| 00:00.00 | cat | ok do this then |
| 00:00.16 | cat | apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:00.19 | cat | do that |
| 00:00.34 | BadMan | ok i got that from dpkg a sec ago |
| 00:00.51 | cat | just do that, that will automatic detect you'r drivers and etc.. |
| 00:01.00 | BadMan | ok |
| 00:01.15 | BadMan | im on a winders laptop thankfully I still had putty laying around hehe |
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| 00:02.06 | cat | nice, |
| 00:02.15 | cat | my dreams is to have a laptop, |
| 00:02.16 | BadMan | No X server known for your video hardware. |
| 00:02.22 | cat | what video card is it? |
| 00:02.39 | BadMan | eGeForce MX 4000 AGP 64mb |
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| 00:02.48 | cat | !egeforce |
| 00:02.56 | cat | is it compatible with linux? |
| 00:03.16 | BadMan | was working fine at 1280x1024 on woody with nvidia supplied driver |
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| 00:03.37 | cat | then put the nvidia drivers, |
| 00:03.46 | Silver | hehe, atleast my problem changed from screens found to no screens found, but it didn't really solve my problem =) |
| 00:03.50 | BadMan | now the driver compiler fails due to gcc 3 versus the one it was done with of gcc 2.95 |
| 00:04.11 | BadMan | let me go through the motions on the reconfigure |
| 00:04.25 | cat | BadMan: sent you'r errors to flood |
| 00:04.31 | cat | Silver: u two |
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| 00:04.41 | Silver | I wish I could, I can't copy and paste :| |
| 00:05.10 | BadMan | just a sec i going thorugh th e otions |
| 00:05.14 | BadMan | er motions |
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| 00:05.54 | teome | well, I'm used to slaclware and dont know this apt-get malarky, how can i do "apt-get dist-upgrade" and exclude a certain package? |
| 00:06.32 | teome | i know apt/preferences but i dont want to specify a version, i want to exclude it all together |
| 00:06.42 | teome | any ideas |
| 00:06.45 | skip_ | can anybody suggest a painless way of synchronising files between a laptop and a usb flash disk? (Similar to 'Briefcase' in Windoze) |
| 00:06.58 | dondelelcaro | skip_: rsync |
| 00:07.07 | BadMan | cat ready for #flood |
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| 00:07.16 | j_k | teome: you can use aptitude to do the upgrade if you want to tweak it. |
| 00:07.17 | skip_ | dondelelcaro: is that console-based? |
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| 00:07.26 | cat | yea |
| 00:07.32 | cat | go for i |
| 00:07.33 | cat | t |
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| 00:07.48 | michael | is 2.6.8 the most recent debian kernel? |
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| 00:08.29 | calin | 2.6.10 is the most recent |
| 00:08.40 | dondelelcaro | skip_: yes. |
| 00:08.52 | teome | ij_k: i'll look at that but would rather not install anything else, running pretty minimal mail server, is there another way? |
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| 00:09.11 | teome | j_K even |
| 00:09.16 | michael | calin: why cant i do apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.10 ? |
| 00:09.20 | skip_ | thank you. |
| 00:09.22 | teome | 2.6.11 is the most recent kernel |
| 00:09.41 | j_k | teome: you can always remove and install packages before and after the upgrade. |
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| 00:10.30 | teome | j_k: yeah i would do that but there is a specific package that screws the upgrade rendering all apt-get anything useless, but thanks |
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| 00:11.14 | teome | cant get through the upgrade at all |
| 00:11.14 | j_k | teome: you can also apt-get install some packages to upgrade only them. |
| 00:11.23 | calin | michael: http://www.kernel.org/ |
| 00:11.34 | teome | yeah, that would take me ages: 177 packages!! |
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| 00:11.51 | teome | but i may have t |
| 00:11.53 | teome | to |
| 00:13.07 | teome | there must be a way to exclude an unwanted package with apt-get dist-upgrade, surely |
| 00:13.22 | Grock | how to do apt-get install kernel 2.6.11 |
| 00:13.23 | niktaris | Question: why do I have during boot all letters in capital, with no formating and no colors? |
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| 00:13.44 | j_k | teome: well remove it or put it on hold before upgrading |
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| 00:14.30 | teome | j_k; put it on hold |
| 00:14.35 | teome | ? |
| 00:16.27 | teome | ok, i will try just removing it before upgrade. I guess that is quite an obvious answer, like i said: slackware user, not used to apt-get |
| 00:17.05 | teome | dont really like automated upgrade scripts |
| 00:17.32 | cat | how can u unzip a tar? |
| 00:17.46 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 00:18.07 | simonrvn | Grock: you don't. not yet |
| 00:18.45 | teome | Grock: just compile your own kernel, its really not that hard |
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| 00:20.53 | BadMan | arg so now I gotta try and download and burna cd from tty... I shoulda kept woody |
| 00:21.07 | Zap-W | is alsa driver supposed to create /dev/dsp and audio devices automaticlly after loading it? |
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| 00:21.18 | tazle | wonder how I soulh tell sudo to actually *use* timestamps |
| 00:21.25 | simonrvn | Zap-W: no |
| 00:21.30 | tazle | it seems that I have to write password every time now |
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| 00:22.01 | Zap-W | simonrvn: then how is it supposed to work? |
| 00:22.24 | tazle | some web page says that debian default timeout should be 15, but it asks for password every time |
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| 00:22.47 | tazle | also, setting timestamp_timeout in sudoers doesn't make any difference |
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| 00:23.13 | jcurry | I am trying to remove autofs with apt, but i get errors: http://pastebin.com/249499 |
| 00:23.41 | BadMan | how big is sarge rc2 net-installer? |
| 00:23.51 | cat | like 657 kb |
| 00:23.56 | BadMan | figures |
| 00:23.57 | cat | i believed or something like that |
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| 00:24.37 | BadMan | now I have to take my burner out of the debian box take it to town and install it there at a friends windows computer download it and try to burn it... |
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| 00:25.03 | BadMan | stew if you read this This is exactly why I didnt want to move to sarge now |
| 00:25.05 | simonrvn | Zap-W: you create it, like any other device file |
| 00:25.14 | aeromax85 | hey i have a strange problem with direct connect on gaim |
| 00:25.20 | aeromax85 | i can get it working on aim on windows |
| 00:25.25 | aeromax85 | but never on linux |
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| 00:25.47 | simonrvn | tazle: man sudoers, google it |
| 00:26.01 | The_Ball | BadMan, why are you not burning on your linux box? |
| 00:26.01 | Zap-W | simonrvn: with MAKEDEV? |
| 00:26.17 | cat | how can u open a tar file? |
| 00:26.22 | dondelelcaro | !tgz |
| 00:26.22 | simonrvn | Zap-W: MAKEDEV, mknod |
| 00:26.22 | dpkg | to unarchive: tar -zxvf blah.tar.gz, to create: tar -zcvf blah.tar.gz ... |
| 00:26.23 | cat | i mean rar |
| 00:26.24 | cat | sorry |
| 00:26.27 | cat | !rar |
| 00:26.28 | dpkg | i heard rar is an archiver used mostly by 3l33+ war3z d00dz ;), or unrar to unrar things, or the worst file format ever, designed by morons FFS, use split and cat like a sane person!, or (better get parchive too, lest your pr0n be incomplete) |
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| 00:27.14 | simonrvn | or gzipped .uu files ;p |
| 00:27.16 | BadMan | cause of kernel 2.4.18-bf2 likely |
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| 00:28.06 | si|vercat | Anyone know any generic values for horiz-sync/refresh of an older videoprojector..? |
| 00:28.14 | cnorton_ | is there something I can ask apt, that will tell me how to upgrade from woody to sarge? |
| 00:28.15 | BadMan | first I wouldnt have a clue as to where to begin burning form command line |
| 00:28.15 | The_Ball | BadMan, and what is wrong with that? |
| 00:28.19 | Zap-W | anyidea why sound sounds choppy in skype |
| 00:28.28 | simonrvn | cnorton_: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 00:28.42 | cnorton_ | simonrvn thanks |
| 00:28.45 | The_Ball | BadMan, ist's easy, man cdrecord |
| 00:28.52 | simonrvn | Zap-W: any idea when you'll ask a decent question? ;p |
| 00:28.53 | BadMan | The_Ball I am NEWB here me whine 8( |
| 00:29.08 | jcurry | woody->sarge |
| 00:29.10 | jcurry | I am trying to remove autofs with apt, but i get errors: http://pastebin.com/249499 |
| 00:29.26 | Zap-W | simonrvn: wasnt expecting a real answer :) .. |
| 00:29.27 | The_Ball | BadMan, i'll paste some in #flood |
| 00:29.44 | BadMan | ive got putty up on here looking at man cdrecord now |
| 00:30.06 | simonrvn | that's funny. "I AM N00B, HEAR ME WHINE F0X0RS!!!11" |
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| 00:30.30 | BadMan | The_Ball I have the ability I just have no clue.. sick of windows.. but this is jsut as heartbreaking |
| 00:30.33 | simonrvn | i embellished a bit. think it ruined it |
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| 00:30.45 | Flimzy | BadMan: what's your prob? |
| 00:30.55 | Zap-W | simonrvn: #linuxhelp |
| 00:31.00 | simonrvn | BadMan: describe the manner of the problem |
| 00:31.02 | Flimzy | BadMan: (aside from not knowing the difference between 'here' and 'hear') |
| 00:31.34 | simonrvn | don't /msg me |
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| 00:31.47 | Zap-W | who messaged you?> |
| 00:31.49 | Flimzy | simonrvn: okay, I won't |
| 00:32.10 | simonrvn | Zap-W: zap-w wants you to know /msg apt help |
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| 00:32.22 | Zap-W | are you talking to yourself? |
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| 00:32.35 | simonrvn | Zap-W: no, you made dpkg /msg me |
| 00:32.42 | asasa | buenas me podeis decir una source donde este el paquete gnome ? |
| 00:32.42 | Zap-W | when? |
| 00:33.45 | asasa | sources of gnome plase ? |
| 00:33.49 | The_Ball | BadMan, that script will burn a directory for you, and show you the command it uses |
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| 00:34.01 | simonrvn | 19:31:27= dpkg ) zap-w wants you to know: extra, extra, read all about it, help is /msg apt help |
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| 00:34.25 | simonrvn | asac: apt-get install gnome |
| 00:34.34 | BadMan | omfg that looks like a lot of crap form old dos programming in high school hehe |
| 00:34.58 | The_Ball | badblody, it's probably easyer to copy from here: Bash script to record the content of a dir to a cdr |
| 00:34.59 | The_Ball | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.59 | The_Ball | DEV="ATAPI:0,0,0" |
| 00:34.59 | The_Ball | SPEED=32 |
| 00:34.59 | The_Ball | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:35.07 | dvs | Nope |
| 00:35.13 | simonrvn | yeah! |
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| 00:35.22 | Zap-W | i can do that , 22:01:12= <simonrvn> Zap-W : i hate myself |
| 00:35.24 | The_Ball | sorry guys |
| 00:35.33 | BadMan | how aobut eamiling it I have to go through and strip all the name and crap out of it.... |
| 00:35.38 | ireverentReveren | i am trying to make a software raid, but mkraid /dev/md0 --really-force fails with "mkraid: aborted", and syslog contains the following:Mar 5 02:36:49 localhost kernel: md: could not bd_claim hdd. |
| 00:35.39 | ireverentReveren | Mar 5 02:36:49 localhost kernel: md: error, md_import_device() returned -16 |
| 00:35.44 | ireverentReveren | any suggestions? |
| 00:35.44 | simonrvn | Zap-W: that's from a log file you moron |
| 00:35.44 | The_Ball | BadMan, it's probably easyer to copy from here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UrgTMN74.html |
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| 00:36.04 | simonrvn | 19:31:27 Irssi: Starting query in freenode with dpkg |
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| 00:36.11 | Zap-W | me go play CS:S |
| 00:36.13 | simonrvn | --- Log closed ven mar 04 19:31:42 2005 |
| 00:36.46 | simonrvn | i have auto-log set to on |
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| 00:37.00 | Zap-W | why do you log irc chat |
| 00:37.34 | RotundRanter | ? |
| 00:37.42 | The_Ball | BadMan, when you have copied that to a file you have to make it executable: chmod +x FILE |
| 00:37.44 | Zap-W | ? i am out |
| 00:37.50 | BadMan | ok I have it put into a file in my user directory on my debian box via ssh |
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| 00:38.34 | BadMan | ok that sdone but I still have to dl the file.. how do you "type" in a url from lynx? |
| 00:38.43 | dvs | BadMan: g |
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| 00:38.59 | jcurry | I am trying to remove autofs with apt, but i get errors: http://pastebin.com/249499 |
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| 00:39.41 | BadMan | dvs thanks its in download now... |
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| 00:39.49 | dvs | BadMan: np |
| 00:39.57 | BadMan | about 110mb? |
| 00:40.16 | dvs | BadMan: Sounds like a net install CD ;-) |
| 00:40.20 | BadMan | ok |
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| 00:41.03 | BadMan | I still dont think I will be able to burn it form command line due to my 2.4.18-bf2 kernel... thats why everyone was telling me to go with sarge... |
| 00:41.22 | The_Ball | BadMan, if you are burning the net install to a cdr you do not need that script |
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| 00:42.12 | BadMan | .... The_Ball so what do I need then hehe |
| 00:42.17 | ireverentReveren | with devfs how do i uninitialize a device (md0) and or recreate it? |
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| 00:43.05 | Bizarro_paco | i am trying to install x windows with gnome, and it apperas that it isn't loading properly, and i cannot tap into the /var/log/xFree86.0.log. |
| 00:43.14 | The_Ball | BadMan, cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 FILE |
| 00:43.22 | Silver^ | Can someone please tell me where I can find information about getting a USB mouse to work? :) |
| 00:43.23 | The_Ball | BadMan, would probably do the trick |
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| 00:43.30 | BadMan | thats it? |
| 00:43.32 | BadMan | lol |
| 00:43.48 | jim | BadMan: do you have woody now? |
| 00:43.52 | BadMan | well when the file is done I guess i will give it a try... may take a while |
| 00:43.52 | nvz | Bizarro_paco, you need be root, to read /var/log |
| 00:43.55 | dvs | D'oh! |
| 00:44.00 | BadMan | jim yes had its kinda buggard now |
| 00:44.08 | jim | in what way |
| 00:44.25 | BadMan | in trying to follow the woody->sarge |
| 00:44.29 | dvs | nvz: My XFree86.0.log file is world readable |
| 00:44.39 | jim | and the buggerness is why you're not trying to upgrade? |
| 00:44.41 | The_Ball | cdrecord -scanbus will show you if you need any other numbers that 0,0,0 |
| 00:44.42 | nvz | dvs, good for you :P |
| 00:45.03 | Bizarro_paco | nvz, i am root |
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| 00:45.23 | jim | can't see anything :) |
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| 00:45.27 | Flimzy | Bizarro_paco: What happens when you try to read the log file? |
| 00:45.39 | BadMan | yeah kinda wha i was thinking... |
| 00:46.25 | BadMan | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
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| 00:46.41 | ireverentReveren | if i delete or move /dev/md0 how can i replace it? |
| 00:46.42 | Bizarro_paco | well, i may not be doing it right; i cd to /var/log; and i go to nano to try to read the XFree86.0.log, and nothing happens. |
| 00:47.03 | nvz | I think I had better go throw together some kind of PC.. talking in here from windows is pointless... |
| 00:47.25 | tam | stupid question and i have read the manpage. how do i download everything in say www.mydomain.com/tam/ and nothing outside that directory. wget -r doesn't do that and neither does wget -m. any help on this would be great |
| 00:47.36 | dvs | Bizarro_paco: try "less" |
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| 00:48.00 | green_earz | BadMan: have a look at the howto may be of help > http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~help/unix_linux/linux/linux_cdwriter.html |
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| 00:51.05 | Bizarro_paco | dvs: using 'less' worked out...i got to see my log file |
| 00:52.44 | BadMan | 21mb of 110 this is a sad excuse for dsl but where I live at im Lucky |
| 00:53.10 | BadMan | faster than a disconnecting dialup! |
| 00:53.41 | Bizarro_paco | i am haivng trouble installing gnome. according to the XFree86.0.log file, it says xf86ReadBIOS: Failed to open /dev/mem; AND xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 |
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| 00:54.48 | BadMan | ouch |
| 00:54.51 | BadMan | Fatal: Illegal 'root=' specification: /dev/device |
| 00:55.14 | BadMan | i guess I buggard that... How do I find out which "device" is my burner |
| 00:55.18 | caphuso | damn, no cobol compiler in debian :-( |
| 00:55.22 | BadMan | mywould that be hdd? |
| 00:55.42 | caphuso | BadMan: is it slave on the second ide channel? |
| 00:55.49 | BadMan | yes |
| 00:56.18 | caphuso | BadMan: then it is indeed /dev/hdd |
| 00:56.24 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: did you apt-get x-window-system-core first ? |
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| 00:57.13 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz, I believe i did apt-get install x-window-system, and THEN apt-get install gnome. |
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| 00:57.49 | cafuego | !tell drfox -about root |
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| 00:58.43 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: just check to see if the xserver stuff is installed run apt-get install x-window-system and it should say all ready installed |
| 00:58.44 | BadMan | hmmmm |
| 00:58.49 | BadMan | still nothing |
| 00:58.53 | bahamat | ok, I'm cleaning up a stupid error |
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| 00:59.03 | brosio | hi, i've a keyboard with control for music and audio option, how could i set the key on linux ? |
| 00:59.07 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz, I just did, and i says its already installed. |
| 00:59.12 | bahamat | is there any way you guys know of to mount an ext3 volume and ignore permissions? |
| 00:59.41 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: dose startx do any thing |
| 00:59.49 | BadMan | I have 2 hds(hda and hdb) 2 cdroms(52x creative is hdc knows) but hdd is unknown yet I see it listed as "Samsung Cmobo drive" when it boots |
| 01:00.12 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz, when i do startx, it gives me a couple fatal errors. |
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| 01:01.18 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: so your xserver is falling over, must need configuring |
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| 01:01.52 | BadMan | hdd is listed in /dev/ |
| 01:01.52 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz, so are you saying i do dpkg-reconfigure x server-xfree86? |
| 01:01.54 | doub | bahamat: i'd suggest using chmod |
| 01:02.12 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: yes |
| 01:02.25 | bahamat | doub: no... |
| 01:02.38 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz, any idea where i should start? |
| 01:02.52 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: do you know what the refreshs are for the monitor |
| 01:02.58 | bahamat | a nameless lackey screwed up /etc/pam.d/common* |
| 01:03.25 | bahamat | booted with init=/bin/bash because I couldn't get in any other way, then found I couldn't edit the files |
| 01:03.26 | doub | bahamat: root bypasses all permissions on local disks |
| 01:03.35 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: so info about your monitor ver hor refresh rates |
| 01:03.37 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz, well, its an older IBM thinkpad; it came with a 500mHz Celeron and Win2nd, and I don't know the exact refresh rate. |
| 01:03.47 | bahamat | doub: I had to force writes |
| 01:04.02 | BadMan | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 01:04.10 | bahamat | it's rebooting right now...I think it'll be ok |
| 01:04.20 | doub | bahamat: if you boot using /bin/bash, chances are your root will be left read-only, as it is by default upon launching init |
| 01:04.24 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: so its a lcd display ?? |
| 01:04.38 | bahamat | doub: I know, but I remounted it rw |
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| 01:05.21 | N}{N[]O | uis perdon :( |
| 01:05.23 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz, I don't know...but the scary thing is that when i do the dpkg command, it says 'x' is not installed and no info is available, even though its already installed. |
| 01:05.27 | BadMan | well, I have about 40mb of a file I prolly ownt be able to do squat with... |
| 01:05.33 | bahamat | ok, well, I got it back |
| 01:05.38 | bahamat | anyway...thanks guys |
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| 01:05.42 | doub | bahamat: so what happens when you try to edit the files? |
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| 01:05.59 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: apt-get saying it there |
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| 01:06.44 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz, u mean apt-get x-window-system again? |
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| 01:07.12 | BadMan | is there a some module I need to load for the samsung cdrw/dvd drive...? |
| 01:07.16 | BitShifter | apt-get can't seem to find anything |
| 01:07.17 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: your video card info lspci -l and track it down. so you can find the info to install its driver |
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| 01:07.25 | BitShifter | whatever i do, it says package could't be found |
| 01:07.27 | BitShifter | what do i do? |
| 01:07.31 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: no |
| 01:07.32 | BitShifter | it can't even find kernel sources |
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| 01:07.55 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz, u mean apt-get dpkg-reconfigure x server-xfree86? |
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| 01:08.42 | BitShifter | hello |
| 01:08.49 | bob_ | hi |
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| 01:09.19 | doub | BitShifter: i'd suggest running apt-setup |
| 01:09.28 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: use apt-get dpkg-reconfigure and let it use auto detact |
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| 01:10.40 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: sorry that was wrong |
| 01:10.46 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz,okay |
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| 01:11.09 | BitShifter | Dou |
| 01:11.10 | BitShifter | doub |
| 01:11.12 | BitShifter | i ran it |
| 01:11.17 | BitShifter | still same issue |
| 01:11.25 | jsn | I've got a weird issue. Can't tell whether its linux or just my installation. I go to booknotes.org, select a program, but none of them load. |
| 01:11.35 | BadMan | uhh on this page: http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~help/unix_linux/linux/linux_cdwriter.html does root=/dev/device want my root dev as in hda3? |
| 01:11.38 | jsn | I have luck with other streaming video. |
| 01:11.54 | doub | BitShifter: did you run apt-get update ? |
| 01:11.56 | green_earz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.05 | BitShifter | yes, but the url was already in the sources.list |
| 01:12.12 | BitShifter | maybe this stupid ubuntu source doens't ahve any packages? |
| 01:12.17 | BitShifter | can you suggest some source? |
| 01:12.20 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz,do i type apt-get before that? |
| 01:12.30 | jsn | BadMan, yes. |
| 01:12.44 | doub | BitShifter: if you're using ubuntu, #ubunto is your friend |
| 01:12.45 | jsn | BadMan, remember to run lilo -v after you change the file |
| 01:12.52 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: the problem may be that the wrong video driver is being installed. |
| 01:12.56 | BitShifter | those people are idiots |
| 01:13.00 | BitShifter | god knows what htey're tlakin about |
| 01:13.05 | doub | BitShifter: s/ubunto/ubuntu/ |
| 01:13.05 | BitShifter | issues of life or something |
| 01:13.09 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: no just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:13.13 | BitShifter | this is a apt-get thing though |
| 01:13.24 | BitShifter | not really specific to ubuntu |
| 01:13.30 | BadMan | jsn whats the -v do? |
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| 01:13.41 | jsn | BadMan, verbose output |
| 01:13.41 | BitShifter | can you take a peak in your /etc/apt/sources.list and see what you're using? |
| 01:13.45 | BadMan | ok |
| 01:13.45 | doub | BitShifter: this looks specific to ubuntu's repository, not debian's |
| 01:14.18 | BadMan | dont see no errors |
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| 01:14.44 | BitShifter | what's there specific about it? |
| 01:14.46 | BitShifter | its just apt-get |
| 01:14.50 | BitShifter | it can't find packages in general |
| 01:14.58 | BitShifter | all it needs is a source with stuff in it |
| 01:15.10 | jsn | Anyone mind checking booknotes.org for me? To see if they can load a program? |
| 01:15.21 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: please refrain from over using your enter key. |
| 01:15.38 | jsn | Select Stream Video and any program. |
| 01:15.43 | BitShifter | are you here to teach me manners? :P |
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| 01:16.07 | cnorton_ | [dpkg(~dpkg@dpkg.user)] well, woody->sarge is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, |
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| 01:16.09 | doub | BitShifter: are you here to get any sort of help? |
| 01:16.13 | green_earz | Bizarro_paco: use it a few times to get the feel of it. then track down your video card info so you can install its driver. with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 01:16.36 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz,okay |
| 01:16.40 | BitShifter | well obviously you're not helping |
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| 01:16.50 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: which package are you actually looking for? |
| 01:16.52 | BadMan | im still not getting a good response on cdrecord -scanbus |
| 01:17.01 | green_earz | np |
| 01:17.07 | dondelelcaro | BadMan: have you specified a reasonable -dev too? |
| 01:17.14 | dondelelcaro | BadMan: probably cdrecord -scanbus -dev ATAPI |
| 01:17.39 | jsn | Well, another time maybe. |
| 01:17.40 | BitShifter | ndiswrapper, kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386 |
| 01:17.45 | BitShifter | kernel-sources-2.6.8 |
| 01:18.26 | BadMan | hmm look in #flood |
| 01:18.38 | EvanCarr4ll | hrm the FHS states that there must be aprogram called fastboot, and fasthalt in /sbin; why doesn't conform to it? |
| 01:18.57 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: uh, those packages are not in unstable at all. |
| 01:19.03 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: apt-cache search kernel-imagee-2.6.8 |
| 01:19.36 | BitShifter | unstable? |
| 01:19.43 | BitShifter | why would I look for them in unstable |
| 01:20.37 | EvanCarroll | hrm FHS also talks about an 'update' program |
| 01:20.52 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: they're not in sarge either. As those are the only two versions of Debian that have 2.6.8 distributed, you'd have to be looking in one or the other. |
| 01:20.56 | kenboo | is dpkg dead? |
| 01:21.01 | dondelelcaro | kenboo: no, it's not. |
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| 01:21.06 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: presumably you mean 2.6.8-10 or something |
| 01:21.21 | kenboo | i guess i'm being ignored...heh |
| 01:21.31 | BitShifter | so what do I need to do to get those? |
| 01:21.35 | BitShifter | what source do i need? |
| 01:21.50 | BitShifter | i'm looking at this ndis installation tutorial and they're using apt-get to get all this stuff |
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| 01:22.46 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: what in the world are you actually doing? |
| 01:22.59 | BitShifter | installing my wireless card with this ndiswrapper! |
| 01:23.01 | kenboo | dondelelcaro, dpkg says nothing when i asked about 'mod_rewrite' |
| 01:23.17 | dondelelcaro | kenboo: because it doesn't know anything about mod_rewrite... what about it do you want to know? |
| 01:23.59 | kenboo | uhhhh really. i thought dpkg would say "stop smoking weed" kind of thing when he didn't know about it |
| 01:24.04 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: so use the kernel source that corresponds to the kernel that you actually have installed. |
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| 01:24.19 | xerlik | hi |
| 01:24.22 | BitShifter | but thats the kernel i have installed dude! |
| 01:24.23 | dondelelcaro | kenboo: no, it often won't respond, because it tries to ask other bots to see if they know as well |
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| 01:24.42 | kenboo | oic...smart |
| 01:24.47 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: that version is no longer distributed by Debian because it has numerous bugs. Upgrade your kernel to one that actually is distributed. |
| 01:24.59 | BitShifter | hmm |
| 01:25.16 | xerlik | Anybody speak spanish :S |
| 01:25.25 | dondelelcaro | xerlik: #debian-es |
| 01:25.31 | xerlik | tnx |
| 01:25.38 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: if you really need that version, and know absolutely what you're doing, find it on #debian-es |
| 01:26.00 | BitShifter | i;m not spanish dude |
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| 01:26.17 | dondelelcaro | s/debian-es/snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 01:26.31 | BitShifter | the hell with that |
| 01:26.33 | BitShifter | i got it working |
| 01:26.46 | BitShifter | found a good source |
| 01:26.47 | BitShifter | sheesh |
| 01:26.54 | BitShifter | thats all i had been asking for the past 20 minutes |
| 01:27.09 | dondelelcaro | !ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 01:27.09 | dpkg | ndiswrapper one-liner is probably apt-get install build-essential ndiswrapper-source module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
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| 01:28.01 | BitShifter | don't worry.. i'm getting the kernel sources.. sheesh,i should have just downloaded the tarball |
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| 01:28.06 | BitShifter | :P |
| 01:28.14 | BitShifter | i've nbever used debian based distros before |
| 01:28.18 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: good luck getting that to work, since the Debian sources are heavily modified. |
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| 01:28.27 | BitShifter | trust me, i'll get it to work |
| 01:28.52 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* why bother to ask at all then? |
| 01:29.03 | laicosa | hi everyone, is x.org available on unstable? |
| 01:29.10 | dondelelcaro | laicosa: see /topic |
| 01:29.12 | BitShifter | dude |
| 01:29.17 | BitShifter | i was mere asking for damn sources for apt :P |
| 01:29.22 | BitShifter | i dunno what you made out of it |
| 01:29.26 | BitShifter | but that was all I asked! |
| 01:29.30 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: and the sources for apt are available at snapshot.debian.net |
| 01:29.33 | BadMan | getting closer... have to reboot debian to see if my changes take hold |
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| 01:29.57 | Bizarro_paco | green_earz,when i startx,it says Cannot open /dev/tty0..what is that? |
| 01:30.02 | dondelelcaro | BitShifter: however, whatever howto you're following is not the easiest way to proceed. See the oneliner that dpkg gave earlier. |
| 01:30.06 | BadMan | gotta wait for file to finish only at 75mb |
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| 01:31.22 | LeBear | hey hey |
| 01:31.23 | BitShifter | well that failed |
| 01:31.26 | BitShifter | also wants kernel sources |
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| 01:32.15 | LeBear | Quyestion. I'm trying to do a big apt-get remove, and it's telling me it wants to remove a bunch of stuff like base-config or kernel-image-2.4.27... Is there a way to find out what dependencies are causing those to be added to the list? |
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| 01:32.21 | BadMan | of 110196 KiB of data, 25 KiB/sec. |
| 01:32.47 | BadMan | hmm cant copy moving numbers on putty |
| 01:32.50 | BadMan | lol |
| 01:33.05 | doub | LeBear: you can try using aptitude |
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| 01:33.25 | LeBear | ehh.. but I like apt-get. There's no param or command to see the deps? |
| 01:33.27 | underdog | hi guys. does anyone know if debian already uses Xorg? |
| 01:34.03 | BadMan | lol myabe first few words of topic should deal wirh x.org hehe |
| 01:34.05 | darkstar | underdog: read topic |
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| 01:34.20 | doub | LeBear: with apt-cache you can do so |
| 01:34.30 | Bizarro_paco | i am trying to install gnome...it says fatal server error:xf860Open COnsole: cannot open /dev/tty0 |
| 01:34.35 | doub | LeBear: but walking a dependency tree by hand is not quite easy |
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| 01:35.14 | LeBear | yeah.. that's why I want apt-get to do it. hehe something like apt-get --why-are-you-removing-those-too remove mylistofpackages |
| 01:35.29 | nuix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:35.52 | paolo | Hi guys! My testing box is sometimes experiencing sound departure (gnome sounds). 6 hours ago it worked, I let the box switched on and now when I returned the gnome system sounds doesn't work. On the contrary, if I speak in the microphone, I can hear it in the loudspeakers. Any idea of the reason? |
| 01:36.08 | dondelelcaro | nuix: cd /dev; MAKEDEV std; assuming you're not using udev or something, anyway. |
| 01:36.09 | underdog | BadMan: it's dated october 2004... |
| 01:36.26 | digital__ | bn tout le monde :) |
| 01:36.27 | BadMan | huh? |
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| 01:36.50 | underdog | The url dpkg gives me is dated October 2004 |
| 01:37.10 | underdog | "As of this writing (October 2004)[...]" |
| 01:37.15 | nuix | dondelelcaro, thank you sincerely |
| 01:37.21 | underdog | wich means it should be in sarge already, no? |
| 01:37.26 | lane | okay, question. When I try to play an audio CD in the Gnome CD player, I'm getting a disk error. When I try to mount a data CD, it is saying not a valid device. I'm sure everything's hooked up properly. |
| 01:37.46 | dondelelcaro | underdog: which url? |
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| 01:38.15 | BadMan | http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans |
| 01:38.23 | DebUser | lane, I don't think mounting audio cds in necessary |
| 01:38.29 | DebUser | *is |
| 01:38.31 | underdog | yeah BadMan, that one |
| 01:38.33 | dondelelcaro | underdog: yes, that's the actual information from the X maintainers, so it's accurate. |
| 01:38.35 | lane | DebUser, it's not. However, I tried mounting a DATA CD. |
| 01:38.43 | doub | lane: if you're shure it's not a config error, and you tried many different CDs, then maybe you have a HW problem |
| 01:38.43 | DebUser | Oh |
| 01:38.48 | dondelelcaro | underdog: the plan is to transition to Xorg after sarge is released. |
| 01:38.53 | underdog | ah ok |
| 01:38.54 | laicosa | dondelelcaro thx for /topic ;) |
| 01:38.55 | underdog | thanks |
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| 01:39.14 | lane | doub, is there a way I can check the config of the CD drive? (I'm new to Debian) |
| 01:39.18 | lane | Well, new to linux in general. |
| 01:39.18 | dondelelcaro | underdog: however, useful parts of Xorg *have* been making it into the X that's in Debian... we're up to a few megabytes worth of patches. |
| 01:39.19 | BadMan | 90mb |
| 01:39.38 | BitShifter | yo, you need to modify that onliner to have m-a PREPARE ... |
| 01:39.48 | BitShifter | because it bitches about kernel headers otherwise |
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| 01:40.11 | BadMan | god my dsl is lame! I want 1.5mb instead of 350kb hehe |
| 01:40.29 | BadMan | guess I gotta move to get that |
| 01:40.44 | Bizarro_paco | i am just really confused here..cannot install gnome..i have never had this problem before...startx is giving me confusing messages |
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| 01:40.55 | Jacco | Hai. |
| 01:41.03 | Jacco | How do I set up an FTP server on Debian? |
| 01:41.08 | doub | lane: it's hard to have it all checked at once. see if /cdrom in /etc/fstab points to the right /dev |
| 01:41.10 | Jacco | or is it, by default, running one? |
| 01:41.21 | LeBear | Hrmm.. I think I found a misguided dependency. |
| 01:41.33 | LeBear | Why is dselect essential to my install? |
| 01:41.33 | doub | lane: then do the same for gnome cd player (don't know it though) |
| 01:41.58 | lane | I know gnome cd player points to /dev/cdrom |
| 01:41.59 | Jacco | ... |
| 01:42.02 | Jacco | hello, anyone here? |
| 01:42.05 | Jacco | That's listening? |
| 01:42.09 | Jacco | To my... question..... |
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| 01:42.35 | lane | jacco, you may want to try apache for that, my guess. |
| 01:42.42 | Bizarro_paco | (Jacco): i feel like you do..LOL i am confused here as well and noone seems to care. |
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| 01:42.47 | Jacco | lance: apache is now an ftp server. |
| 01:42.48 | Jacco | ? |
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| 01:43.09 | lane | apache is a web server in general. I am just assuming it does FTP as well. |
| 01:43.20 | BadMan | wuftpd? |
| 01:43.24 | laicosa | Jacco apt-cache search ftp server |
| 01:43.26 | Jacco | stuftpd. :D |
| 01:43.29 | Jacco | okay. |
| 01:43.31 | Jacco | thanks, laicosa. |
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| 01:43.59 | DebUser | proftpd |
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| 01:44.48 | silver | !tell silver about usb mice |
| 01:45.35 | LeBear | apt: tell me about why dpkg depends on dselect |
| 01:45.44 | LeBear | hrmm you don't know either, eh? |
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| 01:46.36 | Jacco | ftp.us.debian.org is loaded. :( |
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| 01:47.54 | doub | lane: so be shure /dev/cdrom points to the right /dev/ (/dev/hd[something] or /dev/scd[something] usually) |
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| 01:52.44 | JediMaster | what's the "offical" way to change the hostname on debian? |
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| 01:53.13 | JediMaster | hostname "newhost.domain.tld"? and do you need to update /etc/hostname? |
| 01:53.37 | m0p | hmm, when I try to unmount my cd drive, it always says that the drive (cdrom0) is busy, and it seems to make a copy of it named cdrom which both goto the same disk |
| 01:53.47 | m0p | is there anyway around this? |
| 01:54.30 | BadMan | ok, when your debian system boots where would i look to see what hardware etc that i locates and recognizes |
| 01:54.39 | laicosa | m0p: u may try to find which file is used with lsof | grep /cdrom |
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| 01:55.31 | LeBear | hrmmm base install of 255meg.. that's not too bad.. |
| 01:55.34 | Bizarro_paco | i am trying to install gnome, and startx is givimg me fatal errors. |
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| 01:55.50 | rixth | How can I view Postfix's mail queue? |
| 01:55.54 | calin | What do I need tog et to use a .jad file? |
| 01:56.00 | calin | s/tog et/to get/ |
| 01:56.07 | Irrumator | Did anyone install udev on Debian? |
| 01:56.13 | BadMan | umm for some oddball reason xstarted and prompted me to login... logged in and kde 3.3.2 is loading I swear I didn't do it! |
| 01:56.25 | ambycrao | I`m a newbie at linux, i just got my ssh server running, i can connect to it from my other computers behind the router, but not from computers outside. anyone know how to get that work ? |
| 01:56.43 | m0p | hmm, comes up with 5 entries. all point to /media/cdrom |
| 01:57.09 | Jacco | Bleh. |
| 01:57.12 | Jacco | X server. |
| 01:57.16 | Jacco | I've given up the X server. |
| 01:57.20 | Jacco | I use only the console now. |
| 01:57.24 | m0p | lol |
| 01:57.32 | Jacco | Since X won't work with my virtual pc. |
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| 01:57.40 | Jacco | And It's funnnnnn! XD |
| 01:57.43 | Bizarro_paco | what does xf86ReadBIOS: Failed to topne /dev/mem mean? |
| 01:57.47 | rixth | popa3d isn't cutting it as a pop3 server, can anyone reccomend a good one? |
| 01:58.09 | laicosa | m0p: mount | grep /media ? |
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| 01:58.46 | aurax | hello |
| 01:58.52 | aurax | anyone here uses intel mobo D915GAV ? |
| 01:59.22 | m0p | that says "/dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=mop)" |
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| 01:59.31 | linC | hi |
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| 01:59.45 | linC | i'm use debian testing and i'm getting this message : "The installation engine (ikernel.exe) could not be installed. File not found" when i launching Dreamweaver MX installer whith wine ( i've installed dcom98.exe before ) anyone can help me ? |
| 01:59.54 | m0p | hmm, seems like there is 2 copies of my cddrive :x |
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| 02:00.36 | m0p | so, anyone have a solution? |
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| 02:01.27 | slocate_ | what's a good newsreader? |
| 02:01.55 | rixth | Can anyone join me in #flood? SOmething fairly major has come up |
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| 02:02.20 | LeBear | is someone flooding #flood? |
| 02:02.23 | rob0 | what about, rixth? |
| 02:02.31 | aurax | anyone ? |
| 02:02.51 | rixth | rob0, apt-get not be able to remove package |
| 02:02.53 | rixth | s |
| 02:03.05 | rob0 | oh I couldn't help with that |
| 02:03.15 | rixth | Thanks anyway |
| 02:03.25 | m0p | This CD drive thing is getting annoying, I have to reboot before I can retrieve cd's alot of the time. |
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| 02:03.31 | alisson | Hello all!! Please, i am newbie in debian config files. Where could i find a file like rc.local in rc init files? |
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| 02:04.08 | rixth | dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 2 |
| 02:04.12 | BadMan | where does lynx save downloads by default? |
| 02:04.16 | rixth | dpkg: error processing xmail (--configure): |
| 02:04.17 | rixth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.25 | rixth | Sorry, for the semi flodd, but can anyone help |
| 02:04.28 | drac | BadMan: to directory where you typed 'lynx' |
| 02:04.45 | drac | BadMan: or your home. |
| 02:05.12 | m0p | no one can help with my cd problem? :( |
| 02:05.20 | BadMan | I cant find the netinstaller I jsut frigging downloaded!!!!! |
| 02:05.30 | alisson | where can us write a init commands in debian? |
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| 02:05.49 | ferris | m0p, what is the problem |
| 02:05.54 | nvz | I need some help, the only thing I have right now to get online with is a Linksys 802.11b USB adapter. I dont know anything about wireless to know how to setup my running system to use it, and the sarge installer didnt detect it. |
| 02:05.59 | m0p | I seem to have 2 copies of my cddrive. |
| 02:06.10 | m0p | in /media I have cdrom and cdrom0. |
| 02:06.14 | drac | alisson: initscripts go to /etc/init.d, and you should read 'man update-rc.d' |
| 02:06.26 | m0p | when I mount cdrom, cdrom0 mounts. And when I unmount, cdrom0 is still busy. |
| 02:07.08 | m0p | I also have the 2 drives in /mnt. But, only 1 device appears in /dev. |
| 02:07.11 | aurax | so anyone here working with D915GAV mobo ? |
| 02:07.18 | alisson | drac, ok, very thanks. Some doubt can I ask to you? |
| 02:07.20 | BadMan | m0p did you leavea program open that was using the cdrom? |
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| 02:07.29 | m0p | Nope. |
| 02:07.34 | doub_ | . |
| 02:07.44 | intact | hello? |
| 02:07.56 | drac | alisson: sure, but better to ask from everybody here. :) |
| 02:07.59 | m0p | I've closed all programs using the drive and it still fails to unmount. |
| 02:08.04 | intact | guys, I am new here, please give me some help. |
| 02:08.13 | alisson | drac: ok, heheh :) |
| 02:08.19 | m0p | occasionally, it unmounts fine, but alot of the time it just says that cdrom0 is busy. |
| 02:08.20 | BadMan | see if the process maybe did not die.... |
| 02:08.44 | m0p | hmm, is there any way to remove this second drive? |
| 02:08.46 | ferris | m0p, i think you will have to logout |
| 02:08.48 | drac | alisson: check out also packages 'rcconf', and 'sysv-rc-conf', tools for init. |
| 02:09.00 | ferris | intact... what is the issue? |
| 02:09.10 | doub_ | m0p: fuser -m [cd mount point] will tell you if any process uses the fs |
| 02:09.23 | intact | no, I don't have any issue right now. |
| 02:09.23 | blue_ | wheres the wine config file? |
| 02:09.39 | laicosa | m0p: may be your /etc/fstab have more than one entry for your drive? |
| 02:09.40 | intact | but I want to try to use Debian, |
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| 02:09.54 | m0p | How do I remove it then? (I'm a newb) |
| 02:09.55 | cHaPlinux | Which the name of font of the Debian name? |
| 02:09.56 | drac | blue_: after first start, ~/.wine/config |
| 02:09.57 | intact | So I want to get familiar with people here to find help if necessary. |
| 02:09.59 | ferris | intact... debian rocks |
| 02:10.02 | intact | :-) |
| 02:10.18 | blue_ | thanks, wines a pain to get working |
| 02:10.21 | ferris | this is a good channel... you may also wish to try #oklinux |
| 02:10.21 | intact | Yeah, I am using Hiweed/Debian 0.6, very nice. |
| 02:10.26 | alisson | ok drac, I will try to understand it......i come from slack, and there i just edit rc.local, but here i didn't find anything like that |
| 02:10.32 | ferris | Cybodog is most helpfule |
| 02:10.36 | doub_ | intact: just install it, and come back if you have a problem then |
| 02:10.40 | intact | Thank you, I will try this one first. |
| 02:11.06 | intact | I am using this one now. Although I don't know much about this. |
| 02:11.09 | ferris | that is good .... he his watching some sci-fi |
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| 02:11.32 | rob0 | alisson: what are you wanting to run at boot time? |
| 02:11.44 | m0p | hmm, can I edit fstab without causing any problems? |
| 02:12.01 | intact | the only bad thing is when I was using Firefox to browse some website, The process hang up. |
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| 02:12.09 | m0p | if I remove the second entry for my cddrive, it will just take effect on reboot right? |
| 02:12.12 | rob0 | I am a Slacker too, but you have to be careful doing things the Slack way on Debian. :) |
| 02:12.17 | alisson | rob0, is just some chmod and ln commands, some special modprobe for HP49G+ too |
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| 02:12.31 | laicosa | m0p: yep |
| 02:12.58 | alisson | rob0, yes, I saw that......i am reading rc-update manual now to understand it |
| 02:12.59 | m0p | what's mtab may I ask? |
| 02:13.05 | rob0 | sounds like maybe a udev issue, am I right alisson? |
| 02:13.19 | rob0 | I mean the chmod and ln |
| 02:13.27 | intact | mtab is a file to record your partitions already mounted. |
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| 02:14.11 | alisson | rob0, yes, the main cause is udev. |
| 02:14.40 | laicosa | m0p: i think you dont have to edit mtab, not sure.. |
| 02:14.53 | rob0 | the modprobe thing is easy: list in /etc/modules |
| 02:14.56 | m0p | "/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0" is in my fstab. Should I just change "/media/cdrom0" to "/cdrom"? |
| 02:14.57 | alisson | rob0, in the slack i resolved chmoding again some files to work....this is not correctly, but it had resolved |
| 02:15.05 | m0p | or "/media/cdrom"? |
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| 02:15.26 | alisson | rob0, but this modprobe have some special atributes. it will work? |
| 02:15.32 | intact | normally you can establish a link to it. |
| 02:15.34 | rob0 | modules.conf |
| 02:15.43 | m0p | there only seems to be once instance of /dev/hdc in fstab... |
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| 02:15.50 | laicosa | m0p: like u want, the idea is to have only one /dev/hdc, whatever the mount point |
| 02:16.10 | atm | Hi, I am trying to copy some multimedia files from a DVD to HDD. The files are full of errors. While copying for a few secounds I get an information that there is a mistake and I can't proceed. How can I copy the multimedia files even though they are corrupted? |
| 02:16.15 | m0p | but there is only ONE instance of /dev/hdc as I have just said. |
| 02:16.27 | laicosa | m0p: ok the problem is elsewhere |
| 02:16.39 | alisson | rob0, /etc/modules.conf.........ok, but the chmoding some /dev drivers, what should i do? |
| 02:16.40 | laicosa | m0p: no clue, sry |
| 02:17.28 | drac | alisson: there might be another solution for those too.. what do you actually want chmodded? |
| 02:18.20 | lakcaj | Am I going crazy, or did there not used to be a vlc package in debian testing? Now I can only find the vls server. I have main, contrib, and non-free for a single mirror. |
| 02:18.43 | alisson | drac, I installed my modem. It create the device in /dev/ttySHSF0. But it don't link to /dev/modem. I am trying to link and chmod it |
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| 02:19.10 | rob0 | alisson: /etc/udev/permissions.d and others in /etc/udev (I bet, not sure) |
| 02:19.21 | alisson | drac, i know that udev resolv it, but i don't know edit these files, is so complicate |
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| 02:19.45 | alisson | rob0, humm, i was trying some differente files |
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| 02:19.58 | alisson | rob0, very thanks, i will try these files |
| 02:20.01 | paolo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.02 | findlay | doesn't seem as bad as #gentoo |
| 02:20.04 | Becca | Hi... I just purchased a microsoft trackball explorer mouse.... does anyone know what mouse settings it needs in x, or a page that can tell me how to determine it? |
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| 02:20.15 | Becca | I'm using it through a usb hub, if that matters. |
| 02:20.32 | rob0 | Becca, I have one, it's a 7-button mouse |
| 02:20.49 | Becca | Yea.. I just modprobed usbmouse and it magically worked. |
| 02:20.54 | Becca | Is this normal? o_o |
| 02:21.08 | atm | Hi, I am trying to copy some multimedia files from a DVD to HDD. The files are full of errors. While copying for a few secounds I get an information that there is a mistake and I can't proceed. How can I copy the multimedia files even though they are corrupted? Can you help me? |
| 02:21.23 | rob0 | yeah, but you need the ZAxisMapping and Buttons specified |
| 02:21.26 | findlay | atm: dd? |
| 02:21.30 | drac | Becca: modprobe loads modules into your kernel, so you kind of 'installed driver' |
| 02:21.37 | lakcaj | atm, how are you trying to do it now? |
| 02:21.39 | doub | atm: copy them with dd and "conv=noerror", look at man dd for details |
| 02:21.53 | Becca | Well, the scroll wheel, thumb clicker and trackball work |
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| 02:22.16 | Becca | drac: I am used to the age when you needed to tell X that you had a different mouse installed |
| 02:22.23 | rob0 | ah. Does anything NOT work as you expect then? |
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| 02:22.34 | Becca | I hadn't thought my laptop mouse and my usb mouse would use the same set up |
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| 02:22.39 | neo10-CZE_ | I need help /usr/bin/php4 .. whitch package can install it? |
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| 02:23.14 | atm | doub, findlay: thx |
| 02:23.16 | Becca | How do I adjust click sensitivity? The one button is fairly hard to get clicking |
| 02:23.22 | Becca | and its the primary clicker, apparenty |
| 02:23.30 | m0p|pinged | damn internet! |
| 02:24.04 | drac | neo10-CZE_: apt-cache search php4 |
| 02:24.06 | rob0 | hmmm not sure. I still mostly rely on my old serial Logitech Trackman Marble. :) |
| 02:24.24 | neo10-CZE_ | drac: I installed php4, php-dev and php-gd |
| 02:24.27 | Becca | I was honestly expecting a three hour fight to get this to work. |
| 02:24.33 | rob0 | for that very reason, in fact, I couldn't get used to the MS one. |
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| 02:24.59 | m0p|pinged | as I was saying, in my fstab I only have one instance of /dev/hdc, but in /media and /mnt there is 2 instances. In fstab, /dev/hdc is cdrom0. So, do I want to just rename it's mount point to /media/cdrom? |
| 02:25.22 | drac | neo10-CZE_: php4-cli: usr/bin/php4 |
| 02:25.48 | neo10-CZE_ | thanks |
| 02:25.50 | neo10-CZE_ | :-) |
| 02:25.53 | drac | neo10-CZE_: apt-file is for searching file inside packages. apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search <filename> |
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| 02:28.19 | LeBear | Hah! I just about asked a erally stupid question hehe |
| 02:28.20 | LeBear | I rock. |
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| 02:28.32 | BadMan | I still cannot find the ido i dl'd using lynx via ssh as a reg user |
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| 02:28.41 | BadMan | er ido/iso |
| 02:28.55 | LeBear | find / -name '*.iso' |
| 02:29.16 | m0p | ok, I've edited fstab. now I guess I need to reboot |
| 02:29.25 | rob0 | m0p: haha no |
| 02:29.28 | ferris | LeBear.... do you mean like .... 'How do I turn on my computer?' |
| 02:29.31 | m0p | err? |
| 02:29.34 | Thaiger | Hi I want to try emulating windows inside debian, what would everyone recommend bochs or qemu? |
| 02:29.43 | laicosa | m0p: I guess :) |
| 02:29.56 | LeBear | ferris: ok.. I'll faux ask.. hehe <scrolls up> |
| 02:30.05 | LeBear | ferris: "Question. I've got a debian installed kernel and kernel source on my box now... I'm trying to compile something and it's saying that /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h is missing. Shouldn't that be created already? " |
| 02:30.19 | m0p | I renamed the single instance of /dev/hdc from /media/cdrom0 to /media/cdrom |
| 02:30.25 | ferris | lol |
| 02:30.26 | m0p | that should solve it right? |
| 02:30.42 | nuix | Thaiger, do u use win4lin or vmware? |
| 02:30.44 | ferris | ;P |
| 02:30.51 | Thaiger | nuix: no |
| 02:30.56 | LeBear | ferris: I just installed the kernel-source package.. tried to compile.. didn't work.. was going to ask.. but I looked first. The kernel package doesn't untar the source. :) |
| 02:31.05 | nuix | Thaiger, what's it? |
| 02:31.11 | laicosa | m0p: i dont understand why you cant unmount your drive.. |
| 02:31.16 | ferris | lol |
| 02:31.21 | m0p | it fails to unmount. |
| 02:31.26 | m0p | just says that it's busy. |
| 02:31.28 | Becca | Thanks everyone :) |
| 02:31.38 | rob0 | find out why it's busy |
| 02:31.41 | m0p | even after logging in and out. |
| 02:31.45 | Thaiger | nuix: I'm sorry, but what do you mean? |
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| 02:32.07 | laicosa | m0p: thats wierd |
| 02:32.07 | m0p | hmm, what command did you say earlier would find out which processes are using the drive? |
| 02:32.12 | rob0 | fuser -vm /dev/hdc # if that's the one that's busy |
| 02:32.12 | alisson | drac: i found a file named links.conf. Should I edit this file to make a link? |
| 02:32.17 | m0p | k |
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| 02:32.31 | debhead | how can you tell if you are running alsa or oss |
| 02:32.32 | laicosa | lsof for files currently used |
| 02:32.43 | rob0 | yeah lsof is probably better |
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| 02:32.52 | rixth | Can someone please take a look at http://pastebin.arslinux.com/1398 and help me out with that? It's an apt related issue. |
| 02:32.54 | nuix | do u want to use ms windows under debian? |
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| 02:33.22 | drac | alisson: i'm not too familiar with udev :/ |
| 02:33.34 | rob0 | debhead: lsmod ... "snd-" modules are ALSA |
| 02:35.10 | debhead | looks like the sarge installer put in oss by default, the mixer is oss based |
| 02:35.23 | BadMan | its gone no friggin clue where it went |
| 02:35.28 | NaRCoT | I'm trying to view windows share dirs on my other PC using 'smb4k' and it don't accept the Username & Password I gave it. Tried two diff users, changed password on the win PC, tried again and nothing... the PCs are on the same LAN using the same workgroup, same subnet. 'smb4k' finds both PCs...Any Ideas? |
| 02:35.34 | m0p | stupid xfree86, it gets angry just because I don't have a PS-2 keyboard plugged in pff. |
| 02:36.10 | LeBear | Woot! it's compiling! hurray for me :) |
| 02:36.29 | debhead | is there a decent howto out there for setup alsa on debian an amatuer can understand? |
| 02:36.52 | BadMan | downloading it, again this time through kde 3.3.2 which remind me a lot of xp... sad... may have to switch to gnome... |
| 02:36.56 | drac | debhead: /msg dpkg alsa |
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| 02:37.13 | ferris | rixth... line 08 says that it is not either installed or removed completely.... |
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| 02:37.27 | ferris | i would try to install it again and then uninstall it |
| 02:37.42 | BrutusLinux | what is a good program I can get through apt-get that is a good php editor? |
| 02:37.47 | ferris | maybe you have tried this already |
| 02:37.56 | ferris | bluefish |
| 02:38.14 | BrutusLinux | yea I have used it |
| 02:38.14 | BadMan | welp be back later or tomorrow Im off to play some poker |
| 02:38.17 | BadMan | l8r |
| 02:38.25 | rixth | ferris: No go, takje a look at http://pastebin.arslinux.com/1399 |
| 02:38.42 | m0p | hmm, now it's saying "mount: can't find /media/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" |
| 02:38.48 | m0p | seemed like the editing wasn't a success |
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| 02:39.33 | LeBear | ARgghhh.. segfault? |
| 02:39.44 | LeBear | my compile segfaulted. I'm not happy now. |
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| 02:40.11 | rixth | ferris: also, my line 08 is 'Need to get 0B of archives.' |
| 02:40.25 | ferris | rixth, 006 1 not fully installed or removed. ..... |
| 02:40.31 | rixth | Oh yes, I see, on line 1 |
| 02:40.35 | rixth | 7* |
| 02:40.41 | ferris | have you tried to install it? and then uninstall? |
| 02:40.45 | alisson | drac: heheee..............i am lost then, hahahhah :) |
| 02:40.51 | rixth | apt-get remove purge xmail does not fix it either, nor does dpkg -r xmail |
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| 02:41.14 | m0p | hmm, I changed it back to cdrom0, and it now mounts flawlessly as cdrom0. |
| 02:41.14 | rixth | It was installed for a few hours, while I tested it, then I uninstalled it |
| 02:41.14 | drac | alisson: dpkg -L udev, it has so many configuration files i'm afraid to guess ;) |
| 02:41.20 | ferris | i dunno then... |
| 02:41.23 | ferris | sorry |
| 02:41.29 | NaRCoT | Where can I get help with 'smb4k' ? |
| 02:41.31 | rixth | With no error, I went to install another mail server, and it wanted to remove xmail, and when it did so, it failed |
| 02:41.59 | ferris | try asking the Cybodog in #oklinux ... if no one here can help |
| 02:42.19 | rixth | Ill do that |
| 02:43.11 | artega | I'm trying to get ssl working with my apache2 installation. Everything seems to be okay till I actually goto request the page and then i get "Invalid method in request \x80g\x01\x03" |
| 02:43.36 | artega | its on debian.. and i'm pretty sure ssl is enabeld.. |
| 02:44.06 | m0p | hmm, now /cdrom can't be mounted or unmounted and doesn't seem to point to /media/cdrom0 anymore. |
| 02:44.22 | artega | since i get [notice] Apache/2.0.53 (Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.1.3 mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.3.5 mod_ssl/2.0.53 OpenSSL/0.9.7e configured -- resuming normal operations |
| 02:44.23 | alisson | drac, no problem.......i will try something here! |
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| 02:44.32 | alisson | drac, very thanks for help |
| 02:44.57 | artega | if anyone could direct me to somewhere more suitable to ask my question perhaps? |
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| 02:45.47 | debhead | it says it is configured but is not runningfro some reason |
| 02:46.18 | LeBear | Question: If a compile segfaults, is that usually a hardware error, or can it be the fault of the code? |
| 02:46.21 | laicosa | m0p: my fstab: /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 02:46.29 | artega | yeah thats what i figure too... all searches for the error come up with something along the lines of enable ssl support.. |
| 02:46.37 | LeBear | I'm compiling uclibc on testing, and I get a segfault when it gets to tcgetsid.c |
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| 02:47.25 | debhead | a lot of newbs I see |
| 02:47.32 | laicosa | m0p: where /dev/cdrom is a symlinks to /dev/hdc |
| 02:47.42 | m0p | err |
| 02:47.45 | m0p | hmm |
| 02:47.47 | rixth | debhead, was that really needed |
| 02:48.33 | m0p | But I don't understand why renaming /media/cdrom0 to /media/cdrom caused it to be unmountable. |
| 02:48.36 | m0p | hm |
| 02:48.39 | drac | LeBear: why are you compiling it? why not just apt-get install it? |
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| 02:49.10 | LeBear | drac: mostly for my own benefit.. I want to build this box by hand.. |
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| 02:49.31 | drac | LeBear: then perhaps you aren't running right distro for that kind of madness. |
| 02:49.43 | LeBear | err? |
| 02:49.51 | LeBear | no.. I'm pretty sure debian is the right distro. |
| 02:50.13 | drac | it is, but not is you want to compile everything by hand ;) |
| 02:50.18 | debhead | this is the challenge to show then the light of secure computing |
| 02:50.23 | LeBear | uclibc != everything. |
| 02:51.06 | m0p | In /dev I seem to have 2 links. one named cdrom and the other named cdrw. Could this be the problem? |
| 02:51.18 | debhead | I sudo for most things and only use root if I have to |
| 02:51.19 | artega | in my experience going outside of apt-get is asking for trouble unless you're very good at keeping all these details in your head... but i guess you knew that already.. |
| 02:51.31 | m0p | both are links to /dev/hdc |
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| 02:51.57 | debhead | actually what about wget |
| 02:52.24 | debhead | I did a bootstrap install of sid that way |
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| 02:53.03 | laicosa | m0p: dont think so, have you try something like mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /cdrom ? |
| 02:53.16 | artega | but anyway... my apache2/ssl question... is there somewhere i might be able to ask it again? |
| 02:53.21 | Becca | Hey, got a problem. I have a keyboard plugged into my laptop via USB, and my mouse routing through my keyboards usb hub |
| 02:53.36 | Becca | Debian is not recognizing either of these as active devices, and keep shutting off my screen |
| 02:53.37 | m0p | I don't think /cdrom was a mount point to begin with ;/ |
| 02:53.41 | Becca | is there a way I can prevent this? |
| 02:54.13 | ferris | debhead... bootstrap != netinstall ? |
| 02:54.18 | laicosa | m0p: or /media/cdrom if u you have no /cdrom |
| 02:54.31 | debhead | something like that |
| 02:54.59 | ferris | bootstrap = min install? |
| 02:55.08 | debhead | Becca: do you have udev and hotplug configured |
| 02:55.13 | drac | m0p: those are just directories, you can mount your cdrom wherever you want, just make it match with /etc/fstab. |
| 02:55.37 | Becca | debhead: not a clue |
| 02:55.53 | Becca | What is udev and hotplug? I know I can plug in devices and remove them as I see fit |
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| 02:56.02 | Becca | So I'm assuming thats what hotplug does? |
| 02:56.30 | m0p | Hmm, I think I get it. So devices are basicly mounted as directories which can be anywhere on the filesystem? |
| 02:56.50 | drac | m0p: yep |
| 02:57.04 | debhead | Becca: Apt-get install hotplug , if it is intalled, it will say you have the current version |
| 02:57.19 | debhead | if not it will install it |
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| 02:57.30 | Becca | Well, I'll see what it does first, I don't like randomly installing packages :) |
| 02:57.47 | debhead | I think udev also has to be in there as well |
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| 02:58.02 | m0p | ok, when I write an fstab entry, it's loaded straight away right? or does it require a reboot? |
| 02:58.17 | debhead | hotplug is a plug and play driver for linux |
| 02:58.40 | Becca | Which won't even operate under my kernel |
| 02:58.46 | m0p | sorry for my noobish questions, but I am almost a complete noob when it comes to linux/unix style systems. |
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| 02:58.56 | laicosa | m0p: you can do it without a reboot when the unmount works correctly |
| 02:58.56 | scorphus | hi all! I'm trying to boot a notebook via tftp but no success. Can someone with experience with this help me? |
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| 02:59.31 | m0p | hmm, I think I am better off without 2 mount points. since I think that's what caused the conflict all along. |
| 03:00.21 | Becca | Would I be better off just to tell X not to shut off the screen after x amount of time? |
| 03:00.32 | m0p | Hmm, I don't see why Debian bothers with a media directory. Usually drives have mount points in /mnt am I right? |
| 03:01.08 | debhead | Becca, what did it say when you tried that |
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| 03:01.15 | sean_micken | m0p, we've gotta be different you see. |
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| 03:01.23 | maher | m0p: its part of the new lsb/fsh |
| 03:01.46 | m0p | hmm, so debian uses /media instead of /mnt for removable media? |
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| 03:02.07 | stew | m0p: yes, /msg dpkg fhs |
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| 03:02.30 | drac | m0p: you don't have to, you can even remove whole /media directory :) |
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| 03:02.38 | m0p | It's a bit wierd imo. Since none of my drives or removable drives are displayed in /mnt |
| 03:02.53 | Becca | debhead: I didn't bother to try it. I read apt-cache show and I KNOW my kernel does not fit the requirements |
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| 03:03.03 | Becca | I'm using one of the last 2.4 kernels, while it requires 2.6 |
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| 03:03.19 | Becca | Obviously, it will not run on the system, and I don't have the time or energy to upgrade my kernel tonight |
| 03:03.30 | debhead | what kernel are you using |
| 03:04.21 | Becca | 2.4.27 |
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| 03:04.23 | NaRCoT | Can anyone help me with 'smb4k' ?? |
| 03:04.35 | calin | Delta is onjoin spamming |
| 03:04.38 | debhead | what is the hard ware? |
| 03:04.43 | debhead | thinkpad? |
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| 03:04.52 | calin | !ops Delta is onjoin spamming |
| 03:04.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Delta is onjoin spamming |
| 03:04.59 | m0p | Hmm, how would I make a mounting point to my root and home partition in /mnt? nothing appears there right now and I don't wanna add another mounting point in case I get that annoying mounting issue. |
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| 03:05.11 | NaRCoT | nevyn, you use smb4k, right ? |
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| 03:05.22 | calin | thank you |
| 03:05.27 | ElectricElf | No probs |
| 03:05.32 | nevyn | NaRCoT: no. |
| 03:05.41 | calin | damn |
| 03:05.51 | calin | i wish first-time compiles took less time |
| 03:06.01 | calin | or that i had a cluster to compile over or something |
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| 03:06.09 | NaRCoT | nevyn, Sorry, I thought you advised me to use it.. |
| 03:06.21 | NaRCoT | anyone here uses smb4k? |
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| 03:06.49 | Becca | Is there an xset command I can use to prevent the screen from blanking out? |
| 03:06.54 | Becca | Or a different command? |
| 03:07.52 | m0p | anyone? |
| 03:08.16 | atm | I have some problem with python dependencies... how can I just get rid of python for a while? ;) |
| 03:08.27 | jim | Becca: I think the kernel does the blanking... maybe it has a switch |
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| 03:08.41 | m0p | hmm, what will happen if I change my mounting point for /dev/hda1 to /mnt/hda1? will it make the root fs inaccessable? |
| 03:08.42 | artega | atm: learn the wonders of apt-get :p |
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| 03:09.20 | Becca | jim: Ouch. Hmm. I BET I could tell it to not blank out in the bios... as long as linux and sleepd will still function after that |
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| 03:09.43 | Becca | I remember I had some way to bypass the blanking out before, and I can't remember for the life of me how I did it |
