09.43 | chealer | hetore: no |
| 05:09.57 | Flimzy | What is a reasonable UDMA and/or PIO mode for a CD-ROM drive? |
| 05:10.03 | maher | Blitx: what x driver did you pick |
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| 05:10.20 | Blitx | nv |
| 05:10.33 | Blitx | it is supposed to go down to the Riva128 even |
| 05:10.47 | blal | Is there a straightforward to detect which CPU type a computer has at runtime? I'm recompiling a kernel; I don't know what it's running. It's an older computer, and the choice is among the 3 types of (pre-P2) Pentiums in the kernel: -Classic, -MMX, or -Pro. |
| 05:11.06 | blal | er, Is there a straightforward way... |
| 05:11.12 | RenegadeCanuck | again, any way to isntall a driver i downloaded onto a floppy in debian install? |
| 05:11.19 | ledestin | blal: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 05:11.23 | xlc | blal: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 05:11.23 | maher | Blitx: did you say no to framebuffer |
| 05:11.25 | chealer | Blitx: X probably outputs more clues, you could paste that somewhere |
| 05:11.25 | sky0 | RenegadeCanuck: Chances of using a driver not created for your kernel are slim at best; you probably won't get it insmod/modprobe to load it to begin with. |
| 05:11.44 | Blitx | I said yes to framebuffer |
| 05:11.47 | Blitx | should I say no? |
| 05:11.49 | blal | ledestin : xlc : Oh yeah. Many thanks. |
| 05:11.55 | blal | -Pro it is. |
| 05:12.01 | jmstacey | Flimzy: You said I needed aliases to be compiled in the kernel to add mutliple IP addresses to a network device with ifconfig. Any idea where that would be in the kernel configuration? |
| 05:12.22 | Flimzy | jmstacey: in the network section... specifically under IP |
| 05:12.23 | maher | Blitx: what does it say in the set up x message? |
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| 05:12.47 | Blitx | maher what? |
| 05:12.58 | RenegadeCanuck | ok, then any commands or anything to get the included 8139too driver to work with my card? because this is the only card i have |
| 05:13.01 | cat | Blitx: say no to frame buffer |
| 05:13.16 | tbbw | i got a strange bug/error.... i updated from woody to sarge and when i try to login in x with my normal user or as root it says "login incorect" uuum wtf? i know i typed it right the last 10 times |
| 05:13.20 | jmstacey | Flimzy: IP: multicasting? |
| 05:13.26 | bucky | RenegadeCanuck, i googled -> insmod via-rhine options=28 |
| 05:13.27 | Flimzy | jmstacey: no |
| 05:13.36 | RenegadeCanuck | k, thanks |
| 05:13.36 | cat | tbbw: try again, or changed passwd |
| 05:13.45 | cat | or try login in on your terminal |
| 05:13.47 | tbbw | cat: already tryed that |
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| 05:14.10 | jmstacey | Flimzy: Hmm, then I'm not seeing anything relative. I'll try loading a new configuration for the kernel |
| 05:14.11 | tbbw | cat: in console it works fine |
| 05:14.22 | RenegadeCanuck | i'll look it up if this doesn't work |
| 05:14.25 | tbbw | cat: but not in x for some reson it worked in woody |
| 05:14.26 | cat | then ur gdm is messed up |
| 05:14.29 | RenegadeCanuck | thanks bucky and sky0 |
| 05:14.41 | tbbw | cat: how to reinstall? |
| 05:14.42 | cat | try using startx |
| 05:15.02 | cat | is gonna be the same, though if you reinstalling it or not |
| 05:15.02 | sky0 | RenegadeCanuck: bucky did the 'hard work' part ;-) |
| 05:15.07 | lightbright | Hi there. is there a way to see if my nic driver was compiled into my kernel? |
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| 05:15.31 | tbbw | cat: aaaaw :_) got any alcohole to drown my sorro in? ;) |
| 05:15.34 | Flimzy | jmstacey: relative? or relevant? |
| 05:15.41 | cat | hmmmmmm not really |
| 05:15.48 | tbbw | cat: just my luck! ;) |
| 05:15.48 | lightbright | ok. |
| 05:15.57 | jmstacey | Flimzy relevant |
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| 05:16.11 | jmstacey | Flimzy: or ntohgin about aliases for IP's.... |
| 05:16.26 | Flimzy | jmstacey: I'll reboot to Linux in a moment, and I'll find it for you |
| 05:16.44 | smutzAgain | Anyone: when I reboot, I get a text login console and a message saying that kdm is already started... but it isn't. Does anyone have any idea how to fix such a problem? |
| 05:17.36 | maher | smurfd: if you do ctrl-alt-f7 do you see kdm? |
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| 05:17.50 | lightbright | smutzAgain: rm /tmp/.X0-lock |
| 05:17.57 | lightbright | i think... |
| 05:18.05 | cat | tbbw: but try ur startx |
| 05:18.07 | cat | or try kdm |
| 05:18.37 | lightbright | if you statx sometimes you get this message that says its been locked |
| 05:18.46 | lightbright | and tells you to remove the lock file. |
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| 05:20.09 | tbbw | cat: startx works |
| 05:20.21 | tbbw | cat: but i want a nice login screen :( |
| 05:20.33 | tbbw | any replacement? |
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| 05:20.34 | lightbright | kill it. and reboot |
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| 05:20.51 | cat | them try kdm? |
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| 05:20.56 | dob | hi |
| 05:21.04 | tbbw | lightbright: that reboot word stings in my eyes! |
| 05:21.04 | dob | how can i install gcc 3.3.x on woody? |
| 05:21.06 | jmstacey | Any luck Flimzy? |
| 05:21.15 | lightbright | lol |
| 05:21.34 | tbbw | dob: do like me upgrade to sarge and you will get it in the prosess |
| 05:21.44 | cat | !info gcc woody |
| 05:21.47 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler.), section devel, is standard. Version: 2:2.95.4-14 (woody), Packaged size: 3 kB, Installed size: 52 kB |
| 05:22.02 | cat | try apt-get install gcc dob |
| 05:22.08 | lightbright | tbbw: I've had my kids kill the power on my puter before. then x locks me out cause the tmp lock file is still there. |
| 05:22.31 | Flimzy | jmstacey: what kenrel version are you using? |
| 05:22.33 | smutzAgain | lightbright: thanks! |
| 05:22.40 | dob | tbbw: i prefer to keep woody |
| 05:22.52 | lightbright | smutzAgain: it worked? |
| 05:22.58 | smutzAgain | cat: startx works... but i want it to start on boot |
| 05:23.25 | tbbw | lightbright: hmmm that makes sense :P |
| 05:23.25 | jmstacey | Flimzy: currently 2.2 but I will upgrade to 2.4.29 when I recompile with the necassary network support |
| 05:23.26 | smutzAgain | lightbright: well... the guy who's laptop it is took it and ran just before I could try... I'll have to try tomorrow morning... I took a note |
| 05:23.45 | Blitx | how can I change my screenbuffer? I can't use that config wizard because it goes to like 112KHz |
| 05:23.49 | tbbw | dob: so did i just installed sarge 10min ago |
| 05:23.55 | Flimzy | jmstacey: oh, let me see if i have a 2.4 tree still |
| 05:24.01 | lightbright | smutzAgain: good luck |
| 05:24.08 | Flimzy | jmstacey: I use 2.6 now |
| 05:24.18 | tbbw | dob: if u dont want sarge then happy deb hunting on debians homepage |
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| 05:24.34 | jmstacey | Flimzy: Maybe the 2.4 kernel isn't capable of this? My friend who runs 2.6 can also do it without trouble |
| 05:24.52 | Flimzy | jmstacey: No, I did it back in 2.4 at least... probably 2.4 |
| 05:24.53 | Flimzy | er... probably 2.2 as well |
| 05:24.56 | maher | Blitx: ? do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and say no to fb |
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| 05:25.37 | AlexW | find /mnt/music | grep drop | mp3blaster |
| 05:25.38 | lightbright | anyone I just compiled a kernal for the first time using make menuconfig. is there a way to see if any nic was configured |
| 05:25.40 | AlexW | would that work? |
| 05:25.42 | gameover | anyone know how to get direct rendering with the official ATi drivers? |
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| 05:27.04 | lightbright | I've got the sources for my nic. maybe i should compile them and recompile my kernal? |
| 05:27.12 | lightbright | urmmm kernel |
| 05:27.19 | Ikarus | lightbright: neh |
| 05:27.32 | Ikarus | lightbright: realtek just distributes the kernel driver |
| 05:28.04 | Ikarus | (btw, isn't it odd that the cheapest brands are doing more to support Linux then the average brands) |
| 05:28.15 | lightbright | ok... does it matter if I'm using the pro100 |
| 05:28.22 | lightbright | no kidding. |
| 05:28.35 | Ikarus | hrm, am I out of sync |
| 05:28.40 | lightbright | i mean it in an agreeable tone. |
| 05:28.55 | Flimzy | jmstacey: I'm wondering if it's automatically included in 2.4+ |
| 05:28.59 | Flimzy | jmstacey: maybe it was only had to be explicitly stated in 2.2 and earlier |
| 05:29.22 | Flimzy | jmstacey: from Documentation/networking/alias.txt: IP-Aliases are avail if CONFIG_INET (`standard' IPv4 networking) |
| 05:29.22 | Flimzy | is configured in the kernel. |
| 05:29.28 | Flimzy | jmstacey: Try just upgrading to 2.4, then see if it works. |
| 05:29.37 | Ikarus | ESEEKERROR, No caffeine |
| 05:29.49 | jmstacey | Flimzy: will do, I'll get back to you once it's done :-) |
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| 05:30.17 | jmstacey | Flimzy: Oh, should I use my current configuration or use the default one that is built when I run make menuconfig? |
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| 05:30.37 | lightbright | Ikarus: I found my nic listed in the make menu but after rebooting I still cant ping nuthin. |
| 05:30.46 | FraudulentPeanut | ok i now got the kernal source but the Nvidia installer is still saying that it is invalid |
| 05:30.58 | Ikarus | lightbright: module or compiled in ? |
| 05:31.03 | AlexW | find /mnt/music | grep drop | mp3blaster |
| 05:31.14 | lightbright | Ikarus: compiled |
| 05:31.19 | FraudulentPeanut | what should i do |
| 05:31.24 | Ikarus | lightbright: check dmesg | less |
| 05:31.42 | AlexW | mp3blaster {/mnt/music | grep drop} |
| 05:31.45 | AlexW | how can i do this |
| 05:31.54 | lightbright | Ikarus: thanx... i faintly remember there was something like that available. |
| 05:32.01 | lightbright | I'll do it. |
| 05:32.11 | Flimzy | jmstacey: probably neither... you probably should customize it |
| 05:32.22 | Ikarus | AlexW: mp3blaster ` find /mnt/music -name "*drop*"` |
| 05:32.29 | AlexW | ahh thanks :P |
| 05:32.52 | AlexW | /mnt/music/D/Dj is not a valid audio file! |
| 05:32.54 | AlexW | hrrm :P |
| 05:33.09 | AlexW | spaces |
| 05:33.41 | hetore | find /mnt/music -name *drop* -exec mp3blaster \{\} \; |
| 05:33.50 | Ikarus | hetore: you don't want to do that |
| 05:34.06 | Ikarus | hetore: a better idea is to -exec a program that add shell escapes |
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| 05:34.37 | FraudulentPeanut | can anyone help me? |
| 05:34.39 | hetore | I havent been paying attention |
| 05:34.50 | lightbright | Ikarus: i did dmesg | grep eth0 and found e100: eth0: e100_prob: addr bla bla, irq 20, MAC addr blab blah... |
| 05:34.58 | Ikarus | lightbright: then ifconfig eth0 |
| 05:35.29 | gurubie | I compiled a new Kernel and there's no initrd and it will mot boot even though I compiled ext3 in. What do I need to do next? |
| 05:35.54 | Ikarus | gurubie: half brick in a sock and beat your computer up ? |
| 05:36.12 | Flimzy | guru: well... a good place to start would be with the error message you get |
| 05:36.27 | guru | eh? |
| 05:36.42 | Flimzy | s/guru/gurubie/ |
| 05:36.53 | Flimzy | sorry guru |
| 05:36.53 | Flimzy | darn nick auto-completion |
| 05:36.54 | gurubie | Ikarus: Ah, that's my problem. I used a whole brick. |
| 05:37.34 | lightbright | Ikarus: ifconfig eth0 shows Link encap:Ethernet and some other info but no packets RX or TX or IP addresses |
| 05:37.58 | gurubie | it will not boot VFS I think it said. |
| 05:38.20 | Flimzy | Is there a standard place to put hdparm configurations to be run during bootup? |
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| 05:38.35 | Ikarus | lightbright: then ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 or what ever IP you want |
| 05:38.42 | gurubie | It needs an initrd right? I thought it would be automatically made. What happened? |
| 05:38.46 | Ikarus | Flimzy: the package has a special script |
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| 05:39.00 | Ikarus | gurubie: I have no idea, I avoid initrd's like the plague |
| 05:39.33 | gurubie | Flimzy: Like GRUB? |
| 05:39.39 | FraudulentPeanut | how do i compile a 2.4 kernel |
| 05:40.15 | chealer | FraudulentPeanut: don't use nvidia-installer |
| 05:40.18 | Ikarus | FraudulentPeanut: make-kpkg kernel_image |
| 05:40.18 | gurubie | Well I want to load bootsplash next and use initrd.splash |
| 05:40.18 | chealer | !nvidia |
| 05:40.19 | dpkg | nvidia is, like, To learn how to install nvidia drivers on your Debian system see 'nvidia-howto' or maybe 'nvidia debs'. That should explain all you need to know. http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html . "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 05:40.25 | Flimzy | gurubie: if GRUB gives you an error message, then yes. |
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| 05:40.44 | Ikarus | LOL @ interface changing |
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| 05:41.22 | FraudulentPeanut | that didnt work |
| 05:41.25 | B|ackDayz | hello :-) |
| 05:41.30 | chealer | FraudulentPeanut: what didn't? |
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| 05:41.38 | lightbright | Ikarus: I'm pining my gateway!! |
| 05:41.44 | gurubie | I'm not really understanding the need for initial ram disk to boot if I selected ext3 compliled in. I'm new to initrd management, Help? |
| 05:42.12 | lightbright | Ikarus: what stumps me is I put some settings in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:42.17 | Flimzy | What is a reasonable UDMA mode for a CD-ROM drive? |
| 05:42.20 | B|ackDayz | (X) 02 Mad Season X-Ray Mind ~ 05:13 (P)Laya |
| 05:42.22 | Ikarus | gurubie: initrd's are for example for bootdisks or diskless systems that have no idea what controllers they need and don't want kernel bulk |
| 05:42.33 | Ikarus | Flimzy: 66 ? |
| 05:42.48 | Flimzy | Ikarus: Uhm... the highest I've heard of is 6 |
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| 05:43.11 | Jonny_Depp | hello |
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| 05:43.28 | lightbright | Ikarus: Big Thanks! I'll do some reading up. I'm over the panic now. |
| 05:43.37 | Ikarus | Flimzy: 66 is iirc multiword ultra dma 4 |
| 05:43.41 | gurubie | Ikarus: SO I guess Sarge came with an initrd so we could use what ever fs? |
| 05:43.53 | Ikarus | gurubie: controller, not fs |
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| 05:43.59 | Whistleboy | anyone know how to make Thunderbird follow links straight to Firefox without going through Konqueror? |
| 05:44.12 | AlexW | how would i make a full directory listing |
| 05:44.16 | Flimzy | Ikarus: If hdparm shows capabilities of 0-4... should I attempt to use 4? Or should I stick with the default of 2? |
| 05:44.29 | Ikarus | Flimzy: you should stick with it |
| 05:44.39 | gurubie | ...and I infer that bootsplash uses initrd.splash to display pre-fs? |
| 05:44.43 | Flimzy | Ikarus: okay |
| 05:44.44 | sgeigerb` | Whistleboy: this would probably work: BROWSER=firefox; export BROWSER |
| 05:44.49 | Ikarus | Flimzy: CD-roms don't benefit at all from super high modes |
| 05:44.50 | AlexW | as in so that the file names have /directory/filename |
| 05:44.52 | AlexW | infront |
| 05:44.56 | sgeigerb` | Whistleboy: and so would this: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
| 05:45.01 | Agrajag- | Whistleboy: if you're using kde, i believe it depends on the kde version, newer versions o fkde let you set a browser |
| 05:45.07 | sgeigerb` | Whistleboy: ls -l /etc/alternatives/|grep brows |
| 05:45.17 | Flimzy | Ikarus: Should I enable 32-bit IO_Support and unmaskirq (which are both off by default)? |
| 05:45.23 | Whistleboy | I suspect is is a KDE thing. It happened when I did an upgrade recently |
| 05:45.35 | guestish | transcode is great, but it doesnt support aac |
| 05:45.36 | guestish | =( |
| 05:46.03 | Whistleboy | Agrajag-: any idea where that settting is in KDE? |
| 05:46.04 | chealer | Whistleboy: no it's not. I think it was mentionned in the changelog. listen to sgeigerb` |
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| 05:46.12 | sgeigerb` | Whistleboy: try my tips. |
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| 05:46.43 | Whistleboy | sgeigerb`: yep, it is pointing to konq |
| 05:46.47 | Blitx | Good news. I've got video with framebuffer off. |
| 05:46.55 | Whistleboy | Why did it change? Did kde change it during an upgrade? |
| 05:47.03 | Blitx | However, I can't seem to figure out how to configure my network card. |
| 05:47.15 | B|ackDayz | how do you change from gdm to kdm in command prompt? |
| 05:47.16 | sgeigerbot | Whistleboy: *shrugs* |
| 05:47.40 | sgeigerbot | B|ackDayz: apt-get install kdm |
| 05:47.42 | B|ackDayz | (X) 03 Mad Season River of Deceit ~ 05:04 (P)Laya |
| 05:47.49 | gurubie | Well why did my new kernel stop at can't vfs and such (after saying no initrd which I stopped it from loading (asking for) with GRUB edit. Is there (anouther) complie setting I'm missing to get it booting? Do I need to biuld a initrd.img somehow? |
| 05:48.11 | B|ackDayz | nice |
| 05:48.20 | B|ackDayz | and that will automatically replace it? |
| 05:48.24 | Blitx | How do I setup my network card? Like the DHCP setting and DNS servers and such |
| 05:48.40 | Whistleboy | sgeigerbot: Thanks to everyone. IRC is the best! |
| 05:48.41 | B|ackDayz | cuz My prob is...Deb is only booting up in command prompt |
| 05:48.59 | sgeigerbot | !+best |
| 05:48.59 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
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| 05:50.23 | gurubie | Blitx: Make sure DHCP3client is installed. Do a man interfaces to write your two line auto eth0 config and type ifconfig eth0 up. |
| 05:50.39 | Flimzy | Is there any reason that an IDE _controller_ would make CD audio ripping slower than reading data from a CD? |
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| 05:50.48 | B|ackDayz | once I change from gdm from kdm and reboot.....will it take Me straight to the desktop from there? |
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| 05:51.14 | zakame | hi all |
| 05:51.32 | Flimzy | B|ackDayz: not likely... since gdm and kdm are generally used to show you a log-in screen |
| 05:51.36 | Blitx | gurubie I'm a debian nub. How do I do that? |
| 05:52.08 | deadcat | !noob |
| 05:52.08 | dpkg | it has been said that noob is < greycat> DarkCoiote: When people say "I'm a noob", or the equivalent, it's an EXCUSE for them to be LAZY and avoid doing any thinking or reading. |
| 05:52.09 | gurubie | Blitx: What version, setup etc |
| 05:52.09 | drac | Can I change unstable -> sarge from sources.list without any problems? Can I still do dist-upgrade or upgrade? |
| 05:52.13 | B|ackDayz | why is it then when I boot up Deb..that it's just allowing Me to goto command prompt? |
| 05:52.24 | Blitx | gurubie v3.1 RC1 |
| 05:52.34 | gurubie | Are we taling about eth0 |
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| 05:52.41 | Blitx | should be |
| 05:52.42 | gurubie | talking |
| 05:52.50 | Flimzy | B|ackDayz: Maybe because that's what it's set up to do. Or perhaps because X is misconfigured and unable to start. |
| 05:52.50 | B|ackDayz | (X) 04 Mad Season I'm Above ~ 05:45 (P)Laya |
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| 05:53.01 | Blitx | I can't use the net/ping network machines so I was wondering how to configure the card |
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| 05:53.20 | bucky | B|ackDayz, log in as your user and type startx |
| 05:53.36 | gurubie | Blitx: One ethernet card (eth0)? |
| 05:53.41 | Blitx | yes |
| 05:53.46 | sgeigerbot | I'm trying to do ppp over ssh, but I can't "modprobe ppp". It looks to me as if perhaps the documentation is out of date and that I need to use "modprobe ppp_generic" Is that correct? |
| 05:54.07 | B|ackDayz | so...the problem doesnt have anything to do with whether I'm using gdm or kdm..correct? |
| 05:54.41 | deadcat | sgeigerbot: yes. |
| 05:54.55 | sgeigerbot | ~kill deadcat for the 9th time |
| 05:54.57 | apt | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxpositrino gun at deadcat for the 9th time |
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| 05:55.28 | deadcat | ~kill sgeigerbot for the 15th time |
| 05:55.30 | apt | ACTION shoots a excited pseudomeson gun at sgeigerbot for the 15th time |
| 05:55.43 | deadcat | muhahaha |
| 05:55.48 | gurubie | Blitx: auto eth0 <NEXT LINE> iface eth0 inet dhcp <-make sure this is in /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 05:55.52 | bucky | sgeigerbot, yes ppp_generic |
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| 05:56.10 | bucky | then it will load all the other happy ppp_* modules |
| 05:56.27 | deadcat | Blitx: sudo dhclient eth0 |
| 05:56.35 | sgeigerbot | deadcat & bucky: Then why am I getting this message: "/usr/sbin/pppd: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because |
| 05:56.35 | sgeigerbot | the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not |
| 05:56.35 | sgeigerbot | included in the kernel configuration. If PPP was included as a |
| 05:56.35 | sgeigerbot | module, try `/sbin/modprobe -v ppp'. If that fails, check that |
| 05:56.35 | sgeigerbot | ppp.o exists in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/net. |
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| 05:56.36 | jmstacey | Sill here Flimzy? |
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| 05:56.47 | jmstacey | *still |
| 05:56.47 | sgeigerbot | Did you guys get all 4 lines? |
| 05:56.58 | bucky | sgeigerbot, in 2.6.x ? |
| 05:57.00 | sky0 | sgeigerbot: I can't help to wonder: why would you do ppp over ssh? This seems like a hack to achieve what (for example) OpenVPN is made for? |
| 05:57.19 | sgeigerbot | bucky: yes |
| 05:57.33 | bucky | your right its outdated docs |
| 05:57.45 | deadcat | sgeigerbot: aint nobody gonna steal your credit card over a slow ass ppp line (= |
| 05:57.59 | sgeigerbot | sky0: It looks like a simple trick that would be helpful in a jam...and I've not been using openvpn. |
| 05:58.16 | sgeigerbot | deadcat: I'm just trying to get some simple vpn functionality. |
| 05:58.22 | deadcat | (= |
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| 05:58.39 | B|ackDayz | (X) 04 Mad Season I'm Above ~ 05:45 (P)Laya |
| 05:58.43 | bucky | maybe sgeigerbot is really using mppe and doesn't want to tell us |
| 05:58.52 | deadcat | B|ackDayz: shut the fuck up moron |
| 05:59.14 | sky0 | sgeigerbot: if you have control over both ends, by all means try openvpn; real easy to setup (compared to ipsec) |
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| 05:59.18 | bucky | kinda like riding a honda with your harley friends |
| 05:59.43 | bbhill | my raps i hook em up like honda civics |
| 05:59.44 | jmstacey | Flimzy: I got the kernel updated to 2.4.29 and it worked. I can now add multiple IP's to network devices, so Aliases does come with 2.4+ kernels. Thanks for the help :-) |
| 06:01.31 | deadcat | i am afraid i cant do that sgeigerbot |
| 06:01.42 | chealer | does someone know why nvidia-glx was removed from testing? |
| 06:01.49 | bucky | i'm afaid i can't do that dave |
| 06:02.09 | bucky | HAL.. open that door |
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| 06:02.18 | deadcat | chealer: removed from testing or from your box? |
| 06:02.29 | chealer | from testing |
| 06:02.33 | deadcat | bucky: (= HAL was running windows. |
| 06:02.45 | bucky | i think so |
| 06:03.02 | deadcat | it crashed while trying to open the damn door |
| 06:03.31 | bucky | HAL regressed back to a win 3.1 program went dave started taking his chips out |
| 06:03.38 | rob0 | my old p166 was named HAL ... he had the f00f bug |
| 06:04.18 | deadcat | never seen the movie |
| 06:04.24 | N|ckzDaOne | (X) 04 Mad Season I'm Above ~ 05:45 (P)Laya |
| 06:04.29 | sgeigerbot | oh...here's a baddasssss ascii diagram: http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/Projects/vpn/ Which program was used to make that? |
| 06:04.41 | deadcat | N|ckzDaOne: shut the fuck up you fucking dumb fuck. |
| 06:04.54 | deadcat | !op N|ckzDaOne is spamming |
| 06:04.54 | dpkg | okay, deadcat |
| 06:05.15 | deadcat | anyone. strike that mother fucker.. damn |
| 06:05.33 | deadcat | N|ckzDaOne: what the fuck is wrong with your? we dont give a fuck that you are a "playa" |
| 06:06.29 | guestish | at least the new realplayer has no advertisements in it |
| 06:06.47 | deadcat | (= |
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| 06:09.05 | chealer | FraudulentPeanut: so what was going wrong? |
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| 06:10.13 | pourriture | HEY! ... this is not a tech question ... just want to shoot the breeze ... how far is sarge from being the stable feed? |
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| 06:11.40 | JoshTriplett | pourriture: /msg dpkg wwsr |
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| 06:11.56 | ludi | what package does network-admin belong to |
| 06:11.59 | JoshTriplett | pourriture: Short answer: roughly 30 days after testing-security support works. |
| 06:12.11 | pourriture | I find myself more and more using sarge in situations that I would have used woody for ... and with an official installer and whatnot ... I guess the whole xorg issue is yet to be resolved |
| 06:12.25 | nvz | ludi: packages.debian.org is good for those kinds of questions. |
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| 06:13.16 | JoshTriplett | pourriture: Actually, it basically *is* resolved: after sarge releases, it should be easy enough to switch to xorg, since the work is basically done. |
| 06:13.19 | pourriture | JoshTriplett, you miss my point ... like potato was once stable ... and woody was once testing ... |
| 06:13.37 | JoshTriplett | pourriture: I know your point exactly. |
| 06:13.49 | JoshTriplett | pourriture: You're asking when Sarge will be stable, and etch will be the new testing. |
| 06:14.23 | hello_world | ? |
| 06:14.25 | pourriture | JoshTriplett, ok ... that wasn't apparent from your first anwser ... I guess I just misunderstood |
| 06:14.39 | nvz | hello_world: yep |
| 06:14.46 | nvz | hello_world: you made it. |
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| 06:15.32 | nvz | this hp is fucking loud |
| 06:15.58 | wegi | is it possible to start vimdiff instead of diff|less on conffileupgrade at the prompt with d? |
| 06:15.58 | nvz | I think its that quantum bigfoot I put in there |
| 06:16.44 | nvz | I am gonna hafta put another 5 1/4" bracket in there to hold a smaller and more quiet modern drive |
| 06:16.45 | pourriture | nvz, quantum bigfoot ... hope you have current backups :) |
| 06:16.58 | nvz | pfft backups. |
| 06:17.04 | nvz | its quicker to reinstall |
| 06:17.11 | mwilson | Someone else who thinks xorg is somehow important? |
| 06:17.22 | nvz | its a system drive not a data drive |
| 06:17.25 | pourriture | nvz, but what about all the porn you will lose :) |
| 06:17.28 | nvz | its only 9gb |
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| 06:17.39 | carnage | anyone use captive-ntfs? |
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| 06:17.49 | JoshTriplett | carnage: I'm sure someone does, yes. :) |
| 06:17.59 | JoshTriplett | carnage: After all, the project continues to exist. :) |
| 06:18.03 | nvz | I lost all my porn a long time ago.. and if I went back to where I found it, it would still be there |
| 06:18.07 | sgeigerbot | mwilson: transparent windows... that's important. |
| 06:18.14 | sgeigerbot | </sarcasm> |
| 06:18.18 | nvz | its a real amazing concept really |
| 06:18.37 | pourriture | carnage, used captive-ntfs exactly 3 times to recover data from corrupt 2k/xp boxes |
| 06:18.38 | mwilson | sgeigerbot: I've got better things to do with CPU cycles |
| 06:18.51 | pourriture | carnage, worked like a charm |
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| 06:19.08 | JoshTriplett | mwilson: Admittedly, there are actually real benefits. |
| 06:19.12 | nvz | hell you install winders and the porn just comes to you |
| 06:19.14 | carnage | is it the best way to gain write access on an ntfs partition in linux? |
| 06:19.14 | sgeigerbot | mwilson: that puts you in the (intelligent) minority |
| 06:19.35 | mwilson | JoshTriplett: For transparency? Not likely. |
| 06:19.43 | JoshTriplett | mwilson: No, of xorg. |
| 06:19.50 | JoshTriplett | mwilson: For example, massive acceleration of RENDER on R100s. |
| 06:19.56 | pourriture | carnage, I would never use it on a WORKING ntfs partition ... but as a last resort on a bad install |
| 06:19.59 | nvz | carnage: init 6, then boot windows |
| 06:20.02 | sgeigerbot | carnage: I'm not sure I understand the question, but I think you are asking for "captive ntfs" |
| 06:20.05 | mwilson | JoshTriplett: Nothing worth losing any sleep over. |
| 06:20.12 | netsplit | I have xfs running, and have installed all fonts I found relevant in apt, but firefox still won't show any Chinese characters. What gives? |
| 06:20.15 | JoshTriplett | mwilson: Agreed. |
| 06:20.19 | sgeigerbot | carnage: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ for details. |
| 06:20.59 | mwilson | JoshTriplett: Depite the clueless who think they just absolutely HAVE to have a higher version number than everyone else. |
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| 06:21.11 | nvz | yeah I dont know if having that bigfoot in here I will be able to sleep |
| 06:21.15 | carnage | yeah.. i just need to be able to write to my ntfs partition... i can get read access with mount by default but i can't get write access |
| 06:21.25 | nvz | that thing has got to go |
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| 06:22.06 | nvz | this hp got my 120gb in here and is kinda a fileserver so it has to stay on. |
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| 06:22.37 | sky0 | netsplit: look at the output of "xlsfonts" and play with "xfontsel"; see if you have unicode or fonts for the chinese encoding available to the xserver. |
| 06:22.40 | pourriture | mwilson, BAH ... higher version number == BETTER ... just look how much more easiness they built into AOL 9.0 over AOL 8.0 |
| 06:22.54 | netsplit | sky0: Thank you. |
| 06:22.57 | mwilson | Where's simonrvn when I want to talk to him... |
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| 06:23.13 | sky0 | sky0: you are welcome |
| 06:23.14 | kds | Hello all. |
| 06:23.34 | AlexW | whats the max packet size for ping |
| 06:23.44 | sky0 | hm; replying to myself, guess it's time to sleep |
| 06:23.54 | kds | I'm trying to do an apt-get upgrade but there are packages which are kept back. |
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| 06:24.10 | mwilson | kds: So? Why is that a bad thing? |
| 06:24.17 | sigp239 | I can't find which package the program "network-admin" belongs to |
| 06:24.28 | kds | One of them is kaddressbook. If I try to do apt-get -s install kaddressbook, I get suggested packages as spamassassin clamav, etc. |
| 06:24.30 | Guerin | !kept back |
| 06:24.30 | dpkg | kept back is probably when packages have not been upgraded, even though newer versions are available, because it cannot resolve dependencies for the newer version, or when you told it to hold packages, or when you used "upgrade" instead of "dist-upgrade", or the safest way to resolve this is perhaps to 'apt-get install <kept-package>' and it will resolve stuff for you.. |
| 06:24.45 | Bazil | I'm trying to install mysql-server let's say by apt-get but it's not working |
| 06:24.53 | mwilson | kds: We're all waiting for you to describe the actual problem. |
| 06:24.57 | Bazil | it says that perl it's not installed |
| 06:25.05 | Bazil | Depends: perl but it is not going to be installed |
| 06:25.13 | Guerin | Bazil: what exactly is the line you're using to install? |
| 06:25.24 | Bazil | apt-get install mysql-server |
| 06:25.26 | Guerin | Bazil: you have a horribly broken sources.list |
| 06:25.37 | Guerin | Bazil: fix it by using apt-setup |
| 06:25.40 | guestish | mwilson: so, how are you this evening? |
| 06:25.43 | sigp239 | need help finding out which package "network-admin" belongs to |
| 06:25.45 | Bazil | ok |
| 06:25.54 | Bazil | I will check it out |
| 06:25.55 | mwilson | kds: So far, all we're hearing is that the dependency system is working as it's supposed to. |
| 06:26.06 | mwilson | guestish: Me? Tired. |
| 06:26.10 | kds | So when I do a apt-get -s install kaddressbook, I get some packages in "Suggested Packges" list which I don't think I need. |
| 06:26.18 | kds | E.g. spamassassin |
| 06:26.21 | guestish | mwilson: happens to everyone |
| 06:26.54 | kds | Yes, dependency system works fine. I just want to know more about the suggested packages. |
| 06:26.56 | mwilson | kds: Ah. You told apt that it was allowed to install suggested packages, yet you have an issue with it doing what you told it to do. I see. |
| 06:27.03 | Alogon | how could i do an ls that would only show the files that had only numbers for their file name? |
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| 06:27.39 | kds | No. It doesn't install the suggested packages. |
| 06:27.42 | Bazil | thx Guerin |
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| 06:28.01 | kds | But I am kinda of not sure whether to include them or not! |
| 06:28.10 | viyyer | I am using cd-circleprint. what is the graphics converter it is looking for ? |
| 06:28.29 | mwilson | kds: kaddressbook doesn't have any Suggests. |
| 06:28.40 | mwilson | kds: Although I suppose one of its dependencies might. |
| 06:28.54 | guestish | you are too helpful.. |
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| 06:29.16 | mwilson | guestish: Why are you sighing at me? |
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| 06:29.20 | guestish | at you? |
| 06:29.22 | kds | How/Where can I paste the terminal output? ....to make it more clear. |
| 06:29.29 | jm_ | kds: /msg dpkg paste |
| 06:29.32 | guestish | im sighing at myself cause i dunno why im not going to sleep |
| 06:29.43 | netsplit | Hmmz :/ |
| 06:29.57 | kds | /msg dpkg 01:12:48:~# apt-get -s install kaddressbook |
| 06:29.58 | kds | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 06:29.58 | kds | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 06:29.58 | kds | The following extra packages will be installed: |
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| 06:29.59 | mwilson | Because you're sitting up at the computer. |
| 06:30.04 | sgeigerbot | What's wrong here: sgeiger@a31:~\ 00:26:47$ sudo /usr/sbin/pppd updetach noauth silent nodeflate pty "/usr/bin/ssh root@111.132.32.22 /usr/sbin/pppd nodetach notty noauth" ipparam 10.10.6.8:10.10.6.7 Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/5 root@111.132.32.22's password: BSD-Compress (15) compression enabled ...but yet when I type "sudo ifconfig -a" I see ppp0...an |
| 06:30.04 | sgeigerbot | d it seems to have some RX and TX packets...but ppp0 doesn't have an IP address. |
| 06:30.08 | guestish | your a genius |
| 06:30.11 | netsplit | OK, both xlsfonts and xfontsel claim that I have gb2312 fonts, however, firefox will not display any Chinese, why would that be? |
| 06:30.12 | mwilson | So lay down. |
| 06:30.15 | guestish | heh |
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| 06:30.39 | sgeigerbot | guestish: your = what belongs to you; you're = you are. Examples: Your hair looks funny. You're smelling rather unusual today. |
| 06:30.43 | mwilson | take laptop, put on floor, lay on stomach over edge of bed. |
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| 06:30.51 | guestish | sgeigerbot: your funny ;) |
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| 06:31.12 | guestish | lol |
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| 06:31.23 | jm_ | kds: NO NO NO |
| 06:31.29 | kds | I'm awfully sorry :( |
| 06:31.37 | kds | I didn't mean to flood. |
| 06:31.43 | Flimzy | How do you get cdrdao to use an ATAPI CD burner w/o IDE-SCSI emulation? |
| 06:31.43 | jm_ | kds: type "/msg dpkg paste<enter>" and read it |
| 06:31.55 | guestish | night all |
| 06:31.58 | jm_ | film;tried passing /dev/hdX as device? |
| 06:32.04 | jm_ | Flimzy ^^^^^^^ |
| 06:32.07 | kds | jm_: thanks...I'll get back after reading it. |
| 06:32.30 | Flimzy | jm_: Yeah, I've tried that. |
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| 06:32.57 | Flimzy | jm_: And I've tried "ATAPI:0,0,0" (which the man page says to do), and both result in "ERROR: Cannot setup device <foo>." |
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| 06:34.50 | Flimzy | jm_: doh... 'twas a permissions issue. I failed to reset the permissions when the device entries changed |
| 06:35.19 | gameover | where is the mesa software renderer located |
| 06:35.30 | kds | Flimzy: did you try using ATA:0,0,0 ? |
| 06:35.46 | jm_ | Flimzy: 1.1.9 even scans for ATAPI and ATA devices |
| 06:36.05 | gameover | /lib/??? |
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| 06:36.10 | jm_ | Flimzy: I never actually burn as user, so I was never bitten by any of the recent changes ;) |
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| 06:36.36 | Flimzy | I still can't figure out why the hell this CD drive is *sooo* dang slow for audio ripping on this new controller, when it was so fast on the old one. |
| 06:36.46 | kds | jm_: dpkg ---> channels.debian.net/paste do I use the #flood for pasting there? |
| 06:37.10 | jm_ | kds: no, use #debian, it will only send one line to us |
| 06:37.20 | kds | ah, OK, thanks. |
| 06:37.34 | paster | "kds" at 69.157.183.123 pasted "Output of apt-get -s install kdemultimedia --- one of the kept back packages" (59 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/216 |
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| 06:37.54 | kds | neat :) |
| 06:38.06 | jm_ | kds: those are suggested packages by other dependencies, not from kaddressbook |
| 06:38.15 | gameover | or how can i get my 3d card drivers to overwrite the mesa ones using dpkg |
| 06:38.41 | kds | so how to I determine if I really need spamassassin, clamav, annoyance-filter, etc |
| 06:39.02 | jm_ | kds: read description for each package :) |
| 06:40.04 | kds | I wasn't sure if there was a easier way. Anyway, will do step by step then. |
| 06:40.13 | Flimzy | What factors can contribute to slow CD ripping? |
| 06:41.34 | kds | my second question: I just upgraded to Thunderbird....err...its Debian Thunderbird now..and all the icons on the toolbars are changed! How come? |
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| 06:44.52 | Alogon | how do you make vi number the lines? |
| 06:45.20 | chealer | kds: if you really want to know, read debian-legal |
| 06:45.32 | chealer | trademark issues |
| 06:45.43 | zinx | Flimzy: CD drive, disc quality, DMA; in that order. |
| 06:46.00 | kds | I was following it, but I thought it was related to their logo and name trademark issues! |
| 06:46.36 | kds | I never thought that they would not allow the use of the default icon package too! |
| 06:46.50 | benoitc | how to use install-grub command if /boot is on /dev/hda1 ? |
| 06:46.52 | chealer | kds: the changelog mentions that the change isn't definitive yet, but preventine |
| 06:46.54 | benoitc | install-grub /dev/hda /dev/hda1 ? |
| 06:47.29 | gameover | does anyone here have ATi drivres working with direct rendering |
| 06:48.02 | drac | is there way to find out what possible program is using some module, cause none other module uses it, and it's still 'reserved'? talking about appletalk module. |
| 06:48.06 | chealer | Alogon: are you sure it doesn't? at bottom |
| 06:48.06 | kds | chealer: I'm not sure if you know about the problems Mozilla had with the original theme author (around 2nd Quarter of 2004)... |
| 06:48.17 | chealer | kds: no i don't |
| 06:48.22 | cafuego | Alogon: :set number |
| 06:48.47 | kds | but they immediately stopped using his theme pack just because he didn't say that he would licence it under GPL (and Mozilla tri license). |
| 06:49.35 | cafuego | drac: I'm pretty sure you can't rmmod appletalk modules. |
| 06:49.43 | kds | It just looks like they are doing the same thing that the original theme developer (Qute author) was doing! |
| 06:49.48 | Alogon | cufuego thanks :-) |
| 06:49.55 | cafuego | Alogon: See also :set ruler |
| 06:50.06 | cafuego | and :syntax on |
| 06:50.06 | Xemacs | what package in starge to reconfigure the base sound system ? |
| 06:50.24 | drac | cafuego: ok, i can live with that. but it would be nice to know in future how to 'trace' programs using some module? |
| 06:50.26 | sgeigerbot | Xemacs: whcih sound system do you have? |
| 06:50.37 | cafuego | drac: eh? |
| 06:50.38 | Xemacs | sgeigerbot, alsa |
| 06:50.45 | Alogon | cafuego: not sure what the ruler did |
| 06:51.03 | Xemacs | it was called a wrapper |
| 06:51.06 | cafuego | Alogon: Should have given you a [LINE:COLUMN] thingy on the right hand bottom |
| 06:51.18 | drac | cafuego: like, if I have xmms on, and it's using ac97_codec, where can I see that? or do i just have to know |
| 06:51.18 | sgeigerbot | Xemacs: perhaps: dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base |
| 06:51.25 | Alogon | cafuego: oh, its already there :-P |
| 06:51.33 | cafuego | drac: You just have to know |
| 06:51.38 | drac | oh |
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| 06:51.54 | cafuego | drac: You could try lsof on devices that are handled by the sound modules. |
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| 06:52.28 | drac | yeah, i've seen lsof allready, i was just sure theres something better.. |
| 06:52.36 | drac | anyway, thanks. |
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| 06:54.17 | kds | Can anyone help me with k3b not writing a DVD? (It was working fine till the last DVD I wrote yesterday) |
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| 06:55.15 | paster | "kds" at 69.157.183.123 pasted "k3b giving error for writing Video DVD" (28 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/217 |
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| 07:00.44 | caustic | hi |
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| 07:02.02 | joker71|afk | ok this is a first time for me how do I install a .deb ?? I usually compile |
| 07:02.25 | jetscreamer | dpkg -i |
| 07:02.25 | dpkg | jetscreamer: I give up, what is it? |
| 07:02.53 | joker71|afk | jetscreamer: thanks |
| 07:03.40 | joker71|afk | bah to many depends for k3b |
| 07:03.54 | john | apt-get install k3b? |
| 07:04.21 | kds | Can't write Video DVD? Debug info at http://channels.debian.net/paste/217 |
| 07:04.41 | kds | Trying to write the DVD with k3b gives error. |
| 07:04.42 | maher | kds: what is /dev/fd/0 |
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| 07:05.03 | kds | ?? let me check |
| 07:05.41 | AlexW | is there a deb package for the deb bots |
| 07:05.45 | kds | lrwx------ 1 k2 k2 64 2005-01-27 02:05 /dev/fd/0 -> /dev/pts/2 |
| 07:06.07 | maher | AlexW: blootbot |
| 07:06.27 | jetscreamer | try supybot |
| 07:06.43 | maher | kds: is that where the data is? |
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| 07:07.30 | _joey | Is sarge stable release now? |
| 07:07.30 | kds | Nope! Data is in /dev/hda9 -- a storage partition for my Video editing |
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| 07:07.40 | joker71|afk | john: it cant find it |
| 07:07.54 | maher | kds: well i dunno why k3b is trying to read from /dev/fd/0 |
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| 07:08.08 | john | joker71|afk: you need to update your source lists for apt then |
| 07:08.25 | jetscreamer | !info k3b woody |
| 07:08.33 | joker71|afk | john: have im on Xandros 1 and I have current source lists apt-get update |
| 07:08.42 | jetscreamer | try sarge |
| 07:08.55 | joker71|afk | i just want to be able to burn CDExtra cds Xroast cant for some odd reason |
| 07:08.57 | kds | maher: I'll try to write using command line and see what happens. |
| 07:08.58 | jetscreamer | !info k3b sarge |
| 07:09.02 | dpkg | k3b: (A sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.11.18-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 2231 kB, Installed size: 4353 kB |
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| 07:10.20 | joker71|afk | info: No menu in node `(*manpages*)k3b'. |
| 07:10.37 | maher | joker71|afk: maybe xandros is broken |
| 07:10.45 | sgeigerbot | When I use openvpn, do I have to do this on two machines that have public IP addresses? or can one machine be behind a firewall? |
| 07:10.56 | jetscreamer | what is xandros |
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| 07:11.03 | jetscreamer | !xandros |
| 07:11.04 | dpkg | xandros is, like, a crappy Operating System that _they_ should support... I even think it runs as root. at http://www.xandros.com/ |
| 07:11.11 | maher | jetscreamer: the distro that joker71|afk is using |
| 07:11.34 | joker71|afk | maher: nah its not just old I guess but im on a PIII so I dont need cutting edge and I had 18 mo uptime with this distro on a P4 |
| 07:11.34 | bucky | what is linspire.. some kind of conspiracy? |
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| 07:11.54 | joker71|afk | Linux ArkhamAsylum 2.4.19-x1 #1 Mon Sep 23 22:48:11 EDT 2002 i686 unknown |
| 07:12.05 | chealer | it's a xandros-like, but not based on debian. new name of lindows |
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| 07:12.29 | bucky | we got hit with a lot of clones |
| 07:12.32 | joker71|afk | chealer: not even close its the new corel linux has nothing to do with lindows |
| 07:12.34 | jetscreamer | they had to cave on the name eh |
| 07:12.42 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 07:12.46 | chealer | joker71|afk: why are you using xandros? |
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| 07:13.12 | chealer | joker71|afk: I was talking about linspire |
| 07:13.17 | maher | joker71|afk: there's nothing wrong with xandros - just we're unlikely to be able to help you |
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| 07:13.47 | john | joker71|afk: Linspire = Lindows, chealer was right. |
| 07:13.56 | chealer | joker71|afk: in particular, xandros 1! as maher says you'll have no luck on #debian with |
| 07:14.10 | joker71|afk | chealer: funny story actually, my hard drive for some unknown reason doesnt like grub and this is the only lilo install I had, I have another HD but I lack the general time and desire to try ubuntu on it being this is working exactly like I need it to and there are 0 issues with is and I spent a week tweaking it and doing the hands on dirtyness of a debian distro |
| 07:14.10 | bucky | and mepis |
| 07:14.19 | GhostXz | Dose anyone know a good news server program? |
| 07:14.41 | GhostXz | not a reader |
| 07:14.43 | GhostXz | a server |
| 07:14.51 | bucky | several of our main hub and leaf nodes may experience outages beginning about five hours from now |
| 07:14.52 | joker71|afk | i just wanted to atempt to get k3b buts its not worth the 40 file depend list headache |
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| 07:15.16 | abashuta | how is everyone? |
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| 07:15.41 | frag | whats the command to look for a specific file in packages? |
| 07:15.43 | bucky | joker71|afk, get knoppix.. then you can have all the k3b happiness you can stand |
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| 07:16.03 | chealer | joker71|afk: too bad...but FYI ubuntu isn't debian neither. and you can boot debian with lilo |
| 07:16.31 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | Othello: i need to setup a ftp on my new box. im running debian and i got no idea what is going on please pm with the solution |
| 07:16.31 | jetscreamer | frag, apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && man apt-file |
| 07:16.31 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | Hello, i need to setup a ftp on my new box. im running debian and i got no idea what is going on please pm with the solution |
| 07:16.31 | booyaa | joker71|afk, depends what you mean by headache |
| 07:16.31 | frag | jetscreamer: thanks |
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| 07:16.31 | booyaa | i use it every day, no worries at all |
| 07:16.38 | bucky | bG|[K]ostas`v2, which ftp ? |
| 07:16.39 | joker71|afk | chealer: someone told me ubuntu was and I thought I read it was in gnome land |
| 07:16.44 | booyaa | if its for moral reasons ... hard to argue |
| 07:16.51 | jetscreamer | kanotix>knoppix |
| 07:17.07 | sanxiyn | GhostXz: I don't know anything other than INN (InterNetNews) |
| 07:17.08 | joker71|afk | xandros is actually nice in a lot of ways, and it auto mounts my usb zipdrive |
| 07:17.15 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | i just want to setup a ftp. |
| 07:17.18 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | from my box. |
| 07:17.19 | sanxiyn | GhostXz: Debian package name "inn2" (or "inn" for older version) |
| 07:17.28 | joker71|afk | booyaa: i mean im not doin it tonight |
| 07:17.31 | chealer | joker71|afk: ubuntu is *based on* debian |
| 07:17.37 | booyaa | ah! :) |
| 07:17.41 | Kumar | hi to all |
| 07:17.49 | maher | bG|[K]ostas`v2: install an ftp daemon |
| 07:17.54 | bucky | knoppix-std, quantian, gnustep-knoppix |
| 07:18.00 | john | I'd rather just use debian. |
| 07:18.10 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | what do u mean Maher . |
| 07:18.11 | joker71|afk | i have never used just debian |
| 07:18.13 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | can u plz help me in pm |
| 07:18.25 | sanxiyn | bG|[K]ostas`v2: Install vsftpd |
| 07:18.25 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | i got ssh access |
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| 07:18.27 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | and i need to do it |
| 07:18.28 | jetscreamer | nobody wants to have sex with you |
| 07:18.35 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | beh ok 3 ppl have told me 3 dif things. |
| 07:18.37 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | can u plz pm me :S |
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| 07:18.55 | chealer | joker71|afk: coming on #debian will be only good to incite you to switch :) |
| 07:18.56 | maher | bG|[K]ostas`v2: google ftpd tutorial |
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| 07:19.10 | booyaa | chealer, hahaha |
| 07:19.14 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | beh |
| 07:19.17 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | thats not much help |
| 07:19.18 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | but ok |
| 07:19.18 | booyaa | thats funny and true at the same time |
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| 07:20.17 | joker71|afk | chealer: my friend is a debian man and he got me into it with xandros and perhaps after the semester I will change my OS butr for now I am on on Xandros here and mandrake 10.1 on my lappy |
| 07:20.38 | maher | bucky: s'right mate! |
| 07:20.47 | bucky | who opened the gate? |
| 07:20.53 | chealer | joker71|afk: yeah, no problem. if I'd advise someone to start on linux, I may suggest him to get used with xandros then try debian |
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| 07:21.24 | calyth | after I've installed qemu, it says SDL cannot be initialized. what am I missing? |
| 07:21.49 | joker71|afk | chealer: I started on corel 1 I still have the cds then RH7.3 then SuSE 7.3 and a good many distros including gentoo but xandros just seems to work best for me |
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| 07:22.31 | AlexW | can someone look at this error http://pastebin.com/234034 |
| 07:22.44 | john | I started on Mandrake 8.1 or something, then Mandrake 9.2 then 10.0/10.1, and now debian. |
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| 07:23.21 | sanxiyn | calyth: What? QEMU depends on SDL. |
| 07:23.21 | chealer | joker71|afk: as long as you don't mind using old software...but I'm sure you'd be very happy with debian |
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| 07:23.49 | maher | AlexW: did you read the docs in /usr/share/doc/blootbot |
| 07:23.49 | jm_ | AlexW: check if blootbotsetup is a shell script and debug it, otherwise use perl to debug it |
| 07:23.58 | booyaa | i tried all of them to start, but right away chose debian |
| 07:24.04 | booyaa | thers just no point running anything else |
| 07:24.07 | calyth | sanxiyn: well I have libsdl1.2debian installed, but it still says it cannot initialize sdl |
| 07:24.26 | joker71|afk | chealer: yeah I suppose I love what drake has done on my lappy ( no burner so I have no idea how k3b would work there) but its cool ill get to it after semester |
| 07:24.36 | AlexW | Can't locate /etc/blootbot/directories at /usr/sbin/blootbotsetup line 8. |
| 07:24.47 | sanxiyn | calyth: Perhaps it cannot. :-) |
| 07:24.49 | jm_ | AlexW: alternatively, if you uninstalled it and removed /etc/blootbot by hand, it's your fault |
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| 07:24.55 | Overand | what's a good app I can use to 'mirror' a site, sort of like a recursive wget that snags images too |
| 07:24.56 | AlexW | i did |
| 07:25.01 | AlexW | apt-get remove blootbot |
| 07:25.04 | Overand | (of course it'd have to parse the html) |
| 07:25.05 | directhex | Overand, wget |
| 07:25.08 | chealer | AlexW: I got a similar error too, check the BTS |
| 07:25.09 | jm_ | and then rm -rf /etc/blootbot? |
| 07:25.17 | maher | Overand: wget gets images |
| 07:25.19 | directhex | Overand, wget -m www.foo.bar |
| 07:25.20 | AlexW | :( |
| 07:25.22 | AlexW | yuh |
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| 07:25.31 | jm_ | dpkg -P blootbot;apt-get install blootbot |
| 07:25.31 | dpkg | jm_: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 07:25.39 | Overand | -m : --mirror : ... |
| 07:25.39 | Overand | yeah |
| 07:25.49 | Overand | i'm a jeenyuhs. |
| 07:25.52 | Overand | thanks =] |
| 07:25.59 | jm_ | if some script will fail, insert exit 0 into it at appropriate place |
| 07:26.07 | AlexW | so what can i do to fix this :P |
| 07:26.15 | maher | AlexW: read the instructions |
| 07:26.20 | AlexW | ahh |
| 07:26.32 | Myren | i have a header file with a variable i link to in a number of different programs, but i get a multiple definition error when i compile all the different .o's. do i redclare the variables with extern in each file that uses the variables? |
| 07:26.35 | chealer | !info blootbot sarge |
| 07:26.37 | jetscreamer | read the directions |
| 07:26.45 | Overand | hehm now i've just to to find a way to tame it, i'm sure the manpage has info on restricting stuff |
| 07:26.46 | Myren | oh crap, wrong chan |
| 07:26.51 | chealer | blootbot isn't in sarge :? |
| 07:26.55 | joker71|afk | gotta love the fixating freeze up |
| 07:26.55 | jetscreamer | no it's not |
| 07:26.59 | jetscreamer | was buggy |
| 07:27.12 | jetscreamer | so they left it out of the 'impending' release |
| 07:27.12 | AlexW | !info blootbot sarge |
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| 07:27.21 | jetscreamer | it's in sid and woody, not sarge |
| 07:27.26 | AlexW | hrrm |
| 07:27.28 | jetscreamer | !info blootbot woody |
| 07:27.30 | dpkg | blootbot: (a severely modified infobot for IRC), section net, is optional. Version: 1.1.0-2 (woody), Packaged size: 235 kB, Installed size: 831 kB |
| 07:27.31 | AlexW | !info blootbot woody |
| 07:27.33 | ekaf | any AGNULA/DeMuDi users around? |
| 07:27.46 | jetscreamer | somebody just said that 3 seconds ago |
| 07:27.58 | jetscreamer | deja vu? |
| 07:28.08 | bucky | incognito? |
| 07:28.12 | jetscreamer | try a supybot, like i said |
| 07:28.24 | jetscreamer | you'll 'probably' be happier with it |
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| 07:29.33 | chealer | jetscreamer: any idea why it doesn't list on http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt ? |
| 07:30.02 | jetscreamer | no, none at all |
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| 07:30.48 | chealer | directhex: do you know why nvidia-glx was removed from sarge? |
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| 07:31.10 | brlancer | how can you find out what process is holding onto a file? I could use lsof, but I know I've used something which takes a filename as input and lists all processes that are using it |
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| 07:31.23 | zinx | brlancer: it's called "lsof" |
| 07:31.36 | Overand | wow, wget is *great* |
| 07:31.43 | directhex | chealer, no. no idea. |
| 07:31.47 | vulture | what zinx said |
| 07:31.50 | Overand | i've only used it to snag single files before, this is a damned sophisiticated app |
| 07:32.12 | directhex | chealer, possibly as an incredibly lame solution to the udev problem |
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| 07:32.48 | hazzern | hi all :) |
| 07:32.49 | hume | on a new installation, i have no pipe, the key doesnt work - anyone knows what setting it should be (guess it is in XF86Config-4)? |
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| 07:33.05 | chealer | it's strange, it's not on http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt and there's still nvidia-kernel-source in contrib |
| 07:33.25 | hazzern | how do i change I/O DMA setting for a device i'm interested in changeing them for the sound card :) |
| 07:33.31 | Overand | How can I get the middle mouse button to let me close tabs in firefox? |
| 07:33.44 | sanxiyn | Overand: wget manpage is *huge*... |
| 07:33.46 | Overand | hazzern: you'll need to add those as paramaters when you modprobe the device |
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| 07:34.02 | Overand | sanxiyn: it's really amazing. it'll even convert non-relative links in html to relative links |
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| 07:35.42 | sanxiyn | Overand: Ah, you want Windows' default tab closing with middle mouse button? |
| 07:35.53 | sanxiyn | Overand: It's used for URL loading in Linux. |
| 07:36.00 | Overand | yeah.. |
| 07:36.09 | Overand | i mean i middle-click a link to open in a new tab |
| 07:36.11 | joker71|afk | anyway I have reading to do for class tomorrow so im back to afk |
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| 07:36.14 | Overand | that's consistent with windows firefox |
| 07:36.28 | sanxiyn | Overand: Eh, actually it also loads URL in clipboard. |
| 07:36.35 | sanxiyn | Overand: So you want Windows behaviour? |
| 07:36.44 | hazzern | Overand where are the paramaters saved for the device ? |
| 07:36.46 | sanxiyn | Overand: Set damn middlemouse.contentLoadURL to false if you want that. |
| 07:36.57 | sanxiyn | (in about:config) |
| 07:36.59 | sanxiyn | I won't do that though. |
| 07:37.02 | Overand | hazzern: check /etc/modules |
| 07:37.12 | hazzern | k :) |
| 07:37.48 | Overand | i never thought of checking about:config |
| 07:37.53 | Overand | man i've been having a low IQ week, heh |
| 07:38.25 | hazzern | thanks :) |
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| 07:38.39 | sanxiyn | Overand: Well, it's non obvious. |
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| 07:39.04 | sanxiyn | Overand: When it's true (this applies to Windows as well) |
| 07:39.14 | sanxiyn | Overand: If you mid-click tab, tab changes to URL in clipboard. |
| 07:39.18 | prad | Talking about windows behaviour, I am wondering what the deal is with the volume control. I have the sound mixer open and it has placed a speaker icon in the taskbar (resembling windows) however, when I run video through noatun, the volume control does not make a difference ??? Is there a quick and easy way to control the volume for all programs ? |
| 07:39.38 | sanxiyn | I use Ctrl-W to close tab, so I like loading behaviour better. |
| 07:40.32 | sanxiyn | Overand: Does that config work for you? :-) |
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| 07:43.03 | ekaf | FraudulentPeanut what aick |
| 07:43.18 | ekaf | FraudulentPeanut what a nick |
| 07:43.30 | ekaf | damn this tiny keyboard |
| 07:45.51 | prad | anyone ? |
| 07:47.30 | ekaf | sorry prad im a n00b i have no clue |
| 07:48.16 | prad | tis kool... I've got another question, does anyone know where I can find out the scrolling text when you are booting up ? |
| 07:48.27 | ApEtc | dmesg |
| 07:48.31 | jm_ | prad: dmesg, also enable bootlogd |
| 07:48.39 | prad | thank you |
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| 07:49.04 | Overand | sanxiyn: i sort of bounce between key and mouse |
| 07:49.15 | Overand | sanxiyn: it's a laptop so i've got to be a bit quirky about the UI |
| 07:49.39 | Overand | and it's a P2-400 so it's already a little laggy. 'all-in-one gestures' is noticably slow in response |
| 07:51.05 | vladkao | oops :-) |
| 07:51.08 | Overand | whee. |
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| 07:51.10 | coywolf | how to include debian menu? the old syntax is &debian; what's it now? |
| 07:51.14 | Overand | man, reminds me of home (efnet) |
| 07:51.16 | sanxiyn | Perhaps "close tab with middle click" shall be in some config dialog. |
| 07:51.32 | sanxiyn | Maybe there's already bug for it :-) |
| 07:51.49 | prad | I no longer see many netsplits on efnet anymore |
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| 07:52.01 | vladkao | btw, is there a problem with Opera (the browser) and sarge's libraries? it gives me "Segmentation fault"... |
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| 07:52.14 | Overand | prad: yeah, but it *used* to be bad |
| 07:52.22 | prad | yeah hell yeah |
| 07:52.23 | prad | ;p |
| 07:52.25 | Overand | i see hardly any splits on any network these days |
| 07:52.31 | Overand | and efnet sort of has vague services now |
| 07:52.35 | Overand | it handles splits a lot better anyway |
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| 07:53.19 | Overand | well that's better |
| 07:53.25 | coywolf | help, anyone know debian menu |
| 07:53.27 | prad | omg, sarge located my tuner card... I didn't even know it was in the box |
| 07:53.33 | Overand | haha awesome, prad |
| 07:53.38 | chealer | coywolf: what are you talking about? |
| 07:53.51 | coywolf | how to include debian menu? the old syntax is &debian; what's it now? chealer |
| 07:55.05 | Overand | now i just need to figure out a keyboard shortcut for switching firefox tabs |
| 07:55.28 | chealer | coywolf: include the debian menu in what? |
| 07:55.53 | coywolf | chealer, in menu.xml |
| 07:55.56 | brc_ | Overand, alt tab |
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| 07:56.43 | chealer | coywolf: you want to add debian menu in your gnome menu? |
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| 07:56.52 | sanxiyn | coywolf: XFCE4? |
| 07:56.58 | coywolf | yes, actually, xfce chealer |
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| 07:57.03 | coywolf | sanxiyn, yes |
| 07:57.09 | sanxiyn | coywolf: &debian; entity is generated by "menu method". |
| 07:57.26 | sanxiyn | coywolf: That is, executable files in /etc/menu-methods |
| 07:57.27 | coywolf | sanxiyn, &debian; is the old syntax |
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| 07:57.40 | sanxiyn | coywolf: Yes. If it was changed, there must be note in xfce package. |
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| 07:59.20 | coywolf | sanxiyn, /etc/menu-methods/xfdesktop4 hang |
| 07:59.43 | Overand | brc_: alt-tab switches between currently running applications, not tabs |
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| 07:59.59 | jetscreamer | lies, all lies. everything he says is a lie. |
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| 08:00.31 | brc_ | Overand, ctrl+tab... |
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| 08:00.56 | Overand | brc_: control-tab switches between virtual desktops |
| 08:01.01 | Overand | (in KDE at least) |
| 08:01.02 | brc_ | not for me |
| 08:01.10 | Overand | brc_: what window manager are you using? |
| 08:01.28 | brc_ | choose the light, choose life, choose simplicity, choose gnome |
| 08:01.34 | Overand | heh |
| 08:01.38 | brc_ | ok, that twas lame |
| 08:01.40 | Overand | i may migrate to gnome at some point |
| 08:01.46 | ekaf | lol |
| 08:01.54 | jetscreamer | it's unbound by default in gnome |
| 08:01.55 | Overand | it's a P2-400, though, i've heard bad things about gnome on low end hardware |
| 08:01.55 | brc_ | ubuntu == teh. pwn |
| 08:01.58 | chealer | Overand: Ctrl+PageUP/DOWN |
| 08:01.58 | jetscreamer | for virt dsktops |
| 08:02.04 | sanxiyn | coywolf: It doesn't hang. It is a filter. |
| 08:02.08 | Overand | chealer: thanks |
| 08:02.09 | jetscreamer | icewm rox |
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| 08:02.12 | Overand | also you can do alt-1, alt-2 |
| 08:02.13 | Overand | etc |
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| 08:02.25 | coywolf | sanxiyn, it just stops there |
| 08:02.41 | sanxiyn | coywolf: Eh, it is to be called by update-menus |
| 08:02.44 | coywolf | sanxiyn, /usr/sbin/install-menu /etc/menu-methods/xfdesktop4 hang |
| 08:03.06 | sanxiyn | coywolf: It is waiting standard input |
| 08:03.24 | coywolf | sanxiyn, how to run it? |
| 08:03.26 | sanxiyn | That is, it should read files in /usr/lib/menu/* |
| 08:03.31 | sanxiyn | coywolf: update-menus. |
