| 00:00.29 | valdyn | quittt: your dmix is ok w/ 44100 as I see |
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| 00:00.49 | niemand | okay, i am attempting to compile opencascade which does not like tcl/tk-8.4. opencascade appears to like tcl/tk-8.3. i need tcl/tk-8.4 for other dependencies. under debian sarge is there a way to install tcl/tk-8.3 in an alternate location ( like /usr/local ) instead of /usr? |
| 00:00.57 | cafuego | sgeigerbot: Just so we're clear on this, no, i wasn't talking to you. |
| 00:01.07 | atrus | si|vercat: how's your mouse working out? |
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| 00:01.15 | RedPenguin | Damn, Debian makes a great Privoxy and Squid proxy server |
| 00:01.17 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: GOOD. |
| 00:01.19 | sgeigerbot | damn.. |
| 00:01.19 | sussudio | niemand: you can install both |
| 00:01.33 | cafuego | sgeigerbot: .. and I don't understand how you would infer I was. |
| 00:01.48 | niemand | sussudio, well actually no. under sarge tk8.3 wants to remove tk8.4 |
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| 00:02.08 | valdyn | quittt: slune seems to use openal. openal can be configured to use alsa |
| 00:02.11 | bucky | Kerr, you can google for an apt repository at gwdg.de or read the java howto at debian.org to build your own java deb |
| 00:02.13 | RedPenguin | Then again I put it on my machine with a 10/100MB card, my previous one only had a 10MB card |
| 00:02.24 | niemand | sussudio, been there done that does not work. synaptic. |
| 00:02.36 | ChibaPet | Hey, all. Trying to integrate Debian workstations into a network that uses NetBSD-based NIS servers. FAQ don't seem to say how to get authentication to happen... I can see DES hashes via "ypcat master.passwd.byname", but I don't know how to get PAM to authenticate using this... Thanks in advance for clues! |
| 00:03.05 | Pluk | hi Rawplayer |
| 00:03.08 | Pluk | :P |
| 00:04.02 | ChibaPet | Anyone here use Debian-based NIS clients? |
| 00:04.12 | tarzeau | ChibaPet: yes |
| 00:04.25 | Kerr | bucky: i realy dun see the relevance to my question... i've tried ot build my own deb countless times, and each time met failure.. |
| 00:04.41 | Kerr | to^ |
| 00:04.43 | Rawplayer | hi Pluk |
| 00:04.48 | ChibaPet | Is there a way to tell PAM what NIS maps to use, and to use DES, etc? |
| 00:05.03 | bucky | Kerr, you can't find it on google ? |
| 00:05.18 | tarzeau | ChibaPet: i only use the nis clients ;) |
| 00:05.21 | ChibaPet | KDM, for example, sees all the accounts, but authentication is failing, so things are only partially working. |
| 00:05.33 | tarzeau | we use wdm, works like a charm |
| 00:05.38 | ChibaPet | hm |
| 00:05.44 | tarzeau | maybe KDM is broke? xtrlock doesn't grasp it either |
| 00:05.50 | quittt | valdyn, isnt a way to make ALL apps have sound mixed? |
| 00:05.50 | ChibaPet | hm |
| 00:05.56 | niemand | sussudio, try to install both tk8.3, tk8.3-dev and tk8.4, tk8.4-dev. |
| 00:05.59 | quittt | pretty dumb to have some working and other doesnt |
| 00:06.05 | ChibaPet | login on console doesn't understand it either |
| 00:06.15 | bucky | ChibaPet, you prolly need to use {crypt} instead of md5 |
| 00:06.18 | paulswm | RedPenguin: yes, I like squid on debian :) |
| 00:06.35 | ChibaPet | bucky - where should I specify this, OOC? |
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| 00:06.47 | valdyn | quittt: it has to be done per framework |
| 00:06.52 | RedPenguin | I used to use SME Server on my Deb machine but I just feel like I have so much more power and contol with Debian |
| 00:07.03 | niemand | okay, i am attempting to compile opencascade which does not like tcl/tk-8.4. opencascade appears to like tcl/tk-8.3. i need tcl/tk-8.4 for other dependencies. under debian sarge is there a way to install tcl/tk-8.3 in an alternate location ( like /usr/local ) instead of /usr? |
| 00:07.14 | valdyn | quittt: once for openal, once for gstreamer, once for whatever mpg321 uses etc |
| 00:07.31 | valdyn | quittt: and naturally per app that handles everything itself |
| 00:07.36 | tull | hi, when compiling kernel do i put CONFIG_SOUND and ALSA as module or "y"?? |
| 00:07.42 | RedPenguin | The only thing I don't like with Debian is how I can't seem to get SSL to work with irssi-text no matter what I do |
| 00:07.48 | quittt | valdyn, why dont ALSA simply make it possible to all apps |
| 00:07.48 | RedPenguin | Even if I install libssl-dev and openssl |
| 00:07.54 | quittt | it is so dumb and stupid |
| 00:08.04 | quittt | who in hell would want to play only one sound? |
| 00:08.07 | PerfDave | If you get sound mixing working in ALSA, and have ALSA OSS emulation, then everything will be mixed. |
| 00:08.08 | caphuso | RedPenguin: you need to recompile it |
| 00:08.10 | valdyn | quittt: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=TroubleShooting |
| 00:08.43 | RedPenguin | Well, what should be done to recompile it? I know compiling but I usually do apt-get install irssi-text |
| 00:09.01 | PerfDave | RedPenguin: Read the APT HOWTO |
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| 00:09.39 | RedPenguin | I figured that, I remember seeing an option to recompile |
| 00:10.00 | ChibaPet | oi |
| 00:10.20 | ChibaPet | BSD, Solaris, this stuff just works! PAM is a bit too opaque. |
| 00:10.50 | racoon|birthday | Does anyone know of a decent multi rename tool? |
| 00:10.58 | ChibaPet | multi rename? |
| 00:10.58 | bob2 | "rename" |
| 00:11.04 | racoon|birthday | I had one in Win32/Total commander |
| 00:11.05 | caphuso | solaris and at least freebsd use pam too |
| 00:11.19 | caphuso | in fact, SUN was who developed PAM in the first place |
| 00:11.28 | racoon|birthday | Also, a tool for properly labeling music based on ID3 lib would be nice |
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| 00:11.45 | ChibaPet | caphuso - well, regardless, I've gotten NIS working under Solaris in the past without issue. :) |
| 00:12.00 | bob2 | there are a hundred and fifty thousand mp3 renaming programs in Debian |
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| 00:12.21 | cafuego | And that doesn't include bash. |
| 00:12.26 | sgeigerbot | racoon|birthday: musicman is a konqueror plugin. grip and xmms also allow id3 tags to be edited. easytag and cantus are others. |
| 00:12.31 | caphuso | one is even called mp3rename |
| 00:12.38 | cafuego | racoon|birthday: I find a bash script works best. |
| 00:12.56 | racoon|birthday | sgeigerbot, I don't want to edit the entire thing manually, so i think easytag is what I want |
| 00:12.58 | kds | Hi, I'm having a little problem making an image for a video DVD. |
| 00:13.03 | racoon|birthday | cafuego, regarding mp3 naming? |
| 00:13.12 | kds | I gave the following command $>mkisofs -dvd-video -o swades.img Swades/ |
| 00:13.19 | kds | and I get an error |
| 00:13.25 | cafuego | racoon|birthday: yeah, bash script, an id3 extractor and mv are all you need. |
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| 00:13.31 | ChibaPet | Ooh, linux-nis.org might have answers for me. |
| 00:13.31 | caphuso | for a in *; do id3v2 -A "Das Licht von Atlantis" -t ${${${a:r}#*-}%-*} -T ${${a:r}##*-} $a; done |
| 00:13.42 | kds | INFO: UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale settings. Assuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem, use -input-charset to override. |
| 00:13.57 | kds | mkisofs: Implementation botch. Video pad for file VIDEO_TS.BUP is -16 |
| 00:14.04 | cafuego | caphuso: That's going to bitch and moan if you have too many files. |
| 00:14.06 | kds | mkisofs: Either the *.IFO file is bad or you found a mkisofs bug. |
| 00:14.12 | caphuso | cafuego: no, it's not |
| 00:14.12 | sgeigerbot | caphuso: what does "Das Licht von Atlantis" represent? |
| 00:14.17 | caphuso | sgeigerbot: the title |
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| 00:14.27 | kds | can someone help? |
| 00:14.30 | sgeigerbot | caso that works on only one file at a time? |
| 00:14.34 | cafuego | caphuso: Actually, no :-) |
| 00:14.41 | paulswm | bye, all, stay safe |
| 00:14.45 | sgeigerbot | caphuso: ^^^ |
| 00:15.00 | caphuso | sgeigerbot: yes |
| 00:15.00 | cafuego | sgeigerbot: Yes, for i in *; loops. |
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| 00:16.07 | dabreegster | Hmmm. In /usr/src/modules/alsa-drivers (from alsa-source) I ran ./configure --with-cards=audigyls (because --help said it's supported) but it failed and said not supported. |
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| 00:17.03 | root | is there any way to stop gmplayer from closing everytime a file ends? |
| 00:17.18 | caphuso | root: try -fixed-vo |
| 00:17.29 | root | caphuso, oki, going to try that |
| 00:17.44 | ChibaPet | Any last thoughts about this NIS thing? |
| 00:17.44 | burd | I set up a quota system today and it works fine *sorta*. it manages the quotas but when i set up a 20000kB quota it sent email to the user i made that was not over 20MB. when I check it shows the user having used 34MB but when I check the size of their home directory it is only ~14MB.. |
| 00:17.48 | RedPenguin | I see the APT package list but I don't see where to recompile packages |
| 00:17.48 | Lee__ | dabreegster: check http://www.alsa-project.org for a list of supported cards and their driver names |
| 00:17.56 | SiliconViper | SiliconViper |
| 00:17.57 | RedPenguin | root, that isn't you mikeeusa is it? |
| 00:17.58 | SiliconViper | >_< |
| 00:18.04 | SiliconViper | Wrong button, sorry. |
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| 00:18.09 | dabreegster | Lee__: it's supported and it's called audigyls |
| 00:18.12 | ChibaPet | burd - mail directories? |
| 00:18.32 | ChibaPet | burd - /tmp? other writeable areas? |
| 00:18.52 | burd | ChibaPet: it is brand new and there is only a couple pieces of mail in there. |
| 00:19.14 | burd | ChibaPet: the quota is onyl set up on /home and /var |
| 00:19.18 | ChibaPet | hm |
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| 00:19.24 | caphuso | burd: /var/tmp |
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| 00:19.59 | burd | caphuso just checked and it has no files by that user |
| 00:20.13 | emice- | hey, what command can I use to get the status of a package? I whether it is installed and if so what the version is.. |
| 00:20.17 | burd | I went and installed a webmin module that uses a perl module to check and it shows proper usage |
| 00:20.21 | chitiri | i'm building a package |
| 00:20.22 | caphuso | emice-: dpkg -l foo |
| 00:20.24 | emice- | I checked the aptitude man page, but didn't see anything |
| 00:20.26 | ChibaPet | bbl |
| 00:20.27 | emice- | thanks caphuso |
| 00:20.39 | chitiri | dh_installdocs copy the doc files under /usr/share/<name> |
| 00:20.47 | chitiri | what should I use to get them compressed ? |
| 00:21.18 | chitiri | tried dh_compress usr/share/<name>/README but fails |
| 00:21.43 | caphuso | chitiri: shouldn't that go to /usr/share/doc? |
| 00:22.30 | gusto | :) |
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| 00:23.54 | root | caphuso, thanks :) |
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| 00:26.45 | H4ppy` | ho do i unrar and rar file? |
| 00:26.52 | Rawplayer | unrar file |
| 00:26.58 | tull | rar e file |
| 00:26.59 | caphuso | with unrar and/or rar |
| 00:27.01 | H4ppy` | sorry mend a tar file |
| 00:27.07 | caphuso | H4ppy`: /msg dpkg tar |
| 00:27.37 | torbjorn | how can i avoid rotation of entries in authority section of a ns lookup? |
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| 00:28.10 | samlander | good afternoon |
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| 00:28.17 | H4ppy` | caphusa: didn't understan how i van untar it |
| 00:28.22 | python_ | hi ppl |
| 00:28.27 | H4ppy` | *can |
| 00:28.37 | caphuso | !tar |
| 00:28.37 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2 (potato): "tar xIf foo.tar.bz2"; Extract tar.bz2 (woody or later): "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjz foo.tar.bz2 directory", or install unp and unp whatever.whatever |
| 00:28.42 | samlander | cafuego: are you around? |
| 00:28.48 | chitiri | caphuso: oopss... thought i should go to sleep |
| 00:28.52 | caphuso | how can you not understand that? |
| 00:28.59 | H4ppy` | so i have to write tar xf filename.tar ? |
| 00:29.23 | H4ppy` | thx... ;) |
| 00:29.32 | samlander | can someone help me sort out my mouse woes? |
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| 00:30.08 | Poprocks | karsten, does "Karsten M. Self" mean anything to you? |
| 00:30.19 | quittt | esd is better then dmix |
| 00:30.20 | samlander | im using discover1 and usbhid... i've got xfree86 configured to use /dev/input/mice |
| 00:30.27 | samlander | and x quits because it cant find a mouse |
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| 00:30.59 | caphuso | Poprocks: does "/whois karsten" mean anything to you? :) |
| 00:31.07 | Poprocks | caphuso, no. |
| 00:31.09 | Poprocks | ;-) |
| 00:31.10 | jazzka | which parameter was used to install a .deb file? |
| 00:31.17 | caphuso | jazzka: dpkg -i |
| 00:31.21 | jazzka | I just cant remember... |
| 00:31.23 | jazzka | oh thanks! |
| 00:31.25 | directhex | dpkg -i foo |
| 00:31.26 | quittt | !dmix sux |
| 00:31.44 | quittt | !dmix sux |
| 00:31.57 | directhex | quittt, 1) you're wrong, 2) you're annoying# |
| 00:32.08 | valdyn | quittt: it doent, some applications just do some really stupid things |
| 00:32.12 | valdyn | quittt: it doesnt, some applications just do some really stupid things |
| 00:32.31 | valdyn | quittt: like useing openal and circumventing its flexibility |
| 00:32.32 | samlander | any ideas why x wont start? |
| 00:32.34 | quittt | directhex, let's make it work |
| 00:32.48 | valdyn | quittt: but you can combine both too |
| 00:32.53 | resiak | samlander: Have you got the appropriate module loaded? |
| 00:33.03 | valdyn | quittt: aoss esd - works for me |
| 00:33.16 | directhex | valdyn, you can aoss esd? :o |
| 00:33.49 | quittt | directhex, ok... try play Q3A while playing music |
| 00:33.56 | chealer | directhex: you work in multimedia? |
| 00:34.00 | resiak | quittt: Done it. Next question? |
| 00:34.05 | samlander | *sigh* |
| 00:34.08 | valdyn | directhex: yea, though i have to fix sample rate: aoss esd -r 48000 |
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| 00:34.09 | caphuso | it's possible to make esd play nicely _at all_? |
| 00:34.14 | directhex | quittt, quake 3 is about 7 years old. doom 3 behaves fine. |
| 00:34.15 | resiak | samlander: Did you see what I just said? |
| 00:34.19 | setnf | error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3: What's the correct package that i need ? |
| 00:34.20 | resiak | quittt: aoss quake3 worksforme. |
| 00:34.25 | mabotelh | when I try to start cpufreqd I get a msg saying that no cpufreq interface was found |
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| 00:34.35 | quittt | directhex, and it stills great |
| 00:34.37 | vitriol | is it ok to use sid repos for one set of packages and sarge for everything else? |
| 00:34.38 | resiak | mabotelh: Well, then, no cpufreq interface was found. |
| 00:34.41 | samlander | resiak: nope, i'll check the cache |
| 00:34.47 | vitriol | in this case the set of packages would be mplayer.... |
| 00:34.47 | mabotelh | How can I install it? |
| 00:34.48 | caphuso | setnf: /msg dpkg search |
| 00:34.49 | resiak | quittt: Will you quit going on about this: Quake3 and aoss PLAY NICELY! |
| 00:34.51 | directhex | quittt, it sucked then & sucked now. unreal tournament for life. |
| 00:34.51 | samlander | ah |
| 00:34.53 | chealer | vitriol: yes |
| 00:34.55 | samlander | resiak: i think so |
| 00:34.57 | resiak | samlander: Oh. |
| 00:34.59 | resiak | samlander: mdetect? |
| 00:35.01 | vitriol | chealer: great thanks! |
| 00:35.07 | samlander | resiak: im using usbhid, i have a gyro mouse/keyboard set + usb keyboard |
| 00:35.17 | quittt | resiak, haha |
| 00:35.29 | chealer | vitriol: mplayer isn't in debian anyway |
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| 00:35.41 | directhex | vitriol, yes you can do it. /msg dpkg quick sid/sarge mix |
| 00:35.44 | vitriol | chealer: i know, but i'm getting it from ftp.nerim.net |
| 00:35.48 | quittt | resiak, do you think that I want a stupid emulation like that?? so I need to edit all menus in my gnome menu to put this command?? haha |
| 00:36.13 | valdyn | quittt: no you dont |
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| 00:36.28 | samlander | resiak: no output from mdetect |
| 00:36.35 | valdyn | quittt: just export LD_PRELOAD=blah in ~/.xsession for example |
| 00:36.37 | samlander | resiak: x complains that it cant find /dev/input/mice |
| 00:36.39 | setnf | caphuso: dpkg knows nothing about it :) |
| 00:36.44 | samlander | !usbmouse |
| 00:36.45 | dpkg | To use a USB mouse, do the following: [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe hid and mousedev by hand); it should beep at you when USB devices are (un)plugged. [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X |
| 00:36.46 | resiak | samlander: Yeah, I can read. |
| 00:36.47 | caphuso | setnf: /msg dpkg search |
| 00:36.47 | setnf | error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3: What's the correct package that i need ? |
| 00:36.53 | valdyn | quittt: cat /usr/bin/aoss - that tool doesnt do much at all |
| 00:36.57 | Davidcc6 | how can i share a printer (laser jet 6l ) from my debian to a windows xp, the printer is installed bye cups |
| 00:37.02 | resiak | quittt: Uh, just edit the q3 entry in the menu. |
| 00:37.05 | samlander | hmmm |
| 00:37.09 | directhex | /usr/lib/libaoss.so |
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| 00:37.37 | directhex | you know, i think this is a bit like speaking to broccoli. /me really can't be arsed |
| 00:37.41 | chealer | Davidcc6: use samba |
| 00:37.51 | resiak | samlander: Have you tried different drivers in d-r x-x? |
| 00:37.59 | atrus | anybody here particularly good with udev rules? |
| 00:38.00 | sgeigerbot | Davidcc6: samba |
| 00:38.04 | resiak | directhex: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Go watch Magical Trevor II |
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| 00:38.10 | directhex | resiak, ragu! |
| 00:38.13 | resiak | directhex: udev.rules :) |
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| 00:38.29 | resiak | directhex: On Aisle 2 |
| 00:38.50 | cafuego | directhex: can you do me a favour? |
| 00:38.56 | directhex | cafuego, depends what it is |
| 00:39.07 | cafuego | directhex: Check a web site, i'll msg you the uri |
| 00:39.27 | directhex | cafuego, this isn't Captain Gaping Anus is it? |
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| 00:39.39 | vchrizz | uhm, i check with ps -A | awk '/sc_serv0/ {print $1}' for running sc_serv0 process, but ive got sc_serv0[1-9] running too, so how do i check that correctly? |
| 00:39.42 | cafuego | directhex: http://vpn.mel.cc.com.au/ |
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| 00:40.11 | quittt | trq |
| 00:40.19 | cafuego | Sheesh! Who the hell here has irssi ripping down any uri it sees? |
| 00:40.22 | quittt | resiak, aoss is so great that crashed Q3A |
| 00:40.31 | Rawplayer | www.irssi.org? |
| 00:40.45 | cafuego | 68.184.148.196 - - [07/Feb/2005:11:39:48 +1100] "HEAD / HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "IrssiUrlLog/0.2" |
| 00:40.46 | resiak | quittt: Your loss, I guess. WORKSFORME. |
| 00:41.00 | RedPenguin | What is a good tool to run on a system to tell you like how long it took to DNS this and that and load this page? |
| 00:41.00 | cafuego | Like .3 seconds after I posted that url |
| 00:41.02 | quittt | your loss? |
| 00:41.11 | cunumen | How do I save the output of a grep command to a file? |
| 00:41.20 | resiak | quittt: I don't know what you've done differently. |
| 00:41.21 | cafuego | cunumen: grep foo bar > frog |
| 00:41.22 | directhex | cafuego, what am i after? |
| 00:41.22 | valdyn | !pipe |
| 00:41.22 | dpkg | | |
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| 00:41.31 | cunumen | thanks |
| 00:41.32 | valdyn | !redirect |
| 00:41.32 | resiak | valdyn: Uh, not a pipe here :) |
| 00:41.33 | dpkg | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 00:41.38 | cafuego | directhex: it it accessibl;e? Yes, i suppose.. that's all I need :-) |
| 00:41.40 | vchrizz | is it possible to grep for \n ? |
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| 00:41.53 | valdyn | resiak: yea =/ |
| 00:42.01 | vchrizz | is it possible to grep for \n ? -> to grep sc_serv0\n (so sc_serv01 arent affected) |
| 00:42.02 | resiak | vchrizz: Try it, but you'll probably kinda get every line :) |
| 00:42.08 | directhex | bah, i need an ogg or something |
| 00:42.10 | Agrajag- | hey all, im trying to mount an nfs share, but get "mount: RPC: program not registered" - and yes, portmap is running, and rpcinfo does list nfs and mountd. any ideas? |
| 00:42.14 | resiak | directhex: Want one? |
| 00:42.28 | samlander | resiak: say again, i didnt understadn |
| 00:42.33 | cafuego | vchrizz: sc_serv0$ |
| 00:42.34 | dabreegster | Once I finish getting these kernel headers, do I just run module-assistant install alsa again? |
| 00:42.34 | directhex | resiak, i cam make one. just toying with aoss esd |
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| 00:42.59 | cafuego | vchrizz: Basically, 'sc_serv0' at the end of a line only. |
| 00:43.05 | resiak | samlander: I think I said words to the effect of "uh, I have no idea". |
| 00:43.20 | samlander | resiak: roger |
| 00:43.27 | resiak | directhex: Or you could listen to WIEB :) |
| 00:43.30 | samlander | cafuego: hey |
| 00:43.35 | cafuego | samlander: whut? |
| 00:43.36 | vchrizz | cafuego: ah, thx ;) |
| 00:43.46 | cafuego | Stop harassing the old people. |
| 00:43.48 | samlander | cafuego: can you help me with my x issue? it doesnt seem to want to read my mouse anymore |
| 00:43.55 | samlander | cafuego: i dont know why. |
| 00:44.02 | cafuego | samlander: I'm working atm, deadline... |
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| 00:44.07 | samlander | cafuego: roger that |
| 00:44.08 | resiak | samlander: Oh, no, I remember what I said. |
| 00:44.11 | resiak | !drxx |
| 00:44.11 | dpkg | i heard drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
| 00:44.18 | resiak | samlander: Run that, and try different drivers. |
| 00:44.22 | samlander | resiak: yep, did that |
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| 00:44.38 | samlander | resiak: it's very odd. |
| 00:44.53 | samlander | resiak: if i unplug and plug the gyro set, discover reads it no problem |
| 00:45.10 | samlander | resiak: i just wish I understood how it connects the mouse device to /dev/input/mice |
| 00:45.17 | samlander | resiak: that would give me a place to start debugging |
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| 00:47.06 | samlander | stupid script kiddies.. why they gotta pull that shit |
| 00:47.07 | cafuego | Honest to god, it IS turning into DAlnet |
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| 00:47.35 | cafuego | AT least this time debhelper worked. |
| 00:47.36 | sussudio | kawfee's probably bored again |
| 00:47.40 | directhex | not like clean wholesome quakenet at all :/ |
| 00:47.43 | Rawplayer | few |
| 00:47.46 | samlander | hmmm.. im gonna try the x11 chan, maybe they know why it's fubard |
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| 00:47.51 | Rawplayer | i couldnt hold my breath longer |
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| 00:48.17 | quittt | I gave up |
| 00:48.19 | quittt | there is no good mixing app for Linux |
| 00:48.21 | quittt | gave up |
| 00:48.29 | Rawplayer | alsamixergui? |
| 00:48.37 | sussudio | quittt: aumix? |
| 00:48.37 | samlander | quittt: when in doubt... wine. |
| 00:48.45 | sussudio | !whine |
| 00:48.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, whine is saying "I want you to hold my hand while I install debian because I'm too lazy to read the docs!" |
| 00:49.06 | directhex | gnome-alsamixer! |
| 00:49.12 | cafuego | directhex: indeed. |
| 00:49.29 | dabreegster | valdyn: I hate to keep asking questions, but what do I do once kernel-headers-2.6-386 is installed? Run module-assistant install alsa again? |
| 00:49.33 | quittt | I mean mixing two sounds |
| 00:49.39 | quittt | there is no great one for Linux |
| 00:49.41 | quittt | all sux |
| 00:49.47 | burd | quitt: ardour-gtk |
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| 00:49.49 | cafuego | quittt: Sure there is. You're just not looking. |
| 00:49.53 | dabreegster | !wine |
| 00:49.53 | dpkg | rumour has it, wine is at http://www.winehq.com/. It stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator or alternative win32 API. very buggy, will be a major part of the death of M$. The sources.list lines are: deb http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main, deb-src http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main. apt-get install shiraz, or a tasty alcoholic beverage. |
| 00:49.57 | quittt | cafuego, tell me |
| 00:50.08 | cafuego | quittt: I don't know of any, never needed one. |
| 00:50.14 | nar | I have a problem with debian failing to reboot with 2.4.27-2-686-smp, it shuts down but does not reboot. Can anyone point me in the correct direction for documentation. |
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| 00:50.17 | python_ | dous anyone know of a good bittorent server for debian |
| 00:50.30 | gravity | bittorrent server for debian? |
| 00:50.34 | gravity | What does that mean? |
| 00:50.47 | burd | quittt: you are wanting to edit audio right? |
| 00:50.51 | quittt | NO! |
| 00:50.58 | caphuso | gravity: it probably means a complete misunderstanding of how bittorrent works |
| 00:51.02 | cafuego | gravity: That's a piece of buggy python software used for putting the server load on 60+ |
| 00:51.07 | python_ | i want to make a bunch of iso avalible for ppl to download |
| 00:51.10 | gravity | cafuego: That's what I think too |
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| 00:51.13 | dabreegster | quittt: you're trying to mix two sounds? dunno if you tried this, but esd. |
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| 00:51.23 | gravity | caphuso: Indeed |
| 00:51.26 | quittt | esd doesnt work for all apps |
| 00:51.29 | vchrizz | cafuego: could you please take a look at this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/dpnFDB39.html |
| 00:51.30 | quittt | dmix doesnt work too |
| 00:51.38 | quittt | arts doesnt too |
| 00:51.53 | quittt | so |
| 00:51.56 | quittt | none of them work |
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| 00:52.11 | whiny | gimme an orkut invite please |
| 00:52.17 | tarzeau | email? |
| 00:52.20 | nSe | i'm having problems on mounting my msdos hd, windowsxp in it isn't initializing... i have very important stuff there so i need to mount it somehow, is there some way to mount it forced? |
| 00:52.36 | gravity | whiny: You don't want that |
| 00:52.45 | whiny | gravity: what's better ? |
| 00:52.51 | tarzeau | www.gazzag.com |
| 00:53.05 | gravity | whiny: I don't know. I hear good things about myspace I guess, but I think they all suck |
| 00:53.09 | caphuso | wow, awk called inside a perl script |
| 00:53.27 | resiak | nSe: Is it an ntfs partition? |
| 00:53.33 | gravity | That's... wow... a waste |
| 00:53.34 | sussudio | quittt: audacity? |
| 00:53.37 | sussudio | !info audacity |
| 00:53.38 | sgeigerbot | How can I make sshd use /dev/log to log to syslog? |
| 00:53.39 | dpkg | audacity: (A fast, cross-platform audio editor), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1610 kB, Installed size: 4680 kB |
| 00:53.42 | tarzeau | gravity: awk? awk's great |
| 00:53.46 | resiak | sussudio: Are you trying to irritate him? :) |
| 00:53.49 | tarzeau | gravity: but i agree perl's waste if you meant that |
| 00:53.54 | sussudio | resiak: meh? |
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| 00:54.01 | sgeigerbot | Audacity is a free audio editor. You can record sounds, play sounds, import and export WAV, AIFF, and MP3 files, and more. Use it to edit your sounds using Cut, Copy and Paste (with unlimited Undo), mix tracks together, or apply effects to your recordings. It also has a built-in amplitude envelope editor, a customizable spectrogram mode and a frequency analysis window for audio analysis applications. Built-in effects include Bas |
| 00:54.01 | sgeigerbot | s Boost, Wahwah, and noise removal, and it also supports VST plug-in effects. |
| 00:54.16 | resiak | sussudio: He's talking dmix/esd style mixing. |
| 00:54.19 | sussudio | !aolify sgeigerbot |
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| 00:54.24 | sgeigerbot | moo |
| 00:54.35 | directhex | perhaps what quittt has here is what ahppens when closed source code isn'ty updated to reflect 8 years of os developments. once quake 3 is opened up, it'll work fine with all the sound servers |
| 00:54.38 | gravity | tarzeau: I love awk too, but if you're already using perl pulling out awk sucks |
| 00:54.58 | Geert | They are all klined |
| 00:55.33 | quittt | directhex, tell me a good opensource game |
| 00:55.35 | quittt | there isnt |
| 00:55.39 | quittt | and there will never be |
| 00:55.41 | resiak | SUPERTUX! |
| 00:55.42 | tarzeau | quittt: jumpnbump, nethack |
| 00:55.45 | tarzeau | quittt: THERE IS! |
| 00:55.49 | tarzeau | quittt: www.mtp-target.org |
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| 00:55.54 | chealer | tuxracer! |
| 00:55.58 | tarzeau | resiak: yeah! i hold him, you beat him! |
| 00:56.04 | quittt | chealer, compare tux racer with Doom III |
| 00:56.09 | sussudio | tarzeau: gnustep on slashdot |
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| 00:56.13 | dabreegster | I'm trying to get a module for my audigy ls soundcard for alsa. I've got the alsa-source package and a kernel-header package is downloading. Before, I used module-assistant install alsa and it failed. Once I get the kernel headers, do I just try mod-assistant again or is there something else I do? |
| 00:56.14 | quittt | it is impossible |
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| 00:56.23 | tarzeau | sussudio: i know :) i survived with my isp's crap link of 0.04mbit/s |
| 00:56.23 | resiak | quittt: QuakeIII is going to be GPLed in the fairly near future, apparently. |
| 00:56.26 | sgeigerbot | resiak: use that on sussudio |
| 00:56.29 | samlander | question: how can i ask apt what usb stuff i have installed? |
| 00:56.35 | samlander | i think i have a usb mgr issue |
| 00:56.51 | tarzeau | sussudio: removed comments from html, outsourced all graphics/download links |
| 00:56.51 | sgeigerbot | samlander: Debian Package Management Info: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html or http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.html or (tarzeau's) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ or (thanks za) apt-get install apt-howto-en or (if you forget) /msg apt mgmt or /msg apt pkgmgmt |
| 00:57.01 | nSe | [resiak] dunno, it's just windowsxp in the normal way, why? is there some chance for me? |
| 00:57.12 | resiak | burd: It runs natively. |
| 00:57.16 | burd | ahhh |
| 00:57.28 | tarzeau | sussudio: AND! i've got a new <title> for livecd.gnustep.org ;) |
| 00:57.45 | Lo_Meinix | Take a look at this.....http://www.flightlevel350.com/picwindow.php?cat=19&pic=295 <---dumbass of the year award |
| 00:57.55 | resiak | nSe: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp # substitute the correct device and mount point. |
| 00:58.05 | sgeigerbot | Lo_Meinix: sussudio? |
| 00:58.07 | samlander | is it a flag on apt-cache search? |
| 00:58.24 | resiak | samlander: dpkg -l | grep usb |
| 00:58.28 | Lo_Meinix | sgeigerbot: whats sussudio? |
| 00:58.35 | sgeigerbot | Lo_Meinix: the "winner" |
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| 00:59.25 | bowman | hi... I just installed acroread, and the menus have fonts that are huuuge. it's a static binary - what am I supposed to do now? |
| 00:59.30 | nvz | resiak: of course you know in Soviet Russia, stick pokes you |
| 00:59.32 | directhex | quittt, quake 2 is a good random example you're not expecting |
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| 00:59.40 | directhex | quittt, but Neverball is one of the best examples |
| 00:59.45 | resiak | burd: Use xpdf. |
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| 00:59.50 | simonrvn | bowman: dpkg -P acroread |
| 01:00.05 | simonrvn | bowman: apt-get install xpdf |
| 01:00.09 | resiak | nvz: Clearly. |
| 01:00.26 | simonrvn | nvz: as always |
| 01:00.30 | dabreegs1er | Sorry, got kicked offline. Anyway, I'm trying to get my new audigy ls soundlbaster card to work. Alsaconf didn't find it, so I got alsa-source and tried to install them with module-assistant. It failed and valdyn told me I needed kernel headers, and I'm downloading those now. My question is: What do I do once the headers are finished? |
| 01:00.31 | valdyn | bowman: adjust X dpi setting to a reasonable value ( startx -dpi 75 , or man XF86Config-4, search for DisplaySize ) |
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| 01:00.46 | jacobo_ | everytime I reboot my system, alsa is mute. i went into dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base and set it to "every time", but nothing... any help, please? |
| 01:00.49 | nSe | [resiak] xp normally work into ntsf? does mount support it ? |
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| 01:01.23 | dabreegs1er | jacobo_: you could set up a simple script in your .bashrc to unmute it? |
| 01:01.34 | setnf | error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3: Oh shit i search and install all packages with libstdc name and nothing... what's the correct package name ? |
| 01:01.48 | directhex | !find libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 |
| 01:02.03 | jacobo_ | dabreegs1er: I'd like alsta to remember it's config through system reboots |
| 01:02.04 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3' returned no results. |
| 01:02.05 | resiak | nSe: I just told you how... |
| 01:02.19 | dabreegs1er | jacobo_: I dunno |
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| 01:02.21 | sgeigerbot | simonrvn: I like acroread, but it's 20 honkin' megs! |
| 01:02.28 | nSe | [resiak] thanks, i'll try it! |
| 01:02.42 | jacobo_ | inf cat, alsa used to remember it's config through system reboots, but I had to completly reinstall my debian yersterday (HD power failure :-S) and now it doesn't |
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| 01:02.49 | setnf | directhex: :/ and now ? |
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| 01:03.03 | resiak | nSe: You'll have to alter what I said to match your partitioning and where you want to mount it. |
| 01:03.09 | directhex | setnf, playing with redhat binaries or something? |
| 01:03.22 | setnf | directhex: not really ... psoproxy ... |
| 01:03.41 | valdyn | !find alsactl |
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| 01:03.48 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'alsactl' (1 shown): (/usr/sbin/alsactl) in sound/alsa-utils. |
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| 01:03.59 | nSe | [resiak] i understand it, i just asked if normal mount support ntfs fs, does it ? |
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| 01:04.06 | chealer | what do I need to get /dev/sequencer? |
| 01:04.08 | valdyn | jacobo_: probably apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 01:04.21 | dabreegs1er | OK, kernel-headers-2.6-386 installed. Do I try module-assistant install alsa again? |
| 01:04.24 | resiak | nSe: If your kernel supports it, which the stock Debian kernels do, then you can _read_ NTFS. |
| 01:04.25 | valdyn | !find /etc/init.d/alsa |
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| 01:04.34 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of '/etc/init.d/alsa' returned no results. |
| 01:05.00 | directhex | alsa-base: etc/init.d/alsa |
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| 01:05.10 | atrus | i have two mice on my system, one is really a mouse. the other is really just a scroll-wheel built into my keyboard. I can get one or the other working fine, but I can't get both working simultaneously. It seems to be a problem with having two CorePointers in my X configuration. Suggestions/pontiers? |
| 01:05.16 | Maneit | Hi! How can I detect what irda-chip my laptop is using? |
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| 01:05.28 | directhex | !devinputmice |
| 01:05.28 | jacobo_ | valdyn: it is already installed ;) |
| 01:05.28 | dpkg | always ALWAYS pick /dev/input/mice, regardless. no really. Yes, even on a 2.4 kernel, even with PS/2. The rest should take care of itself. |
| 01:05.46 | tull | what is the kernel-header for? |
| 01:05.56 | setnf | wcb: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_testing_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 01:05.56 | setnf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:06.04 | dabreegs1er | tull: I was told I needed kernel headers to get this alsa driver compiled |
| 01:06.30 | simonrvn | setnf: just run it again |
| 01:06.42 | setnf | i run it again and nothing... simonrvn |
| 01:06.44 | setnf | same error |
| 01:07.24 | simonrvn | setnf: what's the line in sources.list that you have? |
| 01:07.43 | nSe | [resiak] hmm... my kernel is the current stable, but got just the cd to make the network install (by LordStuch) so i'm not sure |
| 01:07.58 | dabreegs1er | Same error in module-assistant. What do I try now? (trying to get a alsa module) |
| 01:08.11 | simonrvn | setnf: BTW, there aren't going to be security updates until it's released, or a bit before |
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| 01:09.04 | simonrvn | hello zinx |
| 01:09.23 | resiak | nSe: Uh, the Woody install kernels don't do NTFS> |
| 01:09.26 | Maneit | Nobody knows how to find which irda chip my laptop uses? :) |
| 01:09.42 | simonrvn | tried lspci yet? |
| 01:09.46 | Maneit | yes |
| 01:09.58 | Maneit | doesn't say a thing about irda |
| 01:10.03 | samlander | ok... that's screwed. |
| 01:10.11 | samlander | remove discover, install usbmgr, poof. mouse works |
| 01:10.11 | Maneit | indeed |
| 01:10.21 | sander__ | hi, when I do a dist-upgrade on my unstable I get the following error: |
| 01:10.24 | sander__ | Failed to fetch http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-bin_1.1.3-4_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch |
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| 01:10.42 | sander__ | Does this mean the file is bad on the repository? |
| 01:11.08 | simonrvn | discover is useful once or twice. dpkg -P discover once you've figured out what's needed (say, not showing in lspci or /proc or /sys) |
| 01:11.26 | simonrvn | sander__: update first |
| 01:11.40 | nvz | sander__: more likely corrupted during transmission but it means it doesnt match the md5sum provided by the site |
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| 01:12.10 | nSe | [resiak] so my mount do it? |
| 01:12.19 | sander__ | simonrvn, I did update first and I've downloaded it a couple of times now. |
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| 01:12.41 | sander__ | Thanks for the clarifiation nvz |
| 01:12.51 | dvs | What's the score? |
| 01:13.11 | Rawplayer | 7-7 |
| 01:13.15 | resiak | nSe: It's not mount that's the problem; as far as I know, Woody's install kernels don't do NTFS. |
| 01:13.17 | dvs | Cool |
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| 01:13.34 | PerfDave | Why do you need NTFS while installing Woody? |
| 01:13.38 | setnf | wcb: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_testing_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 01:13.39 | setnf | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.46 | setnf | what's the problem? |
| 01:13.51 | simonrvn | sander__: then it's what nvz said |
| 01:13.52 | Rawplayer | setnf: apt-get -f install |
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| 01:14.15 | Rawplayer | then run apt-get update again and try to install the file after it again with apt-get install |
| 01:14.16 | setnf | Rawplayer: same error |
| 01:14.20 | nSe | [resiak] so i'm fucked, how can i do it? |
| 01:14.21 | Rawplayer | o |
| 01:14.23 | Rawplayer | hmm |
| 01:14.33 | resiak | nSe: What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 01:14.42 | sander__ | OK thanks. I'll try again tomorrow. |
| 01:14.45 | setnf | Rawplayer: not file i jsut type apt-get update.. |
| 01:14.58 | setnf | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 111 2005-02-04 15:01 security.debian.org_dists_testing_updates_main_binary-i386_Release |
| 01:15.02 | setnf | the file exists.. |
| 01:15.13 | setnf | and this erros tell me that not exists |
| 01:15.32 | simonrvn | run dselect update |
| 01:15.37 | CAT | Whats wrong with apt |
| 01:15.44 | simonrvn | or aptitude update if you prefer |
| 01:15.57 | simonrvn | (i'd do the dselect one though) |
| 01:16.22 | uGexe | i have killed all vnc sessions and dpkg --purge xfce4 and yet when i connect with tightvnc, i am still seeing xfce4.. why |
| 01:16.25 | setnf | same error simonrvn ... |
| 01:16.34 | setnf | i always type it.. |
| 01:16.56 | simonrvn | rm the file, do it again. if it still pukes, then run an fsck on that partition |
| 01:17.14 | simonrvn | still sunday here |
| 01:17.25 | resiak | :lose simonrvn |
| 01:17.25 | Rawplayer | lucky you |
| 01:17.29 | CAT | The demon must start on start up |
| 01:17.31 | directhex | it's always sunday in here |
| 01:17.31 | Rawplayer | here its monday already :) |
| 01:17.39 | setnf | simonrvn: W: You may want to update the package lists to correct these missing files |
| 01:17.47 | resiak | At this point, 700 people report their timezones. |
| 01:17.48 | tazle | hmm, is the initrd supposed to set up a /dev/shm? |
| 01:17.48 | simonrvn | do so |
| 01:17.57 | simonrvn | no |
| 01:18.24 | CAT | Yeah taz |
| 01:18.37 | tazle | what if I don't have an initrd?-) |
| 01:18.43 | setnf | simonrvn: i removed and it was created again .. but same error... |
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| 01:19.10 | simonrvn | no. /etc/init.d/mountvirtfs |
| 01:19.28 | CAT | Taz install it |
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| 01:19.54 | simonrvn | CAT: what are you doing? |
| 01:20.00 | sander__ | thanks for the help people. |
| 01:20.20 | CAT | Nothing y |
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| 01:20.44 | simonrvn | fi |
| 01:20.44 | simonrvn | domount tmpfs shmfs /dev/shm $tmpfs_opt |
| 01:20.53 | CAT | !Init |
| 01:20.54 | dpkg | rumour has it, init is the init daemon |
| 01:20.55 | R4Ndom | During setup, I installed DNS, web, and other servers... where are they? |
| 01:21.30 | simonrvn | R4Ndom: don't install stuff you're not going to use. don't install stuff you don't know what it's for |
| 01:21.30 | vulture | R4Ndom: installed, running, etc.. in the appropriate debian policy specified locations |
| 01:21.36 | CAT | Check on etc |
| 01:21.39 | vulture | configs in /etc, docs in /usr/share/docs, etc.. |
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| 01:22.10 | R4Ndom | I do.. I'd like to start a web server and ftp server, and possibly dns |
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| 01:22.28 | setnf | simonrvn: could i delete all files and try again with another mirror ? |
| 01:22.43 | CAT | Doc are my life |
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| 01:22.52 | simonrvn | R4Ndom: then you'll want to see dpkg -L apache bind9 [and whatever ftpd you installed] |
| 01:22.55 | setnf | eno: Some index files failed x |
| 01:22.55 | setnf | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.00 | setnf | i i got it now.. |
| 01:23.03 | R4Ndom | okay |
| 01:23.20 | CAT | Star apache |
| 01:23.22 | tazle | simonrvn: hmm, right, guess I forgot CONFIG_TMPFS |
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| 01:23.39 | sparr | i want to take all my pending (in the mail spool) email and forward it as if I had a ~/.forward file set up when it arrived. is this possible? |
| 01:24.05 | simonrvn | setnf: no need. ad there is no other mirros of security.debian.org. like i already told you, sarge isn't getting security updates it's released and a bit before release |
| 01:24.27 | simonrvn | tazle: that would do it |
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| 01:24.33 | resiak | CAT: What are you trying to achieve? |
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| 01:24.55 | simonrvn | CAT is just sputtering nonsense |
| 01:24.59 | setnf | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.59 | setnf | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.07 | CAT | Spar every thing is possible |
| 01:25.18 | debian | CAT: owner |
| 01:25.39 | tull | drivers/scsi/cpqfcTScontrol.c:610:2: #error This is too much stack |
| 01:25.39 | tull | drivers/scsi/cpqfcTScontrol.c:722:2: #error This is too much stack |
| 01:25.39 | tull | make[4]: *** [drivers/scsi/cpqfcTScontrol.o] Error 1 |
| 01:25.44 | tull | what does this mean? |
| 01:25.53 | H4ppy` | I'm trying to start a file named "etadmin_pro.sh" and to start it have to write ./etadmin_pro.sh start, it starts fine, but it says push a button, and then it shuts down, now how i can make it not shut down? |
| 01:26.07 | CAT | I want to hack this nick name |
| 01:26.10 | tull | trying to compile the kernel by the way. |
| 01:26.16 | sussudio | hmm |
| 01:26.24 | simonrvn | !ops CAT ) I want to hack this nick name |
| 01:26.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: CAT ) I want to hack this nick name |
| 01:26.25 | sussudio | is cat being a tard again? |
| 01:26.40 | helix | what the fuck? |
| 01:26.42 | bob2 | CAT: piss off |
| 01:26.54 | debian | helix: good to see you now |
| 01:27.03 | caphuso | that's hardly something a mere channel op can solve |
| 01:27.12 | H4ppy` | anyone whom knows what i have to do? |
| 01:27.28 | resiak | H4ppy`: Read its manual? |
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| 01:27.48 | debian | H4ppy`: vi etadmin_pro.sh |
| 01:27.52 | sussudio | H4ppy`: that doesn't like something that's in debian |
| 01:27.53 | simonrvn | H4ppy`: sh -x the script, see where it exits, then fix whatever makes it exit inappropriately |
| 01:27.56 | nvz | does dancer consider CAT and cat to be the same nick? |
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| 01:28.12 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: I don't think that's cat, actually... |
| 01:28.16 | caphuso | nvz: yes |
| 01:28.17 | toresbe | Minor off-topic-ness |
| 01:28.19 | H4ppy` | thx, i'll see what i can do |
| 01:28.39 | nvz | then yeah cat is registered, and CAT is a registered tradmark of that machinery company |
| 01:28.47 | zignig | meow |
| 01:28.50 | toresbe | if I have an HTML document in oldcomp/, and I want to link to ../software, how do I do this? |
| 01:29.01 | caphuso | toresbe: man ln |
| 01:29.01 | debian | H4ppy`: sometime obvious is ignored. :) |
| 01:29.05 | simonrvn | with a symlink |
| 01:29.14 | toresbe | caphuso: Well, I meant with an a href |
| 01:29.16 | resiak | toresbe: <a href="../software"> |
| 01:29.23 | resiak | toresbe: Or does that not work? |
| 01:29.28 | toresbe | resiak: Hm? last time I checked that didn't work |
| 01:29.37 | resiak | toresbe: I don't think that you do, then. |
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| 01:29.46 | setnf | simonrvn: i got the correct problem... when i run sources.list with security i got that error when i comment it run ok .. do you know say to me whats the problem ? |
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| 01:30.16 | simonrvn | setnf: i also asked you to show me what you have in sources.list for that line. you haven't yet |
| 01:30.17 | H4ppy` | well, i checked it, and it doesn't seem to have any thing wrong in it... |
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| 01:30.34 | setnf | simonrvn: can i paste "? |
| 01:30.43 | simonrvn | #flood |
| 01:30.48 | simonrvn | or paster bot |
| 01:31.23 | toresbe | resiak: strange, it works now |
| 01:31.24 | H4ppy` | it starts, and as debian always do, when a program has started it says "press a key to continue" it says this when the program has started |
| 01:31.35 | toresbe | resiak: Oh well, thankers :) |
| 01:31.42 | resiak | toresbe: :) |
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| 01:32.37 | toresbe | Debian see, Debian do :P |
| 01:32.59 | caphuso | i can't remember that i ever had to press a key after starting a program |
| 01:33.03 | resiak | No, I mean, I've never seen "press a key to continueE". |
| 01:33.22 | resiak | s/E// |
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| 01:33.33 | Scp2004- | [resiak] did i lost something? connection broken, about mount and ntsf ? |
| 01:33.54 | uGexe | what file do i edit to change the default window manager |
| 01:33.59 | directhex | Scp2004-, _NTFS_. New Technology File System. |
| 01:34.06 | toresbe | uGexe: With xinit? |
| 01:34.08 | caphuso | uGexe: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 01:34.12 | directhex | uGexe, update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 01:34.24 | directhex | or x-session-manager too iirc |
| 01:35.11 | Scp2004- | oh shit, my gosth still there, hey resiak, it's nse |
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| 01:36.02 | samlander | !tar |
| 01:36.02 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2 (potato): "tar xIf foo.tar.bz2"; Extract tar.bz2 (woody or later): "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjz foo.tar.bz2 directory", or install unp and unp whatever.whatever |
| 01:36.52 | nvz | is there a tool for reading uninstalled manpages? I dont want to install 20+ packages to read this manpage |
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| 01:37.04 | vulture | nvz: just google for them.. |
| 01:37.09 | bob2 | how could that possibly work? |
| 01:37.11 | directhex | nvz, "google" |
| 01:37.19 | caphuso | nvz: there are about a gazillions sites online that have man2html or something available |
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| 01:37.35 | Scp2004- | ok, i'll ask again: can i mount a ntfs wiht woody? if not, how can i do my xp, it's in trouble, so i need stuff from it... |
| 01:37.39 | vulture | nvz: and why do you want to read the man pages without the utilities themselves? aren't the package descriptions enough to decide whether you need the package? |
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| 01:37.45 | bob2 | Scp2004-: of course |
| 01:37.48 | bob2 | read-only. |
| 01:38.10 | stu8 | the package descriptions are good... but kind of lacking sometimes |
| 01:38.18 | simonrvn | vulture: nope. never :P |
| 01:38.24 | nvz | vulture: I want to ref docs for someone else without having to install the packages |
| 01:38.26 | simonrvn | j/k |
| 01:38.34 | directhex | Scp2004-, you might need a proper 2.4 kernel - 2.2.20-idewhatever or 2.4.18strippedcleanofusefulthings probanly lack the ability |
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| 01:38.46 | Scp2004- | [bob2] resiak said that woody does not do ntfs, what's wrong!? |
| 01:38.49 | fas3r | hi all |
| 01:38.59 | FieldySnuts | @do ntfs |
| 01:39.00 | bob2 | Scp2004-: resiak is confused, it seems. |
| 01:39.04 | baver | is there any way to use the new(er) debian installer with a firewire network connection to do an install? |
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| 01:39.13 | simonrvn | Scp2004-: the install kernel. get a real one |
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| 01:39.15 | bob2 | baver: #debian-boot would know |
| 01:39.20 | baver | bob2: thanks |
| 01:39.33 | simonrvn | @real kernel |
| 01:39.33 | ravenbird | real kernel is probably The Debian install kernels are meant for just that: installing. If you want things like wide module support and netfilter, install a proper kernel. 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-386' will see you through, if you have no idea. |
| 01:39.40 | resiak | bob2: resiak said that the Woody install kernel doesn't do ntfs. |
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| 01:39.48 | bob2 | resiak: ok then, Scp2004- is confused |
| 01:39.55 | simonrvn | very |
| 01:40.05 | PerfDave | stu8: apt-cache depends, apt-cache rdepends |
| 01:40.07 | fas3r | do yopu know if debian had release a distrib with kernel 2.6.*??? |
| 01:40.15 | PerfDave | fas3r: No |
| 01:40.19 | dvs | fas3r: not officially |
| 01:40.22 | caphuso | not yet |
| 01:40.22 | directhex | fas3r, sarge can do 2.6 or 2.4 installs. |
| 01:40.25 | Scp2004- | [bob2] resiak: that's right, i'm confused |
| 01:40.28 | fas3r | they are just mandrake |
| 01:40.41 | PerfDave | Who are just mandrake? |
| 01:40.43 | resiak | Scp2004-: You can't do NTFS with the Woody install kernel. Get a Real Kernel. |
| 01:40.46 | stu8 | thx PerfDave |
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| 01:40.55 | PerfDave | I wish I were mandrake, I'd be in the ground, sleeping. |
| 01:41.00 | fas3r | lol one say no and a other one yes |
| 01:41.04 | tull | resiak which one is that? |
| 01:41.06 | simonrvn | PerfDave: heh |
| 01:41.07 | resiak | I wish I were Fedora, I'd be on someone's head. |
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| 01:41.23 | directhex | fas3r, sarge hasn';t technically been released yet |
| 01:41.24 | PerfDave | fas3r: No released version of Debian has a 2.6 kernel. Unreleased versions of Debian do. |
| 01:41.29 | caphuso | i wish i were gentoo... on a second thought, no i DON'T! |
| 01:41.30 | dvs | fas3r: I didn't say yes. Sarge isn't officially release but you can still use its installer |
| 01:41.40 | simonrvn | PerfDave: ... "leave me the fuck alone!" |
| 01:41.43 | nvz | mandrake has bought into other projects like win4lin and shit |
| 01:41.44 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 01:41.46 | fas3r | ok |
| 01:41.51 | directhex | fas3r, you can download it and install it, and it's more stable than most distributions, but it's not technically been released |
| 01:41.57 | stu8 | I wish I had debian... oh wait... I DO... I DO have debian :) |
| 01:42.00 | simonrvn | caphuso: you ricer |
| 01:42.08 | directhex | i wish i were BEERnix |
| 01:42.16 | fas3r | and do you know where it's possible a dl debian sarge with kernel 2.6.* |
| 01:42.20 | simonrvn | mmm, rice wine |
| 01:42.24 | Scp2004- | [resiak] why i'm with install kernel, my woody is already installed |
| 01:42.25 | vladster | I have a wee question, could anyone recommend a refference book that could be used as a handbook and study guide for Debian? |
| 01:42.25 | ^c | !beer directhex |
| 01:42.25 | resiak | caphuso: What's wrong with being a penguin. |
| 01:42.26 | directhex | !d-i fas3r |
| 01:42.26 | PerfDave | fas3r: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 01:42.27 | dpkg | fas3r, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:42.31 | Rawplayer | !wine |
| 01:42.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, wine is at http://www.winehq.com/. It stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator or alternative win32 API. very buggy, will be a major part of the death of M$. The sources.list lines are: deb http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main, deb-src http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main. apt-get install shiraz, or a tasty alcoholic beverage. |
| 01:42.32 | resiak | !tell Scp2004- about real kernel. |
| 01:42.42 | PerfDave | fas3r: However, Sarge has no security patches |
| 01:42.44 | Rawplayer | !whin |
| 01:42.44 | vladster | COGNAC! |
| 01:42.45 | directhex | fas3r, boot prompt, hit enter for 2.4 or type 'linux26' for 2.6 |
| 01:42.45 | Rawplayer | !whine |
| 01:42.46 | dpkg | from memory, whine is saying "I want you to hold my hand while I install debian because I'm too lazy to read the docs!" |
| 01:42.54 | simonrvn | resiak: seems he's blind too. i told him that 5 minutes ago |
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| 01:43.28 | stu8 | OK... as the sarge release "matures", will it later become sarge-stable ? Or will it be another name for stable from that ? |
| 01:43.40 | simonrvn | it isn't released yet |
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| 01:43.43 | caphuso | resiak: i don't want to be a penguin that falls over his own feet every 5 minutes ;) |
| 01:43.45 | directhex | stu8, sarge will become stable. |
| 01:43.46 | PerfDave | stu8: Sarge will be Sarge, whether it's stable or testing. /msg dpkg releases |
| 01:43.52 | zinx | it will become "stable" and "sarge", but not "sarge-stable" |
| 01:43.57 | fas3r | ok thank all |
| 01:44.06 | stu8 | PerfDave... makes sense... thx again |
| 01:44.14 | stu8 | zinx... hehe... right |
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| 01:45.35 | vladster | I saw one book but it is in French and I cannot find a version in english |
| 01:45.51 | vladster | It is written by one of the developers |
| 01:45.52 | resiak | I've seen books in English, so they do exist. |
| 01:46.05 | vladster | from the developer? |
| 01:46.31 | stu8 | oops... one more... Woody has Scribus... an older release... can I update that from the current Sarge archive ? |
| 01:46.42 | dvs | stu8: no |
| 01:46.47 | PerfDave | stu8: You can backport it from Sarge. |
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| 01:46.55 | peter-pan | _ |
| 01:46.59 | stu8 | oh.. backport |
| 01:47.02 | PerfDave | stu8: Read the APT HOWTO, or check out http://www.backports.org/ to see if somebody has done it for you. |
| 01:47.19 | stu8 | PerfDave... ah nice... OK |
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| 01:47.54 | vladster | would that be using source files in a backport? |
| 01:48.23 | H4ppy` | whats the command to install a file again? |
| 01:48.25 | Rawplayer | 13-7 |
| 01:48.30 | H4ppy` | damn, im allways forgetting that |
| 01:48.31 | Rawplayer | ./filename |
| 01:48.35 | PerfDave | vladster: Yes |
| 01:48.35 | dvs | Dumb Pats |
| 01:48.41 | PerfDave | !faq H4ppy` |
| 01:48.42 | dpkg | H4ppy`: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/ |
| 01:48.44 | H4ppy` | isn |
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| 01:49.44 | Thrawn | Hey... Does anyone know any documents on how to do NAT-translating (router stuff) using iproute2? |
| 01:49.54 | ardy | where does debian install apps to (such as KDE)? its not usr/local |
| 01:49.59 | vladster | if that is the case then I would think it would be better to set a source repository as the preference so the environment variables are better meshed |
| 01:50.13 | vladster | even though it takes longer |
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| 01:50.49 | resiak | ardy: dpkg -L packagename lists its files and where they are. |
| 01:50.51 | vladster | Linux is like a wine quality takes time and a good thing is never needlessly rushed |
| 01:50.59 | PerfDave | vladster: Read the APT HOWTO. |
| 01:51.02 | resiak | ardy: Alternatively, locate binary-that-you'relooking-for |
| 01:51.10 | dvs | vladster: especially samba |
| 01:51.13 | H4ppy` | well, the file name is et_install.run ? should i write sh et_install.run? |
| 01:51.13 | Erpo | Hi all. Does anyone know how to get Totem to play wmv files using the WMV9 codec? |
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| 01:51.37 | bob2 | Erpo: don't bother, use mplayer or xine |
| 01:51.55 | zinx | H4ppy`: yeah. make sure you upgrade to 2.56 too, if that's 2.55 |
| 01:51.58 | PerfDave | H4ppy`: What are you trying to do? |
| 01:52.01 | vladster | samba does take a lot of work, but it also helps to have a board that can install in a stable state |
| 01:52.13 | H4ppy` | zinx, i have the upgrade.. ;) you've done it before? |
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| 01:52.24 | [sLiM]GO-NE | when I build modules image do I do it from the /usr/src/linux folder or /usr/src/modules? |
| 01:52.26 | Erpo | bob2: I really hate mplayer and xine. Is that really the only way? I'm willing to put a lot of time into it. |
| 01:52.27 | vladster | don't try sarge on a BX board that is over ten years old |
| 01:52.31 | zinx | H4ppy`: of course |
| 01:52.41 | zinx | H4ppy`: what problems are you having? |
| 01:52.41 | bob2 | Erpo: you really like the totem interface? |
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| 01:52.44 | bob2 | wow |
| 01:53.20 | H4ppy` | could we take it in PM? |
| 01:53.20 | vladster | I though t I was screwing something up in the install only to find that a lot of the support for that board is no longer there |
| 01:53.30 | zinx | H4ppy`: i'd prefer not |
| 01:53.33 | H4ppy` | oaky |
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| 01:53.37 | Erpo | bob2: No, but I like it better than mplayer on xine. What I would really like is to use wind |
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| 01:53.45 | H4ppy` | well, first of all, have you heard about etadmin_mod? |
| 01:53.46 | PerfDave | H4ppy`: You're trying to install Enemy Territory? |
| 01:53.50 | H4ppy` | yep |
| 01:54.02 | PerfDave | H4ppy`: Try reading the docs. |
| 01:54.02 | Erpo | bob2:ows media player (but not the later ones that are all decorated). |
| 01:54.03 | zinx | H4ppy`: yeah, that's a whole nother can of worms though.. best to get ET working first |
| 01:54.35 | bob2 | Erpo: I'm sure you can find a cheap copy of windows somewhere if you actuall enjoy using it |
| 01:54.35 | H4ppy` | okay, i'll reinstall it, what's teh command for installation agian? i got it for 4 hours ago, but my mameory is something im not proud of |
| 01:54.50 | zinx | H4ppy`: it's not working? |
| 01:54.58 | megahertz | ? |
| 01:55.06 | directhex | Erpo, there are media player 6.2 skins for mplayer and xinwe |
| 01:55.08 | zinx | H4ppy`: just tell me what it's doing/doing wrong, and i can probably help fix it.. |
| 01:55.10 | H4ppy` | Erpo: Download Ace Mega Video Codecs Pack, you'll get teh old medai player with it |
| 01:55.11 | directhex | *6.4 |
| 01:55.12 | megahertz | test_1 |
| 01:55.17 | H4ppy` | zinx, it's not working |
| 01:55.25 | directhex | !not working |
| 01:55.25 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 01:55.35 | Erpo | bob2: I've got windows, but I'd rather use linux. I just don't like the mplayer or xine interfaces and gxine crashes on me all the time. |
| 01:55.44 | zinx | H4ppy`: you're going to have to be more specific than that :) |
| 01:55.45 | H4ppy` | it wont show up, noone can join.. the server is down, it worked fine on windows... |
| 01:55.53 | megahertz | ... |
| 01:55.54 | bob2 | Erpo: gmplayer? |
| 01:55.58 | Erpo | H4ppy`, Is this Ace Mega Video Codecs Pact thing for linux or for windows. |
| 01:56.06 | bob2 | Erpo: have you installed totem-xine? |
| 01:56.11 | Erpo | bob2: Never heard of it, but I'll check it out. |
| 01:56.16 | vladster | What would be the most stable for a server , Sarge or Woody? |
| 01:56.16 | H4ppy` | think they made one for linux to, but mostly for windows i think |
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| 01:56.18 | zinx | H4ppy`: when you are running the server, is it listed in 'netstat -plun'? |
| 01:56.22 | bob2 | vladster: either |
| 01:56.24 | directhex | gmplayer with a reasonable skin is definitely the best option |
| 01:56.25 | Erpo | bob2: No, I've never heard of totem-xine. I'll check that out too. |
| 01:56.30 | bob2 | vladster: sarge doesn't have official security updates, tho |
| 01:56.34 | PerfDave | H4ppy`: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/ has documentation for installing ET in Linux. |
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| 01:56.53 | vladster | It is one a home network |
| 01:57.03 | zinx | H4ppy`: note that the master server typically drops half the servers when sending a reply to the request |
| 01:57.05 | Erpo | Wait. I thought mplayer didn't have a gui. I mean, other than a window to show video. |
| 01:57.07 | H4ppy` | zinx, i have opened 20 ports from 27950 to 27970 in case... |
| 01:57.13 | resiak | Erpo: That's the point of gmplayer |
| 01:57.17 | zinx | H4ppy`: because it uses non-reliable UDP to send the current servers |
| 01:57.41 | H4ppy` | okay... |
| 01:57.43 | zinx | H4ppy`: also note that unless your server has really low ping or customs, people probably won't join it |
| 01:57.46 | Zero_Dogg | Are there any debian tools to find unused libs? |
| 01:57.56 | vladster | Sarge is easier to understand as an install but it has not been a consistent install for me |
| 01:57.59 | H4ppy` | the windows version var low-ping |
| 01:58.06 | H4ppy` | 40 in ping |
| 01:58.07 | Erpo | resiak: Someone mentioned a media player 6.2 skin for mplayer. Did they mean gmplayer? |
| 01:58.08 | zinx | H4ppy`: it also helps to run a mod like <plug>ET Pro</plug> rather than etmain |
| 01:58.11 | H4ppy` | *was |
| 01:58.36 | H4ppy` | i'll run ETPro... |
| 01:58.56 | H4ppy` | hang on, let me try once more |
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| 01:59.23 | Erpo | Zero_Dogg: I've had people recommend a program called deborphan and debfoster. You might want to check those out. Also, aptitude has a facility to keep track of packages that were only installed as dependencies to other packages, but it tries to break my system when I try to use it. |
| 01:59.29 | vladster | Woody has been rock solid but there are settings in the install I have no clue as to what they are refering to but somehow affect the general health of the system installed |
| 01:59.47 | zinx | H4ppy`: ET players tend to visit favorite servers a lot too, rather than skip around |
| 01:59.51 | Scp2004- | [resiak] do i have all i need to install real kernel? i don't have netacess in debian, what should i try? |
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| 02:00.05 | Zero_Dogg | Erpo: lol - I'll look at the deb* ones. Thanks |
| 02:00.22 | Erpo | Zero_Dogg, np. Good luck. |
| 02:00.27 | zinx | H4ppy`: so you may only ever get the lone straggler who's trying to figure out the game :/ |
| 02:00.29 | resiak | Erpo: Yes. |
| 02:00.44 | Erpo | resiak: Ah. thanks. |
| 02:00.47 | resiak | Scp2004-: I've never even tried to use Debian without a net connection. Can you not get one? |
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| 02:02.04 | Thrawn | anyone have any documentation on how to do ipmasq'ing with iproute2? |
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| 02:03.10 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: lart iproute2 |
| 02:03.42 | Erpo | Ok. It turns out I had totem-xine installed the whole time. :P |
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| 02:04.16 | netsurfer | so, if I make-kpkg with a generic type kernel, I can use the .deb in most machines of that architecture ? |
| 02:04.16 | Scp2004- | [resiak] so i need net connection :( i have just net_installcd packages, so i can get trouble in making it function |
| 02:04.31 | dvs | netsurfer: yeah |
| 02:04.41 | netsurfer | cool, I like it |
| 02:04.49 | dvs | netsurfer: If you want to do that, it would be worth looking into initrd |
| 02:05.31 | alejandro_1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.38 | netsurfer | huh? |
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| 02:06.07 | netsurfer | dvs - in what way "looking into" initrd? |
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| 02:07.03 | dvs | netsurfer: You can create an initrd file which can store possible device drivers you might need. |
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| 02:10.27 | vladster | You need a how to just to install the apt-howto's |
| 02:10.29 | netsurfer | dvs - is that not done with make-kpkg buildpackage ? |
| 02:10.31 | vladster | ;) |
| 02:10.50 | stu8 | hrm... so, with debs, you cant do an rpm type upgrade if you have a newer version of package ? |
| 02:10.53 | dvs | netsurfer: Yes, with the --initrd option |
| 02:11.00 | dvs | YEAH! |
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| 02:11.44 | dvs | Yeah! All tied up now! |
| 02:11.59 | netsurfer | dvs - if iv already done make-kpkg buildpackage can I add initrd later ? |
| 02:12.03 | vladster | at least it is a pretty recent howto |
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| 02:12.18 | netsurfer | the man for it makes no sense to me |
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| 02:12.56 | dvs | netsurfer: No, you would have to compile it over again. |
| 02:13.13 | netsurfer | baah |
| 02:13.17 | netsurfer | k :( thx |
| 02:13.23 | dvs | netsurfer: np |
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| 02:13.59 | stu8 | whos winning... Superman or Batman ?? :) |
| 02:14.10 | dvs | stu8: The Joker ;-) |
| 02:14.23 | stu8 | boooo :) |
| 02:14.35 | psywar | mirrors.kernel.org seems to have removed its debian apt archive stuff, is this correct? |
| 02:14.56 | bob2 | psywar: you'd have to ask them |
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| 02:15.07 | psywar | can anyone tell me what else to put in my sources.list? |
| 02:15.23 | psywar | hmm, maybe I'll go read the apt howto instead |
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| 02:15.41 | bob2 | or go to www.debian.org/mirros.html |
| 02:15.45 | bob2 | er, spelt correctly |
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| 02:17.04 | ncsu | is there a gui for disk partitoning? |
| 02:17.35 | zamolxes | ncsu, qt-parted but i don't think much of it. |
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| 02:17.49 | ncsu | well, i dont really need a gui, how would i just partition my harddrive |
| 02:17.59 | directhex | fdisk |
| 02:18.02 | dvs | ncsu: cfdisk |
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| 02:18.16 | ncsu | thanks |
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| 02:18.37 | zamolxes | ncsu, if you're not satisfied with fdisk, you can try parted (well, it knows resize) |
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| 02:19.03 | ncsu | cfdisk is great |
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| 02:19.07 | ncsu | just what i was looking for |
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| 02:19.23 | zach | Any Girls out their press 334 |
| 02:19.42 | simonrvn | zach: bugger off |
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| 02:20.00 | gravity | Ugh |
| 02:20.19 | ncsu | if i was just trying to make a /server partition would that be the label? |
| 02:20.35 | dvs | ncsu: No, you can label it anything you want |
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| 02:21.10 | ncsu | where will it put it though |
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| 02:21.26 | dvs | ncsu: The device name is more important than the label |
| 02:21.44 | [sLiM] | anyone know where i can get the nvidia 6111 package..from a repo |
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| 02:22.14 | arnon | how do I remove mysql from startup process..? |
| 02:22.31 | cafuego | [sLiM]: Why would you use that old one? |
| 02:22.40 | cafuego | arnon: rcconf |
| 02:22.44 | arnon | mysql is automatically launched when I boot |
| 02:22.48 | [sLiM] | new one is compatible with my card |
| 02:22.59 | [sLiM] | **isnt |
| 02:23.09 | cafuego | [sLiM]: Email nvidia and tell them to fix the driver. |
| 02:23.21 | ncsu | Wrote partition table, but re-read table failed. Reboot to update table. I hope this is ok |
| 02:23.25 | cafuego | [sLiM]: Also see snapshot.debian.net |
| 02:23.26 | [sLiM] | lol theres so many posts on thier board about it |
| 02:23.29 | [sLiM] | no fixes though |
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| 02:23.43 | sanxiyn | Poor nVidia. |
| 02:23.49 | dvs | ncsu: I hope you didn't repartition the table that you're running linux on. |
| 02:24.12 | cafuego | Pffft. |
| 02:24.15 | cafuego | poor nvidia my ass |
| 02:24.25 | cafuego | maybe they're trying to force users to upgrade |
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| 02:24.55 | sanxiyn | cafuego: That sounds stretching a bit too much... |
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| 02:25.14 | blackman | I HAVE PICS OF ROBERT LEVIN INTRODUCING HIS PIPI IN HIS DAUGHTER'S MOUTH |
| 02:25.14 | dvs | see ya |
| 02:25.15 | sanxiyn | blacke: Thank you. |
| 02:25.20 | sanxiyn | oops |
| 02:25.20 | cafuego | sanxiyn: it's not as if US companies don't have a repuation for making users upgrade by stopping support on older products |
| 02:25.40 | cafuego | !ops blackman troll |
| 02:25.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: blackman troll |
| 02:25.41 | *** mode/#debian [+o bob2] by ChanServ |
| 02:25.42 | *** part/#debian blackman (blackman@164.77.246.195) |
| 02:25.42 | *** mode/#debian [-o bob2] by bob2 |
| 02:25.47 | cafuego | bob2: chrz |
| 02:25.53 | hi | During install i saw i have list of 137 available packages to install. where can i see that list? |
| 02:25.54 | bob2 | cafuego: itym "idiot" |
| 02:26.02 | bob2 | cafuego: also, lca tickets are selling fast! |
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| 02:26.07 | blackman | STOP ABUSE |
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| 02:26.09 | vladster | incest is best, the game the whole familiy can play |
| 02:26.17 | cafuego | blackman: Please go away. |
| 02:26.17 | dvs | see ya again |
| 02:26.20 | blackman | OK |
| 02:26.21 | blackman | bye |
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| 02:26.33 | cafuego | Well, at least he's courteous. |
| 02:26.36 | [sLiM] | cafuego, yea it does suck..wish they would have made a patch for it by now |
| 02:26.38 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@164.77.246.195] by caphuso |
| 02:26.42 | *** mode/#debian [-o caphuso] by caphuso |
| 02:26.43 | bob2 | bah |
| 02:26.45 | *** mode/#debian [-o bob2] by bob2 |
| 02:26.50 | cafuego | bob2: Yeah, well... $3400 of whitegoods later... |
| 02:26.55 | gravity | It's like coitus interruptus |
| 02:27.07 | cafuego | [sLiM]: Anything on #nvidia ? |
| 02:27.15 | bob2 | cafuego: that's a mighty expensive replacement |
| 02:27.24 | cafuego | bob2: Also upgraded the fridge. |
| 02:27.38 | [sLiM] | cafuego, no |
| 02:27.43 | bob2 | cafuego: hah |
| 02:27.43 | cafuego | bob2: And yeah, washing machine xpensive, BUT it's a good one (factory 2nd miele) |
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| 02:28.06 | vladster | as long as it saves water |
| 02:28.27 | cafuego | It's the top rated one on the choice.com.au site :-) |
| 02:28.34 | cafuego | And a 4 star fridge. |
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| 02:28.46 | bob2 | hah |
| 02:28.52 | bob2 | guess you need that sort of thing by the YARRA |
| 02:29.12 | cafuego | bob2: yes, there's no way you could wash anything in that whitemud river. |
| 02:29.24 | cafuego | bob2: it was pretty impressive the day after the rain. |
| 02:30.11 | newbie21 | hi can someone help me - i was trying to reinstall win98 on a seperate HD on my debian system. But since then ths MS install must have somehow fucked up my MBR or something. Now I cant boot either with GRUB or Lilo. My kernel images are on /hda1 and my root is on /hda3. I am no problem booting my root partition from the woody install CD (rescbf24) but when I try to copy the kernel images from hda1 to hda3 i get a lot of strange error like "attempt t |
| 02:30.18 | ncsu | how do i get to this new partition? |
| 02:30.46 | bob2 | newbie21: just boot into your system and rerun lilo or grub-install |
| 02:31.03 | newbie21 | bob2: tried that |
| 02:31.05 | vladster | that is a sticky issue, windows is always installed first |
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| 02:31.26 | vladster | preferably on it's own hard drive |
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| 02:31.50 | psywar | MS install overwrites MBR, ye. |
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| 02:32.07 | vladster | then debian is installed, preferably with grub |
| 02:32.14 | newbie21 | vladster: yes but the damage has happend - forgot to disconnect med linux HD before messing around with MS :-( |
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| 02:32.32 | boris`` | what damage? |
| 02:32.36 | psywar | newbie21: your message got cut off, what does it say about hda3 |
| 02:32.41 | psywar | attempt to ...? |
| 02:32.45 | hi | During install i saw i have list of 137 available packages to install. where can i see that list? |
| 02:32.46 | vladster | it is best to make a boot floppy for such a thing |
| 02:32.49 | hi | sarge |
| 02:32.56 | dvs | ncsu: man mount |
| 02:33.16 | newbie21 | psywar: access beyond end of device |
| 02:33.16 | vladster | what is the fstab look like for your woody boot |
| 02:33.27 | vladster | does* |
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| 02:34.27 | newbie21 | vladster: quite normal - woody default |
| 02:34.28 | dcom | wat is debian |
| 02:34.33 | quafee | JEWS DID WTC & HI ROBERT LEVIN (LILO , FOUNDER OF FREENODE , WHOIS FREENODE.NET) ABUSES HIS CHILDREN |
| 02:34.35 | quafee | JEWS DID WTC & HI ROBERT LEVIN (LILO , FOUNDER OF FREENODE , WHOIS FREENODE.NET) ABUSES HIS CHILDREN |
| 02:34.36 | *** kick/#debian [quafee!~debhelper@debhelper.user] by debhelper (flood: Consider using #flood) |
| 02:34.37 | vladster | I just wish ther was a way to have a boot manager resident in the bios |
| 02:34.42 | gravity | Geez |
| 02:34.52 | gravity | Doesn't he have anything else to do with himself? |
| 02:34.57 | dvs | That guy needs to be banned permanently |
| 02:35.07 | bob2 | god |
| 02:35.15 | bob2 | vladster: linuxbios. |
| 02:35.24 | dcom | wat is debian |
| 02:35.28 | dcom | how 2 use |
| 02:35.32 | vladster | really |
| 02:35.35 | boris`` | vladster, IIRC, if there is no MBR bootloader present, most BIOSes will attempt to execute chain loaders located at partitions marked with a bootable flag |
| 02:35.36 | gravity | dcom: http://www.debian.org |
| 02:35.37 | bob2 | dcom: www.debian.org |
| 02:35.38 | drp | !debian |
| 02:35.38 | dpkg | i heard debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
| 02:35.40 | debian | how could he flood so many times? |
| 02:35.49 | newbie21 | one thing i have not tried yet is to change the boot from hda1 to a somewhere on hda3 - that should not be a problem? |
| 02:35.49 | bob2 | debian: spacing |
| 02:35.54 | dvs | debian: He paused slightly |
| 02:35.58 | boris`` | you might want to ban dcom, he's a troll... associated i imagine with the guy who just flooded |
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| 02:36.12 | dcom | LOL |
| 02:36.15 | dcom | WAT IS operating system |
| 02:36.16 | debian | bob2, dvs: it showed that we aren't talking enough. :) |
| 02:36.16 | dcom | LOL |
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| 02:36.33 | debian | What's wrong today?! |
| 02:36.43 | bob2 | people are stupid |
| 02:36.44 | debian | Idiots' day? |
| 02:36.44 | gravity | !sunday |
| 02:36.44 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 02:36.47 | bob2 | the same thing that's wrong with everyday |
| 02:36.51 | drp | I saw one the other day where this guy asked if debian would run on a computer system |
| 02:36.57 | debian | gravity: this is monday here, you insensitive clod. |
| 02:37.00 | vladster | will linux work with that chi=ainloader or does it have to be shown where the boot files are at the command line |
| 02:37.36 | FieldySnuts | drp: the sad thing: he was serious |
| 02:37.43 | drp | yeah I know |
| 02:37.46 | drp | that's why I had to laugh |
| 02:37.55 | RedPenguin | Anyone know what this would mean? |
| 02:37.55 | RedPenguin | dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH. |
| 02:37.55 | dpkg | RedPenguin: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 02:37.59 | H4ppy` | Any Enemey Territory guys here that can help me, there was 2 here before... need help now.. |
| 02:38.02 | RedPenguin | lol |
| 02:38.09 | debian | drp: I think he meant: if it could run on Windows |
| 02:38.17 | dvs | RedPenguin: It's pretty clear to me |
| 02:38.21 | drp | debian, ic |
| 02:38.25 | newbie21 | H4ppy`: whats is your your problem? |
| 02:38.32 | RedPenguin | I know that, but it just happened |
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| 02:38.36 | RedPenguin | I am not sure what to change to fix it |
| 02:38.40 | H4ppy` | the program have started |
| 02:38.52 | H4ppy` | but how can i do other things while the program is running? |
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| 02:39.05 | debian | drp: to so many people: operating system=windows, linux=red hat. The scary part is: they're third year CS students. |
| 02:39.19 | newbie21 | H4ppy`: press ctrl + alt + f1! |
| 02:39.22 | drp | egads |
| 02:39.34 | H4ppy` | and i wont loose the program, how can i go back to it? |
| 02:39.34 | drp | I'm a 4th year |
| 02:39.37 | drp | i must be ahed of the game |
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| 02:39.47 | debian | drp: :D |
| 02:39.49 | newbie21 | H4ppy`: press ctrl + alt + f8 |
| 02:40.05 | H4ppy` | thx |
| 02:40.07 | newbie21 | or wherever your X-screen is located |
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| 02:40.19 | sanxiyn | debian: Yes, I see lots of reference to "Linux version 7" and "Linux version 8" in binaries near here. |
| 02:41.11 | debian | sanxiyn: I was once asked by a boss the lastest version of linux. I answered '2.4.x', which was immediately challenged by an MCSE beside "Blah! the lastest is 7.1!" |
| 02:41.19 | newbie21 | how do i get my system not to get the kernel images files from hda1 but from somewhere on hda3? |
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| 02:42.06 | debian | sanxiyn: I fell silent and sink back to my own parallel universe where linux hasn't been evolved into version 7.1. |
| 02:42.28 | toresbe | debian: Wonder what linux 4 will look like... |
| 02:42.49 | RedPenguin | I fixed it |
| 02:43.02 | sanxiyn | GCC 4 is near. KDE 4 is also near. |
| 02:43.08 | toresbe | H4ppy`: make that ctrl-alt-f6 or f7 |
| 02:43.09 | sanxiyn | (GNOME 3, anyone?) |
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| 02:43.18 | dvs | sanxiyn: No, 2.10 |
| 02:43.22 | sofaSpud | check it out: http://www.novell.com/linux/windowstolinux/publicservice/ |
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| 02:44.27 | sanxiyn | Mythical future software includes terrific Perl 6. |
| 02:44.32 | toresbe | sanxiyn: KDE 4, or the "Featuritis" release |
| 02:44.36 | byter | i have a problem with my video card (is a older model S3) |
| 02:44.46 | sanxiyn | (Ah, PHP 5 is already here...) |
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| 02:46.12 | grendal_prime | hey...anyone able to use turbotax with firefox? |
| 02:46.17 | byter | and the support isn't in the version 4.2 how i say to apt-get that i need the version 3.3 and not the version 4.2 |
| 02:46.18 | guestish | weblar: hiya root |
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| 02:46.31 | byter | somebody can help me please |
| 02:46.44 | sanxiyn | byter: Ah, you need XFree86 3.2? |
| 02:46.46 | j4cbo | i'm trying to get CUPS working with my nec superscript 870 |
| 02:46.48 | byter | yes |
| 02:46.49 | sanxiyn | (eh, 3.3) |
| 02:47.01 | j4cbo | it prints, but the alignment is wrong |
| 02:47.07 | byter | i need that version |
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| 02:47.10 | grendal_prime | i keep reading accounts of people using turbotax for the web with firefox..but when i hit the website i get... |
| 02:47.12 | newbie21 | how do i get my system not to get the kernel images files from /boot but from /boot2? |
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| 02:47.19 | newbie21 | (lilo) |
| 02:47.24 | byter | but how i say to the apt-get what i want that |
| 02:47.34 | j4cbo | i know what "page size", "lower-left", and "upper-right" settings i need, but how do i put those in the .ppd file? |
| 02:47.34 | byter | excuse me english is very poor |
| 02:47.46 | sanxiyn | byter: Agreed. English is poor. |
| 02:47.49 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.05 | dvs | IE and IE? |
| 02:48.08 | grendal_prime | and guess what...firefox is not on that list |
| 02:48.11 | grendal_prime | yep |
| 02:48.15 | grendal_prime | basically |
