| 00:00.10 | quitte | streuner: obviously the web page where you found that something |
| 00:00.28 | streuner | abrotman: no idea, that shouldn't be a random thingie... |
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| 00:00.42 | streuner | quitte: heh? |
| 00:01.00 | quitte | streuner great now we both are confused. |
| 00:01.06 | streuner | haha |
| 00:01.23 | abrotman | streuner: oh .. i think it's like NMUs |
| 00:01.35 | jstevens | and... if I"m using kernel 2.6.8, is there any reason to keep 2.4.27 installed? |
| 00:02.01 | Zvpun | PeQua: I tried to explain to you why there cant be a general way to do, what you want. |
| 00:02.01 | streuner | !nmu |
| 00:02.01 | dpkg | nmu is probably Non Maintainer Upload, it's when a debian developer which is not the maintainer of a package uploads an update of said package |
| 00:02.10 | C5Hardtop | !nmu |
| 00:02.11 | streuner | true |
| 00:02.33 | PeQua | Zvpun: ic, ok tnx Zvpun |
| 00:02.35 | streuner | C5Hardtop: wouldn't work, if you call the bot in a certain time |
| 00:02.37 | abrotman | streuner: people who aren't really DDs .. it actually tells you on the page :) |
| 00:03.03 | C5Hardtop | gotcha, i was just seeing what it said but i noticed that it prints it publicly |
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| 00:03.08 | streuner | mdk and gentoo have that |
| 00:03.16 | streuner | but not debian |
| 00:03.17 | C5Hardtop | sarge rocks |
| 00:03.19 | abrotman | have what? |
| 00:03.22 | streuner | we know |
| 00:03.26 | streuner | ccd2iso |
| 00:03.41 | streuner | a little tool to convert ccd's to isos |
| 00:03.57 | Zvpun | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.00 | quitte | why bother. two of two people that tried couldn'T use it |
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| 00:04.17 | streuner | abrotman: no idea , i don't like cats :-) |
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| 00:04.29 | streuner | abrotman: s/idea/way/ |
| 00:04.44 | abrotman | !cat streuner |
| 00:04.50 | Mr_Smiley | what does the quake2-data package do? |
| 00:04.53 | PeQua | ok tnx Zvpun |
| 00:05.00 | abrotman | Mr_Smiley: apt-cache show quake2-data |
| 00:05.26 | pyrophreak | is there a command to run a LILO install wizzard? or something of that sort? |
| 00:05.29 | Mr_Smiley | hmm |
| 00:05.36 | abrotman | pyrophreak: /sbin/lilo |
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| 00:05.41 | Mr_Smiley | i've installed it but it seemed to do nothing |
| 00:06.16 | abrotman | Mr_Smiley: apt-cache show quake2-data |
| 00:06.17 | [Granger] | Mr_Smiley: there are no "wizards" in the linux world |
| 00:06.26 | Mr_Smiley | it says you have the choice to install it from cdrom but how? |
| 00:06.28 | abrotman | [Granger]: wrong person |
| 00:06.29 | simonrvn | O_O. lilo install wizard? |
| 00:06.44 | C5Hardtop | i just installed firefox and it used a wizard |
| 00:06.55 | [Granger] | I mean pyrophreak |
| 00:06.58 | [Granger] | thanks abrotman |
| 00:07.09 | [Granger] | abrotman: that's not an install wizard |
| 00:07.17 | [Granger] | that's a configuration gui front end |
| 00:07.18 | C5Hardtop | what do we call it? |
| 00:07.24 | [Granger] | commonly called "wizard" in windows speak |
| 00:07.30 | C5Hardtop | lol, ok, gotcha |
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| 00:07.52 | abrotman | [Granger]: if it's got some gui .. and i can click it .. isn't that a wizard ? :) |
| 00:07.55 | C5Hardtop | oh, wizard has the windows name attached to it |
| 00:08.05 | [Granger] | no |
| 00:08.06 | muhoo_ | aha! i found it. |
| 00:08.08 | arius | well, it is the net card, and seems to be IRQ |
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| 00:08.13 | muhoo_ | X -auth /tmp/crap :1 vt9 |
| 00:08.22 | Mr_Smiley | so i've install the package quake2-data but it did nothing that i can tell.. it says in the description you have the choice to install quake2 using the cdrom but how do i do it? :) |
| 00:08.22 | [Granger] | Wizard == lame Windows configuration front end that doesn't do its job anyway |
| 00:08.33 | muhoo_ | this rules. xvncviewer -display :1 -fullscreen remotehost:5901 |
| 00:08.41 | abrotman | [Granger]: it does something .. just usually not what you want :) |
| 00:08.44 | [Granger] | that creates more problems than it solves too |
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| 00:08.56 | jetscreamer | Mr_Smiley, you copy over the .pk3's off the cd iirc... err .pak for q2 i think |
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| 00:09.02 | Mr_Smiley | ah thanks |
| 00:09.08 | C5Hardtop | brb, beer |
| 00:09.09 | Mr_Smiley | thats all i needed :) |
| 00:09.18 | streuner | Oh those people who creates spam aren't that clever :-) blablah@somedomain.com 'Your check has arrived' :-) |
| 00:09.36 | absence | debian's freetype renders some fonts horribly ugly, but when i compile it myself it looks nice. how do i go about replacing the debian one with one that renders better without breaking havoc with dpkg, dependencies and whatnot? or perhaps someone has already made such a package? |
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| 00:09.43 | pyrophreak | yea, Im getting these messages: LBA32 addressing assumed; COMPACT my conflict with LBA32 on Some systems; /dev/hdb3 is not on the first disk |
| 00:09.57 | pyrophreak | and I check the config, and I dont have windows on thier |
| 00:09.59 | pyrophreak | there* |
| 00:10.00 | jetscreamer | why are you using compact? |
| 00:10.01 | pyrophreak | how do I add it |
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| 00:10.23 | jetscreamer | pyrophreak, is this lilo or grub |
| 00:10.31 | pyrophreak | I dont even know what compact is, I was just trying to update my kernel |
| 00:10.33 | pyrophreak | LILO |
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| 00:10.43 | quitte | streuner what about "we met on irc - i hope you are male" as a subject? |
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| 00:11.13 | streuner | quitte: haha |
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| 00:11.27 | jetscreamer | pyrophreak, man lilo.conf, go all the way down. there is an example for windows. other= ... it's also in lilo.conf. edit /etc/lilo.conf and comment compact, unless you need it. |
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| 00:11.59 | abrotman | pseubodot: sic steelhoof |
| 00:12.07 | steelhoof | woof |
| 00:12.34 | jetscreamer | pyrophreak, another thing to do would be to mv lilo.conf to lilo.conf.something, and run liloconfig... then edit it. |
| 00:12.45 | jetscreamer | edit the new .conf i mean |
| 00:12.59 | abrotman | or use grub ? |
| 00:13.07 | steelhoof | Abrotman: finally got testing working on the laptop |
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| 00:13.16 | abrotman | steelhoof: what took so long ? |
| 00:13.28 | jetscreamer | hey i installed grub an hour ago... it hasn't broken yet, so i can't support grub yet :) |
| 00:13.35 | arius | quitte: what is a good way to fix an IRQ problem like this? |
| 00:13.37 | cafuego | Hmm. If you add up the digits of 1000 6-digit numbers, the number you end up with is most likely 25. |
| 00:13.40 | abrotman | jetscreamer: heh |
| 00:13.52 | simonrvn | cafuego: nah, 42 |
| 00:13.54 | abrotman | cafuego: does this bother you? |
| 00:14.01 | steelhoof | 2 days of downtime to get all pkg installed a tweaked |
| 00:14.03 | arius | quitte: I was able to replicate the problem with a ping -f |
| 00:14.08 | steelhoof | needed to plan for it |
| 00:14.09 | abrotman | cafuego: wait .. that doesn't sound random |
| 00:14.11 | asuffield | cafuego: that's an interesting yet highly improbable notion |
| 00:14.24 | cafuego | abrotman: No, just thought I'd check (generating simple checksums for 6 digit password) |
| 00:14.32 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: it wouldn't be random... |
| 00:14.40 | pyrophreak | How do find out what OS's are on what partitions and such? |
| 00:14.46 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: 4.5*6 |
| 00:14.58 | asuffield | pyrophreak: previous knowledge |
| 00:15.00 | quitte | arius plug the nic in a different pci slot if you have a free one |
| 00:15.06 | pyrophreak | and if you forgot? |
| 00:15.09 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: 27 ? |
| 00:15.10 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: are you sure it's not 27? |
| 00:15.16 | jetscreamer | speaking of, how do you get lilo to autodetect all partitions/os's, just like in the woody install |
| 00:15.18 | asuffield | pyrophreak: get remembering |
| 00:15.24 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: it is on a run of 10,000 |
| 00:15.26 | dondelelcaro | or does 012345 not count as a 6 digit number? |
| 00:15.30 | quitte | arius or the soundcard if the nic is onboard. if both are onboard try ddifferent bios settings |
| 00:15.31 | arius | quitte: thanks |
| 00:15.31 | pyrophreak | no command I can run? |
| 00:15.32 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i'm not a bot .. don't ask me confusing math questions :) |
| 00:15.48 | cafuego | 27, 25, 26, 29, 30, 28 |
| 00:15.53 | arius | quitte: it is actually conflicting with acpi |
| 00:16.02 | asuffield | pyrophreak: no |
| 00:16.17 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Yes, it does. |
| 00:16.20 | steelhoof | spamloads are rising again 750 messages over 48 hours, 75% spam |
| 00:16.22 | arius | quitte: the sound card that is |
| 00:16.23 | quitte | arius well you could disable acpi of course. |
| 00:16.25 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: no, I mean, the average number between 0-9 is 4.5, and so on average that's what you'd see in every digit... over 6 digits, you'd expect to see 27. |
| 00:16.31 | jetscreamer | wtf where is liloconfig |
| 00:16.37 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: for(0 to 5) { random(0,9) } |
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| 00:16.46 | quitte | arius strange that acpi seems to be linked with the nic so closely |
| 00:16.48 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: yeah ... you're right .. ideally ... |
| 00:16.48 | arius | quitte: Is there a a good reason that I might need it |
| 00:17.01 | abrocadabro | is it possible to have an account but deny its ssh access? |
| 00:17.06 | quitte | arius pressing the power button and have the box shut down |
| 00:17.12 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yeah... assuming even distributions of random numbers and everything |
| 00:17.13 | abrotman | but cafuego's formula could yield a 5 digit number |
| 00:17.14 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: heh |
| 00:17.14 | jetscreamer | ahh doh |
| 00:17.17 | streuner | abrocadabro: yes |
| 00:17.18 | resiak | cafuego: DO IT! |
| 00:17.38 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: well, sure... but 012345 is a 6 digit number as far as I'm concerned |
| 00:17.40 | arius | quitte: my guess is that it is tied to the clock and acpi is driving it |
| 00:17.41 | abrocadabro | streuner: enlighten me |
| 00:17.43 | streuner | abrocadabro: set up sshd |
| 00:17.46 | cafuego | I could do a run of a million and generate all possibly permutations by chance; see how long it takes ;-) |
| 00:18.02 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: if you count leading zeroes .. and in that case . i've got a 10 digit salary :) |
| 00:18.28 | asuffield | abrotman: yeah, but it's got a decimal point on the front |
| 00:18.28 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: heh. I just meant in the context of the average that I was talking about |
| 00:18.33 | quitte | arius no idea. i never had fully functional acpi and dont know a lot about it |
| 00:18.41 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: I even got 3 that added up to '4'. |
| 00:18.44 | dondelelcaro | what, is he being paid in pu or whatever that was? |
| 00:18.45 | arius | quitte: ok, thanks |
| 00:18.46 | abrotman | asuffield: that's what my boss wishes |
| 00:19.01 | *** mode/#Debian [+l 782] by debhelper |
| 00:19.08 | abrotman | you know .. these intel blue man group commercials are .. dumb |
| 00:19.13 | rixth | Is there anyway to send messages (like popup alerts) between Debian & XP? I know between two XP machines you could use net send *username* *message* |
| 00:19.19 | asuffield | dondelelcaro: nobody has ever connected enough ningis to own one pu |
| 00:19.21 | asuffield | s/connected/collected/ |
| 00:19.21 | abrotman | !linpopup |
| 00:19.22 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: s/blue man group// |
| 00:19.26 | BrianAnthony | why do I get no sound from music files? |
| 00:19.28 | cafuego | abrotman: Just like their customers. Marriage made in heaven. |
| 00:19.28 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: heh |
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| 00:19.30 | asuffield | abrotman: well duh, *all* advertising is dumb |
| 00:19.42 | dondelelcaro | asuffield: ah, right... ningis... at least I got part of it right. |
| 00:19.48 | abrotman | asuffield: no way .. the people who know they have a dumb product make the best commercials |
| 00:20.00 | jcesaro | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=20921 -> Wicked Debian 640x480 Debian wallpaper |
| 00:20.12 | asuffield | who the fuck runs at 640x480? |
| 00:20.17 | asuffield | not that wallpaper makes any sense to begin with |
| 00:20.20 | resiak | As opposed to SuSE 640x480 Debian wallpaper? |
| 00:20.27 | abrotman | asuffield: i do on 14" monitors |
| 00:20.30 | quitte | asuffield: 640x240 here |
| 00:20.36 | asuffield | abrotman: 800x600, at least |
| 00:20.43 | abrotman | asuffield: i have bad eyes :) |
| 00:20.47 | jcesaro | chek it out |
| 00:20.48 | asuffield | abrotman: get glasses |
| 00:20.53 | abrotman | asuffield: i have contacts |
| 00:20.57 | dondelelcaro | asuffield: those only help slightly |
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| 00:21.00 | asuffield | abrotman: get *new* ones, with the right focus :P |
| 00:21.09 | abrotman | asuffield: i was just at the doctor 3 weeks ago |
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| 00:21.14 | dondelelcaro | when you're at -11.00 and -5 diopters, these things happen |
| 00:21.23 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ok .. i'm not that bad :) |
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| 00:21.36 | steelhoof | are jokes allowed on #debian? |
| 00:21.41 | C5Hardtop | yes |
| 00:21.43 | asuffield | no. your jokes suck. |
| 00:21.44 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: you're one of those that can't find the bathroom in the middle of the night without your glasses ? |
| 00:21.50 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: heh. it's funny, if I take off one contact, the focal point is about at my nose. |
| 00:21.53 | jcesaro | http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=20921&file1=20921-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Wicked+Debian |
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| 00:22.01 | steelhoof | offically it is being referred to as a Chaneyectomy |
| 00:22.11 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: oh, I can find it... I don't really need to see to locate my bathroom |
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| 00:22.23 | abrocadabro | streuner:thanks, it works |
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| 00:22.23 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: yeah .. i can kind of make out the alarm clock from my bed .. about 6-8 feet from my pillow |
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| 00:22.34 | TheMachine2 | ok, so im installing the nvidia drivers, got everything done, but X is complaining about "screens found, but none have a usable configuration: |
| 00:22.42 | dondelelcaro | heh. I can't tell what the alarm clock says unless I'm holding it |
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| 00:22.51 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: yeah .. you are blind :) |
| 00:22.54 | TheMachine2 | yet if i change the driver back in the configuration file, it works |
| 00:22.55 | ssj4conejo | everytime i boot to my newly compiled kernel i get VFS error: says something about not being able to to find (0,0) my rootfs is reiserfs and /boot is ext3, i had this previously and simply generated an initrd,and it worked, now nothing works |
| 00:23.33 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i can still drive without mine .. i just can't see very far |
| 00:23.38 | streuner | abrocadabro: np |
| 00:24.07 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: you also have astigmatism ? |
| 00:24.07 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: heh. Yeah, there's no way I can drive without them. |
| 00:24.17 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: not enough so it matters. |
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| 00:24.38 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ah . i guess mine is fairly bad .. so when my contacts get 'stuck' .. bad vision |
| 00:24.44 | asuffield | dondelelcaro: you don't need contacts, you need a fucking guide dog |
| 00:24.47 | cafuego | ssj4conejo: You forgot to add root=/dev/foo to the kerne |
| 00:24.57 | pyrophreak | how do I know my default MBR? |
| 00:25.07 | cafuego | pyrophreak: /dev/hda |
| 00:25.10 | TheZanke | where is the .conf for mysql located? |
| 00:25.16 | dondelelcaro | asuffield: heh. I can see well enough to deal with that sort of stuf... not in any danger of walking into walls or anythign |
| 00:25.18 | cafuego | TheZanke: /etc/mysql.my.cnf |
| 00:25.20 | abrotman | /etc/mysql/my.conf ? |
| 00:25.20 | jazzmanss | I had RLK about ten years ago, before that my vision was 370/425 |
| 00:25.23 | streuner | abrotman: why are you often so unsecure? |
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| 00:25.33 | abrotman | streuner: insecure ? |
| 00:25.35 | dondelelcaro | asuffield: plus, contacts bring me right back into a reasonable vision range |
| 00:25.36 | abrotman | unsure ? |
| 00:25.45 | streuner | abrotman: insecure, yep. |
| 00:25.46 | cafuego | abrotman: No, unsecure. We got r00t. |
| 00:25.57 | abrotman | streuner: about what? |
| 00:26.01 | BrianAnthony | what is the package name for modconf? |
| 00:26.04 | abrotman | modconf! |
| 00:26.12 | BrianAnthony | hmm |
| 00:26.13 | quitte | BrianAnthony: module-init-tools |
| 00:26.16 | abrotman | streuner: what about? |
| 00:26.17 | BrianAnthony | okay |
| 00:26.19 | streuner | abrotman: people tend to blame other when they are insecure |
| 00:26.26 | abrotman | streuner: who did i blame ? |
| 00:26.34 | quitte | ah sorry |
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| 00:27.20 | abrotman | streuner: ? |
| 00:27.20 | Loevborg | normally I should be safe to remove /usr/local, shouldn't I? |
| 00:27.36 | streuner | abrotman: nm |
| 00:27.44 | quitte | streuner is intentionally confusing people today |
| 00:27.50 | beardy | Loevborg: Why would you want to do that? |
| 00:28.05 | abrotman | streuner: no .. tell me!! |
| 00:28.15 | streuner | quitte: abrotman needs sometimes a little kick |
| 00:28.25 | abrotman | !kick streuner |
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| 00:28.30 | Loevborg | beardy, I seem to have an old manually-installed java installation, and I have no idea how to remove every little bit that's still there... |
| 00:28.37 | TheZanke | for some reason i can get to my mySQL tables with no login, how do i fix that? i dont see it in the config |
| 00:28.42 | TheZanke | .conf* |
| 00:28.50 | abrotman | TheZanke: #mysql |
| 00:29.09 | quitte | streuner how do you know? |
| 00:29.20 | jethro | TheZanke: read /usr/share/doc/<package/* |
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| 00:29.56 | quitte | talking about a little kick - i haven't seen anyone telling everybody he's taking crack for a pretty long time |
| 00:30.02 | vipe | according to google it seems I can't write DVDRW's with dvdrecord ? |
| 00:30.15 | abrotman | quitte: i think don made him stop doing that |
| 00:30.20 | BrianAnthony | quitte how would I configure modules with module-init-tools |
| 00:30.31 | vipe | what should I use after formatting with dvd+rw-format |
| 00:30.41 | beardy | Loevborg: Have you checked if it has any "make uninstall" or similar? Or some log of what and where it put things? |
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| 00:31.13 | Loevborg | beardy, that was quite some time ago, so I don't have the installation files ready. |
| 00:31.33 | quitte | BrianAnthony: i confused it. modprobe is in module-init-tools. but if you just want to load a module at boot time put it in /etc/modules |
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| 00:32.06 | BrianAnthony | hoq qould I configure ALSA to use a different sound card? |
| 00:32.17 | streuner | alsaconf |
| 00:32.19 | streuner | run it |
| 00:32.40 | Loevborg | beardy, now I just remove everything with java in its name, so maybe it'll work now |
| 00:33.21 | streuner | BrianAnthony: if you set up ALSA via /etc/modules just use that |
| 00:33.22 | BrianAnthony | streuner: says not found |
| 00:33.37 | streuner | BrianAnthony: should be in alsa-source |
| 00:33.37 | resiak | BrianAnthony: What version of Debian are you using? |
| 00:33.46 | streuner | !find alsaconf |
| 00:33.53 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'alsaconf' (1 shown): (/usr/sbin/alsaconf, /usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/alsaconf.mo) in sound/alsa-utils. |
| 00:33.53 | BrianAnthony | I'm using Ubuntu |
| 00:33.58 | resiak | BAM! |
| 00:34.04 | quitte | #ubuntu |
| 00:34.05 | streuner | BENG |
| 00:34.08 | FieldySnuts | *sigh* rad the topic. |
| 00:34.10 | FieldySnuts | read |
| 00:34.24 | resiak | BrianAnthony: /topic; /j #ubuntu; thank you for your time :-) |
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| 00:35.27 | ZyX | i just issued "touch öäü" (3 german letters with accents) and now ls shows this: "???" instead of the characters.. where's the problem? locales are set right, filesystem is xfs |
| 00:35.33 | pyrophreak | what is Compact (concerning LiLo) |
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| 00:35.53 | abrotman | use grub |
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| 00:36.09 | resiak | !avoidingthequestionsmite abrotman |
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| 00:36.36 | abrotman | !lilo |
| 00:36.44 | abrotman | see .. dpkg doesn't even know about it |
| 00:36.47 | abrotman | why i don't know |
| 00:36.49 | streuner | ZyX: works perfect on my woody box |
| 00:36.58 | abrotman | oh .. dpkg is dying again |
| 00:37.04 | ZyX | streuner, which fs? |
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| 00:37.14 | pyrophreak | either way, what is Compact |
| 00:37.19 | streuner | ZyX: ext2 |
| 00:37.19 | jetscreamer | pyrophreak, man lilo.conf, it's something about saving space for a certain type of installation/box, i forget, but it's in the man |
| 00:37.34 | abrotman | ~hello |
| 00:37.35 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 00:37.40 | ZyX | i tried it on a ext3 partition, same problem.. |
| 00:37.47 | jetscreamer | hell it's in a comment in lilo.conf even |
| 00:37.56 | streuner | ZyX: what does 'cat /etc/enviroment' say? |
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| 00:38.15 | ZyX | LANG=de_DE@euro |
| 00:38.16 | BucWheat | is there anyway to make sarge net-install install 2.6.8 kernel instead of 2.4.27 kernel ? |
| 00:38.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, lilo is the LInux LOader, and the head of staff of irc.freenode.net (who isn't named after the LInux LOader) |
| 00:38.23 | wilbertoki | Hello |
| 00:38.25 | jetscreamer | solemnwarning, apt just gave you a solemn warning |
| 00:38.42 | streuner | ZyX: try LANG=de_DE |
| 00:38.45 | jetscreamer | bucky, linux26 is one way |
| 00:38.53 | jetscreamer | err bucwheat sorry |
| 00:38.58 | C5Hardtop | good question BucWheat |
| 00:39.03 | jetscreamer | BucWheat, hit F1 |
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| 00:39.12 | jetscreamer | hit F2 |
| 00:39.15 | resiak | jetscreamer: Surely linux26 is _the_ way? |
| 00:39.16 | abrotman | BucWheat: or read the install guide |
| 00:39.17 | ZyX | streuner, i dont think its a locale problem, the characters get displayed right.. just the fs cant handle it |
| 00:39.17 | jetscreamer | RTEAD THE DAMN SCREEN |
| 00:39.28 | BucWheat | jetscreamer when? i'm already at install grub heh |
| 00:39.29 | abrotman | resiak: reading is hard .. let's go drinking! |
| 00:39.34 | wilbertoki | if I restore dpkg list and copy /etc and /home will that replicate a sarge install on a new machine? |
| 00:39.39 | jetscreamer | BucWheat, when it first boots |
| 00:39.40 | streuner | ZyX: so you aren't using ext2? |
| 00:39.45 | resiak | abrotman: Been there, done that :-) |
| 00:39.50 | Loevborg | ah, make-jpkg is stupid! |
| 00:39.59 | pyrophreak | is there away to see where your windows partition is? |
| 00:40.00 | BucWheat | jetscreamer ahh the debian splash screen ? |
| 00:40.01 | jetscreamer | but make-kpkg rocks |
| 00:40.01 | resiak | Loevborg: What's wrong with it? |
| 00:40.02 | abrotman | resiak: i'm staying in .. i'm pretty worn out |
| 00:40.06 | ZyX | streuner, ext3 for root and xfs for data |
| 00:40.08 | C5Hardtop | yes, install the ntfs driver |
| 00:40.09 | resiak | abrotman: Good scheme.' |
| 00:40.15 | jetscreamer | BucWheat, i mean when you first boot the install cd |
| 00:40.22 | resiak | C5Hardtop: What are you on? |
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| 00:40.27 | jetscreamer | yes at the boot: prompt |
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| 00:40.34 | jetscreamer | hit f1 f2 f3... |
| 00:40.35 | resiak | pyrophreak: What do you mean? Which one of /dev/hdaX it's on? |
| 00:40.42 | pyrophreak | yea |
| 00:40.45 | jetscreamer | yes resiak that's what he meand |
| 00:41.03 | pyrophreak | resiak: I am trying to config LiLo, and cant remember what partition it is on |
| 00:41.14 | BucWheat | jetscreamer i see the help now. |
| 00:41.15 | jetscreamer | fdisk -l /dev/hda or something would give you the fs type |
| 00:41.15 | streuner | ZyX: well, no problem here too |
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| 00:41.29 | jetscreamer | BucWheat, type linux26 or expert26 |
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| 00:41.34 | jetscreamer | as you will read |
| 00:41.42 | Loevborg | resiak, it wants to be used with fakeroot; but java5 cannot access some files if it is not real root. |
| 00:41.48 | Br34ch | I'm on a laptop . . . I'd like to go with something "simply," primarily coming onto Linux to test my php scripts and such |
| 00:41.50 | jetscreamer | err part type |
| 00:41.53 | streuner | ZyX: on the other box, which has sid installed i got no error too (XFS as FS) |
| 00:41.57 | Br34ch | What distro would best suit me? |
| 00:42.08 | FieldySnuts | guess what answer you'd get here. |
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| 00:42.11 | jetscreamer | Br34ch, distrowatch.com |
| 00:42.16 | Br34ch | thank you |
| 00:42.19 | resiak | Loevborg: I see :=) |
| 00:42.22 | C5Hardtop | debian sarge is the best i have fount. red hat is too bloated and slow |
| 00:42.23 | abrotman | !tell Br34ch about why debian |
| 00:42.24 | BucWheat | jetscreamer k |
| 00:42.27 | streuner | ZyX: the same in both /etc/enviroment |
| 00:42.28 | C5Hardtop | *found |
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| 00:42.33 | useruser_ | anyone else find that mozilla-firefox leaks memory quite badly? |
| 00:42.35 | Br34ch | !tell |
| 00:42.59 | useruser_ | the one in sid, that is |
| 00:43.01 | jetscreamer | Br34ch, for yourself, it's /msg dpkg thingtomsg |
| 00:43.14 | Br34ch | heh, got it.. thanks again |
| 00:43.30 | directhex | gah. NFS hates me |
| 00:43.32 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.37 | jetscreamer | directhex, me too |
| 00:43.45 | ZyX | streuner, i have another machine with ext3 and same locale, and there it works. very strange. |
| 00:43.50 | jetscreamer | directhex, i was gonna try shfs |
| 00:44.08 | digerati | seen digerati |
| 00:44.16 | jetscreamer | no we havent |
| 00:44.24 | abrotman | !seen digerati |
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| 00:44.24 | dpkg | digerati is currently on #debian (2m 14s). Has said a total of 40 messages. Is idling for 16s |
| 00:44.24 | digerati | ok |
| 00:44.45 | digerati | ok good |
| 00:44.47 | jetscreamer | 40 messages in 3 minutes??? |
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| 00:44.58 | abrotman | !seen abrotman |
| 00:44.58 | dpkg | abrotman is currently on #debian (1h 20m 37s). Has said a total of 78206 messages. Is idling for 0s |
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| 00:45.11 | digerati | !seen emfpilot |
| 00:45.11 | dpkg | emfpilot <~digerati@c-24-9-169-8.client.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1d 7h 1m 46s ago, saying: 'chugga: http://libranet.com'. |
| 00:45.31 | digerati | !seen signal9 |
| 00:45.31 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'signal9', digerati |
| 00:45.35 | abrotman | digerati: ok .. stop now |
| 00:45.42 | abrotman | digerati: i was trying to demonstrate a point |
| 00:45.48 | resiak | directhex: What's it done this time? |
| 00:45.52 | digerati | yea yea I got it |
| 00:46.07 | directhex | resiak, can't make it work. i probably just suck, of course |
| 00:46.25 | jetscreamer | o9999999999990900000000999999999000000000000 |
| 00:46.28 | resiak | directhex: Probably ;) |
| 00:46.32 | resiak | jetscreamer: Are you okay there? |
| 00:46.47 | jetscreamer | ack. i hate coughing and sneezing and having stuff get all up under my keys |
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| 00:47.00 | abrotman | paulswm: nightie night! |
| 00:47.08 | streuner | paulswm: nite |
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| 00:47.25 | abrotman | hmm .. food |
| 00:47.28 | abrotman | i have none |
| 00:47.33 | digerati | hmmm beer |
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| 00:47.34 | abrotman | !pizza me |
| 00:47.59 | streuner | there should be a store somewhere in NJ :-) |
| 00:48.03 | abrotman | oh . i know |
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| 00:48.17 | FieldySnuts | hrm i'm hungry, good idea |
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| 00:48.27 | slackd00d | !suck FieldySnuts |
| 00:48.34 | FieldySnuts | er |
| 00:48.37 | slackd00d | = P |
| 00:48.47 | jcarr | hey, i I can't seem to get my sound to work on mplayer... it works on everything else. :/ |
| 00:48.54 | jcarr | I tried all the plugins/drivers |
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| 00:49.04 | jcarr | do I need to restart mplayer after each one? |
| 00:49.10 | jcarr | after I change each one I mean |
| 00:49.17 | Loevborg | jcarr, try it from a terminal |
| 00:49.27 | directhex | ffs, NFS shouldn't be complicated |
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| 00:49.33 | Loevborg | jcarr, using "-ao oss", then "-ao alsa" |
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| 00:50.26 | digerati | anyone from colorado? |
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| 00:50.59 | jcarr | nope |
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| 00:51.08 | jcarr | what a peice of shit... no sound at all... |
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| 00:51.13 | jcarr | god |
| 00:51.16 | jcarr | that's annoying |
| 00:51.21 | abrotman | so don't use it>? |
| 00:51.33 | jcarr | abrotman, is there something that will at least output sound? |
| 00:51.36 | streuner | jcarr: the packages is from marillat? |
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| 00:51.46 | jcarr | um, let me check my sources |
| 00:51.55 | streuner | forget it then |
| 00:51.59 | me | why would "modprobe nvidia" say it cant locate the module? |
| 00:51.59 | me | anyone? |
| 00:52.02 | jetscreamer | cat /proc/stat seems to be telling me i have 2 cpu's. i don't. |
| 00:52.16 | jcarr | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 00:52.23 | jetscreamer | me, because the alias didn't get added to modules.conf maybe |
| 00:52.30 | jcarr | yeah |
| 00:52.35 | jcarr | that's the source |
| 00:52.41 | jcarr | I'll upgrade it :/ |
| 00:52.45 | abrotman | jcarr: dunno .. i use totem |
| 00:53.17 | jetscreamer | abrotman, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer though |
| 00:53.35 | abrotman | jetscreamer: i think i'm using xine now |
| 00:53.38 | jetscreamer | jcarr, do you have the w32codecs installed? |
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| 00:53.45 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 00:53.51 | jcarr | jetscreamer, I guess...? The video runs |
| 00:53.57 | solemnwarning | i got debian setup |
| 00:53.58 | timing | hello, is there a powerpc related debian channel? |
| 00:53.58 | jcarr | the sound does not :( |
| 00:54.05 | jetscreamer | jcarr, i think there are sound codecs as well |
| 00:54.05 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 00:54.06 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ppc is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc |
| 00:54.08 | solemnwarning | but it didnt detect my monitor |
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| 00:54.25 | timing | abrotman: thanx |
| 00:54.26 | jcarr | jetscreamer, any idea which ones I need to apt-get? |
| 00:54.28 | solemnwarning | is there a command to reconfig x? |
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| 00:54.33 | jcarr | I guess I'll apt-get xine and totem |
| 00:54.36 | jcarr | and try them |
| 00:54.41 | jetscreamer | jcarr, if you have marillat, apt-get install w32codecs |
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| 00:55.00 | jetscreamer | i use xine-ui personally |
| 00:55.17 | jcarr | I just downloaded the w series finales of StarGate... wanna watch em :) |
| 00:55.20 | jetscreamer | totem-xine didn't like dual monitors much |
| 00:55.24 | jcarr | s/w/2/g |
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| 00:55.34 | jetscreamer | jcarr, i have the entire 8 seasons |
| 00:55.37 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 00:55.59 | keithr | is there a command line cd player apt-get package? how do I found out? |
| 00:56.04 | jcarr | jetscreamer, I was amazed when I discovered that GB shows episodes before SciFi in the US does |
| 00:56.13 | jetscreamer | cplay keithr |
| 00:56.14 | streuner | keithr: try 'cdcd' |
| 00:56.17 | jcarr | I am currently getting the season finale of Battlestar Galactica too :P |
| 00:56.25 | jetscreamer | jcarr, yeah i found that out last week, i didn't know |
| 00:56.30 | keithr | thx X 2 |
| 00:56.58 | jetscreamer | jcarr, but i hate that gb logo in the top left :/ |
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| 00:57.05 | jetscreamer | something one |
| 00:57.10 | jcarr | skyone |
| 00:57.13 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 00:57.16 | jcarr | and it is on it all the time |
| 00:57.18 | jetscreamer | gets in the way |
| 00:57.21 | resiak | !drxx solemnwarning |
| 00:57.21 | dpkg | solemnwarning: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 00:57.21 | jcarr | :( |
| 00:57.22 | jetscreamer | :/ |
| 00:57.32 | jcarr | I wish the same for Enterprise. Enterprise has gotten suprisingly good recently.. I wanna see more episodes :) |
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| 00:57.46 | davis_ | I downloaded the helix player from debian and then tried to watch a real player file in streaming mode in firefox. |
| 00:57.54 | jetscreamer | solemnwarning, choose medium, or know your monitors refresh rates(vert&horiz) |
| 00:57.54 | davis_ | but I got an error about the format is not supported. |
| 00:58.00 | davis_ | "the content is not supported by realplayer" |
| 00:58.02 | resiak | davis_: And, amazingly, the Helix player doesn't do REal. |
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| 00:58.09 | resiak | davis_: Which explains why it doesn't do Real. |
| 00:58.17 | resiak | davis_: Go read the Helix website. |
| 00:58.39 | davis_ | i thought the helix player was supposed to play real video files |
| 00:58.41 | abrotman | !helixplayer |
| 00:58.41 | dpkg | i heard helix player is the Helix Community's GTK2-based open source media player that can read Real formats, in Sid and Sarge. apt-get install helix-player or https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/unix/ |
| 00:58.46 | abrotman | davis_: read the faq |
| 00:58.49 | abrotman | wait .. wtf |
| 00:58.53 | jcarr | jetscreamer, just curious... downloading TV episodes isn't illegal, is it? |
| 00:58.55 | resiak | That factoid is _wrong_. |
| 00:58.57 | jetscreamer | jcarr, isohunt.com seems to be the new badboy on the block |
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| 00:59.02 | resiak | jcarr: IF you download them illegally,. yes. |
| 00:59.03 | abrotman | !helix-player |
| 00:59.03 | dpkg | i heard helix player is the Helix Community's GTK2-based open source media player that can read Real formats, in Sid and Sarge. apt-get install helix-player or https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/unix/ |
| 00:59.04 | jetscreamer | jcarr, yes it is |
| 00:59.07 | abrotman | i give up |
| 00:59.19 | jetscreamer | depending on what country you're in |
| 00:59.20 | jcarr | why? I'd see them on TV for free anyway...? |
| 00:59.21 | resiak | The factoid is definitely wrong. |
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| 00:59.36 | streuner | fix it then |
| 00:59.39 | abrotman | davis_: there's a faq on that site .. shows you what formats it supports |
| 00:59.39 | jcarr | just I'd have to wait a month :) |
| 00:59.42 | jetscreamer | jcarr, yeah i know. i don't d/l movies or programs, but it's still illegal. |
| 00:59.48 | abrotman | resiak: no . it does some of them |
| 00:59.54 | abrotman | resiak: but not all of them |
| 00:59.57 | resiak | abrotman: I see. |
| 00:59.59 | jetscreamer | i figure if i can watch it why can't i d/l it |
| 01:00.05 | jetscreamer | instead of tape it |
| 01:00.16 | resiak | jcarr, jetscreamer: The same way that you can't download songs just because you hear them on the radio. |
| 01:00.33 | streuner | heh, Real have different codecs? |
| 01:00.44 | abrotman | streuner: yeah .. or streaming .. or whatever |
| 01:00.45 | jetscreamer | but it's not illegal to record the show. |
| 01:00.53 | jetscreamer | just to share it. |
| 01:00.57 | jcarr | that's different though... you can go buy an album of those songs |
| 01:01.07 | resiak | jetscreamer: Yes, so ... you can't share the song, nor can you share the show. |
| 01:01.12 | jcarr | I'd have to wait a year or two to get the DVD set |
| 01:01.13 | resiak | WOW! What an amazing coincidence. |
| 01:01.39 | davis_ | one of the things odd about the helix-player package is that it says it includes the mozilla plugin as well. |
| 01:01.41 | jetscreamer | and there are many albums i've purchased that i don't have anymore, lost and/or stolen... yet still i suspect it's illegal for me to get them |
| 01:01.48 | resiak | jetscreamer: Yes, it is. |
| 01:01.58 | davis_ | i only see the /usr/bin/ version. |
| 01:02.08 | resiak | jetscreamer: Or at least it is in the UK, but then most things (like ripping CD) are illegal in the UK. |
| 01:02.19 | davis_ | i wonder if my problem is that is a problem with streaming or something. |
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| 01:02.28 | peterS | jetscreamer: for the case of CDs I have lost, broken or had stolen, I don't feel there's anything wrong with 'replacing' my copy online |
| 01:02.31 | resiak | davis_: You need to actually get the Real codecs. |
| 01:02.32 | peterS | jetscreamer: never mind if it's legal or not |
| 01:02.45 | jetscreamer | peterS, my thoughts exactly. |
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| 01:02.49 | davis_ | resiak: ok. that makes sense. |
| 01:03.00 | resiak | davis_: Yes, I suppose it does. |
| 01:03.47 | jetscreamer | but then, that makes me feel that it's ok to d/l tv shows i missed, but could have watched at home. |
| 01:03.56 | jetscreamer | which is, once again, illegal. |
| 01:04.02 | jstevens | why would Synaptic install packages (bootsplash themes), only place directories on the system but no files? |
| 01:04.07 | abrotman | peterS: you have the same argument i do . i have about 200 cassettes .. why should i have to buy the CD again? |
| 01:04.30 | jetscreamer | hell i forgot about the cassettes i don't have any of anymore |
| 01:04.35 | streuner | if you haven't an orginal CD its illegal |
| 01:04.45 | abrotman | i have the orginal cassette |
| 01:04.49 | abrotman | or vinyl |
| 01:05.01 | resiak | streuner: That depends on your country. |
| 01:05.02 | jetscreamer | hell i got vinyl too |
| 01:05.04 | abrotman | or both .. why should i have to buy the CD again |
| 01:05.07 | streuner | that's ok here in germany... |
| 01:05.15 | resiak | streuner: It's not okay here in the Uk. |
| 01:05.24 | jetscreamer | shit there's lots more to download! |
| 01:05.28 | streuner | resiak: exactly (germany) |
| 01:05.34 | resiak | streuner: Exactly (UK) ;-) |
| 01:05.39 | streuner | hehe |
| 01:05.44 | jcarr | jetscreamer, thanks! that works! |
| 01:05.45 | me | installing nvidia drivers - huge huge headache |
| 01:05.55 | resiak | !tell \me about nvidia-howto |
| 01:05.59 | abrotman | oh .. please do a /me me |
| 01:06.05 | resiak | :D |
| 01:06.09 | jetscreamer | me, not really, the headache is learning how... :) |
| 01:06.25 | me | i did everything, and now it wont work! |
| 01:06.31 | resiak | !doesn't work |
| 01:06.31 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 01:06.42 | jetscreamer | yeah but next time, don't do everything wrong |
| 01:06.55 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 01:07.07 | me | i did everything the Devian-nVidia HOWTO told me to, and now it wont work |
| 01:07.21 | bucky | deviate |
| 01:07.52 | abrotman | HOW DOESN"T IT WORK? |
| 01:08.18 | me | um, shoot, ill tell you in a sec |
| 01:08.21 | resiak | WTF? |
| 01:08.23 | abrotman | i hate it when my omniscient glasses don't work .. and i need help figuring out your problem |
| 01:08.35 | resiak | abrotman: You should get your prescription checked. |
| 01:08.44 | me | when booting it has trouble with the video device, thus causing the screen device to not work and x wont start |
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| 01:08.51 | abrotman | resiak: i was just at the doc last month |
| 01:08.51 | resiak | !trouble |
| 01:08.51 | dpkg | hmm... trouble is double trouble, or double double |
| 01:09.08 | abrotman | !double double |
| 01:09.10 | Xenguy | Hi - I have a spamassassin question related to the upgrade from 2.x to 3.0 -- in /usr/share/docs/spamassassin/UPGRADE.gz it says the following about Bayesian changes: "run "sa-learn --rebuild", this will sync your journal. if you skip this step, any data from the journal will be lost when the DB is upgraded." The very next instruction is: "upgrade SA to 3.0.0". My question is: did I lose anything (since all I did was the familiar 'apt-get install spamassassin') |
| 01:09.11 | resiak | abrotman: Did you get a new omniscience prescription? |
| 01:09.11 | darxeth | does ethereal, technically, work as a firewall? |
| 01:09.21 | abrotman | resiak: fucker didn't have a new one |
| 01:09.35 | resiak | abrotman: Perhaps he traded it for acid :-) |
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| 01:09.47 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:10.12 | admin_ | hey guys, can anyone of you paste your sources.list? |
| 01:10.19 | abrotman | admin_: why? |
| 01:10.29 | admin_ | because i need it.. |
| 01:10.34 | abrotman | make your own |
| 01:10.36 | resiak | admin_: Why? |
| 01:10.54 | resiak | admin_: Why can't you just run apt-setup like the rest of us? |
| 01:11.00 | admin_ | yeah well... i dont know all which should be there.. |
| 01:11.00 | abrotman | !tell admin_ about apt-setup |
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| 01:11.58 | mike_ | hi, what would be the best way to implement virtual email accounts on debian? |
| 01:12.13 | abrotman | that depends on your mta |
| 01:12.32 | mike_ | Exim |
| 01:12.40 | mike_ | but i can change if need be |
| 01:12.44 | abrotman | wait .. what do you mean by virtual .. aliaes ? .. or real accounts? |
| 01:12.46 | me | so here are where the errors start when i run "startx" |
| 01:12.54 | abrotman | debhelper: get ready! |
| 01:13.08 | mike_ | virtual accounts, like info@blah.com and info@neeh.com |
| 01:13.17 | mike_ | hosted on the same machine |
| 01:13.24 | admin_ | guys, i knw that.. but i did a ubuntu install and they only have cdrom at sources... please paste it to me? |
| 01:13.28 | abrotman | mike_: that could be done with aliases i guess |
| 01:13.33 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 01:13.33 | dpkg | rumour has it, ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu |
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| 01:13.44 | abrotman | admin_: wrong damn channel |
| 01:13.55 | jcarr | whew.... I know this is nasty, but... |
| 01:14.02 | jcarr | I just took the biggest crap I ever seen |
| 01:14.08 | abrotman | !tmi |
| 01:14.08 | dpkg | tmi is probably too much information, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island |
| 01:14.15 | darxeth | would somebody tell me how can i use nessus on my system!?? |
| 01:14.15 | jcarr | sorry |
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| 01:14.24 | resiak | !ep |
| 01:14.24 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:14.25 | mike_ | abrotman: is there any docs on this? |
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| 01:14.26 | admin_ | i know its the wrong channel. but they dont have the sources list.. so im begging you, please post your list? |
| 01:14.36 | resiak | admin_: No! Get onto #ubuntu |
| 01:14.37 | ibe | mike_ what mail server are you using |
| 01:14.39 | abrotman | admin_: use apt-setup .. ask #ubuntu |
| 01:14.42 | resiak | admin_: Ubuntu is not Debian. |
| 01:14.49 | abrotman | debian is not ubuntu |
| 01:14.50 | me | (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! |
| 01:14.59 | abrotman | me: #nvidia |
| 01:15.09 | ibe | me modprobe nvidia |
| 01:15.09 | admin_ | resiak, yeah it is, its an deriative... |
| 01:15.17 | jcarr | where did that uget that name? |
| 01:15.19 | resiak | FTLOG |
| 01:15.19 | jcarr | UBUNTU!! |
| 01:15.19 | quitte | admin_: a debian sources.list would break your system anyhow |
| 01:15.20 | abrotman | !based on debian |
| 01:15.20 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. |
| 01:15.21 | mike_ | ibe: Qpopper and Exim |
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| 01:15.35 | abrotman | admin_: really .. not debian .. really .. go to #ubuntu |
| 01:15.35 | jcarr | is Ubuntu some African word or something? |
| 01:15.39 | abrotman | jcarr: yes |
| 01:15.40 | alus | how do I find out which gcc -l<thing> goes with which symbol? |
| 01:15.47 | abrotman | alus: #gcc |
| 01:15.49 | ibe | mike_ sorry only know qmail |
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| 01:16.06 | jcarr | abrotman, not debian? I could take ubuntu, change the apt sources to debian sid sources, and dist-upgrade to debian sid! |
| 01:16.06 | abrotman | mike_: #exim might know more .. or have a better idea |
| 01:16.10 | jcarr | hehehe |
| 01:16.13 | abrotman | jcarr: no .. you can't |
| 01:16.15 | me | abrotman: modprobe: Can't locate module nvidia |
| 01:16.20 | quitte | jcarr good luck |
| 01:16.24 | abrotman | me: then you've done something very wrong |
| 01:16.29 | ibe | me thats your problem |
| 01:16.34 | ibe | locate nvidia |
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| 01:16.42 | TheZanke | how do i start mysql in debian |
| 01:16.47 | ibe | or find / -name nvidia -print |
| 01:16.49 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/mysql restart ? |
| 01:16.53 | mike_ | abrotman: i came in here wondering if there is a debian way to do it ;-) |
| 01:17.23 | abrotman | mike_: well .. i'm just saying that i don't know exim well enough . it may have a very slick way to do it .. #exim might know .. but we might not |
| 01:17.32 | TheZanke | man, something isn't working |
| 01:17.59 | jetscreamer | me. you need a line in /etc/modules.conf that reads: alias char-major-195 nvidia <--do you have one? |
| 01:18.04 | me | tell me about it |
| 01:18.09 | mike_ | abrotman: its ok, dw |
| 01:18.10 | abrotman | oh god |
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| 01:18.34 | abrotman | wtf is dw ? |
| 01:18.36 | ibe | me how did you go about building the module? |
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| 01:18.43 | abrotman | !nvidia one liner |
| 01:18.43 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install build-essential module-assistant && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. You need contrib and non-free in your sources.list first! You currently need unstable/sid sources, not just testing/sarge. see <quick sid/sarge mix> |
| 01:18.52 | abrotman | wtf is dw ? |
| 01:18.53 | LupoRosso | join #ubuntu |
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| 01:19.08 | resiak | abrotman: Don't worry. |
| 01:19.15 | jetscreamer | be happy |
| 01:19.27 | jetscreamer | quick |
| 01:19.41 | abrotman | jetscreamer: you're the brown bunny ? |
| 01:20.12 | jetscreamer | mayyy be |
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| 01:20.34 | abrotman | what is the name of that Gallo movie? |
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| 01:21.34 | me | jetscreamer: yes I do have that line |
| 01:21.53 | JoshTriplett | If I have two (or more) network interfaces bridged, only one of which is the actual network interface, it seems that the send/receive statistics are identical for all of them. Is there a way to prevent that, or is it inherent? |
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| 01:22.09 | me | ibe: i used some module-assistant |
| 01:22.20 | ibe | me what kernel are you running? |
| 01:22.21 | jetscreamer | me, .run or .deb |
| 01:22.33 | JoshTriplett | Also, is there any way to track the average amount of time between the bridge receiving a packet on one interface, and sending it out on the ethernet interface? |
| 01:22.35 | me | um.... not sure :s |
| 01:22.40 | ibe | uname -a |
| 01:22.45 | jetscreamer | debian sources or nvidia.com |
| 01:22.57 | me | 2.427 |
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| 01:23.03 | mrwill | hi, I want to compile a source package, but configure it differently than the default debian package. I've installed the build dependencies and the source package. now what? |
| 01:23.08 | ibe | unstable? |
| 01:23.08 | me | 2.4.27-1-386 |
| 01:23.16 | me | i believe so |
| 01:23.24 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.26 | JoshTriplett | mrwill: Edit debian/rules, find where it is configured, change it, run "debuild -us -uc". |
| 01:23.30 | me | jetscreamer: all using apt-get |
| 01:23.36 | jetscreamer | or make install |
| 01:23.56 | TheZanke | GOT IT TO WORK!!! YAY |
| 01:24.01 | JoshTriplett | jetscreamer: Actually, you're thinking of "./configure ; make ; make install". However, that's not what he wants. |
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| 01:24.04 | ibe | did you apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.4.27-1-386 nvidia-glx-dev nvidia-kernel-common and teh headers for your kernel? |
| 01:24.12 | jetscreamer | oh. thanks JoshTriplett |
| 01:24.14 | JoshTriplett | mrwill: What package? |
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| 01:24.22 | mrwill | JoshTriplett: php4-cgi |
| 01:24.25 | abrotman | nvidia sucks .. buy Cirrus Logic |
| 01:24.28 | JoshTriplett | mrwill: Ah. |
| 01:24.37 | JoshTriplett | abrotman: nVidia sucks, buy ATI. :) |
| 01:24.39 | rixth | We all know that RealPlayer for Windows is spyware ridden, but how is the linux version? |
| 01:24.47 | JoshTriplett | abrotman: (For values of ATI less than 9200. :) ) |
| 01:24.50 | jetscreamer | nvidia works just fine here. |
| 01:24.56 | me | ibe: yes i did |
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| 01:25.06 | abrotman | rixth: uhm .. the Real Player for windows isn't spyware ridden |
| 01:25.06 | jetscreamer | better than what i had, that's for sure |
| 01:25.09 | solemnwarning | hi all again] |
| 01:25.16 | ibe | me so it seems as something messed up when building the modules |
| 01:25.20 | solemnwarning | im trying to mount some samba shares |
| 01:25.21 | abrotman | rixth: /msg dpkg info helixplayer |
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| 01:25.25 | JoshTriplett | rixth: Basically irrelevant; you just want the codecs. |
| 01:25.25 | jetscreamer | real player has been spyware ridden since 2.0 or so |
| 01:25.30 | abrotman | err |
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| 01:25.33 | solemnwarning | but i keep getting this error: |
| 01:25.35 | abrotman | rixth: /msg dpkg info helix-player |
| 01:25.42 | solemnwarning | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.1/TEMP, |
| 01:25.42 | solemnwarning | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.44 | me | ibe: im going to try a pre-made module, now that i have apt working properly again |
| 01:25.50 | solemnwarning | does any1 know whats goin on? |
| 01:25.54 | abrotman | rixth: it's open srouce .. but read the faq about supported filetypes |
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| 01:25.59 | abrotman | !any1 |
| 01:25.59 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 01:26.04 | JoshTriplett | abrotman: That's not what he meant. :) |
| 01:26.14 | JoshTriplett | abrotman: Presumably he meant the actual RealONE player from their site. |
| 01:26.18 | JoshTriplett | abrotman: Including the codecs. |
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| 01:26.26 | abrotman | jetscreamer: not spyware like today .. yes it reports to real what real streams you watch .. but not everywhere you go |
| 01:26.44 | solemnwarning | any1? |
| 01:26.50 | jetscreamer | me, there are no 'pre-made' modules, they get compiled on_installation... (there's old exceptions, but not valid fo rthis) |
| 01:26.53 | JoshTriplett | rixth: Get the appropriate player for your environment, such as totem for GNOME, or kaffeine for KDE, and then if you want realplayer support, you'll have to get the appropriate binary-only codecs. |
| 01:27.19 | JoshTriplett | rixth: But you'll find that a much more satisfactory solution than realplayer. |
| 01:27.45 | jetscreamer | no of course the spyware codes have progressed.. it's big business, they get freaky on you if they can |
| 01:27.55 | me | ibe: the last line of installing the pre-made modules was "depmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-1-386/nvidia/nvidia.o" |
| 01:27.57 | JoshTriplett | Is there any way to track the average amount of time between receiving a packet on one network interface, and sending it out on another interface? |
| 01:28.15 | abrotman | me: that's bad |
| 01:28.19 | ibe | me depmod -a |
| 01:28.20 | jetscreamer | me, did you try googling that error msg? i know for a fact it's there. |
| 01:28.32 | ibe | modprobe nvidia |
| 01:28.47 | jetscreamer | me, it's also discussed on nvidia.com, and iirc the README.txt from nvidia |
| 01:28.56 | quitte | JoshTriplett: is that some sort of quantum physics? send after receive? |
| 01:29.01 | me | depmod -a gave the same thing |
| 01:29.17 | rixth | JoshTriplett: I heard that the codecs have been pulled from all online sources |
| 01:29.24 | ibe | i would redo teh building of the module again |
| 01:29.27 | rixth | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.36 | abrotman | rixth: no space in front |
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| 01:29.55 | Feiten | How do i install "gmake"? |
| 01:30.04 | abrotman | !b-e |
| 01:30.04 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 01:30.06 | abrotman | maybe ? |
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| 01:30.15 | abrotman | Feiten: install the package that has it |
| 01:30.15 | jetscreamer | me, perhaps you should consider updating your kernel first |
| 01:30.23 | jetscreamer | via apt-get |
| 01:30.29 | ibe | thats a good idea |
| 01:30.36 | Feiten | abrotman: What pack is it? Thats what i dont find. |
| 01:30.37 | ibe | if you are running unstable go 2.6.10 |
| 01:30.49 | ibe | i just installed that and the nvidia driver last week |
| 01:30.52 | ibe | no issues |
| 01:30.57 | me | ibe: modprob nividia gave out a laundry list of /lib...nvidia.o: /lib...nvidia.o: unresolved symbol devfs_register_Rff038ff5 |
| 01:30.58 | rixth | I'm taking a look at Helix Player now. |
| 01:31.09 | jetscreamer | devfs? |
| 01:31.20 | abrotman | !tell Feiten about search |
| 01:31.36 | Feiten | abrotman: I cant find it, i have searched.. |
| 01:31.45 | Feiten | Does anyone know what pack that has gmake? |
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| 01:31.55 | jetscreamer | ah. udev once had a thing about nvidia iirc |
| 01:32.00 | abrotman | !find bin/gmake |
| 01:32.05 | darxeth | i apt-get installed hping2 on my computer, but when i write hping2 in the terminal it tells me command not found... does someone have any idea of how to run hping2? |
| 01:32.07 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/gmake' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/gmake5) in science/grass. |
| 01:32.07 | me | ibe: how do i upgrade to the 2.6.`0? |
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| 01:32.18 | abrotman | Feiten: got it ? |
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| 01:32.29 | jetscreamer | !real kernel |
| 01:32.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, real kernel is The Debian install kernels are meant for just that: installing. If you want things like wide module support and netfilter, install a proper kernel. 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386' will see you through, if you have no idea. something you should compile yourself for maximum performance First though, do apt-cache search kernel-image- . woody install kernels have several known vulnerabilities, including local |
| 01:32.30 | ibe | me hold |
| 01:32.43 | jetscreamer | damn that's OLD |
| 01:32.47 | Feiten | abrotman: gmake5? |
| 01:33.19 | abrotman | Feiten: i guess .. i don't even know what gmake is :) |
| 01:33.23 | darxeth | help please!? |
| 01:33.33 | Feiten | abrotman: I cant even find that pack :s |
| 01:33.35 | abrotman | no .. no help here! |
| 01:33.37 | jetscreamer | !find gmake |
| 01:33.44 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gmake' (5 shown; 6 total): (/usr/bin/gmake5) in science/grass ;; (/usr/share/a2ps/sheets/gmake.ssh) in text/a2ps ;; (/usr/share/doc/smake/README.gmake) in devel/smake ;; (/usr/share/doc/cdrtools-doc/cdrecord/README.gmake) in doc/cdrtools-doc ;; (/usr/bin/cfgmaker, /usr/share/doc/mrtg/cfgmaker.txt.gz, /usr/share/doc/mrtg/html/cfgmaker.html) in net/mrtg. |
| 01:33.48 | abrotman | Feiten: which version of debian ? |
| 01:34.00 | abrotman | what is gmake supposed to do ? |
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| 01:34.10 | Feiten | abrotman: Sarge |
| 01:34.19 | Feiten | Compile eggdrop whith ipv6 |
| 01:34.22 | abrotman | !info grass sarge |
| 01:34.30 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:34.56 | abrotman | !why is grass not in testing |
| 01:34.57 | dpkg | grass is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=grass |
| 01:35.03 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 01:35.10 | me | so, why am i going to 2.6.10 again? |
| 01:35.20 | jetscreamer | me, are you on sid or sarge |
| 01:35.21 | abrotman | jetscreamer: yes .. i suppose that is funny |
| 01:35.26 | digital_ | bn tout le monde :) |
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| 01:35.36 | jetscreamer | abrotman, just the fact that it worked is what i find funny |
| 01:35.47 | me | im on unstable i believe (i did a net install, and the installer has hardware detection, if that helps) |
| 01:35.52 | solemnwarning | in fedora i could run command "service servicename start\stop\restart" |
| 01:35.52 | jetscreamer | !factinfo why is grass not in testing |
| 01:35.52 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as why is grass not in testing, jetscreamer |
| 01:35.58 | alus | why can't I have "mesag3" installed at the same time as "xlibmesa-gl" and "xlibmesa-gl-dev"? |
| 01:36.01 | me | i got the installer from people on here |
| 01:36.01 | solemnwarning | is there a simmaler command for debian? |
| 01:36.07 | abrotman | !factinfo why is $1 not in testing |
| 01:36.07 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as why is $1 not in testing, abrotman |
| 01:36.12 | abrotman | bah .. |
| 01:36.14 | abrotman | dpkg: fuck off |
| 01:36.19 | solemnwarning | ?? |
| 01:36.21 | bob2 | solemnwarning: invoke-rc.d. |
| 01:36.22 | alus | this is really making dev difficult - I have to switch libraries to compile and then run |
| 01:36.24 | jetscreamer | ah ok it's a cmd |
| 01:36.30 | abrotman | jetscreamer: yeah .. like |
| 01:36.33 | jetscreamer | not a fractoid |
| 01:36.36 | abrotman | !why is jetscreamer not in testing |
| 01:36.37 | dpkg | jetscreamer is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=jetscreamer |
| 01:36.42 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 01:36.59 | jetscreamer | oh it's not a lookup :/ |
| 01:37.04 | abrotman | !why is my ass not in testing |
| 01:37.04 | dpkg | my ass is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=my ass |
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| 01:37.13 | abrotman | !stupid bot tricks |
| 01:37.13 | dpkg | Watching someone play with the bots gets old pretty fast. If you really *must* do it, don't do it here. Use /msg. |
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| 01:38.00 | solemnwarning | invoke: command not found |
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| 01:38.14 | rixth | abrotman: I downloaded the HelixPlayer & Real codecs, will I be able to play embedded RealMedia stuff? (like trailers on IMDB) |
| 01:38.16 | bob2 | solemnwarning: er |
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| 01:38.22 | bob2 | solemnwarning: that's not what I said |
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| 01:38.36 | abrotman | rixth: read the faq on the helix player site .. it will tell you |
| 01:38.41 | abrotman | !helix-player |
| 01:38.41 | dpkg | hmm... helix player is the Helix Community's GTK2-based open source media player that can read Real formats, in Sid and Sarge. apt-get install helix-player or https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/unix/ |
| 01:38.52 | abrotman | rixth: https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/unix/helixrealfaq.html |
| 01:39.03 | rixth | Tanks |
| 01:39.13 | solemnwarning | ?? |
| 01:39.30 | solemnwarning | bob2 solemnwarning: invoke-rc.d. |
| 01:39.40 | solemnwarning | u didnt say that? |
| 01:39.43 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:39.43 | dpkg | It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:39.57 | bob2 | solemnwarning: and then you typed 'invoke'. |
| 01:40.02 | bob2 | solemnwarning: invoke-rc.d != invoke. |
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| 01:40.26 | ibe | me apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.10-1-386 kernel-headers-2.6.10-1-386 nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev nvidia-kernel-source |
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| 01:40.30 | solemnwarning | so how do i start webmin? |
| 01:40.34 | simonrvn | solemnwarning: case sensitive OS. get used to it |
| 01:40.43 | ibe | me then read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian and use Method #1 |
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| 01:40.53 | rixth | abrotman: the Helix FAQ doesn't answer my question (not that I can see anyway) |
| 01:41.01 | abrotman | rixth: yes it does |
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| 01:41.28 | dabreegster | Totally off topic, but I'm looking for some good <$100 speakers that can go loud without distortion. Also, would an onboard soundcard (ESS Allegro-1 using alsa) affect quality with decent speakers? |
| 01:41.34 | abrotman | rixth: there are two questions you need |
| 01:41.36 | C5Hardtop | i just installe helix player, its cool |
| 01:41.39 | spdf | Hey fellas...Might someone have an idea as to why I can only login to squirrelmail with root...its being "funky"... |
| 01:41.40 | abrotman | Q. What media types and protocols does Helix Player support? |
| 01:41.44 | abrotman | Q. What media types does RealPlayer support? |
| 01:42.03 | simonrvn | A. this isn't #shopping |
| 01:42.34 | abrotman | simonrvn: que pasa? |
| 01:42.52 | rixth | Thats not what I want to know, I want to know if I go to IMDB and try to watcha trailer, whether it will play within the webpage or it will have to load Helix externally |
| 01:42.53 | simonrvn | too much, as usual |
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| 01:43.15 | abrotman | rixth: oh .. not sure .. i htink some of the plugins work |
| 01:43.26 | dabreegster | Also, anyone have experience with a Trident Cyberblade video card and certain svgalib resolutions? |
| 01:43.29 | abrotman | rixth: it depends on the file type .. which imdb site? |
| 01:43.31 | BucWheat | cafuego you still around ? |
| 01:43.35 | simonrvn | rp10 works better than helix |
| 01:43.36 | rixth | I'll give it a go and report back |
| 01:43.45 | jetscreamer | speakers make a world of difference, no matter what card |
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| 01:43.48 | rixth | (which I shou;d've done first :)) |
| 01:43.53 | abrotman | rixth: which page? |
| 01:43.53 | Fackamato | Hi |
| 01:44.02 | me | weee.... ok, so i updated the kernel, rebooted, installed the new headers, and now im rebuilding the module |
| 01:44.06 | cafuego | BucWheat: No, I'm not. |
| 01:44.08 | abrotman | simonrvn: agreed |
| 01:44.09 | directhex | rixth, realplayer 10 for linux _IS_ helixplayer with the real codecs. |
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| 01:44.20 | abrotman | directhex: yes .. but those codecs are nice :) |
| 01:44.21 | rixth | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386588/trailers-screenplay-X26347-6-3 |
| 01:44.37 | Fackamato | Anyone know how to make a simple bash script/loop? I don't know the syntax, but something like for $1 in bla, do bla, next $1 |
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| 01:44.40 | simonrvn | directhex, abrotman: they actually work ;) |
| 01:44.45 | BucWheat | cafuego i just finished installing sarge on my new hardware and wanted to know if you would be around to help me get comedi-source (debian package) installed and working |
| 01:44.52 | dondelelcaro | Fackamato: while 1; do sleep 5s; done; |
| 01:44.56 | abrotman | yeah .. see i get .. bad transport crap with helix player |
| 01:45.01 | simonrvn | Fackamato: for i in foo; do bar; done |
| 01:45.04 | solemnwarning | why did i have to use alien to install rpm? |
| 01:45.08 | FieldySnuts | you suck |
| 01:45.11 | directhex | simonrvn, abrotman, it worked well enough for the HItchhiker's Guide radioness |
| 01:45.13 | simonrvn | Fackamato: for i in foo; do bar $i; done |
| 01:45.13 | cafuego | BucWheat: No, I'm heading off for thwe weekend shortly, won't be back until late tomorrow (my time). |
| 01:45.16 | jetscreamer | solemnwarning, because it functions well |
| 01:45.19 | dondelelcaro | s/1/echo 1/ |
| 01:45.22 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird_: start a package war |
| 01:45.24 | BucWheat | cafuego what is your time ? |
| 01:45.25 | Fackamato | thanks |
| 01:45.27 | directhex | solemnwarning, what rpm, exactly? |
| 01:45.27 | solemnwarning | so why can apt-get get rpm?? |
| 01:45.30 | cafuego | BucWheat: EST |
| 01:45.31 | solemnwarning | webmin rpm |
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| 01:45.35 | BucWheat | cafuego k |
| 01:45.35 | dabreegster | solemnwarning: because apt wont directly recognize rpm |
| 01:45.36 | solemnwarning | i think alient fucked up |
| 01:45.40 | bob2 | solemnwarning: er, because Debian is based on .deb |
| 01:45.43 | bob2 | solemnwarning: then file a bu |
| 01:45.44 | bob2 | g |
| 01:45.52 | jetscreamer | ask 100 programmers how to code somethig and you'll get 100 different answers |
| 01:45.55 | abrotman | directhex: all depends on which format they use that day |
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| 01:46.03 | cafuego | solemnwarning: Because 'alien' depends on it. |
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| 01:46.17 | cafuego | wenas! |
| 01:46.21 | alus | how do I change the SMTP server that reportbug detects? |
| 01:46.24 | rixth | No, doesn't work for me. In either Firefox or Opera. |
| 01:46.28 | Penix | wenas |
| 01:46.30 | bob2 | alus: read the manpage |
| 01:46.32 | bob2 | \/win175 |
| 01:46.32 | jetscreamer | edit /etc/reportbug.conf |
| 01:46.36 | cafuego | alus: Edit reportbug.conf |
| 01:46.52 | simonrvn | @test2 |
| 01:46.52 | simonrvn | ffs... |
| 01:46.53 | ravenbird_ | No, i'm not online anymore. |
| 01:46.53 | cafuego | bob2: You have 175 windows open? |
| 01:46.54 | alus | cafuego: thanks |
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| 01:46.59 | simonrvn | lagging... |
| 01:47.00 | ibe | me |
| 01:47.03 | bob2 | cafuego: 207 |
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| 01:47.14 | simonrvn | bob2: O_O |
| 01:47.17 | jetscreamer | you madman you |
| 01:47.29 | buu | bob2: .. why? |
| 01:47.33 | cafuego | bob2: That's unhealthy. |
| 01:47.36 | bob2 | because people keep /msg'ing me |
| 01:48.01 | dabreegster | bob2: sitting in a warez channel? |
| 01:48.07 | simonrvn | cafuego: almost done the apache2-build |
| 01:48.07 | bob2 | yeah, exactly |
| 01:48.49 | alus | cafuego: the bad smtp server is not listed in that conf file |
| 01:48.50 | me | NOOOOOOOOOO....... |
| 01:48.52 | me | same problem |
| 01:48.54 | abrotman | yessss |
| 01:49.02 | bob2 | alus: yes, you need to put it there |
| 01:49.05 | simonrvn | MAYBEEEEEEEEEE |
| 01:49.09 | bob2 | or read the manpage and pass it on the command line |
| 01:49.11 | ibe | me did you reboot to the new kernel |
| 01:49.20 | alus | I know I can set it manually there, but where is it getting the smtp server from otherwise? |
| 01:49.24 | cafuego | simonrvn: Joy? :-) |
| 01:49.34 | alus | bob2: it's getting an old smtp server without me specifying anything |
| 01:49.37 | simonrvn | cafuego: soon. still building :/ |
| 01:49.38 | alus | where is it getting it drom? |
| 01:49.42 | alus | s/drom/from/ |
| 01:49.43 | cafuego | alus: From your own smtp sevrer in yiour mta cfg. |
| 01:49.55 | me | ibe: i rebooted before making the module, as well as after |
| 01:49.57 | cafuego | s/typos/fixed/ |
| 01:50.16 | alus | heh |
| 01:50.20 | alus | which config? |
| 01:50.20 | ibe | modprobe nvidia is the same thing |
| 01:50.28 | alus | grep -i bad.net /etc/* returns nothing |
| 01:50.29 | cafuego | alus: your mta config |
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| 01:50.33 | ibe | you are in the 2.6.10 kernel now correct |
| 01:50.37 | alus | where's that? |
| 01:50.40 | cafuego | alus: rgrep -i bad.net /etc |
| 01:51.03 | cafuego | alus: I don't know what MTA you run, so I really don't know. |
| 01:51.05 | me | Module nvidia not found |
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| 01:51.42 | simonrvn | that's not funny |
| 01:51.50 | cafuego | BucWheat: Also get the matching kernel source (for the kernel you're running) and use make-kpkg. |
| 01:52.01 | xnotte | anyone can tell me if "zip" format its proprietary ? |
| 01:52.05 | solemnwarning | any1 know how i should start webmin? |
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| 01:52.11 | BucWheat | cafuego i just finished bunzip'ing kernel-source-2.6.8 now |
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| 01:52.16 | cafuego | xnotte: it's not free. |
| 01:52.16 | ibe | me locate nvidia.ko |
| 01:52.20 | simonrvn | solemnwarning: dpkg -P webmin |
| 01:52.21 | alus | cafuego: that rgrep didn't find anything |
| 01:52.30 | cafuego | alus: YOU BROKE IT! |
| 01:52.41 | simonrvn | cafuego: *grin* |
| 01:52.54 | solemnwarning | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove webmin which isn't installed. |
| 01:52.54 | dpkg | You are moron #23, solemnwarning |
| 01:52.57 | solemnwarning | <_< |
| 01:53.09 | cafuego | alus: Just set 'smtphost smtp.good.com' in reportbug.conf |
| 01:53.12 | simonrvn | ... |
| 01:53.13 | solemnwarning | alien said it had installed the rpm |
| 01:53.25 | cafuego | solemnwarning: Alien doesn't install RPMs. Ever. |
| 01:53.31 | simonrvn | wtf bother with rpms? |
| 01:53.34 | alus | cafuego: hmph |
| 01:53.43 | solemnwarning | cos most apps are rpm |
| 01:53.45 | me | hrmmmmmm....... where would i go from here? |
| 01:53.50 | cafuego | solemnwarning: Don't be a retard. |
| 01:53.50 | ibe | me locate nvidia.ko |
| 01:53.52 | BucWheat | cafuego how does this look: make-kpkg --initrd --revision 1 --append-to-version -2 kernel_image ? |
| 01:54.00 | cureless | solemnwarning: by most apps you mean the ones you download off redhat.com? |
| 01:54.06 | simonrvn | solemnwarning: in what universe? |
| 01:54.10 | cafuego | BucWheat: Apart from me thinking initrd is evil, fine. |
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| 01:54.12 | me | ibe: no output |
| 01:54.24 | ibe | so the module is _not_ building |
| 01:54.30 | BucWheat | cafuego i thought initrd was needed to load modules at boot ? |
| 01:54.37 | BucWheat | cafuego please correct me if i'm wrong |
| 01:54.38 | me | hrmmmm |
| 01:54.40 | simonrvn | no |
| 01:54.40 | cafuego | solemnwarning: 'apt-get install webmin' - no need to break your security with redhat pckages if you can do it with debian packages. |
| 01:54.41 | me | go figure |
| 01:54.42 | ibe | me hold |
| 01:54.44 | alus | ahah! ~/.reportbug.rc |
| 01:54.52 | cureless | BucWheat: it is _sometimes_ needed. Most people don't need it at all. |
| 01:54.54 | alus | er, s/\.// |
| 01:54.57 | cafuego | BucWheat: Not if you hardcode support for your ide controller and root fs. |
| 01:54.58 | alus | ack |
| 01:55.01 | simonrvn | only if you need them to actually mount things or have a RIADed / |
| 01:55.03 | alus | you know what I mean |
| 01:55.05 | simonrvn | RAID* |
| 01:55.18 | ibe | me you went threw method 1 in the README.Debian correct? |
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| 01:55.28 | cafuego | simonrvn: Even then you don't, if you hardcode it in (with real raid anyway) |
| 01:55.30 | simonrvn | (other situations too. but anyway) |
| 01:55.40 | Buzzons | how do you change from the woody repository to the cid repository? |
| 01:55.44 | simonrvn | cafuego: yeh. i'm talking s/w raid |
| 01:55.52 | cafuego | Buzzons: "not". |
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| 01:56.00 | simonrvn | Buzzons: if you have to ask, you don't |
| 01:56.21 | cafuego | Buzzons: You *will* break your system if you do that. |
| 01:56.21 | Buzzons | well i have to ask because i want to change it |
| 01:56.22 | cureless | Buzzons: do you really need sid? |
| 01:56.26 | Buzzons | yes |
| 01:56.27 | ibe | me it seems as if you are doing step 5 in method 1 wrong in the readme |
| 01:56.30 | cafuego | Buzzons: You *will* break your system if you do that. |
| 01:56.44 | me | ok lemme check out the readme |
| 01:56.50 | abrotman | if you say cid .. you lose |
| 01:56.53 | ibe | you havent read it? |
| 01:56.58 | cafuego | Buzzons: if you want newer software, use sarge. |
| 01:56.58 | BucWheat | cafuego i'm using sata, ide, and extfs3 |
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| 01:57.11 | Janet22 | hey guys i could use some help ;) |
| 01:57.13 | Buzzons | still way out of date |
| 01:57.15 | cafuego | BucWheat: All compiled as <*> or <M> ? |
| 01:57.19 | BucWheat | cafuego in order to hardcode in i would have to do make menuconfig and do Y for IDE, sata, ext3 ? |
| 01:57.33 | BucWheat | cafuego dunno just finished installing sarge with "linux26" |
| 01:57.34 | cafuego | Buzzons: Better out of date then unusable coz you don't know how to fix a simple problem. |
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| 01:57.51 | cafuego | BucWheat: I thought you were compiling your own kernel? |
| 01:57.52 | BucWheat | cafuego would config-2.6.8-1-386 tell me what i want? |
| 01:57.56 | Buzzons | i just dont know how to change the rep its using, doesnt mean i cant fix other things |
| 01:58.07 | BucWheat | cafuego yea i'm about to |
| 01:58.15 | cafuego | Buzzons: Invariable it does mean that. |
| 01:58.15 | solemnwarning | the webmin from apt-get dosnt have anything <_< |
| 01:58.24 | BucWheat | cafuego just make menuconfig ; then the make-kpkg line right? |
| 01:58.30 | Buzzons | well in this case it doesnt, as i have NEVER needed to change it, but now i want to |
| 01:58.31 | cafuego | solemnwarning: apt-cache searchw ebmin - lots of broken software. |
| 01:58.42 | Buzzons | i dont want php3 when i could be using php5 |
| 01:58.50 | Buzzons | i dotn want apache 1.x when i could be using apache 2.x |
| 01:58.56 | Janet22 | hey guys i could use some help with debian on my laptop. i have checked google but i cannot finde the answer :( on the old kernel cardmgr started automaticly...now on the new one it doesn't how can i fix that? |
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| 01:59.06 | bob2 | right |
| 01:59.09 | bob2 | newer = better |
| 01:59.10 | cafuego | Buzzons: There is no php5 in debian. In most cases apache 1.3 x is FASTER than 2.x ANy other questions? |
| 01:59.21 | simonrvn | afk/busy |
| 01:59.22 | bob2 | in fact, in english, "newer" is a synonym for "better" |
| 01:59.42 | cafuego | Buzzons: I'm NOT going to tell you how to break your box. use google or use woody. |
| 02:00.06 | jcarr | heh |
| 02:00.14 | jcarr | I broke my box bad alot of times :) |
| 02:00.16 | simonrvn | Buzzons: no comment... |
| 02:00.19 | Janet22 | =( does anybody know? |
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| 02:00.34 | jcarr | there's a certain thread on some forum, cant remember... titled... "Destructive fun with linux" |
| 02:00.38 | simonrvn | Janet22: more info |
| 02:00.41 | bob2 | Janet22: ask on the debian-user list |
| 02:00.53 | jcarr | using /dev/urandom to write directly to the disk for starters :) |
| 02:01.01 | jcarr | nad other nice tips :) |
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| 02:01.16 | _d4v3_ | hi |
| 02:01.29 | cafuego | jcarr: just to swap tends to suffice (you can at least reboot then) |
| 02:01.31 | Janet22 | simonrvn i rebuilt my kernel, on the old one cardmgr started automaticly and now with the new one i have to type cardmgr .. how can i set that up to start automaticly? |
| 02:01.33 | _d4v3_ | somebody can help me? |
| 02:01.55 | cafuego | Janet22: make sure /etc/init.d/pcmcia-cs runs at bootup. |
| 02:02.05 | Janet22 | ok! |
| 02:02.07 | Loevborg | Janet22, that doesn't sound right. |
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| 02:02.18 | _d4v3_ | I have an error when i'm booting my kernel |
| 02:02.25 | me | ibe: what readme are you talking about? |
| 02:02.29 | rixth | Whats the difference betwen jre and j2re, which do i want? (I need to run both Azereus (bittorrent client) and Java applets in webpages |
| 02:02.33 | me | ive been going off the Debian nVida HOWTO |
| 02:02.35 | Janet22 | how do i check that cafuego im in the /etc/init.d dir |
| 02:02.46 | BucWheat | cafuego where is IDE in menuconfig ? |
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| 02:02.57 | cafuego | Janet22: Easiest is to check for /etc/rc2.d/S*pcmcia-cs |
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| 02:03.06 | ibe | me /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian and use Method #1 |
| 02:03.10 | cafuego | BucWheat: BLock devices |
| 02:03.43 | Keith_ | ? |
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| 02:03.59 | BucWheat | cafuego so if i'm using IDE, sATA, extfs3 to boot and i set those to Y i should be able to boot without initrd ? |
| 02:04.11 | Janet22 | cafuego all i have in rc2.d/is k10xsession and s20binfmt-support? |
| 02:04.53 | jagerman | Chances are you don't need both IDE *and* SATA to boot |
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| 02:05.18 | ibe | me i hope you didnt expect it to work by installing the packages and rebooting?? |
| 02:05.23 | me | ibe: i dont see any instructions, my README.Debian is only 82 lines long |
| 02:05.36 | ibe | what you email |
| 02:05.49 | me | shaggs@berkeley.edu |
