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| 00:00.21 | dondelelcaro | clojster: it's an environmental variable. You set it. |
| 00:00.25 | Azar | green_earz this is the official debian apt-get HOWTO, bookmark: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html#contents |
| 00:00.37 | clojster | dondelelcaro: but how? plssss |
| 00:00.45 | EvilSporkMan | can i get away with grabbing the nvidia-glx package from packages.debian.org and installing with dpkg instead of adding unstable in my sources.list? |
| 00:00.51 | Azar | green_earz even though that apt-get primer is easier on beginners to understand |
| 00:00.51 | deadcat | export |
| 00:01.02 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: yeah, all Debian stuff uses /usr/bin/sensible-browser |
| 00:01.08 | directhex | EvilSporkMan, if you get nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-settings too, then yes |
| 00:01.10 | Guerin | oh, right |
| 00:01.11 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: that obeys BROWSER if it's set |
| 00:01.19 | void | that bites i jusyt did a net-install (505meg) now i got todo a dist-upgrade (260meg) more.. |
| 00:01.30 | kingsley | My eyes are glazing over from reading smartmontools' documentation. What's an easy way to have smartd monitor a hard drive and if it detects errors, send an email to root? |
| 00:01.34 | Guerin | clojster: export BROWSER=/path/to/opera |
| 00:01.35 | dondelelcaro | clojster: BROWSER="/usr/bin/links" maya; or setenv BROWSER="/usr/bin/links" or whatever makes |
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| 00:02.16 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: sensible-browser is basically the default in /etc/alternatives right? |
| 00:02.37 | clojster | and what is that "sensible-browser"? |
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| 00:03.17 | clojster | bash: setenv: command not found |
| 00:03.17 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: it's slightly more complex. It first checks BROWSER, then checks to see if you've got DISPLAY set and uses x-www-browser, if that fails, uses x-terminal-emulator www-browser;, if that fails, uses www-browser. |
| 00:03.25 | dondelelcaro | clojster: if you're using bash it's export. |
| 00:03.30 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: see /usr/bin/sensible-browser |
| 00:03.46 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: mine points to IE :) |
| 00:03.48 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: wow |
| 00:03.53 | Azar | haha |
| 00:04.04 | abrotman | at least it doesn't point to that crap Mosaic |
| 00:04.09 | green_earz | Azar: i have just been reading that apt howto about dist-upgrade and upgrade, but the first link as a good over veiw of apt-geting and the reason for apt-get and to maniage dependencies |
| 00:04.12 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: basically, it tries really hard to do the right thing |
| 00:04.18 | void | !nickometer dvoid |
| 00:04.18 | dpkg | 'dvoid' is 0.000% lame, void |
| 00:04.22 | void | hoot |
| 00:04.33 | directhex | msie works great in sarge's current wine |
| 00:04.57 | directhex | though java doesn't work, i tried :( |
| 00:05.16 | directhex | to test the html i write? |
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| 00:05.27 | void | fair enough |
| 00:05.31 | directhex | gotta do regression testing for non-html-capable browsers |
| 00:05.38 | deadcat | directhex: you write virus/worms? (= |
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| 00:05.44 | Azar | dondelecaro because me for example I would not use firefox in a mswin environment |
| 00:06.05 | void | y not? |
| 00:06.06 | mwilson | rei $ echo $BROWSER |
| 00:06.07 | mwilson | links -g:lynx:links |
| 00:06.09 | dondelelcaro | Azar: why not? and regardless, that's still not willingingly |
| 00:06.16 | directhex | Azar, why not? using msie in a windows environment is to invite spyware & virii |