| 08:03.38 | sanxiyn | coywolf: Any other thing is internal. Don't use them. |
| 08:04.00 | coywolf | sanxiyn, update-menus runs ok, but what it gernerated? |
| 08:04.19 | ekaf | whas ubuntu? |
| 08:04.24 | sanxiyn | It generates some xml, and Debian's default XFCE4 menu config file has hook to include it. |
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| 08:05.01 | coywolf | sanxiyn, where are the xml files? |
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| 08:05.22 | chealer | !ubuntu |
| 08:05.22 | dpkg | rumour has it, ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu |
| 08:05.27 | bob2 | ekaf: www.ubuntulinux.org |
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| 08:05.58 | ekaf | im on there atm |
| 08:06.00 | siimo | hello does anyone use gaim to log onto here ? |
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| 08:06.16 | jetscreamer | lies |
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| 08:06.17 | bob2 | hopefully not |
| 08:06.28 | chealer | siimo: me |
| 08:06.29 | siimo | why not |
| 08:06.42 | sanxiyn | coywolf: I think, it's at /etc/X11/xfce4 |
| 08:06.44 | siimo | chealer: do you know how to set it to auto identify ? |
| 08:06.51 | sanxiyn | "menudefs.hook", for me. |
| 08:07.00 | jetscreamer | choosy parents choose gaim |
| 08:07.02 | sanxiyn | But I don't use XFCE4 these days... |
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| 08:07.21 | chealer | siimo: I don't do it myself, but I suggest to look at their faq http://gaim.sf.net |
| 08:07.21 | sanxiyn | (It's done by running update-menus and searching for files with updated timestamps!) |
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| 08:08.28 | SexyKen | Hey guys, anyone here think TV Tuner cards are any good? |
| 08:08.51 | siimo | i dont see a root |
| 08:08.51 | ekaf | depends if you wanna watch tv on your computer |
| 08:08.56 | pook | yes if you want a tv signal in your computer |
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| 08:09.19 | siimo | oh Lord_Falken |
| 08:09.25 | chealer | siimo: "Add NickServ to your buddy list and place buddy pounces on him/her/it. Do not include "/msg nickserv" as part of the message to send." |
| 08:09.38 | siimo | chealer: yeah saw that thanks |
| 08:10.01 | pook | i'm looking for someone who knows a lot about getting wireless to work on a centrino laptop |
| 08:10.04 | SexyKen | Well, I have an office/guest room here at the house and I dont want to get a TV for it, but I'm sure people will at times want to watch TV in here. |
| 08:10.12 | Overand | is there even support for that chipset? |
| 08:10.17 | pook | cus my problem is prob gonna challenge you |
| 08:10.20 | Overand | (re: centrino) |
| 08:10.29 | pook | yes, ipw2200.sourceforge.net |
| 08:10.52 | SexyKen | So I was thinking about getting a TV Tuner card, and on E-Bay a TV Tuner/FM tuner for $19.95 + 9.95 s&h isn't too bad. |
| 08:10.58 | pook | and i've gotten it to work in the past...but that's only cus someone stepped me through...we tried so many things I was completely confused |
| 08:11.20 | pook | but i need to do it again...and i've tried as much as i could figure...but its still not working |
| 08:11.45 | Overand | pook: is it the same laptop? |
| 08:11.46 | prad | hey pook, about 10 mins ago I found otu that sarge had detected my tuner card, which I didn't even know it was in there... and tuner card is now up and running through kdetv |
| 08:11.57 | Overand | er, sorry |
| 08:12.01 | Overand | is it the same install? |
| 08:12.03 | pook | aah... |
| 08:12.09 | pook | no different install |
| 08:12.22 | SexyKen | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3761&item=5159834041&rd=1 -- is this a good tuner card? |
| 08:12.35 | Overand | did you have to patch the kernel source or something fun like that? |
| 08:12.40 | robink | Are #debaian chats logged? |
| 08:12.54 | Overand | robink: it's likely that at least one user in here is logging |
| 08:13.04 | robink | Overand: You don't know if they're posted online, do you? |
| 08:13.05 | Overand | (dunno about an official log though) |
| 08:13.08 | robink | hm |
| 08:13.13 | Overand | !log |
| 08:13.13 | dpkg | Yeah, big guy, show me your log!, or "It's log, log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! It's log, log, it's better than bad it's good!" |
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| 08:13.18 | Overand | hm |
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| 08:13.21 | Overand | !logs |
| 08:13.21 | dpkg | logs are what you should always check when you have a problem. They live in /var/log/ |
| 08:13.25 | Overand | heh |
| 08:13.27 | Overand | !irclog |
| 08:13.31 | robink | nope |
| 08:13.35 | mosty | sexyken: mythtv users seem to love those hauppage pvr-250/350's |
| 08:13.36 | Overand | well, i'm stumped |
| 08:13.38 | kds | Everythings up-to-date on my box. Thanks for all the help. |
| 08:13.39 | Overand | oh man |
| 08:13.46 | Overand | mosty: i had SUCH a pain in the ass getting that to work |
| 08:13.49 | Overand | well, my step-brother did |
| 08:13.49 | Overand | heh |
| 08:13.50 | robink | Are those Linux HDTV cards still being sold? |
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| 08:13.53 | Overand | took 3 of us several days |
| 08:14.03 | Overand | most stuff worked ok aside from the *tuner* |
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| 08:14.19 | Overand | had to change some crap in ivtv's source and recompile, lots of fun |
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| 08:14.31 | pook | it seems like anything i try doesn't have much effect on the wireless (eth1) working |
| 08:14.32 | mosty | overand, i'll have it if you don't want it :) |
| 08:14.35 | Overand | that's not mythtv's fault |
| 08:14.38 | Overand | mosty: oh it works now |
| 08:14.39 | Mr|Dave | Anyone mind giving me some help with mod_rewrite. No one in #apache seems to be awake and (I think) it's a simple rule |
| 08:14.41 | Overand | and it's a beautiful thing |
| 08:14.59 | Overand | we went for the 250 and onboard tvout on a shuttle |
| 08:15.19 | Overand | the 350 would be good for tvout of the mpeg2 video but not so much for x11, i've heard performance is lousy |
| 08:15.27 | Mr|Dave | I have RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^webcollage.* [NC] and RewriteRule ^/.* - [F] yet everything still goes through |
| 08:15.52 | mosty | overand: i want a hardware realtime mpeg4 card |
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| 08:18.05 | pook | so i'm assuming that's a negativo |
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| 08:26.03 | Overand | mosty: they exist |
| 08:26.06 | Overand | well, decoder |
| 08:26.22 | Overand | mini-itx.com had some stuff on them |
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| 08:27.29 | mosty | overand: my machines are fast enough to decode in realtime without a card, i want to encode in realtime though |
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| 08:29.17 | Overand | holy crap 'less' is useful |
| 08:29.21 | mattybats | anybody here attempt to dual boot sarge and w2k? |
| 08:29.31 | Rawplayer | gmorning y'all |
| 08:29.31 | Overand | mattybats: i dual boot sarge and winxp on one of my boxes |
| 08:29.38 | Rawplayer | Overand: tail -f to |
| 08:29.39 | sanxiyn | Overand: less is the greatest ASCII programming language interpreter! |
| 08:29.46 | sanxiyn | (And vim the best IDE.) |
| 08:29.48 | Overand | heh |
| 08:29.53 | Overand | don't forget |
| 08:29.56 | Rawplayer | what about tail -f ?:\ |
| 08:29.58 | Overand | SCREEN is the best window manager |
| 08:30.01 | SexyKen | Hey guys, is this a good DVD Burner: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44956&item=5745072808&rd=1 |
| 08:30.03 | Garp | Question: My debian ibook says at boot on some ext3 partitions "Maximum count reached you should run fsck" (somethinng like that) Why doesnt it do it by itself ? (usually that's I saw). Where can I configure so that it does it on it's own ? |
| 08:30.04 | Overand | yeah tail -f is insanely great too |
| 08:30.06 | mattybats | Overand: ever get inaccessible_boot_device blue screen when booting windows? |
| 08:30.13 | Overand | mattybats: no |
| 08:30.51 | mattybats | i think debian install botched up the MBR |
| 08:30.51 | sanxiyn | Overand: Screen is actually WM + VNC! |
| 08:30.52 | Overand | mattybats: i did stuff in this order: new hard drive (or just one with no partition table), install winxp, tell it to partition, say, 20% of the drive during the install |
| 08:31.00 | Overand | sanxiyn: no kidding |
| 08:31.06 | sanxiyn | Overand: ? |
| 08:31.10 | bbrazil | Overand: 'less' and press F - same as tail -f but with scrolability |
| 08:31.22 | Overand | and ssh -L ... is the best private networking system |
| 08:31.26 | Overand | (because it's bloody simple |
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| 08:32.00 | Overand | I even encourage strictly-windows people to at least get cygwin so they can do the *really simple* stuff we can do in the unix world |
| 08:32.04 | Overand | bbrazil: that's cool |
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| 08:32.18 | sanxiyn | Overand: Well, GNOME 2.8 now includes ability to publish current session as VNC, but it still doesn't beat screen -x or screen -r. |
| 08:32.21 | mattybats | suse install works no problem, automatically configures grub and let's me get into windows |
| 08:32.47 | mattybats | debian appears to but then i get blue screen |
| 08:32.55 | Garp | mattybats: maybe that's what you should use, then. |
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| 08:33.06 | mattybats | :] |
| 08:33.28 | mattybats | i think i'm going through seperation anxiety |
| 08:33.58 | mattybats | i probly will end up just using debian |
| 08:34.08 | mattybats | but now i just want to fix this shit |
| 08:34.16 | Overand | sanxiyn: or forgetting you did screen -r from work, and going home and doing screen -Dr |
| 08:34.18 | mattybats | it's irking me |
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| 08:34.34 | Garp | mattybats : sorry I cant help, I know very little about windows |
| 08:34.39 | Overand | with me |
| 08:34.47 | Overand | when i did it, it worked 'out of the box' |
| 08:34.49 | Overand | oh |
| 08:34.50 | Overand | mattybats: |
| 08:34.55 | Overand | is windows on the first parititon? |
| 08:35.00 | Overand | /dev/hda1 for example |
| 08:35.12 | mattybats | yep |
| 08:35.16 | Overand | i don't know if it's still picky about that, but i think it used to be |
| 08:35.22 | mattybats | how so? |
| 08:35.25 | Overand | and you did - install 2k, install sarge? |
| 08:35.28 | Overand | nah that's the right place |
| 08:35.30 | mattybats | yep |
| 08:35.41 | Overand | hm |
| 08:35.55 | Overand | well, you *could* reinstall windows |
| 08:35.56 | Garp | nobody knows about my question ? |
| 08:35.56 | sanxiyn | Eh... strange. I think it worked in that situation. |
| 08:36.00 | Overand | and then re-run grub |
| 08:36.00 | Overand | yeah |
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| 08:36.02 | Overand | it worked for me |
| 08:36.04 | Overand | but with XP |
| 08:36.06 | mattybats | did that |
| 08:36.07 | Overand | 2k is slightly more 'fragile' |
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| 08:36.21 | flavius | hi, i`ve got little trouble with nvidia graphic driver under debian |
| 08:36.33 | Overand | that being said i do have a 2k box that's still running right now that has actually migrated across 3 hard drives and 2 motherboards |
| 08:36.37 | mattybats | why would it work with suse but not debian |
| 08:36.41 | Overand | it's on a p4 2.4, was originally installed on a p3-800 |
| 08:36.50 | sanxiyn | mattybats: It usually works with Debian too. :( |
| 08:36.51 | Overand | mattybats: it's weird, because i have nearly the same setup and it works fine |
| 08:36.52 | Overand | ooohh |
| 08:36.53 | mattybats | only thing i can come up with is that maybe grub is different somehow |
| 08:36.59 | Overand | sanxiyn: are you using a weird ide controller? |
| 08:37.01 | mattybats | between suse and debian |
| 08:37.05 | tarzeau | bob2: wanna see a killer demo? |
| 08:37.07 | tarzeau | http://www.xdev.org/kits/demo.html |
| 08:37.08 | mattybats | version or something like that |
| 08:37.10 | sanxiyn | Overand: Eh, was it to me? |
| 08:37.11 | Overand | or do you have your mobo's ide controller set to a weird mode? |
| 08:37.19 | Skiver | how can i purge my current MTA, and install a new one ? |
| 08:37.22 | Alogon | I know it is bad programming practice but it is my last resort... is it possible to do "goto"s in a borne shell script? |
| 08:37.24 | sanxiyn | I guess it's not GRUB, but Windows detection. |
| 08:37.31 | sanxiyn | (To write GRUB conf) |
| 08:37.32 | Overand | sanxiyn: probably |
| 08:37.41 | Overand | inaccessible boot partition... hnm |
| 08:37.46 | flavius | ive upgraded my kernel to 2.6.9-ac14 and after reboot i build the new nvidia kernel module, X started up fine but after reboot it won`t |
| 08:37.48 | Penix | Skiver: install the new one. the old one will be removed |
| 08:37.51 | Overand | mattybats: can you mount the windows drive from inside debian? |
| 08:37.55 | mattybats | yep |
| 08:37.59 | bob2 | tarzeau: what is it? |
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| 08:38.01 | Overand | and everything checks out? |
| 08:38.01 | sanxiyn | Alogon: AFAIK, no. |
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| 08:38.15 | flavius | then i only reloaded the module and X works fine again |
| 08:38.23 | sanxiyn | Garp: You want autofucking? |
| 08:38.33 | chealer | flavius: echo "nvidia" >>/etc/modules |
| 08:38.35 | Skiver | Penix : that is not what happened here. |
| 08:38.42 | mattybats | sanxiyn: you're saying windows doesn't detect the partition the partitio correctly? |
| 08:39.04 | sanxiyn | mattybats: No, Debian didn't detect Windows partition and wrote GRUB conf appropriately. |
| 08:39.05 | mattybats | (based on what grub is telling it) |
| 08:39.08 | sanxiyn | mattybats: That's my guess. |
| 08:39.11 | Garp | sanxiyn: I would like that my partitions be checked at boot when "maximum count reached" instead of just saying me "you should fsck" and doin g nothing |
| 08:39.16 | Overand | it's a *windows* bluescreen right? |
| 08:39.20 | Alogon | sanxiyn : AFAIK? well that sucks, because i need a function to be able to call its self... guess i have to put all this crap in a big loop and only incrament the variable when i get what i want :-( |
| 08:39.26 | Overand | i'm not familiar with how grub fails |
| 08:39.32 | Overand | for all i know it could bluescreen too, heh |
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| 08:39.46 | flavius | hm ok thx i try |
| 08:39.55 | mattybats | sanxiyn: but debian install created an entry in menu.lst so i'm assumin it did detect correctly |
| 08:40.16 | tarzeau | bob2: a great demo! |
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| 08:41.02 | Garp | (so, no idea where this is done?) |
| 08:41.09 | Alogon | sanxiyn : nm AFAIK = as far as i know, I <3 urbandictionary.com :-) |
| 08:41.24 | Overand | Alogon: apt-get install wtf |
| 08:41.43 | sanxiyn | Alogon: ? |
| 08:41.48 | sanxiyn | Overand: ? |
| 08:41.51 | Overand | it's a command-line app |
| 08:41.52 | Overand | 'wtf' |
| 08:42.01 | sanxiyn | mattybats: Ah, is it? |
| 08:42.01 | Overand | you type: wtf is lol |
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| 08:42.14 | sanxiyn | !info wtf |
| 08:42.16 | Overand | and it'll give you an answer. best reference tool ever |
| 08:42.26 | sanxiyn | Overand: It doesn't exist. |
| 08:42.37 | Overand | maybe it's included in bsdgames |
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| 08:42.41 | Overand | yeah |
| 08:42.46 | Overand | apt-get install bsdgames |
| 08:43.35 | mattybats | sanxiyn: is there somewhere else to check that will tell me? |
| 08:43.45 | sanxiyn | I don't know. |
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| 08:44.50 | Overand | hm |
| 08:44.57 | mattybats | sanxiyn: you fucking with me? |
| 08:45.06 | sanxiyn | mattybats: Ah, no :-) |
| 08:45.12 | sanxiyn | mattybats: I was replying to Overand. |
| 08:45.21 | mattybats | i see |
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| 08:45.34 | sanxiyn | Overand: Useful utility, indeed. |
| 08:45.58 | cat | hey i got a question how can i do this, i got my master with win and my slave with linux, debian but when it boots up i cannot see my win how can i do this? |
| 08:46.35 | Overand | cat: can you explain in more detail? |
| 08:46.36 | Alogon | lol i think using this big ass loop as a "function" so it can call its self is more gimpy than using goto's :-P |
| 08:46.39 | Overand | define 'see' |
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| 08:47.03 | Garp | bebye |
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| 08:47.25 | cat | Overand: yeah i have deb running now from my slave but when i reboot i cannot see my win i only can see the deb partition |
| 08:48.54 | xirtam | i made a dist-upgrade using sid. i got lots of warnings for a missing lib: /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libssh.so |
| 08:49.08 | xirtam | i dont find anything in debian according to this warning ... any ideas? |
| 08:50.23 | chealer | cat: you can't see it with e.g. kdiskfree? |
| 08:50.23 | Overand | cat, you still haven't defined "see" |
| 08:50.24 | cat | chealer: i just want to boot up my win, |
| 08:50.24 | cat | im using grub |
| 08:50.24 | chealer | ok that's more precise |
| 08:50.24 | Overand | and when your system boots there are only options for linux on your bootmenu? |
| 08:50.30 | cat | yes |
| 08:50.40 | Overand | ok. |
| 08:50.47 | Overand | do you know what device your windows drive is? |
| 08:50.53 | cat | not really |
| 08:50.54 | Overand | like is it installed to /dev/hda1 ? |
| 08:51.01 | cat | i think /dev/hda1 |
| 08:51.04 | cat | how can i make sure though? |
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| 08:51.15 | Overand | mount it and see |
| 08:51.19 | spamhog | type df |
| 08:51.20 | Overand | did you install woody or sarge? |
| 08:51.25 | cat | sarge |
| 08:51.42 | cat | it cant find /dev/hda1 on /etc/fstab |
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| 08:51.49 | ipp | Hello all |
| 08:51.54 | chealer | cat: it's normal |
| 08:52.18 | cat | chealer: well what can i do |
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| 08:52.41 | chealer | cat: I don't know, did df help? I think kdiskfree is just a GUI for df |
| 08:52.44 | Overand | you'll want to make a mount point |
| 08:52.48 | Overand | and mount the drive |
| 08:52.54 | Overand | unless it's already mounted |
| 08:52.57 | spamhog | cat: you can add an entry into fstab manually |
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| 08:53.04 | cat | oh ic |
| 08:53.13 | Overand | i don't think his problem is 'seeing' his windows partition |
| 08:53.23 | Overand | it's that grub isn't giving him an option to boot into windows |
| 08:53.31 | Overand | right? |
| 08:53.35 | cat | now it says mount point does not exist |
| 08:53.40 | chealer | yeah but he most find the partition first |
| 08:53.46 | cat | right Overand |
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| 08:53.48 | ipp | I have some trouble with stlport on Sarge (_STLP_DEBUG produces "undefined refernces to ..." messages). Could anybody help me? |
| 08:53.49 | Overand | yeah, but he can just make a temporary mountpoint |
| 08:53.56 | chealer | anyway #grub may better you |
| 08:54.03 | sanxiyn | xirtam: libssh.so missing is okay. |
| 08:54.04 | cat | but how Overand ? |
| 08:54.18 | Overand | cat, mkdir ~/wintest |
| 08:54.19 | sanxiyn | xirtam: (GNOME VFS ssh method changed to sftp in the mean time.) |
| 08:54.38 | Overand | and, if you're a sudoer, mount /dev/hda1 ~/wintest |
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| 08:54.45 | Overand | er, sudo mount ... |
| 08:55.06 | Overand | if not, switch to root, make a mountpoint (make a directory somewhere, mount the drive, etc) |
| 08:55.06 | HankH | does anyone know a good way of making alsa work on a sarge installation? |
| 08:55.22 | Overand | but setting up fstab is a good idea in the long run |
| 08:55.22 | sanxiyn | Eh, it just worked for me :-) |
| 08:55.28 | HankH | it seems like this hardware detection is skrewing me up |
| 08:55.29 | cat | do i make the dir as root Overand ? |
| 08:55.36 | Overand | cat: depends where you want to make it |
| 08:55.41 | Overand | if it's in /mnt then yes |
| 08:55.50 | sanxiyn | HankH: Possibly. Sometimes autodetection makes something harder :( |
| 08:55.56 | Overand | try to spend as little time 'as root' as possible |
| 08:55.58 | cat | ok done mounting it |
| 08:56.06 | Overand | ok, go into it and see if it 'works' |
| 08:56.10 | Overand | see if that's your windows drive |
| 08:56.20 | cat | yeah |
| 08:56.36 | xirtam | sanxiyn: thx |
| 08:57.05 | HankH | do you guys know of a command to see which modules are bound to which devices? |
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| 08:57.14 | cat | HankH: /etc/modules |
| 08:57.17 | sanxiyn | xirtam: Perhaps it shouldn't sprinkle warnings, by the way. |
| 08:57.18 | HankH | like cmedia = dsp0 ? |
| 08:57.26 | cat | oh |
| 08:58.33 | Overand | heh, *everything* sprinkles warnings. |
| 08:58.39 | cat | what else do i do Overand |
| 08:58.50 | Overand | cat, you're going to need to edit your grub configuration |
| 08:58.57 | Overand | try #grub |
| 08:59.00 | cat | ok |
| 08:59.05 | Overand | i don't know the details of grub, sorry |
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| 08:59.27 | Overand | i'd gadly read my configuration off to you but my grub box is currently unplugged from the lan |
| 08:59.33 | cat | so its /dev/hda1 ? |
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| 08:59.41 | sanxiyn | Actually, Debian's grub menu.list has enough info to just edit it yourself :-) |
| 08:59.45 | spamhog | cat: I have grub |
| 08:59.57 | sanxiyn | cat: In GRUB speach, it's called (hd0,0). It's confusing. Blame them. |
| 09:00.04 | cat | oh |
| 09:00.13 | cat | damn |
| 09:00.17 | Overand | ^majik^: do I know you from efnet? |
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| 09:00.49 | sanxiyn | cat: title Windows / root (hd0,0) / makeactive / chainloader +1 |
| 09:00.53 | spamhog | cat: I can try and dcc you a piece of my /boot/grub/menu file, which is set for booting /dev/hda1 with a Win9x in it. |
| 09:00.58 | sanxiyn | Or similar. |
| 09:01.06 | Overand | or are you just another supernatural person with 'powers' |
| 09:01.08 | Overand | aaaaaahaha |
| 09:01.09 | ^majik^ | Overand: mm.. maybe not. I haven't been to efnet in a while I guess. |
| 09:01.09 | Overand | oh god |
| 09:01.16 | Overand | you've got *powers* |
| 09:01.18 | ^majik^ | that =) |
| 09:01.18 | cat | so like that? |
| 09:01.21 | ^majik^ | yup |
| 09:01.23 | cat | sanxiyn: like that? |
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| 09:01.25 | Overand | was that intentional? |
| 09:01.29 | sanxiyn | spamhog: That must be useful :-) |
| 09:01.45 | sanxiyn | cat: spamhog said he can give you his grub conf, set to boot Win in /dev/hda1 |
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| 09:01.59 | spamhog | OK, I get snoopin' into my /boot... |
| 09:02.04 | cat | oh ok |
| 09:02.05 | cat | gi fir ut |
| 09:02.09 | cat | go for it |
| 09:02.10 | ^majik^ | Overand: yeah, guess so. I picked out the nick, and I just added the caret's around it since it seems the nick is very popular |
| 09:02.30 | Overand | ... |
| 09:02.44 | ^majik^ | what ? |
| 09:03.05 | Overand | then it's not intentional that your name is more or less a pun |
| 09:03.09 | Overand | the caret being 'powers' |
| 09:03.18 | Overand | and 'magic' being a supernatural 'power' |
| 09:03.23 | ^majik^ | if the answer seemed a bit weird, let me tell you that I didn't quite understand your question |
| 09:03.52 | ^majik^ | oh, guess not then |
| 09:04.19 | ^majik^ | I guess I thought up "magic" at the time, because I'd been playing MUDs |
| 09:04.27 | ^majik^ | and here we are :) |
| 09:06.03 | Overand | I just know someone on anothernetwork whos nick is Magical^^ |
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| 09:06.23 | Overand | and when you joined, i figured out that his nick was a pun, even though i've known him for, what, 2 or 3 years now, |
| 09:06.45 | ^majik^ | ah =] |
| 09:07.00 | esskay | if one is using gdm, how does one ensure that the $SHELL environment variable is set when users log on? |
| 09:07.19 | Overand | oh good lord |
| 09:07.40 | esskay | cause when people fire emacs directly in X, shell-mode doesn't work cuase teh env. variable is not set. |
| 09:07.44 | Overand | esskay: i know someone from another network named 'eskay' who's...er, dead. |
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| 09:08.14 | esskay | Overand: never mind.. I'm alive and kicking :-) |
| 09:08.45 | Overand | Yeah, and i doubt you'll die by asphyxiation via a nitrous oxide filled trashbag over your head. |
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| 09:10.43 | paulswm | he might if he doesn't get emacs going for his users |
| 09:11.05 | esskay | yeah, and I would love it if you guys can help out. |
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| 09:11.25 | sanxiyn | esskay: Put it in /etc/environment |
| 09:11.28 | paulswm | esskay: I don't use emacs |
| 09:11.56 | paulswm | esskay: they are firing up emacs from a gnome terminal, right? |
| 09:12.01 | esskay | paulswm: it's not an emacs problem really.. it can be fixed within emacs itself..the problem is of defining the variable $SHELL |
| 09:12.07 | esskay | sanxiyn: thanks |
| 09:12.15 | esskay | paulswm: no.. they may fire it from a menu .. |
| 09:12.48 | paulswm | esskay: ok, was going to suggest checking that the gnome terminal was starting up in login mode, all I have |
| 09:13.13 | sanxiyn | esskay: Well, it's a little well hidden, isn't it :-) |
| 09:13.37 | sanxiyn | esskay: Short story: GDM uses PAM. /etc/pam.d/gdm calls pam_env.so, pam_env.so loads /etc/environment, which is undocumented :( |
| 09:14.04 | sanxiyn | What a mess. |
| 09:14.29 | esskay | sanxiyn: okay.. thanks for the info. i don't have an /etc/environment on my system... it's expected to be jsut a shell script right.. |
| 09:14.42 | esskay | sanxiyn: so I can do "SHELL=/bin/bash" ? |
| 09:14.48 | sanxiyn | Yes. |
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| 09:14.53 | AlexW | hi |
| 09:15.03 | sanxiyn | (I have my LANG and XMODIFIERS setting there.) |
| 09:15.09 | paulswm | esskay: and presumably export it |
| 09:15.16 | sanxiyn | To use Korean interface and Korean input method. |
| 09:15.33 | esskay | so I should prepend an export |
| 09:15.40 | sanxiyn | esskay: No. |
| 09:15.52 | AlexW | how do i upgrade sarge -> woody |
| 09:16.00 | saintiss | hi all |
| 09:16.05 | AlexW | woody -> sarge |
| 09:16.14 | saintiss | if I don't want to use netinstall, can I install sarge using only the first iso image? |
| 09:16.25 | jm_ | AlexW: read install guide or /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 09:16.26 | saintiss | or is there a minimum of iso's I need to get a working installation? |
| 09:16.31 | sanxiyn | esskay: Eh, hard to explain, but just assignment will be okay. |
| 09:16.47 | paulswm | saintiss: use the net install iso |
| 09:16.51 | esskay | sanxiyn: okay.. thanks. will check if it works now. |
| 09:16.58 | saintiss | paulswm, but I do not want to use netinstall |
| 09:17.08 | saintiss | I've got an adsl connection, not an ethernet connection |
| 09:17.12 | chealer | saintiss: you can use just 1st CD |
| 09:17.12 | AlexW | what about setting up apt sources |
| 09:17.13 | paulswm | saintiss: sorry, just reread your question |
| 09:17.39 | AlexW | is the a tool to install apt sources |
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| 09:17.44 | saintiss | chealer, ok, thanks... by any chance, do you know if I need much more on top of that 1st cd to get the eagle-usb drivers working? |
| 09:17.50 | saintiss | or are they included in the 1st CD? |
| 09:17.57 | chealer | AlexW: apt-setup |
| 09:18.29 | chealer | saintiss: no idea about those, but I would guess that if this is supported all drivers would be on first CD |
| 09:18.40 | sanxiyn | saintiss: Well, is eagle-usb driver (I don't know what that is) several megabytes? :-) |
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| 09:19.04 | Jonny_Depp | http://www.boingboing.net/2005/01/27/jailed_for_using_a_n.html |
| 09:19.12 | sanxiyn | Getting whole base system via net is annoying, but couple package is okay I think. |
| 09:19.16 | jm_ | heh interesting how this URL is circulating on RIC |
| 09:19.17 | jm_ | IRC |
| 09:19.18 | saintiss | sanxiyn, not so many I'd think... it's just an adsl driver for certain modems |
| 09:19.41 | saintiss | can I check somewhere what packages are on which iso's? |
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| 09:19.52 | chealer | saintiss: if you can, tell me |
| 09:20.06 | Rawplayer | lol jm_ |
| 09:20.08 | Rawplayer | Jonny_Depp |
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| 09:20.48 | AlexW | is sarge stable |
| 09:20.55 | humbolt | is debian 2.6 kernel image preempt??? |
| 09:20.58 | directhex|work | more than stable enough for most users |
| 09:21.29 | AlexW | ahh ok |
| 09:21.30 | AlexW | :) |
| 09:21.49 | AlexW | if debian doesnt recognise my network card, where can i find drivers |
| 09:21.56 | sanxiyn | AlexW: Good luck. |
| 09:21.56 | humbolt | is there a way to activate and deactivate preempt in kernel 2.6? |
| 09:22.12 | AlexW | :P |
| 09:22.27 | AlexW | how do i tell if debian recoginizes it |
| 09:22.58 | Guerin | AlexW: debian doesn't do anything; the kernel does. |
| 09:23.02 | Overand | Jonny_Depp: wow |
| 09:23.05 | Overand | that link is insane |
| 09:23.11 | Guerin | AlexW: and if your kernel sees and recognises it, it'll show in dmesg |
| 09:23.13 | jm_ | humbolt: why don't you check yourself? |
| 09:23.13 | AlexW | ahh yeh :P |
| 09:24.01 | AlexW | do i reboot after dist-upgrade |
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| 09:24.14 | sangers | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:24.25 | sangers | test |
| 09:24.27 | Guerin | wtf |
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| 09:24.33 | Guerin | the whole world is insane |
| 09:24.34 | directhex|work | AlexW, a dist-upgrade from woody to sarge? or generally? |
| 09:24.37 | Guerin | film at 11 |
| 09:24.51 | AlexW | yeh |
| 09:25.00 | AlexW | woody->sarge |
| 09:25.05 | paulswm | *sigh* |
| 09:25.24 | Guerin | *clink* |
| 09:25.32 | paulswm | *chug* |
| 09:25.34 | saintiss | chealer, ok, thx |
| 09:25.34 | Guerin | (and I mean that in the other sense, too) |
| 09:25.44 | directhex|work | AlexW, yes. though i'd install a recent kernel before rebooting |
| 09:25.59 | AlexW | last time i installed a kernel |
| 09:26.03 | AlexW | my system wouldnt boot :P |
| 09:26.07 | paulswm | AlexW: but in general you don't have to reboot |
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| 09:26.31 | chealer | AlexW: the good thing is you just take your previous kernel if that happens |
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| 09:27.13 | sanxiyn | Yeah. |
| 09:27.16 | directhex|work | AlexW, well if you insist on 1) using lilo 2) not keeping an older kernel as a boot option 3) not just damn well installing sarge with d-i, then bad things are bound to happen |
| 09:27.17 | spamhog | Security question: is it true that Sarge still doesn't get served by the security team? Or does it get security updates somehow indirectly? |
| 09:27.32 | Guerin | spamhog: the former |
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| 09:27.34 | Skiver | any recommendation for gui ftp client ? |
| 09:27.46 | Penix | Skiver: gftp |
| 09:27.51 | directhex|work | spamhog, still no security infrastructure in place |
| 09:27.54 | Guerin | spamhog: don't use it for anything external unless you're prepared to backport fixes yourself |
| 09:27.56 | sanxiyn | spamhog: Sarge is not security served, yet. |
| 09:28.10 | Skiver | Penix : can it connect sftp ? |
| 09:28.31 | spamhog | tnx 2 all! wow, seems a high-mindshare matter! |
| 09:28.43 | Guerin | yeah, it's a big issue |
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| 09:28.56 | Guerin | which is hopefully about to be rectified, but isn't yet |
| 09:28.58 | sanxiyn | Skiver: Yes, it can. |
| 09:29.32 | directhex|work | spamhog, once it's rectified, that starts a pretty short countdown to sarge becoming stable, and woody becoming ancient history. |
| 09:29.42 | directhex|work | well, moreso. |
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| 09:30.15 | sanxiyn | Skiver: Works well. |
| 09:30.21 | spamhog | the zit count was down to 65 or so... |
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| 09:30.57 | AlexW | Guerin: how ya going |
| 09:31.05 | sanxiyn | Skiver: Another possibility is using Konqueror or Nautilus. Both do SFTP/FTP well. |
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| 09:31.48 | AlexW | IRSSI :) |
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| 09:32.27 | AlexW | so what kernel should i install |
| 09:32.29 | AlexW | i386 here |
| 09:32.39 | AlexW | 2.4.18 atm |
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| 09:33.27 | paulswm | AlexW: absolutely your choice as to the latest 2.4 or 2.6, there are differing opinions, I'm using 2.6.8 and have no issues, others have I think had issues |
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| 09:34.04 | AlexW | is there a mouse driver |
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| 09:34.13 | sanxiyn | 2.4.27 is the latest deb kernel. 2.4.29 is the latest if you compile. |
| 09:34.13 | AlexW | how do i get a mouse working |
| 09:34.17 | paulswm | AlexW: you could install the latest 2.4, if that works OK then you can try 2.6 and fall back if problems |
| 09:34.19 | sanxiyn | AlexW: Without effort. |
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| 09:34.33 | sanxiyn | (latest, in 2.4 series) |
| 09:34.54 | AlexW | what pakcage is that |
| 09:35.04 | herbi | whats the difference between a .bin and a .iso file? |
| 09:35.05 | directhex|work | use apt-cache search kernel-image. |
| 09:35.19 | herbi | does .bin need some filter before burning? as opposed to being iso9660 compatible |
| 09:35.23 | directhex|work | herbi, .bin can contain multiple data sessions, including audio. iso can't. |
| 09:35.41 | directhex|work | herbi, bin is golden hawk cdrwin format. |
| 09:35.44 | AlexW | herbi: bin usually has a cue too |
| 09:35.55 | herbi | directhex|work, i see. can i still mount .bin in loopback as i do with .iso? can i still burn it in the same way? |
| 09:36.11 | herbi | yeah i see a .cue and a .nfo here, can someone enlighten me? |
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| 09:36.33 | AlexW | if i go apt-get install kde |
| 09:36.42 | AlexW | will it install everything i need to run a gui |
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| 09:36.46 | herbi | yes. |
| 09:36.47 | AlexW | e.g. video ... |
| 09:36.54 | directhex|work | herbi, nfo is a file from whichever warez group gave you the files, with info in it |
| 09:37.05 | directhex|work | AlexW, x-window-system as well |
| 09:37.05 | herbi | directhex|work, it isnt warez... |
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| 09:37.13 | herbi | its a chemistry reference in digital form |
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| 09:37.22 | newbie | hello all |
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| 09:37.26 | AlexW | err i need to configure my bootloader |
| 09:37.28 | coywolf | Why Free Software usability tends to suck |
| 09:37.28 | newbie | gah |
| 09:37.30 | guitaro | help, I put some scripts in cron.daily but they dont get executed... what do I need to do? |
| 09:37.32 | directhex|work | herbi, a cuesheet contains the information as to what goes where on the disc. |
| 09:37.35 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
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| 09:37.45 | directhex|work | herbi, bchunk is a tool to convert cue/bin to iso, which you can mount |
| 09:37.49 | herbi | directhex|work, ah right...are the unix utilities for burning with .cue and .bin, etc? |
| 09:37.51 | herbi | ah |
| 09:37.53 | PEACEYALL | is there any power saving tools in debian? |
| 09:38.17 | AlexW | isnt my bootloader already configured |
| 09:38.19 | AlexW | ? |
| 09:38.20 | sanxiyn | herbi: cdrdao does that. |
| 09:38.39 | sanxiyn | herbi: bchunk is for converting to iso file format, but if you just want burning, anything based on cdrdao will work. |
| 09:38.43 | directhex|work | AlexW, lilo needs a fair degree of self configuration. grub does things by itself |
| 09:38.46 | sanxiyn | (dao = Disk At Once) |
| 09:38.59 | AlexW | so install grub instead? |
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| 09:39.09 | herbi | yeah i think bchunk is the way to go for me |
| 09:39.33 | directhex|work | AlexW, that's one option. |
| 09:39.35 | sanxiyn | herbi: You want loopback mount? Then right. |
| 09:39.38 | AlexW | is there a grub setup tooL? |
| 09:40.08 | directhex|work | AlexW, how much important work is on this system? am i remembering wrong, or were you here before refusing to install sarge because it isn't "stable", despite everyone's advice that sarge was your best bet? |
| 09:40.16 | AlexW | none |
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| 09:40.25 | AlexW | as long as it doesnt touch the windows drive |
| 09:40.39 | sanxiyn | It doesn't. |
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| 09:40.54 | AlexW | well then :P |
| 09:40.58 | directhex|work | AlexW, honestly? i think your best bet is a fresh sarge install, rather than trying to clean up mess |
| 09:41.05 | herbi | i love you guys |
| 09:41.16 | herbi | you always know how to answer my questions |
| 09:41.16 | AlexW | so what burn sarge-netinst |
| 09:41.33 | directhex|work | !tell AlexW about d-i |
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| 09:41.47 | HankH | speaking of sarge.....have you guys had any luck with sound cards in sarge? particularly alsa? |
| 09:42.04 | directhex|work | yes, i have. |
| 09:42.16 | Skiver | no problem with alsa. |
| 09:42.39 | guitaro | !tell guiitaro about cron |
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| 09:43.09 | Giordano | hi, do yu know if exists a FIREFOX chan? |
| 09:43.16 | anibal | !tell anibal about bzip2 |
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| 09:43.25 | ellen | hei |
| 09:43.39 | guitaro | !tell guitaro about cron |
| 09:43.53 | ekaf | !tell ekaf about d-i |
| 09:44.04 | paulswm | !beer herbi |
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| 09:44.57 | herbi | i used bzip2 at work the other day |
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| 09:45.11 | SilverX | hello |
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| 09:45.26 | herbi | was browsing through the backup logs directory on the backup server, ran a du -sh noticed it was at _131M_ |
| 09:45.33 | herbi | ran bzip2, hoping to get it down somewhat |
| 09:45.39 | herbi | at the end of compression, it was 800kb |
| 09:45.51 | anibal | herbi, I maintain bzip2 |
| 09:46.08 | SilverX | my machine have aache + php , withg phpmyadmin, then my client need upload .sql file by phpmyadmin, but the file are 80mb, and he recive error when is uploading i dont know why, maybe the upload is limited, how can i change this? |
| 09:46.15 | herbi | anibal, then id like to congratulate you for freeing up 130M of space on my works backup server |
| 09:46.17 | sanxiyn | anibal: Wow. |
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| 09:46.40 | anibal | herbi, thanks for using it :) |
| 09:46.45 | sanxiyn | SilverX: PHP upload is limited, yes. |
| 09:46.47 | guitaro | what do I have to do to get my scripts in cron.daily to execute daily? permissions are ok |
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| 09:47.21 | herbi | sanxiyn, google confirms. |
| 09:47.34 | SilverX | sanxiyn, i edited the php.ini, this line: upload_max_filesize = 100M, but not works |
| 09:47.36 | sanxiyn | herbi: Well, apt-cache confirms, too :-) |
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| 09:48.09 | herbi | anibal, can i ask you something? |
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| 09:48.21 | CleeK | lo |
| 09:48.33 | anibal | herbi, yes? |
| 09:48.47 | herbi | anibal, i run a linux distro called herbix, and because of its size limitations, i need to use things like strip, gcc -Os and gzexe |
| 09:48.54 | herbi | how come there is no kickass bz2exe? |
| 09:48.59 | herbi | i would like that |
| 09:49.02 | sanxiyn | SilverX: Eh uh. |
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| 09:49.11 | sanxiyn | SilverX: There can be lots of reasons... |
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| 09:49.44 | SilverX | then how can i upload this sql file? |
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| 09:49.54 | SilverX | maybe i can load the sql by the shell? |
| 09:50.11 | Rawplayer | mysql < file.sql |
| 09:50.13 | Rawplayer | ? |
| 09:50.20 | herbi | or just use mysqldump |
| 09:50.23 | herbi | der |
| 09:50.25 | herbi | :D |
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| 09:51.11 | SilverX | Rawplayer, only? i dont need specify the user? or pass or bd? |
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| 09:51.55 | anibal | herbi, could you please file a wishlist bug report about bz2exe and I'll look at that? |
| 09:52.27 | herbi | i could, but im extremely lazy |
| 09:52.32 | herbi | and you dont know how extremely lazy that is |
| 09:52.43 | sanxiyn | Heh. Then perhaps I can do that :-) |
| 09:52.47 | Rawplayer | what fits for you |
| 09:52.48 | herbi | i mean so extremely lazy, that you shouldnt be surprised if im dictacting this line to my typer monkey |
| 09:53.05 | herbi | of course, im not, but dont be surprised if someday soon i am |
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| 09:53.21 | anibal | herbi, :) |
| 09:53.32 | guitaro | dpkg, who are you? |
| 09:53.32 | dpkg | I'm a chimp! |
| 09:53.44 | vota_claus | hi there. is it correct that apache doesn't use host_access rules? |
| 09:53.44 | herbi | dpkg, how do you feel about typing? |
| 09:53.46 | dpkg | herbi: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 09:54.06 | MobyTurbo | herbi: /msg the bots |
| 09:54.09 | herbi | dpkg, sure. you press buttons on a keyboard that correspond to appropriate letters. the letters form words, and humans use them to cmmunicate. |
| 09:54.09 | dpkg | You are moron #11, herbi |
| 09:54.13 | herbi | :D |
| 09:54.23 | herbi | MobyTurbo, i was just kidding. i know its a bot |
| 09:55.03 | Rawplayer | herbi: excuses |
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| 10:02.27 | mixter | hi! i have a laptop, and it doesn't turn off when i run halt, what could i do so that the computer shuts itself down automatically? |
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| 10:02.28 | sanxiyn | herbi: It is said that sed -e 's/gzip/bzip2' on gzexe will produce bz2exe. |
| 10:02.28 | herbi | mixter, what does it do when you run halt? |
| 10:02.28 | sanxiyn | :-) |
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| 10:02.28 | herbi | sanxiyn, youre probably right, now that i think about it |
| 10:02.28 | toresbe | mixter: Shut it off and pretend it was Linux? :) |
| 10:02.29 | caustic | hi all.root cant get into X,sarge |
| 10:02.29 | mixter | herbi: it shuts down linux correctly, but it just says "Shut down" when its finished |
| 10:02.29 | sanxiyn | Well, nice to have it though. Should be suggested upstream? |
| 10:02.29 | herbi | ah |
| 10:02.29 | MobyTurbo | sanxiyn: herbi that sounds like a bad idea if it's a binary, the strings aren't te same size. |
| 10:02.29 | herbi | you need apm support |
| 10:02.29 | mixter | herbi: ok... is that included in the standard woody kernel? |
| 10:02.29 | herbi | MobyTurbo, gzexe doesnt really work like that |
| 10:02.29 | sanxiyn | MobyTurbo: ? |
| 10:02.29 | sanxiyn | MobyTurbo: gzexe is a shell script. |
| 10:02.29 | herbi | mixter, it should be. but you also need to apt-get install apm or apmd or whatever the apm package is |
| 10:02.29 | mixter | herbi: ah! ok... |
| 10:02.29 | MobyTurbo | sanxiyn: never mind then... :-) |
| 10:02.30 | herbi | MobyTurbo, gzexe is a kind of wrapper ...like a shell version of zlib i guess |
| 10:02.50 | mixter | herbi: there is an apmd-package... i'll try to install thatone |
| 10:03.03 | paulswm | caustic: intentionally, you sholdn't be loggin into an x session as root. Log in as a normal user and use sudo or su when you need to do root stuff |
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| 10:03.19 | Gh0sty | Hello |
| 10:03.26 | mixter | herbi: thanks! |
| 10:03.34 | anibal | sanxiyn, have you tested sed -e 's/gzip/bzip2' on gzexe? |
| 10:03.54 | MobyTurbo | for plain shutting off the power I've found that adding apm with modconf was sufficient. |
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| 10:04.13 | sanxiyn | anibal: Now I did. |
| 10:04.28 | caustic | paulswm:but tell how to do |
| 10:04.31 | sanxiyn | anibal: It nearly works. It need s,/bin/gzip,/usr/bin/bzip2 in addition though. |
| 10:04.44 | sanxiyn | anibal: Yes, it works. |
| 10:05.19 | sanxiyn | MobyTurbo: But ACPI is more k3wl ;> |
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| 10:06.28 | anibal | sanxiyn, if that's the case, file the bug with those commands, tag the bug patch, and your name will be in the bzip2 changelog file |
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| 10:06.52 | sanxiyn | anibal: w00t! |
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| 10:09.01 | Faithful | Hey guys I have something I've never seen before when I ping with large packets I get "wrong data byte #218 should be 0xda but was 0xd8" anyone seen this before? |
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| 10:09.13 | paulswm | caustic: nothing against you, but I think it's a really bad idea. Maybe someone else here will advise you. |
| 10:09.54 | mixter | herbi: apm is included in the kernel, but disabled.... i added 'append="apm=on"' in lilo.conf to enable apm in the kernel. now it works just fine... thanks for helping me in the right direction! |
| 10:10.10 | caustic | paulswm:thx |
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| 10:10.23 | herbi | mixter, possibly, but you still need apmd. |
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| 10:10.55 | MobyTurbo | sanxiyn: acpi isn't cool on my computer, it's a good way of locking it up - a buggy BIOS I assume. |
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| 10:11.03 | sanxiyn | MobyTurbo: Too bad. |
| 10:11.14 | herbi | anibal, i propose a motion that you hang here so i can say to people i talk to the guy who maintains bzip2 |
| 10:11.16 | herbi | i second that motion |
| 10:11.17 | herbi | i third it |
| 10:11.19 | herbi | motion passed. |
| 10:11.19 | Faithful | Hey guys I have something I've never seen before when I ping with large packets I get "wrong data byte #218 should be 0xda but was 0xd8" anyone seen this before? |
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| 10:11.30 | MobyTurbo | sanxiyn: it's a desktop anyway, so I don't need it. |
| 10:11.32 | anibal | herbi, NP |
| 10:11.36 | cyberyo | io |
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| 10:12.03 | anibal | herbi, how many clones do you have? |
| 10:12.20 | herbi | MobyTurbo, not many people know about gzexe, but in semi static or embedded enviroments with some volatile memory access, its quite useful |
| 10:12.23 | herbi | anibal, 0 many? |
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| 10:12.27 | herbi | why? |
| 10:12.40 | herbi | im not the kind to keep clones |
| 10:12.44 | caustic | paulswm:root cannot enter into X,its kdm's fault,but tell why when startx,it just say,cannot connect to X server? |
| 10:13.07 | MobyTurbo | herbi: I remember something like that in MS-DOS that I used. |
| 10:13.20 | anibal | herbi, becuase three herbies were in favor of herbi's motion :) |
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| 10:13.32 | herbi | anibal, oh right...sorry..im a nutbag :P |
| 10:13.32 | caustic | paulwsm:and i only enter /etc/init.d/kdm,X work |
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| 10:13.35 | mixter | herbi: don't need apmd to get the computer to turn off, it would be nice to save some power, but the computer will be on permanent power, so i don't need to preserve battery power |
| 10:13.45 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | hello, im running debian from my server, what i want to do is setup a ftp adress that will allow me to copy files onto my server so then i can access them. |
| 10:13.49 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | if u can help pm plz |
| 10:13.55 | paulswm | caustic: looks to me as though X isn't set up right, I am not an X expert |
| 10:14.09 | MobyTurbo | !u |
| 10:14.09 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 10:14.41 | caustic | paulswm:well........ |
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| 10:15.05 | enver555 | hi |
| 10:15.20 | bG|[K]ostas`v2 | hello, im running debian from my server, what i want to do is setup a ftp adress that will allow me to copy files onto my server so then i can access them. pm if u can help |
| 10:15.27 | paulswm | caustic: ask your wuestion in here, someone I'm sure will help you, I can't. |
| 10:15.39 | rsalazar | what is the place to configure maximum memory segments size? |
| 10:15.50 | caustic | paulswm:im so sorry to waste your time |
| 10:15.51 | MobyTurbo | !repeat |
| 10:15.51 | dpkg | i guess repeat is if nobody answers your question, don't just repeat it. Spamming the channel and getting ignored/banned/silenced isn't going to get a faster answer; spamming is a function of time. More likely, nobody knows the answer (/msg dpkg ask), or you need to provide more information (/msg apt sicco)), or ask about "smart questions" |
| 10:16.00 | enver555 | i want to download the source code of debian intaller from CVS |
| 10:16.14 | enver555 | where is this_ |
| 10:16.16 | enver555 | ? |
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| 10:16.25 | paulswm | caustic: you aren't wasting my time, but I would be wasting yours if I gave you wrong answers :) |
| 10:16.28 | CleeK | what's the difference between http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20050126/ and http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/20050126/ ? md5sums are different |
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| 10:17.19 | principerobot | cioo |
| 10:17.29 | caustic | paulswm:im a debian fan ,not expert ,so...any try will be my experience |
| 10:17.33 | principerobot | can sameone help me |
| 10:17.48 | principerobot | please? |
| 10:18.00 | principerobot | I have Ubuntu on my laptop |
| 10:18.12 | sanxiyn | anibal: now doing that... |
| 10:18.15 | MobyTurbo | principerobot: /topic |
| 10:18.23 | principerobot | and I cannot see the battery status |
| 10:18.39 | MobyTurbo | principerobot: Ubuntu is not Debian |
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| 10:19.06 | fudje | Ave |
| 10:20.32 | fudje | Do we have support for IEEE1394b? |
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| 10:25.13 | cdc | i am using Debian Sarge i want to upgrade the verison of KDE how do i do that? |
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| 10:25.21 | cdc | i want only a KDE upgrade |
| 10:25.25 | cdc | how do i do that |
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| 10:25.32 | sanxiyn | Hm. |
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| 10:27.24 | cdc | sanso, how do i do that any idea? |
| 10:27.40 | cdc | sanxiyn, oops sorry how do i do that ? :-) |
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| 10:27.56 | anibal | sanxiyn, thanks for your bug report, I appreciate it very much (patches are always more than welcome) :) |
| 10:28.03 | ifndefx | hi, If I have a HD on a linux box with partitions formatted in NTFS, which OS will write to it if a windows box access the linux box and stores a file on the HD with the NTFS partition? |
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| 10:29.12 | bob2 | if you mean "can I run samba pointed at a ntfs partition?" then no |
| 10:29.31 | ifndefx | yeah pretty much... |
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| 10:29.54 | cdc | i am using Debian Sarge i want to upgrade the verison of KDE how do i do that? |
| 10:30.08 | DerJamster | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 10:30.24 | sanxiyn | DerJamster: cdc want to upgrade *only* KDE. |
| 10:30.28 | ifndefx | I read some docs sayng that samba can write to a NTFS partition but it is not safe, and I have a 200gig partition with alot of stuff on it, I don't want to loose all of it |
| 10:30.34 | cdc | yes thanks sanxiyn |
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| 10:30.46 | cdc | DerJamster, i dont want to upgrade other stuff just KDE alone |
| 10:31.05 | zeeble | cdc: try #debian-kde |
| 10:31.20 | CleeK | ifndefx : do you know captive-ntfs |
| 10:31.23 | DerJamster | Read up on package pinning in the apt-get howto on debian.org |
| 10:31.43 | ifndefx | cleek : no haven't heard of captive-ntfs |
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| 10:32.30 | CleeK | ifndefx : it's something that uses windows ntfs drivers to read/write on a ntfs partition |
| 10:32.36 | sanxiyn | !captive |
| 10:32.36 | dpkg | it has been said that captive is The first free NTFS read/write filesystem for GNU/Linux. http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ |
| 10:32.49 | sanxiyn | CleeK: Yes, by adapting Wine loader. |
| 10:32.58 | CleeK | so ntfs writing is not dangerous anymore (myabe) |
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| 10:33.27 | CleeK | maybe it's possible to use this in samba with a win-hook or something like this |
| 10:33.29 | AlexW | sup :) |
| 10:33.38 | mnm | hi, all looking 4 help with ati ixp sound on laptop |
| 10:34.01 | lucox | hi everybody , i have problem with my .Xdefaults .... friend has gentoo and works but me not ... |
| 10:34.04 | ifndefx | ahh excellent, I'll check that out |
| 10:34.06 | mnm | have compile into kernel 2.6.10 but no luck |
| 10:34.18 | CleeK | BTW, nobody knows what's the difference between http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20050126/ and http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/20050126/ ? md5sums are different |
| 10:34.37 | mnm | get error when trying to load snd-atixp |
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| 10:35.27 | sanxiyn | Captive is cool. |
| 10:35.28 | sanxiyn | http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/dia/arch-all.png |
| 10:35.33 | sanxiyn | That is crazy enough. Isn't it? |
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| 10:36.24 | anibal | CleeK, ask on #debian-boot |
| 10:36.24 | booyaa | hey dudes |
| 10:36.32 | CleeK | thanks anibal |
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| 10:37.03 | booyaa | i'm not getting a lot of usefull info via google here, what do you setup in gnome 2.8 to serve sound to remote logins (xdmcp)? |
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| 10:37.39 | AlexW | exit |
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| 10:37.59 | sanxiyn | booyaa: AFAIK, you can't. |
| 10:38.30 | sanxiyn | Or... |
| 10:38.31 | sanxiyn | !nas |
| 10:38.31 | dpkg | well, nas is a network audio system, a lot like esound with special features, like a module wich can hijack your /dev/dsp on clients. (libaudiooss/http://www.mo.himolde.no/~knan/linux.html). Network Attached Storage |
| 10:38.35 | caustic | apt-cache search software,but i just want to know name,how to do?apt-cache search --name-only software? |
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| 10:39.07 | booyaa | *hmmm* at least now i have more to google on |
| 10:39.08 | booyaa | danke |
| 10:39.09 | anibal | sanxiyn: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=292485 |
| 10:39.43 | sanxiyn | w00t! |
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| 10:42.21 | sanxiyn | http://bugs.debian.org/from:tinuviel@fluid.sparcs.net , too. |
| 10:42.31 | anibal | CleeK, Kamion is one of the RMs (Release Managers) |
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| 10:44.02 | sanxiyn | bye |
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| 10:44.51 | encoree | can someone to help to reapair boot of one raid1 ... |
| 10:45.12 | Skiver | caustic : can u be more specific ? |
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| 10:52.09 | caustic | Skiver:whats wrong? |
| 10:52.41 | ntoll | how do I set the server_name for apache2 in debian? |
| 10:52.50 | kostasK | How can I make programs (like wget) in general use a proxyserver by default. If I can't do it in general, how do I do it just for wget. Man pages only mention setting the username and other things, not a flag for the proxyserver name (I couldn't find it) |
| 10:53.06 | jm_ | wget honours http_proxy variable |
| 10:53.23 | jm_ | read info pages for wget instead |
| 10:53.49 | kostasK | ok, (I read the wget pages) so I set that in bash_profile and I'm good to go? |
| 10:54.19 | kostasK | wait, ah the INFO pages.. right |
| 10:54.20 | ntoll | I've set "ServerName myServer" in httpd.conf but the name is still set to localhost..... :-( and of course I've restarted the service after changing the settings |
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| 10:55.38 | Skiver | caustic : you just want the package names and not the descriptions ? |
| 10:56.03 | caustic | yes,is -name-only? |
| 10:58.30 | Skiver | caustic : apt-cache pkgnames |
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| 10:59.48 | caustic | it doesnt work |
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| 11:00.03 | Indal | hmm what would i do if i had a file but i only want one user access to it? |
| 11:00.12 | Indal | chown for that user? |
| 11:01.01 | Skiver | it works here |
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| 11:01.49 | anibal | kostasK, put 'export http_proxy=<your-http-proxy>' in .bash_profile, as jm_ have suggested already |
| 11:02.34 | anibal | s/have/has |
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| 11:04.27 | caustic | Skiver:maybe you have configed your /etc/apt/apt.conf?show it to me ,OK? |
| 11:04.43 | yalu | how can I check what blocksize an ext2/3 filesystem has? |
| 11:04.56 | Skiver | caustic : it is default, check your command properly |
| 11:05.14 | Skiver | caustic : apt-cache -h |
| 11:05.24 | Skiver | caustic : it is listed there |
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| 11:06.58 | caustic | Skiver:OK.thx |
| 11:07.11 | AlexW | wow i just got spammed |
| 11:07.12 | AlexW | (22:05:48) (__]GW{M|) Come watch me on my webcam and chat /w me :-) **** |
| 11:07.46 | trilokmmm | any female web cam is there |
| 11:08.00 | kostasK | I did export http_proxy=name_of_server:portnumber, but links and wget still don't work. (I use the same proxyname in apt.conf and that works) |
| 11:08.19 | kostasK | should it be upc or lwc? |
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| 11:08.52 | caustic | Skiver:I mistake pkgnames as software name,but I want to know another way |
| 11:09.13 | kostasK | the gnu manual says lowercase |
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| 11:09.25 | Skiver | caustic : apt-cache pkgnames | grep yournamehere |
| 11:09.27 | Xtr3 | i need feedback on a couple business name ideas that i have for an information technology business.. what do you think about "revosense" or "revogin"? |
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| 11:09.41 | anibal | kostasK, for me it looks like this: export http_proxy=http://muisca:3128 |
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| 11:10.03 | cipherz | so whats the status on debian and pgsql 8.0 ? |
| 11:10.07 | anibal | kostasK, and similarly for proxy_ftp |
| 11:10.32 | kostasK | anibal, looks like what I did. |
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| 11:11.44 | anibal | kostasK, I didn't the http:// bit in what you did |
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| 11:11.56 | ke|z | lo |
| 11:12.08 | ke|z | anyone can help me about audacity please? |
| 11:12.08 | anibal | kostasK, I didn't see the http:// bit in what you did |
| 11:12.11 | kostasK | anibal, I tried both |
| 11:12.27 | anibal | kostasK, ok |
| 11:12.43 | SlayerXP | ke|z: don't ask metaquestions |
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| 11:13.00 | guitaro | dpkg, tell me about love |
| 11:13.04 | ke|z | ok... |
| 11:13.13 | yalu | ok smart guys |
| 11:13.20 | humbolt | iptables question: can I use connmark in combination with owner --uid-owner to somehow count all tcp traffic of one user but not only OUTPUT but also INPUT traffic? |
| 11:13.22 | kostasK | anibal, aha actually it works, just links don't use that var.. |
| 11:13.28 | toresbe | dpkg: what is love? |
| 11:13.30 | dpkg | toresbe: I think you lost me on that one |
| 11:13.36 | kostasK | anibal, wget works now |
| 11:13.40 | toresbe | baby don't hurt me - don't hurt me - no more |
| 11:13.47 | yalu | can anyone tell me if it's possible to run e2fsck to indicate bad blocks, but start near the end of the disk? I know there are some bad blocks there |
| 11:13.54 | anibal | kostasK, good :) |
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| 11:14.02 | kostasK | is it possible to set a variable for all users? |
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| 11:14.24 | anibal | kostasK, yep, in /etc/profile |
| 11:14.33 | ke|z | when i record a 2nd track with audacity, the record is 6 tones under the real one, with 3 plops/second ... does this mean that i need to buy a new soundcard? |
| 11:15.03 | kostasK | anibal, thanks.. that should solve my problems for now :-D |
| 11:15.06 | SlayerXP | ke|z: this is #debian not #soundcardadvice |
| 11:15.14 | ke|z | ... |
| 11:15.14 | anibal | kostasK, NP |
| 11:15.21 | ke|z | SlayerXP, :þ |
| 11:15.52 | ke|z | i just want to know if anyone gotten the same problem |
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| 11:16.12 | nkuttler | ke|z: try asking on the appropriate channel oder mailing list |
| 11:16.42 | ke|z | there are not linux's users here? |
| 11:16.53 | SlayerXP | ke|z: without a doubt someone somewhere has had the same problem. |
| 11:17.30 | ke|z | clap² SlayerXP |
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| 11:18.04 | ke|z | do you got more strong and simple truth to say me, or i can leave? |
| 11:18.20 | jethro | ke|z: stfu, then leavev |
| 11:18.21 | nkuttler | !tell ke|z about smart questions |
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| 11:18.59 | caustic | Skiver:i get it !apt-cache search --names-only software. |
| 11:19.19 | SlayerXP | ke|z: we won't answer questions about cat husbandry either |
| 11:19.32 | nextime | hi, anyone know a good mailing list manager with a complete SQL db support ( mysql or pgsql are better than others ) and virtualhost support? |
| 11:20.09 | jethro | !tell nextime about anyone |
| 11:20.38 | ke|z | this was really interresting, i didn't ask you what is in your mind, i just wanted : yes/no ... i don't need support |
| 11:21.14 | SlayerXP | ke|z: I answered your question already: yes, someone else has had that problem |
| 11:21.15 | nkuttler | ke|z: ok, sorry for trying to help |
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| 11:21.19 | nkuttler | bad habit |
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| 11:21.37 | SlayerXP | if you don't like the answer then try asking a better question |
| 11:21.46 | nextime | jethro : silence or a simple "no" was enought |
| 11:21.55 | jethro | ke|z: just fucking shut up if it's not to ask about debian specific problems |
| 11:22.01 | ke|z | i don't use talking english... i'm gulty of this? |
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| 11:22.07 | faber2 | how can i use apt-get to find out what specific versions of say "php4" can be installed on my system? |
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| 11:22.24 | jethro | nextime: I couldn't care less about what you just said |
| 11:22.27 | Shadur | faber2: Not. That's something you'd ask dpkg |
| 11:22.29 | nkuttler | faber2: use apt-cache |
| 11:22.30 | pusakat | faber2: use apt-cache |
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| 11:22.42 | mess | hello |
| 11:22.46 | SlayerXP | apt-cache will show you what's _available_ |
| 11:22.57 | SlayerXP | that's not neccesarily what's installed |
| 11:22.57 | faber2 | ok, how does apt-cache tell me what _versions_ are available? |
| 11:23.08 | mess | i want to set an aplication to start automatic with every reboot |
| 11:23.12 | Shadur | faber2: apt-cache show |
| 11:23.13 | mess | how can i do that? |
| 11:23.13 | SlayerXP | faber2: apt-cache show <package< |
| 11:23.22 | Shadur | mess: Add an init.d script, or use cron |
| 11:23.24 | nkuttler | SlayerXP: policy |
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| 11:23.33 | mess | ok |
| 11:23.36 | guitaro | mess, create a script in init.d |
| 11:23.38 | jethro | faber2: you can still dpkg -l php\* |
| 11:23.41 | SlayerXP | nkuttler: errm, whelks |
| 11:24.12 | encoree | i hope inventor of devfsd to die soon in pain |
| 11:24.13 | encoree | :((((( |
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| 11:24.23 | directhex|work | !devfs |