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| 02:06.02 | Janet22 | cafuego all i have in rc2.d/is k10xsession and s20binfmt-support? |
| 02:06.22 | Janet22 | is that right? =| |
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| 02:07.02 | me | ibe: um.... if im not supposed to install the packages and reboot, then what DO i do? |
| 02:07.23 | ibe | RTFM |
| 02:07.27 | ibe | i am emailing it to you |
| 02:07.28 | Aaton | anyone know the current status of development on a Debian installer that will let you configure LVM or Software Raid? or if there is such development even going on. |
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| 02:07.44 | me | it better be more informing than the Devian-nVidia HOWTO :P |
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| 02:08.08 | jcuk | Anyone know how id load linux onto my mp3 player and use it as a boot device at all? :) |
| 02:08.23 | me | why? |
| 02:08.23 | mark | is there any program for linux that would allow me to sync with a windows smart phone? |
| 02:08.28 | ibe | how about try the README.Debain in the same dir |
| 02:08.29 | rixth | Can someone give me the dkpg md5sum xfree turoail? |
| 02:08.31 | rixth | tutorial* |
| 02:08.38 | Janet22 | =( |
| 02:08.58 | me | i read the one in usr/share/docs/nvidia-glx/ |
| 02:09.04 | ibe | haha |
| 02:09.07 | dondelelcaro | !xmd5 |
| 02:09.11 | ibe | less /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian |
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| 02:09.17 | infodroid | mark: if the phone has an arm processor, install debian on it |
| 02:09.18 | ibe | method 1 |
| 02:09.21 | rixth | !xmd5 |
| 02:09.29 | rixth | rixth !xmd5 |
| 02:09.29 | mrwill | Aaton: think debian installer (new one for sarge) might let you configure raid, but not sure. |
| 02:09.31 | rixth | dpkg are you smoking crack? |
| 02:09.31 | dondelelcaro | x md5sum |
| 02:09.32 | dpkg | rixth: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 02:09.33 | dondelelcaro | !x md5sum |
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| 02:09.45 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 02:09.46 | rixth | !x md5sum |
| 02:09.47 | quitte | infodroid: could one still make calls then? |
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| 02:10.01 | infodroid | quitte: a toy is a toy, who needs calls |
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| 02:10.11 | Janet22 | im trying to get cardmgr to start up automaticly i will check what some one tells me and it looks different then no one talks to me any more :'( |
| 02:10.12 | Aaton | thanks, mrwill will have to check it out... |
| 02:10.13 | mark | infodroid i have no idea what kind of processor it has but i dont know anywhere near enough to undertake that kind of a project |
| 02:10.25 | quitte | infodroid: :( already have a jornada as a toy |
| 02:10.25 | infodroid | mark: on second thought check out multisync |
| 02:10.29 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: xmd5 is <reply> see x md5 sum |
| 02:10.29 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: okay |
| 02:10.42 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: no, xmd5 is <reply> see x md5sum |
| 02:10.42 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
| 02:10.45 | alejandro_ | something weird, I have a sidewinder gamepad connected to the game port, I have these modules in /etc/modules: evdev, gameport, joydev, analog, sidewinder (in that order) and I have udev. Everytime I try to create a /dev/js0 with MAKEDEV nothing happens |
| 02:11.01 | cafuego | Janet22: make sure 'pcmcia-cs' and 'rcconf' are installed. Run 'rcconf' and make sure pcmcia-cs is enabled. |
| 02:11.09 | xuser | How do i connect to a WM through XDCMP on the lan? |
| 02:11.28 | quitte | alejandro_: search for the device in /dev/input/ |
| 02:11.35 | Janet22 | cafuego YAY your back ..i do not have rcconf program =) |
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| 02:11.42 | cafuego | xuser: startx -- -query hostname |
| 02:11.51 | alejandro_ | quitte, nothing |
| 02:11.52 | cafuego | Janet22: So install it. |
| 02:11.53 | mrwill | Aaton: ask #debian-boot for more info, they will certainly know. |
| 02:12.01 | Janet22 | cafuego how ? |
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| 02:12.03 | alejandro_ | quitte, I've tried that |
| 02:12.10 | xuser | cafuego: ok |
| 02:12.19 | cafuego | Janet22: same way you install other stuff |
| 02:12.24 | quitte | alejandro_: makedev not working with udev is normal |
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| 02:12.48 | cafuego | alejandro_: /dev/input/* is where the joystick is. |
| 02:12.52 | quitte | alejandro_: what kind of gameport is it? |
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| 02:13.14 | alejandro_ | I get this message then booting; "Oops, please create some joystick device nodes with MAKEDEV fistStarting joystick device check: Starting systemm message bus: dbus-1" |
| 02:13.37 | mark | infodroid thanks that looks good, i wonder if it would let me sync to a mac or pc as well |
| 02:13.44 | cafuego | alejandro_: looks like 'input' isn't loaded. |
| 02:13.50 | alejandro_ | quitte, uhmmm a pci sound card (If that is what you asking :S ) |
| 02:14.14 | alejandro_ | uhmmm |
| 02:14.16 | infodroid | mark: stick with what works, i think if you have wild expectations you get disappointed |
| 02:14.38 | alejandro_ | modprobe input ==> FATAL: Module input not found |
| 02:14.43 | quitte | alejandro_: what card? emu10k1 for example has a special jsport driver |
| 02:14.45 | xuser | cafuego: I already have X running, how do i start in another display? |
| 02:14.54 | cafuego | xuser: startx -- -query hostname :1 |
| 02:15.09 | alejandro_ | quitte, Ensoniq ES1371 |
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| 02:15.40 | mark | infodroid true i am just trying to figure out some way to share data between my mac, my desktop (which as long as i can sync it with my phone i dont care what os i use) and my gf's laptop which has win xp and outlook |
| 02:15.43 | BucWheat | cafuego finished make menuconfig. what make_kpkg do you suggest using ? |
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| 02:16.06 | cafuego | BucWheat: Just what you always use. make-kpkg --revision foo.x kernel-image |
| 02:16.11 | BucWheat | cafuego make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -21805 kernel_image |
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| 02:16.26 | BucWheat | cafuego so i can take out the --append-to-version ? |
| 02:16.33 | cafuego | BucWheat: Either way |
| 02:16.37 | BucWheat | k |
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| 02:17.03 | BucWheat | cafuego i did'nt see a sata section but i enabled everything in SCSI that had SATA in it |
| 02:17.04 | BucWheat | heh |
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| 02:17.18 | cafuego | And when that's done, amke sure you have /usr/src/modules/comedi and (in the KERNEL TREE) run 'make-kpkg modules-image'. |
| 02:17.46 | cafuego | BucWheat: What will create a comedi-modules package for the current kernel. |
| 02:18.23 | BucWheat | cafuego s/what/that ? |
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| 02:18.35 | me | ack, what does this line mean? "cd /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel-debian/rules binary_modules" |
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| 02:20.24 | ChubSRV | hi I ran testdisk.. it gives me partition sector dosent have the endmark 0xAA55 run MBR code in testdisk to correct it.. if I do it can I render it unusable |
| 02:20.33 | ChubSRV | ? |
| 02:20.54 | solemnwarning | whats the command to mount a samba share in debian? |
| 02:20.59 | ibe | me cd /usr/src/module/nvidia-kernel |
| 02:21.22 | alejandro_ | cafuego, if input is not loaded, then the mouse and the keyboard should not be working right? |
| 02:21.25 | alejandro_ | :-\ |
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| 02:21.43 | ibe | me then type debian/rules binary_module |
| 02:23.26 | ChubSRV | hi I ran testdisk.. it gives me partition sector dosent have the endmark 0xAA55 run MBR code in testdisk to correct it.. if I do it can I render it unusable ?? |
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| 02:24.11 | alejandro_ | burp |
| 02:24.38 | me | here comes the moment of truth |
| 02:24.43 | me | *rebooting* |
| 02:25.23 | ibe | you will have to load the module by modprobe the first time |
| 02:25.23 | ibe | then edit modules.conf |
| 02:25.23 | ibe | or put it in your initrd |
| 02:25.23 | solemnwarning | whats the command to mount a samba share in debian? |
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| 02:25.28 | rixth | Someone join me in #flood for a Java problem? |
| 02:25.33 | ibe | mount -t smbfs |
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| 02:25.57 | alejandro_ | uhmmmmmmm |
| 02:25.59 | solemnwarning | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.1/TEMP, |
| 02:25.59 | solemnwarning | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.06 | solemnwarning | ? |
| 02:26.44 | rixth | dank posted his entire XFree86.log in #flood |
| 02:27.16 | dondelelcaro | rixth: use the paster bot then |
| 02:27.16 | cafuego | !eye rixth |
| 02:27.16 | dondelelcaro | !paster |
| 02:27.16 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste select #debian, and paste away. |
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| 02:27.32 | rixth | To lazy to do it yourself? :) |
| 02:27.43 | mark | is there any way to make outlook post and recieve info to a linux box like it would with exchange server |
| 02:28.27 | TheZanke | is there a way to search a .conf document with just vi? |
| 02:28.33 | me | uh oh..... nvidia: version magic '2.6.10-1 smp preempt pentium4 gcc3.3' should be '2.6.10-1-386 preempt 386 gcc-3.3' |
| 02:28.36 | cafuego | TheZanke: Yes |
| 02:28.53 | quitte | mark suse is selling something like that afaik |
| 02:29.03 | ibe | did you install teh smp kernel or driver? |
| 02:29.17 | TheZanke | cafuego: how? |
| 02:29.22 | me | ah fork i installed the wrong headers |
| 02:29.33 | cafuego | mark: Not exactly. You can make outlook use a Linux IMAP server or alternatively there's an exchange compatible project type thing in/with Evolution. |
| 02:29.34 | ibe | yea but it worked mostly |
| 02:29.51 | ibe | so you should be all set after you install the correct headres |
| 02:29.58 | mark | TheZanke i think that if you open the conf file with vi then type "/string" |
| 02:30.01 | ibe | you will have to do that method 1 again |
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| 02:31.11 | mark | cafuego i am looking for a way to make my linux box an exchange type server for calendars, contacts and task not so much a ways to sync the linux box with an exchange server (dont have the money or spare hardware for one of those) |
| 02:31.55 | cafuego | mark: Yes, there is such a thing. Not sure if it's out of beta yet. Google will be you friend. |
| 02:32.32 | rixth | Is there anyway to send messages between Linux & XP? Between XP & XP you could use net send, is there any Linux equivilent? |
| 02:32.53 | mark | cafuego can you suggest a search string i can try? |
| 02:32.54 | cafuego | rixth: linpopup |
| 02:33.03 | cafuego | rixth: any SANE XP box has that service disabled. |
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| 02:34.22 | pipeline | rixth: There's a version of "net send" for Linux, one that uses the Windows NT protocols, but I can't remember what it is. |
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| 02:35.17 | zu22 | dpkg has broken factoids for "install java" and "sid mozilla java", the "java" entry says to look up these 2 factoids but dpkg doesnt know about them, fyi channel admins :) |
| 02:35.17 | dpkg | You are moron #24, zu22 |
| 02:35.23 | zu22 | karsten: greets |
| 02:35.39 | paroneayea | think it's a bad idea to have two separate swap partitions? |
| 02:35.45 | zu22 | dpkg: stfu you broken blootbot twink! |
| 02:35.46 | dpkg | SHUT THE FUCK UP you broken blootbot twink!! |
| 02:35.50 | cafuego | mark: http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/ |
| 02:35.51 | pipeline | paroneayea: It's fine as long as you list them both in /etc/fstab |
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| 02:36.04 | zu22 | cafuego: greets |
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| 02:36.45 | zu22 | cafuego: noooooooo! oh the humanity |
| 02:36.50 | mark | cafuego thank you |
| 02:36.58 | cafuego | paroneayea: No, it's great, as long as they're not on the same disk (or controller, in case of IDE) |
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| 02:37.56 | paroneayea | okay thyen |
| 02:38.20 | karsten | zu22: Milk got? |
| 02:38.28 | cafuego | karsten: it does |
| 02:38.36 | zu22 | karsten: ja (: |
| 02:38.41 | paroneayea | I might just keep the old gentoo partitioning then... |
| 02:38.48 | cafuego | [13:37] [zu22(voltron@spam)] MOO :) |
| 02:39.01 | karsten | cafuego: ?? |
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| 02:39.07 | karsten | cafuego: Aah. |
| 02:39.11 | zu22 | cafuego: hehe |
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| 02:40.12 | cafuego | moo moo moo MOO mOo moO Moo MoO mOO Moo MOo MOO mOo moo MoO MOo mOO Moo moo |
| 02:40.39 | karsten | cafuego: Don't have a cow, man. |
| 02:40.43 | cafuego | mOO mOO moo MOO moO MoO Moo MoO moO moo moo MOO MoO Moo moO mOo moO moo moo |
| 02:40.52 | cafuego | karsten: Just playing with 'moomooencode' ;-) |
| 02:40.54 | karsten | cafuego: Shouldn't you renick to "cowfeugo"? |
| 02:41.22 | me | grr..... nothing but trouble |
| 02:41.30 | solemnwarning | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.1/TEMP, |
| 02:41.30 | solemnwarning | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.36 | solemnwarning | how do i fix that error? |
| 02:41.48 | karsten | solemnwarning: How are you attempting to mount? |
| 02:41.57 | cafuego | solemnwarning: man smbmount. See if you're missing any options./ |
| 02:42.03 | ibe | me paypal me 20$ and give me ssh access |
| 02:42.12 | ibe | hah |
| 02:42.13 | rukasu | anyone have any suggestions for a simple local dns server? |
| 02:42.17 | cafuego | ibe: Seems like wasted effort. |
| 02:42.18 | me | lol |
| 02:42.20 | karsten | rukasu: bind. |
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| 02:42.26 | solemnwarning | No manual entry for smbmount |
| 02:42.27 | solemnwarning | ?? |
| 02:42.29 | karsten | rukasu: ...it's not that difficult. |
| 02:42.31 | ibe | i tried |
| 02:42.35 | karsten | solemnwarning: That could be part of your problem. |
| 02:42.45 | rukasu | bind.. something a bit more lightweight anyone? |
| 02:42.52 | cafuego | solemnwarning: Hmm. I wonder... apt-get install smbfs |
| 02:42.53 | me | ibe: running debian/rules binary_modules ends with this: make: *** [install] Error 1 |
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| 02:42.56 | Ronan151 | is there anyway to get Wmp10 ported to linux? |
| 02:42.59 | cafuego | rukasu: No. |
| 02:43.02 | ibe | me install gcc |
| 02:43.15 | cafuego | Ronan151: No. use mplayer with w32codecs |
| 02:43.19 | me | i have gccc.... dont i? |
| 02:43.26 | ibe | do you |
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| 02:43.34 | karsten | Ronan151: Yes. Port it. Or pay someone to do so. Or wait. |
| 02:43.42 | cafuego | In Soviet Russian, gcccp compiles you! |
| 02:43.44 | me | gss: no input files |
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| 02:43.47 | solemnwarning | how can i install smbmount? |
| 02:43.48 | rukasu | okay, bind it is :) |
| 02:43.48 | Ronan151 | i know wine can handel mp7 |
| 02:43.49 | me | gcc that is |
| 02:44.25 | alejandro_ | anyone knows where the heck is the "input" module? |
| 02:44.41 | karsten | solemnwarning: apt-cache search smbmount and install the appropriate package. |
| 02:44.51 | karsten | solemnwarning: smbfs. |
| 02:44.57 | ibe | me gcc --version |
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| 02:45.20 | cafuego | karsten: parrot |
| 02:45.38 | me | 3.3.5 |
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| 02:46.03 | ibe | me you are running debian/rules binary_modules from /usr/src/modules nvidia correct? |
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| 02:46.37 | karsten | cafuego: ?? |
| 02:46.51 | me | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:46.53 | cafuego | karsten: [13:43] <cafuego> solemnwarning: Hmm. I wonder... apt-get install smbfs |
| 02:47.14 | karsten | cafuego: Ah. |
| 02:47.15 | cafuego | me: Go to your kernel source and type 'make-kpkg modules-image' |
| 02:47.18 | RichiH | today's go girly is funny |
| 02:47.27 | RichiH | helix_: be sure to check it out :) |
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| 02:47.47 | me | where is my kernel source? |
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| 02:47.53 | me | lol, sorry im such a newb |
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| 02:47.58 | ibe | me did you redo the export section |
| 02:48.10 | me | um.....mmm.....mm..... |
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| 02:48.28 | me | i redid the KSRC |
| 02:48.39 | bjbL | Who is hap? |
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| 02:48.45 | RichiH | cafuego: feel free to do so *shrug* |
| 02:48.50 | ray2004airforce | do you want to know how to get free linux cds no charge for shipping i did my self go to: http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/ |
| 02:48.52 | FraudulentPeanut | i have a usb device that does not work ifit leave it in the computer when i am starting it up...but if i take it out and then start and after the system is loaded i can then plug it in and it works fine...what could be causing that? |
| 02:48.53 | solemnwarning | smb wont mount in any distro :( |
| 02:49.02 | *** mode/#Debian [+l 756] by debhelper |
| 02:49.02 | ibe | you installed the correct hedders? |
| 02:49.17 | bjbL | Does everyone else get a private spam from hap? |
| 02:49.22 | solemnwarning | konquer always says the mount dir dont exist even if ls shows it |
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| 02:49.39 | vroom | bjbL, yeah, as soon as I connected |
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| 02:49.53 | solemnwarning | konqeror can only see the dir if i umount the share |
| 02:49.55 | bjbL | Can we ask an op to kick this guy off? |
| 02:50.01 | solemnwarning | does any1 know wtf is wrong? |
| 02:50.03 | cafuego | !ops hap on-join spammer |
| 02:50.04 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: hap on-join spammer |
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| 02:50.14 | bjbL | thanks cafuego :-) |
| 02:50.25 | me | ibe: |
| 02:50.33 | ibe | yea |
| 02:50.34 | me | i redid them again, seems to have worked |
| 02:50.46 | cafuego | bjbL: Not that it does much when all ops are asleep. |
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| 02:50.56 | ibe | ok |
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| 02:51.17 | solemnwarning | ?? |
| 02:51.24 | me | i wish error messages had half a brain |
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| 02:51.50 | solemnwarning | hello? |
| 02:51.52 | ibe | now what |
| 02:52.03 | me | none yet |
| 02:52.05 | me | rebooting |
| 02:52.16 | me | i love having two computers |
| 02:52.18 | cafuego | solemnwarning: you have inorrect perms on the share. See the umask/uid/gid options. |
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| 02:52.25 | vroom | question about wireless - I recently apt-get upgraded, since then the modules seem to load according to lsmod, however when I insert the card I get a high beep, low beep, and no lights, and my eth1 device isn't created, so if I do an iwconfig eth1 I get "No such device" anyone have any ideas? |
| 02:52.31 | solemnwarning | huh? |
| 02:52.42 | solemnwarning | i dont understand what you mean |
| 02:52.45 | cafuego | solemnwarning: Wrong answer. |
| 02:52.47 | cheale1 | I just received (21:53:10) hap: http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 02:52.47 | cheale1 | this is three seconds after I entered #debian |
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| 02:52.58 | cafuego | !ops hap is an on-join spammer |
| 02:52.59 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: hap is an on-join spammer |
| 02:53.12 | cafuego | cheal: Please don't paste the actual spam into the channel. |
| 02:53.21 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:53.25 | Miks | Is it possible to run linux on a external hd? |
| 02:53.31 | rue_mohr | is dpkg also an infobot? |
| 02:53.38 | cafuego | !what are ya |
| 02:53.39 | dpkg | cafuego: what are you talking about? |
| 02:53.42 | dabreegster | cheal: happened to me too, hmm |
| 02:53.53 | jazzmans | !dpkg |
| 02:53.53 | dpkg | methinks dpkg is the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. a blootbot on #debian, or a bloodbot on #crack |
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| 02:54.33 | rue_mohr | dpkg my cat is white |
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| 02:54.33 | dpkg | okay, rue_mohr |
| 02:54.43 | dvs | !my cat |
| 02:54.43 | dpkg | [my cat] white |
| 02:54.46 | rue_mohr | dpkg my dog is black |
| 02:54.46 | dpkg | rue_mohr: okay |
| 02:54.54 | rue_mohr | dpkg my snake is green |
| 02:54.54 | dpkg | okay, rue_mohr |
| 02:54.55 | dvs | rue_mohr: cut it out |
| 02:55.01 | rue_mohr | dpkg what color is my cat? |
| 02:55.02 | dpkg | rue_mohr: what are you talking about? |
| 02:55.05 | saintnich | hello, i am a total noob about linux, but i was able to get debian installed, but im havinf some trubble with the xserver, could some one point me in the right direction o find some help on it? |
| 02:55.09 | rue_mohr | FAILED. |
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| 02:55.13 | rue_mohr | thanks |
| 02:55.16 | rue_mohr | oh |
| 02:55.22 | rue_mohr | dpkg forget my cat |
| 02:55.22 | dpkg | rue_mohr: i forgot my cat |
| 02:55.25 | rue_mohr | dpkg forget my dog |
| 02:55.25 | dpkg | rue_mohr: i forgot my dog |
| 02:55.28 | rue_mohr | dpkg forget my snake |
| 02:55.28 | dpkg | rue_mohr: i forgot my snake |
| 02:55.32 | rue_mohr | toodles |
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| 02:55.37 | me | WWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE thanks ibe |
| 02:55.43 | me | it only took 4 hours |
| 02:55.46 | me | *sigh* |
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| 02:55.52 | ibe | np |
| 02:56.12 | ibe | that was my one good deed for #debian |
| 02:56.17 | ibe | i quit |
| 02:56.17 | me | im now a lot more familiar with the apt system though ;) |
| 02:56.18 | solemnwarning | See the umask/uid/gid options <-- what am i supposed to do? |
| 02:56.22 | me | heh |
| 02:56.50 | me | yeah, working on my own computer sucks enough, im sure trying to tell someone else how to do it, over irc, probably sucks quite a bit |
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| 02:56.51 | me | but thanks |
| 02:56.57 | *** mode/#Debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 02:56.58 | *** mode/#Debian [+b *!*@n219079051175.netvigator.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 02:56.58 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: whee |
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| 02:57.01 | ibe | no worries |
| 02:57.14 | ibe | i just did it last weekso it was still in my head |
| 02:57.35 | ibe | actually is all about reading |
| 02:57.36 | ibe | haha |
| 02:58.04 | cheal | saintnich: checking the package's documentation is a good idea |
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| 03:02.36 | quitte | cheal progress bar is my favourite |
| 03:02.53 | paroneayea | whoa |
| 03:03.00 | paroneayea | the debian install is frighteningly... |
| 03:03.03 | paroneayea | fast o_o |
| 03:03.04 | cheal | quitte: sorry, what? I'm reading the full article now |
| 03:03.29 | quitte | cheal not sure if it actually got patented in europe |
| 03:04.10 | cheal | quitte: oh ok you were talking about a specific patent...I forgot my favorites because they're too stupid |
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| 03:04.59 | quitte | cheal xor for mouse cursor to show the background when mouse is over it is very stupid,too |
| 03:05.41 | solemnwarning | See the umask/uid/gid options <-- what am i supposed to do? |
| 03:05.48 | solemnwarning | please answer |
| 03:05.59 | paroneayea | hum... should I set apt archive access method as ftp or http? |
| 03:06.21 | quitte | there are enough real life patents that absolutely suck. what's the name of the triangles you have in your car to put on the road? putting blinking leds in those things is patented |
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| 03:08.16 | cheal | I was just expressing my happyness about this...I guess there's too much to say about patents |
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| 03:08.30 | solemnwarning | whats a umask? |
| 03:08.32 | paroneayea | once again... does ftp or http make a difference? |
| 03:08.49 | quitte | cheal always upsets me |
| 03:09.30 | quitte | paroneayea: yes - ftp is stupid |
| 03:10.00 | zu22 | use scp |
| 03:10.05 | cheal | !umask |
| 03:10.06 | dpkg | from memory, umask is 'man 2 umask' |
| 03:10.20 | quitte | zu22 since when can apt-get use scp? |
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| 03:11.47 | dabreegs1er | How can I get the console framebuffer working? When I run fb programs, it says 'open /dev/fb0: no such device'. I tried modprobe fbcon, and it said no such device. I'm pretty sure I've got the modules and I know my card/monitor is supported. |
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| 03:11.52 | FraudulentPeanut | this is pissing me off... my usb wireless lan will ony work if i plug it in after the computer reboots if i plug it in before i start my computer it doesnt work |
| 03:13.03 | mike_ | hi, ive been following this text: http://www.koivi.com/exim4-config/ and i was wondering if anyone knew how to make virtual users. it seems that it only redirects all virtual accounts to local system accounts.. i don't want this. |
| 03:13.04 | infodroid | FraudulentPeanut: did you try to isolate the problem by looking at your log files? |
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| 03:13.28 | ArtVandalae | Hello |
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| 03:13.51 | paroneayea | shnap. |
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| 03:14.03 | paroneayea | I just canceled out of aptitute. I wonder if my system has anything on it now |
| 03:14.10 | FraudulentPeanut | i looked at the logfiles and there are no errors.. it just freezes up the wireless usb card |
| 03:14.45 | ArtVandalae | With HT do I need just my CPU compiled to use it, or do the programs too have to have been compiled? |
| 03:14.56 | jagerman | HT -> Hyper Threading? |
| 03:15.06 | ArtVandalae | Yep |
| 03:15.10 | jagerman | You need your kernel to be compiled for SMP support |
| 03:15.24 | jagerman | Aside from that, no, you don't need to do anything special |
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| 03:15.41 | jagerman | Multiple programs running at once will take advantage, as will multi-threaded and/or multi-process applications |
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| 03:16.00 | jagerman | HT can, in some cases, be slower than non-HT |
| 03:16.19 | ArtVandalae | Really? Oh :S |
| 03:16.40 | jagerman | Yes, but most people claim that their desktop system *feels* faster |
| 03:16.47 | jagerman | or at least smoother |
| 03:16.54 | jagerman | I guess that's what's most important |
| 03:17.21 | paroneayea | can you change the debconf interface option at any time? |
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| 03:18.45 | infodroid | paroneayea: what "interface option" do you mean? |
| 03:19.02 | paroneayea | I'm at some menu called "configuiring debconf" |
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| 03:19.17 | paroneayea | "Packages that use debconf for configuration share a common look and feel..." |
| 03:19.41 | kg4wxw | sweet some multi processor ppl.... been looking for a non server based MB with dual processors for gaming any sudgestions? |
| 03:20.23 | duress | ive been following http://www.workaround.org/articles/ispmail/ to setup vmail accounts and now im stuck with courier pop3 and imap always stating that every login attempt has failed |
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| 03:20.50 | duress | from following the mysql.log i think the quiries are wrong but im not sure how to fix it |
| 03:21.38 | quitte | uhm. i just discovered a process "blaster -root" anyone got an idea what that is? |
| 03:22.15 | infodroid | paroneayea: you can't select gnome or kde as your debconf frontend if you haven't installed X yet, eh? it doesn't make sense to choose something other than console unless you got X installed and up and running... |
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| 03:23.22 | paroneayea | infodroid: thanks |
| 03:24.04 | common | kg4wxw: amd mp or opteron ? |
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| 03:24.22 | FieldySnuts | kg4wxw: keep in mind, very few games take advantage of both cpus, so don't count on it being much faster |
| 03:24.26 | muhoo_ | gah. vnc java client locks up the keyboard whenever i hit the tab key. wtf? mouse still works but keybaord locks up hard. |
| 03:24.30 | muhoo_ | this is the one in sid, running standalone "java -cp /usr/share/vnc-java vncviewer host blah port 5901" |
| 03:24.57 | quitte | oh - just a screensaver - heh. scared me a little |
| 03:25.07 | shingouz | muhoo_: why the hell do you want to run the java version of vnc beats me |
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| 03:25.56 | duress | anyone know whats wrong with my vmail setup? |
| 03:26.03 | CyzarX | how do i restart the sound in my debian ? |
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| 03:26.30 | shingouz | CyzarX: /etc/init.d/somethingaboutsound restart |
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| 03:26.53 | shingouz | CyzarX: just look for alsa or whatever you run as sound there and restart it |
| 03:27.06 | dabreegster | How do you set up framebuffer console? modprobe fbcon said no such device. |
| 03:27.07 | CyzarX | im using default in the control center |
| 03:27.17 | CyzarX | how do i know whether im using alsa or not ? |
| 03:27.27 | shingouz | dabreegster: does youre kernel have the appropriate framebuffer available? |
| 03:27.33 | CyzarX | and when i do /etc/init.d/alsa restart it said file or dir not found |
| 03:27.48 | shingouz | CyzarX: lsmod should give some hints |
| 03:28.00 | dabreegster | shingouz: I believe so, it's a kernel-image for 2.6.8-2-386. |
| 03:28.07 | dabreegster | and my hardware does support it. |
| 03:28.19 | mike_ | hi, ive been following this text: http://www.koivi.com/exim4-config/ and i was wondering if anyone knew how to make virtual users.?? |
| 03:28.20 | muhoo_ | shingouz: i'm running it on a knoppix laptop, and stinkin' knoppix doesn't include xvncclient. the machine is too low-memory to run kde and krdc |
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| 03:28.37 | muhoo_ | so i copied over teh classes from sid, and they run, but with this maddening bug. |
| 03:28.54 | shingouz | dabreegster: i have heard reaports that you need to have just one framebuffer module in the kernel and even that has to be the correct one for your hardware or something gets borked |
| 03:28.55 | muhoo_ | just try typing in emacs, or using w3m, or firefox, without using the tab key ;-) |
| 03:29.02 | nemozny | im running windows and im happy |
| 03:29.05 | FieldySnuts | try running vncviewer instead, pry has that |
| 03:29.12 | CyzarX | shingouz, ok, i done lsmod |
| 03:29.14 | shingouz | muhoo_: #knoppix in that case, this is not a knoppix channel |
| 03:29.18 | CyzarX | shingouz, what's next ? |
| 03:29.19 | mike_ | nemozny: windoze sucks |
| 03:29.27 | muhoo_ | shingouz: i had a feeling you were gonna say that |
| 03:29.27 | dabreegster | shingouz: but the debian way of getting the /dev/fb0 device created is.....? |
| 03:29.33 | shingouz | CyzarX: what did you find out with lsmod? |
| 03:29.40 | quitte | shingouz: have multiple framebuffers on multiple cards is possible |
| 03:29.43 | muhoo_ | at this point i'd rather roll my own livecd. |
| 03:29.45 | shingouz | muhoo_: so why did you ask in the first place |
| 03:29.49 | nvz | dabreegster: installing debian :) |
| 03:29.54 | CyzarX | shingouz, there are a lot of outputs, which one are u referring ? |
| 03:29.55 | muhoo_ | just in case someone wanted to cut me some slack. |
| 03:29.59 | muhoo_ | later |
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| 03:30.09 | dabreegster | nvz: what else? I'm reinstalling tomorrow anyway, but I'm curious. |
| 03:30.37 | paroneayea | !xorg |
| 03:30.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, xorg is xorg is an alternative X implementation (fork of XFree86 4.4RC2) from X.Org, current release is X11R6.8. It won't be packaged for Debian until after Sarge release. See http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans for more information. Ask me about 'get xorg' for unofficial xorg debs. "Debian will move to Xorg the day Duke Nukem Forever is released." |
| 03:30.40 | shingouz | dabreegster: the only way i have seen to create the appropriate hardware support for the framebuffers is a new kernel |
| 03:30.42 | nvz | dabreegster: man MAKEDEV |
| 03:30.44 | nvz | perhaps |
| 03:30.48 | dabreegster | alright |
| 03:30.55 | paroneayea | debian has no xorg? |
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| 03:31.01 | shingouz | paroneayea: nope |
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| 03:31.12 | paroneayea | why? |
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| 03:31.21 | nvz | why ask why |
| 03:31.25 | shingouz | how about reading the links you just got? |
| 03:31.49 | paroneayea | good idea |
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| 03:32.57 | shingouz | CyzarX: look for stuff that has either "oss" or "alsa" in them, what do you have there? |
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| 03:34.00 | CyzarX | shingouz, oss |
| 03:34.14 | shingouz | then you need to restart the oss in init.d |
| 03:34.55 | CyzarX | shingouz, there is no oss in /etc/init.d/ |
| 03:35.15 | duress | has anyone setup postfix with vmail? |
| 03:35.28 | shingouz | CyzarX: umm... could you paste the ls /etc/init.d in #flood? |
| 03:35.57 | CyzarX | in |
| 03:35.58 | CyzarX | ok |
| 03:36.03 | CyzarX | but no one there |
| 03:36.20 | shingouz | oh yes there are a bunch of people |
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| 03:36.36 | shingouz | 64 people as a matter of fact |
| 03:36.38 | mike_ | about 70 people in #flood |
| 03:36.40 | dabreegster | (talking about framebuffer console) I've tried MAKEDEV. same errors. |
| 03:36.45 | mike_ | heh, close enough |
| 03:37.05 | shingouz | CyzarX: you sure you in the correct channel? ;) |
| 03:37.11 | paroneayea | hum... installed xfree-common... where's startx? |
| 03:37.32 | dabreegster | /usr/bin/X11 |
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| 03:38.02 | maher | paroneayea: install x-window-system |
| 03:38.52 | inetd | in X can you restrict which workspace an application would run on? |
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| 03:39.22 | pipeline | inetd: That's a window-manager-specific thing. |
| 03:39.34 | pipeline | inetd: Metacity won't do it for you. Sawfish will. I don't know about KDE at all. |
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| 03:39.55 | inetd | pipeline, what about fluxbox? |
| 03:40.06 | shingouz | CyzarX: ok, now i see the problem, you have alsa there. have you had sound ever in the first place? |
| 03:40.11 | nemozny | fluxboxs cool |
| 03:40.28 | inetd | nemozny, :) yeap |
| 03:40.30 | hikaru79 | I've just done 'apt-get install viewcvs viewcvs-queries' and the installation was succesful as far as I know. What directory do I move to /var/www/ so that I can access it through my Apache2 webserver? |
| 03:40.31 | CyzarX | shingouz, yes, i have sound |
| 03:40.39 | inetd | nemozny, need to find some good wallpapers but |
| 03:40.44 | pipeline | inetd: hahaha, fluxbox. Good luck, bud. |
| 03:41.03 | dabreegster | Anybody know off the top of their heads how to make ctrl+left arrow perform the readline function backword-word? It's: bind "i dont know this part":backword-word |
| 03:41.06 | shingouz | CyzarX: i think it has not been configured correctly at the moment. install alsa-base and alsa-utils |
| 03:41.17 | ArtVandalae | How can you check whether Hyper Threading is working on your Debian system? |
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| 03:42.11 | CyzarX | shingouz, apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils ? |
| 03:42.13 | tabmoW | is the latest version woody 3.0r4 ? |
| 03:42.14 | shingouz | CyzarX: before you start goofing with alsaconf "modprobe -r snd_pcm_oss" to get the modules out |
| 03:42.18 | shingouz | CyzarX: yes |
| 03:42.23 | shingouz | as root of course |
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| 03:42.52 | CyzarX | shingouz, ok, done apt-get install both alsa thing. what's next ? |
| 03:43.08 | inetd | pipeline, what wm u use? |
| 03:43.16 | shingouz | tabmoW: i think so but if you are going to connect the box to the internet you can and will get the very latest once you run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 03:43.45 | shingouz | CyzarX: did you have them installed in the first place or did they install correctly this time without any barfs? |
| 03:43.50 | pipeline | inetd: gnome2 and the default metacity. I used to use sawfish because it had so many more options than metacity, but then I stopped caring. |
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| 03:44.09 | CyzarX | shingouz, i dont understand |
| 03:44.22 | shingouz | CyzarX: apt-get installed them just now? |
| 03:44.38 | abrocadabro | I am dual booting between Debian and XP, while I was installing grub this morning, I erased boot infomation for XP by issuing grub-install /dev/hda1, and now I can't boot into XP anymore, does anyonw know how to fix it? |
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| 03:45.01 | Strife | can anyone help me figure out why I can't get my wireless card working? |
| 03:45.02 | CyzarX | shingouz, YES, apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils just now |
| 03:45.10 | Strife | I used to have it working before my old hard drive crashed |
| 03:45.13 | CyzarX | shingouz, now it is done. what should i do now? |
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| 03:45.17 | infodroid | Strife: is it supported in linux? |
| 03:45.18 | tabmoW | shingouz: yer cool - thanks, downloading off my local 'free transfer' mirror ;oP |
| 03:45.21 | shingouz | CyzarX: good, no need to get your feathers ruffled now |
| 03:45.24 | Strife | infodroid: through ndiswrapper, yes |
| 03:45.27 | shingouz | CyzarX: run alsaconf now |
| 03:45.38 | Strife | and like I said, I had the exact card running before |
| 03:45.40 | shingouz | tabmoW: youre welcome |
| 03:45.48 | CyzarX | shingouz CyzarX: before you start goofing with alsaconf "modprobe -r snd_pcm_oss" to get the modules out <== what about this? |
| 03:45.48 | Strife | /etc/network/interfaces is edited correctly |
| 03:45.54 | solemnwarning | is there a walkthrough to making mounted samba shares work? |
| 03:46.04 | Strife | but whenever I try to bring it up with dhclient, it doesn't detect the dhcp server |
| 03:46.17 | shingouz | CyzarX: well... that would be just to keep you on the safe side, letting alsaconf do its thing nicely |
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| 03:46.25 | weilawei | hullo.. save the (debian) newbie.. will i be able to use the sarge netinst cd with a linksys wireless-g usb network adapter v4? |
| 03:46.32 | shingouz | Strife: is your wlan wepped? |
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| 03:46.36 | Strife | nope |
| 03:46.53 | CyzarX | shingouz, u mean i skip the modprobe -r step and let alsaconf remove it? |
| 03:46.55 | shingouz | Strife: run iwconfig and paste in #flood please |
| 03:47.06 | shingouz | CyzarX: run the modprobe -r |
| 03:47.09 | quitte | hmm if i want to use a pcmcia card together with an initrd to hav a nfs root filesystem i'm having a problem? |
| 03:47.17 | Strife | shingouz: I'd love to, but that would require a restart since I can't connect to the internet EXCEPT through wireless |
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| 03:47.31 | Strife | everything SEEMS to be installed correctly though |
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| 03:47.48 | Strife | and when running ndiswrapper -l, it lists the correct driver and says that the hardware is there |
| 03:47.54 | shingouz | Strife: iwconfig as a plain run is just to get what parameters you run at the moment. man iwconfig |
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| 03:48.08 | quitte | or is it ok to remove the initrd containing cardmgr while cardmgr is running? |
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| 03:48.35 | Strife | shingouz: right, my point is, I can't run it and paste the output because that would require me to be in debian right now, which I can't be since I can't connect to the internet without the wireless card |
| 03:48.52 | shingouz | Strife: good point. |
| 03:48.57 | CyzarX | shingouz CyzarX: run the modprobe -r && shingouz CyzarX: well... that would be just to keep you on the safe side, letting alsaconf do its thing nicely ..... shingouz , u r confusing :( i just done alsaconf |
| 03:49.02 | Strife | indeed |
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| 03:49.30 | dabreegster | What's a good way to test the framebuffer device is working? fbi says: ioctl FBIOGET_CONF2FBMAP: invalid arg |
| 03:49.35 | quitte | Strife: try to ifconfig wlan0 up before running dhclient. my card seems to only take the iwconfig configuration when it is up |
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| 03:49.52 | Strife | quitte: I've tried that as well, no luck |
| 03:49.56 | quitte | hmm |
| 03:50.00 | quitte | what card? |
| 03:50.12 | dabreegster | trident cyberblade; I modprobed tridentfb |
| 03:50.21 | shingouz | Strife: in that case you need to reboot and run man iwconfig, you will have to iwconfig the card to the correct SSID, then ifup it |
| 03:50.30 | Penix | bleh. didn't even notice he'd quit |
| 03:50.33 | Penix | bah. wrong channel |
| 03:50.36 | Strife | here's another thing: when I installed, I skipped the network setup since it couldn't detect the network without the ndiswrapper driver anyway.... is there something else that that would setup that needs to be changed? |
| 03:50.45 | shingouz | CyzarX: do you have sound now? |
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| 03:51.05 | Strife | quitte: linksys WMP54G |
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| 03:51.24 | shingouz | Strife: i havent run ndiswrapper ever so i am ntot quite sure how ndiswrapper should be set up :( |
| 03:51.34 | CyzarX | shingouz, before apt-get alsa thing, i have sound, after apt-get alsa thing, i also have sound, get me?! |
| 03:51.38 | chester | How do you stop GDM from coming up at every boot? |
| 03:51.46 | brad | can someone gimme some help...whenever i click on the home icon in kde i get an error message saying kdeinit couuldnt launch kfmclient |
| 03:51.58 | Ghostbuster | i have ndiswrapper set up |
| 03:51.59 | Strife | shingouz: I understand... I have a feeling it may be a general network thing though... seeing as I'm almost positive that everything is identical to my previous setup as far as ndiswrapper is concerned |
| 03:52.11 | shingouz | CyzarX: so you do have sound now is that is? for shits and giggles check /etc/init.d for "alsa" now |
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| 03:52.42 | tabmoW | if i were to do a simple workstation type install what cd's out of the 4 would i need? |
| 03:52.42 | CyzarX | yes, i see alsa in /etc/init.d/ |
| 03:52.50 | Strife | so with all the installation stuff... is there a way to rerun that? |
| 03:52.52 | CyzarX | so now i can do /etc/init.d/alsa restart |
| 03:52.54 | Strife | the configuration, that is |
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| 03:52.59 | shingouz | Strife: basically you get the wlan up by iwconfigging the SSID alnong with the possible WEP, then just ifupping the interface |
| 03:53.17 | Strife | shingouz: yeah, last time I didn't even need to iwconfig at all... |
| 03:53.22 | shingouz | CyzarX: now if you ever have to restart alsa just run alsa restart |
| 03:53.30 | quitte | Strife: same chipset here. broadcom 4306. you have to use EXACTLY the driver that is recommended on the ndiswrapper page. no idea where i found it |
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| 03:54.03 | shingouz | Strife: that might be because you had only one visible network at the time. the card connects to the strongest singnal if you do not specify the SSID manually |
| 03:54.04 | CyzarX | shingouz, ok, thanks ;) and use simple english next time :P |
| 03:54.27 | Strife | shingouz: good point... |
| 03:54.33 | shingouz | CyzarX: youre welcome. and learn how to read before you begin chewing me about bad english |
| 03:54.43 | weilawei | anyone want to answer a (hopefully) quick question about debian sarge netinst? |
| 03:54.48 | Strife | shingouz: although that doesn't explain necessarily why it worked before the hd crash and why it won't now |
| 03:55.19 | abrotman | weilawei: just ask |
| 03:55.41 | Ghostbuster | strife whats in etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 03:55.45 | shingouz | Strife: hd crash? that does not sound good to me, you did fsck the drive properly? if it was a head crash you better get a replacement about yesterday |
| 03:55.48 | solemnwarning | has any1 had mount points that say dir dont exist after its mounted a samba share? |
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| 03:55.53 | weilawei | abrotman: i did a while back ;) and no answer, so i let it go for a bit. now, if possible, how would i install using a linksys wireless-g usb network adapter v4? |
| 03:55.57 | Strife | shingouz: oh, I have a new drive now |
| 03:56.00 | abrotman | weilawei: i didn't say ask me :) |
| 03:56.06 | weilawei | abrotman: =P |
| 03:56.13 | abrotman | weilawei: wifi g .. iffy .. |
| 03:56.18 | witless | is there some way to determine cpu bus speed from the CLI? |
| 03:56.20 | shingouz | Strife: fresh install or you just copied the old stuff over? |
| 03:56.21 | quitte | Strife: are you sure you use the same driver as before the crash? |
| 03:56.28 | abrotman | witless: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 03:56.37 | Strife | shingouz: fresh install, haven't successfully recovered the old data yet anyway |
| 03:56.38 | abrotman | weilawei: is your card supported at all by linux ?> |
| 03:56.45 | abrotman | !any2 |
| 03:56.46 | abrotman | !any |
| 03:56.48 | abrotman | !any1 |
| 03:56.49 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 03:56.51 | weilawei | it isnt a card.. its a USB adapter. |
| 03:56.51 | abrotman | finally |
| 03:56.55 | Strife | quitte: yes, positive... I used the driver on the CD... and there were two, one of which didn't work before, so I used the one that did work |
| 03:56.55 | shingouz | Strife: probably some weird slight misconfiguration then |
| 03:57.02 | abrotman | weilawei: i know .. is it supported by linux or not? |
| 03:57.09 | Strife | quitte: plus, ndiswrapper -l says the driver and hardware are both installed |
| 03:57.13 | weilawei | ive heard of it being supported with ndiswrapper |
| 03:57.30 | weilawei | otherwise no idea |
| 03:57.31 | shingouz | weilawei: (usb network thingies usually suck) |
| 03:57.33 | Strife | shingouz: is it possible to rerun installation configuration stuff you think? |
| 03:57.40 | witless | abrotman: no info on bus speed there - maybe i'm thinking of the wrong thing. i need to know the bus speed so i can order the right matching processor for a SMP machine |
| 03:57.44 | weilawei | shingouz: i know i know, but its what i have at the moment |
| 03:57.46 | shingouz | Strife: i think so |
| 03:57.49 | solemnwarning | ???????? |
| 03:57.54 | Strife | anyone know how? :) |
| 03:57.59 | pipeline | witless: What SMP machine? |
| 03:58.17 | abrotman | weilawei: install the base system .. then try to get ndis working |
| 03:58.17 | witless | it's a dell 1300 PIII |
| 03:58.17 | brad | can someone gimme some help...whenever i click on the home icon in kde i get an error message saying kdeinit couuldnt launch kfmclient |
| 03:58.21 | shingouz | witless: and more importantly what cpu |
| 03:58.26 | pipeline | witless: If it's not Sun or AMD, you can't arbitrarily mix processors, you need a matched set. |
| 03:58.28 | abrotman | witless: sure .. |
| 03:58.28 | witless | PIII katmai 600 |
| 03:58.45 | quitte | Strife ok then. i had ndiswrapper claiming the driver and hardware were present - i could iwconfig and ifconfig - but never got a connection. the card really sucks. get a different one. i'm still having problems where it sometimes won't work if all other devices disconnected and then come back up. |
| 03:58.53 | abrotman | witless: so just order another katmai |
| 03:58.54 | witless | i thought if you get the same kind of cpu with the same stepping level they can be used in an SMP machine |
| 03:58.58 | pipeline | witless: 100 MHz bus. It probably tops out at 750 MHz. Any non-coppermine P3 should work fine. You'll have to buy it off ebay. |
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| 03:59.03 | shingouz | witless: you will need a 686 SMP kernel then. SMP is multiprocessor btw, you do not need it with only a single cpu |
| 03:59.17 | pipeline | witless: Yes, but how will you verify the stepping without having the processor module in your hands and unscrewing the outer casing? ;) |
| 03:59.27 | kreg | is there a way to make nautalis always use list mode regardless of what folder is viewed? |
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| 03:59.29 | Strife | quitte: (A) The card worked flawlessly before my old hd died. (B) I'm using it now on windows. (C) I don't want to spend money when I KNOW it can work. |
| 03:59.56 | shingouz | witless: mixing cpu's is ok if the computer is not a production server, the mixed cpuäs just are not quite as stable |
| 04:00.06 | quitte | Strife oh it works here - but all the other cards here that have native drivers work *far* better |
| 04:00.09 | Strife | so does anyone know how I can rerun install-time configuration? |
| 04:00.11 | witless | this is a production server :-/ |
| 04:00.27 | pipeline | witless: Just buy a couple of matched sets off ebay and see what works. They're not that expensive. |
| 04:00.30 | quitte | Strife: and B is never an argument here |
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| 04:00.40 | witless | pipeline: ok |
| 04:00.41 | pipeline | witless: Well, they're quite expensive, but cheaper than a new SMP dell. |
| 04:00.42 | quitte | Strife: etherconf |
| 04:00.43 | Strife | quitte: of course not, but my point is, the hardware works |
| 04:00.47 | shingouz | witless: in that case you neeed the exact duplicate of the cpu you have. open the box and physically inspect it |
| 04:00.49 | Strife | etherconf, excellent |
| 04:00.50 | Strife | thanks a lot |
| 04:01.04 | brad | can someone gimme some help...whenever i click on the home icon in kde i get an error message saying kdeinit couuldnt launch kfmclient |
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| 04:01.19 | Strife | ok, I'm off to attempt to get this to work |
| 04:01.26 | Strife | thanks shingouz and quitte |
| 04:01.29 | Strife | and everyone else |
| 04:01.30 | khakane | is there a way to make debian stop complaining about unmet dependancies on something i broke on purpose? |
| 04:01.33 | shingouz | Strife: get some caffeine first :) |
| 04:01.40 | maher | khakane: use equivs |
| 04:01.41 | Strife | shingouz: already got it covered ;) |
| 04:01.46 | khakane | equivs? |
| 04:01.50 | khakane | im not familiar with that |
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| 04:02.14 | abrotman | brad: #debian-kde |
| 04:02.21 | shingouz | !tell khakane about equivs |
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| 04:02.59 | khakane | shingouz: what if i cant install it cuz apt-get complains about these unmet dependancies? |
| 04:03.07 | khakane | :) |
| 04:03.28 | pipeline | khakane: apt-get -f install |
| 04:03.49 | khakane | i dont want that stuff installed |
| 04:03.58 | Ghostbuster | does anyone know where i can get Ximian Evolution ? |
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| 04:04.10 | shingouz | khakane: in that case you might be screwed |
| 04:04.10 | abrotman | Ghostbuster: which debian ? |
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| 04:04.21 | Ghostbuster | unstable |
| 04:04.22 | khakane | shingouz: could i download the equivs .deb |
| 04:04.27 | khakane | and isntall that way? |
| 04:04.35 | abrotman | Ghostbuster: did you even try apt-cache search evolution ? |
| 04:04.37 | shingouz | khakane: why not |
| 04:04.40 | abrotman | i mean .. even try? |
| 04:04.42 | abrotman | at all? |
| 04:04.54 | Ghostbuster | yes i did |
| 04:05.08 | abrotman | !info evolution sid |
| 04:05.11 | dpkg | evolution: (The groupware suite), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1.2 (sid), Packaged size: 9969 kB, Installed size: 27372 kB |
| 04:05.15 | abrotman | apparently not that hard |
| 04:05.20 | abrotman | or you're not using debian |
| 04:05.27 | abrotman | Ghostbuster: what variant are you using? |
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| 04:06.00 | Assid | how come sarge isnt going for X.org ? |
| 04:06.04 | abrotman | !xorg |
| 04:06.04 | dpkg | somebody said xorg was xorg is an alternative X implementation (fork of XFree86 4.4RC2) from X.Org, current release is X11R6.8. It won't be packaged for Debian until after Sarge release. See http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans for more information. Ask me about 'get xorg' for unofficial xorg debs. "Debian will move to Xorg the day Duke Nukem Forever is released." |
| 04:06.09 | abrotman | Assid: read the damn topic |
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| 04:06.51 | shingouz | abrotman: he didnt have time.. ten seconds |
| 04:06.58 | abrotman | shingouz: not even 10 |
| 04:06.58 | doubleh1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.03 | Assid | hhaha |
| 04:07.04 | shingouz | abrotman: :) |
| 04:07.09 | abrotman | doubleh1: ask the debian-arm list |
| 04:07.25 | abrotman | Assid: not funny |
| 04:07.41 | Assid | sorry |
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| 04:08.07 | doubleh1 | abrotman: just done ... but when IRC have an answer, it is dead fast ... ML ... i ve to wait at least 6 or 12h :) |
| 04:08.25 | abrotman | doubleh1: right .. but ARM isn't so popular |
| 04:08.32 | Fackamato | Hi. What was the command to add /etc/init.d-scripts to the default runlevel? (to make them start at boot) |
| 04:08.51 | doubleh1 | abrotman: hazard can make some one join here just at the same time as me :) |
| 04:09.07 | abrotman | doubleh1: you mean chaos theory ? |
| 04:09.35 | doubleh1 | abrotman: or God, or Allah ... or Luck ... |
| 04:09.41 | abrotman | Fackamato: update-rc.d |
| 04:10.01 | abrotman | fate .. destiny .. |
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| 04:10.15 | shingouz | The Force... |
| 04:10.37 | abrotman | gentoo clouds the force .. |
| 04:10.51 | shingouz | yea. bad gentoo, bad |
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| 04:11.21 | Fackamato | thanks alot |
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| 04:13.34 | doubleh1 | abrotman: let me check .... |
| 04:13.49 | doubleh1 | abrotman: :( no girl waiting for me outside :( |
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| 04:14.02 | abrotman | doubleh1: http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/ |
| 04:14.48 | brenda | I've got an arm |
| 04:14.53 | brenda | in fact, I have two of them |
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| 04:15.05 | shingouz | heh |
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| 04:15.23 | brenda | that was sad |
| 04:15.24 | brenda | I know |
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| 04:15.33 | shingouz | but you had to, i know :) |
| 04:15.56 | abrotman | !joke |
| 04:15.56 | dpkg | stop abusing the bot already |
| 04:15.59 | abrotman | :( |
| 04:16.02 | rimo | installed totem-xine,but no sound when play mp3, avi video.Know why? |
| 04:16.03 | brenda | lol |
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| 04:16.32 | abrotman | rimo: using alsa? |
| 04:16.38 | rimo | no |
| 04:16.59 | abrotman | then either switch to alsa .. or fix totem .. the totem config figures you're using alsa by default |
| 04:17.26 | rimo | abrocadabro:I'll try, thanks. |
| 04:17.34 | abrotman | rimo: misfire |
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| 04:17.44 | BucWheat | grrrrr.... make modules-image in /usr/src/kernel-sourc-2.6.8 yields errors for /usr/src/modules/comedi :( |
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| 04:19.48 | khakane | holy crap this equivs looks dificult |
| 04:19.51 | khakane | ;\ |
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| 04:20.03 | cleverAlf | just a quickie question... i finally got ide disk installed and driver loading on boot but it isn't mounting (on boot) even though there is an entry in the fstab file. I don't mind mounting manually but would be nice if I could get it to do it at boot time.. TIA mike.. |
| 04:20.05 | hdo781 | Does anyone know what this means? hdo781:~$ ooffice |
| 04:20.05 | hdo781 | I'm confused because I can't find OpenOffice's user files. |
| 04:20.05 | hdo781 | Your ~/.sversionrc file tells they should be under /home/hdo781/.openoffice/1.1.2, |
| 04:20.05 | hdo781 | but they are not. Please fix the situation manually. |
| 04:20.05 | hdo781 | You may want to edit ~/.sversionrc to indicate where is OO |
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| 04:20.11 | shingouz | that is what you get for deliberately screwing up the system ;) |
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| 04:20.39 | shingouz | hdo781: dont flood |
| 04:20.46 | hdo781 | Sorry |
| 04:20.55 | hdo781 | I need help with openoffice |
| 04:21.08 | shingouz | hdo781: is the error message too hard to understand? you are missing some files or they are not where they are supposed to be |
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| 04:21.24 | pipeline | hdo781: Did you download openoffice from openoffice.org? |
| 04:21.27 | cleverAlf | oo user files are usually in a hidden file in your home directory.. ie: .office or something in that order.. |
| 04:21.50 | rimo | abrocadabro, i'm not a native English speaker, not sure what "misfire" means. |
| 04:22.00 | shingouz | hdo781: you should have used apt-get to get the ooo in place btw |
| 04:22.10 | abrotman | rimo: no |
| 04:22.15 | hdo781 | I did you use apt-get. |
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| 04:22.23 | shingouz | rimo: bomb that goes fzzztttt not bang like it should |
| 04:22.29 | abrocadabro | rimo:I never said you misfired |
| 04:22.35 | hdo781 | How come it didn't automatically make .openoffice for me? |
| 04:22.48 | abrocadabro | rimo: abrotman said that |
| 04:22.49 | brad | someone told me there is a mplayer package for debian allready |
| 04:22.51 | rimo | abrocadabro, sorry, :-) |
| 04:22.52 | pipeline | hdo781: I would just "rm -r ~/.sversionrc ~/.openoffice" eheh |
| 04:22.53 | abrotman | abrocadabro: he keeps misfiring :) |
| 04:22.54 | brad | anyone know what its called? |
| 04:22.58 | brenda | shingouz: isn't that a dud? |
| 04:23.02 | shingouz | hdo781: it doesnt make it, it just installs it |
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| 04:23.03 | abrocadabro | abrotman: I agree |
| 04:23.11 | shingouz | brenda: that too |
| 04:23.12 | brenda | shingouz: I thought a misfire is when a gun goes 'click' |
| 04:23.16 | abrotman | !tell brad about mplayer |
| 04:23.18 | dabreegster | I've modprobed tridentfb (cause I have a trident cyberblade card) and everytime I try to run fb stuff, it says: ioctl FBIOGET_CON2FBMAP: invalid argument |
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| 04:23.27 | shingouz | well. yes... but i tried to keep it simple |
| 04:23.28 | jharrison | bleh |
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| 04:23.50 | brenda | I'm just teasin |
| 04:23.53 | dud | :/ |
| 04:23.57 | EtherNet | should a simple cat file.wav > /dev/audio play the audio file ? |
| 04:24.02 | brenda | it's a dud |
| 04:24.02 | shingouz | brenda: the effect is still the same, you get a click or fzzzzzt instead of the bang you want :) |
| 04:24.09 | dud | brenda, :/ |
| 04:24.11 | dabreegster | EtherNet: usually, if not 'play' |
| 04:24.40 | shingouz | brenda: don't tease dud, he might go bang ;) |
| 04:24.52 | shingouz | sorry, had to |
| 04:24.55 | brenda | or fzzzzzt |
| 04:25.01 | EtherNet | dabreegster, what may be the problem if it doesn't play anything by simple cat file.wav > /dev/dsp |
| 04:25.17 | EtherNet | dabreegster, sorry arts was taking the control |
| 04:25.18 | EtherNet | thanks |
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| 04:26.15 | brenda | Isn't it silly to turn off sshd passwordauthentication on a fresh install? |
| 04:26.20 | jharrison | python is sweet |
| 04:26.24 | brenda | How am I supposed to get a key to it? |
| 04:26.39 | brad | that marrilat source link doesnt work |
| 04:26.40 | abrotman | jharrison: with bbq sauce!! |
| 04:26.41 | witless | python is nice |
| 04:26.46 | jharrison | abrotman: sure |
| 04:26.50 | abrotman | !marillat |
| 04:26.50 | dpkg | from memory, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list |
| 04:26.55 | jharrison | abrotman: and sugar |
| 04:26.59 | brad | yeah |
| 04:27.04 | rimo | abrotman, where can I look for totem config? I can't find in home directory. |
| 04:27.11 | brad | it prompts for username and pword for the ftp |
| 04:27.13 | abrotman | brad: it tells you there how to do it |
| 04:27.23 | abrotman | rimo: uhm ~/.xine/totem-config i think |
| 04:27.26 | jharrison | abrotman: I just wrote a script that take .ogg files and converts them to .mp3 |
| 04:27.34 | brad | nevermind] |
| 04:27.35 | shingouz | brenda: dpkg-reconfigure sshd perhaps? i'm not sure but try it, shouldnt break anything at least |
| 04:27.36 | abrotman | jharrison: you're wierd |
| 04:27.41 | cleverAlf | so nobody want/cares to tackle my ide disk mount issue tonight? :-( |
| 04:27.42 | brad | i clicked cancel and it worked |
| 04:27.45 | jharrison | abrotman: well normally I would not do that |
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| 04:28.08 | jharrison | abrotman: however I have a car cd player that only plays mp3s |
| 04:28.14 | rimo | abrotman, there is only catalog.cache under .xine |
| 04:28.22 | abrotman | jharrison: you know that going from CD->ogg->mp3 is really bad right? |
| 04:28.33 | jharrison | abrotman: so its .ogg on my computer and whatever I want in the car gets put on a cd in .mp3 form |
| 04:28.48 | vulture | jharrison: then rip them straight to mp3 instead |
| 04:28.59 | jharrison | abrotman: yes but I have a few .ogg from stuff I cant fin dthe cds for anymore |
| 04:28.59 | abrotman | rimo: sorry .. ~/.gnome2/totem_config |
| 04:28.59 | vulture | or to ogg and mp3, but converting between two different lossy formats is just a Bad Idea |
| 04:29.05 | ArtVandalae | Yeah.. you lose quality each jump |
| 04:29.10 | abrotman | jharrison: ok |
| 04:29.14 | vulture | *shrugs* |
| 04:29.27 | jharrison | abrotman: for the stuff I have cds for I just re-rip straight to mp3 |
| 04:29.36 | brenda | shingouz: well... I can change the sshd_config... but I just think it's odd to turn it off at the very start of an install. You obviously want sshd on cause you told it to... er... I just shut up about it. |
| 04:29.50 | jharrison | bad idea or not at least I can play stuff in my car |
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| 04:30.01 | mike_ | has anyone configured exim with virtual accounts/domains successfully? |
| 04:30.03 | dabreegster | I've modprobed tridentfb (cause I have a trident cyberblade card) and everytime I try to run fb stuff, it says: ioctl FBIOGET_CON2FBMAP: invalid argument |
| 04:30.05 | mike_ | in here ** |
| 04:30.09 | jharrison | and they were encoded with a high bitrate already so its not so bad |
| 04:30.09 | brenda | doesn't do any good to be picky |
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| 04:30.26 | shingouz | brenda: i like having sshd running on my computers, that way i can get on them remotely if the local access is down for some reason |
| 04:30.33 | jharrison | I had a vivaldi cd I cant find anymore |
| 04:30.34 | jharrison | that sucks |
| 04:30.45 | shingouz | dabreegster: wrong module i guess |
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| 04:31.01 | dabreegster | shingouz: know which one is right? |
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| 04:31.21 | brenda | shingouz: I do too... my point is that passwordauthentication is off... but I can't get a public key to the system until I turn passwordauthentication on... after which I have to turn it back off again. |
| 04:31.21 | shingouz | dabreegster: no, i cannot see into your computer to check the chipsets |
| 04:31.27 | dabreegster | hmm... I just modprobed fbcon after modprobing tridentfb. It worked. |
| 04:31.27 | dabreegster | cool |
| 04:31.46 | dabreegster | same error when I try to run programs though |
| 04:31.52 | dabreegster | the console display has changed though |
| 04:31.57 | shingouz | brenda: security conscious perhaps? ;) |
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| 04:32.01 | brenda | shingouz: just something I keep doing over and over on my servers |
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| 04:32.25 | brenda | shingouz: just wish passwordauthentication was on by default |
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| 04:32.36 | brenda | at least for a fresh install |
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| 04:33.14 | shingouz | did you try the dpkg-reconfigure on them? and i think there is some option to leave it on at the isntall, not sure though |
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| 04:33.23 | jofer | :> |
| 04:33.25 | jofer | xaxa |
| 04:34.49 | karsten | How would I get the address space assigned to, say, MCI? |
| 04:34.53 | brenda | shingouz: maybe it's best that I ignore it :) |
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| 04:35.29 | shingouz | brenda: yea, i think so too, less grey hair for you |
| 04:35.34 | khakane | Error during the build process: Inappropriate ioctl for device at /usr/bin/equivs-build line 180, <IN> line 41. |
| 04:35.45 | khakane | this equivs is messin up, am i missing something/ |
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| 04:36.16 | poh | is there a way for me to quickly scale a bunch of jpeg images down? |
| 04:36.18 | BucWheat | why isn't apt-get finding package: debianhelper ? |
| 04:36.21 | dondelelcaro | poh: use convert |
| 04:36.23 | vulture | poh: "convert" |
| 04:36.24 | poh | thanks |
| 04:36.27 | abrotman | BucWheat: debhelper |
| 04:36.34 | dondelelcaro | (or mogrify, depending) |
| 04:36.39 | BucWheat | k |
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| 04:38.24 | dabreegster | I got framebuffer to work by modprobing tridentfb and then fbcon. It changed the console and I tested a movie with mplayer -vo fbdev2. Works great. But I keep getting an error about 'ioctl FBIOGET_CON2FBMAP: invalid argument' when trying image viewers and stuff. Also, anybody know why changing vts while mplayer is playing using the fbdev2 video output, it'll change the vt, but wont keep the video on the right tty? |
| 04:39.13 | khakane | this stupid equivs grr |
| 04:39.21 | tabmoW | when i boot off the cd my laptop screen just keeps flashing - even when i do linux video=vga16:off |
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| 04:40.18 | tabmoW | ahhh got it now ;oP |
| 04:40.43 | abrocadabro | has anyone got tunebrowse to work stream music? I can see other people's music but can't play them |
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| 04:40.55 | abrocadabro | tunesbrowser |
| 04:41.10 | xk | does growisofs burn more than the actual image? |
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| 04:43.33 | dabreegster | Anybody know a site that explains framebuffer and how to use it, for example, could I have a background image for all the VTs on the console? |
| 04:43.34 | tabmoW | is it wise to use a ext3 or reiserfs for debian? |
| 04:43.42 | dabreegster | the fb HOWTO isnt that useful |
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| 04:44.06 | abrotman | tabmoW: that's your decision |
| 04:44.14 | abrotman | !framebuffer |
| 04:44.14 | dpkg | hmm... framebuffer is a region of memory into which "frames" of graphical data are drawn. if you're looking for the framebuffer console, see fbcon. X is also a framebuffer system, as is berlin. |
| 04:44.27 | tabmoW | abrotman: it seems that the install cd only let's me pick normal linux partition which is ext2 |
| 04:44.28 | dabreegster | I've already read that info. |
| 04:44.28 | Xenguy | tabmoW: there are advantages to ext3 (the only disadvantage I've seen is there is no way to 'undelete' AFAIK) |
| 04:44.40 | abrotman | tabmoW: which installer? |
| 04:44.45 | xk | does reiserfs still run dogslow when the partition is >90% full? |
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| 04:44.48 | abrotman | Xenguy: not true |
| 04:44.48 | tabmoW | woody 3.0r4 |
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| 04:44.55 | abrotman | tabmoW: workstation? |
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| 04:45.03 | Xenguy | abrotman: undelete? |
| 04:45.07 | abrotman | !undelete |
| 04:45.07 | dpkg | from memory, undelete is great with Midnight Commander (mc). Just unmount the fs and select "Undelete files" in mc |
| 04:45.20 | tabmoW | abrotman: yer |
| 04:45.23 | abrotman | Xenguy: i think there is undelete for ext2/3 |
| 04:45.34 | Nurbs | not ext3 actually |
| 04:45.55 | Xenguy | abrotman: I believe that is ext2 only (at least I know it *used* to be the case) -- whether that has changed I don't know for certain |
| 04:46.02 | takatumi | xk: /dev/hda3 18875788 16707124 2168664 89% (maybe I should clean up) |
| 04:46.19 | tabmoW | abrocadabro: i just need to know what number ext3 FS is.. can't seem to find it |
| 04:46.26 | jstevens | takatumi, ... just maybe :-) |
| 04:46.37 | modeman | anyone running debian 2.4.18 or similar? |
| 04:46.46 | dondelelcaro | modeman: there's no such thing |
| 04:47.03 | abrotman | Xenguy: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Ext2fs-Undeletion-Dir-Struct/index.html |
| 04:47.07 | Xenguy | modeman: perhaps you mean a kernel version |
| 04:47.15 | modeman | yessir |
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| 04:47.29 | Xenguy | abrotman: it does say ext2, yes? :-) |
| 04:47.57 | abrotman | Xenguy: right .. but you can mount an ext3 drive as ext2 .. so possible maybe |
| 04:48.04 | modeman | Xenguy, i tried to install alsa and it failed horribly |
| 04:48.11 | Nurbs | abrotman: no, deletion works differently with ext3 |
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| 04:48.23 | jazzanova | hi |
| 04:48.32 | abrotman | tabmoW: i think with woody .. you have to install as ext2 then "upgrade" to ext3 |
| 04:48.32 | jazzanova | i have usb-storage loaded |
| 04:48.35 | khakane | if someone could help me make a php4 equivs deb to get me started, i would really appreciate it |
| 04:48.39 | Nurbs | abrotman: less information left. might be possible to restore it manually, though, with good knowledge, but no automated tools afaik |
| 04:48.39 | abrotman | !tell tabmoW about ext2->ext3 |
| 04:48.44 | khakane | gotta make my box think all the php4 junk is installed ;\ |
| 04:48.49 | Xenguy | abrotman: what Nurbs said - unless you *know* that this has changed, I would be careful |
| 04:49.05 | jazzanova | if a insert a usb device, and it supports usb-storage, should i expect a new disk to become available automatically ? |
| 04:49.10 | tabmoW | abrotman: ok cool |
| 04:49.18 | jazzanova | or do I still need to do something else ? |
| 04:49.23 | abrotman | Xenguy: i know .. |
| 04:49.38 | abrotman | jazzanova: dmesg .. is it there? |
| 04:49.40 | dabreegster | Do I need to recompile to get the fb penguin image @ bootup? I'm using grub. |
| 04:49.49 | jazzanova | the usb module says that it is there |
| 04:49.52 | takatumi | jazzanova: mount it. |
| 04:49.59 | jazzanova | no |
| 04:50.03 | jazzanova | there is no message about a disk |
| 04:50.07 | dondelelcaro | dabreegster: unless you have to have fb, you don't want it. |
| 04:50.08 | jazzanova | about sda or something like that |
| 04:50.19 | jazzanova | there is a message that i have a usb device connected |
| 04:50.28 | dabreegster | dondelelcaro: I know, I'm just messing around a lot. |
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| 04:50.31 | shingouz | dabreegster: and the image of tux is not needed for the fb to work |
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| 04:51.07 | shingouz | jazzanova: any mention about a scsi disk in dmesg? |
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| 04:51.37 | jazzanova | no, no mention. do i need to have some other modules loaded ? |
| 04:51.52 | jazzanova | it could be that this devices is not supported. it is an mp3 player |
| 04:51.53 | abrocadabro | tabmoW: don't know, fdisk doesn' t tell me |
| 04:52.19 | jazzanova | do i need some kind of ide-scsi loaded ? |
| 04:52.30 | shingouz | jazzanova: at least sg iirc. and the mp3 devices can be a bit problematic from time to time |
| 04:52.30 | takatumi | jazzanova: sd_mod |
| 04:52.43 | jazzanova | ok, wait |
| 04:52.44 | shingouz | sd_mod sounds good |
| 04:52.51 | brad | can someone tell me how to get debian to read my dvd drive to work with mplayer |
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| 04:52.58 | khakane | dh_installchangelogs: changelog parse failure |
| 04:53.02 | brad | it shows up as /dev/cdrom |
| 04:53.26 | shingouz | brad: you just need to tell it to use /cdrom (or whatever you have the dvd on) |
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| 04:54.01 | abrocadabro | brad: change it to /dev/hdc to see if you can get some luck |
| 04:54.14 | vt_deadhead | anyone know of any scripts/packages can be used to help ban IP's used in a brute force ssh attack? |
| 04:54.14 | modeman | could anyone help with an alsa installation? |
| 04:54.21 | brad | hdc? |
| 04:54.27 | abrotman | abrocadabro: see what happens when enough people misfire .. you start helping :) |
| 04:54.32 | shingouz | vt_deadhead: /etc/hosts.deny |
| 04:54.34 | jazzanova | same. |
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| 04:54.44 | jazzanova | do i need somekind of hotplug or something ? |
| 04:54.49 | brad | see this drive is actually a dvd+-rw |
| 04:54.51 | abrocadabro | brad:yes |
| 04:54.52 | shingouz | brad: what is the device you have the dvd on? |
| 04:54.55 | brad | but debian sees it as cdrom |
| 04:55.03 | brad | dev/cdrom |
| 04:55.05 | shingouz | brad: usually it is /dev/hdc on ide computers |
| 04:55.06 | Xenguy | vt_deadhead: /etc/ssh/sshd_config <- AllowUsers |
| 04:55.11 | abrocadabro | abrotman: it's probably my name abracadabra |
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| 04:55.14 | brad | this is a laptop |
| 04:55.25 | abrotman | heh |
| 04:55.26 | brad | dell inspiron 1150 |
| 04:55.34 | abrocadabro | brad: mine is thinkpad R50 |
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| 04:55.47 | shingouz | brad: mplayer is configured to default to /dev/cdrom and debian symlinks the cdrom to /cdrom. the symlink usually points to /dev/hdc |
| 04:56.00 | abrotman | shingouz: not quite |
| 04:56.10 | brad | so i still just would mount to dev/cdrom to hdc? |
| 04:56.15 | shingouz | abrotman: uh? |
| 04:56.18 | abrotman | shingouz: debian symlinks /dev/cdrom to /dev/hdx .. and /cdrom is the mountpoint |
| 04:56.32 | shingouz | abrotman: ok, i stand corrected |
| 04:56.37 | abrocadabro | mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom |
| 04:56.47 | brad | so how would i create symlink to just /dvd liek mplaye wants by default |
| 04:56.47 | abrotman | shingouz: and i think in sarge .. it's now /media/cdrom |
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| 04:57.13 | shingouz | brad: man ln |
| 04:57.18 | abrocadabro | in sarge, /dev/hdc is mounted to /media/cdrom I think |
| 04:57.20 | quitte | /media/cdrom0 where /media/cdrom and /cdrom point to |
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| 04:57.36 | abrotman | check /etc/fstab |
| 04:57.41 | abrocadabro | quite true |
| 04:58.00 | helio7 | I got an old Ibm thinkpad 233 mhz, 48mb RAM, and a 4Gb HDD, you think it would run Debian-Woody satisfactorily?? |
| 04:58.18 | jstevens | brad: one second. I know your issue, caus I had it... one second as I find the fix I had to do. |
| 04:58.19 | abrotman | helio7: yes .. and possibly sarge as well |
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| 04:58.25 | shingouz | helio7: thinkpad 600? yes, very nicely |
| 04:58.31 | quitte | helio7 yes use sarge |
| 04:58.44 | abrotman | !d-i helio7 |
| 04:58.45 | dpkg | helio7, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 04:58.49 | helio7 | sarge is pre-woody/ It's a thinkpad 380dx |
| 04:58.54 | quitte | helio7: and get more ram for it |
| 04:59.03 | slackd00d | sarge is pre woody? |
| 04:59.07 | quitte | no sarge is testing |
| 04:59.12 | shingouz | helio7: sarge is not pre-woody, it is post woody |
| 04:59.13 | abrotman | slackd00d: no |
| 04:59.17 | jstevens | brad: your on Sarge, right? |
| 04:59.23 | abrotman | you're |
| 04:59.34 | slackd00d | abrotman, i know its not, helio7 said it was |
| 04:59.34 | jstevens | brad: you're on Sarge, right? |
| 04:59.40 | jstevens | :-) |
| 04:59.50 | takatumi | !win jstevens |
| 04:59.50 | dpkg | Congratulations, jstevens! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 05:00.00 | abrotman | !release |
| 05:00.00 | dpkg | When is release ... the official answer: "Debian has a strict policy of never announcing release dates; therefore, the release date for ``sarge'' is not yet known.", or Stable release is "woody" (3.0), Testing release is "sarge", following that will be "etch" |
| 05:00.24 | chealer | !releases |
| 05:00.25 | dpkg | releases is probably http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 05:00.28 | abrotman | slackd00d: you put the question mark on there :) |
| 05:00.42 | jstevens | takatumi, LOL, already got that, I decline... what's the other option? |
| 05:00.43 | slackd00d | i know..because i was asking him =) |
| 05:00.49 | shingouz | helio7: linux runs very nicely on thinkpads in general, the only things you want to be careful with are lmsensors which should not be enabled on some older thinkpads, namely the tp600 and the mwave sound on even older tp's like the 760 and 750 series. the mwave sound will nto work easily |
| 05:00.50 | jstevens | takatumi, :-) |
| 05:00.56 | slackd00d | or baffled by what he said |
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| 05:02.05 | quitte | shingouz: mwave is the modem. sound is a cs24xx or something like that |
| 05:02.18 | jstevens | brad: if you simply make the links, they will go away on a reboot... at least that is what was happening to me |
| 05:02.24 | shingouz | quitte: some thinkpads have even mwave sound |
| 05:02.31 | quitte | ok |
| 05:02.55 | shingouz | quitte: iirc the sound on the tp380 is cs4232 which should be done with alsa |
| 05:03.02 | helio7 | thanks for the feedback all (= much appreciated |
| 05:03.17 | chealer | I'm trying to upgrade gaim from 1.1.2 to 1.1.3 and get dependency problems as often (my default release is sarge). as I think is recommended, I use apt-get -t unstable install gaim. however that asks me to remove aspell-en, because libaspell15 |
| 05:03.25 | chealer | oops |
| 05:03.39 | chealer | sorry forget that question draft for now |
| 05:03.47 | dondelelcaro | chealer: don't upgrade gaim then... ;-) |
| 05:03.52 | abrotman | and don't mix |