| 02:48.20 | byter | jajaja |
| 02:48.23 | guestish | you probably need activex |
| 02:48.34 | guestish | there is a firefox activex plugin, but it comes with all the baggage |
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| 02:48.45 | sanxiyn | Mozilla (and derivatives) can host ActiveX, but not on non-Windows platforms. |
| 02:48.45 | grendal_prime | well it does list the Mac OS |
| 02:48.45 | grendal_prime | Mac OS 9.0 or higher Safari 1.x, AOL for Mac OS X |
| 02:48.56 | guestish | and of course its permenantly experimental :) |
| 02:48.58 | cafuego | AOL for MacOS X? HAHAHA! |
| 02:49.01 | j4cbo | any idea how to get it aligned right? |
| 02:49.06 | FieldySnuts | cafuego: um? |
| 02:49.12 | j4cbo | i've printed probably 30 test pages with no luck |
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| 02:49.14 | Luisa | t |
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| 02:49.25 | FieldySnuts | t. that was neat. |
| 02:49.28 | grendal_prime | now kde does actually load up the pages..but it seems to falfunction or something |
| 02:49.31 | j4cbo | and the alignmargins script just makes it work |
| 02:49.34 | j4cbo | worse* |
| 02:49.36 | RedPenguin | Anyone here use www.apt-get.org? |
| 02:49.40 | sanxiyn | RedPenguin: me. |
| 02:49.40 | dvs | FieldySnuts: Maybe Luisa what thirsty |
| 02:49.42 | uGexe | anyone know why locate isn't working on my fresh sarge install? |
| 02:49.45 | grendal_prime | is there a way to change the way firefox presents itself? |
| 02:49.51 | sanxiyn | uGexe: updatedb? |
| 02:49.53 | guestish | grendal_prime: try the activex plugin for firefox |
| 02:49.53 | FieldySnuts | define "present" |
| 02:49.55 | dvs | s/what/was/ |
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| 02:49.58 | sussudio | [03:49:50] * kawfee is on IRC |
| 02:50.06 | sussudio | gee. coincidence? |
| 02:50.07 | FieldySnuts | why on EARTH are we talking about using activex here? |
| 02:50.09 | grendal_prime | ok guestish where to get? |
| 02:50.10 | RedPenguin | sanxiyn, ;), just curious because it seems like a really nice site |
| 02:50.16 | guestish | grendal_prime: google for it |
| 02:50.20 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: in regards to what |
| 02:50.28 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: botfloods |
| 02:50.31 | sanxiyn | grendal_prime: Ah, you can change Firefox's User-Agent string. |
| 02:50.33 | guestish | root_: ... |
| 02:50.35 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: when |
| 02:50.37 | sanxiyn | grendal_prime: That is, faking. |
| 02:50.37 | j4cbo | any idea how to get the printer working? |
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| 02:50.54 | grendal_prime | well if it works sanxiyn it works right? |
| 02:50.56 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: 16 mins ago, for example |
| 02:50.59 | samlander | that was *stupid* |
| 02:51.02 | samlander | doh |
| 02:51.03 | grendal_prime | where would i go about doing that? |
| 02:51.14 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: /lastlog quafee |
| 02:51.16 | FieldySnuts | oh, the jews did wtc crapola... old |
| 02:51.21 | sussudio | yeah |
| 02:51.28 | samlander | frag, i shouldna come in here as root |
| 02:51.33 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: that and the joinflood earlier |
| 02:51.33 | FieldySnuts | wow, the other stuff is just plain in poor taste, that's evil |
| 02:51.36 | usr010 | how do i get fat32 support |
| 02:51.37 | sanxiyn | grendal_prime: Install "User Agent Switcher" extension. |
| 02:51.44 | guestish | !vfat |
| 02:51.44 | dpkg | vfat is probably a very fat 32 bit version of a pathetic filesystem, or apt-get install dosfstools, then man mkfs.vfat, or for info on getting write access for regular users, "/msg apt vfatrw" |
| 02:52.08 | sanxiyn | grendal_prime: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/useragentswitcher |
| 02:52.15 | samlander | how do i check how much space i have on a mount point? |
| 02:52.15 | FieldySnuts | "quafee" ... i just got that. |
| 02:52.19 | FieldySnuts | what a dilhole |
| 02:52.29 | samlander | ie.. how much space left in /dev/md0 currently mounted on /raid ? |
| 02:52.29 | H4ppy` | newbie21; the CTRL + ALT + F1 didn't work.... so, i ask again, how do i close some program running without shuting it down? |
| 02:52.37 | grendal_prime | i tried that sanxiyn it still says its not supported |
| 02:52.39 | sanxiyn | grendal_prime: Not sure it will work though. |
| 02:53.03 | sanxiyn | grendal_prime: Then perhaps it uses something other than User-Agent snipping to detect browsers, which is good. |
| 02:53.05 | drp | H4ppy`, kill the process |
| 02:53.16 | sussudio | !dict bunghole |
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| 02:53.18 | dpkg | Dictionary 'bunghole' a hole in a barrel or cask; used to fill or empty it |
| 02:53.18 | H4ppy` | what do you mead? |
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| 02:53.24 | sanxiyn | (Perhaps, Javascript feature based detection) |
| 02:53.40 | drp | kill <pid> |
| 02:53.54 | drp | man kill |
| 02:53.59 | H4ppy` | i cant write while the program is running... |
| 02:54.05 | megahertz | test |
| 02:54.06 | samlander | ?? what command to check freespace? |
| 02:54.17 | FieldySnuts | df , df -h is more useful |
| 02:54.21 | samlander | ty |
| 02:54.48 | drp | H4ppy`, not sure what you are asking |
| 02:54.51 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: i've also noticed he's been in here with another nick, since his nick is banned, not his mask |
| 02:55.01 | samlander | exellent.. i've succesfully mounted my raid0 ;) |
| 02:55.13 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: shrug, I don't pay that much attention to the twerp |
| 02:55.25 | samlander | just need to remember how to set permissions to allow my normal account to use it now ;) |
| 02:55.27 | FieldySnuts | if he could do actual, damaging annoying floods maybe.. but they last 5 seconds |
| 02:55.51 | H4ppy` | okay, i've started a file/program it's running now, but i need to start another program too, is thier a way for me to push some button or something so the program still would work in the background and i can open a new one? |
| 02:55.54 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: kill kawfee |
| 02:55.55 | samlander | ciao all |
| 02:55.56 | megahertz | @ |
| 02:56.06 | drp | & |
| 02:56.28 | stu8 | you got AOL FREE ?!?! :) |
| 02:56.30 | drp | H4ppy`, I'm assuming you are starting your apps from the terminal |
| 02:56.37 | H4ppy` | yep |
| 02:56.45 | drp | H4ppy`, ex. firefox& |
| 02:56.53 | grendal_prime | well this pretty well sucks ass |
| 02:56.59 | sussudio | !seen unka |
| 02:57.00 | drp | the ampersand runs the app in the background instead of eating your terminal |
| 02:57.00 | grendal_prime | hey is there a firefox...channell? |
| 02:57.00 | dpkg | unka <unknown@CPE-24-166-190-59.kc.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 7d 6h 34m 6s ago, saying: 'jetscreamer: the man pages stopped working as well, go figure'. |
| 02:57.06 | sussudio | !seen unknown_ |
| 02:57.06 | dpkg | sussudio: i haven't seen 'unknown_' |
| 02:57.18 | sussudio | ~seen unknown_ |
| 02:57.20 | apt | unknown_ <~unknown@212.118.85.130> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 331d 9h 6m 29s ago, saying: 'thx'. |
| 02:57.21 | sanxiyn | grendal_prime: Of course there is. |
| 02:57.23 | sussudio | hm |
| 02:57.28 | drp | H4ppy`, or you can just open a new terminal |
| 02:57.33 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: unka was the last one he used |
| 02:57.46 | sanxiyn | grendal_prime: Connect to irc.mozilla.org server. |
| 02:57.49 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: heh what are you doing, keeping a logbook? |
| 02:57.52 | sanxiyn | (They have their own IRC server) |
| 02:57.54 | grendal_prime | ya but nobody is talking on it |
| 02:57.56 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: oh yes. |
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| 02:57.57 | grendal_prime | ooo.. |
| 02:58.00 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: he probably comes in just to piss you off. |
| 02:58.03 | grendal_prime | ill try that one thanks |
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| 02:58.21 | H4ppy` | okay hang one, i'll explain what i did, there's this program called Enemy Territory... Im about to start running a server... i started the program by writing ./etded +set (some text) it's finally running, but the biggest problem now is to start a program called etadmin_mod without closeing the one i have now... |
| 02:58.24 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: no, because he's a tard |
| 02:58.27 | FieldySnuts | is he the same one who yells your nick mine phated and a few others (misspeled mine) |
| 02:58.27 | jordo23 | anyone know the default dir for kde wallpapers in debian? |
| 02:58.28 | sanxiyn | grendal_prime: Channel name is #firefox. |
| 02:58.35 | sanxiyn | grendal_prime: Or read this: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/ |
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| 02:58.42 | FieldySnuts | i guess so, same jews did wtc shit |
| 02:58.46 | FieldySnuts | what a jerk |
| 02:58.49 | sussudio | debian.log.20050130:[20:46] <unka> I'm using XDM and all of a sudden I am only able to log into X with root and no other user. Anyone know what would cause this? |
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| 02:59.00 | python_ | hi |
| 02:59.08 | sanxiyn | python_: Hello, Python! |
| 02:59.34 | python_ | dous anyone know of any other file server proticals other then ftp |
| 02:59.45 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: say !irritate python_ |
| 02:59.47 | ravenbird | !irritate python_ |
| 02:59.47 | dpkg | python_: Y iz debain so old? who uses gnome kk |
| 02:59.56 | sussudio | python_: badger. |
| 03:00.10 | sanxiyn | python_: Apache. |
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| 03:00.25 | Xemacs_ | python_, gopher |
| 03:00.27 | FieldySnuts | heh you say badger, ferret leaves and comes back |
| 03:00.40 | H4ppy` | anyone? |
| 03:00.45 | megahertz | . |
| 03:00.50 | FieldySnuts | ne1? |
| 03:00.50 | sussudio | there's actually creatures called ferretbadgers. |
| 03:00.50 | Ferret | Unrelated incident, I swear. :) |
| 03:00.59 | Ferret | Yes there are, in the Orient. |
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| 03:01.05 | Ferret | And South-East Asia iirc. |
| 03:01.16 | sussudio | http://www.afcd.gov.hk/conservation/Images_Fauna/ferretbadger.jpg |
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| 03:02.07 | drp | H4ppy`, the answer I gave you isn't what you wanted? |
| 03:02.11 | Ferret | The only ways possible to do that seems to be either leaving the channel or alter the irssi config then doing /upgrade. :/ |
| 03:02.26 | H4ppy` | no, it wont help me... wont it shut down the program? |
| 03:02.34 | python_ | can you use apchy as a file server |
| 03:02.54 | H4ppy` | drp: but i can allways try, how do i open another terminal? |
| 03:02.56 | stew | !wayttd python_ |
| 03:02.57 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, python_? |
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| 03:03.13 | sanxiyn | python_: What is apchy |
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| 03:03.30 | python_ | i am a bad speller |
| 03:03.32 | python_ | sorry |
| 03:03.41 | python_ | apache |
| 03:03.50 | sanxiyn | http://publicfile.org/ |
| 03:03.54 | drp | H4ppy`, what wm/de are you running |
| 03:04.26 | FieldySnuts | djb definately bites the big one. |
| 03:04.31 | FieldySnuts | or maybe even two of th3m |
| 03:04.32 | sanxiyn | python_: Don't you download files over HTTP? Of course HTTP server can be a file server. |
| 03:04.34 | FieldySnuts | them |
| 03:04.36 | H4ppy` | i got this server from a company here where i live, they installed some prog i just write mc and i can see all the files and do stuff to them... |
| 03:04.55 | H4ppy` | som im not sure what a vm/de is... |
| 03:04.55 | stu8 | H4ppy:) |
| 03:06.00 | python_ | with out having to build a web page |
| 03:06.00 | sanxiyn | python_: ... |
| 03:06.00 | H4ppy` | oh... :D |
| 03:06.00 | drp | window manager / desktop environment |
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| 03:06.01 | sanxiyn | python_: What do you want to do |
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| 03:06.01 | drp | or are you sshing into the server or what |
| 03:06.01 | H4ppy` | okay, dont know it's name, but i do know i have to write mc to get into it.. |
| 03:06.01 | python_ | i want to set up a server so i can throw all my files on it |
| 03:06.01 | stu8 | mc is an editor |
| 03:06.01 | sanxiyn | python_: And what's the problem with FTP, then? |
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| 03:06.08 | python_ | i cant use ftp becoulse i need to be able to port forward |
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| 03:06.08 | stew | stu8: no its not |
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| 03:06.08 | H4ppy` | okay, then i dont have an wm or de |
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| 03:06.13 | python_ | you cant port foward ftp |
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| 03:06.33 | python_ | i have tryed |
| 03:06.42 | sanxiyn | python_: Actually you can, but I admit it may be messy. |
| 03:06.52 | sanxiyn | python_: HTTP works well. |
| 03:06.52 | python_ | my isp blocks all ports 1-1000 |
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| 03:07.07 | sanxiyn | python_: Install apache and throw any files to /var/www. That's it. |
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| 03:07.18 | megahertz | k |
| 03:07.23 | python_ | will i be able to brows them |
| 03:07.27 | sanxiyn | (If you don't feel like installing the monster, you may choose any other web server) |
| 03:07.27 | stew | stu8: don't msg me |
| 03:07.29 | sanxiyn | python_: Yes. |
| 03:07.34 | stew | stu8: and no, midnight commander is not an editor |
| 03:07.36 | python_ | sweet thanks |
| 03:07.43 | python_ | ill give that a try |
| 03:07.58 | stu8 | stew hey, you read my message... no fair :) |
| 03:08.15 | stu8 | stew just wondering... I always use it for one :) |
| 03:08.18 | drp | h4ppy |
| 03:08.27 | H4ppy` | drp: yep!? |
| 03:08.34 | drp | H4ppy`, close the app out nad restart it with the & at the end |
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| 03:09.19 | H4ppy` | okay, something like this ./etded +set net_port 27960& ? |
| 03:09.25 | drp | yeah |
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| 03:09.44 | H4ppy` | what happens then? |
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| 03:09.53 | H4ppy` | what do i push to open another? |
| 03:09.54 | drp | you'll see |
| 03:09.58 | H4ppy` | okay, thx |
| 03:10.00 | H4ppy` | i'll try |
| 03:10.04 | drp | k |
| 03:10.10 | vortek | Does any one have and guides for Setting up wireless in debian... I have to use wireless-tools package.. Because I have a crapy trendnet tew-229 wich uses the atmel firmware... Now The device is rocongized when I plug it in and the firmware seemed to install ok. |
| 03:10.26 | vortek | I'm just lost on what to do next.. I've read the guide but they don't help much. |
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| 03:10.48 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: any ideas? |
| 03:10.49 | ravenbird | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag of condoms, a little sauerkraut, and 42 three-legged goats. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 03:11.08 | FieldySnuts | heh kudos to whoever put Cabal in there |
| 03:11.12 | stu8 | ravenbird LOL |
| 03:11.12 | ravenbird | lol in no way resembles the sound that is produced while "Laughing Out Loud", so it looks very lame when you say it; use "heh" or "haha" instead or use an action ("/me laughs") 'lol' is also not punctuation. See also: loll, or peterS does interesting things if you do this and he's in the mood ;P |
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| 03:11.50 | zakame | hello |
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| 03:12.07 | H4ppy` | drp: it just said "press any key" |
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| 03:13.39 | stu8 | are we seeing splits there, or have my channel antics driven everyone away ? :) |
| 03:13.39 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: fee faa foe fum. |
| 03:13.39 | beth | which key is the any key?! |
| 03:13.57 | stu8 | "any" key ? |
| 03:13.58 | Zero_Dogg | I seem to remember that there's some tool to create debs out of a source archive (ie, instead of make install or thereabout). Is my memory completely wrong or can anyone tell me the name of a package containing it? |
| 03:14.15 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: kawfee has a grudge against Phated too... |
| 03:14.22 | FieldySnuts | why? what did she do? |
| 03:14.49 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: dunno. did you see her go Connection reset by peer just now? About the same time kawfee went off my notify |
| 03:14.54 | stu8 | zDogg...obviously SOME-body is making debs... but I dont know if just ANYone can :) |
| 03:15.01 | FieldySnuts | hope that's not related |
| 03:15.03 | nevyn | Zero_Dogg: check-install |
| 03:15.11 | H4ppy` | drp: are you here? |
| 03:15.14 | beth | ow, my buttons! |
| 03:15.15 | drp | yeah |
| 03:15.19 | FieldySnuts | hehe beth |
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| 03:15.32 | Zero_Dogg | nevyn: doesn't seem to be a deb of that. |
| 03:15.52 | H4ppy` | well,i did as you said, it did come up some text, then i got the message "press any key" so the program just stopped again |
| 03:16.13 | stu8 | oh... that any key :) |
| 03:16.18 | nevyn | Zero_Dogg: checkinstall one word |
| 03:16.21 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: he DDoSed bob2 a while ago too |
| 03:16.48 | Zero_Dogg | nevyn: thanks |
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| 03:16.54 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: geez. |
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| 03:17.09 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: and me several times |
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| 03:17.23 | drp | what did it do when you pressed the any key H4ppy` |
| 03:17.29 | H4ppy` | haha |
| 03:17.31 | stu8 | yea...stop pressing beths buttons already |
| 03:17.36 | sussudio | Phated: got kawfee'd? |
| 03:17.41 | H4ppy` | just watched it... i was really amazed |
| 03:17.47 | H4ppy` | i pused a button |
| 03:17.51 | Phated | sussudio: Nah. Windows'ed. :| |
| 03:18.05 | sussudio | Windows'ed? |
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| 03:18.18 | Phated | Nevermind. |
| 03:18.18 | H4ppy` | oh |
| 03:18.18 | sussudio | cygwin?? |
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| 03:18.24 | Phated | Cygwin. |
| 03:18.28 | sussudio | :-| |
| 03:18.32 | H4ppy` | haha, it just went beck to mc |
| 03:18.44 | Phated | Indeed. |
| 03:18.46 | drp | try rm -f * |
| 03:18.49 | drp | j/k |
| 03:18.51 | drp | don't do that |
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| 03:19.06 | sussudio | drp: don't even say that |
| 03:19.10 | drp | i know |
| 03:19.13 | drp | sorry |
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| 03:19.48 | drp | H4ppy`, i'm not sure |
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| 03:20.06 | H4ppy` | what happend, everything went creaxy after i pused rm -f * |
| 03:20.19 | H4ppy` | *after i wrote |
| 03:20.19 | stu8 | hmmm |
| 03:20.20 | Phated | Oh, ffs. |
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| 03:20.24 | H4ppy` | j/k |
| 03:20.29 | stu8 | :) |
| 03:20.46 | drp | :o |
| 03:20.53 | H4ppy` | dont know what it does though, but don't wanne try it.. :P |
| 03:20.54 | vortek | Does any one have and guides for Setting up wireless in debian... I have to use wireless-tools package.. Because I have a crapy trendnet tew-229 wich uses the atmel firmware... Now The device is rocongized when I plug it in and the firmware seemed to install ok. |
| 03:20.57 | drp | you almost made me feel bad |
| 03:21.16 | H4ppy` | what does it do? |
| 03:21.17 | vortek | Im totaly lost now It finaly see's the device when I plug it in but Now I have to make it work wirelessly |
| 03:21.21 | Phated | H4ppy`: man rm. |
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| 03:21.45 | H4ppy` | man rm? |
| 03:21.48 | stu8 | man rm... is he a new movie star, or what ? :) |
| 03:21.49 | drp | yeah |
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| 03:22.08 | drp | he's my favorite |
| 03:22.17 | stu8 | giggle |
| 03:22.17 | wonkty | what is the topic here |
| 03:22.19 | Phated | sussudio: Was kawfee around in the night again, then? |
| 03:22.45 | stu8 | wonkty... how to do a package upgrade in debian |
| 03:23.28 | drp | H4ppy`, did you ever figure out what you needed |
| 03:23.28 | wonkty | thanks |
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| 03:23.28 | H4ppy` | i know what i need, but i do not now how to get it.. ;) |
| 03:23.31 | sussudio | Phated: yes |
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| 03:23.48 | cafuego | meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh |
| 03:23.52 | vortek | Are there any debian WIRELESS guides out there ? |
| 03:23.54 | stu8 | why does everything sexual have to have a connotation ? :) |
| 03:24.04 | cafuego | vortek: Yes |
| 03:24.08 | Phated | sussudio: Ah. |
| 03:24.28 | vortek | Can some one point me to one |
| 03:24.33 | vortek | Cause I'm totaly lost |
| 03:24.53 | drp | you want to run more than one app in the same terminal window correct? H4ppy` |
| 03:25.01 | vortek | AlL I know Is after downloading the firmware package install it When I plug in my wireless usb it recongnizes it finaly |
| 03:25.05 | Phated | Use screen for that. |
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| 03:25.31 | Phated | Granted, why you'd want to, other than during an ssh session... |
| 03:25.34 | wonkty | hello.I have a Question here |
| 03:25.42 | sussudio | wonkty: NOOOO |
| 03:25.57 | wonkty | what do you mean,sussudio |
| 03:26.20 | drp | wonkty, wait one moment please and a debian representative will help you |
| 03:26.29 | wonkty | thanks |
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| 03:26.31 | kekostar | hello.. what happend if i do in mu computer in dos mode fdisk /mbr... i have win cp prof installed in it.. do it restart after that normally |
| 03:26.33 | wonkty | :) |
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| 03:26.53 | H4ppy` | im know im repeating my self, but since nither me nor drp found a solution, maybe one of you can... i'll explain what i did and need, there is this program called Enemy Territory... Im hopefully about to start running an server... i started the program by writing ./etded +set fs_game etpro (plus some more + stuff) it's finally running, but the biggest problem now is to start a program called etadmin_mod without closeing the one i have running now |
| 03:27.00 | gravity | !tell wonkty about ask |
| 03:27.07 | cafuego | vortek: What wireless? card? ap? laptop? desktop? |
| 03:27.24 | vortek | ahh |
| 03:27.25 | Phated | H4ppy`: Switch to a new console, run it there. <shrug> |
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| 03:27.27 | sussudio | DSL vs Cable discussion gone bad: * Ender_LT1 pets his cable <as> ender can I pet your cable too? <Ender_LT1> uh... sure? <as> sorry ender. I have cable envy |
| 03:27.27 | stew | H4ppy`: when you start etded put a & at the end of the command line, or use screen |
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| 03:27.39 | drp | that's what i said stew |
| 03:27.40 | H4ppy` | phated, how do i do tghat? |
| 03:27.42 | kekostar | any idea |
| 03:27.45 | cafuego | vortek: Ok, if it's recognised, all you need is 'wireless-tools' so yuop can run 'iwconfig' to set ESSID and key etc. |
| 03:27.47 | vortek | cafuego: Desktop usb wireless trendnet tew-229ub |
| 03:27.49 | cheale1 | a debian representative...hehe |
| 03:27.51 | kekostar | + |
| 03:27.53 | stew | drp: i know but he appears to not want to listen to you for some reason |
| 03:27.54 | wonkty | how to add a c++ program in the boot |
| 03:28.02 | Phated | Oh, ffs. HE doesn't -get- any of this at all. |
| 03:28.04 | vortek | cafuego: Any guedes on iwconfig I know my ssid and channel |
| 03:28.09 | vortek | er guides not guedes |
| 03:28.13 | Phated | H4ppy`: Locate a Linux manual and read it well. Perhaps twice. |
| 03:28.20 | PrideF | is there a linux utility for recovering files that were deleted from a fat partition? |
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| 03:28.23 | stew | wonkty: /msg dpkg rc.local |
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| 03:28.27 | kekostar | hello.. what happend if i do in mu computer in dos mode fdisk /mbr... i have win cp prof installed in it.. do it boot after that normally? |
| 03:28.32 | drp | H4ppy`, am I on "boiling points" |
| 03:28.37 | cheale1 | !repeat |
| 03:28.37 | dpkg | methinks repeat is if nobody answers your question, don't just repeat it. Spamming the channel and getting ignored/banned/silenced isn't going to get a faster answer; spamming is a function of time. More likely, nobody knows the answer (/msg dpkg ask), or you need to provide more information (/msg apt sicco)), or ask about "smart questions" |
| 03:28.45 | drp | H4ppy`, cuz i want my 100 dollars now |
| 03:28.50 | Stereo | hi, I was wondering what debian's policy was regarding packages where the maintainer stops maintaining. I've tried google and the wnpp pages on debian.org but haven't been able to find anything. |
| 03:29.00 | wonkty | thanks,but i am new to debian at all can anyone specfy a bit more?thanks |
| 03:29.15 | drp | wonkty, google it |
| 03:29.21 | H4ppy` | drp: you'll get 100 if you come down here and fix it for me, but you'll have to pay for the ticket.. haha |
| 03:29.25 | cafuego | vortek: ifconfig essid "foo" |
| 03:29.25 | drp | wonkty, or webcrawl it if you like |
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| 03:29.33 | Xemacs_ | where is hook in debootstrap the removes *deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives ? |
| 03:29.38 | cafuego | vortek: iwconfig ethX key s:MyKeY |
| 03:29.42 | cafuego | vortek: ifconfig ethX essid "foo" |
| 03:29.47 | Stereo | (We let people compile stuff in a homegrown distrib on the uni's central server and currently don't have a policy, so I was looking for sensible ideas) |
| 03:29.48 | cafuego | vortek: Run those. |
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| 03:29.52 | vortek | cafuego: no key |
| 03:29.58 | cafuego | vortek: You need not worry about the channel. |
| 03:30.03 | vortek | k |
| 03:30.05 | cafuego | vortek: Ok, never mind the key either, then. |
| 03:30.06 | kekostar | xp |
| 03:30.14 | cafuego | vortek: justs et the ESSID, then dhcp and get an IP. |
| 03:30.19 | myth8y_ | When I open kde 3.3 its say: initializing system services and he stay here until the spash screen disapeir and in .xsession-errors its appeirs this: QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no gui is being used, some body know what its is? |
| 03:30.23 | vortek | k |
| 03:30.27 | kekostar | hello.. what happend if i do in mu computer in dos mode fdisk /mbr... i have win cp prof installed in it.. do it boot after that normally? |
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| 03:30.38 | dns21 | vortek: it may not be ethX, rather wlanX |
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| 03:30.51 | cafuego | vortek: You can add iwconfig directives to /etc/network/interfaces. In your case, you'd add wireless-essid "FOO" for whatever interface it is. |
| 03:30.53 | drp | myth8y_, #debian-kde might be a better place to ask |
| 03:30.56 | cafuego | s/-/_/ |
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| 03:30.58 | drp | if you don't get an answer here |
| 03:31.04 | kekostar | somebody know ?? |
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| 03:32.28 | vortek | cafuego: no wireless extenstions found |
| 03:32.28 | shinobi3 | how do i set up my *nix box [machineA==dual-boot] so that i can get internet access via windows XP's dialup [machineB]? currently when i boot XP on both machines, sharing dialup works fine. |
| 03:32.28 | wonkty | thanks stew |
| 03:32.52 | vortek | cafuego: No wireless extensions found is that normal ? |
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| 03:34.09 | kekostar | hello.. what happend if i do in mu computer in dos mode fdisk /mbr... i have win cp prof installed in it.. do it boot after that normally? |
| 03:34.11 | kekostar | somebody know ?? |
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| 03:34.55 | Xemacs_ | why so many splits ? |
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| 03:35.25 | vortek | brb gona reboot try something realy fast |
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| 03:35.25 | sussudio | Xemacs_: kawfee and his kind, probably |
| 03:35.25 | kekostar | hello.. what happend if i do in mu computer in dos mode fdisk /mbr... i have win cp prof installed in it.. do it boot after that normally? |
| 03:35.25 | vortek | cafuego: any idea what to put in wire-mode ? |
| 03:35.31 | vortek | Its an acces point not ad-hoc |
| 03:35.36 | kekostar | i need to know this pls help! |
| 03:35.39 | myth8y_ | I try to had the linux on hda6 in lilo, but when i try to start with it, its say error oef, some body know what the probleme... presently i'm on hda7 |
| 03:35.47 | Phated | sussudio: Thought there were having network outages and stuff? |
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| 03:36.15 | megahertz | a |
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| 03:36.37 | pingouin | is there any option/command in apt-x that make my printer print the output of some apt- command ?! (like apt-cache search foo) by default ? it's printing it and i not request anything ?! |
| 03:36.48 | sussudio | Phated: *shrug* |
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| 03:37.00 | Phated | sussudio: Ah well. Either way. |
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| 03:37.19 | Goshen | What username does debian use for apache service? |
| 03:37.30 | Goshen | mandrake is apache:apache |
| 03:37.43 | bonez39 | how aobut for Debian? |
| 03:37.43 | Goshen | for user and group |
| 03:37.44 | kekostar | hello.. what happend if i do in mu computer in dos mode fdisk /mbr... i have win cp prof installed in it.. do it boot after that normally? |
| 03:37.45 | bonez39 | can't speel.. |
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| 03:38.47 | usr010 | shootcan i unmount something im having mnt probs with my ssda device |
| 03:38.47 | Goshen | thank you |
| 03:38.57 | usr010 | said som about 2many mnts |
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| 03:39.37 | drp | man unmount |
| 03:39.37 | drp | if that's your question |
| 03:40.09 | Goshen | t0mboy: thank you |
| 03:40.33 | tomb0y | umount. |
| 03:40.57 | myth8y_ | I try to had the linux on hda6 in lilo, but when i try to start with it, its say error oef, some body know what the probleme... presently i'm on hda7 |
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| 03:41.20 | adpenaranda | *man umount |
| 03:41.20 | adpenaranda | :) |
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| 03:41.24 | adpenaranda | so... has anyone else noticed that the servlet api documentation is missing from libservlet2.3-java ? |
| 03:41.30 | Phated | FFS, you asked three minutes ago. If no one knew then, no one knows now. |
| 03:41.43 | guestish | heh |
| 03:41.43 | guestish | sucks dont it? |
| 03:41.45 | sussudio | bvs: test |
| 03:41.54 | guestish | though i really dont care |
| 03:42.00 | alejandro_ | how do I load a module with parameters? |
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| 03:43.52 | guestish | ooo router upgrades |
| 03:43.52 | guestish | nice |
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| 03:44.01 | Phated | Sweet. |
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| 03:44.10 | guestish | this is definitely a stable irc network |
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| 03:44.23 | Phated | Just got stabler. :) |
| 03:44.25 | guestish | heh |
| 03:44.29 | guestish | i wonder what they use... |
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| 03:44.44 | FieldySnuts | dancer |
| 03:44.51 | guestish | i mean as far as equipment |
| 03:44.56 | Phated | Think he means for their routers. |
| 03:45.12 | Phated | No idea, but if they're sponsored... |
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| 03:45.16 | myth8y_ | I try to had the linux on hda6 in lilo, but when i try to start with it, its say error oef, some body know what the probleme... presently i'm on hda7 |
| 03:46.07 | guestish | cant be too bad if they are sponsored :) |
| 03:46.12 | Phated | Indeed. |
| 03:46.20 | guestish | i wonder why they sponsor freenode, i dont see any advertisements anywhere |
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| 03:46.35 | Phated | <shurg> Out of the kindness of their hearts. |
| 03:46.39 | guestish | hah |
| 03:46.41 | Phated | (Hah.) |
| 03:46.42 | guestish | maybe |
| 03:46.51 | PrideF | I have googled, etc. but can't find a _GNU/Linux_ utility to recover deleted files from a vfat filesystem |
| 03:46.52 | robink | How do I turn my collection of cached debian packages into a a package source? |
| 03:46.53 | guestish | but probably not |
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| 03:47.00 | PrideF | anyone know of one? |
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| 03:47.01 | Phated | Probably not. |
| 03:47.17 | robink | I don't want to re-download everything, and I'm thinking I should re-install debian |
| 03:47.29 | guestish | the chances are slim that thats the case, they must have a reason that involves profit |
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| 03:47.37 | Phated | Most likely. |
| 03:47.57 | guestish | that or they are donating junker computers as routers and using it as a tax write off ;) |
| 03:48.12 | Phated | Heh. |
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| 03:48.19 | Phated | Well, heck, freenode gets routers, other unknown entity gets a tax cut. Win-win, eh. :) |
| 03:48.27 | guestish | works for me |
| 03:48.40 | Phated | :) |
| 03:48.55 | guestish | awfully quiet for #debian |
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| 03:49.04 | FieldySnuts | pry stuck in overflow |
| 03:49.16 | Phated | Quiet enough to have discussions about tax cuts without having to address each other. XD |
| 03:49.24 | guestish | crazy isnt it |
| 03:49.29 | FieldySnuts | undress? |
| 03:49.37 | Phated | You can start, FieldySnuts. :) |
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| 03:49.39 | guestish | we should be attacked for our ideas by now |
| 03:49.44 | Phated | Should be. |
| 03:50.21 | guestish | hum.. |
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| 03:50.44 | guestish | soooo...did you watch the superbowl? |
| 03:50.48 | PrideF | I'd attack but my wife is giving me the eye |
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| 03:50.58 | Phated | Nah, I don't do sports. :) |
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| 03:51.14 | guestish | neither do i, but the half-time and pregame shows were good |
| 03:51.23 | ^c | who won it? |
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| 03:51.26 | guestish | dunno |
| 03:51.32 | ^c | me neither |
| 03:51.32 | Phated | Heh. AAMOF we don't even get the superbowl here. |
| 03:51.34 | guestish | some team |
| 03:51.38 | guestish | aamod? |
| 03:51.39 | guestish | aamof? |
| 03:51.41 | guestish | !aamof |
| 03:51.41 | sussudio | you get Singapore Idol |
| 03:51.45 | Phated | EW\ |
| 03:51.51 | Phated | That's over now, thank god. |
| 03:51.51 | guestish | lol |
| 03:51.54 | guestish | whats aamof? |
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| 03:52.01 | Phated | As A Matter Of Fact. |
| 03:52.10 | guestish | singapore idol...lol |
| 03:52.20 | Phated | Gawd, don't joke about it. |
| 03:52.30 | stew | i assume there were no 'wardrobe malfunctions' during the half time show this year? |
| 03:52.34 | guestish | patiots won |
| 03:52.37 | guestish | patriots |
| 03:52.41 | guestish | na, it was paul mccartney |
| 03:52.44 | prad | every country has an idol show now |
| 03:52.51 | guestish | no one would care if he took off his bra, though i doubt he has one |
| 03:52.57 | ^c | paul mccartney pulled terry bradshaw's top off |
| 03:53.02 | guestish | lol |
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| 03:53.46 | ^c | and terry bradshaw pulled off paul mccartney's touppee |
| 03:53.50 | guestish | mm |
| 03:54.01 | guestish | win-win eh? ;) |
| 03:54.17 | ^c | then I gouged my eyes out |
| 03:54.17 | Phated | Hah. |
| 03:54.33 | guestish | you shoulda done that right off the bat ^c |
| 03:54.43 | guestish | saved you the trouble |
| 03:54.51 | jannol | I have an error, segmentation fault, I am pretty sure all my hardware is configured right with the kernel but I have an 'old' kernel, could that be why I get this error when I try to run entrance |
| 03:55.07 | guestish | jannol: ye old kernel? |
| 03:55.09 | ^c | at least that would have been an interesting half-time show |
| 03:55.19 | guestish | hey, i liked the half-time show |
| 03:55.29 | jannol | 2.4.21 |
| 03:55.36 | guestish | meh, just old, not ye old |
| 03:56.02 | Phated | Ye olde kernele, mind. |
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| 03:56.26 | scarynetworkguy | Heh. |
| 03:56.27 | guestish | that would be 2.0.2 :) |
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| 03:56.44 | guestish | meh |
| 03:56.51 | Phated | Pah, 1,8! :) If... anyone even thinks of using those by now. |
| 03:57.01 | guestish | there was a 1.8? |
| 03:57.02 | guestish | who knew |
| 03:57.03 | guestish | :) |
| 03:57.13 | Phated | Well, you don't go from 0 to 2.0, do you. |
| 03:57.19 | guestish | sure you do |
| 03:57.20 | jannol | yes ok, but since I mostly discuss with people that have 2.6 it is old for them |
| 03:57.24 | guestish | people do it all the time |
| 03:57.32 | Phated | Weirdos. |
| 03:57.35 | guestish | it goes 0.1, 0.2, 5 |
| 03:57.38 | guestish | :) |
| 03:57.45 | jannol | heh ;) |
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| 03:57.55 | scarynetworkguy | Kernel XP |
| 03:57.57 | jannol | u're funny people |
| 03:58.11 | guestish | scarynetworkguy: that would be 1.a =P |
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| 03:58.17 | guestish | jannol: suureee we are |
| 03:58.17 | Phated | And you can type 'you'. A regular circus, aren't we. |
| 03:58.18 | jannol | orange kernel |
| 03:58.19 | scarynetworkguy | guestish: Heh. |
| 03:58.34 | guestish | !u |
| 03:58.34 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 03:58.51 | jannol | UUU ? |
| 03:58.55 | jannol | heh |
| 03:59.00 | guestish | mae |
| 03:59.05 | Goldfisch | I am trying to configure an OKI B4200 model printer in CUPS. I am told it uses the same drivers as HP. Anybody know which one? |
| 03:59.12 | vortek | cafuego: I tried that but Get an error no wireless extensions, Any suggestions ? |
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| 03:59.15 | jannol | see, me fro swe, me not kare |
| 03:59.27 | vortek | er googles |
| 03:59.44 | guestish | jannol: you die now |
| 03:59.52 | jannol | anyway(s) can I have a hint of help ? |
| 03:59.58 | Phated | Let's see how you continue not caring when we don't kelp. :) |
| 04:00.07 | guestish | !die jannol |
| 04:00.12 | Phated | Since, well, I don't know anyway. <shrug> |
| 04:00.17 | guestish | awww |
| 04:00.21 | guestish | !murder jannol |
| 04:00.25 | guestish | yay |
| 04:00.42 | guestish | i didnt even get the question |
| 04:00.42 | Phated | Violent people, aren't we. |
| 04:00.50 | Phated | guestish: Something about entrance. |
| 04:00.58 | jannol | yes |
| 04:00.58 | Phated | And a segfault. |
| 04:00.59 | guestish | its all bob's fault |
| 04:01.04 | Phated | Of course. |
| 04:01.12 | guestish | whoever bob is |
| 04:01.22 | Phated | Bob isn't a person, bob is a variable. |
| 04:01.30 | guestish | ah, i see |
| 04:01.30 | jannol | heh |
| 04:01.43 | jannol | do I need any kernel patches ? |
| 04:01.49 | guestish | so bob is a diety too |
| 04:01.52 | guestish | afk |
| 04:02.06 | Phated | What the heck is entrance, anyway? |
| 04:02.23 | sussudio | Phated: sunda sunda sunda sunda |
| 04:02.33 | Phated | sussudio: ? |
| 04:02.37 | jannol | its a display manager as ex. gdm |
| 04:02.48 | sussudio | Phated: it's what they call the stinkbadger in malay |
| 04:02.58 | Phated | sussudio: I can't speak Malay. As evidenced. |
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| 04:03.02 | sussudio | Phated: or teledu |
| 04:03.03 | FieldySnuts | entrance is E17's login manager |
| 04:03.09 | ^c | has anybody tried to patch 2.6.10 debian kernel with ck |
| 04:03.16 | sussudio | ^c: NEIN |
| 04:03.25 | bonez39 | to upgrade just one package would it be apt-get upgrade 'package name' ? |
| 04:03.29 | Phated | And why would you think a dm/login manager would be affected by the kernel? |
| 04:03.34 | stew | bonez39: no, apt-get install |
| 04:03.37 | Phated | bonez39: No, it would be to apt-get install. |
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| 04:03.52 | bonez39 | stew, Phated thank you.. |
| 04:03.52 | ^c | well I guess here will go nothing |
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| 04:04.14 | jannol | entrance can be used as standalone |
| 04:04.23 | Phated | Again, why would it be affected by your kernel? |
| 04:04.46 | jannol | since it uses kinda heavy 3d gl render methods |
| 04:04.48 | ^c | the only time I tried e17 firefox crashed whenever i tried to start it |
| 04:05.15 | scarynetworkguy | jannol: Which has nothing to do with your kernel but everything to do with your....? |
| 04:05.29 | jannol | e17 isn't official as alpha or anything so e17 is very much w.i.p |
| 04:05.29 | sussudio | \o/ |
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| 04:06.35 | jannol | scarynetworkguy, well since there seem to be --errors-no with my .... I just thought... |
| 04:07.00 | scarynetworkguy | jannol: No you were supposed to fill in the blank with the logical bit of software to blame. |
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| 04:07.40 | jannol | bob ? |
| 04:07.47 | prad | hey whats the default port for swat ? |
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| 04:08.14 | drac | prad: cat /etc/services | grep swat |
| 04:08.14 | jannol | memory |
| 04:08.15 | jannol | aha |
| 04:08.24 | prad | ta drac |
| 04:09.03 | jannol | hmm, so it is a memory issue then ?! right ? |
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| 04:09.20 | inviso_ | I'm setting up mysql on a new debian box and noticed a 'debian-sys-maint' user. Any idea what this user is used for? |
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| 04:09.37 | ^c | hmm didn't patch cleanly, hope it will compile |
| 04:09.54 | toresbe | !uuoc $1 is <action> hands $1 the "unnessecary use of cat" award |
| 04:09.54 | dpkg | okay, toresbe |
| 04:09.57 | toresbe | stew: :) |
| 04:10.01 | dondelelcaro | ^c: if it didn't patch cleanly, then you work through the rejects properly |
| 04:10.08 | toresbe | !uuoc stew |
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| 04:10.30 | ^c | dondelelcaro: they where mostly for sparc and x86_64, neither or which affect me |
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| 04:10.41 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: uuoc =~ s/unnessecary/unnecessary/ |
| 04:10.41 | dpkg | that doesn't contain 'unnessecary', dondelelcaro |
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| 04:10.58 | RedPenguin | I see |
| 04:11.03 | stew | !uuoc $1 =~/unnessecary/unnecessary/ |
| 04:11.10 | stew | err |
| 04:11.26 | stew | i need more sleep |
| 04:11.34 | peterS | stew: eh? when did UUOC get changed? it's supposed to be "Useless Use of Cat" |
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| 04:11.44 | dondelelcaro | !uuoc |
| 04:11.44 | dpkg | from memory, uuoc is Useless Use of Cat Award. Given out for years by Randal Schwartz on the newsgroup comp.unix.shell. Basically, most constructions that look like "cat filename | grep pattern" can be more easily written as "grep pattern filename". Works for grep and most other Unix utilities. Easier to type and marginally more efficient. |
| 04:11.58 | stew | peterS: toresbe i minute ago |
| 04:12.06 | dondelelcaro | peterS: it still is, just that there's a command to give out the uuoc |
| 04:12.07 | stew | err s/i/1/ cripes |
| 04:12.10 | dondelelcaro | !uuoc peterS |
| 04:12.14 | RedPenguin | Is there really any other console IRC clients to try then irssi or bitchx? |
| 04:12.28 | dondelelcaro | RedPenguin: probably, but it's not like you need a different one than irssi-text |
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| 04:12.48 | kurumin | ol |
| 04:12.51 | ^c | !pinch $1 is <action> pinches $1 on the ass |
| 04:12.51 | dpkg | ^c: okay |
| 04:13.03 | ^c | !pinch me |
| 04:13.12 | peterS | !forget cmd: pinch (.*?) |
| 04:13.15 | dpkg | i forgot CMD: pinch (.*?), peterS |
| 04:13.19 | peterS | we have about enough actions |
| 04:14.06 | chealer | kurumin: what do you want? |
| 04:14.08 | ^c | whois peterS |
| 04:14.11 | stew | !peterssmite ^c |
| 04:14.30 | jordo23 | Does anyone know why I am getting the following when running ./configure to compile a source code package??::checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 04:14.36 | ^c | !unforget cmd: pinch (.?) |
| 04:14.36 | dpkg | ^c: safe delete has been disable so what is there to undelete? |
| 04:14.59 | dondelelcaro | jordo23: you don't have xlib-dev installed. |
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| 04:15.10 | jordo23 | let me install it.... |
| 04:15.19 | RedPenguin | I know, I just feel like trying another IRC cleint or something new |
| 04:15.39 | inviso_ | Anyone know why there is a 'debian-sys-maint' installed by default for mysql 4.1 on debian? |
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| 04:16.07 | dondelelcaro | inviso_: because the packaging system needs to be able to connect to the database server to do various cron job maintenance tasks |
| 04:16.46 | jordo23 | dondelelcaro: do you know what package I would have to install? xlib-dev isn't found?? |
| 04:16.55 | dondelelcaro | jordo23: it's xlibs-dev |
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| 04:18.26 | bonez39 | what causes some packages to be marked "the following packages have been kept back" ? |
| 04:18.35 | stew | bonez39: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 04:18.40 | inviso_ | dondelelcaro: it's a fully privileged user with no database and no apparent purpose. If I remove it, what will break? |
| 04:18.43 | jordo23 | dondelecaro: thanks |
| 04:19.13 | dondelelcaro | inviso_: the cron jobs, the postinst and preinst scripts, etc. a lot of things that you really don't want to break will. |
| 04:19.31 | inviso_ | dondelelcaro: do they create their own databases? |
| 04:19.35 | dondelelcaro | inviso_: and the user shouldn't be fully priviledged... it should only be able to connect, and do a few administrative tasks. |
| 04:19.52 | dondelelcaro | inviso_: no, read through the cron jobs, etc. It's all explained there. |
| 04:20.15 | jordo23 | dondelelcaro: installed xlibs-dev fine....now when .configure i am getting: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! |
| 04:20.25 | dondelelcaro | inviso_: read /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian for starters |
| 04:20.33 | dondelelcaro | jordo23: then you don't have libqt3-dev installed. |
| 04:20.41 | dondelelcaro | !tell jordo23 about search |
| 04:20.48 | inviso_ | dondelelcaro: thanks, I'll start there |
| 04:20.49 | dondelelcaro | jordo23: use what dpkg told you to find these things |
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| 04:23.00 | usr010 | modprobe? |
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| 04:24.43 | drp | !ffs |
| 04:24.43 | dpkg | methinks ffs is for fuck's sake, or for fine's sake. UCB's Fast File System, or for fearl's sake, or forgetfearl syndrome, or for Fooz' sake |
| 04:25.13 | toresbe | is OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 safe? |
| 04:25.17 | toresbe | !pdp-11 |
| 04:25.33 | toresbe | whoops, that last one was wrong-window |
| 04:25.40 | toresbe | not the first one :P |
| 04:27.12 | guestish | yes or no |
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| 04:28.09 | Ryushin | I'm moving a RedHat 6.2 mail server over to Debian Sarge. I need to crack the passwords from the old server and put them into the mysql database on the new mail server. There are about 1200 passwords that I need to break. They are in unix crypt. I've been using JtR to crack them. I've used some good word lists and I've been able to crack about half so far. The rest need to be brute forced. |
| 04:28.31 | jordo23 | Is there a way to use a different server than ftp.debian.org when doing an install through apt-get? |
| 04:28.33 | Micha99 | . /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.5" not found, required by "cp" |
| 04:28.34 | gfhfh | lol |
| 04:28.40 | Micha99 | any idea how to resolve this? |
| 04:28.40 | vortek | HERE's your SIGN |
| 04:28.44 | vortek | :) |
| 04:28.45 | Micha99 | I have a backup of /lib/libc.so.5 but I cannot copy it over the current |
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| 04:28.48 | Ryushin | Any thoughts on how long it would take to run through all combinations of 8 characters? |
| 04:29.14 | Phated | 8 alphanumeric characters, combining upper and lower case? |
| 04:29.39 | jorgp | I think it would also depend on machine speed |
| 04:29.42 | Ryushin | yes, alpha, charcter, symbols of the number keys. |
| 04:29.56 | Ryushin | 2 ghz athlon. |
| 04:29.59 | Phated | That's... 72**8. |
| 04:30.03 | jordo23 | Is there a way to use a different server than ftp.debian.org when doing an install through apt-get? |
| 04:30.09 | Ryushin | Two bad JtR isn't threaded because it's a smp box. |
| 04:30.41 | Phated | ihWch is approximately 7.222410363x10**14 |
| 04:30.44 | Ryushin | It's doing 747,000 c/s right now. |
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| 04:31.04 | jorgp | jordo23: yes, use any debian mirror, ftp.us.debian.org, ftp.uk.debian.org or replace with your country code |
| 04:31.27 | Phated | Of course, doing that alone doesn't take into considertation things like punctuation, for example the ', ., :, keys and so on. |
| 04:32.00 | scarynetworkguy | Ryushin: Depends on how random the password in question is. |
| 04:32.05 | Ryushin | I know. |
| 04:32.41 | Phated | But if you want to take in punctuation... that's 92**8. Have fun. :) |
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| 04:32.48 | Ryushin | Realy? I didn't think brute force would make any difference if the password was random. Just the different types of characters used. |
| 04:32.59 | Phated | Oh, sorry, 94**8. |
| 04:33.11 | nitrocks | anyone know why apache would force to download a directory or any of its conents.. instead of allowing me to navigate into it? |
| 04:33.21 | scarynetworkguy | Ryushin: Most modern crackers try the obvious stuff first. What kind os system are you cracking? |
| 04:33.28 | dondelelcaro | nitrocks: as in what example? |
| 04:33.51 | Ryushin | Just mail passwords. I've made some good word lists, and ran those. I've cracked a bit more than half so far using those. |
| 04:33.55 | jorgp | jordo23: http://www.debian.org/mirror/ |
| 04:34.11 | Ryushin | Now I'm left with brut force. |
| 04:34.16 | Phated | Ryushin: Of course, plenty of people have more than 8 characters in their password. |
| 04:34.18 | cafuego | !72**8/747000 |
| 04:34.18 | dpkg | 966806072.702457785606 |
| 04:34.32 | Ryushin | Yea, in MD5, but not in crypt. |
| 04:34.33 | Phated | cafuego: 94**8, actually. |
| 04:34.35 | nitrocks | when i type in the ip of my machine i get a directory listing.. "Index of:....." the two directories listed are apach2-default.. and flatgallery |
| 04:35.02 | nitrocks | i'm able to navigate into the apache directory and i then see the standard apache page |
| 04:35.05 | cafuego | !94**8/(747000*3600*24*365) |
| 04:35.05 | dpkg | 258.759092917026 |
| 04:35.11 | cafuego | Ryushin: 260 years |
| 04:35.16 | Phated | Heh. |
| 04:35.21 | nitrocks | when i try to navigate into the flatgallery directory.. its gives me a download prompt |
| 04:35.25 | Phated | What's 747000, then? |
| 04:35.35 | cafuego | Phated: chars/sec he said |
| 04:35.39 | dondelelcaro | Phated: hashes per second or something |
| 04:35.39 | Phated | Ah. |
| 04:36.03 | cafuego | Ryushin: I could run it much faster on this 65bit box ;-) |
| 04:36.06 | Ryushin | So I can go home now. |
| 04:36.12 | Phated | Probably. :) |
| 04:36.12 | cafuego | eh. |
| 04:36.15 | cafuego | 4 |
| 04:36.32 | nitrocks | dondelecaro: any ideas? |
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| 04:36.53 | Phated | And whoever this is you're trying to crack, send him an email and a nickel. :) |
| 04:37.00 | dondelelcaro | nitrocks: what is flatgallery? |
| 04:37.02 | scarynetworkguy | Heh. |
| 04:37.02 | Phated | Oh, heck, make it a dime, even. XD |
| 04:37.15 | Ryushin | I could use a quantum computer. Could I borrow it. |
| 04:37.23 | scarynetworkguy | Ryushin: No. |
| 04:37.26 | dondelelcaro | nitrocks: and if flatgallery is sending a mimetype that isn't something that your webbrowser can display, it'll download it. |
| 04:37.55 | Ryushin | This is my client. I'm consulting with him to move him from the old redhat 6.2 box to debian sarge. |
| 04:38.04 | nitrocks | its a directory that contains an image gallery PHP program.. |
| 04:38.09 | Phated | Well, he obviously chose a fairly good password. |
| 04:38.12 | Phated | :) |
| 04:38.12 | dondelelcaro | nitrocks: if you go HEAD path/to/flatgallyer; you'll most likely see something else. |
| 04:38.13 | nitrocks | contains a file called index.php |
| 04:38.31 | cafuego | Gallery! |
| 04:38.37 | cafuego | YAAAAARRRGGGHH!! |
| 04:38.37 | nostromo^ | is there a way to see a sent message in mutt? (defaults, didn't change anything in muttrc) |
| 04:38.40 | Ryushin | I already cracked his personally. :) It's the remaining users that I need to convert. |
| 04:38.53 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: the y is on a trip to the left of the sentence... |
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| 04:39.19 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: I'm working on a UI for a DVD for schools that contains 8500 images. |
| 04:39.19 | Phated | Ryushin: Heh. |
| 04:39.25 | Phated | Yeow. |
| 04:39.30 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: bleh |
| 04:39.41 | Phated | Jesus, man, why? No one ever watches those DVDs. |
| 04:39.43 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: Apache::Gallery? :-) |
| 04:40.31 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: No, standalone. i do have a nice PHP script that take a file as input and spits out pages, images, resized thumbnails, dynamic headers (with ttf text) and a datafile for a flash script. |
| 04:40.46 | nitrocks | hmm.. odd, i just created another directory called test.. and i'm able to navigate to that |
| 04:40.46 | dondelelcaro | icky |
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| 04:41.02 | nitrocks | do you think there is some weird code in the index.php file thats giving me problems? |
| 04:41.03 | Phated | Are the perms on the dirs different? |
| 04:41.11 | dondelelcaro | nitrocks: it has nothing to do with the directory, and everything to do with the mimetype that the php file is outputting |
| 04:41.23 | dondelelcaro | (or the fact that the php file isn't actually being run) |
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| 04:42.51 | nitrocks | how do i go about manipulating the mime-type that it is outputting |
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| 04:43.15 | dondelelcaro | nitrocks: first off, figure out what mime type it's outputting. wget -S; or HEAD; to do that. |
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| 04:44.49 | nitrocks | its giving me a content-type of "application/x-httpd-php" |
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| 04:44.58 | dondelelcaro | nitrocks: it's not actually running the php script. |
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| 04:45.21 | dondelelcaro | nitrocks: you either 1) don't have mod_php loaded, 2) don't have the proper AddType option |
| 04:45.22 | Gumby | can anyone in here tell me what would cause an IRQ to be disabled when a module is loaded in one distro but not another when the same kernel is being used? (the module is yenta_socket) |
| 04:45.45 | nitrocks | i see |
| 04:45.49 | inviso_ | Ok, that readme states that the user is needed to startup and shutdown the database. This is unecessary unless it's meant to enhance security in some way. Furthermore, the password for this user is in plain text at /etc/mysql/debian.cnf and the db user has full privs. They can shutdown the db, but they can also create dbs, drop dbs, and even grant privileges! From what we see, the password is used to obtain root-like access t |
| 04:45.49 | inviso_ | and used to check table integrity. Any reason not to pull all privs but Process and Shutdown if the db is already installed? |
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| 04:46.18 | dondelelcaro | inviso_: it should have been created with just those privileges initially. |
| 04:46.26 | simonrvn | yup |
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| 04:46.48 | inviso_ | dondelelcaro: does process and shutdown seem sufficient? Looks like it's rotating bin logs in the cron jobs too. |
| 04:47.07 | inviso_ | dondelelcaro: and where should I report this as a bug report? |
| 04:47.14 | dondelelcaro | !bts |
| 04:47.14 | dpkg | bts is, like, the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 04:47.16 | dondelelcaro | inviso_: ^^ |
| 04:47.21 | nitrocks | one more quick question.. where should i start to look if i want to track down this problem: I set up a proftpd server on on my linux box.. internally, i can connect to it fine, if someone trys to connect externally, they get a login error |
| 04:47.41 | WiFiTux | who's going to the OLS? |
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| 04:48.42 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 04:48.43 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/ | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Knoppix/Ubuntu/Mepis are NOT Debian | Sarge Base+Standard frozen; installer: /msg dpkg d-i | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | Meet dondelelcaro at SCALE 3x [2/12/05] |
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| 04:48.59 | dondelelcaro | (and whoever else is going to be at scale 3x |
| 04:49.01 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, ? |
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| 04:49.15 | WiFiTux | what's scale 3x? why not OLS? |
| 04:49.16 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: ? |
| 04:49.45 | Ryushin | Thanks for the info all. Going to do some more research. Have a good day/night/sleep. |
| 04:49.55 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/ |
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| 04:50.10 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, ok :) |
| 04:50.43 | DarknessX | I'm getting this error on apt-get update: "Err ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/contrib Sources | Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file." On all of my querys. Is Kernel.org no longer actively mirroring, or is this a temporary thing? |
| 04:51.30 | dondelelcaro | DarknessX: it should be mirrors.kernel.org/debian unstable/contrib etc. |
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| 04:51.37 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, can we share rooms? |
| 04:51.40 | dondelelcaro | DarknessX: rerun apt-setup; to get it right |
| 04:51.47 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: I'm driving in |
| 04:52.01 | DarknessX | dondelelcaro: weird, thanks for pointing that out. Why the heck would it have changed like that, I wonder |
| 04:52.21 | mwilson | When was kernel.org ever a Debian mirror? |
| 04:52.22 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, I know you want to.. |
| 04:52.42 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: sure, you can have my non-existant hotel room that I'm not going to pay for or reserve. |
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| 04:52.55 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: mirrors.kernel.org is |
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| 04:53.16 | mwilson | I don't see a Debian mirror directory there. |
| 04:53.22 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ |
| 04:53.35 | budi-- | hi how to i put sender name as "Linux-Box Admin" instead of root@domain when i use 'mail' shell command? |
| 04:53.41 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, haha ok, I wish there was one in Miami or something... CA ticket is $450 and MIA is $150 it's impossible to go to these places from Costa Rica... |
| 04:53.41 | mwilson | Like I said, I don't see it there. |
| 04:53.47 | DarknessX | dondelelcaro: in my sources.list it's correct, afaik: "deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ unstable main" |
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| 04:53.51 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: I'm looking directly at it... |
| 04:54.02 | mwilson | Ah, hidden. |
| 04:54.12 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, OLS only the ticket for me is $620 cheapest. |
| 04:54.18 | digress | where is the source for apache by default in debian? |
| 04:54.29 | vulture | digress: why would there be any source in debian? |
| 04:54.30 | zeeble | digress: source? |
| 04:54.34 | dondelelcaro | digress: wherever you stick it. apt-get source apache; |
| 04:54.50 | dondelelcaro | DarknessX: the line you have for contrib isn't, though. |
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| 04:55.08 | dondelelcaro | DarknessX: more explicitely, the deb-src line you have for contrib |
| 04:55.13 | digress | heh, well, I was just trying to add mod_webdav, and it says I need to build against my apche sources . . . I would love to just have a bnary |
| 04:55.19 | jordo23 | dondelelcaro: I installed the packages in order to run ./configure....now I am getting this: checking for KDE... configure: error: |
| 04:55.19 | jordo23 | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
| 04:55.19 | jordo23 | So, check this please and use another prefix! |
| 04:55.33 | digress | is there any interactive apt-get, where I can browse the onoline repository or something? |
| 04:55.37 | DarknessX | dondelelcaro: "deb-src ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ unstable main contrib" |
| 04:55.45 | digress | or is ti something I should google for? |
| 04:55.46 | dondelelcaro | digress: apt-get install libapache-mod-dav |
| 04:55.51 | dondelelcaro | !tell digress about search |
| 04:55.58 | ^c | jordo23: ./configure --prefix=/usr |
| 04:56.05 | digress | dondelelcaro, thanks a mllion |
| 04:56.19 | dondelelcaro | digress: hrm... well, it should work... possible that they're not a full mirror any more |
| 04:56.24 | budi-- | hi how to i put sender name as "Linux-Box Admin" instead of root@domain when i use 'mail' shell command? |
| 04:56.41 | dondelelcaro | budi--: you set your From properly in the mail that you send out. |
| 04:56.51 | dondelelcaro | there's nothing magical about the From: line |
| 04:58.09 | zeeble | look at the -a switch. you can set the headers through it. |
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| 04:58.32 | DarknessX | dondelelcaro: if I switch to http instead of ftp it works. So I guess I'll just stick with that |
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| 04:58.59 | dondelelcaro | DarknessX: ah... yeah, I only played with http... no idea about the ftp mirror. |
| 04:59.36 | jordo23 | dondelelcaro: what does it mean by "prefix" in that case? |
| 04:59.44 | DarknessX | thanks for the help |
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| 04:59.56 | zeeble | ./configure --help |
| 05:00.03 | dondelelcaro | jordo23: depends on the makefile. |
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| 05:00.45 | jordo23 | dondelelcaro: when I ran that....I got: checking for KDE... configure: error: |
| 05:00.45 | jordo23 | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
| 05:00.45 | jordo23 | So, check this please and use another prefix! |
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| 05:01.16 | dondelelcaro | jordo23: that message is totally wrong. THe install directory better not need the headers. |
| 05:01.25 | dondelelcaro | jordo23: what package are you bulding? |
| 05:01.35 | jordo23 | smoothdock |
| 05:02.05 | zeeble | do you have KDE installed in the first place? and the kde libraries? |
| 05:02.17 | dondelelcaro | jordo23: well, read their readme, or look at the configure script, because that's pretty much broken behavior. |
| 05:02.18 | jordo23 | I have KDE installed.... |
| 05:02.34 | dondelelcaro | jordo23: 'course, you may still be missing headers. |
| 05:02.46 | jordo23 | how do I make sure I have all KDe headers? |
| 05:02.57 | dondelelcaro | jordo23: look at config.log |
| 05:03.23 | usr010 | how do i copy all files in a directory tree |
| 05:03.36 | dondelelcaro | usr010: cp -r; man cp; |
| 05:03.45 | usr010 | cool tanx |
| 05:04.08 | usr010 | i figured it was cp i typed cp an saw backup stuff flood my screen |
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| 05:05.03 | zeeble | jordo23: is'nt there any Debian package for smoothdock? |
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| 05:07.24 | digress | dondelelcaro, how can I make apt-get only pull packages from web-repositpries, since I lost my debian cd |
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| 05:07.37 | rob__ | yo |
| 05:07.38 | vulture | digress: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:07.48 | zeeble | digress: apt-setup |
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| 05:08.04 | usr010 | wow im copying my ipod its the only backup tht survived my disk format |
| 05:08.18 | usr010 | <--complete idiot |
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| 05:09.07 | zeeble | ugh |
| 05:09.09 | dondelelcaro | styraph0me: do not do that. |
| 05:09.13 | styraph0me | sporrry! |
| 05:09.15 | styraph0me | didnt mean to |
| 05:09.27 | cafuego | styraph0me: Then don't |
| 05:09.31 | styraph0me | i typed the wrong thibng, and pressed tab by accident |
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| 05:13.45 | ardy | whats is the filesystem layout of debian... because lots of linux apps not written for debian place stuff in consistantly /usr/local and many debian package programs are in /usr/bin where should they be? |
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| 05:14.29 | stew | ardy: /msg dpkg fhs |
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| 05:15.07 | xonic | my apt sources list is all messed up... i was running the latest unstable tree off of mirrors.kernel.org but something changed and now apt says the directory isn't found |
| 05:15.22 | Jamsi | lol |
| 05:15.52 | Jamsi | cd /etc/apt/ ? |
| 05:15.55 | haroldzoid | xonic: the same thing happened to me, just change the server to ftp.us.debian.org and you should be ok |
| 05:15.59 | xonic | k |
| 05:16.02 | xonic | lemme try that |
| 05:16.37 | xonic | oh, how lovely :) apt-get update is working now :D.. |
| 05:16.54 | xonic | now to see if dist-upgrade does the trick. |
| 05:18.31 | xonic | i love apt.. it's like, the perfect way to get stuff |
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| 05:19.28 | xonic | haroldzoid: thnx for the help :D |
| 05:19.47 | common | xonic: apt lacks something to downliad music and videos |
| 05:20.01 | xonic | hmn, ipod + apt? aptunes? |
| 05:20.07 | Supaplex | ha |
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| 05:20.19 | Jamsi | apt-get install ipod |
| 05:20.47 | xonic | lol, that would be a really neat application of apt, as a bittorrent client |
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| 05:21.16 | xonic | apt-get music / video whatever then it'd install it on your ipod |
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| 05:21.32 | xonic | i don't know how to use bittorrent for linux |
| 05:21.44 | xonic | i'm a windows whore (who is in the process of converting to a linux user) |
| 05:21.51 | zeeble | xonic: well, there are lots of torrent clients. apt-cache search bittorrent |
| 05:22.00 | Supaplex | hehe yup |
| 05:22.00 | haroldzoid | xonic: you should check out azureus |
| 05:22.05 | zeeble | xonic: azureus, bittornado, bittornado-gui |
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| 05:22.19 | common | apt-media get apocaliyptica/* |
| 05:22.22 | Supaplex | mmm bittornado |
| 05:22.47 | xonic | truthfully, as a windows user, i don't find linux to be all that hard once i read a whole bunch of the documentation it came with |
| 05:23.00 | Nurbs | lol |
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| 05:23.13 | Supaplex | dondelelcaro: has something to do with homosexual childhood experiences I guess... ;) |
| 05:23.17 | xonic | i think it's just microsoft FUD when they say linux is hard to use, it seems pretty straightforward... the boot process kinda scares me, theres alot of information in there |
| 05:23.23 | dondelelcaro | the thing's not even in Debian, it's java, and... blech |
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| 05:23.38 | zeeble | heh |
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| 05:24.15 | xonic | the best thing is apt... if my girlfriend had apt i'd be set :) apt-get me-a-beer :D |
| 05:24.28 | xonic | well, apt-get me-a-beer-please i suppose |
| 05:24.40 | holy_cow | apt-get me a bj |
| 05:24.44 | xonic | or that.. |
| 05:24.46 | xonic | hehehe.. |
| 05:24.48 | Supaplex | xonic: marketing is about perception. M$ is good at fueling that to their favor. sadly too many fools fall for it. |
| 05:24.49 | holy_cow | nope, mine doesn't have it either |
| 05:24.51 | holy_cow | >_> |
| 05:24.57 | Jamsi | xonic: lol. Bash.orgable |
| 05:25.03 | rxc | hello, how can i access the debian menu in windowmaker? |
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| 05:25.06 | digress | dondelelcaro, I tried that with the http resource . . .but when I "apt-get install libapache-mod-dav" it comes back with "unmet dependencies" libapache-mod-dav: Depends: libxmltok1 but it is not installable |
| 05:25.06 | david_ | depends on who she gets u i suppose ..:-) |
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| 05:25.20 | digress | do I have to install libxmltok1 manually? |
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| 05:25.28 | Supaplex | very carefully |
| 05:25.31 | dondelelcaro | !info libxmltok1 |
| 05:25.39 | xonic | well, i decided to try out Debian because my friend said that it was the best distro to use, and i (L) it.. it runs on my laptop just fine, and after he showed me how to recompile my kernel and all that, i feel special :D |
| 05:25.46 | ardy | Where is the general path set (for all users) |
| 05:25.51 | Supaplex | now wtf did I switch the kvm to this box for? ... |
| 05:25.53 | dpkg | libxmltok1: (XML Parser Toolkit, runtime libraries), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 164 kB |
| 05:25.55 | dondelelcaro | digress: ^^^^^ |
| 05:26.07 | holy_cow | xonic, definately one of the easiest, especially with the new d-i installer |
| 05:26.08 | dondelelcaro | !+info libxmltok1 sarge |
| 05:26.09 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 05:26.12 | holy_cow | are you running sarge? |
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| 05:26.26 | digress | !info libxmltok1 |
| 05:26.31 | dpkg | libxmltok1: (XML Parser Toolkit, runtime libraries), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 164 kB |
| 05:26.32 | dpkg | libxmltok1: (XML Parser Toolkit, runtime libraries), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 164 kB |
| 05:26.42 | xonic | holy_cow: the way i was showed, was to make menuconfig && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install && make install |
| 05:26.46 | digress | dondelelcaro, thank you |
| 05:26.49 | dondelelcaro | digress: so you should have no problem installing it, assuming you've run apt-get update; recently. |
| 05:26.56 | xonic | and that pretty much takes care of it, then i run lilo and it's all good to go |
| 05:26.57 | holy_cow | xonic, heh, no need for that at all |
| 05:26.58 | dondelelcaro | blearch |
| 05:27.02 | dondelelcaro | !kp mantra |
| 05:27.02 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version $(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version $(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image; |
| 05:27.04 | xonic | really? |
| 05:27.07 | holy_cow | yep |
| 05:27.07 | Tabitha | will installing mysql4 automatically upgrade mysql3? |
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| 05:27.29 | holy_cow | xonic, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 05:27.32 | holy_cow | thats the new installer |
| 05:27.44 | holy_cow | it autodetecs everything for you |
| 05:27.45 | Tabitha | i.e. mysql data -> mysql4 |
| 05:27.53 | dondelelcaro | Tabitha: there's only a mysql-server package that's v4 iirc... |
| 05:27.53 | holy_cow | you just kinda tape your enter key down and walk away |
| 05:28.03 | david_ | The kernel compilation mantra is make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --revision |
| 05:28.04 | david_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:28.04 | david_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:28.04 | david_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:28.14 | dondelelcaro | Tabitha: so it should upgrade from v3 to v4 [although, I'd grab a backup if I were you] |
| 05:28.20 | xonic | holy_cow: really?! it'll autodetect hardware for me and then set up a kernel compile? |
| 05:28.30 | holy_cow | no need to setup kernel to compile |
| 05:28.40 | holy_cow | the debian kernel loads almost all modules dyhamically |
| 05:28.46 | holy_cow | theres actually very little compiled into it |
| 05:28.47 | zeeble | xonic: it will set you up with kernel 2.6.8 |
| 05:28.49 | holy_cow | as there is no real need |
| 05:28.55 | xonic | i'm using kernel 2.6.10 |
| 05:29.02 | holy_cow | you only compile kernels if you really really really have a specific need |
| 05:29.09 | xonic | oh, i like to do it becasue it looks neat |
| 05:29.13 | xonic | heh |
| 05:29.15 | zeeble | heh |
| 05:29.17 | holy_cow | which is fine :) |
| 05:29.19 | dondelelcaro | oi vey |
| 05:29.24 | Tabitha | dondelelcaro: plan to backup of course :) just wondering before I set out to install yet another backport. ;) |
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| 05:29.35 | dondelelcaro | Tabitha: oh... you're isntalling a backport. Dunno then. |
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| 05:29.45 | rxc | anyone? how do i access debian menu from wmaker? |
| 05:29.48 | dondelelcaro | Tabitha: that's totally dependent upon who actually did the backport. |
| 05:29.56 | josh_ | #flood |
| 05:29.59 | josh_ | ? |
| 05:30.07 | vineet | Tabitha: if the package name is the same, installing a greater version will remove the old version |
| 05:30.18 | Tabitha | vineet: I don't think the package name is the same |
| 05:30.27 | zeeble | rxc: right click? |
| 05:30.39 | digress | dondelelcaro, ah, it sys I have broken packages |
| 05:30.52 | digress | E: sorry, broken packages |
| 05:30.58 | digress | is that something I need to fix first? |
| 05:31.03 | rxc | right click has no debian menu.. i dont know why |
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| 05:31.05 | vineet | Tabitha: then check the package metadata; it may say that it conflicts or replaces the old one, or it may be possible to install both side-by-side |
| 05:31.06 | josh_ | i just downloaded an ati driver but i am new to linux and have no idea how to install it. can anyone help? |
| 05:31.23 | ireverentReveren | what is the proper startup script to put dhcpd in? |
| 05:31.24 | xonic | does anyone here have an ipod shuffle? |
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| 05:31.29 | Tabitha | ~tell josh_ about ati |
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| 05:31.43 | vineet | ireverentReveren: see /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:31.51 | dondelelcaro | ireverentReveren: dhcpd installs it's own init script. |
| 05:32.04 | dondelelcaro | ireverentReveren: if you're talking about just dhcp, man 5 interfaces; |
| 05:32.09 | vineet | ireverentReveren: sorry, I misread that; I thought you were talking about a dhcp client |
| 05:32.26 | ireverentReveren | dondelelcaro thank you for the helpful reply. I am looking to make sure the server starts when the comp starts |
| 05:32.40 | ireverentReveren | vineet understandable |
| 05:32.51 | zeeble | ireverentReveren: man update-rc.d too. you can add stuff with that. |
| 05:32.53 | dondelelcaro | ireverentReveren: that's why you install the dhcp3-server; package which includes the init script to do exactly that. |
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| 05:33.36 | ireverentReveren | dondelelcaro hmm i apt-got dhcpd ... is that an alias or did i install the wrong thing? |
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| 05:34.04 | digress | so, how can I fix these "broken packages" error? |
| 05:34.08 | dondelelcaro | ireverentReveren: that's probably the v2 server. You almost definetly want to be running the v3 one |
| 05:34.18 | vineet | afaik there's no dhcpd package |
| 05:34.20 | dondelelcaro | digress: paste the full output of the apt-get run into #flood, or use the paster bot |
| 05:34.39 | ireverentReveren | dondelelcaro how easy would it be to upgrade? apt-get install dhcp3-server? |
| 05:34.45 | vineet | there's a dhcp; that's probably what you got |
| 05:34.52 | ireverentReveren | vineet it installed something.... |
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| 05:34.59 | dondelelcaro | vineet: there used to be one, iirc. |
| 05:35.06 | ireverentReveren | vineet, no it is a server, because i have it running and working |
| 05:35.07 | vineet | dpkg -l dhcp\* |
| 05:35.08 | dpkg | No packages found matching dhcp\* |
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| 05:35.27 | dondelelcaro | !info dhcpd bo |
| 05:35.35 | digress | dondelelcaro, it's there |
| 05:35.36 | dpkg | dhcpd: (DHCP automatic IP address assignment), section net, is extra. Version: 0.5.14-2 (bo), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 92 kB |
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| 05:35.49 | Tabitha | mysql-server-4.1 |
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| 05:35.58 | vineet | so there is |
| 05:36.00 | Tabitha | so I guess if I install they'll coexist. |
| 05:36.15 | dondelelcaro | Tabitha: probably, yeah... |
| 05:36.24 | vineet | it looks like dhcp provides dhcpd |
| 05:36.28 | dondelelcaro | Tabitha: someone should have a backport of the one from unstable which will actually upgrade it |
| 05:36.33 | vineet | that must be what ireverentReveren got |
| 05:36.47 | Tabitha | dondelelcaro: oh I'd want the one from testing |
| 05:36.53 | ireverentReveren | yeah, well it seems to be working |
| 05:37.00 | ireverentReveren | thanks guys |
| 05:37.01 | dondelelcaro | digress: have you run apt-get update; recently? |
| 05:37.04 | ireverentReveren | worked like a charm |
| 05:37.10 | dondelelcaro | digress: you're running sarge, right? |
| 05:37.11 | digress | dondelelcaro, twice, just now |
| 05:37.13 | xonic | which tree is more cutting edge (risque): testing or unstable? |
| 05:37.18 | vineet | I installed mysql-server-4.1 on a machine at work and it replaced mysql-server (4.0.x) |
| 05:37.18 | Tabitha | oh hmmm... 4.0.23 is testing.. not 4.1 |
| 05:37.19 | dondelelcaro | xonic: unstable |
| 05:37.21 | digress | stable? |
| 05:37.24 | Borgon | Hey |
| 05:37.24 | Borgon | How does a install go if someone has 2 harddrives? I got a small 2u server and am not sure if it has raid or not.. will it tell me? |
| 05:37.26 | digress | I think I'm running stable |
| 05:37.30 | dondelelcaro | oh |
| 05:37.51 | dondelelcaro | digress: check /etc/debian_version |
| 05:37.52 | cafuego | xonic: experimental |
| 05:37.59 | xonic | i dunno why it's called unstable, cuz it runs better then winxp ever did |
| 05:38.00 | dondelelcaro | Borgon: it'll work fine, typically. |
| 05:38.05 | dondelelcaro | !unstable |
| 05:38.05 | dpkg | somebody said unstable was the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. See testing. see sid |
| 05:38.12 | cafuego | xonic: it's more efficient on your bandwidth to have cron delete a random file every night, though. |
| 05:38.21 | Tabitha | oh never mind... mysql-server-4.1 is in testing |
| 05:38.22 | xonic | ? |
| 05:38.26 | Tabitha | ... I wonder how that works? |
| 05:38.40 | xonic | cron deleted random files in the unstable tree? |
| 05:38.42 | Tabitha | I guess you've got options ;) |
| 05:38.43 | dondelelcaro | Tabitha: no idea |
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| 05:38.48 | rxc | zeeble, right click? |
| 05:39.01 | digress | dondelelcaro, 3.0 |
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| 05:39.07 | dondelelcaro | digress: ok, that's stable |
| 05:39.08 | Tabitha | alas, I'm forced to stick with it for now :D |
| 05:39.13 | Borgon | How does a install go if someone has 2 harddrives? I got a small 2u server and am not sure if it has raid or not.. will it tell me? |
| 05:39.13 | Borgon | dondelelcaro, yes but will it detect it or do i have to select it? |
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| 05:39.25 | vineet | mysql's really good for certain applications |
| 05:39.32 | Borgon | dondelelcaro, Do you recommend the auto partition of debian or usually just make everything under /. |
| 05:39.38 | vineet | not perfect for everything, but what is? |
| 05:39.48 | cafuego | Borgon: Depends. If it's got decent hardware raid it will detect it, if it has software raid you'll need to tell the installer about it. |
| 05:39.49 | Lee__ | Borgon: if it's software RAID, cat /proc/mdstat |
| 05:39.50 | dondelelcaro | digress: that's in stable too... apt-cache show libxmltok1; should sho it. |
| 05:40.01 | xonic | Borgon: i made separate partitions for /usr /var and /home |
| 05:40.02 | cafuego | Borgon: The installer supports setting up sw raid1 just fine, btw. |
| 05:40.05 | Borgon | How much swap would be good for a 2x80GB hd .. dual p3 1ghz and 2GB ram? |
| 05:40.12 | cafuego | Borgon: 1GB |
| 05:40.17 | zeeble | rxc: when you right click in WMaker, you get the menu. one of them should be "Debian" |
| 05:40.20 | chealer | I removed a configuration file manually, purged the package then reinstalled it to get the default back, but that doesn't work. How can I make apt reinstall the default file? |
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| 05:41.24 | digress | dondelelcaro, doesn't show anything |
| 05:41.25 | Borgon | cafuego, thanks |
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| 05:42.17 | totzilla | does the basic install from the installer support graphic login or do i need more packages? |
| 05:42.20 | vineet | chealer: it should do that when installing a purged package. Which package was it? |
| 05:42.25 | Borgon | cafuego, but will it show sda1 as 180GB since i got 2x80ides or have 2 separate hds? |
| 05:42.32 | digress | I suppose that means that I just don't have it at all |
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| 05:42.38 | chealer | vineet: samba for /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 05:42.41 | digress | dondelelcaro, can I download it, install it manually? |
| 05:43.20 | xonic | totzilla: i use gdm (i think that's the gnome login manager) |