| 00:06.17 | Guerin | Azar: because you're stupid? |
| 00:06.26 | Azar | dondelecaro because I might not be as handy to chop up firefox the way I chopped IE |
| 00:06.27 | void | the only time i use IE is to update my OS.. |
| 00:06.32 | deadcat | mwilson: whats the : for? |
| 00:06.41 | dondelelcaro | Azar: "chop up"? |
| 00:06.43 | void | and thats becuase you HAVE to use IE for that |
| 00:06.46 | Azar | word: Chopping up IE |
| 00:06.48 | Azar | yes |
| 00:06.49 | batard | would any of you think woody with xfce is a good choice for a web browsing/email box on older hardware? |
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| 00:06.58 | Azar | cut/disable most of its features |
| 00:07.00 | clojster | so BROWSER didn't do the trick... I fxck that |
| 00:07.10 | directhex | batard, i'd say sarge really |
| 00:07.11 | abrotman | who's ready for baseball? :) |
| 00:07.20 | Azar | translation: craft IE to behave like lynx |
| 00:07.23 | dondelelcaro | Azar: uh, you can quite easily disable most of the features in firefox... clearly you haven't seen about:config |
| 00:07.28 | deadcat | abrotman: after 2002, baseball sucks. (= |
| 00:07.29 | mwilson | deadcat: man 7 environ and read the description of BROWSER |
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| 00:07.39 | batard | directhex hrm...I only have sarge on DVD, and this box only has a CDROM |
| 00:07.40 | abrotman | deadcat: you're a yankee fan? |
| 00:07.49 | dondelelcaro | Azar: but regardless, that's rather madly OT anyway. |
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| 00:07.54 | deadcat | abrotman: that was the giants aint it? |
| 00:08.00 | batard | directhex: is ubuntu sarge-based? |
| 00:08.01 | deadcat | abrotman: gaints vs damn angels |
| 00:08.04 | Azar | dondelecaro I would not use for example any active scripting, any activeX any javascript and any picture on the web enabled |
| 00:08.05 | abrotman | deadcat: oh :) |
| 00:08.14 | Guerin | batard: no, it's sid-based |
| 00:08.20 | directhex | batard, more sid based than anything else. time-based rather than bug-bvased releases |
| 00:08.23 | deadcat | abrotman: stupid gaints gave up game 6.. |
| 00:08.25 | Azar | if I can make firefox just a text reader, then I would use it |
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| 00:08.37 | batard | uh huh |
| 00:08.50 | MikeH | hi guys, i've got debian pure-64 installed, just wondering, is there a flash plugin available anywhere for 64bit? |
| 00:09.02 | Guerin | MikeH: ask marcomedia |
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| 00:09.07 | void | +O |
| 00:09.08 | Guerin | s/rc/cr/ |
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| 00:10.52 | Guerin | i need a box I can mash into place as an X terminal |
| 00:11.08 | Guerin | but I bet I'll have to buy one, goddamnit |
| 00:11.08 | abrotman | mash? |
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| 00:11.13 | abrotman | !mash Guerin |
| 00:11.29 | Guerin | abrotman: mmmashitopanderekkid |
| 00:11.54 | EvilSporkMan | i am following the nvidia how-to but when i try to install nvidia-glx, it complains that nvidia-kernel-1.0.7174 is not installable. I have already installed nvidia-kernel-common and the appropriate nvidia-kernel-foo package for my kernel. |
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| 00:12.16 | cafuego | MikeH: No. You will need a 32bit chroot with a web browser and plugin. |
| 00:12.19 | patad | it says that the following packages have been kept back:xprt |
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| 00:12.40 | Guerin | patad: if you read man apt-get, you might know why they were kept back |
| 00:12.43 | cafuego | MikeH: goes for java too |
| 00:13.13 | Azar | patad, sorry to tell you but if you hate reading , you will never be able to handle linux |
| 00:13.22 | patad | i know why now! |
| 00:13.40 | MikeH | is there no other way around it cafuego ? :| |
| 00:13.42 | patad | and its complicated lol |