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| 05:03.55 | shingouz | helio7: you will love the thinkpad. make a bootable dos floppy with the ps2utils unless you want to make a custom kernel with tpctl in it to get all possible functionality with the laptop |
| 05:03.58 | Ronan151 | whats up guys |
| 05:04.16 | shingouz | Ronan151: nothing, we sleep |
| 05:04.23 | chealer | dondelelcaro: come on...I just do that for firefox, gaim and synaptic (pretty much ;) ) |
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| 05:04.29 | jazzanova | do you know the name of this small laptop that is about a size of a diary ? |
| 05:04.34 | Ronan151 | does anyone know of a program that will alow me to view .rom files? |
| 05:04.35 | abrotman | lifebook ? |
| 05:04.38 | dondelelcaro | jazzanova: psion? |
| 05:04.46 | abrotman | jazzanova: fujitsu lifebook ? |
| 05:04.50 | jazzanova | psion maby, hmm. |
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| 05:04.58 | jazzanova | i will look up picture online |
| 05:05.03 | shingouz | jazzanova: ibm pc110 or workpad 50 |
| 05:05.19 | underdog | guys, can anyone tell me what's wrong with xfonts-nexus package? why won't the fonts display on my font dialog? |
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| 05:05.34 | jazzanova | thanks, i would look them al lup |
| 05:05.39 | abrotman | jazzanova: http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/PrdBridge.jsp?pclass=P |
| 05:05.40 | jazzanova | its around $2000 |
| 05:06.13 | abrotman | jazzanova: and also |
| 05:06.18 | shingouz | jazzanova: the pc110 is/was a japan-only pda/laptop that is smaller than a vhs tape |
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| 05:06.20 | Ronan151 | does anyone know about .rom files? |
| 05:06.21 | abrotman | jazzanova: http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?series=P1 |
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| 05:06.40 | jazzanova | thanks a lot guys |
| 05:06.46 | shingouz | np |
| 05:06.51 | abrotman | those lifebooks .. 2.2lbs .. jeez |
| 05:07.02 | jstevens | lifebooks are sweet |
| 05:07.16 | shingouz | abrotman: sneeze hard and the lifebook is on the floor |
| 05:07.26 | jstevens | LOL |
| 05:07.34 | abrotman | shingouz: yeah .. pretty much |
| 05:07.44 | abrotman | shingouz: not like a toughbook .. that's for sure |
| 05:07.56 | shingouz | i still like my compaq contura aeros which are smaller than the lifebooks :) |
| 05:08.13 | chealer | I'm trying to upgrade gaim from 1.1.2 to 1.1.3 and get dependency problems as often (my default release is sarge). as I think is recommended, I use apt-get -t unstable install gaim. however that asks me to remove aspell-en, but I can't figure out why (that seems to be related to libaspell15 though) |
| 05:08.37 | jstevens | I like my zaurus.. it's smaller than the lifebook too... |
| 05:08.37 | abrotman | chealer: don't mix .. don't upgrade |
| 05:08.41 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: or http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?series=P1 |
| 05:08.50 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: my second link ? |
| 05:08.55 | chealer | it's already mixed anyway |
| 05:08.59 | shingouz | jstevens: i hate you, you have a smaller computer than i have |
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| 05:09.02 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: oh, sorry... didn't catch that one |
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| 05:09.04 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: yeah .. the second link i gave him |
| 05:09.17 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i'd lose that thing :) |
| 05:09.20 | underdog | guys, can anyone tell me what's wrong with xfonts-nexus package? why won't the fonts display on my font dialog? |
| 05:09.28 | jstevens | shingouz: it's a PHP/Apache web server... |
| 05:09.45 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: heh. I actually used to wander around with an 8080 that's even smaller than that one |
| 05:09.55 | shingouz | jstevens: and has about a gigazillion megaflops too i guess |
| 05:09.58 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: but 2.2lbs! |
| 05:10.07 | jstevens | shing: naah |
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| 05:10.18 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yeah, my wallet has weighed that much |
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| 05:10.32 | jstevens | shingouz, it's battery life blows though... |
| 05:10.40 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: heh |
| 05:10.46 | jstevens | *its, not it's |
| 05:11.00 | vt_deadhead | there's gotta be some fun we can have with these ssh script kiddies ... some sort of honey pot (that returns a fake shell) |
| 05:11.05 | shingouz | jstevens: so i've heard from other sources too. pity the damn things are so expensive at the time :( |
| 05:11.25 | chealer | I forgot to say, that's the important thing that apt-get tells me : The following packages will be REMOVED: aspell-en |
| 05:11.25 | chealer | The following packages will be upgraded: gaim gaim-data libaspell15 libstartup-notification0 |
| 05:11.38 | shingouz | vt_deadhead: just be a nice guy and upgrade their box remotely to a doorstop ;) |
| 05:11.50 | jstevens | shingouz, yeah, no doubt, I paid $300 ... hind-sight says it wasn't worth it.. but what can you say, you know |
| 05:11.58 | vt_deadhead | shingouz: haha |
| 05:12.03 | shingouz | chealer: what happens if you remove aspell-en? |
| 05:12.12 | abrotman | chealer: either do it .. or don't .. stop complaining .. this is why you shouldn't mix sources |
| 05:12.24 | shingouz | jstevens: yea, we are geeks i guess. the more toys the better |
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| 05:12.43 | jstevens | shingouz, sounds familiar |
| 05:12.49 | chealer | shingouz: it will probably work, I just don't understand why it would. I'm asking because I think I may be missing something about apt-get's bahvior with target-release |
| 05:13.19 | shingouz | chealer: listen to abrotman, he is quite right about mixing sources |
| 05:13.27 | abrotman | chealer: either do it .. or don't .. stop complaining .. this is why you shouldn't mix sources |
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| 05:13.32 | chealer | abrotman: so you're saying that apt-get doesn't handle mixed sources well right? |
| 05:13.46 | abrotman | chealer: weird things can happen .. as you're seeing |
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| 05:14.15 | shingouz | chealer: apt handles them but the sources have differencies that are not too easily corrected. it is either do or don't do |
| 05:14.24 | chealer | ok. I thought the weird things were because the system had versions not made to work together, not because of apt-get |
| 05:14.50 | abrotman | that is why |
| 05:14.57 | slocate | anybody how to set which browser to launch when gnome-terminal sees an URL? |
| 05:15.13 | abrotman | slocate: set your preferred app ? |
| 05:15.24 | chealer | abrotman: to make sure I understand you, what's "that"? |
| 05:15.38 | abrotman | chealer: they don't always work together ... |
| 05:15.42 | takatumi | slocate: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
| 05:15.49 | abrotman | chealer: mixing sources is a very bad idea unless oyu know how to fix it |
| 05:15.50 | shingouz | thou should nto mix sources |
| 05:15.53 | abrotman | takatumi: gnome ignores iirc |
| 05:15.56 | kingsley_ | What's a good quicktime player? |
| 05:16.07 | chealer | abrotman: that's not what I'm "complaining" about though. I really wouldn't |
| 05:16.08 | takatumi | abrotman: that sucks. |
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| 05:16.24 | dreammer_ | how does determine the driver load order... and then how does one change it--if one suspects it is causing problems? -- see http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/01/msg04360.html |
| 05:16.28 | abrotman | !mixed system |
| 05:16.28 | dpkg | [mixed system] Read section 3.8 "How to keep a mixed system" of the APT HOWTO at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html (better yet, read the whole thing! :) |
| 05:17.01 | abrotman | slocate: Desktop Preferecnes -> Advanced -> Preferred Applications |
| 05:17.07 | jstevens | dreamer: IMO... put the drivers you need into /etc/modules in the order you want them |
| 05:17.20 | abrotman | dreammer_: preload etc .. |
| 05:17.25 | jstevens | dreammer_: IMO... put the drivers you need into /etc/modules in the order you want them |
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| 05:17.39 | underdog | guys, can anyone tell me what's wrong with xfonts-nexus package? why won't the fonts display on my font dialog? |
| 05:17.43 | slocate | freenode~abrotman: don't use gnome, just gnome-terminal |
| 05:18.00 | jstevens | too bad tab to auto complete doesn't work correctly all the time.... |
| 05:18.02 | abrotman | slocate: uhm .. well .. i still think that's how you're gonna set it |
| 05:18.20 | Ungy | ok I got a problem I am looking for suggestions on how to solve it I have a large file when I attempt to transfer it from a windows machine to a linux server it fails after abotu 350 Megabytes so I split it up with winzip but unzip doesn;t have multifile support I am looking for suggestions on how to make this work without me waiting til monday to get to this server and bring a cd |
| 05:18.21 | dreammer_ | just wondering... do the modules in '/etc/modules' get loaded after built in modules? |
| 05:18.24 | abrotman | slocate: gnome-default-applications-properties |
| 05:18.53 | abrotman | built in modules ? |
| 05:18.59 | jstevens | dreammer_, modules aren't build in |
| 05:19.01 | jstevens | dreamm |
| 05:19.02 | slocate | freenode~abrotman: yeah, that's if you run gnome |
| 05:19.07 | shingouz | Ungy: what did you use for the transfer? |
| 05:19.12 | abrotman | slocate: do you have the app installed ? |
| 05:19.21 | Xenguy | Ungy: how large is the file, and why is it failing? |
| 05:19.24 | jstevens | dreammer_, drivers are either built in, or they are modules |
| 05:19.24 | abrotman | !find gnome-default-applications-properties |
| 05:19.28 | dreammer_ | i'm trying to figure out why when i do /proc/asound/cards -- i only get one device |
| 05:19.30 | Ungy | shingouz Aceftp |
| 05:19.31 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gnome-default-applications-properties' (2 shown): (/usr/bin/gnome-default-applications-properties) in gnome/capplets ;; (/usr/share/control-center-2.0/interfaces/gnome-default-applications-properties.glade) in gnome/capplets-data. |
| 05:19.44 | Ungy | Xenguy 430+ Megs |
| 05:20.11 | Xenguy | Ungy: is there an error message at all? |
| 05:20.31 | slocate | freenode~abrotman: nope, don't have it |
| 05:20.34 | Ungy | Xenuguy no it just craps out I have tried it 7 times |
| 05:20.36 | dreammer_ | to know what i mean... it is posted on the list --- here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/01/msg04360.html |
| 05:20.41 | abrotman | slocate: then try what takatumi said |
| 05:20.57 | slocate | thnks though |
| 05:20.59 | Xenguy | Ungy: you've got lots of room on the linux box? |
| 05:21.00 | Ungy | Xenguy however when I split it it transfered fine |
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| 05:21.08 | shingouz | Ungy: try scp then, there is some client for doze too on the internet |
| 05:21.36 | chealer | abrotman: that only says that sid should not be used by inexperienced users or by those who need proven stability... I don't need stability and am IMHO not inexperienced. |
| 05:21.43 | takatumi | !sing abrotman |
| 05:21.43 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
| 05:21.46 | abrotman | chealer: then don't mix |
| 05:21.48 | Ungy | shingouz hmm scp from my linux box? |
| 05:21.53 | abrotman | takatumi: yes .. but i still need sleep :) |
| 05:22.14 | shingouz | Ungy: didnt you say you had the file on the windows box and you wanted it onto linux |
| 05:22.44 | Xenguy | Ungy: it might be possible to simply transfer the split zip files, unzip them all, then use cat to glue them back together in one file (I have done this successfully before once) |
| 05:22.52 | shingouz | Ungy: windows doesnt have ssh or scp installed by default afaik |
| 05:23.01 | Ungy | yes but I could transfer to the server sitting next to me I suppose I could probably split it their too damn I think I need to get more sleep |
| 05:23.17 | shingouz | Ungy: or more caffeine |
| 05:23.34 | Ungy | Xenguy I have never used cat before I have all files there |
| 05:24.22 | tabmoW | my screen flashes on my laptop after the install... i used linux video=vga16:off to install fine - should i add some params to lilo or something to fix this? |
| 05:24.26 | Ungy | and attempting to unzip isn;t working? |
| 05:24.39 | jstevens | dreammer_, Wow ... I don't know, good luck! |
| 05:25.06 | Xenguy | Ungy: ahh, OK, so you can't 'unzip' those chunks then? |
| 05:25.15 | Ungy | nope |
| 05:25.19 | dreammer_ | does lsmod list the modules in load order? |
| 05:25.28 | Ungy | maybe cat the chunks then unzip? |
| 05:25.33 | shingouz | tabmoW: what do you have in lilo.conf at the moment as the vga-parameter and append-line |
| 05:25.35 | jstevens | dreammer_, nope |
| 05:25.40 | Xenguy | Ungy: you could try... |
| 05:25.52 | Xenguy | Ungy: I have no idea if that will work or not... |
| 05:26.02 | Ungy | worth a try though |
| 05:26.10 | tabmoW | shingouz: i am trying to boot a shell from the rescue disk... hang on |
| 05:26.16 | shingouz | Ungy: or use scp as i said. you need to get the appropriate software for windows though |
| 05:26.17 | Xenguy | Ungy: so -> cat zip1.zip zip2.zip zip3.zip > zipall.zip |
| 05:26.19 | jstevens | dreammer_, never figured out how it determines the order.. but I know it's not load order |
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| 05:26.34 | Xenguy | Ungy: then -> unzip zipall.zip |
| 05:26.40 | jstevens | dreammer_, you may need to sort back through dmesg to find that |
| 05:26.47 | shingouz | Ungy: ...and cross your fingers ;) |
| 05:26.52 | Xenguy | heheh |
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| 05:27.22 | Ungy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:27.43 | dreammer_ | my dmesg... is junk for some reason... |
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| 05:28.11 | jstevens | damn |
| 05:28.26 | tabmoW | where is the lilo.conf by default on debian? |
| 05:28.28 | khakane | i seem to have lost /usr/bin/apxs2 what can i do to put it back? |
| 05:28.31 | dreammer_ | get a bunch of stuff about the router's IP... no useful messages |
| 05:28.37 | Xenguy | tabmoW: /etc/lilo.conf |
| 05:28.41 | jstevens | tab: in /etc |
| 05:28.55 | dreammer_ | all config files are in '/etc' |
| 05:28.59 | jstevens | I think I'm way too used to using bitchx |
| 05:29.22 | Xenguy | jstevens: what are you using now? |
| 05:29.35 | jstevens | tabmoW, unles you are using grub |
| 05:29.39 | tabmoW | shingouz: i have vga=normal and nothing for append |
| 05:29.44 | jstevens | tabmoW, Xchat |
| 05:29.53 | jstevens | Xenguy, Xchat |
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| 05:30.11 | slackd00d | where would i put a script to get it loaded as my network at boot? i have a bash script that modprobes ndiswrapper and sets the settings up for it and dhcpcd, but /etc/network/interfaces doesnt look like the right place |
| 05:30.21 | Xenguy | jstevens: try irssi - best console client IMHO |
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| 05:31.06 | Xenguy | jstevens: takes a bit of getting used to, but well worth the curve |
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| 05:31.18 | khakane | ah got it |
| 05:31.28 | Ungy | Xenguy shingouz it worked thanks |
| 05:31.32 | shingouz | tabmoW: what do you mean when you say the screen flashes and what laptop you have there? |
| 05:31.32 | jstevens | Xenguy, I like BitchX from an SSh window... but want a graphical view when I can (eg, when I'm not in winblows) |
| 05:31.39 | shingouz | Ungy: way to go, man :) |
| 05:31.44 | jstevens | Xenguy, I'll look that one up now... |
| 05:31.48 | Xenguy | Ungy: hah! that's hilarious :-) |
| 05:32.10 | Ungy | at least whoever works on the unzip package can add support |
| 05:32.27 | dreammer_ | welll.... i just unload the modules... going to try reloading 'em... |
| 05:32.44 | tabmoW | shingouz: Asus M6R and the screen just constantly flashes but i can see what is happening |
| 05:33.20 | dreammer_ | darn... that didn't make a difference... still sound just on the right speaker |
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| 05:35.46 | shingouz | tabmoW: how about put the video whatever line you used to the append and rerun lilo? |
| 05:36.39 | tabmoW | ok |
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| 05:37.23 | shingouz | tabmoW: i recall seeing something like that on some laptop before, it corrected itself automagically when i installed a "better" kernel to replace the install kernel |
| 05:37.43 | tabmoW | no such luck here, i get a kernel panic |
| 05:37.48 | shingouz | tabmoW: i dont remember what laptop it was but it was not an asus, that i am sure of |
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| 05:38.32 | dreammer_ | tabmoW... i remember something about display probs... |
| 05:38.42 | shingouz | tabmoW: in that case remove the append, rerun lilo and install another kernel, maybe that corrects it |
| 05:39.09 | tabmoW | shingouz: i can't load up the system at all, how am i supposed to install another kernel? |
| 05:39.21 | dreammer_ | did you use the framebuffer...? |
| 05:39.27 | dreammer_ | http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/debian-boot-200401/msg01530.html |
| 05:39.49 | dreammer_ | i have step by step install instructions here --> http://individual.utoronto.ca/bonert/debian_install.html |
| 05:39.49 | shingouz | tabmoW: from the rescue disk, just run rescue root=/dev/whateveryouhaveasrootpartition |
| 05:40.08 | shingouz | also.. |
| 05:40.10 | shingouz | !laptop |
| 05:40.11 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/ |
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| 05:41.03 | shingouz | tabmoW: lots of instructions there, most of the linux-laptop stuff is step by step installs on specific laptops, check them out too, they might have the answer |
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| 05:43.55 | hikaru79 | Hey, I've just installed Debian Sarge and I'm trying to install the NVidia driver, but it seems that nvidia-kernel-source and common and glx have been pulled from the repositories |
| 05:44.11 | hikaru79 | Any ideas how to do this without having to download from sid? |
| 05:44.16 | hikaru79 | Some way to get around it, perhaps? |
| 05:44.37 | shingouz | !tell hikaru79 about nvidia |
| 05:45.29 | hikaru79 | shingouz, that's what I've *BEEN* reading. But the packages that that guide refers to has been pulled from the repository |
| 05:45.39 | shingouz | hmm |
| 05:45.59 | shingouz | one thing i am certain of is that you do not want to run a mixed system |
| 05:46.00 | hikaru79 | There's no more nvidia-kernel-common or nvidia-kernel-source or nvidia-glx in Sarge |
| 05:46.15 | hikaru79 | "mixed system"? AKA sid/sarge? |
| 05:46.20 | shingouz | yes |
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| 05:46.24 | hikaru79 | Agreed |
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| 05:47.22 | shingouz | hikaru79: i get the feeling you have to get the kernel sources from kernel.org and the nvidia-thingies from nvidia, then do the kernel the usual way with make-kpkg |
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| 05:47.40 | Ronan151 | how do you install themes in KDE? |
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| 05:47.54 | shingouz | Ronan151: #debian-kde |
| 05:47.57 | takatumi | hikaru79: try /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 05:48.09 | Ronan151 | got it |
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| 05:48.53 | hikaru79 | takatumi, I don't want to add sid repositories to my sources.list |
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| 05:49.13 | shingouz | hikaru79: in that case kernel.org and nvidia :( |
| 05:49.23 | hikaru79 | =/ |
| 05:49.35 | takatumi | or grab the packages frm p.d.o |
| 05:49.54 | shingouz | hikaru79: the compile runs the same in anycase so you do not have problems that are weird or anything |
| 05:50.06 | shingouz | takatumi: p.d.o? |
| 05:50.16 | takatumi | packages.debian.org |
| 05:50.20 | shingouz | ah |
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| 05:52.43 | EtherNet | hello, how do I set up my MIDI device (running KDE) artsd, cause it says /dev/sequencer not ready, or in use... so it's not configured, any idea? |
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| 05:53.23 | shingouz | #debian-kde perhaps, EtherNet? |
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| 05:53.57 | Ronan151 | ok, i loaded GNOME but it said that it detected a menu already running and said it will close now, and now i dont have a menubar? |
| 05:54.07 | Ronan151 | how do i get it back |
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| 06:00.19 | ChubSRV | hi I ran testdisk.. it gives me partition sector dosent have the endmark 0xAA55 run MBR code in testdisk to correct it.. if I do it can I render it unusable ?? |
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| 06:08.04 | wgq | help |
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| 06:08.27 | Central2k3 | i need some help if anyone knows knoppix??? |
| 06:10.02 | wgq | quit |
| 06:10.04 | wgq | %% |
| 06:10.06 | wgq | %c |
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| 06:10.35 | vulture | Central2k3: perhaps #knoppix would be more appropriate.. |
| 06:11.12 | shingouz | !topicsmite Central2k3 |
| 06:11.13 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Central2k3. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 06:11.42 | shingouz | wgq: what are you trying to do? |
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| 06:12.01 | Meowfaceman | Hey, is anyone having trouble with gdm? |
| 06:12.08 | valdyn | !polls |
| 06:12.08 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 06:12.11 | sussudio | !irritate Meowfaceman |
| 06:12.12 | dpkg | Meowfaceman: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? who uses cable hello? |
| 06:12.17 | shingouz | Meowfaceman: no, should we? |
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| 06:12.30 | shingouz | !ask |
| 06:12.31 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 06:12.40 | Central2k3 | any used knppix std? |
| 06:12.47 | valdyn | jesus |
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| 06:12.56 | shingouz | Central2k3: do you have problems reading? |
| 06:13.25 | shingouz | Central2k3: i do not use knoppix sexually transmitted disease |
| 06:13.56 | Central2k3 | its security tools distrobution |
| 06:14.07 | shingouz | !tell Central2k3 about knoppix |
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| 06:14.09 | Meowfaceman | I guess not then. Acting weird for me, just making sure it wasn't broken. |
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| 06:14.31 | valdyn | Meowfaceman: bugs.debian.org |
| 06:15.08 | Central2k3 | its open source regardless i just wanted to know what peoples opinion of a knoppix std apache / cs server |
| 06:15.30 | vulture | Central2k3: off topic, smeg off.. |
| 06:15.30 | shingouz | Central2k3: are you making an effort on being that stupid? |
| 06:16.14 | Central2k3 | !tell shingouz i was just trying to find some help, nevermind |
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| 06:16.36 | shingouz | weapos-grade stupidity ffs... |
| 06:16.43 | vulture | indeed |
| 06:16.45 | shingouz | weapons-grade even |
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| 06:17.39 | shingouz | after all that knopix-crap i need a smoke, brb ;) |
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| 06:19.51 | dud | that shit was almost bash worthy... |
| 06:20.11 | dud | if there was an even more geekier version of bash or something ;/ |
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| 06:25.50 | xk | can I use dd without the count arg without problems? |
| 06:27.14 | mwilson | Does anyone get to know what you're going to use it FOR, or does someone have to guess? |
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| 06:28.24 | xk | mwilson: oh. I'm using it to read all the data from /dev/hdc (dvd drive, dvd-r media) and feeding it to md5sum |
| 06:28.28 | xk | but... growisofs appears to be adding more data than the actual image. |
| 06:28.39 | xk | so I wanted to use dd to limit it... but it did less than I expected. |
| 06:29.05 | mwilson | Why would you care what growisofs does? |
| 06:29.15 | xk | mwilson: so I know if the media is corrupted or not |
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| 06:29.25 | xk | like my last dvd burn |
| 06:29.34 | xk | I always verify if the md5sum matches or not. |
| 06:30.08 | xk | it is reliable, until I had to ugprade to 2.6.x and use growisofs instad. |
| 06:30.21 | mwilson | Meaning it's not reliable, then. |
| 06:30.58 | xk | and you're saying to me that if you assume your hardware is 100%, you shouldn't verify things? |
| 06:31.16 | shingouz | xk: another solution wuold be to go back to 2.4 if it worked perfectly there <shrug> |
| 06:31.26 | xk | shingouz: and lose support for my dvb-t card. |
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| 06:31.49 | mwilson | No, I'm saying that if the hardware is unreliable enough that you have to verify and re-burn every image, replace it with better hardware. |
| 06:31.51 | xk | the system is weird aswell... after a while, anything that uses a timer just loses track. |
| 06:31.54 | shingouz | what can i say |
| 06:32.12 | xk | eggy: firefox throbber, lftp eta status, xmms visualization |
| 06:32.18 | xk | er. |
| 06:32.25 | shingouz | custom kernel? |
| 06:32.42 | xk | shingouz: yes. 2.6.11-rc4 and 2.6.10-ac1... happened with 2.6.7 aswell |
| 06:33.13 | shingouz | xk: i get the feeling you have not the config quite right then if the system acts weird as you say |
| 06:33.16 | xk | I tried changing /dev/gpmdata to /dev/input/mice... it appeared to work... but I didn't trash my system that much. |
| 06:33.46 | xk | shingouz: I've used linux for 10 years... and always compiled my own kernel... so I know what I'm doing... well... most of the time :) |
| 06:33.57 | xk | c735a66da61e7e196ab0904c91612d49 |
| 06:33.58 | xk | ::: dd bs=172461 if=/dev/hdc | md5sum |
| 06:33.59 | xk | c735a66da61e7e196ab0904c91612d49 - |
| 06:34.02 | xk | there we go... md5sum matched. |
| 06:34.21 | eggy | huh? |
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| 06:34.35 | xk | eggy: crappy bitch nick completion when I didn't intend to do it. |
| 06:34.41 | valdyn | xk: lucky you have enough ram / the image is so small |
| 06:34.45 | eggy | okie ;) |
| 06:34.52 | shingouz | xk: having used linux for ten years doesnt mean you get the kernel configs right every time unfortunately. check it out just to be sure |
| 06:35.09 | valdyn | xk: err, nm |
| 06:35.18 | xk | 2.6.x isn't known to be the most stable kernel branch in the world. |
| 06:35.30 | shingouz | it's getting there... |
| 06:35.35 | xk | it works fine on my non-SMP systems as a server... but my SMP desktop system is just.... weird. |
| 06:35.57 | shingouz | my smp "desktop" runs nicely on 2.6.9 |
| 06:36.03 | xk | then again... I always have to e2fsck my other system every few weeks since it just wants to corrupt the journal all the time. |
| 06:36.23 | xk | shingouz: weird.... hrm.. |
| 06:36.30 | xk | maybe it's my weird FSB speed that's causing it |
| 06:36.31 | shingouz | dual p1-133 |
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| 06:36.56 | xk | I'll upgrade the procs once I can source the processors, heh. |
| 06:37.03 | mwilson | Weird FSB? |
| 06:37.06 | shingouz | could be. unweird the FSB to check if that is the reason |
| 06:37.13 | xk | mwilson: yeah, overclocked celerons. |
| 06:37.26 | xk | 83mhz fsb |
| 06:37.27 | shingouz | *dual*celerons? |
| 06:37.31 | xk | shingouz: yeah. |
| 06:37.33 | mwilson | Gee, you're overclocking and you wonder why things are broken. |
| 06:37.43 | xk | yeah, heh. |
| 06:37.49 | fooz | it's xk |
| 06:37.56 | shingouz | celeries do not support smp on their own. did you hack the cpus to get smp then? |
| 06:38.10 | mwilson | shingouz: Sure they do. Not all of them, but some. |
| 06:38.14 | xk | shingouz: yeah. they're slot-1 procs... just needed a bit of drilling and soldering and she works ;) |
| 06:38.29 | xk | but I'm going to upgrade them to coppermines when I can find them. |
| 06:38.37 | mwilson | xk: There's no such thing as a slot-1 Celeron. |
| 06:38.39 | shingouz | ....and he complains about a system that acts weird? :) |
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| 06:38.44 | xk | mwilson: want to make a bet? |
| 06:38.44 | mwilson | Oh, old ones. |
| 06:39.08 | mwilson | No, I didn't catch that they were old enough to not be Coppermine. |
| 06:39.10 | xk | pre 400mhz ones. |
| 06:39.20 | shingouz | that system has to outweird my "desktop" by at least 200% then |
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| 06:39.30 | mwilson | And you waste your time doing this because...? |
| 06:39.43 | xk | waste what time? |
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| 06:39.52 | xk | waste it on what? |
| 06:40.01 | mwilson | Backchecking a system you've deliberately made unstable. |
| 06:40.24 | xk | yeah... it wasn't a problem on 2.4.x |
| 06:40.36 | xk | although xmms did halt its visualization here and there... |
| 06:40.44 | mwilson | You mean it wasn't a problem you could SEE on 2.4 |
| 06:40.53 | xk | ;) |
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| 06:41.54 | xk | we'll see in a month's or so time. |
| 06:42.05 | xk | there's a high probability that it is the weird fsb causing the problems. |
| 06:42.11 | shingouz | in the meantime get a bigger hammer ;) |
| 06:42.31 | mwilson | Wow... what a concept. Overclocking causing instability. |
| 06:42.38 | jagerman | No! |
| 06:42.39 | xk | heh |
| 06:43.27 | AwesomeMachine | I oc my pentium 4 3.2 ghz by 500 mhz on air |
| 06:43.52 | xk | pentium 4 with builtin hotplate. |
| 06:44.03 | valdyn | overclocking just your cpu is like a completely different thing than overclocking your fsb |
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| 06:44.38 | AwesomeMachine | you can't hack an intel |
| 06:44.39 | xk | valdyn: well, if the CPUs are not multiplier locked, then yeah. |
| 06:45.18 | valdyn | xk: not what i mean, overclocking cpu works often and is relatively easy to get right, overclocking fsb is just ugly. |
| 06:45.27 | AwesomeMachine | I used to ulock athlon thoroughbreds |
| 06:45.38 | xk | you have to increase your FSB to increase the clock of the CPU |
| 06:45.40 | valdyn | xk: now if you have to overclock your fsb to overclock your cpu, just dont do it |
| 06:46.20 | xk | well... I can wait a month's time to source coppermine CPUs... but it's pretty much impossible to find. |
| 06:46.34 | xk | or I could just upgrade my system to a hotplate. |
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| 06:47.32 | jagerman | I've discovered I'd rather acheive silence than an extra couple hundred MHz |
| 06:47.47 | xk | hrm. |
| 06:48.14 | AwesomeMachine | I like the extra heat in winter |
| 06:48.23 | xk | I'd have the coppermines if it wasn't for intel dumping 933mhz coppermines onto fc-pga2 |
| 06:48.37 | shingouz | AwesomeMachine: get yourself a 21-inch tube and you have all the heat you can handle |
| 06:48.49 | AwesomeMachine | are coppermines pentium 4's? |
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| 06:49.08 | AwesomeMachine | skin, I have 2 21" tubes |
| 06:49.10 | xk | AwesomeMachine: pentium 3 |
| 06:49.20 | AwesomeMachine | ok |
| 06:49.40 | shingouz | AwesomeMachine: nice, i only have one on this computer. there's three more in this room though |
| 06:50.01 | AwesomeMachine | well, they aren't both on one computer |
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| 06:50.21 | AwesomeMachine | I kind of want to try dual headed |
| 06:50.35 | shingouz | yea, the desk should be made of steel or something to support all the hardware |
| 06:50.44 | AwesomeMachine | lol :) |
| 06:51.14 | AwesomeMachine | I looked at some flat panels and I like crt better |
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| 06:51.18 | shingouz | the old sony i have here weighs enough to make my desk sag slightly after a few years |
| 06:51.28 | xk | are there any deb sarge/testing sources for mythtv? |
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| 06:51.54 | xk | I've got a 1994 17" sony here... after my 19" mitsubishi died. |
| 06:52.13 | AwesomeMachine | xk: apt-cache search mythtv |
| 06:52.32 | xk | AwesomeMachine: not in debian. |
| 06:52.41 | xk | there are woody and sid packages... but no testing/sarge :( |
| 06:52.43 | AwesomeMachine | but I guess that will only work if you run sarge |
| 06:53.00 | AwesomeMachine | what is mythtv? |
| 06:53.01 | shingouz | the old sonys are pretty much indestructible it seems, mine was made in 95 and has seen use as a cad station on a vax for years |
| 06:53.20 | AwesomeMachine | I have an hp from 1974 |
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| 06:53.23 | AwesomeMachine | 1994 |
| 06:53.32 | AwesomeMachine | oops |
| 06:53.38 | shingouz | 1974 would be a bit lod i guess |
| 06:53.43 | shingouz | old even |
| 06:53.45 | AwesomeMachine | old even |
| 06:53.48 | AwesomeMachine | lol |
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| 06:58.30 | xk | 22megs just to install freevo. now that's bloat. |
| 06:59.14 | xk | stuff that. I'll write my own lame scripts. |
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| 06:59.46 | AwesomeMachine | you can tell you are addicted to chat if your friend tells you a joke and you say "/me smiles" |
| 07:00.04 | shingouz | :) |
| 07:00.20 | jagerman | Or addicted to instant messaging if you say "lowl" |
| 07:00.37 | AwesomeMachine | yeah |
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| 07:00.56 | shingouz | it's pretty bad if you balance your checkbook in hex too |
| 07:01.15 | jagerman | Even the decimal portion? :) |
| 07:01.20 | shingouz | of course |
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| 07:01.51 | jagerman | Damn base-10 money systems |
| 07:01.54 | AwesomeMachine | you can tell you are a redneck if you ever had to climb a water tower to defend your sister's honor |
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| 07:02.52 | AwesomeMachine | anybody ever heard of the guyble? |
| 07:03.08 | shingouz | what/who is that then |
| 07:03.21 | AwesomeMachine | it's www.guyble.com |
| 07:03.30 | AwesomeMachine | it's cool |
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| 07:04.58 | shingouz | hehehe. is that geekporn then ;) |
| 07:05.03 | AwesomeMachine | wb SoS |
| 07:05.12 | AwesomeMachine | yeah |
| 07:06.13 | shingouz | your favorite i guess |
| 07:06.30 | AwesomeMachine | It's a good one |
| 07:06.43 | shingouz | looks like it for sure |
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| 07:07.09 | AwesomeMachine | you have to post 5 times though before you can dl |
| 07:07.21 | shingouz | mrs shingouz might get a bit pissed though..... |
| 07:07.25 | AwesomeMachine | hey ninja |
| 07:07.34 | jagerman | So you made 5 nonsense posts, I assume |
| 07:07.53 | ninjalight | howdy AwesomeMachine |
| 07:07.55 | AwesomeMachine | no, I haven't made all 5 yet |
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| 07:08.08 | AwesomeMachine | just call me am |
| 07:08.17 | ninjalight | Ok will do am :) |
| 07:08.33 | shingouz | AwesomeMachine: theres tab completion you know |
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| 07:08.40 | ninjalight | hello ivan |
| 07:08.53 | ivan_algunaparte | hello |
| 07:08.54 | AwesomeMachine | how do you do that? |
| 07:09.01 | shingouz | do what? |
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| 07:09.10 | AwesomeMachine | tab completion |
| 07:09.11 | xk | awe<tab> |
| 07:09.18 | AwesomeMachine | k |
| 07:09.23 | ninjalight | hello peterrooney |
| 07:09.52 | xk | 3.52ghz hotplate |
| 07:10.01 | AwesomeMachine | rehab is for quitters |
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| 07:10.38 | AwesomeMachine | oops, I'm one |
| 07:10.53 | shingouz | hehe |
| 07:11.30 | AwesomeMachine | now I'm a linux junkie |
| 07:11.42 | shingouz | that's tough, man |
| 07:12.04 | reNegad3 | if installing a package I use dpkg -i 'packaname' right?? (no smart ass coments or !tell shit, just straight yes or no) |
| 07:12.14 | shingouz | reNegad3: yes |
| 07:12.21 | reNegad3 | ta |
| 07:12.38 | AwesomeMachine | or apt-get install 'packagename' |
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| 07:13.17 | ninjalight | I love linux but I don't know enough to consider myself a linux junkie persay...on my way though |
| 07:13.31 | AwesomeMachine | what time is it? |
| 07:13.42 | shingouz | ninjalight: as soon as you get detoxed off doze... |
| 07:13.47 | shingouz | AwesomeMachine: late |
| 07:13.50 | orchid | maybe I will sleep on it :) |
| 07:13.58 | xk | AwesomeMachine: hrm... 2 hours behind me... |
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| 07:14.15 | xk | then again, your date is busted :) |
| 07:14.33 | shingouz | AwesomeMachine: get ntpdate and keep the clock in sync |
| 07:14.39 | xk | or rdate |
| 07:15.23 | AwesomeMachine | my clock is messed up, I have ntp.nasa.gov in there, but it's 12 hours off |
| 07:15.36 | xk | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:15.37 | shingouz | demess it then |
| 07:15.37 | xk | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:15.39 | xk | run that. |
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| 07:16.21 | AwesomeMachine | i have to tell it something, does ntp come in gmt? |
| 07:16.51 | shingouz | i guess it does |
| 07:17.04 | shingouz | would be logical at least |
| 07:17.08 | jagerman | Is your system timezone messed up somehow? |
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| 07:17.20 | jagerman | Is /etc/localtime right? |
| 07:17.38 | AwesomeMachine | ok, hold on, I'm demessing the clock |
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| 07:18.19 | jagerman | Is there anything that runs in linux that can play a DVD-A disc? |
| 07:18.29 | shingouz | mplayer? |
| 07:18.33 | TheZanke | can someone look in #flood and tell me what is wrong |
| 07:18.41 | ninjalight | video lan client rules jagerman videolan.org |
| 07:18.55 | shingouz | TheZanke: paste away |
| 07:19.29 | ninjalight | im not sure if it plays DVD-A not familiar with that format but Ive ran into no problems with any DVD ive ever used in there |
| 07:19.50 | jagerman | A DVD-A has no video on it (high quality audio-only), and I have yet to find something that can play it |
| 07:20.20 | ninjalight | hmmm interesting |
| 07:20.21 | takatumi | !tell TheZanke -about mmap |
| 07:20.44 | AwesomeMachine | I think rdate needs to be installed on my machine |
| 07:20.50 | xk | what's required to get snmpd+mrtg working on a non-debian system? |
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| 07:21.12 | jagerman | From what little I've learned about it, it uses a much more complex version of CSS than the one found on video DVD's |
| 07:23.08 | TheZanke | ty takatumi |
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| 07:23.46 | xk | ahhh... there we go. snmpd+mrtg working |
| 07:24.42 | Meowfaceman | Okay. So after having rebooted my install of Sid, I seem to be unable to access any terminals in X, gnome-terminal failing with "There was an error creating the child process." Does anyone have any ideas as to where I could start? |
| 07:25.54 | valdyn | Meowfaceman: why do you run sid if you have to ask questions like this? |
| 07:26.25 | Meowfaceman | You people are amazing. |
| 07:27.34 | xk | heh |
| 07:28.01 | shingouz | would be nice to know how long he has been running linux in the first place |
| 07:28.14 | azreal | Meowfaceman: add yourself to groupt "tty" |
| 07:28.17 | shingouz | probably about fifteen minutes |
| 07:28.18 | drp | xmms irc script anyone have one |
| 07:28.22 | valdyn | hes gone |
| 07:28.23 | azreal | group |
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| 07:29.14 | shingouz | drp: is there such a beast in the first place. did you google for it? |
| 07:29.16 | azreal | doh, oh well |
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| 07:29.55 | drp | shingouz, yeah I think there is |
| 07:30.13 | valdyn | drp: do you use irssi? |
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| 07:30.35 | drp | valdyn, I'm using xchat at the moment |
| 07:30.47 | shingouz | drp: www.xchat.org |
| 07:31.01 | valdyn | drp: irssi-text includes 3 xmms related scripts |
| 07:31.08 | valdyn | drp: no idea about xchat- sorry |
| 07:31.19 | drp | valdyn, k I'll check it out |
| 07:32.51 | valdyn | drp: xchat debian packages dont seem to include any scripts, but I'm sure they exist.. |
| 07:32.58 | shingouz | valdyn: could you version me please? i want to see if xchat responds to a minor hack |
| 07:33.20 | reNegad3 | If ive got a source package I want to install and its a tarlball, what would I need to do to package it as a .dsc file? so I can use dpkg -x sourcepackage? |
| 07:33.24 | shingouz | xchat has a shitload of scripts, just that they are pretty hard to find |
| 07:33.47 | Bouncy | any one in here using web-cp ?, and can help me set it up |
| 07:33.56 | shingouz | reNegad3: are you *absolutely* sure there is no deb anywhere to be installed with apt-get? |
| 07:34.11 | reNegad3 | yes |
| 07:34.18 | reNegad3 | it a theme for KDE |
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| 07:34.33 | jagerman | Someone needs to hurry up and crack DVD-Audio encryption :( |
| 07:34.35 | valdyn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:35.06 | shingouz | valdyn: i guess that was not the correct one :) |
| 07:35.29 | reNegad3 | im familiar with compiling my source, but I prefer to keep the sys clean |
| 07:35.31 | valdyn | shingouz: i did /version shingouz |
| 07:35.44 | reNegad3 | not mine as in mine but someone elses ;) |
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| 07:36.04 | shingouz | valdyn: ctcp version.... |
| 07:36.27 | shingouz | valdyn: what you did was to get the ircd version off freenode |
| 07:36.39 | valdyn | shingouz: yea |
| 07:37.13 | valdyn | shingouz: no idea which command to type |
| 07:37.27 | shingouz | valdyn: /ctcp version shingouz |
| 07:37.29 | ninjalight | anyone else running Knoppix? |
| 07:37.30 | shingouz | that shoudl work |
| 07:37.39 | shingouz | ninjalight: #knoppix |
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| 07:37.56 | ninjalight | lol ooh thanks shingouz |
| 07:38.00 | valdyn | freenode] [ctcp(version)] SHINGOUZ |
| 07:38.00 | valdyn | 08:37 [freenode] -!- version: No such nick/channel |
| 07:38.10 | shingouz | hm |
| 07:38.19 | shingouz | i think i need to read up a bit here :) |
| 07:39.19 | shingouz | valdyn: /ctcp shingouz version |
| 07:39.53 | shingouz | azreal: what did you get as a response? |
| 07:39.59 | azreal | nothing |
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| 07:40.22 | GROZNIY | hi all, can anybody help me to configure alsa on my laptop? It use to work on kernel 2.6.8, but when i updated to kernel 2.6.10 it stopt working. |
| 07:40.22 | shingouz | wait aminute... |
| 07:40.34 | shingouz | GROZNIY: alsaconf |
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| 07:41.14 | jetscreamer | worng |
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| 07:41.42 | shingouz | azreal: once more please |
| 07:41.50 | GROZNIY | shingouz: i did it, but after reboot it gives me an error 'No state is present for card Modem' |
| 07:41.53 | azreal | ³þ³ þ shingouz!reply(VERSION) þ xchat 1.8.9 Linux 2.4.18 [i586/133MHz/SMP] |
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| 07:42.24 | shingouz | azreal: damn. back to the old config then, i cannot make the thing make rude remarks :( |
| 07:43.01 | valdyn | VERSION xchat 1.8.9 Linux 2.4.18 [i586/133MHz/SMP] |
| 07:43.38 | shingouz | valdyn: azreal: thanks, but the dirty 'lil hack doesnt seem to work |
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| 07:44.04 | jetscreamer | try modconf |
| 07:44.12 | ardy | is the STL implementation in GCC thread safe??? |
| 07:44.22 | shingouz | i set it to print out "stop versioning me you dumb fuck" but i guess xchat is too politically correct to say such things. pity |
| 07:44.25 | valdyn | GROZNIY: that in itself is no big deal, try as root "alsactl store" and "alsactl restore" |
| 07:44.26 | GROZNIY | can anybody help me with my problem ? |
| 07:45.12 | shingouz | GROZNIY: as jetscreamer said, try modconf |
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| 07:46.14 | ardy | is the STL implementation in GCC thread safe??? If no one knows... what would be the appropriate channel? |
| 07:46.49 | valdyn | ardy: check the reference manual? |
| 07:47.05 | ardy | valdyn: where is it located??? |
| 07:47.10 | bhaskie` | ardy: google, gcc manual, #gcc |
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| 07:47.25 | lkthomas | if my server is using ldap, does it require ldap support on postfix ? |
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| 07:48.30 | valdyn | ardy: apt-get cache search libstdc++ | grep doc. Pick the right one |
| 07:48.38 | valdyn | ardy: apt-cache search libstdc++ | grep doc. Pick the right one |
| 07:48.55 | jetscreamer | maybe /msg dpkg alsa-bork, but i dunno |
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| 07:49.06 | tub | when I installed xsidplay it installed a whole lot other packages and uninstalled kde, now when I try to re-install kde it says "Sorry, broken packages" |
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| 07:49.18 | ardy | valdyn, bhaskie: I take it gcc uses the sgi verion? does linux use a particular method for locking (ie monitors) or do I have to write and manage my own semephors? |
| 07:49.21 | jetscreamer | tub try apt-get install -f |
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| 07:49.31 | tub | jetscreamer: ok |
| 07:49.40 | jetscreamer | or -f install |
| 07:49.50 | jetscreamer | not sure if it matters |
| 07:49.56 | tub | jetscreamer: no any help |
| 07:50.21 | jetscreamer | try dselect. |
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| 07:50.38 | ardy | According to google... gcc uses sgi's stl but sgi's doc just say 'make sure to lock your containers'? |
| 07:50.53 | jetscreamer | !tell tub about fix-unmet |
| 07:51.12 | tub | and I have unstable, it complains about some unmet dependencies |
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| 07:52.11 | jetscreamer | dselect |
| 07:52.44 | bhaskie` | ardy: are you using pthreads? join #gcc and ask these q's there. you will get better answers there |
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| 07:53.15 | ardy | bhaskie: is it /join *gcc |
| 07:53.20 | ardy | bhaskie: is it /join #gcc |
| 07:53.27 | bhaskie` | yes |
| 07:54.15 | ardy | thanks |
| 07:54.39 | valdyn | ardy: not familiar w/ c++ stuff, linux thread is done w/ posix threads |
| 07:54.45 | valdyn | ardy: not familiar w/ c++ stuff, linux threading is done w/ posix threads |
| 07:55.10 | valdyn | ardy: #c++ might just be the channel for you |
| 07:55.13 | ardy | valdyn: oh... hmm no one seems to respond at #gcc |
| 07:55.22 | jetscreamer | just wait |
| 07:55.34 | valdyn | ardy: its offtopic for #gcc i suppose too |
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| 07:55.58 | shingouz | ardy: maybe something like #c or #c++ if they exist |
| 07:56.41 | ardy | huh... no one seems to respon in either... back to google |
| 07:57.01 | valdyn | ardy: do you use a particular toolkit ? qt? gtkmm? |
| 07:57.06 | bhaskie` | ardy: i believe google will help you better. you need to use pthread library with stl |
| 07:57.51 | shingouz | ardy: you also should just ask on the channel and idle there, eventually someone might just wake up enough to answer your question |
| 07:57.58 | Penix | !test |
| 07:57.58 | dpkg | No, penix, you're not online any more. |
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| 07:59.06 | ardy | bhaskie': yeah.. cool thanks... also any tips on where to find samples of custom allocator classes for gcc? |
| 07:59.44 | ardy | Thr problem is that evey compiler does stl kinda differently |
| 07:59.48 | ardy | *The |
| 08:00.05 | ardy | and often on the net people dont specify what compiler they use |
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| 08:01.29 | bhaskie` | ardy: most code using linux pthreads and stl use gcc to compile. at least i used to do that long time ago. so search for code on google |
| 08:02.47 | ardy | yeah.. I keep on getting garbage on STL for visual C++ and eveyone knows M$ doesn't follow the C++ standard |
| 08:03.53 | raghu | can any tell me weather any one able to browse mahiti.org |
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| 08:04.41 | WiFiTux | Hi, anyone knows in which kernel version is acpi_ibm included? |
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| 08:06.55 | shingouz | raghu: mahiti.org works fine for me |
| 08:07.30 | raghu | shingouz: thx ....my firewall rule was mesed up |
| 08:10.02 | shingouz | raghu: :) |
| 08:10.10 | shingouz | demessed it then i think |
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| 08:15.29 | takatumi | WiFiTux: if you meant ibm-acpi, it's available in 2.6.10. |
| 08:15.33 | Solet | woot i finally got x to load and run |
| 08:15.42 | Solet | i got a pos trident pci card |
| 08:15.45 | Solet | and it works now |
| 08:16.07 | shingouz | Solet: :) |
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| 08:16.19 | shingouz | i need to scoot in anycase, laters |
| 08:16.23 | jagerman | The POS cards always seem to be better supported in linux :-( |
| 08:16.33 | takatumi | WiFiTux: also check http://ibm-acpi.sourceforge.net/ |
| 08:16.36 | Solet | lol @ jag |
| 08:16.42 | Solet | wow this takes forever to load.... |
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| 08:18.07 | jagerman | Solet: I have a recent ATI card, which is particularly horribly supported |
| 08:18.38 | takatumi | jagerman: which ATI card? |
| 08:18.49 | Miks | Do hard drives need a fan now a days? |
| 08:19.44 | jagerman | takatumi: A 9500 Pro that thinks it's a 9700 Pro |
| 08:20.33 | eye69 | Miks: Depends if you have one or several. |
| 08:20.59 | Miks | I have an old p2 400mhz, w/ a 10gb hd. I was thinking about getting an ide controller, and adding the 120gb and thats it. |
| 08:21.03 | eye69 | Miks: If it's just a single or maybe two drives I wouldn't bother. I use fans for my 12 drive setup. |
| 08:21.16 | Miks | wow 12 |
| 08:21.16 | jagerman | Miks: Well, not really, but most desktop or server hard drives need at least a tiny bit of airflow |
| 08:21.30 | Solet | i got fans in my 4 drive case |
| 08:21.32 | takatumi | jagerman: tried the drivers from here? /msg dpkg ati |
| 08:21.44 | Miks | i guess i should add one. |
| 08:21.45 | Solet | ofcourse i'm also running an a64... so it heats up a bit |
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| 08:22.07 | takatumi | Solet: how hot does it get? |
| 08:22.14 | Solet | hey anyone know why the hell x is so laggish? |
| 08:22.18 | Solet | the cpu itself? |
| 08:22.25 | takatumi | yeah |
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| 08:22.42 | jagerman | takatumi: I've used ATI's binary drivers before, and despise them |
| 08:22.46 | Solet | after running S&M (bad ass stresstest) it got to like 50c i think |
| 08:22.48 | Solet | i cant remember |
| 08:23.21 | jagerman | What kind of shitty driver can only enable Xv support *or* opengl support, but not both? |
| 08:23.49 | Solet | in x i gotta busy light but no apparent activity in x, just a blue to white fade screen and a little icon with 3 'window's on it |
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| 08:24.17 | doojin | no |
| 08:24.24 | doojin | I didn't add korean while I installed debian |
| 08:24.31 | doojin | how can I add korean in language list of GDM? |
| 08:24.41 | doojin | Help |
| 08:25.15 | jagerman | takatumi: Since I would set them up to support Xv anyway (which the open source driver supports already), I can't really see the point of mucking around with ATI's wretched drivers |
| 08:26.08 | takatumi | jagerman: if you need 3D you might need those, my radeon340 doesn't work with ati's drivers, however I do get DRI on xorg |
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| 08:27.16 | jagerman | takatumi: I've learned to get by without 3D - the only thing I ever used the 3d for anyway was xscreensaver :) |
| 08:28.19 | takatumi | jagerman: my 4 year old bugs me for tuxracer and supertux :) |
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| 08:29.40 | Solet | !x |
| 08:29.40 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 08:29.58 | Solet | damn.. |
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| 08:30.20 | Solet | i was hoping it would have a url to a nice short tutorial to x or something |
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| 08:30.28 | jagerman | takatumi: Making it more difficult to play a mindless game can be a good thing ;) |
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| 08:32.28 | BlackJudas | Hmm, where can I get iso images for installing a base system on a non-networked laptop? |
| 08:32.42 | BlackJudas | I need to have the devel packages on there.. ie.. gcc/make etc. |
| 08:32.46 | eugenesan | hi all, is there any way to "log" all FS activity to file or Console? |
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| 08:33.01 | disasm | heya all, i'm trying to completely purge xwindows from a server. I thought apt-get --purge remove x-window-system would take it all out, but it's still hanging on to xlibs and a bunch of other packages |
| 08:34.01 | Solet | black: lemme look for the link... there is a torrent tracker for all the debian iso's |
| 08:34.02 | eugenesan | disam: you should cut it from the "root" purge libx* or something or use deborphan after purging x-windows-system |
| 08:34.07 | takatumi | BlackJudas: /msg dpkg d-i, get the first CD, maybe the second one as well. |
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| 08:34.58 | Solet | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/torrents/ |
| 08:35.03 | Bytewalker | does anyone know if i can mix pc133 ram with pc100 ram? |
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| 08:35.06 | chealer | eugenesan: purge xserver-xfree86. x-window-system is just a metapackage |
| 08:35.21 | BlackJudas | takatumi, great thanks! |
| 08:35.40 | sussudio | Bytewalker: google for it next time. yes, you can probably mix it, but it will all revert to PC100 speed. |
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| 08:35.44 | eugenesan | chealer: right, hats why i alway pure libs in those cases :-) |
| 08:36.00 | Bytewalker | ok i tried mixing like 4 of these rams togehter and my computer gets really messed up |
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| 08:36.12 | chealer | eugenesan: there are many libx... |
| 08:36.15 | Bytewalker | my stupid system doesnt test the memory when it starts up... |
| 08:36.34 | sussudio | so use memtest86 |
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| 08:36.51 | Solet | get ultimate boot disc |
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| 08:38.07 | Solet | how much ram and what cpu speed does x need to run well? |
| 08:38.17 | eugenesan | chealer: yeap, i use aptitude... |
| 08:38.58 | codebreaker | hello. can somebody confirm the following bug in tinyca? export LC_ALL=de_DE check with export then start tinyca. its still in english. |
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| 08:40.18 | takatumi | Solet: what are your ram and cpu specs? |
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| 08:40.42 | Solet | p1 200mhz 32mb ram |
| 08:40.52 | Solet | i think i can go to 64 mb if i need to... |
| 08:41.43 | Solet | but i need to check with some one who knows about SIMMs... before i go popping the other 2 cards in |
| 08:41.51 | chimaera | where can i find the device for my wlan-usb-stick? |
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| 08:42.02 | toresbe | Solet: SIMMs generally work, period |
| 08:42.19 | Solet | ok you know how you have to add memory in pairs? |
| 08:42.31 | toresbe | Solet: they're not the same? :) |
| 08:42.32 | Solet | does the pair have to be 2 of the same stick? or just 2 of the same size stick |
| 08:42.58 | Solet | (by size i mean same memory capacity) |
| 08:43.01 | toresbe | Solet: I think they have to be of the same refresh rate, and it goes to the size of the lowest in the pair |
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| 08:43.35 | toresbe | but chances are, if they are the same size, IME it works |
| 08:43.48 | Solet | ok |
| 08:44.14 | Solet | and would 200mhz 64mb ram run x at an exceptable speed? |
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| 08:45.03 | toresbe | Solet: sure, depending on the GFX card and what you'd be running |
| 08:45.22 | toresbe | as a remote X client it would work perfectly, really |
| 08:45.33 | Solet | well right now i have about 4 seconds lag just from the mouse movement |
| 08:45.38 | Solet | keyboard is less |
| 08:45.45 | Solet | er |
| 08:45.50 | Solet | keyboard is more* |
| 08:46.03 | toresbe | Solet: What are you running in X? GNOME?? |
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| 08:46.19 | toresbe | ...dare I say it, KDE? |
| 08:46.31 | Solet | i'm not running anything |
| 08:46.51 | Solet | i typed startx from the console and my busy light hasnt shut off since |
| 08:47.49 | toresbe | sheesh |
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| 08:47.55 | toresbe | something's wrong there :P |
| 08:48.12 | Solet | well damn to be too technical you may confuse me :/ |
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| 08:48.26 | Solet | "somethings wrong" sounds like dell sech support |
| 08:48.32 | Solet | tech support * |
| 08:48.35 | toresbe | Solet: "it ain't werk'n" :P |
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| 08:50.36 | Solet | how do i close X and drop back to console? |
| 08:51.08 | BlackJudas | alt-ctrl-bksp |
| 08:51.11 | toresbe | ctrl-alt-bksp |
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| 08:51.19 | BlackJudas | :) |
| 08:51.20 | toresbe | BlackJudas: Ctrl FIRST!!11 :P |
| 08:51.31 | Solet | seriously who says alt first |
| 08:51.32 | Solet | :P |
| 08:51.34 | BlackJudas | toresbe, NEIN!!!111 |
| 08:51.35 | oKtosiTe | Oh my god, I just tried to upload a firmware update to my router with mozilla... "Error, ADSL module not found." |
| 08:51.39 | BlackJudas | I do! |
| 08:51.53 | Solet | BlackJudas: wrong |
| 08:51.54 | BlackJudas | oKtosiTe, so why are you still connected to the net? |
| 08:51.57 | Solet | apple does |
| 08:52.02 | TheZanke | okay i want the user admin to be able to rwx all the files in /var/www/ and all the folders inside it...how do i make ti recursive when i chmod it? |
| 08:52.04 | Solet | cept i dont think they call it alt |
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| 08:52.11 | BlackJudas | Command!!! |
| 08:52.15 | toresbe | BlackJudas: he is very skilled with a paperclip |
| 08:52.21 | Solet | oh its ctrl thats different... |
| 08:52.26 | BlackJudas | Yeah, man... I need a speedy download of the sarge iso's... this is painful. |
| 08:52.27 | oKtosiTe | BlackJudas, I reset(ted) the router |
| 08:52.31 | Solet | alt-command-delete... wtf is that bullshit |
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| 08:52.53 | BlackJudas | ctrl-command-fuckitkey! |
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| 08:53.04 | marcel | Does anyone know if there is any progress in fixing teh Eterm bug #295330 ?? |
| 08:53.13 | BlackJudas | I still want a keyboard with a fuck-it key.... |
| 08:53.25 | Solet | ctrl alt bkspc isnt doing anything |
| 08:53.26 | Solet | wait |
| 08:53.33 | Solet | holly crap there it goes |
| 08:53.40 | BlackJudas | alt-ctrl-bksp |
| 08:53.42 | BlackJudas | :) |
| 08:53.44 | Solet | thank god |
| 08:53.56 | BlackJudas | You have been saaaaved... |
| 08:54.26 | BlackJudas | man... i'm so tiired... man.. i so want this wireless laptop setup... man... i gotta stop drivelling in this chan... i think i'm gonna go smoke. |
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| 08:54.39 | chealer | marcel: the BTS, most likely |
| 08:55.07 | Solet | ok i swear i installed tuxracer... but when i type it in the console it dont go... |
| 08:55.07 | Solet | wtf |
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| 08:55.22 | Bytewalker | solet is this on that 200mhz machine? |
| 08:55.23 | Bytewalker | hehe |
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| 08:55.29 | marcel | chealer: BTS? |
| 08:55.34 | chealer | !bts |
| 08:55.34 | dpkg | well, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
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| 08:55.50 | e2e | Hi, is there a problem with security.debian.org? I can't get Packages with apt-get update: Get:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/contrib Release [84B] Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages Connection failed |
| 08:55.59 | Solet | Bytewalker: yes it is |
| 08:56.10 | strk | how do I burn a cd in an IDE-CDRW with cdrecord ? it insists in having a scsi compatibility layer but kernel help says that's not needed anymore... any tips ? |
| 08:56.12 | Bytewalker | u got a good video card?:p |
| 08:56.27 | Solet | byte: it was good enough to launch X |
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| 08:56.36 | Solet | itd a triton something or other |
| 08:56.37 | vulture | strk: if you are using a kernel where that's no longer necessary just specify the disk drive as the device parameter.. |
| 08:56.38 | marcel | I have seen that page allready, and someone else has filed a bug against it on 14 feb, but there is still no reply from the maintainer |
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| 08:56.50 | Solet | trident* |
| 08:56.55 | vulture | strk: dev=/dev/hdc or whatever |
| 08:56.56 | Bytewalker | tuxracer needs a 3d accelerated video card.. doubt a 200 mhz computer came with one |
| 08:57.03 | Solet | trident 9660 |
| 08:57.03 | strk | vulture: cdrecord: Read-only file system. Cannot open '/dev/hdd'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 08:57.05 | e2e | strk: cdrecord -v -eject dev=ATA:x,x,x image.iso this works fine for me |
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| 08:57.14 | Solet | the trident didnt come with this machine |
| 08:57.19 | vulture | strk: which kernel are you running? |
| 08:57.33 | strk | e2e: what's x,x,x ? |
| 08:57.35 | strk | vulture: 2.6.6 |
| 08:57.44 | e2e | strk: You can get x,x,x with cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA |
| 08:57.47 | Solet | but even if it wont run it it shouldnt tell me "command not found" |
| 08:57.47 | vulture | strk: that doesn't sound right, Works For Me(tm) |
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| 08:58.11 | cahoot | strk: vultures method implies ATA by definition |
| 08:58.13 | markybob | anyone know how to have postfix forward copies of all messages with attachments to a specified address? cant seem to find an option for always_bcc to do this |
| 08:58.22 | strk | e2e, that still requires ide-scsi module |
| 08:58.39 | vulture | strk: cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hdc -data cd_image |
| 08:58.41 | vulture | *shrugs* |
| 08:58.45 | e2e | strk: If you use kernel 2.6.x you don't need ide-scsi module |
| 08:58.55 | vulture | strk: which distro? using the latest cdrecord, etc? |
| 08:58.58 | Bytewalker | solet if your running tuxracer as root, it probably doesnt have /usr/games/bin in the path |
| 08:59.12 | Bytewalker | make sure that is in the $PATH of the user ur running it as |
| 08:59.26 | Bytewalker | and i doubt its good enof to run tuxracer;( |
| 08:59.33 | strk | Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jvrg Schilling |
| 08:59.36 | strk | debian woody |
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| 09:00.23 | vulture | strk: how'd you manage to get a 2.6 kernel in woody? I expect you'll need a more recent version of cdrecord as well as the up to date kernel |
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| 09:00.52 | Solet | ***tuxracer error: Couldnn't initialize video: (no such file or directory) |
| 09:00.57 | Solet | how do i remedy this? |
| 09:01.08 | strk | Oops...I just saw I've bigger problems, ejecting /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd results on the same drive being opened :! |
| 09:01.22 | strk | [ CDRW never opens :( ] |
| 09:01.22 | e2e | strk: Read /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup |
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| 09:01.55 | vulture | strk: yeah, that'd be an issue.. |
| 09:01.58 | topa_ | sarge sound problem, sound seems to play for one user but not for a different user, and yes I've tried adduser <username> audio |
| 09:02.06 | topa_ | can someone help ? |
| 09:02.07 | vulture | if you had scsi stuff setup you probably haven't fully removed it or something |
| 09:03.18 | neeko | topa_: the program you're looking for is moduser. man moduser =) |
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| 09:04.31 | topa_ | thanks neeko |
| 09:04.37 | lanchow | is aterm the best way to have a wallpaper besides emacs-nox ? |
| 09:05.05 | strk | vulture, I really dunno where to look at... |
| 09:05.19 | strk | I know I was using ide-scsi before, but the module is not loaded *now* |
| 09:05.22 | topa_ | neeko cannot find mnoduser in apt repositories |
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| 09:05.34 | neeko | topa_: It's already installed ;) |
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| 09:05.44 | neeko | topa_: It's part of coreutils. |
| 09:05.52 | neeko | topa_: which is stock |
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| 09:06.05 | Solet | fuck it appears i am running gnome... |
| 09:06.33 | topa_ | ic :) |
| 09:06.34 | strk | it sounds as a kernel bug actually |
| 09:06.43 | chimaera | since using 2.6.10 and udev, i get disconnects of my wlan-usb-stick when plugging in another usb/ieee1394- device. i heva eto un- / replug the wlan-stick to get it working again. any ideas what may cause this disconnect and how to get rid of it? |
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| 09:07.39 | topa_ | neeko nope "locate" turned up zilch, it's not in root's path too, and copreutils is installed :S |
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| 09:08.28 | strk | /proc/ide/hd{c,d}/model are correct |
| 09:08.33 | topa_ | devian:~# mod |
| 09:08.33 | topa_ | mod modconf modinfo modinfo.modutils modprobe modprobe.Lmodutils modprobe.modutils |
| 09:08.44 | cahoot | topa_: 'groups <otheruser>' shows he's member of audio? |
| 09:09.06 | neeko | topa_: My apologies. usermod >.< |
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| 09:09.25 | topa_ | cahoot yes audio and video |
| 09:09.34 | topa_ | neeko :D |
| 09:09.41 | strk | vulture: ok... cdeject -d /dev/hdd works, w/out -d he thinks it's a multiCD device |
| 09:10.39 | TinoW | cdeject? |
| 09:11.03 | topa_ | cahoot neeko guess I need to relogin for it to work ? |
| 09:11.18 | neeko | topa_: reckon so. |
| 09:11.23 | strk | so I guess my only problem is a too-old cdrecord, what versions supports IDE ? |
| 09:11.25 | lanchow | anyone know a transparent term with refresh ? |
| 09:11.27 | cahoot | topa_: did you run 'groups' as otheruser? |
| 09:11.48 | strk | TinoW... it always opened hdc, with both cdeject /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd |
| 09:11.52 | TinoW | lanchow: eterm? |
| 09:12.01 | topa_ | yeah cahoot |
| 09:12.13 | TinoW | strk: I was just curious, I know/use only "eject" :) |
| 09:12.21 | lanchow | TinoW: maybe i gonna try, thank you |
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| 09:13.06 | strk | TinoW, indeed eject hdd; eject hdc works fine ;) |
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| 09:13.49 | TinoW | strk: I'm using it for my CF cards too :) |
| 09:14.02 | strk | and -t is also usefull |
| 09:14.12 | strk | what are CF cards ? |
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| 09:14.49 | TinoW | strk: yes, with real cdroms, it looks impressive as in hollywood movies ;) *tipelltitapp* eject ... *titppelltitapp* door closes again ;) |
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| 09:15.42 | raghu | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:15.53 | strk | nice sound ;) very realistic |
| 09:16.02 | strk | raghu, man 5 crontab |
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| 09:16.21 | raghu | strk: i have some thing setup shall i paste |
| 09:16.27 | cyberyo | io |
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| 09:16.35 | raghu | any one crontab specialist |
| 09:16.42 | strk | raghu, a single line: yes; multiple lines: not here |
| 09:16.49 | TinoW | raghu: anyone a meta question specialist? ;) |
| 09:17.04 | raghu | strk: single line |
| 09:17.15 | strk | go ahead (it took 3 so far ;) |
| 09:17.36 | raghu | strk: 45 1 * * * /home/plone2/zope/arc /home/plone2/zope/Products && mv /home/plone2/zope/*.tgz /root/bak-prod |
| 09:17.51 | raghu | strk: arc is a script |
| 09:17.55 | strk | raghu, put your commands in a wrapper script and invoke that |
| 09:18.11 | strk | I woudn't trust using && in crontab file |
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| 09:18.57 | strk | raghu: write /home/plne2/zope/arc..... *.tgz into a file, chmod +x it; then call it from your crontab line |
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| 09:19.17 | raghu | strk: ok |
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| 09:20.08 | strk | e2e, where can I get latest cdrecord ? woody doesn't seem to have a compatible one (for direct IDE use) |
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| 09:21.31 | strk | e2e, also, should ide-scsi still work on kernerl 2.6.6 w/ old cdrecord ? |
| 09:21.34 | TheZanke | how do i check which groups a user is in? |
| 09:22.01 | strk | id <user> |
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| 09:24.09 | rixth | Where can I find new panels for the Gnome Panel? |
| 09:24.33 | TheZanke | how do i remove X from my server? |
| 09:24.43 | e2e | strk: I'm not sure, but if you don't have to use woody, a stable version use testing, testing use cdrecord 2.01+01a01-2 |
| 09:24.45 | TheZanke | apt-remove? lol |
| 09:24.51 | rixth | apt-get --purge x-window-system |
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| 09:25.03 | rixth | e2e: strk is gone |
| 09:25.04 | nagytalop | all ya! :) |
| 09:25.15 | TheZanke | ty |
| 09:25.20 | e2e | rixth: Ok... Thank you... |
| 09:26.15 | e2e | rixth: What do you mean new panels? |
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| 09:26.59 | e2e | strk: I'm not sure, but if you don't have to use woody, a stable version use testing, testing use cdrecord 2.01+01a01-2 |
| 09:27.13 | strk | still no luck. cdrecord -scanbus reports: Cannot open SCSI driver |
| 09:27.13 | nagytalop | i did a dist-upgrade and after my emu10k (sb live 5.1) doesn't work. After i installed the ALSA but this sad : talpszerkezet:~# /etc/init.d/alsa start emu10k |
| 09:27.13 | nagytalop | Setting up ALSA card emu10k...done (not loaded). |
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| 09:27.26 | ravn | anyone: I am working on an application in Anjuta/Glade and find it strange that when I change in main.cc ant the builds all make won't rebuild my binary. How come? |
| 09:27.30 | strk | thanks e2e, I'll try testing |
| 09:27.41 | e2e | strk: Did you add -dev=ATA to the cdrecord -scansu |
| 09:27.47 | e2e | strk: Did you add -dev=ATA to the cdrecord -scanbus |
| 09:28.12 | strk | yes e2e, to 1.10 |
| 09:28.15 | TheZanke | apt-get --purge x-window-system isn't working |
| 09:28.28 | TheZanke | E: Invalid operation x-window-system |
| 09:28.37 | strk | the ide-scsi module is loaded |
| 09:28.44 | juhov | TheZanke: apt-get --purge remove xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:28.44 | e2e | TheZanke: dpkg -P xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:28.44 | TinoW | TheEmperor: you want to uninstall? Then use remove |
| 09:28.53 | strk | (to also try scsi emulation - which is also not working) |
| 09:29.00 | lanchow | hi, i have installed eterm, but the eterm command doesn't exist, what is the correct command pleas ? |
| 09:29.26 | rixth | TheZanke: try apt-get remove x-window-system |
| 09:29.33 | nagytalop | lspic :0000:00:0a.0 ffff: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0802 (rev ff). can anybody help? :) |
| 09:29.41 | nagytalop | pci |
| 09:29.46 | rixth | TheZanke: you'll have to shut X down first though |
| 09:29.51 | e2e | strk: cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus and tell us what it says |
| 09:30.00 | rixth | Are you booted into an interface? Gnome, KDE etc |
| 09:30.23 | TinoW | lanchow: try dpkg --contents /var/cache/apt/archives/eterm<tab> |
| 09:30.26 | rixth | Can someone recomend a good free 3D game for Linux? |
| 09:30.40 | e2e | rixth: It might not installed x-window-system... |
| 09:30.45 | Shay | g'morning (IST) |
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| 09:30.49 | juhov | rixth: scorched3d? :) |
| 09:30.57 | nagytalop | quake :))) |
| 09:31.05 | jagerman | Neverwinter Nights |
| 09:31.12 | juhov | neverwinter nights is free? |
| 09:31.25 | strk | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open 'ATA'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 09:31.25 | jagerman | Oh, I missed the free part |
| 09:31.26 | rixth | juhov: I'll take a look :) |
| 09:31.30 | strk | scsidev: 'ATA:' |
| 09:31.31 | TheZanke | rixth: x wont work and i can't install the nvidia drivers on this kernel so i am uninstalling x, the kernel is 2.2.20-compact |
| 09:31.31 | strk | devname: 'ATA' |
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| 09:31.54 | rixth | TheZanke: Okay, I think it's better to ask someone else, I'm in over my head now :) |
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| 09:32.37 | e2e | strk: from /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup: Usually you would not want to use ide-scsi with Kernel 2.6 for CD-writing, the new kernel provides a (from a user's point of view) superior access method that finally supports DMA access when writing Audio-CDs or using -raw. |
| 09:32.48 | TinoW | TheZanke: why not just install another kernel and try again? |
| 09:32.49 | lanchow | TinoW: ok thanks it's *E*term |
| 09:32.54 | strk | e2e I don't have that file |
| 09:33.09 | TheZanke | TinoW: only kernel that works with this old scsi |
| 09:33.14 | TheZanke | that i have found |
| 09:33.16 | TinoW | sir kernel sir yes sir! |
| 09:33.25 | strk | e2e, would dd if=<img> of=/dev/hdd work ? |
| 09:33.51 | TinoW | TheZanke: what old scsi is this? |
| 09:34.08 | e2e | strk: I'm sending that file |
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| 09:34.44 | Ronan151 | can someone explain to me how to edit PKG_CONFIG_PATH? |
| 09:34.46 | e2e | strk: I'm not sure, but this is not a "right" way of writing CD's |
| 09:35.08 | TheTom | can i install a program in my home ddir only, so that i don't need root privileges. i've tried with ptrefix and --binfdir boy to no avail |
| 09:35.16 | e2e | So, as i said before try using testing... |
| 09:35.32 | TheZanke | TinoW: http://support.mpccorp.com/apps/complist.asp?SerialNo=1628413-0001 |
| 09:35.33 | strk | I'm updating apt cache rigth now... |
| 09:36.56 | TheZanke | how do i check the owner and group of a file/folder? id? |
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| 09:37.16 | e2e | TheZanke: ls -l ? |
| 09:37.24 | Sirius_Black | hi guys - any good howto to setting up a network printer please? |
| 09:37.59 | Ronan151 | i just installed the libgphoto2 and when i try to install gphoto2 is says that i havnt met the req for libgphoto2>=2.1.2, which i just installed a newer version |
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| 09:38.21 | e2e | Sirius_Black: CUPS |
| 09:38.35 | rixth | juhov: how do I start scorched? |
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| 09:39.01 | rixth | trogger: woot, go NZ :D |
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| 09:39.12 | juhov | rixth: /usr/games/scorched3d or something probably, I haven't got it installed any more |
| 09:39.20 | TheZanke | ok for some reason the login to my proftpd stopped working, i was working fine but now i get |
| 09:39.21 | TheZanke | 530 Login incorrect. |
| 09:39.21 | TheZanke | Cannot login waiting to retry (30s). |
| 09:39.25 | rixth | Thanks |
| 09:39.28 | trogger | rixth: yeah baby :) |
| 09:39.58 | rixth | They need a Linux Users group in the Wairarapa, I don't want to travel to Wellington everyweek. |
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| 09:40.09 | rixth | I should found one. heh. |
| 09:40.12 | strk | e2e, I think I missed hdd=ide-scsi boot parameter |
| 09:40.13 | TheZanke | and i have another login to the same things just admin logs into /var/www/ and the other one logs into /var/www/testing/tyler, this one work but admin doesn't? |
| 09:40.25 | strk | I'll try another reboot then |
| 09:40.39 | trogger | anyone here been to caltech? |
| 09:40.42 | TinoW | reboot? |
| 09:40.46 | TinoW | ah |
| 09:40.49 | TheZanke | Phate:~# id talon |
| 09:40.49 | TheZanke | uid=1002(talon) gid=104(ftpuser) groups=104(ftpuser),102(html) |
| 09:40.49 | TheZanke | Phate:~# id admin |
| 09:40.50 | TheZanke | uid=1003(admin) gid=104(ftpuser) groups=104(ftpuser),102(html) |
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| 09:41.05 | TheZanke | damnit |
| 09:41.06 | olf | lo |
| 09:41.08 | TheZanke | only 4 lines |
| 09:41.13 | TheZanke | thats not a flood |
| 09:41.37 | TheZanke | anyways, did you all get that |
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| 09:42.39 | olf | i've got a pbm on kernel compilation using xconfig, some option can't be unselected, (pci dvb card i dont have) |
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| 09:43.51 | strk | e2e: success using ide-scsi (boot param was missing) |
| 09:43.58 | rixth | juhov: can you make this came fullscreen? |
| 09:44.13 | strk | it warns about the fact it's deprecated, so I'll try switching to newer cdrecord nonetheless... |
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| 09:46.16 | strk | urgg.. how do I mount it now ?! /dev/scd# ? |
| 09:46.27 | strk | it's 0,0,0 |
| 09:46.46 | strk | /dev/hdd doesn't seems good anymore (with ide-scsi on) |
| 09:46.57 | strk | actually with hdd=ide-scsi bootparam... |
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| 09:47.38 | olf | wich tk package must be install for installing kernel 2.4 ? |
| 09:48.02 | olf | when i do make xconfig, i get error on " |
| 09:48.02 | olf | wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk |
| 09:48.16 | olf | "wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk" |
| 09:48.26 | TheZanke | ok i fixed it, if i am just gonna use something as a ftp name what shell should i give it? |
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| 09:48.39 | TheZanke | should it be /bin/bash? |
| 09:49.05 | TheZanke | because that seems kinda exsessive for just a regular user |
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| 09:52.54 | lanchow | i was looking for the utility "convert" to convert a .png file to .xpm, anyone knows one ? |
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| 09:53.48 | gu | lanchow: apt-get install imagemagick |
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| 09:54.01 | gu | convert is in |
| 09:54.52 | strk | do you know when is sarge planned to come out ? |
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| 09:55.51 | fairway | hello, is there a way to lock a user in his home directory with proftpd? |
| 09:56.00 | jetscreamer | yes, christmas 2006 |
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| 09:56.24 | lanchow | thank you |
| 09:56.30 | strk | fairway: yes. doesn't its manual help with that ? Should be pretty smiple |
| 09:56.44 | mike | does anyone have a Creative NOMAD Jukebox NX Xtra? using the package gnomad2? |
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| 09:57.08 | fairway | thanks found it |
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| 09:58.36 | mike | do you need any other software to access a creative Zen's data files etc? |