| 11:24.23 | dpkg | from memory, devfs is a virtual fs, like /proc, but for /dev, so that you only have the files in /dev that you need . Located at http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/kernel-patches.html, Ask me about 'devfsd', 'devfs howto', or apt-get install devfsd, or http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/docs/devfs.html, or it isn't impossible to get working, but sometimes a big PITA, or http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105851630726585&w=2, or a bad idea! |
| 11:24.35 | paulswm | mess: man update-rc.d |
| 11:24.55 | faber2 | slayer: good, found the versions. how can i then tell apt-get to install a specific version, rather than its default? |
| 11:25.02 | anibal | faber2, 'apt-cache showpkg bzip2 portmap' is much better |
| 11:25.38 | Shadur | Not so much a bad idea as just the first solution to an existing problem -- and like most first attempts at a new concept, it was massively less than optimal. |
| 11:25.46 | guitaro | dpkg, what is netsplit? |
| 11:25.47 | dpkg | guitaro: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 11:26.29 | RichiH | !netsplit |
| 11:26.29 | dpkg | well, netsplit is A deliberate disconnection between (at least) two servers on one IRC network. Usually occurs when the output-queue for the link has filled up too much to make a timely (re)sync likely, so it's preferred to maintain sanity (and lag-freeness) for both parts of the network. Occurs anywhere where links between IRC-servers have too little bandwidth (available/allocated). |
| 11:26.31 | faber2 | anibal: how do i tell apt-get to install the version i want? |
| 11:26.36 | jethro | faber2: did you consider typing man apt-get in a shell to avoid asking such basic stuff every debian user should know? |
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| 11:26.50 | tobehz | Is there anything set that should be setup besides putting the user in the audio group when trying to get audio working? |
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| 11:27.10 | jethro | tobehz: load the appropriate modules? |
| 11:27.18 | tobehz | Audio works as root, but nothing else. (I can open xmms as root and audio works, but not any way else) |
| 11:27.37 | caustic | any good ebook about debian? |
| 11:27.41 | Skiver | tobehz : add user to audio group |
| 11:27.44 | faber2 | jethro: no |
| 11:27.49 | jethro | tobehz: type id in a shell and make sure you're in the right group |
| 11:27.52 | tobehz | Skiver: read sir. :> |
| 11:27.54 | jethro | faber2: well start with this |
| 11:28.12 | faber2 | jethro: some people like to answer easy questions. take me as an example. |
| 11:28.24 | paulswm | faber2: apt-get install <package> - if there are different versions available, they will be different packages |
| 11:28.30 | jethro | faber2: some people also like to have others think for them, take you as an example |
| 11:28.58 | pusakat | tobehz: make sure the audio /dev files are g+rw |
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| 11:29.33 | faber2 | paul: and this i think is not true. i do the apt-cache showpkg and it shows me at least 5 versions |
| 11:29.38 | caustic | tobehz:just adduser user audio |
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| 11:29.56 | anibal | faber2, as jethro suggested, man apt-get has the answer, you won't miss it |
| 11:29.56 | tobehz | caustic: maybe you missed me saying I did |
| 11:30.05 | tobehz | what is with people and refusing to read? |
| 11:30.16 | faber2 | jethro: that is the nice thing about easy questions: you dont have to think. if you have to think it means its not an easy question in the first place. |
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| 11:30.20 | caustic | tobehz:sorry |
| 11:30.40 | tobehz | pusakat: just did that for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer, to no avail. :/ |
| 11:30.48 | jethro | faber2: the nice thing about stupid people is that they always believe they behave the right way |
| 11:30.49 | Skiver | tobehz : there was a netsplit. |
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| 11:31.09 | pusakat | tobehz: how about /dev/audio* ? |
| 11:31.10 | Mike-- | hello |
| 11:31.13 | tobehz | Skiver: ... he is in here O_o |
| 11:31.33 | anibal | jethro, there are no such people |
| 11:31.52 | paulswm | faber2: man apt-get, it's all there, read for yourself |
| 11:32.24 | caustic | Skiver:any good ebook about debian? |
| 11:32.24 | jethro | anibal: just do a /n here and see if there aren't any |
| 11:32.30 | Skiver | !dpkg debian faq |
| 11:32.31 | dpkg | somebody said debian faq was at http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ |
| 11:32.42 | faber2 | jethro: you calling me stupid? |
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| 11:32.47 | paulswm | oh, someone already told him/her |
| 11:32.50 | Mike-- | anyone know why when /etc/security/limits.conf is set and in /etc/pam.d/login the limits module is included, debian doesn't process the limits? |
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| 11:33.28 | jethro | faber2: I guess it wasn't an easy question since you had to ask, but yes, I do |
| 11:33.34 | tobehz | pusakat: set, and xmms still can't open the mixer and won't play |
| 11:34.14 | caustic | tobehz:restart your x |
| 11:34.40 | nksen | anyone tried the sarge floppys for install lately? i just get READY after bootup and after this the system reboots. any hints? |
| 11:34.58 | mess | how can i install mysql package pls? |
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| 11:35.26 | tobehz | caustic: didn't do anything, heh |
| 11:36.01 | caustic | tobehz: xmms work after i restart my x |
| 11:36.22 | tobehz | caustic: maybe you use kde |
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| 11:36.29 | tobehz | ie. artsd |
| 11:36.31 | caustic | tobehz:yes |
| 11:36.42 | mess | how can i install mysql package pls? |
| 11:36.52 | faber2 | jethro: call me lazy, not stupid |
| 11:36.56 | Shadur | mess: apt-get install mysql-server |
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| 11:37.11 | Mike-- | anyone? |
| 11:37.14 | faber2 | jethro: apt-get install <package>=<version>, does it. |
| 11:37.16 | Shadur | faber2: If you're going to insist on being insulted worse than we felt you're worth... |
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| 11:37.37 | jethro | faber2: you are lazy in the first place and stupid for arguing when one tells you how you can fix your problem, pretending you like to have others think for you |
| 11:37.51 | jethro | faber2: and I can man apt-get and knew about this, thanks |
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| 11:37.55 | caustic | mess:apt-cache search mysql,and apt-get install the package you want |
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| 11:38.17 | war | How do I check the integrity of the debian packages that I have installed? |
| 11:38.27 | jethro | faber2: now let's put an end to it |
| 11:39.17 | paulswm | !jethro++ |
| 11:39.23 | petemc | war: debsums |
| 11:39.30 | Mike-- | is there really no-one with experience in limits.conf? |
| 11:39.36 | anibal | !maint portmap |
| 11:39.41 | dpkg | portmap: Anibal Monsalve Salazar <A.Monsalve.Salazar@IEEE.org> |
| 11:39.58 | bob2 | chill people |
| 11:40.00 | anibal | that's me |
| 11:40.16 | SiliconViper | http://siliconviper.whatthefork.org/screenshots/lo/debian-0002-yummy.png |
| 11:40.27 | anibal | !maint bzip2 |
| 11:40.27 | war | pet*mc: thx |
| 11:40.29 | dpkg | bzip2: Anibal Monsalve Salazar <A.Monsalve.Salazar@IEEE.org> |
| 11:40.34 | SiliconViper | Improved from the setup I had last night. |
| 11:40.48 | bob2 | anibal: /msg dpkg maint blah |
| 11:40.57 | bob2 | and surely you know what packages you maintain? |
| 11:41.07 | anibal | bob2, I know, sorry |
| 11:41.38 | faber2 | how do i see the files a specific package will install? i did not find anything in the manpage for apt-get, and dpkg seems not to work on uninstalled packages |
| 11:41.58 | anibal | good night guys Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:41:33 +1100 |
| 11:42.07 | jethro | faber2: not true, man dpkg again :) |
| 11:42.08 | bob2 | faber2: dpkg-deb -c blah.deb |
| 11:42.25 | tobehz | SiliconViper: wtf, how you get that bottom ar thing? like mac os x @@ |
| 11:42.35 | anibal | jethro, there is an option for a dry run |
| 11:42.35 | SiliconViper | tobehz, ^_~ |
| 11:42.54 | tobehz | SiliconViper: do tell :| |
| 11:42.55 | SiliconViper | If I told you that, I'd have to kill you. |
| 11:43.00 | tobehz | ohh :/ |
| 11:43.10 | tobehz | mr. propriety @_@ |
| 11:43.12 | faber2 | bob2: it gives me a no such file or directory |
| 11:43.15 | paulswm | !beat SiliconViper for not sharing |
| 11:43.24 | tobehz | aye! :O |
| 11:43.32 | Mike-- | anyone know why when /etc/security/limits.conf is set and in /etc/pam.d/login the limits module is included, debian doesn't process the limits? |
| 11:43.33 | Mike-- | ??? |
| 11:43.46 | bob2 | faber2: then perhaps you should apply some lateral thinking and actually give it a path that exists? |
| 11:43.54 | faber2 | bob2: i dont have the .deb dile. i am using apt-get |
| 11:43.57 | bob2 | Mike--: multiple question marks make people ignore you |
| 11:44.01 | bob2 | faber2: then you lose |
| 11:44.12 | Mike-- | bob2: I already asked it like 30 mins ago |
| 11:44.13 | bob2 | Mike--: try asking on the debian-user list |
| 11:44.19 | Mike-- | would be nice if people try to answer |
| 11:44.24 | faber2 | bob2: if apt-cache knows about it, it does not know about the files? |
| 11:44.25 | paulswm | faber2: apt-get install apt-file |
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| 11:44.41 | bob2 | faber2: correct |
| 11:44.44 | SiliconViper | And that has nothing to do with proprietary-ness. It's just encouraging you to explore, by not giving the answer directly, when it is right in front of your face. |
| 11:44.46 | faber2 | bob2: ic |
| 11:44.50 | bob2 | Mike--: you want us to make up answers? |
| 11:45.04 | Mike-- | nope, but something like -> mike--: can't help you there |
| 11:45.05 | Guerin | Mike--: /msg dpkg confuse me |
| 11:45.06 | Mike-- | would be nice |
| 11:45.14 | bob2 | Mike--: that's stupid |
| 11:45.19 | bob2 | Mike--: there are 700 people in here |
| 11:45.24 | Mike-- | well |
| 11:45.26 | Mike-- | bite me |
| 11:45.32 | paulswm | Guerin: heh, that was cold |
| 11:45.45 | Guerin | !customer |
| 11:45.45 | dpkg | another happy customer leaves the building |
| 11:45.48 | bob2 | blah |
| 11:45.55 | bob2 | people whine too much |
| 11:45.58 | Guerin | agreed |
| 11:46.09 | bob2 | if they paid for tech support it'd be a hundred dollars per stupid question or part thereof |
| 11:46.14 | tobehz | I looked through toolbars, and found nothing of that bar -__ |
| 11:46.19 | Guerin | and we'd all be zillionaires |
| 11:46.23 | tobehz | besides a desklet that doesn't work |
| 11:46.28 | tobehz | which could possibly be it O_o |
| 11:46.58 | bob2 | rents are too high here |
| 11:47.07 | SiliconViper | tobehz, yeah, that might be it. |
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| 11:47.22 | caustic | who can tell me why i copy a file from winxp ,the file mask is 740 |
| 11:47.27 | BlaBla12 | hi! i want to mount remote smb drive at boot. i have put correct line in /etc/fstab and i can mount it manually like mount /mnt/my_drive. But when system boots up it doesn't mount it automatic. is there some kernel boot parameter i should add or what? |
| 11:47.38 | SiliconViper | tobehz, I had to tweak a few scripts to get them to run, that might have been one of them, I don't remember. |
| 11:47.49 | tobehz | SiliconViper: :/ |
| 11:48.14 | Guerin | can someone from bayouland enlighten me as to what a gris-gris is? |
| 11:48.41 | paulswm | Guerin: a phrase used by Dr. John :) |
| 11:48.46 | Guerin | paulswm: people see it coming though... and it's gotten old. |
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| 11:49.02 | Guerin | paulswm: yeah, that's what's making me wonder. |
| 11:49.04 | WorkerII | Right now my resolution is 1280x1024 ... I'm using Sarge. If I want to switch to 1280x960, is that a matter of adding "1280x960" to the line "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" .. or is it more complicated than that? |
| 11:49.10 | WorkerII | Or is it impossible? |
| 11:49.18 | Guerin | WorkerII: /msg dpkg sing bob2 |
| 11:49.20 | WorkerII | Oh, and do I have to restart X? |
| 11:49.26 | WorkerII | !sing bob2 |
| 11:49.26 | dpkg | dpkg dpkg dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, sing it again! |
| 11:49.53 | Guerin | if it's not a modeline offered in those dialogues, though, you'll need to write a custom one. |
| 11:49.53 | paulswm | Guerin: http://www.calastrology.com/grisgris.html |
| 11:49.55 | WorkerII | Guerin : You sure it has "1280x960", and not only "1280x1024" |
| 11:50.12 | Guerin | WorkerII: no, I'm not; but you should checkk. |
| 11:50.27 | Guerin | paulswm: awww, you googled. I could have done that if I was less lazy. |
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| 11:50.50 | paulswm | Guerin: second entry on a search for "gris-gris", heh |
| 11:51.00 | WorkerII | Guerin : Right .. |
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| 11:51.49 | Guerin | WorkerII: and yes, you will have to restart X. |
| 11:51.58 | Guerin | WorkerII: unless it shows in xrandr |
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| 11:54.38 | rdancer | this isn't good, is it?: ``dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory'' |
| 11:55.19 | directhex|work | !available |
| 11:55.19 | dpkg | from memory, available is run "dselect update" to restore /var/lib/dpkg/available, or if your 'available' file is corrupt, remove it first, then see above. |
| 11:55.30 | rdancer | thanks, directhex|work |
| 11:55.33 | pusakat | !alternatives |
| 11:55.33 | dpkg | alternatives is probably the way Debian manages multiple applications with the same function. For more info, man update-alternatives. |
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| 11:57.17 | caustic | how to install mplayer? |
| 11:57.29 | caustic | no package can apt |
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| 11:57.34 | rdancer | !mplayer |
| 11:57.34 | dpkg | it has been said that mplayer is not in Debian. You may want to use vlc or xine instead. St. Marillat has made unofficial debs available. marillat website is DOWN. See: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ (maybe) |
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| 11:58.51 | caustic | ok,thank youall |
| 11:58.52 | AlexW | has anybody got a nokia working via usb cable |
| 11:58.57 | AlexW | and put it into /mnt |
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| 12:00.28 | Rawplayer | Diamonte: #knoppix |
| 12:00.29 | Oddi | hey guys, I'm uncertain whether my debian system has been install as stable, unstable, or testing: what is the easiest way to check?? |
| 12:00.40 | Rawplayer | less /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 12:01.07 | Oddi | thanks |
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| 12:05.13 | ketzal | hello |
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| 12:07.09 | rdancer | http://rafb.net/paste/results/CGzUcb42.html |
| 12:07.09 | rdancer | ~info xlhtml |
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| 12:11.04 | Cae2 | only works with excel 95 / 97 :/ |
| 12:11.21 | rdancer | !tell Cae2 about search |
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| 12:12.20 | Cae2 | its the first thing that I tried ;) |
| 12:13.16 | Daffy-PKF | lo |
| 12:13.30 | caustic | i downloaded a theme ,and su root to ./configure ,but when check X,it failed ,because root cannt get into X,but nomal user have no permission to configure ,i have chmod ,but dont work,help me :-) |
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| 12:13.47 | PEACEYALL | sup all |
| 12:13.54 | rdancer | Cae2: apt-cache search \\\<excel\\\> |
| 12:14.17 | resiak | !confuse caustic |
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| 12:14.26 | resiak | caustic: You don't need to run ./configure and make as root. |
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| 12:14.49 | resiak | PEACEYALL: "Peace out"? |
| 12:14.52 | caustic | resiak:how do i do |
| 12:15.02 | PEACEYALL | can anyone compile me a 2.6.10 src kernel and then send me the .deb package tehy compiled pls. Because i really need it and when i do it after 10 or 15 mins the computer shuts down and the compilation doesnt complete :'( |
| 12:15.11 | resiak | caustic: Uh, ./configure && make as your own user, then make install as root. |
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| 12:15.18 | resiak | PEACEYALL: Just get 2.6.10 from Sid! |
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| 12:15.35 | rdancer | PEACEYALL: how much do you pay? |
| 12:15.45 | PEACEYALL | noin |
| 12:15.51 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
| 12:15.52 | caustic | resiak:but when i configure ,permission denied |
| 12:15.58 | PEACEYALL | GP, the de-facto standard for cryptographic tools on |
| 12:15.58 | PEACEYALL | the Internet). ... luser@redhat# cd wireless followed by make all & make ... |
| 12:16.04 | PEACEYALL | gah |
| 12:16.05 | PEACEYALL | wytf |
| 12:16.05 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
| 12:16.07 | PEACEYALL | weird |
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| 12:16.13 | dpkg | Yes, who is their snake yesterday, caustic? lederhosen of the dictatorship of tahiti with extra crabpaste |
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| 12:16.28 | rdancer | caustic: comma, the space, then another word! |
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| 12:16.41 | PEACEYALL | gah |
| 12:17.08 | resiak | PEACEYALL: What the hell are you on about? |
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| 12:17.38 | resiak | caustic: Oh, define "theme". |
| 12:17.38 | PEACEYALL | resiak i need someone to compile me the 2.6.10 kernel src and send me their .deb package they compiled oiut of it |
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| 12:17.49 | rdancer | caustic: /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie |
| 12:17.51 | DerJamster | Why don't you compile 2.6.10 and make a .deb? |
| 12:17.56 | PEACEYALL | i told u |
| 12:17.59 | PEACEYALL | my pc turns off |
| 12:18.02 | PEACEYALL | fcaius eteh fan |
| 12:18.05 | PEACEYALL | gets too hot |
| 12:18.07 | resiak | PEACEYALL: And how much would you pay? And why don't you just get the binary from Sid? |
| 12:18.07 | rdancer | !enter |
| 12:18.10 | PEACEYALL | and teh compilation doesnt finish |
| 12:18.18 | DerJamster | Well...I'd fix the computer before I get a new kernel... |
| 12:18.24 | PEACEYALL | who is sid |
| 12:18.24 | PEACEYALL | ? |
| 12:18.32 | DerJamster | My neighbor. Nasty kid :/ |
| 12:18.35 | resiak | PEACEYALL: Are you running Sarge? |
| 12:18.36 | rdancer | @tell PEACEYALL about enter |
| 12:18.39 | bob2 | PEACEYALL: a) fix your computer, b) 2.6.10 is in Debian. |
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| 12:18.43 | PEACEYALL | yes |
| 12:18.46 | PEACEYALL | im runnign sarge |
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| 12:18.50 | bob2 | PEACEYALL: packages.debian.org/kernel-image-2.6.10-386 |
| 12:19.05 | PEACEYALL | i already have the image |
| 12:19.05 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
| 12:19.18 | DerJamster | ...well.. |
| 12:19.18 | PEACEYALL | hmm |
| 12:19.23 | DerJamster | if you have the image, why compile? :P |
| 12:19.26 | AldeBaran | rdancer: apt-get install beer |
| 12:19.26 | PEACEYALL | what do i do with it |
| 12:19.28 | rdancer | PEACEYALL: stop using enter in place of spacebar, please |
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| 12:19.43 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
| 12:20.00 | resiak | PEACEYALL: If you've already installed the image, then, erm, boot with it. |
| 12:20.09 | PEACEYALL | oh ok |
| 12:20.10 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
| 12:20.17 | bob2 | 6lord |
| 12:20.17 | resiak | !tell PEACEYALL about enter |
| 12:20.25 | PEACEYALL | i know enter |
| 12:20.32 | PEACEYALL | im just used to writing llike this sorry |
| 12:20.32 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
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| 12:20.45 | Shadur | PEACEYALL: Never too late to learn. So start now. |
| 12:20.55 | rdancer | PEACEYALL: then get used to not annoy ppl? |
| 12:20.56 | caustic | dpkg:how should i do? |
| 12:21.01 | rdancer | *annoying |
| 12:21.04 | PEACEYALL | ok ok :/ |
| 12:21.18 | rdancer | kontryhel:/var/lib/dpkg# dpkg -L bash |
| 12:21.18 | rdancer | Package `bash' is not installed. |
| 12:21.24 | gentooguy | Anyone have DRI enabled for the Radeon 7500 ??? I can't seem to get it working |
| 12:21.39 | DebianGuy | :) |
| 12:21.40 | resiak | Hahah. |
| 12:21.46 | rdancer | /var/lib/dpkg/available being in place... |
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| 12:23.39 | bob2 | love the friendliness, folks |
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| 12:25.25 | ketzal | how can i build the apache2 docs after installing apache2-doc on Sarge? |
| 12:25.44 | bob2 | build? |
| 12:25.46 | bob2 | you have them already. |
| 12:26.02 | ketzal | bob2: it seems to me that are in XML? |
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| 12:26.27 | Madkiss | Hi all. Does somebody know an application for TV Cards that I can use to watch videos? |
| 12:26.42 | bob2 | xawtv? |
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| 12:26.58 | Madkiss | Okay. Now I need one that can even record videos from the TV Card. ;) |
| 12:27.04 | rdancer | Madkiss: pretty much anything that plays video? mplayer/xine/... |
| 12:27.42 | PEACEYALL | whats the difference between testing and unstable, arnt they both sarge? |
| 12:28.13 | vulture | PEACEYALL: No. unstable == sid. testing == sarge.. |
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| 12:28.28 | PEACEYALL | oh |
| 12:28.32 | rdancer | !tell PEACEYALL about faq |
| 12:28.56 | Madkiss | bttv-grab sounds -- good. |
| 12:28.58 | rdancer | oh, and now we have to wait an hour or two before dpkg makes its mind and replies |
| 12:29.02 | PEACEYALL | rdancer stop that :/ |
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| 12:29.11 | leikh | I have Eudora Pro installed on win-clients. The program starts with "C:\Eudora\Eudora.exe M:\Eudora". This tells Eudora to look for its configuration file (Eudora.ini) and all the mailboxes (*.mbx) and table of contents (*.toc) in M:\Eudora where M: is a network drive (samba on sarge). The problem is that this is SLOW (big time SLOW). Is it a windows problem, or is it samba? |
| 12:29.14 | rdancer | PEACEYALL: stop what? |
| 12:29.20 | PEACEYALL | the !tell |
| 12:29.21 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
| 12:29.27 | rdancer | PEACEYALL: why? |
| 12:29.49 | DebianGuy | has anyone here gotten DRI enabled for their ATI Radeon 7500 under Debian? |
| 12:29.57 | zinx | leikh: uh? samba doesn't give you an "H:" drive |
| 12:30.20 | zinx | leikh: erh, or "M:" for that matter. |
| 12:30.45 | zinx | leikh: anyway, the short answer is that it's both |
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| 12:31.44 | leikh | zinx: no, mapping the drive is a windows matter. the M: is my choise. |
| 12:31.47 | Madkiss | gna, bttv-grab is abandoned. |
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| 12:32.35 | leikh | zinx: m: is /server/mydrive |
| 12:32.41 | leikh | zinx: m: is //server/mydrive |
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| 12:33.09 | caustic | dou you use xine? |
| 12:33.14 | leikh | zinx: do you know what's slowing eudora down? |
| 12:33.18 | ketzal | so noone here knows how to build the apache2 docs? |
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| 12:34.19 | leikh | ketzal: don't know what your question was, but #apache is a nice channel |
| 12:34.22 | caustic | it has no sound ,xmms 's cause? |
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| 12:34.37 | da_bon_bon | hi all. |
| 12:35.11 | ketzal | leikh: my questionis about how sarge handles the apache2-doc, what do i need to build them? |
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| 12:35.41 | FENIX | IMA LI KOGA IZ VELIKE ZEMLJE SRBIJE |
| 12:35.57 | caustic | oh ,its xmms fault! |
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| 12:36.19 | da_bon_bon | whats the diff. between debian and derivatives like ubuntu |
| 12:36.24 | ketzal | getting the apache2-doc deb pakg, i have the XML sources, what's the debs i need to make HTML format from XML format? |
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| 12:38.05 | zinx | leikh: a bug in windows, and samba triggering the bug. |
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| 12:38.21 | leikh | zinx: is there a workaround? (and why do i experience this slowness only with eudora?) |
| 12:39.05 | PEACEYALL | brb restartin |
| 12:39.05 | PEACEYALL | g |
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| 12:39.19 | zinx | leikh: there's not one... i dunno, if that's the case maybe it's eudora sucking up a lot more bandwidth than it needs |
| 12:40.29 | zinx | !test |
| 12:40.29 | leikh | zinx: ok. thx. |
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| 12:40.31 | ketzal | ...and the DOCTYPE is HTML... |
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| 12:42.56 | ketzal | thnx byeall |
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| 12:43.46 | ketzal | what does it means: '#debian The channel demigods have stolen your voic' ? |
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| 12:50.52 | zinx | !test |
| 12:50.58 | Raf256 | for a firewall, newest 2.4 kernel seems to be a better choice? on sarge |
| 12:51.48 | directhex|work | Raf256, yes. |
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| 12:52.04 | directhex|work | Raf256, though woody might be a better bet as a firewall machine |
| 12:52.05 | ketzal- | hello again |
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| 12:52.21 | Jonny_Depp | directhex|work: why is that? |
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| 12:52.49 | Delph | Jonny_Depp: more secure thing that does the job? |
| 12:53.17 | directhex|work | Jonny_Depp, no security updates on sarge yet |
| 12:53.18 | ketzal- | mins ago i posted a question: 'how is it possible to build the apache2 docs'... |
| 12:53.20 | da_bon_bon | whats the diff. between debian and derivatives like ubuntu |
| 12:53.37 | ketzal- | ...the answer is: 'use doxygen'. |
| 12:53.46 | directhex|work | da_bon_bon, QA. ubuntu releases when gnome releases, not when it's relatively bug free |
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| 12:54.08 | da_bon_bon | directhex|work: not only ubuntu, anyt other debian derivative. |
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| 12:55.05 | directhex|work | da_bon_bon, same applies though. debian has rules & guidelines (the debian free software guidelines) about what can or can't appear in the distro, and an enormous team of people packaging for 11 different architectures, about 20,000 packages. |
| 12:55.06 | kundun | what does it means '#debian the channel demigods have stolen your voice' ?? |
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| 12:55.23 | directhex|work | kundun, it means you've been annoying, so someone has set mode +q on you. |
| 12:55.26 | zinx | kundun: because one of the servers is broken |
| 12:55.26 | resiak | kundun: It means that you can't speak. Let me guess, you signed into IRC as root? |
| 12:55.37 | da_bon_bon | directhex|work: so, u use debian sarge or sid ? |
| 12:55.42 | zinx | kundun: it's saying it for everyone who was around on one side of the netsplit |
| 12:55.55 | directhex|work | da_bon_bon, sarge at home, sid at work. |
| 12:55.58 | kundun | norculf: i signed in as ketzal |
| 12:56.01 | zinx | kundun: you can reconnect to freenode, but i don't think it's worth it :) |
| 12:56.09 | da_bon_bon | directhex|work: why do i get that demigods have stolen voice ? |
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| 12:56.51 | directhex|work | oh, you're right, it does appear to just be a broken server |
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| 12:57.15 | zinx | resiak: only on the server that doesn't know about you :/ |
| 12:57.26 | zinx | resiak: someone in here's on it.. very few other channels have someone on it |
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| 12:57.37 | zinx | resiak: i'm guessing it's a small server |
| 12:57.49 | da_bon_bon | directhex|work: why do i get that demigods have stolen voice ? |
| 12:58.00 | directhex|work | da_bon_bon, because the server's fucked? |
| 12:58.16 | resiak | Ah, fair enough. |
| 12:58.27 | kundun | well anyway thnx, bye all |
| 12:58.29 | da_bon_bon | directhex|work: doesnt appear in any other channels. |
| 12:59.01 | zinx | da_bon_bon: someone in this channel is on a broken server |
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| 12:59.11 | da_bon_bon | zinx: ok.. |
| 12:59.36 | RichiH | does anyone know where i could find out how many operations an opteron can do in 8 microseconds? |
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| 12:59.49 | directhex|work | RichiH, what kind of operation? |
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| 13:00.38 | node_3667 | hello |
| 13:00.41 | Vroum | lo |
| 13:00.57 | RichiH | directhex|work: an averaged assembly operation, i guess. mult, add, operations on cache, i think |
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| 13:01.15 | directhex|work | RichiH, on the basis that an opteron can do about 4 GFLOP/s, my maths suggests 35,000. |
| 13:01.18 | node_3667 | i'm looking for a soft which permits view and edition of X properties |
| 13:01.20 | directhex|work | *bad maths |
| 13:01.27 | node_3667 | i can't remember the name |
| 13:01.46 | directhex|work | resiak, any work on nvidia-glx ? |
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| 13:02.45 | resiak | directhex|work: Actually, just got an email. "The prebuilt modules packages were removed from testing because the kernel they were compiled for was no longer available and causing people to report bugs. As nvidia-glx depends on nvidia-kernel and the modules that satisfied that dependency were removed the drivers were removed also. |
| 13:02.51 | resiak | Sorry about that I hope to have the problem rectified soon." |
| 13:02.57 | resiak | ;D |
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| 13:03.20 | sap | PINKY:/etc/init.d# update-alternatives |
| 13:03.31 | sap | sorry |
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| 13:04.01 | resiak | directhex|work: I didn't know that prebuilt modules existed... |
| 13:04.04 | resiak | directhex|work: ...but oh well. |
| 13:04.42 | zinx | resiak: sounds like someone forgot about nvidia-kernel-source |
| 13:05.07 | directhex|work | resiak, as long as it's nothing insidious |
| 13:05.20 | patric | my mousescroll wont work in debian, I have option ZAxisMapping 4 5 in my xconfig is there something more that needs to be done? |
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| 13:06.08 | resiak | Yeah, I thought that the whole point was that nvidia-glx depended on modules that one built oneself. Oh well... |
| 13:06.25 | resiak | directhex|work: Indeed: at least it's not a Freedomâ„¢ tirade. |
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| 13:07.14 | voldemort | does anyone know how to get the tv tunner working on an ATI RADEON 9800 ??? |
| 13:07.18 | directhex|work | resiak, couldn't it be made to recommend 'nvidia-kernel-module', which is a virtual package which just depends on b-e, m-a and kernel headers, and executes m-a a-i nvidia for you? |
| 13:07.26 | directhex|work | voldemort, you can't. |
| 13:07.36 | directhex|work | voldemort, well, the GATOS drivers might do it, but then you'd have no 3d |
| 13:07.47 | resiak | directhex|work: That's a very good point. Want me to email him a recommendation to that effect? |
| 13:08.00 | directhex|work | resiak, since you already have a dialog |
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| 13:08.07 | faber2 | can apt-get relocate installs to say /usr/local ? |
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| 13:08.21 | streuner | hm, does hotmail accept mail from mailserver with dynamic IP's? |
| 13:08.25 | directhex|work | resiak, people using aptitude (as they should) would likely have the rcommends come in automatically |
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| 13:08.45 | directhex|work | faber2, no. use 'ar' to extract the .deb, or 'alien' to convert to a .tgz |
| 13:08.50 | voldemort | that's the main problem, I compiled the ones that ati offers and still have 3d but the performance is quite low |
| 13:09.01 | AciD | oi |
| 13:09.02 | News | does anyone know how to find out what version of debian I am using? |
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| 13:09.11 | xelam|home | News: uname -a ? |
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| 13:09.31 | zinx | !test |
| 13:09.40 | xelam|home | .. |
| 13:09.45 | directhex|work | voldemort, that's because they're shit. sorry. next question. |
| 13:09.48 | petemc | News: cat /etc/debian_version ; cat /etc/issue , or look in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 13:09.51 | zinx | still not there :x |
| 13:09.56 | AciD | anybody experiencing bugs when kdevelop3 launches ? (unstable kdevelop3 3.1.1-2) |
| 13:09.57 | resiak | directhex|work: Yeah, no problem. |
| 13:09.57 | News | thanks petemc |
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| 13:10.04 | resiak | !tell AciD -about bts |
| 13:10.06 | streuner | hm |
| 13:10.10 | resiak | Oh, dpkg is teh bork, right? |
| 13:10.11 | xelam|home | ffs |
| 13:10.14 | zinx | resiak: no |
| 13:10.20 | xelam|home | ... |
| 13:10.23 | zinx | resiak: it's on the server that doesn't know i'm on #debian :) |
| 13:10.23 | resiak | zinx: He's not? He's not liking me. |
| 13:10.28 | voldemort | ok, thanks bro |
| 13:10.29 | resiak | zinx: Ah. |
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| 13:10.32 | zinx | resiak: probably you too |
| 13:10.56 | resiak | zinx: Would appear so. |
| 13:10.59 | AciD | resiak > this cmd didn't do anything for info |
| 13:11.16 | resiak | AciD: Have you looked in the BTS? |
| 13:11.23 | xelam|home | can anyone here me? |
| 13:11.27 | xelam|home | *hear |
| 13:11.31 | zinx | xelam|home: yes |
| 13:11.33 | mh_le | yes |
| 13:11.34 | zinx | xelam|home: freenode is broken |
| 13:11.35 | xelam|home | oh |
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| 13:11.40 | xelam|home | ok |
| 13:11.42 | streuner__ | hm |
| 13:11.45 | AciD | and there is no bugs declared in the bug system |
| 13:11.55 | resiak | AciD: Hey, I was just checking that you'd checked. |
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| 13:12.00 | mh_le | can anyone hear me? |
| 13:12.05 | directhex|work | zinx, what do they expect if they run it all on windows 3.1? |
| 13:12.08 | zinx | mh_le: yes :/ |
| 13:12.27 | resiak | directhex|work: ?! |
| 13:12.27 | mh_le | zinx, ah good.. I get a msg that my voice has been stolen.. |
| 13:12.36 | directhex|work | can anyone edit the topic about the erroneous +q? |
| 13:12.37 | zinx | mh_le: a lot of us do |
| 13:12.47 | directhex|work | resiak, never mind, i was kidding... |
| 13:12.48 | resiak | directhex|work: You type faster than I :| |
| 13:12.56 | resiak | directhex|work: I hoped that you were. |
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| 13:13.09 | zumbi | hello ! somebody running lyx ? know what command to write in order to export lyx -> tex or pdf ? |
| 13:13.13 | directhex|work | resiak, my typing improves, as i'm not a drunken student anymore |
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| 13:16.01 | resiak | directhex|work: Are you suggesting that nvidia-glx should only recommend nvidia-kernel-module, as opposed to depending on it? |
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| 13:17.22 | directhex|work | resiak, depends how clever the nvidia-kernel-module script is, with regards to multiple kernels etc. plus, not all users will want m-a, or a debian kernel-headers |
| 13:17.57 | resiak | directhex|work: That's very true. |
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| 13:18.22 | streuner__ | b |
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| 13:19.05 | faber2 | can i tell apt-get to default to a target version rather than a target release? |
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| 13:20.19 | racoontje | damnit, why does debian rock so much... I have a p1 200MHz w OMG MMX TEHGNXOLOGY and it flies with sid + lotsa repos + ubunutu repo. Not to mention the fact that it's blazing fast. |
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| 13:21.09 | directhex|work | resiak, i'm just thinking like a maintainer. many users will see a dependancy forcing a possibly unneccessary kernel-headers and m-a as wasted bloat. |
| 13:21.11 | caphuso | hi |
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| 13:21.26 | streuner__ | hm |
| 13:21.29 | directhex|work | resiak, perhaps it could depends only on nvidia-kernel-source, and have a configure script on THAT to automate it |
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| 13:21.52 | resiak | directhex|work: Yes, indeed. I've actually sent the email to the effect of your first suggestion... |
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| 13:25.08 | caphuso | dpkg: test |
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| 13:25.49 | streuner__ | Does hotmail accept mails from mailserver with dynamic IP's? |
| 13:26.01 | incorrect | does anyone know where a mod_jk2 deb package would be? |
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| 13:26.16 | streuner__ | incorrect: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:26.27 | incorrect | its not in woody |
| 13:26.41 | incorrect | there is one in sid, however id really like one for stable |
| 13:26.51 | streuner__ | incorrect: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 13:27.06 | streuner__ | !simple sid backport |
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| 13:30.49 | jekyl | Is there a way to read how many sectors that have been written to a disk, for example a compact flash disk? |
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| 13:31.47 | gahan | SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI <- which driver is that? icant find it :( |
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| 13:35.11 | paulswm | !test |
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| 13:35.27 | streuner | paulswm: apt is working... |
| 13:35.35 | streuner | apt, test |
| 13:35.36 | apt | OH FUCK! OH FUCK ME! I didn't study!! |
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| 13:35.41 | paulswm | streuner: heh |
| 13:35.50 | Qoo | ?? |
| 13:35.58 | elnovato | the usb mouse scroll roller... working bad, is there way tocalibrate? |
| 13:35.58 | streuner | paulswm: use apt instead |
| 13:36.12 | paulswm | streuner: ok |
| 13:36.27 | Qoo | !dpkg |
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| 13:37.01 | paulswm | streuner: how come every time I type something I see "#debian :The channel demigods have stolen your voice"? |
| 13:37.36 | zinx | paulswm: servers are desynced, most likely due to the +l and the netsplit earlier |
| 13:37.37 | streuner | paulswm: well, i guess its the server which has some problems, i got the same messages |
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| 13:38.12 | paulswm | streuner, zinx thanks, relieved it's not just me :) |
| 13:38.24 | streuner | paulswm: http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
| 13:38.59 | streuner | paulswm: just turn wallops on |
| 13:39.08 | elnovato | is there a way to configure the mouse whels? |
| 13:39.20 | paulswm | "urgent upgrades", wonder if something bad happened |
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| 13:43.18 | darkness | Hi what stage of testing is sarge in now? |
| 13:43.23 | newbien | why does debian and redhat have more security alerts and patch than other distros? is it because more ppl are looking for security problems or is the problem in the distros altering the apps for their distro environment? |
| 13:43.47 | darkness | hello |
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| 13:44.01 | darkness | wtf |
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| 13:44.24 | darkness | hello |
| 13:44.27 | darkness | dsf\ji\geddf |
| 13:44.28 | darkness | d |
| 13:44.28 | darkness | ds |
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| 13:44.30 | nevyn | newbien: there are a number of reasons. |
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| 13:44.34 | darkness | d |
| 13:44.36 | nevyn | mmm |
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| 13:44.38 | Gathond_ | newbien: they might have more packages |
| 13:44.38 | Penix | darkness: stfu |
| 13:44.38 | darkness | d |
| 13:44.40 | darkness | fd |
| 13:44.42 | elnovato | how to fix my mouse usb whel? |
| 13:44.42 | darkness | fd |
| 13:44.44 | darkness | f |
| 13:44.46 | darkness | ewa |
| 13:44.48 | darkness | r |
| 13:44.51 | darkness | fdes |
| 13:44.54 | darkness | drr |
| 13:44.56 | darkness | er |
| 13:45.06 | streuner | darkness, stop that |
| 13:45.10 | darkness | I have |
| 13:45.30 | streuner | problems? what kind of? |
| 13:45.43 | newbien | Gathond_: yes, more packages but the security alerts are about packages common to all distros, mostly |
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| 13:45.55 | darkness | So is sarge stable yet please? |
| 13:46.05 | Penix | !test |
| 13:46.05 | streuner | darkness: /topic |
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| 13:46.16 | streuner | Penix: use apt |
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| 13:46.34 | Penix | streuner: eh? you saw that? |
| 13:46.34 | nevyn | newbien: stable contains old versions of software that may have bugs that have been fixed or re-factored in current releases. |
| 13:46.46 | streuner | Penix: yeah, i got the same message... |
| 13:46.51 | Penix | ah |
| 13:47.03 | darkness | I'm using woody atm.Is it mabe unwise as i'm a Linux newbie to upgrade to sarge right now? |
| 13:47.10 | nevyn | newbien: any bug announce for any revision of a package between the version in stable and current cvs needs to be patched. |
| 13:47.11 | streuner | Penix: http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
| 13:47.31 | newbien | nevyn: so the bugs are in the apps and not in the distros alteration of the apps to fit their distro? |
| 13:47.48 | streuner | darkness: no, not if you use testing/sarge for a desktop-system |
| 13:48.12 | nevyn | newbien: most of the patches are changing where things are put. or. patches for security or portability |
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| 13:48.38 | darkness | Is swopping over from woody to sarge testing difficult? |
| 13:48.44 | streuner | no |
| 13:48.45 | JarJarBinks | is there away to get the parent PID for some child process with known PID? |
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| 13:49.05 | paulswm | darkness: no |
| 13:49.27 | petemc | JarJarBinks: ps anfl |
| 13:49.35 | JarJarBinks | petemc: thx |
| 13:49.39 | streuner | JarJarBinks: sure, gtop should show you that |
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| 13:50.52 | gregm | hmm ive done a apt-get dist-upgrade but still have the old kernel. How do I use the new ? |
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| 13:50.59 | JarJarBinks | petemc: ps anfl very cool - thanks again |
| 13:51.22 | JarJarBinks | streuner: I need it in a script so gnome-system-monitor, didn't seem to be the app for me... but thanks |
| 13:51.29 | paulswm | gregm: you have to specifically apt-get install a kernel |
| 13:51.44 | incorrect | is sarge frozen yet? |
| 13:52.07 | streuner | incorrect: yes |
| 13:52.21 | gregm | so unstable 2.6.8.1? |
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| 13:52.42 | incorrect | streuner, so its just bug squishing now? |
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| 13:53.08 | streuner | gregm: install the kernel-image and edit your bootloader |
| 13:53.10 | darkness | As i'm using woody, would it be best to upgrade to sid or sarge? |
| 13:53.14 | paulswm | gregm: up to you |
| 13:53.19 | paulswm | darkness: sarge |
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| 13:53.43 | darkness | Is it an easy task that you can tell me here to do it or do i need my mate google :-) |
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| 13:53.58 | toresbe | man, I really want to replicate the voder |
| 13:54.50 | resiak | darkness: Sid is not an upgrade... |
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| 13:55.40 | darkness | I was wanting the best solution to woody for a newbie. I would also like kde 3.3.2 but can't under woody. |
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| 13:56.30 | PEACEYALL | atlast i got the wireless lan to wokr |
| 13:56.33 | PEACEYALL | work* |
| 13:56.41 | incorrect | darkness, you should try ubuntu |
| 13:56.49 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
| 13:57.00 | darkness | Hope you are using 802-11g :-) |
| 13:57.04 | PEACEYALL | how do i load a module in debian? |
| 13:57.09 | streuner | incorrect: we prefer debian... |
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| 13:57.27 | incorrect | PEACEYALL, same way you do in any linux distro |
| 13:57.31 | darkness | ubuntu incorrect? |
| 13:57.37 | PEACEYALL | incorrect i dont know how :/ |
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| 13:58.03 | SlayerXP | PEACEYALL: is using google illegal in your country? |
| 13:58.13 | PEACEYALL | no its just half blocked |
| 13:58.21 | darkness | So what exactly is sid if not an upgrade from woody? |
| 13:58.36 | Cosmodad | hi I'm trying to get ALSA up and running on a 2.4.27 kernel: installed a bunch of .deb packages, including alsa-modules-<kernel>, yet when I try to insmod the correct module I get a bunch of "unresolved symbols" errors. What's missing? |
| 13:58.44 | elnovato | how to fix my mouse usb whel? |
| 13:58.45 | streuner | darkness: /msg apt sid faq |
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| 13:58.54 | elnovato | !wheel |
| 13:58.58 | SlayerXP | ping? |
| 13:58.58 | elnovato | !whel |
| 13:59.00 | incorrect | streuner, i prefer debian, but it seems pointless if you just end up having to upgrade to testing |
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| 13:59.20 | zakame | hi all, been trying to install wordpress on my sarge, when I get to wp-admin/install.php, it's just a blank screen... is it teh mysql? |
| 13:59.34 | streuner | incorrect: that's not a problem at all. |
| 14:00.23 | zakame | huh? |
| 14:00.28 | incorrect | streuner, and why not? |
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| 14:00.35 | SlayerXP | ping? |
| 14:01.18 | streuner | incorrect: why the fuck you wanna discuss, what you prefer or not? |
| 14:01.19 | Blitx | Yo mamma |
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| 14:01.48 | SlayerXP | ping? |
| 14:02.02 | streuner | incorrect: if you want recommend ubuntu just go to #ubuntu |
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| 14:03.10 | Jacobo221 | i have a problem with lilo: i can only boot with the latest kernel I compiled. I mean, I usually have two kernels to boot with (old-safe klernel and latest compiled). but since some time ago, when trying to boot with the old kernel, the screen goes black and nothing happns... |
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| 14:03.25 | Snadder | I got this error msg: hde: set_geometry_intr: status=0x61 { DriveReady DeviceFault Error } |
| 14:03.32 | webmind | good morning/evening/night/afternoon |
| 14:03.41 | incorrect | streuner, i don't actually run either distro, just that some distro's are more suited for certain tasks |
| 14:03.59 | valdyn | Snadder: bad cable or driver bug or broken harddisk |
| 14:04.06 | Cosmodad | anyone managed to get alsa installed the debian way on a 2.4 kernel? I get a bunch of "unresolved symbols" failures |
| 14:04.09 | zakame | where is my voice |
| 14:04.16 | webmind | I'm running debian sarge (3.1) and something besides rmnologin and checkroot.sh is removing my /etc/nologin without following the symlink.. does anyone know what this can be ? |
| 14:04.42 | streuner | zakame: most people get the same... |
| 14:04.54 | valdyn | Snadder: does your interface have a silicon image chipset? |
| 14:04.54 | webmind | ah yes.. and it does this when halting or rebooting the system |
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| 14:06.39 | Snadder | valdyn, how do I find out if it has? |
| 14:06.40 | sussudio | !test |
| 14:06.41 | badgers | Yes, sussudio, you're still online. |
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| 14:07.24 | jcoiron | hello |
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| 14:08.51 | valdyn | Snadder: lspci |
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| 14:09.18 | zakame | streuner: what? |
| 14:09.26 | streuner | hm |
| 14:09.28 | Snadder | valdyn, this one?: IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 |
| 14:09.31 | alemao | anyone who uses CVS, could tell me how to build my package that is in CVS?!? |
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| 14:09.44 | streuner | zakame: #debian :The channel demigods have stolen your voice? |
| 14:09.53 | valdyn | Snadder: thats just one chipset which i think i know to be somewhat broken in 2.6 kernels, usually that error message should not be a driver bug naturally. Thats not it, thats by intel |
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| 14:10.19 | zakame | streuner: yeah, that one... |
| 14:10.32 | Snadder | valdyn, that might be right.. since I got it at two pcs.. and I upgraded to 2.6 maybe a month ago |
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| 14:11.05 | streuner | zakame: yeah, and i told you earlier, most people get the same... |
| 14:11.12 | SlayerXP | !test |
| 14:11.13 | badgers | No, slayerxp, you're not online any more. |
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| 14:11.33 | Snadder | valdyn, any way I can fix this problem? |
| 14:11.53 | valdyn | Snadder: we dont know the error.. |
| 14:11.56 | Snadder | I use 2.6.6 |
| 14:11.57 | faber2 | whats a *light* *simple* http-proxy available for debian? |
| 14:11.58 | zakame | streuner: why? who or what's causing this? |
| 14:12.07 | valdyn | Snadder: if youre sure thats its a kernel issue then use 2.4.x |
| 14:12.18 | streuner | zakame: turn on wallops, http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
| 14:12.38 | alemao | anyone who uses CVS, could tell me how to build my package that is in CVS?!? |
| 14:12.46 | Snadder | well.. i'm not 100% sure.. but its abit strange that it happend on two diffrent pc's.. with same motherboard |
| 14:13.14 | valdyn | Snadder: certainly changing the ide controller maybe help, unless you switch to another broken one. |
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| 14:13.16 | SlayerXP | faber2: squid is simple |
| 14:13.16 | Snadder | ..maybe my cables is fucked up too. i'll check them |
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| 14:13.22 | abrotman | dpkg: hello |
| 14:13.29 | Snadder | oke |
| 14:13.39 | streuner | abrotman: use apt or badgers instead... |
| 14:13.53 | valdyn | Snadder: then ive experienced once that 2 harddisks wouldnt work properly on one interface so i just split them across 2 |
| 14:13.55 | abrotman | streuner: ermm .. why did the demigods steal my voice? |
| 14:14.02 | abrotman | what the fuck is going on |
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| 14:14.11 | resiak | abrotman: Go read freenode.org/news :) |
| 14:14.13 | SlayerXP | abrotman: I'm seeing that too |
| 14:14.15 | sussudio | !do abrotman |
| 14:14.17 | streuner | abrotman: http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
| 14:14.18 | abrotman | it hates me!!! |
| 14:14.20 | abrotman | my life is over |
| 14:14.21 | *** part/#debian jyes (~jyes@mutualite-3-82-67-66-22.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:14.30 | Snadder | valdyn, ok.. but I have one hd at a diffrent interface |
| 14:14.32 | zakame | streuner: okies, another round of blackouts again ;p |
| 14:14.34 | abrotman | how can i talk to people |
| 14:14.38 | abrotman | my voice is gone |
| 14:14.44 | Snadder | ...than the other hd's.. |
| 14:14.45 | sussudio | err. |
| 14:14.53 | zakame | we're stil talkin' |
| 14:14.54 | Delph | abrotman: just ignore it. There's presumably one poor person somewhere who has the problem =:) |
| 14:14.57 | abrotman | Morse Code!!!!! |
| 14:14.59 | streuner | abrotman: hehe, bad luck for you in order to get 100k :-P |
| 14:15.00 | Snadder | this one on its own interface is broken |
| 14:15.02 | abrotman | ... --- ... |
| 14:15.36 | abrotman | if i quit and come back .. is it fixed ? |
| 14:15.43 | streuner | no |
| 14:15.50 | abrotman | bah .. |
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| 14:16.17 | abrotman | and dpkg hates me too? |
| 14:16.24 | abrotman | damn .. that's annoying :) |
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| 14:16.38 | abrotman | streuner: what 100k? |
| 14:16.42 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Everybody hates you. :) |
| 14:16.50 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: you're back .. andi know this already |
| 14:16.58 | streuner | abrotman: nothing works today, so it can be only better ;-) |
| 14:17.08 | abrotman | get better? |
| 14:17.28 | streuner | yep |
| 14:17.28 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Nope I'm still on vacation. :) |
| 14:17.38 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: that's a long vacation |
| 14:17.48 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: and aren't you paying out the ass to poke fun at me? |
| 14:17.54 | *** join/#debian rdancer (~r--t@rdancer.user) |
| 14:17.57 | abrotman | which .. sounds somewhat wrong after reading it |
| 14:18.02 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: ping |
| 14:18.25 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yes it does. And no I found a much cooler/cheaper place to poke fun at you form. |
| 14:18.25 | rdancer | what can i do when dpkg thinks no packages are installed? (dpkg -l shows nothing) |
| 14:18.34 | Raf256 | dpkg- ping yo mamma |
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| 14:18.47 | rdancer | i've re-created /var/lib/dpkg/available |
| 14:18.53 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: this is getting odd/kinky .. maybe we should stop poking each other |
| 14:19.02 | rdancer | foo |
| 14:19.04 | streuner | !available |
| 14:19.04 | badgers | i heard available is run "dselect update" to restore /var/lib/dpkg/available, or if your 'available' file is corrupt, remove it first, then see above. |
| 14:19.19 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yeah. I'm going to go with you on that one. |
| 14:19.20 | valdyn | rdancer: re-created? an empty file? what would be the point? |
| 14:19.21 | jm_ | rdancer: information about installed packages is not stored in available |
| 14:19.31 | rdancer | wtf is 14:18 -!- #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice |
| 14:19.41 | rdancer | !available |
| 14:19.41 | badgers | it has been said that available is run "dselect update" to restore /var/lib/dpkg/available, or if your 'available' file is corrupt, remove it first, then see above. |
| 14:19.45 | ricky_clarkson | rdancer: Do you read me? |
| 14:19.47 | zakame | found my prob, didn't have php4-mysql in the first place ;p |
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| 14:19.50 | caphuso | rdancer: ignore it |
| 14:19.57 | streuner | rdancer: look into /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 14:20.06 | ricky_clarkson | What's going on, d00ds? |
| 14:20.15 | caphuso | network problems |
| 14:20.24 | rdancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.32 | abrotman | ricky_clarkson: freenode.net/news.shtml |
| 14:20.38 | rdancer | ricky_clarkson: yes |
| 14:20.39 | abrotman | ~fuck the demigods |
| 14:20.58 | rdancer | fuck channel |
| 14:21.03 | streuner | apt, literal fuck |
| 14:21.04 | apt | "fuck" is "You should probably try a replacement word like fetch" |
| 14:21.04 | ricky_clarkson | http://freenode.net/news.shtml - much more clickable |
| 14:21.11 | abrotman | ricky_clarkson: it is |
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| 14:21.50 | mario__ | hello!! |
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| 14:21.58 | rdancer | streuner: what should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ? |
| 14:22.07 | deb | lo |
| 14:22.17 | abrotman | rdancer: naked dancing girls! |
| 14:22.29 | rdancer | whoa! |
| 14:22.37 | tripz__ | where where??? |
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| 14:22.46 | valdyn | rdancer: the package maintenance scripts, *postrm *prerm etc.. |
| 14:22.56 | sussudio | !factinfo CMD: fuck (.*?) |
| 14:22.57 | badgers | CMD: fuck (.*?) -- last modified at Mon Jan 17 22:18:27 2005 by simonrvn!simon@simonrvn.user. |
| 14:23.01 | deb | i have a an AMD64 proccesor and i want o install sarge.. But what i must select ia64? |
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| 14:23.12 | abrotman | deb: /j #debian-amd64 |
| 14:23.19 | deb | ok |
| 14:23.28 | rdancer | valdyn: yes, they're there |
| 14:23.50 | streuner | rdancer: show us 'ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/ in #flood |
| 14:23.58 | mario__ | a little question: somebody is using djbdns server?? |
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| 14:24.06 | mario__ | sorry my english ; ) |
| 14:24.19 | sussudio | !irritate mario__ |
| 14:24.20 | badgers | $1: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? how does I run teh mouse kthx |
| 14:24.20 | abrotman | !djb |
| 14:24.28 | abrotman | why did badger message me? |
| 14:24.34 | rdancer | streuner: 'tis there |
| 14:24.40 | abrotman | god dman .. what a pain |
| 14:24.40 | valdyn | deb: just go with i386 |
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| 14:24.50 | abrotman | !tell mario__ about djb |
| 14:25.01 | abrotman | IOW .. don't use DJB crap .. ever! |
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| 14:25.14 | streuner | rdancer: status is fucked... |
| 14:25.24 | rdancer | the url doesn't say much about demigods |
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| 14:25.41 | streuner | just ignore it |
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| 14:25.51 | jacksparrow | 'hi all |
| 14:25.53 | WiFiTux | mario__: de donde sos? |
| 14:25.55 | mario__ | ohh, sorry folks. I did't know |
| 14:25.59 | Rawplayer | hi'ya matie! |
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| 14:26.06 | rdancer | streuner: cp /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/status ? |
| 14:26.10 | jacksparrow | Somebody use external dvd-rw on usb? |
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| 14:26.24 | Rawplayer | . |
| 14:26.33 | abrotman | Rawplayer: yes .. it's fucked up |
| 14:26.44 | jaybuffet | anyone want to help install dedian on my cobalt qube2... i start net booting ... and it gets as far as "The specified procedure could not be found" then it stops... any help would be appreciated. thanks |
| 14:26.45 | abrotman | bah .. theifs!! |
| 14:26.54 | wombachi | how can I know the number of files in a ext2/3 filesystem ? somewhere on /proc? |
| 14:27.01 | abrotman | jaybuffet: for a server or workstation(internal) ? |
| 14:27.04 | streuner | rdancer: well, that would be a solution |
| 14:27.11 | jaybuffet | jabber server |
| 14:27.18 | rdancer | streuner: thx a lot |
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| 14:27.21 | abrotman | jaybuffet: and you're installing woody ? |
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| 14:27.32 | valdyn | wombachi: find | wc -l |
| 14:27.33 | sussudio | !lose rdancer |
| 14:27.33 | jaybuffet | abrotman: sarge |
| 14:27.34 | badgers | rdancer: You Lose. |
| 14:27.36 | abrotman | rdancer: i did that once .. the exact files you speak of .. it's a bad idea |
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| 14:27.44 | abrotman | jaybuffet: #debian-boot .. it's ARM isn't it? |
| 14:27.44 | rdancer | very bad |
| 14:27.59 | jaybuffet | abrotman: MIPS |
| 14:28.01 | abrotman | rdancer: it's like .. sleeping with your mom and sister in a threesome bad |
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| 14:28.14 | abrotman | jaybuffet: yeah .. ask them .. /j #debian-boot |
| 14:28.21 | jaybuffet | ok thank you |
| 14:28.24 | rdancer | abrotman: not necessarily that bad an idea for anybody but me 8-) |
| 14:28.44 | abrotman | rdancer: well .. i did say it was your mom and sister |
| 14:28.56 | abrotman | rdancer: my sister is cuter .. ask perf |
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| 14:28.59 | abrotman | bah .. |
| 14:29.00 | wombachi | valdyn : ok, I thought there was another way (perhaps stored on the superblock) |
| 14:29.08 | WiFiTux | rdancer: would be nice if it's a nice step-mom and step-sister |
| 14:29.09 | rdancer | abrotman: but you didn't specify who shouldn't be doing that |
| 14:29.19 | rdancer | WiFiTux: still a bit dirty |
| 14:29.19 | abrotman | rdancer: oh .. ok .. well may i? |
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| 14:29.34 | WiFiTux | :| |
| 14:29.35 | rdancer | abrotman: /msg me your phone number, i'll pass it.. |
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| 14:29.39 | abrotman | rdancer: is your sister my age? |
| 14:29.50 | abrotman | and some where i can get to easily? |
| 14:29.58 | WiFiTux | *** #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice |
| 14:30.04 | abrotman | WiFiTux: we know |
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| 14:30.14 | abrotman | freenode.net/news.shtml |
| 14:30.21 | WiFiTux | abrotman: what's that? I can still talk... |
| 14:30.22 | sussudio | !irritate WiFiTux |
| 14:30.23 | badgers | $1: hi every1 who uses gnome lol |
| 14:30.29 | abrotman | WiFiTux: freenode is broken |
| 14:30.32 | *** mode/#debian [+o caphuso] by ChanServ |
| 14:30.40 | incorrect | with apache2 should i just symlink modules to enable them, or is there a tool? |
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| 14:30.43 | valdyn | wombachi: no reference about no. of you files is kept so you have to count "manually" |
| 14:30.47 | WiFiTux | abrotman: ahhh fuck. |
| 14:30.49 | *** topic/#debian by caphuso -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Knoppix/Ubuntu/Mepis are NOT Debian | Sarge Base+Standard frozen; installer: /msg dpkg d-i | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | SECURITY: CUPS (DSA 621-1) ZIP (624-1) EXIM (DSA 635-1) local kernel root exploit (SMP-only): http://tinyurl.com/5v7ty | http://freenode.net/news.sh |
| 14:30.52 | abrotman | yay |
| 14:30.52 | rdancer | abrotman: if you're rich and pleasant to be with, in his 50's, for sure ;-) |
| 14:30.59 | *** mode/#debian [-o caphuso] by caphuso |
| 14:31.01 | abrotman | rdancer: your sister is 50? |
| 14:31.03 | rdancer | abrotman: actually, you can be younger |
| 14:31.07 | wombachi | valdyn: ok, thanks |
| 14:31.23 | abrotman | your sister is 50? |
| 14:31.37 | rdancer | abrotman: nope, but older guys tend to be more dependable etc |
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| 14:31.58 | abrotman | rdancer: well .. how old is she? |
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| 14:31.59 | WiFiTux | http://freenode.net/news.sh |
| 14:32.01 | stelki | How do I access the tool to change apt sources? |
| 14:32.06 | WiFiTux | that doiesn't say much |
| 14:32.09 | rdancer | abrotman: definitively if you're rich, the age is not that much important |
| 14:32.09 | abrotman | stelki: change how |
| 14:32.12 | abrotman | WiFiTux: read the topic |
| 14:32.19 | abrotman | rdancer: but how old is she? |
| 14:32.25 | stelki | abrotman, what? |
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| 14:32.38 | abrotman | stelki: change to another host .. or upgrade ? |
| 14:32.41 | WiFiTux | abrotman: I said, that doesn't tell me much.I had to guess, but anyway.... |
| 14:32.42 | rdancer | abrotman: i'm 24.56, and she's something like that |
| 14:32.47 | stelki | abrotman, ah, change to another host |
| 14:32.54 | abrotman | rdancer: i'm 28!!! |
| 14:33.00 | abrotman | stelki: apt-setup |
| 14:33.02 | rdancer | abrotman: great |
| 14:33.04 | stelki | abrotman, fanks :> |
| 14:33.10 | abrotman | rdancer: but aren't you in germany? |
| 14:33.13 | rdancer | abrotman: .cz |
| 14:33.17 | abrotman | hrm .. |
| 14:33.21 | rdancer | abrotman: actually, i'm in .uk |
| 14:33.29 | abrotman | rdancer: they have those .. european bride thingies :) |
| 14:33.35 | rdancer | abrotman: hahaha |
| 14:33.50 | LesleyB | how stable is sarge? |
| 14:33.50 | abrotman | rdancer: would she move here? |
| 14:33.51 | rdancer | abrotman: when you're coming to prague, i can arrange a date ;-) |
| 14:33.57 | abrotman | LesleyB: i use it in many places |
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| 14:34.09 | abrotman | rdancer: i don't see why not .. it was either prague or hawaii |
| 14:34.30 | abrotman | rdancer: but a picture might be good .. for all i know .. she "has a nice personality" :) |
| 14:34.42 | rdancer | abrotman: exactly. *your* picture ;-) |
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| 14:34.46 | LesleyB | what's your uptime on it, abrotman? |
