| 00:00.05 | warhead | When I write "hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd" I have error "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted" |
| 00:00.14 | Akrame | bye candc540 and thanks |
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| 00:00.34 | nSe | pipeline: umask ? never heard a word about it... i can't believe that a simple action of turning a mount point acessible is so difficult... |
| 00:01.01 | pipeline | nSe: You're mangling the permissions of an entire filesystem and importing a foreign filesystem. And it's not difficult. |
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| 00:02.29 | cafuego | warhead: Your driver doesn't support DMA. |
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| 00:03.29 | warhead | cafuego: But My DVD-RW work with DMA under WinXP |
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| 00:03.37 | pipeline | warhead: Does it? Is this a silicon image SATA chipset? |
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| 00:04.07 | warhead | pipeline: Asus A8V, chipset is VIA |
| 00:04.28 | Stza | is there any sort of problem with setting up a "desktop system" on a HP PA-RISC machine? |
| 00:04.31 | cafuego | warhead: Woody with 2.4.18 kernel? |
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| 00:05.01 | loren | anyone know off the top of their head if Ark Linux is RH based? |
| 00:05.02 | pipeline | Stza: PA-RISC machines are slower than molasses, graphics support is iffy, and architecture independent drivers usually aren't. |
| 00:05.06 | pipeline | Stza: Other than that, no. |
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| 00:05.13 | warhead | cafuego: no, I have kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic |
| 00:05.15 | pipeline | Stza: www.openpa.net is your friend |
| 00:05.17 | Pepina | loren, check distrowatch.com |
| 00:05.18 | loren | nvm, got it :( |
| 00:05.21 | loren | ty |
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| 00:05.33 | warhead | cafuego: dist. kubuntu |
| 00:05.34 | cafuego | warhead: is the correct ide driver loaded? |
| 00:05.34 | cfh_dev | part |
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| 00:05.45 | cafuego | warhead: No, wrong channel. #ununtu is there --> |
| 00:06.05 | warhead | cafuego: But that is debian ?!?! |
| 00:06.29 | gtigene | I need to put an hdparm command in a Linux startup script. Where is a Linux startup script in Debian? |
| 00:06.31 | Pepina | !ubuntu |
| 00:06.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu |
| 00:06.43 | Stza | pipeline: yeah I've done all that... Debian was my choice after a failed Gentoo install... I'm not worried about speed or anything, I just want it to work :P |
| 00:06.48 | dondelelcaro | gtigene: they're all in /etc/init.d |
| 00:06.56 | loren | Q: anyone know how to enable realtime for Kernel 2.6 ? |
| 00:06.59 | Pepina | gtigene /msg dpkg startup |
| 00:07.00 | pipeline | Stza: Gentoo would be about my last choice :P |
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| 00:07.03 | warhead | gtigene: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
| 00:07.12 | cafuego | !nondeb Ubuntu |
| 00:07.13 | dpkg | Go to channel #Ubuntu for help with Ubuntu. If Ubuntu were Debian, it would be called Debian and not Ubuntu. |
| 00:07.13 | pipeline | loren: Linux has no genuine realtime support. |
| 00:07.14 | gtigene | warhead, thanks |
| 00:07.20 | cafuego | warhead: Shoo |
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| 00:07.28 | dondelelcaro | gtigene: moreover, if you look, you'll notice that there's a /etc/init.d/hdparm; read /usr/share/doc/hdparm/* |
| 00:07.28 | Stza | pipeline: Gentoo, Debian or HP-UX :P that's all I've found that support the arch anyhow. |
| 00:07.33 | loren | pipeline: what should i do to enable it though :( |
| 00:07.53 | gtigene | dondelelcaro, ok |
| 00:07.53 | pipeline | Stza: NetBSD, OpenBSD, Openstep. What machine is it? |
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| 00:07.57 | candc540 | lol |
| 00:08.01 | candc540 | poor warhead |
| 00:08.03 | warhead | cafuego: ok, but ubunto is clone of Debian :-) |
| 00:08.06 | pipeline | loren: You have to build a special kernel. |
| 00:08.10 | Stza | pipeline: 712/80 |
| 00:08.10 | candc540 | that's why i run Debian |
| 00:08.12 | dondelelcaro | warhead: no, it's not. |
| 00:08.14 | pipeline | warhead: So what? It's not like you have to pay extra for the real thing. |
| 00:08.16 | loren | pipeline: damn haha :( |
| 00:08.21 | pipeline | Stza: NS3.3 will run on that ;) |
| 00:08.27 | candc540 | warhead: it's not the same it's very different |
| 00:08.36 | pipeline | Stza: Seriously though, a 712 shouldn't have any trouble running NetBSD or Debian. It'll be slower than shit though. |
| 00:08.37 | cafuego | warhead: Yes, it's a CLONE, not IDENTICAL. |
| 00:08.40 | loren | pipeline: thanks for the help, ima see what i can find at #kernel |
| 00:08.40 | warhead | candc540: ? |
| 00:08.41 | dondelelcaro | warhead: it's a derived distribution. Parts of it are quite different. |
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| 00:08.49 | FieldySnuts | sure gets old explianing that |
| 00:08.54 | cafuego | warhead: I should know, I run it. |
| 00:09.02 | Stza | pipeline: I need a flavour capable of running a teamspeak server is all really |
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| 00:09.06 | pipeline | warhead: Incidentally, Debian is by far the most-forked distribution. Probably close to a quarter of all distributions ever created are "clones" of Debian. |
| 00:09.06 | warhead | pipeline: hehehe |
| 00:09.15 | pipeline | Stza: Isn't the teamspeak server binary-only? |
| 00:09.29 | FieldySnuts | pipeline: yes |
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| 00:09.32 | cafuego | Yay, officer Glen is coming to dust my car :-) |
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| 00:09.33 | FieldySnuts | restrictive license too |
| 00:09.38 | Stza | pipeline: yeah |
| 00:09.40 | candc540 | warhead: many things are similar and many things are very much so different |
| 00:09.48 | warhead | dondelelcaro: All in ubuntu I have and in Debian |
| 00:09.48 | pipeline | warhead: Ubuntu isn't even the first commercial one with the same explicit goals. Storm Linux, Progeny, and several others have come and gone. |
| 00:09.51 | FieldySnuts | actually I was wrong, as-is kind of license |
| 00:09.53 | underdog | Guys... when restarting a daemon, and if it sends messages, where is the log stored (ie. restarting apache) |
| 00:09.57 | pipeline | warhead: Just install the real thing. |
| 00:10.00 | FieldySnuts | ubuntu. is. not. debian. |
| 00:10.12 | pipeline | Why settle for less? |
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| 00:10.17 | warhead | pipeline: What is Your suggestion? |
| 00:10.31 | candc540 | because it has gnome 2.10? |
| 00:10.31 | pipeline | warhead: My suggestion is to install Debian. |
| 00:10.37 | dondelelcaro | warhead: we've told you the way it is... if you want to argue about it, go elsewhere, please. You won't be told again. |
| 00:10.41 | candc540 | most things just work in debian |
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| 00:10.48 | cafuego | underdog: /var/log/apache/* |
| 00:11.02 | pipeline | candc540: Debian's Gnome 2.8 has a lot of 2.10 features anyway. I've had GTK 2.6 features for ages :P |
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| 00:11.28 | warhead | pipeline: Woody,Sarge,Sid? |
| 00:11.35 | underdog | cafuego: i'm restarting apache and i'm having trouble with php (naminglly blank pages everywhere), so I think it must be a problem in apache's initialization. although I have searched in those logs, I find nothing. |
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| 00:11.50 | underdog | Thanks tho |
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| 00:12.02 | pipeline | warhead: Sarge |
| 00:12.08 | cafuego | underdog: Blank pages? Does your php site use short open tags? |
| 00:12.22 | pipeline | warhead: If you later change your mind and want to upgrade to Sid, you haven't lost anything. |
| 00:12.32 | pipeline | warhead: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso |
| 00:12.48 | warhead | pipeline: Sid is in mess |
| 00:12.50 | pipeline | warhead: Alternatively, visit the debian-installer homepage and get the torrent of the full CD http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 00:13.02 | warhead | pipeline: On platform amd64 |
| 00:13.13 | pipeline | warhead: All distributions are a mess on AMD64. Install the i386 version. |
| 00:13.27 | pipeline | warhead: Do you have more than 3G of RAM? If not, you have nothing to gain from running a 64 bit userland. |
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| 00:13.40 | sigma957 | anyone know of any security issues running a dns server on my local lan? It's behind a firewall. Using bind9. |
| 00:13.43 | warhead | pipeline: I try work with kdevelop 3.x. Damn...total unusble |
| 00:13.49 | FieldySnuts | i know one that isn't but i can't deal with being flamed THAT Much :P |
| 00:13.51 | underdog | warhead: not even proprietary OS's (like Windows) have broad support for 64 bit yet, so don't expect much :) |
| 00:14.02 | warhead | pipeline: I have 1GB of RAM |
| 00:14.08 | Pepina | FieldySnuts, name it :P |
| 00:14.13 | pipeline | warhead: 1G is less than 3G. You don't need a 64 bit userland. |
| 00:14.19 | pipeline | FieldySnuts: Not possible. |
| 00:14.28 | warhead | underdog: I have WinXP 64 on my PC |
| 00:14.34 | FieldySnuts | i run 3 servers with it, shrug |
| 00:14.34 | Pepina | heh |
| 00:14.35 | FieldySnuts | bbl |
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| 00:14.42 | greg | warhead, pipeline: Humm, I use Debian-AMD64 (pure64) it's work |
| 00:14.52 | warhead | pipeline: ok |
| 00:14.58 | underdog | warhead: and do you use many 64bit native applications? |
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| 00:15.02 | pipeline | warhead: It's possible to run 64 bit apps in a chroot on a 32bit userland, so you can spare yourself the hassle |
| 00:15.06 | greg | warhead,pipeline: And work more quickly |
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| 00:15.20 | cafuego | underdog: Linux has never had issues on my mad64 machine; windows pretty much had NO 64bit drivers for ANY of the components. |
| 00:15.20 | underdog | warhead: and do you have full driver support for 64 bit? :) |
| 00:15.25 | warhead | greg: aha, and do You install kdevelop 3.x on AMD64 ? |
| 00:15.28 | greg | pipeline,warhead faster (sorry) |
| 00:15.36 | pipeline | greg, warhead: After sarge is released we'll have multi-arch support in etch. Be able to mix 32 bit and 64 bit at will with no chroot bullshit, like Solaris. |
| 00:15.38 | greg | warhead: Yes |
| 00:15.50 | warhead | underdog: Yes, NVIDIA have 64 bit driver, and VIA chipset |
| 00:15.52 | underdog | cafuego: I never had any experience whatsoever with 64bit... so I'm not arguing. I was just supporting pipeline's point of view :) |
| 00:15.55 | pipeline | sigma957: If it's behind a firewall, you should be fine. |
| 00:16.04 | pipeline | cafuego: Windows 64 bit is a joke at this point. |
| 00:16.14 | greg | pipeline: I like chroot since I nver use 32bits app |
| 00:16.17 | cafuego | underdog: Linux on one is a non-issue, they're supported. |
| 00:16.17 | candc540 | so to get the drivers for the orinoco reloaded do i need to restart or can i just issue a command to reload my pcmcia cards? |
| 00:16.36 | pipeline | greg: It's usually a lot less painful to do it the other way around -- use 32-bit for everything but the handful of applications that can use 64-bit. |
| 00:16.36 | sigma957 | pipeline:thanks. comcast's DNS has sucked lately |
| 00:16.37 | warhead | pipeline: Aha......I wait released day of sarge to loong |
| 00:16.50 | pipeline | sigma957: You'll still be dependent on Comcast with your own DNS server. |
| 00:16.57 | pipeline | sigma957: You can cache, but that's about it. |
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| 00:17.12 | greg | pipeline: Sorry, I need 64bits (math) |
| 00:17.21 | candc540 | anyone? |
| 00:17.23 | pipeline | greg: Exactly. |
| 00:17.29 | sigma957 | pipeline: at least it won't stop resolving from one page to another :) |
| 00:17.33 | pipeline | greg: You can use mathematica in a 64-bit chroot and handle everything else normally |
| 00:17.39 | warhead | greg: And all work within kdevelop? |
| 00:17.42 | tag | ld: drivers/scsi/qla2xxx/built-in.o: No such file: No such file or directory ... 1) Why is this happening? 2) Every time I comment out the QLA2XXX driver option it puts it back, why? |
| 00:17.42 | candc540 | pipeline: do i need to restart or can i just reload my modules |
| 00:17.44 | underdog | cafuego: I had a friend installing (OMG... I'm gonna say it...) *g* Ubuntu *g* (darn...) on his PC. Had LOTS of trouble getting anything done (instability, frequent crashes, etc ) |
| 00:17.56 | pipeline | candc540: Good question. I hate dealing with hotplug. |
| 00:18.03 | tag | what teh fuq |
| 00:18.09 | pipeline | candc540: I usually remove hotplug and explicitly list the modules I want loaded in /etc/modules |
| 00:18.11 | markybob | greg dont listen to them. i run debian amd64 port just fine. everything 64-bit |
| 00:18.26 | candc540 | i guess i'll take that as a restart my box then |
| 00:18.29 | p8m | tag: I got that error too. I just got rid of scsi support. |
| 00:18.31 | greg | warhead, pipeline: I must confess, I use mplayer in 32bits userland but I don't develop for kde and I don't know |
| 00:18.33 | candc540 | be back soon |
| 00:18.35 | tag | p8m: I have a scsi |
| 00:18.37 | tag | heh |
| 00:18.39 | tag | I can't do that |
| 00:18.58 | markybob | greg marillat has 64-bit mplayer repository |
| 00:19.06 | tag | is it just broken should I try a different kernel? |
| 00:19.09 | greg | warhead: no problem with kde |
| 00:19.14 | underdog | markybob: uname -a && uptime, paste it on PM |
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| 00:19.25 | markybob | underdog, no. wtf are you? |
| 00:19.27 | dabreegs1er | Anybody know how to make moosic correctly pause a song, play another, then resume the first? |
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| 00:19.37 | pipeline | warhead, cafuego: Don't forget the ubuntu-specific problems with XFS a few weeks ago :) |
| 00:19.40 | markybob | wtf kind of a request is that |
| 00:19.53 | greg | markybob: do you know that there is some 32 bits driver that come from a strange society named micros.. |
| 00:20.02 | underdog | markybob: it will show no personal info, no credit cards, no anything :) just to make a point here |
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| 00:20.06 | warhead | pipeline: Good old ext3 |
| 00:20.08 | cilkay | I installed using the Sarge installer CD and pointing to an http repository. I modified /etc/apt/sources.list to move the new install from testing to unstable. I ran apt-setup again to find faster mirrors but the new mirrors point to testing mirrors, not unstable. Why does apt-setup think I am still running testing? |
| 00:20.14 | tag | nobody? I'm gonna try .10 |
| 00:20.25 | pipeline | warhead: Damn straight. |
| 00:20.36 | pipeline | cilkay: apt-get update ? |
| 00:20.43 | markybob | underdog, yes, thank you, i know what uname and uptime show. and no. talk about a weird request...i wasnt even asking a question. |
| 00:20.44 | cilkay | did that |
| 00:20.53 | pipeline | cilkay: Also, I'll bet apt-setup uses /etc/debian_version or something. |
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| 00:20.58 | cilkay | aha |
| 00:21.13 | pipeline | cilkay: Let's put it this way |
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| 00:21.23 | pipeline | cilkay: If you use apt-setup to configure apt, you shouldn't be using unstable |
| 00:21.42 | underdog | markybob: I know you weren't, you were just saying that you run 64bit with no problems. I was just curious about your uptime |
| 00:22.15 | markybob | underdog, two days on this box (laptop). 2.6.10 |
| 00:22.36 | markybob | underdog, never had a crash or any problems at all. |
| 00:22.48 | cilkay | pipeline, it was just a convenient list of mirrors - no other reason I used it. I could have modified sources.list manually too. |
| 00:22.52 | underdog | you're a lucky chap then :) |
| 00:22.57 | markybob | underdog, no, i'm not |
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| 00:23.07 | pipeline | cilkay: mirrors.debian.org ? |
| 00:23.08 | markybob | underdog, i have opteron servers at work running linux in 64-bit |
| 00:23.15 | markybob | underdog, what do you think the problem is with linux and 64-bit? |
| 00:23.25 | markybob | underdog, whatever it is, you're wrong. i have it on desktops, servers and laptops |
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| 00:23.35 | markybob | underdog, *no* problems |
| 00:23.43 | pipeline | markybob: It's not ready for primetime, some software still has problems, and there's no benefits over running i386 linux for users with fewer than 3 gigabytes of RAM? |
| 00:23.46 | russo | does anyone has a VOODOO3 card and uses it with the "glide" driver ? |
| 00:23.52 | caphuso | pipeline: speed |
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| 00:24.00 | markybob | unbelievable! |
| 00:24.02 | underdog | markybob: ok ok i believe you. the thing is, lots of people complain about 64bit support on linux, most of them talking about instability. |
| 00:24.03 | candc540 | ok back now and no working |
| 00:24.04 | pipeline | caphuso: Non-starter. |
| 00:24.10 | pipeline | caphuso: Very few apps show any speed difference. |
| 00:24.14 | markybob | underdog, and most of them dont know what they're talking about |
| 00:24.14 | caphuso | amd64 in 64bit mode is faster than amd64 in 32bit mode |
| 00:24.19 | Dathias | Good evening. |
| 00:24.22 | dli | how to disable "swap on" at booting? |
| 00:24.31 | pipeline | caphuso: ...for a handful of applications. GCC, SBCL, and LAME are the only things that come to mind. |
| 00:24.35 | caphuso | pipeline: anything with floating point stuff does, with occasionally quite impressive improvements |
| 00:24.38 | dli | system freezes at enabling swap |
| 00:24.40 | underdog | markybob: this one in particular is not one of them, but ok. this discussion isn't taking us anywhere. nice knowing ya ;) |
| 00:25.06 | p8m | caphuso: got to love those extra registers |
| 00:25.09 | nydust | !transcode |
| 00:25.09 | dpkg | hmm... transcode is a linux text-console utility for video stream processing. http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/, or xk gives it a stamp of approval |
| 00:25.11 | caphuso | pipeline: up to 40% with oggenc, for example |
| 00:25.21 | greg | greg: All matrix multiply coded in C (double) => factor => 1.7 |
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| 00:25.50 | pipeline | caphuso: oggenc is another example of a very unusual case. Like LAME. |
| 00:26.06 | pipeline | caphuso: I don't spend most of my time compiling C or encoding MP3s. |
| 00:26.42 | caphuso | pipeline: so you're saying there's no point _for you_ using the 64 bit mode |
| 00:26.59 | Dathias | If I may ask does anyone have a resource I may lookup about Missing kernel src. Whenever I try to compile any of my drivers. I get this error. |
| 00:27.22 | markybob | Dathias, apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 00:27.24 | caphuso | pipeline: i wonder... what makes you so special that you can so easily generalize from yourself to everyone? |
| 00:27.25 | greg | pipeline: I use always these register for example libgmp (arbitrary integer) |
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| 00:27.33 | Dathias | Thank you Marky Bob |
| 00:27.57 | greg | pipeline: just a troll |
| 00:28.10 | Chrissy2k5 | hey can anyone give me any suggestions .. i am after a ftpd with its OWN user system .. rather than using the user system of the system . can anyone help ? |
| 00:28.26 | candc540 | anyone got any clue how to install orinoco-0.15rc2 drivers? i got as far as make and make install but now what? |
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| 00:28.39 | markybob | Chrissy2k5, vsftpd can do virtual users, if that's what you mean. |
| 00:28.51 | caphuso | any ftpd with pam support can do it |
| 00:28.53 | Analyser | someone know a good graphical program to do web streaming ? |
| 00:28.57 | p8m | Cdrissy: plenty of ftp servers support virtual users, vsftpd, pure-ftpd |
| 00:29.21 | pipeline | caphuso: I'm an obnoxious prick. |
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| 00:29.30 | Chrissy2k5 | oh right have vsftpd .... can anyone give me any pointers on adding users ? |
| 00:29.35 | pipeline | caphuso: I thought it was self-evident |
| 00:29.45 | Dathias | Thank you everyone, Good night. Hopefully I will have my network card online so i may rejoin here. |
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| 00:29.54 | pipeline | candc540: Did you run "update-modules" ? |
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| 00:29.58 | candc540 | yep |
| 00:30.04 | pipeline | candc540: that should be it |
| 00:30.05 | candc540 | right after the make install |
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| 00:30.31 | candc540 | well ill try a reboot |
| 00:30.37 | candc540 | and see what happens |
| 00:30.48 | candc540 | ran the update-modules command again |
| 00:30.54 | candc540 | just for laughts |
| 00:30.59 | candc540 | *laughs |
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| 00:31.30 | dli | how to disable swap at booting? |
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| 00:32.26 | caphuso | dli: edit your /etc/fstab |
| 00:32.48 | dli | caphuso, thanks |
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| 00:33.04 | dli | caphuso, system hangs at enabling swap |
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| 00:34.01 | nSe | could someone tell me the name of a text editor in text mode? |
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| 00:34.12 | tag | yaay .10 got through the build, screw it I'm using 2.6.10 |
| 00:34.15 | cafuego | nano, vi, vim, emacs |
| 00:34.16 | dli | nSe: vi, emacs |
| 00:34.26 | caphuso | dli: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password (mentally substitute editing fstab where appropriate) |
| 00:34.28 | nSe | dli: thank you |
| 00:34.28 | cafuego | nSe: 'nano' is by far the easiest to use. |
| 00:34.30 | tag | vim |
| 00:34.44 | ysothoth | hehehehe |
| 00:34.51 | dli | caphuso: I think I can use "init=/bin/sh" parameter |
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| 00:35.17 | caphuso | dli: which is exactly what that factoid tells you... |
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| 00:36.00 | Stza | pipeline: I dunno what was wrong but it installed properly now... It doesn't seem -that- slow, I mean yeah nothing compared to a good p4 or athlon, but not as horrible as some say it is :P |
| 00:36.06 | nSe | cafuego: after doing the alterations, what i have to do in order to quit and save? |
| 00:36.23 | markybob | nSe, can you see what the screen says? |
| 00:36.24 | cafuego | nSe: in which editor? nano/ Just ctrl-X |
| 00:36.25 | ludi | anyone available to help with a samba issue? |
| 00:36.46 | candc540 | pipeline: now getting when i run iwlist eth2 scan interface doesn't support scanning |
| 00:36.52 | nSe | markybob: i'm not very used to the screen |
| 00:36.54 | markybob | cafuego, looking at the bottom of the screen where it says ctrl+x exit should've been a hint |
| 00:37.09 | cafuego | !fix markybob |
| 00:37.17 | markybob | heh |
| 00:37.21 | ysothoth | Haha, awesome |
| 00:37.25 | candc540 | !! |
| 00:37.25 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 00:37.26 | drac | */1 * * * * in vixie crontab does command on every minute, but is seconds possible? like on every 15 secs? |
| 00:37.31 | caphuso | drac: no |
| 00:37.36 | drac | damn |
| 00:37.46 | simonrvn | minute precision only |
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| 00:37.57 | markybob | what could you possibly want every 15 secs? |
| 00:37.58 | drac | is there something that does seconds? |
| 00:37.58 | drini | you can add 4 processes, each started with 15 secs of different |
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| 00:38.04 | drini | and then set each one to repeat 1 min |
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| 00:38.13 | caphuso | drac: while sleep 15; do foo; done |
| 00:38.18 | simonrvn | sleep 15; $command_here |
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| 00:38.27 | Akrame | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:38.45 | caphuso | Akrame: go ask #ubuntu. last warning |
| 00:38.47 | drac | markybob: update xmms-infopipe data thru NFS on to use with xmms.pl on irssi, done loads of work editing and compiling on those :-P |
| 00:38.56 | drac | just to kill some time |
| 00:39.00 | drini | use kde, akrame |
| 00:39.01 | drini | hehehe |
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| 00:39.14 | markybob | drac interesting |
| 00:39.16 | candc540 | hey Akrame |
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| 00:39.38 | greg | Akrame: Is it a old gtk apps ? |
| 00:39.42 | Akrame | candc540 :P |
| 00:39.42 | nSe | hmm, i add this "/dev/hda1 /mnt/xp vfat rwx,user 0 0" to my /etc/fstab - that will automatically mount this fs with permissions to all user to do anything? |
| 00:39.47 | Akrame | greg xmms |
| 00:39.56 | candc540 | Akrame: how bout going to Applications > Desktop Preferences > Fonts |
| 00:39.57 | caphuso | nSe: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 00:40.04 | Akrame | drini stfu |
| 00:40.10 | Akrame | candc540 doesn't work .. |
| 00:40.16 | greg | Akrame: ldd /usr/bin/xmms => what lib use this apps |
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| 00:40.47 | Akrame | libgdk-1.2.so.0 |
| 00:40.50 | tag | swesh01:/usr/src/linux# make install && pray --kneel |
| 00:41.01 | candc540 | lol |
| 00:41.04 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | what and where is the file i need to edit to make mt IP static? |
| 00:41.11 | caphuso | SPEEDing|V\oNK: man 5 interfaces |
| 00:41.21 | Akrame | greg .. |
| 00:41.29 | candc540 | how can i make my orinoco scan? |
| 00:41.31 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | caphuso, that works thx |
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| 00:41.46 | candc540 | installed savannah drivers and still no go in 2.6.10 |
| 00:41.52 | tag | is there a way to make sure my system will come back even if the kernel doesn't work out so well? :-) |
| 00:41.54 | greg | Akrame: Ok, try to find a gtkrc file and edit font |
| 00:42.23 | candc540 | orinoco gold mini-pci firmware version 8.72 |
| 00:42.26 | Akrame | greg ok wait |
| 00:42.38 | nSe | caphuso: are you blessed by god? you give me all the information i was searching for the entire day! thank you ver much... |
| 00:42.40 | tag | guess not |
| 00:43.07 | Akrame | greg , locate gtkrc gives a lot of gtkrc files :p |
| 00:43.32 | tag | O, diyous ko. |
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| 00:44.21 | greg | Akrame: TIP : google'ing for font problem and gtkrc will give you some hint (for example you can add a .gtkrc file in your home directory but I don't know the options needed for font size) |
| 00:44.42 | Zizzencs | i would like to use the fglrx driver with xcomposite. is it possible to tell xorg not to disable dri? |
| 00:44.43 | Akrame | ok greg |
| 00:44.45 | asdf | if an echo request comes in interface A but from outside the network of int A and the default route goes out interface B where does the echo reply go? |
| 00:44.46 | Akrame | TY~ |
| 00:44.47 | Akrame | :) |
| 00:44.48 | greg | Akrame: le but n'est pas loin |
| 00:44.48 | Akrame | bye bye all |
| 00:44.53 | drini | ODtfu.. ayet they complain about HAVING option dialogs to fix this cankind of things |
| 00:44.56 | Akrame | greg oui merci |
| 00:44.59 | CyberShadow | what is the option I need to add to fstab to access fat32 partitions as non-root? |
| 00:45.07 | caphuso | CyberShadow: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 00:45.14 | CyberShadow | thx |
| 00:45.35 | candc540 | bye akrame |
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| 00:45.50 | tag | if I installed a new kernel |
| 00:45.51 | candc540 | btw akrame uses ubuntu :P |
| 00:45.58 | Akrame | candc540 :) |
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| 00:46.06 | simonrvn | @ma |
| 00:46.08 | ravenbird | ma is probably milliampere(s) |
| 00:46.08 | tag | and 2.6.10, and I restarted the machine, and it came back saying its 2.2.20...how can I find out why? |
| 00:46.14 | simonrvn | .. |
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| 00:46.24 | caphuso | tag: because your bootloader wasn't set up properly |
| 00:46.33 | simonrvn | morocco |
| 00:46.34 | dvs | tag: lilo or grub? |
| 00:46.37 | tag | lilo |
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| 00:46.47 | nSe | caphuso: that's a coincidence or that information is always given ? |
| 00:46.54 | caphuso | nSe: often enough |
| 00:47.01 | simonrvn | @ma is also Morocco |
| 00:47.01 | drasko | I cn not hear midi on Creative Live! Any ideas? |
| 00:47.01 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 00:47.13 | dvs | tag: In your lilo.conf file, you can put default="XXX" where XXX is the label of the kernel you want as default |
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| 00:48.54 | tag | dvs: It is supposed to be... |
| 00:49.00 | candc540 | anyone that can help i would appreciate it |
| 00:49.08 | dvs | tag: but it is there? |
| 00:49.11 | tag | but when I ran the install target in the kernel makefile, it did say... |
| 00:49.17 | tag | Skipping /vmlinuz.old |
| 00:49.24 | tag | wtf ever that means |
| 00:49.38 | dvs | tag: That means it didn't replace the OLD kernel, whatever that was. |
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| 00:49.46 | candc540 | typing "iwconfig eth2 mode monitor" gives me Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device eth2 ; Operation not supported. |
| 00:49.46 | tag | why |
| 00:50.10 | dvs | tag: Chances are you are installing the same default kernel a second time |
| 00:50.18 | tag | no |
| 00:50.40 | tag | impossible, the default kernel source wasn't even there |
| 00:50.50 | candc540 | and i have the orinoco drivers from savannah installed |
| 00:50.51 | tag | it was the kernel from the sarge cd, apparently |
| 00:50.53 | candc540 | why why why |
| 00:51.01 | tag | or maybe it was the kernel from the woody cd |
| 00:51.03 | tag | I dunno |
| 00:51.04 | dvs | tag: anyways putting that default line in lilo.conf file will switch the default boot kernel |
| 00:51.08 | tag | anyway, there wasn't a source tree there |
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| 00:51.34 | tag | dvs: waaaaaaaaaaait |
| 00:51.48 | tag | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.53 | amahbod | hello, does anyone here use TwinView |
| 00:51.53 | amahbod | ? |
| 00:51.54 | dvs | tag: bingo |
| 00:52.03 | amahbod | i need help with my dual monitor card setup |
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| 00:52.25 | tag | why is that |
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| 00:52.31 | tag | I thought the kernel makefile did that |
| 00:52.36 | dvs | tag: You never changed it? |
| 00:52.43 | dvs | tag: it should |
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| 00:52.48 | tag | Yeah, it should |
| 00:52.51 | tag | wtf |
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| 00:53.47 | Chrissy2k5 | erm can anyone help please .. i am getting +bash: db_load: command not found |
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| 00:54.05 | Chrissy2k5 | i have the latest Berkeley DB installed .... just though |
| 00:54.20 | candc540 | is there a place i can get help with my orinoco card? |
| 00:54.33 | EfaistOs | how to make a dvd-video image with files in lowercase ? |
| 00:54.40 | tag | its not doing it |
| 00:54.54 | tag | dvs: Should I chance linking it myself? Its a remote box |
| 00:54.59 | amahbod | anyone? |
| 00:54.59 | tag | dvs: The makefile just 'aint doing it |
| 00:55.04 | amahbod | bueller? |
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| 00:55.15 | FieldySnuts | a Makefile doesn't do things like that |
| 00:55.18 | Chrissy2k5 | ~[ tag ]~ dvs quit dude |
| 00:55.19 | xnotte | how can i change my date ? |
| 00:55.28 | tag | Oh |
| 00:55.45 | Chrissy2k5 | ~[ xnotte ]~ man time |
| 00:55.47 | tag | screw it, I'm linking myself |
| 00:55.54 | tag | Chrissy2k5: that is annoying nick completion |
| 00:56.02 | Chrissy2k5 | ~[ tag ]~ dont lie |
| 00:56.11 | simonrvn | Chrissy2k5: wrong man page too |
| 00:56.19 | Chrissy2k5 | ~[ simonrvn ]~ no :| |
| 00:56.20 | FieldySnuts | no kidding it is |
| 00:56.20 | xnotte | Chrissy2k5, no man entry |
| 00:56.28 | FieldySnuts | @kill Chrissy2k5's nick completion |
| 00:56.45 | Chrissy2k5 | Reformatting time(1), please wait... |
| 00:56.52 | Chrissy2k5 | :| works fine for me ... |
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| 00:57.19 | amahbod | is anyone there |
| 00:57.23 | Chrissy2k5 | nope |
| 00:57.25 | amahbod | that can help me |
| 00:57.25 | amahbod | :( |
| 00:57.31 | simonrvn | now read that manual, what does it say time(1) does? |
| 00:57.33 | CyberShadow | how can I get a graphical grub with a splash image? the texinfo manual doesn't cover that part... |
| 00:57.33 | Chrissy2k5 | read the rules dude |
| 00:57.37 | greg | amahbod: what apps? |
| 00:57.55 | amahbod | greg, Twinview |
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| 00:57.59 | tag | I'm scared, oh well here it goes nothin |
| 00:58.05 | amahbod | greg, i am trying to use dual monitors |
| 00:58.09 | simonrvn | @+setting time |
| 00:58.09 | ravenbird | i heard setting time is if you're using a coexisting DOS/Win on your x86, put UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS else put UTC=yes. use tzconfig to set the right timezone, then use date (man date) to set time (avoid doing that when precious applications are running, some might get confused). Now do hwclock --systohc if RTC is local, or hwclock --systohc --utc if UTC. Erase ... |
| 00:58.15 | Chrissy2k5 | ~[ tag ]~ what goeds nothing ? |
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| 00:58.21 | greg | amahbod: sory Im' so tired I'm confonding with db_load |
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| 00:58.44 | T-u-N-i-X | hello.. can somebody help me about my wireless card which seems to be working fine with ndiswrapper but cannot take any ip |
| 00:58.46 | tag | installing my kernel by making the /vmlinuz symlinks myself since the make file wasn't doing it for <unknown reason> |
| 00:58.47 | greg | amahbod: I don't know Twinview |
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| 00:59.00 | greg | amahbod: xinerama ? |
| 00:59.17 | pdb | http://www.gnu-linux.it |
| 00:59.21 | amahbod | greg, its similar but made for nvidia cards |
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| 00:59.44 | greg | amahbod: nvidia forum doesn't help? |
| 00:59.51 | amahbod | noone is answering |
| 00:59.52 | amahbod | :( |
| 00:59.53 | Chrissy2k5 | erm can anyone help please .. i am getting +bash: db_load: command not found |
| 00:59.56 | amahbod | i have been sitting there for an hour |
| 00:59.57 | Chrissy2k5 | i have the latest Berkeley DB installed .... just though |
| 00:59.58 | abrotman | !piav |
| 00:59.58 | dpkg | Patience is a virtue - just wait and someone will answer you. |
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| 01:00.07 | amahbod | !stfu |
| 01:00.08 | dpkg | somebody said stfu was Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg |
| 01:00.11 | amahbod | i kid |
| 01:00.12 | amahbod | ;) |
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| 01:00.16 | abrotman | no you don't fucktard |
| 01:00.19 | amahbod | hahaha |
| 01:00.20 | abrotman | read the god damn docs |
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| 01:00.26 | FieldySnuts | @enter |
| 01:00.26 | ravenbird | The enter key or return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '--', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
| 01:00.31 | amahbod | !omfg |
| 01:00.31 | dpkg | from memory, omfg is "oh my fluffy gerbil" OH! MY! FUCKING! GOD! Oh MotherFucking God! |
| 01:00.32 | greg | Chrissy2k5: what apps ? |
| 01:00.40 | abrotman | i'm pretty fucking sure twinview isn't in debian .. therefore .. not a problem to be discussed in #debian .. |
| 01:00.43 | amahbod | !omgzhi2u |
| 01:00.48 | Chrissy2k5 | vsftpd |
| 01:00.51 | amahbod | ah ha! i owned dpkg |
| 01:01.05 | greg | Chrissy2k5: which db_load ? |
| 01:01.07 | abrotman | what an idiot |
| 01:01.09 | FieldySnuts | early sunday |
| 01:01.13 | Chrissy2k5 | the one for the virtual users |
| 01:01.18 | amahbod | i was joking |
| 01:01.21 | Chrissy2k5 | erm w8 |
| 01:01.22 | amahbod | come on, dont take it personally |
| 01:01.25 | greg | Chrissy2k5: I think with Berekeley it's a sample apps |
| 01:01.27 | wolvie__ | I've recently run a tcpdump on my sarge machine and discovered some outgoing connections from the tcp port 445 to localnet. Just curious what that might be? |
| 01:01.33 | Chrissy2k5 | db_load -T -t hash -f logins.txt /etc/vsftpd_login.db |
| 01:01.46 | abrotman | wolvie__: do you run samba? |
| 01:01.55 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: i still love you!!! :) |
| 01:01.57 | FieldySnuts | wolvie__: samba or fucked up windows systems |
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| 01:02.17 | wolvie__ | abrotman, yes but it's bind to other eth |
| 01:02.21 | greg | Chrissy2k5: Have you tried www.debian.org => package contents search ? |
| 01:02.39 | Chrissy2k5 | «« Greek0 »» what for ? |
| 01:02.39 | abrotman | wolvie__: are you sure? |
| 01:02.44 | Chrissy2k5 | «« greg »» what for |
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| 01:02.57 | greg | Chrissy2k5: ? |
| 01:03.05 | wolvie__ | abotman, yes just checked that in swat a while ago |
| 01:03.24 | Chrissy2k5 | «« greg »» have i tried package contents search for what ? |
| 01:03.35 | greg | Chrissy2k5: db_load :) |
| 01:03.41 | abrotman | wolvie__: and with netstat ? |
| 01:03.57 | Chrissy2k5 | yes it returned nothing |
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| 01:04.38 | greg | Chrissy2k5: apt-get source berkeley lib, I think it's it is a sample app (I'm not sure) |
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| 01:05.53 | FieldySnuts | hm thouight codetel.net.do was banned from freenode, guess not |
| 01:06.03 | pdb | http://www.gnu-linux.it/17/rev-os.mpg |
| 01:06.27 | abrotman | pdb: why are you spamming us? |
| 01:06.33 | FieldySnuts | beat me to it, 2nd url from there |
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| 01:07.12 | pdb | i am finishin the web site |
| 01:07.24 | abrotman | pdb: so what? .. we don't care? |
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| 01:08.05 | astro | is there a sed quick reference chart? |
| 01:08.07 | astro | !sed |
| 01:08.07 | dpkg | Sed is a stream editor. A stream editor is used to perform basic text transformations on an input stream (a file or input from a pipeline). Sed is located at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/sed/ or a pain in the ass, or see http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/unix/sed.html and http://queen.rett.polimi.it/~paolob/seders/ for common usages and examples |
| 01:08.13 | pdb | and only comunicate to fun of rms that on the http://www.gnu-linux.it/17/rev-os.mpg can find a video that i put inside my web site |
| 01:08.24 | abrotman | pdb: stop |
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| 01:08.39 | Chrissy2k5 | can anyone help me how i can check if Berkeley db is working and running ? |
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| 01:08.45 | pdb | no problem ok |
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| 01:08.46 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: do an ops. i'm too lazy. |
| 01:08.51 | wolvie__ | abrotman, `netstat -p | grep microsoft-ds` gives lines which to my knowledge are established connections to client on other eth. |
| 01:08.51 | FieldySnuts | nevermind |
| 01:08.58 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: if he doesn't stop now . i will |
| 01:09.05 | FieldySnuts | better way to do that is netstat -anp | grep :445 |
| 01:09.28 | FieldySnuts | better yet, lsof -i tcp:445 (or was it 445:tcp? dyslexiA) |
| 01:09.36 | abrotman | wolvie__: are you sure it's not supposed to be going out? |
| 01:10.48 | chealer | abrotman: hum...they pushed it :? |
| 01:11.02 | abrotman | chealer: i just got one |
| 01:11.10 | wolvie__ | FieldySnuts, `netstat -anp gave to more listen to 0.0.0.:* so I seems it's my mistake |
| 01:11.24 | chealer | oh it's just the arm build |
| 01:11.35 | chealer | abrotman: what's the problem with it? |
| 01:11.39 | wolvie__ | FieldySnuts, two connections that is |
| 01:11.53 | abrotman | chealer: nothing .. just been a while |
| 01:13.33 | abrotman | heh .. FNM in Gross Pointe Blank |
| 01:13.40 | abrotman | err Grosse |
| 01:13.45 | wolvie__ | FieldySnuts, wait they oryginate from 192.168.0.254 (other eth ip) to 0.0.0.0:* and from 127.0.0.1 to 0:0:0:0 so I don't know... |
| 01:14.02 | goatse | kernel 2.6.11 won't compile for me ._. |
| 01:14.08 | goatse | it complains about missing some scsi driver |
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| 01:16.17 | goatse | ._. |
| 01:16.24 | CyberShadow | does debian have the bootsplash patch? |
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| 01:16.37 | abrotman | !find bootsplash |
| 01:16.43 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bootsplash' (1): (/usr/share/hibernate/scriptlets.d/bootsplash) in utils/hibernate. |
| 01:16.48 | abrotman | guess not |
| 01:16.51 | abrotman | !bootsplash |
| 01:16.51 | dpkg | i guess bootsplash is http://www.bootsplash.org/ && http://www.bootsplash.de (Themes and updates) see also gensplash, or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdeskhks/chapter/hack08.pdf |
| 01:16.53 | abrotman | have fun |
| 01:17.24 | CyberShadow | not sure if recompiling the kernel is worth it |
| 01:17.34 | markybob | CyberShadow, it's not. |
| 01:17.52 | goatse | can anyone else compile kernel 2.6.11 ._. |
| 01:18.03 | markybob | yes |
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| 01:18.09 | greg | goatse: debian kernel ? |
| 01:18.14 | goatse | greg: yes |
| 01:18.16 | abrotman | !custom kernel |
| 01:18.16 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD" |
| 01:18.21 | goatse | it complains about missing some scsi driver |
| 01:18.31 | abrotman | goatse: why are you compiling a kernel? |
| 01:18.36 | greg | goatse: filled bug ? |
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| 01:18.40 | markybob | abrotman, damnit, man. you're way too trigger happy. please use "/msg dpkg tell foo about foo" |
| 01:18.44 | goatse | abrotman: my laptop needs stuff ._. |
| 01:18.47 | Talnakh | Can anyone give me a link to statistics on linux, regarding the numbers of programmers participating in development of linux ? |
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| 01:19.06 | chealer | one friend told me compiling your kernel and keeping only what you need would do an interesting improvement from the stock kernels. is there a resource that attempted to measure that? |
| 01:19.08 | abrotman | markybob: i was telling everyone .. because everyone should know :) |
| 01:19.22 | abrotman | Talnakh: #kernel .. for the kernel |
| 01:19.37 | abrotman | chealer: yeah .. it's about 1.53454564% |
| 01:20.08 | chealer | abrotman: oh, so you already answered the question |
| 01:20.31 | abrotman | chealer: the problems that come from it .. aren't worth it |
| 01:20.43 | Talnakh | abrotman, thanks. I am writing a thesis for management faculty on linux. |
| 01:20.59 | markybob | chealer, the only improvement is a few hundred kb that you'd save in ram. most of it is modules so they dont get loaded or bloat your system. just waste some hd space |
| 01:21.28 | abrotman | Talnakh: best of luck to you :) |
| 01:21.28 | chealer | markybob: ok, that's something I'm ready to ignore |
| 01:21.40 | abrotman | Talnakh: google should be of some help .. others have done research |
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| 01:22.22 | Talnakh | abrotman, yeah, faculty will give me an A+ automatically, cause they wont understand it anyway :-) |
| 01:22.41 | abrotman | Talnakh: uhm .. i guess that's good |
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| 01:22.53 | Chrissy2k5 | NOTE: Many systems have multiple versions of "db" installed, so you may need to use e.g. db3_load for correct operation. This is known to affect some Debian systems. The core issue is that pam_userdb expects its login database to be a specific db version (often db3, whereas db4 may be installed on your system). |
| 01:23.14 | greg | Chrissy2k5: and ? |
| 01:23.16 | Chrissy2k5 | damn it .. i cant get the virtual user thing to work :\ |
| 01:23.34 | td | hey I have problem with vice, the commodore 64 emulator |
| 01:24.00 | abrotman | like the hardware |
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| 01:24.26 | td | it says it couldnt load the kernal ROM 'kernal' |
| 01:24.33 | abrotman | !kernal |
| 01:24.33 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 01:24.45 | td | no, the error says kernal |
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| 01:24.58 | td | i thought it was weird too |
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| 01:25.24 | abrotman | td: checked the BTS |
| 01:25.25 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:25.53 | felipe_ | My Firefox is VERY buggy....I've reinstalled it and it keeps buggy....what should I do??? |
| 01:26.05 | semi_ | i installed a kernel-image-2.6. and when i boot it with root=/dev/hdb2 it errors on boot saying something about hdb2 not existing. do the kernel-images use udev/devfs or something? and if so, does anyone know what the equiv root= i should use is? |
| 01:26.06 | Chrissy2k5 | i cant use db_1 2 3 or 4 ... and i just did apt-get install libdb4.3 |
| 01:26.11 | markybob | felipe lay off the drugs |
| 01:26.24 | abrotman | wtf was that? |
| 01:26.26 | chealer | felis: no extensions, fresh profile? which versioN? |
| 01:26.27 | Chrissy2k5 | is there anythin else i need to do to get DB working ? |
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| 01:26.42 | chealer | oh he left |
| 01:26.43 | pipeline | Chrissy2k5: Install the -dev packages? |
| 01:26.50 | Wyzard | semi_: Debian stock kernels don't use devfs, and udev isn't part of the kernel |
| 01:26.53 | Chrissy2k5 | how ? |
| 01:27.02 | chealer | abrotman: that OpenBSD faq was really funny :) |
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| 01:27.08 | pipeline | Wyzard, semi_: Debian stock kernels DO include devfs, and udev depends upon specific things in the kernel. |
| 01:27.12 | abrotman | chealer: but it's true |
| 01:27.23 | JRWR | in KDE it says /dev/dsp Canot be opened (No such device) |
| 01:27.31 | chealer | abrotman: I don't doubt it, although it would be good to have the same thing said about linux |
| 01:27.33 | Wyzard | pipeline: It might be compiled in, but it's definitely not set to mount by default |
| 01:27.35 | pipeline | JRWR: Your audio isn't set up. |
| 01:27.37 | JRWR | im using woody with bf24 |
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| 01:27.41 | abrotman | chealer: but it is |
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| 01:27.43 | JRWR | duh |
| 01:27.44 | felipe_ | crashed again dammit |
| 01:27.45 | semi_ | its been a long time since i've played with them, whats was the structure of /dev/ide? |
| 01:27.46 | abrotman | !tell JRWR about real kernel |
| 01:27.48 | pipeline | JRWR: install alsa-base, alsa-modules |
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| 01:27.57 | JRWR | ok |
| 01:27.59 | abrotman | don't use alsa |
| 01:28.00 | abrotman | jeez |
| 01:28.03 | JRWR | lol |
| 01:28.06 | abrotman | complicate your life with crap |
| 01:28.12 | Chrissy2k5 | Pipeline - how do i install the -dev packages ? |
| 01:28.14 | felipe_ | Should I delete any remaining file/folder manually??? |
| 01:28.29 | abrotman | is he using chatzilla or some crap? |
| 01:28.39 | pipeline | jesus christ |
| 01:28.42 | pipeline | not even chatzilla sucks that much |
| 01:28.50 | JRWR | i intstalled with the 2.4 kernal |
| 01:28.51 | chealer | abrotman: hahaha |
| 01:29.03 | chealer | pipeline: but with a broken firefox |
| 01:29.11 | JRWR | bf24 |
| 01:29.20 | irreverentrevere | how do i tell if the radio on my wireless card is on or off? |
| 01:29.20 | JRWR | should i reinstall? |
| 01:29.26 | abrotman | !tell JRWR about real kernel |
| 01:29.28 | irreverentrevere | is there a file i can look at? |
| 01:29.31 | abrotman | make me fucking do it again |
| 01:29.43 | Wyzard | irreverentrevere: iwconfig, inthe "wireless-tools" package IIRC |
| 01:29.45 | JRWR | so i should reinstllmykernal |
| 01:29.56 | JRWR | or "Update" |
| 01:29.57 | JRWR | ok |
| 01:30.12 | resiak | Chrissy2k5: apt-get install foo-dev # replace foo with the name of the package. |
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| 01:30.46 | paolo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.02 | Chrissy2k5 | hmm so apt-get install libdb4.3-dev ? |
| 01:31.03 | irreverentrevere | Wyzard it doesnt say that the radio is on or off, but the signal level is "-10 dBm" and the noise is "-256 dBm" seems like those are fishy numbers to me... am i right? |
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| 01:31.24 | resiak | Chrissy2k5: Sure, why not. |
| 01:31.27 | Chrissy2k5 | Yey :) |
| 01:31.29 | Wyzard | irreverentrevere: seems like it to me |
| 01:31.40 | Chrissy2k5 | thanks alot resiak .. ur always the one that helps me and gets it right |
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| 01:31.59 | abrotman | resiak: i think Chrissy2k5 likes you :) |
| 01:32.02 | Wyzard | irreverentrevere: Actually, nm that... IIRC, those values are always negative |
| 01:32.03 | greg | paolo: Have you installed portmap :) |
| 01:32.09 | Chrissy2k5 | thats not cool abrotman |
| 01:32.10 | Wyzard | irreverentrevere: Try running wavemon for a more graphical display |
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| 01:32.18 | resiak | Chrissy2k5: No problem. Did you read man apt-cache yet? |
| 01:32.20 | irreverentrevere | shoot, wavemon it is |
| 01:32.24 | abrotman | Chrissy2k5: it was a joke .. notice the smiley :) |
| 01:32.35 | Chrissy2k5 | :| |
| 01:32.50 | irreverentrevere | Wyzard is TX power supposed to be negative, too? |
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| 01:33.19 | Wyzard | irreverentrevere: It's not negative power... zero would mean infinite power, so everything else is less |
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| 01:33.25 | Wyzard | irreverentrevere: (assuming I remember my physics correctly) |
| 01:33.36 | irreverentrevere | ah, ok |
| 01:33.38 | Chrissy2k5 | i'v been lookin at it |
| 01:33.59 | irreverentrevere | this is driving me nuts... |
| 01:34.09 | abrotman | got a wheel in your pants? |
| 01:34.15 | Vyrus001 | how do i croscompile debian for a nother prossesor (mips r4000) |
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| 01:34.32 | resiak | Chrissy2k5: Ace. The basic idea is: use `apt-cache search search terms` (replacing search terms with your own search terms) to look for a package, and `apt-cache show pkgname` (replacing pkgname with the package name) to see details on a particular package. |
| 01:34.32 | abrotman | Vyrus001: cross compile sucks .. do you really want to do that? |
| 01:34.40 | shingouz | irreverentrevere: have you checked in #wireless? they might have some additional hints |
| 01:34.55 | YamahaRx800 | does any one know if there is a graphical encoder for flacs? |
| 01:35.01 | Vyrus001 | abrotman, i need a linux os that will run on a mips r4000 prossesor |
| 01:35.07 | resiak | YamahaRx800: You mean, convert from something else to FLAC? |
| 01:35.09 | irreverentrevere | shingouz, yeah, but no one is around, i'll keep at it though, thanks |
| 01:35.13 | Chrissy2k5 | i see |
| 01:35.15 | Wyzard | irreverentrevere: Correction... "dBm is a power level expressed in dB above one milliwatt"... so presumably, one milliwatt would be 0 dBm |
| 01:35.32 | YamahaRx800 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.40 | abrotman | Vyrus001: did you try debian? |
| 01:35.53 | resiak | YamahaRx800: If you want to go from CD -> FLAC, I recommend sound-juicer. If you mean generic convert-foo-to-bar where foo and bar are media formats, I'd love to know if you find a program. I may wind up writing one ... |
| 01:36.22 | abrotman | Vyrus001: you realize that debian has both mips and mipsel ? |
| 01:36.36 | Chrissy2k5 | hmm so now i got that installed i shud beable to do "db4_load -T -t hash -f logins.txt /etc/vsftpd_login.db" ? |
| 01:36.58 | Vyrus001 | abrotman, that is what i read but i couldent see wher on that site i could download a distrobution |
| 01:36.58 | irreverentrevere | Wyzard thank you very much |
| 01:37.15 | abrotman | Vyrus001: is your box mips or mipsel ? |
| 01:37.20 | irreverentrevere | Wyzard i am trying something ... i just found a setting in the bios that MAY help... /me crosses fingers |
| 01:37.38 | YamahaRx800 | resiak: my friend gave me albums that are in flacs and he said that i could find an encoder to put them into mp3s to eventually go to my ipod:) |
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| 01:37.42 | P_o_P | hi |
| 01:37.47 | Vyrus001 | abrotman, mips i beleave ( i could be wrong) |
| 01:37.55 | abrotman | Vyrus001: read this .. decide |
| 01:38.05 | abrotman | http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.mips/ch02s01.html#id2525635 |
| 01:38.11 | abrotman | Vyrus001: is yours mips or mipsel ? |
| 01:38.17 | resiak | YamahaRx800: man flac, and you'll need an mp3 encoder. marillat has lame all nicely packaged. |
| 01:38.25 | P_o_P | can someone help me to install my netgear GA311 with kernel 2.6.11.6 plz |
| 01:38.45 | abrotman | what does one have to do with the other .. or with debian? |
| 01:39.03 | YamahaRx800 | resiak: so marillat will work to encode them? |
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| 01:39.32 | resiak | YamahaRx800: You could also use faac to encode them to AAC for your iPod. That's in Sarge with no extra repositories. However, I can't vouch for its quality. |
| 01:39.35 | resiak | !tell YamahaRx800 -about marillat |
| 01:39.36 | Vyrus001 | abrotman, mips (chip is an r4000) |
| 01:39.44 | irreverentrevere | Wyzard shingouz for your information and future reference, the setting is in the bios as to what keys control the wireless card being on and off... |
| 01:39.45 | resiak | YamahaRx800: You need to add those sources, then you can apt-get install lame . |
| 01:39.53 | resiak | YamahaRx800: (lame being an mp3 encoder. |
| 01:40.02 | abrotman | Vyrus001: there are two different ones for r4k |
| 01:40.09 | shingouz | irreverentrevere: ouch. what laptop you have there? |
| 01:40.13 | abrotman | r4k-ip22 and r4k-kn04 |
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| 01:40.34 | paster | "newtonia" at 217.26.150.114 pasted "Trying to update JuK..." (115 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/396 |
| 01:40.41 | irreverentrevere | shingouz a dell inspiron 5150 i am pissed at myself for not thinking to look in the bios earlier |
| 01:40.58 | CyberShadow | err, "newtonia" is me |
| 01:41.00 | YamahaRx800 | resiak: i have debian |
| 01:41.05 | shingouz | irreverentrevere: well... those things happen, you may need some more caffeine :) |
| 01:41.09 | wolvie_ | I've noticed outgoing tcp traffic from port 445 and 135 from my linux eth1 to different hosts in the subnet. What can couse this? I run samba server but it's bind to eth2 and lo only. |
| 01:41.20 | YamahaRx800 | resiak: so that sarge program wont work |
| 01:41.32 | paolo | greg: I installed nfs-kernel-server, which depends on portmap through nfs-common. Do I get portmap running when the packets are installed? |
| 01:41.51 | greg | paolo: Yes |
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| 01:41.54 | CyberShadow | guys, what the HECK?! http://channels.debian.net/paste/396 |
| 01:41.59 | Vyrus001 | abrotman, then bolth will work :P |
| 01:42.04 | irreverentrevere | shingouz this has been an issue for a week now.. and i have even got online help from 3 people, read the service manual, looked at dell's linux site, got 2 people to help me in person.... |
| 01:42.21 | YamahaRx800 | resiak: is there a front end for lame? |
| 01:42.25 | Chrissy2k5 | hmm so now i got db installed i shud beable to do "db4_load -T -t hash -f logins.txt /etc/vsftpd_login.db" ? |
| 01:42.26 | abrotman | Vyrus001: no . not even close :) |
| 01:42.36 | amahbod | hey guys |
| 01:42.37 | irreverentrevere | shingouz well, now i know...the worst part is the key is not "iconed" like all the other hot keys, so you cannot tell by looking at it... |
| 01:42.44 | shingouz | irreverentrevere: so in the Dells case the setting is probably hidden pretty well. not nice but luckily you finally found the problem |
| 01:42.47 | abrotman | Vyrus001: you can try them both :) |
| 01:42.49 | resiak | YamahaRx800: I have absolutely no idea. Like I say, if you find one, tell me. But it's really not hard to use. |
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| 01:42.55 | greg | paolo: ps -ax show portmap? |
| 01:43.06 | YamahaRx800 | resiak: ok thanks tho |
| 01:43.07 | irreverentrevere | shingouz yeah, ont he minipci/wireless page in the bios, lol |
| 01:43.10 | amahbod | sorry to bother you again, but i am trying to full screen a movie on my dual monitor setup, and it only full screens on my primary |
| 01:43.12 | shingouz | :) |
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| 01:43.19 | amahbod | is there any way to fix taht? |
| 01:43.21 | amahbod | that |
| 01:43.22 | Fufie | anyone know if there has been passwd+pam problems in unstable lately? |
| 01:43.23 | paolo | greg: I can't see, I'm on another machine which is quite far |
| 01:43.30 | abrotman | #nvidia |
| 01:43.47 | amahbod | abrotman, everyone is idle :( |
| 01:43.50 | greg | paolo: nmap this machine will give you open port |
| 01:43.52 | abrotman | not our problem |
| 01:43.58 | Ragan | amahbod, what do you mean by not full screen on your tv? |
| 01:44.03 | abrotman | this is not the right place to ask because #nvidia is full of lazy people |
| 01:44.24 | CyberShadow | why would "apt-get install juk" require me to delete KDE and upgrade 252 packages? |
| 01:44.25 | amahbod | Ragan, TV? |
| 01:44.37 | Chrissy2k5 | omg that is so true .. erm guys can you help .. the guys in #windows on a diff server are asleep |
| 01:44.38 | amahbod | Ragan, i have a dvi and crt monitor, and want to full screen on either one |
| 01:44.39 | Chrissy2k5 | :P |
| 01:44.40 | Ragan | amahbod, or secondary monitor |
| 01:44.41 | Chrissy2k5 | j/k |
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| 01:45.12 | paolo | greg: I remember that "ps ax|grep portmap" gave me: "/sbin/portmap -i 127.0.0.1". What is that -i parameter? |
| 01:45.15 | amahbod | ragan, it doesnt full screen on my secondary monitor... if i drag the video over to my secondary, and full screen it, it makes it full screen on my primary |
| 01:45.19 | chealer | CyberShadow: what's your release? |
| 01:45.44 | greg | paolo: bind portmap to address. If you specify 127.0.0.1 it will bind to the loopback interface only |
| 01:45.54 | greg | paolo: :) |
| 01:45.55 | Ragan | amahbod, well, do your XF86Config-4 have your current res for both monitors? |
| 01:46.27 | CyberShadow | Debian GNU/Linux testing "Sarge" - Official Snapshot i386 Binary-4 (20041023) |
| 01:46.33 | amahbod | Ragan, yes both monitors have the same res |
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| 01:46.56 | CyberShadow | err, that was from a CD, so the "-4" means 4th CD |
| 01:46.58 | orbweaver | hi ... |
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| 01:47.06 | paolo | greg: but I didn't do anything to bind to 127.0.0.1. What the hell could have put that? How do I get it resolved? |
| 01:47.27 | orbweaver | I've got a little problem appearing after update of Debian |
| 01:47.42 | amahbod | how can i view what my current resolution is> |
| 01:47.43 | amahbod | ? |
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| 01:47.57 | Ragan | amahbod, as far as I know only one monitor can have HW acc and video overlays, try switching between prim/sec monitors if you want video on the other |
| 01:48.50 | Ragan | amahbod, in Gnome or KDE? |
| 01:48.57 | chealer | CyberShadow: it's probably normal that you have to upgrade packages then. as for "deleting KDE", what do you mean exactly? |
| 01:49.08 | amahbod | Ragan, fluxbox. |
| 01:49.19 | Ragan | amahbod, ah well =) |
| 01:49.31 | CyberShadow | chealer: http://channels.debian.net/paste/396 |
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| 01:50.11 | CyberShadow | and I think it updated when I added a new HTTP source (with apt-setup) |
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| 01:51.10 | orbweaver | dpkg: error processing xdm (--configure): |
| 01:51.10 | orbweaver | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.22 | chealer | CyberShadow: hum...I would suggest you to dist-upgrade first |
| 01:51.39 | orbweaver | I've tried to reinstall, remove, install .. nothing gets rid of this xdm problem |
| 01:51.46 | chealer | CyberShadow: but maybe others know better |
| 01:51.53 | CyberShadow | chealer: how much will that take on a 128kb connection? |
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| 01:52.29 | Antonio` | hi |
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| 01:52.46 | WiFiTux | someone got Web Messenger to work under Linux? |
| 01:52.54 | chealer | CyberShadow: try it to see, it won't be instant. BTW maybe you want amarok instead of juk ;) |
| 01:53.05 | abrotman | got what? |
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| 01:53.37 | Chrissy2k5 | hmm .. command to rename files/directories ? |
| 01:53.38 | Gnurdux | are gnome 2.10 and kde 3.4 still not packaged or is the topic just not updated> |
| 01:53.39 | Chrissy2k5 | :s |
| 01:53.46 | Gnurdux | mv |
| 01:53.49 | Chrissy2k5 | thanks :P |
| 01:53.56 | Gnurdux | mv file newname |
| 01:53.56 | WiFiTux | abrotman: WEb |
| 01:54.02 | WiFiTux | abrotman: Web Messenger |
| 01:54.12 | abrotman | erm . ok |
| 01:54.13 | CyberShadow | chealer: does it have global hotkey support? |
| 01:54.23 | abrotman | Gnurdux: unofficially .. yes .. officially . no |
| 01:54.30 | Gnurdux | i see |
| 01:54.38 | chealer | CyberShadow: if it means what I think, yes |
| 01:54.39 | abrotman | well . kde anyways |
| 01:54.44 | abrotman | dunno about gnome2.10 |
| 01:54.51 | orbweaver | anyone have an idea why I get an error configuring xdm .. everytime .. reinstall doesn't help |
| 01:55.00 | abrotman | what's the error |
| 01:55.14 | orbweaver | dpkg: error processing xdm (--configure): |
| 01:55.14 | orbweaver | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:55.28 | abrotman | orbweaver: is there another error farther up? |
| 01:55.35 | peterS | orbweaver: are there any error messages above that from the xdm postinst script? |
| 01:55.57 | orbweaver | nope .. this first appeared when I upgraded last year .. getting to be annoying |
| 01:56.09 | orbweaver | dryas:/home/tom# dpkg --configure xdm |
| 01:56.09 | orbweaver | Setting up xdm (4.1.0-16woody5) ... |
| 01:56.09 | orbweaver | dpkg: error processing xdm (--configure): |
| 01:56.09 | orbweaver | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:56.12 | CyberShadow | baaaaaaaaaa!!! same thing, when I try to install amarok! :((( |
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| 01:56.26 | scott | how do I change the login manager? it's gdm right now, but I want to make it Entrance. |
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| 01:56.40 | Chrissy2k5 | hmm .. command to copy a directory ? |
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| 01:56.48 | peterS | Chrissy2k5: cp -a |
| 01:56.49 | foobared | cp -r |
| 01:56.50 | greg | All :sorry |
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| 01:56.54 | abrotman | orbweaver: no pasting here |
| 01:57.03 | markybob | Chrissy2k5, learn how to use man. "man cp" |
| 01:57.07 | orbweaver | sorry |
| 01:57.16 | Chrissy2k5 | i didnt know it was cp sorry |
| 01:57.22 | orbweaver | I do dpkg --configure xdm |
| 01:57.34 | orbweaver | then it says setting up xdm |
| 01:57.36 | abrotman | orbweaver: apt-get -f install |
| 01:57.39 | peterS | orbweaver: well. something in the script /var/lib/dpkg/info/xdm.postinst is failing. find out what and why and it'll work |
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| 01:58.06 | abrotman | peterS: it's woody .. something that basic shouldn't be failing |
| 01:58.22 | peterS | abrotman: I know. but it is, and it's not spitting out any messages. so... shrug |
| 01:58.32 | CharlesBrown | Where can I get a gui with a list of the services that start up with my computer...(debian/sarge)...and be able to remove/add things to the list as I want? |
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| 01:58.47 | orbweaver | apt-get -f install xdm gives same error |
| 01:59.08 | abrotman | no .. just apt-get -f install .. no xdm |
| 01:59.20 | Ragan | CharlesBrown, why don't you learn to use a text editor instead? |
| 01:59.36 | chealer | just curious...is debian a self-hosting distribution? |
| 01:59.46 | resiak | Ragan: I presume that by "text editor" you mean "ls, mv and bash" ? |
| 01:59.50 | resiak | chealer: Define "self-hosting". |
| 02:00.01 | chealer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting |
| 02:00.02 | peterS | chealer: certainly it is |
| 02:00.06 | Ragan | resiak, no |
| 02:00.11 | chealer | peterS: thanks :) |
| 02:00.14 | CyberShadow | chealer: did you say "dist-upgrade"? i can't find it. |
| 02:00.19 | peterS | resiak: self-hosting means it can be rebuilt entirely on its own platform |
| 02:00.21 | CharlesBrown | Ragan, because most people like guis. |
| 02:00.23 | CharlesBrown | Just the way it is. |
| 02:00.24 | chealer | CyberShadow: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:00.24 | orbweaver | apt-get -f fails too! |
| 02:00.30 | greg | CharlesBrown: ksysv if you like kde |
| 02:00.31 | CharlesBrown | Why don't you learn to accept the fact that most users want guis. |
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| 02:00.49 | peterS | chealer: actually there may be a few old packages that can no longer be rebuilt from source and nobody has noticed. but those would be considered bugs |
| 02:00.56 | orbweaver | I guess I look at xdm.postinst |
| 02:00.57 | Ragan | CharlesBrown, really? Maybe 'most windows users'. |
| 02:01.05 | JRWR | ok i installed a REAL kernal (2.4.18-686) |
| 02:01.09 | CharlesBrown | Ragan, know..I'm sure most linux users also. |
| 02:01.12 | CharlesBrown | You'd be suprised. |
| 02:01.20 | Wyzard | chealer: Wouldn't that be true of any distribution that provides a compiler? |
| 02:01.21 | Ragan | CharlesBrown, very... |
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| 02:01.38 | p8m | hey |
| 02:01.39 | CyberShadow | chealer: "Need to get 730MB of archives." - that will take a GOOD while on my connection :( |
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| 02:02.00 | Wyzard | JRWR: "kernel", not "kernal" |
| 02:02.06 | greg | CyberShadow: what connection :) |
| 02:02.07 | Ragan | !kernal |
| 02:02.08 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 02:02.12 | JRWR | but it still says Can't Open /dev/dsp (NO Such Device) |
| 02:02.15 | peterS | orbweaver: well, a workaround if you can't figure it out (it's a long script) is just to comment out the 'set -e' at the top |
| 02:02.18 | chealer | CyberShadow: yeah. I don't know, sometimes apt-get does some strange things for me too |
| 02:02.20 | CyberShadow | greg: 128 |
| 02:02.29 | Wyzard | JRWR: What sound modules do you have loaded? |
| 02:02.35 | resiak | peterS: That's what I thought, but I was trying to figure out why anyone would think that Debian was not. |
| 02:02.36 | JRWR | aRts |
| 02:02.39 | JRWR | i think |
| 02:02.47 | JRWR | i really dont know |
| 02:02.47 | peterS | resiak: not all distributions are |
| 02:02.49 | abrotman | those aren't modules |
| 02:02.51 | greg | CyberShadow: Good time... |
| 02:02.56 | JRWR | well? |
| 02:02.57 | chealer | peterS: ok, I supposed Debian was self-hosting, but I wasn't sure |
| 02:02.59 | resiak | Ragan: Yes, you do mean that, since services are controlled by symlinks in /etc/rc?.d/ , not by a text file. |
| 02:03.02 | resiak | peterS: o.O |
| 02:03.04 | CyberShadow | if I cancel it mid-way (ctrl-c oslt), can I resume it by re-running the command again? |
| 02:03.04 | Wyzard | JRWR: That's not a driver |
| 02:03.10 | peterS | resiak: particularly the ones who aren't nazis about that sort of thing. they take binaries from third-party sources and don't rebuild from source |
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| 02:03.18 | orbweaver | peters .. I'm looking at the script now for xdm.postinst .. any ideas on how to debug? |
| 02:03.26 | JRWR | What driver should i install |
| 02:03.29 | Ragan | !tell CharlesBrown about GUI |
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| 02:03.33 | peterS | orbweaver: add 'set -x' to the top, then it'll print every line it executes |
| 02:03.34 | JRWR | i have a ESS audiochip |
| 02:03.35 | Wyzard | JRWR: aRTS is a sound server which does things like software mixing... programs send sound to aRts, and aRts sends sound to the sound card |
| 02:03.40 | leonel | Sarge is OUT ! |
| 02:03.44 | resiak | peterS: ...fair enough. |
| 02:03.45 | orbweaver | peters .. this is my work machine .. at home .. did almost the same thing and no errors .. I'm mystified |
| 02:03.48 | JRWR | so? |
| 02:03.49 | peterS | orbweaver: or, as I said, just comment out the 'set -e' and then internal errors will mostly be ignored |
| 02:03.50 | abrotman | leonel: no it's not |
| 02:03.50 | leonel | ups april 1st |
| 02:03.50 | Wyzard | JRWR: You need to load the appropriate driver module for your sound card |
| 02:03.52 | greg | leonel: sure ? |
| 02:04.03 | JRWR | where would i look for that? |
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| 02:04.12 | Antonio` | A question: mysqld has the startup option --skip-grant-tables but mysqld tells me following: |
| 02:04.13 | Antonio` | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.13 | Antonio` | Usage: /etc/init.d/mysql start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload |
| 02:04.13 | Antonio` | root@box:/# |
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| 02:04.18 | JRWR | i have a ESS audiochip |
| 02:04.23 | CharlesBrown | !tell Ragan die |
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| 02:04.37 | Ragan | !kill CharlesBrown |
| 02:04.39 | orbweaver | peters .. thanks .. it's an idea .. stuff works otherwise .. just the errors are annoying |
| 02:04.39 | CharlesBrown | !tell Ragan about die |
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| 02:04.51 | abrotman | character: don't be so lazy .. use an editor |
| 02:04.54 | Antonio` | ok I am in #flood now |
| 02:05.01 | Wyzard | JRWR: Kernel modules live in /lib/modules/<kernelversion>... use Google to find out what module you need for your sound card |
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| 02:05.21 | JRWR | so i would justput the mod in there? |
| 02:05.27 | greg | CharlesBrown: ? |
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| 02:05.44 | Wyzard | JRWR: No, it's already there -- Debian stock kernels come with a large number of driver modules enabled |
| 02:05.48 | CharlesBrown | greg? |
| 02:05.51 | JRWR | So? |
| 02:05.52 | chealer | CyberShadow: it's not 100% safe, maybe you could use Ctrl-Z instead? |
| 02:05.56 | greg | CharlesBrown: ksysv |
| 02:05.57 | scott | how do I set /etc/init.d/entranced to start at startup? |
| 02:06.01 | abrotman | Wyzard: he's using bf24 kernel afaik |
| 02:06.08 | Wyzard | JRWR: You need to actually load it into the running kernel, using modprobe |
| 02:06.16 | JRWR | oh |
| 02:06.27 | JRWR | no i upgraded to 2.4.18-686 |
| 02:06.30 | Ragan | CharlesBrown, anyways, for your question have a look at http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialInitProcess.html |
| 02:06.31 | Wyzard | abrotman: He said a few minutes ago that he installed 2.4.18-686 |
| 02:06.36 | abrotman | Wyzard: erm .. ok |
| 02:06.43 | CyberShadow | chealer: I'll need to reboot to Windows tomorrow |
| 02:06.57 | chealer | scott: man update-rc.d |
| 02:07.01 | JRWR | ok |
| 02:07.10 | JRWR | ill work with modprobe? |
| 02:07.15 | Wyzard | JRWR: Once you find out which module you need, and load it to make sure it works, put the module's name on a line in /etc/modules so it'll be loaded automatically at boot time |
| 02:07.15 | abrotman | or modconf |
| 02:07.36 | JRWR | ok |
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| 02:07.44 | JRWR | restarts windows to linux |
| 02:07.48 | chealer | CyberShadow: I'm pretty sure you can interrupt during the download part with no risk |