| 05:43.42 | totzilla | k thanks xonic |
| 05:43.48 | zeeble | totzilla: basic install with how many CDs? If you install X and use a display manager like gdm/kdm/xdm, it will give you a "graphical login' |
| 05:43.49 | rxc | zeeble: yeah.. i expected that... it used to be there.. but i reinstalled debian.. and it's now gone.. there is no debian menu.. i am using sarge |
| 05:43.51 | chealer | totzilla: it does if you choose desktop environment |
| 05:44.11 | xonic | gdm is pretty sweet imho.. it looks pretty skukem |
| 05:44.11 | zeeble | rxc: strange. I got Debian in my menu alright. |
| 05:44.19 | zeeble | skukem? |
| 05:44.25 | xonic | err, cool |
| 05:44.41 | totzilla | i thought i might be able to do startx or init 5 |
| 05:44.44 | zeeble | ok |
| 05:44.53 | vineet | chealer: did you purge samba-common? |
| 05:45.06 | zeeble | totzilla: you could do startx yeah. if you dont want to run the *dm |
| 05:45.16 | rxc | zeeble: i tried to remove my ~/GNUStep dir... no use |
| 05:45.16 | zeeble | which is IMO a better deal. :p |
| 05:45.19 | xonic | sorry.. hehe, skukem is a western canadian word (BC / Alberta), means 'cool' / 'neat' et al. |
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| 05:45.27 | zeeble | xonic: heh, ok. |
| 05:45.35 | zeeble | xonic: around sechelt? |
| 05:45.42 | xonic | sechelt? |
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| 05:45.47 | vineet | totzilla: runlevels 2-5 are all identical on a default debian install |
| 05:46.02 | vineet | running ?dm in runlevel 5 only is a redhatism |
| 05:46.11 | edward_ | morning #debian |
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| 05:46.18 | xonic | zeeble |
| 05:46.39 | zeeble | xonic: no. i was wondering what part of BC you meant.. i've a couple friends down at Sechelt. |
| 05:46.40 | xonic | zeeble: is sechelt a town / area? |
| 05:46.44 | dud | i usually fix up runlevel 2 to be non-gui though |
| 05:46.46 | zeeble | xonic: yes. it is. |
| 05:46.48 | totzilla | sorry vineet , i am new to debian and right now i only have text console |
| 05:47.03 | zeeble | xonic: 3-4 hours by ferry from vancouver. |
| 05:47.05 | xonic | oh, no, i'm up in Prince George (it's like, the arm-pit of BC, nothing but pulp mills up here) |
| 05:47.13 | vineet | totzilla: no need to apologize; I hope I didn't sound rude -- just trying to inform |
| 05:47.20 | totzilla | :) |
| 05:47.30 | vineet | totzilla: do you have gdm installed? |
| 05:47.36 | xonic | vineet: redhatism :) lol |
| 05:47.38 | totzilla | my dad sold paper processing chemicals and i know what pulp smells like |
| 05:47.58 | totzilla | vineet: evidently not |
| 05:48.05 | xonic | yeah, it stinks like hell, i can't smell it anymore because i've lived here so long all the PCB's have given me superpowers :D |
| 05:48.16 | totzilla | lol @ xonic |
| 05:48.23 | vineet | sudo aptitude install gdm should do it |
| 05:48.23 | alfTx | Hi all, just joined the 'debian club' and installed sarge a few days ago. install gave command name to run if I should ever need to 're-enter' the install process for some reason. WELL.. i want to change some video information and I didn't write down the command name to run... (dumb.. dumb.. dumbbb..) Anyway.. does anyone know what it is? TIA mike |
| 05:48.33 | chealer | vineet: yay! reinstalling samba-common fixed it. I guess that was too easy to ask :) |
| 05:48.56 | xonic | so i just upgraded my distro, i'm gonna do a reboot.. bbiab |
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| 05:50.29 | valdyn | alfTx: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 05:50.40 | swerrr | rxc: umm |
| 05:51.00 | alfTx | valdyn: thanks.. |
| 05:51.12 | jordo23 | What's the linux command to remove a directory with the containg dirs and files? |
| 05:51.28 | cafuego | jordo23: man rm |
| 05:51.36 | rxc | so any ways i can make my debian menu reappear in wmaker? |
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| 05:52.31 | cadu | hey |
| 05:52.35 | Buuyo^ | If I'm running kernel-image-2.6.10-1-686, the kernel headers I should be using for libc6-dev in unstable are those headers that glibc were compiled with, right? |
| 05:52.57 | digress | how can I install a package I've downloaded manually |
| 05:53.03 | xonic | the volume control always sets my volume (PCM volume) to zero.. does anyone know why / how i can get it to save the volume settings? |
| 05:53.08 | Buuyo^ | digress, dpkg -i |
| 05:53.10 | cadu | i'm trying to install debian on this machine , amd k6-2 450mhz , 64mb ram and a AHA 1522A scsi card...is it possible using Debian Stable (3.0r1) CD ? |
| 05:53.14 | digress | thank you |
| 05:54.03 | cadu | i'm trying bootflavor vanilla but upon aha152x init it says that some params (possibly irq , it says) could be wrong , but i've already checked , the card is @ 0x340 / irq 11 / scsiID 7 |
| 05:54.33 | alfTx | jordo23: rm -drf directoryname/ |
| 05:54.48 | totzilla | does the netinstall use jigdo, i get eth0 interrupt dropped lots |
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| 05:55.02 | valdyn | Buuyo^: you dont use kernel-headers for glibc, you use linux-kernel-headers |
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| 05:56.01 | Buuyo^ | valdyn, Ok. I was a bit concerned because I wasn't using the default kernel. ^^; |
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| 05:56.19 | Buuyo^ | And here it was fetching 2.5.99 or something. :) |
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| 05:56.43 | valdyn | Buuyo^: i understand, but your kernels headers are for kernel-development, linux-kernel-headers is for userspace development, like glibc |
| 05:56.50 | Buuyo^ | ok |
| 05:57.11 | Buuyo^ | Thanks. |
| 05:57.23 | valdyn | Buuyo^: first is in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/include, second is in /usr/include/linux |
| 05:57.25 | alfTx | is anyone using bdc for virus checking in sarge? it installs FINE but when i run it, i get initialization error on one of it's lib files. have edited ld.so.config and re-run ldconfig but that didn't help either.. Anyone have a solution? Thanks again.. mike |
| 05:58.22 | common | works find on unstable her |
| 05:58.25 | common | e |
| 05:58.26 | vineet | alfTx: try running ldd to get more info about the missing library |
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| 05:59.00 | alfTx | uumm.. forgot about that... syntax = ldd bdc? |
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| 06:01.03 | vineet | yes, generally its ldd /path/to/binary/or/library (but I don't know anything about bdc) |
| 06:01.14 | vineet | s/its/it's/ |
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| 06:03.17 | alfTx | vineet: i just used ldd and it didn't make any mention of the libfn.so that doesn't initialize correctly... This is a bummer because I used bdc for a long time on my Mandrake box and it is so good.. hate have to muck with something that has always worked in the past .. :-( |
| 06:03.41 | vineet | try ldd on libfn.so |
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| 06:04.31 | sanxiyn | Any idea why http://snapshot.debian.net/package/libpst is removed? |
| 06:05.01 | digress | !info phpnuke |
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| 06:07.21 | xonic | does anyone know where gnome-volume-control's startup or configuration script is located? |
| 06:07.28 | xonic | it always resets my volume to zero |
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| 06:07.53 | jm_ | maybe #gnome will know |
| 06:08.07 | jm_ | also try their IRC server |
| 06:08.20 | xonic | thnx |
| 06:08.24 | alfTx | vineet: got it.. ldd found a missing lib file.. I'm in the middle of getting all my development packages installed and must have missed this one... sure hope this is the all the problem... Again.. thanx a BUNCH.. Mike.. |
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| 06:12.05 | CF-TheMachine | Hey guys I'm looking for some general install advice |
| 06:12.22 | CF-TheMachine | I'm running mandrake right now, and I'm wondering what the best procedure for installing debian is |
| 06:12.35 | CF-TheMachine | I have the 7 ISO's downloaded and burned |
| 06:12.48 | Phated | Well, step one would have been to burn CD 1. |
| 06:13.13 | CF-TheMachine | they are all burned :) |
| 06:13.23 | Phated | Step two would have been to boot cd 1. |
| 06:13.50 | CF-TheMachine | on the online documentation (i'm not sure how old it was) it made it sound like there are two ways |
| 06:14.01 | CF-TheMachine | 1. Boot from the cd |
| 06:14.04 | Phated | CF-TheMachine: /msg dpkg d-i. The ones you have are of an older release. |
| 06:14.42 | vineet | CF-TheMachine: it will still work, but the new installer is much better |
| 06:14.43 | jm_ | heh |
| 06:15.02 | sanxiyn | CF-TheMachine: Sarge is 15 CDs. |
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| 06:15.31 | Phated | Which is how you know he has woody. |
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| 06:15.42 | CF-TheMachine | oops, i accidentally closed IRC |
| 06:15.53 | CF-TheMachine | ok, when i msged dpkg he didn't know what i was talking about |
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| 06:16.06 | vineet | CF-TheMachine: looks like you're on speakeasy dsl -- just grab the debian-installer netinst image and do a network install |
| 06:16.23 | vineet | http://lists.debian.org/ |
| 06:16.23 | vineet | http://barrapunto.com/comments.pl?sid=40781&op=& |
| 06:16.25 | vineet | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status |
| 06:16.25 | vineet | http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianInstaller |
| 06:16.33 | CF-TheMachine | wait, why is my debian so old? |
| 06:16.34 | Phated | CF-TheMachine: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 06:16.39 | CF-TheMachine | i got it off the website a couple months ago |
| 06:16.47 | sanxiyn | CF-TheMachine: Because you downloaded the old version :-) |
| 06:16.49 | Phated | And... maybe read about Debian releases a little. |
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| 06:17.00 | edward_ | how can I tell apt not to upgrade my own created postfix |
| 06:17.01 | vineet | sanxiyn: which, to be fair, is the latest release |
| 06:17.06 | sanxiyn | vineet: Indeed. |
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| 06:17.22 | vineet | any day now ... |
| 06:17.45 | CF-TheMachine | sanxiyn, how can you tell what version i downloaded? |
| 06:17.54 | sanxiyn | CF-TheMachine: You said you burned 7 CDs. |
| 06:17.58 | CF-TheMachine | oh |
| 06:18.00 | CF-TheMachine | well then :) |
| 06:18.02 | deucehaus | is it possible to install only the spreadsheet portion of openoffice? |
| 06:18.04 | jm_ | edward_: put it on hold |
| 06:18.05 | orafu | [Heise] "HanseNet erffnet Kundencenter in Rostock" -> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/56094 |
| 06:18.08 | sanxiyn | CF-TheMachine: To-be-released version has 15 [...] CDs, of course you don't need all of them. |
| 06:18.18 | jm_ | deucehaus: no |
| 06:18.19 | CF-TheMachine | sanxiyn, is it stable? |
| 06:18.24 | sanxiyn | Oh. |
| 06:19.04 | vineet | http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso |
| 06:19.07 | vineet | try that one |
| 06:19.11 | deucehaus | jm_ thanks, too bad |
| 06:19.11 | Phated | Stable being, largely, relative. |
| 06:19.45 | sanxiyn | CF-TheMachine: It is stable, but Debian doesn't call it stable. |
| 06:19.50 | sanxiyn | Go figure. |
| 06:20.02 | Phated | It -isn't- stable, not my Debian's definitions. |
| 06:20.41 | xonic | is this bad: [drm:radeon_cp_init] *ERROR* radeon_cp_init called without lock held [drm:radeon_unlock] *ERROR* Process 2251 using kernel context 0 |
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| 06:20.54 | CF-TheMachine | how hard is running this install compared to a mandrake install? |
| 06:21.00 | CF-TheMachine | mandrake detected all my hardware and everything |
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| 06:21.09 | sanxiyn | CF-TheMachine: Not very different. |
| 06:21.14 | vineet | the new debian installer will do the same |
| 06:21.19 | sanxiyn | xonic: Sure looks bad. |
| 06:21.25 | CF-TheMachine | best news ive heard in a long time, thanks |
| 06:21.31 | vineet | it's not as pretty, with all the points and clicks |
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| 06:21.34 | jim | what document(s) are available to show how to use raid with a promise raid controller? |
| 06:21.35 | jm_ | CF-TheMachine: the one you downlaoded has no hardware auto-detection |
| 06:21.49 | xonic | sanxiyn: yep.. i agree :D |
| 06:21.50 | CF-TheMachine | jm_;ouch, but the new one does |
| 06:22.11 | vineet | CF-TheMachine: right |
| 06:22.12 | jm_ | CF-TheMachine: yes, although it's not hard to add required kernel modules after you're up and running, so go with either of them |
| 06:22.18 | sanxiyn | Argh. |
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| 06:22.45 | rucas_ | hey, is there any way to do a net install of debian from within another distro and remove the old distro? my cdrom drive is dead and i have no floppy and i would like to install debian over my current distro... i've seen a way to do it with freebsd, just not sure how to do it with linux |
| 06:22.53 | Phated | Oh, pft, hardware detection. |
| 06:22.55 | vineet | especially if you have a running mandrake system; you can make note of what modules you're using now and select the same set |
| 06:22.55 | jm_ | rucas_: yes, read install guide |
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| 06:23.30 | scarynetworkguy | !rube goldberg install |
| 06:23.30 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 06:23.39 | sanxiyn | rucas_: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch02s02.html#id2527310 |
| 06:23.51 | sanxiyn | 2.2.6. Un*x or GNU system: If you are running another Unix-like system, you could use it to install Debian GNU/Linux without using the debian-installer described in the rest of the manual. |
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| 06:24.20 | sanxiyn | (using debootstrap, that is.) |
| 06:24.39 | jim | I'm trying to help someone using debian sid and a Promise TX2 raid card... he says 2.6.10 sees the card and the (formatted, partitioned) array, but when he tries to mount, it shows the wrong size... |
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| 06:25.17 | CF-TheMachine | can you speed up a computer running kde considerably by recompiling everything specific to the machine? |
| 06:25.32 | lostusername | high gang! I have a debian/unstable installed on a spare machine and I want to strip it to bare essentials like just after install, know a way to do that without reinstalling |
| 06:25.34 | scarynetworkguy | CF-TheMachine: No not really. |
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| 06:25.55 | scarynetworkguy | lostusername: deborphan and debfoster are your friends. |
| 06:26.17 | erikm | for some reason my wireless card refuses to see my access point. I'm using a Lucent Orinoco Gold with 2.6.9. The modules seem to load fine when I insert the card, and I can see the access point with kismet, but for whatever reason it won't connect |
| 06:26.17 | lostusername | hmm how ? |
| 06:26.44 | Phated | How about actually -using- one of them? |
| 06:26.45 | cafuego | erikm: Fix your interfaces (5) file. |
| 06:26.55 | lostusername | like I want to strip everything down to the base system |
| 06:27.04 | scarynetworkguy | That's just crazy eough to work. |
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| 06:27.46 | usr010 | how do u adress some1 in irc? like some1 always does when there speaking to me |
| 06:27.56 | sanxiyn | usr010: ? |
| 06:28.09 | zeeble | usr010: you just type their nickname and then the message. |
| 06:28.20 | usr010 | sanxiyn: |
| 06:28.29 | sanxiyn | usr010: Yes, like that. |
| 06:28.31 | usr010 | no : |
| 06:28.38 | usr010 | or : |
| 06:28.54 | subvertir | usr010, or just type the first few characters and hit tab |
| 06:28.54 | subvertir | it's magic |
| 06:28.54 | subvertir | MAGIC |
| 06:28.55 | drac | ? |
| 06:29.04 | cafuego | !magic subvertir |
| 06:29.11 | usr010 | subvertir: wow |
| 06:29.15 | erikm | cafuego: I was using /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts, both of which simply provide info for iwconfig |
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| 06:29.36 | erikm | the main problem that I can see is that 'iwconfig eth1 channel 6' is throwing an error |
| 06:29.45 | scarynetworkguy | lostusername: Right and those two tools will help you to do that. |
| 06:29.46 | erikm | which doesn't make sense, because I should be able to change the channel on this card |
| 06:29.54 | rxc | i still can't get my debian menu back in window maker.. can anyone help? |
| 06:30.11 | cafuego | !magic subvertir |
| 06:30.16 | cafuego | woo |
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| 06:30.33 | sanxiyn | !magic me |
| 06:30.37 | sanxiyn | Good. |
| 06:30.40 | totzilla | lol |
| 06:30.56 | usr010 | usr010: What once was lost has been found |
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| 06:31.33 | zeeble | anyone know howto use new metacity themes in gnome? i untarred a few to ~/.themes and even copied them to /usr/share/themes but they dont show up in the gnome theme manager :/ i just get the list of default ones |
| 06:31.53 | usr010 | <-- like a mem chip needs to be reflashed ocasionally |
| 06:32.34 | usr010 | yeah the dir tree and where things are i dont understand iether |
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| 06:33.20 | rxc | and, i apt-getted some GNUStep Apps... how can i run them from wmaker? is there a menu for that? |
| 06:33.23 | sanxiyn | (She dwelt among the untrodden ways beside the springs of Dove...) |
| 06:33.56 | starfish | how do i ask the bot something? |
| 06:34.20 | subvertir | starfish, ask the bot |
| 06:34.33 | scarynetworkguy | starfish: /msg dpkg whateveryouwanttoaskhim. |
| 06:34.39 | sanxiyn | dpkg, how do I ask you something? |
| 06:34.40 | dpkg | sanxiyn: bugger all, i dunno |
| 06:34.48 | starfish | thank you |
| 06:34.58 | subvertir | dpkg, help |
| 06:35.15 | zeeble | !help |
| 06:36.03 | starfish | i need something called unrar |
| 06:36.30 | jm_ | /msg dpkg search |
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| 06:37.00 | sanxiyn | !info unrar |
| 06:37.06 | dpkg | unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 88 kB |
| 06:37.25 | sanxiyn | !info unrar-nonfree |
| 06:37.27 | stew | !info unrar-nonfree |
| 06:37.27 | dpkg | unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 177 kB |
| 06:37.33 | sanxiyn | Yeah, download that. |
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| 06:39.52 | edward_ | jm_, how do I put a .deb on hold...?? |
| 06:40.47 | sanxiyn | edward_: With frontends. |
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| 06:41.20 | jm_ | edward_: /msg dpkg hold |
| 06:41.38 | usr010 | ask the magic chonche! heh |
| 06:41.38 | lostusername | scarynetworkguy: thanks for the info, trying out debfoster |
| 06:41.56 | scarynetworkguy | lostusername: NP |
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| 06:42.23 | lostusername | also, is there a way to remove entire tasks like "desktop environments" |
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| 06:42.55 | cat | sup people, |
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| 06:44.12 | jm_ | lostusername: you can remove the task tiself, but it probably won't do anything useful |
| 06:44.24 | starfish | unrar-nonfree package where do i get this package? |
| 06:44.40 | cat | starfish: try apt-cache search package |
| 06:45.50 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.57 | sanxiyn | starfish: With apt-get. |
| 06:46.07 | sanxiyn | (Or other frontends) |
| 06:46.25 | cat | with aptitude or tasksel, dselect |
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| 06:47.39 | starfish | apt-cache search unrar-nonfree |
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| 06:48.09 | cat | that's what i told him |
| 06:48.09 | starfish | is that the right command line? |
| 06:48.13 | Ivoss | where is kernel source for amd64 ? |
| 06:48.33 | lostusername | jm_: yeah I see that... must go through the long debfoster prompts... |
| 06:48.37 | cat | Ivoss: for what? |
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| 06:49.21 | jm_ | lostusername: yes, alternatively you could remove one of the core libraries it installed, that will take out a lot of stuff |
| 06:49.46 | inviso_ | dondelelcaro: thanks for the help earlier. I've got the privs fixed and everything seems to work fine. Sorry if I was a bit hostile :) |
| 06:49.50 | sanxiyn | Like: |
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| 06:49.52 | sanxiyn | !remove kde |
| 06:49.52 | dpkg | i guess remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 06:50.19 | lostusername | oh btw how to get my username back, I forgot my pwd for freenet :p hence the nick |
| 06:50.46 | stew | lostusername: #freenode |
| 06:50.54 | lostusername | ah thanks |
| 06:51.05 | usr010 | i have a p4 but running i386? |
| 06:51.13 | dabreegster | A friend of mine built me a new computer for my birthday. A Pentium 3 processor, 500Mhz. Right now I've got Sarge with a 2.6.7 kernel on a Pentium 1 133Mhz box. Could I just pop the HD in the new machine and expect it to work? Or would I have to recompile the kernel or totally reinstall the OS? |
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| 06:51.39 | Xsquared | hi, im not sure if im in the right place, but Unrealircd couldn't help me yesterday, im gonna try again today though. i have a problem with my irc server. SSL isn't working and is displaying this error message... |
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| 06:51.40 | Xsquared | --- Connection failed. Error: [336130315] error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number |
| 06:51.41 | Xsquared | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.48 | Xsquared | anyone have any ideas? |
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| 06:53.21 | scarynetworkguy | dabreegster: Depends on what you have done wrt drivers and the kernel. Odds are you woule have to recompile. |
| 06:53.34 | dabreegster | alright scarynetworkguy |
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| 06:54.07 | dabreegster | Another question. Is it possible to run an X server in the background all the time without a window manager and then when I launch GUI apps from the console they just start using X? |
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| 06:54.38 | dabreegster | Basically I'm trying to save memory/cycles, be able to work in the console, and still be able to use some GUI apps |
| 06:55.04 | Xsquared | dabreegster: i think u can't do that |
| 06:55.06 | dabreegster | I already found a trick to make gdm run a program without a wm, but it's not really what I was thinking of |
| 06:55.25 | dabreegster | oh well |
| 06:55.29 | rohn | hi all |
| 06:56.12 | rohn | i m new debian user and wish to set it up as a router and i've sarge 2.4-27 kernel |
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| 06:56.47 | rohn | the problem is i cant forward my packets to a T1 router which is on the same local subnet |
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| 06:57.04 | stew | dabreegster: yeah you can start x, then switch to a console and export DISPLAY=:0; xterm& or whatever you wish to start |
| 06:57.12 | usr010 | road runner |
| 06:57.13 | rohn | i've /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 set up |
| 06:57.24 | dabreegster | stew: cool, thanks |
| 06:57.39 | rohn | still cant do it any help will be appreciated from the bottom of my heart |
| 06:57.45 | stew | dabreegster: if you apt-get install a debian -i386 kernel you can expect to be able to pop the hd in another machine and have it work |
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| 06:58.32 | Maxzorin123 | I need help, what is the best FOSS Office suite / MS word replacement? |
| 06:58.41 | dabreegster | stew: my 2.6.7 kernel was from the package kernel-images-2.6.7 |
| 06:58.47 | Defenestrator | OpenOffice.org or KOffice, probably |
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| 06:59.02 | subvertir | AbiWord is good as a Word replacement |
| 06:59.02 | Maxzorin123 | which one has best MS office compatibility? |
| 06:59.14 | Ekdikeo_ | umm.. my root partition just magically mounted itself read-only for no obvious reason. how do i fix? |
| 06:59.30 | Maxzorin123 | I have heard good things about ABI, does it have good M$ compatibility? |
| 06:59.39 | subvertir | Ekdikeo_, it did that because there are errors on it... fsck |
| 06:59.50 | subvertir | Maxzorin123 I don't know |
| 06:59.57 | Ekdikeo_ | and why would it do this for no apparently obvious reason after 25 days of uptime? |
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| 07:00.11 | cadu | yay i'm back! |
| 07:00.13 | cadu | screen r0x! |
| 07:00.15 | alfTx | i used this look in mandrake to perform internet actions only when the ppp interface was active but it isn't working in sarge. (while [ -d /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/ppp0 ]) i've searched /proc with ppp active and verified ppp0 with ifconfig ... where in the debian /proc can i find this info on the network interfaces? thanks mike.. |
| 07:00.19 | subvertir | Ekdikeo_, because the filesystem contains errors, like I just said |
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| 07:00.35 | Ekdikeo_ | subvertir: fsck a running root? |
| 07:00.43 | subvertir | a read-only running root |
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| 07:01.27 | usr010 | how do i take a screen shot |
| 07:01.28 | dabreegster | Quick question. How would I start up an X server that doesn't actually launch anything? startx runs KDE and gdm is a login manager |
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| 07:01.49 | subvertir | rm -f ~/.xinitrc ~/.Xsession |
| 07:02.01 | Ekdikeo_ | last time i did an fsck on a live partition, fsck erased everything on the drive and let me go. heh. |
| 07:02.05 | fertokra | anyone here that is on the apt (deity@lists.debian.org) mailing list ? |
| 07:02.07 | bonez39 | if I can't get a backport version of php4 to install, owing to unmet dependencies...what are the risks of just installing without apt-get? |
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| 07:02.13 | dabreegster | didnt exist subvertir |
| 07:02.22 | timo | usr010, e.g. xwd |
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| 07:02.47 | subvertir | Ekdikeo_, I've never heard of fsck erasing everything on a partition before |
| 07:02.52 | idnar | it's ~/.xsession not ~/.Xsession |
| 07:02.56 | subvertir | sorry |
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| 07:03.26 | decklin | dabreegster: startx /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator (or whatever. you have to have at least one client to do it that way) |
| 07:03.48 | dabreegster | decklin: ok |
| 07:03.57 | usr010 | holly shnikes what happened |
| 07:04.02 | bucky | afiak you don't run fsck on a mount partition.. unless that changed recently |
| 07:04.11 | rohn | looks like i m not ready for it, anyways thanx all of u for atleast hearing it bye |
| 07:04.13 | Ekdikeo_ | /dev/hda3: recovering journal .. /dev/hda3 contains a file system with errors, check forced. .. /dev/hda3: No errors found. |
| 07:04.45 | Ekdikeo_ | .. /dev/hda3: *** REBOOT LINUX *** |
| 07:05.22 | bonez39 | how do I find out whether a bug has been reported, or to report one? |
| 07:06.10 | alfTx | my question was stupid.. lets try again. i've tried find /proc ppp0 and did not find it. i also tried it with eth0 and it's not in /proc either. Can anyone tell me where to find info in /proc on active network interfaces? Thanks.. |
| 07:06.17 | timo | bonez39, use querybts or go to http://bugs.debian.org/. to report, use reportbug |
| 07:06.34 | bucky | http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ and do a search |
| 07:06.35 | Ekdikeo_ | mount -o remount / (block device /dev/hda3 is write-protected) |
| 07:06.45 | bonez39 | timo, thank you |
| 07:07.34 | usr010 | venture bro rok |
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| 07:08.33 | Ekdikeo_ | guess i get to reboot. |
| 07:08.49 | digress | I know this channel isn't supporting sunbird or anything, but when I try top publish my calendar o my apache server, I get "405 method not allowed" . . . . any ideas why? |
| 07:08.56 | digress | do I maybe need to enable some settings in apache? |
| 07:09.05 | bucky | Ekdikeo_, use -F to force fsck |
| 07:09.11 | bucky | on shutdown |
| 07:09.29 | Ekdikeo_ | bucky: it did the fsck, and it tells me the only way to get remounted read-write is to reboot |
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| 07:09.46 | bucky | ok |
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| 07:11.07 | Ekdikeo_ | every day i use my computer i get more and more upset by this distribution. the advantages of 'apt-get' are pretty much completely outweighed by that debian vaguely resembles what would happen if you bent Unix over my desk and fucked it in the ass with a harpoon. |
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| 07:13.59 | vortek | Does any one know Why I keep getting a "Kernel Panic - not syncing VFS: unable to mount rootfs on unknown block (3,1) |
| 07:14.16 | vortek | I HAve tried every thing. I tried no modules every thing built in for my harddrive and main board |
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| 07:14.22 | vortek | tried with and with out devfs |
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| 07:14.27 | vortek | tried with out initrd |
| 07:14.34 | vortek | NOthing works |
| 07:14.36 | Smurg | People I really really need help!!!!! My system is doomed now |
| 07:14.38 | jm_ | vortel/msg dpkg norootfs |
| 07:14.41 | vortek | k |
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| 07:15.38 | Smurg | I wanted to move the /usr to a different partition since the current one had no space...i took a backup of the /usr and named it /usr1 |
| 07:15.49 | vortek | hrm I have no old .config cause its a debian install kernel... And Ive tried static already :( I build in every thing for main board and FS and IDE |
| 07:16.10 | Smurg | i made many mistakes i agree..i deleted most of the files in /usr before linking it (using ln-s) |
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| 07:16.33 | Smurg | and i rebooted. and debian said some recovery mode and did something and now everything is gone |
| 07:16.44 | Smurg | there isnt anything in /usr nor /usr1 |
| 07:16.48 | bucky | vortek, you don't have a config-2.x.x in /boot ? |
| 07:17.26 | vortek | oh wait I do for the old install kernel |
| 07:17.30 | drac | Smurg: fresh install whole system. |
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| 07:17.45 | arestheimpaler | anyone having problems with apt-get update ? |
| 07:18.02 | drac | anyone? |
| 07:18.03 | Smurg | drac : I lose all data? Well I would be OK if I can recover the packgages I downlaoded using aptitude |
| 07:18.14 | Maxzorin123 | arestheimpaler |
| 07:18.15 | Smurg | where does aptitude download packages on to |
| 07:18.16 | Maxzorin123 | yeah |
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| 07:18.26 | m0rbid|gone | Smurg: your hdd. |
| 07:18.27 | m0rbid|gone | =) |
| 07:18.28 | bucky | vortek, i'd suggest using that like this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html#s-kernel-debian |
| 07:18.31 | Maxzorin123 | it sometimes says it can't find certain repositories |
| 07:18.32 | Smurg | drac : where does aptitude download to? directory? |
| 07:18.35 | Maxzorin123 | but if you repeat it |
| 07:18.37 | Maxzorin123 | it will find them |
| 07:18.38 | Maxzorin123 | wierd |
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| 07:18.44 | arestheimpaler | hmmm |
| 07:18.55 | drac | Smurg: if you really deleted whole /usr, you have to install again.. |
| 07:19.03 | arestheimpaler | It sometimes doesnt find the contrib non-free |
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| 07:19.15 | decklin | arestheimpaler: /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 07:19.18 | drac | Smurg: /var/cache/apt/ |
| 07:19.21 | vortek | what If Im using a 2.6.10 kernel and my install kernel Is a 2.6.7 ? |
| 07:19.36 | Smurg | drac : thanks, once I backup those how do I install all of em again? |
| 07:19.39 | m0rbid|gone | arestheimpaler: cntrl-c out and do it again right away, usually works, servers might be overloaded at times. |
| 07:19.48 | vortek | will this still work then ? |
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| 07:20.04 | bucky | vortek, it will work but the easiest fool proof way is at that link |
| 07:20.07 | arestheimpaler | I already tried 3 different mirrors, and get the same problem |
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| 07:20.29 | vortek | k |
| 07:20.37 | drac | Smurg: put debian CD into cdrom, and do fresh install? |
| 07:20.49 | m0rbid|gone | I like ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org |
| 07:21.08 | bucky | arestheimpaler, you get errors when you apt-get update ? |
| 07:21.09 | Smurg | drac : Yeah ill do that, but after doing that I would like to install the pkgs i downloaded...how do I install them from the /var/apt/cache after backing it up onto a different partition |
| 07:21.12 | arestheimpaler | yes |
| 07:21.31 | bucky | syntax is wrong |
| 07:21.41 | arestheimpaler | buky, it sometimes says that the mirror couldnt open contrib and non-free folders |
| 07:21.50 | m0rbid|gone | Smurg: dpkg -i |
| 07:22.02 | m0rbid|gone | err |
| 07:22.08 | bucky | arestheimpaler, you runnin sarge ? |
| 07:22.14 | Smurg | m0rbig : So I have to do it forf all the packages Ive downloaded to satisfy dependencies..... |
| 07:22.15 | arestheimpaler | unstable |
| 07:22.17 | m0rbid|gone | Im going back to sleep |
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| 07:22.27 | bucky | deb http://archive.progeny.com/debian/ unstable main contrib |
| 07:22.37 | bucky | arestheimpaler, cut and paste that in |
| 07:22.50 | m0rbid|gone | unstable, with a beta kernel? isnt 2.6.10 still beta? |
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| 07:23.04 | kendrick | anyone here use SANE w/ a scsi scanner with a 2.6 kernel in sarge? ;) |
| 07:23.05 | drac | 2.6.10 is stable.. |
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| 07:23.10 | m0rbid|gone | ahh |
| 07:23.12 | m0rbid|gone | I didnt know |
| 07:23.13 | peterS | sort of |
| 07:23.21 | peterS | depends on your definitions here |
| 07:23.23 | m0rbid|gone | <-- still uses 2.4 =) |
| 07:23.32 | m0rbid|gone | Olds Cool! |
| 07:23.33 | arestheimpaler | Err ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/contrib Packages |
| 07:23.34 | arestheimpaler | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.39 | peterS | 2.6.10 is only in Debian 'unstable', so in that sense it is unstable |
| 07:23.59 | arestheimpaler | abd then more at the end: Failed to fetch ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file |
| 07:24.00 | m0rbid|gone | arestheimpaler: screw the kernel.org mirrors |
| 07:24.31 | decklin | arestheimpaler: you should probably check if the mirror you want to use actually carries non-free and contrib. |
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| 07:24.31 | sussudio | !win Piggy |
| 07:24.31 | dpkg | Congratulations, Piggy! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 07:24.31 | arestheimpaler | same with other mirrors |
| 07:24.31 | arestheimpaler | it used to |
| 07:24.35 | arestheimpaler | I have been running unstable with that mirror for almost a year |
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| 07:25.25 | arestheimpaler | actually: |
| 07:25.27 | bucky | it's not there anymore |
| 07:25.28 | m0rbid|gone | deb http://Debian.YorkU.CA/debian/non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free |
| 07:25.28 | m0rbid|gone | deb http://FTP.NO.Debian.Org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free |
| 07:25.33 | arestheimpaler | Err ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages |
| 07:25.34 | m0rbid|gone | there |
| 07:25.34 | arestheimpaler | Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' |
| 07:25.36 | m0rbid|gone | use those |
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| 07:25.40 | arestheimpaler | ha |
| 07:25.44 | arestheimpaler | I cant even get main |
| 07:26.02 | m0rbid|gone | s/testing/unstable |
| 07:26.11 | bucky | arestheimpaler, you can't even get that with your browser because its' not there |
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| 07:27.46 | Xemacs_ | Is sunday over yet ? |
| 07:27.49 | arestheimpaler | hmm |
| 07:28.01 | arestheimpaler | well, I already found a server that is working (and fast) |
| 07:28.05 | arestheimpaler | thanks everyone |
| 07:28.08 | m0rbid|gone | *gone* sleeping. RQuote: If you lick him.. He will come. |
| 07:28.08 | arestheimpaler | off to sleep |
| 07:29.00 | arun | can any one in here help me to set a prob and the prob is i have installed telugu locale (india) on the system all the english word's have been transalted to telugu but my prob is that i am geting an error message related to keyboard layout and the error message say's that the keyboad layout of the system is not configered properly choose X keyboard layout or gnome layout |
| 07:29.03 | arun | what to do |
| 07:29.23 | drp | Xemacs_, yes |
| 07:29.49 | arun | what could be the problem ? |
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| 07:33.09 | drp | what's the name of the kde file manager |
| 07:33.17 | jm_ | konqueror? |
| 07:33.28 | drp | yeah i think that's it |
| 07:33.30 | drp | thanks |
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| 07:33.54 | drp | actually that's the web browser |
| 07:34.01 | drp | !konqueror |
| 07:34.02 | dpkg | it has been said that konqueror is a great webbrowser, filemanager, viewer et al and is located at http://www.konqueror.org |
| 07:34.07 | drp | ok |
| 07:34.09 | drp | i retort |
| 07:34.20 | bucky | its both |
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| 07:37.49 | digress | where is the apache conf. file by default? |
| 07:38.19 | cat | digress: /etc/apache |
| 07:38.40 | digress | cat, thanks |
| 07:38.45 | cat | np |
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| 07:45.11 | edward_ | jm_, how do I put a .deb on hold...?? |
| 07:45.27 | scarynetworkguy | !tell edward_ about hold |
| 07:45.52 | edward_ | tnx |
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| 07:46.17 | YouCeyE | hello |
| 07:46.47 | YouCeyE | is there any easier way to make a patch apply to the deb source by using apt-get? |
| 07:46.58 | cat | YouCeyE: what do you mean by a patch? |
| 07:47.05 | YouCeyE | i wanted to apply some patches to xchat deb sources |
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| 07:47.27 | YouCeyE | if i do apt-get install xchat.. it will install without the patch |
| 07:47.43 | cat | YouCeyE: try apt-cache search xchat and see if they have the patches |
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| 07:48.22 | cat | put dpkg -i patch.deb |
| 07:48.31 | _rene_ | YouCeyE: apt-get source xchat |
| 07:48.32 | cat | it should extract to the xchat directory |
| 07:48.41 | digress | how can I tell apache to restart under debian? |
| 07:48.44 | _rene_ | YouCeyE: fix change the source. rebuild |
| 07:48.47 | digress | using apachectl? |
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| 07:49.01 | _rene_ | cat: he wants the *source* to patch tthe *source* |
| 07:49.07 | ApEtc | digress: The script in /etc/init.d/ |
| 07:49.08 | cat | digress: /etc/inid.t/apache restart |
| 07:49.15 | digress | cat thank you |
| 07:49.16 | cat | digress: /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 07:49.18 | digress | again :) |
| 07:49.38 | YouCeyE | _rene_, i am doing that now.. |
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| 07:49.49 | YouCeyE | getting source manually. then apply patch. |
| 07:49.59 | Vyrus001 | is there a kde package that is JUST kde and not all the other shit that comes with it ? |
| 07:50.09 | _rene_ | kdebase? |
| 07:50.14 | YouCeyE | i am asking if there is anyway to automate that process? with a command line option |
| 07:50.31 | _rene_ | YouCeyE: no. because that would be stupid |
| 07:51.14 | YouCeyE | :) may be i am asking too much |
| 07:51.49 | cat | maybe u need to read some manuals |
| 07:52.06 | YouCeyE | yes.. |
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| 07:52.28 | YouCeyE | i am a newbie and would like to learn more.. i am now comfortable with debian and kde |
| 07:52.42 | cat | go to debian.org/doc |
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| 07:53.18 | YouCeyE | thanks cat |
| 07:53.25 | cat | np sir |
| 07:53.50 | raz_ | how to log bad kernel boot ? |
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| 07:54.45 | cat | huh? |
| 07:55.32 | YouCeyE | this is not specific to debian but how can i get a host mask on freenode? can i get host mask for free? |
| 07:55.42 | cat | yeah |
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| 07:55.45 | cat | go to #freenode |
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| 07:55.50 | cat | it will look like mines |
| 07:55.55 | YouCeyE | cool |
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| 07:56.57 | usr010 | how do i go about hosting a webpage that every1 can see |
| 07:57.10 | usr010 | dont u need name registering or sumthin |
| 07:57.41 | YouCeyE | usr010, you can start your own apache server |
| 07:58.05 | YouCeyE | and can get some domain name for $10 per year and point to your http server |
| 07:58.08 | cat | usr010: yeah |
| 07:58.14 | usr010 | if i http 127.0.0.1 i get debians appache thingy |
| 07:58.18 | cat | u buy a domain and u run apache on ur linux box |
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| 07:58.21 | samael | hello |
| 07:58.26 | cat | that's ur local host |
| 07:58.38 | cat | u need to put you'r current ip, to it |
| 07:58.41 | usr010 | do i have to get a domain name for u guyz 2 see me |
| 07:58.44 | YouCeyE | cat i joined #freenode but how do i request host mask? |
| 07:58.51 | YouCeyE | i dont see any instructions there |
| 07:58.54 | cat | talk to an ircop read there topic |
| 07:59.04 | cat | usr010: nope |
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| 07:59.10 | cat | u can register a freeone though |
| 07:59.30 | Orcrist | also, if you're hosting it on your home box then you'll need a static IP |
| 07:59.58 | Orcrist | you can get that from most high-speed providers for a few dollars more per month |
| 08:00.02 | raz_ | sry but. i just did a new compil kernel.. but i forgot the "kernel_image" and... it had compiled.. but no .deb were generated ... how can i retreive it easily ? instead of restart the make-kpkg ? ty =) |
| 08:00.23 | cat | usr010: go here http://www.no-ip.com/ and register a free domain |
| 08:00.38 | cat | raz_: get a compile kernel |
| 08:00.38 | usr010 | im broadband |
| 08:00.45 | usr010 | ip changes seldom |
| 08:00.48 | Orcrist | raz you coudln't have used make-kpkg without having kernel-image... it's part of that package |
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| 08:01.13 | drac | usr010: get dynamic dns from www.dyndns.org and do: apt-get install ddclient |
| 08:01.19 | Orcrist | usr010, perhaps, but unless you want to reregister your new IP every time it happens then wait 3 days for DNS to repropogate, get a static IP |
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| 08:01.23 | drac | usr010: it will automatically update your IP to dyndns.org |
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| 08:01.28 | _rene_ | Orcrist: bullshit. kernel-package != kernel-image-* |
| 08:01.42 | Orcrist | erm, sorry |
| 08:01.42 | raz_ | cat sry? dont understood :/ |
| 08:01.47 | Orcrist | I meant kernel-package |
| 08:02.00 | Orcrist | make-kpkg is in kernel-package |
| 08:02.05 | Orcrist | so if you used it, you already have it |
| 08:02.12 | cat | correct, |
| 08:02.19 | cat | brb gonna go for a smoke |
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| 08:02.41 | raz_ | k |
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| 08:03.20 | raz_ | _rene_, xcuse me.. i just finish my new kernel compile.. but i forget to put "kernel_image" |
| 08:03.30 | raz_ | mlust i restart since the beginning ? |
| 08:03.41 | raz_ | must* |
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| 08:06.06 | raz_ | its ok.. i restart.. and it did in few secondes . ty as well. |
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| 08:08.14 | vortek | thanxs that link helped :) |
| 08:08.47 | vortek | Ok now I got the kernel working with the bilt in amtel driver and the firmware it told me to for my usb wireless. The device is seen and shows up in lsusb and lsmod |
| 08:09.02 | vortek | But I can't assign a wlan0 or eth0 or eth1 or any thing to it. |
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| 08:09.18 | vortek | I've read all the guides.. They just give you syntax for /etc/network/interfaces. |
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| 08:09.24 | vortek | Any ideas ? |
| 08:09.32 | lars | How do i make a cow printout with apt-get i cant remember the cmd its sooo funny |
| 08:09.33 | lars | :P |
| 08:09.45 | cat | apt-get install moo lars ? |
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| 08:10.04 | lars | quit |
| 08:10.06 | drac | apt-get moo |
| 08:10.20 | vortek | Im also using wireless-tools |
| 08:10.26 | vortek | lars : hehe |
| 08:10.39 | cyberyo | io |
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| 08:10.58 | lars | cat: packet not found |
| 08:10.59 | lars | :( |
| 08:11.12 | drac | repeat: apt-get moo |
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| 08:11.18 | drac | no install there. |
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| 08:11.58 | cat | i know (: i'm sorry it was apt-get moo |
| 08:12.15 | Orcrist | lol |
| 08:12.21 | Orcrist | this apt has super-cow powers! |
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| 08:12.30 | idnar | aptitude moo |
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| 08:12.52 | emice- | super-cow-rectum powers more like it |
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| 08:14.42 | mooded | lol. super-cow-powers ;)) |
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| 08:15.01 | Smurg | My History : I wanted to move my /usr directory to another partition for more space. Stupid me, before creating the link I deleted the /usr directory and rebooted Debian.Debian said some recovery mode and did something for a while, and now all I have is the backup of my usr. I created a symbolic link in Debian, and it worked then, but after rebooting , debian says there arent any files in my /usr directory when they actually are present (from knoppix) |
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| 08:15.37 | Smurg | I have to delete the symbolic link, and then re-make it for it to work |
| 08:15.49 | Grimalkin | Anyone running on a sparc? |
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| 08:16.34 | Grimalkin | I'm getting an error on upgrading woody, specifically trying to upgrade libc (yipe!) |
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| 08:17.10 | Smurg | Help!!!! |
| 08:17.16 | cat | do a fsck |
| 08:17.24 | Grimalkin | lol |
| 08:17.30 | Smurg | cat : ? |
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| 08:18.07 | cat | Smurg: yeah fsck as r00t |
| 08:18.22 | Smurg | what is fsck? |
| 08:18.31 | cat | !tell Smurg about fsck |
| 08:18.32 | Grimalkin | fsck: fixes everything... |
| 08:19.01 | Smurg | My file system is FINE! its just misplaced directories |
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| 08:19.18 | cat | then mount the directories, |
| 08:19.40 | Smurg | cat : can you please read my first message? |
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| 08:20.22 | Smurg | Each time I create a symbolic link, it works then, but then after reboot, all gone |
| 08:20.22 | cat | Smurg: yeah mount it to a different drive |
| 08:20.56 | Smurg | cat : Ok details : Initially usr was in /hda12/usr ....my root directory is /hda11..and i moved it to /hda11/usr1 |
| 08:21.15 | cat | try moving it to /hda12 |
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| 08:21.34 | cat | u don't really need that much space, |
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| 08:21.48 | Smurg | seriously ive used 900Mb/1gig partition (hda12) |
| 08:22.09 | Smurg | well Im not sure of how it is present in hda12...I just selected hda12 as /usr...is it present as /hda12/usr ? |
| 08:22.17 | prad | hi do you guys know of a media player that will open videos in the playlist in the same window as the previous video ? |
| 08:22.31 | cat | prad: gnome-xine or mplayer |
| 08:22.46 | cat | or u could put a plugin to xmms prad |
| 08:23.02 | drac | Smurg: are you talking 'bout /dev/hda12 or wtf |
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| 08:23.13 | cat | i think so, |
| 08:23.13 | reNegad3 | sup guys |
| 08:23.25 | prad | cat : I've got xine but that is doing the same thing as noatun. and it is getting annoying because the window settings are not the same on the new window. |
| 08:23.29 | Smurg | drac : Yeah .i selected hda12 as the partition for usr |
| 08:23.34 | edward_ | Fetched 13.8MB in 2s (4745kB/s) <-- sweet the local mirrors.. ;) |
| 08:23.36 | vortek | any one good with wireless ? I cant get my usb wireless to bind to an interface . lsusb see's it and when I unplug it and replug it shows it .. lsmod shows too |
| 08:23.45 | Grimalkin | prad: I've always used xine... quite nice. |
| 08:23.52 | reNegad3 | ive got a server running fc3, im thinking of changing distro to either Debian or Slackware |
| 08:23.56 | drac | Smurg: so edit your /etc/fstab to match /dev/hda<rightone> to /usr |
| 08:24.13 | prad | ok I'll look thought the options in xine... |
| 08:24.17 | cat | vortek: changed it to a different usb from the back or front |
| 08:24.28 | Smurg | drac : Isnt a symbolic link in the original place enough? |
| 08:24.41 | vortek | cat: yeah the problem is it works fine in xp ANd I hate saying that ! |
| 08:24.42 | vortek | lol |
| 08:24.53 | drac | Smurg: huh? |
| 08:25.13 | Smurg | drac : Please read the old message...the big one |
| 08:26.02 | drac | Smurg: no, you put /dev/hda12 /usr <type> <options> <dump> <pass> to your /etc/fstab |
| 08:26.27 | reNegad3 | err so thats a yes?? |
| 08:26.34 | Smurg | drac : I dont know about that, all I did was select hda12 during install... and now I accidentally deleted that directory in hda12 |
| 08:26.38 | Smurg | drac : I have the backup |
| 08:26.44 | cat | vortek: did u do modprobe psmouse |
| 08:26.57 | Smurg | drac : I want to put the backup in a different place and make things ALL RIGHT again |
| 08:26.59 | vortek | why would I do that |
| 08:27.03 | cat | what is it? |
| 08:27.12 | vortek | cat: this is for a usb wireless card |
| 08:27.18 | vortek | mouse is fine |
| 08:27.19 | vortek | :) |
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| 08:27.26 | cat | oh ok, |
| 08:27.32 | cat | vortek: do modconf and check there |
| 08:28.05 | Smurg | drac : Ok Ill try anything...please tell me the command |
| 08:28.30 | Smurg | drac : Now my usr folder is in /hda11 |
| 08:28.46 | vortek | this is a custom kernel no modconf |
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| 08:28.50 | vortek | I just built it |
| 08:29.02 | vortek | didn't work with the stock kernel though either with the module loaded |
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| 08:30.45 | drac | Smurg: so, if you have /usr in /dev/hda11, put something like /dev/hda11 /usr reiserfs notail 0 2 to your /etc/fstab (reiserfs, ext3, ext2, whatever you use) |
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| 08:32.02 | Grimalkin | Second try: anyone running debian woody on a SPARC here? |
| 08:32.12 | drac | !anyone |
| 08:32.13 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
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| 08:32.56 | Grimalkin | pbbt ;) |
| 08:33.07 | Phated | !repeat |
| 08:33.07 | dpkg | i guess repeat is if nobody answers your question, don't just repeat it. Spamming the channel and getting ignored/banned/silenced isn't going to get a faster answer; spamming is a function of time. More likely, nobody knows the answer (/msg dpkg ask), or you need to provide more information (/msg apt sicco)), or ask about "smart questions" |
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| 08:33.32 | vortek | welp brb |
| 08:33.33 | vortek | reboot |
| 08:33.46 | scarynetworkguy | !tell Grimalkin about ask |
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| 08:37.26 | Grimalkin | *sigh* Well.. I see that I'm simply going to get a 'righteous slapdown' by people who just see that I'm asking a question again, but who didn't pay attention to the over five minutes between repetitions. |
| 08:37.27 | jim | I have a gateway which is doing the usual masq thing, but it's on a set of static IPs, and I want to add a third net card which will have the static IPs on it (so they would be routed from the internet thru the gateway and end up available to hosts inside, connected to the third net card). |
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| 08:37.37 | jim | How would I do this? |
| 08:37.46 | simonrvn | Grimalkin: #debian-sparc or #sparc |
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| 08:39.13 | saintiss | hi... is it possible that the calculation which determines if a monitor is out of sync when launching X, is influenced by the current console mode? (e.g. framebuffer vga=791)? |
| 08:39.16 | saintiss | because that seems to be what's happening... |
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| 08:40.20 | npx | saintiss, sounds reasonable.. if you use X, why bother setting up a VGA console? |
| 08:41.05 | saintiss | npx, sure, good point, and I will probably turn it off, but was curious about the reason why... I mean, does the monitor need to take both into account at the same time, even when only one is visible? |
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| 08:41.30 | npx | I don't know, it sounds like a problem with the video card driver in X |
| 08:41.43 | npx | What graphics card are you using? |
| 08:41.45 | jim | what's a good, efficient format for line drawings (like diagrams) that most web browsers can render? |
| 08:41.51 | themolester | hello, i was wondering an opinion from you knowledgable people... i know all of you must use windows at home, friends, or work, or combinations of them... i am looking for a backup tool (image based) that can backup promise junk raid arrays with windows partitions, and md raid arrays with linux partitions (and likewise without raid in both situations) |
| 08:42.00 | saintiss | npx, it's an ati radeon 9200 |
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| 08:42.02 | npx | jim, jpeg? png? |
| 08:42.09 | npx | saintiss, are you using open source drivers? |
| 08:42.16 | saintiss | npx, but X works perfectly fine if I use vga=0 |
| 08:42.17 | themolester | and i need to be able to store it over the network, either by a server/client or by say... samba servers |
| 08:42.21 | saintiss | npx, yes, the built-in debians |
| 08:42.23 | saintiss | "ati" |
| 08:42.50 | saintiss | npx, I can get X to work with vga=791 too, but then I need to lower the refresh rate for example |
| 08:42.56 | saintiss | (using a different modeline) |
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| 08:43.05 | themolester | any ideas on a program which would do that? apparently norton ghost is not recommended with raid arrays, and livestate doesn't seem to mention anything about linux |
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| 08:43.09 | npx | saintiss, I know that if you use riva_fb with nvidia's drivers it causes similar issues (riva_fb writes to portions of memory that the nvidia driver wants to use, or somesuch), so I imagine it's something similar |
| 08:43.11 | jim | npx: would a png store boxy type stuff so the file would be smaller than say a raster? |
| 08:43.22 | nokia6000 | is there an app to handle (inventory) all my commands? i get lots of commands when i tab twice on command line. |
| 08:43.29 | nokia6000 | like... mc (the file manager). is there a executable manager? |
| 08:43.30 | themolester | but i dont find any info against livestate working with linux neither |
| 08:43.35 | npx | jim, I'm not sure, iirc the gimp will tell you how large a file will be in various format |
| 08:43.53 | Phated | nokia6000: ls /bin/, ls /usr/bin/. |
| 08:44.01 | saintiss | npx, hmm, but how is memory usage related to a monitor going out of sync? isn't that something completely different, solely to do with the monitor capabilities? |
| 08:44.03 | npx | jim, and failing that, the 'convert' program in imagemagick could be used to convert to several formats, then you could compare size/quality by hand |
| 08:44.06 | jim | nokia6000: ls /bin /usr/bin? |
| 08:44.25 | nokia6000 | phaethon_, jim, hm... not exactly what i am thinkiing |
| 08:44.33 | nokia6000 | it's hard to keep track with ls |
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| 08:44.47 | Phated | nokia6000: ls /bin/ > bin, less ./bin. |
| 08:44.56 | npx | saintiss, I really don't know, but to me it seems like that's the only thing that could be causing this |
| 08:44.59 | mwilson | Wow... thundercrap STILL can't get even the simple things right. |
| 08:45.09 | jim | oops, I forgot I can't do that! |
| 08:45.13 | Phated | There, now you have a file of binaries. Repeat with /usr/bin. |
| 08:45.26 | saintiss | npx, ok, so basically you're saying that the console mode should not be able to influence X monitor issues, right? |
| 08:45.41 | npx | saintiss, I'm saying that it shouldn't have any effect on your monitor changing modes |
| 08:45.55 | npx | saintiss, But I could be completely wrong |
| 08:46.05 | jim | nokia6000: what are you after, precisely? |
| 08:46.15 | npx | saintiss, do you have read-edid installed? |
| 08:46.17 | saintiss | npx, well, it doesn't really change modes, it just seems that for the same mode it suddenly needs more monitor resources or something |
| 08:46.46 | nokia6000 | jim, i really like mc, if i can have something like mc to manager all the 'tab tab' commands, that will be great |
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| 08:46.54 | saintiss | npx, no, I'm not at the pc in question atm |
| 08:47.04 | npx | saintiss, if you don't have read-edid installed, you might try installing it and not specifying horizsync/vertrefresh at all, just the resolution |
| 08:47.04 | nokia6000 | just by using the up and down arrows and enter key =) |
| 08:47.07 | npx | and seeing if that works |
| 08:47.33 | nokia6000 | but i don't want to switch between /bin/ and /usr/bin |
| 08:47.35 | jim | nokia6000: so you want something to manage the commands you have... hmmm.... |
| 08:47.45 | nokia6000 | yes |
| 08:47.50 | nokia6000 | nokia6000 like... mc (the file manager). is there a executable manager? |
| 08:47.54 | PhUrl | hi alll, i have a cdrom writer that does not want to eject. strace shows : open("/mnt/cdrom/", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 3 ioctl(3, CDROMEJECT, 0xbffffb88) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device) |
| 08:48.05 | jim | there's dpkg |
| 08:48.13 | Phated | nokia6000: ls /bin > binaries && ls /usr/bin/ >> binaries && less binaries |
| 08:48.21 | Phated | Use that. One file, all your binaries, whee! |
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| 08:48.45 | nokia6000 | Phated, that will just be a text file. |
| 08:48.46 | npx | PhUrl, are you telling it to use /mnt/cdrom? |
| 08:48.46 | saintiss | npx, it'll probably help in finding a better modeline, but won't explain why the same modeling would not work depending on a certain console mode...but I'll try anyway... thanks |
| 08:49.03 | npx | saintiss, np, good luck |
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| 08:49.11 | Phated | nokia6000: Don't see why you're bitching. You can see all your executables, with the up and down arrows. |
| 08:49.18 | nokia6000 | Phated, i am thinking like mc, just move arrows up and down, plus enter to run commands |
| 08:49.37 | Phated | Aww, gee. Guess it doesn't exist. Write one, why don't you. <shrug> |
| 08:49.54 | npx | nokia6000, how would you supply those commands with arguments in this mystical program of yours? |
| 08:49.58 | jim | nokia6000: exactly :) it;'s a text file :) your next step, would be to go thru every item in the text file and apply "man" to it |
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| 08:50.28 | scarynetworkguy | Why in the hell would you want something like that? |
| 08:50.37 | scarynetworkguy | I mean you have bash, ftlog. |
| 08:50.40 | Phated | npx: He wants a GUI with an input box to type arguments in, of course. |
| 08:50.56 | scarynetworkguy | gmrun? |
| 08:51.04 | nornagon | Hi. I'm having a bit of a problem - when I start X apps from the console (I'm using gnome-terminal, but I don't know if that has any effect), they start slowly. Qt-based apps complain about "ession management error: Could not open network socket" after waiting a while. |
| 08:51.05 | jim | macos |
| 08:51.06 | jim | :) |
| 08:51.13 | npx | what happens when you want to pipe output to another command? madness |
| 08:51.15 | Phated | No, but then he needs to see all his commands with the up and down buttons, you see. |
| 08:51.17 | nornagon | er. "Session management error: [...]" |
| 08:51.20 | scarynetworkguy | After a while all the commands you use would be in it. |
| 08:51.25 | scarynetworkguy | Heh. |
| 08:51.33 | nornagon | Using kde... but I'm not sure what version. |
| 08:51.40 | scarynetworkguy | npx: Clearly he is insane. But that is kind of beside the point. |
| 08:51.42 | nornagon | Things start fine when I run them from the K menu. |
| 08:52.28 | npx | scarynetworkguy, point taken |
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| 08:52.37 | scarynetworkguy | npx: Heh. |
| 08:52.39 | nornagon | Hm... just tested it from Konsole, same problem, so it's not that. |
| 08:52.39 | Miodrag | hi |
| 08:52.44 | Miodrag | can anyone recomend me an adsl modem-router that could be installed on ISDN line, thx |
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| 08:53.06 | jim | nokia6000: so, why exactly do you want to do this? what have you been doing that led you to this? |
| 08:53.46 | Phated | He thinks he has too many commands and wants to "manage" all of them. For no discernible reason. |
| 08:53.48 | nokia6000 | jim, i was play with 'which' and 'whereis' and <double> tab |
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| 08:54.05 | nokia6000 | there are 3 thousand commands, on double tab |
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| 08:54.08 | Phated | nokia6000: Get a bloody text file and go through it. Slowly and thoroughly. |
| 08:54.22 | jim | Phated: mwell, see, that's why I'm asking him :) |
| 08:54.24 | Phated | Three thousand, eh. Impressive. |
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| 08:54.36 | nokia6000 | jim, ps, i am on flux, so lots of the programs are hidden, not on gnome's menu |
| 08:54.40 | Phated | jim: You think he's going to come up with a better reason than "I dunno". |
| 08:54.55 | jim | Phated: yeah |
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| 08:54.57 | nokia6000 | Phated, there gotta be a better way |
| 08:55.13 | Phated | nokia6000: Yes, like you reading the manpages, but we can't expect you to, can we. |
| 08:55.23 | npx | Any 'better' way would be restrictive |
| 08:55.29 | nokia6000 | Phated, whould be cool, to just hight light the word and hit enter to run it. |
| 08:55.43 | Phated | Would be cooler, you just type "man <cmd>". |
| 08:55.55 | npx | that's what's so damned cool about a unix command prompt, it does your bidding |
| 08:56.01 | npx | no more, no less, no guesswork |
| 08:56.22 | scarynetworkguy | nokia6000: How is that, in any way shape or form, better than just running it from a shell? |
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| 08:56.30 | Phated | Well, I haven't heard of guesswork, but I do like more and less. |
| 08:56.37 | jim | nokia6000: it's status quo for now... the thing is, this bash shell thing isn't very amenable to a gui approach... you just have to slug through and learn it |
| 08:56.41 | nokia6000 | Phated, ah.. that's too difficult. ... " ma n ... < cccmd> " No I CANT DO IT. |
| 08:56.45 | Gnea | ok, someone needs to be shot - why doesn't 'PermitRootLogin No' work in sshd_config? |
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| 08:56.53 | Phated | nokia6000: As evidenced. |
| 08:57.01 | io | Gnea, did you reload your sshd? |
| 08:57.04 | npx | Gnea, it works fine from where I'm sitting |
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| 08:57.16 | Gnea | io: yeah it said to fsck off |
| 08:57.21 | scarynetworkguy | nokia6000: In that case just get Macos X or something. |
| 08:57.24 | idnar | why would you want to login as root via ssh, anyway? |
| 08:57.25 | jim | nokia6000: you've seen a boombox, right? |
| 08:57.31 | Gnea | npx: where do you get your crack and how can i get some? |
| 08:57.51 | Phated | MoacOS has that, do they. |
| 08:57.56 | nokia6000 | scarynetworkguy, macos is expensive |
| 08:57.57 | Phated | Eh, MacOS. |
| 08:58.16 | idnar | Phated: MocASS? |
| 08:58.26 | DeadZed | anyone using storeBackup ?? |
| 08:58.29 | jim | nokia6000: so is linux in the sense that it -requires- you to put in time learning |
| 08:58.32 | Phated | nokia6000: Free, quality, and runs a GUI exec manager. Choose two. |
| 08:58.38 | Gnea | Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd/etc/ssh/sshd_config line 26: Bad yes/without-password/forced-commands-only/no argument: No |
| 08:58.43 | scarynetworkguy | I don't know. But it does provide lots of GUIs to do stuff that could be done quicker and easier from the CLI. |
| 08:58.43 | Phated | idnar: Aye. |
| 08:58.51 | scarynetworkguy | Might be just up his alley. |
| 08:58.56 | npx | Gnea, No needs to be lowercased? |
| 08:58.59 | bucky | nokia6000, you can add to your menu by editing /etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu |
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| 08:59.11 | npx | Gnea, I mean, seriously, did you READ that error? |
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| 09:00.07 | nokia6000 | bucky, ah... but with 3 thousand commands it will probably slow fluxbox down when i pull out the menu. |
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| 09:00.32 | jim | nokia6000: one thing: why do you have so many commands? |
| 09:00.32 | DeadZed | what's the easiest incremental backup tool? |
| 09:00.34 | cat | depends on ur speed, |
| 09:00.41 | bucky | nokia6000, or apt-get flux-conf and do it that way |
| 09:00.43 | Gnea | npx: read it: PermitRootLogin no |
| 09:00.51 | Gnea | npx: no, what? |
| 09:00.51 | usr010 | is there a way to change the desktops resolution # |
| 09:00.56 | nokia6000 | jim, well, double tabs says i do, so i do. |
| 09:01.05 | npx | No uppercase N |
| 09:01.08 | npx | 'no' |
| 09:01.12 | Gnea | doesn't matter |
| 09:01.13 | Gnea | it won't care |
| 09:01.16 | jim | nokia6000: how did you get your machine in that situation? |
| 09:01.39 | npx | PermitRootLogin no works fine here. |
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| 09:02.05 | jim | what do they teach them in hawaii?! |
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| 09:02.52 | bucky | lol |
| 09:02.52 | npx | 3.8.1p1-8 ? |
| 09:02.56 | bucky | grumpydog, |
| 09:03.09 | grumpydog | hiya bucky :) |
| 09:03.10 | Phated | jim: Everyone does, actually. Try a double tab at your prompt. :) |
| 09:03.15 | bucky | heya |
| 09:03.17 | grumpydog | how are you dude? |
| 09:03.24 | bucky | good |
| 09:03.26 | grumpydog | long time no see |
| 09:03.35 | jethro | I just have 2k commands available, need to install some more warez |
| 09:03.49 | jim | have 3000 commands? well, on some boxes yes, but not necessarily all |
| 09:03.57 | grumpydog | I was thinking about you the otherday wondering who you were doing |
| 09:04.03 | npx | jethro, msg me for ftpz !#$&$) |
| 09:04.09 | jethro | heh |
| 09:04.20 | jim | grumpydog: anna nicole smith! |
| 09:04.26 | bucky | grumpydog, im in here a lot |
| 09:04.55 | grumpydog | jim heh anna nicole smith is just a money grabber |
| 09:05.11 | grumpydog | bucky I am not often in this chan |
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| 09:05.24 | bucky | i know |
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| 09:06.47 | Gnea | npx: 3.8.1p1-8.sarge.4 |
| 09:09.19 | Gnea | fuck, why do debian maintainers assume that every debian install is going to be a mass-distributed installation? |
| 09:09.24 | Gnea | stupid shits |
| 09:09.45 | bucky | debian is a virus |
| 09:09.56 | jim | what do you mean mass distributed? |
| 09:11.37 | Gnea | ok let's say you install debian on 500 machines |
| 09:11.42 | DeadZed | bucky why is Debian a virus? |
| 09:11.47 | Gnea | how're you gonna admin those? |
| 09:12.06 | Bouncy | ok, long question. i just changed to sarge dist, and now my iptables setup isnt working properley |
| 09:12.23 | Bouncy | it looks like everything is working except web. |
| 09:12.23 | jethro | !doesn't work |
| 09:12.23 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 09:12.51 | DeadZed | ! hungry kids |
| 09:12.56 | Gnea | yer gonna setup a key so you can use scripts remotely |
| 09:13.00 | DeadZed | !hungry kids |
| 09:13.10 | DeadZed | !doesnt work |
| 09:13.11 | bucky | DeadZed, because every install is a mass-distributed installation |
| 09:13.14 | Gnea | so |
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| 09:13.34 | DeadZed | bucky install customizes kernel an stuff |
| 09:13.49 | Gnea | and now it's working... wtf |
| 09:13.50 | Gnea | lol |
| 09:13.54 | bucky | yeah.. i think it's cool |
| 09:13.56 | jethro | !lart Gnea |
| 09:14.24 | DeadZed | dpkg talk to me dammit ! |
| 09:14.25 | dpkg | DeadZed: no idea |
| 09:14.29 | DeadZed | heh |
| 09:14.31 | DeadZed | :) |
| 09:14.51 | DeadZed | :) |
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| 09:16.21 | Gnea | !smite jethro |
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| 09:18.21 | jim | Bouncy: probably something didn't get configured. |
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| 09:19.41 | Bouncy | jim: not too sure on that one, just did a bass install and then setup my iptables config. |
| 09:19.59 | gilead | hello |
| 09:20.15 | Bouncy | jim: its the same config that i was using on woody and it was working fine on there. that is why im asking if anyone knows what's happened. |
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| 09:21.00 | bucky | jim did sarge do away with /etc/default/iptables ? |
| 09:21.14 | jim | Bouncy: dunno... have you checked? |
| 09:21.22 | bucky | used to be you could enter a rule and it would keep it |
| 09:21.25 | gilead | I'm using Debian with kernel 2.6 and I have problems of various sorts because it wants to use ipv6 instead of ipv4 by default. I'm not a real system admin and I don't care about ipv6, I just want to work without problems. How to disable IPv6 completely so that system uses IPv4 only? I didn't do any configuration changes after upgrading from 2.4. Any hints where should I disable IPv6? |
| 09:21.42 | Bouncy | jim: im kinda new to this stuff, im not too sure how to check to see if something didnt get configured. |
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| 09:22.14 | jim | is /etc/default used in debian? |
| 09:22.45 | jim | Bouncy: maybe the docs for iptables and its changelog would tell you |
| 09:23.17 | Bouncy | jim: thanks ill check them now and get back with what happens. |
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| 09:23.50 | bucky | gilead, you could try puting a file in /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d that contains "ipv6" without the quotes |
| 09:23.51 | jim | it could be that the configuration file format has changed |
| 09:23.59 | directhex | !blacklist |
| 09:24.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, blacklist is <directhex> to stop modules from being loaded at booot time, add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist, or <greycat> and don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules |
| 09:24.24 | mort_ | I'm having a dns problem: some apps resolve fine, some don't. ping, host, lynx, dig are doing good. mozilla and apt-get don't, they're getting 1.0.0.0 in answer |
| 09:24.26 | directhex | dpkg, blacklist =~ s/ooo/oo/ |
| 09:24.26 | dpkg | OK, directhex |
| 09:24.39 | jim | booo |
| 09:24.40 | jim | t |
| 09:25.07 | gilead | bucky: thanks, will try |
| 09:25.11 | jim | in answer to what? |
| 09:25.12 | cafuego | !magic directhex |
| 09:25.18 | mort_ | if I sniff the packets, I see getting two responses, one 1IPv6 and one 1.0.0.0 and I'm on Ipv4 |
| 09:25.34 | gilead | bucky: boo, no /etc/hotplug :-( |
| 09:25.50 | bucky | apt-get it |
| 09:26.00 | resiak | directhex: blacklist =~ s/boot/bo.Ot/ ? |
| 09:26.08 | gilead | hm, ok |
| 09:26.37 | directhex | resiak, s/boot/w00t/ |
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| 09:28.31 | mort_ | arg. no smart person here? |
| 09:28.36 | resiak | directhex: I think that the simplest answer is "yes". |
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| 09:28.46 | gilead | hm, on second thought, if my system don't use hotplug, there *has* to be some other way to turn off IPv6... anyone else has any ideas? |
| 09:28.53 | resiak | mort_: No, we're all insanely dumb. |
| 09:28.53 | cagdas | how do we ask question to dephelper |
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| 09:29.35 | mort_ | resiak: that's what it seems, *sigh* |
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| 09:29.59 | resiak | mort_: Check your proxy settings, etc. |
| 09:30.17 | mort_ | resiak: did that, I don't have one |
| 09:30.19 | kaplanfx | I just tried to build mplayer cvs with fakeroot debian/rules binary |
| 09:30.36 | kaplanfx | its crapping out |
| 09:30.42 | kaplanfx | it needs to run ldconfig |
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| 09:30.45 | kaplanfx | but I get ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied |
| 09:30.57 | kaplanfx | I assume this is becuase I am not actually root? is there a fix? |
| 09:31.18 | directhex | be root? |
| 09:31.25 | kaplanfx | um |
| 09:31.39 | kaplanfx | but shouldn't I not build the package as root? |
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| 09:31.54 | resiak | !rootsmite directhex |
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| 09:32.29 | kaplanfx | could I touch /etc/ld.so.cache and chmod it for my user account? |
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| 09:32.43 | kaplanfx | or is that too dangerous? |
| 09:33.05 | jim | why do you want to do that? |
| 09:33.10 | usr010 | what should i do about character map? all i isee are boxs w/#'s |
| 09:33.12 | kaplanfx | ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied |
| 09:33.22 | reNegad3 | anyways, I asked before, would Debian be good as a server?? |
| 09:33.34 | jim | reNegad3: absolutely |
| 09:33.34 | resiak | reNegad3: Yesh. |
| 09:33.41 | kaplanfx | jim: is that safe? |
| 09:34.03 | jim | reNegad3: you might want to stick to stable only |
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| 09:35.03 | usr010 | i want to host a server with the big 0day gaping security flaw .... muwahaha |
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| 09:35.26 | reNegad3 | ohh ok |
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| 09:35.43 | reNegad3 | so you wouldnt recommend using the 2.6* kernel?? |
| 09:36.14 | jim | reNegad3: what do you want the server for? |
| 09:36.33 | kaplanfx | is it safe to delete ld.so.cache? |
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| 09:36.42 | reNegad3 | well 2 servers actually |
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| 09:36.49 | reNegad3 | plus a desktop machine |
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| 09:37.02 | jim | sarge is probably getting close, and many people use it even for servers, even though it isn't released yet |
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| 09:37.10 | reNegad3 | i feel as though I want to put my hand further into the cookie jar ;) |
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| 09:37.31 | reNegad3 | ive been using fc1,2&3 for like more than a year |
| 09:37.32 | Bramme | are there any other people who have problems with mounting FAT under 2.6.10 ? |
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| 09:37.47 | _rene_ | jim: ... and it has no first-hand security-support yet... |
| 09:37.48 | Katana | OMG!!! HOW DO I TURN THE CAPS LOCK KEY OFF!!! |
| 09:37.58 | directhex | reNegad3, DEFINITELY sarge on desktops, though woody is a better bet for forward-facing servers, since woody gets security updates & sarge doesn't yet |
| 09:37.59 | resiak | Katana: Press it. |
| 09:37.59 | reNegad3 | jim, I would like to use pretty much for all services |
| 09:38.04 | _rene_ | jim: I use it for my server also but I know what I do and I know what to follow |
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| 09:38.22 | Katana | ITZ STUCK |
| 09:38.25 | resiak | Katana: Hahah. |
| 09:38.26 | HoFFY | SHOT |
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| 09:38.35 | jim | bot bot |
| 09:38.36 | HoFFY | imma get wasted |
| 09:38.49 | resiak | Katana: When you manage to unstick it, go into dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and remap it to ctrl. |
| 09:38.53 | HoFFY | :P |
| 09:38.55 | simonrvn | i'd prefer if you just shut up |
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| 09:39.04 | bit` | HoFFY, already there |
| 09:39.29 | Katana | resiak: lol ok |
| 09:39.49 | HoFFY | NO FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD? |
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| 09:40.38 | HoFFY | resiak, im the leet bot, please dont hax0r me |
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| 09:41.33 | resiak | Bah, see where going onto #supybot and asking that he be stopped gets me? I get addressed by the little fucker. |
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| 09:42.24 | reNegad3 | directhex, which kernel would you recommend?? |
| 09:42.28 | reNegad3 | for the servers? |
| 09:43.08 | dvsdude | reNegad3 go 2.4 |
| 09:43.26 | reNegad3 | okay, but which 2.4 version?? |
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| 09:43.35 | shastry | reNegad3: ofocurse latest! |
| 09:43.40 | directhex | reNegad3, woody 2.4 kernels are security patched, despite their version numbers. the thing to remember si as soon as you start compiling your own kernels, you lose any security patches, you start needing to rool your own kernel every time there's a new vulnerability |
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| 09:43.59 | shastry | o.o |
| 09:44.01 | reNegad3 | ohhh |
| 09:44.09 | reNegad3 | okay ta, i will keep that in mind then |
| 09:44.20 | shastry | directhex: are unstable and testing kernels patched ? |
| 09:44.27 | _rene_ | yes |
| 09:44.29 | directhex | that said, the kernel from wooy doesn't support hardware newer than jan 2002 |
| 09:44.45 | reNegad3 | hrmmmm |
| 09:44.55 | reNegad3 | bugger |
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| 09:45.06 | shastry | lol |
| 09:45.09 | shastry | the quit message |
| 09:45.11 | reNegad3 | directhex, is the a alternative to that?? |
| 09:45.16 | reNegad3 | there* |
| 09:45.42 | reNegad3 | im pretty much forced to use the 2.6 kernel then?? |
| 09:45.51 | directhex | why would you be forced to use 2.6? |
| 09:45.55 | directhex | woody can't even use 2.6 |
| 09:45.58 | _rene_ | no, you can use 2.4 on woody. just install woody and install a 2.4 |
| 09:46.07 | _rene_ | directhex: you can |
| 09:46.10 | directhex | you can compile your own recent 2.4 |
| 09:46.12 | reNegad3 | well the hadware I have is newer from what you said |
| 09:46.15 | _rene_ | directhex: if you build it woithout modules ;) |
| 09:46.23 | directhex | _rene_, yeah, real useful |
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| 09:46.38 | _rene_ | directhex: why? you know what you hacve in your pc. no need for modules ;) |
| 09:46.40 | directhex | reNegad3, it might install |
| 09:46.47 | jim | thats not true.. you could build initrd kernels |
| 09:47.04 | _rene_ | jim: nope. you still need module-init-tools at runtime to load modules |
| 09:47.16 | _rene_ | jim: which woody doesn't have |
| 09:47.19 | directhex | jim, woody cannot load 2.6-style modules. unless you use backports of tools, at which point it's not woody anymore |
| 09:47.32 | jim | _rene_: for 2.4? or 2.6? |
| 09:47.41 | _rene_ | for 2.6 |
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| 09:48.17 | _rene_ | directhex: If I compile my own kernels I mostly make it monolithic. Since I know what I need and what not :) |
| 09:48.37 | directhex | _rene_, mostly? |
| 09:48.40 | jim | oic, so what you're saying is that as far as woody can go is 2.4 if you want to be able to load modules with woody-native tools |
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| 09:49.03 | _rene_ | directhex: the most time |
| 09:49.10 | _rene_ | directhex: there *are* rare exceptions |
| 09:49.12 | directhex | jim, exactly. |
| 09:49.17 | _rene_ | jim: yes |
| 09:49.39 | reNegad3 | is there going to be a stable release for the 2.6 kernel then?? |
| 09:49.51 | _rene_ | sarge, when it is out |
| 09:49.51 | reNegad3 | it might pay off just to hold up untill it does |
| 09:50.00 | directhex | reNegad3, when sarge is released as stable. |
| 09:50.03 | estel | i have a quite tough problem here: i can't mount an usb stick with a fat filesystem although the module for fat is loaded (lsmod says that). the strange thing: i can mount the same stick if there is a ext2 filesystem on it. any ideas? |
| 09:50.22 | reNegad3 | ohh ok |
| 09:50.24 | jim | reNegad3: sarge can use 2.6... but woody will -never- get new features, because it's already released |
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| 09:51.18 | simonrvn | w00t, red green show watcher |
| 09:51.52 | dondelelcaro | simonrvn: ah... been a while since I've watched that show |
| 09:52.13 | simonrvn | ("Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati") # from the show :) |
| 09:52.14 | jim | (at least, in an official sense: but backports of various things are constantly being made for it) |
| 09:52.19 | estel | do i have to install packages to use a fat filesystem? |
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| 09:52.34 | jim | not that I know of |
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| 09:53.02 | simonrvn | haven't seen it in a while.. they had a "flash-back" show not too long ago (think it was a repeat, but WTF, it was funny) |
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| 09:53.04 | jim | what do your logs say when you try? |
| 09:53.11 | estel | but isn't it strange that i can mount my stick when there is a fat filesystem on it? |
| 09:53.12 | jim | what message does it print? |
| 09:53.18 | jim | why doesn't it mount? |
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| 09:53.32 | WizeGuy | heya guys. Someone deleted squid from /etc/init.d. And now I'm not able to reinstall/remove the package completely. What can I do? |
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| 09:53.43 | estel | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, |
| 09:53.43 | estel | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:53.58 | directhex | estel, how are you mounting? |
| 09:54.10 | Bramme | estel : kernel 2.6.10 ? |
| 09:54.18 | estel | mount -tvfat /dev/sdc1 /mnt/; yes: kernel 2.6.10 |
| 09:54.19 | jim | estel: I have no idea if it's strange or not :) the problem is not yet determined |
| 09:54.29 | simonrvn | WizeGuy: apt-get -d --reinstall install squid, fetch the init script from it by cd /tmp; dpkg -x /var/cache/apt/archives/squid*.deb . |