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| 14:35.00 | feq | gi |
| 14:35.02 | feq | hi |
| 14:35.06 | abrotman | LesleyB: they all just had kernel upgrades |
| 14:35.06 | *** part/#debian feq (~dsfdsf@host-162.krucza.exorigo.pl) |
| 14:35.07 | rdancer | she's not anyway near as cocky as i |
| 14:35.19 | WiFiTux | !uptime |
| 14:35.30 | abrotman | LesleyB: but the faxserver can run for months i suspect .. years maybe .. |
| 14:35.31 | valdyn | wombachi: that wont work as you might intend it to, proc is in / and is another fs |
| 14:35.35 | abrotman | probably hardware will fail first |
| 14:35.47 | abrotman | rdancer: i have pictures |
| 14:35.50 | sussudio | !tell cHaPlinux about away |
| 14:35.50 | abrotman | ~tell cHaPlinux about away |
| 14:35.58 | abrotman | sussudio: tagteam! |
| 14:36.07 | sussudio | :-| |
| 14:36.13 | rdancer | !tell cHaPlinux about /quit |
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| 14:36.20 | wombachi | valdyn : oups, you're right :-/ |
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| 14:36.37 | abrotman | rdancer: but i don't think she'd omve to philly ... |
| 14:36.41 | nion | where can i find a good docu about x.org under debian? |
| 14:36.49 | abrotman | rdancer: does it help if one of my co-workers is from albania? |
| 14:36.49 | Bakayoshi | Anyone here ever attempted to install Debian in an emulator, such as twoOS2, bochs, etc? |
| 14:36.50 | abrotman | !xorg |
| 14:36.53 | abrotman | bah ... |
| 14:36.55 | abrotman | ~xorg |
| 14:36.56 | apt | from memory, xorg is The X.Org Foundation, the worldwide consortium empowered with the stewardship and collaborative development of the X Window System technology and standards. http://X.org/ |
| 14:37.01 | rdancer | abrotman: albania certainly doesn't help |
| 14:37.09 | abrotman | nion: http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans |
| 14:37.15 | abrotman | rdancer: oh well .. |
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| 14:37.21 | mmbaba | hi all |
| 14:37.27 | abrotman | hi |
| 14:37.28 | rdancer | abrotman: i think you'd have to impress here enough anyway. |
| 14:37.35 | abrotman | rdancer: i'm impressive! |
| 14:37.45 | abrotman | rdancer: but i still haven't seen a picture :) |
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| 14:38.17 | wombachi | valdyn : "inode_count - free_inodes" (from tune2fs -l /dev/..) |
| 14:38.21 | *** part/#debian cHaPlinux (~cHaPlinux@200.223.106.89) |
| 14:38.28 | rdancer | abrotman: well i can show you mine; they say we look like each other... 8-) |
| 14:38.31 | wombachi | valdyn : seems a better approximation of nb of files in a filesystem? |
| 14:38.39 | rdancer | channel demigods my ass! |
| 14:38.39 | abrotman | rdancer: does she shave her face? :) |
| 14:38.42 | nion | abrotman: i know this, but i will use it now |
| 14:38.44 | mmbaba | i am using tc (traffic shaping) .. how to match a range of IP's? |
| 14:38.44 | *** part/#debian shagster (hsf@63.90.248.15) |
| 14:38.46 | abrotman | nion: ok |
| 14:38.49 | *** part/#debian sussudio (suss@sussudio.user) |
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| 14:38.55 | rdancer | abrotman: nope, and neither do i ;-) |
| 14:38.59 | abrotman | !tell nion about get xorg |
| 14:39.02 | rdancer | (hence the similarities) |
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| 14:39.11 | ricky_clarkson | rdancer: Is that your IRC client or the network that uses that wording, do you know? |
| 14:39.16 | abrotman | my client says the same thing |
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| 14:39.22 | abrotman | --- #debian :The channel demigods have stolen your voice |
| 14:39.27 | abrotman | fuck off demigods |
| 14:39.39 | Rawplayer | can i speak? |
| 14:39.48 | rdancer | Rawplayer: yes, we hear you |
| 14:39.54 | Rawplayer | o lol |
| 14:39.58 | mmbaba | hi can u read me? |
| 14:39.59 | ricky_clarkson | Rawplayer: No, you can only whisper. |
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| 14:40.09 | rdancer | foo |
| 14:40.10 | ricky_clarkson | mmbaba: No. |
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| 14:40.26 | abrotman | mario__: talk here .. don't /msg people |
| 14:40.26 | rdancer | foo |
| 14:40.29 | ricky_clarkson | They stole our voices, so we've got to whisper. |
| 14:40.40 | rdancer | bastards! |
| 14:40.52 | rdancer | ':benford.freenode.net 404 rdancer #debian :The channel demigods have stolen your voice |
| 14:40.56 | rdancer | it's the network |
| 14:40.57 | superlinux | hi all |
| 14:41.00 | Araldit | What is the best program for recording voice from the mic... |
| 14:41.07 | abrotman | ricky_clarkson: morse code!! |
| 14:41.09 | Tenkawa | Araldit: thats very subjective |
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| 14:41.11 | abrotman | Araldit: audacity IMO |
| 14:41.12 | rdancer | !best |
| 14:41.12 | badgers | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 14:41.14 | ricky_clarkson | Araldit: sox (rec) |
| 14:41.27 | rdancer | Araldit: depends on what you're trying to do. define best |
| 14:41.32 | WiFiTux | mario__: que es lo que andas buscando? |
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| 14:41.37 | ricky_clarkson | !spanish |
| 14:41.37 | badgers | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:41.44 | Tenkawa | wow |
| 14:41.46 | Tenkawa | major desync |
| 14:41.58 | WiFiTux | ricky_clarkson: it's so he can go home now. |
| 14:42.08 | Araldit | rdancer: Just wants to be able to record some wav files from my mic, to use different places.. Not hifi.. |
| 14:42.25 | abrotman | Araldit: audacity is my fave so far ... |
| 14:42.37 | ricky_clarkson | Araldit: rec |
| 14:42.39 | rdancer | Araldit: something like a personal notetaker? |
| 14:42.40 | Araldit | abrotman: k.. Ill try it |
| 14:42.44 | abrotman | Araldit: i use it for guitar track stuff |
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| 14:42.58 | Araldit | rdancer: exactly |
| 14:43.07 | rdancer | Araldit: then probably not audacity |
| 14:43.08 | WiFiTux | abrotman: for your banjo? |
| 14:43.19 | abrotman | WiFiTux: no .. no banjo .. but i'd like to learn violin |
| 14:43.29 | Tenkawa | test.. still desynced? |
| 14:43.35 | abrotman | yes |
| 14:43.40 | rdancer | Araldit: both kde and gnome should have something; ask in their channels. commandline is possible too |
| 14:43.53 | Tenkawa | hmm |
| 14:44.04 | Tenkawa | this message is quite annoying |
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| 14:44.37 | rdancer | i think it's this chan setup |
| 14:44.54 | rdancer | !ops ':benford.freenode.net 404 rdancer #debian :The channel demigods have stolen your voice |
| 14:44.58 | caphuso | fuck |
| 14:45.05 | caphuso | rdancer: shut the hell up |
| 14:45.07 | rdancer | ah, sorry |
| 14:45.18 | WiFiTux | abrotman: piano... So I can take the piano strings and rape and kill girls :) |
| 14:45.21 | caphuso | it's network problems, the news is the topic, we can't do shit and you're a moron |
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| 14:45.30 | abrotman | WiFiTux: soo . not funny |
| 14:45.40 | abrotman | WiFiTux: piano would be good too i guess |
| 14:45.56 | abrotman | rdancer: where's my picture? |
| 14:46.02 | ricky_clarkson | The Italians have three meanings for 'piano'. |
| 14:46.12 | abrotman | cause they're weird |
| 14:46.14 | ricky_clarkson | piano - musical instrument, floor of a building and quiet. |
| 14:46.21 | rdancer | abrotman: well i'd have to ask her. which means i'd have to show her *your* picture... |
| 14:46.31 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 14:46.36 | abrotman | rdancer: why? |
| 14:46.51 | abrotman | pseubodot: damn you! |
| 14:46.58 | rdancer | caphuso: http://freenode.net/news.sh gives 404 Not Found |
| 14:46.58 | WiFiTux | abrotman: yes, I want Piano... I had it with the drums, they are too loud... |
| 14:47.06 | abrotman | i know who caused this problem! |
| 14:47.07 | abrotman | !iapf |
| 14:47.08 | badgers | from memory, iapf is It's All Pete's Fault(http://www.itsallpetesfault.org) |
| 14:47.13 | caphuso | argh, /topic too long |
| 14:47.18 | caphuso | it's shtml |
| 14:47.20 | abrotman | pete has cuased freenode to go wacky |
| 14:47.23 | *** mode/#debian [+o caphuso] by ChanServ |
| 14:47.23 | kuja | Is it possible that X crashes when I listen to music or watch movies and try to do other things at the same time because of a harddrive problem? |
| 14:47.32 | ricky_clarkson | caphuso: Use tinyurl.com |
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| 14:47.53 | rdancer | caphuso: and it doesn't deal with the demigods, even when s/$/tml/ |
| 14:47.58 | abrotman | take out the xorg part |
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| 14:48.13 | abrotman | kuja: lots of things are possible |
| 14:48.28 | kuja | abrotman: I think I'm sure it's not a memory problem. |
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| 14:48.30 | rdancer | caphuso: since other chans i'm in don't exhibit this problem, i reason it's ops-dependant at least to some degree |
| 14:48.35 | abrotman | !memtest |
| 14:48.35 | badgers | it has been said that memtest is http://www.memtest86.com/ . Also check out http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/ |
| 14:48.38 | *** topic/#debian by caphuso -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Knoppix/Ubuntu/Mepis are NOT Debian | Sarge Base+Standard frozen; installer: /msg dpkg d-i | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
| 14:48.47 | kuja | abrotman: My floppy drive is fuxed :P |
| 14:48.59 | caphuso | rdancer: it's not |
| 14:49.01 | abrotman | kuja: and? .. it has a boot CD |
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| 14:49.14 | kuja | I guess I'll have to bug my parents for a blank CD :) |
| 14:49.24 | abrotman | i think maybe you will |
| 14:49.25 | kuja | abrotman: What's the difference between memtest and memtest86? |
| 14:49.27 | abrotman | or use a CDRW |
| 14:49.31 | abrotman | kuja: no idea ... |
| 14:49.41 | abrotman | one works on PPC maybe? |
| 14:49.41 | kuja | I tried memtest and all tests passed, heh. |
| 14:50.17 | Gathond_ | kuja: that memtest is a userspace program and memtest86 is a kernel like thing you boot into |
| 14:50.33 | kuja | Gathond_: Figures :P |
| 14:51.25 | LesleyB | I have two boxes and a laptop none of which are currently networked up |
| 14:51.34 | caphuso | LesleyB: cables help a lot |
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| 14:51.47 | LesleyB | I would like to do the following : |
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| 14:52.05 | LesleyB | 1 box is going to be the interface to the Internet |
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| 14:52.16 | kuja | Gathond: And if a test fails, does that indicate I have to replace my memory, or does it do anything else? |
| 14:52.26 | abrotman | isn't there a #networking ? |
| 14:52.34 | Gathond | caphuso: cables are so 20th century:) wireless is the way to go :) |
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| 14:52.54 | superlinux | i am using tc (traffic shaping) .. how to match a range of IP's? |
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| 14:52.57 | LesleyB | mostly I want it to proxy(?) out any web stuff, provide a firewall and pick up mail from ISP |
| 14:52.58 | Gathond | kuja: perhaps :) |
| 14:53.04 | erik | hey, are there any prepackaged emacs CVS snapshots? |
| 14:53.06 | LesleyB | the second box I want to be multi-boot |
| 14:53.09 | gregm | after apt-get install kernel-source do I just run lilo or do i need to change anything?? |
| 14:53.16 | caphuso | erik: no, but you can easily build your own |
| 14:53.19 | kuja | Gathond: I just don't want to go back to Windows :( |
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| 14:53.22 | abrotman | erik: think about that |
| 14:53.32 | Gathond | kuja: a failed test would indicate that reading some memory address failed, wether this is caused by the memory, the motherboard or the CPU itself is an open question :) |
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| 14:53.35 | erik | abrotman: I did, it seems really useful |
| 14:53.45 | abrotman | erik: prepackaged CVS ? |
| 14:53.53 | abrotman | erik: ask #emacs or chekc apt-get.org |
| 14:53.54 | erik | abrotman: snapshots, yes |
| 14:54.05 | erik | this isn't a crazy idea heh |
| 14:54.15 | LesleyB | I have SuSe 9.2, want Devian and need a version of that other OS on the multiboot system |
| 14:54.31 | abrotman | erik: i just meant your wording |
| 14:54.32 | Gathond | kuja: memtest86 is a better test than memtest though, since the latter operates under the restrictions a userspace program does, cannot test anything but free memory and so forth |
| 14:54.32 | LesleyB | it's likely I will want to install other stuff such as RedHat Ubuntu etc |
| 14:54.39 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 14:54.43 | LesleyB | on the multiboot system |
| 14:54.43 | abrotman | bah .. fuck off |
| 14:54.49 | abrotman | dpkg: come back ..we love oy |
| 14:54.55 | gregm | after apt-get install kernel-source do I just run lilo or do i need to change anything?? |
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| 14:54.59 | caphuso | erik: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsCvsAndDebian |
| 14:55.02 | erik | abrotman: I think your english parser is broken but ok :p |
| 14:55.03 | erik | caphuso: thanks |
| 14:55.14 | abrotman | erik: no way |
| 14:55.23 | LesleyB | what I guess I want to know is this : |
| 14:55.27 | ricky_clarkson | erik: He's American. Be gentle. |
| 14:55.37 | infinito | anyone can help me with ECLIPSE??? |
| 14:55.41 | valdyn | gregm: what has a source code of anything to do with setting up your bootloader? |
| 14:55.44 | ricky_clarkson | #ECLIPSE !!!!!! |
| 14:55.55 | LesleyB | I could set up Debian on the server box but I would want that to be as stable as possible cos otherwise my connection goes down |
| 14:56.02 | AnhVu | hello i want to add a JOB into crontab, where should i put that command ? |
| 14:56.23 | rdancer | infinito: hth hand |
| 14:56.29 | gregm | valdyn surely you need to specify what image to boot into???? |
| 14:56.29 | infinito | thanks... |
| 14:56.32 | LesleyB | I would then also have Debian on the multiboot box but I wouldn't necessarily want that to go down |
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| 14:56.40 | LesleyB | I've noticed sarge has gcc 3.3 |
| 14:57.14 | valdyn | gregm: kernel-source provides _sourcecode_, not an image |
| 14:57.20 | LesleyB | and I had trouble under SuSE 8.2 compiling the kernel with that version of the compiler |
| 14:57.40 | NICKALLINCAPS | now *I* have the stupidest nick here !!! |
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| 14:57.43 | LesleyB | and why do I get the message #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice every time I paste something? |
| 14:57.48 | QUACH-VU | hello i want to add a JOB into crontab, where should i put that command ? |
| 14:57.56 | caphuso | LesleyB: because |
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| 14:58.45 | LesleyB | so on the multiboot box how do I get it so that I have a stable development platform using sarge but also get to check out the latest on sarge for stability re the server box? |
| 14:59.10 | QUACH-VU | ? |
| 14:59.19 | gregm | QUACH_VU"/etc/crontab" |
| 14:59.44 | dao | my netmonitor-applet gives wrong (traffic-)information, untill I start gkrellm.. then it probably uses the sensors from gkrellm, which are correct... but I dont want to run gkrellm all the time, how can I solve this issue? |
| 14:59.49 | kuja | Where's the kernel log in Debian? |
| 14:59.56 | abrotman | where you put it |
| 14:59.58 | caphuso | kuja: /var/log |
| 15:00.01 | abrotman | bah ... |
| 15:00.04 | QUACH-VU | greg after i added the job into that file, and save, must i reload or type command to start it? |
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| 15:00.12 | kuja | Is kern.log a boot process log? |
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| 15:00.20 | caphuso | kuja: does it look like one? |
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| 15:00.43 | kuja | Yeah :P |
| 15:00.57 | register_ | hi why dont sarge install X and gome/kde when i try to install it ? |
| 15:01.10 | LesleyB | register_ : are you using woody r3? |
| 15:01.18 | LesleyB | oops :( |
| 15:01.20 | register_ | no iam using sarge |
| 15:01.26 | Gathond | register_: X as in xfree86 ? |
| 15:01.42 | register_ | yes or whats sarge have on the cd |
| 15:01.52 | toresbe | Gathond: No, X as in Windows XP |
| 15:01.52 | Gathond | register_: probably because X is not really required, since you could perfectly well run KDE over X forwarding |
| 15:02.01 | abrotman | !xpde |
| 15:02.01 | badgers | methinks xpde is a desktop environment attempting to make it easier for the newbie. stands for "XP Desktop Environment.", or at xpde.com for more info. |
| 15:02.15 | rdancer | ~xpde |
| 15:02.16 | apt | i guess xpde is a desktop environment attempting to make it easier for the newbie. stands for "XP Desktop Environment.", or at xpde.com for more info. |
| 15:02.20 | register_ | not winxp |
| 15:02.25 | toresbe | register_: apt-get install x-window-system gnome #:) |
| 15:02.48 | gregm | Quach no it run on the time specified |
| 15:02.49 | kuja | gnome-base or gnome-core for the bare minimum right? I forget if it's base or core. |
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| 15:02.58 | register_ | i have installed sarge bifore and then it installed gnome and x server |
| 15:03.34 | register_ | why dident it do it now |
| 15:03.35 | abrotman | erm .. xpde.com seems .. gone |
| 15:03.43 | rdancer | eh, i meant ~info |
| 15:03.49 | Gathond | register_: my guess is you did something different then |
| 15:03.58 | QUACH-VU | greg each user has their own crontab? |
| 15:03.58 | soccos | what provides libgtksuperwin.so? |
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| 15:04.12 | rdancer | demigods? |
| 15:04.32 | rdancer | still there, bastards! |
| 15:05.07 | abrotman | !tell soccos about search |
| 15:05.08 | register_ | not realy.. what dos sarge use ? xf86 or the new one that fedora use ? |
| 15:05.17 | caphuso | register_: xfree86 |
| 15:05.23 | register_ | ok |
| 15:05.45 | register_ | how to install that now when i only have console ? |
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| 15:06.51 | soccos | abrotman: yeah, that didn't turn it up |
| 15:07.02 | abrotman | !find libgtksuperwin.so |
| 15:07.06 | QUACH-VU | after type crontab -e and edit it, how can we save crontab? which button should we press? |
| 15:07.11 | register_ | apt-get xfree86 gnome ?? |
| 15:07.14 | abrotman | :wq |
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| 15:07.25 | abrotman | register_: apt-get install gnome x-window-system |
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| 15:07.36 | caphuso | x-window-system-core |
| 15:07.41 | abrotman | badgers: did you find it? |
| 15:07.41 | badgers | abrotman: i haven't a clue |
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| 15:07.52 | abrotman | ~find libgtksuperwin.so |
| 15:08.09 | Xenguy | QUACH-VU: try typing -> :wq |
| 15:08.14 | l4vim | hello, how can I disable trackpoint on my synapstic touchpad/trackpoint ? I have 2.6.11 kernel where Synapstic is detected and trackpoint works even when I have it disabled in BIOS |
| 15:08.39 | abrotman | soccos: doesn't seem to be in debian .. try packages.debian.org .. at the bottom you can search for files |
| 15:08.51 | soccos | I tried that already |
| 15:08.52 | badgers | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libgtksuperwin.so' returned no results. |
| 15:08.55 | ricky_clarkson | When I traceroute a host that doesn't exist, my own machine replies, oddly. What's the meaning? |
| 15:08.58 | xuser | In what part the X config files do i disable 6000 tcp port? |
| 15:09.07 | rdancer | foo |
| 15:09.09 | register_ | ok going to test that then :) |
| 15:09.14 | ricky_clarkson | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.26 | rdancer | bar |
| 15:09.26 | Delph | ricky_clarkson: some might say its farked. |
| 15:09.32 | soccos | baz |
| 15:09.42 | ricky_clarkson | Delph: Try it yourself, I don't think it's anomalous. |
| 15:09.49 | rdancer | fucking demigods! what's the /ignore command for irssi? |
| 15:09.53 | xuser | In what part the X config files do i disable 6000 tcp port? |
| 15:09.58 | ricky_clarkson | rdancer: /ignore rdancer ALL |
| 15:09.59 | rsalazar | ricky_clarkson: traceroute progressively reaches machines through the path packets should follow |
| 15:10.02 | caphuso | l4vim: read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-driver-synaptics/README.gz, look for guestmouse |
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| 15:10.13 | Delph | ricky_clarkson: wfm. |
| 15:10.17 | rdancer | ricky_clarkson: possibly. i mean without the sideeffects |
| 15:10.21 | QUACH-VU | -> :wq |
| 15:10.24 | ricky_clarkson | rdancer: #irssi or /help ignore |
| 15:10.31 | QUACH-VU | :wq |
| 15:10.32 | rdancer | ricky_clarkson: done. both |
| 15:10.35 | l4vim | caphuso : thnx but I need to disable it not only for X |
| 15:10.37 | ricky_clarkson | Delph: Works for you in what way? |
| 15:10.46 | Delph | rdancer: write a tiny perl script that intercepts that handler and does nothing. |
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| 15:10.49 | ricky_clarkson | QUACH-VU: /quit |
| 15:10.52 | QUACH-VU | <Xenguy> QUACH-VU: try typing -> :wq <-- where should i type it? |
| 15:11.02 | Delph | rdancer: that message is irssi's response to a server message saying that its unable to send your message. |
| 15:11.06 | l4vim | caphuso : my trackpoint make crazy moves by his self |
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| 15:11.09 | rdancer | ricky_clarkson: caphuso sits there, and tells me to rtfm |
| 15:11.12 | rsalazar | ricky_clarkson: should give you the first ip reachable from your host, though, not your host's ip |
| 15:11.19 | ricky_clarkson | rdancer: That's his job. |
| 15:11.19 | rdancer | Delph: wrong |
| 15:11.25 | Delph | rdancer: wrong? |
| 15:11.26 | LesleyB | Delph: if that's so how come people can see me talking here? |
| 15:11.34 | rdancer | Delph: that's coming from the server |
| 15:11.36 | Delph | because at least one server on the network is buggered. |
| 15:11.48 | ricky_clarkson | rsalazar: If you traceroute a machine that would be on your subnet, but isn't there, what happens? |
| 15:11.52 | caphuso | it's in the god damn freenode news mentioned in the /topic |
| 15:12.07 | caphuso | the network is fucked up |
| 15:12.09 | rdancer | caphuso: there's nothing in the topic about this |
| 15:12.18 | Xenguy | QUACH-VU: I am guessing that you are editing with the 'vi' editor (this may or may not be true). If you are, then typing :wq will save and quit. Unless you give more details, that's all I can suggest. |
| 15:12.20 | caphuso | rdancer: there is |
| 15:12.21 | rdancer | caphuso: i've read it twice, and it weren't there even once |
| 15:12.27 | rdancer | caphuso: quote |
| 15:12.32 | obell | hi all, how can i adjust the version of a package to my version, im recompiling postfix with VDA support, and i only want to add -vda to the version and change the maintainer |
| 15:12.33 | Delph | rdancer: i'm helping write an irc proxy: i recognise the symptoms =:) |
| 15:12.43 | rsalazar | ricky_clarkson: i get myself as an answer... it shouldn't work this way, imho |
| 15:12.57 | Delph | rdancer: possibly the topic hasn't propigated to your server yet. |
| 15:12.59 | ricky_clarkson | rsalazar: But with a H! at the end, right? |
| 15:13.05 | rsalazar | ricky_clarkson: yeah |
| 15:13.08 | caphuso | rdancer: did you read the part about parts of the network being shut down? |
| 15:13.09 | obell | i can patch it rebuild it and make debs.. but then the version is the same as the original debian maintainer |
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| 15:13.19 | rdancer | Delph: ':benford.freenode.net 404 rdancer #debian :The channel demigods have stolen your voice |
| 15:13.29 | caphuso | rdancer: including main hubs? |
| 15:13.34 | rdancer | Delph: tell me this is client response, and i won't believe you |
| 15:13.34 | ricky_clarkson | rsalazar: I think that's traceroute's way of telling you that YOUR machine says "host not responding". |
| 15:13.46 | caphuso | rdancer: do you realize that this means that the whole network is well going out of sync? |
| 15:13.52 | ricky_clarkson | rdancer: For fuck's sake, just ignore it. |
| 15:13.55 | rdancer | caphuso: i've read it all. nothing about demigods |
| 15:13.58 | rsalazar | ricky_clarkson: no, the ! means the ttl field was <=1 |
| 15:14.00 | caphuso | rdancer: ok |
| 15:14.03 | rdancer | ricky_clarkson: i'd like to, but i don't know how |
| 15:14.09 | abrotman | is it gone yet? |
| 15:14.11 | abrotman | bah |
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| 15:14.17 | Delph | rdancer: yes; thats irc message 404 (a server is telling you it can't send a message to a channel), with the informative message given by the message after the : |
| 15:14.18 | rdancer | caphuso: there's nothing about obnoxious server responses |
| 15:14.19 | caphuso | rdancer: one more line about that and you really won't have a voice left. last warning |
| 15:14.28 | caphuso | what a dumbass |
| 15:14.29 | ricky_clarkson | rdancer: By not switching to the window where your freenode messages appear. |
| 15:14.30 | abrotman | now .. do they actually know how to fix this ? |
| 15:14.36 | rsalazar | ricky_clarkson: why it does that, i'd have to think about it d-: |
| 15:14.36 | abrotman | or is it just luck ? |
| 15:14.56 | rdancer | ricky_clarkson: hmm, good point. i have them interwined |
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| 15:15.36 | abrotman | ricky_clarkson: mine appears in channel |
| 15:15.36 | rdancer | which exactly is why it's *very* annoying |
| 15:15.40 | ricky_clarkson | rsalazar: Looks for Ethernet address in ARP table, doesn't find it. Sends out an ARP packet asking for the Ethernet address, then times out and reports as such. |
| 15:16.03 | ricky_clarkson | rsalazar: I could do with knowing whether that's standard behaviour for traceroute on, e.g., Windows too. |
| 15:16.03 | obell | somebody knows something about rebuilding from debian source packages ? |
| 15:16.29 | rdancer | obell: apt-get -b source foo |
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| 15:16.48 | obell | hi all, how can i adjust the version of a package to my version, im recompiling postfix with VDA support, and i only want to add -vda to the version and change the maintainer |
| 15:16.50 | obell | somebody knows something about rebuilding from debian source packages ? |
| 15:16.53 | obell | somebody knows something about rebuilding from debian source packages ? |
| 15:16.53 | rsalazar | ricky_clarkson: it's documented, you were right, !H means host not found |
| 15:17.09 | Rawplayer | obell: dont repeat? |
| 15:17.15 | obell | damn sorry, about that keyboard not so good.. |
| 15:17.21 | Xenguy | obell: you just bought yourself 30 minutes :P |
| 15:17.29 | obell | cool :D |
| 15:17.35 | Xenguy | hehe |
| 15:17.47 | ricky_clarkson | !confuse obell |
| 15:17.48 | badgers | No, where are your weasel yesterday, obell? breeches of the people's republic of tahiti with extra ham |
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| 15:18.11 | quitte | obell just change the changelog |
| 15:18.21 | obell | im rebuilding postfix with vda support, ik can rebuild it but where can i change the version of postfix to 2.1.5-vda |
| 15:18.29 | SlayerXP | obell: yes, somebody knows something about rebuilding from debian source packages |
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| 15:18.50 | quitte | obell really - change the changelog |
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| 15:19.21 | obell | ok checking that first now.. ;-) |
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| 15:20.45 | obell | ok i see the change log, i just add my versio to it ? thats it ?? really ? |
| 15:20.51 | caphuso | obell: yes |
| 15:21.02 | obell | cool, i like debian :D |
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| 15:24.18 | obell | uh guys, what about dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package |
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| 15:25.57 | obell | the firest line of the changelog is: postfix (2.1.5-4) unstable; urgency=low, i changed it to postfix (2.1.5-4-VDA) unstable; urgency=low .. |
| 15:26.42 | serfurj | are debian packages associated with a specific debian version like slackware packages? i'm having trouble with recursive dependencies. |
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| 15:27.03 | abrotman | serfurj: did you try to mix ? |
| 15:27.06 | abrotman | !bobbitt |
| 15:27.07 | badgers | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install unstable software on your stable woody system, you get the same result. |
| 15:27.08 | caphuso | obell: you're probably in the wrong directory |
| 15:27.22 | obell | serfurj : if you build from source try apt-get -y build-dep yourpackage |
| 15:27.42 | serfurj | abrotman: not sure what you mean, i'm downloading from the debian packages site and there is only stable, testing, unstable.. |
| 15:27.54 | obell | caphuso : so i only change the diretory name to postfix-2.1.5-VDA ? |
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| 15:28.09 | abrotman | serfurj: you can't mix stable,testing,unstable .. things break |
| 15:28.19 | serfurj | obell: i don't have apt-get. it's an embedded debian on a psion palmtop |
| 15:28.19 | caphuso | obell: no. you need to execute dpkg-buildpackage in the toplevel directory of the source tree |
| 15:28.20 | Fermat | hi |
| 15:28.38 | caphuso | obell: so, if you're in the debian subdirectory, do "cd .." |
| 15:28.51 | quitte | why do i feel like that will fail without a number in VDA? |
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| 15:29.16 | cadu | hi! in what package can i find the "dos2unix" utility ? |
| 15:29.22 | serfurj | abrotman: i would like to download only packages that have correct versions of their dependencies in my debian version (woody) |
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| 15:29.38 | obell | caphuso : i was in the top level dir of postfix .. :-( |
| 15:29.48 | Fermat | is there a way to customize numbers in logrotations? instead of .0 .1 .2 .3, use a date or something :? |
| 15:29.55 | abrotman | serfurj: then use apt-get ... |
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| 15:30.10 | abrotman | Fermat: check man logrotate.conf ? |
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| 15:30.19 | Xenguy | cadu: 'flip' will work |
| 15:30.22 | serfurj | abrotman: see my message to obell |
| 15:30.27 | obell | uh i see the problem.. i added at line 5 the time CET |
| 15:30.33 | Fermat | abrotman i didn't find it there :S |
| 15:30.48 | Fermat | and in syslog.conf either |
| 15:30.49 | Fermat | :S |
| 15:30.50 | abrotman | serfurj: dear god |
| 15:30.57 | serfurj | abrotman: it's an embedded debian on a psion palmtop, so i don't have enough resources for apt-get |
| 15:31.33 | abrotman | serfurj: that sounds .. horrible :) |
| 15:31.33 | abrotman | serfurj: hrm .. do you kow which source you were using / |
| 15:31.33 | abrotman | ? |
| 15:31.33 | serfurj | abrotman: woody |
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| 15:31.48 | abrotman | serfurj: then get woody packages ? |
| 15:32.00 | serfurj | abrotman: yeah, but how. i'm new to debian |
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| 15:32.33 | obell | cool guys it work realy great thanx :D |
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| 15:32.37 | cadu | Xenguy :) |
| 15:32.47 | Xenguy | cadu: yw |
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| 15:33.12 | obell | if somebody want postfix-2.1.5-4-VDA for testing/unstable just ask.. |
| 15:33.32 | Tall-guy | anyone have a pointer for installing mysql on Woody? |
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| 15:33.49 | gurubie | What does "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block (0,0)" mean? |
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| 15:33.57 | ipp | Hello all |
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| 15:34.04 | LesleyB | I've just gone to http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#testing to use jigdo to download the latest sarge and there is no UK version |
| 15:34.08 | Rawplayer | gurubie: mostly that grub is not configured right |
| 15:34.09 | ipp | Does anybody here use stlport? |
| 15:34.14 | obell | Tall-guy : apt-get install mysql-server of www.backports.org |
| 15:34.23 | Tall-guy | obell.....thanx bud |
| 15:34.26 | serfurj | gurubie: you probably told it to boot from the wrong partition |
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| 15:35.36 | ipp | nobody |
| 15:37.04 | gurubie | serfurj: thanks but it;s the same partiton as a another working grub title. I'll try reducing the sring to "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10 root=/dev/hda3". |
| 15:37.28 | abrotman | serfurj: if you don't have apt-get .. you will have to download the package and it's dependencies manually |
| 15:37.54 | LSorensen | gurubie: what kernel works and which doesn't? |
| 15:38.04 | LSorensen | gurubie: and which type of HD? |
| 15:38.44 | gurubie | Why does a Deb kern image install a initrd automatically and my custom kernel ("make-kpkg" and install the image) does not? |
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| 15:39.07 | serfurj | abrotman: do you know of a website where i can download woody packages? or should i just download the woody CDs |
| 15:39.09 | caphuso | gurubie: because you didn't use --initrd? |
| 15:39.22 | abrotman | serfurj: you can download them from packages.debian.org |
| 15:39.32 | obell | serfurj : www.apt-get.org www.backports.org www.debian.org |
| 15:39.33 | abrotman | serfurj: even with the CDs .. apt-get is the best thing |
| 15:39.42 | abrotman | obell: packages.debian.org |
| 15:39.44 | abrotman | and none other |
| 15:39.48 | serfurj | gurubie: try "/vmlinuz-2.6.10 root=/dev/hda3" |
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| 15:40.08 | gurubie | LSorensen: Thanks very much: THe Deb 2.6.10-1-k7 works my custom (sisfb/bootsrceen/ext3) build dosen't (or the grubs wrong). |
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| 15:41.29 | LSorensen | gurubie: then it is time to diff the /boot/config for each one |
| 15:41.33 | serfurj | abrotman: i guess i'm just not catching on to the debian code name system. does stable = woody? |
| 15:41.46 | abrotman | serfurj: yes |
| 15:41.50 | directhex|work | serfurj, woody is debian 3.0. at the moment, debian 3.0 is stable |
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| 15:41.51 | LSorensen | gurubie: debian has used make-kpkg --initrd since they know their kernels require it |
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| 15:42.06 | directhex|work | serfurj, in the future, 3.0 will be old, and 3.1 will be stable. |
| 15:42.07 | abrotman | serfurj: the other places obell mentioned are unofficial packages .. the apt-get.org and backports.org .. we tend not to help people with those here |
| 15:42.08 | rdancer | serfurj: unless sarge has been released, yes |
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| 15:42.08 | LSorensen | gurubie: if you didn't add --initrd to your make-kpkg command it won't create one on install |
| 15:42.13 | gurubie | serfurj: caphuso: If it boot without initrd (ext3 complied in), will I have to recompile anyway (w/--initrd) to utilise "initrd.splash" for a bootsreen? |
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| 15:42.19 | yeaH | how do i install i file i've downloaded? |
| 15:42.21 | serfurj | abrotman: directhex|work: thanks |
| 15:42.31 | LSorensen | gurubie: after all the person that makes the kernel knows how it is configured and hecne knows if the kernel will need an initrd or not |
| 15:42.32 | directhex|work | yeaH, could you be more vague please? |
| 15:42.34 | abrotman | define file |
| 15:42.40 | abrotman | define install i guess too |
| 15:43.03 | yeaH | the name of the file is: et-linux-2.55.x86.run.txt |
| 15:43.04 | dan2 | anybody up for tetrinet |
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| 15:43.22 | dan2 | abrotman: want to play tetrinet? |
| 15:43.30 | vile_maxim | I'm trying to install clamav from backports.org and getting "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" when installing clamav-freshclam. Can anyone give a guy a clue? |
| 15:43.32 | Xenguy | Well I don't think you should have to do that. Did you do 'crontab -e', and if yes, for root user or an ordinary user? |
| 15:43.36 | abrotman | dan2: no offense .. but shouldn't you be in school ? |
| 15:43.42 | dan2 | abrotman: I am in school |
| 15:43.52 | LSorensen | Hmm |
| 15:43.58 | abrotman | dan2: i think you need more school if you can play tetrinet while learning :) |
| 15:44.00 | gurubie | LSorensen: My kernel build instrutions made no mention of initrd so soory to be such a newbi. |
| 15:44.02 | LSorensen | What ever is this: 10:50 [debian] -!- #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice |
| 15:44.05 | directhex|work | yeaH, 'sh et-linux-2.55.x86.run.txt' |
| 15:44.06 | LesleyB | jigdo question : I've found the GB mirrors and am getting sarge 1 down : is it possible to automate the retrieval process further i.e. by not having to specify get disk 1 and then get disk 2 or do I have to wait for disk 1 to come down b4 i can get disk 2 started? |
| 15:44.08 | abrotman | LSorensen: /topic |
| 15:44.09 | dan2 | abrotman: midterm week |
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| 15:44.12 | dan2 | abrotman: boredom |
| 15:44.14 | abrotman | dan2: ah .. gotcha |
| 15:44.16 | dhioney | oi |
| 15:44.16 | LSorensen | gurubie: I don't personalyl bother making my own 2.6 kernel builds at this time. |
| 15:44.17 | doub | hi |
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| 15:44.25 | dan2 | abrotman: play? |
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| 15:44.34 | yeaH | The name of the file is: et-linux-2.55.x86.run.txt it's allready located at home, but i need to know how to install |
| 15:44.37 | abrotman | dan2: do i get to blow something up? |
| 15:44.43 | dan2 | abrotman: possibly |
| 15:44.45 | abrotman | besides the boss' laptop ? |
| 15:44.53 | directhex|work | yeaH, you've had yoru answer. |
| 15:44.53 | gurubie | LSorensen: Y? |
| 15:44.58 | dan2 | abrotman: :) |
| 15:45.05 | dan2 | abrotman: you on linux or winblowz there |
| 15:45.09 | abrotman | dan2: one of the win2k patches is evil |
| 15:45.21 | LSorensen | gurubie: the debian kernels work perfectly for everything I have needed so far. |
| 15:45.22 | nvz | when logging in on a console, the time/date of last login is displayed with the motd below. is this info kept somewhere I can look and see when a user last logged in without logging in as that user? |
| 15:45.26 | abrotman | dan2: right now i'm on windows .. i was doing some other crap this morning i needed win32 for |
| 15:45.30 | rdancer | ... still nothing about strange messages from the server |
| 15:45.31 | dan2 | abrotman: ok |
| 15:45.31 | LSorensen | gurubie: 2.4 kernels I used to build my own |
| 15:45.52 | rdancer | abrotman: are you all talking about http://freenode.net/news.shtml ? |
| 15:45.53 | LSorensen | abrotman: hmm I see nothing in the topic that explains the message quite honestly |
| 15:45.59 | abrotman | rdancer: yes |
| 15:46.04 | abrotman | LSorensen: see what rdancer said |
| 15:46.13 | LSorensen | abrotman: that doesn't really seem to explain it |
| 15:46.18 | LesleyB | abrotman: if that topic statement was aimed at me then please bear in mind I am using Xp to do this download; and the instructions for using jigdo are how chall we say less than complete for those stuck on 'doze crap |
| 15:46.24 | abrotman | though .. i'm not sure that does it |
| 15:46.26 | LSorensen | abrotman: the service interuptions cause that message? |
| 15:46.29 | abrotman | LesleyB: it was not |
| 15:46.33 | abrotman | LSorensen: dunno .. ask lilo |
| 15:46.38 | dhioney | oi |
| 15:46.43 | doub | nvz: i don't quite understand what you want, but maybe lastlog is what you're looking for |
| 15:46.44 | LesleyB | abrotman thank you |
| 15:46.45 | LSorensen | abrotman: Nah, I will just ignore the message :) |
| 15:46.51 | rdancer | abrotman: what in the fine document that URL references says anything about any messages, obnoxiousness, or demigods? |
| 15:46.59 | nvz | doub: lastlog? |
| 15:47.09 | gurubie | DO I have to put that --initrd in on make-kpkg in order to use bootsreen and it's eventual initrd.splash? |
| 15:47.11 | abrotman | LesleyB: why do you want sarge isos ? |
| 15:47.15 | nvz | doub: I want to know when this user was last on this machine |
| 15:47.20 | abrotman | rdancer: i didn't make the topic |
| 15:47.28 | doub | nvz: yes, lastlog lists when all registered users last logged in |
| 15:47.43 | rdancer | abrotman: but you claim it answers this question. it doesn't. |
| 15:47.47 | dan2 | abrotman: install gtetrinet if you are on unix, or download blocktrix for windows |
| 15:47.48 | EdibleText | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:47.49 | doub | nvz: ie, all users in /etc/passwd |
| 15:47.55 | abrotman | rdancer: i didn't make it .. ask whichever op did |
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| 15:48.32 | rdancer | abrotman: but you claim it answers this question. it doesn't. |
| 15:48.33 | nvz | doub: jep. thats what I wanted ;) |
| 15:48.48 | abrotman | rdancer: the problem we are having is why it was put there .. if it answers the question .. i don't konw .. but that's why it's there |
| 15:48.49 | kuja | Gathond: I found what the problem was :P |
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| 15:49.07 | abrotman | dan2: oh .. it's really tetris .. i'm really bad at tetris |
| 15:49.17 | abrotman | dan2: i've never gotten past like 40 lines |
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| 15:49.24 | dan2 | abrotman: ;) |
| 15:49.34 | abrotman | dan2: i can try a night at home if you really want |
| 15:49.36 | dan2 | abrotman: my boss is the tetris champion of the world |
| 15:49.48 | abrotman | dan2: i am not .. my brother .. he is freaking awesome ... |
| 15:49.53 | abrotman | dan2: he plays for hourz |
| 15:49.55 | abrotman | hours |
| 15:49.55 | dan2 | abrotman: he went and won the nintendo championship |
| 15:50.06 | EdibleText | dan2, whoa |
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| 15:50.18 | abrotman | dan2: he should play my brother |
| 15:50.25 | dan2 | abrotman: he'd crush your brother |
| 15:50.34 | dhioney | oi |
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| 15:50.38 | dan2 | abrotman: I still have yet to beat him once |
| 15:50.39 | abrotman | dan2: maybe .. maybe not .. it's disgusting to watch him .. he can play for hours |
| 15:50.47 | LesleyB | abrotman: I tried a woody r3 install and had trouble with the X windows side of things |
| 15:50.49 | abrotman | dan2: he usually gets bored and quits |
| 15:50.49 | dan2 | abrotman: I can play for hours |
| 15:50.57 | abrotman | LesleyB: but you don't need all the ISOs |
| 15:51.00 | abrotman | !tell LesleyB about d-i |
| 15:51.11 | nvz | tetris is incredibly boring. |
| 15:51.17 | vile_maxim | I got "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" error. while installing clamav-freshclam on a woody box. Anyone know why? |
| 15:51.35 | abrotman | dan2: sounds like nvz wants to play |
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| 15:51.41 | dhioney | oi |
| 15:51.41 | dvs | nvz: what about welltris? |
| 15:51.44 | rdancer | doub: tetris pieces are 4 at most |
| 15:51.50 | dan2 | nvz: :P |
| 15:52.05 | doub | rdancer: ah ok. i bet that's the answer |
| 15:52.08 | dan2 | rdancer: if your so good, play me |
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| 15:52.43 | nvz | tetris could be the new standard test for ADD(HD) |
| 15:52.44 | FieldySnuts | kiddies |
| 15:52.46 | l4vim | hello, how can I disable trackpoint on my synapstic touchpad/trackpoint (permanently not only for X) ? I have 2.6.11 kernel where Synapstic is detected and trackpoint works even when I have it disabled in BIOS |
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| 15:52.56 | LesleyB | abrotman: in what way is d-i better than having the CD's ? |
| 15:52.57 | nvz | if you're good at tetris, you do not have ADD |
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| 15:53.09 | dan2 | nvz: I have ADD |
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| 15:53.21 | abrotman | LesleyB: if you have broadband .. much less wasted bandwidth |
| 15:53.28 | runa | hey :) how can I sort files by time, recursively? |
| 15:53.34 | abrotman | dan2: i'm with nvz on that one |
| 15:53.44 | dan2 | abrotman: do you have ADD? |
| 15:54.00 | dan2 | nvz: you sure its not vice versa? |
| 15:54.03 | LesleyB | I guess there's no way to do || downloads with jigdo, then? |
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| 15:54.06 | abrotman | dan2: probably . i don't see doctors .. i like my freedom |
| 15:54.09 | dan2 | nvz: my boss is dyslexic and I think has ADD |
| 15:54.11 | EdibleText | nvz, people with ADD can focus on odd specific tasks but not on general tasks |
| 15:54.16 | abrotman | LesleyB: you can get sarge isos with out jigdo |
| 15:54.21 | nvz | EdibleText: oh, I see |
| 15:54.40 | zophyx | runa: use find and pipe it to sort |
| 15:54.40 | EdibleText | especially when its of interest to the individual |
| 15:54.43 | abrotman | is'nt that savant ? |
| 15:54.44 | dan2 | nvz: at least he's taking Zoloft, I don't know what it means in this case |
| 15:54.51 | FieldySnuts | test |
| 15:54.58 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: demigods lvoe you! |
| 15:55.05 | FieldySnuts | wait, why can you see this? |
| 15:55.19 | runa | zophyx: ok, I was expecting "ls -c -R -magic_option" ;) |
| 15:55.21 | FieldySnuts | and why am I getting that message? it's not +m and I'm not +q'd |
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| 15:55.45 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: it's broken |
| 15:55.49 | FieldySnuts | what is? |
| 15:55.51 | nvz | I dont know either but I am full of snot and got a sore throat I am working on over here.. so I dont feel much like talking right now |
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| 15:55.54 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: #debian :) |
| 15:55.54 | zophyx | lsd is magic, everything else is a wall street plot |
| 15:56.02 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: so you're getting it too? |
| 15:56.07 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: everyone is |
| 15:56.11 | FieldySnuts | wow. that's annoying. |
| 15:56.19 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: yes .. ask rdancer |
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| 15:56.47 | nvz | what the #debian thing? |
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| 15:56.52 | abrotman | dan2: would you like to play my brother? |
| 15:57.00 | FieldySnuts | bagderwangtektest |
| 15:57.02 | FieldySnuts | lame. |
| 15:57.04 | dan2 | abrotman: absolutely |
| 15:57.28 | abrotman | dan2: remind me in the evening one night .. he's offline right now |
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| 15:57.33 | nvz | I've been ignoring it.. just now read it.. thats why you loosers need wallops.. heh so you know whats going on. /me changes modes |
| 15:57.41 | abrotman | dan2: doing gov't work keeps you off AIM :) |
| 15:57.43 | FieldySnuts | i just put that on |
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| 15:57.54 | FieldySnuts | nvz: did you get something in wallops that I didn't? |
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| 15:58.26 | nvz | FieldySnuts: I didnt have wallops on.. cause I am busy finagling stuff over here.. I just now turned it on |
| 15:58.34 | FieldySnuts | me too |
| 15:58.38 | in\exhale | Instead of console I just get a blank screen. I can login and start XFree thought. Any ideas about what's going on?? |
| 15:59.01 | kuja | bash? |
| 15:59.02 | FieldySnuts | not starting a dm (xdm/gdm/kdm) perhaps |
| 15:59.11 | EdibleText | in\exhale, do you have two video cards? |
| 15:59.19 | FieldySnuts | nvz: heh i only get it here not other chans. goofy |
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| 15:59.31 | nvz | FieldySnuts: yep, I tried in #flood, doesnt happen |
| 15:59.34 | in\exhale | EdibleText, No I've got one with tv-out. I've got my tv connected too |
| 15:59.40 | nvz | FieldySnuts: no strange channel modes I can see |
| 15:59.41 | doub | in\exhale: are you using framebuffer console? |
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| 15:59.46 | PhUrl | hi all, |
| 15:59.59 | in\exhale | Yes. But everything was working till recently. I haven't touched any configuration files |
| 16:00.05 | EdibleText | in\exhale, its blank until X starts, then you get a login screen? |
| 16:00.07 | morbias | How would i go about removing my current soundcard fron alsa? |
| 16:00.29 | vile_maxim | testing |
| 16:00.32 | PhUrl | why is my voice stolen? |
| 16:00.41 | in\exhale | EdibleText, I just blindly login and startx and then it's all normal. When I go back to console everything blank and a cursor is blinking at top-left |
| 16:00.45 | kuja | PhUrl: It isn't. |
| 16:00.46 | nvz | FieldySnuts: see any idication in your client it may be a bot, or does it look like official server messages? |
| 16:00.47 | FieldySnuts | PhUrl: everyone's getting it, we're not sure why yet |
| 16:00.47 | PhUrl | ho |
| 16:00.52 | PhUrl | doh |
| 16:00.54 | PhUrl | thanks |
| 16:00.54 | kuja | PhUrl: You aren't +q'ed nor is the channel +m'ed. |
| 16:00.56 | EdibleText | in\exhale, oh |
| 16:00.59 | doub | in\exhale: is your card a SiS ? |
| 16:01.02 | FieldySnuts | nvz: just looks like I got +q'd |
| 16:01.12 | kuja | Some network problems I guess. |
| 16:01.14 | FieldySnuts | though I obviously am not |
| 16:01.19 | nvz | FieldySnuts: or -v'd when you were not +v in the first place |
| 16:01.20 | in\exhale | doub, no it's a geforce fx5600 |
| 16:01.21 | PhUrl | so, i want to mount a mac dmg disk image from debian |
| 16:01.26 | PhUrl | anyone have some tips? |
| 16:01.35 | PhUrl | fdisk does not know the sectors |
| 16:01.41 | PhUrl | and mount does not know the fstype |
| 16:01.44 | FieldySnuts | what does file say about it? |
| 16:01.49 | Jellybob | PhUrl, try using tar to extract it |
| 16:02.01 | PhUrl | dotmacsdk_1.1.dmg: VAX COFF executable not stripped |
| 16:02.07 | in\exhale | it was working with the current fb drivers. It stopped suddenly after a reboot. All I touched is that I upgraded a few packages |
| 16:02.12 | doub | in\exhale: what happens when you switch consoles (alt-f2) and back (alt-f1) |
| 16:02.12 | FieldySnuts | i have no idea what that is, sorry |
| 16:02.15 | in\exhale | not releated to the console thought |
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| 16:02.25 | PhUrl | tarzeau: This does not look like a tar archive |
| 16:02.31 | PhUrl | it is a disk image |
| 16:02.37 | PhUrl | it needs to be mounted |
| 16:02.37 | in\exhale | doub, I get nothing just a blank screen with a cursor blinking at top-left |
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| 16:02.47 | Jellybob | PhUrl, ok, I thought I remembered something about them being tarballs |
| 16:02.49 | in\exhale | But the consoles ARE working |
| 16:02.56 | tarzeau | PhUrl: excuse me? |
| 16:03.00 | doub | in\exhale: does dmesg say anything particular? |
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| 16:03.48 | nvz | !seen lilo |
| 16:03.49 | badgers | lilo is currently on #debian |
| 16:04.02 | dvs | badgers? |
| 16:04.04 | PhUrl | they have a tool called hdiutil for macos |
| 16:04.09 | in\exhale | doub, it says loading vesafb etc etc |
| 16:04.10 | in\exhale | no errors |
| 16:04.13 | EdibleText | dpkg, must be sick |
| 16:04.16 | nvz | dvs: its sussudio's bot.. comes in to server when dpkg isnt well |
| 16:04.27 | Jacobo221 | hey, how can I make it to display asterisks in the shell login password? login.defs and pam.d/ seems of no help. any ideas? |
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| 16:04.44 | nevyn | badgers: mushroom |
| 16:04.44 | badgers | nevyn: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 16:05.12 | PhUrl | tarzeau: ? |
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| 16:05.21 | disc | hi |
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| 16:05.40 | nevyn | badgers: mushroom |
| 16:05.41 | badgers | badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger |
| 16:05.44 | takatumi | in\exhale: are you passing any vga=xxx boot params? |
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| 16:05.48 | nvz | oh well that hot chocolate seem to loosen it up.. my thoat is still sore.. /me whines |
| 16:05.49 | disc | ih |
| 16:05.58 | in\exhale | takatumi, vga=0 |
| 16:06.00 | disc | wtf is it: #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice ? |
| 16:06.07 | Delph | disc: last link in the topic. |
| 16:06.09 | ricky_clarkson | disc: Network problems. Ignore it. |
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| 16:06.16 | nvz | disc: /umode +w disc |
| 16:06.19 | disc | ok |
| 16:06.20 | disc | thx |
| 16:06.21 | nvz | disc: we'll keep you posted |
| 16:06.26 | nvz | disc: as soon as we find out |
| 16:06.29 | nvz | heh |
| 16:06.40 | takatumi | in\exhale: try vga=791 |
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| 16:06.43 | RoldyXP | hi |
| 16:06.47 | tarzeau | 17:02 < PhUrl> tarzeau: This does not look like a tar archive |
| 16:06.58 | disc | so |
| 16:07.03 | disc | when i want to remove opengate |
| 16:07.05 | disc | i get this error |
| 16:07.06 | disc | Stopping H.323 gatekeeper: dpkg: error processing opengate (--remove): |
| 16:07.06 | disc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.06 | *** kick/#debian [disc!~debhelper@debhelper.user] by debhelper (flood: Consider using #flood) |
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| 16:07.09 | PhUrl | sorrty |
| 16:07.22 | disc | so Stopping H.323 gatekeeper: dpkg: error processing opengate (--remove): |
| 16:07.22 | disc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.29 | RoldyXP | ok |
| 16:07.32 | alemao | has anyone configured a CVS with OPENed debian packages?! how do build the packagae without those CVS dirs inside any directory? |
| 16:07.33 | disc | what can i do with tthat? |
| 16:08.15 | disc | i want to remove this |
| 16:08.19 | RoldyXP | --remove????? |
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| 16:08.36 | RoldyXP | disc ???? |
| 16:08.44 | disc | what the question? |
| 16:08.45 | PhUrl | http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/08/msg08967.html mount -o loop,ro -t xxx <filename> <mountpoint> |
| 16:08.50 | doub | disc: try running the script by hand with sh -x to see what's going wrong (assuming the script is sh) |
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| 16:09.13 | RoldyXP | apt-get remove --purge namepackage |
| 16:09.42 | disc | same |
| 16:09.51 | disc | doub: what script? |
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| 16:10.14 | hassan | hi |
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| 16:10.30 | dam___ | Hi ! |
| 16:10.37 | hassan | hi nice room |
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| 16:10.47 | RoldyXP | disc paste your message in pv |
| 16:10.48 | hassan | any lady like chat |
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| 16:11.04 | register_ | exit |
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| 16:11.13 | dam___ | did anybody manage to install sybase ase linux express on a debian woody ? |
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| 16:11.48 | PhUrl | ok, i give up |
| 16:11.59 | Berna | Algum Brasileiro na sala |
| 16:12.17 | RoldyXP | Berna yo soy espaniol |
| 16:12.23 | bbhill | caralho |
| 16:12.25 | doub | disc: the prerm script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/<pkgname>.prerm |
| 16:12.39 | sussudio | !pt |
| 16:12.40 | badgers | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 16:12.55 | Berna | RoldyXP voce sabe onde eu arrumo o kernel do Mandrake para baixar |
| 16:13.18 | bbhill | #mandrake |
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| 16:13.22 | bbhill | wait is that even a channel? |
| 16:13.29 | Berna | #mandrake |
| 16:13.45 | in\exhale | ok, I got it working.... |
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| 16:14.48 | rsalazar | is there a gui for editing /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf "a la windows"? |
| 16:15.28 | PhUrl | yast? |
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| 16:15.30 | PhUrl | heheh |
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| 16:15.54 | asg | rsalazar: no, just sensible-editor in a terminal |
| 16:15.56 | disc | doub: the script runs without any errors |
| 16:15.59 | dvs | rsalazar: You _must_ be joking. |
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| 16:16.17 | disc | if i execute it by hand |
| 16:16.35 | RoldyXP | jax_max outa here!!! |
| 16:16.48 | FieldySnuts | my system just beeped about 25 times, was somebody goofing around in here? |
| 16:16.53 | rsalazar | no, not joking, and you would be surprised at the huge amount of users who want to try linux and get stuck at that part... and then they call me *sigh* |
| 16:16.56 | doub | disc: it's a shell script? |
| 16:17.01 | disc | yup |
| 16:17.01 | bbhill | FieldySnuts: joo have been hax0red |
| 16:17.04 | EdibleText | PhUrl, did you mount it yet? |
| 16:17.17 | PhUrl | nope |
| 16:17.24 | PhUrl | it might be hfsplus |
| 16:17.31 | PhUrl | but dont have that in the kernel |
| 16:17.37 | PhUrl | i viewd the file |
| 16:17.39 | EdibleText | PhUrl, I bet the image needs to be mounted at an offset |
| 16:17.44 | disc | doub: can i show u in prv? its small |
| 16:17.48 | PhUrl | yeah, i think your are right |
| 16:17.52 | PhUrl | i saw a page on that, |
| 16:17.52 | doub | disc: then put a '-x' at the end of the first line (#!/bin/sh -x or the like) and try removing again, it'll show what goes wrong |
| 16:17.59 | disc | ok |
| 16:18.02 | rsalazar | try guiding someone who has never touched a console through editing files by hand... |
| 16:18.07 | PhUrl | let me see of if i can find that EdibleText |
| 16:18.15 | chealer | rsalazar: use nano |
| 16:18.26 | EdibleText | PhUrl, I have had to do that whith disk images to mount the individual partitions |
| 16:18.38 | PhUrl | cool |
| 16:18.42 | rsalazar | chealer: yes, i wouldn't dream of telling them to do it with vi |
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| 16:18.56 | disc | doub: i put -x and with that way it writes more errors |
| 16:19.00 | samuel | hello all |
| 16:19.03 | EdibleText | PhUrl, losetup will be the tool to use once you figure out the offset |
| 16:19.09 | samuel | huh? |
| 16:19.19 | disc | or more things |
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| 16:19.21 | PhUrl | http://lists.ssc.com/pipermail/linux-list/2004-December/022570.html |
| 16:19.22 | EdibleText | PhUrl, you have to do a little math with sectors and stuff |
| 16:19.28 | FieldySnuts | test |
| 16:19.30 | PhUrl | losetup |
| 16:19.35 | EdibleText | PhUrl, simple thoough |
| 16:19.40 | *** part/#debian samuel (~samuel@200.77.167.133) |
| 16:19.46 | EdibleText | !losetup |
| 16:19.51 | doub | disc: it displays every executed command, maybe you can locate the fault somewhere. if not, paste the output in #flood |
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| 16:20.09 | lilo | hmmm |
| 16:20.16 | *** mode/#debian [-o lilo] by lilo |
| 16:20.19 | lilo | oops |
| 16:20.23 | PhUrl | sudo apt-get install loop-aes-utils lvm-common lvm10 |
| 16:20.25 | lilo | there we go |
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| 16:20.30 | lilo | not seeing the problem still |
| 16:20.31 | EdibleText | !lart lilo |
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| 16:20.42 | FieldySnuts | test |
| 16:20.46 | FieldySnuts | weird |
| 16:20.49 | nevyn | badgers: mushroom |
| 16:20.51 | badgers | badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger |
| 16:20.55 | FieldySnuts | oh geez |
| 16:21.07 | EdibleText | :) hi lilo |
| 16:21.07 | caphuso | hrm, i think i could get used to quilt |
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| 16:21.36 | FieldySnuts | so many chan/server modes these days I can't remember or know what might be causin the issue |
| 16:21.42 | chealer | rsalazar: did you try etherconf? |
| 16:22.09 | rsalazar | chealer: gonna take a look, thanks |
| 16:22.12 | samuel | hello all |
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| 16:22.19 | TomSawyer | hmmm |
| 16:22.24 | TomSawyer | interesting |
| 16:22.43 | Ober | `/msg kal0 hey |
| 16:22.46 | TomSawyer | testing |
| 16:22.50 | samuel | why have the channel demigods stolen my voice? |
| 16:22.57 | caphuso | samuel: they didn't |
| 16:22.59 | TomSawyer | an excellent question |
| 16:23.01 | TomSawyer | they haven't |
| 16:23.19 | samuel | caphuso, oooh, so why does #debian tell me they did? |
| 16:23.31 | samuel | or does it do that to everyone now? |
| 16:23.33 | EdibleText | samuel, we have people working on that |
| 16:23.38 | *** mode/#debian [+m] by lilo |
| 16:23.41 | *** mode/#debian [-m] by lilo |
| 16:23.42 | lilo | try again |
| 16:23.43 | vorsprung | what processes could cause filesystem corruption? |
| 16:23.45 | caphuso | test |
| 16:23.47 | TomSawyer | test |
| 16:23.50 | FieldySnuts | i like cake and badgers |
| 16:23.50 | zinx | samuel: that's freenode telling you.. it's because of the +l and the netsplit earlier, most likely |
| 16:23.56 | FieldySnuts | ah the good ole dsync |
| 16:23.57 | zinx | o_O |
| 16:23.59 | caphuso | !praise lilo |
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| 16:24.04 | asg | FieldySnuts: marcy playground? |
| 16:24.05 | zinx | oh, it somehow got +m on one of the servers? |
| 16:24.07 | FieldySnuts | oldie but goodie |
| 16:24.12 | samuel | anyone familiar with emdebian? |
| 16:24.21 | lilo | caphuso: you know, if you got rid of both !praise and !lart, I'd consider it a dead win ;) |
| 16:24.26 | zinx | TS failure? |
| 16:24.36 | FieldySnuts | id10t error? |
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| 16:24.37 | asg | samuel: looked at it as a possible candidate for the soekris box I'm building. Will probably go with OpenBSD though. |
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| 16:24.44 | vorsprung | zinx, TS? |
| 16:24.46 | nvz | FieldySnuts: Jj are join limit, L is large, P is perminant, c is no colors, f is forward uninvited, n is no external messages, and t is only ops can set topic... its all legit |
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| 16:24.52 | caphuso | lilo: i could, but they'd both be back as soon as i turned my back to the bot :) |
| 16:25.07 | nvz | FieldySnuts: it seems to have gone away.. though |
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| 16:25.10 | FieldySnuts | at least you didn't mhallsmite him. |
| 16:25.13 | lilo | caphuso: yup |
| 16:25.20 | EdibleText | lilo, the bot has much worse |
| 16:25.21 | FieldySnuts | nvz: yes, because lilo +m / -m. servers were desynced |
| 16:25.22 | lilo | FieldySnuts: I just don't want to know ;) |
| 16:25.25 | lilo | EdibleText: yes |
| 16:25.26 | zinx | vorsprung: timestamp.. |
| 16:25.30 | FieldySnuts | lilo: you're right heh |
| 16:25.38 | nvz | ah |
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| 16:25.50 | samuel | asg, im trying to build something of a dvd/digital recorder with emdebian... but ive run into a problem... i cant find anywhere thats sells a disk on flash reader... |
| 16:26.25 | jeff | samuel: something that takes CF and provides an IDE interface? |
| 16:26.34 | asg | samuel: hmmm |
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| 16:26.36 | samuel | asg, so i dont know how to put the os in there... im thinking netboot (but i dont know why it doesnt do boot from CD) |
| 16:26.56 | samuel | jeff, what would that be? |
| 16:26.57 | EdibleText | samuel, there are cheap IDE flash adapters, or use a flash pcmcia card |
| 16:27.19 | EdibleText | the latter is better has you can do wehat you need to but not reboot |
| 16:27.29 | vorsprung | zinx, I'm sorry I don't follow. The files have a mtime,ctime,atime etc etc how would it afflict the filesystem if these failed to write when needed? Also *how* would they fail to write, the processes running at user level don't control them directly...? |
| 16:27.31 | nvz | samuel: jeff they are usually scsi |
| 16:27.32 | LSorensen | samuel: disk on flash reader? What do you mean? |
| 16:27.35 | samuel | EdibleText, IDE flash adapter... |
| 16:27.42 | EdibleText | samuel, the flash pcmcia card is about 5 bucks |
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| 16:27.52 | samuel | LSorensen, YES - its a disk on flash i have |
| 16:27.53 | zinx | vorsprung: huh? the TS comment was about the +m breakage |
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| 16:27.57 | LSorensen | samuel: compact flash is ide compatible it just needs an adapter |
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| 16:28.10 | LSorensen | samuel: no idea what disk on flash is |
| 16:28.18 | EdibleText | samuel, IDE flash adapter is not hotswap though pcmcia is.. just so you know |
| 16:28.22 | LSorensen | samuel: I have heard of disk on a chip |