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| 02:08.39 | CyberShadow | chealer: yes, but I won't need to re-download everything if I interrupt? |
| 02:08.49 | chealer | CyberShadow: no |
| 02:09.02 | CyberShadow | gonna test this as soon as the first package finishes downloading |
| 02:09.07 | chealer | yeah |
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| 02:09.31 | orbweaver | peters I modified xdm.postinst as you suggested and the error message went away as you said it would .. don't like to do things like that but it did work |
| 02:09.40 | orbweaver | peters thanks |
| 02:09.41 | peterS | orbweaver: *nod* |
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| 02:10.39 | WiFiTux | someone knows how to use Wine with a proxy? |
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| 02:11.23 | otto__ | hey i need some help |
| 02:11.35 | otto__ | I'm having trouble with gnome in ubuntu |
| 02:11.59 | WiFiTux | otto__: then Join #ubuntu! |
| 02:12.10 | otto__ | we have a community? |
| 02:12.22 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 02:12.22 | dpkg | well, ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu |
| 02:12.51 | WiFiTux | otto__: probably they do. |
| 02:13.06 | bob2` | they do indeed |
| 02:13.18 | bob2` | and it's way more polite than debian |
| 02:13.45 | WiFiTux | bob2: are you saying that you want to move to #ubuntu? |
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| 02:14.05 | bob2` | I'm in #ubuntu |
| 02:14.25 | bob2` | I'm saying it would be nice if people here didn't feel the need to be dicks quite so much |
| 02:14.31 | scott | chealer, what run level should I put it at? |
| 02:14.33 | WiFiTux | bob2`: awesome. Stay there. |
| 02:14.44 | greg | scott: 2 |
| 02:14.45 | bob2` | WiFiTux: piss off |
| 02:15.51 | p8m | debian rocks |
| 02:15.55 | Ketter | bob2`: with all due respect, but pointing out that people are not open and as social as you.. and thus claiming that "we" are dicks is anything but polite and friendly. |
| 02:16.00 | WiFiTux | !ubuntusmite bob2` |
| 02:16.44 | bob2` | WiFiTux: huh? you'll note that I always point ubuntu users to #ubuntu |
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| 02:16.50 | bob2` | often before they even say anything |
| 02:17.03 | abrotman | why does bob2 have a tick ? |
| 02:17.06 | WiFiTux | bob2`: are you bob2? |
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| 02:17.16 | bob2` | Ketter: indeed, I didn't intend to paint everyone with that broad stroke, my apologies |
| 02:17.26 | Guerin | WiFiTux: noooo, couldn't be |
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| 02:17.57 | WiFiTux | guerin: I'll bitchslap you. You don't see much people with 2 irc's at the same time. |
| 02:18.12 | bob2 | bah |
| 02:18.16 | abrotman | heh |
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| 02:18.20 | scott | greg, and the NN? |
| 02:18.22 | WiFiTux | :| |
| 02:18.34 | greg | scott: NN ? |
| 02:18.58 | scott | greg, sequence number |
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| 02:19.38 | greg | scott: what you want it' not really important unless your app depend on another apss |
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| 02:20.12 | Guerin | WiFiTux: you're such a fucking idiot. |
| 02:20.15 | JRWR | i give |
| 02:20.19 | chealer | scott: normally 99 |
| 02:20.19 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:20.34 | JRWR | plz tell me the command to install drivers for the ESS Allegro Audio |
| 02:20.35 | bob2` | lovely |
| 02:20.40 | WiFiTux | bob2: yes, people are dicks. Unfortunately that is the only way to force users go learn. |
| 02:20.50 | Ketter | bob2`: that's not the reply that I was looking for.. let me put it this way. If you think you should fight fire with fire, leave #debian and pick your fight elsewhere. Or, if you feel the need to change anything, act in such a way. Don't try and walk a grey and impossible line. |
| 02:20.52 | abrotman | i'm just confused why bob2 is here twice :) |
| 02:20.54 | WiFiTux | guerin: bla bla bla... |
| 02:20.58 | greg | chealer: sorry, you're right |
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| 02:21.41 | bob2` | WiFiTux: no, it's really not |
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| 02:22.01 | bob2` | and that's a very narrow point of view |
| 02:22.15 | zahod | JRWR, modprobe maestro3 for my version |
| 02:22.23 | digital__ | gn :) |
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| 02:22.31 | abrotman | bob2`: you have to admit .. that if you banned everyone who was rude/mean/inconsiderate .. you'd lose a lot of people here .. for better or worse .. lots of people gone |
| 02:22.45 | wojtek | hello, is this true that sarge is stable now ??? |
| 02:22.49 | abrotman | err lots of knowlegdable poeple |
| 02:22.52 | bob2` | abrotman: yes, I know |
| 02:22.53 | scott | chealer, greg, in some of the rc#.d directories entrance is S00 and in others it's K20 |
| 02:22.55 | abrotman | wojtek: it is not officially released |
| 02:22.55 | bob2` | and that's sad |
| 02:23.02 | bob2` | since they didn;t used to be rude |
| 02:23.06 | wojtek | eh.. ok.. someone told me so.. :( |
| 02:23.09 | bob2` | #debian's culture encourages it |
| 02:23.20 | wojtek | and i could not stand .. |
| 02:23.32 | wojtek | !dpkg |
| 02:23.32 | dpkg | somebody said dpkg was the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. a blootbot on #debian, or a bloodbot on #crack |
| 02:23.33 | WiFiTux | bob2`: I became rude becuase people was rude with me. hey! guess what, that's how I thought Linux Communitys are like. |
| 02:23.34 | abrotman | bob2`: well . when you have ops doing it .. kind of hard to enforce good behaviour eh? |
| 02:23.37 | greg | scott: K => Kill means stop |
| 02:23.41 | bob2` | WiFiTux: xactly |
| 02:23.52 | wojtek | !dpkg sarge |
| 02:23.52 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the current testing release code-name, and will be 3.1 when it's released. Ask me about <d-i> to get the installer. |
| 02:23.53 | bob2` | abrotman: yeah, I know |
| 02:24.03 | bob2` | anyway, that''s my saturday morning rant, my apologies |
| 02:24.08 | abrotman | wojtek: what are you doing? |
| 02:24.16 | wojtek | nothing nothing :) sry |
| 02:24.22 | abrotman | bob2`: but you have to admit .. we're pretty nice to lots of people :) |
| 02:24.23 | wojtek | i;m gone bye |
| 02:24.27 | wojtek | :P |
| 02:24.29 | bob2` | And sorry for implying everyone is rude, the vasyt majority of you are lovely people |
| 02:24.34 | WiFiTux | bob2`: I remind you that you are an OP and that you can kick whoever you want to. Feel free. I would be more than glad. Actually, I won't threat people bad here anymore. |
| 02:24.36 | p8m | #debian has been nice to me |
| 02:24.41 | abrotman | bob2`: your keyboard SUCKS!!! :) |
| 02:25.00 | bob2` | abrotman: it's my fact I can\t be arsed to situp that sucks;) |
| 02:25.03 | abrotman | i still can't figure out why bob2` has a tick |
| 02:25.16 | orbweaver | The few times I've come here for help .. ppl have been very nice. |
| 02:25.16 | bob2` | Ketter: no, I'm not being sarcastic |
| 02:25.20 | abrotman | Ketter: sorry .. i farted |
| 02:25.29 | WiFiTux | bob2`: You would have to start by banning greycat :) |
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| 02:25.32 | Ketter | abrotman: bloated feeling gone ? |
| 02:25.33 | WiFiTux | lol |
| 02:25.33 | chealer | orbweaver: man man! |
| 02:25.39 | abrotman | Ketter: mm bear |
| 02:25.41 | abrotman | beer |
| 02:25.49 | WiFiTux | !beer abrotman |
| 02:25.57 | Ketter | abrotman: take another then |
| 02:26.09 | Ketter | abrotman: and enjoy! |
| 02:27.12 | abrotman | bob2`: you're not allowed to #debian before coffee anymore :) |
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| 02:27.27 | JRWR | plz tell me the command to install drivers for the ESS Allegro Audio |
| 02:27.30 | orbweaver | any ideas on when sarge will be final? looks like errors keep coming down. |
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| 02:27.56 | WiFiTux | JRWR: google for debian ess Allegro |
| 02:28.00 | bob2` | orbweaver: soon, hopefully...there was an update on the release just this morning |
| 02:28.07 | bob2` | which I ain't read yet |
| 02:28.08 | peterS | orbweaver: right, in the next month, perhaps |
| 02:28.14 | abrotman | bob2`: another one? |
| 02:28.17 | orbweaver | bob .. didn't look in the last day |
| 02:28.22 | green_earz | JRWR: use modconf help to trick down your audio driver |
| 02:28.26 | Ketter | JRWR: please take a look at the manual that describes the install of the drivers for the ESS Allegro Audio |
| 02:28.45 | chealer | bob2`: read it, it's very good :) |
| 02:28.54 | abrotman | bob2`: loks like 3 updates |
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| 02:29.04 | WiFiTux | ok Peace out. |
| 02:29.11 | abrotman | oh .. just one for sarge |
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| 02:29.14 | chealer | !wwsr |
| 02:29.15 | dpkg | Sarge will release WIR; SIYH. Current estimates are N+30 days, where N is when debian-security updates for sarge come online, in april 2005. Latest release update : http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/04/msg00003.html and ask me about <sarge pool>, <wir>, <siyh>, <sarge guess> and <sing sarge>. Sarge takes too long? ask me about <vancouver> |
| 02:29.25 | bob2` | orbweaver: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/04/msg00003.html |
| 02:29.31 | JRWR | green_earz: where is theman at? |
| 02:29.49 | chealer | why do we need nice people in #debian when we have dpkg? |
| 02:30.17 | green_earz | JRWR: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/hardware.html |
| 02:30.23 | clav | upgraded a package and kept my config file; the config file format has changed; further attempts to upgrade, reinstall always keeps my prior config; what am i missing?? |
| 02:30.34 | Ketter | cafuego: noted .. and don't burn me .. not yet, I'm still waiting for the pope to lead the way |
| 02:30.44 | orbweaver | thanks bob2 |
| 02:30.58 | bob2` | clav: it won't ask on every future upgrade |
| 02:31.06 | cafuego | Ketter: I'm not religious, the pope is traditionally more likely to burn you ;-) |
| 02:31.10 | clav | bob2: correct |
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| 02:31.24 | z36ra | why did my voice getstolen the other day? WooHoo! to Sarge! |
| 02:31.36 | Ketter | cafuego: then I'll just have to hang on to my beliefs ;) |
| 02:31.37 | Draal | Hello.. Is the DVD release of Debian available via Bittorrent? |
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| 02:31.45 | clav | bob2: how do a force it to? |
| 02:31.54 | bob2` | clav: don't think it's possible |
| 02:32.00 | bob2` | clav: unless you downgrade and upgrade again |
| 02:32.03 | abrotman | bob2`: that's all well and good .. i don't see a single mention of the security infrastructure |
| 02:32.21 | chealer | bob2`: they talk about it |
| 02:32.27 | chealer | oops, abrotman |
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| 02:32.39 | abrotman | chealer: not really |
| 02:32.43 | brake | what is mean regexp? |
| 02:32.53 | clav | bob2: i've removed it and reinstalled but it still looks for the prior config and won't prompt or install the new one even after removind old config |
| 02:32.53 | Guerin | brake: man regex |
| 02:33.06 | Ketter | and.. why does Fox call it a "health crisis" .. it doesn't make any sense.. |
| 02:33.18 | bob2` | clav: yes, that won't be enough |
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| 02:33.35 | bob2` | clav: you need to purge it, but that will completely remove the config file |
| 02:33.41 | chealer | !tell brake about regexp |
| 02:33.48 | brake | no.not a command,but just a word! |
| 02:33.50 | clav | bob2: thats fine, how do i purge it? |
| 02:34.00 | bob2` | clav: dpkg -P blah |
| 02:34.04 | green_earz | JRWR: with modconf look at the section > kernel/sound/pci |
| 02:34.21 | abrotman | chealer: not much of a mention at all .. |
| 02:34.38 | Draal | Hello.. I'm using the Netinstall for the latest testing build of Debian and am trying to install it on a Intel Centrino notebook. In the installer, using the 2.6 Linux kernel, it will not detect my builtin wireless. Is there anything I can do to enable it so I may download packages? |
| 02:34.41 | clav | bob2: cheers :) i was looking in man apt-get |
| 02:34.54 | bob2` | Draal: the intel driver is crap and not in the kernel |
| 02:35.00 | chealer | abrotman: you red the section about testing-security and openssh? |
| 02:35.05 | bob2` | Draal: you need to build the ipw2100 or ipw2200 driver |
| 02:35.20 | Draal | bob2: I can't do that before I install Debnian, can I? |
| 02:35.26 | bob2` | Draal: indeed |
| 02:35.28 | abrotman | chealer: yeah .. not much description . considering all the brouhaha |
| 02:35.37 | chealer | abrotman: hum, ok then |
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| 02:35.42 | bob2` | well, you can, if you have another sarge machine, but you can't make the kernel use it |
| 02:35.43 | clav | sweet, thanks bob2 |
| 02:35.47 | bob2` | er, installer, not kernel |
| 02:35.54 | Draal | bob2: I don't |
| 02:36.01 | radiodurans | has anyone got comcast running on linux? |
| 02:36.07 | bob2` | it won't help you install over it, anyway |
| 02:36.09 | bob2` | radiodurans: the ISP? |
| 02:36.15 | Draal | bob2: So I'm screwed? |
| 02:36.17 | radiodurans | bob2`: yep |
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| 02:36.36 | Guerin | Draal: get a real ethernet controller |
| 02:36.38 | bob2` | Draal: I don't know...if your question was "how do I do a netinstall of Debian over wireless?", then I guess so |
| 02:36.44 | Guerin | one which you can plug a wire into |
| 02:36.49 | bob2` | radiodurans: plug your cable modem into your ethernet port. enjoy. |
| 02:36.58 | Draal | Guerin: I have a spare Microsoft wireless card... |
| 02:37.05 | radiodurans | bob2: they left me with a comcast install disk for windows |
| 02:37.08 | Draal | Guerin: Are those supported? |
| 02:37.08 | brake | regular express...hoho |
| 02:37.14 | bob2` | radiodurans: you don't need an install disk |
| 02:37.23 | radiodurans | bob2: but dont i have to register? |
| 02:37.26 | Guerin | Draal: no idea. Doubtful, based on the manifacturer. |
| 02:37.27 | Draal | Guerin: I don't have access to one |
| 02:37.28 | bob2` | no idea |
| 02:37.39 | Guerin | Draal: buy one. They're not expensive |
| 02:37.43 | bob2` | surely it's just a dhcp thing? |
| 02:37.54 | radiodurans | bob2: it just takes me to a comcast page when i type in www.google.com for example |
| 02:38.04 | Draal | Guerin: I don't have another comptuer to hook up the ethernet cord to, otherwise a highspeed access port. |
| 02:38.07 | digitalbit | Can not set the right charset in a smb shared dir ! even with locales = pt_PT@euro and mount -t smbfs -o iocharset=ISO8859-15 :( the special char come all crap ... any ideas ?! |
| 02:38.10 | Guerin | radiodurans: ring them up and ask them for instructions |
| 02:38.16 | Draal | Guerin: Is the DVD edition of Debian available bittorrent? |
| 02:38.26 | brake | regular expression! |
| 02:38.27 | Guerin | Draal: dunno. |
| 02:38.35 | radiodurans | guerin: i cant my phone service is suppose to be voice over ip :P |
| 02:38.43 | bob2` | radiodurans: http://www.davidlong.org/comcast.html |
| 02:38.47 | Guerin | jesusfuckingchrist |
| 02:39.02 | Guerin | wtf is it with people who don't have real ethernet or real phone service any more |
| 02:39.04 | Guerin | ? |
| 02:39.18 | bob2` | cheap, convenient |
| 02:39.21 | Draal | Guerin: Some of us are on dial up. I'm using a wireless access provider. |
| 02:39.21 | Guerin | shit |
| 02:39.22 | z36ra | heh |
| 02:39.32 | radiodurans | Guerin: cause ameritech sucks thats why :P |
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| 02:39.49 | Draal | I avoid cell phones at all costs... |
| 02:39.52 | Guerin | i don't have a landline phone, but there are two cellphones in this house |
| 02:40.05 | z36ra | Guerin:I'm on my laptopwith 3com card |
| 02:40.12 | orbweaver | My dsl works fine but I wouldn't trust the cable people .. they can't get tv working right |
| 02:40.24 | z36ra | and a sticky space key...he |
| 02:40.28 | Guerin | z36ra: 3com cards are real ethernet |
| 02:40.31 | radiodurans | ill probably steal someone's cell phone to fix that... |
| 02:40.41 | Draal | Is there a decent Hard Drive erase program out there? |
| 02:40.48 | Guerin | Draal: dd |
| 02:40.55 | shingouz | Guerin: not all of them are wired |
| 02:40.57 | Draal | Dban? |
| 02:41.17 | z36ra | Guerin: im swingina dongle. |
| 02:41.23 | Guerin | shingouz: true. Are the wireless ones supported in free software? |
| 02:41.26 | Draal | dd? |
| 02:41.44 | shingouz | Guerin: yes they are. the older ones are pure orinoco |
| 02:41.52 | Guerin | shingouz: see? real. |
| 02:41.57 | Draal | Guerin: What mystifies me about my wireless connection, is that Ubuntu supports it in the installer. I'm surprised Debian doesn't |
| 02:42.02 | digitalbit | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.08 | Draal | If the team wants to admit it or not... Many people use Centrino laptops. |
| 02:42.26 | Guerin | Draal: i'd guess it's a licensing issue. |
| 02:42.29 | radiodurans | orbweaver: my only choice was ameritech since they own all the lines for dsl |
| 02:42.35 | Guerin | it's not about admitting anything. |
| 02:42.41 | z36ra | Draal: did you try Knoppix? |
| 02:42.41 | Draal | Guerin: Well.. Its included in Ubuntu. |
| 02:42.43 | radiodurans | i'd sooner shoot myself |
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| 02:42.53 | peterS | Draal: what has ubuntu to do with anything? |
| 02:42.55 | Guerin | Draal: and ubuntu is not debian |
| 02:42.57 | peterS | Draal: they make their own decisions |
| 02:43.16 | Guerin | Draal: and hence has different requirements than debian does for what software gets into their distro. |
| 02:43.16 | Draal | peterS: Alright, alright. But they did include the installer. And it helps out quite a bit. |
| 02:43.27 | Guerin | Draal: so use ubuntu. |
| 02:43.31 | orbweaver | radiodurans .. I'm with Bellsouth .. they always seem to work in s. florida .. for me at least and tech support has been fine the one time the dsl went out |
| 02:43.31 | radiodurans | i like debian better than ubuntu...though ubuntu is one of the nicest live cds ive tried |
| 02:43.36 | Draal | Guerin: I can't stand gnome. |
| 02:43.48 | Draal | and I don't use even half of the included garbage. |
| 02:43.55 | cureless | Draal, use Kubuntu |
| 02:43.56 | Guerin | Draal: hah |
| 02:44.10 | peterS | cureless: you're assuming that someone who can't stand gnome would be able to stand kde |
| 02:44.16 | radiodurans | bellsouth? ive heard nothing but horror stories when i was in GA last week |
| 02:44.18 | peterS | that strikes me as a dubious assumptino |
| 02:44.28 | clav | Draal: dido |
| 02:44.41 | cureless | peterS, until we get xfcubuntu or twmubuntu. |
| 02:44.50 | Draal | Guerin: What is DD? I would like a Nuke CD type thing that fits on a buisness card sized CD. |
| 02:44.52 | mrhemlock | knoppix has/had icewm |
| 02:45.04 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | has |
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| 02:45.12 | z36ra | beer time... every time the conversation gets kinda circular. |
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| 02:45.43 | orbweaver | radiodurans .. maybe problems are local with bellsouth .. I do have a router at home that is really good at reconnects .. run two macs and a linux pc through it .. almost perfect service |
| 02:45.54 | Guerin | Draal: ~$ ls -l /bin/dd |
| 02:45.55 | Guerin | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 28588 2004-07-16 20:37 /bin/dd |
| 02:46.01 | Draal | Oh.. |
| 02:46.02 | orbweaver | .. radio .. as reliable as my univ. .. even more so |
| 02:46.16 | cafuego | !kill junkies |
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| 02:46.24 | Draal | Anyone have any luck running Jigdo under windows? It doesn't seem to want to work. |
| 02:46.58 | z36ra | windows? |
| 02:47.11 | Draal | That other OS. |
| 02:47.19 | cafuego | Draal: I didn't know Epsilon ran Windows |
| 02:47.31 | Draal | Cafu: I don't get the joke |
| 02:47.31 | z36ra | Draal: which one? |
| 02:47.40 | z36ra | OSX? |
| 02:47.45 | Draal | XP |
| 02:47.52 | Draal | OSX is out of my price range. |
| 02:47.52 | cafuego | Draal: The planet near bab5 is Epsilon, is it not? |
| 02:47.57 | z36ra | Oh! that piece of shit! |
| 02:48.25 | Draal | Cafuego: My mind can't proccess B5 humor after school. |
| 02:48.39 | Draal | My brain is busy working on calc problems. |
| 02:48.46 | Draal | Takes it a few hours to slow down and let in other information. |
| 02:48.46 | Guerin | my mind can't process B5 humour |
| 02:48.54 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | heh |
| 02:48.59 | Guerin | in fact |
| 02:49.08 | Guerin | can't even recognise B5 humour |
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| 02:49.30 | Draal | Guerin: Your hanging out in a Debnian channel. Being a B5 geek would by conplementary |
| 02:49.34 | cafuego | Guerin: yes |
| 02:49.44 | Draal | Or whatever... |
| 02:50.08 | Draal | Funny.. There arn't any typing programs for Linux... |
| 02:50.11 | pipeline | Draal: gtypist |
| 02:50.14 | Guerin | lies |
| 02:50.26 | Draal | Thats under Debian? |
| 02:50.26 | Guerin | irssi! |
| 02:50.29 | Draal | I'll look |
| 02:50.30 | neiljp | hmm, anyone got any tips on good progs for resizing ntfs partitions? I've used qtparted before (via knoppix), but my available knoppix qtparted doesn't recognise the sata drives - the debian installed does, but afaict it can't cope with resizing partitions like that? |
| 02:50.35 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | isnt it enrolls? |
| 02:50.43 | z36ra | matter of factI installedagametoday on WinXP. Sims (something)... turned out to be a video driver problem on this clients machine. |
| 02:50.46 | Guerin | SPEEDing|V\oNK: I don't believe so. |
| 02:51.02 | pipeline | neiljp: resizing ntfs sucks :( |
| 02:51.05 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | me spelling is horable anyway |
| 02:51.09 | neiljp | pipeline: tell me about it |
| 02:51.18 | pipeline | Draal: gtypist has good exercises, but it's not fancy :P |
| 02:51.23 | chealer | !tell neiljp about ntfs resize |
| 02:51.24 | neiljp | pipeline: its a new machine, so I was planning on leaving ntfs on there |
| 02:51.29 | z36ra | man! I'm proud of myself. |
| 02:51.30 | pipeline | Draal: It reminds me of a popular DOS typing tutor whose name I can't remember |
| 02:51.42 | Draal | pipeline: Zork |
| 02:51.42 | SuperSox | Mavis Beacon |
| 02:52.28 | Draal | Zork was perhaps the most interesting and used typing program ever. |
| 02:52.32 | z36ra | pardon the punchy space key. |
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| 02:53.13 | brake | which command to count? |
| 02:53.26 | buu | perl -le'print for 0..10' |
| 02:53.38 | cureless | brake, count what? |
| 02:53.39 | cafuego | buu: seq 0 10 |
| 02:53.43 | buu | =[ |
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| 02:53.51 | brake | file count1 |
| 02:53.55 | buu | cafuego: I hate you! |
| 02:53.59 | brake | ls -l |count |
| 02:54.04 | cureless | brake, ls | wc |
| 02:54.07 | buu | wc -l |
| 02:54.08 | cafuego | bah: ls -l | wc -l |
| 02:54.14 | brake | o i see! |
| 02:54.15 | cafuego | brake too |
| 02:54.18 | peterS | cafuego: no need for ls -l |
| 02:54.22 | Draal | Alright.. Guerin: Any idea on how I can get Debian onto my laptop? |
| 02:54.32 | peterS | ls -1 is the default for piped output |
| 02:54.34 | buu | Draal: Mental powers. |
| 02:54.48 | cafuego | peterS: Yes, odd isn't it? |
| 02:54.49 | cureless | peterS, ? |
| 02:55.03 | brake | 3x |
| 02:55.07 | Guerin | Draal: got a modem? |
| 02:55.12 | Draal | buu: "Installing Debian via mental willpower" is the last lesson after learning how to make tea with a blowtorch. |
| 02:55.14 | peterS | cureless: I said ls -1 is the default for piped output |
| 02:55.16 | z36ra | ouch~! |
| 02:55.18 | Draal | Guerin: Dial up? Yes. |
| 02:55.18 | peterS | cureless: which part of that was unclear? |
| 02:55.25 | buu | Draal: Oh, you haven't gotten that far yet? |
| 02:55.26 | Draal | Guerin: Only takes about what.. Four years? |
| 02:55.28 | cureless | peterS, sorry, I missread your 1 for l |
| 02:55.36 | peterS | cureless: right, I guess they do look similar |
| 02:55.50 | cafuego | cureless: Time to swltch fonts. |
| 02:55.56 | cureless | heh |
| 02:55.57 | peterS | cureless: my point is that 'ls | wc -l' does almost the same as 'ls -l | wc -l' |
| 02:56.12 | cureless | peterS, I know, I was lazy and said ls | wc |
| 02:56.16 | Draal | buu: I sidetracked at "social skills and how to work with women" Doesn't seem to be a tech tree I put too many points into.. |
| 02:56.24 | buu | Draal: =] |
| 02:56.25 | cafuego | peterS: it does *exactly* the same, but via different routes. |
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| 02:56.33 | z36ra | <<<~~~ has a dlink ethernet PCMCIA card for Drall... Dlink... works with tulip driver I believe. |
| 02:56.34 | brake | how to rename my nick? |
| 02:56.36 | peterS | cafuego: not quite. ls -l adds a header line which is counted |
| 02:56.47 | z36ra | pardon the Yahoo grammer |
| 02:56.55 | Guerin | Draal: so download cd1 on your existing OS, install it, use the modem to download a kernel source and a driver and so on, build a driver for your wireless card and go from there |
| 02:56.58 | peterS | cureless: ls | wc will count "this file" as two words |
| 02:57.14 | cureless | peterS, but not 2 lines. |
| 02:57.29 | brake | should like this ls -l|wc -l |
| 02:57.29 | cafuego | peterS: Hmm, missed that on the first go ;-) |
| 02:57.30 | peterS | cureless: well, actually, the wc reports three separate things, which makes it a bit hard to process. best to just specify what you really want |
| 02:57.32 | Draal | Guerin: Can you pick and choose which packages you install from the DVD release? |
| 02:57.36 | brake | how to rename my nick? |
| 02:57.44 | Guerin | Draal: don't use the damn dvd, just get cd1 |
| 02:57.45 | peterS | brake: depends on your irc client |
| 02:57.46 | cafuego | brake: /nick accelerator |
| 02:57.51 | peterS | brake: on many clients, the /nick command does it |
| 02:57.57 | brake | have a command? |
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| 02:58.06 | Draal | Guerin: How would I compile a driver? |
| 02:58.14 | Guerin | Draal: find a howt |
| 02:58.15 | Guerin | o |
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| 02:58.27 | brook | need relogin? |
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| 02:58.37 | z36ra | Draal: did you try a base install CDROM? |
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| 02:58.41 | brook | o i see! |
| 02:58.46 | brook | thanks! |
| 02:58.47 | Epixc | how do i rerun the debian net config?\ |
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| 02:59.10 | Draal | z36ra: No. I wanted to work with as few packages as possible. |
| 02:59.14 | brook | can i use a chinese name? |
| 02:59.28 | Draal | z36ra: For godsake.. I don't even use Open Office. |
| 02:59.30 | peterS | brook: you have to use ascii characters. 16 of them or less. |
| 02:59.36 | green_earz | Epixc: do you mean network setup if so install etherconf |
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| 03:00.01 | mud | can i convert wma files to mp3 files in debian? |
| 03:00.15 | z36ra | Drall: the base install cd's are lessthan 50M. |
| 03:00.19 | drini | open them with xmms |
| 03:00.20 | Guerin | mud: decoder | lame |
| 03:00.27 | drini | use the disk writer plugin to wav, then run lame on them |
| 03:00.28 | drini | ;) |
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| 03:01.21 | drini | oh, that's new to me, decoder |
| 03:01.22 | cg0def | how can I get gstreamer-xvid? |
| 03:01.22 | Guerin | you can get an mp3 encode output plugin for xmms |
| 03:01.22 | cg0def | it is not in apt |
| 03:01.22 | Guerin | !tell mud about rarewares |
| 03:01.24 | Draal | z36ra: I didn't see these on the homepage. Would you mind providing a link? Wth the ten ISO images for the i386, its somewhat confusing. |
| 03:01.29 | pipeline | cg0def: marillat |
| 03:01.41 | mud | cool thx all!! |
| 03:01.47 | cg0def | pipeline: what is that? |
| 03:02.00 | greg | cg0def: a french man |
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| 03:02.18 | Epixc | ok how can i conf my network to use a router? |
| 03:02.25 | z36ra | hang on |
| 03:02.25 | cg0def | ok if someone can give me a link that would be great |
| 03:02.27 | Guerin | Epixc: depends |
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| 03:02.41 | Bac9 | Epixc: man 5 interfaces |
| 03:02.44 | Draal | <--- Realizes he is a clueless bugger |
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| 03:02.52 | Epixc | Guerin, well, it owrks on lan but i cant get outside |
| 03:02.58 | Guerin | cg0def: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 03:03.06 | Guerin | Epixc: gateway |
| 03:03.08 | Guerin | Epixc: gateway |
| 03:03.10 | Guerin | eh |
| 03:03.12 | Bac9 | Epixc: do you need nat? |
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| 03:03.42 | cg0def | Guerin: thanks |
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| 03:03.53 | cg0def | pipeline: thx |
| 03:04.30 | Epixc | Bac9, Guerin, nvm, ifupdown worked |
| 03:04.36 | pipeline | cg0def: marillat and rarewares are my only 3rd party repositories. |
| 03:05.04 | Epixc | is 3 gigis anough for /usr? |
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| 03:05.38 | peterS | Epixc: on most machines, yes |
| 03:05.48 | Epixc | peterS, cool |
| 03:05.54 | peterS | Epixc: I've heard of some where someone installed so much crap that 3 GB filled up. you can ask karsten about that one, it was his |
| 03:06.17 | z36ra | Draal: http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies/ |
| 03:06.49 | cafuego | peterS: does karsten know about 'apt-cache show cruft' ? |
| 03:06.58 | peterS | cafuego: heh |
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| 03:07.25 | Epixc | haha, heres a great story about me being dumb. i was running a server and it was up for 2 months straight and then i open the case and guess what!?! |
| 03:07.41 | z36ra | Draal: also-- http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian-minicd/ |
| 03:07.46 | Epixc | comon, guess |
| 03:07.54 | peterS | Epixc: you shorted something and it shut down |
| 03:08.16 | Epixc | peterS, no, worse. i noticed that the heatsink fan wasnt spinning |
| 03:08.29 | Epixc | 2 months! |
| 03:08.37 | peterS | Epixc: oh, fun. I've had that happen. fortunately in my case the chip didn't seem to mind that much. (it was a Pentium 166) |
| 03:08.39 | cafuego | Epixc: As long as the box is essentially idle (what servers usually are) that doesn't really matter. |
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| 03:09.09 | cafuego | Epixc: My desktop box cpu fna is usually off, too. |
| 03:09.29 | Epixc | cafuego, well, it did for some reason. i boot it up and there we go, beepcode saying that the mobo is erroring |
| 03:09.37 | Epixc | so i swiped the ram.. |
| 03:09.39 | Epixc | and the hd |
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| 03:11.02 | Draal | z36ra: Thank you |
| 03:11.13 | Draal | z36ra: Hopefully this will let me get my wireless up and running. |
| 03:11.34 | Epixc | is the 2.6 kernel any better than 2.4? |
| 03:12.03 | cafuego | Epixc: yes and no, for varying values of "better". |
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| 03:13.38 | fooman | hi |
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| 03:13.58 | Epixc | cafuego, what are the improvements? |
| 03:14.11 | brook | how to know the count of user who using bash shell? |
| 03:14.26 | fooman | Is there a way to find out if a given file is a symbolic link to a given second file from a POSIX shellscript? |
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| 03:14.48 | peterS | fooman: you can use 'readlink' |
| 03:14.48 | brook | how can i know how many users are using bash shell from /etc/passwd? |
| 03:15.28 | Bac9 | brook: see whos shell is set to bash |
| 03:15.30 | Ether_Man | brook: you could use grep and count the number of rows having bash as their shell |
| 03:15.33 | peterS | fooman: or you can 'stat' both of them and look at the Device: field |
| 03:15.38 | cafuego | fooman: See also 'man test' the -h and -L options. |
| 03:15.38 | fooman | peterS: that looks good, thank you |
| 03:15.39 | peterS | wait, that doesn't work |
| 03:15.55 | Epixc | any reason not to use 2.6 |
| 03:15.57 | fooman | cafuego: thos only let me test if it is a symlink at all |
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| 03:16.10 | cafuego | fooman: Yes, see peterS's raedlink suggestion |
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| 03:16.53 | cafuego | fooman: if [ -L $link ]; then target=`readlink $link`; fi |
| 03:17.04 | brook | how to write this command? |
| 03:17.28 | cafuego | Fine, quit then! |
| 03:17.37 | peterS | fooman: if [ $(stat -L -c%D:%i _file1_) = $(stat -L -c%D:%i _file2) ]; then echo ok; fi |
| 03:17.47 | Ether_Man | brook: I suggest reading the manpages for the command.. |
| 03:17.54 | peterS | oh, he left |
| 03:18.00 | brook | cat /etc/passwd|cut -d ''|tee -s ' '|wc -l |
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| 03:18.06 | cafuego | peterS: he's a bitch |
| 03:18.25 | peterS | cafuego: anyway, I learned something new - how to extract just specific fields from stat(1) |
| 03:18.32 | cafuego | brook: grep bash /etc/passwd | wc -l |
| 03:18.43 | peterS | cafuego: not that it was hard to learn, being explained in 'stat --help', but anyway, it wasn't quite a waste of my time (: |
| 03:18.54 | cafuego | brook: Unless your users are called 'bash' that'll do. |
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| 03:19.41 | brook | o thanks |
| 03:20.05 | cafuego | brook: Alternatively, grep ":/bin/bash:" /etc/paswd | wc -l |
| 03:20.16 | peterS | not quite |
| 03:20.24 | peterS | it's the last field on the line, so ':/bin/bash$' |
| 03:20.28 | cafuego | :/bin/bash$ |
| 03:20.38 | cafuego | damn those last fields ;-) |
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| 03:20.44 | peterS | and use grep -n rather than wc -l |
| 03:20.50 | peterS | I mean grep -c |
| 03:21.03 | cafuego | How about an elegant awk solution? |
| 03:21.08 | peterS | getent passwd | grep -c ':/bin/bash$' |
| 03:21.25 | peterS | can't do better than that in awk |
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| 03:21.51 | cafuego | peterS: Of course you can, you can search for fields and increment counters |
| 03:22.06 | peterS | I don't know how to do string compare in awk. it isn't == or eq |
| 03:22.19 | cafuego | peterS: sed-like syntax afaik |
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| 03:22.39 | manchot | how to run a command/script when a user is login and run it only once? |
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| 03:23.03 | ariel | what means Konsole ends with signal 1 |
| 03:23.11 | cafuego | awk -F: '/\/bin\/bash/ {print $7}' < /etc/passwd | wc -l |
| 03:23.17 | abrotman | manchot: in thier profile |
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| 03:24.31 | manchot | abrotman:you mean .bashrc or .bashrc_profile? |
| 03:24.34 | manchot | which one? |
| 03:24.37 | peterS | cafuego: that doesn't do what you think it does. it doesn't check that only field $6 is /bin/bash |
| 03:24.48 | abrotman | manchot: depends how they are logging in |
| 03:24.54 | cafuego | peterS: No, but there's a way to make it do that, too. |
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| 03:25.09 | peterS | cafuego: I'd like to know that way |
| 03:25.14 | peterS | oh ok |
| 03:25.15 | peterS | me neither |
| 03:25.52 | manchot | abrotman: login bash on localhost |
| 03:26.07 | abrotman | manchot: you mean the console ... not X ? |
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| 03:26.58 | manchot | abrotman: yes, console,but when I login in X, I don't want it run again |
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| 03:27.10 | ariel | what means konsole has exited with status 1 |
| 03:27.14 | abrotman | manchot: then i believe the profile should work .. |
| 03:27.17 | abrotman | .bash_profile |
| 03:27.29 | abrotman | or /etc/profile if you want it system wide |
| 03:27.41 | manchot | abrotman: thanks. |
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| 03:28.24 | weehk | openoffice has poor resolution, fonts are big and not smooth |
| 03:28.35 | weehk | anyway to improve it?? |
| 03:28.40 | abrotman | you mean X has poor resolution? |
| 03:28.51 | weehk | i tried changing to smaller font size but did not work .. |
| 03:29.03 | rob^ | oo is ugly too |
| 03:29.09 | weehk | abrotman: sort of but the desktop looks great |
| 03:29.23 | weehk | any pointers |
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| 03:31.44 | manchot | I want to use another distros init scripts to boot the system, what is it possible? |
| 03:31.56 | abrotman | don't do it |
| 03:31.59 | pipeline | manchot: No you don't. |
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| 03:32.08 | pipeline | manchot: You want to customize the standard SysV init. |
| 03:32.19 | abrotman | read the .. README |
| 03:32.35 | manchot | I think that if I replace the files, it might work. |
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| 03:33.08 | abrotman | manchot: don't do it .. |
| 03:33.14 | abrotman | DO NOT DO IT! |
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| 03:33.42 | manchot | ok. abrotman: where to get thorough info about Debian's booting scripts and procedures? |
| 03:33.59 | abrotman | !init.d |
| 03:33.59 | dpkg | it has been said that init.d is where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript default". See also update-rc.d and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit |
| 03:34.15 | abrotman | also read /etc/init.d/README |
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| 03:35.06 | manchot | abrotman: what tool do I use to configure which services to start? |
| 03:35.13 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
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| 03:35.19 | pipeline | manchot: A quick rundown: scripts go in /etc/init.d and are made executable. You then create softlinks in /etc/rc2.d or rc3.d or what-have-you for the various runlevels. The name of the softlink determines what order scripts are run in. For example, S01Bar is run before S97Foo and all S99 scripts are run after everything else in the runlevel |
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| 03:35.39 | mdke | hi there i've just installed my first debian system |
| 03:35.48 | mdke | its giving me a few errors |
| 03:35.56 | mdke | can i paste 5 lines in here or #flood? |
| 03:36.17 | pipeline | mdke: use pastebin.ca |
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| 03:36.29 | abrotman | pipeline: rc3 is identical afaik |
| 03:36.38 | abrotman | mdke: you will get kicked if you do it here |
| 03:36.44 | abrotman | !paste |
| 03:36.44 | dpkg | paste is probably Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff |
| 03:36.53 | mdke | pipeline, right have done |
| 03:36.54 | mdke | http://pastebin.ca/8651 |
| 03:36.56 | manchot | pipeline: is S100 even later than S99? |
| 03:37.01 | manchot | or S99 is the last? |
| 03:37.18 | abrotman | !find Readline.pm |
| 03:37.26 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'Readline.pm' (3): (/usr/share/perl5/Psh/Builtins/Readline.pm) in shells/psh ;; (/usr/share/perl5/DBIShell/Readline.pm) in admin/dbishell ;; (/usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Readline.pm) in admin/debconf. |
| 03:37.47 | abrotman | mdke: did you really install debian .. or something based on it ? |
| 03:37.52 | mdke | really |
| 03:37.54 | pipeline | manchot: S99 is the last. It's shorthand for last. |
| 03:38.01 | mdke | abrotman, sarge to be precise |
| 03:38.13 | pipeline | manchot: By default, in debian, runlevels 2, 3, and 4 are the same. But you can change that. They're left available for the administrator's use |
| 03:38.25 | manchot | pipeline: is there any dialogue driven tool that I can use? |
| 03:38.27 | abrotman | mdke: no idea how you didn't get that perl module |
| 03:38.31 | neiljp | chealer: cheers for pointer |
| 03:38.40 | mdke | abrotman, do you know what package i need? |
| 03:38.45 | neiljp | amd64 base install is now complete :) |
| 03:38.52 | abrotman | mdke: should be in debconf package |
| 03:39.01 | pipeline | manchot: I wouldn't know. |
| 03:39.05 | mdke | abrotman, so just reinstall? |
| 03:39.48 | abrotman | mdke: install debconf package |
| 03:39.54 | mdke | ok |
| 03:39.58 | mdke | abrotman, thanks |
| 03:40.15 | mdke | the other error I am getting is about a misconfigured exim4 setup |
| 03:40.18 | sperm | sperm@syko:~$ glxgears |
| 03:40.19 | sperm | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 03:40.19 | sperm | Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual |
| 03:40.35 | abrotman | mdke: fix debconf first |
| 03:40.47 | mdke | sperm, you have the wrong number of colours i think |
| 03:40.56 | mdke | sperm, try 16 or more if you haven't already |
| 03:41.07 | abrotman | he's not loading the glx module |
| 03:41.10 | abrotman | i think |
| 03:41.11 | sperm | sperm@syko:~$ /nick subreal |
| 03:41.23 | mdke | abrotman, yeah the module fails to load |
| 03:41.28 | mdke | sperm, is it nvidia? |
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| 03:42.14 | mdke | abrotman, "debconf is already the newest version." |
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| 03:43.01 | mdke | what should I do do you know? |
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| 03:43.14 | dli | any vim experts? |
| 03:43.32 | kelan | whats your q? |
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| 03:43.47 | kelan | not really an expert, but i have a good idea:) |
| 03:43.47 | abrotman | mdke: updatedb;locate Readline.pm |
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| 03:44.00 | mdke | abrotman, ok will try |
| 03:44.09 | dli | kelan: in vim some.tex file, vim shows a blue line starting: +---773 lines |
| 03:44.10 | mdke | also apt is holding a couple of packages back |
| 03:44.12 | mdke | i don't know why |
| 03:44.15 | mdke | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 03:44.16 | mdke | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:44.23 | abrotman | mdke: the other option is to erm .. "fix" debconf |
| 03:44.50 | kelan | dli: thats folding |
| 03:44.59 | mdke | abrotman, i have this file: /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Readline.pm |
| 03:45.08 | abrotman | same one i have .. dunno why it doesn't work |
| 03:45.10 | manchot | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.18 | dli | kelan: why it folds something? I only got a trouble with it |
| 03:45.28 | abrotman | mdke: you can try this .. vi /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ... search for debconf |
| 03:45.30 | manchot | but I still can't write to the device. |
| 03:45.32 | abrotman | mdke: did you find it ? |
| 03:45.55 | brake | how to hide /dev/hda? |
| 03:45.55 | abrotman | should say Name: debconf/frontend |
| 03:46.01 | dli | kelan: how to disable folding? |
| 03:46.04 | manchot | touch: cannot touch `xxx': Read-only file system |
| 03:46.07 | mdke | abrotman, yeah its there |
| 03:46.14 | abrotman | mdke: Value: says what? |
| 03:46.25 | kelan | dli: its supposed to give like an outline mode of documents. i don't really use it myself. turn it off with ':set foldmethod=manual' |
| 03:46.26 | mdke | Readline |
| 03:46.29 | mdke | abrotman, ^ |
| 03:46.36 | abrotman | mdke: change it to say "Dialog" .. no quotes |
| 03:46.42 | kelan | dli: read more with ':help folding' |
| 03:46.46 | brake | how to hide device? |
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| 03:47.02 | mdke | abrotman, what does that do? |
| 03:47.02 | dli | kelan: yeah, smart ones always cause trouble for n00b |
| 03:47.13 | abrotman | mdke: changes the way debconf works |
| 03:47.14 | brake | how to hide device? so any person could not list my device file |
| 03:47.34 | mdke | abrotman, so what will it be doing now? |
| 03:47.35 | dli | kelan: can I put "set foldmethod=manual" in my .vimrc ? |
| 03:47.43 | abrotman | mdke: not be trying to use Readline.pm :) |
| 03:47.47 | kelan | dli: yep |
| 03:47.53 | mdke | abrotman, yeah i got that much! |
| 03:48.00 | dli | kelan: thanks a lot |
| 03:48.04 | abrotman | mdke: it uses the ncurses interface |
| 03:48.19 | mdke | i presume I have that installed |
| 03:48.23 | abrotman | you should |
| 03:48.29 | abrotman | hard to do pretty much anything without it |
| 03:48.36 | mdke | yeah ok |
| 03:48.50 | kelan | dli: no problem:) |
| 03:48.51 | _joey | hello bob2` |
| 03:48.53 | mdke | do you know how to stop apt from keeping back those two packages? |
| 03:49.23 | abrotman | use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade |
| 03:49.32 | mdke | tried that |
| 03:49.32 | brake | how to hide device? so any person could not list my device file |
| 03:49.36 | dli | kelan: hold on, I put a line of : set foldmethod=manual in .vimrc, but it still folds |
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| 03:49.54 | abrotman | mdke: what is it holding back? |
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| 03:49.59 | kelan | dli: hmm. did you restart vim? |
| 03:49.59 | abrotman | !tell yarjar about away |
| 03:50.19 | mdke | abrotman, discover and libdiscover1 |
| 03:50.29 | abrotman | apt-get install libdiscover1 |
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| 03:50.40 | dli | kelan: yes, I reran vim |
| 03:50.44 | orchid | dli: it shouldnt fold by default, is there anything else in the .vimrc that refrences folding? |
| 03:51.37 | dli | orchid: yes, by default folding is killing me, let me go through my .vimrc |
| 03:51.41 | orchid | dli: try to mv the .vimrc to .vimrc.bak and start vim again perhaps |
| 03:51.59 | dli | orchid: but I put set foldmethod=manual at the end of my .vimrc |
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| 03:52.14 | abrotman | mdke: better? |
| 03:52.32 | mdke | abrotman, its called a couple of new packages |
| 03:52.36 | mdke | but yeah i think its working |
| 03:52.39 | abrotman | mdke: yeah .. it will do that |
| 03:52.39 | mdke | right |
| 03:52.41 | mdke | next error |
| 03:52.49 | mdke | with the exim4 daemon |
| 03:52.50 | mdke | http://pastebin.ca/8652 |
| 03:52.52 | manchot | is it possible when I plugin a USb thumb drive and it is automatically mounted? |
| 03:52.54 | abrotman | bob2`: see .. i'm a nice guy :) |
| 03:53.03 | manchot | provided that I have a line in fstab |
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| 03:53.21 | brake | how to hide device? so any person could not list my device file |
| 03:53.29 | manchot | pipeline: so .xsession, S100 < S99 right? |
| 03:53.29 | abrotman | mdke: that's a nice one .. erm .. i have no idea :( |
| 03:53.31 | abrotman | check the bts? |
| 03:53.44 | manchot | pipeline: I mean is S100 the first one to be run? |
| 03:53.45 | abrotman | manchot: don't use that |
| 03:53.57 | manchot | abrotman: you mean S100? |
| 03:53.57 | pipeline | manchot: S01 is the first, S99 is the last |
| 03:53.59 | mdke | abrotman, it is a bit odd that I just installed now and have these errors... |
| 03:54.04 | abrotman | machyes |
| 03:54.12 | abrotman | err manchot yes |
| 03:54.13 | manchot | if I have S100, that will happen? |
| 03:54.20 | abrotman | read the man pages |
| 03:54.28 | abrotman | mdke: well .. yes .. |
| 03:54.54 | kelan | dli: the help file says that setting 'foldmethod=manual' will not remove current folds, so vim may be remembering the folds from when you had it on before, for that file |
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| 03:55.23 | dli | kelan: how to disable it? |
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| 03:55.27 | mdke | abrotman, ok line 6 of that file says: |
| 03:55.29 | mdke | domainlist local_domains = @:localhost:(none) |
| 03:56.00 | kelan | dli: you can delete folds with fold commands. read section 2 of the ':help folding' help file |
| 03:56.14 | mdke | i give in |
| 03:56.18 | mdke | i don't really want local mail anyhow |
| 03:56.21 | kelan | dli: it won't delete text or modify the doc, just the fold markers |
| 03:56.21 | dli | kelan: set foldlevel=0 |
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| 03:56.30 | abrotman | mdke: you could install a sane mta like postfix :) |
| 03:56.35 | mdke | yeah |
| 03:56.41 | kelan | dli: ah, yes |
| 03:56.42 | mdke | i just have the default base system atm |
| 03:56.57 | abrotman | mdke: or ask #exim what's wrong with it |
| 03:57.08 | mdke | aiolos:/home/matt# apt-get --purge remove exim4 |
| 03:57.08 | dli | kelan: no, but it cause huge trouble here, because I have to unfold one by one, and then able to go to a certain line |
| 03:57.14 | anthony | What is the url for the main debian repository? |
| 03:57.28 | abrotman | apt-setup |
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| 03:58.01 | dli | kelan: no, foldlevel=0 doesn't work |
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| 03:58.16 | dli | kelan: let me try gvim, maybe, I can set there |
| 03:58.17 | mud | can lame connvert .wma to .mp3? the man page says use .wav files |
| 03:58.21 | kelan | dli: try setting foldlevel to something really high |
| 03:59.00 | kelan | dli: or type 'zR' in normal mode |
| 03:59.19 | anthony | What is a good USA mirror host? |
| 03:59.32 | mdke | debian is nice tho i have to say |
| 03:59.40 | abrotman | anthony: apt-spy |
| 03:59.53 | dli | kelan: it's awful, if I have to type zR each time |
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| 04:00.14 | anthony | I don't have that, I'm using abuntu |
| 04:00.18 | mdke | abrotman, looks like postfix is working |
| 04:00.25 | abrotman | anthony: then ask #ubuntu |
| 04:00.29 | abrotman | mdke: good |
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| 04:00.41 | mdke | anthony, then just insert us. infront of your current sources |
| 04:00.44 | kelan | dli: did you try setting foldlevel really high? like 1000 or something. you could put that in your .vimrc |
| 04:00.57 | abrotman | mdke: he's using ubuntu .. it uses different sources |
| 04:01.08 | mdke | abrotman, in front of his ubuntu sources |
| 04:01.15 | mdke | i.e. us.ubuntu.com |
| 04:01.18 | mdke | or whatever |
| 04:01.22 | abrotman | dunno .. i don't use ubuntu |
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| 04:01.31 | mdke | ;) |
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| 04:01.44 | dli | kelan: let me try 1024, hate vim now |
| 04:02.00 | mynamejohn90 | Sorry for being off topic, but does anyone here know of a good A+ channel? I cant find one anywhere but im almost certain there has got to be one.. |
| 04:02.20 | dli | kelan: useless |
| 04:02.25 | abrotman | mynamejohn90: closest i would know would be #hardware |
| 04:02.28 | kelan | hmm |
| 04:02.33 | dli | kelan: can I make it runs "zR" auto each time |
| 04:02.51 | mynamejohn90 | ok thx |
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| 04:03.01 | kelan | dli: i don't now how |
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| 04:03.34 | kelan | dli: after you set foldmethod=manual in your .vimrc, did you try opening a different .tex file? |
| 04:03.36 | briareus | apt-spy? |
| 04:03.40 | mdke | k thanks for your help all, esp. abrotman |
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| 04:04.08 | abrotman | !apt-spy |
| 04:04.08 | dpkg | well, apt-spy is a secret! Shh!, or like 'mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' |
| 04:04.22 | Epixc | how do i make mysql run quiiety? |
| 04:04.24 | Epixc | quietly* |
| 04:04.30 | abrotman | as opposed to ? |
| 04:04.38 | cafuego | loudly |
| 04:04.55 | abrotman | i hate it when my sql server screams every time a query is run |
| 04:04.55 | dli | kelan: let me try, but how would that help, it insists fold this one |
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| 04:05.49 | papo | msg |
| 04:05.53 | kelan | dli: b/c if it works for other files, it may be that you just need to delete the folds vim is remembering from this one file and then you won't have to worry about it anymore |
| 04:06.00 | abrotman | is beverly hills ninja worth the next two hours of my life? |
| 04:06.02 | dli | kelan: this is interesting, 'foldenable' 'fen': Open all folds while not set. |
| 04:06.25 | dli | kelan: how do I unset the value? unset fen |
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| 04:06.48 | kelan | dli: set nofen |
| 04:06.54 | dli | kelan: thanks |
| 04:07.05 | Epixc | abrotman, like, not hogging up my console |
| 04:07.31 | abrotman | Epixc: i've never seen mysql do that |
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| 04:07.44 | walnuck | i'm currently trying out vmware workstation 5, a nice product, however i don't find any doc info about a KVM_FILE , nor is there a config file in my ~/.vmware but I do have an emulated OS that works, i'd like to boot immediately into an OS from the console, anyone knows if this possible? |
| 04:07.47 | abrotman | but .. i try not to use mysql .. so |
| 04:07.55 | abrotman | walnuck: #vmware |
| 04:08.15 | kelan | dli: i gotta go. i'm sorry i couldn't be more help. i hope you get it working. |
| 04:08.23 | Epixc | abrotman, ok, when i start it using mysqld it keeps running in the console, i want to free the console but keep mmysql running |
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| 04:08.39 | abrotman | Epixc: use the init script ? |
| 04:08.51 | dli | kelan: thanks a lot, bye |
| 04:08.52 | Epixc | abrotman, wheres taht |
| 04:08.59 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 04:09.23 | Epixc | kick ass thanks! |
| 04:09.32 | abrotman | !fundamentals |
| 04:09.32 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. This may help you to attain what others sometimes refer to as "a Clue". |
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| 04:10.28 | De_Mon | is there a log file that tracks when packages were downloaded/installed etc? |
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| 04:10.45 | abrotman | no |
| 04:11.04 | abrotman | you can look in /var/lib/dpkg/archives ... packages are saved there .. the date there is when they were installed |
| 04:11.20 | abrotman | err .. that's not right |
| 04:11.32 | abrotman | /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 04:11.34 | peterS | heh |
| 04:11.44 | De_Mon | the packages were purged already :( |
| 04:11.44 | abrotman | peterS: smack me! |
| 04:11.56 | peterS | nah, it was an honest mistake |
| 04:12.09 | peterS | besides, it's not as foolish as some stuff I've seen in the past 24 hours |
| 04:12.21 | abrotman | heh |
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| 04:14.53 | dinocore | can someone send me there sources.list? |
| 04:14.58 | dinocore | please |
| 04:15.35 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 04:16.08 | dinocore | im running ubuntu |
| 04:16.13 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 04:16.13 | dpkg | methinks ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu |
| 04:16.15 | dinocore | and want to use the debian repository too |
| 04:16.20 | abrotman | don't mix |
| 04:16.30 | dinocore | yea i know |
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| 04:16.37 | dinocore | but i want more packages |
| 04:16.57 | abrotman | so install debian |
| 04:16.58 | modeman | ? |
| 04:16.58 | Epixc | i have a minidisk player made by sony, is there any awy to transfer files to it from linux? |
| 04:16.59 | Tempus2 | anyone got a Debian 2.0 or 2.1 ISO for download? I can't find it anywhere. |
| 04:17.14 | rob^ | heh |
| 04:17.15 | dinocore | will you please just tell me the respotory url |
| 04:17.17 | abrotman | 2.0 ? |
| 04:17.24 | Temp[Away] | aye |
| 04:17.27 | rob^ | ubuntu is a four letter word in here dinocore |
| 04:17.29 | Epixc | or is that possable? |
| 04:17.40 | abrotman | Epixc: google for a start |
| 04:17.40 | Tempus2 | i need an older version for my OLD computer |
| 04:17.45 | blujay | oh rob^, you exaggerate :P |
| 04:17.51 | rob^ | hehe |
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| 04:17.54 | abrotman | !d-i dinocore |
| 04:17.55 | dpkg | dinocore, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 04:18.18 | dinocore | no im all set with ubuntu |
| 04:18.24 | abrotman | ok .. |
| 04:18.26 | dinocore | i just wanna expand my packages |
| 04:18.27 | jeff_jeff | can someone help me install the simcity 3000 patch? |
| 04:18.30 | abrotman | !d-i dinocore |
| 04:18.31 | dpkg | dinocore, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 04:18.35 | abrotman | install debian .. |
| 04:18.37 | blujay | jeff_jeff: what patch? |
| 04:18.41 | jeff_jeff | 2.0a |
| 04:18.43 | abrotman | if you don't want to use debian .. ask #ubuntu |
| 04:18.51 | Tempus2 | anyone got a Debian 2.0 or 2.1 ISO for download? I can't find it anywhere. |
| 04:18.52 | blujay | jeff_jeff: What, is there a Linux version of SC3k? |
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| 04:19.03 | abrotman | Tempus2: why would you want a debian that old? |
| 04:19.03 | jeff_jeff | yea there is blujay |
| 04:19.07 | jeff_jeff | loki put it out |
| 04:19.11 | blujay | jeff_jeff: really? I didn't know that, cool. |
| 04:19.17 | Tempus2 | abrotman: My computer is that old. |
| 04:19.22 | abrotman | Tempus2: specs? |
| 04:19.28 | dinocore | wow it would be so easy for you guys to just tell me the one line url |
| 04:19.31 | blujay | jeff_jeff: I never liked SC3k though, it was no fun compared to SC2000 |
| 04:19.38 | jeff_jeff | ahh |
| 04:19.42 | abrotman | dinocore: or you could install debian |
| 04:19.47 | jeff_jeff | well its a great game taht dosent need a open gl card |
| 04:19.52 | dinocore | thats redicious |
| 04:19.54 | jeff_jeff | and i dont know any else like that |
| 04:19.56 | jeff_jeff | honestly lol |
| 04:20.05 | blujay | dinocore: it might be wise to take the advice of people who know better. If you don't want to, why don't you ask people in #ubuntu about the best way to add more packages. |
| 04:20.05 | jeff_jeff | besides frozen bubble |
| 04:20.05 | abrotman | blujay: http://www.tuxgames.com/details.cgi?nc=1112415594&gameref=18 |
| 04:20.10 | Tempus2 | abrotman: 110 MHz, 48 megs RAM, 1.5 gig HD (and this computer isnt being used right now, i intend to install Linux on it and use it just for that) |
| 04:20.14 | rob^ | dinocore, there is a ubuntu mirror for this |
| 04:20.18 | abrotman | Tempus2: i run sarge on a 486 |
| 04:20.22 | rob^ | ask about it in #ubuntu |
| 04:20.37 | Tempus2 | with GUI? |
| 04:20.37 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | is there a #windows? |
| 04:20.42 | jeff_jeff | well does anyone have a working copy of sim city 3000 with linux |
| 04:20.46 | abrotman | Tempus2: no .. but woody should run fine |
| 04:20.47 | rob^ | SPEEDing|V\oNK, god I hope not |
| 04:20.54 | abrotman | jeff_jeff: http://www.tuxgames.com/details.cgi?nc=1112415594&gameref=18 |
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| 04:21.04 | Tempus2 | abrotman: which version is woody? |
| 04:21.06 | rob^ | SPEEDing|V\oNK, why? |
| 04:21.09 | abrotman | Tempus2: 3.0 |
| 04:21.12 | dinocore | someone please tell me the url |
| 04:21.17 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | dito |
| 04:21.23 | abrotman | dinocore: #ubuntu |
| 04:21.26 | Tempus2 | abrotman: is that any easier to find than 2.0 or 2.1? |
| 04:21.35 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | +D |
| 04:21.37 | abrotman | Tempus2: yes .. and 2.0 is about 8 years old iirc |
| 04:21.46 | anthony | ubuntu rules man |
| 04:21.57 | dinocore | yes dude |
| 04:22.00 | abrotman | then everyone who uses ubuntu should go to #ubuntu |
| 04:22.07 | hettar | so why aren't you in #ubuntu then ? |
| 04:22.08 | Tempus2 | abrotman: what are the specs of the one you're running sarge on? |
| 04:22.09 | rob^ | dinocore, try: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ |
| 04:22.10 | anthony | no man, we are taking over |
| 04:22.10 | abrotman | !based on debian |
| 04:22.11 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 04:22.33 | anthony | out with the debian, in with the ubuntu |
| 04:22.33 | dinocore | how about you guys get off irc for two seconds and tell me the stupid url |
| 04:22.34 | takatumi | !nickometer SPEEDing|V\oNK |
| 04:22.34 | dpkg | 'SPEEDing|V\oNK' is 99.890% lame, takatumi |
| 04:22.43 | abrotman | Tempus2: 486 DX2/66 36MB |
| 04:22.49 | abrotman | dinocore: how about you /part ? |
| 04:22.49 | rob^ | dinocore, I did above |
| 04:22.53 | jeff_jeff | thx abrotman |
| 04:22.57 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | +/ |
| 04:22.59 | Tempus2 | abrotman: and it runs fine on it? |
| 04:23.07 | abrotman | Tempus2: for some variations of "fine" :) |
| 04:23.16 | abrotman | Tempus2: you could install woody .. should work fine |
| 04:23.29 | Overand | dinocore: www.google.com |
| 04:23.31 | blujay | dinocore: they say you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. |
| 04:23.34 | Tempus2 | abrotman: You're sure? :P |
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| 04:23.43 | abrotman | Tempus2: my 486 used to run woody |
| 04:23.46 | dinocore | you guys are so lame |
| 04:23.49 | dinocore | tell me the url |
| 04:23.50 | abrotman | yes .. we are |
| 04:23.53 | simonrvn | dinocore: how about you at least be polite about your "request"? |
| 04:23.58 | abrotman | dinocore: #ubuntu |
| 04:24.00 | blujay | too bad you can't votekick in here :) |
| 04:24.03 | dinocore | i was being polite |
| 04:24.04 | simonrvn | dings: now that's just the hieght of laziness |
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| 04:24.09 | simonrvn | height * |
| 04:24.12 | abrotman | why not just ask #ubuntu |
| 04:24.14 | Tempus2 | abrotman: again, did it run woody well? :P |
| 04:24.14 | cafuego | dinocore: I'll tell you at my usualy $165/h rate, payment first please. |
| 04:24.17 | abrotman | there are people who use debian there ... |
| 04:24.21 | anthony | You guys should all get ubuntu |
| 04:24.25 | abrotman | Tempus2: yes .. fine |
| 04:24.25 | dli | abrotman: would 128 MB memory runs X well? |
| 04:24.27 | abrotman | anthony: shut up |
| 04:24.31 | blujay | anthony: you should get Debian |
| 04:24.33 | abrotman | dli: huh? |
| 04:24.36 | mrhemlock | one more FOR IGNORE |
| 04:24.39 | anthony | why, Debian sucks |
| 04:24.46 | blujay | anthony: then why are you here? |
| 04:24.50 | simonrvn | how about i start /ignoring people who go on wanking about ubuntu |
| 04:24.51 | abrotman | fucking idiots |
| 04:24.53 | mrhemlock | 2 |
| 04:24.54 | cafuego | anthony: I already use ubuntu, I don't spam #debian with drivel, though. |
| 04:24.55 | dli | abrotman: my friend got a sony laptop with 128 MB, extremely slow |
| 04:24.59 | Tempus2 | abrotman: Okay, thanks. I'll give woody a shot. |
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| 04:25.07 | abrotman | dli: CPU? |
| 04:25.10 | dinocore | debian blows cock |
| 04:25.16 | dinocore | and its users suck dick |
| 04:25.21 | blujay | Ubuntu wouldn't exist without Debian, ya know. |
| 04:25.22 | cafuego | !ops dinocore troll |
| 04:25.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: dinocore troll |
| 04:25.24 | abrotman | good ... since you are one ... dumbass |
| 04:25.28 | simonrvn | dinocore: insecure about your sexuality? |
| 04:25.29 | dinocore | together they are homosexual |
| 04:25.29 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 04:25.30 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@~dinoco*@d160h49.resnet.uconn.edu] by dondelelcaro |
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| 04:25.30 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 04:25.32 | mrhemlock | BOOT |
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| 04:25.37 | cafuego | <heh> |
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| 04:25.42 | rob^ | yay |
| 04:25.49 | abrotman | might want to take anthony with him |
| 04:25.51 | mrhemlock | thankyou |
| 04:25.53 | blujay | cafuego: geez, where is that command documented? :) |
| 04:25.58 | dli | abrotman, P-III 800 |
| 04:26.03 | jeff_jeff | abrotman, when i try to run the patch i get this ERROR: No matching delta for /usr/local/games/SC3U//sc3u.dynamic |
| 04:26.21 | abrotman | dli: uhm .. should be fine .. i just loaded a laptop for a coworker .. Celeron600 with 192MB i think |
| 04:26.22 | simonrvn | gotta put others down to feel good. how sad |
| 04:26.29 | abrotman | dli: which desktop are you trying to use? |
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| 04:26.34 | mrhemlock | !sing sunday |
| 04:26.34 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 04:26.35 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: eh, it's a reshall... could be totally different people |
| 04:26.42 | dli | abrotman: icewm |
| 04:27.05 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: no .. anthony was also advocating ubuntu while bad mouthing debian |
| 04:27.18 | gza | what's the current version of xfree for -stable? |
| 04:27.19 | abrotman | dli: that's pretty sad ... |
| 04:27.24 | abrotman | gza: woody has two |
| 04:27.25 | simonrvn | 4.1.x |
| 04:27.30 | dli | abrotman: looks like a memory problem to me, I recommend him to buy memory, but those old pc100 are more expensive than DDR 333 |
| 04:27.31 | simonrvn | and 3.3.6 |
| 04:27.39 | anthony | abrotman is a pussie |
| 04:27.41 | abrotman | dli: he should be able to use pc133 |
| 04:27.45 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: see |
| 04:27.54 | gza | simonrvn: boah brutal |
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| 04:27.56 | blujay | hmm, lemme try... |
| 04:27.56 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@~anthony@d161h152.resnet.uconn.edu] by dondelelcaro |
| 04:27.57 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 04:28.02 | abrotman | !beer dondelelcaro |
| 04:28.05 | blujay | ooh, cool |
| 04:28.10 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's not going to work |
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| 04:28.15 | abrotman | that will work :) |
| 04:28.18 | simonrvn | @dondelelcaro++ |
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| 04:28.29 | dli | abrotman: he told me something like $250 for 256MB PC100, no sense to put so much money to an old laptop |
| 04:28.35 | *** mode/#debian [-q *!*@~anthony@d161h152.resnet.uconn.edu] by dondelelcaro |
| 04:28.39 | abrotman | dli: what country do you live in? |
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| 04:28.46 | dli | abrotman: US |
| 04:28.46 | simonrvn | why not, bring new life to it |
| 04:28.48 | gza | simonrvn: and no sarge? |
| 04:28.50 | gza | on |
| 04:28.56 | abrotman | dli: erm .. PC133 SDRAM? |
| 04:28.57 | simonrvn | 4.3.0.x |
| 04:29.08 | Overand_ | argh |
| 04:29.14 | Overand_ | issues |
| 04:29.17 | dli | abrotman: not sure, he found PC100 |
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| 04:29.27 | gza | simonrvn: ah see much better :) |
| 04:29.32 | Tempus2 | abrotman: I can't find a download for woody. |
| 04:29.34 | gza | simonrvn: thanks ;) |
| 04:29.35 | abrotman | dli: erm .. that's not right |
| 04:29.38 | simonrvn | :) |
| 04:29.42 | abrotman | Tempus2: did you try debian.org? |
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| 04:29.56 | Tempus2 | abrotman: Yea, but the website is hard to find anything on. |
| 04:30.06 | reduz | Hi debianers! I have an issue which I guess it's a "bug" though not sure who is at fault... In any case.. I installed with the sarge-rc3, all fine.. but my soundcard is detected by hotplug using the OSS driver.. I definitely dont want this as I want the ALSA driver, how can I switch debian to not use the OSS driver? |
| 04:30.33 | abrotman | dli: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmodule.asp?module=SDRAM%2C+PC100&Attrib=Package&cat=RAM .. and PC133 is cheaper |
| 04:30.37 | abrotman | Tempus2: it's right on the left side |
| 04:30.40 | papo | I am new to debian |
| 04:31.01 | papo | and the resolution from my computer is 800x600 |
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| 04:31.13 | abrotman | Tempus2: right where it says "Getting Debian" |
| 04:31.13 | Tempus2 | abrotman: Yea i got that far, but I can't find "woody" anywhere |
| 04:31.15 | papo | it does not give me any other options |
| 04:31.30 | abrotman | Tempus2: which format wuould you like ? |
| 04:31.33 | reduz | papo: where are you trying to change it? |
| 04:31.34 | abrotman | !drxx papo |
| 04:31.34 | dpkg | papo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 04:31.39 | papo | how can i fix this problem |
| 04:31.48 | Tempus2 | abrotman: You mean like ISO? |
| 04:31.54 | abrotman | Tempus2: or torrent .. or whatever |
| 04:32.07 | papo | screen resolution |
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| 04:32.13 | abrotman | !drxx papo |
| 04:32.14 | dpkg | papo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 04:32.18 | Tempus2 | abrotman: ISO would be best |
| 04:32.20 | tzafrir_laptop | Tempus2, it doesn't appear as "woody". It is the "stable" version |
| 04:32.23 | simonrvn | @fuck aol proxies |
| 04:32.28 | tzafrir_laptop | Simply look for downloads |
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| 04:32.38 | abrotman | Tempus2: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian-cd/images/3.0_r4/i386/ |
| 04:32.43 | nz17 | What is a good photo management program? |
| 04:33.05 | abrotman | gphoto,f-spot ... that's all i know |
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| 04:33.12 | Tempus2 | abrotman: And I need all those ISOs? |
| 04:33.13 | papo | ok |
| 04:33.20 | abrotman | Tempus2: you don't *need* them all |
| 04:33.22 | papo | ok i'll do that |
| 04:33.26 | Bonkers | ok, what could I possibly be missing for X11 forwarding to work, ssh -X on client side and X11Forwarding yes in sshd_config on the server side, yet the DISPLAY variable doesn't get set and setting it manually doesn't work, is there something special I have to do on debian? |
| 04:33.32 | abrotman | Tempus2: you can just get the first one if you have broadband |
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| 04:33.39 | nz17 | abrotman: Any in Debian testing? |
| 04:33.39 | tzafrir_laptop | Tempus2, if you have a resonable net connection, use network installation |
| 04:33.42 | abrotman | Tempus2: and read the install guide |
| 04:33.47 | abrotman | !tell Tempus2 about ig |
| 04:33.55 | abrotman | nz17: gphoto is .. dunno if kde has a photo app |
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| 04:34.18 | tzafrir_laptop | Bonkers, anything strange from 'ssh -v'? |
| 04:34.25 | Tempus2 | abrotman: Which one is the first one? lol |
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| 04:34.29 | Bonkers | tzafrir: not as far as I can see |
| 04:34.36 | tzafrir_laptop | Bonkers, any silly message about xauth not available? |
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| 04:34.49 | abrotman | Tempus2: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian-cd/images/3.0_r4/i386/debian-30r4-i386-binary-1.iso |
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| 04:35.02 | tzafrir_laptop | Have you reloaded the sshd after changing the config? |
| 04:35.10 | Tempus2 | abrotman: and that's the only CD I need to install woody? |
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| 04:35.36 | abrotman | Tempus2: just for a base install .. yes .. do you have broadband? |
| 04:35.37 | tzafrir_laptop | Tempus2, yes |
| 04:35.46 | Tempus2 | abrotman: Indeed I do |
| 04:35.57 | abrotman | Tempus2: yes .. wait .. PCI nic or ISA? |
| 04:36.22 | tzafrir_laptop | ISA nic? anybody still uses those? |
| 04:36.39 | Bonkers | tzafrir: that was it actually, I didn't ahve xauth installed, thanks, works perfectly now |
| 04:36.41 | abrotman | tzafrir_laptop: in my 486 .. yes :) |
| 04:36.45 | papo | pkg are you there? |
| 04:36.55 | tzafrir_laptop | my 486 has PCI :-) |
| 04:37.01 | Tempus2 | abrotman: It does have PCI |
| 04:37.08 | Tempus2 | or will tomorrow |
| 04:37.23 | abrotman | heh |
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| 04:38.15 | grozniy | hi all, does anybody uses suspend2 software ? |
| 04:38.35 | abrotman | dli: seem reasonable? |
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| 04:39.53 | papo | dpkg thank you wherever you are. |
| 04:39.54 | dpkg | papo: no problem |
| 04:40.05 | papo | no problem |
| 04:40.18 | takatumi | grozniy: hibernate? |
| 04:40.36 | grozniy | takatumi: yes |
| 04:40.44 | doleyb | where is my new powersupply? |
| 04:40.59 | grozniy | takatumi: do you use it ? |
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| 04:41.53 | Tempus2 | Thanks for the help abrotman and tzafrir_laptop |
| 04:42.28 | abrotman | yay ... |
| 04:42.34 | abrotman | billions and billions served |
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| 04:43.03 | takatumi | grozniy: haven't tried it, but was thinking about it. |
| 04:43.09 | grozniy | takatumi: i compiled kernel with suspend2, but i dont where should i add the following : echo > /proc/software_suspend/do_resume |