| 03:09.50 | Becca | I -thought- it was an xset command |
| 03:09.53 | jim | well, not sure about that part |
| 03:09.56 | Becca | but I can't blooming find it :) |
| 03:10.04 | tazle | simonrvn: sure, that's what I meant by setting it |
| 03:10.06 | atm | artega: I try apt-get remove --purge python2.3 |
| 03:10.09 | m0p | anyone? :( |
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| 03:10.30 | jim | I do remember you could build the kernel to not do it |
| 03:10.32 | root___ | Hey, when i select a terminal from ctrl+alt+f# |
| 03:10.34 | root___ | oops |
| 03:10.40 | m0p | I need to know before editing this so I don't ruin everything. |
| 03:10.40 | dli | which package provides "host" ? |
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| 03:10.41 | tazle | simonrvn: however, there was no observable effect when I put "Defaults timestamp_timeout=15" in there |
| 03:10.49 | laicosa | m0p: files in /dev/ are devices used by the kernel, you can change /dev/hda1 to something else |
| 03:10.59 | laicosa | *can't |
| 03:11.55 | m0p | I mean, if I want to have a mounting point for hda1 in /mnt/hda1, what will happen if I change /dev/hda1's mounting point in fstab to /mnt/hda1? |
| 03:11.56 | dli | laicosa, m0p means the mounting point :( |
| 03:12.17 | m0p | will it make the root fs inaccesible since it's current mount point is /? |
| 03:12.26 | dli | m0p: what's it now? |
| 03:12.31 | m0p | it's / |
| 03:12.39 | jim | m0p: let's assume you do that, and then you mount something on /mnt... |
| 03:12.44 | dli | m0p: then, you need another rootfs |
| 03:12.48 | jim | can't see it anymore |
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| 03:12.51 | m0p | hmmmm |
| 03:13.16 | dli | jim: he can, if he boots with another rootfs, say, rootfs on cd, or nfsroot |
| 03:13.20 | Delicates | is there an easy way to get a string containing an IP address of an interface? |
| 03:13.31 | m0p | how can I make hda1 automaticly appear in /mnt when it's mounted? I've seen it done before. |
| 03:13.39 | peterS | Delicates: you're assuming there is exactly one of those |
| 03:13.46 | dli | Delicates, ifconfig|grep |
| 03:13.59 | peterS | Delicates: on my system I have an interface with no IP address and an interface with multiple IP addresses |
| 03:14.00 | jim | you -don't- want that |
| 03:14.09 | jim | that's -not- what /mnt is for |
| 03:14.15 | m0p | oh. |
| 03:14.18 | m0p | what is it for? |
| 03:14.29 | jim | so you can mount things on it |
| 03:14.33 | m0p | oh. |
| 03:14.47 | m0p | So /media does the same job as /mnt, but for removable media? |
| 03:14.48 | jim | like say I want to look at a cdrom |
| 03:14.50 | dli | m0p: for user side file systems |
| 03:14.57 | m0p | Ohh! Got it now. |
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| 03:15.16 | jim | I could do... mount /dev/hdc /mnt |
| 03:15.52 | m0p | So, if I added a new partition, /mnt is where it's mount point should be created? |
| 03:16.06 | jim | (assuming I have a cdrom on the secondary master ide controller) |
| 03:16.23 | jim | not necessarily |
| 03:16.27 | dli | m0p: you can mount to any existing dir, and it will shadow the existing one |
| 03:16.30 | jim | you can mount on any directory |
| 03:16.35 | m0p | k. |
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| 03:17.20 | jim | one result of this, is you could mount a 100g drive on /home/mOp/ |
| 03:17.29 | dli | m0p: since it will shadow the one there, you'd better creat them in /mnt, to make sure it shadow none |
| 03:17.46 | m0p | k, so I could use an extra filesystem inside that filesystem? |
| 03:17.52 | jim | yes |
| 03:17.53 | humbolt | when I want a script to be executed as root, not with root permissions but as root, so I can execute iptable commands for example, what can I do? |
| 03:18.28 | m0p | Ok, got it now. |
| 03:18.55 | jim | in fact, I normally do my machines as if they are servers, and I usually have anywhere from 7 - 12 mounts |
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| 03:19.03 | humbolt | setuid bit does only grant me the right of the owner, but does not make me root |
| 03:19.42 | cat | how can u take pictures any specifig program? |
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| 03:20.00 | m0p | Hmm, my unmounting problem seems to have vanished. |
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| 03:20.12 | jim | humbolt: grants the program, but yes |
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| 03:21.07 | humbolt | but executing an iptables command from a script owned by root with setuid bit, does not work. |
| 03:21.28 | jim | no, that would be a gaping security holw |
| 03:21.28 | humbolt | iptables v1.2.11: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root) |
| 03:22.19 | humbolt | so how can I make this script set my iptables when I execute it as normal user? |
| 03:22.21 | humbolt | su? |
| 03:22.28 | humbolt | sudo |
| 03:22.42 | jim | if you're playing with iptrables, just have a root shell... this is not normally recommended, but you can do it |
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| 03:23.26 | humbolt | a root shell? the script will be executed by pam_script |
| 03:23.52 | jim | what is it you're trying to do? |
| 03:24.07 | Becca | Anyway, thanks for trying to help. Later ya'll |
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| 03:24.20 | humbolt | adding some user specific iptables on login and deleting them on logout |
| 03:24.46 | humbolt | I have the pam_script module, but I need it to execute the script as root |
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| 03:25.21 | humbolt | It says, it has that functionality built in, but it is buggy, so I need a workaround |
| 03:25.46 | jim | what about using a perl script and using suidperl? |
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| 03:26.14 | cat | is there any program to take pictures with my webcam if it works? |
| 03:26.15 | humbolt | what does what |
| 03:26.39 | jim | cat: probably |
| 03:26.47 | cat | probably? |
| 03:27.04 | jim | yeah, since lots of linux folks have webcams |
| 03:27.11 | m0p | hmm, what filesystem would you recommend? I'm thinking of installing sarge on my other computer. |
| 03:27.22 | jim | some of them must have wrote something :) |
| 03:27.31 | cat | is a vga webcam |
| 03:27.39 | m0p | I have reiserfs 3.6 on here at the moment and it works fine, but I don't know which other ones are good. |
| 03:27.55 | rob^ | ext3 is reliable |
| 03:28.02 | jim | ext2 is slow but solid, |
| 03:28.22 | jim | xfs is fast and solid |
| 03:28.25 | cat | is there any program at all? |
| 03:28.27 | rob^ | yeah.. |
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| 03:28.37 | cat | so i can take my pictures is a digital webcam, |
| 03:28.45 | rob^ | I used to use reiserfs, until I lost a heap of stuff |
| 03:28.46 | m0p | which is overall the best, and I thought XFS was experimental? |
| 03:28.46 | humbolt | jim: what about reiserfs? |
| 03:28.51 | jim | reiser is said to be fast but it has corruption problems |
| 03:29.03 | micky | does anyone here own an Apple Power Book G4 or an iBook? |
| 03:29.04 | rob^ | jim: yep |
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| 03:29.12 | jim | rob^ I used to use reiserfs, until I lost a heap of stuff |
| 03:29.19 | m0p | Hmm, I've been using ReiserFS for a while with no corrupted data. |
| 03:29.46 | jim | m0p: some describe it as the axe falling... happens suddenly |
| 03:29.52 | rob^ | m0p, I did for ages, then one day it happen |
| 03:29.54 | tgmax | How many minutes of audio can a CD hold? |
| 03:30.00 | m0p | Which one is best overall then? Ext3, XFS? |
| 03:30.03 | rob^ | tgmax, depends |
| 03:30.03 | humbolt | m0p: I am still using reiserfs, but I also lost 80gb once |
| 03:30.08 | jim | 74 or 80 |
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| 03:30.31 | tgmax | rob^, depends? on what? |
| 03:30.37 | m0p | And, is it possible to convert to a different fs without reinstalling everything? |
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| 03:30.46 | rob^ | tgmax, how much the disc was design to hold |
| 03:30.58 | rob^ | ie 74 / 80 |
| 03:31.02 | jim | there's those little cds too |
| 03:31.06 | rob^ | yeah |
| 03:31.26 | m0p | It's taken me ages to get all these packages installed and set up stuff, I am a bit reluctant to start over. |
| 03:31.39 | artega | why do you want another fs? |
| 03:31.50 | rob^ | good question |
| 03:31.56 | artega | i know its a bad question to ask... but you should ask yourself that question |
| 03:32.03 | m0p | hmmm |
| 03:32.06 | artega | the majority of people won't see any different between filesystems... |
| 03:32.14 | jim | well, if he has reiser now, I would imagine he's getting nervous :) |
| 03:32.22 | m0p | yep |
| 03:32.38 | rob^ | lol.. just do a backup then |
| 03:32.43 | tgmax | rob^, i bought huge spindle of a 100 - there's no other info on them! |
| 03:32.50 | jim | daily or hourly? |
| 03:32.56 | m0p | that, and I wanted to know which FS was the overall best. |
| 03:33.24 | maher | m0p: which car is the overall best? |
| 03:33.25 | rob^ | tgmax, just try burning 80mins on one, if it doesn't work then its a safe bet that they are the 74min type |
| 03:33.28 | artega | whoa.. flamewar time :p generally the one you have now is the best.. crappy answer i know.. |
| 03:33.32 | m0p | I don't have any spare CD-R's, and I have over 60gb of data which I need to keep backed up :x |
| 03:33.59 | maher | m0p: use multiple disc drives + dirvish |
| 03:34.06 | m0p | Hmm, I will see what ext3 is like when I install debian on my other machine |
| 03:34.12 | rob^ | m0p, buy a dvd burner, they are cheap now days |
| 03:34.17 | jim | m0p: consider tape |
| 03:34.26 | zeo33x | i have auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces but its not being brought up during boot. |
| 03:34.35 | zeo33x | what am i doing wrong? |
| 03:34.38 | tgmax | rob^, I'm making a playlist - and i'm mixing each track together in a studio. It's going to be a live mix, so i need to know if i got 74 mins, or 80 |
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| 03:34.46 | tgmax | is there anyway to check? |
| 03:34.50 | rob^ | oh |
| 03:34.50 | artega | screw that.. just get another harddisk.. can get 120gb hd for really really cheap nowadays.. |
| 03:35.04 | m0p | Hmmm, I could get another HDD. |
| 03:35.20 | rob^ | tgmax, like I said, stick one in your PC, try to burn 80mins and see how you go |
| 03:35.24 | rob^ | before hand |
| 03:35.33 | debhead | I have three in this machine |
| 03:35.34 | jim | zeo33x: put your /etc/network/interfaces on a web page (maybe rafb.net/paste?) |
| 03:35.46 | m0p | Do you think my data is safe running ReiserFS for now? |
| 03:36.07 | maher | m0p: don't worry, be happy |
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| 03:36.36 | debhead | should be, I have been using reasir for a year and have not lost anything yet |
| 03:36.41 | zeo33x | jim: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Z0UWmM16.html |
| 03:36.56 | m0p | Bah, if my broken old HDD doesn't break first. It's been trying to fail for a long time, occasionally not even spinning up. So it's not the FS I should be worried about really. |
| 03:37.31 | debhead | I have over 65 gigs of media files that I authored on a reiser partition |
| 03:37.35 | jim | does that make it do the pppoe thing? |
| 03:37.45 | zeo33x | jim yes. supposedly |
| 03:37.57 | zeo33x | but eth0 needs to be UP before pppoe is run |
| 03:38.14 | pipegeek | Hi all. I'm using qemu from sarge, and it's working great....except for one rather crucial problem. Every ninth or so keystroke is either doubled or ignored, which makes typing (or, more importantly, keyboard-based gaming :^) ) impossible. Has anyone experienced this, and come up with a working solution? I'm running, as I say, debian sarge on a Dell Latitude CSx, and the guest O/S is FreeDOS. I am not using the qemu accelerator ker |
| 03:38.14 | jim | and it;s configured properly? |
| 03:38.16 | zeo33x | or `pon [dsl-provider]` in that case. |
| 03:38.43 | zeo33x | yes if i manually do `ifconfig eth0 up` then `pon [dsl-provider]` it works |
| 03:38.51 | zeo33x | but on boot up it just doesnt seem to like it |
| 03:39.11 | jim | ok... you could work around by putting that in a boot script for now |
| 03:39.22 | jim | then do it "right" later |
| 03:39.32 | jim | (whatever right is :) |
| 03:40.00 | zeo33x | jim i guess |
| 03:40.01 | HOTKALEB | SINGLE |
| 03:40.14 | jim | CAPS LOCK |
| 03:40.25 | jim | oh, oops, my caps lock was on |
| 03:40.38 | jim | sorry :) |
| 03:40.41 | HOTKALEB | SINGLE MALE 34 |
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| 03:41.11 | maher | LOSER |
| 03:41.17 | jim | !ops HOTKALEB is trying to bother the women or gay men |
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| 03:41.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: HOTKALEB is trying to bother the women or gay men |
| 03:41.27 | simmerz | oops, I think someone has the wrong room. I'm-a-hunting wabbits! |
| 03:41.32 | helix | um |
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| 03:41.45 | jim | I don't know which and fortunately don't want to :) |
| 03:42.02 | hhstnoc | well at least he was hot. |
| 03:42.37 | FarrisG | I've picked up a project at work. I have about 15 debian boxes I have to support, and there is a backup "system" in place: a bunch of sh scripts that copy whole filesystems to a local drive and then rsynch everything to a usb HD |
| 03:43.05 | FarrisG | Well, I just noticed that the backups haven't actually run since Feb 11. (I just picked up the project today) |
| 03:43.39 | pipeline | Hey, there's nothing wrong with bolted-together backup. It's the USB-HD-as-backup bit that makes me cringe. |
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| 03:43.56 | FarrisG | pipeline: I agree |
| 03:44.07 | maher | pipeline: what's wrong with that - i have one of those |
| 03:44.14 | nevyn | pipeline: what else are you going to backup onto? |
| 03:44.14 | FarrisG | pipeline: That and the fact that they aren't working, and I'm trying to figure out why. |
| 03:44.17 | pipeline | maher: It's not a backup, is what's wrong. |
| 03:44.19 | jim | are there usb travan drives? |
| 03:44.30 | maher | pipeline: - why not? |
| 03:44.53 | debhead | why not nas |
| 03:44.55 | maher | FarrisG: try dirvish |
| 03:44.55 | jim | if it's onto a hd, well the hd could fail |
| 03:44.57 | pipeline | maher: It's a hard drive and it's local. What are you protecting against? Anything that takes out the host system has a pretty good chance of nailing that hard drive. Not to mention that it might up and die on its own. |
| 03:44.57 | artega | at work i zip everything up and stick it on a backed up server using samba.. |
| 03:45.10 | FarrisG | There is a hung process for each day since the 11th, with a time that matches up with the cron job. All these processes say (captialization included): "/USR/SBIN/CRON" |
| 03:45.29 | maher | pipeline: it protects you against the other hd failing |
| 03:46.02 | FarrisG | Yeah, I'll look into dirvish or something to replace this system soon, but for now I just have to get what's currently there running. This hasn't been backed up in 2 weeks, and it's important data |
| 03:46.02 | maher | FarrisG: read the cron scripts |
| 03:46.35 | FarrisG | maher: I did. I see no evidence of why these "/USR/SBIN/CRON" processes are hanging. |
| 03:46.35 | debhead | gtg all time for work |
| 03:46.41 | pipeline | maher: That's not a backup, that's low budget RAID. |
| 03:47.21 | maher | pipeline: i run dirvish on a spare usb drive - it provides some extra redundancy in a cheap and easy way... |
| 03:47.39 | maher | pipeline: if you have some secret definintion of backup it may not fit it |
| 03:48.33 | maher | FarrisG: try running one manually |
| 03:48.57 | FarrisG | FarrisG: I'm about to, but I can't until the engineers leave. |
| 03:49.13 | FarrisG | hehe, that was for maher, not me :) |
| 03:49.14 | pipeline | maher: Bah. What bull. Tell me you at least periodically swap out the drive for something offsite :P |
| 03:50.33 | maher | pipeline: i have an offsite drive i run dirvish on as well, and write stuff to dvd every now and then |
| 03:51.12 | simmerz | I use an IDE RAID for redundancy, and then backup weekly to DVD-RW locally. my servers all back up to an off site NFS mount daily. |
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| 03:52.57 | Gumby | does anyone have any idea what this error would be. its in /var/log/syslog "codec_write 1: semaphore is not ready for register 0x54" |
| 03:53.10 | Gumby | its causeing small freezes about every 15 seconds or so |
| 03:53.26 | simmerz | btw, how hard is it to set up debian to use EVMS+RAID? I dont have the HD space atm to do it, so im looking at reinstalling (on my dev machine), but last time i tried the evms udeb didn't work. any ideas now? |
| 03:54.12 | MikeDr | what type of programmer would make the most money??? |
| 03:54.22 | simmerz | ng this isn't a good idea |
| 03:54.22 | simmerz | <Roey> thiago: furthermore, Konqueror could alre |
| 03:54.27 | simmerz | oops |
| 03:54.27 | Gumby | one that has a good paying employer |
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| 03:55.14 | MikeDr | could PHP and C make a good salary? |
| 03:55.19 | scorphus | I have 7524.68 MB of free space to install, what do you think would be the best partition setup? |
| 03:55.47 | pipeline | MikeDr: The most money is in highly technical fields and obscure languages. So if you're an ADA programmer with extensive GIS experience, you'll bring in the big money. |
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| 03:56.02 | pipeline | MikeDr: If you don't have a decade of experience, now is the time to be applying for helldesk jobs that pay minimum wage. Have fun. |
| 03:56.06 | FarrisG | scorphus: Depends on what you're doing. If it's just a personal box, I'd just lop off a gig or two for /var and leave everything else on / |
| 03:56.24 | cat | hey how can i get my webcam working under linux? |
| 03:56.24 | simmerz | Gumby: its a soundcard issue |
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| 03:56.40 | Gumby | simmerz: seems that way, never seen it before though. |
| 03:56.47 | Gumby | and no idea how to stop it |
| 03:56.48 | Gumby | heh |
| 03:57.08 | EvanCarroll | scorphus: are you isntalling X? |
| 03:57.10 | pipeline | scorphus: On a personal machine, I usually allot 50M to /boot and leave everything else on /. It's a personal taste thing. On a server for your job, you probably want a separate /var, /tmp, and /home. |
| 03:57.21 | scorphus | EvanCarr2ll: yes, I will install X |
| 03:57.32 | simmerz | Gumby: you googled for it? I'm finding its something to do with ALSA |
| 03:57.38 | scorphus | it is my personal notebook |
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| 03:57.48 | EvanCarroll | scorphus: I would go with 3gb for root, 500megs for swap, and the rest for home |
| 03:58.15 | Gumby | simmerz: yeah, I'm sorry. Its been a rough day and I am looking for quick answers. My bad.... just been "one of those days" |
| 03:58.56 | dli | EvanCarr2ll, my /usr is 3.5 G |
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| 03:58.56 | meowdog | my usr is 320 GB |
| 03:58.56 | scorphus | thank you all! |
| 03:59.01 | EvanCarroll | dli: thats abnormal. |
| 03:59.10 | pipeline | meowdog: You're weird. My /home is 660G. |
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| 03:59.22 | simmerz | Gumby: not had that problem myself. but seem to be a lot of people googling with the same issue. sorry to hear about "the day". know how it feels |
| 03:59.29 | pipeline | scorphus: With that little room, you definitely don't want to split up /home and /. |
| 03:59.31 | dli | EvanCarr2ll, what's your "du -sh /usr" |
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| 03:59.43 | meowdog | pipeline: mine is 320 Terabytes.. sorry |
| 03:59.44 | fbred | how do I change my system bell? I want it on the normal speakers, the ones I use for xmms/mplayer/games |
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| 03:59.47 | Gumby | just turned alsa off. I'm going to see if that fixes my issues |
| 03:59.49 | cat | in which directory does the kernel modules go to? |
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| 04:00.00 | scorphus | pipeline: you mean, leave it all on a single partition? |
| 04:00.02 | witless | can someone refresh me on how to reconfigure debian to keep newly-created home dirs private? |
| 04:00.07 | peterS | /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/ |
| 04:00.12 | pipeline | meowdog: I meant that you're weird for making /usr huge instead of making /home huge. |
| 04:00.24 | meowdog | pipeline: i hvae home linked to /usr =] |
| 04:00.25 | dli | pipeline, when space is tight, I would put everything in / |
| 04:00.33 | Gumby | thus far it seems like it. I keep getting a "pause" every 20 seconds or so. Its a real pain in the ass..... though I dont think its an alsa issue as it JUST happened again :( |
| 04:00.43 | EvanCarroll | dli: the only box i have running x is with ubuntu its right at 2gb on /usr, and thats WITH kde gnome and xorg |
| 04:00.49 | witless | on limited systems i create / /boot and <swap> |
| 04:00.51 | slocate | can somebody tell me where i can find this bg http://www.enlightenment.org/data/images/upload/erss.png |
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| 04:00.55 | pipeline | scorphus: Yes. You only have 8G of space. You're not going to be adding more. I would set aside 50M for boot, 500M for swap, and the rest in the root filesystem. |
| 04:01.01 | slocate | those that use E.... |
| 04:01.24 | dli | EvanCarr2ll, office? |
| 04:01.24 | EvanCarroll | dli: yes |
| 04:01.33 | dli | EvanCarr2ll, /usr/local ? |
| 04:01.36 | simmerz | Gumby: self compiled kernel? |
| 04:01.38 | scorphus | pipeline: mmm, got what you mean! |
| 04:01.51 | EvanCarroll | dli: 3.5mb |
| 04:02.00 | Gumby | simmerz: nope. default sarge kernel and now default 2.6.10-1--686 |
| 04:02.10 | simmerz | odd. |
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| 04:02.29 | Gumby | yeah, maybe its this HDD I just put in my laptop |
| 04:02.31 | simmerz | does the error line contain ALSA at the beginning of it? |
| 04:02.36 | Gumby | no |
| 04:02.52 | Gumby | I am not even sure those errors have anything to do with the "pause" issue |
| 04:03.00 | cat | peterS: how can i know if debian reconized my webcam? |
| 04:03.14 | cat | is a digital webcam, |
| 04:03.17 | dli | cat: gqcam |
| 04:03.17 | Gumby | doesnt seem to as I have stopped alsa, removed the snd_ modules and its still happening |
| 04:03.25 | peterS | cat: I don't know what to look for, since I don't own one |
| 04:03.25 | Gumby | cat: is it a USB cam? |
| 04:03.26 | scorphus | thanks again for the help, guys |
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| 04:03.32 | cat | yes Gumby |
| 04:03.38 | cat | is concord VGA webcam |
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| 04:03.49 | simmerz | Gumby: just wondering if it is something trying to re-initialize itself? |
| 04:03.51 | Gumby | cat: unplug the cam, tail -f /var/log/messagees and look for what it says when you plug it in |
| 04:04.05 | cat | /dev/video: No such file or directory |
| 04:04.05 | Gumby | simmerz: not sure, I dont see anything in the log files anymore |
| 04:04.17 | Gumby | cat: does it say that it loads a module at all? |
| 04:04.33 | cat | yes |
| 04:04.45 | simmerz | I've just found an error for 0x54 that claims to be for a modem: http://linux.seindal.dk/item61.html |
| 04:04.58 | Gumby | no modem |
| 04:05.09 | cat | ibmcam 44780 0 |
| 04:05.09 | cat | usbvideo 27524 1 ibmcam |
| 04:05.09 | cat | videodev 9856 1 usbvideo |
| 04:05.32 | simmerz | hmm. anything in syslog suggest the pausing? what GUI you using? |
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| 04:05.50 | Gumby | no, and KDE |
| 04:05.51 | dli | cat: install a capturing tool? |
| 04:05.56 | cat | like? |
| 04:06.03 | Gumby | gnomemeeting |
| 04:06.07 | Gumby | xawtv |
| 04:06.08 | cat | oh |
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| 04:06.10 | simmerz | anything in the process list? top? |
| 04:06.11 | cat | it doesn't work |
| 04:06.32 | dli | cat: yeah, gnomemeeting is pretty smart |
| 04:06.47 | simmerz | I know it sounds obvious, but might as well say it. just in case |
| 04:06.59 | cat | all i see is the background thing when i want to put my webcam |
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| 04:07.36 | cat | it says no device detect |
| 04:07.46 | guigouz | anyone having problems with proftpd-ldap and sarge ? |
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| 04:07.54 | Gumby | nothing is appearing in top that is spiking as far as cpu usage goes |
| 04:07.56 | dli | cat: that means /dev/video? missing |
| 04:08.06 | cat | i think so, |
| 04:08.06 | Gumby | artsd was stiill running so I turned that off. No changed |
| 04:08.14 | underdog | has anyone had trouble installing debian on a toshiba satellite? it hangs everytime it tries to start something pcmcia related. |
| 04:08.18 | dli | cat: do you have v4l ? |
| 04:08.24 | cat | not sure |
| 04:08.35 | cat | nop |
| 04:08.35 | Gumby | underdog: I am using one right now. no issues (tthat seem to be pcmcia related) |
| 04:08.37 | dli | cat: you need that |
| 04:08.40 | simmerz | Gumby: what is your pstree? |
| 04:08.47 | underdog | great |
| 04:08.52 | underdog | because ubuntu was sucking at that |
| 04:09.03 | underdog | the original is always the best |
| 04:09.18 | cat | libpt-plugins-v4l> |
| 04:09.20 | cat | that? |
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| 04:09.22 | Gumby | simmerz: ?? |
| 04:09.42 | cat | is that correct plugin dli |
| 04:09.52 | Gumby | simmerz: whats at the top of it? |
| 04:09.56 | simmerz | command: pstree. paste to http://rafb.net/paste |
| 04:10.02 | Gumby | aah, ok. one sec |
| 04:10.06 | Empty | Weird... My Thunderbird (stock package on Sarge, under Gnome) is borked- it does not want to spawn windows, and it does not want to die completely- the windows disappear but I retain some processes in "ps". Reboots have not fixed and I am updated and upgraded. |
| 04:10.42 | simmerz | Empty: the same happens to me but with KWave under KDE. still not sure why. No one else seems to see the problem, except me. |
| 04:11.00 | Empty | Underdog I am on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300 on Sarge, no real problems at all |
| 04:11.03 | dli | cat: no, v4l in kernel |
| 04:11.18 | cat | dli: which kernel does it bring v41? on debian? |
| 04:11.21 | Empty | Aside from the winmodem natch |
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| 04:11.37 | Gumby | http://rafb.net/paste/results/DXawlD83.html |
| 04:11.53 | underdog | Empty, mine is Satellite M30x-116 |
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| 04:12.10 | underdog | everytime i would try to install ubuntu it would hang |
| 04:12.24 | Empty | underdog, Do yourself a favor though and take a peek through some of the Toshiba- specific laptop stuff in the kernel |
| 04:12.28 | dli | cat: kernel is same for all distri |
| 04:12.50 | dli | underdog, why ubuntu? just being carious |
| 04:13.02 | cat | dli: so none kernel comes with v41? |
| 04:13.03 | Empty | dli, go diff adamantix or RH from the kernel.org sources |
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| 04:13.27 | fbred | is it possible to get a system bell even if my pc don't have a internal speaker? (I have a normal soundcard though) |
| 04:13.39 | jaymes | can someone help a debian user that needs to get something working on win nt & 2k ? |
| 04:13.43 | robertg | Hey guys, do you think it's safe to ignore: tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 04:13.49 | dli | cat: I don't know :( you may try modprobe |
| 04:13.51 | robertg | I think everything cpoied |
| 04:13.52 | robertg | *copied |
| 04:13.54 | Empty | Personally, I don't get why the stock debian kernels don't come with ext3 support built in instead of in a module |
| 04:14.04 | robertg | I was making a 12 gig tar archive and copying it across the network at the same time |
| 04:14.29 | robertg | I.e. writing the tar file to stdout, having tar on another server via ssh pick it up and write it to a new archive |
| 04:14.32 | Empty | jaymes, Sure, just find a windows channel somewhere and I bet someone will |
| 04:14.41 | robertg | And it seems like it's 11 gigs, so is there any way to tell if it's complete? |
| 04:14.41 | jaymes | Empty, where? |
| 04:14.49 | peterS | Empty: because of those loonies who use reiserfs. their life is hard enough already, no need to make it even harder on them by forcing them to use kernel memory for ext3fs |
| 04:14.50 | simmerz | Gumby: Can't really tell. what is the dcopserver doing? |
| 04:14.57 | Gumby | simmerz: its a kde thing |
| 04:14.58 | Empty | jaymes, unless you need help with something like Samba or NTFS under Linux or something |
| 04:15.12 | simmerz | I'm running KDE, but I don't have a dcopserver |
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| 04:15.19 | Empty | peterS, I am one of those loonies |
| 04:15.32 | Gumby | do you run klipper and korganizer? |
| 04:15.43 | simmerz | Gumby: yep |
| 04:15.53 | jaymes | Empty, I'd love to say I do, but alas... |
| 04:15.57 | Empty | IME reiser is much more stable these days |
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| 04:16.11 | Empty | jaymes, sorry then :-/ |
| 04:16.11 | peterS | Empty: anyway, building in ext3 would not obviate an initrd. there are so many IDE and SCSI drivers out there now that it's not practical to build them *all* into a kernel. so the simple thing is to build *none* of them in, make them all modules, and just force the installer to create an initrd at install time |
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| 04:16.15 | Gumby | simmerz: kontact?? |
| 04:16.15 | hononon | hello! |
| 04:16.21 | simmerz | Gumby: yep too |
| 04:16.29 | Gumby | hrm, Ive always had it there |
| 04:16.29 | hononon | I am Japanese student! |
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| 04:16.53 | Empty | peterS, Yeah I guess I see the point of that... Still cheeses me off a bit though |
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| 04:16.59 | hononon | good bye! |
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| 04:17.16 | simmerz | I'm running sid, but if you are running sarge there isn't much diff |
| 04:17.23 | falconX | got some major kernel problems >.< |
| 04:17.32 | pipegeek | Hi all. Figured I'd post this again, just in case someone's dropped in since I last checked... I'm using qemu from sarge, and it's working great....except for one rather crucial problem. Every ninth or so keystroke is either doubled or ignored, which makes typing (or, more importantly, keyboard-based gaming :^) ) impossible. Has anyone experienced this, and come up with a working solution? I'm running, as I say, debian sarge on a De |
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| 04:17.57 | peterS | Empty: the Big Four filesystems would be ext2, ext3, reiserfs, and xfs. probably just as well they don't build all 4 of them in. xfs and reiserfs in particular are rather large |
| 04:18.08 | underdog | dli, because it was what i had here in the office |
| 04:18.16 | underdog | other people use debian, but i couldn't find any install cd's |
| 04:18.23 | underdog | anyway, i'm downloading the live installation |
| 04:18.24 | Empty | peterS, Let's be honest, the Big Two and the Medium Two |
| 04:18.29 | peterS | heh |
| 04:18.35 | underdog | dli, I want to do a minimal install |
| 04:18.42 | underdog | so that I can apt-get what I really need |
| 04:18.43 | Empty | underdog: the one called debian-installer? |
| 04:19.00 | underdog | Empty, no, I had ubuntu cd's lying around |
| 04:19.02 | Gumby | simmerz: the straange thing.... the "pause" only seems to effect the keyboard. |
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| 04:19.16 | simmerz | Gumby: my pstree |
| 04:19.21 | simmerz | http://rafb.net/paste/results/xgYscN27.html |
| 04:19.24 | Empty | underdog, go grab it it's only 100M and you can just do a base |
| 04:19.35 | Empty | base install... Then apt yourself to happy |
| 04:19.40 | Empty | !d-i |
| 04:19.40 | dpkg | [d-i] the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see #debian-boot, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 04:20.09 | underdog | Empero, i'm doing it |
| 04:20.35 | underdog | Empty, yeah, 110mb. that's what i'm getting :) |
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| 04:21.36 | calinb | I'm having problems starting my vncserver. It tells me "Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path.\Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script." |
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| 04:22.39 | robertg | Anyone gotten "tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors" before when trying to make large archives, or with gzip filtering? |
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| 04:23.04 | LeBear | file change while you were tar'ing it? |
| 04:23.10 | robertg | Yes |
| 04:23.16 | LeBear | I get that alot when I'm backing up apache logs.. |
| 04:23.17 | robertg | I'm making a backup of web stuff |
| 04:23.20 | robertg | Yep |
| 04:23.23 | LeBear | well.. there you go. |
| 04:23.25 | robertg | 12 Gigs worth of data over the network |
| 04:23.36 | calinb | I'm having problems starting my vncserver. It tells me "Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path.\Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script." |
| 04:23.42 | robertg | But on the destination machine the newly-created archive *IS* "11 gigs" |
| 04:23.48 | robertg | So might it be not corrupted |
| 04:23.48 | calinb | WHat do I need to dot o set the vonf path? |
| 04:23.49 | skip_ | if I'm outside the US, should I use non-US repo's as well as the standard repo's, or only the non-US repo's? |
| 04:23.50 | robertg | ? |
| 04:23.50 | calinb | fint* |
| 04:23.53 | calinb | font* |
| 04:24.11 | jdhutchin1 | skip_, you should always use all of them |
| 04:24.18 | robertg | LeBear, Could it be okay when I extract it? |
| 04:24.24 | robertg | Even if the apache logs aren't? |
| 04:24.35 | LeBear | aside from the log file that changed, it'll be ok |
| 04:24.41 | robertg | Ok, great. |
| 04:24.51 | skip_ | jdhutchin1: so the non-US repo's contain stuff that is not included in the standard repo's? |
| 04:25.00 | Empty | underdog, Good, it's a total breeze to use |
| 04:25.05 | robertg | I would be pissed as hell if I had to recopy 12 gigs because of one little error like that. :P That's a lot of bandwith to use at one time. |
| 04:25.14 | LeBear | robertg: alternatively, you can tell it to skip the log file.. man tar for details.. search for exclude |
| 04:25.14 | jdhutchin1 | skip_, yes, it's packages that cannot be legally exported to certain nations from the US |
| 04:25.35 | skip_ | thanks, was't quite sure what the relationship between them was |
| 04:25.37 | robertg | LeBear, Yeah, I'll do that next time, but now i'm extracting this new archive on the new server ;) |
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| 04:26.48 | underdog | Empty, yeah, it was a bug. It would hang at "starting pccard services" and it went through that like a breeze |
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| 04:27.43 | MajestiK | I have a question about how the window managers are setup in the display manager? I'm trying to add a "window manager" that's basically just a rdesktop connection to another machine, but I can't seem to figure out how to add a window manager to wdm's list.. |
| 04:27.47 | robertg | Gah |
| 04:27.54 | robertg | I think this archive is extracting wrong... |
| 04:27.58 | robertg | Into the wrong folder |
| 04:28.02 | robertg | 12 gigs all over again :/ |
| 04:28.19 | LeBear | why don't you just move it to the right one? |
| 04:28.22 | robertg | I will |
| 04:28.25 | robertg | But it will still take a while :P |
| 04:28.25 | skip_ | jdhutchin1: sorry, one more Q: if I'm running Sarge, what should I being using (sarge, testing AND stable?) |
| 04:28.42 | LeBear | err.. it shouldn't, unless you're moving it across partitions |
| 04:28.48 | jdhutchin1 | skip_, just sarge |
| 04:28.52 | kaplanfx | where can I find some info about the dump and pass settings in fstab, the man page only says that dump is for filesystems that need to dump but doesn't say why they should or would dump |
| 04:28.56 | LeBear | anyway.. laters |
| 04:28.57 | robertg | LeBear, why does it take so long ot extract without verbosity on? |
| 04:29.18 | skip_ | jdhutching: is 'stable' Woody? |
| 04:29.27 | robertg | Yes |
| 04:29.34 | skip_ | jdhutchin1: sorry...is 'stable' Woody? |
| 04:29.39 | robertg | Stable = "Woody" |
| 04:30.00 | robertg | Testing = "Sarge" |
| 04:30.03 | skip_ | testing = ? unstable = sid? |
| 04:30.03 | robertg | Unstable = "Sid" |
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| 04:30.09 | skip_ | gotcha |
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| 04:30.40 | skip_ | so I don't have to specify 'testing' and 'sarge' then |
| 04:30.46 | robertg | Where? |
| 04:31.00 | skip_ | in synaptic for example |
| 04:31.14 | robertg | I don't think so |
| 04:31.28 | skip_ | ok, thanks |
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| 04:31.58 | Empty | skip_, one specifies one or the other- use the actual name like woody or sarge though so when Sarge goes stable you don't end up accidentally upgrading |
| 04:33.12 | skip_ | Empty: thanks. So I only need to specify 'Sarge' and 'Sarge/non-US' |
| 04:33.27 | robertg | Oh, I guess I misunderstood your question |
| 04:33.30 | robertg | Sorry |
| 04:33.44 | skip_ | robertg: no probs, I think I understand now |
| 04:33.51 | robertg | Good :) |
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| 04:35.31 | BadMan | well, Im doing base install of sarge now, should I go with 2.4.27 or 2.6.8? this is a home desktop (print file server) k7 700... |
| 04:35.41 | calinb | Anyone know how to set my font path |
| 04:36.40 | BadMan | grub vs lilo? |
| 04:37.33 | falconX | I've got problems with my kernel |
| 04:37.37 | BadMan | calinb I would sya someplace in xf86config or something |
| 04:37.52 | BadMan | net install blows..... |
| 04:38.53 | BadMan | takes up all the bandwidth cnat paly quake even pokerstars is annoing... |
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| 04:39.49 | falconX | Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
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| 04:40.48 | BadMan | Spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7? |
| 04:40.54 | falconX | I compiled the kernel myself, with kernel-package, and installed the .deb |
| 04:41.15 | takatumi | falconX: /msg dpkg norootfs |
| 04:41.21 | falconX | thanks |
| 04:41.45 | takatumi | falconX: and man make-kpkg, look at the --initrd option |
| 04:41.54 | falconX | did that |
| 04:42.02 | CasaNova_ | If I compile a kernel after making ONE change (added USB printer as Module) and after it is finished compiling - do I need to reboot? Or can I just modprobe the newly created module? I touched nothing else and USB and USB Storage was already in running kernle... |
| 04:42.21 | falconX | and my ide, and reiserfs modules are built into the kernel |
| 04:42.34 | takatumi | falconX: was the initrd.img created in /boot? |
| 04:42.39 | falconX | yep |
| 04:42.52 | takatumi | and the bootloader was updated as well? |
| 04:42.56 | falconX | yep |
| 04:43.22 | takatumi | falconX: then I give up :) |
| 04:44.47 | CasaNova_ | It seems if everything stayed the same in kernel adn all I did was really make a new kernel identical to the running one I shoudl be able to just modprobe teh newly built module into the running kernel.... |
| 04:45.26 | takatumi | CasaNova_: you need to reboot. |
| 04:45.45 | Empty | CasaNova_, you can probe it in |
| 04:45.53 | CasaNova_ | takatumi: I guess I don;t understand why? What will be initiated in a reboot? |
| 04:46.03 | kaplanfx | is there an article somewhere that gives advice on choosing which I/O scheduler to use? |
| 04:46.09 | CasaNova_ | Empty - It seems logical but not sure |
| 04:46.10 | Empty | CasaNova_, assuming it was *the same* kernel, no new version appending etc |
| 04:46.16 | kaplanfx | dpkg: I/O sheduler |
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| 04:46.20 | kaplanfx | dpkg: I/O scheduler |
| 04:46.23 | Empty | CasaNova_, have had that work many times |
| 04:46.31 | CasaNova_ | Empty: I jsut ran make menuconfig and tapped M on the one option... |
| 04:46.39 | kingsley_ | Is there an application which renders 3d text like gltext, but which also allows you to choose the text's orientation and font? |
| 04:46.53 | Empty | CasaNova_, ...in the source from the kernel you are running right? |
| 04:47.10 | CasaNova_ | then ran make dep and (Yes from teh same source....) |
| 04:47.34 | Empty | CasaNova_, should be OK then |
| 04:47.57 | Empty | CasaNova_, just don't forget to doa controlled reboot to make sure it works on reboot at some point :) |
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| 04:48.15 | CasaNova_ | great. You still need to wait for whole kernel compile to finish thtough to get teh newly built kernel :-( |
| 04:48.28 | CasaNova_ | Oh yes of course rebooting is always a thrill when I recompile anything :-) |
| 04:48.45 | rob^ | haha |
| 04:48.53 | CasaNova_ | (old machine kernel compile still takes time.....) |
| 04:49.02 | rob^ | not wrong about the "thrill" |
| 04:49.12 | clueless | I am trying to migrate from one harddrive, which has root mounted, to another. I copied all the files, but I need to recreate /dev. How do I do that? |
| 04:50.07 | clueless | someone told me 'cd /newhdd/dev; MAKEDEV' but it does not do anything.... |
| 04:50.15 | CasaNova_ | rob^: My head hurts just thinking about rebooting :-) (just don't do it enough on linux boxes to be comfortable with it! |
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| 04:50.37 | rob0 | clueless: try ./MAKEDEV |
| 04:50.59 | rob^ | CasaNova_, you sought of get out of the habit that Microsoft had you in.. its almost like giving up smoking. |
| 04:51.20 | rob^ | then when you pick up a smoke, your like "wtf?" |
| 04:51.35 | clueless | rob0: /newhdd/dev is an empty directory.... |
| 04:51.56 | takatumi | CasaNova_: a debian kernel-image wouldn't work? |
| 04:52.11 | rob0 | oh ... well I am not sure what you need to do |
| 04:52.13 | CasaNova_ | rob^ I was thinking same thing I'll install updates and reboot dozens of time on ms MS boxes and if they bluescreen I format and install newest release (at work) but here at home I haven't rebooted these boxes except to move them around the office :-) |
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| 04:52.32 | CasaNova_ | takatumi : unfortunately in this case no... |
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| 04:53.13 | rob^ | CasaNova_, try rebooting a Solaris box, they haven't given much thought to the start up process.. |
| 04:53.15 | trevor | Question, Is debian still behind in there updated repositories for apt? (woody) do i need to run sarge or testing for the latest applications? |
| 04:53.24 | rob0 | it's /sbin/MAKEDEV on my Debian box |
| 04:54.04 | takatumi | trevor: woody's packages are around 2 years behind, update to sarge if you need the newer ones. |
| 04:54.05 | CasaNova_ | rob^ Had one for a while at work I was runnign Solaris and Linux on at different times. Finally the hardware died adn it was the only one we had in whoel site.... |
| 04:54.16 | rob0 | you can cp device nodes just like files |
| 04:54.17 | clueless | rob0 : that seems to be only MAKEDEV avail... /dev/MAKEDEV is a just symlink to /sbin one |
| 04:54.47 | trevor | takatumi: sarge is recommended, not testing? also which version of X comes with sarge? |
| 04:54.58 | takatumi | trevor: sarge=testing |
| 04:55.09 | trevor | err unstable. |
| 04:55.19 | maher | trevor: packages.debian.org lets you search which packages are in which verison |
| 04:55.19 | trevor | unstable is more for devels correct? |
| 04:55.31 | maher | trevor: woody=stable sarge=testing |
| 04:55.39 | clueless | rob0 : you can??? |
| 04:55.45 | trevor | maher ya, brain blank :) |
| 04:55.53 | rob^ | trevor, some of us use packages from both sarge and sid |
| 04:56.10 | maher | trevor: sarge should be released soon, like 1-2 months |
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| 04:56.13 | trevor | okay... Just one more question... WHy is debian so behind in packages? |
| 04:56.26 | maher | trevor: stable means security fixes only |
| 04:56.48 | trevor | i know, i'd never run stable, but even sarge, seems behind. |
| 04:56.54 | rob^ | trevor, because it takes a while to test everything |
| 04:56.56 | Agrajag- | trevor: you clearly dont understand how the debian release cycle works.. http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 04:57.03 | takatumi | trevor: that is the idea, however if you are willing to take a risk and fix occasional errors yourself, unstable would work are well. |
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| 04:57.13 | trevor | Agrajag- I do. |
| 04:57.15 | maher | trevor: sarge seems pretty recent to me |
| 04:57.15 | takatumi | s/are/as/ |
| 04:57.24 | maher | trevor: maybe you should be running gentoo |
| 04:57.26 | Agrajag- | trevor: if you did, you wouldn't be asking those questions |
| 04:57.31 | trevor | maher whats the X version for sarge. |
| 04:57.36 | trevor | nah i already have a freebsd box hehe |
| 04:57.48 | maher | trevor: check p.d.o - i dunno |
| 04:57.49 | rob^ | maher, if he ran gentoo he'd have even more questions |
| 04:57.49 | clueless | software QA just takes time... no way around it |
| 04:57.54 | trevor | I liked debian for desktop, while ago, I just wanted to see others peoples take on the repos |
| 04:57.55 | takatumi | trevor: no x.org if that's what you are after. |
| 04:57.55 | trevor | :/ |
| 04:58.28 | trevor | rob^: know i'd rather run a real ports package management, not a clone. |
| 04:58.32 | trevor | which i adore. |
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| 04:58.44 | trevor | takatumi ahh see, :( perfect example |
| 04:58.49 | trevor | daamnit. |
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| 04:59.03 | trevor | alright, thanks |
| 04:59.18 | rob^ | waiting? what for? |
| 04:59.28 | rob^ | Debian XP? |
| 04:59.47 | clueless | Microsoft Emacs |
| 04:59.49 | exobyte | Is there a good simple ftpd out there? |
| 05:00.24 | rob^ | Microsoft OpenOffice |
| 05:00.37 | rob^ | bah, I doubt that will ever happen ;P |
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| 05:02.26 | robertg | kinda late for a BBQ... 12:02 AM :P |
| 05:02.33 | rob^ | haha |
| 05:02.35 | robertg | or early, whichever you prefer |
| 05:02.43 | robertg | :) |
| 05:02.48 | rob^ | midnight munchies |
| 05:03.37 | robertg | :P |
| 05:03.50 | takatumi | robertg: your clock is off by 7 mins :P |
| 05:04.00 | humbolt | I have several thin-clients and I want one restricted to a certain user group. I have KDM running there. Do I restrict logins for that machine with pam or kdmrc?? |
| 05:04.01 | robertg | It is?! |
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| 05:06.45 | Kvant | robertg, seems not: [6:02:28] <robertg> ... 12:02 AM :P |
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| 05:07.00 | robertg | ?!?!?!? |
| 05:07.06 | robertg | What kind of planet do you live on |
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| 05:07.34 | Kvant | robertg, i live on a planet with lots of time zones :/ |
| 05:07.49 | reamtS | how do I install a X11 in my system? |
| 05:07.52 | reamtS | what do I need? |
| 05:07.58 | robertg | Kvant, never heard of it |
| 05:08.06 | EvanCarroll | Anyone know how to fix an error '400 TLSSTART is required' in courier? |
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| 05:09.47 | dli_ | a C question, how to printf 2.1 to " 2.1" |
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| 05:10.08 | reamtS | what package is 'startx' on? |
| 05:10.19 | robertg | dli_, #c |
| 05:10.28 | Kvant | reamtS, xbase-clients |
| 05:10.35 | reamtS | thx |
| 05:10.36 | dli_ | reamtS: Xserver-xfree86 |
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| 05:11.46 | reamtS | what happen to xwindow-server? |
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| 05:12.47 | dli_ | reamtS: x-window-core |
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| 05:12.59 | dli_ | reamtS: or "tasksel" |
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| 05:13.33 | catalyst | Where can I find a working patch for nVidia-1.0-6111 driver that's work on 2.6.11? |
| 05:13.40 | reamtS | thx |
| 05:14.01 | reamtS | x-window-system .. that is what I was looking for.. thx y'all |
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| 05:14.57 | dli_ | catalyst: 2.6.11 doesn't work for me :( |
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| 05:17.09 | catalyst | dli_: whats your issue? |
| 05:17.34 | dli_ | catalyst: no keyboard, nvidia-kernel won't compile |
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| 05:18.18 | EvanCarroll | dli_: print(" %d", 2.1); |
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| 05:18.27 | EvanCarroll | err s/print/printf/; |
| 05:18.37 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: %d is for int :( |
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| 05:19.07 | cg0def | how do I report a problem with a pkg? |
| 05:19.29 | EvanCarroll | well then make it an int static_cast<int> |
| 05:19.32 | cg0def | libgtksourceview-cil is trying to overwrite stuff from libgtksourceview |
| 05:19.51 | Kvant | !tell cg0def about bts |
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| 05:20.14 | EvanCarroll | dli_: aucutally if you put a static cast in a printf, your peers will kill you and children |
| 05:20.38 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: I'm asking about printf :( |
| 05:20.53 | mwilson | Wouldn't there first have to be a package named "libgtksourceview", which there isn't? |
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| 05:21.02 | catalyst | dli_: suck! what patch you use on nvidia-kernel? |
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| 05:21.11 | EvanCarroll | dli_: right, printf(" %d", static_cast<int>(2.1)); |
| 05:21.14 | EvanCarroll | it works |
| 05:22.01 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: cast double to int? and printf as %d? don't understand |
| 05:22.35 | sdogi | howdy |
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| 05:23.49 | EvanCarroll | dli_: .. my c is rusty, but you should be casting a float to an int, and then printing the string " 2.1" because printf should always print a string, (but it would also have to in this context because your template the %d is in double quotes) |
| 05:24.58 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: your smart idea is not general, for a double a=2.1 |
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| 05:26.06 | EvanCarroll | msg me in a window if you need help, and explain what exactly your looking for - i think im confused to what your trying to accomplish =/ |
| 05:26.35 | EvanCarroll | dli_: oh i see hwat your saying i forgot c would truncate 2.1 when the cast was complete, as i said rusty |
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| 05:26.47 | EvanCarroll | hrm just use " %f" then |
| 05:27.20 | nastaran | hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 05:27.26 | ghanima_ | hiii |
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| 05:27.48 | robertg | hiiiiiiiiii |
| 05:28.09 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: no, then, 2.1 is printed as "2.1", not " 2.1" |
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| 05:29.24 | ghanima_ | hello robertg . nastaran |
| 05:29.26 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: I want something like "%2d", to print 2 as " 2", and 20 as "20" |
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| 05:29.31 | }btorch{ | hello |
| 05:29.39 | ghanima_ | hello btorch |
| 05:29.43 | EvanCarroll | dli_: cout<<":";printf(" %f",2.1);cout<<":"; |
| 05:29.43 | }btorch{ | anyone here using familiar on ipaq ? |
| 05:29.44 | sdogi | bye |
| 05:29.52 | sdogi | EvanCarroll: i hate c++ |
| 05:29.57 | }btorch{ | ipkg is a debian thing right ? |
| 05:29.58 | EvanCarroll | dli_: it outputs ": 2.1:" |
| 05:30.05 | ghanima_ | yes |
| 05:30.15 | EvanCarroll | sdogi: yes c++ to whiney i prefer perl |
| 05:30.24 | sdogi | EvanCarroll: me too |
| 05:30.28 | EvanCarroll | dli_: oh oh |
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| 05:30.44 | sdogi | EvanCarroll: i'm actually learning c, c++ still sucks for me |
| 05:30.45 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: yeah, you can do that, if(a>10 && a< 100) printf(" %2.1f",a) |
| 05:30.56 | EvanCarroll | dli_: thats a much better formed question |
| 05:31.00 | ghanima_ | I do not understand anything to them |
| 05:31.34 | EvanCarroll | dli_: does this have decimals too? |
| 05:31.55 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: "%2.1f" handles that |
| 05:32.26 | sdogi | %2.1f sucks... %.1f would be better |
| 05:32.52 | ghanima_ | nobody spanish speech? |
| 05:33.03 | sdogi | actually i wonder what's the difference between %.1Lf and %.1f sometimes the last one fails |
| 05:33.34 | dli_ | sdogj: do you know, to printf a list of double, but aligned by the point |
| 05:33.45 | ghanima_ | ok bye |
| 05:34.02 | sdogi | dli_: wha? |
| 05:34.05 | EvanCarroll | ghanima_: !es |
| 05:34.13 | EvanCarroll | !tell ghanima_ about !es |
| 05:34.14 | nastaran | helooooooo |
| 05:34.17 | ghanima_ | you speaking spanish? |
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| 05:34.29 | sdogi | dli_: yeah i know how to print doubles but what's algined by point? sorry i'm too sleepy i think i'll go away |
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| 05:34.36 | EvanCarroll | !tell ghanima_ about !spanish |
| 05:34.38 | EvanCarroll | there we go |
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| 05:34.50 | ghanima_ | not very well ingles |
| 05:34.54 | sdogi | !tell sdogi about !estonian |
| 05:35.05 | sdogi | !tell sdogi about estonian |
| 05:35.14 | sdogi | f*ck |
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| 05:35.29 | dli_ | sdogi: I have double a from 1. to 999. ; I want to printf to: if a<10, then " 2.2", else if a <100, then " 22.2", else "222.2" |
| 05:35.32 | sdogi | i'll teach it some day |
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| 05:35.56 | EvanCarroll | dli_: then you need to cast it to a string as i understand it |
| 05:35.58 | dli_ | sdogi: put one space for each missing digits |
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| 05:36.20 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: if can do it, but stupid |
| 05:36.40 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: to int is dumber |
| 05:36.42 | ghanima_ | no les entiendo nada |
| 05:36.43 | Kvant | dli_, wouldn't that be "%5.1f" ? |
| 05:36.44 | ghanima_ | chau |
| 05:37.49 | dli_ | Kvant: it works :) tell me why 5.1? 5 means total string length? 3 + '.'+1 ? |
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| 05:38.17 | Kvant | dli_, yes, 5.1 means print value with 1 decimal in a field of 5 chars |
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| 05:38.41 | dli_ | Kvant: I'm using if, feel being dum enough :) thanks a lot |
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| 05:39.19 | sdogi | dli_: can't really get it, sorry, too tired, maby next time, read a book called C programming by Cheltenham Computer Training |
| 05:39.22 | sdogi | dli_: good book |
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| 05:41.49 | dli_ | Kvant: seems like that I have to stick to if, because the output is used by xmgrace, which format the space " " differently from a normal char |
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| 05:42.39 | hitriko-sama | is there i can install ubntu without have a cd? |
| 05:42.48 | gach | no |
| 05:42.55 | EvanCarroll | !not debian |
| 05:42.56 | dpkg | Knoppix isn't, Ubuntu isn't, Libranet isn't, Morphix isn't, lnx-bbc isn't, *your* installation you have right now ISN'T.... see if there is a channel available relevant to your distribution, if not, tough. Your questions do not belong here! |
| 05:42.57 | hitriko-sama | crap -_-; |
| 05:43.01 | gach | but you can install sarge from a usb key |
| 05:43.02 | gach | ^ |
| 05:43.05 | gach | ^^ |
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| 05:43.59 | gach | anyone knows where to get decent themes in .deb format? |
| 05:44.13 | zeeble | gach: what themes? kde? gnome? |
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| 05:44.13 | dondelelcaro | gach: themes for what? |
| 05:44.18 | Kvant | dli_, you want exactly 1 space between values? |
| 05:44.22 | dli_ | gach: only if you can boot up from usb? |
| 05:44.34 | gach | dli_ of course |
| 05:44.44 | gach | zeeble gnome |
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| 05:45.05 | nayyares | I recently clone a Qmail-Toaster based machine to a remote machine drive, When i boot that new cloned machine it give me error " VFS: cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or 00:00 please append a correct "root=" boot option"? problem become more seriz when i boot that machine with cds to upgrade it , as it detect NO PREVIOUS INSTALLTION :( |
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| 05:45.13 | dli_ | Kvant: I need to printf strings to be used by xmgrace, just found out, "%5.1f" still not aligned correctly in xmgrace |
| 05:45.20 | gach | zeeble but i want it in .deb.... the theme installer dosnt work that good for me |
| 05:45.45 | dondelelcaro | gach: there are some gnome themes packaged, iirc. |
| 05:45.45 | dli_ | Kvant: right now, I use if(a>10.), so I can adjust the alignment manually |
| 05:46.09 | gach | dondelelcaro but most of them suck |
| 05:46.11 | dondelelcaro | in the excitingly named gnome-themes and gnome-themes-extra package, no doubt. |
| 05:46.20 | dondelelcaro | gach: *shrug* |
| 05:46.23 | gach | ahhh |
| 05:46.32 | zeeble | gach: I've got some from diff sources, but dont remember which entries in my sources.list they are. |
| 05:46.37 | gach | didnt know you where talking about those |
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| 05:46.48 | EvanCarroll | maybe the compiler is casting it back to a number and truncating the space |
| 05:46.55 | dli_ | Kvant: by the way, is there a similar "%05.1f", like "05d", to put 0 instead of ' '? |
| 05:47.01 | gach | can you send me a copy of your sources.list to gach87@gmail .com zeeble? |
| 05:47.21 | dli_ | EvanCarr2ll: no, not compiler, aligned correctly in terminal |
| 05:47.29 | zeeble | gach: goto gnome-look.org and search for debian. you'll find a load of stuff, plus sources. mine are old |
| 05:47.36 | Kvant | dli_, yes |
| 05:47.39 | gach | ok.. thanks zeeble |
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| 05:49.37 | walnuck | i'm having a problem viewing mc correctly from a popular win client putty- I hate to say this but I'm forced to use a windows station to work on a linux server.. |
| 05:49.40 | dli_ | Kvant: thanks, nice to know |
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| 05:50.13 | dli_ | walnuck: try colinux or cygwin |
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| 05:50.27 | dli_ | walnuck: putty is too simple |
| 05:50.52 | walnuck | dli_: where's colinux, cygwin is too big an install |
| 05:51.29 | dli_ | walnuck: cygwin is 1-2 GB? nothing on current available 100+GB hd |
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| 05:52.20 | cleverAlf | if i may intrude just a second.. (pls) Someone the other night recommended another tabbed window manager for me to try besides fluxbox and I did't make note of it.. anyone telling me bout it.. (i hate getting old..) |
| 05:52.20 | Xenguy | walnuck: putty should 'just work' |
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| 05:54.52 | walnuck | Xenguy: no |
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| 05:55.53 | nayyares | I recently clone a Qmail-Toaster based machine to a remote machine drive, When i boot that new cloned machine it give me error " VFS: cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or 00:00 please append a correct "root=" boot option"? problem become more seriz when i boot that machine with cds to upgrade it , as it detect NO PREVIOUS INSTALLTION :( |
| 05:55.55 | dafen | db2 "sql statement" |
| 05:56.05 | dafen | what package do Ineeed to excute that command? |
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| 05:58.51 | dondelelcaro | dafen: as far as I know, there's no such command in Debian. What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 05:58.56 | boukensya | hey guys.. I am trying to play a .sub file and it doesn't seem to be working.. I have tried the -sub and v options and read through the manual again and again.. |
| 05:59.06 | dafen | Ithink it's some database things.... |
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| 05:59.57 | mwilson | dafen: If you don't even know what it is, why do you think you need to use it? |
| 06:00.08 | dafen | ask for my friend |
| 06:00.22 | dondelelcaro | dafen: db2 is the berkeley database, but most likely what you're looking for is something in db2-util |
| 06:00.22 | dafen | people, curiosity may damage your life someday |
| 06:00.29 | dondelelcaro | s/db/libdb/ |
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| 06:01.21 | trogger | PrwnDarvo: hello. |
| 06:01.41 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: you haven't run lilo or grub or whatever with the proper options. Furthermore, you're not making much sense at all. |
| 06:02.52 | trogger | !boring dpkg |
| 06:03.06 | dondelelcaro | !sacrifice trogger |
| 06:03.17 | trogger | !gentoosmite dondelcaro |
| 06:03.33 | dondelelcaro | too bad you can't even write my nick correctly... |
| 06:03.56 | trogger | dondelelcaro: hmmm. my apologies. |
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| 06:08.18 | walnuck | looks like selinux seems to provide extra security- but somewhat archaic to understand- dammit I shouldn't say this- I tried it on fc3 :o |
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| 06:09.33 | walnuck | !kill windows |
| 06:09.40 | walnuck | !kill bill gates! |
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| 06:09.49 | walnuck | !kill microsoft |
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| 06:12.32 | eraser` | hi, could somebody kindly show me how I could add support additional unicode glyphs in debian? |
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| 06:14.33 | dondelelcaro | eraser`: if you have UTF-8 support, you support them all |
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| 06:14.49 | dondelelcaro | eraser`: you may just be missing the right font to actually display that character. |
| 06:15.06 | eraser` | ah, okay I believe I am missing the appropriate fonts then |
| 06:15.20 | eraser` | are there any comprehensive fonts that could help me? |
| 06:16.25 | michal_ | hi.. i have an intel etherexpress pro/100 pci car and the eeprom seems to be corrupt.. is there anything i can do to fix it? i've tried everything with ibautil from intel.. is there anything that can be done from within linux? |
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| 06:17.19 | dondelelcaro | eraser`: there are a few, but unfortunatly, most of them are not free. I'd google for utf-8 font and debian to see what comes up |
| 06:17.33 | dondelelcaro | eraser`: I personally always forget the fonts that have most of the common glyphs in them |
| 06:17.42 | eraser` | okay, thanks for your help :p |
| 06:17.51 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: Arial Unicode :) |
| 06:18.11 | eraser` | is that in apt? |
| 06:20.05 | michal_ | looks like this $100 network card is now good for the bin :( |
| 06:21.01 | eraser` | :( |
| 06:21.02 | mwilson | If you paid $100 for an Intel NIC, you really got taken. |
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| 06:21.21 | eraser` | you could at least punch a hole through it and use it as a keychain |
| 06:22.09 | michal_ | that's how much they cost a few years ago |
| 06:22.13 | michal_ | oem ex gst price |
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| 06:24.15 | michal_ | the mac adress on the card has become FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF |
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| 06:25.52 | michal_ | is there any way to recover from such a catastrophic failure or do I need to buy another card? |
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| 06:34.41 | binarydigit | just go spend 20 bucks and buy a new nic |
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| 06:35.46 | EvanCarroll | michal_: overrid the mac address |
| 06:35.50 | EvanCarroll | ride |
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| 06:37.25 | Thaiger | This is off topic, but I'm sure everyone here has heard of the free ipods and such from gratis, but I'm wondering has anyone here ever done the lookdog.com offer, it seems almost exactly like gratis, so does anyone know if this is a scam or know of a good channel to ask around in? |
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| 06:38.01 | dondelelcaro | Thaiger: it's probably a scam too. |
| 06:38.33 | EvanCarroll | Thaiger: there is something fish about any 400.00 device thats 'free' |
| 06:38.47 | Thaiger | dondelelcaro: I figured I'm was just curious because there is no reference to it in pretty much any sites except more advertising sites |
| 06:38.49 | dondelelcaro | Thaiger: but if you want to know, call Aaron Wietzman at 248-816-7100 |
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| 06:39.01 | Thaiger | dondelelcaro: lol, yeah I already did a whois |
| 06:39.45 | EvanCarroll | Thaiger: if the word free isn't follow by software, i ignore. |
| 06:40.51 | EvanCarroll | ill be back later |
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| 06:44.13 | haruko | omfg... debian r0x0r my s0x0r! |
| 06:44.30 | robertg | ! |
| 06:44.33 | w00dst0ck | it does? *ducks, and hides* |
| 06:44.38 | haruko | Windows sucks :) |
| 06:44.42 | haruko | I love debian! |
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| 06:45.06 | thesaboteur | haruko: It may r0x0r your s0x0r , however for me it r0x0rs my b0x0r :) |
| 06:45.09 | haruko | Is there a better chat client though than bitchx its the only one I know for linux... Im looking for something a bit more... mIRC like... |
| 06:45.28 | dondelelcaro | haruko: use irssi-text |
| 06:45.30 | haruko | windows noob here so something kinda gui friendly |
| 06:45.40 | haruko | apt-get install irssi-text? |
| 06:45.50 | dli_ | what protocol for a three-button logitech mouse? |
| 06:45.59 | dondelelcaro | haruko: yes. It's not gui based, but it's the superior IRC client. |
| 06:46.00 | Xenguy | haruko: you want xchat |
| 06:46.17 | Xenguy | haruko: P.S. I use irssi because it rocks :-) |
| 06:46.24 | haruko | more GUI based? I dont want to make a really big jump yet... :-\ |
| 06:46.35 | Xenguy | ^^^ |
| 06:46.44 | haruko | I installed KDE so shoot me :P rolf |
| 06:46.45 | w00dst0ck | imps/2 |
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| 06:46.59 | grivell | haruko: xchat, or gaim. or kopete. |
| 06:47.05 | haruko | I love this little apt-get command |
| 06:47.11 | haruko | Wait Gaim has irc? |
| 06:47.15 | grivell | Yep |
| 06:47.16 | haruko | I just installed gaim.. lol |
| 06:47.19 | Xenguy | haruko: a lot of ppl do :-) |
| 06:47.36 | dli_ | w00dst0ck: using "Auto" now :( |
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| 06:47.46 | haruko | Hmm what can I use to play shoutcast streams on debian? |
| 06:47.46 | grivell | haruko: Now install Amarok, the one true music player ;) |
| 06:47.52 | haruko | :) thanks |
| 06:47.54 | haruko | that was fast :P |
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| 06:48.00 | grivell | lol |
| 06:48.24 | Bizarro_paco | can anyone troubleshoot a gnome installation? |
| 06:48.40 | grivell | haruko: http://grivell.home.comcast.net/sshots/amarok1.png |
| 06:48.51 | haruko | Gaim almost as good as Trillian I think that is one of the few things I will miss :( |
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| 06:49.07 | w00dst0ck | dli_, that should work fine, but on my system is takes a second for my mouse to respond when X comes up. Switching to IMPS/2 worked instantly for me. |
| 06:49.10 | haruko | oh I got Firefox running too :) |
| 06:49.13 | dli_ | my gnome issues dozens of nautilus :( first time to see a buggy gnome |
| 06:49.30 | haruko | quite easy! I was suprised the only time Ive ever really worked a console was MSDOS :P |
| 06:49.42 | dli_ | w00dst0ck: set to "ImPS/2" but the pointer just jumps :( |
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| 06:50.10 | dli_ | haruko: too young to be trained on those unix terminals? |
| 06:50.21 | grivell | haruko: Yeah, not for everyone. But if you are willing to learn, it is enjoyable. |
| 06:50.41 | haruko | The only complaint I have so far is I cant seem to get kde to display above 800x600 I modified the one config file (forgot the name) so I have the option for a Higher res but it wont display properly on my display is this KDE or my display? |
| 06:50.59 | haruko | dli>Only 16 :-\ |
| 06:51.10 | w00dst0ck | dli_, hmm, try running through the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 06:51.15 | Bizarro_paco | i am having trouble starting windows x. the error says: Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole:Cannot open /dev/tty0 |
| 06:51.27 | dli_ | haruko: that's why :( the chance is you never saw one of those terminals |
| 06:51.45 | dli_ | w00dst0ck: too lazy, as far as it works :) |
| 06:51.51 | haruko | My first computer was a mac :P somehow I became a staunch pc user though... |
| 06:52.14 | haruko | You know what got me intrested in debian? Mac OS's terminal program lol |
| 06:52.18 | dli_ | haruko: you do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 for display resolution |
| 06:52.20 | w00dst0ck | dli_, alrighty, it's up to you. :) |
| 06:52.24 | haruko | I love that little top and kill command :) |
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| 06:52.59 | dli_ | w00dst0ck: I love "X -configure", but for some reason, debian doesn't follow |
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| 06:53.16 | grivell | haruko: You can use Linux on a Mac ;) I do. Have an iBook G4 I'm on right now. (and Mac Mini for family). |
| 06:53.29 | haruko | Meh it was a school eMac :) |
| 06:53.31 | A714afk | wow 730 |
| 06:53.48 | haruko | Hey where do I grab the video cards bus identifer? |