| 09:58.45 | streuner | fairway: keep in mind ftp use non-encrypted passwords via i-net |
| 09:58.47 | mike | can i just mount it and off i go? |
| 09:58.53 | Vyrus001 | how do i install a perl mod on a debian system from perl source ? |
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| 09:59.16 | TinoW | Vyrus001: why from source? |
| 09:59.20 | strk | Vyrus... sounds hard |
| 09:59.29 | Vyrus001 | TinoW|| lol cus i couldent find a deb :P |
| 09:59.32 | strk | when you choose package management you're pretty stuck in it |
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| 10:00.08 | TinoW | strk: not really. Use apt-source and you are fine |
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| 10:00.53 | Vyrus001 | strk|| ive compiled plenty of things before that work fine with my packge installed system.. this is just a perl lib so it's a little diffrent |
| 10:00.55 | TinoW | Vyrus001: apt-get install perl perhaps? Usually you have that cra^h^h^h language already installed because most system scripts are using it |
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| 10:01.48 | strk | Vyrus, locate site_per |
| 10:01.54 | strk | then move the modules there ? |
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| 10:02.25 | pokgai | hi |
| 10:02.40 | pokgai | where can i download hddtemp? |
| 10:02.55 | marcel | pokgai, apt-get install hddtemp? |
| 10:03.05 | sussudio | marcel: yeah, that'll work with his redhat |
| 10:03.19 | marcel | sussudio, yum install hddtemp? |
| 10:03.29 | fairway | alright |
| 10:03.39 | sussudio | !doe marcel |
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| 10:05.27 | klaasvaak | hi, for some reason my /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kernlog are both over 1.2GB. is it safe to delete them? are there any special commands for these logs? |
| 10:05.40 | klaasvaak | i need the space |
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| 10:05.54 | TinoW | klaasvaak: rather then delete logfiles, use echo -n >logfile to truncate them |
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| 10:06.20 | jetscreamer | what does that do, empty the files? |
| 10:06.22 | TinoW | klaasvaak: and try logrotate |
| 10:06.32 | strk | I use :>logfile, it makes me in a better mood w/ my computer ;) |
| 10:06.34 | TinoW | jetscreamer: yes |
| 10:06.38 | jetscreamer | cool |
| 10:06.43 | klaasvaak | what does logrotate do? |
| 10:06.53 | TinoW | klaasvaak: it rotates the logs ;) |
| 10:07.03 | jetscreamer | weird eh |
| 10:07.29 | jetscreamer | copies em and adds .0 then it .gz's em and increments (iirc) |
| 10:07.30 | TinoW | klaasvaak: it can make a new file for every hour/day/week/month/year/megabyte what you want |
| 10:07.54 | klaasvaak | oh, ok.. i didn't know what the rotating part ment :) |
| 10:08.05 | TinoW | klaasvaak: you can configure it with all your log spilling services |
| 10:08.11 | klaasvaak | k, thanks.. i'll try this now |
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| 10:09.35 | streuner | klaasvaak: it makes the logs 'handy', it wouldn't be nice if you have logs bigger then 1 Gig |
| 10:10.01 | streuner | heh |
| 10:10.11 | TinoW | that was quite unhandy ;) |
| 10:10.17 | streuner | so logrotate didn't work? |
| 10:10.42 | TinoW | streuner: I did not have configured it with that service that time ;) |
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| 10:12.28 | photoguy41 | hello all, i was wondering if someone could help a newbie out? |
| 10:12.48 | streuner | !ask |
| 10:12.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 10:13.13 | photoguy41 | i just installed gphoto2 and now i cant seem to find it anywhere to actully run it |
| 10:13.36 | klaasvaak | how, does this logrotate work? i did a logrotate /var/log/syslog and got a segmentation fault |
| 10:13.55 | streuner | If it isn't in a menu, just run 'dpkg -L package' |
| 10:14.38 | klaasvaak | the manual is really long, can someone give me a quick working example, because there are none in the manual |
| 10:15.21 | juhov | klaasvaak: it says in the beginning of the manual that the parameter is supposed to be a CONFIG file, not a log file, so you might try logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 10:15.27 | streuner | debian's logrotate packages comes with everything you need |
| 10:15.39 | photoguy41 | once you go through make install, doesnt that finish the job? |
| 10:15.49 | photoguy41 | dpkg says its not intsalled |
| 10:15.49 | dpkg | photoguy41: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 10:16.17 | photoguy41 | i was installign from source, then everything went fine |
| 10:16.33 | photoguy41 | i did 'make' and the 'make install' |
| 10:16.40 | photoguy41 | but now it says its not installed |
| 10:16.57 | streuner | photoguy41: why not just use a debian package? |
| 10:17.23 | photoguy41 | i couldnt find one for gphoto |
| 10:17.36 | streuner | !info gphoto2 |
| 10:17.39 | dpkg | gphoto2: (The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.1.5-1 (sid), Packaged size: 126 kB, Installed size: 692 kB |
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| 10:17.48 | juhov | photoguy41: what version of debian do you use? |
| 10:17.56 | pokgai | anyone know what this mean when i ran hddtemp? |
| 10:17.56 | pokgai | [root@cp root]# hddtemp /dev/hdd1 |
| 10:17.57 | photoguy41 | ubuntu |
| 10:17.57 | pokgai | ERROR: /dev/hdd1: can't determine bus type (or this bus type is unknown) |
| 10:18.04 | streuner | read /topic |
| 10:18.09 | juhov | that's not debian then :) |
| 10:18.10 | photoguy41 | hmm, i guess there was one |
| 10:18.13 | photoguy41 | n/. |
| 10:18.15 | pokgai | what?? |
| 10:18.21 | pokgai | why doesn't my hddtemp work? |
| 10:18.28 | streuner | it does |
| 10:18.30 | photoguy41 | i must have been typing in gphoto |
| 10:18.36 | photoguy41 | thats guys |
| 10:18.38 | pokgai | why am i getting that errror? |
| 10:19.24 | juhov | pokgai: try /dev/hdd instead of hdd1, the former is the disk, the latter is just one partition |
| 10:19.26 | streuner | !info hddtemp |
| 10:19.29 | dpkg | hddtemp: (Utility to monitor the temperature of your hard drive), section utils, is extra. Version: 0.3-beta12-12 (sid), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 180 kB |
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| 10:19.55 | streuner | pokgai: its beta and a very young project - so it seems |
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| 10:20.28 | streuner | pokgai: older HD's haven't that feature, IIRC |
| 10:20.38 | pokgai | i see |
| 10:20.45 | pokgai | i got a new HD 400GIG |
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| 10:21.00 | streuner | pokgai: try gkrellm |
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| 10:21.10 | juhov | did you try with just /dev/hdd already? |
| 10:21.14 | pokgai | is this normal.. |
| 10:21.15 | lanchow | xsetroot allows only black&white colors as bitmap files, how to set a background ? |
| 10:21.22 | pokgai | is this normal.?? /dev/hdd: ST3400832A: 35°C or °F |
| 10:21.37 | pokgai | 35 C? |
| 10:21.39 | streuner | yep |
| 10:21.41 | juhov | ok so you did, and it works :) |
| 10:21.45 | streuner | i have 35 C. too |
| 10:21.46 | pokgai | yes juhov thx!! |
| 10:21.50 | pokgai | is this accurate? |
| 10:21.52 | juhov | I have 43C :) |
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| 10:22.18 | streuner | 10.000 RPM? |
| 10:22.30 | juhov | nope, but this is a laptop |
| 10:22.44 | juhov | so I guess it's probably okay |
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| 10:24.02 | photoguy41 | how do i set GTK_CONFIG? |
| 10:24.42 | streuner | #ubuntu |
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| 10:26.10 | klaasvaak | juhov: apparantly /etc/syslog.conf is a config file for syslogd, using it for logrotate gives a whole bunch of parsing errors. and there is no config file for syslog in /etc/logrotate.d/ |
| 10:27.00 | klaasvaak | juhov: would you happen to know the location of the correct conf file? |
| 10:27.20 | juhov | klaasvaak: /etc/logrotate.conf, at least on my system |
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| 10:28.14 | klaasvaak | juhov: damn, stupid of me.. it is working now, thanks! |
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| 10:30.52 | karsten | What multimedia players handle "Microsoft ASF" format? |
| 10:30.59 | karsten | I've got xine and mplayer, both gripe. |
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| 10:31.25 | streuner | karsten: read the FAQ by xine website |
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| 10:31.31 | Halahad | do ya have w32codec? |
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| 10:31.51 | streuner | karsten: you need the essential package, but marillat have the most codecs |
| 10:32.26 | t0ffel | what (usb) device should I gphoto to use? |
| 10:32.31 | t0ffel | +set |
| 10:32.43 | Kog | about to install Deb on /dev/hdc... /dev/hda1 is NTFS (win2k) and /dev/hda2 is FAT32... I've never run a dual boot - is there anything I should know? |
| 10:32.48 | karsten | streuner: I think I've got the marillat sources... |
| 10:32.50 | Kog | or any sort of lilo.conf setting I neet? |
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| 10:33.13 | streuner | karsten: essential package is at the mplayer website |
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| 10:36.40 | karsten | streuner: OK. Looks like I'd remove marillet. It kept moving anyway.... |
| 10:37.22 | pokgai | hi |
| 10:38.01 | pokgai | is this normal i'm working the HD massively... and i ran hddtemp and it giving nme ths../dev/hdo: WDC WD2500JB-00EVA0: 48°C or °F .. is 48 C normal? if i'm working the HD like crazy?? |
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| 10:38.22 | UriKiller | hi |
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| 10:38.34 | Kog | was that really necessary... |
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| 10:38.44 | UriKiller | what does flood mean? |
| 10:38.51 | streuner | pokgai: no - make the HD cooler or it say 'Hasta la vista' pretty soon |
| 10:38.54 | Kog | it means don't do it again... |
| 10:39.19 | streuner | UriKiller: you wanna fool us? |
| 10:39.21 | UriKiller | why did they say not to paste in the channel |
| 10:39.27 | UriKiller | i am new in mIRC |
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| 10:39.45 | Kog | UriKiller, would you walk into a room of people and yell "hello" at them 4 times? |
| 10:39.52 | Kog | UriKiller, I hope not |
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| 10:40.02 | UriKiller | oh.. that was just...hm... ok im an idiot |
| 10:40.09 | streuner | because if everybody paste here in channel it would be really nasty with more than 700 users? |
| 10:40.20 | UriKiller | what do u mean pate? |
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| 10:40.24 | UriKiller | like copy paste? |
| 10:40.29 | jagerman | yes |
| 10:40.31 | streuner | that too |
| 10:40.32 | UriKiller | oh. |
| 10:40.36 | UriKiller | so what is #flood |
| 10:40.50 | lanchow | with what do i put a background in xfree ? |
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| 10:41.09 | jagerman | It is sarcasm for "don't flood" |
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| 10:41.51 | UriKiller | how can i copy stuff from the text in the channel? |
| 10:42.10 | UriKiller | i selecct it and when i release the mouse button is gets unselected |
| 10:42.14 | kruzi | heyas whats the ls -?? to list by date? |
| 10:42.17 | jagerman | pokgai: 48°C isn't too bad |
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| 10:42.25 | zinx | UriKiller: middle-click pastes. don't paste in here, though. |
| 10:42.27 | pokgai | thx jagerman.. |
| 10:42.32 | UriKiller | not paste |
| 10:42.33 | pokgai | jagerman now its going back to 44C |
| 10:42.34 | UriKiller | i wan't copy |
| 10:42.39 | UriKiller | from the text in the channel |
| 10:42.42 | pokgai | 48C is not too BAD right?? |
| 10:42.46 | zinx | UriKiller: yes, you already copied it |
| 10:42.47 | pokgai | cuz its doing massive copying... |
| 10:42.53 | Kog | pokgai,for a CPU or a disk? |
| 10:42.57 | pokgai | DISK |
| 10:43.00 | UriKiller | what's massvie copying |
| 10:43.00 | zinx | UriKiller: selecting copies it to the selection buffer, middle click pastes the selection buffer. |
| 10:43.03 | Kog | whoa, no need to shout |
| 10:43.03 | UriKiller | tion has joined #debian |
| 10:43.03 | UriKiller | * ARSEN has joined #debian |
| 10:43.04 | kruzi | anyone? |
| 10:43.05 | kruzi | heyas whats the ls -?? to list by date? |
| 10:43.11 | pokgai | like copying like CRAZY!!! |
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| 10:43.19 | UriKiller | oh |
| 10:43.21 | UriKiller | lol |
| 10:43.23 | Kog | kruzi, can't you do --help? or man it? |
| 10:43.25 | pokgai | like working on the HD big time.. |
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| 10:43.31 | UriKiller | i am bad reader in english |
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| 10:43.47 | pokgai | hey. is there a way to mount the stuff manually |
| 10:43.50 | pokgai | i mean my HD |
| 10:43.54 | pokgai | without having to put it in fstab |
| 10:43.59 | UriKiller | how to send a message to a user? |
| 10:44.17 | pokgai | how does it know what ext2 to mount?? |
| 10:44.23 | juhov | pokgai: mkdir /whatever; mount /dev/hdd /whatever |
| 10:44.49 | jagerman | pokgai: Yes, with the mount command; mount tries to auto-detect the type of filesystem, or you can tell it was to use with the -t option |
| 10:44.57 | pokgai | i see |
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| 10:45.01 | pokgai | so the mount will auto detect the filesystem?? |
| 10:45.02 | jagerman | s/was/what/ |
| 10:45.03 | juhov | UriKiller: go read some IRC basics: www.irchelp.org |
| 10:45.08 | pokgai | thx.. |
| 10:45.11 | jagerman | pokgai: In most cases, yes |
| 10:45.18 | pokgai | because in fstab i see like ext3 and ext2 |
| 10:45.25 | pokgai | what about the 1 2? at the end.. |
| 10:45.31 | pokgai | does mount auto do that also? |
| 10:45.32 | UriKiller | too tired fir that |
| 10:45.33 | jagerman | man fstab |
| 10:45.37 | UriKiller | how to hack a mIRC server? |
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| 10:46.11 | zinx | UriKiller: wrong channel |
| 10:46.17 | zinx | UriKiller: wrong network, actually :/ |
| 10:46.26 | Kog | with leet hax of course |
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| 10:47.17 | jagerman | pokgai: Those two numbers don't really have anything to do with mount - see man fstab |
| 10:47.18 | Araldit | Anyone knows a good filemanager like midnight commander for X-windows. That can manage to extract archives? |
| 10:47.35 | streuner | Araldit: gentoo |
| 10:47.47 | zinx | streuner++ |
| 10:47.58 | streuner | Araldit: you have to set it up right, of course. |
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| 10:48.28 | jetscreamer | mc functions well, and w/mouse too, in xterm |
| 10:48.30 | Araldit | streuner: thx |
| 10:48.32 | jetscreamer | no gpm needed |
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| 10:48.39 | ARSEN | d |
| 10:48.41 | streuner | !info gentoo |
| 10:48.44 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (sid), Packaged size: 741 kB, Installed size: 2356 kB |
| 10:48.52 | ARSEN | heloo |
| 10:49.01 | ARSEN | from ARMENIA |
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| 10:49.07 | jetscreamer | !info xfe |
| 10:49.12 | dpkg | xfe: (lightweight file manager for X11), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.66-6 (sid), Packaged size: 531 kB, Installed size: 1876 kB |
| 10:49.16 | Kog | !info mono |
| 10:49.21 | dpkg | mono: (Mono .NET development environment), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-2 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 8 kB |
| 10:49.24 | ARSEN | HAYASTANIC MARD KA |
| 10:49.28 | Kog | oh sweet, 1.0.5 |
| 10:49.35 | jetscreamer | arsen are you lame? |
| 10:49.40 | zinx | Deploy 1.1.4 |
| 10:49.41 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 10:49.42 | ARSEN | WOT |
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| 10:49.44 | jetscreamer | nmsorry |
| 10:49.47 | Kog | jethro: what's walking have to do with it? |
| 10:49.54 | ARSEN | I LIVE ARMENIA |
| 10:50.01 | Kog | zinx: yeah... I gotta get debian working before I put Mono up on it |
| 10:50.01 | jetscreamer | ARSEN, caps lock plz |
| 10:50.07 | ARSEN | aha ok |
| 10:50.12 | ARSEN | :) |
| 10:50.14 | jetscreamer | thankee |
| 10:50.18 | ARSEN | ok |
| 10:50.22 | jetscreamer | !thank ARSEN |
| 10:50.22 | dpkg | bitte, jetscreamer |
| 10:50.22 | ARSEN | welkom |
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| 10:50.31 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 10:50.33 | ARSEN | you welcam |
| 10:50.35 | zinx | Kog: oh, that was a general "i know it won't happen, and i know why it shouldn't" pseudo-demand to the maintainers ;) |
| 10:50.43 | sussudio | !seen test |
| 10:50.43 | dpkg | test <~testa@client11.itam1.hawkcommunications.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 88d 3h 20m 37s ago, saying: 'test'. |
| 10:50.44 | simonrvn | welcome, FYI |
| 10:50.48 | Kog | you're on the wrong net then ;) |
| 10:51.10 | ARSEN | i am sorry i dont spick englisz i am armenia boy |
| 10:51.11 | Kog | so who wants to take a crack at my partitioning/dual boot/mounting question |
| 10:51.27 | jetscreamer | s'okie |
| 10:51.29 | simonrvn | ARSEN: it's ok, we'll help you |
| 10:51.30 | Kog | ARSEN, do you shout at people in armenian? |
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| 10:51.38 | simonrvn | ARSEN: if you want it |
| 10:51.43 | Kog | here I was thinking that most slavs spoke calmly |
| 10:51.47 | ARSEN | 1 moment |
| 10:51.48 | ARSEN | ok |
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| 10:52.37 | ARSEN | i livve in ARMENIA |
| 10:52.49 | simonrvn | we know :) |
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| 10:53.03 | ARSEN | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:53.17 | streuner | we know that too :-) |
| 10:53.46 | ARSEN | i dont speak english sorry |
| 10:54.09 | Kog | ARSEN, only armenian? |
| 10:54.13 | jetscreamer | ARSEN, you need a little bit |
| 10:54.31 | jetscreamer | unless there's some armenians somewhere |
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| 10:54.40 | sanxiyn | Too bad. |
| 10:54.46 | paulswm | Morning - hey streuner, you said 'nite to me 10 hours ago, you need to get a life, man, jetscreamer too :P |
| 10:54.47 | ARSEN | i speak lenguij armenia the russian . poland |
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| 10:55.02 | simonrvn | polish and russian? |
| 10:55.05 | Kog | ti gavareesh po-rusky? |
| 10:55.07 | ARSEN | yes |
| 10:55.11 | streuner | paulswm: hehe |
| 10:55.12 | simonrvn | (and armenian of course ;) |
| 10:55.13 | Kog | praveelna? |
| 10:55.16 | drasko | Could not access ALSA device "default", check its permissions... Where to do this |
| 10:55.16 | ARSEN | da ja znaju |
| 10:55.22 | Kog | ah, xorosho |
| 10:55.24 | sussudio | in soviet russia, people annoy you |
| 10:55.38 | Kog | ARSEN, ya gavaryu ne-mnoga |
| 10:55.38 | ARSEN | kog a ti rasianin ? |
| 10:55.41 | drasko | privet |
| 10:55.43 | simonrvn | !polish |
| 10:55.44 | dpkg | methinks polish is spoken in #debian.pl (not here). Or something used to make things shiny, or a really good sausage. polska -> #debian.pl |
| 10:55.47 | zinx | is there a #debian-ru? |
| 10:55.47 | Kog | ARSEN, shto eto? |
| 10:55.54 | ARSEN | sto |
| 10:55.55 | simonrvn | !russian |
| 10:55.55 | dpkg | somebody said russian was Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 10:56.02 | sussudio | !bugger off |
| 10:56.05 | Kog | ya ne lublu translit :( |
| 10:56.06 | zinx | guess not.. but there's something just as good :/ |
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| 10:56.28 | ARSEN | 4iwo ti nie lubis |
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| 10:56.31 | simonrvn | Kog: invite him/her to #debian.pl |
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| 10:56.46 | Kog | ARSEN, ti udoo b #debian.pl |
| 10:56.53 | zinx | or #debian-russian :/ |
| 10:57.04 | ARSEN | ja ziwo w polsie no ja ARMIANIN |
| 10:57.05 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 10:57.06 | Kog | ARSEN, ele #debian-russian |
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| 10:57.12 | drasko | Could not access ALSA device "default", check its permissions... Where to do this? |
| 10:57.13 | Kog | ya znau |
| 10:57.18 | simonrvn | !armenian |
| 10:57.19 | ARSEN | aha |
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| 10:57.21 | ARSEN | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.21 | Kog | tak tak tak |
| 10:57.23 | Kog | heh |
| 10:57.26 | sanxiyn | Õ€Õ¡ÕµÕ¥Ö€Õ§Õ¶ |
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| 10:57.44 | simonrvn | make a new #debian-* channel i guess |
| 10:57.45 | Kog | xoteet /join #debian-russian? |
| 10:57.50 | zinx | Ñ„áƒgштfввqнаж |
| 10:58.02 | Kog | erm... xotyesh |
| 10:58.18 | Kog | simonrvn, I need to set up my keyboard for cyrillic again |
| 10:58.30 | Kog | and I'm not sure Hydra does UTF-8 :( |
| 10:58.34 | ARSEN | i am from ARMENIA .... i live in poland |
| 10:58.37 | simonrvn | irssi does |
| 10:58.53 | Kog | ARSEN, /join #debian.pl eele #debian-russian |
| 10:58.59 | Kog | ARSEN, tak xorosho. |
| 10:58.59 | zinx | ARSEN: #debian.pl or #debian-russian are where you want to be :) |
| 10:59.00 | ARSEN | ktoto minia panimaet |
| 10:59.27 | Kog | ti menya panemaesh? |
| 10:59.29 | *** part/#debian klaasvaak (~linus@ipd50adb64.speed.planet.nl) |
| 10:59.34 | ARSEN | nie ponial sto takoje debian |
| 10:59.35 | simonrvn | /join #debian.pl,#debian-russian |
| 10:59.43 | ARSEN | niet drug niepanimaju |
| 10:59.44 | sanxiyn | This is cool: |
| 10:59.48 | sanxiyn | http://hy.wikipedia.org/ |
| 10:59.51 | Kog | ARSEN, :( |
| 10:59.55 | ARSEN | nu sto |
| 10:59.57 | ARSEN | :) |
| 11:00.00 | Kog | heh |
| 11:00.09 | ARSEN | sorry |
| 11:00.16 | drasko | Could not access ALSA device "default", check its permissions... Where to do this |
| 11:00.30 | t0ffel | any ideas on how to get usb to work? I'm using 2.6.8-1-386, and modprobe returns "FATAL: Module usb_ohci not found", on usb-ehci and usb-uhci as well.. |
| 11:00.32 | simonrvn | drasko: /etc/asound.conf |
| 11:00.40 | simonrvn | drasko: probably the file perm in /dev/snd |
| 11:00.44 | simonrvn | perms* |
| 11:01.00 | ARSEN | aciom ani gawariat kog |
| 11:01.04 | ARSEN | ? |
| 11:01.51 | Kog | ne znau, shto ti /join #debian.pl ? |
| 11:02.09 | ARSEN | kog ti panimaes sto ja skazal sto ja panimaju jazik russki 'armianski?i polski |
| 11:02.15 | t0ffel | dmesg says: "usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 6" or 2-1, dpending on which usb port I use |
| 11:02.22 | simonrvn | drasko: should be 775,root:audio /dev/snd/, and 660,root:audio /dev/snd/* |
| 11:02.31 | Kog | ARSEN, ne panimaju armianski eele polski |
| 11:02.35 | sussudio | ARSEN: go. away. |
| 11:02.41 | Kog | ya gavaryu po-angleeski ee po-espanskie |
| 11:02.43 | ARSEN | jest tu jakisz polak ? |
| 11:02.47 | Kog | nyet |
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| 11:02.52 | t0ffel | #debian.pl maybe? |
| 11:02.54 | Kog | no, ti /join #debian.pl? |
| 11:02.57 | ARSEN | haj ka ysteh ? |
| 11:03.07 | Kog | ne panimayesh |
| 11:03.08 | ARSEN | aha da |
| 11:03.21 | Kog | zinx: I'm trying to get him to join them |
| 11:03.32 | sussudio | ARSEN: Udaja sie daleko |
| 11:03.33 | Kog | zinx: apparently he doesn't understand russian so well - also he's using polish translit |
| 11:03.36 | zinx | tell 'em this is an english-only channel, then :) |
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| 11:03.52 | ARSEN | sussudio pasol ti na huj |
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| 11:03.55 | ARSEN | :) |
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| 11:04.05 | eye69 | I need help from somebody that knows about wireless networks. I need to know what the best settings are to get the best range/penetration for a b/g network. For instance, is long or short preamble better? |
| 11:04.12 | Kog | ARSEN, onee gavaryat anglesky skazat. ne polski. |
| 11:04.19 | Kog | ne armenski, ne rusky |
| 11:04.26 | t0ffel | any ideas on how to get usb to work? I'm using 2.6.8-1-386, and modprobe returns "FATAL: Module usb_ohci not found", on usb-ehci and usb-uhci as well.. dmesg says: "usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 6" or 2-1, dpending on which usb port I use |
| 11:04.30 | Shay | niet niet |
| 11:04.36 | Kog | anglisky. bce. |
| 11:04.37 | jetscreamer | what, eye69 ? |
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| 11:04.46 | ARSEN | nu tagda good bayy |
| 11:04.49 | sussudio | en nu optiefstralen kutmongolen |
| 11:04.55 | zinx | ARSEN: #debian.pl :) |
| 11:05.03 | ARSEN | bayy |
| 11:05.07 | sanxiyn | Hm, this is interesting. |
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| 11:05.10 | simonrvn | please, go to #debian.pl or -rssuian |
| 11:05.13 | Kog | Shay, sorry, you're right. I should have said "zdes" heh |
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| 11:05.16 | cahoot | t0ffel: look to me usb is working just fine |
| 11:05.25 | simonrvn | russ* |
| 11:05.26 | rixth | Where can I get applets for the Gnome Panel? |
| 11:05.27 | eye69 | Ooops. Sorry for the repeat. |
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| 11:05.34 | ARSEN | blin ja nie russ] |
| 11:05.36 | Kog | I'm trying to use translit in polish phonetics... bleh |
| 11:05.45 | troubl1 | hi folks |
| 11:05.49 | simonrvn | rixth: where you got gnome itself |
| 11:05.53 | Kog | ARSEN, zdes gavaryat angleeski. bce. |
| 11:05.55 | troubl1 | need some help with a debian install |
| 11:05.56 | simonrvn | ah |
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| 11:06.01 | Kog | ARSEN, b #debian.pl eto polski |
| 11:06.01 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search gnome |grep applet |
| 11:06.03 | ARSEN | no ja eto wizu |
| 11:06.04 | rixth | I just apt-get'd it |
| 11:06.06 | simonrvn | @lart root ircers |
| 11:06.18 | Kog | ARSEN, b #debian-russian gavaryat po-rusky |
| 11:06.24 | t0ffel | cahoot: gphoto won't take /dev/sda1 or any other /dev/sdxy I throw at it. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 11:06.32 | ARSEN | no ja budu dagadatsa |
| 11:06.52 | ARSEN | hoces budu gawarit po-polsku |
| 11:06.53 | Kog | ARSEN, ... |
| 11:07.02 | Kog | nyet zdes |
| 11:07.03 | ARSEN | sto |
| 11:07.11 | ARSEN | a ti |
| 11:07.12 | ARSEN | :) |
| 11:07.27 | Kog | nyet, ya ne gawaru |
| 11:07.28 | ARSEN | SKYPE |
| 11:07.31 | cahoot | t0ffel: what if you run gphoto2 --auto-detect? |
| 11:07.34 | Kog | nyet |
| 11:07.39 | Kog | jesus kid... just go to the channel |
| 11:07.54 | ARSEN | a u tebia yest SKYPE |
| 11:07.57 | Kog | please... can we just shunt the kid |
| 11:08.03 | Kog | ARSEN, u menya nyet |
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| 11:08.06 | sanxiyn | Too bad. |
| 11:08.11 | Kog | ARSEN, no, b #debian.pl... |
| 11:08.14 | ARSEN | SKYPE ? |
| 11:08.18 | rixth | When I double click an MP3 I get 'There was an error launching the application' how do I find out more details? |
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| 11:08.25 | Kog | v #debian.pl est |
| 11:08.31 | Kog | s/est/yest |
| 11:08.53 | jetscreamer | isn't mp3 proprietary? |
| 11:08.58 | jetscreamer | or am i insane |
| 11:09.12 | rixth | I think your insane, hah |
| 11:09.16 | ARSEN | BAY BAY BAY |
| 11:09.23 | paulswm | Are those mutually exclusive? |
| 11:09.29 | jetscreamer | no |
| 11:09.32 | rixth | WMA is proprietary |
| 11:09.40 | sanxiyn | I thought "sto" is "one hundred"... |
| 11:09.44 | Kog | ARSEN, paka... |
| 11:09.50 | ARSEN | GAWARI STO JA SUTIL |
| 11:09.51 | markuman | i've problems to compile wine on mit 64bit kernel. |
| 11:09.52 | markuman | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot creat e executables |
| 11:09.54 | ARSEN | NO PAKA |
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| 11:10.01 | Kog | sanxiyn, he's using polish translit |
| 11:10.02 | ARSEN | BUD ZDAROW |
| 11:10.07 | markuman | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.10 | jetscreamer | caps arsen |
| 11:10.17 | ARSEN | ax |
| 11:10.27 | ARSEN | sorry |
| 11:10.35 | zinx | markuman: apt-get install build-essential |
| 11:10.40 | paulswm | First he was mistaken, then he was annoying, now he's a wanker |
| 11:10.46 | Kog | let me get xchat... |
| 11:10.51 | markuman | zinx, thx, i will try it |
| 11:10.51 | Kog | I'll spell it out for him in Russian |
| 11:10.52 | zinx | markuman: consider finding debian packages for the program you're compiling instead, too |
| 11:11.02 | ARSEN | kog how old are you |
| 11:11.03 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:11.07 | zinx | markuman: apt-get.org, backports.org, and i forget the other one |
| 11:11.19 | t0ffel | ok cahoot. gphoto2 detected my camera. But gphoto doesn't. I'd like to be able to preview images before I transfer or delete them.. |
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| 11:11.35 | drac__ | t0ffel: gtkam |
| 11:11.40 | sanxiyn | Kog: Ah, your problem is that you can't write Cyrillic in your current IRC client? |
| 11:11.47 | rixth | I get the error 'There was an error launching the application' how do I find out more details? |
| 11:11.49 | Kog | sanxiyn, hydra doesn't allow utf-8 |
| 11:11.52 | Kog | I don't think |
| 11:11.55 | sanxiyn | Too bad. |
| 11:12.01 | Kog | yes |
| 11:12.01 | ARSEN | yes |
| 11:12.06 | Kog | HydraIRC .03 |
| 11:12.09 | Kog | erm... 0.3 |
| 11:12.27 | jetscreamer | hydra.... he refused to port it to nix |
| 11:12.35 | Kog | it's not so great |
| 11:12.41 | Kog | but GTK was having some buffer issues |
| 11:12.44 | ARSEN | kog do you like women |
| 11:12.49 | jetscreamer | oh god |
| 11:12.51 | sussudio | !ops please remove ARSEN |
| 11:12.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please remove ARSEN |
| 11:12.53 | jetscreamer | it's a troll |
| 11:12.53 | Kog | ARSEN, callete su boca. es todo. |
| 11:13.03 | jetscreamer | spanish |
| 11:13.14 | Kog | well if one language doesn't work, another might |
| 11:13.26 | sanxiyn | "HydraIRC is NOT a script, plugin or any other kind of add-on for mIRC. In fact it's got nothing to do with mIRC at all" -- hydrairc.com |
| 11:13.29 | sanxiyn | That's sad... |
| 11:13.30 | ARSEN | i dont understand |
| 11:13.34 | ARSEN | :) |
| 11:13.41 | Kog | eto po-espansky |
| 11:13.45 | jetscreamer | it's windows only |
| 11:13.45 | sanxiyn | So, for many people, IRC == mIRC. :( |
| 11:13.49 | jetscreamer | ya |
| 11:13.55 | ARSEN | english |
| 11:13.57 | sanxiyn | What an unfortunate situation. |
| 11:14.03 | zinx | sanxiyn: if they didn't put that, people would probably be emailing them every day bitching because they can't get it to work with mIRC :/ |
| 11:14.10 | sanxiyn | I thought there was some petition for asking UTF-8 support for mIRC? |
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| 11:14.28 | zinx | i think the win32 world hates utf-8 |
| 11:14.36 | zinx | they're pro-UCS-2 |
| 11:14.40 | sanxiyn | Ah, yes, it's this: |
| 11:14.40 | sanxiyn | http://www.petitiononline.com/utf8/petition.html |
| 11:14.41 | jetscreamer | i never liked mirc, used it for a few days or a week |
| 11:14.44 | zinx | which of course doesn't work with IRC :P |
| 11:14.49 | Kog | zinx, MySQL hates utf-8 |
| 11:14.59 | ARSEN | what is the weather now in espan ??? kog |
| 11:15.06 | Kog | although... IRC was originally designated ASCII specific |
| 11:15.20 | Kog | if you read what Oikarrinen wrote about {} |
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| 11:15.46 | ARSEN | sun |
| 11:15.55 | ARSEN | ? |
| 11:15.56 | ARSEN | :( |
| 11:15.56 | rixth | I get the error 'There was an error launching the application' how do I find out more details? |
| 11:16.09 | rixth | !ops please kick ARSEN |
| 11:16.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please kick ARSEN |
| 11:16.15 | sanxiyn | rixth: from where did you get that error? |
| 11:16.20 | Kog | zinx: http://home.unilang.org/main/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3997 |
| 11:16.24 | rixth | Trying to launch an MP3 |
| 11:16.29 | Kog | it's sad to see that Hydra doesn't know how to use unicode :( |
| 11:16.31 | zinx | Kog: i'm all too familiar with IRC and its history |
| 11:16.34 | luulis | rixth: you could try running it from terminal emulator |
| 11:16.40 | Kog | I don't even know why we use ASCII anymore in a 32bit world |
| 11:16.40 | sanxiyn | Kog: Are you unilanger? Nice to meet you! |
| 11:16.41 | ARSEN | rixth you bed wery beed |
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| 11:16.52 | Kog | sanxiyn, no, I'm estado unidense heh |
| 11:17.07 | sanxiyn | I regularly visit irc.unilang.org. Cool place. |
| 11:17.07 | markuman | zinx, doesnt work. same mistake |
| 11:17.19 | rixth | I tried to open my 300mb sys log with Gedit =/ |
| 11:17.27 | rixth | Gah. It's braought my system to a stand still |
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| 11:17.43 | zinx | markuman: what are you trying to compile? |
| 11:17.49 | ARSEN | kog gawari risth sto on pidarast ok pazalusta |
| 11:18.01 | paulswm | ARSEN: /leave |
| 11:18.09 | ARSEN | rixth |
| 11:18.14 | t0ffel | drac: gtkam says the io-library returns "bad parameters" |
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| 11:19.03 | Kog | pojalosta, ostavte ya odn |
| 11:19.03 | rixth | bash: /mnt/media/Music/bb.mp3: cannot execute binary file |
| 11:19.11 | Kog | blah... I HATE translit |
| 11:19.14 | rixth | (even after I have chmod +x'd) |
| 11:19.20 | t0ffel | "could not find USB device (vendor 0x4a9, product 0x3073). Make sure this device is connected to the computer. |
| 11:19.22 | zinx | rixth: you can't execute binary files |
| 11:19.24 | ARSEN | paulswm i dont understand :) |
| 11:19.25 | t0ffel | " |
| 11:19.26 | sanxiyn | I hate transliteration when I need to do it for Korean. |
| 11:19.31 | simonrvn | rixth: duh, you don't exec .mp3s |
| 11:19.37 | Kog | I can only imagine korean translit |
| 11:19.38 | drac | t0ffel: i don't know what that means :/ |
| 11:19.54 | rixth | I didn't think so. But when I got cannot execute binary file, I tried chmod +x |
| 11:19.56 | Kog | been in here forever and still... no closer to solving my own problem heh |
| 11:20.09 | sanxiyn | rixth: Try to open it in a file manager. |
| 11:20.17 | rixth | I get |
| 11:20.25 | rixth | 'The was an error launching the application' |
| 11:20.34 | rixth | (I'm using Gnome & trying to open XMMS) |
| 11:20.38 | ARSEN | + |
| 11:20.48 | markuman | zinx, wine |
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| 11:21.01 | simonrvn | rixth: oh it's binary file, but it's not an ELF binary ;) |
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| 11:21.09 | markuman | wine-20050211 |
| 11:21.15 | drac | t0ffel: run 'update-usbids', and then plug it out, and then back. |
| 11:21.17 | Kog | anyone have a good tut or info about dual booting 2k and Deb? |
| 11:21.23 | Kog | using GRUB? |
| 11:21.28 | luulis | rixth: you could try running it from a terminal emulator |
| 11:21.44 | paulswm | Kog: It's pretty straightforward, what do you need to know? |
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| 11:21.55 | bhaskar | Kog: read grub info pages. it has all examples |
| 11:22.09 | rixth | Whats the difference from a teminal and a terminal emulator? |
| 11:22.09 | deucehaus | i have a radeon 9800... i've been using mplayer with the -vo x11 option, but i'd like to free up my cpu a bit. is there an easy way to get support for xv mode? i don't care about 3d |
| 11:22.10 | Kog | really... ok |
| 11:22.11 | drac | t0ffel: and did you try autodetection in gtkam? my camera got recognized something that it's now, and works. |
| 11:22.12 | ARSEN | 2pac |
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| 11:22.29 | ARSEN | xzbt |
| 11:22.31 | cahoot | Kog: /usr/share/doc/grub/examples |
| 11:22.33 | Kog | paulswm, I also want to know how to mount HDA2 (FAT32) as VFAT in Deb (HDC) |
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| 11:22.39 | Kog | I'm not on deb... can't read it |
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| 11:22.43 | drac | s/now/not/ |
| 11:22.43 | paulswm | Kog: As long as 2k is installed first, it's easy. If 2k is installed second, you'll have to reinstall grub and update it |
| 11:22.47 | ARSEN | wery wery bed |
| 11:22.49 | Kog | it's installed first |
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| 11:23.35 | paulswm | Kog: mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /your.mount.point.here |
| 11:23.59 | Kog | ok, that's what I'm looking for |
| 11:24.10 | Kog | paulswm, last time I dual booted (my first time) was XP and SuSE7.3 |
| 11:24.16 | t0ffel | drac: I did `gphoto2 --auto-detect`, as well as trying the refresh function in gtkam |
| 11:24.16 | Kog | and man... I killed it |
| 11:24.20 | ARSEN | ok, that's what I'm looking for |
| 11:25.08 | paulswm | Kog: The grib manual will show you how to do the 2k entry but I think it should have done it for you when you installed grub, andyway, it's pretty simple |
| 11:25.10 | paulswm | grub |
| 11:25.13 | ARSEN | paulswm |
| 11:25.13 | ARSEN | : /leave |
| 11:25.23 | ARSEN | :) |
| 11:25.33 | Kog | paulswm, so I just install Debian on HDC normally and then GRUB should take care of the rest? |
| 11:25.35 | paulswm | !ops please remove ARSEN |
| 11:25.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please remove ARSEN |
| 11:25.40 | ARSEN | i am op |
| 11:25.44 | Kog | hahaha |
| 11:25.45 | rixth | !ops please ban ARSEN |
| 11:25.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please ban ARSEN |
| 11:25.51 | Kog | ARSEN seems to be a MegaHAL... |
| 11:25.55 | ARSEN | bed |
| 11:26.05 | ARSEN | its no goud |
| 11:26.06 | paulswm | Kog: Yes, if you are installing sarge |
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| 11:26.26 | rixth | !ops please hit ARSEN with a big, frozen tuna fish =D |
| 11:26.27 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please hit ARSEN with a big, frozen tuna fish =D |
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| 11:26.42 | Enflam3D_89 | Is Debian Stable good for hosting a gaming server on? |
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| 11:26.57 | ARSEN | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please remove DPKG |
| 11:26.57 | jetscreamer | sure |
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| 11:27.18 | jhiver | hi everybody |
| 11:27.26 | drasko | simonrvn, /etc/asound.conf - no such file here.. /dev/snd right now : 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 220 2005-02-19 11:04 snd |
| 11:27.26 | drasko | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:27.27 | Kog | paulswm, I think I have woody here |
| 11:27.29 | Enflam3D_89 | jetscreamer: was that directed at me? |
| 11:27.31 | Kog | paulswm, from jan1 |
| 11:27.38 | jak | hello guys... weve just downloaded the netinst-data and bootet from usb stick, buit we dont have the option to choose whether we want to install directly from the inet or from an iso... should we be asked what to do? even when we give him "expert" as boot label, he does not ask us... |
| 11:27.38 | jhiver | can somebody help me fix my apt which seems to be in a mess? |
| 11:27.38 | ARSEN | !ops please remove paulswm |
| 11:27.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please remove paulswm |
| 11:27.42 | jetscreamer | Enflam3D_89, yeah |
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| 11:27.59 | Alver | 'ello. I'm trying to setup my printer (cups) and it seems to be installed, but it won't print. The error log says I might not have "ESP ghostscript" installed... could anyone tell me what package that is? I can't seem to pinpoint it. |
| 11:28.00 | Enflam3D_89 | jetscreamer: Okay, thanks. |
| 11:28.06 | simonrvn | drasko: what about the device files |
| 11:28.22 | rixth | I don't like to be mean, but someone get that prick out of here. It' not asking or answering anything, just pissing us off. |
| 11:28.40 | ARSEN | !ops please hit rixth with a big, frozen tuna fish =D |
| 11:28.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please hit rixth with a big, frozen tuna fish =D |
| 11:28.48 | drasko | simonrvn, you mean /dev directory? |
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| 11:29.09 | simonrvn | no, the alsa sound device files... |
| 11:29.11 | paulswm | Kog: netinstall sarge, woody is way too old: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 11:29.15 | Kog_ | ARSEN, ПожалуйÑта разрешение вы ничего но надоедающ. Пойдите к #debian-russian |
| 11:29.24 | drasko | simonrvn, where to check that? |
| 11:29.34 | rixth | I think sarge is ready to be stable |
| 11:29.38 | Kog | paulswm, the problem is that I'm installing basically net-less |
| 11:29.40 | simonrvn | /dev/snd/* |
| 11:29.43 | rixth | The only program I have had problems with is Gaim |
| 11:30.02 | Kog_ | ARSEN, Поймите Ð¼ÐµÐ½Ñ Ð¼Ð°Ð»Ñ‹Ñˆ?? |
| 11:30.04 | paulswm | Kog: You don't have an internet connection on that box? |
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| 11:30.11 | ARSEN | Kog_, ПожалуйÑта разрешение вы ничего но надоедающ. Пойдите к #debian-russian |
| 11:30.14 | Kog | paulswm, it's like 1k/sec |
| 11:30.20 | paulswm | AArrrgh |
| 11:30.25 | rixth | =| |
| 11:30.38 | sussudio | lilo: could you forcibly remove ARSEN from this channel? |
| 11:30.45 | Kog | alright... I tried to tell him to leave specifically in Russian |
| 11:30.49 | drasko | simonrvn, all have this permissions crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116 |
| 11:30.53 | paulswm | Kog: Then it won't help to install woody and upgrade to sarge, that will also take forever |
| 11:30.54 | Kog | shinnagata na nai... |
| 11:31.01 | Kog | paulswm, yeah... I know |
| 11:31.04 | ARSEN | Kog_, Поймите Ð¼ÐµÐ½Ñ Ð¼Ð°Ð»Ñ‹Ñˆ?? |
| 11:31.06 | Kog | paulswm, one sec, lemme look at the disk |
| 11:31.28 | Kog_ | ARSEN, Ð’Ñ‹ дейÑтвуете как ребенок. |
| 11:31.28 | paulswm | I guess all the ops are asleep :( |
| 11:31.39 | Kog | lilo is busy, not asleep |
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| 11:31.42 | Kog | was talking in #freenode |
| 11:31.59 | Alver | Oh, found it. |
| 11:32.05 | Kog | paulswm, it's 3.0r4 |
| 11:32.06 | ARSEN | lilo: could you forcibly remove sussidio from this channel? |
| 11:32.09 | Kog | which I believe is woody, yes? |
| 11:32.13 | simonrvn | drasko: ok. you might want to change the /dev/snd dir itself to what i told you before (775, root:audio), then make sure you're in audio group (if you're not, once you add yourself, logout completely, then log in again) |
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| 11:32.21 | Kog | yeah, it is |
| 11:32.24 | ARSEN | Kog_, Ð’Ñ‹ дейÑтвуете как ребенок. |
| 11:32.57 | ARSEN | :) |
| 11:32.58 | Vanya | Kog_ What are you writing ? :) |
| 11:33.04 | Kog | Vanya, Russian |
| 11:33.05 | ARSEN | :) |
| 11:33.12 | Vanya | thanks |
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| 11:33.15 | ARSEN | kog bliat |
| 11:33.22 | ARSEN | ja nie russia |
| 11:33.29 | ARSEN | ti pituh |
| 11:33.33 | drasko | simonrvn, where to add - what file? How to change? chow? What to write... I'm not so good with this yet... |
| 11:33.34 | Kog | Vanya, ARSEN is some armenian kid and I'm trying to convince him to leave |
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| 11:33.48 | Kog | paulswm, website says woody is only like 1 month out of date |
| 11:33.51 | simonrvn | drasko: /msg dpkg audio |
| 11:33.57 | rixth | I'm a kid >_< |
| 11:34.04 | ARSEN | kog yes yes |
| 11:34.13 | Vanya | Kog i'm Turkish :) |
| 11:34.27 | Kog | Vanya, your nick doesn't look very turkish ;) |
| 11:34.29 | ARSEN | vot ??? |
| 11:34.37 | ARSEN | turkish bed |
| 11:34.41 | igod | Hi all |
| 11:34.49 | Kog | I swear that ARSEN is a markov chain... |
| 11:34.57 | ARSEN | sto ? |
| 11:35.06 | lilo | arsen: bot |
| 11:35.19 | Kog | artificial intelligence is a bit ambitious heh |
| 11:35.19 | lilo | nah, he's not a markov chain ;) |
| 11:35.31 | Kog | lilo, but do you see how he's constructing new sentences? it |
| 11:35.37 | Kog | it's almost similar |
| 11:35.37 | lilo | they usually aren't picky about who they talk to |
| 11:36.03 | igod | Anyone could help me in a little debian configuration? |
| 11:36.26 | Kog | paulswm, really I'm on a college network internet connection and sometimes it's pretty dodgy... so I might just do a net install |
| 11:36.34 | Kog | paulswm, but I never count on the network working heh |
| 11:36.39 | agney | igod, do not ask to help. make your question, if anyone can help you, he will do |
| 11:36.41 | rixth | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.46 | ARSEN | turkish bed ..turkish kiled 1500000 armenian childrens 1915 |
| 11:36.48 | igod | ok |
| 11:36.56 | ARSEN | genocide |
| 11:36.58 | Kog | rixth, for the record I wasn't trying to insult anyone that's young in here |
| 11:37.10 | jetscreamer | lies |
| 11:37.11 | Kog | rixth, in Russian age has a different conotation as I understand it |
| 11:37.12 | rixth | Kog: Yes yes, I know :) |
| 11:37.15 | lilo | ARSON: off-topic |
| 11:37.25 | neko` | ARSEN: who cares |
| 11:37.29 | Kog | hahaha... turkish beds killed 1500000 armenians in 1915... totally a hal bot |
| 11:37.46 | jhiver | ooh big hairy troll |
| 11:37.46 | neko` | seriously, if you can't change it... |
| 11:37.53 | ARSEN | kog you mada faker |
| 11:38.06 | Kog | ARSEN, well there was this one girl and she had 3 kids... so I guess so |
| 11:38.12 | Bukowski | ARSEN turkish bed ..turkish kiled 1500000 armenian childrens 1915 is it True ? |
| 11:38.13 | Kog | ARSEN, now bear in mind, none of them were MY kids though |
| 11:38.19 | lilo | back in a bit, urgent need to reboot |
| 11:38.24 | Kog | seeya lilo |
| 11:39.02 | ARSEN | kog ti pizda jebanaja |
| 11:39.37 | ARSEN | kog ti turek da blidin |
| 11:39.46 | ARSEN | ja tak i znal |
| 11:40.04 | jazzmans | Bukowski, short version, yes. |
| 11:40.15 | Bukowski | :) |
| 11:40.27 | Kog | jazzanova, good thing I use a sleeping bag |
| 11:40.31 | Kog | I never trusted beds. |
| 11:40.55 | igod | Anyone known how can I execute root X commands at bash shell of a single user ? E.g: I login with a simple user, I open a terminal and do su -, but when I try to execute kvim, or other X command I have an error |
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| 11:41.15 | clusty | hey |
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| 11:41.23 | clusty | i have a small problem with KDE. |
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| 11:41.29 | Bukowski | we kill and you said yes ? it's ajoke . Armenian works whith USA , USA kill What Now and bbefore ? |
| 11:41.32 | gu | igod: xhost +local: when you're user |
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| 11:41.50 | gu | igod: root is not allowed to access X by default |
| 11:41.59 | jazzmans | http://www.armenian-genocide.org/map-full.html |
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| 11:42.24 | clusty | whenever i try to open some kde app i get an error window saing "Could not start process Unable to create IO slave" |
| 11:42.42 | clusty | "Unknown protocol:file" |
| 11:42.54 | clusty | what should I do to fix it? |
| 11:42.57 | PerfDave | clusty: Which version of Debian are you using? |
| 11:43.00 | igod | but how can I change that ? |
| 11:43.09 | clusty | PerfDave: testing |
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| 11:43.41 | chino | where is the inittab file ? |
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| 11:43.54 | rwd | chino: /etc |
| 11:43.57 | Penix | chino: /etc/ |
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| 11:43.59 | Kog | so I'm about to install 3.0r4... since it's out of date I need to update it immediately after? |
| 11:44.00 | chino | that what i thought |
| 11:44.02 | PerfDave | clusty: Have you checked the BTS? |
| 11:44.07 | igod | I try do with my user $ xhost +localhost, and then with root shell # kvim and I have this error: kvim: cannot connect to X server |
| 11:44.10 | PerfDave | Kog: Out of date in what way? |
| 11:44.14 | clusty | PerfDave: what is BTS? |
| 11:44.17 | chino | whats the default run level ? and whats the run level for X11 ? |
| 11:44.19 | PerfDave | clusty: /msg dpkg bts |
| 11:44.24 | Kog | PerfDave, dunno... paulswm was telling me to use sarge |
| 11:44.32 | rixth | Could soemone be kind enough to check if my SSH server is working? (I want to get a test from across the internet) |
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| 11:44.40 | PerfDave | Kog: If you're going to use Sarge, use the Sarge installer. |
| 11:44.41 | Kog | PerfDave, does 3.0r4 use 2.6x kernel? NPTL? |
| 11:44.48 | Kog | sarge installer eh... |
| 11:45.05 | PerfDave | Kog: 3.0r4 is Woody, the stable release. It's a few years old, but gets security patches. Sarge is more up to date but doesn't get security patches yet. |
| 11:45.18 | clusty | PerfDave: nope. I will check it. thanx |
| 11:45.18 | Kog | PerfDave, yeah |
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| 11:45.34 | chino | can someone tell me the run level for x11 ? |
| 11:45.37 | PerfDave | Kog: if you want to install Sarge, /msg dpkg d-i |
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| 11:45.50 | Kog | PerfDave, well... I was thinking my internet connectoin is really slow... and I have 3.0r4 discs sitting next to me |
| 11:45.57 | Kog | PerfDave, and that I should use the discs to install and then update |
| 11:46.02 | Kog | rather than a net install |
| 11:46.13 | Kog | is that a bad idea? |
| 11:46.22 | hobx | Anyone know why make-kpkg just won't build the 2.6.10 kernel for me? |
| 11:46.32 | Illuminist | wow, big channel :) |
| 11:46.40 | hobx | It keeps saying there is no rule for "conf.vars" |
| 11:47.03 | Kog | blah.. d-1 responds "I don't know, is it smaller than a breadbox?" |
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| 11:47.15 | PerfDave | Kog: You won't get exactly the same system from installing Woody and dist-upgrading as you will from installing Sarge directly. |
| 11:47.15 | peterS | hobx: check http://bugs.debian.org/kernel-package |
| 11:47.21 | PerfDave | Kog: d-i not d-1 |
| 11:47.23 | Kog | PerfDave, hrm |
| 11:47.23 | PerfDave | !d-i Kog |
| 11:47.24 | dpkg | Kog, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 11:47.33 | jetscreamer | only thing imo is d-i configures alsa well, i found it to be a pita to move to alsa. |
| 11:47.48 | PerfDave | Kog: And since you'll have to update all your packages to get to Sarge anyway, you might as well just install Sarge to start with |
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| 11:48.02 | jetscreamer | yep |
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| 11:48.16 | Kog | PerfDave, looks like I'm in for a long process... 3k/sec! |
| 11:48.16 | Kog | heh |
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| 11:48.40 | lkthomas | anyone running ldap over proftpd ? |
| 11:49.38 | PerfDave | Does anybody know a CD burning app for Linux which will let me select several CDs worth of files to burn, and split the files over the CDs sensibly? |
| 11:49.52 | PerfDave | Dunno if k3b will do that, I don't have a Linux installation handy to try it. Yet. |
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| 11:50.43 | Illuminist | Hi, I'm installing debian for the first time but I can't seem to upgrade the kernel, I've installed Sarge and told it to use 2.6.8 but when I use kernelversion or "uname -r" it reports back as 2.2.20-idepci |
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| 11:51.06 | tombs | bom dia ae |
| 11:51.07 | helloyo | hi, i'm trying to setup my first FTP server, could somebody give me some guidance? |
| 11:51.24 | tombs | sorry! good morning! |
| 11:51.29 | jazzmans | !somebody |
| 11:51.29 | dpkg | somebody said somebody was a person , who has a body |
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| 11:52.50 | PerfDave | Illuminist: How are you trying to install Sarge? What are you installing it from? |
| 11:52.56 | PerfDave | Illuminist: Have you read the Installation Manual? |
| 11:53.21 | Illuminist | PerfDave: I've dled the first Sarge iso from the Debian page |
| 11:53.29 | helloyo | ok then... i am trying to share a file over FTP, and can find very little info on the internet, so i must be looking in the wrong place, is there a good first time ftp tutorial around? |
| 11:53.41 | PerfDave | Illuminist: Which ISO did you download? |
| 11:53.45 | Kog | helloyo, why use FTP when SFTP exists? |
| 11:53.58 | PerfDave | Kog: Or HTTP, or scp, or DAV... |
| 11:54.13 | Kog | yeah, but SFTP is orders of magnitude better than FTP |
| 11:54.16 | Kog | AND it only needs one port |
| 11:54.17 | Illuminist | and yes, I've read several manuals and I have no idea why there's a 2.2.20-idepci got installed |
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| 11:54.49 | PerfDave | Illuminist: Which ISO did you download? Which manuals have you read? |
| 11:54.50 | Kog | PerfDave, the installer net-inst cd is gonna take me 30 minutes to grab |
| 11:54.51 | Illuminist | there was clearly an option to select the kernel version and I selected 2.6.8 |
| 11:54.52 | helloyo | Kog, whats sftp? |
| 11:55.00 | Kog | PerfDave, it makes me wonder how long it's gonna take to install sarge :( |
| 11:55.01 | rixth | I have some scary ports open, anyone care to join me in #flood? |
| 11:55.05 | Kog | helloyo, secure FTP |
| 11:55.13 | Kog | rixth, FTP is notorious for needing open ports |
| 11:55.21 | Illuminist | I've read one in a magazine and the one on http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html |
| 11:55.29 | paulswm | Kog: Sorry, was afk, I see PerfDave picked up where we left off anyway |
| 11:55.45 | Kog | paulswm, it's all good... thanks for the help |
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| 11:55.48 | PerfDave | Kog: Just install a minimal system, so you can boot, run screen and irssi to get back on IRC, then apt-get install X and that stuff. Don't select any packages to install as part of the installation. |
| 11:55.51 | rixth | Things like netbios-ssn and microsoft-ds |
| 11:56.00 | helloyo | Kog, my goal is to have an ip address or something of the sort typed in on another computer anywhere in the world in say firefox, and be able to download from it |
| 11:56.05 | drasko | where is the list of what users are in what groups.. How that can be checked and edited from the root |
| 11:56.06 | Kog | PerfDave, I'm just getting net install, gonna do minimal and get the partitioning stuff down |
| 11:56.16 | Kog | PerfDave, along with getting a 2.6x kernel and hopefully NPTL |
| 11:56.53 | PerfDave | Kog: You can install with a 2.6 kernel, you don't need to grab one after the fact. |
| 11:57.05 | Illuminist | and the iso i downloaded was from http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html |
| 11:57.05 | Kog | erm... I hope I didn't imply that |
| 11:57.05 | drasko | one more thing ... I cant mount cdrw with audio disc in it... With mp3 disc it mounts fine... |
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| 11:57.12 | Kog | or say that either |
| 11:57.16 | Fokker | Hi, is it recommendable to install debian on a laptop? |
| 11:57.17 | Illuminist | errr |
| 11:57.20 | Illuminist | sorry from http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/i386/sarge-i386-1.iso |
| 11:57.25 | cyberyo | Fokker: of course |
| 11:57.28 | paulswm | Kog: Before I got high speed, I used to do long installs over dial-up (overnight). Mostly, it's unattended anyway. Hopefully, your connection isn't charged by connect time. |
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| 11:57.34 | eka | hi all |
| 11:57.43 | Kog | PerfDave, I'm on a 2xT1 shared w/ 1000 other students |
| 11:57.48 | Kog | PerfDave, and a broken packeteer |
| 11:57.50 | cahoot | draconian: mp3 is 'data' |
| 11:57.57 | eka | why when boot my sound is muted? |
| 11:58.00 | PerfDave | Kog: Could be worse, I netinstalled Debian on a 64k leased line with 50 other users ;) |
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| 11:58.14 | Kog | PerfDave, I installed it via carrier pigeons once... |
| 11:58.21 | paulswm | Kog: Forget what I just said, I just read about your connection, sorry |
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| 11:58.26 | Kog | boy, were my amish friends pissed. |
| 11:59.02 | Fokker | cyberyo: ok, thanks. |
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| 11:59.13 | paulswm | At least you know who has stfu |
| 11:59.15 | Kog | paulswm, my point is merely I don't trust my net con... I can get 30k/sec now, but I dunno what it'll be later heh |
| 11:59.20 | Kog | paulswm, an op +q'd him |
| 11:59.23 | PerfDave | Illuminist: Well, I have no idea how you installed a 2.2.20 kernel using the Sarge installer. Sounds like an installer bug to me, you should ask #debian-boot about it. |
| 11:59.28 | paulswm | hooray |
| 11:59.41 | Kog | yeah... their nick started with an a |
| 12:00.00 | Zvpun | how do you measure the net connection in linux/debian? |
| 12:00.05 | Illuminist | PerfDave: I used the commands "kernelversion" and "uname -r" to it, could it be those commands returns something else? |
| 12:00.12 | Kog | asufield |
| 12:00.29 | paulswm | Yes, I just checked back |
| 12:00.47 | Kog | oh great... my netinstall stalled |
| 12:01.08 | Kog | in the words of Family Guy... KAAAAAHHHHNNNN |
| 12:01.12 | paulswm | PerfDave: I'm sure the sarge installer only has 2.4 and 2.6 kernels |
| 12:01.27 | jazzmans | family guy?!??! that's fred gassit. |
| 12:01.53 | Kog | jazzanova, the context in which I'm using it is from Family Guy... yeah... I know it's from somewhere else |
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| 12:02.02 | PerfDave | paulswm: So am I |
| 12:02.17 | PerfDave | Illuminist: kernelversion is the same command as uname -r, both should return the version of the running kernel |
| 12:02.20 | jazzmans | who is jazzanova? |
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| 12:03.07 | paulswm | PerfDave: And he didn't do a netinstall, but got the weekly ISOs, and there are definitely no 2.2 kernels in the sarge distro |
| 12:03.19 | PerfDave | paulswm: I was just checking that. |
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| 12:03.39 | PerfDave | Illuminist: I have *no* idea how you've done what you've done, if the information you've given us is correct. |
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| 12:03.54 | PerfDave | paulswm: "apt-cache search kernel-image-2.2" on my Sarge box here returns no results. |
| 12:04.04 | Kog | jazzmans, my nick complete + being awake for 2 days under harassment while being on-call as a first responder |
| 12:04.09 | Kog | jazzmans, sorry |
| 12:04.10 | paulswm | PerfDave: I did the same. Only 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 12:04.13 | Zvpun | how can I measure my (actual) net connection speed |
| 12:04.20 | SerajewelKS | i have a gay ISP that filters outgoing traffic on port 25 unless it's going to their mail servers. how can i configure exim 4 to blindly relay mail to this server, which requires authentication? |
| 12:04.22 | Kog | Zvpun, www.dslreports.com |
| 12:04.36 | jazzmans | np Kog. :) yankin' yer chain a bit. http://www.fahncahn.com/ |
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| 12:04.56 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: You need to hack config files to use SMTP authentication, but IIRC it's not hard and well-documented, both on the Exim website and in the config files' comments |
| 12:05.07 | SerajewelKS | okay |
| 12:05.11 | chino | how do you setup dhcp via cli ? |
| 12:05.13 | chino | netconfig ? |
| 12:05.16 | SerajewelKS | it's important that it NOT relay local mail, of course |
| 12:05.20 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: And it's OK to want to fuck people of your own gender, you don't have to get all precious about "gay". |
| 12:05.24 | chino | or is there a config file ? and startup script ? |
| 12:05.28 | Illuminist | PerfDave: could it be linked to some PCI module thing? cuz I tried installing several times and it kept telling me the IDE module wasn't installed but if i continue it *may* be installed at some point later |
| 12:05.30 | Kog | chino, I thought it was dhclient |
| 12:05.36 | Kog | maybe that's just gentoo tho |
| 12:05.37 | PerfDave | chino: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:05.43 | PerfDave | chino: or apt-get install etherconf |
| 12:05.52 | TheTom | any one know of a nice tool that'll check up some mp3's of mine against a cddb and tag them properly |
| 12:05.54 | Kog | PerfDave, no dhclient? |
| 12:06.12 | Illuminist | i tried googling ide-mod but could find any relevent information :( |
| 12:06.14 | trueno | Hi! is there a good gmailfs tutorial somewhere? I am trying to mount it and I get: "FATAL: Module fuse not found. fusermount: unable to open fuse device /proc/fs/fuse/dev: No such file or directory" |
| 12:06.18 | chino | does debian come default with init 5 working ? or do you need to run xorgconfig ? im trying to get my freind on his feet it looks like he has a default class a address |
| 12:06.20 | PerfDave | Kog: (a) Debian uses dhcpd-client IIRC (b) everything's done with a central configuration file. |
| 12:06.34 | SerajewelKS | ick |
| 12:06.37 | Kog | PerfDave, erm... okie |
| 12:06.39 | SerajewelKS | www.exim.org uses frames? -_- |
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| 12:07.06 | PerfDave | Illuminist: What options did you give the Sarge installer? |
| 12:07.17 | Illuminist | I used linux26 |
| 12:07.34 | SerajewelKS | Full Text Search: "forward mail smtp authentication" 0 results of about 1163 pages. (0.70 seconds) |
| 12:08.07 | chino | do you guys have a post install how to ? |
| 12:08.09 | chino | for tihs guy |
| 12:08.16 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: Use /sbin/eximconfig (woody) or "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" (Sarge) to set your exim up to relay mail to your ISP's server, then manually tweak the config file to allow auth? |
| 12:08.31 | PerfDave | Illuminist: I'd ask #debian-boot at this point, or try reinstalling. |
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| 12:09.16 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave, what exactly is a "smarthost"? |
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| 12:09.30 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: A smarthost is an SMTP server you want to relay non-local mail to. |
| 12:09.33 | Zvpun | Kog: I am now at www.dslreports.com, where would i find my actual net connection speed? |
| 12:09.35 | SerajewelKS | ah ha |
| 12:09.38 | aidehua_ | What's the command that automatically checks for a new version of upstream source and rebuilds a .deb? |
| 12:09.44 | SerajewelKS | so that's part of the puzzle |
| 12:09.53 | Kog | Zvpun, there's a tools section that will let you test line speed |
| 12:09.55 | Illuminist | k, I've checked the vmlinuz link and that links to boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-686 so could it be some stupid configuration mistake? |
| 12:10.00 | SerajewelKS | oh hey |
| 12:10.03 | Kog | Zvpun, they transfer MP3s to test it |
| 12:10.07 | SerajewelKS | the configlet says "Refer to /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/README.SMTP-AUTH for notes about setting up SMTP authentication." |
| 12:10.08 | Kog | (it's a java applet) |
| 12:10.10 | SerajewelKS | how handy |
| 12:10.14 | chino | bah debian doens't have like a book ? |
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| 12:11.59 | SerajewelKS | chino, because books need to be written |
| 12:12.02 | resiak | chino: Debian reference :-) |
| 12:12.06 | resiak | !dr |
| 12:12.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, dr is sometimes short for Disaster Recovery |
| 12:12.12 | resiak | !debian reference |
| 12:12.12 | dpkg | the debian reference guide used to be known as the debian quick reference [but now it's too big to be "quick"] and is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html |
| 12:12.15 | jar9000 | hi, one question for a newbie: how to read (withouth gunzip) those README.gz files?? |
| 12:12.20 | resiak | jar9000: zless |
| 12:12.22 | chino | not a book i jus tcall it that cause i use slakcware and they have th e"slackware book" on ther esite |
| 12:12.24 | jar9000 | thx |
| 12:12.26 | resiak | !tell jar9000 about lesspipe |
| 12:12.41 | SerajewelKS | !hello |
| 12:12.41 | dpkg | Hi, serajewelks! |
| 12:13.49 | SerajewelKS | thanks PerfDave |
| 12:13.54 | SerajewelKS | now i can report that jpilot security hole |
| 12:15.02 | PerfDave | Illuminist: Have you done anything kernel-related to your system since installing Sarge? |
| 12:15.37 | SerajewelKS | ooo windows |
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| 12:15.49 | Kog | seeya PerfDave |
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| 12:16.09 | afx_twn | yo |
| 12:16.12 | rixth | I've got port 111 open, heard it's not too flash, what can I do to close it? |
| 12:17.06 | afx_twn | when i try to boot linux i get taken to grub, can i use a knoppix live CD to install lilo to that partition? or even boot sans grub |
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| 12:17.49 | Zvpun | afx_twn: I dont understand your question |
| 12:17.50 | daft_ | afx_twn, you can use grub to boot with out a menu list |
| 12:18.17 | Kog | noooo, burn4free is now spyware supported |
| 12:18.19 | afx_twn | i cant use grub at all |
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| 12:18.33 | afx_twn | when i try to boot with it i get kernel panics |
| 12:18.50 | Zvpun | is there also a program that meassures connection speed or do I have to use external sites? |
| 12:18.51 | daft_ | afx_twn, do you have mutliple partitions |
| 12:18.57 | afx_twn | yes |
| 12:19.20 | aidehua_ | lesspipe> teh leet! |
| 12:19.34 | daft_ | afx_twn, you need to say to grub what your root partiton is |
| 12:19.42 | afx_twn | k |
| 12:19.55 | afx_twn | i think its (Hd0,2) |
| 12:19.56 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: Yeah, it's not mine, I'm getting paid to admin a 'doze network occasionally. |
| 12:19.58 | afx_twn | how do i tell it that |
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| 12:20.24 | ekl | hi, newbie here.. is there a way to use testing pkgs but keep a good security support ? |
| 12:20.29 | chino | is pump or one of the dhcp clients installed by default ? |
| 12:20.29 | rixth | Is there any good reason to have port 113 open to the outside world apart from slightly faster logins to IRC? |
| 12:20.57 | PerfDave | ekl: No, Testing doesn't get security updates. |
| 12:20.59 | Zvpun | ekl: read security mailinglists? I dont know |
| 12:21.00 | PerfDave | chino: It should be. |
| 12:21.13 | daft_ | afx_twn, root (hd0,2) |
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| 12:21.24 | PerfDave | ekl: You can read debian-security-announce and hand-patch anything that has problems. I wouldn't call that "good security support" though. |
| 12:21.26 | claudio | hi |
| 12:21.35 | ekl | mhm.. |
| 12:21.40 | simonrvn | ekl: sub to debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org, and keep an eye on it |
| 12:21.44 | claudio | someone can help me? |
| 12:22.03 | simonrvn | claudio: could you ask a question? |
| 12:22.06 | rixth | claudio: dont ask to ask :) |
| 12:22.07 | PerfDave | !tell claudio -about ask |
| 12:22.28 | claudio | i'm tryng to install the 6.2.6 kernel on a dell 5150 |
| 12:22.33 | chino | is debian auto setup to do dhcp like if you were to plug it into a hub would it pic up the cable modem dhcp server ? |
| 12:22.38 | paulswm | rixth: Not really, as far as I know, and I googled around on this a few weeks ago. decied to keep mine opne, though, have had no annoyances (yet) |
| 12:22.47 | afx_twn | daft_ : so do i tell it that first |
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| 12:22.51 | afx_twn | then what do i do? |
| 12:22.55 | claudio | but at the startup |
| 12:23.00 | ekl | so the only way to have a secure server is to use woody at the moment |
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| 12:23.15 | daft_ | afx_twn, you can edit your grub menu with 'e' |
| 12:23.16 | ekl | well i mean "secure" |
| 12:23.19 | claudio | i'ts blocked |
| 12:23.30 | paulswm | ARSEN finally gave up, hooray |
| 12:23.30 | claudio | don't start |
| 12:23.32 | chino | why did my friends pc get a default class A address ? |
| 12:23.40 | rixth | Also, waht about port 111 (sunrpc) |
| 12:23.42 | claudio | i'm a newbie in linux .. |
| 12:23.45 | afx_twn | kk |
| 12:23.50 | afx_twn | right cheers |
| 12:23.55 | johnnyST | Is dcgui-qt broken in debian? |
| 12:23.57 | afx_twn | ill go fiddle about with this |
| 12:23.59 | afx_twn | adios |
| 12:24.12 | PerfDave | chino: Yes |
| 12:24.15 | claudio | can I uninstall the kernel? |
| 12:24.19 | war- | Are there any benefits in using this kernel option on older (Dell/Pentium 3 boxes)? [ ] Local APIC support on uniprocessors |
| 12:24.24 | PerfDave | johnnyST: Check the BTS |
| 12:24.26 | chino | PerfDave: ? |
| 12:24.40 | chino | it seems as though it didn't get a ip from the dhcp server |
| 12:24.46 | PerfDave | chino: Yes, Debian will check for a DHCP lease when you install it, and configure your network interface to use DHCP if it gets one. |
| 12:24.49 | claudio | i've tryed the 386 and the 686 release.. |
| 12:24.53 | johnnyST | PerfDave, I have did not find anything like that. |
| 12:24.58 | chino | so why didn't it work ? |
| 12:25.15 | PerfDave | johnnyST: Then nobody has reported it as a bug. This does not mean that it is broken, necessarily. |
| 12:25.16 | ekl | see ya thanks |
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| 12:25.20 | PerfDave | chino: I don't know, maybe your DHCP server is fucked or you screwed something up. |
| 12:25.23 | rixth | All of a sudden, my numpad keys don't work (with or without numlock) |
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| 12:25.27 | chino | can you setup a dhcp server ip so it could try to request directly ? |
| 12:25.27 | rixth | Any iedas? |
| 12:25.34 | PerfDave | chino: What does your /etc/network/interfaces say ? |
| 12:25.51 | chino | its not mine im trying to talk my freind through this and his pc is in another room lol |
| 12:26.03 | chino | i asked him about the interfaces it has the correct line in the config file |
| 12:26.12 | chino | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 12:26.16 | johnnyST | PerfDave, It have not been update since june. I think some updates have broken it. |
| 12:26.34 | aidehua_ | I've got some software here with the file "debian/changelog.Debian" in the source tree. Should that be "debian/changelog"? |
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| 12:27.31 | PerfDave | aidehua_: /msg dpkg dnm |
| 12:27.58 | PerfDave | chino: Is there also an "auto eth0" line in the interfaces file? Nothing else in the "iface eth0" stanza? |
| 12:28.31 | chino | hang on |
| 12:28.46 | troubl1 | im in |
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| 12:29.05 | johnnyST | PerfDave, I found it :) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=293865 |
| 12:29.09 | chino | troubl1: PerfDave: asked; chino: Is there also an "auto eth0" line in the interfaces file? Nothing else in the "iface eth0" stanza? |
| 12:29.25 | troubl1 | no |
| 12:29.30 | troubl1 | wait |
| 12:29.32 | chino | troubl1: hes asking if the eth0 section has "auto eth0" |
| 12:29.35 | chino | and anything else |
| 12:29.59 | troubl1 | yes it does |
| 12:30.20 | PerfDave | troubl1: Have you done "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0" to re-read the config from the file? |
| 12:30.21 | troubl1 | i have both |
| 12:30.31 | chino | i thought about that |
| 12:30.41 | chino | this is his first time ever using linux |
| 12:30.45 | troubl1 | i would of if i even knew what that means |
| 12:30.51 | chino | i thought debian at least starting wtih x11 default setup with vesa or something... |
| 12:30.59 | chino | troubl1: hes saying |
| 12:31.01 | chino | do this |
| 12:31.09 | chino | ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 12:31.10 | PerfDave | troubl1: Do you want to paste the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file either to #flood or the pastebot at http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 12:31.12 | troubl1 | get the hammer now ? |
| 12:31.28 | PerfDave | chino: Debian will install with X if you ask it to. |
| 12:31.42 | chino | yes but what run level by default ? |
| 12:31.49 | chino | and i told him to do init 5 |
| 12:31.53 | chino | he said nothing happend lol |
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| 12:32.00 | PerfDave | chino: Why are you fucking around with runlevels? |
| 12:32.02 | troubl1 | prefdave i dont know how to do that |
| 12:32.14 | chino | so it would startup kdm or such for him ... |
| 12:32.19 | PerfDave | troubl1: You don't know how to do what? |
| 12:32.25 | troubl1 | anythin |
| 12:32.30 | PerfDave | chino: You don't need to fuck aroudn with runlevels. You just install kdm and it'll run on boot. |
| 12:32.32 | chino | ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 12:32.33 | lkthomas | guys, please take a look |
| 12:32.33 | lkthomas | http://pastebin.com/243687 |
| 12:32.34 | troubl1 | well thats not tru |
| 12:32.37 | chino | troubl1: do this ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 12:32.50 | troubl1 | where ? |
| 12:32.52 | PerfDave | troubl1: Did you read the Installation Manual or FAQ or any other documentation? |
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| 12:32.57 | chino | PerfDave: thats if your inittab is setup for default run 5 |
| 12:33.06 | chino | no thats whta i told him hes walking blind |
| 12:33.10 | PerfDave | chino: DEBIAN IS SET UP SO THIS ALL JUST WORKS |
| 12:33.21 | chino | i sent him links but there probably to over whelming for him |
| 12:33.26 | troubl1 | yes |
| 12:33.28 | chino | PerfDave: thats whta i figured |
| 12:33.28 | PerfDave | If you haven't fucked something up, then it'll all just work. |
| 12:33.36 | troubl1 | its like reading german |
| 12:33.45 | chino | so he didn't install properly ? |
| 12:33.51 | troubl1 | i have installed and changed nothing |
| 12:33.57 | chino | troubl1: how did you install ? |
| 12:34.01 | aidehua_ | dpkg: shouting |
| 12:34.01 | dpkg | it has been said that shouting is typing in ALL CAPS. It is considered rude and will likely not get a useful response. |
| 12:34.03 | troubl1 | netinst |
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| 12:34.16 | PerfDave | troubl1: Which version of Debian did you install? |
| 12:34.16 | chino | thats irelavant |
| 12:34.21 | aidehua_ | dpkg: you say that like it's a *bad* thing :) |
| 12:34.21 | dpkg | aidehua_: i don't know |
| 12:34.23 | chino | sarge netinst cd |
| 12:34.33 | PerfDave | troubl1: Are you even sure that it was Debian you installed? |
| 12:34.35 | troubl1 | errr |
| 12:34.37 | troubl1 | wait |
| 12:34.46 | chino | troubl1: what i was asking is during the install how did you install did it ask you questions etc... ? |
| 12:35.00 | PerfDave | troubl1: Just go to http://channels.debian.net/paste/ and copy in the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file, so we can see what we're dealing with. |
| 12:35.01 | chino | PerfDave: i gave him the link to netinst cd for sarge here ill get it |
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| 12:35.36 | chino | PerfDave: how is he goin to copy it if the pc has no internet connection ? |
| 12:35.47 | troubl1 | i dont know |
| 12:35.56 | chino | PerfDave: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 12:36.00 | chino | thats whre i sent him |
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| 12:36.07 | chino | he got the i386 netinst |
| 12:36.15 | PerfDave | chino: Read, type. |
| 12:36.20 | PerfDave | chino: It's not very hard. |
| 12:36.26 | chino | k |
| 12:36.27 | troubl1 | i386 |
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| 12:36.31 | PerfDave | But without knowing what's in that file, I can't help. |
| 12:36.34 | racoontje | OK, scummvm and alsa problem. Internal aalib doesn't work, and using alsa gives: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory |
| 12:36.40 | chino | troubl1: you heard him type in the contents of that file |
| 12:36.43 | racoontje | Which is true, I don't have /dev/snd/seq |
| 12:36.53 | racoontje | the problem is, where /IS/ my midi sequencer? |
| 12:36.54 | troubl1 | what file ? |
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| 12:37.21 | troubl1 | sorry about this but i forget real fast |
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| 12:37.33 | chino | troubl1: scroll up |
| 12:37.46 | chino | /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:37.58 | troubl1 | ok wait |
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| 12:39.23 | chino | PerfDave: if i give him the right ifconfig line can i setup his network and it will work fine ? |
| 12:39.27 | chino | or should he ifdown first ? |
| 12:39.37 | directhex | racoontje, you don't have one. read the scummvm readme |
| 12:39.56 | directhex | racoontje, on the scummvm website if need be |
| 12:39.58 | PerfDave | chino: If you use ifconfig, it won't work after reboot, but may be a good temporary fix |
| 12:40.01 | phorce1 | chino: Do not try to get him operational using ifconfig. |
| 12:40.06 | eka | hi all |
| 12:40.13 | chino | well its just so i can connect via ssh |
| 12:40.18 | chino | for now |
| 12:40.27 | troubl1 | aouto lo |
| 12:40.27 | troubl1 | iface lo inet loopback |
| 12:40.27 | troubl1 | auto eth0 |
| 12:40.27 | troubl1 | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 12:40.32 | eka | my sound is muted at startup. how to unmute my sound at startup? (ALSA) |
| 12:40.32 | phorce1 | he needs to have his /etc/network/interfaces set up right or it won't work after reboot |
| 12:40.45 | achaoge | racoontje, modprobe -v snd-seq |
| 12:40.50 | Illuminist | PerfDave: thanks for helping me earlier it's all good now :) |
| 12:40.58 | PerfDave | troubl1: If you have trouble remembering stuff, get a piece of paper and write things down. You are going to have *real* trouble dealing with problems in Linux if you can't, and will piss off the people who are trying to help you. |
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| 12:41.02 | PerfDave | Illuminist: What did you do? |
| 12:41.16 | Illuminist | something really stupid :-/ |
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| 12:41.27 | PerfDave | God I hate Windows |
| 12:41.31 | chino | troubl1: he said paste it here: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 12:41.47 | troubl1 | ok |
| 12:41.48 | phorce1 | PerfDave: looks like his interfaces file is good though |
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| 12:42.14 | Illuminist | I was using a boot disk, and that had an old kernel image on it |
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| 12:43.00 | chino | PerfDave: this is the information from his windows pc: IP Address - 213.107.150.136 Subnet Mask - 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway - 213.107.150.254 I used that to create this line "ifconfig eth0 213.107.150.137 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 213.107.150.255" |
| 12:43.04 | chino | that looks good right ? |
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| 12:43.16 | phorce1 | troubl1: That looked good -- try typing and the command line. ifdown eth0 [ENTER] ifup eth0 [ENTER] |
| 12:43.22 | claudio | hi.. |
| 12:43.29 | claudio | can you help me? |
| 12:43.41 | petemc | ifdown/up reads /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:43.43 | claudio | i've installed the ndiswrapper |
| 12:43.58 | claudio | but when i run modprobe |
| 12:44.01 | chino | troubl1: you there ? |
| 12:44.17 | claudio | I see this:Can't locate module ndiswrapper |
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| 12:44.33 | claudio | what i can do? |
| 12:44.39 | troubl1 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/279. |
| 12:44.41 | phorce1 | petemc: Yep -- trying to get his dhcp working. /e/n/interfaces looked good so he needs to try a down/up cycle |
| 12:44.45 | troubl1 | there iit is |
| 12:44.48 | trueno | Hi! is there a good gmailfs tutorial somewhere? I am trying to mount it and I get: "FATAL: Module fuse not found. fusermount: unable to open fuse device /proc/fs/fuse/dev: No such file or directory" |
| 12:45.01 | claudio | someone can help me? |