| 09:54.39 | WizeGuy | simonrvn: thanks mate |
| 09:54.43 | jim | is it vfat? |
| 09:54.43 | Bramme | estel : debian sarge or gentoo? |
| 09:54.48 | estel | sarge |
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| 09:54.56 | estel | virtual fat - filesystem of windows 9.x |
| 09:55.09 | jim | and the vfat module is loaded? |
| 09:55.17 | usr010 | som1hassomesikhumor |
| 09:55.21 | estel | module fat and vfat |
| 09:55.47 | estel | cat /dev/sdc shows the data, so it's not a problem of usb modules |
| 09:56.01 | jim | a lot of people are claiming problems with fat and 2.6.10 |
| 09:56.17 | Bramme | jim so am i |
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| 09:56.33 | Bramme | i am now on windows, imagine how desperate i am :p |
| 09:56.33 | jim | I've seen 4 or 5 tonite |
| 09:56.39 | estel | on another pc i'm also using 2.6.10 and it works; but i'll try with 2.6.9 |
| 09:56.54 | jim | don't put all your weight on them! |
| 09:57.32 | Bramme | estel : debian sarge + 2.6.10 + fat = :( |
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| 09:58.00 | estel | i've compiled the kernel myself, but it should work |
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| 09:58.37 | estel | are there any details about that problem yet? |
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| 09:58.43 | panda | how to bring a it back? I ran vim, and then disown it. how can i bring it back ? |
| 09:58.57 | Bramme | is there any windows-tool that can WRITE on ext 3 partitions, that's my only hope |
| 09:59.08 | jim | a it? |
| 09:59.10 | estel | ext2reader |
| 09:59.15 | estel | it also ready ext3 |
| 09:59.34 | Bramme | estel , does it WRITE ex3 also ? |
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| 09:59.58 | estel | i'm not sure, but i don't think so |
| 10:00.50 | Bramme | it doesn't write ext3 :( |
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| 10:01.44 | panda | how to make vim reconnect to my console again? |
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| 10:04.19 | speakman | good morning folks (in europe at least) ;P |
| 10:04.40 | estel | morning ? ;-) |
| 10:05.25 | panda | help meeee |
| 10:05.41 | streuner_ | panda: assssskkkk |
| 10:05.57 | jim | heeeeeee diiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddd |
| 10:06.02 | jim | :) |
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| 10:06.08 | panda | how to make vim reconnect to my console again? streuner_ |
| 10:06.18 | streuner_ | uhm |
| 10:06.19 | panda | how to bring a it back? I ran vim, and then disown it. how can i bring it back ? streuner_ |
| 10:06.25 | jim | oh, you weren't here when he asked |
| 10:06.43 | speakman | Why does jigdo make my Dell PowerEdge 1850 slow as an 386? |
| 10:07.09 | directhex | speakman, it's a dell! |
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| 10:07.19 | speakman | directhex: d0h.. :P |
| 10:07.30 | prog | speakman: because you have isa network card :-) |
| 10:07.45 | speakman | prog: don't think so huh.. ;) |
| 10:08.12 | speakman | Intel eepro 1000 on ISA bus.. ;P |
| 10:08.16 | speakman | dual also.. |
| 10:08.21 | jim | isa? |
| 10:08.30 | directhex | speakman, any monkey can have dual gigabit these days |
| 10:08.35 | jim | that;s what he said :P |
| 10:08.40 | prog | isa doesnt support dma |
| 10:08.42 | directhex | speakman, you need quad infiniband to be cool |
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| 10:09.10 | dvsdude | hey all got a toshiba laptop with atiixp sound loads ok but i get hiss at boot up |
| 10:09.32 | dvsdude | then when i start an app it goes away |
| 10:09.32 | jim | oh, that's your cat :) |
| 10:09.42 | dvsdude | but then can close app and get the sound |
| 10:10.00 | dvsdude | goes away |
| 10:10.37 | dvsdude | debian running 2.6.10 |
| 10:11.15 | jim | there's #alsa here |
| 10:11.21 | estel | ext2ifs also reads ext filesystems on window (nt), but can't write either. |
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| 10:12.01 | dvsdude | chears jim |
| 10:12.30 | cafuego | Explore2fs (payware) reads and writes ext2 and ext3 on Win* |
| 10:12.38 | cafuego | Sorry, Ext2Anywhere |
| 10:12.39 | jim | what happens on 2.6.9 btw? |
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| 10:15.39 | jethro | howdi |
| 10:16.22 | torbjorn | what does a high "irq" percentage in top indicate? |
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| 10:17.57 | jim | that interrupt service code is running a lot wrt mainline code? |
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| 10:18.19 | torbjorn | i suppose that is not a normal thing |
| 10:18.52 | torbjorn | it is constantly on >= 60% usage, moving back and forth on 2 cpus on a dual cpu system |
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| 10:19.06 | jim | what does man top say? |
| 10:19.13 | torbjorn | no match for irq there |
| 10:19.53 | directhex | torbjorn, are they absolutely identical cpus? |
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| 10:20.43 | directhex | torbjorn, if you cat /proc/cpuinfo, do both have _identical_ bogomips? |
| 10:20.44 | torbjorn | yes |
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| 10:21.03 | torbjorn | no wait |
| 10:21.04 | torbjorn | they dont |
| 10:21.21 | torbjorn | its a dual P4 HT system |
| 10:21.21 | soulreaper | how can i encrypt my clear text wep key to a 128 bit key? |
| 10:21.32 | torbjorn | 1 of the 4 cpus has a different number |
| 10:21.51 | directhex | torbjorn, return it then. |
| 10:21.52 | usr010 | is p4 1or2 proccessors or what 686? ? im thinking of changing the kernel arch |
| 10:21.55 | vulture | torbjorn: there should probably be two pairs of matching stats (the hyperthreads in each cpu) |
| 10:22.06 | vulture | I guess anyway *shrugs* |
| 10:22.15 | torbjorn | cpu0: 5544.34, cpu1-3: 5570.56 |
| 10:22.24 | directhex | useruser, p4 is intel pentium 4, 686 is pentium pro or higher |
| 10:22.30 | DotHack | soulreaper: in iwconfig they niary key is shown |
| 10:22.41 | DotHack | soulreaper: binary |
| 10:22.58 | usr010 | so what arch should p4 use? |
| 10:23.06 | directhex | useruser, 686 |
| 10:23.21 | directhex | useruser, 686-smp if you have hyperthreading |
| 10:23.34 | usr010 | shit im running 386 |
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| 10:23.52 | torbjorn | hm.. a quite new harddrive recently failed in a software raid on the system. |
| 10:24.04 | torbjorn | i suspect something is fishy |
| 10:24.12 | dvsdude | is there pc speaker option in kernel make xconfig |
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| 10:25.12 | torbjorn | actually what does the irq percentage mean, what kind of work is being done in that category? |
| 10:26.07 | directhex | torbjorn, interrupt requests. on mismatched smp systems, the system spends an inordinate amount of time swapping processes between CPUs |
| 10:26.09 | speakman | directhex: But even an 386 won't slow down this much by jigdo :P |
| 10:26.20 | speakman | directhex: _with_ ISA.. :P |
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| 10:27.28 | torbjorn | disbaling HT maybe helps |
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| 10:29.10 | zlost1 | how can i make my usb thumb drive automaticaly mount when inserted |
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| 10:30.13 | dvsdude | zlostl need to script it up with hotplug check out knoppix it does it by default |
| 10:30.47 | zlost1 | ok im already in knoppix |
| 10:30.57 | zlost1 | where does it mount it ? |
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| 10:31.29 | dvsdude | normally sda |
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| 10:31.32 | zlost1 | i see it detect the device and give it a name, but i dont see any dmesg output on where |
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| 10:33.22 | dvsdude | check messages |
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| 10:33.46 | zlost1 | some place other than dmesg ? |
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| 10:34.08 | zlost1 | cause i looked there and it doesnt say anything about path to device |
| 10:35.00 | Dave` | hi |
| 10:35.05 | Enflam3D_89 | hello] |
| 10:35.50 | Dave` | We'e having a problem here (debian sarge install party) with the sarge 108M install CD: the install procedure workds okay, right up to installing Grub. There, the installer freezes while setting up grub |
| 10:35.55 | Enflam3D_89 | Holy shit, this channel has a lot of people! |
| 10:36.17 | Dave` | the console on term 2 is still accessible, its just that grub never finishes setting up (locks up at "determining boot device") |
| 10:36.27 | Enflam3D_89 | Oh... |
| 10:36.36 | Enflam3D_89 | I have Debian Sarge installer |
| 10:36.40 | Dave` | We get this on 10 of the 12 machines we have here |
| 10:36.40 | directhex | Dave`, #debian-boot ? |
| 10:36.44 | Enflam3D_89 | I didn't have any problems with it |
| 10:37.04 | Dave` | aha |
| 10:37.11 | Dave` | directhex: thanks, didn't know about that chan |
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| 10:38.48 | ardy | why do I have a /.dev and a /dev directory? shouldn't I only have a /dev dir? |
| 10:39.25 | directhex | /.dev is a real /dev |
| 10:39.27 | directhex | /dev is a udev-created dev |
| 10:39.39 | ardy | huh?? |
| 10:39.49 | ardy | whats udev? |
| 10:39.58 | zlost1 | i dont see anything about auto mount in dmsg |
| 10:40.13 | directhex | a daemon which creates device nodes on the fly to match /sys |
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| 10:40.21 | directhex | rather than having every possible device always |
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| 10:41.34 | Ferret | (or carefully pruned manual /dev containing what you know you have, created and destroyed when you add/remove stuff from your system...) |
| 10:41.53 | ardy | oh... ok cool I thought somthing was wrong... thanks |
| 10:42.52 | zlost1 | if a device were mounted automaticaly, and i manualy tried to mount it again...wouldnt mount say it was already mounted ? |
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| 10:43.31 | jethro | zlost1: it would say so, according to mtab |
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| 10:44.54 | zlost1 | following this line of logic if im able to manualy mount my usb thumb drive and mount didnt say anything then it wasnt mounted before? |
| 10:45.12 | zlost1 | and therfore the automount script isnt working ? |
| 10:45.48 | paulswm | zlost1: sounds like it and you can check what's mounted with 'mount' |
| 10:46.15 | zlost1 | ahh i been noticing df didnt have the output i was looking for |
| 10:46.37 | paulswm | zlost1: although it is perfectly OK to mount the same device in more than one place |
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| 10:47.04 | jethro | !gentoosmite |
| 10:47.13 | zlost1 | im confused by this line |
| 10:47.16 | directhex | you can mount $foo on top of $bar |
| 10:47.23 | zlost1 | ./proc/bus/usb on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw,devmode=0666) |
| 10:47.45 | zlost1 | whats that mean...that usb devices are in /mnt/usbfs ? |
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| 10:49.48 | zlost1 | im a lil behind the times but isnt mtab what tells mount how to auto mount things and where ? |
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| 10:50.05 | jethro | zlost1: that's fstab you're talking about |
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| 10:50.24 | jethro | zlost1: mtab has the list of mounted filesystems |
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| 10:50.58 | zlost1 | then /proc/bus/usb should have my thumb drive in it right ? |
| 10:51.18 | jethro | I highly doubt auto mount would mount stuff in /proc |
| 10:51.33 | directhex | what devfs dodginess are you using :| |
| 10:51.35 | zlost1 | thats what i thought too |
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| 10:51.56 | prad | Hey has anyone had any problems with xine playing wma (problems as in the sound doesn't play) ? |
| 10:52.05 | zlost1 | dodginess ? |
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| 10:52.13 | PerfDave | prad: have you installed the w32codecs package? |
| 10:52.14 | jethro | !tell prad about anyone |
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| 10:52.34 | japro | hi, i when i try to do something with apt get i always get a bus error what does that mean? |
| 10:52.39 | PerfDave | prad: Newer versions of WMA probably aren't supported, use a less sucky format :) |
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| 10:52.49 | nome | hi |
| 10:53.24 | zlost1 | ok so if i were to add a line like /dev/uba1 /mnt/usb rw 0 0 to fstab it should auto mount right ? |
| 10:53.24 | prad | PerfDave : I had installed codecs from mplayerhq.hu and added them to /usr/lib/win32 dir. Before that wma files didn't play at all. |
| 10:53.39 | Joris | anyone good in setting the right mtu/mss/clamping options for masquerading pppoe links? I got most things fixed, but not everything |
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| 10:54.13 | jethro | zlost1: man mount man fstab |
| 10:54.27 | jethro | zlost1: this way you will not be guessing |
| 10:54.31 | nome | since an upgrade from yesterday i can't mount hdc anymore o0 |
| 10:54.31 | prad | PerfDave : Yeah I thought of converting them as well. but I wanted to avoid that coz it will be a lengthy process... :/ |
| 10:54.51 | nome | where can i past a dmesg? |
| 10:54.55 | PerfDave | prad: Hmm, putting things in /usr/lib that aren't from apt is possibly a bad idea |
| 10:54.58 | zlost1 | i wish knoppix were better documented |
| 10:54.59 | jethro | !tell nome about paste |
| 10:55.09 | jethro | !!!!! |
| 10:55.09 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 10:55.16 | prad | PerfDave : that w32 codec pack that you were talking, is that from mplayerhq.hu ? |
| 10:55.25 | PerfDave | zlost1: Uhm, if you're using Knoppix, you should be asking #knoppix for help. This is a channel for Debian. |
| 10:55.26 | nome | dpkg !tell paste |
| 10:55.26 | dpkg | nome: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 10:55.36 | PerfDave | prad: No, it's a Debian package. I don't know where the upstream comes from. |
| 10:55.37 | jethro | zlost1: /j #knoppix and stop wasting our time if you are actually having mount issues on knoppix and dare to ask for support in here |
| 10:55.44 | zlost1 | id love too if anyone ever answered |
| 10:55.53 | nkuttler | how do i configure the default session for all users for gdm in sarge? |
| 10:56.07 | prad | PerfDave : ahh cool... I'll have a look for it ... is it called w32 codec ? |
| 10:56.10 | PerfDave | zlost1: People not answering your questions in #knoppix is not a Debian problem. |
| 10:56.15 | zlost1 | its still debian |
| 10:56.22 | jethro | no it's not |
| 10:56.30 | PerfDave | zlost1: Knoppix is not Debian. Read the /topic. |
| 10:56.50 | nome | it seems it searching before for ide1 and it searches until ide 5? |
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| 10:56.56 | nome | what can it be? |
| 10:57.05 | directhex | zlost1, the fact that you have devfs shows you aren't using debian. if debian solutions don't help you, that';s not our problem |
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| 10:57.08 | directhex | !debian solutions |
| 10:57.09 | dpkg | debian solutions are the answers to debian problems. we don't care if debian solutions don't apply to non-debian distributions (hardware issues with knoppix, packaging issues with linspire, whatever) |
| 10:57.23 | PerfDave | prad: w32codecs, IIRC. It may be in the non-free repositories |
| 10:57.32 | directhex | PerfDave, it's in marillat |
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| 10:57.41 | prad | kool ta |
| 10:57.42 | jethro | yes marillat has the codecs packaged |
| 10:57.47 | PerfDave | prad: It's in marillat. /msg dpkg marillat. |
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| 10:57.58 | prad | ahh thanx |
| 10:58.26 | paster | "nome" at 82.52.56.239 pasted "take a loo on ide5 o0" (261 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/245 |
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| 10:59.51 | w0wie | recently my debian machine keeps to occassionally turn itself off, how would i find logs maybe stating what is going on |
| 10:59.58 | nome | i feel there is a kind of bug ... do you know what can it be? |
| 11:00.16 | dangerman[newby] | Hello |
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| 11:01.17 | dangerman[newby] | I need some help with the system sounds |
| 11:01.31 | jethro | !tell dangerman[newby] about ask |
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| 11:02.10 | MaxieBooBooHoff | Does someone have experience with nforce 3 sata and kernel 2.6 config ? |
| 11:02.18 | dangerman[newby] | I've got sound with Xmms, but i've got no system sounds how do i set this right |
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| 11:10.11 | deb-ik | hello |
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| 11:10.25 | deb-ik | anyone knows how to install psm? |
| 11:11.11 | PerfDave | dangerman[newby]: Which desktop are you using? KDE? Do you have system sounds if you close xmms? |
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| 11:13.35 | BlSabbath | hi |
| 11:14.16 | faxo | hi |
| 11:14.18 | BlSabbath | i'm new here..i want to know how uninstall temporary files |
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| 11:14.37 | BlSabbath | i mean directory tmp, var/tmp |
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| 11:15.08 | BlSabbath | anyone know it? |
| 11:15.28 | jethro | BlSabbath: reboot |
| 11:15.31 | mos__ | a lot of things use tmp its cleared on reboot though if thats all the functionality your looking for |
| 11:15.41 | mos__ | you cant just remove tmp |
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| 11:16.15 | BlSabbath | yes i know..that's why i've asked here :D |
| 11:16.21 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: Why do you want to delete your /tmp directory? |
| 11:16.27 | PerfDave | !wayttd BlSabbath |
| 11:16.28 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, BlSabbath? |
| 11:16.30 | BlSabbath | space |
| 11:16.47 | w0wie | recently my debian machine keeps to occassionally turn itself off, how would i find logs maybe stating what is going on, ANY IDEAS? |
| 11:16.57 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: You don't want to delete your /tmp directory. You might want to delete some things *in* the /tmp directory, but you will need to make sure nothing's using them. |
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| 11:17.16 | BlSabbath | yes..perfect |
| 11:17.40 | BlSabbath | i know that someting is needed and something not |
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| 11:18.29 | paulswm | BlSabbath: what does 'sudo du -sk /tmp' say? |
| 11:18.46 | BlSabbath | what that? |
| 11:19.14 | paulswm | BlSabbath: or, if you don't have sudo installed execute this as root and post the one line output: 'du -sk /tmp' |
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| 11:19.39 | BlSabbath | 0 /tmp |
| 11:19.54 | BlSabbath | what it means? |
| 11:19.59 | jethro | w0wie: /var/log now quit repeating |
| 11:20.19 | paulswm | BlSabbath: that means that there's nothing in /tmp. du tells you disk usage |
| 11:20.46 | datoch | hi |
| 11:20.52 | PerfDave | !tell BlSabbath -about msg |
| 11:20.53 | datoch | which package contains libiconv? |
| 11:21.18 | paulswm | BlSabbath: what makes you think that you have a problem with temp files? |
| 11:21.32 | paulswm | BlSabbath: trying to help you here |
| 11:21.34 | cef | so is python 2.4 safe? |
| 11:21.48 | BlSabbath | i've no problem..just want to know if is possible to save space |
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| 11:21.54 | mos__ | cef: i havent had any problems with it |
| 11:22.00 | cef | cool *grin* |
| 11:22.54 | BlSabbath | my tmp directory is a link of /var/tmp |
| 11:22.56 | jethro | BlSabbath: /tmp /var/tmp usually don't each that much space unless you {mv,cp}'ed stuff there |
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| 11:23.06 | jethro | s/each/eat/ |
| 11:23.28 | paulswm | BlSabbath: you shouldn;t generally clean files in /var/tmp unless they are taking up a lot of space and you are sure that they are no longer needed, as files in /var/tmp are supposed to be prserved across reboots. A good refernce for the Linux filesystem is the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard doc in the debian-policy package. |
| 11:23.32 | mos__ | has anyone in here tried installing x.org? |
| 11:23.48 | jethro | mos__: no |
| 11:24.00 | jethro | mos__: we're all sissies, we don't even dare thinking about it |
| 11:24.06 | mos__ | lol |
| 11:24.19 | datoch | which package contains libiconv? |
| 11:24.23 | BlSabbath | paulsvm: thanks for the clear answer |
| 11:24.29 | jethro | datoch: ask packages.debian.org |
| 11:25.24 | BlSabbath | so you suggest me to leave that dir untouched? |
| 11:25.39 | datoch | jethro: it reports only -ruby and -hook packages, but I undertand it comes with libc |
| 11:26.01 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: Are you running Knoppix by any chance? |
| 11:26.06 | datoch | jethro: I cannot find it in my system (libc6-dev is installed) |
| 11:26.16 | BlSabbath | yes |
| 11:26.26 | PerfDave | !topicsmite BlSabbath |
| 11:26.27 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon BlSabbath. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 11:26.29 | PerfDave | !knoppixsmite BlSabbath |
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| 11:26.41 | paulswm | BlSabbath: you can use that du command elshwhere in the filesystem to see where space is being eaten up. You can also clean debina package cache by doing 'apt-get clean' or 'aptitude clean'. Debian packages are kept in /var/cache/apt, so if 'du -sh /var/cache/apt' shows a lot of space being used up, do one of the clean commands. |
| 11:26.48 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: KNOPPIX IS NOT DEBIAN. This is the *wrong* place to ask Knoppix questions. Go to #knoppix. |
| 11:26.49 | BlSabbath | ahahahahha.. |
| 11:26.53 | paulswm | s/debian/debian/ |
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| 11:26.58 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: Debian is not retarded enough to symlink /tmp to /var/tmp |
| 11:27.02 | BlSabbath | but knoppix is empty!! |
| 11:27.31 | jethro | knoppix is empty cause it's the tard's distro |
| 11:27.31 | BlSabbath | i know the difference between oxigen and ozone :DD |
| 11:27.31 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: #knoppix being empty is NOT OUR FUCKING PROBLEM. Do you go ask #mysql about Knoppix problems? Then you shouldn't ask #debian either. |
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| 11:27.58 | BlSabbath | PerfDave that wasn't a knoppix problem i think |
| 11:28.02 | mos__ | BlSabbath: go ask thier forums then |
| 11:28.16 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: It was a Knoppix problem, because Debian doesn't symlink /tmp to /var/tmp |
| 11:28.27 | paulswm | BlSabbath: anyway I hope my answers will be of some help in the future |
| 11:28.48 | BlSabbath | ok..nevermind that link..the problem of unistalling temp files remains |
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| 11:28.56 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: No, it doesn't. |
| 11:29.05 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: Because you wouldn't have this problem if you were running Debian. Now fuck off. |
| 11:29.11 | BlSabbath | it was a general question! |
| 11:29.21 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: So ask #linux |
| 11:29.24 | BlSabbath | i'm new here so i want to know more |
| 11:29.28 | jethro | BlSabbath: you're right, it's neither a debian, nor a knoppix problem |
| 11:29.32 | jethro | BlSabbath: it's pebcak |
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| 11:29.34 | vchrizz_work | hiho |
| 11:29.57 | vchrizz_work | uhm, which file is beeing processed, when doing $ logout ? |
| 11:30.07 | BlSabbath | PerfDave tahnks..you're so gentle.. |
| 11:30.08 | PerfDave | vchrizz_work: If you're using bash, .bash_logout |
| 11:30.14 | paulswm | BlSabbath: you are wasting people's time if you ask questions which we think are related to debian when they're not, hence the hostility. It's not just you, we get a lot of it. |
| 11:30.32 | vchrizz_work | PerfDave: ah, do i have to create that file, if it isnt there? |
| 11:30.40 | jethro | oh yeah we get a whole f***ing lot of morons, that's for sure |
| 11:30.43 | PerfDave | vchrizz_work: No, if it's not there then nothing will get run on logout. |
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| 11:30.46 | BlSabbath | ok ok, i promise to install debian in future |
| 11:31.00 | BlSabbath | that was in my toughts.. |
| 11:31.04 | chugga | whoa, you guys suck. whats with the attitude |
| 11:31.05 | paulswm | BlSabbath: :D *now* you're talking! |
| 11:31.07 | jethro | BlSabbath: that won't make us help you on your knoppix issue |
| 11:31.21 | PerfDave | BlSabbath: Installing Debian is one way to fix the temp file problem you're having. |
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| 11:32.16 | BlSabbath | ok, so your last answere was that leave untouched that damn tmp directory |
| 11:32.30 | jethro | indeed |
| 11:32.35 | datoch | ok, I'm trying to compile some package which depends on -libiconv, bu debian hasn't libiconv as an separete package. |
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| 11:33.28 | mos__ | datoch: look on apt-get.org |
| 11:33.40 | vchrizz_work | PerfDave: touch ~/.bash_logout; echo "history -c" >> ~/.bash_logout; did the job, thx ;) |
| 11:33.41 | paulswm | BlSabbath: A hint about knoppix is that linking /tmp to /var/tmp is plain silly as they have two quite different purposes, so install debian sarge :D |
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| 11:34.13 | PerfDave | vchrizz_work: What does "history -c" do? |
| 11:34.27 | jethro | clear the history? |
| 11:35.06 | sKaBoy | jethro, bash -> help history |
| 11:35.27 | PerfDave | datoch: What are you trying to compile? If you know the name of the file you're looking for, search for it with apt-file or on http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 11:35.31 | vchrizz_work | hum, i just googled for "linux clear history" and there ive found some persons saying "history -c" |
| 11:36.28 | datoch | PerfDave: it's libiconv, I don't know exact file name |
| 11:36.42 | PerfDave | datoch: What are you trying to compile? |
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| 11:37.08 | datoch | PerfDave: I;m compiling mbuni (open source mmsc) |
| 11:37.12 | vchrizz_work | jethro: uhm |
| 11:37.13 | vchrizz_work | vchrizz@elenor:~$ history -h |
| 11:37.13 | vchrizz_work | bash: history: -h: invalid option |
| 11:37.13 | vchrizz_work | history: usage: history [-c] [-d offset] [n] or history -awrn [filename] or history -ps arg [arg...] |
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| 11:37.31 | vchrizz_work | uh, sorry :P |
| 11:37.34 | PerfDave | datoch: Are you compiling it into /usr/local? :) |
| 11:37.35 | SiliconViper | Oh Snap! |
| 11:37.40 | SiliconViper | ^_^ |
| 11:37.42 | jethro | vchrizz_work: man history gives a manpage about the history library, not the history command |
| 11:37.47 | SiliconViper | How's everyone tonight? |
| 11:37.56 | SiliconViper | Well, night in GMT-8 |
| 11:38.02 | jethro | vchrizz_work: as for your problem, why clean your history on logout? |
| 11:38.18 | jp_ | Hi. Someone could help me? I've a problem, I'd like to undelete a file on my hda, but I only have a partition so, it's more complicate and I don't know what I can do. Could somene help me please? |
| 11:38.19 | datoch | PerfDave: why you asking that? configure script can't find iconv library |
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| 11:38.45 | PerfDave | datoch: I'm asking that because you should always hand-compile stuff into /usr/local or /opt or $HOME or somewhere safe. |
| 11:38.56 | vchrizz_work | jethro: because im paranoid and dont want admins, see what i did? who's interest is it, to see that i edited my bashrc ? |
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| 11:39.29 | SiliconViper | vchrizz_work, the way *I* would do it, is to symlink ~/.bash_history to /dev/null |
| 11:39.29 | datoch | PerfDave: yes, but it will not solve my problem ;) |
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| 11:39.31 | PerfDave | datoch: No, but it will prevent you having other problems. |
| 11:39.44 | vulture | vchrizz_work: you can't really cover yourself from people with higher permissions than you.. |
| 11:39.46 | datoch | PerfDave: I already know that |
| 11:39.52 | jethro | SiliconViper: pointless if your HISTFILE is set to something under admin's control |
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| 11:39.54 | vulture | vchrizz_work: if they really care, they'll find out what you are doing |
| 11:40.08 | jethro | vchrizz_work: as vulture said, if they care what you do is pointless |
| 11:40.09 | SiliconViper | vchrizz_work, The thing you should be aware of... nevermind, jethro got to it first. |
| 11:40.17 | vchrizz_work | SiliconViper: hum, good idea ;) |
| 11:40.18 | PerfDave | datoch: *shrug* Can't blame me for trying to help. |
| 11:40.24 | SiliconViper | -_- |
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| 11:40.41 | PerfDave | datoch: does libiconv-hook-dev not have the files you need? |
| 11:40.47 | datoch | PerfDave: sorry, I didn't mean that |
| 11:40.55 | cef | jp_: are you using ext2 or ext3? |
| 11:41.01 | vchrizz_work | jethro: ya, i know they can log my account, but ive got enough rights, to see if they do such things or not ;) |
| 11:41.29 | datoch | PerfDave: it's apache library |
| 11:41.40 | SiliconViper | vchrizz_work, anyone who really wants to log your activities, will have logs in non-standard places, and sometimes copies in other places, sometimes on another box. Why fight it? |
| 11:42.05 | SiliconViper | vchrizz_work, the way I'd handle it would be... hand on, lemme write this out. |
| 11:42.16 | SiliconViper | *hang |
| 11:42.41 | cef | SiliconViper: he's probably just trying to hide all the recursive wget's he's making to stile from work |
| 11:42.46 | vulture | vchrizz_work: how do you? root could just make its home directory unreadable by anyone other than root.. |
| 11:42.51 | jethro | !dict stile |
| 11:42.52 | SiliconViper | cef: >_< |
| 11:42.53 | dpkg | Dictionary 'stile' (2 shown; 9 total): 2. Mode of composition. See Style. [Obs.] ;; . Stile \Stile\, n. [OE. stile, AS. stigel a step, a ladder, from st[=i]gan to ascend; akin to OHG. stigila a stile. [root]164. See Sty, v. i., and cf. Stair.] 1. A step, or set of steps, for ascending and descending, in passing a fence or wall.. |
| 11:42.57 | vulture | vchrizz_work: or any other directory |
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| 11:43.32 | vchrizz_work | cef: lol, nope, im just hiding: tar cf /projstat/ projstat.tar; scp projstat.tar myserver:/home/vchrizz/; |
| 11:43.34 | jethro | vulture: or the processes, since changes are you can spot someone eavesdropping on you looking at the processes running, better then looking at the content of the ~ |
| 11:43.42 | jethro | s/changes are/chances are/ |
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| 11:43.53 | vulture | jethro: *nods* |
| 11:44.09 | cef | vchrizz_work: well, not from us you aren't *grin* |
| 11:44.11 | vchrizz_work | i may not copy companys work to outside the company :P |
| 11:44.23 | vulture | vchrizz_work: get over it, if root cares what you are doing, they'll know |
| 11:44.33 | vulture | vchrizz_work: and you admit it in here? |
| 11:44.39 | jethro | vchrizz_work: shame on you |
| 11:44.40 | vulture | vchrizz_work: there are good reasons for policy like that.. |
| 11:44.48 | jethro | !lart vchrizz_work |
| 11:44.54 | vchrizz_work | vulture: sure, but this is just a suse box, not pretty set up, just running for oracle db |
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| 11:44.59 | vulture | (and the plural of company is companies, not companys) |
| 11:45.09 | jethro | think he meant company's |
| 11:45.22 | vulture | jethro: true enough |
| 11:45.25 | jethro | :) |
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| 11:45.28 | vchrizz_work | vulture: yes, but i hate it, when im allowed to work just 7 hours a day, and at home, where ive got enough time, i may not work at it :( |
| 11:45.42 | vulture | vchrizz_work: find some hobbies.. |
| 11:45.50 | vchrizz_work | jethro: yes, company's |
| 11:45.51 | jethro | vchrizz_work: get laid at home and work in the office, that's how life's supposed to be |
| 11:45.53 | vulture | vchrizz_work: or perhaps you could ssh in to the box from outside instead.. |
| 11:45.54 | SiliconViper | vchrizz_work, http://colstrom.whatthefork.org/software/perl/simple-unlogged-shell.pl.txt <-- Something like this, but better. |
| 11:46.14 | vchrizz_work | jethro: that way, life sucks ... i like to work whenever i want |
| 11:46.40 | vchrizz_work | vulture: if i were able to do tht, i wouldnt hide my activities |
| 11:46.43 | cef | vchrizz_work: well you realise that the easiest way to get around that is to never take the files to work till you're almost done, don't you? |
| 11:47.09 | cef | vchrizz_work: that way, you'll only be bringing them INTO the company, not taking them out |
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| 11:47.52 | vchrizz_work | cef: im a type of person which isnt easy to understand... if there is the possibility, why dont use it? as long as i dont do any damage, i think its ok |
| 11:47.57 | toresbe | whoa |
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| 11:48.00 | toresbe | yay ext3 |
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| 11:48.16 | toresbe | I managed to mkfs on the wrong drive |
| 11:48.24 | SiliconViper | vchrizz_work, that's a very limited view of things. |
| 11:48.32 | jethro | vchrizz_work: for questions related to being stealth on a system, please /j the closest script kiddies channel |
| 11:48.38 | toresbe | and still with certain trickery I got my stuff back! With a very few (50%) exceptions |
| 11:49.19 | cef | few = 50% ? .. wow, there's a new definition I've not heard before |
| 11:49.57 | vulture | toresbe: I once got halfway through repartitioning a drive, aborted and found it had just trashed a bunch of javadocs I could download fresh |
| 11:50.03 | vchrizz_work | jethro: ok, lets quit this discussion... i dont want to discuss what every user's actions are "bad" or not |
| 11:50.31 | toresbe | vulture: repartitioning is NOTHING, that's just the table of contents |
| 11:50.38 | toresbe | mkfs.... IS the contents... |
| 11:50.57 | jethro | vchrizz_work: ty |
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| 11:52.04 | vulture | toresbe: depends on the type of fs I suppose, some might lay down a lot of setup info across the disk, I expect most would just munge whatever's at the begining of the partition -but I could be wrong |
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| 11:54.14 | toresbe | vulture: ext3 and most other filesystems not named fat go up down and all around |
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| 11:58.36 | p30n | hmm, i have a 250Gb FAT32 usb-disk and i want to hook it up to my glftpd site, is it hard to get it working? |
| 11:58.52 | vulture | 250GB on a stick?.. |
| 11:59.03 | Rawplayer | nope if you know what todo |
| 11:59.06 | vulture | *shrugs* if it's usb mass storage it's simple enough |
| 11:59.13 | p30n | no its a 250Gb usb hdd |
| 11:59.18 | Cspnico | hi |
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| 11:59.24 | vulture | hotplug and mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /your/mount/point |
| 11:59.31 | Gumby | can anyone here tell me what might control the disabling of an IRQ when I load a module if it isnt the actual module itself |
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| 12:00.22 | p30n | vulture: its ok that its fat32 fs? |
| 12:00.44 | sanso | Gumby, I once had an irq ruled out by the default pcmcia-configuration |
| 12:01.01 | vulture | p30n: suree.. that's the -t vfat bit |
| 12:01.23 | toresbe | puuuuuuuuuuuuh |
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| 12:01.27 | toresbe | most of my files intact |
| 12:01.52 | toresbe | though all my files are now in the lost&found |
| 12:02.09 | Gumby | sanso: well, the module IS yenta_socket... but even if pcmcia and cardmgr are off/stopped when I load the module I still get a kernel messages saying "disabling irq #10" |
| 12:02.34 | netsurfer_peer | hi ppl.. im STILL trying to build a kernel .deb - latest error I got is "dpkg-genchanges: warning: package kernel-uml-2.4.27 in control file but not in files list" - any suggestions ? have I missing packages ? |
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| 12:02.54 | sanso | Gumby, that doesn't seem to be the trouble I had. - sorry.. :-( |
| 12:02.55 | Gumby | sanso: and its not a kernel issue, becuase I have used the exact kernel in two different distros and one has the issue and the other doest |
| 12:03.00 | mos__ | netsurfer_peer: what command are you using to build it? |
| 12:03.03 | Gumby | its mind boggling |
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| 12:03.13 | netsurfer_peer | mos__ make-kpkg --initrd buildpackage |
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| 12:03.42 | mos__ | hmmm..... |
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| 12:04.19 | PerfDave | netsurfer_peer: Any particular reason you're (a) compiling your own kernel and (b) using initrd? |
| 12:04.23 | CapnChron | I got a problem that I could like help. I'm having trouble apt-get install packages - I saw this in SSH it says it's trying to get files from Failed to fetch file:///cdrom/pool/main/p/pam/libpam0g_0.76-22_i386.deb - I was wondering if I have to edit anything like changing the mirror link? |
| 12:05.00 | PerfDave | CapnChron: Have you got the correct CD inserted and mounted? |
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| 12:05.40 | mos__ | netsurfer_peer: you should be fine if you just use this command, you can change the revision number: make-kpkg buildpackage -rev Custom.1 kernel_image |
| 12:05.41 | netsurfer_peer | PerfDave - (a) yes (b) a dude in here told me I had to, if I wanted to include initrd image for boot drivers? I dunno :o\ |
| 12:05.45 | toresbe | My beloved mp3 collection! *hugs* *kisses* |
| 12:06.08 | CapnChron | PerfDave: It's on a dedicated box in the USA and I'm in Australia |
| 12:06.21 | netsurfer_peer | mos__ - will that create a .deb that I can use on other machines ? |
| 12:06.26 | PerfDave | CapnChron: That might be the problem then ;) |
| 12:06.28 | CapnChron | I would like to change the settings so I can get it via the net not via CDROM |
| 12:06.33 | vulture | CapnChron: you might want to setup web sources instead then.. |
| 12:06.34 | mos__ | netsurfer_peer: it will generate 4 debs |
| 12:06.37 | sanso | Gumby, I think I won't be much help there - could only ask You the standard stuff (have You read the README/docs, etc...?) |
| 12:06.39 | PerfDave | CapnChron: You can edit out the CD-ROM repository and just get it off the 'net? |
| 12:06.41 | vulture | CapnChron: so edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:06.43 | sanso | Gumby, good luck! :-) |
| 12:06.46 | CapnChron | ah.. THanks |
| 12:06.47 | PerfDave | !faq CapnChron |
| 12:06.47 | dpkg | CapnChron: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/ |
| 12:06.48 | mos__ | netsurfer_peer: a src a headers a doc and an image |
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| 12:07.07 | Gumby | hehe.. I think my eyes are bleeding i have read so much |
| 12:07.08 | sveglio | hello |
| 12:07.08 | Gumby | :) |
| 12:07.14 | Gumby | thx anyhow |
| 12:07.40 | Gumby | going to try pci=noapic kernel option |
| 12:07.40 | PerfDave | netsurfer_peer: Why do you want to include an initrd? |
| 12:08.07 | sveglio | can someone help me in the installation of Nvidia drivers with Kernel 2.6.10???? |
| 12:08.14 | jethro | !tell sveglio about nvidia |
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| 12:08.41 | PerfDave | sveglio: /msg dpkg nvidia-howto, use module-assistant, it should all just work unless they changed the ABI again. |
| 12:08.48 | paulswm | well, I had a little chat with BlSabbath and I think he's gone off to install debian sarge :) |
| 12:09.03 | p30n | lol, pls answer my noob question, how do i make symlinks? i need to link my usb hdd to my /site/incoming/ folder |
| 12:09.21 | netsurfer_peer | mos__ - thats all I need, and should have no problems installing that kernel on another sarge box with same architecture ? |
| 12:09.23 | paulswm | p30n: ln -s (read man ln) |
| 12:09.25 | Dibbler_ | man ln |
| 12:09.32 | p30n | thx |
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| 12:09.38 | mos__ | netsurfer_peer: none at all |
| 12:09.47 | netsurfer_peer | mos__ - great :) thx |
| 12:09.54 | mos__ | netsurfer_peer: no problem |
| 12:10.06 | netsurfer_peer | PerfDave - a dude last nite told me I had to use --initrd |
| 12:10.06 | sveglio | perfdave: it does not work because there aren't debian pakages for the 2.6.10 version of kernel |
| 12:10.17 | jethro | sveglio: do it yourself |
| 12:10.34 | mos__ | netsurfer_peer: you were mistakenly informed |
| 12:10.38 | PerfDave | sveglio: What debian packages are you talking about? |
| 12:11.16 | tarzeau | moo |
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| 12:11.18 | sveglio | for exemple kernel-image-$(uname -r) |
| 12:11.30 | PerfDave | sveglio: Why do you need a kernel-image package? |
| 12:11.38 | sveglio | jethro: I am a newbie... |
| 12:11.41 | netsurfer_peer | mos__ - heh.. nevermind :) |
| 12:11.45 | tarzeau | dpkg noob |
| 12:11.45 | dpkg | hmm... noob is < greycat> DarkCoiote: When people say "I'm a noob", or the equivalent, it's an EXCUSE for them to be LAZY and avoid doing any thinking or reading. |
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| 12:12.16 | paulswm | crap, I've been found out |
| 12:12.22 | mos__ | lol |
| 12:12.32 | paulswm | <-- !=noob really |
| 12:12.47 | sveglio | perfdave: In many howtos it says that I need it |
| 12:12.48 | ricky_clarkson | newbie is a state of mind. |
| 12:13.07 | PerfDave | sveglio: Have you tried it? |
| 12:13.21 | jethro | sveglio: being a newbie doesn't mean that you can't learn and have to have people do stuff for you |
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| 12:13.37 | jethro | wow I was close to greycat on that one |
| 12:13.56 | PerfDave | sveglio: I don't see that you should require a kernel-image package for 2.6.10 to use module-assistant, provided you've got your kernel source in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.10 or wherever a Debian kernel-source would normally be. |
| 12:14.01 | sveglio | jethro: I am trying it since a week |
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| 12:14.26 | PerfDave | sveglio: If you're a newbie, why are you using a hand-compiled 2.6.10 kernel? |
| 12:14.27 | sveglio | ok I will try.. |
| 12:15.21 | sveglio | perfdave: It was compiled by a friend that installed linux |
| 12:15.59 | PerfDave | sveglio: Then your friend was a fool, unless they had a specific and very good reason to hand-compile a kernel. Using kernel-image packages is much easier. |
| 12:16.22 | netsurfer_peer | mos__ - http://pastebin.ca/5386 :o\ |
| 12:16.24 | sveglio | perfdave: I don't know... |
| 12:16.28 | simonrvn | this > < close in having per user webdav working... *sigh* |
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| 12:17.02 | jethro | sveglio: apt-get install a kernel-image package then get the matching nvidia-* packages for this image and you're set |
| 12:17.08 | simonrvn | yay |
| 12:17.25 | sveglio | jethro: ok I will try it |
| 12:17.30 | PerfDave | jethro: Or apt-get install a kernel-image package and use module-assistant, last I heard the nvidia- precompiled packages were b0rken. |
| 12:17.45 | jethro | PerfDave: I couldn't tell you, I use hand compiled stuff :) |
| 12:17.54 | jethro | too bad he left before you said that |
| 12:18.03 | prad | I thought kernels had to be compiled on the machine ? |
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| 12:18.10 | jethro | prad: that don't have to |
| 12:18.12 | PerfDave | prad: No |
| 12:18.23 | prad | ahhh |
| 12:18.37 | jethro | prad: you can, tho, and optimize stuff, but for the average joe, it's not worth reading the kernel howto and kernel-package docs |
| 12:18.38 | PerfDave | prad: How do you think Debian puts a kernel on your machine without compiling it? There's a kernel-image package on the install CD. |
| 12:18.50 | PerfDave | jethro: You can use optimised kernel-image packages ;) |
| 12:19.04 | prad | I've kept away from upgrading the kernel etc... because I wasn't confident yet |
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| 12:19.09 | jethro | PerfDave: I meant optimized as in "with just what you want enabled" |
| 12:19.13 | jethro | PerfDave: wasn't talking arch |
| 12:19.21 | PerfDave | jethro: Oh. Well, kernel-image packages do that too ;) |
| 12:19.41 | jethro | PerfDave: I don't think so |
| 12:20.04 | jethro | PerfDave: k-i have like everything as module, where I like some stuff inkernel |
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| 12:20.11 | prad | Yeah I thought that was a generic image that is only available for the installtion and after that everything had to be compiled by yourself |
| 12:20.37 | PerfDave | prad: No, there are kernel-image packages |
| 12:20.43 | jethro | PerfDave: and when I say hand compiled kernel, I mean hand made k-i packages |
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| 12:20.45 | prad | is there any docs on doing it with packages and adding modules, I've only seen docs on compiling the kernel |
| 12:20.53 | PerfDave | jethro: They have everything as modules so you only have what you want enabled ;) |
| 12:21.08 | PerfDave | prad: apt-cache search kernel-image; apt-get install kernel-image-$SOMETHING |
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| 12:21.28 | prad | waht about the modules bit ? |
| 12:21.40 | jethro | damn f***ing students willing to eat at the mac donald .. |
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| 12:21.50 | PerfDave | prad: /etc/modules |
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| 12:21.59 | PerfDave | prad: If you're running Sarge, it should all Just Work. |
| 12:22.02 | prad | ahh right |
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| 12:22.25 | CapnChron | I seem to have some problems |
| 12:22.26 | prad | yeah I'm running sarge and have the kernel that came with sarge... |
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| 12:23.37 | CapnChron | I can't seem to install any packages since it says some weird errors. I would cut and paste, but it'll take up about less then 10 lines |
| 12:23.47 | CapnChron | Actually, 4 lines. |
| 12:23.49 | resiak | CapnChron: /join #paste |
| 12:23.51 | nkuttler | CapnChron: well what's the first error? |
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| 12:24.32 | CapnChron | It's 4 lines, I can paste? |
| 12:24.35 | resiak | CapnChron: No. |
| 12:24.46 | resiak | CapnChron: Paste the second line. |
| 12:24.49 | CapnChron | Okay |
| 12:25.03 | CapnChron | libpam-modules: Depends: libpam0g (>= 0.76) but 0.72-35 is to be installed |
| 12:25.24 | CapnChron | and the last line.. |
| 12:25.26 | CapnChron | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). |
| 12:25.34 | resiak | CapnChron: Yeah, we know what the last line will be given the second. |
| 12:25.37 | nkuttler | CapnChron: why don't you do it? |
| 12:25.38 | resiak | CapnChron: Are you on Sid? |
| 12:25.48 | CapnChron | I tried doing apt-get -r install... |
| 12:26.01 | CapnChron | Sid? |
| 12:26.06 | resiak | I'll take that as a no. |
| 12:26.36 | CapnChron | I have no idea, since the box was installed/setup by the hosting company in the USA. |
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| 12:27.12 | nkuttler | CapnChron: /etc/debian_version and do what apt tells you to do |
| 12:27.15 | prad | Hey if am under su -p and do an apt-get and it does not work, do I have to re-download it or did apt save that download somewhere ? |
| 12:27.29 | resiak | prad: It saved it in /var/cache/apt/ |
| 12:28.42 | prad | excellent |
| 12:28.42 | resiak | prad: So if you use apt-get again, it will only download what it doesn't already have. |
| 12:28.42 | prad | ta |
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| 12:28.43 | prad | ahh right ... |
| 12:28.43 | CapnChron | nkuttler: permission denied |
| 12:28.43 | resiak | CapnChron: ...cat it. |
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| 12:28.43 | ricky_clarkson | Unless you clear it with apt-cache clean or apt-cache auto-clean |
| 12:28.43 | CapnChron | 3.1 |
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| 12:28.44 | ricky_clarkson | Or is that apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean? |
| 12:28.44 | ricky_clarkson | Yes, it is. |
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| 12:29.26 | CapnChron | It's v3.1 afaik |
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| 12:30.25 | prad | damn my xine still doesn't have sound :/ |
| 12:30.50 | ricky_clarkson | prad: Does everything else? |
| 12:31.02 | w0wie | recently my debian machine keeps to occassionally turn itself off, how would i find logs maybe stating what is going on, ANY IDEAS? |
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| 12:31.21 | ricky_clarkson | w0wie: Does it do that if you don't boot Debian? |
| 12:31.33 | Smurg | System says /dev/sound (something like that) is not initialised due to no privileges. How do I fix this ? |
| 12:31.35 | prad | yeah it does, I think it is only for wma files... it plays mpeg with sound... I just downloded the w32codecs pack and that didn't fix it |
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| 12:32.06 | w0wie | ricky_clarkson: its just spontaneously shutsdown debian |
| 12:32.20 | Smurg | No sound except occasionally when I log in as root |
| 12:32.23 | ricky_clarkson | w0wie: A real shutdown, or a power off? |
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| 12:32.39 | w0wie | ricky_clarkson: power off |
| 12:32.46 | ricky_clarkson | w0wie: Does it do that if you don't boot Debian? |
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| 12:33.06 | ricky_clarkson | E.g., if you leave it in the BIOS screen, or boot some other OS. |
| 12:33.19 | w0wie | ricky_clarkson: its when debian is running, its all it has |
| 12:33.22 | CapnChron | I ran Apt-get -f install |
| 12:33.27 | CapnChron | for an error :/ |
| 12:33.28 | ricky_clarkson | w0wie: It has no BIOS? |
| 12:33.31 | w0wie | ricky_clarkson: most probably gotta reconfigure stuff in bios |
| 12:33.46 | ricky_clarkson | w0wie: Sounds like a power supply problem, more than a Debian problem. |
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| 12:33.58 | w0wie | ricky_clarkson: ok |
| 12:33.59 | nkuttler | !tell CapnChron abour errors |
| 12:34.12 | nkuttler | !tell CapnChron about errors |
| 12:34.16 | w0wie | ricky_clarkson: do u know why apt-get wouldnt work for me |
| 12:34.35 | ricky_clarkson | w0wie: wayttd and errors? |
| 12:34.54 | possie | anyone that knows a easy to use back/restore util that deals with magnatic tape? |
| 12:35.08 | CapnChron | Says I'm a moron #17 and goes on |
| 12:35.30 | Smurg | How do I chmod my audio device so that everyone other than root can access it |
| 12:36.01 | ricky_clarkson | Smurg: The usual approach is to add everyone other than root to the group "audio", I think. |
| 12:36.24 | Smurg | ricky_clarkson : Can you help please? Newbie. |
| 12:36.25 | nkuttler | CapnChron: don't tell apt about the error... |
| 12:36.33 | prad | possie : I remember seeing something called kdat ? |
| 12:36.44 | nkuttler | Smurg: /msg dpkg audio |
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| 12:37.00 | p30n | i used the mount --bind command to mount a folder on my usb hdd to my /site/incoming/ folder, but as i connect to the server and try to access that folder it gives me [L] 550 archive: Permission denied. |
| 12:37.05 | ricky_clarkson | Smurg: man adduser |
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| 12:37.06 | CapnChron | nkuttler: I've lost the plot. |
| 12:37.24 | prad | possie : I am running KDE and it is under K > System > More Applications > Tape Backup Utility |
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| 12:37.43 | prad | libpng |
| 12:37.46 | prad | oops |
| 12:37.55 | nkuttler | CapnChron: you said apt-get -f install produces an error |
| 12:38.05 | possie | prad: okee, sorry but i needed to mention, non-X11, perhaps a nice curses tool |
| 12:38.17 | CapnChron | Yes. That's correct. |
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| 12:38.31 | Smurg | ricky_clarkson : Any way to add current users to audio group? |
| 12:38.36 | prad | ahh ok... no idea then :/ |
| 12:38.38 | ricky_clarkson | Smurg: man adduser |
| 12:38.44 | takatumi | possie: looked at amanda? |
| 12:38.56 | possie | takatumi: no i haven't let me look at it |
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| 12:39.27 | netsurfer_peer | can I turn my main debian box into an apt server? so I dont have to apt-get stuff and download it like 3 times for my 3 boxes |
| 12:39.47 | PerfDave | netsurfer_peer: Yes, look at apt-proxy |
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| 12:39.57 | netsurfer_peer | k |
| 12:39.58 | feistel | hi |
| 12:40.04 | feistel | i am newbie in debian |
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| 12:40.41 | feistel | how I can see my debian branch? |
| 12:40.53 | PerfDave | feistel: What did you install? |
| 12:40.56 | PerfDave | !faq feistel |
| 12:40.56 | dpkg | feistel: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/ |
| 12:41.03 | feistel | ok thanks |
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| 12:41.35 | ricky_clarkson | thomas_a1am: Your nick is corrup13d. |
| 12:41.37 | feistel | !faq feistel |
| 12:41.37 | dpkg | feistel: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/ |
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| 12:44.29 | pingouin | what to use to convert an simple text file to .ps (postscript ?) or pdf file ? in command line |
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| 12:44.50 | feistel | my problem is: tar and ls say: Segmentation fault |
| 12:44.58 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: strace |
| 12:45.03 | feistel | k |
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| 12:46.14 | p30n | i used the mount --bind command to mount a folder on my usb hdd to my /site/incoming/ folder, but as i connect to the server and try to access that folder it gives me [L] 550 archive: Permission denied. |
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| 12:47.02 | Smurg | How do I change permissions of a file from root ? I dont understand the chmod man pages? If I have to change /dev/hda10 so that others can read/write/exec..what do I do ? |
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| 12:47.09 | nkuttler | pingouin: apt-cache search convert postscript |
| 12:47.12 | christor | Hello need help to configure a postfix with smarthost |
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| 12:47.29 | christor | I have some problem to send mail ( Sender address rejected: Domain not found (in reply to RCPT TO command))) Someone has an idea? |
| 12:47.42 | ricky_clarkson | Smurg: You don't touch /dev/hda10's permissions, you set up a line in /etc/fstab, usually. |
| 12:47.48 | ricky_clarkson | Smurg: man 5 fstab |
| 12:48.08 | mooded | christor, means the domain you want to send mail to cant be found.. pretty obvious isnt it ? :) |
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| 12:48.50 | prad | hey where can i find sites to add to source.list of apt ? the one that I had ftp.monash.edu.au is pinging out I need additional ones for sarge |
| 12:49.05 | PerfDave | prad: apt-setup |
| 12:49.15 | PerfDave | prad: Or look at the mirrors list on http://www.debian.org/ |
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| 12:49.43 | takatumi | or try apt-spy |
| 12:50.05 | prad | PerfDave : yeah I had a check on debian.org and apt-get.org, apt-get.org had third party or unofficial sites |
| 12:50.19 | christor | mooded: I am in the provider free.fr and I m trying to send mail via this provider. I don't know if the hostname should be lns-th2-4f-81-56-216-117.adsl.proxad.net or other.. |
| 12:50.26 | masotti | in debian sarge come si fa a cambiare il dektop manager di default |
| 12:50.32 | masotti | ? |
| 12:50.35 | paulswm | !it |
| 12:50.35 | dpkg | italian is probably per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it, (anche /j #linux-it). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 12:50.43 | christor | lol |
| 12:50.56 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | hola |
| 12:50.57 | prad | I'll keep looking in debian.org |
| 12:51.03 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | hi |
| 12:51.09 | feistel | how I can see is my debian is stable or not? |
| 12:51.10 | christor | masotti: La je sais pas quoi te dire car ton erreur semble dur a avaler |
| 12:51.13 | mooded | christor, the domain must be a fqdn that you can mail to it.. (or ip) .. |
| 12:51.31 | christor | mooded: ok I try with my IP address |
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| 12:51.42 | PerfDave | prad: /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 12:51.47 | mooded | christor, is there a postfix listening on your ip ?? |
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| 12:51.55 | prad | ta perfdave |
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| 12:52.03 | prad | msg dpkg mirrors |
| 12:52.43 | speakman | anyone knows why my filesystem is almost locked up when jigdo is writing to image?? |
| 12:52.53 | mooded | christor, local testing is kinda senseless.. (it must work from outside, (relaying mails only when authed), to any other domain..).. anyways, im away. goodluck.. |
| 12:52.53 | speakman | 'ls' is taking about 10-20 sec each time |
| 12:52.54 | PerfDave | speakman: "almost locked up"? |
| 12:52.55 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | where i can find sources.list? |
| 12:53.01 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | please |
| 12:53.07 | PerfDave | !wayttd k4vU_Ph4n4tIc |
| 12:53.08 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, k4vU_Ph4n4tIc? |
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| 12:53.24 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | i'm triying to update debian sid |
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| 12:53.45 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | but it says me not such file or directory |
| 12:53.48 | speakman | PerfDave: what do you think? |
| 12:53.56 | paulswm | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc: /etc/apt |
| 12:54.04 | ricky_clarkson | speakman: That's a dangerous question. |
| 12:54.11 | speakman | ricky_clarkson: dangerous..?! |
| 12:54.12 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | aha, but this sources.list was modified by me |
| 12:54.14 | PerfDave | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc: What says "no such file or directory"? Why are you running Sid? |
| 12:54.21 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | yes |
| 12:54.23 | speakman | I feel my system ain't safe ..) |
| 12:54.25 | PerfDave | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc: /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 12:54.36 | paulswm | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc: If you don't know where sources.list is, you definitely shouldn't be running sid :( |
| 12:54.45 | PerfDave | speakman: It's probably taking a long time because jigdo is writing to your disk. Do you have DMA enabled on the drive? |
| 12:55.00 | ricky_clarkson | speakman: I've seen his picture, and I don't think asking him about his thoughts is a good idea. Just kidding. |
| 12:55.11 | paulswm | feistel: which version did you install? |
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| 12:55.26 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | jeje |
| 12:55.28 | PerfDave | feistel: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 12:55.31 | feistel | paulswm, i am working in a server installed by another person |
| 12:55.50 | feistel | PerfDave, say: 3.0 |
| 12:55.52 | paulswm | feistel: what does 'cat /etc/debian_version' say |
| 12:55.57 | PerfDave | feistel: Then you're running Woody |
| 12:56.04 | paulswm | feistel: woody |
| 12:56.10 | PerfDave | feistel: /msg dpkg releases |
| 12:56.10 | feistel | Woody=stable? |
| 12:56.14 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: Yes. |
| 12:56.19 | ricky_clarkson | At the moment. |
| 12:56.19 | paulswm | feistel: yes |
| 12:56.31 | paulswm | fuck, I'm somebody else's echo |
| 12:56.44 | ricky_clarkson | I'm an old man. |
| 12:56.48 | ricky_clarkson | From Wales. |
| 12:57.11 | paulswm | !beat ricky_clarkson for taking the piss out of geezers |
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| 12:57.34 | ricky_clarkson | paulswm: I don't want to know if you've got a large stick, but keep it away from me anyway. |
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| 12:57.44 | Smurg | !is bored |
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| 12:57.48 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | okok, i edit the sources.list, but maybe be wrong, sorry but i'm spanish and my english lvl is very low |
| 12:58.04 | ricky_clarkson | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc: #debian-es |
| 12:58.10 | Smurg | k4vu_Ph4n4tic : Figures from your nick-name |
| 12:58.12 | paulswm | !es |
| 12:58.12 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:58.13 | Smurg | :) |
| 12:58.16 | aum | to whoever worked on the new debian installer - nice job guys, /very/ nice :) |
| 12:58.26 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, i am dont have strace |
| 12:58.32 | ricky_clarkson | aum: None of us afaik - try email or #debian-boot |
| 12:58.33 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | thanks!!! |
| 12:58.36 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: install it |
| 12:58.37 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | :D |
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| 12:58.56 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, tar is not working, segmentation fault |
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| 12:59.06 | k4vU_Ph4n4tIc | quit |
| 12:59.07 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: So? |
| 12:59.08 | tux4president | hello |
| 12:59.14 | Smurg | feistel : fsck as root |
| 12:59.18 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: Do you enjoy repeating yourself? |
| 12:59.30 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, how i can install then? |
| 12:59.43 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: apt-get |
| 12:59.50 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, apt-get use tar |
| 12:59.56 | ricky_clarkson | It uses ar |
| 13:00.11 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: Does apt-get segfault too? |
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| 13:00.18 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, dpkg-deb: subprocess tar killed by signal (Segmentation fault) |
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| 13:00.19 | Smurg | anyone here who prefers aptitude to synaptic ? |
| 13:00.38 | mooded | everyone without x-server i guess |
| 13:00.41 | CapnChron | I have trouble with apt-get and If I log off SSH - I'll never get back on since ssh is not on it anymore thanks to apt-get -f install :( |
| 13:00.45 | directhex|work | Smurg, i use aptitude on the command line rather than apt-get if that counts |
| 13:00.48 | caphuso | ricky_clarkson: and in that ar are a control.tar.gz and a data.tar.gz |
| 13:01.03 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: Maybe you could install it manually somehow. Above my head a bit. |
| 13:01.07 | paulswm | Smurg: you shouldn't do polls here, but I prefer using command-line aptitude |
| 13:01.09 | simonrvn | mooded: even with x |
| 13:01.35 | mooded | simonrvn, matter of taste :) |
| 13:01.39 | simonrvn | matter of practicality |
| 13:01.40 | Smurg | directhex|work : Well I have KDE and I still prefer aptitude...dunno why ..paulswm : I was just checking if I alone was psycho or if there are people like me too |
| 13:02.09 | mooded | simonrvn, id agree, but i know ppl definitely not sharing my opinion.. |
| 13:02.14 | paulswm | Smurg: you could be psycho and there'd still prolly be people in here like you :D |
| 13:02.36 | CapnChron | Somethings causing errors with unmet dependencies |
| 13:02.49 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, how? .deb are tarballs, how i can extract tar binary from them? |
| 13:03.03 | Smurg | paulswm : I found many . (more than many : PLENTY) |
| 13:03.09 | paulswm | heh |
| 13:03.23 | Smurg | paulswm : Those who reply to my polls are similar :D |
| 13:03.23 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: I don't know. |
| 13:03.34 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: apt-cache search tar - perhaps |
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| 13:04.41 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, ok, thanks |
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| 13:06.00 | penta | good program to viw logs other tail -n 1000 /var/log/message | less |
| 13:06.27 | paulswm | Question: I need to do a sarge install on a wireless laptop, is ndiswrapper on the sarge netinst iso? |
| 13:06.27 | psywar | anyone know of a program like cpp but works on stuff other than C? m4 is close but not quite what I want. |
| 13:06.57 | nkuttler | CapnChron: paste your sources.list in #flood |
| 13:07.15 | DaFresh_ | anyone here have ever use ultramonkey ? |
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| 13:07.29 | Xemacs_ | psywar, cons is a makefile replacement written in perl |
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| 13:07.52 | psywar | hmm |
| 13:08.09 | psywar | what I want is to conditionally include lines based on what machine I'm going to copy them to |
| 13:08.43 | psywar | so some machines get line 1, others get line 2, etc. |
| 13:08.44 | CapnChron | ok |
| 13:09.06 | tux4president05 | msg/ NickServ <command> |
| 13:09.08 | psywar | cpp barfs on #-delimited comments |
| 13:09.17 | tux4president05 | hello |
| 13:09.34 | caphuso | psywar: write a perl 10 liner |
| 13:09.41 | tux4president05 | redduck you there |
| 13:09.58 | psywar | yeah probably that would work |
| 13:11.01 | nkuttler | CapnChron: you said /etc/debian_version says 3.1, right? |
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| 13:12.58 | tux4president05 | hello room |
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| 13:13.30 | ricky_clarkson | !room |
| 13:13.31 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 13:13.33 | paulswm | *sigh* |
| 13:13.44 | tux4president05 | hello rick |
| 13:13.47 | resiak | CapnChron: Change stable for testing. |
| 13:13.52 | ricky_clarkson | Hello tu |
| 13:14.00 | resiak | CapnChron: You're already on Sarge, so you should have testing sources. |
| 13:14.02 | ricky_clarkson | Arbitrary nick-shortening day? |
| 13:14.15 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, strace with tar stop in: _sysctl({{CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION}, 2, 0xbffff6b4, 31, (nil), 0}) = 0 |
| 13:14.15 | feistel | clock_gettime(0, <unfinished ...> |
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| 13:14.31 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: Anything useful before that? |
| 13:14.48 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: does date work? |
| 13:15.12 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: Isn't that a national condition? |
| 13:15.12 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, yes |
| 13:15.31 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, the problem is the clock_getime syscall |
| 13:15.40 | jethro | ricky_clarkson: what do you mean? |
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| 13:15.43 | ricky_clarkson | feistel: Wouldn't date call that though? |
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| 13:15.48 | jethro | ricky_clarkson: that all french people eat too much? |
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| 13:16.14 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: Too much garlic, yeah :) |
| 13:16.19 | jethro | heh |
| 13:16.39 | simonrvn | clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1107782122, 422080000}) = 0 # strace date, for kicks |
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| 13:17.08 | feistel | ricky_clarkson, no, date don't use clock_gettime syscall |
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| 13:17.21 | simonrvn | yes it does ^^^ |
| 13:18.32 | leggolaas | greetings debians |
| 13:18.55 | nkuttler | CapnChron: make that s/stable/sarge/ so you won't upgrade to testing later |
| 13:19.08 | resiak | leggolaas: I just _told_ you that Ubuntu is offtopic here. |
| 13:19.13 | netsurfer_peer | PerfDave - u here? |
| 13:19.27 | leggolaas | resiak: :) |
| 13:19.35 | resiak | leggolaas: No, seriously. |
| 13:19.52 | leggolaas | resiak: point taken :) |
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| 13:20.58 | CapnChron | I've changed testing to sarge |
| 13:21.00 | leggolaas | please dont shoot I am a civilian |
| 13:21.06 | CapnChron | Now I got some weird problems |
| 13:21.31 | leggolaas | I just want to ask a ndiswrapper question , if anyone cares to reply :) |
| 13:21.33 | nkuttler | CapnChron: 1. apt-get update. |
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| 13:22.12 | resiak | leggolaas: I really am serious. |
| 13:22.52 | leggolaas | resiak: lol |
| 13:23.05 | jethro | leggolaas: /j ndiswrapper |
| 13:23.10 | leggolaas | resiak: you were mate :) |
| 13:23.14 | chealer | !lol |
| 13:23.15 | dpkg | methinks lol is Loser On Line, good work, you've just added your name to the ever-growing #debian LOL List. |
| 13:23.19 | CapnChron | nkuttler: did that.. then ran apt-get upgrade. But get same errors (unmet dependiences) |
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| 13:23.34 | resiak | CapnChron: apt-get remove the package that's causing the problem, then you should be okay. |
| 13:23.39 | paulswm | leggolaas: go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/, install debian sarge, come back and ask question :) |
| 13:23.57 | CapnChron | ok |
| 13:23.58 | svente | Hi folks, I have a problem nobody on debian-amd64 cvould help with. |
| 13:24.04 | CapnChron | good luck to me |
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| 13:24.16 | takatumi | resiak: why not dist-upgrade? |
| 13:24.30 | resiak | takatumi: Uh, point. |
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| 13:24.50 | svente | I just installed the (inofficial beta really bleeding edge) debian-amd64 and k3b and kphone start up, but they don't accept any keyboard or mouse events. |
| 13:25.02 | paulswm | CapnChron: ^^^ |
| 13:25.05 | azreal | leggolaas: go to a ubuntu channel, there supposed to be humane to others. |
| 13:25.19 | svente | It might be an amd64 problem, but probably someone can help me |
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| 13:25.32 | leggolaas | paulswm: I have sarge already mate |
| 13:25.32 | directhex|work | svente, no problem here |
| 13:26.06 | svente | Means that you don't have any problem there on amd64 with k3b? |
| 13:26.15 | directhex|work | svente, exactly that |
| 13:26.15 | resiak | azreal: I told him not to come in here. |
| 13:26.17 | leggolaas | azreal: shukran my dear friend |
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| 13:26.38 | svente | Mayxbe I missed a lib? Kernel is a selfcompiled 2.6.10, the non-root-Problems I'm familiar with |
| 13:26.45 | ircdevil | print trouble shooting help wanted: printing stopped working, and i did nothing. cups shows jobs as pending. network printer works from winblows machines. |
| 13:27.04 | CapnChron | Still getting errors :( Even tried to apt-get remove packages as well |
| 13:27.05 | leggolaas | resiak: Its all cool mate |
| 13:27.08 | resiak | leggolaas: Well, I've now directly offered you help three times on the correct channel, and you've just ignored me, so that offer is now closed. |
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| 13:27.41 | svente | directhex|work, do I need some special modules (ide-cd?) for k3b to work? I don't get any error messages, only warnings about missing mimetypes |
| 13:27.55 | paulswm | !win resiak |
| 13:27.55 | dpkg | Congratulations, resiak! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 13:27.59 | azreal | resiak: why do people come to #debian for ubuntu help, when they are supposed to be offering the same support on there own damn channel? |
| 13:28.02 | directhex|work | svente, i've not needed any. justworks(tm) |
| 13:28.03 | Nenillo | hi |
| 13:28.09 | leggolaas | resiak: I have been writing to you there mate :) |
| 13:28.13 | Nenillo | how can I watch an active console "tty3" for example from a ssh session? |
| 13:28.29 | nkuttler | CapnChron: what does apt-get -f install do now? |
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| 13:28.47 | svente | Can you check if some of the ide-modules are loaded? But then xcdroast wouldn't work (means cdrecord) |
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| 13:28.54 | feistel | how I can know where a syscall is allocated (in the kernel, in a module or in the a shared library) |
| 13:29.01 | resiak | Nenillo: apt-get install screen; man screen; |
| 13:29.17 | svente | MAybe I try another installation.... |
| 13:29.18 | ircdevil | print error message found under cups printer menu: "Unable to connect to printer (retrying in 30 seconds): Connection timed out" <- now, how to find where the connection is blown? |
| 13:29.24 | PerfDave | Nenillo: screen; ttysnoop |
| 13:29.31 | leggolaas | resiak: dude why did you ignore me ? |
| 13:29.37 | Nenillo | ok thx |
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| 13:30.29 | resiak | leggolaas: You have said _nothing_ to me. I've lastlogged you and everything. |
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| 13:30.35 | sepski | ircdevil, ircdevil we can speculate, but it would be a lot easier if you say how the printer is connected. usb/paralell/network ? |
| 13:30.36 | takatumi | CapnChron: you should be doing apt-get dist-upgrade if you haven't. |
| 13:30.52 | ircdevil | sepski: i did |
| 13:30.53 | CapnChron | I did... |
| 13:31.00 | svente | directhex|work, do you know what the openoffice.org packages on http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/openoffice.org/ are good for? Are these amd64-Ports? Becaus I couldn't install them. |
| 13:31.14 | sepski | ircdevil, sorry then, i just joined :) |
| 13:31.23 | leggolaas | resiak: :) I will see you back there mate |
| 13:31.24 | CapnChron | takatumi: I get errors :( |
| 13:31.29 | directhex|work | svente, i think they're a work in progress. use a sarge 32 bit chroot for openoffice. |
| 13:31.31 | ircdevil | sepski: <ircdevil> print trouble shooting help wanted: printing stopped working, and i did nothing. cups shows jobs as pending. network printer works from winblows machines. |
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| 13:31.39 | DeadZed | how do I make incremental backups with tar loacally on a harddrive? |
| 13:31.54 | svente | Did that, but I didn't get any buttons |
| 13:32.12 | directhex|work | svente, worksforme |
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| 13:32.37 | sepski | ircdevil, i'v seen that when a gs prosess was hanging , try top or ps aux look for gs processname, kill it |
| 13:32.43 | website | how can i say to grep to show arg1 AND arg2? |
| 13:32.54 | PerfDave | website: grep | grep |
| 13:32.54 | svente | With the howto from alioth? Maybe I'm just too stupid. |
| 13:33.04 | jim | website: what does man grep say? |
| 13:33.19 | svente | directhex|work, did you install any special libs in the changeroot? What about the locales? |
| 13:33.22 | paulswm | DeadZed: 'info tar' will help you with learning tar |
| 13:33.29 | ircdevil | sepski: none - i will recheck wires and stuff. |
| 13:33.38 | DeadZed | paulswm it wont |
| 13:33.50 | DeadZed | Ive read it |
| 13:34.07 | sepski | ircdevil, disnt you say it worked from windows ? |
| 13:34.10 | directhex|work | svente, anything that seemed to moan, i installed. locales was probably one of them |
| 13:34.14 | jim | DeadZed: is it the exact same as the man page? |
| 13:34.35 | DeadZed | no , info is slightly different |
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| 13:34.53 | jim | if so, you don't have the info page installed, and the info cmd is pulling from the man page |
| 13:35.05 | ircdevil | sepski: i will recheck |
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| 13:35.20 | paulswm | DeadZed: google. I just googled for: tar incremental backup OR backups : and I found a bunch of stuff |
| 13:35.22 | DeadZed | I jsut need a simple tar command to back up and then do incrementals |
| 13:35.23 | svente | Okay, I will try my luck with a new installation then. Maybe that helps. Sadly I really need my own kernel because of crypted fs. |
| 13:35.25 | nkuttler | website: grep -E |
| 13:35.38 | jm_ | it's only slightly different yes, the hell it is - it has shitloads of info, including the info about making incremental backups |
| 13:35.40 | svente | Thanks for the answers |
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| 13:35.57 | CapnChron | I keep getting errors with unmet dependiences for libpam and so on |
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| 13:36.01 | DeadZed | paulswm what about those tar scripts in google , how do I use those |
| 13:36.13 | jim | jm_: then he has the man page and not the info page |
| 13:36.28 | nkuttler | CapnChron: did you ever install new packages on the box? or did you get errors from the start? |
| 13:36.56 | paulswm | DeadZed: sorry, haven't the time to give an online tutorial, info tar and google should give you what you need to know |
| 13:37.02 | jim | and, from the start of what/ |
| 13:37.04 | CapnChron | nkuttler: tried to install proftpd and got the errors at start |
| 13:37.20 | CapnChron | been getting errors since. |
| 13:37.26 | nkuttler | CapnChron: and now you have sarge in your sources.list... so i'd say ask the hosting company |
| 13:37.32 | ricky_clarkson | !seen thomas_a1am |
| 13:37.33 | dpkg | thomas_a1am is currently on #debian (17h 14m 35s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 67d 1h 6m 9s |
| 13:37.34 | jim | are you trying to mix sid and sarge or woody and sarge? |
| 13:37.46 | ricky_clarkson | !seen thomas_adam |
| 13:37.46 | dpkg | thomas_adam <~n6tadam@host81-153-254-13.range81-153.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 4d 17h 2m 50s ago, saying: 'lewis: You might want to reinstall login(1).'. |
| 13:37.46 | nkuttler | CapnChron: maybe they install some custom packages or something |
| 13:37.54 | website | nkuttler, yes but it doesn't work look at : http://pastebin.ca/5387 |
| 13:37.56 | CapnChron | Okay... |
| 13:38.07 | CapnChron | I'll have to shoot the company. |
| 13:38.07 | nkuttler | website: what command did you use? |
| 13:38.16 | website | PerfDave, please look at http://pastebin.ca/5387 |
| 13:38.22 | CapnChron | jim: was that directed at me? |
| 13:38.39 | jim | yes :) |
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| 13:38.42 | website | nkuttler, less /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -v '#' | grep -A 1 Depth |
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| 13:39.03 | nkuttler | website: and what do you want to see? |
| 13:39.28 | website | nkuttler, read at the bottom of the posted page |
| 13:39.29 | PerfDave | website: Hmm, you can't do that with grep. |
| 13:39.40 | website | PerfDave, can i do that with sed? |
| 13:39.44 | website | or something like that? |
| 13:39.45 | CapnChron | jim: at first I came here because I had trouble trying to fetch files from the CDROM. So I asked how to edit the sources.list and still get errors. |
| 13:39.58 | PerfDave | website: Not as far as I know. I think sed works on a line-by-line basis. |
| 13:40.04 | orfeu | where i find gtk-config in witch deb ? |
| 13:40.14 | PerfDave | website: BTW, if you're using Ubuntu, you should be asking on #ubuntu, not #debian ;) |
| 13:40.15 | website | PerfDave, nkuttler i know depth |
| 13:40.20 | jm_ | orfeu: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:40.21 | jim | ok, so the stuff on the cd and the stuff you can download might be a mixture |
| 13:40.22 | greycat | orfeu: libgtk1.2-dev |
| 13:40.27 | website | PerfDave, it is not ubuntu or debian specific |
| 13:40.35 | website | :-) |
| 13:40.35 | greycat | orfeu: that's your one breast-feeding for today. From now on, /msg dpkg search and /msg dpkg faq. |
| 13:40.40 | PerfDave | website: So ask on #regexp or #regex (can never remember what it's called) |
| 13:40.40 | jim | (and that can work, and could be, not work |
| 13:40.49 | website | PerfDave, ok |
| 13:40.52 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Only one nipple? |
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| 13:41.06 | CapnChron | okay... I'll leave it to the hosting company. |
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| 13:41.17 | CapnChron | Thanks for all the help provided. |
| 13:41.27 | CapnChron | I'm off to have a whinge |
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| 13:41.48 | jim | welcome... but you should try to determine why the dep errors are happeniong |
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| 13:42.18 | CapnChron | I'm probs better off running redhat though :P |
| 13:42.26 | jim | maybe |
| 13:42.32 | streuner_ | ricky_clarkson: I see, you prefer stereo? ;-) |
| 13:42.36 | jim | that's your choice :) |
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| 13:43.31 | streuner_ | apt, test |
| 13:43.32 | apt | Failed |
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| 13:43.44 | jim | but I would imagine that if redhat were presented with sets of packages from two different and incompatible sources, it would respond similarly |
| 13:43.51 | DeadZed | paulswm well, I did tar -zcvpf /mnt/hdd11/backup/debian.hdd8.tar.gz --directory / --exclude=/mnt ... it didnt work |
| 13:43.57 | Smurg | I want some partitions to be mounted when I start Debian..How do I do this ? |
| 13:44.15 | jim | edit /etc/fstab |
| 13:44.17 | PerfDave | website: This seems to work - just change the '$depth=24' bit to the depth you want: perl -e '$depth=24;' -nle 'print if ( defined $lastline && $lastline =~ m/Depth\s+$depth/ ); $lastline = $_' xorg.conf |
| 13:44.36 | PerfDave | Nobody's better off running Deadrat ;) |
| 13:44.41 | Smurg | jim : I did that, but when I make a new device in kde it says that the device has been mounted but it has no Dev = ...entry |
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| 13:45.01 | jim | I don't understand that reference... |
| 13:45.12 | jim | what's dev=? |
| 13:45.15 | greycat | you... make... a *device*... in ... KDE?!? |
| 13:45.21 | paulswm | aaargh |
| 13:45.28 | Smurg | Juts a link to the already mounted device |
| 13:45.39 | directhex|work | it's reasonable for some devices, such as pppX |
| 13:45.40 | website | uhm thabnks PerfDave but it should be included in a sh script.... |
| 13:45.42 | greycat | Please, please, someone just fucking KILL all the GUI developers. |
| 13:45.57 | greycat | directhex|work: ppp0 is an interface, not a device |
| 13:46.01 | jim | you definitely don't need that, and probably shouldn't have that. |
| 13:46.04 | Phated | Uh-oh... greycat's mad... |