| 06:53.53 | A714afk | just wondering guys, can Debian be install on a Sun box? |
| 06:54.11 | grivell | A714afk: Sparcs? |
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| 06:54.13 | dli_ | haruko: just hit the "enter" key |
| 06:54.23 | Bizarro_paco | yes it can |
| 06:54.24 | haruko | kk |
| 06:54.32 | thesaboteur | A714afk: depends on which sparc box it is. |
| 06:54.33 | A714afk | grivell, not sure |
| 06:54.35 | dli_ | A714afk: we had installed debian on sgi-irix |
| 06:54.49 | dli_ | A714afk: I think they call it sgi-indy |
| 06:54.57 | thesaboteur | A714afk: if it's like an ultra 60 then debian support for it is great :) |
| 06:55.03 | A714afk | my other branch has 8 sun box not being used, so i was just wondering if i can make some use out of it |
| 06:55.10 | thesaboteur | A714afk: if it's something with 16 processors it might not be so fun. |
| 06:55.23 | grivell | haruko: Shouldn't need too |
| 06:55.34 | grivell | doh, a little late on reply ;) |
| 06:55.34 | dli_ | A714afk: the chance is that the total speed of those 16 cpu is less than a p4 |
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| 06:55.43 | exobyte | I have an x86 debian box. I need to compile for a mips linux box (custom distro). How hard is this? |
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| 06:56.07 | A714afk | 16 cpu = less than p4? |
| 06:56.14 | dli_ | exobyte: since you are talking about compiling, why not gentoo, instead of debian? |
| 06:56.20 | bob2 | exobyte: apt-cache show toolchain-source |
| 06:56.22 | haruko | ok finsihed running the setup let me try |
| 06:56.33 | bob2 | dli_: he/she is talking about setting up a cross-compile toolchain |
| 06:56.39 | exobyte | dli_: not using gentoo, I wouldn't know about portage |
| 06:56.42 | dli_ | A714afk: I tested, our sgi-indy is less than 1/20 |
| 06:56.43 | bob2 | and for that, gentoo is useless |
| 06:56.57 | bob2 | exobyte: that package is supposed to make it simple to build aribtrary cross-compilers |
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| 06:57.11 | haruko | brb |
| 06:57.23 | exobyte | bob2: cool. How bad is changing the makefiles? |
| 06:57.35 | A714afk | is dli_ but it works on it though? |
| 06:57.35 | bob2 | exobyte: depends how horribly they are written |
| 06:57.44 | bob2 | if they're sanely done, then you just change CC in one place |
| 06:57.49 | A714afk | -is |
| 06:57.59 | Bizarro_paco | how much worse is ubuntu than debian? |
| 06:58.02 | exobyte | bob2: heh- I'll hope |
| 06:58.04 | dli_ | A714afk: didn't test for long, but the monsters are still on the table, just power down |
| 06:58.12 | bob2 | Bizarro_paco: not at all |
| 06:58.21 | A714afk | hrm |
| 06:58.26 | Xenguy | Bizarro_paco: /join #ubuntu |
| 06:58.36 | exobyte | bob2: would it be harder to get a mips emulator and install a mips os? |
| 06:58.39 | A714afk | so best to just put freebsd on it or something? |
| 06:58.56 | grivell | Bizarro_paco: As bad as Knoppix is to Debian. |
| 06:59.06 | w00dst0ck | can someone explain the difference between discover and hotplug? |
| 06:59.09 | bob2 | exobyte: I'd say so |
| 06:59.12 | bob2 | grivell: no it's not |
| 06:59.16 | bob2 | ubuntu is excellent |
| 06:59.18 | Xenguy | A714afk: good idea /me rolls eyes |
| 06:59.25 | bob2 | w00dst0ck: discover is deprecated |
| 06:59.25 | grivell | bob2: So is Knoppix ;) |
| 06:59.32 | bob2 | not as an actual OS |
| 06:59.36 | bob2 | as a rescue disk it useful |
| 06:59.37 | grivell | True |
| 06:59.42 | exobyte | bob2: bastards!! |
| 06:59.45 | w00dst0ck | bob2, so its safe to remove? |
| 06:59.53 | bob2 | w00dst0ck: if you're using 2.6, you don't need it |
| 06:59.53 | exobyte | bob2: all I want is a mips binary of sed |
| 07:00.03 | w00dst0ck | bob2, thank you. |
| 07:00.05 | Bizarro_paco | the trouble with debian is that i cannot for the life of mt get x window system set up properly |
| 07:00.08 | bob2 | exobyte: er...so get it fro myour local Debian mirror? |
| 07:00.28 | exobyte | bob2: I'd need to extract the .deb |
| 07:00.35 | bob2 | w00dst0ck: the kernel sends "hotplug" events for all pci/built-in/usb/fireware hardware it finds, so hotplug handles module loading for them |
| 07:00.38 | bob2 | exobyte: which is trivial |
| 07:00.44 | bob2 | exobyte: dpkg-deb -x blah.deb /tmp/blah/ |
| 07:00.50 | Xenguy | Bizarro_paco: you've tried -> dpkg-reconfigure xfree-xserver ? |
| 07:01.08 | Bizarro_paco | (Xenguy): yes I have |
| 07:01.23 | bob2 | Bizarro_paco: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 07:01.31 | bob2 | if you can't figure it out, just use ubuntu |
| 07:01.33 | w00dst0ck | bob2, understood. Just curious really. Is there a way to make hotplug less verbose during bootup? |
| 07:01.34 | dli_ | bob2: what's the role of acpi in hotplug? |
| 07:01.35 | exobyte | bob2: thx. off to the debian system... |
| 07:01.46 | bob2 | w00dst0ck: I don't know |
| 07:01.57 | exobyte | bob2: what I'm trying to do is give my netgear router trafic shaping |
| 07:02.08 | w00dst0ck | bob2,k thanks. |
| 07:02.17 | bob2 | dli_: none, afaik |
| 07:02.29 | bob2 | except insomuch as the kernel uses acpi to find out about your irq routing/etc |
| 07:02.31 | bob2 | (Ithink) |
| 07:02.41 | bob2 | exobyte: there are no pre-canned linux distributions for it? |
| 07:02.48 | bob2 | there's like fifty for my mips linksys thing |
| 07:02.56 | exobyte | bob2: I looked around a little |
| 07:03.11 | dli_ | bob2: strange, they said they changed from PNP to acpi for keyboard initilization in 2.6.11 kernel |
| 07:03.28 | dli_ | bob2: and I lose keyboard then in 2.6.11 |
| 07:03.31 | exobyte | bob2: I'm using a lot of the linksys resources, but this has an integrated DSL modem, so I'd have to copy modules over |
| 07:03.33 | bob2 | it might use it for basic on board stuff like that, I guess |
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| 07:03.42 | bob2 | but hotplug doesn't use acpi to scan the pci bus or anything |
| 07:03.49 | bob2 | exobyte: right, that sounds painful |
| 07:04.04 | exobyte | bob2: so I'm trying to base it off the netgear firmware |
| 07:04.09 | bob2 | dli_: er, but I don't that involes hotplug |
| 07:04.40 | dli_ | bob2: oh, I thought PNP and hotplug the same thing |
| 07:04.55 | bob2 | no |
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| 07:10.04 | haruko | Hmm |
| 07:10.10 | haruko | I need to get a better set up than this |
| 07:10.25 | haruko | and it was the moniter I forgot its max display was 800x600 :P |
| 07:11.22 | exobyte | isn't is amazing that I can get a .deb from a random server, extract it in my dorm room, send the file across the country to home, and ftp it to the router? |
| 07:11.32 | haruko | lol |
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| 07:13.27 | haruko | Hmm I need help installing the sound card for this machine it doesnt detect it is a old Dell GXa any help google isnt really pulling hits up |
| 07:14.22 | blahdeblah | Hi folks, looking for some help with mdadm and reconstructing an MD superblock - any takers? |
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| 07:19.52 | exobyte | bob2: still around? |
| 07:21.41 | ferris | exobyte, i don't think he his here |
| 07:22.00 | haruko | Hey is there a way to have my machine shutdown with out needing to be root? |
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| 07:22.05 | haruko | I cant seem to figure it oout |
| 07:22.08 | haruko | out* |
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| 07:22.49 | ferris | your system doesn't shut down by going to computer then logout, then shutdown? |
| 07:22.51 | exobyte | ferris: thx. I guess it's bedtime anyway |
| 07:23.18 | haruko | ? huh? |
| 07:23.28 | raz_ | morning guyz : ) |
| 07:23.34 | ferris | morning |
| 07:23.39 | haruko | After I log out of KDE I still have to su to allow me to shutdown :-\ |
| 07:23.47 | haruko | maybe Im doing something wrong just another noob |
| 07:24.01 | haruko | I like this shutdown delay option :) |
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| 07:25.49 | blahdeblah | No mdadm experts out there? |
| 07:26.21 | ygnome | whats mdadm? :) |
| 07:26.37 | underdog | guys. how do I set the repos to be unstable? |
| 07:26.39 | blahdeblah | Very funny. |
| 07:26.44 | underdog | s/be/use |
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| 07:26.54 | bob2 | exobyte: for a minute |
| 07:27.27 | blahdeblah | underdog: You mean for apt-get? /etc/apt/sources.list - change the first field after the URL |
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| 07:29.38 | haruko | Howdy! |
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| 07:30.43 | haruko | Hmm |
| 07:30.52 | haruko | how do I unignore the nickserv bot in bitchx? |
| 07:31.19 | gandy909 | is there a way to have apt list any installed packages that are not stable? i.e. I have 30r4 stable running, but I installed a couple of thing from testing, but then I didn't remove the sources.list line after. Now I'm not sure if more testing packages might have 'slipped' in on me |
| 07:31.40 | DebUser | What's the default X terminal emulator for Debian? |
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| 07:31.48 | raz_ | xterm |
| 07:31.54 | cdc | i installed 2.6.8-2 couple of days back and everything worked perfectly but today i left my system with the screen locked for some hours and when i switched on the monitor i saw the system was frozen nothing worked how do i trace the error |
| 07:31.59 | blahdeblah | gandy909: apt-show-versions|grep testing, etc. |
| 07:32.21 | gandy909 | blahdeblah, thanks! |
| 07:32.39 | raz_ | i translate your request :p |
| 07:32.45 | raz_ | i try to understand :D |
| 07:33.08 | blahdeblah | cdc: look in syslog (usually /var/adm/messages) for the last few events - hopefully that will shed some light on it. Most likely hardware, though. |
| 07:33.14 | blahdeblah | gandy909: :-) |
| 07:33.25 | ygnome | cdc: well, if you have another system handy, you could try ssh'ing in and seeing if it's X or the system that's locked... |
| 07:33.37 | raz_ | if you want testing apt-list you just have to change in your source.list the url define |
| 07:33.42 | raz_ | i think. |
| 07:33.50 | cdc | i restarted the system by pressing the restart button :-( |
| 07:34.00 | blahdeblah | syslog still should have something |
| 07:34.32 | cdc | blahdeblah, |
| 07:34.38 | cdc | where is syslog located |
| 07:34.49 | raz_ | /var/log/syslog |
| 07:34.49 | cdc | in /var/log/ is it? |
| 07:35.11 | blahdeblah | That's what raz_ said. |
| 07:35.44 | cdc | blahdeblah, now i ve opened that file how do i trace the error |
| 07:36.01 | raz_ | i know things =) |
| 07:36.05 | blahdeblah | Look at the end and see what the messages are. |
| 07:36.32 | cdc | Mar 5 13:08:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[2889]: (mail) CMD ( if [ -x /usr/lib/exim/exim3 -a -f /etc/exim/exim.conf ]; then /usr/lib/exim/exim3 -q ; fi) |
| 07:36.38 | cdc | this is the final one |
| 07:37.02 | blahdeblah | cdc: that's not very likely - try excluding things that repeat often (like cron) |
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| 07:38.08 | cdc | it can also be due to X Server right? |
| 07:38.23 | cdc | i ve opened the XFree85.log and i find some unusual messages |
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| 07:38.41 | cdc | AUDIT: Sat Mar 5 13:10:49 2005: 2603 X: client 21 rejected from local host |
| 07:38.55 | cdc | The above message is repeated some 10 times in that file |
| 07:39.10 | blahdeblah | not likely the cause of a hang - just some program trying to start and not having sufficient X permissions |
| 07:39.16 | ygnome | cdc: is it the last message? |
| 07:39.22 | cdc | ygnome, yes |
| 07:39.27 | haruko | I cant seem to get kde to see my sound card can anyone help? |
| 07:39.43 | cdc | the above message is repeated some 10 times thats it |
| 07:39.46 | blahdeblah | * Asking again to all: looking for some advice on mdadm and reconstructing a messed-up superblock |
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| 07:40.28 | ygnome | cdc: you were running screesaver? |
| 07:40.33 | ygnome | n |
| 07:40.35 | cdc | ygnome, yes |
| 07:40.47 | cdc | i locked my system and i was running screensaver |
| 07:40.49 | cdc | and i left my system |
| 07:40.57 | ygnome | cdc: with 3d modules? |
| 07:41.21 | cdc | yes of course it was an OPENGL screensaver GLMatrix which comes with KDE |
| 07:41.24 | cdc | by default |
| 07:41.27 | cdc | you are perfect |
| 07:41.32 | cdc | so whats the problem |
| 07:41.34 | cdc | :-) |
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| 07:41.53 | ygnome | cdc: try setting it to blank the screen. bet it doesn't lock again :) |
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| 07:42.17 | helix | boo, screensavers |
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| 07:42.30 | SiliconViper | -_- It seems that every Debian-based distro I try, always seems to be so much more problematic than pure Debian. |
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| 07:42.43 | SiliconViper | I cannot seem to understand what the draw to them is. |
| 07:42.44 | ygnome | helix: there only fun for 5 minutes anyhow. |
| 07:42.45 | cdc | ygnome, u want me to set a blank screensaver as the default one and then i should try locking the screen again |
| 07:43.03 | blahdeblah | SV: Which are you trying? I'm using sarge, but i've heard Ubuntu is quite good for desktops. |
| 07:43.05 | SiliconViper | I mean, I love how Progeny is almost entirely set up out-of-the-box. |
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| 07:43.21 | ygnome | cdc: yea. just set it to blank. the animated screensavers can cause problems. |
| 07:43.42 | DebUser | Is there a Debian package for Windowmaker themes? |
| 07:43.54 | SiliconViper | blahdeblah, oh, I've tried a few. Not so much because I want anything more than Debian, but because I like to explore, and see what makes these others so nice. |
| 07:43.56 | blahdeblah | ygnome: I'm using BSoD, and it has never crashed anything on me. |
| 07:44.15 | SiliconViper | The main ones I've played with are... Knoppix, Ubuntu, and Progeny. |
| 07:44.18 | cdc | ygnome, shouldnt i use normal screensavers too which does not have this GL stuff? |
| 07:44.23 | ygnome | blahdeblah: maybe that's more carefully coded than the others :) |
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| 07:44.57 | ygnome | cdc: sure, but try blank for a while to see if the lockup is system or screensaver. |
| 07:45.17 | blahdeblah | yg: it certainly looks convincing. One of my team at work had his Win2k box crash a while back, and a BSoD screensaver user said to him - nice screensaver. :-) |
| 07:45.50 | ygnome | heh. |
| 07:45.53 | blahdeblah | SV: Latest sarge works a treat for me as a desktop OS. |
| 07:46.20 | SiliconViper | blahdeblah, oh, I've had no problems with Debian. |
| 07:46.22 | SiliconViper | I love it. |
| 07:46.28 | SiliconViper | I just wanted to 'try something new'. |
| 07:46.38 | SiliconViper | Just for the sake of exploring. |
| 07:46.44 | ygnome | SiliconViper: use unstable. it's always new :) |
| 07:46.49 | ferris | Debian is the greatest! |
| 07:46.54 | SiliconViper | ygnome, not 'new', 'different'. |
| 07:46.58 | ferris | i am using sarge |
| 07:46.58 | blahdeblah | SV: New shmew. "There's nothing new under the sun." -- Ecclesiastes |
| 07:47.06 | SiliconViper | ygnome, you don't know me then, eh? |
| 07:47.21 | SiliconViper | I'm that crazy dude who does crazy things. |
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| 07:47.30 | blahdeblah | Dinner time - please someone who knows about mdadm show up while i'm gone! :-) |
| 07:47.33 | cdc | ygnome, i have set it as blank i ll check now |
| 07:47.36 | ygnome | SiliconViper: no, I really don't know you. |
| 07:47.48 | cdc | ygnome, and i ve an other problem could you please help me in configuring exim or send mail |
| 07:47.56 | peterS | SiliconViper: n.b. most people who think they are more crazy than others are flattering themselves. I don't know if that's true for you, but it's true for most |
| 07:47.58 | cdc | i need it for a project |
| 07:48.21 | ygnome | cdc: ask here, I may not know anything about mail :) |
| 07:48.32 | cdc | oh ok |
| 07:48.52 | cdc | could anyone help me in configuring exim i ve installed but i am unable to execute it nor configure it |
| 07:48.59 | SiliconViper | peterS, nah, I do it for fun, and to see if it can be done. I just seem to always end up with many people (especially here) calling me a lunatic. |
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| 07:49.20 | ygnome | SiliconViper: of course. this is #debian :) |
| 07:49.37 | SiliconViper | I know, the highest concentration of jaded users on FreeNode. ^_~ |
| 07:49.51 | ygnome | where the marauding sharks devour newbies :) |
| 07:49.55 | peterS | SiliconViper: I don't know about that. there are jaded users everywhere |
| 07:50.15 | nagual | SiliconViper: what is 'crazy stuff'? |
| 07:50.16 | SiliconViper | peterS, never said there wasn't. There just seems to be the most in one place, right here. |
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| 07:50.35 | nagual | i mean, what have you done lately thats crazy? |
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| 07:50.48 | nagual | oh xk, ein österreicher |
| 07:50.58 | xk | what's the proper arguments to cdrecord to burn to cdrw on 2.6.x kernel? |
| 07:51.06 | ygnome | SiliconViper: at least there's a 'here' been to #winxp lately? |
| 07:51.09 | SiliconViper | nagual: depends. Sometimes I do things like trying to do a hybrid of Unstable+Experimental+Hoary, to see if it could be done. |
| 07:51.20 | SiliconViper | ygnome, what's #winxp? |
| 07:51.22 | nagual | hoary? |
| 07:51.24 | peterS | xk: what do you mean 'burn a cdrw' - as opposed to a cdr? |
| 07:51.44 | ygnome | SiliconViper: it doesn't exist. the users are too jaded to start it. |
| 07:52.02 | SiliconViper | ygnome, I see. Wouldn't know. Haven't used Windows in a long time. |
| 07:52.17 | peterS | xk: for just burning a CD-R, you can just use 'cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom filename.iso', anything else is optional |
| 07:52.18 | xk | peterS: well... ok... doesn't matter if it's cdrw or not... I don't remmeber what's the new arguments to burn on 2.6.x or without ide-scsi |
| 07:52.19 | ygnome | SiliconViper: they pay the 'tech' to fix things instead :) |
| 07:52.36 | peterS | xk: basically you're wanting 'dev=/dev/whatever' instead of 'dev=0,0,0' |
| 07:53.05 | SiliconViper | nagual, awhile back, I tried making a hybrid Gentoo/Debian install. That was.. fun. |
| 07:53.15 | xk | peterS: ok, cool. thanks. |
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| 07:53.48 | xk | forgot -v, heh. |
| 07:53.56 | brullo | SiliconViper, Hybrid Gentoo/Debian install? Jesus. |
| 07:54.13 | SiliconViper | nagual, I also do things that are just plain dumb sometimes, like running this kernel here... 2.6.11-rc5-nitro0-x1-686 |
| 07:54.16 | peterS | xk: right, -v -eject etc. are useful too |
| 07:54.25 | SiliconViper | brullo, it was an adventure. |
| 07:54.47 | f0ssi | hi guys :) |
| 07:54.52 | xk | peterS: yeah, I have that in my original script. just that I usually burn dvd and got off cdrecord-prodvd to growisofs. |
| 07:55.15 | SiliconViper | brullo, the main reason I do things like that, is because it's a learning experience. The amount of stuff that breaks, and the fun of figuring out how to fix it? I love it. And I always end up learning something useful. |
| 07:55.34 | xk | bt878(0): irq FTRGT FBUS risc_pc=1f6571a8 |
| 07:55.36 | xk | what does that mean? |
| 07:55.55 | brullo | SiliconViper, Why dont you try to surf the web on hackercracker sites with a totally unpatched Windows XP, ofcourse without antivirus and logged in as adminstrator. Thats an adventure... |
| 07:55.59 | xk | never used to happen on my old/slow computer |
| 07:56.12 | SiliconViper | brullo, I'd need windows to do that. |
| 07:56.22 | SiliconViper | brullo, also, I wouldn't learn anything there. |
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| 07:57.19 | f0ssi | hey guys i have a "little" network problem with debian .. can s.o. help me ? |
| 07:57.27 | SiliconViper | brullo, hybridizing Gentoo and Debian? You learn a fantastic amount about both distros, and how all the peices fit together. Sometimes stuff that you thought you had figured out, are seen differently. |
| 07:58.00 | ygnome | f0ssi: just ask... |
| 07:58.24 | SiliconViper | brullo, besides, there is a fine line between adventurous, and just stupid. I try not to cross that line often. Using windows, isn't something I'd do. |
| 07:58.25 | xk | is RTC required on a non-SMP system? |
| 07:58.52 | f0ssi | kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 07:58.52 | f0ssi | .. |
| 07:59.14 | f0ssi | my ISP (its a dedicated server) fixed that problem but i reinstalled the system and now i want to know how to fix it |
| 07:59.23 | f0ssi | i just know that there is a kernel error |
| 08:00.25 | brullo | f0ssi, 3com nic? |
| 08:00.31 | f0ssi | dunno |
| 08:00.43 | f0ssi | i'm a linux newbe thats the main problem :) |
| 08:00.48 | xk | if you don't know what nic you have... then how did you load the nic driver. |
| 08:01.01 | ygnome | f0ssi: lspci will list the devices for you |
| 08:01.03 | f0ssi | its a pre-configured system |
| 08:01.18 | xk | doesn't mean the config disappears |
| 08:01.21 | f0ssi | Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Ethernet Controller (rev 74) |
| 08:01.40 | f0ssi | so ? |
| 08:01.51 | xk | via-rhine? |
| 08:02.02 | f0ssi | so i need the via-rhine driver |
| 08:02.12 | f0ssi | wasnt sure..read somethin about it |
| 08:02.19 | xk | I had a via rhine card... was flakey as hell. |
| 08:02.56 | ygnome | f0ssi: do you know which driver is loaded for that? |
| 08:03.05 | xk | lsmod| grep via |
| 08:03.09 | f0ssi | i dont know anything :c |
| 08:03.10 | xk | dmesg| grep -i via |
| 08:03.23 | xk | if you don't know anything... you shouldn't be messing around with a linux box, let alone debian. |
| 08:03.45 | f0ssi | via-rhine 12484 1 |
| 08:03.51 | xk | run linux on your desktop, then you'll learn something. |
| 08:04.20 | ygnome | f0ssi: this is a remote box? |
| 08:04.25 | f0ssi | yes |
| 08:04.45 | ygnome | f0ssi: xk is right. you could lose it off the network. |
| 08:04.53 | f0ssi | dammit |
| 08:05.05 | f0ssi | then i have to wait till monday to let the provider fixx the problem |
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| 08:05.45 | ygnome | f0ssi: well, unless the problem is so bad you don't care if it goes down. |
| 08:06.05 | f0ssi | i cant do anything cuz the connection interrupts when i try to transfer files with <5 mb/sec |
| 08:06.16 | ygnome | f0ssi: maybe it's a switch problem at the provider... |
| 08:06.24 | f0ssi | thats what i thought |
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| 08:06.33 | f0ssi | but they fixed the problem once |
| 08:06.41 | f0ssi | and said that it was a kernel problem |
| 08:06.48 | xk | f0ssi: sounds like the card is flakey - replace it with an intel. |
| 08:06.55 | ygnome | f0ssi: maybe his switch doesn't like the netcard and it has to be set maunually to fdx on both ends. |
| 08:06.58 | xk | it's not a kernel problem, it's a shitty hardware problem. |
| 08:07.12 | f0ssi | damn .. |
| 08:07.14 | brullo | f0ssi, Could be crappy hardware...some older 3com NICs for instance does not fully implement the PCI standards so they screw up in a Cisco catalyst 2900 environment. |
| 08:07.45 | xk | f0ssi: I had the same thing happen with my via rhine... I couldn't do >3meg/sec. |
| 08:07.48 | xk | otherwise it would just shit itself. |
| 08:07.55 | brullo | f0ssi, http://www.google.se/search?q=NETDEV+WATCHDOG%3A+eth0%3A+transmit+timed+out&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial |
| 08:07.58 | ygnome | f0ssi: you can see the errors in ifconfig eth0 |
| 08:08.54 | f0ssi | k |
| 08:09.18 | f0ssi | anyways .. then i have to wait till monday |
| 08:09.40 | f0ssi | thanks guys .. |
| 08:09.50 | f0ssi | have a nice day i'm out |
| 08:09.54 | ygnome | f0ssi: good luck with it |
| 08:09.58 | f0ssi | thanks |
| 08:10.27 | xk | hrm. |
| 08:12.25 | ygnome | SiliconViper: yea, and out of date tomorrow :) |
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| 08:12.47 | SiliconViper | ygnome, I know... that's one of many reasons why I said it's probably a bad idea. |
| 08:13.13 | SiliconViper | Although, just because it's not the latest version, doesn't make it bad. |
| 08:13.25 | xk | who would install from CD? |
| 08:13.29 | xk | better off with DVD |
| 08:13.29 | ygnome | I like my sid box :) |
| 08:13.32 | SiliconViper | Although I don't know how applicable that statement is for Sid. |
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| 08:14.01 | SiliconViper | ygnome, yep, my Sid boxes run smoothly. Nothing I can't handle, yet. |
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| 08:14.20 | SiliconViper | Although, that 'special' bug in the apache2 pacakge a few weeks back was fun to fix. |
| 08:14.26 | ygnome | SiliconViper: it's supposed to be unstable. not for me. |
| 08:14.43 | underdog | guys, anyone here running on a toshiba laptop? |
| 08:14.56 | SiliconViper | ygnome, I know, it's quite stable. Hella unstable compared to Woody, but still rock-solid compared to many distros. |
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| 08:16.23 | ygnome | SiliconViper: got a few woody boxes here, very stable, but sid's not far behind. maybe I'm lucky with what I run on it or something. |
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| 08:16.39 | potazium | Hi |
| 08:16.40 | SiliconViper | ygnome, I've been running Unstable on most of my networks for a good long time, and it's not really very problematic at all. |
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| 08:17.08 | potazium | i am tryinh to install debian but i have problems with my ATI x800 card |
| 08:17.12 | potazium | x wont load |
| 08:17.13 | potazium | :< |
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| 08:17.19 | SiliconViper | potazium, ouch. |
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| 08:17.32 | potazium | can this be solved ? |
| 08:17.35 | ygnome | SiliconViper: it's tempting, just the updates are large, which is a problem on low bandwidth networks. |
| 08:18.08 | potazium | are there any updates regarding the problem / |
| 08:18.10 | potazium | ? |
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| 08:19.02 | SiliconViper | ygnome, see, I don't have that problem. I just have one box, that does a nightly rsync with a nearby mirror, and the rest of the network gets updates from there. |
| 08:19.07 | brullo | A friend of mine runs a unstable/samba3 box as a fileserver for 1200+ users. Has been running great for a long time. Myself I use stable/samba3, I am not that adventurous :-) |
| 08:20.16 | ygnome | SiliconViper: the mirror is cool, it's the updates over crap networks that's the problem. |
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| 08:21.17 | xk | hrm |
| 08:21.31 | SiliconViper | brullo, I've only got ~700 users on mine. |
| 08:22.01 | SiliconViper | but yeah, I rarely have problems. |
| 08:22.06 | ygnome | there's also the issue of some packages not in woody and hard to get there because of libc being so old. |
| 08:22.10 | SiliconViper | Aside from that apache2 one a while back. |
| 08:22.17 | SiliconViper | That was... interesting. |
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| 08:23.15 | tuxyRochefort | hi how to replace metacity with sawfish ? |
| 08:23.15 | DebUser | How can I find more info on a package? |
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| 08:23.26 | xk | apt-cache show <pkg> |
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| 08:23.32 | brullo | SiliconViper, unstable/samba3 ? |
| 08:23.53 | |SeRA| | hello |
| 08:23.59 | |SeRA| | where are you from guys? |
| 08:24.01 | |SeRA| | :) |
| 08:24.28 | SiliconViper | brullo, no samba. |
| 08:25.12 | brullo | SiliconViper, What? You cant dance? :-) |
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| 08:25.33 | SiliconViper | brullo, ;p |
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| 08:26.13 | nagytalop | re |
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| 08:26.34 | brullo | SiliconViper, Since you are this mad person, have you tried Adamantix? |
| 08:26.47 | nagytalop | anybody use SID? |
| 08:27.18 | ygnome | yup. lots. |
| 08:27.44 | nagytalop | work well? :))) |
| 08:27.56 | SiliconViper | brullo, nope! |
| 08:27.58 | nagytalop | i wanna upgrade but i donno... |
| 08:28.41 | streuner_ | nagytalog: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 08:28.46 | ferris | step up to sarge |
| 08:28.55 | ferris | it rocks |
| 08:29.06 | nagytalop | i use sarge thats good |
| 08:29.27 | ygnome | nagytalop: if youre game sid is cool. if not, testing like ferris says. |
| 08:29.37 | nagytalop | ok |
| 08:29.38 | nagytalop | :) |
| 08:29.44 | paulswm | nagytalop: sid is unstalbe. breakage may occur from time to time. |
| 08:29.48 | brullo | SiliconViper, Then I get some sparetime I will do an experiment with adamantix/samba3 and maybe apache and see. I have some problems on my huge intranet, especially those evil cisco academy pupils :-) |
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| 08:30.18 | ferris | just be sure to upgrade the kernel |
| 08:30.38 | SiliconViper | brullo, heh. |
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| 08:31.31 | nagytalop | thanxomuch :) |
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| 08:32.57 | nagytalop | bye ;) |
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| 08:33.19 | brullo | SiliconViper, apt-cache show kernel-patch-adamantix ... smells interesting. Oh yes, or perhaps oh no... :-P |
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| 08:34.02 | Lee__ | is vlc in sarge? |
| 08:34.22 | xk | dpkg: info vlc |
| 08:34.23 | streuner_ | !info vlc sarge |
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| 08:34.26 | raz_ | sure |
| 08:34.28 | dpkg | vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 4819 kB, Installed size: 11708 kB |
| 08:34.36 | Lee__ | ha, sid! |
| 08:34.37 | streuner_ | !info vlc sarge |
| 08:34.42 | raz_ | sid so sarge |
| 08:34.43 | raz_ | o? |
| 08:34.47 | xk | if it's in sid... it should be in sarge ;) |
| 08:34.49 | raz_ | sid before sarge ? |
| 08:34.52 | blahdeblah | Righto! Stomach full, time for another poll: who knows secret wisdom about **mdadm**? |
| 08:34.52 | streuner_ | no |
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| 08:35.06 | raz_ | sid = unstable ? |
| 08:35.06 | shastry | hi all |
| 08:35.07 | Lee__ | I can't find it in sarge. |
| 08:35.07 | streuner_ | Lee__: /msg dpkg simple sid package |
| 08:35.10 | xk | dpkg: info vlc sarge |
| 08:35.18 | xk | weird... doesn't exist in sarge. |
| 08:35.18 | streuner_ | dpkg> Package 'vlc' does not exist. |
| 08:35.19 | galois | xk: isn't sid unstable and sarge testing? |
| 08:35.21 | SiliconViper | Anyways, I'm off to sleep now! |
| 08:35.26 | SiliconViper | Night everyone. |
| 08:35.26 | blahdeblah | galois: yes |
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| 08:35.30 | Lee__ | thanks... |
| 08:35.35 | xk | ahh... thats' what I did - I installed it from unstable ;) |
| 08:35.38 | raz_ | xk: isn't sid unstable and sarge testing? <- agree |
| 08:35.42 | xk | raz_: correct. |
| 08:35.47 | raz_ | =) |
| 08:35.53 | shastry | i have a debian dvd iso |
| 08:35.59 | raz_ | nice :) |
| 08:36.01 | shastry | but i dont have a dvd writer |
| 08:36.05 | raz_ | :( |
| 08:36.10 | shastry | any way i can install debian with that iso ? |
| 08:36.11 | ferris | lol |
| 08:36.22 | xk | shasty: write the floppy image to floppy. |
| 08:36.39 | xk | or burn the floppy to cdr with the image as boot. |
| 08:36.40 | shastry | xk, ok and the installer will let me choose the iso as the source ? |
| 08:36.56 | shastry | xk, uh floppy to cdr ? |
| 08:37.00 | shastry | i can boot with floppy |
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| 08:37.16 | xk | yeah... you can boot from floppy images on cdr, just needs to be burn in a special way |
| 08:37.27 | shastry | ok and then ? |
| 08:37.30 | xk | bootable grub cd is cool :) |
| 08:37.42 | xk | shastry: well... where is the image located? |
| 08:37.49 | shastry | xk on my disk |
| 08:37.52 | shastry | harddisk |
| 08:37.55 | shastry | /dev/hda4 lets say |
| 08:37.59 | xk | on the same machine? on a ext2 partition? |
| 08:38.06 | shastry | reiserfs partition |
| 08:38.09 | shastry | same machine |
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| 08:38.17 | xk | reiserfs... not sure if debian has support for that. |
| 08:38.24 | roamm | anyone know if i can apt-get gmake? |
| 08:38.29 | roamm | i dont want to compile gmake manually. |
| 08:38.35 | xk | dpkg: info gmake sarge |
| 08:38.43 | streuner_ | gmake is a symlink to make... |
| 08:38.46 | shastry | xk, i suppose it must have the modules to mount a reiser parition |
| 08:38.53 | streuner_ | in debian... |
| 08:39.03 | roamm | ahh |
| 08:39.11 | raz_ | does anyone have a few time to help me for my audigy gamer sound card ? i dont have sound. |
| 08:39.18 | xk | shastry: hrm.. |
| 08:39.26 | streuner_ | !gmake |
| 08:39.26 | shastry | xk, i can arrange for an ext2 partition |
| 08:39.26 | dpkg | i heard gmake is the GNU make, or ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/make or ln -s /usr/bin/make /usr/local/bin/gmake |
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| 08:39.36 | shastry | xk, i alos have a spare fat32 partition |
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| 08:39.41 | xk | shastry: well, I presume there's reiserfs3 support, but not 4. |
| 08:39.49 | f0ssi | <-back again |
| 08:39.54 | shastry | yea i dont use reiser4 - just reiser3.6 |
| 08:40.00 | xk | it should work |
| 08:40.08 | f0ssi | i have another question .. what is the conted of the default source.list file ? |
| 08:40.12 | xk | then just mount it with the loopback |
| 08:40.13 | f0ssi | *contend |
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| 08:40.21 | shastry | xk, ok - where do i specify the installer to use the iso ? |
| 08:40.24 | xk | and set the source to the path to the mounted point. |
| 08:40.32 | shastry | xk, ah i have to mount it! ok |
| 08:40.37 | xk | that's what I'd do. |
| 08:40.42 | shastry | xk, -o loop right ? |
| 08:40.43 | xk | not simple... but it should work :) |
| 08:40.47 | xk | shastry: yep! |
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| 08:40.50 | shastry | ok |
| 08:40.52 | shastry | thnx |
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| 08:41.04 | streuner_ | f0ssi: run 'apt-setup' |
| 08:41.09 | raz_ | tought :) |
| 08:41.14 | raz_ | thought. |
| 08:41.47 | raz_ | is there any special channel for the sound ? |
| 08:41.53 | raz_ | under a debian. |
| 08:42.07 | f0ssi | okay thanks |
| 08:43.05 | streuner_ | raz_: just ask your question |
| 08:43.26 | raz_ | mh .. i dont know why i dont have sound .... :/ |
| 08:43.34 | xk | raz_: 2.6.x kernel? |
| 08:43.39 | raz_ | x=10 |
| 08:43.41 | xk | raz_: run alsamixer. |
| 08:43.41 | streuner_ | tell us more details |
| 08:43.47 | raz_ | well. |
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| 08:43.58 | xk | tell me if you can see any devices. |
| 08:44.09 | xk | and if the bars are marked or not (0 volume) or have MM at the top of them. |
| 08:44.24 | raz_ | i set sound as module in the kernel. i already test to place the driver in the kernel... without success. |
| 08:44.29 | raz_ | lsmod is ok |
| 08:44.36 | raz_ | lspci is ok |
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| 08:44.41 | xk | why not use alsaconf? |
| 08:44.48 | xk | it's simple, easy, and it works. |
| 08:44.48 | streuner_ | so custom kernel, go and use an official kernel then |
| 08:44.59 | xk | I even use a custom kernel, alsaconf works beaut. |
| 08:45.09 | xk | proviidng you compiled the right modules |
| 08:45.25 | raz_ | 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03) |
| 08:45.43 | streuner_ | raz_: copy the whole section of sound (ALSA) to your config and recompile |
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| 08:46.03 | streuner_ | oh, audigy is a bitch... |
| 08:46.12 | raz_ | roflmao :p |
| 08:46.19 | streuner_ | they have different soundchip, could be cause headaches... |
| 08:46.34 | streuner_ | soundchips* |
| 08:46.44 | raz_ | ah.... thats why. it is a creative sound card. |
| 08:46.50 | raz_ | The audigy Player |
| 08:47.03 | streuner_ | sure, you need to know what soundchip it has inside |
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| 08:47.25 | raz_ | In the kernel sound section, i've set ALSA as module. |
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| 08:47.35 | raz_ | and OSS ( deprecated) is completly off |
| 08:47.52 | streuner_ | raz_: try an official kernel first, if that doesn't work use 'usenet' |
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| 08:48.14 | raz_ | okay but. where can i found it ? www.kernel.org ? |
| 08:48.33 | tzafrir_laptop | any amavisd users here? Where does amavisd send its logs to? |
| 08:48.40 | streuner_ | official kernels? well, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.x |
| 08:48.47 | raz_ | well. |
| 08:48.53 | raz_ | i go try it. thx. brb :) |
| 08:49.06 | streuner_ | !kernel avail |
| 08:49.07 | dpkg | i heard kernel avail is http://people.debian.org/~dannf/kernel-stats/kernel-avail.html |
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| 08:50.32 | eraser` | some of the latest alsa updates made my ICH4 stop working |
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| 08:51.09 | raz_ | there is no kernel-image 2.6.10 installable. and when i try to apt-get : the kernel list is very strange, it contain all my old compiled kernel i did. |
| 08:51.14 | streuner_ | talking about alsa-src, file a bugreport then |
| 08:51.28 | cdc | could anyone help me in setting up exim |
| 08:51.29 | streuner_ | sarge? see what dpkg told already |
| 08:51.32 | cdc | i have installed exim |
| 08:51.38 | cdc | but i am facing problems with that |
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| 08:51.50 | cdc | not able to test mailing which is required for one of my projects |
| 08:52.01 | raz_ | this is strange ... ... ... |
| 08:52.11 | streuner_ | cdc: for using it via smarthost? 3 or 4? |
| 08:52.15 | raz_ | im in total disapointmen. |
| 08:52.34 | streuner_ | raz_: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
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| 08:52.56 | cdc | streuner_, i am not sure about what smarthost it i just need to check mailing i ve created a portal which has automatic emailing system so i need to check whether mailing works |
| 08:53.31 | raz_ | thx but. why do the fucking list show me MY OLD kernel compile ???? |
| 08:53.44 | raz_ | i ve delete all files about it. |
| 08:54.05 | streuner_ | cdc: ok, that doesn't sound for smarthost then :-) - /j #exim |
| 08:54.12 | raz_ | i'll show you the lsit : |
| 08:54.15 | raz_ | kernel-image-2.6.10-c8 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.10-c8. |
| 08:54.15 | raz_ | kernel-image-2.6.10-c9 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.10-c9. |
| 08:54.15 | raz_ | kernel-image-2.6.10-c4 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.10-c4. |
| 08:54.15 | raz_ | kernel-image-2.6.10-c5 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.10-c5. |
| 08:54.15 | raz_ | kernel-image-2.6.10-c6 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.10-c6. |
| 08:54.15 | paulswm | raz_: because you installed your custom kernel with dpkg -i. |
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| 08:54.38 | raz_ | kernel-image-2.6.10.041230 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.10.041230. |
| 08:54.40 | raz_ | kernel-image-2.6.10.050117 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.10.050117. |
| 08:54.42 | raz_ | kernel-image-2.6.10-v2 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.10-v2. |
| 08:54.44 | raz_ | apologize |
| 08:54.44 | streuner_ | stop |
| 08:54.46 | raz_ | correct paulswm |
| 08:54.52 | raz_ | yes sry. |
| 08:55.19 | paulswm | raz_: apt-get remove --purge kernel-image-2.6.10-c8 , etc |
| 08:55.47 | raz_ | ok paulswm but i think that dont resolv the real problm atm. |
| 08:55.53 | paulswm | raz_: Or whatever your custom compiles are called |
| 08:56.05 | paulswm | raz_: You asked how to remove them. |
| 08:56.15 | raz_ | bah... yes... i thank you : ) |
| 08:56.20 | paulswm | :) |
| 08:56.37 | raz_ | but the real problm is : i dont have sound with my new compile... |
| 08:56.42 | raz_ | with any compile |
| 08:56.47 | paulswm | raz_: As regards sound, follow the others' advice |
| 08:57.07 | biglaughing | . |
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| 08:57.34 | paulswm | raz_: And to find an official kernel, 'apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6' and pick one |
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| 08:57.42 | raz_ | lol :) |
| 08:57.48 | underdog | dpkg: tell me about install java |
| 08:57.59 | raz_ | the list below show the only possibility of download. |
| 08:58.26 | davi | Thought I watch TV using kernel 2.4.x, I am unable to do it when using 2.6.10!. Note I execute the same modprove with the same parameters to configure the hardware. Any tip?. |
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| 08:58.31 | raz_ | no std kernel-image downloadable. |
| 08:58.45 | raz_ | only my old dpkg :p |
| 08:59.16 | raz_ | i have never seen resolv problm by an another. |
| 08:59.36 | streuner_ | davi: official kernel? |
| 08:59.37 | tzafrir_laptop | raz_, what do you need this kernel for? |
| 09:00.04 | raz_ | at start i dont want to change kernel. |
| 09:00.09 | paulswm | raz_: 'apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6' shows 25 2.6 kernel images on sarge |
| 09:00.12 | davi | streuner_, yes |
| 09:00.21 | raz_ | i've download last kernel source on kernel.org and compile it. |
| 09:00.25 | streuner_ | davi: what does BTS say? |
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| 09:00.37 | davi | streuner_, I have not read it |
| 09:00.42 | paulswm | *sigh* |
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| 09:00.51 | tzafrir_laptop | I run on this machine (Sarge) 2.6.10 from kernel.org w/swsusp 2.1.7 . I simply used 'make-kpkg' with the patched kernel.org source tree |
| 09:01.28 | tzafrir_laptop | (make-kpkg is from the package kernel-package) |
| 09:01.44 | davi | streuner_, Neither 2.6.8 (sarge) nor 2.6.10 (unstable) was right |
| 09:02.16 | davi | The image of the TV was no right, and no sound. |
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| 09:03.22 | cantona | why i run program under chroot root the program show Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:, i have export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 09:03.40 | raz_ | rofl. sry. |
| 09:03.47 | tzafrir_laptop | cantona, the display is a socket under /tmp |
| 09:04.03 | brosio | cantona, xhost + by the taht start x |
| 09:04.09 | brosio | user |
| 09:04.43 | tzafrir_laptop | cantona, does you X server listen on tcp? If so, you can try to use 127.0.0.1:0 as the DISPLAY |
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| 09:04.50 | davi | cantona, disable -no liste tcp on the scripts which start your X11 |
| 09:04.54 | cantona | brosio: it show access control disabled, clients can connect from any host |
| 09:04.59 | raz_ | where can i found precompiled kernel image plz !? |
| 09:05.26 | Gumby | raz_: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 09:05.26 | davi | cantona, /etc/X11/... What do you use, gdm, kdm, startx ? |
| 09:05.34 | tzafrir_laptop | raz_, precompiled for what exactly? |
| 09:05.39 | cantona | davi: gdm |
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| 09:06.03 | tzafrir_laptop | what's wrong with building it on your own? (even though it's a bigger download and takes more disk space) |
| 09:06.31 | davi | cantona, execute find /etc/X11 | xargs grep listen |
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| 09:06.47 | tzafrir_laptop | or maybe this is in /etc/gdm.conf |
| 09:06.57 | tzafrir_laptop | in the definition of the X servers |
| 09:06.58 | davi | cantona, and see what option in the files you must set to 'false' |
| 09:07.16 | raz_ | tzafrir_home, somebody have inform me that it will be better for my soundcard to found precompiled kernel-image |
| 09:07.20 | paulswm | raz_: Please don't msg me, I was away for a reason, see /topic re msg-ing people |
| 09:07.31 | davi | cantona -nolisten tcp that is the problem. "xhost +" does not take note of it. |
| 09:07.37 | raz_ | we just spoke together |
| 09:07.40 | raz_ | u left. |
| 09:07.48 | raz_ | sry but if i leave i tell it |
| 09:07.55 | cantona | davi: let me try, i need restart gdm? |
| 09:08.01 | davi | yes |
| 09:08.10 | raz_ | in future i dont spam you paulswm sry. |
| 09:08.11 | davi | set to 'false' and restart it |
| 09:08.13 | davi | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.22 | paulswm | raz_: Is OK, no harm done :) |
| 09:08.32 | raz_ | :) |
| 09:08.39 | davi | cantona, false or true I do not remember |
| 09:08.40 | davi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:09.17 | cantona | davi: etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc:exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp |
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| 09:09.39 | tzafrir_laptop | yes, but does gdm use it? |
| 09:09.42 | xk | how do I change my keyboard mapping from en_GB/UK to... well... to US? |
| 09:09.42 | davi | cantona, maybe there will be serveral files which you have to change |
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| 09:10.09 | raz_ | tzafrir_home, i need precompiled kernel to make myaudigy soundcard working. |
| 09:10.13 | tzafrir_laptop | startx uses it explicitly, IIRC. So gdm will have to use it explicitly |
| 09:10.17 | paulswm | raz_: I think that streuner_ 's idea was to get install a debian official kernel so that you could copy the ALSA config section from the debian kernel's config file into your own. |
| 09:10.36 | davi | tzafrir_home, cantona, some are used by gdm, others by startx others by kdm. All depend on the method you use to start the X11 |
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| 09:11.02 | raz_ | okay i see . |
| 09:11.12 | xk | there we go. |
| 09:11.22 | tzafrir_laptop | davi, gdm takes X server parameters from a section in /etc/gdm.conf |
| 09:11.37 | paulswm | raz_: I *think*, anyway, don't ask *me* which parts to copy, I don't know :) |
| 09:11.57 | davi | cantona, so you should check that file too /etc/gdm.conf |
| 09:12.12 | davi | thanks tzafrir_home |
| 09:12.41 | tzafrir_laptop | A faster way to get only the config file is to get the source of the kernel-image package (it is only 80kb or so) and look under the config/ subdirectory |
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| 09:12.47 | Delicates | is there a way to trace a kernel module? |
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| 09:13.18 | davi | cantona /etc/gdm/gdm.conf |
| 09:13.35 | tzafrir_laptop | Delicates, kprint-s ? |
| 09:13.56 | FlimFlamMan | i set up and ran amanda for the first time on a new debian sarge system, and it locked up the server, or appeared to, at least. my ssh logins froze up, wouldn't respond to pings, had to yank the power cord to restart. any ideas how i might track down the problem? |
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| 09:14.42 | raz_ | lol paulswm : ) its ok. i'll never disturb you :) |
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| 09:14.57 | tzafrir_laptop | FlimFlamMan, froze? Maybe something in the IP settings has changed? Did you try local login? |
| 09:15.28 | tzafrir_laptop | anyway, anybody here knows where amavisd-new sends its logs to? |
| 09:15.29 | cantona | davi: ok set DisallowTCP=true? |
| 09:15.43 | jetscreamer | not in /var/log ? |
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| 09:16.09 | paulswm | raz_: I don't mind about being disturbed, I can't help you with sound, is all, I've never bothered to set it up on my own boxes :) |
| 09:16.19 | davi | cantona, ok |
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| 09:16.28 | tzafrir_laptop | jetscreamer, there's no /var/log/amavisd (and this is a daemon running as non-root) , and not in daemon.log, messages |
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| 09:16.37 | FlimFlamMan | tzafrir_home, i didn't have keybm/mon connected ... don't think anything changed in the ip settings |
| 09:16.48 | jetscreamer | i'll take that as a yes |
| 09:16.49 | Petererke | im using qmail and i want to remove exim but packages depend on exim, how should i remove exim ? |
| 09:16.51 | raz_ | i am a marsian user with a marsian computer, and a marsian debian :p.. |
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| 09:17.03 | cdc | streuner_, i am still unable to set up exim |
| 09:17.10 | cdc | kindly help me streuner_ |
| 09:17.35 | jetscreamer | when i removed exim4 and reinstalled exim it wouldn't do anything.. i put exim4 back eventually |
| 09:17.47 | underdog | guys, if I plug a mouse on a usb port, how can I make X work with it automaticlly? |
| 09:18.06 | jetscreamer | it should |
| 09:18.08 | streuner_ | underdog: /msg dpkg usbmouse |
| 09:18.25 | cdc | jetscreamer, you want me to use something else |
| 09:18.41 | jetscreamer | cdc, i just related my experience |
| 09:19.00 | jetscreamer | what mta did you have before |
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| 09:19.21 | cdc | jetscreamer,this is the first time i am setting up |
| 09:19.28 | jetscreamer | is this woody or sarge |
| 09:19.33 | cdc | Sarge |
| 09:19.42 | jetscreamer | is it exim or exim4 |
| 09:19.49 | jetscreamer | exim4 is the sarge default |
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| 09:20.11 | cdc | when i say exim4 |
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| 09:20.32 | jetscreamer | when you say exim4 i don't hear you |
| 09:20.36 | cdc | it says error in line 6 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated but i didnt modify that file at all |
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| 09:21.29 | raz_ | my apt-cache list is not able to found me the kernel-image-2.6.10 package.... how can i resolv the problm ? |
| 09:21.49 | cdc | DEBCONFminimaldnsDEBCONF |
| 09:21.55 | cdc | this is line 6 DEBCONFminimaldnsDEBCON |
| 09:22.00 | cdc | thats it |
| 09:22.05 | jetscreamer | did you try dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config? |
| 09:22.06 | cdc | i dont know what it means |
| 09:22.09 | raz_ | kernel-image-2.6-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 <- or is it this ? |
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| 09:22.30 | cantona | davi: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0" same.. |
| 09:22.40 | xk | Linux gearbox 2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 #1 Fri Jan 28 04:54:33 CET 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 09:23.04 | raz_ | k as ? |
| 09:23.06 | jetscreamer | raz_: is that what |
| 09:23.16 | jetscreamer | oh nm |
| 09:23.45 | cdc | jetscreamer, now i get the setup of exim4 but which one should i select |
| 09:23.53 | raz_ | jetscreamer, the 2.6 standar kernel-image |
| 09:24.06 | jetscreamer | raz_: for what proc |
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| 09:24.14 | raz_ | celeron 850 |
| 09:24.29 | jetscreamer | cdc what do they say? no don't tell me, pick the one that applies to you... probably local only. |
| 09:24.31 | raz_ | no a slot celeron |
| 09:24.39 | jetscreamer | raz 686 should be you |
| 09:24.44 | raz_ | ok mate. |
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| 09:24.50 | cdc | jetscreamer, could you help me with that ? it gives me some options |
| 09:24.50 | jetscreamer | not the smp one eh |
| 09:24.57 | jetscreamer | with what, cdc |
| 09:25.02 | galois | is courier-maildrop any good? |
| 09:25.09 | raz_ | ok |
| 09:25.26 | raz_ | it is a 2.6.8 kernel-image |
| 09:25.35 | xk | paulswm: does that still work for 2.6.x? |
| 09:25.39 | raz_ | i ve set it.. i reboot... to c if the sound work : ) |
| 09:25.51 | cdc | jetscreamer, my requirement is i need to send email to an other email account like gmail (POP/SMTP) etc... |
| 09:25.57 | cdc | so which one should i select |
| 09:26.03 | xk | paulswm: I tried laptop-mode-tools but it doesn't work as I thought, heh. |
| 09:26.08 | paulswm | xk: Yes. |
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| 09:26.18 | jetscreamer | relay... it should be explained what each does.. did you read them all? |
| 09:26.30 | jetscreamer | i 'think'its relay |
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| 09:26.54 | jetscreamer | do you have an FQDN, cdc? |
| 09:26.58 | paulswm | xk: Except that it won't work on drives with mounted ext3 partitions, because ext3 bypasses the kernel flush |
| 09:27.13 | xk | paulswm: even if commit is set to... 86400 or so? |
| 09:27.17 | jetscreamer | damn how long does it take to compile gnome |
| 09:27.18 | cdc | what is FQDN ? |
| 09:27.27 | jetscreamer | fully qualified domain name |
| 09:27.28 | cdc | i have a static ip |
| 09:27.41 | jetscreamer | got a domain? |
| 09:27.46 | paulswm | xk: I have heard that it'll work if you mount the partition noatime |
| 09:28.04 | cdc | no jetscreamer this is a php based project which i am currently running it from localhost |
| 09:28.10 | xk | hrm... |
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| 09:28.39 | jetscreamer | well iirc the options are explained... i think you want relay only, but i'm not certain |
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| 09:28.57 | Delicates | tzafrir_laptop: whereabouts is this kprint-s? |
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| 09:29.15 | jetscreamer | printk? |
| 09:29.19 | paulswm | xk: But for my main box with 7 drives all I am doing really is reducing the MTBF and scaring myself at the same time :) |
| 09:29.26 | xk | hehehe |
| 09:29.42 | raz_ | well. no sound avalaible, and im working the precompiled kernel. |
| 09:29.45 | Delicates | jetscreamer: something to trace a kernel module |
| 09:29.53 | jetscreamer | !alsa-bork |
| 09:29.54 | dpkg | i guess alsa-bork is modprobe snd-<soundcard-module> ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss, and maybe apt-get install gnome-alsamixer or alsamixergui |
| 09:29.55 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 09:29.59 | xk | noflushd depends on ed? |
| 09:30.08 | jetscreamer | how the hell do you see msg's from dpkg in irssi |
| 09:30.13 | jetscreamer | or any msg |
| 09:30.25 | paulswm | xk: It sounds too much like the click that comes with the dreaded "IDE Bus Reset" |
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| 09:31.09 | aum | hi - got a prehistoric p100 box with debian installed, 2.4.17 kernel - boots fine with 32MB EDO RAM installed, but kernel-panics on init with 256MB SDRAM installed - any ideas? |
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| 09:31.27 | underdog | aum run memtest |
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| 09:31.29 | raz_ | memtest |
| 09:31.33 | raz_ | : ) |
| 09:31.35 | xk | aum: it's a box that can accept boht edo and sdram? |
| 09:31.41 | underdog | eheh great minds think alike :) |
| 09:31.44 | jetscreamer | memtest86+ |
| 09:31.55 | raz_ | u cant install sdram on a edo bus. |
| 09:32.07 | aum | xk: i'm not trying edo and sd at same time |
| 09:32.08 | jetscreamer | ultimatebootcd or sysrescd has memtest on it iirc |
| 09:32.08 | raz_ | its physicaly impossible. |
| 09:32.08 | xk | raz_: the older pentium 1 motherboards have both edo and sdram |
| 09:32.14 | aum | but thx - i'll try memtest86 |
| 09:32.15 | raz_ | ok |
| 09:32.21 | xk | raz_: I've installed edo + sdram on a system - it worked. |
| 09:32.32 | raz_ | fine! never seen it :) |
| 09:32.45 | xk | my 486 has 30pin + 72pin ram |
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| 09:32.59 | cdc | jetscreamer, i ve selected smarthost with SMTP option now in one place its asking me this "Please enter here the networks of local machines for which you accept to relay this mail" |
| 09:33.04 | cdc | what should i enter |
| 09:33.14 | jetscreamer | my 8088 has 2mb intel aboveboard baby! |
| 09:33.28 | cdc | my mail address is cdc@iqara.net and this is the recipient address |
| 09:33.43 | jetscreamer | cdc you didn't read what it says |
| 09:33.51 | jetscreamer | in the " " |
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| 09:34.15 | jetscreamer | i think you selected it to BE a relay |
| 09:34.36 | cdc | jetscreamer, i selected SMTP with Smarthost |
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| 09:35.03 | jetscreamer | well what does it say inside the " "'s |
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| 09:35.09 | cdc | mail sent via Smarthost;recieved via SMTP or fetchmail |
| 09:35.15 | cdc | this is what i ve selected |
| 09:35.17 | jetscreamer | in the " " |
| 09:35.23 | jetscreamer | what does it say inside the " "'s |
| 09:35.32 | jetscreamer | what you pasted in here |
| 09:35.35 | jetscreamer | or typed |
| 09:35.42 | jetscreamer | in the " " |
| 09:35.46 | bogon | deLta is onjoin spamming |
| 09:35.47 | cdc | can i enter iqara.net |
| 09:35.50 | cdc | is that possible? |
| 09:35.54 | cdc | is it right? |
| 09:35.55 | jetscreamer | what does it say inside the " "'s |
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| 09:36.14 | cdc | oh it says local machines |
| 09:36.21 | jetscreamer | !win cdc |
| 09:36.22 | dpkg | Congratulations, cdc! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 09:36.35 | jetscreamer | lol how appropriate |
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| 09:37.16 | karamelos | installing a package like gnome-office, also installs planner. how can I tell apt-get to install gnome-office without even downloading the planner debian package? |
| 09:37.31 | jetscreamer | you should probably use postfix+spamassassin, but i know nothing |
| 09:37.51 | jetscreamer | i don't use my local mta |
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| 09:38.04 | cdc | jetscreamer, what do i do |
| 09:38.07 | cdc | how do i test |
| 09:38.09 | cdc | my project |
| 09:38.13 | jetscreamer | no idea |
| 09:38.14 | cdc | is there any other option |
| 09:38.30 | cdc | for sending mail should i need exim to run |
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| 09:38.57 | jetscreamer | if there's no local machines, just hit enter i guess and maybe there's another question eh... if you did the wrong one this time, do it again |
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| 09:39.55 | SiliconViper | karamelos, gnome-office is a metapackage, is it not? It exists to depend on planner, evolution, and such, yes? |
| 09:40.07 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 09:40.14 | karamelos | yes |
| 09:40.24 | tes1 | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/SommaireAide?action=diff can someone clean this page from the wiki ? |
| 09:40.28 | flexy | debian stable, cyrus imap daemon, can't login with cyradmin, or imtest, bad login, user id not found... google doesn't help. Do you? :) |
| 09:40.42 | SiliconViper | So you can't install it without deps, since it doesn't DO anything on it's own. It's only the deps that matter. |
| 09:40.50 | SiliconViper | Well.. you *can*. |
| 09:40.55 | SiliconViper | It's just pointless. |
| 09:40.55 | jetscreamer | correct |
| 09:41.03 | karamelos | SiliconViper, but I want to know if you can somehow tell this metapackage to exclude some of its dependent packages. |
| 09:41.28 | SiliconViper | HA! |
| 09:41.30 | SiliconViper | Have fun. |
| 09:41.44 | tes1 | Recommand is meant for those ... |
| 09:41.51 | xk | hrm hrm hrm |
| 09:42.02 | SiliconViper | See, the way *I* would do it (not the best, likely), is just install gnome-office, then apt-get remove --purge planner |
| 09:42.10 | jetscreamer | what i do is select it in dselect... then the next screen pops up with the dependencies... then i remove the metapackage and anything else i want |
| 09:42.26 | paulswm | karamelos: Why not just apt-cache show gnome-office and install which dependencies you want. |
| 09:42.37 | SiliconViper | See, jetscreamer has a far better way of doing it than I do. |
| 09:42.58 | paulswm | Arrgh, dselect :) |
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| 09:43.04 | jetscreamer | i though of paulswm's method, but i was too lazy to try to explain it |
| 09:43.13 | paulswm | !beer jetscreamer |
| 09:43.15 | jetscreamer | maybe you can do it in craptitude |
| 09:43.32 | SiliconViper | aptitude... |
| 09:43.46 | jetscreamer | i heard they fixed it since it's introduction |
| 09:43.52 | jetscreamer | but i never tried it again |
| 09:44.15 | xk | fear 64bit linux/debian |
| 09:44.40 | paulswm | I'm not building a 64 bit box till next year |
| 09:44.42 | tes1 | jetscreamer: you should , it now has an option to view the changelog before downloading the package , addictive :) |
| 09:44.53 | aidehua | There appear to be a large number of firewall-script managing utilities in Debian. Am I being lazy coming onto #debian and asking someone to recommend me one? |
| 09:44.59 | SiliconViper | jetscreamer, tried wajig? I like i. |
| 09:45.04 | jetscreamer | man iptables |
| 09:45.06 | xk | paulswm: well, I didn't upgrade my box for 6 years... so I had to upgrade eventually ;) |
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| 09:45.14 | xk | upgrade as in replace the CPU/MB. |
| 09:45.16 | SiliconViper | aidehua, I like firestarter. |
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| 09:45.25 | danboid | Hi! |
| 09:45.43 | jetscreamer | man iptables, they give you jobs for knowing that |
| 09:45.50 | aidehua | Up until now, I would write my own iptables script, and use update-rc.d to make it run at boot time. |
| 09:45.54 | karamelos | thx for the different ideas. |
| 09:45.57 | jetscreamer | !hi danboid |
| 09:45.57 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai danboid! |
| 09:45.59 | aidehua | I just wondered if there was a more Debiany way. |
| 09:46.01 | tes1 | aidehua: guarddog (filtering) and guidedog (nat) , the only gleatch is the icq rule which i would do by hand |
| 09:46.09 | danboid | Anyone know of a repository with debs for Looking Glass? |
| 09:46.20 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 09:46.22 | danboid | hi jetscreamer |
| 09:46.26 | paulswm | xk: Yes, mine's 4 years old now. But I have a spare case, so I have an excuse for building another rather than replacing the CPU and mobo, heh |
| 09:46.30 | jetscreamer | firestarter is popular |
| 09:46.48 | karamelos | test1, I've found firestarter has better default rules than guarddog, I check those with Shields Up! site. |
| 09:47.10 | xk | paulswm: I even reused my old case (couldn't use the PSU, no 12V power for CPU) |
| 09:47.10 | jetscreamer | heh gibson |
| 09:47.25 | tes1 | karamelos: by default guarddog block everything ... |
| 09:47.27 | jetscreamer | i like him |
| 09:47.37 | xk | fear my custom modified air intake system |
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| 09:47.53 | xk | fresh air, directly to the cpu. |
| 09:48.01 | karamelos | tes1, well, my default guarddog install didn't pass Shield Up! common port scan. |
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| 09:48.10 | xk | I fucked it up - 15mm off :( |
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| 09:48.12 | jetscreamer | try a 20" box fan in front of an open case |
| 09:48.15 | karamelos | test1, firestarter did. |
| 09:48.17 | danboid | I saw that Sun released a debian (knoppix) based live CD to demo Looking Glass recently, so I KNOW those debs are out there :) |
| 09:48.20 | raz0 | deLta, Stop privmsg'ing me with "free porn"! |
| 09:48.23 | paulswm | xk: You could just screw/duct tape all the components to the wall and have a minimalist design, at least the drives will stay cool :) |
| 09:48.28 | xk | jetscreamer: that's cheating... I need an enclosed box. |
| 09:48.31 | tes1 | karamelos: afaik i was making my own rules for monthes , and i just compared knetfilter, guarddog , ipmenu, gshield ... guarddog (if you avoid icq and http web rule) is perfect |
| 09:48.42 | jetscreamer | raz0: /mode +E |
| 09:49.04 | karamelos | test1, did you check your firewall with Shields UP! |
| 09:49.14 | tes1 | karamelos: but yes firestarter is defenitely the firewall to start with (ala zone alarm) |
| 09:49.21 | jetscreamer | xk: the disadvantage is i have to take my leafblower to it once in a while |
| 09:49.37 | jetscreamer | my box i mean |
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| 09:49.43 | Babbage | How can I efficiently determine which package a file belongs to in Perl. I know I can use dpkg -S but I have about 2500 filenames to process |
| 09:49.56 | xk | jetscreamer: ehhehe. |
| 09:50.11 | raz0 | jetscreamer, What does +E do? |
| 09:50.11 | jetscreamer | does it have to be perl? apt-file |
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| 09:50.30 | tes1 | karamelos: i will do , but i have no rule to accept traffic from the outside , if your portscanner find something it would be a bug in iptables ... |
| 09:50.47 | aidehua | On second thoughts, maybe I don't need a firewall? |
| 09:50.48 | xk | raz0: personal -v+m |
| 09:51.02 | jetscreamer | raz0: stops msgs from unidentified users i think... a freenode staff member told me to do it when i complained about the pron spam |
| 09:51.10 | Babbage | jetscreamer> Hmm |
| 09:51.22 | jetscreamer | no you don't need a firewall... what's your ip again? |
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| 09:51.26 | raz0 | jetscreamer, Okay, I see. Thank you. :-) |
| 09:51.32 | paulswm | Heh |
| 09:51.59 | karamelos | tes1, iptables was ok, after failing the port scan and atempting to set some ports as stealth I remove guarddog, then installed firestarter, and all my common ports were reported in stealth mode. |
| 09:52.13 | tes1 | aidehua: you can try firestarter and guarddog , both are pretty fun to use (and no i am not taht much a geek , their gui are great) |
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| 09:52.34 | paulswm | aidehua: I guess you don't need a firewall if you deny all services to everyone except localhost and tie apache down good and tight |
| 09:52.39 | jetscreamer | ohhhhh |
| 09:52.43 | jetscreamer | shorewall |
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| 09:53.35 | zxccv | http://www.tcpsecurity.com |
| 09:53.36 | paulswm | aidehua: But I like firewalls becasue I like to sleep at night :) |
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| 09:53.41 | jetscreamer | jeezus gnome is still compiling |
| 09:53.47 | karamelos | paulswm, you will need a firewall if you want to use bitorrent. |
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| 09:54.04 | jetscreamer | and i'm doing it for the hell of it before anybody says "why are you compiling" |
| 09:54.14 | tes1 | well fam/portmapper open on every interface ... so does samba in some setups (i did not check if debian one was safe in default install yet) |
| 09:54.20 | paulswm | karamelos: Well yes, becuase then you are not restricing to localhost |
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| 09:55.14 | jetscreamer | if you just want a quickie, lokkit is good on high |
| 09:55.15 | tes1 | paulswm: however it is safer to put your server to sleep too ... |
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| 09:56.03 | trogger | !ops deLta is a spambot |
| 09:56.04 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: deLta is a spambot |
| 09:56.07 | helix | bah |
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| 09:56.18 | helix | thanks trogger |
| 09:56.24 | trogger | helix: np |
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| 09:56.50 | tes1 | hum what is 8086 udp port scan ? i had 120000 of those in two days ... |
| 09:57.39 | jetscreamer | looking for a mathco? i dunno |
| 09:57.44 | paulswm | tes1: My router runs the firewall, all my boxes stay happily awake :) |
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| 09:58.13 | karamelos | is there an apt-get extension to set a to-be-removed package to also remove its "removable" dependencies automatically? |
| 09:58.25 | trogger | karamelos: if only. |
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| 09:59.34 | praha1 | aptitude at least does it automatically (you can tag a dependency from amnual to automatic with "M") |
| 09:59.54 | praha1 | duhhh Dr_Henk please don't use root account |
| 10:00.06 | trogger | tes1: have you checked the IANA ports list, just in case it is something useful? |
| 10:00.08 | Babbage | jetscreamer> Nope, apt-file still only allows one pattern per invocation |
| 10:00.37 | karamelos | praha1, I'll try it right now removing evolution and evolution-data-files. |
| 10:00.46 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 10:01.12 | jetscreamer | evolution has 50billion dependencies |
| 10:01.25 | jetscreamer | you should never have let it get in :) |
| 10:01.27 | praha1 | trogger : no as it suddendly appeared 2 days ago ... before i add around 5000 netbios-ssn per day , now 8086 have replaced them |
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| 10:01.51 | trogger | praha1: what a nuisance for you! |
| 10:01.53 | praha1 | but i got *200 of them (maybe a p2p thinggy ?) |
| 10:02.10 | karamelos | jetscreamer, there should be some way to automatically uninstall the dependencies only evolution needs, when removing evolution. |
| 10:02.17 | galois | what is postfix looking for when it trys to open aliases.db and how do I stop it doing so? |
| 10:02.19 | jetscreamer | i really think there is a port for the math co-processor, but i'm not saying it's port 8086 |
| 10:02.39 | xk | ;) |
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| 10:03.26 | Babbage | galois> Just run "newaliases" |
| 10:03.40 | jetscreamer | so what is the well known service that usually runs on 8086 or whatever |
| 10:03.46 | paulswm | I think that the scan is prolly looking for MS IIS on 8086 |
| 10:04.16 | Babbage | galois> Also, if you have no entry for "root" in /etc/aliases, you should put one in. |
| 10:04.16 | jetscreamer | there's a list of well known service's ports somewhere |
| 10:04.32 | trogger | jetscreamer: IANA ports. first hit in google? |
| 10:04.38 | paulswm | jetscreamer: you mean /etc/services? |
| 10:04.38 | jetscreamer | no idea |
| 10:04.39 | praha1 | karamelos: do you use aptitude ? it does a pretty googd job at it , else deborphan and defoster |
| 10:04.44 | Babbage | jetscreamer: Google searches generally will tell you |
| 10:04.48 | jetscreamer | paulswm: no |
| 10:04.52 | jetscreamer | Babbage: yeah |
| 10:05.06 | Babbage | jetscreamer: Often scans are for bot ports and back doors, which will not appear in WKS lists |