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| 12:45.31 | claudio | the ndiswrapper is un.. |
| 12:45.37 | chino | troubl1: listen just type this please "ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0" |
| 12:45.37 | petemc | phorce1: sorry, im talking at cross purposes, thought you were talking to chino |
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| 12:46.10 | directhex | claudio, ndiswrapper needs to be compiled for your kernel. apt-get install module-assistant, m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
| 12:46.34 | andi5 | hi. easy question: is there a /etc/network/interfaces way for specifying a second (multiple) loopback devices? thanks in advance :) |
| 12:46.35 | claudio | thank you directhex |
| 12:46.37 | phorce1 | petemc: trying to talk chino out of having him attempt typing in a complete ifconfig line manually since interfaces looks good. |
| 12:46.57 | chino | lol |
| 12:47.01 | chino | thats waht i figured |
| 12:47.09 | troubl1 | on the fone |
| 12:47.09 | chino | but he takes years to do wath you say |
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| 12:47.15 | chino | see what i mean |
| 12:47.19 | chino | id rather ssh in |
| 12:47.38 | chino | troubl1: im goin to sleep |
| 12:47.45 | troubl1 | ok night |
| 12:47.47 | chino | your installed if f**cked |
| 12:47.52 | phorce1 | if ifdown/up doesn't fix it then there's some problem that ifconfig won't fix either |
| 12:48.11 | chino | yea but his system should boot to gui default |
| 12:48.14 | chino | he didn't setup something |
| 12:48.47 | phorce1 | chino: Only if he actually selected X during the tasksel phase. |
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| 12:49.01 | chino | isn't there like a full install |
| 12:49.05 | chino | or just default |
| 12:49.22 | claudio | cazzo... you directhex |
| 12:49.22 | claudio | <phorce1> petem |
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| 12:49.26 | phorce1 | (and deb still uses runlevel 2 for everything, even if you add XDM) |
| 12:49.27 | chino | troubl1: it did seem like you installed pretty fast did you mess with teh installation ? |
| 12:49.28 | troubl1 | ok i gonna reinstall |
| 12:49.37 | chino | did you uncheck things ? |
| 12:49.46 | troubl1 | i did what it said do onscreen |
| 12:49.51 | claudio | the kernel header was not fuonded.. |
| 12:49.57 | chino | well do a full install or whatever |
| 12:49.57 | troubl1 | all default |
| 12:49.57 | claudio | founded |
| 12:50.02 | troubl1 | i changed nothing |
| 12:50.16 | chino | phorce1: what d oyou think ? |
| 12:50.27 | chino | troubl1: did you type "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0" yet? |
| 12:50.36 | troubl1 | no |
| 12:50.39 | claudio | direct.. |
| 12:50.40 | Kog | alright... mini-iso ready |
| 12:50.45 | chino | **** |
| 12:50.46 | Kog | gonna try installing sarge |
| 12:50.47 | troubl1 | coz i cant get out of ifconfig |
| 12:50.50 | claudio | can you help me? |
| 12:50.59 | phorce1 | chino: "default" means he probably selected nothing during the tasksel section. Needed to select "desktop environment" |
| 12:51.04 | chino | troubl1: what!!!! |
| 12:51.14 | chino | troubl1: redo the install |
| 12:51.20 | troubl1 | ok |
| 12:51.20 | chino | and check off things like desktop networking |
| 12:51.21 | chino | lol |
| 12:51.23 | troubl1 | gimme 20 |
| 12:51.29 | paulswm | Kog: May you have an uninterrupted connection :) |
| 12:51.33 | chino | yea ill go jerk a fast one and come back |
| 12:51.35 | chino | lol im goin to sleep |
| 12:51.36 | troubl1 | chino u go sleep |
| 12:51.39 | troubl1 | lol |
| 12:51.40 | phorce1 | troubl1: There is no being "in" |
| 12:51.40 | claudio | with the 6.2 kernel my notebook don't start |
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| 12:51.43 | phorce1 | oops |
| 12:52.07 | chino | i think hes in pico |
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| 12:52.16 | phorce1 | troubl1: There is no being "in" ifconfig. It is a one-shot command line program that makes changes, spits out info, and goes away |
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| 12:52.47 | troubl1 | ok fi*k it im gonna reinstall |
| 12:52.51 | chino | troubl1: ^ mean ctrl thus ^X means ctrl+x |
| 12:52.54 | chino | to get out of pico |
| 12:53.02 | troubl1 | ahhh |
| 12:53.13 | chino | troubl1: yea reinstall |
| 12:53.15 | troubl1 | but im still gonna reinstall |
| 12:53.19 | troubl1 | brb |
| 12:53.19 | chino | check off evetrything.l............... |
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| 12:53.24 | troubl1 | k |
| 12:53.25 | claudio | can i uninstall a kernel? |
| 12:53.34 | phorce1 | chino: He has a BIG drive? |
| 12:53.42 | chino | troubl1: tlak to this guy |
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| 12:54.10 | phorce1 | chino: Only for 10 more minutes -- work about to start |
| 12:54.12 | chino | what does he need for full intall slackware is like 3 and thats a full |
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| 12:54.39 | setnf | hi. whereis includes.h:19: statgrab.h: No such file or directory ? |
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| 12:55.13 | phorce1 | chino: The debian installer grabs from the net. "everything" in tasksel is X desktop environment, web server, mail server, database server, development tools, etc... |
| 12:55.30 | chino | troubl1: you listening ? |
| 12:55.39 | chino | i think hes in other room installing |
| 12:55.45 | chino | ill paste your message to him pm |
| 12:55.47 | setnf | someone can answer me ? |
| 12:56.11 | setnf | where can i found statgrab.h: No such file or directory ? |
| 12:56.20 | troubl1 | yes i am |
| 12:56.23 | troubl1 | was* |
| 12:56.23 | phorce1 | chino, troubl1: At the tasksel point he should probably just select the X Desktop Environment one and leave the rest default. Other stuff can be added later. |
| 12:56.28 | chino | setnf: use locate |
| 12:56.33 | war- | Is /proc/kcore required in 2.6? If I compile the kernel without it, will anything break? |
| 12:57.29 | setnf | chino: i havent what package can i get ? |
| 12:58.18 | petemc | chino: locate isnt much good fi you dont have that file on your system, or if you do have, and updatedb hasnt ran yet |
| 12:58.32 | chino | thats what man is for |
| 12:59.26 | eka | how to unmute my sound at boot? |
| 12:59.30 | setnf | petemc: do you know where can i get ? |
| 13:00.01 | valdyn | eka: with alsa? /etc/init.d/alsa start does that for you, provided you shut down your box with volume unmuted |
| 13:00.03 | petemc | setnf: /msg dpkg search, most likely kernel-headers-`uname -r` or $package-dev |
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| 13:00.15 | setnf | k |
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| 13:00.34 | valdyn | eka: you dont have to do anything yourself for that. |
| 13:00.36 | eka | nop sound now is unmuted if i reboot i get it mutrd |
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| 13:01.05 | valdyn | eka: run "alsactl store" and "alsactl restore" yourself, see if it works |
| 13:01.14 | eka | ok |
| 13:01.21 | valdyn | eka: now if you're not using alsa thats a different issue |
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| 13:01.47 | eka | yes alsa |
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| 13:01.52 | Iwantlove | http://www.cotedeporc.org/team_concept/ |
| 13:01.54 | eka | and alsactl store works |
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| 13:01.57 | totzilla | morning y'all |
| 13:02.11 | eka | so where i put that so it save it? |
| 13:02.29 | eka | i mean when shuting down and booting |
| 13:02.53 | sussudio | spammer |
| 13:03.07 | eka | valdyn: it works |
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| 13:03.31 | valdyn | eka: does /etc/init.d/alsa exist? |
| 13:03.34 | eka | valdyn: so where i put that so at boot time it restores to last point? |
| 13:03.36 | eka | yes |
| 13:03.51 | valdyn | eka: nowhere at all, its done for you |
| 13:03.54 | dan2 | asg: yo |
| 13:03.55 | eka | ohh |
| 13:03.57 | eka | ok |
| 13:04.08 | eka | thx |
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| 13:04.50 | priest | in which config file do i edit to make the xserver listen do incoming connections over the lan? |
| 13:05.11 | valdyn | eka: try rebooting or "/etc/init.d/alsa stop" and "/etc/init.d/alsa start" to see |
| 13:05.35 | PerfDave | God, but roxio is a steaming pile |
| 13:05.45 | valdyn | eka: it is possible that things still dont work, so try, tell me after rebooting |
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| 13:07.26 | phorce1 | PerfDave: the ezcd crap? I dump roxio stuff and use Nero on any winboxen that need to burn anything. Roxio was bad BEFORE M$ decided to "endorse" it |
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| 13:08.11 | racoontje | OK, scummvm and alsa problem. Internal aalib doesn't work, and using alsa gives: WARNING: Sound initialisation failed.! |
| 13:08.12 | racoontje | Found BASS version v0.0368 (5099 dnr entries) |
| 13:08.12 | racoontje | Can't subscribe to MIDI port (65:0)! |
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| 13:08.22 | PerfDave | phorce1: I'm sure that this box had Nero on, but it doesn't seem to now and I can't find the install CD. |
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| 13:08.47 | PerfDave | phorce1: Oh well, I will be reinstalling this box with Linux soon anyway, i'm just getting the data files off onto CD-R |
| 13:09.29 | christor | Hello, I have a problem of printer under gnome, I can print from opoenoffice, from the term... but I can t from mozilla? |
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| 13:09.56 | valdyn | christor: apt-get install cupsys-bsd |
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| 13:10.40 | gilles | again, all my icons on the desktop have disappeared (they often disappear when I do any action, at any time, but they are showed up when initially), i have to type the command : "fam" and "nautilus -q" to make it reappear... How can I fix the problem permanently |
| 13:10.52 | eka | vladyn: it boots muted again |
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| 13:11.08 | jcuk | How do i play real media files on either xmms or totem? |
| 13:11.34 | valdyn | eka: your /etc/init.d/alsa is started before alsa modules are loaded - or so it seems to me |
| 13:11.58 | eka | where /etc/init.d/alsa is called? |
| 13:12.13 | valdyn | eka: alsaconf *may* fix that - no idea. Adding your alsa driver to /etc/modules _will_ fix that. |
| 13:12.21 | jcuk | How do i play real media files on either xmms or totem? |
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| 13:12.35 | petemc | jcuk: add a marillat source and install w32codecs |
| 13:12.40 | PerfDave | !tell jcuk -about repeat |
| 13:12.41 | petemc | jcuk: and dont repeat |
| 13:12.48 | eka | can be that my kernel has OSS modules also? |
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| 13:12.57 | christor | valdyn: OK problem resolved THX |
| 13:13.00 | valdyn | eka: via the link in /etc/rc6.d iirc |
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| 13:13.04 | schizoschaf | hi |
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| 13:13.13 | jcuk | ok sorry |
| 13:13.23 | phorce1 | valdyn: rc6 is shutdown |
| 13:13.37 | phorce1 | valdyn: rc2 is normal startup |
| 13:13.43 | valdyn | phorce1: ok, so i had that wrong, thanks |
| 13:13.59 | valdyn | eka: look at what phorce1 said, but that should not concern you either way |
| 13:14.43 | phorce1 | and the first phone calls of the workday start arriving. Gone til later folks <sigh> |
| 13:14.47 | chrysopa | Hi. |
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| 13:15.34 | chrysopa | I try to use the find command, but it fail to find all files. It find only few files. |
| 13:15.49 | chrysopa | I use this: find ./ -name *.jpg |
| 13:16.16 | chrysopa | But it dont find all jpg files! Why? |
| 13:16.17 | neko` | well |
| 13:16.24 | neko` | find ./ is that the correct path? |
| 13:16.30 | chrysopa | yes. |
| 13:16.31 | neko` | searches pwd and onward |
| 13:16.38 | neko` | cwd even |
| 13:16.47 | valdyn | whats the default priority of discover in /etc/rc2.d ? |
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| 13:16.50 | chrysopa | I try whi complete path. |
| 13:16.54 | TheTom | chrysopa: if you fant to find a command you could locate or whereis |
| 13:17.30 | phorce1 | valdyn: they all go by the numbers. 00 first to 99 last to be run |
| 13:17.43 | valdyn | phorce1: yep i would like to know that number |
| 13:18.06 | chrysopa | I need do find all html files to apply a recode. |
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| 13:18.16 | Cspnico | hii |
| 13:18.21 | chrysopa | jpg is only the example |
| 13:18.33 | phorce1 | valdyn: OH! the default of the script /etc/init.d/discover (DUH!) |
| 13:18.36 | Cspnico | Wha have a version in *deb of wlan-ng please? |
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| 13:19.00 | valdyn | phorce1: i just didnt want to download it |
| 13:19.05 | saerdna | how do i ping from eth1? |
| 13:19.27 | phorce1 | valdyn: I'm on a woody box right now -- no discover to look at |
| 13:19.42 | aidehua_ | saerdna: ping an address that will be routed out of eth1 perhaps? |
| 13:20.01 | saerdna | bah! |
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| 13:20.17 | aidehua_ | Is there an automatic way of packaging CPAN modules into .debs? |
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| 13:20.22 | chrysopa | When I use this: find ./ -name *.jpg, it find two files. but if I use find ./ -name fundo.jpg, it find the fundo.jpg file, that is not find in the first command. Ist is very estrange |
| 13:20.24 | heckpiet | hello |
| 13:20.29 | petemc | aidehua_: dh-make-perl |
| 13:20.36 | aidehua_ | petemc: ta |
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| 13:20.45 | Akrame | hi all friends |
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| 13:21.04 | eka | no clue |
| 13:21.05 | eka | later |
| 13:21.06 | chrysopa | anybody have any idea? |
| 13:21.24 | heckpiet | is there a xfree86 config tool, which detects automatic the video card and the screen ? |
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| 13:21.36 | neko` | chrysopa: enclose -name "*.jpg" btw |
| 13:21.37 | juhov | chrysopa: do you get different results find ./ -name '*.jpg' ? |
| 13:21.42 | neko` | yeah... |
| 13:21.43 | valdyn | !setup x |
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| 13:21.52 | paulswm | chrysopa: find ./ -name '*.jpg' -note the quotes |
| 13:22.11 | chrysopa | I try it |
| 13:22.29 | abrotman | paulswm: you're up early |
| 13:22.38 | chrysopa | Thanks, it works now. |
| 13:22.49 | Illuminist | heckpiet: have u tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" |
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| 13:22.53 | paulswm | abrotman: you too, I'm always up before 0500 |
| 13:22.59 | valdyn | heckpiet: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will do it for you i think, assuming you have read-edid ( for monitor ) installed and whatever else for your gfx card ( no idea ) |
| 13:23.13 | heckpiet | illuminate yes .... |
| 13:23.28 | heckpiet | but i try it again |
| 13:24.11 | napsy | I do have a problem with apt. I added ubuntu repository to apt-sources and try to upgrade gnome. That fails and gnome is corrupted. I removed ubuntu's repository and try to reinstall gnome but it fails becose of the depandency errors. It reports that some packages are inpossible to install. Why? It worked previously. |
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| 13:24.25 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 13:24.25 | dpkg | from memory, ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu |
| 13:24.30 | Akrame | abauer |
| 13:24.34 | Akrame | abrotman ubuntu is not debian |
| 13:24.36 | Akrame | try #ubuntu |
| 13:24.37 | abrotman | napsy: too late .. |
| 13:24.40 | abrotman | Akrame: quiet |
| 13:24.43 | napsy | um |
| 13:24.44 | Akrame | ok |
| 13:24.45 | Akrame | sorry |
| 13:24.47 | napsy | can i repair apt |
| 13:24.50 | napsy | ? |
| 13:24.51 | abrotman | napsy: you've already mixed ... |
| 13:25.01 | napsy | so |
| 13:25.03 | abrotman | napsy: you'd have to purge all (every single piece) of gnome |
| 13:25.07 | Shay | napsy; of course you can, good luck <g> |
| 13:25.09 | abrotman | and maybe then you could repair it |
| 13:25.21 | napsy | bad :( |
| 13:25.25 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 13:25.25 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 13:25.27 | napsy | so I must reinstall |
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| 13:25.33 | abrotman | napsy: very bad .. don't mix |
| 13:25.37 | abrotman | napsy: reinstall what? |
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| 13:25.39 | valdyn | abrotman: just reinstalling w/ that confmiss thing should do it? |
| 13:25.40 | napsy | debian |
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| 13:25.55 | abrotman | valdyn: his base gnome packages could be biffed |
| 13:26.16 | abrotman | valdyn: i think he would have to --forget-old-avail ? |
| 13:26.20 | heckpiet | my problem is i've got a nvdia geforce card and a 19" Samsung Screen |
| 13:26.32 | abrotman | your problem is nvidia |
| 13:26.43 | valdyn | abrotman: no idea, guess reinstall is easier in any case |
| 13:26.49 | abrotman | the monitor has nothing to do with it |
| 13:26.53 | abrotman | valdyn: debateable |
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| 13:27.51 | Zeffy | How do I find which sound system my system uses? |
| 13:28.16 | racoontje | Zeffy, lsmod and check what modules are loaded |
| 13:28.23 | abrotman | i wonder how ubuntu gnome is an upgrade |
| 13:28.24 | cahoot | Zeffy: meaning alsa vs oss? |
| 13:28.28 | troubl1 | phorce1 |
| 13:28.31 | Zeffy | Yes.. |
| 13:28.31 | troubl1 | ??? |
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| 13:29.21 | cahoot | Zeffy: check if /proc/asound exists - then alsa |
| 13:29.25 | troubl1 | phorce1 r u there ??? |
| 13:30.01 | troubl1 | ohmy |
| 13:30.07 | troubl1 | i need some elp |
| 13:30.13 | troubl1 | help* |
| 13:30.24 | Zeffy | cahoot: it exist's so it's ALSA. |
| 13:30.27 | valdyn | heckpiet: you may need nvidias proprietary drivers : "/msg dpkg nvidia drivers". Your display info can be found by "get-edid | parse-edid" if dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 does not do it for you. |
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| 13:31.41 | alfatau | hi could i force a specific nameserver using dhclient?? |
| 13:32.13 | Zeffy | cahoot: I need to configure XMMS but it doesn't seems to like the output driver, keeps telling me to check output plug-ins, i've tried them all. I will have to continue with the research. |
| 13:32.29 | paulswm | troubl1: ask your question or state your problem, others are here who might help |
| 13:32.45 | abrotman | !u |
| 13:32.45 | dpkg | It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 13:32.46 | troubl1 | ok ty |
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| 13:33.03 | abrotman | napsy: that was quick |
| 13:33.06 | napsy | no |
| 13:33.10 | abrotman | no? |
| 13:33.10 | napsy | it doesn't work |
| 13:33.23 | napsy | --force-confmiss |
| 13:33.28 | abrotman | i didn't say it would |
| 13:33.34 | abrotman | you have to make dpkg/apt forget about ubuntu |
| 13:33.37 | troubl1 | i have just installed debian but i dont know how to start it with a desktop or even if i have installed a desktop with it :( |
| 13:33.49 | napsy | any other ideas? |
| 13:34.01 | abrotman | did you not read what i wrote before ? |
| 13:34.07 | napsy | yes |
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| 13:34.12 | napsy | but how to do that |
| 13:34.14 | valdyn | troubl1: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 13:34.14 | abrotman | napsy: and what did i say? |
| 13:34.17 | abrotman | man dpkg |
| 13:34.24 | napsy | ok |
| 13:34.32 | cahoot | Zeffy: does a simple aplay 'some.wav' produce sound? |
| 13:34.32 | troubl1 | ty brbr |
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| 13:35.59 | Zeffy | cahoot: yes |
| 13:36.03 | napsy | should I use the purge option? |
| 13:36.18 | cahoot | Zeffy: ok the basic sound systems is healthy then |
| 13:36.53 | abrotman | napsy: my word .. you really didn't read what i wrote before did you ? |
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| 13:37.31 | troubl1 | ok this is real bad, i think my root password is not working |
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| 13:37.39 | giupy | hardware raid controller "controls" cdrom too ? |
| 13:37.54 | abrotman | you tell us |
| 13:37.58 | abrotman | you did the cabling right ? |
| 13:38.38 | napsy | abrotman: i cleaned the cache, removed the repository from sources |
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| 13:38.48 | abrotman | napsy: and? |
| 13:38.54 | napsy | still the same |
| 13:38.59 | giupy | abrotman ? |
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| 13:39.02 | abrotman | napsy: dpkg --forget-old-unavail |
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| 13:39.07 | abrotman | napsy: did you try that? |
| 13:39.11 | napsy | wait |
| 13:39.13 | nomed^ | hi |
| 13:39.17 | abrotman | well . did you try it napsy ? |
| 13:39.31 | abrotman | giupy: how did you calbe your CD drive? |
| 13:39.46 | giupy | abrotman dunno i have a notebool ECS G900 |
| 13:39.47 | napsy | abrotman: what does it do? |
| 13:39.56 | abrotman | napsy: man dpkg .. like i told you .. 10 minutes ago? |
| 13:40.05 | abrotman | giupy: and it has raid ? |
| 13:40.06 | cahoot | Zeffy: try 'fuser -v /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p' - see if anything is occupying the device |
| 13:40.21 | Zeffy | If I install software by compiling without using the package manager. Will "apt-get update" catch software updates for me? |
| 13:40.29 | napsy | abrotman: tried but it doesn't work |
| 13:40.35 | abrotman | napsy: what does it do? |
| 13:40.45 | giupy | abrotman yeah but for 2 hd 2x80gb but i would like to know if can it be possible a raid controller for cdrom too |
| 13:40.46 | napsy | when trying |
| 13:40.46 | abrotman | sussudio: still watching ? |
| 13:40.47 | nomed^ | how can i change the default colors on aterm ...? FILE 00;37 in .dircolors doesn't work |
| 13:40.58 | sussudio | abrotman: wha? |
| 13:40.59 | napsy | i make: apt-get install gnome-desktop |
| 13:41.09 | abrotman | sussudio: dpkg --forget-old-unavail .. right ? |
| 13:41.15 | napsy | it just prints out a bunch of dependencies |
| 13:41.20 | sussudio | abrotman: meh? |
| 13:41.23 | napsy | that can't be solved |
| 13:41.26 | abrotman | sussudio: go back to bed :) |
| 13:41.43 | abrotman | napsy: there should be a way ... |
| 13:41.47 | napsy | after that --forget-old-unavailè |
| 13:41.55 | napsy | hmm |
| 13:42.03 | abrotman | nomed^: alias ls=`ls --color` |
| 13:42.15 | abrotman | giupy: depends on the controller |
| 13:42.21 | nomed^ | abrotman: i would customize them ... |
| 13:42.28 | abrotman | them ? |
| 13:42.34 | abrotman | oh . the colors |
| 13:42.34 | nomed^ | abrotman: colors |
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| 13:42.39 | abrotman | nomed^: lsd |
| 13:42.45 | giupy | abrotman okay so is there (exist) a raid controller for cdrom... |
| 13:43.00 | abrotman | giupy: do you want RAID CDROM ? |
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| 13:43.18 | giupy | abrotman dunno :) this is my first experience with raid |
| 13:43.23 | nomed^ | abrotman: i'm editing the file .dircolors .... but i can see what i change just on xterm |
| 13:43.26 | abrotman | giupy: i doubt you want a cd raid |
| 13:43.27 | nomed^ | not on aterm |
| 13:43.36 | giupy | :) |
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| 13:43.59 | giupy | well i go now thanks all |
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| 13:44.06 | pokgai | hahahahah |
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| 13:44.10 | pokgai | he mean he want a raid for HD |
| 13:44.18 | abrotman | nomed^: dunon .. i odn't use aterm .. it may have a different file |
| 13:44.23 | abrotman | pokgai: i'm not sure .. i couldn't tell |
| 13:44.26 | pokgai | i believe 3ware is the best compitable |
| 13:44.36 | pokgai | 3ware is the BEST |
| 13:44.38 | abrotman | pokgai: he was asking about CDdrives |
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| 13:44.42 | pokgai | adaptive is expensive |
| 13:44.44 | paulswm | abrotman: that's one solution I suppose. Just do acid and run a monochrome console? |
| 13:44.45 | pokgai | adaptec |
| 13:44.51 | abrotman | paulswm: yes ... |
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| 13:44.55 | drasko | hoe to downgrade a version of some package, ie. php4? |
| 13:45.05 | abrotman | !snapshot |
| 13:45.05 | dpkg | debian snapshot is, like, http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 13:45.13 | paulswm | abrotman: May be a solution to the nvidia driver thing too |
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| 13:45.35 | abrotman | paulswm: that would be great ... "Want nvidia . ingest strichnyne" or however it's spelled |
| 13:46.26 | troubl1 | how do i know if a desktop install with my install of debian ??? |
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| 13:47.01 | abrotman | troubl1: what is your native language? |
| 13:47.18 | troubl1 | its supposed to be english lol |
| 13:47.25 | abrotman | no freaking way |
| 13:47.30 | troubl1 | way |
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| 13:47.43 | abrotman | troubl1: just wait a second |
| 13:47.46 | troubl1 | k |
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| 13:48.09 | runedude | hi. I know, yes, its kinda lame to join this channel and bug you guys, even though its not related to linux, but do any of you know where the PleXusIRC/Hybrid channel is? :| |
| 13:48.22 | abrotman | !qotd114 is <troubl1> how do i know if a desktop install with my install of debian ??? <abrotman> troubl1: what is your native language? |
| 13:48.22 | abrotman | <troubl1> its supposed to be english lol |
| 13:48.23 | runedude | the /list didnt turn up anything |
| 13:48.23 | dpkg | okay, abrotman |
| 13:48.26 | abrotman | bah .. fucker |
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| 13:48.49 | drasko | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:49.15 | abrotman | !qotd114 |
| 13:49.15 | dpkg | i guess qotd114 is <troubl1> how do i know if a desktop install with my install of debian ??? <abrotman> troubl1: what is your native language? <troubl1> its supposed to be english lol |
| 13:49.16 | Zeffy | cahoot: It's kidda wierd. I did the check as you told me to find out if alsa is running (lsmod and asound). I am looing thourgh the packages installed and ALSA packages are not installed. |
| 13:49.18 | abrotman | yay |
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| 13:50.06 | runedude | root |
| 13:50.07 | runedude | omg |
| 13:50.08 | abrotman | troubl1: what desktop are you looking for ? |
| 13:50.27 | troubl1 | any |
| 13:50.38 | troubl1 | im doing a netinst |
| 13:50.53 | troubl1 | but dont know if it installs a desktop |
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| 13:51.06 | paulswm | runedude: I know, it's scary, but they show up a few a day (IRC roots) |
| 13:51.15 | abrotman | troubl1: the netinst does not .. but gives you a base .. you can then afterwards install a desktop |
| 13:51.23 | runedude | paulswm, sad :/ |
| 13:51.26 | troubl1 | ok |
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| 13:51.32 | abrotman | i blame the french |
| 13:51.38 | troubl1 | so how do i install the desktop then ? |
| 13:51.39 | runedude | And they blame you. |
| 13:51.44 | runedude | troubl1, like kde/gnome? |
| 13:51.48 | paulswm | !blame the french |
| 13:51.49 | runedude | ahh |
| 13:51.52 | runedude | the heat is on =) |
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| 13:52.00 | troubl1 | i have kde on a mandrake disk |
| 13:52.07 | drasko | how to downgrade a version of some package, ie. php4? |
| 13:52.09 | abrotman | troubl1: useless |
| 13:52.12 | troubl1 | ok |
| 13:52.15 | abrotman | troubl1: do you want kde or gnome ? |
| 13:52.19 | troubl1 | i get kde from the site |
| 13:52.30 | abrotman | Deimo1: you cannot speak in here as root .. no matter how hard you try |
| 13:52.33 | paulswm | runedude: prolly should break in to the roots and change their locales to tamil, heh |
| 13:52.33 | abrotman | troubl1: no |
| 13:52.35 | abrotman | no |
| 13:52.40 | runedude | paulswm, lol |
| 13:52.43 | troubl1 | why not ? |
| 13:52.46 | abrotman | troubl1: apt-get install kde x-window-system |
| 13:52.51 | runedude | how did it make "root" not talk in here? |
| 13:52.52 | runedude | OH |
| 13:52.52 | troubl1 | ahhh |
| 13:52.56 | runedude | i see now. :P |
| 13:52.59 | abrotman | !tell troubl1 about fundamentals |
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| 13:53.04 | abrotman | !tell troubl1 about refcard |
| 13:53.08 | troubl1 | i have too do that from root ? |
| 13:53.09 | runedude | bannage of *!*root@* |
| 13:53.10 | runedude | rofl |
| 13:53.30 | abrotman | troubl1: yes |
| 13:53.32 | troubl1 | ty |
| 13:53.36 | troubl1 | brb |
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| 13:54.51 | dhuv | hello all |
| 13:54.57 | paulswm | runedude: there's also the occasional "how do I set up X so I can log in as root" question |
| 13:55.04 | dhuv | i am trying to get a net install cd image of woody with reiserfs |
| 13:55.10 | runedude | O_o |
| 13:55.14 | paulswm | Windows culture, always be the admin |
| 13:55.18 | runedude | login as root is useless |
| 13:55.24 | runedude | I login as "runedude" then su if I need it. |
| 13:55.25 | dhuv | i am looking at the bittorrent links but am not sure if that would be with reiserfs |
| 13:55.29 | abrotman | dhuv: for a workstation ? |
| 13:55.31 | runedude | I never IRC as root, its dangerous |
| 13:55.33 | runedude | :/ |
| 13:55.38 | abrotman | we know |
| 13:55.40 | dhuv | abrotman: yes this is for a wkst |
| 13:55.44 | runedude | hmm |
| 13:55.46 | abrotman | !d-i dhuv |
| 13:55.47 | dpkg | dhuv, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 13:55.48 | runedude | brb gonna install some themes |
| 13:55.50 | dhuv | but i would also like something to test out on a server |
| 13:55.56 | Rambo3 | splz stfu |
| 13:56.04 | PerfDave | dhuv: You'd use ricerfs on a server? |
| 13:56.05 | PerfDave | !ricerfs |
| 13:56.05 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
| 13:56.06 | abrotman | dhuv: as long as the server isn't internet facing .. use sarge |
| 13:56.14 | paulswm | runedude: sure, but the questioners often get cranky if you suggest that. "Don't tell me how to run my PC", etc. |
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| 13:56.31 | dhuv | abrotman: i am testing out on wkst for now, but i will eventually install the same on a server |
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| 13:56.37 | dhuv | thats why i wanted to go with woody |
| 13:56.50 | PerfDave | dhuv: Sarge has more up to date software and an easier install, but no security updates. |
| 13:56.52 | abrotman | dhuv: well .. ok .. go with what you want then |
| 13:57.00 | abrotman | PerfDave: yet |
| 13:57.15 | PerfDave | abrotman: For the foreseeable future. |
| 13:57.24 | abrotman | PerfDave: unless it gets released! |
| 13:57.27 | dhuv | abrotman: i dont know which iso is what i want thats why i am here |
| 13:57.35 | PerfDave | abrotman: Which isn't going to happen in the foreseeable future. |
| 13:57.39 | abrotman | dhuv: CD1 |
| 13:57.45 | dhuv | PerfDave: but the server will not have many requirements, and this wkst will only be for webbrowsing |
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| 13:57.49 | Rambo3 | ftp install |
| 13:57.50 | abrotman | PerfDave: before 2038! |
| 13:58.01 | dhuv | abrotman: does it have reiserfs? and do i have to get the entire cd? not just the net install? |
| 13:58.09 | abrotman | i don't know .. reiserfs is bad |
| 13:58.12 | abrotman | i try not to use it |
| 13:58.18 | runedude | paulswm, yep |
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| 13:58.40 | dhuv | abrotman: bad? you use ext3? or xfs? |
| 13:58.54 | abrotman | FAT32 |
| 13:58.56 | abrotman | only way to go |
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| 13:59.01 | dhuv | haha |
| 13:59.05 | abrotman | ext3 .. mostly |
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| 13:59.18 | Goraxx | hello |
| 13:59.35 | PerfDave | dhuv: It's up to you. Do you want security updates or not? |
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| 13:59.50 | dhuv | PerfDave: yes i will |
| 13:59.59 | dhuv | ofcourse, it will be for a server on the internet |
| 14:00.20 | abrotman | dhuv: not will .. right now .. |
| 14:00.23 | dhuv | so i want to make sure that i stay current with those updates, i just dont want to be on a testing branch thats all |
| 14:00.36 | abrotman | dhuv: by the time you get to installing it on the server .. sarge could be released |
| 14:00.36 | dhuv | abrotman: can you change from testing to stable branch? |
| 14:00.40 | abrotman | no |
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| 14:00.46 | abrotman | you can change from stable to testing |
| 14:01.25 | Goraxx | i have woody cd (last version) and a hard disk Serial ATA ... it is not supported and when i want choose my ext3 partition, installation say that my hard disk is not detected ! What can i do for install debian with SATA Hard disk ? |
| 14:01.51 | dhuv | ok, so you recommend that i install sarge right now on the wkst and you think that in a few weeks or something sarge will be released? |
| 14:01.54 | abrotman | Goraxx: server or workstation? |
| 14:01.57 | dhuv | as stable? |
| 14:01.59 | abrotman | dhuv: we don't know when |
| 14:02.06 | abrotman | dhuv: it could be a few weeks .. or 2009 |
| 14:02.09 | racoontje | Goraxx, woody cd == old. |
| 14:02.11 | Goraxx | workstation |
| 14:02.15 | racoontje | Goraxx, really, really old. |
| 14:02.15 | abrotman | !d-i Goraxx |
| 14:02.16 | dpkg | Goraxx, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 14:02.20 | racoontje | Goraxx, try debian-installer |
| 14:02.21 | paulswm | Goraxx: Best solution is to do a frsh install of sarge(testing), second best solution is to upgrade from woody to sarge |
| 14:02.23 | racoontje | (d-i) |
| 14:02.24 | troubl1 | abrotman i did read the how to's but its like reading german to me |
| 14:02.32 | abrotman | what how to? |
| 14:02.36 | abrotman | what are you talking about ? |
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| 14:02.42 | dhuv | abrotman: ok, sorry i am not so familiar with the conventions, i know you had potato 2.2 than woody 3.0 and same thing will be for sarge? it will eventually become stable? |
| 14:02.44 | bobbyd | hi |
| 14:02.54 | troubl1 | wait |
| 14:02.56 | troubl1 | sorry |
| 14:03.03 | bobbyd | can anyone tell me how to set the master volume when using OSS from the command line? |
| 14:03.05 | alfatau | hi could i force a specific nameserver using dhclient?? |
| 14:03.08 | paulswm | dhuv: You are correct |
| 14:03.18 | dhuv | paulswm: thanks |
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| 14:03.25 | abrotman | bobbyd: aumix |
| 14:03.29 | dhuv | so would it be the same net install image that I would use? |
| 14:03.33 | dhuv | for sarge |
| 14:03.35 | abrotman | dhuv: yes. |
| 14:03.38 | abrotman | oh wait |
| 14:03.41 | paulswm | dhuv: sarge becoming stable is, as they say, coming Real Soon Now |
| 14:03.47 | abrotman | dhuv: what net inst ? |
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| 14:03.59 | dhuv | abrotman: net install cd image |
| 14:04.04 | Goraxx | I have downloaded Debian (first cd) 3.0_r1, it is too old, as woody cd ? |
| 14:04.14 | abrotman | dhuv: the netinst for woody is very different than sarge |
| 14:04.20 | dhuv | paulswm: i understand, i just wnat to make sure that i get an iso that i will be able to use later, same installer |
| 14:04.20 | abrotman | !d-i Goraxx |
| 14:04.21 | dpkg | Goraxx, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 14:04.32 | dhuv | abrotman: ok so for now i will stick with sarge |
| 14:04.33 | paulswm | Goraxx: Yes it is old, do a sarge netinstall, see above |
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| 14:04.42 | Goraxx | okok thx |
| 14:04.45 | abrotman | dhuv: oh .. they may have bug fixes by then .. but yeah .. basically the same |
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| 14:05.13 | paulswm | dhuv: that's a good assumption |
| 14:05.37 | dhuv | now once i have sarge, and it becomes stable, can i just use aptitude to get the updates and switch to a stable branch? |
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| 14:07.14 | ArtVandalae | Hello, I'm considering buying a laptop, and using Debian on it (Instead of paying for XP on it). Are there any laptops out there that are really well supported, or at least the majority of the hardware? |
| 14:07.34 | racoontje | You know what's funny? |
| 14:07.50 | ArtVandalae | No? |
| 14:07.54 | racoontje | 99.98% of people out there don't realize they use open source software every day... |
| 14:08.01 | racoontje | Imagine what the world would look like without BIND |
| 14:08.14 | Ketter | dhuv: your /etc/apt/sources.list, make sure that it's set for sarge, and you will stick to sarge as it becomes stable (read the apt-manual for more information). |
| 14:08.29 | racoontje | Google for it! http://216.239.59.147:80 |
| 14:08.49 | abrotman | ArtVandalae: i like my G40 |
| 14:08.56 | abrotman | ArtVandalae: linux-laptop.net |
| 14:09.05 | Ketter | racoontje: thank god they don't realize it.. |
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| 14:09.14 | ArtVandalae | Cheers abrotman |
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| 14:09.32 | daffy-pkf | lo |
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| 14:09.38 | abrotman | !beer paulswm |
| 14:09.44 | niels_ | hello all anyone know how i can start kde |
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| 14:10.04 | niels_ | my X11 start auto gnome and i like to go to kde |
| 14:10.06 | vipersniper | startx |
| 14:10.22 | niels_ | yeah startx but then jhe go to gnome |
| 14:10.32 | paulswm | abrotman: A bit early in the day, but what the hell, I have the day to myself and Guiness is good for you :) |
| 14:10.42 | vipersniper | apt-get install kdm |
| 14:10.47 | racoontje | Ketter, why's that? |
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| 14:12.06 | Ketter | racoontje: the amount of people that get scared when they hear the words "opensource" and "free" is a little to big for my taste |
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| 14:12.38 | abrotman | paulswm: heh |
| 14:12.41 | sveglio | hello! |
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| 14:13.25 | sveglio | I have a problem, I installed realplayer 10 but the audio does not work.... |
| 14:13.32 | naacky | do the newest Evolution packages (stable, or unstable) have the Evolution Connector built into them now? |
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| 14:13.41 | OpenRealty | hello |
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| 14:14.05 | sveglio | can someone help me? |
| 14:14.15 | naacky | sveglio, do you have audio from other applications? |
| 14:14.47 | sveglio | no, I also uninstalled noatun |
| 14:14.51 | OpenRealty | I have tarred /home and /etc and I want to restore it to another pc to replicate a web server , how can I restore those files with the original permissions |
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| 14:16.50 | naacky | OpenRealty, it should untar with the same permissions. if the UIDs for accounts are identical on both machines, it should pick right up and work |
| 14:17.04 | OpenRealty | oh nice tanks |
| 14:17.07 | OpenRealty | *thanks |
| 14:17.09 | naacky | actually |
| 14:17.14 | naacky | there's a -p flag to preserve permissions |
| 14:17.19 | naacky | you may need to tar the files up with -p |
| 14:17.31 | troubl1 | any know a reason i cant login? the pass and user are correct, i know this coz i have used the same user and pass many times b4 |
| 14:17.48 | trc | OpenRealty, are you a real estate agent? |
| 14:17.52 | OpenRealty | yes |
| 14:17.55 | trc | hmm |
| 14:17.58 | trc | good |
| 14:18.05 | OpenRealty | I am trying to convert our office from windows to debian |
| 14:18.13 | naacky | heh.. i'm looking for one of those folks too ;) |
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| 14:18.24 | trc | how many machines do you guys have? |
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| 14:18.35 | sveglio | sorry, disconnected... |
| 14:18.35 | OpenRealty | but we need to use IE only web sites |
| 14:18.36 | jan_ | 93 |
| 14:18.50 | OpenRealty | 6 workstations a server and agents have laptops |
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| 14:18.58 | LuCkYaN | debian have on apt-get and mail script in php or something like that ? |
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| 14:18.59 | OpenRealty | I have set up phpgroupware |
| 14:19.01 | sveglio | by the way...I can not make the realplayer's audio work.... |
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| 14:19.05 | abrotman | OpenRealty: you'd be surprised .. you've got mozilla/firefox/opera/konq to try |
| 14:19.14 | trc | thats ugly, ie explorer sites are a pain for java and flash |
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| 14:19.42 | OpenRealty | abrotman: I have tried them all and I get the best results from IE from crossover |
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| 14:19.52 | abrotman | OpenRealty: site i can access? |
| 14:20.05 | trc | my mozilla keeps crashing due to flash and java, don't know exactly what... |
| 14:20.18 | OpenRealty | no sorry they are all login required sites |
| 14:20.18 | sveglio | please, can someone help me?? |
| 14:20.25 | abrotman | sveglio: no way! |
| 14:20.48 | Rambo3 | porn site admin |
| 14:21.04 | OpenRealty | with crossovers IE 6 almost every feature on the sites work, except a couple activex controls dont install |
| 14:21.19 | Stilgar | trc: make sure you installed the version of flash which is compiled with the same gcc as the one of your browser |
| 14:21.42 | trc | stilgar: gpl flash? |
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| 14:21.59 | NOiZE | hi all |
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| 14:22.46 | OpenRealty | I used dpkg -l to copy the package list and I thought I could restore it with dpkg --set-selections but it says it takes no arguments |
| 14:22.48 | troubl1 | when installing debian after i have set the root password is there anyway the install could have changed it ?? |
| 14:22.51 | trc | stilgar: i am running sid, updated |
| 14:24.14 | NOiZE | i'm a linux noob and i installed linspire/ i wonder if there is any irc room dedicated to linspire? |
| 14:24.34 | ArtVandalae | NOiZE, maybe #Lindows? |
| 14:24.59 | ArtVandalae | NOiZE, or just try #Linux for general info, and help |
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| 14:25.18 | Stilgar | trc: did you installed flash support manually, from macromedia site, or another way ? |
| 14:25.20 | NOiZE | i'll try thankx |
| 14:25.57 | trc | from debian site, with aptitude |
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| 14:26.32 | trc | gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8), Source: libflash |
| 14:26.32 | trc | Version: 0.4.11-3 |
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| 14:26.46 | joefso | Hi |
| 14:26.50 | joefso | How do I set my DPI? |
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| 14:27.28 | DekanyZ | joefso: on the screen? |
| 14:27.34 | joefso | DekanyZ: yeah |
| 14:27.41 | joefso | or in .Xresources or something |
| 14:27.51 | Stilgar | trc: and you installed libflash-mozplugin package ? |
| 14:27.54 | troubl1 | what user do i use to login to root ? |
| 14:28.05 | Stilgar | troubl1: root |
| 14:28.17 | troubl1 | root and not su- ? |
| 14:28.27 | jetair | yes |
| 14:28.30 | troubl1 | ty |
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| 14:28.48 | cahoot | joefso: X doesn't set it correct? |
| 14:29.01 | joefso | cahoot: I just want another dpi setting for a specific font |
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| 14:29.06 | DekanyZ | joefso: You can add a line in 'monitor' section: DisplaySize x y |
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| 14:29.30 | DekanyZ | And the server will compute it! |
| 14:29.41 | joefso | k |
| 14:29.41 | joefso | brb |
| 14:29.42 | cahoot | joefso: startx -- -dpi xx if you want to force it |
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| 14:30.10 | jono | hi all |
| 14:30.11 | troubl1 | finally its working |
| 14:30.17 | troubl1 | thanx guys |
| 14:30.17 | jono | how do I find the keycode for F10 on a powerbook ? |
| 14:30.38 | cahoot | jono: xev? |
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| 14:31.31 | jono | thanks cahoot |
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| 14:31.42 | krenin | hello |
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| 14:33.20 | ekko__ | hi, can anyone help? could someone help? i need to compile a kernel module, what are the steps i should follow in debian-like kernel compiling? |
| 14:34.04 | lewinsky | make && make install |
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| 14:34.20 | lewinsky | first make and see if any errors occur |
| 14:34.26 | ekko__ | yes |
| 14:34.27 | ekko__ | i did |
| 14:34.29 | infodroid | ekko__: i like http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html#s-kernel-compile |
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| 14:34.34 | abrotman | !tell ekko__ about kp |
| 14:34.46 | OpenRealty | how can I restore a dpkg list I made with dpkg -l |
| 14:34.53 | EvanCarroll | ekko__: i've never done it the 'debian' way, see package 'kernel-package' |
| 14:35.00 | ekko__ | yes |
| 14:35.14 | ekko__ | but i downloaded and installed the kernel-source specific to my kernel flavour |
| 14:35.26 | ekko__ | and when i make the module (which in this case is hostap-source) |
| 14:35.42 | ekko__ | i get no linux/version.h error during compiling |
| 14:35.47 | troubl1 | when i have installed kde do i have to setup debian to boot with kde or will it just boot with kde anyway ? |
| 14:36.01 | ekko__ | i tought the source already had the headers |
| 14:36.32 | lewinsky | hmm... the kernel-headers matches your running kernel-image? |
| 14:36.39 | EvanCarroll | ekko__: You installed the kernel specific to your kernel flavour, but you need to make sure that the kernel is compatable with the module you are trying to biuld my guess is its not. |
| 14:36.49 | ekko__ | yes it is. |
| 14:37.04 | ekko__ | it's supposed to compile on 2.6.x |
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| 14:37.08 | paulswm | ekko__: you prolly have to ln -s the headers to where your module make is expecting to find them |
| 14:37.10 | takatumi | ekko__: installed how? compiled and booted? |
| 14:37.28 | ekko__ | no |
| 14:37.32 | ekko__ | i installed the sources |
| 14:37.55 | EvanCarroll | ekko__: 2.6.X is to broad, a module can compile on 2.6.8 and not 2.6.10, or 2.6.10 but not 2.6.10-rcX or 2.6.10-mmX |
| 14:37.56 | ekko__ | i have them in /usr/src/linux-2.6.(etc) which i symlinked to /usr/src/linux |
| 14:38.07 | OpenRealty | I will pay someone $5 to tell me how to restore dpkg list I made with dpkg -l |
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| 14:38.10 | ekko__ | EvanCarroll, i see |
| 14:38.26 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: hahahah thats awesome, |
| 14:38.34 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: here try this... |
| 14:38.42 | takatumi | !tell OpenRealty -about selections |
| 14:38.44 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: Im guessing you piped you dpkg -l to a text file? |
| 14:38.49 | ekko__ | but i heard people which already could compile their hostap modules in this kernel release |
| 14:38.50 | OpenRealty | yes |
| 14:39.19 | OpenRealty | ¨/etc/apt/packagelist |
| 14:39.21 | takatumi | ekko__: either compile the kernel or install the corresponding kernel-headers. |
| 14:39.30 | ekko__ | hmm |
| 14:39.37 | ekko__ | after installing the source |
| 14:39.43 | ekko__ | i also need to install the headers? |
| 14:39.45 | paulswm | ekko__: you may have to link the linux source to /lib/modules/your-kernel-version/source, I had to do that to compile mdiswrapper I remember |
| 14:39.55 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: Im working on it now, hold on this is slightly tricky |
| 14:40.10 | ekko__ | hmm i see |
| 14:40.18 | OpenRealty | ok my server is down and I need to restore a new one |
| 14:40.19 | ekko__ | i'll try that paulswm |
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| 14:40.46 | takatumi | paulswm: and that worked without compiling the kernel-source? |
| 14:40.57 | paulswm | takatumi: yes |
| 14:41.16 | ekko__ | well but i can't |
| 14:41.20 | ekko__ | what i did |
| 14:41.26 | ekko__ | was install kernel source |
| 14:41.31 | EvanCarroll | alright OpenRealty this is nasty |
| 14:41.32 | EvanCarroll | here you go. |
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| 14:41.44 | ekko__ | copy /boot/config-* to /usr/src/linux/.config |
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| 14:41.52 | ekko__ | and then |
| 14:41.54 | ekko__ | i make |
| 14:41.55 | paulswm | takatumi: Discalimer it's been a while and my geezer memory may be faulty |
| 14:42.05 | paulswm | Disclaimer: I mean |
| 14:42.12 | takatumi | paulswm: :) |
| 14:42.18 | EvanCarroll | dpkg -l | sed -e 's/^ii *//' -e's/ .*//g' | xargs apt-get -yes install |
| 14:42.21 | dpkg | xargs apt-get -yes install |
| 14:42.38 | OpenRealty | wow |
| 14:42.40 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: replace dpkg -l with catting your file |
| 14:42.43 | ekko__ | and then i get errors like no linux/version.h |
| 14:42.43 | OpenRealty | that is tricky |
| 14:42.46 | paulswm | takatumi: I just registered a domain, not put it up yet though: linuxgeezer.net :) |
| 14:42.49 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: yea its nasty but it works |
| 14:42.56 | ekko__ | whasn't that supposed to be in the source? |
| 14:43.05 | takatumi | paulswm: heh |
| 14:43.54 | ekko__ | /usr/src/modules/hostap-source/driver/modules/hostap_pci.c:8:27: linux/version.h: No such file or directory |
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| 14:44.02 | OpenRealty | evancarroll: where do I put the text file int hat command |
| 14:44.15 | ekko__ | include/linux/types.h:14:23: asm/types.h: No such file or directory |
| 14:44.27 | ekko__ | things like this, see? |
| 14:44.28 | EvanCarroll | sed -e 's/^ii *//' -e's/ .*//g' ./DPKG_LIST HERE | xargs apt-get -yes install |
| 14:44.31 | EvanCarroll | or ... |
| 14:44.38 | OpenRealty | ooo ok |
| 14:44.40 | EvanCarroll | cat ./DPKG_LIST_HERE | sed -e 's/^ii *//' -e's/ .*//g' | xargs apt-get -yes install |
| 14:45.01 | EvanCarroll | what ever you prefer, your only running it once so it doesn't matter really |
| 14:45.25 | Jacobo221 | hi, when I copy a script into /etc7network/if-down.d it is not executred when eth0 goes down. any ideas? maybe there's some daemon I'm not running? |
| 14:45.30 | OpenRealty | ok let me try it |
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| 14:46.37 | EvanCarroll | Jacobo221: Are you shutting eth0 down with 'ifdown eth0' |
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| 14:46.57 | Jacobo221 | EvanCarroll: no, I'm unplugging the cable directly |
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| 14:48.10 | EvanCarroll | do you have an /etc/init.d/ifupdown |
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| 14:49.22 | Jacobo221 | EvanCarroll: yes, but doing 'grep if-down /etc/init.d/*' shows nothing |
| 14:49.56 | gilles | gnome has become almost unusable because of refresh problems with gnome... all the icons on my desktop very often disappear at any time because of any action i do, i always have to open nautilus and make a refresh, or run 'nautilus -q' (which makes the names of the applications menu come back too) |
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| 14:50.32 | gilles | is there a way to fix the problem permanently ? |
| 14:50.45 | noloK | some software for monitoring the temperatures of the hardware? |
| 14:50.49 | TinoW | gilles: so windows emulation gains momentum aparently ;) |
| 14:51.18 | troubl1 | i just opened up one of my 250 gig usb hdd's and inside its just a ide hdd with a ide to usb converter lol |
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| 14:51.53 | gilles | TinoW: what do you mean ? |
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| 14:52.35 | c_ray_c | hi, I get "FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument" trying to use fbdev with xfree86, anyone know how to fix this? |
| 14:52.47 | TinoW | gilles: emulation is only accepted if you emulate the errors too ;) |
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| 14:53.43 | OpenRealty | evancarroll: I get error command line option e from -yes not known |
| 14:54.04 | EvanCarroll | hrm |
| 14:54.14 | OpenRealty | cat ./DPKG_LIST_HERE | sed -e 's/^ii *//' -e's/ .*//g' | xargs apt-get -yes install |
| 14:54.22 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: --yes |
| 14:54.25 | EvanCarroll | not -yes |
| 14:54.25 | EvanCarroll | sry |
| 14:54.28 | OpenRealty | is there suppose to be space between sed -e ´s |
| 14:54.29 | EvanCarroll | not thinking |
| 14:54.30 | Ungy_ | crap someone gave me a file where the first character is a space how do I rename it properly? |
| 14:54.39 | OpenRealty | oo |
| 14:54.49 | EvanCarroll | Ungy_: use quotes |
| 14:55.00 | EvanCarroll | Ungy_: mv ' file' ./file |
| 14:55.04 | OpenRealty | ok couldnt find package desired |
| 14:55.29 | EvanCarroll | Ungy_: or you can use inodes either or |
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| 14:56.02 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: then one of many packages your having installed isn't in your repository |
| 14:56.08 | gilles | TinoW: i don't understand what you mean, i don't do emulation :( |
| 14:56.13 | OpenRealty | hmmm |
| 14:56.26 | EvanCarroll | oh OpenRealty is it erroing out with desired? |
| 14:56.27 | OpenRealty | there is no Desired package isntalled |
| 14:56.36 | OpenRealty | yeah with Desired |
| 14:56.39 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: yea thats me being over confident, and not testing |
| 14:56.46 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: let me try this again |
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| 14:57.15 | xarg | hi all |
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| 14:57.36 | Jacobo221 | EvanCarroll: any other clues about my if-down.d problem? |
| 14:57.46 | TinoW | gilles: well, it was justa funny joke. Never mind |
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| 14:58.09 | TinoW | Jacobo221: your if-up/down are in /etc/network/* |
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| 14:58.35 | Laibsch | Howdy. Where should I report bugs when upgrading from woody to sarge? I do not think it should go to "installation-reports" but I am not 100% sure. Anybody got a hint? |
| 14:58.40 | asg | !tell sakroot about away |
| 14:58.45 | Jacobo221 | TinoW: I know, but if-down.d/* scripts aren't run when the cable is unplugged (only when running ifdown eth0) |
| 14:58.47 | cahoot | Jacobo221: maybe stupid - but - the script is executable? |
| 14:58.47 | TinoW | Jacobo221: specifically /etc/network/if-down.d/ and /etc/network/if-up.d/ |
| 14:58.48 | gilles | TinoW: yes, sorry... i'm a little bit aggressive... that's because i'm fed up of this recurrent problem, no way to get rid of it... |
| 14:58.56 | Jacobo221 | cahoot: yep, it is ;) |
| 14:59.00 | EvanCarroll | Jacobo221: no idea, sry |
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| 14:59.11 | Jacobo221 | EvanCarroll: :-( well, thanks anyway :) |
| 14:59.11 | TinoW | Jacobo221: ah, yes. Its up to the interface to detect that - not all do |
| 14:59.13 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: having problems with something one sec =/ |
| 14:59.18 | OpenRealty | ok |
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| 14:59.38 | war- | Can someone please tell me what RX NAPI polling when using my GIGABIT nic? It seems like it caches the files, so if I copy them again, it takes < 1 second, but there is a penality in using this? It seems to slow down my system a lot when I copy 50-100gb of files? |
| 14:59.45 | TinoW | Jacobo221: maybe you find an option you can set in interfaces (man interfaces) |
| 14:59.47 | Jacobo221 | TinoW: but I get a message in console when the cable is unplugged ("eth0 interface is down!") |
| 14:59.59 | takatumi | asg: X-Blackadder: "Baldrick, do you know what irony is?" ..heh |
| 15:00.00 | TinoW | jachebug: yes, but thats the interface driver |
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| 15:00.50 | usn | hi all |
| 15:00.50 | asg | takatumi: :) |
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| 15:01.03 | troubl1 | i have used apt-get to get kde, but now what ? |
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| 15:03.18 | asg | troubl1: setup X (/msg dpkg set up x), run kdm or start kde via 'startx' by putting 'exec startkde' in ~/.xsession |
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| 15:03.35 | solemn03 | is there a way to make rpm work in debian? |
| 15:03.41 | marcel | solemn03, with alien |
| 15:03.49 | EvanCarroll | OpenRealty: dpkg -l | sed -e'1,5d' -e 's/^ii *//' -e's/ .*//g' -e's/-$/*/' | xargs apt-get --yes instsall |
| 15:03.51 | solemn03 | alien always fucks up my rpms |
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| 15:03.56 | TinoW | solemn03: apt-get install alien && alien the_package.rpm |
| 15:03.57 | solemn03 | i need rpm to work |
| 15:04.04 | troubl1 | i am greatfull for tha help, but i dont know what that means |
| 15:04.08 | marcel | solemn03, what rpms do you need |
| 15:04.13 | solemn03 | tons |
| 15:04.20 | TinoW | solemn03: not a good idea |
| 15:04.22 | solemn03 | and when i find new software its rpm |
| 15:04.25 | asg | troubl1: /msg dpkg set up x (type that in your irc client -- our bot will give you information.) |
| 15:04.33 | solemn03 | why is rpm a bad idea? |
| 15:04.39 | marcel | solemn03, cant you download the source packages? and are these software packages not in the debian package system? |
| 15:04.41 | TinoW | solemn03: alien does not fuck up - usually its the rpm which is already fscked up ;) |
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| 15:04.49 | simmerz | solemn03: there are loads of unofficial debs around. |
| 15:04.58 | asg | solemn03: then find the source code the rpm was built from and either create a deb from it or compile and install it in /usr/local |
| 15:05.01 | njan | solemn03, rpm + debian == !good |
| 15:05.02 | solemn03 | is there a way to just enable rpm? |
| 15:05.07 | njan | solemn03, install redhat. |
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| 15:05.21 | solemn03 | redhats not supported anymore <_< |
| 15:05.25 | njan | you're way better off looking for a .deb, solemn03 |
| 15:05.29 | simmerz | solemn03: example of rpm not available as a deb? |
| 15:05.37 | solemn03 | i dont know |
| 15:05.37 | simmerz | solemn03: so install FC3 |
| 15:05.39 | solemn03 | apt-get |
| 15:05.46 | solemn03 | couldnot find mplayer |
| 15:05.50 | solemn03 | couldnot find mplayer-gui |
| 15:05.53 | asg | solemn03: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 15:06.01 | simmerz | i've got mplayer through debs |
| 15:06.04 | simmerz | search google. |
| 15:06.16 | golan__ | better vlc solemn03 |
| 15:06.16 | solemn03 | is limewire in .deb? |
| 15:06.31 | solemn03 | thier site just has rpm and bin |
| 15:06.32 | simmerz | solemn: rather use mldonkey than limewire |
| 15:06.38 | solemn03 | same with realplayer |
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| 15:07.07 | ArtVandalae | solemn03, rather use what than realplayer? |
| 15:07.13 | solemn03 | ? |
| 15:07.23 | ArtVandalae | "same with realplayer"? |
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| 15:07.30 | solemn03 | i havnt found anything else that plays rm files |
| 15:07.37 | simmerz | so i installed the .bin of realplayer |
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| 15:07.45 | solemn03 | as in reals site only has bin and rpm |
| 15:07.46 | ArtVandalae | Oh okay... what about that Helix player? |
| 15:07.53 | solemn03 | k |
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| 15:08.03 | asg | solemn03: then get the .bin and install it in /usr/local |
| 15:08.21 | simmerz | then you copy the plugin files to the mozilla plugin folder |
| 15:08.21 | ArtVandalae | solemn03, yeah helixplayer /msg dpkg helixplayer |
| 15:08.28 | Ungy_ | hahaha I can;t work without rpm or .deb files OMG |
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| 15:08.30 | Shimonn | hi, i switch to sarge but uw-imap says "NO LOGIN failed". (the password is correct) |
| 15:09.04 | Ungy_ | what mechanisms you using to validate? |
| 15:09.11 | simmerz | Shimonn: probably because LOGIN is disabled unless you use TLS |
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| 15:09.20 | PCPN | good morning, everyone. I have having a bit of a problem with my server that I can not find an answer to. it seems that every night/early morning (I'm not sure what time) the machine will reset the IP address of the nic form the staticly assigned address to the one that was given via DHCP during installation...Any sggestions on wehre to look for this? I have used debconf to reset it, but still ahve the same problems... |
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| 15:09.24 | Shimonn | how to enable it ? |
| 15:09.44 | simmerz | log in using TLS |
| 15:09.45 | asg | PCPN: stop dhclient or pump from running |
| 15:09.52 | simmerz | its a security measure |
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| 15:09.53 | Jacobo221 | doesn't debain's xhost allow "xhost +USERname" ? |
| 15:09.57 | PCPN | OK, I will look fro them, thanks...BRB |
| 15:10.06 | simmerz | Shimonn: google is your friend |
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| 15:10.31 | Shimonn | is TSL like SSL ? |
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| 15:10.44 | simmerz | Shimonn: a little |
| 15:10.46 | Shimonn | (i've an SSL checkbox in Thunderbird ...) |
| 15:10.50 | Ungy_ | PCPN maybe your system is restarting the networking look in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:10.57 | simmerz | but they are different |
| 15:11.02 | troubl1 | i still need some help, i used apt-get install kde x-window-system to get kde and now i have it but have'nt got a clue what to do now |
| 15:11.34 | infodroid | troubl1: why don't you get yourself a good manual and start reading it |
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| 15:11.36 | asg | troubl1: did you configure X yet? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 15:11.36 | Shimonn | it seems Thunderbird isn't TSL-enabled ... |
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| 15:11.47 | infodroid | troubl1: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html |
| 15:11.57 | Ungy_ | Thunderbird can too use TLS I use it |
| 15:11.59 | troubl1 | this is my fist time using any linux |
| 15:12.04 | PCPN | Ungy, I looked there only to see that eth0 is set statically... |
| 15:12.26 | infodroid | troubl1: did you use the debian-installer? |
| 15:12.36 | Shimonn | how to tell Thunderbird to use TSL with imap ? |
| 15:12.37 | troubl1 | i used netinst |
| 15:12.49 | Ungy_ | imap pop doesn;t matter |
| 15:13.06 | Shimonn | i just have a checkbox for SSL |
| 15:13.10 | Ungy_ | go to account settings select outgoing server(smtp) |
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| 15:13.23 | Ungy_ | use secure connection radio button select TLS |
| 15:13.39 | Shimonn | no, 'ive no problem with smtp, i want to login with imap |
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| 15:13.54 | Ungy_ | select use secure connection(SSL) |
| 15:14.08 | Ungy_ | unser server settings |
| 15:14.12 | Shimonn | and uw-imap will let me in ? |
| 15:14.21 | Ungy_ | tias |
| 15:14.23 | solemn03 | the java bin needs rpm <_< |
| 15:14.38 | PCPN | Ungy_: how to find where dhclient is started on boot? |
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| 15:14.47 | PCPN | ls -al |
| 15:14.48 | Shimonn | can't i re-enable login without TSL or SLL ? |
| 15:14.51 | PCPN | ooppps |
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| 15:15.03 | Shimonn | s/SLL/SSL |
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| 15:15.24 | solemn03 | how can i install java? |
| 15:15.25 | Ungy_ | PCPN not sure |
| 15:15.49 | PCPN | OK... |
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| 15:16.36 | noloK | how i can set my matrix printer to print some page in the browser? |
| 15:16.38 | PCPN | does anyone know what would put a nic in and out of promiscuous mode at the same time, every day? |
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| 15:17.27 | infodroid | !tell solemn03 about install java |
| 15:17.56 | solemn03 | INFINITY:/home/solemnwarning# apt-get install java |
| 15:17.56 | solemn03 | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 15:17.56 | solemn03 | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 15:17.56 | solemn03 | E: Couldn't find package java |
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| 15:18.10 | solemn03 | <_< |
| 15:18.12 | marcel | solemn03, please |
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| 15:18.34 | solemn03 | ? |
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| 15:18.58 | infodroid | solemn03: read the bloody topic |
| 15:19.12 | marcel | solemn03, apt-get install java-package |
| 15:19.20 | solemn03 | k |
| 15:19.34 | marcel | solemn03, then download the latest bin java sdk from sun |
| 15:19.39 | marcel | solemn03, make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin |
| 15:19.44 | solemn03 | E: Couldn't find package java-package |
| 15:19.56 | marcel | solemn03, apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5debian |
| 15:20.11 | marcel | solemn03, read this page: http://wiki.linux.org.hk/index.php/How_to_install_Java_on_Debian |
| 15:20.28 | abrotman | !tell solemn03 about java |
| 15:20.38 | abrotman | marcel: that package is only in sid |
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| 15:21.03 | solemn03 | most of the characters on the page are just a sqare <_< |
| 15:21.18 | marcel | solemn03, yes, but the things you need are readable |
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| 15:21.37 | marcel | solemn03, do you use sarge or sid? |
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| 15:22.04 | marcel | abrotman, is for sarge too |
| 15:22.09 | marcel | abrotman, http://wiki.linux.org.hk/index.php/How_to_install_Java_on_Debian |
| 15:22.09 | abrotman | !info java-package sarge |
| 15:22.11 | dpkg | java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 0.19 (sarge), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 252 kB |
| 15:22.16 | abrotman | oh .. it finally made it in .. woohoo |
| 15:22.17 | ik- | hi ppl, how to use /etc/passwd in the pptpd-options ? |
| 15:22.24 | abrotman | marcel: last i had looked it wasn't in sarge yet |
| 15:22.37 | asg | !wb abrotman |
| 15:22.38 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! abrotman has returned! |
| 15:22.42 | Jacobo221 | is there a command to know which user is running the X server on a given display? |
| 15:22.42 | abrotman | !beer asg |
| 15:22.47 | asg | abrotman: danke |
| 15:22.52 | BucWheat | whenever you "make" a program is there a log file associated with the make process that logs errors and such ? |
| 15:22.57 | marcel | ass kissin time |
| 15:23.07 | asg | Jacobo221: ps aux | grep X | grep <tty> |
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| 15:24.19 | ik- | is it posibble to use /etc/passwd to authenticate pptp connection ? |
| 15:24.31 | BucWheat | bah! |
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| 15:24.47 | troubl1 | ok i read the reference page and it makes as much sence as u guys do, so could some one tell me in plain english how to install kde on debian please ? |
| 15:24.59 | marcel | troubl1, apt-get install kde |
| 15:25.00 | asg | BucWheat: there should be a config.log or configure.log in the src directory |
| 15:25.02 | jiki | normally where is most of the lib files stored, is it /usr/local/lib ? |
| 15:25.04 | Jacobo221 | asg: but I mean somwthing like "xcommand -display :0" (or as simple as that) |
| 15:25.05 | troubl1 | done that |
| 15:25.15 | marcel | Tronic, so? |
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| 15:25.20 | troubl1 | i have kde but dont know how to install it |
| 15:25.33 | infodroid | troubl1: you can either login on the console, or have a graphical login, what do you want? |
| 15:25.39 | marcel | troubl1, if you have it, you just need to start it |
| 15:25.47 | troubl1 | oh |
| 15:25.52 | solemn03 | startx |
| 15:25.59 | asg | Jacobo221: not as far as I know but you could always create a script and stick it in /usr/local/bin (then you'd have the program) |
| 15:25.59 | troubl1 | how ? |
| 15:25.59 | marcel | startkde |
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| 15:26.16 | infodroid | troubl1: graphical login or command line login |
| 15:26.16 | solemn03 | and change to runlevel 5 in /etc/inittab |
| 15:26.30 | abrotman | troubl1: apt-get install kde kdm x-window-system |
| 15:26.36 | abrotman | solemn03: no .. shut up |
| 15:26.40 | abrotman | don't touch inittab |
| 15:26.40 | solemn03 | <_< |
| 15:26.41 | asg | solemn03: debian doesn't do that |
| 15:26.54 | troubl1 | ahh |
| 15:26.56 | asg | solemn03: 2,3,4,5 are all the same and left up to the administrator to define as needed |
| 15:26.56 | abrotman | never ever unless you're smarter than ralph .. touch that file |
| 15:27.00 | solemn03 | :rolleyes: deb is too differant |
| 15:27.11 | Jacobo221 | asg: yem but the script you propose queries the tty initially used, not the display. I need to know which user is in which display |
| 15:27.14 | marcel | ralph malph? |
| 15:27.28 | abrotman | solemn03: sorry .. i didn't mena to sound rude .. but unless you know that oyu need to .. don't touch that file |
| 15:27.38 | BucWheat | asg k |
| 15:27.42 | solemn03 | well i touched it and it fixed it |
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| 15:27.45 | solemn03 | :P |
| 15:27.45 | marin_g_m | http://www.VigRX.com/clicks/clickthrough.html?a=secretk |
| 15:27.54 | ali7288 | hehehee |
| 15:28.02 | solemn03 | lol |
| 15:28.15 | abrotman | solemn03: not in debian |
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| 15:28.17 | troubl1 | infodroid: command |
| 15:28.27 | marcel | fucking spammers |
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| 15:28.47 | abrotman | wait .. is secretk like special k ? |
| 15:28.58 | marcel | it actually works |
| 15:29.02 | solemn03 | why isnt limewire in apt-get?? |
| 15:29.06 | abrotman | !limewire |
| 15:29.06 | dpkg | hmm... limewire is the coolest graphical gnutella client for both windows and linux. see http://www.limewire.com! GPL! apt-get install limewire. |
| 15:29.09 | infodroid | troubl1: good, then you don't need xdm, gdm, or kdm. login to the console as usual and run "startx". everything should work straight away. if it doesn't, then you need to be specific about the problem. |
| 15:29.14 | abrotman | !info limewire sarge |
| 15:29.15 | dpkg | limewire: (a Java based gnutella servent), section contrib/net, is optional. Version: 3.4.5-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 7605 kB, Installed size: 20896 kB |
| 15:29.16 | asg | info limewire sid |
| 15:29.25 | troubl1 | ok |
| 15:29.27 | asg | solemn03: add contrib to your sources |
| 15:29.29 | troubl1 | i brb |
| 15:29.31 | infodroid | troubl1: good luck |
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| 15:30.10 | noloK | what i can do with .ppd package? |
| 15:30.13 | troubl1 | say no command found |
| 15:30.15 | PCPN | how to tell what 'version ' of debian a particula system is? |
| 15:30.15 | troubl1 | :( |
| 15:30.22 | abrotman | troubl1: which command ? |
| 15:30.29 | asg | PCPN: /etc/debian_version |
| 15:30.30 | abrotman | PCPN: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 15:30.39 | troubl1 | startx |
| 15:30.40 | asg | PCPN: also, what version of libc6 you are running |
| 15:30.50 | ali7288 | when i play unreal tournament the sound lags... does anyone have this problem and know how to fix it? |
| 15:30.50 | marcel | jezus |
| 15:30.52 | abrotman | troubl1: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 15:30.58 | abrotman | bah .. just get kdm |
| 15:31.08 | troubl1 | i have dl kde |
| 15:31.10 | abrotman | err .. |
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| 15:31.18 | abrotman | troubl1: watch ... you want a gui login manager? |
| 15:31.18 | troubl1 | but dont know how to start it |
| 15:31.23 | troubl1 | yes |
| 15:31.27 | abrotman | troubl1: now type this |
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| 15:31.35 | troubl1 | i want desktop like kde |
| 15:31.35 | abrotman | troubl1: apt-get install kde kdm x-window-system-core |
| 15:31.38 | BucWheat | asg i see that file but it says nothing about the make process and why it failed |
| 15:31.38 | supers | Is there a list of ddos attacked hosts, where you can report ddos? |
| 15:31.41 | PCPN | asg it cam back 3.1 is that sid or sarge? stable or test? |
| 15:31.48 | marcel | lol |
| 15:31.52 | infodroid | troubl1: everything we are saying is in here already http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-x |
| 15:31.54 | troubl1 | ok i try that |
| 15:31.54 | asg | PCPN: it's sid or sarge right now. dpkg -l libc6 |
| 15:32.05 | asg | PCPN: paste what version of libc6 is installed |
| 15:32.08 | troubl1 | dude i read that |
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| 15:32.22 | marcel | read is different from understanding |
| 15:32.25 | abrotman | supers: your ISP |
| 15:32.30 | solemn03 | what was the command to setup sorces for apt-get? |
| 15:32.38 | drac | solemn03: apt-setup |
| 15:32.41 | solemn03 | k |
| 15:32.41 | abrotman | asg: i think they are the same currently |
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| 15:32.50 | asg | PCPN: also, checking your /etc/apt/sources.list will tell you |
| 15:32.56 | asg | abrotman: yeah, just realized that |
| 15:33.00 | PCPN | asg, thanks...and version is: 2.3.2.ds1-20 |
| 15:33.04 | abrotman | !beer asg |
| 15:33.05 | infodroid | solemn03: $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:33.27 | asg | BucWheat: did make return any error indicating why it failed? |
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| 15:33.59 | abrotman | infodroid: he could just `grep deb /etc/apt/sources.list` |
| 15:34.18 | abrotman | or grep main i guess |
| 15:34.35 | zooy0rk | yuengling!!@# |
| 15:34.42 | asg | PCPN: ah, many thanks |
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| 15:34.46 | troubl1 | couldnt find package xwindow-system-core |
| 15:34.56 | marcel | lol |
| 15:34.56 | infodroid | abrotman: or man sources.list |
| 15:35.02 | asg | troubl1: x-window-system-core |
| 15:35.07 | troubl1 | ahhh |
| 15:35.08 | marcel | troubl1, apt-get install x-window-system |
| 15:35.15 | troubl1 | brb |
| 15:35.16 | PCPN | asg: became rather addicted to that particular brand o Crystl adn hefe while stationed in Germany |
| 15:35.38 | asg | PCPN: I'd very much like that opportunity since beer selection here is rather dull. |
| 15:35.43 | abrotman | asg: reading is hard ... let's go drinking! |
| 15:35.51 | PCPN | asg: and where might you be? |
| 15:35.52 | asg | abrotman: hehe |
| 15:35.56 | asg | PCPN: North Carolina |
| 15:36.02 | supers | abrotman: why would i report ddos attack to my ISP, i got my own filtering |
| 15:36.12 | PCPN | asg: got you beat, North Central Oklahoma |
| 15:36.13 | abrotman | asg: why do you have such poor choices and mine are at least decent |
| 15:36.14 | troubl1 | it doing it :) |
| 15:36.15 | abrotman | supers: you pay them |
| 15:36.21 | asg | PCPN: hehe |
| 15:36.22 | abrotman | asg: oh .. rednecks! |
| 15:36.30 | asg | abrotman: NASCAR nation |
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| 15:36.35 | abrotman | yay .. |
| 15:36.41 | troubl1 | woo hoo |
| 15:36.53 | troubl1 | :-D |
| 15:36.54 | asg | abrotman: I'm rather partial to Sam Smith's but it's $4 a bottle. |
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| 15:37.19 | asg | abrotman: does it have a 'fear the penguin' sticker on it like mine does? |
| 15:37.35 | C5Hardtop | i installed firefox browser from the website and don't know how to launch it. has anyone done this before that could tell me how to launch it? |
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| 15:37.58 | asg | C5Hardtop: /path/to/where/you/installed/it/bin/mozilla-firefox (probably) |
| 15:38.05 | abrotman | asg: no .. it would have "The Intimidator - 3" and not acutally on the bumper .. because that fell off .. and of course it's gotta be a 1986 toyota accord :) |
| 15:38.11 | paulswm | Heh, 'fear the pengiun', *I want one* |
| 15:38.16 | C5Hardtop | thanks asg |
| 15:38.18 | asg | abrotman: ah, of course |
| 15:38.20 | marcel | which mozilla-firefox |
| 15:38.21 | PCPN | asg: I once read a sign over a urinal in a bar in Germany. went soemthign along the lines of piss in a jug, and ship to St. Louis. Anheiser-Busch wasbuying it to recycle into BudWeiser |
| 15:38.34 | asg | PCPN: oh, that's good. |
| 15:38.45 | abrotman | C5Hardtop: apt-get install mozilla-firefox didn't work ? |
| 15:39.01 | paulswm | asg, abrotman , best bumper sticker I've seen is one which read "Of course I'm drunk, I'm no stunt driver" |
| 15:39.08 | C5Hardtop | i didn't try it |
| 15:39.09 | asg | paulswm: hehe |
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| 15:39.23 | C5Hardtop | there is no bin folder, i'm going to try apt-get |
| 15:39.24 | marcel | lol |
| 15:39.24 | abrotman | C5Hardtop: right .. that'd be too easy |
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| 15:39.36 | abrotman | !rootsmite C5Hardtop |
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| 15:39.59 | asg | abrotman: he could install mozilla-firefox from the website to his homedir without being root |
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| 15:40.21 | abrotman | asg: wanna make bets he didn't ? |
| 15:40.33 | PCPN | paulswm: bumper stickin in Silicon Valley Stahllman and Torvalds for election in 2004. two men whoe understand what Free and Freedom means! |
| 15:40.34 | asg | abrotman: no :) |
| 15:40.37 | Rambo3 | my hd is spinning like crazy when i am not doint anything ... |
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| 15:40.48 | BucWheat | asg no not really. it just gives me a bunch of Error 1 and Error 2 in /usr/src/modules/comedi |
| 15:40.53 | abrotman | Rambo3: about 5400rpm ? |
| 15:40.59 | zeffy | I have upgraded my kernel to 2.6.8, I am trying to use ALSA but while compiling the driver 1.0.8 I am getting error - /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-k7/source: No such file or directory. Any ideas? |
| 15:41.01 | asg | PCPN: 667, neighbor of the Beast <-- on a friend's car |
| 15:41.09 | PCPN | hehahah |
| 15:41.16 | BucWheat | asg and some other errors but the screen scrolls so fast i can't read them and i can only scroll up so far :( |
| 15:41.20 | asg | BucWheat: did you use './configure' to set things up before running make? |
| 15:41.31 | directhex | zeffy, what's wrong with the alsa modules included in 2.6? |
| 15:41.37 | abrotman | asg: seen on a boat over the pisser .. "If you sprinkle when you tinkle .. Be neat and wipe the seat" |
| 15:41.49 | BucWheat | asg no. but when i do run ./configure in that directory it works fine |
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| 15:42.20 | BucWheat | asg and when i run make in that directory it fails also |
| 15:42.20 | C5Hardtop | apt-get install mozzilla-firefox worked great, thanks |
| 15:42.23 | asg | BucWheat: it might not have found all it needs. does the README indicate any required libraries? if so, install the lib -dev package for those libraries. |
| 15:42.29 | abrotman | !tell C5Hardtop about search |
| 15:42.37 | zeffy | directhex: I have set KDE to not automaticly detect the sound system, I choosed manually ALSA and it doesn't work :( |