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| 04:44.27 | takatumi | grozniy: nothing in here? http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO |
| 04:46.44 | grozniy | takatumi: in howto it says that i need to write it in linuxrc script , but i dont know where is this scripts |
| 04:47.05 | takatumi | grozniy: which section? |
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| 04:50.54 | grozniy | takatumi: Patching the kernel |
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| 04:53.00 | Supaplex | don't forget the ever popular redneck-kernel-patch (uses duct tape) |
| 04:53.25 | takatumi | grozniy: tried this? http://wiki.suspend2.net/DistroAndHardwareSetup/DebianInitrd |
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| 05:01.14 | takatumi | grozniy: are you using initrd? |
| 05:01.43 | takatumi | !nickometer |V\oNK |
| 05:01.44 | dpkg | '|V\oNK' is 42.000% lame, takatumi |
| 05:02.11 | takatumi | |V\oNK: still not perfect, try harder. :) |
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| 05:02.24 | |V\oNK | will do |
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| 05:04.08 | |V\oNK | can someone do me a favor and look up www.speedingmonk.net @ 70.17.141.227 please? |
| 05:04.42 | Bodhisattva | aww |
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| 05:06.18 | cafuego_ | Bodhisattva: dead as a doornail, fix yer firewall |
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| 05:06.29 | Bodhisattva | will do |
| 05:06.31 | Bodhisattva | thx |
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| 05:09.54 | jonas21 | I'm using the following (Apache/2.0.53 (Debian GNU/Linux) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.3.5) and there seems to be a problem with the default setup for mod_python.cgihandler (from sarge), where should I go? |
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| 05:12.46 | NP_complete | hi |
| 05:13.48 | NP_complete | i need to do a "getc(stdin)" but without doing echo on the screen, who to do that? |
| 05:13.56 | mud | is there a way to convert wma files to mp3 someone said xmms but i cant get it to work |
| 05:14.10 | ysothoth | mud: Don't ask |
| 05:14.11 | Todd_ | can anyone suggest a good pc brand with 64 bits? |
| 05:14.35 | mud | ysothoth why? |
| 05:14.36 | tzafrir_laptop | NP_complete, why would there be an echo? |
| 05:14.38 | Todd_ | can't believe dell doesn't have them |
| 05:14.46 | ysothoth | mud: That question is inappropriate on so many levels |
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| 05:15.27 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: There is an echo |
| 05:15.27 | mud | ysothoth please inform why im newbie dont want to offend |
| 05:15.30 | myren | are there any good bittorrent sites for open source projects? |
| 05:15.33 | Bodhisattva | OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i remember what it is.. |
| 05:15.45 | myren | i'm looking for a release of SULF, it was a fUSE plugin for C# binding |
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| 05:15.56 | k3k0_ | hi |
| 05:15.57 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: As i write, i can see my keys on my term. |
| 05:15.57 | myren | but the host, arg0.net is no where to be found |
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| 05:16.03 | ysothoth | mud: You are asking about proprietary software :) that's not included in the debian distribution |
| 05:16.04 | tzafrir_laptop | mud, what exactly do you want to do? |
| 05:16.21 | Opiated | I want to use a program that is only on woody and sid, it isn't on sarge which is what I run, how can I run that program on sarge, which package would/should work on sarge |
| 05:16.23 | NP_complete | it's raining here... |
| 05:16.30 | k3k0_ | where can possible be prblem when i do AltGr + 2 there dont come @ |
| 05:16.38 | mud | tzafrir_laptop convert a wma to mp3 |
| 05:16.42 | k3k0_ | im using xfce4 |
| 05:16.43 | tzafrir_laptop | NP_complete, This is something with the terminal settings. It is the terminal that prints those chars |
| 05:17.22 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: maybe... |
| 05:17.45 | Vince34 | mud, ------> google/linux |
| 05:17.57 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: But i don't really think so |
| 05:18.01 | Opiated | anyone? |
| 05:18.10 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: Imagine i need to enter a pass. |
| 05:18.22 | Todd_ | google was disappointing this april fools |
| 05:18.41 | tzafrir_laptop | It is the terminal. You need to tell it not to display those chars, though |
| 05:18.45 | rob^ | gogle gulp |
| 05:18.51 | rob^ | *google |
| 05:18.53 | Todd_ | yup |
| 05:18.55 | Opiated | I want to use a program that is only on woody and sid, it isn't on sarge which is what I run, how can I run that program on sarge, which package would/should work on sarge, can anyone help me with this thingy |
| 05:19.13 | Todd_ | Opiated: apt-get.org |
| 05:19.32 | Todd_ | or theres another way but apt-get.org has more updated ones |
| 05:19.52 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: I'm sure there's a way to do that, independent of term settings |
| 05:20.02 | NP_complete | i need to do a "getc(stdin)" but without doing echo on the screen. |
| 05:20.18 | tzafrir_laptop | Opiated, get it from sid and rebuild it. If it is sid and not in sarge this must be due to some problem |
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| 05:20.39 | nilson | What's a reasonable and secure chmod # for my users' home directories? |
| 05:20.42 | Vince34 | Opiated, which prog is there in woody and sid and not in sarge ? |
| 05:20.46 | Opiated | yes |
| 05:20.58 | Opiated | it isn't in sarge |
| 05:21.01 | Opiated | but in others |
| 05:21.05 | Vince34 | Opiated, which one ??? |
| 05:21.30 | NP_complete | this rain is droving me crazy |
| 05:21.39 | Opiated | falcon's eye |
| 05:21.41 | Opiated | nethack port |
| 05:21.48 | Vince34 | NP_complete, nice day start here ((o; |
| 05:22.09 | Todd_ | hes right |
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| 05:22.47 | Opiated | I really want to kill some monsters |
| 05:22.50 | Opiated | in that game |
| 05:22.52 | Opiated | looks sweet |
| 05:22.56 | Vince34 | Opiated, see yur source.list , or take the sid version on yur sarge...i can't see others ways... |
| 05:23.09 | tzafrir_laptop | NP_complete, tried using getpass(3) ? |
| 05:23.10 | Opiated | i mean i can always compile it |
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| 05:23.33 | punkrockguy318 | Hello! I'm looking through my sshd lots... Apparently someone was trying to brute force my machine or something.. i have around 100 invalid user errors all from the same IP address.. How can I block this IP address? |
| 05:23.34 | Opiated | but just wondering if there is a debian way |
| 05:23.36 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: But i don't need to get a pass! |
| 05:23.47 | Todd_ | Opiated, there is |
| 05:23.49 | Opiated | punkrockguy318, hosts.deny |
| 05:23.57 | Opiated | punkrockguy318, /etc/hosts.deny |
| 05:24.03 | Opiated | Todd_, what is it |
| 05:24.07 | tzafrir_laptop | do you need to get single characters? |
| 05:24.13 | NP_complete | yeah |
| 05:24.16 | tzafrir_laptop | Or a complete string? |
| 05:24.18 | NP_complete | 1by1 |
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| 05:24.42 | punkrockguy318 | Opiated, just the Ip address? what about this :ffff:? |
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| 05:24.50 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: single charsm inside a while. |
| 05:25.08 | bnoji | Are Intel Gbit NICs supported well? |
| 05:25.15 | Todd_ | Obiated: not sure but seen it done alot, try google |
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| 05:25.38 | Opiated | !tell todd about simple sid backport |
| 05:25.44 | Opiated | is that what you mean? |
| 05:26.19 | Todd_ | didn't get anything |
| 05:26.35 | punkrockguy318 | Opiated, could I have an example of blocking an IP address in hosts.deny? |
| 05:26.46 | bnoji | I need a 1U server with 3 10/100 NICs |
| 05:26.59 | bnoji | preferably 4 |
| 05:27.17 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: just imagine, when i type a 'A' i want my term to show an 'a' (for exemple) |
| 05:27.20 | bnoji | Intel has a 4 port Gbit NIC, but I have no idea whether it is supported or not |
| 05:27.57 | Opiated | dud |
| 05:27.59 | Opiated | ejust read the file |
| 05:28.02 | Opiated | damn |
| 05:28.03 | Opiated | :/ |
| 05:28.16 | Opiated | punkrockguy318, read the file, examples are in there |
| 05:28.20 | Bodhisattva | ive never had a *U |
| 05:28.28 | punkrockguy318 | so just: ALL: xx.xx.xx.xx? |
| 05:28.41 | Bodhisattva | i have servers tho just in regular cases |
| 05:28.54 | tzafrir_laptop | NP_complete, tcsetattr ? |
| 05:28.55 | Bodhisattva | is it realy worth it? |
| 05:28.58 | bnoji | I see Intel Pro/1000 is supported by e1000, but this is the Pro/1000MT |
| 05:29.30 | tzafrir_laptop | In the info docs of libc there's an example "Noncanonical mode example" which should be useful for you |
| 05:29.37 | bnoji | Intel says they use SingleDriver stuff for one driver across all Pro/1000, but does this apply to the e1000 module? |
| 05:29.58 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: ¿? |
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| 05:30.15 | omnistegan | hey is there a good download accelorator type app for linux |
| 05:30.21 | Todd_ | Opiated, ah got it, apt-get -t unstable install falconseye-data |
| 05:30.30 | Opiated | pinning |
| 05:30.34 | Opiated | why |
| 05:30.47 | Opiated | make debs for it from sid source no good? |
| 05:31.04 | Todd_ | dunno, searched google and thats all i got |
| 05:31.15 | NP_complete | tzafrir_laptop: ok |
| 05:31.17 | Opiated | !simple sid backport |
| 05:31.17 | dpkg | from memory, simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :) |
| 05:31.46 | punkrockguy318 | what package conains apf firewall? |
| 05:31.57 | Opiated | apt-cache search apf |
| 05:32.17 | punkrockguy318 | i did |
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| 05:32.52 | Vince34 | what's apf firewall ? |
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| 05:33.27 | Opiated | !apf |
| 05:33.33 | Opiated | heh, it was worth a shot |
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| 05:35.24 | NP_complete | I can see trogh my window... a gray rainind and could mirning (7:45AM) Valencia, spain. |
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| 05:37.29 | Bodhisattva | cafuego_, would you mind trying again? |
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| 05:39.59 | gogo_ | :) |
| 05:40.22 | sperm | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" |
| 05:40.28 | sperm | anyone have an idea about that? |
| 05:40.43 | pipeline | sperm: It means what it says |
| 05:40.56 | briareus | cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | grep glx |
| 05:40.59 | pipeline | sperm: You don't have GL libraries, or you don't have GL enabled in your X configuration |
| 05:41.22 | sperm | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.25 | sperm | is it there tho |
| 05:41.29 | briareus | ok so its not commented out |
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| 05:41.40 | sperm | corrext. |
| 05:41.40 | gogo_ | sperm, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 05:41.48 | sperm | okie then what. |
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| 05:43.48 | sperm | done with that. |
| 05:43.55 | Boyette | hi, if i download something from sid then the sarge packages catches up will it upgrade from sarge correctly? |
| 05:43.59 | punkrockguy318 | Opiated, thanks for your help |
| 05:44.15 | sperm | gogo_, i have all that crap enabled. |
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| 05:44.43 | sperm | Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual |
| 05:44.47 | sperm | hrhmrmmm |
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| 05:44.54 | jbAU | Boyette: downgrading is painful - i wouldn't recommend it |
| 05:44.59 | sperm | i have the drivers set correct i know that. |
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| 05:46.36 | jstevens | using an orinoco chipset 802.11b nic, does anything in the wireless-tools package allow me to search for essid's in range & respond w/ the essid name? |
| 05:47.11 | sperm | jstevens iwconfig all that shit. |
| 05:47.37 | jstevens | sperm: yep... that's what wireless-tools is |
| 05:47.50 | sperm | sorry |
| 05:47.56 | sperm | i was think about something else. |
| 05:47.58 | jstevens | sperm: I'm trying to figure out how to find out what essids are avail |
| 05:48.06 | jstevens | sperm: no problem |
| 05:48.10 | sperm | you need the command line todo it. |
| 05:48.26 | drini | jstevens: iwlist eth1 scanning |
| 05:48.37 | sperm | there gose the answer. |
| 05:48.43 | jstevens | sperm: that's what I'm trying to do... |
| 05:48.54 | jstevens | GraniteLinux:/home/jstevens# iwlist eth2 scanning |
| 05:48.54 | jstevens | eth2 Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported |
| 05:49.03 | jstevens | for some reason it don't like that... |
| 05:49.30 | jstevens | and yes, eth2 is the wireless nic :-) |
| 05:49.32 | sperm | you see it is ifocnfig |
| 05:49.35 | sperm | the card correct? |
| 05:49.38 | jstevens | yup |
| 05:49.49 | drini | you sure? eth1 ? |
| 05:49.49 | jstevens | actually I'm using the nic now |
| 05:49.52 | sperm | eth2 = not the right one |
| 05:49.55 | drini | have you loaded the modules? |
| 05:50.12 | sperm | yeah that is next thing. |
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| 05:50.40 | jstevens | yeah ... eth2 is the wireless nic (0 = wired, 1 = firewire) |
| 05:50.55 | drini | it doens't hurt to try the others |
| 05:51.07 | simonrvn | jstevens: just means you can't use kismet with it |
| 05:51.33 | jstevens | drini: modules for the nic, or modules for scanning? |
| 05:51.46 | sperm | mods for the nic. |
| 05:51.47 | drini | for the card orf course |
| 05:51.54 | jstevens | Nic works fine, can connect to home wireless network fine. |
| 05:51.54 | drini | but please do try other eth numbers |
| 05:52.01 | drini | after installing mine, ethernet whic hwas eth0 became eth1 |
| 05:52.08 | sperm | give me the list of all your nics cards |
| 05:52.14 | drini | I got puzzled but it wasn't big deal so I dind't research |
| 05:52.27 | sperm | ./msg me |
| 05:52.31 | takatumi | jstevens: I don't think that driver supports scanning, heard hostap works, dunnu. (have a similar card here) |
| 05:52.43 | takatumi | s/nnu/nno |
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| 05:53.04 | sperm | takatumi you good with hardware man? |
| 05:53.14 | sperm | aka graphic cards? |
| 05:53.20 | takatumi | sperm: which one? |
| 05:53.22 | sperm | nvidia cards? |
| 05:53.33 | jstevens | eth0 = 3c905 ... eth1 = firewire port ... eth2 = Dell truemobile 1150 Orinoco wireless nic |
| 05:53.41 | takatumi | !tell sperm -about nvidia one-liner |
| 05:53.54 | sperm | takatumi tried that |
| 05:53.58 | sperm | glx shit dosent work |
| 05:54.27 | takatumi | sperm: I don't have an nvidia card, but heard that factoid makes it all work. |
| 05:54.45 | sperm | taka, i might have fucked up pn the kernal upgradesw |
| 05:54.52 | sperm | that might be the proble,m |
| 05:54.57 | sperm | i tried that. |
| 05:55.04 | sperm | and nothing i might need to reinstall my box. |
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| 05:55.22 | jstevens | I tried using AirSnort, but can't get it to tell me the essid of what it "sniffs" |
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| 05:55.34 | takatumi | jstevens: same here. |
| 05:55.34 | sperm | yah |
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| 05:55.41 | sperm | mightbe the driver you are using |
| 05:55.49 | takatumi | sperm: upgraded kernel how? |
| 05:55.50 | sperm | or the mods to the kernal. |
| 05:55.57 | suzzi | any one rember what the command is to change the default codepage to UTF-8 ? |
| 05:55.57 | sperm | takatumi apt-get install :) |
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| 05:56.16 | suzzi | I know it's a dpkg-reconfigure but I dont rember what? |
| 05:56.16 | takatumi | sperm: fixed initrd? |
| 05:56.17 | sperm | cd /boot/ and rm -rf *.27.* |
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| 05:56.26 | takatumi | suzzi: locales |
| 05:56.28 | sperm | takatumi what needs to fixed? |
| 05:56.44 | sperm | in initrd? |
| 05:56.50 | suzzi | takatumi: cool thanks |
| 05:57.07 | yebian | Is it possible to install grub from a sarge disk without having to completely install the system? I let windows overwrite grub with its poison. |
| 05:57.09 | takatumi | sperm: which boot loader? |
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| 05:57.16 | sperm | grub. |
| 05:57.21 | sperm | i fixed that shit as well. |
| 05:57.35 | takatumi | yebian: yes, chroot to / and run grub-install /dev/hd? |
| 05:57.57 | takatumi | sperm: so you can boot now? |
| 05:58.00 | yebian | nice |
| 05:58.01 | sperm | yeah |
| 05:58.04 | sperm | i am on the box now. |
| 05:58.11 | jstevens | is there any way to tell AirSnort to tell you what the essid is of the APs it sees? |
| 05:58.11 | sperm | everything works but glx |
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| 05:58.36 | sperm | Linux syko 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Mar 22 13:36:06 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 05:58.43 | boukensya | hey guys.. I am running debian on my ibook. I was just wondering what program I need to map right click etc.. to like F12 etc.. also how to map the "apple button" in fluxbox |
| 05:59.05 | takatumi | sperm: then wtf was this? 08:54:53 sperm | taka, i might have fucked up pn the kernal upgradesw |
| 05:59.05 | jyfletcher | anything funky going on w/ fonts in testing and unstable? I upgraded testing, then wento to unstable and my fonts are hosed. |
| 05:59.08 | sperm | apt-get install flux* |
| 05:59.09 | drini | fluxbox has a configuratio nfile where you dfine the keycombos |
| 05:59.23 | drini | use xev to figure the codes of the apple button I think |
| 05:59.26 | sperm | cd /home/user/.fluxbox/keys |
| 05:59.27 | Petro | please kick M-A-D-O... |
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| 05:59.37 | Petro | spam bot |
| 05:59.46 | boukensya | yeah.. I use the "keys" file.. but I am not sure how to map the "apple button" as a MOD |
| 05:59.46 | chealer | jyfletcher: which package did you upgrade? |
| 05:59.53 | takatumi | Petro: /topic |
| 05:59.57 | sperm | fluxconf |
| 05:59.58 | boukensya | also flux won't do mouse clicks I don't think |
| 05:59.59 | sperm | apt-get that. |
| 06:00.03 | drini | how about trial and error ;) |
| 06:00.05 | boukensya | I have fluxconf |
| 06:00.09 | sperm | same here. |
| 06:00.12 | boukensya | and used it |
| 06:00.22 | boukensya | but it doesn't have the apple button as a MOD |
| 06:00.24 | jyfletcher | chealer : apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 06:01.12 | chealer | jyfletcher: that only brings your packages up-to-date? you have the same problems with testing and unstable? |
| 06:01.13 | drini | according to kde's control panel, on a mac keyboard: |
| 06:01.27 | drini | mayusculas is shft, control is ocntrol, option is mod1, and command is mod4 |
| 06:01.29 | jyfletcher | chealer : odd thing is, is that it seems like my fonts are "seen" (xfontsel shows them), but they don't render. |
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| 06:01.45 | simonrvn | Petro: "...| Spambots? /umode +E; Ask for an op |..." |
| 06:02.02 | drini | I personally find openbox system much cleaner to work with |
| 06:02.13 | takatumi | !ops M-A-D-O-N-N- spambot |
| 06:02.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: M-A-D-O-N-N- spambot |
| 06:02.17 | jyfletcher | chealer : yeah I was on testing, did an upgrade, and everything was hosed. Thought I'd try unstable, so I changed apt, and did an update and dist-upgrade. |
| 06:02.21 | tzafrir_laptop | jyfletcher, with what program? Does it use core fonts or Xft? |
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| 06:02.22 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 06:02.30 | helix | sigh, I am so tired of these spambots |
| 06:02.51 | boukensya | drini: so the apple button is mod4? |
| 06:02.54 | jyfletcher | tzafrir : anything in X looks like crap. |
| 06:02.55 | takatumi | !comfort helix |
| 06:02.56 | dpkg | There, there, helix. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 06:03.32 | tzafrir_laptop | jyfletcher, could you name some specific programs? |
| 06:03.34 | drini | I think so, I dont know which is option and which is command |
| 06:03.42 | drini | it doens't hurt to try and see which is |
| 06:04.36 | jyfletcher | tzafrir : kde default fonts for everything in KDE, and firefox, and the kde-font selector. Strangle the kde font viewer will see and render the fonts well when I select the, |
| 06:04.38 | boukensya | cool cheers.. well how about mapping the two other mouse buttons to F11 and F12? |
| 06:05.11 | tzafrir_laptop | jyfletcher, they all use fontconfig/xft and not core fonts |
| 06:05.28 | sperm | anyone have to support java? |
| 06:05.35 | sperm | like to a limewire to work. |
| 06:05.40 | sperm | or java games to work? |
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| 06:06.06 | limeG3 | on my ibook, when i press F1 or any function key i get an error (for F1:) "keyboard: unknown scancode e0 4c". any ideas? |
| 06:06.06 | kdog_ | I see log entries for logins but no logouts. Where is this enabled? |
| 06:06.17 | jyfletcher | tzafrir : Ok. I'm new to messing w/ fonts. What direction do I need to look to fix it? |
| 06:06.20 | tzafrir_laptop | jyfletcher, use fc-list to list font-config fonts. xlsfonts lists core fonts |
| 06:06.56 | boukensya | wow more and more people are going mac |
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| 06:08.15 | limeG3 | perfect little beater student laptop :) but i feel cramped without me virtual consoles.. they used to work..i beleive i broke it somehow trying to set all my language stuff to french |
| 06:08.24 | jyfletcher | tzafrir : the main font I know I have problems with is comic sans ms. Both font-config and xlsfonts have it listed, but in Firefox it does not render. |
| 06:08.51 | sperm | is appletalk needed in debain? |
| 06:08.53 | tzafrir_laptop | Here's a nice one. Try running the following in a subshell (it has a bad effect on the shell) |
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| 06:09.15 | tzafrir_laptop | true | foo() { echo "foo" ;} |
| 06:09.25 | tzafrir_laptop | Also try: |
| 06:09.30 | tzafrir_laptop | true | foo() { echo foo ;} |
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| 06:09.44 | tzafrir_laptop | Which should have had exactly the same results |
| 06:10.28 | limeG3 | sperm, appletalk will propel debianinto the year 3000 |
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| 06:11.14 | jbAU | any apt command that allows u to reinstall a package? |
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| 06:11.39 | tzafrir_laptop | --reinstall |
| 06:12.02 | jbAU | tzafrir: with apt-get ? |
| 06:12.25 | jbAU | tzafrir: ah yes -thank |
| 06:12.39 | tzafrir_laptop | apt-get install --reinstall apt-doc |
| 06:12.59 | keyes | Le pape agonise : Le pape agonise : http://PlaceLibre.ath.cx/propagande/JeanPaulII.jpg |
| 06:14.19 | drini | offtopic time? ok.. let's talk about euthanizing the pope |
| 06:14.44 | jbAU | drini: bad idea - look what happened with the girl who was in a coma! |
| 06:15.10 | drini | yeah, the pope was jealous abotou so much media coverage, and so he faked him eing sick |
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| 06:15.29 | jbAU | drini: he's more of a symbol if he dies naturally, you know being tough to the last stand and all |
| 06:15.44 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody tried my silly shell example from above? It causes strange results here |
| 06:15.48 | drini | waht if a pope gets in coma for many years |
| 06:15.51 | drini | since papacy is for life |
| 06:15.55 | drini | noother pope can be lected |
| 06:15.59 | jbAU | tzafrir: doesn't work for my csh shell |
| 06:16.03 | drini | but then cath church is headless for some time |
| 06:16.21 | limeG3 | about my "unknown scancode" errors, i have tried loading different keymaps - screwing me up to the point of having to ssh in or hard reset, etc. but even in those wrong layouts, the function keys give those same unknown scancode errors. so i don't think the problem is the keymap. maybe. |
| 06:16.39 | jbAU | limeG3: u using a usb keyboard? |
| 06:16.41 | locomorto | the church would simply be run by the Arch-Bishops |
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| 06:16.56 | limeG3 | i think it is USB inside,but it is the one built into a first edition ibook |
| 06:16.57 | drini | which aren't "infallible" |
| 06:17.19 | jbAU | drini: neither is god :) |
| 06:17.32 | jbAU | drini: at least from our perspective |
| 06:17.53 | jbAU | limeG3: u should be able to find out if it's a usb or ps2 keyboard by looking in the /proc |
| 06:18.00 | drini | yeah god won't, but pope certainly is, hehee but enough offtopic, let's get back to debian |
| 06:18.03 | limeG3 | jbAU: dmesg says it is loading usbkbd.c |
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| 06:18.52 | limeG3 | jbAU: it also says "ADB keyboard at 2" nod i'll poke around in /proc |
| 06:19.16 | simonrvn | @smart questions |
| 06:19.16 | ravenbird | methinks smart questions is "Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html", or http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 06:20.26 | Witigonen | Anyone know what [R,L] in a mod_rewrite condition in Apache does? |
| 06:20.31 | jbAU | hmm - i have an cyrus imap process that keeps dieing 'signaled to death by 11' |
| 06:20.47 | limeG3 | jbAU: i'm not sure what i'm looking for in /proc. it's not jumping out at me anyway. |
| 06:21.21 | doleyb | limeG3 /proc/bus/usb/devices |
| 06:21.26 | jbAU | limeG3: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices |
| 06:22.24 | jbAU | ok - i have a major probelmo with my cyrus 2.1 (runnin debian 3.1) - basically... it's screwed |
| 06:22.37 | limeG3 | hmm (thanks) the only thing i recognize in there is about the root hub |
| 06:22.52 | jbAU | limeG3: cool - then it is probably a PS/2 keyboard |
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| 06:24.07 | jbAU | limeG3: try some googling, looks like there maybe a few issues u need to address with that ibook: http://www.hispalinux.es/~data/ibook/x162.html |
| 06:24.38 | jbAU | so my cyrus install is fubar'd whenever i try to login to it, it crashes bigtime (cyrus/master[10758]: service imap pid 10768 in BUSY state: terminated abnormally) |
| 06:24.46 | limeG3 | jbAU: dmesg also says "Detected ADB keyboard, type ANSI". it may be the same as those old macs had, with the ..right, with the adb connectors. not ps2 exactly. oh? hmm ok i will check that - however, this did used to work properly 2 days ago. |
| 06:25.18 | jbAU | limeG3: ah yeah ADB - forgot about that crazy standard! of course! a mac has never used PS/2! :) |
| 06:25.25 | simonrvn | the old macs - except for some of the clones - never had ps2 |
| 06:25.50 | simonrvn | some motorola clones have ps2 ports |
| 06:26.03 | jbAU | simonrvn: :) yes the powerbook i'm using at the moment is the first mac i've ever bought |
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| 06:26.19 | Solet | my p/s-2 had ps/2 :P |
| 06:26.22 | Solet | go figure |
| 06:26.24 | simonrvn | jbAU: kind? there's many "powerbooks" |
| 06:26.35 | jbAU | so i've --purge'd the cyrus install into oblivion and re-installed fresh |
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| 06:26.46 | walnuck | anyone knows how to make a onepass session with X, eg: have one xterm load with X, and closing xterm closes X, anybody? |
| 06:26.49 | jbAU | simonrvn: err, a shiney one! g4 thang |
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| 06:27.00 | simonrvn | jbAU: cyrus can be a real PITA at first, but then it "clicks" |
| 06:27.13 | simonrvn | ok, recent one. cool |
| 06:27.26 | jbAU | simonrvn: mmm, well it's strange, i have 5 other cyrus installs all with very similar configs |
| 06:27.29 | simonrvn | pwetty =) |
| 06:27.43 | simonrvn | oh so it isn't new to you |
| 06:27.56 | jbAU | well not exactly |
| 06:28.05 | jbAU | but i'm scratching my head - cause imap keeps crashing |
| 06:28.21 | simonrvn | the hostname and other similar shit is what's different? |
| 06:28.24 | jbAU | it's not sasl - cause if i tell cyrus to use no passwords it will crash and burn |
| 06:28.31 | simonrvn | log not saying anything? |
| 06:28.37 | jbAU | the log says |
| 06:28.48 | jbAU | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.56 | simonrvn | segfault |
| 06:28.56 | jbAU | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.01 | dawg | walnuck, tried starting xterm rather than a wm? |
| 06:29.15 | simonrvn | is there a stray cyrmaster proc running maybe? |
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| 06:29.34 | jbAU | # ps ax | grep cyr |
| 06:29.36 | jbAU | 10758 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/cyrmaster -d |
| 06:29.41 | walnuck | dawg, there's no documentation on the -once paramate r (seeing with X --help 2>&1|less) , man X doesn't even mention about -once, i'm trying to see about it now.. |
| 06:29.51 | tzafrir_laptop | walnuck, use a custom .xinitrc or .xsessionrc |
| 06:29.56 | simonrvn | hmm, isn't starting any subprocesses |
| 06:30.00 | jbAU | simonrvn: i tried using strace, got some interesting results but not sure |
| 06:30.08 | sperm | how do you disable apple talk on start up? |
| 06:30.16 | tzafrir_laptop | In it, run the WM with & and run an xterm as the last program |
| 06:30.23 | simonrvn | jbAU: there's the debug stuff at the bottom of imapd.conf and cyrus.conf, enable that |
| 06:30.46 | simonrvn | sperm: just edit /etc/default/netatalk to say BACKGROUND="yes" |
| 06:31.06 | simonrvn | or use rcconf to remove it from runlevel 2 |
| 06:31.09 | sperm | simonrvn to disable it? |
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| 06:31.12 | walnuck | tzafrir, i'm making use of :1 |
| 06:31.13 | sperm | make it notload? |
| 06:31.21 | simonrvn | yes |
| 06:31.34 | walnuck | tzafrir, so I issue xinit instead of X ? |
| 06:31.39 | simonrvn | update-rc.d, rcconf, etc. take your pick |
| 06:31.52 | demism_ | I would like to change my ethernet card from 10baseT-HD to 10baseT-FD, mii-tool -F 10baseT-FD does this but I'd like it to boot up correctly instead of typing that each time |
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| 06:32.33 | sperm | simonrvn thanks. |
| 06:32.36 | simonrvn | module options, or a script to set that |
| 06:32.52 | demism_ | where are the module options? |
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| 06:32.57 | limeG3 | jbAU: i don't see anything on that web page. i'll look again after some sleep. oh well, thank god for gnu screen, but, come back function keys, come back! ;) |
| 06:33.08 | walnuck | tzafrir, that wasn't a figure ":1" means i want to display it on another instance,, emoticons -> :/ ! |
| 06:33.29 | simonrvn | demism_: depends, either set in /etc/modules if the driver is modular, otherwise use append in your bootloader config |
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| 06:34.45 | suzzi | howdy all what is the best way to create an alais/link to a dir? I want /home/share to also be accessable via /pub but I dont want to copy, I though that 'ln /home/share /pub' would work , but I apparently cant hard link directories? I would rather not use a symlink if at all possible? is there some thing I can do? |
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| 06:35.07 | demism_ | simonrvn, where is the config for grub? |
| 06:35.13 | jbAU | simonrvn: damn - the debug's aren't producing any results! |
| 06:35.16 | simonrvn | /boot |
| 06:35.25 | demism_ | menu.lst? |
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| 06:36.15 | mwilson | suzzi: Why would you rather not use a symlink? |
| 06:37.42 | suzzi | mwilson: if I rember correctly the diff is that a hard link looks like a file and has a seperate inode that you can assign to a diffrent user and such, where a symlink is just a link and all user info is kept? am I thinking of something else? |
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| 06:38.15 | mwilson | suzzi: How is that an answer to my question? |
| 06:38.22 | suzzi | mwilson: I would like to export /pub via nfs and webdav for my deveopmet crew but it needs to stay on my home partiton |
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| 06:38.50 | suzzi | mwilson: so I would need to change the permissions to allow www-data to have access to /pub |
| 06:39.06 | jbAU | simonrvn: damn - got to recompile with debug support |
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| 06:39.18 | suzzi | mwilson: but I dont want to give www-data access to /home.... or am I making this too complicated |
| 06:39.36 | mwilson | Yes, you're making this too complicated. |
| 06:39.43 | suzzi | mwilson: figures |
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| 06:40.06 | suzzi | mwilson: ok lets step back then ... how should I be looking at this? |
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| 06:41.55 | suzzi | suzzi: I have /home/share that I have assigned to the group of developers, I need to export this via NFS, but thats no problem, I would also like to add webdav access so that every one can access things when out of the office and in the end if I get webdav up and all works well then I can ditch NFS. |
| 06:42.16 | suzzi | mwilson: eep thats to you not me... man I need to get to sleep |
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| 06:42.59 | tzafrir_laptop | suzzi, the webdav docs state that if you access something via webdav it would be a bad idea to access it via the filesystem |
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| 06:43.14 | tzafrir_laptop | use ssh/sftp instead |
| 06:44.16 | simonrvn | fs access to webdav stores can mess up the store |
| 06:44.42 | jbAU | suzzi: just use samba shares :) - rofl |
| 06:45.13 | suzzi | tzafrir_laptop: ssh/sftp has already been set up, the thing is that there are a few of us (me included) that really like the ability to have things mounted on the client. |
| 06:45.32 | tzafrir_laptop | suzzi, what are the clients? |
| 06:45.57 | debiand00d | clients are nodes |
| 06:46.23 | tzafrir_laptop | debiand00d, the clients are also the ones paying the money |
| 06:46.28 | suzzi | tzafrir_laptop: a few laptops (osx and linux) and then some of us also would like access while at school and the firewall at school block ssh =( hence the desire for webdav |
| 06:46.33 | debiand00d | oh yeah |
| 06:46.41 | debiand00d | can you mount them? |
| 06:46.50 | debiand00d | lol :) |
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| 06:47.03 | demism_ | es this but I'd like it to boot up correctly instead of typing that each time, I would put it in rcx.d/ which one? |
| 06:47.06 | tzafrir_laptop | suzzi, you block ssh but allow such access tunneled on top of http? |
| 06:47.21 | tzafrir_laptop | Sounds like a huge hole |
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| 06:48.03 | jbAU | suzzi: just run ssh on port 80 :) |
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| 06:49.00 | trentbuck | I have a RAID question. |
| 06:49.04 | _SerhaT_ | jbAU> hah that's an option or port 443 .. as it is HTTPS and it's used by secured sites.. so they won't block that easily |
| 06:49.30 | trentbuck | I have an existing drive and a new drive of identical size. |
| 06:49.30 | jbAU | trentbuck: use mdadm |
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| 06:50.04 | jbAU | trentbuck: if you're using software raid it will be no problem |
| 06:50.20 | trentbuck | jbAU: I thought so. Will it hose my existing partition when I create the mirror? |
| 06:50.22 | debiand00d | trentbuck: if you have 2.6 kernel use mdadm |
| 06:50.44 | Hose | ? |
| 06:51.01 | jbAU | trentbuck: yes, you can't create a raid without blowing away whatever it is |
| 06:51.22 | jbAU | trentbuck: although u can make software raids by using disk partitions instead of whole disks |
| 06:51.31 | tzafrir_laptop | _SerhaT_, but I figure that those ports are used by apache, right? |
| 06:51.35 | trentbuck | jbAU: Can I boot from a mirrored partition? |
| 06:51.59 | jbAU | trentbuck: yes u can - though it is a little tricky |
| 06:52.05 | tzafrir_laptop | So the trick would be to tunnel ssh on top of http, and then use mod_proxy of apache to allow it to pass. |
| 06:52.12 | tzafrir_laptop | :-) |
| 06:52.16 | trentbuck | jbAU: define tricky :-) |
| 06:52.23 | debiand00d | The MBR is usually in sector 0 |
| 06:52.27 | jbAU | trentbuck: it's easier to have the root partition non-raided tho |
| 06:52.31 | suzzi | tzafrir_laptop: sorry about that, wireless connection |
| 06:52.32 | _SerhaT_ | tzafrir_laptop> well if you have Apache running with SSL yeah.. if not nope.. so you can run it there I assume.. |
| 06:52.48 | trentbuck | jbAU: That's OK. I'll back it up with conventional weapons. |
| 06:52.49 | _SerhaT_ | I ran my FTP server there as 21 didnt wanted to work @ school anymore.. :( |
| 06:52.51 | suzzi | tzafrir_laptop: if I route SSH via HTTP wouldnt that disable apache? |
| 06:53.03 | jbAU | trentbuck: lol :) good to hear |
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| 06:54.00 | trentbuck | jbAU: One more question: Is mdadm integrated in the current Sarge installer? |
| 06:54.10 | debiand00d | you can have grub in mbr and have it boot into one of two partitions. |
| 06:54.10 | jbAU | trentbuck: sure is |
| 06:54.20 | jbAU | trentbuck: but i'd recommend unstable |
| 06:54.32 | jbAU | trentbuck: err - i mean sarge |
| 06:54.48 | trentbuck | jbAU: Cool. Thanks for your time. |
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| 06:55.01 | grelli | is there a howto kicking about on how to make a pseudo package? |
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| 06:55.41 | jbAU | anyone know much on how to debug cyrus with gdb or strace? |
| 06:55.41 | jbAU | \ |
| 06:56.18 | tzafrir_laptop | jbAU, what's wrong with running it with 'strace -f' ? |
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| 06:56.39 | jbAU | tzafrir_laptop: well i'm trying that - and it looks scary |
| 06:56.44 | tzafrir_laptop | edit the init.d script if you can't find a simpler method |
| 06:56.58 | tzafrir_laptop | jbAU, grep to the rescue? |
| 06:57.26 | Witigonen | Hey all, I'm having a trouble with vsftpd... For some reason only one local user can log in, anyone have any ideas? |
| 06:57.30 | jbAU | tzafrir_laptop: i'm following the DEBIAN.debug cyrus howto thang and have recompiled cyrus with debugging support and changed the config's to dump logs... but it don't work! |
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| 06:58.44 | tzafrir_laptop | jbAU, there no such thing "doesn't work". What happens? What did you expect? in what way is it different? |
| 06:59.07 | tzafrir_laptop | anyway, I don't use Cyrus so I can't give anything better than generic help |
| 06:59.16 | jbAU | well in the cyrus log it says it excutes the logger, but it doesn't dump anything into the tmp director! |
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| 06:59.37 | jbAU | oh your joking |
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| 06:59.48 | jbAU | you are freaking kidding me... |
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| 07:00.20 | Osmar | hola Adrian |
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| 07:01.25 | jbAU | ok - i got the debugger working - some n00b had chmod'd /tmp to 755 .... |
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| 07:01.38 | jbAU | welcome apt! |
| 07:01.54 | jbAU | so now... i run the debugger and.... i get this: Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) |
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| 07:05.12 | jbAU | i guess this is bad to see? Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 07:05.32 | Rickyx | Yes, it is bad. |
| 07:05.33 | Overand | yeah, not usually a good sign |
| 07:05.53 | jbAU | dang - now if i can just figure out why it's doing it. |
| 07:06.30 | Rickyx | may be some library is missing. |
| 07:06.45 | Overand | is it a binary app you downloaded from non-debian sources? |
| 07:06.50 | jbAU | I'm looking at that now... seems like all the files are thre that it's calling |
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| 07:08.35 | jbAU | why would cyrus be looking for ld.so.nohwcap ? - access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 07:08.50 | Rickyx | do a ldd and see if all the libraries it's linked to are present. |
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| 07:09.49 | ^Trixy | I love you guys |
| 07:09.52 | ^Trixy | and I love debian |
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| 07:10.28 | nailbiter | jbAU: you can ignore it -- _every_ program linked against the C library will look for that. |
| 07:10.57 | jbAU | nailbiter: thanks for that info - i'm bashing my head against a wall |
| 07:11.32 | Rickyx | ^Trixy: Oh! Someone has started to love me finally :-) |
| 07:11.35 | nailbiter | jbAU: gdb will probably come in useful if you're trying to hunt down the cause of a segfault |
| 07:11.39 | ^Trixy | lol |
| 07:11.51 | ^Trixy | Rickyx: netbsd is killing me |
| 07:11.59 | ^Trixy | that shit is impossible to install |
| 07:12.05 | Rickyx | jbAU: is ldd reporting okay for the binary. |
| 07:12.10 | jbAU | nailbiter: mmm i c - i've got a gdb log of it, but i'm not sure |
| 07:12.17 | Rickyx | ^Trixy: then why install a shit ? |
| 07:12.31 | ^Trixy | the isos are corrupt, you need a registered nick to log into their chatroom, support is nonexistant, etc. etc. |
| 07:12.44 | ^Trixy | because linux won't run on my MobilePro :( |
| 07:12.58 | ^Trixy | the mips and mipsel kernels are unfinished |
| 07:13.08 | ^Trixy | from what I gather |
| 07:13.20 | nailbiter | jbAU: for example, to debug /bin/ls -- 'gdb /bin/ls'. do 'run' to start the program and then 'bt' to print a backtrace after gdb catches the segfault. |
| 07:13.39 | jbAU | Rickyx: yes thanks - i ran ldd and it seems all the librariese are there |
| 07:13.51 | jbAU | nailbiter: yep i got the gdb dump - not sure what to do with it tho |
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| 07:14.08 | jbAU | Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1". |
| 07:14.09 | jbAU | `system-supplied DSO at 0xffffe000' has disappeared; keeping its symbols. |
| 07:14.10 | jbAU | 0xb7d5e4b8 in select () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 |
| 07:14.30 | ^Trixy | ffs was coded by monkeys |
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| 07:15.25 | nailbiter | jbAU: which application are you debugging, by the way? |
| 07:15.39 | jbAU | nailbiter: lol - cyrus21 - imap |
| 07:16.30 | jbAU | simonrvn: how can i get some cyrus 2.2 loving ? |
| 07:16.37 | Rickyx | ^Trixy: Re-download the iso's are try again. Or use Debian which has a port of NetBSD. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ |
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| 07:16.46 | takatumi | "The gift that keeps on giving. 1922.260343 megabytes of storage (and counting) for every user." (gmail) |
| 07:16.51 | simonrvn | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/blog/ |
| 07:17.01 | nailbiter | jbAU: i'm not sure why it'd be bombing in a call to select(). :) i'd need to build a copy of cyrus with debugging symbols to go any further |
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| 07:17.17 | takatumi | so that counter is going to run on and on? |
| 07:17.29 | jbAU | nailbiter: yeah i had to rebuild mine - it's pretty easy tho |
| 07:18.17 | nailbiter | jbAU: if your cyrus binary has debugging symbols in it, the 'bt' backtrace should give you a line number |
| 07:19.16 | jbAU | nailbiter: is bt something i can install ? |
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| 07:19.57 | nailbiter | jbAU: it's a GDB command. :) you type 'bt' into gdb after your program has crashed, and it'll print the stack backtrace for you |
| 07:20.50 | jbAU | nailbiter: ah ok - i'm using the gdb dump with the imapd.conf debugger |
| 07:20.57 | jbAU | nailbiter: i got like ,25 symbols i think |
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| 07:22.04 | nailbiter | jbAU: can you code in C? :) if you're a non-programmer, the backtrace probably won't be of too much use to you |
| 07:22.33 | jbAU | nailbiter: nope - not a c coder.... although i do write a mean printf 'Hello World' ! |
| 07:22.43 | simonrvn | heh |
| 07:22.45 | ^Trixy | lol printf |
| 07:22.47 | ^Trixy | springf! |
| 07:22.51 | ^Trixy | sprint rather |
| 07:22.55 | jbAU | sprintf ! |
| 07:23.00 | ^Trixy | I loooove sprintf |
| 07:23.14 | ^Trixy | cout is okay too |
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| 07:23.19 | jbAU | so pretty much - i'm up the creek without a paddle |
| 07:23.23 | nailbiter | jbAU: ;-) in that case, i'm not too sure where you'd go from here |
| 07:23.44 | ^Trixy | jbAU: up the geek without a backtrace |
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| 07:24.18 | nailbiter | jbAU: when is cyrus segfaulting? when you start the main IMAP daemon? |
| 07:24.20 | jbAU | i don't get it - it working a week ago! |
| 07:24.27 | simonrvn | oh GAWDS |
| 07:24.39 | jbAU | nailbiter: yep - well it starts fine but as soon as I login successfully it instantly dies |
| 07:24.53 | nailbiter | jbAU: ok. did you upgrade libsasl2 some time in the last week? |
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| 07:24.58 | jbAU | same with using the cyradm tool |
| 07:25.02 | pw | !ops |
| 07:25.02 | dpkg | Please invoke '! ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 07:25.06 | jbAU | nailbiter: yes i think so |
| 07:25.12 | pw | !ops please kick insane, it's a spambot |
| 07:25.13 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please kick insane, it's a spambot |
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| 07:25.34 | ^Trixy | jbAU when in doubt, Windows fix it |
| 07:25.41 | ^Trixy | uninstall it and reinstall it |
| 07:25.50 | ^Trixy | (haha I should be kicked for that) |
| 07:25.51 | nailbiter | jbAU: also, are you on debian sid/unstable? did you also upgrade libc6 recently? |
| 07:26.05 | jbAU | ^Trixy: i've done that! dpkg --purge cyrus21-imap cyrus21-common and reinstalled - no dice! |
| 07:26.11 | ^Trixy | omg really? |
| 07:26.25 | ^Trixy | it should have updated package dependancies |
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| 07:26.31 | simonrvn | @kick ^Trixy |
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| 07:26.38 | jbAU | nailbiter: i'm running the latest version from my mirorr |
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| 07:26.41 | simonrvn | bah |
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| 07:27.02 | simonrvn | caphuso++ |
| 07:27.06 | jbAU | ^Trixy: yeah - i've uninstalled 4 times so far |
| 07:27.17 | ^Trixy | tried getting an updated binary from apt? |
| 07:27.28 | nailbiter | jbAU: ok. try -- 'mv /lib/tls /lib/tls.bak'. then try running 'cyradm' again and see if you still segfault |
| 07:27.29 | ^Trixy | or recompiling the latest snapshot? |
| 07:27.37 | simonrvn | jbAU: what's the version on cyrus21? |
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| 07:27.52 | simonrvn | (just curious) |
| 07:28.33 | jbAU | nailbiter: mmm - same problem |
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| 07:29.04 | jbAU | simonrvn: 2.1.18-1 |
| 07:29.07 | nailbiter | jbAU: i'm completely stumped now. :) i'd need to dive in with a copy of gdb and source code to go any further .. |
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| 07:29.31 | simonrvn | oh, 2.1.18. he updated it, ok |
| 07:29.49 | ^Trixy | backtrack to the last stable? |
| 07:30.08 | simonrvn | current upstream stable is 2.2.12 TMK ;) |
| 07:30.12 | jbAU | nailbiter: thanks man - i have no idea what i can do now |
| 07:30.29 | jbAU | simonrvn: do the cyradm stuff work in 2.2 debian? |
| 07:30.35 | simonrvn | sure |
| 07:30.59 | jbAU | simonrvn: mmmk - can i grab a copy of your simonraven.nuit.ca site? |
| 07:31.04 | simonrvn | well, mine isn't debian built, but it is a set of .debs |
| 07:31.15 | simonrvn | jbAU: excuse me? |
| 07:32.04 | jbAU | simonrvn: ahh ok, so i'll have to build it |
| 07:32.55 | simonrvn | oh, 'off', sure if your server is ppc ;) |
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| 07:33.25 | jbAU | simonrvn: yeah... unfortauntely it's not |
| 07:33.27 | simonrvn | (there's source+diff too) |
| 07:33.51 | brake | how to install gtk2.0+?? |
| 07:34.17 | ^Trixy | brake: how do I shot web? |
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| 07:34.22 | simonrvn | @tell brake -about search |
| 07:34.26 | jbAU | ok - well in the meantime i'll continue bashing my head at this 2.1 problem |
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| 07:35.07 | brake | i do not know! |
| 07:35.19 | simonrvn | read what the bot told you |
| 07:35.51 | ^Trixy | apt, how do I shot web? |
| 07:36.05 | simonrvn | "shot web"? |
| 07:36.09 | brake | apt-cache search gtk have a lot of result,i do not know which should to be chosen |
| 07:36.20 | simonrvn | brake: hint: libgtk |
| 07:36.31 | simonrvn | use grep |
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| 07:37.03 | brake | thanks have a try! |
| 07:37.06 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 07:37.30 | k3k0 | can i someway install this packets together |
| 07:37.32 | ysothoth | brake: Are you high? |
| 07:37.32 | brake | could not find package libgtk |
| 07:37.33 | k3k0 | xfce4-mixer xfce4-mixer-lib-oss |
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| 07:37.49 | k3k0 | im not using alsa |
| 07:38.04 | nailbiter | brake: is there a particular gtk2 application that you're after? or are you looking for gnome2? |
| 07:38.23 | gardio1 | hello. Does anone know how to make raw devices? |
| 07:38.56 | brake | i configure a software and it tell me that have no gtk2 |
| 07:39.18 | nailbiter | gardio1: raw block devices? raw character devices? what for? disks? |
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| 07:39.27 | nailbiter | brake: you're probably after libgtk2.0-dev |
| 07:39.31 | simonrvn | brake: you mean building something? |
| 07:39.35 | simonrvn | yes |
| 07:39.38 | caphuso | gardio1: raw(8) |
| 07:40.03 | gardio1 | nailbiter:for disks actually dvds. I'll check the main for raw |
| 07:40.14 | Witigonen | I'm getting a cp: cannot stat '/usr/share/doc/php4-common/examples/php.ini': no such file or directory whenever I try to do some apt-getting. php4-cli, php4-pear, and php4-pear-log are left unconfigured. Is this something common, what can I do? |
| 07:41.04 | nailbiter | gardio1: if you're on a 2.6.x kernel, you'll see it as one of the devices in /dev/cdroms/ |
| 07:41.06 | Witigonen | Eh, there were two php.inis in there, one paranoid, one recommended, I cped the recommended one to a php.ini and fixe dit. |
| 07:41.09 | brake | libgtk2.0-common |
| 07:42.31 | gardio1 | nailbiter: does it matter if the raw device doesn't exist in the /dev directory? ie I don't see any /dev/raw1 device. |
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| 07:43.19 | nailbiter | gardio1: the raw block device for DVD-ROMs will be /dev/hd{a,b,...} for IDE drives and /dev/sr{0,1,...} for SCSI ones |
| 07:43.31 | nailbiter | gardio1: /dev/raw is something else entirely |
| 07:43.40 | caphuso | nailbiter: those aren't raw devices |
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| 07:44.01 | nailbiter | caphuso: my mistake. :) |
| 07:44.13 | caphuso | nailbiter: raw devices bypass things like the kernel caches etc. |
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| 07:44.43 | MoRLoCh | Hello! I am trying to set up a local apt repository. I did the scanpackages and all seemed to go correctly, now I do apt-get update and I get a 404 error, it can't find the Packages file. If I copy&paste the same url from the error message in lynx from the same machine I get the file... what am I missing? |
| 07:45.44 | idealbsd | any known how to mount a mp3 device as usb flashdisk? |
| 07:45.44 | gardio1 | I can see /dev/hdc (my dvd drive) I can see /dev/rawctl but I don't see any /dev/raw1 device to connect to the /dev/hdc (my dvd drive) |
| 07:45.48 | k3k0 | how i can install this 2 package in debian coz i have some problems installing this xfce4-mixer xfce4-mixer-lib-oss |
| 07:45.54 | nailbiter | MoRLoCh: you need to add to /etc/apt/sources.list a file: URL to the directory holding your local packages |
| 07:46.02 | gardio1 | can I create the /dev/raw1 device? |
| 07:46.10 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: yes, I did that, and then did apt-get update |
| 07:46.10 | caphuso | gardio1: still with raw |
| 07:46.16 | nailbiter | gardio1: ah, ok. you need to use the /sbin/raw utility to do that |
| 07:46.18 | caphuso | gardio1: like i already told you |
| 07:46.23 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: bit it says error 404... |
| 07:46.27 | MoRLoCh | but |
| 07:46.44 | jonathan_ | I have used Linux off and on for a few years and I now like using it better than Windows. I am still a noob but I have chosen Debian mainly because of package management and because it is totally free. The problem (or an advantage) is that there are over 8,000 packages. I am looking at a lot of software to use for my desktop system and was wondering if there is a good repository of information somewhere that would make it easier |
| 07:46.44 | jonathan_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:46.54 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: I have my repository below /var/www/debian, and I use apache |
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| 07:47.36 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: the contents of sources.list are just: deb http://localhost stable/main Packages |
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| 07:48.17 | Witigonen | How do I set up a scp server? |
| 07:48.25 | simonrvn | install ssh |
| 07:48.26 | caphuso | Witigonen: apt-get install ssh |
| 07:48.30 | nailbiter | MoRLoCh: ok. so how's your repository structured? if it's just a flat directory containing a bunch of packages, you should just use './' instead of 'stable/main'. |
| 07:49.00 | Witigonen | Oh. Apparently I'm confused as to what scp actually is. I thought it was like ftp only more secure. |
| 07:49.12 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: it's like debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/ |
| 07:49.14 | simonrvn | it is not ftp |
| 07:49.21 | jbAU | Witigonen: think of it as an extension of ssh |
| 07:49.27 | caphuso | it's far from being ftp |
| 07:49.29 | Witigonen | Ahh.. Okay. |
| 07:49.38 | caphuso | it's like rcp, only better |
| 07:49.40 | nailbiter | Witigonen: there's no "scp server". the scp client simply logs with the regular ssh client, executes /usr/bin/scp remotely and then communicates with that to copy files |
| 07:49.47 | Witigonen | Somebody was leading me wrong, or maybe I just drew the wrong conclusions, sorry :) |
| 07:50.07 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: apt error message is like this: "Failed to fetch http://localhost/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found" |
| 07:50.36 | caphuso | Witigonen: sftp is like ftp, and also a ssh subsystem |
| 07:50.41 | nailbiter | MoRLoCh: hm. and that file is fetchable with a web browser from the same computer? |
| 07:50.45 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: but if I do "lynx go http://localhost/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages" I get the contents of the Packages file... |
| 07:50.49 | Witigonen | Should I do sftpd? |
| 07:50.52 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: yes |
| 07:50.54 | Witigonen | Er, sftp, sorry. |
| 07:50.57 | caphuso | Witigonen: no, ssh |
| 07:51.17 | Witigonen | caphuso: Okay, so I should use scp to transfer files. |
| 07:51.20 | nailbiter | MoRLoCh: that's funny. could it be that lynx is going through a proxy, whereas apt-get is not? (in that case, 'localhost' would refer to the proxy host, not your local system) |
| 07:51.40 | nailbiter | MoRLoCh: you can set the 'http_proxy' environment variable if you want apt-get to use a HTTP proxy |
| 07:52.09 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: ahh good idea... I have a transparent proxy on the gateway, but to access localhost there is no way to go through the gateway... |
| 07:52.39 | nailbiter | Witigonen: the sftp subsystem is enabled by default in the debian SSH package anyway |
| 07:52.42 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: and lynx doesn't know of the proxy anyways |
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| 07:53.33 | Witigonen | Awesome. Thanks everyone. |
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| 07:54.46 | gardio1 | when I type raw /dev/raw/raw1 /dev/hdc I get the error message |
| 07:54.52 | gardio1 | raw /dev/raw/raw1 /dev/hdc |
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| 07:54.58 | gardio1 | Cannot locate raw device '/dev/raw/raw1' (No such file or directory) |
| 07:55.54 | nailbiter | gardio1: cd /sbin; ./MAKEDEV raw |
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| 07:56.04 | caphuso | cd /dev! |
| 07:56.08 | nailbiter | eeek! |
| 07:56.16 | nailbiter | gardio1: sorry -- make that: cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV raw |
| 07:56.17 | caphuso | you don't want device files in /sbin :-) |
| 07:56.47 | caphuso | nailbiter: refilling the coffee pot is probably more effective |
| 07:57.41 | simonrvn | and drinking from said pot |
| 07:58.06 | simonrvn | not the same one ;) |
| 07:58.18 | Phated | Caffeine addicts. |
| 07:58.47 | nailbiter | Phated: hey, don't knock caffeine! i'm giving my bladder a workout |
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| 07:59.13 | Phated | HAHAHAH Go ahead, then. We'd love to watch when it gets overworked. |
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| 07:59.23 | caphuso | no, we don't |
| 07:59.40 | briareus | i liek to pee |
| 07:59.53 | Phated | Oh yes we would, watching abject embarrassment is always fun. |
| 08:00.30 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: I have checked the squid logs, lynx doesn't go through the proxy (and neither apt of course hehe) |
| 08:00.47 | briareus | especially when it involves waking from an opium stupor to find yourself naked in a gay bar wearing a white curly wig |
| 08:00.47 | simonrvn | set the env. vars. |
| 08:01.02 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 08:01.08 | jbAU | MoRLoCh: try and use wget to download it and see if u can see it |
| 08:01.11 | nailbiter | MoRLoCh: hm. :) are apt-get and lynx both hitting the same virtual host? perhaps the apache logs might say so |
| 08:01.36 | MoRLoCh | nailbiter: yes, "localhost" |
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| 08:01.57 | MoRLoCh | jbAU: I tried with lynx, does it make a difference? |
| 08:02.43 | MoRLoCh | jbAU: anyway tried with wget (you never know hehe) and it worked |
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| 08:03.28 | jbAU | MoRLoCh: heh - so you cant see it in the logs tho |
| 08:04.20 | MoRLoCh | ok, in the apache logs |
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| 08:04.28 | MoRLoCh | I see both apt-get and wget |
| 08:04.45 | jbAU | does apt-get have an error in the log? |
| 08:04.59 | MoRLoCh | yes, 404 |
| 08:05.15 | jbAU | it musn't be accessing the same thing as wget |
| 08:05.16 | MoRLoCh | ahh but apt-get is looking for Release |
| 08:05.31 | MoRLoCh | the error message states Packages tho |
| 08:05.33 | MoRLoCh | hmm |
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| 08:05.54 | MoRLoCh | in facts, Release isn't there hehe |
| 08:06.01 | jbAU | :) |
| 08:06.10 | jbAU | if only cyrus was that easy... |
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| 08:07.59 | boukensya | how do I tell what resolution I am using? |
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| 08:08.18 | MoRLoCh | ok, fixed :9 thanks for help jbAU and nailbiter |
| 08:08.30 | caphuso | boukensya: xdpyinfo |
| 08:08.41 | MoRLoCh | basically it says it can't access Packages while ity meant Release |
| 08:08.48 | dli | any good program to open .rtf? I suspect that OOo doesn't show it correctly |
| 08:09.00 | caphuso | dli: why not? |
| 08:09.08 | jbAU | dli: openoffice is good for rtf |
| 08:09.08 | Phoeni_x | how do i break the boot process |
| 08:09.33 | boukensya | caphuso I don't have that command? |
| 08:09.33 | rob^ | ? |
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| 08:10.08 | nailbiter | Phoeni_x: well, you can boot into single user mode. |
| 08:10.09 | dli | caphuso, I'm trying latex2rtf, want to double check |
| 08:10.25 | nailbiter | dli: are you converting to or away from RTF? |
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| 08:10.42 | dli | caphuso, nailbiter: all inline math becomes blank after latex2rtf |
| 08:10.44 | caphuso | dli: if OO.org doesn't show such a RTF properly, it's most likely the fault of latex2rtf |
| 08:11.22 | caphuso | in fact, i seriously doubt that you can do proper math in RTF at all |
| 08:11.26 | nailbiter | dli: erk. i'm not even sure if RTF even does inline math |
| 08:11.34 | Phoeni_x | nalbiter : there is a way where i can break the boot up and go straight to a prompt do you know it |
| 08:11.52 | dli | nailbiter, for sure, like super/subscript |
| 08:11.53 | ahmad | guys.. any idea when the next snapshot of sarge ISO images are going to be released?? the latest I found is 23 Mar. looking for a newer release |
| 08:12.01 | ahmad | guys.. any idea when the next snapshot of sarge ISO images are going to be released?? the latest I found is 23 Mar. looking for a newer release |
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| 08:12.25 | helix | ahmad: that's pretty recent |
| 08:12.28 | nailbiter | Phoeni_x: yes. pass 'init=/bin/bash' to the kernel at boot time |
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| 08:13.10 | simonrvn | ffs |
| 08:13.25 | gardio1 | Thank you for the help with the raw devices. |
| 08:13.35 | nailbiter | dli: that's not inline math. :) by that, people usually mean stuff like integral signs, block fractions and other stuff that would normally go into Word's Equation Editor |
| 08:13.45 | helix | ahmad: but there are daily cd images here: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/ |
| 08:13.47 | gemma | why my fstab mount a partition with less hd space? |
| 08:14.01 | helix | ahmad: and other stuff here: http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status |
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| 08:14.17 | drzed | hy there! |
| 08:14.26 | dli | nailbiter, latex2rtf has the choice of rtf or bitmap |
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| 08:15.15 | dli | nailbiter, trying latex2html now |
| 08:15.25 | elarifr | hello everybody. ... can i get some help with ftp serv problems ? |
| 08:15.32 | drzed | just a little question: am i to stupid or is there really no support for ssl/tls in slapd (ldap-server)? |
| 08:15.37 | simonrvn | just ask |
| 08:15.48 | simonrvn | drzed: what version, what debian? |
| 08:16.04 | drzed | sarge / testing |
| 08:16.47 | simonrvn | yes it does support tls/ssl. just layer 8 problem ;) |
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| 08:16.59 | elarifr | debian sarge - i have tried wu-ftp and removed it - installed proftpd and webmin-proftpd but when tryin to long in i have in syslog such message Apr 2 10:47:48 localhost wu-ftpd[2797]: error: cannot execute /usr/sbin/wu-ftpd: No such file or directory |
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| 08:17.35 | simonrvn | kill the wu-ftpd process... |
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| 08:17.42 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: might wu-ftpd be still running? |
| 08:17.44 | Phoeni_x | nailbiter: how do i get a prompt to do that |
| 08:17.53 | drzed | simonrvn: mysql should also have support for ssl but the package-maintainer removed it |
| 08:18.13 | nailbiter | Phoeni_x: if LILO is your bootloader, turn on caps lock at boot time (holding down ctrl also works) |
| 08:18.16 | elarifr | and trying tu run proftpd give me localhost.localdomain - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket |
| 08:18.24 | drzed | bTLS: could not use key file `/etc/ldap/certs/ldap_key.pem'. <-- this is there error message i get |
| 08:18.42 | simonrvn | drzed: check the file's perms and ownership |
| 08:18.46 | nailbiter | elarifr: did you run wu-ftpd from inetd, or as a stand-alone daemon? |
| 08:18.52 | drzed | elarifr: why using ftp if there is sftp ... much easier tu setup and mor securte |
| 08:19.03 | dli | elarifr, fuser 21/tcp |
| 08:19.05 | simonrvn | same goes for the dir it "lives" in |
| 08:19.06 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: that might be because the socket is taken by wu-ftpd |
| 08:19.09 | elarifr | morloch, yes seem to keep reference to wu-ftpd, was running as daemon |
| 08:19.13 | simonrvn | sheesh. such simple things |
| 08:19.18 | nailbiter | elarifr: if you were running it from inetd, check that it's been removed from inet.conf |
| 08:19.54 | drzed | simonrvn: i tried everything from 0400 to 0777 but it does not work, and no i did not misspell the filename |
| 08:20.01 | dli | drzed, sftp doesn't support mget ? |
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| 08:20.41 | drzed | dli: of course! you can copy '/' recursivly ... |
| 08:21.13 | elarifr | thanks i didnt checked the good place |
| 08:21.26 | dli | drzed, you mean scp? not sftp? |
| 08:21.33 | takatumi | scp -r |
| 08:21.33 | elarifr | must i remove the full line ftpstreamtcpnowaitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/wu-ftpd -l |
| 08:21.36 | nailbiter | drzed: did you remember to actually generate that /etc/ldap/certs/ldap_key.pem certificate? :) you can make a self-signed one if you don't have an authority to grant you one |
| 08:21.41 | ahmad | helix: I know it is recent, but there have been couple packages that were added to sarge since then and they don't appear in the 23 Mar. release. |
| 08:21.41 | Phoeni_x | if i want chack the drives installed does anyone know the command |
| 08:21.47 | nailbiter | elarifr: yes, of course. don't forget to send inetd a SIGHUP to make it reload inetd.conf |
| 08:21.53 | nailbiter | Phoeni_x: cat /proc/partitions |
| 08:22.01 | ahmad | helix: the other two links are for debian-installer alone, not a whole installation set |
| 08:22.03 | helix | ahmad: they may not be in testing yet |
| 08:22.16 | helix | ahmad: I don't understand. you know about apt-get, right? |
| 08:22.19 | dli | takatumi, scp is a replacement for rcp, not ftp |
| 08:22.22 | ahmad | helix: they are. I have them installed on my machine |
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| 08:22.44 | ahmad | i need the images for a disconnected machine |
| 08:22.45 | drzed | nevyn: i set up my own CA, the signed cetificates work so far fine for https and imaps |
| 08:22.46 | takatumi | dli: scp is sufficient for me. |
| 08:22.51 | helix | ahmad: oh, I see |
| 08:22.52 | ahmad | helix: i need the images for a disconnected machine |
| 08:23.02 | drzed | oops i meant nailbiter |
| 08:23.09 | helix | yes, you just said that |
| 08:23.10 | elarifr | nailbiter, how to send SIGHUP ? only few days i try linux.... |
| 08:23.15 | nailbiter | elarifr: pkill -1 inetd |
| 08:23.25 | nailbiter | elarifr: '/etc/init.d/inetd reload' also works. |
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| 08:23.39 | MoRLoCh | invoke-rc.d inetd reload ? |
| 08:23.46 | ahmad | helix: the whole set is supposed to be re-released weakly, but it's been a bit more than a week since the last release |
| 08:23.55 | nailbiter | drzed: ok, so ldap_key.pem is your combined certificate and key file? or did you generate separate files? |
| 08:23.57 | neiljp | has anyone set up a 32-bit chroot on amd64? the instructions on alioth don't appear to work out of the box, since there is no sources.list for apt to use...but base-config -> configure apt fails :( |
| 08:24.03 | helix | ahmad: released weakly...? |
| 08:24.22 | helix | or weekly? |
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| 08:24.42 | takatumi | neiljp: try #debian-amd64 |
| 08:24.53 | neiljp | takatumi: cheers |
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| 08:25.13 | drzed | nailbiter: i did genarate a key and a certificat in seperate files, the key file is unecrypted |
| 08:25.21 | ahmad | helix: maybe it is not called "release", but ya, this is sarge (testing). |
| 08:25.36 | helix | ahmad: these are just beta testing images. "release candidates" |
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| 08:25.48 | nailbiter | drzed: if slapd is running as non-root, does it have permissions to read both files? |
| 08:25.50 | helix | and they don't release the release candidates weekly, though they do offer daily builds |
| 08:26.56 | ahmad | helix: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/jigdo-area/i386/ |
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| 08:27.55 | rob^ | !java |
| 08:27.55 | dpkg | a platform independent OO language. Server-side Java is extremely powerful due to the threads capabilities and the huge number of APIs available. On the other hand, Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java> and <sid mozilla java> (for starters). write once, run nowhere, or write once, run away |
| 08:28.02 | helix | ahmad: oh, I see |
| 08:28.12 | rob^ | !install java |
| 08:28.12 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? If you're in sarge or sid, ask me about <java-package>. If you're in woody, grab java-package manually from http://packages.debian.org/java-package and then ask me about <java-package> for instructions on how to use it. |
| 08:28.33 | rob^ | !java-package |
| 08:28.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, java-package is the new name for mpkg-j2se... err, I mean j2se-package... DAMN IT, CAN'T THEY PICK A NAME?! Anyway, it lets you build a .deb file from Sun's non-free upstream Java distributions. See "man make-jpkg". Cf. "make-kpkg" (from kernel-package).only in sarge and sid currently, but it's a -all package, so it's safe to use it in woody. This packages lives in 'contrib', so make sure you have that in ... |
| 08:29.04 | chealer | !msg the bot |
| 08:29.05 | dpkg | talk to the bot in msg or our trained attack dogs will bite your genitalia off |
| 08:29.13 | rob^ | heh |
| 08:29.26 | rob^ | cool, I'll remember that |
| 08:29.41 | helix | ahmad: well, in any case, I guess the new ones will be out soon since they are built weekly |
| 08:29.47 | chealer | rob^: most importantly, the genitalia part |
| 08:30.09 | ahmad | helix: hope so |
| 08:30.28 | helix | ahmad: and my confusion was that the netinst and business card images are built daily -- sorry about that |
| 08:31.07 | chealer | what's the difference between those two? |
| 08:31.14 | ahmad | helix: np |
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| 08:34.15 | drzed | nailbiter: slapd ist runnig as root |
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| 08:34.59 | kendterm | Hrm, dpkg (the bot here) doesn't seem to know... |
| 08:35.03 | drzed | nailbiter: but i did find something intressing (quite late) in README.Debian: the remove the openssl for "licencing reasons" |
| 08:35.07 | kendterm | Anyone happen to know when KDE 3.4 will hit Testing? |
| 08:35.20 | chealer | kendterm: it will hit sid after sarge |
| 08:35.30 | kendterm | hehe |
| 08:35.31 | chealer | ask #debian-kde for more info |
| 08:35.33 | drzed | kendterm: it isnt even in unnstable |
| 08:35.37 | kendterm | don't you have that backwards? :) |
| 08:35.40 | chealer | eh sorry |
| 08:35.42 | kendterm | drzed - really? wow |
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| 08:35.44 | chealer | after sarge is stable |
| 08:35.51 | kendterm | ooooooooooh |
| 08:35.56 | kendterm | really? wow! damn! |
| 08:36.01 | drzed | kendterm: but you can grab it from alioth.debian.org |
| 08:36.04 | kendterm | sux0r |
| 08:36.08 | kendterm | drzed - thanks! :) |
| 08:36.29 | kendterm | shit, i need to go upgrade my dad's box at some point. |
| 08:36.31 | drzed | what really sucks is that some major software packages lack ssl support |
| 08:36.34 | kendterm | he's still using 3.2 or therebouts |
| 08:36.48 | drzed | e.g.: squid, slapd, mysql |
| 08:37.14 | drzed | sometimes i think debian cares too much obout politics |
| 08:37.17 | JJK | Does anyone know if Debian will use the libraries of x.org ever? |
| 08:37.18 | kendterm | drzed - where on alioth.debian.org? |
| 08:37.22 | elarifr | nailbiter, i have removed the line from inetd.conf reboot but still have same error for proftpd |
| 08:37.26 | drzed | kendterm: mom |
| 08:37.33 | kendterm | ah, here, maybe? http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-kde/ |