| 10:05.17 | karamelos | praha1, I use deborphan but it suggests needed files sometimes. |
| 10:05.22 | jetscreamer | just a thought, could lok and see |
| 10:05.26 | jetscreamer | look |
| 10:05.38 | jetscreamer | me, i hope mine's shut |
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| 10:06.10 | praha1 | it is neither in debian /etc/servces nor IANA , i had begun searching google (it is udp 8086). |
| 10:06.11 | jetscreamer | well shit |
| 10:06.18 | galois | Babbage: as root or user |
| 10:06.25 | jetscreamer | erroredotu |
| 10:06.34 | jetscreamer | errored out |
| 10:07.08 | paulswm | The 8086 thingy could be this, seeing as there were so many hits on praha1's box: http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=DDOS%5FBOXED%2ET |
| 10:07.38 | paulswm | Forget it |
| 10:07.47 | paulswm | It's connecting to specific wen sites |
| 10:07.50 | paulswm | web |
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| 10:10.41 | findme | i have a winxp printer connected via usb , i want to print through linux what are my options? |
| 10:11.06 | jak | findme: i would recommend to use cups |
| 10:11.25 | findme | jak, ok |
| 10:11.26 | jak | findme: you will also need a kernel module called usblp |
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| 10:11.32 | jak | (to print via usb) |
| 10:11.52 | findme | jak, i see thanks. |
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| 10:12.25 | galois | Babbage: thank you |
| 10:12.33 | jak | with cups its fairly easy to set up the printer, you can find a web interface on localhost:65333 or something like that... |
| 10:12.59 | jak | does anybody know how to shrink an ext3 partition? |
| 10:13.37 | xk | jak: resize2fs |
| 10:13.49 | trogger | jak: partition magic can do it safely as well. |
| 10:14.04 | xk | fdisk it first, delete, readd as smaller partition, resize2fs. |
| 10:14.09 | Zeit|awy | localhost:631 is normally cups |
| 10:14.21 | jak | Zeit|awy: ok, i did not remember :) |
| 10:14.36 | jak | 6 was right, anyway ... smile |
| 10:14.43 | Zeit|awy | ^^ |
| 10:15.02 | xk | jak: yeah but above the 1-1024 range, heh. |
| 10:15.03 | Zeit|awy | had to deal with it yesterday.. ;) |
| 10:15.06 | jak | xk: resize2fs after repartitioning it? |
| 10:15.09 | xk | jak: yes. |
| 10:15.14 | praha1 | well if you use cups web interface , install cupsomatic-ppd , else you will have only the 5 default cups drivers |
| 10:15.18 | jak | oki, ill give it a try |
| 10:15.25 | xk | I've done it several times. |
| 10:15.32 | xk | no problems. |
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| 10:15.43 | xk | it will tell you to e2fsck it. |
| 10:15.43 | praha1 | for a local printer , printconf/cups/foomatic should set it up automagically |
| 10:15.53 | jak | xk: ah, resize2fs does not really resize it, but makes sure that there is no data lost? |
| 10:15.59 | Zeit|awy | anyone here tried iSCSI in target mode? |
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| 10:16.07 | xk | jak: it does resize it. |
| 10:16.25 | xk | well... it moves the data to make sure the partition is the size that is told by the partition table. |
| 10:16.43 | xk | it's not an integrated solution |
| 10:16.49 | xk | but it's simple. |
| 10:16.50 | jak | ok. i understand |
| 10:17.05 | jak | i just have to wait until my backup is finished :) |
| 10:17.08 | xk | ;) |
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| 10:18.11 | jak | another question: smbmount tells me that there are io errors when i try to do something... any expieriences? |
| 10:18.22 | praha1 | paulswm: thanks i guess it was a ddos attempt , in the middle of a 40000 8086 i add one ip senindg around 20000 packets with faked dest ip on different ports (the funny thing is i have no lan and my box is not a dual xeon, this guy is loosing his time :) |
| 10:19.19 | praha1 | jak: connectiong to a w2k pc ? |
| 10:19.23 | aidehua | Is it /etc/rcS.d/S40networking that brings up the network interfaces on my Debian box? |
| 10:19.43 | praha1 | aidehua: yes |
| 10:20.13 | praha1 | rcS scripts setup mounts, net interfaces, time and a few other things |
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| 10:20.18 | tzafrir_laptop | Is there any way to prevent postfix to set SMTP from to $myorigin if the message already has a valid from? |
| 10:20.46 | thesaboteur | tzafrir_laptop: try #postfix maybe? |
| 10:20.49 | Zeit|awy | #postfix.. |
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| 10:21.07 | jak | praha1: connecting to any samba location |
| 10:21.26 | tzafrir_laptop | hmm, I figure that this is a place for exim-ers. |
| 10:21.46 | aidehua | I guess I should run my firewall script directly after networking comes up. |
| 10:22.25 | Noldo | aidehua: can't you do it just before? |
| 10:22.42 | jethro | hi there |
| 10:23.03 | xk | Noldo: it's windows mentality :) |
| 10:23.17 | xk | what aidehua wants |
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| 10:23.49 | jetscreamer | !info epiphany |
| 10:23.51 | xk | aidehua: it should be possible once the iptables stuff is loaded. doesn't matter if the network is up or down. |
| 10:23.51 | dpkg | epiphany: (Clone of BoulderDash Game), section games, is optional. Version: 0.5.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 577 kB, Installed size: 2264 kB |
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| 10:24.06 | xk | boulderdash :) |
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| 10:24.15 | xk | I want the amiga version! I loved playing that |
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| 10:25.16 | praha1 | jak: whihc kernel verison then (<2.4.20 and <2.6.7 had problems with big transfers if the sendfile=no was not in smb.conf) |
| 10:25.19 | aidehua | Windows mentality? What aidehua wants? |
| 10:25.48 | Noldo | aidehua: make the iptables script run S39 it will work fine |
| 10:25.49 | xk | aidehua: I was just poking fun at you thinking that way. |
| 10:26.01 | jak | praha1: kernel version 2.6.9 self compiled, smbclient works well, there are probelms when using smbmount only... |
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| 10:26.53 | jak | anzbodz knows how to stop mz ibm x40 from beeping and how to set its keymap in console-mode? |
| 10:26.57 | jak | ai! |
| 10:26.58 | aidehua | Right :) I see that the iptables maintainer recommends putting scripts in /etc/network to, presumably, execute at the same time the interface comes up and down. Much nicer :) http://lists.debian.org/debian-firewall/2002/05/msg00059.html |
| 10:27.00 | cw666 | can anyone confirm a security bug reported that doesn't appear on the web-page is just a matter of time? |
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| 10:27.17 | praha1 | aidehua: when a net interface get up its /etc/network/if-up.d and /etc/ppp/ip-up.d scripts are started (firewalls script are inside and are then activated at this time. |
| 10:27.19 | cw666 | umm, i mean --- i reported a bug but don't see it --- i take it will appear soon? |
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| 10:27.54 | xk | jak: keymap? dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
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| 10:28.31 | jak | xk: thx |
| 10:28.53 | praha1 | Piggeldi: you should not connect as root, irc is unsafe |
| 10:29.02 | xk | jak: beeping? hrm... setterm maybe? (-blength?) |
| 10:29.25 | xk | praha1: they'll never learn |
| 10:30.02 | praha1 | xk: there are new debian users everyday, let s them enjoy safe practices :) |
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| 10:31.33 | trogger | jak: in the short term, hit the mute button :) |
| 10:32.07 | jak | trogger: :) |
| 10:32.12 | paulswm | praha1: Windows mentality, always be administrator, there are also a lot of questions like "how do I log on to X as root?" |
| 10:32.15 | jak | ok, my mistake... |
| 10:32.30 | jak | how to disable this nasty bell without hitting the mute button? |
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| 10:33.16 | trogger | jak: if it helps, it is equivalent to removing the "bell" sound |
| 10:33.34 | trogger | (jak: which thus isn't specific to thinkpads) |
| 10:34.14 | jak | trogger: i know... set bell-style none ive read somewhere.... but it does nothing... |
| 10:34.39 | jak | isit possible to set its own keymap like xmodmap in x in console mode? |
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| 10:35.21 | TBBle | console-utils I think has the bits you want. |
| 10:35.24 | SiliconViper | Herm... anybody know anything about Debian + Ricer4? |
| 10:36.05 | zamolxes | SiliconViper: ricers do gentoo afair |
| 10:36.13 | praha1 | paulswm: i won't throw them the stones, i discovered unix around 20, it was pretty awkward at first ... it raise the existencial dilemma of why would oen want to be powerless on his own computer :-> |
| 10:36.31 | SiliconViper | zamolxes, yes, I've run Gentoo. I prefer Debian, because it makes me happy in the pants. |
| 10:36.49 | SiliconViper | I am curious about making Debian do Ricer4. |
| 10:36.56 | SiliconViper | Something new to try. |
| 10:37.26 | paulswm | praha1: My background is pre-PC mainframe, so I had the opposite view :) |
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| 10:38.36 | Babbage | jak> In gnome-terminal there is a profile setting. Also "man xset" |
| 10:38.57 | Babbage | jak> There also used to be a Terminal-Bell mini-HOWTO |
| 10:39.00 | paulswm | praha1: I agree with you about educating, but it is sometimes hard. The attitude is often "it's my computer, so MYOB and tell me how to login to X as root" |
| 10:39.04 | praha1 | http://howtos.linux.com/howtos/Visual-Bell.shtml |
| 10:39.04 | Babbage | Sorry, that's Visual-Bell |
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| 10:40.02 | praha1 | i don't think i have used half of what s inside but it seems pretty good |
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| 10:41.17 | unamaus | hi |
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| 10:41.32 | unamaus | i have a question i'm hoping someone can answer |
| 10:41.41 | Babbage | !asking |
| 10:41.41 | dpkg | if you have a question, don't ask "does anybody know about foo", don't ask if you can ask it... just ask it.. if somebody knows, they'll answer :) Just don't repeat your question |
| 10:41.55 | unamaus | sorry |
| 10:42.02 | Babbage | no prob, just go ahead |
| 10:42.24 | unamaus | does ubuntu support dual processing? |
| 10:42.32 | trogger | yes |
| 10:42.33 | TBBle | Your girlfriend will return many times. You'll never discover /etc/network/if-*.d again. |
| 10:42.39 | Babbage | SMP (etc.) relies only on the kernel. |
| 10:42.42 | trogger | TBBle: heh |
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| 10:42.57 | unamaus | why does it not show in the system monitor? |
| 10:43.04 | Babbage | TBBle> On the contrary, if he shows no interest, his girlfriend may not return again :( |
| 10:43.22 | Babbage | unamaus> What system monitor? |
| 10:43.22 | aidehua | TBBle: actually rolling on the floor... rotfl |
| 10:43.46 | unamaus | applications/system monitor |
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| 10:44.46 | TBBle | If his girlfriend shows signs of not returning, he can offer to show her the mysteries of /etc/network/if-*.d/, gets 'em every time. |
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| 10:46.17 | JERICO | wenas |
| 10:46.51 | Babbage | unamaus> You're right. It doesn't. "top" does though. It shows the % of the total CPU capacity in use (i.e. one CPU of two used = 50%). The "system monitor applet" on the taskbar also understand multiple CPUs |
| 10:47.11 | Babbage | unamaus> See also "cat /proc/cpuinfo" |
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| 10:47.48 | dark | http://www.tcpsecurity.com/ |
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| 10:48.46 | unamaus | thanks babbage |
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| 10:49.29 | michael__ | how do i install the debian kernel 2.6.7? apt-get says that there no kernel-source-2.6.7 package |
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| 10:50.10 | unamaus | its pretty obvious i am a windows user |
| 10:50.12 | unamaus | hehe |
| 10:50.20 | flexy | I can't get cyrus-imapd working, is there another imapd that allows email users, that does not have login shell? (For debian stable) |
| 10:50.25 | unamaus | chat which is why i ask the obvious questions |
| 10:50.29 | unamaus | err sorry |
| 10:50.32 | cmot | Yo!Anybody knows how to jump the mouse pointer between two displays in a xinerama configuration? |
| 10:50.33 | unamaus | mud player too |
| 10:50.33 | unamaus | hehe |
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| 10:50.44 | cmot | I found http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/daveantl/dualmouse.c, but that does only work on non-xinerama. |
| 10:51.08 | unamaus | you know that's another thing i need to know how to do |
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| 10:51.20 | unamaus | i need to get my dual monitors to work |
| 10:51.32 | unamaus | right now they only do the same thing, which is annoying |
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| 10:52.11 | unamaus | i use an ati radeon 9800 pro and i don't know what or how to work fglrx config |
| 10:52.43 | Babbage | unamaus> Not sure how you do that. X on Linux has supported multiple monitors since about 1995, but it always used to require a separate video card for each monitor. These days you can typically use the LCD screen on a monitor and an external monitor, but I don;t know how you get it working. |
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| 10:53.46 | cmot | Or, alternatively, how can I programmatically pan the 'view' on a screen which really has a bigger virtual size? |
| 10:53.59 | KemuriOrg | hi, having a hardtime looking up/finding wx-config in Sarge, have most wx* package installed... |
| 10:54.00 | cmot | (If anybody can understand what I'm saying...) |
| 10:54.02 | Babbage | unamaus> Try http://www.tldp.org/ |
| 10:54.11 | unamaus | i'm may be forced to go back to xp heh :( |
| 10:54.27 | cmot | KemuriOrg: packages.debian.org allows you to search which package a file is in. |
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| 10:54.56 | Babbage | cmot> Understand question, just don't know the answer :) |
| 10:54.57 | KemuriOrg | cmot: yeah, can't find it there |
| 10:55.16 | tommi^ | Hi.. This would be nice question when installing Debian: "Would like to have encrypted home directories?" :) |
| 10:55.21 | praha1 | Babbage: that s basically the same (except for the first nv/ati dual head crads) , they have two framebuffers and act liek two cards (you cna merge the framebuffers as we can between two cards |
| 10:55.21 | TBBle | If wx-config is a thing that tells you what libraries you need to link against, like ssl-config, then it's prolly in the -dev package. |
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| 10:55.36 | michael__ | how can i downgrade my kernel from 2.6.8 to 2.6.7 ? |
| 10:55.43 | Babbage | tommi^> You're right. Why don't you send them a patch? |
| 10:56.04 | praha1 | cmot: i don't follow you , on xinerama display you have nothing to setup to use the mouse on the second display |
| 10:56.11 | Babbage | michael> YTou should be able to just do "apt-get install kernel-image-2,6,7" |
| 10:56.13 | KemuriOrg | ok, soz, was in the libwxgtk2.5-dev |
| 10:56.15 | tommi^ | Babbage, Yes, I should. Let me start working on it right away.. |
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| 10:56.24 | KemuriOrg | thanks |
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| 10:56.30 | tommi^ | Babbage, Oh well, maybe in three years. I'm not a programmer, yet. |
| 10:56.34 | reNegad3 | I was wondering how to enable routing between 2 interfaces on different networks. I have quagga running is there anything else involved?? |
| 10:56.56 | cmot | praha1: scenario: screen 1 is xawtv running on full screen, I want to work on screen 2 |
| 10:56.57 | michael__ | Babbage: but the only kernel image i can install is 2.6.8, there doesnt seem to be any lower ones available |
| 10:57.47 | praha1 | cmot: what goes wrong ? |
| 10:57.47 | cmot | praha1: now, because xawtv on full screen switches the display to reduced resolution, when I just move the mouse to the other screen, the view moves to the right, but the xawtv picture is in the middle of the screen... |
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| 10:58.40 | Babbage | reNegad3> You don't need quagga unless you have dynamically changing routes. Just see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/nag/node27.html |
| 10:58.42 | cmot | So I either need to 'jump' the mouse out of the screen, or to somehow move the view on the virtual display around without the mouse being in that window. |
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| 10:59.34 | praha1 | cmot: try using zapping , i had problems with some old applications fullscreen hacks |
| 10:59.35 | Babbage | michael> True. The next best plan is to install kernel-package and then build one using make-kpg |
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| 11:00.14 | praha1 | cmot: or mplayer, if you have the same problems than with xawtv which window manager do you use ? (not all are xinerama bugfree) |
| 11:00.22 | michael__ | Babbage: well, that is the way i ususally do. But still kernel-source-2.6.8 is the only 2.6 version available |
| 11:00.36 | cmot | praha1: kwin/unstable |
| 11:00.58 | unamaus | ok now here's something interesting |
| 11:01.18 | unamaus | how do i identify after inputting cat /proc/cpuinfo that my system uses 2 xeons? |
| 11:01.18 | cmot | praha1: I think the xinerama is all basically working as it should - it's just an artifarct of one of the displays running at reduced physical resolution on a big virtual screen. |
| 11:01.19 | praha1 | cmot: there are also issue with xv (the overlay xawtv mode) and xinerama , using shm (grabdisplay ) fix some issues (though it uses more cpu) |
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| 11:02.27 | cmot | praha1: will try. |
| 11:02.36 | praha1 | unamaus: you may use cpuid it filter the data |
| 11:02.40 | jak | hello folks... ive just resized my partition and i am now trying to tell fdisk to use 4k blocks, but it asks me something about cylinders... (?) |
| 11:02.46 | Babbage | michael> There's always ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/ |
| 11:03.25 | unamaus | how do i type that as? $ cpuid? |
| 11:03.26 | TBBle | I don't think fdisk picks block sizes, does it? |
| 11:03.41 | praha1 | cmot: i would be interested in your result, i don't have a xinerama setup anymore (lack of monitors :( |
| 11:03.49 | paulswm | jak: that's a function of the filesystem, not the partition |
| 11:04.02 | praha1 | unamaus: it is in the cpuid package |
| 11:04.03 | cmot | praha1: xawtv with grabdisplay gives me no picture at all. |
| 11:04.04 | Babbage | jak> There is the (u)nits option |
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| 11:04.43 | jak | Babbage: ah, thx |
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| 11:05.06 | wohelsy | hello |
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| 11:05.38 | wohelsy | how many CD's do i need to install debian with KDE and some programs ? |
| 11:06.17 | cmot | praha1: zapping doesn't switch physical resolutions when going fullscreen |
| 11:06.21 | simonrvn | just get cd 1, install, install the rest from the net |
| 11:06.31 | cmot | praha1: so I end up with the picture being small in the center of the screen. |
| 11:06.41 | unamaus | prahal: sorry for being such a noob but how to i get that to work |
| 11:06.52 | cmot | praha1: I can manually switch down to the low resolution - and get the same situation as with xawtv. |
| 11:07.20 | TBBle | If you _need_ to do an offline install, I think there's a list of packages for each CD with the CD image, so just find the image that includes the 'kde' package, and take that plus all earlier CDs. No CD dependds on a later CD. |
| 11:08.05 | wohelsy | i don' t know which *.jigdo files to take :( http://non-us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r4-cd/jigdo/i386/ |
| 11:08.13 | praha1 | cmot: well i just tested latest xawtv nd none of the mode works, zapping in grabdisplay is ok for me |
| 11:08.15 | simonrvn | wohelsy: don't /msg me |
| 11:08.20 | wohelsy | ;) ok |
| 11:08.26 | michael__ | Babbage: sorry, but can you tell me where in the ftp tree i can locate the sources, i cant find it. |
| 11:08.26 | simonrvn | ever |
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| 11:09.14 | cmot | praha1: xawtv works just fine for me - I think the problem is not really TV grabbing specific, but purely a problem of getting the low-res view of the big virtual desktop stay in some fixed position |
| 11:09.59 | praha1 | cmot: by center of the screen you mean in between the two monitors displays ? if you still have it withg zapping which window manager do you use ? |
| 11:10.23 | praha1 | unamaus: apt-get install cpuid |
| 11:10.56 | unamaus | thanks got it to work in terminal |
| 11:11.09 | praha1 | unamaus: sorry i did not know at whic point you where in debian usage :/ |
| 11:11.18 | cmot | praha1:no, I mean I want the visible section of the virtual screen on one of the displays must be centered on the virtual screen of that display. |
| 11:11.43 | cmot | praha1: normally, it moves with the mouse (which is, obviously, the right thing to do. But not here...) |
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| 11:11.52 | TBBle | wohelsy: Hmm. Grab a jigdo file, see if it says inside what packages come with that CD? |
| 11:12.09 | unamaus | hey prahal you familiar with scsi drives? they don't seem to show up in Disks |
| 11:12.11 | wohelsy | ok, i'll try |
| 11:12.37 | unamaus | i have 3 other drives in the puter but just won't show |
| 11:12.52 | cmot | praha1: Well, thanks for your ideas, I think this is a case of wating until one of the x gurus are around |
| 11:13.29 | praha1 | cmot: maybe i have a non standard setup but zapping on my box (non xinerema ) goes fullscreenn without changing the resolution (one can set this up in preferences/Video/Fullscreen video mode) |
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| 11:14.14 | cmot | praha1: when I just tried it, zapping went 'fullscreen' without switching the video mode, too. |
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| 11:14.29 | cmot | praha1: but it didn't scale up the picture, so the idea of fullscreen is a bit lost. |
| 11:14.31 | praha1 | cmot: ah if i set it to automatic i got the bug ! it was on 'not change" and worked ok at this setting |
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| 11:16.06 | praha1 | cmot: i suggest you try first with grabdisplay, i am pretty sure xv overlay cannot scale at any ratio and i don't know which one it could :/ |
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| 11:21.32 | praha1 | unamaus: ehm i know lsscsi and sd_mod (the scsi hdd driver), not much beyond ... |
| 11:21.34 | cmot | praha1: Ah, great! |
| 11:21.36 | jak | can one tell fdisk to use Xk-blocks? |
| 11:21.38 | lewis | hey there - could some help me with exim quotas, and let me know what i should be using for 'quota_size_regex' in exim4.conf? I will be asking in #exim too.... |
| 11:22.05 | thesaboteur | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:22.06 | cmot | praha1: zapping in capture mode actually does what I want. |
| 11:22.08 | TBBle | I don't think fdisk picks blocksizes, does it? |
| 11:22.11 | cmot | praha1: thanks a lot! |
| 11:22.37 | praha1 | jak: no, # sectors , blocks are fs things (you define their size with ext2fs) |
| 11:22.46 | unamaus | would that get my scsi drives to show? |
| 11:22.50 | lewis | thesaboteur: i do know what exim is, just having problems with exim quotas, was wondering if someone could tell me what they have for their value of quota_size_regex in their configuration file |
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| 11:22.56 | jak | TBBle: i used resize2fs, and it told me that my new fs is x 4k blocks long... |
| 11:23.07 | kokkoo | hi ive got troubles with fxp part of proftpd... it worked before i added a second nic.. anyone ? |
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| 11:23.30 | praha1 | cmot: thanks marillat (maybe sending him an meila) , zapping has improved a lot in a few weeks |
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| 11:23.44 | jak | praha1: ok, so i have x 4k blocks. is there a way to calculate how many cylinders i need to give to fdisk? |
| 11:23.57 | thesaboteur | lewis: heh I didn't mean for that to go to chat, but I do however get tired of people asking how do I configure X in my MTA when most of the time thats not MY MTA :) |
| 11:24.12 | TBBle | jak: What are you actually trying achieve here? |
| 11:24.19 | praha1 | unamaus: only if the kernel found them , whihc seems your problems (but this is pretty hard to guess) |
| 11:24.22 | thesaboteur | lewis: and my MTA has it's own #MTA :) |
| 11:24.31 | jak | TBBle: i try to resize my ext3 partition (shrink it) |
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| 11:24.59 | TBBle | Ah. So you've resizefs's and now need to apply fdisk to it. |
| 11:25.03 | praha1 | unamaus: does the discs show in dmesg (or /var/log/message the full log) ? |
| 11:25.10 | jak | TBBle: yes, exactly... |
| 11:25.15 | unamaus | actually it found all of em when i was installing and i set them all to ext3 logical xcept for the first one which was primary |
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| 11:25.38 | jak | TBBle: but i do not know how to calculate the number of cylinders, because resize2fs told me something about the length in 4k blocks... |
| 11:25.45 | TBBle | Well, as you were told before, fdisk has a '[u]nits' option to change the units it works it. Make it work in the same units you measure your fs in (from resizefs) and do it that way. |
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| 11:26.17 | jak | TBBle: i did, but that is not possible, because i resized the fs to 20gig and then i would only use 3 gig... |
| 11:26.19 | TBBle | From memory, fdisk works in blocks, cylinders or bytes. |
| 11:26.33 | Kr1x | how to change debcon to curse (currently editor) ?? |
| 11:26.37 | Piggeldi | has anyone experiences with udev? |
| 11:26.38 | praha1 | unamaus: ok so maybe ' dmesg| grep sd ' will show sdb, sdc , sdd |
| 11:26.45 | jak | so the number of 4k blocks which resize2fs gave me seems "to small" |
| 11:26.56 | TBBle | Well, sectors are 512 bytes, so multiply blocks by 8 to get sectors, see if that comes out right. |
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| 11:26.59 | Drevay | hey! |
| 11:27.03 | Drevay | i finally have debian installed |
| 11:27.08 | Drevay | ^^ |
| 11:27.21 | praha1 | aren't block 512 by default ? |
| 11:27.25 | jak | TBBle: .... calculating .. . :) |
| 11:27.31 | Kr1x | how to change debcon to curse (currently editor) ?? |
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| 11:27.44 | unamaus | hmm that doesn't do anything |
| 11:27.45 | Drevay | Debian even auto configured GRUB to have XP happily load as the slave drive :) |
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| 11:27.50 | Drevay | i just have one question right now |
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| 11:28.06 | Kr1x | how to change debcon to curse (currently editor) ?? |
| 11:28.08 | TBBle | Piggeldi: I use udev. Also see /msg dpkg ask |
| 11:28.20 | praha1 | TBBle you are a master ! |
| 11:28.21 | Drevay | how do i make it so that i can auto-mount my windows xp (ntfs) drive (on slave) on boot as read only? |
| 11:28.30 | Drevay | i have lots of music on there, and this hdd is only 20 gigs, so.. |
| 11:28.33 | Drevay | any ideas? |
| 11:28.38 | clusty | whenever I try to install quake2 it says that there are no candidates for installation. Where can I get it from (which source)? |
| 11:28.52 | TBBle | Drevay: man 5 fstab |
| 11:28.56 | praha1 | unamaus: is it a debian kernel or home made ? |
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| 11:29.08 | loocek | hi! I have a problem with my printer(hp920c) + cups. I've installed this printer and everything works fine until I've restarted computer .Now when I type lpinfo -v I get 'usb://HP/DeskJet%20920C?serial=CN24Q1N0TCIS ' instead 'usb:/dev/usb/lp0' |
| 11:29.10 | Drevay | TBBle, no links or anything? |
| 11:29.11 | unamaus | debian |
| 11:29.12 | Drevay | ok. |
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| 11:29.17 | loocek | what is happening? |
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| 11:29.24 | simonrvn | Kr1x: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 11:29.33 | Kr1x | thx! |
| 11:29.36 | simonrvn | Kr1x: set it to low while you're at it |
| 11:29.44 | TBBle | clusty: Check on pacakges.debian.org, it might be in contrib. |
| 11:30.05 | praha1 | unamaus: does 'lsmod |grep sd_mod' output anything ? if no try modprobe sd_mod |
| 11:30.07 | TBBle | Drevay: Well, googling fstab might help, but I'd assumed you'd tried that already. |
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| 11:30.38 | unamaus | ah yes |
| 11:30.45 | unamaus | sd 4 |
| 11:31.00 | unamaus | sd_mod 4 |
| 11:31.13 | unamaus | scsi_mod 115148 4 |
| 11:31.17 | unamaus | so it shows |
| 11:31.18 | loocek | anybody ?? |
| 11:31.21 | loocek | :) |
| 11:31.45 | TBBle | loocek: That wasn't a question. |
| 11:31.48 | praha1 | unamaus: maybe your dmesg is full of noise, grep sd /var/log/message may have usefull data |
| 11:31.53 | Drevay | TBBle, right, sorry, was just wondering if anybody knew the line i could enter into fstab |
| 11:32.07 | praha1 | dmesg is only the last 500 lines of it |
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| 11:32.41 | loocek | TBBle: than what was it?? |
| 11:32.47 | unamaus | oh my lord! |
| 11:32.49 | jak | TBBle: success!!! THANK YOU!! |
| 11:32.57 | jak | puhi!... |
| 11:32.58 | praha1 | Drevay: it should be 'ro' (but afaik linux ntfs only mount as read only if not forced rw) |
| 11:33.00 | unamaus | lots and lots of hda command error |
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| 11:33.18 | TBBle | A greeting and three declaratives. |
| 11:33.25 | TBBle | jak: Excellent. ^_^ |
| 11:33.34 | Drevay | praha1, righto |
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| 11:35.08 | praha1 | unamaus: well that could be dma alerts, it happens with old cdrom/hdd/mb |
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| 11:35.17 | Drevay | brb |
| 11:35.40 | unamaus | whew ok |
| 11:36.01 | praha1 | unamaus: nothing about sda, sdb ... ? |
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| 11:36.36 | unamaus | nope |
| 11:36.54 | unamaus | guess you are right, guess it doesn't show |
| 11:37.08 | unamaus | *sigh* well i can always start from scratch |
| 11:37.19 | darkk | http://www.tcpsecurity.com/ |
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| 11:38.22 | superSSS | Somebody knows where in menuconfig you enable IPV6 support? |
| 11:38.44 | Piggeldi | after updating my kernel from 2.4.20 to 2.6.8 i have a lot of problems with X server. It might be a problem with udev i think. can anyone help? |
| 11:38.44 | praha1 | unamaus: that s strange , 'sd_mod 4' means four utils use the sd driver whihc is the scsi driver for drives ... maybe the module is stuck loading , do you have zomby ? (ps ax, process in Z or D state) |
| 11:39.21 | unamaus | no |
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| 11:39.41 | unamaus | then again i don't know what zomby is |
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| 11:40.04 | unamaus | wish there was a howto for this sort of stuff |
| 11:40.06 | TBBle | Piggeldi: What're the actual problems with loading X? (Check for 'E:' in your XFree86 logs. |
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| 11:40.17 | TBBle | unamaus: I missed the start of this. What's the problem? |
| 11:40.22 | aluno11 | hello |
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| 11:40.32 | unamaus | many problems actually |
| 11:40.32 | shastry | where do i get the floppy image ? |
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| 11:40.34 | shastry | to boot from |
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| 11:40.44 | unamaus | first off scsi drives won't show |
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| 11:41.02 | praha1 | unamaus: zomby per se (Z) is a program that try to stop but did not succeed, (D) is a program that try to do something but get stuck doing it (usually because the kernel did something wrong) |
| 11:41.10 | KillerBunny | Where does debian store it boot log? |
| 11:41.13 | shastry | anybody ? |
| 11:41.15 | Piggeldi | first problem was starting X with my touchpad (i use deb on laptop) |
| 11:41.18 | TBBle | unamaus: Kernel 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 11:41.20 | drac | KillerBunny: dmesg |
| 11:41.32 | unamaus | i think the most recent with smp |
| 11:41.37 | unamaus | i run dual xeons |
| 11:41.39 | KillerBunny | drac: ?? |
| 11:41.40 | shastry | anybody know where i can get the floppy boot image ? |
| 11:41.44 | Piggeldi | this i have fixed temporarily... (using ps/2 mouse) |
| 11:41.44 | TBBle | shastry: It's rescue.img on the Debian mirrors. |
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| 11:42.00 | shastry | i have te deb iso on my hdd |
| 11:42.05 | drac | KillerBunny: that is an command to show bootlog. it can also be found from /var/log. |
| 11:42.15 | KillerBunny | Okey nice thanks. |
| 11:42.21 | Piggeldi | but now after X (kdm) starts, i can't login as user |
| 11:42.23 | shastry | TBBle, with that, i can install debian from an iso on the harddisk ? |
| 11:42.27 | TBBle | Piggeldi: Oh. Well, tell X about both /dev/misc/psaux and /dev/input/mice in two mouse stanzas, and they shouldboth work. |
| 11:42.35 | unamaus | i have to apologize ahead of time, i'm new to this |
| 11:42.35 | praha1 | unamaus: well i am not a scsi master :( i would try unloading/relaoding all scsi module then ask with the few errors i got from these (and from dmesg//var/log/message if some) |
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| 11:42.43 | TBBle | shastry: I don't know, actually. Probably not, but maybe. |
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| 11:42.52 | TBBle | It'll be a mess of mucking around if you can. |
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| 11:43.07 | TBBle | unamaus: Got udev? |
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| 11:43.13 | unamaus | but that's one of the problems i don't know how to unload or reload scsi modules |
| 11:43.21 | unamaus | apparently not heh |
| 11:43.29 | unamaus | hang on i'll get |
| 11:43.36 | Piggeldi | oh that might be the solution... i tried /dev/mice |
| 11:43.37 | drac | TBBle: Didn't know there was /dev/misc/psaux, are you sure you don't mean /dev/psaux ? |
| 11:43.42 | TBBle | Get a copy of cdrecord, and use -scanbus to make sure the SCSI system can see your disks, firstly. |
| 11:44.05 | TBBle | drac: Depends which one you have. I can't remember which is default anymore, but I thought udev put it in /dev/misc/ |
| 11:44.09 | unamaus | cool i did install that |
| 11:44.09 | praha1 | unamaus: modprone driver to load , modprobe -r driver to unload, hope it helps a bit :-/ |
| 11:44.40 | drac | TBBle: With 2.6 and udev, it's /dev/psaux |
| 11:44.41 | TBBle | Piggeldi: Can't log in? Ouch. What goes wrong? |
| 11:44.49 | TBBle | Ah. I stand corrected. |
| 11:45.06 | shastry | now anyone know anything abt debian install from a floppy and an iso ? |
| 11:45.28 | Piggeldi | don't know... when trying to log in as user on console, i get "dev/null access denied" |
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| 11:46.03 | Penix | it's only ever misc/psaux with devfs |
| 11:46.17 | unamaus | prahal i tried it doesn't seem to work |
| 11:46.21 | TBBle | shastry: You could do it with _two_ floppies (rescue.img + root.img) and then go to the console, mount the iso image (which'll require mouting the containing drive) and point the installer at that, but I can't guarantee that's possible, let alone useful. |
| 11:46.23 | praha1 | Piggeldi: did you had devfsd , purge it then install udev ? |
| 11:46.38 | praha1 | unamaus: it refuse to unload the drivers ? |
| 11:46.46 | unamaus | command not found |
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| 11:47.07 | unamaus | whoa |
| 11:47.08 | Piggeldi | as far as i know there was no devfs on this machine before i installed udev |
| 11:47.16 | TBBle | Piggeldi: OK, that's so far out of left field for me, I'm not gonna try it. |
| 11:47.23 | unamaus | FATAL: Module driver not found. |
| 11:47.40 | Piggeldi | maybe i should install devfs, purge it again and then reinstall udev? |
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| 11:47.52 | Piggeldi | :-) |
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| 11:48.02 | TBBle | I use devfs-layout in udev. |
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| 11:48.30 | davix | DeLta and verSion SPAMS. |
| 11:48.47 | TBBle | unamaus: If you've got sd_mod with a usage-count of four, and four scsi disks, it can probably see them. |
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| 11:48.49 | boris | yes! they spammed me too :| |
| 11:49.01 | boris | hello anyway :D |
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| 11:49.09 | unamaus | cool thats what it seems to say |
| 11:49.23 | boris | i wanted to know, if i could apt-get a group of compilers which allows me to compile the kernel and other stuff... |
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| 11:49.34 | boris | because i don't know what and how many compilers i need |
| 11:49.39 | Penix | !ops |
| 11:49.39 | dpkg | Please invoke '! ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 11:49.40 | TBBle | Well, do you see them in /sys? |
| 11:49.42 | unamaus | if only i can get them to show on Disl |
| 11:49.44 | unamaus | if only i can get them to show on Disk |
| 11:49.45 | boris | is there a group of the tools i can apt get? |
| 11:49.45 | drac | !b-e boris |
| 11:49.46 | dpkg | boris: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 11:49.49 | boris | ah |
| 11:49.51 | TBBle | /sys/block |
| 11:49.51 | boris | thanks :) |
| 11:49.59 | boris | apt-get install build-essential |
| 11:50.01 | boris | right? |
| 11:50.01 | unamaus | so i could use them |
| 11:50.05 | drac | right |
| 11:50.08 | Overand | also he probably wants the ncurses library right? |
| 11:50.09 | boris | thanks a lot : |
| 11:50.10 | boris | :D |
| 11:50.12 | Overand | will that be in build-essentiual? |
| 11:50.17 | Overand | er not library |
| 11:50.20 | Overand | nevermind |
| 11:50.23 | boris | lol :d |
| 11:50.24 | Overand | forget i said anything =] |
| 11:50.27 | boris | ^_^ |
| 11:50.32 | TBBle | boris: I think the kernel-source docs list the packages you need to build the kernel. Or make-kpkg's does, I forget. |
| 11:50.42 | superSSS | IN which package is make-kpkg? |
| 11:50.43 | praha1 | Piggeldi: well the above scenario is the only tht break udev upgrade : you remove devfs but udev detect that /dev is still devfs and try to uprade a devfs system ... but at next reboot things goes bad ..., MAKEDEV null and console may fix enough to boot and login properly (the issue is better described in udev bugs reports (i never experimented this myself) |
| 11:51.00 | boris | TBBle: thanks for the info :0 |
| 11:51.01 | boris | :) |
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| 11:51.23 | boris | see ya :D |
| 11:52.06 | drac | superSSS: kernel-package |
| 11:52.25 | Penix | helix: you still got ops? |
| 11:52.31 | helix | yes |
| 11:52.35 | Piggeldi | so i'll better try to look on debian.org for this? ok... i try to get a running machine to do this :-( |
| 11:52.40 | helix | I hide them under my bed |
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| 11:53.02 | praha1 | unamaus: i forgot to tell you to check /sys/block , you should have sda, sdb ... in it |
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| 11:53.13 | Penix | dirty spammers are around |
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| 11:53.21 | helix | :/ |
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| 11:53.45 | helix | holy crap |
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| 11:53.49 | unamaus | umm it only shows as bash: /sys/block: is a directory |
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| 11:53.54 | praha1 | irc_: please don't login as root (it is dangerous) |
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| 11:54.10 | praha1 | unamaus: ls /sys/block ? |
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| 11:54.21 | unamaus | oop sorry didn't see that |
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| 11:54.27 | praha1 | ls is to list the content of a directory |
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| 11:54.36 | unamaus | yep |
| 11:54.37 | Shorty` | hey guys |
| 11:54.42 | helix | what the fuck |
| 11:54.45 | helix | baaaaaaah |
| 11:54.46 | helix | :( |
| 11:54.47 | Shorty` | is there anything in debian like redhats kickstart stuff? |
| 11:54.48 | Overand | what happened to the 'root has landed' message? or does that onl yhappen if there's no ~, ie proper ident |
| 11:54.52 | unamaus | shows as sda sdb sdc sdd |
| 11:55.00 | praha1 | Shorty`: fai |
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| 11:55.14 | Shorty` | is that an acronym or a package? :P |
| 11:55.24 | Penix | Shorty`: both |
| 11:55.26 | superSSS | make-kpkg -rev Custom.1 kernel-image-2.6.8 |
| 11:55.26 | superSSS | Error: Unknown target kernel-image-2.6.8 |
| 11:55.27 | unamaus | so how do i get them to appear in disk? |
| 11:55.41 | praha1 | unamaus: great ! then you may have /dev/sda* /dev/sdb* ... too |
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| 11:55.53 | Drevay | hey |
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| 11:56.02 | Drevay | what's the command i issue to install an rpm? |
| 11:56.04 | Drevay | (i just got rpm) |
| 11:56.07 | Penix | Drevay: you don't |
| 11:56.13 | Drevay | Penix, why not? |
| 11:56.21 | Drevay | ok well ... |
| 11:56.22 | Penix | Drevay: because you're not using RedHat |
| 11:56.24 | Penix | I hope |
| 11:56.28 | Drevay | i'm not |
| 11:56.30 | praha1 | Shorty`: both i think (but you will find more information, experiments on the fai site). I haven't tried it yet , just looked great from the reports (and few bugs) |
| 11:56.39 | Penix | Drevay: go download a deb instead |
| 11:56.39 | Drevay | so, can i convert this rpm to a deb package? |
| 11:56.48 | Penix | Drevay: yes. apt-get install alien |
| 11:56.48 | unamaus | umm permission denied |
| 11:56.54 | nagual | Drevay: use alien |
| 11:56.55 | FlimFlamMan | how can i change the number of lines displayed on vga monitor console? |
| 11:56.56 | Drevay | Penix, can't, ATi only offers the package in rpm format |
| 11:56.57 | praha1 | Drevay: the best would be to use alien on the rpm to make a deb from it |
| 11:56.57 | nagual | .. |
| 11:56.59 | Drevay | Penix, ok |
| 11:57.00 | TBBle | unamaus: What was permission deined? |
| 11:57.04 | Drevay | praha1, cool |
| 11:57.18 | unamaus | /dev/sda so on and so forth |
| 11:57.19 | Shorty` | praha1: I work for an australian ISP and unfortunatly we use redhat as a "base install" for our "standard environment" and the sysadmin really likes debian if we can do something like kickstart, and this looks like the way to go |
| 11:57.38 | TBBle | ls /dev/sd* |
| 11:57.50 | TBBle | What's kickstart do? |
| 11:57.53 | Drevay | ok, i have alien now |
| 11:57.57 | Shorty` | automatically installs rpms and shit |
| 11:58.03 | Shorty` | you tell it what you want, what you don't want etc. |
| 11:58.03 | Drevay | what's the command to convert it to a deb package? |
| 11:58.07 | Drevay | (with alien) |
| 11:58.11 | Penix | Drevay: man alien |
| 11:58.12 | Shorty` | alien -d blah.rpm |
| 11:58.13 | Shorty` | I think |
| 11:58.14 | Shorty` | :) |
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| 11:58.19 | Drevay | thanks |
| 11:58.20 | praha1 | Shorty`: i saw a few repotrs from ISP on their site, and they definitely describe them as a kickstart/yast ... tool (maybe better) |
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| 11:58.36 | Overand | Drevay: getting a proper package is MUCH preferred to using alien |
| 11:58.44 | Overand | and frankly, IMO, going from source is preferred to using alien |
| 11:58.48 | Drevay | Overand, no option, unfortunately :( |
| 11:58.52 | Drevay | *only option |
| 11:58.55 | Shorty` | praha1: I'm not sure I understand, you're saying it's better than kickstart/yast, or they're better than it? |
| 11:58.57 | Overand | Drevay: what exactly are you trying to install? |
| 11:59.08 | Drevay | Overand, new ATi drivers |
| 11:59.19 | Overand | eek |
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| 11:59.23 | Drevay | Overand, they finally support 3D very well |
| 11:59.26 | Overand | will that even work? |
| 11:59.29 | Drevay | Overand, which is a huge step for ATi |
| 11:59.37 | unamaus | wish there was a way to turn those ati rpm files into bin files |
| 11:59.38 | Drevay | Overand, i've used them on Mepis, they work great |
| 11:59.40 | praha1 | unamaus: then you have your drives (/dev/sda) and partitions (/dev/sda1 ...) . Can you mount them for example mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt (as root) |
| 11:59.48 | Overand | hm. |
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| 11:59.50 | Drevay | people are playing doom3 and ut2k4 on Linux with ATi cards, so that must say something :P |
| 11:59.52 | Overand | mepis is .deb based? |
| 11:59.56 | Drevay | yes |
| 12:00.06 | Drevay | although mepis comes with the latest |
| 12:00.06 | Overand | well, more power to ya |
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| 12:00.23 | Overand | there's probably a way to extract the crap from the .deb |
| 12:00.32 | Overand | i'd suggest you do that instead, but hey, whatever =] |
| 12:00.40 | Drevay | what's the command to install a deb package again? (sorry, i'm a slackware user turned Debian ;)) |
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| 12:00.59 | mb | hi.. I have a problem. I just did a apt-get upgrade and now when I start X it seems like my Fn key is down (im using a ibm t41 laptop). without X they keyboard is ok (im not running x right now).. Any ideas? |
| 12:01.06 | Drevay | AFAIK all this package does is extract fglrxconfig to a certain dir, nothing more |
| 12:01.09 | Drevay | and a few test files |
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| 12:01.26 | Profit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.29 | Profit | tar -zxvf ? |
| 12:01.40 | mb | there is a 1 light that is on when I startx that indicate that Fn is pressed ?!? |
| 12:01.40 | thesaboteur | unzip? |
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| 12:01.46 | Profit | yes |
| 12:01.54 | Overand | Profit: the command is 'unzip' |
| 12:01.54 | praha1 | Shorty`: http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/, i cannot tell those thing until i try it myself |
| 12:01.59 | Drevay | anybody? installing a .deb package? :S |
| 12:01.59 | unamaus | prahal: did the first one fine |
| 12:02.12 | praha1 | Drevay: dpkg -i package.deb |
| 12:02.21 | Drevay | praha1, much thanks :) |
| 12:02.55 | unamaus | according to mtab /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt |
| 12:03.07 | Drevay | is there a command that i can use to force it to overwrite things? |
| 12:03.11 | Drevay | like, -F or something? |
| 12:03.33 | Drevay | oh, found it ;) |
| 12:03.55 | TBBle | You could diffstat it maybe? |
| 12:03.55 | unamaus | so would that mean the next would be mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb /mnt? |
| 12:03.57 | TBBle | Ooops |
| 12:04.45 | Drevay | yay! |
| 12:04.50 | Drevay | ^_^; |
| 12:05.10 | Drevay | yes, wewt, it worked |
| 12:05.12 | Drevay | ^___^ |
| 12:05.25 | praha1 | unamaus: well everything works, you can unmount /mnt then retry . The problems seems that you have not (or the installer did not let you) setup "mount points" (/usr, /mnt ... directories where you want your scsi disks partitions to be available) for your physical drives partitions (/dev/sda1, /dev/sdb# ...) |
| 12:05.47 | TBBle | unamaus: No, you can't mount /dev/sdb, usually. It has to be /dev/sdb1 or something |
| 12:06.26 | TBBle | Or /dev/sda2 maybe? |
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| 12:06.26 | praha1 | unamaus: yes /dev/sdb is the drives , /dev/sdb1 the first partition of this drive |
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| 12:06.51 | romain | Hi everybody, I need help with my debian system : |
| 12:07.10 | aum | can someone please try 'telnet freenet.org.nz 7071' and let me know what you see? |
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| 12:07.28 | Drevay | brb |
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| 12:07.45 | valdyn | aum: Connected to 60-234-138-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz. |
| 12:07.57 | aum | valdyn: thx |
| 12:08.31 | romain | I have a prb with my ppp0 connexion : when I get connected, kde is like freezed, I can not launch any application |
| 12:08.51 | romain | And as soon as the connextion is down, everything becomes ok |
| 12:08.52 | romain | ... |
| 12:08.57 | valdyn | romain: how are you connecting? |
| 12:08.59 | romain | I do not understand ! |
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| 12:09.14 | valdyn | romain: with kppp? |
| 12:09.18 | romain | using usb adsl pppoeci |
| 12:09.18 | praha1 | unamaus: you should create one directory for each partition and mount the partitions (/dev/sdb1or 2 ...) on it. To have them mounted at each boot you have to list them in /etc/fstab (but you should not mount multiple /dev/sd* on the same directory else you will only see the latest mounted one content |
| 12:09.44 | valdyn | romain: the command to connect is? |
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| 12:10.12 | romain | the command is eciadsl-start (script given by my modem driver) |
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| 12:10.38 | romain | I do not know the exact command |
| 12:10.41 | romain | for ppp |
| 12:10.42 | valdyn | romain: thats not a debian tool, is it? |
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| 12:10.58 | romain | no it is a tools from eciadsl |
| 12:11.04 | valdyn | romain: well, you gotta know _how_ you connect , if you maanged to try to connect |
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| 12:11.13 | romain | I can find the launch command if you want ! |
| 12:11.30 | romain | My connection works fine |
| 12:11.33 | valdyn | romain: no,I just wanted to know what you did to connect |
| 12:11.36 | FlimFlamMan | how can i change the number of lines displayed on a console (vga monitor hooked directly to x86 box)? |
| 12:11.37 | valdyn | romain: not more |
| 12:11.38 | romain | by then kde is like stopped! |
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| 12:12.01 | unamaus | ok umm i hope you don't mind but could you walk me through that? |
| 12:12.05 | valdyn | romain: don't use this provided stuff, use pppoeconf |
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| 12:12.34 | TBBle | FlimFlamMan: If you're using an fbdriver that supports it, fbset. Otherwise, kernel parameter vga=ask |
| 12:12.38 | helix | meh, I see rails is still apparently a pain to setup on debian |
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| 12:12.40 | helix | ruby-- |
| 12:12.57 | FlimFlamMan | TBBle, thx |
| 12:13.20 | TBBle | Once you know which mode you want, you can put that instead of ask on the kernel command line |
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| 12:14.00 | Babbage | FlimFlamMan? Alternatively use SVGATextMode |
| 12:14.43 | romain | valdyn: |
| 12:15.16 | romain | my connection is launch automaticaly by my script, my modem is only working with pppoeci |
| 12:15.33 | romain | it is a special driver for eci modems |
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| 12:15.59 | praha1 | romain: http://eciadsl.sourceforge.net/scripts/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2805&highlight=kde (you are french ?) |
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| 12:16.19 | romain | but I do not understand why kde is freezed by ppp0 ! Yes i'm french! |
| 12:16.23 | Rock0r | guten mittag |
| 12:16.23 | praha1 | 2.6.11 helps a bit (5min for an applicaiton to start :-/ instead of deep freeze |
| 12:16.30 | Rock0r | oh hi all |
| 12:16.48 | praha1 | romain: i asked because msot of the forums are in french |
| 12:16.49 | romain | looping78 is me!! |
| 12:17.22 | romain | I asked in the forum for this pb, the devloppers tried to find |
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| 12:19.18 | romain | Do you think my network config is not right! |
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| 12:19.46 | romain | Do I have to see 127.0.0.1 when I type ifconfig ? |
| 12:19.48 | superSSS | I dont get any .deb file after doing ; fakeroot make-kpkg clean kernel_headers kernel_image |
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| 12:20.07 | praha1 | romain: you may try killing/stopping lisa (a kde daemon which probe the network interface ) , there may be problem with the driver (and also unloading ehci-hcd, it is usb 2 and have a few bugs) |
| 12:20.07 | Drevay | hi |
| 12:20.11 | Drevay | bit of a problem |
| 12:20.21 | praha1 | romain: maybe stopping samba too |
| 12:20.28 | Drevay | i configured the x config file with fglrxconfig without a problem |
| 12:20.32 | Drevay | yet X won't start now |
| 12:20.44 | romain | I do not have samba, I'm using uhci (usb1.1) |
| 12:20.47 | Drevay | i even enabled POSIX shared memory, like they instructed |
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| 12:21.01 | Drevay | but, well, yeah, X won't start |
| 12:21.07 | Drevay | any clues? |
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| 12:21.39 | romain | Lisa is not launched on my system |
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| 12:21.59 | romain | I think my network is not configured correctly! |
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| 12:22.17 | romain | What should I see at a ifconfig or a route -n |
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| 12:22.28 | praha1 | Drevay: maybe X don't find the fglrx driver , you can check the errors messages in /var/log/XFree.0.log (the driver should be in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers) |
| 12:22.40 | valdyn | romain: configured correctly or not, that's not supposed to hang X |
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| 12:23.01 | Drevay | ok |
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| 12:23.24 | romain | I have the feeling that X application are looking for something (maybe localhost , hostname etc... ) ? |
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| 12:23.35 | romain | they do not find that ! |
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| 12:23.56 | Drevay | yeah, fglrx_driv.o is in there, praha1 |
| 12:23.58 | underdog | hi guys. is anyone here having trouble with the xfont-nexus package? the font won't appear on the font dialogs |
| 12:24.05 | trueno | Hi! How can I send a telnet break from a terminal? I am trying to recover a passwd from a cisco ADSL router |
| 12:24.23 | praha1 | romain: cat /proc/interrupts |
| 12:24.23 | praha1 | do your uhci or eci module share interrupts with your ide/agp drivers ? |
| 12:24.54 | TBBle | trueno: Maybe from the control-] menu? |
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| 12:25.19 | valdyn | romain: you should ask the producer of that driver |
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| 12:26.13 | praha1 | valdyn: he already did , the issue is unresolved on their help forum |
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| 12:26.16 | romain | valdyn : I asked, but it seems to be ok with the driver. X application can not start when ppp0 is on |
| 12:26.29 | romain | I cat /proc/interrputs |
| 12:26.39 | romain | I can see uhci |
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| 12:26.44 | romain | interrupt 5 |
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| 12:27.14 | romain | but i can not see agp |
| 12:27.16 | praha1 | romain: is there a route missing in route -n with ppp0 up which is there when it is not loaded ? |
| 12:27.24 | romain | ide0 is not on the same interrupt |
| 12:27.36 | Drevay | i found an error in the XFree log, praha1 |
| 12:27.39 | hever | Hello there, how could I change the resolution for my bootup? There was an option at for the kernel at the bootloader (I'm using GRUB)... |
| 12:27.39 | praha1 | romain: is it alone on this interrupt ? |
| 12:27.47 | Drevay | it loaded the driver, however |
| 12:28.14 | romain | praha1 : when ppp0 is down, there's nothing |
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| 12:28.39 | valdyn | hever: vga=792 or vga=ask, passed to your kernel in menu.lst, see also /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/ |
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| 12:28.43 | romain | when ppp0 is up, I have 0.0.0.0 my ip xxxx and my_ip 0.0.0.0 xxxx |
| 12:28.47 | praha1 | romain: well that explains the problem you should have at lest the local route (192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 , on my box) |
| 12:28.49 | romain | 2 lines |
| 12:29.02 | valdyn | hever: and that will only work if you have a framebuffer |
| 12:29.03 | praha1 | else X cannot find itself (it use tcp) |
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| 12:29.12 | Drevay | fglrx: no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:0:1) found (--) Chipset RADEON 9600 Pro (RV360 4152) found |
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| 12:29.18 | Drevay | that's what the error was, praha1 |
| 12:29.22 | Drevay | or, at least, so far |
| 12:29.26 | romain | I do not have at least local route |
| 12:29.27 | trueno | TBBle: I am completely new to Cisco stuff. A friend gave me his old ADSL router but he can't remember the passwd. I have guessed the router's private IP but I can't get its web interface. Telnet works but don't know how/when ... |
| 12:29.27 | trueno | should I send the "break" |
| 12:29.34 | Drevay | praha1: so, any clue? |
| 12:29.35 | hever | valdyn Yes I had it run. But I installed a new Kernel and forgot the option ;) But what means vga=ask ? |
| 12:29.49 | romain | What should i do ? |
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| 12:29.58 | romain | I even dont have 127.0.0.1 |
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| 12:30.08 | valdyn | Drevay: your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 has a PciID entry? |
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| 12:30.11 | Drevay | i don't have a 9600 Pro, for one, i have a 9600 XT |
| 12:30.13 | nagual | trueno: most hwrouters you can reset |
| 12:30.17 | Drevay | valdyn: let me check |
| 12:30.22 | praha1 | romain: their script is broken , you may try hacking it and set up the route manually , or maybe it oly restore the proper routes when the sync is established ... |
| 12:30.25 | valdyn | Drevay: remove it |
| 12:30.36 | valdyn | Drevay: or # comment it out |
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| 12:30.50 | Drevay | ok |
| 12:31.35 | romain | well I'll see with the driver developpers, maybe it is my fault : i skipped network setup at debian installation!!!! |
| 12:31.45 | praha1 | Drevay: maybe they have the same chipset (X driver don't know all the marketing names) , could you check the device section in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 for a pci bus id (and if the section exists) |
| 12:31.51 | hever | valdyn Yes What means vga=ask ? |
| 12:31.53 | trueno | nagual: Yeas, but I don't have the original passwd/config either |
| 12:32.01 | valdyn | Drevay: its called "BusID" sorry |
| 12:32.06 | superSSS | I dont get any .deb file after doing ; fakeroot make-kpkg clean kernel_headers kernel_image |
| 12:32.13 | valdyn | Drevay: other than that.. do what i said |
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| 12:32.37 | valdyn | hever: tells the kernel to prompt you to pick a display mode |
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| 12:32.42 | madduck | on my machine, the TV card's mixer gets loaded first, so it becomes card0 and thus the default. |
| 12:32.46 | madduck | short of changing the module load order (managed by hotplug), how can i change the default alsa sound card? |
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| 12:32.51 | hever | valdyn thanks |
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| 12:33.04 | praha1 | romain: duh that s bad ! you can install etherconf and dpkg-reconfigure etherconf to setit up properly afterwards (there are talks to resolve this problem in the isntaller , maybe enforving the network setup) |
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| 12:33.23 | valdyn | hever: you still want to read the kernels Documentation though, vga=ask wont list many mods either way IIRC |
| 12:33.36 | mb | Im going crazy now.. Any idea on how to turn off Fn-key lock?? Anybody ?? |
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| 12:33.49 | madduck | fn-key? |
| 12:33.51 | valdyn | mb: in your bios? |
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| 12:34.08 | romain | praha1 : i do not have ethernet card! |
| 12:34.23 | Drevay | ok so |
| 12:34.28 | Drevay | the BusID is commented out already |
| 12:34.31 | Drevay | which i didn't do |
| 12:34.32 | nagual | trueno: find the docs for that router, and you will most likely be able to do what you want |
| 12:34.37 | paty | quem tem fotos deste curso? |
| 12:34.39 | praha1 | romain: i guess you have the hack "127.0.0.1 localhost your_host_nmae" in /etc/hosts ... |
| 12:34.46 | mb | I just did a apt-get upgrade and now when I start X my Fn is pressed ?? Cant use the u/i/o keys in X .. Without X the keyboard is ok |
| 12:34.52 | hever | My linux console is set to german but I want it in english. I tried dpkg-reconfigure locales. german and english is installed english is choosen as default. My console is still german... |
| 12:35.03 | romain | praha1 : yes I put that! |
| 12:35.06 | tuxyRochefort | how to replace metacity with sawfish ? |
| 12:35.07 | mb | there is a small light indicating that the Fn key is pressed ? |
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| 12:35.25 | bogon | hever: what says locale? |
| 12:35.33 | hever | bogon locale ? |
| 12:35.36 | romain | praha1 : nnnooo!! I put 127.0.0.1 myhostname! I replace localhost !! |
| 12:35.40 | bogon | hever: it's a command |
| 12:35.42 | romain | is it bad ? |
| 12:35.53 | hever | bogon german |
| 12:36.04 | Drevay | i found the problem |
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| 12:36.07 | Drevay | i found the bloody problem |
| 12:36.13 | hever | bogon de_DE@euro |
| 12:36.18 | Drevay | modprobe can't find the the module |
| 12:36.19 | Drevay | fglrx |
| 12:36.22 | bogon | hever: well, that's the reason |
| 12:36.28 | valdyn | !ati drivers |
| 12:36.28 | dpkg | debs of the binary ATI drivers are at http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html (requires that the 'rpm' package be installed) Be sure to *modularize* both the AGP GART and the Radeon DRM options in your custom kernel (under Character Devices). ATI's binary driver does NOT support 9700 mobility radeon or the Mobility U1. Ask me about 'mobility u1'. |
| 12:36.31 | mb | valdyn : any idea on where I should look to fix my problem ? |
| 12:36.34 | hever | bogon yes but how could I change it ? |
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| 12:36.38 | valdyn | mb: no idea |
| 12:36.42 | Drevay | valdyn: thanks~ |
| 12:36.58 | valdyn | Drevay: not sure what I did ) |
| 12:37.02 | mb | valdyn ok.. damn :> |
| 12:37.05 | Drevay | hehe |
| 12:37.23 | bogon | hever: is the package user-de installed? |
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| 12:37.34 | hever | bogon I see I had to relogin... |
| 12:37.36 | hever | bye |
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| 12:37.48 | Drevay | !ati drivers |
| 12:37.48 | dpkg | debs of the binary ATI drivers are at http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html (requires that the 'rpm' package be installed) Be sure to *modularize* both the AGP GART and the Radeon DRM options in your custom kernel (under Character Devices). ATI's binary driver does NOT support 9700 mobility radeon or the Mobility U1. Ask me about 'mobility u1'. |
| 12:37.53 | Drevay | i need the url again, sorry |
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| 12:38.27 | Kevin | http://www.tcpsecurity.com/ |
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| 12:38.27 | valdyn | Drevay: you can /msg dpkg <keywords> |
| 12:38.27 | WiseQ | Which package am I looking for if I want the "Graphic Display library for php"? |
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| 12:38.40 | TBBle | php-gd? |
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| 12:38.40 | valdyn | !tell WiseQ about search |
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| 12:39.14 | Drevay | valdyn: thanks |
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| 12:40.31 | WiseQ | Tbble; I've checked out that package, but somehow the installation wants to install a bunch of other rather strange dependencies associated with that package, (Like the Caudium webserver). Thus I have discarded that package as the correct one. |
| 12:40.31 | nagual | !tell nagual about search |
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| 12:40.32 | valdyn | WiseQ: php3-gd or php4-gd |
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| 12:40.32 | nagual | !tell nagual about search |
| 12:40.32 | nagual | (sorry, i have a script that doesnt allow queries) |
| 12:41.20 | valdyn | WiseQ: thats a fluke, it does not depend on caudium |
| 12:41.20 | valdyn | !depends php4-gd |
| 12:41.20 | dpkg | php4-gd: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgd2-xpm (>= 2.0.33), libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libt1-5 (>= 5.0.2), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxpm4 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, phpapi-20020918-zts, php4-common (= 4:4.3.10-8) |
| 12:41.23 | valdyn | WiseQ: not even indirectly |
| 12:41.45 | praha1 | romain: try at least 127.0.0.1 localhost your_host_name (that s not grat but keeping localhost and keeping it first may fix a few glitches) |
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| 12:42.14 | WiseQ | valdyn; my system wants these additional packages; |
| 12:42.14 | WiseQ | caudium caudium-modules caudium-php4 libgmp3 libttf2 libzzip-0-12 php4-gd pike7.2 pike7.2-crypto pike7.2-gz |
| 12:42.15 | WiseQ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.17 | Drevay | how would i remove packages installed by dpkg? |
| 12:42.22 | Drevay | like, an uninstall command |
| 12:42.28 | WiseQ | Valdyn; I'm running debian sarge. |
| 12:42.29 | xk | Drevay: dpkg --purge <pkgname> |
| 12:42.32 | TBBle | Drevay: apt-get remove |
| 12:42.34 | Drevay | xk: thanks :D |
| 12:42.43 | xk | I prefer purge over remove. |
| 12:42.58 | TBBle | Drevay: apt-get remove --purge |
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| 12:43.12 | Drevay | thanks |
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| 12:43.17 | valdyn | WiseQ: yea i know, but im pretty sure that it does not really depend on caudium, im not sure about your specfic workaround, i would suggets you just install it, and replace caudium with an alternative after that |
| 12:43.29 | valdyn | !depends php4 |
| 12:43.33 | dpkg | php4: depends on libapache-mod-php4 (>= 4:4.3.10-8) | libapache2-mod-php4 (>= 4:4.3.10-8) | caudium-php4 (>= 4:4.3.10-8), php4-common (>= 4:4.3.10-8) |
| 12:43.39 | TBBle | !depends php4-common |
| 12:43.44 | dpkg | php4-common: depends on sed (>= 4.1.1-1) |
| 12:43.45 | asg | valdyn: it's a known bug |
| 12:43.49 | valdyn | WiseQ: as you can see, libapache-mod-php4 is one alternative |
| 12:44.02 | valdyn | asg: yea, and i know it, is it in the bts with a workaround? |
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| 12:44.10 | xk | TBBle: why type all that? |
| 12:44.12 | asg | valdyn: it's in the bts, no known work around yet |
| 12:44.28 | valdyn | asg: dselect-upgrade works under some circumstances |
| 12:44.32 | TBBle | xk: So you don't end up with broken packages if you're removing something that's depended on. |
| 12:44.35 | romain | praha1 : thanks!! I'll try that, reboot and see ... |
| 12:44.41 | romain | blody network!!! |
| 12:45.10 | praha1 | romain: you don't need to reboot , just ifdown -a , ifup -a |
| 12:45.12 | asg | valdyn: yeah, according to the bug, it's an apt-get issue. I think just installing and then removing the caudium packages works. |
| 12:45.26 | romain | praha1 : ok ! |
| 12:45.38 | WiseQ | Okay, I`ll try that method then. Thanks :) |
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| 12:46.06 | jetscreamer | somebody lie so i can say 'lies!' |
| 12:46.15 | TBBle | This is a lie |
| 12:46.16 | jetscreamer | or tell the truth, either way |
| 12:46.18 | asg | jetscreamer: we think you are great |
| 12:46.28 | jetscreamer | lies! |
| 12:46.28 | alba1 | TBBle tells bullshits |
| 12:46.35 | jetscreamer | you KNOW i'm great! |
| 12:46.52 | jetscreamer | :] |
| 12:47.15 | galois | is there a way to get fetchmail to reporcess messages it has seen before per new rules? |
| 12:47.18 | xk | !hehstats |
| 12:47.18 | dpkg | total count of heh on #debian: 19595 |
| 12:47.19 | jetscreamer | but if you are lying, then you are telling the truth |
| 12:47.44 | Overand | heh |
| 12:47.49 | Overand | just contributing to the bank |
| 12:47.49 | TBBle | ^_^ |
| 12:47.52 | jetscreamer | but you cannot tell the truth , because that is a lie |
| 12:47.56 | xk | !hehstats #debian |
| 12:47.56 | dpkg | #debian has not said heh yet. |
| 12:48.01 | xk | hm.. |
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| 12:48.17 | asg | jetscreamer: /j #philosophy101 |
| 12:48.18 | alba1 | !duhstats |
| 12:48.21 | jetscreamer | !hehstats xh |
| 12:48.21 | dpkg | xh has not said heh yet. |
| 12:48.31 | jetscreamer | !hehstats Overand |
| 12:48.31 | dpkg | Overand has not said heh yet. |
| 12:48.36 | jetscreamer | lies! |
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| 12:48.55 | jetscreamer | mr spock please explain, asg |
| 12:48.59 | alba1 | does a replace need a conflict for the package to remove the one it replcae ? |
| 12:49.03 | xk | looks like it's been disabled. |
| 12:49.05 | alba1 | damn replace |
| 12:49.20 | alba1 | !tell apt about lies |
| 12:49.24 | asg | jetscreamer: can't, I just woke up |
| 12:49.26 | Rock0r | problem with cups: cups sys printing is ok but no printed paper comes out... suggestions anyone ? |