| 00:13.45 | cafuego | MikeH: No. |
| 00:13.58 | MikeH | wish id known that before :( |
| 00:14.16 | cafuego | MikeH: Doesn't matter, you'll need a chroot for mplayer and openoffice.org anyway. An it's DEAD EASY to set up. |
| 00:14.19 | patad | grrr everytime i run dancer-ircd it says different zlib version |
| 00:14.35 | MikeH | cafuego, DEAD EASY? there any tutorials? |
| 00:14.45 | cafuego | MikeH: Yes, there are. |
| 00:14.45 | EvilSporkMan | i think the problem is that nvidia-glx depends on nvidia-kernel1.0.7174 but the current version seems to be 1.0.7174+1 |
| 00:14.55 | Mike77_linux | Is alsa compatible with ISA sound cards? |
| 00:15.21 | deadcat | is it links -g or links2 -g? |
| 00:15.24 | cafuego | MikeH: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id274293 |
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| 00:16.29 | patad | does anyone know why i have the wrong zlib version |
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| 00:17.21 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: yes |
| 00:17.24 | chealer | EvilSporkMan: which package is at 1.0.7174+1? |
| 00:17.53 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: they are Not Fun to set up, though, and you're better off going and putting $10 on a real soundcard |
| 00:18.07 | EvilSporkMan | chealer: nvidia-kernel, i believe |
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| 00:18.50 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: Ok. I was assuming that once I installed alsa, the config was done automatically. In the case of a PCI, do I have to configure the card manually too? |
| 00:18.56 | Azar | Mike77_linuux: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=AlsaOpensrcOrg |
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| 00:19.06 | MikeH | cafuego, whats the apt-get install ia32-libs about then? its calls it the quick way? but surely it cant be just as simple as installing that? |
| 00:19.23 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: no, pci cards are usually done automatically. isa cards you need to specify the resources yourself, isapnp cards work unreliably. |
| 00:19.27 | cafuego | MikeH: No, use the slow way. |
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| 00:19.43 | patad | what package is zlib called? |
| 00:19.44 | MikeH | cafuego, any particular reason? :o |
| 00:20.05 | MikeH | patad, zlib supprisingly :) |
| 00:20.19 | patad | MikeH, cant find that package |
| 00:20.35 | MikeH | need to add some more sources then i think |
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| 00:20.45 | MikeH | well, its zlib under pure64 sid |
| 00:20.54 | MikeH | oops |
| 00:20.55 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: just a curiosity, my sound card (ISA soundblaster) is working now with xmms, gaim and other progs that use sound. If it is not using alsa, what the heck is it using? |
| 00:21.04 | MikeH | nope, wrong terminal patad, 2 secs :P |
| 00:21.20 | patad | okies |
| 00:21.25 | cafuego | MikeH: I know for a fact it works with *all* my 32bit apps :-) |
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| 00:21.47 | MikeH | patad, zlibc maybe? |
| 00:22.08 | patad | MikeH, just fetched it |
| 00:22.14 | MikeH | zlib1g - compression library - runtime |
| 00:22.14 | MikeH | zlib1g-dev - compression library - development |
| 00:22.16 | MikeH | might be of use too |
| 00:22.58 | patad | got both of them |
| 00:23.02 | patad | still doesnt work :( |
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| 00:24.19 | directhex | Mike77_linux, oss? |
| 00:24.29 | directhex | Mike77_linux, you definitely have oss on a 2.4 kernel |
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| 00:25.23 | bitsmash | hi |
| 00:25.28 | bitsmash | whats the best wysiwyg/code web page design software? |
| 00:25.29 | Mike77_linux | directhex: is there any problem running oss and alsa together? is this a stupid question? |
| 00:25.38 | bitsmash | for debian |