| 13:46.07 | PerfDave | website: Well, how were you going to do it with sed? |
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| 13:46.18 | paulswm | Phated: like that's news, heh |
| 13:46.21 | Smurg | ok this is how i put it in etc/fstab ------ > /dev/hda10 mountpoint -> /mnt/hda10 dump=0 |
| 13:46.30 | Phated | paulswm: No see now he's -shouting-. 's bad. |
| 13:46.34 | greycat | Smurg: that is not valid syntax for fstab(5). |
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| 13:46.52 | Smurg | greycat :I didnt type syntax |
| 13:47.04 | greycat | Smurg: well that was stupid, wasn't it? |
| 13:47.15 | Smurg | greycat : Of whom? |
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| 13:47.17 | website | PerfDave, i thought that if i can isolate Depth $value and line above i've completed |
| 13:47.20 | greycat | *PLONK* |
| 13:47.21 | jim | Smurg: the info you posted is the info fstab needs, but not in the right form... you can look at man 5 fstab |
| 13:47.35 | Smurg | jim : Well, here goes |
| 13:47.45 | PerfDave | website: I'm not sure what you're getting at, sorry. |
| 13:47.51 | scarynetworkguy | A/aw |
| 13:47.57 | jim | and that will show the correct form for fstab lines |
| 13:48.06 | website | PerfDave, thanks |
| 13:48.19 | directhex|work | greycat, okay, it's reasonable for kde to link /dev/modem to /dev/ttXXXXX if requested. |
| 13:48.27 | Smurg | THIS IS HOW I PUT IT : /dev/hda10 /mnt/hda10 ntfs defaults 0 2 |
| 13:48.36 | greycat | directhex|work: but that would require root privileges, in order to modify /dev |
| 13:48.57 | jim | directhex|work: actually, if you do that, it interferes with locking of devices |
| 13:49.00 | azreal | Smurg: and? |
| 13:49.00 | nkuttler | greycat: kde as some sudo gui where you give it the root password... |
| 13:49.08 | nkuttler | su even |
| 13:49.13 | jim | and I don't remember how it does that... |
| 13:49.16 | greycat | and really, why would the definition for "the primary modem" ever change, and why would a GUI desktop thingy need to fuck with it? |
| 13:49.40 | Smurg | azreal : and then KDE cannot access it |
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| 13:49.52 | greycat | jim: because if process A opens /dev/ttyS0 and sets a lock, and process B opens /dev/modem and asks whether it's locked, it won't see the lock that was set on ttyS0 |
| 13:49.54 | azreal | Smurg: is it really mounted? |
| 13:50.07 | jim | ahh, simple enough |
| 13:50.12 | Smurg | azreal : yeah |
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| 13:50.43 | Ashtars_fanclub | how can i rebuild my alsa driver? |
| 13:50.45 | jim | the other part I remember is that is more important for multi-user use of the shared modem |
| 13:50.48 | Daffy-PKF | lo |
| 13:51.05 | streuner_ | Ashtars_fanclub: ALSA modules in the kernel itself? |
| 13:51.12 | azreal | Smurg: btw, you can lose the 2, you dont need to fsck a nfs volume |
| 13:51.13 | jim | Ashtars_fanclub: in 2.6+, just rebuild kernel |
| 13:51.47 | azreal | Smurg: well, can you access it manually? |
| 13:52.01 | Smurg | azreal: well,it mounts only in Readonly mode |
| 13:52.24 | jim | that could be fixed in the fstab, or can it? |
| 13:52.33 | azreal | Smurg: you should be able to read it then, either manually, or with other tools |
| 13:52.40 | jim | what kind of fs is it/ |
| 13:52.41 | jim | ? |
| 13:52.41 | Smurg | azreal : Yes I can read it |
| 13:52.44 | Smurg | jim : NTFS |
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| 13:53.02 | Ashtars_fanclub | no i'm absolutely not rebuilding kernel :) |
| 13:53.02 | Smurg | azreal : I mounted it manually now |
| 13:53.06 | jim | ohh, writing ntfs from linux is quite experimental |
| 13:53.17 | Smurg | azreal : But after reboot it says cannot find dev = ... entry (in KDE) |
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| 13:53.40 | azreal | Smurg: try something like this: fserver:/ /nfs nfs rw 0 0 |
| 13:53.45 | jim | you might not want linux writing it... you could be quite sorry, and looking for the backup you did earlier the same day... |
| 13:53.55 | greycat | he exported the *ROOT* directory of a box over NFS?? |
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| 13:54.08 | Guest26105 | hi, is there a way to change the firewall rules if my IDS detects sometihing (snort)? |
| 13:54.11 | Smurg | greycat : no |
| 13:54.15 | jim | wait wait... |
| 13:54.17 | PerfDave | azreal: Are you mistaking NFS for NTFS? |
| 13:54.20 | jim | nfs? ntfs? |
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| 13:54.27 | Smurg | jim : NTFS |
| 13:54.31 | azreal | PerfDave: eh? |
| 13:54.34 | Smurg | jim : Windows NT File System |
| 13:54.40 | jim | you might not want linux writing it... you could be quite sorry, and looking for the backup you did earlier the same day... |
| 13:54.45 | PerfDave | azreal: You're talking about NFS, Smurg is trying to mount an NTFS volume |
| 13:54.57 | Smurg | jim : you were there too? cool..anyways I found the /usr and fixed it |
| 13:55.00 | jim | oh :) 2 different people :) |
| 13:55.01 | azreal | PerfDave: no, thats from my fstab, im not useing it currently, its commented out, but it works fine. |
| 13:55.05 | directhex|work | jim, you can edit existing files over 1k, without changing their size, and with a full chkdsk run by windows on next boot. anything else, you hose the filesystem |
| 13:55.21 | Smurg | jim : Does Linux write properly to a Fat32 system? |
| 13:55.25 | PerfDave | azreal: Yes, but that's for an NFS partition, not an NTFS parition ;) |
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| 13:55.31 | jim | hmm :) that's useful :) |
| 13:55.42 | poseur | what happened to kernel.org's debian mirror? |
| 13:55.45 | azreal | PerfDave: doh |
| 13:55.56 | azreal | Smurg: sorry, im blind |
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| 13:56.32 | azreal | PerfDave: i thought i read nfs, i guess i should have my eyes checked again |
| 13:57.07 | PerfDave | Smurg: Linux has no real NTFS writing support to speak of, because the NTFS specs are sekrit and patented to all hell. Don't use NTFS :) |
| 13:57.09 | jim | Smurg: not sure, but I think yes |
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| 13:57.46 | resiak | Smurg: Yes, it does write fine to FAT32 |
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| 13:58.07 | azreal | Smurg: actually, there is partial write support, but dont use it, because data loss is inevitable. it will hose the whole fs. |
| 13:58.43 | resiak | azreal: Not the whole filesystem. Bits of the partition still worked after last time I tried ;) |
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| 13:59.53 | caphuso | the new NTFS driver can write without destroying things, but... |
| 14:00.16 | jim | I sense a "but" at the end of that! |
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| 14:00.41 | greycat | most things end with a butt... |
| 14:00.52 | prad | I was talking about this sometime ago and I was told to check Captive NTFS |
| 14:01.06 | caphuso | well, it's incredibly useless because you can only overwrite already existing files, and even that only if you don't change their size |
| 14:01.07 | Daffy-PKF | since the last dist-upgrade (sid) i can't use shift-anything combination under x-window, my XF86Config-4 is ok, does someone know where is the problem please ? |
| 14:01.13 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Or a tail. |
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| 14:01.52 | jim | caphuso: ahh, ok... that was mentioned |
| 14:02.34 | jim | Daffy-PKF: probably need to know what shift combinations did what |
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| 14:04.09 | caphuso | that means you can do something silly like putting a vfat image on NTFS, loop mount it and share your data that way, assuming you manage to get it loop mounted in windows too. don't know if you can do that |
| 14:05.04 | azreal | caphuso: thats about as useless as only being able to create files that are zero lines. |
| 14:05.05 | greycat | or... you could just put the NTFS disk in a Windows box and share it over SMB. |
| 14:05.20 | Daffy-PKF | jim> what do you mean ? i wanted to say that before i was able to do shift+',' for a '?' and now i have to copy-paste the '?' to be able to use it... '/', '.', 'A', 'B'... all shift-something doesn't work anymore |
| 14:05.35 | PerfDave | Daffy-PKF: Did you check the BTS? |
| 14:05.36 | greycat | Daffy-PKF: /msg dpkg keymap |
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| 14:05.45 | MotorWRK | ficken ? |
| 14:05.52 | jethro | Daffy-PKF: on x ? |
| 14:05.59 | Daffy-PKF | jethro> yes |
| 14:06.12 | jethro | Daffy-PKF: you screwed the keyboard definition in x |
| 14:06.17 | streuner_ | MotorWRK: verschwinde |
| 14:06.26 | jethro | Daffy-PKF: apt-get screwed it even |
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| 14:06.53 | Daffy-PKF | PerfDave> i have apt-listbugs installed, and nothing special was said during dist-upgrade |
| 14:06.54 | jethro | Daffy-PKF: make sure XkbModel is set to the appropriate value |
| 14:07.00 | jim | Daffy-PKF: see that? be just a little more specific, and you get a landslide of answers :) |
| 14:07.12 | poseur | what happened to kernel.org's debian mirror? |
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| 14:07.22 | PerfDave | Daffy-PKF: So did you check the BTS? |
| 14:07.24 | greycat | poseur: why not ask kernel.org? |
| 14:07.28 | Daffy-PKF | jethro> i already cheked my XF86Config-4 |
| 14:07.30 | PerfDave | Daffy-PKF: Maybe nobody else had found it at the time you reported it. |
| 14:07.38 | PerfDave | Daffy-PKF: Anyway, welcome to Sid, enjoy your stay. |
| 14:07.56 | Daffy-PKF | PerfDave> :) yes i'll chack again |
| 14:08.09 | prad | does anyone knwo the name of the X11 development package name ? |
| 14:08.09 | Daffy-PKF | s/chack/check |
| 14:08.15 | greycat | ~faq prad |
| 14:08.18 | jethro | Daffy-PKF: I have had such a problem in the past, now feel free to file a pointless bug if you think it's worth it |
| 14:08.19 | prad | is it X11 or xf86... |
| 14:08.22 | greycat | !faq prad |
| 14:08.22 | dpkg | prad: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/ |
| 14:08.31 | prad | ok |
| 14:08.31 | Phated | xlibs-dev or something, isn't it? |
| 14:08.37 | caphuso | Phated: yeah |
| 14:08.45 | ricky_clarkson | prad: Define "it" and you might have an answerable question. |
| 14:08.49 | greycat | GAH. We need our *real* FAQ back! |
| 14:08.51 | jethro | Daffy-PKF: my guess is that you screwed your debconf configuration of xserver, then fixed it manually, and after the apt-get upgrade you reverted to defaults, and that ain't working anylonger |
| 14:08.55 | Phated | Whee, caphuso! Now as long as cafuego stays out... XD |
| 14:09.14 | greycat | DAMN IT.... xlibs-dev isn't in the non-wiki FAQ. |
| 14:09.26 | Daffy-PKF | jethro> well that's not a critical problem, but it's disturbing |
| 14:09.35 | azreal | what the hell does wiki stand for? |
| 14:09.36 | Daffy-PKF | apt-get update |
| 14:09.41 | Daffy-PKF | arf |
| 14:09.45 | ricky_clarkson | azreal: It's a Maori word. |
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| 14:10.02 | azreal | ricky_clarkson: elaborate please. |
| 14:10.07 | prad | ricky_clakson : the "it" was the x11 development package... I'm sorted now. ta |
| 14:10.16 | greycat | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DevelopmentPage |
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| 14:11.03 | ricky_clarkson | azreal: I'm contradicting myself, but: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EtymologyOfWiki |
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| 14:19.08 | prad | Hey whats a dummy package ? |
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| 14:19.33 | greycat | prad: a package that doesn't have any real contents; just dependencies on other packages. E.g. "gnome", which depends on a shitload of stuff but has no files of its own worth mentioning. |
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| 14:19.54 | prad | ahh right |
| 14:19.56 | prad | ta |
| 14:20.20 | misfitx7 | im trying to setup an Xvnc server i get it running and can log in but all i can see is a grey background, any suggestions? |
| 14:20.23 | quittt | prad, do you mix sounds?? |
| 14:20.33 | PerfDave | jethro: If you've manually edited your x config, then apt-get upgrade won't overwrite that config file |
| 14:20.38 | prad | quittt : no why ? |
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| 14:20.58 | quittt | prad, can you play two songs at the same time? |
| 14:20.58 | jethro | PerfDave: then some black magic did it |
| 14:21.06 | jethro | PerfDave: anyways, this is history |
| 14:21.24 | prad | yeah I guess ? why ? |
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| 14:21.58 | quittt | prad, can you?? |
| 14:22.04 | quittt | how?? |
| 14:22.27 | misfitx7 | or can anyone else suggest a way to remotely access a linux box from windows? |
| 14:22.37 | PerfDave | quittt: Some sound chips have hardware mixing support natively. |
| 14:22.38 | zakame | misfitx7: ssh |
| 14:22.38 | quittt | PerfDave, yes I know |
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| 14:22.40 | takatumi | misfitx7: putty |
| 14:22.42 | scarynetworkguy | misfitx7: Putty. |
| 14:22.46 | PerfDave | misfitx7: Sounds like you need to tell your X display to *do* something. |
| 14:22.48 | prad | yeah what perfdave said... |
| 14:22.49 | Ungy | mistix PuTTy |
| 14:22.51 | prad | ;p |
| 14:22.53 | jethro | misfitx7: cygwin+openssh! |
| 14:23.26 | zakame | misfitx7: emacs |
| 14:23.31 | misfitx7 | does X work over putty? |
| 14:23.48 | BR_ | XLiveCD for X over SSH is the best thing I have found |
| 14:23.48 | jethro | misfitx7: you need an xserver on yoru windows machine |
| 14:23.55 | directhex|work | misfitx7, only if you have an xserver running locally |
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| 14:24.10 | BR_ | misfitx7: http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/ |
| 14:24.39 | jethro | BR_: no need for a live cd, just have an xserver and ssh -X to the remote host |
| 14:24.51 | connochaetes | test |
| 14:24.51 | BR_ | "A CD based on Cygwin for X Windows forwarding via ssh" |
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| 14:25.02 | jim | you can get xfree86 running on windows if you have cygwin |
| 14:25.05 | BR_ | jethro: works very nicely under windows with no problems ;) |
| 14:25.15 | tull | hiya |
| 14:25.24 | BR_ | jethro: _very_ easy indeed it is :) just drop in CD and 3 clicks and then ssh -X :) |
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| 14:25.38 | paulliu | why did some packages update so slow?.. (eg: lilypond) |
| 14:25.43 | tull | does kernel 2.6 work fine in sarge? ive been compiling all night and it doesnt boot properly and im using the default .config |
| 14:25.47 | BR_ | jethro: I use it alot on Windows boxes where I can't install stuff due to lack of rights |
| 14:25.56 | tarzeau | grrr limits suck, mc -> Screen size 259x24 is not supported. |
| 14:26.09 | greycat | tarzeau: UTSL :) |
| 14:26.10 | jethro | heh |
| 14:26.18 | tull | it stops at "SETTING UP ICE SOCKT DIRECTORY /TMP/.ICE-UNIX ....donw |
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| 14:26.20 | directhex|work | tull, why not apt-get install a kernel instead? |
| 14:26.31 | greycat | tull: that would be X, not Linux. |
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| 14:26.44 | tarzeau | dpkg UTSL |
| 14:26.44 | dpkg | rumour has it, utsl is Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
| 14:26.49 | tarzeau | use the source, arf |
| 14:26.55 | PerfDave | tarzeau: Why did you compile it? We have kernel-image packages. |
| 14:26.57 | PerfDave | ARgh |
| 14:27.01 | PerfDave | tull: Why did you compile it? We have kernel-image packages. |
| 14:27.08 | tull | greycat right! what id do u use to start in console? |
| 14:27.19 | spamhog | QUESTION: Can I read how long one process has been up? |
| 14:27.25 | greycat | that *almost* looks like Englihs... |
| 14:27.30 | directhex|work | !wayc tull |
| 14:27.31 | tull | PerfDave oh ok. I didnt know that. so i just apt-get? |
| 14:27.31 | dpkg | tull: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 14:27.34 | greycat | spamhog: 'ps' can show the start time |
| 14:27.37 | jethro | greycat: what you just typed? :) |
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| 14:27.42 | PerfDave | tull: Yes. |
| 14:27.42 | dav89 | hello |
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| 14:27.49 | spamhog | ah!! tnx 10^6 |
| 14:27.50 | dav89 | how to see the partition? |
| 14:27.55 | dav89 | i need to put them on the fstav |
| 14:27.56 | dav89 | fstab |
| 14:28.08 | tull | PerfDave cool. thanks. so go with 2.6 should be fine right? |
| 14:28.10 | greycat | dav89: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 14:28.17 | PerfDave | tull: Yes, Sarge is fine with 2.6 kernels. |
| 14:28.20 | jim | dav89: are they mounted now? |
| 14:28.25 | PerfDave | fstab always seems like "face-stab" to me. Probably all these people saying "tnx" |
| 14:28.31 | jim | are you running linux now? |
| 14:28.31 | tull | thanks |
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| 14:29.10 | Overand | is there a better way to see curing network bandwidth usage than watch ifconfig? |
| 14:29.11 | greycat | dpkg, fstab is also <PerfDave> fstab always seems like "face-stab" to me. Probably all these people saying "tnx" |
| 14:29.36 | jethro | darn bot |
| 14:30.05 | Phated | When did fstab become a cmd: fstab (.*?)? |
| 14:31.01 | jethro | there's a loosy match on stab I d say |
| 14:31.01 | jethro | like $cmd=~m/stab/ when it should be /^stab$/ |
| 14:32.00 | Phated | No, dpkg doesn't do that kind of stuff. |
| 14:32.05 | Phated | At least, I don't think it does. |
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| 14:32.27 | greycat | *what*? |
| 14:32.27 | PerfDave | Overand: iftop |
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| 14:32.27 | Overand | PerfDave: thanks. |
| 14:32.27 | PerfDave | Overand: Or if you've got X installed, etherape |
| 14:32.27 | Overand | or... tnx |
| 14:32.27 | Overand | =] |
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| 14:32.27 | Phated | !factinfo cmd: fstab (.*?) |
| 14:32.27 | Overand | no x on that machine, but i do on others. |
| 14:32.27 | jim | greycat: fstab is evidently a dpkg command... |
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| 14:32.28 | greycat | !listkeys stab |
| 14:32.28 | Overand | apachetop, iftop, what else is there? |
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| 14:32.28 | greycat | !test |
| 14:32.28 | Overand | (aside from 'top') |
| 14:32.28 | greycat | It is... an ex-bot. |
| 14:32.37 | jim | dpkg are you being a good bot? |
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| 14:32.53 | greycat | jethro: irrelevant if dpkg is comatose. |
| 14:33.06 | PerfDave | Overand: tethereal? |
| 14:33.11 | Phated | Oh, dear. |
| 14:33.16 | jethro | dpkg is a bot on crack cocaine |
| 14:33.18 | jim | loosy is what reeky says when the murtzes are trying to visit? |
| 14:41.34 | jethro | greycat: comatose? |
| 14:41.34 | jethro | ok |
| 14:41.34 | jethro | got it |
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| 14:41.34 | greycat | but based on the last response dpkg gave us, I'd say it's "CMD: fstab (.*?)" |
| 14:41.35 | greycat | note the 'F' in the factoid. |
| 14:41.35 | dpkg | CMD: fstab (.*?) -- created by ricky_clarkson <~ricky@h-69-3-31-82.snvacaid.covad.net> at Thu Jun 10 09:39:11 2004 (242 days). |
| 14:41.35 | Overand | this is odd, iftop is a little unreadable, i wonder if it's a terminal problem. no, more lilelt it's a 9:30 AM EST and haven't slept yet problem |
| 14:41.35 | dpkg | Yes, greycat, you're still online. |
| 14:41.35 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'stab' by key (15 shown; 52 total): debian stable ;; stab a lamer ;; unstable users ;; woody->unstable ;; fstab ;; stable->unstable ;; how often does unstable break ;; smb share fstab ;; stable disks ;; stable ;; stable + testing ;; unstable->potato ;; unstable packages ;; csstable in dns ;; un+stable. |
| 14:41.35 | jim | it won't answer anyone at the moment... |
| 14:41.35 | greycat | dondelelcaro: your bot's sick again... |
| 14:41.35 | scarynetworkguy | I think he's gone to sleep. |
| 14:41.35 | greycat | yeah, well, that's what /lastlog is for :) |
| 14:41.35 | sanxiyn | Overand: There's ntop. |
| 14:41.35 | greycat | or /away |
| 14:41.35 | sanxiyn | ntop for Network Top. |
| 14:41.35 | dpkg | jim: aw, gee |
| 14:41.35 | dpkg | jethro: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 14:41.36 | jethro | dpkg: no |
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| 14:41.37 | zakame | heh |
| 14:41.37 | eder | hola buenas tardes me intento bajar el nautilus para la distro ubuntu pero me dice que no se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuentes y he hecho un apt-get update |
| 14:41.37 | eder | que puedo hacer? |
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| 14:41.37 | greycat | ~es |
| 14:41.38 | apt | Para los usuarios debian de habla hispana que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #debian-es -- Spanish-speaking debian users requiring support, please join #debian-es |
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| 14:41.38 | Overand | thjat's weird. must not be that box that's hosing my network. oh well |
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| 14:41.39 | streuner_ | simonrvn, sussudio: are you around? |
| 14:41.39 | jim | dpkg are you being a good bot? |
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| 14:41.39 | greycat | why does "/whois apt" give me NO response whatsoever? |
| 14:41.39 | dpkg | No Offense |
| 14:41.39 | dpkg | :), jim |
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| 14:41.40 | eder | hola |
| 14:41.40 | eder | alguien me lee? |
| 14:41.40 | greycat | !tell eder about es |
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| 14:41.40 | greycat | @tell eder about es |
| 14:41.40 | abrotman | greycat: same for dpkg |
| 14:41.41 | prad | yeah me too |
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| 14:41.42 | eder | what? |
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| 14:41.42 | Phated | Yargh. |
| 14:41.42 | azreal | greycat: im not getting any whois info back from anyone |
| 14:41.43 | directhex|work | @mourn dpkg |
| 14:41.43 | Phated | Uh oh... Lag time. |
| 14:41.44 | greycat | @tell eder about es |
| 14:41.44 | streuner_ | simonrv_: we need ravenbird |
| 14:41.44 | netsurfer_peer | is apt-cacher broken ? |
| 14:41.44 | greycat | streuner_: ravenbird is here and working. |
| 14:41.44 | streuner_ | greycat: ah, ok. |
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| 14:41.44 | eder | What can i do? |
| 14:41.45 | greycat | eder: use English or /join #debian-es |
| 14:41.45 | eder | ok greycat |
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| 14:41.45 | Rawplayer | azreal: i had that to :) |
| 14:41.45 | greycat | azreal: I am... just not for apt. And sometimes it's lagged. |
| 14:41.45 | Rawplayer | its lag |
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| 14:41.49 | azreal | ahh, holy crap, that is very bad lag! |
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| 14:43.11 | PerfDave | "moans"? ravenbird is a filthy necrophile, masturbating over dpkg's grave! |
| 14:43.13 | greycat | @literal CMD: mourn (.*?) |
| 14:43.13 | ravenbird | CMD: mourn (.*?) is ($1): <action>((cries|weeps|moans) over the (grave|tomb|funeral pyre) of $1|(pounds|pushes on|pummels) $1's chest. *clear!* <zzzzap> *clear!* <zzzap> *beeeeep!*) |
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| 14:43.13 | jim | wonderful picture... so the rust is the very next step? |
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| 14:43.33 | greycat | ravenbird: CMD: mourn (.*?) =~ s/moans/sobs/ |
| 14:43.33 | ravenbird | greycat: OK |
| 14:43.38 | jim | apt: how slow can you go?! |
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| 14:43.40 | Phated | Leave the bots alone. Sheesh. |
| 14:43.40 | Overand | god i hate tthe bitchx quit messages |
| 14:43.40 | Phated | Overand: /ignore #debian JOINS PARTS QUITS |
| 14:43.41 | prad | Overand : which one ? |
| 14:43.42 | greycat | or tell your client to ignore any line with [BX] |
| 14:43.43 | jim | how do you do that? |
| 14:43.44 | Overand | prad: the one that mroe or less ays [BX] BX is a cool client! |
| 14:43.55 | prad | ahhh heheh |
| 14:43.57 | greycat | 09:43 /IGNORE -regexp -pattern "is (away|gone|back)" * ACTIONS |
| 14:44.02 | Phated | /ignore ALL [BX], I think. |
| 14:44.05 | greycat | from /help ignroe |
| 14:44.07 | Overand | [BX] Insert not-very-clever and maybe dirty wittisizm here |
| 14:44.07 | greycat | from /help ignore, even. |
| 14:44.40 | Overand | I hate them, but if I ignore them I won't get to bitch about them. I've got a no-ignores-unless-it's-*really*-bad policy |
| 14:44.48 | netsurfer_peer | anyone using apt-cacher ? when I go to http://192.168.0.2/apt-cacher/<debian mirror> all I get is a 404 |
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| 14:45.04 | Overand | netsurfer_peer: you've probably got apache running |
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| 14:45.14 | netsurfer_peer | Overand - I do |
| 14:45.19 | Overand | if you're nt using apache, netsurfer_peer, you might want to remove it from that machine |
| 14:45.30 | netsurfer_peer | Overand I do use it |
| 14:45.36 | hypnox | long (offtopic) shot: does anyone remember the name of that java app that lets you navigate the web in a graphical form, showing the links between sites? |
| 14:45.39 | Overand | so change the port that apt-cache runs on |
| 14:45.46 | Overand | er |
| 14:45.47 | Overand | apt-proxy |
| 14:45.50 | Overand | wait |
| 14:45.59 | Overand | you said apt-cacher? |
| 14:46.02 | Overand | i assumed you meant apt-prozxy |
| 14:46.04 | greycat | hypnox: if so, they would've answered the *first* time... |
| 14:46.11 | netsurfer_peer | Overand - im not using apt-proxy im using apt-cacher |
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| 14:46.16 | hypnox | sorry greycat |
| 14:46.25 | Overand | well, same deal |
| 14:46.34 | Overand | your machine is plugging at 192.168.0.2 |
| 14:46.45 | Daffy-PKF | i still can't use the shift-something keys (for combinations that makes '?', '.', '/', 'A', 'Z','E'... for example) under x-window, i just made a dist-upgrade (sid), my XF86Config-4 is ok, and nothing in bts, can someone help me? it's something annoying... |
| 14:46.48 | netsurfer_peer | Overand - apt-cacher runs inside apache as cgi |
| 14:46.49 | Overand | but that's got apache running on port 80. change apt-cacher's default port and fix your references |
| 14:47.03 | Overand | OH... |
| 14:47.15 | Daffy-PKF | it already happened to me before, i don't remember how i fixed that |
| 14:47.16 | Overand | wait, cgi, or module? |
| 14:47.24 | netsurfer_peer | cgi |
| 14:47.30 | Overand | eww |
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| 14:47.47 | Overand | nice app though |
| 14:47.54 | Overand | apt-proxy doesn't support streaming, does it? |
| 14:47.56 | netsurfer_peer | Overand - not when it dont work ;) |
| 14:47.57 | Overand | apt-cacher does |
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| 14:48.23 | netsurfer_peer | Overand - I moved to apt-cacher cus I had 404 errors with apt-proxy2 |
| 14:48.28 | Overand | hm |
| 14:48.47 | netsurfer_peer | (was running it on port 9999) |
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| 14:49.15 | _KonvIRC_ | hi |
| 14:49.18 | Overand | well, i've never even touched CGI stuff in apache, so i can't help you there |
| 14:50.17 | nome | which is the path of the default theme of firefox? |
| 14:50.20 | dupondje | :s i updated pc to sarge from woody testing, and @ boot i get LI and then it gets stuck :s |
| 14:50.29 | dupondje | so lilo starts loading but doesn't continue |
| 14:50.37 | netsurfer_peer | there is a apache.conf in the apt-cacher config dir - it includes some alias - maybe I need to put it in httpd.conf ? |
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| 14:51.51 | Overand | nome: i believe the default theme is actually a part of the binary |
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| 14:52.10 | Overand | eww LI |
| 14:52.14 | Overand | i've had that before |
| 14:52.29 | nome | Overand: i would just change some icons do you think it's possible? |
| 14:52.40 | tull | hello |
| 14:52.42 | Overand | dupondje: you might want to try booting a rescue disk and re-writing your mbr |
| 14:52.51 | Overand | nome: i couldn't tell you. maybe ask in #firefox |
| 14:53.04 | Overand | if it's like most skinning systems, the answer is 'maybe' |
| 14:53.05 | Overand | heh |
| 14:53.07 | tull | PerfDave I used aptget to download the kernel image but same thing happens |
| 14:53.18 | nome | Overand: i was there but no people :P |
| 14:53.43 | nome | #firefox 15 nicks 0 op :) |
| 14:53.47 | Overand | nome: try http://www.mozilla.org =] |
| 14:53.49 | nome | it's not the same |
| 14:53.53 | tull | PerfDave It stops at SETTING UP ICE SOCKET DIRECTORY bla bla bla ... done |
| 14:53.57 | Overand | no, it's not |
| 14:54.05 | netsurfer_peer | Overand - FYI... /etc/apt-cacher/apache.conf needs added to httpd.conf :) |
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| 14:54.06 | Overand | but there's a fairly actrive board for mozilla dev |
| 14:54.12 | tull | oh and i get an error when starting the general console font. |
| 14:54.16 | nome | well now talking seriously |
| 14:54.17 | tull | it says it can find it. |
| 14:54.21 | Overand | www.mozilla-dev.org? |
| 14:54.22 | tull | no such file or directory |
| 14:54.29 | Overand | i forget |
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| 14:54.38 | nome | my cdrom it's not detected anymore |
| 14:54.51 | nome | why? |
| 14:54.53 | Overand | nome: what happens when you mount it manually? |
| 14:55.10 | nome | Overand: wait |
| 14:55.12 | PerfDave | tull: What's ICE got to do with the kernel? |
| 14:55.15 | abrotman | nome: it died? |
| 14:55.37 | nome | in winzozz it works |
| 14:55.55 | Overand | nome: ok, good to know, but you didn't answer my question |
| 14:56.01 | Overand | does it work if you mount it manually? |
| 14:56.09 | tull | PerfDave thats when it stops. Before starting the defaullt run level. |
| 14:56.15 | nome | Overand: no medium found |
| 14:56.22 | Overand | ... that's what "mount" reports? |
| 14:56.29 | PerfDave | tull: Sorry? You have this error when you're installing a new kernel-image? |
| 14:56.31 | nome | during boot i got differnets messages |
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| 14:56.45 | Overand | I don't care what the boot messge is, i want to know what happens when you mount it manually. |
| 14:56.53 | Overand | using the command 'mount' |
| 14:57.04 | abrotman | nome: it's seen by the bios? |
| 14:57.10 | tull | PerfDave nop, after installing it. i cant start the OS when booting the new image i installed |
| 14:57.23 | Overand | oh nome |
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| 14:57.27 | nome | abrotman: Overand when i put in modules |
| 14:57.29 | Overand | re: mozilla |
| 14:57.36 | Overand | You can talk to other users in real time by joining in the #mozillazine channel on mozilla.org's chat server (irc.mozilla.org) with an IRC client such as Chatzilla (which comes installed with Mozilla by default)."[1~" |
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| 14:57.49 | nome | ide-scsi i got different messages than when i don't |
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| 14:57.52 | abrotman | nome: i asked about the bios |
| 14:57.57 | Overand | so #mozillazine on irc.mozilla.org |
| 14:58.03 | nome | !nopaste |
| 14:58.04 | dpkg | well, nopaste is http://nopaste.snit.ch/ or http://pastebin.com/ |
| 14:58.06 | abrotman | nome: perhaps install discover might help |
| 14:58.10 | abrotman | !paste |
| 14:58.11 | dpkg | i heard paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff |
| 14:58.41 | nome | abrotman: which tail is better |
| 14:58.46 | Overand | I figured it wouldn't be a big deal if it was one line, since it's one line if i paste it or if I paraphrase is... |
| 14:58.51 | abrotman | nome: say what? |
| 14:58.55 | abrotman | !it |
| 14:58.55 | dpkg | i heard italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it, (anche /j #linux-it). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 14:59.09 | tull | !pt |
| 14:59.09 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:59.21 | nome | abrotman: i mean which log do you prefore? |
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| 14:59.39 | tull | PerfDave any idea of what i could do? |
| 14:59.39 | abrotman | nome: log of what? .. i asked if the bios sees your drive .. to make sure it's not physically dead |
| 14:59.49 | nome | yes |
| 14:59.50 | Overand | abrotman: it works in windows |
| 14:59.57 | Overand | he says |
| 14:59.57 | nome | it sees my ide1 |
| 14:59.59 | abrotman | gotcha |
| 15:00.08 | jim | ide1 is the controler |
| 15:00.17 | jim | not the drive |
| 15:00.22 | abrotman | nome: and `dmesg` sees your cddrive also? |
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| 15:00.52 | manchot | when I compile msmtp on debian, I got this error, could anyone take a look at #flood and help? |
| 15:00.58 | PerfDave | tull: Can you boot into single-user mode? |
| 15:00.58 | nome | abrotman: it 's strange bios sees it as ide1 with name vendor and everything |
| 15:01.01 | escualis | anyone who kernel supports Intel82845G/GL ? |
| 15:01.02 | abrotman | msmtp ? |
| 15:01.08 | escualis | knows* |
| 15:01.10 | manchot | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 15:01.12 | PerfDave | tull: What is trying to set up this ICE socket directory? |
| 15:01.18 | abrotman | nome: but does dmesg see it? |
| 15:01.22 | nome | abrotman: than it buring boot it tryes to probe ide 1 2 3 4 |
| 15:01.25 | scarynetworkguy | !tell escualis about smart questions |
| 15:01.25 | abrotman | !b-e machot |
| 15:01.27 | dpkg | machot: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 15:01.59 | PerfDave | !wayc manchot |
| 15:02.00 | dpkg | manchot: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 15:02.14 | abrotman | !info msmtp |
| 15:02.22 | manchot | dpkg: I have to use gnutls liberary. |
| 15:02.22 | dpkg | msmtp: (light SMTP client with support for server profiles), section mail, is extra. Version: 1.2.4-3 (sid), Packaged size: 38 kB, Installed size: 104 kB |
| 15:02.22 | dpkg | manchot: I give up, what is it? |
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| 15:02.26 | PerfDave | !tell tull -about msg |
| 15:02.40 | PerfDave | manchot: Are you compiling from the deb-src? |
| 15:02.44 | manchot | dpkg: to sent mail to gmail and debian's pkg does not have gnutls support |
| 15:02.44 | dpkg | You are moron #18, manchot |
| 15:02.56 | manchot | PerfDave: no, |
| 15:02.59 | abrotman | manchot: version in what? |
| 15:03.02 | PerfDave | manchot: Well, you should. |
| 15:03.10 | abrotman | manchot: sarge/sid ? |
| 15:03.11 | tull | PerfDave what do u mean single user mode? |
| 15:03.18 | abrotman | !u |
| 15:03.18 | manchot | abrotman: sid |
| 15:03.18 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 15:03.26 | PerfDave | manchot: Read the APT HOWTO on working with source pacakges. It will tell you how to achieve what you want in a way that won't hose your system. |
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| 15:03.29 | abrotman | manchot: then apparently .. it has gnutls support already |
| 15:03.37 | abrotman | manchot: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/msmtp |
| 15:03.42 | jim | grr! dpkg, you red thing you! |
| 15:03.49 | PerfDave | tull: You can boot your system in single-user mode and it won't try running the ICE thing. |
| 15:04.21 | tull | PerfDave how do i do that? |
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| 15:04.45 | abrotman | manchot: so .. apparently you can stop compiling now |
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| 15:04.56 | nome | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/249 |
| 15:05.12 | manchot | abrotman: ok. let me take a look. |
| 15:05.15 | abrotman | nome: it will explode in 2 days |
| 15:05.22 | abrotman | nome: did you just update your kernel? |
| 15:05.48 | nome | abrotman: i upgrade from apt but not te kernel |
| 15:06.03 | nome | can it be related with hotplug or udev? |
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| 15:06.11 | abrotman | nome: from my experience .. that error means your drive is going south |
| 15:06.34 | abrotman | nome: ask #kernel maybe? or ##linux |
| 15:06.51 | nome | abrotman: ok but in win is still working :( |
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| 15:07.59 | abrotman | nome: but it could still be starting .. does it spin funny at all? |
| 15:08.28 | nome | it seems |
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| 15:08.51 | abrotman | nome: .. like .. it sounds like a false start? |
| 15:09.08 | abrotman | or the disc is spinning in the drive .. but like it's scraping? |
| 15:09.30 | nome | abrotman: i'll reboot to check one thing and i'll came back |
| 15:09.38 | abrotman | erm .. ok |
| 15:09.41 | nome | i feel it a linux bug |
| 15:09.52 | abrotman | nome: ask #kernel quickly before you reboot |
| 15:10.02 | nome | ok |
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| 15:10.38 | abrotman | nome: and google also |
| 15:10.49 | nome | abrotman: i did |
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| 15:11.05 | nome | and i tryed all the solution i found but .... |
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| 15:11.53 | Coke | Where does the firefox installation put the master security password? I need to have a fresh installation of firefox without it. |
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| 15:12.07 | abrotman | master security password? |
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| 15:12.16 | Smurg | abrotman : Hi |
| 15:12.17 | gypsymauro | hello, I need movies of free software's demos to show them in a event for promoting free software I found some but someone can suggest me others? for example something about debian/gnome/kde? |
| 15:12.32 | abrotman | hello |
| 15:12.37 | Coke | abrotman: yeah, the one you can use when encrypting stored passwords, etc. |
| 15:12.50 | abrotman | Coke: oh .. maybe ask on irc.mozilla.org ? |
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| 15:12.59 | Coke | abrotman: they never know anything |
| 15:13.06 | abrotman | gypsymauro: ask the respective channels for each desktop ... |
| 15:13.15 | abrotman | gypsymauro: i'm not sure about movies of debian |
| 15:13.21 | gypsymauro | abrotman: ok but about debian?:) |
| 15:13.24 | gypsymauro | ah ok |
| 15:13.26 | abrotman | Coke: oh .. ok .. |
| 15:13.36 | abrotman | gypsymauro: if you wait around .. ask in a bit .. maybe someone else will know |
| 15:13.46 | abrotman | gypsymauro: i think there is also a debian-advocacy list |
| 15:13.52 | Smurg | gypsymauro : Tell them to stop using windoze :) |
| 15:14.25 | Smurg | abrotman : How can I create a rescue disk onto a floppy |
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| 15:14.49 | gypsymauro | abrotman: tanx btw |
| 15:14.50 | abrotman | Smurg: rescueo f what |
| 15:15.03 | gypsymauro | Smurg: I'll do:) in fact I'll show some funny windows related movies too;) |
| 15:15.08 | abrotman | gypsymauro: look through lists.debian.org .. see if you can find the appropriate list ot ask on |
| 15:15.13 | abrotman | err to ask on |
| 15:15.31 | Smurg | abrotman : Just something as a backup so that I can install grub after erasing the partition tables |
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| 15:15.41 | gypsymauro | tanx abrotman |
| 15:15.44 | Smurg | abrotman : Will that be a boot floppy? |
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| 15:16.09 | abrotman | Smurg: grub makes a boot flopppy |
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| 15:16.22 | abrotman | Smurg: and they also offer one in thier ftp archives |
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| 15:16.45 | Smurg | abrotman : oh, so I download and put in on floppy? |
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| 15:17.11 | abrotman | Smurg: you can .. or you can have grub make one from your current system |
| 15:17.25 | Smurg | yes id prefer that please.How can I do that |
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| 15:17.56 | abrotman | man grub-install i think |
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| 15:19.50 | Smurg | abrotman : The dpkg bot here has a pretty good archive of common FAQ |
| 15:19.58 | abrotman | huh? |
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| 15:20.05 | abrotman | dpkg: i love you |
| 15:20.06 | dpkg | I hope you mean in the platonic sense :/ |
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| 15:20.42 | greycat | dpkg: he doesn't |
| 15:20.43 | dpkg | i don't know, greycat |
| 15:20.50 | nome | !paste |
| 15:20.50 | dpkg | i guess paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff |
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| 15:21.04 | Smurg | dpkg: hi |
| 15:21.04 | dpkg | hola, smurg |
| 15:21.43 | Smurg | Man this is tempting... :) Im restricting myself tho. |
| 15:21.47 | paster | "nome" at 82.52.58.53 pasted "ide (hdc) problem" (273 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/250 |
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| 15:22.13 | nome | abrotman: maybe you can understand something more from there |
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| 15:22.26 | Shadowcat | anyone have trouble mounting a usb HD in debian? |
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| 15:22.32 | abrotman | cdrom: open failed |
| 15:22.47 | greycat | Shadowcat: yes, you. |
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| 15:23.00 | abrotman | nome: your cdrom: open failed |
| 15:23.02 | abrotman | whatever that means |
| 15:23.05 | nome | abrotman: is it gone |
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| 15:23.07 | nome | ? |
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| 15:23.14 | abrotman | nome: do you have a spare around to try? |
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| 15:24.28 | nome | abrotman: no spare |
| 15:24.29 | grumbel | what is the fasted way to copy a directory from one computer to another? rsync is fine, but the use of ssh makes it too slow (on of the computers is a bit 'dated'), don't need encryption. |
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| 15:24.40 | abrotman | nome: did you ask the #kernel people? |
| 15:24.45 | greycat | grumbel: nfs, cp -a |
| 15:24.45 | nome | yes |
| 15:24.51 | SlayerXP | grumbel: use rsync without ssh |
| 15:25.03 | abrotman | nome: and what did they say? |
| 15:25.07 | dupondje | a question, if i boot from knoppix ? to fix my debian installed on the pc, can u use apt-get upgrade etc ? |
| 15:25.13 | abrotman | !u |
| 15:25.13 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 15:25.14 | grumbel | SlayerXP: with rlogin/rsh? |
| 15:25.17 | resiak | dupondje: If you chroot in, yes. |
| 15:25.18 | nome | abrotman: nothing :) |
| 15:25.21 | dupondje | k |
| 15:25.26 | greycat | dupondje: depends on how you "boot from knoppix ?" |
| 15:25.29 | grumbel | I guess I can't trick ssh into disabling encryption |
| 15:25.30 | abrotman | nome: ah .. wait a bit .. ask again |
| 15:25.38 | SlayerXP | grumbel: rsync has a server mode |
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| 15:25.53 | grumbel | SlayerXP: good idea, might work |
| 15:26.05 | dupondje | greycat, just livecd ? :) |
| 15:26.12 | dupondje | not hddinstall |
| 15:26.17 | Chris1978 | hello everybody! is there anything i can do against my gnomedesktop desktop not updating itself when i safe i file to it from eg galeon? this used to work. already filed a bug against gamin, but there was no response and as it worked before i guess there is something wrong with my setup. i'm on unstable btw. |
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| 15:26.39 | greycat | gods save me from the n00bs. |
| 15:26.45 | SlayerXP | Chris1978: wait 24 hours, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 15:26.57 | SlayerXP | Chris1978: if that doesn't work the first time, repeat. |
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| 15:27.30 | abrotman | !save greycat |
| 15:27.31 | SlayerXP | Chris1978: the package maintainer will welcome your patches to fix the problem. |
| 15:27.39 | Zerqent | I try to get norwegian symbols to work in gnome/nautilus. I only get "invalid unicode" on files containing norwegian symbols,and nautilus won't open the files. Anybody know if there is a way to implement support for norwegian symbols? |
| 15:28.00 | abrotman | SlayerXP: how do you know? |
| 15:28.35 | SlayerXP | abrotman: just guessing, really. |
| 15:28.35 | Peto77 | i got a question. i get logged out from x windows when beeing idle for some time. anyone got idea how to disable it? |
| 15:28.35 | greycat | tell whatever's logging you out to stop. |
| 15:28.36 | abrotman | Peto77: one possibility is turning off dpms |
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| 15:29.03 | Peto77 | hmm |
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| 15:29.14 | abrotman | Option "DPMS" "Off" |
| 15:29.27 | Chris1978 | SlayerXP: thanks for the advise, but i already do this for several weeks. this breakage is not new. and as you can see by me filing a bug, i informed myself before asking. i'm not a c programmer so patching is out of question for me. so i hoped someone had the same problem and came up with a solution ... still the first time i get such bad feedback on this channel ... |
| 15:29.43 | ^c_ | Peto77: or test it with xset -dpms |
| 15:29.52 | SlayerXP | Chris1978: you're running unstable. if you can't deal with breakage then DON'T RUN UNSTABLE. |
| 15:30.18 | abrotman | Chris1978: have you tried creating a blank file on your desktop .. and see if you're actually saving to the same dir as is shown? |
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| 15:30.21 | SlayerXP | beta software in "may not work properly" *shocker* |
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| 15:30.34 | abrotman | it is gnome2.8 |
| 15:30.44 | abrotman | Chris1978: you could also try asking #gnome on irc.gnome.org |
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| 15:31.55 | Chris1978 | abrotman: yes i save to the right dir. when i hit control-r, the file appears, so apparently gamin doesn't monitor the desktop dir for some reason. |
| 15:32.19 | abrotman | wtf is gamin ? |
| 15:32.24 | Chris1978 | abrotman: but will try on #gnome thank you |
| 15:32.26 | abrotman | !gamin |
| 15:32.27 | thingfish | alternative to fam |
| 15:32.31 | abrotman | oh |
| 15:32.50 | Chris1978 | abrotman: someone was faster ;) |
| 15:33.29 | Chris1978 | abrotman: it is also default for gnome 2.8 |
| 15:33.58 | abrotman | Chris1978: erm .. no |
| 15:34.07 | abrotman | Chris1978: apt-get install gnome installs famd |
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| 15:34.56 | abrotman | Peto77__: you can't irc here as root |
| 15:35.22 | abrotman | how do the kernel packages decide if you're using grub or lilo ? |
| 15:35.50 | nome | abrotman: isn't strange it's trying to "Probing IDE interface ide1. and then 2 3 4 5" |
| 15:36.03 | abrotman | nome: not that i'm aware .. but it could be |
| 15:36.32 | nome | abrotman: is there a way to stop probing ide 2 3 4 5 |
| 15:36.35 | abrotman | nome: not that i'm aware |
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| 15:37.55 | Peto77 | qwe |
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| 15:38.10 | afaik | how can I attache a file to mail sent via the cli mail binary? |
| 15:38.23 | SlayerXP | afaik: mailx |
| 15:38.24 | Peto77 | this makes me feel stupid |
| 15:38.29 | jethro | afaik: uuencode it |
| 15:38.36 | afaik | mail me@example.com -s 'navbar' < navbar.png |
| 15:38.46 | afaik | dumped the image's contents into the body :/ |
| 15:38.59 | paulswm | Peto77: Hey ask away, all of us have felt that way |
| 15:38.59 | abrotman | yes .. that will happen |
| 15:39.01 | jethro | afaik: you need to uuencode it |
| 15:39.03 | SlayerXP | afaik: again, mailx |
| 15:39.03 | Peto77 | i did that xset thing and i got logge out |
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| 15:39.21 | afaik | SlayerXP, mailx isnt on the server |
| 15:39.31 | SlayerXP | afaik: then install it. |
| 15:39.33 | abrotman | Peto77: edit your X config .. put Option "DPMS" "Off" in the right place |
| 15:39.34 | afaik | and I am not the admin, so dont reply with a witty remark like "then install it" |
| 15:39.39 | afaik | oh, too late :( |
| 15:39.40 | SlayerXP | too late |
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| 15:40.00 | abrotman | afaik: you have no mutt/pine .. anything slightly more friendly? |
| 15:40.07 | SlayerXP | afaik: echo "please install mailx" | mail -s "request" root@localhost |
| 15:40.16 | Peto77 | abortman: what is that dpms anyway? |
| 15:40.20 | abrotman | !dpms |
| 15:40.20 | dpkg | methinks dpms is know as VESA Power Saving or Energy Star. In X4.0.X add Option"DPMS" "on" to config monitor setting. After that it can be configured by using 'xset dpms <standby-sec> <suspend-sec> <off-sec>' or config file options (ServerFlag section). |
| 15:40.24 | abrotman | it tells you what it is |
| 15:40.43 | abrotman | Peto77: i've had machines that don't respond to dpms well . .and when it tries to power off the monitor .. it crashes X |
| 15:40.43 | afaik | SlayerXP, the admin is lazy, he doesnt respond to emails either |
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| 15:40.54 | Peto77 | !dpms |
| 15:40.54 | dpkg | [dpms] know as VESA Power Saving or Energy Star. In X4.0.X add Option"DPMS" "on" to config monitor setting. After that it can be configured by using 'xset dpms <standby-sec> <suspend-sec> <off-sec>' or config file options (ServerFlag section). |
| 15:40.56 | afaik | in fact, I think they just dont have an admin anymore |
| 15:41.02 | afaik | the box still runs php 4.1.2 |
| 15:41.08 | abrotman | it's woody? |
| 15:41.17 | afaik | probably |
| 15:41.23 | afaik | if not older |
| 15:41.37 | afaik | probably potato |
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| 15:41.48 | afaik | yeah... it's Potato :) |
| 15:41.55 | paulswm | afaik: cat /etc/debian_version to see what version it is |
| 15:42.03 | paulswm | hah |
| 15:42.16 | abrotman | potato didn't have php4 |
| 15:42.23 | Peto77 | and why couldn't i speak, when i was here before? i can't send massages, when i'm logged as root? |
| 15:42.36 | abrotman | Peto77: i told you .. you can't irc here as root |
| 15:42.37 | afaik | abrotman, they could have apt-got it or something |
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| 15:43.00 | abrotman | oh .. i lied .. it does have php4 .. 4.0.3 :) |
| 15:43.03 | Peto77 | abortman: why? |
| 15:43.08 | abrotman | !irc as root |
| 15:43.09 | dpkg | (from Net::IRC comments) <crab> to irc as root demonstrates about the same brains as a man in a thunderstorm waving a lightning rod and standing in a copper tub of salt water yelling "ALL GODS ARE BASTARDS!" |
| 15:43.15 | afaik | Peto77, because irc as root is stupid |
| 15:43.22 | abrotman | !root |
| 15:43.22 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 15:43.24 | Peto77 | hehe |
| 15:43.26 | abrotman | see .. it's just bad |
| 15:43.36 | Uzul | did somebody install Oracle on a debian sarge ? |
| 15:43.41 | abrotman | i did it on woody |
| 15:43.46 | abrotman | hrm .. doesn't sound good |
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| 15:43.58 | soppman | hi, what is sfp spot on a switch? |
| 15:44.09 | abrotman | !sfp |
| 15:44.15 | Anthro | Is there a way to use openoffice from the commandline to convert .sxw files to .doc files? |
| 15:44.17 | Uzul | abrotman: what kind of problem did you experiment ? |
| 15:44.18 | abrotman | soppman: acronymfinder.com :) |
| 15:44.25 | dupondje | when i run lilo i get: |
| 15:44.25 | dupondje | Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. |
| 15:44.25 | dupondje | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.25 | dupondje | Device 0x0300: Inconsistent partition table, 3rd entry |
| 15:44.25 | dupondje | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.25 | dupondje | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:44.26 | Peto77 | i thought i has someyhing to do with that, but when i go to irc to get an advice, i have to be root |
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| 15:44.37 | caphuso | Peto77: bullshit |
| 15:44.37 | abrotman | Uzul: it was a pain .. i found a link with some decent sstuff for woody |
| 15:44.41 | archpollux | hi |
| 15:44.46 | caphuso | Peto77: what moron told you that? |
| 15:45.00 | paster | "dupondje" at 213.224.125.209 pasted "lilo" (5 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/251 |
| 15:45.02 | abrotman | i bet it was greycat |
| 15:45.06 | abrotman | :) |
| 15:45.10 | archpollux | does anyone know of a program that creates a kernel config automatically from hardware info? |
| 15:45.13 | Uzul | abrotman: do you think it should be easier on a red hat ? |
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| 15:45.23 | Peto77 | caphuso: i did...whatever. i'm just too lazy to switch accounts ;) |
| 15:45.25 | abrotman | Uzul: dunno .. RH is a pain to begin with |
| 15:45.26 | dupondje | http://channels.debian.net/paste/251 <- how could i fix this error ? |
| 15:45.33 | valdyn | archpollux: that doesnt make sense |
| 15:45.44 | archpollux | valdyn: why not? |
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| 15:45.56 | Uzul | abrotman: but it is supposed to give support for Oracle, isn't it ? |
| 15:46.09 | abrotman | Uzul: only RHAS |
| 15:46.18 | valdyn | archpollux: b/c if you just want a kernel for you hardware, apt-get install kernel-image-blah does that better than any autotool could |
| 15:46.20 | abrotman | Uzul: which is about 1600$ |
| 15:46.39 | archpollux | valdyn: not if you want to modify kernel sources |
| 15:46.46 | Uzul | abauer: yep that's the one I (my company ;-)) will buy |
| 15:47.07 | resiak | Uzul: I feel your pain. |
| 15:47.07 | abrotman | Uzul: why? ... oracle 9i installed fine on woody .. it was the Collaboration suite that sucked |
| 15:47.07 | valdyn | archpollux: so modify a debian kernels config |
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| 15:47.37 | paulswm | dupondje: what happens if you do 'sfdisk -l /dev/hda' (as root) |
| 15:47.50 | archpollux | valdyn: i only want to compile the things i need, i don't want to be wasting time disabling stuff in the kernel config? |
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| 15:47.57 | prad | anyone know of a faq for samba |
| 15:47.59 | prad | ? |
| 15:48.02 | Uzul | abauer: ok I'll check wether I'm supposed to install the Collab suit or not |
| 15:48.03 | greycat | prad: samba.org, duh |
| 15:48.03 | abrotman | #samba ? |
| 15:48.10 | abrotman | Uzul: my nick is not abauer |
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| 15:48.22 | resiak | !tabsmite Uzul |
| 15:48.24 | Uzul | abrotman: sorry ;) |
| 15:48.24 | abrotman | Uzul: you'd know already if you were |
| 15:48.32 | greycat | abauer: yeah right, whatever you say.... ;-) |
| 15:48.43 | Uzul | abrotman: ;) |
| 15:48.50 | dupondje | its booting now, wait sec :) |
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| 15:49.07 | valdyn | archpollux: that shouldnt take more than 5 minutes |
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| 15:49.36 | resiak | dupondje: Uh, so you come onto #debian to ask for help and don't have your system running even though you could? :/ |
| 15:49.39 | prad | kool thanx guys |
| 15:49.40 | DotHack | !be |
| 15:49.40 | dpkg | hmm... be is Beryllium. Belgium, or the company who made BeOS |
| 15:49.40 | valdyn | archpollux: but what would be the point? saving 15 mins compile time that cost you nothing? |
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| 15:49.44 | Uzul | abrotman: thanks anyways |
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| 15:50.25 | valdyn | greycat, would you be so nice to bring that faction off some bsd about custom kernels |
| 15:50.42 | abrotman | Uzul: do you want a link for woody stuff or not? |
| 15:50.46 | greycat | valdyn: huh? |
| 15:50.50 | archpollux | valdyn: not when you have 10 machines to do this for and at the same time other things to do |
| 15:50.53 | paulswm | archpollux: you'll have to 'waste time' doing a proper config, or spend months writing a auto-config that would need to be changed every time kernel options were updated or drivers added/removed, etc, etc |
| 15:51.12 | Uzul | abrotman: yep of course |
| 15:51.13 | archpollux | paulswm: no problem with that |
| 15:51.17 | valdyn | archpollux: so compile one kernel for all machines? |
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| 15:51.24 | abrotman | Uzul: http://www.debianhelp.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB_14&file=index&action=viewtopic&topic=4853&20013 |
| 15:51.29 | archpollux | valdyn: machines are not necessarily the same |
| 15:51.31 | valdyn | archpollux: not like you would ever notice a difference |
| 15:51.43 | abrotman | Uzul: using that .. i got 9i installed |
| 15:51.45 | greycat | archpollux: just fucking run the debian kernel-image of your choice. |
| 15:51.47 | archpollux | valdyn: i'm not talking architecture, but hardware |
| 15:51.57 | archpollux | why do i even bother with this |
| 15:52.11 | valdyn | archpollux: dont, use a kernel image |
| 15:52.25 | paulswm | archpollux: if you start thinking about how you'd design one, I think you'd see how very complicated it would get |
| 15:52.29 | archpollux | i asked a simple question, i got 10 answers that avoided my question |
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| 15:52.48 | greycat | archpollux: you got the RIGHT answer to the WRONG question. You win. You just didn't REALIZE you won. |
| 15:52.49 | archpollux | paulswm: i'm already thinking about it for a while now |
| 15:52.50 | paulswm | archpollux: answer: No. |
| 15:52.55 | Uzul | abrotman: ok thx |
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| 15:53.03 | archpollux | greycat: k man |
| 15:53.04 | abrotman | Uzul: but it might give you somewhere to start |
| 15:53.33 | archpollux | paulswm: that would've been much better, thanks |
| 15:53.56 | paulswm | archpollux: this is a tough crown :) |
| 15:54.02 | paulswm | s/wn/wd/ |
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| 15:54.41 | valdyn | greycat: i found it, factoid is "custom kernel", thought that was yours |
| 15:54.47 | dupondje | i get now: Warning: The partition table looks like it was made |
| 15:54.47 | dupondje | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.47 | dupondje | For this listing I'll assume that geometry. |
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| 15:55.31 | paulswm | dupondje: and no arrir messages, right? |
| 15:55.39 | greycat | valdyn: ah... no, it's not mine |
| 15:55.41 | paulswm | s/arrir/error/ |
| 15:55.44 | greycat | !factinfo custom kernel |
| 15:55.44 | dpkg | custom kernel -- last modified at Thu Dec 30 20:06:32 2004 by justin!~justin@169.226.52.26; it has been requested 10 times, last by greycat, 25s ago. |
| 15:55.56 | dupondje | nop |
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| 15:56.24 | spamhog | Q.: Have process running in a tty, can I move it to another (ready, under screen) ? |
| 15:56.29 | paulswm | dupondje: you're running lilo? |
| 15:57.06 | valdyn | this looks like LBA vs whatever bios setting |
| 15:57.14 | greycat | spamhog: no. you have to start them inside screen. |
| 15:57.43 | spamhog | OK, bad news, cept for my knowledge! Thank you!!! |
| 15:58.02 | spamhog | booo hooooo |
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| 15:58.37 | pack | it's pretty off topic, but anyone ever seen serial data get corrupted because dma isn't turned on for disk access? |
| 15:58.37 | MitchK | Hi, im looking for anyone Interested in helping to make a Website in PHP In Detail a Gaming Ladder System, Payment will be a couple of hundred mb of webspace, some hosting for your stuff on a 100Mbit Box in perth Western australia if your interested can you please message me |
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| 15:59.03 | valdyn | dupondje: in which computer ( same or other ) and on which OS did you partition that disk? |
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| 16:00.50 | p30n | im trying to mount a fat32 disk so it can be world read/writable in my /site whats the proper cmd for mounting it 777 |
| 16:00.55 | greycat | pack: if you shove data into the serial port faster than the CPU can handle it, maybe. |
| 16:01.07 | greycat | p30n: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 16:01.44 | pack | eh, well i'm just accepting data from the serial port, the taxing is just like an hdparm -t |
| 16:01.53 | p30n | thanks |
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| 16:02.31 | dupondje | paulswm yes lilo |
| 16:02.32 | mwilson | pack: Well, yeah, if you're not servicing the serial port fast enough, what would you expect to happen? |
| 16:02.36 | p30n | greycat: is ntfs partitions easier to handle maybe? thougt if i should convert it maybe |
| 16:02.42 | dupondje | valdyn debian install |
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| 16:02.45 | greycat | p30n: no. |
| 16:02.47 | dupondje | but with old bios |
| 16:02.51 | dupondje | that couldn't see big hdd's |
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| 16:03.40 | valdyn | dupondje: could that old bios see that whole hd? |
| 16:03.49 | pack | seems odd though, i've never seen somthing like this happen, and why would dma fix the problem? |
| 16:04.01 | mwilson | pack: Why wouldn't it? |
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| 16:04.07 | dupondje | only 16 heads ... |
| 16:04.23 | mwilson | pack: With DMA enabled, there are more CPU cycles available to service other interrupts. |
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| 16:04.44 | greycat | pack: beating the CPU to death by making it service non-DMA ATA disk interrupts while simultaneously beating it to death by making it service serial port interrupts is a recipe for data loss. |
| 16:04.47 | valdyn | dupondje: thats not what i mean, could you access the whole space? |
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| 16:05.18 | pack | i spose, but it seems odd enough, it's a 2.4ghz cpu. |
| 16:05.18 | dupondje | yes |
| 16:05.45 | mwilson | pack: And what does that have to do with it? |
| 16:05.51 | Kerr_ | how can i use the grub ext2fs disk image i just downloaded, in windows XP? Xp ate this pc's mbr, taking grub with it. |
| 16:05.56 | jethro | how can I get 140euros back from a fucking lying coke addict? |
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| 16:06.03 | valdyn | dupondje: ok, in your new bios should be a switch for your harddisk, where you can change between LBA and whatnot ( i actually forgot ). Try switching for just that harddisk. |
| 16:06.05 | Phated | Beat it out of him? |
| 16:06.20 | jethro | Phated: that would imply that I can physically meet him |
| 16:06.31 | pack | seems like it'd be plenty fast to do an hdparm and take 8 readings a second from a serial port |
| 16:06.34 | jethro | I was thinking about having him fired from his company |
| 16:06.35 | Phated | Logic bomb it out of him? |
| 16:06.41 | jethro | yeah |
| 16:06.42 | valdyn | dupondje: that head number itself means nothing, since its just a mapping, not "reality". |
| 16:06.48 | jethro | like pictures of him shifting coke on their website |
| 16:07.17 | mwilson | I really don't know why I bother. |
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| 16:07.36 | Phated | Because you're a good, kind person, mwilson. |
| 16:07.42 | Phated | :) |
| 16:07.56 | pack | i just don't understand why this board is faster and technicaly a better board, and the slower ones i use havn't had any problems |
| 16:08.09 | greycat | pack: if it can't do DMA, it's clearly not "better" |
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| 16:08.22 | pack | greycat i'ts the compact flash that doesn't do dma |
| 16:08.24 | mwilson | Clueless people who don't understand software, make silly statements about how they think software should behave. Clueless people who don't understand hardware, make silly statements about how hardware should behave. |
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| 16:08.50 | pack | my apologies for wasting your time asshat |
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| 16:08.52 | jethro | mwilson: to put it in a few words, clueless people make silly statements |
| 16:09.05 | mwilson | I should just let them... if they crash and burn, what is it to me? |
| 16:09.10 | SlayerXP | mwilson: you bother? I didn't realise :) |
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| 16:09.27 | greycat | SlayerXP: like me, he keeps coming back to face more idiocy and abuse. We don't know why. |
| 16:09.38 | SlayerXP | !annoy greycat |
| 16:09.39 | dpkg | greycat: bash: FFS: command not found!!!!! |
| 16:10.06 | vorsprung | this is "idiocy and abuse"? |
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| 16:10.17 | afaik | anyone know where I can find those "Is there UNIX in your Linux" T-shirts handed out at the SCO city to city tour? That could stir up a riot at work ;) |
| 16:10.22 | p30n | when i try to umount my fat32 partition it says umount: /mnt/usb: device is busy |
| 16:10.24 | greycat | vorsprung: /lastlog pack |
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| 16:12.07 | p30n | how can i umount my fat32 partiotion? its sticky its wont let me umount it even if ive turned it off |
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| 16:12.21 | greycat | p30n: turn it back *on*! |
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| 16:12.31 | KarlosII | I guess the next update of debian will never come ie sarge |
| 16:12.36 | greycat | !sarge guess |
| 16:12.36 | dpkg | At a guess, sarge will be ready in about... 5 months, or see <guess>. |
| 16:12.45 | dvs | KarlosII: It only seems that way. |
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| 16:12.59 | KarlosII | greycat, that's what they been saying for the last 2 years |
| 16:13.02 | nome | abrotman: i feel it's gone |
| 16:13.04 | greycat | !sarge guess |
| 16:13.04 | dpkg | At a guess, sarge will be ready in about... 6 years, or see <guess>. |
| 16:13.06 | abrotman | only 94 left!! |
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| 16:13.13 | p30n | greycat: it says device is busy when im trying to umount it |
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| 16:13.16 | abrotman | nome: the drive? .. did #kernel tell you anything/ |
| 16:13.18 | abrotman | ? |
| 16:13.24 | dvs | KarlosII: Two years? You expected it to be released in 6 months? |
| 16:13.26 | greycat | p30n: cd out of it. kill all daemons running in it. |
| 16:13.41 | nome | abrotman: no but now under windows doesn't work |
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| 16:13.47 | KarlosII | dvs, it's ben 3.5 years sicne the last release |
| 16:13.50 | p30n | how do i check which daemons are running in it? |
| 16:13.56 | greycat | A graph of the Debian release dates vs. time should be interesting... |
| 16:13.57 | dvs | KarlosII: No |
| 16:13.59 | nome | abrotman: i hope it's just a cable |
| 16:14.04 | greycat | p30n: fuser, lsof |
| 16:14.10 | KarlosII | dvs, no what |
| 16:14.10 | dvs | !woody |
| 16:14.10 | dpkg | woody is, like, the current stable release of Debian, version 3.0, released July 19, 2002. Ask me about "potato->woody" or "woody install guide". |
| 16:14.13 | nome | i changed it since 2 mounth |
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| 16:14.35 | dvs | KarlosII: See, 2.5 years |
| 16:14.37 | tull | i have a problem booting the kernel. It says that get_console_fd: no such file or directory and freezes |
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| 16:14.44 | KarlosII | my mistake will be 3 soon |
| 16:14.54 | tull | and /usr/src/charset: bad file descriptor |
| 16:14.56 | greycat | it feels like 3 because woody *froze* 3 years ago. |
| 16:14.57 | KarlosII | still that's too long |
| 16:14.57 | tull | any ideas? |
| 16:15.05 | pole | anyone know of a pdf viewer that runs javascript forms? |
| 16:15.06 | Laney | is it possible to play modern games in vmware reasonably well? |
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| 16:15.14 | greycat | pole: that's SICK!! |
| 16:15.19 | abrotman | nome: oh .. that's definitely bad |
| 16:15.20 | greycat | !vomit on pole |
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| 16:15.24 | afaik | ugh... I have the id md5'd :/ |
| 16:15.27 | KarlosII | Laney, vmware has no directx video support |
| 16:15.36 | Laney | oh right.. hmm |
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| 16:15.41 | Laney | what's performance like on cedega? |
| 16:15.43 | pole | greycat, what do you do when you need to fill out a pdf form that is javascript enabled? |
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| 16:15.49 | KarlosII | Laney, convince to put in directx video support |
| 16:15.51 | greycat | pole: a lobotomy? |
| 16:15.55 | directhex|work | Laney, no. vmware isn';t designed for games, it emulates an old overlay-free gfx card |
| 16:15.58 | cipher | Hi man ! Don't forget to take a look to the new ROCK MUSIC FORUM on the net : ROCKIN' Bubbles : http://www.transmar-tunisie.com/forum/ |
| 16:16.02 | abrotman | Laney: #winehq |
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| 16:16.04 | KarlosII | Laney, good bug it's buggy |
| 16:16.09 | greycat | what the FUCK is a "javascript enabled pdf file"? |
| 16:16.12 | KarlosII | good, but it's buggy I mean |
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| 16:16.14 | Laney | okok |
| 16:16.15 | cipher | Hi man ! Don't forget to take a look to the new ROCK MUSIC FORUM on the net : ROCKIN' Bubbles : http://www.transmar-tunisie.com/forum/ |
| 16:16.16 | cipher | Hi man ! Don't forget to take a look to the new ROCK MUSIC FORUM on the net : ROCKIN' Bubbles : http://www.transmar-tunisie.com/forum/ |
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| 16:16.17 | resiak | greycat: Nonexistent. |
| 16:16.19 | Laney | i might just give it a go |
| 16:16.21 | nome | abrotman: bad period for my scooter's been stollen , my cell is at the assistence and now the cdrom |
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| 16:16.24 | nome | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 16:16.43 | nome | *for me |
| 16:16.46 | Obilan | hi |
| 16:16.53 | KarlosII | :/ |
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| 16:17.02 | abrotman | nome: your cell is at the assisitance? |
| 16:17.20 | KarlosII | that's what I was thinking too |
| 16:17.24 | nome | my cellular is broken :) |
| 16:17.28 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 16:17.31 | KarlosII | heh |
| 16:17.42 | nome | mobile phone nothing really important |
| 16:17.49 | KarlosII | I'd buy a treo 650 if it weren't so buggy |
| 16:17.59 | abrotman | nome: you can try another cable if you have it .. but the drive sounds bad .. |
| 16:17.59 | cyrille | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:18.07 | Kerr | I'm still trying to get debian back on my friend's pc. when he used grub to get back into xp, xp overwrite it, i have the grub boot floppy image (.ext2fs) but have no idea how to use it from xp. Any ideas? |
| 16:18.08 | abrotman | cyrille: #sql |
| 16:18.20 | dvs | KarlosII: My next phone will definitely be an organizer of some sort |
| 16:18.21 | KarlosII | xp is paia |
| 16:18.26 | KarlosII | pia |
| 16:18.29 | valdyn | Kerr: rawrite |
| 16:18.30 | Kerr | overwrote^^ |
| 16:18.31 | abrotman | pita ? |
| 16:18.42 | KarlosII | this is 3rd time xp won't dual boot anymore |
| 16:18.49 | abrotman | Kerr: you boot off it |
| 16:19.00 | dupondje | at boot i get flooded with errors like |
| 16:19.00 | dupondje | device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed |
| 16:19.00 | dupondje | device-mapper: error adding target to table |
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| 16:19.25 | KarlosII | on that aprtition |
| 16:19.59 | nome | dupondje: i don't know why but it happens always to me :P |
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| 16:20.43 | Little_Dump | can i build a kernel for my laptop on my desktop machine and use it on my laptop with no problems? |
| 16:21.02 | valdyn | Little_Dump: sure |
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| 16:21.05 | Starf^Work | lo |
| 16:21.07 | Kerr | valdyn: Thanks :) |
| 16:21.16 | dvs | Little_Dump: Sure, as long as you have the right drivers for the laptop compiled in |
| 16:21.36 | Starf^Work | whats the default mailserver for debian, i am runnign zencart off it and it needs a mail server on the localhost to be able to send emails |
| 16:21.38 | Little_Dump | dvs: yeah i would. i just wanna do it on my desktop because im more comfortable |
| 16:21.51 | Ungy_ | Starf^Work Exim |
| 16:21.53 | Kerr | I know i can get back to debian with the disk.. but how could i put grub back, and keep it back; safe from bill's evil clutches? |
| 16:22.10 | KarlosII | !sarge guess |
| 16:22.10 | dpkg | At a guess, sarge will be ready in about... 3 weeks, or see <guess>. |
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| 16:22.20 | quittt | !slackware |
| 16:22.20 | dpkg | [slackware] what we used to use before we had real distributions, or has 4,999 users, now that zatmac uses debian, or for the terminally masochistic, or like debian but without the good things, or the best linux distribution =), or smackware, or the best distrbution evar, or crackware |
| 16:22.20 | Starf^Work | Ungy_, that a server too? thought it was just a client, ok thanks |
| 16:22.24 | valdyn | Kerr: Im not sure what you did, XP doesnt just overwrite the mbr randomly |
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| 16:22.46 | Ungy_ | Starf^Work it is an MTA like Postfix Qmail Exchange |
| 16:22.49 | valdyn | Kerr: just when you install it it does |
| 16:22.51 | quittt | !redhat |
| 16:22.51 | dpkg | redhat is probably just a big redHACK! |
| 16:22.53 | Kerr | valdyn: Not my pc, i made the guy install debian so i can use his box as a fileserver. O.o |
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| 16:23.00 | quittt | !beos |
| 16:23.00 | dpkg | beos is probably a graphical operating system related to unix or non-free, or ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/BeOS/, or personal edition is free, dev tools in a seperate package at previous URL. kaput D.E.D. DEAD. see haiku |
| 16:23.04 | Ungy_ | seriously Sarge in 3 weeks? |
| 16:23.07 | Starf^Work | Ungy_, i assume it supports sendmail and smtp? |
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| 16:23.09 | Little_Dump | !gentoo |
| 16:23.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ |
| 16:23.18 | quittt | !haiku |
| 16:23.18 | dpkg | here in this channel / we write very bad haiku / readers all go mad |
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| 16:23.29 | manchot | which pkg has a font call 'fixed'? |
| 16:23.34 | Ungy_ | Starf^Work Sendmail is an MTA as well |
| 16:23.38 | valdyn | Kerr: burning your friends XP CD might be enough to avoid him reinstalling.. |
| 16:23.38 | Kerr | Beos was awesome. Serious lack of apps though. I had it forever ago. |
| 16:23.39 | Gathond | manchot: xfonts-base |
| 16:23.49 | quittt | Kerr, I have it |
| 16:23.54 | usn | hi all |
| 16:23.56 | quittt | Kerr, it stills great |
| 16:23.58 | Kerr | valdyn: he never, that's the ood thing. |
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| 16:24.05 | Kerr | quittt: cool :) |
| 16:24.05 | Gathond | manchot: at least that is the one you need if X bitches about not being able to find any fixed font |
| 16:24.13 | Starf^Work | Ungy_, right ok, so if i just want zencart to be able to send emails out to customers then setup exim and that should be able to handle it? |
| 16:24.15 | Starf^Work | sweet |
| 16:24.17 | Kerr | quittt: is the default WM still ugly as sin? |
| 16:24.19 | Starf^Work | thanks for help |
| 16:24.37 | quittt | Kerr, BeOS WM ugly?? |
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| 16:24.43 | valdyn | Kerr: oh, maybe his antivirus software restored his old mbr, some odd thing like that |
| 16:24.46 | quittt | I think it is beatifull |
| 16:24.48 | Ungy_ | BeOS was so awesome |
| 16:24.50 | manchot | Gathond: I have installed xfont-base. but in konsole, I can't find any font named fixed. |
| 16:25.08 | Starf^Work | AmigaOS too |
| 16:25.08 | Starf^Work | :) |
| 16:25.13 | Kerr | quittt: personal choice, i guess.I prefer icewm. |
| 16:25.17 | quittt | I am going to BeOS |
| 16:25.20 | Ungy_ | I remeber using it back in 97 great OS video was unparralleled on that system |
| 16:25.21 | quittt | I will be back |
| 16:25.23 | Kerr | anyhow, brb.. |
| 16:25.24 | valdyn | Kerr: other than that he'd have to manually type fdisk /mbr |
| 16:25.40 | Starf^Work | they need to make AmigaOS version for all chipsets :) |
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| 16:25.42 | valdyn | Kerr: probably in a recovery console, so uh, that doesnt happen incidentally |
| 16:25.58 | Gathond | manchot: usually fixed is a family of fonts, but dont know much specifix about it, perhaps it needs xfonts-100dpi or som such |
| 16:26.22 | valdyn | !fixed |
| 16:26.34 | Obilan | hey is the owner of dpkg interested in a ressource for unofficial xorg debs? i saw that dpkg still propagates the way of compiling xorg by hand. |
| 16:26.53 | jethro | just update the factoid |
| 16:27.02 | mwilson | Are they the usual quality of unofficial xorg debs? ie crap? |
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| 16:27.08 | valdyn | Obilan: which unofficial xorg debs? |
| 16:27.08 | Ungy_ | why would someone move ot an unsupported operating system? |
| 16:27.23 | Obilan | valdyn: i found those: http://debian.linux-systeme.com/ |
| 16:27.25 | randey | in sid, during booting what file is used for initilizing the modules? I have same modules in /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modutils/aliases. |
| 16:27.44 | jethro | randey: if you have to ask you shouldn't be running sid |
| 16:27.52 | mwilson | After all, we all know the world is going to end or something if clueless users can't create more useless transparent screenshots. |
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| 16:28.02 | quittt | I am at BeOS now |
| 16:28.05 | valdyn | Obilan: ok - you cant use that server from USA |
| 16:28.15 | valdyn | Obilan: its limited to germany or europe or somesuch |
| 16:28.21 | pack | greycat: send off my apologies to swilson, i wasn't aware serialports were so interupt hungry/sensitive to latency. i think cae.best.vwh.net/irqtune will help me. |
| 16:28.31 | valdyn | !xorg |
| 16:28.31 | dpkg | xorg is an alternative X implementation (fork of XFree86 4.4RC2) from X.Org, current release is X11R6.8. It won't be packaged for Debian until after Sarge release. See http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans for more information. Ask me about 'get xorg' for unofficial xorg debs. |
| 16:28.32 | quittt | who here liked BeOS? |
| 16:28.33 | randey | jethro : so no one will start experimenting ;) |
| 16:28.33 | Obilan | valdyn oh i didnt know that, sorry |
| 16:28.35 | dvs | randey: /etc/modules loads the modules, if that's what you mean |
| 16:28.44 | valdyn | !get xorg |
| 16:28.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, get xorg is Xorg is NOT SUPPORTED HERE. http://incubator.vislab.usyd.edu.au/roller/page/Steve/20040909 - but remember: YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. Xorg is unusably slow with transparency enabled. Don't bother. |
| 16:28.49 | jethro | randey: ask dpkg about sid |
| 16:29.01 | randey | dvs: ok thanks |
| 16:29.11 | dvs | randey: np |
| 16:29.29 | valdyn | Obilan: linux-systeme.de was remove from some factoid afaik, you can put it back though |
| 16:29.43 | randey | jethro : I know about sid, thanks |
| 16:29.51 | quittt | !beos |
| 16:29.51 | dpkg | [beos] a graphical operating system related to unix or non-free, or ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/BeOS/, or personal edition is free, dev tools in a seperate package at previous URL. kaput D.E.D. DEAD. see haiku |
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| 16:30.05 | jethro | randey: you don't sound like you do sorry |
| 16:30.33 | quittt | who here liked BeOS??? |
| 16:30.37 | Obilan | valdyn: how can i put it back? its not my site |
| 16:30.53 | valdyn | Obilan: trying |
| 16:31.02 | quittt | with who I was talking? |
| 16:31.18 | Kerr | bleh, no idea how to use grub. |
| 16:31.20 | Kerr | !grub |
| 16:31.21 | dpkg | grub is probably [grub] Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader that can boot a lot of OSes, understands a lot of filesystems including reiserfs.. Go here for an excellent step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, or a distributed internet crawler. |
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| 16:31.39 | Little_Dump | if i turn CPU frequency scaling on in the kernel when im building a new one, will it automatically throttle back when my laptop is on battery power? |
| 16:31.49 | valdyn | dpkg, xorg debs is Xorg Add to your sources.list: deb http://debian.linux-systeme.com unstable main |
| 16:31.49 | dpkg | okay, valdyn |
| 16:31.59 | directhex|work | Little_Dump, i think you need a daemon to handle it |
| 16:32.18 | valdyn | Obilan: everyone can mess w/ dpkg ) |
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| 16:32.31 | Little_Dump | directhex|work: you wouldnt happen to know which one or what i could look for would you? |
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| 16:33.44 | panda | how to read .ps.gz file? |
| 16:33.46 | directhex|work | cpufreqd ? |
| 16:33.52 | panda | how to read .ps.gz file easily? |
| 16:33.52 | directhex|work | powernowd? |
| 16:33.52 | zinx | panda: gv |
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| 16:33.58 | Kerr | ugh. info grub is unhelpful.. |
| 16:34.02 | quittt | http://200.162.231.13/beosrox.jpeg it is my BeOS |
| 16:34.10 | quittt | but Debian is much better =D |
| 16:34.16 | Obilan | valdyn ahh ok i get what you meant |
| 16:34.18 | zinx | panda: or any other postscript viewer :/ |
| 16:34.37 | panda | zinx, thx! |
| 16:35.48 | panda | another problem, how to bring a program back which is just disowned. I ran vi&, and then disowned it. how to bring it back? |
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| 16:36.25 | greycat | panda: you don't. you should've used screen instead. |
| 16:37.28 | Kerr | Quitt: last snapshot i took of my debian is this: but that was my old 2.4 installation http://www.angelfire.com/ego/nope/speedtime.png |
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| 16:38.05 | jethro | Kerr: does it look any better on 2.6? |
| 16:38.15 | panda | greycat, the problem is how i take that program back and continue to edit? |
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| 16:38.45 | YouCeyE | any deb packages for voice chat on yahoo? |
| 16:38.57 | Kerr | jethro: yeah. better resolution, icewmtray, etc. |
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| 16:39.22 | Kerr | are there any idiot-friendly grub manuals about? I'm sitting looking at my friends pc, and the grub boot disk; with no idea how to boot back into debian (he's stuck in xp) |
| 16:39.23 | azreal | hmm, no rox-filer rox-session packages in sid :-\ |
| 16:39.26 | greycat | panda: which part of "you don't" didn't you understand? |
| 16:39.27 | YouCeyE | Kerr, where can i get theme files for icewm |
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| 16:39.31 | jethro | Kerr: you mean kernel 2.6 helped with resolution and icewmtray? |