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| 12:49.58 | inc|freaky | i luv debian :D |
| 12:49.59 | asg | Rock0r: did you print a test page? did it work? |
| 12:50.14 | jetscreamer | so either no paper comes out, or no printed paper comes out... that's my idea |
| 12:50.29 | inc|freaky | how can i find out which distribution i got installed? |
| 12:50.35 | Rock0r | i tried it with a test-print-page |
| 12:50.38 | Drevay | hmm |
| 12:50.39 | jetscreamer | cat |
| 12:50.42 | Drevay | still no luck |
| 12:50.45 | asg | inc|freaky: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 12:50.47 | Drevay | i even installed the drivers |
| 12:50.48 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.50 | inc|freaky | asg: thx :D |
| 12:50.51 | jetscreamer | lies! |
| 12:50.54 | Drevay | it says modprobe can't find fglrx |
| 12:51.00 | Drevay | (the deb drivers, even) |
| 12:51.04 | jetscreamer | now that's not a lie |
| 12:51.05 | inc|freaky | 3.1 is sarge? |
| 12:51.06 | asg | inc|freaky: if it comes back as '3.1', then check the version of libc6 your system has |
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| 12:51.09 | jetscreamer | ok i'm stopping |
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| 12:51.12 | alba1 | Drevay: depmod -a then retry ? |
| 12:51.14 | asg | inc|freaky: 3.1 is sarge and sid (for now) |
| 12:51.16 | Drevay | ok |
| 12:51.20 | xk | !_stats |
| 12:51.29 | inc|freaky | asg: how can i find out which libc6 my system has? |
| 12:51.34 | Drevay | no luck |
| 12:51.34 | asg | inc|freaky: dpkg -l libc6 |
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| 12:51.53 | Rock0r | asg: i tried it with a test-print-page but that doesn t work :( |
| 12:51.54 | prahal | inc|freaky: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 12:51.55 | inc|freaky | 2.3.2.ds1-20 <-- that's sarge? |
| 12:52.25 | prahal | Rock0r: cat /etc/debian_version > /dev/device_of_theprinter ? |
| 12:52.27 | asg | inc|freaky: and sid too |
| 12:52.38 | Drevay | ok then, i think i have to custom compile the kernel |
| 12:52.38 | inc|freaky | asg: so, how can i find out which release i got?` |
| 12:52.52 | asg | inc|freaky: egrep -i 'sarge|testing' /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:52.53 | Drevay | one of the instructions says the ati driver has to be "moduralized" under character devices |
| 12:53.00 | TBBle | apt-cache policy wu-ftpd |
| 12:53.04 | Drevay | somebody link me to compiling a kernel under Debian? |
| 12:53.09 | xk | cat /etc/apt/sources.list | cut -d" " -f3 | sort | uniq |
| 12:53.09 | prahal | inc|freaky: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 12:53.18 | jetscreamer | inc|freaky, that's the kernel |
| 12:53.22 | TBBle | And compare to the versions in the archive as to which is highest priority. |
| 12:53.26 | jetscreamer | that's terrible |
| 12:53.42 | jetscreamer | not |
| 12:53.51 | TBBle | Drevay: /usr/share/doc/kernel-package when you have kernel-package installed |
| 12:54.01 | Drevay | TBBle: thanks |
| 12:54.10 | inc|freaky | asg: no, i had sid sources in there. and had a default-version in apt.conf sarge suddenly it cahnged to sid and im scared im running sid now because there were no upgrades since 3 days (i commented out the sid sources and changed the default-release back to sarge) |
| 12:54.18 | Rock0r | asg there ist nothing displayed with that cmd ( cat /etc/debian_version > /dev/usblp0 ) |
| 12:54.25 | Drevay | TBBle: is the kernel source / headers installed by default? |
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| 12:55.11 | asg | Rock0r: I'd recheck your cups configuration then. |
| 12:55.12 | prahal | Rock0r: it should print (garbage at least) |
| 12:55.33 | Rock0r | asg ok thnx |
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| 12:55.40 | Drevay | hmm |
| 12:55.42 | Drevay | brb, washroom break |
| 12:55.46 | prahal | hum if cat ... > /dev/device does not work , cups cannot help, check permmissions on the device, or if the device diver is loaded |
| 12:56.08 | Rock0r | prahal well when i try a live cd the printer works... |
| 12:56.34 | Putiikki | how can i see what program uses network, and how much it uses? |
| 12:56.52 | Overand | iftop will show you some stuff |
| 12:57.02 | Rock0r | prahal the device ist bound into the kernel (not a modul); how can i check the permissions on the device ? in the cupsd.conf ? |
| 12:57.06 | prahal | Rock0r: well debian cups version have pretty streong permisisons |
| 12:57.45 | asg | inc|freaky: apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade |
| 12:57.50 | asg | inc|freaky: and don't run sid, ever. |
| 12:57.51 | prahal | Rock0r: ls -l /dev/usblp0 (groups your_user will tell you if you are in the right group) |
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| 12:58.22 | Rock0r | iam trying it with user root :) |
| 12:58.28 | prahal | Rock0r: you could try to print as root (cat file > /dev/usblp0 , then lpr file if it worked) |
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| 12:58.33 | Putiikki | Overand: thanks, this is useful |
| 12:58.43 | prahal | damn |
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| 12:59.13 | prahal | Rock0r: are you sure your printer is not on /dev/usblp1 or else ? |
| 12:59.46 | Rock0r | prahal no i am not sure but i hope that it is :) |
| 13:00.00 | xk | prahal: do you mean /dev/usb/lp? ? |
| 13:00.03 | Rock0r | possibilities to check out witch port...? |
| 13:00.22 | inc|freaky | asg: it doesnt update any packages |
| 13:00.22 | prahal | Rock0r: well any other (except if you use udev), you can check by cat file > /device |
| 13:01.11 | xk | 4 bots? |
| 13:01.14 | prahal | Rock0r: you can check all it is harmless |
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| 13:01.29 | Rock0r | prahal ok i start.. |
| 13:01.32 | xk | all on the same host. |
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| 13:01.47 | asg | xk: get 'em tiger |
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| 13:02.27 | Rock0r | no response on any usblpX device :( |
| 13:02.28 | prahal | Rock0r: i forgot , gnome-cups-manager and foomatic-gui can detects which device (if you isntall all theirs depend, recommands and suggest) |
| 13:02.49 | prahal | Rock0r: you are fast ! then the above won't help much :( |
| 13:02.51 | xk | crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 0 Dec 14 2003 /dev/usb/lp0 |
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| 13:03.16 | xk | has the device been renamed to usblp[01] ? |
| 13:03.23 | Rock0r | prahal ok i try it slowly ^^ |
| 13:03.44 | Rock0r | xk i don t think so but i can t say it for sure.. |
| 13:04.00 | Drevay | ok |
| 13:04.01 | Drevay | hmm |
| 13:04.15 | Drevay | i want to get the kernel source for kernel-2.4.27-1-386 |
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| 13:04.25 | Drevay | so what would i apt-get? |
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| 13:04.38 | TBBle | Drevay: kernel-source-2.4.27-1 I guess. |
| 13:04.39 | Rock0r | xk i have "-rw-r--r--" /dev/usblp0 |
| 13:04.41 | Rock0r | " |
| 13:04.43 | Drevay | ok thanks |
| 13:04.52 | xk | Rock0r: what about the major/minor? |
| 13:04.54 | galois | I have just started getting fetchmail to utilise procmail directly instead of delivering via the mail queue. It is leaving the mails on the server. Is it possible to process old emails (in the queue) via this new system? I have had a look at the FAQ and think that -flush ing the queue may produce this behaviour. Is this correct? |
| 13:05.03 | Drevay | hmm, guess not |
| 13:05.09 | xk | Rock0r: the first bit is -? that's broken. |
| 13:05.10 | vaq | Hello when i try to umount a NFS harddrive i just mounted it says: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to receive umount2: Device or resource busy umount: /server1: device is busy - Im doing the umount with umount -f /server1 |
| 13:05.14 | xk | it needs to be c |
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| 13:05.29 | xk | show us the _whole_ line of ls. |
| 13:05.30 | Drevay | yay |
| 13:05.31 | TBBle | Poke around, it'll be something like that. |
| 13:05.34 | Drevay | no -1 i guess |
| 13:05.40 | Rock0r | xk ok "chmod crw-r--r-- /dev/usblp0" ? |
| 13:05.46 | xk | Rock0r: listen to me. |
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| 13:05.50 | Rock0r | k |
| 13:05.56 | xk | Rock0r: ls -la /dev/usblp0. paste the whole output. |
| 13:06.13 | xk | don't fiddle with the output and confuse us. |
| 13:06.24 | honschu | Is there a feature in X to set the resolution to a fixed value and then, this feature let's you change the resolution virually. |
| 13:06.25 | xk | first you mention without -, now with c? |
| 13:06.34 | xk | s/without/with/ |
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| 13:07.08 | Rock0r | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26112 2005-03-05 15:00 /dev/usblp0 |
| 13:07.13 | xk | that's fucked. |
| 13:07.14 | xk | it's a file. |
| 13:07.19 | Rock0r | doh |
| 13:07.22 | xk | Rock0r: ls -la /dev/usb/lp0 |
| 13:07.23 | xk | try that. |
| 13:07.26 | TBBle | It's because it was >'d to. |
| 13:07.45 | Rock0r | crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 0 2004-09-18 13:52 /dev/usb/lp0 |
| 13:07.45 | Esaj | where can I find a .deb for php 5? |
| 13:07.50 | xk | that's your device |
| 13:07.57 | xk | who the hell told you it was usblp0? |
| 13:08.01 | xk | without the / |
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| 13:08.18 | prahal | honschu: man XF86Config-4 in screen section, virtual , viewport, modes |
| 13:08.18 | vaq | Hello when i try to umount a NFS harddrive i just mounted it says: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to receive umount2: Device or resource busy umount: /server1: device is busy - Im doing the umount with umount -f /server1 |
| 13:08.29 | Rock0r | hmmmm i dont know but i only can chose this dev in cupsd... |
| 13:08.38 | prahal | :)) |
| 13:08.40 | muppo | hi, i want to be able to read swedish letters in my eterm terminal, i type them in the terminal but i cant read them,the LC_CTYPE="sv_SE" is this one |
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| 13:08.55 | muppo | they show up as questionmarks |
| 13:09.04 | xk | Rock0r: so it says "usblp0"? can't you select/add /dev/usb/lp0? |
| 13:09.20 | xk | usblp0 is a file, not a device. |
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| 13:09.59 | prahal | vaq: if it was my home system i would kill mountd ... |
| 13:10.09 | xk | if you can't change it, then "cd /dev; ln -fs usb/lp0 usblp0" or lp1 |
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| 13:10.54 | Rock0r | i checked and i can only chose "usb printer#1" and so on... i try that link.. |
| 13:11.25 | asg | Esaj: /msg dpkg php5 |
| 13:11.58 | prahal | Rock0r: you should really remove usblp0 if it is a file (it may have been created by our cat ... > /dev/usblp0 tests) |
| 13:12.01 | Drevay | i <3 Google |
| 13:12.08 | Drevay | god wtf smells like uber BO |
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| 13:12.26 | asg | cat Drevay >/dev/shower |
| 13:12.28 | Rock0r | usblp0 was before these tests.. |
| 13:12.32 | Drevay | asg: haha |
| 13:12.44 | prahal | Rock0r: then it was broken :( |
| 13:12.54 | Drevay | i love degree, i swear this deoderant is the best shit for 12+ hour gaming sprees :) |
| 13:12.57 | Drevay | lasts for a day or two |
| 13:13.30 | Rock0r | yuuuhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu it works !!!!! xk you are the ruler of the world :) |
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| 13:13.37 | asg | !win xk |
| 13:13.38 | dpkg | Congratulations, xk! You have won the US presidency! |
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| 13:13.57 | prahal | nobody want this !win xk |
| 13:13.59 | xk | lol |
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| 13:15.47 | honschu | Is it possible to change the screenresolution to virtually e.g. 640x480 while the real resolution is still 1024x768 ? My 640x480 is fucked up due to the Monitor - it's streched. |
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| 13:17.00 | Rock0r | thanks to all who helped me with suggestions or direct care :) |
| 13:17.17 | Rock0r | i am hungry, good bye :) |
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| 13:18.09 | xk | honschu: minimum virtual resolution is the biggest real resolution you can do. |
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| 13:18.33 | InitMass_ | if i'm not sure which soundcard i've got in my laptop how can i check it? |
| 13:18.35 | xk | which brings me to my next question: is it possible to disable modes since modelines are automatically determined? |
| 13:18.42 | asg | InitMass_: lspci -v |
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| 13:18.58 | BadMan | morning! |
| 13:19.19 | prahal | honschu: man XF86Config-4 in screen section, virtual , viewport, mode |
| 13:19.20 | xk | it was possible with x3... since you had to give it the modelines... but x4 automatically determines it |
| 13:19.30 | BadMan | hey on sarge install, how do I get my cdrom append in botmanager like in lilo.conf? append.... |
| 13:19.32 | asg | xk: just delete the modes you don't want |
| 13:19.34 | prahal | honschu: you left before i could answer last time :/ |
| 13:19.55 | xk | asg: doesn't work - x4 automatically makes them. |
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| 13:20.06 | honschu | prahal: sry ;) |
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| 13:20.18 | asg | xk: hmmmm |
| 13:20.32 | xk | asg: you can only modify/override... but not disable (is there even a way to disable modelines?) |
| 13:20.58 | InitMass_ | asg, thanx |
| 13:21.06 | asg | xk: dunno, #xfree86 might know. |
| 13:21.07 | prahal | xk: it seems the mode parameters of screen can let you narrow the modelines |
| 13:21.09 | asg | InitMass_: you're welcome |
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| 13:22.06 | xk | prahal: hrm... I'm not sure what was my problem before |
| 13:22.15 | BadMan | Sarge installs Grub vs LiLo? How do I follow something like this page for scsi emulation for ide cdrw |
| 13:22.17 | BadMan | http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~help/unix_linux/linux/linux_cdwriter.html |
| 13:22.21 | xk | but even when I removed the modes... it still added 1600x1200 |
| 13:22.27 | xk | since I set Virtual to 1600 1200 |
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| 13:22.38 | xk | but I don't want to be able to do 1600x1200, .. just want the virtual to be that |
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| 13:23.04 | xk | I wonder what virtual screen size I can do since I have a 32meg matrox card ;) |
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| 13:23.20 | topro | hi, debian from scratch people here? |
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| 13:23.36 | BadMan | virtuals are unlimited arent they? |
| 13:23.37 | borius_ | how do I make a zip file of a dir? |
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| 13:23.51 | xk | zip? tarball? |
| 13:23.57 | xst | I have a strange problem: Whenever I reboot, the mixer settings are restored to some state it once had (weeks ago). How can I make it store its volumen config upon reboots? |
| 13:24.09 | xk | BadMan: until your graphics card ram runs out. |
| 13:24.15 | TBBle | xst: Using alsa? |
| 13:24.17 | prahal | xk: i don't know if viewport help (i had it when it worked but back then it was x 3.3 and there where no builtin modelines ...) |
| 13:24.18 | xst | Yep |
| 13:24.23 | BadMan | hmmm I guess I need to remove 1280x1024 from the xf86config.... |
| 13:24.32 | xst | Kernel 2.6.9, alsa, debian |
| 13:24.34 | xk | TBBle: yes. |
| 13:24.40 | jethro | there's nothing as good as 1920x1200 |
| 13:24.47 | borius_ | xk: no, zip |
| 13:24.55 | jethro | borius_: apt-get install zip, man zip |
| 13:25.02 | xk | borius_: zip -h |
| 13:25.09 | borius_ | xk: kthx |
| 13:25.14 | xk | I hate zip... you have to specify to recurse |
| 13:25.14 | BadMan | xk so 64mb I could get a good virtual hehe |
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| 13:25.33 | xk | BadMan: yeah. good luck navigating the whole thing :) |
| 13:25.36 | prahal | well it seems there is a bug in the alsa init script , i have the same problem (i get an error cannot store settings for ... at stop) |
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| 13:25.51 | BadMan | lol I odnt even like 1280x1024... |
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| 13:25.58 | BadMan | i like 1024x768 |
| 13:26.02 | xk | 1280x1024 is not even 4:3 |
| 13:26.03 | prahal | you can save them manually with "alsactl store" until it is fixed |
| 13:26.09 | PRO1- | how do i find out what my hdd is labled as in /dev ? |
| 13:26.17 | xk | PRO1-: dmesg| grep hd |
| 13:26.29 | borius_ | xk: dude it doesn't say how to create a zip file |
| 13:26.34 | drac | xst: dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base, and you will be asked 'bout saving options. |
| 13:26.36 | jethro | borius_: man zip ffs |
| 13:26.36 | PRO1- | thanks xk! |
| 13:26.42 | BadMan | I dont watch tv on my computer... |
| 13:26.47 | xk | borius_: yes it does... you just have to think a little bit ;) |
| 13:27.06 | xk | PRO1-: 'dmesg | grep hd.:' might be a little better. |
| 13:27.22 | xk | but it's all the same. |
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| 13:27.39 | prahal | xk : or ls "/sys/block" |
| 13:27.54 | PRO1- | xk how do i fsck the hdd it doesnt seem to want to do it when i type "fsck hda" |
| 13:28.00 | borius_ | jethro: it doesnt say |
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| 13:28.12 | prahal | ousp sorry xk |
| 13:28.15 | xk | PRO1-: you need the full path |
| 13:28.15 | BadMan | anyone help me with scsi emulation under 2.4.27 kernel with grub bootloader? |
| 13:28.15 | jethro | borius_: it does, make sure you read the whole stuff |
| 13:28.16 | yosi_ | Can someone give me a new report about the latest ati-drivers? are they something to have? can you compare ati with nvidia theese days? in unix then... |
| 13:28.23 | xk | PRO1-: eg: e2fsck /dev/hda1 |
| 13:28.25 | PRO1- | ahh |
| 13:28.26 | PRO1- | thanks |
| 13:28.41 | asg | yosi_: nvidia is apparently less braindead than ati though they are both problematic. |
| 13:28.52 | xk | PRO1-: most probably, you need the partition aswell, like hda1... unless it's a partionless drive... then you don't need the suffix (eg: without the 1) |
| 13:28.54 | asg | PRO1-: don't do that on a mounted filesystem though |
| 13:29.10 | PRO1- | ok thanks |
| 13:29.12 | yosi_ | asg: so, for my gamerfriend i should recomend a ati-card with ati-drivers? |
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| 13:29.23 | mr_claus | is therea repository available with postgres-8.0.1 for debian sarge? |
| 13:29.33 | prahal | thankfully dri start to support newer ati and a gui is making a doc of the nvidia cards (well try to) |
| 13:29.33 | asg | yosi_: for linux gaming, nvidia is currently the better option. |
| 13:29.38 | BadMan | I had to add this to lilo.conf append="hdd=ide-scsi" but now I hvae grub and dont know squat about it |
| 13:29.48 | xst | drac: Thanks, I'll try that |
| 13:29.53 | yosi_ | asg: thanks very mouch. |
| 13:30.02 | xk | BadMan: heh. edit /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 13:30.07 | jethro | BadMan: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and update-grup |
| 13:30.09 | jethro | BadMan: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and update-grub |
| 13:30.16 | xk | BadMan: see the kernel line.... add 'hdd=ide-scsi' after the kernel. |
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| 13:30.22 | xk | you need to update-grub? |
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| 13:30.31 | Drevay | hey |
| 13:30.31 | xk | what does update-grub do? |
| 13:30.33 | jethro | you do if you edit menu.lst in a smart way |
| 13:30.35 | Drevay | do i want MTRR support? |
| 13:30.39 | asg | xk: it scans for new kernels to add. |
| 13:30.43 | xk | I always edit menu.lst and reboot ;) |
| 13:30.45 | cedric | [2~ |
| 13:30.46 | prahal | BadMan: in grub you don't need the append="" part , just add hdd=ide-scsi at the end of the "kernel ..." line in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 13:30.47 | jethro | # kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro hdc=ide-scsi |
| 13:30.48 | asg | xk: if you just edit the menu.lst, it isn't required |
| 13:30.49 | PRO1- | whats the partition editor called? |
| 13:30.49 | jethro | change that line |
| 13:30.51 | cedric | woops, sorry ;) |
| 13:30.52 | Drevay | Memory Type Range Register Support |
| 13:30.52 | jethro | then update-grub |
| 13:30.55 | Drevay | do i want it or not? |
| 13:31.00 | xk | Drevay: yes. |
| 13:31.03 | Drevay | thanks |
| 13:31.16 | xk | PRO1-: fdisk, cfdisk... |
| 13:31.17 | BadMan | prahal ok thanks |
| 13:31.22 | jethro | xk: if you edit kopt and update-grub, changes won't be made if you dpkg -i a new kernel |
| 13:31.34 | xk | PRO1-: I prefer fdisk for control.... cfdisk is for ppl who like relatively fancy stuff. |
| 13:31.46 | PRO1- | right :) |
| 13:31.55 | jethro | xk: if you don't, you ll need to do that everytime you change kernel, per my personnal experience :) |
| 13:31.55 | nagual | PRO1-: on how many channels do you need to ask the same question? |
| 13:32.03 | xk | lol |
| 13:32.04 | PRO1- | do you mind takin a quick look at how i got my partitions im havin some real hdd probs |
| 13:32.25 | xk | PRO1-: fdisk -l /dev/hda, post the output to me, via /msg. |
| 13:32.34 | prahal | xk: lol ... real haX0ruse vi , lde when they are lazy |
| 13:32.54 | xk | bah @ vi. I'm a pico/nano dude ;) |
| 13:33.18 | xk | PRO1-: so what's the problem? |
| 13:33.23 | prahal | pico dye on a 40G partition device file :) |
| 13:33.24 | xk | PRO1-: are they all formatted? |
| 13:33.27 | nagual | xk: i can answer that, but i wont :) |
| 13:33.53 | BadMan | I ass ume I should add that to the "revoery" line as well? |
| 13:33.57 | xk | vi shits me ;) |
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| 13:34.12 | PRO1- | sec |
| 13:34.14 | asg | xk: :) |
| 13:34.15 | nagual | what is kopt? |
| 13:34.27 | asg | nagual: the default kernel options line in grub's menu.lst |
| 13:34.27 | jethro | nagual: read /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 13:34.35 | Drevay | make-kpkg is nice :D |
| 13:34.42 | nagual | ah thanks |
| 13:34.43 | jethro | hi asg btw |
| 13:34.48 | PRO1- | well when i booted up before it said there was no free space |
| 13:34.49 | prahal | BadMan: not really you don't often burn cdrom in recovery mode |
| 13:34.50 | asg | jethro: morning / afternoon |
| 13:34.58 | PRO1- | and when i try to read / write to some files it says it cant |
| 13:34.59 | xk | PRO1-: what does "df" say? |
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| 13:35.01 | jethro | afternoon for me :) |
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| 13:35.11 | asg | jethro: only just though |
| 13:35.12 | xk | well, no wonder. |
| 13:35.13 | Drevay | lalala |
| 13:35.24 | xk | PRO1-: you need more than 100megs for / :) |
| 13:35.25 | BadMan | bah I gotta get the sg and garbage modules loaded again..... |
| 13:35.41 | xk | PRO1-: try 1gig. |
| 13:35.43 | PRO1- | ahhh |
| 13:35.46 | prahal | jethro: thanks i did not realized |
| 13:35.53 | xk | is this a freshly installed system? |
| 13:35.56 | PRO1- | yep |
| 13:36.01 | xk | I think you should have set hda1 to /boot. |
| 13:36.03 | xk | and hda2 as / |
| 13:36.15 | Drevay | who here has an AMD proc? |
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| 13:36.19 | xk | swap is too big. |
| 13:36.21 | xk | Drevay: I do. |
| 13:36.27 | jethro | prahal: realise what? |
| 13:36.29 | Drevay | xk: what version? |
| 13:36.30 | PRO1- | right i'll start again i think |
| 13:36.42 | xk | Drevay: athlon 64 3000+, 90nm. |
| 13:36.55 | Drevay | i have AMD Athlon XP 2800+, it's pretty good, not 64 good but good for the price |
| 13:36.58 | Drevay | xk: very nice :) |
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| 13:37.23 | finrod | Good Morning. When i plug my usb mouse into my Dell Inspiron 3700 running 2.6.9, it is recognised as a HID and thus i can't use it as a mouse. does anyone know what might be wrong? |
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| 13:37.40 | xk | it loses by 20% (running at 1ghz) or so against a p4 2.4ghz :) |
| 13:37.40 | jethro | finrod: use /dev/input/mice |
| 13:37.50 | finrod | jethro: i do. does not work. |
| 13:37.50 | xk | but it owns it big time when running at full clock |
| 13:37.50 | BadMan | ok.. sg, ide-scsi and scsi-mod are loaded from lsmod but cdrecord scanbus still returns an error of: |
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| 13:38.08 | BadMan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:38.21 | mejo | hi |
| 13:38.32 | mejo | anybody using waimea as window manager? |
| 13:38.34 | xk | PRO1-: do you want a rough guide on partition layout? |
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| 13:39.04 | mejo | it looks very smart, but i didn't get it yet how to set key combinations to actions ... |
| 13:39.29 | PRO1- | please |
| 13:39.31 | PRO1- | :) |
| 13:39.38 | prahal | jethro: afternoon :P |
| 13:39.39 | nagual | hm |
| 13:39.40 | mejo | currently, it's especially moving between the four virtual x displays. |
| 13:39.50 | nagual | i think i just found a bug in the snort-mysql install script |
| 13:39.58 | mejo | yes, i have four fields in my panel for this, but doing it with <Crtl> |
| 13:40.04 | asg | nagual: 1) check the bts, 2) file a bug if non exists. |
| 13:40.10 | mejo | yes, i have four fields in my panel for this, but doing it with <Crtl>+<F?> is much faster. |
| 13:40.12 | nagual | asg: i know i should :) |
| 13:40.27 | nagual | whats bts? |
| 13:40.35 | drac | nagual: bug tracking system |
| 13:40.40 | nagual | of course |
| 13:40.47 | xk | PRO1-: I'd make / 5gigs (or include /var if you want), swap 512megs, /var 1-2 gigs, /home the rest. |
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| 13:41.16 | kayali | hello |
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| 13:42.41 | xk | PRO1-: you could make more... but it's for people who are obsessed ;) |
| 13:43.22 | BadMan | where has modconf moved to on sarge? |
| 13:43.34 | xk | modconf: /usr/sbin/modconf |
| 13:43.40 | BadMan | hmmmm |
| 13:43.55 | PRO1- | okay :) |
| 13:44.03 | PRO1- | i was just using the standard one debian chose |
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| 13:44.15 | PRO1- | but i chose the wrong one for each i think |
| 13:44.15 | BadMan | beast:/home/bill# modconf bash: modconf: command not found |
| 13:44.28 | xk | PRO1-: yeah... I think you put hda1 as / by mistake, instead of /boot ;) |
| 13:44.35 | asg | nagual: /msg dpkg bts |
| 13:44.43 | jethro | BadMan: you sure you have /usr/sbin in you path? |
| 13:44.46 | xk | PRO1-: but what I told you... should be a good layout... |
| 13:44.51 | BadMan | im root right now |
| 13:45.11 | PRO1- | ok great |
| 13:45.17 | jethro | did you use su ou 'su -' to get root BadMan ? |
| 13:45.21 | PRO1- | which should be primary and which should be logical |
| 13:45.22 | kayali | should I download the netinst cdimage, or the buisnesscard one? do they both allow me to install debian? |
| 13:45.31 | BadMan | jethro yes |
| 13:45.33 | jethro | kayali: www.debian.org |
| 13:45.35 | xk | PRO1-: since it's only 4 partitions. all primary. |
| 13:45.40 | PRO1- | okay |
| 13:45.40 | asg | kayali: yes and both require that your machine have a debian supported net connection. |
| 13:45.55 | xk | PRO1-: if it was more than 4, you'd need logical (and 3 primary max) |
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| 13:45.58 | kayali | asg: thanks |
| 13:46.02 | asg | kayali: you're welcome |
| 13:46.09 | jethro | how small is the business card one compared to netinst iso? |
| 13:46.23 | asg | jethro: 30M or so |
| 13:46.30 | jethro | ok thanks asg |
| 13:46.35 | BadMan | I guess It dont really matter since the drivers I need are listed in lsmod I dont really need to go in and readd them... |
| 13:46.37 | xk | bussiness card one is 150megs or 200. |
| 13:46.43 | xk | netinst..... back in the old days... was like 30megs. |
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| 13:46.51 | xk | but sarge-amd64 is like 120megs, heh. |
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| 13:47.10 | sussudio | old days? i have a netinst from last year that's 30MB :-| |
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| 13:47.24 | xk | sussudio: yeah? weird. does it even have base packages on it? |
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| 13:47.40 | sussudio | xk: i think it has the base.tar.gz, not sure. |
| 13:47.47 | xk | I remember there was a netinst cd that you could install and boot from the installation without a net connection |
| 13:47.58 | xk | but that is pretty much impossible with woody |
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| 13:48.06 | xk | since it's more bloated |
| 13:48.21 | calin | in any of my ctrl+alt+f# terminals, the screen is shifted about two to three characters to the left. What can I do to fix this? (I've allready tried rebooting and resetting the terminal |
| 13:48.29 | xk | hrm... who knows... I don't really like installing woody. |
| 13:48.36 | PRO1- | do i have to choose "WRITE" before i exit cfdisk? |
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| 13:48.46 | xk | PRO1-: yes. |
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| 13:48.53 | BadMan | PRO1- yeah |
| 13:49.02 | xk | PRO1-: otherwise the changes don't apply. (which is a good thing if you make a mistake and want to start over) |
| 13:49.04 | asg | calin: if there is an auto-sync button on your monitor, click that button |
| 13:49.19 | BadMan | but if you have the capability to dl and burn and iso for doing net install do the sarge rc2 netinsall |
| 13:49.41 | calin | asg: thanks |
| 13:49.49 | BadMan | I was absoluetly against it yesterday, this moring im gitty |
| 13:49.51 | BadMan | lol |
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| 13:50.48 | BadMan | I hope my hdd shows up as a friggin scsi |
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| 13:51.26 | calin | asg: but it didn't work very well |
| 13:51.30 | calin | and it's not permanent |
| 13:51.33 | asg | calin: hmmm |
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| 13:51.40 | BadMan | why does sarge use netatalk it takes so much onger to get booted.... |
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| 13:51.58 | daffy-pkf | lo |
| 13:52.16 | BadMan | I dont have any apples/macs so do I really need that? |
| 13:52.23 | PRO1- | right its made hda1 "Linux ext2" and hda2 "Linux swap" |
| 13:52.24 | xk | purge it |
| 13:52.28 | PRO1- | that ok? |
| 13:52.34 | xk | PRO1-: and the sizes? |
| 13:52.40 | PRO1- | 5gb and 512mb |
| 13:52.45 | xk | PRO1-: good... |
| 13:52.47 | BadMan | uh... |
| 13:52.50 | PRO1- | right now to install |
| 13:52.51 | PRO1- | :) |
| 13:52.53 | xk | can you choose ext3? |
| 13:52.59 | xk | well... when you format it. |
| 13:53.04 | PRO1- | yeh |
| 13:53.06 | xk | or "initialize" it. |
| 13:53.09 | xk | ok, that's good. |
| 13:53.09 | PRO1- | it will do that for me? |
| 13:53.18 | BadMan | xk what size hd is it...? |
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| 13:53.31 | xk | the same place where you can select the mount point... you can select ext2 or ext3 |
| 13:53.39 | xk | BadMan: looks like 40gig. |
| 13:53.40 | jango- | sorry, someone knows how to install grub on /dev/hda2 ? |
| 13:53.43 | BadMan | ouch |
| 13:53.55 | BadMan | only 4 parts right? |
| 13:54.00 | xk | jango-: grub-install /dev/hda2, make sure it has active boot flag on /dev/hda2 |
| 13:54.02 | calin | meh |
| 13:54.04 | xk | BadMan: yeah. |
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| 13:54.14 | xk | BadMan: no point for more partitions. |
| 13:54.27 | jango- | xk thanks...flag ok! |
| 13:54.30 | PhilMatt | Hello people :-) |
| 13:54.33 | BadMan | I have 4 on my 40GB... thats all it would let me make hehe |
| 13:54.34 | xk | I only have one more on the same drive than what I suggested |
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| 13:54.50 | BadMan | that was cfdisk sarge installer I didnt try just reset them to what I had |
| 13:54.51 | Kevin | http://www.tcpsecurity.com/ |
| 13:54.52 | xk | yeah, if it's all primary, 4 is max. |
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| 13:54.59 | BadMan | ahhhh |
| 13:54.59 | PRO1- | right its initialized the swap and linux partition do i need to initialize /var and /home before i start install? |
| 13:55.10 | xk | PRO1-: preferably, yes. |
| 13:55.16 | Drevay | bbl |
| 13:55.17 | nagual | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.18 | nagual | :) |
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| 13:55.21 | BadMan | hda 10gb 3 prim parts and hdb 40gb 4 prim parts |
| 13:55.48 | KinGicE | Can anyone tell me where the file is that I need to edit to change the resolution and how long the monitor will stay on is? |
| 13:56.01 | PRO1- | "mount failed: invalid argument" |
| 13:56.01 | xk | KinGicE: for X? |
| 13:56.15 | xk | PRO1-: did you format the other partitions? |
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| 13:56.32 | PRO1- | no |
| 13:56.34 | PRO1- | hehe |
| 13:56.40 | xk | there's the problem ;) |
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| 13:57.14 | KinGicE | just standard debian no kde or anything like that |
| 13:57.32 | PhilMatt | I´m having troubles with the SATA Controller MV88SX6041 (Marvell Techn.) . Some hints? |
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| 13:58.24 | xk | KinGicE: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4... you can change resolution there ("Modes")... not sure about monitor blanking |
| 13:58.36 | xk | same file I presume, but not sure of the option name |
| 13:58.39 | KinGicE | thx |
| 13:59.01 | green_earz | KinGicE: or you use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to change your resolution setting |
| 13:59.15 | xk | ahhh |
| 13:59.35 | xk | 'Option "BlankTime" "XX"' where XX is in minutes. |
| 13:59.44 | xk | under the monitor section |
| 14:00.19 | xk | or StandbyTime, or SuspendTime, or OffTime, if your monitor supports it |
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| 14:01.13 | Jacco | Hai peeps. |
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| 14:02.10 | scorphus | hi, what package should I install to get an X environment? |
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| 14:02.50 | xk | scorphus: a desktop environment, or just X? |
| 14:03.02 | yosi_ | Is there a special way in debian to change the gnome-loader-splashimage? |
| 14:03.15 | scorphus | xk: I've installed xfce4 but it complains that there is no X |
| 14:03.20 | Jacco | scorphus: XFree86 is a good bet. |
| 14:03.26 | green_earz | scorphus: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 14:03.28 | Jacco | And I hate X ATM. |
| 14:03.46 | KinGicE | I don't seem to have that file |
| 14:03.56 | KinGicE | .../etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 14:04.07 | scorphus | thanks, I'll try right now |
| 14:04.13 | Jacco | X owned me. |
| 14:04.21 | Jacco | :( |
| 14:04.28 | Jacco | But anyway, I'll quit griping. |
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| 14:04.41 | Jacco | I just want something where I can have multiple shells, and can toggle between them. |
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| 14:05.04 | ohgood | Jacco: x should love you long time, but if you just want shells... |
| 14:05.11 | yosi_ | &wc |
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| 14:05.18 | Jacco | ohgood: x won't run on connectix vpc. |
| 14:06.08 | BadMan | hey guys does this line look right for grub? |
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| 14:06.13 | BadMan | ./vmlinuz-2.4.27-1-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro append="hdd=ide-scsi" max_scsi_luns=1 |
| 14:06.25 | jethro | BadMan: no |
| 14:06.29 | BadMan | ? |
| 14:06.39 | BadMan | no quotes? |
| 14:06.40 | jethro | BadMan: remove append=", and " |
| 14:06.48 | BadMan | ok |
| 14:06.49 | jethro | append is an option for lilo |
| 14:06.50 | BadMan | doh |
| 14:06.55 | xk | ;) |
| 14:07.05 | G400 | oops - disconnected - did anyone reply to my Dovecot question :) ? |
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| 14:08.26 | Moo | Could you tell any hints how to install debian in to a computer with PCI ADSL modem? |
| 14:08.34 | xk | pci adsl modem? fat chance. |
| 14:08.35 | Jacco | Also, is there a way I can get ls to give me color by default? |
| 14:08.38 | Jacco | PCI? |
| 14:08.46 | Jacco | xk: what provider do you have? |
| 14:08.48 | xk | you're better off with an ethernet based dsl modem |
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| 14:08.56 | jethro | Jacco: look at your bashrc |
| 14:09.08 | Jacco | where's that, jethro? |
| 14:09.08 | xk | Jacco: /whois me, heh. |
| 14:09.09 | jethro | Jacco: and alias ls to ls --color |
| 14:09.11 | Jacco | wait, don't mind |
| 14:09.12 | Moo | I have Telewell here |
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| 14:09.26 | KinGicE | So I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and it says I don't have package xserver-xfree86 what is the package name I need then? |
| 14:09.41 | Jacco | never heard of it. |
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| 14:09.53 | xk | Moo: try google. |
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| 14:10.12 | green_earz | KinGicE: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 14:10.29 | KinGicE | thx |
| 14:10.56 | Jacco | to reload bashrc, do I need to log off of root and back on? |
| 14:11.10 | xk | Moo: some password protected (first 6 hex chars of MAC address) zip with the drivers. |
| 14:11.22 | jethro | Jacco: you can also source .bashrc |
| 14:11.23 | xk | Jacco: . <fileto bashrc> |
| 14:11.59 | jethro | xk: is . the same as sourcec? |
| 14:12.03 | xk | yeah |
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| 14:12.17 | jethro | ok |
| 14:12.22 | xk | might be some minor differences... but it's the same as far as I know. |
| 14:12.24 | Moo | xk: ? |
| 14:12.36 | Jacco | xk: what that do? |
| 14:12.38 | scorphus | is there a way to ignore these users who send porn pvt messages? |
| 14:12.52 | xk | Moo: there is some driver available... but you won't be able to install debian with a network connection until you install a basic setup, heh. |
| 14:12.56 | jethro | Jacco: 'source .bashrc' or logoff/login as you said |
| 14:13.03 | kernix | when I'm at full screen mode in xdosemu the fonts get screwed up. any ideas why and how to fix it ? |
| 14:13.06 | xk | scorphus: who spammed you? on this channel? |
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| 14:13.51 | scorphus | xk: 2 users, a couple minutes ago... can't remember the nick |
| 14:13.57 | paulswm | scorphus: umode +E |
| 14:14.07 | paulswm | scorphus: /umode +E |
| 14:14.12 | PRO1- | xk thanks alot mate!!! |
| 14:14.14 | PRO1- | works a treat an now i understand a little better about debian and partitions |
| 14:14.30 | xk | scorphus: /lastlog <string you remmeber they spammed you> |
| 14:14.31 | paulswm | scorphus: will prevent unregistered nicks from msging you, I believe |
| 14:14.34 | xk | PRO1-: cool! :) |
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| 14:15.10 | scorphus | xk: one of them was RcDpF |
| 14:15.21 | cast | just so i dont make a ass of myself in this email...nothing in debian can play windows media audio or realaudio right? |
| 14:15.26 | xk | hrm... *.tr |
| 14:15.54 | BadMan | I miss lilo..... |
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| 14:15.57 | ohgood | cast: mplayer can... you can dump to raw, or wav, whatever |
| 14:16.05 | pureone | xine can |
| 14:16.06 | cast | ohgood: but mplayer isnt in debian. |
| 14:16.06 | xk | scorphus: must have been a while ago. |
| 14:16.20 | xk | BadMan: lilo is crap. grub all the way. |
| 14:16.28 | scorphus | xk: both are already out |
| 14:16.43 | ohgood | cast: color me shocked.. just downloading an iso now... it is possible to compile mplayer on debian, no ? :| |
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| 14:16.56 | xk | heh, I couldn't upgrade grub on my old system. |
| 14:16.58 | BadMan | yea.. I heard that long ago, but It was easier to setup my burner last night when it had lilo no I can find it on cdrecord -scanbus no matter what I do.... |
| 14:17.01 | xk | it just didn't work. |
| 14:17.03 | jethro | ohgood: of course it is |
| 14:17.16 | cast | ohgood: you dont understand the background to my question |
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| 14:17.34 | xk | mplayer will be packaged/included in debian soon |
| 14:17.47 | cast | really? mplayer has IP issues |
| 14:17.53 | ferrus | what would i use to open a .ace file? |
| 14:17.55 | xk | cast: that's been finally fixed. |
| 14:17.59 | xk | ferrus: unace. |
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| 14:18.03 | ferrus | thank you |
| 14:18.08 | omlette | i have a problem with my sound... i've got a soundblaster audigy 2 and i get the error "device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device)" |
| 14:18.12 | ohgood | xk: nice to know, should i just wait a month or so befor trying then ? |
| 14:18.14 | xk | cast: everything been accounted for, and decss stuff removed. |
| 14:18.29 | tootall | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:18.33 | cast | well now, will that mplayer be able to play rm/wma? |
| 14:18.35 | xk | let me get the link |
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| 14:18.56 | scorphus | paulswm: NickServ returns a message '...services. sets mode +e scorphus', is it setting +e for my user? |
| 14:19.01 | xk | rm/wma... most probably... might need to install the dll files. |
| 14:19.04 | BadMan | what in the friggin heck is going on! |
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| 14:19.30 | BadMan | I have edited menu.1st 4 times and still at boot I dont have the edited lines in my menu.1st.... |
| 14:19.30 | xk | http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/sarge/ |
| 14:19.38 | cast | this is the purpose of my questioning: is it possible to play rm/wma on a totally free [or as much as is possible] system? |
| 14:19.41 | xk | ^^ they'll be uploaded to debian rsn |
| 14:20.02 | xk | http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/02/msg00175.html |
| 14:20.08 | xk | for reference. |
| 14:20.08 | BadMan | I save the file(nano editor) w/ ctrl+o |
| 14:20.11 | paulswm | scorphus: yes, but I said +E, see topic |
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| 14:20.52 | scorphus | paulswm: hmm... thanks |
| 14:21.06 | PRO1- | once i've installed proftpd how do i start it, and also do i need to make a file for it to run on startup (like on bsd) |
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| 14:21.10 | paulswm | scorphus: yw |
| 14:21.15 | PRO1- | oh its running |
| 14:21.15 | PRO1- | hehe |
| 14:21.21 | ohgood | cast: suppose i break some rules to play media, sorry. |
| 14:21.25 | xk | PRO1-: better off with vsftpd |
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| 14:21.38 | xk | PRO1-: things in debian should automatically run on start and on installation. |
| 14:21.49 | PRO1- | why cant bsd be this easy |
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| 14:21.55 | cast | im writing a email to the ABC about their choice of streaming radio formats, :) |
| 14:22.01 | xk | because bsd is living in the dark ages, like slackware ;) |
| 14:22.08 | BadMan | should I include both cdroms as scsi ? |
| 14:22.15 | xk | cast: ahh. you're an aussie aswell ;) |
| 14:22.16 | BadMan | or just the write.. |
| 14:22.19 | PRO1- | :) right i think im all set now!! |
| 14:22.29 | Rocco | anybody here with a centrino?? |
| 14:22.32 | ohgood | cast: been there, done that. they're planning a re-vamp of there interfaces too, iirc. doubt they'll be any more 'free' with it though :( |
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| 14:22.36 | cast | new zealander ;) |
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| 14:22.47 | cast | in au for the time being though |
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| 14:22.56 | xk | ahh, fair enough ;) |
| 14:22.58 | omlette | no one has any idea how to fix this sound issue? :/ |
| 14:23.12 | cast | ohgood: still, one more complaint letter couldnt possibly do any harm. they do have to read all these things as i understand it |
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| 14:23.38 | ohgood | cast: aye |
| 14:24.07 | Rocco | anybody here with a centrino?? |
| 14:24.09 | BadMan | um what in the world... |
| 14:24.12 | xk | centrino!?!?!?!? |
| 14:24.15 | xk | pentium m you mean? |
| 14:24.20 | Rocco | yes |
| 14:24.24 | xk | ask your question. |
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| 14:24.33 | lenox | ciao a tutti |
| 14:24.35 | xk | otherwise no one cares about your vagueness. |
| 14:24.36 | lenox | come va |
| 14:24.36 | lenox | ? |
| 14:24.36 | iNeo | when loading my bcm5700 module, the Ethernet MAC address is ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff |
| 14:24.37 | BadMan | after I do update-grub it remove the stuff I added and returns it to the state it was in when I opened it for editing? |
| 14:24.42 | Rocco | have some troubles with cpufreq / cpudyn |
| 14:24.46 | lenox | hi |
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| 14:24.57 | Thargor | is ide_generic an obsolete version of ide-generic? |
| 14:25.00 | iNeo | Someone any idea |
| 14:25.04 | xk | Rocco: loaded the appropriate modules? |
| 14:25.18 | Rocco | what are these? |
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| 14:25.22 | jethro | BadMan: that's why you need to use kopt |
| 14:25.29 | BadMan | kopt? |
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| 14:25.40 | jethro | see the kopt line in menu.lst |
| 14:25.46 | BadMan | kde front end for something... |
| 14:25.47 | jethro | that's where you append you stuff |
| 14:25.48 | xk | like... hrm... cpufreq_userspace freq_table |
| 14:26.04 | xk | Rocco: find /lib/`uname -r` | grep freq |
| 14:26.11 | BadMan | ok well earlier evryone was telling me to add it at end of kernel line |
| 14:26.12 | xk | Rocco: find a centrino/intel one. |
| 14:26.24 | jethro | no it's not a kde frontend, it's where debian expects you to set generic kernel options you'd use with every linux kernel you use on your debian system |
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| 14:26.33 | Rocco | it worked until today. i've changed nothing. on booting, it is started without any troubles, but it doesn't slow down the frequency |
| 14:26.34 | jethro | BadMan: I said kopt ages ago |
| 14:26.43 | jethro | 14:30:48 jethro | # kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro hdc=ide-scsi |
| 14:26.44 | xk | or install powernowd (works for all CPUs that can change clock) |
| 14:26.49 | BadMan | sorry I must have missed it |
| 14:26.49 | jethro | and it's 15:26 here now :) |
| 14:27.04 | xk | Rocco: wouldn't know... I just know powernowd and requirements for modules. |
| 14:27.06 | jethro | keep the leading # |
| 14:27.09 | jethro | and run update-grub |
| 14:27.20 | Thargor | is ide_generic an obsolete version of ide-generic? |
| 14:27.21 | xk | Rocco: first thing is to find the problem ;) avoiding it won't help. |
| 14:27.25 | Rocco | xk: i cant install powernowd as i dont have the cd. it is not downloadable per apt-get |
| 14:27.32 | jethro | and run update-grub |
| 14:27.34 | jethro | oops |
| 14:27.37 | Rocco | xk: right ;) |
| 14:27.38 | xk | Thargor: it's just named like that on 2.6.x... it changes - to _ |
| 14:27.41 | Kvant | =root= |
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| 14:27.55 | xk | Rocco: but... first place I'd look is at the modules. |
| 14:28.00 | scorphus | xk: got another spam from Bulpurxss |
| 14:28.01 | xk | Rocco: lsmod| grep freq |
| 14:28.09 | BadMan | jethro though "#" commented stuff out, will it read that with leading "#"? |
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| 14:28.17 | jethro | BadMan: yes |
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| 14:28.27 | jethro | BadMan: what I copied earlier was my own kopt line |
| 14:28.29 | Jacco | o.o |
| 14:28.31 | BadMan | ok will tr it... I'll try just about anything now! |
| 14:28.33 | scorphus | /UMODE +E didn't seem to work thou |
| 14:28.34 | Jacco | what's with teh ban? |
| 14:28.37 | BadMan | mines same just hdd |
| 14:28.42 | Thargor | xk: how can i force my kernel not to try to load ide_generic? |
| 14:28.43 | xk | Jacco: spammer. |
| 14:28.44 | *** mode/#Debian [-o xk] by xk |
| 14:28.55 | Jacco | ah. |
| 14:28.57 | Jacco | k. |
| 14:29.06 | Jacco | How do I leave su? |
| 14:29.06 | xk | Thargor: hrm... do you have hotplug installed? |
| 14:29.16 | Thargor | xk: yes |
| 14:29.21 | iNeo | Thargor: or discover |
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| 14:29.28 | Thargor | xk: shall i blacklist? |
| 14:29.29 | BadMan | jethro: cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 14:29.35 | xk | Thargor: add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist |
| 14:29.43 | BadMan | Jacco exit |
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| 14:29.57 | jethro | BadMan: of course you need to reboot to change kernel parameters you give at boot time |
| 14:30.02 | Jacco | okay. |
| 14:30.03 | BadMan | bah hehe |
| 14:30.03 | Jacco | gewd. |
| 14:30.06 | Jacco | it reloaded the file. |
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| 14:30.12 | Jacco | Now, is there a way I can make... |
| 14:30.16 | Jacco | well, take this for example. |
| 14:30.29 | Jacco | debian:/cdrom/_gservernwsrc/gservernwsrc |
| 14:30.31 | Jacco | # |
| 14:30.35 | Thargor | xk: can i do this with all ide_* stuff? |
| 14:30.44 | xk | Thargor: yes... but make sure you don't need it |
| 14:30.49 | Jacco | Is there a way I can make debian yellow, the filepath green, and the # red? |
| 14:31.07 | BadMan | ok its rebooting now... |
| 14:31.34 | PRO1- | how do i delete all mail? |
| 14:31.44 | BadMan | aha i seen it! |
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| 14:31.51 | Jacco | Eh... |
| 14:31.53 | Jacco | so, is that possible? |
| 14:31.57 | Jacco | K-lined?? |
| 14:31.59 | Jacco | o_O |
| 14:32.06 | Jacco | 1st time I've seen that quit msg. |
| 14:32.07 | pngwn | Jacco, you mean a multi-color prompt? |
| 14:32.09 | Jacco | Yes. |
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| 14:32.24 | Thargor | xk: i haven't even got these modules, so it shouldnt be a problem to blacklist them ^^ |
| 14:32.25 | BadMan | yeah I kinda miss the tty color options... made find files easier |
| 14:32.32 | pngwn | got to tldp.org and read the bash howto |
| 14:32.38 | Thargor | xk: always get a Fatal module not found |
| 14:32.49 | xk | Thargor: weird. check /etc/modules |
| 14:32.53 | xk | Thargor: they must be listed there. |
| 14:33.09 | Jacco | okay. |
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| 14:34.35 | Thargor | xk: there are only the ide-generic and ide-cdrom modules listed |
| 14:34.50 | xk | Thargor: remove those, if they bother you. |
| 14:34.59 | xk | instead of blacklisting them via hotplug |
| 14:35.09 | BadMan | pngwn what that about the colored deal like -color=always option |
| 14:35.15 | takatumi | "ntpdate[31515]: adjust time server 213.239.194.210 offset 0.156712 sec" This seems to be working right, but the time still seems to be off by a few minutes, (14:42 UTC now) what could be wrong? |
| 14:35.46 | Jacco | BadMan: That works. |
| 14:35.51 | Jacco | but you have to enter it manually. |
| 14:35.54 | Jacco | And that's only for ls. |
| 14:35.57 | Thargor | xk: i need ide-generic, but i don't ide_generic, and ide_generic isn't listed there but the kernel tries to load it on startup |
| 14:36.01 | BadMan | yeah I want it as a constant option hehe |
| 14:36.22 | BadMan | btw cdrecord -scanbus returns my rwable thanks |
| 14:36.22 | xk | Thargor: it's the same thing, I think. |
| 14:36.43 | xk | modules in 2.6.x are with _. |
| 14:36.48 | xk | whereas 2.4.x has them with - |
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| 14:37.53 | Jacco | Bleh. |
| 14:38.01 | Jacco | This bash tutorial seems to require an x server. |
| 14:38.05 | Thargor | I'm running only 2.6.11 and 2.6.10 |
| 14:38.17 | solars | hi, I installed libtrash, and loaded it with LD_PRELOAD, its in the env, but files are still deleted normally, does anyone know what this could be? |
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| 14:39.40 | paster | "thargor" at 62.47.152.203 pasted "ide_generic" (5 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/315 |
| 14:40.07 | Thargor | what shal i do? |
| 14:40.33 | BadMan | what are the new samba and sway ports...? smaba at 10000 and swat at 901? |
| 14:40.42 | BadMan | er sway/swat |
| 14:40.59 | takatumi | Thargor: its either /etc/modules or hotplug or discover |
| 14:41.02 | xk | Thargor: that is _weird_ |
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| 14:42.21 | scorphus | Thanks for the help with X, people! apt-get install x-window-system-core and I got X running |
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| 14:44.24 | f0ssi | hi.. |
| 14:44.27 | Thargor | takatumi: ide_generic is'nt in /etc/modules and the hotplug subsystem start after it tries to load the module |
| 14:44.55 | takatumi | Thargor: and no discover1? |
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| 14:45.46 | BadMan | ok my mousewheel is dead.... didnt even notice! |
| 14:45.49 | iNeo | Thargor: edit /etc/discover.conf en skip ide_generic |
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| 14:46.13 | PRO1- | whats the best tool to monitor system temp while the server is running |
| 14:46.26 | xk | PRO1-: lm-sensors |
| 14:46.40 | Thargor | habent got discover |
| 14:46.41 | xk | install it, then "sensors-detect" follow it. |
| 14:46.59 | takatumi | PRO1-: if you are using acpi, /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature will show it as well. |
| 14:47.21 | PRO1- | cool ok |
| 14:47.52 | takatumi | Thargor: the package name is discover1, dpkg -l discover1 just to be sure. |
| 14:47.53 | PRO1- | when i put the panel on this 1u case the cpu temp shoots up |
| 14:47.55 | famagosta | hi. just used make-kpkg to recompile a 2.4.27 with minor changes. i dpkg'ed -i it, but it always gives me a kernel panic upon boot: VFS: can't mount root file system. any ideas? i noticed that i have no initrd....using the old obviously don't work...where could i get one from? |
| 14:49.01 | takatumi | famagosta: man make-kpkg look at --initrd or compile the required drivers static and lose the initrd requirement. |
| 14:49.15 | Thargor | famagosta: get your ide/scsi drivers compiled static |
| 14:49.20 | drac | famagosta: you don't need initrd if you compile your filesystem support and ide/scsi support buildin. |
| 14:49.49 | famagosta | right! thanks for the quick help |
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| 14:51.49 | Jacco | Where do I put shell scripts that I want to load on login? |
| 14:52.13 | xk | lol @ signoff |
| 14:52.15 | xk | that fucked up bitchx |
| 14:52.17 | Jacco | xD |
| 14:52.28 | *** mode/#Debian [+o xk] by ChanServ |
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| 14:52.35 | takatumi | xk: bitchx does utf8 quit msgs? |
| 14:52.36 | Jacco | who's that? |
| 14:52.49 | xk | whoever signed off with that borked message ;) |
| 14:52.52 | xk | stuffed up my terminal |
| 14:52.53 | Jacco | XD |
| 14:53.01 | Jacco | you're banning someone for a quit msg? lol |
| 14:53.04 | xk | there we go |
| 14:53.22 | Jacco | You also banned the wrong address, methinks. |
| 14:53.24 | Thargor | Jacco: ~/.bash_profile |
| 14:53.35 | Jacco | Optical was ~dlz@60.188.61.37 * Chaifeng |
| 14:53.35 | Jacco | Optical using irc.freenode.net Sat Mar 5 09:12:33 2005 |
| 14:53.37 | Jacco | Ah. |
| 14:53.37 | xk | brb |
| 14:53.38 | Jacco | nevermind |
| 14:53.39 | Jacco | k |
| 14:53.43 | Jacco | thanks, Thargor. |
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| 14:54.36 | Jacco | okay, my shell script is ownt. |
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| 14:55.01 | Jacco | lol. |
| 14:55.16 | Jacco | *radio crackle* the ROOT has landed */crackle* |
| 14:55.20 | xk | ;) |
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| 14:55.29 | takatumi | xk: http://gpoppy.org/2005-03-05-180006_1024x768_scrot.png, he doesn't deserve a ban unless that translates to something nasty :P |
| 14:55.49 | f0ssi | hey i got some problems with my "autostart" |
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| 14:56.01 | xk | takatumi: :) |
| 14:56.02 | Jacco | hat IRC client is that? |
| 14:56.05 | Jacco | *what |
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| 14:56.25 | Jacco | ah. |
| 14:56.29 | takatumi | Jacco: irssi-text |
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| 14:56.34 | Jacco | What's the file that contains the data of the commands you entered? |
| 14:56.41 | Jacco | ROOOOOOOOT! |
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| 14:56.45 | Gnurdux | is sarge going to get GNOME 2.10 when it comes out, or is it completely frozen? |
| 14:56.46 | Jacco | lol |
| 14:56.46 | xk | takatumi: what language is it? japanese? chinese? |
| 14:56.55 | TBBle | Chinese. |
| 14:56.56 | Jacco | xk: I think chines |
| 14:56.58 | takatumi | xk: no idea :) |
| 14:56.59 | Jacco | *chinese |
| 14:57.01 | TBBle | Came through fine here, but I'm also on irssi-text. |
| 14:57.07 | Gnurdux | ~/.bash_history |
| 14:57.09 | undertow | had to try |
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| 14:57.13 | Jacco | thankj00. |
| 14:57.19 | Gnurdux | i think |
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| 14:57.36 | Gnurdux | ? |
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| 14:58.25 | Jacco | okau. |
| 14:58.29 | Jacco | *okay |
| 14:58.34 | Jacco | my shell script is royally owned. |
| 14:58.38 | Jacco | but not by kings. |
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| 14:58.45 | Gnurdux | will sarge incorporate GNOME 2.10 in the next month, or only Sid? |
| 14:59.08 | Nosf3ratu | I'm getting a lot of timeouts in postfix after a reinstall and then restoring a backup. |
| 14:59.11 | Nosf3ratu | Mar 5 09:57:06 localhost postfix/smtp[13418]: connect to mx2.mail.yahoo.com[67.28.114.36]: Connection timed out (port 25) |
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| 14:59.23 | Nosf3ratu | local delivery seems to work, but not outbound. |
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| 14:59.43 | Nosf3ratu | if /etc/postfix is a restore of what it was before...what could be causing this? |
| 14:59.57 | sussudio | Nosf3ratu: bunnies? |
| 15:00.15 | Nosf3ratu | :( |
| 15:00.19 | Jacco | PS1="\[\033[1;34m\] [\$(date +%H%M)] [\[033[1;32m\] [\033[1;31m\\u@\h:\w\033[1;32m]\[\033[1;33m\]#[\[\033[0m\] " |
| 15:00.28 | Jacco | It looks fine. |
| 15:00.31 | Jacco | until i hit up |
| 15:00.35 | Jacco | or type in something that's too long. |
| 15:00.48 | Jacco | then, the prompt flies around the screen like a frisbee. |
| 15:00.50 | Nosf3ratu | You probably have an unterminated escape sequence, Jacco. |
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| 15:00.55 | xk | Jacco: bash is borked when it comes to ansi. that's why I use tcsh :) |
| 15:01.10 | Jacco | but this was in a bash howto! :( |
| 15:01.21 | xk | yeahm whoever wrote it didn't think of the stupid bug that exists in bash |
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| 15:01.31 | xk | "omg, works in putty" |
| 15:01.36 | Jacco | ... |
| 15:01.37 | Jacco | lol. |
| 15:01.38 | xk | but does it work in xterm, no way. |
| 15:02.00 | Nosf3ratu | sussudio, is postfix overkill for sending local mail and minor little cron/perl output to external domains? |
| 15:02.09 | lucox | hi all, what file format is this : (for example) :http://ftp.sk.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz when it is not gzip created .... how it is created ... ? |
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| 15:02.20 | sussudio | Nosf3ratu: *shrug* |
| 15:02.29 | Nosf3ratu | i don't know anything about mta's :\ |
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| 15:03.17 | Jacco | ;x |
| 15:03.29 | Jacco | variable name must contain alphanumeric characters. |
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| 15:05.14 | BadMan | I have a ps/2 optical scroll mouse should I select ps/2 type mouse... |
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| 15:05.25 | BadMan | seems last round it didnt like my wheel |
| 15:05.46 | xk | select... imps2 if you want mouse wheel |
| 15:05.51 | BadMan | ok |
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| 15:06.10 | Robusto | where do i download debian? |
| 15:06.29 | ferrus | debian.org |
| 15:06.33 | BadMan | http://www.debian.org |
| 15:06.34 | xk | Robusto: www.debian.org/mirror/ |
| 15:07.05 | Jacco | lol |
| 15:07.07 | Robusto | whats the last release? |
| 15:07.07 | Jacco | that was fast. |
| 15:07.11 | Jacco | lemme see. |
| 15:07.23 | Jacco | nope, nevamind |
| 15:07.26 | BadMan | wierd it hung at shutdown -r while messing wih hotplug .... |
| 15:07.30 | Jacco | Hmm... |
| 15:07.32 | Jacco | where'd it hang? |
| 15:07.45 | BadMan | whie udoing th hotplug stuff |
| 15:07.53 | Jacco | Ah. |
| 15:07.57 | Jacco | paste the line. |
| 15:08.05 | scarynetworkguy | !tell carlos|bath about away |
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| 15:08.10 | Thargor | Robusto: the latest release or the latest stable release? |
| 15:08.13 | BadMan | Robusto I just got the sarge i386 last night and did net install over evening |
| 15:08.19 | Robusto | latest |
| 15:08.25 | takatumi | Robusto: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 15:08.28 | BadMan | Jacco cant i didnt have putty termial up and it hung on main box |
| 15:08.44 | Jacco | ah. |
| 15:08.45 | Jacco | lol. |
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| 15:08.52 | Thargor | Robusto: experimental, but you should start with sarge |
| 15:08.53 | BadMan | no big deal.. |
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| 15:09.15 | Robusto | im comming from slackware i need something easy to start |
| 15:09.30 | Jacco | Ah. |
| 15:09.36 | Jacco | I came from windows. XD |
| 15:09.49 | Jacco | Linux is fun, though. |
| 15:09.53 | Thargor | I came from windows too, just try sarge |
| 15:10.02 | Jacco | what _is_ sarge, anyway? |
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| 15:10.16 | Thargor | testing release :-P |
| 15:10.35 | takatumi | Jacco: /msg dpkg releases |
| 15:10.35 | Jacco | Ah. |
| 15:10.36 | Jacco | lol. |
| 15:10.36 | BadMan | no hang on reboot that itme... must have been a quirk |
| 15:10.59 | Robusto | yup ill keep using slack on the other pc... but its so hard to configure my alcatel USB on slack 10.1 that i decided to change the flavor |
| 15:11.22 | BadMan | I see this missing driver module during boot, what does it relate to? pciehp |
| 15:11.37 | Jacco | gaarg! |
| 15:12.19 | Robusto | holy shit how many cds it is? |
| 15:12.25 | Jacco | 5 |
| 15:12.29 | Jacco | Nah, j/k. |
| 15:12.36 | BadMan | depends woody is 7cd set... |
| 15:12.47 | Thargor | if you got fast internet connection just install the netinstall |
| 15:12.54 | BadMan | but if you get sarge netinstall for your arch its only 1 cd about 100+mb |
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| 15:13.31 | takatumi | Robusto: you usually just need a 110MB iso, but with your USB modem, *shrug*. |
| 15:13.41 | Thargor | lol, he left |
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| 15:14.56 | Jacco | BadMan: Isn't woody a netinstall? |
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| 15:15.50 | SpamHog | yes but one has to use a "3rd party" image |
| 15:17.10 | Jacco | ah. |
| 15:17.12 | Jacco | l3l. |
| 15:17.29 | Jacco | I R confus3d. |
| 15:17.57 | Thargor | there are no official netinstall images for woody |
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| 15:19.01 | BadMan | Jacco I dont know I had the 7cd set hne I done woody(bought it as I didnt have dsl @ the time) then I got dsl and dl'd sarge netsinall for 386 and did it over nigth |
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| 15:19.13 | Jacco | Ah. |
| 15:19.14 | Jacco | lol. |
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| 15:20.35 | madduck | has anyone here set up pppoe-server? the client is always timing out sending config-requests... |
| 15:21.01 | madduck | the server receives them, but the ones sent by the server apparently never make it to the client. |
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| 15:26.11 | Alleria_ | I'm running sarge and upgraded etherconf to 1.17-0.1, and now I'm getting an error: |
| 15:26.18 | Alleria_ | dpkg: error processing etherconf (--configure): |
| 15:26.18 | Alleria_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:26.34 | Alleria_ | I've already tried reconfiguring, and dpkg always fails out with this. Any suggestions? |
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| 15:27.20 | Alleria_ | all of this is after etherconf talks to the DHCP server and gets me my IP regardless. |
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| 15:27.22 | madduck | Alleria_: sed -i -e '1aset -x' /var/lib/dpkg/info/etherconf.postinst |
| 15:27.24 | madduck | then try again. |
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| 15:27.30 | bogon | Alleria_: check the bts, maybe this problem has already been reported or even fixed in unstable |
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| 15:28.53 | Alleria_ | madduck: doh. now the error is bigger. I'll post in #flood? |
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| 15:29.05 | Mrkjo | hi all |
| 15:29.10 | Alleria_ | bogon: hrm, good idea... |
| 15:29.19 | madduck | Alleria_: just paste to http://rafb.net/paste |
| 15:29.28 | madduck | #flood is painful. |
| 15:29.41 | Mrkjo | who install debian from hd? i try loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/ram initrd=boot.img but dont go :/ |
| 15:29.49 | Mrkjo | i install from msdos partition |
| 15:30.01 | Mrkjo | any how to in to internet? |
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| 15:30.27 | Mrkjo | i prefere install from 2.6 image is possible? |
| 15:30.37 | Nijan | Hello, does exist something in mozilla do the work of wget? (downloading all the link in a page recursively) |
| 15:31.00 | Alleria_ | madduck: http://rafb.net/paste/results/G0FTg798.html |
| 15:31.10 | BR_ | can someone remove fetchmail from debian just because its dumb? :) |
| 15:31.11 | nkuttler | Nijan: i think there are plugins for firefox to do that |
| 15:31.34 | takatumi | Nijan: maybe look at flashgot extension, dunno if it works in linux though. |
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| 15:32.06 | xabier98 | hi |
| 15:32.33 | madduck | Alleria_: uh, sorry... it's a perl script... |
| 15:32.48 | bogon | :> |
| 15:32.49 | madduck | Alleria_: sed -i -e 2d /var/lib/dpkg/info/etherconf.postinst |
| 15:32.53 | xabier98 | how can i redirect conections to port 80 on 192.168.0.1 to port 80 on 192.168.0.2 |
| 15:33.19 | madduck | xabier98: iptables -t nat -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.2:80 |
| 15:33.32 | madduck | xabier98: iptables -t nat -d 192.168.0.1/32 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.2:80 |
| 15:33.44 | Nijan | http://downthemall.mozdev.org/ |
| 15:33.58 | xabier98 | thanks madduck |
| 15:34.01 | Alleria_ | madduck: thanks, that put it back to the way it was... |
| 15:34.35 | madduck | Alleria_: i know. :) |
| 15:34.51 | madduck | you'll have to figure out where the script fails. |
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| 15:34.58 | madduck | did you check the BTS? |
| 15:35.11 | Alleria_ | madduck: I'm looking through it. |
| 15:35.27 | madduck | "printf debugging |
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| 15:35.40 | Alleria_ | madduck: I know I made hand-edits to /etc/network/interfaces, but always OUTSIDE the etherconf-demarcated area. |
| 15:35.45 | Alleria_ | grr |
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| 15:35.52 | Alleria_ | anyway, I'll keep looking. Thanks! :-) |
| 15:36.32 | madduck | good luck; bye. |
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| 15:38.39 | Mrkjo | ih possible install debian from hd? |
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| 15:39.29 | Drizzt321 | I'm having trouble getting sound out of my card with alsa. its an nforce2 with the right drivers loaded, /proc/asound/cards shows its detected, and now I can't get any sound out. and nobody seems to be alive in #alsa |
| 15:39.46 | takatumi | Drizzt321: unmuted? |
| 15:39.55 | Drizzt321 | takatumi: yup, already checked that |
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| 15:40.02 | Putiikki | Shorewall's "DropPing" won't work, how to fix it? |
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| 15:41.13 | doublehp | at boot time I am said that ppp_on_boot is deprecahed ... I cant find any example of network/interfaces to configure ppp in there ... any one can help ? |
| 15:41.15 | Drizzt321 | takatumi: and its not the headphones I have plugged in, I've tried 2 pairs of known working |
| 15:41.15 | Jacco | What's nohup? |
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| 15:42.10 | proctologiste | where would i be able to find the debian-patched 2.6.9-2-386 kernel headers? |
| 15:42.18 | proctologiste | it's not in the apt repos |
| 15:42.18 | trueno | Is there a way to use ntfsclone to clone a partition in a remote computer which does not have installed? |
| 15:42.24 | Jacco | ;x |
| 15:42.26 | Jacco | nohup.... |
| 15:42.32 | takatumi | Drizzt321: the only other thing that comes to mind is to blacklist the oss modules, but I heard this issue was fixed. |
| 15:42.45 | Drizzt321 | takatumi: hrm |
| 15:43.09 | BadMan | btw ImPS/2 worked mouse wheel is back in action.... |
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| 15:44.10 | xoz | Jacco: nohup <prog> & runs a program in the background and keeps running even if you logout frm the terminal |
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| 15:44.13 | Jacco | Ah. |
| 15:44.14 | Jacco | How do |
| 15:44.17 | Jacco | I kill it? |
| 15:44.23 | Jacco | the program, that is? |
| 15:44.43 | d_ | anyone able to help with xmms prob |
| 15:44.46 | pureone | man kill |
| 15:44.58 | takatumi | Drizzt321: /msg dpkg blacklist, won't hurt to try. |
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| 15:45.09 | proctologiste | Jacco: killall [name of process] |
| 15:45.10 | Jacco | pureone: k |
| 15:45.19 | Drizzt321 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.23 | Drizzt321 | doh |