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| 08:37.38 | elarifr | nailbiter, then removed / reinstall proftpd and it give : ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. |
| 08:37.41 | drzed | deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ ./ |
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| 08:38.04 | kendterm | thanks a bunch! :) |
| 08:38.29 | chealer | kendterm: your dad might prefer the testing 3.3.2 than expimental 3.4.0 |
| 08:38.47 | chealer | unofficially experimental, even |
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| 08:38.55 | kendterm | yeah |
| 08:39.06 | kendterm | he only uses konq and kmail, so far as i know |
| 08:39.16 | drzed | afaict 3.4 rulez :) |
| 08:39.18 | kendterm | he's pretty unsophisticated :) |
| 08:39.31 | kendterm | (he's also coming up on 70yo... goddamn!) |
| 08:39.40 | kendterm | (i'm not even quite 30!) |
| 08:40.09 | kendterm | so... should i bite the bullet and try upgrading to 3.4.0 myself? :) |
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| 08:40.35 | chealer | kendterm: if you do, /j #debian-kde for complaints |
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| 08:40.39 | nailbiter | elarifr: ok, first check that no one else is bound to port 21 |
| 08:40.53 | kendterm | chealer - thanks :) |
| 08:40.57 | nailbiter | elarifr: 'fuser -v 21/tcp' might be helpful here |
| 08:41.08 | kendterm | i should just add that to my konversation autojoin |
| 08:41.17 | Liquid_Byt3 | im having a problem, i have compiled my kernel 2.6.10, without unload modules suport ( i forgot) n know i have recompiled the kernel with support , but when i want o unload a modules, a message says to me that i have no unload module support,, i need a help |
| 08:41.33 | elarifr | nailbiter, ok then |
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| 08:42.08 | nailbiter | Liquid_Byt3: it's CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD and CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD |
| 08:42.19 | Liquid_Byt3 | hm let me see ,, just a minute |
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| 08:42.45 | drzed | one could wonder why apache still has ssl supoort ... |
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| 08:43.19 | Liquid_Byt3 | nailbiter: no, just module_unload was built |
| 08:43.41 | Liquid_Byt3 | i have not marked force_unload |
| 08:43.46 | nailbiter | Liquid_Byt3: well, that alone should let you unload modules which aren't in use. force-unloading modules is a different matter |
| 08:44.03 | nailbiter | Liquid_Byt3: put simply, you can't force unload any module -- it may not be possible, or may blow up your kernel |
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| 08:44.38 | Liquid_Byt3 | nailbiter: i understand, but t problem is the systems say to me,, i have no unload support |
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| 08:44.58 | Liquid_Byt3 | Zion:/home/leo# rmmod sg |
| 08:44.59 | Liquid_Byt3 | FATAL: Kernel does not have unload support. |
| 08:45.15 | nailbiter | Liquid_Byt3: that's odd -- are you really booted into the kernel you just built? |
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| 08:45.57 | Liquid_Byt3 | yes.. because i erased the old system.map vmlinuz n initrd.img |
| 08:46.09 | Liquid_Byt3 | n then recompiled it again |
| 08:47.06 | nailbiter | Liquid_Byt3: well, if you've built CONFIG_IKCONFIG, you can actually see what's compiled into your running kernel by looking in /proc/config.gz |
| 08:47.16 | nailbiter | Liquid_Byt3: you might want to double-check there first |
| 08:47.32 | Liquid_Byt3 | nailbiter: i ll check this |
| 08:47.48 | Chameleon22 | can someone suggest a nice dvd ripper (with GUI) |
| 08:47.55 | Liquid_Byt3 | nailbiter: i dont have this file |
| 08:48.09 | nailbiter | Chameleon22: there's a nice GTK one in the 'dvdrip' package |
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| 08:48.35 | Chameleon22 | nailbiter: k thanks |
| 08:48.36 | nailbiter | Liquid_Byt3: hm. did you re-run LILO after you copied your new kernel into place? |
| 08:48.43 | Liquid_Byt3 | oo yeah |
| 08:49.09 | Liquid_Byt3 | nailbiter: this is the 3 time i recompile this kernel |
| 08:49.18 | Liquid_Byt3 | n nots about unload module |
| 08:49.21 | nailbiter | Liquid_Byt3: ok. which 'rmmod' are you using? the old one from 'modutils' or the new one from 'module-init-tools'? |
| 08:49.32 | Liquid_Byt3 | hm let me se |
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| 08:52.53 | elarifr | nailbiter what must i check after fuser -v 21/tcp |
| 08:52.56 | Liquid_Byt3 | nailbiter: im using the new one from module-init-tools |
| 08:53.02 | JJK | Does anyone know if Debian will use the libraries of x.org ever? |
| 08:53.34 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: check that there is no one else than proftpd listening to that port |
| 08:54.10 | elarifr | morloch how must i check it ? i'm really new to linux |
| 08:54.42 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: the output of that command will tell you what process is listening to that port... if there is only proftp, it means it's working |
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| 08:55.04 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: otherwise if there is something else, that's a hint on how to fix your problem |
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| 08:55.26 | elarifr | morloch, there is nothing on output |
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| 08:55.52 | Liquid_Byt3 | nailbiter: i made some alterations here,, i ll reboot n then i tell u whats happened,, tks 4 t help |
| 08:56.12 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: then the problem comes from the conf of the proftpd I guess |
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| 08:57.08 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: I don't know much to help you further, I'd try to reconfigure the package |
| 08:57.20 | trogger | I have read the cp man pages. Please confirm for me that if I copy a lot of files with -dp, clear the source disk and then recopy them back later, nothing will have changed? |
| 08:57.25 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: with dpkg-reconfigure proftpd |
| 08:57.52 | elarifr | i have removed it and reinsatlled twice... can i delete the etc/proftpf.conf and try reinstall it with apt-get ? |
| 08:58.34 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: reinstalling won't overwrite the conf. I guess you should purge it |
| 08:59.26 | elarifr | morloch, dpkg give me the same error : ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. |
| 08:59.38 | dli | elarifr, in a debian way, "dpkg --purge proftpd" |
| 09:00.04 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: apt-get --purge remove proftpd |
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| 09:01.33 | dli | elarifr, or what MoRLoCh said |
| 09:02.52 | elarifr | morloch, aprox answer is var/run/proftpd not empty proftptd has not been deleted |
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| 09:03.26 | elarifr | morloch must i manually delete var/run/proftpd and etc/proftpd.conf ? |
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| 09:03.55 | dli | elarifr, not a big deal, now, "apt-get install proftpd" |
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| 09:04.02 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: no, apt should handle that |
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| 09:09.27 | spaceship | anyone knows of a browser whose download manager supports resuming |
| 09:10.27 | MoRLoCh | don't they all do? |
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| 09:10.41 | MoRLoCh | like firefox |
| 09:10.42 | spaceship | no |
| 09:10.45 | elarifr | morloch, thanks it started ok and replaced conf. it seems there was an old 1.2.8 conf file that was not supported by 1.2.10. |
| 09:10.48 | spaceship | firefox doesn't |
| 09:11.02 | spaceship | MoRLoCh, like if you pause the download and reboot your OS .. then you can't resume it |
| 09:11.14 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: hehe well, I didn't really know that was the way to fix it, just luck :) |
| 09:11.32 | MoRLoCh | spaceship: well, I use opera and seldomly FF |
| 09:11.57 | MoRLoCh | spaceship: so opera does that for sure, but Opera isn't available in official debian repositories |
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| 09:12.00 | jetair | Why most icons are small 'x' in evolution? |
| 09:12.15 | wobbler | konqueror with kget supports pausing and resumming |
| 09:12.21 | spaceship | MoRLoCh, what's your current ver of opera |
| 09:12.25 | jetair | i mean menu icons |
| 09:12.33 | elarifr | morloch, it seems the purge was the good way. thanks |
| 09:12.38 | MoRLoCh | spaceship: 7.54u2 |
| 09:12.58 | MoRLoCh | elarifr: you're welcome, I was just lucky |
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| 09:14.14 | ruzbeh | I have this error with XFree, I search with google, people have had this problem but I still couldn't find a solution: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o": No symbols found |
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| 09:18.31 | k3k0 | where is in debian grub conf file to change splash image |
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| 09:20.02 | yebian | why does grub write so deep? |
| 09:20.31 | k3k0 | yebian: ?? |
| 09:21.11 | yebian | It seems to write past the standard mbr |
| 09:21.21 | yebian | bigger mbr |
| 09:21.40 | k3k0 | i need to change splash image |
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| 09:23.27 | Liquid_Byt3 | nailbiter: hey man,, now everythig is ok |
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| 09:27.06 | arturaz_ | # - cpu - max CPU time (MIN) |
| 09:27.06 | arturaz_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.21 | ^Trixy | haha what fun |
| 09:27.30 | ^Trixy | installing debian to an x86 emulator |
| 09:27.47 | ^Trixy | I am a dork |
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| 09:32.29 | yebian | How do I unmount root to fsck it? |
| 09:32.42 | drac | yebian: shutdown -Fr now |
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| 09:33.14 | yebian | drac: what does that do? |
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| 09:33.27 | yebian | besides reboot? |
| 09:33.33 | ^Trixy | lol you want to MOUNT the things you fsck |
| 09:33.37 | drac | yebian: shutdown --help |
| 09:33.37 | ^Trixy | usually |
| 09:33.45 | drac | ^Trixy: are you on crack? |
| 09:33.46 | yebian | Oh cool |
| 09:33.48 | ^Trixy | at least, from behind |
| 09:33.56 | yebian | nice thanks drac |
| 09:34.00 | ^Trixy | or missionary |
| 09:34.10 | ^Trixy | you can do some unmounted fscking from the side I hear |
| 09:34.31 | yebian | UNIX is sexy |
| 09:34.39 | yebian | I have that T-shirt |
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| 09:35.06 | yebian | proper English is to have UNIX all caps like GOD |
| 09:35.07 | trentbuck | I am setting up a RAID1 array inside the Sarge bbc netinst. |
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| 09:35.47 | trentbuck | Does anyone know if it will blast the reiserfs already on the first partition in the array? |
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| 09:35.52 | yebian | But not Linux because Gnu's Not UNIX |
| 09:36.04 | ix | it's just a result of the fact they could'nt write in lower caps |
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| 09:36.22 | yebian | same difference |
| 09:36.27 | sobersabre | hi guys. |
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| 09:36.52 | yebian | I don't think lowercase letters existed in 1969 |
| 09:37.00 | sobersabre | how do i upgrade a .deb package that is not in a repository. i install it : dpkg -i file.deb... |
| 09:37.09 | sobersabre | ? |
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| 09:37.24 | trentbuck | sobersabre: you need to download the newer version |
| 09:37.30 | sobersabre | i have it. |
| 09:37.39 | resiak | Then install it. |
| 09:37.41 | sobersabre | i need the syntax of dpkg or dpkg-deb |
| 09:37.44 | trentbuck | sobersabre: oh, well then just dpkg -i the new package. |
| 09:37.49 | resiak | sobersabre: man dpkg |
| 09:37.58 | sobersabre | ah... it actually removes the older one ? |
| 09:37.59 | sobersabre | :) |
| 09:38.03 | resiak | Yes. |
| 09:38.04 | sobersabre | how could i doubt it! |
| 09:38.11 | trentbuck | sobersabre: as long as they are the same package name |
| 09:38.14 | sobersabre | it's debian. |
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| 09:40.13 | shlomi | Hi all! |
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| 09:40.34 | shlomi | What's the run-level for console login without X automatically getting started? |
| 09:40.42 | shlomi | It's not written anywhere in inittab. |
| 09:40.43 | arturaz_ | there is none |
| 09:40.55 | ^Trixy | damn openoffice is huge |
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| 09:41.06 | ^Trixy | huger than xbox |
| 09:41.08 | trentbuck | shlomi: run rcconf and deselect xdm/gdm/kdm. |
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| 09:41.27 | k0nli3d | hi, what do I need to install in order to run java programs on debian? I see java-common but I am not sure |
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| 09:41.58 | trentbuck | k0nli3d: best bet is to add the blackdown.org repository to sources.list |
| 09:42.19 | trentbuck | k0nli3d: Debian does not package Sun java for legal reasons. |
| 09:42.28 | yebian | Ok heres the deal. I installed Windows XP after debian thus was not able to boot debian. I booted from a live cd mounted the ext3 partition and chroot to my mount replaced mbr with grub and lost WinXP. I then repaired WinXP boot with fixboot, and lost debian. So I re-repaired mbr with lilo and was still able to boot windows but was unable to load / after the kernel. |
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| 09:42.42 | k0nli3d | I see, thankyou! |
| 09:42.53 | trentbuck | k0nli3d: Alternately, install GCJ et al. |
| 09:42.54 | yebian | what the hell do I do now. |
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| 09:43.05 | nagesh | how can i run vnc |
| 09:43.13 | shlomi | What's the runlevel in which X is not started automatically (similar to 3 on RH/Mandrake)? |
| 09:43.30 | trentbuck | shlomi: Debian does not use runlevels that way. |
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| 09:43.45 | shlomi | trentbuck: I see. |
| 09:43.48 | MoRLoCh | yebian: you could add XP to grub conf |
| 09:43.49 | trentbuck | shlomi: you need to remove the xdm symlink from rc5.d |
| 09:44.02 | yebian | MoRLoCh: its there. |
| 09:44.03 | trentbuck | shlomi: the easiest way to do that is to run rcconf. |
| 09:44.05 | MoRLoCh | yebian: but I use lilo, so I don't know grub that much |
| 09:44.08 | itp560 | I'm confused what to install to develop some mysql C applicatins .??? |
| 09:44.21 | chealer | trentbuck: rc5.d :? |
| 09:44.43 | trentbuck | chealer: /etc/rc5.d/S70xdm or something. |
| 09:44.51 | nagesh | annoia, how can i execute the vnc |
| 09:45.07 | itp560 | what is the pkg I should install to get the the mysql.h files and mysqlclient libraries ??? |
| 09:45.25 | MoRLoCh | yebian: you have grub configured to boot either debian or XP ? |
| 09:45.25 | yebian | MoRLoCh: I usually do too, but it violently attacks the NTFS file system. Lilo on the other hand isn't as effective a booting tool as Grub for Linux. |
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| 09:45.48 | war- | I run Debian Sarge and after a recent apt-get update all my font's changed (to smaller ones, AA/gnome stuff) - I use KDE, how do I change the gnome fonts? |
| 09:45.50 | chealer | trentbuck: but why 5? |
| 09:46.10 | trentbuck | chealer: the default runlevel under debian is 5. |
| 09:46.12 | sobersabre | yebian, i remember you were messing with xorg setups... are you still ? |
| 09:46.16 | yebian | MoRLoCh: I do that and it used to work to but as windows does get worthless after a time I had to reinstall it not it doesn't work. |
| 09:46.20 | trentbuck | chealer: but as I say, using the rcconf tool is cleaner |
| 09:46.23 | chealer | trentbuck: really? I'm under 2 |
| 09:46.32 | trentbuck | chealer: ICBW |
| 09:46.54 | timo | itp560, libmysqlclient-dev |
| 09:46.55 | MoRLoCh | yebian: ahh I understand. Seems a grub related problem then |
| 09:47.57 | yebian | MoRLoCh: and as I said I used Lilo to try to remedy it and XP booted fine but it for some reason made the Kernel panic and not be able to mount root. |
| 09:48.31 | MoRLoCh | yebian: do you use initrd based kernel? |
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| 09:48.49 | yebian | Yes as packaged by debian maintainers. |
| 09:49.16 | MoRLoCh | yebian: in your lilo.conf, do you have a reference to the initrd.img ? |
| 09:49.18 | nagesh | i installed vnc for on debian |
| 09:49.23 | yebian | yes |
| 09:49.32 | drac | war-: 'apt-cache search xfonts | grep trans', installing those might fix your GTK fonts. |
| 09:49.32 | sobersabre | yebian, what kind of kernel panic was that ? cannot mount root ? |
| 09:49.55 | joniroot | Raid help. I have installed Raid system . I did partitions in /dev/sda but i did not in /dev/sdb. Sistem is instaled bu i can not set up grub for booting from both hdd |
| 09:49.59 | yebian | something 36,5 |
| 09:50.05 | nagesh | but i am not able to open the display of vnc4connect |
| 09:50.11 | nagesh | or any other |
| 09:50.14 | yebian | bad superblock |
| 09:50.23 | MoRLoCh | yebian: 36,5? what is your root device? |
| 09:50.24 | k0nli3d | I am running unstable. Would that be considered sarge or sid? |
| 09:50.29 | sobersabre | nagesh, u need on the "server" side to run vnc4server |
| 09:50.43 | chealer | k0nli3d: sid. reinstall sarge, BTW |
| 09:50.47 | trentbuck | k0nli3d: unstable==sid, testing==sarge |
| 09:50.52 | yebian | MoRLoCh: heres the fun part my mbr is on hd 0 and root is on hd 1 |
| 09:50.53 | sobersabre | then on the "client" side run a vncviewer and in the address write IP:display |
| 09:50.58 | chealer | !tell k0nli3d about releases |
| 09:51.24 | itp560 | timo, that it whould be libmysqlclient12-dev .. |
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| 09:51.37 | ^Trixy | hey cool |
| 09:51.39 | itp560 | timo, that for the clue .. |
| 09:51.42 | sobersabre | nagesh, did you get ? |
| 09:51.47 | ^Trixy | window trouble, scuse me |
| 09:51.48 | nagesh | sobersabre, see i installed vnc4server on debian |
| 09:51.52 | itp560 | timo, *thank |
| 09:52.04 | nagesh | i have vnc4viewer on xp |
| 09:52.06 | yebian | Im booted into debian now, but cant boot windows. |
| 09:52.16 | sobersabre | nagesh. see my messages. install what is missing. |
| 09:52.30 | MoRLoCh | yebian: how did you boot into debian? from a floppy or so? |
| 09:52.30 | yebian | You see I re-installed grub after Lilo wouldnt work. |
| 09:52.56 | nagesh | sobersabre, i have installed vnc4server |
| 09:53.00 | yebian | MoRLoCh: answer precedes question. |
| 09:53.14 | MoRLoCh | hehe |
| 09:53.21 | chealer | !tell trentbuck about msg |
| 09:53.41 | yebian | I've got quite the mystery here. |
| 09:53.47 | MoRLoCh | yebian: sorry I am confused |
| 09:53.50 | k3k0 | whoi timo |
| 09:53.56 | timo | itp560, you're welcome |
| 09:53.57 | sobersabre | yebian, since many people work with more than 1 disk, your setup is not exotic. since many people use it, it works with both: lilo or grub. so ... decide what you want to use: lilo or grub and tune its config properly. |
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| 09:54.17 | MoRLoCh | yebian: you can boot debian from grub, right? |
| 09:54.18 | sobersabre | what do you want: lilo or grub ? |
| 09:54.24 | yebian | sobersabre: they both work |
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| 09:54.31 | nagesh | sobersabre, please tell me how can i do |
| 09:54.31 | yebian | I can boot debian from grub. |
| 09:54.40 | yebian | I can't boot windows |
| 09:54.42 | sobersabre | what is written in the windows entry ? |
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| 09:54.48 | MoRLoCh | yebian: so just add XP to grub conf |
| 09:54.50 | rixth | How can I unrar rar files now that the unrar tool has been obsoleted? |
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| 09:54.58 | MoRLoCh | yebian: I can't help you there, I don't know grub |
| 09:55.00 | sobersabre | u can paste to my query ? |
| 09:55.01 | k3k0 | yebian: google |
| 09:55.14 | trentbuck | rixth: the unrar or rar package, surely? |
| 09:55.19 | war- | drac: k |
| 09:55.24 | sobersabre | rixth, yes... if you use unrar utility.... |
| 09:55.27 | yebian | title Windows NT/2000/XP |
| 09:55.31 | k3k0 | yebian: im sure there in information for you |
| 09:55.33 | yebian | root (hd0,1) |
| 09:55.37 | yebian | savedefault |
| 09:55.40 | yebian | makeactive |
| 09:55.44 | yebian | chainloader +1 |
| 09:55.58 | sobersabre | that's it ? |
| 09:56.07 | yebian | sobersabre: yes |
| 09:56.13 | war- | drac: trying them now |
| 09:56.29 | sobersabre | and what is the partition ( /dev/hdXN ) that windows is sitting on ? |
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| 09:56.58 | yebian | sobresaber: when I try to boot it gives a bad superblock error. I cant even mount it from debian. |
| 09:57.02 | sobersabre | yebian, i am asking _you_ |
| 09:57.10 | war- | drac, nope, do I have to reboot / restart X or something? |
| 09:57.16 | sobersabre | what is the partition it is on ? |
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| 09:57.21 | drac | war-: yes, restart X |
| 09:57.25 | war- | ok brb |
| 09:57.28 | ^RotteN^ | wenas |
| 09:57.29 | yebian | scratch that it is mounted |
| 09:57.37 | ^RotteN^ | alguien puede ayudarme? |
| 09:57.41 | sobersabre | yebian, can you answere me ? |
| 09:57.42 | chealer | !es |
| 09:57.42 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 09:57.52 | ^RotteN^ | ok |
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| 09:58.04 | yebian | sobersabre: I just did. I said it gives a bad superblock error. |
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| 09:58.13 | sobersabre | you just did not. |
| 09:58.18 | sobersabre | :) |
| 09:58.28 | sobersabre | i haven't seen any /dev/hdXX .... |
| 09:58.47 | yebian | sobersabre: /dev/hda1 |
| 09:58.53 | yebian | sorry |
| 09:59.01 | sobersabre | are you sure ? |
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| 09:59.26 | war- | drac, same stuff, it is like the fonts are smooooshed together rather than being wider, what changed in Debian Sarge recently with the fonts? :( |
| 09:59.31 | sobersabre | "bad superblock" ( unless disk was corrupted... which is rare ) means it is a bad fstype. |
| 09:59.54 | sobersabre | yebian, did you mess with manual editing of partition table ? |
| 10:00.03 | yebian | sobersabre: It IS mounted on /dev/hda1 right now. |
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| 10:00.17 | sobersabre | ntfs or vfat ? |
| 10:00.26 | yebian | sobersabre: ntfs |
| 10:00.37 | MoRLoCh | yebian: if you check with fdisk or cfdisk, is hda1 bootable ? |
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| 10:01.08 | sobersabre | just a moment.. i am checking my own setup. |
| 10:01.24 | yebian | yes |
| 10:01.34 | sobersabre | ok |
| 10:01.46 | sobersabre | you should change: root(hd0,0) |
| 10:01.57 | sobersabre | bye |
| 10:02.05 | sobersabre | :) |
| 10:02.11 | drac | war-: Ah, like that. My fonts changed also during recent upgrade on Sarge, and I had to 'Disable Hinting' from my User Interface settings in XFCE 4.2 but I don't know how you could do the same thing. |
| 10:02.18 | sobersabre | hd0,1 is /dev/hda2 |
| 10:02.26 | sobersabre | yebian, did u get this ? |
| 10:02.27 | MoRLoCh | sobersabre: hehehe |
| 10:02.28 | drac | war-: Hinting is what makes GTK fonts like that. |
| 10:03.00 | sobersabre | MoRLoCh, have i done something wrong ? |
| 10:03.08 | drac | Anyone knows how to disable Hinting from GTK fonts without Gnome or XFCE running? |
| 10:03.22 | MoRLoCh | well ciao |
| 10:03.22 | MoRLoCh | got to go |
| 10:03.23 | yebian | I see your logic. But why does it work? |
| 10:03.41 | sobersabre | yebian, I don't know what exactly works. |
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| 10:03.59 | yebian | sobersabre: I can boot debian from grub. |
| 10:04.02 | sobersabre | I know that in grubbish root(hd0,1) means /dev/hda2 |
| 10:04.12 | sobersabre | yebian, debian root!= windows root |
| 10:04.29 | nagesh | sobersabre, when run vnc4config with options it says cannot open display |
| 10:04.36 | yebian | I know that |
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| 10:04.59 | yebian | I have (hd1,0) for root |
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| 10:05.17 | yebian | and it boots. |
| 10:05.23 | nagesh | LyniX, how can i run vnc in debian |
| 10:05.27 | sobersabre | nagesh, nagesh , where are you running vnc4config ? |
| 10:05.35 | sobersabre | nagesh, |
| 10:05.44 | nagesh | sobersabre, in terminal |
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| 10:05.56 | sobersabre | "terminal" means xterm or console ? |
| 10:06.16 | nagesh | i tried xterm also |
| 10:06.27 | sobersabre | nagesh, can u listen ? |
| 10:06.32 | nagesh | that is xterm vnc4config |
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| 10:06.38 | war- | drac: ahh |
| 10:06.39 | sobersabre | nagesh, can u listen ? |
| 10:06.39 | nagesh | sobersabre, yes |
| 10:06.48 | war- | drac: will look into it, ok thx. |
| 10:06.48 | sobersabre | nagesh, can u follow instruction ? |
| 10:06.48 | nagesh | sobersabre, tell me |
| 10:06.54 | nagesh | sobersabre, yes |
| 10:07.00 | sobersabre | 1. install vnc server on server side. |
| 10:07.09 | sobersabre | 2. install vnc viewer on client side |
| 10:07.13 | nagesh | sobersabre, ok |
| 10:07.20 | sobersabre | 3. run X server on server side. |
| 10:07.20 | nagesh | ok |
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| 10:07.44 | sobersabre | 4. run from the terminal on server side: vnc4server |
| 10:08.04 | nevyn | k0nli3d: what are you running? |
| 10:08.11 | nagesh | sobersabre, ok |
| 10:08.15 | nagesh | i will try |
| 10:08.22 | nevyn | k0nli3d: sid, sarge or woody? |
| 10:08.51 | sobersabre | nagesh, when u ran vnc4server u had output, and it said something with: hostname:number |
| 10:09.02 | nagesh | sobersabre, |
| 10:09.03 | nagesh | ya |
| 10:09.05 | sobersabre | this is what you need to write on the client side in the viewer. |
| 10:09.11 | nagesh | that is like |
| 10:09.14 | nagesh | New 'prash:4 (root)' desktop is prash:4 |
| 10:09.14 | nagesh | Starting applications specified in /root/.vnc/xstartup |
| 10:09.14 | nagesh | Log file is /root/.vnc/prash:4.log |
| 10:09.16 | yebian | sobersabre: I get exactly the error when I try to boot windows. hd (0,1) no such partition. |
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| 10:09.27 | nagesh | sobersabre, here prash:4 |
| 10:09.36 | nagesh | is the new desktop |
| 10:09.42 | nagesh | correct |
| 10:09.46 | sobersabre | nagesh, this means you already have 4 vncservers running. |
| 10:09.58 | nagesh | yes |
| 10:10.08 | sobersabre | r u the only one that tries to setup the vncserver now ? |
| 10:10.10 | nagesh | sobersabre, but i am not able to get xdisplay |
| 10:10.24 | POVaddct | .oO(starting vncserver as root... bad idea) |
| 10:10.25 | nagesh | sobersabre, of those desktops |
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| 10:10.35 | guorke | which can read rss? |
| 10:10.38 | sobersabre | nagesh, ... please forgive me for brutality. but don't ask. answer. |
| 10:10.40 | helios | is gnome-panel still broken in Debian Sid with experimental packages? i'm again meeting some undependencies... |
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| 10:11.06 | sobersabre | are you the only one that launched 4 times vncserver ? |
| 10:11.08 | deadcat | !u |
| 10:11.08 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 10:11.15 | nagesh | POVaddct, i shud not start vnc as root |
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| 10:11.24 | nagesh | POVaddct, help me |
| 10:11.28 | POVaddct | argh |
| 10:11.29 | sobersabre | yebian, hd(0,1) means you haven't edited menu.lst |
| 10:12.13 | yebian | sobersabre: but when I run grub-install it says hd0 /dev/hda hd1 /dev/hdb |
| 10:12.13 | clueless | I am trying to compile zangband and it's looking for a program named aclocal, which I dont have. Which package has it? |
| 10:13.07 | nagesh | POVaddct, sobersabre , when i ran as non-root i got this |
| 10:13.09 | nagesh | nagesh@prash:~$ vnc4server |
| 10:13.10 | nagesh | You will require a password to access your desktops. |
| 10:13.10 | nagesh | Password: |
| 10:13.10 | nagesh | Verify: |
| 10:13.10 | nagesh | Passwords don't match - try again |
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| 10:13.41 | sobersabre | nagesh... this means passwords don't match |
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| 10:14.26 | POVaddct | nagual: then you failed to type in the same password that you gave after "Password:" |
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| 10:15.02 | nagesh | POVaddct, i got this |
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| 10:15.30 | nagesh | POVaddct, nagesh@prash:~$ vnc4server |
| 10:15.30 | nagesh | You will require a password to access your desktops. |
| 10:15.30 | nagesh | Password: |
| 10:15.30 | nagesh | Verify: |
| 10:15.30 | nagesh | Passwords don't match - try again |
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| 10:15.46 | simonrvn | ffs |
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| 10:16.02 | simonrvn | nagesh: dude, get a clue. don't paste here |
| 10:16.02 | wt | anyone here have any experience with netgear fsm7326p? |
| 10:16.06 | nagesh | POVaddct, please tell me |
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| 10:16.20 | nagesh | ok |
| 10:16.35 | POVaddct | nagesh: did you type in anything for the password? |
| 10:16.35 | wt | I am wondering if it is possible to use DHCP to configure a port on it? |
| 10:16.45 | nagesh | i typed correctly |
| 10:16.45 | wt | oh...and it runs linux |
| 10:17.08 | POVaddct | nagesh: don't flood paste here, or you will be kicked |
| 10:17.15 | sobersabre | passwords don't match means that you did NOT type the same password |
| 10:17.17 | nagesh | POVaddct, i got New 'prash:5 (nagesh)' desktop is prash:5 |
| 10:17.28 | nagesh | POVaddct, ok |
| 10:17.55 | nagesh | POVaddct, now how can i access the new desktop |
| 10:18.04 | yebian | sobersabre: I got er. The windows partition is 0,0 |
| 10:18.25 | POVaddct | nagesh: on the _client_ side: vnc4viewer <ip-adress-of-vncserver>:5 |
| 10:18.26 | war- | drac: damn, editied my .fonts.conf, no luck, that last upgrade really fucked the fonts good |
| 10:18.41 | sobersabre | nagesh, speak to me on query.. |
| 10:18.50 | nagesh | the client side is a windows madhine |
| 10:18.58 | nagesh | sorry machine |
| 10:19.03 | drac | war-: I don't even have any .fonts.conf, so that's not the correct place to change that. |
| 10:19.09 | clueless | !aclocal |
| 10:19.16 | yebian | sobersabre: the entry that was in there to boot windows was from the previous installation of windows. now I can boot both. Thanks for the hint. |
| 10:19.29 | POVaddct | nagesh: you can also specify ip-adress and display number in the windows vnc viewer |
| 10:19.30 | clueless | !dpkg aclocal |
| 10:19.55 | drac | war-: Maybe you could ask on #gtk #xfce #gnome how to change Hinting off without actually running any of those WMs. |
| 10:20.04 | rixth | The rar and unrar packages have been obsoleted! Now what? |
| 10:20.15 | drac | rixth: unrar-nonfree |
| 10:20.23 | rixth | Oh yes, thanks |
| 10:20.25 | war- | drac , may have found the fix, maybe, not sure yet brb |
| 10:20.45 | yebian | or get the unrar.rpm from dag weers and alien -d it and manually install it. |
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| 10:21.15 | drac | yebian: why would he do that, since unrar-nonfree is available on apt and it opens everything? |
| 10:21.28 | drac | yebian: installing .rpm's is _bad idea_ |
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| 10:22.20 | war- | drac, nope damn now its worse, fuck |
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| 10:22.24 | yebian | drac: You're right but thats where I got mine. I didn't turn it into a deb I turned it into a tgz and targunzipped it and copy paste the files whre they go. |
| 10:23.01 | yebian | Unlike most people I started with caldera open Linux and from there went to slackware. |
| 10:23.11 | yebian | I can do things the hard way. |
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| 10:24.33 | yebian | You can't even imagine what a boner apt gives me. |
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| 10:24.49 | sly007 | I've got an Asus P4C800 Deluxe mainboard and the sound is onboard, an AD1985 chip. I can't get the sound work with linux. Is there a way to make my sound card recognized, which driver should I use? |
| 10:25.20 | yebian | sly are you using an already built debian kernel? |
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| 10:26.35 | sly007 | no, i compiled it |
| 10:26.55 | yebian | What chipset is it? |
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| 10:27.06 | yebian | the mainboard |
| 10:27.11 | sly007 | i875P |
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| 10:27.26 | yebian | so its a intel. |
| 10:27.30 | sly007 | Yes |
| 10:27.31 | yebian | gimme a minute |
| 10:27.47 | yebian | sly did you make your kernel monolithic? |
| 10:27.58 | yebian | as in no modules? |
| 10:28.05 | somboku | does anybody know ho can i implement ldap:// to firefox? |
| 10:28.06 | cheale1 | yebian: what do you mean by "give a boner"? |
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| 10:28.16 | sly007 | yebian: http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=P4C800%20Deluxe&langs=09 |
| 10:28.35 | yebian | cheale1: yes. |
| 10:28.38 | cheale1 | somboku: there's a #firefox on irc.mozilla.org |
| 10:28.41 | yebian | sly: no |
| 10:28.59 | yebian | sly: I'll look in the kernel. |
| 10:29.03 | somboku | ok thx, ill try there |
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| 10:29.10 | sly007 | yebian, ok |
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| 10:29.58 | yebian | sly did you build a monolithic kernel? |
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| 10:30.21 | Diezel | Anyone have an idea how to fix this? http://www.nixadmins.net/problem.txt |
| 10:30.24 | pwned | We have a box with 128 ram, 500MB HD, I'm looking at http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst , is it possible to cram an X server, a kind of word processor, web browser and multimedia stuff into this box and still have about 100mb space left? |
| 10:30.53 | sly007 | i tried both compiling all sound drivers as modules and compiling them in the kernel |
| 10:31.18 | yebian | sly: so you've got everything in there now? |
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| 10:31.36 | sly007 | yes |
| 10:31.47 | yebian | ok then apt-get install aumix |
| 10:31.59 | yebian | are they all modules now? |
| 10:32.15 | sly007 | what's aulix ? |
| 10:32.17 | sly007 | aumix |
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| 10:32.29 | pwned | it is a mixer |
| 10:32.35 | yebian | aumix is a curses interface for setting the volume |
| 10:34.07 | yebian | cheale: exactly what I said. |
| 10:34.50 | chealer | yebian: what? |
| 10:34.58 | yebian | what you asked me |
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| 10:36.31 | Chameleon22 | how come i get wrong filesystem type when i try to mount a dvd? |
| 10:37.08 | yebian | mount -t fstype /dev/hdc /cdrom |
| 10:37.25 | yebian | man mount for a list of fstype |
| 10:38.30 | Chameleon22 | yebian: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom0 same error |
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| 10:39.04 | yebian | prolly not iso9660 |
| 10:39.12 | yebian | I'm workin on it |
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| 10:39.34 | Chameleon22 | yebian: :| what could it be ? |
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| 10:39.49 | yebian | udf |
| 10:39.50 | Ferret | Try -t auto ? |
| 10:39.58 | yebian | its udf |
| 10:40.15 | yebian | 17 they're ready |
| 10:40.41 | Chameleon22 | yebian: mount: you must specify the filesystem type when i try with auto |
| 10:40.52 | yebian | udf |
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| 10:41.01 | yebian | mount -t udf /dev/hdc /cdrom |
| 10:41.23 | Chameleon22 | yebian: tryed that to and get wrong fs |
| 10:41.34 | Chameleon22 | how do i check if i support udf? |
| 10:41.42 | yebian | you must not have that module loaded |
| 10:41.50 | yebian | lsmod -e |more |
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| 10:42.11 | yebian | confused; lsmod|more |
| 10:42.27 | Chameleon22 | lsmod | grep udf |
| 10:42.27 | Chameleon22 | udf 78880 0 (autoclean) |
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| 10:42.59 | yebian | I just mounted the texas chainsaw massacre and its udf. |
| 10:43.18 | Chameleon22 | hrmm |
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| 10:44.01 | Anders1 | Chameleon22: UDF is not always compiled as a module |
| 10:44.30 | yebian | Chameleon22 said he has it loaded |
| 10:44.44 | Anders1 | oh |
| 10:44.52 | Anders1 | im a bit confused, i mixed you two up |
| 10:44.53 | Chameleon22 | mmm |
| 10:45.18 | Anders1 | sorry :) |
| 10:45.25 | yebian | ok now I mounted a dvd I burned and it says iso9660 |
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| 10:46.32 | yebian | no problem Anders1 I just thought you didn't see that and I was updating you. |
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| 10:46.47 | Anders1 | ;) |
| 10:46.50 | colloron | which debian dist should i get? |
| 10:46.56 | yebian | sarge |
| 10:47.00 | colloron | i know that there's woody, what about sarge? |
| 10:47.05 | colloron | sarge is out already? |
| 10:47.11 | yebian | sarge |
| 10:47.17 | yebian | its not stable |
| 10:47.20 | yebian | its testing |
| 10:47.25 | colloron | ahh |
| 10:47.26 | chealer | colloron: no. for a desktop? |
| 10:47.38 | colloron | no, for server |
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| 10:47.44 | yebian | woody |
| 10:47.46 | colloron | linux gateway at my lan |
| 10:47.59 | colloron | woddy then? |
| 10:48.02 | colloron | woody* |
| 10:48.12 | chealer | colloron: if you're quite concerned about security, you may want woody, otherwise sarge is good too |
| 10:48.20 | yebian | for 5 nines woody. |
| 10:48.29 | yebian | sarge is easier to install. |
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| 10:49.03 | colloron | i can do a server install with just the (1st) install cd of woody right? |
| 10:49.19 | chealer | yes |
| 10:49.24 | yebian | yes and then you can apt everything off of the internet. |
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| 10:49.34 | colloron | yep, just my thought :p |
| 10:49.42 | colloron | ok i think ill do that |
| 10:49.53 | colloron | for desktop you'd recommend sarge im guessing |
| 10:50.01 | chealer | definitely |
| 10:50.10 | colloron | what are the differences? |
| 10:50.34 | chealer | colloron: one is in (advanced) testing, the other is old |
| 10:50.48 | chealer | if you mean which packages...ask which ones you care about |
| 10:51.05 | yebian | sarge has apt repositories with more entertaining stuff and more support for spankin new hardware |
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| 10:51.46 | colloron | ok thanks |
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| 10:51.53 | yebian | but the packages dont ALL work splendidly with each other and some of the software has issues. |
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| 10:53.09 | PerfDave | And Sarge has no security updates yet. |
| 10:53.17 | chealer | oh, right :| |
| 10:53.37 | deadcat | if its a desktop. just use testing. |
| 10:53.50 | deadcat | no worries. jsut apt-get upgrade every week |
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| 10:59.41 | karsten | deadcat: apt-cache search 'every week': nothing found. |
| 11:00.13 | deadcat | t('.'t) (= |
| 11:00.48 | karsten | deadcat: ?? |
| 11:00.53 | deadcat | karsten: can i see your .screenrc? |
| 11:01.27 | karsten | deadcat: cat /dev/null |
| 11:01.46 | karsten | deadcat: I don't have one. |
| 11:01.53 | deadcat | ah. |
| 11:01.58 | deadcat | karsten: use default settings eh? |
| 11:02.29 | karsten | deadcat: Apparently. |
| 11:02.35 | karsten | Why? |
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| 11:03.09 | deadcat | just wonder how you use screen |
| 11:03.22 | karsten | deadcat: Poorly |
| 11:03.40 | karsten | deadcat: Standard stuff. I use it to keep open sessions between X restarts, remote access. |
| 11:04.24 | deadcat | karsten: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/screen/ heheh. |
| 11:04.24 | karsten | deadcat: ...just killed off about 4-5 screens I'd had running here. This particular sessions a couple months old, I think. |
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| 11:05.03 | xLobeznox | I am trying to compile a software called xvattr but says me that I dont have "lX11" |
| 11:05.10 | xLobeznox | what library is tryint to use? |
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| 11:05.28 | deadcat | xLobeznox: apt-cache search lX11 dev |
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| 11:06.17 | d0ugie | any free (and compatible) equivalents to cPanel? something for users to manage their accounts with a web interface, that kind of thing? |
| 11:06.22 | xLobeznox | nothing deadcat |
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| 11:06.52 | xLobeznox | deadcat, libx11-dev is installed |
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| 11:07.15 | xLobeznox | but I remember I need to make a link from a library to a same called .so (without .0) |
| 11:07.19 | SYL | does anyone know which cd i should be downloading in order to install debian? |
| 11:07.20 | xLobeznox | but I dont remember what |
| 11:07.22 | karsten | deadcat: WTF is cPanel? |
| 11:07.25 | xLobeznox | :/ |
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| 11:07.36 | deadcat | karsten: cpanel? where that at? |
| 11:07.48 | Gnea | SYL: the first one |
| 11:07.56 | paulswm | !tell SYL about d-i |
| 11:08.00 | SYL | just CD1? |
| 11:08.03 | karsten | xLobeznox: auto-apt may be able to show you what lib that is. |
| 11:08.09 | karsten | deadcat: NM. |
| 11:08.15 | karsten | d0ugie: cPanel? |
| 11:08.20 | karsten | d0ugie: ^^ |
| 11:08.21 | Gnea | it all depends how you wish to proceed after the initial installation |
| 11:08.21 | PerfDave | SYL: Have you read the Installation Manual? |
| 11:08.30 | karsten | deadcat: NFC. |
| 11:08.39 | karsten | !tell SYL about d-i |
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| 11:08.51 | karsten | SYL: if you've got broadband, home/desktop, use sarge netinst. |
| 11:09.01 | xLobeznox | auto-apt ? |
| 11:09.12 | deadcat | cpanel is for vhosting i think. |
| 11:09.12 | SYL | ok |
| 11:09.16 | karsten | xLobeznox: Yes. It's a Debian package. |
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| 11:09.39 | deadcat | karsten: my hardstatus string for screenrc is mighty cool. (= |
| 11:09.47 | d0ugie | karsten: cpanel.net ... lets users who don't know what's going on manage their accounts, from installing a "shopping cart" credit card method for their website or configure phpnuke, or give them a graphical disk manager, let them manage subdomains and email forwarding, all that stuff |
| 11:09.55 | arturaz_ | where i can turn off ipv6 support in debian? |
| 11:10.16 | karsten | xLobeznox: With auto-apt, if you request access to a file, it automatically figures out what package it belongs to, and fetches it for you. |
| 11:10.35 | karsten | d0ugie: URL? |
| 11:10.42 | xLobeznox | ok |
| 11:10.44 | karsten | d0ugie: Is that an admin tool for 'Doze or something? |
| 11:10.52 | xLobeznox | the problem is that I dont know what is the file |
| 11:10.54 | xLobeznox | ... |
| 11:11.12 | xLobeznox | the name of the file |
| 11:11.20 | karsten | d0ugie: Ah. Well, there's a Debian package (beta) at http://cpanel.net/ |
| 11:11.22 | d0ugie | http://cpanel.net .. no, it's for the *nix's and intended for large isps |
| 11:11.28 | Gnea | xLobeznox: it is what it is |
| 11:11.29 | karsten | xLobeznox: You're trying to build something, right? |
| 11:11.51 | xLobeznox | karsten, yes |
| 11:12.12 | xLobeznox | I only want to know what is "lX11" |
| 11:12.20 | xLobeznox | what library is looking for |
| 11:12.25 | Gnea | heh |
| 11:12.26 | karsten | xLobeznox: you run IIRC 'apt-shell', then you've got a shell running under auto-apt. It *automatically* (hence the name _auto_ -apt) detects access attempts to noninstalled files from Debian packages. |
| 11:12.28 | Gnea | -lX11 |
| 11:12.31 | xLobeznox | because I have libx11-dev allready installed |
| 11:12.31 | Gnea | -l |
| 11:12.34 | Gnea | X11 |
| 11:12.36 | karsten | xLobeznox: ...so when you run 'make' it'll figure stuff out. |
| 11:12.36 | d0ugie | karsten: i see it says it supports a debian version but on the download page there is no sign of a deb package |
| 11:12.52 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, libX11.so |
| 11:12.55 | xLobeznox | ok |
| 11:12.59 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, thanks |
| 11:13.00 | Gnea | now |
| 11:13.06 | Gnea | dpkg -S libX11.so |
| 11:13.07 | dpkg | There is no record of a libX11.so package |
| 11:13.15 | Gnea | heh |
| 11:13.16 | karsten | d0ugie: Suggest you contact the good folks at cpanel.net. |
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| 11:13.33 | d0ugie | k ... |
| 11:13.33 | karsten | dpkg -S libx11.so |
| 11:13.34 | dpkg | There is no record of a libx11.so package |
| 11:13.40 | karsten | dpkg -S libx11 |
| 11:13.41 | dpkg | There is no record of a libx11 package |
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| 11:13.49 | Gnea | dpkg -S lame |
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| 11:13.50 | dpkg | Package: lame: Status: install ok installed |
| 11:13.57 | d0ugie | weird, the only ware i know of that works on pretty much every unix/linux distro except debian (until now i guess, in beta) |
| 11:14.02 | mathieu_ | libx11-6: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2 |
| 11:14.02 | mathieu_ | libx11-dev: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so |
| 11:14.02 | mathieu_ | libx11-6: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 |
| 11:14.04 | mathieu_ | (on sid) |
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| 11:14.51 | xLobeznox | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1551658 2005-03-30 19:33 libX11.a |
| 11:14.51 | xLobeznox | lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11 2005-04-02 12:30 libX11.so -> libX11.so.6 |
| 11:14.51 | xLobeznox | lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13 2005-03-31 20:34 libX11.so.6 -> libX11.so.6.2 |
| 11:14.51 | xLobeznox | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 893604 2005-03-30 19:33 libX11.so.6.2 |
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| 11:14.59 | xLobeznox | sorry |
| 11:15.05 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, it seems to be installed |
| 11:15.09 | deadcat | idiots dont learn from above idiot |
| 11:15.19 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, and it's not found? |
| 11:15.25 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, no |
| 11:15.43 | mathieu_ | add -L/usr/X11R6/lib |
| 11:15.55 | mathieu_ | for the linking |
| 11:15.55 | b00 | hey, where is the file with samba users ? |
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| 11:16.17 | deadcat | b00: /etc/samba/ |
| 11:16.20 | Gnea | b00: i believe you have to create it |
| 11:16.36 | b00 | deadcat: err, not there |
| 11:16.37 | b00 | Gnea: ok |
| 11:16.46 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, I dont understand |
| 11:16.56 | b00 | weird, i have one user (myself) being able to access samba |
| 11:17.02 | b00 | but, i dont have the file with users |
| 11:17.08 | karsten | b00: Depends on the samba database backend. |
| 11:17.10 | Gnea | b00: it depends how you set samba up |
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| 11:17.26 | b00 | i see |
| 11:17.33 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, first, what's in /etc/ld.so.conf? |
| 11:17.33 | Gnea | either shared or user auth |
| 11:17.34 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, I put LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib and cant find it |
| 11:17.40 | karsten | deadcat: You're sick, BTW. |
| 11:17.42 | Gnea | if it's shared then it doesn't matter |
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| 11:17.48 | karsten | deadcat: ...looking at your screen screenshots. |
| 11:17.49 | xLobeznox | just that mathieu_ |
| 11:18.12 | Gnea | if t's user auth then you need to set things up for it |
| 11:18.20 | b00 | Gnea: i want user auth |
| 11:18.21 | Gnea | +i |
| 11:18.25 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, eh? ld.so.conf should only contain dirs |
| 11:18.33 | Gnea | b00: consider samba's homepage |
| 11:18.36 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, that is a dir |
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| 11:18.37 | b00 | yea |
| 11:18.38 | marcreichelt | sorry, I have a small question about the gnome file manager |
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| 11:18.45 | mathieu_ | LD_LIBRARY_PATH is an environment var |
| 11:18.47 | xLobeznox | this : /usr/X11R6/lib |
| 11:18.48 | nessuno | hi all |
| 11:18.49 | deadcat | karsten: whys that? why am i sick? (= |
| 11:19.00 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is what i write for compiling |
| 11:19.01 | xLobeznox | no more |
| 11:19.16 | karsten | deadcat: multi-panel screen |
| 11:19.16 | mathieu_ | LD_LIBR.. is _not_ for compiling |
| 11:19.20 | mathieu_ | it's for executing |
| 11:19.25 | xLobeznox | ok |
| 11:19.32 | deadcat | karsten: splitting? |
| 11:19.47 | xLobeznox | anyway the dir is in /etc/ld.so.conf so.. It should work |
| 11:19.54 | karsten | deadcat: Yeah. |
| 11:20.03 | karsten | deadcat: That's a surefire way for me to get confuzzed. |
| 11:20.04 | marcreichelt | where can I change the behavior of the gnome file manager that he doesn't open new windows if I click on a directory? |
| 11:20.22 | deadcat | karsten: girl! (=. took me a while to get the right caption when splitting |
| 11:20.49 | karsten | deadcat: !girl. |
| 11:20.52 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, http://rafb.net/paste/results/n2NkGJ86.html |
| 11:20.58 | mathieu_ | marcreichelt, how are you running it? |
| 11:21.03 | karsten | deadcat: ...but you know that. |
| 11:21.06 | mathieu_ | marcreichelt, a shortcut? |
| 11:21.08 | xLobeznox | this is what I obtain listing the path, can you find something missing? |
| 11:21.18 | deadcat | karsten: now its better because i just changed the caption line. brighter with ( 0*$ bash ) when active and [ $ bash ] not active |
| 11:21.30 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, should be fine |
| 11:21.39 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, can you take a view? |
| 11:21.44 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, can you also paste the error somewhere? |
| 11:21.52 | Chameleon22 | anyone knows of any apps that will make a 1:1 copy of a dvd? |
| 11:21.54 | xLobeznox | the error is in spanish |
| 11:22.03 | marcreichelt | mathieu_, I'm clicking on my "home" folder, now I'm clicking on the "Desktop"-directory and he opens it in a new window, but he shouldn't |
| 11:22.10 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, yo hablo también castellano ;) |
| 11:22.18 | nessuno | after an upgrade, yesterday, if i run startx as user the server crash and report: Warning: Cannot convert string "" to type XftFont. what can i do ? |
| 11:22.23 | deadcat | karsten: with my caption and hardstatus in .screenrc, its harder to be confuse when splitting screens. |
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| 11:22.29 | marcreichelt | mathieu_, and I can't find any option to change this behaviour |
| 11:22.29 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, ah ok |
| 11:22.36 | hettar | Chameleon22: dvd shrink. but it isn't a linux app |
| 11:22.49 | Chameleon22 | hettar: ehh need a linux app |
| 11:22.52 | mdke | how can I remove unnecessary depencies with apt? Such as dependencies which have become unnecessary because I remove the package which called them in |
| 11:22.54 | karsten | deadcat: Ahh... I've now got two regions showing different screens at the same time.... |
| 11:22.59 | karsten | deadcat: ...this could get fun. |
| 11:23.05 | mathieu_ | marcreichelt, when it's a shortcut, you can edit the target. you just need to remove one command-line flag |
| 11:23.17 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, http://rafb.net/paste/results/IGrTbK88.html |
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| 11:23.25 | marcreichelt | mathieu_, no, it's a simple directoryx |
| 11:23.52 | karsten | marcreichelt: dpkg -l | awk '/gnome/ {print $1}' | xargs aptitude purge |
| 11:23.59 | PerfDave | mdke: deborphan, debfoster |
| 11:24.02 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, try gcc -o xvattr xvattr.o -lX11 -lXext -L/usr/X11R6/lib |
| 11:24.22 | mdke | PerfDave, thanks. Apt doesn't do it? |
| 11:24.22 | d0ugie | is there a text version of xtraceroute that would try to estimate where the ip (or routers in front that put out long/latitude data) is geographically? |
| 11:24.29 | marcreichelt | karsten, what does this do? |
| 11:24.39 | karsten | marcreichelt: Purges all gnome packages ;-) |
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| 11:24.59 | PerfDave | mdke: Why would apt do it? That's not apt's job. |
| 11:25.03 | karsten | marcreichelt: ...which honestly probably isn't what you want to do, though I'd argue it solves your problem. |
| 11:25.04 | deadcat | try apt-get remove --purge world |
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| 11:25.11 | xLobeznox | http://rafb.net/paste/results/J2PN9O91.html |
| 11:25.13 | xLobeznox | :( |
| 11:25.22 | karsten | deadcat: How do you change the screen label color? |
| 11:25.30 | mdke | deadcat, serious? |
| 11:25.31 | karsten | deadcat: ...nm. It's just reverse text. |
| 11:25.38 | deadcat | mdke: na. joking (= |
| 11:25.41 | marcreichelt | karsten, ahh ok |
| 11:25.42 | mdke | k |
| 11:25.49 | mdke | maybe apt-get depclean |
| 11:25.53 | mdke | thanks PerfDave |
| 11:25.56 | marcreichelt | karsten, so I'm leaving the problem like this |
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| 11:26.04 | karsten | deadcat: what app's running here? http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/screen/xwd_20050401_5251.png?orig |
| 11:26.12 | karsten | marcreichelt: Really, you don't want my help. |
| 11:26.25 | deadcat | karsten: if you are talking about ^A+" , then its sorendition |
| 11:26.38 | marcreichelt | karsten, yes I want ;-) |
| 11:27.17 | deadcat | karsten: kismet wireless network scanner |
| 11:27.24 | karsten | deadcat: ?? |
| 11:27.34 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, add -lXv |
| 11:27.34 | karsten | deadcat: ...ah. Cool. I thought something wifi. |
| 11:27.44 | deadcat | hehe |
| 11:27.59 | karsten | deadcat: How about: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/screen/xwd_20050401_5291.png?orig |
| 11:28.17 | marcreichelt | well, then bye |
| 11:28.22 | karsten | deadcat: Top is something music. Middle dunno. Bottom's irssi. |
| 11:28.31 | deadcat | karsten: irssi centericq playmp3list |
| 11:28.47 | karsten | deadcat: thanks. |
| 11:29.07 | karsten | deadcat: an awful lot of these are showing screen help dialogs ;-) |
| 11:29.28 | arturaz_ | how do i turn off ipv6 in debian? i don't have ipv6 and i don't want my apps resolving v6 addrs, then lurking 10 minutes trying to connect them |
| 11:29.30 | xLobeznox | that worked |
| 11:29.32 | deadcat | hehe |
| 11:30.02 | karsten | deadcat: What's your terminal prog? |
| 11:30.25 | deadcat | karsten: xterm |
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| 11:30.34 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, and now? |
| 11:30.38 | karsten | deadcat: How...prosaic ;-) |
| 11:30.40 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, that worked, why? |
| 11:30.43 | karsten | deadcat: rxvt here. |
| 11:30.47 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, i did grep -r XvGetPortAttribute *.so in /usr/X11R6/lib |
| 11:30.49 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, what is wrong then? |
| 11:30.56 | quannum_ | hello all |
| 11:31.03 | deadcat | karsten: xterm can use AA fonts. |
| 11:31.04 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, the makefile is incomplete so it seems |
| 11:31.06 | karsten | deadcat: Curious about the different text colors. I run -bg=black -fg=gold myself. |
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| 11:31.10 | grisu | hi |
| 11:31.11 | karsten | !all |
| 11:31.11 | dpkg | all is probably fair in love and war |
| 11:31.17 | karsten | deadcat: No shit... |
| 11:31.22 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, do you have a line LDFLAGS= in 'Makefile' ? |
| 11:31.31 | deadcat | karsten: hehe. rxvt do aa? |
| 11:31.39 | karsten | deadcat: rxvt's not doing AA ATM, though I'm not sure if that's just a matter of fonts. |
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| 11:31.46 | karsten | deadcat: urxvt does unicoded |
| 11:31.57 | deadcat | karsten: no clue what unicode does. |
| 11:32.06 | karsten | deadcat: Main complaint I've got is that ANSI colors suck. |
| 11:32.12 | karsten | deadcat: International characters. |
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| 11:32.28 | karsten | deadcat: ....if you've got the right fonts. Which I don't have. Chinese spam is *still* linenoise. |
| 11:32.29 | quannum_ | question: i upgraded some apllication today including fonts, now i have very ugly big fonts, and it cant fint artwiz fonts anymore even /etc/fonts/local.conf is gone |
| 11:32.31 | deadcat | karsten: ah. no need for that. hehe |
| 11:32.38 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, I downloaded a previous version of xvattr and compile OK |
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| 11:32.42 | quannum_ | someone around knows or had the same issue ? |
| 11:32.48 | SYL | can someone guide me to which debian cd to download on cd1? |
| 11:32.58 | grisu | i need libstdc++2.8 to get a client application running. problem is that linking against more current versions doesn't work really. libstdc++2.8 seems not available to install really. where to get it? maybe there is another solution to this? |
| 11:32.59 | deadcat | SYL: desktop or server? |
| 11:32.59 | quannum_ | syl? |
| 11:33.04 | SYL | what is nosus? |
| 11:33.12 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, they somehow forgot to link to libXv.so too |
| 11:33.13 | SYL | desktop |
| 11:33.23 | xLobeznox | ok |
| 11:33.31 | deadcat | !tell SYL about d-i |
| 11:33.32 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, ok |
| 11:33.36 | xLobeznox | to link where? |
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| 11:33.45 | karsten | SYL: d-i. You've been told. Otherwise give more info. |
| 11:33.49 | deadcat | SYL: get that 40MB net install cd. |
| 11:34.06 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, 'linking', as in the stage after compiling |
| 11:34.18 | karsten | SYL: Personally I'd recommend 110 MB. |
| 11:34.33 | karsten | deadcat: 40 MB doesn't work for some situations. |
| 11:34.43 | SYL | ummmm, i'm on one of the FTP servers |
| 11:34.53 | SYL | and there is 2 different CD1 to download |
| 11:34.59 | xLobeznox | ij |
| 11:35.02 | xLobeznox | thanks mathieu_ |
| 11:35.05 | xLobeznox | where are you from really? |
| 11:35.06 | xLobeznox | xD |
| 11:35.07 | deadcat | karsten: the rc2 works great for me on people's machine |
| 11:35.07 | SYL | just not too sure which one i should get? |
| 11:35.20 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, belgium |
| 11:35.25 | karsten | deadcat: OK. |
| 11:35.26 | SYL | one of them has nosus on it |
| 11:35.57 | paulswm | SYL: you've already been told where to go and which CD to get |
| 11:36.35 | karsten | SYL: WTF is "nosus"? |
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| 11:36.54 | SYL | karsten, i have no idea. |
| 11:36.59 | paulswm | SYL: which FTP server? |
| 11:37.21 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, is weird that you know castilian |
| 11:37.37 | SYL | the mirror at pacific.net.au |
| 11:37.37 | SYL | its also on the torrent as well |
| 11:38.38 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, i learnt it before i went to argentina on holidays |
| 11:38.46 | xLobeznox | oh |
| 11:38.47 | xLobeznox | :) |
| 11:39.02 | xLobeznox | I am not very fast with idioms.. |
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| 11:40.01 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, you mean, languages? |
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| 11:40.57 | xLobeznox | yep |
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| 11:41.37 | hellais | anyone got a asus wl-167g |
| 11:41.42 | hellais | usb wireless card |
| 11:41.43 | hellais | ? |
| 11:41.44 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, tends to happen when you speak a main-stream language |
| 11:41.50 | karsten | !tell hellais about polls |
| 11:41.59 | deadcat | hellais: what chipset? |
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| 11:42.17 | paulswm | SYL: That's not 'nosus', that's *** NONUS ***, and that's the woody distro, sarge is better for the desktop |
| 11:42.17 | hellais | lol |
| 11:42.30 | quannum_ | question: i upgraded some apllication today including fonts, now i have very ugly big fonts, and it cant fint artwiz fonts anymore even /etc/fonts/local.conf is gone |
| 11:42.31 | hellais | it should be rt2500 |
| 11:42.32 | quannum_ | ?? |
| 11:42.43 | paulswm | !tell SYL about d-i |
| 11:42.46 | bosewicht | does anyone know wherei can find a ndiswrapper0.8 deb package? |
| 11:42.47 | deadcat | hellais: google |
| 11:42.50 | hellais | !tell hellais about bad polls |
| 11:42.51 | paulswm | AGAIN |
| 11:42.54 | hellais | ya |
| 11:42.55 | hellais | yeah |
| 11:43.02 | deadcat | bosewicht: ndiswrapper.sf.net theres a link |
| 11:43.06 | hellais | I found the right driver |
| 11:43.13 | bosewicht | not for 0.8 |
| 11:43.15 | xLobeznox | mathieu_, you mean mine? |
| 11:43.21 | xLobeznox | I speak english and castilian |
| 11:43.22 | hellais | but It wont work |
| 11:43.26 | xLobeznox | and learning basque now |
| 11:43.29 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, yes |
| 11:43.31 | hellais | it doesn't reconise my card |
| 11:43.39 | hellais | maybe I need another driver |
| 11:43.41 | hellais | :\ |
| 11:43.43 | drac | bosewicht: apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential && m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
| 11:44.03 | drac | and apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils |
| 11:44.06 | mathieu_ | xLobeznox, dutch, french, english, castillan |
| 11:44.38 | bosewicht | lol...if i had a network connection i wouldn't need the ndiswrapper...and i have version .11 installed, it doesn't support my card with the 2.6 kernel |
| 11:44.38 | hellais | drac I'm on ppc |
| 11:44.48 | hellais | :P |
| 11:45.07 | hellais | ah bosewicht |
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| 11:45.29 | drac | i'm not sure who was i talking anymore, but that's how you install ndiswrapper in sarge. |
| 11:45.33 | drac | ;p |
| 11:45.39 | hellais | LOOl |
| 11:46.12 | deejoe | drac: what's "m-a a-i" |
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| 11:46.22 | deadcat | deejoe: man m-a |
| 11:46.27 | hellais | anyways can anyone help me? |
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| 11:46.33 | drac | deejoe: module-assistant. man m-a |
| 11:46.36 | deadcat | hellais: what driver you using? |
| 11:46.52 | hellais | I was trying with the rt2500 |
| 11:46.59 | Chameleon22 | mmmmmmmmmmm |
| 11:46.59 | deejoe | $ man m-a |
| 11:47.00 | deejoe | No manual entry for m-a |
| 11:47.01 | Chameleon22 | YUM |
| 11:47.04 | Coke | Is there a way to "label" alsa devices? Trying to find a reference manual for .asoundrc, but it seems that the magic for configuring alsa is a well protected secret. |
| 11:47.06 | hellais | but I think its the wrong one |
| 11:47.07 | hellais | :\ |
| 11:47.20 | deadcat | hellais: any luck from google? |
| 11:47.21 | drac | deejoe: install module-assistant of course before :P |
| 11:47.24 | hellais | asus has released proprietary drivers |
| 11:47.31 | hellais | but they are for fedora core |
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| 11:48.06 | hellais | deadcat: I found a forum saying they tryed with the rt2500 driver on debian |
| 11:48.11 | hellais | but I didnt work] |
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| 11:50.30 | deejoe | drac: cool. Thanks! Wish I'd known about m-a earlier in the work week. |
| 11:50.34 | quannum_ | question: i upgraded some apllication today including fonts, now i have very ugly big fonts, and it cant fint artwiz fonts anymore even /etc/fonts/local.conf is gone |
| 11:51.13 | drac | deejoe: it's nice, i've installed nvidia drivers and shfs kernel module with it. |
| 11:51.15 | cahoot | Coke: meaning devices like hw:0,2 not different sound cards? |
| 11:51.18 | nessuno | startx won't run a session: Warning: cannot convert string "" to type XftFont. Anyone has esperience with this issue ? |
| 11:51.55 | bosewicht | so ndiswrapper 0.8 doesn't exist anymore? |
| 11:52.03 | Coke | cahoot: different sound cards |
| 11:52.05 | deejoe | drac: I was working with the openafs modules, but finally got it going. |
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| 11:52.39 | Coke | cahoot: I always want my ice1712 to be the "default" device, regardless of how and when the modules are loaded. |
| 11:53.17 | Coke | cahoot: hm. I can name the pcm devices, I guess that implies I can select a pcm device on a specific card, so it could solve my problem. |
| 11:53.38 | cahoot | Coke: declared ice1712 as !default? |
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| 11:54.19 | quannum_ | [granger] :) |
| 11:55.31 | cahoot | Coke: like: pcm.!default { type hw card 0|1}? |
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| 11:56.30 | Coke | cahoot: yeah, that would actualy do it. I found a asoundrc tutorial on the site, this time it was better NOT to google and just go to the project site. |
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| 11:59.01 | quannum_ | are there more debian channels on this server? |
| 11:59.20 | bosewicht | why?? nobody knows what they are doing here anyways |
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| 12:00.03 | quannum_ | bosewicht, can you help me a bit with my font issue? |
| 12:00.21 | chealer | quannum_: /msg chanserv list #debian* |
| 12:00.32 | chealer | which channel are you looking for otherwise? |
| 12:00.51 | quannum_ | thanks |
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| 12:00.58 | amx | hi guys |
| 12:01.06 | [Granger] | just so you know quannum_ |
| 12:01.18 | amx | which Pentium class CPU could a 170Mhz UltraSPARC 64bit CPU be compared to? |
| 12:01.21 | [Granger] | I'm not going to help you with any issues because you absolutely refuse to read the documentation |
| 12:01.29 | [Granger] | I'm not going to tutor you from scratch |
| 12:01.50 | amx | that would be a Pentium 1 class right? |
| 12:01.58 | [Granger] | umm |
| 12:02.10 | [Granger] | the only 64-bit P4 cpus are P4s |
| 12:02.19 | amx | oh |
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| 12:02.22 | tarzeau | [Granger]: and sparc? |
| 12:02.30 | war- | There is a REALLY bad bug with Debian Sarge's xterm where if you tail -f a file that has a wierd character in it, the terminal will scroll like crazy and consume 100% of the CPU, when will this be fixed? : |
| 12:02.33 | amx | but Sun has had 64 bit architecture from much earlier on eh |
| 12:02.33 | tarzeau | [Granger]: or alpha? |
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| 12:02.49 | karsten | war-: ...when you stop scrolling. |
| 12:02.55 | tarzeau | war-: which wierd character is that? |
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| 12:03.27 | war- | tarzeau: I wish I knew, I tail -f my log files (like iptables logs) .. after a while it will do it.. and I cannot reproduce it, it is periodic |
| 12:03.39 | war- | tarzeau: previously I always built my xterm's from source, never had an issue |
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| 12:04.07 | tarzeau | war-: is it reproducable with other terminals? say aterm, Terminal ? |
| 12:04.18 | quannum_ | [Granger], didnt ask you.. |
| 12:04.28 | leikh | are there any browsers similar to lynx that supports ssl? or it could just be something like wget... |
| 12:04.37 | quannum_ | but i did read all ready |
| 12:04.50 | quannum_ | sorry |
| 12:04.53 | [Granger] | no you didn't |
| 12:04.55 | war- | tarzeau: I will try to reproduce with aterm/otehr terminals. |
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| 12:05.20 | tarzeau | leikh: links2 |
| 12:05.26 | tarzeau | leikh: (but not the debian package) |
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| 12:05.50 | leikh | tarzeau: ok. thx |
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| 12:06.17 | quannum_ | [Granger] realy, i tryed for 2days on google cant find anything, can you only give me a hint where to search ? |
| 12:06.37 | goron | How can I calculate how much Watt my power supply of my computer is? There's no real Watt number on it, but there are several others. Can somebody help me with this? |
| 12:06.43 | nextime | 2 |
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| 12:07.45 | trentbuck | Via the Sarge installer, I created two RAID1 arrays, but after rebooting I can only see /dev/md1. |
| 12:07.50 | Coke | cahoot: the problem is that the examples in the ALSA docs are too old. |
| 12:07.56 | trentbuck | Can anyone help me diagnose the problem? |
| 12:08.34 | CyberShadow | is there something like Windows' CharMap to allow me to find and copy unicode characters? |
| 12:08.41 | trentbuck | CyberShadow: gucharmap |
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| 12:09.05 | CyberShadow | trentbuck: thanks |
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| 12:09.30 | RichiH | !sarge |
| 12:09.30 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the current testing release code-name, and will be 3.1 when it's released. Ask me about <d-i> to get the installer. |
| 12:09.37 | tarzeau | CyberShadow: there's also charmap.app |
| 12:09.40 | amx | wheres greycat |
| 12:09.51 | ETESTS | Hello, how is the name of the german debian channel? |
| 12:09.51 | paulswm | goron: check your PC manufaturer's web site, or get the model number and manufactirer off the PS and check their web site |
| 12:09.54 | tarzeau | amx: often not here on the weekends (no surprise to me) |
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| 12:10.00 | tarzeau | !german |
| 12:10.00 | dpkg | [german] #debian.de - deutschsprachige Debian-Hilfe gibt es in #debian.de |
| 12:10.03 | RichiH | where is the sarge bug list, again? |
| 12:10.13 | tarzeau | RichiH: topic of #debian-bugs ? |
| 12:10.15 | ETESTS | thanks |
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| 12:10.28 | amx | tarzeau: which (pentium) CPU would a 170Mhz UltraSPARC 64bit be compared to? |
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| 12:10.39 | _kaz | How do you set the default route in debian? ... in freebsd I would do: route add default 12.34.56.78 |
| 12:10.46 | tarzeau | amx: where did you see a 170mhz ultrasparc? |
| 12:10.52 | streuner_ | _kaz: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 12:11.00 | tarzeau | amx: oh wait you mean 167mhz but that's the slowest ones |
| 12:11.03 | war- | tarzeau: unreproducable so far |
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| 12:11.52 | trentbuck | nm, I tried "mdadm --assemble /dev/md0" and it started syncing. |
| 12:12.01 | amx | tarzeau: yeah |
| 12:12.02 | karsten | _kaz: Same, but you automate as streuner said. |
| 12:12.08 | amx | tarzeau: i saw one on ebay |
| 12:12.13 | trentbuck | Hopefully I haven't hosed my old fs :-) |
| 12:12.34 | PerfDave | karsten: I think it needs to be "route add default gw" in Linux, rather than "route add default" in BSD, but I could be wrong :) |
| 12:12.38 | amx | tarzeau: its the equivalent of a Pentium I? |
| 12:12.39 | goron | paulswm: Well, it says Golden Field, but I can't find their website. Then there's a number BS-7230H which I think is the model nuimber and there's another number 90924 |
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| 12:12.44 | tarzeau | amx: definitely not |
| 12:12.49 | amx | II? |
| 12:12.59 | Sylvester | plz |
| 12:13.03 | karsten | PerfDave: 'gw' is an alias IIRC. |
| 12:13.05 | Sylvester | somebody help me |
| 12:13.09 | tarzeau | amx: i'd say p3 . but you can't compare it like that |