| 00:25.48 | directhex | Mike77_linux, they cannot work together, but alsa has oss compatability modules |
| 00:26.00 | prodope | trying to extract linux-2.6.11.6.tar.bz2 on woody, and i get this error: tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers |
| 00:26.21 | helix | I want effervescent base-64 headers |
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| 00:26.31 | j_n | hah |
| 00:26.49 | Mike77_linux | directhex: what should I do to upgrade to alsa? remove oss, install alsa, keep 2.4 OR ditch 2.4, install 2.6 and use alsa? |
| 00:26.53 | prodope | any ideas why that's happening? |
| 00:27.23 | mwilson | Mike77_linux: Is there some reason you need to use ALSA? |
| 00:27.40 | directhex | Mike77_linux, you can stay on 2.4 and compile alsa modules, or sidewaysgrade to 2.6. or just stick with oss |
| 00:27.47 | bob2 | prodope: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/23/2005/01/1/85911 |
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| 00:28.06 | HeavyD | Hey guys, i'm having a serious problem with KDE... could somebody help me? |
| 00:28.16 | abrotman | just ask |
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| 00:29.01 | Mike77_linux | mwilson: directhex: I wanted alsa to get volume control (amixer). |
| 00:29.15 | directhex | aumix? |
| 00:29.43 | mihaly | there is a tool thats standard in the slackware installation that allows you to copy/paste text with the mouse in console mode... what is that tool called? |
| 00:29.43 | HeavyD | ok.. well I can boot into X no problem... but when I try and log on.... it gives me the message "There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list. "/root/.DCOPserver_blue-phantom__0". Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running. |
| 00:29.45 | mwilson | Mike77_linux: Your sound card is an original 8-bit Soundblaster? |
| 00:30.00 | Mike77_linux | mwilson: it is a 16bit |
| 00:30.06 | bob2 | mihaly: gpm |
| 00:30.14 | HeavyD | and then after that it kicks me back out to the logon screen and I can't get into KDE. I had to use WindowMaker to get on. |
| 00:30.15 | Azar | prodope maybe you are not getting the 64version for your linux? |
| 00:30.16 | Mike77_linux | directhex: aumix works with oss too? |
| 00:30.17 | bob2 | HeavyD: don't login as root |
| 00:30.25 | mwilson | Mike77_linux: Then where did you get the idea that you had to have ALSA in order to have volume control? |
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| 00:30.35 | bob2 | Azar: the kernel source is not arch-denepdant |
| 00:30.36 | Mike77_linux | mwilson: here |
| 00:30.44 | HeavyD | bob2: So if I log on as root.. what will happen after that? |
| 00:30.50 | prodope | Azar: 64version? |
| 00:30.59 | HeavyD | bob2: sorry .. don't log on as root.. then what will happen |
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| 00:31.07 | bob2 | HeavyD: you are logging in as root, don't do that |
| 00:31.23 | HeavyD | bob2: why not... I understand the risks.. is there a problem with doign that otherwise? |
| 00:31.25 | gary | Does anyone here know how to use transcode but provide it with two input files so that it joins them together? |
| 00:31.35 | bob2 | HeavyD: aside from being stupid? |
| 00:31.44 | HeavyD | bob2: thanks. |
| 00:31.47 | bob2 | HeavyD: #debian-kde might know/care why kde doesn't work as root |
| 00:31.50 | prodope | HeavyD: you a centennial student? |
| 00:31.53 | mwilson | gary: When did transcode gain that ability? |
| 00:32.07 | gary | well, if it doesn't have that ability what applications do? |
| 00:32.11 | Azar | bob2, when getting a kernel from kernel.org they list them with/without 64 ? |
| 00:32.19 | HeavyD | bob2: do you think it will work on a non-root user? |
| 00:32.29 | bob2 | HeavyD: you didn't even try? |
| 00:32.34 | bob2 | HeavyD: that should be the first thing you try |
| 00:32.37 | bob2 | Azar: no |
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| 00:33.08 | HeavyD | bob2: ok.. brb.. i'll try. |