| 16:39.41 | YouCeyE | not themes.. icewmrc files |
| 16:40.18 | abrotman | Kerr: ask #grub |
| 16:40.19 | possie | is there away to list al exports from a remote host on a nfs server? |
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| 16:40.25 | doub | hi there |
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| 16:40.30 | jethro | possie: showmounts -e ? |
| 16:40.37 | Kerr | jethro: nope, my new install having a gforce4, 80gig drive, 2ghz processor, as opposed ot my old p3 450mhz, and ancient tnt card helped greatly with that. |
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| 16:40.45 | jethro | possie: showmount even |
| 16:40.53 | azreal | Kerr: theres a good article on LJ http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622 |
| 16:41.00 | jethro | Kerr: so what was the point in saying that it was the old 2.4 install? |
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| 16:41.16 | Kerr | YouCeyE: apt-get install icewm-themes i think ? |
| 16:41.19 | panda | greycat, there's no way to rescue that process now? |
| 16:41.36 | Kerr | jethro: 'cause it was O.o though i see how i should have been a little more specific. |
| 16:41.37 | greycat | panda: no |
| 16:41.41 | azreal | Kerr: its old, but still useful, i dont think much has changed since its writeing |
| 16:41.44 | liza | HI people! Have a nice day! |
| 16:41.51 | Kerr | azreal: thanks :) |
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| 16:41.55 | panda | thx! greycat |
| 16:42.01 | azreal | Kerr: np |
| 16:42.03 | jethro | Kerr: you don't have to, it's not like it is valuable information :) |
| 16:42.04 | greycat | "I tied my kitten in a sack full of rocks, and threw it in the lake, now how do I get the kitten to be alive again?" |
| 16:42.13 | jethro | greycat: black magic! |
| 16:42.22 | hi | During sarge install i chose to select packages manually but after it said "The following package would be install", are those obligatory packages? |
| 16:42.25 | Kerr | greycat: T-virus! |
| 16:43.15 | dvs | hi: Those are probably mandatory packages. |
| 16:43.41 | azreal | greycat: did you ever put tape on its feet? |
| 16:43.46 | doub | i've upgraded a laptop running sid, which seemingly ran out of battery in the middle of the upgrade. now some files (binaries, conf files, libraries), with no particular reason, are replaced with short 0 padded files, all of differing length. is it possible to repair this in place, or do i need to reinstall it all? |
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| 16:44.09 | hi | dvs: mandatory? |
| 16:44.43 | dvs | hi: I assume you meant "absolutely necessary" when you said obligatory |
| 16:45.44 | abrotman | base-packages |
| 16:45.44 | hi | dvs: is was bind. some lib packages, ssh i think etc.. |
| 16:46.12 | hi | are those packages in debian base? |
| 16:46.26 | jethro | no |
| 16:46.42 | greycat | ssh is not. "some lib packages" are. |
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| 16:47.21 | hi | but why did it installed those packages automatically if i chose manual installation? |
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| 16:47.39 | greycat | you selected ssh somehow. |
| 16:48.00 | azreal | hi: because some packages are "required" as part of base, or a dependency on base |
| 16:48.24 | dvs | hence mandatory |
| 16:48.28 | hi | greycat: i did tell it to scan the cd, but that was all |
| 16:48.42 | azreal | hi: or, something else that you picked depends on ssh |
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| 16:48.58 | dupondje | device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed |
| 16:48.58 | dupondje | device-mapper: error adding target to table |
| 16:49.07 | dupondje | does anyone has an id why i'm getting that error ? |
| 16:49.08 | hi | azreal: but i didn't pick anything |
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| 16:49.27 | pder | !irritate pder |
| 16:49.28 | dpkg | pder: Y iz debain so old? who uses sound hello? |
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| 16:50.18 | Shorty` | is there a package or task that will install most used C development/compiling packages? |
| 16:50.28 | abrotman | !b-e Shorty` |
| 16:50.29 | dpkg | Shorty`: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 16:50.32 | Shorty` | tah |
| 16:51.04 | hitu | which package has QT 3.0 |
| 16:51.04 | azreal | hi: dont know, but its probably something important that depends on ssh, maybe xbase-clients, or something else. |
| 16:51.10 | hitu | qt-mt even |
| 16:51.19 | abrotman | !tell hitu about search |
| 16:51.23 | hitu | i have QT installed .. but i dunno which version it is |
| 16:52.03 | azreal | hi: if it bothers you so bad, you could start over, and keep close track of what is happening |
| 16:52.10 | hitu | nice |
| 16:52.23 | hitu | i did try apt-cache |
| 16:52.55 | abrotman | apt-cache search libqt |
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| 16:54.02 | prad_ | damn it I don't know whats more frustrating windows XP or Samba |
| 16:54.03 | prad_ | :/ |
| 16:54.28 | SlayerXP | prad_: your comparison is invalid |
| 16:54.41 | hitu | hmmm |
| 16:54.50 | SlayerXP | you can't compare a brick to a building |
| 16:54.52 | hitu | it wants to remove like all of KDE |
| 16:54.59 | hitu | when i tried to install libqt3-mt |
| 16:55.17 | hi | azreal: i just did, i didn't leave the cd in after reboot install, in apt i chose to edit the file manually and leave it blank. none of those packages were installed, then it told i have 137 available packages to install, how do i see them? |
| 16:55.21 | prad_ | SlayerXP : no it is valid when I don't know where the problem is |
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| 16:56.19 | azreal | hi: use dselect |
| 16:56.40 | hitu | http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=31073 |
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| 16:58.01 | hi | azreal: i see those packages are also perl, phyton etc. So is probably important to have them there. It install them automatically for a reason. |
| 16:58.03 | greycat | hitu: the critical one from that list is probably "libqt3c102" |
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| 16:58.16 | plainzwalker | how do i automatically load a module at boot time? |
| 16:58.16 | greycat | hitu: find out why it wants to remove *that* one... and the rest may follow. |
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| 16:58.19 | baver|lappy | Looking at /etc/modules.conf after running update-modules, I see three lines for apm; however, I still have to modprobe apm manually after I boot up. Why? |
| 16:58.40 | dvs | baver|lappy: You have to change /etc/modules |
| 16:58.43 | hitu | okay |
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| 16:59.09 | baver|lappy | dvs: there's an entry in /etc/modules (file name apm) ... shouldn't that work, or do I have to add something else? |
| 16:59.22 | plainzwalker | nm....you guys answered the question for me :) |
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| 16:59.30 | dvs | baver|lappy: cat apm >> /etc/modules |
| 16:59.43 | baver|lappy | dvs: the values in /etc/modules are identical to the ones in apm |
| 16:59.51 | caphuso | dvs: echo apm |
| 16:59.51 | hitu | how do i find that out greycat .. |
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| 17:00.15 | dvs | baver|lappy: /etc/modules or /etc/modules.conf ? |
| 17:00.17 | greycat | hitu: trial and error? that's what I'd use. |
| 17:00.38 | baver|lappy | dvs: ahh, ok; thought it was just a typo |
| 17:00.42 | dvs | caphuso: That too (thanks) |
| 17:00.43 | hitu | trial and error? |
| 17:00.49 | azreal | hi: let it install what it needs the first time, after that your on your own to choose |
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| 17:01.11 | baver|lappy | dvs: thanks |
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| 17:01.20 | dvs | baver|lappy: np |
| 17:01.22 | azreal | hi: sometimes packages will be suggested, not required, but if something depends on something else, it will get installed automatically |
| 17:01.33 | baver|lappy | also, in X, whenever I try to drag a window by "grabbing" the title bar, the mouse become a big white box. Any ideas? |
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| 17:02.58 | hi | azreal: Yeah, that must the reason, thanks. |
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| 17:04.06 | Ashtars_fanclub | i have a question about alsa, i have a via8235, cmedian 9739a integrated chip, and it does not provide volume control at al, pcm can either be enabled (very loud) or disabled (nothing) master volume does nothing. It is said that alsa 1.08 makes this fixable by having software volume control but i don't know how to enable it |
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| 17:04.40 | pipeline | Ashtars_fanclub: set it to the maximum, then use esd to control the volume and do mixing. |
| 17:04.43 | Shorty- | wheres the "proper" place for bind zonefiles these days |
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| 17:04.51 | greycat | pipeline: ewww! |
| 17:04.56 | greycat | Shorty-: /etc/bind/ |
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| 17:05.08 | Shorty- | oh right, so no longer in var eh |
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| 17:05.20 | Shorty- | I feel good, because I've been putting them in /etc/ :P |
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| 17:06.10 | Ashtars_fanclub | pipeline: is esd good, compatible with every application or is there a chans that i will loose my hearing when some app isnt supported? |
| 17:06.23 | ricky_clarkson | Haha. |
| 17:07.13 | greycat | Ashtars_fanclub: why not ask #alsa? |
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| 17:08.48 | kingk | I was using kde, then I heard about xfce, so I tried it. Its cool. Now I wanna try fluxbox. First thing I did was try to kde again using startkde - error: could not open display. Then I tried to start fluxbox using startfluxbox - error: cannot connect to x server. Any help? |
| 17:09.13 | Phated | Closed xfce first? |
| 17:09.18 | kingk | yeah |
| 17:09.26 | Obilan | kingk echo "exec fluxbox" >> ~/.xinitrc && startx |
| 17:09.27 | Ashtars_fanclub | greycat: because i did but it took 15 minutes and noone answered anything |
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| 17:09.29 | mwilson | Tried actually RUNNING X? |
| 17:09.37 | pipeline | Ashtars_fanclub: esd sucks terribly, but most applications support it. |
| 17:09.44 | Phated | <shrug> startx /usr/bin/fluxbox . |
| 17:09.49 | mwilson | Launching an X client does kind of mean tha X has to be running. |
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| 17:10.11 | jetscreamer | startx -e fluxbox |
| 17:11.00 | kingk | I ran X |
| 17:11.04 | Ashtars_fanclub | pipeline: yes thats my picture of esd, isnt there a better sound server or whatever |
| 17:11.13 | kingk | but only blank desktop with no right click menu |
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| 17:11.23 | mwilson | <sigh> |
| 17:11.26 | Phated | You didn't start x the way you were told to. |
| 17:11.32 | jetscreamer | you initiated the framework |
| 17:11.37 | jetscreamer | you typed X |
| 17:11.51 | kingk | no, I am writing all the commands you guys gave me, but I have to exit before I can try them |
| 17:11.56 | mwilson | Phated: It's far more important to make up your own method that doesn't work... you know that. |
| 17:11.57 | Phated | startx /usr/bin/fluxbox, echo "exec fluxbox" >> ~/.xinitrc && startx, or startx -e fluxbox. |
| 17:12.06 | jetscreamer | ctrl+alt+bckspace |
| 17:12.06 | Phated | mwilson: <sigh> |
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| 17:12.11 | kingk | jetscreamer, yeah I typed X |
| 17:12.21 | jetscreamer | ctrl+alt+bckspace |
| 17:12.22 | drac | there is also /usr/bin/startfluxbox script |
| 17:12.35 | pipeline | Ashtars_fanclub: Sound servers are inherently bad. There's always jackd, but it's extremely complicated and requires decent drivers. Esd is meant to do what you need: Mangle audio to make up for how awful your card is. |
| 17:12.50 | mwilson | Phated: See? I told you. |
| 17:12.54 | Phated | Which of course doesn't work when you don't have X started. You could also do fluxbox & in an xterm. |
| 17:12.55 | pipeline | Ashtars_fanclub: Dollars to donuts, your windows drivers mangled audio in the same way and sucked just as much. |
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| 17:13.11 | Phated | Yes, mwilson. You're right. As usual. |
| 17:13.17 | Ashtars_fanclub | pipeline: i have an audigy2zs that i cannot use much due to irq problems |
| 17:13.27 | burd | what does discard do at port 9? |
| 17:13.37 | pipeline | Ashtars_fanclub: IRQ problems in this day and age? Crikes. |
| 17:13.42 | mwilson | burd: What does Google say it does? |
| 17:13.52 | jetscreamer | there is no ioapic |
| 17:14.02 | Zap-W | anyone know if there is a 2.6.x debianized kernel source with reiserfs4 patches? |
| 17:14.19 | resiak | !reiser4 |
| 17:14.19 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, reiser4 is If you want Reiser4, why are you using debian? |
| 17:14.22 | burd | google doesn't say anything, it's a eb page smart ass |
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| 17:14.47 | Zap-W | ?? |
| 17:14.49 | Obilan | zap-w get the patch from www.namesys.com |
| 17:14.50 | pipeline | Zap-W: If there were such a thing, I sure as shit wouldn't help you find it. |
| 17:14.51 | jetscreamer | Ashtars_fanclub, google ioapic |
| 17:15.09 | Zap-W | pipeline: well , just keep quiet then |
| 17:15.14 | jetscreamer | Zap-W, iirc you'll need the mm patch (or is it ac) |
| 17:15.18 | mwilson | Anyone who can't find Reiser4 crap by themselves has ZERO business pretending they know how to use it. |
| 17:15.26 | Ashtars_fanclub | pipeline: i think its due to creative abuse of the acpi standard, but i'm not sure, the problem can be solved by moving the card to different slots and manualy editing irqs |
| 17:15.31 | jetscreamer | i aways get them dudes confused |
| 17:15.39 | Zap-W | jetscreamer: it's still considered dangerous and experimental ....? |
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| 17:15.43 | pipeline | Zap-W: I sit in this channel in order to help people. Stopping you from using ReiserFS constitutes "help" |
| 17:15.45 | jetscreamer | there is no ioapic, Ashtars_fanclub |
| 17:15.46 | Little_Dump | how do i find out what kind of hardware i have through linux? namely i dont know what kind of audio card I have but I want to recompile the kernel and not lose my sound |
| 17:15.49 | xam | zap-w, jetscreamer: it's the -mm patches. several. |
| 17:15.53 | jetscreamer | Zap-W, no idea |
| 17:15.56 | pipeline | Zap-W: "Dangerous" and "experimental" are the tip of the iceberg. |
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| 17:16.45 | pipeline | Little_Dump: You can use tools like lsmod and lspci to explore the current system. Also, why bother compiling your kernel? I haven't configured and compiled a kernel in months. The stock kernels are pretty well thought out :) |
| 17:17.03 | Zap-W | pipeline: ah ok ,sorry, , just thought you were being sarcastic or something.. |
| 17:17.29 | xam | pipeline: 'experimental' most definitely. 'dangerous' I don't know. but most definitely not to be used on PC that might contain valuable data ;) |
| 17:17.38 | burd | mwilson: google says it is you... One that is discarded or rejected. |
| 17:17.44 | Ashtars_fanclub | jetscreamer: there is no ioapic ? |
| 17:17.47 | igraltist | Little_Dump, try lspci or cat /proc/pci |
| 17:17.51 | Little_Dump | pipeline: if i grab the debian kernel-package, is the .config file that comes with that what they would use to compile the stock debian kernel? |
| 17:17.55 | jetscreamer | Little_Dump, lspci -vv |
| 17:17.58 | Ashtars_fanclub | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.05 | jetscreamer | Ashtars_fanclub, obviously not eh |
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| 17:18.13 | Ashtars_fanclub | 43 users online noone saying a thing |
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| 17:18.48 | jetscreamer | Ashtars_fanclub, my sound card is on irq 209 iirc |
| 17:19.32 | xam | Zap-W: reiser4 is released, but that doesn't mean it is really stable for everyday use. It *might*, but more likely it has been officially released to get more people to use it and therefore more bug-testing |
| 17:19.39 | Little_Dump | pipline: I want to compile a kernel specifically for the Pentium M architecture with CpuFreq in it and IDE and EXT3 support built in so I dont need the initrd anymore |
| 17:19.56 | Ashtars_fanclub | is initrd a problem? |
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| 17:20.15 | jetscreamer | no, just can be a pain |
| 17:20.18 | jetscreamer | to set up |
| 17:20.20 | greycat | Little_Dump: "kernel-package" does not include a .config file. "kernel-image-foo" does, in /boot, as /boot/config-foo. |
| 17:20.22 | jetscreamer | if you ddon't know how |
| 17:20.54 | jetscreamer | when you use make-kpkg, the config of `uname -r` is automagically loaded unless you specify a different |
| 17:20.56 | Ashtars_fanclub | yea but running default kernel with initrd shouldnt cause any difficulties |
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| 17:21.15 | dvs | jetscreamer: Really? I never knew that! |
| 17:21.18 | jetscreamer | what is it about initrd, Ashtars_fanclub |
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| 17:21.33 | kingk | How do I shutdown xdm cause when I use the kill command I can't restart xdm without rebooting |
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| 17:21.34 | jetscreamer | dvs, yeah it does it here |
| 17:21.35 | RuffianSoldier | hey - i am banned from a website I havent been to before - how can I bypass the ban?lol |
| 17:21.41 | Zap-W | speaking of fs , i am looking for a tool that will scan for bad sectors in an old 1.6GB wd drive |
| 17:21.42 | Little_Dump | well I would compile a kernel from scratch if I knew what audio board I had. trying to save a bunch of power in my laptop |
| 17:21.46 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.58 | kingk | thx jetscreamer |
| 17:22.04 | jetscreamer | Little_Dump, lspci -vv >> list.txt |
| 17:22.15 | Little_Dump | jetscreamer: will do |
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| 17:22.27 | jetscreamer | or | less |
| 17:22.32 | dvs | Little_Dump: lspci | grep audio |
| 17:22.32 | Little_Dump | jetscreamer: its onboard, does that matter? |
| 17:22.44 | jetscreamer | or that |
| 17:22.50 | jetscreamer | no doesn't matter |
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| 17:23.22 | jetscreamer | Zap-W, go to the wd site and download dlgdiag |
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| 17:23.41 | whaq__ | hello my geek friends |
| 17:23.49 | jetscreamer | Zap-W, you may need the less modern version, but i think they upgraded the current to support older drives (not sure) |
| 17:24.00 | Ashtars_fanclub | jetscreamer: Little_Dump wanted to recompile seemingly to get rid of initrd and i thought it to be nearly pointless |
| 17:24.17 | jetscreamer | i lose initrd asap |
| 17:24.28 | paper | anyone know if its possible to install debian with 16meg ram? |
| 17:24.36 | jetscreamer | initrd is pointless unless you need to use it |
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| 17:24.47 | jetscreamer | think so paper, not sure though. |
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| 17:25.24 | Little_Dump | Ashtars_fanclub: i want to recompile so I'm not using generic x86 code. I want to optimize for my Pentium M and also compile in stuff so I can make my battery power last longer |
| 17:25.24 | paper | jetscreamer, the netinstall will not, unless there is a lowmem feature i didnt see |
| 17:25.31 | JRWR | hi jet |
| 17:25.38 | JRWR | more sound probs |
| 17:25.49 | jetscreamer | somebody might help |
| 17:25.59 | jetscreamer | i gtg but ask away |
| 17:26.02 | JRWR | this time KDE will plau sound but nothing else |
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| 17:26.31 | jetscreamer | load the midi module or something |
| 17:26.47 | ricky_clarkson | !remember me? |
| 17:26.47 | dpkg | How can i forget about ricky_clarkson ? That person is the greatest <fill in whatever is appropriate> in the whole wide world ! |
| 17:26.49 | jetscreamer | s/something/something along those lines/ |
| 17:27.00 | Ashtars_fanclub | Little_Dump is there specific optimisations for pentium m that arent available as modules running some i686 kernel |
| 17:27.14 | jetscreamer | ricky_clarkson, javablootbotboy :) |
| 17:27.14 | Little_Dump | Ashtars_fanclub: unknown |
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| 17:27.37 | Ashtars_fanclub | Little_Dump, get the source and have a look then |
| 17:27.57 | Little_Dump | do u know if cpufreq is compiled into the kernel that comes with debian? |
| 17:28.14 | Little_Dump | the 2.6 i mean |
| 17:28.20 | JRWR | XMMS will frez up when it trys to play a wav |
| 17:28.23 | jetscreamer | the module is there |
| 17:28.25 | Ashtars_fanclub | Little_Dump i think that alot of nice stuff are available as modules |
| 17:28.32 | JRWR | where? |
| 17:28.44 | JRWR | <=== boots laptop |
| 17:29.19 | Little_Dump | where is the file that controls what modules load on startup? |
| 17:29.34 | takatumi | Little_Dump: /etc/modules |
| 17:29.46 | JRWR | anywho |
| 17:29.46 | ricky_clarkson | What a hilarity-invoking nick, Little_Dump. |
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| 17:30.22 | greycat | Little_Dump: also the discover/hotplug configs. |
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| 17:30.29 | JRWR | KDE will play system sounds but XMMS or any thing else ether not trying to play sound or trys and frezzes |
| 17:30.46 | cilkay | Can someone please tell me which ODBC libraries are more commonly found on Debian systems (I don't have any) - iODBC or UnixODBC? |
| 17:31.22 | Little_Dump | anyone know why my acpi battery monitor would crap out sometimes and say the battery is almost toast when a second ago it was like 90%? |
| 17:31.25 | Zap-W | with cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdc1 , will kernel spit any Device errors , if it there is a bad sector ? |
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| 17:32.10 | doublehp | how to install apt on MacOS X ? |
| 17:32.11 | JRWR | Little Dumb: maybe a bad APM hardware or a bad battery |
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| 17:33.15 | takatumi | JRWR: why APM when ACPI is in question? |
| 17:33.19 | doub | i have trouble running grub on a silicon image IDE controlled hard drive (module siimage for the linux kernel). grub-install is stalled for more than an hour now. is it possible to use it with debian grub or do i need to recompile by hand? |
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| 17:33.34 | JRWR | takatumi: there that same |
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| 17:33.50 | resiak | cilkay: apt-cache search odbc |
| 17:33.54 | takatumi | JRWR: nope. |
| 17:34.03 | resiak | cilkay: Uh, sorry, I misunderstood the question. |
| 17:34.07 | cilkay | resiak, I don't have a Debian install anywhere |
| 17:34.08 | JRWR | little_dump:does the battery crap out too after a few mins |
| 17:34.19 | Little_Dump | JRWR: nope |
| 17:34.45 | cilkay | resiak, can you try it and let me know please? |
| 17:34.47 | JRWR | little_dump:did you try a diff program to read the battery status |
| 17:34.53 | Little_Dump | JRWR: if i look at /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state it looks to have charge |
| 17:35.27 | JRWR | <== would help if i had a battery for my laptop |
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| 17:35.51 | greycat | a laptop with no battery makes a perfectly good paperweight |
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| 17:36.06 | JRWR | and it has a bad plug too |
| 17:36.08 | resiak | cilkay: I completely misunderstood your question, so trying it wouldn't help. |
| 17:36.32 | JRWR | and every time i move it it turns off (linux does not like me doing that) |
| 17:37.53 | at0m|c | anyone knows if kernel2.4.something automatically supports my 82801 wifi card? |
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| 17:37.59 | pipeline | Little_Dump: Yes. You can copy it to a tree created by the kernel source project, do "make oldconfig" and then build the exact same kernel. |
| 17:38.10 | JRWR | anyway can any one help with my sound probs |
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| 17:38.47 | at0m|c | i think i can see the card when i lspci, but apparently it's masked as a pcmcia device on this toshiba 2450 |
| 17:38.56 | at0m|c | so its not all too clear :/ |
| 17:39.10 | rrohde | I am quite impressed with the SARGE installer.. it's my first Debian ever :) |
| 17:39.25 | JRWR | ya i have prob with my PCMCIA modem too |
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| 17:39.39 | at0m|c | wow the internet has joined |
| 17:39.42 | internet2 | hello, is possible to upgrade a live distro? |
| 17:39.58 | Little_Dump | is using the kernel-image package a pretty good idea? |
| 17:40.02 | dvs | at0m|c: IPng even |
| 17:40.11 | caphuso | internet2: there are no debian live distros, so you're in the wrong channel |
| 17:40.23 | internet2 | :/ |
| 17:40.36 | JRWR | what is it |
| 17:40.50 | JRWR | knoppix or something |
| 17:40.59 | resiak | !tell JRWR about enter |
| 17:41.05 | internet2 | I was asking because i was thinking if have any sense to have live cd for a secure firewall |
| 17:41.16 | cilkay | resiak, sorry, perhaps I did not explain clearly enough - with Mandrake, I can do: urpmi --test odbc to see what packages contain odbc. I'm sure there must be something similar in Debian. I suspect that unixODBC is the more popular of the two but cannot be sure, hence my question. |
| 17:41.25 | cilkay | resiak, sorry, perhaps I did not explain clearly enough - with Mandrake, I can do: urpmi --test odbc to see what packages contain odbc. I'm sure there must be something similar in Debian. I suspect that unixODBC is the more popular of the two but cannot be sure, hence my question. |
| 17:41.34 | at0m|c | dvs: i think it's just IP4, not 6 |
| 17:41.48 | at0m|c | dvs: if i understand IPng right |
| 17:41.57 | resiak | cilkay: Nice double-posting :) I'll have a look in a minute -- busy right now. |
| 17:42.01 | internet2 | cilkay, you mean dependencies? |
| 17:42.03 | dvs | at0m|c: I've heard that the IPv6 version of the internet was called "internet2" |
| 17:42.08 | at0m|c | ah lol |
| 17:42.11 | JRWR | and thats being over clocked |
| 17:42.12 | at0m|c | got it |
| 17:42.21 | cilkay | resiak, sorry, the top was cut off on the first one. |
| 17:43.06 | cilkay | internet2, no, I just wanted to find out which of the two you have a .deb for. I suspect you'll have one for unixODBC but not iODBC. |
| 17:43.07 | at0m|c | dvs: i had just asked about a network problem, i thought i hinted for a solution :o |
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| 17:43.35 | Little_Dump | how do i reinstall an old kernel if im sure my new kernel runs good? |
| 17:43.43 | Little_Dump | i mean uninstall |
| 17:43.46 | at0m|c | dvs: ...thought *you hinted... (pff getting late here eh) |
| 17:43.53 | at0m|c | nite all |
| 17:43.54 | dvs | Little_Dump: You don't uninstall the old one |
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| 17:44.12 | internet2 | cilkay apt-cache show? |
| 17:44.21 | prad_ | gawd damnit, I've got samba to work with XP and I don't know how... |
| 17:44.29 | internet2 | Little_Dump, just remove or don't load it :/ |
| 17:44.55 | internet2 | Little_Dump i mean the image, the system map, the initrd |
| 17:45.06 | internet2 | and off course the entry in you boot loader |
| 17:45.07 | xam | dvs: no, internet2 is a experimental wan used by scientist and engineers to develop and test new networking technology (hardware AND software), and IPv6 is one of the things they experiment with. However Inetnet2 doesn't mean IPv6 and vice versa |
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| 17:45.30 | cilkay | internet2, I don't have a Debian system. |
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| 17:45.38 | dvs | xam: oh, OK |
| 17:45.54 | Little_Dump | internet2: and the modules directory too i assume? |
| 17:46.08 | xam | dvs: I'm currently talking to you via IPv6, and I'm most definitely not using Internet2 |
| 17:46.11 | JRWR | Ok ill ask agine KDE will play system sounds but any thing else will not at all im loading GNOME rigth now to see if it does any better (system info) Kernel 2.4.18 | ESS maestro es1789 pII 333mhz |
| 17:46.13 | valdyn | Little_Dump: apt-get remove kernel-image-foo |
| 17:46.38 | paulswm | Little_Dump: apt-get --purge remove kernel-image... |
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| 17:46.47 | paulswm | heh |
| 17:46.48 | internet2 | Little_Dump, usually you can leave also if you don't load it, they don't take so much space and maybe useful |
| 17:46.58 | dvs | Little_Dump: If the kernels are different version, the modules directories will be separate |
| 17:47.03 | paulswm | modules take up a shitload of spacwe |
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| 17:47.18 | cahoot | JRWR: you *do* use the correct output device for xmms? |
| 17:47.42 | paulswm | well, if you always have a few kernels hanging around :) |
| 17:48.16 | JRWR | cahoot: /dev/dsp |
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| 17:48.36 | cahoot | JRWR: i e OSS chosen in the xmms options? |
| 17:48.43 | JRWR | yes |
| 17:49.02 | valdyn | JRWR: you cannot use oss from xmms while kde is running and already blocking that device |
| 17:49.05 | cahoot | JRWR: what does fuser -v /dev/dsp say? |
| 17:49.18 | FlopsyPete | I'm getting 'connection refused' trying to ssh into a Debian testing server (even from its own console). ps reports sshd is running. it used to work so I think I might have chosen some option with a dist-upgrade that turned it off - what should I be looking in order to fix this please? |
| 17:49.19 | JRWR | cahoot: im loading gnome now |
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| 17:49.36 | JRWR | cahoot: gnome looks fun anyways |
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| 17:50.06 | greycat | !connection refused |
| 17:50.07 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
| 17:50.13 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: youre trying to log in as root? |
| 17:50.19 | JRWR | cahoot: does it in gnome too |
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| 17:50.25 | cahoot | JRWR: what does fuser -v /dev/dsp say? |
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| 17:50.58 | FlopsyPete | valdyn: yes, but it gives this when I don't supply a username too |
| 17:51.13 | prad_ | . |
| 17:51.14 | cilkay | FlopsyPete, /etc/hosts.deny, take a look in there to see if it's set to reject ssh by default |
| 17:51.23 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: if you dont supply a username then the current username is used |
| 17:51.42 | JRWR | cahoot: /dev/dsp JRWR 679 f.... ESD |
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| 17:51.50 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: so if youre starting ssh as root, it will try to log in as root per default |
| 17:51.56 | Little_Dump | what im gonna do then is apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 then im gonna boot it and test it and if it works good ill delete the modules for the old kernel and the old kernel. then ill install cpufreqd which hopefully will work. does that sound good? |
| 17:52.15 | cahoot | JRWR: see ? the device is occupied by esd - set the apps to use esd |
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| 17:52.30 | FlopsyPete | I've tried as root and it didn't work. /etc/hosts.deny is empty |
| 17:52.32 | dvs | Little_Dump: Except for deleting the old kernel, yes |
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| 17:52.38 | qpee | hi, is there something on linux which comes close to ms's exchange server? |
| 17:52.43 | Little_Dump | dvs: whats wrong with that? |
| 17:52.45 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: nono, you just should not be root |
| 17:52.54 | resiak | qpee: What exactly do you want this theoretical product to do? |
| 17:52.58 | dvs | Little_Dump: In case things go wrong later on. |
| 17:53.00 | qpee | resiak: what i basically need is to have my calender data and tasks etc. from evolution online editable |
| 17:53.10 | qpee | noT much more :) |
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| 17:53.29 | shaym | hello |
| 17:53.36 | shaym | i need infos about mysql under debian |
| 17:53.37 | resiak | qpee: I have no idea: I was just pointing out that you really should be more clear what you're after. |
| 17:53.39 | FlopsyPete | valdyn: but thats unrelated to the fact its not letting me in. (there are no other accounts on the box other than root) |
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| 17:53.49 | Little_Dump | alright im out |
| 17:53.49 | Little_Dump | cyas |
| 17:53.52 | resiak | !cya |
| 17:53.52 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, cya is Cover Your Ass, or l33tspeak for "see you" |
| 17:53.54 | shaym | i can't start mysql command line to admin my databases |
| 17:53.58 | resiak | !tell shaym about enter |
| 17:53.58 | JRWR | cahoot: but KDE is using oss? |
| 17:54.00 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: well, ssh wont let you log in as root by default |
| 17:54.09 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: and if theres no other user, then you cannot log in |
| 17:54.11 | cahoot | JRWR: probably via artsd |
| 17:54.20 | JRWR | cahoot: ya |
| 17:54.21 | qpee | resiak: ok, thats nice of you |
| 17:54.30 | FieldySnuts | @lart arts{,d} |
| 17:54.37 | cahoot | JRWR: so the apps should be set to use artsd |
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| 17:54.57 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: root being the only user that can be logged in at all even locally would be a stupid idea to say the least |
| 17:54.59 | shaym | :( |
| 17:54.59 | FlopsyPete | valdyn: ahh, I see. I've always used Putty before, logging in as root which was ok with that, now I'm using Debian I tried ssh at the command-line instead and here I am |
| 17:55.06 | JRWR | cahoot: in XMMS it says eSOUND output or OSS |
| 17:55.08 | qpee | resiak: the problem is, that i don't even know how you call such software; if i'd know i would search for it on the web |
| 17:55.21 | JRWR | cahoot: or Disk wirter |
| 17:55.28 | FlopsyPete | valdyn: its a server in my flat thats only used for testing |
| 17:55.33 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: denieing root to log in is serverside |
| 17:55.39 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: i see |
| 17:55.39 | cahoot | JRWR: if you still are in gnome I'd say try esound |
| 17:55.42 | resiak | qpee: That's been my problem in the few minutes that I've looked into it. |
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| 17:55.56 | JRWR | cahoot: did not lke gnome in KDE now |
| 17:56.00 | FlopsyPete | valdyn: so the answer is to create another account and su from that? |
| 17:56.24 | RuffianSoldier | Message From Microsoft: You will have to reformat your computer once a year, and buy a new copy of Windows to be able to use your PC again. If you put any other OS on your computer (such as Linux) your computer wont be able to run Windows ever again, resulting in a complete system malfuction; this will cost you thousands of dollars in repairs! |
| 17:56.44 | cahoot | JRWR: then I suspect you need to install some artsd extension to xmms |
| 17:56.55 | resiak | RuffianSoldier: Shut the hell up. |
| 17:56.55 | JRWR | cahoot: where can i find them |
| 17:56.57 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: that would be the good way but uhm, check /etc/ssh/sshd_config, "PermitRootLogin" in there |
| 17:57.00 | kingk | Hi, I installed fluxbox, and you guys helped me start it with the command startx -e fluxbox, but this command only works in su mode, how can I run it as a regular user? |
| 17:57.12 | RuffianSoldier | lol |
| 17:57.34 | RuffianSoldier | resiak - it was a joke................ |
| 17:57.39 | cahoot | JRWR: I suspect xmms-arts - aRts Output plugin for xmms |
| 17:57.41 | RuffianSoldier | a politically correct one too! |
| 17:57.44 | kingk | I should already kow how to do it |
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| 17:58.07 | resiak | RuffianSoldier: Yeah, well, we don't care. Piss off. |
| 17:58.13 | cilkay | Can someone please do: apt-cache show | grep odbc and /msg me privately with the output? I would do it myself if I had a Debian system to do it with but I don't. |
| 17:58.17 | FieldySnuts | @win resiak |
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| 17:58.23 | resiak | kingk: Hmm... What error do you get if you try it as a normal user? |
| 17:58.24 | ravenbird | Congratulations, resiak! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 17:58.33 | resiak | FieldySnuts: :) |
| 17:58.38 | RuffianSoldier | Piss off? How do I do that? I know how to piss ON stuff, but how do you piss off stuff? |
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| 17:58.50 | resiak | RuffianSoldier: Shut the hell up. |
| 17:59.02 | FlopsyPete | valdyn: I get the same response when trying to login as another user |
| 17:59.05 | kingk | resiak, I don't get an error but when it loads and fluxbox starts it doesn't work. No tool bar at bottom and no application menu from mouse clip |
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| 17:59.19 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: mhallsmite mhall |
| 17:59.21 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: i haven't a clue |
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| 17:59.27 | FieldySnuts | bah |
| 17:59.30 | kingk | mouse click I meant |
| 17:59.31 | resiak | kingk: How long did you give it? I've had Fluxbox inexplicably taking ages to start when I've tried it. |
| 17:59.36 | JRWR | lol its a DEB pkg too! |
| 17:59.44 | kingk | But it starts fine as a su |
| 18:00.19 | FlopsyPete | valdyn: got it working. thanks. |
| 18:00.21 | kingk | resiak, I will try again and wait a while this time |
| 18:00.26 | kingk | c ya in bit |
| 18:00.27 | resiak | kingk: Sorry I can't be more helpful. |
| 18:00.32 | abrotman | !mhallsmite mhall |
| 18:00.32 | dpkg | Fuck mhall. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 18:00.36 | valdyn | FlopsyPete: how? |
| 18:00.44 | abrotman | or tries to anyways |
| 18:00.53 | kingk | resiak, thanks for help |
| 18:01.06 | valdyn | cilkay: that gives a huge list, looking for anything in particular? unixodbc? |
| 18:01.20 | qpee | resiak: i got a scent |
| 18:01.23 | cilkay | valdyn, that and iODBC |
| 18:01.28 | FlopsyPete | valdyn: my mistake. embarresingly. having not used ssh from the CLI before I just used 'ssh user IP-address' rather than '-l' or '@'. stupid me. sorry |
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| 18:03.03 | cilkay | valdyn, danke schoen:) |
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| 18:03.21 | kingk | resiak, strange but its working fine now, thx for help |
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| 18:04.44 | JRWR | where would my USB flash drive be listed as |
| 18:04.46 | poseur | BY. |
| 18:04.48 | kingk | how kde, gnome and xfce are know as desktop environment, whereas other like fluxbox are just window managers? |
| 18:04.58 | penta | this my vmstat output 1 0 7224 13460 292524 0 0 710 723 1274 547 18 9 34 38 |
| 18:04.59 | prad_ | If I am trying to unmount a partition, and it sez that it is busy, how can i find out what is using this partition ? |
| 18:05.03 | dvs | JRWR: tail /var/log/message might show you |
| 18:05.03 | FieldySnuts | JRWR: probably /dev/sdX where X is a or b or c or... watch logs |
| 18:05.06 | penta | which means i have bad io am ir ight how can i fxi i t |
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| 18:05.28 | FieldySnuts | at least the cf card when i plug in my cam always shows up as sda, assuming the right usb modules and usb-storage are loaded |
| 18:05.41 | FieldySnuts | oh and sd_mod too |
| 18:05.52 | paper | can anyone tell me the correct syntax for turning my swap on before loading the kernel during install? |
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| 18:06.11 | valdyn | paper: thats not possible |
| 18:06.28 | abrotman | it's a damn good idea thogh |
| 18:06.29 | paper | hrmm ok |
| 18:06.36 | abrotman | i'm not sure why .. but i bet it would great! |
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| 18:06.41 | paper | guess i cant install debian then heh |
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| 18:06.47 | mwilson | paper: Why would you think it was necessary to do things yourself, rather than simply reading the installation guide? |
| 18:06.54 | FieldySnuts | @lart paper |
| 18:07.26 | ricky_clarkson | !paper rock scissors |
| 18:07.26 | dpkg | scissors... *CUT* *STAB* *MURDER*. you're dead, i win! |
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| 18:07.28 | valdyn | paper: swap is used by the kernel and "turning it on" means to notify the kernel of its existance. So turning it on before the kernel is loaded cannot make sense |
| 18:07.31 | JRWR | wow i have to restart linux agen |
| 18:07.37 | abrotman | again |
| 18:07.51 | paper | valdyn, thank you for that, I am trying to find a way to install debian on my laptop with 16megs of ram |
| 18:07.54 | abrotman | valdyn: too much logic .. scale back please |
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| 18:07.59 | abrotman | paper: use woody installer .. |
| 18:08.47 | JRWR | ,,, hotplug is not working agien |
| 18:08.51 | mwilson | paper: Yes, what does that have to do with your non-understanding of swap? |
| 18:08.52 | abrotman | again |
| 18:08.57 | abrotman | it's spelled .. again |
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| 18:09.21 | prad_ | anyone ? |
| 18:09.21 | paper | I has nothing to do with it |
| 18:09.31 | abrotman | install woody |
| 18:09.37 | abrotman | it requires 16MB to install |
| 18:09.39 | abrotman | err 12MB |
| 18:10.03 | abrotman | and has the bf24 and you can later upgrade to sarge if you want .. i guess |
| 18:10.09 | abrotman | sounds like it's time to buy a new laptop |
| 18:10.32 | paper | abrotman, eh, it actually was something i found, someone was going to trash it |
| 18:10.52 | JRWR | never tash a computer that wirjs |
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| 18:11.02 | JRWR | wirks* |
| 18:11.02 | JRWR | works* |
| 18:11.03 | paper | thats why i took ot |
| 18:11.05 | paper | *it |
| 18:11.11 | abrotman | paper: oh .. maybe there's a reason for that :) |
| 18:11.16 | nvz | JRWR: did you get your Maestro2e working? |
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| 18:11.24 | JRWR | yes and no |
| 18:11.26 | ricky_clarkson | Hey, you could always look at your post *before* you press return. |
| 18:11.29 | hi | Doing " apt-get install fluxbox " will resolve X dependecies? |
| 18:11.34 | JRWR | now to get XMMS to work with arts |
| 18:11.36 | paper | abrotman, yeah, the hindge for the lcd is broke, had to rig it to work |
| 18:11.42 | abrotman | paper: lovely |
| 18:11.47 | abrotman | !tell hi about set up x |
| 18:12.02 | paper | abrotman, works fine tho, just cant open/shut it fast |
| 18:12.13 | abrotman | paper: yeah .. sounds ok |
| 18:12.15 | JRWR | mine a hunk of junk too |
| 18:12.20 | nvz | JRWR: I intended to help you with it, but jetscreamer who wasnt paying attention fully to your issue was acting like superman and trying to help you and 3 other people.. and since you were listening to his off-beat suggestions I gave up |
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| 18:12.33 | JRWR | well it work |
| 18:12.34 | ricky_clarkson | nvz: Nice. |
| 18:12.58 | JRWR | now any thing that uses OSS does not work |
| 18:13.25 | vmstat | Anyone here create XFS file system on a CD-RW? |
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| 18:14.01 | FieldySnuts | you can't do that, at least, that I've ever heard, udf only i think |
| 18:14.13 | nvz | ricky_clarkson: he had a minor problem and uxing woody with 2.2.20-idepci and jetscreamer was telling him to install ALSA and a bunch of other crap.. he just needed a real kernel like 2.4.18 and the Maestro OSS module |
| 18:14.34 | ricky_clarkson | Haha, I just stumbled across this from 1.5 years ago: |
| 18:14.37 | JRWR | thats what i did |
| 18:14.38 | ricky_clarkson | !rocky_clarkson |
| 18:14.38 | dpkg | [rocky_clarkson] a tpyo |
| 18:14.44 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 18:14.45 | JRWR | but the OSS driver |
| 18:14.56 | greycat | Hey rocky, watch me pull a lion out of my hat! |
| 18:15.01 | FieldySnuts | hahaha |
| 18:15.03 | nvz | heh |
| 18:15.04 | FieldySnuts | wow memories |
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| 18:15.19 | ricky_clarkson | !bob2 rock |
| 18:15.19 | dpkg | <PharN> bob2: YOUUUUUU RULEEEEEEEE... i was tryhing to make it work for 4 days... MAN thank you |
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| 18:16.04 | dondelelcaro | greycat: (re the lag) yeah, the network must have been lagged something horrible at that point in time. I've no clue why it was just sitting there. |
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| 18:16.19 | JRWR | so how do i install OSS drives for maestro |
| 18:16.41 | nvz | JRWR: do you not have them installed already? |
| 18:16.47 | JRWR | i dont know |
| 18:16.51 | nvz | JRWR: soundcore and maestro |
| 18:16.55 | nvz | JRWR: in lsmod |
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| 18:17.02 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: abuse OSS |
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| 18:17.46 | JRWR | nvz:both are |
| 18:17.51 | nvz | damn its like 1pm already |
| 18:18.19 | nvz | I'd like to think my clock is drifting again |
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| 18:18.37 | Zvpun | any clue how I can change the colors in irssi? |
| 18:18.40 | JRWR | nvz: but if i use XMMS with oss it locks up |
| 18:18.41 | Zvpun | I cant see myself |
| 18:18.49 | nvz | JRWR: what output plugin are you using in XMMS? |
| 18:18.50 | takatumi | heh |
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| 18:18.56 | ricky_clarkson | Zvpun: /topic #irssi |
| 18:19.01 | Zvpun | thanks |
| 18:19.02 | JRWR | nvz:OSS |
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| 18:19.13 | dvs | nvz: JRWR is using Gnome sounds too, right? |
| 18:19.23 | JRWR | nvz: no KDE |
| 18:19.27 | valdyn | Zvpun: shortcut maybe - change your terminals colors |
| 18:19.30 | cahoot | dvs: not the last 10 mins - back to kde |
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| 18:19.32 | nvz | dvs: artsd |
| 18:19.32 | FieldySnuts | wenas who uses kde hello ?? heh |
| 18:19.41 | ricky_clarkson | No KDE? Sounds like heaven. |
| 18:19.45 | JRWR | nvz: im using ArtS in KDE |
| 18:19.55 | JRWR | i like KDE |
| 18:20.02 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: say !irritate ricky_clarkson |
| 18:20.02 | ricky_clarkson | So, who's a KDE-fiddler here? |
| 18:20.04 | ravenbird | !irritate ricky_clarkson |
| 18:20.05 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson: Y iz debain so old? where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol lol |
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| 18:20.56 | nvz | JRWR: personally I would ditch artsd, but thats a question for more KDE or XMMS people, XMMS has an esound output plugin, but not an arts plugin that I can see |
| 18:21.23 | nvz | JRWR: if you use kde and artsd, you should also use their multimedia players I would think |
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| 18:21.50 | JRWR | but i cant fins any |
| 18:21.56 | pder | does debian support chat? |
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| 18:22.05 | nvz | JRWR: #debian-kde, #kde, #xmms |
| 18:22.06 | FieldySnuts | define chat please? |
| 18:22.11 | JRWR | and what would my USB flash drive be listed as |
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| 18:22.25 | FieldySnuts | we already went over that, see my previous shittoo |
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| 18:22.43 | dvs | JRWR: do "tail -f /var/log/messages" as root then plug it in |
| 18:22.45 | JRWR | well its not listed undr sd* |
| 18:22.56 | nvz | JRWR: you would need scsi generic (sg), scsi disk (sd_mod), and it would show up as a scsi drive.. not to mention USB Mass Storage driver |
| 18:23.42 | ricky_clarkson | pder: apt-cache show talk |
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| 18:25.09 | misterbonnie | run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/man-db exited with return code 2 |
| 18:25.14 | nvz | I need to try and decide what I am going to do here and get it setup :P I backed up the 21GB on my 120GB reiser FS partition to a 60GB ext3 partition to wipe that out and use it.. I just havent determined yet how I will use it. |
| 18:25.20 | misterbonnie | anyone know what this means |
| 18:25.46 | nvz | I got too many hds in all my systems at this point, and they are loud and wasting space |
| 18:26.32 | Blissex | nvz: that happens. Most recent disks are fairly quiet however. Changing a couple made a very big difference to the noisiness of my box. |
| 18:26.57 | Blissex | nvz: also, putting in a bit of damping for the vibrations. Disks can make the whole case vibrate... |
| 18:27.14 | Blissex | nvz: so the fewer the disks, the much lower the noise. |
| 18:27.19 | nvz | Blissex: yeah I bought a 120GB a while back and just put reiserfs on the whole thing.. first time I ever tried reiser.. I knew if I got more than 60 or so gb on there I would not easily be able to change it without loosing data |
| 18:27.31 | abli | Hi! after installing the graphviz-dev package, I am trying to compile a C program that uses graphviz libs. After "gcc -lgraph -ldotgen -L/usr/lib/graphviz/ simple.o -o simple", "ldd simple" shows 'not found' for the graphviz libs. LD_LIBRARY_PATH contains /usr/lib/graphviz . What am I doing wrong? |
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| 18:28.02 | Blissex | nvz: my rule is that I always buy 3 backups hard disks for every disk I buy. This also makes repartitioning etc. pretty easy. |
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| 18:28.12 | nvz | Blissex: I am going to partition it out now and use the first 20gb or so for /boot, /, and swap, and probably use the rest for /home, and start keeping my samba shares in /home/smbguest |
| 18:28.50 | Blissex | nvz: not too bad. |
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| 18:29.40 | Blissex | nvz: my usual rule is to give names to filesystems, and then 'mount --bind' or 'ln -s' them to the right place in the hierarchy. |
| 18:29.48 | Blissex | nvz: this is slightly tidier. |
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| 18:30.22 | nvz | Blissex: my first plan with samba was using the whole 120gb and there were only two ways to get in, as nvz with a password, or as guest without one.. and it would let you read, but only write to Upload/ now that I am giving the kid access to samba I am revising the permissions a bit, because there are certain things I dont feel are appropriate for her |
| 18:30.49 | JRWR | ok how do i mount a fat floppy |
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| 18:31.04 | ricky_clarkson | And that's a real question? |
| 18:31.14 | Blissex | JRWR: there should be ready made entries for you in '/etc/fstab' |
| 18:31.25 | abli | any ideas? |
| 18:31.28 | Blissex | JRWR: try 'mount /mnt/floppy' for example. |
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| 18:31.43 | dvs | JRWR: mount /floppy |
| 18:31.50 | JRWR | does not work |
| 18:32.05 | dvs | JRWR: What does not work? |
| 18:32.10 | ricky_clarkson | JRWR: How does it fail? |
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| 18:32.17 | nvz | my current idea stems off the old idea, but I might just end up having to use completly different access permissions |
| 18:32.22 | JRWR | must pass a fliesystem type |
| 18:32.31 | streuner_ | DarIce not compiled with lame support, i have in the config file mp3 as format, why do i get this error-message= |
| 18:32.33 | streuner_ | ? |
| 18:32.36 | ricky_clarkson | JRWR: Have you an entry for the floppy drive in /etc/fstab? |
| 18:32.41 | Blissex | abli: are you sure that you understand correctly the difference betwen 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH' and the '-L' option to 'ld'/'gcc'? |
| 18:32.44 | dvs | JRWR: cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy |
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| 18:33.06 | valdyn | !mtools |
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| 18:33.33 | abli | no. is there a difference? |
| 18:33.49 | Blissex | abli: I suspect there is one :-). |
| 18:34.06 | JRWR | it says /dev/fd0 /floppy auto user,noqutp 0 0 |
| 18:34.16 | dvs | JRWR: mount /floppy |
| 18:34.18 | JRWR | user,noauto |
| 18:34.19 | abli | and what is it? |
| 18:34.31 | JRWR | says it agien |
| 18:34.45 | dvs | JRWR: mount -t vfat /floppy |
| 18:34.54 | vmstat | How i create UDF fs on a cd-rw? |
| 18:35.01 | dvs | JRWR: Oh, modprobe vfat |
| 18:35.11 | Blissex | abli: I now suspect that you should read a bit more about development under UNIX/Linux. |
| 18:35.16 | Blissex | abli: I now suspect that you should read a bit more about development under UNIX/Linux. |
| 18:35.33 | JRWR | err |
| 18:35.41 | Blissex | abli: as a quick fix, add the directory where the GraphViz libraries are to the 'gcc' command line as '-L....' |
| 18:35.44 | nvz | for my basic home setup I just have rw access to the owner, my user, and ro access as smbguest group, and then the other (world-readable) permission bit is what I use for the kid's access. It seems to work so far |
| 18:35.58 | poseur | Latvijas Republika |
| 18:36.16 | LSorensen | JRWR: what fielsystems might be on /floppy ever? If you know you could list them in place of auto like: ext2,vfat,minix |
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| 18:36.23 | LSorensen | JRWR: tells it what to try and search for |
| 18:36.26 | abli | Blissex, I already did that: "-L/usr/lib/graphviz/" is in it. |
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| 18:36.38 | SNow | Hi, i want to add few ipv4 aliases to my vr0 interface, i do: ifconfig vr0 inet IP netmask NETMASK alias, then the route command, and nothing, it get's ping but it doesn't connect to irc, what should I DO? |
| 18:36.39 | dvs | JRWR: err? |
| 18:36.42 | JRWR | ....... |
| 18:36.43 | Blissex | abli: then that is not the right directory... |
| 18:36.47 | setdisdouz | Hello there |
| 18:36.51 | JRWR | i fotgot to put the floppy in there~ |
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| 18:36.58 | dvs | !smite JRWR |
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| 18:37.03 | JRWR | lol |
| 18:37.04 | Blissex | abli: I am installing 'graphviz-dev' just to check where things are. |
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| 18:37.21 | dvs | air is not a filesystem! |
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| 18:37.27 | JRWR | I JUST WHANT TO PLAY A MP3 WHY MUST IT BE THIS HARD! |
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| 18:37.35 | totzilla | what command shows free disk space? |
| 18:37.41 | drac | totzilla: df -h |
| 18:37.55 | SNow | Hi, i want to add few ipv4 aliases to my vr0 interface, i do: ifconfig vr0 inet IP netmask NETMASK alias, then the route command, and nothing, it get's ping but it doesn't connect to irc, what should I DO? |
| 18:37.55 | totzilla | thanks drac |
| 18:38.08 | ricky_clarkson | JRWR: Something that is easy for one is hard for another. |
| 18:38.27 | stego | I don't mean to start a flame war here, but what are people's opinions on Debian vs Gentoo on the desktop? |
| 18:38.40 | ricky_clarkson | stego: ***FIRE*** |
| 18:38.52 | Blissex | abli: actually it is indeed, surprisingly, '/usr/lib/graphviz'. What was your command line and error again (scrolled off here). |
| 18:38.56 | valdyn | !gentoo |
| 18:38.56 | dpkg | gentoo is probably a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ |
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| 18:39.06 | abli | Hi! after installing the graphviz-dev package, I am trying to compile a C program that uses graphviz libs. After "gcc -lgraph -ldotgen -L/usr/lib/graphviz/ simple.o -o simple", "ldd simple" shows 'not found' for the graphviz libs. LD_LIBRARY_PATH contains /usr/lib/graphviz . |
| 18:39.17 | valdyn | stego: /msg dpkg polls |
| 18:39.29 | stego | valdyn, ok, thanks for that! |
| 18:39.31 | xam | !start a distro war |
| 18:39.31 | dpkg | Rock 0wnz! |
| 18:39.46 | abli | ldd shows stuff like "libdotgen.so.0 => not found" |
| 18:39.57 | Blissex | abli: ahhhhhh, try to put the libraries "-lgraph -ldotgen" at the very end. |
| 18:40.01 | nvz | stego: http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://www.debian.org/social_contract |
| 18:40.01 | ricky_clarkson | stego: Depends on the desktop user. A Debian user either uses old stuff, or puts up with some instability. A Gentoo user has less stability than Debian is capable of, but more than a Debian testing or unstable user. Of course, Gentoo has a quite serious inner conflict, about the use of binary packages. |
| 18:40.25 | Blissex | abli: also, 'libdotgen.so.0' is the _runtime_ library. |
| 18:40.29 | Zvpun | abli: did you install libgraphiz? |
| 18:40.37 | nvz | stego: this is not the place for opinions, use the web |
| 18:40.39 | setdisdouz | I'd just like to know if Debian install on Apple Computer is still such a pain it looks like... |
| 18:40.48 | Blissex | abli: and the runtime libraries are in another package, not 'graphviz-dev', as Zvpun says. |
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| 18:41.10 | Epesh | hey all |
| 18:41.13 | Zvpun | hi |
| 18:41.14 | Obilan | ricky_clarks: gentoo is all about choice, and its a meta distribution, so how shall they make binaries for all the different architectures and all the features (configureflags) |
| 18:41.22 | ricky_clarkson | Epesh: Eek. |
| 18:41.26 | Epesh | how the heck do Iget exim to handle external email, listen on port 25, etc? |
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| 18:41.48 | xam | Epesh: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config? |
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| 18:41.51 | ricky_clarkson | Obilan: They don't have to, they just need to provide binaries for the most common architecture and the most wide-ranging features. |
| 18:41.58 | Epesh | xam: ah, of course :P |
| 18:42.35 | Obilan | ricky_clarks: i guess there are these GRP sets to install kde/gnome/mozilla stuff as binary |
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| 18:42.39 | stego | Ok all great points, thank you. Back in the day, Debian was what got me into Linux. A brief sejourn to another OS (don't ask) and I'm just wondering if things are rosy on the desktop front. I remember slow releases of KDE (for example) were a bit of a pain. Do you guys ever get frustrated at the release cycle? |
| 18:43.04 | Zvpun | stego: yes, I do |
| 18:43.21 | hypnox | no, it's very fast in unstable |
| 18:43.27 | abli | Zvpun, are you sure that is the correct name? "apt-cache search libgraphiz" doesnt find it. |
| 18:43.38 | Obilan | testing is fast too ;) |
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| 18:43.40 | Epesh | It's still not listening on port 25 :( |
| 18:43.47 | ricky_clarkson | Obilan: My nick is not ricky_clarks. |
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| 18:43.57 | takatumi | ricky_clarkson: "A Gentoo user has less stability than Debian is capable of, but more than a Debian testing or unstable user", not true in my experience. |
| 18:43.59 | Zvpun | abli: I am not sure about the correct name |
| 18:43.59 | ricky_clarkson | Obilan: Yep, wrt GRP. |
| 18:44.05 | ricky_clarkson | takatumi: Elaborate. |
| 18:44.14 | Zvpun | albi: if you know the library name, you can apt-file search fooo |
| 18:44.17 | Obilan | ricky_clarkson: sorry i dont see more letters :/ |
| 18:44.29 | Blissex | abli: what about using wonderful 'aptitude' or 'synaptic' or just doing 'apt-cache search graphviz'? |
| 18:44.33 | ricky_clarkson | Obilan: Your IRC client is shit. |
| 18:44.45 | Obilan | its not, your nick is too long ;) |
| 18:44.55 | ricky_clarkson | No, the network sets maximum nick length. |
| 18:44.56 | takatumi | ricky_clarkson: on the second part of that statement. even unstable seems more stable than gentoo. |
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| 18:45.27 | ricky_clarkson | takatumi: Why? |
| 18:45.27 | abli | Zvpun, anyway, i have graphviz installed, and I _have_ a libgraph.so.0 in /usr/lib/graphviz/, but ldd somehow won't find it. |
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| 18:45.34 | valdyn | stego: testing is fine for a desktop, and its software is recent enough |
| 18:45.43 | barra | hello I've got a server but I'm not sure with ethernet card it has. Therefore how could I know which module is to load ?! |
| 18:45.48 | stego | How do you define "unstable"? The computer locks, or too many conflicts -> messy? |
| 18:46.06 | dvs | barra: Try "lspic | grep eth" and print it here |
| 18:46.11 | valdyn | stego: not at all, it means in a state of flux and untested, it doesnt crash |
| 18:46.20 | greycat | dvs: YM lspci. HTH. |
| 18:46.22 | dvs | stego: In Debian, unstable means the packages change all the time |
| 18:46.26 | takatumi | ricky_clarkson: as I said, that is from my experience of using gentoo for about 6 months and debian for ~5 months. |
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| 18:46.30 | _rene_ | stego: averything can happen |
| 18:46.32 | Epesh | argh, there we go |
| 18:46.40 | Phated | Including crashes. |
| 18:46.42 | stego | valdyn, sorry not, Debian unstable : ) Just when you say "so and so is unstable" |
| 18:46.44 | dvs | greycat: Thanks |
| 18:46.46 | _rene_ | stego: it can lock up, it can refuse to boot. broken packages happen all time |
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| 18:47.19 | valdyn | !dict unstable |
| 18:47.20 | barra | dvs: Its a VIA Technologies, Inc. Ethernet Controller (rev78) |
| 18:47.22 | dpkg | Dictionary 'unstable' (3 shown; 7 total): disposed to psychological variability; "his rather unstable religious convictions" ;; lacking stability or fixity or firmness; "unstable political conditions"; "the tower proved to be unstable in the high wind"; "an unstable world economy" ;; Unstable \Un*sta"ble\, a. [Cf. Instable.] Not stable; not firm, fixed, or constant; subject to change or overthrow. -- Un*sta"ble*ness, n. Chaucer.. |
| 18:47.35 | LSorensen | barra: aka via-rhine? |
| 18:47.38 | ricky_clarkson | takatumi: Anything tangible? |
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| 18:47.41 | abrotman | barra: the actual line would be good |
| 18:47.52 | stego | :-) Thank you all. |
| 18:47.59 | Epesh | xam: danke, I thought I'd configured it properly to begin with, but had not :) |
| 18:48.00 | barra | I should load via-rhine ? |
| 18:48.03 | directhex | sounds like rhine or somesuch. doubt it has any support in a woody kernel |
| 18:48.08 | dgc | anyone here use apt-proxy? |
| 18:48.12 | LSorensen | barra: most likely |
| 18:48.12 | zarchne | people often use "stable" when they mean "robust" it seems to me. |
| 18:48.19 | SNow | Hi, i want to add few ipv4 aliases to my vr0 interface, i do: ifconfig vr0 inet IP netmask NETMASK alias, then the route command, and nothing, it get's ping but it doesn't connect to irc, what should I DO? |
| 18:48.21 | takatumi | ricky_clarkson: tangible in terms of what? peace of mind? |
| 18:48.26 | greycat | zarchne: yeah, damned human languages! |
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| 18:48.39 | dvs | barra: What does the actual line say? |
| 18:48.41 | ricky_clarkson | takatumi: As in actual things that you can identify, rather than just emotive arguments. |
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| 18:50.22 | barra | can't locate module via-rhine... |
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| 18:50.38 | barra | dvs: can't locate module via-rhine... during modconf |
| 18:50.45 | abrotman | uname -r |
| 18:50.57 | barra | dvs: I installed a new kernel and now my server don't boot |
| 18:51.21 | barra | abrotman: 2.4.18-k7 |
| 18:51.24 | directhex | !woody hardware support |
| 18:51.24 | dpkg | from memory, woody hardware support is firmly rooted around its freeze date - January 2002. It won't support new graphics cards (Geforce 4 or higher), disk controllers (Serial ATA), disks over 137Gb (LBA48), sound cards (nForce2), ethernet (e100, forcedeth), etc. Just run Sarge. |
| 18:51.31 | abrotman | yeah .. but woody should have via-rhine |
| 18:51.33 | directhex | ^^ the above, but you need your own 2.4.29 rather than sarge |
| 18:51.53 | SNow | Hi, i want to add few ipv4 aliases to my vr0 interface, i do: ifconfig vr0 inet IP netmask NETMASK alias, then the route command, and nothing, it get's ping but it doesn't connect to irc, what should I DO? |
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| 18:52.05 | barra | 2.4.18 hasn't the drivers ? |
| 18:52.06 | abrotman | barra: can you navigate to the directory where the modules are? |
| 18:52.11 | barra | yes |
| 18:52.18 | takatumi | ricky_clarkson: what actual things are you looking for? stability on debian has been supreme so far, have not had a system freeze or a segfault yet, not even one, while I had a few in gentoo. |
| 18:52.19 | barra | in modconf |
| 18:52.22 | abli | Any other ideas? |
| 18:52.25 | abrotman | barra: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net .. or something like that |
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| 18:52.39 | shaym | i can' tchange the root password of mysql under debian :( |
| 18:52.48 | shaym | even with /root/.my.cnf |
| 18:52.56 | ricky_clarkson | takatumi: Stuff like segfaults or failed dependencies, builds that don't, etc. |
| 18:52.57 | abrotman | barra: go back to command line .. and `modprobe via-rhine` |
| 18:52.58 | resiak | shaym: Uhm, RTFM. |
| 18:52.59 | hi | takatumi: Sarge? |
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| 18:53.13 | shaym | resiak: what FM ? |
| 18:53.13 | takatumi | hi: sid |
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| 18:53.23 | barra | abrotman: can't locate module via-rhine |
| 18:53.37 | abrotman | barra: erm .. and you're running 2.4.18-k7 ? |
| 18:53.39 | abrotman | right now? |
| 18:53.40 | resiak | shaym: The FM. |
| 18:53.45 | resiak | shaym: The mysql FM. |
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| 18:53.52 | barra | abrotman: yes |
| 18:53.58 | AMHA | hello |
| 18:54.04 | takatumi | ricky_clarkson: switched over about 6 months ago, don't have any logs if that is what you are implying. |
| 18:54.10 | zarchne | My USB stopped working. Anyway to reset it without rebooting? |
| 18:54.27 | resiak | !doesn't work |
| 18:54.27 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 18:54.41 | abrotman | is it just my imagination .. or is packages.d.o borked? |
| 18:54.48 | directhex | abrotman, worksforme |
| 18:54.52 | zarchne | resiak: I didn't ask to solve the issue, just to reset it. |
| 18:54.55 | shaym | it's not a mysql specific problem |
| 18:54.59 | shaym | it's a debian feature |
| 18:54.59 | AMHA | I'm looking for the simplest guide to install a debian on multiboot with windows ... please, anny one have anny good link ? |
| 18:55.04 | abli | aaargh, that hurt. Turned out I did set "LD_LIBRARY_PATH" but didn't export it. bleh. it works now. |
| 18:55.04 | abrotman | ah .. there we go |
| 18:55.08 | resiak | shaym: I'm sorry? |
| 18:55.13 | abrotman | directhex it wasn't bringing up a list i thought it hsould have |
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| 18:55.19 | resiak | zarchne: What do you mean, reset? |
| 18:55.22 | Morrowyn | is there also a 2.6.10 kernel image in the package tree? |
| 18:55.23 | LSorensen | shaym: did you try this: http://www.alt-php-faq.org/local/70/ |
| 18:55.42 | takatumi | Morrowyn: in the unstable branch, yes. |
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| 18:55.48 | abrotman | barra: i'm not sure what's going on .. but that module is in the -k7 kernel package |
| 18:55.49 | Morrowyn | ok |
| 18:56.00 | abrotman | barra: what does `uname -a` say? |
| 18:56.13 | Morrowyn | thats the sid branch right? |
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| 18:56.45 | resiak | Morrowyn: Yes. |
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| 18:57.01 | Morrowyn | hmmm, ill stick to sarge |
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| 18:57.14 | Morrowyn | and wait till .10 comes out and use .8 |
| 18:57.16 | barra | abrotman: the same version |
| 18:57.44 | abrotman | barra: if you're really running 2.4.18-1-k7 .. and you've no via-rhine module .. you've done something wrong |
| 18:57.50 | takatumi | Morrowyn: you can grab the kernel-image from packages.debian.org and install it, if required. |
| 18:58.00 | abrotman | barra: did you compile this kernel yourself? |
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| 18:58.20 | setdisdouz | Hello |
| 18:59.07 | barra | abrotman: no but I think I installed it wrong... i jost removes and purged the old kernel and then installed the new |
| 18:59.25 | barra | abrotman: what does this bf2.4 packages mean? |
| 18:59.30 | setdisdouz | Does anybody here has installed Debian an a mac ? |
| 18:59.39 | SNow | Hi, i want to add few ipv4 aliases to my vr0 interface, i do: ifconfig vr0 inet IP netmask NETMASK alias, then the route command, and nothing, it get's ping but it doesn't connect to irc, what should I DO? |
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| 18:59.46 | Morrowyn | takatumi, will the apgt-get also update the grub.conf ? |
| 18:59.52 | streuner_ | setdisdouz: #debianppc? |
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| 19:00.05 | takatumi | Morrowyn: yes |
| 19:00.05 | PaK-MaN[x] | HI! |
| 19:00.07 | setdisdouz | Ok, thanks |
| 19:00.14 | Morrowyn | cool |
| 19:00.15 | PaK-MaN[x] | I need some help |
| 19:00.31 | streuner_ | ask |
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| 19:00.37 | PaK-MaN[x] | with sata modules for isntaling debian |
| 19:00.50 | abrotman | barra: it's something you souhldn't be running .. it's a kernel version |
| 19:00.51 | zarchne | resiak: Sometimes a device can be reset. IDE busses and SCSI busses can be reset by their drivers. I don't know why my USB bus is hanging, all the cables seem to be well-seated. The problem started after I replaced the monitor. Woody, kernel 2.4.27. Has happened twice in the last week where I never had problems before... unless I in fact disconnected a device. So I can reproduce the problem that way in any case. If a device comes unplugg |
| 19:00.51 | zarchne | ed, is there a way to recover without rebooting? |
| 19:01.05 | Morrowyn | this also sounds stupid, but the 2.4.x has pcmcia modules in the aptcaache, but there are no 2.6 pcmcia modules package. are these in the kernel 2.6.x already? |
| 19:01.22 | abrotman | barra: od you even have a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net directory? |
| 19:01.34 | PaK-MaN[x] | has someone installed debian in a SATA disk?? |
| 19:01.37 | barra | abrotman: It was pre installed and I removed it. Now I've removed the xx-k7 also. and I've got no kernel on my system... I purged them all |
| 19:01.44 | abrotman | barra: bad move |
| 19:01.49 | shaym | mysqladmin: unable to change password; error: 'You must have privileges to update tables in the mysql database to be able to change passwords for others' |
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| 19:02.12 | barra | abrotman: lib/modules is empty |
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| 19:02.27 | resiak | zarchne: Truncated at "device comes unplugg". Don't talk at me, because I don't know. If you'd said what you just said to me in the first place to the entire channel, you might have had better luck. |
| 19:02.29 | barra | abrotman: and now I could install the k7 kernel new... yes ? |
| 19:02.32 | PaK-MaN[x] | streuner have you installed debian o a SATA disk?? |
| 19:02.41 | abrotman | barra: hpoefully .. i'm not sure .. not having a kernel is bad |
| 19:03.23 | x1bncwn | anyone have an idea how i fix me freakin console fonts, like when i run bitchx in console, as opposed to some ansi stuff and nice neat characters, i get some ----- nonsense? |
| 19:03.52 | Blissex | x1bncwn: more than a font problem looks like an encoding problem... |
| 19:04.07 | abrotman | Blissex: it is .. some man pages look like that |
| 19:04.20 | abrotman | but not all man pages :) |
| 19:04.29 | abrotman | and not all my sarge systems either |
| 19:04.32 | barra | abrotman: I've now a net folder but where should the driver be ? |
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| 19:04.46 | abrotman | barra: should be called via-rhine.o |
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| 19:05.04 | barra | in the net folder ? |
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| 19:05.07 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:05.09 | barra | or in a subfolder ? |
| 19:05.22 | sbouc | hello |
| 19:05.26 | abrotman | /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/ |
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| 19:06.28 | sbouc | il y a du monde........... |
| 19:06.30 | Zvpun | does anyone know the equivalent to M-. in bash, if I want say the second last argument? |
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| 19:07.28 | Blissex | Zvpun: I guess something like 'ESC-<n> ESC-_' |
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| 19:07.41 | zarchne | What might "rchotplug restart" Suse do, so I could get equivalent functionality (reset USB) in Debian, I wonder? |
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| 19:07.53 | JRWR | setting the qutosuspend to 1sec work fine |
| 19:07.59 | Blissex | Zvpun: 'ESC-_' in BASH gives the last argument, with a numeric prefix the nth argument. |
| 19:08.00 | JRWR | autosusped* |
| 19:08.11 | hitu | hey |
| 19:08.25 | hitu | configure: error: Need libxml2 for glib2 builds -- you should be able to do without it -- this needs fixing |
| 19:08.25 | hitu | i installed that library |
| 19:08.26 | JRWR | one more thing what command to shutdown Via KDE |
| 19:08.31 | hitu | but i still get this error |
| 19:08.38 | Zvpun | Blissex: thank you so much, I was looking for that for a long time now! |
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| 19:09.54 | greycat | hitu: you didn't install the -dev though. |
| 19:10.34 | hitu | greycat: i did |
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| 19:10.49 | hitu | how do search for installed packages ? |
| 19:11.10 | Xemacs_ | hitu, dpkg -l package_name |
| 19:11.13 | hitu | i* |
| 19:11.19 | streuner_ | hitu: dpkg -l | grep foo |
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| 19:11.36 | greycat | "Blah blah blah install problem" -- use sarge. "Blah compile problem blah blah" -- apt-get install build-essential and the -dev package you need. See p.d.o. "Blah blah X problem blah" -- use sarge, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. |
| 19:11.46 | hitu | k |
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| 19:12.14 | jinro | I'm trying to install debian on a sparc, but the kernel crashesat the start... anyways, I wanted to try to change the iso's kernel to a gentoo kernel that works. Has anyone done anything like this or know where there is some good documentation on it? |
| 19:12.24 | Zvpun | how would I remove the configuration files of an unistalled package? apt-get --purge remove foo doesnt seemt to work |
| 19:12.25 | dondelelcaro | jinro: which iso are you using? |
| 19:12.41 | resiak | greycat: That's like three questions :) |
| 19:12.48 | x1bncwn | hrm, so any idea how i'd go about correcting that encoding problem? |
| 19:12.52 | jinro | I've tried sparc 3.0r4 and sarge |
| 19:12.56 | greycat | !stab resiak |
| 19:12.58 | Obilan | i installed gcc-3.4, how can i use it for example for kernel compilation? i tried: CC="gcc-3.4" gcc --version but it still shows 3.3. |
| 19:13.05 | resiak | JRWR: If you can't find the shutdown button... |
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| 19:13.07 | greycat | Obilan: vi Makefile |
| 19:13.09 | hitu | ahuh |
| 19:13.10 | es | Anyone here got mkCDrec working? |
| 19:13.12 | sophacles | does anyone know of a debian specific problem with the latest fluxbox package in testing, where the in the keys file Mod4 2 :Workspace 2 (and other lines similar) doesnt work as it should? |
| 19:13.12 | dondelelcaro | jinro: which sarge iso? There was a problem with sparc, iirc... but joshk fixed them, afaik. |
| 19:13.20 | hi | I ran xf86config to reconfigure my mouse, but the settings for the mouse won't change. Is there something else to configure the mouse in sarge? |
| 19:13.21 | afaik | dondelelcaro, ????????? |
| 19:13.27 | FieldySnuts | @ep |
| 19:13.29 | ravenbird | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:13.30 | Obilan | greycat: is there no variable which i can use to override it? |
| 19:13.33 | dondelelcaro | afaik: you're the one who chose that nick, not me. |
| 19:13.33 | hitu | i had older version of libxml dev's |
| 19:13.35 | streuner_ | sophacles: so the BTS didn't tell you anything? |
| 19:13.43 | x1bncwn | hi i would imagine you could try editing the config file by hand |
| 19:13.45 | hitu | my bad |
| 19:13.49 | hitu | (-: thanks guys |
| 19:14.13 | greycat | Obilan: no. ls -ld /usr/bin/gcc* |
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| 19:14.19 | Zvpun | how would I remove the configuration files of an unistalled package? apt-get --purge remove foo doesnt seemt to work |
| 19:14.19 | resiak | !drxx hi |
| 19:14.20 | dpkg | hi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 19:14.28 | greycat | /usr/bin/gcc does not read any of your petty environment variables, mortal! |
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| 19:14.40 | resiak | !tell hi about x md5t |
| 19:14.41 | hi | x1bncwn k |
| 19:14.41 | resiak | !tell hi about x md5 |
| 19:14.56 | sophacles | streuner ? |
| 19:15.06 | resiak | x1bncwn: You don't want to edit it by hand, and you don't want to use xf86config |
| 19:15.06 | streuner_ | sophacles: /msg dpkg bts |
| 19:15.12 | resiak | x1bncwn: Read the various things I've thrown at you. |
| 19:15.19 | hi | resiak thanks |
| 19:15.37 | resiak | x1bncwn: Uh, sorry, that was all aimed at hi |
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| 19:15.53 | sophacles | streuner_, didnt know about that. ill take a look. thanks |
| 19:15.54 | resiak | hi: Read the stuff I just mistakenly said to x1bncwn as well |
| 19:15.56 | zarchne | greycat: thanks, I needed somebody to mention the faq. |
| 19:16.21 | greycat | zarchne: yeah, because reading the /topic is SOOOOOO hard. |
| 19:16.24 | elirips | hello people. is there a possibility to get the temperature of the cpu to know, and how much the fan is working? or is there even a nice kde-prog that summarizes these kind of informations? |
| 19:16.46 | streuner_ | elrips: install lmsensors |
| 19:17.03 | zarchne | greycat: Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. May I have my penance now? |
| 19:17.27 | streuner_ | !info lm-sensors |
| 19:17.31 | greycat | !punish zarchne for not reading the /topic |
| 19:17.31 | dpkg | lm-sensors: (utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 1:2.9.0-11 (sid), Packaged size: 446 kB, Installed size: 1320 kB |
| 19:17.46 | x1bncwn | so does anyone know how to go about correcting the problem i have with my console, and the - messed up characters |
| 19:18.00 | streuner_ | elrips: lm-sensors and gkrellm |
| 19:18.43 | elirips | streuner_: i thought i read something that lmsensor can do some damage to the the cmos or whatever on certain ibm thinkpad laptops.. (??) |
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| 19:19.10 | hi | What's the mouse port for a serial mouse? |
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| 19:19.25 | resiak | !devinputmice |
| 19:19.25 | dpkg | always ALWAYS pick /dev/input/mice, regardless. no really. Yes, even on a 2.4 kernel, even with PS/2. The rest should take care of itself. |
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| 19:20.10 | resiak | hi: ^^ |
| 19:20.30 | greycat | resiak: interesting. |
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| 19:20.51 | resiak | greycat: To be honest, I'm just repeating what I've heard :) |
| 19:21.12 | hi | resiak: /dev/input/mice won't work |
| 19:21.18 | resiak | !lose me |
| 19:21.19 | dpkg | resiak: You Lose. |
| 19:21.43 | zarchne | hi: You mean maybe /dev/ttyS1 ? |
| 19:21.53 | ItsMe | question; how to change resolution on debian. it still keeps coming back as 800*600, as 1024*768 is wanted. |
| 19:22.02 | hi | zarchne: Let me try |
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| 19:22.15 | resiak | !drxx ItsMe |
| 19:22.16 | dpkg | ItsMe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
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| 19:22.23 | resiak | ItsMe: Then use ctrl-alt-+/- |
| 19:22.24 | Zvpun | how would I remove the configuration files of an unistalled package? apt-get --purge remove foo doesnt seemt to work |
| 19:22.28 | tzafrir_laptop | looking for advice: I'm building a terminal-based user interface. I currently use pdmenu, but I feel I push it over its limits. Can you suggest alternatives? |
| 19:22.34 | zarchne | hi: If you're trying that, ttyS0 is also worth trying ? |
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| 19:22.43 | dondelelcaro | Zvpun: dpkg --purge foo; |
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| 19:22.52 | Zvpun | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 19:23.02 | dondelelcaro | Zvpun: remove requires that the package actually be installed, which it isn't. |
| 19:23.12 | Zvpun | dondelelcaro: hm |
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| 19:23.28 | Zvpun | dondelelcaro: what if the package is removed but there are still config files? |
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| 19:23.48 | abrotman | Zvpun: dondelelcaro already told you .. dpkg --purge <pkgname> |
| 19:23.48 | dondelelcaro | Zvpun: that's why you use dpkg --purge foopkg; I was explaining why apt-get --purge remove foo; isn't going to work. |
| 19:24.18 | dvhart | debmirror is complaining "gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found", anyone know how I can fix that? |
| 19:24.31 | abrotman | dvhart: read your DWN |
| 19:24.38 | dvhart | will do |
| 19:24.41 | Zvpun | dondelelcaro: ah, know I get you. Thanks |
| 19:24.49 | dvhart | odd, google found very little... |
| 19:24.57 | resiak | !dwn |
| 19:24.58 | dpkg | Debian Weekly News at http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/ . You can also get it emailed to you weekly by subscribing to the debian-news list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/ or by sending an email with the subject 'subscribe' and no body to debian-news-request@lists.debian.org |
| 19:25.06 | dondelelcaro | dvhart: you're using apt-get 0.6, apparently. |
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| 19:25.43 | dvhart | dondelelcaro, I am using aptitude... will check the apt version |
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| 19:26.38 | Albacker | bye * |
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| 19:26.52 | jim | tzafrir_laptop: what does this menu thing use? |
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| 19:27.31 | tzafrir_laptop | jim, currently mostly many shell commands. Some are a bit complex |
| 19:27.43 | tzafrir_laptop | It has some dynamically-built submenus |