| 15:42.45 | abrotman | zeffy: #debian-kde |
| 15:42.49 | BucWheat | asg let me look through the INSTALL again |
| 15:43.11 | C5Hardtop | thanks abrotman |
| 15:43.13 | asg | BucWheat: i.e., if it requires openssl, you need libssl-dev as well as the openssl package, and so on. |
| 15:43.17 | zeffy | abrotman: It's not a problem in KDE... |
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| 15:43.36 | abrotman | oh ok .. |
| 15:43.40 | abrotman | zeffy: why not? |
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| 15:43.57 | infodroid | zeffy: /msg dpkg alsa |
| 15:43.57 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 15:43.57 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
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| 15:44.38 | C5Hardtop | what is stupid about running xchat as root? what can happen? |
| 15:44.39 | dds | I'm looking for some free software program that provides internet telephony nearly as good as skype, i.e. seamless firewall and NAT traversal. Can anyone suggest anything? |
| 15:44.51 | abrotman | asterix ? |
| 15:44.57 | asg | !asterix |
| 15:44.58 | dpkg | well, asterix is a fearless fighter of the Roman tyranny |
| 15:45.00 | abrotman | !tell C5Hardtop about irc as root |
| 15:45.01 | asg | hehe |
| 15:45.09 | asg | !asterisk |
| 15:45.09 | dpkg | hmm... asterisk is a VoIP phone system for linux. Very powerful very cool |
| 15:45.14 | asg | dds: ^^^ |
| 15:45.23 | abrotman | asg: oh yeah .. i can't spell :) |
| 15:45.24 | dds | thank you |
| 15:45.45 | abrotman | dds: i think there is a #asterisk ? |
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| 15:46.17 | C5Hardtop | ok, so its stupid but i'm asking why? is it in case i accept a malacious script or something? |
| 15:46.20 | BucWheat | asg you can apt-get install comedi-source and look at the INSTALL file and see what I have to work with. I have meet all of the requirements and it still doesn't work |
| 15:46.25 | abrotman | !tell C5Hardtop about root |
| 15:46.40 | dds | looking at the package description, it doesn't exactly seem like what I'm thinking of. Have either of you used asterisk? |
| 15:46.41 | abrotman | C5Hardtop: you sohuld only be root when you absolutely have to be |
| 15:46.45 | abrotman | nope |
| 15:46.52 | abrotman | dds: i think it is what you asked for? |
| 15:47.01 | C5Hardtop | got it, thanks |
| 15:47.20 | abrotman | !asterisk is also #asterisk-stable |
| 15:47.23 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 15:47.24 | abrotman | i think |
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| 15:47.40 | abrotman | dds: you don't want a whole server .. just a client? |
| 15:47.47 | Rambo3 | how do i know if i have sarge or woody debian? |
| 15:48.27 | abrotman | Rambo3: cat /etc/debian_version .. or check your sources |
| 15:48.27 | BucWheat | where might i find "std error" ? |
| 15:48.37 | apnea_ | Rambo3: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 15:48.40 | PerfDave | BucWheat: At the STD clinic? |
| 15:48.42 | dds | asbrotman, I'm installing it now, but the description claims it is a free PBX for VoIP, but all VoIP protocols it lists have the same NAT/firewall problems I'm familiar with. |
| 15:48.44 | BucWheat | this guy in #gcc told me make errors are echoed to std error so grab them |
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| 15:49.03 | BucWheat | PerfDave oh hush, no time for jokes i'm starting to get frustrated :( |
| 15:49.06 | apnea_ | BucWheat: 2> |
| 15:49.15 | abrotman | dds: my knowledge of voip .. is that i don't have to pay long distance and that asterisk exists :) |
| 15:49.35 | BucWheat | PerfDave this is ridiculous that comedi-source does not work |
| 15:49.40 | troubl1 | wow asterisk exists |
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| 15:49.50 | abrotman | yes .. right above the 8 |
| 15:50.00 | dds | abrotman, are you behind a NAT? |
| 15:50.01 | troubl1 | oh yeah lol |
| 15:50.14 | abrotman | dds: yes ... |
| 15:50.21 | abrotman | dds: i didn't say i use it |
| 15:50.27 | dds | abrotman, heh |
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| 15:50.38 | frankster | Hi, iif you have made changes to a source package that you want to send to a developer what diff options would you use? (assuming you have 2 directories with the clean and altered versions of the package)? |
| 15:50.40 | abrotman | dds: i'd like my boss to let me use it .. but i'm not sure he would |
| 15:50.48 | abrotman | dds: i'm not aware of the nat problems |
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| 15:51.00 | dds | I and the people I want to speak to are all behind NATs with no control over routers, servers, and no place on the net to setup a gateway... |
| 15:51.02 | Rambo3 | cat /etc/debian_version 3.1 what does it mean |
| 15:51.10 | apnea_ | frankster: info diff explains this |
| 15:51.13 | abrotman | Rambo3: check your sources.list |
| 15:51.17 | PerfDave | Rambo3: It means you're running Sarge or Sid (or possibly Knoppix) |
| 15:51.24 | abrotman | dds: gnome-meeting ? |
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| 15:51.29 | flammifer | hullo ! Any chances of seeing an Internet Explorer package for debian anytime soon ? |
| 15:51.35 | dds | well, in general, if you have two machines on the internet both behind NATs, it's pretty tough to establish connections to each other. Just think about it for a sec. |
| 15:51.44 | frankster | apnea yes I realise there is the manual. but do people prefer e.g. diff -u? |
| 15:51.47 | abrotman | dds: you mean .. like normal internet stuff? |
| 15:52.02 | abrotman | flammifer: think about that |
| 15:52.05 | apnea_ | frankster: yes use -u |
| 15:52.13 | Rambo3 | no it s debian , i edited sources list my self |
| 15:52.15 | acj | trollifer? |
| 15:52.24 | frankster | apnea: anything else? or just that |
| 15:52.25 | abrotman | acj: we'll see |
| 15:52.31 | dds | yeah. Skype gets around all of that by using a P2P back-end instead of standard VoIP, so nodes in the network function as automatic gateways and your datapackets are routed through that. |
| 15:52.33 | apnea_ | frankster: the manual explains the rest |
| 15:52.44 | flammifer | acj, well sorta.I'm temporarly annoyed enough at firefox and mozilla to wish there was :-P |
| 15:52.53 | abrotman | flammifer: google for the guide |
| 15:52.56 | cahoot | abrotman: you mean the IE deb is all vaporware? |
| 15:53.00 | apnea_ | frankster: don't think that I know the answer and don't tell you :) |
| 15:53.05 | abrotman | flammifer: there's a very complete set of instructions to install IE on wine |
| 15:53.26 | dds | standard VoIP, SIP, etc, all work on top of TCP and UDP, and there's no way I can just open up a TCP or UDP socket to someone sitting behind a NAT without setting something up on our respective firewalls, which is out of the question. |
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| 15:53.29 | frankster | apnea: I am not asking how to use diff, just want ot know how people usually like patches submitted |
| 15:53.30 | abrotman | cahoot: sadly .. i hope so |
| 15:53.33 | dds | (and shouldn't be necessary anyway) |
| 15:53.42 | abrotman | dds: gnome-meeting ? |
| 15:53.50 | acj | flammifer: how about galeon or w3m (c: |
| 15:54.00 | apnea_ | frankster: a section on info pages explains true uses of diff |
| 15:54.06 | flammifer | hm. never used wine. Hey, maybe Konqueror will do the job :) |
| 15:54.12 | frankster | apnea: thank you |
| 15:54.22 | abrotman | flammifer: good .. go try it .. or opera .. or find another |
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| 15:54.47 | dds | abrotman, gnome-meeting completely fails at what I'm talking about. |
| 15:55.00 | abrotman | dds: it was just a suggestion .. |
| 15:55.13 | dds | don't think I was offended ;) |
| 15:55.16 | abrotman | dds: it almost sounds like you need a common gateway server of some sort |
| 15:55.23 | flammifer | I haven't found opera in the repository ... |
| 15:55.24 | paulswm | flammifer: curious, what's the issue? A page not displaying? |
| 15:55.43 | abrotman | flammifer: and you won't .. but opera.com provides debs |
| 15:56.08 | apnea_ | konqueror is teh browser |
| 15:56.15 | flammifer | er, no, spontaneously closing all windows, quite often. it tends to get annoying |
| 15:56.18 | dds | abrotman, well, a gateway server would _work_, but what I came here asking for is if there is any free software project aiming to accomplish something like skype, with a P2P-based infrastructure eliminating the need for gateways that would ruin the quality of the call |
| 15:56.33 | dds | it's a very hard google search ;) |
| 15:56.51 | abrotman | dds: type all that in :) |
| 15:57.08 | apnea_ | dds: I think lwn had an article about this and the answer is no (nearest thing is asteriks) |
| 15:57.09 | dds | tried.. I either get zero hits or a million hits about skype |
| 15:57.10 | abrotman | dds: voice over jabber .. (dunno if jabber does voice) |
| 15:57.48 | abrotman | dds: #p2p-hackers ? |
| 15:57.49 | dds | jabber doesn't do voice yet. That's something I thought would be great in Jabber from a long time ago, but it would be horrendously slow. |
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| 15:58.43 | sven | where do i go to figure out ./configure flags for a given package? |
| 15:58.58 | sven | i looked through the .deb for the binary i386 package, but couldn't find it |
| 15:58.59 | dds | Encoding it even as speex or low-quality ogg, base64 encoding it, and sticking it in an XML stream all together as one big file transfer for each bit of audio between pauses seems almost completely infeasible, given the design of Jabber. |
| 15:59.01 | apnea_ | ./configure --help |
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| 15:59.08 | dds | sven, it's generally not included |
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| 15:59.17 | abrotman | dds: and god damn ugly :) |
| 15:59.19 | einsteinmg | RAMDISK: incomplete write (-28 != 32768) 4194304 |
| 15:59.21 | sven | dds: so sometimes it's not possible to find out? |
| 15:59.32 | hikaru79 | tell hikaru79 about nvidia-one-liner |
| 15:59.38 | hikaru79 | Oh drat =/ |
| 15:59.41 | abrotman | sven: should be in the ./configure --help |
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| 15:59.43 | hikaru79 | Doesn't work that way... |
| 15:59.46 | einsteinmg | what's this? our ramdisk is 4.5MB, too big? |
| 15:59.51 | troubl1 | it works |
| 15:59.58 | sven | abrotman: yes, but for the binary packages.. i'd like to know how it was compiled |
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| 16:00.14 | abrotman | sven: oh ... i htink you have to get the source package .. and look at the build rules |
| 16:00.14 | dds | sven, apt-get source and look at the package building stuff... :/ |
| 16:00.20 | sven | ah, thanks |
| 16:00.39 | supers | Is there a list of ddos attacked hosts, where you can report ddos? |
| 16:00.40 | apnea_ | sven: you're looking for the control file I suppose |
| 16:00.43 | drasko | help with apache needed - I find this in php4.log PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so' - /usr/lib/$ |
| 16:00.45 | sven | apnea_: very possible |
| 16:00.49 | dds | abrotman, I'm asking on #p2p-hackers, but there is also the whole problem that I need a free software solution. The group of us do not use non-free software. |
| 16:00.53 | abrotman | supers: your isp! |
| 16:01.01 | abrotman | supers: your upstream is who you would tell |
| 16:01.06 | abrotman | or the fbi i suppose |
| 16:01.07 | apnea_ | sven: #debian-devel can help |
| 16:01.27 | sven | thanks |
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| 16:01.32 | supers | abrotman: if i report it only to my ISP, the attacker can still attack other hosts |
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| 16:01.35 | apnea_ | supers: tell to the goodfellas |
| 16:01.39 | panda | how to set charset in irssi? |
| 16:01.45 | abrotman | supers: unless your ISP contacts thier ISP and shuts them down |
| 16:01.54 | abrotman | supers: they know who to contact .. you apparently do not |
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| 16:02.17 | PerfDave | dds: Just use Gnomemeeting? |
| 16:02.25 | dds | yeah, asterisk sure looks nice, for a business or other centralized infrastructure looking to replace an internal expensive pots system with voip, but is in a completely different market than skype. |
| 16:02.27 | P8ntKid | can anybody help me with somethin |
| 16:02.38 | abrotman | !tell P8ntKid about ask |
| 16:02.41 | dds | PerfDave, gnome-meeting can't work with both parties behind NATs |
| 16:02.46 | PerfDave | dds: Yes it can. |
| 16:02.54 | P8ntKid | i need to install debian on my server, but idk waht to download and where to get it. |
| 16:02.56 | abrotman | PerfDave: i think he doesn't want a hole in the firewall |
| 16:02.56 | apnea_ | dds: can't you just use the skype? :) |
| 16:02.58 | dds | how? |
| 16:02.59 | taneli | why oh why sarge netinst sucks so badly? grub and lilo both fail to boot |
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| 16:03.07 | dds | apnea_, nope, non-free software |
| 16:03.08 | PerfDave | P8ntKid: http://www.debian.org/ |
| 16:03.09 | abrotman | P8ntKid: woody? |
| 16:03.17 | daffy-pkf | re |
| 16:03.29 | P8ntKid | i know that, but i got to a part where it wanted me to download many many iso images |
| 16:03.29 | PerfDave | abrotman: Either port-forward, or run GNU Gatekeeper on the router. |
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| 16:03.42 | PerfDave | P8ntKid: Did you read the Installation Manual? |
| 16:03.45 | P8ntKid | so what exactly do i need to install it on my server? |
| 16:03.50 | abrotman | PerfDave: i was just pointing out .. i don't think he wants to |
| 16:04.00 | abrotman | !ig |
| 16:04.00 | dpkg | it has been said that ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 16:04.00 | PerfDave | abrotman: That doesn't mean it's not possible. |
| 16:04.01 | absence | what do i have to do in order to make the halt command power down the computer? |
| 16:04.07 | infodroid | !reference |
| 16:04.08 | dpkg | reference is probably The Debian Reference. Will answer most of your questions about Debian. latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents |
| 16:04.09 | abrotman | PerfDave: then by all means .. help him out :) |
| 16:04.16 | C5Hardtop | how do i tell what x-windows version i have? |
| 16:04.24 | abrotman | dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:04.25 | dpkg | ii xserver-xfree86 1.6-11.2 abrotman's private gamp collection |
| 16:04.26 | PerfDave | absence: Load the APM / ACPI kernel module |
| 16:04.26 | apnea_ | absence: load the apm module |
| 16:04.28 | drasko | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:04.40 | infodroid | C5Hardtop: also, X -version |
| 16:04.42 | abrotman | dpkg: bah! |
| 16:04.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, bah is everyone's other favourite word (see heh) |
| 16:04.46 | PerfDave | drasko: Known bug, check the BTS |
| 16:04.50 | C5Hardtop | thanks! |
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| 16:05.22 | drasko | PerfDave, is it harmfull? Can it be ignored? |
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| 16:05.37 | PerfDave | Depends on whehter you want your PHP to talk to MySQL or not |
| 16:05.44 | daffy-pkf | i have a problem with opengl, i just did what is said here: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building, so now i use Xorg instead of xfree86, and the radeon module for my radeon 920, the problem is when i run glxgears it says "libGL error: InitDriver failed", i found nothing usable about it on google, can someone help me? |
| 16:05.47 | PerfDave | No idea, it's a PHP problem, I don't do php. |
| 16:05.54 | drasko | PerfDave, I want! |
| 16:05.54 | PerfDave | drasko: xorg isn't in Debian. |
| 16:06.01 | dds_ | oh yeah, and I've got this pesky little problem where my connections are reset about randomly every 30 minutes, which is a really causing a pain for jabber and IRC |
| 16:06.02 | daffy-pkf | s/920/9200 |
| 16:06.04 | dds_ | anyway |
| 16:06.04 | PerfDave | drasko: Check the BTS |
| 16:06.17 | dds_ | so all I've got are two machines that can only run free software. Both are behind NATs that I can not modify. |
| 16:06.18 | drasko | PerfDave, what is BTS? |
| 16:06.20 | dds_ | What can I do? |
| 16:06.24 | dds_ | drasko, bugs.debian.org |
| 16:06.34 | apnea_ | daffy-pkf: I heard radeon is broken with xorg |
| 16:06.43 | asg | dds_: if you use DHCP, try to obtain a longer lease |
| 16:06.47 | apnea_ | daffy-pkf: search google |
| 16:06.53 | tyranix | Hi is anyone aware of a change that affected exim in sid? /var/log/exim/mainlog and /var/log/exim/paniclog permissions keep getting reset to root.adm so exim cannot write there. It started yesterday right after an upgrade I noticed /var/log/exim/paniclog complained about permissions on /var/log/exim/mainlog. |
| 16:07.02 | thenuke | what was the problem again with X when my mouse lags like hell |
| 16:07.08 | dds_ | asg, it's not a lease thing. Just long running TCP and UDP sockets are randomly closed. My IP connectivity is fine. |
| 16:07.14 | asg | thenuke: check the bts, file bugs |
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| 16:07.24 | dds_ | just a fucking idiotic, old, router |
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| 16:07.34 | sepski_ | dds_: sounds to me like you need a 3rd box somewhere on the net to connect to, unless you can ssh to the firewalls that is |
| 16:07.34 | dds_ | that is very poorly configured |
| 16:07.35 | asg | dds_: maybe upgrading the router firmware will help |
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| 16:07.40 | daffy-pkf | apnea_> it is by looking the neverwinter nights forum that i read it works better using Xorg and the radeon module |
| 16:07.40 | PerfDave | drasko: /msg dpkg bts |
| 16:07.46 | asg | dds_: I've seen similar crap with linksys junk |
| 16:07.49 | dds_ | sepski_, can't do that |
| 16:07.56 | dds_ | asg, I have no idea what the router is |
| 16:08.03 | dds_ | asg, and I can't tell anyone to fix it |
| 16:08.06 | asg | dds_: hmmm |
| 16:08.10 | abrotman | dds_: fix it! |
| 16:08.12 | dds_ | can't |
| 16:08.18 | abrotman | dds_: fix it! |
| 16:08.21 | PerfDave | dds_: Then you're fucked. You can't connect two systems behind NAT when you have no control over the NAT and no third party to broker the connection. |
| 16:08.22 | abrotman | !beer dds_ |
| 16:08.27 | dds_ | I'm about 5000 miles from home. Touching it would get me sent back. |
| 16:08.39 | abrotman | dds_: sent back where? |
| 16:08.42 | abrotman | !confusion |
| 16:08.53 | asg | abrotman: soviet russia? |
| 16:09.00 | dds_ | PerfDave, skype does it by having a P2P fabric where the network functions as directory, gateway, and packet switching layer combined. |
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| 16:09.05 | sepski_ | dds_ ssh tunnel then ? |
| 16:09.06 | abrotman | asg: yes |
| 16:09.06 | dds_ | abrotman, far away |
| 16:09.18 | abrotman | dds_ must be from antartica |
| 16:09.22 | dds_ | sepski_, can't ssh tunnel from one machine behind a nat to another machine behind a nat |
| 16:09.29 | dds_ | check my host name |
| 16:09.35 | dds_ | then guess |
| 16:09.42 | abrotman | dds_: that doesn't tell me where the other end is |
| 16:09.48 | dds_ | guess! |
| 16:09.51 | asg | abrotman: california |
| 16:09.51 | PerfDave | dds_: I know how skype works. It uses a third party as a broker and router. If you can't do that then you're fucked. |
| 16:09.56 | abrotman | asg: uhm .. ok |
| 16:10.00 | asg | abrotman: that was a guess |
| 16:10.03 | abrotman | asg: it was either that or siberia :) |
| 16:10.05 | mouche | can anyone advise on how to fix an iccurate (totally useless) battery charge display on a laptop with warty? |
| 16:10.06 | asg | hehe |
| 16:10.07 | absence | PerfDave: thanks, that did the trick |
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| 16:10.12 | dds_ | PerfDave, but with skype, I don't need to explicitly create the third party and it's not a bottleneck. |
| 16:10.13 | asg | mouche: #ubuntu can |
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| 16:10.33 | PerfDave | dds_: No, it's handled for you, but that's still what heppens. |
| 16:10.33 | abrotman | asg: but debian is ubuntu no? |
| 16:10.34 | dds_ | PerfDave, you could just say that "there is no free software to do it yet that I know of" instead of "you're fucked", you know.. |
| 16:10.42 | mouche | Oops! sorry! I thought I was on #ubuntu. Thanks. |
| 16:10.47 | mouche | #ubuntu |
| 16:10.49 | PerfDave | dds_: It amounts to pretty much the same. |
| 16:10.50 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.00 | abrotman | hmm .. food .. hmm |
| 16:11.07 | dds_ | PerfDave, hardly. Skype works. Try getting your mom to setup that gateway. |
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| 16:11.19 | asg | abrotman: dunno, the disk I was given fell behind the cubicle furniture and won't be retrieved until I remodel the office which, since I work for the state, will be never. |
| 16:11.21 | PerfDave | dds_: You're tryin gto do something which is impossible, either for Free or non-Free software. |
| 16:11.32 | abrotman | asg: heh |
| 16:11.39 | PerfDave | dds_: Yes, Skype works by using a third-party server to broker the connection, which you've said you can't do. |
| 16:11.50 | sepski_ | dds_ if skype does what you want then why not use skype ? |
| 16:11.58 | dds_ | what are you talking about, skype does it right now and it's not fucking magic! for any competent programmer the technical solution is clever but not genius. It just seems like there is no free software project doing it yet. |
| 16:11.59 | abrotman | nonfree |
| 16:12.02 | dds_ | sepski, nonfree |
| 16:12.04 | asg | abrotman: I'm just glad it wasn't my OpenBSD discs |
| 16:12.06 | noid2 | what is the most popular pop3 server ? |
| 16:12.10 | abrotman | asg: those are free you know |
| 16:12.20 | abrotman | !popcon |
| 16:12.20 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 16:12.24 | asg | abrotman: I buy them to support the effort |
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| 16:12.25 | PerfDave | dds_: SKYPE USES A THIRD PARTY TO BROKER THE CONNECTION. IT DOES NOT PERFORM DIRECT CONNECTIONS BETWEEN TWO MACHINES BEHIND NAT |
| 16:12.36 | abrotman | !win PerfDave |
| 16:12.36 | dpkg | Congratulations, PerfDave! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 16:12.39 | PerfDave | dds_: *plonk* |
| 16:12.43 | abrotman | the first to use all caps for the day :) |
| 16:12.47 | idnar | heh |
| 16:12.47 | sepski_ | dds_ skype as any other p2p require open brokers, some call it highid, or whatever it's still the same |
| 16:12.59 | asg | abrotman: that's 'cause greycat is not here ;) |
| 16:13.02 | idnar | abrotman: YOU MEAN NOT EVERYONE TALKS LIKE THIS??!??!? |
| 16:13.05 | abrotman | asg: be nice if i didn't have to go through SPI to donate to debian |
| 16:13.08 | noid2 | abrotmam: wow cool a poplarity contest ...this is really something ive been looking for |
| 16:13.15 | abrotman | dds_: he is right though |
| 16:13.20 | valdyn | irc does just the same |
| 16:13.25 | asg | abrotman: well, in some respects you do donate by virtue of helping on here. |
| 16:13.33 | PerfDave | abrotman: If you want to donate to Debian, skolelinux may be a better route than SPI. |
| 16:13.34 | dds_ | abrotman, but I'm not asking for a general solution to opening TCP connections between two hosts behind NATs |
| 16:13.34 | abrotman | asg: but not ca-ching! |
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| 16:13.42 | mejo | hi |
| 16:13.46 | marcel | hi |
| 16:13.48 | idnar | dds_: there is no general solution |
| 16:13.51 | mejo | is it possible to set a background image with xdm? |
| 16:13.51 | abrotman | PerfDave: no way .. then i'd be employing .. uhm .. toresbe or someone |
| 16:13.52 | dds_ | I'm asking for any free software internet telephony project that aims to provide something like what skype provides |
| 16:14.01 | asg | abrotman: then send your favorite developer some cash, I'm sure they would appreciate it. |
| 16:14.05 | dds_ | idnar, well, there's IPv6, but that's just a bad joke these days.. ;) |
| 16:14.10 | abrotman | asg: dan2 is only 16 :) |
| 16:14.16 | asg | abrotman: haha |
| 16:14.21 | asg | abrotman: he has plenty of brass |
| 16:14.26 | PerfDave | abrotman: Basically, SPI funds the Debian infrastructure (servers etc.) rather than developers, and the Debian infrastructure is apparently doing very nicely. |
| 16:14.29 | abrotman | asg: he does .. and a job to boot |
| 16:14.34 | idnar | dds_: well, "replace all IPv4 + NAT usage with IPv6" isn't much of a solution, yeah |
| 16:14.38 | asg | abrotman: yep |
| 16:14.40 | abrotman | PerfDave: say that next time gluck implodes :) |
| 16:15.12 | idnar | dds_: but please bear in mind that there are half a dozen types of NAT setups in use, and even more firewall setups, which combine to form a multitiude of problematic scenarios |
| 16:15.15 | C5Hardtop | i downloaded realplayer and got a RealPlayer10GOLD.bin What do i do with a bin file? it debian wont open it or execute it |
| 16:15.18 | asg | abrotman: is dan a full DD now then? |
| 16:15.21 | idnar | dds_: some of those scenarios are more easily worked around than others |
| 16:15.21 | dds_ | but, so, I'll just take this entire conversation to mean that #debian is not currently aware of any free software project that aims to provide services comparable to skype. Is that a fair conclusion? |
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| 16:15.25 | PerfDave | abrotman: *shrug* That's what I was told when I asked the DPL. |
| 16:15.26 | abrotman | asg: uhm . not sure any more ... |
| 16:15.35 | asg | abrotman: yeah, don't see him too often these days |
| 16:15.37 | abrotman | PerfDave: it's in good shape i suppose |
| 16:15.38 | dds_ | idnar, yeah, I'm well aware of the problems. |
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| 16:15.48 | abrotman | asg: he's working a lot i gather .. that java job he has |
| 16:15.49 | dds_ | idnar, debating them is not why I /join'd here |
| 16:16.02 | asg | abrotman: Java? I thought it was a C++ / Python fusion. |
| 16:16.08 | abrotman | dds_: sorry .. i tried to help :) |
| 16:16.15 | idnar | dds_: well, I don't personally know of any project implementing a peer-to-peer network for contacting other peers to setup a VoIP session |
| 16:16.17 | abrotman | asg: dunno .. he was asking me java questions |
| 16:16.18 | dds_ | abrotman, you did great, you didn't use all caps ;) |
| 16:16.26 | tyranix | If exim breaks due to file permissions (not caused by exim), what packages would I want to look at? |
| 16:16.29 | abrotman | dds_: IF I DO .. DO I GET BONUS POINTS? :) |
| 16:16.33 | dds_ | hehehe |
| 16:16.40 | asg | abrotman: something else then, he was asking about shared memory in C yesterday. |
| 16:16.44 | PerfDave | tyranix: You should fix whatever's breaking exim's files. |
| 16:16.49 | dds_ | idnar, damn that.. |
| 16:16.52 | abrotman | asg: he seems to be doing a lot of different things at once |
| 16:17.03 | abrotman | dds_: #p2p-hackers maybe ? |
| 16:17.09 | asg | abrotman: yeah, football season is over so he has to do something with all that spare time. |
| 16:17.15 | drasko | Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so' -- still have no idea... how to fix this? |
| 16:17.19 | abrotman | asg: girlfriend ? |
| 16:17.21 | tyranix | PerfDave: Right, I'm trying to find out what caused the change. I'm 99% sure it wasn't exim because it broke right after I upgraded and exim wasn't one of the upgrades. |
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| 16:17.30 | asg | abrotman: nafaik |
| 16:17.36 | asg | drasko: did you check the bts? |
| 16:17.41 | dan2 | asg: yo |
| 16:17.44 | asg | dan2: hiya |
| 16:17.48 | abrotman | asg: i was suggesting he get one :) |
| 16:17.54 | dds_ | abrotman, no reply in #p2p-hackers... and I thought I was in the weird time-zone |
| 16:17.56 | dan2 | abrotman: 15 |
| 16:18.03 | abrotman | dan2: oh .. sorry |
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| 16:18.17 | abrotman | asg: see .. he is awake :) |
| 16:18.24 | dds_ | but, I came here to #debian because I didn't want to have to explain the difference between zero-cost and free-software. |
| 16:18.26 | asg | abrotman: yep |
| 16:18.29 | dds_ | anyway, thanks guys |
| 16:18.37 | dds_ | this was faster than google... |
| 16:18.40 | abrotman | asg: i told you not all americans like dan2 are lazy slobs :) |
| 16:18.41 | dds_ | I'm going to check sourceforge, too |
| 16:18.43 | C5Hardtop | does sarge come with a firewall? |
| 16:18.46 | dan2 | asg: nothing like making 100% disposable money :) |
| 16:18.52 | sepski_ | C5Hardtop, several |
| 16:18.56 | asg | dan2: yeah, no doubt. |
| 16:18.58 | asg | dan2: :) |
| 16:19.02 | sepski_ | C5Hardtop, shorewall beeing my favorite |
| 16:19.05 | abrotman | dan2: get another girlfriend |
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| 16:19.12 | C5Hardtop | are any active by default? |
| 16:19.30 | dan2 | abrotman: my current one can't spend the money fast enough :) |
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| 16:19.40 | toresbe | sepski_: hey :) |
| 16:19.43 | abrotman | dan2: you need a beer habit |
| 16:19.49 | abrotman | dan2: or a driver's license |
| 16:19.53 | dan2 | abrotman: ever had Victory beer? |
| 16:19.54 | sepski_ | dds, someone have aleast bothered to register openskype.net/org/com freeskype.com probably just a domain shark but you never know |
| 16:19.55 | toresbe | dan2: or both! |
| 16:20.04 | sepski_ | toresbe, heisan |
| 16:20.11 | abrotman | dan2: of course ... what kind of alcoholic do you think i am? |
| 16:20.20 | dan2 | abrotman: the victory micro brewery is in downingtown, very good food + beer |
| 16:20.21 | abrotman | dan2: down in downingtown |
| 16:20.24 | drasko | asg, yes... I visited http://bugs.debian.org butt still don't know what to looking for there... And how to look... and so what if i find that someone reported a bug... Still I would not know how to fix it... I never done this before |
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| 16:20.31 | abrotman | dan2: i still think sly fox is my favorite :) |
| 16:20.39 | dan2 | abrotman: sly fox is owned by a friend of mine |
| 16:20.47 | frankster | can you have multiple Suggests lines in a debian/control file? |
| 16:20.48 | abrotman | dan2: though i did go to lancaster brewery a month ago or so .. decent food and beer |
| 16:20.50 | dan2 | abrotman: I like 'em all |
| 16:20.56 | toresbe | sepski_: I have a PDP-11 serial card on my lap!! :D |
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| 16:21.06 | dan2 | abrotman: Victory SmokeHouse burger is the best |
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| 16:21.20 | dan2 | abrotman: chedder cheeseburger with bacon and spicy barbeque sauce |
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| 16:21.34 | thenuke | uff, changing ImPS2 -> PS2 cured the laggy mouse |
| 16:21.34 | frankster | dan2: you're makeing me hungry |
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| 16:21.45 | dan2 | frankster: best burger I've ever had |
| 16:21.49 | daffy-pkf_ | is there a x.org package for sid? |
| 16:21.54 | dds_ | hey hey |
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| 16:21.56 | abrotman | dan2: the best? .. i dbout it .. you've not had the Ole Smokey from bullfrog brewery :) |
| 16:22.02 | thenuke | cant I now get my mousewheel work at all :( |
| 16:22.04 | dds_ | GPL'd: www.phonegaim.com |
| 16:22.18 | dds_ | integrates linphone with gaim, apparently. |
| 16:22.20 | dan2 | abrotman: picked up a six pack of Victory HopDevil last night :) |
| 16:22.25 | dds_ | and I think lindows is providing the SIP gateway |
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| 16:22.29 | abrotman | dan2: or the jersey burger from jerseytown tavern .. or the ole 86er |
| 16:22.36 | abrotman | dan2: you can't pick up any beer |
| 16:22.50 | dan2 | abrotman: one of my cronies picked it up :) |
| 16:23.08 | abrotman | dan2: i'll buy if you can eat http://www.competitiveeaters.com/YeOld96er-6-poundBurgerChallenge.htm |
| 16:23.30 | toresbe | gaimvv is a fork that implements MSN Video and Audio - which will eventually be joined |
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| 16:24.12 | abrotman | dan2: think you can eat it ? |
| 16:24.16 | dan2 | yes |
| 16:24.32 | sepski_ | toresbe, and youll use it as ? |
| 16:24.34 | dan2 | abrotman: I wouldn't be a lineman if I couldn't eat that, or at least I know somebody who definetly can |
| 16:24.42 | dds_ | I think I'll make debs of this... |
| 16:24.49 | toresbe | sepski_: A serial card for the PDP11 on my table right now!! ^_^ |
| 16:25.00 | abrotman | dan2: the deal is .. if you eat it in under 3 hours .. you get it free iirc |
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| 16:25.35 | dan2 | abrotman: Mike Lukenda can eat it in under 20 minutes, is that ok? :) |
| 16:25.42 | abrotman | dan2: i doubt it |
| 16:25.51 | abrotman | dan2: you have to eat it all .. not just the meat |
| 16:25.56 | dan2 | abrotman: he can do it |
| 16:26.04 | abrotman | dan2: so tell him you'll pay if he fails |
| 16:26.08 | dan2 | k |
| 16:26.10 | abrotman | dan2: i seriously doubt he coudl do it |
| 16:26.17 | dan2 | abrotman: oh, he can do it |
| 16:26.18 | dds_ | haha, the linspire packages have a maintainer of Robert McQueen <robot101@debian.org>.. Where are the debs?!? |
| 16:26.20 | abrotman | dan2: sounds like you've got a destination for a road trip |
| 16:26.31 | dan2 | abrotman: he can bench 450lbs... he's huge |
| 16:26.37 | dan2 | abrotman: and he loves food like no other |
| 16:26.51 | abrotman | dan2: doesn't matter .. |
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| 16:27.08 | abrotman | dan2: http://www.dennysbeerbarrelpub.com/ ... there's the place .. get going |
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| 16:28.04 | abrotman | dan2: i eat a lot of food .. i had issues downing a 1lb burger with a large plate of fries and cole slaw .. took about 45 minutes |
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| 16:28.35 | toresbe | sepski_: IT WORKS!! |
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| 16:29.02 | sepski_ | toresbe, heheh is it a serial terminal now ? :) |
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| 16:29.33 | sepski_ | toresbe, so now you can develope unix .. um again :) |
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| 16:29.49 | abrotman | dan2: you really gonna go? |
| 16:29.59 | BeerBaron | someone can help me? i've a problem with my inspiron 5150 and the wireless |
| 16:30.11 | abrotman | !ask |
| 16:30.12 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 16:30.49 | BeerBaron | i have downloaded and compiled the kernel 2.6 |
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| 16:31.04 | dds_ | yeah, it's just a fucking patch to gaim. and half of it is icons |
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| 16:31.48 | BeerBaron | but at start up it's blocked and it appears "hd0 Lost Interrupt |
| 16:31.48 | dds_ | ah, ok, found the part just for the sipphone integration.. |
| 16:32.16 | abrotman | why are you compiling a kernel? |
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| 16:33.01 | BeerBaron | because the 2.4 does not support the wireless. |
| 16:33.09 | abrotman | BeerBaron: which debian are you using? |
| 16:33.14 | sepski_ | BeerBaron, you have ofcourse checked out the varius reviews about that on tuxmobile.com ? i saw atlest 3 for 5150+debian 4 if you know french |
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| 16:34.15 | dds_ | interesting to know that the lindows folks use arch internally |
| 16:34.16 | BeerBaron | i don't know my debian version |
| 16:34.19 | dds_ | although I prefer darcs more |
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| 16:35.00 | abrotman | BeerBaron: /etc/debian_version |
| 16:35.26 | dds_ | omfg |
| 16:35.44 | abrotman | g ? |
| 16:35.46 | dds_ | they're just using a free sipphone server |
| 16:35.51 | dds_ | fucking cheating bastards at lindows |
| 16:36.03 | dds_ | they've done nothing here but harvest others work |
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| 16:36.14 | abrotman | dds_: sounds about right |
| 16:36.17 | dds_ | ok |
| 16:36.22 | dds_ | but they did show me something very useful |
| 16:36.25 | BeerBaron | 3.1, the version |
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| 16:36.34 | dds_ | and I have the solution to my problem. |
| 16:36.40 | noloK | how i can set my matrix printer to print some page in the browser? |
| 16:36.53 | dds_ | I can use linphone (a very nice gnome voip program) and www.sipphone.com |
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| 16:37.00 | dds_ | and my problem is solved |
| 16:37.22 | dds_ | free for calls to computers at least |
| 16:37.26 | dds_ | groovy |
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| 16:37.57 | dds_ | skype probably has slightly better quality but this should be effectively the same |
| 16:38.09 | dds_ | and I can only hope that the sipphone.com folks are using asterisk ;) |
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| 16:38.34 | kirbymeister | i cant get XMMS to work with a sound server |
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| 16:40.03 | drasko | PerfDave, does that php4 bug have something to do with libmysqlclient12 - am I on the right track? |
| 16:40.07 | tyranix | hmm running out of ideas on what could break exim. I extracted all the packages (everything in /var/cache/apt/archives) and grep'ed for various things "root.*adm" "exim" "/var/log" and nothing looks like it would cause a problem. |
| 16:40.16 | PerfDave | drasko: I think so |
| 16:40.34 | PerfDave | drasko: But I don't use PHP or MySQL, I just remember people talking about it. |
| 16:40.37 | Shimonn | php4-openssl doesn't exists ? |
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| 16:44.33 | tyranix | I guess it's /etc/cron.daily/exim since the permissions get changed right after a log rotate. Anyone else have this problem? It's running savelog -p ... so it should save the permissions. |
| 16:44.54 | drasko | PerfDave, Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so -- but I find there is not such file in this directory... just gd.so ans psgl.so... Should I just copy mysql.so in this directory? |
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| 16:45.36 | berzerka | hello everyone |
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| 16:46.17 | sepski_ | berzerka, just imagine you have 773 people greeting you back and be happy about it |
| 16:46.20 | PerfDave | drasko: *shrug* I have no idea how to fix your problem. |
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| 16:46.28 | PerfDave | drasko: Read the BTS |
| 16:46.32 | unused | :> |
| 16:46.34 | unused | >>>>>>>>>> |
| 16:46.36 | unused | qko |
| 16:46.47 | drasko | PerfDave, ok... thanks... |
| 16:47.43 | tyranix | Ahh that was it, a change to savelog in debianutils. Already in the BTS I just didn't know which package to look under before. |
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| 16:53.04 | Matrix | hi |
| 16:53.22 | Rawplayer | sup |
| 16:53.32 | Matrix | can anybody help me compiling gtk+ ???? |
| 16:53.43 | Matrix | i have the next error |
| 16:53.54 | Matrix | checking For sufficiently new FreeType (at least 2.0.1)... yes |
| 16:53.54 | Matrix | configure: error: Xft Pango backend is required for x11 target |
| 16:54.04 | berzerka | berzerka, sepski_: well i think the 773 people can imagine that themselves. just wanted to say hello.. |
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| 16:55.31 | berzerka | sepski_: but youre right of course, next time ill keep my mouth shut =) |
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| 16:58.28 | WolfCub | Hi everyone, I need a little help with Debian networking... |
| 16:58.47 | WolfCub | I got my laptop and my desktop connected through a crossover cable. The desktop has dual LAN, so eth0 is for my DSL modem and eth1 is for my crossover cable to my laptop. The laptop only has one ethernet port, eth0. How can I share an Internet connection and files between them? I got them to ping each other, but that's it. |
| 16:59.05 | WolfCub | How can I share the Internet connection and get them on a LAN for file sharing and gaming? |
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| 16:59.11 | WolfCub | Both are Sarge. |
| 16:59.47 | elirips | hello. do i understand this right: i have an x-server running for my gui. as it is called x-"server", means that i could connect via network from another linux-box and have there the same gui as i would be sitting in front of the computer where the x-server is running? or is that wrong? |
| 17:01.24 | PerfDave | elirips: You can do that. You can also connect from your X server to a machien with no GUI, and run X applications on that other machine which are displayed on your local machine. |
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| 17:03.09 | elirips | PerfDave: Doesn't that need damn good network connection? basically there are something around 1400x1000 pixels to transfer each time.. what connection speed is necessary to be able to work normal? |
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| 17:03.50 | PerfDave | elirips: No, it doesn't transfer the entire desktop, it transfers commands in the X server protocol. |
| 17:04.26 | WolfCub | This is my post at linuxquestions if anyone has any help: |
| 17:04.26 | WolfCub | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=292032 |
| 17:04.38 | elirips | PerfDave: what speed is necessary? roughly? is 1 mbit/s alreday enough fast? |
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| 17:04.58 | froze | Hi all, I just installed a netinst cd of testing. after apt-getting gnome et.al. the scroll wheel scrolls down but not up. Has anyone seen this before? |
| 17:05.26 | PerfDave | elirips: Depends what you're trying to do. For running X applications over a network it should be fine, provided that that X application isn't a DVD player or something ;) |
| 17:05.31 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.38 | WolfCub | It skipps. |
| 17:06.27 | elirips | PerfDave: Wow, nice. going to read my mind about that. i start liking linux more and more the more i get to know :) well, so let's start googling ;) |
| 17:06.32 | elirips | and thanks for your info. |
| 17:07.22 | zanet | WolfCub: have you checked out any of the how-to's on sharing a network connection via NAT? |
| 17:08.09 | WolfCub | Yeah. |
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| 17:08.26 | spk | hi |
| 17:08.29 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.29 | spk | got a big prob |
| 17:08.37 | WolfCub | But no dice. |
| 17:08.37 | spk | no alt-gr under Xfree |
| 17:08.43 | WolfCub | See my post on linuxquestion. |
| 17:08.51 | spk | it seems lot of a people had this problem |
| 17:08.57 | spk | but no solution anywhere |
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| 17:09.42 | spk | can someone help? |
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| 17:10.06 | noid2 | why am i getting this error when trying to apt-intall .../lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /lib/libncurses.so.5) |
| 17:10.25 | zanet | WolfCub: What happens after you "echo 1 > /proc/sys" and so on and then do the iptables command? |
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| 17:10.50 | valdyn | noid2: because you are mixing woody / sarge / sid packages? |
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| 17:11.16 | spk | pliz someone? |
| 17:11.17 | WolfCub | Debian:~# echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 17:11.17 | WolfCub | debian:~# /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE |
| 17:11.17 | WolfCub | debian:~# /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 17:11.17 | WolfCub | debian:~# iptables |
| 17:11.17 | WolfCub | iptables v1.2.11: no command specified |
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| 17:11.35 | spk | WolfCub iptables -L |
| 17:11.36 | WolfCub | Whoa I got kicked? |
| 17:11.42 | noid2 | valdyn: is there a way around this |
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| 17:11.52 | zanet | WolfCub: Yes |
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| 17:12.10 | cahoot | spk: already set "XkbModel" "pc105"? |
| 17:12.14 | zanet | WolfCub: What's the output from iptables -L |
| 17:12.17 | spk | yep cahoot |
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| 17:12.25 | spk | but its on a IBM A21e LAptop |
| 17:12.31 | WolfCub | Ok iptables -L gives Debian:~# iptables -L |
| 17:12.31 | WolfCub | Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) |
| 17:12.31 | WolfCub | target prot opt source destination |
| 17:12.31 | WolfCub | Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) |
| 17:12.31 | WolfCub | target prot opt source destination |
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| 17:12.52 | PerfDave | Hehehe, WolfCub isn't very bright ;) |
| 17:12.53 | spk | so WolfCub probleme? |
| 17:12.55 | FieldySnuts | @lart WolfCub |
| 17:13.02 | WolfCub | Wtf that's annoying. |
| 17:13.03 | zanet | WolfCub: Oops, you should try one like at a time. |
| 17:13.12 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 17:13.15 | FieldySnuts | @ops WolfCub repeatedly flooding and being kicked (not taking a hint) |
| 17:13.15 | WolfCub | Doh. |
| 17:13.18 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: WolfCub repeatedly flooding and being kicked (not taking a hint) |
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| 17:13.36 | WolfCub | Ill type one line at a time then. |
| 17:13.40 | ElectricElf | WolfCub: Use #flood if you don't mind. :) |
| 17:13.43 | WolfCub | So what do I do next? |
| 17:14.02 | WolfCub | After iptables -L what do I do? |
| 17:14.04 | spk | wolfcub man iptables ? |
| 17:14.09 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:14.18 | WolfCub | It gave a bunch of stuff. |
| 17:14.21 | spk | well what do you wanna do? |
| 17:14.28 | zanet | WolfCub: I'll post to the linuxquestions url you posted earlier |
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| 17:14.41 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 17:14.43 | WolfCub | Thanks. |
| 17:14.53 | WolfCub | Ill post what iptables -L does on Linux questionas. |
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| 17:15.46 | WolfCub | Ok I posted. |
| 17:15.58 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:17.08 | WolfCub | I've been trying for about 20 hours straight to get this crossover cable going to no avail lol. |
| 17:17.11 | WolfCub | :/ |
| 17:17.24 | WolfCub | All they do is ping eachother. |
| 17:17.33 | WolfCub | Can't figure out how to get more. |
| 17:17.58 | berzerka | is there a builtin bash-shell command to just quit the script at a certain point? (like exit or sth..) |
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| 17:18.27 | BleSS | cmp is as diff but to binary files, true? |
| 17:18.45 | bob2 | berzerka: er, yes... |
| 17:18.57 | berzerka | bob2: namely? |
| 17:19.07 | infodroid | udev is setting the owner:group for /dev/sdb2 to root.root but for /dev/sdb1 it is root:disk and for /dev/sdb it is root:floppy. i checked /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions and it should be root:disk for any /dev/sd[a-z][0-9]*. is there something i'm missing here? |
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| 17:19.47 | bob2 | berzerka: exit? |
| 17:19.48 | juhov | WolfCub: the iptables commands you ran... you should only need one and it should have -o eth0, not eth1 or ppp0 |
| 17:19.51 | bob2 | why didn't you just try it? |
| 17:20.16 | WolfCub | Eth0? that's whre my dsl modem plugs in. |
| 17:20.21 | WolfCub | The laptop is in eth1 |
| 17:20.33 | WolfCub | Could you post what I should do>? |
| 17:20.35 | juhov | WolfCub: eth0 is correct then |
| 17:20.38 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 17:20.39 | berzerka | bob2: oh.. well =) |
| 17:20.57 | WolfCub | So run: /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE? |
| 17:21.02 | WolfCub | Whoopps I mean eth0 |
| 17:21.04 | abrotman | #iptables ? |
| 17:21.07 | WolfCub | And then it'll work? |
| 17:21.08 | juhov | WolfCub: yeah |
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| 17:21.11 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 17:21.29 | WolfCub | Ok I did it, do I have to do it on the laptop too? |
| 17:21.42 | BleSS | cmp is to compare binary files, then can i patch a bianry? |
| 17:21.47 | juhov | WolfCub: no. on the laptop you have to set your desktop machine as the gateway |
| 17:21.55 | WolfCub | How do I do that? |
| 17:22.09 | bob2 | BleSS: no |
| 17:22.10 | tatoo_ | when i install debian, do i have any package by default for connection via PPPoE...such as pppoeconf?? |
| 17:22.13 | bob2 | BleSS: use xdelta for that |
| 17:22.13 | picoyardim | hi. |
| 17:22.20 | bob2 | or xdelta3, I guess |
| 17:22.22 | picoyardim | pico editor wget plz? |
| 17:22.26 | bob2 | tatoo_: yes |
| 17:22.27 | dvs | Is the /etc/udev/permissions.d directory still used in udev? I just got an error when I installed the new version of udev. |
| 17:22.33 | noid2 | ok i broke apt-get why do i get E: The package libc6 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 17:22.36 | BleSS | bob2, thx |
| 17:22.44 | WolfCub | How do I set desktop as gateway for laptop? |
| 17:22.45 | bob2 | noid2: what did you do? |
| 17:22.49 | juhov | WolfCub: edit /etc/network/interfaces, add a "gateway 192.whatever" under eth0 |
| 17:22.51 | infodroid | dvs: really, that might be the problem |
| 17:22.55 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 17:23.07 | infodroid | dvs: how does udev do it now? |
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| 17:23.30 | dvs | infodroid: Yeah, I got an error saying that it couldn't remove the directory because I added more permission files to it. |
| 17:23.52 | noid2 | bob2: i dont know ...i was trying to install cyrus-imapd then it wouldnt do it....because of some depend problems so installed them ...bust one of them wwas from test |
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| 17:23.56 | juhov | WolfCub: don't forget to ifdown & ifup the interface after you're done editing |
| 17:23.58 | WolfCub | OK it worked!!!!!!!! |
| 17:24.01 | dvs | infodroid: And none of the config files are recent |
| 17:24.05 | WolfCub | Thanks a lot!~ |
| 17:24.06 | juhov | WolfCub: great :) |
| 17:24.07 | bob2 | noid2: no, really, what did you do? |
| 17:24.12 | WolfCub | Now, will all this save after I reboot? |
| 17:24.14 | bob2 | noid2: are you really using Debian? |
| 17:24.24 | noid2 | bob2: yes |
| 17:24.24 | bob2 | picoyardim: do not /msg people |
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| 17:24.31 | picoyardim | okes |
| 17:24.39 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:24.49 | infodroid | dvs: you are right, dpkg -S /etc/udev/permissions.d yields zilch |
| 17:25.00 | dvs | infodroid: Is that good? |
| 17:25.16 | noid2 | bob2: do you now why i am being told i need libc6 |
| 17:25.31 | infodroid | dvs: from my own ignorance this means that udev in debian is doing this some other way. the task is to find out how its setting the permissions now. |
| 17:25.36 | bob2 | picoyardim: your question makes no sense, sorry |
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| 17:25.48 | dvs | infodroid: OK |
| 17:25.52 | infodroid | dvs: could it be in the changelog? |
| 17:25.54 | juhov | WolfCub: on the laptop yes, but on the desktop the iptables rules will reset when you reboot. take a look at iptables-save, I haven't used it though |
| 17:25.55 | abrotman | !pico |
| 17:25.56 | dpkg | pico is probably a newbie-friendly editor shipped with pine. As the license is non-free, it is not shipped in Debian. Consider using nano as a free, superior replacement (ask me about 'nano'). pico (p) is also the SI prefix for 10^-12 |
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| 17:26.05 | dvs | infodroid: in /usr/share/doc/udev? |
| 17:26.28 | infodroid | dvs: do you mind pm |
| 17:26.38 | WolfCub | Ok I will. |
| 17:26.40 | dvs | infodroid: go ahead |
| 17:26.45 | WolfCub | Now how do I share files? |
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| 17:27.42 | tdfc | can someone with python2.3 + twisted on sarge try something with me ? |
| 17:27.55 | tdfc | my python seems completely broken |
| 17:28.08 | bob2 | noid2: please don't be obnoxious |
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| 17:28.18 | bob2 | noid2: I can't help you fix that unless I know how you got into that mess |
| 17:28.23 | berzerka | WolfCub: among unix systems, NFS(network file system), with windows machines SAMBA.. |
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| 17:28.44 | WolfCub | Ok they're both Debian. |
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| 17:29.12 | noid2 | bob2: if i knew ...i would fix it ...unfortunetly i dont |
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| 17:31.36 | ColonelPanic01 | I just compiled the 2.6.10 on Debian Unstable, and I'm a bit lost on getting alsa to work. I've consulted The Great Google, but I'm still a bit at a loss. |
| 17:32.04 | berzerka | WolfCub:well then preferably nfs, look at man nfs for how to share nfs volumes (in/etc/fstab) |
| 17:32.04 | ColonelPanic01 | I tried just grabbing the debian package for the source and compiling the module, but it doesn't like that I haev alsa built into the kernal |
| 17:32.48 | berzerka | WolfCub: there also has to be nfs support compiled into your kernel (same for samba) |
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| 17:33.31 | takatumi | ColonelPanic01: "grabbing the debian package for the source and compiling the module" which package? |
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| 17:33.50 | bob2 | ColonelPanic01: just use the 2.6.10 alsa |
| 17:33.53 | bob2 | compiles as modules |
| 17:33.54 | bob2 | load |
| 17:33.55 | bob2 | enjoy |
| 17:34.21 | ColonelPanic01 | I'm sorry? I should mention I'm completely new to sound on linux at all. |
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| 17:34.28 | ColonelPanic01 | Not sure what you mean by that |
| 17:34.49 | bob2 | ? |
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| 17:34.57 | spk | I have got a fuckin probleme would someone dare to answer damn it! |
| 17:35.05 | bob2 | spk: stop being obnoxious |
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| 17:35.11 | spk | bob2 ......; |
| 17:35.13 | Evaso | there is a way to autmatically regenerate fstab file on debian? |
| 17:35.16 | bob2 | ColonelPanic01: why are you compiling your own kernel? |
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| 17:35.30 | ColonelPanic01 | bob2: I selected it to be built-in when I compiled it. |
| 17:35.32 | spk | no alt gr under X ............ |
| 17:35.40 | berzerka | WolfCub: NFS: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ SMB: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO.html |
| 17:35.41 | spk | someopne knwos this problem? |
| 17:35.42 | bob2 | spk: we saw you the first time |
| 17:35.56 | spk | bob2 so why didnt you answered... |
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| 17:36.07 | tyranix | Evaso: You could start with /etc/mtab |
| 17:36.08 | bob2 | because I don't know the answer |
| 17:36.15 | bob2 | and it seems no one else does |
| 17:36.17 | ColonelPanic01 | Uh, I was under the impression that I needed to have it in the kernel. I just figured while I was at it, might as well grab 2.6.x. |
| 17:36.27 | bob2 | no |
| 17:36.32 | drasko | how can i fast-check if apache is communicating with mysql? |
| 17:36.33 | takatumi | ColonelPanic01: it should work built-in as well. |
| 17:36.36 | bob2 | also, 2.6.10 is precompiled in Debian |
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| 17:36.46 | spk | well the pb with debian is nobody seems to cares about the small bug encoutered by few people... |
| 17:36.48 | Evaso | tyranix: i want to create an fstab like debian create one on a fresh system install |
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| 17:37.01 | bob2 | spk: no one in this channel is a Debian X hacker. |
| 17:37.09 | bob2 | spk: if you want it fixed, please file a bug |
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| 17:37.28 | berzerka | spk, check your x keymap and the xserver conffile whether you have selected the correct keyboard model/layout/rules |
| 17:37.30 | mrtux | can anyone help me with grub?... i've overwritten the MBR with lilo but Debian continue to boot with grub.... |
| 17:37.48 | spk | berzerka I ve checked this a least a thousend time today |
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| 17:38.08 | spk | i m know trying to map keycode 113 to anohter key but with no success |
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| 17:38.34 | valdyn | mrtux: the mbr of what? which mbr is grub booting from? |
| 17:38.56 | valdyn | mrtux: obviously its different mbrs if what you said is true.. |
| 17:39.21 | mrtux | i've a sata pci controller and i've configured it with raid 1 so i've overwritten md0 |
| 17:39.23 | WolfCub | On my laptop now I get a message about /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot being depreciated and please use /etc/network/interfaces. |
| 17:39.31 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.41 | WolfCub | And the laptop's Internet is laggy as hell. |
| 17:39.41 | ColonelPanic01 | I tried running alsaconf, but it doesn't seem to find any soundcards. It shows up as a 'Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)' in lspci |
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| 17:39.58 | berzerka | spk, hm well then good luck im sorry im not that familiar with the keymap stuff.. |
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| 17:39.59 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.09 | WolfCub | For the Internet sharing. |
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| 17:40.16 | dvs | infodroid: are you there? |
| 17:40.41 | froze | It looks like either gpm or X has changed its behaviour wrt imps2. Switching to exps2 in gpm.conf and ExplorerPS/2 in XFConfig-4 fixes the scroll up problem. Who should this bug be filed against? |
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| 17:41.15 | valdyn | mrtux: i would bet grub is on the mbr of /dev/sda, but you better have a bootdisk ready before you overwrite it |
| 17:41.16 | kristian | hi there... i need to bind device files to raw devices.... what is the right way of doing this in Debian? Using RedHat I remember just having to edit /etc/sysconfig/rawdevices.... |
| 17:41.19 | jetscreamer | ColonelPanic001, kernel version is important when troubleshooting alsa, ie 2.4 vs 2.6 |
| 17:41.26 | bob2 | froze: have you read the gpm README and README.Debian? |
| 17:41.44 | ColonelPanic01 | jetscreamer, I'm on 2.6.10 |
| 17:41.50 | froze | Uhhmmm no. Where are they locted |
| 17:41.50 | mrtux | valdyn: k thanks... |
| 17:41.52 | ColonelPanic01 | heh, as of an hour ago or so. |
| 17:42.06 | bob2 | froze: same place they always are, /usr/share/doc/<package> |
| 17:42.07 | froze | errr s/locted/located |
| 17:42.15 | jetscreamer | http://xfree.org/current/ |
| 17:42.17 | froze | thanks |
| 17:42.22 | jetscreamer | for the mice |
| 17:42.37 | WolfCub | The autostart file contains: !/bin/sh (nextline) echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward (nextline) /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 17:42.51 | WolfCub | And it runs on boot up and now laggy Internet. |
| 17:42.54 | takatumi | ColonelPanic01: if you have the alsa stuff compiled static in the kernel, you don't need to fiddle with alsaconf |
| 17:42.55 | WolfCub | On the laptop. |
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| 17:43.29 | ColonelPanic01 | takatumi, Sorry for being a newb then, but what should I need to do to get it up? |
| 17:43.38 | ColonelPanic01 | Wow, that sounded wrong. You know what I mean. heh. |
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| 17:43.50 | ColonelPanic01 | lol |
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| 17:44.03 | ralf | Hi! |
| 17:44.10 | ColonelPanic01 | Guten Tag! |
| 17:44.15 | pflanze | Hello. I want to get the floppy disks for installing Sarge. Should I use those from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/rc2/images/floppy/ or http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/rc2/images/floppy/access/ ? |
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| 17:44.25 | drasko | how to start postgresql? command postgres not recognised... |
| 17:44.30 | takatumi | ColonelPanic01: you have left out the oss stuff right? you may need alsa oss emulation though. |
| 17:44.32 | dvs | ColonelPanic001: you ARE talking about ALSA, right. |
| 17:44.42 | ralf | what 'dpkg --set-selections' does? |
| 17:44.55 | olivier__ | drasko: use /etc/init.d/postgresql start |
| 17:45.00 | jetscreamer | pflanze, you might consider a daily, not rc2, but up2u |
| 17:45.04 | dvs | ralf: Prints out the current state of all the packages that are installed |
| 17:45.08 | ralf | nope |
| 17:45.10 | ralf | get |
| 17:45.12 | juhov | ralf: man dpkg |
| 17:45.12 | ralf | oops |
| 17:45.15 | ralf | set, not get |
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| 17:45.17 | kristian | hi there... i need to bind device files to raw devices.... what is the right way of doing this in Debian? Using RedHat I remember just having to edit /etc/sysconfig/rawdevices.... |
| 17:45.19 | Evaso | is there a way to automatically regenerate fstab file on debian like debian do on a fresh installed system? |
| 17:45.21 | pflanze | jetscreamer: where from? And still: what is "access" for? |
| 17:45.24 | ColonelPanic01 | It'll cause problems to leave OSS in? I'll double check it |
| 17:45.42 | jetscreamer | drasko, postgres starts on_boot by default, but /etc/init.d/postgresql start or so |
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| 17:45.57 | ralf | dpkg --set-selections: Set package selections using file read from stdin. |
| 17:45.57 | dpkg | You are moron #27, ralf |
| 17:45.58 | drasko | olivier__, ERROR: There is no PostgreSQL database framework in /var/lib/postgres/data. |
| 17:45.59 | drasko | Run initdb as the postgres user to create it |
| 17:46.10 | drasko | olivier__, how to do that? |
| 17:46.19 | ralf | what does mean "Set package selections"? |
| 17:46.22 | olivier__ | looks like your package isn't well configured |
| 17:46.45 | TinoW | is there any hidden place with a pg8 package maybe? :) |
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| 17:47.04 | jetscreamer | pflanze, access is for accessibility, and http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/floppy/ |
| 17:47.16 | jetscreamer | or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status |
| 17:47.39 | elirips | and another question about the x-server: are there clients for windows too? so that i could start an xclient on a win-box, and connect to my xserver running on this computer, and then i got kde-desktop on the win-machine? is that possible too? |
| 17:47.40 | ColonelPanic01 | Okay, looks like OSS was also built in, so I'll try removing that and compiling again. We'll see if I'm back soon. heh |
| 17:47.43 | ColonelPanic01 | thanks for the help, guys. |
| 17:47.44 | BeerBaron | I' ve lost you... |
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| 17:47.51 | pflanze | jetscreamer: accessibility like for blind people? (And should I report that to someone caring about the installer manual?) |
| 17:47.54 | WolfCub | Please read the last post and help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1481561 |
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| 17:47.57 | ColonelPanic01 | elirips, Yes. |
| 17:48.02 | TinoW | elirips: for this you need an x-server on windows |
| 17:48.02 | dvs | ColonelPanic001: And compile in oss emulation in ALSA |
| 17:48.06 | noid2 | how do you install a virtual package |
| 17:48.06 | ColonelPanic01 | elirips, I don't know details offhand, but I've seen it done |
| 17:48.10 | drp | (kde)I changed something in my theme so that I no longer have minimize, close, maximize buttons in my app. windows ... how do I get them bacK? |
| 17:48.12 | jetscreamer | elirips, yeah you can but why would you want to? |
| 17:48.19 | ColonelPanic01 | dvs: will do. Thanks again |
| 17:48.22 | Xenguy | elirips: 'FreeNX' can do that |
| 17:48.36 | TinoW | elirips: and not related to that, there are rumors for qt port to windows |
| 17:48.39 | jetscreamer | pflanze, yeh like for the blind... dunno about the report something thing, up2u i guess |
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| 17:48.51 | pflanze | jetscreamer: thanks. |
| 17:49.10 | jetscreamer | elirips, cygwin if you just have to eh |
| 17:49.15 | TinoW | elirips: cygwin/xfree86, Reflections, ... |
| 17:49.17 | jetscreamer | np PF |
| 17:49.30 | ColonelPanic01 | dvs: I don't see OSS Emulation in the 'menuconfig'. Coulf it be listed as 'OSS PCM API'? |
| 17:49.32 | Xenguy | elirips: the FreeNX client contains the X-server functionality, and it all runs over SSH |
| 17:49.38 | TinoW | there is even a X-server as java applet :) |
| 17:49.39 | dvs | ColonelPanic001: yes |
| 17:49.46 | elirips | thanks people for your replies. why i want to do it? no special reason, just for fun.. would be nice to see kde "running" on win ;) |
| 17:49.47 | ColonelPanic01 | Excellent |
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| 17:49.53 | juhov | WolfCub: I don't see how it can become laggy after reboot. either it works like before or doesn't work at all |
| 17:49.55 | BucWheat | why isn't there an /etc/modprobe.conf ? |
| 17:50.15 | TinoW | elirips: while "running" is a euphemism there ;) |
| 17:50.19 | ColonelPanic01 | dvs: Does it matter if I build it in, or must it be a module? |
| 17:50.24 | Xenguy | elirips: debs for FreeNX are unofficial ATM - so google for it |
| 17:50.25 | juhov | WolfCub: if you ping some outside host now from the laptop, what are the ping times like? |
| 17:50.38 | dvs | ColonelPanic001: It should match what you're doing with ALSA in general. |
| 17:50.47 | ColonelPanic01 | Okay. Built-in it is. |
| 17:50.49 | TinoW | BucWheat: what should it do |
| 17:50.50 | TinoW | ? |
| 17:51.14 | ColonelPanic01 | dvs: there's also 'OSS Mixer API'. Do I need that as well? |
| 17:51.25 | dvs | ColonelPanic001: I'd include it. |
| 17:51.43 | elirips | i think i got to google a lot about x ;) seems like this really is much more than just a thing that brings colors and pics on my screen ;) |
| 17:51.48 | ColonelPanic01 | Alrighty, will do |
| 17:51.56 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.59 | the_real_maniac | Hi! Yesterday I buy NEC DVD_RW 3500A(G). I buy some DVD-R(W) blanks and try it (the DVD recoreder) using Qt: 3.3.3 |
| 17:51.59 | the_real_maniac | KDE: 3.3.2 |
| 17:51.59 | the_real_maniac | K3b: 0.11.20 |
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| 17:52.06 | asg | what a moron |
| 17:52.09 | dvs | ha! |
| 17:52.11 | Xenguy | grrr |
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| 17:52.19 | asg | the_real_maniac: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 17:53.03 | juhov | WolfCub: well, did you login into KDE as root after you rebooted the desktop, so that the commands would be run? (I don't recommend using it as root though) |
| 17:53.24 | WolfCub | Yeah I logged in as root. |
| 17:53.38 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.49 | WolfCub | It has more detail about the problem for ya. |
| 17:54.07 | davidmarsal | exit |
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| 17:54.39 | juhov | WolfCub: yes, I read it. doublecheck the shell script, the first line should be #!/bin/sh |
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| 17:54.42 | BucWheat | TinoW modprobe.conf should load modules at boot |
| 17:54.51 | juhov | WolfCub: in your posting it's just !/bin/sh |
| 17:55.02 | BucWheat | TinoW i need to load a module and run a command to initialize some hardware at boot |
| 17:55.10 | TinoW | BucWheat: and what is with /etc/modules ? |
| 17:55.23 | dvs | BucWheat: no |
| 17:55.24 | TinoW | BucWheat: or just use hotplug |
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| 17:55.47 | BucWheat | TinoW i've put it in modules and i still have to enter command manually after boot to get hardware to work |
| 17:55.59 | TinoW | BucWheat: which commands? |
| 17:56.04 | BucWheat | TinoW how do i use hotplug? my hardware is coldplug though |
| 17:56.10 | tyranix | the_real_maniac: Have you tried the unofficial firmware? NEC's official firmware has riplock (won't rip movies faster than 2x) and DVD write speeds are limited by the firmware. Each drive has a specification for the maximum it can record to each media type. Unofficial firmware removes riplock, sets it to rpc1, and has more aggressive record speeds. |
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| 17:56.19 | TinoW | BucWheat: hotplug works with cold plug too ;) |
| 17:56.20 | dvs | BucWheat: /etc/modules automatically load modules at boot time |
| 17:56.32 | BucWheat | alias adc cb_pcidas64 |
| 17:56.32 | BucWheat | alias char-major-98 comedi |
| 17:56.32 | BucWheat | alias char-major-98-0 cb_pcidas64 |
| 17:56.32 | BucWheat | #install cb_pcidas64 modprobe cb_pcidas64 \ /usr/local/sbin/comedi_config /dev/comedi0 cb_pcidas64 0,14 && \ /bin/echo "Configured /dev/comedi0 for cb_pcidas64" || \ /bin/echo "Failed to configure /dev/comedi0 for cb_pcidas64" || \ |
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| 17:56.40 | BucWheat | oops heh |
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| 17:57.01 | BucWheat | TinoW dvs those commands |
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| 17:57.08 | TinoW | BucWheat: you dont need them |
| 17:57.12 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:57.22 | jetscreamer | like do you have a 64bit proc? |
| 17:57.22 | BucWheat | TinoW install cb_pcidas64 modprobe cb_pcidas64 \ /usr/local/sbin/comedi_config /dev/comedi0 cb_pcidas64 0,14 && \ /bin/echo "Configured /dev/comedi0 for cb_pcidas64" || \ /bin/echo "Failed to configure /dev/comedi0 for cb_pcidas64" || \ |
| 17:57.43 | TinoW | BucWheat: if you system runs, you can lsmod and cat the relevant module names to /etc/modules |
| 17:57.48 | BucWheat | TinoW that is the line that configures my hardware and i need it to run at boot after the modules have been insmoded |
| 17:57.54 | juhov | WolfCub: right. well, check iptables -L on the desktop, do you see your masq rule there? |
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| 17:58.17 | BucWheat | TinoW yea i've already modprobed the modules manually and i see them in lsmod |
| 17:58.27 | TinoW | BucWheat: well, or just use hotplug which does it for you and/or allows to run scripts when it detects given hardware |
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| 17:59.13 | BucWheat | TinoW again. how do i use hotplug? |
| 17:59.21 | sander__ | How can I remove a partially installed mangled package? |
| 17:59.22 | WiFiTux | If a specific hardware doesn't show up in lspci, is there another way to get more debugged info about the hardware in the PC? |
| 17:59.24 | BeerBaron | Help me please... From Milan |
| 17:59.38 | Beer_Baron | Help Me please. From Milan |
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| 17:59.51 | jetscreamer | !it |
| 17:59.54 | TinoW | Beer_Baron: the beatles sayd that |
| 18:00.00 | dpkg | hmm... italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it, (anche /j #linux-it). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 18:00.13 | TinoW | WiFiTux: which bus does your hardware use? |
| 18:00.17 | jetscreamer | where is milan? |
| 18:00.25 | Beer_Baron | Italy |
| 18:00.26 | jetscreamer | spain or italy |
| 18:00.28 | WiFiTux | TinoW, probably serial or PCI |
| 18:00.29 | jetscreamer | !es |
| 18:00.29 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:00.32 | TinoW | BucWheat: apt-get install hotplug |
| 18:00.32 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 18:00.34 | WiFiTux | Italy! |
| 18:00.40 | thingfish | milan is the fashion capitol of the world. |
| 18:00.46 | Beer_Baron | yes |
| 18:00.57 | darklight | can anyone help me here?i got a prob with my machine.. |
| 18:00.58 | BucWheat | TinoW hotplug is already the newest version. |
| 18:01.11 | Xenguy | darklight: ask |
| 18:01.42 | WiFiTux | TinoW, how can I look it up? |
| 18:01.50 | TinoW | BucWheat: and it still does not know your hardware? Do you see anything in the logs if you /etc/init.d/hotplug restart ? |
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| 18:02.36 | darklight | well im a noob about debian..my prob is this.. i cant start my webserver apache..thats what it says..and i dont know what to do.. |
| 18:02.36 | asg | Beer_Baron: go to #debian-it |
| 18:02.37 | TinoW | WiFiTux: well, if it would be PCI, you would see it with lspci (obviously) and if its serial... well, then look at the socked where you plugged it in ;) |
| 18:02.45 | WolfCub | I edited my post http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1481561 |
| 18:02.52 | Xenguy | darklight: report the error message |
| 18:02.54 | BucWheat | TinoW it did this: cb_pcidas64: loaded successfully |
| 18:03.00 | BucWheat | TinoW that is the driver i need loaded |
| 18:03.06 | asg | darklight: check the logs (/var/log/apache/error_log) |
| 18:03.13 | Xenguy | darklight: >3 lines = flood = kicked |
| 18:03.15 | drasko | I get Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /usr/share/moodle/index.php on line 3... Does this function even exist? |
| 18:03.17 | Beer_Baron | no, here i found a person that help me for upgrade the kernel at 2.6.10 |
| 18:03.18 | TinoW | BucWheat: thats fine then :) |
| 18:03.30 | Beer_Baron | but i've lost him |
| 18:03.31 | darklight | asg what will i exactly type?im a total noob in this things.. |
| 18:03.37 | WiFiTux | TinoW, hhmm true. Is serial, why would it be in lspci ;)? hehe, ok, is there a serial lsserial? :) |
| 18:03.37 | darklight | :(( |
| 18:03.37 | BucWheat | TinoW yea but i need to issue: comedi_config /dev/comedi0 cb_pcidas64 so i can use the hardware :) |
| 18:03.40 | asg | drasko: did you install php4-mysql |
| 18:03.43 | TinoW | Beer_Baron: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.10 ? |
| 18:03.44 | BucWheat | TinoW where do i put that ? |
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| 18:03.48 | Beer_Baron | and i' ve forget the nick |
| 18:04.06 | Beer_Baron | TinoW. Not only |
| 18:04.08 | asg | darklight: pager /var/log/apache/error_log |
| 18:04.13 | Xenguy | darklight: try -> less /var/log/apache/error_log |
| 18:04.15 | TinoW | BucWheat: uh. hotplug uses a busload of scripts :) |
| 18:04.23 | Beer_Baron | it follow me step by step |
| 18:04.32 | asg | darklight: or (pager /var/log/apache/error.log) |
| 18:04.39 | TinoW | Beer_Baron: hm. well. debconf does it too :) |
| 18:04.48 | drasko | asg, yes, off course.. |
| 18:04.51 | BucWheat | TinoW so where do i add my code ? to what script ? |
| 18:05.00 | asg | Xenguy: less isn't installed by default, he's a total noob, so he probably doesn't have it. |
| 18:05.14 | Xenguy | asg: so pager is better, IC |
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| 18:05.27 | asg | drasko: did you verify that /etc/php4/apache/php.ini contains 'extension=mysql.so'? |
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| 18:05.36 | TinoW | BucWheat: which kind of hardware is this? man hotplug for a start |
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| 18:05.51 | BucWheat | TinoW pci data acquisition card |
| 18:05.55 | Goldfisch2 | I have migrated from a 32-bit /dev/hda1 boot partition to a 64-bit /dev/hda2 partition. However, grub keeps booting up /dev/hda1. How can I tell it to start on /dev/hda2? |
| 18:06.18 | drasko | asg, Yes, I uncommented that line... |
| 18:06.26 | asg | drasko: did you restart apache afterwards? |
| 18:06.32 | juhov | WolfCub: umm, iptables -L most definitely won't output what you wrote in the latest post :) |
| 18:06.35 | drasko | asg, did too |
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| 18:07.11 | asg | drasko: create a basic php file that contains '<?phpinfo();?>', hit it with a browser, does it indicate that mysql support exists? |
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| 18:07.28 | hdkiller | Hellow, i lack of getting 64bit Counters in snmpd. I have a gigabit ethernet card, and i want to monitor it via SNMP/mrtg |
| 18:07.47 | hdkiller | But it's warps when it's hits the 127MBit/s |
| 18:07.50 | WolfCub | There I fixed the post. |
| 18:07.56 | hdkiller | Anybody have an idea, how can i fix it? |
| 18:07.58 | ColonelPanic01 | Okay, rebooting. |
| 18:08.02 | drasko | asg, no, I checked.. I can see a section about Postgresql in there but no mysql section... |
| 18:08.05 | hdkiller | Or where should i look for more information? |
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| 18:08.16 | hdkiller | Btw, im not an expert of using snmpd |
| 18:08.28 | asg | drasko: then you don't have php4-mysql installed properly. Is this apache 1.3 or apache2? are you running woody, sarge, or sid? |
| 18:08.44 | juhov | WolfCub: okay, seems like the shell scripts hasn't been ran. run it manually, sh /root/.kde/Autostart/firewall, and try if the internet works on the laptop |
| 18:08.57 | WiFiTux | TinoW, /proc/bus/usb/devices did it... thanks... it was USB |
| 18:09.14 | darklight | ok ive tried the pager /var/log/apache/error_log thing you said...what am i supposed to do next? |
| 18:09.21 | drasko | sarge... To be exact Progeny Debian 2.0 de... I'm running apache, not apache2 |
| 18:09.39 | Xenguy | darklight: error messages are your friend ;-) |
| 18:09.41 | PerfDave | !progeny |
| 18:09.41 | dpkg | rumour has it, progeny is Debian-based GNU/Linux distribution company specializing in custom packaging. http://www.progeny.com/, or see progeny installer |
| 18:09.41 | asg | drasko: then find out why progeny broke it #progeny |
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| 18:10.15 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.42 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:10.58 | asg | darklight: diagnose the problem (actually, it's error.log, not error_log) |
| 18:11.10 | juhov | WolfCub: does iptables -L | grep -i masq print anything now? |
| 18:11.11 | asg | darklight: and also consult #apache |
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| 18:11.31 | WolfCub | Prints nothing. |
| 18:11.42 | dan2 | asg: time for philly cheese steak |
| 18:11.43 | asg | darklight: 1) do not /msg people without asking; it's rude. 2) find the error causing apache not to start. 3) fix the error. |
| 18:11.45 | drasko | asg, tahnks, I will look... |
| 18:11.54 | asg | dan2: yes, it is, though I'm off for fajitas |
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| 18:12.03 | dan2 | asg: I'd settle for that |
| 18:12.06 | juhov | WolfCub: I might be mistaken about that, how about you update that post again with what iptables -L gives now |
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| 18:12.14 | asg | dan2: yeah, I have a hankerin' ;) |
| 18:12.15 | dan2 | asg: chicken quesadillas |
| 18:12.21 | WolfCub | Ok. |
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| 18:12.45 | darklight | sorry asg..i told you i was a noob.. |
| 18:12.52 | asg | dan2: hey, hey, I'm in good shape. |
| 18:13.00 | C5Hardtop | i'm trying to build a kernel and got an error |
| 18:13.03 | WolfCub | There. |
| 18:13.04 | dan2 | asg: ok, 5'9 220lbs? |
| 18:13.11 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.12 | C5Hardtop | the command was make-kpkg buildpackage -rev Custom.1 kernel_image |
| 18:13.13 | WolfCub | It. |
| 18:13.16 | asg | dan2: no, 5'10 170lbs |
| 18:13.29 | C5Hardtop | and the error is unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' |
| 18:13.31 | dan2 | asg: that is good shape, my dad's 5'9 195 |
| 18:13.42 | asg | dan2: my cardio is crap because I don't exercise and smoke too much but, I don't look out of shape ;) |
| 18:13.44 | C5Hardtop | any ideas? |
| 18:13.46 | dan2 | asg: I'm 5'6 165 |
| 18:13.57 | asg | dan2: all muscle I expect, due to the football |
| 18:14.01 | dan2 | asg: ya |
| 18:14.02 | juhov | WolfCub: sorry, I just realized that it should have been iptables -t nat -L :) |
| 18:14.06 | WolfCub | Ok. |
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| 18:14.16 | dan2 | asg: I doubt you can say you squat 250 |