| 12:13.12 | karsten | PerfDave: Though I could also be wrong. |
| 12:13.19 | amx | tareau oh |
| 12:13.24 | goron | Got it |
| 12:13.26 | amx | +z |
| 12:13.34 | Sylvester | how can i hack computers by linux? |
| 12:13.34 | trentbuck | Sylvester: Try describing the problem before asking for assistance. |
| 12:13.35 | goron | paulswm: Thanx |
| 12:13.41 | amx | hah |
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| 12:14.04 | PerfDave | Sylvester: You need to install r00t4l1z3r package |
| 12:14.14 | Sylvester | what? |
| 12:14.25 | Sylvester | to what? |
| 12:14.41 | PerfDave | Sylvester: It's a package, you install it. |
| 12:14.44 | streuner | Sylvester: what do you mean with 'hack'? |
| 12:15.07 | PerfDave | !tell Sylvester -about msg |
| 12:15.08 | trentbuck | Sylvester: As root, do ping -f fbi.gov. With any luck, you'll never need to ask us questions again. |
| 12:15.24 | Sylvester | i know |
| 12:15.47 | amx | lol |
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| 12:15.52 | Sylvester | im runni a Linux platform...under a internet gateway |
| 12:15.55 | amx | trentbuck: :D |
| 12:16.03 | cahoot | Coke: I can set any card (of 3) as default using the method described abovew |
| 12:16.05 | PerfDave | Sylvester: Are you running Debian? |
| 12:16.08 | paulswm | goron: it's 250W, see http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.trend-works.com/igolden250.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Golden%2BField%2522%2B%2522BS-7230H%2522%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG |
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| 12:16.14 | paulswm | crap, he left |
| 12:16.22 | streuner | Sylvester: hardware-router? |
| 12:16.26 | viyyer | I am trying to configure jabber daemon.. I am not able to the daemon using the defaults . any pointers |
| 12:16.27 | viyyer | ?? |
| 12:17.23 | Sylvester | ya....hardware router |
| 12:17.27 | PerfDave | Sylvester: Are you running Debian? |
| 12:17.29 | Sylvester | linux kurumin |
| 12:17.37 | Sylvester | im a newbie in linux |
| 12:17.46 | trentbuck | Sylvester: I'd never have guessed |
| 12:17.46 | PerfDave | Sylvester: Then your questions are not relevant here. Kurumin is not Debian. |
| 12:17.48 | streuner | Sylvester: /j #kurumin |
| 12:17.48 | PerfDave | !kurumin |
| 12:17.49 | dpkg | Kurumin Linux is a Brazilian run-from-CD Linux distribution based on Knoppix. That means it's not debian. Go away.. Ajuda pra Kurumin: http://www.kurumin.com.br |
| 12:17.49 | Sylvester | but iknow a lot of linux commands |
| 12:18.00 | amx | tsk |
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| 12:18.22 | Sylvester | e eu sei..ya i know this |
| 12:18.31 | Sylvester | i live in brasil |
| 12:18.48 | streuner | install debian |
| 12:18.52 | PerfDave | Sylvester: So go bother Kurumin people about it, or install Debian. |
| 12:19.02 | Sylvester | what happen if i do "ping -f" |
| 12:19.13 | PerfDave | Sylvester: man ping |
| 12:19.14 | Sylvester | i have to download it first |
| 12:19.29 | Sylvester | man ping? |
| 12:20.02 | PerfDave | Sylvester: Go to #kurumin, not #debian. You're not running Debian. |
| 12:20.09 | Sylvester | ok |
| 12:20.28 | Sylvester | ill not change my platform |
| 12:20.34 | Sylvester | because |
| 12:20.54 | drac | Sylvester: You can type all that to one line, without pressing enter between words. |
| 12:20.54 | Sylvester | i dont want the graphic application |
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| 12:21.06 | Sylvester | ok |
| 12:21.34 | Sylvester | i want to use the commands...thats more interesting dont u think? |
| 12:21.34 | streuner | You can use debian without any X too |
| 12:21.35 | war- | Qustion - After my recent apt-get upgrade (in Sarge), export GDK_USE_XFT=0 no longer works, ?? |
| 12:21.46 | PerfDave | Sylvester: #kurumin |
| 12:21.52 | Sylvester | #kurumin |
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| 12:22.27 | mathieu_ | war-, wasn't that only for gnome 2.0? |
| 12:22.39 | war- | mathieu_: it worked before last week (previous apt-get upgrade? ) :( |
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| 12:23.53 | _kaz | what does this error mean? /etc/network/interfaces:10: mislplaced option ifup: couldn't read interaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" |
| 12:24.03 | fidelcatsro | guys can i use nvidia kernel modules with reiser4, has anybody tried it?? |
| 12:24.15 | Shadur | _kaz: There's an error on line 10 of /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 12:24.18 | _kaz | afaik I am configuring the file according to the examples dpkg gives |
| 12:24.29 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: why should those 2 things conflict? |
| 12:24.31 | PerfDave | _kaz: It means you've got a misplaced option in your /etc/network/interfaces file, at a guess. Probably around line 10. |
| 12:24.38 | PerfDave | _kaz: man 5 interfaces |
| 12:24.45 | _kaz | right... but it looks perfect :( |
| 12:24.52 | jethro | hi debian |
| 12:24.57 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: cause i've tried compiling the mm-2.6.12 and nvidia-kernel refuses to install |
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| 12:25.04 | PerfDave | _kaz: ifup disagrees ;) |
| 12:25.22 | _kaz | line 10 = address 172.20.20.80 |
| 12:25.26 | PerfDave | fidelcatsro: That's a different kernel version, it's probably changed the ABI |
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| 12:25.36 | jasomja | hi |
| 12:25.48 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: well, 2.6.12-mm whatever doesnt work with nvidia, that has nothing to do with reiser4 |
| 12:25.48 | PerfDave | away |
| 12:25.57 | _kaz | line 9 fwiw = auto eth1 inet static |
| 12:25.59 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: but i dont know of a kernel version with reiser4 that is known to work with nvidia.. |
| 12:26.03 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: oh |
| 12:26.04 | jasomja | exist somewhere DR17 deb packages for x86 ? |
| 12:26.13 | PerfDave | _kaz: Uhm, that's wrong.man interfaces. |
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| 12:26.41 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: damn.. dont tell me it just cause mm has the gpl modules only thingo .. |
| 12:26.49 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: you can grab individual patches from -mm too, cant get any more unstable i suppose |
| 12:27.10 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: hmm sounds like a bit'o work |
| 12:27.24 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: now though, why the fuck would you use reiserfs4 or -mm? |
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| 12:30.07 | _kaz | I have read the mans... I don't understand how it's wrong |
| 12:30.07 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: -mm is the experimental tree, i doubt it even works properly on the majority of boxes out there |
| 12:30.08 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: reiser4 is so impressive i'm really really convinced in fact i feel opposed to switching back.. |
| 12:30.08 | PerfDave | _kaz: Read them again. Do you see any lines in the manpage which look like "auto eth1 inet static"? |
| 12:30.09 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: reiser4 has been very fast for me. particularly for untaring big tars with lots of small files quickly |
| 12:30.09 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: so grab the reiser4 patch, its not more work than grabbing the whole -mm patch |
| 12:30.09 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: benchmarks say that reiser4 isnt particularily fast with that, its not its main strength ) |
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| 12:30.11 | _kaz | blah. Ok got it now. 'iface' was missing from my earlier tries. |
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| 12:30.29 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: but whatever, download the reiser4 patch, patch your vanilla or whatever 2.6.12-rc1 and you should be good to go ( if nvidia works with 2.6.12-rc1 at all ) |
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| 12:31.16 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: there is no reiser4 patch |
| 12:31.26 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: namesys.com says to get mm |
| 12:31.28 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: sure there is |
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| 12:31.50 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: namesys.com says apply mm patch to 2.6 to 'install' |
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| 12:32.20 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: ok, if i check out mm sources there might be a reiser4 patch but it seems the development is integrated... |
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| 12:32.33 | fidelcatsro | valdyn: i'd love to eat my hat |
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| 12:34.39 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.12-rc1/2.6.12-rc1-mm4/broken-out/ |
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| 12:34.52 | Liquid_Byt3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.11 | valdyn | fidelcatsro: but did i say that yet, i dont think nvidia works even w/ plain 2.6.12-rc1 |
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| 12:35.49 | greg___ | Alleria: Hi |
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| 12:36.49 | drac | fglrx doesn't work with 2.6.12*, prolly the same reason nvidia won't work. again they changed so much agp related stuff :/ |
| 12:38.24 | greg___ | All:Hi |
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| 12:41.48 | leikh | i've read the man elinks and man elinks.conf, but none of them are helpful in guiding me to how i can do a command line dump of a html-page to given file. i've tried this: elinks -dump http://foobar.com/foo.html > dump.txt |
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| 12:42.04 | valdyn | drac: fglrx doesnt compile against 2.6.12 ? |
| 12:43.02 | resiak | "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
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| 12:43.03 | MikeH | hi, I have a machine that keeps randomly dieing, its in a datacentre, so i cant look at it, but i need to investigate into why it keeps dieing, wheres the best place to start? |
| 12:43.03 | resiak | MikeH: Your logs! |
| 12:43.17 | valdyn | MikeH: the logfiles |
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| 12:43.35 | graytron | MikeH: the files that contain the log |
| 12:44.08 | leikh | i have a machine that goes BING. is that good? |
| 12:44.19 | drac | valdyn: nope, and and not even against 2.6.11.* without a patch. |
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| 12:44.45 | valdyn | drac: ah, ok, nvidia compiles fine against 2.6.11 and 12, just didnt run on 12 for me |
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| 12:47.06 | mdke | right i have an apache question. I've installed apache2 and have put my documents in /var/www. everything works. However the browser does not get redirected to index.html, I have to put it in manually. This is despite the line "DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml" in my conf file. Can someone tell me what is going on here? |
| 12:47.16 | MikeH | graytron: what do i need to look for then? /var/log/messages doesnt have anything relating to it |
| 12:47.23 | MikeH | just shows what time it went down |
| 12:47.26 | MikeH | and came back up really |
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| 12:48.02 | inetd | mdke, you must restart apache2 after making that change |
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| 12:48.16 | mdke | inetd, i didn't make the change: it was in there by default |
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| 12:48.23 | mdke | and i've restarted a few times |
| 12:48.27 | valdyn | mdke: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ |
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| 12:49.22 | mdke | valdyn, ok i'm in there, do you know what I should look for? |
| 12:49.31 | citral | oops sorry |
| 12:49.38 | citral | forgot I was here |
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| 12:50.26 | MikeH | resiak? valdyn? |
| 12:50.30 | valdyn | mdke: the RedirectMatch, but you probably dont want to edit this file, but make a new one in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ and place a symlink |
| 12:50.41 | brake | gawk 'root/{print $1}' /etc/passwd. |
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| 12:50.50 | brake | why this command have no result? |
| 12:50.52 | tuxillo | hello |
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| 12:51.07 | brake | gawk 'root/{print $2}' /etc/passwd. |
| 12:51.09 | brake | why this command have no result? |
| 12:51.27 | amx | why cant i boot from the 1st iso CD? i must boot from 2nd? |
| 12:51.30 | brake | who help me? |
| 12:51.32 | mdke | valdyn, there is already a default file in sites-available, shall i use that? |
| 12:51.38 | inetd | brake, what are you trying to do? |
| 12:51.38 | tuxillo | I got just a strange problem. when I try to compile my nvidia driver and then I try to load nvidia.ko module I got this error "nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module". any clues? thank you! :) |
| 12:51.42 | chealer | amx: no, the first should boot |
| 12:51.50 | amx | doesnt boot on my laptop :( |
| 12:52.06 | chealer | amx: what CD is it exactly% |
| 12:52.14 | amx | i cant make a bootsrapper floppy either |
| 12:52.20 | valdyn | mdke: you can, but i would leave it as it is, copy it, adjust the copy and remove the default symlink in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ and put the appropriate symlink there |
| 12:52.31 | mdke | valdyn, right i c |
| 12:52.35 | mdke | crazy system |
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| 12:52.56 | inetd | amx, does it boot at all from cd ? (eg: boots halfway n stops) |
| 12:52.58 | mdke | valdyn, thanks |
| 12:53.00 | takatumi | amx: which iso? |
| 12:53.01 | amx | chealer: its the testing i386 testing iso |
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| 12:53.05 | amx | disc 1 |
| 12:53.12 | chealer | amx: that should boot |
| 12:53.16 | resiak | MikeH! |
| 12:53.16 | amx | damn |
| 12:53.19 | brake | look for the line contain root and print the 2nd field of this line! |
| 12:53.22 | amx | my system is too old? |
| 12:53.23 | resiak | MikeH: Read your log files. /var/log/ |
| 12:53.40 | amx | bios must not support linux bootable cd |
| 12:53.40 | MikeH | ok |
| 12:53.45 | markc | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:53.49 | resiak | MikeH: FI, kern.log |
| 12:54.02 | amx | im screwed? I dont have a fd |
| 12:54.09 | greg___ | Does the nvidia problem come from pci_disable_dev ? |
| 12:54.24 | brake | look for the line contain root and print the 2nd field of this line! |
| 12:54.24 | takatumi | amx: what error? where does it stop? |
| 12:54.35 | POVaddct | brake: grep -w root /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f2 |
| 12:54.47 | amx | takatumi: it just hangs, doesnt boot or do anything...long time, only restarting can free it |
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| 12:55.00 | markc | does sid = unstable ? |
| 12:55.16 | brake | i want to know why the gawk method have no result? |
| 12:55.21 | inetd | brake, grep root /etc/passwd | awk -F: '{print $2}' |
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| 12:55.31 | takatumi | amx: any other CDs boot? |
| 12:55.57 | amx | takatumi: i dont have anything else to test with unfortunately..i could try and download a DOS bootable cd image i guess |
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| 12:56.07 | valdyn | !tell markc about sid |
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| 12:56.23 | takatumi | amx: what kind of network do you have? |
| 12:56.27 | suid | hi @ all |
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| 12:56.54 | markc | valdyn> thank you...sid does = unstable, cool |
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| 12:57.12 | amx | takatumi: i have a small LAN with 750kb, but i cant put my laptop onto it yet as no network card |
| 12:57.21 | brake | gawk 'root/{print $2}' /etc/passwd. |
| 12:57.39 | brake | gawk 'root/{print $2}' /etc/passwd. have any wrong?? |
| 12:58.21 | POVaddct | brake: you forgot to set the separator char |
| 12:58.28 | POVaddct | awk -F: '/root/{print $2}' /etc/passwd |
| 12:58.34 | amx | maybe I should just get xfld live cd? |
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| 12:59.21 | brake | o i see!3x |
| 12:59.36 | markc | what is the "normal" arch for most pc's, x86 or i686 (where --arch is needed) ? |
| 12:59.37 | amx | takatumi: i wanted to put xfce on my lappy cuz it cant take KDE, its only P166 and 80mb/4GB |
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| 13:00.12 | takatumi | amx: with a network, you could try one of these. http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc3/ |
| 13:00.25 | markc | ah... it's --arch i386 |
| 13:00.26 | amx | cool |
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| 13:00.30 | amx | takatumi: thanks |
| 13:00.55 | amx | i guess i must be patient and wait until next week for network card |
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| 13:02.12 | amx | takatumi: you are Japanese? |
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| 13:04.18 | valdyn | markc: which program are you passing --arch to? |
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| 13:04.35 | brake | fuck japanese! |
| 13:04.58 | mdke | what package do I need to compile a very basic program (visitors)? i have no building tools |
| 13:05.23 | valdyn | !b-e mdke |
| 13:05.24 | dpkg | mdke: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 13:05.33 | inetd | in VI how do i copy a char under cursor and paste it in : mode |
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| 13:05.39 | P_o_P | hi |
| 13:05.41 | mdke | valdyn, ty |
| 13:05.49 | brake | how can i count the totle size of files in a directory? |
| 13:06.04 | Ferret | "!b-e mdke" "build-essential" are only six characters different. |
| 13:06.04 | valdyn | brake: ls | wc -l |
| 13:06.13 | Ferret | Seems to me the one on the right might be easier to type. |
| 13:06.14 | mdke | Ferret, yeah |
| 13:06.20 | brake | ls -l|tee -s |cut -d"" -f5 |
| 13:06.29 | P_o_P | Someone have already install a netgear GA311 gigabit eth on his debian ? if yes can u help me |
| 13:06.40 | Ferret | brake: du -sh * ? |
| 13:06.42 | brake | no .i want the totle size of files |
| 13:06.47 | greg___ | inted: y (yank) => change to new place p (pu) |
| 13:06.53 | Ferret | or replace * with ., or use -t ... |
| 13:06.54 | resiak | brake: du -sh . |
| 13:06.56 | greg___ | inted: y (yank) => change to new place p (put) |
| 13:07.08 | valdyn | brake: ops, ignore that. "du -h" is better |
| 13:07.19 | inetd | grep: yanking dont work when i am in : mode |
| 13:07.23 | resiak | Ferret: Actually, !b-e mdke is seven characters, not 9, since you can do !b-e m<TAB> . |
| 13:07.29 | brake | o .have a try! |
| 13:07.34 | greg___ | inetd: change mode |
| 13:07.47 | inetd | greg___, im in : mode (console even) |
| 13:07.55 | mdke | trying doing m TAB to get me |
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| 13:08.19 | idnar | mdke: it works just great for me |
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| 13:08.28 | resiak | mdke: If your IRC client is sane, you'll be the last one in the tab list for m<TAB>. |
| 13:08.37 | greg___ | inted: mode : => send operation to vim ? |
| 13:08.40 | idnar | resiak: you mean the first one? |
| 13:08.44 | mdke | mine does it in alphabetical order |
| 13:08.54 | Ferret | resiak: Well, 1) I wouldn't tab on one character in a channel this big, even if it does actually happen to work, and 2) touch typing is probably easier, avoiding non-alpha-numeric characters. |
| 13:09.05 | inetd | greg___, yeap |
| 13:09.11 | resiak | idnar: No, I mean the last one. He's more likely to want to address any other person than himself. |
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| 13:09.14 | greg___ | inetd: strange ? |
| 13:09.24 | idnar | resiak: oh, you meant for him; I see |
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| 13:09.35 | resiak | Ferret: irssi is smart with tabbing. I don't know what client _you're_ using, but I know that m<TAB> works just fine for me. |
| 13:09.41 | mdke | wow |
| 13:09.47 | mdke | what about all the other m*s? |
| 13:09.47 | Ferret | resiak: You didn't read what I said. |
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| 13:10.03 | idnar | mdke: you were the last one to speak |
| 13:10.08 | greg___ | intetd: ESC write requested character cut and put |
| 13:10.09 | mdke | that is clever |
| 13:10.11 | netbrain | what is the standard size of a packet? |
| 13:10.14 | mdke | xchat doesn't do that |
| 13:10.21 | resiak | Ferret: I did read what you said, and !b-e foo is faster if you sit on this channel a lot and have that hard-wired into your fingers ;) |
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| 13:11.51 | P_o_P | GA311 problem in syslog i can see : "NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0; transmit timed out" someone has an idea plz ? |
| 13:12.13 | sussudio | !any ideas |
| 13:12.13 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of ground beef, a little sauerkraut, and a dozen sex-crazed goats. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 13:12.14 | sussudio | !plz |
| 13:12.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, plz is german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel. L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
| 13:12.26 | takatumi | !sing sussudio |
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| 13:13.28 | netbrain | how many bytes are there in 1 packet? |
| 13:13.39 | sussudio | 12 |
| 13:13.56 | brake | how to merge many space to one?? use tee command |
| 13:13.58 | Karhuton | "iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP --protocol tcp --dport 0:1023" but I can still nmap my eth0 and find ssh open and connect to it even. |
| 13:14.11 | trentbuck | I'm having trouble setting up a NIS master+client under Debian. |
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| 13:14.39 | sussudio | Karhuton: you have to flush your rules first. |
| 13:15.05 | brake | how to merge many space to one?? use tee command |
| 13:15.06 | Karhuton | sussudio, iptables -F INPUT && <then that command> |
| 13:15.29 | sussudio | Karhuton: if you're doing it from the same computer, it's not happening on eth0 |
| 13:15.38 | nessuno | after i used apt-get dist-upgrade, can't run xserver as normal user. Anyone can help me ? |
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| 13:15.45 | trentbuck | I have "ypserver 127.0.0.1" in /etc/yp.conf, but ypbind can't find the server. |
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| 13:16.32 | Karhuton | sussudio, but I thought it used eth0 if I connected to my eth0 address and not lo |
| 13:17.00 | sussudio | Karhuton: you never go through eth0 if it's local to local |
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| 13:17.50 | Karhuton | Ok mind trying "telnet 85.76.11.85 22" ? |
| 13:18.03 | sussudio | Karhuton: ssh is showing up as 'filtered' when i nmap port 22 |
| 13:18.10 | sussudio | 22/tcp filtered ssh |
| 13:19.05 | greg___ | nessuno: See /etc/X11/Xwrapper => allowed_users may be |
| 13:20.05 | mdke | right I've now installed build-essential and I am trying to compile visitors. I get the following error |
| 13:20.08 | Karhuton | sussudio, ok as long as it works. Thank you. |
| 13:20.12 | mdke | checking for pcre_compile in -lpcre... no |
| 13:20.12 | mdke | checking for pcre_compile... no |
| 13:20.12 | mdke | configure: error: Cannot find the pcre library. |
| 13:20.20 | mdke | can anyone help? |
| 13:20.46 | drac | mdke: apt-cache search pcre | grep dev |
| 13:20.51 | sussudio | Karhuton: you can have your ports scanned at http://www.grc.com/ shieldsup |
| 13:20.51 | resiak | mdke: Oh, perhaps, maybe, you might need the pcre library. |
| 13:21.10 | drac | mdke: or grep lib, and install those. |
| 13:21.10 | mdke | drac, thanks |
| 13:21.10 | greg___ | mdke: apt-get install libpcre3-dev |
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| 13:21.10 | drac | mdke: or one of them, the correct one. |
| 13:21.10 | mdke | resiak, thanks for nothing |
| 13:21.10 | resiak | mdke: And quit pasting. |
| 13:21.15 | mdke | greg_, ty |
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| 13:21.53 | nessuno | greg_, it's seem ok: allowed_users=anybody |
| 13:22.11 | brake | what is the difference between gawk and awk?? |
| 13:22.19 | greg___ | nessuno: allowed_users=console if user from console |
| 13:22.29 | nessuno | ok |
| 13:22.50 | pif | hi, where do I configure firefox's default mailer with debian? |
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| 13:23.04 | pif | It insists in launching evolution instead of thunderbird |
| 13:23.08 | resiak | pif: It follows Gnome's setting, I think. |
| 13:23.17 | pif | which would be much more logical |
| 13:23.46 | pif | but I'm not using gnome, only a lighweight wm: openbox |
| 13:23.53 | mdke | greg___, drac ok now even graver difficulty: configure: error: Cannot find the db library. There are millions of such packages!! do you know which i need? |
| 13:23.58 | pif | so I should look in gedit? |
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| 13:24.03 | resiak | pif: I'm using Openbox too. I'm just trying to figure out how to get to the Gnomish control panel. |
| 13:24.09 | jono | any brits here? |
| 13:24.12 | resiak | jono: Yes. |
| 13:24.17 | mdke | jono, yes |
| 13:24.18 | resiak | jono: Loads of us. |
| 13:24.21 | jono | cool |
| 13:24.24 | greg___ | mdke: libberkeleydb, search in debian package I think |
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| 13:24.46 | resiak | pif: Run gnome-default-application-properties, if you have it installed. |
| 13:24.47 | CyberShadow | can I somehow force all disk write buffers to flush? |
| 13:24.51 | jono | I am one of the members of LUGRadio, and we are running an event on June 25th in Wolverhampton called LUGRadio Live - we would like to offer Debian a free exhibition stand at the event |
| 13:24.54 | pif | resiak : ok |
| 13:24.56 | mdke | greg___, could it be libberkeleydb-perl - use Berkeley DB 4 databases from Perl? |
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| 13:25.22 | greg___ | mdke : libdb4.2-dev for example |
| 13:25.47 | resiak | jono: I don't know where the best place to offer that would be, to be honest. |
| 13:25.53 | jono | resiak, oh I see |
| 13:25.58 | nessuno | greg_, i tried, make no difference. Xserver run for few second ad immediatly shut down :( |
| 13:26.11 | mdke | greg___, ok thanks again, am trying. You know if I can uninstall these libraries again after compiling visitors? |
| 13:26.12 | jono | resiak, are you on the mailing lists? |
| 13:26.13 | her0 | if i telnet my server on port 25(smtp) ,it works fine, but when i start with mail from:<test@test.com> it doesnt reply anymore..is this normal? :o |
| 13:26.22 | nessuno | as root it work |
| 13:26.27 | resiak | jono: I'm not, I'm afraid. |
| 13:26.35 | jono | ahhh I see |
| 13:26.42 | pif | resiak: in what file are these prefs stored? |
| 13:26.50 | greg___ | nessuno: I see, I'm not sure to upgrade xserver actually |
| 13:26.54 | resiak | pif: Probably somewhere deep inside the gconf database. |
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| 13:27.03 | resiak | jono: There must be a Right List somewhere, though. |
| 13:27.04 | jono | resiak, are you gonna come to LUGRadio Live ? its gonna be fun : www.lugradio.org/live |
| 13:27.07 | greg___ | nessuno: :) |
| 13:27.13 | nessuno | :((( |
| 13:27.18 | brake | what is the difference between gawk and awk?? |
| 13:27.19 | pif | SET AUTO_RESPONSE_STR vindex cunctator mito pif |
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| 13:27.22 | pif | ooops |
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| 13:27.32 | resiak | jono: If it's not during my exams, then yeah. |
| 13:27.39 | jono | resiak, awesome :) |
| 13:27.53 | brake | what is the difference between gawk and awk?? |
| 13:28.05 | greg___ | mdke: Yes the '*'-dev package |
| 13:28.17 | Di``` | I need some help to findo anything that help me to install promise 378, using debian sarge 2.6. I'm in the Partition Disks and i see my two disks, but if i'm using one Array of disks in the fastbuild utility, it would have show just ONE disks, right ? |
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| 13:28.49 | nessuno | anyone are using evilwm here ? |
| 13:28.59 | mdke | greg___, libdb4.2-dev didn't do it |
| 13:29.03 | greg___ | brake: GNU Project's implementation of the AWK programming language => man gawk |
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| 13:29.12 | resiak | jono: debian-user might be the right list. But I really don't know. Sorry. :) |
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| 13:29.18 | greg___ | mdke: read INSTALL file |
| 13:29.28 | mdke | k |
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| 13:29.52 | brake | fuck japanese!! |
| 13:30.04 | brake | oh ,i see .thanks! |
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| 13:30.41 | mdke | greg___, the README file seems to be the only helpful one, it just says: "This package requires the Perl PCRE lib's and the Berkeley DB libs. |
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| 13:31.04 | Di``` | maybe i need to set up partitions exacly the same in both ? |
| 13:31.17 | greg___ | mdke: install other berkeley version => db2, db 4.1 db4.2 or db4.3 |
| 13:31.25 | mdke | i'll try |
| 13:31.48 | mdke | greg___, it says on the website that it is built with 4 but might work with earlier versions |
| 13:32.05 | greg___ | mdke: 4.0 or 4.1 |
| 13:32.30 | websdale | jono:there's a list called debian-events-eu@lists.debian.org which might be the one |
| 13:32.56 | Di``` | hello ? |
| 13:33.01 | websdale | on the website contact page |
| 13:33.07 | jono | websdale, thanks :) |
| 13:33.23 | websdale | jono:keep up the good work:) |
| 13:33.30 | jono | websdale, oh, thanks :) |
| 13:33.51 | brake | Elad hi |
| 13:33.52 | quannum_ | i upgraded debian, it doesnt reconize my fonts anymore, they are very big and ugly, some one knows about this issue ? |
| 13:34.36 | mdke | greg___, 4.1 ng so far. Do you think i need the ++ version? |
| 13:34.57 | greg___ | mdke: I don't know visitor |
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| 13:35.04 | brake | how to let a person see my words is red color? |
| 13:35.11 | viyyer | I am trying to configure jabber just installed.. my checks work fine when I run "jabberd -D" and .. use telnet.. it works fine. but it doesn't work with gaim. and also "/etc/init.d/jabberd start" fails |
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| 13:35.33 | inetd | hmm..in VIM how do i replace all matches of char under cursor with something? |
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| 13:36.11 | sphere | inetd: #vim |
| 13:36.34 | greg___ | mdke: where is the visitors site ? |
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| 13:36.44 | brake | how to let a person see my words is red color? |
| 13:36.48 | mdke | greg___, http://www.stedee.id.au/visitors/ |
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| 13:37.30 | mdke | libdb4.1++-dev also ng |
| 13:37.51 | inetd | d |
| 13:38.00 | inetd | d |
| 13:38.17 | inetd | d |
| 13:38.51 | inetd | brake, press control+k3whateva you wanna type |
| 13:39.48 | brake | how to let a person see my words is red color? |
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| 13:41.29 | resiak | brake: Why are you repeating? |
| 13:41.41 | mdke | he's trying to get it in red |
| 13:41.52 | mdke | greg___, looks like v3 has done the trick |
| 13:42.01 | paulswm | bold red maybe |
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| 13:42.11 | nessuno | is it possibile to downgrade after used apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 13:42.20 | Shorty` | hey guys, is there any way in a while script, to insert a value as the NEXT value in a keyed array? |
| 13:42.23 | resiak | brake: Like this? |
| 13:42.27 | Shorty` | as in, append to one? |
| 13:42.42 | quannum_ | i upgraded debian, it doesnt reconize my fonts anymore, they are very big and ugly, some one knows about this issue ? |
| 13:42.42 | resiak | Shorty`: #whateverlangaugeyou'reusing |
| 13:42.50 | resiak | quannum_: Define "upgraded". |
| 13:42.59 | Shorty` | oh shit |
| 13:43.00 | Shorty` | ahah |
| 13:43.01 | Shorty` | wrong channel |
| 13:43.03 | Shorty` | sorry guys |
| 13:43.16 | Shorty` | *too many channels*& |
| 13:43.31 | greg___ | mdke : sounds good |
| 13:43.39 | treestone | nobody er, nessuno: No, there's no mechanism available for doing that, except manually and that is living hell. |
| 13:43.46 | Shorty` | I can't even *read* what channel I'm in, I've got so many open |
| 13:43.47 | mdke | greg_, damn it didn't build tho |
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| 13:44.27 | mdke | http://pastebin.ca/8667 |
| 13:44.35 | mdke | i might just give up and use a packaged log analyser |
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| 13:44.53 | quannum_ | resiak, i just upgraded my installed packages to the last versions out |
| 13:45.02 | resiak | quannum_: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 13:45.02 | quannum_ | with apt-get update/upgrade |
| 13:45.08 | quannum_ | debian sarge |
| 13:45.15 | quannum_ | netinstall |
| 13:45.26 | resiak | quannum_: And you logged out and in, and your fonts are now retarded? What WM/DE are you using? |
| 13:45.31 | quannum_ | i heard some other people had the same problem |
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| 13:45.42 | quannum_ | resiak yep, fluxbox |
| 13:45.48 | greg___ | nessuno: xserver contains all dependance I think |
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| 13:46.54 | nessuno | ok, tnx |
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| 13:46.57 | hdkiller__ | Anybody knows, how to run Rangarok Online under linux, whit wine or cedega? I tired both, and googled etc, and i saw posts and screenshots about it's working. But my version cann't download the patches from the server. I sniffed the connection, and i saw it's connect to home via FTP do a LIST but don't try to GET... |
| 13:47.23 | resiak | quannum_: Out of interest, if you log in as a different/new user, is everything still messed up? |
| 13:47.56 | hdkiller__ | Err, sorry, I forgot about #cedega, please ignore my question... |
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| 13:48.49 | quannum_ | resiak, yep |
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| 13:49.36 | resiak | quannum_: Have you checked the BTS? Are fonts messed up in all applications or only those that use (say) GTK? |
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| 13:50.02 | hja123 | how to save only messages I have read online for offline reading |
| 13:50.15 | hja123 | sorry, in thunderbird |
| 13:50.53 | resiak | hja123: ...why not read its help files, or go to a thunderbird IRC channel? |
| 13:51.14 | takatumi | thought it does that by default. |
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| 13:51.39 | hja123 | i am using thundrbird in debian |
| 13:51.46 | quannum_ | resiak, my fluxbox menu's , dont know if fluxbox uses gtk, but gtk is the problem |
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| 13:52.04 | quannum_ | i heard someone say the upgrade has turned font hinting on |
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| 13:52.19 | hja123 | any thunderbird channel you know of? |
| 13:52.36 | takatumi | quannum_: tried dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig? |
| 13:52.37 | brake | resiak yes jusk like that how to do? |
| 13:52.44 | resiak | hja123: Not a clue, sorry. |
| 13:52.47 | brake | how to let a person see my words is red color? |
| 13:52.48 | mdke | i just removed "build-essential" but it has only removed the metapackage, not the real packages. Deborphan shows nothing? How can i rid myself of this? anyone know? |
| 13:53.05 | brake | hello everyone |
| 13:53.12 | takatumi | hja123: you could try on irc.mozilla.org |
| 13:53.16 | warp | hello, is there a tutorial or some other doc somewhere on how to create a debian package? |
| 13:53.24 | resiak | brake: ^C[number]text . If you use it here, you'll probably be screamed at. |
| 13:53.32 | takatumi | !nm guide |
| 13:53.33 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide contains an introductory tutorial on the art of making Debian packages. It is located at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 13:53.45 | warp | takatumi: ooh, thanks. |
| 13:54.05 | resiak | mdke: Using aptitude rather than apt-get is one way, but takes some setting up. |
| 13:54.16 | hja123 | thanks, takatumi |
| 13:54.22 | mdke | resiak, is there no other way? i like apt-get |
| 13:54.40 | resiak | mdke: debfoster? |
| 13:54.50 | mdke | i haven't used that before, i'll try it |
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| 13:55.06 | resiak | mdke: Or just look at what b-e depends on and remove those. |
| 13:55.11 | resiak | mdke: The choices are endless! |
| 13:55.16 | mdke | well |
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| 13:55.20 | mdke | ok |
| 13:55.24 | resiak | :) |
| 13:55.46 | pngwn | brake, is a dipshit |
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| 13:56.45 | brake | what is mean dipshit?? |
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| 13:57.03 | pngwn | brake, not too bright |
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| 13:57.26 | brake | what is mean dipshit?? |
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| 13:57.40 | resiak | brake: It means you're an idiot, but in less polite terms. |
| 13:57.42 | takatumi | !dict dipshit |
| 13:57.45 | dpkg | could not find definition for dipshit |
| 13:57.48 | brake | my first language is not english! |
| 13:57.53 | kuru- | does the blade iso have support for the e1000 card? |
| 13:58.06 | takatumi | brake: it doesn't mean anything, move on. |
| 13:58.11 | kristoffer | when i give people shells/accounts on my server (im a newbie yes) one annoying thing is that as for example, if i add a user "celda", that user can cd to /home/anotheruser and dir/ls etc in that folder, how can i restrict access to the user, so that they can only move around in there own /home/celda |
| 13:58.16 | quannum_ | takatumi, it is fixed now |
| 13:58.20 | kuru- | i'm tired of trying to compile the 2.6.11 kernel and it failing at the 'make modules_install' |
| 13:58.23 | kristoffer | i know i can be mutch to explane, but what do i search for on google to read about it? |
| 13:58.24 | quannum_ | omg ,!! thanks alot!!!!!!! |
| 13:58.25 | resiak | kristoffer: man chmod |
| 13:58.26 | pothead | kristoffer: man chmod |
| 13:58.39 | kristoffer | ok |
| 13:58.45 | takatumi | !ep |
| 13:58.45 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:58.50 | kuru- | resiak, i declare you winner of the butterfinger ;) |
| 13:58.55 | kristoffer | thx, il read and read some more :P |
| 13:59.11 | resiak | kuru-: ...you what? |
| 13:59.24 | kuru- | resiak, bah.. you came out faster than pothead's 'man chmod' |
| 13:59.43 | markc | ae there a kde 3.4 debs anywhere ? |
| 13:59.51 | kuru- | now now.. will someone tell me if they know what's inside the blade netinst xfs boot thingmagig or do I have to try it out for myself like a real user? ;) |
| 13:59.54 | resiak | kuru-: I'm used to typing that. |
| 13:59.58 | resiak | !topicsmite markc |
| 13:59.59 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon markc. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 13:59.59 | streuner | markc: /list #debian-kde |
| 14:00.09 | resiak | !giyf markc |
| 14:00.12 | resiak | :( |
| 14:00.32 | kuru- | I just got me a nice little thinkpad t41p |
| 14:00.37 | streuner | What's the command in 'screen' to switch? |
| 14:00.41 | kuru- | and it really sucks not to have network here |
| 14:00.56 | kuru- | bob2`, if you're there, thanks for your help, it helped me make a purchase decision. |
| 14:00.57 | markc | oh yeah, RTFT... must remember to do that |
| 14:01.16 | takatumi | streuner: switch what? |
| 14:01.20 | kuru- | resolution is badass |
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| 14:01.48 | streuner | takatumi: to different windows |
| 14:02.02 | etemplin | Hi |
| 14:02.06 | takatumi | streuner: C-a n or C-a " |
| 14:02.17 | etemplin | C-a-n |
| 14:02.29 | kuru- | I guess no one uses a machine with e1000? |
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| 14:02.53 | jetair | e1000 netcard? |
| 14:02.56 | etemplin | how do you logout? |
| 14:02.58 | liable | fresh install, cant seem to download 2.6.10 kernel with firefox, but wget works. Anyone know if its a firefox bug or what. |
| 14:03.07 | takatumi | streuner: or C-a # |
| 14:03.21 | resiak | streuner: or C-a <space> |
| 14:03.21 | etemplin | logout |
| 14:03.21 | streuner | takatumi: thanks |
| 14:03.22 | kuru- | jetair, yeah.. I'm trying to figure out what iso to get.. something minimalistic but has e1000 support in addition to xfs (preferably) |
| 14:03.28 | resiak | liable: ... why on earth would you download it with either? |
| 14:03.59 | valdyn | kuru-: a standard sarge installer supports it |
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| 14:04.20 | liable | resiak: running sarge and easier to just download the deb than stuff around |
| 14:04.22 | kuru- | valdyn, ok, cause I'm grabbing sarge-i386-netinst.iso right now |
| 14:04.28 | valdyn | kuru-: fine |
| 14:04.31 | jetair | kuru-,I just have used a pc using e1000,installed debian sarge on ext3 |
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| 14:04.38 | resiak | !tell liable -about simple sid/sarge mix |
| 14:04.46 | s1gm4x | yo dudes how can i change my kernel headers in debian i am having compilation problems |
| 14:04.47 | resiak | liable: But fair enough. |
| 14:05.10 | streuner | s1gm4x: apt-get install kernel-headers-2.x.x? |
| 14:05.13 | valdyn | s1gm4x: apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 14:05.24 | liable | resiak: its the only thing I want from unstable |
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| 14:05.56 | kuru- | jetair, yeah I'm trying to avoid ext3.. reiserfs or xfs (xfs preferrably).. so I'll just go with the sarge netinst then. |
| 14:06.01 | resiak | liable: Why do you want it, out of interest? |
| 14:06.05 | kuru- | it's taking its time though.. downloading at 224KB/sec |
| 14:06.07 | resiak | kuru-: Do you have a UPS? |
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| 14:06.23 | s1gm4x | thanks but i am having problems installing a software that reads a bad kernel headers , i am running kernel 2.6.10-486 but the softwarre says that my kernel headers are 2.6.10-586 and thats from a prior installation ... :( |
| 14:06.25 | valdyn | resiak: its a notebook |
| 14:06.31 | resiak | valdyn: Ah. |
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| 14:06.34 | valdyn | resiak: unless he unplugs his battery - yes he does |
| 14:06.42 | jetair | kuru-,ic |
| 14:06.50 | liable | resiak: ibm-acpi and suspend2 which I will patch |
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| 14:06.57 | streuner | s1gm4x: so remove the other headers or point to the right ones |
| 14:07.05 | resiak | liable: That's fair enough. :) |
| 14:07.20 | s1gm4x | what files should i change ? |
| 14:07.22 | liable | :) |
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| 14:08.00 | kuru- | resiak, UPS? why? |
| 14:08.04 | kuru- | resiak, this is for my notebook |
| 14:08.42 | valdyn | kuru-: notebook battery = UPS |
| 14:08.46 | resiak | kuru-: Sure, I discovered that -- sorry. It's just that XFS aggressively caches data in RAM on the assumption that you will always have time to sync and umount cleanly, so sudden power loss can cause horrific data loss. |
| 14:08.48 | s1gm4x | I mean what files shoul i move in order to change the linking to my current kernel-headers ..... |
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| 14:08.49 | streuner | s1gm4x: why do you need kernel-headers at all? |
| 14:09.05 | kuru- | resiak, how about reiserfs then? |
| 14:09.16 | s1gm4x | I am installing a software that needs to compile to my current kernel headers |
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| 14:09.32 | valdyn | kuru-: at least I _want_ to massively cache data, to avoid wasting power with the harddisk |
| 14:09.51 | valdyn | kuru-: though you dont need xfs for that, its not a bad thing to have |
| 14:09.54 | resiak | kuru-: Not a clue WRT UPS-assumption, but I hear very bad things about it. Bear in mind that I have a PC with no UPS that uses XFS, so ... :) |
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| 14:10.00 | streuner | s1gm4x: usually you need kernel-headers for compiling addtional modules, why did you software? |
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| 14:10.07 | streuner | s1gm4x: say* |
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| 14:10.42 | kuru- | resiak/valdyn, well, in this case the deciding factor is availability.. since xfs is less available by default than reiserfs, reiserfs wins this round ;) |
| 14:10.46 | s1gm4x | yup sorry i am installing a vmware module and it doesnt find the right kernel headers |
| 14:10.56 | resiak | kuru-: ...no, XFS is available by default. |
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| 14:11.02 | korrekt | what does "nonus" mean? i see it on one of the isos that i've downloaded (yes, i'm totally new on linux) |
| 14:11.21 | resiak | kuru-: You need an ext? /boot partition to use Grub, but you need one of those for Reiser too. |
| 14:11.33 | valdyn | korrekt: it means "software that cannot legally be exported from the US at time of release" |
| 14:11.35 | idimmoo | korrekt non-us ? |
| 14:11.37 | genix | Am I using any KDE applications at all if I'm using GNOME? |
| 14:11.43 | valdyn | s/cannot/could not/ |
| 14:11.44 | streuner | s1gm4x: just install the right kernel-headers for your kernel, vmware should be able to find those then. |
| 14:11.55 | PerfDave | genix: You can be. |
| 14:12.00 | resiak | genix: Depends if you're running any. |
| 14:12.26 | Putiikki | can i update from testing to unstable in same way as from stable to testing? |
| 14:12.31 | korrekt | valdyn: ok, thank you |
| 14:12.33 | valdyn | korrekt: you may want to use "sarge" not "woody" |
| 14:12.35 | genix | PerfDave: Give me an example of a KDE application that is common used in GNOME |
| 14:12.36 | resiak | Putiikki: If you have to ask, you shouldn't. But yes. |
| 14:12.40 | resiak | genix: k3b |
| 14:12.47 | PerfDave | genix: No idea, I don't use Gnome. |
| 14:12.48 | Putiikki | resiak: thanks |
| 14:12.55 | valdyn | !tell korrekt about woody |
| 14:12.59 | genix | PerfDave: ok |
| 14:13.01 | resiak | !tell Putiikki -about sid faq |
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| 14:13.11 | genix | resiak: ok |
| 14:13.46 | kuru- | i wonder if it will boot from a cdrw |
| 14:14.00 | Liquid_Byt3 | hey im having some problems with bootsplash,, can someone help me |
| 14:14.07 | streuner | kuru-: that shouldn't be problem at all |
| 14:14.10 | Liquid_Byt3 | a error number 10 is given |
| 14:14.17 | valdyn | kuru-: sure |
| 14:14.18 | kuru- | streuner, yeah but i have a dell over here that failed with one |
| 14:14.39 | chrysopa | Hi, I have a cdrw that I can erase in a computer but dont erase in another. Why? |
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| 14:15.06 | kuru- | maybe that explains the failures of the compiles/installs |
| 14:15.18 | valdyn | kuru-: default sarge is 3.3 |
| 14:15.35 | kuru- | valdyn, well, i'm still trying to avoid re-installing.. i got woody 3.0r1 installed |
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| 14:16.05 | kuru- | valdyn, I hate re-installing ;) |
| 14:16.13 | kuru- | but anyhow, about to go for it now |
| 14:16.16 | kuru- | finally got burnt |
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| 14:16.49 | JRWR | can anyone tell me CHEAP Dial-up (56k) as i have netzero and would like one to work with debian ilive in Fenton,Missouri USA |
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| 14:17.21 | kuru- | ok, time to unplug network from here |
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| 14:18.42 | brake | brook hi |
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| 14:19.42 | brake | brake hihi |
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| 14:20.53 | PerfDave | Bouncysnuts! |
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| 14:21.09 | takatumi | SnouncyButs |
| 14:21.11 | streuner | !lart bigpond.net.au for not allowing dyn. IP mail-server to deliver mails |
| 14:21.23 | loadd77 | does someone of you guys can tell me where i can find netpacket for perl in the debian package tree? |
| 14:21.47 | streuner | !tell loadd77 about search |
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| 14:22.31 | brake | brook ka kao |
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| 14:23.10 | TheAlchemist | re |
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| 14:24.09 | gabelux | has anyone tried to install DC++ with CrossOffice? |
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| 14:25.08 | resiak | !info dcgui sarge |
| 14:25.09 | loadd77 | man i know the command streuner but it like the Net::pcap == libnet-bla-bla.deb for debian so i search the netpacket for perl but what is the correspondent for debian? |
| 14:25.24 | brake | resiak sorry! |
| 14:25.25 | dpkg | dcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 463 kB, Installed size: 1376 kB |
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| 14:25.43 | resiak | gabelux: Why not just use that? ^^ |
| 14:25.51 | gabelux | don't want that |
| 14:26.01 | resiak | ...right. |
| 14:26.13 | gabelux | the fact is that i want to install Strong DC++ |
| 14:26.44 | takatumi | have you guys seen this? http://gpoppy.org/2005-04-02-101432_1024x768_scrot.png |
| 14:26.44 | gabelux | with dc-gui i cant downoad from users how have hash |
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| 14:26.55 | resiak | gabelux: Have you tried using stock Wine, rather than Crossover? |
| 14:26.56 | Hell-Man | hmm.. hur installerar man RAR i linux.. laddat hem den och packat upp den läste readme.. men de står inget om installation |
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| 14:28.14 | streuner | Hell-Man: talk english, my swedish is pure ;-) |
| 14:28.15 | Hell-Man | opps srry wrong channel |
| 14:28.26 | treestone | Hell-Man: Much easier to just do 'apt-cache search rar|grep -w rar' and install one or more of those. |
| 14:28.45 | Hell-Man | oki |
| 14:28.47 | Hell-Man | thx |
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| 14:34.38 | cHaPlinux | how to record one boot of floppy, for COMPACT DISC? |
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| 14:35.31 | treestone | cHaPlinux: Do you mean how to create a boot-image to use as a starting point for making a bootable CD? |
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| 14:35.51 | cHaPlinux | Treebeard, yes |
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| 14:38.13 | treestone | cHaPlinux: I've done that, but unfortunately I'm not able to give an easy explanation.. it's been a while.. I did a lot of googling, but in principle you can do it by making a bootable floppy, dd'ing that image to a file, and read up on mkisofs for how to specify the parameters. "El Torito" is something to start with at google. |
| 14:38.14 | cHaPlinux | Treebeard, I already created the image of boot of the floppy, but k3b does not recognize the image. :( |
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| 14:38.25 | Croepha | how can i search a set of ftp/http and samba sites.. not on the internet? |
| 14:38.43 | treestone | cHaPlinux: What does 'file boot.image' (or whatever) say? |
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| 14:40.07 | treestone | Croepha: What do you mean 'not on the internet'? Is it a local net? Because if you're not networked you can't do it.. |
| 14:40.30 | genix | How do I take screenshots and paste them in The GIMP? |
| 14:40.36 | Croepha | treestone: yea.. a lan |
| 14:40.47 | proc | genix: import and open-dialog? ;) |
| 14:40.53 | Croepha | i want like a search engine |
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| 14:41.04 | asg | Croepha: look at htdig or mnogosearch |
| 14:41.32 | timo | genix, File -> Acquire -> Screen Shot in GIMP |
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| 14:42.27 | cHaPlinux | treestone, I want to make a bootable CD, with the data of boot of the floppy. |
| 14:42.58 | dexter_ | how do i update the nvidia drivers? I mean, are they in the package database? (I didn't find it= |
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| 14:42.59 | treestone | cHaPlinux: Yesyes, but you said k3b didn't like that boot image.. verify with the 'file' command that it actually is a valid x86 boot image. |
| 14:43.01 | irreverentrevere | I have a suspend key on my keyboard that doesnt show an event in "xev" but i have been told that using apci i can map that key to something. Where do i start to work on that? |
| 14:43.22 | genix | timo: saw that, I would like to use shortcuts only (Print Scrn, go to The GIMP and Ctrl+V) but that does not work, is there another way to do this? |
| 14:43.25 | asg | irreverentrevere: man acpid |
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| 14:43.51 | irreverentrevere | asg, thank you much |
| 14:43.54 | asg | irreverentrevere: you're welcome |
| 14:44.03 | liable | irreverentrevere: laptop? |
| 14:44.16 | cHaPlinux | treestone, I used this command: dd if=/floppy of=/home/chaplinux/boot.img |
| 14:44.16 | timo | genix, doubt it |
| 14:44.29 | irreverentrevere | liable yeah |
| 14:44.31 | genix | timo: ok |
| 14:44.35 | cHaPlinux | treestone, I used this command: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/chaplinux/boot.img |
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| 14:45.14 | kuru- | nice.. sarge installed beautifully |
| 14:45.19 | treestone | cHaPlinux: Another thing: That floppy boot image needs to contain everything necessary to actually read the rest of the CD, i.e. CD drivers. Just to be clear. For example, it works fine to use any bootable MS-dos floppy as boot image, but it won't make a useful CD. |
| 14:45.22 | liable | irreverentrevere: what? |
| 14:45.25 | kuru- | still waiting for it to download a trillion gigs worth of packages |
| 14:45.31 | kuru- | this is gonna take another full hour |
| 14:45.32 | kuru- | jeez |
| 14:45.42 | irreverentrevere | liable dell inspiron 5150 |
| 14:45.51 | kuru- | didn't know that it was gonna install gnome and debian and just about every package there is |
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| 14:46.14 | kuru- | i think there should be a 'minimal desktop machine' option |
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| 14:46.23 | kuru- | get me fluxbox and I'm happy |
| 14:46.36 | asg | kuru-: there is, you install x-window-system or x-window-core and don't use tasksel |
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| 14:46.53 | liable | irreverentrevere: sorry dont know about dells |
| 14:47.04 | irreverentrevere | liable thats ok, thanks anyway |
| 14:47.09 | cHaPlinux | treestone, Boot for LTSP. |
| 14:47.10 | alexskan | is there any way to increase/decrease volume on alsa mixer via keybindings? |
| 14:47.16 | xlars | Hi, I have a question for a gcc guru. Is this a right place to ask it ? |
| 14:47.22 | asg | xlars: try #c |
| 14:47.25 | liable | irreverentrevere: np |
| 14:47.28 | xlars | ok |
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| 14:47.56 | treestone | cHaPlinux: Linux terminal server project? I'm not familiar with that, sorry. |
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| 14:48.47 | genix | kuru-: "tasksel --task-package desktop" |
| 14:48.59 | kuru- | asg, yeah, I broke out of it and installing it manually |
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| 14:49.07 | kuru- | I just didn't wanna spend a lot of time picking things (I want to go home already) |
| 14:49.14 | cHaPlinux | treestone, yes, Linux terminal server project. |
| 14:49.21 | kuru- | but looks like manually picking things is significantly faster ;) |
| 14:49.23 | alexskan | or is there any shell commands? Any clue? |
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| 14:49.32 | genix | kuru-: there you have each package in "Desktop Enviroment" |
| 14:49.32 | asg | kuru-: just install a base system and when you find something you need, apt-get install it. |
| 14:49.34 | amx | hi guys |
| 14:49.54 | amx | I'm having problems booting from my laptop via CDROM drive, tried several CDs but nothing will boot. any ideas? |
| 14:50.09 | e2e | Hi, after an apt-get upgrade my fonts become strange, especialy on browser, on some sites (sans-serif) fonts have a strange appereanc, i couldn't tell how, but i've tried all situations with dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig, that doesn't help |
| 14:50.13 | kuru- | asg, well I certainly won't need kde, but we'll see. I'll just be happy if I can get X running with web browsing and I can do the rest at home |
| 14:50.21 | genix | asg: no, its better he run "tasksel --task-package desktop" then he can pick everything he wants to |
| 14:50.26 | asg | kuru-: *nod* |
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| 14:50.58 | genix | kuru-: listen to me, I was spending the whole yesterday on this one |
| 14:51.02 | kuru- | the best feeling in the world is when I get a new machine, wipe out windows and slap debian on it ;) |
| 14:51.07 | alexskan | genix, is there any way to do it? |
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| 14:51.16 | asg | genix: he said he didn't want to pick, he just wanted to simply install X, fluxbox, and a browser. |
| 14:51.21 | kuru- | genix, i don't need 80% of what tasksel gives me |
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| 14:51.55 | treestone | amx: Look for a bios option to enable it to boot from the CD. If that looks ok it sounds like a possibly broken drive. |
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| 14:52.10 | resiak | e2e: We've had a number of reports of this today. I can't remember what the answer was. The word "autohinter" was thrown around quite a bit. |
| 14:52.11 | amx | symptom: the machine goes thru memory test, the cd is very busy and the machine locks up, goes no further |
| 14:52.18 | kuru- | here's the thing though |
| 14:52.28 | amx | damn i only just got the drive and it works ok in Windows |
| 14:52.33 | kuru- | it takes _forever_ for linux 2.6.8 to load |
| 14:52.37 | genix | kuru-: ok "apt-get install gdm gnome gnome-desktop-enviroment x-window-system-core" but you will be missing a lot off fonts etc |
| 14:52.44 | kuru- | it goes through 2.5 lines of .... until it starts loading |
| 14:52.46 | kuru- | is this normal? |
| 14:52.57 | genix | alexskan: do what? |
| 14:53.01 | asg | kuru-: yes, it shouldn't take long though. |
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| 14:53.16 | kuru- | genix, yeah i can get those very quickly by looking up what I have on my workstation at home 'dpkg -l' and installing it on the laptop, no biggie ;) |
| 14:53.28 | amx | treestone: I'm thinking maybe I should test the cd's in another machine |
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| 14:53.35 | kuru- | asg, what can I do to find out what it's doing instead of ...ing on me? ;) |
| 14:53.39 | e2e | resiak: Thanks, but as i said i've tried all alternatives with fontconfig |
| 14:53.41 | twk | re |
| 14:53.50 | resiak | e2e: Yeah. Have you checked the BTS? |
| 14:54.04 | asg | kuru-: not sure, that's the point where the kernel is loading itself into memory. |
| 14:54.04 | amx | resiak: what's BTS? |
| 14:54.07 | resiak | !bts |
| 14:54.07 | dpkg | from memory, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 14:54.14 | kuru- | hrmm |
| 14:54.14 | amx | oh |
| 14:54.23 | e2e | resiak: Thank, i'll try it |
| 14:54.25 | genix | kuru-: no you don't what about all dependency packages, you really don't want to install them manually when some packages do it automatically |
| 14:55.12 | treestone | amx: Different type of CDs, or several copies of the same? When you say it works fine in Windows, you mean just reading from Windows? Because when you try booting there's only the CD and machine involved.. btw, I remember Mandrake had a period when they produced boot-CDs that wouldn't work with drives from L*(something) |
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| 14:56.11 | genix | kuru-: run "apt-get depends x-window-system-core" and you will understand what I mean |
| 14:56.41 | gahan | apt-cache |
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| 14:58.31 | kuru- | genix, i already have x-window-syste-core |
| 14:58.35 | raf256 | hi there fellow geeks |
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| 15:00.01 | Champagne | hi guys, I'm was wondering what mean Konsole has exited with status 1? |
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| 15:00.36 | genix | kuru-: thats not the point, I just wanna show you the dependencie packages for it so you don't install each package on your laptop... =) |
| 15:00.43 | raf256 | how can I quickly encrypt an file? |
| 15:00.45 | raf256 | on a password |
| 15:00.50 | asg | raf256: gpg --encrypt <file> |
| 15:00.51 | resiak | raf256: man gpg |
| 15:00.52 | raf256 | something like tgz with password |
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| 15:01.04 | raf256 | resiak: but without need to create my GPG sign/key first, |
| 15:01.08 | genix | raf256: PGP |
| 15:01.09 | raf256 | resiak: just using one password |
| 15:01.10 | resiak | raf256: man gpg |
| 15:01.17 | resiak | raf256: Look for the symmetric encryption stuff. |
| 15:01.26 | raf256 | can gpg be use just with password? cool \o/ |
| 15:01.27 | raf256 | thanx |
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| 15:01.50 | treestone | raf256: Some version of zip can encrypt (not very strong encryption though) (zip -e iirc) |
| 15:02.01 | grisu | i need libstdc++2.8 to get a client application running. problem is that linking against more current versions doesn't work really. libstdc++2.8 seems not available anymore. what to do?! it seems the earliest libstdc++ available is v2.10 |
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| 15:02.17 | kuru- | ok, my X works and fluxbox works.. |
| 15:02.18 | kuru- | good stuff |
| 15:02.29 | kuru- | resolution is too high for my own good ;) |
| 15:02.33 | resiak | Openbox > Fluxbox, etc. |
| 15:02.39 | amx | will Debian run on UltraSparc 64bit system? |
| 15:03.18 | asg | !start a wm war |
| 15:03.18 | dpkg | blackbox makes me vomit! |
| 15:03.18 | asg | amx: should do |
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| 15:03.18 | amx | cool |
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| 15:03.18 | asg | !tell grisu about redhat crap |
| 15:03.20 | raf256 | anyone know the exacly commend to GPG ancryt a file foo.bar into foo.bar.encyrpted with a password PASS? |
| 15:03.20 | Disputin | yes debian will run on ultrasparc 64bit |
| 15:03.20 | grisu | asg: i've discovered a rpm fitting |
| 15:03.30 | grisu | is it save to do the alien install procedure with libstdc++ ? |
| 15:03.39 | Noldo | raf256: what is the point in that? |
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| 15:03.51 | PerfDave | raf256: man gpg |
| 15:03.59 | asg | grisu: I'd be _very_ careful |
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| 15:04.05 | raf256 | Noldo: to have a file encrypted? and gave it to someone asd gave him password over a phone or whateer |
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| 15:04.32 | grisu | it's that line: ssd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.2.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 15:04.47 | grisu | v2.8 ! that's 1998/99 |
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| 15:05.09 | treestone | grisu: I think I would have just extracted that libstdc++ manually from the rpm and put it in some off-broadway directory, then made a wrapper script to start that silly app with a specific LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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| 15:05.22 | grisu | as already stated, linking against current libs didn't solve the problem |
| 15:05.25 | asg | treestone: off-broadway, hah |
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| 15:06.00 | treestone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.09 | grisu | treestone: sounds fair.. how to direct the application to a specific lib? |
| 15:06.16 | asg | treestone: /usr/local/lib sounds just boonies(tm) enough |
| 15:06.25 | grisu | you mean by 'configure-time' parameters? |
| 15:06.26 | Croepha | is there a way i can use wget to just get a listing of all the files on a site? |
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| 15:06.46 | JRWR | how would i mount my USB Thumb drive? |
| 15:06.50 | treestone | grisu: I said it: Set LD_LIBRARY_PATH (e.g. export LD_LIBRARY_PATH /my/nonstandard/lib:/usr/lib:/lib; exec application) |
| 15:07.02 | amx | anyone own a Toshiba Satellite laptop? |
| 15:07.11 | PerfDave | JRWR: Plug it in, see what /dev node it gets assigned in /var/log/messages, mount that. |
| 15:07.13 | treestone | grisu: Inside a wrapper script |
| 15:07.21 | resiak | amx: I own a Toshiba laptop, FWIW |
| 15:07.26 | JRWR | ok |
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| 15:07.29 | PerfDave | I used to have a Tosh Satellite |
| 15:07.30 | amx | I've heard a rumour the Toshiba Satellite's dont support CDROM booting |
| 15:07.36 | asg | JRWR: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 15:07.39 | grisu | treestone: wrapper script ~ sub-shell |
| 15:07.45 | resiak | amx: Ah, I can't help you there, then. My A40 sure as hell does. |
| 15:07.51 | amx | hehe |
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| 15:08.02 | grisu | so that 'global' environment settings don't get affected .. you mean that? |
| 15:08.04 | amx | the A40 is a newer model, one of those superslim ones eh |
| 15:08.14 | grisu | sounds good ;) |
| 15:08.22 | grisu | hope it works |
| 15:08.23 | resiak | amx: Well .. it may have been super-slim once, but it has eaten a few too many pies. |
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| 15:08.30 | amx | haha |
| 15:08.31 | grisu | ty |
| 15:08.32 | asg | hmmmm pie |
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| 15:08.44 | resiak | !pie |
| 15:08.44 | dpkg | pie is probably NOT a mathematical term. It's a food. or about 8.539734222677. |
| 15:08.57 | treestone | grisu: E.g. put 'app' in /somewhere/else, then 'app' in /usr/local/bin as a script: #!/bin/sh\nexport LD_LIBRARY_PATH=<something>\n exec /somewhere/else/app (won't affect global anything) |
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| 15:09.38 | grisu | treestone: yeah, that sounds good! ty! ;-) |
| 15:09.59 | treestone | grisu: Or rename 'app' to 'app.bin' and exec 'app.bin' from the 'app' script (thousands of possibilities) |
| 15:10.08 | PerfDave | Do you have to set up LVM on a blank partition, or can you set it up on a partition containing data without losing that data? |
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| 15:10.54 | grisu | is there a non-redhat dependent site to gain old libstdc++ libraries from? |
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| 15:11.14 | grisu | s/site/sites |
| 15:11.17 | Chameleon22 | when i try to mirror hdd with dd do i use if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 or if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb |
| 15:11.21 | resiak | grisu: snapshots.debian.org ? |
| 15:11.33 | grisu | ah - thanks resiak |
| 15:11.36 | PerfDave | !sdn |
| 15:11.36 | dpkg | [sdn] go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. |
| 15:12.01 | grisu | dpkg: i need a 1998-99 dated package ;-) |
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| 15:12.22 | PerfDave | grisu: Grab it out of woody? ;0 |
| 15:12.28 | grisu | hehe |
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| 15:12.59 | grisu | PerfDave: woody's not _that_ old i think :) |
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| 15:13.09 | treestone | Chameleon22: Depends on what you're trying to do. If hdb is the exact same dimension as hda you can use /dev/hda and /dev/hdb, that'll also copy the partition table etc. If you have different drives then you can copy one partition as you indicated, as long as they are of the same size on both disks. |
| 15:13.13 | valdyn_ | !potato |
| 15:13.13 | dpkg | rumour has it, potato is Debian 2.2, released August 14th, 2000, and is no longer supported. Ask me about "potato->woody" for upgrade information. something that grows underground |
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| 15:13.22 | valdyn_ | !hamm |
| 15:13.22 | dpkg | hamm is, like, Debian 2.0, released for i386 and m68k (first multi-arch release), or released July 24, 1998 |
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| 15:13.39 | Anders1 | !potato |
| 15:13.39 | dpkg | i heard potato is Debian 2.2, released August 14th, 2000, and is no longer supported. Ask me about "potato->woody" for upgrade information. something that grows underground |
| 15:13.41 | Anders1 | oh |
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| 15:13.54 | resiak | !tell Anders1 -about msgdpkg |
| 15:14.01 | Anders1 | yes, ok |
| 15:14.02 | mdke | is there a utility in debian to edit which initscripts start in each runlevel without doing it manually in /etc/rc*.d? |
| 15:14.09 | resiak | Let's invoke every one of dpkg's old Debian version things! |
| 15:14.12 | valdyn_ | grisu: both, potato and hamm should still be on debian.org |
| 15:14.30 | mdke | like rc-update or something? |
| 15:14.33 | treestone | mdke: update-rc.d should do it. |
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| 15:14.34 | resiak | mdke: rcconf |
| 15:14.41 | mdke | aha |
| 15:14.47 | Champagne | mdke: kde system editor SysV |
| 15:14.54 | mdke | don't use X |
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| 15:15.06 | resiak | mdke: No, it doesn't use X. |
| 15:15.09 | mdke | resiak, treestone, which is better |
| 15:15.18 | mdke | resiak, kde does i believe |
| 15:15.20 | resiak | mdke: You'll prefer rcconf to update-rc.d |
| 15:15.30 | mdke | resiak, ah, how come? |
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| 15:15.36 | resiak | mdke: Oh, sorry, I thought you were saying you don't use X. |
| 15:15.41 | mdke | i was |
| 15:15.42 | resiak | mdke: Because rcconf gives you a menu. |
| 15:15.50 | resiak | mdke: And I was saying that rcconf doesn't use X either. |
| 15:15.50 | treestone | mdke: I have only used update-rc.d. Why don't you try them all, that's what I do when I want to figure out what's best (best for me, that is) |
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| 15:16.06 | mdke | resiak, yeah it wasn't directed at you, it was directed at "mdke: kde system editor SysV" |
| 15:16.15 | Haldrick | 7J #debian-es |
| 15:16.16 | resiak | mdke: I have figured this out now :) |
| 15:16.26 | resiak | Is / really next to 7 on es keyboards? |
| 15:16.38 | mdke | resiak, treestone, thanks |
| 15:16.45 | treestone | np |
| 15:16.45 | valdyn_ | resiak: above ( shift ) |
| 15:17.01 | resiak | valdyn_: Ohhhhhhh... |
| 15:17.41 | markc | this is not debian speciic but when I create a nw kernel on an amd64 machine how do I tell make menuconfig that I want to compile a kernel for a PIII ? |
| 15:18.02 | valdyn_ | markc: if you have to ask this- dont compile a kernel |
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| 15:18.16 | valdyn_ | mark: not many options are easier to find than this one |
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| 15:18.18 | asg | markc: just install a debian -686 package |
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| 15:18.31 | reppal | hi, is there a way to make windows client print trough a linux cups server without having to install specific printsr drivers on every windows machine? |
| 15:18.35 | markc | valdyn_> I'm asking because menuconfig will not allow me to change it from x86_64 |
| 15:18.59 | amx | which is better, FSC or TFT for LCDs? |
| 15:19.01 | valdyn_ | reppal: sure, it works "by default" via samba, windows will just use a local driver |
| 15:19.04 | markc | if I edit .config directly it changes it back to x86_64 every time |
| 15:19.04 | asg | reppal: there is but it's non-trivial. See Using Samba 2nd. ed. at oreilly.com/openbook and #samba for more info |
| 15:19.22 | valdyn_ | mark: you want to cross compile a kernel? |
| 15:19.34 | liable | markc: as root? |
| 15:19.40 | genix | Do I need kdepim kdepim-libs (these is installed under tasksel > Desktop Enviroment) if i'm running GNOME? |
| 15:19.43 | valdyn_ | markc: you want to cross compile a kernel? |
| 15:19.49 | markc | valdyn_> I guess so... I'm on amd64 nd I want to compile a kernel for a generic PC |