| 15:45.27 | Jacco | thank you. |
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| 15:45.32 | clcont | hi fellas!! |
| 15:45.35 | valdyn_ | doublehp: iface ppp0 inet ppp \ provider dsl-provider |
| 15:45.35 | Drizzt321 | takatumi: I'll give it a shot |
| 15:45.46 | xabier98 | how can i redirect conections to port 80 on 192.168.0.1 to port 80 on 192.168.0.2 |
| 15:45.57 | Mrkjo | i need help install debian from hardisk |
| 15:46.00 | Jacco | a router? |
| 15:46.01 | valdyn_ | doublehp: and an ppropriate auto ppp0 entry, if you want |
| 15:46.04 | Mrkjo | any how to on internet? |
| 15:46.05 | Putiikki | d_: tell what kind of problem it is, helping is then easier |
| 15:46.07 | doublehp | valdyn_: then ifconfig ppp0 up says: no such interface |
| 15:46.18 | valdyn_ | doublehp: ifup ppp0 |
| 15:46.21 | gnufan | testing, recent mozilla-thunderbird update, started running "gedit" for everything after I picked the GNOME app choice in the configure dialog. Manually edited /etc/mozilla-thunderbird/global-config.js to default to firefox as a work around. Bug or just my config? |
| 15:46.35 | takatumi | Drizzt321: and try alsamixer to ensure that it's unmuted and the volume turned up. |
| 15:46.38 | proctologiste | anyone know where i could get the kernel-headers-2.6.9-2-386 deb? |
| 15:46.58 | LonEagle | does anyone build their own kernel here that uses LVM for their root partition? i can boot fine off with the debian-installed kernel but not the 2.6.11 i just built with make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image |
| 15:46.59 | Drizzt321 | takatumi: yea, checked those a couple of times already |
| 15:47.01 | d_ | proctologiste: you looking for a specific mirror? |
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| 15:47.11 | proctologiste | gnufan: try running update-alternatives as root |
| 15:47.12 | doublehp | valdyn_: lets reboot :) |
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| 15:47.34 | proctologiste | d_: well, it's not on the MIT mirror, which i'm using. could it be on other mirrors? |
| 15:47.36 | drac | proctologiste: are you sure you don't want kernel-image-2.6.10-1-386 with kernel-headers-2.6.10-1-386? (or replace 386 with your cpu) |
| 15:48.01 | xk | hrm. |
| 15:48.03 | proctologiste | drac: i could update my kernel, i guess. i was just looking for headers to match my current kernel |
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| 15:48.08 | proctologiste | i need for vmware to work |
| 15:48.14 | proctologiste | i need the headers* |
| 15:48.22 | d_ | proctologiste: yes check debian's many mirrors, depending on the mirror certain ones have different stuff |
| 15:48.51 | d_ | proctologiste: also try apt-cache search kernel-headers-2.6.9-2-386 |
| 15:48.54 | proctologiste | i think i'll just update my kernel. with 2.6.10, instead. might as well. |
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| 15:49.06 | proctologiste | d_: already did that. |
| 15:49.22 | d_ | proctologiste: no clue then, 2.6.10 works great! |
| 15:49.24 | takatumi | proctologiste: tried http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
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| 15:50.00 | d_ | anyone able to help with XMMS? |
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| 15:50.42 | gnufan | proctologiste: update-alternative with what plan? I think it should be using the GNOME default apps not expecting a hardcoded default in a global location. Not sure how I tell that to update-alternatives ? |
| 15:50.52 | schizoschaf | !swing |
| 15:50.53 | dpkg | hmm... swing is a GUI API for java |
| 15:51.12 | Jacco | Hey |
| 15:51.18 | Jacco | I have a problem. |
| 15:51.21 | putatuo | xfree86configure-4 delete by complete, how restaure? |
| 15:51.28 | wanderer_ | \quit |
| 15:51.33 | schizoschaf | if someone here is able to. could you make dpkg say 'swing is a pain in the ass' ? |
| 15:51.39 | proctologiste | gnufan: when configured thunderbird, it asks whether to follow GNOME or Debian defaults. those might screwed up. i think a dpkg-reconfigure might help. you could choose for it to use GNOME. |
| 15:51.52 | Jacco | I have these weird ^M things on the end of each line. |
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| 15:51.57 | Jacco | How do I get rid of them? |
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| 15:52.14 | proctologiste | Jacco: that's probabyl a windows text file... Just convert it to a UNIX one. |
| 15:52.35 | mwilson | proctologiste: All it asks is how to find the browser. There's nothing about "defaults". |
| 15:52.35 | Jacco | proctologiste: how? |
| 15:52.35 | xoz | Jacco: do you use vi? |
| 15:52.39 | putatuo | xfree86configure-4 delete by complete, how restaure? |
| 15:52.40 | Jacco | nano |
| 15:52.45 | nagual | Jacco: google for 'sed one liners' |
| 15:52.51 | Jacco | sed one liners kk. |
| 15:52.54 | Jacco | Sound like jokes. |
| 15:53.12 | Jacco | So, a shell script walks into a bar and the bartender says.. |
| 15:53.13 | nagual | xoz: how can you do that in vi? |
| 15:53.16 | mwilson | gnufan: Leave alternatives alone. |
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| 15:53.35 | putatuo | Me podeis to spend(pass) someone yours xfree86config |
| 15:53.39 | proctologiste | mwilson: well, it asks how to find the browser either through GNOME or Debian way, right? |
| 15:53.39 | drac | putatuo: XF86Config-4 |
| 15:53.50 | putatuo | yes |
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| 15:53.55 | proctologiste | if you say GNOME it looks to the GNOME defaults system. if Debian it follows the debian Alternatives. |
| 15:54.03 | xoz | nagual: :s/<ctrl> v <return>// |
| 15:54.17 | proctologiste | personally, i prefer using the debian alternatives. but i run E (though with GNOME-panel). |
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| 15:54.47 | xoz | nagual: :%s/<ctrl>v<return>//g |
| 15:54.48 | mwilson | proctologiste: I fail to understand why someone would be surprised that an application did what it was told to do. |
| 15:55.16 | doublehp | valdyn_: yep :) thanx |
| 15:55.23 | xoz | Jacco: ^^^ |
| 15:55.23 | nagual | thanks xoz |
| 15:55.25 | d_ | anyone able to help with XMMS? |
| 15:55.34 | mwilson | proctologiste: Although in the case of thundercrap, I suppose it's justified. |
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| 15:55.47 | doublehp | valdyn_: now ... reportbug against pppoeconf which still creates ppp_on_boon :) |
| 15:55.59 | putatuo | To pass yours xfree86config by restaure |
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| 15:56.42 | xk | gnome leaks so much ram, it's not funny. |
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| 15:57.43 | PRO1- | how come i cant install pico with apt-get? |
| 15:57.47 | d_ | xk: use fluxbox |
| 15:57.53 | sussudio | xk: it's funny if you sell RAM |
| 15:58.01 | mwilson | PRO1-: Other than that Debian doesn't package pico? |
| 15:58.03 | xk | d_: I already use a lightweight wm... afterstep :) |
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| 15:58.05 | Babbage | Should I expect all files listed in /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.list tobe present? How are diversions handled? |
| 15:58.07 | PRO1- | ahh |
| 15:58.10 | _rene_ | PRO1-: non-free, the license is crap and even forbids redistribution of binaries |
| 15:58.10 | d_ | PRO1: apt-cache search pico |
| 15:58.14 | mwilson | PRO1-: As would have been obvious if you'd actually looked? |
| 15:58.17 | xk | d_: I just laugh at my friend who uses gnome.... it eats into his swap :) |
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| 15:58.20 | BadMan | PRO1- use nano if you are comfortable with pico |
| 15:58.24 | PRO1- | okay thanks |
| 15:58.27 | xk | d_: where as for me, I only use 128megs... the rest is cache |
| 15:58.35 | Nijan | Hello, sorry, does exists a download manager that allow me to recursevely download directory three? |
| 15:58.35 | d_ | xk: ya fluxbox is for sure the way to go |
| 15:58.35 | valdyn_ | doublehp: yea, go ahead ) |
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| 15:58.49 | valdyn_ | doublehp: if its not reported yet.. |
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| 15:59.10 | trueno | How can I access "/dev/hda" remotely? I would like to do something like: ntfsclone -o - REMOTEHOST-/dev/hda1 | ssh -C host 'bzip -c9 > ntfs.img.bz2' |
| 15:59.17 | Ink_ | so i installed apache with apt-get install, but when i wanted to remove it i used apt-get remove apache, but it didn't remove eveything.. is there another cmd i should use maby? |
| 15:59.23 | PRO1- | has anyone used lm-semsors before? |
| 15:59.27 | valdyn_ | Nijan: for http? for ftp? |
| 15:59.29 | xk | PRO1-: yes. |
| 15:59.32 | xk | PRO1-: what's the prob? |
| 15:59.41 | PRO1- | /proc/sys/dev/sensors/chips or /proc/bus/i2c unreadable; |
| 15:59.47 | mwilson | PRO1-: No, no one has ever used lm-sensors before. |
| 15:59.50 | xk | PRO1-: did you run sensors-detect? |
| 15:59.56 | xk | PRO1-: and followed it? |
| 15:59.57 | Nijan | for http, sorry. |
| 16:00.10 | Khjo | i'm trying to mount my Ubuntu from Knoppix because i can't boot into my system. I'm aksing here because this channel host some really bright persons. when i try mount -t ext3 /dev/hda4 /mnt/ubuntu/ i get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4, or too many mounted file systems (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?). i know that all these are wrong. the only pro |
| 16:00.10 | Khjo | blem is an error in the grub config. what's the solution for this? |
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| 16:00.18 | Nijan | But i need to authenticate |
| 16:00.25 | Babbage | trueno> Run knopppix on the machine with the NFTS filesystem and use "nc" to send the data to the remote storage. Or use ssh instead of "nc" if the network is not secure. |
| 16:00.30 | Nijan | bedore get the file, and i need a visual browser. |
| 16:00.52 | mwilson | Khjo: #knoppix |
| 16:00.52 | PRO1- | yeh |
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| 16:00.54 | Khjo | mwilson, they don't answear |
| 16:00.56 | Ink_ | I also get an error when i do: apt-get --compile source apache2 .. |
| 16:00.59 | sk | Hi. |
| 16:01.03 | xk | PRO1-: and added the stuff to... /etc/modules? |
| 16:01.04 | Ink_ | morning sk |
| 16:01.06 | mwilson | Khjo: Then I guess you're SOL. |
| 16:01.09 | PRO1- | no i didnt do that |
| 16:01.11 | Babbage | Khjo> do fdisk -l /dev/hda to see what filesystems are there |
| 16:01.13 | xk | PRO1-: and manually loaded the modules? |
| 16:01.22 | PRO1- | nope :| |
| 16:01.33 | xk | PRO1-: should do it... then it will work. |
| 16:01.40 | PRO1- | right how do i do that? |
| 16:01.45 | sk | I've a problem with grub. How can i write it to mbr from an other linux? |
| 16:01.46 | mwilson | PRO1-: So, there was a reason why you didn't read the instructions? |
| 16:02.00 | Babbage | Khjo> Perhaps you're asking the wrong questions, or asking the right questions wrongly. See http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 16:02.03 | xk | PRO1-: add? use an editor (pico?) on /etc/modules, and just add the lines that sensors-detect told you. |
| 16:02.14 | PRO1- | ok thansk |
| 16:02.19 | xk | mwilson: some people want shit to be done for them, windows styles ;) |
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| 16:02.42 | Khjo | Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table Babbage mwilson |
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| 16:03.12 | Khjo | Babbage, mwilson this is not good. and the only thing i did was to change a line in the grub config |
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| 16:03.19 | mwilson | Khjo: As I said, #knoppix. |
| 16:03.23 | Babbage | Khjo> If it does not contain a valid partition table then you cannot mount filesystems on it at all (except as a whole-disk device which is almost never what you really need). |
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| 16:03.35 | xk | PRO1-: then "modprobe <module>"... the stuff you had to add into /etc/modules. |
| 16:03.37 | xk | PRO1-: for each one. |
| 16:03.45 | xk | PRO1-: then run "sensors"... |
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| 16:03.49 | sk | re |
| 16:04.01 | redge_ | Hello folks. |
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| 16:04.21 | Babbage | xk> hello, I want shit to be done for me, too. |
| 16:04.27 | xk | ;) |
| 16:04.36 | Babbage | xk> s/hello,/hell,/ |
| 16:04.46 | Khjo | Babbage, is it possible that the whole partition table dissapear when you change a line in grub? |
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| 16:04.52 | xoz | Khjo: have you tried fdisk /dev/hda? |
| 16:04.55 | PRO1- | none of the modules load when i run sensors-detect |
| 16:05.03 | Babbage | Khjo> No, you must have done something else (too). |
| 16:05.05 | xoz | fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 16:05.14 | sk | How can i rewrite mbr with grub? |
| 16:05.16 | Babbage | xoz> Already suggested that |
| 16:05.17 | wb` | anyone here fimiliar with netpbm? |
| 16:05.21 | xk | PRO1-: none of them are supposed to load directly from sensors-detect. |
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| 16:05.36 | xk | PRO1-: you're supposed to add them to /etc/modules, and either a) load them yourself or b) reboot. |
| 16:05.38 | Babbage | sk> You can't. It is not the right tool for the job. |
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| 16:05.49 | mwilson | PRO1-: When will you get around to reading the instructions? |
| 16:05.52 | Babbage | wb`> some years ago |
| 16:05.58 | xoz | Khjo: check dmesg if your disk is dtected |
| 16:05.59 | sk | Babbage: How then? |
| 16:06.04 | wb` | I'm trying to install it, but it's giving me problems |
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| 16:06.12 | Babbage | sk> What are you really trying to achieve? |
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| 16:06.33 | xoz | Khjo: or try mount... it might already be automatically mounted by knoppix |
| 16:06.47 | Babbage | wb`> Should just be "apt-get install netpbm". |
| 16:06.54 | sk | Babbage: I've destroy the mbr. deb didn't boot. |
| 16:07.00 | eugenesan | hi all, will SH understand this "if ["$1" = "-u" || "$1" = "ul"] then"? |
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| 16:07.04 | Khjo | xoz, its not mounted yet |
| 16:07.06 | wb` | wow, i'm fired |
| 16:07.27 | wb` | i must have made a typo earlier when i did it |
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| 16:07.27 | Babbage | eugenesan> That won't do what you want if $1 starts with "-" |
| 16:07.30 | xoz | Khjo: and dmesg | grep /dev/hd ? |
| 16:07.37 | xk | Babbage: that > shits me ;) |
| 16:07.57 | Babbage | xk what > ? |
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| 16:08.07 | BlackHand | hi |
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| 16:08.17 | eugenesan | Babbage: ok, and what about || (OR) operator can i use it here |
| 16:08.21 | BlackHand | is posible to downgrade a debian sid to testing ? |
| 16:08.26 | xk | eugenesan: try -o, and use == instead of = |
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| 16:08.42 | xk | eugenesan: if it still doesn't work, prefix all the "" shit with x (eg: "x-u") |
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| 16:08.51 | mwilson | BlackHand: No. |
| 16:08.58 | Babbage | eugenesan> || works for shell commands. However, the thing you are contructing is a test expression. Read the documentation for "test" to find out how to use "OR" conditions in test expressiosn. |
| 16:08.59 | BlackHand | mwilson: thx |
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| 16:09.12 | xk | BlackHand: after 2-3 weeks, yeah ;) just wait for sid to be stale enough that testing is newer |
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| 16:09.41 | xk | although that wouldn't apply to all packages. |
| 16:09.46 | sk | Babbage: I've destroy the mbr. deb didn't boot. |
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| 16:10.00 | Khjo | xoz, hda4: bad access: block=2, count=2 |
| 16:10.00 | Khjo | end_request: I/O error, dev 03:04 (hda), sector 2 |
| 16:10.23 | Babbage | sk> Did you fuck up the boot loaderin the MBR or the actual partition data in the MBR? |
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| 16:10.33 | exobyte | I downloaded the sed .deb, extracted it, and copied the binary to a system (both the deb and system are mips). when I run sed, I get sed: 14: Syntax error: "(" unexpected |
| 16:10.43 | eugenesan | i can't find nothing about OR operator in BourneSH manual, where to llok? |
| 16:10.46 | Ink_ | so, apt-get remove apache dosn't remove everything, should i use another command!? and.. what command shows all pkg's that's installed on the comp? |
| 16:10.51 | sk | Babbage: The bootloader. |
| 16:10.51 | xoz | BlackHand: /msg dpkg pinning |
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| 16:11.21 | Babbage | Khjo> That just means you are trying to read from a position on /dev/hda4 when in fact /dev/hda4 isn't that big. It is not a hardware error (necessarily). |
| 16:11.37 | Babbage | sk> what're you booted into now? |
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| 16:11.51 | xoz | Khjo: knoppix usually mount automatically the partitions... are you sure it's not mounted or it's not hdb or hdc ? |
| 16:11.58 | sk | Babbage: Knoppix 3.6 |
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| 16:12.18 | Khjo | xoz, it should be hda4 |
| 16:12.49 | Babbage | sk> You should be able to do "grub-install --root-directory=/your/machines/root/fs" |
| 16:13.13 | Babbage | Khjo> did you do "fdisk -l /dev/hda" ? |
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| 16:13.28 | sk | Babbage: is --rot-directory /dev/hdax? |
| 16:13.47 | Khjo | xoz, i can't see it when i use 'mount' anyway |
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| 16:14.33 | Khjo | Babbage, Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes |
| 16:14.33 | Khjo | 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders |
| 16:14.33 | Khjo | Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table |
| 16:14.54 | xoz | Khjo: reboot and check the mesg while it's booting. usually, hdisks detected are shown. |
| 16:15.02 | Nijan | Somebody know a program allow me to receive telephone calls? |
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| 16:15.28 | ferrus | yes |
| 16:15.28 | Babbage | eugenesan>< See "CONDITIONAL EXPRESSIONS" in the Bash manpage or the manpage for "test" |
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| 16:15.30 | valdyn | Nijan: on isdn? |
| 16:15.32 | sk | Babbage: is --root-directory=/dev/hdax? |
| 16:15.47 | Gnurdux | does anyone know whether or not gnome 2.10 will ever be in sarge ? |
| 16:15.47 | Babbage | sk> no. It needs to be mounted, I think |
| 16:16.06 | Babbage | Nijan> I do that in hardware |
| 16:16.06 | sk | Babbage: I'll try! |
| 16:16.16 | ferrus | Nijan: I know of a program that will allow you to use VoIP, but I don't think you want then as much as you do a /telephone/ |
| 16:16.19 | valdyn | Gnurdux: is gnome 2.10 even released? |
| 16:16.32 | Gnurdux | it will be on 3/10 |
| 16:16.34 | Khjo | xoz, ok |
| 16:16.34 | Gnurdux | or 9 |
| 16:16.36 | Gnurdux | or soemthing |
| 16:16.44 | Babbage | Khjo> Well, you've screwed up your partition table then." |
| 16:16.47 | Gnurdux | sometime very very soon |
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| 16:17.16 | PRO1- | im struggeling with this xk sorry i dont know what i need to put in /etc/modules |
| 16:17.29 | PRO1- | im following a guide but its not working out |
| 16:17.41 | Nijan | no, on analogical line |
| 16:17.48 | Gnurdux | you dotn NEED to put in anythijng |
| 16:17.55 | mwilson | PRO1-: Still refusing to read the instructions, huh? |
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| 16:18.06 | Gnurdux | its only the moduels you need to load at boot |
| 16:18.16 | KasperTech | hey there, everytime I use jigdo my download stalls when i connect to ftp.dk.debian.org why? |
| 16:18.18 | Gnurdux | but hoptlug should load everything for you |
| 16:18.34 | Khjo | Babbage, xoz, this is exactly what i did. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops scroll down to inspiron 8600 |
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| 16:19.05 | PRO1- | right |
| 16:19.08 | mwilson | Gnurdux: It should, huh? Why should it? |
| 16:19.20 | FieldySnuts | hotplug is not perfect. in fact, much of the time, it sucks |
| 16:19.37 | Gnurdux | hotplug loads aeverything i neeed |
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| 16:20.03 | FieldySnuts | i've never found it totally useful, from what I hear i sh ould be able to plug my camera in, have it recognized and mounted automatically. but I had to write scripts to take care of that |
| 16:20.04 | mwilson | Gnurdux: Unlikely. |
| 16:20.04 | bryce_ | how do I allow a unprivileged user to shut the system down? |
| 16:20.06 | FieldySnuts | which isn't a big deal. |
| 16:20.17 | Putiikki | Shorewall won't drop pings, even with "DropPing", what to do? |
| 16:20.20 | FieldySnuts | you could use sudo perhaps |
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| 16:20.21 | |slocate | hey, what's a good newsreader? |
| 16:20.29 | mwilson | slrn |
| 16:20.35 | Babbage | |slocate> gnus |
| 16:20.48 | FieldySnuts | ? |
| 16:20.56 | Gnurdux | i deleted everything from /etc/moduels and it still oaded everything |
| 16:21.15 | Gnurdux | tho when i can i use kernel built from source |
| 16:21.19 | FieldySnuts | it must be nearing sunday. I never could get a hang of sundays. |
| 16:21.33 | ferrus | lol |
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| 16:22.28 | sl0w | i'm trying to recompile my kernel, i would love to do a cloneconfig but it errors 'No rule to make target', does 'make xconfig' use the existing configuration files? |
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| 16:22.54 | Babbage | Khjo> I can see hardly any way for you to have made that much of a mess of your system with instructons that are that simple. So, I can't explain what you're seeing. |
| 16:22.58 | valdyn | bryce_: apt-get install acpid ( if you have acpi ) - thats it, system can be shut down by pressing the power button then |
| 16:23.13 | xoz | sl0w: try make oldconfig |
| 16:23.34 | daxxar | sl0w, make xconfig uses an existing .config, yes. But if you're upgrading from an older version of the kernel, make sure you do make oldconfig (as xoz says) |
| 16:23.34 | xoz | sl0w: then make xconfig |
| 16:23.48 | sl0w | xoz: thanks, i'll try that |
| 16:24.07 | bryce_ | valdyn: thank you. I'll try it right now |
| 16:24.18 | Khjo | Babbage, i guess i have to reinstall ubuntu. i can't understand how it could get this fucked up |
| 16:24.26 | Gnurdux | you know |
| 16:24.27 | KasperTech | hey ftp.se.debian.org is up :-)) |
| 16:24.36 | Gnurdux | ubuntu is debian BASED |
| 16:24.39 | Babbage | Khjo> Me either. |
| 16:24.40 | KasperTech | which imagefiles do I need, all of them? |
| 16:24.42 | sl0w | daxxar, xoz: what if I'm running on one of those nifty preinstalled kernels (say MEPIS) that didn't come with the original sources? |
| 16:24.43 | Gnurdux | it is NOT pure debian |
| 16:24.44 | sk | Babbage: It must be mount! Thx. |
| 16:24.51 | Khjo | Babbage, well thanx for you time |
| 16:24.54 | Gnurdux | so why not go onto #ubuntu? |
| 16:25.02 | Babbage | Khjo> Sorry I couldn't actually help. |
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| 16:25.04 | Gnurdux | Khjo: |
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| 16:25.12 | Gnurdux | khjo: go onto #ubuntu |
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| 16:25.36 | bryce_ | valdyn: this would work for my laptop.... but won't for something with a 'hard' power switch |
| 16:25.48 | valdyn | bryce_: true |
| 16:25.57 | Babbage | sk> WQorking now? |
| 16:26.11 | sk | Babbage: I've even the same Problam on an other deb. Lilo ist default installed without prompt and i've changed the default system. |
| 16:26.16 | valdyn | bryce_: though every atx case has a soft power switch, your box gotta be old.. |
| 16:26.21 | daxxar | sl0w, not sure, sorry. :-) |
| 16:26.25 | sk | Babbage: The grub is working fine. |
| 16:26.28 | daxxar | sl0w, but you could check /proc/config.gz =) |
| 16:26.31 | Babbage | sk> great. |
| 16:26.31 | xoz | sl0w: check /boot/ for the config of your kernel and move it to kernel dir renaming it to .config |
| 16:26.33 | daxxar | If your system has it. |
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| 16:26.48 | sl0w | daxxar, xoz: i'll check that now |
| 16:26.56 | sk | Babbage: I've even the same Problam on an other deb. Lilo ist default installed without prompt and i've changed the default system. |
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| 16:27.29 | valdyn | bryce_: my gnome session permits everyone to shut the system down, you use something else? |
| 16:27.56 | nvz | whoo hoo people (and bots, and trolls). . . I went and got myself a Linksys network card and I am almost back in business here :P |
| 16:27.58 | bryce_ | valdyn: my brother's old P2. It's not going to be running gnome anytime soon. IceWM. |
| 16:28.12 | valdyn | bryce_: and youre starting X via startx? |
| 16:28.22 | bryce_ | valdyn: xdm |
| 16:28.27 | sl0w | xoz: would the vmlinuz-whatever be considered the config? |
| 16:28.29 | valdyn | bryce_: gdm too optionally permits users to shut down |
| 16:28.30 | hagbard | When I removed exim, I believe with apt-get remove, it left a number of the config files and such around, does dpkg/apt still know about them still? is there a method for removing all of that old stuff? |
| 16:28.39 | Award | What is a good means of imaging a root partition for backup purposes (a complete restorable fs)? |
| 16:28.54 | nvz | I am using a very small about 13.5" viewable Packard Bell monitor though :P |
| 16:29.10 | sl0w | daxxar: sorry, no /proc/config.gz |
| 16:29.18 | bryce_ | valdyn: good to know. I'm going to look into using shutdown.allow first. |
| 16:29.18 | xoz | sl0w: it starts with config-<kernel version> |
| 16:29.20 | valdyn | bryce_: now, if you don't want to use that either - man sudo, you can specfiy comannds to be executed via sudo <command>, w/o password being asked |
| 16:29.28 | valdyn | bryce_: ah, ok |
| 16:29.35 | KasperTech | should I use jigdo to fetch all of the image files or just the first ?? |
| 16:29.36 | hagbard | Award: dumpe2fs, but that won't handle the MBR |
| 16:29.42 | nvz | Award: partimage |
| 16:29.46 | sl0w | xoz: fantastic! it's there |
| 16:29.50 | hagbard | Award: err, excuse me, thats wrong advice. |
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| 16:30.31 | valdyn | bryce_: nice, didn't know that one |
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| 16:30.47 | bryce_ | valdyn: neither did I till about 2 minutes ago |
| 16:30.54 | hagbard | Award: I'd agree with nvz, partimage |
| 16:30.56 | sk | Babbage: I've even the same Problam on an other deb. Lilo ist default installed without prompt and i've changed the default system. |
| 16:31.02 | Babbage | hagbard> Er, I think it's too late for dpkg --purge exim |
| 16:31.18 | Award | hagbard, nvz: Well I would prefer NOT to get the MBR...I don't want a clone, just an image (since I'm usually running a dual-boot system...usually spanned accross 2 drives, but the MBR could be different on a system restoration |
| 16:31.27 | Award | hagbard: Depending on if partition sizes change etc. |
| 16:31.28 | Babbage | sk> Surely you can just change lilo.,conf ? |
| 16:31.46 | hagbard | Award: have you considered tar? |
| 16:31.59 | sk | Babbage: I've done this with Knoppix but i can't execute lilo. |
| 16:32.04 | hagbard | Babbage: actually, that worked - is there a way to make it purge config files for all other removed packages? |
| 16:32.05 | Award | hagbard: The problem with tarring is it tends to get stuck on special system devices. |
| 16:32.08 | Babbage | sk ? |
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| 16:32.19 | hagbard | Award: It shouldn't, tar knows about special files. |
| 16:32.24 | Award | hagbard: I've tried tar archives for backup in the past and it has tended to yield corrupt file systems when it got stuck. |
| 16:32.36 | KasperTech | should I use jigdo to fetch all of the image files or just the first, anyone :) ?? |
| 16:32.39 | sk | Babbage: I've changed lilo.conf with Knoppix but i can't execute lilo to write the bootloader. |
| 16:32.43 | FieldySnuts | i would consider using rsync for making backups |
| 16:32.44 | Award | hagbard: Fortunately it must be the END that's getting corrupt as I've been able to extract any lost data from such backups, but still... |
| 16:32.51 | FieldySnuts | pay specific attention to the -a and -D flags |
| 16:32.56 | valdyn | KasperTech: only the first, but probably none |
| 16:32.59 | Award | FieldySnuts: Hmm, an interesting suggestion.... |
| 16:33.00 | FieldySnuts | I use rsync to do all my backups at home and at work |
| 16:33.16 | hagbard | Award: fwiw, I've used tar to do similar things. ie, boot up with livecd, mount remote nfs, untar, chroot to the new root partition, run grub-install, reboot |
| 16:33.18 | Babbage | sk, is LILO not installed on the Knoppix Cd then? |
| 16:33.19 | Award | FieldySnuts: I'd never thought of that in the past...just point to yourself as the rsync... |
| 16:33.20 | KasperTech | valdyn: none :) ? |
| 16:33.26 | xoz | Award: if you have feta... feta purge-config will do the trick |
| 16:33.32 | FieldySnuts | it also does things tar cannot. say you rsync a full system somewhere. you can then come back later, and "sync" to that again. it can delete what's no longer there, and add what is there that wasn't before |
| 16:33.38 | valdyn | KasperTech: d-i is enough to install and can fetch just what you need from the net |
| 16:33.49 | FieldySnuts | Award: well, you don't need an rsync server. it can copy across the network, or just locally |
| 16:33.51 | hagbard | Award: were you by chance storing the tar file on a FAT32 partition? |
| 16:34.04 | sk | Babbage: You mean i copy the lilo.conf to knoppix and let them write the loader? |
| 16:34.14 | FieldySnuts | but he's right, with tar it's easy to not store things like device files properly |
| 16:34.15 | KasperTech | valdyn: well ok, but I've already started the jigdoing... so what's all the other .jigdo files for? |
| 16:34.21 | Award | hagbard: I think one of them was on a fat32, one was not. |
| 16:34.30 | Babbage | sk> No, use the "/sbin/lilo" binary on the Knoppix system. |
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| 16:34.44 | hagbard | Award: I think I've done what you may be trying to do many times, are private messages ok? |
| 16:34.55 | Award | FieldySnuts: You can rsync to a local device though, right (In this case a partition on a USB HD) |
| 16:34.55 | xoz | FieldySnuts: rsnapshot is cool |
| 16:35.00 | valdyn | KasperTech: more debian packages, but 95% of those packages you wont ever need so its a waste of bandwidth and time to download them |
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| 16:35.14 | Award | hagbard: sure |
| 16:35.16 | sl0w | xoz: gotta love xconfig - I loaded the one from the boot, saved it to the /usr/src/linux folder, make-kpkg clean, then started the image and it's going good! |
| 16:35.21 | sk | Babbage: my deb-lilo can't access the device. |
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| 16:35.36 | FieldySnuts | Award: be sure to man rsync , but here's a basic setup. back up a full system to /mnt/backup/Saturday rsync -avD --progress --delete --ignore-errors --exclude /mnt --exclude /other-stuff / /mnt/backup |
| 16:35.38 | KasperTech | valdyn: ok.. but I've got the first one.. that's the one I need (sarge-i386-1.jigdo) ? |
| 16:35.41 | valdyn | KasperTech: and beside that, sarge is still updated constantly, so those CD images will be "outdated" soon |
| 16:35.48 | valdyn | KasperTech: yea |
| 16:35.50 | sk | Babbage: I've try it in chroot |
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| 16:35.58 | KasperTech | valdyn: yeah... I see :-) |
| 16:36.00 | Babbage | Can't you just use lilo -r ? |
| 16:36.08 | FieldySnuts | Award: if a week later you did the same thing, rsync would compare what's at each location, delete the files no longer in / , and copy over what is in / that was not in the backup. |
| 16:36.23 | Snakehand | Where do I set default gw / DNS on a debian system -- I am new to this and the usual FreeBSD / Fedora places for this seeems to have gone missing in Debian :-) |
| 16:36.44 | valdyn | !faq Snakehand |
| 16:36.45 | dpkg | Snakehand: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 16:36.46 | xoz | sl0w: you should have tried make oldconfig before xconfig to make sure the new changes in the kernel are merged to the .config |
| 16:36.55 | FieldySnuts | Award: but yeah you can copy it locally , to your usb drive if you prefer. obviously, it'd take a while, but you'll get to see speeds with --progress |
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| 16:36.59 | wb` | whats a good mailserver? |
| 16:37.10 | FieldySnuts | wb`: some like exim, exim4, postfix... there are others |
| 16:37.11 | valdyn | Snakehand: "man interfaces" aswell if you want, faq is said to be easier to understand |
| 16:37.19 | Babbage | wb`> Dpeends what you want. I use postfix, but exim is good too. |
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| 16:37.28 | sl0w | xoz: my known working kernel was the one I took the config from, my newly created kernel wasn't working so hot |
| 16:37.33 | nvz | hmmz not getting any screens configured with my PB8538SVGA (H:35.5/V:90) configuration.. heh I had it working on knoppix last night.. not sure what the modelines were though. |
| 16:37.41 | Snakehand | Thanks for the URLS, the man interfaces was a bit short on DNS / gw info |
| 16:37.46 | Jz3 | hi, maybe one of you could help me, I tried apt-get install udev, and after reboot it doest startup anymore :/ its says cant create /dev/null, readonly filesystem (this happens before init script are called), mtab is ok, I compared it with another box, I also removed udev now |
| 16:37.50 | nvz | old monitors are a PITA |
| 16:37.51 | wb` | thx |
| 16:37.53 | Award | FieldySnuts: Well it's usb2.0 so it would actually be a bit faster than a network transfer. |
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| 16:37.57 | xoz | sl0w: ah, then it's not needed. |
| 16:38.22 | Award | FieldySnuts: On the same topic any suggestions (other than tar) on backing it up to an image file on a non-ext partition? (I'd likely just do the ext though) |
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| 16:38.28 | Babbage | Jz3> Is the root fs mounted readonly? |
| 16:38.29 | sl0w | xoz: i'm trying to install vmware on MEPIS, vmware requires the kernel sources but for some reason the kernel sources don't match the precomp kernel with mepis so thus the song and dance |
| 16:38.35 | sl0w | xoz: thanks for your help though |
| 16:38.50 | FieldySnuts | Award: in theory. in reality, there are two types of usb 2.0 . you have the true high speed you're thinking of, then you have what most devices are, not-so high speed. you'll find out pretty fast. for example, my "usb 2.0" really nice digital SLR camera transfers pictures at around 900KB/s. definately not high speed. we can thank the manufacturers for this one. |
| 16:38.51 | sl0w | xoz: i've been fighting this thing for 2 days now |
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| 16:39.04 | Jz3 | @Babbage: I dont think so, but I will check |
| 16:39.07 | sk | Babbage: It don't work "/dev/mapper/control: open failed" |
| 16:39.30 | FieldySnuts | Award: well when i need to make a raw image, i'd use dd. such as dd if=/dev/hda1 of=hda1.image , though it'd only be useful on the same sized disk/partition or a larger one. |
| 16:39.44 | FieldySnuts | Award: unless you were taking an iso (cd / dvd) image, which you'd use mkisofs for. |
| 16:39.57 | FieldySnuts | raw images aren't useful all that much, however |
| 16:39.59 | Babbage | sk> You're using LVM on the root fs on that box? |
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| 16:40.29 | xoz | sl0w: tried the vmware 4.0 for kernel 2.6 in debian but i got impatient... gd luck ;) |
| 16:40.38 | sk | Babbage: I don't now is an Knoppix 3.6 and a sarge. |
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| 16:41.01 | Award | FieldySnuts: Why are raw images not useful? |
| 16:41.22 | Award | FieldySnuts: (I'm just weighting all the options of backup of 2 or more OSes on one giant HD :) |
| 16:41.25 | Jz3 | @Babbage: thats in mtab: /dev/hda1 / ext3 rw,defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 0 |
| 16:41.25 | lph | hello there |
| 16:41.38 | sl0w | xoz: 4.0.5 on 2.6.10, i'll let you know where I land :) |
| 16:41.39 | FieldySnuts | Award: they are, it's just a bigger pain to deal with. you'd have to either mount them to be useful, at which point you may as well have an rsync archive anyway |
| 16:41.50 | Babbage | Jz3> No, I meant *now*. |
| 16:41.53 | Award | FieldySnuts: I split up all my real partitions to no more than 30gb for root and about 20 for all others, so backup should be fairly simple at this point...it's just a matter of determining the most useful method |
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| 16:42.01 | sk | Babbage: I don't now is an Knoppix 3.6 and a sarge. |
| 16:42.10 | FieldySnuts | Award: also, to update a raw image, you'd have to blow away the entire image, and create it from the very beginning again. with rsync archives, you only have to wait for it to find the changes and do them |
| 16:42.12 | xoz | sl0w: let me know because i tried it for a day and gave up. |
| 16:42.14 | Babbage | Award> 30Gb root? Gorblimey! |
| 16:42.17 | lph | got a KDE-fonts-question: i tried installing fonts taken from www.proggyfonts.com; however, they won't show up in any font dialogue |
| 16:42.42 | Award | FieldySnuts: True, the only differences I can think of though are that the image can be on any FS, the rsync must be the same FS |
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| 16:42.51 | Jz3 | Babbage: I started from a rescue cd, so no, I can write to it |
| 16:42.59 | FieldySnuts | Award: having done this for years, rsync is going to be the most flexible and fast way to do it all. the only case I use raw images is in the case of an ancient DOS voice mail system, which once in a while we make a raw image of. |
| 16:43.02 | Award | Babbage: Hehe, I almost never fill the 30gb roots :) |
| 16:43.11 | Babbage | Jz3> You could always remount it read-write |
| 16:43.18 | FieldySnuts | Award: nope, if you can mount any filesystem read-write, you can rsync to it |
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| 16:43.41 | Award | FieldySnuts: Yeah but if you rsync to, say, a Fat32 partition, filenames, symlinks, etc will all be a mess :) |
| 16:43.44 | FieldySnuts | Award: though rsyncing to a vfat partition wouldn't be very useful, as it won't be able to preserve permissions, ownership, ietc |
| 16:43.48 | Babbage | Award> Not surprised. I have 2x80Gb + 1x120Gb disk, but / is only 471Mb. |
| 16:43.53 | FieldySnuts | yeah okay I see what you're saying |
| 16:44.09 | FieldySnuts | the advantages of using rsync are enough that i'd find a way to use a different filesystem |
| 16:44.11 | Jz3 | hm, but when I try to start debian, it gets kernel panic, like I said cant create /dev/null |
| 16:44.23 | Jz3 | when I look with rescue cd, in /dev there is null, also console |
| 16:44.23 | FieldySnuts | anway i need to relax, bbl |
| 16:44.29 | sk | Babbage: I don't now is an Knoppix 3.6 and a sarge. |
| 16:44.32 | Award | FieldySnuts: Well I have a 200gb backup drive that I can partition off to the EXACT partition sizes of my real drives so it shouldn't be a problem :) |
| 16:44.57 | Jz3 | also I noticed, /dev is recreated everytime I try to boot deb |
| 16:44.59 | nvz | ok I am using sarge, and I just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and there are not updates for anything X or debconf related, yet for some reason dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 doesnt create any /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 even if I remove the existing one. Can anyone give me some clues as to why this may be? |
| 16:45.04 | Babbage | Jz3> sounds like it's not pointing at the right root filesystem. |
| 16:45.15 | KasperTech | valdyn: some of the packages (a xfree library included) is not downloaded, it says 404 not found.. would that mean that anything? |
| 16:45.40 | valdyn | nvz: /msg dpkg x md5 |
| 16:45.58 | Award | How do you change a partition type on a drive (Eg, change a fat32 partition in the middle of a drive to be an ext3 partition?) |
| 16:46.09 | Award | (I should know this, but I can't remember, haven't done it in a while |
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| 16:46.20 | valdyn | KasperTech: that that file does no longer exist in debian could be if that jigdo is a week+ old |
| 16:46.24 | mrhemlock | Award, fdisk /dev/hd? |
| 16:46.37 | Babbage | Award> Do you need to keep the existing data on the FAT32 partition? |
| 16:46.40 | KasperTech | but.. then it's useless to download it? |
| 16:46.42 | sk | Babbage: I don't now is an Knoppix 3.6 and a sarge. |
| 16:46.44 | xoz | nvz: /msg dpkg x md5sum |
| 16:46.47 | KasperTech | if I need that file :-) ? |
| 16:46.52 | Award | Babbage: The data can go, I just need to modify the fs on the partition |
| 16:47.26 | Award | Babbage: (I'm just looking to partition the drive conveniently in windows with all fat partitions then go back in lin and modify the ones I want to be ext backup partitions. |
| 16:47.41 | Babbage | Award> First remove it from /etc/fstab, then you can just use mkfs to make a new ext3 filesystem on it. That works fine unless you also want to change its size. |
| 16:47.46 | Snakehand | Thanks for the wiki link, it just what the doctor ordered. |
| 16:47.52 | KasperTech | valdyn: it's libxft1_4.3.0.dfsg.1-8_i386.deb |
| 16:47.56 | nvz | xoz: I get no reply |
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| 16:48.06 | Babbage | Award> Er, don't forget to unmount it before running mkfs |
| 16:48.10 | Award | Babbage: I keep most of my useful data to backup on fat partitions so both OSes can get to it (things that don't need permissions) |
| 16:48.17 | valdyn | !info libxft1 sarge |
| 16:48.22 | nvz | dpkg, x md5sum? |
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| 16:48.24 | dpkg | libxft1: (FreeType-based font drawing library for X (version 1)), section libs, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-10 (sarge), Packaged size: 178 kB, Installed size: 364 kB |
| 16:48.36 | Babbage | sl> I don't know how to help you further sorry |
| 16:48.39 | Snakehand | Bit I have one more question, I installed a 2.2 kernel from the miniCD, and compiled and installed a 2.4 kernel. N ow apt-get install emacs fails --- have I broken the system ? |
| 16:48.39 | KasperTech | okay.. not that crucial :) ? |
| 16:48.41 | resiak | dpkg: test |
| 16:48.41 | dpkg | Yes, resiak, you're still online. |
| 16:48.47 | resiak | dpkg: x md5 |
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| 16:49.09 | Award | Babbage: And that works fine in the middle of the drive? |
| 16:49.18 | resiak | !tell nvz -about xmd5 |
| 16:49.18 | guylhem1 | h |
| 16:49.19 | guylhem1 | hi |
| 16:49.27 | nvz | that bot is next to useless anymore. it doesnt reply at all when it doesnt know something.. so I have no way to know if its ignoring me or what |
| 16:49.33 | Award | Babbage: I'm fairly sure it does, I'm just double-checking :) |
| 16:49.34 | Babbage | Award> You're not changing the SIZE or LOCATION of the filesystem are you? |
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| 16:49.43 | guylhem1 | which packages provide gtk 2.0 dev on sarge? apt-cache search is not very helpful to me |
| 16:49.46 | valdyn | nvz: im sure that factoid used to work, fucking bot |
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| 16:49.56 | Award | Babbage: Nope, just the FS type |
| 16:50.01 | xoz | somebody erased the factoid.. |
| 16:50.06 | Jz3 | @Babbage: I installed it on a one hdd machine, with default settings, root / is /dev/hda1, so I think its right :/ |
| 16:50.07 | valdyn | !x md5 |
| 16:50.09 | valdyn | !md5 x |
| 16:50.11 | dpkg | 9dd4e461268c8034f5c8564e155c67a6 |
| 16:50.19 | valdyn | !factinfo md5 x |
| 16:50.19 | dpkg | valdyn: there's no such factoid as md5 x |
| 16:50.23 | Babbage | Award> In that case it will work fine. For extra credit you can use the "t" command in fdisk to change the type label on that partition too. |
| 16:50.30 | sussudio | !listkeys md5 |
| 16:50.31 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'md5' by key (5): md5 ;; x md5sum ;; md5sum ;; xmd5 ;; x md5. |
| 16:50.32 | xoz | !listkeys md5sum |
| 16:50.34 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'md5sum' by key (2): md5sum ;; x md5sum. |
| 16:50.34 | nvz | valdyn: seems to be xmd5 |
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| 16:50.41 | Jz3 | but how comes, it recreated /dev and /etc/mtab ? |
| 16:50.43 | valdyn | !xmd5 |
| 16:50.43 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then ... |
| 16:50.47 | nvz | thank you all, that is obviously the problem |
| 16:50.57 | valdyn | nvz: yea, someone changed this |
| 16:51.08 | Jz3 | I mean when I do some changes to it on rescue mode, then they are replaced on next boot try |
| 16:51.22 | Award | Babbage, hagbard, FieldySnuts, nvz: Thanks |
| 16:51.29 | hagbard | Award: anytime |
| 16:51.32 | Babbage | np |
| 16:51.43 | nvz | I want to choose the Simple 14" config, because the exact factory specs 35.5H and 90V yeild no usable screens at any resolution |
| 16:51.51 | Babbage | I'm off |
| 16:52.05 | valdyn | I use videogen for that |
| 16:52.09 | nvz | I know I should at least get 640x480 cause I had it viewable on knoppix last night |
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| 16:53.10 | xoz | nvz: copy XF86Config from knoppix and drop it in deby... |
| 16:53.46 | pureone | i managed to getaway with that once |
| 16:54.12 | Shadowcat | man |
| 16:54.21 | Shadowcat | I'm so enjoying setting up Samba |
| 16:54.23 | nagual | btw, critical update for grsecurity 2.6.11 and 2.4.29 |
| 16:54.24 | Shadowcat | (not) |
| 16:54.26 | Award | FieldySnuts: BTW, it appears to be a TRUE USB2....it's approximately the same transfer time as from one internal drive to the other...about 3 or 4 seconds for a 300mb file. |
| 16:54.39 | nvz | xoz: well knoppix's framebuffer was out of range, so I cant see console on knoppix, and the default desktop size is wrong too.. I had to Ctrl-Alt-+ through the modes to find a virtual desktop size that I could actually see.. so that config is _far_ from what I want. my config is all good but the screens. I rather just work around what I got already.. |
| 16:54.40 | nagual | err. that came out wrong, but i take it you understand what i meen. |
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| 16:54.45 | nvz | valdyn: it will spew me some modelines and I just drop em in my config? |
| 16:54.51 | FieldySnuts | Award: you lucky dog :P |
| 16:55.14 | valdyn | nvz: spew you some modelines fitting to your ~/.videogen |
| 16:56.03 | nvz | valdyn: I'll keep it in mind. I am going to try fix my xmd5sum first and see if the Simple 14" config yeilds any usable screens |
| 16:56.44 | Award | FieldySnuts: Hehe, about 25 seconds to copy a gig :) |
| 16:56.57 | Award | FieldySnuts: It's actually faster than copying from one partition to another on the same internal drive (MUCH faster) :) |
| 16:57.05 | FieldySnuts | yep, no moving parts |
| 16:57.41 | nvz | yee haw :P I got what appears to be 640x480 anyhow |
| 16:57.57 | Award | FieldySnuts: I had a feeling it would be the right speed as the company (Apricorn) of the conclosure was insistant that FireWire is mostly for Mac compatibility as true USB2 is faster :) |
| 16:58.18 | FieldySnuts | it is |
| 16:58.36 | FieldySnuts | only thing i use firewire for is my digital video camera, plenty fast |
| 16:58.55 | FieldySnuts | lamely, it claims it also does usb2.0 but it's the slower version and can't keep up (why'd they bother?) |
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| 16:59.14 | Award | FieldySnuts: Strangely my digital still camera transfers very fast over USB1.1....it ties up the CPU in linux for some reasons (spikes on each file copy), but it's no slower than most USB2 card readers :) |
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| 16:59.35 | valdyn | FieldySnuts: many companies label 1.1 devices as "usb2" |
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| 16:59.40 | FieldySnuts | yeah i know |
| 16:59.45 | Award | FieldySnuts: Heh, I haven't seen any of those faulty USB2 devices....but I don't doubt they exist. |
| 16:59.47 | FieldySnuts | i never knew that till recently |
| 16:59.55 | Award | FieldySnuts, valdyn: That's sad |
| 17:00.06 | Award | FieldySnuts: The only other USB 2 device I have used is an Epson scanner though. |
| 17:00.47 | nksen | lo. anyone using a linksys router and may tell me the default remote port? |
| 17:01.34 | Award | Hmm under linux is there a way to change an ext partition back to fat32? (Just in case win2k decides not to like the drive once it finds a linux partition on there (which can happen) |
| 17:02.11 | Joris | Award: not really... it depends on what you want to happen to the data on the partition |
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| 17:03.04 | Award | Joris: I'm a bit afraid of putting an ext partition on the device since the last system I had shared linux partitions and ntfs/fat partitions on, windows tried scanning the "corrupt filesystem" for about 8 minutes every time I booted :) |
| 17:03.28 | Award | Joris: The data can be scrapped |
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| 17:03.38 | Award | Joris: More specifically there won't BE data on it at this point :) |
| 17:04.03 | char0x30 | Is there any good reason to leave my kernel source in /usr/src ? |
| 17:04.16 | Pancamo | lo any advices to this: "kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount Fs on unknown-block(3,2)" =) |
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| 17:04.50 | rubixXx | to restart a service isn't it like invoke.rc emu10k1 restart ? |
| 17:04.53 | Joris | Award: well, then it's just a matter of changing the partition type |
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| 17:05.16 | Joris | Award: the easiest way is probably by using some form of fdisk (cfdisk is my personal favourite) |
| 17:05.44 | xoz | or parted/qtparted |
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| 17:06.26 | Award | Joris: noted, thanks. |
| 17:07.03 | drac | Pancamo: First time compiling your own kernel? |
| 17:07.43 | SiliconViper | Herm. I've got an app complaining about not having /dev/dsp. This node does not exist. How do I create it, or fix this? |
| 17:08.11 | drac | SiliconViper: If you are using 2.6 kernel, install udev |
| 17:08.22 | xoz | SiliconViper: man mknod / MAKEDEV |
| 17:08.33 | SiliconViper | drac: I've got udev. |
| 17:09.02 | Pancamo | drac yes =) |
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| 17:09.11 | Jz3 | @SiliconViper: you got udev ? with apt-get ? |
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| 17:09.18 | Jz3 | I tried to |
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| 17:09.23 | SiliconViper | Jz3, yes, I just said that. |
| 17:09.31 | rubixXx | how do you restar thte sound server |
| 17:09.32 | xoz | SiliconViper: make sure the modules for dsp is loaded |
| 17:09.34 | rubixXx | SiliconViper): whats up |
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| 17:09.40 | Wille88 | why libogg0 and libogg-dev have depency problem in sarge? |
| 17:09.45 | SiliconViper | xoz: Which modules? |
| 17:09.48 | SiliconViper | rubixXx, -_- |
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| 17:09.54 | drac | Pancamo: How do you expect kernel to boot, without File System and/or IDE/SCSI supports? |
| 17:10.09 | Jz3 | @SiliconViper: hm you had no problems with cannot create /dev/null ; read only filesystem ? |
| 17:10.23 | mwilson | Wille88: Who says they do? |
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| 17:10.25 | drac | Wille88: I don't have any problems with them, both installed in Sarge at same time. |
| 17:10.31 | SiliconViper | Jz3, no, none. Never have, in all the times I've installed it. |
| 17:10.35 | Wille88 | drac: hmm. weird |
| 17:10.51 | Jz3 | ok |
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| 17:11.05 | xoz | SiliconViper: snd-mixer*, snd-seq*, snd-*... you need alsaconfig to figure it out |
| 17:11.08 | drac | Wille88: It has to be your other repositories in sources.list causing it (guess) |
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| 17:11.15 | Wille88 | I need check my sources.list |
| 17:11.46 | ndicachi | hello |
| 17:11.59 | ndicachi | is anybody there |
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| 17:12.15 | ferrus | yes |
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| 17:12.24 | ferrus | but only every other minute |
| 17:12.29 | drac | ndicachi: how about /names #debian :) |
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| 17:12.38 | Dell | hey google http://www.otomotivshow.com/ :) |
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| 17:12.42 | ndicachi | hey i am a new guy |
| 17:12.45 | ndicachi | in linux |
| 17:12.51 | nvz | alright I got another X problem now. After I login with gdm, the default cursor a big black "X" appears on the top layer in the center of my desktop, and the arrow cursor that is controlled by my mouse shows up as well, and moves under that one.. I dont know how to get rid of it.. I cannot have an X on top of everything |
| 17:12.55 | dvs | !tell ndicachi about enter |
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| 17:13.51 | xoz | nvz: what's your video card? |
| 17:13.51 | green_earz | ndicachi: have you got debian up and runing and is it sarge ?? |
| 17:14.21 | ndicachi | i love debian |
| 17:14.46 | nvz | xoz: S3 ProSavage KM133, and I am using the Savage driver |
| 17:15.01 | ndicachi | but i have a problem |
| 17:15.10 | SiliconViper | >_< Fixed it a different way. Told the app to not use OSS. >_< |
| 17:15.20 | ndicachi | i can not dowloand anything |
| 17:15.43 | green_earz | ndicachi: with apt-get ? |
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| 17:16.11 | ndicachi | i shearch for mplayer and i click on the link , and it say U cant download |
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| 17:16.27 | ndicachi | whit apt-get i tried |
| 17:16.32 | ndicachi | but it says |
| 17:16.37 | sdafgsdf | hi folks |
| 17:16.44 | m0p | I have a problem with xfree86 on Debian Sarge, would it be appropirate to ask here? |
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| 17:16.46 | ndicachi | err. imposibol to conect |
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| 17:17.20 | xoz | nvz: hmm, tried google? usually, that symptom has somthing to do with the video acceleration |
| 17:17.22 | green_earz | ndicachi: you need to add mplayer apt-get url in your apt source list |
| 17:17.53 | valdyn | m0p: ask |
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| 17:18.09 | xoz | nvz: try disabling video acceleration first and see if the symptom is still there |
| 17:19.04 | green_earz | ndicachi: use apt-setup and put in the url > deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main |
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| 17:19.10 | ndicachi | with apt-get update |
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| 17:19.46 | green_earz | ndicachi: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main |
| 17:19.58 | nvz | xoz: well thats more than I know, thanks for the tip.. I may try the vesa driver, or look for the particular option you mentioned.. I think its just Option "NoAccel" but I am not sure |
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| 17:20.12 | m0p | I have just installed Debian on my main system after testing it for a while on my old systems. I currently have an ATi Radeon 9800xt (using X's ati driver), an Abit IC7 Max3 and a WD Raptor as an HDD. When I startx, it brings up several errors. One says that RADEON isn't on pci:0:1:0, another says xkbd settings are incorrect, and another suggests that I have a display setup but the configuration is unusable. |
| 17:20.12 | green_earz | ndicachi: then run apt-get update |
| 17:20.25 | nvz | xoz: I am on a 14" monitor connected to an onboard S3 card..so I am obviously not trying to do anything fancy |
| 17:20.28 | now3d | Hi, I am trying to setup my localhost as an imap server (so I can copy some emails around to a new profile etc). I have imapd running but cannot login, any one able to help me please? |
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| 17:21.32 | Vme | in the /etc/init.d directory you have a bunch of start and stop scripts...then you link them in /etc/rc2.d (if that is the runlevel you use) to startup on boot, what is the first S##service mean? |
| 17:21.44 | ndicachi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.58 | now3d | i tried uw-imapd, it was complaining about Maildir, dunno what that is. courier-imap had failed logins |
| 17:21.58 | xoz | nvz: something like that.. forgot the detail. got similar problem in 2.4 until i changed to kernel 2.6... using a not so common video card would take time to shoot for the bug unlike using ati, matrox, intel video card. |
| 17:22.03 | m0p | Although, I have set up X with dpkg-configure xserver-xfree86 exactly as I did with my other systems (one of which has an ATi Radeon 9600 Pro). And I get no errors. I have tried a USB mouse/keyboard and a PS-2 mouse/keyboard, still to no avail. While using a PS-2 mouse, it says that the mouse cannot be found, even though it's configured exactly as I have done several times before. |
| 17:22.03 | ndicachi | Err http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free Packages |
| 17:22.03 | ndicachi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:22.33 | now3d | ndicachi: what command were you running? |
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| 17:22.56 | valdyn | !usbmouse |
| 17:22.56 | dpkg | To use a USB mouse, do the following: [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe hid and mousedev by hand); it should beep at you when USB devices are (un)plugged. [5] use device /dev/input/mice, ... |
| 17:23.10 | nvz | xoz: well I know for sure I have 2.4.27-386 and no drivers loaded for the video card, I just choose "Savage" in X as a lucky guess for the most appropriate driver for this card |
| 17:23.26 | Award | Hmm, is there a limit to the number of partitions on a USB HD? |
| 17:23.29 | Jz3 | lol the rescue cd mounted its own /dev into my real debian, so I edited this all the time, now I got it working :)) |
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| 17:23.35 | m0p | I have used a USB mouse and keyboard with the same kernel on other systems. |
| 17:23.35 | Award | I seem to be hitting a wall at 4 primary and 1 logical |
| 17:23.37 | xoz | nvz: try 2.6... mine was solved in 2.6 |
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| 17:23.52 | nvz | xoz: actually I think I know what it is now.. I had the nVidia binary drivers on this machine with a custom 2.4.29 kernel when I had it in the machine in Dallas |
| 17:24.08 | nvz | xoz: I need to run the nVidia thing again and have it remove the drivers probably |
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| 17:24.34 | valdyn | m0p: your card *may* not be supported by that driver, whats in /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 17:24.34 | Award | Hmm make that 4 total partitions |
| 17:25.07 | m0p | Hmmm, y'think the official ATi Linux drivers will do the trick? |
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| 17:25.40 | valdyn | m0p: i don't think anything w/o having seen the actual error message |
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| 17:25.49 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 17:25.56 | solemnwarning | im building a router for some1 |
| 17:25.59 | green_earz | now3d: this howto may be of use full postfix and courier > http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail/ |
| 17:26.04 | solemnwarning | they want a cache |
| 17:26.13 | solemnwarning | that will purge every half hour |
| 17:26.18 | solemnwarning | can squid do this? |
| 17:26.45 | valdyn | m0p: "/msg dpkg ati drivers" if you end up giving atis drivers a shot |
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| 17:27.26 | scarynetworkguy | solemnwarning: Squid, a small bash script, and a cron job. Sure. |
| 17:27.29 | m0p | Bah, I will try the official ATi drivers and see if they work. If they don't, I'll get back to ya. I can't get access to the machine right now since I'm currently in the process of rebuilding it, but I will have a look later. |
| 17:27.45 | nvz | xoz: I just brought my 120GB HD home from dallas, and I had a custom rolled 2.4.29 kernel for a P4 with nVidia, now I got it in a K6-2 with an S3 onboard.. and booting the debian kernel 2.4.27-386, so I figure thats the problem.. I'll get it straigntened out.. when you mentioned accell it got me thinking in the right direction :) |
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| 17:28.12 | solemnwarning | cool |
| 17:28.24 | solemnwarning | its gotta run as a server as well |
| 17:28.28 | solemnwarning | samba + cups |
| 17:28.30 | solemnwarning | and bind |
| 17:28.39 | rubixXx | hmm....for some reason my sound isn't working at all. I have the emu10k1 modules loaded into the kernel...i have tried restarting the server, volume is up, speakers are hooked up correctly but still no sound |
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| 17:29.08 | xoz | nvz: that accel problem bugged me until 2.6 came... unfortunately, in my case, the problem was really the driver. |
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| 17:30.33 | green_earz | rubixXx: run the command cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp turn your sound down a bit and see if it make a sound |
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| 17:33.05 | green_earz | rubixXx: and is the user added to the audio group |
| 17:33.51 | rubixXx | green_earz): sound worked fine before, and no that command did not return any sound |
| 17:33.52 | \anky | kebabmor |
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| 17:34.34 | green_earz | rubixXx: it should do |
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| 17:34.45 | bash0 | hi I heard I can burn with ATAPI-Interface in 2.4.27+ kernel, too. But somehow DMA is not working at all... Is there a fix or do I have to move to 2.6 for DMA? |
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| 17:36.07 | trouble | hi folks |
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| 17:38.47 | trouble | im trying to open a file using vim but everytime i try to open it says file already running so i used the ps command to list proccesses but its not listed so i tryed the rm command but its says there is no such file, any suggestions ? |
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| 17:39.05 | bash0 | du ls -a filename* |
| 17:39.17 | bash0 | trouble: do ls -la filename* |
| 17:39.20 | bash0 | you'llfind it |
| 17:39.26 | trouble | ok |
| 17:39.27 | bash0 | its a temp file or something |
| 17:39.36 | trouble | swp file |
| 17:39.38 | xoz | trouble: lsof | grep <filename> |
| 17:39.53 | nvz | xoz: my problem I believe is the driver too, but its the nVidia binard driver, that is installed for a different kernel than I am running, and for a different card than I have :P |
| 17:40.17 | nvz | xoz: I didnt even think about it until you pointed me in the right direction |
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| 17:40.28 | xoz | nvz: in your case, mistaken identity ;) |
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| 17:42.01 | trouble | dpkg cp |
| 17:42.01 | dpkg | methinks cp is a command used to copy a file/folder to another destination without affecting the original file/place (basic syntax: cp /this/file.blah /here/) |
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| 17:42.37 | ccv | hey google http://www.otomotivshow.com/ :) |
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| 17:49.09 | peppo | what's the command to issue to re-do the initial configuration? my box's power was cut during package configuration, and I had to exit the initial setup to manually correct it with dpkg/apt. |
| 17:49.24 | trouble | when i use this command ls -a index.html.swp its says No such file or directory, but when i try to edit index.html with vim it says Found a swap file by the name ".index.html.swp" why is this ?? |
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| 17:50.15 | juhov | trouble: index.html.swp is different from .index.html.swp |
| 17:50.36 | peppo | I'm using testing, and I need to do how to re-run the basic configuration. |
| 17:50.50 | xoz | base-config |
| 17:51.02 | peppo | thanks coz. |
| 17:51.05 | peppo | xoz. |
| 17:51.11 | trouble | yeah i know this but why does vim warn me when i open index.html |
| 17:51.46 | mwilson | trouble: Did you actually READ the message? |
| 17:51.57 | trouble | yeah but very fast |
| 17:52.03 | trouble | just read it again |
| 17:52.06 | trouble | sorry |
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| 17:52.08 | Vme | what is the command to make clean with debian? |
| 17:52.11 | xoz | trouble: vim udergone unpleasant death? |
| 17:52.12 | Vme | dkpg make clean? |
| 17:52.26 | sparr_ | whats the "right" way to get java working on a debian system? |
| 17:52.33 | juhov | Vme: what do you want to clean? |
| 17:52.42 | Vme | the kernel |
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| 17:53.06 | mwilson | xoz: No, he's got a pre-existing swap file and can't be bothered to actually read what vim tells him. |
| 17:53.08 | Vme | i installed a USB Manager and now some of my modules are screwing up |
| 17:53.09 | juhov | Vme: probably make-kpkg clean then |
| 17:53.41 | xoz | mwilson: i was thinking that swap happened because vim got killed... |
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| 17:57.27 | Vme | for some reason when I installed a USB package my DVB card's modules no longer load successfully |
| 17:57.29 | mwilson | Vme: "a USB manager"? What does this mean? |
| 17:57.39 | Vme | it was some package |
| 17:57.48 | mwilson | You don't even know what you installed? |
| 17:57.56 | Vme | its not my computer |
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| 17:58.08 | Vme | i didn't install it |
| 17:58.09 | Vme | :) |
| 17:58.11 | eugenesan | hi all, is there ready solution like "shfs" in debian? |
| 17:58.15 | mwilson | [09:53] <Vme> i installed a USB Manager and now some of my modules are |
| 17:58.15 | mwilson | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.20 | Vme | i know |
| 17:58.27 | xoz | Vme: usbmgr? |
| 17:58.27 | mwilson | Vme: Make up your mind which story you're going to tell. |
| 17:58.45 | Vme | lol, i'm just trying to fix a computer |
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| 17:58.53 | Vme | i didn't know i was on trial |
| 17:58.56 | mwilson | Vme: You're more likely to get help if you actually tell the truth. |
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| 17:59.55 | xoz | Vme: usdmgr conflicts with hotplugs and other auto loading module packages... so, it might have replaced the working autoload module |
| 18:00.10 | sparr_ | If I am going to install a java runtime environment from a non-free source, where is the proper place to put it? /usr/local? /usr/local/share? /usr/share? /opt? |
| 18:00.15 | xoz | *usbmgr* |
| 18:00.21 | Vme | will recompiling the kernel fix this issue? |
| 18:00.29 | Vme | and reinstalling the modules? |
| 18:00.36 | mwilson | Vme: What would that have to do with it? |
| 18:00.46 | xoz | Vme: just place those modules in /etc/modules |
| 18:01.06 | xoz | no need to do anything fancy |
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| 18:01.43 | xoz | sparr_: /usr/local/ |
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| 18:03.25 | Snakehand | I want to do traffic shaping ( VoIP ) on my 2.4 gateway - what tools do I use. Google mainly suggest iproute2 - but isn |
| 18:03.32 | Snakehand | 't that obsolete ? |
| 18:03.40 | xoz | shaper |
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| 18:04.09 | Snakehand | ok thanks :-) |
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| 18:04.28 | now3d | hello? |
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| 18:04.51 | Empty | Is a valid shell required on the remote host to scp something? |
| 18:04.57 | Ryaan | hey google http://www.otomotivshow.com/ :) |
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| 18:05.13 | soften | Empty, yes, quite so., |
| 18:05.19 | Ink_ | hmm |
| 18:05.24 | Empty | soften, Hrm, OK. Thanks |
| 18:05.43 | Ink_ | why isn't php5 in source list? |
| 18:05.58 | soften | Ink_, backports.debian.org should have it |
| 18:06.30 | markmrd | hi, I am a newbie to debian, I just installed it on my IBM T42 laptop with Gnome, but when I change the resolution in Gnome to 1400x1050 the full desktop is displayed but in a small area of the screen and I can see other desktops, any ideas would be gratefully received? |
| 18:06.41 | soften | backports.org rather |
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| 18:08.25 | Ink_ | soften. debian.backports.org? |
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| 18:08.43 | green_earz | markmrd: may be that the res rate is to high 24 try 16 |
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| 18:09.15 | now3d | green_earz: thanks |
| 18:09.21 | green_earz | np |
| 18:09.45 | markmrd | green_earz - thanks how do I do that? |
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| 18:11.05 | green_earz | markmrd: is in change your res rates ? if so use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to do it |
| 18:11.16 | trouble | dpkg make dir |
| 18:11.57 | trouble | dpkg dir |
| 18:11.57 | dpkg | wrong OS, foo |
| 18:12.20 | trouble | dpkg directory |
| 18:12.20 | dpkg | it's a folder dammit |
| 18:12.38 | trouble | dpkg make directory |
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| 18:12.42 | chealer | !tell trouble about msg |
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| 18:13.05 | chealer | trouble: mkdir, or find a newbie guide |
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| 18:14.27 | humbolt | I am writing on a shell script and I need to resolve the uid from a username somehow. how? |
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| 18:14.37 | khorne | Can anyone help me set up my internet connection to connect on startup? |