| 16:28.26 | abrotman | done yet? |
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| 16:28.29 | abrotman | yay |
| 16:28.50 | samuel | it is an IDE - but without the power strip |
| 16:28.52 | LSorensen | EdibleText: yeah compact flash has memory mapped, ide, and pcmcia modes. |
| 16:28.56 | samuel | lemme see... |
| 16:29.08 | LSorensen | samuel: is it laptop drive connector? |
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| 16:29.18 | LSorensen | samuel: mini 44pin ide? |
| 16:29.32 | EdibleText | LSorensen, handy when you have laptop and flash embeded devices :) |
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| 16:29.37 | LSorensen | samuel: if it is, that is easy to get an adapter for |
| 16:29.51 | LSorensen | EdibleText: absolutely. |
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| 16:30.08 | LSorensen | EdibleText: beats every other flash memory card format for flexibility that's for sure. |
| 16:30.10 | doub | nvz: did you find anything interesting? |
| 16:30.14 | directhex|work | http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info%5f5419%2ehtml ? |
| 16:30.18 | samuel | LSorensen, thats exactly what it is |
| 16:30.19 | jeff | aha! |
| 16:30.35 | nvz | doub: nope.. hoping to find what's got me all congested |
| 16:30.47 | samuel | EdibleText, I have a PCMCIA type I in my computer |
| 16:31.20 | EdibleText | samuel, good you can get the pcmcia flash adapter for cheap |
| 16:31.27 | samuel | http://www.acrosser.com/products/dof_ifd.htm |
| 16:32.33 | nvz | I am almost tempted to try this drug I never heard of |
| 16:32.39 | jeff | samuel: sorry, link i had is no longer valid. it was for a simple product that just allowed you to plug in a CF card to your IDE controller internally. |
| 16:32.44 | FieldySnuts | reality? |
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| 16:33.36 | samuel | EdibleText, you know of any place i can get this online? ive looked all over here in mexico |
| 16:33.39 | samuel | cant find it |
| 16:33.41 | nvz | oh well I dont even know where I put it. |
| 16:33.47 | samuel | anything for that matter |
| 16:33.59 | EdibleText | samuel, that appears to be a proprietary device (at first glance) |
| 16:34.35 | EdibleText | samuel, nevermind Im reading about it now |
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| 16:34.40 | samuel | its IDE |
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| 16:35.29 | nvz | bleh |
| 16:35.47 | EdibleText | samuel, looks like a flashcard/flashcard IDE adapter fusion |
| 16:36.30 | sussudio | in soviet russia, card flashes you |
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| 16:37.08 | rainbow5 | hi! how can i create a ramdrive? |
| 16:37.35 | doub | rainbow5: mount -t tmpfs -o size=<size you want> tmpfs <mount point> |
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| 16:38.29 | samuel | EdibleText, its weird is all i can say... the way to do it is to buy a HD and get an OS working and THEN connect the DOF, see it like a drive and load the OS - but that seems like too much to just get that working? |
| 16:38.33 | rainbow5 | doub: thanks |
| 16:39.00 | EdibleText | samuel, what hardware have you purchased already? |
| 16:39.34 | rainbow5 | doub: what unit does size have? |
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| 16:39.53 | thingfish | I love those "in soviet russia..." blurbs. |
| 16:39.57 | EdibleText | samuel, you may want to look at http://www.soekris.com/ |
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| 16:40.01 | EdibleText | thingfish, never gets old |
| 16:40.09 | Theoden | hi thingfish |
| 16:40.09 | bbhill | In soviet russia, blurb loves you! |
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| 16:40.17 | LarsAC | I cant get usbnet to work, any ideas ? |
| 16:40.17 | thingfish | heh for some reason I get a kick out of them. |
| 16:40.22 | thingfish | Hey, Theoden. |
| 16:40.26 | elnovato | does anyone uses here usb mouse? |
| 16:40.36 | sussudio | !irritate elnovato |
| 16:40.38 | badgers | $1: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? who uses sound plz msg me, $randnick |
| 16:40.41 | Theoden | thingfish: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=51191970541f9058ea2187&m=screen |
| 16:40.42 | samuel | EdibleText, its the AR-B1666, im looking for the webpage... |
| 16:40.53 | sussudio | :-| |
| 16:40.56 | dvs | oops |
| 16:41.00 | takatumi | !irritate badgers |
| 16:41.02 | badgers | $1: wenas how can I make my knoppix werkz lol |
| 16:41.05 | rdancer | !factinfo irritate |
| 16:41.05 | badgers | there's no such factoid as irritate, rdancer |
| 16:41.22 | sussudio | !berserker |
| 16:41.44 | doub | rainbow5: i bet it's bytes by default, but you can use modifiers (like 'M' for megabytes) iirc |
| 16:41.45 | thingfish | wow, Theoden, that's very nice! |
| 16:41.54 | PhUrl | EdibleText: i give up! |
| 16:42.02 | elnovato | no usb mouse user in this town? |
| 16:42.09 | sussudio | elnovato: be quiet |
| 16:42.12 | rainbow5 | doub: hm ok thx |
| 16:42.15 | EdibleText | elnovato, we dont use mice |
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| 16:42.36 | smcavoy | Hello, chkroot running on 3.1 keeps "finding" a possible infection of slapper. no location information is given. Can anyone direct me to a good resource on determining if this is a false positive or real? |
| 16:42.38 | EdibleText | in cyber-amish #debian mouse use YOU! |
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| 16:42.54 | elnovato | dont use mice?? |
| 16:42.58 | Theoden | thingfish: Thx |
| 16:43.05 | doub | rainbow5: see the doc in the kernel sources (in filesystems/tmpfs.txt iirc) |
| 16:43.23 | EdibleText | PhUrl, :) its not that hard |
| 16:43.26 | PhUrl | elnovato: you can use emacs entirly without a mouse, what you need anything else? |
| 16:43.30 | rainbow5 | doub: will do if i need more info |
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| 16:43.43 | EdibleText | !usb mouse |
| 16:43.44 | PhUrl | EdibleText: ok |
| 16:43.51 | elnovato | PhUrl: wow |
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| 16:44.10 | PhUrl | elnovato: i do use a mouse btw, just kidding! |
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| 16:44.24 | EdibleText | PhUrl, did you get the partition information from the image |
| 16:44.42 | warthawg | i finally solved my problem with my usbdrive and automount not working correctly. it had to do with actually plugging the cable into the pc. |
| 16:44.43 | PhUrl | fdisk acnnot read it |
| 16:44.46 | elnovato | PhUrl: hehe.. i knew , only gurus dont use mouse neither monitor |
| 16:44.57 | EdibleText | !tell elnovato about usb mouse |
| 16:45.16 | PhUrl | elnovato: yeah, they have a line printer and a morse code tapper to enter in codes |
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| 16:45.35 | warthawg | a morse code tapper? |
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| 16:45.51 | samuel | EdibleText, looks like the AR-B1666 is no longer there, but it has 4 Ethernet, USB, 144 DIMM.... here is the interesting bit, it has a normal IDE and a smaller IDE for the DOF without the two (power?) pins on the side |
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| 16:45.53 | PhUrl | i thingie that you can enter in morse code with. you know |
| 16:46.22 | warthawg | does it do chinese cut numbers and cyrillic, too? |
| 16:46.31 | Kupal[] | anyone setup a software raid throught the netinst image.. im a lil lost. |
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| 16:46.41 | PhUrl | warthawg: http://images.google.de/images?q=tbn:yaKMlRQNlb0J:www.qrpp-i.com/projects/ka8mav/keys/soviet_mini_key_c.jpg |
| 16:46.41 | greycat | Real Men enter all their data by waving a magnet over the hard disk. |
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| 16:46.45 | xai | Wheel group doesn't seem to be in testing.. is there a way to make a non-root user that can copy files preserving uid/gid and perms? |
| 16:46.55 | PhUrl | that |
| 16:46.59 | greycat | GNU/Linux has no "wheel" group, ever. |
| 16:47.10 | greycat | unless you make one, of course |
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| 16:47.21 | elnovato | somebody should fix the wheel }bugs |
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| 16:47.49 | warthawg | interesting key, i cant tell if its some kind of bug or not |
| 16:47.53 | greycat | I have no clue what system xai is used to, in which cp(1) is apparently setuid root or something. It's quite scary-sounding, though. |
| 16:48.13 | elnovato | god im hot |
| 16:48.21 | Kupal[] | so-no one has seup software raid before? |
| 16:48.25 | PhUrl | EdibleText: what FSTYPE do i need? |
| 16:48.27 | EdibleText | samuel, perhaps the smaller one is for a 2.5" drive (laptop) |
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| 16:48.53 | EdibleText | PhUrl, hmm let me see |
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| 16:49.16 | PhUrl | EdibleText: you have a max? |
| 16:49.18 | xai | greycat: i'm lookng for a way to do remote backups of images, without using root as the copying user.. I haven't found anything that will work yet. |
| 16:49.19 | PhUrl | mac? |
| 16:49.28 | elnovato | how to disable the mouse wheel also scroolls horizontal?? |
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| 16:50.17 | bbhill | GENTOO |
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| 16:50.20 | nvz | elnovato: you want to shut of your ability uo scroll up and down with the mouse wheel in X? |
| 16:50.28 | ghostie | isnt courier-authlib avail as package |
| 16:50.38 | elnovato | correction: how to disable the horizontal scrooll with the mouse wheel?? |
| 16:50.39 | thingfish | heh |
| 16:50.44 | bbhill | on gentoo there is a wheel group! |
| 16:50.46 | PhUrl | EdibleText: it is not worth it. |
| 16:50.50 | greycat | xai: BSD has a wheel group, of course, but it can't read files that are 600 root:wheel. |
| 16:50.53 | nvz | elnovato: its the ZAxisMapping "4 5" in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 16:50.54 | bbhill | teh wh331 |
| 16:50.54 | PhUrl | i wanted to take a look at the dotmac sdk |
| 16:50.56 | thingfish | I used the last of my garlic last night. |
| 16:51.01 | elnovato | nvz: i want to shut off the ability so scrool horizontal only |
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| 16:51.23 | PhUrl | but i wont be able to use it anyway |
| 16:51.39 | nvz | elnovato: oh well my mouse only scrolls vertically |
| 16:52.01 | elnovato | let me try nvz |
| 16:52.03 | nvz | elnovato: you got a 4d mouse with two scrollers? |
| 16:52.15 | greycat | xai: you either must be root to read all the files through the file system layer, or you must be in group 'disk' to read the data off the raw hard drive device (e.g. via dump) |
| 16:52.20 | greycat | xai: I don't see any other alternatives |
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| 16:53.01 | elnovato | nvz: yeah, my mouse has 4th dimension |
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| 16:53.46 | nvz | elnovato: I have no idea about additional mouse buttons or scrollers. |
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| 16:54.27 | xai | greycat: in that case, my scheme for remote backups looks like it needs root access on both sides. |
| 16:55.30 | greycat | they often do. |
| 16:55.32 | cpt_nemo | Does anyone know how to use something like this "fortune | xmessage -file -" in a Gnome2 launcher? |
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| 16:55.46 | cpt_nemo | Gnome2 seems to strip off the pipe '|' |
| 16:55.55 | cpt_nemo | It works fine with Gnome1.4 |
| 16:56.22 | doub | cpt_nemo maybe create a shell script from this and run it from your launcher |
| 16:56.45 | cpt_nemo | doub: I wanted to avoid creating a shell script. |
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| 16:58.23 | euth_ | i'm having a gpg problem: i run "gpg --check-trustdb" and i get "gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found" |
| 16:58.37 | caphuso | cpt_nemo: you realize that writing that shell script would have taken less keystrokes than your initial question? |
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| 16:58.48 | euth_ | or rather, i am trying to debug someone else's problem |
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| 16:59.16 | euth_ | when i do it on my account i get something like: gpg: checking at depth 0 signed=7 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=0/0/0/0/0/1 |
| 16:59.25 | euth_ | which seems like it is as it should be |
| 16:59.31 | euth_ | any suggestions? |
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| 16:59.38 | elnovato | tgesting |
| 16:59.46 | greycat | fgailed |
| 17:00.00 | cpt_nemo | caphuso: I realize that. I'm just a little reluctant to fire off processes left and right. But I guess, writing a shell script is the pragmatic solution. Gnome1.4 did it probably via a shell as well... |
| 17:00.01 | euth_ | at first i though that main key might not be self-signed, but that doesn't make sense because "gpg gen-key" also signs the key, right? |
| 17:00.05 | cpt_nemo | Thanks anyways. |
| 17:00.05 | elnovato | heh |
| 17:01.10 | dvs | euth_: I think you have to edit the key's trust level |
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| 17:02.55 | euth_ | dvs:okay i'll try that, thanks |
| 17:02.58 | Random832 | hlp-my-kyborD-brokn-hovv-to-mk-dasher-not-freeze |
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| 17:04.25 | toresbe | I HATE it when you're kicked |
| 17:04.29 | toresbe | and you try to rejoin |
| 17:04.34 | toresbe | and you're banned |
| 17:04.38 | morbias | hey.. i've just installed my cm7838 based 5.1 card, got it working with alsa, but i only get stereo (front speakers) .. any idea how i can fix that? |
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| 17:04.42 | Random832 | Anyone? |
| 17:04.52 | toresbe | and you can't see the name of the op because the window is f'ing closed |
| 17:04.53 | elnovato | toresbe: dont you like comunism? |
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| 17:05.03 | abrotman | Random832: are you being annoying on purpose |
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| 17:05.11 | abrotman | elnovato: shut up .. and fucking christ .. learn how to spell |
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| 17:05.20 | euth__ | whois euth__ |
| 17:05.31 | toresbe | euth__: that's you, dumbfuck |
| 17:05.34 | elnovato | abrotman: sorry ive lost the dictorionary |
| 17:05.35 | toresbe | :P |
| 17:05.40 | Random832 | no,kybord-rly-brokn |
| 17:05.42 | abrotman | exactly |
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| 17:05.50 | abrotman | Random832: get a new one |
| 17:05.57 | Random832 | ... |
| 17:06.01 | Random832 | funnyZX |
| 17:06.06 | abrotman | i wasn't joking |
| 17:06.09 | abrotman | have you tried another? |
| 17:06.11 | samuel | Random832, you dont need help, your ok... we understand what you are trying to say... therefore... not broken |
| 17:06.27 | Frem | hey, my .xinitrc file doesnt seem to work. Is there some special 'debianised' file I should be looking for? |
| 17:06.35 | morbias | look up remedial, you'll probably find your family name. |
| 17:06.36 | abrotman | Frem: to do what? |
| 17:06.45 | abrotman | morbias: you mean elnovato ? |
| 17:06.49 | Frem | abrotman, to automaticly start apps when I login |
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| 17:06.51 | cadu | !nvyu |
| 17:06.53 | ledet | Frem: are you using gdm or similar? |
| 17:06.53 | morbias | abrotman: probably :) |
| 17:06.53 | cadu | !nvu |
| 17:06.54 | badgers | hmm... nvu is a Mozilla based website editing program, at http://www.nvu.com/. No Debian package yet. |
| 17:06.55 | Random832 | ...not--vvork-vv3ll-nough-for-5lrnc |
| 17:07.02 | cadu | AWWW |
| 17:07.02 | morbias | abrotman: they're all the same to me. |
| 17:07.19 | euth__ | dvs: should i edit the private key or the public key? or does that question not even make sense? |
| 17:07.19 | Random832 | *5lrn |
| 17:07.34 | elnovato | elnovato this , elnovato that , elnovato said, ... |
| 17:07.39 | elnovato | bla bla.. |
| 17:07.41 | dvs | euth_: I'm not sure which one. I'd edit both. |
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| 17:08.02 | elnovato | i feel like a pop star |
| 17:08.13 | Random832 | 5[r3vv-you./quit |
| 17:08.16 | ricky_clarkson | I feel like a pop tart |
| 17:08.18 | EdibleText | !pop elnovato |
| 17:08.21 | Frem | abrotman: my .xinitrc was blank, so I just added the lines I wanted and then logged out & in again, but the program commands I added don't start. |
| 17:08.47 | EdibleText | badgers, you need worthless factiods |
| 17:08.47 | abrotman | Frem: did you answer ledet? |
| 17:08.47 | badgers | i don't know, EdibleText |
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| 17:09.10 | Frem | oh, sry, i didn't see that. yes, I am using GDM. |
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| 17:09.22 | abrotman | Frem: tell him .. |
| 17:09.23 | ledet | Frem: then you cant use .xinitrc for squat |
| 17:09.28 | abrotman | see .. he knows |
| 17:09.33 | ledet | :) |
| 17:09.42 | dob | i have some packages from backports.org on woody, when sarge will become stable what will happen to this packages ? i have to remove them before to upgrade to sarge, or they will be substituted automatically ? |
| 17:09.48 | ledet | abrotman: .xinitrc is a startx thing |
| 17:09.51 | sussudio | !irritate EdibleText |
| 17:09.52 | badgers | $1: Y iz debain so old? who uses dvd hello? |
| 17:10.03 | abrotman | ledet: dunno .. i don't use startx . or .xinitrc :) |
| 17:10.14 | abrotman | sussudio: he's broken |
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| 17:10.22 | thingfish | heh |
| 17:10.22 | supaman | hi, I have a problem with the wnpp-alert script, it gives me "sed: -e expression #1, char 100: Unknown command: ``T''" ... any ideas what could be wrong there? |
| 17:10.22 | Frem | ledet: is there some other way to autostart programs then? |
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| 17:10.24 | ledet | abrotman: that comment was actually for Frem anyway :) |
| 17:10.28 | abrotman | ledet: i know |
| 17:10.30 | ledet | Frem: yes |
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| 17:10.42 | EdibleText | !punish badgers for being broken |
| 17:10.47 | ledet | Frem: i recommend that you get your windowmanager to do that for you |
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| 17:11.06 | Frem | ledet: openbox? are you serious? |
| 17:11.11 | EdibleText | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.32 | MrMr | where do i find my .profile - file? |
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| 17:11.49 | ledet | Frem: openbox probably has some sort of Rootcommand just like fluxbox and blackbox do |
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| 17:12.16 | rick-- | hi.. |
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| 17:12.21 | ledet | Frem: i dont use openbox so i cant say for sure |
| 17:12.30 | rick-- | i did apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 17:12.42 | rick-- | but.. when i access any php site, it asks me to dl |
| 17:12.44 | ledet | rick--: good for you :) |
| 17:12.46 | rick-- | any idea ? |
| 17:12.51 | ledet | rick--: yes |
| 17:12.52 | abrotman | MrMr: ~/.bash_profile ? |
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| 17:13.03 | rick-- | ledet what else needed ? |
| 17:13.06 | ledet | rick--: did you tell apache to use mod_php for .php files? |
| 17:13.12 | gcbirzan | rick--: Associating .php files with mod_php. |
| 17:13.27 | MrMr | abrotman> well im a complete linux noob, and im trying to install lirq |
| 17:13.30 | rick-- | in the httpd.conf rite |
| 17:13.41 | MrMr | i need to install qt librariews, and they tell me to edit my .profile file |
| 17:13.41 | gcbirzan | There is no rite involved. |
| 17:13.43 | ledet | rick--: right |
| 17:14.20 | gcbirzan | Sacrificing goats is only needed to get Java to work. |
| 17:14.34 | rick-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.37 | rick-- | correct ? |
| 17:14.38 | Frem | ledet: ok, thanks for your help |
| 17:14.43 | gcbirzan | rick--: That would be it, yes. |
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| 17:14.56 | mohohaha | help my apache2 problem: after enable a virtual host, the real host doesn't go the dir anymore. should i make them all virtual? |
| 17:14.56 | rick-- | it still prompts me |
| 17:14.57 | ricky_clarkson | gcbirzan: Java works fine for people who can read. |
| 17:14.58 | ledet | Frem: you got it working? |
| 17:15.09 | ledet | ricky_clarkson: read? who here can read? |
| 17:15.30 | gcbirzan | ricky_clarkson: Blasphemy! |
| 17:15.31 | JakeX | Hey guys.. I wanted to ask what rls I should download for an AMD 64 based cpu? if there is a 64 bit debian rls? |
| 17:15.34 | ledet | mohohaha: yes |
| 17:15.45 | EdibleText | ricky_clarkson, sacrificing goats is a great way to relax |
| 17:15.49 | euth__ | dvs: that did it, thanks. |
| 17:15.55 | Frem | ledet: no, I discovered that if openbox has one, it's completely undocumented. I think I'm just gonna make a shell script and run it manually every time I login. :-P |
| 17:15.56 | mohohaha | i hope it won't cause me any problem |
| 17:15.58 | EdibleText | ricky_clarkson, which could help you read better |
| 17:16.01 | ledet | JakeX: rls? |
| 17:16.07 | JakeX | rls = release |
| 17:16.08 | JakeX | :P |
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| 17:16.09 | thingfish | anyone in here speak japanese? |
| 17:16.29 | mohohaha | cumbawa |
| 17:16.31 | thingfish | I want to know if there are nasal sounds in japanese. |
| 17:16.35 | MrMr | nihongoga skoch wakadimas |
| 17:16.37 | mohohaha | wadashiwa kunichiwa |
| 17:16.38 | sussudio | thingfish: how's that? |
| 17:16.42 | rick-- | gcbirzan : it still asks me to dl the php... any idea ? |
| 17:16.45 | morbias | baka! |
| 17:16.48 | mohohaha | sayonara |
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| 17:16.53 | elnovato | are you balu? |
| 17:16.54 | mohohaha | honda toshiba |
| 17:16.59 | morbias | lol |
| 17:16.59 | EdibleText | banjo-wa doko deska? |
| 17:17.03 | thingfish | sussudio: wow! |
| 17:17.17 | JakeX | i thought this was a debian irc room not jap baka talk :D |
| 17:17.18 | JakeX | hehe |
| 17:17.20 | morbias | I've just installed my cm7838 based 5.1 card, got it working with alsa, but i only get stereo (front speakers) .. any idea how i can fix that? |
| 17:17.27 | mohohaha | sashimi sushi judo desu |
| 17:17.31 | thingfish | I've got to learn japanese some day. it's just too cool. |
| 17:17.44 | MrMr | ... anyone can help me find my .profile file so i can edit environment variables? |
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| 17:17.51 | toresbe | thingfish: hai, sou da na :P |
| 17:17.53 | JakeX | anyways.. can anyone help me with what install pkg i should use for an AMD 64?? |
| 17:17.55 | mohohaha | i can't stop speaking japanese |
| 17:17.57 | JakeX | please.. |
| 17:18.06 | caphuso | MrMr: ls ~/.*profile |
| 17:18.12 | runa | mohohaha: um? |
| 17:18.12 | elnovato | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.17 | morbias | JakeX: isn't thans answered somewhere on debian.org :-/ |
| 17:18.18 | toresbe | mohohaha: Well, to stop speakingg japanese, one has to start |
| 17:18.27 | mohohaha | hentai deska |
| 17:18.31 | ledet | Frem: you _could_ also make a .Xsession script |
| 17:18.32 | MrMr | caphuso, why the tilde? |
| 17:18.32 | euth__ | mohohaha: anata no nihongo ha, warui desu yo. |
| 17:18.37 | mohohaha | hentai kawaii |
| 17:18.41 | EdibleText | mohohaha, homedir |
| 17:18.42 | sussudio | domo origato, mr roboto! |
| 17:18.47 | caphuso | MrMr: because you want to look in your homedir |
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| 17:19.04 | toresbe | mohohaha: You just named two foods, a martial art, and a grammatic particle. |
| 17:19.13 | Frem | ledet: ok, I'll google that. |
| 17:19.23 | MrMr | caphuso, ok thanx :) |
| 17:19.24 | toresbe | euth__: "warui" da nan desu ka? |
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| 17:19.55 | mohohaha | people think i look like japanese |
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| 17:20.05 | FieldySnuts | weirdos |
| 17:20.12 | toresbe | mohohaha: WAIIi - Britney spears wa kawaiii desu nee!!! ^__^ |
| 17:20.21 | morbias | JakeX: http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/index.html |
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| 17:20.35 | morbias | JakeX: i typed 'amd 64' on debian.org's search page |
| 17:20.39 | morbias | JakeX: do NOT pm me again |
| 17:20.49 | morbias | JakeX: read the channel rules |
| 17:21.02 | weasel | or learn about www.google.com |
| 17:21.06 | euth__ | toresbe: eigo de: "bad" desu. :-) |
| 17:21.10 | JakeX | morbias: k.. sorry |
| 17:21.15 | rick-- | gcbirzan : erm.. one thing... i dont see the LoadModule for the php in modules.conf |
| 17:21.16 | mohohaha | hentai hentai hentai |
| 17:21.18 | FieldySnuts | damn, no ravenbird or dpkg |
| 17:21.34 | sussudio | !do FieldySnuts |
| 17:21.35 | toresbe | euth__: Sou ka :) |
| 17:21.37 | mohohaha | how do you say fuck you in japanese |
| 17:21.38 | Blitx | Yo mamma |
| 17:21.53 | toresbe | mohohaha: you say "fuck you in japanese" |
| 17:21.54 | Blitx | Yo mamma |
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| 17:22.00 | toresbe | mohohaha: it's a silly thing to say |
| 17:22.01 | EdibleText | I once went to effnet and asked to PM someone, and they were astonshied by the show of curtesy |
| 17:22.01 | FieldySnuts | why's it named badgers? |
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| 17:22.03 | ledet | Frem: reading "man xdm" is enough... no reason to google anything :) |
| 17:22.07 | sussudio | why not? |
| 17:22.14 | FieldySnuts | irritating? |
| 17:22.15 | morbias | EdibleText: what is this 'ask' ? |
| 17:22.18 | euth__ | mohohaha: anyway, the english would be understood just fine. |
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| 17:22.26 | mohohaha | how do you say "fuck" in japanese |
| 17:22.30 | FieldySnuts | who gives a shit |
| 17:22.35 | thingfish | maybe the japanese are too polite to have an expression for f*ck you. |
| 17:22.37 | sussudio | !aolify mohohaha |
| 17:22.42 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 17:22.44 | toresbe | thingfish: Yeah, right :P |
| 17:22.46 | zinx | mohohaha: same way you say it in english. |
| 17:22.52 | FieldySnuts | !blaireau mohohaha |
| 17:22.54 | badgers | ENOUGH! |
| 17:22.54 | toresbe | Well, "kuzo" is close, means shit |
| 17:22.55 | zinx | mohohaha: it's become a universal word, pretty much |
| 17:23.03 | ricky_clarkson | zinx: Like OK? |
| 17:23.04 | mohohaha | i don't think so, i think they have special pronounciation for that word |
| 17:23.05 | FieldySnuts | is that really dpkg? or a wanna be? the real dpkg has me ignored |
| 17:23.06 | EdibleText | they didnt even have a 'thank you' until the portugues introduced it to them |
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| 17:23.21 | FieldySnuts | would the real dpkg please stand up? please stand up.. |
| 17:23.27 | ricky_clarkson | EdibleText: The Italians don't use their version of "please" often. |
| 17:23.28 | mohohaha | but how do you say "you" |
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| 17:23.31 | sussudio | !lose FieldySnuts |
| 17:23.32 | badgers | FieldySnuts: You Lose. |
| 17:23.33 | euth__ | EdibleText: not true |
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| 17:23.36 | elnovato | tom cruise is japanese, right? |
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| 17:23.41 | toresbe | euth__: #nihongo is a popular channel on freenode for nihongo conversation :) |
| 17:23.44 | toresbe | elnovato: Yes |
| 17:23.46 | mnemo | i'm lookin for a console program that prints disk load status, sort of like top does for the CPU. is there such a thing? |
| 17:23.46 | FieldySnuts | oh god it;s that troll elnovato again |
| 17:23.48 | ricky_clarkson | mohohaha: Say "Nagasaki" and laugh a lot. |
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| 17:23.52 | euth__ | mohohaha: anata |
| 17:23.58 | FieldySnuts | ricky_clarkson: heh. bad. |
| 17:24.02 | EdibleText | euth__, just repeating an urban legend... what is the real story |
| 17:24.04 | thingfish | origato=thank you? |
| 17:24.07 | MrMr | damn i dont get how to edit this bash_profile .... |
| 17:24.08 | mohohaha | you fcking lie to me, "saki" is a name of wine |
| 17:24.16 | FieldySnuts | !irritate mohohaha |
| 17:24.17 | mohohaha | ! |
| 17:24.18 | badgers | $1: Y iz debain so old? who uses dvd thx |
| 17:24.20 | caphuso | MrMr: with a text editor |
| 17:24.23 | FieldySnuts | $1? ookay |
| 17:24.27 | toresbe | mohohaha: that's sake, you retard |
| 17:24.35 | toresbe | !punch mohohaha |
| 17:24.47 | FieldySnuts | badgers: literal irritate |
| 17:24.48 | euth__ | depending on politeness: arigato, doumo arigato, doumo arigato gozaimasu |
| 17:24.48 | badgers | FieldySnuts: i don't know |
| 17:24.48 | jetscreamer | hey. i'm reading the nfs howto on tldp. it mentions nfs-utils. it doesn't seem to be apt-gettable. is this deprecated and now in some other package? |
| 17:24.56 | FieldySnuts | anyway. later |
| 17:24.57 | MrMr | caphuso, allrigt, i'll do that then. I'll try ;) |
| 17:25.01 | ricky_clarkson | mohohaha: you is teh off-topic0r |
| 17:25.07 | mohohaha | oh for god's saki |
| 17:25.12 | ricky_clarkson | !ffs |
| 17:25.12 | ideafix | clamav reports ÿOversized.Zip FOUND is this something to worry about ? |
| 17:25.12 | badgers | ffs is probably for fuck's sake, or for fine's sake. UCB's Fast File System, or for fearl's sake, or forgetfearl syndrome, or for Fooz' sake |
| 17:25.15 | FieldySnuts | my word, is it sunday? |
| 17:25.28 | FieldySnuts | ideafix: what's found? it'll say what's found not just FOUND |
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| 17:25.31 | ricky_clarkson | FieldySnuts: Only in Never Never Land. |
| 17:25.34 | toresbe | mohohaha: The most common, casual thank you is "kuzo shite shinezo" |
| 17:25.36 | guitaro | mnemo: use df |
| 17:25.41 | jetscreamer | !nfs-utils |
| 17:25.46 | elnovato | how tastes the sake? |
| 17:25.48 | thingfish | euth_ ah, I see. If it came from portuguese, that makes sense, because it's very close to "obrigado", portuguese for "thank you". |
| 17:25.49 | toresbe | mohohaha: It's polite, yet casual. |
| 17:25.51 | jetscreamer | df -h |
| 17:25.57 | morbias | warm sake is awesome ^.^ |
| 17:26.03 | mohohaha | "shite" means shit |
| 17:26.06 | jetscreamer | !nfsutils |
| 17:26.13 | thingfish | yes it is |
| 17:26.17 | ideafix | FieldySnuts pr0n.zip |
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| 17:26.22 | jetscreamer | !find nfsutils |
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| 17:26.23 | toresbe | mohohaha: in england, yes, in japan no |
| 17:26.23 | mohohaha | stop teaching me bad words |
| 17:26.24 | elnovato | ill like to learn japanese just to yiell to people, |
| 17:26.35 | badgers | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'nfsutils' returned no results. |
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| 17:26.47 | jetscreamer | !find nfs-utils |
| 17:26.59 | badgers | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'nfs-utils' returned no results. |
| 17:27.14 | jetscreamer | !nfs |
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| 17:27.23 | morbias | so, nobody got an idea of how to get this lousy cmi 5.1 card to pump out anything other than stereo ? |
| 17:27.25 | elnovato | but to learn an european lang one need to learn 4000 words wich any fool can , but japanese one need to learn 12000 words to speak like a tennager |
| 17:27.26 | EdibleText | elnovato, you dont need to learn a different language to communicate 'fuck off' |
| 17:27.45 | caphuso | jetscreamer: you're not in #debian for the first time, right? |
| 17:27.51 | LarsAC | what means "Jan 27 18:26:03 vdr kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address 6, error -110" |
| 17:27.52 | mohohaha | i always see japanese movie with a girl saying "yamate yamate" |
| 17:27.52 | LarsAC | ? |
| 17:27.52 | elnovato | EdibleText: its extremily humiliating yiell at japanese |
| 17:28.10 | jetscreamer | all right who the fuck killed dpkg |
| 17:28.21 | jetscreamer | caphuso, yes this is my first time, i'm a n00b |
| 17:28.24 | morbias | yamate/yameru means stop, i think. |
| 17:28.38 | thingfish | aww, poor dpkg |
| 17:28.38 | mnemo | guitaro: i dont want to know how much space there is left on the disk, I want the actual load... you know like how many files are beeing loaded per second, or megs per second etc.. |
| 17:28.38 | mohohaha | no way, it means "fck me hard" |
| 17:28.40 | morbias | yamete^ or however you spell it. |
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| 17:29.03 | caphuso | jetscreamer: alright... then now is a good time about learning to /msg the bots |
| 17:29.11 | ricky_clarkson | Who cares how you spell it in English, it's Japanese characters. |
| 17:29.27 | jetscreamer | what is that japanese porn where the woman gets like 50 billions shots of cum from 50 billion different guys? |
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| 17:29.40 | jaybuffet | anyone here run a jabber server? |
| 17:29.47 | abrotman | jaybuffet: #jabber |
| 17:30.03 | caphuso | jetscreamer: disgusting? |
| 17:30.13 | jetscreamer | there's a name for it though |
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| 17:30.23 | morbias | ... |
| 17:30.26 | jaybuffet | well i kinda had a question relating to debian + jabber |
| 17:30.27 | sussudio | mattybats: #knoppix |
| 17:30.49 | caphuso | sussudio: you don't know if he actually has a knoppix question |
| 17:30.54 | caphuso | (or she) |
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| 17:31.09 | samuel | any way to alter a pdf in linux? |
| 17:31.13 | sussudio | caphuso: mattybats is ~knoppix@c-24-21-198-101.client.comcast.net * Knoppix User |
| 17:31.25 | jetscreamer | sussudio, #kanotix is also default user knoppix |
| 17:31.36 | jasz | samuel: rm -rf *.pdf |
| 17:31.37 | samuel | i printed a doc a long time ago to pdf, but i want to alter it now and dont have the original |
| 17:31.37 | sussudio | jetscreamer: and? |
| 17:31.51 | samuel | jasz, hahahaha |
| 17:31.53 | jetscreamer | so maybe it shoulda been #kanotix not #knoppix |
| 17:31.56 | caphuso | sussudio: so? i've been here as "caphuso!~knoppix@..." |
| 17:31.57 | jetscreamer | :P |
| 17:32.03 | samuel | jasz, like chown .* ??? |
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| 17:32.30 | EdibleText | samuel, pdftotext |
| 17:32.33 | Raf256 | hi |
| 17:32.34 | samuel | jasz, took me a while to fix that... |
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| 17:32.45 | samuel | EdibleText, thanks |
| 17:32.52 | Raf256 | month ago I installed Ubuntus Xorg. after a while I almost clean my system up |
| 17:32.54 | morbias | jetscreamer: it's probably called 'jetscreamer's okaa-chan'. |
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| 17:33.17 | jetscreamer | i don't think it's called that... :o |
| 17:33.37 | heya | someone knows one graphic editor for debian for write programs in C with highlight like Kwrite ? |
| 17:33.38 | morbias | why so sure? |
| 17:33.41 | Raf256 | only xlibmesa-gl is broken... I can not apt-get install xlibmesa-gl for XFree, since dpkg wants to install 6.8.1 version (from Xorg)... how to tell dpkg to forget about xlibmesa-gl and clean reinstall it? |
| 17:33.55 | EdibleText | jetscreamer, balaclava |
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| 17:34.12 | caphuso | heya: kate? |
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| 17:34.48 | heya | caphuso: needs download all kde ? |
| 17:35.04 | EdibleText | heya, vim doest syntext highlighting |
| 17:35.09 | EdibleText | does even |
| 17:35.11 | jetscreamer | heya gedit does that also |
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| 17:35.22 | pmcdonnell | I'm having trouble starting the X server. I run startx or gdm, and it complains that it cannot open /dev/psaux and /dev/input/mice. What might cause this? |
| 17:35.24 | jetscreamer | nedit |
| 17:35.28 | jetscreamer | cooledit |
| 17:35.29 | EdibleText | emacs does everything |
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| 17:35.40 | pmcdonnell | This happens following a kernel upgrade to 2.6.8 |
| 17:35.41 | heya | EdibleText: emacs is terrible hehe :) |
| 17:35.46 | caphuso | heya: you need the basic KDE stuff |
| 17:36.09 | EdibleText | heya, thats why I chose vim |
| 17:36.11 | samuel | EdibleText, thanks, that did the trick |
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| 17:36.24 | jetscreamer | pmcdonnell, usually it's you need to add psmouse or mousedev to /etc/modules... modprobe psmouse |
| 17:36.33 | pmcdonnell | jetscreamer ok, let me try... |
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| 17:36.53 | jetscreamer | wish somebody would fix that |
| 17:37.00 | pusakat | !maint localization-config |
| 17:37.05 | pmcdonnell | jetscreamer I modprobed psmouse, but startx still won't start |
| 17:37.08 | badgers | localization-config: Konstantinos Margaritis <markos@debian.org> |
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| 17:37.15 | jetscreamer | try the mousedev one also |
| 17:37.40 | jetscreamer | pmcdonnell, what was your previous kernel |
| 17:37.48 | pmcdonnell | jetscreamer 2.4.24 |
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| 17:38.54 | martin_ | f |
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| 17:39.10 | ricky_clarkson | u |
| 17:39.11 | martin_ | my .bashrc gives me errors on every line, but when I source it as root theres no problems. Any ideas? |
| 17:39.18 | pmcdonnell | jetscreamer thanks that worked |
| 17:39.25 | jetscreamer | ah ok |
| 17:39.28 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: Describe the errors. |
| 17:39.34 | jetscreamer | add that to /etc/modules for it to load on boot |
| 17:39.41 | martin_ | command not found |
| 17:39.49 | nonix4 | Hmm... cc:ing your own bug reports w/ the -closed suffix @bugs was the right thing to do when you notice a fix (even in stable) for an old bug you happened to report 5+ years ago, right? |
| 17:39.50 | martin_ | octal number out of range |
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| 17:40.30 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: What command is not found? |
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| 17:40.37 | cadu | anyone knows how to configure liveice ? |
| 17:40.46 | assistant | hello, I am a free software enthusiast, but a lot of fillable office forms we have are in pdf format, can anyone recommend a good open format for fillable office forms? |
| 17:41.16 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: Well put echo "Before command XX gets run" kind of debug lines in the .bashrc and run it again, and you should see at what stage the error occurs. |
| 17:41.21 | jetscreamer | .doc as in openoffice or abiwork or kwrite ? |
| 17:41.26 | supaman | assistant: OpenOffice ?? |
| 17:41.27 | jetscreamer | just a guess not positive |
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| 17:41.41 | xenoduck | PDF is an open standard. |
| 17:41.42 | jetscreamer | s/abiwork/abiword/ |
| 17:41.47 | cadu | pdf rules |
| 17:41.50 | jetscreamer | pdf is also proprietary |
| 17:41.57 | jetscreamer | pdf may bite me |
| 17:42.00 | ricky_clarkson | Open and proprietary? |
| 17:42.05 | xenoduck | Uh, i guess. |
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| 17:42.11 | EdibleText | my head asplode |
| 17:42.20 | xenoduck | EdibleText: hee-hee |
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| 17:42.30 | EdibleText | !pdf |
| 17:42.31 | ricky_clarkson | Heh. He said 'asp'. |
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| 17:42.45 | jetscreamer | pdf is like ungainly also, imo |
| 17:42.49 | EdibleText | !punch badgers |
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| 17:42.50 | supaman | so is pdf open but nonfree? |
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| 17:42.58 | Delph | supaman: its open to read; not to write. |
| 17:43.04 | supaman | free as in the GNU sense |
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| 17:43.15 | xenoduck | PDF is open to both read and write. |
| 17:43.17 | bluefox83 | anyone here know anything about f-prot? |
| 17:43.21 | martin_ | the only line left in my .bashrc now is alias ls='ls --classify' |
| 17:43.25 | r3v | bluefox83: i use it |
| 17:43.28 | Delph | its not free, however. |
| 17:43.32 | jetscreamer | it's a virus scanner, i know this. and that's all. |
| 17:43.44 | bluefox83 | r3v: how do you get it to actually get rid of viruses on a windows partition? |
| 17:43.44 | EdibleText | free as in libré? |
| 17:43.46 | cadu | shittyold virus scanner |
| 17:43.55 | martin_ | when i try using ls after sourcing bashrc i get "unrecognised option --classify" |
| 17:43.56 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: With the exact same quotes and spaces? |
| 17:44.01 | r3v | bluefox83: change the option from detect to clean |
| 17:44.04 | samuel | Delph, not to write? so cups has a deal with adobe? |
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| 17:44.25 | Delph | samuel: i'm sure there's something about writing PDF's that you can't do without licencing from adobe. |
| 17:44.27 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: Does your version of ls support --classify? |
| 17:44.32 | bluefox83 | r3v: I didn't see a clean option anywhere... |
| 17:44.34 | martin_ | this is the exact output: 's: unrecognised option `--classify |
| 17:44.44 | Delph | samuel: can cups write editable pdf's ? |
| 17:44.53 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: Looks like you missed the 'l' from 'ls'. |
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| 17:44.57 | martin_ | it does when I use ls --classify directly in the terminal |
| 17:44.57 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: /bin/ls --classify |
| 17:45.00 | laumi | hi |
| 17:45.04 | jetscreamer | martin_, there is ~/.bash_profile, and also /etc/bash.bashrc to examine... might help, i dunno. |
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| 17:45.13 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: which ls |
| 17:45.19 | ricky_clarkson | `which ls` |
| 17:45.29 | r3v | bluefox83: disinf |
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| 17:45.51 | martin_ | it does look like i\ve missed it, but in the file it's there alright. Is ' perhaps working as some sort of escape character? |
| 17:46.10 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: Are you using ' or `? |
| 17:46.17 | martin_ | ok i'll try bash profile instead |
| 17:46.18 | bluefox83 | r3v: i'm on a knoppix cd at the moment..how do i launch that disinf? |
| 17:46.18 | Delph | samuel: perhaps the basic PDF functions are freeforall, but not the more useful ones. |
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| 17:46.31 | r3v | bluefox83: that's an option to f-prot |
| 17:46.35 | EdibleText | martin_, its the one on under tilde |
| 17:46.43 | martin_ | ricky> the first one |
| 17:46.57 | r3v | bluefox83: f-prot -disinf / |
| 17:46.59 | elnovato | yay i was chossed to teach linux to tennagers |
| 17:47.06 | jetscreamer | i use the one under the " and it works |
| 17:47.10 | jetscreamer | ' not ` |
| 17:47.11 | ricky_clarkson | Ah, shit. |
| 17:47.17 | r3v | bluefox83: or you could 'man f-prot' and see all the options too |
| 17:47.27 | ricky_clarkson | There's no use talking about keyboard layouts :) |
| 17:47.29 | supaman | umm ... can anyone try to run the wnpp-alert script for me and see if they get any errors (allso see if the sed command in the script uses the T or t flag ... mine version uses the T flag and it gives an error) |
| 17:47.33 | ricky_clarkson | My ' is under a @ |
| 17:47.36 | jetscreamer | elnovato, at least it wasn't english you were CHOSEN to teach |
| 17:47.36 | Raf256 | how to echo some file without new lines? |
| 17:47.39 | assistant | pdf is free to save? |
| 17:47.40 | Raf256 | like cat but in one line |
| 17:47.54 | assistant | the acrobat reader will let you fill out the form and print it but not save it |
| 17:47.55 | Raf256 | cat -n thingy |
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| 17:48.00 | martin_ | ricky>that's the one i'm using |
| 17:48.04 | ricky_clarkson | Raf256: Use sed or tr to remove the newlines. |
| 17:48.08 | martin_ | ' |
| 17:48.08 | elnovato | jetscreamer: heh |
| 17:48.16 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 17:48.27 | eppie | hello anyone experience with watching tv on debian using an bttv driver? |
| 17:48.31 | CAiRO | what's the problem when wget quits with 'Bus error', this error message isn't very helpful |
| 17:48.42 | r3v | eppie: yeah... do it all the time |
| 17:48.52 | FieldySnuts | googling for wget "bus error" might be |
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| 17:49.05 | jetscreamer | the metro bus died? |
| 17:49.09 | EdibleText | CAiRO, Bus error - no driver |
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| 17:49.16 | eppie | r3v: i have a problem my card is well detected: |
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| 17:49.17 | EdibleText | CAiRO, jk |
| 17:49.19 | heya | nedit rulez ;) |
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| 17:49.20 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: Dunno, maybe you did alias ls='s' somewhere else. |
| 17:49.22 | heya | thanks :P |
| 17:49.31 | eppie | bttv0: using: Pinnacle PCTV Studio/Rave [card=39,insmod option] |
| 17:49.31 | eppie | bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80... found |
| 17:49.37 | eppie | but there's no signal |
| 17:49.37 | ricky_clarkson | martin_: Before the alias line in .bashrc, add another line: which ls |
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| 17:50.05 | r3v | eppie: on the right source or freq table or any other setting? |
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| 17:50.21 | eppie | r3v: sorry what do you mean? |
| 17:50.40 | r3v | eppie: mine has source 0 and 1, 0 = coax, 1 = RCA |
| 17:50.50 | daft | How can I grep on a line and so I get A but not AB |
| 17:50.58 | daft | Line end* |
| 17:51.01 | rdancer | what's this?: (apt-get says upon reinstall) E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on gzip |
| 17:51.05 | r3v | eppie: and you have it on NTSC or PAL |
| 17:51.12 | r3v | daft: grep " a " ? |
| 17:51.15 | eppie | r3v: where can i find that settings in my tv program? |
| 17:51.20 | Engywook | I installed debian in swedish, is there any easy way to convert everything to english? |
| 17:51.24 | LSorensen | daft: give an example of a line that should match and one that shouldn;t? |
| 17:51.27 | r3v | eppie: which viewer you using? |
| 17:51.38 | eppie | xawtv/tvtime |
| 17:51.40 | LSorensen | daft: perhaps grep 'A[^B]' will do. |
| 17:51.49 | rdancer | Engywook: export LC_ALL=en_US |
| 17:51.50 | bluefox83 | damnit i hate ntfs >.> |
| 17:51.50 | nonix4 | Engywook: I'd guess simply export LC_ALL=POSIX would do that |
| 17:52.01 | r3v | eppie: xawtv is hit "o" or right click on the screen |
| 17:52.16 | eppie | yes |
| 17:52.18 | bluefox83 | f-prot wont work on ntfs for some reason..can't access it |
| 17:52.21 | daft | A thank |
| 17:52.33 | nonix4 | Engywook: for more fine-tuning unset and/or reset LANG and all environment variables starting with LC_ |
| 17:52.38 | eppie | r3v: did that |
| 17:52.41 | r3v | bluefox83: yup... winblows NTFS sucks |
| 17:52.43 | EdibleText | bluefox83, does f-prot need write access? |
| 17:52.50 | rdancer | !tell Engywook about locales |
| 17:52.56 | EdibleText | bluefox83, perhaps ntfs is mounted ro |
| 17:53.03 | eppie | have set tv on pal and frequency table on europe |
| 17:53.04 | eppie | west |
| 17:53.11 | r3v | bluefox83: there is something to get knoppix full write to ntfs... but don't remember right now |
| 17:53.12 | eppie | didnt fixed the problem |
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| 17:53.20 | Engywook | ok, thanks a lot |
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| 17:53.50 | ideafix | hello |
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| 17:55.53 | ideafix | what do you think about the ubuntu project ? |
| 17:56.00 | r3v | ideafix: hate it |
| 17:56.12 | ideafix | why ? |
| 17:56.39 | r3v | ideafix: with about 6 different installs on 6 diff computers, none of them worked right |
| 17:56.43 | greycat | because end users install it and think they're using Debian, then they come *here* and bother *us* with questions we can't answer |
| 17:56.58 | jetscreamer | use kanotix if you're gonna use knoppix. it's more up to date and maintained actively. and it's called captive for ntfs btw. |
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| 17:57.25 | greycat | captive, as in the opposite of Free. |
| 17:57.53 | FieldySnuts | greycat: amen |
| 17:58.07 | FieldySnuts | we don't care about ubuntu (see topic), so please stop bringing it up |
| 17:58.08 | greycat | or zero CDs. |
| 17:58.15 | FieldySnuts | if we did we'd join an ubuntu channel |
| 17:58.16 | jetscreamer | 2 floppies |
| 17:58.19 | LesleyB | does it jetscreamer? how come there are 15 iso's in sarge then? |
| 17:58.21 | r3v | LesleyB: net install is 6 megs for debian... that's lots smaller |
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| 17:58.33 | jetscreamer | LesleyB, you only need one. usally #1 is enough. |
| 17:58.38 | greycat | r3v: but the standard net install image for sarge is 110 MB or so |
| 17:58.46 | jetscreamer | LesleyB, many arch. |
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| 17:58.54 | greycat | jetscreamer: no, it's 15 *per arch* |
| 17:58.56 | jetscreamer | solaris, ppc.... |
| 17:58.57 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 17:59.02 | jetscreamer | i didn't know that |
| 17:59.02 | r3v | greycat: there is a buisness card one isn't there? |
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| 17:59.05 | greycat | r3v: yes |
| 17:59.11 | ideafix | well ubuntu came up because debian isnt releasing any new versions so they claim ! |
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| 17:59.16 | r3v | greycat: then that's 40 |
| 17:59.26 | greycat | r3v: that sounds about right. |
| 17:59.30 | jetscreamer | the business is 56m the net is 110m iirc, the difference is te net hase base |
| 17:59.40 | hazzern | FieldySnuts open your mind a little after all its about open thinking :) |
| 17:59.53 | r3v | uht oh.... prof walking around... gotta go |
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| 18:00.01 | jetscreamer | s/te net hase/the net has/ |
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| 18:00.05 | bluefox83 | crap, the reason i can |
| 18:00.19 | bluefox83 | t get into it is cus it's mounted read-only :( |
| 18:00.22 | ricky_clarkson | !typing |
| 18:00.22 | Xenguy | hehe - stealth IRC'ers ;-) |
| 18:01.01 | ideafix | some ppl just cant get enough ircing |
| 18:01.07 | ideafix | heh |
| 18:01.23 | nvz | !ppl |
| 18:01.23 | badgers | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many? |
| 18:02.00 | ideafix | i meant pupils |
| 18:02.01 | sref | anybody knows how to make debian use the correct fonts for arabic and hebrew encodings ? |
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| 18:02.30 | thenuke | "starting hotplug systems input.. input failed" I wonder what that might be? |
| 18:03.07 | jetscreamer | you need to compile hotplug support in your kernel, or load the module? |
| 18:03.10 | jetscreamer | just a guess. |
| 18:03.12 | sref | I bveleive I installed all the arabic and hebrew true type fonts, but still I get ugly squares |
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| 18:03.26 | takatumi | jetscreamer: the biz card is ~40MB, today's is 34MB (fyi) |
| 18:03.31 | LesleyB | in what package sref? |
| 18:03.31 | ideafix | jetscreamer: is it best practice to compile in kernel or use a module ? |
| 18:03.34 | hazzern | thenuke sounds like some plug and play thing :) |
| 18:03.37 | LesleyB | !people |
| 18:03.37 | badgers | people are stupid |
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| 18:04.11 | sref | LesleyB: mozilla is an exmple |
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| 18:04.21 | bluefox83 | how do i unmount an fs? |
| 18:04.46 | hazzern | umount /mnt/fsnamehere |
| 18:04.47 | sref | LesleyB: also when I use text editor |
| 18:05.05 | hazzern | bluefox83 umount /mnt/fsnamehere |
| 18:05.18 | ideafix | is it best practice to compile in kernel or use a module ? |
| 18:05.20 | hazzern | something like |
| 18:05.35 | hazzern | i mean symbolic name here :) |
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| 18:05.38 | hazzern | sorry |
| 18:05.38 | hazzern | :) |
| 18:05.48 | hazzern | umount /mnt/namehere :) |
| 18:06.01 | ideafix | someone anser pls |
| 18:06.05 | rdancer | iff a package foo is installed test -e /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.list is true, correct? |
| 18:06.08 | jetscreamer | sref, the ugly squares have numbers in them. you can correlate the numbers using some app "unicode character map" |
| 18:06.20 | bluefox83 | dangit, no matter what options i use it wont mount my ntfs drive as read/write |
| 18:06.23 | jetscreamer | app like... |
| 18:06.34 | jetscreamer | !ntfs-write |
| 18:06.36 | LesleyB | well, my only experience of fonts is under SuSE; there's the X-Windows system that needs to have the fonts for X stuff; emacs seems to need it's own fonts and then if you are using LaTeX you need fonts there too |
| 18:06.45 | LesleyB | doesn't seem to me there's an easy answer |
| 18:06.45 | jetscreamer | !read-ntfs |
| 18:06.46 | badgers | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,users,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 18:06.47 | sref | jetscreamer: but that will still make them look ugly :) |
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| 18:06.50 | ideafix | hum too many bots talking to each other i guess ! |
| 18:06.51 | jetscreamer | there ya go |
| 18:06.56 | rdancer | sref, jetscreamer grep <uglynumber> /usr/share/unidata/UnicodeData* would do |
| 18:06.57 | LesleyB | but then there might be under dbian installs |
| 18:07.00 | jetscreamer | man fmask bluefox83 |
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| 18:07.13 | debofc | can anyone tell me what deb package i have to download to be able to use the command dig? |
| 18:07.41 | bluefox83 | doesn't work jetscreamer am on a knoppix cd at the moment... |
| 18:07.48 | rdancer | !tell debofc about search |
| 18:07.56 | jetscreamer | debofc, apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && man apt-file |
| 18:07.57 | bluefox83 | !fmask |
| 18:08.02 | Xenguy | debofc: dnsutils |
| 18:08.08 | jetscreamer | bluefox83, man fmask and dmask |
| 18:08.12 | jetscreamer | not bot it |
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| 18:08.27 | bluefox83 | jetscreamer: doesn't work in knoppix :( |
| 18:08.44 | jetscreamer | bluefox83, sure it does, if you edit the fstab and remount it |
| 18:08.46 | ideafix | ask that in #knoppix |
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| 18:09.05 | LesleyB | <g> |
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| 18:09.34 | pixelmonkey | if I'm running a nameserver and nslookup uac-ny.org ns1.loutro.com resolves properly, what could be a reason that nslookup uac-ny.org without passing my name server explicitly DOESN'T resolve? |
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| 18:09.49 | rdancer | does every installed package has a /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.list ? |
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| 18:10.10 | EdibleText | !test |
| 18:10.10 | badgers | No, edibletext, you're not online any more. |
| 18:10.19 | rdancer | in other words, can be a package installed without /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.list being present? |
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| 18:10.56 | hazzern | pixelmonkey i'm haveing a similar problem it pings if i use the ip directly but it doesnt resolve name :( |
| 18:11.03 | sref | is there any configuration files that I can use to tell X to use the correct font instead of showing the squares? |
| 18:11.12 | Nic | hi |
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| 18:11.21 | supaman | rdancer: I dont know, but I guess that the documentation knows, have a look at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ |
| 18:11.34 | bluefox83 | ok i added an entry into fstab, now what? |
| 18:11.44 | hazzern | reboot and it should work :) |
| 18:11.55 | hazzern | bluefox83 reboot :) |
| 18:11.58 | Nic | I'm trying to launch a game on a second X session, but I get : 6036 X: client 1 rejected from local host |
| 18:12.05 | bluefox83 | i'm in knoppix, it'd just wipe the /etc/fstab entry >.> |
| 18:12.07 | hazzern | or pass those paramaters on the command line :) |
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| 18:12.29 | bluefox83 | i should never have to rebootot unless booting into a new kernel anyways |
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| 18:12.33 | hazzern | thanks pixelmonkey |
| 18:12.34 | bluefox83 | *reboot |
| 18:12.36 | debofc | thanks |
| 18:12.42 | Nic | what's the correct way to allow it ? |
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| 18:13.02 | hazzern | just type it on the command line and see then |
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| 18:13.29 | hazzern | should work |
| 18:13.34 | EdibleText | bluefox83, if you edited fstab you should beable to mount it |
| 18:13.42 | hazzern | if it doesnt work on the command line it wont work in fstab |
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| 18:14.03 | takatumi | bluefox83: why are you in knoppix? |
| 18:14.18 | bluefox83 | i'm trying to get rid of the viruses on this laptop |
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| 18:14.24 | bluefox83 | it's not my laptop ..> |
| 18:14.28 | bluefox83 | >.> |
| 18:14.50 | takatumi | bluefox83: is it a pirated version of winbloze? |
| 18:14.51 | zinx | try clamav? |
| 18:15.03 | bluefox83 | takatumi: nope, cam ewiht the lappy |
| 18:15.07 | bluefox83 | ]*came with |
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| 18:15.11 | Coff | hi |
| 18:15.19 | bluefox83 | sorry laptop keyboard not easy to type on >.> |
| 18:15.20 | takatumi | bluefox83: called micnosoft for support? |
| 18:15.22 | Coff | hi , On debian how can i install only a determined package unstable ??? i need perl 5.8 but on stable version there is no such version ... |
| 18:15.33 | bluefox83 | takatumi: it's too old >.> |
| 18:15.39 | dondelelcaro | Coff: you get a backport of it |
| 18:15.44 | luite | bluefox83: if you want to remove the viruses from an ntfs partition it is probably a safer bet to run some av program from the windows rescue console |
| 18:15.45 | caphuso | Coff: you dont, especially not with perl |
| 18:16.10 | dondelelcaro | Coff: although, why you think you need 5.8 is beyond me. |
| 18:16.13 | Nic | I guess the answer is in man xauth. but I don't understand anything :( |
| 18:16.13 | EdibleText | bluefox83, grab the free for non-comercial use version of AVG |
| 18:16.15 | takatumi | bluefox83: so you are trying to get rid of viruses from a windows machine, booted off a knoppix CD and you're in #debian |
| 18:16.26 | bluefox83 | luite: i ran norton and it still has viruses..i'd rather try this route..if it doesn't work i'll simply format and reinstall |
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| 18:16.31 | Lee__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:17.10 | Lee__ | or buy the Knoppix Hacks book from O'reilly press. It has a chapter on exactly this. |
| 18:17.21 | EdibleText | bluefox83, or you can get support in a windows channel. |
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| 18:17.50 | bluefox83 | yeah well the point of using linux is so i don't have to pay for garbage when i can get real software for free |
| 18:18.10 | Lee__ | bluefox83: than reformat your windows partition |
| 18:18.16 | Lee__ | with free software |
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| 18:18.31 | bluefox83 | i probably will tonight.. |
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| 18:19.07 | gishidesu | chanserv says to msg dpkg, but i then i get no such nick |
| 18:19.20 | takatumi | gishidesu: try badgers |
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| 18:20.08 | takatumi | gishidesu: now chanserv ain't lying |
| 18:20.20 | gishidesu | got it |
| 18:20.21 | EdibleText | bluefox83, getting rid of viruses in windows is easy.. edit the registry in 'safemode' and delete all suspicious *exe files modified after an arbitrary date.. unless its a win95 upgrade |
| 18:20.29 | gishidesu | thx |
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| 18:20.33 | Borgon | I just installed debian and am having problems with X-windows.. how can i run the configuration again? |
| 18:20.37 | EdibleText | s/and/also |
| 18:21.06 | EdibleText | bluefox83, if you query me ill give you the regkey to look in |
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| 18:22.11 | kaimis | hello |
| 18:22.29 | Borgon | Why is the kernel 2.2.20 and not 2.6.x? |
| 18:22.36 | kaimis | help mee please |
| 18:23.04 | nvz | Borgon: woody has 2.2.20 and 2.4.18, thats what you choose |
| 18:23.33 | wfq | hi, somebody know why I can to make ping to address ip but i can't to make it to your dns name? |
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| 18:23.58 | EdibleText | wfq, no name server |
| 18:23.59 | Borgon | nvz, i didnt see option for that =( |
| 18:24.13 | nvz | Borgon: thats because you didnt read the install guide |
| 18:24.17 | ricky_clarkson | Borgon: apt-get install kernel-image-whatever |
| 18:24.20 | nvz | Borgon: its before you even boot the installer |
| 18:24.35 | EdibleText | wfq, add one to /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:24.51 | gishidesu | how can i change the delay between nameservers |
| 18:24.55 | gishidesu | lets lay my #1 |
| 18:24.58 | gishidesu | is a vpn nameserver |
| 18:25.06 | gishidesu | but #2 is some "known good" one |
| 18:25.11 | gishidesu | but if the vpn is down |
| 18:25.13 | wfq | EdibleText: I just do it |
| 18:25.15 | gishidesu | i want it to jump to #2 more quickly |
| 18:25.18 | SlayerXP | !tell gishidesu about enter |
| 18:25.21 | Borgon | ok ok |
| 18:25.21 | Borgon | How about reconfiguring X ? i am getting weird vmware errors |
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| 18:25.25 | wfq | but not work |
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| 18:26.35 | EdibleText | wfq, can you ping the IP of 'nameserver <IP of nameserver' that you put in resolv.conf |
| 18:26.57 | norculf | o |
| 18:28.48 | EdibleText | gishidesu, man resolv.conf |
| 18:28.59 | EdibleText | gishidesu, there is an option for that |
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| 18:29.53 | gishidesu | yikes, thanks EdibleText |
| 18:31.37 | Nic | no idea about how running a program in a second X server ? |
| 18:31.55 | pack | man xnest |
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| 18:37.06 | TrollBoy | anyone available feel like helping me with setting up this proxy server? |
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| 18:37.30 | greycat | !ask |
| 18:37.30 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 18:37.32 | EdibleText | wow 5 minutes of silence |
| 18:37.36 | Flimzy | TrollBoy: Not unless you feel like asking a specific question. |
| 18:37.41 | TrollBoy | fair enough |
| 18:37.50 | TrollBoy | sorry last few chans I was in where dead |
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| 18:38.37 | TrollBoy | I've installed privoxy on my debian box, got it running, etc.. then I went to my windows box, entered in ip and port (8118) into the proxy server box, and viola.. I can't view any webpages. |
| 18:38.54 | TrollBoy | I was just wondering what I was doing wrong or if anyone had advice, or links to point me to |
| 18:39.03 | fflush | Therion: your name appeared on a linux magazine here in Brazil, you are getting famous |
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| 18:39.06 | Flimzy | what is the error? |
| 18:39.19 | TrollBoy | can not find server |
| 18:39.29 | Flimzy | that's from the proxy? |
| 18:39.34 | Flimzy | perhaps you don't ahve DNS configured properly |
| 18:39.46 | Flimzy | or you're trying to access a server that doesn't exist |
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| 18:39.58 | TrollBoy | the dns works, as does the server |
| 18:39.59 | greycat | or his Debian box isn't connected to the internet at all |
| 18:40.16 | orjan_ | TrollBoy: set privoxy to listen to your lan port, as defaulr it's only 127,0,0,1? |
| 18:40.23 | Nic | I don't know if it's a bug, or if some configuration files changed, but it doesn't work anymore |
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| 18:40.28 | TrollBoy | the internet comes in via a netgear router running nat and dhcp |
| 18:40.35 | Flimzy | Nic: What doesn't work any more? |
| 18:40.46 | TrollBoy | I installed debian(sarge) via netinst, so it does have internet connection |
| 18:40.48 | Nic | Flimzy: launching games on a second X server |
| 18:40.58 | Flimzy | TrollBoy: Is the privoxy server on the same LAN that you're on now? |
| 18:41.00 | TrollBoy | the windows box DOES have internet when I kill the proxy settings |
| 18:41.03 | TrollBoy | yes |
| 18:41.05 | TrollBoy | it is |