| 15:19.53 | reppal | asg: thanks |
| 15:19.55 | asg | genix: not unless you have something that depends on that package |
| 15:19.57 | cahoot | reppal: w2k and xp prints natively to cups vis http |
| 15:19.58 | valdyn_ | !cross compile |
| 15:20.06 | asg | genix: use deborphan to see if those are not in use by anything. |
| 15:20.09 | reppal | valdyn_ what do you mean with local? |
| 15:20.23 | amx | Fast Scan Colour or TFT? |
| 15:20.25 | reppal | cahoot, without samba? |
| 15:20.32 | cahoot | reppal: yes |
| 15:20.36 | Chameleon22 | treestone: diff size drives but root drive has a single partition so will that be a problem? |
| 15:20.39 | markc | surely it's not that hard of a thing to want to do / |
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| 15:20.53 | valdyn_ | reppal: you have to cross compile for this, i dont know the details, but make-kpkg should support it completely ( man make-kpkg ), including the proper call to make menuconfig |
| 15:21.12 | sebas_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.21 | genix | asg: deborphan? thats new for me, how do I use it (I didn't find it on apt or using the command deborphan) |
| 15:21.30 | sebas_ | the installation program stop when show me the list of languages |
| 15:21.41 | cahoot | reppal: point to http://<server>:631/printers/raw_printer_queue |
| 15:21.58 | resiak | !tell sebas_ -about enter |
| 15:22.01 | asg | genix: apt-get install deborphan ; deborphan (it will list packages that no other package depends on.) |
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| 15:22.06 | jethro | !tell sebas -about smart questions |
| 15:22.12 | valdyn_ | reppal: look for --config and --cross-compile in that manpage |
| 15:22.34 | asg | genix: useful for finding pesky library packages that are no longer in use. |
| 15:22.59 | reppal | cahoot: how does the server tells clients its capabilities? is it implemented in IPP? |
| 15:23.09 | genix | asg: ok thank you |
| 15:23.23 | asg | genix: you're welcome |
| 15:23.32 | FieldySnuts | aww how cute ;) |
| 15:23.47 | valdyn_ | reppal: it doesnt need to |
| 15:24.05 | cahoot | reppal: you need create a raw printer on the server (and let the client access it) |
| 15:24.30 | valdyn_ | reppal: you use the appropriate driver on your windows, and samba will direct lpr or cups or whatever you use to send the raw data to the printer as recieved from windows |
| 15:25.29 | reppal | cahoot & valdyn_: the problem is that my printer comes with a .exe which installs driver ONLY if you have the printer connected |
| 15:25.51 | reppal | cahoot & valdyn_: so deploying to several windows host is PITA |
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| 15:26.15 | cahoot | kinky |
| 15:26.26 | valdyn_ | reppal: complain to whoever distributes this trash |
| 15:26.30 | reppal | cahoot & valdyn_: is there a way to use a standard protocol to talk to cups? i mean, without using printer specific drivers |
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| 15:27.16 | FieldySnuts | postmaaaan! |
| 15:27.22 | reppal | valdyn_, a part from this, i'd prefer not to install drivers on windows hosts, if possible. |
| 15:27.23 | cahoot | reppal: no idea - doubt it |
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| 15:27.52 | sebas_ | jethro: !tell about smart answers |
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| 15:27.52 | asg | reppal: you can setup samba to provide the drivers to connecting windows clients but, as I said above, it's non-trivial |
| 15:27.52 | valdyn_ | reppal: cups clients for windows do not exist, using the lpr spool remotely is doable via ghostscript i guess, but that is probably harder to set up than finding a driver for your printer |
| 15:27.59 | resiak | sebas_: You never actually asked a question |
| 15:28.02 | markc | nope, I don't get it... I'll have to compile a 32bit kernel on a 32bit machine I guess... wierd |
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| 15:28.34 | valdyn_ | s/exist/exist afaik/ |
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| 15:28.52 | valdyn_ | markc: no, you can cross compile... |
| 15:29.03 | dexter_ | How come msttcorefonts isn't in apt-get? |
| 15:29.13 | dexter_ | I mean. Some programs wants it :P |
| 15:29.16 | valdyn_ | dexter_: non-free |
| 15:29.16 | asg | dexter_: for what version of debian? |
| 15:29.18 | dexter_ | I mean suggest it |
| 15:29.25 | dexter_ | valdyn_: Gah |
| 15:29.27 | PerfDave | info msttcorefonts |
| 15:29.32 | sebas_ | resiak: and? |
| 15:29.33 | PerfDave | !info msttcorefonts |
| 15:29.36 | dpkg | msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section contrib/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2 (sid), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB |
| 15:29.50 | dexter_ | so i can't get them? |
| 15:29.56 | valdyn_ | dexter_: oh contrib, oh well, same deal maybe, add contrib to your sources line |
| 15:29.58 | resiak | sebas_: ...we don't know what the hell you're having a problem with. |
| 15:30.09 | PerfDave | dexter_: What makes you think you can't get them? |
| 15:30.21 | reppal | valdyn_ what about http://www.cups.org/windows/articles.php?L143? |
| 15:30.23 | markc | valdyn_> got a clue for me where to look up how to cross-compile 32bit on a 64bit machine ? (I can run 32bit apps) |
| 15:30.23 | sebas_ | resiak: all ok! |
| 15:30.32 | resiak | *shrug* |
| 15:30.32 | Chameleon22 | treestone: ? |
| 15:30.36 | asg | markc: try asking #debian-amd64 |
| 15:30.36 | reppal | valdyn_, sorry for the '?' :) |
| 15:31.08 | valdyn_ | markc: why not "man make-kpkg" ? |
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| 15:32.01 | dexter_ | valdyn_: And how/where (in sources.list) do i add that/those lines? It was a long time since i last did it :p |
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| 15:32.03 | markc | valdyn_> I'm used to rolling my own kernels, with squashfs... I don't know how to use make-kpkg |
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| 15:32.30 | valdyn_ | markc: that is what manpages are good for |
| 15:32.35 | sebas_ | my problem is: the installation program of Sarge (netinst) stop (not respond) when show me the list of languages, I install it in a lot of machines but i neves saw this problem, do you saw it? |
| 15:32.38 | valdyn_ | reppal: neat |
| 15:33.20 | asg | sebas_: do you have some odd usb keyboard that isn't supported perhaps? does ALT+F2 take you to a console? |
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| 15:34.04 | sebas_ | asg: no, I am installing it in a laptop |
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| 15:34.34 | markc | valdyn_> ae you sure that'swhat the manpage is called ? |
| 15:34.53 | genix | in which file is the keyboard layout represented? |
| 15:34.55 | markc | No manual entry for make-kpkg |
| 15:34.57 | valdyn_ | !tell markc about kp |
| 15:34.57 | asg | sebas_: hmmm. |
| 15:35.14 | sebas_ | asg: alt+f2 not respond |
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| 15:35.24 | asg | genix: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 15:36.02 | treestone | Chameleon22: (I was out for a moment.) If the drives are different, and each has a single partition, then the partitions are different sizes too, right? Then you don't want to dd between the two disks, hda/hdb nor hda1/hdb1 |
| 15:36.39 | asg | sebas_: it sounds to me like a keyboard issue. I've never seen the installer freeze at that point. You might try the #debian-boot mailing list (or maybe even verify that by using knoppix or some other live cd to see if things work okay.) |
| 15:36.52 | asg | sebas_: also, check tuxmobile.org for your laptop model to see if others have had issues. |
| 15:36.56 | genix | asg: that does not tell me which file the keyboard layout is |
| 15:37.35 | genix | asg: i know how to reconfigure it, but I want to do this by script so I need to know where it is |
| 15:37.43 | markc | valdyn_> I'm building up a livecd, I'd rather not use any more packages than I have to... I'll opt for building a generic 32bit kernel on a 32bit machine... appreciate your help |
| 15:37.46 | sebas_ | asg: thanks! |
| 15:37.46 | asg | genix: oh, okay |
| 15:37.55 | Chameleon22 | treestone: i just looked at partitions on hda and made same partitions on hdb diff size ofcourse. So now i want to mirro the drive hda onto the hdb ... do i use dd or should i use something else? |
| 15:38.34 | asg | genix: I'd troll /usr/share/doc/console-data/* for more info and hints. |
| 15:38.51 | genix | asg: =) |
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| 15:39.24 | kyncani | Chameleon22: "cp -a" would not do the trick ?? |
| 15:39.59 | Chameleon22 | kyncani: what does cp -a do ? |
| 15:40.13 | Chameleon22 | kyncani: i dont know, dd is the only way i know how to do it thats all |
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| 15:40.28 | ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.30 | kyncani | Chameleon22: copy everything, recurse and copy file attributes too |
| 15:41.00 | genix | asg: or is there any command to change the keyboard layout to se (swedish)? |
| 15:41.03 | Chameleon22 | kyncani: so basicly "cp -a / /newdrive" |
| 15:41.23 | kyncani | Chameleon22: basically yeah |
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| 15:41.59 | Chameleon22 | kyncani: okies will give it a go |
| 15:42.01 | kyncani | Chameleon22: wait, you should not do it on a root filesystem |
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| 15:42.15 | Chameleon22 | kyncani: oh |
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| 15:42.22 | valdyn_ | genix: dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 15:42.33 | Chameleon22 | kyncani: what i want to do is move from smaller to larger hdd thats all |
| 15:42.37 | kyncani | Chameleon22: yeah, you do not want stuff like /proc or /tmp being copied |
| 15:42.45 | asg | genix: install-keymap(8) |
| 15:42.51 | genix | valdyn_: I don't want to select, just wanna change it by command in a script |
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| 15:43.09 | kyncani | Chameleon22: you should boot knoppix, then mount your /old and /new, then cp -a /old/* /new |
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| 15:44.05 | genix | valdyn_: want to change it from us to se by command |
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| 15:44.54 | valdyn_ | genix: in X? |
| 15:45.00 | ali7288 | howcome i (sometimes) cannot see the text in a flash file in firefox? |
| 15:45.05 | genix | valdyn_: yes |
| 15:45.08 | ali7288 | ofcourse i am running debian |
| 15:45.09 | Chameleon22 | kyncani: is there a way to do it without knopix |
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| 15:45.39 | valdyn_ | genix: in a terminal or via mouseclick? |
| 15:45.59 | genix | valdyn_: in a terminal |
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| 15:47.06 | genix | valdyn_: and I don't want a script to do it for me so I need a command that change it without any menus/question |
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| 15:47.45 | genix | valdyn_: do you know where the keymap file is? then I can edit the file with sed |
| 15:47.47 | valdyn_ | genix: apt-get install xkbsel ( i believe should do it ) |
| 15:47.50 | JGHG | I've set vga=xxx on a kernel line in grub's menu.lst, and it boots fine in selected video mode, but something late in startup resets the resolution to 80x25... what's this? |
| 15:47.58 | kyncani | Chameleon22: maybe you can mount your / in /old (so that /old does not have any external fs mounted on, like /dev/shm, ...) and then cp -a /old/* /old |
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| 15:48.46 | genix | valdyn_: I just need to know where the file is that contians keyboard layout: US |
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| 15:49.43 | Chameleon22 | kyncani: will i be able to boot of a new drive after that ? |
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| 15:50.31 | kyncani | Chameleon22: you will have to set up your bootloader of course, and any other external partition (like swap) |
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| 15:50.56 | valdyn_ | genix: no idea, but "xmodmap" can modify your current keymap |
| 15:51.00 | idiom | say can someone help me out with a boot problem and grub |
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| 15:51.55 | idiom | when i try to boot into a new kernel it says can't open root device hdb1 |
| 15:52.51 | genix | valdyn_: thanks for your help but I will try to find that file anyway |
| 15:52.54 | markc | the answer to my question about compiling a 32bit kernel on an amd64 box was to install linux32 and "linux32 chroot" ... thanks for all the xcellent help guys |
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| 15:53.18 | cahoot | genix: look in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols |
| 15:53.25 | toad_ | my logcheck is sending me messages such as "Could not process file fetchmail", or "Could not process file logcheck" - what is the problem? |
| 15:53.32 | cld_ | hey:) do You know app like xgamma but with possibility change gamma with +/- some value from console. I want to make some keyboard shortcuts to increase / decrease gamma. Can You help ? |
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| 15:53.52 | toad_ | also any idea about this?: udev[19487]: symlink '/dev/' points to a different device, skip removal (/dev is not a symlink) |
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| 15:54.22 | toad_ | and can anyone suggest a good IDS, or at least a simple apt-gettable script that blocks worms that try a zillion users on ssh? |
| 15:55.19 | DoppelGanger | iptables |
| 15:55.21 | genix | valdyn_: well, it's in there, thanks you and asg |
| 15:55.21 | DoppelGanger | snort |
| 15:55.26 | DoppelGanger | tripwire |
| 15:55.30 | DoppelGanger | a baseball bat |
| 15:55.37 | DoppelGanger | the italian mafia |
| 15:56.10 | toad_ | oh, i found the answer to #1 |
| 15:56.21 | drac | Hey, is I only have file .bin, and not .cue at all, is it possible to convert to .iso somehow? |
| 15:56.21 | toad_ | stuff in /etc/logcheck/*.d needs to be chgrp logcheck |
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| 15:56.42 | United | grep: /dev/cpu/microcode: Invalid argument |
| 15:56.43 | United | You have 1 process hidden for readdir command |
| 15:56.47 | United | You have 1 process hidden for ps command |
| 15:56.47 | Chameleon22 | kyncani: swap and tmp i understand ... bootloader? why ... wouldnt the new hdd be seen as an old one after i make it a master |
| 15:56.47 | United | Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed |
| 15:56.49 | United | any idea what that is? |
| 15:56.58 | DoppelGanger | drac: bchunk |
| 15:57.10 | toad_ | United: what is saying that? |
| 15:57.20 | United | toad_ chkrootkit |
| 15:57.27 | drac | DoppelGanger: But it needs .cue |
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| 15:58.58 | toad_ | hmmm |
| 15:59.05 | kyncani | Chameleon22: bootloader is not in the partition filesystem. Don't worry, grub-install is your friend |
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| 15:59.06 | DoppelGanger | tht is a problem |
| 15:59.09 | toad_ | I still get the warning "Could not process file su" every time I run logcheck |
| 15:59.10 | toad_ | why? |
| 15:59.20 | JGHG | anyone able to set console to display more than 80x25_ |
| 15:59.22 | JGHG | ? |
| 15:59.31 | toad_ | all the files in /etc/logcheck called su are chgrp logcheck and readable by group |
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| 16:00.47 | DoppelGanger | drac: dunno know you could always try mouting the cue file then makeing a iso from the mount |
| 16:00.56 | toad_ | is there a difference between "not infected" and "nothing deleted" w.r.t. chkrootkit? |
| 16:02.42 | United | no ? |
| 16:02.53 | e2k | please i urgent need a program that makes screen shots if there is one in woody please tell me the name to apt-get it thanks |
| 16:03.05 | asg | e2k: import from imagemagick |
| 16:03.10 | SEcki | e2k: gimp |
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| 16:04.00 | e2k | thanks |
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| 16:07.26 | treestone | e2k: There's even good old 'xwd' |
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| 16:11.40 | idiom | hey does anyone know why i'm getting the error cannot open root device hdb1 unable to mount root fs with a new kernel? |
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| 16:12.36 | Noldo | 1. quess initrd problems |
| 16:12.52 | idiom | Yeah i think so |
| 16:12.54 | kyncani | idiom: fstype not built in kernel maybe ? |
| 16:12.58 | Noldo | 2. missing support for the fs |
| 16:13.10 | Noldo | 3. missing support for the related hardware |
| 16:13.17 | FieldySnuts | 4. missing clue |
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| 16:13.42 | idiom | hardware and fs are ok.. |
| 16:14.05 | idiom | it's a dual boot with grub windows on the primary drive debian on the secondary |
| 16:14.36 | Noldo | idiom: is it a debian kernel or self built? |
| 16:14.37 | markc | idiom> are you messing with a 2.6 kernel and devfs vs udev ? |
| 16:14.44 | idiom | it's self built |
| 16:14.59 | Noldo | idiom: and the earlier ones are too? |
| 16:15.11 | idiom | no the earlier ones are debian |
| 16:15.32 | Noldo | idiom: are you trying to keep initrd or get rid of it? |
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| 16:15.54 | idiom | get rid of it |
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| 16:16.34 | Noldo | idiom: did you remove the support for it in the kernel conf? |
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| 16:16.55 | idiom | hmmm, i'll check..it's probably something dumb like that =) |
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| 16:17.44 | Nurbs_ | you don't need to remove the support for it |
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| 16:18.11 | idiom | oh ok |
| 16:18.25 | idiom | kinda a noob with this and i've never used grub |
| 16:18.48 | idiom | i have another box with woody /lilo and never had a problem with custom built kernels |
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| 16:19.42 | budis | grr I have no passwd in those bots |
| 16:19.51 | idiom | if i want to use initrd do i have todo something special with the new kerneal |
| 16:19.52 | budis | can't register my nick :P |
| 16:20.37 | redduck666 | when my computer is booting it displays what is currently being loaded/processed. at one point it comes tryes loading about 8 modules and it says modules already loaded. i would like to know what those modules are, is anywhere on my system a log file containing output i get during my boot |
| 16:20.49 | asg | redduck666: dmesg |
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| 16:21.32 | budis | heh, I could just make up something |
| 16:21.42 | asg | budis: /msg nickserv help |
| 16:21.55 | markc | idiom> make sure initrd is compiled into the kernel, and add a line to your grub setup |
| 16:21.56 | budis | after all, what's important is that it's the same pass next time |
| 16:22.13 | budis | not helpfulful that way, sorry ;P |
| 16:22.31 | idiom | markc > ok i'll try that thanks |
| 16:22.35 | colloron | i need some tool i can run on my ip and whenever i connect to it on port, say 1080, it would connect to another ip:2095 and basically redirect the data between us... any ideas? |
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| 16:23.01 | asg | colloron: ssh can do portforwarding in that manner |
| 16:23.19 | colloron | that would be good cause im using sshd |
| 16:23.31 | colloron | how can i use it for that? |
| 16:23.40 | budis | anyway, I've always used unstable lately, the same as sarge. Now sarge has moved into testing. Current unstable is sid (as always). Must I rewrite my sources.list now? |
| 16:24.00 | budis | I won't install sid's packages if I can help it |
| 16:24.04 | colloron | its just that some webmail tools are runing on port 2095 of another box and from work im locked down to proxy ports like 8080, 1080 etc and i cant access my mail |
| 16:24.15 | dvs | budis: Which do you want sarge or sid? |
| 16:24.46 | budis | dvs: sarge. I have "unstable" in my sources.list |
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| 16:24.52 | idiom | markc> yeah initrd is compiled into the kernel |
| 16:25.17 | dvs | budis: Man, change "unstable" to "testing" in your sources.list |
| 16:25.33 | Bac9 | can anyone recomend cd buring software for sarge? no I do not know much about burning |
| 16:25.34 | markc | idiom> have you got a grub example for launching initrd ? |
| 16:25.36 | rudo | have somebody some experience with ZYAIR wifi pcmci card ..?? |
| 16:25.47 | budis | dvs: How do I know when it's time for those rewrites? |
| 16:25.52 | dvs | budis: What rewrites? |
| 16:26.21 | treestone | colloron: ssh -L1080:anotherbox:2095 anotherbox; then you can connect to local port 1080 on your local box and reach 2095 on that other box |
| 16:26.41 | redduck666 | budis, you can use apt-spy to modify your sources.list (it will delete you current on) |
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| 16:26.51 | idiom | markc> ok i see where there might be the problem it is mapped to the initrd file of a debain built kernel |
| 16:27.05 | treestone | colloron: In the example ':localhost:' would work too, as it's as seen from the box you log in to |
| 16:27.17 | idiom | makrc > how would i change this? |
| 16:27.22 | colloron | treestone: ok, is it ssh or sshd? |
| 16:27.25 | budis | dvs: Rewrites of sources.list. Wouldn't it be better to put the actual names in there? That is, whouldn't it be better to have written "sarge" instead of "unstable" in the first place? |
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| 16:27.45 | budis | redduck666: Aha. Thanks! |
| 16:28.10 | treestone | colloron: It's ssh (you need sshd running on that other box), it's like logging in but with the side-effect of making an additional tunnel that you can use for your own purposes. |
| 16:28.11 | redduck666 | budis, take care thought, it is a lenghty proces |
| 16:28.33 | dvs | budis: If you want to stay with sarge forever, that's fine put "sarge" in the file. If you want to use etch once it becomes testing, put "testing" in the file. |
| 16:28.40 | colloron | oh, i dont think it's good for me then, cause i dont have sshd runing on the other side. |
| 16:28.42 | budis | redduck666: Hm, ok. I have an old box (400 MHz, 128 MB RAM) |
| 16:28.53 | markc | idiom> I think you can use "init=/bin/sh" to go to a shell at the initrd stage if you need to troubleshoot why hdb1 is not visible |
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| 16:29.51 | idiom | markc > ok i'll give that a try and see if i can debug it...thanks alot! |
| 16:30.09 | treestone | colloron: Is the problem that you can't reach through a firewall to the port you want? What you need to do is to be able to ssh to somewhere which has access to the port you want on the other side of the firewall. Then adjust the -Lport:destination:port accordingly. |
| 16:30.16 | markc | idiom> g'luck :) |
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| 16:30.44 | budis | dvs: If I put "stable" and a new version becomes stable, wouldn't a dist-upgrade be good then? Ehm, I don't follow what's going on very well |
| 16:31.11 | colloron | treestone: you said that the remote box which i forward from/to *has* to have ssh runing... im not sure it does and if it doesnt i cant control it. |
| 16:31.26 | redduck666 | how can i PERMENANTLY prevent module from loading, rmmod -f, modprobe -r and manually removing .ko files doesn't seem to work. is there any other way or i am doing something wrong? |
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| 16:31.46 | colloron | treestone: i basically just need some tcp tunnel that when i connect to my house's ip:80 it'd connect to anotherbox:2095 and forward data from/to it |
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| 16:31.53 | treestone | colloron: Nonono, the box you log in to has to have sshd.. the only other requirement is that that remote box can see the port (on possibly some other box) on that other side |
| 16:31.54 | dvs | budis: Let me put it this way: if you put "stable" in the file then the Debian developer controls when you upgrade. If you put "sarge" in your file, then YOU control when your system gets updated. |
| 16:32.09 | mathieu_ | redduck666, /etc/modules ? |
| 16:32.13 | markc | redduck666> don't load them in the first place ? |
| 16:32.17 | treestone | colloron: Hold on |
| 16:32.21 | colloron | treestone: oh i see, the local one has to have sshd you're saying... ok thats good. let me try it then |
| 16:32.31 | redduck666 | markc, yes |
| 16:32.37 | budis | dvs: Aha, OK. |
| 16:32.39 | redduck666 | mathieu_, will try thanks |
| 16:33.10 | treestone | colloron: On your own box: ssh localhost -L80:anotherbox:2095 localhost; then leave it there (or 'ping -i 60 localhost'), go somewhere else, connect to your house's ip:80 |
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| 16:33.49 | treestone | colloron: You may have to be root in order to be able to use -L80 btw. |
| 16:34.01 | colloron | treestone: gotcha, let me see if it works |
| 16:34.15 | budis | Thanks, dvs and redduck666! I'll contemplate this! |
| 16:34.49 | toad_ | how do i get the return value of a command as a number in bash? |
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| 16:35.49 | FieldySnuts | toad_: you might want to ask #bash about that one |
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| 16:35.57 | treestone | toad_: echo $? |
| 16:35.59 | gach | hi guys |
| 16:35.59 | JRWR | i just compiled my 1st program! |
| 16:36.03 | gach | i need help here |
| 16:36.04 | FieldySnuts | :D |
| 16:36.06 | JRWR | Mplayer1.0pre1 |
| 16:36.16 | gach | anyone knows how to disable vesafb on lilo? |
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| 16:36.32 | keyhack | What package do I need to install to get my pc to discover my USB webcam? |
| 16:36.38 | toad_ | treestone: okay, so how do i do that in a single command? i have command || warn <some warning> at present |
| 16:36.41 | mathieu_ | gach, vga=normal |
| 16:36.48 | JRWR | What type of webcam isit |
| 16:36.51 | toad_ | i want it to only do the warning if the return value is exactly 2 |
| 16:36.52 | gach | at prompt? |
| 16:37.00 | mathieu_ | gach, lilo.conf |
| 16:37.06 | gach | i need it at prompt |
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| 16:37.11 | gach | cuz it wont boot |
| 16:37.11 | FieldySnuts | @lart pi |
| 16:37.38 | gach | do you think it ill be the same? |
| 16:37.46 | treestone | toad_: Not sure if I understand exactly what you want to do -- $? will contain the exit value after a command (program) has executed, you can test for it in a bash script with 'if', for example |
| 16:37.54 | asg | gach: or try video=vesafb:off |
| 16:38.04 | toad_ | treestone: fix a recently introduced bug in logcheck |
| 16:38.24 | gach | thnks |
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| 16:38.34 | colloron | treestone : i do have sshd runing here but its on port 23, how do i adjust that command? |
| 16:38.59 | FieldySnuts | are you sure that's sshd? netstat -anp | grep :23 |
| 16:38.59 | colloron | treestone : i added -p 23 after the host. |
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| 16:39.08 | toad_ | the effect of which is that if any rule eliminates all remaining lines in the file, you get an error |
| 16:39.09 | pi | okay, sup |
| 16:39.23 | toad_ | in other words, logcheck always returns a message even when it shouldn't |
| 16:39.30 | rudo | gach You must edit your lilo to vga=normal I think.... |
| 16:39.30 | rudo | I have this in my lilo.conf .... |
| 16:39.33 | treestone | colloron: You mean it's not listening on port 22? ssh -L80:anotherbox:2095 -p 23 localhost should work |
| 16:39.36 | asg | rudo: he left |
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| 16:39.51 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: kill pi |
| 16:40.17 | colloron | treestone : i was able to connect but it quits with error: ssh_exchange_identification: connection closed by remote host |
| 16:40.48 | treestone | colloron: You can't log in from localhost to localhost with ssh? |
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| 16:41.16 | colloron | i cant do normal sshing |
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| 16:41.32 | colloron | from the localhost, though TO the internet ip from another box or the internet it works fine |
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| 16:41.47 | colloron | i tried changing localhost to my internet ip, doesnt work either |
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| 16:42.42 | rudo | have somebody some experience with ZYAIR wifi pcmci card ..in debian ?? |
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| 16:43.09 | treestone | colloron: I'm not familiar with that error message. You'll have to try to figure out what's wrong with the sshd installation on your localhost. |
| 16:43.41 | colloron | ok, thanks treestone |
| 16:43.49 | treestone | colloron: Why's it listening on port 23, by the way? |
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| 16:49.06 | colloron | treestone : sshd, just on port 23. |
| 16:49.14 | rudo | have somebody some experience with ZYAIR wifi pcmci card ..in debian ?? |
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| 16:54.17 | chefkoch-2oo4 | what kernel module should i install for nforce4 audio? |
| 16:54.24 | chefkoch-2oo4 | kan i emerge one? |
| 16:54.32 | dvs | chefkoch-2oo4: forcedeth |
| 16:54.53 | chefkoch-2oo4 | think, that is the lan |
| 16:55.25 | xlr8 | hello, I am writing a little outbound firewall with iptables/netfilter/java. I want that all processes need to register with my firewall. with tcp connection it already works, but how can i determine the pid/processname of a process, wich sends an udp/icmp... packet ? in the case of tcp packets i just look which processes are using the specified tcp-port. thank you ! |
| 16:55.29 | dvs | chefkoch-2oo4: Oh, my apologies. Try the 810 audio |
| 16:55.46 | chefkoch-2oo4 | is that a realtek 5.1 driver? |
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| 16:56.13 | dvs | chefkoch-2oo4: No, the 810 driver can control MANY different audio chips |
| 16:56.28 | chefkoch-2oo4 | rally? i dont know him before... |
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| 16:56.40 | drac | hehe |
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| 16:56.54 | chefkoch-2oo4 | is it include in genkernel generated kernel ;-) ? |
| 16:57.01 | dvs | chefkoch-2oo4: yes |
| 16:57.07 | chefkoch-2oo4 | very good... |
| 16:57.18 | dvs | chefkoch-2oo4: which version are we talking? |
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| 16:57.40 | chefkoch-2oo4 | 2.6.10 |
| 16:57.44 | dvs | ok |
| 16:57.59 | dvs | chefkoch-2oo4: I'd use the ALSA version if possible |
| 16:58.39 | chefkoch-2oo4 | i yes, i want to. di i have to emerge something? |
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| 16:58.50 | chefkoch-2oo4 | have alsa-oss and alsa-utlils installed |
| 16:59.16 | chefkoch-2oo4 | i my first gentoo stage3 installation *proud* |
| 16:59.27 | dvs | chefkoch-2oo4: Then "modprobe snd_intel8x0" |
| 16:59.59 | chefkoch-2oo4 | i have to ask again. |
| 17:00.11 | chefkoch-2oo4 | i havnt used 5.1 by linux before |
| 17:00.21 | dvs | 5.1???? |
| 17:00.24 | chefkoch-2oo4 | is 5.1 supported by this driver? |
| 17:00.31 | dvs | 5.1 what? |
| 17:00.38 | chefkoch-2oo4 | jeah... digital audio 5.1 |
| 17:00.45 | dvs | chefkoch-2oo4: I'm not sure. |
| 17:00.56 | valdyn | !nvaudio |
| 17:01.07 | chefkoch-2oo4 | nvaudio sounds better |
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| 17:10.02 | paolo | Hi guys! anyone knows of problems with network printing between two ubuntu pc's? |
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| 17:10.10 | Epixc | hi, i have a 8 gig hd and a 10 gig hd. i want to make a server. whats a good partitoning scheme? Debian |
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| 17:10.14 | Epixc | opps |
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| 17:10.26 | markybob | paolo, i know this isnt ubuntu. #ubuntu |
| 17:10.36 | Epixc | debian installer only does auto partition on one drive |
| 17:10.38 | Ktaz | http://www.resellerads.com |
| 17:10.42 | Epixc | so how should i set it up? |
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| 17:11.00 | dvs | Epixc: You can do it manually and set up partitions on both drives. |
| 17:11.02 | YamahaRx800 | does any one know how to use command line to encode flacs to mp3s? |
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| 17:11.34 | Epixc | dvs, but how should I? what sizes for what partitions |
| 17:11.35 | wt | anyone here know anything about netgear layer 3 switches? |
| 17:11.56 | dvs | Epixc: I'd put / on the primary drive and /home on the secondary drive. |
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| 17:12.58 | Anders1 | is it possible to install additional packages into a debootstrap directory? i mean, can one do something like apt-get for debootstrap |
| 17:13.10 | Anders1 | so i can install X etc into /livecd/ |
| 17:13.12 | YamahaRx800 | does any one know how to use command line to encode flacs to mp3s or acc? |
| 17:13.12 | Epixc | dvs, if i seperate /usr, /var and /tmp how big foes / have to be? |
| 17:13.26 | Epixc | dvs, to |
| 17:13.34 | YamahaRx800 | (acc is like mp4) |
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| 17:14.30 | YamahaRx800 | ??? |
| 17:14.40 | dvs | Epixc: I generally don't use so many partitions because it's very hard to predict how must room each directory wants. Then I discover that one partition runs out of room and there's plenty of space on the other partitions. |
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| 17:15.13 | Epixc | dvs ok... so maybe one for /, one for /home and one for /var/www? |
| 17:15.15 | Anders1 | i do 100mb ext2 /boot, (ram*2) swap, rest / |
| 17:15.27 | YamahaRx800 | does any one know how to encode flacs to mp3s using the command line? |
| 17:15.36 | Anders1 | rest ext3 /* |
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| 17:15.46 | Epixc | Anders1, why /boot? and why ext2? |
| 17:15.53 | dvs | Anders1: 100mb for /boot is WAY too much. 20MB max |
| 17:15.58 | treestone | Epixc: I use LVM for partitions other than /. Then I can expand at will, more or less. |
| 17:15.58 | Anders1 | really |
| 17:16.04 | Anders1 | i have like 20 kernels in my /boot :D |
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| 17:16.15 | Anders1 | im lazy, so i never remove them |
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| 17:16.17 | dvs | Anders1: Unless you want to keep about 70 kernels, yes |
| 17:16.31 | kbrooks | andrewski, ping |
| 17:16.32 | kbrooks | :P |
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| 17:16.49 | andrewski | is there a way to add local packages and install via apt? like what gentoo calls a 'package overlay'? |
| 17:16.52 | andrewski | kbrooks: :) |
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| 17:17.30 | valdyn | andrewski: you can simply "dpkg -i package.deb" |
| 17:17.33 | Chrissy2k5 | hey can anyone help me with this ? .. when i do adduser testy for example .. it asks me for pass . then confirm pass .. then it asks me for ingo like name etc right ? welll .... Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default |
| 17:17.33 | YamahaRx800 | does any one know how to encode flacs to mp3s using the command line? |
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| 17:17.47 | Chrissy2k5 | then it asks me for the info again.. and it loops again and again and again.. til i enter an invalid chracter for example :blah ... can anyone help please ? |
| 17:17.48 | kbrooks | valdyn, doesnt count |
| 17:17.49 | Epixc | CAN /boot be logical? |
| 17:18.00 | FieldySnuts | good question. I doubt it. |
| 17:18.03 | YamahaRx800 | does any one know how to encode flacs to mp3s using the command line? |
| 17:18.04 | andrewski | valdyn: yes, but i'd like to use apt to install so that when a newer version is available in my repositories, that one will automagically be upgraded. |
| 17:18.21 | andrewski | valdyn: again, ala gentoo. |
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| 17:18.49 | dvs | Epixc: You only need a /boot partition if your computer can't recognize partitions that are larger than 1024 cylinders |
| 17:18.50 | PerfDave | andrewski: Uhm, just use a file: URL in your sources.list |
| 17:18.52 | YamahaRx800 | does any one know how to encode flacs to mp3s using the command line? |
| 17:18.53 | valdyn | andrewski: /etc/apt/sources.list can have entries starting with file:// for local stuff, dpkg-scanpackages can generate Packages files, read its manpage.. |
| 17:18.55 | roo9 | does anyone know how I can force SSH to connect using a specific source port? |
| 17:18.58 | Chrissy2k5 | hey can anyone help me with this ? .. when i do adduser testy for example .. it asks me for pass . then confirm pass .. then it asks me for ingo like name etc right ? welll .... Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default |
| 17:19.01 | Chrissy2k5 | then it asks me for the info again.. and it loops again and again and again.. til i enter an invalid chracter for example :blah ... can anyone help please ? |
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| 17:19.06 | andrewski | valdyn: ok, thanks a lot. |
| 17:19.15 | Chrissy2k5 | info* |
| 17:19.24 | treestone | andrewski: Sure you can, I'm doing just that. But I don't remember exactly which helper tool I used to create the Packages file (which is the only single extra thing you have to do in addition to creating a directory structure) :-) |
| 17:19.24 | YamahaRx800 | does any one know how to encode flacs to mp3s using the command line? |
| 17:19.31 | FieldySnuts | @repeat YamahaRx800 |
| 17:19.36 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: ? |
| 17:19.37 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 17:19.40 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: repeat? |
| 17:19.41 | ravenbird | If nobody answers your question, don't just repeat it; we all heard you the first time. more likely, nobody knows the answer (/msg dpkg ask), or you need to provide more information (/msg dpkg sicco)), or ask me about "rephrase", or there are people who will refuse to help you at all after you've spammed the channel with the same request. |
| 17:19.47 | Epixc | why ext2 for /boot? |
| 17:19.47 | treestone | andrewski: Ah, I probably used dpkg-scanpackages |
| 17:19.51 | YamahaRx800 | does any one know how to encode flacs to mp3s using the command line? |
| 17:19.56 | FieldySnuts | @stfu YamahaRx800 |
| 17:19.58 | ravenbird | SHUT THE FUCK UP YamahaRx800! |
| 17:20.01 | andrewski | treestone: dpkg-scanpackages, like valdyn just said? |
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| 17:20.26 | valdyn | andrewski: /msg dpkg repository if you want something more sophisticated ( or understand this better ) |
| 17:20.27 | YamahaRx800 | omg im gust asking |
| 17:20.34 | YamahaRx800 | just** |
| 17:20.34 | treestone | andrewski: Yes, but I actually have a web server too, so that I can use deb http://.. |
| 17:20.38 | FieldySnuts | yeah, over and over and over, and it's irritating |
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| 17:20.45 | PerfDave | YamahaRx800: Something that dumps flac to WAV / PCM on stdout, piped into am MP3 encoder? |
| 17:20.46 | andrewski | treestone: [shrugs] ok. |
| 17:20.48 | YamahaRx800 | ok ok ok |
| 17:20.59 | andrewski | valdyn: sophisticated? is that an IRC helper? |
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| 17:21.07 | PerfDave | YamahaRx800: There are no MP3 encoders in Debian for patent reasons, why not use Vorbis instead? |
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| 17:21.28 | valdyn | andrewski: i could have said "tuned" or "finely tuned" |
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| 17:21.35 | valdyn | andrewski: or complicated |
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| 17:21.53 | YamahaRx800 | PerfDave: because i want to put it on my ipod |
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| 17:22.23 | andrewski | ah, valdyn. you mean that that webpage is a bit more complicated/finely tuned? |
| 17:22.29 | PerfDave | YamahaRx800: Oh, you're another idiot who fell for the Crapple hype. |
| 17:22.44 | valdyn | andrewski: just read it. |
| 17:22.45 | andrewski | PerfDave: well, that's not very nice. |
| 17:23.02 | YamahaRx800 | PerfDave: i like it tho |
| 17:23.09 | andrewski | valdyn: ok. i don't really have a lot of time now, just wanted to know if it's possible. saved the link, read later. thanks a lot. :) |
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| 17:23.17 | PerfDave | andrewski: *shrug* |
| 17:23.23 | PerfDave | YamahaRx800: More fool you then. |
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| 17:23.41 | treestone | Send a mail to apple every day, complain about missing ogg support. Tell your friends. |
| 17:23.47 | toad_ | anyone know of a simple debianized script that will tell iptables to block a given IP if it gets 5 consecutive ssh attempts on invalid users from that address? |
| 17:23.49 | sjhill | n00b idiot question: can i safely assume that the latest libc6 in unstable has NPTL support? |
| 17:23.57 | andrewski | YamahaRx800: it is possible, but i don't know how. read flac's manpage, lame's, and maybe look at a few websites. google a bit and you'll probably find just what you need. |
| 17:24.02 | CharlesBrown | who cares the ipod sucks anyway |
| 17:24.08 | CharlesBrown | There are plenty of players that support ogg |
| 17:24.15 | PerfDave | treestone: Or buy one of the umpteen players that support real formats and don't fuck you over repeatedly with DRM. |
| 17:24.21 | YamahaRx800 | PerfDave: i waz gunna get an iriver but i couldent find one it the stores to look at it |
| 17:24.36 | andrewski | CharlesBrown: and yet, YamahaRx800 doesn't have one. so why don't we help instead of complaining about notmyplayer? |
| 17:24.37 | CharlesBrown | yea, that's what I would get. |
| 17:24.38 | YamahaRx800 | andrewski: thanks for the advice |
| 17:24.39 | CharlesBrown | An iriver |
| 17:24.46 | andrewski | YamahaRx800: yw |
| 17:24.52 | treestone | PerfDave: Sure, but in the complaint you'll of course mention that you won't buy before they fix it :-) |
| 17:25.04 | oZt | what is flac? |
| 17:25.11 | PerfDave | treestone: I wouldn't buy an iPod even if it did support Vorbis, because I don't want to give money to Apple. |
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| 17:25.20 | PerfDave | oZt: Ogg FLAC is a lossless audio compression algorithm. |
| 17:25.24 | PerfDave | !falc |
| 17:25.25 | PerfDave | !flac |
| 17:25.25 | dpkg | flac is probably the Free Lossless Audio Codec, gives 30-50% compression on PCM audio. See http://flac.sourceforge.net/ for details on the format, or apt-get install flac xmms-flac to try it out (if you have xmms, of course). |
| 17:25.26 | treestone | My Palm TomTom Navigator uses ogg files for the sound, btw. |
| 17:25.28 | CharlesBrown | !tell andrewski about die |
| 17:25.46 | andrewski | CharlesBrown: oh, that's very nice. thanks. |
| 17:25.54 | kbrooks | "Trivial repositories consist of one root directory and of as many subdirectories as you wish." |
| 17:25.59 | kbrooks | hmmm. cool. |
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| 17:26.15 | kbrooks | i guess ill create my own repository |
| 17:26.18 | andrewski | kbrooks: yes, sounds like exactly what i want. :) |
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| 17:26.31 | De_Mon | I tried to use vim to replace ^M with \n but now I have a huge one line file full of ^@'s heeeelp |
| 17:26.46 | andrewski | De_Mon: #vim |
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| 17:26.54 | treestone | De_Mon: You now have a file full of binary zeroes.. |
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| 17:27.09 | cindux | Could anyone tell me how to run visudo ? |
| 17:27.09 | humbolt | my quotas are set in blocks. how big is a block? |
| 17:27.11 | cindux | <-newb |
| 17:27.27 | kbrooks | cindux, su, type your pass |
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| 17:27.36 | treestone | humbolt: 512 bytes possibly. I don't use quotas though. |
| 17:27.41 | kbrooks | EDITOR=editor visudo |
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| 17:27.50 | De_Mon | treestone ahh... my hero, how did you know what ^@ stood for? |
| 17:27.50 | humbolt | they can be different on every fs, cant' they? |
| 17:27.56 | Paganist | Anyone could help me about this ? i want to implement a cluster without master node, meaning i want the SSI image to be independant of any node in case a node even beeing the node which started the server could shutdown |
| 17:28.01 | kbrooks | fill in the editor |
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| 17:28.09 | treestone | De_Mon: Er, it's from that 70's poster I keep on my office wall... |
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| 17:28.14 | kbrooks | could be vi, could be gedit, nano, etc |
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| 17:28.29 | kbrooks | heh |
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| 17:28.31 | pi | damnit |
| 17:28.36 | pi | I meant to come in here for a procmail problem. |
| 17:28.43 | kbrooks | ask. |
| 17:28.45 | azrael_ | Yo guys |
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| 17:28.48 | pi | But then I couldnt get my epic client to join a frikken channal |
| 17:28.54 | De_Mon | err okay, well its fixed just the same thanks agian |
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| 17:29.07 | pi | had to comment out all my load lines in .ircrc... |
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| 17:29.36 | kbrooks | OK |
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| 17:29.42 | pi | So basically,.. I have a script loading up in my ircrc file, and when I have it loaded, I cannot join a channel.. I can't even change my nick basically, no /* commands |
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| 17:30.05 | pi | but I can get on another server (fbsd) and use the exact same script, and the exact same epic client.. and it does fine. |
| 17:30.09 | pi | anyone know what could cause that? |
| 17:30.11 | azrael_ | I've just moved my laptop from Gentoo to Debian 3.1. I've been using Linux for just over a year now, and learnt with Gentoo. I have a few questions about Debian, as there seems to be quite a few differences between the two distros, would anyone be willing to help me out? |
| 17:30.13 | pzn | Hi! can you point me to cd writer configuration with kernel 2.6/modules and cdrdao/cdrecord? |
| 17:30.30 | valdyn | !tell azrael_ about ask |
| 17:30.47 | PerfDave | azrael_: The FAQ might be a good place to start. |
| 17:30.54 | pi | Yo. |
| 17:31.12 | pi | so i'll start with the epic/irc/script problem. |
| 17:31.13 | azrael_ | Ok, well, allot of the config files seem to be in different places. |
| 17:31.15 | pi | anyone got any ideas. |
| 17:31.16 | pi | anyone got any ideas.? |
| 17:31.25 | valdyn | pzn: what configuration? whats there to configure? |
| 17:31.27 | kbrooks | don't repeat, 3.14 |
| 17:31.30 | azrael_ | For a start, where is the /etc/rc.conf file, or equivilent? |
| 17:31.35 | drac | pzn: /etc/cdrecord/cdrecord |
| 17:31.42 | humbolt | Why are quotas in blocks? Blocks can be different on every fs so that does not make much sense, does it? |
| 17:31.45 | pi | sorry, accidentally hit the up button before inserting my '?' |
| 17:31.51 | drac | valdyn: e.g. default max speed |
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| 17:32.22 | valdyn | drac: cdrecord --help |
| 17:32.32 | azrael_ | Also, where is the /etc/conf.d/keymaps file? |
| 17:32.45 | azrael_ | or /etc/init.d/net.eth* devices? |
| 17:32.52 | drac | valdyn: and you can make permanent changes with just options given to cdrecord? hardly.. |
| 17:32.59 | pi | okay, well if there aren't any takers on the irc/epic problem.. then how about the procmail prob. |
| 17:32.59 | valdyn | azrael_: /etc/init.d/README |
| 17:33.06 | azrael_ | valdyn, thanks |
| 17:33.12 | pi | actually.. there's a channel for procmail isnt therE? |
| 17:33.15 | valdyn | azrael_: man interfaces for network things |
| 17:33.39 | azrael_ | valdyn, I take it they are handled quite different then? |
| 17:33.39 | pi | whoa. |
| 17:33.46 | pi | don't ever do a /list |
| 17:33.46 | chefkoch-2oo4 | how do i install 3d support for nvidia cards with nforce4 pci express chipset? cant find an tutorial. |
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| 17:34.27 | PerfDave | chefkoch-2oo4: For nvidia drivers, /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 17:34.32 | PerfDave | !rc.conf |
| 17:34.34 | azrael_ | valdyn, for example, if I wanted my network device to be restarted I'de simply do /etc/init.d/net.eth* restart. |
| 17:34.35 | pzn | sorry, my question was not good. I need to use my cdwriter. It is LG IDE 52/32/52x. using debian kernel 2.6.8-2-k7. dmesg shows cd at hdb. cdrecord -scanbus does not find it. where to start? do I need to load a module? |
| 17:34.52 | Champagne | pi: #procmail |
| 17:34.55 | PerfDave | azrael_: Debian uses ifup, ifdown and /etc/network/interfaces for networking |
| 17:35.04 | Paganist | Anyone could help me about this ? i want to implement a cluster without master node, meaning i want the SSI image to be independant of any node in case a node even beeing the node which started the server could shutdown |
| 17:35.06 | azrael_ | PerfDave, thank-you |
| 17:35.16 | drac | pzn: cdrecord --dev=ATAPI --scanbus |
| 17:35.26 | PerfDave | azrael_: Like I say, the FAQ may be helpful for you. |
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| 17:35.35 | BrianAnthony | where can I edit x to load fluxbox instead of gnome |
| 17:35.41 | BrianAnthony | I don't have gdm installed |
| 17:36.04 | Chrissy2k5 | hey can anyone help me with this ? .. when i do adduser testy for example .. it asks me for pass . then confirm pass .. then it asks me for info like name etc right ? welll .... Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default |
| 17:36.07 | Chrissy2k5 | then it asks me for the info again.. and it loops again and again and again.. til i enter an invalid chracter for example :blah ... can anyone help please ? |
| 17:36.16 | azrael_ | PerfDave, okay will do... I took a look at the Wiki first, but that seems to be under construction mostly. |
| 17:36.25 | doleyb | Chrissy2k5: are you missing the [y/n] at the end? |
| 17:36.33 | Chrissy2k5 | i said Y |
| 17:36.37 | pzn | chefkoch-2oo4, look at nvidia web site, they have a driver for X11 that has 3d enabled. you must get it and install. |
| 17:36.45 | treestone | BrianAnthony: How do you start X? startx? A line of 'fluxbox' in $HOME/.xinitrc might work |
| 17:36.56 | Champagne | BrianAnthony: what dm have you got installed¿ |
| 17:36.58 | BrianAnthony | I use startx, yes |
| 17:36.59 | chefkoch-2oo4 | BrianAnthony: /etc/rc.conf |
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| 17:37.26 | BrianAnthony | Champagne: none as I know of? |
| 17:37.28 | madroach | Hi, I'm just wondering where to put things like the eval $(lesspipe). I want this read for all interactive shells, weather login shell or not. |
| 17:37.33 | azrael_ | chefkoch-2oo4, there is no /etc/rc.conf |
| 17:37.48 | kbrooks | ok |
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| 17:38.05 | Antonio` | hi |
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| 17:38.39 | kbrooks | i'm creating a repo. i want it to have a SPECIFIC category of packages. any recommendations of a category |
| 17:38.43 | azrael_ | PerfDave, are all distro's this different. I mean, config files, the general feel of the OS and how things are done? |
| 17:38.44 | Chrissy2k5 | its just keeps looping . can anyone help? |
| 17:38.55 | Antonio` | Please, how can I search for a file in /home/antonio which *CONTAINS* the line create table t1 ( ? |
| 17:39.06 | azrael_ | PerfDave, I learnt on Gentoo you see, so I'm accustomed to the Gentoo way of things. |
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| 17:39.15 | PerfDave | azrael_: Debian is the most strictly conforming to various standards like the LSB and FHS, so far as I know. |
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| 17:39.25 | doleyb | Antonio`: "find /home/antonio -exec grep create\ table \{\} \;" |
| 17:39.29 | shadow98 | what is the command to download an http link from command line or through ssh |
| 17:39.40 | PerfDave | azrael_: There's a fair amount of discrepancy between distros, which is why I just use Debian for everything. |
| 17:39.41 | madroach | Antonio`: grep -r "create table t1" * |
| 17:39.43 | PerfDave | shadow98: wget |
| 17:39.44 | doleyb | Antonio: or you could use grep -r "create table" ~ |
| 17:39.52 | treestone | Antonio`: Even better: grep -H |
| 17:39.58 | shadow98 | thanks i was trying mget |
| 17:40.05 | shadow98 | one letter off |
| 17:40.23 | kbrooks | hello? |
| 17:40.26 | kbrooks | i'm creating a repo. i want it to have a SPECIFIC category of packages. any recommendations of a category? |
| 17:40.28 | pzn | drac, it detected the cdrw, but it does not seem to work. error: "cannot set writing speed to 16" any hint? |
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| 17:40.37 | azrael_ | PerfDave, heh, okay :) I've also noticed that the software seems quite different on Debian. Do the packagers add features them selves? |
| 17:40.39 | Antonio` | thank you all I try it out |
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| 17:40.50 | madroach | Hey, where do I have to put commands which I want to be executed in every login shell? |
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| 17:40.58 | pzn | drac, do I need any kernel module for it to work? |
| 17:41.35 | madroach | s/login/interactive/ |
| 17:41.46 | PerfDave | azrael_: Every distribution's packagers modify upstream sources, for a variety of reasons. Debian's packagers need to make sure that all their software conforms with filesystem policy, for example, where some software (like qmail) does something different. |
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| 17:42.16 | candc540 | how do i make an app launch at boot time? |
| 17:42.21 | Champagne | madroach: It's depend of your shell's variables |
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| 17:42.23 | drac | pzn: and what if you manually set some speed for it? e.g. 40? no, you don't need any extra modules. besides normal ide_cd, cdrom .. |
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| 17:42.29 | kbrooks | link me to the ho |
| 17:42.31 | kbrooks | wto |
| 17:42.34 | kbrooks | er |
| 17:42.35 | azrael_ | PerfDave, I see, thanks :) |
| 17:42.38 | PerfDave | candc540: Which application? YOu have a variety of options, some will be more suitable than others. |
| 17:42.42 | Champagne | madroach: by default /usr/bin |
| 17:42.45 | kbrooks | link me to the howto on building packages? |
| 17:42.49 | candc540 | mythbackend |
| 17:42.59 | PerfDave | candc540: What is that? |
| 17:43.08 | PerfDave | kbrooks: http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 17:43.11 | PerfDave | !n-m kbrooks |
| 17:43.20 | PerfDave | Gah |
| 17:43.31 | kbrooks | dpkg, tell kbrooks about n-m |
| 17:43.33 | PerfDave | !dnm |
| 17:43.33 | dpkg | Debian New Maintainers' Guide, Debian Policy Manual and Debian Developer's Reference - if you are a deb-newbie read them in this order, found at http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals |
| 17:43.34 | candc540 | it's the mythtv backend |
| 17:43.43 | candc540 | schedules recording times etc |
| 17:44.05 | pzn | drac, if I don't set speed manually, it tries to write at 52x, but fails. if I manually set speed to 16, it fails with "writting speed 16 not supported by device". already tried other values from 4 to 32. |
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| 17:44.08 | PerfDave | candc540: Is it a daemon? I'd be surprised if it didn't already have an initscript to start it at boot; try looking in /etc/init.d/ |
| 17:44.18 | PerfDave | candc540: How do you start it manually? |
| 17:44.19 | pzn | drac, when I had kernel 2.4 + scsi emulation, it worked ok. |
| 17:44.20 | madroach | Champagne: Oh, this was a misunderstanding. I am looking for a file like /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc, where I can put commands to be executed in every interactive shell. |
| 17:44.23 | candc540 | yeah i guess you could call it that |
| 17:44.28 | candc540 | just mythbackend |
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| 17:44.30 | candc540 | that's it |
| 17:44.41 | madroach | Champagne: Oh, this was a misunderstanding. I am looking for a file like /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc, where I can put commands to be executed in every interactive shell. |
| 17:44.48 | madroach | sorry |
| 17:44.58 | xlr8 | hello, i set an iptables rule in the chain OUTPUT for sending all Packets to the target QUEUE. i read these packets with a user-process, and i want to find the process which sent the packet. is that possible ? thx |
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| 17:45.07 | PerfDave | candc540: You could use an @reboot cronjob, or an initscript. But I'd check to see whether there's a script already on your system which isn't running for some reason. |
| 17:45.43 | candc540 | nothing in init.d |
| 17:46.14 | candc540 | so i can just add a file called myth to cron and start it there? |
| 17:46.15 | PerfDave | candc540: The easy way to do it is an @reboot cronjob then |
| 17:46.32 | candc540 | how exactly does one do that? |
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| 17:46.41 | PerfDave | candc540: man 5 crontab |
| 17:46.43 | candc540 | new to cron and init.d |
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| 17:46.44 | candc540 | ok |
| 17:46.46 | Champagne | madroach: no problem |
| 17:46.48 | candc540 | i'll check it out |
| 17:46.52 | candc540 | thanks for the into |
| 17:46.56 | PerfDave | No wories |
| 17:46.58 | candc540 | *info |
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| 17:47.33 | bandito | running sarge, just apt-get update && apt-get upgraded and now my mouse in X doesn't work any more, anyone else get this? |
| 17:47.54 | madroach | Champagne: I have to put them into both startup files, don't I? |
| 17:49.05 | Champagne | madroach: really I'm not sure and I don't want to make you go wrong. Sorry |
| 17:49.17 | bandito | there are no errors reported in the console, and my config of course is the same |
| 17:50.31 | pzn | drac: solved. I should use ATA instead of ATAPI. now it works as expected! :-) |
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| 17:52.02 | td_ | I am trying to use set my intel pro wireless 2200 bg card into montior mode |
| 17:52.11 | drac | pzn: great it works, and noted for future. ;) |
| 17:52.22 | td_ | but everytime I say iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor |
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| 17:52.44 | td_ | it says Error for wireless mode |
| 17:52.57 | td_ | SET failed on device wlan0; Invalid argument |
| 17:53.06 | cbr | how can i switch my default gcc to gcc 3.4? |
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| 17:56.51 | bandito | running sarge, just apt-get update && apt-get upgraded and now my mouse in X doesn't work any more, anyone else get this? configuration is the same, mouse is the same, only difference is now i'm at 4.3.0.dsfg.1-12.0.1 |
| 17:57.21 | td_ | are you using xfree86 or Xorg |
| 17:57.25 | bandito | xfree86 |
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| 17:57.40 | Eclipser | I just upgraded too and my ps/2 mousepad works fine :) |
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| 18:01.15 | ZorroPlateado | i have a file with 4'1 GB and i can't burn this file with growisofs: Value too large for defined data type, |
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| 18:02.48 | adexta | what's a decent filesharing program i can apt-get? |
| 18:03.19 | dvs | adexta: I like limewire |
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| 18:03.30 | adexta | can i apt-get it? |
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| 18:03.41 | dvs | adexta: You have to have java installed first |
| 18:04.01 | adexta | E: Couldn't find package java |
| 18:04.06 | drac | dvs: Hmm, does limewire handle dc-hubs (same way as dc++/valknut/etc.) ? |
| 18:04.07 | td_ | apt-get does that though doenst it? i mean get all fo the dependancies |
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| 18:04.27 | dvs | drac: I don't know what a dc hub is. |
| 18:04.36 | drac | ok, i'll just try. |
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| 18:05.28 | Champagne | adexta: because if you want java you must download it from www.java.com and install it manually |
| 18:05.43 | adexta | bother. |
| 18:05.53 | Eclipser | !java-package |
| 18:05.54 | dpkg | somebody said java-package was the new name for mpkg-j2se... err, I mean j2se-package... DAMN IT, CAN'T THEY PICK A NAME?! Anyway, it lets you build a .deb file from Sun's non-free upstream Java distributions. See "man make-jpkg". Cf. "make-kpkg" (from kernel-package).only in sarge and sid currently, but it's a -all package, so it's safe to use it in woody. This packages lives in 'contrib', so make sure you have that in your sources.list. |
| 18:06.57 | Champagne | adexta: it comes with an autoinstaller I you won't have problems to get it working on your system |
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| 18:07.14 | dvs | adexta: It's pretty easy |
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| 18:07.48 | flaxo | .,- |
| 18:07.50 | Eclipser | java-package is nice :) |
| 18:08.12 | adexta | what do i do with a .bin? |
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| 18:08.36 | SEcki | does the java package install the sun or the GNU java? |
| 18:08.38 | Champagne | adexta: chmod -R a+x |
| 18:08.43 | dvs | SEcki: sun |
| 18:08.43 | Eclipser | SEcki, sun |
| 18:09.17 | ZorroPlateado | cdwrtool versus growisofs to files 2 GB???? |
| 18:09.33 | Eclipser | erm? |
| 18:09.37 | Eclipser | what? |
| 18:09.57 | Champagne | adexta: or chmod +755 xxxxx.bin |
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| 18:10.30 | Champagne | adexta: in order to make it executable |
| 18:10.30 | valdyn | adexta: make-jpkg file.bin , executing it wont integrate well with debian |
| 18:10.54 | Eclipser | you need to install java-package first |
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| 18:11.12 | mud | and java-common i think |
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| 18:11.19 | Di``` | I need some help to findo anything that help me to install promise 378, using debian sarge 2.6. I'm in the Partition Disks and i see my two disks, but if i'm using one Array of disks in the fastbuild utility, it would have show just ONE disks, right ? |
| 18:11.20 | Di``` | maybe i need to set up partitions exacly the same in both ? |
| 18:11.35 | Eclipser | !info java-common sarge |
| 18:11.38 | dpkg | java-common: (Base of all Java packages), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.22 (sarge), Packaged size: 66 kB, Installed size: 296 kB |
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| 18:12.11 | adexta | why won't this install as easily as it did on windows??? |
| 18:12.23 | adexta | or SUSE? |
| 18:12.28 | Mash | i'm back |
| 18:12.35 | valdyn | adexta: its actually easier than windows, but probably harder than suse |
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| 18:12.47 | Eclipser | because there's no official java package for debian |
| 18:12.53 | imachine | hey. |
| 18:12.58 | imachine | how can i use dri/drm on debian: |
| 18:12.58 | imachine | ? |
| 18:13.17 | td_ | hey can smebody help me try to monitor my wireless lan using wireless tools? |
| 18:13.31 | td_ | cause iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor |
| 18:13.34 | td_ | doesnt work |
| 18:13.47 | drac | imachine: depends on your card.. |
| 18:14.01 | valdyn | td_: why do you think that your interface is called "wlan0" ? |
| 18:14.13 | td_ | cause iwconfig lists it as that |
| 18:14.29 | td_ | and I can connect to other wireless networks |
| 18:14.42 | adexta | why don't we make a java.deb? |
| 18:14.52 | drac | adexta: java-package does just that. |
| 18:14.53 | td_ | cause it spropiertary |
| 18:14.58 | valdyn | td_: looks like your driver / hardware combination doesnt support monitor mode, for all i know |
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| 18:15.28 | td_ | no, I think it does work |
| 18:15.57 | td_ | but the error message I get is "SET failed on device wlan0; Invalid argument" |
| 18:15.58 | valdyn | td_: maybe, im by no means a wireless export, it "just works" for me. |
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| 18:16.20 | valdyn | td_: ifwconfig wlan0 mode monitor is correct however |
| 18:16.41 | td_ | yeah, I keep feeling like the man page isnt up to date or osmething tho, becuase it seems like it would work |
| 18:17.09 | valdyn | td_: that command should indeed work.. |
| 18:17.57 | valdyn | td_: tryied to google "youcard monitor mode linux" ? |
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| 18:18.59 | Mash | valdyn, harder than suse debian is great and easy :-)A |
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| 18:19.03 | Di``` | nobody knows about promise raid ? |
| 18:19.03 | Mash | -A |
| 18:19.18 | valdyn | Mash: hmm? |
| 18:19.22 | td_ | oh I just found something that said the problem lies in the firmware of the ipw2200 card |
| 18:19.28 | td_ | so I guess it is my card |
| 18:19.30 | Mash | valdyn, easier than SuSE |
| 18:19.46 | valdyn | Di```: its not a real raid card, treat it as a no-raid interface in linux |
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| 18:20.13 | rafx | i recently rebooted sarge and noticed /var/log was entirely recreated (no /var/log/apache2 directory, ...). how do i track down what happened? |
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| 18:20.49 | Gh0sty | hm, what is standard behavior when you boot a kernel that isn't fit for your machine's cpu (say boot k7 kernel on intel machine) |
| 18:21.32 | dvs | Gh0sty: kernel panic |
| 18:21.48 | Gh0sty | hm, then i have another problem :s |
| 18:21.57 | Mash | valdyn Mash: hmm? <--- ? |
| 18:22.10 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | hellos |
| 18:22.14 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | hello |
| 18:22.27 | valdyn | Mash: i dont know suse.. what are you trying to tell me though? |
| 18:22.46 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | linux is exelent |
| 18:22.54 | Mash | valdyn, okok forgott it |
| 18:22.55 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | is very good |
| 18:23.02 | Gh0sty | trying to install sarge on my router (celeron 1100), installation runs fine (even tough i detected it installs a k7 smp kernel) but when i boot up with either lilo or grub it just quits after the line saying booting kernel now ... |
| 18:23.02 | Di``` | valdyn: its impossible work ? i just have a problem...i dont see the ARRAY of disks that i see on the BIOS. |
| 18:23.37 | valdyn | Di```: its not a raid controller for linux, it should still work |
| 18:24.14 | Gh0sty | could it be that kernel doesn't boot when i setup sarge with lvm on older machines?? :s |
| 18:24.14 | Noldo | Gh0sty: the problem is the wrong kernel |
| 18:24.23 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | I am from argentina |
| 18:24.28 | Gh0sty | yes, but it doesn't give kernel panic |
| 18:24.39 | Gh0sty | it just freezes at the point it should load my kernel |
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| 18:24.57 | Di``` | valdyn: do you think that is more easy and better i use soft-raid linux? |
| 18:24.59 | Denis1981 | hi |
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| 18:25.14 | valdyn | Di```: thats your only raid choice with that controller |
| 18:25.20 | Noldo | Gh0sty: yes, that's what it does when trying to run kernel using code that doesn't on present prosessor |
| 18:25.35 | valdyn | Di```: and no, i think raid on such an interface is pointless |
| 18:25.43 | Champagne | ArGeNtO_100x100: yo tambien |
| 18:25.49 | Gh0sty | but how come it installs this kernel?? |
| 18:25.50 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | ehh |
| 18:25.55 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | aguante |
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| 18:26.08 | Gh0sty | i set it up on the intel celeron box, and it installs a k7 smp kernel ??? |
| 18:26.09 | Noldo | Gh0sty: did it give you options? |
| 18:26.15 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | champagne aguante el diego |
| 18:26.17 | Champagne | ArGeNtO_100x100: si, lo que pasa es que los sitios en español son una basura |
| 18:26.18 | valdyn | Gh0sty: b/c you installed it? |
| 18:26.29 | Gh0sty | haven't seen any option, just took the linux26 install option |
| 18:26.30 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | si |
| 18:26.40 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | no hay casi nadiiiie en sitios españoles |
| 18:26.43 | valdyn | Gh0sty: then its a 386 kernel, NOT a k7 |
| 18:26.55 | Noldo | Gh0sty: report the bug then |
| 18:27.13 | Champagne | ArGeNtO_100x100: si, ademas hablan de boludeces no mas menos, de lo ultimo que hablan es de debian |
| 18:27.18 | Gh0sty | not it says: installing kernel-2.6.8-2-k7-smp |
| 18:27.30 | Di``` | valdyn: hmmm |
| 18:27.30 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | si |
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| 18:28.01 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | che, champagne tenes bittorrent |
| 18:28.03 | Gh0sty | i don't know how old the image is however ... |
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| 18:28.15 | Gh0sty | could be this is a rather old release of sarge :) |
| 18:28.15 | Champagne | ArGeNtO_100x100: si |
| 18:28.20 | revenger_ | does anyone know an usb dvb-t/analog device which works with linux? |
| 18:28.42 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | que pelis bajas?? |
| 18:28.58 | Noldo | Gh0sty: rc3 of the installer was just released :) |
| 18:29.03 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | entra a www.btarg.com.ar champagne |
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| 18:29.13 | Champagne | ArGeNtO_100x100: ok |
| 18:29.14 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | estan las de exterminator |
| 18:29.28 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | a mi me gusta la de los bañeros |
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| 18:29.30 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | jajaaj |
| 18:29.33 | valdyn | ArGeNtO_100x100: this is an english language channel |
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| 18:29.47 | Gh0sty | ok i'll try a new image (and now proper labeling which version it is ...) |
| 18:29.49 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | yeah |
| 18:29.51 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | sorry |
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| 18:30.06 | lzsilva | hello all.....after some minutes whitout action, my monitor go black in X. how can i disable it ? |
| 18:30.08 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | valdyn anda a cagar |
| 18:30.43 | Champagne | valdyn: please apologize us, the fact is that power debian users are english speakers |
| 18:30.49 | sao | hi all, can somebody help me? i want to make my TV work with my Notebook (Nvidia GPU) pls i have connected it with a SVideo Cable PLS X config doesnt work, now i backed up to Notebook LCD only again cause last try my whole system was only hyroglyphics showing ;-( |
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| 18:32.05 | sao | hello ? |
| 18:32.10 | sao | someone help me pls ? |
| 18:32.14 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | hello |
| 18:32.17 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | sao |
| 18:32.31 | sao | hi, may i message you with my prob ? |
| 18:32.33 | valdyn | sao: are you using nvidias driver? or the free "nv" ? |
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| 18:32.53 | sao | i think im not that noob ;-) nvidia of cause man ;-) |
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| 18:33.31 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | los que no entienden esto se la comen |
| 18:33.37 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | jajajaja |
| 18:33.53 | thingfish | you are getting nasty, ArGeNtO_100x100 |
| 18:33.58 | sao | but till today i never tried making a tv work under X and i solved some problems with X like my resolution of 1280x800 of my widescreen notebook lol |
| 18:34.27 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | I sorry |
| 18:34.33 | sao | so pls may i message you ? |
| 18:34.56 | sao | so not all have to read that and can go on solving other probs ;-) |