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| 18:15.12 | khorne | I set it to connect on startup through pppoeconf, but it doesn't want to do it. |
| 18:15.35 | trouble | how do i make a directory ? |
| 18:15.43 | chealer | humbolt: man id doesn't help? |
| 18:15.45 | khorne | 'mkdir' |
| 18:15.46 | chealer | trouble: mkdir |
| 18:15.55 | trouble | ty dudes |
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| 18:17.10 | humbolt | tnx |
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| 18:21.18 | Xenguy | trouble: FWIW, here's a good online book: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/ |
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| 18:28.18 | khorne | Does anyone know how to set up an external DNS server? |
| 18:28.47 | khorne | I have troubles connectinig to certain websites and a friend of mine thought that might help. |
| 18:28.53 | soften | you can read the book "dns & bind" by o'reilly and associates online at ora's web site |
| 18:29.11 | khorne | Thanks soften. |
| 18:29.23 | soften | it's hard but certainly not impossible,. |
| 18:29.25 | mwilson | khorne: How is that supposed to help? |
| 18:29.41 | khorne | mwilson, I'm not really sure.. |
| 18:29.59 | khorne | I can run a computer alright, but I'm not very techy |
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| 18:31.58 | Rocco | what do i have to write in scaling_cur_freq so that the user can change die cpu-freq? |
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| 18:33.09 | PhilMatt | Any experience installing on sata hdd (Marvell Techn.) ? |
| 18:33.14 | bryce_ | valdyn: re unprivileged user shutdown: ended up using sudo. the shutdown.allow doesn't work within X as Ctrl+Alt+Del gets interpreted |
| 18:33.39 | Rocco | what do i have to write in scaling_available so that the user can change die cpu-freq? |
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| 18:37.35 | asdddd | hehe |
| 18:37.39 | asdddd | fuck u al |
| 18:37.40 | asdddd | ppl |
| 18:37.41 | asdddd | :) |
| 18:38.03 | DevilBunny | asdddd: Thank you for your kind words. |
| 18:38.06 | nvz | asdddd: please learn to use your client, and do _NOT_ _EVER_ do that again |
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| 18:39.04 | difeta | how can i make it so my cdrom will unmount and eject when i press the eject button on the cdromdrive? |
| 18:39.44 | Blissex | difeta: not really possible. |
| 18:40.07 | difeta | Blissex, why's that? |
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| 18:40.41 | Blissex | difeta: well, lots of reasons -- one is that pressing getting the ''press eject button'' event is not really available... |
| 18:41.08 | Blissex | difeta: it may be possible work around that, but then it becomes a dangerous game. |
| 18:41.30 | difeta | Blissex, so is it vendor specific on the cdrom? |
| 18:41.41 | Blissex | difeta: also, processes may have files/directories open on that volume, and they would have to be killed. |
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| 18:42.16 | difeta | Blissex, I still don't see where the problem is, but that is probably because I don't understand it |
| 18:42.22 | DevilBunny | difeta: It's best to forget winblows methodology and just accept the need to mount and unmount devices. It's a better system, believe me. |
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| 18:43.04 | difeta | DevilBunny, I agree with you, however its a pain to explain why to normal users |
| 18:43.10 | Blissex | difeta: whats easy to do is to have a ''button'' on your desktop that when pressed umounts and ejects the volume |
| 18:43.26 | jeanmi_ | I am using rsync between 2 machines in different timezone (Pacific Day Time and Europe/Paris). everytime I rsync everything gets copied over and over ..... is there anyway to avoid that ? |
| 18:43.28 | suman | hi all, i do not have any /dev/sda* entries created...how can i create them in debian unstable |
| 18:43.28 | difeta | Blissex, nautilus has it |
| 18:43.32 | juhov | difeta: supermount does what you want |
| 18:44.02 | sussudio | !stab DevilBunny |
| 18:44.15 | difeta | juhov, hmm, I've had bad experences in the past with supermount, but maybe i can just use it for cdroms, and that would be cool |
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| 18:44.54 | difeta | suman, I use udev and dbus. The /dev/sda* items are created for me when a device is inserted |
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| 18:45.23 | TheBeast | is there any perl 5.8.6 package in unstable ? I think 5.8.4 is pretty outdated |
| 18:46.00 | mwilson | Does the current perl in unstable not do something you think it should do? |
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| 18:46.22 | juhov | suman: MAKEDEV sda |
| 18:46.27 | DevilBunny | Speaking of winblows, did anyone see Bill Gates' claim (information week, recently) that LINUX is COMMUNISTIC, and UNAMERICAN? It was the same article where he announced Firefox is bad, and his new IE7 is good. Uh huh. |
| 18:46.32 | Blissex | difeta: note that ''press button on the CD'', ''supermount'' and ''press button on screen/Nautilus/Kwikdisk'' are all very different options. |
| 18:46.42 | TheBeast | mwilson: it's not that, it's just that unstable should be bloody-edge, and it's not :( |
| 18:46.43 | Blissex | DevilBunny: wait a sec for a cartoon... :-) |
| 18:46.50 | mwilson | DevilBunny: Does anyone care? |
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| 18:47.17 | superSSS | I dont get any .deb file after doing ; fakeroot make-kpkg clean kernel_headers kernel_image |
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| 18:47.37 | kaleb | Does anyone have experience of encrypting a large slice of your disc in real-time? |
| 18:47.39 | DevilBunny | mwilson: I find Gates amusing. |
| 18:47.54 | mwilson | DevilBunny: But does anyone care? |
| 18:48.15 | difeta | Blissex, thanks for the note, i think that may be handy. |
| 18:48.30 | Blissex | linux-is-communism cartoon: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/xirc/C/linux-communism.jpg |
| 18:48.57 | khorne | I set up pppoeconf to connect to the internet on startup, but I still have to start the connection manually. Does anyone have any ideas on why and how to fix it? |
| 18:49.04 | nagual | then linux will be the evil empire |
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| 18:49.31 | DevilBunny | nagual: Linux can NEVER be an evil empire (read: monopoly) as there are now hundreds of distros. |
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| 18:49.49 | DevilBunny | nagual: Although I suspect RedHat wants to be the monopoly. |
| 18:49.58 | superSSS | DevilBunny: imagine how strong linux could be, if there was only one distro |
| 18:50.02 | nagual | DevilBunny: anyone that users the word 'never' with great certainty cannot be relied on for information :) |
| 18:50.24 | DevilBunny | superSSS: There IS only one distro, Debian! ;o) |
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| 18:50.33 | Blissex | difeta: thanks. Also note however that if you really need a hack, things like automount/supermount are unsafe in general, but are sort of almost acceptable for CDs, as these are readonly. |
| 18:50.33 | DevilBunny | superSSS: All others are bogus! |
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| 18:50.46 | Ink_ | :P |
| 18:50.48 | pureone | mmm root |
| 18:50.50 | suman | juhov: when i try to do makedev in /dev it does not create any devices.... is it thet it is only created once |
| 18:51.03 | difeta | Blissex, ok, thanks |
| 18:51.09 | Blissex | difeta: but note that 'automount'/'supermount' dont do quite the ''press CD button and then umount/eject'', they fake it. |
| 18:51.12 | suman | juhov: because by mistake i created in /root |
| 18:51.38 | Ink_ | soo, i have installed apache2 and php5, but i don't know how too "make the connection" between those two.. that is because of my little experice with debian/linux |
| 18:51.49 | Blissex | DevilBunny: if Linux is communim, then Debian is the Trozkyst tendency :-) |
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| 18:52.06 | yopi | lo |
| 18:52.14 | yopi | anyone familiar with packaging? |
| 18:52.22 | Blissex | Ink_: thanks for letting us know. :-) |
| 18:52.23 | yopi | I can't see my postinst file being executed |
| 18:52.32 | difeta | Blissex, yeah, doesnt supermount make the kenel think that there is always a mount on the cdrom with the filesystem supermount, then supermount does the real work. |
| 18:52.54 | chealer | TheBeast: no. perl is standard, probably waiting for etch to upload new upstream versions |
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| 18:53.13 | Ink_ | Blissex: that was a call for help :P |
| 18:53.15 | Blissex | difeta: not quite. You see, automatic _mounting_ is fairly easy and safe. It is _unmounting_ that is sticky bit. |
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| 18:54.22 | difeta | Blissex, that makes sence, cause you got to kill the process that have it open |
| 18:54.25 | Blissex | difeta: what 'automount'/'supermount' schemes do is to unmount at the earliest possible opportunity, and then remount if the uses continues to use the volume. Since almost all of the time the volume is in effect unmounted, the eject button will almost always work. |
| 18:54.25 | jimbowen | Hello all. Would anyone happen to know a way of resolving a MAC address to an IP? |
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| 18:54.55 | juhov | jimbowen: arp? |
| 18:54.55 | Blissex | jimbowen: look at 'man arp' for example... |
| 18:55.14 | jimbowen | heh. ok. cheers. |
| 18:55.58 | difeta | Blissex, well doesnt look like it matters too much my 2.6 kernel doesnt support supermount and I'm too lazy to compile one |
| 18:56.28 | Blissex | difeta: but you can use the various 'automount'/'am-utils' daemons that do much the same in user space. |
| 18:56.40 | trouble | debian comes with a ftp server ? |
| 18:57.01 | chealer | trouble: if you install it |
| 18:57.02 | juhov | trouble: many ftp servers |
| 18:57.07 | burd | trouble: take your choice of several |
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| 18:57.17 | trouble | i tried ti install but said i have one |
| 18:57.17 | pureone | mmmm pure-ftpd |
| 18:57.20 | [PM]gothtec | Correct me if I'm wrong, but did I ask TATY to message me? Both my home and work clients on this channel got the message "OLA" from him. |
| 18:57.25 | trouble | but idk what it is called |
| 18:57.31 | difeta | Blissex, i suppose, but this appear to become more of a hassle than a blessing, I'll just stick with what I've got. |
| 18:58.15 | burd | trouble try proftpd that seems to be a popular one |
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| 19:06.00 | toresbe | After I've donee apt-get install of a font, do I have to restart X or is there a command to reread? |
| 19:06.02 | jimbowen | ok well it looks like ARP won't do it for me. My machine has not yet seen the mac address I am trying to resolve to an IP. Is there any way to tell it just to send a ping packet to a specific MAC? |
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| 19:06.59 | superSSS | What can I use to read README.g |
| 19:07.00 | superSSS | What can I use to read README.gz |
| 19:07.08 | toresbe | superSSS: zless :) |
| 19:07.12 | superSSS | ok |
| 19:07.14 | mattboll | vim |
| 19:07.29 | Blissex | toresbe: depends on what you mean by «X». |
| 19:07.45 | toresbe | Blissex: ctrl-alt-backspace and xinit :P |
| 19:08.01 | Blissex | toresbe: it is possible to add and remove fonts entirely dynamically to X, without restarting it, and that is the default. |
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| 19:08.23 | Blissex | toresbe: I wrote what you mean by «X», not by «restart X» |
| 19:08.40 | Blissex | toresbe: X _applications_ however is another story. |
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| 19:09.17 | toresbe | Blissex: well, I'm trying to invoke aterm now, with -font "artwiz-smooth-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" |
| 19:09.33 | Blissex | toresbe: wrong XFLD... |
| 19:09.45 | mwilson | XLFD |
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| 19:09.57 | Blissex | mwilson: :-) |
| 19:10.00 | Xero | Does Debian have anything like emerge, up2date, or anything similar? |
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| 19:10.08 | Blissex | Xero: now you ask! |
| 19:10.13 | Blissex | Xero: now you ask! :-) :-) |
| 19:10.13 | toresbe | Gee... I don't know what XLFD means... |
| 19:10.35 | Blissex | toresbe: X Long Font Descriptor or something like that. |
| 19:10.35 | juhov | toresbe: dpkg does |
| 19:10.43 | NewpZ | hi i have an hp ipaq pda.. is there connectivity for linux and an ipaq? |
| 19:10.48 | Xero | Now I ask? What? |
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| 19:10.58 | valdyn | Xero: apt-get |
| 19:11.08 | juhov | Xero: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 19:11.11 | Xero | apt-get is like up2date? :D |
| 19:11.17 | Blissex | toresbe: unless you remeber XLFD syntax just like that it is best to use 'xfontsel' to get one. |
| 19:11.18 | toresbe | Blissex: Okay - how do I use aterm without it? :) |
| 19:11.25 | valdyn | Xero: no, its much better |
| 19:11.30 | Xero | Haha, well, obviously |
| 19:11.41 | sevenoak | which tool can i use scan ports of an other pc? |
| 19:11.47 | juhov | sevenoak: nmap |
| 19:11.57 | Xero | I can download like a "stage 3" install of Debian somewhere? I can have a long download time, but need short compile/install time |
| 19:12.05 | Blissex | Xero: 'apt-get' is just about the same as 'up2date', only a bit better in some ways and a little worse in other ways. Usually on balance it is better. |
| 19:12.11 | valdyn | !d-i Xero |
| 19:12.12 | dpkg | Xero, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:12.13 | sevenoak | juhov: i will try, thanks.. |
| 19:12.20 | Xero | I need Debian to work with apache, mysql, php, and mssql support in php on a 700mhz 384MB machine, and get it set up within about 18 hours or less-ish |
| 19:12.22 | mwilson | Xero: You want to go back to Gentoo. |
| 19:12.30 | valdyn | Xer: that is 40mb - 110mb isos |
| 19:12.57 | Blissex | Xero: however the big story is not 'apt-get', but the whole APT system. while 'up2date' is sort of recent and not that will developed, the APT system is rather more complete and developed. |
| 19:13.02 | valdyn | Xero: that shouldnt be difficult |
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| 19:13.13 | burd | Xero: that can be done in a matter of minutes.. not sure what it takes to set up mssql on Linux tho |
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| 19:13.37 | Xero | WEll, don't need to set up mssql, heh |
| 19:13.39 | Blissex | Xero: apart from the command-line 'apt-get', there is the full screen 'aptitude' and the GUI 'synaptic' thigns that use all the same repositories and databases, and the repositories are easy to find and very rich indeed. |
| 19:13.44 | Xero | Just need to have php support it, which Ir ead wasn't that hard |
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| 19:14.04 | burd | Xero: probably not just a php module install with apt |
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| 19:14.05 | Blissex | Xero: do you really need MS SQL or MySQL? They are very different things.... |
| 19:14.07 | toresbe | Xero: I've set that up within about 18 *minutes* :P |
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| 19:14.20 | Xero | I need MySQL, and sup[port for MSSQL running on another amchine |
| 19:14.26 | Xero | So I can start converting an SMSQL database to MySQL\ |
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| 19:14.42 | Xero | (Through some php stuff I am writing that will take the format, and place it in the new database) |
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| 19:15.03 | Blissex | Xero: the support for MS SQL is a bit less easy to find on Linux in general. But there are fairly ''generic'' ODBC/JDBC drivers. |
| 19:15.19 | Xero | Wellll |
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| 19:15.39 | Xero | I need something called FREETDS |
| 19:15.41 | Klva | http://www.otomotivshow.com/ |
| 19:16.04 | burd | freetds-dev - MS SQL and Sybase client library (static libs and headers) |
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| 19:16.52 | burd | php4-sybase - Sybase / MS SQL Server module for php4 |
| 19:16.59 | burd | thats probably all you need |
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| 19:17.13 | burd | to add to php to make it work anyhow |
| 19:17.17 | Xero | Compile php with something like --with-mssql=/usr/local/freetds |
| 19:17.26 | toresbe | Blissex: I've apt-gotten installed it, but it's not visible in xfontsel |
| 19:17.27 | burd | Xero: why compile it?? |
| 19:17.37 | Blissex | Xero: If this needs to be a production machine, get the Debian Installer someone suggested and install Debian itself. If you want a development machine, try something like Kanotix or Knoppix. |
| 19:17.39 | Xero | Heh, how can I tell it to do that without compiling? |
| 19:17.41 | Xero | I ahte compiling ;_; |
| 19:17.45 | exobyte | if I'm using crosscompiling stuff, is mips what I should use when targeting mips? The how to I found uses arm |
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| 19:17.49 | burd | Xero can I Pm you? |
| 19:17.54 | Xero | Yes |
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| 19:18.07 | Blissex | Xero: also consider for a real quickie, another Debian derivative called http://lamppix.tinowagner.com/ |
| 19:18.20 | Xero | Hmm |
| 19:18.24 | Xero | Interesting :D |
| 19:18.26 | toresbe | there |
| 19:18.32 | Xero | I'm probably going with Debian over Gentoo |
| 19:18.33 | toresbe | i needed to just restart XFS |
| 19:18.49 | Blissex | Xero: also, there is a ''friends of Debian'' project that focuses on the latest and greatest in the LAMP releases, here: http://WWW.dotDeb.org/ |
| 19:18.57 | Xero | LAMP! :D |
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| 19:19.09 | Xero | dotdeb is down though, mate |
| 19:19.12 | Blissex | toresbe: yes, that might be needed, depending on how your font path is set up. |
| 19:19.24 | toresbe | Blissex: it was, works now :) |
| 19:19.40 | valdyn | Xero: the packages aren't |
| 19:19.42 | Blissex | toresbe: to _safely_ restart the font server you first need to remove it from the font path, restart it, and then readd it to the font path. |
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| 19:21.29 | Blissex | exobyte: just as there are several variants of ARM, there are several variants of MIPS. Your cross compiler has an option to list the target architectures it can generate code for, and if it is compiled for MIPS, the specific MIPS variants. |
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| 19:22.16 | toresbe | Blissex: oh? what's for me to lose if I don't do ...that? :) |
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| 19:22.44 | Blissex | Xero: odds are that the ''extra features'' PHP packages you want have been already compiled and made available by dotDeb.org; the official packages are more conservatively configured. |
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| 19:23.02 | Blissex | toresbe: you can hang your X server real bad. |
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| 19:24.22 | dd | www.otomotivshow.com |
| 19:24.23 | toresbe | Blissex: oh well, didn't happen this time :P |
| 19:24.39 | Blissex | toresbe likes to live dangerously... |
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| 19:25.10 | toresbe | indeed I do |
| 19:25.47 | d03boy | anyone know what I need to do so my computer doesnt try to wait for an AppleTalk network when its starting up? |
| 19:26.13 | toresbe | d03boy: improbe the speed of the AppleTalk network? ;) |
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| 19:26.26 | toresbe | cat: copycat :P |
| 19:26.37 | cat | lol, i had it before but my sister installed win xp on my pc, |
| 19:26.38 | d03boy | i dont have an appletalk network :\ |
| 19:26.40 | cat | so i kick her ass, |
| 19:26.43 | d03boy | and i dont ever plan on having one |
| 19:27.02 | mne__ | does anyone know some xdcc browser for linux ? I tried XDCC-fetch which didn't work for me |
| 19:27.11 | Blissex | toresbe: then I invite you to apply user contributed patches to the NVIDIA drivers for some -mm series 2.6.x kernel and load a few other incompatible drivers on some motherboard with not yet supproted AGP chipsets and then try to run Doom3 under WineX. |
| 19:27.11 | cat | bitchx has a xdcc |
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| 19:27.30 | cat | or apt-cache search xdcc |
| 19:27.45 | mne__ | cat: only xdcc serving or also xdcc browsing/client ? I'll have a look at bitchX :) thx |
| 19:28.16 | mne__ | cat: apt-cache search xdcc returns nothing, already tried that :) |
| 19:29.01 | cat | then use bx |
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| 19:31.00 | mwilson | d03boy: Then why is netatalk installed? |
| 19:31.13 | toresbe | anyone know what "ke dices" means? I think it's spanish |
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| 19:32.09 | macondo | toresbe, it means 'what r u saying?' in text talk |
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| 19:32.35 | toresbe | macondo: this guy is messageing me in SMS spanish= :D |
| 19:32.49 | macondo | hehe |
| 19:33.01 | cahoot | toresbe: Fawlty Towers? |
| 19:33.08 | FieldySnuts | heh |
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| 19:33.42 | Profit | hi i have sound card Opti 933 and with kernel 2.6.10 i cant istall it |
| 19:33.48 | Profit | someone can help me ? |
| 19:34.12 | toresbe | "SOY UNA NENA D DONE ERES KETE LA COMPRE TU MAE BENGA KE NO TENGO TO EL DIA" |
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| 19:34.32 | toresbe | macondo: Any clues? :) |
| 19:34.44 | toresbe | I'm just replying in gibberish :P |
| 19:34.52 | j_k | Profit: modprobe snd-opti93x ? |
| 19:35.02 | macondo | toresbe, no clue, why he's talking to you |
| 19:35.05 | toresbe | < toresbe> Ay ay ay, ye quiero uno radio, capitan! Muy calientas, el dental! |
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| 19:35.16 | toresbe | macondo: I have no idea |
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| 19:36.12 | xam | toresbe: well, the babelfish translation suggests that you've just completed a cocaine deal |
| 19:36.21 | vixy27 | hi all, anybody knows how to setup xsessions for different wm's ? |
| 19:36.24 | toresbe | macondo: he left now, but what the heck was he talking about |
| 19:36.43 | toresbe | xam: hahaha |
| 19:36.54 | Profit | j_k, not work |
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| 19:36.58 | yopi | how do I check if a pk is present? |
| 19:37.01 | yopi | pkg |
| 19:37.22 | superCow007 | where do source files end up when downloaded with apt-get source? |
| 19:37.29 | macondo | toresbe, it dotesn't make sense, all giberish, probably some gringo screwing around |
| 19:37.37 | toresbe | yopi: dpkg -l | grep packagename perhaps? |
| 19:37.38 | toresbe | if it's installed you get ii |
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| 19:37.43 | yopi | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.43 | vixy27 | yopi: dpkg -l | grep <pkname> |
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| 19:38.00 | yopi | thx, you seem to agree with each other |
| 19:38.19 | jjazz | superCow007: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 19:38.20 | j_k | Profit: what does it say ? |
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| 19:38.32 | jjazz | superCow007: err... sorry... that's wrong |
| 19:38.43 | Profit | nothing |
| 19:38.44 | superCow007 | yeah, oly .debs |
| 19:38.44 | eugenesan | hi all, i need kernel-headers of previos version! Where can i get it? |
| 19:38.46 | toresbe | superCow007: source puts it in current directory iirc |
| 19:38.46 | luother | hi, why does gnuplot create a wrong graph with "gnuplot> plot 1868/77175*x**3 + 1868/5145*x**2 + 3469/2058*x + 29693/12348" ? if i put in normal numbers is works |
| 19:38.47 | jjazz | superCow007: I misread your question |
| 19:38.50 | Profit | just when play some mp3 |
| 19:38.51 | j_k | Profit: then it works ;-) |
| 19:38.58 | superCow007 | current |
| 19:38.59 | superCow007 | shoot |
| 19:38.59 | jjazz | superCow007: I think they end up wherever you call apt from |
| 19:39.03 | superCow007 | where was I when I did that |
| 19:39.06 | Profit | its say that i havent sound |
| 19:39.07 | jjazz | superCow007: heh |
| 19:39.09 | vixy27 | /vixy27 says cheese :D |
| 19:39.15 | FieldySnuts | hehe |
| 19:39.19 | superCow007 | time to run updatedb |
| 19:39.19 | mwilson | luother: "normal numbers"? |
| 19:39.31 | j_k | Profit: what does ls /proc/asound tell you ? |
| 19:39.32 | Profit | but when i play something it tell me that my sounds is not configerute |
| 19:39.36 | luother | mwilson, "0.024204729510851959*x**3 + 0.36307094266277939*x**2 + 1.685617103984451*x + 2.4046809199870425" |
| 19:40.03 | j_k | Profit: does card0 appear there or something ? |
| 19:40.04 | FieldySnuts | i think some parenthasis are called for |
| 19:40.13 | mwilson | I would say it's precedence. |
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| 19:40.48 | Profit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.49 | Profit | card0/ cards devices hwdep modules O82C931@ oss/ pcm seq/ timers version |
| 19:41.01 | mwilson | Add parenthesis so that it groups the expression the way you think it should be evaluated, and then see if you get the answer you think you should. |
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| 19:41.08 | j_k | Profit: ok, that's good, your sound card is working with alsa. |
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| 19:41.31 | j_k | Profit: can you run an ALSA mixer ? (such as alsamixer ;-) |
| 19:41.50 | Profit | yes i can |
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| 19:42.36 | luother | mwilson, you mean something like this? "(1868/77175)*x**3" ? |
| 19:42.49 | j_k | Profit: modprobe snd-pcm-oss, to get the OSS emulation |
| 19:43.05 | j_k | Profit: some sound applications don't know how to use ALSA yet. |
| 19:43.23 | POVaddct | j_k: most of them |
| 19:43.30 | Profit | ok will try now |
| 19:43.31 | Profit | again |
| 19:43.51 | superSSS | I get the following error when building a kernel: make[2]: *** [arch/parisc/kernel/pdc_cons.o] Error 1 ; make[1]: *** [arch/parisc/kernel] Error 2 ; make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8' ; make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 |
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| 19:43.57 | mwilson | luother: If that's the way you think the expression should be evaluated. |
| 19:44.09 | mwilson | luother: I have no idea what you intend, you haven't told anyone. |
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| 19:44.39 | Profit | j_k, i write it but steel havent sound |
| 19:44.40 | soften | "first find the value of 1868 divided by 77175, then multiply the result times x cubed |
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| 19:44.47 | mwilson | luother: I don't remember off the top of my head whether gnuplot obeys precedence, or not. |
| 19:44.51 | jjazz | I'm trying to shift away from KDE apps (to eventually move to a lighter WM). Can anybody recommend an alternative to KMail that has a decent GUI, handles multiple pop accounts and has some decent filtering? Thanks. |
| 19:44.52 | j_k | Profit: tweak your mixer settings |
| 19:45.05 | soften | parentheses avoid many order of operations questions |
| 19:45.07 | FieldySnuts | you'd pry be better off letting bc take care of the math, then give that to gnuplot or something |
| 19:45.09 | mwilson | soften: I know quite well what he wrote, I asked him what he meant. |
| 19:45.12 | soften | it's difficult to use too many parentheses. |
| 19:45.15 | j_k | Profit: it's muted by default |
| 19:45.32 | soften | mwilson, of course; I was just pointing out what he said so that on reflection, he could perhaps modify it to something more descriptive |
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| 19:45.52 | superCow007 | when I do "apt-get source php4-mapscript" - shouldn't the resulting files that downloaded have the name php4-mapscript in them? |
| 19:46.04 | Profit | j_k, |
| 19:46.05 | valdyn | jjazz: mozilla-thunderbird, though not the lightest one |
| 19:46.08 | mwilson | superCow007: Why? |
| 19:46.09 | Profit | and now i must write this everytime |
| 19:46.13 | Profit | ? |
| 19:46.21 | j_k | Profit: add the modules to /etc/modules |
| 19:46.35 | Profit | how ? |
| 19:46.41 | Profit | and how it make on |
| 19:46.41 | j_k | Profit: if you have alsa-utils (or something) installed, the mixer setting will be saved on shutdown |
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| 19:46.47 | superCow007 | I dunno |
| 19:46.47 | Profit | i see the master is off |
| 19:46.48 | jjazz | valdyn: Thanks. I'll take a look at it. I tried it when it first debuted and wasn't impressed, but maybe it's improved. Any other ideas? |
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| 19:46.53 | valdyn | jjazz: evolution maybe, its not getting along with my large (10k++ messages ) nicely |
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| 19:47.11 | jjazz | valdyn: Does evolution require lots of gnome libs? |
| 19:47.15 | astronut | why can't I install eclipse? |
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| 19:47.24 | valdyn | !depends evolution |
| 19:47.26 | dpkg | evolution: depends on gtkhtml3.2 (>= 3.2.1), libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.7.2), libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.8.0), libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.5.4), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libcompfaceg1, libdb4.2, libebook8 (>= 1.0.3), libecal6 (>= 1.0.3), libedataserver3 (>= 1.0.3), libegroupwise6 (>= 1.0.3), libesd0 (>= 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (>= ... |
| 19:47.35 | mwilson | "improve Mac OS support"? What does that mean? |
| 19:47.35 | valdyn | jjazz: appearantly |
| 19:47.37 | mwilson | ack |
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| 19:47.51 | Profit | Item: Master [Off] |
| 19:47.52 | paddy | hi |
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| 19:47.57 | Profit | how to make it on ? |
| 19:47.59 | astronut | !depends eclipse |
| 19:47.59 | j_k | Profit: hit 'M' |
| 19:48.05 | astronut | !depends eclipse-ide |
| 19:48.09 | Profit | thanks |
| 19:48.10 | valdyn | jjazz: question is, won't you have something else already pulling the same stuff ) |
| 19:48.11 | Profit | :) |
| 19:48.21 | astronut | !depends eclipse-sdk |
| 19:48.22 | jjazz | valdyn: Whoa! I just did apt-get -s evolution, and it wants to install 30 new packages, including a huge mess of gnome stuff! Maybe evo is too evolved for me. |
| 19:48.22 | astronut | there we go |
| 19:48.22 | dpkg | eclipse-sdk: depends on eclipse-jdt (>= 2.1.1), eclipse-pde (>= 2.1.1) |
| 19:48.44 | valdyn | jjazz: sure alot if you havent used gtk2 applications |
| 19:48.46 | Profit | i have alsa |
| 19:48.48 | POVaddct | Profit: you can store and retrieve the mixer settings with alsactl |
| 19:48.52 | Profit | now my sethings are save it ? |
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| 19:49.08 | jjazz | valdyn: I try to stay off the gnome apps because I figure using both gnome and kde apps on this 128MB ram laptop wouldn't work too well. |
| 19:49.08 | POVaddct | Profit: man alsactl |
| 19:49.09 | j_k | Profit: they will be saved on shutdown and restored on boot |
| 19:49.12 | mwilson | valdyn: Uh, no, what does any of this crap have to do with "gtk2 applications"? |
| 19:49.12 | Profit | i mean will not need to do this again ? |
| 19:49.17 | Profit | i see |
| 19:49.24 | Profit | thanks for everything k_j |
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| 19:49.41 | POVaddct | j_k: is alsactl already called in an existing init script? |
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| 19:49.51 | j_k | POVaddct: i do think so |
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| 19:49.57 | POVaddct | j_k: okay |
| 19:50.21 | valdyn | !depends libgtk2.0-0 |
| 19:50.25 | dpkg | libgtk2.0-0: depends on libgtk2.0-common (>= 2.6.2-4), libgtk2.0-bin (>= 2.6.2-4), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.7.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.2.1), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libjpeg62, libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.8.0), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libtiff4, libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxcursor1 (>> 1.1.2), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), ... |
| 19:50.30 | astronut | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.33 | valdyn | mwilson: ^^ that |
| 19:50.38 | astronut | i have java2-commmon, shouldn't that meet that need? |
| 19:50.59 | mwilson | valdyn: Yes, try actually bothering to look at the dependencies for evocrap. |
| 19:51.11 | valdyn | mwilson: we just did. |
| 19:51.28 | mwilson | No, actually you did not. |
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| 19:51.57 | mwilson | As evocrap depends on quite a number of things not in that list, it not in any way being a "gtk2 application", but rather being a "Gnome application". |
| 19:52.08 | valdyn | mwilson: fine. |
| 19:52.11 | websdale | astronut - you probably need java-package ( & eclipse 3.0.1 is the current relaease) |
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| 19:52.44 | astronut | websdale: i'm trying to get it installed (sid) |
| 19:52.49 | astronut | not too much luck as of yey |
| 19:52.50 | astronut | yet |
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| 19:53.14 | juhov | astronut: did you check the FAQ? |
| 19:53.18 | astronut | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 19:53.18 | astronut | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.18 | astronut | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.18 | astronut | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.18 | astronut | el`: Broken packages |
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| 19:53.29 | m0p | brb |
| 19:53.31 | astronut | juhov: eclipse faq is relevant to apt? |
| 19:53.48 | juhov | astronut: no, I meant #debian FAQ |
| 19:54.31 | astronut | juhov: don't see anything about eclipse in there |
| 19:54.32 | websdale | astronut: I didn't try to install the debian eclipse & I removed java2-common etc. - just installed java-package & eclipse 3.0.1 |
| 19:54.45 | astronut | websdale: oh, not install from apt? |
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| 19:54.52 | juhov | astronut: yeah but it will tell you how to get a java2-runtime |
| 19:54.54 | valdyn | jjazz: I haven't yet found a light mua that gets along nicely w/ large mailboxes |
| 19:55.04 | astronut | juhov: i have java installed.... |
| 19:55.04 | astronut | oh |
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| 19:55.18 | cat | can someone give me a hand here? |
| 19:55.24 | cat | Unpacking gnome-gv (from .../gnome-gv_1%3a2.8.2-2_i386.deb) ... |
| 19:55.24 | cat | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-gv_1%3a2.8.2-2_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 19:55.32 | cat | and i try apt-get -f install and the same error |
| 19:55.35 | astronut | ah... |
| 19:55.39 | cat | any ideas? |
| 19:55.43 | superCow007 | hrmm.. should a debian source package I downloaded be looking for libraries in /usr/local? |
| 19:55.56 | juhov | astronut: after that you can install eclipse without problems, at least I didn't get any errors when I tried apt-get install eclipse-sdk |
| 19:56.00 | superCow007 | "configure: error: Could not find gd.h or libgd.a/libgd.so in /usr/local" |
| 19:56.02 | astronut | ah, ok |
| 19:56.03 | cat | i never had this error, |
| 19:56.09 | astronut | juhov: i had java something runing so i figured i was good |
| 19:56.11 | cat | any one have any ideas? |
| 19:56.12 | Blissex | superCow007: uhmmmm, not really. |
| 19:56.14 | astronut | dunno what i had |
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| 19:56.34 | valdyn | superCow007: apt-get build-dep <package> |
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| 19:56.56 | superCow007 | I do have libgd2 installed.. hrmm |
| 19:56.57 | superCow007 | ok |
| 19:57.29 | valdyn | superCow007: you need the approprate -dev package too, but just run apt-get build-dep ... |
| 19:57.29 | cat | can someone help me please? |
| 19:57.35 | cat | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 19:57.35 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.35 | cat | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 19:57.51 | cat | i try apt-get -f install and nothing happends |
| 19:57.51 | valdyn | cat: try rm /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-gv_1%3a2.8.2-2_i386.deb |
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| 19:58.26 | cat | valdyn: same error, |
| 19:58.32 | valdyn | cat: because that error appeared when extracting that package i think, nothing installed yet |
| 19:58.51 | valdyn | !info gnome-gv |
| 19:58.54 | dpkg | gnome-gv: (GNOME PostScript viewer), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.8.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 882 kB, Installed size: 3728 kB |
| 19:59.05 | cat | now is working valdyn |
| 19:59.07 | cat | kind off, |
| 19:59.09 | valdyn | !info gnome-gv sarge |
| 19:59.13 | sproingie | hm. trying to use amd64 netinst, have a nforce3 ethernet ... detects it, gets the MAC, but no packets go through |
| 19:59.15 | cat | !info gnome-gv sid |
| 19:59.19 | dpkg | gnome-gv: (GNOME PostScript viewer), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.8.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 882 kB, Installed size: 3728 kB |
| 19:59.21 | dpkg | gnome-gv: (GNOME PostScript viewer), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.8.2-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 882 kB, Installed size: 3728 kB |
| 19:59.21 | sproingie | am i SOL or is there a fix? |
| 19:59.22 | valdyn | cat: should redownload the package |
| 19:59.36 | cat | people told me to changed urls must be corrupted |
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| 19:59.55 | cat | but now its working =) |
| 20:00.19 | valdyn | cat: that would be possible i guess, but hasn't happened to me |
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| 20:02.20 | valdyn | sproingie: dhcp worked? |
| 20:02.27 | sproingie | valdyn: nope |
| 20:02.46 | sproingie | my gateway router box does do dhcp, but dhcp times out |
| 20:02.54 | valdyn | sproingie: nore did assigning an IP i guess? |
| 20:02.58 | valdyn | sproingie: nor did assigning an IP i guess? |
| 20:03.05 | sproingie | tried busybox wget to another machine on the network, also no good |
| 20:03.18 | sproingie | yah, manual didnt work either |
| 20:03.32 | valdyn | sproingie: you can verify cabling by seeing the appropriate led? |
| 20:04.01 | sproingie | check the blinkenlights? no, did not. don't think they did though |
| 20:04.24 | sproingie | works fine on windows, so physical connection is ok |
| 20:04.30 | valdyn | sproingie: ok |
| 20:04.53 | valdyn | sproingie: id try to install a different way |
| 20:05.05 | sproingie | like from a full iso set i guess.. |
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| 20:05.10 | valdyn | sproingie: see if any kernel works with this |
| 20:05.22 | valdyn | sproingie: no, you just want a different nic driver i think |
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| 20:05.30 | valdyn | sproingie: so a different kernel |
| 20:05.31 | yacoob | hi * |
| 20:05.38 | valdyn | sproingie: whatever livecd |
| 20:05.51 | DrPete | Anyone sugest a cheap dedicated server host that provides debian servers at good prices? |
| 20:05.53 | astronut | juhov: thanks for explaining this to me...it's installing eclipse now |
| 20:05.54 | sproingie | not too many choices for the amd64 |
| 20:05.57 | valdyn | sproingie: i have no idea if theres debian sarge installers with different kernels |
| 20:06.01 | yacoob | is there a way to have working ident behind nat? (nat is performed by some hw router, not capable of more than port forwarding) |
| 20:06.07 | valdyn | sproingie: ubuntu livecd |
| 20:06.23 | juhov | astronut: no problem |
| 20:06.26 | sproingie | been asking on #ubuntu actually ... how well does it track debian? |
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| 20:06.39 | valdyn | sproingie: in which sense? |
| 20:06.41 | mwilson | sproingie: Not at all. |
| 20:06.42 | sproingie | i remember getting burned by knoppix a while back, so i got suspicious of debian based distros |
| 20:06.59 | sproingie | except for vanilla debian that is |
| 20:07.01 | ryoohki | what floppies are need for the install? why are they not named boo1, boot2, boot3... |
| 20:07.18 | valdyn | sproingie: i have no idea about their kernels, their universe is whatever they do themselves ( 800? ) packages, rest is recompiled debian packages afaik |
| 20:07.20 | mwilson | ryoohki: Dunno, why aren't you reading the installation guide? |
| 20:07.21 | ryoohki | is there a rescue.bin using 2.6 kernel? |
| 20:07.31 | valdyn | sproingie: but thats irrelevant for you I guess |
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| 20:07.36 | mwilson | ryoohki: No. |
| 20:07.37 | ryoohki | mwilson: i am |
| 20:07.42 | mwilson | ryoohki: Unlikely. |
| 20:07.46 | ryoohki | mwilson: i'm in a hurry |
| 20:07.52 | ryoohki | mwilson: ok |
| 20:07.57 | sproingie | well, sorta informs what distro i pick. hardware support in the installer's a good sign |
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| 20:08.41 | valdyn | sproingie: thats a kernel issue and it should not be an indicator because new kernels support more hardware but are untested ( more likely to have real stupid bugs ) |
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| 20:09.01 | sproingie | valdyn: eh, it's not a production machine, it's for dinking around |
| 20:09.03 | streuner_ | which app can i use to open .xls files? |
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| 20:09.05 | sproingie | so i can live with bleeding edge |
| 20:09.07 | streuner_ | in linux |
| 20:09.29 | juhov | streuner_: openoffice.org |
| 20:09.32 | Segers_J | streuner_: openoffice.org |
| 20:09.32 | streuner_ | juhov: thanks. |
| 20:09.40 | valdyn | sproingie: alright, either way you can install debian from _any_ gnu/linux os via debootstrap, even later on |
| 20:09.41 | POVaddct | streuner_: open office, or in console xlhtml |
| 20:10.17 | sproingie | valdyn: oy, that sounds complicated |
| 20:10.50 | valdyn | sproingie: its how the gentoo installer works, so i doubt its to hard |
| 20:10.58 | Segers_J | sproingie: if that sounds complicated, you really don't want bleeding edge. |
| 20:11.20 | sproingie | gentoo installs are not my idea of fun |
| 20:11.31 | valdyn | sproingie: there I agree ) |
| 20:11.33 | Ink_ | apache2 dosn't seem too like me fixing php5 on it :P can someone explain me how i can install php5 into apache2 in debian? |
| 20:11.37 | sproingie | its not that i cant understand it, it's just a lot of manual tedious work |
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| 20:11.48 | mwilson | Ink_: You don't need PHP5. |
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| 20:12.02 | Ink_ | what do you mean, i don't need php5? |
| 20:12.09 | mwilson | You don't. |
| 20:12.13 | sproingie | llnk_: php5 only wants to work with prefork MPM |
| 20:12.15 | Ink_ | well, i want it!? |
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| 20:12.29 | sproingie | lnk_: use the worker mpm and it dies horribly. welcome to PHP |
| 20:12.41 | Ink_ | i want php5.. rather said.. php :P |
| 20:12.51 | Zenethian | Hum.. I suppose that nobody has any KDE 3.4rc1 binaries eh? :) |
| 20:13.10 | Ink_ | And my nick is not Lnk but Ink |
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| 20:13.22 | valdyn | Zenethian: have you looked on alioth? |
| 20:13.27 | sproingie | no wonder autocomplete didnt work |
| 20:13.30 | Zenethian | Hmmm |
| 20:13.33 | sproingie | need a new font |
| 20:13.34 | Ink_ | joh_: har du noe peil på apache2 og php5? |
| 20:13.37 | ireverentReveren | with devfs how do i uninitialize a device (md0) and or recreate it? |
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| 20:14.23 | valdyn | Zenethian: alioth has packages |
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| 20:14.43 | Zenethian | I can't find them on alioth.. |
| 20:15.02 | valdyn | Zenethian: top right has a search form |
| 20:15.02 | Zenethian | but then again I'm not really terribly used to using alioth either, it is probably just off somewhere I am not looking =) |
| 20:15.07 | valdyn | Zenethian: enter "kde" |
| 20:15.23 | Zenethian | yeah, entering "KDE" found the kde/qt maintainers .. |
| 20:15.37 | Zenethian | I'll sniff around. :) thanks. |
| 20:15.42 | valdyn | Zenethian: go ther, select "Project Homepage" |
| 20:16.08 | valdyn | Zenethian: and theres 3.4 packages |
| 20:16.15 | Zenethian | Thanks =) |
| 20:16.43 | ireverentReveren | I recently built a test software raid, and then tore it down. I am trying to use the same disks to build a production raid. Wheni try to build the raid with the command mkraid /dev/md0, syslog reports that md0: already initialized. How do i fix that? |
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| 20:17.47 | superCow007 | ok, so I download the source for a php extension, but the source is for a larger program that several binary packages are created from.. where can I find which options debian's build tools pass to make when building each of these binary packages? |
| 20:18.21 | valdyn | superCow007: theres no "one way" to do that, read debian/rules |
| 20:18.55 | superCow007 | ok.. rules looks helpful.. thanks |
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| 20:19.07 | valdyn | superCow007: its a script |
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| 20:19.39 | Zenethian | yay |
| 20:20.08 | ireverentReveren | dang. I wish i could find some reference on how to fix this |
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| 20:21.35 | nvz | just spent a good 15 minutes picking a splinter out of my finger with a staple :P |
| 20:22.04 | exobyte | is there a way to get, say, netbsd to spit out a linux binary for the same arch? |
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| 20:22.42 | usn | hi all |
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| 20:23.06 | linuxfreck | exobyte: there are howtos on how to setup a cross-compiling environment |
| 20:23.45 | paddy | castle:/# apt-get --purge remove aptitude |
| 20:23.45 | paddy | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 20:23.45 | paddy | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 20:23.45 | paddy | Segmentation fault |
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| 20:23.52 | paddy | ouch |
| 20:24.11 | TwoSchubert | do you know any video4linux related channel on freenode or any other irc server? |
| 20:24.12 | BadMan | what port does swat run on ow? |
| 20:24.17 | BadMan | er on now? |
| 20:24.21 | paddy | any tips what i could do? |
| 20:24.29 | mwilson | Same one it always has. |
| 20:24.35 | TwoSchubert | do you know any video4linux related channel on freenode or any other irc server? |
| 20:24.37 | BadMan | 900? |
| 20:24.45 | ireverentReveren | where should i go to get help on using the devices (i.e. unititializing them) in /dev/? |
| 20:24.46 | juhov | BadMan: netstat -ltp |
| 20:24.50 | BadMan | thx |
| 20:24.55 | mwilson | If that's the one it's always run on. That's why it has documentation. |
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| 20:25.19 | valdyn | paddy: try dpkg --purge remove aptitude, but i strongly assume you have bigger problems than just apt-get crashing |
| 20:25.34 | valdyn | paddy: dpkg --purge aptitude ( ops ) |
| 20:25.36 | suman | hi all, when i play files in xmms...it is playing files but it does not produce sound? |
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| 20:25.41 | suman | what can be the reason? |
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| 20:25.52 | ireverentReveren | suman, permissions? |
| 20:25.53 | paddy | valdyn, what bigger problems? |
| 20:26.06 | ireverentReveren | suman does that user have permissions to /dev/dsp? |
| 20:26.22 | juhov | suman: unmute channels and turn volume up |
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| 20:26.40 | valdyn | paddy: how should i know, reason i say this is that apt-get hardly ever crashes w/o a "bigger" reason |
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| 20:26.53 | suman | juhov: alsa mixer if fine.... |
| 20:27.00 | paddy | its a completely new debian sarge install |
| 20:27.28 | valdyn | paddy: did i try what I said? |
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| 20:27.32 | ireverentReveren | suman as root run 'dmesg>/dev/dsp' see if sound is produced |
| 20:27.32 | valdyn | paddy: did you try what I said? |
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| 20:27.44 | suman | ireverentReveren: /dev/dsp is 660(rw-rw----) |
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| 20:28.19 | paddy | valdyn, no. my main interest is the segmentation fault on "apt-get remove" |
| 20:28.20 | juhov | ireverentReveren: xmms would complain if it couldn't access the devices, wouldn't it? |
| 20:28.31 | suman | juhov: it will |
| 20:28.40 | valdyn | paddy: well. if you dont want to try things, then run gdb on apt-get |
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| 20:28.49 | valdyn | paddy: but I cant walk you thru that |
| 20:28.50 | ireverentReveren | suman juhov oh... been a while since i had that trouble |
| 20:28.50 | suman | ireverentReveren: no sound on dmesg>/dev/dsp |
| 20:29.02 | paddy | valdyn, hang on |
| 20:29.07 | ireverentReveren | suman seems like dsp is not set up right |
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| 20:29.47 | juhov | suman: do you have the snd-pcm-oss module loaded? |
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| 20:30.16 | paddy | valdyn, when i use "dpkg --remove" it writes about dependency problems |
| 20:30.25 | niktaris | hi |
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| 20:31.17 | suman | juhov: it is.... the output is suman:~# lsmod | grep oss |
| 20:31.17 | suman | snd_pcm_oss 54180 0 |
| 20:31.17 | suman | snd_mixer_oss 20288 1 snd_pcm_oss |
| 20:31.17 | suman | snd_pcm 98248 4 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss |
| 20:31.17 | suman | snd 56868 8 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_ak4531_codec |
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| 20:31.24 | suman | suman:~# |
| 20:31.31 | suman | sorry guys forgot |
| 20:31.40 | brynjarh | are there any mail clients out there specially designed for mailing lists? Or is that just wack |
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| 20:32.01 | valdyn | paddy: ok.. lets not mess with those depends. You can reinstall apt, you can try if other programs crash randomly too, you can run memtest86 to check your ram |
| 20:32.06 | suman | brynjarh: mutt, thunderbird |
| 20:32.12 | suman | juhov: it is loaded |
| 20:32.20 | grivell | brynjarh: KMail, Evolution |
| 20:32.24 | chealer | thunderbird...hm..... |
| 20:32.28 | juhov | suman: if you get no sound with "cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp" I think you should check mixer settings and cables and stuff like that once more to make sure... |
| 20:32.31 | paddy | valdyn, alright. thanks a lot so far |
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| 20:32.41 | chealer | I was going to say anti-thunderbird |
| 20:32.54 | j_k | brynjarh: mutt + procmail is a great combo. |
| 20:32.59 | suman | juhov: would checking alsa mixer do? |
| 20:33.04 | BadMan | got a question, from behind a router, instead of my network going through one compusing ipmasq, what would be the best way to setup a file/print server? |
| 20:33.06 | paddy | is there a way to rebuild the dependencies? |
| 20:33.10 | juhov | suman: yes alsamixer is fine |
| 20:33.10 | valdyn | paddy: I strongly assume that you didnt run into a bug in apt-get. |
| 20:33.11 | brynjarh | j_k, I'll check that out. |
| 20:33.13 | BadMan | this would include both windows and linux clients |
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| 20:33.31 | valdyn | paddy: rebuild? why ? |
| 20:33.39 | leonel | Sarge where are you ? |
| 20:33.41 | valdyn | paddy: dependencies are built into each package |
| 20:33.43 | tummyacid | quick question that i couldnt answer in the man page how do i install a .deb package with apt? |
| 20:33.52 | tummyacid | liek one ive already downloaded |
| 20:34.01 | paddy | hm |
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| 20:34.16 | zarchne | What's a good value (cheap but adequate) video card with free drivers for playing 3d games that come with sarge? |
| 20:34.21 | chealer | leonel: you should buy the books. where is Sarge? it's hidden among many bugs |
| 20:34.26 | juhov | tummyacid: why would you not use dpkg directly? |
| 20:34.27 | BadMan | apt-get install /some/link/to/file.deb? |
| 20:34.31 | valdyn | paddy: the dependency tree is generated by apt-get internally out of that information in the package list(s) |
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| 20:34.49 | liviud | what's the password for the iso zipped files ? |
| 20:34.52 | paddy | "apt-get upgrade" does also result in a segmentation fault now |
| 20:34.55 | liviud | on debian.org , i'm talking about the xfs one |
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| 20:35.17 | tummyacid | could not find packge if i give the path |
| 20:35.24 | valdyn | paddy: broken hardware? |
| 20:35.27 | tummyacid | ill man dpkg |
| 20:35.30 | valdyn | paddy: sounds most likely to me |
| 20:35.38 | paddy | and all i did was install sarge like i did 2-3 times already with the base packages, add ssh and samba and now it acts up |
| 20:35.59 | aurax | anyone here uses intel mobo D915GAV ? on linux? |
| 20:36.00 | paddy | the hardware works perfectly since a long time |
| 20:36.07 | valdyn | !depends apt-get |
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| 20:36.15 | valdyn | !depends apt |
| 20:36.17 | dpkg | apt: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) |
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| 20:36.51 | valdyn | paddy: download this from packages.debian.org and install it with dpkg -i |
| 20:37.02 | valdyn | paddy: and apt too naturally |
| 20:37.25 | paddy | but its the newest version for sarge |
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| 20:37.39 | valdyn | paddy: its still broken on your box |
| 20:37.47 | prahal | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/SommaireAide has pr0n can someone with edit cap on the wiki clean/remove this apge ? |
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| 20:37.58 | valdyn | paddy: unless its a hardware fault, naturally |
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| 20:38.30 | tummyacid | anyone here use one of those touch pads for a mouse but everytime you lift your finger the curser jumps half way accross the screen? |
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| 20:38.52 | chealer | prahal: it's an old problem. the admin is tarzeau |
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| 20:39.20 | suman | juhov: restarted alsa, checked alsa-mixer... no mutes all controls r in reds...started xmms ...still no sound.... |
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| 20:40.04 | ireverentReveren | i hate to keep asking, so i am trying something different.... anyone able to explain to me when a device in /dev/ is already initialized? |
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| 20:40.17 | suman | juhov: this prob started when i didnot have udev and i installed it, restarted my comp...usb was not working, so removed sysfs line from the /etc/fstab and rebooted |
| 20:40.19 | prahal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:41.09 | chealer | prahal: AFAIK he's still coming regularly. I admit I don't know why there's no older revision though |
| 20:41.14 | juhov | suman: I don't know anything about udev, and I'm out of ideas, sorry |
| 20:41.24 | sigma957 | where in /proc can I find out what kind of processor is in a system? |
| 20:41.33 | chealer | sigma957: cpuinfo |
| 20:41.33 | juhov | sigma957: cpuinfo |
| 20:41.39 | sigma957 | ah thanks |
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| 20:41.41 | j_k | suman: what if you use /.dev/dsp ? |
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| 20:41.55 | j_k | suman: as in cat /dev/urandom > /.dev/dsp |
| 20:41.59 | suman | j_k: i didnt get u |
| 20:42.17 | j_k | udev bind-mounts your old /dev in /.dev IIRC |
| 20:42.33 | j_k | and mounts a new tmpfs it manages in /dev |
| 20:42.41 | valdyn | !seen tarzeau |
| 20:42.42 | suman | j_k it is producing noise |
| 20:42.42 | dpkg | tarzeau is currently on #debian. Has said a total of 20371 messages. Is idling for 22h 13m 23s |
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| 20:42.54 | chealer | prahal: BTW "You can request editing after you set up a username and password. " |
| 20:43.07 | valdyn | prahal: tarzeau is around plenty |
| 20:43.07 | suman | juhov: urandom produces noise... |
| 20:43.21 | valdyn | prahal: guess you can mail him too |
| 20:43.22 | j_k | suman: then udev is faulty here, i think |
| 20:43.28 | prahal | chealer: well i bookmark it, if i cannot reach tarzeau i will do , thank you |
| 20:43.39 | j_k | suman: what if you cp -a /.dev/dsp /dev/dsp ? |
| 20:43.53 | j_k | suman: would xmms work now ? |
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| 20:43.55 | valdyn | prahal: www.linuks.mine.nu is his box afaik |
| 20:44.40 | dut | hi! I'm update my woody to sarge. I'm want use UTF-8 in X. So, i dpkg-reconfigure locales and install ru_RU.UTF-8 locale. So i cannot input letters in my native lanuage in urxvt... my input looks like trash |
| 20:44.41 | suman | j_k: shold i overwrite the current /dev/dsp? |
| 20:45.07 | valdyn | chealer: i just requested editing, but appearantly authors can set sites to not be editable by others |
| 20:45.09 | dut | What i must do for use unicode in terminal emulator? |
| 20:45.13 | fusibou | anyone know of the possibility of Gnome 2.10 being in experimental this week after release? |
| 20:45.15 | paddy | valdyn, you are huge :-) the manual install fixed it :-) thanks a lot! |
| 20:45.33 | j_k | suman: yes, but the first step would be comparing them with ls -l /.dev/dsp /dev/dsp |
| 20:45.56 | j_k | suman: one possibility is that you have overwritten /dev/dsp with a normal file somehow, such things happen. |
| 20:46.12 | prahal | valdyn: thanks, http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ree/ , i have not found his email but a great rom backup tool (soewhat unknown by otherlinux BIOS related sites afaik :) |
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| 20:46.34 | mwilson | fusibou: If someone sees the need to upload it. |
| 20:46.43 | suman | j_k: actually i remember deleting /dev/dsp once, and rebitted |
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| 20:47.04 | suman | j_k: i ralready have overwritten before i can compare |
| 20:47.26 | j_k | suman: and how does it work now ? |
| 20:47.32 | valdyn | prahal: his mail is on that page you just linked |
| 20:48.45 | suman | j_k: it is the same, btw ls -l of /.dev/dsp is lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Nov 27 20:10 /.dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
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| 20:49.10 | j_k | suman: can you ls -l /dev/dsp0 ? |
| 20:49.35 | suman | j_k: there is no /dev/dsp0 |
| 20:49.36 | j_k | /.dev i mean |
| 20:49.42 | j_k | sorry |
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| 20:50.05 | chealer | valdyn: what do you mean by "sites"? |
| 20:50.05 | suman | j_k: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Nov 27 20:10 /.dev/dsp0 |
| 20:50.05 | prahal | valdyn: found and meailed, thank you |
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| 20:50.30 | sigma957 | this computer has a AMD Duron processor, can I use the kernel image for a k7? or should I use the 686 one? |
| 20:50.46 | valdyn | chealer: wiki authors can flag their additions to not be editable by othors. |
| 20:50.50 | valdyn | chealer: wiki authors can flag their additions to not be editable by others. |
| 20:50.58 | j_k | suman: try /etc/init.d/udev restart and see what /dev/dsp is. |
| 20:51.06 | valdyn | chealer: or so it seems to be since i was not permitted to edit the pr0n |
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| 20:51.52 | valdyn | suman: debians udev doesnt create dsp0, just dsp,dsp1,dsp2 etc... |
| 20:52.18 | j_k | suman: copying /.dev/dsp0 to /dev/dsp should get things working but after a reboot it'd be gone... |
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| 20:52.26 | chealer | valdyn: lock pages? I can't figure out you'd lock less than an entire page |
| 20:52.33 | j_k | suman: so we need to see what udev produces there. |
| 20:52.48 | valdyn | chealer: you , probably, its a whole page |
| 20:53.00 | juhov | suman: which output plugin do you use in xmms by the way? |
| 20:53.02 | valdyn | s/you/yea/ |
| 20:53.25 | j_k | suman: and at the moment /dev/dsp is a dangling symlink due to my bogus advice, which is why it isn't working |
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| 20:54.35 | chealer | !tell k7 about k7 |
| 20:54.36 | dut | hi! I'm update my woody to sarge. I'm want use UTF-8 in X in terminal emulator. So, i dpkg-reconfigure locales and install ru_RU.UTF-8 locale. So, now when i input characters in my native language in urxvt i see only trash in input... What i do wrong? What i must do? |
| 20:54.39 | chealer | oops :) |
| 20:54.45 | chealer | !tell sigma957 about k7 |
| 20:54.50 | deadline | hi, maybe my question is offtopic..but i hope someone can give me a suggestion. im trying to install debian sarge on a firewall box. when its starting do download/save files during the base install, the computer stucks and ends with an download error. i think there is a hardware problem, because when i try to install knoppix, it also stucks at copying files to the hdd. i tried another hdd and also another pcu. still same problem. does anybody |
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| 20:55.30 | j_k | deadline: did you try a memtest86 pass ? |
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| 20:55.49 | deadline | j_k: no, how can i do that? |
| 20:56.18 | j_k | deadline: google for it, raw write it to a floppy, and boot you computer with this. |
| 20:56.26 | ireverentReveren | what do i runt to find out what my dns servers are? |
| 20:56.33 | j_k | deadline: it will take some time, and test your memory for errors. |
| 20:56.33 | beardy | deadline: It's a possibility that memtest is included in knoppix, check the help screens on boot. |
| 20:56.34 | pureone | knoppix has memtest built in dont it? |
| 20:57.16 | juhov | ireverentReveren: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 20:57.18 | valdyn | deadline: www.memtest86.com |
| 20:57.26 | deadline | j_k: beardy can i do this as a command from the console on a livecd also? |
| 20:57.39 | suman | j_k: did the restart...it is still a dangling symlink....but when i restart alsa i hear some small noises from the soeaker... |
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| 20:57.57 | deadline | su you guys suspect the functionality of my memory chips? nothing with the hdd? |
| 20:57.58 | beardy | deadline: No, you have to start it at boot. / boot into it |
| 20:58.06 | valdyn | deadline: no, memtest needs to run from your bootmanager or its own |
| 20:58.12 | suman | juhov: i am using alsa 1.2.10 |
| 20:58.41 | deadline | beardy: valdyn j_k ok lemme try it out.... |
| 20:58.48 | j_k | suman: ah, wait a bit, i'm installing udev here... |
| 20:58.52 | juhov | suman: ok, that's right |
| 20:58.59 | valdyn | suman: alsa 1.2.10? got that from 2007? |
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| 20:59.22 | docgnome | I'm using an external USR Serial modem, and it works like a champ. But when ever I turn on my box, I have to "detect" the modem everytime i want to dialup. I'm also trying to do all this via a terminal so that I don't have to deal with buggy as hell GNOME-PPP which keeps crashing on me |
| 20:59.22 | deadline | btw. do you guys know a nice page for downloading pixmap icons from known apps like nmap, nessus, irssi, ethereal and so on... |
| 20:59.32 | juhov | suman: in that case xmms won't even use /dev/dsp... do you have a /dev/snd directory? |
| 20:59.39 | suman | valdyn: i guess that the version of libalsa |
| 20:59.47 | juhov | valdyn: it's the xmms output plugin version :) |
| 21:00.05 | valdyn | juhov: i see |
| 21:00.09 | suman | juhov: ya i do have /dev/snd |
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| 21:00.28 | ireverentReveren | juhov resolv.cong just says "search" |
| 21:00.37 | juhov | suman: and some/lots of pcm* and control* files under it? |
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| 21:00.46 | suman | btw j_k juhov i am on 2.6.10 |
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| 21:01.05 | suman | juhov: ya abt 12 |
| 21:01.08 | wtf__ | how to make that other users can't see my home dir files? |
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| 21:01.39 | suman | wtf__: change the permissions to ur /home/user to 700 |
| 21:02.08 | j_k | suman: would you mind trying a reboot ? |
| 21:02.17 | j_k | suman: udev seems to create /dev/dsp okay |
| 21:02.30 | wtf__ | suman: thnx |
| 21:02.30 | juhov | suman: that seems about correct also, too bad I'm out of ideas again |
| 21:02.41 | debian`user | I can do a 'welcome.sh' on users login. Where i put this to show on login? |
| 21:02.49 | suman | j_k: i will ...but should i do anything before that...coz i tried it before |
| 21:02.53 | juhov | although I have 118 files under /dev/snd... |
| 21:02.57 | valdyn | wtf__: chmod -R go-rwx <homedir> |
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| 21:03.00 | j_k | suman: but cp -a /.dev/dsp0 /dev/dsp should get you the sound working right now |
| 21:03.21 | j_k | suman: maybe you can try this first |
| 21:03.24 | beardy | docgnome: I have the same problem (but another modem), no solution though, more than to power-off-on the modem before booting the computer.. if I do that, it works fine. |
| 21:03.24 | juhov | j_k: but the xmms alsa output plugin won't even access /dev/dsp |
| 21:03.31 | cygout | debian`user: call it from ~/.bash_profile |
| 21:03.41 | ireverentReveren | ok, what is wrong? I can ssh INTO a box witha static IP on my network (192.168.1.4) and i can get on the web from THIS computer, but the computer i ssh INTO cannot access anything beyond my router (even by IP address) anything obviously wrong" |
| 21:03.47 | wtf__ | how to change the cpufan from 12V to 5V? |
| 21:03.51 | debian`user | cygout, Thanks. |
| 21:03.52 | j_k | suman: are you using the alsa plugin ? |
| 21:04.07 | docgnome | beardy: that doesn't work for me unfortunatly |
| 21:04.16 | valdyn | wtf__: read the manual coming with your mainboard |
| 21:04.37 | wtf__ | valdyn i have no manual ;\ |
| 21:04.41 | wtf__ | and i can't find it on the net |
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| 21:05.04 | suman | j_k: ya i using alsa plugin... also copying doesnt work |
| 21:05.11 | j_k | juhov: something seemed to be wrong with /dev/dsp in the first place. |
| 21:05.15 | beardy | docgnome: Is the modem in the same house as you? Maybe you could use some remote controlled switch to power off and on the modem? |
| 21:05.22 | cygar | ireverentReveren: do you have a default route added ? traceroute and see where you get stucked. |
| 21:05.24 | j_k | suman: ah, okay. |
| 21:05.44 | juhov | j_k: yeah, but seems like it's something else after all |
| 21:06.03 | j_k | suman: can you change any settings, are you sure the output is sent to hw:0 ? |
| 21:06.06 | docgnome | beardy: the modem is right next to me |
| 21:06.13 | ireverentReveren | cygar never mind, i made a change to /etc/network/interfaces (forgot i changes gateways last night) and it just took 10 minutes to propigate the change |
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| 21:06.38 | suman | j_k: how can i check that? |
| 21:06.58 | j_k | suman: I don't know, i don't use xmms |
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| 21:07.04 | juhov | suman: it's in xmms output settings |
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| 21:07.19 | cygar | ireverentReveren: 10 min to propagate? hehe what are you using bgp? :) |
| 21:07.23 | deadline | how can i get dcgui_qt via apt-get or can i download the .deb package somewhere? |
| 21:07.36 | devazion | Hi! Im sorry i have mirror failure on ftp.se.debian.org anybody know how to fix this error? can i remove mirrors? where? |
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| 21:07.50 | ireverentReveren | cygar no.. it is the same machine.. wrong term i guee... it just took it a while to start using the new gateway |
| 21:08.00 | deadline | devazion: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:08.03 | cygar | ireverentReveren: :) |
| 21:08.20 | devazion | deadline: thanks i'll check it out :D |
| 21:08.25 | deadline | devazion: np |
| 21:08.28 | andrew` | any suggestions on good places to purchase a system case in the san francisco bay area? Note that I want to go and see them, not some random website :) |
| 21:08.50 | suman | j_k: hey .... got it fixed... the putput was going to hw:0,4 i set it to hw:0,0 and xmms sounds.... |
| 21:08.57 | punkrockguy318 | When I play an audio CD in my CD drive, i get really choppy playback. Also, I'm only getting ~.5x ripping speed. What could be the problem? |
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| 21:09.26 | suman | juhov: j_k can you explain me the actual problam? was the plugin routing the data to wrong output device? |
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| 21:09.52 | punkrockguy318 | devazion, why would they? |
| 21:09.56 | j_k | suman: yes. |
| 21:09.57 | juhov | suman: that's how I understand it, yes |
| 21:10.12 | Gumby | does anyone know if there are known issues in kde for sarge? I seem to have issues with everything pausing for 1/2 a second every 15 seconds. |
| 21:10.13 | punkrockguy318 | devazion, nevermind, i dont want to start a linux/osx flamewar ;-) |
| 21:10.20 | suman | j_k: now if i reboot should i channge anything? |
| 21:10.33 | devazion | punkrockguy318: yeah so did i think :P but i've heard about a dude that didnt feel like upgrading to panther :) oops sry didnt mean to flame either... just a nice thought :) |