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| 18:14.37 | asg | dan2: no, I have bad knees, that would never work. |
| 18:14.58 | ik- | hi ppl, has anyone got ppp 2.4.3 in .deb ? i like to grab it :) |
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| 18:15.09 | asg | ik-: /msg dpkg pdo |
| 18:15.22 | WolfCub | Post updated. |
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| 18:15.33 | asg | dan2: well, I'm off for those fajitas, I'll catch you later. |
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| 18:16.16 | noid2 | ok im stuck why does apt-get complain when trying to install anything: E: The package libc6 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
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| 18:16.52 | dan2 | asg: wave |
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| 18:17.13 | noid2 | when i try to reinstall libc6 i get /bin/sh: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /lib/libncurses.so.5) |
| 18:17.58 | newbie | can anyone please help me with a problem I am having making xprint to work with firefox? |
| 18:18.18 | juhov | WolfCub: ok, it seems to be in order, so there's something wrong with the laptop's settings then. I'm just not sure what it might be... try running route -n for starters and see what you get |
| 18:18.27 | sander_ | Hi, I have a mangled xserver-xfree86 package stuck in my package cache. If I do 'dpkg -r xserver-xfree86' will it remove everything? |
| 18:18.47 | dvs | sander_: No, dpkg -P |
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| 18:19.14 | sander_ | dvs, so -r will just remove the one package then correct? |
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| 18:19.26 | MrOK | I want to try debian based distro Ubuntu, any suggestments ? |
| 18:19.28 | dvs | sander_: -r will NOT remove any config files |
| 18:19.29 | juhov | WolfCub: it's been a while since I last set up masquerading or indeed any network stuff, so I'm a bit slow with this :) |
| 18:19.35 | ColonelPanic01 | It is all fixed. Thanks to the people that helped. |
| 18:19.39 | ColonelPanic01 | JUst figured I'd say so |
| 18:19.41 | ColonelPanic01 | heh |
| 18:19.44 | dvs | ColonelPanic001: np |
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| 18:20.02 | sander_ | dvs, will it remove the dependencies? |
| 18:20.24 | dvs | sander_: Any packages that depend on xserver-xfree86, yes |
| 18:20.45 | dvs | !depends xserver-xfree86 woody |
| 18:20.55 | Beer_Baron | anyone can help me? |
| 18:20.58 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: depends on debconf (>> 0.5), xserver-common (>= 4.1.0-10), libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) |
| 18:20.59 | valdyn | sander_: you are looking for --force-depends? |
| 18:21.02 | WolfCub | Ok route -n generates a lot of output. |
| 18:21.02 | paulswm | MrOK: yes: /part #debian, /join #ubuntu |
| 18:21.12 | WolfCub | Do you need to know what it is? |
| 18:21.15 | dvs | oops |
| 18:21.15 | Beer_Baron | i'm tryng to install the ndiswrapper |
| 18:21.25 | juhov | WolfCub: yes, it will probably help |
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| 18:21.36 | MrOK | thanks |
| 18:21.37 | Beer_Baron | but when i run modprobe |
| 18:21.41 | WolfCub | Ok I got to go offline and put the laptop online then, be right back. |
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| 18:21.48 | Solet | i tried to start a game from X and its been locked up all night... is it ok to hard reboot or is there another solution... |
| 18:21.50 | juhov | WolfCub: unless you can spot any problems with it, of course... |
| 18:21.51 | sander_ | valdyn, I think so. Doing that will remove just the broken xserver package so I can upgrade to another hopefully working package? |
| 18:21.51 | Beer_Baron | the following message appear |
| 18:21.56 | Beer_Baron | FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-1-686/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted |
| 18:22.12 | valdyn | sander_: yea, dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xfree86 |
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| 18:22.23 | Beer_Baron | what is this? |
| 18:22.36 | juhov | Beer_Baron: you're not root? |
| 18:22.41 | Beer_Baron | yes |
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| 18:23.07 | sander_ | valdyn, but I'd have to completely reconfigure xserver then won't I? Shouldn't I just be able to -r and keep my config? |
| 18:23.22 | Beer_Baron | what can be...? |
| 18:23.44 | Beer_Baron | it seem that i dont have permission to write a file |
| 18:23.54 | Beer_Baron | but i'm root |
| 18:24.39 | Solet | whats the best way to kill a process without doing damage? |
| 18:24.54 | paulswm | Beer_Baron: just double check, what does 'whoami' say? |
| 18:24.55 | drasko | asg, purging and reinstalling mysql did the job... now I can see section for MySql in phpinfo... :) |
| 18:25.17 | Beer_Baron | say:root |
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| 18:25.33 | nvz | Solet: try ctrl-alt-backspace |
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| 18:26.23 | BlackJudas | Where can I get the deb for libncurses-dev? I just need the deb file. |
| 18:26.23 | BlackJudas | for Sarge. |
| 18:26.23 | Solet | i did that last night... and it still hasnt moved |
| 18:26.23 | Solet | i do it again... |
| 18:26.23 | Solet | no change |
| 18:26.23 | nvz | BlackJudas: apt-get install libncureses5-dev |
| 18:26.23 | rayk | how can i shut down x-server..so that i can install nvidia grafik drivers? |
| 18:26.23 | juhov | BlackJudas: apt-get --download-only libncurses-dev |
| 18:26.27 | juhov | BlackJudas: add install there too :) |
| 18:26.32 | paulswm | Beer_Baron: sorry, no idea, works for me, just wanted you to double check you *were* root :) |
| 18:26.36 | Beer_Baron | anyone can help ma |
| 18:26.37 | Solet | the busy light has been on since 3 am and its now noon or so |
| 18:26.37 | BlackJudas | nvz, sorry I'm currently on the wrong arch. |
| 18:26.58 | BlackJudas | nvz, it's for a laptop that... well the networking isn't setup until i recompile the kernel. |
| 18:27.09 | nvz | BlackJudas: I've never heard of the wrong arch :P |
| 18:27.23 | BlackJudas | nvz, I'm on amd64.. the binaries are incompatible. |
| 18:27.30 | sander_ | Ah well force-depends is what I was looking for I'll figure it out. Thanks valdyn and dvs |
| 18:27.34 | Beer_Baron | what i wrong? |
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| 18:27.45 | jetscreamer | libncurses5-dev |
| 18:27.54 | juhov | init_module(2) doesn't give other reasons for "Operation not permitted" than not being root... |
| 18:28.18 | rayk | sry got a question...how can i shut down x-server..so that i can install nvidia grafik drivers? |
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| 18:28.27 | BlackJudas | jetscreamer, yeah i tried the kernel.org mirror.. but it doesn't exist :) |
| 18:28.27 | juhov | Beer_Baron: are you really really really sure that you are root? check with "id" one more time please :) |
| 18:28.37 | TinoW | rayk: kdm/gdm/xdm? |
| 18:28.47 | takatumi | BlackJudas: packages.debian.org |
| 18:28.47 | Beer_Baron | id? |
| 18:28.58 | juhov | Beer_Baron: yes, run it |
| 18:29.22 | Beer_Baron | uid=0(root) gid=0(root) gruppi=0(root) |
| 18:29.26 | BlackJudas | takatumi, thanks. :) wow why didn't i think of that... wtf... i need sleep. |
| 18:29.43 | Beer_Baron | am i root? |
| 18:29.52 | Beer_Baron | yes. of course |
| 18:30.07 | juhov | Beer_Baron: ok, sorry, I don't know what the problem could be then |
| 18:30.20 | rayk | TinoW: yeah but how can i kill them? i tried different runlevels but thats not workin |
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| 18:30.48 | Tr0||_DX | oh gzzz i am PISS |
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| 18:31.25 | TinoW | rayk: which of these? you can /etc/init.d/kdm stop if its kdm :) |
| 18:31.41 | Tr0||_DX | i just ereased suse (that was working perfectly ) but didnt followed the adage and decided to try debian formated and now .... am fuck |
| 18:31.57 | Tr0||_DX | agpgart and my video driver wont install first |
| 18:31.58 | jetscreamer | what |
| 18:32.32 | jetscreamer | "try debian formatted"? |
| 18:32.47 | Tr0||_DX | secondly the install ncurse shit is bad .... i got all kind of network related output printing during package selection with dselect and the windows keep bugging |
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| 18:33.06 | Tr0||_DX | thats bad |
| 18:33.08 | jetscreamer | woody or d-i |
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| 18:33.11 | jetscreamer | installer |
| 18:33.13 | Tr0||_DX | woody |
| 18:33.14 | rayk | TinoW: i'm using gdm |
| 18:33.24 | jetscreamer | if not a server d-i is better |
| 18:33.30 | juhov | WolfCub: I have no idea why, but you seem to have a dialup connection up also |
| 18:33.35 | TinoW | rayk: then gdm stop in the line above |
| 18:33.40 | jetscreamer | but the woody installer rocks imo so no idea |
| 18:33.41 | Tr0||_DX | would be server and semi-workstation |
| 18:33.48 | Tr0||_DX | i got couple pc i dont care |
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| 18:33.59 | rayk | TinoW: ok thanks |
| 18:34.00 | Tr0||_DX | but problem is agpgart wont install |
| 18:34.22 | Tr0||_DX | woody installer rock |
| 18:34.24 | Tr0||_DX | your nuts |
| 18:34.27 | Tr0||_DX | it suck |
| 18:34.32 | TinoW | Tr0gd0r: you can install drivers/kernel/software later |
| 18:34.32 | Beer_Baron | how does i make to install ndiswrapper? |
| 18:34.36 | juhov | WolfCub: poff -a should terminate it, try again then, and maybe ifdown & ifup eth0 or something... apt-get --purge remove ppp if you don't even plan on using it, easiest way to get rid of it |
| 18:34.36 | jetscreamer | Tr0||_DX, 'maybe' you need an updated kernel for support |
| 18:34.47 | Tr0||_DX | network message get parsed on my pc thrue some weird ncurse bug |
| 18:34.51 | Toth | hello all |
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| 18:35.03 | Tr0||_DX | ... |
| 18:35.05 | jetscreamer | !printk |
| 18:35.05 | dpkg | it has been said that printk console is see docs for sysctl and set kernel.printk to 3 4 1 7 or so. If you want to know what those numbers mean, see the file Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt in your kernel sources. |
| 18:35.07 | TinoW | Tr0gd0r: what kind of network card do you have? |
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| 18:35.18 | jagerman | !ndiswrapper |
| 18:35.18 | dpkg | i heard ndiswrapper is evil, because if a vendor can make users use a windows driver for their product, why should they bother writing a Linux one? Don't use it, email your hardware manufacturer and ask them for a REAL Linux driver, or choose different hardware. |
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| 18:35.19 | Tr0||_DX | intel titan667 board with a i845 |
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| 18:35.37 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 18:35.40 | TinoW | Tr0gd0r: so its a standard intel ether express? |
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| 18:36.00 | Tr0||_DX | yes |
| 18:36.08 | Tr0||_DX | with a eth1 dlink |
| 18:36.17 | Tr0||_DX | and eth2 dlink too |
| 18:36.20 | TinoW | Tr0gd0r: those messages - is it coming from link going up and down? |
| 18:36.20 | Tr0||_DX | 3 card |
| 18:36.29 | Tr0||_DX | yes |
| 18:36.40 | Tr0||_DX | both |
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| 18:36.56 | TinoW | Tr0gd0r: why is the link going nuts - hup/router/switch broken? |
| 18:37.11 | Tr0||_DX | well ... |
| 18:37.21 | Tr0||_DX | it was all working ... |
| 18:37.28 | Tr0||_DX | kernel |
| 18:37.31 | jetscreamer | whf is Tr0gd0r btw TinoW |
| 18:37.32 | Tr0||_DX | damn |
| 18:37.43 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: suse uses the same driver ;) It just hides some message output |
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| 18:38.11 | TinoW | jetscreamer: nickcompleter going nuts on all these nicks here ;) |
| 18:38.14 | Tr0||_DX | well suse was booting |
| 18:38.18 | Tr0||_DX | and agp working |
| 18:38.48 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: install kernel != "all whistle and pipes anabled kernel" |
| 18:38.52 | TinoW | enabled |
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| 18:39.03 | Tr0||_DX | ... |
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| 18:39.11 | jetscreamer | what does uname -r say |
| 18:39.17 | Tr0||_DX | i need agp and i810 driver |
| 18:39.21 | Tr0||_DX | x wont boot |
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| 18:39.32 | jetscreamer | i810 is in woody |
| 18:39.40 | dogmea1 | im having a pecular problem with creating new windows (e.g. xterm). after i su root, i cannot create an xterm on console. msg 'Can't open display: %s'. if i xhost + i can, but i dont want to xhost +. any ideas how to fix? my display is set :0.0 |
| 18:39.47 | Tr0||_DX | well doesnt work on i845gv |
| 18:39.52 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: then install it for gods sake ;) If your system is up (you dont need gfx for that) you install a new kernel and there you go |
| 18:39.52 | Goldfisch2 | Is it ntpdate or ntp-server, that on shutdown, is supposed to backup the synchronized clock into the HW clok? |
| 18:39.53 | jetscreamer | you don't 'have' to have agp loaded (i could be worng but i think not) |
| 18:40.01 | juhov | dogmea1: install "sux" and use it instead of su |
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| 18:40.17 | Tr0||_DX | huh |
| 18:40.26 | Tr0||_DX | ... |
| 18:40.36 | Tr0||_DX | and one dlink doesnt work |
| 18:40.47 | Tr0||_DX | why cant i use 3 net card |
| 18:40.49 | abrotman | Tr0||_DX: woody won't work with that card |
| 18:40.55 | WolfCub | The laptops still now gettin on the net :/ |
| 18:40.55 | abrotman | your intel i mean |
| 18:40.59 | WolfCub | This is unbelievable. |
| 18:41.01 | jagerman | dogmea1: When you su, are both DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY still set? |
| 18:41.04 | Tr0||_DX | i know why |
| 18:41.05 | TinoW | Tr0gd0r: you can use 1000 cards if your board support them :) |
| 18:41.10 | Tr0||_DX | what do i need |
| 18:41.14 | abrotman | Tr0||_DX: because the X is too old |
| 18:41.22 | Tr0||_DX | can i use xorg |
| 18:41.23 | abrotman | !info xserver-xfree86 woody |
| 18:41.24 | dogmea1 | i didnt do anything ith XAUTHORITY |
| 18:41.26 | Tr0||_DX | xfree suck |
| 18:41.27 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.1.0-16woody5 (woody), Packaged size: 4234 kB, Installed size: 12228 kB |
| 18:41.32 | juhov | dogmea1: just use sux and it will work |
| 18:41.33 | abrotman | Tr0||_DX: don't ask us how |
| 18:41.39 | abrotman | Tr0||_DX: is it a server? |
| 18:41.46 | paulswm | Goldfisch2: hwclock does it |
| 18:41.46 | TinoW | dogmea1: try: ln -fs /home/youruser/.Xauthority /root/ |
| 18:41.47 | Tr0||_DX | dah |
| 18:41.53 | jetscreamer | he said it was a server |
| 18:41.54 | abrotman | well .. then don't run X on a server |
| 18:41.57 | dogmea1 | TinoW: thanks |
| 18:41.58 | Tr0||_DX | xfree is retarded |
| 18:42.04 | abrotman | problem solved |
| 18:42.10 | Tr0||_DX | all distro have moved to xorg |
| 18:42.10 | abrotman | no .. X on a server is retarded |
| 18:42.29 | Tr0||_DX | i got 6 other pc in mosix |
| 18:42.32 | paulswm | Goldfisch2: And of the two you mentioned, it should be the client (ntpdate) |
| 18:42.40 | TinoW | abrotman: yeah, I switched to Z now on the server and it flies ;) |
| 18:42.46 | abrotman | heh |
| 18:42.50 | Tr0||_DX | .... |
| 18:42.58 | dogmea1 | TinoW: thanks that worked |
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| 18:43.04 | jagerman | You do know that xorg is a fork of xfree, right? |
| 18:43.11 | Tr0||_DX | i need this pc with x god damn ... its my quake 2 engine |
| 18:43.19 | Tr0||_DX | i do |
| 18:43.19 | jagerman | So, if xfree is retarded, xorg has have inherited that retardedness |
| 18:43.20 | dogmea1 | juhov: i didnt see sux in apt-cache search |
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| 18:43.25 | abrotman | why does a quake server need X ? |
| 18:43.27 | Tr0||_DX | but xfree is unmaintened now |
| 18:43.32 | Tr0||_DX | ... |
| 18:43.37 | Tr0||_DX | to play quake |
| 18:43.37 | Goldfisch2 | Everytime I reboot, the clock is messed up. Because I have a usb network device and can't plug it in until late in the game, ntpdate fails, and this messes up ntp-server. HW clock isn't getting updated. |
| 18:43.39 | jagerman | Yes, but Debian's xfree is not |
| 18:43.41 | Tr0||_DX | not a quake server |
| 18:43.47 | darklight | how do i get to the bottom of my error log quickly? |
| 18:43.50 | darklight | :)) |
| 18:43.53 | abrotman | servers don't play quake |
| 18:43.58 | abrotman | servers don't run X |
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| 18:44.04 | Tr0||_DX | well debian xfree wont work on my card so it is as much retarded |
| 18:44.06 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: which kernel (uname -r) do you have after install? |
| 18:44.08 | elirips | darklight: tail |
| 18:44.10 | juhov | dogmea1: oh, it's woody then? |
| 18:44.12 | abrotman | Tr0gd0r: or you're retarded ? |
| 18:44.20 | Tr0||_DX | i got other ppc for server you dumb .... |
| 18:44.28 | dogmea1 | juhov: yeah .. gonna update to sarge soon |
| 18:44.37 | Tr0||_DX | this is the only pc with a graphic card more than 4 mb |
| 18:44.41 | Tr0||_DX | i wanna use it |
| 18:44.47 | abrotman | is it a pc or a server? |
| 18:44.50 | abrotman | make up your damn mind |
| 18:44.55 | jetscreamer | both |
| 18:44.58 | swoop | what's the alias to get dpkg to tell me about kernel compiling, the full part |
| 18:45.01 | swoop | not the little message |
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| 18:45.08 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.09 | Tr0||_DX | its both |
| 18:45.14 | Tr0||_DX | both its my admin term |
| 18:45.16 | TinoW | abrotman: he said server and quake-workstation |
| 18:45.21 | TinoW | semi server |
| 18:45.21 | Tr0||_DX | and now its down .... |
| 18:45.22 | abrotman | servers don't play quake |
| 18:45.25 | jetscreamer | !tell swoop about kp |
| 18:45.28 | jetscreamer | that one? |
| 18:45.41 | jagerman | Well, obviously it's only a server when not playing Quake ;) |
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| 18:45.49 | Tr0||_DX | oh got damn |
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| 18:45.55 | abrotman | i got damn! |
| 18:46.11 | Tr0||_DX | how can i make it work ... |
| 18:46.14 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: so, which kernel version do you have after you installed stock woody? |
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| 18:46.21 | Tr0||_DX | i2.2.4 |
| 18:46.22 | asuffield | abrotman: well then keep it to yourself, we don't want to catch it |
| 18:46.27 | Tr0||_DX | 686 |
| 18:46.30 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: well, thats _way_ old |
| 18:46.35 | Tr0||_DX | i know |
| 18:46.39 | Tr0||_DX | i know |
| 18:46.43 | TinoW | Tr0gd0r: apt-cache search kernel-image- |
| 18:46.44 | Tr0||_DX | its retarded |
| 18:46.44 | swoop | jetscreamer: yeah, I was trying to remember it, but couldn't remember |
| 18:46.56 | Tr0||_DX | whats the latest |
| 18:46.57 | abrotman | 2.2.4? |
| 18:46.59 | jetscreamer | !real kernel |
| 18:46.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, real kernel is The Debian install kernels are meant for just that: installing. If you want things like wide module support and netfilter, install a proper kernel. 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386' will see you through, if you have no idea. something you should compile yourself for maximum performance First though, do apt-cache search kernel-image- . woody install kernels have several known vulnerabilities, including local roots & remote Do |
| 18:47.06 | Tr0||_DX | lol< |
| 18:47.06 | jetscreamer | oh yeah old factoid |
| 18:47.07 | Tr0||_DX | lol |
| 18:47.09 | Tr0||_DX | thanks |
| 18:47.11 | abrotman | there is no way a debian box of any recent install age uses 2.2.4 |
| 18:47.12 | Tr0||_DX | it answrert |
| 18:47.14 | Tr0||_DX | lol |
| 18:47.16 | Tr0||_DX | lol |
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| 18:47.29 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search kernel-image Tr0||_DX |
| 18:47.30 | TinoW | has |
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| 18:47.38 | Tr0||_DX | muhaha the bot is nice |
| 18:47.47 | jetscreamer | !find kernel-image woody |
| 18:47.49 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'kernel-image' (12 shown; 18 total): kernel-image-2.2.20 ;; kernel-image-2.2.20-compact ;; kernel-image-2.2.20-idepci ;; kernel-image-2.2.20-reiserfs ;; kernel-image-2.4.16-386 ;; kernel-image-2.4.16-586 ;; kernel-image-2.4.16-586tsc ;; kernel-image-2.4.16-686 ;; kernel-image-2.4.16-686-smp ;; kernel-image-2.4.16-k6 ;; kernel-image-2.4.16-k7 ;; kernel-image-2.4.18-386. |
| 18:47.53 | jagerman | "muhaha"? What did you do to the bot!? |
| 18:47.59 | Tr0||_DX | i had 2.6.11 |
| 18:48.00 | Tr0||_DX | lol |
| 18:48.09 | chealer | !tell Tr0||_DX about enter |
| 18:48.11 | Tr0||_DX | those suck |
| 18:48.18 | Tr0||_DX | i need the 2.6 range |
| 18:48.18 | jetscreamer | hell the way you talk, just go sarge |
| 18:48.23 | Tr0||_DX | availlable |
| 18:48.32 | Tr0||_DX | sarge ... |
| 18:48.34 | jetscreamer | !woody->sarge |
| 18:48.41 | abrotman | jetscreamer: doesn't work |
| 18:48.44 | Tr0||_DX | did i just dlded 7 cd for nothing |
| 18:48.44 | jetscreamer | o |
| 18:48.49 | daffy-pkf | can someone help me please ? i'm trying to compile fglrx module but it tells me that: |
| 18:48.55 | jetscreamer | yes you did, esp when you only needed one |
| 18:48.55 | daffy-pkf | kernel includes at /lib/modules/2.6.10-1-k7/build/include do not match current kernel. |
| 18:48.55 | daffy-pkf | they are versioned as "2.6.10" |
| 18:48.55 | daffy-pkf | instead of "2.6.10-1-k7". |
| 18:48.57 | abrotman | Tr0||_DX: maybe next time you'll read the install guide |
| 18:48.58 | Toth | or woody -> testing ? |
| 18:49.10 | abrotman | no .. sarge |
| 18:49.11 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and put "un" in front of the stable entries, then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade :-) |
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| 18:49.29 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: this way you get all bleeding edge :) |
| 18:49.29 | Tr0||_DX | ... |
| 18:49.33 | Tr0||_DX | k |
| 18:49.36 | daffy-pkf | /lib/modules/2.6.10-1-k7/build/ is a simlink tu /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.10 |
| 18:49.37 | paulswm | TinoW: apparently that is broken right now |
| 18:49.41 | jetscreamer | i'd go sarge not sid |
| 18:49.44 | abrotman | TinoW: fucking christ don't tell him that you idiot |
| 18:49.53 | paulswm | Whhops, you said unstable |
| 18:49.55 | TinoW | abrotman: hey, stay nice, yes? |
| 18:49.56 | Tr0||_DX | holy crappy crap |
| 18:49.59 | paulswm | @lart TinoW |
| 18:50.08 | abrotman | TinoW: don't ever tell a complete idiot to go to sid |
| 18:50.09 | Tr0||_DX | 7cd ..... |
| 18:50.17 | Tr0||_DX | fuck you |
| 18:50.20 | jetscreamer | you only needed cd#1 Tr0||_DX |
| 18:50.21 | abrotman | yay |
| 18:50.23 | abrotman | i got fucked |
| 18:50.23 | Tr0||_DX | you dumb bitch |
| 18:50.26 | TinoW | CD? |
| 18:50.26 | Toth | testing doesn't work |
| 18:50.31 | Toth | ? |
| 18:50.35 | Tr0||_DX | ... |
| 18:50.36 | jetscreamer | testing works |
| 18:50.39 | chealer | !nickometer Tr0||_DX |
| 18:50.39 | dpkg | 'Tr0||_DX' is 99.750% lame, chealer |
| 18:50.44 | abrotman | Toth: there's a difference between tracking sarge and testing |
| 18:50.49 | Tr0||_DX | stable doesnt even work imagine testing |
| 18:50.53 | chealer | eh there's only 0.25% missing |
| 18:50.56 | Tr0||_DX | yeah |
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| 18:51.15 | dafen | anyone tried to use an old computer to act like a wireless router? |
| 18:51.21 | jetscreamer | actually you should have installed with d-i to begin with, given what you say you do |
| 18:51.29 | dafen | how's the performance comparing to some commecial router? |
| 18:51.40 | jetscreamer | !tell Tr0||_DX about d-i |
| 18:51.41 | abrotman | dafen: ask #wireless |
| 18:51.47 | TinoW | dafen: better but usually it makes more noise |
| 18:51.57 | dafen | better? |
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| 18:52.03 | Tr0||_DX | damn |
| 18:52.14 | dafen | I think WEP consumes awfully a lot CPU |
| 18:52.15 | TinoW | dafen: better. |
| 18:52.24 | jetscreamer | only 110 megs or 56m depending |
| 18:52.34 | abrotman | use the 110mb |
| 18:52.44 | dafen | how could an old computer be able to encrypt every single package in terms of WEP? |
| 18:52.56 | daffy-pkf | can't someone help me please? that thing is starting to stress me very much... |
| 18:53.07 | davi | What must I do to use SSL and apache 2.0.x?. There is not an apache2-ssl package, as the apache-ssl of the 1.3.x version. |
| 18:53.12 | TinoW | dafen: what do you think is inside a commercial router? :) |
| 18:53.23 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.24 | TinoW | dafen: usually the card does a lot of the processing |
| 18:53.26 | abrotman | daffy-pkf: uname -r |
| 18:53.30 | dafen | I've heard they are embeged system designed much better performance |
| 18:53.38 | daffy-pkf | abrotman> 2.6.10-1-k7 |
| 18:53.43 | dafen | eventhough their cpu is like 40mhz |
| 18:53.50 | abrotman | dafen: different arch |
| 18:53.51 | dafen | TinoW, you sure? |
| 18:53.55 | abrotman | dafen: mhz myth |
| 18:53.55 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 18:54.03 | TinoW | dafen: sure, but not the cheap routers you grab at the supermarket |
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| 18:54.13 | Tr0||_DX | fucking crap wtf |
| 18:54.14 | abrotman | they sell routers at your supermarket ? |
| 18:54.16 | Tr0||_DX | 15cd |
| 18:54.16 | dafen | coz I will either buy a netgear wifi router , or build one based on my old celeron 466 |
| 18:54.16 | jetscreamer | daffy-pkf, apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` |
| 18:54.19 | Tr0||_DX | wtf is that |
| 18:54.24 | TinoW | abrotman: yes they do |
| 18:54.27 | Tr0||_DX | does it include source |
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| 18:54.33 | daffy-pkf | jetscreamer> already done |
| 18:54.37 | jetscreamer | 15 cd's? |
| 18:54.38 | thingfish | abrotman: yes, right next to the rutabagas. |
| 18:54.38 | abrotman | Tr0||_DX: use the god fucking damn 110MB netinst image .. like you've been told |
| 18:54.53 | Tr0||_DX | i want the fucking thing on a hard thing |
| 18:55.06 | PerfDave | You can do things with a box that you can't do (easily) with an embedded router, like IPSec |
| 18:55.13 | Tr0||_DX | you know like cd ... |
| 18:55.15 | jetscreamer | daffy-pkf, ah... do ls /usr/src ... you need to use the directory with the -1-k7, not the other |
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| 18:55.27 | TinoW | PerfDave: yes, and change config without reboot :) |
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| 18:55.46 | abrotman | Tr0||_DX: you could get the 3 dvds |
| 18:55.54 | Tr0||_DX | does that 15 cd include source |
| 18:56.04 | abrotman | no |
| 18:56.05 | jetscreamer | wtf do yu want with 15cd's |
| 18:56.12 | daffy-pkf | jetscreamer> yopu mean the linux link? |
| 18:56.16 | abrotman | jetscreamer: i don't think he knows |
| 18:56.27 | TinoW | 15 CDs? they probably get old while you are downloading ;) |
| 18:56.36 | Tr0||_DX | lol |
| 18:56.38 | abrotman | iirc .. those 15CDs are already outdated |
| 18:56.50 | Tr0||_DX | well |
| 18:57.00 | abrotman | they are 5 days old now |
| 18:57.04 | abrotman | only generated weekl |
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| 18:57.05 | abrotman | y |
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| 18:57.45 | jetscreamer | daffy-pkf, i'm not about to tell you to do anything to the link because i don't know anything about it. but if you look in /usr/src you will see that there are 2 diff kernel header dirs' for that kernel. one contains patches (i believe) and the other is the stock/base (to be patchified). one works, the other doesn't. |
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| 18:58.36 | daffy-pkf | jetscreamer> what should i do? removing the one wich is not -1-k7? |
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| 18:58.47 | jetscreamer | you don't hav eot patch it or anything, it's already done. you just need to reference the correct one. no don't remove |
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| 18:59.24 | jetscreamer | if it was me, i'd be changing the symlink (after backing it up) but i dunno |
| 18:59.41 | daffy-pkf | jetscreamer> what do you mean by "reference"? |
| 18:59.49 | jetscreamer | fefer to |
| 18:59.53 | jetscreamer | refer |
| 18:59.59 | Tr0||_DX | oh damn |
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| 19:00.20 | daffy-pkf | yes i know, but does this mean ther is a simlink to it somewhere? |
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| 19:00.49 | Tr0||_DX | debian is better be good |
| 19:00.57 | jetscreamer | this might be one of those infrequent 'yeah it needs full source not just the headers' things, too |
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| 19:00.59 | Tr0||_DX | suse was very very stable |
| 19:01.12 | thingfish | debian is as good as linux gets. |
| 19:01.24 | Tr0||_DX | i will keep it on the postgres server for sure |
| 19:01.34 | Tr0||_DX | suse i mean |
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| 19:01.48 | Tr0||_DX | am sure debian lack stablility |
| 19:01.51 | daffy-pkf | jetscreamer> i apt-get kernel-image-2.6.10-1-k7 kernel-headers-2.6.10-1-k7 kernel-source-2.6.10 |
| 19:01.56 | jetscreamer | you might have to either create a symlink, or change the script.. i dunno. and i don't do ati so i know even less |
| 19:01.57 | Tr0||_DX | from what i seen so far ... |
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| 19:02.22 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: for sure not. |
| 19:02.27 | jetscreamer | the kernel-source, you will have to untar and compile a kernel. |
| 19:02.57 | LuCkYaN | anyone know an program to show me statistics about my web page ??? |
| 19:03.09 | chealer | TinoW: you don't want to keep that troll here, right? |
| 19:03.12 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: with debian you can have good-old-stable (woody) or bleeding-edge or anything between |
| 19:03.18 | TinoW | chealer: oh no ;) |
| 19:03.20 | daffy-pkf | jetscreamer> i untar, but did not compile, i cp the config from /boot to .config, and the make-kpkg... old |
| 19:03.34 | Tr0||_DX | woody might be stable but wont work |
| 19:03.41 | frankster | anybody have a problem with gnome (testing) where after a while a lot of it stops working - often after i've had to force quit an application. and even if I restart the x server I cant log back in unless I slay all my processes? |
| 19:03.50 | Tr0||_DX | 2.4 is retard should at least be 2.6 |
| 19:03.53 | frankster | all the windows just freeze up |
| 19:03.57 | Tr0||_DX | even i lower minor |
| 19:04.09 | Tr0||_DX | if* |
| 19:04.11 | TinoW | Tr0gd0r: well, you can always build your own kernel even with/for woody |
| 19:04.18 | daffy-pkf | should /usr/include be a simlink to the right directory in /usr/src? |
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| 19:04.25 | Tr0||_DX | that will break |
| 19:04.32 | PerfDave | Tr0||_DX is certainly living up to his name. |
| 19:04.34 | Tr0||_DX | and crappier than fc |
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| 19:04.45 | thingfish | boy isn't that the truth PerfDave |
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| 19:04.58 | PerfDave | Tr0||_DX: Run off and use FC then. |
| 19:05.05 | Tr0||_DX | ... |
| 19:05.06 | TinoW | Tr0||_DX: you seem to know everything better - so why do you ask people? |
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| 19:05.14 | Tr0||_DX | cuz ... |
| 19:05.15 | jetscreamer | daffy-pkf, yeah that's compiling :) but, you didn't have to cp the .config, uname -r's config is automagically sucked in |
| 19:05.23 | jetscreamer | but whatever |
| 19:05.26 | Tr0||_DX | i wanna know what normal human got in their head |
| 19:05.41 | jetscreamer | bugger off |
| 19:05.42 | mxdrunk | AMD |
| 19:05.50 | LuCkYaN | anyone know an program to show me statistics about my web page ?????? |
| 19:06.02 | jetscreamer | webalyzer or something |
| 19:06.03 | Tr0||_DX | webalyser |
| 19:06.05 | Tr0||_DX | lol |
| 19:06.08 | Tr0||_DX | same time |
| 19:06.17 | jetscreamer | you're 2 seconds slower |
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| 19:06.21 | Tr0||_DX | ... |
| 19:06.24 | Tr0||_DX | was typing |
| 19:06.28 | Tr0||_DX | damn you |
| 19:06.34 | LuCkYaN | rrdtool is good ? |
| 19:06.35 | the_real_maniac | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.36 | thingfish | I think we have a pre-teen here. |
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| 19:06.48 | chealer | webalyzer doesn't seem to be in debian though |
| 19:06.56 | Tr0||_DX | it is |
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| 19:07.10 | chealer | oh yeah? what's the package name? |
| 19:07.16 | Tr0||_DX | .. |
| 19:07.18 | jetscreamer | !find webalyzer |
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| 19:07.31 | Tr0||_DX | dunno saw it last night scrolling thru all that shit |
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| 19:07.36 | nomed^ | hi |
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| 19:07.40 | Kvant | !find webalizer |
| 19:07.42 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'webalizer' (2 shown): webalizer ;; webmin-webalizer. |
| 19:07.43 | Tr0||_DX | was in suse i guess |
| 19:07.43 | TinoW | LuCkYaN: grep -c can be used too :) |
| 19:07.45 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'webalyzer' returned no results. |
| 19:07.45 | njan | thingfish, give him credit, he's probably at least 13 :p |
| 19:07.47 | Tr0||_DX | there |
| 19:07.54 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 19:07.54 | thingfish | njan: hehe |
| 19:07.58 | Tr0||_DX | right |
| 19:07.59 | frankster | LuCkYaN: also analog |
| 19:08.06 | LuCkYaN | analog ? |
| 19:08.09 | LuCkYaN | what's that ? |
| 19:08.09 | jetscreamer | ahh i can't spell |
| 19:08.10 | Tr0||_DX | hey piss off < |
| 19:08.24 | Tr0||_DX | i just dled 7 cd burned hem and spend 3 hour installing |
| 19:08.25 | frankster | LuCkYaN: a web stats app |
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| 19:08.29 | Tr0||_DX | am piss and i hate you |
| 19:08.34 | jetscreamer | tst, should read the docs first |
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| 19:08.37 | jetscreamer | tsk even |
| 19:08.39 | LuCkYaN | frankster, analog - analyzes logfiles from web servers |
| 19:09.02 | Tr0||_DX | i read the log |
| 19:09.11 | Tr0||_DX | the french page is fucking outdated |
| 19:09.15 | Tr0||_DX | so stfu |
| 19:09.16 | frankster | LuCkYaN: what sort of stats are you after |
| 19:09.23 | Tr0||_DX | the doc |
| 19:09.30 | thingfish | oh look folks, he's sweet-natured, to boot. |
| 19:09.46 | Tr0||_DX | omfg |
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| 19:09.52 | Tr0||_DX | your suck an ass hole |
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| 19:09.59 | jagerman | huh? |
| 19:10.29 | nomed^ | i would use this "xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefault" rule each time i start x with gdm... where should i add this? |
| 19:10.31 | El_Presidente | hello maybe someone can help me with a pcmica problem? yenta disables irq 11 and my wlan card does not work its good explained here this user has the same problem as i have |
| 19:10.32 | El_Presidente | http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-pcmcia/2005-January/001396.html |
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| 19:11.01 | Tr0||_DX | fucking thing |
| 19:11.23 | Tr0||_DX | you know am piss |
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| 19:11.46 | chealer | Tr0||_DX: send the CDs back, leave the channel, and you'll be refund |
| 19:11.54 | thingfish | hehe |
| 19:11.55 | Tr0||_DX | and thats all your fault yes you the debian community for making unclear web page and |
| 19:12.19 | thingfish | BORing |
| 19:12.28 | chealer | Tr0||_DX: learn english or just translate the page yourself |
| 19:12.29 | Tr0||_DX | you made me waste bandwidth |
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| 19:12.34 | Tr0||_DX | both your and mine |
| 19:12.45 | frankster | anybody have a problem with gnome(testing) locking up after a time where new apps won't start and the panel buttons don't work? |
| 19:12.57 | El_Presidente | well stop listening to him maybe you could focus your power on my problem ( :-D ) |
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| 19:13.03 | jetscreamer | hey speaking of, how do you call the grub boot-floppy script |
| 19:13.08 | jetscreamer | to create one |
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| 19:15.02 | chealer | wow, what a jerk I'll be missing |
| 19:15.07 | itzzan | I've a question, the Debian Team, sends to my house Debian CDs?? Free? |
| 19:15.14 | jetscreamer | no |
| 19:15.29 | itzzan | ok :)) |
| 19:15.34 | itzzan | thank you |
| 19:15.37 | jetscreamer | a local computer shop could burn you some though |
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| 19:15.45 | thingfish | that's what happens when kids don't take their ritalin. |
| 19:16.09 | paulswm | thingfish: the Tr0ll person you mean? |
| 19:16.13 | itzzan | jetscreamer: the future is Debian Testing |
| 19:16.16 | jetscreamer | and there are cd's for sale at low prices (9.95 maybe) |
| 19:16.17 | thingfish | hehe yes paulswm |
| 19:16.34 | jetscreamer | itzzan, jsut d/l the boot-floppies then |
| 19:16.41 | itzzan | ;-) |
| 19:16.46 | itzzan | thx, bye =) |
| 19:16.51 | El_Presidente | El_Presidente could plz someone can help me with a pcmica problem? yenta disables irq 11 and my wlan card does not work its good explained here this user has the same problem as i have |
| 19:16.51 | El_Presidente | http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-pcmcia/2005-January/001396.html |
| 19:16.59 | El_Presidente | -can :) |
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| 19:17.27 | paulswm | thingfish: the things you see when you don't have a shotgun |
| 19:17.38 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 19:18.16 | paulswm | He's on his way to an early stress related death |
| 19:18.21 | thingfish | he's just a lost little lamb. |
| 19:18.36 | paulswm | No, lambs are fwuffy and cute |
| 19:18.40 | thingfish | that needs a good whacking. |
| 19:18.44 | paulswm | Heh |
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| 19:18.47 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.54 | chealer | paulswm: hahaha |
| 19:18.55 | WolfCub | Now, how do I share files? |
| 19:19.00 | jetscreamer | ?? Can't find /lib/grub/*-*/stage1, aborting |
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| 19:19.07 | paulswm | Oh, and lambs taste really good too |
| 19:19.13 | thingfish | yes they do! |
| 19:19.23 | thingfish | <drool> |
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| 19:20.29 | chealer | WolfCub: ftp, apache, kpf, whatever when you don't ask for anything more precise |
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| 19:20.44 | jetscreamer | okie wtf |
| 19:20.47 | jetscreamer | anybody? |
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| 19:21.27 | WolfCub | No I think I need NFS????? I want to share /root/ on the laptop and desktop. |
| 19:21.29 | juhov | WolfCub: glad you got it working, what was the problem after all? |
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| 19:21.47 | WolfCub | Check my post, it was about eth0, eth1, and ppp0 |
| 19:21.57 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:22.05 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:22.21 | TinoW | WolfCub: maybe you want to look at coda too |
| 19:22.21 | chealer | WolfCub: NFS can work |
| 19:22.27 | WolfCub | Ok... |
| 19:22.34 | jetscreamer | shfs is an alternative to nfs |
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| 19:22.50 | WolfCub | Does NFS integrate easily into KDE so I can browse files from Konqueror? |
| 19:23.05 | juhov | WolfCub: I don't understand why it works with those modifications, but whatever, if it does, great :) |
| 19:23.08 | jetscreamer | kde likes amanda or something.. lisa... |
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| 19:23.16 | jetscreamer | mary alice |
| 19:23.17 | WolfCub | Lol I know eh juhov. |
| 19:23.19 | WolfCub | Odd. |
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| 19:23.24 | PerfDave | WolfCub: NFS is integrated into your filesystem. It doesn't matter what desktop you're using. |
| 19:23.24 | jetscreamer | !lisa |
| 19:23.24 | dpkg | somebody said lisa was the Linux Installation and System Administration tool used in Caldera. NOT the Linux Installation and System Administration tool used in Caldera, its that thing that does that network stuff in KDE that no one can figure what it does. |
| 19:23.34 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 19:23.39 | koloqrilizm | Does anyone know if a 2.6.10 kernel source debian package is available? |
| 19:23.45 | jetscreamer | yes it is |
| 19:23.52 | WolfCub | So, how do I get NFS working? |
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| 19:24.11 | jetscreamer | it's in sid not sarge, koloqrilizm , iirc |
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| 19:24.27 | paulswm | heh, 'cunstom' I made up a useful word |
| 19:24.29 | koloqrilizm | jetscreamer, how do i get it? apt-get -t unstable install kernel-source-2.6.10 doesnt work |
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| 19:24.36 | WolfCub | What do I need to install for NFS? how do I set it up? |
| 19:24.44 | koloqrilizm | jetscreamer, actually i'm using ubuntu too |
| 19:24.57 | jetscreamer | WolfCub, tldp.org, there's a file in /usr/share/doc also |
| 19:25.07 | paulswm | Aargh |
| 19:25.08 | WolfCub | Ok ill take a look... |
| 19:25.17 | paulswm | !knoppixbadger |
| 19:25.32 | paulswm | oh well |
| 19:25.40 | jetscreamer | koloqrilizm, try apt-cache search kernel-source-2.6.10 .. i assume your sources say sid |
| 19:25.51 | Ghostbuster | hello all |
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| 19:26.06 | jetscreamer | the apt-get install kernel-source-blah |
| 19:26.09 | PerfDave | WolfCub: If you want to provide an NFS server, you need nfs-user-server or nfs-kernel-server, and portmap. NFS clients just need portmap. |
| 19:26.22 | TinoW | WolfCub: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/index.html |
| 19:26.38 | jetscreamer | nfs clients like rpc.statd and .lockd iirc |
| 19:26.38 | koloqrilizm | jetscreamer, the command returned nothing |
| 19:26.49 | jetscreamer | hmmm what do your sources say? |
| 19:26.59 | koloqrilizm | how do i check? |
| 19:27.20 | paulswm | koloqrilizm: cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:27.23 | jetscreamer | you could just go to http://packages.debian.org/ , dl the .deb and dpkg -i it , but less /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:27.28 | jetscreamer | or what he said |
| 19:27.58 | paulswm | jetscreamer: koloqrilizm is running ubuntu, not sure what difference that may make |
| 19:28.14 | paulswm | !badgerknoppix |
| 19:28.14 | dpkg | Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix Ubuntu Ubuntu Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix A MEPIS! A MEPIS! |
| 19:28.22 | koloqrilizm | i'm pretty sure it will still work |
| 19:28.25 | PerfDave | koloqrilizm: You may want to ask #ubuntu if you're running ubuntu. Since it's not Debian and has different repositories. |
| 19:28.35 | WolfCub | Ok to access the laptop's /root/ I add "/root 192.168.0.1(rw)" to /etc/exports? |
| 19:28.36 | jetscreamer | well if he is and he gets debian advice and it breaks should i feel bad? :) |
| 19:28.36 | paulswm | koloqrilizm: /topic |
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| 19:28.41 | jetscreamer | but yeah it should work |
| 19:28.54 | WolfCub | ? |
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| 19:29.03 | jetscreamer | WolfCub, that would share /root over nfs |
| 19:29.10 | koloqrilizm | jetscreamer, I see what you're talking about in sources, right now i have only the ubuntu universe enabled so thats why |
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| 19:29.13 | WolfCub | My root or the laptop's root? |
| 19:29.21 | paulswm | WolfCub: suggest you carefully study the man pages |
| 19:29.24 | koloqrilizm | it would be easier for me to download the package from debian i think anyway |
| 19:29.27 | WolfCub | Do I have to add that to the laptop too? |
| 19:29.36 | jetscreamer | you need to read the howto |
| 19:29.41 | PerfDave | koloqrilizm: I wouldn't mix Debian and Ubuntu sources, because you'll end up fucking everything up. |
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| 19:29.45 | WolfCub | The how to is confusing. |
| 19:29.50 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 19:29.56 | PerfDave | koloqrilizm: Ask #ubuntu about your kernel problem. You're not running Debian. |
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| 19:30.29 | koloqrilizm | will do, thanks for your helps |
| 19:30.33 | jetscreamer | koloqrilizm, keep in mind that if you get debian advice, and it breaks, you get to keep both pieces |
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| 19:30.37 | WolfCub | It says I can skip hosts.allow and hosts.deny if I'm not woried about security, is that true? |
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| 19:30.50 | jetscreamer | does it say it? |
| 19:30.59 | njan | koloqrilizm, jetscreamer's right; if you want advice on ubuntu, ask #ubuntu :) |
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| 19:31.05 | jetscreamer | it also says they don't know of such a box |
| 19:32.09 | jetscreamer | !test |
| 19:32.10 | dpkg | Yes, jetscreamer, you're still online. |
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| 19:32.25 | Ghostbuster | hello |
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| 19:32.34 | jetscreamer | i hate getting tangled up in my kb's cord and having it crash to the ground :/ |
| 19:32.37 | paulswm | thingfish: It's a shame that greycat wasn't around when that Tr0ll person was, that would have made entertaining IRC |
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| 19:32.49 | thingfish | paulswm: yes it would have. |
| 19:32.52 | WolfCub | Ok I did what it said, now I'm on starting the daemons, and rpc.rquotad wont start because I don't have it... where do I get it or do I need it? |
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| 19:33.13 | PerfDave | You don't need quotad unless you want to enforce quotas. |
| 19:33.17 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 19:33.21 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.28 | jetscreamer | right |
| 19:34.17 | jetscreamer | all my boxes have fw's, i need a central fw box |
| 19:34.57 | WolfCub | Ok there, I got nfs server going.... |
| 19:34.58 | jetscreamer | how many nics do you need in such a box |
| 19:35.00 | WolfCub | Now onto the cleint. |
| 19:35.09 | jetscreamer | >1? |
| 19:35.21 | paulswm | jetscreamer: better than getting tangled up in the cord and having *you* crash to the ground :) |
| 19:36.16 | jetscreamer | i have a k6-2 available i could run headless |
| 19:36.21 | basti | what is the tar command tp extract tar.gz? |
| 19:36.29 | cat | basti: tar zxvf tar.gz |
| 19:36.32 | paulswm | basti: tar x... |
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| 19:36.43 | abrotman | tar -zxf |
| 19:36.46 | paulswm | crap |
| 19:36.51 | jetscreamer | cat that's not bzip? |
| 19:36.56 | basti | thanks |
| 19:36.58 | cat | nop |
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| 19:37.06 | jetscreamer | ah j i forget |
| 19:37.06 | paulswm | I need to hit keys harder |
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| 19:37.15 | cat | lol |
| 19:37.44 | jetscreamer | z is gz j is bzip |
| 19:38.11 | cat | i always extract like that |
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| 19:39.22 | WolfCub | What packages do I need for the nfs client? just nfs-common? |
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| 19:40.32 | PerfDave | WolfCub: Just portmap |
| 19:40.43 | WolfCub | Ok. |
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| 19:40.51 | WolfCub | Do I need any kernel modules/ |
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| 19:41.06 | WolfCub | It says to look in /proc/filesystems. |
| 19:41.12 | WolfCub | And nfs isn't in mine. |
| 19:41.20 | WolfCub | Will it work anyway? |
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| 19:41.50 | PerfDave | if you're using stock Debian kernels, it should jsut work |
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| 19:42.44 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 19:42.49 | will | hi, I am having trouble booting from a cd of the sarge netinst ia64, the checksums are ok but my system won't boot from it. Any ideas? |
| 19:43.09 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.09 | abrotman | check your bios ? |
| 19:43.19 | WolfCub | How do I mount it? |
| 19:43.30 | TinoW | WolfCub: did you read the howto? |
| 19:43.34 | Maulkin | will: What do you mean by 'Won't boot'? Will it get as far as reading the CD? |
| 19:43.35 | WolfCub | Yeah. |
| 19:43.50 | TinoW | WolfCub: look into /etc/hosts.allow and stuff |
| 19:43.52 | abrotman | will: what kind of machine do you have? |
| 19:43.57 | will | well i can boot from a 64 Ubuntu cd |
| 19:43.58 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 19:44.25 | abrotman | will: and that's why it doesn't damn work |
| 19:44.34 | abrotman | will: you have an amd64 machine right? |
| 19:44.35 | will | it says reading cd... and sits there |
| 19:44.38 | abrotman | !ia64 |
| 19:44.38 | dpkg | it has been said that ia64 is the new Intel Architeture which seems pretty cool. or ages behind rs64-II already. |
| 19:44.40 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 19:44.40 | dpkg | well, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1) |
| 19:44.46 | abrotman | will: two totally different things |
| 19:44.52 | will | yes |
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| 19:45.02 | abrotman | ia64 != amd64 |
| 19:45.06 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:46.09 | will | ok thanks i will look at the those |
| 19:46.11 | jetscreamer | !rs64-II |
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| 19:47.18 | WolfCub | I put "ALL: 192.168.0.2" in hosts.allow, is this right? Im getting a permissions error. |
| 19:47.21 | abrotman | !factinfo ia64 |
| 19:47.21 | dpkg | ia64 -- it has been requested 20 times, last by abrotman, 2m 43s ago. |
| 19:47.26 | abrotman | that's not much |
| 19:48.03 | jetscreamer | wtf they come in right and left handed cpu's? |
| 19:48.24 | Ghostbuster | does debian have prebuild kernel-source packages ? |
| 19:48.25 | Rambo3 | are all source files same ? i wanted to download 686 , and i apt-get source downloaded 386 .and headers for 686 .. will this work? |
| 19:48.31 | jetscreamer | Ghostbuster, yes |
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| 19:48.42 | paulswm | Ghostbuster: debian has kernel source packages, yes |
| 19:48.44 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search kernel-source Ghostbuster |
| 19:48.46 | Ghostbuster | oh they do |
| 19:49.13 | jetscreamer | not all kernels are available in all flavors of debian |
| 19:49.26 | jetscreamer | 2.6.10 isn't in sarge, for instance |
| 19:49.29 | paulswm | Rambo3: The architecture differences are not related to the kernel source, they are options for the kernel build |
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| 19:49.49 | WolfCub | Could some one give me an example entry for "/etc/hosts.allow"? |
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| 19:50.11 | paulswm | jetscreamer: 2.6.10 is in sarge |
| 19:50.23 | jetscreamer | oh ok i'm outdated |
| 19:50.39 | jetscreamer | so wtf right and left handed cpu's?? http://www.alpha-digital.co.uk/rs6000/rs6000-rs64-ii-processors.html |
| 19:51.00 | Blissex | WolfCub: yes. |
| 19:51.06 | jetscreamer | be hard, i apt-get remove --purge aptitude at first chance |
| 19:51.10 | Rambo3 | maby i downloaded to much couse i have couple of kernel image files and 2 kernel -source orig and diff |
| 19:51.17 | paulswm | Heh |
| 19:51.43 | WolfCub | Blissex: it can't be right though cause its saying permission denied... |
| 19:51.46 | WolfCub | Please help... |
| 19:52.06 | Blissex | WolfCub: 'man 5 hosts.allow' |
| 19:52.21 | paulswm | Rambo3: why not use apt-get install? |
| 19:52.26 | Blissex | WolfCub: usually however you get that error when the name of the program is not specified exactly. |
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| 19:52.30 | Onyx | Does anyone here use Gnomemeeting? |
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| 19:52.34 | neo10-CZE | Hi all :-) |
| 19:52.43 | zarchne | WolfCub: man 5 hosts_access |
| 19:53.03 | jetscreamer | WolfCub, there is always ALL:ALL but put ALL:ALL in hosts.deny also |
| 19:53.07 | Rambo3 | i am new to debian , will it bulid custom kernel for me? i dont want some sound drivers that are prebuilt in kernel |
| 19:53.30 | jetscreamer | Rambo3, just apt-get install a prepackaged kernel |
| 19:53.33 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 19:53.36 | Blissex | WolfCub: sometimes fro example the FTP server is 'ftpd', sometimes 'in.ftpd', or 'vsftpd', or whatever. |
| 19:53.42 | jetscreamer | well you have to compile it then |
| 19:53.51 | Blissex | WolfCub: I usually put in the service name too. |
| 19:54.07 | jetscreamer | oh and no space between ALL:ALL iirc |
| 19:54.12 | Rambo3 | so no apt-get install then? |
| 19:54.13 | jetscreamer | dunno if it matters |
| 19:54.27 | jetscreamer | Rambo3, you can apt-get a prebuilt one |
| 19:54.30 | Blissex | WolfCub: for example: 'smtp exim4: ALL :ALLOW' |
| 19:54.33 | jetscreamer | and load the modules you like |
| 19:54.33 | paulswm | Rambo3: There are several tutorials for building debian kernels. Here's one: http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-kernel-recompile.html |
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| 19:55.31 | Rambo3 | thanks for that page paul |
| 19:55.45 | paulswm | Rambo3: You're welcome |
| 19:56.05 | neo10-CZE | I have a problem with serial ata disk :(... I have kernel 2.6.8 from Debian package ... hw info : mainboard MSI K8N Neo4 s chipsete nForce 4 ... My problem : computer do not mount root fs :( |
| 19:56.13 | WolfCub | Ok I looked in the man page for that and I'm still confused, its not working. |
| 19:56.28 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.29 | jetscreamer | WolfCub, got firewall? |
| 19:56.34 | WolfCub | No. |
| 19:56.42 | WolfCub | Well yes but I opened it all up. |
| 19:56.45 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.52 | jetscreamer | yeah... |
| 19:56.53 | WolfCub | So I opened all ports. |
| 19:56.55 | Blissex | WolfCub: for example: 'smtp exim4: ALL :ALLOW' |
| 19:57.23 | neo10-CZE | help me please |
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| 19:57.54 | WolfCub | Ok, so for my laptop which is called EvoN620 with the ip address 192.168.0.2, I would add "EvoN620: ALL :ALLOW"????? |
| 19:58.04 | BeerBaron | HI! someone can help me? |
| 19:58.28 | BeerBaron | I'm tryng to compile the dwl610 driver |
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| 19:58.35 | WolfCub | Or would it be 192.168.0.2: ALL :ALLOW? |
| 19:58.42 | WolfCub | ? |
| 19:58.46 | BeerBaron | but when I launch make: |
| 19:58.51 | BeerBaron | (gedit:7687): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: |
| 19:58.51 | BeerBaron | Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. |
| 19:59.15 | BeerBaron | anyone can help me? |
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| 19:59.44 | pctech4747 | HI |
| 19:59.44 | zarchne | WolfCub: "ALL:192.168.0.2" in hosts.allow |
| 19:59.49 | pctech4747 | i have a problem |
| 19:59.51 | BeerBaron | HI |
| 19:59.58 | pctech4747 | u guys in debian right? |
| 20:00.07 | pctech4747 | k |
| 20:00.24 | pctech4747 | i found a application that allows u to use yahoo voice chat servers |
| 20:00.44 | pctech4747 | http://phpaint.sourceforge.net/pyvoicechat/install.php#missing |
| 20:00.45 | abrotman | !u |
| 20:00.45 | dpkg | It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 20:00.52 | swoop | jetscreamer: yeah, I compiled the new kernel, moved it to /boot/ put in the symbolic link to the right kernel version and changed the lilo.conf file, and it's still loading the old 2.2 kernel |
| 20:00.57 | abrotman | pctech4747: ok .. and what about it? |
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| 20:01.23 | pctech4747 | well after converting all 4 rpm files to .deb and installing them i still have missing files |
| 20:01.36 | TinoW | pctech4747: wont kphone and friends not work? |
| 20:01.38 | pctech4747 | the files i need are not available via aptget |
| 20:01.42 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.51 | abrotman | pctech4747: what files? |
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| 20:01.59 | seppe | hi anyone here as skype? I just bought a headset and I want to test it out |
| 20:02.24 | zarchne | WolfCub: you're have permissions problems with NFS? |
| 20:02.26 | pctech4747 | gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkhtml-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 20:02.44 | pctech4747 | ok so i go back to the site and find a missing files section |
| 20:02.46 | abrotman | !find libgtkhtml-2.so.0 |
| 20:02.50 | jetscreamer | is that using alien, pctech4747 ? |
| 20:02.51 | zarchne | WolfCub: Are you trying to access the files as root? |
| 20:02.54 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libgtkhtml-2.so.0' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/{libgtkhtml-2.so.0|libgtkhtml-2.so.0.0.0}) in libs/libgtkhtml2-0. |
| 20:02.56 | pctech4747 | yes alien |
| 20:03.08 | abrotman | pctech4747: which version of debian? |
| 20:03.17 | WolfCub | Yes. |
| 20:03.27 | pctech4747 | oh god how |
| 20:03.29 | pctech4747 | lol |
| 20:03.30 | zarchne | WolfCub: because, by default, root is squashed to "nobody" |
| 20:03.32 | abrotman | how what |
| 20:03.33 | abrotman | ? |
| 20:03.37 | pctech4747 | ver |
| 20:03.47 | abrotman | look in your sources.list file |
| 20:03.51 | oKtosiTe | how do I install a manually downloaded .deb package again? |
| 20:03.52 | WolfCub | Ok so what do I do? |
| 20:04.06 | TinoW | oKtosiTe: man dpkg (dpkg -i package.deb) |
| 20:04.08 | abrotman | oKtosiTe: man dpkg |
| 20:04.09 | basti | is a k7 kernel compatibel to amd duron? |
| 20:04.14 | abrotman | sounds right |
| 20:04.16 | pctech4747 | i installed the latest knoppix cd |
| 20:04.17 | abrotman | !k7 |
| 20:04.17 | dpkg | well, k7 is the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird", "Sempron" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips. |
| 20:04.19 | oKtosiTe | TinoW, abrotman, thanks |
| 20:04.27 | pctech4747 | knx2hd is what i did |
| 20:04.30 | basti | at thank you abrotman# |
| 20:04.30 | pctech4747 | anyway |
| 20:04.41 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 20:04.41 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
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| 20:05.23 | TinoW | aw. snow falling :/ |
| 20:05.35 | indes | How would I take a set of files and append them to eachother? |
| 20:05.48 | dan2 | indes: cat |
| 20:05.54 | indes | hmm good cal |
| 20:05.55 | indes | llol |
| 20:05.55 | pctech4747 | the file i want to install is called libgtkhtml-2.6.0.pre-compiled-courtesy-package.i586.tar.bz2 |
| 20:06.00 | pctech4747 | but i cant get it to install |
| 20:06.08 | pctech4747 | i dont know what command runs bz2 |
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| 20:06.16 | zarchne | WolfCub: access as some other user or turn on no-root-squash in the whatsit file... |
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| 20:06.32 | abrotman | pctech4747: ask #knoppix |
| 20:06.32 | pctech4747 | or if i need to convert it to rpm then run alien to make deb then run dpkg |
| 20:06.35 | pctech4747 | ok |
| 20:06.44 | _SerhaT_ | bunzip2 pctech4747 .. |
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| 20:06.52 | indes | dan2, very good call, thx |
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| 20:07.10 | zarchne | WolfCub: man 5 exports |
| 20:07.25 | pctech4747 | where do i unzip it to though.. i already did that and now my home directory has all these new folders in it but it still gives me the missing file |
| 20:07.26 | jetscreamer | tar xvjf pctech4747 |
| 20:07.29 | dan2 | indes: cat is short for concatenate |
| 20:07.34 | pctech4747 | i did that too jet |
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| 20:08.03 | pctech4747 | it seems like the thing isnt unzipping them into the right place |
| 20:08.12 | indes | dan2, I know, I wasn't thinkin of it tho, I was trying to use find and dd somehow together |
| 20:08.16 | abrotman | #knoppix |
| 20:08.17 | indes | dan2, I dunno, my mind is elsewhere |
| 20:08.18 | indes | lol |
| 20:08.23 | abrotman | pctech4747: #knoppix |
| 20:08.42 | indes | dan2, I was thinking I had to dd it cuz it was an avi stream but cat worked wonderfully |
| 20:08.48 | cleancut | Has anyone here had problems doing a "mount -o remount,ro /" as of late? (from single user mode, of course) The remount doesn't return errors, but xfs_check complains about my rootfs being r/w, and cat-ting /proc/mounts shows an entry for "rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0" in addition to the other remounted "/". What is this "rootfs", and were's the documentation for it? |
| 20:10.28 | pctech4747 | they are all brain dead over there |
| 20:10.34 | pctech4747 | no one is helping me |
| 20:10.38 | abrotman | that doesn't make this the right place to ask |
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| 20:11.05 | paulswm | pctech4747: so install debian instead :p |
| 20:11.37 | pctech4747 | oh i got debian but i dont know all that command line crap |
| 20:11.40 | pctech4747 | i need gui |
| 20:11.48 | abrotman | i use debian .. i have a gui |
| 20:11.49 | pctech4747 | and autohardware detection |
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| 20:11.56 | abrotman | and hardware detection |
| 20:11.59 | paulswm | pctech4747: debian sarge has all that |
| 20:11.59 | pctech4747 | from the beginning abrotman |
| 20:12.07 | pctech4747 | really?" |
| 20:12.12 | paulswm | Yes, really |
| 20:12.24 | pctech4747 | ok so how many cds do i need to have ready |
| 20:12.36 | paulswm | And you get help from fine people like abrotman here |
| 20:12.51 | paulswm | pctech4747: one, dl the netinstall cd |
| 20:12.53 | versuchsanstalt | pctech4747: you'd need one cd |
| 20:12.57 | C5Hardtop | i built a .deb kernel image. if i install the deb package will it overwrite my existing setup? i'd like to just add an entry in grub for it in addition to the existing one. that way i can still boot into the old setup if the new one breaks |
| 20:13.12 | paulswm | pctech4747: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 20:13.59 | versuchsanstalt | pctech4747: i installed sarge on a machine at my friends house. he doesn't have net, so i brought him 14 cds. it was pretty straightforward. he is also cli-repugnant, btw. |
| 20:14.00 | basti | !rm |
| 20:14.00 | dpkg | rm is, like, used to delete a file (syntax: rm <file>), or the Grim File Reaper, or really just a wrapper 'round unlink(2) RealMedia (icky proprietary audio/video codecs) |
| 20:14.21 | zarchne | C5Hardtop: It won't be "overwritten" but by default it will make itself the default. It has prompts to help, though. |
| 20:14.25 | pctech4747 | ok so just go there and it will walk me thru? |
| 20:14.29 | paulswm | C5Hardtop: If you built it with make-kpkg it will keep the prior one as backup when you do a dpkg -i |
| 20:14.41 | C5Hardtop | ok, thanks guys |
| 20:14.46 | abrotman | pctech4747: well .. you're decently computer literate right? |
| 20:14.51 | malcster | I recently upgraded to a 2.6.10 kernel and the latest versions of a load of packages, including module-init-tools, and now modprobe segfaults on bootup every time. is this a known problem bug or did I mess up the kernel compilation? |
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| 20:15.27 | thenuke | dependencies.. package needs to have some specific version of another package, and I happen to have a bit newer version.. they are some libraries. I wonder if I should be able to have two different versions of that library :D |
| 20:15.28 | pctech4747 | ya |
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| 20:15.33 | paulswm | malcster: are you running sarge? |
| 20:15.47 | malcster | my base install is woody |
| 20:15.48 | abrotman | pctech4747: then you sohuld be ok .. as long as you're not a total idiot :) |
| 20:15.48 | thenuke | or might it be wise to install older version of that lib.. |
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| 20:16.28 | malcster | but I had a really old rubbish setup so I upgraded gcc, g++, and all the libraries that come with them, including module-init-tools. |
| 20:16.48 | malcster | that gave a load of warnings about "this could break stuff" |
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| 20:17.06 | malcster | I was told it should be safe, did it anyway, it broke the kernel, and the person said "oh you need to upgrade the kernel" |
| 20:17.11 | paulswm | malcster: I dunno then, you're mixing distros by the sound of it, always a bad idea |
| 20:17.24 | malcster | I did, got one working compile, but it froze repeatedly |
| 20:17.49 | malcster | so I recompiled with a few changed options, and modprobe broke. and I've redone the kernel about 5 times, same each time. |
| 20:18.25 | malcster | is there anything I can do, or is this time to start afresh? |
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| 20:18.49 | pctech4747 | ok ill try it |
| 20:18.54 | paulswm | malcster: is ths a desktop or a prudtion secure internet-facing server |
| 20:18.59 | paulswm | production |
| 20:19.19 | malcster | desktop |
| 20:19.29 | malcster | not even got a net connection on that box |
| 20:19.38 | paulswm | malcster: The best thing is to do a frsh sarge netinstall |
| 20:19.42 | paulswm | crap |
| 20:19.48 | malcster | heh |
| 20:19.54 | versuchsanstalt | pctech4747: if you read everything carefully, maybe check the bootoptions at startup (F1 for help), you shouldnt go wrong. try it. |
| 20:19.56 | malcster | I can get someone to download isos for me |
| 20:20.35 | malcster | is sarge the release straight after woody? |
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| 20:21.04 | Ghostbuster | malcster you have high speed internet ? |
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| 20:21.14 | malcster | nope |
| 20:21.17 | paulswm | malcster: Then that's what they'll have to do, from the sarge weekly distro, not sure of the url offhand except it's at debian.org |
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| 20:21.20 | Goraxx | hello all |
| 20:21.35 | paulswm | malcster: yes, sarge is frozen and almost ready to go stable |
| 20:21.36 | Eclipser | hmm |
| 20:21.48 | malcster | paulswm: okay, thankyou |
| 20:21.50 | Eclipser | how did the bot packet search thing work again? |
| 20:21.57 | paulswm | malcster: You are more than welcome |
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| 20:22.31 | versuchsanstalt | Eclipser: /msg [botname] help, maybe? |
| 20:22.46 | pctech4747 | will it allow me to format the knoppix from my hd? |
| 20:22.59 | Eclipser | I think I got it, the bot help isn't very helpful though :) |
| 20:23.27 | versuchsanstalt | pctech4747: yes. you just need to remember the partition... |
| 20:23.36 | Eclipser | dang it |
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| 20:24.15 | lanchow | hi |
| 20:24.24 | pctech4747 | jsut as long as they give me the size |
| 20:24.32 | versuchsanstalt | Eclipser: true;-) but the hint about /msg was worth it... *g* |
| 20:24.34 | pctech4747 | i can visually see how mynhdd is partitions |
| 20:24.37 | pctech4747 | err ed |
| 20:24.47 | pctech4747 | i have to goback into windows |
| 20:24.54 | lanchow | hehe |
| 20:24.59 | pctech4747 | so i can erase my cd and burn that debian net install |
| 20:25.07 | Goraxx | when i insall sarge debian, the installation stop at "search of peripheral of beginning of GRUB" at 33% (always, and i see on Google that other people have the same problem) ..... please help (sorry i am ot english) |
| 20:25.08 | pctech4747 | bblater |
| 20:25.16 | Eclipser | I guess I need to compile my own boostlib |
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| 20:27.11 | Goraxx | my installation of sarge debian stop at "Determining GRUB boot device" 33% |
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| 20:27.15 | jetscreamer | weebles wobble but they dont fall down |
| 20:28.25 | paulswm | Someone has too much time on his hands |
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| 20:31.57 | Goraxx | I want to install sarge debian with netinst (i have a cd of 110 mo). The install boot loader phase seemed to "lock up" at the 33% stage [Installing GRUB Boot Loader / Determining GRUB Boot Device]. What can I do ? |
| 20:32.50 | schuler | hi |
| 20:33.32 | michux | Goraxx - you could install grub form knoppix or other live cd |
| 20:33.39 | WolfCub | Ok, I've given up on NFS for the time being... |
| 20:33.51 | michux | just chroot to the system and do it as if you were in your sarge |
| 20:33.54 | WolfCub | Now, how can I use my USB thumb drive? |
| 20:34.10 | TinoW | WolfCub: whats in the logs of the server when you try to mount? what did you export? |
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| 20:34.56 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.32 | Goraxx | michux: now i have LILO, if i delete LILO with "fdisk \MBR", it will be good ? |
| 20:36.48 | Goraxx | "fdisk /MBR" ** |
| 20:36.56 | jetscreamer | fdisk /mbr an yes if you're trying to resotr the windows bootloader |
| 20:37.03 | jetscreamer | restore |
| 20:37.22 | Goraxx | may be the installation stop because i have LILO |
| 20:37.33 | jetscreamer | WolfCub, google shfs |
| 20:37.42 | jetscreamer | which installation |
| 20:38.11 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.21 | TinoW | WolfCub: and your server log says what when you mount? |
| 20:38.23 | WolfCub | Its my friend's drive and he has XP |
| 20:38.32 | jetscreamer | if it works in windows it's 'formatted' |
| 20:38.40 | WolfCub | When I mount the thumb drive or the nfs share? |
| 20:38.50 | jetscreamer | thumb |
| 20:38.51 | FieldySnuts | I use the following script to load the right modules for any usb "drive" (camera in this case) echo "ohci-hcd sg sd_mod sr_mod usb-storage" | xargs -n 1 modprobe -v |
| 20:38.52 | TinoW | WolfCub: usually these drives are formatted fat/fat32 so with the vfat driver you can mount it |
| 20:39.01 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.11 | WolfCub | Its not showin up as /dev/sda or whatever. |
| 20:39.12 | FieldySnuts | might have to edit that for what type of usb you have, or you might not have some modules etc. it then shows up when i plug in / turn the device in, in logs, and I know what to mount. |
| 20:39.21 | jetscreamer | WolfCub, you might need to load the modules |
| 20:39.28 | WolfCub | How? |
| 20:39.34 | TinoW | WolfCub: you will need usb-storage driver module and stuff too |
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| 20:39.36 | FieldySnuts | *sigh* i'm obviously being ignored. have fun. |
| 20:39.46 | WolfCub | Sorry. |
| 20:39.47 | TinoW | FieldySnuts: ;) |
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| 20:39.52 | WolfCub | I'm doin many things. |
| 20:39.56 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 20:39.57 | jetscreamer | WolfCub, sd_mod and sr_mod i think |
| 20:40.31 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.41 | jetscreamer | WolfCub, try FieldySnuts 's lil script line |
| 20:40.53 | jetscreamer | or try mounting it again maybe |
| 20:41.19 | jetscreamer | oh fuck my last cig |
| 20:41.24 | abrotman | !usb-storage |
| 20:41.24 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 20:41.34 | WolfCub | What logs do you mean fieldysnuts? |
| 20:42.01 | jetscreamer | [14.38.52] <FieldySnuts> I use the following script to load the right modules for any usb "drive" (camera in this case) echo "ohci-hcd sg sd_mod sr_mod usb-storage" | xargs -n 1 modprobe -v |
| 20:42.16 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.23 | jetscreamer | sd? |
| 20:42.33 | TinoW | WolfCub: because its named "sd_mod" |
| 20:42.35 | WolfCub | That's what dpkg said to load. |
| 20:42.46 | jetscreamer | true |
| 20:42.49 | WolfCub | Sd_mod loaded. |
| 20:43.09 | jetscreamer | what does sr_ do btw somebody |
| 20:43.14 | WolfCub | Is that script all one line? |
| 20:43.19 | jetscreamer | yes think so |
| 20:43.34 | jetscreamer | try cut&paste |
| 20:43.38 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.43 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 20:43.45 | TinoW | jetscreamer: afair CD-rom |
| 20:44.00 | jetscreamer | you added a > or ` or something |
| 20:44.05 | WolfCub | No copy paste. |
| 20:44.06 | TinoW | well, the drivers could include more documentation |
| 20:44.17 | TinoW | so modinfo would actually show something |
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| 20:44.47 | doub | h there |
| 20:44.49 | jetscreamer | bash is waiting for the rest of something, WolfCub , all i know |
| 20:44.51 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.55 | jetscreamer | hence the > |
| 20:44.57 | Rambo3 | hello |
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| 20:45.04 | WolfCub | It wanted me to specify somethin. |
| 20:45.08 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.12 | WolfCub | I'm confuzzled. |
| 20:45.13 | Rambo3 | i maby missed everything u sad i lost connection |
| 20:45.14 | WolfCub | :/ |
| 20:45.16 | TinoW | WolfCub: copy just from echo to the end of the line |
| 20:45.50 | Rambo3 | ok are there any other parameters then those in grub-install --help that i could use ? when i do grub-install /dev/hda it stalls . on that question |
| 20:46.02 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 20:46.04 | WolfCub | Now what. |
| 20:46.07 | abrotman | it doesn't stall .. it takes a long time on some machines |
| 20:46.10 | TinoW | WolfCub: worked? |
| 20:46.13 | abrotman | like .. a long damn time |
| 20:46.31 | WolfCub | Gave me: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/drivers/scsi/sg.ko. |
| 20:46.34 | Rambo3 | omg i dont have 30 secundes to wait |
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| 20:46.54 | TinoW | WolfCub: does dmesg say anything usefull now? |
| 20:46.59 | WolfCub | How do I access it, where is it located in the file system? |
| 20:47.05 | abrotman | Rambo3: some take 5 minutes .. depends on the speed of machine |
| 20:47.09 | TinoW | WolfCub: cat /proc/partitions |
| 20:47.20 | WolfCub | Usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. |
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| 20:47.22 | Rambo3 | wrong chanell , sorry you dont need to answe |
| 20:47.48 | Rambo3 | no its like 45 minutes last time i tryed so thanks anyway |
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| 20:48.33 | doub | Rambo3: maybe you don't have a floppy disk installed whereas floppy controller is not disabled: grub will endlessly probe /dev/fd0 |
| 20:48.37 | WolfCub | Debian:~# cat /proc/partitions (/) major minor #blocks name (/) 3 0 244198584 hda (/) 3 1 1052226 hda1 (/) 3 2 81047925 hda2 (/) 3 3 81047925 hda3(/) 3 4 81047925 hda4 (/)Debian:~# |
| 20:48.48 | WolfCub | (/) next line. |
| 20:48.57 | doub | Rambo3: mv /dev/fd0 /dev/fd0.disab made it for me |
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| 20:49.14 | WolfCub | So what now??? |
| 20:49.16 | paulswm | Don't paste in here |
| 20:49.21 | paulswm | That's what now |
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| 20:49.29 | WolfCub | Stfu. |
| 20:49.36 | WolfCub | I'm tryin to fix this. |
| 20:49.38 | WolfCub | Asswipe. |
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| 20:50.03 | peppelorum | Short question, how do I change the port for pure-ftpd when running in standalone? Must be some kind of config file where I can set this |
| 20:50.10 | gandy909 | Can/should one jigdo sarge from a woody iso set? |
| 20:50.12 | TinoW | WolfCub: does any USB gear work? Like a mouse or so? |
| 20:50.17 | FieldySnuts | good luck getting futher volunteer help here with that attitude |
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| 20:50.37 | TinoW | WolfCub: maybe you didnt load the correct driver for your usb chipset |
| 20:50.42 | WolfCub | Yeah my mouse works but it doesn't work right, it scrolls 2 scolls at a time. |
| 20:50.52 | thenuke | peppelorum: I bet that man pure-ftpd answers that :I |
| 20:50.55 | TinoW | WolfCub: its an usb mouse? |
| 20:50.58 | mith | is there a step-by-step guide somewhere on building debian kernels just like in the kernel-image packages with modifications to the configuraton, with initrd and all? |
| 20:51.00 | WolfCub | Yeah MX1000 |
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| 20:51.03 | doub | gandy909: woody jigdo only can produce woody isos IIRC |
| 20:51.06 | TinoW | mith: many |
| 20:51.39 | WolfCub | Mouse is in usb port and printer is in usb port. |
| 20:51.45 | WolfCub | Mouse doesn't work right. |
| 20:52.04 | WolfCub | For details see: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1369&start=0#forumpost6903 |
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| 20:52.37 | abrotman | WolfCub: dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:52.38 | TinoW | WolfCub: copy and paste lsmod and last lines of dmesg output to http://rafb.net/paste |
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| 20:53.12 | gandy909 | thx doub |
| 20:53.15 | peppelorum | thenuke: Well, it says how to change port if you start it with 'pure-ftpd' but I start mine with the init-scripts so... |
| 20:53.28 | thenuke | okeyp :I |
| 20:53.33 | WolfCub | A bunch of stuff came up abrotman. |
| 20:53.47 | abrotman | WolfCub: i need the line with the version number |
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| 20:54.07 | gandy909 | do most poeple run production servers on woody or sarge? |
| 20:54.21 | abrotman | gandy909: i think it depends .. external or internal for starters |
| 20:54.23 | TinoW | gandy909: woody |
| 20:54.37 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.44 | WolfCub | Now I'm going to paste the end of dmesg. |
| 20:54.45 | TinoW | gandy909: but it depends on what kind of software you need for your server |
| 20:54.58 | abrotman | WolfCub: what does the version say? |
| 20:55.06 | TinoW | WolfCub: dont forget to copy the link to here :) |
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| 20:55.19 | gandy909 | do most poeple run production servers on woody or sarge? ...for an external web server |
| 20:55.25 | abrotman | woody |
| 20:55.27 | WolfCub | There I pasted the end of dmesg. |
| 20:55.36 | FieldySnuts | do we get to know *where*? |
| 20:55.40 | doub | abrotman: at issue is not only security, but also stability |
| 20:55.47 | abrotman | doub: not really |
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| 20:55.53 | abrotman | WolfCub: where is that version number |
| 20:55.55 | WolfCub | Ii xserver-xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-10 the XFree86 X server. |
| 20:56.43 | WolfCub | Lol yeah sorry. |
| 20:56.52 | gandy909 | abrotman, external, mostly just web server |
| 20:56.53 | abrotman | TinoW: he's not donig os well either |
| 20:56.53 | WolfCub | Its just that there are so many :D |
| 20:56.57 | abrotman | gandy909: woody |
| 20:57.04 | paulswm | WolfCub: Grow up, read the topic and watch your language |
| 20:57.08 | TinoW | WolfCub: will we get to lern the URL you got from pasting? |
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| 20:57.17 | WolfCub | Huh. |
| 20:57.27 | doub | abrotman: i mean, deciding to use whatever OS suits you fine for a server, is not only about choosing a secure one, but also one that does not crash because the wind blows from the... window |