| 18:35.30 | adexta | where can i get an amule server list |
| 18:35.45 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | yea |
| 18:37.06 | valdyn | !fgi adexta amule+server+list |
| 18:37.07 | dpkg | adexta: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=amule+server+list |
| 18:37.07 | Champagne | adexta: wait me few seconds |
| 18:37.34 | Champagne | adexta: http://www.srv1000.com/azz/server.met |
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| 18:37.52 | racoontje | Moo :-) |
| 18:38.02 | racoontje | Moo :-) |
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| 18:38.55 | DigitALL | hi |
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| 18:39.23 | kalsn | Hey guys, I'm having trouble 'apt-get install(ing) vlc'.. It gives me a message telling me that it requires some lib-files.. I think it's something wrong with my source.list.. |
| 18:39.38 | sao | can someone help me pls, i may message to describe my problem ? i cant run my tv under debian linux ;-( using my nvidia card pls hlp |
| 18:40.02 | kalsn | Can anyone hook me up with a good source.list :) |
| 18:40.21 | sao | good is relative dont you think ? |
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| 18:40.35 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | alguien argentino?? |
| 18:40.42 | kalsn | ups :) |
| 18:40.43 | DigitALL | ArGeNtO_100x100, yo |
| 18:41.06 | sao | good is relative dont you think ? |
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| 18:41.11 | sao | can someone help me pls, i may message to describe my problem ? i cant run my tv under debian linux ;-( using my nvidia card pls hlp |
| 18:41.12 | Anders1 | What should i do if i want to see what processes which are using something on a specific partition? |
| 18:41.14 | Gnurdux | are there any mirros of d-i? |
| 18:41.41 | kalsn | I can't get 'apt-get install' to download and install vlc.. What's wrong? |
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| 18:41.59 | Gnurdux | are there any mirros of debian installer?? |
| 18:42.03 | tarzeau | kalsn: what does it say? |
| 18:42.06 | mud | kalsan: testing stable or? |
| 18:42.10 | tarzeau | Gnurdux: sure all official mirrors? |
| 18:42.17 | Gnurdux | what? |
| 18:42.23 | sao | can someone help me pls ? |
| 18:42.25 | tarzeau | sao: bttv driver? |
| 18:42.25 | Gnurdux | but those arent of cdimage.debian.org? |
| 18:42.37 | tarzeau | Gnurdux: d-i? |
| 18:42.39 | tarzeau | !d-i |
| 18:42.39 | dpkg | d-i is probably the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 18:42.40 | adexta | Gnurdux: i used the net install |
| 18:42.42 | sao | tarzeau may i message you ? |
| 18:42.45 | tarzeau | sao: no |
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| 18:42.48 | adexta | and a mirror on mit.edu |
| 18:42.52 | sao | thx |
| 18:42.55 | kalsn | tarzeau: It tells me that I need a bunch of lib-files |
| 18:42.56 | Gnurdux | so do i |
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| 18:43.02 | sao | can someone help me pls ? |
| 18:43.02 | tarzeau | kalsn: install them then! |
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| 18:43.11 | kalsn | It doesn't work |
| 18:43.24 | tarzeau | kalsn: why not? |
| 18:43.32 | kalsn | I don't know why... but last time i installed vlc I used a different source.list.. and it worked fine |
| 18:43.45 | sao | tarzeau: no tv card i mean TV-Out of my NVidia Card, want to watch my dvds on television ;-) |
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| 18:45.25 | PerfDave | sao: Do the Linux nvidia drivers support TV output? |
| 18:45.40 | sao | i think yes ? |
| 18:46.01 | kalsn | Can I get your source.list, tarzeau |
| 18:46.05 | kalsn | I think that would help |
| 18:46.06 | PerfDave | sao: Which one? The Free nv driver or the non-free nvidia? |
| 18:46.12 | tarzeau | kalsn: sure. telnet linuks.mine.nu |
| 18:46.12 | sao | is no one here using TVout under linux ? |
| 18:46.19 | tarzeau | sao: i did |
| 18:46.25 | tarzeau | sao: got a reso of 640x480? |
| 18:46.28 | sao | then pls help me man |
| 18:46.38 | tarzeau | sao: you need a low resolution |
| 18:46.46 | sao | what you mean with that ? 640 x 480 ? |
| 18:46.52 | sao | my is 1280x800 |
| 18:46.56 | tarzeau | sao: display resolution. hahaha |
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| 18:47.03 | sao | of cause |
| 18:47.05 | tarzeau | sao: and you think your tv monitor can display that? come on |
| 18:47.08 | tarzeau | sao: stop dreaming |
| 18:47.12 | sao | so you use twinview ? |
| 18:47.12 | kalsn | hmm... just type 'telnet linuks.mine.nu' tarzeau ? |
| 18:47.18 | tarzeau | kalsn: yes |
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| 18:47.28 | sao | i know he cant baby |
| 18:47.54 | kalsn | hmm.. is that your source.list? |
| 18:47.56 | kalsn | :D |
| 18:47.58 | tarzeau | kalsn: yes |
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| 18:48.27 | tarzeau | kalsn: don't be hilarious, i wouldn't have fun with stable |
| 18:48.27 | rafx | i'm getting both 'CONSOLE_LOG_LEVEL is of unaccepted value' and 'KERNEL_RINGBUF_SIZE is of unaccepted value' messages after a recent upgrade to syslog-ng 1.6.5-2 in Debian Sarge. this didn't happen with earlier 1.6 versions so i think it may be a problem with the debian package. any ideas how I can fix this? |
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| 18:49.17 | PerfDave | rafx: Did you check the BTS? |
| 18:49.26 | kalsn | I get an error with the last line in your source.list, tarzeau |
| 18:49.49 | rafx | PerfDave: apologies for my noobness, what is BTS? |
| 18:50.02 | tarzeau | kalsn: remove the last line then. what does the error say? |
| 18:50.03 | sao | so i looked in xf86config and the readme of nvidia driver made copy of my old config (good thank you) and changed resolution to 800x600) then used RGB-G (Germany) and set TVout format and another option like described in readme of nvidia driver ;-( but then my screen freezed and i only saw green signs (not readable) ;-( |
| 18:50.06 | drac | rafx: /topic |
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| 18:50.18 | tarzeau | kalsn: you know it's sid/unstable? |
| 18:50.21 | tarzeau | !sid faq |
| 18:50.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 18:50.23 | kalsn | tarzeau: , just that the line was formated wrong or something.. |
| 18:50.37 | tarzeau | kalsn: did you maybe forgot a newline at the last line? |
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| 18:50.46 | tarzeau | kalsn: do you use vi? |
| 18:50.51 | kalsn | nope |
| 18:50.57 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | hello |
| 18:51.07 | tarzeau | sao: stop telling fairy tales. and set your resolution to 640x480 |
| 18:51.17 | tarzeau | kalsn: try echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 18:51.23 | tarzeau | kalsn: then do the apt-get update again |
| 18:51.24 | kalsn | tarzeau: , not it worked with 'apt-get install vlc' :D |
| 18:51.24 | JavaUser810 | l |
| 18:51.34 | tarzeau | kalsn: the last line is my debian source repository |
| 18:51.43 | kalsn | What does that mean, exactly? |
| 18:51.55 | tarzeau | kalsn: you should apt-cache search vlc |
| 18:51.58 | kalsn | I'm just starting to figure this linux stuff out :) |
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| 18:52.13 | kalsn | What does 'apt-cache' do _ |
| 18:52.13 | kalsn | ? |
| 18:52.14 | tarzeau | kalsn: i noticed. but this is debian stuff |
| 18:52.23 | tarzeau | kalsn: type whatis apt-cache |
| 18:52.24 | sao | but in readme config it stood change resolution to 800x600 O R 640x480 did you ever test it ? but why shall 800x600 make my X crash and show green hyroglyphics ? isnt it more intelligent to think its another source of this prob ? |
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| 18:52.43 | rafx | PerfDave: yes, I checked BTS earlier today |
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| 18:53.32 | rafx | drac: thanks for the hint! that BTS url will save me a few clicks (been using packages.debian.org to get to bts). |
| 18:54.04 | kalsn | Thanks alot tarzeau :) |
| 18:54.26 | sao | tarzeau you use two configs and run only under your TV or your Monitor or do you use twinview to handle both at one time ? |
| 18:56.02 | leo | is important to use a firewall under linux? |
| 18:56.04 | sao | apt-cache is an search tool for your apt-reps so you can search for a keyword ', maybe NVU or something or p2p whatever |
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| 18:56.28 | valdyn | leo: how could we know if its important for you? |
| 18:56.28 | SEcki | leo: well ... |
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| 18:56.54 | sao | if you use it in a windows lan: yes |
| 18:57.04 | tarzeau | sao: i don't use twinview or so |
| 18:57.05 | montre | I'm trying to install Nvidia drivers on my new Debian Install, and Nvidia doesn't have a Interface for my Kernal, when attempting to build one it claims I don't have the Debian source to build a kernal for the interface. How can I fix this? I checked synaptic for source files and couldn't find any |
| 18:57.09 | tarzeau | leo: no |
| 18:57.17 | sao | not you tarzeau |
| 18:57.31 | rafx | it seems the debian-specific script, /etc/init.d/syslog-ng checks for KERNEL_RINGBUF_SIZE and CONSOLE_LOG_LEVEL. they're undefined in my install of sarge. is this a problem with my sarge setup or with syslog-ng package?. |
| 18:57.36 | sao | so how you make it use only TV ? |
| 18:57.37 | valdyn | !tell montre about nvidia one-liner |
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| 18:58.10 | Petro | not on me! |
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| 18:58.31 | montre | wow haha, thanks :P |
| 18:58.42 | sao | tarzeau, i think my prob is the hz vert an horiz. right ? but he said there is a way to detect!?!? can you send me your xf86config ? |
| 18:58.53 | valdyn | montre: and dont use the installer from nvidia.com |
| 18:59.10 | montre | oh, ok :o |
| 18:59.18 | montre | thx valdyn, I'll follow those steps |
| 18:59.21 | rafx | heh, i think i found the solution but its written in german |
| 18:59.27 | leo | hmm... i mean, in linux my connection ports are not wide-open as they are in windows |
| 18:59.39 | leo | that was a question |
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| 18:59.57 | tarzeau | sao: mines here www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/ |
| 19:00.08 | valdyn | leo: you linux, just as in windows, only those ports are open which have a service running behind them |
| 19:00.14 | valdyn | leo: on linux, just as in windows, only those ports are open which have a service running behind them |
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| 19:01.10 | adexta | okay, now how do i install limewire? |
| 19:01.16 | rafx | PerfDave: thanks, seems I missed a BTS entry about this (no keywords in title). much appreciated for the help. |
| 19:01.20 | td_ | hey, how do you chang ethe background in windowmaker? |
| 19:01.36 | sao | thx man i take a look |
| 19:01.37 | tarzeau | td_: wmsetbg or via menu |
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| 19:02.36 | sao | if you use linux with firewall, what you do expect, a w32 blaster or a microsoft service support user LOL if you fear attacks learn about SE Linux |
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| 19:02.50 | leo | valdyn: so, why is not so important to install a firewall in linux as it is in windows ? |
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| 19:03.14 | sao | tell ma a name of only one linux virus |
| 19:03.27 | valdyn | leo: hmm, firewalls are to some extent able to avoid some user idiocies. |
| 19:03.40 | adexta | !dpkg limewire |
| 19:03.40 | dpkg | it has been said that limewire is the coolest graphical gnutella client for both windows and linux. see http://www.limewire.com! GPL! apt-get install limewire. |
| 19:03.49 | valdyn | leo: ( talking about firewalls for 1 box here, a network is something completely different ) |
| 19:03.59 | adexta | E: Couldn't find package limewire |
| 19:04.05 | adexta | grrr |
| 19:04.25 | sao | port scans are made easy but no script kiddy handle steps after that (funny isnt it) easy to create a windows virus isnt it, all in p2p nets are sdks for such foolish usage LOL OWNAGE |
| 19:04.26 | adexta | can i change the location apt-get uses for getting packages? |
| 19:04.30 | valdyn | leo: are you running kde? gnome? xfce? |
| 19:04.33 | reagleBRKLN | anyone been able to use nxserver? |
| 19:05.27 | leo | valdyn: kde, that matters? |
| 19:05.27 | sao | under knoppix ? |
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| 19:05.30 | noloK | hi |
| 19:05.31 | valdyn | leo: you, a little, "firestarter" is a gtk2 firewall tool. pretty easy to use , so, try "apt-get install firestarter" if you just want a simple firewall |
| 19:05.39 | noloK | how i can change the refresh rate of my monitor? |
| 19:05.43 | leo | sao: sarge rc3 |
| 19:05.52 | noloK | any utility? |
| 19:06.18 | tarzeau | noloK: x or console? |
| 19:06.21 | sao | sarge ? |
| 19:06.28 | noloK | tarzeau X |
| 19:06.32 | tarzeau | !faq sao |
| 19:06.32 | dpkg | sao: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 19:06.36 | sao | i thought its about wm ??!?! |
| 19:06.38 | tarzeau | noloK: see the x config file |
| 19:06.38 | sao | lol |
| 19:06.41 | sao | thx guys |
| 19:07.10 | sao | you ever tried to make an own gentoo honey's? thats where i come from |
| 19:07.36 | sao | i sometimes miss emerge but apt is nice too i found out |
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| 19:08.09 | replaceafill | hello, does anyone know a smalltalk implementation for sarge? |
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| 19:08.55 | flaxo | help wanted on configuring alsa on a NON-graphic system... any takers?? |
| 19:09.00 | noloK | tarzeau VertRefresh? |
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| 19:09.10 | valdyn | !tell flaxo about alsa 2.6 |
| 19:09.14 | tarzeau | noloK: and horiz |
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| 19:09.28 | tgm | Xan anybody recommend a good pc that works well with sarge stock kernel, and stock X11? It preferably would run fine w/o downloading additional modules for thew kernel. |
| 19:09.34 | tgm | s.xan/can/ |
| 19:09.45 | tgm | s/./\// |
| 19:09.48 | valdyn | flaxo: if you are using a 2.4.x kernel theres just a little more work to do |
| 19:09.50 | sao | cool tarzeau thx |
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| 19:09.57 | sao | nice site yours ? |
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| 19:10.03 | tarzeau | sao: yes |
| 19:10.11 | noloK | tarzeau horiz is in KHz, i only want to change the refresh rate to 70Hz or above |
| 19:10.13 | sao | made with frontpage ;-) |
| 19:10.16 | tarzeau | sao: want something really cool? http://livecd.gnustep.org |
| 19:10.22 | sao | nice starting page |
| 19:10.25 | flaxo | valdyn: jupp using 2.4 kernel... |
| 19:10.26 | tarzeau | sao: definitely not |
| 19:10.34 | tarzeau | sao: made with mcedit |
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| 19:10.53 | valdyn | flaxo: a debian kernel? which one? |
| 19:10.59 | valdyn | flaxo: uname -r |
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| 19:11.17 | flaxo | 2.4.25-1-386 #2 |
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| 19:11.28 | flaxo | valdyn: 2.4.25-1-386 #2 |
| 19:11.29 | sao | mcedit an editor ? made my first page with notepad lol |
| 19:11.37 | montre | When running the "Nvidia One Liner": I get E: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernel-common |
| 19:11.37 | sao | thats professional |
| 19:11.43 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | aja veldyn |
| 19:11.46 | montre | is this due to a file name change at Nvidia? |
| 19:11.51 | green_earz | tgm: run knoppix on the box before hand is a good indecator for debian to run |
| 19:11.52 | valdyn | !info kernel-headers-2.4.25-1-386 |
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| 19:12.10 | tarzeau | green_earz: not if the box is not x86 |
| 19:12.14 | sao | tarzeau iam noob to irc is red color meaning to scream ? then how to scream ? |
| 19:12.15 | valdyn | flaxo: you would have to get the headers for that one from snapshot.debian.net , or do you have the headers installed already? |
| 19:12.25 | tarzeau | sao: i don't see colors |
| 19:12.31 | green_earz | tarzeau: true |
| 19:12.32 | tgm | Knoppix will run on anything... it runs on my laptop that debian chokes badly on. |
| 19:12.33 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.57 | valdyn | flaxo: dpkg -l | grep kernel-headers |
| 19:13.06 | green_earz | tgm: are you using the sarge installer ? |
| 19:13.13 | valdyn | flaxo: and .. you are running sarge? |
| 19:13.14 | sao | sometimes you are red colored, sometimes not (crazy if you dont thought a special command, u use shell irc client ? |
| 19:13.14 | flaxo | valdyn: check! headers are in plache... |
| 19:13.47 | tgm | green_earz: i will be |
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| 19:14.46 | valdyn | flaxo: are you running sarge? |
| 19:15.18 | flaxo | valdyn: well i am runnig an old 3.0 install with mostly testing software... |
| 19:15.20 | sao | tarzeau u like street fighter alpha ex2 ? |
| 19:15.27 | green_earz | tgm: use the 110 meg sarge net installer here is the link > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 19:16.02 | milli | Anybody update to fontconfig 2.3.1 (just move to unstable) and get ugly fonts back? |
| 19:16.08 | tarzeau | sao: no. but i like nethack, jumpnbump, wipeout1,2,3, www.mtp-target.org and maze of galious |
| 19:16.15 | valdyn | flaxo: might make sense to upgrade your system completely, i cant tell from here. however apt-get update && apt-get install module-assistant |
| 19:16.16 | sao | but you like mame right ;-? |
| 19:16.29 | tarzeau | sao: neither |
| 19:16.53 | sao | wondering (is that your xf86config ? |
| 19:17.06 | flaxo | valdyn: i think i fucked up the part with discover it was deinstalled... |
| 19:17.24 | valdyn | flaxo: so apt-get install discover, no big deal |
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| 19:17.54 | valdyn | flaxo: m-a a-i alsa should install the alsa drivers, rest goes by what dpkg told you earlier |
| 19:18.17 | tgm | green_earz: that is fine, but i was wanting a computer for the debian install. i know how to get debian.. i want a computer that works well with it. most computers from well known compasnies have fairly lously support by linux. :(... if i can find some 3rd party computer i would likely have no problems, except that if the computer fries itself i would likely have no support. :( |
| 19:18.18 | milli | sao: I didn't touch XF86config-4.. still using xft2 renderer |
| 19:18.37 | calin | nooma |
| 19:18.48 | kal_ | Can someone tell me the neccessary hardware needed to run a small 56k ISP? the routers, etc... |
| 19:18.48 | flaxo | valdyn: should i deinstall the alsa-base before installing discover1 ? |
| 19:18.55 | valdyn | flaxo: oh and discover just makes things easier, its by no means required to use alsa |
| 19:18.56 | war- | I fixed my fonts |
| 19:19.01 | tarzeau | kal_: where do you live? |
| 19:19.04 | valdyn | !info discover sarge |
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| 19:19.07 | dpkg | discover: (hardware identification system), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.0.7-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 279 kB, Installed size: 712 kB |
| 19:19.14 | kal_ | tarzeau: does it matter? ;) |
| 19:19.22 | sao | tdfx right, can see that one, but what is that ? still need help, where is your xf86config WITH TVOut commands in it ? |
| 19:19.22 | flaxo | valdyn: K |
| 19:19.23 | tarzeau | kal_: yes |
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| 19:19.29 | kal_ | tarzeau: why does it matter? |
| 19:19.32 | DoppelGanger | tgm: thts funny |
| 19:19.47 | sao | plus what is this tdfx driver ? |
| 19:19.50 | valdyn | flaxo: what dpkg said is the newer one, i have no idea what point there is in still using discover1 |
| 19:19.52 | DoppelGanger | ever consider that might be a lack of user knowledge preventing your system from running well |
| 19:20.33 | tgm | DoppelGanger: i have had major problems with southbrides, north bridges, NICs, graphics cards, and everything else with the computers i have tried... |
| 19:20.43 | flaxo | valdyn: ok so would you recommend upgrading?? |
| 19:21.08 | DoppelGanger | tgm: tell me did you moprobe teh modules for you nics adn etc |
| 19:21.22 | flaxo | valdyn: and switching to 2.6 kernel?? |
| 19:21.22 | tgm | DoppelGanger: the problem is obscure components for which the last known working driver was for kertnel 2.0, or just plain don't exist yet |
| 19:21.27 | valdyn | flaxo: not if things work without that |
| 19:21.50 | DoppelGanger | tgm: how old were these systems |
| 19:22.01 | flaxo | valdyn: ok so i will try to go without it first... |
| 19:22.08 | valdyn | !tell flax about woody->sarge |
| 19:22.14 | valdyn | ( just for reference ) |
| 19:22.44 | tgm | granted these where mostly HPs... and HP inrtentially uses faulty products in *ALL* their low cost computers... like they still sell computers with s3 cards, depsite the fact that sonicblue does not support their old buggy cards. |
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| 19:23.02 | tgm | the computer in question are 1-2 yearsold. |
| 19:23.08 | flaxo | !tell flaxo about woody->sarge |
| 19:24.27 | tgm | these hp comuters didn't work so well with windows either though.... |
| 19:24.32 | tgm | LOL |
| 19:24.37 | DoppelGanger | tgm |
| 19:24.44 | DoppelGanger | i have some systems with s3 cards |
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| 19:25.15 | DoppelGanger | tgm: buy a bat |
| 19:25.23 | DoppelGanger | and hit the crap out of them |
| 19:25.23 | tgm | DoppelGanger: and do you have an hp integrated prosavage by any chance? |
| 19:25.26 | montre | after running the Nvidia One Liner - E: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernel-common |
| 19:25.26 | montre | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:25.43 | tgm | s4 cards such eh? |
| 19:25.45 | sao | tarzeau can you tell me what you included in xfree config to run your TVOut with Nvidia ? |
| 19:25.45 | valdyn | montre: in sid ( packages.debian.org ) |
| 19:25.48 | tgm | er s3 |
| 19:25.58 | montre | thanks :P |
| 19:26.16 | tarzeau | sao: i don't have nvidia |
| 19:26.16 | DoppelGanger | tgm: nah not for graphics but i prob would find a way to get it to work with X |
| 19:26.25 | tarzeau | sao: i used a tvout on a laptop, years ago |
| 19:26.25 | DoppelGanger | might take a couple of shots |
| 19:26.32 | DoppelGanger | but damn it, it would work |
| 19:26.44 | sao | shit i need help |
| 19:28.01 | sao | ok then lets go to another problem i got |
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| 19:28.12 | war- | sao: you can do it 2 different ways |
| 19:28.13 | sao | some programs dont use sond others do |
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| 19:28.23 | sao | war you mean tvout ? |
| 19:28.26 | war- | yep |
| 19:28.29 | sao | thx man |
| 19:28.32 | sao | how ? |
| 19:28.35 | war- | DUAL-XF86Config.Separate.X |
| 19:28.36 | war- | DUAL-XF86Config.Twin.Vie |
| 19:28.39 | war- | want the configs? |
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| 19:28.48 | sao | would be nice |
| 19:28.49 | war- | you can use twinview or make the tv a separate x server |
| 19:28.50 | war- | k |
| 19:28.52 | war- | sec |
| 19:28.53 | Gnurdux | can someone do me a BIG favor |
| 19:28.57 | sao | thx |
| 19:29.14 | Gnurdux | there is someone i persuaded to switch to debian, and he needs help installing |
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| 19:29.16 | sao | thx GOD |
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| 19:29.24 | Gnurdux | but he said Gnurdux: brb, don't go away |
| 19:29.24 | DoppelGanger | ah ah |
| 19:29.37 | Gnurdux | and that was like 30 mins ago and i need to go |
| 19:29.49 | Gnurdux | so can soemone from here join #linuxforum |
| 19:29.49 | war- | sao - what card you using? |
| 19:29.52 | Gnurdux | and hang out |
| 19:29.55 | sao | nvidia |
| 19:30.00 | tgm_ | let me pose this question: do most *non-HP* computers work *well* with *just* standard kernel and x11... miniumal configuring.. and without having to patch the kernel? |
| 19:30.02 | war- | sao: what model |
| 19:30.07 | sao | wait |
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| 19:30.15 | Gnurdux | and when milwatts comes back, someoe can tell him to join here |
| 19:30.17 | Gnurdux | please? |
| 19:30.18 | sao | i dunno where this file is now damn it |
| 19:30.25 | JaZy15 | hey guys |
| 19:30.31 | Gnurdux | noone else is non-idle on the room |
| 19:30.34 | sao | you know where xchat saves incoming files ? |
| 19:30.42 | war- | hm, ~/dcc? |
| 19:30.44 | war- | not sure |
| 19:30.45 | Gnurdux | anyone? |
| 19:30.52 | DoppelGanger | i can tell him to join here talking him through an install might be painful |
| 19:30.55 | Gnurdux | ~/.xchat i think |
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| 19:31.25 | sao | this is where it saves downloads |
| 19:31.27 | sao | file:/home/sven/.xchat2/downloads |
| 19:31.29 | sao | lol |
| 19:31.33 | sao | so war what now ? |
| 19:31.47 | war- | what model card you got? |
| 19:32.02 | sao | nvidia fx5600 go (notebook) |
| 19:33.02 | war- | well the config is a skeleton, you could try just using it , if it doesnt work, you need to modify it to work with your hardware - I use a 4800, remember the most important part is you must be using the nvidia drivers! and not the nv |
| 19:33.21 | tgm_ | is theis a list (anywhere) of equipment with poor to no linux support that is likely to be found in low end computers? |
| 19:34.10 | DoppelGanger | dunno but there is alist of supported hardware |
| 19:34.12 | DoppelGanger | see google |
| 19:34.23 | sao | i already connected my tv with an scart and svideo cable adapter so its all fine, plus my surround sound music-machine is connected with chinch cables |
| 19:34.36 | tgm_ | supported hardware lists are almost always out-of-date. :( |
| 19:34.44 | sao | so i take a look at you configs war |
| 19:34.51 | JaZy15 | is hoary pertty stable |
| 19:34.53 | war- | sao, you using the nvidia driver? |
| 19:35.14 | sao | yes |
| 19:35.20 | war- | ok |
| 19:35.21 | war- | give that a go |
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| 19:35.30 | nessuno | hi |
| 19:35.31 | war- | use the twinview |
| 19:35.35 | war- | sao: use the twinview 1st |
| 19:35.41 | sao | but wait here is written 1024x786 for TVout |
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| 19:35.51 | war- | sao: whatever your tv can do |
| 19:35.52 | Champagne | JaZy15: ask it to ubuntu users |
| 19:35.53 | sao | i thought so too |
| 19:35.54 | PerfDave | JaZy15: Ask #ubuntu, Hoary isn't Debian. |
| 19:35.55 | war- | sao: set to 800x600 for tv |
| 19:35.58 | war- | sao: if crappy tv |
| 19:36.06 | JaZy15 | opps sorry guys |
| 19:36.16 | DoppelGanger | PerfDave: ubuntu isn't debian |
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| 19:36.22 | DoppelGanger | its a joke he eh |
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| 19:36.53 | sao | shouldnt i change some things ? |
| 19:37.06 | war- | the pci addressya |
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| 19:38.12 | jim | what's hardware abstraction layer? system message bus? |
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| 19:38.34 | Champagne | PerfDave: do you know what mean when konsole exited with x status? |
| 19:38.38 | sao | i try to make a combine of yours an mine (yours as the template) |
| 19:38.46 | sao | w8 |
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| 19:38.52 | PerfDave | Champagne: Nope |
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| 19:39.29 | jim | Champagne: man page for konsole might say what the different x values mean |
| 19:39.35 | jedi_ | I'm trying to solve a remote connection problem to my own mysql server. If when using MySQl to connect, and I'm propmpted for a password, does this guarantee that my MySQL client (mysql) is reaching the server? |
| 19:40.21 | jim | try connecting to a host you know doesn't exist |
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| 19:40.30 | jim | does it give you password prompt? |
| 19:40.39 | shadow98 | updatedb: new database would be empty |
| 19:40.40 | jedi_ | Hmm, good point. |
| 19:40.44 | jim | if yes, no guarantee |
| 19:40.44 | Champagne | jim: thank you I was forgetting those useful man pages |
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| 19:40.58 | nessuno | is it possible to use nvidia official installer on a kernel compiled from myself ? |
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| 19:41.14 | jedi_ | Heh, ya, it does prompt me for a pass even when connecting to a non-existant hostname. |
| 19:41.21 | chealer | !tell nessuno about nvidia-howto |
| 19:41.23 | shadow98 | im getting this error when running updatedb: /usr/bin/updatedb: line 142: /var/cache/locate/locatedb.n: Read-only file system |
| 19:41.23 | shadow98 | updatedb: new database would be empty |
| 19:41.25 | jim | what does that tell you? |
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| 19:41.35 | chealer | nessuno: why would you want to do that? |
| 19:41.36 | brunocesar | hello, |
| 19:41.43 | flaxo | valdyn: me again... how do i manually configure alsa to find my sound card...?? |
| 19:41.44 | jim | yello, |
| 19:41.50 | jedi_ | jim : Obviously that the password prompt is a client side thing. Hence I'm back to square one. |
| 19:41.58 | chealer | nessuno: is it for the latest drivers? |
| 19:42.19 | nessuno | chealer, because i tried to compile nvidia module from source but won't work :( |
| 19:42.30 | chealer | nessuno: what's your problem? |
| 19:42.32 | jim | jedi_, why square 1? |
| 19:42.36 | shadow98 | the power went off here when i was compiling a program and now im getting this error |
| 19:42.42 | shadow98 | can anyone help me fix it |
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| 19:42.50 | jedi_ | jim : Cause I still don't know why I can't connect. |
| 19:42.53 | streuner | flaxo: just load the modules |
| 19:43.05 | jim | ok... |
| 19:43.14 | jim | does mysql server log? |
| 19:43.25 | flaxo | streuner: ?? aha! :| |
| 19:43.39 | jedi_ | jim : When mysql connects to a non-existant host, it says the host can't be found. Although when I try to connect to my server, it doesn't give that error. It says error 2003 <hy000> which I'm searching for on google. |
| 19:43.56 | chealer | jedi_: there's a #mysql |
| 19:43.57 | streuner | flaxo: well, what's wrong with alsaconfig? |
| 19:43.59 | jedi_ | jim : I look for logs in /var/log. Its either not logging, or the logs are updating slowly. |
| 19:44.11 | jedi_ | chealer : I think this is a Debian thing. Locally MySQL is working fine. |
| 19:44.12 | enry | i got a problema, the lilo wont show at the start and auto it boots on linux i want to be able to boot on windows to, what can i do? |
| 19:44.13 | jim | I have zero idea for mysql specifically... but... a log might help you to see what's happening |
| 19:44.32 | streuner | enry: man lilo.conf |
| 19:44.37 | chealer | enry: did you install woody? |
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| 19:44.42 | jedi_ | jim : I'll see if I can figure out how to start it with greatr debugging level. |
| 19:45.00 | jim | ok, is there a way to start mysql server in such a way that either it stays in foreground and logs to that console, or produces log in a file you know where it's logging to? |
| 19:45.10 | PerfDave | enry: When you're booted into Linux, edit your lilo config and re-run lilo |
| 19:45.29 | shadow98 | can someone help me fix my files system being read only!! |
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| 19:45.40 | chealer | jim: vi /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 19:46.08 | kuru- | Whoever this wagner guy is (http://theorie.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~arwagner/) he is a hero to me ;) |
| 19:46.09 | jim | jedi_, <chealer> jim: vi /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
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| 19:46.30 | jedi_ | jim : I'll see if I can find out. In the past it has logged to /var/log/mysql, and I never changed that. Since no logs are being created, I might assume that the connection is never reaching the MySQL server. |
| 19:46.32 | kuru- | this guy saved me sooooooooo much time with his thinkpad t41p installation guide |
| 19:46.43 | nessuno | chealer, with the driver compiled from myself (debian way) : Error API mismatch: the nvidia module is ver. 7.1.0, but ths X module is 1.0.7167 |
| 19:46.48 | jedi_ | chealer : Yes, not much in that config file, been through it already. |
| 19:46.55 | jim | jedi_: the log file is just empty? |
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| 19:47.00 | sao_HH | war i change to the new config of xfree now |
| 19:47.01 | jim | oh,. so no |
| 19:47.01 | flaxo | streuner: it says it can't find any hardware... |
| 19:47.07 | sao_HH | i return after that try |
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| 19:47.23 | jim | what's hardware abstraction layer? system message bus? |
| 19:47.28 | Stza | this is kind of a newb question, but can you normally not run binary programs on different architectures from x86? |
| 19:47.30 | war- | sao: ok |
| 19:47.33 | jedi_ | jim : Log file is not empty, but the logs are old. They predate today's date. |
| 19:47.36 | war- | sao: tell me if it works, you test now? |
| 19:47.38 | flaxo | streuner: but i know its there and i know what it is... |
| 19:47.45 | sao_HH | thx at all i return soon i hope |
| 19:47.48 | streuner | flaxo: are you sure it is supported at all? |
| 19:47.53 | DoppelGanger | nessuno: try removing the previous nvida module driver from /lib/modules/kernelname |
| 19:47.57 | jim | jedi_: see if it logs when you stop and restart mysql server |
| 19:47.58 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | talkme |
| 19:48.04 | jedi_ | jim : Ok. |
| 19:48.07 | PerfDave | Stza: binary programs are compiled for specific architectures, there's very little compatiability between architectures. You can often run them under hardcore, system-level emulation though. Something like bochs. |
| 19:48.12 | DoppelGanger | then reinstalling the drivers you want |
| 19:48.13 | nessuno | DoppelGanger, ok, tnx |
| 19:48.17 | brunocesar | guys, i'm installing a debian server in a school, we have 130 pc, (workstations win98), we have 130 users(students), here is my question: every user has to have a directory (like a home directory) but i cannot create an accout in the server for all users it will be very hard to admin this, somebody know what shoud i do? |
| 19:48.22 | DaCa | Stza: you might want to look into qemu |
| 19:48.31 | flaxo | streuner: wait ill double check... |
| 19:48.42 | PerfDave | DaCa: Does qemu work across architectures then? I've only used it for running i386 on i386 |
| 19:48.50 | Stza | PerfDave: Well I have a PA-RISC machine, and I wanted to run a teamspeak server on it, and yeah I'm trying to run it and it says "cannot execute binary file" |
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| 19:48.56 | jim | brunocesar: why not? |
| 19:49.05 | PerfDave | brrrt: What is this server serving? |
| 19:49.07 | Stza | PerfDave: I don't have much experience in different arch's though so this error is new to me |
| 19:49.09 | PerfDave | ARgh |
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| 19:49.20 | jim | brunocesar: too much typin? |
| 19:49.29 | DaCa | PerfDave: sure |
| 19:49.34 | PerfDave | brunocesar: What is this server serving? You probably want to look into LDAP and Samba, and write a few quick scripts to help you out. |
| 19:49.36 | imachine | jim: not likin the ing ? |
| 19:49.41 | imachine | jim: too much typing? |
| 19:49.42 | imachine | ;) |
| 19:50.01 | jim | I don't lick ings! |
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| 19:50.22 | imachine | heh ;] |
| 19:50.29 | imachine | well perhaphs you know how to enable dri on debian? |
| 19:50.33 | imachine | i run sarge. |
| 19:50.43 | imachine | apt-get upgraded as of today. |
| 19:50.46 | jim | I haven't actually done that lately |
| 19:50.54 | jim | it depends on your video card |
| 19:50.54 | enry | Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. |
| 19:50.54 | enry | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.56 | enry | i got that |
| 19:50.57 | PerfDave | !tell imachine -about enter |
| 19:51.18 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | aja |
| 19:51.22 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | chupa berga |
| 19:51.25 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | aja |
| 19:51.29 | jim | you might have to build a module |
| 19:51.34 | chealer | ArGeNtO_100x100: what's your point? |
| 19:51.34 | cbr | i switched to udev but the /dev tree is still populated with pointless nodes? can i delete /dev ? |
| 19:51.38 | streuner | ArGeNtO_100x100: Are you a bot? |
| 19:51.50 | shadow98 | im getting this error when running updatedb: /usr/bin/updatedb: line 142: /var/cache/locate/locatedb.n: Read-only file system |
| 19:51.52 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | sorry |
| 19:52.03 | imachine | jim: well. |
| 19:52.13 | streuner | shadow98: so mount the FS? |
| 19:52.14 | imachine | jim: i have a savage 3d. |
| 19:52.21 | streuner | shadow98: to rw? |
| 19:52.24 | PerfDave | shadow98: Is /var on a read-only filesystem, by any chance? |
| 19:52.36 | shadow98 | not that i know of |
| 19:52.41 | imachine | PerfDave: could you please dont use dumb machinery irc bots to smoke my priv message window? |
| 19:52.46 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | jajajajajajajajajajqajajjajajajajajajajajajajajajajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjja |
| 19:52.49 | shadow98 | do i just mount /dev/hda |
| 19:52.49 | imachine | i would kindly appreciate. |
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| 19:52.56 | PerfDave | imachine: And in English? |
| 19:52.58 | streuner | hm |
| 19:53.02 | shadow98 | i was compiling a program and power went out |
| 19:53.10 | brunocesar | jim: long story, in the school new students will arrive every month, ... and i'm a volunteer in this project, without any payment and fell time... can u understand? |
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| 19:53.14 | imachine | PerfDave: 21:50 < PerfDave> !tell imachine -about enter |
| 19:53.22 | PerfDave | shadow98: Type "mount" and look to see if things are read-only (ro) |
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| 19:53.30 | imachine | PerfDave: or atl east make your bot do a notice |
| 19:53.37 | imachine | PerfDave: its very annoying ;) |
| 19:53.38 | PerfDave | shadow98: If you had a filesystem error, it's probable that you've been remounted as read-only |
| 19:53.51 | jim | see, there's dri/drm modules in the kernel... maybe you have to use one the card mfgr supplies,,, often this module is supplied as a binary, so it's limited to one or maybe a few kernels |
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| 19:54.00 | shadow98 | here is only one with problems /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 19:54.03 | DA_ | cbr: as far as i know udev should replace the files in /dev with its own devices according to the config files in /etc/udev(?) i would check out your man pages and go from there |
| 19:54.05 | imachine | jim: isee. |
| 19:54.07 | jim | there's another module, the driver that X loads |
| 19:54.08 | PerfDave | imachine: *shrug* dpkg isn't my bot. Please don't "smoke" my channel window by using multiple lines where one would suffice |
| 19:54.17 | DaCa | imachine: pressing enter after every third word in a public channel with 800 users is annoying too :) |
| 19:54.17 | jim | and same things apply to that |
| 19:54.27 | chealer | jim: DRI is binary? |
| 19:54.33 | shadow98 | how do i fix the errors? |
| 19:54.47 | imachine | jim: is there some tool to build a kernel .deb ? |
| 19:54.50 | jim | so you have to find out for your savage card what to do specifically |
| 19:54.51 | jim | yes |
| 19:54.55 | imachine | jim: like with the java package? what was that one called. |
| 19:54.56 | PerfDave | shadow98: Did you get any strange messages on boot? |
| 19:55.03 | jim | the package it's in is called kernel-package |
| 19:55.10 | shadow98 | PerfDave: I didn't look |
| 19:55.14 | shadow98 | using ssh |
| 19:55.14 | PerfDave | shadow98: Try checking in /var/log/messages or dmesg |
| 19:55.15 | jedi_ | jim : Ack, ok, I have work ahead of me. Stopped daemon, trying to start it failed. The errors are a bit greek to me, perhaps I need to spend time on google then mysql. |
| 19:55.16 | jim | java-package :) |
| 19:55.24 | jim | (surprising, huh? :) |
| 19:55.31 | brunocesar | jim? |
| 19:55.43 | imachine | jim: i actually meant the command itself i can man; on. |
| 19:55.47 | imachine | but thanks :] |
| 19:55.51 | shadow98 | PerfDave: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,1)) in ext3_delete_inode: Journal has aborted |
| 19:56.02 | PerfDave | shadow98: That looks, uhm, bad :) |
| 19:56.05 | jim | brunocesar: do you get machine readable files that say who is joining class and who is leaving? |
| 19:56.19 | nessuno | nvidia: version magic '2.6.8custom1' preempt PENTIUM4 gcc-3,3' should be '2.6.8custom1 preempt 686 gcc-3.3, , anyone know what mean ? |
| 19:56.22 | shadow98 | PerfDave: anyway to try and fix it.. |
| 19:56.48 | PerfDave | nessuno: What are you trying to do? |
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| 19:57.01 | imachine | jim: whats the command called? |
| 19:57.07 | imachine | jim: to run this package build. |
| 19:57.09 | PerfDave | shadow98: Try booting from a rescue floppy or CD and running fsck on the disk? |
| 19:57.13 | imachine | jim: i installed kernel-package |
| 19:57.17 | imachine | damn. |
| 19:57.20 | nessuno | i tried to load and use an nvidia module compiled from source |
| 19:57.31 | jim | imachine: the command is make-kpkg... one way to find out what files come from the package's tarball is "dpkg -L <packagename>" |
| 19:57.31 | PerfDave | nessuno: How did you compile it from source? |
| 19:57.37 | imachine | thanks. |
| 19:57.37 | shadow98 | ok |
| 19:57.47 | PerfDave | brunocesar: What are you actually trying to achieve? Once you have a fileserver set up, adding new accounts should be trivial. |
| 19:58.08 | jim | make-kpkg is vaguely like make... in that it has targets as parameters |
| 19:58.12 | PerfDave | shadow98: If you suspect hardware problems, try "badblocks" to diagnose the disk, but it's time consuming. |
| 19:58.17 | nessuno | i download kernel-source-2.6.8 then nvidia kernel source and compiled togheter |
| 19:58.24 | PerfDave | nessuno: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 19:58.25 | jim | you can find out the targets by running make-kpkg --targets |
| 19:58.34 | jim | it's kinda interesting what you can do with it |
| 19:58.46 | imachine | jim: cant find such command. |
| 19:58.52 | shadow98 | PerfDave: can i use the mini iso to do fsck..or do i need the rescue.iso |
| 19:59.01 | jim | make-kpkg not found? |
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| 19:59.12 | PerfDave | make-kpkg and distcc are fun together. It's a shame I don't actually need to compile my own kernels with Debian ;) |
| 19:59.33 | PerfDave | shadow98: I don't know which of the Debian ISOs will support it, I'd probably use Knoppix or System Rescue CD myself. |
| 19:59.34 | imachine | no im ok. |
| 19:59.35 | imachine | ;] |
| 19:59.40 | chealer | PerfDave: you don't care about performancer even with your nick? :) |
| 19:59.53 | shadow98 | i have knoppix 3.6 cd |
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| 20:00.04 | jim | nonono, the perf means he's perforated! |
| 20:00.11 | DaCa | imachine: debian-reference might come in the neighborhood (also at qref.sf.net) |
| 20:00.12 | chealer | ah! |
| 20:00.29 | PerfDave | chealer: I care enough about performance to run an arch-specific kernel, but there's really no advantage to hand-compiling that outweighs the time and hassle involved. |
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| 20:00.49 | sao | war ? |
| 20:00.57 | jim | "hand compiling" can mean many different things :) |
| 20:01.03 | chealer | PerfDave: hehe, that's what I've been told to. but you know, with mak-kpkg and distcc? ;) |
| 20:01.18 | imachine | PerfDave: i need cpufreq support for my laptop. |
| 20:01.19 | nessuno | PerfDave, tnx for the link, that the howto i've used ! |
| 20:01.25 | imachine | PerfDave: which is unfortunately unloadable as a module. |
| 20:01.26 | imachine | pity. |
| 20:01.36 | PerfDave | imachine: *plonk* |
| 20:01.41 | sao | iam now using this new xf86config but my tv is empt and nor plus or kde shows a second screen ;-( or monitor |
| 20:01.53 | imachine | PerfDave: ? |
| 20:01.54 | PerfDave | nessuno: At what stage in that process are you getting the error you're having? |
| 20:03.02 | hdkiller__ | Pope switched to a new runlevel :( |
| 20:03.19 | nessuno | PerfDave, new kernel work ok, also deb are installed ok, nvidia module it also loaded, just when i startx it won't run |
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| 20:03.49 | PerfDave | nessuno: You're sure the nvidia module is loaded? It shows up in "lsmod"? |
| 20:03.56 | nessuno | yes |
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| 20:04.01 | mrawenec | hi |
| 20:04.03 | nessuno | lsmod | grep nvidia |
| 20:04.08 | PerfDave | !hi |
| 20:04.08 | dpkg | hello, perfdave |
| 20:04.26 | PerfDave | nessuno: What's the error message again? |
| 20:04.27 | mrawenec | how can i limit upload on some port? |
| 20:04.33 | mrawenec | with command tc |
| 20:04.35 | mrawenec | please? |
| 20:04.42 | kuru- | compiling a kernel takes too long, even on a 1.7ghz pentium M.. |
| 20:04.42 | PerfDave | !tell mrawenec -about enter |
| 20:04.43 | valdyn | mrawenec: www.lartc.org |
| 20:04.45 | kuru- | geez |
| 20:04.58 | mrawenec | i have |
| 20:04.59 | mrawenec | mipsel |
| 20:05.00 | mrawenec | :( |
| 20:05.01 | kuru- | i wanna finish this so I can go to bed |
| 20:05.03 | mrawenec | openwrt |
| 20:05.19 | imachine | is preemption supported in debian? |
| 20:05.24 | imachine | is it wise choice on a desktop machine? |
| 20:05.34 | jim | kuru: so go ahead and finish... what's stopping you/ |
| 20:05.35 | jim | ? |
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| 20:05.56 | nessuno | PerfDave, nvidia: version magic 2.6.8custom1 preempt PENTIUM4 gcc-3.3 shold be 2.6.8custom1 preempt 686 gcc-3.3 |
| 20:05.59 | Coolio | ž |
| 20:06.15 | PerfDave | kuru-: This is why you need distcc and a quad 2GHz Opteron box ;) |
| 20:06.36 | nessuno | i chosed P4 during make menuconfig |
| 20:06.41 | Coolio | fuck |
| 20:06.47 | Coolio | niggaz |
| 20:06.59 | PerfDave | nessuno: Hang on, did you run module-assistant from the kernel you're now running? |
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| 20:07.14 | nessuno | i think so.. |
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| 20:07.28 | PerfDave | nessuno: Are you now running your hand-compiled kernel? I should point out that there's no need to hand-compile a kernel to use nvidia drivers. |
| 20:07.31 | jim | imachine: preemptable is used (among others) by pro audio apps |
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| 20:07.53 | PerfDave | nessuno: Try repeating the module-assistant stage, generating a new nvidia module. See if that works. |
| 20:07.55 | asdf1212 | hello debian lovers |
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| 20:08.06 | nessuno | PerfDave, ok |
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| 20:10.25 | bowman | hi, I'm having some trouble with pcmcia hotplug on debian testing, kernel 2.4.27, the wifi card is setup correctly the first time I insert it, on the next inserts (without reboot) the network interface doesn't come up, neither is the module unloaded when I unplug the card. any idea? |
| 20:11.08 | SEcki | have you first unload the network before puling out the card? |
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| 20:11.51 | PerfDave | bowman: At a guess, you may need software utilities such as the laptop-net package installed. |
| 20:12.10 | bowman | do I HAVE to install pcmcia-cs? |
| 20:12.14 | PerfDave | Or pcmcia-cs |
| 20:12.18 | bowman | ok :) |
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| 20:12.32 | PerfDave | bowman: Is there any reason you don't want to install pcmcia-cs? It looks like it will do what you want. |
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| 20:12.43 | Boyette | Can someone help me, I have an old computer with windows installed right now but it won't boot right, it comes up Primary master, then lists my cd drives and floppy but doesn't do anything after that, but i can't get it to boot from the CD either, can anyone help me? |
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| 20:12.54 | bowman | PerfDave: I am installing it now, didn't properly read about it. :) |
| 20:13.27 | PerfDave | Boyette: Many old machines don't support booting from CD. You may be able to enable it in the BIOS. |
| 20:13.28 | Boyette | oh, it says press F1 to continue or DEL to enter SETUP but neither of those do anything |
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| 20:14.00 | PerfDave | Boyette: Hmm, could be that your keyboard (or keyboard controller) is knackered, if you can't enter the BIOS. Try unplugging all the drives, booting and pressing DEL. |
| 20:14.02 | Boyette | PrefDave: I don't think its that old |
| 20:14.04 | jim | f1 to continue? keyboard error? |
| 20:14.21 | Boyette | PrefDave: I tried, should i unplug the HD too? |
| 20:14.25 | PerfDave | Boyette: Bear in mind that it's the DEL key in the block above the arrow keys, not backspace or the one on the numeric keypad. |
| 20:14.37 | PerfDave | Boyette: Might be worth a go. |
| 20:14.46 | Boyette | alright, give me a minute, thanks |
| 20:15.06 | xelam | disconnect EVERYTHING except the video card, ram and cpu. |
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| 20:15.15 | xelam | also leave keyboard connected. |
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| 20:15.38 | streuner | the pope is dead |
| 20:15.49 | Trewas | long live the pope |
| 20:15.50 | imachine | streuner: huh? |
| 20:15.55 | cbr | old news |
| 20:15.59 | cbr | like 10 minutes ago |
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| 20:16.23 | PerfDave | He couldn't be bothered waiting for Sarge to release. |
| 20:16.27 | DoppelGanger | he he |
| 20:16.33 | DoppelGanger | the nerve of him |
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| 20:16.52 | Trewas | he would have lived forever if he decided to wait for that ;) |
| 20:17.15 | flaxo | streuner: oh, yeah it's the hardware again... ill figure it out and get back... thanx for all your kind help!! |
| 20:17.22 | PerfDave | Debian prolongs life! |
| 20:17.29 | xelam | PerfDave: rofl. |
| 20:17.41 | Boyette | weird, unpluging the HD seemed to do it, keyboard is working and everythihng |
| 20:17.47 | streuner | flaxo: find out what hardware you have via 'lspci -v' |
| 20:18.07 | PerfDave | Boyette: Sometimes incorrect jumper or cable settings on an HDD will cause that. |
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| 20:18.49 | jim | Boyette: could it be that the jumpers on your drives are set improperly? aside from that, you should put the cd and the hd on two separate controllers/cables |
| 20:18.54 | pientra | When I try to set the password for mysqladmin it says: "error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'" - i'm not 100% sure of which packages i need but maybe somebody could point that out too |
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| 20:19.45 | nessuno | pope is died ? |
| 20:19.52 | xelam | no, he's dead. |
| 20:20.06 | xelam | pientra: is there already a password set? |
| 20:20.06 | jim | reason, two drives on one cable, the controller will negotiate both drives, and use the slowest speed for both drives |
| 20:20.10 | nessuno | :\ |
| 20:20.12 | drac | and 100% off-topic |
| 20:20.15 | Boyette | It was working fine, first time i've started it in about a year, it worked great first time i started it then just died |
| 20:20.19 | Boyette | pope died? |
| 20:20.31 | nessuno | yes.. |
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| 20:20.45 | Boyette | makes you wonder, that many people preying... |
| 20:20.51 | drac | Boyette: off-topic. |
| 20:20.54 | SysAdm | nessuno, when? |
| 20:21.00 | pientra | xelam: there was.. i have tried that too but is still doesn't work, the only thing that changes is: -"using password: NO)" +"using password: YES)" |
| 20:21.14 | drac | SysAdm: ask on #religion |
| 20:21.14 | paulswm | SysAdm: About 45 minutes ago |
| 20:21.17 | Pappa | pope dead yet? |
| 20:21.24 | jim | more echos :) |
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| 20:21.42 | PerfDave | !pope is <reply> The death of the Pope is off-topic. He didn't, so far as we know, run Debian. |
| 20:21.43 | dpkg | ...but pope is already something else... |
| 20:21.46 | PerfDave | !pope |
| 20:21.46 | dpkg | well, pope is a guy with no life |
| 20:21.50 | flaxo | streuner: it's on that list! ES1371 ensoniq |
| 20:21.51 | PerfDave | !no, pope is <reply> The death of the Pope is off-topic. He didn't, so far as we know, run Debian. |
| 20:21.54 | xelam | lol |
| 20:22.02 | PerfDave | Stupid bot ;) |
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| 20:22.09 | streuner | flaxo: use usenet (groups.google.com) |
| 20:22.17 | ALinux | Anyone know any program that recognize the sound and execute commands ? |
| 20:22.20 | flaxo | streuner: ??? |
| 20:22.21 | Boyette | pope is <reply>The death of the Pope is off-topic. He didn't, so far as we know, run Debian. |
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| 20:22.33 | Boyette | !no, pope is <reply>The death of the Pope is off-topic. He didn't, so far as we know, run Debian. |
| 20:22.35 | montre | THE POPE IS DEAD |
| 20:22.36 | PerfDave | ALinux: What do you mean? |
| 20:22.37 | nessuno | sorry for the OT |
| 20:22.37 | imachine | PerfDave: smart bot actually. |
| 20:22.44 | streuner | flaxo: it will show you what module you need and its supported in ALSA or not |
| 20:22.47 | Boyette | !pope |
| 20:22.47 | dpkg | The death of the Pope is off-topic. He didn't, so far as we know, run Debian. |
| 20:22.50 | montre | CNN CONFIRMED IT AT 2:37, THE PPLE DIED |
| 20:22.53 | montre | POPE* |
| 20:22.57 | Rawplayer | old news |
| 20:22.58 | Rawplayer | :P |
| 20:22.59 | jim | stop please |
| 20:23.08 | montre | but people are still asking |
| 20:23.08 | Ronin | montre: yes we know stop yelling it |
| 20:23.12 | Pappa | well whatever |
| 20:23.13 | montre | omgwtf |
| 20:23.13 | jim | so what |
| 20:23.14 | DoppelGanger | just confirmed bambi just died |
| 20:23.17 | Boyette | whos the pope? |
| 20:23.17 | xelam | montre: yes we don't care. |
| 20:23.18 | bowman | ok, I have installed pcmcia-cs now, situation: card is plugged in - module is loaded - ra0 is configured. card is pulled out - module stays loaded - ra0 goes down. card is plugged back in - nothing happens :-) |
| 20:23.21 | jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.24 | ALinux | PerfDave: something when I say "logout" it will log me out |
| 20:23.25 | flaxo | streuner: it is on the alsa.org database as supported |
| 20:23.26 | montre | G4U |
| 20:23.27 | PerfDave | :ops Can somebody stick something about the Pope being dead in the topic to try and limit offtopic conversation about it? |
| 20:23.35 | dvs | DoppelGanger: Say it aint so!!! ;-) |
| 20:23.38 | PerfDave | ALinux: What are you trying to do? |
| 20:23.42 | DoppelGanger | dvs: yes |
| 20:23.43 | Ronin | ya cause we never go off topic here PerfDave :) |
| 20:23.46 | Boyette | prefDave: !pope |
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| 20:23.56 | DoppelGanger | :_( |
| 20:24.04 | jim | when he met godzilla you mean? |
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| 20:24.31 | dvs | jim: ;-) |
| 20:24.31 | ALinux | PerfDave: I want to send some voice command to my PC , like MS Voice commander |
| 20:24.43 | paulswm | Spme folks are bigoted about off topics, some are OK, and some apparently are not |
| 20:24.45 | streuner | flaxo: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=ES1371+ensoniq+debian+alsa&btnG=Suche&meta= |
| 20:24.51 | xelam | ALinux: do you want majel barret to respond? :) |
| 20:25.10 | PerfDave | ALinux: Hmm, I think there's some IBM software to do that, but I'm not aware of any Free or Debian-packaged stuff. |
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| 20:25.49 | vitriol | i'm getting an error message running dpkg-buildpackage that i don't understand... 'dpkg-source: error: source package has two conflicting values - eet and libeet |
| 20:26.01 | jim | leet... |
| 20:26.04 | vitriol | anybody have any idea what that could mean? |
| 20:26.14 | streuner | flaxo: http://panuganty.tripod.com/debiantips/sound.htm |
| 20:26.17 | pientra | xelam: know why it gives me this? |
| 20:26.35 | streuner | flaxo: Learn how to use google and usenet (groups.google.com) |
| 20:27.09 | jim | http://www.google.com/search?q=dpkg-source%3A+error%3A+source+package+has+two+conflicting+values&sourceid=mozilla&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 |
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| 20:28.03 | vitriol | jim: thanks! i didn't look using those search terms |
| 20:28.12 | vitriol | i wasn't getting any hits for that on google |
| 20:28.14 | vitriol | thanks alot! |
| 20:28.33 | jim | vitriol: welcome. google is kinda handy that way |
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| 20:29.27 | jim | vitriol, did you notice how I cut off the specific part of the message/ |
| 20:29.52 | vitriol | jim: yes i saw that....i should have thought of that |
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| 20:30.30 | jim | I didn't think of it originally myself, so don't beat yourself up too badly |
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| 20:31.53 | kaktus | nabend |
| 20:32.53 | leo | things that are optimized for KDE generally work ok in other platforms such as gnome ? |
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| 20:33.21 | valdyn | leo: yes |
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| 20:33.54 | PerfDave | leo: "optimised for kde"? If things require Qt, then they'll be slower to load if you don't have Qt loaded already, and using Qt and GTK side-by-side is slower than just using one because they take up more resources. You won't notice on any reasonable-spec hardware though. |
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| 20:34.19 | adaran | is anyone else having problems with "messed up" lines of text in firefox? |
| 20:34.22 | kaktus | a german debian channel ? |
| 20:34.25 | PerfDave | !de |
| 20:34.25 | dpkg | somebody said de was deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 20:34.32 | pipeline | leo: Things will work, they'll just be slow. Also, Gnome and KDE don't read each other's DPI settings, so your fonts will probably come out in the wrong size |
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| 20:39.05 | bowman | hm, obviously neither hotplug nor pcmcia-cs correctly disconfigure ra0 and/or remove the rt2400 module if I unplug the card |
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| 20:39.20 | mrhemlock | does ntop monitor per process connection bandwidth usage ? |
| 20:39.27 | daffy-pkf | lo |
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| 20:41.55 | dvs | eth0 |
| 20:42.06 | daffy-pkf | i'm trying to burn a dvd with graveman, the burner is a liteon ldw-851s, when i try to launch the burning procedure, it just open a window saying an error as happened, but nothing in the console or anywhere else. I'm running sid with a 2.6.10 kernel-image, can someone help me? |
| 20:42.42 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: try as root |
| 20:42.44 | daffy-pkf | ho, and the burner is on usb |
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| 20:42.52 | daffy-pkf | valdyn> i am root |
| 20:43.05 | garlic | hi all |
| 20:43.17 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: sudo or "real" root? |
| 20:43.24 | daffy-pkf | real |
| 20:43.55 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: i dont know then, maybe try gnomebaker or plain cli |
| 20:44.25 | daffy-pkf | what is it? |
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| 20:44.38 | daffy-pkf | i don't like things that start with gnome... |
| 20:44.45 | cbr | i set some stupid option at debconf to show GTK windows, how can i turn that off? |
| 20:44.47 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: cli? growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=file.iso |
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| 20:45.13 | daffy-pkf | valdyn> what is that? |
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| 20:45.27 | useruser | !online |
| 20:45.27 | dpkg | i heard online is The term refers to anything that's on the Internet, as in "I've got this great online magazine for you to check out at www.ugeek.com." |
| 20:45.29 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: burns a dvd to the dvd drive on hdc |
| 20:45.50 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: try it ( naturally with your device instead ) |
| 20:46.02 | tra1a1a | is there a way to download (only) a package that is already installed? apt-get -d says I already have the latest version |
| 20:46.23 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: oh, is it video dvd? |
| 20:46.32 | daffy-pkf | ok, and how do i create an iso? and tell growisofs to just "test" the burning |
| 20:46.46 | daffy-pkf | valdyn> no, only data, actually several video files |
| 20:46.47 | Varg__ | all in a sudden, ld can't find qt anymore when trying to make xconfig - libtqt3c102-mt(-dev) is installed ... any ideas? |
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| 20:47.36 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: so the error might not be burning but creating the iso |
| 20:48.09 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: look into graveman settings - external programs - all "lights" should be green |
| 20:48.22 | jim | Varg__, "all of a sudden" is usually an (un)likely story :) think about the list of things you did from the time it last worked until now |
| 20:48.33 | bowman | hm, obviously neither hotplug nor pcmcia-cs correctly disconfigure ra0 and/or remove the rt2400 module if I unplug the card. if I manually remove the rt2400 module after unplugging the card, it gets set up fine when I plug it back in. I don't have any idea what to do next :-) |
| 20:49.22 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: also, graveman is very new and probably very broken, so it may just not work that well, no idea |
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| 20:50.25 | Zeenix | hello |
| 20:50.29 | valdyn | bowman: apt-cache show ifplugd |
| 20:50.32 | daffy-pkf | valdyn> only cdrdao is missing, i don't think it's important is it? do you know another program to burn dvd? i use gcombust usually, but as far as i know it doesn't works for dvd |
| 20:51.16 | kaiowa | how could i convert a .ogg file to a .mp3???? |
| 20:51.22 | Zeenix | can someone tell me how can i use update-rc.d to tell my system not to start a particular service in a particular runlevel |
| 20:51.28 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: i normally use the cli, gnomebaker looks nice, k3b is a kde app ( though should run for you np ) and is quite mature |
| 20:51.44 | useruser | kaiowa: ogg123 -d wav "$i" -f - | lame - "$j" |
| 20:51.47 | daffy-pkf | what is cli? |
| 20:51.54 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: command line interface |
| 20:52.00 | daffy-pkf | ho ok |
| 20:52.02 | kaiowa | thx |
| 20:52.21 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: to debug this however you *should* try if things work the the cli, or use a different tool |
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| 20:53.16 | daffy-pkf | valdyn> ok i'll read the man pages of what i need for cli, thanks for the help |
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| 20:53.28 | chealer | !tell kaiowa about ogg->mp3 |
| 20:53.35 | unixfool_ | whats a good find alias/function to have 'find' ignore/prune all .svn and CVS directories? |
| 20:53.38 | valdyn | daffy-pkf: man mkisofs and man growisofs |
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| 20:53.52 | daffy-pkf | valdyn> ok thanks |
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| 20:58.06 | Boyette | I've used debian a while but on my other computer it installed the network card for me, I have no clue how to find out what kind it is or what module to use, or even how to install the module |
| 20:58.16 | bowman | cool. now I have hotplug, pcmcia-cs AND ifplugd installed and it still doesn't work correctly. |
| 20:58.33 | dvs | Boyette: lspci | grep Eth |
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| 20:58.55 | jim | Boyette: is it the same net card? |
| 20:59.04 | Boyette | nothing |
| 20:59.12 | Boyette | no, different probably cheap network card |
| 20:59.20 | dvs | Boyette: It's not a PCI card. |
| 20:59.27 | Boyette | I know it works though |
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| 20:59.42 | jim | Boyette: ifconfig eth0 shows a paragraph about eth0? or error message? |
| 21:00.10 | Boyette | device not found |
| 21:00.18 | jim | ok, |
| 21:00.24 | jim | so module not loaded for it. |
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| 21:00.38 | jim | you said this card worked in a debian before? |
| 21:00.55 | Boyette | first time installed debian on this computer |
| 21:01.06 | Boyette | installing |
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| 21:01.11 | Boyette | but it had windows before |
| 21:01.17 | jim | ok, look thru lspci listing |
| 21:01.22 | jim | see what you can find |
| 21:01.24 | resiak | jim: He already has done. It's not PCI. |
| 21:01.29 | dvs | Boyette: What version of Debian did you install? |
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| 21:01.35 | jim | not pci? |
| 21:01.40 | dvs | nope |
| 21:01.41 | resiak | 21:59 < dvs> Boyette: It's not a PCI card. |
| 21:01.42 | jim | I know he grepped |
| 21:01.58 | Boyette | PCI Bridge? |
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| 21:02.01 | resiak | Boyette: One easy way would be to take the card out, look for things that look like chipsets, then google them. ;-) |
| 21:02.04 | Boyette | sarge 2.6 |
| 21:02.07 | bltzfsck | i can use realplayer to listen to internet radio, i can listen to cds, but when i try to use an audio link on nyt.com, i get nothing |
| 21:02.13 | paulswm | !prize resiak |
| 21:02.24 | Boyette | sigh, fine, thanks |
| 21:02.24 | paulswm | resiak: I've done *that* defore :) |
| 21:02.31 | bltzfsck | do i need esd? i have to kill it to use the other things |
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| 21:02.46 | resiak | paulswm: Hell yes. :) |
| 21:02.50 | resiak | bltzfsck: What format is the music. |
| 21:03.01 | resiak | Boyette: You mean Sarge, with a 2.6 kernel. Why is that relevant? :) |
| 21:03.06 | streuner | bltzfsck: what kind of stream is this? |
| 21:03.08 | streuner | real? |
| 21:03.18 | tarzeau | hi streuner |
| 21:03.23 | bltzfsck | how can i find out? it's just a link on the page |
| 21:03.30 | dvs | resiak: As long as it ain't woody for autodetection ;-) |
| 21:03.41 | bltzfsck | it's javascript |
| 21:03.42 | resiak | dvs: *fear* ;-) |
| 21:03.44 | Boyette | resiak: <dvs> Boyette: What version of Debian did you install? |
| 21:03.46 | streuner | bltzfsck: does the link end like blablah.rm? |
| 21:03.47 | resiak | bltzfsck: No, it's not. |
| 21:03.50 | jim | woody doesn't have much autodetection :) |
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| 21:04.06 | resiak | Boyette: I can't read, sorry. |
| 21:04.08 | bltzfsck | how can i find out? |
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| 21:04.17 | resiak | bltzfsck: What's the URL? |
| 21:04.31 | bltzfsck | is macromedia flash what i'm looking for? |
| 21:04.34 | bltzfsck | it's that |
| 21:04.40 | streuner | tarzeau: moin moin |
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| 21:04.59 | bltzfsck | it's front page of nytimes.com, the article on the pope |
| 21:05.36 | chealer | !pope |
| 21:05.36 | dpkg | The death of the Pope is off-topic. He didn't, so far as we know, run Debian. |
| 21:05.44 | bltzfsck | all it says is its a javascript popup |
| 21:05.45 | dvs | Boyette: Do you know the name of your network card? |
| 21:05.51 | cmug | The pope ran Archlinux, just so you know! |
| 21:05.58 | bltzfsck | heh |
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| 21:06.25 | cmug | The pope would of ran Gentoo but he didnt have the time to do all the compiling |
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| 21:06.31 | bltzfsck | resiak, did you see the link? it's called an "interactive feature" |
| 21:06.38 | jim | !pope is also probably hid while shitting in the woods so the bear wouldn't find him |
| 21:06.38 | dpkg | okay, jim |
| 21:06.43 | Boyette | what else did the pope have to do? occasionally walk on the balcony? |
| 21:06.45 | cmug | all the men around the pope ran debian 'course |
| 21:06.48 | bltzfsck | javascript:pop_me_up2('http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/international/for_POPE_FEATURE/','600_475','width=600, height=475,scrollbars=yes,toolbars=no,resizable=yes'); |
| 21:06.57 | bltzfsck | that's the link |
| 21:07.00 | deathwarrior | anybody knows how to configure a 2wire usb modem???? |
| 21:07.03 | cmug | bltzfsck, nice link |
| 21:07.08 | bltzfsck | heh |
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| 21:07.14 | bltzfsck | i get the video, but no audio |
| 21:07.24 | cmug | i wont even follow |
| 21:07.24 | bltzfsck | i killed esd so i could use realplayer |
| 21:07.26 | Boyette | ok, its a 3Com Etherlink XP PCI 3C900-Combo |
| 21:07.31 | bltzfsck | do i need to restart it? |
| 21:07.32 | Boyette | how do i install modules though? |
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| 21:07.46 | resiak | bltzfsck: For what it's worth, I have trouble with sound and Flash. Do you use ALSA or OSS? |
| 21:07.52 | dvs | Boyette: Then how come "lspci | grep Eth" didn't pick it up? |
| 21:07.53 | bltzfsck | alsa |
| 21:07.55 | paulswm | Can someone fix that Pope factiod, I don't think the purpose of #debian is to be offensive to people's lifestyles of beliefs |
| 21:08.01 | Boyette | dvs: couldn't tell ya |
| 21:08.05 | paulswm | s/of/or/ |
| 21:08.15 | bltzfsck | and it conflicts with esd, or so i found out |
| 21:08.47 | PerfDave | !pope |
| 21:08.47 | dpkg | The death of the Pope is off-topic. He didn't, so far as we know, run Debian. |
| 21:08.52 | bltzfsck | it has worked in the past, but not since i "fixed" the sound |
| 21:08.52 | PerfDave | paulswm: Better? |
| 21:08.54 | cmug | the pope used MacOSX! |
| 21:09.03 | valdyn | dpkg, forget pope |
| 21:09.03 | dpkg | i forgot pope, valdyn |
| 21:09.05 | bltzfsck | the pope ran everything, didnt' he? |
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| 21:09.28 | cmug | !dpkg the poperdoper ran macosx |
| 21:09.32 | edison | Help: witch parameter i have to use with mkisofs to put the last directory in the .iso of the path source ? |
| 21:09.40 | bltzfsck | i wish he'd had a chance to fight the dalai lama before he died |
| 21:09.49 | cmug | !pope the poperdoper ran macosx |
| 21:09.51 | paulswm | PerfDave: Yeah, thanks. Not a Catholic myself, but I've seen discussion about 'gay' in here and thought we should consider religion the say way and stay neutral |
| 21:09.56 | cmug | !pope |
| 21:09.59 | PerfDave | paulswm: *nods* |
| 21:10.00 | tomb0y | anyone know how to fix this when running /sbin/lilo Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. Name change: '/dev/lvma' -> '/dev/raid1/raid' |
| 21:10.00 | paulswm | s/say/same/ |
| 21:10.02 | dvs | Boyette: I think that's a 3c59x |
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| 21:10.12 | resiak | cmug: Don't bother. |
| 21:10.16 | cmug | =) |
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| 21:10.36 | jim | and how is a 3c59x not pci? :) |
| 21:10.36 | cmug | this is what I hate about debian, every1 is a stiff up |
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| 21:10.47 | PerfDave | I would suggest, cynically, that the Vatican run Windows given their encouragement of virus propogation through FUD concerning HIV and condoms, but that's just me. And offtopic, so I won't. |
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| 21:11.26 | chealer | !condom |
| 21:11.26 | dpkg | condom is, like, hilarious when microsoft/sun manufactured it! ask me about ms-condom or sun condom |
| 21:11.27 | jim | cmug: there's a lot of someones that make debian... probably more than any other dist |
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| 21:11.48 | cmug | jim, and none of them can take a joke... :-) |
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| 21:12.05 | cmug | jim, even after the fine distro they leave behind |