| 21:10.34 | suman | j_k: also what is hw:0,0? |
| 21:10.37 | j_k | suman: no i think everything's ok. |
| 21:10.40 | davix | in americas army the mouse wont move the screen in the game play, in the menu it is responding well as well as the buttons in the gameplay, they all work good, but the mouse won't do the directional job it suppose to do, any ideas? |
| 21:10.47 | j_k | suman: it's the alsa identifier for your device. |
| 21:11.09 | punkrockguy318 | devazion, lol :) i fell in love with osx panther yesterday... so clean... so polished... so stable... mmm, i love it |
| 21:11.12 | Pakal | hello! I've heard that if I insall a lot of different fonts the system will be slower, do you know if this is true? |
| 21:11.13 | j_k | suman: if you've got multiple sound card, the next ones are hw:1, hw:2 and so on |
| 21:11.27 | fusibou | Gumby check dmesg for errors |
| 21:11.33 | devazion | punkrockguy318: yeah, mee to ;) im at "macforum" in göteborg sweden almost all days :P i get horny lol.. i brb need x1 |
| 21:11.48 | j_k | suman: the second component is the subdevice, in case you've got more than one output on the same sound card |
| 21:11.49 | davix | is there a .deb package for mplayer? |
| 21:11.52 | chealer | davix: no |
| 21:11.54 | suman | j_k: ok, but what is hw:0,0 and 0,4? |
| 21:11.55 | chealer | !mplayer |
| 21:11.55 | dpkg | not packaged by debian for licensing issues, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see 'marillat' or 'cerkinfo'' or visit http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, get the right tarball, and dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| 21:12.06 | suman | j_k: oh ok |
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| 21:12.14 | ireverentReveren | is 4kb still the default block size for ext2? |
| 21:12.16 | davix | tnx chealer |
| 21:12.19 | suman | j_k: who sets it? |
| 21:12.28 | chealer | davix: if you don't have that behavior in other games, consider it's AA, and not supported by debian. you're using 2.3.0? |
| 21:12.36 | j_k | suman: you, I guess ! |
| 21:12.44 | Gumby | fusibou: is there any way to get a timestamp for dmesg? |
| 21:12.48 | suman | j_k: btw thanks a lot for the help... juhov thx a lot |
| 21:12.50 | j_k | suman: but maybe xmms detected something bogus |
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| 21:13.04 | davix | actually ubuntu, but i'm asking to see as in if its a known bug, it worked the first time istarted the gamer chealer . |
| 21:13.11 | fusibou | Gumby i dunno sorry |
| 21:13.14 | suman | j_k: ok, but i never touched the config until it stopeed working |
| 21:13.16 | davix | and yeah, i've read the topic |
| 21:13.21 | Gumby | fusibou: there really isnt anything I see in dmesg anyhow. |
| 21:13.26 | cat | !info mplayer |
| 21:13.31 | davix | !mplayer |
| 21:13.31 | dpkg | not packaged by debian for licensing issues, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see 'marillat' or 'cerkinfo'' or visit http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, get the right tarball, and dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| 21:13.39 | j_k | suman: it's strange, just hope it doesn't come up again :-) |
| 21:13.39 | fusibou | Gumby any usb peripherals? |
| 21:13.45 | suman | j_k: ne wayz thx for a lot of learning... |
| 21:13.47 | Gumby | nopw |
| 21:13.47 | cat | !marillat |
| 21:13.47 | dpkg | well, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list |
| 21:13.49 | deadline | mplayer rocks anyway... |
| 21:13.53 | juhov | Gumby: same messages go in /var/log/kern.log and that file has timestamps |
| 21:14.05 | Gumby | fusibou: and the issue seems to only be in kde |
| 21:14.16 | Gumby | I am trying flux right now and I dont have the issue |
| 21:14.27 | deadline | Gumby: keep using fluxbox ;) |
| 21:14.45 | fusibou | Gumby any nfs/network shared drives |
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| 21:15.03 | Madeye | Hi, guys, is there any program to make a phone calls, and recieve phone calls through computer connected to my modem? |
| 21:15.22 | BadMan | I cant seem to connect to swat froma localhost:901 at all can connect to webmin no problem... |
| 21:15.27 | deadline | Madeye: you can use skype and connect to ip-adresses |
| 21:15.34 | fusibou | Madeye gnomemeeting? google also for voip |
| 21:15.49 | suman | Madeye: thats illegal, if you are not buying a service |
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| 21:16.07 | Gumby | when running kde every 15 seconds (or very close to) things will "pause" for a second. Its a real pain as I'll be typing and then it will "pause" and the when the pause is finished the keystroke will be duplicated |
| 21:16.10 | fusibou | suman in what fascist country? |
| 21:16.12 | Madeye | deadline, fusibou no no, I'm not looking for a VOIP, I'm looking to use my normal phone line through computer |
| 21:16.13 | cygar | suman: ??? |
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| 21:16.47 | chealer | BadMan: you know it's not https, just http, right? |
| 21:16.56 | suman | fusibou: i guess it is in india, but i am not sure |
| 21:16.57 | DeaLER34 | what is the best way to host an email server hosting multiple domains but not having conflicting usernames? |
| 21:17.14 | cygar | Madeye: take a look at fxs cards at digium if you want to use linux ( with asterisk ) |
| 21:17.17 | deadline | Madeye: ok, i never tried that. |
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| 21:18.01 | suman | DeaLER34: sympa |
| 21:18.12 | Gumby | fusibou: no network shares, not currently |
| 21:18.13 | fusibou | Gumby you could monitor top to look for spikes in cpu for particular processes |
| 21:18.13 | BadMan | chealer tried both |
| 21:18.23 | Madeye | hmm, What about a caller ID viewer? so when someone call me, I can see his phone number from the Deskop ? |
| 21:18.35 | Gumby | fusibou: tried that already, nothing |
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| 21:18.55 | devazion | That... Felt better! ^^ |
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| 21:19.28 | cygar | Madeye: that depends on the telco if it's sending you or not the ANI. |
| 21:20.02 | Madeye | cygar, its sending it, I'm looking for viewer on desktop |
| 21:20.21 | fusibou | Gumby any kde applets running/trying to phone home? |
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| 21:21.28 | Gumby | fusibou: no idea what might do that. But currently I am in flux so no. |
| 21:22.11 | cygar | Madeye: mh... don't know of any program that do just that. |
| 21:22.32 | chealer | BadMan: sorry I don't know how the ports are handled |
| 21:22.46 | Nosf3ratu | I'm trying to figure out why I can't send outgoing mail. If I manually try to telnet to a mail server's SMTP port, it times out (as is indicated in my postfix logs) what are some possible reasons? |
| 21:23.06 | Gumby | fusibou: just started kicker. Lets see if that is enough to create problems |
| 21:23.09 | DeaLER34 | will Exim+Mysql suppor the same encryption algorithm as /etc/shadow? |
| 21:23.21 | cygar | Nosf3ratu: when does it times out ? trying to connect ? |
| 21:23.25 | Nosf3ratu | cygar, yes. |
| 21:23.35 | caphuso | DeaLER34: about damn near everything supports md5 |
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| 21:23.49 | cygar | Nosf3ratu: are u sure you have something listen()'ing on port 25 TCP ? |
| 21:24.00 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: have you got any iptables rules or other firewalling stuff ? |
| 21:24.28 | Nosf3ratu | cygar, tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 127.0.0.1:35619 ESTABLISHED |
| 21:24.36 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, not that I know of, but this is a fresh install. |
| 21:25.12 | Nosf3ratu | I'm going through the same router/firewall I always have, so I'm sure it's not that... |
| 21:25.45 | Gumby | it seems that kicker is enough to cause the issue. I am going to reboot into kde but not use kicker and see if that works |
| 21:26.08 | fusibou | Nosf3ratu "telnet into smtp port"? |
| 21:26.17 | Nosf3ratu | fusibou, to check connectivity, you know. |
| 21:26.19 | devazion | i missed the conversaition, what ISSUE is it gubmy has with kde stuff? |
| 21:26.24 | Nosf3ratu | fusibou, telnet <host> 25 |
| 21:27.08 | fusibou | devazion pauses every 15 secs |
| 21:27.27 | DeaLER34 | well if i switch to a mysql email user database I don't want to have to get everyone to change their passwords.. |
| 21:27.31 | devazion | fusibou: oouch that hurts :S |
| 21:27.33 | DeaLER34 | just asking |
| 21:27.51 | Nosf3ratu | iptables -L shows empty tables, too. |
| 21:27.54 | Nosf3ratu | so it's not that. :\ |
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| 21:27.56 | DeaLER34 | So i'm guessing by default it is md5/crypt |
| 21:28.06 | cygar | Nosf3ratu: mh... weird. You already have an established connection. Try restarting your mta |
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| 21:28.22 | Nosf3ratu | cygar, been down that road, but I'll try. |
| 21:28.28 | Nosf3ratu | oh...wait |
| 21:28.34 | DeaLER34 | port 25 Nos? |
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| 21:28.37 | Nosf3ratu | is it possible i have two MTAs installed? |
| 21:28.38 | Nosf3ratu | DeaLER34, yes. |
| 21:28.44 | Nosf3ratu | what's the default MTA in sid? |
| 21:28.51 | j_k | exim4 i think |
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| 21:28.58 | Nosf3ratu | ok |
| 21:28.59 | cygar | Nosf3ratu: but just one could have taken the socket |
| 21:29.05 | DeaLER34 | you sure ur not runnin spam assassin or anthor program using that port? |
| 21:29.13 | jjazz | I can't figure out which package contains libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3. apt-cache search ibstdc++-libc6 doesn't return anything. Anybody have a hint? |
| 21:29.20 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: netstat -lp to know who is listening |
| 21:29.25 | DeaLER34 | that f'in libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 |
| 21:29.31 | cygar | Nosf3ratu: I think the default is exim . ( not sure ) |
| 21:29.35 | DeaLER34 | jjazz, just look for libstd++libc |
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| 21:29.44 | DeaLER34 | and install |
| 21:29.54 | jjazz | DeaLER34: thanks |
| 21:30.07 | DeaLER34 | I downloaded libstd for adaptec raid manager but the programming is just shitty |
| 21:30.09 | DeaLER34 | it crashes on me :( |
| 21:30.11 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: just a thought, is name resolution working ok ? |
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| 21:30.19 | DeaLER34 | I guess it was compiled in redhat and with different versions of the libs |
| 21:30.27 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, everywhere else, yes. |
| 21:30.34 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, also, i can ping the box(es) |
| 21:30.37 | cygar | jjazz: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 |
| 21:30.39 | Nosf3ratu | just can't hit 25 on them |
| 21:30.40 | DeaLER34 | did anyone else ever get aacraid adaptec web browser management working in debian? |
| 21:30.56 | fusibou | Nosf3ratu if it's your box, can you portscan it? |
| 21:31.15 | Nosf3ratu | fusibou, i don't have access to an outside machine, unfortunately |
| 21:31.23 | jjazz | cygar: thanks! libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 |
| 21:31.23 | Nosf3ratu | fusibou, you can feel free to and put it in #flood |
| 21:31.33 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: maybe you can use tcpdump to see what's going on more precisely. |
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| 21:31.36 | DeaLER34 | jjazz, why do you need that lib? |
| 21:31.40 | fusibou | Nosf3ratu what about using nessus? |
| 21:31.52 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, netstat -lp | grep smtp shows the following: |
| 21:31.58 | Nosf3ratu | tcp 0 0 *:smtp *:* LISTEN 13665/master |
| 21:32.01 | Nosf3ratu | tcp6 0 0 *:smtp *:* LISTEN 13665/master |
| 21:32.14 | jjazz | DeaLER34: nxclient... every few months I play with freenx and see if it's ready to use |
| 21:32.24 | Nosf3ratu | fusibou, sorry...what's nessues? |
| 21:32.32 | Nosf3ratu | s/nessues/nessus |
| 21:33.00 | fusibou | !nessus |
| 21:33.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nessus is a security scanner with 209 plugins, available at http://www.nessus.org |
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| 21:33.14 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: well i don't think your local mta is faulty anyway... |
| 21:33.28 | cygar | Nosf3ratu: tcpdump -nvvv port 25 and telnet localhost 25 take a look on what's going on. |
| 21:33.56 | j_k | cygar: i don't think localhost is the unreachable mail server, is it Nosf3ratu ? |
| 21:34.15 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, I don't either. |
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| 21:34.38 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, no no. |
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| 21:34.41 | Nosf3ratu | other mail servers. |
| 21:34.44 | Nosf3ratu | local mail works fine. |
| 21:34.58 | cygar | Nosf3ratu: oh you are not being able to connect to a remote MTA ? |
| 21:35.01 | Nosf3ratu | but i have a couple little perl scripts that i run as nightly crons and they aren't emailing results to my destinations. |
| 21:35.03 | chealer | is it normal that X takes an average 5% CPU since about 2 minutes without anything intensive-looking to me going on? Barton 2500+ |
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| 21:35.26 | Nosf3ratu | syslog is showing timeouts when trying to connect to remote respective mailservers. |
| 21:35.41 | Nosf3ratu | i tried sending a couple test emails to people in my address book through mutt: same results |
| 21:35.46 | Nosf3ratu | just timing out |
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| 21:36.35 | valdyn | chealer: depending on your gfx driver even top running in a terminal could do that |
| 21:36.43 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: the tcpdump thing would help you see what happens during the connexion better, anyway. |
| 21:36.53 | valdyn | chealer: running in gnome-terminal at least |
| 21:37.24 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, #flood please? |
| 21:37.31 | j_k | yeah |
| 21:37.41 | Meltir | Nosf3ratu: a friend of mine recently has been having trouble with some mail servers coz they started to require a rdns... |
| 21:38.07 | chealer | valdyn: well, kdeguard is running, so I suppose I just didn't notice yet X used that. thanks |
| 21:38.08 | cygar | Meltir: it is a good practice to enable rdns. |
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| 21:39.23 | Nosf3ratu | rdns =? |
| 21:39.26 | Nosf3ratu | you mean like bind? |
| 21:39.27 | Meltir | just a idea i thougt was worth mentioning - he didnt get any errors from the servers, took him a while to find one that gave him any error message at all |
| 21:39.28 | cygar | Nosf3ratu: reverse dns |
| 21:39.40 | sigma957 | I just changed from a 2.6.8 kernel image to 2.6.10. on boot, I get a bunch of messages about stuff like "sc1200 device or resource busy". I can't seem to find the actual errors logged anywhere. why is this coming up on 2.6.10? it doesn't seem to effect anything badly |
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| 21:40.00 | deadline | what can i do to get dcgui_qt? compiling it from source failed several times, so im wondering if there is a .deb package. maybe via apt-get? |
| 21:40.40 | cygar | deadline: dcgui-qt - graphical client for Direct Connect |
| 21:40.54 | Meltir | Nosf3ratu: supposibly for spam protection - they dont accept anything from a host that doesnt have a dns entry, and a matching rdns entry |
| 21:40.59 | Nosf3ratu | cygar, well it should reverse to my dyndns domain. |
| 21:41.03 | deadline | cygar: i dont have it in my apt sources. im on testing sarge |
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| 21:42.06 | deadline | cygar: sarge:/home/deadline# apt-cache search dcgui-qt |
| 21:42.07 | deadline | sarge:/home/deadline# |
| 21:42.11 | davix | what music composing/sequencing programs can i use in linux? |
| 21:42.24 | deadline | davix: cubase i guess? |
| 21:42.25 | paulswm | deadline: In sarge, there's the GTK version: dcgui |
| 21:42.35 | m0p | Hmm. Is Debian named after Toy Story characters or something? I just noticed that all of the releases on the site have names of toy story characters lmao! |
| 21:42.36 | davix | deadline, in linux |
| 21:42.44 | deadline | paulswm: i know, but the interface is *really* confusing |
| 21:42.53 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: if it's something on your side, it's really strange |
| 21:43.03 | Xenguy | m0p: yup |
| 21:43.08 | deadline | davix: like i heard there is cubase for linux also, otherwise check audio logic also |
| 21:43.13 | devazion | deadline: if i remember correctly dcgui_qt was replaced becouse it was confusing too (way more than gtk version) and there is new one i will look for it for you :) |
| 21:43.24 | davix | k tnx |
| 21:43.39 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, i don't see how it could be anything on my side |
| 21:43.40 | deadline | devazion: that would be nice:) |
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| 21:43.53 | devazion | deadline: i'll tell you when i find it :) |
| 21:43.55 | fusibou | davix audacity |
| 21:44.11 | jak | hello. does anyone know how to see on which frequency my cpu works? |
| 21:44.13 | fusibou | !audacity |
| 21:44.14 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, audacity is a multi-track audio editor. It is designed for easy recording, playing and editing of digital audio. Editing is very fast and provides unlimited undo/redo. To be found at http://audacity.sourceforge.net. |
| 21:44.24 | Gathond | jak: /proc/cpuinfo |
| 21:44.28 | Nosf3ratu | jak, "on which frequency"? |
| 21:44.28 | Meltir | jak: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 21:44.33 | davix | fusibou, auda is for editing, i need sequencing as well. |
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| 21:44.40 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: you can try 'telnet sprite.fr.eu.org 25' if you wish (that's my box) |
| 21:44.49 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: to see if it's working better.. |
| 21:44.55 | devazion | deadline: valknut i think it is :) |
| 21:44.59 | jak | Nosf3ratu: yeah... playing around with frequency scaling... |
| 21:44.59 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, trying... |
| 21:45.03 | Nosf3ratu | jak, let me know what you see that. |
| 21:45.09 | Nosf3ratu | jak, i see. worded strangely. |
| 21:45.10 | jak | i finally brought that daemon to run ... |
| 21:45.19 | jak | but i dunno if it works... |
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| 21:45.24 | deadline | devazion: apt-cache cant search for valknut. btw valknut is the dcgui-qt version with another name i think:) |
| 21:45.32 | Nosf3ratu | er.. j_k, i meant. let me know if you see any activity there. |
| 21:45.38 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: and if you can't fix this, you can always configure your MTA to do the delivery work itself. |
| 21:45.42 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: okay. |
| 21:45.43 | lee__ | is there anyway to disable files from making .txt~ backups |
| 21:45.45 | drp | are there logitech mouse drivers for debian |
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| 21:45.51 | drp | my scroll doesn't work |
| 21:46.09 | jak | drp: its likely that this is a problem of your x configuration |
| 21:46.13 | fusibou | davix http://linuxmusician.com/index.php |
| 21:46.14 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: you can try now. |
| 21:46.19 | devazion | deadline: argh.. sorry then ithats what i remembered |
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| 21:46.29 | drp | jak: it worked on my other mouse |
| 21:46.34 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, I have been trying. :( |
| 21:46.37 | Nosf3ratu | maybe it's here? |
| 21:46.44 | drp | any suggestions |
| 21:46.49 | deadline | devazion: no problem. do you have it your apt-sources? |
| 21:46.49 | devazion | drp: ZAxisMapping "4 5" |
| 21:46.57 | devazion | deadline: i will look |
| 21:47.12 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: tcpdump -n port 25 isn't showing anything, unhappily |
| 21:47.21 | Nosf3ratu | interesting, j_k |
| 21:47.34 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: oh, f..., i was listening on the LAN |
| 21:47.37 | drp | devazion: where do I set that up at |
| 21:47.39 | Nosf3ratu | hehe |
| 21:47.47 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, let me know if you want me to restart |
| 21:47.55 | Nosf3ratu | if/when |
| 21:48.02 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: mind trying again ? |
| 21:48.08 | devazion | drp: in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
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| 21:48.11 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, trying now. |
| 21:48.17 | drp | thanks |
| 21:48.20 | deadline | devazion: i found a valknut .deb package. but its for woody, can i use it on sarge anyway? |
| 21:48.36 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, it resolves...then nothing. |
| 21:48.57 | devazion | deadline: sure try it :) should work |
| 21:49.07 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: yeah, i'm not getting anything either |
| 21:49.18 | drp | devazion: that line was in there already |
| 21:49.21 | Nosf3ratu | so weird. |
| 21:49.34 | devazion | then what protocol do you use with your mouse? try imps2 |
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| 21:49.50 | cygar | j_k: do you get the SYN from Nosf3ratu? |
| 21:49.52 | devazion | drp: ImPS/2 |
| 21:49.57 | drp | it is using that |
| 21:50.10 | devazion | drp: sry, thats what i had to offer... dunno whats wrong then |
| 21:50.11 | Kly | www.otomotivshow.com |
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| 21:50.14 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: ... and it works from a friend's box, so something is blocking on your side |
| 21:50.21 | drp | k thanks anyway though |
| 21:50.25 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: a bad firewall in between or something. |
| 21:50.29 | deadline | devazion: are you serious or just kidding? |
| 21:50.29 | drp | any other suggestions from anyone else |
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| 21:51.05 | Nosf3ratu | hmm |
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| 21:51.11 | Nosf3ratu | i'd say i'd try another mta |
| 21:51.12 | devazion | deadline: i dont see why it shouldnt work. unless there is broken packages there shall work |
| 21:51.18 | Nosf3ratu | but telnet would work, if that were the case. |
| 21:51.24 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: oh, no, your mta is okay. |
| 21:51.30 | Nosf3ratu | i'll try stopping postfix and make sure |
| 21:51.33 | cat | telnet sux |
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| 21:51.58 | j_k | cat: how can this be relevant ? |
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| 21:52.09 | j_k | cat: (honest question) |
| 21:52.17 | cat | !telnet |
| 21:52.17 | dpkg | telnet is probably an old protocol for remotely logging in to another computer. It is one of the basic utilities for TCP/IP. It is very insecure as it sends all traffic in plaintext! Seriously consider using ssh instead. see telnet-ssl, this one has encryption and certificates support (but that's useless without a remote telnetd-ssl except to play and telnet to ... |
| 21:52.32 | lenux | hi |
| 21:52.36 | soften | telnet rox |
| 21:52.37 | Nosf3ratu | cat, we're debugging. stop trying to pretend like you're contributing please. |
| 21:52.42 | Nosf3ratu | we don't need your $.02 |
| 21:52.42 | j_k | cat: yeah, but it's about testing connections here :-) |
| 21:52.49 | cat | oh ic, |
| 21:52.51 | BadMan | lol |
| 21:52.54 | chealer | drp: what's your mouse protocol? |
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| 21:53.06 | lenux | can ne1 helme with fire walls |
| 21:53.11 | drp | Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" |
| 21:53.14 | Nosf3ratu | !ne1 |
| 21:53.14 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 21:53.45 | cygar | Nosf3ratu: take a look at your router, or your isp is blocking you. ( I 've seen some isps doing that to prevent dsl/cable customers to do spam ) |
| 21:54.08 | Nosf3ratu | cygar, i wouldn't be too surprised... |
| 21:54.10 | Nosf3ratu | oh, i know |
| 21:54.12 | chealer | drp: do you know what's your mouse exactly? |
| 21:54.14 | Nosf3ratu | i'll try from another box on the lan |
| 21:54.21 | drp | mx510 |
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| 21:54.39 | lenux | anyone help me firewalls and networing between xp.... |
| 21:55.03 | chealer | drp: is it USB or PS/2? and what's the device? |
| 21:55.15 | deadline | i managed to apt-get install dcgui-qt (with cygar's help), but this ends in an dependencies error: |
| 21:55.23 | drp | it's a usb but i have a ps/2 converter on it |
| 21:55.25 | deadline | dcgui-qt: Depends: libdc0 (>= 0.3.1) but it is not going to be installed |
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| 21:55.45 | deadline | i managed to apt-get install dcgui-qt (with cygar's help), but this ends in an dependencies error: dcgui-qt: Depends: libdc0 (>= 0.3.1) but it is not going to be installed. any ideas what to do now? |
| 21:55.46 | drp | /dev/input/mice |
| 21:55.48 | pantoffel | HellO. IS THERE nbz support for debian on some client? |
| 21:56.23 | soften | "woody debs" and "newer debs" often don't mix. you can mix testing/unstable/experimental to your heart's content usually, but woody is old enough that it doesn't play well with the others |
| 21:56.26 | paxmaster | hi i am having a problem with displaying a remote computer i could connect to it but unable to launch a program such as firefox for webmin or whatever |
| 21:56.29 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: isn't your ISP providing an outgoing SMTP server ? This one shouldn't be blocked, hopefully. |
| 21:57.01 | drp | paxmaster: how are you logging into the machine ... which protocol |
| 21:57.03 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, yeah, I can always use that, I suppose... |
| 21:57.04 | chealer | deadline: what's your release? |
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| 21:57.16 | Nosf3ratu | but :( i don't like not knowing the answer to stuff like this |
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| 21:57.30 | deadline | chealer: release of what? debian sarge... |
| 21:57.32 | paxmaster | ssh -X -l hostname |
| 21:57.33 | kingsley_ | drp: If you'd like, I'll cut and paste the lines from my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file which allow the scroll wheel on my Logitech Trackman Wheel to work. |
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| 21:57.42 | chealer | drp: I don't really know, but I would probably try /dev/psaux |
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| 21:57.56 | Meltir | Nosf3ratu: did anyone try to nmap you ? |
| 21:57.59 | valdyn | paxmaster: ForwardX11 needs to be on on the remote hosts sshd_config |
| 21:58.02 | drp | kingsley_: sure #flood |
| 21:58.08 | soften | perhaps consider "get it working" first, then after that "knowing the answer." I find in the majority of cases, "knowing the answer" is usually not one of the things that needs to happen to "get it working" |
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| 21:58.39 | Nosf3ratu | Meltir, no. |
| 21:58.46 | drp | paxmaster: that's what I was going to suggest ... sorry |
| 21:58.48 | Nosf3ratu | Meltir, it's outgoing, though... |
| 21:58.56 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, can't telnet to your machine from another box on the lan either. |
| 21:58.58 | chealer | deadline: that's what I was asking. but dcgui-qt isn't in sarge, so it's probably just uninstallable |
| 21:59.00 | lenux | can anyone help with firewall problems.....or getting xp and linux 2 c each other samba doesnt see xp computer |
| 21:59.03 | Nosf3ratu | unless it's my firewall, but i doubt that. |
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| 21:59.10 | kingsley_ | drp: OK, they're in #flood. I'd be interested to know if it works. |
| 21:59.11 | deadline | chealer: ok thanks |
| 21:59.13 | paxmaster | so then what should i do |
| 21:59.13 | Nosf3ratu | lenux, how about "to see"? |
| 21:59.14 | FieldySnuts | #samba |
| 21:59.37 | valdyn | paxmaster: edit sshd_config on your remote host |
| 21:59.40 | Meltir | lenux: tldp.org |
| 21:59.49 | paxmaster | ok |
| 21:59.55 | kingsley_ | drp: I assume that you'll need to restart X to test them. |
| 21:59.57 | drp | kingsley_: k ... I'm gonna do that , I'll let you know |
| 22:00.02 | cygar | deadline: try upgrading libdc0 first |
| 22:00.06 | drp | kingsley_: yeah I was going to |
| 22:00.15 | chealer | pantoffel: what's nbz? |
| 22:00.56 | paxmaster | and make ForwardX11 enable |
| 22:00.56 | paxmaster | ok let me try that brb |
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| 22:03.12 | Nosf3ratu | j_k, you still there? or cyg? |
| 22:03.13 | Nosf3ratu | check this out: |
| 22:03.19 | Nosf3ratu | [17:02:16][zrizer@frodo] |
| 22:03.21 | Nosf3ratu | [~]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute -p 25 zrizer.ath.cx |
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| 22:03.31 | Nosf3ratu | after a few hops |
| 22:03.32 | Nosf3ratu | then: |
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| 22:03.33 | Nosf3ratu | 18 rback6-fa2-0.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net (66.73.123.233) 113.026 ms 28.271 ms 29.216 ms |
| 22:03.37 | Nosf3ratu | 19 * * * |
| 22:03.39 | Nosf3ratu | :( |
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| 22:04.03 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: I can't contact your MTA either, i'm afraid. |
| 22:04.07 | Nosf3ratu | so it looks like my ISP decided, on the very same day that I installed debian-amd64 fresh, to start blocking 25 from their hosts. |
| 22:04.13 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: is it on the box you're ircing from ? |
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| 22:04.25 | Nosf3ratu | no, frodo is at my old university |
| 22:04.29 | Nosf3ratu | thank god for lazy admins :) |
| 22:04.43 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: ah, okay. |
| 22:04.50 | Nosf3ratu | so, problem solved i guess |
| 22:05.00 | Nosf3ratu | i hope Mail::SendMail supports remote host usage... |
| 22:05.25 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: well, your MTA does, which is what matters |
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| 22:06.14 | j_k | Nosf3ratu: use the smarthost from your ISP, you can probably still receive mails on your box if you wish. |
| 22:06.37 | Nosf3ratu | i'll have to look into that |
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| 22:07.22 | ribnitz | heyas |
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| 22:07.27 | drp | kingsley_: yeah that worked ... it was switching the device to /dev/psaux that did it |
| 22:07.42 | drp | thanks to whoever else suggested switching the device to /dev/psaux |
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| 22:08.09 | drp | yeah that's right |
| 22:08.20 | kingsley_ | drp: Congratulations. |
| 22:08.21 | intero | know what pkg would help to solve this problem? checking for res_mkquery in -lresolv... no --> configure: error: No resolver library found |
| 22:08.28 | ribnitz | Recommendations for an editor to do latex stuff (no, I don't need a gui for latex).. |
| 22:08.32 | drp | you're the man chealer, I don't care what dpkg says about you |
| 22:09.02 | drp | ribnitz: emacs |
| 22:09.03 | Nosf3ratu | thanks for all your help j_k |
| 22:09.18 | maher | ribnitz: emacs with latex mode |
| 22:09.19 | ribnitz | drp: if I use xemacs, what all do I need? |
| 22:09.26 | chealer | drp: haha. I can be really annoying at times though |
| 22:09.50 | chealer | I don't know why http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ConfiguringX doesn't talk about /dev/psaux probably just not adapted to sarge yet |
| 22:09.56 | maher | ribnitz: load a tex file - does it have pretty colours? |
| 22:09.58 | drp | ribnitz: like ribnitz said ... latex modd |
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| 22:10.18 | drp | maher rather |
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| 22:10.40 | ribnitz | maher: I currenlty use vim for editing, don't have any emacs on the system yet. do I want/need mulesupport? |
| 22:10.45 | drp | yeah emacs is nice for latex stuff |
| 22:10.47 | maher | ribnitz: dunno |
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| 22:11.04 | pipeline | ribnitz: mule is for internationalized text input |
| 22:11.22 | ribnitz | pipeline: beyond the iso8859-15? |
| 22:11.53 | pipeline | ribnitz: Emacs is so fucking old and crufty that it has its own fonts, its own font format, its own input methods, its own font rendering, and its own internationalization crap. If you're not typing japanese into it, you don't need mule or canna. |
| 22:12.15 | deadline | dcgui really sucks |
| 22:12.26 | ribnitz | pipeline: Your a vim guy,right? |
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| 22:12.36 | pipeline | deadline: Yes. Use the qt DC client. It's not KDE-ized, but it's much, much nicer than dcgui. |
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| 22:12.47 | ckebabo | . |
| 22:12.54 | deadline | pipeline: i know, but i cannot install it on sarge...:S |
| 22:12.56 | pipeline | ribnitz: No, I hate vim. Grotesquely overfeatured. I use xemacs and nvi. |
| 22:13.04 | pipeline | deadline: Why not? |
| 22:13.24 | deadline | pipeline: dependencies error |
| 22:13.34 | difeta | how can i set the locale on my system? |
| 22:13.35 | ribnitz | pipeline: vim runs in 16mb, xemacs needs how much?- 150mb? |
| 22:13.45 | maher | difeta: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 22:13.48 | pipeline | ribnitz: You know the old saw about emacs. Eight megs and constantly swapping. |
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| 22:13.53 | pipeline | ribnitz: nvi runs in 64k. |
| 22:13.59 | difeta | maher, thanks |
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| 22:14.13 | deadline | pipeline: can you support me in installing dcgui-qt ? |
| 22:14.16 | pipeline | ribnitz: vim fails as a stripped down editor and fails as a full-featured editor. It drives me nuts. |
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| 22:14.21 | ribnitz | pipeline: I dont care now, I have enogh disk/ram... |
| 22:14.36 | pipeline | deadline: There shouldn't be dependency errors in sarge :P |
| 22:14.37 | ribnitz | pipeline: Its nice to do quick text editing. |
| 22:14.54 | ribnitz | pipeline: but thats a religious war, I guess. |
| 22:15.13 | deadline | pipeline: i had to insert unstable sources to get dcgui-qt available |
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| 22:15.19 | paulswm | !start an editor war |
| 22:15.19 | dpkg | joe doesn't deserve to be in debian |
| 22:15.27 | pipeline | ribnitz: And so is nvi. And nvi doesn't drive me insane with unexpected "extra" features or an extended startup time. If I want features, I'll use scite or xemacs or kate. If I want to do a quick editing job, I'll use a less over-the-top vi derivative :P |
| 22:15.45 | pipeline | deadline: Make sure you set your pins correctly, then. |
| 22:15.59 | deadline | pipeline: what do you mean with 'pins' ? |
| 22:15.59 | Nosf3ratu | how can you get postfix to use smtp authentication? |
| 22:16.03 | ribnitz | pipeline: like nvi. :) |
| 22:16.10 | pipeline | deadline: Pin sarge at a higher priority than unstable, then "apt-get -t unstable install dcgui-qt" |
| 22:16.16 | pipeline | ribnitz: Ed zachary. |
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| 22:16.44 | ribnitz | pipeline: I think the choice currently, nano, isnt too bad. |
| 22:16.56 | deadline | pipeline: dcgui-qt: Depends: libdc0 (>= 0.3.1) but it is not going to be installed |
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| 22:17.42 | pipeline | deadline: Your pinning is bad. |
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| 22:18.13 | pipeline | deadline: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 22:18.15 | deadline | pipeline: sorry, can you tell me what to do exactly? |
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| 22:18.40 | pipeline | deadline: Fix your pinning so that testing has a higher priority than unstable, then "apt-get -t unstable install dcgui-qt" |
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| 22:20.22 | tot_io | Hello, anybody knows a website with OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta *.deb because, i try to install from those rpms from official website and i have an error to writer... |
| 22:20.51 | ribnitz | tot_io: I doubt you'll findit that early. |
| 22:21.29 | tot_io | but succeded someboy to install OO2.0 beta on debian ? |
| 22:21.33 | octavious | what package contains agetty? |
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| 22:22.14 | pipeline | tot_io: Don't install rpm's on your debian system. |
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| 22:22.25 | pipeline | tot_io: There are Debian "experimental" packages out there. I wouldn't use them. |
| 22:22.26 | tot_io | i used alien to make debs |
| 22:22.59 | tot_io | anyway, it`s just a test sistem... |
| 22:23.23 | BadMan | ummm Im kinda lost on my chmod.. I need to set a folder so that users of samba can r/w in the directory isit 660? |
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| 22:23.49 | mwilson | BadMan: man chmod |
| 22:24.05 | deadline | pipeline: i pinned testing higher than unstable but still got the same error |
| 22:24.53 | pipeline | deadline: You have to include the "-t unstable" option when you attempt to install. |
| 22:24.53 | mwilson | hm, mutt-ng |
| 22:24.53 | deadline | pipeline: i do |
| 22:24.53 | pipeline | deadline: Also, you may have already mangled stuff when you attempted to install the first time. do an "apt-get -f install" |
| 22:24.53 | BadMan | if I am right then it is 660 |
| 22:25.11 | pipeline | deadline: In addition, you may have some other packages installed that depend on some previous version of libdc, which you need to remove. |
| 22:25.38 | deadline | pipeline: what packages could that be? already removed and purged dcgui |
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| 22:26.27 | pipeline | deadline: dcgui is a frontend to the command line dc client. |
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| 22:28.19 | deadline | pipeline: seems like a unsolvable issue? |
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| 22:30.48 | deadline | pipeline: check #flood please for the complete error output |
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| 22:34.53 | deadcat | how can i make logger only send to one file instead of /var/log/{messages,syslog} at the same time? |
| 22:35.08 | mwilson | deadcat: You don't. |
| 22:35.14 | deadcat | doh |
| 22:35.27 | mwilson | deadcat: Since it's not logger that controls that in any way, it's whatever logging daemon you use. |
| 22:35.38 | ribnitz | deadcat: the ideas of those files is that they capture different "views" |
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| 22:37.07 | deadcat | i am root-tail'ing most of the logfiles and i just wnat to display my hd temp to one file with logger(1) |
| 22:37.45 | ribnitz | deadcat: use munin (or similar) |
| 22:37.46 | mozrat | hey Guys, how do I create an initial SNMP v3 user? I don't think you can use snmpusm for the first one, and entering createUser.... in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf doesn't seem to work |
| 22:38.15 | deadcat | ribnitz: k. but i am just gonna >> to ~/.xsession-errors |
| 22:38.51 | mwilson | Ah, I like dspam |
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| 22:41.07 | m0p | ok, very stupid noob question here. How the hell do I stop X and gdm? |
| 22:41.24 | mozrat | m0p: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 22:41.27 | kaber1 | hey |
| 22:41.39 | mozrat | m0p: Or hit Ctrl+Fn+F1 |
| 22:41.46 | m0p | k |
| 22:41.48 | kaber1 | ca-backspace kills the xserver, but my xserver keeps coming to life. using anew monitor and scan rate is not compatabile |
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| 22:42.02 | m0p | will that stop X and gdm? |
| 22:42.06 | mozrat | m0p, the second way won't stop it though, just drop you into a tty |
| 22:42.10 | kaber1 | is there a way to boot debian without x launching, cause i think my xinit file is set so that it will auto launch x |
| 22:42.12 | m0p | oh |
| 22:42.27 | m0p | start in runlevel3? |
| 22:42.38 | m0p | I'm not sure. |
| 22:42.39 | maher | !faq |
| 22:42.39 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 22:42.39 | mozrat | kaber1: run grep default /etc/inittab and see which runlevel you are starting in |
| 22:42.48 | stew | m0p: not unless he setup runlevel 3 specifically for that |
| 22:43.11 | m0p | mozrat, /etc/init.d/gdm stop - will that stop X and gdm? |
| 22:43.18 | mozrat | m0p: yep |
| 22:43.32 | stew | kaber1: you can set a different runlevel to not have the dm started, then pass the runlevel to the kernel from the bootloader |
| 22:43.37 | m0p | k |
| 22:43.49 | deadline | i still have problems installing dcgui-qt on debian sarge, please check #flood for the error output. how can i fix this annoying problem? |
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| 22:46.22 | m0p | Hmm, I am trying to install ATi drivers for XFree86. Has anyone tried these? http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 22:46.27 | gilles | .eu is born!! |
| 22:46.30 | lonny | nope |
| 22:46.39 | m0p | I need to know if they work and if they are worth trying. |
| 22:46.59 | lonny | I'm having a problem w/ untaring stuff in sarge |
| 22:47.02 | gilles | that's a great news for europe! |
| 22:47.06 | lonny | is anyone good with sarge...and untarring? |
| 22:47.09 | lispy | i want to have apt'able packages cached on one computer on my network and the other computers to pull packages from there. What software should i use for doing this? |
| 22:47.12 | drac | m0p: they work |
| 22:47.22 | valdyn | deadline: file a bugreport if no one did yet |
| 22:47.22 | m0p | are they any good? |
| 22:47.26 | maher | lonny: what do you type - what happens |
| 22:47.32 | cygar | lispy: apt-move |
| 22:47.53 | deadline | valdyn: never done that before. how? |
| 22:48.01 | lonny | tar -xzvf patch.--can't remember the name, but it's .gz |
| 22:48.06 | valdyn | deadline: in a shell, type reportbug |
| 22:48.23 | kaber1 | i got it |
| 22:48.24 | lonny | what happens is it gives me a "base64 header error" |
| 22:48.26 | kaber1 | cntrl-alt-f2 |
| 22:48.35 | lispy | cygar: thanks |
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| 22:48.48 | valdyn | deadline: the same package is broke in sid too btw so no idea where you can find a fix, you *might* have success rebuilding that package |
| 22:48.50 | lispy | cygar: is apt-proxy no longer used? |
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| 22:49.10 | lonny | hold on...I'm going to open an SSH client so I can just do the command right now and tell you the output |
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| 22:49.30 | cygar | lispy: I've used apt-move like 4 years ago when I needed to do exactly what you want. Haven't used apt-proxy. |
| 22:49.38 | jetscreamer | whoa cool, garnome |
| 22:49.57 | valdyn | deadline: trying to build it |
| 22:50.17 | lispy | cygar: okay, i just read the description of apt-move. Looks good. |
| 22:50.32 | deadline | valdyn: build what? libdc0 ? |
| 22:50.50 | valdyn | deadline: no, dcgui-qt |
| 22:50.53 | lonny | maher, still here? |
| 22:51.10 | maher | lonny: yes |
| 22:51.17 | lonny | ok...here is the output: |
| 22:51.19 | deadline | valdyn: tried that yesterday, failed a lot of times with different errors. made me surrendering |
| 22:51.29 | aurax | anyone here uses 915G chipset of intel on linux ? |
| 22:51.39 | lonny | tar: This does not look like a tar archive |
| 22:51.45 | lonny | tar: Skipping to next header |
| 22:51.52 | valdyn | deadline: how did you try? with apt-get? |
| 22:51.58 | lonny | tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers |
| 22:52.06 | maher | lonny: what command to do you type |
| 22:52.25 | lonny | tar: Read 3195 bytes from patch-2.X.XX.gz (I edited the numbers) |
| 22:52.32 | valdyn | deadline: anyway , compiling atm, ill let you know if it succeeds |
| 22:52.33 | lonny | tar: Error exit delayed form previous error |
| 22:52.49 | mwilson | grrrrrr |
| 22:52.49 | lonny | maher: I typed tar -zxvf patch-2.x.xx.gz |
| 22:52.55 | deadline | also with apt, but after that to compile from source, but this really escalated in installing a lot of libpackages without any use actually |
| 22:53.10 | maher | lonny: what does file patch... say |
| 22:53.11 | deadline | valdyn: ok, you are on sarge too? |
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| 22:53.26 | apnea | lonny: does it end with tar.gz? |
| 22:53.29 | robertg | Ohnoes! ROOT! |
| 22:53.31 | valdyn | deadline: ok, tried and failed ( in sid ) |
| 22:53.50 | deadline | valdyn: ok. failed with what message? |
| 22:53.53 | lonny | apnea, just .gz I got it from kernel.org |
| 22:53.53 | lonny | tar: This does not look like a tar archive |
| 22:53.53 | lonny | tar: Skipping to next header |
| 22:53.53 | lonny | tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers |
| 22:53.53 | lonny | tar: Read 3195 bytes from patch-2.4.28.gz |
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| 22:54.06 | valdyn | deadline: looks like it needs an older libqt version, not gonna work on fixing that |
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| 22:54.18 | lonny | hey |
| 22:54.23 | valdyn | deadline: dciconloader.cpp:48: error: `GetDatadir' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 22:54.25 | deadline | valdyn: ok |
| 22:54.30 | lonny | sorry...I just got kicked cause I accidently flooded... |
| 22:54.36 | lonny | what were you guys saying? |
| 22:54.44 | deadline | valdyn: seems like a lot of work.... |
| 22:54.48 | maher | lonny: what does file <patchwhatever> say |
| 22:54.55 | apnea | lonny: you're using the wrong tool ÄŸpal. tais for tar files which has tar or tar.xx entension |
| 22:55.08 | apnea | lonny: try zcat patch-file|patch -p1 etc. |
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| 22:55.16 | apnea | lonny: or gunzip the file |
| 22:55.21 | lonny | maher:what do you mean, the patch ##, or what happens after I type the command? |
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| 22:55.49 | valdyn | deadline: yea |
| 22:55.52 | maher | lonny: type "file <name of file you are try to unpack>" and then type the output into this channel |
| 22:56.04 | lonny | maher: ok |
| 22:56.10 | apnea | maher: it's just a gz file as far as understand |
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| 22:56.18 | valdyn | deadline: and it could be any other library that thing is trying to compile against |
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| 22:56.23 | lonny | apnea: I think you might have gotten it, I was thinking it was considered the same as tar.gz |
| 22:56.25 | deadline | valdyn: are there other apps doing the same work like dcgui-qt? |
| 22:56.34 | xeLo | a |
| 22:56.34 | lonny | I'll try what both you said and tell you what happens |
| 22:56.36 | deadline | valdyn: execpt buggy dcgui ofcourse |
| 22:56.46 | skinra | quit |
| 22:56.48 | skinra | exit |
| 22:56.49 | apnea | lonny: no tar archives multiple files and gz compress the archive. gzip is different from zip |
| 22:56.51 | skinra | bye |
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| 22:57.05 | valdyn | deadline: the gtk version? i have no idea about dc, just saw that package |
| 22:57.14 | apnea | skinra: /exit exit_message |
| 22:57.15 | lonny | file [filename] gives: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression |
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| 22:57.18 | maher | lonny: if its not .tar.gz its not a tar file |
| 22:57.24 | valdyn | deadline: or dctc ( text mode ) |
| 22:57.49 | deadline | valdyn: i guess this will be hard in text mode...:) |
| 22:57.59 | lonny | maher: I know...the .gz threw me off...I figure it was the same...becuase you can get a kernel in .tar.gz, I figured it was the same for patch |
| 22:58.06 | valdyn | deadline: did you try dcgui? |
| 22:58.13 | apnea | lonny: patches are single text files |
| 22:58.34 | apnea | lonny: use zcat file«| patch idiom |
| 22:58.39 | deadline | valdyn: yes, its very buggy or im too stupid. but for me it really sucks |
| 22:58.47 | apnea | lonny: err zcat file | patch idiom |
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| 22:59.13 | lonny | apnea: I did qzip -d [filename] and it worked perfect |
| 22:59.21 | lonny | thank you both =D |
| 22:59.30 | valdyn | deadline: arent the emule network and bittorrent better as p2p filesharing systems? |
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| 22:59.34 | apnea | lonny: np |
| 22:59.36 | lonny | buuut....before I leave =D |
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| 22:59.54 | lonny | when I go to patch, do I need to edit the patch file, or does it use the kernel config? |
| 22:59.58 | apnea | lonny: you read some manual? ;) |
| 23:00.02 | lonny | lol |
| 23:00.06 | lonny | alright, alright |
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| 23:00.15 | deadline | bittorent works slow for me, emule dont knwo. never tried it. im used to dc, a lot of stuff i need is only there available |
| 23:00.19 | apnea | lonny: what is the pacth? |
| 23:00.29 | lonny | 2.x.xx |
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| 23:00.35 | apnea | lonny: no you just apply it |
| 23:00.42 | apnea | lonny: then make oldconfig |
| 23:00.43 | lonny | ok, thank you |
| 23:00.50 | lonny | you guys have been a great help |
| 23:00.52 | lonny | thanks, bye |
| 23:00.53 | ifvoid | deadline: dcgui-qt is much better dan the normal one |
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| 23:01.00 | linuxbomb | so debian now has support for xorg huh? |
| 23:01.00 | apnea | lonny: do the make oldconfig ok? :) |
| 23:01.03 | apnea | too late |
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| 23:01.06 | deadline | ifvoid: i know but i cannot install it |
| 23:01.15 | ifvoid | deadline: it's uninstallable atm in sid |
| 23:01.20 | valdyn | ifvoid: it has broken depends in sarge |
| 23:01.29 | deadline | ifvoid: im on sarge |
| 23:01.29 | valdyn | ifvoid: just like in sid yea |
| 23:01.35 | ifvoid | valdyn: it's in incoming/NEW |
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| 23:01.46 | ifvoid | waiting for a rename to come through |
| 23:01.49 | drp | I was going to install the nvidia drivers for sarge but didn't know which distrobution to use (unstable or testing) ... which should I use? |
| 23:02.08 | valdyn | deadline: try incoming.debian.org ( i guess ) |
| 23:02.22 | apnea | drp: if you're using 2.6.11 use sid version |
| 23:02.23 | ifvoid | valdyn: no, NEW is not accessible |
| 23:02.31 | ifvoid | us crypto laws and all that |
| 23:02.41 | ifvoid | I just compiled it myself for the time being |
| 23:02.42 | valdyn | ifvoid: oh, is there any source then? |
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| 23:03.14 | ifvoid | yeah, it's called valknut knowadays |
| 23:03.15 | ifvoid | http://dcgui.berlios.de/index.php |
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| 23:04.42 | deadline | im trying to build dcgui-qt from source again, after fixing a problem with libxml2 dependencies it says: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! thi9s is driving me nuts.... |
| 23:04.56 | apnea | anyone knows a decent CLI irc client which can work with utf-8 lcoale? |
| 23:04.59 | paveloskiRJ | oi para todos. |
| 23:05.49 | valdyn | deadline: you can try if apt-get build-dep dcgui-qt pulls that |
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| 23:06.21 | deadline | valdyn: ok |
| 23:06.47 | deadline | btw. what dou you guys think about a firewall box running on sarge testing? |
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| 23:07.16 | ifvoid | deadline: no reason for a firewall not to run woody, if you ask me |
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| 23:07.51 | cygar | deadline: all the work it is done by the kernel and iptables. |
| 23:07.58 | deadline | ok, but i dont have woody, so im planning to install sarge on it |
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| 23:08.31 | deadline | cygar: i mean for the security question. what about security patches in sarge/testing with apt? |
| 23:09.40 | cygar | deadline: a fw should not have anything running. So if the kernel you choose and iptables you use is ok you should not have problems. |
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| 23:10.10 | deadline | cygar: what about kernel 2.6.8-2 ? |
| 23:10.37 | cygar | deadline: subscribe to bugtraq or some security list, the kernel list or google ! |
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| 23:10.50 | deadline | cygar: heh. |
| 23:10.58 | soften | woody gets regular security updates and is suitable for use as a reliable and supported platform for building a firewall. |
| 23:11.13 | soften | can't replace "woody" in that sentence with any of the others |
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| 23:12.30 | deadline | should on a linux firewall root be logged in, or should a iptables script do its work in the background, with nobody logged in? |
| 23:13.04 | soften | no user need log in. |
| 23:13.06 | jjazz | What's the difference between xserver-xfree86 and xserver-svga? |
| 23:13.10 | valdyn | deadline: iptables only uses a script to be setup, work is done by the kernel |
| 23:13.15 | nvz | is it normal for screen to be running as root? I swear I started and attached this screen as nvz, and all processes herein are running as nvz, but it shows up SCREEN, and screen -r, in top as root. |
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| 23:13.27 | shadowarts_ | when i try to install debian with the 2.2 kernel it doesnt dectect my scsi drives (aic7880), and if i use 2.4 it doesnt detect my network cards, help please! |
| 23:13.47 | cygar | nvz: screen is run as the user who runsit :) |
| 23:14.01 | jjazz | shadowarts_: Have you tried a 2.6 kernel? |
| 23:14.06 | jjazz | ;) |
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| 23:14.23 | deadline | seems dcgui-qt is compiling atm.... |
| 23:14.34 | shadowarts_ | jjazz: how do i do that? |
| 23:14.35 | nvz | cygar: *shrug* I got those showing up as root.. I dont understand it |
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| 23:14.42 | shadowarts_ | jjazz: seems like it only has the 2.2 and 2.4 |
| 23:14.47 | cored | hi guys |
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| 23:14.57 | cored | im not on debian right now can somebody please tell me the depends for compiling the kernel on woody |
| 23:15.04 | hypo` | shadowarts_: have you checked if there are any modules to insert while installing? |
| 23:15.18 | hypo` | in the section configure driver modules |
| 23:15.29 | jjazz | shadowarts_: You can compile your own 2.6 kernel... but I was kinda joking. There should be a better option. |
| 23:15.30 | shadowarts_ | hypo`: yeah, there was aic7xxx=no_reset but that didnt work |
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| 23:15.56 | shadowarts_ | hypo`: but for with in the install system i havent really tried there |
| 23:16.06 | nvz | I'll be back I got to figure this out.. because I cant seem to get links2 to start, and my screen session and xterm both say they are running as root, and yet the IRSSI and all other apps running therein are running as nvz |
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| 23:16.47 | hypo` | my nic wasnt detected also during installation, but when i inserted the right module, it worked |
| 23:17.26 | shadowarts_ | yeah problem is i dont know what ethernet cards they are, i check on the cards themselves and they done say |
| 23:17.30 | hypo` | does the maker of your scsi drive and/or nic provide linux drivers online? |
| 23:17.34 | shadowarts_ | *dont |
| 23:18.00 | hypo` | isnt there a code on the chip? |
| 23:18.05 | valdyn | shadowarts_: lspci ? |
| 23:18.12 | difeta | I have several debian machines, some on woody, some on sarge, and some on sid. Is there a way to make them all get their updates from a central computer on my network and have that computer contact debian for hte files? |
| 23:18.27 | valdyn | difeta: apt-proxy |
| 23:18.27 | deadline | is anybody working on the debian/kfreebsd project? |
| 23:18.31 | shadowarts_ | doesnt have a brand name or something i can go off of |
| 23:18.49 | difeta | valdyn, really, sweet! Eat that MS server 2003 |
| 23:19.02 | prahal | difeta: i use apt-proxy (easy to setup and maintain) and proftpd |
| 23:19.17 | prahal | difeta: proftpd is the hard part :) |
| 23:19.35 | hypo` | shadowarts_: i hope someone else can help you; because i think there is only one way and thats to get the drivers |
| 23:19.52 | difeta | pragma_, why did you specif proftpd? is ftp necessary for apt-proxy? |
| 23:19.53 | hypo` | i use my windows machine sometimes to see what hardware it is |
| 23:20.01 | valdyn | difeta: no |
| 23:20.07 | pragma_ | difeta, nonsense |
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| 23:20.13 | difeta | alright |
| 23:20.18 | shadowarts_ | i think ill just mess around with the install some more |
| 23:20.25 | valdyn | difeta: apt-proxy is its own http server |
| 23:20.27 | difeta | just checking, i didnt think the debian guys would do that |
| 23:20.32 | difeta | valdyn, k |
| 23:20.46 | shadowarts_ | i have never installed linux with scsi drives and usually debian is good about finding your drivers |
| 23:21.02 | hypo` | try inserting every net driver module :) (probably not the right method :)) |
| 23:21.09 | shadowarts_ | lol |
| 23:21.13 | mwilson | Uh, usually Debian doesn't do anything at all to "find your drivers", Debian having no hardware detection to speak of. |
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| 23:21.16 | shadowarts_ | i actually though about that |
| 23:21.19 | Kly | www.otomotivshow.com |
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| 23:21.38 | prahal | i have a repository http://url/dir/packages, and in sources.list deb http://uri/dir/ ./ , but apt-get try to download from http://uri/dir/unstable/ (it obviously does not work) . Did i make a mistake ? (the proper line is not documented on the site) |
| 23:21.56 | prahal | this is deb http://cairographics.org/packages/debian/ (xsvg) |
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| 23:21.58 | shadowarts_ | thanks for your help, ill see what i can do |
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| 23:22.32 | valdyn | prahal: no it doesnt, but it goes to url/dir/dists/ |
| 23:22.35 | nvz | oh well I dont understand I slayed nvz, and restarted gdm, and logged in again, I start /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm and type 'id' and it says I am nvz, yet top says xterm is running as root |
| 23:22.39 | cygar | is there any debian developer || mantainer here ? |
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| 23:23.20 | soften | cygar, yes; one or more debian developers or maintainers are here. |
| 23:23.24 | prahal | Err http://cairographics.org ./ xsvg 0.2.0-1 , http://cairographics.org/packages/debian/unstable/xsvg_0.2.0-1_i386.deb 404 Not Found (maybe it is a bug in apt-O.6 ... |
| 23:24.12 | prahal | valdyn: i use ./ to avoid the dist thing (as the cairo repository has no dists/distrib ) |
| 23:24.13 | cygar | soften: are you ? |
| 23:24.13 | bucky | prahal, try leaving the forward slash off the end of deb http://cairographics.org/packages/debian |
| 23:24.18 | bucky | and then ./ |
| 23:24.19 | soften | cygar: I am not. |
| 23:24.42 | nvz | well there isnt any bugs against htop, I guess I should file one.. cause it says xterm and screen are running as root, and ps says they are running as nvz |
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| 23:25.09 | deadline | valdyn: dciconloader.cpp:48: error: `GetDatadir' undeclared (first use this function)...lol... |
| 23:25.25 | valdyn | deadline: oh , i know that one.. |
| 23:25.27 | cygar | nvz: mh ? top tells you that it is running as root and ps as nvz user ? |
| 23:25.31 | deadline | valdyn: hehe |
| 23:25.40 | nvz | I also have two /usr/bin/gdm processes *shrug* |
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| 23:26.53 | nvz | cygar: htop says " 3117 root 10 0 3228 3224 2152 S 0.0 0.8 0:00.39 xterm " and ps aux says "nvz 3117 0.1 0.6 5920 3224 ? S 12:19 0:00 xterm" |
| 23:26.59 | cygar | nvz: take a look at /proc/PID/status and take a look at the UID |
| 23:27.09 | nvz | cygar: this is true for the screen and all other processes running under that xterm |
| 23:27.36 | valdyn | prahal: deb http://cairographics.org/packages/debian/ ./ |
| 23:27.45 | nekrataal | hi there, i have a question, ive tried everithing...but, here i am asking...how do i get a fat32 partition mounted on boot and rw to all users?? wich one is the line to put on /etc/fstab? |
| 23:27.47 | nvz | cygar: its my UID, 1000 |
| 23:28.15 | cygar | nvz: ok so it is running as nvz user. |
| 23:28.20 | prahal | bucky: it does not help ... but thanks i began to guess a problems in the file cache and checked the apt lists , Filename: unstable/xsvg_0.2.0-1_i386.deb ... it seems the package list is broken (i hacked the apt list file and now it works !) |
| 23:28.37 | nvz | cygar: yeah but htop appears to be lying to me or be confused |
| 23:28.56 | bucky | prahal, you a mono programmer? |
| 23:29.03 | difeta | nekrataal, try using the rw option for the partiion |
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| 23:29.08 | Roey | hello |
| 23:29.22 | nekrataal | difeta i oviosly tried that already |
| 23:29.23 | cygar | nvz: don't know how htop works. |
| 23:29.36 | nekrataal | but it works only with noauto option.. |
| 23:29.41 | nekrataal | not with de auto.. |
| 23:30.12 | nekrataal | i dont know why, i even specified the user and group using gid=####,uid=#### |
| 23:30.14 | difeta | nekrataal, ok, then you will have to create a group and set the gid of the partition to that group. Then add the users who can rw it in that group. |
| 23:30.36 | nekrataal | difeta: i tried that also.. |
| 23:30.37 | difeta | nekrataal, i do that for my pub partition (which used to be fat32) and it worked just dine |
| 23:30.38 | difeta | fine |
| 23:30.51 | prahal | bucky: well not yet , i am mostly interested in svg and smil . though i am testing the xsp server too. |
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| 23:31.00 | bucky | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.02 | nekrataal | but when mounted on boot it dosnt get rw.. |
| 23:31.05 | difeta | nekrataal, just to confirm, you tried the option gid=fat32group ? |
| 23:31.06 | nekrataal | not even ro.. |
| 23:31.18 | nekrataal | difeta: yes, i tried that.. |
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| 23:31.22 | difeta | k |
| 23:31.38 | nekrataal | i dont know why it doesnt work.. |
| 23:31.51 | nvz | cygout: me either, but its not in agreement with ps, so I have dumped an strace into a tmp file |
| 23:31.52 | nekrataal | i read forums, and everithing thats why im asking here |
| 23:31.56 | Roey | Hello, there is a patch that needs to be applied to the Qt libs (specifically, the libqt3-mt package). The patch name is "qt-copy patch #48". It fixes an important freezing bug when editing Edit Fields in KHTML views. I looked up bugs.debian.org/ibqt3-mt and found only one unrelated bug from a year ago. |
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| 23:32.14 | prahal | valdyn: thanks but the maintainer messed up his packages file (there is unstable before each file name, but no unstable dir in his repo) , i think he did that to ease upload to debian (some of his pacakge have been accepted a few days ago) |
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| 23:32.21 | _rene_ | gw 23 |
| 23:32.24 | _rene_ | grmnl |
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| 23:33.03 | difeta | nekrataal, hmm i've ran out of ideas. keep trying though, i know its possible. |
| 23:33.20 | nekrataal | wich other options did you use? |
| 23:33.34 | valdyn | prahal: ah, I see |
| 23:33.46 | nekrataal | i use /dev/hda1 vfat rw,auto,gid=fat32group |
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| 23:35.38 | darkcmd | what version of GNOME is currently in sarge? |
| 23:35.50 | difeta | nekrataal, try the users option |
| 23:35.54 | mwilson | 2.8 |
| 23:36.03 | darkcmd | cool |
| 23:36.32 | mwilson | Roey: And you wouldn't send that to the package maintainer because...? |
| 23:36.39 | Roey | mwilson: I am |
| 23:36.55 | mwilson | You think he's here in the channel? |
| 23:37.02 | Roey | mwilson: I'm using reportbug. |
| 23:37.11 | Roey | mwilson: pick another victim. |
| 23:37.17 | mwilson | reportbug doesn't send stuff to IRC |
| 23:37.29 | jetscreamer | it should! |
| 23:37.34 | jetscreamer | chanspam! |
| 23:38.22 | jetscreamer | but anyway: ok i got garnome to build me gnome under $HOME, but where should i tell it to build it so it's installed systemwide, just like the gnome .deb would ? |
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| 23:38.59 | jetscreamer | <--poet |
| 23:39.09 | Netcraft | night |
| 23:39.13 | jetscreamer | day |
| 23:39.20 | streuner_ | <--- idiot ;-) |
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| 23:39.31 | jetscreamer | <--more idiotice |
| 23:39.35 | jetscreamer | err idiotic |
| 23:39.38 | Tman | what's the cdrom device in debian? |
| 23:39.40 | valdyn | jetscreamer: whats wrong with ~/garname ? works for all users as long as they set the appropriate environment variables. |
| 23:39.56 | valdyn | jetscreamer: /usr/local works. |
| 23:39.58 | streuner_ | Tman: guess |
| 23:40.04 | difeta | Tman, /dev/hda, /dev/hdb .... |
| 23:40.12 | Tman | heh.. k thx |
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| 23:40.17 | jetscreamer | Tman, depends on where you hooked it up |
| 23:40.18 | difeta | Tman, is that what you wanted? |
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| 23:40.45 | streuner_ | Tman: tell us for what you need that |
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| 23:40.59 | jetscreamer | thankee valdyn |
| 23:41.02 | duckman75 | is ia64 installer for AMD64? |
| 23:41.21 | jetscreamer | doesn't sound right, no idea |
| 23:41.23 | streuner_ | duckman75: /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 23:41.30 | duckman75 | thx |
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| 23:43.02 | Tman | streuner_: ripping some cds |
| 23:43.15 | peetah | how can i add developer packages and extra stuff to apt ? |
| 23:43.30 | streuner_ | Tman: and that doesn't work? |
| 23:43.57 | hypo` | peetah: add the path to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:44.22 | peetah | hypo`: yeah i know that, but what should i add? |
| 23:44.50 | hypo` | euhm ... try looking at the other ones |
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| 23:45.09 | hypo` | its something like: deb path stable main |
| 23:45.16 | hypo` | deb-src path stable main |
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| 23:45.53 | hypo` | so for unstable (sid) you should write sid main behind path |
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| 23:46.17 | hypo` | develop is sarge? so use sarge instead of stable |
| 23:46.34 | hypo` | then do an 'apt-get update' to see if the link works |
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| 23:46.54 | doub | hi there |
| 23:47.37 | pipeline | duckman75: ia64 is Itanium. I assure you that you don't have one of those. |
| 23:48.11 | Tman | streuner: hdc works.. |
| 23:49.27 | streuner_ | Tman: describe your problem |
| 23:50.07 | Tman | streuner: what?? I don't have one anymore.. |
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| 23:50.56 | squirecd | Alright, guys/gals. I have a question that requires an opinion. Which is a better email client? Evolution or Thunderbird? I don't use any of that calendar crap that evolution has and evolution seems to be a memory hog. I haven't tried Thunderbird yet. ---- Just curious as to what you guys think. |
| 23:51.22 | duckman75 | thunderbird |
| 23:51.36 | undertow | squirecd you might try slypheed too |
| 23:51.42 | lispy | i installed apt-move, ran apt-move update, and on a different machine i changed source.list to say deb http://mylocalserver testing main |
| 23:51.45 | darkcmd | do they have a full GNOME install in the debian repositories |
| 23:51.48 | lispy | but i get a 404 |
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| 23:51.58 | travisat | squirecd: I like thunderbird |
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| 23:53.36 | squirecd | Awesome. Thanks guys... Appricate it. I'm going with Thunderbird. |
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| 23:54.44 | darkcmd | is gnome 2.8.3 in sarge? |
| 23:54.45 | digital_ | bn tout le monde :) |
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| 23:57.10 | jim | darkcmd: packages.debuan.org |
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| 23:57.40 | BrutusLinux | how do I fix framebuffering...trying to install sarge |
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| 23:58.13 | valdyn | !info libgnome2-0 |
| 23:58.16 | dpkg | libgnome2-0: (The GNOME 2 library - runtime files), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.8.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 92 kB, Installed size: 256 kB |
| 23:58.20 | BrutusLinux | do I put something in lilo |
| 23:58.47 | jim | (this is actually the answer to all questions of the form "is verion X of package Y in version Z of debian?") |
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| 23:59.16 | valdyn | !info gnome-about sarge |
| 23:59.18 | dpkg | gnome-about: (The GNOME about box), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.8.1-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 211 kB, Installed size: 360 kB |
| 23:59.28 | valdyn | darkcmd: no |
| 23:59.36 | valdyn | !info gnome-about sid |
| 23:59.38 | dpkg | gnome-about: (The GNOME about box), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 212 kB, Installed size: 364 kB |
| 23:59.48 | doub | valdyn: can't dpkg be automated to answer such question? |