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| 19:27.57 | ItsMe | Has anyone a location where i can find the settings to use on a compaq armada e5000 (second generation)? |
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| 19:28.50 | jim | tzafrir_laptop: if you want to use what it uses, you should figure out what these shell commands do, and how exactly they work |
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| 19:29.14 | tzafrir_laptop | jim, I mean an alternative user interface framework |
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| 19:29.26 | stego | I would like to try Debian on my desktop and enjoy a reasonably up to date system. Is unstable to be avoided over testing? |
| 19:29.38 | jim | howbout using C and curses? |
| 19:29.45 | jim | or C and slang? |
| 19:29.53 | jim | or s/C/C++/ |
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| 19:30.13 | tzafrir_laptop | jim, C/C++ for handling strings? yuck |
| 19:30.18 | resiak | stego: Yes. DO NOT USE UNSTABLE! |
| 19:30.22 | tzafrir_laptop | That's what perl is for. |
| 19:30.37 | jim | then use perl or python and curses bindings |
| 19:30.40 | tzafrir_laptop | resiak, is testing that much better? |
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| 19:31.08 | tzafrir_laptop | curses is a bit low level. Anyway, anybody actually using such a thing? |
| 19:31.12 | stego | resiak, fair enough. |
| 19:31.13 | jim | tzafrir_laptop: if you're using sid, you're expected to solve your own problems |
| 19:31.21 | resiak | tzafrir_laptop: Unstable is for developers and testers. You don't want to be on it unless you're sure you can fix or cope with _anything_ breaking. |
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| 19:31.37 | ItsMe | where to find settings for monitor/lcd for a compaq armada e500? |
| 19:31.52 | tzafrir_laptop | jim, resiak , stable is for archologists. |
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| 19:31.58 | resiak | !fgi ItsMe compaq+armada+e500 |
| 19:31.59 | dpkg | ItsMe: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=compaq+armada+e500 |
| 19:32.07 | jim | tzafrir_laptop: stable is for servers |
| 19:32.07 | resiak | tzafrir_laptop: Then use testing. |
| 19:32.16 | dvhart | dondelelcaro, actually I am using apt 0.5.27 |
| 19:32.28 | hitu | mp3lameaudio.c:27:23: lame/lame.h: No such file or directory |
| 19:32.42 | dvhart | dondelelcaro, I found the new Release.gpg via DWN.. what do I do with it? |
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| 19:32.48 | stego | When using testing, do you not worry about security updates? |
| 19:32.49 | hitu | i cant find lame-devel on apt |
| 19:32.53 | barra | abrotman: I've got no file via-rhine.o on my pc but kernel-image-2.4.18-k7 installed |
| 19:33.03 | jim | hitu: No such file or directory... what could that MEAN?! :) |
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| 19:33.08 | abrotman | barra: you mean 2.4.18-1-k7 ? |
| 19:33.09 | Mr_ClayHead | greets all |
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| 19:33.09 | dondelelcaro | dvhart: oh, then you're using dpkg-checksigs or something |
| 19:33.19 | abrotman | barra: err .. nm .. you can't get security updates yet ... |
| 19:33.21 | barra | abrotman: no without the 1 |
| 19:33.26 | hitu | jim: the devels are not installed |
| 19:33.31 | hitu | lame devels |
| 19:33.40 | abrotman | barra: how about if you install kernel-image-2.4.18-386 ? .. does that have the module you need? |
| 19:33.42 | barra | abrotman: should I install the one with the one, whats the difference ? |
| 19:33.44 | jim | hitu: packages.debian.org ... and it would be something-dev |
| 19:33.47 | Weems | I cannot install nautilus through apt-get because the package that is needed to install nautilus is libxv1 and it wont install, I have tried apt-get -f install many timesa |
| 19:34.12 | jim | barra: or install the one with the none? or with the two? |
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| 19:34.27 | barra | jim: there is no with a two |
| 19:34.28 | hitu | You have searched for lame.h in stable, architecture i386. |
| 19:34.28 | hitu | Can't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture. |
| 19:34.32 | abrotman | barra: you can't yet .. it's a security release that you can't get to yet |
| 19:34.33 | jim | sheesh :) stop making me say doubletalk :) |
| 19:34.34 | tzafrir_laptop | Weems, try 'apt-get install' of the package that 'cannot be installed' to see what's the problem |
| 19:34.38 | barra | jim: whats the difference ? |
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| 19:34.58 | abrotman | jim: stop confusing barra |
| 19:34.59 | dvhart | dondelelcaro, I run a single debmirror command. At what point does dpkg-checksigs (which I don't have) or whatever come into play? |
| 19:35.23 | jim | barra: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:35.37 | abrotman | jim: get his NIC working . module should be there . isn't |
| 19:35.47 | Mr_ClayHead | will wireless-tools get my old Aironet 340 wireless PC card working with woody? |
| 19:36.06 | jim | ok, and he can't until a security problem clears s.d.o? |
| 19:36.29 | barra | abrotman: during theinstallation of xx-386 comes three erros like this up: shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory |
| 19:36.29 | abrotman | jim: he has no network .. hard to get there |
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| 19:36.31 | abrotman | barra: cd ~ .. try again |
| 19:36.41 | jim | so he needs a kernel with a driver? |
| 19:36.52 | abrotman | yeah .. but 2.4.18-k7 has via-rhine .. his doesn't |
| 19:37.12 | jim | and that is the driver he needs? |
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| 19:37.58 | jim | also, he has an amd processor? |
| 19:37.58 | elirips | can someone tell me if it is possible to read cpu temperature and some fan-info with acpi? i don't want to use lm-sensors, because it says on their homepage "Warning: IBM Thinkpad users should not install LM Sensors.".. |
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| 19:37.59 | abrotman | jim: via-rhine |
| 19:38.10 | abrotman | jim: one would assume he has a k7 cpu |
| 19:38.20 | barra | abrotman: the file is already not there... |
| 19:38.24 | abrotman | elirips: yes .. depending on the mobo |
| 19:38.48 | jim | ok, so what's this about installing the one with the one? |
| 19:38.55 | elirips | abrotman: and what would be the way to do that.. if possible on my mobo... (i'm using a thinkpad t40p) |
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| 19:39.05 | abrotman | jim: kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k7 .. the security release |
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| 19:39.26 | jim | ahh, and that is what is not available yet? |
| 19:39.39 | abrotman | elirips: acpid |
| 19:39.47 | abrotman | jim: no network .. can't get to security.d.o |
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| 19:40.06 | jim | ok, so it -is- available but he can't get it |
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| 19:40.19 | barra | abrotman: At first there was the kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 and a kernel-image-2.4.20 installed on this fresh system. xx-20 was loaded. I booted in a rescue system. Removed the kernels and installed the -k7 one. because tehre were errors installing the grsecurity patch. |
| 19:40.20 | uGexe | i have installed slocate but when i try to do updatedb i get updatedb: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory |
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| 19:40.24 | jim | can it be /dcc ed to him? |
| 19:40.26 | ItsMe | Ok, resolution changed, chars are now not ok, (although i'm in native resolution for the lcd screen.) Where to change? |
| 19:40.38 | jim | and then can he pop it onto a floppy? |
| 19:40.41 | dondelelcaro | dvhart: ah, nevermind... for some reason I had it in my head that you were using apt-get, not debmirror |
| 19:40.56 | dvhart | dondelelcaro, heh, ok, I am less confused now :-) |
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| 19:41.02 | jim | how is he here now? |
| 19:41.04 | elirips | abrotman: apcid... i'm using that for my buttons to work.. lid-close and so.. but reading temperature with it? |
| 19:41.16 | dvhart | dondelelcaro, so I just add --ignore-release-gpg to my debmirror script, but that seems like a hack, not a solution |
| 19:41.26 | dvhart | s/add/added/ |
| 19:41.32 | dondelelcaro | dvhart: hrm... |
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| 19:41.39 | jcoiron | hello :) |
| 19:41.46 | Rawplayer | e |
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| 19:42.17 | barra | abrotman: must I install the whole system now new ? its just a script from my provider which is doing this.... But I want the grsecurity become working... |
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| 19:42.35 | ubuntu | hey i installed the latest 2.6 image to my server, and it does not boot, nor does the linuxOLD (lilo) kernel which was 2.4, can someone help me? |
| 19:42.43 | abrotman | elirips: i'm pretty sure you can .. check acpi.sf.net |
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| 19:42.56 | resiak | ubuntu: Your name gives the game away. |
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| 19:43.03 | abrotman | barra: you can't without a nic that works |
| 19:43.16 | barra | abrotman: what ? |
| 19:43.16 | abrotman | ubuntu: you sohuldn't use ubuntu for a server |
| 19:43.21 | ubuntu | yea I am using a live cd right now since my no boot issue |
| 19:43.36 | neurotope | holy something... this is a bit overwhelming, second time on irc, and its because of my first time on linux.... (long day so far) |
| 19:43.36 | resiak | ubuntu: Oh, of course. Pardon me. |
| 19:43.40 | dondelelcaro | dvhart: yeah, it probably needs to be imported into whatever gpg key is being used |
| 19:43.45 | abrotman | barra: your provider is diong this ? |
| 19:43.52 | barra | abrotman: yes |
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| 19:43.56 | elirips | abrotman: okay, thanks, i'll have a look at it... altough i don't like acpi very much.. too much things not really working yet (on my system).. maybe i better try the 2.6.10 kernel first. and then with better acpi support the rest.. well, thanks anyway |
| 19:44.12 | abrotman | elirips: dunno . works fine on my G40 |
| 19:44.12 | dondelelcaro | s/key/keyring/ |
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| 19:44.31 | Glitch_Master | This is embarassing... but... How do I copy the contents and subdirs of one dir to another using cp? I tried cp /dir /destination , and it didn't work. I looked at the man file but I can't see anything relating to how to do this particular thing.. |
| 19:44.32 | jim | what's his provider doing? |
| 19:44.37 | resiak | Glitch_Master: man cp |
| 19:44.44 | dondelelcaro | Glitch_Master: hint: -r |
| 19:44.44 | resiak | Glitch_Master: Read the bit on recursively copying. |
| 19:44.49 | abrotman | jim: i'm not sure .. i can't figure it out |
| 19:44.52 | Glitch_Master | I thought I tried -r... |
| 19:45.03 | neurotope | has anyone had the message /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz scroll durring a first boot on install? |
| 19:45.04 | abrotman | you thought? |
| 19:45.05 | abrotman | jeez |
| 19:45.06 | jim | abrotman: how is he here now? |
| 19:45.08 | tzafrir_laptop | there's something called flin. I don't know how I missed it in my previous search. claims to have fvwm-like config. default config is crappy indeed |
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| 19:45.12 | elirips | abrotman: basic things here work fine too, but thinks like throttling don't work yet.. and i don't like the thinkpad really anylonger.. the fan is always on when powered in.. that is really anoying. |
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| 19:45.13 | abrotman | jim: do you believe in magic? |
| 19:45.28 | jim | of course not :) not for this anyway :) |
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| 19:45.32 | abrotman | elirips: odd . my fan goes off/on .. i don't have throttling |
| 19:45.37 | abrotman | !speedstep |
| 19:45.37 | dpkg | hmm... speedstep is the frequency scaling feature found on some Intel mobile processors. Ask me about {cpufreq}. |
| 19:45.39 | moshii | Does anyone here know how to get the kbtab driver to work with Xfree86? |
| 19:45.52 | barra | abrotman: I could choose between 3.1 and 3.0 debian. Should I use 3.1 for "professional" webhosting. For some customer homepages ? |
| 19:45.53 | Glitch_Master | Crap... how to remove a dir? |
| 19:46.07 | jim | abrotman: point is, maybe a kernel image could be handed to him via irc |
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| 19:46.09 | abrotman | barra: 3.1 is not fully released yet |
| 19:46.20 | Zvpun | barra: if you dont know that, that kinda defetes the professional, dont you think? |
| 19:46.22 | jeaneid | how do I change a2ps to default to lpr instead of lp |
| 19:46.24 | Glitch_Master | rm is not for dirs... ack... |
| 19:46.32 | resiak | Glitch_Master: man rm |
| 19:46.34 | resiak | Glitch_Master: rmdir |
| 19:46.38 | abrotman | rm / |
| 19:46.54 | abrotman | hey .. i left off the good parts! |
| 19:47.00 | jim | Glitch_Master: msn rmdir |
| 19:47.03 | Glitch_Master | ...Abrotman, do you take me for a fool? |
| 19:47.05 | elirips | abrotman: it is a common error/fault of the thinkpad 4x series.. according to ibm they are "researching the problem and trying to find a solution". when working on battery the fan is almost never on.. only when pluged in if it runs once it wont stop again, until you supsend the machine.. then it is silent for 1h and then the noise starts again.. but only cold air (around 25-30C) come out of the machine. |
| 19:47.14 | abrotman | Glitch_Master: i plead the 5th |
| 19:47.28 | resiak | jim: MSN RmDir: all the joys of removing directories, without sanity! |
| 19:47.36 | jim | the 5th of scotch? |
| 19:47.36 | abrotman | elirips: lovely |
| 19:47.55 | jcoiron | I hope it will not be a stupid question (I'm a quite new debian user) : I downloaded the 6 firsts CD on /pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/i386 and installed it on my home PC. It's said on http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#testing that this is testing, Sarge, but in the sources list I have something like deb [...]official snapshot[...] unstable main. Are those CD images corresponding to the testing dist or the unstable one ? (on the CD's HTML files it's said to |
| 19:47.55 | jim | did I get that wrong? :) sheesh :) |
| 19:48.03 | resiak | neurotope: Please don't /msg me. |
| 19:48.07 | elirips | abrotman: the day will come when this error is gone too :P |
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| 19:48.32 | neurotope | resiak: sory! |
| 19:48.39 | barra | Zvpun: you're right... but everytime i'm thinking of it... should I use it or not.. 3.0 is more secure isn't it? |
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| 19:48.47 | abrotman | elirips: heh .. IBM soon won't care .. problems go to china! |
| 19:48.50 | Glitch_Master | Alright, let's try it this way: How do I remove a NON-EMPTY directory? |
| 19:48.50 | resiak | neurotope: That's okay. People don't generally like getting /msg'd by random people. |
| 19:48.51 | barra | Zvpun: but then I've to backport so muich programms.... |
| 19:48.56 | neurotope | looking for help on a fresh install that isnt working out like i had hoped |
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| 19:49.07 | resiak | neurotope: Did you install Woody or Sarge? |
| 19:49.21 | Zvpun | barra: woody is stable but sarge will be finished soon, i don't see a point of installing woody anymore |
| 19:49.22 | jim | Glitch_Master: remove things inside directory, remove directory |
| 19:49.28 | neurotope | ummm, dont know... grabed the x86 iso... |
| 19:49.36 | neurotope | first try at this... |
| 19:49.45 | Glitch_Master | jim: I mean a single command to remove both. There must be one. |
| 19:49.45 | resiak | neurotope: Which x86 iso? |
| 19:49.47 | Zvpun | barra: if you backport a lot you can as well start with testing |
| 19:49.54 | neurotope | just a sec... |
| 19:49.57 | resiak | neurotope: If you have a working system, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:50.02 | barra | Zvpun: when will it be released ? |
| 19:50.05 | resiak | !wwsr |
| 19:50.05 | dpkg | Sarge will release WIR; SIYH. Current estimates are N+30 days, where N is when debian-security updates for sarge come online. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/01/msg00011.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/12/msg00006.html Ask me about <sarge pool>, <wir>, <siyh>, <sarge guess> and <sing sarge>. |
| 19:50.16 | cureless | I just tried to install calc and I forgot the package is not called calc, so I tried to install the calc package and there were a bunch of dependencies on emacs. I think apcalc should be renamed calc and calc renamed emacs-calc (just some random thoughts on a monday morning) |
| 19:50.22 | atrus | is there a way to do apt-pinnning on the Source field of a package? |
| 19:50.22 | FieldySnuts | i still say 2009 as I said in my poll entry |
| 19:50.29 | neurotope | debian-30r2-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 19:50.30 | jim | Glitch_Master: man rm... it does have the capability... that's why you should be -careful- with it. one misplaced space could wipe your whole system... due caution :) |
| 19:50.35 | abrotman | cureless: file a wishlist bug |
| 19:50.43 | resiak | neurotope: I presume that you're after a desktop system? |
| 19:50.43 | abrotman | cureless: on both packages |
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| 19:51.11 | neurotope | im tring to get an old computer to boot, yes desktop |
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| 19:51.27 | toothpick | Can anyone recommend a partition repair tool I could apt-get? |
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| 19:51.41 | elirips | abrotman: there are cases where they replaced the fan with another one... in some other cases they only said that the noise is withing the specs of ibm.. well we are ordering about 500 to 1000 ibm laptops per year (university staff + students), i hope they will do something about it.. or we will ask other ones for nice offers.. |
| 19:51.42 | popey | toothpick, parted? |
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| 19:51.45 | resiak | !d-i neurotope |
| 19:51.46 | dpkg | neurotope, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:51.46 | cureless | abrotman, I know the procedure, but I'm too lazy on monday mornings, maybe tomorrow afternoon... |
| 19:51.53 | neurotope | durring the last part of package install it started scrolling /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz |
| 19:51.56 | jim | toothpick: partition repair? what's wrong with your partition? |
| 19:52.07 | Glitch_Master | -f? |
| 19:52.16 | abrotman | cureless: sure .. then don't complain when it's still called calc and apcalc |
| 19:52.21 | resiak | neurotope: You'll want to install Sarge, which is a newer version than the one you installed. |
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| 19:52.33 | neurotope | i have been folowing it, it didnt cover this as an option, and for help listed this chanel... |
| 19:52.35 | barra | Is the AMD Athlon XP 3000+ everytime 64 BIT ? |
| 19:52.42 | Glitch_Master | Erg... Dentist appointment. I'll be back. |
| 19:52.45 | neurotope | i realy am tring to do this by the book :) |
| 19:52.48 | aaa1234 | hello everybody!!!!! |
| 19:52.52 | toothpick | Gpart |
| 19:52.53 | resiak | neurotope: :) |
| 19:52.56 | jim | Glitch_Master: consider this process... "to remove a directory, first remove everything inside the directory, then remove the directory itself" |
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| 19:53.07 | FieldySnuts | jim: he left. |
| 19:53.20 | jim | ahh |
| 19:53.42 | Zvpun | where would be a mail-system related question ontopic? |
| 19:53.52 | aaa1234 | hahaha |
| 19:53.54 | Delph | #<insert name of the mail system> |
| 19:54.01 | neurotope | so there is a different install that i should try? where should i download this? |
| 19:54.09 | jim | I was trying to get him to say "ohh, so it's a -recursive- process" when he sees that he has to reapply the original formula to directories inside the directory |
| 19:54.17 | Zvpun | it is a general question about what to do on a dialup machine with different users |
| 19:54.19 | jcoiron | could anyone who have used the weekly generated ISO confirm me that it's the Testing dist ? |
| 19:54.24 | resiak | !d-i neurotope |
| 19:54.25 | dpkg | neurotope, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:54.37 | abrotman | jcoiron: as opposed to what? |
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| 19:54.56 | jim | abrotman: he says his sources.list say "unstable" |
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| 19:55.00 | aaa1234 | qui connait bien debian?? |
| 19:55.06 | resiak | !fr |
| 19:55.06 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 19:55.23 | aaa1234 | of course |
| 19:55.32 | reppal | how to add a route for a multicast address? i mean, all things going to the multicast address 239.113.1.81 sould go through eth1 |
| 19:55.39 | jcoiron | abrotman: well, i've got "unstable" or something like "experimental" in the sources list |
| 19:55.44 | stego | If I want to ultimately run testing, should I install from the sarge iso? Or is it better to upgrade from stable? |
| 19:55.50 | abrotman | jcoiron: well . then that's what you're running |
| 19:55.52 | jcoiron | well yes that's it jim__ |
| 19:55.54 | abrotman | !di stego |
| 19:55.54 | resiak | aaa1234: Mais, si vous voulez d'aide en Anglaise, restez ici :) |
| 19:55.56 | abrotman | !d-i stego |
| 19:55.57 | dpkg | stego, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 19:56.29 | stego | thanks abrotman |
| 19:56.34 | cureless | reppal, do you have multiple net devs? |
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| 19:56.43 | aaa1234 | yes because i'm very bad an english..... |
| 19:56.44 | reppal | cureless, yes |
| 19:56.47 | neurotope | dpkg: are you the go elsewhere bot? |
| 19:56.49 | dpkg | neurotope: are you smoking crack? |
| 19:56.53 | jcoiron | abrotman: err.. ok thx :) my mistake, I'll try to find another set of ISO |
| 19:56.54 | aaa1234 | so i want to learn it... |
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| 19:57.05 | cureless | reppal, and do the routers on every side respond to the IGMP? |
| 19:57.11 | abrotman | !d-i jcoiron |
| 19:57.12 | dpkg | jcoiron, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 19:57.27 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: say confuse abrotman |
| 19:57.30 | ravenbird | confuse abrotman |
| 19:57.38 | FieldySnuts | botched that one. nevermind! |
| 19:57.43 | abrotman | no kidding |
| 19:57.44 | resiak | aaa1234: Probably better to learn English and Debian seperately :) |
| 19:57.51 | reppal | cureless, i have eth1 connected with a cable to a set top box reading mpeg2-ts from a multicast address |
| 19:57.53 | jim | jcoiron: if you have a good net connection, you don't need isos |
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| 19:58.11 | reppal | cureless, so basically i have to stream on eth1 to a particular multicast address |
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| 19:58.21 | jcoiron | jim: actually on this machine I don't have Internet yet |
| 19:58.23 | aaa1234 | yes english and debian......it's very hard.. |
| 19:58.31 | cureless | reppal, what do you mean "reading from a multicast address"? |
| 19:58.33 | resiak | aaa1234: Alors, allez au #debian-fr! |
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| 19:58.48 | abrotman | !be an english and debian barbie |
| 19:58.50 | dpkg | editing config files by hand is so HARD! |
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| 19:58.58 | abrotman | wtf |
| 19:59.00 | aaa1234 | and for english?? |
| 19:59.03 | abrotman | #english |
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| 19:59.35 | cureless | aaa1234, for english you can lurk, but IRC will not guarrantee good english |
| 19:59.35 | equnix | there is a problem with my sound, when new sounds, like when i switch music-track, is getting on theres a kracking sound, ill aprisiate all help given :D |
| 19:59.35 | neurotope | so will the netinst CD image, probably fix the scrolling "/etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz" durring the last stages of setup? |
| 19:59.48 | abrotman | cureless: wot u sayin? |
| 20:00.05 | jcoiron | well, see u all and thx |
| 20:00.05 | ^c | sum of us ain't spekkin gud anglish |
| 20:00.10 | abrotman | !u |
| 20:00.13 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 20:00.14 | cureless | abrotman, "have you ever read my spelling?" |
| 20:00.19 | jim | don saye u to dpkg! it gets red to me! |
| 20:00.19 | ricky_clarkson | Ingrish is tout of fachun |
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| 20:00.46 | abrotman | cureless: well . spelling is one thing .. but we've got people using 'u' and 'ur' and crap like that .. on top of the ones that don't speak/type english very well |
| 20:01.01 | jim | dpkg, u =~ s/Dammit jim! // |
| 20:01.02 | dpkg | jim: OK |
| 20:01.03 | cureless | abrotman, I was actually talking about grammar in that case. |
| 20:01.09 | jim | -thank you- |
| 20:01.09 | aaa1234 | so i want to spoke just with one person.....and what's solution?? |
| 20:01.11 | hedonick | aaa1234: my recommendation when it comes to learn english: read and use a dictionary if needed... most important is to use the second (or third) language you're trying to learn for something you like. |
| 20:01.20 | abrotman | cureless: gotcha |
| 20:01.23 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: say !confuse aaa1234 |
| 20:01.26 | ravenbird | !confuse aaa1234 |
| 20:01.27 | dpkg | No, what was my gouda tomorrow, aaa1234? trousers of the people's republic of liechtenstein with extra cheese |
| 20:01.30 | abrotman | aaa1234: get a girlfriend :) |
| 20:01.40 | ^c | ravenbird: !confuse aaa1234 |
| 20:01.41 | ravenbird | ^c: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 20:01.41 | neurotope | wow, some of the l33t replacements look like ths stuff in the strongbad email about viruses |
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| 20:02.19 | guitarro | hey, can anyone help me with cron? |
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| 20:02.33 | equnix | ive got a sound-problem, theres a crackling sound when i switch track :( |
| 20:02.36 | jim | guitarro: what about it |
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| 20:02.48 | aaa1234 | yes i want speak with an girlfriend an english......so where is she???? |
| 20:02.50 | ionrock | would anyone know of a good place to ask a question regarding gnu arch? |
| 20:02.58 | abrotman | aaa1234: in france? |
| 20:03.00 | FordPrefect_ | a friend of mine has got a prob. he is not able to make his pc booting from the cdrom drive in the bios. is there a way to initialize booting from the cd with an bootdisk? |
| 20:03.02 | guitarro | jim: I just created a crontab file... how can I check if its working? |
| 20:03.02 | aaa1234 | i am lonelylesssssssssss |
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| 20:03.02 | jim | ionrock: #arch |
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| 20:03.07 | ionrock | thank jim |
| 20:03.08 | abrotman | ionrock: i think there is #arch |
| 20:03.18 | elirips | abrotman: it is really easy to get temperature: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature is everything you have to do ;) |
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| 20:03.33 | cureless | equnix, what are you playing music with? |
| 20:03.34 | abrotman | elirips: so it works ? .. what about fan control? |
| 20:04.00 | alse | I've a question about how to unbind a port |
| 20:04.10 | FieldySnuts | "unbind"? |
| 20:04.12 | aaa1234 | bye bye everybody............ |
| 20:04.13 | equnix | cureless, rythmbox |
| 20:04.14 | cureless | guitarro, put something in the cronfile that will happen soon, check if it happens. Check with crontab -l to see that it's in the crontab |
| 20:04.22 | jim | alse: other than stopping the service listening on the port? |
| 20:04.23 | FieldySnuts | if you mean stop a process from listening, reconfigure the process or kill it |
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| 20:04.32 | FieldySnuts | nestat -anp | grep :portnumber |
| 20:04.38 | ionrock | in case anyone uses arch here, the error I got was this -> "Error during call to `vu_chdir' for {archives}/..." could this be an issue with the package? |
| 20:04.47 | R4Ndom | Where do you place a .deb file you wish to install and what is the command line? |
| 20:04.49 | elirips | abrotman: fan control looks rather bad.. or at least my directory /proc/acpi/fan/ is empty... still googing about that.. |
| 20:04.52 | alse | yes, game server crashes, leaves port bound. it clears after a while, but I hate to wait |
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| 20:05.00 | cureless | equnix, sometimes the sound architecture has problems (alsa, gstreamer, etc), it depends on the version and other programs. Try playing with xmms and oss and then alsa output, do you get the same erros? |
| 20:05.01 | ^c | R4Ndom: dpkg -i foo.deb |
| 20:05.04 | abrotman | elirips: well 1/2 ain't too bad ... |
| 20:05.08 | cureless | s/erros/errors/ |
| 20:05.15 | jim | ionrock: maybe the physical location is wrong? |
| 20:05.24 | elirips | abrotman: going to try now kernel 2.6.10, maybe acpi has improved there |
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| 20:05.35 | abrotman | elirips: it's possible |
| 20:05.37 | guitarro | cureless: did that. the job is listed when I enter crontab -l, but the job isnt executed. the file has chmod 777. is there a errorlog for cron that i can check or someting? |
| 20:05.39 | abrotman | !tell elirips about kp |
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| 20:05.51 | ^c | FieldySnuts: they make good coasters |
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| 20:06.17 | elirips | abrotman: thanks ;) but i think ill just do it the way i did it when installing my 2.6.9 i'm currently using ;) |
| 20:06.18 | FieldySnuts | have to make 2 copies of every single peice of software this company has ever owned, crazy |
| 20:06.25 | cureless | guitarro, mail. cron will send you mail of the output. If you want to check something put something you control under cron, a script you wrote for example, force it to do some output. |
| 20:06.31 | nvz | yeah, we all know MS Office doesnt hold a candle to GNU Emacs, lets move on :P |
| 20:06.33 | FieldySnuts | fast cdr thankfully, full cd in 3 minutes |
| 20:06.34 | jim | elirips: watch out, people have been complainging about 2.6.10 and fat/vfat |
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| 20:06.38 | abrotman | elirips: up to you .. does some magic for you |
| 20:06.39 | jeaneid | lp only spits out blank pages ?? |
| 20:06.48 | FieldySnuts | i don't know, doe sit? |
| 20:07.08 | ricky_clarkson | Heh. |
| 20:07.09 | ^c | jeaneid: your printer is probable set wrongg |
| 20:07.11 | ricky_clarkson | !doe sit |
| 20:07.18 | elirips | jim: ouh, mmhh... that's bad news.. i have all my sound on a vfat partition.. |
| 20:07.23 | ricky_clarkson | !doe piss off you dutch git |
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| 20:07.43 | ricky_clarkson | ravenbird: Have you met sussudio? |
| 20:07.45 | ravenbird | ricky_clarkson: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 20:07.48 | jeaneid | ^c: but lpr is fine |
| 20:07.51 | ricky_clarkson | Rawplayer: ^^ |
| 20:07.52 | FieldySnuts | blah |
| 20:07.55 | Rawplayer | ricky_clarkson: iets tegen nederlanders ofzo? |
| 20:08.02 | Rawplayer | ;) |
| 20:08.03 | ricky_clarkson | Rawplayer: Dank U. |
| 20:08.06 | Rawplayer | hehe |
| 20:08.08 | abrotman | !yinzersmite ricky_clarkson |
| 20:08.10 | ricky_clarkson | Schipol |
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| 20:08.17 | Rawplayer | klompen |
| 20:08.18 | Rawplayer | weed |
| 20:08.20 | Rawplayer | tulpen |
| 20:08.23 | guitarro | thx, cureless Ill try |
| 20:08.30 | FieldySnuts | engrish? |
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| 20:08.58 | ricky_clarkson | Schipol ist der besten bitte auf die nederlands. Ist est der exit! |
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| 20:09.13 | equnix | cureless, thnx |
| 20:09.35 | cureless | equnix, did it work? |
| 20:09.53 | equnix | cureless, no no yet... but im on my way :D |
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| 20:10.16 | ^c | jeaneid: well use lpr |
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| 20:11.19 | jim | someone was hi... |
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| 20:11.26 | xpato | hi, anyone knows an app that keeps a database of pc's infos? like ip, user, passwd. for a helpdesk stuff |
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| 20:11.47 | jim | xpato: postgres |
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| 20:11.53 | Sid | postgres is good |
| 20:12.00 | jim | mysql, oracle... |
| 20:12.05 | jim | or text file :) |
| 20:12.09 | nvz | xpato: postgresql or ldap depending on if you want just a db or a yellowpage service |
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| 20:12.58 | barra | abrotman: how could I look if sarge is installed on my system ? |
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| 20:13.24 | jim | barra: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:13.38 | xpato | yes, im talking about a web or gui front end |
| 20:13.43 | jim | but that might just say sit/sarge |
| 20:13.54 | barra | 3.1 |
| 20:14.10 | jim | that sounds like presarge? |
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| 20:15.03 | netsurfer | I cant find kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-386 in the packages list.. any suggestions where it is ? |
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| 20:15.17 | Zvpun | please help the helpdesk, that is funny xpato |
| 20:15.24 | jim | xpato: how much work you willing to do? |
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| 20:16.27 | neurotope | resiak: is woody what i want to be installing? |
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| 20:16.46 | NilsR | I got an usual error when updating via Synaptic just now. Error in output window starts witH: |
| 20:16.49 | NilsR | String found where operator expected at /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure line 96, near "die sprintf(gettext("" |
| 20:16.57 | drac | netsurfer: how about getting 2.4.27-2-386 kernel-image and kernel-headers? |
| 20:17.06 | NilsR | Is this a wellknown problem? |
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| 20:17.25 | neurotope | NilsR: well we all know about it now? is that what you mean? |
| 20:17.35 | jim | neurotope: for a -stable- server with soemwhat old services (that might or might not matter to you as traded off for stability) |
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| 20:17.47 | netsurfer | drac - iv had so much trouble trying to upgrade my kernel over the last few days I wanted to stay with stock |
| 20:18.02 | NilsR | :-) Not really, did you know about it before I said anything? |
| 20:18.08 | barra | IS the 2.6 kernel better than the 2.4 ? And what is better ? |
| 20:18.08 | neurotope | jim: for a first ever install? |
| 20:18.31 | cureless | barra, it's 0.2 versions better. |
| 20:18.33 | neurotope | NilsR: nope but im a noob, so what do i know |
| 20:18.35 | jim | neurotope: of linux? of any unix-alike? to learn unix? sure. |
| 20:18.38 | drac | netsurfer: 2.4.27-2-386 is stock |
| 20:18.50 | barra | cureless: and whats the difference ? |
| 20:18.57 | jim | because... you can always upgrade later |
| 20:19.01 | barra | cureless: what is there better ? |
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| 20:19.17 | neurotope | jim: yeah, been meaning to change my desktop over, so i got a junkbox(tm) to try it out on before i make the plunge |
| 20:19.33 | netsurfer | drac - my system shows 2.4.27-1-386 |
| 20:19.38 | jim | neurotope: what's on your main box? |
| 20:19.55 | neurotope | jim: sweet university salvage... 30$ for 128mbRam and a 400mhz pII |
| 20:19.58 | cureless | barra, depends what you use it for. Internals, performance under certain loads, structure, audio, ide-scsi, drivers. It depends, not everybody will see an obvious improvement. |
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| 20:20.17 | jim | neurotope: nice :) what OS you got on it? |
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| 20:20.22 | barra | cureless: LAMP |
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| 20:20.28 | knt | while piping output of a program 1 refers to stdout and 2 refers to stderr. but what if i use sth like: 1>&3 or 2>&5. what 3, 4 and etc. refers to? |
| 20:20.45 | neurotope | jim: main comp is a amd athlongxp 1.6 or something... |
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| 20:20.50 | Zvpun | knt: they may refere to files |
| 20:20.59 | entropy_ | I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to flag a particular program's kernel pages as non-swapable, or better, to figure out what the kernel is swapping. Should I ask in #kernel? |
| 20:21.03 | cureless | barra, if you're starting the setup, start with 2.6. If everything is already working, leave it like it is unless you have a strong reason to change. |
| 20:21.12 | puff | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.20 | jim | neurotope: what's it running? linux? wonders of winders? macosx? |
| 20:21.23 | neurotope | jim: can never remember, mine is the oldest, and i built it, my bothers, then my wifes, then my dads in the past 18 months... |
| 20:21.36 | puff | er, that's "Where do I find the raw file that "dpgk -l packagename" checks in?" |
| 20:21.41 | barra | debian testing is unstable and not sarge yes ? |
| 20:21.51 | ^c | barra: no |
| 20:21.55 | barra | or is sarge testing ? |
| 20:21.56 | cureless | barra, what? |
| 20:21.57 | neurotope | jim: main is running winxp pro, the junkbox(tm) is tring to learn to run debian |
| 20:21.57 | jim | puff: those are .deb files |
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| 20:22.00 | knt | Zvpun: can you explain a bit more about 'em? |
| 20:22.08 | ^c | barra: sarge=testing |
| 20:22.16 | barra | thanks |
| 20:22.19 | Zvpun | knt: well, do you have a script, where the question arises? |
| 20:22.32 | Zvpun | knt: one can link file descriptors with files |
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| 20:22.37 | jim | neurotope: ok. if you've -never- run any unixalike before, woody is perfect for you, for now, and in order to learn. |
| 20:22.47 | vrt | can anyone help me with my upgrade from kernel-image-2.4 to kernel-image.2.6 ? My system no longer boots with either kernel? |
| 20:22.53 | puff | jim lemme clarify that. I have a large directory structure containing a snapshot of an old debian build, I wish to figure out which version of bind was installed. My first thought is to find the packages file and grep it. |
| 20:23.05 | Zvpun | knt: than one can redirect different outputs to different files |
| 20:23.09 | dondelelcaro | puff: look at the status file |
| 20:23.10 | cureless | puff, grep it for what? |
| 20:23.16 | puff | cureless For the bind version. |
| 20:23.19 | dondelelcaro | puff: var/lib/dpkg/status; specifically |
| 20:23.26 | puff | dondelelcaro: Danke. |
| 20:23.33 | jim | puff: a build? or an actual installation? is it a chroot? |
| 20:23.35 | knt | Zvpun: for example how can i make 5 to redirect output to /tmp/example |
| 20:23.37 | cureless | puff, sorry, misread what you said. |
| 20:23.54 | Zvpun | knt: i have to check the details myself. it should be in man bash though |
| 20:23.56 | neurotope | jim: cool, yeah ive been meening to do this for about 2 years now, and never got around to it... i have people asking me about linux, and all i could say is "well i hear good things, and i like opensource" |
| 20:23.56 | cjfp | (must be common question) -- when is xorg coming to unstable or testing? |
| 20:23.58 | cureless | Vrt, where are you stuck? |
| 20:24.04 | neurotope | jim: it was allways kinda lame |
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| 20:24.31 | puff | jim An actual installation. Basically mounted the old drive, did "cp -a" to create a snapshot of it on the new drive. |
| 20:24.36 | vrt | cureless, when I reboot the 2.4 kernel cannot open the rood device |
| 20:24.45 | ^c | cjfp: why do you want xorg? |
| 20:24.49 | puff | cureless: No sweat, it's an imperfect world :-). |
| 20:25.00 | jim | puff: you -might- be able to chroot to there, and -run- it. |
| 20:25.05 | cureless | vrt, what are you booting with? lilo or grub? did you specify the root device correctly? |
| 20:25.05 | barra | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Feb 7 20:59 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-bf2.4 works the grsecurity patch with this ? |
| 20:25.23 | cjfp | ^c: my laptop is kind of slow, i had it before with gentoo and it was faster |
| 20:25.25 | jim | then you can find out what is there |
| 20:25.26 | greycat | cjfp: /topic |
| 20:25.30 | Zvpun | knt: does [n]<>word |
| 20:25.33 | puff | jim: That might be a good technique to have in my toolbox, but this particular snapshot was owned, so I'm leery of running anything from it. |
| 20:25.33 | cureless | puff, you might not even need to chroot, just run it or run strings on the binary. |
| 20:25.36 | Zvpun | knt: does that do the job? |
| 20:25.41 | vrt | cureless, and the 2.6 kernel says it can't open the console device, I am using lilo and it is set to the correct device /dev/sda5, also tried passing root=/dev/sda5 |
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| 20:25.46 | ^c | !tell cjfp about xorg |
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| 20:25.58 | zonezeid | i don't know why when i want to download a linux distro I see all the time CD iso and DVD iso. Why not a CF card iso or even a SD card iso? hehe ;) |
| 20:26.12 | cureless | vrt, to the 2.4 kernel? or 2.6? |
| 20:26.18 | Nexus | What's the file I edit to change the mirrors I use for updates? |
| 20:26.21 | cjfp | ^c: thanks |
| 20:26.29 | FieldySnuts | vrt: sounds like you don't have /dev/console and/or /dev/null |
| 20:26.31 | cjfp | ^c: btw, what is "/topic" |
| 20:26.32 | hitu | i get this in 'dmesg' -> uba: device 2 capacity nsec 0 bsize 512 |
| 20:26.35 | jim | howbout this: take the bind you're wondering about, and run "strings" on it |
| 20:26.38 | puff | Wow, strings usr/sbin/named gives me a heck of al ot of stuff. |
| 20:26.42 | hitu | what does that mean |
| 20:26.51 | cureless | Nexus, /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 20:27.20 | vrt | cureless, I tried the boot peramiter for both kernels |
| 20:27.24 | Nexus | cureless, Thank you. That's the one. I get in here to little to remember that. |
| 20:27.38 | jim | puff: pipe to less and see if you can find the version string |
| 20:27.46 | cjfp | ^c: nevermind |
| 20:27.51 | cureless | Nexus, man apt will tell you. |
| 20:27.51 | vrt | FieldySnuts, I have the disk mounted, and dev does have those two device files |
| 20:27.53 | Zvpun | knt: or check that http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=de&lr=&threadm=bvr0lg%24k68%2401%241%40news.t-online.com&rnum=11&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfile%2Bdescriptor%2Bbash%26hl%3Dde%26lr%3D%26start%3D10%26sa%3DN |
| 20:28.05 | cahoot | hitu: some usb mass storage device plugged in and accessible via /dev/ub* |
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| 20:28.20 | Nexus | cureless, I should have guessed.. Thanx anyway. |
| 20:28.38 | zonezeid | give me ten reasons to install debian instead of suse, fedora or slackware? |
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| 20:28.57 | hitu | cahoot: why does it keep sayin that |
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| 20:29.10 | hitu | i have a USB MMC Card reader |
| 20:29.15 | jim | becasue you keep plugging it in? just a guess :) |
| 20:29.22 | Zvpun | zonezeid: give my ten reasons why you are smart enough to be allowed to install debian |
| 20:29.26 | azreal | zonezeid: why should anyone convince you to run debian? if you dont want it dont use it, in fact, why dont you just install suse, fedora or slackware. |
| 20:29.39 | vrt | cureless, Fieldysnuts, I have had this problem upgrading from the kernel-image-2.4 kernels to the kernel-image-2.6 kernels before, tho I don't remember what I did to get the sytem to boot after |
| 20:29.51 | jim | zonezeid: one should be enough: because you're curious about it |
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| 20:30.02 | neurotope | zonezeid: because if you expect it to have 10 reasions its better than 3 other popular builds you oviously think well of it to begin with? |
| 20:30.11 | puff | zonezeid: I don't know about you, but as far as *I* am concerned, reasons #1-#5 are "Because all the people I call when I get stuck tell me to run debian" and reason #6-#10 are "apt, apt, apt, apt, apt" |
| 20:30.18 | cureless | vrt, have you touched the initrd? |
| 20:30.28 | vrt | cureless, no |
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| 20:30.51 | jim | vrt: running woody? or which? |
| 20:30.55 | cureless | vrt, did you install the kernel yourself or with apt? |
| 20:31.07 | vrt | jim, unstable |
| 20:31.16 | FieldySnuts | vrt: anyway, only time i've seen that is lack of /dev/console and or /dev/null , i just copy (rsync -aD actually) each one over from another system or some such |
| 20:31.30 | vrt | cureless, with apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 20:31.31 | FieldySnuts | common when migrating a system over, especially if it uses devfs |
| 20:31.39 | zonezeid | And they are all based on linux kernel, what's the difference between them? if there are differences can't we have them in only one distro? |
| 20:31.48 | cureless | vrt, did it tell you to do something about initrd? |
| 20:31.51 | puff | I really need to learn the ins and outs of DNS... I have a list of about a dozen files/tutorials/pages to read :-). |
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| 20:31.58 | jim | that should work... why unstable, btw? you're expected to provide solutions if you run that, and be experienced enough to do so :) |
| 20:32.01 | puff | zonezeid: Why are you asking? |
| 20:32.05 | cjfp | ^c: but actually, i've basically read all that (including the installation instructions). i was just wondering about an approx. date on xorg actually coming to debian... |
| 20:32.28 | zonezeid | because I don't know what distro to install in my cluster;) |
| 20:32.30 | puff | zonezeid: In other words, what's your goal here? |
| 20:32.31 | puff | Ah. |
| 20:32.38 | puff | Cluster? Idaknow about clusters. |
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| 20:32.51 | Blissex | zonezeid: choosing a distribution is like choosing a midsize car: they are almost all the same price and performance, just done differently to appeal to slightly different tastes. |
| 20:32.52 | ^c | cjfp: after the release of sarge as stable |
| 20:32.52 | cureless | zonezeid, install linux from scratch on every machine, one by one. |
| 20:32.54 | vrt | cureless, it said to add 'initrd=/initrd.img' to my lilo stanza |
| 20:33.00 | cjfp | ^c: cheers |
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| 20:33.10 | puff | The big difference between distros, AFAICT, is installation process, package management, and choices made in what versions and flavors of applications to include/support. |
| 20:33.23 | cureless | vrt, and did you? do the links on / match (the kernel and initrds)? |
| 20:33.35 | vrt | cureless, yes and yes |
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| 20:33.51 | ^c | puff: also file structure, and the placement of files |
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| 20:34.04 | puff | Debian is reputed (by all those people I call whenI get stuck) to be stabler... this is probably a result of choices of versions and coordination between them. |
| 20:34.37 | puff | ^c: Oh yeah, file system layout... Debian follows the Linus File System Standard. |
| 20:34.39 | puff | Where'd that come from, in any event? |
| 20:34.41 | cureless | Vrt, I assume you reran lilo since you don't have a problem booting the kernels themselves, just the root partition. |
| 20:34.45 | vrt | cureless, though I did not add the initrd line to the linuxOLD lilo stanza |
| 20:34.51 | uncleben | Hey, folks. I have a Linksys NC100 10/100 PCI card in an older box, running Sarge. The TX-ERR column keeps incrementing under netstat -i, but I am able to SSH into it, without problem. There's one machine that I see having trouble with it, with massive collisions. They're not on the same switch. Debian box is Samba PDC on small 10HDX switch which connects into DSL modem/router, as does the Windows domain client (XP). |
| 20:34.51 | cjfp | my brain can't deal with this channel. have fun you crazies ! |
| 20:34.54 | vrt | cureless, yea ran lilo |
| 20:35.10 | cureless | Vrt, well, the initrd on old might be the reason you can't boot 2.4 |
| 20:35.21 | vrt | cureless, yea right |
| 20:35.24 | zonezeid | this channel is so active that I can't read the lines;) |
| 20:35.38 | puff | zonezeid: Oh, yeah, and finally, a huge difference between distros, which I sort of alluded to when I gave you my reasons #1-#5, is the community/market that uses the distro. |
| 20:35.38 | cureless | zonezeid, that should be a reason for you. |
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| 20:35.39 | uncleben | I'm able to do an apt-get update and upgrade, but it's slow, which I expect on a 10HDX hub |
| 20:36.06 | uncleben | anybody have any ideas? |
| 20:36.15 | puff | For example, debian has a heavily involved user community, strong open source ties, and seems (from what I can tell) to have captured the attention of a great many serious system admin types. |
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| 20:36.28 | puff | RedHat, on the other hand, has really heavy commercial adoption and corporate support. |
| 20:36.43 | cureless | uncleben, do you have the problem between all machines or just this machine? |
| 20:36.44 | puff | And also (perhaps these two are related) support for java stuff. |
| 20:37.05 | Blissex | puff: the one overriding Debian thing is the political correctness. Any commercial distro could go the Caldera way, but not Debian. |
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| 20:37.17 | puff | Blissex: Good point |
| 20:37.21 | cureless | vrt, fix 2.4, then once you can safely boot (create an entry other than linuxold) try to fix 2.6 |
| 20:37.24 | uncleben | cureless: Seems to be just this machine, so far. |
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| 20:38.04 | uncleben | The odd thing is that even with a good ssh session, I'm not seeing the TX-OK column incrementing at all. |
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| 20:38.07 | cureless | uncleben, check the cable, if it's long, is it standard? Was it bought or crimped? Did this happen before or did it just start happening? Have you tried other nics? |
| 20:38.38 | vrt | cureless, thanks for your help |
| 20:38.52 | cureless | vrt, no prob though we didn't solve the 2.6 problem. |
| 20:38.56 | puff | zonezeid: IRRC, debian was started out of a desire for a truly open source distro. |
| 20:38.59 | puff | See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-intro.en.html |
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| 20:39.13 | uncleben | cureless: I have no other NICs, cable is good. |
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| 20:39.35 | puff | This sort of forms the philosophical basis of the debian project and the debian community, which in turn leads to ideologically-motivated choices that you may not always like. |
| 20:39.59 | cureless | uncleben, how about hub/switch ports? you can also try with a crossover and another machine. |
| 20:40.07 | puff | For example, the debian crowd is very picky about free/non-free licensing, and refuses to allow the debian apt servers to be contaminated by non-free licenses. This can be inconvenient. |
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| 20:40.18 | uncleben | Not really. Hub is a little POS, and it's all we have. |
| 20:40.23 | Delph | uncleben: is the NIC good? I just had the recieve pin on one of my cheap nasty 8139's go |
| 20:40.31 | PerfDave | Hmm, puff appears to be talking shit. |
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| 20:40.41 | Delph | which lead to the fun "its pinging... the hub lights are flashing... why aren't i getting responses" |
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| 20:41.07 | uncleben | Delph: If that was the case, I wouldn't be able to ssh in |
| 20:41.09 | vrt | cureless, on my laptop when I had the same problem upgrading to kernel-image-2.6 I remember I installed some package related to devices, like udev or discover |
| 20:41.10 | Peter | are there any audio players installed by default with debian? |
| 20:41.12 | puff | Java's problems with debian are somewhat related, though I think most of the problem is that Sun is neurotic about letting people distribute the java binaries. This leads to installing java on debian in the debian way being a bit of a pain in the ass (compared to, say, installing any of thousands of other packages). |
| 20:41.12 | Glitch_Master | Gah... face... numb... |
| 20:41.15 | Glitch_Master | Anyway... |
| 20:41.31 | dud | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.34 | cureless | uncleben, if the card is 100 and the hub too, do they connect at 100 (is there a 100TX indicator?) or do they connect at 10? |
| 20:41.38 | dud | anyone remember? hehe |
| 20:41.41 | Peter | dud: owned |
| 20:41.50 | dud | hehe |
| 20:42.00 | Defenestrator | chapter 11? :P |
| 20:42.00 | dud | its such a typical IBM word... |
| 20:42.03 | dud | they love doing that |
| 20:42.13 | dud | not restructuring, but something like that |
| 20:42.21 | cureless | Peter, what do you mean as "default"? |
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| 20:42.26 | Glitch_Master | To remove the entire contents of a dir, including subfolders, force rm via "rm -f /dir/" ? |
| 20:42.28 | dud | returning to core business essentials or something |
| 20:42.36 | puff | PerfDave: Hmm, PerfDave appears to be leaping to conclusions. |
| 20:42.39 | Delph | cureless: you dont get anything. You install what you want. Choice, eh? =:) |
| 20:42.42 | uncleben | cureless: Hub is only 10-HDX |
| 20:42.44 | Peter | just a base installation. |
| 20:42.50 | Delph | uhh s/cureless/Peter/ |
| 20:42.52 | PerfDave | puff: Go fuck yourself, 'tard. |
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| 20:43.14 | Defenestrator | dud: 'concentrating on core competencies' ? |
| 20:43.19 | Peter | ppffft |
| 20:43.33 | Defenestrator | er... restructuring in order to more effectively concentrate on core competencies |
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| 20:43.37 | dud | Defenestrator, now we're getting somewhere hehe |
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| 20:43.45 | cureless | Peter, it depends what you selected. I'm pretty sure the minimal install doesn't have a player. |
| 20:44.04 | xnor | I need to setup a lpr print spooler with debian, can someone give me a hint where to start? |
| 20:44.21 | cureless | xnor, man lpr, man printcap |
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| 20:44.44 | cureless | xnor, or lprng |
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| 20:44.55 | Gathond | Glitch_Master: no, -r for recursive |
| 20:44.58 | xnor | cureless can that manage large amounts of printers/ques ? |
| 20:45.03 | zonezeid | can you show me some screenshots of debian? |
| 20:45.11 | Glitch_Master | Gathond: Thanks. |
| 20:45.13 | zonezeid | what is the latest version of debian? |
| 20:45.14 | cureless | zonezeid, are you for real? |
| 20:45.15 | dud | rm -R /dir Glitch_Master |
| 20:45.17 | Gathond | Glitch_Master: "rm -r dir" removes a directory and anything in it |
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| 20:45.36 | zonezeid | cureless: I want to see debian screen-shots;) |
| 20:45.44 | Gathond | Glitch_Master: -f is for forcing things, making it ignore read only and so forth and just do whatever it can to delete them |
| 20:45.47 | zonezeid | in website there aren't screen-shots:P |
| 20:46.02 | puff | PerfDave: Dude, decaf really can taste just as good, if you make it right. |
| 20:46.10 | cureless | zonezeid, just look at any screenshots, they can all aply to debian. kde, gnome, etc. kde-look.org, art.gnome.org, etc. |
| 20:46.13 | dud | you can make debian look anyway you want |
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| 20:46.48 | cureless | zonezeid, the same as the redhat, fedora, suse screenshots but without the YaST and the redhat control center. |
| 20:46.49 | dud | from white/black console to the latest greatest kde/gnome/xfce with transparency and shadowed windows :) |
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| 20:47.06 | m0rbid | Did sarge get released?? |
| 20:47.28 | drac | m0rbid: /topic |
| 20:47.29 | zonezeid | cureless: so debian is what? the kernel, the gui? or the distro? :PPPPP |
| 20:47.30 | zonezeid | :) |
| 20:47.39 | puff | zonezeid: Yes. |
| 20:47.40 | m0rbid | zonezeid: distro |
| 20:47.46 | Blissex | zonezeid: it is a primarily an organization. |
| 20:47.52 | Assid | hes doing it on purpose |
| 20:47.54 | drac | mafia. |
| 20:47.56 | cureless | zonezeid, are you testing us (the channel)? |
| 20:48.05 | PerfDave | puff: OK, you're just trolling now, you odious cunt. |
| 20:48.16 | m0rbid | jees.. |
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| 20:48.22 | puff | PerfDave: *I* am trolling? Yeesh. |
| 20:48.35 | Assid | x-mas |
| 20:48.38 | Assid | wow.. thats far |
| 20:48.42 | Blissex | zonezeid: Debian, the organization, produces several things: some distributions, documentation, a package repository |
| 20:48.58 | PerfDave | puff: You're spreading misinformation and resorting to personal attacks when called on it. That's a pretty good definition of a troll. Now fuck off. |
| 20:49.02 | puff | PerfDave: I realize it's a busy channel, but you really might want to read what you're criticizing before criticizing. |
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| 20:49.31 | PerfDave | puff: And you might want to fuck off and stop trolling here. |
| 20:49.36 | xnor | what do i need to make it possible for windows to send a print job to linux and the linuxbox will que the jobs etc..?? |
| 20:49.37 | m0rbid | Order in the court please. |
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| 20:49.45 | cureless | xnor, samba |
| 20:49.52 | m0rbid | xnor, faith, oh and samba |
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| 20:50.23 | xnor | m0rbid is it possible without samba? some lpr solution? |
| 20:50.23 | m0rbid | and cups... |
| 20:50.33 | m0rbid | not to my knowledge |
| 20:50.36 | m0rbid | which isnt much |
| 20:50.57 | cureless | there might be some comertial programs for windows to print on lpr spools, but I don't know windows. |
| 20:51.13 | Delph | xnor: samba. |
| 20:51.22 | PerfDave | xnor: I think that Windows has some ability to print to Unix servers with the free "Unix Services for Windows" add-on pack, but don't hold me to that. |
| 20:51.25 | Delph | "no really, use samba. It's the easiest way of doing it" |
| 20:51.41 | Defenestrator | you can use cups/lpr, but samba's probably easier |
| 20:52.10 | xnor | Okey great thanks for the tips ill check it out |
| 20:52.15 | Defenestrator | with samba, the complication's on the server side and you only have to deal with it once, instead of on each and every client |
| 20:52.29 | cahoot | xnor: w2k and xp prints natively to cups |
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| 20:52.52 | si|vercat | annoying thing that my scroll is assigned to wrong buttons on my 12-button mouse.. I tried xev and the scrolling is actually set to buttons 11 and 12, which the ZAxis-option in my XFree-config.. |
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| 20:53.18 | indes | lol |
| 20:53.32 | indes | a 12 button mouse? |
| 20:53.36 | indes | thats more than two buttons per finger/thumb |
| 20:53.37 | xnor | cahoot is it hard to setup? :) |
| 20:53.46 | knt | are you sure it is a mouse? |
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| 20:53.54 | indes | yea, haha sounds like a keyboard to me |
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| 20:54.05 | si|vercat | it's a MX-1000 |
| 20:54.26 | si|vercat | with horizontal scroll, cruise control buttons and 3 thumb-buttons :P |
| 20:54.30 | cahoot | xnor: no just give the ui like http://server:631/printers/printer (IIRC) |
| 20:54.37 | indes | cruise contrl? |
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| 20:54.38 | Delph | si|vercat: a lazer engine? |
| 20:54.45 | Delph | does it drive itself round corners? |
| 20:54.46 | si|vercat | Delph, yep |
| 20:55.02 | indes | MMMHMMMMMMMM anwyay |
| 20:55.11 | Delph | si|vercat: and does it actually charge on its base, instead of falling off like most of them do? |
| 20:55.29 | si|vercat | delph, yes. too bad it doesn't use usb for power though :( |
| 20:56.40 | si|vercat | but I feel this isn't getting me any closer to solving my scroll-problem.. |
| 20:56.42 | xnor | cahoot: ui ? windows prints to that url? |
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| 20:56.58 | cahoot | xnor: yes - typing error |
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| 20:57.51 | xnor | cahoot: aha ok :) the win client needs to have the devicedriver for the specific printer also? |
| 20:58.15 | cahoot | xnor: yes - you need a raw printerqueue on the server |
| 20:58.26 | cureless | xnor, how about if you ask the questions about the debian setup and not the windows setup? |
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| 20:59.45 | leikh | how on earth do i add headers_rewrite rules for exim4 when i have this in the config: DEBCONFheaders_rewriteDEBCONF ? (i.e: i have no idea where to put the rules) |
| 20:59.50 | cahoot | xnor: and you must make sure the cups server accepts connections - read cupsd.conf |
| 21:00.39 | xnor | cahoot: can this solution handle about 200 printers? is it hard to maintain? |
| 21:01.08 | cahoot | xnor: haha - out of my league - no idea |
| 21:01.11 | Defenestrator | the number of printers it can handle probably depends on the hardware |
| 21:01.57 | Glitch_Master | There, now timidity has every patch, though I wish some were better. Whatever roland bank M$ stole had some good patches, sadly. |
| 21:02.09 | cahoot | Defenestrator: multiple raw queues any idea? |
| 21:02.18 | Defenestrator | eh... I dunno |
| 21:02.24 | Glitch_Master | Roland* ..I mustn't disrespect them... |
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| 21:02.54 | orjan | I just installed fluidsynth, not much docs. Do I need to install soundfonts too? |
| 21:03.33 | toresbe | what slots are the P-III slot processors? |
| 21:04.33 | Glitch_Master | Just out of curiosity... Would anyone happen to know a way of extracting those patches? I'm afraid it hasn't already been done and posted online, to my knowledge... but... um... |
| 21:04.36 | Glitch_Master | Heh.. Nevermind. |
| 21:04.38 | Defenestrator | slot 1 |
| 21:04.40 | Glitch_Master | (midi patches) |
| 21:07.07 | reamtS | what is the man-page package for c++ libraries? |
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| 21:07.19 | Osax | hello all |
| 21:07.24 | Glitch_Master | Hey... is there any way for me to actually get the synth volume louder? Mixer utilities don't do it, and Timidity doesn't seem to have a volume setting. |
| 21:07.48 | Osax | i want to install debian on an AMD Athlon 64bit.. should i use ia64? |
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| 21:07.51 | Glitch_Master | I wrote most of these midis, and they usually have the highest volume possible. |
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| 21:08.17 | Unified | hi, is there a knoppix support chan or can i ask here? |
| 21:08.32 | ^c | Unified: #knoppic |
| 21:08.33 | ^c | Unified: #knoppix |
| 21:08.40 | PerfDave | Osax: #debian-amd64 |
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| 21:08.54 | Osax | PerfDave, thanks :) |
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| 21:10.15 | kos_tom | hello |
| 21:10.20 | KB1FYR | hey |
| 21:10.28 | Osax | PerfDave, any idea? no answer in there :-( |
| 21:10.31 | kos_tom | I've just uploaded my SSH key on Alioth, but svn.debian.org is still asking me for a password |
| 21:10.44 | PerfDave | Osax: Nope |
| 21:10.56 | Osax | ok thanks |
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| 21:11.08 | valdyn | Osax: you may want to just use debian-i386 since debian-amd64 is not even sid and unstable |
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| 21:11.36 | bellot | help ! |
| 21:11.37 | KB1FYR | Hey guys, I installed debian on my PPC box last night, and I accidentally didn't check anything in the package setup box... I meant to choose "desktop". So... is there any way to get back to that and reinstall? |
| 21:11.54 | Blissex | KB1FYR: no need to... |
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| 21:12.00 | KB1FYR | No need to? |
| 21:12.05 | beth | no need to reinstall |
| 21:12.08 | ^c | KB1FYR: just install the packages you want |
| 21:12.08 | Blissex | KB1FYR: use 'tasksel' for example to choose a group of packages by topic. |
| 21:12.13 | beth | you can just run tasksel and select desktop |
| 21:12.23 | KB1FYR | OhSmiTt, very cool. |
| 21:12.27 | KB1FYR | gah |
| 21:12.34 | KB1FYR | stupid nick autocompletion |
| 21:12.53 | KB1FYR | thanks guys, I'll go do that |
| 21:12.56 | KB1FYR | bye |
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| 21:13.25 | kos_tom | what's wrong ? |
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| 21:14.31 | ludi | Anyone know what the deal is with the update servers? |
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| 21:16.13 | cafuego | ludi: The deal is, you fetch package lists from them, then actual updates. |
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| 21:18.57 | yalu | any speedtouch usb owners here? does anyone know if it works out of the box if you use the right firmware files? |
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| 21:20.59 | newone | how do i change the name that my router sees for my computer? |
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| 21:21.56 | jim | what name does it see now? |
| 21:22.48 | sinrrr | i'm having a weird issue with boot-floppies... make check says i need libgd-dev and libpng2-dev... but any time i try to apt-get install one of them... the other one is removed... |
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| 21:23.07 | jim | why use boot-floppies? what are you trying to do/ |
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| 21:23.28 | newone | unknown |
| 21:23.34 | sinrrr | make my own install cd |
| 21:23.52 | jim | boot-floppies are being obsoleted because it's very hard to maintain (what with floppy images and cd images and etc) |
| 21:24.10 | jim | you had to rebuild any time you made any change |
| 21:24.26 | jim | you should look into debian-installer |
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| 21:24.59 | sinrrr | is that in stable or testing? |
| 21:25.05 | jim | testing |
| 21:25.08 | sinrrr | ok |
| 21:25.09 | lobomufas | hi |
| 21:25.18 | sinrrr | thanks |
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| 21:25.21 | bohan | erm.. apt-get source libgtkmm-2.4-dev fails to extract the archive on debian testing |
| 21:25.27 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: say dpkg: irritate Phated |
| 21:25.29 | ravenbird | dpkg: irritate Phated |
| 21:25.30 | dpkg | Phated: Y iz debain so old? who uses kde plz msg me, distempr |
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| 21:25.41 | newone | in my router, my computer name is currently listed as unknown, how can i change the name of my computer? |
| 21:26.22 | sinrrr | newone: i think that would require your router having something similar to a host table entry... or using a DNS server. |
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| 21:27.10 | resiak | Bad FieldySnuts. |
| 21:27.55 | newone | it shows my xp box by the same name as other computers on the network see it, but my debian box is listed as unknown in the router but on the xp box networking area it shows the name i assigned it |
| 21:27.57 | jim | one way: run a name server on the router and create yourself an unpublished domain, say called newone.internal then make sure your computer gets the same internal ip every time and then add it to the domain as mycomputer.newone.internal |
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| 21:28.06 | Xemacs_ | resiak, I dont think that will help (AT ALL) |
| 21:28.57 | jeaneid | is there any utility that synchronizes two directories. something like rsync but is two ways. if the machine A has a newer version of the file syncronize A to B if machine A has older file syncronize B to A that |
| 21:29.14 | kos_tom | unison |
| 21:29.15 | cureless | jeaneid: run 2 rsyncs. |
| 21:29.29 | jim | nfs mount :) |
| 21:29.40 | kos_tom | jeaneid: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ |
| 21:29.43 | resiak | Xemacs_: It was meant as a joke. |
| 21:29.51 | jim | then you don't need to sync |
| 21:29.57 | Glitch_Master | Would anyone happen to have a copy of the original timidity config file? A big bundle of improvements that I just 'installed' happened to have a replacement for it, and now I can't remember the lines to disable reverb and such... |
| 21:30.06 | jeaneid | cureless: how can that be? while one copy is been uploaded the other is been downloaded???? |
| 21:30.10 | FieldySnuts | afs or intermezzo, unfortunately both of which are in a shitty state |
| 21:30.16 | newone | jim: there isn't a config file on the computer itself so that if i were to bring my laptop to my buddy's place it would have the same name on his network? how does the router know the name of the xp box? |
| 21:30.21 | cureless | jeaneid: run one, then the other. |
| 21:30.28 | Glitch_Master | It was like opt-reverb commented... I think... Wait... no.. That'd make it no reverb by default. It must be no-reverb or something... |
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| 21:30.39 | jim | Glitch_Master: look in the dir where it is |
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| 21:31.01 | Glitch_Master | jim: You don't understand. It has already been replaced by one without those lines. |
| 21:31.04 | jeaneid | cureless: ok I see your point . I wma going to also take a look at kos_tom's suggestion |
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| 21:31.12 | sinrrr | newone: what kind of router is it? |
| 21:31.17 | jeaneid | kos_tom: is this a fast utility |
| 21:31.24 | jim | Glitch_Master: are you sure it didn't leave a backup? |
| 21:31.28 | cureless | jeaneid: I've never used unison, so I can't say, but the 2 rsyncs work. |
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| 21:32.06 | Xemacs_ | Glitch_Master, there are archives of potato ? |
| 21:32.25 | newone | USR 8054 |
| 21:32.25 | jim | archive.debian.org |
| 21:32.25 | Fubuki | hey guys I need some assistance with my window manager |
| 21:32.26 | Glitch_Master | jim: I don't think it did. I see timidity.cfg~, but unfortunately it was also created from the copy/replace I did. |
| 21:32.44 | resiak | Xemacs_: They're evolving into new lifeforms on my shelf. |
| 21:32.51 | Fubuki | when i do update-alternatives --config x-window-manager it gives me my options which i can change |
| 21:32.53 | sinrrr | newone: try asking their support... it's some 'feature' |
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| 21:33.11 | jeaneid | cureless: thanks |
| 21:33.12 | Xemacs_ | resiak, keep it in the fridge next time |
| 21:33.15 | Fubuki | but it will only load either Gnome or KDE which change if i do update-alternatives --config x-session-manager |
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| 21:33.21 | resiak | !tell Fubuki about enter |
| 21:33.27 | cureless | jeaneid: no prob. |
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| 21:33.52 | Glitch_Master | Xemacs_: Potatoes don't keep in the fridge. |
| 21:34.02 | jim | but potatoheads do :) |
| 21:34.07 | Glitch_Master | o.O |
| 21:34.18 | Fubuki | i have done apt-get install enlightenment and its suggested packages as well as apt-get install fluxbox. |
| 21:34.26 | Fubuki | and i am not the only person that is not using periods resiak |
| 21:34.30 | totzilla | if potatos had kids would they be tater tots? |
| 21:34.42 | resiak | Fubuki: Yeah, but you're the one who's spreading his question over about 10 lines. |
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| 21:35.05 | jim | and fat potato kids would be totzillas?! |
| 21:35.23 | jim | sorry, couldn't resist :) it was right there in your nick L:) |
| 21:35.29 | totzilla | :) |
| 21:35.32 | Glitch_Master | Let's do this the easy way. Who here has timidity, and has not replaced the config file for it? |
| 21:35.33 | ircdevil | gnite |
| 21:35.36 | jetscreamer | los hijos de los pappas gordas!!! |
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| 21:35.46 | resiak | Xemacs_: They're developing primitive intelligence, and have formed a progressive folk quartet. |
| 21:35.51 | streuner_ | jetscreamer: ! |
| 21:36.02 | jetscreamer | streuner,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
| 21:36.08 | jim | Glitch_Master: so you want the original config, but from what version? |
| 21:36.09 | streuner_ | :-) |
| 21:36.24 | Glitch_Master | jim: Um...... Crap... Can't... find... version... O_<; |
| 21:36.37 | Glitch_Master | jim: I just recently got it, so probably whatever you have. |
| 21:36.48 | Glitch_Master | jim: That is, if you have the most recent version. |
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| 21:36.55 | jim | so this is after you edited |
| 21:37.04 | Glitch_Master | resiak: Can I buy one of your amazingtastic potato peoples? |
| 21:37.15 | cureless | Glitch_Master: why don't you install it again? |
| 21:37.17 | jetscreamer | why not dpkg -i --force-conf or whatever |
| 21:37.19 | resiak | Glitch_Master: Do you have a magic carpet? |
| 21:37.22 | jim | see if you have a /var/cache/apt/archives/timidity_*.deb |
| 21:37.38 | Glitch_Master | cureless: This way would be easier. |
| 21:37.47 | cureless | Glitch_Master: how's so? |
| 21:38.03 | Glitch_Master | cureless: Well... I wouldn't have to back up my existing directory... and stuff... |
| 21:38.23 | jim | why would you have to do that just to reinstall one single package? :) |
| 21:38.26 | cureless | Glitch_Master: err... ? |
| 21:38.48 | equnix | i need help regarding my internet sharing, to share you internet connection there has to be a firewall wrking, my problem is that my Firestarter starts more fires then puts them out :( |
| 21:38.57 | Glitch_Master | Well... actually I'd only have to back up the existing config file to add the replaced lines to it... but... |
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| 21:39.03 | Glitch_Master | Um.. |
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| 21:39.13 | Glitch_Master | The install is only the app and the config file, is it not? |
| 21:39.19 | Fubuki | so does anyone have a solution to my problem rather than complaining that im not using periods? |
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| 21:39.31 | FieldySnuts | @apostrophesmite Fubuki |
| 21:39.32 | Glitch_Master | Fubuki: OMG USE PERIODS!!!!1 |
| 21:39.36 | cafuego | equnix: You only need one rule to share your connection. |
| 21:39.42 | jim | Glitch_Master: and docs, and some adminsstrative stuff |
| 21:39.54 | Xemacs_ | equnix, google nat routing |
| 21:39.59 | resiak | Fubuki: Look, it's not that, it |
| 21:40.09 | cafuego | equnix: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o [ppp0] -j MASQUERADE (Where ppp0 is whatever you use as external interface) |
| 21:40.09 | Glitch_Master | Well docs and administrative stuff aren't really a problem... All in all the only thing I'd have to modify is the config file if I reinstall it, right? |
| 21:40.27 | resiak | Fubuki: Look, it's not that, it's that your problem is now scattered around the last three pages, and is hard to read. If you had written it all as a block of text, we could read it. |
| 21:40.45 | cafuego | equnix: And you need to enable ip fowarding. sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 |
| 21:40.50 | jim | Glitch_Master: right |
| 21:40.55 | Fubuki | ok here is the issue |
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| 21:41.07 | jim | if I had an issue... |
| 21:41.14 | jim | I'd issue in the mooooorning... |
| 21:41.22 | FieldySnuts | weirdos |
| 21:41.32 | PerfDave | equnix: You shouldn't need a firewall working to get NAT running. |
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| 21:42.02 | jim | PerfDave: but he would need some box to run the nat on |
| 21:42.05 | cafuego | equnix: When that's done, you will probably want to add a set of simple firewall rules for the WAN interface only. '/msg dpkg simple firewall'. You'll need to tune those, so it only blocks WAN interface stff (basicall, replicate the 'lo' line for your internal interface. |
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| 21:42.27 | Fubuki | I have done apt-get install fluxbox and apt-get install enlightenement. I am trying to change my window manager from KDE or Gnome to ANYTHING ELSE. when i do update-alternatives --config x-window-manager i get all the options however startx only starts Gnome or KDE depending on what is set in update-alternatives --config x-session-manager, which only shoes Gnome and KDE. Any Ideas? |
| 21:42.37 | cureless | Glitch_Master: do you have the deb? grab the deb you installed, extract the files (ar x timi..), untar.gz the data, get the config file. |
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| 21:43.09 | Glitch_Master | cureless: No. I used apt-get. |
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| 21:43.30 | cureless | Glitch_Master: in which case the file is in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 21:43.39 | abrotman | Fubuki: did you mess with your .xsession ? |
| 21:43.42 | cureless | Glitch_Master: unless you cleaned it. |
| 21:43.44 | jim | Fubuki: kde and gnome are sessions (well almost) not simply guis like wms are |
| 21:43.49 | Glitch_Master | cureless: Oh. Lemme check. |
| 21:43.52 | resiak | Fubuki: Firstly, Gnome and KDE aren't window managers: they're desktop environments. Secondly, investigate your ~/.xsession. |
| 21:43.54 | jetscreamer | well use apt-get -d |
| 21:43.59 | resiak | abrotman: Damn you. |
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| 21:44.06 | x1bncwn | so can anyone give me a hint how to fix my console, like instead of ansi characters in bitchx i get and similar weird characters? |
| 21:44.08 | abrotman | resiak: can i have your baby? |
| 21:44.26 | Fubuki | abrotman: no i did not touch .xsession |
| 21:44.38 | jim | is she about 25 and looks like Stephanie Seymour? |
| 21:44.39 | jetscreamer | <-- is that a box thing for you, x1bncwn ? |
| 21:44.45 | resiak | Fubuki: Maybe you should :) |
| 21:44.46 | ciphergoth | resiak: hey, in the days before we had desktop environments, a window manager was the nearest we ever got |
| 21:44.47 | abrotman | Fubuki: then i guess you should learn how to configure gdm/kdm to allow you to pick something else |
| 21:44.48 | jetscreamer | it's an A with 2 ..'s here |
| 21:44.58 | x1bncwn | yea, looks like an A to me |
| 21:45.02 | resiak | Fubuki: echo command_to_start_your_wm > ~/.xsession; startx |
| 21:45.04 | Phated | It's a diaresis. But I digress. :) |
| 21:45.05 | Fubuki | in my home directory for my user account i have .xsession-errors only no .xsession >.< |
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| 21:45.08 | jetscreamer | oh well that's normal then |
| 21:45.14 | resiak | ciphergoth: I'm just pointing out why he experienced what he did. |
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| 21:45.18 | Glitch_Master | Oh... nevermind... I had a backup copy of the config file anyway, regardless of the cache. |
| 21:45.23 | abrotman | Fubuki: sounds to me like you don't know what you're doing with respect to X |
| 21:45.26 | cafuego | Ä |
| 21:45.28 | ciphergoth | Ultimately you'd have to read the startup scripts for xdm to find out why it isn't starting it |
| 21:45.29 | jetscreamer | x1bncwn, dpkg-reconfigure locales && dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 21:45.33 | equnix | cafuego, external interface... as for my netcard? |
| 21:45.34 | ciphergoth | abrotman: nor should he have to of course. |
| 21:45.42 | x1bncwn | ok thanks, ill give that a shot |
| 21:45.59 | resiak | Mmm, ÜŦF-8. |
| 21:46.01 | cafuego | equnix: Your external interface is the one you run ppp on or the one that talks to the cable or dsl modem |
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| 21:46.17 | Fubuki | abrotman: i am used to the simplicity of Slackware with xwmconfig to change things for me. Thought id give debian a try because of a co-worked reccomending it. |
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| 21:46.31 | ciphergoth | but yes, as resiak says, a .xsession that reads "exec /usr/bin/X11/twm" (ideally with a line before it that says "#!/bin/sh") will do the trick |
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| 21:46.39 | ciphergoth | (that file needs to be chmod +x) |
| 21:46.43 | equnix | cafuego, whats ppp? |
| 21:46.50 | resiak | ciphergoth: I wasn't being pointlessly pedantic :) |
| 21:46.54 | chello | which mail-server should i use, if i want spam filtering, virus protection, mysql authentication and "easy" to configure? |
| 21:46.57 | cafuego | equnix: A way of tunneling Ip traffic over data links. |
| 21:47.04 | Phated | Sheesh. |
| 21:47.07 | jim | Fubuki: well, to say the least, prepare for some change :) |
| 21:47.07 | equnix | cafuego, sry for asking those stupid questions but im not familiar with these terms |
| 21:47.08 | cafuego | equnix: What sort of internet connection do you have? |
| 21:47.09 | Fubuki | cipergoth: so should i create a .xsession file? |
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| 21:47.17 | xixor | Yo everyone. Anyone know a way of getting xterm to read from ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile when started from X? My sysadmin doesn't want to add anything to /etc/profile for me |
| 21:47.21 | jim | Pheesh! |
| 21:47.21 | cafuego | !ruffle Phated |
| 21:47.27 | Phated | Fubuki: startx /usr/bin/fluxbox or startx /usr/bin/enlightenment will get you using -one- of your bloody wms. |
| 21:47.34 | equnix | cafuego, 8Mbit broadband Comhem |
| 21:47.41 | PerfDave | xixor: What is your default shell? |
| 21:47.42 | estel | how can i change my timezone? |
| 21:47.47 | PerfDave | estel: tzconfig |
| 21:47.49 | xixor | PerfDave: sh |
| 21:47.51 | Coax | is there eny way i can get a full list of packages installed with apt? |
| 21:47.53 | cafuego | equnix: So that's probably plugged into one of your network cards, right? |
| 21:47.59 | jetscreamer | chello postfix and spamassassin maybe, ymmv no idea i dunno |
| 21:48.09 | jetscreamer | coax dpkg -l |
| 21:48.09 | equnix | cafuego, yes, through a modem |
| 21:48.09 | Fubuki | Phated: thank you for giving me a straight answer |
| 21:48.10 | cureless | Coax: dpkg -l |
| 21:48.18 | resiak | Fubuki: I already _gave_ you a straight answer! |
| 21:48.20 | PerfDave | xixor: sh won't read your bash config files. Get your sysadmin to change your shell to bash, or use .profile which is IIRC read by sh. |