| 18:41.05 | doub | TrollBoy: you need to put the IP address, windoze box try to resolve the name not via DNS but NetBIOS |
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| 18:41.35 | orjan_ | TrollBoy: #7.4.1 in the user manual |
| 18:41.51 | TrollBoy | url orjan? |
| 18:42.03 | TrollBoy | he privoxy manual? |
| 18:42.10 | orjan_ | TrollBoy: yes |
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| 18:42.42 | doub | TrollBoy: or install samba on the same box and use its name as the proxy server |
| 18:43.04 | Flimzy | doub: that sounds like overkill |
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| 18:43.15 | EdibleText | doub, he should not have to do that |
| 18:43.22 | Flimzy | doub: Esp. since that's not the only way to get Windows to do NetBIOS resolution for that IP |
| 18:43.37 | Flimzy | doub: And when NetBIOS resolution is overkill anyway. |
| 18:43.38 | doub | Flimzy: quite so. but why the hell does windoze try to resolve the proxy name as NetBIOS in the first place? |
| 18:43.39 | Delph | why are you using NetBOIS anyway? |
| 18:43.50 | Flimzy | doub: Because it's told to? |
| 18:43.54 | Delph | s/OI/IO/ |
| 18:44.07 | Flimzy | doub: You can change the order of resolution in Windows (same as you can in *nix) |
| 18:44.35 | doub | Flimzy: the trouble is, it does not even try DNS. only netbios |
| 18:44.36 | Flimzy | doub: But even so, if it fails with NetBIOS, it should try DNS. |
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| 18:44.45 | EdibleText | doub, wrong |
| 18:44.52 | Flimzy | doub: Then DNS is misconfigured. |
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| 18:45.04 | EdibleText | doub, google.com is not resolved by netbios |
| 18:45.06 | Flimzy | doub: And installing Samba won't properly configure DNS on the Windows machine. |
| 18:45.08 | EdibleText | as an example |
| 18:45.57 | Delph | should we stop discussing how to fix windows here? |
| 18:46.00 | doub | i know all this. i just had the same problem yesterday, checked with ethereal : the *proxy* name is only checked through netbios. not urls or the like, the *proxy* |
| 18:46.27 | Flimzy | doub: My proxy in Windows is always looked up thru DNS. |
| 18:46.39 | doub | and no fallback on dns, just repeted netbios queries |
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| 18:47.06 | Xenguy | Delph: there has been a lot of d0ze talk happening the last few days it seems |
| 18:47.17 | doub | Flimzy: maybe it depends on the version |
| 18:47.42 | Flimzy | doub: So you should upgrade to a more recent version of IE then |
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| 18:47.55 | Flimzy | doub: or install Mozilla |
| 18:48.08 | Delph | that was less a 'should we' and more a 'why dont you' |
| 18:48.10 | Flimzy | doub: At any rate, stop telling ppl to install Samba to fix DNS resolution :P |
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| 18:48.43 | doub | Flimzy: i already have it on my linux boxes, IE is the only reason i bothered to install windows |
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| 18:49.04 | Xenguy | OK, so we ignore, until the ops get more rabid ;-) |
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| 18:49.49 | doub | Flimzy: and again, i know it's overkill to use samba. but the windows world is made of overkill, anyway |
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| 18:50.29 | pixelmonkey | What could be wrong DNS-wise here: if I try to resolve xgrav.com using my nameserver, ns1.loutro.com, then it resolves to its proper IP, 69.90.174.161... but if I try to resolve xgrav.com using any other nameserver, it cannot resolve |
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| 18:50.48 | valdyn | Engywook: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 18:50.48 | Flimzy | doub: Yeah, I guess you're right. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em and make everything overkill. Windows takes too much hard drive space to install, so I decided to buy an 18-wheeler instead of a 2-door sedan. |
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| 18:51.26 | aurel42 | pixelmonkey: ns[12].xgrav.com unreachable for the outside world? |
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| 18:52.04 | johnnyST | Can I use a dowsing rod to detect problems in debian? http://www.smithsonianmag.si.edu/smithsonian/issues96/jan96/images/dows_ef.jpg |
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| 18:52.21 | xenoduck | pixelmonkey: ns1.xgrav.com and ns2.xgrav.com are the DNS servers for xgrav.com. They're both unresponsive. Hence it doesn't work. |
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| 18:52.47 | aurel42 | isn't that what i said? |
| 18:52.51 | tarzeau | strange, i don't remember having subscribed to any ubuntu lists. |
| 18:52.52 | Pluk | anyone know what package the after command contains? |
| 18:52.53 | pixelmonkey | yep :-) |
| 18:52.58 | xenoduck | aurel42: Sorry. |
| 18:52.59 | tarzeau | does anyone else get spam from ubuntulinux guys? |
| 18:53.00 | caphuso | johnnyST: no, the electrical smog around computers prevents the rod from working |
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| 18:53.10 | aurel42 | pluk: dpkg -S bin/after ? |
| 18:53.17 | johnnyST | caphuso, oh.. |
| 18:53.39 | Pluk | aurel42, its not installed yet |
| 18:54.12 | aurel42 | pluk, lemme see if packagesearch is worth its money |
| 18:54.22 | DeathPrawn | I'm having trouble installing drm-kernel; I run "make -f Makefile.linux" in its source directory like the instructions say, but it gives me a bunch of "undeclared" errors |
| 18:54.26 | Xenguy | Pluk: use apt-file - that should work |
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| 18:54.42 | aurel42 | pluk: packages.debian.org has a search for files in packages, too |
| 18:54.44 | doub | Flimzy: i'll check that thing about dns resolution. but without a proxy, it works like a charm, so i bet DNS is properly set up |
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| 18:54.55 | Pluk | thx aurel42 lemme check that |
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| 18:55.51 | aurel42 | the 'packagesearch' tool finds two hits, among them 'afterstep', but fails to show what it actually matched on. |
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| 18:56.15 | aurel42 | apt-get remove packagesearch |
| 18:56.17 | aurel42 | ;) |
| 18:56.31 | Pluk | lol :) |
| 18:56.47 | Flimzy | doub: Don't check on my account... b/c 1) I don't really care. and 2) I'm sure if the problem does really exist that upgrading to a newer version of IE would fix it. |
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| 18:57.22 | strubbel | the woody snort setup for dialup is so ill |
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| 18:57.45 | strubbel | that really sucks |
| 18:57.57 | Pluk | darn |
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| 18:58.05 | Pluk | apt-file cant find it either |
| 18:58.07 | xst | When I do a "chroot <some path>" it prints "chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory". Why? I have indeed copied /bin to <somepath>/bin |
| 18:58.24 | Flimzy | xst: Because it cannot run bash? |
| 18:58.39 | Pluk | is there another command to have set a delay before another command is set |
| 18:58.56 | caphuso | Pluk: sleep 5 && othercommand |
| 18:58.58 | Flimzy | Pluk: sleep |
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| 18:58.59 | ricky_clarkson | xst: strace |
| 18:59.00 | strubbel | brw, does debian/rule build debian packages from debian sources? |
| 18:59.00 | xst | Flimzy: But /bin IS compied to <somepath>/bin... |
| 18:59.01 | aurel42 | xst: is <somepath>/bin/bash executable? does it have what it needs (eg. libraries)? |
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| 18:59.09 | Pluk | darnit ofcourse, thx! |
| 18:59.13 | strubbel | s/rusle/rules |
| 18:59.17 | strubbel | s/rusle/rules/ |
| 18:59.25 | aurel42 | xst: there's an easy way to set up chroot environments on debian, google for it |
| 18:59.26 | strubbel | damn |
| 18:59.35 | doub | xst: maybe you also need the libs (ldd /bin/bash will tell you which) |
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| 18:59.58 | strubbel | typing is hard somtimes |
| 19:00.05 | strubbel | arrrrr |
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| 19:00.23 | EdibleText | !be keyboard barbi |
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| 19:00.39 | aurel42 | xst: when i need a chroot environment, i actually put a complete debian base install there. might be overhead, but everything i want caged will work and i can use package management inside the cage. |
| 19:00.39 | strubbel | again, does debian/rules build debian packages from debian sources? |
| 19:00.42 | doub | xst: anyway, as aurel42 pointed out, you can try debootstrap |
| 19:01.08 | aurel42 | doub, thanks, that's what i'm using :) |
| 19:01.21 | xst | It worked if I copied /lib to <somepath>/lib also. |
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| 19:01.42 | xst | Now the question is: How do I perform the chroot when the user logs in? |
| 19:01.53 | TheArtist | i uninstall grub but it still starts and lilo wont overwrite the MBR, tells me only cannot do it... anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 19:02.13 | EdibleText | strubbel, yes but the question is loaded |
| 19:02.15 | greycat | fix lilo.conf, run lilo |
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| 19:02.30 | doub | xst: it all depends how the user logs in. if via ssh, you can run ssh direclty from the chroot |
| 19:02.43 | strubbel | EdibleText: please explain loaded. |
| 19:02.48 | DeathPrawn | I'm having trouble installing drm-kernel; I run "make -f Makefile.linux" in its source directory like the instructions say, but it gives me a bunch of "undeclared" errors . It's my first time really messing with the kernel. I've looked at a bunch of docs, but haven't really found anythingnything to help me... |
| 19:02.51 | TheArtist | greycat, even if i have reinstalled lilo and made a new config file? |
| 19:02.54 | doub | xst: if it's from console, run the login command from the chroot |
| 19:03.05 | xst | Sorry - the login is from ssh |
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| 19:03.10 | greycat | if lilo is bitching it's because your lilo.conf is wrong. |
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| 19:03.30 | EdibleText | strubbel, if you apt-get source foo you get a debian directory with the ruls script in it... |
| 19:03.38 | doub | xst: so put your sshd in the chroot, and run it from there |
| 19:03.46 | xst | That is: When the user login through ssh, he should be jailed into his homedir |
| 19:03.55 | TheArtist | greycat, okies ill go away and have a look, thanks |
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| 19:04.24 | strubbel | EdibleText: yes, but i did it manually because i wanted a testing source...using woody |
| 19:04.25 | aurel42 | xst: apt-get install rssh |
| 19:04.26 | nvz | I am calling these vonage people to ask about their service. I am not sure its worth messing with yet.. but with the rediculous price of phone service anymore, and the fact there is no digital phone provider in the area we could get more features and save $500 or more anually |
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| 19:04.37 | Nic | I found the answer of my problem in the troubles section of this nice howto : http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=43 |
| 19:04.42 | aurel42 | xst: cd /usr/share/doc/rssh ; ls -l ;) |
| 19:04.44 | Nic | hope it can help someone else |
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| 19:04.55 | EdibleText | strubbel, but if you download a tarball, for example mplayer, it will also have a debian directory in it with the rules script. because the developers put it there |
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| 19:05.21 | EdibleText | strubbel, so what are you trying to do |
| 19:05.26 | xst | Thanks |
| 19:05.30 | strubbel | EdibleText: so just debian/rules will do the trick, if i'm lucky |
| 19:05.43 | strubbel | EdibleText: try to backport something |
| 19:06.09 | doub | strubbel: otherwise, run dpkg-buildpackage at the root of the package dir |
| 19:06.16 | aurel42 | xst: you can also tell the ordinary bash to restrict the user to its home, try man bash |
| 19:06.19 | EdibleText | debian/rules binary will build the deb. others know more about it then i do |
| 19:06.24 | strubbel | doub: aha |
| 19:06.38 | aurel42 | xst: search for RESTRICTED SHELL |
| 19:06.44 | strubbel | EdibleText: ok |
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| 19:08.01 | distempr | Is there an applet that will display my hardware sensors in gnome? ie: temp, rpm? |
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| 19:08.48 | EdibleText | distempr, gtkrellm or something (disclaimer: never used it) |
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| 19:09.10 | distempr | EdibleText: thanks, but I was looking for a panel applet :) |
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| 19:10.13 | quitte | daniels in which package should libscanpci.so go? |
| 19:10.28 | paulswm | grrr, 10 hours solid work because some idiot fscked up a stored procedure |
| 19:11.02 | aurel42 | all hail stored procedures. |
| 19:12.16 | strubbel | i get a "bash: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied", but everything is 644 |
| 19:12.18 | mirak | what is a rewall ? |
| 19:12.30 | caphuso | strubbel: 644 means it's not executable |
| 19:12.40 | strubbel | caphuso: not make |
| 19:12.45 | greycat | strubbel: make it 755. |
| 19:12.46 | strubbel | caphuso: the dirs |
| 19:12.55 | caphuso | strubbel: the dirs? then it's even more fucked up |
| 19:12.56 | EdibleText | strubbel, the rules scripts |
| 19:13.01 | strubbel | caphuso: make is 755 of course |
| 19:13.02 | supaman | (fi)rewall |
| 19:13.02 | greycat | dirs should *definitely* never be 644. |
| 19:13.12 | caphuso | strubbel: so what? the rules file must be executable |
| 19:13.15 | yeaH | i was trying to install this file "et-linux-2.55.x86.run.txt" but it said that one of the file was similar to "another" file... anyone knows why? |
| 19:13.18 | strubbel | EdibleText: ok |
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| 19:13.37 | yeaH | !install |
| 19:13.38 | dpkg | methinks install is To test sarge (upcoming Debian 3.1) see <http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/>. For woody (Debian 3.0), see http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html or the official guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/woody - see the tips at http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/tips or http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 19:13.40 | greycat | yeaH: /msg dpkg VAGUENESS |
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| 19:14.11 | EdibleText | greycat, dpkg is out sick today |
| 19:14.22 | EdibleText | hmm |
| 19:14.24 | greycat | is not. |
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| 19:14.39 | paulswm | *was* out sick, heh |
| 19:14.44 | EdibleText | oh, i missed it |
| 19:15.00 | yeaH | well, his anser didn't help me... |
| 19:15.04 | yeaH | *answer |
| 19:15.05 | greycat | !VAGUENESS |
| 19:15.05 | dpkg | VAGUENESS CAUSES CANCER! |
| 19:15.06 | badgers | VAGUENESS KILLS! |
| 19:15.12 | greycat | badgers: shush. |
| 19:15.13 | badgers | Fine, I'll shut up. |
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| 19:19.09 | paulswm | great, finally able to devote some time to this my favorite place and you all are suddenly struck dumb |
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| 19:19.35 | asg | paulswm: we all had to work today |
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| 19:20.05 | paulswm | asg: I'm sure - my day started with a page at 0330 |
| 19:20.21 | yeaH | anyone whom can help me? |
| 19:20.23 | asg | paulswm: ouch |
| 19:20.59 | asg | yeaH: only if you explain your problem. The bit you mentioned above made no sense whatsoever and we couldn't parse it. |
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| 19:21.08 | yeaH | okay |
| 19:21.15 | paulswm | asg: becasue of someone else's idiocy, Ive been backing data out of tables and rerunning scripts until about 20 mins ago. |
| 19:21.18 | thorie | how do i copy an entire disk to another disk? |
| 19:21.26 | asg | paulswm: oh, more oracle joy? |
| 19:21.31 | Flimzy | yeaH: I don't think anyone knows what your problem is. |
| 19:21.38 | paulswm | !win asg |
| 19:21.38 | Flimzy | thorie: floppy? |
| 19:21.39 | dpkg | Congratulations, asg! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 19:21.39 | badgers | Congratulations, asg! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 19:21.44 | thorie | Flimzy: IDE hdd |
| 19:21.48 | Flimzy | thorie: dd should do it nicely |
| 19:21.54 | asg | sussudio: dpkg is back, badgers can take the rest of the day off |
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| 19:22.06 | Flimzy | thorie: are they identical? |
| 19:22.11 | mirak | hi |
| 19:22.12 | strubbel | deb is build. got some errors for signing but that should be normal because i got no private key of the maintainer ;) maybe i should build it with mine...otherwise i allready got what i wanted :) |
| 19:22.17 | thorie | Flimzy: almost... one is 6 gigs the new one is 9 gigs |
| 19:22.32 | sussudio | !test |
| 19:22.32 | dpkg | No, sussudio, you're not online any more. |
| 19:22.33 | badgers | Yes, sussudio, you're still online. |
| 19:22.34 | Flimzy | thorie: then they're not even close to identical |
| 19:22.37 | thorie | Flimzy: but the 6 gig is reaching the end of it's life hours |
| 19:22.39 | sussudio | hmk. |
| 19:22.44 | Flimzy | thorie: man cp should tell you everything you need |
| 19:22.56 | mirak | I want to use cvs remotely, should I use ssh or pserver method ? |
| 19:23.02 | asg | mirak: the former |
| 19:23.04 | paulswm | asg: oracle's ok, it's my idiot partner that's the problem, changing a stored procedure and putting it into production *without testing it* |
| 19:23.14 | asg | paulswm: ah, time for a beating. |
| 19:23.16 | mirak | asg: sorry, I don't understand that |
| 19:23.25 | mirak | asg: wich one is the later ? |
| 19:23.26 | paulswm | asg: wood chipper, I think |
| 19:23.28 | mirak | or the former |
| 19:23.29 | asg | mirak: ssh is preferred unless you have a compelling reason to use pserver. |
| 19:23.42 | thorie | Flimzy: well, the problem is, i can't turn off the machine that the 6 gig is running to plug in the 9 gig as a secondary IDE disk... is there a way to do the copy over a network? if so, do i load a small instance of debian onto the 9 gig first so i can run sshd? |
| 19:23.42 | asg | paulswm: ah, the Fargo defense. |
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| 19:24.05 | asg | thorie: tar + ssh work lovely |
| 19:24.06 | EdibleText | thorie, rsync |
| 19:24.09 | mirak | asg: ok. hem, there is something I don't realise, it's about how the rights must be handled on the repository |
| 19:24.10 | yeaH | Well i'am trying to install i ET server program (game server) the file name is "et-linux-2.55.x86.run.txt" i wrote "sh et-linux-2.55.x86.run.txt" after a couple of seconds it gave me altos of numbers and said that the file (numbers and letter) wasn't similar to the file (lots of numbers and letters). That's my problem, anyone who understands it now? |
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| 19:24.25 | Flimzy | thorie: Sure... use tar + ssh |
| 19:24.33 | Flimzy | thorie: Or mount an SMB/NFS partition |
| 19:24.36 | mirak | asg: I should create a cvs group, or something isn't it ? |
| 19:24.41 | paulswm | asg: everybody screws up, though, and I expect he'll be hauling my ass out of the fire one day |
| 19:24.43 | thorie | Flimzy: i can just do: tar -cvf everything.tar / ? |
| 19:24.44 | LSorensen | thorie: could boot a livecd (rescuecd) and use it to copy with rsync+ssh or scp (I recomend rsync) |
| 19:24.45 | asg | mirak: just like standard file rights (if you have something complicated, use groups and/or acls) |
| 19:24.59 | asg | paulswm: yeah |
| 19:25.01 | Flimzy | thorie: This isn't Windows where magical programs like ghost are needed. Just be creative and find a way to copy a file from one PC to the other... and then you have it made. |
| 19:25.01 | mirak | asg: it's for 7 persons |
| 19:25.20 | thorie | ok |
| 19:25.22 | Flimzy | thorie: No... b/c some things can't be tarred (most notably /proc... perhaps /dev) |
| 19:25.31 | LSorensen | mirak: you you will need to mess with a group and adding people to it and making the cvs files group writable, and such. cvs is really quite a pain |
| 19:25.32 | thorie | Flimzy: yeah thats what i was worried about |
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| 19:25.41 | thorie | Flimzy: how do I copy -everything- ... |
| 19:25.45 | Flimzy | thorie: But you can tar everything else... and pipe it thru ssh and untar on the other end |
| 19:25.48 | asg | mirak: oh, that's fine. Stick them in a group. Give the group access to the repo (in /var/lib/cvs by default). You'll have to fiddle with some perms in CVSROOT but it isn't hard to figure out. |
| 19:25.49 | LSorensen | thorie: rsync -a |
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| 19:25.52 | mirak | asg: if there is more than one project on a cvsroot, if I want a separated group per project, I must a crate a diferent group for each ? |
| 19:25.57 | thorie | ok lemme man rsync |
| 19:25.58 | asg | mirak: yes |
| 19:26.07 | LSorensen | thorie: just make sure NOT to copy /proc and the like |
| 19:26.13 | yeaH | anyone? got no feedback after trying to explain it. |
| 19:26.13 | thorie | why not? |
| 19:26.15 | Flimzy | thorie: You don't copy *everything*. /proc *CAN NOT* be copied |
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| 19:26.23 | Flimzy | thorie: But you can copy practically everything else. |
| 19:26.31 | LSorensen | thorie: /proc does not exist, it is entirely created on the fly when needed by the kernel |
| 19:26.31 | Flimzy | thorie: man tar for 'exclude' |
| 19:26.35 | thorie | will the new hard disk be bootable? |
| 19:26.37 | asg | LSorensen: isn't tar faster than rsync -a on that first sync? |
| 19:26.39 | mirak | asg: and what is the interest to have cvs-passwd if users are handled with local rights ? |
| 19:26.41 | Flimzy | thorie: Because /proc doesn't really exist, that's why not |
| 19:26.43 | LSorensen | thorie: not unless you add a boto loader to it |
| 19:26.53 | asg | mirak: you don't, they have local accounts and ssh access. |
| 19:26.53 | LSorensen | asg: not likely. rsync is faster than scp |
| 19:26.58 | thorie | i want to make an exact sector-by-sector copy of the old hdd to a new hdd |
| 19:27.05 | yeaH | Well i'am trying to install i ET server program (game server) the file name is "et-linux-2.55.x86.run.txt" i wrote "sh et-linux-2.55.x86.run.txt" after a couple of seconds it gave me altos of numbers and said that the file (numbers and letter) wasn't similar to the file (lots of numbers and letters). That's my problem, anyone who understands it now? |
| 19:27.06 | LSorensen | thorie: are they identical size? |
| 19:27.10 | thorie | including the boot sector, MBR |
| 19:27.11 | mirak | asg: so what is the interst of cvs-passwd ? |
| 19:27.22 | Flimzy | thorie: that's not possible if the drives are not identical |
| 19:27.24 | supaman | yeaH: this is not a problem with the debian distribution so you best contact the people who make that program ... |
| 19:27.26 | thorie | LSorensen: no, the new one is bigger so it should fit |
| 19:27.26 | mattybats2 | everything's all choppy on my puter |
| 19:27.27 | LSorensen | thorie: and you can only do a copy of the disk raw if it isn't mounted |
| 19:27.29 | Flimzy | thorie: And we've already established that they are not identical. |
| 19:27.33 | mattybats2 | all draggy and drugged out |
| 19:27.36 | thorie | ok |
| 19:27.39 | asg | LSorensen: I was talking about tar -cf - | ssh foo@bar "tar -xf -", not scp |
| 19:27.41 | yeaH | okay, thanks |
| 19:27.48 | LSorensen | thorie: so to copy it byte by byte requires shutting the system down |
| 19:27.48 | mirak | asg: sorry for the question, if you have no time, don't bother answer, I will search |
| 19:27.51 | Flimzy | thorie: also note that if the original system is up and running during the copy that some changes will be made to the filesystem during the copy... most probably to /var and possibly /tmp |
| 19:27.52 | mattybats2 | i hate computers |
| 19:27.57 | LSorensen | asg: I think rsync may still be faster |
| 19:27.59 | Flimzy | thorie: So by the time the copy is complete, it will be "outdated" |
| 19:28.13 | asg | LSorensen: cool, didn't know that. Thanks. |
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| 19:28.16 | LSorensen | asg: I also trust rsync better for handling things that are weird |
| 19:28.21 | thorie | Flimzy: not a problem, as long as I have a backup for when the old one fails, i can just plug in the new one and not worry about it "not working" |
| 19:28.23 | FieldySnuts | damn badgers |
| 19:28.35 | FieldySnuts | LSorensen: oh strongly agree, try telling that to those addicted to cp -a and tar heh |
| 19:28.37 | asg | mirak: sorry, I don't know offhand since I've never used it. |
| 19:28.42 | asg | LSorensen: a, good point |
| 19:28.46 | mirak | asg: ok thanks |
| 19:28.50 | dan2 | asg! |
| 19:28.54 | FieldySnuts | tunnel it over ssh with the -e option |
| 19:28.54 | asg | dan2: hiya |
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| 19:29.05 | FieldySnuts | rsync -avD --progress --delete --ignore-errors -e something source dest |
| 19:29.10 | LSorensen | asg: rsync may even have a -x option for excluding mounted filesystems so rsync -ax / desthost:/diskmount should work |
| 19:29.30 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: --progress causes slowdowns on small files |
| 19:29.32 | asg | LSorensen: right |
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| 19:29.54 | EdibleText | dont forget rsync --exclude=/<directorys to be excluded> |
| 19:29.59 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: -v simply causes slowdowns |
| 19:30.17 | LSorensen | EdibleText: that's what -x takes care of |
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| 19:30.38 | LSorensen | EdibleText: it excludes anything outside the / filessystem (so /proc, /whatever else is mounted, etc) |
| 19:30.40 | paulswm | LSorensen: yes rsync can be told to stay on one filesystem |
| 19:30.40 | FieldySnuts | take em off then, suit to taste |
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| 19:30.55 | EdibleText | LSorensen, oh nice... |
| 19:31.03 | thorie | is there a HOWTO on making backups of your system so that in case of hdd failure, you can just plug in the backup hdd and be on your way? |
| 19:31.08 | tobehz | is there some sort of special way of invoking powernowd to make it actually scale my cpu actively? |
| 19:31.11 | FieldySnuts | tryin to shove 3.7 million files and about 27GB over a T1 via rsync as we speak.. |
| 19:31.12 | LSorensen | EdibleText: of course if /home is a seperate partition, it has to be rsynced seperately |
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| 19:31.26 | LSorensen | thorie: I tend to use software raid1 for that purpose. |
| 19:31.42 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: 27GB over a T1? |
| 19:31.46 | FieldySnuts | yeah raid1 is good for that, with a hotspare if possible |
| 19:31.48 | EdibleText | LSorensen, hmm Mine usually are.. that why I --exclude=/proc nad /dev |
| 19:31.51 | thorie | or do I have to setup debian all over again, from scratch, and manually copy file-by-file and set permissions file-by-file to restore the system to how it used to be? |
| 19:31.53 | EdibleText | and even |
| 19:32.35 | LSorensen | EdibleText: I think it's safer to just use -x and then rsync each filesystem |
| 19:32.35 | FieldySnuts | LSorensen: shrug. all i've been given to work with, been trying on and off to finish the damn thing for the past week (common bitchings of "hey everythings slow" duh) |
| 19:32.35 | thorie | there is no HOWTO or some kind of backup guide to do this stuff? |
| 19:32.35 | EdibleText | and I usually do --delete-after |
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| 19:32.35 | Flimzy | thorie: If you copy the entire contents of the drive to a spare, then run 'lilo' on the spare, you should be ready to go. |
| 19:32.42 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: --bwlimit :) |
| 19:32.43 | FieldySnuts | thorie: raid-howto, at least that's for software raid. which is very good in linux, especially 2.6 kernels |
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| 19:32.52 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: stick to 90% of T1 speed and people should be happy |
| 19:32.53 | thorie | Flimzy: i don't need to format the new hdd first? |
| 19:32.55 | FieldySnuts | LSorensen: set to 100, they still bitch (that's about 80K left) |
| 19:33.03 | LSorensen | thorie: you have to partitoin, format, etc, |
| 19:33.07 | Flimzy | thorie: of course you do |
| 19:33.09 | FieldySnuts | LSorensen: you'd think so :) |
| 19:33.13 | EdibleText | thorie, you need a nice bed onto which to lay your files |
| 19:33.15 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: then ignore them |
| 19:33.23 | FieldySnuts | i am |
| 19:33.28 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: who thought moving 27G over T1 was a good idea? |
| 19:33.30 | Flimzy | thorie: set up swap, etc |
| 19:33.31 | thorie | Flimzy: i want to avoid having to do the partitioning, there are way too many and i don't want to worry about the sizes again... i just want to have the same partition table |
| 19:33.34 | FieldySnuts | LSorensen: PHB's |
| 19:33.38 | Flimzy | thorie: and your multiple partitions (if appropriate) |
| 19:33.42 | FieldySnuts | LSorensen: "oh a few hours should do it right?" hehe |
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| 19:33.49 | EdibleText | T1 does 15GB a day max |
| 19:33.49 | Flimzy | thorie: mount the new partitios appropriately... |
| 19:33.51 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: a calculator will answer that |
| 19:33.54 | Flimzy | thorie: then tar or cp from the original disc to new one |
| 19:33.58 | FieldySnuts | i've done the calcs, i'm aware |
| 19:34.02 | Flimzy | thorie: Then hire an admin who knows what he's doing |
| 19:34.06 | FieldySnuts | managed to get 22 over there so far |
| 19:34.11 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: did you tell them excactly how many hours at 100% bandwidth it takes? |
| 19:34.14 | FieldySnuts | my point was i'm using rsync for it, and it's great |
| 19:34.19 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: do you guys pay for bandwidth on that link? |
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| 19:34.22 | Flimzy | thomas_adam: YOU CANNOT HAVE THE SAME PARTITION TABLE IF THE DISKS ARE DIFFERENT SIZES |
| 19:34.25 | FieldySnuts | LSorensen: nope |
| 19:34.33 | Martok | Hey, does anybody know if you can boost the output of your sound card? |
| 19:34.41 | LSorensen | FieldySnuts: you are supposed to tell people the fact, and let them figure out they are dumb on their own |
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| 19:34.50 | thorie | Flimzy: well, i'd like to leave any unused space on the disk as unpartitioned space |
| 19:34.50 | thomas_adam | Flimzy: I know that. Next lame moronic tab completion trick, please. |
| 19:34.54 | FieldySnuts | LSorensen: i have. they've got the numbers. |
| 19:35.00 | Flimzy | Martok: Sure... buy an amplifier |
| 19:35.04 | doub | thorie: partitions can't be identical on two different HDs, only almost : partition tables are aligned on cylinder boundaries, which are different for each hard drive |
| 19:35.04 | thorie | Flimzy: since the new hdd is larger than the old one |
| 19:35.15 | thorie | doub: oh ok |
| 19:35.31 | Flimzy | thorie: You still have to manually paritition, even if you leave the end unpartitioned |
| 19:35.33 | Martok | Flimzy: I just bought a new headset and it's really low. |
| 19:35.38 | FieldySnuts | just go read the raid-howto if you're going to do software raid (i.e., you don't have a 100% hardware raid controller, or no raid controller at all) |
| 19:35.39 | thorie | so is there a HOWTO that explains what I need to do? |
| 19:35.45 | Flimzy | thorie: because the drive geometries are most likely different |
| 19:35.45 | FieldySnuts | thorie: yep, see above |
| 19:35.48 | thorie | Flimzy: thats what i needed to know |
| 19:35.53 | LSorensen | doub: well most modern drives all uses the same virtual cylinder size, although 6 and 9G are hardly modern |
| 19:35.58 | thorie | Flimzy: but you assumed i knew that already and told me to copy files |
| 19:36.00 | LSorensen | doub: so yeah it probably would be a problem |
| 19:36.00 | Flimzy | thomas_adam: I need to invest some time in learning how to turn off nick completion |
| 19:36.07 | thorie | Flimzy: i need a beginner's guide to doing a backup... |
| 19:36.15 | Flimzy | thorie: What you need to do seems too simple to warrant a HOWTO IMHO |
| 19:36.15 | thomas_adam | Flimzy: Which irc-client are you using? |
| 19:36.18 | FieldySnuts | thorie: fer the third time, raid-howto |
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| 19:36.25 | EdibleText | Martok, all you can do is play with aumix or alsamix. other then that you need to amplify |
| 19:36.30 | Flimzy | thomas_adam: xchat |
| 19:36.35 | FieldySnuts | !irritate Silicon Image "raid" chipsets |
| 19:36.35 | LSorensen | Flimzy: use irssi |
| 19:36.43 | thorie | Flimzy: i don't know that you need to partition the disk, i didn't know that you can't copy /proc, i didn't know you can't do a sector-by-sector copy... there's a lot of stuff i don't know about doing a backup |
| 19:36.50 | FieldySnuts | hm, gone, ah well |
| 19:36.51 | thomas_adam | Flimzy: That's in one of the preference dialogs, isn't it? |
| 19:36.56 | hax | what's an example of a 'source' line i can add to sources.list? (i want to install source packages) |
| 19:37.00 | Flimzy | LSorensen: nah |
| 19:37.03 | thorie | Flimzy: so a HOWTO for beginners on doing a backup would be very useful |
| 19:37.06 | Flimzy | thomas_adam: looking now |
| 19:37.15 | Martok | How do I use those EdibleText? |
| 19:37.17 | thomas_adam | Flimzy: If not, #xchat. |
| 19:37.30 | Flimzy | thorie: perhaps you can write one once you've got the process done |
| 19:37.36 | FieldySnuts | keep in mind, setting up raid is not a backup. actual backups, are backups. raid is just for hardware failure (excluding raid0) |
| 19:37.37 | thomas_adam | hax: apt-setup |
| 19:37.45 | Flimzy | thorie: I never had those problems... and I've done such backups countless times |
| 19:37.50 | thorie | Flimzy: how??? |
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| 19:38.01 | Flimzy | thorie: I guess common sense is just something I don't generally need explained to me in a HOWTO. |
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| 19:38.02 | FieldySnuts | ok, i've told em where to go 3 times now, i give up, enjoy |
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| 19:38.18 | EdibleText | Martok, if you are using alsa; 'alsamixer' |
| 19:38.22 | Flimzy | thomas_adam: found it |
| 19:38.22 | thomas_adam | hax: Although all you need to do, is copy one of the deb ... lines, and replace deb with deb-src. |
| 19:38.27 | thorie | Flimzy: Here's what I gathered so far... Step 1) Partition and format the new hdd to approximate the same specs as the old hdd |
| 19:38.30 | pingouin_ | fundamental backup techniques http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/chap_09.html |
| 19:38.36 | Flimzy | thomas_adam: altho I'm not convinced it's disabled. *sigh* |
| 19:38.40 | hax | thomas_adam: thats what i was looking for :) |
| 19:38.41 | hax | thomas_adam: thanks |
| 19:38.55 | thorie | Flimzy: Step 2) Use a livecd (knoppix?) to boot and mount the new hdd |
| 19:39.05 | Flimzy | thorie: so far so good |
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| 19:39.19 | Flimzy | thorie: that could work |
| 19:39.26 | thorie | Flimzy: Step 3) Copy the files (except /proc) preserving permissions to the new system over the network |
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| 19:39.33 | Esa | I have problems with SUID bit, i have script which has root owner and u+s. That script includes "echo $USER", but when i run it on normal user, it still echos that normal users name. Why SUID is not working? |
| 19:39.41 | Martok | Thanks Edible |
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| 19:39.51 | Flimzy | thorie: yup |
| 19:39.55 | doub | Esa: setuid bits on scripts is not honored by linux |
| 19:39.58 | EdibleText | thorie, note on #1 specs are less important. just partition and format as your needs fit |
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| 19:40.06 | thorie | Flimzy: Step 4) Run LILO to make the disk bootable |
| 19:40.07 | Flimzy | thorie: step 2a) Mount all the parittions appropriately. / in /mnt, /usr in /mnt/usr, etc |
| 19:40.22 | EdibleText | thorie, ie you can use the full 9G if you want |
| 19:40.35 | Flimzy | thorie: 3a) boot from the new HD, using a Debain rescue disk |
| 19:40.51 | thorie | Flimzy: Step 5) Reboot the system, pray to God it works |
| 19:40.55 | Esa | doub, is there way to get it working? |
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| 19:41.09 | thorie | Flimzy: When does /proc ever get created? During bootup? |
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| 19:41.26 | doub | Esa: some ugly way would involve writing a wrapper C program, setuid to call your script |
| 19:41.35 | Flimzy | thorie: step 3b) mkdir /proc |
| 19:41.41 | zumbi_ | hello ! somebody is using freeswan ? |
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| 19:41.49 | Flimzy | thorie: Then it will be mounted appropriately when you boot off the new HD |
| 19:41.56 | cycom | how the hell do I install irssi |
| 19:42.01 | thorie | what permissions for /proc? |
| 19:42.02 | Esa | :D |
| 19:42.03 | zumbi_ | do you need to patch debian kernel to use freeswan ? |
| 19:42.15 | Flimzy | I thought freeswan died |
| 19:42.19 | thorie | just the same ones from the old hdd ? |
| 19:42.19 | cycom | apt-get install irssi is like 'what? irssi? it's here, but you can't have it' |
| 19:42.21 | Flimzy | cycom: apt-get install irssi ? |
| 19:42.35 | Vroum | irssi-text |
| 19:42.35 | Flimzy | zumbi_: I think so |
| 19:42.36 | mattybats | yeah so i'm not using my computer for a little while and it starts running screensavers. when i decide to start using it again and pull it out of the screen saver shit i get all this lag in gnome. like moving in slow motion. any ideas? |
| 19:42.38 | Delph | cycom: what does it say? |
| 19:42.41 | zumbi_ | Flimzy but for 2.4 is alive ! |
| 19:42.46 | doub | Esa: but if they're not honored, it's because of the security risk: it's very easy for an attacker to edit a setuid script (or a wrapped one) whereas it's harder to modify a setuid program |
| 19:42.49 | Flimzy | thorie: don't worry about permissions... b/c as we said before, /proc doesn't really exist |
| 19:42.52 | Delph | probably something about it being a virtual package and its provided by some other things, yes? |
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| 19:42.55 | cycom | it says 'not available' |
| 19:43.12 | doub | Esa: so it's your call if you want this or not |
| 19:43.22 | Flimzy | mattybats: Does the slowness go away after you use it for a bit? |
| 19:43.26 | mattybats | nope |
| 19:43.28 | cycom | 'package irssi has no installation candidate' and some other stuff too |
| 19:43.29 | xerophyte | does anyone know what outbound ports cvs uses when it connects to a server? |
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| 19:43.41 | Vroum | cycom: irssi-text |
| 19:43.57 | mattybats | if this was windows or something i would look for some process that's consuming all the resources |
| 19:43.59 | Esa | doub, ok. second way to do what i want is do it with sudo and put NOPASSWD access to some file and that way.. |
| 19:43.59 | supaman | cycom: like Vroum says, its apt-get install irssi-text |
| 19:44.06 | cycom | Vroum: Joo rock. thanks! |
| 19:44.14 | Flimzy | mattybats: If you disable the screen saver, does it work after long periods of inactivity? |
| 19:44.14 | Vroum | :p |
| 19:44.27 | mattybats | haven't tried that |
| 19:44.41 | mattybats | the other terminals seemed to be fine when this happened |
| 19:44.54 | mattybats | talking about ctrl+alt+f1 |
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| 19:44.58 | mattybats | and such |
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| 19:45.04 | supaman | cycom: you should use apt-cache search more :-) |
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| 19:45.21 | doub | Esa: that sounds better |
| 19:45.23 | Vroum | supaman: or bash_completion feature |
| 19:45.26 | Vroum | :) |
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| 19:45.44 | ricky_clarkson | Yes, that is rather good. |
| 19:45.58 | Flimzy | mattybats: how much RAM do you have? |
| 19:46.08 | mattybats | 128 |
| 19:46.18 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks ..newbie here, am I in the right place? |
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| 19:46.44 | mattybats | and i noticed some choppyness when it started on the 3d flying toasters screensaver |
| 19:46.44 | supaman | BluesKaj: if you have a debian question then yes, else, probably not |
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| 19:47.56 | cycom | oh, and how do I find more debian apt sources? |
| 19:48.08 | zumbi_ | well, what packages do you recommend to install ipsec ? |
| 19:48.13 | BluesKaj | Ok, just burned an ISO of Debian 3.0 r4 for x86 , how do I install it ...already have a repartition with swap made with partition magic |
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| 19:48.36 | cycom | BluesKaj: throw the disc in the CD-Rom and set your bios to boot from CD |
| 19:48.42 | jasz | BluesKaj: .. insert the cd... reboot... it should boot from the cd |
| 19:48.46 | EdibleText | zumbi_, freeswan/openswan are the linux implementations of ipsec |
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| 19:48.54 | supaman | BluesKaj: and read the installation instruction on the www.debian.org |
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| 19:49.16 | cycom | jasz: only if his box doesn't (stupudly) boot from A:, C:, and THEN cdrom |
| 19:49.26 | EdibleText | zumbi_, openswan is what the project is called now. freeswan didnt meet its project objectives |
| 19:49.32 | cycom | but how do I find more apt-get sources, like websites and stuff |
| 19:49.33 | zumbi_ | EdibleText, but not for 2.6 ? Flimzy says freeswan is dead, also i have been reading on KAME |
| 19:49.45 | xelam|home | cycom: what do A: and C: have to do with linux? |
| 19:49.47 | BluesKaj | boot sequence is cd-rom first then |
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| 19:49.56 | BluesKaj | ? |
| 19:50.01 | supaman | BluesKaj: correct |
| 19:50.06 | LSorensen | zumbi_: openswan uses the kernel ipsec instead of patching the kernel the way freeswan did (as far as I have understood it). works great too |
| 19:50.09 | BluesKaj | ok thx , will try |
| 19:50.14 | BluesKaj | BBl |
| 19:50.21 | jasz | xelam|home: some old boxes call A or C to the drives.. instead of hard disks or volumes.. |
| 19:50.28 | ZEA | is there a temporary workaround for amsn's crashing bug in testing? (X_OpenFont...) bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=273873 |
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| 19:50.36 | xelam|home | jasz: :S |
| 19:50.52 | jasz | xelam|home: in the time os DOS... |
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| 19:51.01 | EdibleText | zumbi_, join #openswan all the original freeswan personalties are there |
| 19:51.03 | ricky_clarkson | I must admit when I started on Linux I did ln -s /mnt/floppy a |
| 19:51.11 | zumbi_ | ok, thanks i'm going to check documentation on openswan |
| 19:51.23 | jasz | ricky_clarkson: .. hahahaha.. thats funny |
| 19:51.26 | cycom | xelam|home: nothing, but my bios still labels drives as A: C:, CD-ROM instead of floppy, HD, CD-ROM |
| 19:51.36 | xelam|home | ick |
| 19:51.37 | chealer | cycom: apt-setup? |
| 19:51.47 | jasz | cycom: .. you need a newer puter :P |
| 19:51.48 | LSorensen | cycom: would you prefer it labeld them 0x00, 0x80, 0x82? |
| 19:51.49 | cycom | aha! thanks chealer |
| 19:52.01 | EdibleText | zumbi_, besure to look at openswan.org to get started |
| 19:52.01 | tobehz | SiliconViper: That StarterBar is a bitch :( |
| 19:52.23 | zumbi_ | sure EdibleText :-) |
| 19:52.45 | cycom | LSorensen: yes. yes I would. |
| 19:52.47 | cycom | not really |
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| 19:53.28 | xelam|home | cycom: is A: a 5.25" floppy drive? :) |
| 19:53.28 | cycom | I'd prefer them to be labled something like 'floppy0, harddrive0, cdrom0' or 'fd0, hda0, cdrom0' or something |
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| 19:53.38 | borius | I need mplayer for woody. possible? |
| 19:53.40 | cycom | xelam|home: depends on the computer |
| 19:53.46 | mirak | drwxrwsr-x , what does mean the s ? |
| 19:53.51 | xelam|home | hmm |
| 19:54.03 | cycom | :) |
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| 19:54.06 | mattybats | does apt-get install save the deb package somewhere locally when it's done installing? |
| 19:54.11 | EdibleText | borius, sure /m dpkg mplayer |
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| 19:54.30 | xelam|home | mirak: sticky? |
| 19:54.39 | xelam|home | or set gid |
| 19:54.46 | mirak | what does this imply ? |
| 19:55.03 | xelam|home | what dir is it? |
| 19:55.07 | LSorensen | cycom: well my computer labels them floppy 0 and floppy 1 as far as I remember. the harddisks are labeld primary master, primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave, and then on the promise they are just D0, D1, D2, D3 |
| 19:55.09 | asg | mirak: that the group ownership is retained for all newly created files and directories |
| 19:55.15 | EdibleText | mattybats, /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 19:55.19 | asg | mirak: underneath the setgid'd one |
| 19:55.26 | mirak | asg ok intersting |
| 19:55.30 | LSorensen | mattybats: apt-get clean, removes the cached copy |
| 19:55.34 | cycom | LSorensen: that's only when you're doing the HD autodetect for me |
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| 19:55.52 | LSorensen | cycom: well mine even seems to use those labels in the bios setup as far as I remember. |
| 19:55.54 | [H]ell | yo collège bart |
| 19:56.00 | asg | mirak: with proper umasks set for users, it allows for easy collaboration in Unix groups |
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| 19:56.16 | cycom | maybe it says Harddrive instead of C: on some of em |
| 19:56.26 | mattybats | EdibleText: thanks |
| 19:56.26 | cycom | but I have at least one that does A: C: CDROM |
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| 19:56.36 | LSorensen | cycom: yeah true. |
| 19:56.37 | xelam|home | of course, ACL is much nicer than UNIX's standard permissions stuff :/ |
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| 19:56.44 | mirak | asg: that's what I am realising, it would have been usefull for some stuffs |
| 19:56.56 | LSorensen | cycom: for boot order I have floppy, cdrom, first harddisk, second harddisk, etc |
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| 19:57.08 | cycom | I've seen that before, and I miss it |
| 19:57.10 | LSorensen | cycom: where first harddisk depends on the order I assigned to the ide controllers |
| 19:57.12 | asg | xelam|home: mount your partition with 'acl' (provided your kernel has support for posix acls), apt-get install acl, use {set,get}facl |
| 19:57.24 | cycom | yeah, one of my boxes has that too |
| 19:57.30 | LSorensen | cycom: seems to be how most Asus motherboards do it for the last number of years |
| 19:57.30 | xelam|home | I don't need it here |
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| 19:58.11 | streuner__ | Bet: /msg apt guidelines |
| 19:58.27 | LSorensen | asg: Hmm, I only had to enable acl in mount for ext2/3 but xfs it just works |
| 19:58.36 | LSorensen | asg: alwyass thought that was a bit odd |
| 19:58.46 | asg | LSorensen: xfs has it's own acl implementation builtin right? |
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| 19:59.14 | asg | LSorensen: actually, yeah, that does sound odd. |
| 19:59.44 | abrotman | the demigods are gone!! |
| 19:59.47 | asg | !pubtime |
| 19:59.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pubtime is time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
| 19:59.47 | oskie | hey, what's going on with exim and spamassassin lately? it doesn't seem to check all mails any longer |
| 20:00.07 | abrotman | !pubtime |
| 20:00.11 | dpkg | well, pubtime is time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
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| 20:00.17 | abrotman | on the nose too :) |
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| 20:00.54 | cycom | time to begin debian install #2 |
| 20:00.56 | cycom | yay! |
| 20:01.03 | cycom | (different box) |
| 20:01.19 | streuner__ | apt, no guidelines is <reply> 1) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 2) Don't repeat questions. Read and grow; show growth in new questions. 3) Reading technical documentation is a skill, please persevere, it's worth it. 4) If your problem isn't solved, come back a few hours or days later. 5) Please use /msg to talk to the bots. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood, not here. 8) Don't use colours or bold, do not run scripts. 9) No Trolls. 10) |
| 20:01.20 | apt | streuner__: okay |
| 20:01.20 | streuner__ | e <msg> |
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| 20:01.54 | abrotman | streuner__: what's 10 ? |
| 20:02.01 | tarzeau | cycom: don't forget popularity-contest and vrms |
| 20:02.14 | streuner__ | abrotman: no idea |
| 20:02.28 | abrotman | !guidelines |
| 20:02.28 | dpkg | 1) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 2) Don't repeat questions. Read and grow; show growth in new questions. 3) Reading technical documentation is a skill, please persevere, it's worth it. 4) If your problem isn't solved, come back a few hours or days later. 5) Please use /msg to talk to the bots. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood, not here. 8) Don't use colours or bold, do not run scripts. 9) No Trolls. 10) see <msg> |
| 20:02.30 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 20:02.32 | streuner__ | !factinfo guideslines |
| 20:02.32 | abrotman | odd |
| 20:02.33 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as guideslines, streuner__ |
| 20:02.40 | streuner__ | !factinfo guidelines |
| 20:02.40 | dpkg | guidelines -- last modified at Sat Aug 9 15:49:24 2003 by LoRez!mike-ircfn@orcrist.ip6.milliways.cx; it has been requested 6612 times, last by abrotman, 12s ago. |
| 20:02.47 | cycom | tarzeau: huh? |
| 20:02.58 | mattybats | can someone tell me where to find out what dpkg's status abbreviations mean. i tried looking through man pages and didn't see it (probly just not looking hard enough) |
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| 20:03.02 | tarzeau | cycom: did you install that packages? |
| 20:03.03 | streuner__ | abrotman: well, ask LoRez |
| 20:03.15 | abrotman | streuner__: dpkg knows #10 |
| 20:03.29 | abrotman | ~guidelines |
| 20:03.30 | apt | 1) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 2) Don't repeat questions. Read and grow; show growth in new questions. 3) Reading technical documentation is a skill, please persevere, it's worth it. 4) If your problem isn't solved, come back a few hours or days later. 5) Please use /msg to talk to the bots. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood, not here. 8) Don't use ... |
| 20:03.30 | cycom | no. wtf are they? |
| 20:03.36 | abrotman | apt cuts it off |
| 20:03.40 | tarzeau | cycom: apt-cache show popularity-contest and vrms |
| 20:03.46 | cycom | dpkg popularity-contest |
| 20:03.47 | dpkg | popularity-contest is probably see popularity contest |
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| 20:04.02 | streuner__ | abrotman: apt as well |
| 20:04.10 | abrotman | dpkg is fine .. apt cuts it off |
| 20:04.11 | dpkg | abrotman: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 20:04.39 | cycom | oh! cool. |
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| 20:05.01 | abrotman | !popcon |
| 20:05.01 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
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| 20:05.21 | xelam|home | does ext3 store ACL permission in the FS, or in a NT way (somewhere else)? |
| 20:05.29 | abrotman | ok .. those graphs suck .. no legend |
| 20:05.34 | abrotman | oh .. i lied |
| 20:05.41 | streuner__ | abrotman: damn, i can't fix it |
| 20:05.44 | xelam|home | (or am I wrong about NT) |
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| 20:06.32 | abrotman | streuner__: can TimRiker? |
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| 20:07.30 | mattybats | oh the asci art :] |
| 20:07.32 | lamp | I have a new pc with debian sarge kernel 2.6.8.1-686-smp but he hangs somthemes between usb and usbcore. |
| 20:07.37 | abrotman | !moo |
| 20:07.37 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
| 20:07.38 | mattybats | man that's annoying |
| 20:08.04 | cycom | hrm. I need to think of a cool host name |
| 20:08.15 | tarzeau | cycom: iceberg |
| 20:08.24 | jasz | cycom: how about "mooer" |
| 20:08.26 | cycom | and name the other box Titatnic! |
| 20:08.27 | xelam|home | lamp: that's cute |
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| 20:08.36 | cycom | nah. something with cy in it |
| 20:08.50 | cycom | the box with the storage is cylo |
| 20:08.53 | jasz | cycom: "cybermoo" ? |
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| 20:09.10 | abrotman | titatnic ? |
| 20:09.22 | cycom | titanic. so I can't type for shit. sue me. |
| 20:09.25 | cycom | !moo |
| 20:09.25 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
| 20:09.30 | cycom | so there. |
| 20:09.38 | abrotman | cycom: best duo i've seen .. $ whois earthlink.net .. look at the dns server names |
| 20:10.02 | abrotman | i love that |
| 20:10.11 | nvz | dpkg: wb |
| 20:10.11 | dpkg | thanks, nvz. It's good to be back. |
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| 20:10.27 | abrotman | cycom: see it? |
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| 20:10.39 | cycom | I haven't gone yet |
| 20:10.41 | cycom | gimme a sec |
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| 20:10.43 | abrotman | well .. get on it |
| 20:10.45 | tobehz | haha |
| 20:10.45 | borius | is there a good anti-captcha lib? |
| 20:10.51 | abrotman | tobehz: like it? |
| 20:10.56 | tobehz | abrotman: :p |
| 20:11.13 | tobehz | i like that, but i don't like these hideous cpufreq scaling apps |
| 20:11.18 | tobehz | hardly even work1 :/ |
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| 20:11.31 | ernie | is anyone running multiple samba 3 instances on a single machine? smbd doesn't seem to care about the "private dir" parameter in my smb config |
| 20:11.46 | cycom | itchy and scratchy! lol |
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| 20:12.14 | ernie | cycom: our firewall cluster is called itchy and scratchy |
| 20:12.35 | abrotman | ernie: whois earthlink.net |
| 20:12.49 | abrotman | ernie: sounds like a #samba question |
| 20:13.22 | abrotman | ernie: why not bert and ernie? |
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| 20:13.47 | ernie | abrotman: well, it migth be a specific debian patch |
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| 20:14.02 | ernie | abrotman: another cluster is called tom and jerry ;) |
| 20:14.07 | abrotman | heh |
| 20:14.14 | tobehz | three stooges |
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| 20:14.19 | tobehz | larry, moe, and whoever |
| 20:14.20 | tobehz | @@ |
| 20:14.22 | abrotman | teletubbies ? |
| 20:14.26 | vulture | curly |
| 20:14.28 | abrotman | do thye have names ? |
| 20:14.28 | jasz | abrotman: argh! |
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| 20:14.39 | jasz | abrotman: gay1 gay2 gay3 and gay4 |
| 20:14.49 | abrotman | !gay |
| 20:14.49 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 20:14.49 | tkinias | hey there all... I've got an apt problem -- it's ignoring my /etc/apt/preferences and giving all releases priority 500, thus forcing an upgrade of everything to sid |
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| 20:15.13 | jasz | lol |
| 20:15.17 | abrotman | !lol |
| 20:15.17 | dpkg | lol is, like, Loser On Line, good work, you've just added your name to the ever-growing #debian LOL List. |
| 20:15.39 | abrotman | heh |
| 20:15.39 | tkinias | uh... this _is_ #debian, isn't it? |
| 20:15.49 | tarzeau | tkinias: yes, and the official even |
| 20:15.51 | abrotman | tkinias: did you do it right? |
| 20:15.54 | abrotman | !preferences |
| 20:15.56 | abrotman | !pinning |
| 20:15.56 | dpkg | somebody said pinning was 'man apt_preferences', or add testing and unstable lines to sources.list, create /etc/apt/preferences containing "Package: *\nPin: release a=testing\nPin-Priority: 900\n\nPackage: *\nPin: release o=Debian\nPin-Priority: -10\n", then apt-get install foo/unstable, or at http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/4/mail#1, or read http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200212/msg00659.html |
| 20:15.57 | jasz | tkinias: .. good job |
| 20:15.59 | abrotman | jeebus |
| 20:16.12 | tarzeau | be excellent to eachother is missing in the /topic |
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| 20:16.55 | crypt | Does Bet say Hi to those who join ? |
| 20:17.04 | r3v | seems that way |
| 20:17.12 | cycom | I considered strongbad, strongmad, and strongsad |
| 20:17.25 | abrotman | Bet? |
| 20:17.26 | tarzeau | abrotman: i don't have the access level needed |
| 20:17.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: i know .. neither do i :) |
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| 20:17.49 | tkinias | dpkg, I've been doing pinning for years -- I just was experimenting with apt-build and (without my changing /etc/apt/preferences) all releases are now pinned at 500; it should be (and has been) testing 500 and unstable 90 |
| 20:17.49 | dpkg | tkinias: that's too long |
| 20:17.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: maybe it's better if the topic doesn't blink |
| 20:18.07 | cycom | bet said a. |
| 20:18.10 | tkinias | dpkg, too long? |
| 20:18.11 | dpkg | tkinias: wish i knew |
| 20:18.14 | abrotman | tarzeau: heh |
| 20:18.14 | cycom | to me when I joined that is |
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| 20:18.19 | r3v | tkinias: dpkg is a bot |
| 20:18.32 | abrotman | dpkg: what are you |
| 20:18.32 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 20:18.34 | LoRez | tkinias: you're the dope of the day. |
| 20:18.42 | cycom | dkpg blootbot |
| 20:18.54 | tkinias | *doh* I haven't been here in a _long_ time... *blush* |
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| 20:19.05 | tarzeau | tkinias: define _long_ |
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| 20:19.22 | tarzeau | tkinias: musta been over 6 years, since i don't remember you |
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| 20:19.45 | jasz | tarzeau: you dont remember EVERYONE ... do you? you'd remember me... |
| 20:19.50 | tkinias | tarzeau, OK, maybe hyperbolic... I was never a regular but I used to hang out when I first started with Debian a couple of years ago |
| 20:19.50 | abrotman | tarzeau: his nick seems familiar |
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| 20:20.17 | abrotman | tkinias: do you hang in another channel .. or rwite articles somewhere? |
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| 20:20.17 | tkinias | I don't come here often because usually Debian Just Works :) |
| 20:20.20 | abrotman | maybe a DD ? |
| 20:20.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: he certainly doesn't use GNUstep |
| 20:20.50 | tkinias | abrotman, #wikipedia sometimes... I used to be active on a few W3C lists |
| 20:20.54 | abrotman | tarzeau: heh |
| 20:21.06 | abrotman | tkinias: dunno .. your nick seems familiar |
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| 20:21.44 | MichaelSaunders | anyone had experience with curl |
| 20:22.00 | tkinias | MichaelSaunders, sure |
| 20:22.03 | rellik | is there a program I can use to monitor inet transfer speeds? I think one of my cat5 cables is bad and I wanna do some testing |
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| 20:22.09 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, a few times. I usually use wget |
| 20:22.10 | strubbel | yeeha |
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| 20:22.16 | ribnitz | hello there. |
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| 20:22.17 | abrotman | rellik: ntop |
| 20:22.29 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, but curl is good for tricky stuff |
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| 20:22.58 | gentooguy | I want to upgrade my kernel to kernel-image-2.6.8-10, I have kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686. However, when using apt-get or dselect I don't seem to find the package of the kernel I am looking for |
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| 20:23.05 | MichaelSaunders | EdibleText: I need to download a webpage with all its images. Can you tell me the correct syntaxt |
| 20:23.07 | tkinias | so... anyone know how to force apt to use /etc/apt/preferences? I just scp'd it from a box where it's working properly and it's still being ignored |
| 20:23.13 | greycat | gentooguy: probably not in sarge yet. |
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| 20:23.31 | Kupal[] | BET is onjoin spam. not sure if its this channel |
| 20:23.31 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, have you considered suing wget? much easier |
| 20:23.31 | ribnitz | "Bet" looks like a bot.. advertising turkish phone sex. |
| 20:23.32 | gentooguy | greycat: you sure? because my friend is running that kernel |
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| 20:24.00 | smj | Greets |
| 20:24.16 | MichaelSaunders | EdibleText: Can you give me some syntact |
| 20:24.17 | cycom | where would my domainname be? |
| 20:24.17 | greycat | !depends kernel-image-2.6-386 sarge |
| 20:24.19 | r3v | gentooguy: 2.6.8-10 or 2.6.10? |
| 20:24.22 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, -np -m http://example.com/path/to/webpage.html |
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| 20:24.30 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, wget -np -m http://example.com/path/to/webpage.html |
| 20:24.36 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6-386: depends on kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 20:24.39 | MichaelSaunders | EdibleText: What about this url |
| 20:24.40 | MichaelSaunders | http://inweb.tsn.cc:8080/onebill/bill/bill-info.jsp?txtAccountNumber=45516&Bill=50836 |
| 20:24.42 | dale_gribble | hey guys quick question: i'm referencing $HOME/.credentials in my fstab profile but its saying it can't find it if i try to mount it. Any ideas? |
| 20:24.46 | Kupal[] | samba question.. I have a world writable share, i add or delete files, i don't see the change unless i refresh the share in windows.. anyone offer some conforting advice? |
| 20:24.54 | EdibleText | heh |
| 20:24.59 | greycat | fstab isn't a shell script, so it doesn't read $HOME |
| 20:25.10 | dale_gribble | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.19 | ribnitz | Suppose I have some media files i want to distribute over the household, what the most comfortable (plattform independent) solution? |
| 20:25.20 | greycat | or rather, it doesn't perform a variable substitution on it |
| 20:25.24 | dale_gribble | would there be a way to get it to read per user's directory? |
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| 20:25.41 | Lee__ | ribnitz: depends on the media |
| 20:25.44 | greycat | dale_gribble: dunno... what's an "fstab profile"? |
| 20:25.51 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, try it ... but quote the url or escape the ?s and &s |
| 20:26.07 | dale_gribble | fstab file |
| 20:26.08 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, and =s |
| 20:26.09 | ribnitz | Lee__: atm its oggs and mp3s, soon to be dvd-images. |
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| 20:26.26 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, is it http or https |
| 20:26.35 | MichaelSaunders | http |
| 20:26.41 | greycat | dale_gribble: so you want fred to be able to mount "/foo" and nancy can mount "/bar"? or something like that? |
| 20:26.47 | MichaelSaunders | where is the s= |
| 20:26.54 | ribnitz | Lee__: should be foolproof enough so my grandmother can get a stream.. |
| 20:27.01 | Lee__ | buy a tivo |
| 20:27.03 | dale_gribble | sure yeah, but i want it to read from each /home/<user>/.credentials |
| 20:27.15 | greycat | to read what? |
| 20:27.15 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, you need to escape characters like '?' '&' and '=' |
| 20:27.17 | Lee__ | Linux doesn't fit into the grandmother metaphor very well |
| 20:27.29 | Lee__ | s/Linux/PCs/ |