| 21:12.21 | streuner | cmug: we aren't care much, you are free to join an other channel |
| 21:12.26 | cmug | joke == relax == take it easy |
| 21:12.39 | cmug | streuner, sure. as are you |
| 21:13.01 | cmug | ok, ill idle another 5months. see if you people change anybit |
| 21:13.03 | resiak | cmug: You're clearly off-topic and insulting the channel as a whole while you do it. Please shut up.. |
| 21:13.10 | cmug | -> |
| 21:13.22 | cmug | i rest my case. |
| 21:13.47 | DaCa | cmug: #debian is not really a representation of the debian developer community |
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| 21:13.52 | edison | Help: witch parameter i have to use with mkisofs to put the last directory in the .iso of the path source ex:. real_path=/home/user/data -> iso_path=/data ? |
| 21:13.55 | dondelelcaro | cmug: there's no need to egg on the channel. Please stop probing for a reaction. |
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| 21:14.20 | jim | I would imagine that not everyone on channel cares... so just say "I" or "me" if he's insulting you |
| 21:14.56 | tomb0y | anyone know why would my system detect 0x81 0x82 0x83 0x84 0x85 all to have a volume id of 00000002 ? |
| 21:15.04 | cmug | dear men/women, do not take my drunken actions as an attact toward any part of the debian/linux/? community. I respect each and everyone of your effort. I just wanted to say good going to all.. |
| 21:15.27 | cmug | dont do that |
| 21:15.31 | resiak | bltzfsck: That's not java you're looking at, it's flash. |
| 21:15.49 | resiak | bltzfsck: Personally, I've had some success with starting Firefox with `aoss firefox` |
| 21:15.50 | Boyette | geeze, thats a pos computer... nothings working right |
| 21:15.59 | bltzfsck | what's aoss? |
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| 21:16.21 | resiak | !aoss |
| 21:16.23 | resiak | :( |
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| 21:17.05 | tra1a1a | what is this error "unable to open files list file for package `jfbterm': Permission denied"? |
| 21:17.07 | cmug | why does debian cost 50euros as a dvd. that is horrid |
| 21:17.20 | bltzfsck | atmospheric, oceanic, and space science, according to google |
| 21:17.22 | resiak | bltzfsck: apt-cache show alsa-oss |
| 21:17.24 | dvs | resiak: try "alsa-oss" |
| 21:17.32 | dondelelcaro | cmug: talk to the vendors. |
| 21:17.36 | resiak | dvs: Thanks. dpkg -S aoss _just_ finished :) |
| 21:17.38 | Boyette | cmug: is that from debian.org? |
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| 21:17.38 | bltzfsck | resiak, there's a lead i can use. thx |
| 21:17.48 | chealer | tra1a1a: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:18.00 | cmug | Boyette, still. is this the price around the globe? |
| 21:18.16 | tra1a1a | chealer: dpkg -i is giving me this |
| 21:18.38 | Boyette | cmug: im sure its not that much |
| 21:18.47 | bltzfsck | then, apt-get install, eh? |
| 21:18.49 | cmug | Boyette, http://www.dataclub.fi/product.php?&isbn=0000002097&custID=e36cdd843bfcc6fa325f28caf4ee7df7 |
| 21:18.51 | tra1a1a | cmug: the price depends on the vendor. there isn't a standard price afaik |
| 21:18.52 | resiak | bltzfsck: that would make sense :)( |
| 21:18.53 | bltzfsck | i'm on it, thanks |
| 21:19.07 | cmug | tra1a1a, and Boyette that is the price asked here in finland |
| 21:19.18 | cmug | for woody DVD |
| 21:19.19 | Boyette | your getting ripped off then |
| 21:19.21 | chealer | tra1a1a: are you root? |
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| 21:19.31 | Boyette | try ebay mabye |
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| 21:19.34 | cmug | Boyette, its a national dealer. recommended by debian.org |
| 21:19.40 | tra1a1a | chealer: indeed |
| 21:19.45 | cmug | i need another drink, hold |
| 21:20.02 | bltzfsck | god bless apt ( this from a former rpm user) |
| 21:20.09 | Boyette | listed more than recommended probably |
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| 21:20.32 | apostle4 | exit |
| 21:20.34 | apostle4 | quit |
| 21:20.41 | tra1a1a | cmug: are they sending some of the money to the project? if they are I would be willing the pay them 50EUR |
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| 21:20.59 | DaCa | cmug: its not recommended, its listed, I guess in finland you should have excellent connectivity, so why don't you go for a netinstall? |
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| 21:21.14 | bltzfsck | DAMN that was easy |
| 21:21.28 | cmug | tra1a1a, i think not, "We supply the official non-US version which includes cryptography and encryption tools." |
| 21:21.28 | streuner | finland has exellent connections... |
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| 21:21.32 | resiak | bltzfsck: I think you mean "for resiak". ;) |
| 21:21.43 | tra1a1a | chealer: do you know what this "list file" is? |
| 21:21.46 | bltzfsck | resiak drinks free for the rest of the night |
| 21:21.48 | simonrvn | resiak: ;p |
| 21:21.50 | cmug | DaCa, ok, bad choice of words. |
| 21:22.01 | cmug | DaCa, i usually do netinstalls. |
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| 21:22.25 | chealer | tra1a1a: sorry,I have no idea |
| 21:22.40 | chealer | tra1a1a: what's the full command? |
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| 21:23.11 | tra1a1a | dpkg -i some-package-name |
| 21:23.24 | simonrvn | ouch |
| 21:23.25 | tra1a1a | it's nothing special and I see this for a first time |
| 21:23.26 | chealer | tra1a1a: could you ls -l some-package-name just to be sure? |
| 21:23.47 | simonrvn | it's someFile.deb |
| 21:23.56 | tra1a1a | I am sure - I just downloaded the package in question |
| 21:24.08 | jim | show file name |
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| 21:25.19 | zkline | Hi |
| 21:25.59 | xelam | rar |
| 21:26.14 | tra1a1a | by the way I have the same error when I try to install another package using apt-get |
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| 21:27.17 | zkline | I'm trying to install Sarge using a computer that doesn't seem to have a supported network card. |
| 21:27.34 | dondelelcaro | tra1a1a: can you paste the full output into #flood or using the pater bot? |
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| 21:27.40 | streuner | buy another NIC, zkline. |
| 21:27.56 | streuner | zkline: NIC's are cheap |
| 21:28.17 | tra1a1a | dondelelcaro: joining flood |
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| 21:28.51 | zkline | Can't do that, as I've got a home network that is routed through a router attached to my machine. |
| 21:28.55 | bltzfsck | i'm using xchat instead of epic for a change, and every thing is color-coded. is that xchat or is it irc? |
| 21:28.59 | zkline | It's one of those USB routers and network adaptors. |
| 21:29.13 | bltzfsck | specifically, what does red stuff mean? |
| 21:29.33 | chealer | bltzfsck: xchat (#xchat) |
| 21:29.53 | bltzfsck | is it query? or is it just stuff that starts with your own nick? |
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| 21:30.34 | resiak | bltzfsck: Probably your own nick. That would make sense, since then you can see people talking to you. |
| 21:30.42 | dondelelcaro | tra1a1a: what is the output of mount? what is the output of stat /var/lib/dpkg/info/jfbterm.list ? |
| 21:30.43 | bltzfsck | ok |
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| 21:30.53 | dondelelcaro | tra1a1a: you'll need to paste that into #flood |
| 21:31.09 | bltzfsck | didnt' want to query anybody uninvited, cuz i know some folks get cranky |
| 21:31.32 | PerfDave | pastebot > #flood |
| 21:31.32 | chealer | hehe, query dpkg |
| 21:31.48 | Cyanophytes | can someone see if they can telnet into my system 69.169.211.8 |
| 21:31.58 | bltzfsck | so do you type my nick every time, or do you have a script? |
| 21:32.00 | resiak | PerfDave: Finding the relevant line and just pasting that on-channel > Paster |
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| 21:32.11 | resiak | bltzfsck: We type the first few letters and hit tab. X-Chat does that too. |
| 21:32.13 | tomb0y | how do i wipe out any info that pvcreate has created before ? |
| 21:32.22 | bltzfsck | resiak, you da man |
| 21:33.20 | streuner | Cyanophytes: why aren't you just disable telnetd? |
| 21:33.44 | tra1a1a | dondelelcaro: it's there |
| 21:34.08 | streuner | tra1a1a: what distro do you use? |
| 21:34.16 | Cyanophytes | streuner: running telnet bbs on that machine |
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| 21:35.14 | dondelelcaro | tra1a1a: well, stat /var/lib/dpkg/info/jfbterm.list; failing is the problem. Can you stat /var/lib/dpkg/info? |
| 21:35.16 | tra1a1a | streuner: an old sid snapshot with sarge updates |
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| 21:35.48 | Vince34 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:37.24 | tra1a1a | dondelelcaro: this is the first time ever when I see linux saying to me access denied (as root) |
| 21:37.27 | Cyanophytes | streuner: The bbs software I have has a telnet server built into it. |
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| 21:39.11 | chealer | how would you call a distribution like Debian which only ships free software? |
| 21:39.17 | tra1a1a | dondelelcaro: I guess I'll just have to restart |
| 21:39.25 | GoodBadUgly_ | hello all. Anyone knows how can i do an apt-get update? My mirror is not working... |
| 21:39.46 | Vince34 | GoodBadUgly_, choose another one |
| 21:39.53 | Vince34 | ? |
| 21:39.54 | resiak | chealer: Free. |
| 21:40.17 | chealer | resiak: I'm just looking for a more formal term, if you know |
| 21:40.22 | tra1a1a | GoodBadUgly_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list - comment the current mirror and add another one |
| 21:40.59 | GoodBadUgly_ | tra1a1a thanks |
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| 21:41.21 | humbolt | Why are quotas in blocks rather than in MB? |
| 21:41.36 | xelam | to confuse you :) |
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| 21:41.51 | humbolt | Aren't block sizes different on certain filesystems? |
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| 21:42.38 | linuxfreck | blocks is just the traditional unix measurement |
| 21:42.44 | humbolt | So if I have a combined quota for a user for different filesystems, what blocksize is used then? |
| 21:42.50 | linuxfreck | 512 bytes iirc |
| 21:42.54 | humbolt | So how big is such a block |
| 21:43.10 | xelam | i thought 1k |
| 21:43.11 | xelam | o.O |
| 21:43.14 | resiak | Depends on the partition. |
| 21:43.20 | dondelelcaro | tra1a1a: hrm... that all looks fine. |
| 21:43.21 | humbolt | so? |
| 21:43.28 | karamelos | what is the diference between the netinst CD image, with Debian base and the businesscard CD image of debian installer CDs? |
| 21:43.42 | dondelelcaro | tra1a1a: and you can't ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/jfbterm.list |
| 21:43.54 | streuner | businesscards have usually less packages |
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| 21:44.28 | dabreegster | On the console, what's the best way to echo a string to the currently used tty with a color background using ANSI escape codes? echo string >> /dev/console does the trick. But how can I have it erase the message after a second? Also, how can I make it always be in the top-left corner? |
| 21:44.28 | humbolt | 1k 512b I have read a block in a filesystem can have up to 64k or even more, so what is a block for quota? |
| 21:44.34 | DaCa | karamelos: businesscard needs to go on the net to install the base system |
| 21:44.41 | dabreegster | I'm sure ncurses can do it, but is there a prebuilt tool for it? |
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| 21:45.30 | tra1a1a | dondelelcaro: I can't do anything with it. I've tried chmod and ls. |
| 21:45.51 | dondelelcaro | tra1a1a: hrm... are you running SELinux or anything? |
| 21:46.07 | karamelos | DaCa, mmm, so the netinst CD image! so what's the difference between both? |
| 21:46.33 | AMP | does anyone know why raidtools 1 & 2 have both been removed from the package list? |
| 21:46.47 | resiak | karamelos: The businesscard one doesn't have the base system on it, so you have a longer download. |
| 21:46.55 | resiak | !why is raidtools not in sarge |
| 21:46.55 | dpkg | resiak: what are you talking about? |
| 21:46.56 | streuner | AMP: sarge? |
| 21:47.00 | AMP | yep |
| 21:47.02 | AMP | unstable |
| 21:47.02 | resiak | Erm... |
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| 21:47.11 | resiak | AMP: So sid, not sarge. |
| 21:47.17 | DaCa | karamelos: no, netinst has all packages for the base system too, business has only the udeb's, you are talking sarge d-i CD's here right? |
| 21:47.25 | humbolt | quota mini-howto: "blocks in use" is the total number of blocks (in kilobytes) a user has consumed on a partition. |
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| 21:47.27 | AMP | yeah heh |
| 21:47.36 | tomb0y | hmm.. anyone know why when i ran a lilo -z -M /dev/hde and now try to do a cfdisk /dev/hde im receiving I/O errors ?? |
| 21:47.48 | tra1a1a | dondelelcaro: not that I know of. I'm running a custom kernel with lirc patch added but it has never failed on me before. Anyway the box is now restarted let's see what will happend |
| 21:48.50 | karamelos | DaCa, yep, now I understand thanks. |
| 21:48.54 | EmleyMoor | When I run aptitude (as root, before you ask), it cannot lock the cache file, therefore opening in read-only mode and not allowing me to do anything. What could be wrong? |
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| 21:48.59 | AMP | ive searched everywhere for a reason as to why raidtools has been removed |
| 21:49.04 | EmleyMoor | (sarge system) |
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| 21:49.33 | resiak | EmleyMoor: Are you running dpkg/apt-get/something else in another term? |
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| 21:49.38 | Blissex | EmleyMoor: any other running APT or DPKG application most likely. |
| 21:49.38 | EmleyMoor | No |
| 21:49.47 | dondelelcaro | tra1a1a: hrm... could be issues with reiserfs |
| 21:49.51 | EmleyMoor | Um... not to the best of my knowledge |
| 21:49.55 | Blissex | EmleyMoor: then perhaps the DPKG or APT lock files still exist after a crash... |
| 21:50.07 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... I will check |
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| 21:51.01 | Blissex | EmleyMoor: also try 'lsogf | egrep "(dpkg|apt)"' to check if you have another DPKG or APT running. |
| 21:51.05 | Blissex | EmleyMoor: also try 'lsof | egrep "(dpkg|apt)"' to check if you have another DPKG or APT running. |
| 21:51.07 | EmleyMoor | Sorted |
| 21:51.20 | EmleyMoor | Thanks for suggestions |
| 21:51.40 | tra1a1a | dondelelcaro: It works now. Thanks for the help. I didn't know about the /var/lib/dpkg/info dir. |
| 21:51.44 | resiak | EmleyMoor: What was it? |
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| 21:52.03 | EmleyMoor | Turned out there was a leftover file from an earlier run |
| 21:52.16 | resiak | EmleyMoor: Ace. |
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| 21:53.33 | sobersabre | hi guys where i should ask about email programming ( smtp etc. ) ? |
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| 21:53.56 | dondelelcaro | sobersabre: email programming? What exactly do you mean? |
| 21:54.06 | chealer | tra1a1a: so what was it? |
| 21:54.22 | dondelelcaro | chealer: some random reiserfs bug, mosg likely. |
| 21:54.30 | chealer | heh |
| 21:54.37 | sobersabre | i need to write an app that is an smtp client. i need to sign messages somehow to know that they came from me... |
| 21:54.45 | sobersabre | it's smtp diggin about headers. |
| 21:54.47 | resiak | sobersabre: In what language? |
| 21:54.54 | resiak | !tell sobersabre -about gpg |
| 21:55.07 | sobersabre | i tried to pass List-Id: <my stuff> |
| 21:55.20 | resiak | sobersabre: IN WHAT LANGUAGE? Go to #THATLANGUAGE |
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| 21:55.48 | sobersabre | but there are clients that eat some of the headers. |
| 21:55.57 | sobersabre | resiak, it is unrelated to language. |
| 21:56.01 | sobersabre | perl/c |
| 21:56.11 | AMP | eh i guess raidtools was replaced by mdadm |
| 21:56.15 | humbolt | what files do I have to copy from my remote machine to my local one on order to enable passwordless ssh login |
| 21:56.23 | resiak | sobersabre: It's absolutely not unrelated to language. You want to set a mail header in emails that you send. |
| 21:56.25 | PerfDave | sobersabre: Uhm, List-Id has a specific meaning, and will get overwritten by any MLM. Try setting an X- header. |
| 21:56.34 | PerfDave | sobersabre: And that's easy to forge anyway. |
| 21:56.55 | humbolt | I wanna sync some files to 2 machines every now and then. Is ssh + rsync the best solution for that? |
| 21:56.57 | sobersabre | PerfDave, it is for stupid win users |
| 21:56.57 | GoodBadUgly_ | anyone can tell me how can I update a certain software? something like: apt-get update centericq or something?? |
| 21:57.06 | xelam | yes |
| 21:57.14 | PerfDave | sobersabre: Use Thunderbird with Enigmail |
| 21:57.15 | sobersabre | i only care that the mail client doesn't overwrite something |
| 21:57.15 | humbolt | <xelam> yes |
| 21:57.16 | streuner | GoodBadUgly_: sarge? |
| 21:57.16 | humbolt | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.18 | xelam | apt-get update <package-name> |
| 21:57.19 | sobersabre | or doesn't drop it |
| 21:57.20 | humbolt | sorry |
| 21:57.20 | PerfDave | GoodBadUgly_: apt-get install centericq |
| 21:57.22 | GoodBadUgly_ | streuner: yes |
| 21:57.26 | resiak | sobersabre: So really you want to _pretend_ that it's digitally signed. |
| 21:57.26 | xelam | humbolt: ? |
| 21:57.32 | GoodBadUgly_ | PerfDave: even if I already have it? |
| 21:57.33 | streuner | GoodBadUgly_: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 21:57.38 | xelam | GoodBadUgly_: yes |
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| 21:57.43 | sobersabre | PerfDave, I can't force users to use Thunderbird |
| 21:57.47 | xelam | as long as you have done apt-get update first. |
| 21:57.48 | PerfDave | GoodBadUgly_: That will update you to the latest version available to you. |
| 21:57.52 | humbolt | xelam: jsut wanted to know who you are telling "yes" |
| 21:58.01 | PerfDave | sobersabre: I'm sure other e-mail clients support OpenPGP. |
| 21:58.04 | sobersabre | resiak, i didn't say i want to pretend. |
| 21:58.07 | xelam | oh |
| 21:58.10 | xelam | him ^ |
| 21:58.11 | xelam | ;) |
| 21:58.19 | sobersabre | PerfDave, i can't force people use GPG/PGP |
| 21:58.23 | resiak | sobersabre: Sure you can. |
| 21:58.25 | humbolt | What do I use to sync some files automatically every now and then? |
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| 21:58.35 | resiak | sobersabre: Or at least, you can say "If you use GPG/PGP, you can be sure that it really is me." |
| 21:58.38 | bbrazil | rsync |
| 21:58.41 | humbolt | rsync + ssh + keyfiles? |
| 21:58.48 | PerfDave | sobersabre: It's the best way to ensure that e-mail actually comes from you. Anything that involves injecting headers is totally insecure. |
| 21:58.52 | resiak | sobersabre: You can't say "Oh, look for the X-Hax0r header, because only I send it." |
| 21:59.05 | sobersabre | guys... why won't you wake up ? |
| 21:59.13 | sobersabre | :) |
| 21:59.18 | resiak | *plonk* |
| 21:59.22 | humbolt | bbrazil: what files to copy to my syncing master to enable passwordless ssh rsync transfer? |
| 21:59.24 | sobersabre | if it is your customer |
| 21:59.31 | plasmatics | how can you set debian to configure it's own ip address on a network? |
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| 21:59.40 | resiak | plasmatics: man interfaces |
| 21:59.47 | bbrazil | humbolt: the same so that ssh works, look up ssh public key auth |
| 22:00.00 | sobersabre | you cannot ask him kindly: would you fscking start using GPG/Thunderbird and... by the way, use FreeBSD, it is c00l |
| 22:00.05 | humbolt | I heard there is something called heartbeat, that is used for syncing clusters?! Can I use that as well? |
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| 22:00.16 | sobersabre | am i wrong ? |
| 22:00.31 | bbrazil | sobersabre: pgp(or similar) is the only solution. otherwise I suggest telling them to look at the received headers |
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| 22:00.46 | bltzfsck | more sound-related questions: |
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| 22:00.55 | sobersabre | guys this is another situation. |
| 22:01.06 | bbrazil | humbolt: thats for failover stuff, porbably not what you're looking for |
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| 22:01.09 | sobersabre | a program sends automated messages. |
| 22:01.16 | bltzfsck | i have several users configured on my box, and all the sound stuff that works for me, doesn't work for hte other users |
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| 22:01.20 | PerfDave | sobersabre: If you want your customer to be sure that they are receiving mail from you, then you need to use some kind of digital signature, and they need a client which supports that. Otherwise you're doing them a disservice by lying to them about the authenticity of your e-mail. |
| 22:01.35 | bbrazil | humbolt: if you've got a cluster look at rdist |
| 22:01.37 | bltzfsck | i can't even pull up a mixer in other sessions than my own |
| 22:02.03 | resiak | bltzfsck: adduser username audio, then log out and in. |
| 22:02.18 | sobersabre | if users reply them... i _would_like_ to know it came from the program, then i can .... pass it say via script to auto process it ( the script will double check if it is in the right format ) |
| 22:02.19 | bltzfsck | as root? |
| 22:02.25 | bltzfsck | i guess so, of course |
| 22:02.30 | resiak | bltzfsck: Sure. |
| 22:02.32 | bbrazil | sobersabre: you can heve gpg keys with no passwords (and several eqivilents of the same) |
| 22:02.37 | bltzfsck | thhx |
| 22:03.15 | bbrazil | sobersabre: also, you only need the private key to sign it, not to verify it |
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| 22:03.46 | sobersabre | bbrazil, thanks for the input... believe it or not, but I actually use gpg for my email. |
| 22:04.13 | sobersabre | but customers cannot be forced this without headache and time. i don't want headache and i don't have time. |
| 22:04.29 | bbrazil | I think pgp works with outlook |
| 22:04.30 | sobersabre | especially win users. |
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| 22:04.50 | sobersabre | bbrazil, it works if a user installs something. |
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| 22:05.21 | plasmatics | sry, i still don't know how to configure my network card to set the ip address... |
| 22:05.22 | bbrazil | sobersabre: what about a 'code' in each email that they can check on your website to see if the email is real |
| 22:05.24 | sobersabre | so ... is there an SMTP related channel on freenode ? |
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| 22:05.48 | resiak | plasmatics: Do you have a DHCP server on your network? |
| 22:05.57 | streuner | #postfix #exim? |
| 22:05.57 | plasmatics | resiak: yes |
| 22:06.07 | sobersabre | it's not a question of authencity. it's a question of fastening email processing. |
| 22:06.10 | plasmatics | (i've done all this in windows, but i can't find it in debian) |
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| 22:07.04 | sobersabre | if user gets a form from me, fills it, and i get it "signed" ( not really signed ), i feed it to a script that will do a syntax sanity check, and then feed it to a dbms |
| 22:07.21 | resiak | plasmatics: Add the lines "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" to your /etc/network/interfaces . Then ifdown eth0; ifup eth0. Then go read man interfaces again :) |
| 22:07.32 | sobersabre | and if a user writes a message "by hand" i give this message to humand to process. |
| 22:07.35 | plasmatics | resiak: thanks |
| 22:07.36 | sobersabre | humans |
| 22:07.47 | sobersabre | bbrazil, got me ? |
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| 22:08.33 | plasmatics | resiak: those lines are already there, i want to manually configure my ip address |
| 22:08.49 | SEcki | plasmatics: man ifconfig |
| 22:08.54 | omnistegan | is there an option for apt-get that will automatically get all the recoomended packages? |
| 22:08.55 | resiak | plasmatics: I say again, man interfaces |
| 22:09.00 | resiak | plasmatics: But /j #flood |
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| 22:09.06 | resiak | omnistegan: Define "recommended". |
| 22:09.26 | bbrazil | sobersabre: at what point is the signing? |
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| 22:09.46 | oskie | is it "a UPNP server" or "an UPNP server"? |
| 22:09.46 | omnistegan | resiak: when i run apt-get it shows a list of recommended packages when i try to install something |
| 22:10.02 | resiak | omnistegan: Recommended for _what_? |
| 22:10.13 | PerfDave | sobersabre: Let me get this straight, you want to send e-mails from a script and have it set a particular header which will be honoured in a reply to the message, so you can tell if a reply is a reply to something machine-generated or hand-generated? |
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| 22:10.23 | kaplanfx | can a failing agp or pci card effect an ata/EIDE HD? |
| 22:10.36 | Overand | in theory |
| 22:10.47 | Blissex | resiak: recommended by the authors of that package... |
| 22:10.54 | omnistegan | resiak, for instance i just installed firefox and it reads in the apt-get printout: Suggested packages: mozilla-firefox-gnome-support latex-xft-fonts xprint |
| 22:10.58 | kaplanfx | Overand: yeah about a year ago I accidently broke off a capacitor |
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| 22:11.01 | resiak | Oh... |
| 22:11.07 | xelam | kaplanfx: affect how? |
| 22:11.09 | resiak | omnistegan: Sorry, I was being insanely dumb there. |
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| 22:11.19 | Mash | i'm back |
| 22:11.20 | resiak | omnistegan: If you use aptitude, it can do nice things with Suggests: |
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| 22:11.32 | PerfDave | oskie: "a UPNP" unless you pronounce "UPNP" as "upnup" or something. |
| 22:11.39 | kaplanfx | xelam: I just realized my gfx card was having serious power regulation issues |
| 22:11.49 | omnistegan | resiak: i just want apt-get to automatically get those packages |
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| 22:11.55 | kaplanfx | xelam: due to a capacitor I popped off accidently about a year ago |
| 22:11.59 | Blissex | omnistegan: I support <resiak>'s suggestion to use 'aptitude' or 'synaptic' |
| 22:12.05 | resiak | omnistegan: So use aptitude |
| 22:12.05 | xelam | oops |
| 22:12.11 | PerfDave | omnistegan: I think you can set that in apt.conf, or use aptitude |
| 22:12.12 | xelam | are you handy with a soldering iron? |
| 22:12.19 | xelam | and no, i doubt it would affect the harddisk |
| 22:12.21 | kaplanfx | xelam: about the same time the video card really started crapping out I had some bad issues with my hd |
| 22:12.33 | Blissex | omnistegan: usually it is not a good idea to autoinstall all recommended, but 'aptitude' and 'synaptic' make it very easy. |
| 22:12.46 | sobersabre | PerfDave, you are correct. |
| 22:12.50 | kaplanfx | hd seems ok now that I have removed the card an am using the onboard video |
| 22:12.56 | xelam | ok |
| 22:13.01 | omnistegan | Blissex: ok thanks |
| 22:13.07 | Blissex | omnistegan: even manually. When you install a package they also list all recommended ones and then you click on a line and you can select to install them too. |
| 22:13.09 | kaplanfx | im going to go buy a new gfx card, im wondering if I should get a new hd too |
| 22:13.11 | xelam | i guess there was "bad electricity" generated by the card :) |
| 22:13.17 | calin | Is it possible to run linux off of an external hard drive? |
| 22:13.18 | PerfDave | sobersabre: Then your options are to use the Subject: header, and set In-Reply-To: differently for machine-generated e-mails and have two return addresses. |
| 22:13.18 | xelam | umm |
| 22:13.24 | kaplanfx | xelam: yeah it was apperently effecting my sound card too |
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| 22:13.32 | kaplanfx | I was getting feedback in my sound |
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| 22:13.46 | SEcki | sound card?!? wow |
| 22:13.46 | Overand | 'dirty' electricityt, xelam |
| 22:13.52 | xelam | ok |
| 22:13.54 | xelam | :P |
| 22:14.02 | Overand | the cap might have been a 'buffer' for PS voltage |
| 22:14.03 | oskie | PerfDave: it's 'universal plug and play', shouldn't it be written 'an upnp server' then? |
| 22:14.20 | Overand | oskie: no |
| 22:14.21 | humbolt | bbrazil: Ok, checked the ssh man pages, but there is one question left. What for is the host key in /etc/ssh/? |
| 22:14.28 | kaplanfx | xelam: and about the soldering, I do have the tools here but the leads were completely gone and I was unable to determine what type of cap it was |
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| 22:14.30 | bbrazil | sobersabre: procmail for the detection. Is the 'client' a webform by any chance, or is it something emailed out to the user that they send back? |
| 22:14.31 | leo | any suggestions in which one of the existent media player software is the best one? |
| 22:14.38 | resiak | !best |
| 22:14.38 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 22:14.39 | xelam | oskie: no, it's always "a" before "un..." |
| 22:14.44 | xelam | erm |
| 22:14.44 | Overand | kaplanfx: it was probably a surfae mount cap anyway |
| 22:14.45 | xelam | no |
| 22:14.52 | Overand | soldering surface mount *sucks* |
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| 22:14.59 | sobersabre | bbrazil, client is emailed a form, |
| 22:15.00 | xelam | it's "a" before "universal" though :P |
| 22:15.00 | oskie | OK |
| 22:15.00 | bbrazil | humbolt: to prove that you are indeed talking to the server you think you're talking to |
| 22:15.07 | kaplanfx | Overand: so its possible all kinds of problems I was having were power regulations from the gfx card? |
| 22:15.08 | xelam | "a university" |
| 22:15.14 | PerfDave | oskie: No, because you pronounce the letters in UPNP individually, and it's "a U boat" for example. |
| 22:15.18 | xelam | but, "an umbrella" :P |
| 22:15.18 | bbrazil | sobersabre: this makes it interesting, your only hope is Subject |
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| 22:15.20 | Overand | i've got a Wellser WTCPT temp-controlled solder station and i don't do sufrace-mount soldering |
| 22:15.21 | kaplanfx | er power regulation issues |
| 22:15.23 | resiak | oskie, PerfDave, xelam: We've had this argument here before. PerfDave is right. |
| 22:15.32 | oskie | PerfDave, Overand, xelam, resiak: ok, thanks! |
| 22:15.34 | PerfDave | But "an hotel", don't forget ;) |
| 22:15.44 | sobersabre | bbrazil, this is what i am afraid of :-] |
| 22:15.46 | bbrazil | sobersabre: actually, message-id or references could work too, depending on mail client (should, but some are really borked) |
| 22:15.46 | Overand | PerfDave: in england, 'an hotel' |
| 22:15.53 | Overand | PerfDave: in the US, 'a hotel' is acceptable |
| 22:15.56 | kaplanfx | Overand: it look like surface mount (you mean that is soldered on the same side of the card instead of having the leads go through the board and soldered at the back right?) |
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| 22:16.00 | resiak | In England, a hotel. I say the h. |
| 22:16.03 | Overand | the pronounciation of the letter H varies |
| 22:16.07 | humbolt | bbrazil: Ah, stupid me, this is what I am asked to save in known_hosts on first login?! |
| 22:16.11 | leo | best = the one who works ok for the avarage |
| 22:16.12 | PerfDave | Overand: Yes, but the US don't speak proper English like what we do. |
| 22:16.14 | sobersabre | bbrazil, message-id is overwritten by smtp. |
| 22:16.15 | bbrazil | humbolt: pretty much |
| 22:16.19 | PerfDave | resiak: an hotel is still correct, even with the "h". |
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| 22:16.36 | resiak | PerfDave: "An ho tell" ? |
| 22:16.36 | Overand | PerfDave: heh |
| 22:16.40 | bltzfsck | what file starts the esd daemon? it seems to start whenever X restarts, and i'd like to GET RID OF IT |
| 22:16.43 | bbrazil | sobersabre: yes, but a proper mua will set In-Reply-To to the message-id of the original mail |
| 22:16.46 | TeXitoi | é |
| 22:16.51 | resiak | Oh, shit, I do say "an 'otel". |
| 22:16.52 | xelam | ""uh" hotel" |
| 22:16.52 | bbrazil | sobersabre: its how threading works |
| 22:16.54 | TeXitoi | ha, c mieu ;-) |
| 22:17.00 | PerfDave | resiak: Yes :) |
| 22:17.01 | xelam | hmm |
| 22:17.02 | humbolt | bbrazil: With how many bit ... is this key generated on ssh install? What are reasonable settings for the identity keys? |
| 22:17.06 | TeXitoi | oups, sory, wrong chan |
| 22:17.19 | resiak | PerfDave: I say both... Damned ambiguous accent. |
| 22:17.19 | xelam | hmm |
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| 22:17.23 | leo | i asked a suggestion not a known true: any good media player? i just need a name... |
| 22:17.26 | xelam | but saying "otel" is chavish :( |
| 22:17.37 | bbrazil | humbolt: the host key is done on install, don't worry about it unless you are compromised. a general ssh key 1024 is what I use |
| 22:17.37 | PerfDave | leo: vlc, xine, mplayer, any you like :p |
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| 22:17.43 | xelam | "an 'otel" and "a hotel" |
| 22:17.45 | PerfDave | bbrazil, sobersabre: Newer versions of Outlook have taken to doing very fucked up things with In-Reply-To: and References: |
| 22:17.50 | leo | PerfDave: thank you! |
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| 22:17.59 | PerfDave | resiak: You're not a chav, you're a cockney geezer! :) |
| 22:18.05 | xelam | resiak: seems i say both, randomly |
| 22:18.06 | resiak | PerfDave: Whatev', bruv. |
| 22:18.11 | PerfDave | resiak: Innit |
| 22:18.14 | sobersabre | PerfDave, I have to deal with this. |
| 22:18.17 | resiak | xelam: I just realised I do the same. |
| 22:18.18 | resiak | PerfDave: Safe. |
| 22:18.19 | unixfool_ | whats a good find alias/function to have 'find' ignore/prune all .svn and CVS directories? |
| 22:18.26 | PerfDave | sobersabre: So use Reply-To or Subject |
| 22:18.32 | sobersabre | PerfDave, both Outlook and OE are ... hm... |
| 22:18.34 | bbrazil | sobersabre: I say use a big regex to look for the form, if it isn't syntatically correct send it to a human |
| 22:18.39 | sobersabre | killer apps. |
| 22:18.44 | PerfDave | sobersabre: So use Reply-To or Subject |
| 22:18.46 | humbolt | RSA or DSA? |
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| 22:18.57 | sobersabre | PerfDave, i will. |
| 22:19.04 | sobersabre | Subject. |
| 22:19.19 | ongeboren | how about the latest gnome in debian unstable? is it expected soon ? |
| 22:19.20 | PerfDave | sobersabre: You might want to look at how Request Tracker handles this, that has pretty good ways of dealing with e-mail automation. |
| 22:19.29 | humbolt | bbrazil: ssh-keygen -t rsa or dsa? |
| 22:19.29 | bbrazil | humbolt: I forget -- ithink dsa for ssh2 |
| 22:19.33 | PerfDave | ongeboren: Probably not until after Sarge releases. |
| 22:19.41 | resiak | PerfDave: We were saying that for 2.6 ;) |
| 22:19.47 | CharlesBrown | When will sarge be stable? |
| 22:19.48 | bltzfsck | resiak, where is the esd daemon started? it seems to restart with X |
| 22:19.48 | sobersabre | hopefully stupid human won't change subject to "from Dave" |
| 22:19.56 | resiak | bltzfsck: Do you use Gnome? |
| 22:19.56 | humbolt | bbrazil: both are for ssh2 rsa1 dsa1 for ssh1 |
| 22:20.01 | PerfDave | CharlesBrown: I can't answer, I can't answer that |
| 22:20.06 | bltzfsck | resiak, yep |
| 22:20.08 | ongeboren | PerfDave, and the sarge are due in about how many time? |
| 22:20.08 | PerfDave | ARGH! |
| 22:20.15 | resiak | bltzfsck: Applications / Preferences / Sound and untick Start sound server. |
| 22:20.20 | resiak | !wwsr |
| 22:20.20 | dpkg | Sarge will release WIR; SIYH. Current estimates are N+30 days, where N is when debian-security updates for sarge come online, in april 2005. Latest release update : http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/04/msg00003.html and ask me about <sarge pool>, <wir>, <siyh>, <sarge guess> and <sing sarge>. Sarge takes too long? ask me about <vancouver> |
| 22:20.21 | bbrazil | PerfDave: I can't see how reply-to would help, other than making sure the mail went to the right place |
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| 22:20.37 | ongeboren | ok, thanks |
| 22:20.41 | bltzfsck | resiak, thx |
| 22:20.45 | bbrazil | humbolt: either then |
| 22:20.50 | resiak | !thx |
| 22:20.50 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. |
| 22:20.51 | humbolt | bbrazil: If I set a passphrase I do have to type that in on every login right, in order to decrypt the private key for usage? |
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| 22:21.06 | bbrazil | humbolt: yes. see also, ssh-agent (pagent on windows) |
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| 22:21.22 | PerfDave | bbrazil: Set In-Reply-To for mails sent from the script, don't for mails sent by hand, have the same From: address and two incoming addresses for replies. |
| 22:21.30 | sobersabre | PerfDave, bbrazil and resiak thank you very much for the input. |
| 22:21.40 | PerfDave | ARGH! I have Bros stuck in my head! |
| 22:21.59 | sobersabre | what is Bros ? |
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| 22:22.07 | bbrazil | PerfDave: that makes more sense |
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| 22:22.30 | PerfDave | sobersabre: A very bad English boy-band |
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| 22:22.48 | resiak | PerfDave: Should I have heard of them? |
| 22:23.00 | PerfDave | resiak: Yes. Matt and Luke Goss. |
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| 22:24.52 | bbrazil | sobersabre: you know procmail supports piping to an external program and can do different things depending on the return value |
| 22:25.15 | resiak | PerfDave: Never heard of it :) |
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| 22:25.41 | simonrvn | fbfd1338: speak up now so you don't get labelled a spam bot |
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| 22:26.49 | simonrvn | nah, just some person |
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| 22:27.37 | resiak | 93 minutes to go... |
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| 22:28.02 | amahbod | hello, i am trying to find a program that is comparible to microsoft visual studio |
| 22:28.06 | amahbod | but for debian |
| 22:28.06 | resiak | PerfDave: Well, that achieved the desired effect. |
| 22:28.09 | resiak | amahbod: kdevelop |
| 22:28.18 | amahbod | resiak, does it work for java, c++, c? |
| 22:28.21 | resiak | amahbod: Unless you mean visual basic, in which case I have NFI |
| 22:28.28 | resiak | amahbod: Not Java, AFAIK. Also see anjuta |
| 22:28.37 | resiak | amahbod: Or just learn to use vim or emacs |
| 22:28.50 | Pappa | emacs = very complicated. |
| 22:28.59 | amahbod | but emacs doesnt do syntax hilighting |
| 22:29.00 | amahbod | right? |
| 22:29.04 | Pappa | yes it does |
| 22:29.06 | dondelelcaro | amahbod: wrong. |
| 22:29.09 | simonrvn | yes it does |
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| 22:29.28 | zapalotta | hello |
| 22:29.30 | amahbod | so what program can i use for c/c++, and what can i use for java |
| 22:29.33 | dondelelcaro | there are actually very few languages which emacs doesn't have a hilighting mode for |
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| 22:29.50 | bbrazil | amahbod: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Devtools/ides.html |
| 22:29.52 | amahbod | so what is the best program / program you guys use? |
| 22:29.54 | dondelelcaro | amahbod: you use the same editor for all of them |
| 22:30.12 | dondelelcaro | amahbod: almost everyone who does serious work either uses emacs or vim and the gnu toolchain. |
| 22:30.13 | Pappa | vim. |
| 22:30.15 | zapalotta | I installed awstats on a sarge and followed awstats' docs and README.Debian. works quite well but it doesn't find the java stuff. Anybody an idea? |
| 22:30.27 | amahbod | dondelelcaro, so you highly recommend that i use emacs |
| 22:30.38 | dondelelcaro | amahbod: I highly recommend that you use one of emacs or vim |
| 22:30.58 | amahbod | dondelelcaro, you are talking about the graphical emacs right? |
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| 22:31.13 | dondelelcaro | amahbod: eh? It's an editor. It doesn't need to be graphical. |
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| 22:31.19 | resiak | !tell zapalotta -about java |
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| 22:31.28 | Pappa | vim is faster to learn, and is very advanced, while emacs is a bit harder to learn, but supports doing-everything-with-macros (and runs like an operating system.) |
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| 22:31.41 | drp | I disagree with Pappa |
| 22:31.47 | drp | emacs was faster for me to learn |
| 22:31.50 | drp | to each his own theough |
| 22:31.55 | dondelelcaro | Pappa: it's probably actually the other way around... but YMMV. |
| 22:31.58 | Pappa | emacs is hell |
| 22:31.59 | resiak | !start an editor war |
| 22:31.59 | dpkg | joe is known to cause ulcers |
| 22:32.04 | zapalotta | resiak, I *do* know what java is, I just wonder why awstats doesn't find it's java stuff on debian but does e.g. on FreeBSD |
| 22:32.14 | bbrazil | amahbod: a simple editor is nano(virtually 0 learning, not very powerful), if you want to learn vim run vimtutor |
| 22:32.17 | Pappa | ctrl-this meta-that everywhere |
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| 22:32.19 | humbolt | how can I change the hostname of a running machine. I mean in a way that hostname shows the new hostname?! |
| 22:32.31 | goron | Yeah! My home network works :) First configured it for Windows. And then Debian (no configuration, out of the BOX :-) ) Great! |
| 22:32.35 | dondelelcaro | Pappa: sure, you either have that or you wear out escape... |
| 22:32.38 | fflush | humbolt: hostname newHostname |
| 22:32.40 | resiak | zapalotta: Read the damned factoid. There's no Java in Debian unless you install it. |
| 22:32.51 | dondelelcaro | Pappa: and if that's a big deal, there *is* a viper mode... |
| 22:33.07 | Pappa | wtf is viper mode? |
| 22:33.15 | dondelelcaro | Pappa: vi keybindings |
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| 22:33.23 | amahbod_ | damn it, computer froze |
| 22:33.29 | zapalotta | resiak, I don't need java (it's an applet, the client is Win XP. I'm talking about the server which should provide the applet. And the server doesn't need to support java at all just to send an applet to the client IIRC |
| 22:33.37 | amahbod_ | buggy tv card drivers ~_~ |
| 22:33.38 | resiak | zapalotta: Oh, sorry, I had no idea. |
| 22:33.42 | zapalotta | :) |
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| 22:33.46 | Pappa | and why is there an "xemacs"? thought xemacs forked off emacs 17 or something, and they now have almost identical features.. ? |
| 22:34.19 | dondelelcaro | Pappa: you might as well ask why there is an nvi, a vi, a vim, elvi, etc. |
| 22:34.21 | resiak | Pappa: Google on it. |
| 22:34.22 | amahbod_ | um |
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| 22:34.49 | amahbod_ | dondelelcaro, sorry to ask again, but you were talking about xemacs21 |
| 22:34.52 | dondelelcaro | "someone decided that they could do foo better" |
| 22:34.53 | Mash_ | i'm back |
| 22:34.55 | amahbod_ | dondelelcaro, right? |
| 22:35.10 | amahbod_ | dondelelcaro, it is 104MB... |
| 22:35.12 | dondelelcaro | amahbod_: no, I'm talking about emacs21. If you prefer xemacs, feel free to use that, too. |
| 22:35.27 | amahbod_ | dondelelcaro, emacs21 is a non-graphical version? |
| 22:35.37 | Pappa | well, emacs have extremely many useful features. i guess it's "learn it and love it". |
| 22:35.39 | drp | amahbod_: iirc you can use both |
| 22:35.41 | abrotman | erm .. which program would a user use to change his GECOS info? |
| 22:35.50 | Mike77 | Startup question: Where can I disable XDM at startup? I can't find rc.conf or .bash_profile. |
| 22:35.58 | drp | amahbod_: -mw if you don't want the graphical version iirc |
| 22:36.03 | dondelelcaro | amahbod_: no. xemacs and emacs are totally separate. They both will work in X. |
| 22:36.07 | Pappa | update-rc.d -f xdm remove |
| 22:36.07 | dondelelcaro | drp: it's actually -nw |
| 22:36.14 | dondelelcaro | !nodm |
| 22:36.14 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 22:36.15 | drac | Mike77: apt-get install rcconf && rcconf, and unselect xdm, kdm, gdm |
| 22:36.15 | drp | dondelelcaro: iirc |
| 22:36.23 | drp | dondelelcaro: but yeah |
| 22:36.31 | drp | thanks for the correction |
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| 22:36.49 | abrotman | paulswm wins .. chfn |
| 22:36.57 | dondelelcaro | drp: no worries... usually it does the right thing anyway... |
| 22:37.05 | Mike77 | I still want to keep XDM. But I don't want it to run at startup. Should I do the same? |
| 22:37.06 | abrotman | fuck .. permision denied |
| 22:37.09 | sobersabre | skype problem... echos apear when connecting via NAT. |
| 22:37.18 | dondelelcaro | Mike77: see what dpkg said earlier. |
| 22:37.36 | opteek | woody is stable? |
| 22:37.41 | dondelelcaro | opteek: yes. |
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| 22:38.08 | sobersabre | how can I remove them ? |
| 22:38.12 | amahbod_ | dondelelcaro, thanks for your help |
| 22:38.17 | dondelelcaro | amahbod_: np |
| 22:39.36 | kingsley | Will a swap partition be faster if it's located next to or far away from the disk drive's spindle? |
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| 22:40.51 | fbfd1338 | anyone know why when I try to connect to suse channel i end up in debian? |
| 22:41.28 | resiak | abrotman: ^^ |
| 22:41.59 | abrotman | heh |
| 22:42.05 | abrotman | ask #suse |
| 22:42.38 | resiak | /j #suse |
| 22:42.41 | abrotman | or ask #freenode |
| 22:42.44 | resiak | 23:42 -!- Irssi: Join to #suse was synced in 1 secs |
| 22:43.16 | fbfd1338 | ask #suse |
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| 22:43.29 | resiak | fbfd1338: on Freenode, or elsewhere? |
| 22:43.55 | abrotman | fbfd1338: you ask #suse |
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| 22:44.04 | dondelelcaro | #suse is only +tnc, so there's no way you'd end up here unless they set up a ban forward for you |
| 22:44.16 | abrotman | and why woudl they send him here |
| 22:44.23 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: no clue |
| 22:44.25 | fbfd1338 | on freenode i was told there was a #suse channel on freenode however when i enter channel #suse i end up here |
| 22:44.42 | abrotman | fbfd1338: /join #suse |
| 22:44.43 | dondelelcaro | fbfd1338: so /part; and /join #suse |
| 22:45.02 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: troll? |
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| 22:45.17 | abrotman | oh well |
| 22:45.17 | Eclipser | does java-package support JDK? |
| 22:45.19 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: nah, just new to IRC |
| 22:45.29 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: that's pretty new |
| 22:45.34 | Pupeno | Is there a command line tool to add users to groups (and remove them from groups) ? |
| 22:45.42 | dondelelcaro | Pupeno: adduser |
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| 22:46.02 | dondelelcaro | Pupeno: (and the companion, deluser) |
| 22:46.02 | CharlesBrown | In fedora, I would type service vsftpd start |
| 22:46.06 | CharlesBrown | or service vsftpd restart |
| 22:46.12 | CharlesBrown | How should I do it in debian? |
| 22:46.14 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
| 22:46.21 | abrotman | oh .. to start it ? |
| 22:46.21 | dondelelcaro | CharlesBrown: and in Debian you go /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart |
| 22:46.23 | resiak | CharlesBrown: /etc/init.d/service restart |
| 22:46.24 | Pupeno | dondelelcaro: I thought that only handled add and deleting users to the system, I'll check the man page. |
| 22:46.27 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/vsftpd blah |
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| 22:46.36 | CharlesBrown | thanks |
| 22:46.40 | dondelelcaro | Pupeno: it handles basically everything related to uesrs... |
| 22:47.01 | fbfd1338 | it still wont let me join......is it just #suse? or #suse-linux or something? |
| 22:47.09 | dondelelcaro | fbfd1338: it's just #suse. |
| 22:47.13 | abrotman | resiak: are you still in #suse? |
| 22:47.17 | resiak | abrotman: Hell yes. |
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| 22:47.21 | resiak | fbfd1338: They say to try #novell |
| 22:47.28 | abrotman | hehe |
| 22:47.41 | fbfd1338 | ok, i'll try novell |
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| 22:48.22 | fbfd1338 | part |
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| 22:48.32 | JRWR | Is compiling Wine ok on debain |
| 22:48.33 | xelam | ffs |
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| 22:48.41 | JRWR | or debianpkgs |
| 22:48.50 | JRWR | the way to go |
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| 22:48.58 | xelam | JRWR: apt-get install wine |
| 22:49.00 | resiak | JRWR: Just apt-get install wine |
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| 22:49.12 | JRWR | but im using woody |
| 22:49.18 | resiak | JRWR: Oh |
| 22:49.24 | resiak | JRWR: As a desktop? |
| 22:49.28 | xelam | ick |
| 22:49.30 | JRWR | and theres no intenet on it |
| 22:49.31 | xelam | update to sarge ;) |
| 22:49.32 | _kaz | is there a way to update the output of apt-cache? |
| 22:49.35 | xelam | no internet? :O |
| 22:49.42 | xelam | that's just rude :) |
| 22:49.47 | drp | apt-get update |
| 22:49.53 | JRWR | Winmodems and Netzero |
| 22:49.58 | resiak | Hah, fbfd1338 made it. |
| 22:50.03 | _kaz | like so I can see what the most recently kernel package available is? |
| 22:50.03 | xelam | netzero? |
| 22:50.04 | JRWR | dont mix well with linux |
| 22:50.13 | xelam | what's netzero? |
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| 22:50.19 | JRWR | a Cheap ISP |
| 22:50.22 | JRWR | with softwar |
| 22:50.23 | xelam | _kaz: apt-get update |
| 22:50.32 | JRWR | Windows only softwar |
| 22:50.36 | JRWR | like AOL |
| 22:50.41 | xelam | x.x |
| 22:50.43 | abrotman | JRWR: duh .. you have to run thier software |
| 22:50.46 | abrotman | duh duh duh |
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| 22:50.47 | JRWR | but smaller and cheaper |
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| 22:50.56 | JRWR | anyway |
| 22:50.59 | xelam | does that mean it doesn't do standard dialup? |
| 22:51.05 | JRWR | yes |
| 22:51.18 | _kaz | xelam: thanks |
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| 22:52.17 | Boyette | whats the dpkg thing to reconfigure what mods you have installed? |
| 22:52.27 | xelam | dpkg-reconfigure <package> ? |
| 22:52.31 | Boyette | or it may not be dpkg |
| 22:52.43 | Boyette | no, like the network card module |
| 22:52.48 | xelam | boyette lol |
| 22:52.53 | xelam | does that mean girl? :P |
| 22:52.56 | xelam | o.O |
| 22:53.02 | Boyette | last name |
| 22:53.04 | xelam | what do you want to change? |
| 22:53.08 | xelam | lol ok. |
| 22:53.15 | Boyette | want to install my network card |
| 22:53.22 | xelam | well |
| 22:53.22 | drac | Boyette: modconf |
| 22:53.28 | Boyette | thanks |
| 22:53.34 | xelam | ah. |
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| 22:55.05 | JRWR | so is compiling wine ok? |
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| 22:55.16 | Cyanophytes | anyone know where I can get unit2dos conversion program |
| 22:55.18 | robin_sz | hi gurls, I just threw a 3com 3c905B into my Sarge box and sarge failed to recognise it .. is this a known thing before I waste time looking deeper .. ISTR 3c905B supprt was non-existent in early linuxes ... |
| 22:55.31 | Cyanophytes | unix2dos even |
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| 22:55.47 | drac | Cyanophytes: apt-get install sysutils |
| 22:55.58 | xelam | JRWR: make sure you stick it in /usr/local/bin |
| 22:56.05 | xelam | or /usr/local/<whatever> |
| 22:56.35 | dabreegster | Anybody know where i can get a list of capabilities in the terminfo database that I can use with tput? I'm using the linux console. |
| 22:56.40 | JRWR | can i convert a ext3 filesystem to a fat32 ? |
| 22:56.47 | Blissex | dabreegster: yes. |
| 22:56.48 | xelam | no |
| 22:56.56 | xelam | JRWR: no |
| 22:56.59 | JRWR | lol |
| 22:57.04 | xelam | you need to reformat. |
| 22:57.05 | PerfDave | JRWR: I doubt it. Why would you want to? |
| 22:57.08 | drac | JRWR: backup, format, restore. |
| 22:57.17 | JRWR | i dont know i whantedtoask |
| 22:57.21 | JRWR | so is compiling wine ok? |
| 22:57.33 | PerfDave | JRWR: /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 22:57.38 | PerfDave | JRWR: Are there not Debian packages for WINE? |
| 22:57.42 | JRWR | yes |
| 22:57.57 | Cyanophytes | drac: Thank you |
| 22:58.00 | JRWR | there are |
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| 22:58.09 | robin_sz | JRWR: sure ... its easy ... just cat /dev/random to the devise .. it doesnt make it *eaxactly* into a FAT32 partition, but its pretty similar ... |
| 22:58.11 | dabreegster | Blissex: where? |
| 22:58.37 | Blissex | dabreegster: I did not say I was the one who knew that, only confirmed that someone knows :-) |
| 22:58.44 | Boyette | modconf didn't come up |
| 22:58.53 | drac | Boyette: apt-get install modconf && modconf |
| 22:58.56 | Boyette | can't |
| 22:59.04 | Blissex | dabreegster: however, try 'man 5 terminfo' |
| 22:59.05 | Boyette | lol im trying to run it to get network card installed |
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| 22:59.53 | dabreegster | Blissex: alright, thanks. |
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| 23:00.00 | Boyette | is there an alt to modconf? |
| 23:00.06 | dabreegster | Blissex: and let's not get into semantics. not now, not here. |
| 23:00.15 | drac | Boyette: lsmod, insmod, modprobe, rmmod, depmod.. |
| 23:00.23 | Blissex | dabreegster: it is a technical channel after all... |
| 23:00.32 | robin_sz | I just threw a 3com 3c905B into my Sarge box and sarge failed to recognise it .. is this a known thing before I waste time looking deeper |
| 23:00.47 | citral | hrmf, it's a problem to do screen -x on a machine thqat is 1024x768. The original screen on the 800x600 laptop is missing the end of lines. |
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| 23:01.19 | Boyette | thanks |
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| 23:02.36 | markus_ | Hello. The latest Samba-Security-Update for Woody resulted in "INTERNAL ERROR: Signal 11 [...] PANIC: internal error". Does anybody else have this problem? Any ideas? |
| 23:03.05 | resiak | citral: then attach first on the 800x600 laptop. |
| 23:03.37 | robin_sz | hmm .. it seems the 3c59x.ko driver should support the 3c905b-tx |
| 23:03.52 | markus_ | (The current solution is to use 2.2.11 from samba.org, but that's not really "optimal" (since it has several security leaks and is not maintained anymore).) |
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| 23:04.15 | markus_ | (Replace "solution" with "workaround" in my previous post ...) |
| 23:04.34 | citral | resiak: worked, thanks |
| 23:04.57 | resiak | citral: No problem. I think you can do some mystical screen incantation to resize the screen, but I don't know it. I just do that. :) |
| 23:05.37 | citral | resiak: hmm the other machine is actually winbloze with putty, maybe there is a setting. I'll look. |
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| 23:07.19 | dafen | I wonder which is better netscape navigator or mozilla firefox |
| 23:07.20 | dondelelcaro | dafen: firefox |
| 23:07.23 | dondelelcaro | there is no question |
| 23:07.27 | dafen | y? |
| 23:07.32 | dondelelcaro | !y |
| 23:07.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, y is http://www.y-windows.org/, or it's "why", not y. w h y. see u, any1. NOT a substitute for I. If you mean yourself in the first person use 'I' and not 'y'. |
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| 23:07.43 | dafen | coz firefox still can't dispaly a few ie supported webpages |
| 23:07.58 | xelam | firefox is wayyyyyyyyy better than netscape. |
| 23:08.09 | xelam | firefox displays pages correctly, IE doesnt |
| 23:08.13 | Overand | dafen: that is to say, firefox still can't display 'a few web sites that were designed for IE, not for standards' |
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| 23:08.28 | resiak | Netscape's rendering engine == Firefox's rendering engine. |
| 23:08.32 | dafen | but lots of websites disgned for ie 5.0+ |
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| 23:08.44 | xelam | dafen: lots of websites not worth visiting :) |
| 23:08.51 | dondelelcaro | dafen: that's great. That's their problem, not ours. |
| 23:08.59 | xelam | and anyway, that doesn't mean they won't work. |
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| 23:09.10 | dafen | it's liking living in this world, lots of things are nasty but you have to do it |
| 23:09.12 | xelam | the ONLY website I have problems with in Firefox, is microsoft.com :P |
| 23:09.27 | dafen | it's not my choice.... |
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| 23:09.49 | resiak | dafen: What site do you _need_ that Firefox won't play nicely with? |
| 23:09.53 | dafen | like my dad's company's web form, if he wants to submit something, then firefox won't do it |
| 23:09.58 | xelam | anyway, netscape certainly won't do any better than firefox. |
| 23:10.08 | dafen | and if he ddin't submit job report.. yo know what's gonna happen next |
| 23:10.09 | xelam | dafen: must be very poorly coded then (!) |
| 23:10.09 | resiak | dafen: Then complain to whoever is involved in maknig it. |
| 23:10.10 | dondelelcaro | dafen: so have your dad's company fix their webform |
| 23:10.31 | dafen | lol, I bet you dare to say that to thy boss |
| 23:10.39 | dondelelcaro | dafen: and either way, this has little to nothing to do with #debian. |
| 23:10.58 | xelam | well |
| 23:11.02 | kingsley | What's a good way to automatically and incrementally backup a windows partition? |
| 23:11.05 | dondelelcaro | dafen: I have no problem saying that to anyone's boss. |
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| 23:11.24 | xelam | kingsley: from windows? o.O |
| 23:11.54 | xelam | if from debian, i'd say rsync. |
| 23:12.24 | genix_ | Do I need the kernel (/usr/src/linux/) source to run a custom kernel (dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.....deb)? |
| 23:12.27 | xelam | depending on what you want to backup to |
| 23:12.33 | xelam | no |
| 23:12.33 | dondelelcaro | genix_: no. |
| 23:13.01 | priest | genix_: don't you use apt-get? ;) |
| 23:13.04 | xelam | besides, apt-get would tell you what dependencies are needed, and install them, for any package. |
| 23:13.11 | xelam | hmm |
| 23:14.27 | paulswm | kingsley: If it's an ntfs partition you can use ntfsclone, but it doesn't do incremental. However, it does only back up what's in use, that makes for a smaller backup if you are backing up onto a sparse file-aware filesystem, or you can pipe it through a compressor |
| 23:14.56 | citral | !praise ssh |
| 23:15.13 | genix_ | dondelelcaro: I have a big problem then =), "There was a problem running depmod. This may be benign, (You may have versioned symbol names, for instance). Or this could be an error. depmod exited with return value 1 In any case, since depmod is run at install time, we could just defer running depmod Would you like to abort now? [No] |
| 23:15.45 | dafen | and btw, how do you use UDF filesystem on dvd, and how to burn a DVD? |
| 23:15.56 | dafen | apparently xcdroast can't burn dvds |
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| 23:17.14 | xelam | cdrecord :) |
| 23:17.27 | genix_ | dondelelcaro: Do you have a clue how I can solve this, I have use this package before |
| 23:17.28 | dafen | will it read UDF? |
| 23:17.56 | xelam | erm that's to burn the DVD |
| 23:18.07 | dafen | what to format a dvd£¿ |
| 23:18.29 | xelam | to burn a filesystem image to DVD (or CD) |
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| 23:18.49 | dafen | nono, format dvd+rw to udf 1.5 |
| 23:18.58 | dafen | then it'll be read&write like an ordinary harddisk |
| 23:19.02 | xelam | umm |
| 23:19.08 | xelam | no idea |
| 23:19.14 | dafen | I can do it with nero |
| 23:19.30 | kingsley | Which partition will be closer to a disk drive's spindle: hda1 or hda2? |
| 23:19.46 | PerfDave | kingsley: That depends where on the disk hda1 and hda2 are :) |
| 23:19.50 | drac | dafen: Use nero then, Nero for Linux if you have the registered key? |
| 23:19.54 | jazzmans | k3b, choose tools->cd->burncdimage |
| 23:20.02 | Mash_ | good night |
| 23:20.06 | kingsley | PerfDave: Can you elaborate? |
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| 23:20.19 | jazzmans | !google k3b |
| 23:20.24 | PerfDave | kingsley: Not really. Disk partitions can be anywhere on the surface of the disk, you can't say which is closer to the spindle. |
| 23:20.30 | dpkg | Google says k3b is at http://k3b.sourceforge.net/ or http://www.k3b.org/ or http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/16/0026217&threshold=1&tid=185&tid=198&tid=106 or http://dot.kde.org/1111170096/ or http://k3b.sf.net/ |
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| 23:20.59 | priest | !google porn |
| 23:21.05 | dpkg | Google says porn is at http://www.penisbot.com/ or http://www.wowtgp.com/ or http://www.pichunter.com/ or http://www.megapornlinks.com/ or http://www.wetplace.com/ |
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| 23:21.36 | xelam | kingsley: i think hda1 will be closer to the spindle |
| 23:21.47 | kingsley | xelam: Why? |
| 23:21.55 | p8m | kingsley: just open it up and look |
| 23:21.58 | priest | resiak: more than once? :D |
| 23:21.59 | xelam | depends on things such as how many platters |
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| 23:22.23 | xelam | kingsley: because computer discs store from the middle outwards |
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| 23:23.43 | citral | !factinfo google porn |
| 23:23.43 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as google porn, citral |
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| 23:23.58 | citral | how so |
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| 23:24.26 | citral | arf :P |
| 23:24.38 | deepfrze | I can't get Xprint to work properly. It prints very large, yet anything that prints with Kprinter or uses Cups directly prints fine. Any ideas? |
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| 23:25.26 | dafen | nero for linux? you think it's available? |
| 23:25.46 | xelam | yes it is |
| 23:25.57 | genix_ | how do I keep the user rights when I copy data? |
| 23:26.01 | dafen | fully functional as nero for windows? |
| 23:26.02 | resiak | genix_: man cp |
| 23:26.05 | xelam | genix_: -a |
| 23:26.21 | xelam | dafen: http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html |
| 23:26.22 | PitchForkLinux | Hi all. I haveing a very tough time getting debian sarge installed. more specifically getting the harddrives and partitions set up. Anyone want to help |
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| 23:26.33 | PerfDave | PitchForkLinux: What problem are you having? |
| 23:26.40 | xelam | PitchForkLinux: please specify |
| 23:26.54 | PitchForkLinux | I currently have two 300Gig ide drives I want set up in a RAID |
| 23:27.25 | PitchForkLinux | and then install deb. Primary use for the box is a fileserver and PDC |
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| 23:28.52 | PitchForkLinux | I'm using the sarge installer from dvd.... every time I create the raid 0 When it goes to format the partitions, it bombs |
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| 23:30.05 | kingsley | Is a hard disk drive's cylinder number 0 close to its spindle or its outer edge? |
| 23:30.27 | Blissex | kingsley: usually to the outer edge, but it is not guaranteed. |
| 23:30.50 | Blissex | kingsley: modern disk drives are in effect file servers of a single rather big file, so anything could happen. |
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| 23:31.27 | kingsley | Blissex: Interesting. Thanks. |
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| 23:34.24 | dmouritsendk | Hi, I have a question regarding the "test" branch. I understand this branch doesn't feature sequrity updates, but I'm a bit uncertain what that implies. Does it mean that packages doesn't get updated if a bug is found(which would be wierd :p), or does it simply mean that apt wont manage sequrity updates for me? |
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| 23:34.44 | kingsley | Blissex: Do you happen to know if the first partition normally includes lower numbered cylinders? |
| 23:35.26 | bbrazil | dmouritsendk: it just means that security updates take a while to propogate from unstable |
| 23:35.33 | Blissex | kingsley: partition boundaries are totally arbitrary... |
| 23:35.54 | Blissex | kingsley: partition number 1 may be over the last 20 cylinders. |
| 23:36.09 | bbrazil | dmouritsendk: you can always pull packages from unstable(which isn't gaurentteed security updates) to avoid this delay |
| 23:36.27 | dmouritsendk | bbrazil, okay thanks :) |
| 23:36.31 | Blissex | kingsley: however, as a rule, Linux partitioning tools by default assign cylinders to partitions in increasing fashion. MS Windows tools _don't_. |
| 23:36.35 | kingsley | Blissex: Can you suggest where on the web I might read about this? |
| 23:36.47 | Blissex | kingsley: read about _what_? |
| 23:37.31 | kingsley | Blissex: Cylinder and partition numbering conventions. |
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| 23:38.02 | Mike77 | Quick question: how can I kill WDM or XDM ? |
| 23:38.04 | dmouritsendk | bbrazil, I'm going to setup a server, only used only for apache2. Is it possible to install/run the core system from stable, and just grab apache2 from testing/unstable? |
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| 23:38.15 | Blissex | kingsley: there aren't any... |
| 23:38.18 | bbrazil | dmouritsendk: backports.org |
| 23:38.21 | drac | Mike77: /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
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| 23:38.41 | PerfDave | dmouritsendk: It's a bad idea to mix binary packages between branches. Backporting from source is best, see the APT HOWTO. Check http://www.backports.org/ to see if somebody's done the hard work for you. |
| 23:38.52 | kingsley | Blissex: How did you find out that as a rule, Linux partitioning tools by default assign cylinders to partitions in increasing fashion. |
| 23:38.53 | Blissex | kingsley: as I was saying, partition/cylinder mappings are totally arbitrary... |
| 23:39.06 | D3v | i did apt-get upgrade and it reconfigured everything, and i think it did something to my net! how can i fix this ? |
| 23:39.13 | Mike77 | Thanks drac! Spent hours on google trying to find that. |
| 23:39.13 | Blissex | kingsley: because I have used all of them and most just do the ''obvious thing''. |
| 23:39.35 | dmouritsendk | bbrazil + PerfDave , thanks a lot for the tips :) |
| 23:40.32 | Blissex | kingsley: as to me, I have _my own_ conventions, that I use on all GNU/Linux systems I use just for the sake of remebering what is what. |
| 23:43.08 | D3v | what folder do i config to auto set up dhcp on boot up?? |
| 23:43.10 | D3v | ? |
| 23:43.20 | pipeline | D3v: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:43.23 | pipeline | D3v: There's a man page |
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| 23:44.26 | Ferret | D3v: You're asking distribution-dependent questions in channels for different distributions. Perhaps you should ask in a channel geared towards the one you're actually running? |
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| 23:45.16 | D3v | im usung debian |
| 23:45.27 | D3v | using^ |
| 23:45.29 | tuxillo | D3v: holy shit |
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| 23:45.44 | Ferret | Then why on earth did you ask this question first in #Gentoo? |
| 23:45.47 | Ferret | Typo? |
| 23:46.15 | Ferret | The G and the D are quite close to each other, I guess it goes from there. |
| 23:46.36 | D3v | oh yeah |
| 23:47.05 | brake | tr could not read the pipe input?? |
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| 23:47.29 | no0nek | Hello. |
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| 23:48.22 | brook | brake oh |
| 23:48.33 | brook | brake:oh |
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| 23:49.19 | tuxillo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.20 | foreyez | hello.. in apache, the only website i can put in my home directory is /public_html ... or can i use a different name? |
| 23:49.29 | tuxillo | hehe, not bad with typespeed ;-) |
| 23:49.42 | brake | foreyez,can use a different name |
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| 23:49.58 | brake | tr could not read the pipe input?? |
| 23:50.28 | foreyez | brake, w/o changing settings in apache... i.e., just make the files in a different dir world readable? |
| 23:50.46 | brake | foreyez,can use a different name,but need edit the file /etc/http/conf/httpd.conf |
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| 23:51.31 | brake | searce DocumenRoot and edit the dir |
| 23:51.33 | foreyez | brake, what if i don't have access to this file.. ie., i'm doin this in my school. not possible? |
| 23:51.50 | zamolxes | brake, you could use backticks with tr |
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| 23:52.25 | brake | foreyez,call the administrator |
| 23:52.37 | brake | zamolxes:why? |
| 23:53.08 | brake | zamolxes what is mean backticks? |
| 23:53.32 | foreyez | brake, ah yah |
| 23:54.14 | foreyez | <anyone>... /public_html can only be used for www, or any directory with world readable can be used? |
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| 23:54.41 | kikov | hola |
| 23:54.45 | resiak | brake: ` |
| 23:54.54 | PerfDave | foreyez: ~/public_html is used for user directories, /var/www/ is the default for server-wide content. |
| 23:55.00 | zamolxes | brake, nevermind, sorry |
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| 23:55.14 | brake | resiak:??? |
| 23:55.19 | foreyez | perfdave, in other words NO other directory can be used inside user dir for www purposes? |
| 23:55.21 | resiak | brake: Backtick. |
| 23:55.37 | resiak | foreyez: You can configure your webserver to use anything. |
| 23:55.54 | foreyez | resiak, but if i have no access to webserver then no? |
| 23:55.58 | brake | resiak:what is mean backtick? |
| 23:56.13 | resiak | brake: ` is a backtick. Just so you know. |
| 23:56.24 | resiak | foreyez: ...if you can't reconfigure apache, then no, you can't. |
| 23:56.30 | foreyez | hmm.. k tnx |
| 23:56.56 | PerfDave | foreyez: Uhm, what do you mean? ~/public_html/ will work by default. |
| 23:57.18 | foreyez | perfdave, yah... but i just want it in another dir... like... /mypublic_html .... but erm |
| 23:57.36 | PerfDave | foreyez: Any particular reason? |
| 23:57.54 | brake | resiak:my first language is not english and so i do not know what mean backtick! |
| 23:57.57 | PerfDave | foreyez: If you don't have root, how can you make /mypublic_html ? |
| 23:58.02 | resiak | brake: Now you do. |
| 23:58.03 | foreyez | perfdave, crappy specifications on assignment for school for some unknown reason |
| 23:58.03 | bbrazil | foreyez: for the userdir at least you can use a symlink |
| 23:58.08 | Azar | as a subdirectory? |
| 23:58.28 | brake | resiak:do what? |
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| 23:58.35 | foreyez | bbrazil, oh yah? |
| 23:58.39 | resiak | brake: This character ` is called a backtick. |
| 23:58.42 | PerfDave | Azar: But /public_html is a subdirectory of / and only root can create those |
| 23:58.47 | robin_sz | ok, I installed debian, now .. where do I get the "start" button and "My Documents" ?? |
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| 23:58.59 | Azar | PerfDave, oh, thanks for the heads up |
| 23:59.06 | bbrazil | foreyez: it might break stuff though (i.e. suexec) |
| 23:59.08 | brake | resiak oh i see!! thanks!!! |
| 23:59.10 | chealer | robin_sz: what debian release did you install? |
| 23:59.12 | resiak | brake: No problem. |
| 23:59.28 | resiak | PerfDave: Are you not immune yet? |
| 23:59.30 | foreyez | :| i'll ask teacher... but tnx gusy |
| 23:59.35 | foreyez | guys i mean |
| 23:59.37 | robin_sz | PerfDave: dude! |