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| 21:48.35 | cafuego | equnix: *nod* So 8that* one is your external interface. |
| 21:48.37 | estel | PerfDave: thx |
| 21:48.38 | Phated | Fubuki: I'm trying to get rid of you so that resiak doesn't blow up all over the nice clean channel. |
| 21:48.40 | cureless | xixor: you can try to change your shell with chsh |
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| 21:49.05 | PerfDave | resiak: Chill. You should have come for beer, see? |
| 21:49.15 | Fubuki | resiak: you want me to type "echo startx > ~/.xsession; startx"? |
| 21:49.20 | xixor | PerfDave: yeah, sh doesn't seem to be reading ~/.profile |
| 21:49.21 | resiak | PerfDave: I really should have, you know. I stood in line for like half an hour for food. |
| 21:49.26 | equnix | cafuego, 8that* one |
| 21:49.26 | resiak | Fubuki: I did not tell you to do that. |
| 21:49.27 | ludi | cafuego: apt-get update |
| 21:49.28 | ludi | Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' |
| 21:49.29 | abrotman | ciphergoth: no . he should know .. it's not difficult ... |
| 21:49.33 | equnix | cafuego, ? |
| 21:49.34 | Fubuki | you said " echo command_to_start_your_wm > ~/.xsession; startx" |
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| 21:49.44 | abrotman | which is right |
| 21:49.46 | resiak | Fubuki: I can't be arsed here. Sorry. |
| 21:49.47 | abrotman | or one way to do it |
| 21:49.49 | cafuego | ludi: That means tyou have an error in your sources.list file. Run 'apt-setup' |
| 21:49.55 | cafuego | equnix: typo |
| 21:49.59 | Fubuki | arsed? |
| 21:49.59 | jim | Fubuki: I'm being quite serious when I say "prepare for change", because a lot of things in debian are different... not that your ability to edit your own config files won't help you here (they will)' |
| 21:50.03 | si|vercat | the scrolling with my 12-button mouse doesn't work.. or, it is assigned to wrong buttons.. xev says button 11 and 12 are the scroll-buttons, which are the buttons assigned to ZAxis in XF86Config-4.. |
| 21:50.04 | abrotman | !arse |
| 21:50.04 | dpkg | from memory, arse is something you shit out of. what?! |
| 21:50.06 | ludi | cafuego: but I haven't changed my sources.list file at all... |
| 21:50.11 | si|vercat | does .xinit have anything to do with it? |
| 21:50.19 | xenoduck | !hole in the ground |
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| 21:50.25 | zpn | is there a termcap-devel package for sarge? |
| 21:50.27 | xenoduck | dpkg obviously doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. |
| 21:50.27 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, xenoduck |
| 21:50.28 | cafuego | ludi: Then the server may have changed. |
| 21:50.50 | cafuego | zpn: No, termcap isn't used on debian, there'sa compatibility pkg though. |
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| 21:50.55 | ludi | cafuego: mirrors.kernel.org changed? |
| 21:50.56 | jim | how can it? it doens't know what a hole in the ground even is... how can it compare/ |
| 21:51.16 | ludi | ftp.debian.org works |
| 21:51.26 | equnix | cafuego, i dont get it... sry ... whats my external interface: the modem?or my netcard? |
| 21:51.27 | cafuego | ludi: Use that one, then. |
| 21:51.37 | Glitch_Master | Timidity is good now. |
| 21:51.41 | cafuego | equnix: Whatever the modem is plugged in to. |
| 21:51.41 | Fubuki | look ill just leave so you dont have a heart attack, you need to have paitence with people and understand some of us dont spend more than a few hours in front of our computers and ask stupid questions because we are trying to learn |
| 21:51.42 | Glitch_Master | I leave. |
| 21:51.56 | equnix | cafuego, ah, thnx |
| 21:52.02 | cafuego | zpn: 'termcap-compat' (But that's not for dev) |
| 21:52.18 | Fubuki | in reference to "echo command_to_start_your_wm > ~/.xsession; startx" the command_to_start_your_wm as far as i know is startx |
| 21:52.18 | abrotman | Fubuki: if you start your WM manually .. you have no issues? |
| 21:52.18 | xixor | Does anyone know if there is a way to change your default login shell if your not root? |
| 21:52.31 | cureless | xixor: I told you, "chsh" |
| 21:52.33 | Fubuki | its a temporary fix abrotman |
| 21:52.40 | abrotman | Fubuki: but you want kdm/gdm to start it .. you need to choose Debian session instead of Default |
| 21:52.45 | abrotman | well .. at least gdm |
| 21:52.48 | juan | who know a good how to for compile xorg into debian? |
| 21:52.51 | zpn | cafuego::i'm compiling a program that requires termcap support. i've already install that package, but i'm still pulling errors |
| 21:52.52 | x1bncwn | hrm, ok well 'dpkg-reconfigure locales && dpkg-reconfigure console-data' didnt seem to do anything, i just selected the same locales i did the first time, and the same keymap, but it doesnt seem to change anything with the console |
| 21:52.54 | cureless | xixor: but root needs needs to say which shells are allowed. |
| 21:53.14 | equnix | cafuego, so instead of [ppp0] i type etho1 or is it [etho1] |
| 21:53.15 | abrotman | Fubuki: does that make sense ? .. gdm and kdm will always start thier respective DE as far as i know |
| 21:53.27 | Fubuki | abrotman: yes |
| 21:53.28 | Xemacs_ | i just add xemacs to /etc/shells |
| 21:53.29 | cafuego | zpn: I'm pretty sure debian uses curses instead, do you have libncurses5-dev installed? |
| 21:53.31 | resiak | abrotman: Well, GDM saves the last one you picked from its menu. |
| 21:53.34 | abrotman | Fubuki: so i think that even if you update-alternatives to fluxbox .. but still just log in .. you're going to get gnome |
| 21:53.37 | cureless | gdm and kdm can be set to run whatever you want. |
| 21:53.38 | abrotman | resiak: yes . iknow |
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| 21:53.40 | Phated | abrotman: Not so. |
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| 21:53.45 | abrotman | resiak: i was leaving that out for simplicitiy |
| 21:53.47 | resiak | !correct abrotman |
| 21:53.49 | cafuego | equnix: eth0 or eth1 |
| 21:53.51 | zpn | no i have termcap-compat |
| 21:53.52 | resiak | abrotman: Ah. Continue :) |
| 21:53.52 | abrotman | cureless: i know they can |
| 21:54.03 | abrotman | Phated: which not so? |
| 21:54.10 | cafuego | zpn: Then libncurses5-dev will sort out your problems. |
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| 21:54.33 | Phated | abrotman: That you just get gnome, but seeing as you've stated your reason of simplicity, which I agree should be used in the case of this particular person seeking aid... I withdraw my point. |
| 21:54.50 | equnix | cafuego, so, when i typed that line... im i done or do i haveto configurate something more? |
| 21:54.59 | abrotman | Phated: if you specify nothing different at any point .. you will get gnome |
| 21:55.09 | abrotman | Phated: even if you change your update-alternatives thing |
| 21:55.14 | Phated | abrotman: You could not install gnome, of course, and you'd get your default wm. |
| 21:55.20 | cafuego | equnix: If that was the -j MASQUERADE line, you'll now need to run 'sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1' |
| 21:55.24 | abrotman | Phated: too simple :) |
| 21:55.25 | xixor | cureless: sorry about that cureless, I didn't see your first post on it |
| 21:55.33 | cureless | xixor: no prob. |
| 21:55.35 | abrotman | Fubuki: is this all clear now? |
| 21:55.41 | cafuego | equnix: That tells the kernel it has to be a router, so it starts forwarding network packets. |
| 21:55.42 | Phated | abrotman: <sigh> |
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| 21:55.47 | abrotman | Fubuki: or do you need it explained better/another way? |
| 21:55.57 | Fubuki | ok im taking a stab in the dark here |
| 21:56.10 | abrotman | Fubuki: by doing what? |
| 21:56.12 | cureless | Fubuki: what's still dark? |
| 21:56.21 | abrotman | Fubuki: which DM are you using .. and which WM do you want? |
| 21:56.22 | cafuego | equnix: After running that, add a corresponding entry in /etc/sysctl.conf , so it automagically does it next time it boots up. |
| 21:56.22 | equnix | cafuego, thnx mate! |
| 21:56.24 | Fubuki | im trying to work with what resiak said |
| 21:56.33 | totzilla | i just installed debian and upgraded , if i run apt-get clean will that free up some hd space? |
| 21:56.41 | cureless | Fubuki: what is your ultimate goal? |
| 21:56.45 | PerfDave | totzilla: man apt-get |
| 21:56.45 | Fubuki | resiak: you wanted me to type echo /usr/bin/enlightenment > ~/.xsession; startx |
| 21:56.50 | cureless | totzilla: yes. |
| 21:56.53 | Phated | Oh, for -christ's- sake, -really-. Just... friggin alias startx to 'startx /usr/bin/yourwindowmanager' and start it manually. |
| 21:56.57 | abrotman | Fubuki: if you use GDM .. and put what WM you want in your ~/.xsession .. and choose Debian Session from the available sessions .. you will get what you want |
| 21:56.59 | totzilla | thanks cureless |
| 21:57.09 | totzilla | thanks PerfDave |
| 21:57.18 | Fubuki | look im not trying to be annoying or trying to be a dick |
| 21:57.26 | Fubuki | im trying to learn something here |
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| 21:57.35 | abrotman | Fubuki: the way i just described is probably the most 'debian' way of doing it |
| 21:57.36 | Phated | You're not picking it up very well. |
| 21:57.45 | abrotman | !pick up Fubuki |
| 21:57.45 | equnix | cafuego, so i just put the line "sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" in the doc? |
| 21:57.46 | Fubuki | you dont need to be an asshole Phated |
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| 21:57.52 | abrotman | damn .. |
| 21:58.03 | abrotman | sometimes i wish dpkg had some real logic :) |
| 21:58.04 | cafuego | equnix: No, just net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 (like the saples it has) |
| 21:58.07 | cureless | Fubuki: install gdm, create a .desktop file for your favorite session (in case there isn't one already), now you can choose your wm from the session types at login. |
| 21:58.07 | cafuego | samples too |
| 21:58.08 | jetscreamer | girls aren't assholes, there's another name.... |
| 21:58.17 | jetscreamer | :P |
| 21:58.28 | toymachine | sup i added this line to my sources.list: |
| 21:58.28 | cafuego | jetscreamer: you can say cunt, I promise I won't be offended. |
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| 21:58.35 | toymachine | deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/ unstable main non-free |
| 21:58.37 | cureless | I know plenty of girls who I can consider assholes. |
| 21:58.42 | toymachine | and i can't apt-get update without errors |
| 21:58.49 | dondelelcaro | or better, just use the Debian session and play with .xsession |
| 21:58.50 | abrotman | Fubuki: and you don't need to be mean to phated .. at this point .. Phated knows more than you .. Phated might actually help you if be nice |
| 21:58.51 | jetscreamer | no i was thinking bitches |
| 21:58.54 | Phated | I know plenty of males I consider cunts. Same difference. |
| 21:59.04 | toymachine | err |
| 21:59.04 | *** mode/#debian [+l 755] by debhelper |
| 21:59.04 | asuffield | Phated: you must have a very strange imagination |
| 21:59.10 | toymachine | deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian unstable main non-free |
| 21:59.27 | jetscreamer | we call them dicks |
| 21:59.29 | equnix | cafuego, when editing docs like that is it just to paste it into the doc anywhere i like or in the bottom? |
| 21:59.45 | toymachine | any ideas? |
| 21:59.50 | jetscreamer | !idea |
| 21:59.51 | dpkg | [idea] meaning you don't know. |
| 21:59.55 | jetscreamer | !ideas |
| 21:59.56 | cafuego | equnix: Whereever seems appropriate |
| 22:00.01 | Fubuki | look im not trying to be mean to ANYONE. but Phated is being VERY rude. |
| 22:00.02 | jetscreamer | dammit what's the factoid |
| 22:00.09 | jetscreamer | !any ideas |
| 22:00.09 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of herring, a little sauerkraut, and 42 starving bunnies. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 22:00.14 | jetscreamer | there we go |
| 22:00.21 | Phated | asuffield: <shrug> They -say- they're male, they're -supposed- to have the respective genitalia, and yet, they behave in such a way that allows me to classify them as nothing but undeniably -female-, bitchy at best, and cunts at worst. |
| 22:00.21 | abrotman | Fubuki: then brush it off .. you're not helping by cursing at her |
| 22:00.25 | dondelelcaro | Fubuki: look, Phated hasn't said anything specifically to you in the past few pages of scrollback |
| 22:00.26 | abrotman | i can't believe i just said that |
| 22:00.32 | dondelelcaro | Fubuki: if you can't handle it, employ /ignore |
| 22:00.46 | cafuego | Fubuki: See that /ignore command? |
| 22:00.49 | Phated | dondelelcaro: I have, actually. Somewhat further back, though. |
| 22:00.51 | abrotman | Fubuki: which method are you trying .. the startx or gdm method ? |
| 22:01.00 | Fubuki | abrotman: startx |
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| 22:01.23 | abrotman | Fubuki: and does it work now? |
| 22:01.29 | equnix | cafuego, oh god, man, this shit is harder then i thought ... good thing its fun and for the right causes else i had already been dead :D |
| 22:01.35 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: been down that road :) |
| 22:01.38 | Phated | dondelelcaro: That's what they've been trying to tell him. |
| 22:01.46 | equnix | cafuego, and thnx id never done it without you |
| 22:01.51 | equnix | cafuego, peace out |
| 22:01.54 | cafuego | equnix: Well, setting up a decent network isn't a trivial activity :-) |
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| 22:02.07 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: hrm.. and for my information, what is so evil about .xsession? |
| 22:02.11 | jetscreamer | startx -e /usr/bin/enlightenment |
| 22:02.15 | Fubuki | look abrotman i appriciate your help, time and paitence. |
| 22:02.18 | cafuego | equnix: When you have time, have a look at /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/ - there's a LOT of docs there. |
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| 22:02.33 | equnix | cafuego, good thing to know though ... gonna steal my mothers computer some day and use it as my internet sharer :D |
| 22:02.39 | Fubuki | im trying to figure this out while at work and do other things at once |
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| 22:02.43 | cafuego | equnix: <heh> |
| 22:02.44 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: huh? |
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| 22:02.52 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i said it was evil? |
| 22:02.53 | equnix | cafuego, i shall take a look in those dacs |
| 22:02.53 | raf256 | wazuup |
| 22:03.03 | jetscreamer | .xsession is PURE EVIL! |
| 22:03.05 | Fubuki | but just one last thing |
| 22:03.08 | raf256 | what is the best way to add firewall startup script? |
| 22:03.08 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: I mean, why hasn't .xsession been employed to solve this problem so we can all go to the bar and have a few pints? |
| 22:03.15 | jetscreamer | ok it's lawful evil |
| 22:03.24 | zappy | Fubuki: I didn't read the whole thing about your problem... did u try to put the lien to exec ur wm in .xinitrc ? That's the file startx sources |
| 22:03.24 | streuner_ | heh |
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| 22:03.28 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: he's been told a few times .. i also suggested another way .. either way .. i think he's working on it now |
| 22:03.45 | dondelelcaro | raf256: call it from up; in your /etc/network/interfaces file. |
| 22:03.47 | Phated | dondelelcaro: Because, sir, in trying to lrean something, he's been asking several questions, and not actually -using- it. |
| 22:03.49 | Fubuki | when i do echo /usr/bin/enlightenment > ~/.xsession; startx as resiak asked me to i get X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 22:04.02 | resiak | Fubuki: chmod +x ~/.xsession |
| 22:04.09 | resiak | Fubuki: Sorry, I did miss that out, and that's my bad. |
| 22:04.17 | resiak | !lose me |
| 22:04.18 | dpkg | resiak: You Lose. |
| 22:04.21 | abrotman | !punish resiak for forgetting a minute detail |
| 22:04.23 | Fubuki | resiak: thank you |
| 22:04.46 | jetscreamer | ~lart lart |
| 22:04.48 | raf256 | dondelelcaro: what was the sytax for that... uhm, pre-up: /etc/init.d/my-fw-script.sh? where shoul I kept this script, what chmod should it have? |
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| 22:04.52 | Fubuki | ; ; still gives me that same error output resiak |
| 22:05.01 | dondelelcaro | raf256: alternatively, there's an example in /usr/share/doc/iptables/examples; or some such |
| 22:05.06 | asuffield | "sir"? geez |
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| 22:05.14 | dondelelcaro | raf256: up: /etc/network/my-fw-script.sh; |
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| 22:05.19 | resiak | Bah. |
| 22:05.20 | Phated | I believe he might have configured it to only allow root to start an x server when he configured it, resiak. |
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| 22:05.35 | sanmarcos | what probvides libstdc++.so.6? |
| 22:05.39 | jetscreamer | gdm is .dmrc i think |
| 22:05.49 | streuner_ | !find libstdc++.so.6 |
| 22:05.53 | jetscreamer | reads from |
| 22:05.56 | streuner_ | !libstdc++.so.6 |
| 22:05.56 | resiak | Phated: How does one do that? |
| 22:06.00 | sanmarcos | streuner: found it |
| 22:06.00 | zinx | sanmarcos: dpkg -S libstdc++.so.6 |
| 22:06.02 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++.so.6' returned no results. |
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| 22:06.08 | Fubuki | ok ive bothered you long enough |
| 22:06.15 | terry__ | whats the c programming channel on freenode?? |
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| 22:06.18 | resiak | Fubuki: What I told you should work, I'm afraid. |
| 22:06.20 | resiak | terry__: Take a guess. |
| 22:06.25 | resiak | Fubuki: ...that I don't know why it isn't. |
| 22:06.28 | vulture | terry__: I wonder what it might be called.. |
| 22:06.34 | terry__ | resiak, #c isnt the channel I remember |
| 22:06.37 | resiak | terry__: This channel is about Debian, and is called #debian. |
| 22:06.38 | jetscreamer | it's #visualC# |
| 22:06.41 | resiak | Aww, ruin my fun :) |
| 22:06.41 | Fubuki | when i do that echo command should that launch xwindows? |
| 22:06.41 | Phated | resiak: It's a question I remember being asked somewhere, options being "only root", "only console users", "console and remote users". |
| 22:06.43 | zinx | terry__: that's the one, though. |
| 22:06.43 | vulture | terry__: ?.. |
| 22:06.43 | abrotman | Fubuki: you could also try the GDM way |
| 22:06.48 | streuner_ | jetscreamer: hehe |
| 22:07.02 | resiak | Phated: FTLOG, why would one want to do the former? |
| 22:07.03 | vulture | terry__: you asked if there was a C programming channel on freenode, #C is about C programming, it's on freenode, what more do you want? |
| 22:07.12 | jetscreamer | yeah i remember that question Phated |
| 22:07.13 | terry__ | yes, sorry |
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| 22:07.23 | Phated | resiak: You mean the first. I usually set it to the second, but yes, some might do it. |
| 22:07.33 | resiak | Phated: I guess that I do mean the former. |
| 22:07.42 | Fubuki | when i did the apt-get for enlightenment i was not asked anything other than the usual question of it will take up x amount of space. |
| 22:07.50 | cafuego | free(terry_) |
| 22:07.53 | jetscreamer | what's your point |
| 22:08.04 | cafuego | omg, it works! |
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| 22:08.16 | Fubuki | I'll just see where it goes from here |
| 22:08.18 | toymachine | 26.10 is so borked |
| 22:08.20 | Fubuki | Thanks anyways. |
| 22:08.21 | Phated | resiak: Close enough, I guess. |
| 22:08.23 | asuffield | resiak: usually because you don't particularly want the security disaster that is xfree86 available to everybody |
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| 22:08.25 | toymachine | it doesn't like it when i enable SMP for my p4 with HT |
| 22:08.28 | jetscreamer | 2.6.10 rox, here |
| 22:08.35 | zappy | Fubuki: apt-get install entranced ;)) |
| 22:08.36 | cafuego | toymachine: No, you got that all wrong. |
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| 22:08.41 | abrotman | Fubuki: try the GDM way |
| 22:08.46 | abrotman | !tell root_ about root |
| 22:08.51 | resiak | asuffield: Ah, figures. |
| 22:08.52 | Fubuki | Ill try it later starting to get busy at work |
| 22:08.53 | cafuego | HT isn't SMP. it's HT. |
| 22:08.54 | x1bncwn | ok, so dpkg-reconfigure console-tools seems to have solved my problem, some how or another |
| 22:09.07 | x1bncwn | now i was wondering, if someone could explain to me just what that did? |
| 22:09.09 | jetscreamer | cafuego, it used to be "enable smp for ht" |
| 22:09.12 | toymachine | cafuego well you have to enable SMP to get to HT |
| 22:09.34 | abrotman | because people can't spell |
| 22:09.50 | cafuego | toymachine: Is CONFIG_LOBOTOMY enabled? |
| 22:09.53 | abrotman | and if i'm not mistaken . he got about 3 ways to do that |
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| 22:10.10 | toymachine | no |
| 22:10.16 | hitu | i keep gettin : checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (library qt-mt) not found. |
| 22:10.18 | jetscreamer | x1bncwn, it did something like set the console keymap to us |
| 22:10.20 | toymachine | but CONFIG_ILOVEBOOBS is |
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| 22:10.24 | hitu | even though i have QT installed |
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| 22:10.35 | abrotman | asuffield: ewww ... |
| 22:10.42 | resiak | hitu: You don't have the appropriate -dev package installed. |
| 22:10.47 | mozart | hi |
| 22:10.47 | abrotman | !find qt-mt |
| 22:10.48 | jetscreamer | hitu, qt-dev or whatever? |
| 22:10.53 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'qt-mt' (2 shown): (/usr/share/qt3/lib/{libqt-mt.prl|libqt-mt.so}, /usr/lib/{libqt-mt.la|libqt-mt.prl|libqt-mt.so}) in libdevel/libqt3-mt-dev ;; (/usr/share/qt3/lib/{libqt-mt.so.3|libqt-mt.so.3.3}, /usr/lib/{libqt-mt.so.3|libqt-mt.so.3.3|libqt-mt.so.3.3.3}) in libs/libqt3c102-mt. |
| 22:11.02 | abrotman | libqt3-mt-dev |
| 22:11.04 | sanmarcos | !depends evolution |
| 22:11.05 | abrotman | there's a good guess |
| 22:11.07 | dpkg | evolution: depends on gtkhtml3.2 (>= 3.2.1), libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.7.2), libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.8.0), libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.5.4), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libcompfaceg1, libdb4.2, libebook8 (>= 1.0.3), libecal6 (>= 1.0.3), libedataserver3 (>= 1.0.3), libegroupwise6 (>= 1.0.3), libesd0 (>= 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.29-1), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.2.1), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgail-common (>= 1.6.6), libgail17 (>= 1. |
| 22:11.07 | dpkg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.10 | dpkg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.16 | SquareRt | how do you determine the max ram a laptop supports? my somewhat ancient laptop (running debian, hence the tenuous link) has 2 lots, with one 64MB 133Mhz SODIMM in at the moment |
| 22:11.17 | jetscreamer | !lart sanmarcos |
| 22:11.17 | Piru | eeeeh. flood |
| 22:11.24 | streuner_ | sanmarcos: use /msg dpkg , damnit |
| 22:11.24 | cafuego | !spambot |
| 22:11.25 | abrotman | maybe that should just return "everything" |
| 22:11.27 | asuffield | sanmarcos: don't do that, you prick |
| 22:11.28 | sanmarcos | haha |
| 22:11.31 | resiak | !botabuse |
| 22:11.31 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 22:11.32 | hitu | :o thanks |
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| 22:11.54 | SquareRt | one website says the maximum is 320Mb but it seems a spot odd |
| 22:12.11 | hitu | root@kinky:/home/hitu # locate libqt-mt.prl |
| 22:12.11 | hitu | /usr/share/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.prl |
| 22:12.11 | hitu | /usr/lib/libqt-mt.prl |
| 22:12.19 | asuffield | SquareRt: ask the motherboard manufacturer. it's a pure hardware issue |
| 22:12.21 | hitu | i have em |
| 22:12.21 | Phated | Heh, root@kinky. |
| 22:12.29 | hitu | hehe |
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| 22:12.35 | jetscreamer | SquareRt, i always go to the manuf. site and check, if possible |
| 22:12.51 | jetscreamer | or what asuffield said |
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| 22:13.08 | SquareRt | jetscreamer: I checked packard bell's site, but there's as much use as a chocolate teapot |
| 22:13.09 | hitu | http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=31098 |
| 22:13.18 | SquareRt | jetscreamer: but they're* |
| 22:13.18 | asuffield | SquareRt: you're probably screwed then |
| 22:13.23 | SquareRt | asuffield: why's that? |
| 22:13.25 | hitu | which pakage am i missing.. |
| 22:13.31 | asuffield | SquareRt: nobody else is likely to know |
| 22:13.32 | jetscreamer | SquareRt, is this the euro pb site? |
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| 22:13.52 | SquareRt | jetscreamer: the euro pb site is dead atm (the co.uk one) but support site is up |
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| 22:14.10 | SquareRt | but it contains ~0 useful information |
| 22:14.18 | jetscreamer | well g'luck then SquareRt , i shot my wad |
| 22:14.22 | p30n | what is the command to mount an NFTS usb external storage as world read writable ? |
| 22:14.27 | Obilan | i want to start xmms in testing and all i get is this: zsh: segmentation fault xmms |
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| 22:14.36 | jetscreamer | !ro-ntfs |
| 22:14.36 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,users,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 22:14.42 | jetscreamer | !rw-vfat |
| 22:14.42 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 vfat rw,users,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0222,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 22:14.46 | SquareRt | jetscreamer: I'm thinking, if I can get a 256 (or 2?) cheaply, is it worth a try? lol |
| 22:14.47 | cafuego | To be fair, you *did* buy Packard-Bell. |
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| 22:14.56 | SquareRt | cafuego: no, my dad bought a packard bell |
| 22:15.00 | abrotman | someone bought one? |
| 22:15.01 | abrotman | wtfg |
| 22:15.06 | cafuego | SquareRt: Got a baseball bat handy? |
| 22:15.08 | jetscreamer | pb uses intel mb's iirc, or did some |
| 22:15.10 | SquareRt | cafuego: and when he decided it was a piece of shit after a few years gave it to me |
| 22:15.11 | resiak | p30n: You don't write to NTFS. |
| 22:15.24 | SquareRt | cafuego: he said he was ready to kick it round the car park then reverse over it, so I'd better have it |
| 22:15.28 | SquareRt | lo |
| 22:15.28 | SquareRt | lol* |
| 22:15.40 | cafuego | SquareRt: I just don't think it's worth it <heh> |
| 22:15.49 | p30n | resiak: why not? i want it to be a part of my /site/ that is on primary hdd |
| 22:15.56 | jetscreamer | google the fcc # on the mb SquareRt |
| 22:15.59 | SquareRt | cafuego: worth the memory? |
| 22:15.59 | resiak | !ntfsrw |
| 22:15.59 | dpkg | methinks ntfsrw is dream on! |
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| 22:16.13 | cafuego | SquareRt: What cpu does it have? |
| 22:16.20 | jetscreamer | man ntfsfix |
| 22:16.21 | resiak | p30n: Because it's nasty and patented and closed and the current state of the NTFS drivers will almost certainly trash your partition if you write to it using them. |
| 22:16.23 | Baard | Any way to specify that the e100 driver binds to eth0 and ipw2100 driver binds to eth1? I load modules with /etc/modules and hotplug |
| 22:16.26 | paulswm | cafuego: hey, that's better than my old laptop |
| 22:16.38 | resiak | p30n: If you insist, Google for CaptiveNTFS. Otherwise, just use VFAT. |
| 22:16.48 | jetscreamer | it's better to have a vfat dmz than write to nfs directly from linux |
| 22:16.51 | SquareRt | I just thought if I can get 1 or 2 SODIMMs of 256MB capacity, for what is, in dollars, roughly 10 or 20 bucks it is a fair gamble |
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| 22:17.03 | p30n | resiak: ok and how do i use vfat? can i do that on ntfs? |
| 22:17.14 | resiak | p30n: No, VFAT is a different filesystem. |
| 22:17.15 | cafuego | SquareRt: Hmmyeah, even 512's are cheep these days. |
| 22:17.17 | SquareRt | cafuego: erm, well, I could have sworn it used to be 333, but after moving the ram between the sockets it's now decided it's a 466Mhz Celeron... I'm confused lol |
| 22:17.20 | jetscreamer | vfat == fat32 for all intents and purposes |
| 22:17.36 | asuffield | vfat and fat32 are independent things |
| 22:17.38 | abrotman | SquareRt: sounds like a POS |
| 22:17.53 | jetscreamer | but it's still the same thing when you use it |
| 22:18.05 | SquareRt | abrotman: my dad had to have it replaced once iirc, I wonder if they sent him a 466 and just clocked it down to the original speed his was? |
| 22:18.06 | asuffield | no it isn't. both linux and windows treat them as independent |
| 22:18.13 | p30n | so i want to mount it in my /site/ and i want it as an archive so that people can see and maybe copy what i have on the usb disk, im using glftpd... |
| 22:18.13 | moshii | vfat works for fat12,16 and 32 doesn't it? ^^ |
| 22:18.22 | asuffield | a fat filesystem is one of {fat12,fat16,fat32} and also one of {msdos,vfat,umsdos} |
| 22:18.30 | asuffield | any combination of these is possible |
| 22:18.31 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 22:18.33 | abrotman | SquareRt: those PB computers have horribly messed up internals .. they worked fine as long as you never tried to do anything interesting |
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| 22:18.40 | asuffield | moshii: *all* the drivers work for all the widths |
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| 22:18.48 | SquareRt | abrotman: heh |
| 22:18.58 | SquareRt | abrotman: I gather that their desktops are notoriously shite too |
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| 22:19.21 | abrotman | SquareRt: oh my god .. you have no idea .. i tried to add a NIC to one once .. what a fucking nightmare |
| 22:19.41 | jsolares | if I want to install apache with php and mysql support, can i use apt-get install apache, apt-get install php, apt-get install mysql, and will they be installed to interact with each other? |
| 22:19.48 | jetscreamer | windows seems to prefer vfat |
| 22:19.49 | cafuego | abrotman: I think they save on manufacturing costs by adding fewer IRQs than normal hardware ;-) |
| 22:19.54 | jetscreamer | vs msdos |
| 22:19.55 | SquareRt | abrotman: I gather that the pb easy note is really an NEC Versa VX/VXi |
| 22:20.00 | SquareRt | (at least, this model is) |
| 22:20.15 | jetscreamer | when it comes to "just works" |
| 22:20.17 | abrotman | cafuego: entirely possible .. i have one here that X is unusable because it fucked up the CirrusLogic chipset somehow |
| 22:20.17 | cafuego | jsolares: No. You want libapache-mod-php4 and php4-mysql |
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| 22:20.19 | p30n | so how do i mount it then? |
| 22:20.21 | asuffield | windows 4 is configurable, albeit not easily. I'm not sure if NT can do msdos |
| 22:20.25 | abrotman | cafuego: well . it makes a term .. that's about it |
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| 22:20.33 | jetscreamer | !rw-vfat |
| 22:20.33 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 vfat rw,users,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0222,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 22:20.38 | p30n | mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/point wont do it |
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| 22:20.41 | abrotman | SquareRt: i know .. the desktops were worse |
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| 22:20.46 | jsolares | cafuego: so what would be the order? |
| 22:20.46 | abrotman | !vfatrw |
| 22:20.46 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id" |
| 22:20.57 | p30n | VFS: cant find a valid FAT filesystem on dev |
| 22:20.58 | cafuego | jsolares: Any order, just list 'em all. |
| 22:20.59 | jetscreamer | mine's better |
| 22:21.03 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 22:21.05 | jsolares | ahh, ok |
| 22:21.07 | resiak | p30n: That's because you have to reformat it. |
| 22:21.21 | p30n | resiak why? |
| 22:21.25 | cafuego | jsolares: In theory mysql-server, libapache-mod-php4 and php4-mysql alone should pull in the rest. |
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| 22:21.31 | abrotman | cafuego: they honestly were the worst computers ever made |
| 22:21.35 | dobby_ | where can i find information on howto install debian on a ibook G3?? I googled around but did not find anything! |
| 22:21.37 | jsolares | cafuego: great |
| 22:21.38 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 22:21.39 | dpkg | hmm... ppc is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc |
| 22:21.41 | jetscreamer | mount it as ntfs or whatever you formatted it as silly |
| 22:21.42 | resiak | p30n: Because they're different on-disk representations of the files. |
| 22:21.48 | resiak | jetscreamer: But he wants rw. |
| 22:21.56 | Phated | Er, you wouldn't actually be trying to mount "dev", would you? |
| 22:22.00 | resiak | jetscreamer: Which is why I said he'd have to use vfat or something similar. |
| 22:22.05 | p30n | resiak i need to FORMAT the usb hdd? |
| 22:22.08 | jetscreamer | Phated, you caught that eh |
| 22:22.09 | Phated | Because that error message usually looks different. |
| 22:22.14 | cafuego | dobby_: Download the PPC netinst iso, burn to disc, insert disc, boot off disc with 'c' key. Install. |
| 22:22.21 | svente | Hi folks, I asked it a few hours ago and only heard a:Works here. My k3b doesn't start up correctly. Means, I can't do any mouse or keyboard actions. |
| 22:22.35 | Phated | p30n: mkfs.vfat or somesuch. Back up all data. |
| 22:22.38 | jsolares | cafuego: apt-get install php tells me that cant find the package |
| 22:22.41 | dobby_ | cafuego: is it easy to install like a normal pc? |
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| 22:22.46 | Phated | jetscreamer: What can I say, I'm a pedant. |
| 22:22.49 | zappy | jsolares: php4 |
| 22:23.05 | moshii | jsolares: apt-cache search php & find which php package you want to install |
| 22:23.07 | jsolares | zappy: ando with mysql? |
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| 22:23.14 | jsolares | ok |
| 22:23.19 | cafuego | jsolares: mysql-server and php4-mysql |
| 22:23.25 | zappy | yep |
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| 22:23.36 | p30n | Phated i dont have room to backup everything now, why do i have to do this format= |
| 22:23.37 | asuffield | it's not 'formatting', it's 'creating a filesystem'. they are very different operations. windows happens to use the same program to do both |
| 22:23.44 | zappy | jsolares: you should use apt-cache search keywords |
| 22:23.52 | jsolares | ok |
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| 22:24.20 | jetscreamer | apt-get remove --purge k3b && apt-get install k3b && k3bsetup |
| 22:24.27 | Phated | p30n: Because... You don't have a regular filesystem on the thing? And what asuffield said, and beyond that, can you type the -exact- mount command you're trying to use? It could be a syntax error for all we know. |
| 22:25.27 | svente | Does someone know the problem, that k3b doesn't accept mouse-actions? |
| 22:25.30 | jsolares | cafuego: how can I add more resources to my search |
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| 22:25.31 | p30n | Phated: i have a ntfs disk and i tried to mount it with mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb_hdd/ |
| 22:25.49 | jsolares | cafuego: it tells me that it was unable to fetch some archives |
| 22:25.53 | cafuego | jsolares: eh? Any one mirror has all packages, there's not much point adding more. |
| 22:25.53 | asuffield | you can't mount an ntfs filesystem with the vfat driver. duh. |
| 22:25.54 | jetscreamer | p30n, that's goofy |
| 22:26.06 | cafuego | jsolares: Ah, run 'apt-get update' first. |
| 22:26.06 | p30n | ??? |
| 22:26.10 | toymachine | hahahah i love debian |
| 22:26.12 | toymachine | i just wanna say that |
| 22:26.16 | jetscreamer | ntfs!=vfat dude |
| 22:26.27 | Phated | p30n: Yes, see, that's the problem. Syntax error. |
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| 22:26.37 | svente | toymachine, at the moment I find it rather strane |
| 22:26.41 | svente | strange |
| 22:26.41 | Phated | <sigh> And we nearly made him create a new fs? |
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| 22:26.52 | jetscreamer | he wants to write |
| 22:26.54 | p30n | it should be ntfs instead of vfat? |
| 22:26.54 | moshii | svente: weird shit like that can happen because your qt/kde libs are corrupted |
| 22:26.56 | cafuego | Phated: would have served him right |
| 22:26.56 | jetscreamer | let heim |
| 22:27.07 | asuffield | hell with all that, it would have been *fun* |
| 22:27.10 | jetscreamer | p30n, yes but ppl told you don't write to ntfs from linux eh |
| 22:27.10 | Phated | p30n: See, when you want to mount an ntfs thing, you can't exactly use "type" to mount as "vfat", can you. |
| 22:27.23 | jsolares | cafuego: did it, some index files failed to download, thery have been ignored, or old ones used instead |
| 22:27.31 | Phated | p30n: And no, ftlog, backup and make a vfat system. |
| 22:27.33 | asuffield | Phated: am I going to have to nail a '?' to you? |
| 22:27.33 | jsolares | cafuego: and still can install php4 |
| 22:27.36 | svente | Okay, it's debian-amd64, but usually dpkg should check for those things |
| 22:27.36 | jetscreamer | rerun apt-get update |
| 22:27.36 | baver|lappy | I've got a fresh install of debian sarge on this computer, but whenever the mouse pointer is suppose to be a "hand", I get a big white square. Anyone know what's up? This always happens to me whenever I put debian on a computer. |
| 22:27.44 | cafuego | jsolares: Ok, one of the mirrors is broken. run 'apt-setup' |
| 22:27.44 | Phated | asuffield: :D ? |
| 22:27.52 | resiak | Phated: The thing is that I was telling him that he couldn't mount ntfs rw, and that if he wanted a rw partition that would work on Win, it would need to be vfat... |
| 22:28.04 | jetscreamer | actually you can mount it rw |
| 22:28.07 | cafuego | svente: Mine accepts mouse actions just fine. drag_drop too. |
| 22:28.08 | asuffield | bloody foreigners |
| 22:28.11 | resiak | jetscreamer: For some values of "can". |
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| 22:28.15 | cafuego | !lart asuffield |
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| 22:28.28 | jetscreamer | it's a pain in the butt though |
| 22:28.28 | svente | cafuego, today's install? |
| 22:28.32 | p30n | and i have to format if making a vfat filesystem? |
| 22:28.35 | jsolares | cafuego: what option? http? |
| 22:28.36 | cafuego | !magic asuffield |
| 22:28.36 | Phated | jetscreamer: While losing most data when you actually write to it, though. |
| 22:28.36 | cureless | asuffield: by foreigners do you mean non debian users? |
| 22:28.40 | jetscreamer | and if you don't run ntfsfix you screwed |
| 22:28.46 | x1bncwn | how do i go about adding patches to like a debian package, can i download a source package and edit a script or something?, is there a doc perhaps? heh |
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| 22:28.54 | cafuego | jsolares: Yeah, http or ftp.. whicever you prefer. |
| 22:28.55 | resiak | p30n: If you were to want a vfat filesystem, you'd erase the entire disk. |
| 22:28.58 | jetscreamer | if i wanna write to ntfs, i use windoes |
| 22:28.59 | svente | cafuego, and that's what I heard 10 hours ago, too |
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| 22:29.08 | jsolares | cafuego: what information do i have to put manually? |
| 22:29.08 | cureless | x1bncwn: yes. |
| 22:29.18 | cafuego | svente: Not on today's update, no. |
| 22:29.28 | cafuego | jsolares: Nothing, it should do it all for you. |
| 22:29.36 | cafuego | jsolares: Just pick one or two mirrors near you. |
| 22:30.08 | svente | cafuego, can you put your kde/qt libs and k3b somewhere to download? |
| 22:30.19 | svente | just for a manual install |
| 22:30.25 | Coax | i can't remove libapache-mod-dav: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache-mod-dav.prerm: /usr/sbin/apacheconfig: No such file or directory |
| 22:30.26 | asuffield | cureless: no, I mean bloody chinese people who haven't grasped the appropriate use of punctuation |
| 22:30.39 | cafuego | svente: I can, but they *will* break your system, so I won't. |
| 22:30.49 | svente | Why that? |
| 22:30.56 | cafuego | Coax: Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache-mod-dav.prerm and comment out that line. |
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| 22:31.07 | svente | I mean, it's only 2 hours old, so I don't care |
| 22:31.09 | cafuego | svente: They're not technically debian debs. |
| 22:31.14 | cureless | asuffield: don't blame foreigners, blame people who can't speak english in an english setting. |
| 22:31.24 | svente | so you compiled k3b yourself? |
| 22:31.33 | svente | e.g. with checkinstall? |
| 22:31.35 | cafuego | svente: I'm running a half mix of Debian AMD64 and Ubuntu AMD64 on this box at the moment. |
| 22:32.06 | svente | Sory, what is ubuntu |
| 22:32.12 | cafuego | asuffield: Precies, daar ben ik het helemaal mee eens. |
| 22:32.13 | drp | !ubuntu |
| 22:32.13 | dpkg | i heard ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu |
| 22:32.25 | Phated | asuffield: Oi! |
| 22:32.27 | Phated | :P |
| 22:32.36 | cafuego | svente: A debian fork, with *woo* decent amd64 support ;-) |
| 22:32.53 | asuffield | cafuego: I am going to rip off your legs and gnaw on your bones |
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| 22:33.05 | cafuego | asuffield: Nee, ik ben namelijk vegetarier. |
| 22:33.05 | svente | what does *woo* mean, sorry, maybe an faq |
| 22:33.41 | JRWR | What Player is good for playing wmv/wma |
| 22:33.43 | Phated | No doubt some odd tribal tradition, eh? |
| 22:33.46 | cafuego | JRWR: mplayer |
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| 22:33.55 | JRWR | any thing else |
| 22:33.56 | svente | male or female - wanna say, will I enjoy it or won't I |
| 22:33.56 | cafuego | Phated: Uh, ye-es. |
| 22:34.05 | cafuego | svente: yes |
| 22:34.13 | Phated | cafuego: Heh. |
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| 22:34.55 | svente | So, I will get myself the dev-Files needed to compile k3b and give it a compilation try tomorrow |
| 22:34.56 | cureless | svente: you won't enjoy it since you'll be in the center of the fire. |
| 22:35.10 | Raf256 | hi, how can I stop 1) xdm/etc from starting up, I want to start in plain text login console 2) stop MTA from lookup of host with results in 60 seconds delay at computer startup |
| 22:35.11 | moshii | JRWR: Xine,Mplayer and avifile will play wmv but you need to get the win32 codecs |
| 22:35.27 | bonez39 | I need to get php 4.2.x or higher working on my debian system..which has until now run woody.....apt-get upgrade or install won't move version beyond 4.1.2...how can I get it up to 4.2.x? |
| 22:35.30 | svente | Hey, no problem, cause otherwise I wouldn't set up an amd64-port, or? |
| 22:35.33 | moshii | JRWR: I hear VLC has native wmv support as well now |
| 22:35.33 | equnix | cafuego, hi again |
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| 22:35.49 | cafuego | JRWR: Youa sked, you got an answer. Was that somehow not what you wanted? |
| 22:35.57 | equnix | cafuego, it didnt quite work... i still cant share my connection |
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| 22:36.09 | JRWR | no it was |
| 22:36.17 | JRWR | just messing with the room |
| 22:36.21 | cafuego | equnix: You need to tell all client computers that the sharing machine is their gateway. |
| 22:36.41 | equnix | cafuego, it didnt quite work... i still cant share my connection. was it only the "net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" that should be in the sysctl file? |
| 22:36.43 | JRWR | now ive got to wait 4 hours for mplayer to download |
| 22:36.55 | cthulfuego | equnix: Yep. |
| 22:37.14 | equnix | cthulfuego, how do i tell it that? |
| 22:37.18 | cthulfuego | JRWR: You're aware you need to fetch the debs from a non-debian repository? |
| 22:37.31 | cthulfuego | equnix: Windows boxes? |
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| 22:37.41 | equnix | cthulfuego, partly |
| 22:37.44 | azreal | bfhdAS |
| 22:38.05 | baver|lappy | I'm currently running sarge, but want to upgrade to sid for various reasons ... what's the easiest way to do this? |
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| 22:38.11 | equnix | cthulfuego, does it matter what OS he runS? |
| 22:38.19 | cthulfuego | equnix: Change the network connection properties and set the IP/netmask/gateway (and possibly DNS) |
| 22:38.23 | pipeline | baver|lappy: Change the sources.list, then do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 22:38.27 | KungFu | hi, can I test whether a script runs as sux? |
| 22:38.30 | cureless | baver|lappy: by a computer with sid installed. |
| 22:38.33 | cureless | s/by/buy/ |
| 22:38.34 | pipeline | baver|lappy: Upgrading is easy as pie. It's downgrading that's impossibly difficult. |
| 22:38.39 | toymachine | howcome my javaplugin doesn't support the x-java-vm mimetype |
| 22:38.39 | cthulfuego | equnix: For how to change the settings, yes. For functionality, no. |
| 22:38.41 | toymachine | anone know? |
| 22:38.42 | equnix | cthulfuego, set how/to what? |
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| 22:39.09 | pipeline | toymachine: You probably installed a binary package that has a plugin compiled with the wrong version of gcc. |
| 22:39.09 | cthulfuego | equnix: Exactly! That depends on the IP addresses and netmask you've chosen for your lan. |
| 22:39.18 | baver|lappy | pipeline: when I did that previously though, some of the libraries didn't upgrade and when I tried to install the -dev packages, I had alot of problem (had to manually remove them and reinstall) |
| 22:39.28 | toymachine | pipeline, but it supports other stuff |
| 22:39.31 | toymachine | lol just not x-java-vm |
| 22:39.35 | pipeline | baver|lappy: Do dist-upgrade first, then upgrade later. |
| 22:39.52 | baver|lappy | pipeline: so, apt-get dist-upgrade, then apt-get upgrade? |
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| 22:39.59 | jinro | What should the mkisofs options be for making a sparc 3.0r4 iso? or where can I find the documentation for it? |
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| 22:40.06 | equnix | cthulfuego, and how do i know what ive set? |
| 22:40.10 | pipeline | baver|lappy: Yes. dist-upgrade just avoids breaking things during a major upgrade across versions of debian |
| 22:40.13 | cthulfuego | pipeline: downgrading is dead easy. |
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| 22:40.18 | JRWR | ALSO can i get some help getting AOL (ya thats rigth its the only thing my mom will buy for me) working on my 56k PCMCIA card |
| 22:40.22 | cthulfuego | equnix: 'ifconfig' should show you. |
| 22:40.26 | pipeline | cthulfuego: you have the dead part right. |
| 22:40.33 | pipeline | JRWR: You're fucked :) |
| 22:40.39 | toymachine | so what do i do |
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| 22:40.39 | juan | !! |
| 22:40.39 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 22:40.58 | baver|lappy | pipeline: thanks :) |
| 22:40.59 | cthulfuego | pipeline: Leave box alone for 2 years, come back, change sources.list, run update/upgrade, done. |
| 22:41.01 | OleMoudi | what's exactly the diference between upgrade and dist-upgrade in a nutshell? |
| 22:41.09 | moshii | JRWR: there is a native AOL client.. but it's pretty hard to get it working |
| 22:41.13 | cthulfuego | pipeline: it takes *time* but it's not *hard* |
| 22:41.15 | sussudio | !nutsmite OleMoudi |
| 22:41.57 | OleMoudi | that hurt |
| 22:41.58 | pipeline | OleMoudi: You use dist-upgrade when you're moving between distributions. |
| 22:42.26 | equnix | cthulfuego, where should he set what information? my information from my eth1, the netcards, information? |
| 22:42.32 | OleMoudi | so I usually must upgrade rather than dist-upgrade? |
| 22:42.34 | jinro | Anyone know the MKISOFS options for making a sparc debian 3.0r4 ISO? |
| 22:42.39 | jinro | or where I can get docs for it? |
| 22:42.54 | zpn | cafuego::that worked, thanx |
| 22:43.15 | moshii | jinro: do a search at debian.org |
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| 22:44.06 | jinro | moshii: I have ... many of them, can't find it |
| 22:44.07 | pipeline | jinro: Why don't you just boot the sparc over the net? |
| 22:44.21 | moshii | jinro: using a miniroot or booting from tftp/nfs a doing a netinstall is the best way to do it though |
| 22:44.40 | equnix | cthulfuego, did you die? |
| 22:44.49 | equnix | cthulfuego, *worried* :D |
| 22:44.57 | jinro | moshii: i have a custom kernel I put into the iso, and now I want to remake the iso |
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| 22:45.15 | jinro | I put into the iso, and now I want to remake the iso |
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| 22:45.40 | x1bncwn | im doing apt-get source iptables, and it keeps getting the source for 1.2.9, but when i do apt-get install iptables, it installs 1.2.11, how do i get the 1.2.11 source package? |
| 22:45.46 | g3zhengy | is nvidia-kernel-source now available? |
| 22:45.54 | g3zhengy | I've been waiting for it to be available again |
| 22:45.54 | d3s | how can I copy my ntfs partition to my new hd? |
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| 22:46.28 | lewinsky | d3s: mount the ntfs partition and copy all |
| 22:46.33 | R4Ndom | What's the best java virtual machine for running limewire? |
| 22:46.36 | moshii | jinro: |
| 22:46.42 | moshii | jinro: |
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| 22:46.46 | moshii | damn |
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| 22:46.55 | JRWR | so |
| 22:47.00 | g3zhengy | nvidia-kernel-source has been removed out of sarge |
| 22:47.01 | JRWR | what do i do 1st |
| 22:47.03 | moshii | jinro: http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/bootcd.html#sun3image |
| 22:47.07 | g3zhengy | anyone has any clue about it? |
| 22:47.14 | JRWR | to get this thing online |
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| 22:47.31 | moshii | jinro: that's for netBSD (the best option for sparc's ^^) but you might find it useful |
| 22:47.32 | flowed | hi |
| 22:47.39 | flowed | can anyone help me with nickserv? |
| 22:47.45 | jinro | moshii: appreciate it |
| 22:47.53 | d3s | lewinsky: been there done that. it's only read/only.. i'm using knoppix and sarge |
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| 22:48.10 | vulture | d3s: two separate installations? |
| 22:48.13 | flowed | dont know my password or done any bad |
| 22:48.36 | jcb | how can i match a line using regexp that either begin with FW or CONN? |
| 22:48.38 | Zero_Dogg | Someone kick COLLECTOR |
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| 22:48.48 | vulture | jcb: ^(FW|CONN) |
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| 22:48.49 | lewinsky | d3s: you can only have the ntfs partition read only... |
| 22:48.49 | vulture | easy enough.. |
| 22:48.49 | COLLECTOR | ?? |
| 22:48.52 | JRWR | !fun |
| 22:48.52 | dpkg | !find apt |
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| 22:48.59 | COLLECTOR | ?? |
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| 22:49.07 | d3s | vulture: i was using knoppix when i had nothing on my new hd. now i'm finish with copying my sarge.. ntfs is next |
| 22:49.08 | Zero_Dogg | thanks |
| 22:49.11 | JRWR | lol |
| 22:49.13 | lewinsky | d3s: write support doesn't work yet |
| 22:49.21 | d3s | lewinsky: yup |
| 22:49.22 | R4Ndom | What's the best java virtual machine for running limewire? |
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| 22:49.31 | JRWR | so how do i set up my PCMCIA 56k modem (3com) |
| 22:49.31 | d3s | i'm hearing about captive ntfs |
| 22:49.40 | vulture | R4Ndom: Sun's, now run along. |
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| 22:49.56 | moshii | JRWR: plug it in and see what dmesg spits out |
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| 22:50.09 | JRWR | whats dmesg |
| 22:50.21 | jcb | vulture: its not ^[FW|CONN] ? |
| 22:50.22 | moshii | JRWR: type it and see ;) |
| 22:50.39 | vulture | jcb: no.. [] is for classes |
| 22:50.46 | flowed | nobody knows how to get my password back? |
| 22:50.47 | vulture | as in "match one of any of these characters" |
| 22:50.51 | jcb | vulture: ok |
| 22:51.07 | vulture | jcb: there's probably a basic regex howto you should read somewhere.. |
| 22:51.07 | lewinsky | d3s: reading homepage about toppic now |
| 22:51.11 | JRWR | and what am i looking for |
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| 22:51.51 | irvined | hello, is there a way to test the files on disc against a checksum from the debian packages? |
| 22:51.52 | moshii | JRWR: you should see the card detected, maybe its model, maybe if a driver was loaded |
| 22:52.05 | g3zhengy | mbot: nvidia-kernel-source |
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| 22:52.39 | d3s | lewinsky: fyi, i tried norton ghost.. the upgrade partition won't boot up |
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| 22:52.52 | JRWR | i dont see anything related to a PCMCIA card |
| 22:52.54 | netsurfer | damn one of the uk mirrors has slowed to a crawl tonight |
| 22:53.11 | d3s | I copied it while i was using the xp partition (dooh) |
| 22:53.30 | moshii | JRWR: you need pcmcia-cs installed.. |
| 22:54.29 | Deep7 | can anyone suggest how to rectify a huge IO-Wait in top |
| 22:54.31 | Deep7 | ie 80% |
| 22:54.38 | JRWR | will Kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18 work |
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| 22:55.09 | moshii | JRWR: if uname -r agrees that your kernel is 2.4.18 |
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| 22:55.23 | JRWR | ya |
| 22:55.30 | Cowman | hello room |
| 22:56.13 | Cowman | anyone in here played with the amd64 port? |
| 22:56.15 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: room? |
| 22:56.16 | ravenbird | CHANNEL! |
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| 22:56.25 | Cowman | my apologies :P |
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| 22:56.47 | JRWR | will i have to restart after this? |
| 22:57.07 | josh_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.27 | moshii | JRWR: you need to load a pcmcia module for your system, you shouldn't need to reset |
| 22:57.39 | JRWR | and how would i do that |
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| 22:58.10 | josh_ | * |
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| 22:58.39 | Cowman | anyway I'm trying to install the amd64 port(yeah I know it's unoffical) I pointed my apt sources list to the alioth server but it seems like there should be more packages available. at least something to install xfree86 I'd think |
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| 22:59.28 | thefly | hello |
| 22:59.28 | JRWR | so how do i load the mods for PCMCIA |
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| 22:59.37 | thefly | does anybody know if there's a debian package for libh ? |
| 22:59.43 | moshii | JRWR: lspci should show what type of pcmcia/cardbus bridge is in your machine, google around to find out which module drives it, insmod it :D |
| 23:00.00 | JRWR | whats insmod? |
| 23:00.08 | moshii | JRWR: insert module |
| 23:00.15 | moshii | JRWR: man insmod |
| 23:00.24 | netsurfer | anyone able to tell me whats wrong with make-dkpg here http://pastebin.ca/5426 |
| 23:00.37 | netsurfer | kpkg * |
| 23:00.45 | JRWR | Texas Instruments PCI1211 |
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| 23:02.39 | moshii | JRWR: Life is a lot simpler if you're running Sarge.. discover/hotplug will get your pcmcia working automagically ^^ |
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| 23:02.58 | rob | anyone know whether color-theme.el has made it into any packages in sid yet (emacs-goodies-el)? |
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| 23:03.15 | Cowman | so I'm the only renegade trying to test the amd64 port? |
| 23:03.16 | JRWR | im on woody |
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| 23:03.28 | JRWR | any way ive found the stuff i need for it any way |
| 23:03.41 | Ryushin | Anyway to not get apt-get to replace files that were changed from the original. I'm not talking about the config files. I.e. I've change squirrelmails home page and replaced the graphic, but upgrading squirrelmail replaced the files I changed. |
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| 23:04.01 | martin_ | anyone know if debian has an mplayer package? cant find it anywhere |
| 23:04.08 | caphuso | martin_: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 23:04.25 | JRWR | it does |
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| 23:04.30 | Cowman | I think it has one... |
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| 23:04.37 | JRWR | but unsupported |
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| 23:04.50 | martin_ | apt-get didnt find it |
| 23:04.53 | Cowman | I found Xine was a better player and I got it through apt |
| 23:05.06 | JRWR | every one that had windows and installed debian goto here to get a refund! http://www.windowsrefund.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=19&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 23:05.06 | Cowman | try apt-cache search mplayer |
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| 23:05.38 | moshii | martin_: /msg dpkg marillat -- Mplayer, win32 codecs, dvd ripping tools etc |
| 23:05.42 | jugglinx | i like xine |
| 23:05.52 | martin_ | im using knoppix on hdd so xine was included, knoppix even found my wireless card and configured it by itself. cant complain |
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| 23:07.02 | omgs | Hi |
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| 23:07.15 | omgs | I've installed last sarge snapshot |
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| 23:08.05 | omgs | But I have one problem: I set an array with RAID 1 with the setup tool, and I'd like just to run that setup tool again to make some changes |
| 23:08.07 | hitu | okay |
| 23:08.16 | hitu | i m still gettin that QT error |
| 23:08.18 | GauntletWizard | is the Realtek 8201BL network card supported by default, and if is it is how would I install it? |
| 23:08.27 | hitu | i installed libqt-mt-dev |
| 23:08.32 | omgs | How can I call that tool again from an installation? |
| 23:08.41 | hitu | but i still get : checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! |
| 23:08.48 | pipeline | GauntletWizard: Turn off the system. Put in the card. Turn it back on. |
| 23:08.51 | hitu | root@kinky:/home/hitu # dpkg -l | grep qt |
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| 23:08.54 | hitu | ii libqt-dev 2.3.1-22 Qt GUI development headers |
| 23:08.54 | hitu | ii libqt-mt-dev 2.3.1-22 Qt GUI development headers (Threaded version |
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| 23:09.09 | pipeline | omgs: The elaborate curses front-end is only available at install-time, and it can only do a few thnigs. |
| 23:09.18 | GauntletWizard | The card is on the motherboard, and it didn't recognise it on install |
| 23:09.30 | pipeline | GauntletWizard: Are you using sarge? |
| 23:09.38 | omgs | pipeline: well, another front end for managing raids? |
| 23:09.46 | GauntletWizard | no, what's that? (I'm really a n00b) |
| 23:09.57 | omgs | I've tried mdadm, but it's a bit confusing |
| 23:10.02 | hitu | bleh think i removed the wrong package |
| 23:10.11 | pipeline | omgs: http://evms.sourceforge.net/ is a pretty nice frontend. It's actually much more complicated and confusing than mdadm, though. |
| 23:10.12 | hitu | qt is damn confusing on debian :S |
| 23:10.21 | Cowman | where can I find help on getting the amd64 port working? |
| 23:10.39 | pipeline | GauntletWizard: Debian has several versions. Woody is the old one. Sarge isn't released yet, but it's effectively the current version. |
| 23:10.44 | directhex | hitu, you're on woody. |
| 23:10.50 | caphuso | Cowman: /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 23:10.58 | GauntletWizard | oh |
| 23:11.02 | directhex | hitu, which has kde 2. you won't have kde 3 headers. |
| 23:11.03 | hitu | directhex: Ubuntu |
| 23:11.12 | GauntletWizard | I'm on woody then, I would think |
| 23:11.14 | directhex | hitu, why are ubuntu questions relevant here#? |
| 23:11.15 | hitu | ( Operating System ) Linux Debian-testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.11-rc3-2005-02-07_hitu, GNU/Linux | XFree86: 4.3.0.1 | Desktop: KDE: 3.3.2 | IRC Client: X-Chat v.2.4.1 |
| 23:11.26 | GauntletWizard | I got the "current" iso yesterday |
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| 23:11.40 | directhex | !tell GauntletWizard about woody hardware support |
| 23:11.59 | pipeline | GauntletWizard: I would get Sarge if I were you. |
| 23:11.59 | hitu | so u mean qt has problem on Ubuntu only ? :) |
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| 23:12.10 | pipeline | hitu: No, we mean we don't give a flying fuck. Talk to #ubuntu. |
| 23:12.17 | netsurfer | Cowman - #debian-amd64 |
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| 23:12.19 | paulswm | !ubuntu |
| 23:12.19 | dpkg | somebody said ubuntu was NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu |
| 23:12.28 | hitu | lol |
| 23:12.29 | directhex | hitu, well, ubuntu doesn't include qt. if you're using their multiverse packages, THEY won't support you, not sure why WE would |
| 23:12.33 | hitu | okay i know |
| 23:12.36 | martin_ | when i try to apt-get mplayer is says "Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package" so its under a different name right, but what |
| 23:12.45 | pipeline | hitu: Install Debian; problem solved. |
| 23:12.47 | directhex | !tell martin_ about marillat |
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| 23:12.52 | caphuso | martin_: apt-cache --names-only search mplayer |
| 23:12.57 | GauntletWizard | Thanks, Directhex |
| 23:13.03 | GauntletWizard | ,pipeline |
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| 23:13.08 | hitu | okay |
| 23:13.08 | GauntletWizard | I'll go do that |
| 23:13.18 | GauntletWizard | and then bug you. :)... |
| 23:13.22 | GauntletWizard | quit |
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| 23:15.58 | toymachine | anyone know where i can get an rpm2tgz package for debian |
| 23:16.14 | ^c | toymachine: use alien |
| 23:16.27 | ^c | toymachine: it'll do the same thing |
| 23:16.32 | toymachine | k |
| 23:16.34 | toymachine | preciate it |
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| 23:19.21 | jugglinx | hi everybody, im running mepis, based on debian and trying to recompile the kernel becvause of the sound card, a cmedia wich is on board, i dont kwon the model really, there is a place where i can check wich card is and also check what driver/module i should install! thx in advance! |
| 23:19.45 | lewinsky_ | lspci |
| 23:19.49 | ^c | !tell jugglinx about mepis |
| 23:20.41 | quittt | do you know a japanese channel in freenode? |
| 23:20.51 | quittt | or a japanese IRC network? |
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| 23:21.03 | ^c | jugglinx: google to find out its driver, I for one don't know sound card drivers off-hand |
| 23:21.04 | jugglinx | lspci doesn t detected... |
| 23:21.10 | sabine | How in the WORLD can I mount /boot/initrd.img so that it isn't read-only??? |
| 23:21.28 | pingouin | quittt: talk japanese ? |
| 23:21.37 | quittt | pingouin, no |
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| 23:21.40 | quittt | but I want learn |
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| 23:21.49 | JRWR | Where can i find drivers for the Texas Instruments PCI1211 PCMCIA |
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| 23:22.18 | jugglinx | tanks ^c and lewinsky! |
| 23:22.25 | moshii | quittt: debian-japanese .. but it's empty |
| 23:22.27 | pingouin | quittt: already set up debian for japanese ? |
| 23:22.40 | moshii | quittt: and it'll be pretty hard to learn japanese just from irc ;) |
| 23:22.41 | quittt | 困難話す日本語をであるか。 |
| 23:22.49 | pingouin | who go what ? |
| 23:22.50 | pingouin | ;) |
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| 23:23.18 | pingouin | not worked 4 me quittt |
| 23:23.36 | pingouin | but i'm in iso_blah15 |
| 23:23.49 | moshii | quittt: you'll have to use the right encoding to irc in Japanese |
| 23:24.38 | pingouin | moshii: success in set up japanese in debian ? |
| 23:24.59 | moshii | pingouin: yup, British, Japanese and Korean |
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| 23:25.17 | pingouin | moshii: you have time ? ;) |
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| 23:25.50 | moshii | pingouin: I actually learning kanji at the moment, but I suppose so ^^ |
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| 23:26.36 | phalanx | hello ppl ...... prolly a very stupid question but as a suse man , how would i get glibc 2.3 installed on a debian system? |
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| 23:27.12 | guest_ | how to install cups source? |
| 23:27.42 | cthulfuego | phalanx: Which debian version are you running and why do you tjhink you need glibc 2.3? |
| 23:28.14 | phalanx | cthulfuego: it's woody and and app i want to run asks for it |
| 23:28.21 | doub | guest_: apt-get source cupsys |
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| 23:28.22 | cthulfuego | phalanx: Which app? |
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| 23:28.31 | phalanx | cthulfuego: dancer |
| 23:28.40 | phalanx | cthulfuego: irc bot |
| 23:28.42 | cthulfuego | phalanx: Why don't you install the woody version? |
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| 23:29.00 | phalanx | cthulfuego: woody version of dancer? |
| 23:29.09 | cthulfuego | !info dancer-ircd woody |
| 23:29.16 | JRWR | Where can i find drivers for the Texas Instruments PCI1211 PCMCIA |
| 23:29.19 | dpkg | dancer-ircd: (An IRC server designed for centrally maintained networks), section net, is extra. Version: 1.0.31+maint8-1 (woody), Packaged size: 173 kB, Installed size: 480 kB |
| 23:29.31 | phalanx | cthulfuego: that's the ircserver , i need the bot |
| 23:29.32 | cthulfuego | phalanx: it would sure beat wrecking your system. |
| 23:29.37 | loocek | hi! how to make to gdm starts with no environment but just an one application e.g. firefox (something like xterm in failsafe mode) ?? |
| 23:29.41 | cthulfuego | phalanx: Does the bot have a debian package? |
| 23:29.48 | phalanx | cthulfuego: nope |
| 23:29.52 | guest_ | !info dancer-ircd woody |
| 23:29.53 | dpkg | dancer-ircd: (An IRC server designed for centrally maintained networks), section net, is extra. Version: 1.0.31+maint8-1 (woody), Packaged size: 173 kB, Installed size: 480 kB |
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| 23:29.55 | JRWR | eggdrop does |
| 23:30.08 | khanman | eggdrop rocks |
| 23:30.09 | cthulfuego | phalanx: What does it do? Anything an eggdrop or infobot could do as well? |
| 23:30.18 | phalanx | cthulfuego: yup |
| 23:30.18 | [SPQR]aNj | how to get connection from LAN over Linux to Internet ? i have 2 NICs, some tutorial links ? |
| 23:30.34 | phalanx | cthulfuego: but ... what is the cath with that glibc on woody? |
| 23:30.36 | cthulfuego | phalanx: They both have packages, so I suggest you pick one of them (really) |
| 23:30.45 | JRWR | is still looking for his PCMCIA cadbus drives |
| 23:30.52 | cthulfuego | phalanx: Woody has glibc 2.1. Since it's stable, that won't ever be upgraded. |
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| 23:30.59 | directhex | loocek, echo "mozilla-firefox" > ~/.xsession |
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| 23:31.11 | phalanx | cthulfuego: right! ... thank you |
| 23:31.31 | cthulfuego | phalanx: Quite possbily whioever coded that dancer bot did something wrong, it ought to run on 2.1 if it runs on 2.3. |
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| 23:31.44 | [SPQR]aNj | how to get connection from LAN over Linux to Internet ? i have 2 NICs, some tutorial links ? |
| 23:31.51 | doub | JRWR: aren't they included in the kernel? |
| 23:31.57 | loocek | directhex: thx, i'll try |
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| 23:33.54 | Ryushin | Well, I've waited all day for an answer on the postfix channel to no avail. I run postfix/clamav/amavisd-new/cyrus. The new zombie control pc's are starting to send mail through the ISP mail server instead of through their own process. I need to limit the number of messages sent by a client during a configured length of time. Any ideas on what can do this. |
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| 23:34.02 | phalanx | cthulfuego: ./dancer: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by ./dancer) |
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| 23:34.21 | cthulfuego | phalanx: NO! |
| 23:34.31 | cthulfuego | phalanx: NO NOT EVER run downloaded binaries! Ever! |
| 23:34.44 | phalanx | cthulfuego: build it myself |
| 23:34.48 | cthulfuego | phalanx: You can maybe fetch the source and build dancer for your machine. |
| 23:34.59 | cthulfuego | phalanx: That wasn't built on a woody machine, though. |
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| 23:35.04 | phalanx | cthulfuego: i build it from source ... |
| 23:35.24 | phalanx | cthulfuego: that's the message given upon startup of the compiled binary |
| 23:35.37 | ^c | phalanx: not if you didn't have glibc_2.3, it shouldn't of compiled on woody |
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| 23:35.57 | cthulfuego | phalanx: *nod* it was compiled on a box with glibc 2.3, NOT the box you're trying to run it on. |
| 23:36.09 | guest_ | doub: would you know where source for cupsys was extracted to? |
| 23:36.32 | phalanx | cthulfuego: you're right |
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| 23:36.36 | bonez39 | cthulfuego: you bring up a point that I am dealing with..I want to run a program which relies upon php4.2.x...and my php is 4.1.2...I have sid/sarge/testing here....yet, even adding in the appropriate sources I can't get it to upgrade to newer php4.2.x |
| 23:36.38 | moshii | pingouin: oh by the way.. you don't need Japanese input use kiten(really good study tool that uses edict) as it has it's own; so you probably don't want to bother setuping up your system until you have reason to do so |
| 23:36.42 | phalanx | cthulfuego: build it onm the box at home |
| 23:36.47 | cthulfuego | phalanx: yes, I was never in doubt about that <heh> |
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| 23:36.56 | phalanx | cthulfuego: ok so dancer won't run even on woody |
| 23:36.59 | bonez39 | cthulfuego: wouldn't I then need to download the binaries or source...to get around this debian limitation? |
| 23:37.07 | moshii | pingouin: sorry for the spelling heh |
| 23:37.11 | cthulfuego | bonez39: How did you manage to break it? |
| 23:37.15 | phalanx | cthulfuego: clear answer so i can dump it |
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| 23:37.23 | cthulfuego | phalanx: If you *compile* it on woody it will. |
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| 23:37.36 | phalanx | cthulfuego: i tried , it doesn't |
| 23:37.50 | cthulfuego | phalanx: Give me a link to the source. |
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| 23:38.17 | nvz | this is off-topic but I am just blown away. I d/l signed up for an invitation to try vmware 5 beta, and they let me use it until 4/29/2005 .. well it took me like 30seconds to figure out how to make that go away.. I am not sure if I should write them or not |
| 23:38.25 | phalanx | cthulfuego: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=1975 |
| 23:38.28 | bonez39 | cthulfuego: I was playing a video the other day..and the dang thing took over the machine..couldn't escape it once the movie start3ed..had to reboot, since then..no mozilla-firefox..and can't get php4 to upgrade |
| 23:38.28 | Unified | more generic question: is 256mb mem enough to run kde or gnome at an acceptable speed? |
| 23:38.37 | phalanx | cthulfuego: you have to use the cvs version |
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| 23:38.59 | cthulfuego | phalanx: Yep, just lemme fetch it first |
| 23:39.02 | directhex | nvz, it's still pretty buggy, so perhaps they're not scared of people haxx0ring old bugged versions |
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| 23:39.29 | ^c | bonez39: what video? |
| 23:39.33 | martin_ | unified, i have a compaq armada e700 @ 400mhz p2, 256ram and a 15 gb hdd and i run kde 3.3 |
| 23:39.48 | nvz | directhex: maybe I am wrong I was just looking to see what kind of hash they used, and I made the expiration date go away.. it might not be operational *shrug* |
| 23:39.52 | martin_ | knoppix 3.7 |
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| 23:39.59 | bonez39 | ^c: twas one my mother wouldn't approve of..ok? |
| 23:40.00 | barra | Where could I get the mod-ssl for apache 2 ? |
| 23:40.04 | martin_ | altho i think 3.6 ran a little faster |
| 23:40.13 | ^c | bonez39: well I guess you were root |
| 23:40.23 | directhex | martin_, the comparative speeds of knoppix releases are neither here nor there in here |
| 23:40.31 | bonez39 | ^c: that's beside the point..the video didn't break it....it was coldbooting it that broke it..maybe being root? I don't remember though if ran it as root or not |
| 23:40.32 | cthulfuego | phalanx: ... if and when the cvs login finally succeeds. |
| 23:40.49 | nvz | directhex: I mainly want to know if its usable, even if bought.. I dont really need a thing like this, but it works decent on windows and linux, and you can quickly download an ISO and test something in a VM.. but I dont want something thats going to expire that costs $200 |
| 23:40.49 | phalanx | cthulfuego: works on my end |
| 23:40.54 | bonez39 | ^c: ok, all flagellation aside.....how do I get out of the mess now |
| 23:41.02 | phalanx | cthulfuego: can i pm you? |
| 23:41.02 | cthulfuego | phalanx: No joy here |
| 23:41.05 | cthulfuego | phalanx: yes |
| 23:41.08 | phalanx | ok |
| 23:41.26 | ^c | bonez39: is it just firefox and php4 |
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| 23:41.29 | directhex | nvz, i've been [playing with vmware 5 since the beta opened, it's a great product |
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| 23:41.54 | bonez39 | ^c: so far as I know...I can sometimes run firefox from a terminall..but half the time, that won't even get it running |
| 23:42.03 | bonez39 | ^c: and never from just a prompt..... |
| 23:42.46 | ^c | bonez39: try to reinstall them with apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox and so on |
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| 23:42.55 | nvz | directhex: yeah I used vmware years ago when I worked on windows, to run all the different versions of windows without rebooting. |
| 23:43.16 | ^c | bonez39: although it sounds like there is some other cause that affects both firefox and php |
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| 23:43.30 | nvz | directhex: the new one though with the liscence and product expiration worries me.. its too freakin expensive as it is, if you only get a month or two to use it, its useless |
| 23:43.44 | paulswm | nvz: Yeah like it's even possible to run *one* version of Windows without rebooting, heh |
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| 23:43.55 | python_ | hi ppl |
| 23:43.59 | directhex | nvz, the betas have expiry dates, this is nothign new. the final product will just be off-the-shelf same old same old |
| 23:44.03 | websdale | [SPQR]aNj:try http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html |
| 23:44.06 | usr010 | Where are my program executables folders whered all those apps get installed i gotta config menus |
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| 23:44.09 | directhex | nvz, assuming you're using workstation & not virtual server |
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| 23:44.44 | bonez39 | ^c: tried that..even tried with the --force-yes flag..still won't respond.. |
| 23:45.09 | nvz | directhex: I dont know about their other products, I have only used workstation.. the first 3 versions |
| 23:45.19 | bonez39 | ^c: I even downloaded php in tarball and untarred it...can't even get that to run right...so dependent upon debian' and it taking care of all the details for me |
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| 23:45.32 | nvz | directhex: I just had Debian Sarge and Freebsd loaded up on the xp box, and I am now playing with the linux one |
| 23:45.54 | directhex | nvz, i have 120gb of virtual machines on my office pc |
| 23:46.04 | paulswm | cthulfuego: hey, 4 slaves working to try to win me $2000, dig the CPU % and CPU time for distributed-net: http://home.earthlink.net/~paulswm/images/dnetc.png |
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| 23:46.28 | usr010 | doncha just love the bsod scrsaver |
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| 23:46.55 | doub | directhex: what emulator/virtualizer do you use? |
| 23:47.50 | directhex | doub, vmware. qemu just kept crashing as well as being slow. |
| 23:47.51 | bonez39 | ^c: no suggestions, eh? |
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| 23:48.29 | ^c | bonez39: nope, I never had that problem with coldbooting |
| 23:48.29 | doub | directhex: i'm installing freebsd in qemu right now. still slow, but it works, so far (end of install) |
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| 23:48.37 | MitchK | paulswm: it wuld go alot faster if you DIDNT run an X server |
| 23:48.37 | doub | directhex: i can't afford vmware |
| 23:48.45 | cthulfuego | paulswm: http://monolith.dnsalias.org/ogrp2/ |
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| 23:49.32 | JRWR | what "programe" can i use to logon to AOL |
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| 23:49.48 | abrotman | JRWR: you mean dial up or AOL IM? |
| 23:49.54 | JRWR | dialup |
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| 23:49.59 | doub | directhex: have you ever tried xen? |
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| 23:50.16 | directhex | doub, no. |
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| 23:50.25 | moshii | JRWR: the was one called pengaol or something.. other than that you're out of luck ; |
| 23:50.33 | JRWR | wow |
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| 23:50.42 | demanche | if my server should have a 120gb hdd and its not showing in "df" how would i go about mounting it? |
| 23:50.45 | JRWR | is there a deb pkg for it |
| 23:50.53 | moshii | JRWR: google |
| 23:50.56 | JRWR | ok |
| 23:51.19 | Thaiger | JRWR: I don't use aol, but it seems like penggy might work |
| 23:51.19 | abrotman | and long abandoned i think |
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| 23:51.31 | websdale | JRWR:I think linspire have produced something AOL-related recently |
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| 23:51.39 | doub | demanche: maybe you need to partition it and create filesystems first |
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| 23:51.55 | JRWR | ya but thats them |
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| 23:52.54 | paulswm | MitchK: Hey, I use them for other things as well, and *one* of them isn't running an X server :) |
| 23:53.43 | paulswm | cthulfuego: COOL man, but no prize money |
| 23:54.10 | demanche | ok ill check |
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| 23:54.22 | paulswm | cthulfuego: sorry, I see the RC5now |
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| 23:54.49 | directhex | websdale, correct, linspire have an aol dialer |
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| 23:55.39 | python_ | can any one tell me how to shut down xdm from the command line |
| 23:55.43 | SexyKen | Hey guys, assume you have 2 numbers. 10.95 and 9.95 -- how do you find what percentage the 'discount' is if you get 9.95 |
| 23:55.53 | Glitch_Master | Question: Why is something as miniscule as a flash movie so CPU intensive under Debian, where it would not have been otherwise? |
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| 23:55.55 | websdale | JRWR:http://www.linspire.com/dialersource |
| 23:55.58 | cthulfuego | SexyKen: Go to school! |
| 23:56.00 | cthulfuego | Sheesh! |
| 23:56.01 | directhex | python_, /etc/init.d/xdm stop |
| 23:56.13 | demanche | would that be my mising drive? |
| 23:56.15 | demanche | /dev/hdb4 0 - 0 0 0 Empty |
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| 23:56.30 | demanche | thats what i see with sfdisk -l |
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| 23:56.46 | paulswm | (base price - discountedprince)*100/baseprice |
| 23:56.48 | cthulfuego | !10.95 - 9.95 / 10.95 * 100 |
| 23:56.49 | dpkg | -79.917579908676 |
| 23:56.56 | cthulfuego | retarded bot |
| 23:56.57 | paulswm | ^^ school |
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| 23:57.05 | cthulfuego | !(10.95 - 9.95)/ 10.95 * 100 |
| 23:57.05 | dpkg | 9.132420091324 |
| 23:57.27 | Glitch_Master | Why wasn't my previous question acknowledged? |
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| 23:57.33 | cthulfuego | Glitch_Master: it sucked |
| 23:57.34 | FieldySnuts | because we don't care |
| 23:57.42 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: smart questions? |
| 23:57.43 | ravenbird | i heard smart questions is "Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html", or http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 23:57.55 | JRWR | will that dialer work with debian? |
| 23:57.56 | Glitch_Master | It's an important question... This is a good processor, and this shouldn't be happening. |
| 23:57.56 | [Cadet] | What does the command cd '- foo mean? |
| 23:57.59 | FieldySnuts | that url isn't meant to be an insult, btw. |
| 23:58.06 | george_007 | How can I stop /etc/resolf.conf from being overwriten? I need to have "search localdomain" there but I have "search "some.strange.domain". |
| 23:58.11 | paulswm | cthulfuego: I've only been running RC5 for a few days, and one of the box isn't counted, but my stats so far: http://stats.distributed.net/participant/phistory.php?project_id=8&id=446411 |
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| 23:58.39 | SexyKen | !(10.95 - 8.95)/ 10.95 * 100 |
| 23:58.39 | dpkg | 18.264840182648 |
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| 23:58.48 | sparr | help? Err ftp://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' |
| 23:58.49 | FieldySnuts | stop that |
| 23:59.13 | JRWR | will the lindows aol dialer work with debian |
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| 23:59.21 | FieldySnuts | JRWR: are you trolling? |
| 23:59.25 | JRWR | ?\ |
| 23:59.30 | sparr | JRWR: theres an old linux aol dialer... aolpeng or something |
| 23:59.31 | Flimzy | Glitch_Master: Who says a Flash movie should not be CPU intensive? |
| 23:59.48 | Glitch_Master | Flimzy: It wasn't under Windows... :\ |
| 23:59.49 | JRWR | ive never gotten that to work yet... |
| 23:59.52 | SexyKen | !(43.95 - 42.95)/ 43.95 * 100 |
| 23:59.52 | dpkg | 2.275312855518 |
| 23:59.57 | Flimzy | Glitch_Master: Then use Windows |