| 20:27.30 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, but just double quote the url |
| 20:27.32 | greycat | Lee__: it does if grandson lives with her and administers it |
| 20:27.35 | ribnitz | Lee__: well my parents can use it. |
| 20:27.37 | dale_gribble | the username password in the .credentials file for the samba share |
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| 20:27.49 | Lee__ | mythTV is supposed to be user friendly |
| 20:27.59 | Lee__ | there's a bootable CD installation |
| 20:28.01 | ribnitz | greycat: will probably get my mother an mac mini.. |
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| 20:28.25 | greycat | dale_gribble: I don't know. maybe someone in #samba might. |
| 20:28.25 | ribnitz | greycat: thats almost linux. |
| 20:28.38 | FraudulentPeanut | WHAT KERNEL DOES SARGE USE? |
| 20:28.44 | dale_gribble | thx |
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| 20:28.49 | Lee__ | OMG uname -a! |
| 20:28.52 | greycat | TWO DOT FOUR DOT SOMETHING AND TWO DOT SIX DOT SOMETHING |
| 20:28.56 | ribnitz | FraudulentPeanut: dont yell. 2.6.8 or 2.4.27 I think |
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| 20:29.10 | greycat | or whatever you install on it. |
| 20:29.11 | ribnitz | YELLING IS PHUN.. |
| 20:29.19 | FraudulentPeanut | i didnt mean to yell...sry i acidentally had cap locks on |
| 20:29.19 | FieldySnuts | spelling like a hax0r is too |
| 20:29.24 | tarzeau | heh |
| 20:29.26 | ethicsgradient | Hey, I need a hand. My company just bought me a new dell workstation and I'm trying to install debian on it. I've never had debian install trouble before, but this machine has an SATA hard drive. I got the new beta 4 debian installer, but it won't recognize my cdrom drive (phillips dvd rw +/-)+ |
| 20:29.30 | greycat | but I think it can no longer run a 2.0.x kernel. must be 2.2.x or higher. |
| 20:29.42 | Lee__ | ethicsgradient: SMP machine? |
| 20:29.46 | MichaelSaunders | EdibleText: How can I make it not create a dir called inweb.tsn.cc:8080 etc |
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| 20:29.48 | ethicsgradient | Lee__, no |
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| 20:29.54 | ethicsgradient | Dell Precision 370 |
| 20:30.08 | ribnitz | ethicsgradient: what SATA controller? |
| 20:30.11 | Lee__ | damn. there's a known but in the SMP kernel for sarge. try loading ide_generic manually |
| 20:30.12 | FraudulentPeanut | what is the apt-get command for downloading the kernel |
| 20:30.20 | Lee__ | FraudulentPeanut: man apt-get |
| 20:30.23 | ethicsgradient | ribnitz, how do I determine? |
| 20:30.24 | greycat | FraudulentPeanut: man apt-cache, also |
| 20:30.26 | gentooguy | r3v: sorry got a phone call, I would like the image for 2.6.8-10 |
| 20:30.26 | cire | sorry, this is off-topic. What is the maximum length for a ps/2 mouse or keyboard cable? |
| 20:30.29 | tarzeau | greycat: no kernel images with 2.2.x are made anymore by debian :( |
| 20:30.37 | greycat | tarzeau: but you can make them yourself |
| 20:30.46 | tarzeau | greycat: must be fun on really slow hardware |
| 20:30.58 | ethicsgradient | Lee__ ide_generic? |
| 20:30.59 | ribnitz | ethicsgradient: let the boot messages scroll by, or use dmesg, and then grep for sata, SATA SaTa or similar. |
| 20:31.02 | chealer | gentooguy: check your syntax, you're looking for package kernel-image-2.6.8-2-fooarch |
| 20:31.02 | tarzeau | 32 mb memory starts the low-memory d-i |
| 20:31.06 | greycat | tarzeau: no, just boring :) |
| 20:31.12 | ethicsgradient | Lee__, it's very odd, the old debian installer sees my cd drive fine, but can't see the HD |
| 20:31.12 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, thats what the -m option does... mirror without it you just get the html page. Im too lazy too read the wget man page. |
| 20:31.17 | r3v | gentooguy: 9 is the newest I see |
| 20:31.26 | Lee__ | ethicsgradient: I had to load it manually on a Compaq dual Xeon to get the IDE but recognized. |
| 20:31.27 | ethicsgradient | Lee__, the new one, which people say will work with the HD, can't see the cd drive :( |
| 20:31.35 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, that way you get the pics you want |
| 20:31.42 | Lee__ | s/but/bus/ :) |
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| 20:31.43 | MichaelSaunders | ok |
| 20:31.52 | MichaelSaunders | EdibleText: I can live with that then |
| 20:31.53 | chealer | !info kernel-image-2.6.8-2-i386 sarrge |
| 20:32.00 | ribnitz | ethicsgradient: also try expert26.. also had that prob that it didnt find the cd drive it booted from. |
| 20:32.00 | gentooguy | r3v: strange my friend seems to have a newer one I also saw 9 but I couldn't find for my platform |
| 20:32.07 | greycat | chealer: too many r's |
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| 20:32.23 | EdibleText | MichaelSaunders, wget is flexible there may be an option... |
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| 20:32.31 | ethicsgradient | ribnitz, Lee__ ok, let me reboot it and get some info |
| 20:32.35 | r3v | gentooguy: does he build his own... cause you can number them whatever you want :) |
| 20:32.37 | chealer | !info kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 sarrge |
| 20:32.46 | greycat | chealer: *still* too many r's |
| 20:32.53 | simonm | Anybody can recommend a good wma2mp3 converter? |
| 20:32.54 | gentooguy | r3v: no AFAIK he is using an image |
| 20:33.06 | chealer | !info kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 sarge |
| 20:33.10 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386: (Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on 386.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.8-12 (sarge), Packaged size: 13720 kB, Installed size: 41240 kB |
| 20:33.12 | greycat | simonm: get the original CD and re-rip it. |
| 20:33.14 | chealer | sorry double typo |
| 20:33.24 | gentooguy | the exact package name is kernel-image-2.6.8-10, I peeked at his pkg.lst |
| 20:33.31 | ribnitz | simonm: forget wma, its a broken format. |
| 20:33.40 | r3v | gentooguy: does he have none official sources? |
| 20:33.48 | gentooguy | don't know |
| 20:33.54 | gentooguy | he is using testing |
| 20:33.58 | r3v | gentooguy: check into that |
| 20:34.00 | gentooguy | ok |
| 20:34.01 | gentooguy | thanks |
| 20:34.13 | simonm | greycat, ribnitz, thank you for your hints, but sometimes men don't have an option |
| 20:34.14 | ethicsgradient | nothing in dmesg about sata |
| 20:34.16 | r3v | gentooguy: I know debian people that use unbuntu sources for xorg |
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| 20:34.28 | greycat | simonm: or just don't listen to that particular song. |
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| 20:34.35 | r3v | gentooguy: and i have like 10 for specific apts that rn't in official |
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| 20:34.36 | chealer | gentooguy: it's not newer |
| 20:34.40 | greycat | simonm: you *always* have a choice. |
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| 20:35.07 | ethicsgradient | ribnitz, Lee__ nothing about sata in dmesg output |
| 20:35.21 | J_P | anyone can tell me what is this error ? : jurere kernel: reiserfs[6352]: assertion !( is_reusable (s, block, 1) == 0 ) failed at fs/reiserfs/bitmap.c:335:reiserfs_free_block: vs-4071: can not free such block |
| 20:35.26 | jem77 | I think I have something messed up. Is it normal to see 'ypbind' and 'sudo' entries in the /var/log/apache/access.log file? FWIW I have tcpspy enabled. |
| 20:35.44 | Lee__ | ethicsgradient: I misunderstood. I though the SATA bus was detected but the old skool IDE bus wasn't |
| 20:35.44 | simonm | greycat, well, when I have the choice between converting the song(s) or not listening to them I'd not choose the latter |
| 20:35.55 | ethicsgradient | Lee__ seems nothing is detected |
| 20:36.04 | ethicsgradient | Lee__ am I just hosed? |
| 20:36.11 | Lee__ | no hard disks or optical drives? |
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| 20:36.42 | ricky_clarkson | !pdftotext |
| 20:36.43 | EdibleText | simonm, mplayer may play wma id compiled with the proper libs or supplied with the proper codecs |
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| 20:37.29 | Xaqueth | Is there a choice in Debian installation whetever format /dev/hda or not? I tried reading docs but answer wasn't clear to me |
| 20:37.33 | ethicsgradient | Lee__ I don't see any...I was messing with a knoppix cd as well, hoping to get something going that way, it didn't fare much better |
| 20:37.35 | r3v | simonm: you can't play wma? |
| 20:37.47 | greycat | simonm: I'd choose the former. |
| 20:38.00 | greycat | well, maybe not. depends on the song. |
| 20:38.20 | Lee__ | ethicsgradient: try lspci. look for the SATA device and search around for a chipset. also check bugs.debian.org for your kernel package and the SATA chipset. |
| 20:38.34 | simonm | r3v, I don't want to |
| 20:38.48 | EdibleText | simonm, can you play it at all? |
| 20:38.49 | r3v | simonm: what u trying to do? |
| 20:38.57 | Lee__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.16 | simonm | EdibleText, I've not tried it; xmms can not |
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| 20:39.32 | ribnitz | ethicsgradient: 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller (rev 03) |
| 20:39.43 | kyle__ | Can anyone recommend a simple secure networked filesystem? Right now it looks like one server, only a few clients, but needs to be secure...not the data, but the ports sitting open on my server. Any recommendations? Or is NFS safe? |
| 20:39.44 | ribnitz | (from lspci) |
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| 20:40.13 | name90 | If i use aptitude and subsribe to kernel-image-2.6-686, then when i go to update all if a new kernel has come out the new kernel will be downloaded because that package would depend on it. Aptitude sees that the old kernel image was installed for dependancy reasons and no packages still depend on it so it sets it for removal. |
| 20:40.14 | name90 | This seems to work fine as the packages are (un)installed in the correct order, but the packages seem to want to scare me into thinking that this is highly dangerous. Is this really dangerous or does aptitude always do the right thing in this case? Sorry for the long post. |
| 20:40.14 | ribnitz | kyle__: nfs over ssh. |
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| 20:40.54 | ribnitz | kyle__: next best in security is AFS, with partial implementation and alot more complexity |
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| 20:41.25 | kyle__ | ribnitz, alright, i'll look at nfs/ssh |
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| 20:41.41 | invsblduck | hmm... i just modprobe'd usb-storage.o and plugged in an external USB mass storage drive. anyone know what it would show up as under /dev ? |
| 20:41.47 | ethicsgradient | Lee__ is lspci available to me from the installer? |
| 20:41.48 | invsblduck | apparently not hdb |
| 20:41.57 | r3v | invsblduck: /dev/sd?1 |
| 20:42.05 | tarzeau | ethicsgradient: cat /proc/pci |
| 20:42.11 | EdibleText | invsblduck, dmesg should give some details |
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| 20:42.21 | mick_laptop | does anyone know of a utility like pam_passwdqc (to help users come up with decent passwords) |
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| 20:42.34 | Lee__ | ethicsgradient: no but it's on the knoppix CD |
| 20:42.36 | ethicsgradient | cat: /proc/pci no such file or directory |
| 20:42.36 | thenuke | what do I need to get my harddisk sleep? I have set power management on from bios, but still have to do it with hdparm |
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| 20:42.45 | tarzeau | thenuke: ide or scsi? |
| 20:42.50 | tarzeau | thenuke: -Y device |
| 20:43.05 | thenuke | tarzeau: ide, yes.. hdparm works.. but I want them to sleep without my interaction |
| 20:43.06 | mick_laptop | i just want an app that lets you type in some text and it will tell you if it is a secure password or not |
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| 20:43.15 | Lee__ | mick_laptop: cracklib? |
| 20:43.17 | invsblduck | EdibleText: hmmm.. looks like it was in fact hdb -- with a bunch of I/O errors |
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| 20:43.24 | tarzeau | thenuke: there's a laptop deamon, should also work on a normal pc |
| 20:43.26 | Lee__ | but if you have to ask, it's probably not a good password |
| 20:43.31 | mick_laptop | Lee__: ya something like that |
| 20:43.33 | invsblduck | r3v: looks like it's trying to use a scsi emulation layer... |
| 20:43.47 | invsblduck | ide-scsi: hdb: unsupported command in request queue (0) |
| 20:43.50 | tarzeau | thenuke: noflushd - allow idle hard disks to spin down |
| 20:43.53 | thenuke | tarzeau: ok, I thought that I might need some kind of demon, do you know the name of that daemon? |
| 20:43.55 | greycat | Aieee! More work for me. |
| 20:43.59 | ethicsgradient | rebooting the knoppix to see what I can get from its lspci, if anything |
| 20:44.11 | greycat | "It has been decided that it will be required for ALL staff and fellows to have the Linux Navigator ..." |
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| 20:44.19 | ribnitz | invsblduck: dont use ide-scsi with 2.6.x kernels |
| 20:44.25 | Lee__ | greycat: excellent! |
| 20:44.31 | invsblduck | ribnitz: never touched 2.6 |
| 20:44.31 | r3v | invsblduck: yeah... i use several different usb mass storage devices... it'll map to the first unused /dev/sd... usually sda unless you have others |
| 20:44.34 | Lee__ | that's made by Lincoln, right? |
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| 20:44.40 | rellik | I tried to 'make' something and it said "curses.h: file not found"... any idea which package has curses? |
| 20:44.45 | greycat | Lee__: no, it's made by us. |
| 20:45.04 | Lee__ | you make a car that runs Linux!? |
| 20:45.04 | mick_laptop | Lee__: cracklib used to have a program called "goodpass" or something like taht |
| 20:45.05 | greycat | rellik: libncurses5-dev. That's your one freebie. From now on, read the FAQ. |
| 20:45.06 | ribnitz | r3v: any idea how far the mapping goes? |
| 20:45.26 | r3v | ribnitz: for what? |
| 20:45.29 | invsblduck | r3v: interesting. i just executed `fdisk -l /dev/sda` and the access light is blinking |
| 20:45.31 | supaman | rellik: you can use apt-file to search for specific files ... |
| 20:45.35 | rellik | greycat, heh thanks |
| 20:45.47 | name90 | lee__: is this for some sort of application, to warn users if the password they gave in insecure? Or just for an individual password? |
| 20:45.51 | invsblduck | r3v: looks like /var/log/kern.log is giving me a bunch of [nasty looking] garbage |
| 20:45.59 | name90 | s/in/is/ |
| 20:46.03 | ribnitz | r3v: I want a smart daemon (hw monitoring) over it, but it fails telling me basically that sda is no true scsi device. |
| 20:46.12 | EdibleText | invsblduck, how many hardrive in that box? |
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| 20:46.17 | rellik | supaman, thanks, didn't know |
| 20:46.41 | invsblduck | EdibleText: it's a laptop, so just one ide drive (hda) and one cdrw using ide-scsi (scd0?) |
| 20:47.07 | r3v | ribnitz: don't remember the app right now... but there is an app that tells you (that's how I found it was sda) |
| 20:47.10 | ethicsgradient | ok, from lspci in knoppix with linux kernel 2.4: 0000:00:1f.2 Class 0106: Intel Corp I/O Controller Hub SATA cc=raid |
| 20:47.35 | Lee__ | name90: what, cracklib? |
| 20:47.43 | ethicsgradient | Lee__ is that what you were looking for? |
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| 20:47.48 | Kupal[] | anyone know how i can rescue boot a md0 drive (software raid) |
| 20:47.59 | Lee__ | ethicsgradient: yeah, so the device is there, it just doesn't seem to have a driver. |
| 20:48.00 | ribnitz | ethicsgradient: anything there saying ICH6? |
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| 20:48.20 | invsblduck | EdibleText: looks like the drive is in fact at /dev/sda but i can't list the partition table.... it's just reiterating hopeless messages in /var/log/kern.log :^) |
| 20:48.25 | ribnitz | ethicsgradient: or ICH5 |
| 20:48.33 | ethicsgradient | ribnitz, no ICH anything in the lspci output |
| 20:48.49 | ethicsgradient | Lee__ ok, what is the next step then? |
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| 20:49.09 | invsblduck | please... please, stoppp!! you win, you win! |
| 20:49.32 | invsblduck | alright i'm done. |
| 20:49.36 | invsblduck | thanks |
| 20:49.42 | Ferret | . |
| 20:49.57 | Lee__ | besides crying? check google's Linux section for that chipset. Forums, mailing lists. I don't know anything more really. If the driver isn't in the kernel you either have to find it or it may not exist. I don't know any thing more. |
| 20:50.02 | ribnitz | USB-storarge: either its usb2, then it is slow or its not, then its sluggish? |
| 20:50.08 | frag | how do i use dpkg bot to search ? |
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| 20:50.27 | supaman | frag: just /msg dpkg help |
| 20:50.42 | MichaelSaunders | ps2pdf13 bill-info.ps bill-info.pdf |
| 20:50.42 | MichaelSaunders | Error: /invalidfont in findfont |
| 20:50.47 | ethicsgradient | Lee__ thanks for the help. Bummer. |
| 20:50.49 | invsblduck | ribnitz: me? or someone else usb-storage? |
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| 20:50.55 | MichaelSaunders | anyone seen that |
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| 20:51.13 | ribnitz | MichaelSaunders: got the ghostscript fonts? |
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| 20:51.39 | frag | supaman: i dont see anything on search? |
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| 20:52.19 | ribnitz | how would I get rid of all kde libs? |
| 20:52.24 | greycat | !remove kde |
| 20:52.25 | dpkg | hmm... remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 20:52.40 | supaman | frag: uhh .... there is a search option there ... |
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| 20:53.15 | greycat | frag: /msg dpkg search |
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| 20:53.37 | frag | greycat: i need to search for something in a package, not a package :( |
| 20:53.47 | X-Treme | how do I set the init= parameter ? after removing lilo and installing grub I get kernel panic: no init found |
| 20:53.54 | greycat | frag: /msg dpkg search |
| 20:53.56 | ribnitz | greycat: yep. 54MB less. kinda not worth it just for k3m. |
| 20:54.08 | X-Treme | i've tried adding init=2 in grub edit mode but that didn't work... |
| 20:54.11 | smj | Hey folks. How do I pass arguments to a cp command that's being executed by find? I know this is probably something really simple, but find keeps interpreting the paths passed to cp as being passed to find. Any ideas short of just scripting the thing? |
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| 20:54.16 | greycat | 2 is not a valid program. |
| 20:54.28 | frag | greycat: tht cant be it its not finding it >< |
| 20:54.29 | supaman | frag: try /msg dpkg find filename |
| 20:54.34 | greycat | !SEARCH |
| 20:54.35 | dpkg | hmm... search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing> |
| 20:54.38 | ribnitz | smj: mabn find, {} |
| 20:54.41 | frag | supaman: ah k 1 sec |
| 20:54.42 | greycat | READ THAT, YOU FUCK-WIT. |
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| 20:55.11 | ribnitz | greycat: I am illierate. where's the version with the images? ;) |
| 20:55.17 | deadcat | are there any live cd for ppc? |
| 20:55.22 | Xenguy | smj: find + xargs doesn't work? |
| 20:55.31 | smj | ribnitz: It's been years, and I've probably forgotten much, looks like it's time to give it a reread. :-) |
| 20:55.37 | greycat | smj: find . -type f -exec cp {} /var/tmp \; |
| 20:55.51 | X-Treme | I tried with init=/bin/sh too.. .no luck |
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| 20:56.22 | smj | greycat: Ok, now I feel like an idiot. I see what I was typing incorrectly. I was transposing the destination filename and the \; |
| 20:56.25 | ribnitz | X-Treme: e for edit, then init=/bin/bash, then boot |
| 20:56.26 | smj | greycat: Thanks greycat |
| 20:56.48 | bucky | frag, dpkg -c <packagename.deb> will tell you what's in it |
| 20:56.53 | X-Treme | ribnitz: no luck ;-) |
| 20:56.55 | smj | Xenguy: Hadn't moved on to using xargs yet. I'm still in the "I know I've done this!" mode. |
| 20:57.17 | Lo_Meinix | Anyone a whiz with compiling Alsa? I tried to compile alsa-utils-1.0.8 and get mv: can't stat t-ja.gmo. Searching google reveals about 3 nice chinese language sites ;( |
| 20:57.18 | X-Treme | should I put it in a new line or append to the kernel line |
| 20:57.28 | Lee__ | Lo_Meinix: apt-get install alsa-base |
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| 20:58.08 | Lee__ | dpkg: alsa |
| 20:58.08 | dpkg | it has been said that alsa is On Sarge, to use ALSA, ensure you have discover1 1.7.2 or higher, then apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils. You may need to run alsaconf too. No more faffing about with OSS modules. Remember to tell your applications and libraries to use alsa, to get any benefit. |
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| 20:58.18 | MichaelSaunders | I install gsfonts and still getting the same message any ideas |
| 20:58.19 | MichaelSaunders | ill-info.pdf |
| 20:58.19 | MichaelSaunders | Error: /invalidfont in findfont |
| 20:58.19 | MichaelSaunders | Operand stack: |
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| 20:58.29 | Devi0s | What command will let me search for all files containing both words, 'word1' and 'word2'?, the following is insufficient because the two words must be on the same line and I want two words ANYWHERE in the file that are not necessarily on the same line: find . -type f -print | xargs grep -i 'word1' | grep -i 'word2' |
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| 20:58.43 | deadcat | Devi0s: grep -r |
| 20:58.47 | nvz | I just got to redesign the latch on the gate at the top of the stairs because the kid figured out how to operate it.. it was fun.. there's no way she can get past my low tech modification |
| 20:59.01 | Gathond | Devi0s: word1|word2 |
| 20:59.09 | Lo_Meinix | lee__ thanks but, I'm a little far to be using the deb package now. |
| 20:59.14 | Gathond | Devi0s: the | might need to be escaped |
| 20:59.22 | Lo_Meinix | I'll give it a shot if I can't figure this out. |
| 20:59.23 | Lee__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:59.40 | deadcat | Gathond: no. grep -ri "a|b" |
| 20:59.41 | Lee__ | FWIW I have ALSA + JACK running with sarge and a 2.6 kernel |
| 20:59.45 | nvz | the old motion of lifting the latch just makes my lock harder to operate *evil grin* |
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| 21:00.16 | smj | greycat: Can I get you anything today? Glass of wine? Tea? Cake? AK-102 assault rifle? |
| 21:00.37 | Gathond | deadcat: no to what, how does your regex differ principially from mine? |
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| 21:01.06 | deadcat | Gathond: i dont know, is it bigger than a sand box? |
| 21:01.09 | Coke | Hey all! Is there any good AUTH-log checker that will notify me if the log contains strange entries. For instance, this afternoon there were 30+ failed logins from the same IP, but with various names and words as login. It looks like an obvious attempt to find valid user accounts. I blocked that IP, but it was a total coincidence that I checked the auth log. Any advice? |
| 21:01.19 | Gathond | deadcat: no:) |
| 21:01.25 | deadcat | (= |
| 21:01.26 | greycat | Devi0s: grep -l -r word1 /somewhere | xargs grep -l word2 /dev/null # untested. |
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| 21:01.33 | KungFu | hi |
| 21:01.48 | cahoot | Coke: ssh logins? |
| 21:01.50 | greycat | Devi0s: also note that it'll fail on files with whitespace in their names. |
| 21:01.54 | KungFu | anyone know a tool that can convert avi(mpeg4) to SVCD(mpg2) |
| 21:02.06 | Lee__ | Coke: use good passwords, disable root login in sshd_config use logwatch to email you daily reports. |
| 21:02.22 | mattcamp | Does anyone know why MySQL 4.1.x is still in experimental? According to frehsmeat, MySQL 4.1.x is a production branch now. |
| 21:02.24 | greycat | KungFu: mplayer/mencoder |
| 21:02.28 | hetore | KungFu: maybe transcode can |
| 21:02.30 | EdibleText | KungFu, mencoder does most anything |
| 21:02.38 | Coke | cahoot: yep. |
| 21:02.47 | KungFu | transcode failed, but $? gave 0 |
| 21:02.52 | cafuego | mattcamp: According to Microsoft, Win2K3 is also not beta. But we all know how stable it is. |
| 21:02.57 | Coke | Lee__: ah, logwatch. sounds interresting. naturally, I've already done everything else you suggested. |
| 21:03.00 | greycat | KungFu: complain to the developers |
| 21:03.01 | cahoot | Coke: AFAIK it's a worm - pops up from time to time |
| 21:03.10 | Coke | cahoot: "worm" ? |
| 21:03.50 | strubbel | Devi0s: what about using awk? |
| 21:03.51 | deadcat | anyone having trouble patching bootsplash on 2.6.10? |
| 21:04.03 | Devi0s | strubbel, if i knew how... heh |
| 21:04.15 | mattcamp | cafuego: Hmm, I didn't know MySQL was *that* bad. |
| 21:04.21 | strubbel | Devi0s: ...with xargs...uno momento |
| 21:04.43 | soften | yeah mysql and "windows 2003", what a pair |
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| 21:05.03 | thenuke | blah, the drives dont want to sleep longer than 15seconds :I |
| 21:05.20 | EdibleText | windows 2010 " Im afraid I cant do that.." |
| 21:06.25 | cafuego | mattcamp: it's not, but until it compiled and runs Ok on all 12-odd debin arches, it won't b going anywhere fast, I think. |
| 21:06.44 | X-Treme | anybody with grub that can check for init= entries in menu.lst ? |
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| 21:07.00 | smj | greycat: Welp, I'm outta here. Back to work. |
| 21:07.02 | cafuego | init= entries? |
| 21:07.11 | deadcat | does this look ok? cdrecord dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdc blank=fast |
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| 21:07.36 | Lee__ | yeah, that'll work. |
| 21:07.41 | Coke | deadcat: why don't you let the command check it? |
| 21:07.49 | cafuego | Not if hdc is not a cdrw <heh> |
| 21:07.54 | Lee__ | I've done it without the ATAPI |
| 21:07.55 | cahoot | deadcat: atapi is implicit if you use /dev/hdc |
| 21:08.00 | gentooguy | Does anyone have an ATI 7500 Radeon Mobility Graphics card properly working with Debian? meaning DRI support as well |
| 21:08.10 | Lo_Meinix | Lee__ for a sound channel it's awfully quiet in #alsa |
| 21:08.13 | deadcat | cahoot: meaning dev=ATAPI is good enough? |
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| 21:08.22 | cafuego | deadcat: No, dev=/dev/hdc |
| 21:08.26 | deadcat | oh |
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| 21:08.27 | Coke | gentooguy: do you think that anyone has every had an ATI 7500 working in Debian? |
| 21:08.28 | X-Treme | my kernel says kernel panic : no init found, and since all the grub entries give that msg, even the ones I know should work, I figure i'm missing something in the grub configuration |
| 21:08.34 | Lee__ | Lo_Meinix: maybe they're all in #lad |
| 21:08.49 | deadcat | cool. rarely use cdrw since switching to 2.6 hehe |
| 21:08.53 | X-Treme | and a lot of howto on the www says to enter init="something" in the grub configuration |
| 21:08.57 | gentooguy | Coke: what? i didn't understand your sentence |
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| 21:09.17 | cahoot | Coke: http://lists.sans.org/pipermail/list/2004-July/048736.html |
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| 21:09.24 | Coke | gentooguy: do you think that there might be someone out there, in the entire world, who runs Debian AND owns an ATI 7500 AND has it working? |
| 21:09.25 | Lee__ | Lo_Meinix: what functionality is missing for you in the sarge alsa packages? |
| 21:09.50 | deadcat | Coke: ya. my ibook |
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| 21:10.19 | rtjkg | How can i make an exact image of a cd? |
| 21:10.22 | gentooguy | yeah I am sure but I am having trouble getting DRI support with that card so I wanted to know if someone could maybe let me know what they did to get DRI support for that card |
| 21:10.27 | Lee__ | X-Treme: init=/bin/bash maybe? |
| 21:10.45 | hetore | OH making my mind slow, thats why i dont fuck with the big four-oh |
| 21:10.50 | deadcat | rtjkg: dd |
| 21:10.51 | Lo_Meinix | Lee Just trying to get sound to work. It wasn't working before even though my sound card is supported as of the latest list at alsa.org. Figured I'd compile an dinstall the newest alsa |
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| 21:11.13 | Lo_Meinix | Lee everthing compiled cept alsa-utils |
| 21:11.14 | Coke | gentooguy: why don't you ask the question you REALLY want an answer for instead? |
| 21:11.19 | greycat | rtjkg: cdrdao copy |
| 21:11.22 | rtjkg | deadcat so like dd if=/cdrom of=myimaeg.iso ? |
| 21:11.25 | Coke | gentooguy: because, the answer to your question is "yes" |
| 21:11.30 | X-Treme | Lee__, maybe but I'm not sure where to put it, and passing init=/bin/bash didn't work in the grub boot menu |
| 21:11.31 | deadcat | rtjkg: works to me. |
| 21:11.35 | citral | gentooguy: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
| 21:11.45 | greycat | or if you meant a copy *on disk* so you can share it on bittorrent, then yes, dd will work. |
| 21:11.50 | gentooguy | citral: thanks |
| 21:11.57 | Coke | cahoot: that didn't help me understand what you meant anyway. |
| 21:12.01 | rtjkg | ok thanks |
| 21:12.02 | KungFu | mencoder cannot do mpeg2. |
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| 21:12.22 | Coke | cahoot: it's some sort of organised crack effort? |
| 21:12.24 | deadcat | greycat: hes not coming back. |
| 21:12.25 | greycat | KungFu: ask #mplayer |
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| 21:12.51 | KungFu | thx |
| 21:13.06 | oskie | mplayer is the trashiest player, yet it supports the most formats |
| 21:13.21 | cahoot | Coke: some script at play yes - don't know how organized it is |
| 21:13.24 | greycat | ribnitz: you used the wrong definition of "latest". |
| 21:13.26 | Coke | oskie: "trashiest"? |
| 21:13.28 | greycat | er. |
| 21:13.36 | greycat | richih: you used the wrong definition of "latest". |
| 21:13.42 | EdibleText | oskie, trashy, like a whore who does it all |
| 21:13.45 | Lo_Meinix | oskie: it does a great job rendering image |
| 21:13.46 | EdibleText | ? |
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| 21:14.00 | Coke | cahoot: well. yes, ofcourse. people don't do these things by hand, so it's obviously an automated attempt to find a random user account accessible via SSH |
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| 21:14.10 | oskie | Coke: it segfaults when you stress test it, the code is kind of trashy... or ad hoc :) |
| 21:14.14 | RichiH | greycat: afaict, there is only one :) |
| 21:14.22 | oskie | Lo_Meinix: I agree |
| 21:14.31 | greycat | RichiH: clearly it means "the last version that existed at the time of the last upload of this kernel-latest-2.6-i386 package, unless the maintainer was just a lazy git", not "the newest kernel in the whole kernel.org release tree" |
| 21:14.41 | strubbel | Devi0s: ok...got it |
| 21:14.52 | Coke | cahoot: in either case, I'll block their IP's and if they persist on port scanning and connection attempts I'll find out if they are in Sweden. If so, I will file a police report and the ISP will remove their Internet access within a couple of days. :) |
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| 21:14.55 | RichiH | greycat: heh |
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| 21:15.28 | RichiH | greycat: so you are saying i should not even bother to file a bug? :) |
| 21:15.31 | Coke | oskie: perhaps, but mplayer is the most configurable player. |
| 21:15.42 | Devi0s | strubbel, this will actually work: find -type f | xargs grep -il word1 | xargs grep -il word2 |
| 21:15.47 | nite613 | coke: Those login attempts are very common everywhere on the net |
| 21:15.50 | npx | xine is more "free" and has better frontends though |
| 21:15.51 | doub | Coke: they can be using an open proxy, that would not be an easy task |
| 21:15.56 | jaldhar | if Debian were to distribute CDs at linuxworld, do you think normal average users would want woody or sarge rc2 netinst? |
| 21:15.57 | npx | kaffeine almost approaches usability |
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| 21:16.10 | npx | that said, I use mplayer |
| 21:16.15 | soften | desktop users would want sarge rc2 netinst |
| 21:16.38 | Coke | nite613: I don't care how common they are, they will desist or die. |
| 21:16.43 | strubbel | Devi0s: oh, yes |
| 21:16.53 | npx | the sarge rc2 netinst pissed me off earlier. I've got a USB cable modem, and it wouldn't detect it during the installer, but it did once I'd installed the system |
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| 21:16.58 | cafuego | jaldhar: You might consider handing out ubuntu cds instead. |
| 21:16.59 | strubbel | Devi0s: you want to see my solution? |
| 21:17.00 | EdibleText | !start a media player war |
| 21:17.00 | dpkg | Xine stomps mplayer, fool! |
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| 21:17.10 | Coke | doub: hm. you mean they might "hard spoof" the IP? |
| 21:17.12 | hool | jaldhar, i dont want no stinking cd... i want a t-shirt! \0/ |
| 21:17.15 | thenuke | I have now killed everyprocess I can kill.. And if I use hdparm -Y /dev/hdX the HD's will sleep for ~15secs only |
| 21:17.18 | thenuke | wtf is the matter in this :) |
| 21:17.22 | strubbel | awk 'BEGIN {WORD1=0; WORD2=0} /your first word/ {WORD1=1} /your second word/ {WORD2=1} END {if (WORD1==1 && WORD2==1) {print "found |
| 21:17.22 | strubbel | words"}}' |
| 21:17.22 | soften | yeah, I can download a cd :) |
| 21:17.25 | rellik | how do I get linux to recognize the netbios names on my network? "smbclient -NL a.b.c.d" gives "called name not present"... and it seems that this is because I'm not using the netbios name of the server.. but "ping <server_netbios_name>" gives "unknown host" |
| 21:17.27 | jaldhar | cafeugo: uh this is for the Debian booth not ubuntu |
| 21:17.28 | cahoot | Coke: the sequnce of tried login names are always the same - I'm not sure this is a sign of willful attempts |
| 21:17.28 | strubbel | oops |
| 21:17.34 | jaldhar | There will be t-shirts |
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| 21:17.46 | doub | Coke: yes, using a misconfigured proxy somewhere in the internet, which allows usage by anyone |
| 21:17.46 | cafuego | jaldhar: Same developers |
| 21:17.48 | hool | jaldhar, great.. will you mail me one? :) |
| 21:17.52 | jeaneid | lp: error - scheduler not responding! it was working a day or two ago?????? |
| 21:17.57 | jeaneid | any ideas? |
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| 21:18.01 | Coke | cahoot: eh, any 30+ failed login attempts from the same IP? |
| 21:18.06 | jaldhar | hool: will you mail me $10 :) |
| 21:18.10 | ncsu | how would i unmount a cd thats mounted twice? |
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| 21:18.22 | cafuego | jaldhar: Sarge rc2 for desktop users btw. Take care to burn PPC and AMD64 ones as well as 386. |
| 21:18.24 | ncsu | i keep getting umount: it seems /dev/scd0 is mounted multiple times |
| 21:18.24 | doub | ncsu: umount twice |
| 21:18.27 | npx | jaldar, the only thing you're gonna get is a hard time =P |
| 21:18.28 | hool | jaldhar, no.. :( |
| 21:18.36 | Coke | doub: most "hackers" these days are misguided kids who download h4x04 l337 scripts they barely understand. |
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| 21:18.46 | doub | ncsu: using the destination mount point |
| 21:18.51 | hool | for $10 i expect the debian team to show up with it and deliver it in person.. SIGNED ;) |
| 21:18.52 | hool | hehehe |
| 21:19.00 | ncsu | doub: whats the destination mount point? |
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| 21:19.13 | doub | ncsu: not the device, the place where the device is mounted |
| 21:19.23 | Coke | hool: why don't you spend yout 10 bucks on a Microsoft product and get to understand the feeling of really being ignored? |
| 21:19.27 | ncsu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:19.43 | cafuego | Coke: Microsoft doesn't sell $10 products |
| 21:19.45 | ncsu | doub: ah, ok thanks |
| 21:19.48 | soften | microsoft does not ignore; they merely ask "visa or mastercard? now, how may I help you" |
| 21:19.52 | jaldhar | cafeugo: We're relying on donations so I don't know if we can get many different kinds though I hope we have PPC and sparc atleast. AMD64 isn't official but I can see it would be popular |
| 21:19.54 | cafuego | Maybe a replacent mouse ball |
| 21:19.56 | hool | Coke, hey.. i know my sense of humor sux but dont go all yihad on me ;) |
| 21:20.04 | cafuego | jaldhar: *nod* |
| 21:20.08 | doub | Coke: using open proxies is explained in each and every script kiddie doc |
| 21:20.18 | cafuego | jaldhar: Will you have a burner there or are you pre-burning all discs? |
| 21:20.27 | Coke | doub: oh. well, I haven't been in that line of "business" for some time, so... |
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| 21:20.36 | hool | back when i was on modem i used to buy my cds.. |
| 21:20.45 | cafuego | jaldhar: You can always take a laptop with CDR and a bunch of ISOs and burn on the spot for non-x86 users - they'll appreciate it :-) |
| 21:20.46 | hool | no im waiting for the sarge bible |
| 21:21.11 | hool | every linux book i pick up usually deals in redhat and redhat only .... i dont like that |
| 21:21.11 | soften | serveradmins might be more appreciative of woody, especially if you print nice trifold brochures explaining about security.debian.org updates |
| 21:21.14 | doub | Coke: so do i, but that's what i once have seen |
| 21:21.15 | jaldhar | cafeugo: some of us have burners but obviously we can't make them in bulk but yeah we did that last year for the weirdos :) |
| 21:21.19 | Coke | doub: I don't care about the frequent port scans, they could be mostly anything, but do you relly think this could be a coincidence? |
| 21:21.30 | soften | hool, that's ok, redhat is now a fringe commercial-only product |
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| 21:21.56 | jaldhar | soften: surprisingly last year woody was more popular than sarge. we ran out the first day. |
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| 21:22.13 | hool | soften, yeah.. when i didnt ran debian back in the day i used to use slack.. |
| 21:22.15 | Coke | doub: it looks like they have taken the most common, american names and made 30+ failed login attempts in two minutes. |
| 21:22.18 | jaldhar | but now one more year has passed so the equation may be different |
| 21:22.22 | hool | can't stand rh then and still can't now |
| 21:22.37 | soften | jaldhar, perhaps include on the woody CDs an iso for sarge netinstall, and on the sarge CDs, one of the unofficial woody netinstall images |
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| 21:22.56 | jaldhar | soften: that's an idea. |
| 21:22.57 | Overand | Hey, how can I edit 'sudoers' to allow a user to run ifconfig and iwconfig as root, but nothing else? |
| 21:23.00 | hool | is sarge isos available yeat? |
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| 21:23.08 | Coke | hool: duh |
| 21:23.17 | hool | Coke, duh what? |
| 21:23.18 | Coke | hool: there's a wonderful netinstall available too |
| 21:23.24 | doub | Coke: if they appear in a short period of time, that could be (ie, having port scans and login attemps within the same day) |
| 21:23.28 | jaldhar | I have to go pick up my daughter from her school but I'd like to continue this conversation in a little while |
| 21:23.33 | doub | Coke: but that's just speculation |
| 21:23.34 | Coke | hool: sarge is available in every form known to man |
| 21:23.39 | hool | last time i checked only that jigdo was available for sarge |
| 21:23.55 | hool | other than that it was standard iso and then net inst |
| 21:23.59 | cafuego | jaldhar: Actually yeah. Take a laptop with isolinux setup, so you can turn visitor's usb thumbrives into bootable installers <heh> |
| 21:24.16 | neurocratia | how do I reset default kernel configuration, ie a new .config? I've tried with deleting .config file but it doesn't work at all. |
| 21:24.24 | Coke | hool: hm, if you're not afraid of unofficial ISO's there's a myriad. do you have a fast internet connection? |
| 21:24.38 | hool | Coke, no, yes |
| 21:25.02 | Coke | hool: I downloaded 8Mb or so of net install and it was very good. |
| 21:25.14 | doub | neurocratia: if you mean "debian kernel config" as "default", then it's in /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 21:25.40 | soften | netinstall is much faster on the theory that downloading only the packages you need is much quicker than downloading every package in the known universe. easier on the servers too. |
| 21:25.44 | Coke | hool: I've tried jigdo too, not as satisfying as the netinstall for my purpose. |
| 21:26.09 | Coke | That theory works well in practice too. |
| 21:26.12 | neurocratia | doub: I mean .config file that is in /usr/src/kernel-source* |
| 21:26.16 | hool | i dont care for jigdo.. i want an iso.. so i can bring it with me and install it at friends houses w crapband |
| 21:26.24 | soften | Coke, in most cases yes, it works exactly that way |
| 21:26.26 | hool | apt over 33.6 isn't ideal |
| 21:26.34 | Coke | hool: no. |
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| 21:26.48 | strubbel | fuck the snort package |
| 21:26.49 | soften | hool, jigdo is a program which makes an iso. |
| 21:27.04 | hool | too much hassle.. |
| 21:27.13 | soften | very well. |
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| 21:27.28 | doub | neurocratia: i never used debian kernel-source packages, don't know. sorry |
| 21:27.46 | Coke | hool: they build new CD sets each week |
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| 21:27.55 | neurocratia | doub: no problem |
| 21:27.57 | Coke | hool: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/ |
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| 21:28.43 | hool | Coke, HEY! local server.. most exellent \0/ |
| 21:28.46 | Coke | hool: there's also torrents and jigdo available that has the same contents as the weekly ISO's. |
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| 21:29.03 | ribnitz | did I miss anything? |
| 21:29.10 | deadcat | neurocratia: what are you trying to do? i dont get your q |
| 21:29.10 | Coke | hool: vassego |
| 21:29.23 | ncsu | has anyone ever formatted a cdrw using mkudffs or cdrwtools, im trying but get nothing but errors, i can mount the disk fine though |
| 21:29.25 | hool | Coke, you would not know how to remove a failed apt session kernel swap? |
| 21:29.25 | X-Treme | how does the kernel know where to look for modules ? when I modprobe it searches for /lib/modules/2.4.19/modules.dep but the folder is named /lib/modules/2.4.19-270105 |
| 21:29.28 | neurocratia | where can I get .config file for kernel-source-2.6.10 that is orginal or default? |
| 21:29.51 | deadcat | neurocratia: it doesnt have one. just make mrproper |
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| 21:30.13 | neurocratia | deadcat: I did make mrproper but it seems not working |
| 21:30.26 | Kidaz | My sources.lst says testing, does that mean I am using sarge? |
| 21:30.31 | deadcat | neurocratia: kidding me |
| 21:30.36 | Coke | hool: depends on how it failed and what it's telling you now. apt is a good friend, but once apt goes poo it's difficult to fix without a lot of manual labour |
| 21:30.39 | Covener | X-Treme: The name of the kernel set in the makefile -- you built with EXTRAVERSION set maybe? |
| 21:30.48 | doub | hool: just remove the kernel you were trying to install, check lilo.conf and run lilo |
| 21:31.06 | X-Treme | I used --append-to-version=-270105 but i've did that before without any problems... |
| 21:31.08 | neurocratia | deadcat: no I'm not, I have the same configuration without reset to default or orginal |
| 21:31.22 | strubbel | Kidaz: yo |
| 21:31.22 | Coke | hool: unfortunately, I have to leave now, but, as you can see, this channel is full of people who knows the ins and outs of Debian |
| 21:31.32 | hool | yeah.. |
| 21:31.37 | Kidaz | strubbel: thats a yes? ;) |
| 21:31.52 | Covener | X-Treme: whatever piece that installs the modules looks like it didn't run then |
| 21:31.52 | hool | they get mad when you ask debian questions in knoppix too tho ;) |
| 21:31.52 | Kupal[] | anyone know what hd /dev/sdb1 would be in terms of grub? |
| 21:31.59 | hool | and vice versa |
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| 21:33.00 | Coke | hool: hehe. quite understandable. the answer in #debian for any problem anybody has with any distribution other than Debian is "install Debian". |
| 21:33.19 | Coke | hool: and wouldn't you know it, most of the time the problem is solved by doing just that. :) |
| 21:33.20 | EdibleText | I would probably chuckle if I wa introduced to a 'Mr. Proper' |
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| 21:33.38 | brynjarh | Anything special I should keep in mind when installing Debian GNU/Linux Unstable on a Laptop? I'll be doing that tomorrow but I have only installed Debian on a desktop before. |
| 21:33.41 | deadcat | hool: ya because they dont know how to answer you as well. (= |
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| 21:33.54 | hool | yeah. |
| 21:34.21 | hool | knoppix is a useful tool tho :) use that to tell me what's in a box i can't be bothered to disassemble :D |
| 21:34.25 | Coke | brynjarh: only that unstable might be unstable. |
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| 21:34.45 | deadcat | i want xorg dammit |
| 21:34.54 | Coke | hool: I used rtbt for that. A small floppy-based GNU/Linux-dist with a lot of common networking tools and such. |
| 21:35.00 | doub | brynjarh: you can go fine using a normal install, except you'd better setup apm or acpi correctly, and you might have issues with PCMCIA |
| 21:35.10 | Covener | deadcat: so build it. you'll be sick of it in about 20 minutes |
| 21:35.21 | deadcat | Covener: really? |
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| 21:35.29 | hool | Coke, well.. since i got the cd allready.. and it has a purdy desktop and is useable.. |
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| 21:35.45 | neurocratia | anyone knows what to do if "make mrproper" fails to delete config files? |
| 21:35.47 | hool | it can take me a while to work up the energy to fix things =) |
| 21:35.50 | deadcat | Covener: i figured translucent and shadow would be cool |
| 21:35.56 | hool | specially if you have a working irc machine ;)( |
| 21:35.58 | Coke | hool: you can build your own live Debian system. that way you can include exactly the tools you want, configured the way you want. |
| 21:36.01 | quitte | deadcat: I'm building xorg debs for a week now. still not sick of it. |
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| 21:36.18 | Overand | knoppix, with some *help* after install, is 'ok' to install quasi-debian in my experience |
| 21:36.23 | deadcat | neurocratia: cd .. && rm -rf kernel-source* && tar -jxf kernel-source*bz2 |
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| 21:36.30 | EdibleText | neurocratia, has 'make mrproper' failed to delete config files? |
| 21:36.35 | deadcat | quitte: working? |
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| 21:37.25 | quitte | deadcat yes - except for the reason i switched. dri on savage. but it was a minor mistake. compilation should finish today. and i expect it to work |
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| 21:37.39 | _gentgeen_ | Does anyone know a simple script/command that I can use from the command line that I could use as a timer. (i.e. in 10 mins, sound an alarm) |
| 21:37.43 | deadcat | quitte: nice |
| 21:37.43 | neurocratia | EdibleText: yes I have, but what's wrong? I have also removed kernel-source catalog and re extrated kernel-source*bz2, but same problem |
| 21:37.48 | Kupal[] | is thier a grub conf to lilo.conf convertor out their? |
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| 21:37.53 | andax | i'd like to match packets (iptables) based on the user who opened the tcp socket. basically i need to redirect a given user's outgoing tcp connection attempts to a given host. the matching should be done by username and target port. is there an iptables module out there for this? |
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| 21:38.01 | deadcat | _gentgeen_: sleep |
| 21:38.13 | quitte | deadcat shouldn'T be hard to build debs from ubuntu xorg on a sarge or sid system |
| 21:38.14 | _gentgeen_ | deadcat, thanks I'll look at the man |
| 21:38.19 | cafuego | andax: Not for username no. userid, yes. |
| 21:38.42 | andax | cafuego: userid would be perfect. could you tell me some words i can use on google.com for this? :) |
| 21:38.42 | doub | _gentgeen_: trying computer assisted cooking? ;) |
| 21:38.42 | EdibleText | neurocratia, you're using a fresh tree and you get errors? |
| 21:38.47 | cafuego | andax: user*name* would require interaction of the firewall with /etc/passwd |
| 21:38.49 | deadcat | quitte: i tried following the instruction and ended up removing all my X and installing them back hehe |
| 21:38.56 | EdibleText | neurocratia, doesnt sound right |
| 21:39.04 | quitte | deadcat which instruction? |
| 21:39.07 | _gentgeen_ | doub, now that would be a cool mod -- toaster oven in the side of my box |
| 21:39.13 | quitte | the one about the non intrusive xorg? |
| 21:39.14 | Overand | heh |
| 21:39.20 | Overand | my athlon MP system is pretty close to a toaster |
| 21:39.23 | deadcat | quitte: nah not that one |
| 21:39.34 | EdibleText | _gentgeen_, yeah they dont run hot enough |
| 21:39.40 | cafuego | andax: ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_owner |
| 21:39.42 | deadcat | quitte: give me a min. let me get to my desktop. heheh |
| 21:39.44 | quitte | deadcat ah the one with ubuntu hoary source lines. bad idea |
| 21:39.48 | _gentgeen_ | no, just looking for something so when the boss says -- "suprise meeting in 10 minutes" |
| 21:39.57 | _gentgeen_ | without putting it into calendar |
| 21:40.01 | deadcat | quitte: i LOVE wifi. hahaha you can use it anywhere |
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| 21:40.03 | neurocratia | EdibleText: yes it doesn't sound right, but I think it must be a bug, and I'm using sarge. |
| 21:40.09 | EdibleText | _gentgeen_, there is the linux coffe howto |
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| 21:40.14 | andax | cafuego: thanks, so it's called "owner match support" :) |
| 21:40.17 | cafuego | andax: Probably uses '-m owner --owner <uid>' |
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| 21:40.29 | deadcat | quitte: ya. except i have to download the binaries (.deb) and dpkg it |
| 21:40.34 | KlaasVaag | hi ppls.. does anyone know of a good howto to get X running with debian? the plain installation and configuration of xserver-xfree86 did not work.. |
| 21:40.44 | cafuego | KlaasVaag: What vid card? |
| 21:40.44 | Overand | What's a good media player to replace XMMS? VLC is nice but the UI is lame IMO. |
| 21:40.45 | andax | cafuego: thanks very much this helped me a lot really |
| 21:40.49 | KlaasVaag | km400 onboard |
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| 21:40.53 | cafuego | andax: enjoy. |
| 21:41.02 | quitte | deadcat want to try building debs from ubuntus xorg? |
| 21:41.03 | cafuego | KlaasVaag: unichrome- yum. |
| 21:41.03 | EdibleText | neurocratia, you should be using kernel-package |
| 21:41.03 | KlaasVaag | a via km400 that is |
| 21:41.15 | EdibleText | !tell neurocratia about kp |
| 21:41.16 | deadcat | quitte: yes please |
| 21:41.18 | cafuego | VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video |
| 21:41.20 | Covener | Overand: mplayer is nice if you like the keyboard interface |
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| 21:41.28 | digerati | Overand: kaffiene |
| 21:41.29 | cafuego | KlaasVaag: I think you need to set up X with the 'S3' driver. |
| 21:41.47 | cafuego | KlaasVaag: But it MAY not be supported unless you're running Sarge. |
| 21:41.53 | cafuego | KlaasVaag: (or higher) |
| 21:41.56 | quitte | deadcat ok then. first of all you have to get the source somehow. i recommend you add a deb-src line for ubuntu and remove it when you have it |
| 21:42.14 | KlaasVaag | ok.. i will try that.. thanks.. i knew i was missing something here.. thats why i did not ask the question but asked for docs :P |
| 21:42.24 | KlaasVaag | but thx a lot.. i _am_ running sarge.. |
| 21:42.42 | cafuego | KlaasVaag: Ok. What did you tell X about your hardware? |
| 21:42.43 | quitte | deadcat: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted |
| 21:42.45 | deadcat | quitte: thanks |
| 21:42.59 | Overand | I want something that'll support FLAC and AAC (or aac+) too. |
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| 21:43.17 | deadcat | quitte: i was following this": http://shadowconflict.blogspot.com/2005/01/ubuntus-xorg-on-debian-sid.html |
| 21:43.18 | KlaasVaag | not anything i can reproduce atm.. i left it untouched for a few days.. |
| 21:43.19 | Overand | Hell, at this point I've even spent some time using *winamp* through wine. |
| 21:43.22 | EdibleText | Overand, mplayer does those |
| 21:43.32 | EdibleText | !tell Overand about mplayer |
| 21:43.41 | KlaasVaag | cafuego: i'll reboot into the debian installation.. see if its working.. |
| 21:43.52 | quitte | deadcat then apt-get update of course. then apt-get build-dep xorg. that will install all packages needed to build xorg |
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| 21:44.17 | cafuego | KlaasVaag: Alrighty |
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| 21:44.47 | punkrockguy318 | how can I find out what package owns a certain file? |
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| 21:45.08 | Gathond | punkrockguy318: packages.debian.org or apt-file |
| 21:45.20 | tarzeau | punkrockguy318: dpkg -S if it's installed |
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| 21:45.39 | punkrockguy318 | tarzeau, thanks, that's exactly what I wanted |
| 21:45.40 | quitte | deadcat i hope for you that your box is fast |
| 21:45.59 | deadcat | quitte: no. 800mhz desktop and laptop |
| 21:46.06 | cafuego | quitte: An amd64 2800+ isn't. |
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| 21:46.13 | Overand | yikes. no installation candidate for 'mplayer' |
| 21:46.15 | quitte | deadcat ok. will take some time then |
| 21:46.20 | deadcat | damn |
| 21:46.28 | quitte | cafuego heh. still i want one. |
| 21:46.30 | Overand | and an apt-cache search was nearly fruitless |
| 21:46.44 | EdibleText | Overand, read the last line of what the bot told you. |
| 21:46.55 | EdibleText | the one about ftp |
| 21:46.56 | quitte | deadcat in fact it will take several hours. |
| 21:47.01 | punkrockguy318 | !mplayer |
| 21:47.01 | dpkg | methinks mplayer is not in Debian. You may want to use vlc or xine instead. St. Marillat has made unofficial debs available. marillat website is DOWN. See: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ (maybe) |
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| 21:47.04 | deadcat | fuck it. wait till it comes to debian or some jerk builds deb for me. (= just hates when gentoo and otehr distro fuckers bitch at me about xorg |
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| 21:47.25 | cafuego | quitte: I disabled xorg transparency again. Not stable. (And it doesn't work with glx enabled) |
| 21:47.41 | anti-windows | What are the standard groups for a user? floppy,audio,video,dialout ? |
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| 21:47.55 | cafuego | and my cats HATE it when atlantis doesn't work smoothly. |
| 21:47.58 | Overand | EdibleText: thanks |
| 21:48.05 | quitte | cafuego i don't care for transparency. i want dri working on my laptop. that's all. |
| 21:48.08 | TheGreatMozilla | i'm running debian in VMware. Due to space constraints i would rather just have debian use an X server on my parent operating system (Windows with Cygwin/X). my debian system is primarally text-based so nothing x-related should run at startup. Obviously this type of setup will confuse apt. Suggestions? |
| 21:48.13 | deadcat | anti-windows: cdrom,dip,scanner,camera |
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| 21:48.28 | Overand | EdibleText: is it due to a licencing issue/GPL noncompliance/ |
| 21:48.33 | cafuego | anti-windows: 'users,src,cdrom,adm' here. (But my users == me) |
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| 21:48.37 | EdibleText | Overand, the link is incomplete; open the index.html |
| 21:48.42 | db101 | abrotman: you here? |
| 21:48.47 | cafuego | quitte: Radeon? |
| 21:48.56 | quitte | cafuego s3 savage |
| 21:48.59 | Overand | EdibleText: i can handle browsing an ftp dir =] |
| 21:49.03 | cafuego | oh deary me |
| 21:49.03 | anti-windows | deadcat / cafuego: thanks. |
| 21:49.05 | Overand | but thanks |
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| 21:49.22 | EdibleText | Overand, this is #debian I have gotten used to holding habds |
| 21:49.40 | Overand | Yeah, I need hand-holding sometimes too, heh. |
| 21:49.47 | register_ | hi iam trying to do make_install.sh but its not working i get unresolved symbol on alot of lines some one know what is wrong ?? |
| 21:49.56 | register_ | ati drivers |
| 21:49.59 | _gentgeen_ | Overand, just keep you hands above the table :-) |
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| 21:50.14 | deadcat | register_: you need either the kernel source tree or the headers tree maybe |
| 21:50.17 | directhex | register_, are you following flavipo stanchina's howtos? |
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| 21:50.22 | anti-windows | TheGreatMozilla: Not to go off subject of your question, but to me, Debian ran fairly slowly in VMWare. It might just be my system, though |
| 21:50.28 | quitte | cafuego got it working with that ugly non-intrusive thing. i want debs! i'm very positive this build will finally work. |
| 21:50.31 | neurocratia | EdibleText: Yes I'm using kernel-package, but I know some basic commands allready, and now I've got default reset by removing /boot/config-2.6.10 |
| 21:50.33 | TheGreatMozilla | I'll be away, if anybody has suggestions like i asked for above please /msg them to me |
| 21:50.37 | dud | umm, im a bit embarresed to ask this... but could someone walk me through partitioning a brand new harddrive on linux |
| 21:50.45 | dud | ive only installed harddrives in windows ;/ |
| 21:50.47 | Overand | like this for example: my sources.list has links to stable, unstable, *and* testing |
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| 21:51.01 | X-Treme | how does modprobe know where to look for modules.dep ? |
| 21:51.01 | cafuego | quitte: I just switched distros <heh> |
| 21:51.02 | directhex | dud, run fdisk to partiton, then mkfs.filesystem /dev/diskpartition |
| 21:51.18 | register_ | i followed a howto on rage3d.com and now i cant run the gdm i have the kernel source and done oldconfig but it dont work |
| 21:51.36 | dud | the problem is that this is a 200GB, and its showing 137438952960 bytes... eg 127GB directhex |
| 21:51.47 | directhex | dud, you need a very recent kernel and/or a bios upgrade |
| 21:51.49 | EdibleText | Overand, not sure if thats such a good idea |
| 21:52.00 | Overand | EdibleText: yeah well ::coughs:: i didn't put it there |
| 21:52.00 | dud | hmm, lets see here... |
| 21:52.02 | cafuego | dud: Time to flash the mobo BIOS or buy an IDE card. |
| 21:52.03 | directhex | register_, well don't fucking believe rage3d.conm then. google for 'flavio' |
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| 21:52.05 | quitte | cafuego so did i. but xorg in hoary is too old for dri on savage. so i tried cvs head. i'm really glad i'm not a member of the x-strike-force |
| 21:52.16 | register_ | ok thx |
| 21:52.19 | deadcat | cafuego: why is the xine font so ugly on my ibook? http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/huge.ibook.fonts.png works fine on my desktop |
| 21:52.22 | directhex | dud, the kernel upgrade might be enough, if it's not your boot disk. |
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| 21:52.29 | cafuego | quitte: <heh> Oh come on, it's NREALY as much fun as being a kernel hacker! |
| 21:52.35 | dud | heh, uname -r shows 2.2.20-idepci |
| 21:52.35 | Overand | the installer i used for this laptop starts with a k and ends with a "you're in the wrong channel" |
| 21:52.39 | mirak | hi |
| 21:52.42 | dud | is that normal for woody? |
| 21:52.47 | cafuego | deadcat: Coz you chose an ugly font for xine? |
| 21:52.50 | cafuego | deadcat: yes |
| 21:52.52 | Overand | of course my other boxes were done with the woody or sarge installer |
| 21:52.54 | cafuego | dud: yes |
| 21:53.04 | mirak | wich cvs web serveur allow to download zipped cvs snapshot ? |
| 21:53.12 | directhex | !tell dud about woody harwdare support |
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| 21:53.20 | directhex | !tell dud about woody hardware support |
| 21:53.46 | cafuego | !bake me some fresh bread and bring me a new cup of coffee |
| 21:53.54 | deadcat | cafuego: i can choose fonts for xine? |
| 21:54.03 | Kidaz | If I am on testing right now, and at a later stage sid becomes testing instead of sarge, will I became lid also? or do I need to do a dist-upgrade for that? |
| 21:54.05 | cafuego | deadcat: prolly.. |
| 21:54.08 | dud | kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 will that suffice for <127GB harddrive support? |
| 21:54.18 | deadcat | cafuego: dont think so. went through the configs and nothing |
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| 21:54.20 | directhex | dud, no. |
| 21:54.21 | cafuego | dud: Yes. May not for >127MB though. |
| 21:54.23 | directhex | dud, 2.4.23 i think |
| 21:54.41 | Overand | EdibleText: so of course I'm afraid to mess with it, but I may have to, so I can do apt-get upgrade, which I'm terrified of. |
| 21:54.42 | directhex | Kidaz, sid will always be unstable. etch is thre next testing. |
| 21:54.45 | MichaelSaunders | where does ghostscript normally store its fonts |
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| 21:55.04 | cafuego | MichaelSaunders: dpkg -L ghostscript | grep font |
| 21:55.07 | directhex | Kidaz, and what happens to yoru current system depends on whetehr you have your sources set to 'testing' or 'sarge' - when sarge goes stable, the former becomes etc, the latter stays as sarge |
| 21:55.12 | dud | its not in apt 2.4.23... |
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| 21:55.25 | X-Treme | my computer looks for modules.dep in /lib/modules/2.4.19 and it looks for the modules in /lib/modules/2.4.19-270105, which kinda gives me a headache |
| 21:55.28 | EdibleText | Overand, testing/sarge is probably want you want for a general use desktop |
| 21:55.30 | directhex | dud, no. it isn't. did you hear me when i said woody had beginning-of-2002 hardware support? |
| 21:55.35 | directhex | dud, get compiling. |
| 21:55.36 | Kidaz | directhex, Oh, interesting, so you can referenc by stability, or age |
| 21:55.40 | dud | ok, will do... |
| 21:55.55 | db101 | anyone here run courier before? |
| 21:55.57 | directhex | Kidaz, technically it's branch or release, but yes. |
| 21:56.05 | directhex | dud, or upgrade to sarge, if it's a desktop |
| 21:56.14 | Overand | EdibleText: that's what i've used on all my servers |
| 21:56.17 | Kidaz | directhex, Cool. Thanks! |
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| 21:56.43 | Overand | I ended up doing it this way for the laptop because I've had a hell of a time getting a good X setup (or laptop setup) on any workstations I've done with the official installer |
| 21:56.46 | directhex | Overand, sarge has no security updates yet. make sure you're up to date on all the latest exploits |
| 21:57.00 | abrotman | db101: kind of .. why? |
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| 21:57.12 | EdibleText | Overand, meh. I would wait for sarge to be stable |
| 21:57.27 | deadcat | EdibleText: good luck waiting |
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| 21:57.32 | db101 | abrotman: i have configured it and its running but wont accept my user to lg in |
| 21:57.43 | EdibleText | deadcat, I dont have to. Woody is my pal. |
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| 21:57.48 | npx | X -configure works pretty well. |
| 21:57.48 | abrotman | db101: you're still messing with cyrus? |
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| 21:57.57 | deadcat | EdibleText: kidding me (=. on desktop? |
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| 21:58.10 | Overand | the servers aren't public |
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| 21:58.15 | EdibleText | deadcat, no for important boxes |
| 21:58.31 | deadcat | EdibleText: well of course. i thought you guys were talking about desktop. |
| 21:58.42 | db101 | abrotman: no not cyrus courier |
| 21:58.46 | db101 | courier |