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| 20:57.45 | WolfCub | Ok I'm a noob I don't know these things. |
| 20:57.48 | WolfCub | I'm doin my best. |
| 20:57.48 | doub | abrotman: and this is either true for exteral or internal |
| 20:58.09 | FieldySnuts | trying to help him is pretty pointless. 3 hours ago he was repeatedly flooding and getting kicked, now he pastes text somewhere, doesn't tell you the URL, and gets mad when we don't help. also: <WolfCub> Stfu. <WolfCub> I'm tryin to fix this. <WolfCub> Asswipe. Volunteers don't deserve to be treated like this. |
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| 20:58.17 | abrotman | doub: well ... that has nothing to do with woody vs sarge .. the big issue there is lack of security updates |
| 20:58.23 | TinoW | WolfCub: now, the URL= |
| 20:58.27 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.28 | TinoW | WolfCub: quickly! |
| 20:58.29 | paulswm | WolfCub: being a noob is not an excuse for calling me an asswipe |
| 20:58.33 | WolfCub | What url? |
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| 20:58.45 | TinoW | WolfCub: didnt you get how http://rafb.net/paste works? |
| 20:58.49 | WolfCub | You angered me I'm frustrated man lay off. |
| 20:58.54 | WolfCub | No I didn't lol. |
| 20:59.01 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:59.13 | doub | abrotman: there are still RC bugs in sarge |
| 20:59.15 | abrotman | you get angered and call people names that are trying to help you .. fucktard |
| 20:59.23 | FieldySnuts | doub: only a few hundred. |
| 20:59.23 | TinoW | WolfCub: I see. And I really doubt you read the NFS howto - the time was just too short. So no wonder nothing works for you :) |
| 20:59.24 | abrotman | doub: i'm well aware of this .. thanks |
| 20:59.28 | abrotman | !sarge security issues |
| 20:59.28 | dpkg | testing security issues is, like, http://merkel.debian.org/~joeyh/testing-security.html |
| 20:59.29 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: for free, no less. |
| 20:59.33 | abrotman | doub: is that better? |
| 20:59.43 | FieldySnuts | anyway I made my point, see ya, bbl! |
| 20:59.53 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.56 | WolfCub | Its just odd. |
| 20:59.59 | doub | abrotman: that means it has better chance to crash than woody |
| 21:00.02 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:00.34 | WolfCub | There I pasted dmesg on that site. |
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| 21:00.51 | FieldySnuts | you really should give them the url then. otherwise, nobody can see it. |
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| 21:01.10 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.48 | WolfCub | And here is lsmod: http://rafb.net/paste/results/0eqP4y79.html |
| 21:02.13 | abrotman | doub: you're just blabbing |
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| 21:02.32 | abrotman | doub: and you're not telling me anythingi don't know |
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| 21:03.09 | chino | is there something like rc.local in debian ? |
| 21:03.14 | chealer | !rc.local |
| 21:03.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, rc.local is the boot script for BSD/slackware/redhat systems but is considered to be a hack for lazy people. Use the sysvinit method via update-rc.d, or read /etc/init.d/README or "man update-rc.d", or try "sysvconfig", or /etc/rc.boot/ directory, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file and /etc/init.d/skeleton template. If you don't like SysV, consider file-rc. |
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| 21:03.50 | chino | bahhh |
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| 21:03.56 | djtansey | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.12 | WolfCub | So am I missin some modules or something then??? |
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| 21:04.23 | abrotman | what are modules? |
| 21:04.34 | WolfCub | They're on that paste site. |
| 21:04.38 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.40 | abrotman | what site? |
| 21:04.43 | abrotman | you didn't give me anything |
| 21:04.45 | paulswm | I'm not helping you, I'm just an asswipe, remember? |
| 21:04.45 | adaran | I have a process that shows "Ts" as its state - I believe its the father of two zombies, but I can't kill it, nor "resume" or "wake" it (if that is possible - I don't know how to!) |
| 21:04.50 | WolfCub | Lemme look again then..... |
| 21:04.50 | amblin | djtansey: take a screen shot save the image, is one long way around |
| 21:04.56 | vulture | abrotman: he mentioned two links in the channel.. |
| 21:05.00 | FieldySnuts | djtansey: it's specific to openoffice. you can't copy or paste into or out of it. |
| 21:05.00 | vulture | 08:01 < WolfCub> http://rafb.net/paste/results/pDeupC94.html |
| 21:05.01 | adaran | Also the ps manpage says "S" is for sleeping processes, not sure why this is "s" - any ideas? |
| 21:05.06 | vulture | 08:01 < WolfCub> And here is lsmod: http://rafb.net/paste/results/0eqP4y79.html |
| 21:05.06 | abrotman | vulture: not at me .. i thought he meant he specified me |
| 21:05.26 | WolfCub | Yeah that's it. |
| 21:05.26 | vulture | abrotman: it seems clear enough, there's the output of lsmod, |
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| 21:05.51 | abrotman | how many wolf* do we need here? |
| 21:05.55 | WolfCub | Lol. |
| 21:06.14 | Led_Zeppelin | 1 |
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| 21:06.16 | djtansey | FieldySnuts, amblin: any idea when that will be fixed? (though i could paste it in gimp. which is a solution -- but not a pretty one. what is the difference between gimp and evolution?) |
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| 21:06.26 | gandy909 | I just jigdo'd my way from 30r2 to 30r4. do I also need to do something with thise debian-update-3.0r4-i386*.jigdo files? |
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| 21:06.32 | FieldySnuts | djtansey: openoffice has always been like that, it's an openoffice issue not debian or evolution or gnome |
| 21:06.38 | FieldySnuts | djtansey: it's very annoying. |
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| 21:06.56 | TinoW | WolfCub: you can check with usbview or lsusb if your device gets recogniced |
| 21:06.58 | chino | how do i setup ip_forwarding ? |
| 21:07.02 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 21:07.04 | TinoW | -c+z |
| 21:07.24 | WolfCub | Lsusb gives output. |
| 21:07.29 | Led_Zeppelin | chino: IP MASQ |
| 21:07.33 | jasonm | can i use debian w/ s-ata drives? how does one install drivers in linux? im a windows users, i want to switch. i dont really know anything. |
| 21:07.44 | djtansey | FieldySnuts: yeah. i wonder why it works in gimp though... |
| 21:07.53 | FieldySnuts | it does? |
| 21:08.02 | abrotman | jasonm: with sarge it is much easier |
| 21:08.10 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.11 | grendal_prime | ok i have my linux machine up and running, installation is on hda i need to add my windows drive and make it dual boot, but windows needs to be the primariy drive how would i go about putting grub on the primary drive so i could dual boot? |
| 21:08.21 | WolfCub | Tyhats the site qwith lsusb. |
| 21:08.24 | amblin | djtansey: evo's editor widget maynot be able to handle the image? i assume you're trying to past it "into" a message |
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| 21:09.12 | gandy909 | abrotman, I just jigdo'd my way from 30r2 iso's to 30r4. do I also need to do something with thise debian-update-3.0r4-i386-*.jigdo files? |
| 21:09.16 | djtansey | amblin: yup. tried with format->HTML on and off. |
| 21:09.20 | grendal_prime | the main thing is i donw want to reinstall the oses.. |
| 21:09.30 | amblin | djtansey: what does gimp think the image is? |
| 21:09.41 | abrotman | gandy909: uhm .. depends .. you can update after you get a net connection .. but i guess i'd get that if i were you |
| 21:09.41 | jasonm | abrotman, is sarge another linux distro? |
| 21:09.47 | abrotman | !d-i jasonm |
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| 21:09.50 | dpkg | jasonm, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 21:09.58 | FieldySnuts | heh. didn't work here. oh well no big loss bbl |
| 21:09.59 | abrotman | jasonm: sarge is currently debian testing |
| 21:10.17 | chino | where do i define a interface as the localnet |
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| 21:10.31 | jasonm | abrotman, oh ok. |
| 21:10.34 | paulswm | grendal_prime: read the grub info doc, you'll need to add someting like map (hd0,hd1), map(hd1,hd0) to fool Windows (it's in the Ohter Operating Systems section I think) |
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| 21:11.40 | zamolxes | any ideea how to integrate ps/pdf into openoffice? i'd hate to render it to a raster format... / sorry for the offtopic intrusion |
| 21:12.00 | abrotman | zamolxes: #debian-oo i think ... |
| 21:12.06 | pipeline | zambaro1: file -> export pdf ?? |
| 21:12.06 | zamolxes | oh |
| 21:12.08 | abrotman | might be #debian-openoffice |
| 21:12.17 | djtansey | amblin: it happily pastes it. i don't know what you mean by "thinks it is" -- it just pastes with ctrl-v |
| 21:12.36 | amblin | view the image properties, what does gimp say it is |
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| 21:12.49 | zamolxes | pipeline: import. |
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| 21:13.19 | djtansey | amblin: it is an unsaved file. (i had to do "new image" and create it large enough to hold my image then paste it) |
| 21:13.34 | grendal_prime | paulswm, where is this doc? |
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| 21:14.00 | grendal_prime | man grub? |
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| 21:14.04 | paulswm | grendal_prime: 'info grub' |
| 21:14.10 | CarlosAlex | hello |
| 21:14.20 | CarlosAlex | I have just one question. Is it possible to install j2sdk using apt-get or aptitude? |
| 21:14.41 | chugga | CarlosAlex, yeah, but not officially |
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| 21:14.55 | jasonm | abrotman, do does sarge come with s-ata support? or do i have to install drivers? how do you install drivers? |
| 21:15.05 | WolfCub | So you guys don't know what to do for the USB? |
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| 21:15.14 | rixth | Is there anyway I can find out waht precentage of the processor each progra is using? |
| 21:15.16 | CarlosAlex | Hummm... Its because, I downloaded, but Im not sure about the installation |
| 21:15.18 | paulswm | grendal_prime: I'll paste an example which you can tailor to your own needs, hang on a sec |
| 21:15.27 | abrotman | jasonm: depends on the device |
| 21:15.35 | rixth | I am using 100% yet have nothing intensive running. |
| 21:15.35 | chugga | CarlosAlex, you downloaded a deb? use dpkg -i |
| 21:15.35 | chino | is there a dhcp server ? |
| 21:15.39 | chino | package ? |
| 21:15.44 | abrotman | yes |
| 21:15.47 | abrotman | !tell chino about search |
| 21:15.54 | CarlosAlex | I downloaded the .bin |
| 21:16.02 | chino | thanks |
| 21:16.11 | chino | tell trouble about search: |
| 21:16.11 | chino | sh: line 1: tell: command not found |
| 21:16.11 | CarlosAlex | Im following this howto http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/DEV/Java+on+Debian?focusedCommentId=2814 |
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| 21:16.18 | jasonm | its a maxtor s-ata drive. |
| 21:16.21 | abrotman | !search |
| 21:16.21 | dpkg | somebody said search was try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing> |
| 21:16.23 | grendal_prime | cool thanks paulswm |
| 21:16.27 | jasonm | whats the best distro for a newb? |
| 21:16.28 | chino | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.35 | FieldySnuts | take a space out |
| 21:16.38 | CarlosAlex | But I didnt get to load the variables in the terminal command |
| 21:16.40 | abrotman | jasonm: drives are rarely important .. .. it's the controller |
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| 21:16.47 | chugga | CarlosAlex, have you tried running the bin? change the permissions to executable and run it. |
| 21:16.54 | CarlosAlex | Yes |
| 21:16.58 | CarlosAlex | I installed |
| 21:17.04 | chugga | then? |
| 21:17.06 | chugga | set your classpath |
| 21:17.10 | chugga | that should be enough |
| 21:17.20 | CarlosAlex | I didnt get to install the dummies packages like is telling |
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| 21:18.48 | CarlosAlex | so... |
| 21:18.56 | CarlosAlex | Now, I folllow the tips |
| 21:19.21 | CarlosAlex | to use the script to update debian environments |
| 21:19.30 | chino | dnsmasq sounds pretty cool it caches dns queries and is a dhcp server as well ??? |
| 21:20.01 | CarlosAlex | thanks for your attention chugga |
| 21:20.08 | chugga | ok' |
| 21:20.31 | CarlosAlex | My sound card isnt working |
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| 21:20.42 | CarlosAlex | Where do I found tips to make it work? |
| 21:20.45 | paulswm | grendal_prime: /join #flood and I'll paste it there |
| 21:20.58 | grendal_prime | ok |
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| 21:21.47 | spl0it | mysql doesn't seem to be binding to my eth0 card which is (172.16.0.1 - local network card) does anyone have any suggestions? I've tried going through various setup guides, but no1 seems to cover this issue.. any suggestions? |
| 21:21.50 | chugga | dpkg tell CarlosAlex about alsa |
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| 21:22.28 | abrotman | spl0it: ask #mysql at all? |
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| 21:22.59 | spl0it | nope was trying here first |
| 21:23.28 | spl0it | I think I might have my hosts or host.conf or hostname file setup wrong.. I'm wondering if that could be the problem? |
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| 21:23.45 | abrotman | spl0it: did you check your logs ? |
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| 21:24.41 | spl0it | yess |
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| 21:24.55 | schuler | hi, i'm a newbie. I could mount an NFS drive from host A on host B, but when i installed samba on host B samba worked but NFS didn't work anymore. What's the cause? |
| 21:25.00 | abrotman | spl0it: and no hints at all? .. the mysql log and the syslog ? |
| 21:25.09 | lewis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:25.52 | simonrvn | #exim |
| 21:25.57 | lewis | tis empty |
| 21:26.09 | spl0it | didn't see anythign that 'pop'd' out at me before the gym, just double checking now |
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| 21:26.33 | petemc | spl0it: less /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian |
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| 21:29.00 | chino | where would i setup iptable rule sets since there is no rc.local ? |
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| 21:29.07 | spl0it | petemc I see something about it in there, thanks, let me give the suggestions a shot! |
| 21:29.08 | infodroid | away ... |
| 21:29.18 | prof | nick Doda |
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| 21:30.22 | claudio | hi |
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| 21:31.11 | claudio | someone can tell me how to install a wireless card under debian ? |
| 21:31.28 | doub | chino: /etc/init.d/iptables has all you want |
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| 21:31.41 | claudio | i've installed ndiswrapper |
| 21:31.42 | chino | oh tnaks |
| 21:31.43 | doub | chino: be shure to carefully read the file first |
| 21:31.48 | chino | ok |
| 21:32.39 | claudio | but i don't find the pciid of my card listed in iwconfig |
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| 21:33.15 | chino | I could use bigfish though right ? |
| 21:33.32 | claudio | how can I see the wireless adapter in iwconfig? |
| 21:33.48 | chino | doub: ^? |
| 21:33.53 | claudio | please, help me. i'm really newbie in linux.. |
| 21:34.02 | doub | chino: what's bigfish? |
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| 21:34.20 | chino | http://bigfish.sf.net |
| 21:34.26 | chino | LAMP |
| 21:34.38 | chino | allows you to easily create and manage iptables firewall scripts |
| 21:34.42 | claudio | :-( |
| 21:34.45 | chino | read about it in linux mag |
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| 21:34.51 | claudio | help |
| 21:35.29 | doub | chino: the only problem is that it's not supported in debian AFAICS |
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| 21:36.19 | lewis | what lines do you guys have in exim4.conf for 'quota_size_regex'? |
| 21:36.24 | chino | yea its maintined by a guy but i mean iptables are iptables right ? |
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| 21:36.36 | schuler | Can noone answer my question? |
| 21:36.41 | simonrvn | !listvals cd-image |
| 21:36.43 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'cd-image' by value (2 shown): iso ;; d-i mirror. |
| 21:36.47 | chino | i think it allows you to pump out a config file and then i can put that into the corresponding place in debian or set it up my self |
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| 21:36.52 | simonrvn | !d-i mirror |
| 21:36.53 | dpkg | mirror, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 21:36.59 | chino | its just a script to help you setup iptables and has preconfigs |
| 21:37.12 | doub | chino: of cours but you'll have to take care of updates/security holes yourself |
| 21:37.17 | useruser_ | I can't run xgammon - I get a BadCursor X error. Anyone know how to fix this? |
| 21:37.22 | chino | doub: what do you mean ? |
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| 21:37.33 | doub | chino: but there are some firewall builder tools in debian, for exemple uif |
| 21:37.34 | sky_geek | hi all |
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| 21:37.42 | basti | hello, i need kernel-headers for kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386, but i cant find them :/ |
| 21:37.46 | doub | chino: debian allowss you to painlessly update |
| 21:37.49 | chino | so there is allready a tool like that for debian ? |
| 21:38.03 | chino | does this let me easily setup nat ? |
| 21:38.05 | doub | chino: if you install from source, you have to take care of it yourself |
| 21:38.09 | chino | and firewall rulles ? |
| 21:38.16 | doub | chino: yes |
| 21:38.35 | chino | bigfish is not a package its a LAMP project its a php script |
| 21:38.54 | chino | ok as long as it lets me setup NAT thats what i need |
| 21:39.02 | doub | chino: the only problem being, you can't in the default setup, add your own rules if you have some fancy stuff to do |
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| 21:39.29 | doub | chino: but it supports NAT, forwarding, filtering rules |
| 21:39.31 | chino | doub: no thats ok |
| 21:39.32 | drp | are there any vid editing suites for debian (in a package anway) |
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| 21:39.49 | drp | joining media is what I want it for mostly |
| 21:39.57 | claudio | there is someone that is really practice in Debian Sarge? |
| 21:40.01 | chino | doub: what about dnsmasq do you know anything about that ? |
| 21:40.24 | claudio | that have already installed a wireless card? |
| 21:40.57 | doub | chino: i don't know it much. the difference IIRC is that with dnsmasq is that you write iptables commands yourself |
| 21:41.15 | chino | doub: i just installed uif its asking me "dont touch" or "workstation" is it goin to kill my ssh connection if i pick workstation ? |
| 21:41.27 | doub | chino: not running connections |
| 21:41.32 | chino | what ? |
| 21:41.37 | doub | chino: just inbond ones |
| 21:41.43 | chino | ah |
| 21:41.48 | doub | chino: ie you wont be able to connect to this host anymore |
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| 21:42.00 | chino | idk dnsmasq just said it was a small dns cache and dhcp server thats 2 things i need so i installed it |
| 21:42.02 | doub | you'll have to change the setup for it to work |
| 21:42.07 | baroni | Hi all. Does anybody knows how many pattern compare tests does a 'mkfs.ext3 -cc /dev/hda1' does? (the -cc does a read and write to sectors to get badblocks verification - it has compared with 0xaa, 0x55, 0xff and 0x00 now) |
| 21:42.16 | chino | is there a cli interface to uif ? |
| 21:42.41 | doub | chino: sorry i thought dnsmasq was something else |
| 21:43.05 | doub | chino: there's only a cli interface : /etc/init.d/uif and conf file /etc/uif/uif.conf |
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| 21:43.24 | doub | chino: man uif for the details, and the usual /usr/share/doc |
| 21:43.51 | chino | thanks |
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| 21:43.57 | hogballs | hi |
| 21:44.03 | hogballs | im in debian |
| 21:44.11 | hogballs | and i want that yahoo chat thing |
| 21:44.21 | hogballs | here is the link then ill post my question |
| 21:44.29 | chugga | dpkg tell hogballs about gaim |
| 21:44.35 | hogballs | http://phpaint.sourceforge.net/pyvoicechat/index_pyvoice.php |
| 21:44.43 | hogballs | gaim does not support voice |
| 21:44.45 | chugga | oh you want voice chat? |
| 21:44.48 | hogballs | yes |
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| 21:44.50 | chugga | ok |
| 21:44.57 | drp | skype |
| 21:44.57 | chugga | doesnt yahoos own client support voice? |
| 21:44.59 | hogballs | dejavu |
| 21:45.05 | hogballs | nope |
| 21:45.05 | drp | !skype |
| 21:45.05 | dpkg | from memory, skype is a free (beer) voip application that is cross platform. See http://www.skype.com/, or based on propriatery, closed-source protocols |
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| 21:45.19 | hogballs | im notlooking for an alternative to voice |
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| 21:45.24 | hogballs | i want yahoo voice severs |
| 21:45.26 | mboso | how do you get man to backspace without the ^H^H stuff? |
| 21:45.46 | drp | stty erase ^H |
| 21:45.51 | hogballs | http://phpaint.sourceforge.net/pyvoicechat/index_pyvoice.php |
| 21:45.53 | drp | maybe |
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| 21:46.12 | hogballs | now here is my question |
| 21:46.40 | hogballs | can some one help me properlyinstall this thing |
| 21:47.27 | chugga | why would they? |
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| 21:47.50 | hogballs | so we can test it |
| 21:48.39 | hogballs | the debian request package has been in the air for over 450 days now |
| 21:48.55 | hogballs | due to others hating yahoo |
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| 21:49.24 | hogballs | !google hogballs |
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| 21:49.33 | dpkg | Google says hogballs is at http://www.thedieselstop.com/archives/ubbthreads/Other_Archives/forums.thedieselstop.com/archives/postlist.php-Cat=&Board=UBB31.htm or http://www.thedieselstop.com/archives/ubbthreads/Other_Archives/forums.thedieselstop.com/archives/postlist.php-Cat=&Board=UBB31&page=11&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=.htm or http://www.thedieselstop.com/archives/ubbthreads/Other_Archives/forums.thedieselstop.com/archives/postlist.php-Cat=&Board=UBB36&page=1&view=col |
| 21:49.33 | dpkg | or http://www.thedieselstop.com/archives/ubbthreads/Other_Archives/forums.thedieselstop.com/archives/postlist.php-Cat=&Board=UBB36.htm or http://www.thedieselstop.com/archives/ubbthreads/Other_Archives/forums.thedieselstop.com/archives/postlist.php-Cat=&Board=UBB36&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=.htm |
| 21:49.44 | mboso | drp: you're right. it works |
| 21:49.49 | idnar | crikey |
| 21:49.50 | mboso | drp: is it permenant? |
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| 21:49.55 | drp | no |
| 21:50.00 | idnar | that's one heck of a URL |
| 21:50.01 | drp | unless you put it in your basrc |
| 21:50.02 | chealer | hogballs: nice for a software in testing dealing with a proprietary protocol |
| 21:50.07 | drp | *bashrc |
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| 21:50.16 | drp | or bash_profile |
| 21:50.22 | drp | mboso, are you using bash? |
| 21:50.25 | noloK | can you give me a tv-out howto? |
| 21:50.27 | noloK | some url? |
| 21:50.29 | mboso | drp: yeah, bash |
| 21:50.32 | chealer | !tell hogballs about msg |
| 21:50.42 | drp | mboso, not sure why that isn't default |
| 21:50.43 | hogballs | yup |
| 21:50.46 | hogballs | chealer |
| 21:50.54 | mboso | drp: i have the same setup at work, and it works just fine. at home for some reason it isn't default. |
| 21:51.09 | chugga | hogballs, NO TECHNICAL SUPPORT WILL BE PROVIDED FOR EITHER GYACH ENHANCHED, pY! VOICE CHAT, OR ANY OF THE GYACH ENHANCED WEBCAM UTILITIES BEYOND THE HELP WITHIN THIS PROGRAM AND THE DOCUMENTATION ON THE WEB SITE ... OU ARE ON YOUR OWN: Remember, 'Free' software does not entitle you to 'Free' technical support.. |
| 21:51.13 | hogballs | it may be proprietary but its a huge success... tons of ppl voice chatting more than any other client |
| 21:51.23 | drp | mboso, thats usually what I have to do in tsch or csh |
| 21:51.26 | hogballs | chugga |
| 21:51.29 | chino | doub: wait how do i setup NAT again ? |
| 21:51.29 | chugga | so why should #debian help you? :P |
| 21:51.38 | hogballs | did i say u had to be supporting me? |
| 21:51.59 | doub | chino: with uif? |
| 21:51.59 | mr | I have a problem with my mouse wheel. It worked with 2.4 kernel, but on my self-compiled 2.6 doesn't. I think that XF86Config is good. Can I get help here? |
| 21:52.16 | doub | chino: wuth the masq+ and fw+ rules |
| 21:52.16 | hogballs | sorry were all dicks in here so help ur self lol |
| 21:52.17 | drp | hogballs, not for long |
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| 21:52.33 | abrotman | !ur |
| 21:52.33 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 21:52.52 | hogballs | whynot forlong? |
| 21:52.52 | paulswm | mr: did you enable the appropriate mouse support in your kernel config |
| 21:52.54 | schue_ | ha ha. |
| 21:52.56 | hogballs | yahoo is rich as |
| 21:52.58 | hogballs | hell |
| 21:52.59 | slackd00d | mr: did you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and on the mouse pick IMPS/2 |
| 21:53.29 | doub | chino: but if you change /etc/uif/uif.conf don't forget to dpkg-reconfigure uif -> "don't touch" or your conf will be wiped out on updatee |
| 21:53.31 | drp | !hell |
| 21:53.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, hell is where it is always schoolies week. |
| 21:53.58 | mr | paulswm, "HID" and psmouse? |
| 21:54.16 | mr | slackd00d, I think it "thinks" it's PS/2 |
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| 21:54.41 | chino | doub: do i have to setup names for eth0 and eth1 like they did for loop ? |
| 21:54.48 | doub | chino: yes |
| 21:54.50 | slackd00d | well change it to IMPS/2 in dpkg-reconfigure and it will ask you if you want to enable the mouse wheel |
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| 21:55.11 | mr | after modprobe psmouse it says that it is a generic ps/2 mouse |
| 21:55.25 | chino | doub: then i put the rules into the filter right ? |
| 21:55.31 | chugga | hogballs, did you build it from source? or are you using the binary? |
| 21:55.33 | doub | chino: yes |
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| 21:55.55 | mr | slackd00d, thanks, I'll try |
| 21:56.02 | hogballs | i need to first install the main .rpm |
| 21:56.10 | gtigene | Compiling kernel 2.4.26, when I did make modules_install I got an error cannot stat dummy.o. I read the source code and Googled dummy.o but still don't know what to do. ANyone knows what I did wrong? |
| 21:56.12 | paulswm | mr: I don't remember, but if it worked in 2.4 and it doesn't work with your custom kernel, then you've probably missed something in your kernel config. You can confirm that by installing a debian 2.6 kernel and checking that the mouse works. |
| 21:56.14 | hogballs | first i need to fail then try and find missing dependencys |
| 21:56.21 | hogballs | how do i install a rpm |
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| 21:56.24 | hogballs | gee |
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| 21:56.27 | abrotman | !alien |
| 21:56.27 | dpkg | alien is probably a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have sex with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
| 21:56.32 | drp | !rpm |
| 21:56.32 | dpkg | somebody said rpm was revolutions per minute, or Red Hat package manager;; "rpm2cpio foo.rpm | cpio -ivdum" to extract the beasties, or a programming language according to LinuxOne, or convert them to .deb's with 'alien'. Relaxing Porn Movie, or random package mangling, or an inferior package type when compared to deb. Rubbish Package Management. Retards pathetic Moaning, or roothats pathalogical muckfuck, or rat-poison method |
| 21:56.44 | abrotman | drp: i win |
| 21:56.51 | paulswm | slackd00d: mr said it worked with 2.4 but doesn't work with a home built 2.6, I doubt that it's anything to do with the X config |
| 21:56.52 | spl0it | can't get mysql to bind to a port properly, any suggestions? I can connect locally but thats it, I want it to bind on my eth0 card, but for some reason it won't the DEBIAN-README was very vague.. :/ |
| 21:57.14 | slackd00d | paulswm, its worth a shot |
| 21:57.21 | gary | Could anyone tell me how to change my keyboard layout in X. If X is not running the keybaord layout works fine (as uk). But in X everything is the US map. I have chnaged the value in XF86Config-4 but it is still the us layout, even after restarting X. Any suggestions? |
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| 21:57.40 | mr | paulswm, with debian's 2.6 my computer won't start - i think cause SATA |
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| 21:58.46 | basti | how do i get the kernel-headers for 2.6.8-1-386, (linux26 via netinstall cd rc2) |
| 21:59.10 | trouble | doub: is this enough? masq+ o=eth0 s=eth1 |
| 21:59.21 | mr | i'll try to restart x |
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| 21:59.27 | russell_ | Hi - can I mount a .iso file remotely? I can mount the remote filesystem and mount the .iso locally but when I try mounting the .iso from afar I get "permission denied". Any suggestions? |
| 21:59.58 | chino | doub: masq+ o=eth0 s=eth1 then i start uif and do a ifdown and ifup and it should be working ? |
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| 22:00.18 | mr | dpkg-reconfigure didn't help |
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| 22:01.28 | mr_ | when I cat /dev/input/mice scrolling doesn't display anything |
| 22:02.16 | wlynch | do you have buttons 5 in the xconfig? |
| 22:02.21 | chealer | wuhu, cat /dev/psaux is cool :) |
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| 22:02.49 | mr_ | wlynch, I have emulate 3 button and zaxismapping 4 5 or sth like this |
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| 22:02.58 | mr_ | but it worked with 2.4 kernel |
| 22:03.23 | wlynch | mr_: i never fiddled with 2.6. |
| 22:03.34 | doub | chino: unless you defined eth0 and eth1 in interfaces this won't work |
| 22:03.52 | doub | trouble: ^^^^ |
| 22:03.52 | chino | ok |
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| 22:04.07 | chino | doub: in interfaces how do i put the ip broadcast etc... |
| 22:04.11 | mr_ | i read that 2.6 supports hyperthreading much better so I installed this :) but this mouse is annoying |
| 22:04.22 | abrotman | man interfaces |
| 22:04.25 | doub | chino: man interfaces |
| 22:05.03 | mr_ | i tried to use a 'converter' [i don't know if it is a good word] usb -> ps/2 |
| 22:05.07 | doub | chino: but i ment the interface section of the conf file |
| 22:05.17 | mr_ | but when i plug it a mouse goes like crazy |
| 22:05.17 | basti | if i do apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 what will happen to my old 2.6.8-1-386 kernel? |
| 22:05.23 | chino | yes i did it |
| 22:05.27 | chino | eth1=eth1 |
| 22:05.31 | chino | eth0=eth0 |
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| 22:06.09 | jetair | basti,it will auto change it to another name for backup |
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| 22:06.53 | basti | jetair: ah thank you for your help |
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| 22:08.22 | trouble | ok 1 sec |
| 22:08.35 | spl0it | how do I specify what eth I want mysql to bind to? |
| 22:08.56 | trouble | yes i leave open for uit hsould be good to go though |
| 22:09.20 | mr_ | anobody knows what options should i select in kernel to get mouse wheel working? |
| 22:09.48 | Bombero | Hi, have problem to mount NFS Share |
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| 22:10.15 | hogballs | hbi |
| 22:10.17 | hogballs | junk |
| 22:11.33 | Bombero | The problem is: the NFS Server and the client are in diferent subnets *192.168.0.1- server 192.168.1.1 -for client and have router between |
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| 22:12.23 | C5Hardtop | i'm doing the 2.4 kernel configuration using xconfig. how do I enable experamental support for things like IEEE1394 (firewire)? |
| 22:12.24 | Bombero | how to edit /etc/exports ans what with the router config |
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| 22:13.51 | schuler | CONFIG_MOUSE=y \n CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y |
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| 22:14.53 | witless | what's the best theora player in debian-sarge? |
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| 22:16.13 | BACbKA | Does g++ in sarge support the precompiled headers usage/generation? Tried g++ -c mycommon.h -o mycommon.h.gch, but got a "compilation of header file requested" error. http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Precompiled-Headers.html#Precompiled-Headers gives no additional clue. Am I missing some g++ option, or does g++ in debian have it disabled? |
| 22:16.14 | schuler | mr_: the above setting worked for my usb wheel mouse in .config in kernel 2.4.28 |
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| 22:17.14 | mr_ | schuler: i have it :( |
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| 22:18.11 | drac | mr_: where exactly your mouse doesn't work? |
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| 22:18.33 | mr_ | drac: only wheel doesn't |
| 22:18.47 | drac | mr_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and try ImPS2 |
| 22:18.53 | mr_ | drac: already tried |
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| 22:19.17 | Bombero | anybody can help me to config /etc/exports ? |
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| 22:20.17 | Varg_ | what is the largest file FAT32 and ext3 support? |
| 22:20.30 | Bombero | got error permision denied |
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| 22:20.37 | chealer | zigong: we don't care |
| 22:20.44 | lawnchair | chealer, i care |
| 22:20.50 | Bombero | reason given by server |
| 22:20.57 | chealer | lawnchair: you do? |
| 22:20.59 | _SerhaT_ | Varg_> I only know FAT32 can't handle files bigger then 4 GIG.. |
| 22:21.04 | lawnchair | chealer, i live for away messages |
| 22:21.08 | Roadrunne | i just made and installed a new kernel package with make-kpkg. the kernel works but it can't find the modules. do i have to create a symb.link /usr/src/linux? |
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| 22:21.32 | chealer | Bombero: what's /etc/exports ? |
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| 22:21.35 | BACbKA | got an answer in #c++ -- turns out I had to force the language with -x c++ when pre-compiling a header ending with .h |
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| 22:22.04 | Bombero | chaler its config file for NFS server |
| 22:22.04 | Echizen | hey, i uninstalled exim and with it it took mailx and at. are those important? |
| 22:22.09 | spl0it | ya I finally got it skip-networking as set :/ |
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| 22:22.29 | Tomtom76320 | salut |
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| 22:23.00 | Tomtom76320 | je voudrai savoir comment installer debian sarge en passant par internet j'arrive pas à configurer le net |
| 22:23.07 | chealer | Bombero: man exports probably can |
| 22:23.17 | chealer | Tomtom76320: #debian-fr |
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| 22:23.27 | Echizen | anyone know? |
| 22:23.27 | Toth | bye bye all |
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| 22:23.49 | Bombero | chealer , mz problem is the client and server are in diferent subnets |
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| 22:24.22 | schuler | Tomtom change /etc/apt/sources.list from 'stable' to 'testing' |
| 22:24.39 | chealer | Bombero: I didn't propose myself, but I guess that's something you'd want to fix |
| 22:25.00 | chealer | Tomtom76320: you already have woody? |
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| 22:26.41 | chealer | ok I really don't like what I just got : I installed 2.6 on a dual-boot (windows+debian) sarge with only 2.4, and now the grub entry for windows is gone. what do I do? and is this supposed to happen? |
| 22:27.23 | AwesomeMachine | chealer: edit grubmenu.lst |
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| 22:29.49 | AwesomeMachine | you there chealer? |
| 22:29.58 | chealer | AwesomeMachine: is this file supposed to exist by default or do I have to create it? |
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| 22:30.35 | AwesomeMachine | ok, step by step, it exists |
| 22:30.35 | hettar | chealer: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 22:30.35 | Roadrunne | i just made and installed a new kernel package with make-kpkg. the kernel works but it can't find the modules? |
| 22:30.35 | AwesomeMachine | /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 22:30.37 | chealer | oh ok that will help |
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| 22:32.01 | AwesomeMachine | chealer add "title windows" |
| 22:32.01 | AwesomeMachine | root (hd0,0) |
| 22:32.01 | nSe | hmmm... where can i find the documentation that comes with my recently installed package? |
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| 22:32.27 | mr_ | nse: try man _program_ or look at /usr/share/doc/ |
| 22:32.28 | paulswm | nSe: what package? |
| 22:32.32 | AwesomeMachine | where 0,0 are the drive and partition where windows boots from |
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| 22:32.47 | michal_ | hi. anyone know if there are kernel-patch-debian experimental patches available for 2.6.11 rc kernels? |
| 22:32.50 | nSe | paulswm: wordtrans-kde |
| 22:32.53 | AwesomeMachine | chainloader +1 |
| 22:33.05 | AwesomeMachine | and that's it |
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| 22:34.01 | michal_ | i might try to apply the 2.6.10 patches to 2.6.11-rc4 :/ |
| 22:34.10 | paulswm | nSe: man kwordtrans, also look in /usr/share/doc/wordtrans-kde |
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| 22:35.04 | humbolt | how do I find our whar version of sarge debian installer I have on my cdrom? |
| 22:35.23 | nSe | paulswm: i'll see them ,thanks |
| 22:35.29 | schuler | Roadrunne: you must enable loadable module support in .config of your kernel |
| 22:35.35 | paulswm | nSe: you're welcome |
| 22:35.45 | chealer | AwesomeMachine: thanks, I'll try to understand the options then try it |
| 22:36.07 | AwesomeMachine | ok |
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| 22:37.03 | humbolt | I wanna find out wether or not it is the rc2 release |
| 22:37.27 | Roadrunne | schuler: it's enabled |
| 22:38.13 | Roadrunne | schuler: do i have to build the kernel from a symlink /usr/src/linux or can it also be done from the kernel dir /usr/src/kernel-source...? |
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| 22:40.14 | simonrvn | Roadrunne: it's just a symlink... |
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| 22:41.00 | schuler | you should make the symlink to your src dir |
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| 22:41.15 | humbolt | is there any way to find out what version of the debian installer cd/iso I have?? |
| 22:41.18 | Roadrunne | simonrvn: yeah, but the first time i did the make-kpkg from the /usr/src/kernel-source... dir, perhaps this was the fault? |
| 22:41.27 | ro | oi |
| 22:41.48 | simonrvn | Roadrunne: no |
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| 22:42.08 | Roadrunne | simonrvn: hm, where does debian store the modules for each kernel? |
| 22:42.22 | xnotte | how can i see a file size ? |
| 22:42.28 | dondelelcaro | xnotte: ls -l or stat |
| 22:42.38 | xnotte | thx |
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| 22:42.42 | dondelelcaro | Roadrunne: in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ |
| 22:43.02 | schuler | Roadrunne: you need the symlink for other programs to be compiled using kernel src info |
| 22:43.05 | simonrvn | what dondelelcaro said |
| 22:43.44 | lince | hola. ¿Cómo puedo crear un disco de arranque en debian? No lo hice durante la instalacion |
| 22:44.20 | paulswm | !es |
| 22:44.20 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 22:44.52 | nSe | which directory has the main files for a certain installed package? like configuration files and other stuff... |
| 22:45.11 | schuler | Roadrunne: do you have installed a new kernel of the same version? |
| 22:45.30 | Roadrunne | schuler: no, tried to install the kernel 2.6.8 |
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| 22:45.41 | jetair1 | i have a Ms FeedBackPro joystick,and an ALC850 AC97 chipset in motherboard,i installed 3 moduled:joydev,gameport and siderwinder,but no /dev/js0,what should i do then?thx |
| 22:45.50 | dondelelcaro | nSe: depends on the package, but almost everything is in /etc |
| 22:46.07 | rixth | Is there anyway I can find out what precentage of the processor each program is using? |
| 22:46.08 | Roadrunne | dondelelcaro: the folder is there, but the module i need has .ko ending? what's this? |
| 22:46.11 | rixth | I am using 100% yet have nothing intensive running. |
| 22:46.18 | dondelelcaro | Roadrunne: that's the 2.6 module ending. |
| 22:46.47 | dondelelcaro | rixth: top |
| 22:46.58 | paulswm | nSe: dpkg -L |
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| 22:47.05 | schuler | Roadrunne: edit /etc/modules: its a common problem |
| 22:47.12 | rixth | dondelecaro: thanks |
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| 22:47.48 | paulswm | nSe: that's dpkg -L <package-name> |
| 22:48.07 | Roadrunne | schuler: insert the module-names which the kernel can't load? |
| 22:48.17 | rixth | It's saying 17.9% us, 82.1% sy but I can only see about 25% being used in the table. |
| 22:48.38 | rixth | How can I find out what the system is running thats using 80%? |
| 22:48.40 | schuler | Roadrunne: remove the comment '#' from your modules |
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| 22:49.26 | Roadrunne | schuler: there are only 2 modules in there. nothing with # (only comments). |
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| 22:49.59 | BleSS | i need a xml parser but whithout perl, do u know something? |
| 22:50.36 | chealer | AwesomeMachine: thanks, that seems to work, what's the use of makeactive? |
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| 22:51.19 | schuler | Roadrunne: perhaps the problem is that you configured the kernel modules with 'y' instead of 'm' |
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| 22:51.26 | Assassinater | hey |
| 22:51.33 | rixth | Someone join my in #flood for a little help |
| 22:51.45 | Assassinater | how do i check what program i have? |
| 22:51.47 | rixth | me* and a ? |
| 22:51.53 | Assassinater | in rh its rpm -q |
| 22:51.59 | Assassinater | whats in debian? |
| 22:52.18 | streuner__ | Assassinater: try 'dpkg -l package' |
| 22:52.35 | schuler | Assassinater: in xterm enter <cmd> --version |
| 22:52.41 | abrotman | Assassinater: dpkg -l |
| 22:52.48 | jetair1 | what modules should be installed for SiderWinder ForceFeedBack Projoystick?Are Joydev,Gameport and Siderwinder modules enough? |
| 22:53.08 | Roadrunne | schuler: no, just took a look on the .config file |
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| 22:54.26 | rixth | Tasks: 95 total, 3 running, 88 sleeping, 3 stopped, 1 zombie |
| 22:54.27 | rixth | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:54.35 | rixth | so I'm using 100% with only 3 processes :S |
| 22:54.52 | Assassinater | how do i start apache? |
| 22:54.54 | almabetty | BleSS: I don't know what you need it for, but yeah I would have said the Perl modules. If not, I guess there's Oxxygen (proprietary, but you can get a trial license); that treats XML pretty well. |
| 22:55.04 | rixth | /usr/local/apache2/apachectl start |
| 22:55.08 | Assassinater | k |
| 22:55.20 | BleSS | almabetty, thx |
| 22:55.22 | almabetty | BleSS: a *free* trial license. |
| 22:55.36 | Roadrunne | schuler: the boot screen says: "Detecting hardware: tg3 piix..."\n"Skipping unavailable/built-in tg3 module"... |
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| 22:56.44 | neorom | yo |
| 22:56.45 | spl0it | how can I tell what version of mysql support php is using? |
| 22:58.08 | Assassinater | yo |
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| 22:58.13 | schuler | Roadrunne: please look in the docs e.g. /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt |
| 22:58.21 | Assassinater | i try doing apt-get php says couldnt find |
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| 22:58.41 | spl0it | try apt-get install php4 or whatever |
| 22:58.42 | spl0it | :o |
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| 22:59.02 | MSG43 | hi |
| 22:59.04 | MSG43 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:00.26 | x0563511 | How can i send a process to the background, so it stays persistant after logout? I want it to output all output to a file. |
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| 23:01.08 | zamolxes | MSG43: on kernel2.6 modprobe uhci-hcd usb-core ubs-storage , and then mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/stick |
| 23:01.09 | Xemacs__ | x0563511, nohup |
| 23:01.19 | x0563511 | ty |
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| 23:02.18 | MSG43 | zamolxes: thanks |
| 23:03.00 | Roadrunne | schuler: might there be the prob that my debian sarge searches for .o files instead of .ko files? |
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| 23:03.11 | x0563511 | Xemacs__: so... "nohup thingiwanttorun &" or "nohup thingiwanttorun&"? |
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| 23:03.32 | Xemacs__ | #1 |
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| 23:03.46 | x0563511 | Xemacs__: thanks |
| 23:04.11 | BleSS | i need help about xmllint (in libxml2), how use it to show a value? |
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| 23:06.52 | schuler | Roadrunne: my lib modules are ending in .o not .ko. |
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| 23:08.22 | Roadrunne | schuler: my 2.4.x kernel modules too, the 2.6.x kernel modules are .ko (see answer from dondelelcaro) |
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| 23:09.06 | Roadrunne | dondelelcaro: might my sarge system search the modules as .o instead of .ko? |
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| 23:10.35 | marcozbo | recently portmap is preventing my kde or gnome desktop from starting... is it nomal? |
| 23:10.40 | octavious | i've just gotten debian installed and I want to upgrade to my own kernel, i downloaded 2.6.10 and got my own config and compiled it already, |
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| 23:10.54 | octavious | i'm not familiar with grub, so i don't know how to use it to boot to the new kernel |
| 23:11.31 | octavious | i guess i just don't understand the initrd concept, do i need to make my own initrd, or is one created when i made the kernel |
| 23:11.41 | Yabden | just copy one of the existing grub entries and replace the kernel image line with where your image is |
| 23:11.49 | schuler | Roadrunne: you're right. I looked for it. .ko is allowed for kernel 2.6 |
| 23:11.56 | davidcsi | hello, I downloaded NETINST and burned a CD, it doesn't boots thougth... BIOS is ok, CD is OK... I think NETINST is NOT bootable... can anyone help? |
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| 23:12.25 | chugga | can i use debian with the hurd kernel? |
| 23:12.27 | marcozbo | 'night! |
| 23:12.38 | chealer | chugga: in theory |
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| 23:12.39 | octavious | Yabden: what about the initrd line? |
| 23:12.46 | Yabden | no need to mess with it |
| 23:12.48 | chugga | chealer, cool |
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| 23:13.37 | chealer | davidcsi: you're sure that other bootable CDs boot? |
| 23:14.03 | hogballs | how do you mount ntfs partition in debian |
| 23:14.09 | davidcsi | chealer: yes, positive... just tried SuSE, works fine... |
| 23:14.09 | Roadrunne | schuler: when i try 'insmod tg3' it says no module by that name found. if i add '-v' i see, that it searches in the right dir and finds the tg3.ko file |
| 23:14.12 | hogballs | i need to view my own files |
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| 23:15.24 | simonrvn | schuler, Roadrunne: um, .ko files are 2.6 kernel module files. 2.4 and under it was .o |
| 23:15.24 | gilles | how can i change my "Maximum execution time of 30 seconds" in apache 2 ? |
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| 23:15.31 | Xemacs__ | davidcsi, try booting linux26, that gives you a 2.6 kernel boot ..... |
| 23:15.46 | cyklus | for a xeon processor do I use i386 or ia64 installation cd's? |
| 23:16.03 | schuler | Roadrunne: perhaps you need parameters for your drivers. In such a case the modules aren't loaded. |
| 23:16.15 | chealer | Xemacs__: he says the CD isn't bootable |
| 23:16.15 | davidcsi | Xemacs__: from where? I didn't download the full CD image... only the NETINST |
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| 23:16.27 | Roadrunne | schuler: insmod says it can't find the mod, not can't load |
| 23:16.32 | zeeeee | hi all, does anybody know if it's possible to make rdesktop support visual styles? (it always displays them for a brief second right after i log in, before windows suddenly reverts back to "unskinned" mode) |
| 23:16.33 | chugga | i cant join #freebsd but i wanted to ask them if there is a debian with a bsd kernel |
| 23:16.49 | _rene_ | yes |
| 23:16.56 | Roadrunne | simonrvn: yeah i know, but why is insmod saying 'module by that name not found'? |
| 23:16.57 | _rene_ | read www.debian.org/ports |
| 23:16.59 | _rene_ | alpha, though |
| 23:17.02 | chugga | _rene_, have you tried it? |
| 23:17.08 | C5Hardtop | hogballs, do you have the ntfs driver loaded? |
| 23:17.24 | davidcsi | chealer: I mean, I can try and burn another CD, but it'll be the same... |
| 23:17.26 | simonrvn | Roadrunne: run depmod -Aa |
| 23:17.32 | _rene_ | no, the livecd doesn't boot here ;( |
| 23:17.33 | simonrvn | Roadrunne: then try it again |
| 23:17.37 | chealer | davidcsi: what URL did you use? |
| 23:17.38 | Roadrunne | simonrvn, schuler: perhaps i should make a new package starting from /usr/src/linux instead of /usr/src/kernel-source..? |
| 23:17.44 | schuler | Roadrunne: perhaps you must set MODPATH or edit /etc/modules.conf |
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| 23:17.52 | simonrvn | Roadrunne: that won't matter |
| 23:18.03 | chugga | rene, oh? do you know if hte bsd kernel is a micro? |
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| 23:18.10 | simonrvn | Roadrunne: and don't use insmod, use modprobe |
| 23:18.12 | davidcsi | chealer: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/ |
| 23:18.25 | _rene_ | it's a freebsd kernel, whatever that is. no idea. never used bsd |
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| 23:18.44 | simonrvn | Roadrunne: in 2.6, insmod requires a full path and file name to the module not just the name |
| 23:18.52 | chealer | davidcsi: the CD *really* should be bootable |
| 23:18.55 | chugga | the hurd is a microkernel.. that means you dont need to reboot when you make updates - or when a driver locks up |
| 23:18.59 | chugga | (which is pretty nice) |
| 23:18.59 | Roadrunne | simonrvn: depmod says 'QM_MODULES: Function not implemented' |
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| 23:19.08 | schuler | Roadrunne: the symlink /usr/src/linux is only needed for no-kernel programs using kernel info |
| 23:19.11 | idnar | !+QM_MODULES |
| 23:19.12 | dpkg | install module-init-tools, or <Justin_> like I said a while ago, it should be QM_ID10T_MODULES, or ask me about <bunk 2.6> |
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| 23:19.28 | davidcsi | chealer: ok, then I'll burn another CD... |
| 23:19.30 | simonrvn | what the bot said |
| 23:19.37 | trask | i have modconf 'ed a driver for my netcard, but still dont see any eth0 on my ifconfig. how do i make it come there? |
| 23:19.37 | davidcsi | chealer: brb |
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| 23:21.00 | simonrvn | Roadrunne: BTW, you'll have to rebuild that kernel-image package, as modprobe and friends are used during the build process |
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| 23:21.14 | Pakal | if windows is on /dev/hda1, in grub/menu.lst is "root (hd0,0)" ?? |
| 23:21.29 | humbolt | do I have to be afraid of resizing an xp ntfs partition with the debian installer cd?? |
| 23:21.34 | Assassinater | hey |
| 23:21.47 | Assassinater | i got apache up and running now how do i add .php support? |
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| 23:21.57 | simonrvn | !php |
| 23:21.57 | dpkg | somebody said php was not asp. Can't get php to work? Remember that php3 looks for the extension .php3 ! .php is for php4 To change this, edit the mime type in httpd.conf. Get php3-mysql if you want mysql support too, or oh, and make sure to uncomment the php module from httpd.conf !!, or for php4, make sure this line is in httpd.conf: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so, or remember, there are quite a few debian users in #php |
| 23:21.59 | Assassinater | whenever i do a .php it says where to save |
| 23:22.07 | doub | trask: configure your interface : ifconfig eth0 [ip] to test, man interaces for permanent settings |
| 23:22.09 | humbolt | or should I get a windows tool for that job and install debian when it is done?? |
| 23:22.20 | Roadrunne | simonrvn: ok. i'll try it. just have to boot the old kernel due to the missing network module :-) |
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| 23:22.35 | simonrvn | humbolt: partition magic i hear is ok to resize stuff, then install debian |
| 23:22.40 | Assassinater | for LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so |
| 23:22.46 | Assassinater | where do i add it in httpd.conf |
| 23:22.51 | EfaistOs | to install gnome what is the name of the package ? |
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| 23:22.58 | simonrvn | read the file, you'll see it |
| 23:23.27 | Alleria | how can I wipe Evolution's settings? |
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| 23:23.38 | Alleria | nuking ~/evolution doesn't seem to get the mail settings. And I suspect those are borked. |
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| 23:23.55 | Assassinater | i dont see it |
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| 23:24.42 | domran | in gvim / vim .. is there any gui way of actually saving the settings we make ( color scheme ,etc).. instead of manually editing .vimrc ? |
| 23:24.48 | simonrvn | Alleria: later versions use ~/.evolution IIRC |
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| 23:25.08 | simonrvn | domran: no |
| 23:25.21 | Alleria | simonrvn: 1.0.5 here. but nuking the folder still leaves stuff. |
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| 23:25.41 | chugga | ugh. stupid work is borked! |
| 23:25.43 | chugga | !bork |
| 23:25.43 | dpkg | somebody said bork was to sexor as in "bork bjork", lart to death, or a nicer curse word, or the Swedish Chef's favorite word, or broke |
| 23:25.44 | komozo | Efaist0s: gnome |
| 23:25.50 | schuler | EfaistOs: do dpkg -S gnome |
| 23:26.37 | hogballs | is there anyway to delete linux and put windows on my cpu? |
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| 23:26.56 | simonrvn | you don't put an OS on a CPU |
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| 23:27.23 | zOap | Hey, need some help. I have a ess 1879 audio card which works on alsa with es18xx. The problem is, well, it isnt working. Bot alsaconf and modprobe wont work. Modprobe returns: No such device. I use debian sarge. Can anyone of you help me? do you know of another soundsystem that works? |
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| 23:27.37 | chugga | simonrvn, cpu can abbreviate computer |
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| 23:27.48 | hogballs | mine lol nforce2 |
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| 23:28.15 | chugga | zOap, if it helps alsaconf said the same thing to me but it worked anyway. |
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| 23:28.18 | bkw | what shall I ask dpkg when I want to know what basic packages I need to install a xserver on my system? |
| 23:28.24 | hogballs | aliens |
| 23:28.32 | hogballs | aliens built computerslol |
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| 23:28.34 | zOap | chugga. OK, hang on. I'll try |
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| 23:29.10 | bkw | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.11 | davi | How extract a file from a deb package ? |
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| 23:29.42 | hogballs | !google davi |
| 23:29.48 | dpkg | Google says davi is at http://www.cs.nyu.edu/cs/faculty/geiger/ or http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001108/ or http://www.imdb.com/Name?Davi,+Robert or http://www.davidimension.com/ or http://www.promau.net/ |
| 23:30.02 | Assassinater | how do i restart apache? |
| 23:30.12 | davi | !google hogballs |
| 23:30.16 | schue_ | /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 23:30.17 | chugga | Assassinater, /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 23:30.18 | dpkg | Google says hogballs is at http://www.thedieselstop.com/archives/ubbthreads/Other_Archives/forums.thedieselstop.com/archives/postlist.php-Cat=&Board=UBB31.htm or http://www.thedieselstop.com/archives/ubbthreads/Other_Archives/forums.thedieselstop.com/archives/postlist.php-Cat=&Board=UBB31&page=11&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=.htm or http://www.thedieselstop.com/archives/ubbthreads/Other_Archives/forums.thedieselstop.com/archives/postlist.php-Cat=&Board=UBB36&page=1&view=col |
| 23:30.18 | dpkg | or http://www.thedieselstop.com/archives/ubbthreads/Other_Archives/forums.thedieselstop.com/archives/postlist.php-Cat=&Board=UBB36.htm or http://www.thedieselstop.com/archives/ubbthreads/Other_Archives/forums.thedieselstop.com/archives/postlist.php-Cat=&Board=UBB36&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=.htm |
| 23:30.20 | doub | Assassinater: /etc/init.d/apache restart |
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| 23:30.23 | schuler | bkw: dpkg --print-avail xfree86 |
| 23:30.25 | Assassinater | this is wired |
| 23:30.31 | hogballs | lol |
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| 23:30.44 | chugga | hogballs piss off man, wtf are you on about |
| 23:30.48 | schue_ | !google schuessler |
| 23:30.52 | dpkg | Google says schuessler is at http://www.schuessler-mineralstoffe.at/ or http://www.admedes.com/ or http://home.mho.net/schuessler/ or http://www.kssingers.isp.ca/ or http://www.schuessler.dhu.de/ |
| 23:31.00 | schue_ | hrm. |
| 23:31.00 | hogballs | in debian as a noob |
| 23:31.06 | schue_ | !google "Ean Schuessler" |
| 23:31.11 | dpkg | Google says Ean Schuessler is at http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/resolutions/resolution-2002-12-17.wta.2 or http://www.spi-inc.org/news/2002/20021217 or http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/minutes/20030311 or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/03/msg00199.html or http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/02/msg00022.html |
| 23:31.14 | pngwn | how about you fucktards stop with the bot spew |
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| 23:31.17 | schue_ | oh brother. |
| 23:31.22 | chealer | stop it |
| 23:31.34 | hogballs | if u dont like it leave |
| 23:31.36 | hogballs | winer |
| 23:31.37 | hogballs | lol |
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| 23:31.56 | schue_ | chealer: hey, i didn't connect the stupid thing to the channel. |
| 23:31.58 | hogballs | i pay for my internet |
| 23:32.09 | schue_ | chealer: go cry to the sargent. |
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| 23:32.18 | pngwn | hogballs, you should have bought a fucking dictionary |
| 23:32.25 | hogballs | why |
| 23:32.26 | hogballs | lol; |
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| 23:32.37 | chugga | wow, he cares for punctuation.. |
| 23:32.42 | doub | !enter |
| 23:32.42 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
| 23:32.47 | hogballs | i dont care shit about punctuation |
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| 23:32.59 | schue_ | !? |
| 23:33.08 | hogballs | i dont cap my shit i dont period my shit and i dont care if i fuckin mispell shit so fuck u |
| 23:33.10 | hogballs | u |
| 23:33.10 | hogballs | u |
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| 23:33.15 | chugga | hogballs i wish soemone would punch you |
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| 23:33.25 | mrwoody | Hi *. Is it possible to mount /dev/dvd on a second pc using nfs? |
| 23:33.40 | chealer | !punch hogballs |
| 23:33.42 | hogballs | dont be a dick |
| 23:33.42 | mrwoody | wtf is going on in this channel? |
| 23:33.46 | RichiH | mrwoody: i would assume so, but i never tried |
| 23:33.48 | doub | mrwoody: possible but ugly using network block device |
| 23:33.52 | schue_ | mrwoody: /dev/dvd? |
| 23:33.59 | mrwoody | doub: any other solution? |
| 23:34.02 | x0563511 | Er, "acpi -t" is always reporting 65c |
| 23:34.02 | schue_ | mrwoody: yeah, what doub said. |
| 23:34.07 | doub | mrwoody: not that i know |
| 23:34.11 | Rawplayer | mrwoody: mount in on your machine and export the mount path |
| 23:34.11 | x0563511 | wtf |
| 23:34.11 | schue_ | mrwoody: mount it and nfs share it. |
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| 23:34.15 | schue_ | yep. |
| 23:34.17 | doub | mrwoody: you can stream its contents with vlc |
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| 23:34.18 | mrwoody | schue_: doub why uggly? |
| 23:34.19 | x0563511 | it reads my battery properly |
| 23:34.23 | trueno | Is there a way to know which packages were upgraded in the last apt-get upgrade? |
| 23:34.25 | hogballs | dont be a cockroach and act like u own this fucking channel |
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| 23:34.35 | chugga | whats with this fetish for mounting cds over a network - what advantage is over mounting the device locally and reading from that? |
| 23:34.41 | doub | mrwoody: because it can't cope with playing a DVD video nicely |
| 23:34.43 | schue_ | mrwoody: gnbd |
| 23:34.48 | mrwoody | doub: I don't want to use it to stream dvd... just want to use dvd as a media storage |
| 23:34.56 | x0563511 | hogballs: who are you yelling at? |
| 23:34.59 | mrwoody | doub: I was just talking about data.. no movies |
| 23:35.00 | idnar | !trollbait |
| 23:35.02 | hogballs | go home and change ur wet shitty diapers |
| 23:35.04 | hogballs | lol |
| 23:35.07 | hogballs | nobody |
| 23:35.07 | mrwoody | schildt: gnbd? |
| 23:35.15 | hogballs | hes cool with me talking to him like that |
| 23:35.16 | tyranix | x0563511: If you run apt-listchanges, it will mail the changelogs. |
| 23:35.25 | schue_ | mrwoody: network block device. |
| 23:35.33 | x0563511 | tyranix: what? |
| 23:35.36 | schue_ | mrwoody: lets you export a block device remotely. |
| 23:35.38 | mrwoody | Rawplayer: how to export the mount path? any docs? |
| 23:35.53 | mrwoody | schue_: any docs? |
| 23:35.57 | Rawplayer | google on nfs howto |
| 23:36.06 | tyranix | x0563511: If you have apt-listchanges installed, it mails you the list of changes after each upgrade. |
| 23:36.07 | schue_ | mrwoody: yeah. probably too hard. |
| 23:36.09 | doub | mrwoody: if you're about storing things; assuming you can use it as a mount point the simplest is NFS |
| 23:36.12 | mrwoody | Rawplayer: so it is still via nfs? |
| 23:36.16 | Rawplayer | yes |
| 23:36.17 | schue_ | mrwoody: buy another hard drive and back things up to your dvd. |
| 23:36.24 | chealer | trueno: apt-get -s upgrade |
| 23:36.27 | Roadrunne | btw. is there any benchmark for cpu and hdd? |
| 23:36.31 | x0563511 | tyranix: ok... but i don't know why you're telling me this |
| 23:36.40 | schue_ | Roadrunne: hdd == bonnie |
| 23:36.41 | mrwoody | schue_: that is not a solution |
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| 23:36.50 | schue_ | mrwoody: sure it is. :-D |
| 23:36.56 | tyranix | oh sorry, it was trueno |
| 23:37.00 | gary | Does anyone know how i can make debian insert a module all the time rather than my manually insmod'ing it? |
| 23:37.01 | x0563511 | !tell x0563511 about acpi |
| 23:37.12 | schue_ | gary: add it to /etc/modules |
| 23:37.18 | gary | lol, thank you |
| 23:37.30 | x0563511 | Grr. stupid HP laptop |
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| 23:37.33 | x0563511 | broken ACPI |
| 23:37.42 | x0563511 | always thinks it 65 degrees C |
| 23:37.49 | mrwoody | Rawplayer: the point is that if I export the whole / directory, it wouldn't export /mnt/dvd (even if it is mounted). So I have to export /mnt/dvd directly? |
| 23:37.55 | zOap | chugga, well the es18xx wont work for me.. any ideas? |
| 23:37.57 | x0563511 | and there is no way that thing is that hot. |
| 23:37.57 | Rawplayer | yes |
| 23:38.03 | schue_ | mrwoody: yep. |
| 23:38.04 | komozo | is there a channel for debian security ? |
| 23:38.04 | mrwoody | Rawplayer: ok thanks |
| 23:38.10 | mrwoody | schue_: thanks |
| 23:38.10 | abrotman | x0563511: linux-laptop.net |
| 23:38.36 | x0563511 | abrotman: lol. it's a little late, i already own it |
| 23:38.39 | hogballs | komozo no |
| 23:38.39 | trueno | chealer tyranix: Thanks |
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| 23:38.56 | Xemacs__ | I like ignire ;) |
| 23:38.58 | abrotman | x0563511: no shit sherlock .. fucking look for hints |
| 23:38.58 | hogballs | this channel sucks too as well so.... |
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| 23:39.05 | abrotman | hogballs: so leave |
| 23:39.07 | doub | mrwoody: if you're exporting to just one computer, there's an option to export a dir and subsequent mount points. but it's hazardous AFAIK |
| 23:39.11 | zOap | hoggba, shame one you |
| 23:39.24 | hogballs | <hehe zoap |
| 23:39.24 | abrotman | komozo: what about it? |
| 23:39.30 | mrwoody | doub: ok... but if nfs works, why you wouldn't suggest that? |
| 23:39.31 | kev1 | anyone! - in the main console, how do you increase your framebuffer, scrollback or whatever it is |
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| 23:39.37 | komozo | hogballs : ok, thanks |
| 23:39.39 | hogballs | <stuck in here |
| 23:39.41 | schue_ | mrwoody: is it a dvd-rw? |
| 23:39.52 | schue_ | mrwoody: of a dvd-r |
| 23:39.52 | mrwoody | schue_: just dvd-r, why? |
| 23:39.54 | pipeline | kev1: To increase the console resolution, boot with kernel argument "vga=<foo>" |
| 23:39.55 | abrotman | komozo: what do you want help with .. hogballs is being an ass |
| 23:40.00 | x0563511 | abrotman: my model isn't on there, and i've already had trouble with advice from similar models. Just enough is different to be a complete pain in the ass. |
| 23:40.02 | pipeline | kev1: vga=771 is 1024x768, IIRC |
| 23:40.05 | chugga | zOap, not really .. it could be bloody anything. what have you tried so far and with wht results? |
| 23:40.06 | schue_ | mrwoody: hmmm. i'm just skeptical of how that is going to work. |
| 23:40.09 | mrwoody | schue_: that is right... dvd-r mounted ro |
| 23:40.14 | doub | mrwoody: that's NFS i'm talking about. or maybe i misunderstood your question |
| 23:40.15 | schue_ | ohhhh. |
| 23:40.17 | schue_ | shit. |
| 23:40.20 | mrwoody | schue_: why? |
| 23:40.24 | hogballs | so is my kid hog balls2 |
| 23:40.26 | hogballs | lol |
| 23:40.27 | abrotman | hogballs: you're not in debian .. and if you don't leave .. you can be forced out |
| 23:40.29 | schue_ | mrwoody: yeah, just mount it and export the mount point. |
| 23:40.37 | hogballs | im so too in debian |
| 23:40.45 | slackd00d | vga=791 is 11025x768 |
| 23:40.49 | slackd00d | 1024 |
| 23:40.50 | schue_ | mrwoody: i thought you were trying to write to it over the network... |
| 23:40.54 | mrwoody | doub: I mean... I haven't tried that yet... but if i just mount /mnt/dvd in my machine A, and I export it to machine B, why would it be hazardous? |
| 23:40.58 | abrotman | hogballs: you told me this morning you installed knoppix |
| 23:41.00 | hogballs | and i dont wnt to leave till someone answers my question with an iq over urs |
| 23:41.12 | schue_ | mrwoody: wouldn't be. no problem. |
| 23:41.16 | hogballs | ok then |
| 23:41.16 | Roadrunne | idnar, simonrvn, schuler, dondelelcaro: module-init-tools was the key. thanks for help... |
| 23:41.20 | abrotman | hogballs: you're not using debian .. leave |
| 23:41.25 | komozo | abrotman: just to have news about security in general. what are areas in research... |
| 23:41.30 | hogballs | and i just installed net install of it |
| 23:41.32 | abrotman | hogballs: you're being a pain .. and generally rude |
| 23:41.34 | doub | mrwoody: no i mean, there's an option to export, say, / and have /mnt/dvd along with it, but this particular option is dangerous |
| 23:41.38 | zOap | Guys, im trying to get my es18xx card to work. alsa wont work. Any ideas of other sound systems that could work? |
| 23:41.44 | hogballs | well sorry fir the ruboff crap abrotman |
| 23:41.45 | doub | mrwoody: for reasons i don't quite get myself |
| 23:41.47 | schue_ | hogballs: run apt-get dist-upgrade and then you'll be running debian. |
| 23:41.48 | thenuke | zOap: oss? |
| 23:41.49 | abrotman | hogballs: really .. |
| 23:42.05 | mrwoody | doub: for security you mean? yes I realize that.. but since I am going to export it to a particular IP, is it still dangerous? |
| 23:42.11 | x0563511 | sooner we answer the damn question the sooner he goes away... |
| 23:42.11 | zOap | thenuke, no, it wont.. why i dont know.. how do i configure oss? |
| 23:42.11 | thenuke | zOap: I think I am having problems with alsa too :I using ubuntu.. |
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| 23:42.17 | x0563511 | that said, what is your question hogballs? |
| 23:42.21 | hogballs | yes ive been in debian now for like 4 hours |
| 23:42.25 | thenuke | zOap: dont know about that, check google :) |
| 23:42.27 | mrwoody | doub: what kind of danger you mean? |
| 23:42.30 | paulswm | seems like 24 to us |
| 23:42.34 | hogballs | ok |
| 23:42.35 | zOap | thenuke, yep, i tried that one. didnt work for me either.. |
| 23:42.39 | abrotman | hogballs: i doubt it |
| 23:42.49 | x0563511 | hogballs: your question is? |
| 23:42.50 | doub | mrwoody: exporting one mount point is fine. that's not about security, that's about file system corruption IIRC. man exports will tell you |
| 23:42.51 | zOap | thenuke, tried google, nothing.. |
| 23:42.53 | hogballs | how do i install a .bz2 file |
| 23:43.00 | slackd00d | jesus |
| 23:43.09 | hogballs | i do not want to extract it i just want a damn install |
| 23:43.13 | mrwoody | doub: that is scaring |
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| 23:43.19 | Nem[Laptop] | is there a debian sparc channel? |
| 23:43.23 | abrotman | hogballs: dpkg -l login |
| 23:43.25 | abrotman | what does it say? |
| 23:43.33 | slackd00d | hogballs, you have to extract it to install it |
| 23:43.38 | slackd00d | you cant just install it |
| 23:43.39 | abrotman | bah .. |
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| 23:43.45 | doub | mrwoody: many computer jargon words are scary, but that's just how they look |
| 23:43.50 | hogballs | ok generally what file after i extract it is the extention |
| 23:43.50 | RichiH | Nem[Laptop]: i think so, tried #debian-sparc ? |
| 23:44.02 | x0563511 | hog |
| 23:44.02 | slackd00d | hogballs, whats the file name |
| 23:44.03 | hogballs | like windows is either .msi or .exe |
| 23:44.08 | abrotman | hogballs: dpkg -l console-data |
| 23:44.11 | x0563511 | if it has a log of /usr /bin and such files in it |
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| 23:44.14 | Nem[Laptop] | RichiH: yeah.. there's five people in there... |
| 23:44.18 | abrotman | hogballs: well .. what does it say ? |
| 23:44.21 | x0563511 | go to root, log in as root, and run: |
| 23:44.28 | x0563511 | tar -xvjpf FILE.bz2 |
| 23:44.37 | x0563511 | but be careful |
| 23:44.41 | slackd00d | why the p? |
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| 23:44.48 | slackd00d | what does that do |
| 23:44.51 | x0563511 | preserve permissions |
| 23:44.59 | slackd00d | oh, heh, i never knew that |
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| 23:45.00 | abrotman | hogballs: what does it say? |
| 23:45.05 | slackd00d | i always used jxvf |
| 23:45.07 | hogballs | hold up fuck |
| 23:45.08 | slackd00d | thanks =) |
| 23:45.08 | x0563511 | that way you dont need to chmod the hell out of everything |
| 23:45.10 | Myren | how do i backdate a CVS entry? |
| 23:45.17 | Myren | or make it look like there was an earlier entry? |
| 23:45.20 | abrotman | it's not hard .. i gave you the exact command |
| 23:45.24 | dmz | why is my upgrade wanting to install caudium |
| 23:45.25 | x0563511 | slackd00d: np |
| 23:45.27 | RichiH | x0563511: with some tarballs, esp source, you don't want -p, imho |
| 23:45.37 | dmz | when i have apache already installed |
| 23:45.41 | x0563511 | RichiH: never had any problems, myself |
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| 23:45.45 | slackd00d | ya, that saves alot of time =) |
| 23:45.45 | RichiH | also, -v wastes precious screen space. if there is an erro, it will tell you, anyway ;) |
| 23:45.50 | x0563511 | RichiH: any heads up for me? |
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| 23:46.02 | x0563511 | RichiH: well, if you copy the output somewhere |
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| 23:46.10 | x0563511 | RichiH: you have a record of what it just did |
| 23:46.29 | chealer | dmz: sid? |
| 23:46.35 | abrotman | hogballs: why won't you tell me |
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| 23:46.54 | RichiH | x0563511: well, i never used -p on source tarballs, so i can't say if there are problems, usually. but i can imagine quite a few situations where you would need to chmod/chown as root afterwards. and that would cost you at least 20 extra keystrokes! |
| 23:46.59 | RichiH | so be careful, there ,) |
| 23:47.16 | hogballs | there has to be a script to allow mounting the ntfs partitions |
| 23:47.17 | RichiH | x0563511: most of the time, it unpacked stuff ;) |
| 23:47.18 | dmz | chealer yeah i think so, unstable=sid? |
| 23:47.24 | hogballs | im in gnome |
| 23:47.25 | RichiH | dmz: yep |
| 23:47.29 | abrotman | hogballs: what's the matter .. not running debian ? |
| 23:47.30 | x0563511 | hogballs: |
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| 23:47.33 | x0563511 | yes |
| 23:47.33 | hogballs | debian sarge |
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| 23:47.40 | dmz | so why does it want to install caudium |
| 23:47.55 | x0563511 | hogballs: mount -t ntfs /path/to/partitiondevice /mountpath |
| 23:48.00 | x0563511 | not that hard |
| 23:48.19 | fabietto | hi at all |
| 23:48.21 | abrotman | hogballs: dpkg -l console-data |
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| 23:49.34 | sh | hi |
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| 23:50.11 | chealer | dmz: uninstallable packages, most likely. try to update php and apache separately and you'll know why |
| 23:50.27 | x0563511 | anyone want to test my icecast server? |
| 23:50.43 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 23:50.44 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
| 23:50.51 | sh | x0563511: yep, me |
| 23:50.58 | sh | x0563511: hows the url? |
| 23:51.14 | x0563511 | hold on |
| 23:51.17 | jstevens | x0563511, what's icecast? |
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| 23:51.33 | x0563511 | jstevens: thing OGG over shoutcast |
| 23:52.00 | chugga | whts this about shoutcast? |
| 23:52.15 | x0563511 | sh: http://24.52.128.65:8000/bg64k.ogg OR http://24.52.128.65:8000/bg128k.ogg |
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| 23:52.17 | x0563511 | try the 64k one first |
| 23:52.23 | cyklus | I am in the Exim 4 configuration and I want to only be able to send outgoing email when im locally logged in.. what option should i choose or do i need to manually configure this? |
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| 23:53.00 | chugga | x0563511, are you streaming that? |
| 23:53.04 | x0563511 | yea |
| 23:53.17 | chugga | cool. how much bandwidth do you have? |
| 23:53.19 | x0563511 | i have a 5 connection max |
| 23:53.24 | x0563511 | because my upstream sucks |
| 23:53.29 | x0563511 | i can put on rammstein instead :D |
| 23:53.31 | chugga | so about a megabit then? |
| 23:53.55 | x0563511 | chugga: cable modem, low-mid range |
| 23:54.28 | _lupus_ | x0563511: this is soundtrack of some movie or ... ? :) |
| 23:54.33 | chugga | what are you streaming with - icecast2? |
| 23:54.35 | x0563511 | http://24.52.128.65:8000/rammstein64k.ogg OR http://24.52.128.65:8000/rammstein128k.ogg |
| 23:54.39 | x0563511 | yea, icecast2 |
| 23:54.49 | x0563511 | its the Baldurs gate 1 and 2 soundtracks |
| 23:55.02 | chugga | oh mad .. there isnt a ogg plugin for xmms otherwise i'd consider using it |
| 23:55.14 | abrotman | there is |
| 23:55.24 | Rambo3 | need for speed 2 underground has goof soundtrack |
| 23:55.44 | chugga | abrotman, i mean for streaming to shoutcast or ice |
| 23:55.45 | x0563511 | chugga: xmms handles OGG by default |
| 23:56.04 | bkw | I've installed gdm and it starts, but when I log in gnome doesnt start |
| 23:56.06 | x0563511 | someones tuned into rammstein :) |
| 23:56.11 | x0563511 | 2 in BG |
| 23:56.13 | bkw | what have I done wrong? |
| 23:56.22 | chugga | so i stream mp3, which is a bit crappy - its slow and the quality sucks at lower bitrates |
| 23:56.33 | _lupus_ | x0563511: icecast is working great |
| 23:56.37 | x0563511 | bkw: you need gnome as well. GDM is just the login manager |
| 23:56.45 | x0563511 | sweeet |
| 23:56.49 | bkw | x0563511: apt-get install gnome? |
| 23:57.01 | bkw | I want latest gnome... with sarge rc2 |
| 23:57.06 | x0563511 | bkw: apt-get install gnome-base i think |
| 23:57.23 | x0563511 | i used the aptitude tasks myself |
| 23:57.26 | chugga | i think your connection is saturated now :) im getting buffer problems |
| 23:57.35 | x0563511 | more than likely :) |
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| 23:57.53 | x0563511 | good thing i didnt link the 256k streams lol |
| 23:57.56 | bkw | x0563511 no gnome2-base or gnome-base |
| 23:58.15 | chugga | hehe yeah |
| 23:58.32 | x0563511 | bkw: checking |
| 23:58.43 | x0563511 | aaah |
| 23:58.44 | x0563511 | CPU slowing |
| 23:58.46 | jetscreamer | hey i know how to compile modules at th same tima as a kernel, but what is the procedure to compile a 3rd party module with a stock debian kernel and the kernel-headers? |
| 23:58.48 | trueno | x0563511: Works ok, buffer problems, but works :-) |
| 23:58.59 | jetscreamer | s/with/for/ |
| 23:59.02 | x0563511 | not bad for cheap cable over a low-quality wireless connection |
| 23:59.20 | Flimzy | jetscreamer: Generally, RTFM included with the 3rd party module. |
| 23:59.23 | bkw | ? |
| 23:59.24 | digital_ | bn tout le monde :) |
| 23:59.33 | x0563511 | bkw: gnome-core |
| 23:59.45 | x0563511 | theres a buttload of other things you are missing though |