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| 21:58.51 | EdibleText | deadcat, I thought we were too... :) |
| 21:58.56 | deadcat | hahahaha |
| 21:59.01 | abrotman | db101: what does the log say? .. (and there is a #courier too) |
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| 21:59.16 | db101 | whats the log called i cant find out |
| 21:59.21 | abrotman | db101: if you've got some weird backend .. i won't be able to help much |
| 21:59.42 | abrotman | db101: check the mail log and messages |
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| 21:59.48 | abrotman | db101: in /var/log |
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| 22:00.04 | abrotman | and maybe syslog |
| 22:00.35 | db101 | its not in there |
| 22:00.40 | db101 | howeve in mail.erre |
| 22:00.45 | *** part/#debian zno (~chatzilla@160.79.174.102) |
| 22:00.46 | db101 | it says login failed |
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| 22:02.10 | *** part/#debian EdibleText (~EdibleTex@h-66-166-193-50.nycmny83.covad.net) |
| 22:02.29 | Morydd | good afternoon. |
| 22:02.34 | abrotman | db101: why did it fail? .. does it say? |
| 22:02.44 | abrotman | db101: what auth backend? |
| 22:02.44 | Ireul | hi |
| 22:02.51 | abrotman | you rule .. i rule! |
| 22:02.54 | abrotman | sorry |
| 22:02.56 | Morydd | apt-get upgrade seems to have broken KDE today. :) |
| 22:03.02 | Ireul | please, how can I test for debian version installed? |
| 22:03.04 | abrotman | Morydd: #debian-kde |
| 22:03.12 | directhex | Morydd, sid? |
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| 22:03.16 | abrotman | Ireul: dpkg -l libc6 or cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 22:03.26 | Mark1 | hello |
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| 22:03.31 | Morydd | sid=unstable? |
| 22:03.34 | directhex | Ireul, or look in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:03.34 | abrotman | Ireul: or check the apt sources file |
| 22:03.37 | directhex | Morydd, yes. |
| 22:03.38 | Mark1 | so where is everyone in here ? |
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| 22:03.47 | abrotman | Mark1: sleeping |
| 22:03.50 | directhex | Mark1, in #debian. |
| 22:04.05 | Morydd | then yes... |
| 22:04.05 | db101 | abrotman: i installed form apt courier-authdaemon |
| 22:04.07 | Mark1 | abrotman: why sleeping what time is it where u r ? |
| 22:04.09 | Delph | Mark1: thats a bit forward. Yes, i am free, but it'll cost you three pints. |
| 22:04.10 | Ireul | abrotman: 2.3.2.ds1-20 |
| 22:04.14 | MaxeyPad | I have exited X by hitting ctrl+alt+f1 how can I return to X? |
| 22:04.15 | abrotman | Mark1: /msg dpkg r |
| 22:04.16 | deadcat | sid is very stable |
| 22:04.17 | abrotman | Mark1: /msg dpkg u |
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| 22:04.25 | Vroum | Thu Jan 27 23:04:25 CET 2005 |
| 22:04.29 | directhex | Morydd, it's normal for sid to break. move along/ |
| 22:04.38 | abrotman | Ireul: that's either sarge or sid |
| 22:04.38 | Mark1 | ab where s dpkg ? |
| 22:04.40 | abrotman | !info libc6 |
| 22:04.41 | *** join/#debian joujou (~chatzilla@gp129c.halls.manchester.ac.uk) |
| 22:04.43 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-20 (sid), Packaged size: 4776 kB, Installed size: 15544 kB |
| 22:04.47 | directhex | MaxeyPad, ctrl-alt-f7 |
| 22:04.47 | abrotman | Mark1: screw off |
| 22:04.50 | abrotman | sootyzilla: turn that shit off |
| 22:04.55 | Ireul | abrotman: /etc/debian_version = 3.1 |
| 22:04.55 | db101 | ? |
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| 22:05.07 | abrotman | Ireul: check your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:05.09 | Ireul | abrotman: unstable or testing? |
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| 22:05.18 | Mark1 | abydos: screw off ?? u sound intelligent !! |
| 22:05.21 | abrotman | Ireul: check that file |
| 22:05.27 | Araldit | Do I have to set somethings in smb.conf or printcap to print to a printer attached to a windows xp box with samba and cups??? |
| 22:05.30 | abrotman | at least i know how to use tab completion fucktard |
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| 22:05.42 | Ireul | abrotman: the problem is that I've to test if my sources.list is correct :) |
| 22:05.52 | directhex | i prefer 'smacktard' or 'shitcock' |
| 22:05.53 | abrotman | Ireul: oh .. hrm ... |
| 22:05.56 | phogg | Mark1: what do you mean "U"? |
| 22:05.59 | abrotman | !u |
| 22:05.59 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 22:06.16 | abrotman | db101: you're sure it's the right error and packages? |
| 22:06.19 | Mark1 | phogg: u = you !! |
| 22:06.24 | abrotman | db101: sarge or woody? |
| 22:06.28 | joujou | what are the best mame games? |
| 22:06.31 | Ireul | abrotman: because apt-get dist-upgrade won't update my system :( |
| 22:06.31 | Lee__ | yeah, R U dum? |
| 22:06.37 | phogg | Ahaha, dpkg thinks you is singular |
| 22:06.38 | Mark1 | fucking dummies in here |
| 22:06.43 | abrotman | Ireul: did you apt-get update first/ |
| 22:06.45 | abrotman | ? |
| 22:06.51 | abrotman | Mark1: please leave |
| 22:06.58 | Ireul | abrotman: sure |
| 22:07.06 | abrotman | Ireul: maybe it's already sid :) |
| 22:07.07 | phogg | Mark1: it's everyone out there who're dummies. If you shut up, you might stay long enough to learn something. |
| 22:07.09 | Mark1 | abrotman: hey man u started it |
| 22:07.15 | Ireul | abrotman: it happened in the first week of Jannuary :( |
| 22:07.17 | abrotman | Mark1: do you know what debian is? |
| 22:07.26 | Mark1 | abrotman: no idea |
| 22:07.27 | directhex | Ireul, paste your sources.list in #flood |
| 22:07.32 | abrotman | Mark1: please leave |
| 22:07.47 | Mark1 | abrotman: no |
| 22:07.54 | abrotman | Mark1: please leave |
| 22:07.57 | Laurel | genius |
| 22:08.01 | abrotman | Mark1: you're not wanted here |
| 22:08.03 | directhex | !ops Mark1 newbtroll with poor spelling |
| 22:08.04 | Mark1 | abrotman: your words first "screw off" |
| 22:08.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Mark1 newbtroll with poor spelling |
| 22:08.08 | deadcat | oh girl, there'll be mo' dead |
| 22:08.20 | abrotman | Mark1: because you asked me what time it was where i am .. which is none of your business |
| 22:08.27 | Ireul | directhex: ok wait |
| 22:08.32 | helix | umm |
| 22:08.35 | helix | abrotman: shut up |
| 22:08.42 | abrotman | i did'nt call you |
| 22:08.45 | helix | Mark1: what's the problem? |
| 22:08.49 | helix | abrotman: yes, I know |
| 22:08.52 | Laurel | dude it's like a play |
| 22:08.53 | Mark1 | abrotman: hey i was being social |
| 22:08.59 | helix | Mark1: stop talking to him |
| 22:09.00 | Laurel | only it's not interesting, or well acted |
| 22:09.01 | abrotman | ok .. don't be social with me |
| 22:09.05 | db101 | abrotman: woody |
| 22:09.07 | helix | abrotman: ...and stop talking to him |
| 22:09.10 | abrotman | db101: moment |
| 22:09.12 | db101 | y and do you have any links for me |
| 22:09.16 | db101 | roger |
| 22:09.31 | phogg | Eight hundred people and no technical questions? |
| 22:09.33 | abrotman | ermm .. from packages.debian.org : Scheduled downtime: Due to a scheduled power shutdown at the site where this server is hosted, packages.debian.org will not be available from Saturday, January 29th 00:00 UTC until Monday, January 31th, 07:00 UTC. |
| 22:09.52 | register_ | i get /lib/modules/kernelnr/build dos not exsist or is not link what shal i do ??? |
| 22:09.53 | abrotman | not til saturday i suppose |
| 22:09.54 | Delph | a two day downtime? |
| 22:09.55 | deadcat | abrotman: now you've angered god. (= |
| 22:10.02 | Delph | ee, what are they doing? rewiring the entire place? |
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| 22:10.10 | abrotman | db101: what kind of server do you want? |
| 22:10.17 | abrotman | deadcat: it happens a lot .. i'm a prick bastard |
| 22:10.26 | deadcat | abrotman: amen to that. (= |
| 22:10.28 | dud | hmm, binutils is the package that contains make and gcc and such isnt it? |
| 22:10.34 | Mark1 | abrotman: yep i agree you are a prick ! |
| 22:10.35 | Kidaz | do I have to do "make-kpkg clean" everytime I want to recompile the same kernel with a new --append-to-version |
| 22:10.41 | deadcat | dud: no. build-essential |
| 22:10.48 | dud | ah, thats the name :) |
| 22:10.49 | Ireul | directhex: look at Mazingaro nickname in #flood |
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| 22:11.08 | abrotman | Ireul: are you pinning? |
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| 22:11.15 | register_ | i get /lib/modules/kernelnr/build dos not exsist or is not link what shal i do ??? |
| 22:11.18 | duke | will someone help me with cdrecord, i have it set up and folowed the /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup docs but it keep giving me No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 22:11.23 | abrotman | db101: imap or pop3? |
| 22:11.33 | Ireul | abrotman: what? |
| 22:11.49 | abrotman | !tell Ireul about pinning |
| 22:11.50 | register_ | make build or what do i have to link it to ?? |
| 22:11.54 | abrotman | and if you don't know .. probably not |
| 22:11.57 | directhex | Ireul, that looks correct to me. check /etc/apt/preferences and /etc/apt/apt.conf are empty |
| 22:12.02 | duke | any suggestions? |
| 22:12.21 | directhex | register_, are you on flavio stanchina's guide now? |
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| 22:12.23 | phogg | duke: what kernel version? |
| 22:12.30 | register_ | yes directhex |
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| 22:12.42 | duke | 2.6 |
| 22:12.43 | lobomufas | hi |
| 22:13.01 | strubbel | is that a bug if i need to fix /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/snort to get it running in dialup mode? |
| 22:13.09 | register_ | done apt-get install driver and kernel-src |
| 22:13.11 | Ireul | directhex: there's /etc/apt/apt.conf.d |
| 22:13.13 | phogg | duke: is your CDROM actualy a scsi device? IIRC, 2.6 no longer requires SCSI emulation to burn |
| 22:13.17 | register_ | unpacket the kernel-src |
| 22:13.32 | strubbel | i don't like that |
| 22:13.38 | register_ | and when i try to ./make then i get that build dont exsist |
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| 22:14.08 | duke | phogg: i was following the directions at the bottom, which sounds like its not using SCSI |
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| 22:14.36 | duke | phogg: it said for kernel 2.6 |
| 22:14.53 | abrotman | db101: did you install courier-pop or courier-imap ? |
| 22:15.02 | phogg | duke: /dev/sg* are scsi devices, unless you know otherwise |
| 22:15.30 | duke | phogg: how would i point them to some other device? |
| 22:15.37 | nir | I'm trying to make-kpkg, and get this error: |
| 22:15.38 | duke | err, point cdrecord |
| 22:15.40 | nir | I note that you are using the --revision flag with the value |
| 22:15.40 | nir | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.40 | nir | However, the ./debian/changelog file exists, and has a different value |
| 22:15.40 | nir | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.40 | nir | I am confused by this discrepancy, and am halting. |
| 22:15.40 | Ireul | directhex: preferences is not empty |
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| 22:15.44 | db101 | abrotman: courier-pop, courier-mta, courier-authdaemon |
| 22:15.46 | abrotman | Ireul: did you try commenting out the sarge line? |
| 22:15.54 | abrotman | db101: why did you intsall the mta? |
| 22:15.55 | db101 | thos are all the package i installed |
| 22:16.03 | db101 | i will use it instead of postfix |
| 22:16.07 | abrotman | you don't need mta .. |
| 22:16.09 | Ireul | abrotman: where? |
| 22:16.10 | abrotman | oh god .. |
| 22:16.11 | phogg | duke: you wouldn't. You'd point screcord to another device. For me it's /dev/hdd |
| 22:16.13 | abrotman | go back to postfix :) |
| 22:16.16 | db101 | ok |
| 22:16.19 | abrotman | Ireul: in your sources line |
| 22:16.21 | abrotman | err file |
| 22:16.22 | db101 | no problem\ |
| 22:16.24 | register_ | directhex do u know whats wrong ? |
| 22:16.24 | abrotman | db101: anyways .. |
| 22:16.27 | abrotman | !u |
| 22:16.27 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 22:16.44 | db101 | ok |
| 22:16.48 | nir | I'm trying to add smp to my kernel |
| 22:16.48 | Ireul | abrotman: where's the sarge line in the sources file? |
| 22:16.52 | Kidaz | Well if you speak dutch then U means YOU |
| 22:16.53 | abrotman | db101: why doesn't it authenticate you? |
| 22:16.56 | db101 | so can you helpme configure the pop3 |
| 22:16.59 | duke | phogg: would you set that in /etc/default/cdrecord? |
| 22:17.03 | db101 | login faliure |
| 22:17.04 | phogg | duke: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd |
| 22:17.06 | _gentgeen_ | right now I have -- if [ "$#" -ne 1 ]; then -- to check for an arguement to my script, how can I check to make sure that the arguement is a number? |
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| 22:17.09 | abrotman | Ireul: the one that says deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free |
| 22:17.12 | abrotman | oh shit .. ignore me |
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| 22:17.38 | nir | download the source, copied hte current config from /boot/config-... |
| 22:17.41 | phogg | duke: Probably in place of cdrom = 0,0,0, you'd do cdrom = /dev/device |
| 22:17.48 | Ireul | ??? |
| 22:18.18 | nir | any idea how to fix this error? |
| 22:18.22 | directhex | register_, no. i do nvidia. it's miles faster, and easier to get working |
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| 22:18.35 | phogg | _gentgeen_: regexp! |
| 22:18.36 | directhex | nir, apt-get install kernel-image-$foo-smp. |
| 22:18.44 | directhex | 2.6.8-1-686-smp |
| 22:18.58 | nir | ah, but I run ubuntu |
| 22:19.10 | nir | not such kernel there for ppc |
| 22:19.27 | Kidaz | Im trying to recompile with a new --append-to-version.... but it says it thinks it was the last append-to-version.... do I have to make clean? and waste compile time??! |
| 22:19.49 | db101 | yes |
| 22:20.03 | Kidaz | gash! |
| 22:20.06 | nir | can I use debian kernal in ubuntu? |
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| 22:20.12 | strubbel | is it possible to modify hardware (jumpers or something) in a way that two sound cards don't use the same interrupt, because that causes only the first grabbed by a module to work! |
| 22:20.14 | abrotman | db101: the error must say more than that |
| 22:20.15 | soth` | anyone got a good mod_rewrite tutorial? |
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| 22:20.23 | abrotman | soth`: ask #apache |
| 22:20.25 | db101 | abrotman: i will paste |
| 22:20.31 | abrotman | db101: not here i hope |
| 22:20.31 | strubbel | ? |
| 22:20.38 | db101 | an 27 17:04:53 expressclue courierpop3login: Connection, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1] |
| 22:20.38 | db101 | Jan 27 17:05:49 expressclue courierpop3login: Disconnected, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1] |
| 22:20.38 | db101 | Jan 27 17:05:50 expressclue courierpop3login: Connection, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1] |
| 22:20.38 | db101 | Jan 27 17:06:27 expressclue courierpop3login: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1] |
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| 22:20.49 | db101 | uh |
| 22:20.53 | db101 | my bad |
| 22:20.53 | abrotman | db101: don't paste here |
| 22:20.54 | abrotman | ever |
| 22:20.58 | abrotman | use #flood |
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| 22:21.01 | _gentgeen_ | phogg, Dooh -- Thanks, I should have thougth about that |
| 22:21.03 | _gentgeen_ | thanks |
| 22:21.22 | abrotman | db101: expressclue is the username ? |
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| 22:21.39 | db101 | ? |
| 22:21.41 | dud | btw, that !u for dpkg is the wrong UF quote |
| 22:21.43 | db101 | no the server bame |
| 22:21.46 | db101 | name |
| 22:21.48 | dud | its http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041202 not 1st of Dec |
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| 22:22.08 | db101 | this is form mail.err |
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| 22:22.20 | db101 | and in syslog its the same |
| 22:22.38 | FraudulentPeanut | my moniter auto detected itself in the setup and now i cant go above 800 x 600, how do i change the monitor settings? |
| 22:22.45 | abrotman | db101: did you check the courier config to make sure it's using the passwd file? |
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| 22:22.56 | abrotman | FraudulentPeanut: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 22:23.06 | db101 | wheres the courier config? |
| 22:23.16 | helloyo | FraudulentPeanut, how proficient are you with debian? |
| 22:23.22 | FraudulentPeanut | im a newbie |
| 22:23.29 | abrotman | db101: you mean you haven't touched it at all? |
| 22:23.30 | abrotman | !courier |
| 22:23.31 | dpkg | well, courier is an mta, a pop3 and an imap server, all of which are pretty good. |
| 22:23.31 | Lee__ | FraudulentPeanut: ctrl + alt + + |
| 22:23.43 | FraudulentPeanut | im a newbie |
| 22:23.47 | abrotman | db101: so you haven't even looked in /usr/share/doc/courier-* ? |
| 22:23.52 | abrotman | FraudulentPeanut: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 22:24.12 | deadcat | i am a newbie still have to follow instructions |
| 22:24.19 | helloyo | FraudulentPeanut, well like abrotman do "dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xfree86, and then for your monitor setup choose the medium level, then you can choose what resolution you want, and what resolutions you allow, make sure you allow yur resolution |
| 22:24.21 | db101 | nah |
| 22:24.24 | phogg | dud: How is "bereft of gorm" that an insult? |
| 22:24.30 | db101 | i havebnt even unzipped it |
| 22:24.48 | db101 | it still in .gz |
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| 22:25.05 | abrotman | db101: you should start there .. really .. courier is damn good .. but you still have to configure stuff |
| 22:25.16 | db101 | dude |
| 22:25.18 | abrotman | db101: if you're really lazy .. ask the people in #courier for a quickie tutorial |
| 22:25.25 | db101 | all its ogt in there is changelog |
| 22:25.30 | db101 | not evena areadme |
| 22:25.34 | db101 | ok |
| 22:25.35 | abrotman | db101: there are many courier directories |
| 22:25.47 | register_ | ahh found out the problem but thx for the help to howto :) |
| 22:25.49 | abrotman | db101: there should be one for courier-authdaemon and courier-pop |
| 22:25.50 | vulture | db101: perhaps there's a specific -doc package you should be installing? |
| 22:25.51 | abrotman | at least |
| 22:25.52 | strubbel | tomorrow i've got an interview for a student job...with a little luck i can supervise the college mailserver in near future :D |
| 22:26.05 | vulture | courier-doc even.. |
| 22:26.11 | vulture | amazing how easy things are to find |
| 22:26.20 | db101 | uh |
| 22:26.22 | db101 | heh |
| 22:26.31 | jaldhar | wow linuxcentral is donating 1500 CDs to us. Good job linuxcentral |
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| 22:26.43 | phogg | strubbel: let me be the first to toast your eventual abuse of power! salut! |
| 22:26.51 | jaldhar | that's a vendor that gives back to the community |
| 22:26.53 | dud | jaldhar, wikked |
| 22:27.04 | strubbel | phogg: please keep your fingers krossed for me |
| 22:27.42 | dud | strubbel, you should get one of the "I read your email." thinkgeek shirts then :D |
| 22:27.45 | phogg | jaldhar: Next week I will donate 500 copies of xmms to anyone who wants to download the from me. |
| 22:28.11 | strubbel | dud: yeah |
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| 22:29.26 | jaldhar | phogg: the funniest thing I ever saw was someone trying to warez openoffice. Kind of missed the point of open source don't you think? |
| 22:29.43 | abrotman | star office? |
| 22:29.59 | strubbel | that job would be some easing for my crappy achievement as a student |
| 22:30.00 | abrotman | !buckabeer |
| 22:30.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, buckabeer is time for abrotman to go .. thursday 5:30pm .. buckabeer at rock bottom |
| 22:30.09 | jaldhar | abrotman: no that's the thing. It was openoffice |
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| 22:30.40 | phogg | jaldhar: where? This I want to see. And make fun of |
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| 22:31.20 | strubbel | hope i've no reason to be depressed tomorrow :P |
| 22:31.58 | abrotman | db101: i'll be bakc tomorrow .. read some docs .. go to the courier website too |
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| 22:32.14 | ludi | hello, need help on setting up nvidia driver |
| 22:32.23 | resiak | !tell ludi about nvidia one-liner |
| 22:32.29 | JoshTriplett | ludi: #nvidia |
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| 22:32.33 | strubbel | the server runns exim |
| 22:32.53 | strubbel | s/runns/runs/ |
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| 22:33.02 | vkd | OT: anyone know of a tool to set bulk mp3 ID settings ? |
| 22:33.20 | resiak | vkd: music-librarian, perhaps? |
| 22:33.23 | strubbel | vkd: there are lots |
| 22:33.29 | JoshTriplett | vkd: Several million. Graphical or command-line? |
| 22:33.39 | vkd | Well, GFX preferred |
| 22:33.45 | JoshTriplett | vkd: GNOME or KDE? |
| 22:33.59 | vkd | GTK2 if there are any |
| 22:34.03 | phogg | vkd: I like kid3, which is good if you run KDE anyway |
| 22:34.05 | resiak | vkd: I just told you a GTK2 one... |
| 22:34.27 | strubbel | vkd: it would be great to have one that works with freedb.org |
| 22:34.49 | vkd | ok,, thanks, I'll try music-librarian, and see if there is kid3 with static qt compiled in... |
| 22:34.51 | phogg | vkd: you probably want a player/tagger combo, which is more useful than a tagger like kid3 |
| 22:35.11 | strubbel | vkd: i mean you tell the album and give the files in chronological order and thats it |
| 22:35.27 | phogg | what was the GNOME answer to juk/itunes called? |
| 22:35.35 | JoshTriplett | phogg: rhythmbox |
| 22:35.35 | resiak | phogg: rhythmbox |
| 22:35.38 | directhex | phogg, rhythmbox? |
| 22:35.45 | resiak | !win directhex |
| 22:35.47 | dpkg | Congratulations, directhex! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 22:35.49 | phogg | resiak, JoshTriplett: thanks |
| 22:36.11 | JoshTriplett | resiak: :) |
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| 22:37.09 | phogg | JoshTriplett: Like so many "Oh no, we must keep up with KDE!" apps, it was always doomed. |
| 22:37.15 | strubbel | vkd: and maybe it could rename the files too |
| 22:37.19 | phogg | Well bugger me. |
| 22:37.27 | resiak | !buggerp |
| 22:37.29 | resiak | uh. |
| 22:37.31 | resiak | !bugger phogg |
| 22:37.48 | nir | Now I get another error: make[1]: *** No rule to make target `conf_vars'. Stop |
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| 22:38.05 | FraudulentPeanut | is there a way to get activex controls working in mozilla |
| 22:38.15 | nir | while running make-kpkg |
| 22:38.16 | directhex | FraudulentPeanut, not under linux |
| 22:38.19 | sussudio | !moron FraudulentPeanut |
| 22:38.20 | dpkg | FraudulentPeanut: You are moron #26 |
| 22:38.35 | dud | amazing how much difference 512MB compared to 1GB RAM can do.... |
| 22:38.38 | sussudio | "I want mozilla to get humped like IE, tell me how!" |
| 22:38.39 | resiak | FraudulentPeanut: The question "why" arises. |
| 22:38.49 | directhex | FraudulentPeanut, there's an ability to do it in windows, but you deserve to be fucked in the ass by a big black man named bubba for using it |
| 22:38.49 | gtigene | We need some short-term consulting help installing a PCI card and associated driver. |
| 22:38.50 | jaldhar | Actually there is. Or was. |
| 22:38.53 | resiak | directhex: I was rather disappointed that Windows Update didn't run itself... |
| 22:38.56 | dud | with 512 it took about 15 seconds to encode from wav to mp3... now its down to ~5 |
| 22:38.59 | directhex | resiak, aw :( |
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| 22:39.11 | FraudulentPeanut | i have no choice... i go to school at Itt-tech and my online class requires Activex |
| 22:39.28 | resiak | FraudulentPeanut: Well HIT THEM WITH A STICK! |
| 22:39.35 | jaldhar | Something called EntireX or something from Software AG. I think finally they gave up on it about a year back |
| 22:39.57 | directhex | FraudulentPeanut, change school. |
| 22:40.13 | phogg | dud: RAM doesn't affect encoding time much, since that's a CPU thing. |
| 22:40.17 | jaldhar | but you could run COM objects under Linux and they had a plugin for netscape iirc |
| 22:40.25 | directhex | FraudulentPeanut, you _MIGHT_ have better luck running msie in wine. |
| 22:40.39 | phogg | dud: the big bottleneck should be your disk |
| 22:40.45 | strubbel | dud: time should tell you |
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| 22:43.40 | gtigene | what is a good channel to find a Debian con$ultant |
| 22:44.12 | caphuso | gtigene: www.debian.org/consultants/ |
| 22:44.21 | gtigene | caphuso, thanks |
| 22:44.48 | toresbe | What is a "Format String attack"? |
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| 22:45.17 | gtigene | toresbe, you overflow the buffer with scanf |
| 22:45.20 | toresbe | hmm, Google just got to "What is a format string attack, you say?" so nm :P |
| 22:46.48 | FraudulentPeanut | i found sonething that will work |
| 22:46.49 | FraudulentPeanut | http://www.codeweavers.com/products/?cw=8bca53a0c8509a6a2979b38a52bd4f66 |
| 22:47.24 | ludi | tell ludi about nvidia one-liner |
| 22:47.32 | ludi | that's a doosey of a command |
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| 22:48.17 | directhex | ludi, thank you. |
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| 22:48.49 | directhex | FraudulentPeanut, why not just run msie in wine? |
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| 22:49.11 | ludi | directhex: what makes that way superior to downloading the driver installer from the www.nvidia.com site? |
| 22:49.34 | directhex | ludi, one will fuck your system. one won't |
| 22:49.35 | Blitx | Yo mamma |
| 22:50.22 | sussudio | eww Pirch. |
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| 22:50.41 | sussudio | Blitx: are you some sort of tardbot? |
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| 22:50.53 | directhex | ludi, more specifically, an nvidia-instaler install will cause massive system damage if you update x or your kernel, and the NPTL suport's not too hot either. nvidia-installer's fine on systems with no package ma |
| 22:50.56 | directhex | nagement |
| 22:54.56 | dud | ok hmm could you all follow my plan for a few seconds and let me know what you think please...? |
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| 22:55.15 | dud | i have this server, without cdrom and floppy, and no screen for it |
| 22:55.26 | dud | i have debian sid on it, but i want sarge i think |
| 22:55.37 | directhex | !downgrade |
| 22:55.37 | dpkg | downgrade is probably not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
| 22:55.55 | dud | sorry, im running stable, i want testing |
| 22:56.11 | dud | eg, running woody, want sarge |
| 22:56.19 | dud | but... this is what i want to do |
| 22:56.20 | directhex | !woody->sarge |
| 22:56.26 | dud | ok.... |
| 22:56.43 | directhex | bah |
| 22:56.49 | directhex | never mind, carry on |
| 22:56.50 | Delph | ooh, that reminds me, i wonder how rob got on with his project. |
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| 22:56.54 | dud | my main pc is an amd64 running ubuntu hoary(eg debian sarge almost) |
| 22:56.59 | Aqua__ | Hallo! |
| 22:57.08 | directhex | dud, not at all. |
| 22:57.08 | dud | and i have a 200GB harddrive that ill use in the server pc |
| 22:57.30 | dud | ok directhex |
| 22:57.38 | ludi | what is the URL to download non-free debian packages ? |
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| 22:57.52 | dud | its late here, and im tired, so im not very pedantic tonight... please bear with me ok? ;) |
| 22:57.57 | directhex | ludi, edit /etc/apt/sources.list, change 'main' to 'main contrib non-free' |
| 22:58.05 | dud | so.... |
| 22:58.05 | directhex | !non-free |
| 22:58.06 | dpkg | i heard non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianers would rather not use it. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html or tack non-free to the end of your usual "main" source to install stuff like navigator. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 22:58.12 | directhex | bah |
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| 22:58.28 | Aqua_ | re |
| 22:58.31 | dud | if i follow the bootstrap install howto, i can install debian sarge for x86 |
| 22:58.33 | Aqua_ | diesmal mit Realname |
| 22:58.38 | Aqua_ | oh sorry |
| 22:58.44 | dud | by placing my new harddrive in the ubuntu pc as slave... |
| 22:58.47 | Aqua_ | I thought I'd be in the german channel |
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| 22:59.20 | streuner | !de |
| 22:59.20 | dpkg | methinks de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 22:59.28 | directhex | dud, yes, pretty much. bootloader might be an issue though |
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| 23:00.13 | dud | thats exactly what i was thinking.... i dunno.... |
| 23:00.16 | dud | is it even doable |
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| 23:00.50 | dud | perhaps i should just rip out the cdrom from my amd64 pc, and put it in the older one while i install |
| 23:01.17 | dud | it would most likely save me a great load of hassel |
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| 23:01.21 | directhex | dud, debootstrap is easy enough to use to get the very basics on, but misses a LOT of stuff a real install would put on straight away |
| 23:01.36 | directhex | dud, you could try a network boot of debian-installer? |
| 23:01.47 | dud | hmm, i suppose |
| 23:01.54 | dud | whats needed for that? |
| 23:02.04 | directhex | dud, dunno, t'is in the manuals |
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| 23:03.10 | dud | ill have a good look |
| 23:04.16 | OhSmiTt | hey does anyone know of software to make your own dynamic dns service? |
| 23:04.43 | db101 | OhSmiTt: what? |
| 23:04.58 | db101 | you would need something like cpanel |
| 23:05.02 | OhSmiTt | like a frontend to a dns server |
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| 23:05.06 | OhSmiTt | db101: no .. |
| 23:05.08 | db101 | or better yet code one |
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| 23:05.28 | OhSmiTt | I just need something that gets a http request and like updates a tinydns service |
| 23:05.41 | db101 | heh |
| 23:05.46 | db101 | you may have to code it |
| 23:05.51 | OhSmiTt | bleh |
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| 23:06.07 | db101 | i think php would be good |
| 23:06.09 | OhSmiTt | I guess it's like 10 lines .. |
| 23:06.09 | db101 | for htis |
| 23:06.14 | phogg | OhSmiTt: Make your own in what way? |
| 23:06.41 | Lee__ | There's a web browser front end to djbdns |
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| 23:06.52 | OhSmiTt | phogg: I just want to have control over teh dns server |
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| 23:06.56 | Lee__ | it's in his links section |
| 23:07.10 | OhSmiTt | Lee__: yea, vegadns |
| 23:07.13 | phogg | OhSmiTt: My domain's IP is dynamic from my ISP, but stable enough that I keep it for months. Whenever it changes I manually change my DNS info |
| 23:07.16 | OhSmiTt | I use it it's cool |
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| 23:07.28 | Lee__ | sorry, wasn't following the whole conversation |
| 23:07.28 | OhSmiTt | phogg: yea mine is super cool and changes like weekly |
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| 23:07.42 | phogg | OhSmiTt: so you don't mean a dynamic DNS sevice, which would let others do dynamic DNS using your servers |
| 23:07.57 | phogg | OhSmiTt: It would be easy, you just need one static IP for your DNS server |
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| 23:08.11 | zno | what is the difference between kernel-heades-2.4.27-2 and kernel-heades-2.4.27-2-386 ? |
| 23:08.14 | Sandman | How to stop all services started via /etc/init.d/whatnot, but not shutdown? |
| 23:08.18 | OhSmiTt | phogg: yea, basically. I don't want a subdomain I want to use a sld |
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| 23:08.54 | phogg | OhSmiTt: You can sign up for an existing dynamic DNS service. That will work. |
| 23:09.04 | rdancer|dumb | how do i install X server? |
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| 23:09.10 | OhSmiTt | phogg: free ones? |
| 23:09.25 | phogg | OhSmiTt: Or, as I said, get a static IP, run your own DNS server, and set it to euthoritative for your domain. But then you may as well host your domain there, too. |
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| 23:09.42 | rdancer|dumb | when i install windowmaker, it doesn't get installed as a dependency |
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| 23:09.43 | phogg | OhSmiTt: Free is harder. Used to be some free ones, but I donn't know any more |
| 23:09.52 | Deep6 | guys where do you go to allow remote X connections now? |
| 23:09.58 | Deep6 | particularily if you run gdm |
| 23:09.58 | phogg | rdancer|dumb: what distro do you use? |
| 23:10.09 | phogg | rdancer|dumb: whops, forgot I'm in #debian and not #linux |
| 23:10.15 | caphuso | rdancer|dumb: x-window-system-core |
| 23:10.20 | rdancer|dumb | ah, thanks caphuso |
| 23:10.21 | OhSmiTt | sigh, I run multiple dns servers thats not the problem. I want to have a easily updateable access to change the a record when my ip changes |
| 23:10.42 | rdancer|dumb | caphuso: i do apt-get install x-window-system-core windowmaker, right? |
| 23:10.49 | caphuso | rdancer|dumb: no |
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| 23:11.11 | rdancer|dumb | thanks for your cooperation |
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| 23:11.40 | [Cadet] | Deep6: enable xdmpc in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but beware this is not secure |
| 23:11.47 | phogg | OhSmiTt: Yes, well that is problematic unless you run the DNS server yourself. Or, unless you're friendly with or pay someone who will do it for you. Which is what the services do. |
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| 23:12.06 | Midkniht | should Debian/Linux sarge have installed a newer kernel upon installation or is 2.2.20 the default? |
| 23:12.07 | Deep6 | [Cadet], so just doing an xhost +hostname doesn't work? |
| 23:12.24 | OhSmiTt | phogg: ok you are not following. I do run the dns server. I run many of them. I just want to offer dynamic dns service |
| 23:12.32 | dud | i think ill postpone this reinstall untill tomorrow... a bit of an hassle |
| 23:12.42 | nir | I found the source of my problems |
| 23:12.48 | nir | I used wrong tree |
| 23:13.26 | cycom | well, I have finished both of my installs. |
| 23:13.27 | nir | I used apt-get source at first |
| 23:13.27 | phogg | OhSmiTt: Okay. Then you want to allow your users the ability to edit their records easily. |
| 23:13.27 | directhex | Midkniht, sarge will not have 2.2 on it at all |
| 23:13.27 | cycom | I'm actually using irssi again! WOOHOO! |
| 23:13.27 | [Cadet] | Deep6: well if you just want to run remote X apps look into the -X option of ssh or read the ssh man page for enabling remote X apps |
| 23:13.27 | directhex | Midkniht, if you have 2.2, you installed woody. |
| 23:13.27 | nir | now I used apt-get install linux-source... |
| 23:13.31 | Deep6 | [Cadet], I want to run a gui app on an aix server but have the display on my machine |
| 23:13.31 | Deep6 | ok |
| 23:13.50 | nir | and it compiles happily :) |
| 23:13.51 | OhSmiTt | phogg: easily == vegadns which I currently write patches for. don't worry i'll just code something |
| 23:13.51 | directhex | Midkniht, if you upgraded a woody machine, sarge won't have touched existing kernels, but you can apt-cache search for a new one |
| 23:13.54 | [Cadet] | Deep6: That has nothing to do with you running gdm like you specified |
| 23:13.57 | phogg | OhSmiTt: I'm sure you could hack a web based front end which would do it. |
| 23:13.58 | Midkniht | i installed woody first, then i did a dist-upgrade to sarge, but i still have the same kernel |
| 23:14.07 | [Cadet] | Deep6: you don't even need a display manager to do that sort of thing |
| 23:14.12 | vulture | Midkniht: so install a newer one.. |
| 23:14.14 | phogg | OhSmiTt: Well then ignore me (: I am clearly not helping. |
| 23:14.20 | Deep6 | Cadet doing ssh -X doesn't set the remote display it seems :( |
| 23:14.21 | vulture | if that's what you want.. |
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| 23:14.29 | Midkniht | which one would be best? |
| 23:14.39 | vulture | Deep6: is X11Forwarding enabled remotely.. do you have a local DISPLAY value to start with.. |
| 23:14.43 | vulture | Midkniht: best for what? |
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| 23:15.57 | Midkniht | best kernel for sarge or the standard one for sarge |
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| 23:16.41 | db101 | there is no best kernel for sarge |
| 23:16.46 | db101 | use whatever the hell you want |
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| 23:17.05 | db101 | thats why its sarge: unstable |
| 23:17.11 | Midkniht | ok lemme try this again, which kernel comes with sarge by default on new install |
| 23:17.15 | db101 | oh |
| 23:17.17 | db101 | hehe |
| 23:17.18 | db101 | :P |
| 23:17.20 | Lee__ | actually, sid: unstable |
| 23:17.21 | vulture | db101: sarge is testing, not unstable.. |
| 23:17.24 | db101 | better queair |
| 23:17.37 | db101 | testing is the smae as unstable if you ask me but hey to eahc his own |
| 23:17.51 | vulture | except that it isn't |
| 23:17.52 | db101 | and ic ant pell for shit |
| 23:17.58 | Jarn | does anyone know how I can let users get into my flash drive? |
| 23:18.04 | Jarn | at the moment it only lets me get in when I'm root |
| 23:18.04 | vulture | testing is testing, unstable is unstable, and never the twain shall meet |
| 23:18.11 | Midkniht | Jarn> mount it as a filesystem |
| 23:18.14 | db101 | yes change the permission of the dirve |
| 23:18.16 | Jarn | how? |
| 23:18.17 | Lee__ | Midkniht: I'm using the 2.6.8 kernel from testing. it works well. there's a bug in the SMP version |
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| 23:18.32 | db101 | mount /dev/fls1 /mnt/flash |
| 23:18.39 | db101 | lol |
| 23:18.49 | Jarn | so I should change it from being sda1 to fls1? |
| 23:18.53 | db101 | nah |
| 23:18.58 | db101 | i was just using an example |
| 23:19.04 | db101 | use sda1 as was |
| 23:19.11 | vulture | Jarn: read the mount man page, learn about the relevant options you can specify when mounting to give it different permissions |
| 23:19.17 | Jarn | okay |
| 23:19.18 | Midkniht | Well I am running this on Virtual PC 4.3 which doesnt like smp kernels at all from what i have seen |
| 23:19.26 | vulture | and/or use fstab and give user mount permissions |
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| 23:20.52 | Midkniht | sob |
| 23:20.58 | MrKeuner | hi, is there anybody using hp zv5410us? Are you having problem installing ohci-hcd module? Any problems with the usb 1.1 hardware? |
| 23:21.04 | Midkniht | i cant get X to run now that i upgraded to sarge |
| 23:21.10 | db101 | no |
| 23:21.14 | Midkniht | no screens found |
| 23:21.20 | Jarn | I tried that, vulture |
| 23:21.20 | db101 | i could get X to run even in woody |
| 23:21.21 | db101 | lol |
| 23:21.26 | Jarn | I put user in options |
| 23:21.26 | mohadib | how can i have firefox start in a new window ... im using firefox %s and it uses existing firefox window if one is open :( |
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| 23:21.28 | Jarn | in fstab |
| 23:21.30 | Midkniht | i had X in woody |
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| 23:21.38 | Jarn | and it still doesn't let user in |
| 23:21.54 | vulture | Jarn: did you mount it as the user? |
| 23:22.04 | Midkniht | they need to improve that |
| 23:22.11 | db101 | er |
| 23:22.13 | db101 | j/k |
| 23:22.23 | vulture | Midkniht: read the rest of the damn errors.. yeesh |
| 23:22.39 | vulture | and it's a rather large "upgrade", of course it's going to have issues, you are leaping several years ahead in versions, etc.. |
| 23:22.39 | Midkniht | vulture> i thought i called myself doing that |
| 23:22.51 | thomas_adam | How do I change my password? :P |
| 23:22.57 | vulture | thomas_adam: passwd |
| 23:22.59 | phogg | thomas_adam: passwd |
| 23:22.59 | Jarn | no |
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| 23:23.05 | vulture | Jarn: so.. |
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| 23:23.14 | thomas_adam | I think you missed the irony. |
| 23:23.17 | phogg | thomas_adam: the or is on strike |
| 23:23.17 | mohadib | anyone , how can i have firefox start in a new window ... im using firefox %s and it uses existing firefox window if one is open :( |
| 23:23.22 | thorie | can someone help me? |
| 23:23.23 | vulture | thomas_adam: I don't do irony. |
| 23:23.24 | Jarn | but no, thats not what I mean |
| 23:23.31 | Delph | mohadib: best off asking the firefox forums. |
| 23:23.31 | thomas_adam | vulture: Tastes horrible, anyway. |
| 23:23.34 | pipeline | thorie: Just ask your question. Maybe, maybe not. |
| 23:23.37 | Delph | mohadib: its some random commandline foo. |
| 23:23.39 | phogg | thomas_adam: ascii doesn't transmit irony, or any vibes. |
| 23:23.40 | Jarn | I dont want user to be able to mount it, I want the user to be able to get into its files once it's arleady mounted |
| 23:23.41 | thorie | does anyone here use BSD? |
| 23:23.41 | thomas_adam | !tell thorie -about ask |
| 23:23.41 | Midkniht | vulture> i understand the complexity of the upgrade, but why would it loose configuration settings? |
| 23:23.45 | mohadib | ty Delph |
| 23:23.53 | thomas_adam | thorie: #freebsd |
| 23:23.55 | pipeline | thorie: #freebsdhelp |
| 23:23.59 | Lee__ | thorie: they do in #openbsd |
| 23:24.01 | vulture | Midkniht: it wouldn't it might loose devices though (since different modules might need to be loaded) |
| 23:24.12 | vulture | Midkniht: read the log, it'll tell you what the problem is.. |
| 23:24.21 | thorie | im banned from #openbsd, #freebsd |
| 23:24.26 | mohadib | hehe |
| 23:24.27 | Jarn | lol |
| 23:24.27 | thomas_adam | thorie: Why? |
| 23:24.28 | Lee__ | ha. sucky |
| 23:24.28 | thorie | because i asked too many questions |
| 23:24.29 | mohadib | good job |
| 23:24.33 | thorie | i exceeded my question quota |
| 23:24.36 | thomas_adam | thorie: So don't ask them here. |
| 23:24.39 | vulture | thorie: it was probably more than just that |
| 23:24.40 | Lee__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:24.59 | thorie | too many QPMs... questions-per-minute |
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| 23:25.47 | timo | ju |
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| 23:25.54 | directhex | Midkniht, i expect it's mouse related. read /var/lox/XFree86.0.log |
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| 23:26.12 | thomas_adam | Or even: /var/log |
| 23:26.30 | directhex | nah, lox is better |
| 23:26.34 | db101 | debian woody = grade A garbage |
| 23:26.35 | bowman | hm, running doxygen, I get lots of lines claiming "dot: command not found", "check your installation" - what do I have to install? |
| 23:26.36 | directhex | only cool people know about it though |
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| 23:26.42 | db101 | im goin to free bsd |
| 23:26.45 | Midkniht | not mouse related, i had that problem in woody, i fixed it right away |
| 23:26.53 | vulture | bowman: a package that has dot in it, apparently |
| 23:26.53 | db101 | fuck this shit using old 1902 software calling it stable |
| 23:26.56 | db101 | wtf |
| 23:26.58 | directhex | Midkniht, so what does xfree86.0.log say it is? |
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| 23:27.03 | soften | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:27.04 | thomas_adam | Troll some more. |
| 23:27.12 | directhex | db101, it is stable. |
| 23:27.13 | vulture | bowman: apt-file searhc, or use packages.debian.org to look for bin/dot or something |
| 23:27.16 | directhex | db101, old, but stable |
| 23:27.30 | db101 | old != stable |
| 23:27.33 | thomas_adam | db101: So dist-upgrade to woody, and STFU. |
| 23:27.33 | pipeline | thorie: Tough. Get on EFnet and try their #freebsdhelp. |
| 23:27.37 | db101 | old == gah bage |
| 23:27.42 | thomas_adam | s/woody/sarge/ |
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| 23:27.45 | directhex | db101, would you prefer an old stable building, or a modern flimsy one? |
| 23:28.09 | soften | heh db101, not only will you be happy with freebsd, but you got at least two bites so far on your trolling line |
| 23:28.15 | phogg | db101: stable refers to packages, not apps |
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| 23:28.23 | db101 | well the problem is all the walls in the old building are oldschool shit technology and the new building is flex material for added protecitons |
| 23:28.24 | Midkniht | Open APM failed is the first thing i see |
| 23:28.33 | cycom | It |
| 23:28.35 | cycom | arg |
| 23:28.43 | thomas_adam | Midkniht: That's not it. Upload your logfile to the net, and let us see for ourselves. |
| 23:28.53 | directhex | db101, except that's not the case. newer versions are untested, and introduce bugs. gtake a version, and keep fixing the bugs, rather than adding them. |
| 23:29.30 | Midkniht | hmm |
| 23:29.30 | Midkniht | ok |
| 23:29.30 | joebob2000 | db101 is just mad about the cyrus support in woody |
| 23:29.38 | db101 | yeh |
| 23:29.44 | db101 | ill b honest |
| 23:29.45 | cycom | it's a good thing that I can sort of touch type, because right now I can't see my hands and am trying to watch the bonus features of star-wars at the same time. |
| 23:29.49 | db101 | that and several other thinglike php5 |
| 23:29.55 | db101 | apache 2 |
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| 23:29.56 | db101 | cyrus 2 |
| 23:29.58 | cycom | it's sort of working. |
| 23:29.59 | db101 | courier 2 |
| 23:30.04 | db101 | should i stop naming |
| 23:30.08 | directhex | db101, how many of these were released after january 2002? |
| 23:30.08 | db101 | heh |
| 23:30.15 | directhex | db101, all of them, was that? |
| 23:30.20 | thomas_adam | db101: backports, if you *really* must. But again, at this point in time, I'd go with Sarge now. |
| 23:30.22 | db101 | yeh |
| 23:30.23 | directhex | db101, so why would they be in a distro from 2002? |
| 23:30.26 | db101 | ok |
| 23:30.31 | db101 | im goin with sarge |
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| 23:30.42 | wilko | I thought you were going with FreeBSD? |
| 23:30.47 | bowman | vulture: thanks, found it :) |
| 23:30.59 | db101 | it seems more effective to first simoky upgrade to sarge |
| 23:30.59 | vulture | bowman: graphviz? |
| 23:31.10 | db101 | and if sitll the smae bullshit im goin to freebsd |
| 23:31.26 | bowman | vulture: yep |
| 23:31.30 | vulture | bowman: good good |
| 23:31.32 | thomas_adam | db101: Heaven help them. |
| 23:31.50 | bowman | vulture: apt-file didn't find it though. but the website helped me out :) |
| 23:32.04 | thomas_adam | bowman: You didn't run apt-file update before hand. |
| 23:32.22 | vulture | what thomas_adam said |
| 23:32.29 | Midkniht | ok got it here: http://weirdo.dyndns.org/~bbs/download/XFree86.0.log |
| 23:32.38 | bowman | thomas_adam: your point. :)) |
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| 23:32.55 | thomas_adam | Fatal server error: |
| 23:32.55 | thomas_adam | no screens found |
| 23:33.02 | thomas_adam | Midkniht: Quelle surprise. |
| 23:33.06 | Midkniht | i said that at first |
| 23:33.18 | soften | Midkniht, no screens found happened because of the error - it isn't the error. |
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| 23:33.29 | thomas_adam | Midkniht: The answer is starring you in the face. READ THE LOGS. |
| 23:33.52 | thomas_adam | soften: It's an indicator. Read the logs, and you'll see why. |
| 23:33.54 | supaman | starring: the answer as THE LOGS :-) |
| 23:34.17 | directhex | it's an unhelpful indicator which means nothing to those who don't know exactly how xfree86 handles hardware |
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| 23:34.44 | Midkniht | im kinda lost indeed, never did know much about X |
| 23:34.51 | soften | directhex, calling it an unhelpful indicator kind of misses the point; as does reading it to start with. the error is above it. |
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| 23:35.23 | directhex | soften, so would "Fatal configuration error, read log file for details" kill them? |
| 23:35.32 | Midkniht | why doesnt somebody tell me how to fix it, instead of repeatedly telling me the same error i said to begin with |
| 23:35.37 | caphuso | Midkniht: how much memory does your graphic card have? |
| 23:35.42 | soften | directhex, that's an excellent idea. |
| 23:35.44 | directhex | !noscreensfound |
| 23:35.44 | dpkg | it has been said that noscreensfound is probably dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" |
| 23:35.51 | Midkniht | 4 megs |
| 23:36.07 | directhex | noscreensfound is also NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. |
| 23:36.14 | directhex | bah |
| 23:36.14 | caphuso | Midkniht: and what resolution and color depth did you tell X to use? |
| 23:36.16 | directhex | !noscreensfound is also NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. |
| 23:36.16 | dpkg | directhex: okay |
| 23:36.36 | Midkniht | 16bit color, 1024x768 want my config file as well? |
| 23:36.44 | MrKeuner | does dpkg(the bot) keep some kind of a log of the channel? Can I search for zv5410us for example? |
| 23:36.48 | directhex | Midkniht, did you craft the config file by hand? |
| 23:36.54 | joebob2000 | sodding |
| 23:36.56 | thomas_adam | MrKeuner: /lastlog -- if it is recent enough. |
| 23:36.57 | joebob2000 | strong language eh? |
| 23:37.19 | MrKeuner | thomas_adam/ nah, I am interested in months tim |
| 23:37.22 | MrKeuner | time |
| 23:37.43 | strubbel | can i do somezhing like "/root/swapfile_01 none swap sw 0 0" in /etc/fstab? |
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| 23:37.47 | thomas_adam | MrKeuner: Piggy would know. :) Ask sussudio. |
| 23:37.53 | drgreen | ssssssssss |
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| 23:38.11 | Midkniht | http://weirdo.dyndns.org/~bbs/download/XF86Config-4 |
| 23:38.36 | Midkniht | i took the generated one and edited it |
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| 23:38.40 | directhex | *(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) |
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| 23:39.09 | caphuso | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.09 | Midkniht | i want to repeat that the exact configuration worked before upgrading to sarge |
| 23:39.09 | caphuso | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.15 | directhex | what silly numbers. |
| 23:39.20 | caphuso | that doesn't look right |
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| 23:39.27 | Midkniht | they came off the monitor exactly |
| 23:39.40 | thorie | what is a filesystem? |
| 23:39.52 | Midkniht | .ignore thorie |
| 23:39.54 | Midkniht | err |
| 23:39.56 | directhex | md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 >/var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:40.13 | peterS | caphuso: indeed, 50 Hz vertical is pretty shabby. 60 kHz horizontal is reasonable for some resolutions |
| 23:40.13 | directhex | thorie, a method for laying out data on a device |
| 23:40.30 | thorie | directhex: a method? but not the data itself, right? |
| 23:40.37 | caphuso | peterS: yeah, but i'd expect ranges there, not just two fixed values |
| 23:40.39 | strubbel | is it possible to auto-swapon a swapfile on bootup with /etc/fstab |
| 23:40.52 | directhex | thorie, a file system $foo contains data, laid out in the manner of that file system |
| 23:40.54 | strubbel | ? |
| 23:40.55 | peterS | caphuso: oh, indeed |
| 23:40.56 | Midkniht | directhex> you want me to run that command? |
| 23:41.05 | directhex | thorie, FAT32, XFS, EXT2, whatever |
| 23:41.07 | directhex | Midkniht, yes. |
| 23:41.09 | thorie | directhex: so if a backup restoration program restores "filesystems" then, it would restore the method??? |
| 23:41.16 | thomas_adam | strubbel: No. Swapon gets run at init anyway. |
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| 23:41.26 | thorie | directhex: i don't understand |
| 23:41.28 | directhex | Midkniht, go for medium complexity on the monitor config, pick the generic one closest to yoru screen |
| 23:41.47 | thorie | directhex: how can I restore a method? |
| 23:41.52 | strubbel | thomas_adam: so where can i configure some swapfiles? |
| 23:41.57 | directhex | thorie, you're being obtuse. |
| 23:42.08 | Midkniht | i never got it to work at all under woody without specifying the exact numbers |
| 23:42.11 | strubbel | thomas_adam: not partition |
| 23:42.12 | thorie | directhex: what do you mean |
| 23:42.23 | thomas_adam | strubbel: What are you trying to do, then? |
| 23:42.50 | thorie | can someone help me understand what a "filesystem" is? |
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| 23:43.01 | directhex | thorie, how is data stored on a device? |
| 23:43.10 | thorie | in sectors on the hard disk drive |
| 23:43.20 | thorie | cylinders, blocks |
| 23:43.23 | thorie | files, folders |
| 23:43.29 | directhex | thorie, how should it arrange itself on those sectors? |
| 23:43.35 | strubbel | thomas_adam: my swap partition is too small and i added some swapfiles on ext2 manually..want them to be integrated automaticly on bootup |
| 23:43.41 | directhex | thorie, what specifies what a folder is, in physical magnetic terms? |
| 23:43.56 | thorie | it should arrange itself based on the filesystem type |
| 23:44.04 | thorie | like FAT32, ext2fs |
| 23:44.06 | directhex | thorie, right. |
| 23:44.11 | thorie | but what is a "filesystem" ? |
| 23:44.14 | directhex | thorie, so you've answered your own question |
| 23:44.18 | thorie | i did...? |
| 23:44.20 | drac | I have this on my .zshrc " |
| 23:44.35 | strubbel | thomas_adam: it's only a quick fix untill i repartition |
| 23:44.39 | thorie | i know what a "filesystem type" is, but not what a "filesystem" is |
| 23:44.58 | drac | I have this on my .zshrc now, export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=, does that do same as /etc/ls.so.conf |
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| 23:44.59 | drac | ld.so.conf |
| 23:45.04 | thorie | FAT32 is not a filesystem. |
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| 23:45.11 | thorie | FAT32 is a filesystem type. |
| 23:45.14 | bucky | strubbel, if you want to add a swap file http://linux-sxs.org/housekeeping/swapmore.html |
| 23:45.14 | doub | thorie: it is |
| 23:45.19 | thorie | it is? |
| 23:45.23 | directhex | thorie, in the context you're talking about, a filesystem is a data partition which uses a given filesystem type |
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| 23:45.33 | thorie | ooooooohhh... |
| 23:45.33 | directhex | thorie, but it's very poor use of the terms |
| 23:45.35 | thorie | i see |
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| 23:45.42 | strubbel | bucky: aha |
| 23:45.51 | soften | for that matter, the proc filesystem is rather a fly in that ointment |
| 23:46.07 | soften | a gmail account or an ftp server could be mounted as a filesystem. |
| 23:46.09 | paulswm | thorie: A filesystem is a mechanism for abstracting physical sectors on the disk into logical structures such as directories and files |
| 23:46.34 | phogg | One cannot forget gnutellafs |
| 23:46.47 | soften | even if one would like to do so? :) |
| 23:46.47 | thorie | well, this person wrote "Use the dump program to backup your filesystem" and I thought, "why the hell would I care to backup the EXT2FS but not any of the data on the EXT2FS partition???!" |
| 23:46.52 | Midkniht | ok so i got a question |
| 23:47.00 | phogg | soften: especially of one would like to do so |
| 23:47.03 | Midkniht | why does it put 2 mice in the config file |
| 23:47.09 | thorie | paulswm: but it is a mechanism, not the data itself correct? |
| 23:47.32 | strubbel | bucky: so, its possible to do "/root/swapfile_01 none swap sw 0 0"? |
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| 23:47.55 | paulswm | thorie: the term is generally used to refer to the data, as the filesystem contains the data |
| 23:48.00 | thorie | paulswm: just like "internal combustion" is a mechanism, a car engine would be an actual instance of a tangible thing that uses that mechanism |
| 23:48.01 | strubbel | bucky: to /etc/fstab of course |
| 23:48.08 | phogg | thorie: a filesystem backup does not back up the filesystem layour or directory structure, but makes a bit-for-bit copy of all the data on the partition specified. |
| 23:48.17 | doub | strubbel: it's possible but slower than on a separate partition, as the swap file can be in several parts |
| 23:48.20 | thorie | phogg: AHHHhhh that is clear |
| 23:48.48 | strubbel | doub: ok then i'm fine for the next mont |
| 23:48.48 | npx | Yeah the nomenclature is a little unclear at times |
| 23:48.49 | Midkniht | one is configured mouse (good one) other is generic mouse (worthless) |
| 23:48.51 | bucky | strubbel, sure |
| 23:48.52 | strubbel | thanks |
| 23:48.57 | phogg | thorie: not especially. You need to do some reading. |
| 23:49.03 | ichigo12 | wech |
| 23:49.08 | paulswm | thorie: a filesystem backup is really a filesystem data backup. SOme programs (like dump) are optimized for particular filesystem types |
| 23:49.42 | thorie | paulswm: ok... my main confusion was that, you can't backup a mechanism |
| 23:49.44 | doub | strubbel: you'd better resize existing partitons to enlarge your swap one, if you can |
| 23:49.45 | ichigo12 | trou du cul |
| 23:49.49 | Midkniht | wasnt thorie the one that was kicked out of like 3-4 channels for asking too many dumb questions? |
| 23:49.54 | thorie | yep |
| 23:49.55 | ichigo12 | enculer |
| 23:50.00 | ichigo12 | yep |
| 23:50.08 | thorie | that was me |
| 23:50.23 | ichigo12 | quoi |
| 23:50.53 | strubbel | doub: i already said it's only until i repartion...need some spare time for that, since i'll do some bigger setup then! |
| 23:51.04 | phogg | must be slow in here... |
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| 23:51.19 | Midkniht | hmm |
| 23:51.21 | ichigo12 | fils de chien |
| 23:51.26 | strubbel | doub: and my problem is that my disks are always full |
| 23:51.30 | thorie | is /dev/hda0 a filesystem or a partition? |
| 23:51.31 | sussudio | helix? |
| 23:51.32 | ichigo12 | mange moi le zizi |
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| 23:51.36 | helix | yes |
| 23:51.39 | paulswm | thorie: partition |
| 23:51.39 | Midkniht | not gonna reask my question again i quess |
| 23:51.41 | ichigo12 | et l anus |
| 23:51.41 | sussudio | helix: ichigo12 |
| 23:51.42 | helix | ichigo12: speak english |
| 23:51.46 | Midkniht | later |
| 23:51.50 | spike | hello les pti pd |
| 23:51.53 | sussudio | helix: he's insulting in french |
| 23:51.53 | ichigo12 | no im speak french |
| 23:51.55 | thorie | paulswm: how do i specify a filesystem? |
| 23:51.59 | ichigo12 | lol |
| 23:52.00 | paulswm | well actually it would be /dev/hda1 upwards |
| 23:52.02 | thorie | paulswm: just "/" would work? |
| 23:52.02 | soften | ichigo12, on parle anglais ici. in english, you would say "eat me" |
| 23:52.04 | helix | ichigo12: no, you will speak english or be removed. |
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| 23:52.17 | ichigo12 | je me suis fait cramer |
| 23:52.20 | helix | ok |
| 23:52.21 | ichigo12 | lkol |
| 23:52.22 | phogg | thorie: device name is more traditional |
| 23:52.22 | strubbel | doub: need to get a new external storage |
| 23:52.27 | Delph | wtf is a zizi ? |
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| 23:52.30 | paulswm | thorie: if you are running debian, you already know the answer |
| 23:52.31 | sussudio | ktnx |
| 23:52.40 | thorie | i do |
| 23:52.42 | thorie | ? |
| 23:52.53 | doub | Delph: a dick |
| 23:52.57 | Delph | doub: cheers. |
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| 23:53.06 | spike | sa bouffe quoi un rosbif des stroufe le dimanche avec un baton dans le cul et des guimauve grillé dans le nez |
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| 23:53.14 | thorie | When I type "df" it shows me Filesystem is /dev/hda1 |
| 23:53.17 | soften | club-internet.fr sounds like a mandrake thing |
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| 23:53.29 | doub | soften: it's just a french ISP |
| 23:53.32 | strubbel | how is xfs compared to ext3 over slow interfaces? |
| 23:53.34 | thorie | Is that a typo? |
| 23:53.51 | FraudulentPeanut | how do i find out what kernel I am using |
| 23:53.58 | directhex | uname -r |
| 23:54.04 | paulswm | thorie: why not read the tutorials in the Debian user guide and do a bit of googling |
| 23:54.06 | cycom | ichigo doesn't even seem like a french name. how bizzare. |
| 23:54.06 | phogg | strubbel: I've never trued hookied a hard drive up to a 56k modem |
| 23:54.08 | bucky | thorie, and it says its "Mounted on" / |
| 23:54.11 | spike | y a une filles qui, parle le francais icic |
| 23:54.17 | paulswm | !fr |
| 23:54.18 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 23:54.28 | spike | i love girl americane |
| 23:54.31 | bucky | thorie, linux treats hardware as a file system |
| 23:54.36 | thorie | bucky: ? ? |
| 23:54.38 | paulswm | *sigh* |
| 23:54.44 | strubbel | phogg: me either, but usb 1.0? |
| 23:54.44 | bucky | read it df |
| 23:54.44 | thorie | bucky: so "/" is the filesystem? |
| 23:54.52 | phogg | thorie: it means your filesystem is on /dev/hda1, which is the primary paster partition one |
| 23:54.58 | spike | i love foufoune the girl |
| 23:55.04 | bucky | thorie, / = C:\ |
| 23:55.07 | thorie | ok |
| 23:55.09 | sussudio | helix: i think it rejoined through AOL |
| 23:55.13 | quitte | where would be a good place to put some debs in the filesystem to access with the deb file: method of apt? |
| 23:55.16 | phogg | thorie: master, not paster. In *nix, even devices are files. |
| 23:55.33 | spike | i love kiss the sex the girl |
| 23:56.02 | quitte | home is bad. usr is bad. opt or var maybe? |
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| 23:56.07 | cycom | thorie: you get used to it, and it turns out that it's a helluva lot easier to do things when you know everything, be it filesystem or device, is linked somehow to / |
| 23:56.09 | sussudio | ktnxagain |
| 23:56.12 | thorie | im still confused, i dont know how to specify a filesystem |
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| 23:56.20 | s1x | lo all |
| 23:56.27 | soften | i think spike may be a random word script |
| 23:56.31 | thorie | does it want "/" ? does it want "/dev/hda1"? does it want "ext2fs"? |
| 23:56.34 | phogg | thorie: specify a filesystem for what? |
| 23:56.43 | thorie | for a linux command |
| 23:56.49 | thorie | as a command line parameter |
| 23:56.54 | cycom | which command? |
| 23:56.58 | thorie | any |
| 23:57.03 | cycom | oh |
| 23:57.06 | thorie | any that requires the filesystem as the first parameter |
| 23:57.11 | Delph | thorie: depending on the command, a different value will be required. |
| 23:57.11 | *** join/#debian guestish (~adam@guestish.user) |
| 23:57.12 | phogg | thorie: if it asks for filesystekm type, say ext2fs. If it asks for a directory, say /. If it asks for a filesystem or partition or device, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda |
| 23:57.29 | cycom | what phogg said :) |
| 23:57.32 | guestish | does anyone know of a program capable of creating dvd subtitles and authoring them to a dvd? |
| 23:57.44 | s1x | how can I configure my desktop to use a shared printer |
| 23:58.03 | phogg | guestish: yes. For Linux, too. But I don't remember the name. I am so helpful! |
| 23:58.12 | s1x | guestish, dvdmenuauth |
| 23:58.20 | s1x | guestish, something like htat |
| 23:58.38 | guestish | s1x: uh, that doesnt help much |
| 23:58.45 | paulswm | a filesystem is what's on a partition. filesystems are mounted on directories which are called mount points. If you do df, and the only filesystem which shows up is '/', you have everything on one filesystem which is mounted on the rootdirectory ('/'). |
| 23:58.48 | guestish | s1x: there is dvdauthor, but thats something differnet |
| 23:58.54 | phogg | s1x: that depends on your printing system, and how the printer is being shared |
| 23:58.57 | guestish | phogg: i bet you dont know of any |
| 23:59.02 | thorie | phogg: cool |
| 23:59.06 | guestish | phogg: because the odds are that you dont |
| 23:59.21 | s1x | phogg, it's being shared by cups as follows: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#networkprinter |
| 23:59.32 | guestish | s1x: is that what you are thinking of? |
| 23:59.43 | phogg | guestish: IIRC, it's a multi-step process fraught with danger and goblins. Also, I have no DVD burner so I ignored the information. |
| 23:59.48 | sussudio | s1x: this is not #ubuntu, leave. |