| 00:33.08 | genix | What is the differens between ";" and "&&"? |
| 00:33.21 | Azar | bob2, my bad you are right |
| 00:33.28 | omnistegan | what is the xf86 reconfigure command? |
| 00:33.43 | genix | omnistegan: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" |
| 00:33.45 | mihaly | my swap-partition isn't set during boot so I had to run swapon every time I booted the computer but then did a dirty solution I put the swapon line in /etc/profile whats a better file to put it in? |
| 00:33.49 | bob2 | genix: "foo ; bar" means "run bar after foo", "foo && bar" means "only run bar if foo exited with no error" |
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| 00:33.54 | omnistegan | thanks genix |
| 00:33.58 | MikeH | can someone link me to a sources.list for sid ia32? |
| 00:34.02 | MikeH | please :) |
| 00:34.02 | bob2 | mihaly: /etc/fstab |
| 00:34.06 | bob2 | MikeH: no, you don't need one |
| 00:34.13 | MikeH | i do :| |
| 00:34.17 | bob2 | MikeH: if you broke yours, and didn't keep a backup, use apt-setup |
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| 00:34.30 | genix | bob2: ah |
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| 00:34.32 | mihaly | can I just write "swapon /dev/hda6" i fstab? |
| 00:34.36 | MikeH | i didnt break anything, i just debootstrapped a chroot bob2 |
| 00:34.37 | Arafangion | What's a good howto for quick&dirty backporting? |
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| 00:34.48 | bob2 | MikeH: copy it from your outside system then |
| 00:34.57 | cafuego | bob2: Don't forget foo || bar |
| 00:34.59 | bob2 | Arafangion: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 00:35.05 | Arafangion | Thanks. |
| 00:35.15 | bob2 | mihaly: /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 00:35.20 | bob2 | mihaly: that's from my /etc/fstab |
| 00:35.28 | MikeH | bob2, if i could do that i would, but im using pure64 |
| 00:35.29 | cafuego | bob2: He needs one, he wants a 32bit chroot on and64 :-) |
| 00:35.36 | MikeH | nvm |
| 00:35.46 | cafuego | MikeH: You should be able to run 'apt-setup' in the chroot. |
| 00:35.56 | directhex | cafuego is correct |
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| 00:36.03 | cafuego | !right |
| 00:36.03 | dpkg | right, (adj): 1) The opposite of left. 2) What cafuego says. |
| 00:36.10 | bob2 | MikeH: apt-setup will still generate it |
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| 00:36.24 | MikeH | bob2, now you could have just said that in hte first place :) |
| 00:36.26 | js_ | is there a key sequence i can press to get a lilo menu if i forgot "prompt" in lilo.conf? |
| 00:36.31 | Arafangion | bob2, This will be used so that someone can use sid's zlib in sarge. |
| 00:36.35 | MikeH | rather than "you dont need one" |
| 00:36.44 | bob2 | Arafangion: er, why would you do that? |
| 00:36.52 | cafuego | MikeH: bob2 was assuming you had magically deleted it (amd64 users are a minority) |
| 00:36.53 | bob2 | Arafangion: zlib's ABI has been stable since like 1947 |
| 00:37.06 | Arafangion | bob2, Apparently the one in sarge is "old", and #hyperion wants a new one. |
| 00:37.10 | bob2 | MikeH: the second thing I said ended with "...apt-setup" |
| 00:37.16 | bob2 | Arafangion: er |
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| 00:37.27 | mihaly | If I want something to only be run for user root in the /etc/profile how do i do that? |
| 00:37.32 | bob2 | Arafangion: no, that means you need to rebuild "hyperion" on sarge, no zlib |
| 00:37.35 | js_ | i mean when booting up, to get the lilo menu |
| 00:37.40 | cafuego | bob2: LIAR. Back in '47 there used to be HUGE problems with zlib if even a *spare* bulb blew. |
| 00:37.48 | bob2 | mihaly: you don't, you shouldn't be running anything from there |
| 00:37.51 | bob2 | cafuego: haha |
| 00:37.57 | cafuego | bob2: It's muich more forgiving these days |
| 00:38.02 | bob2 | mihaly: perhaps you mean /root/.bash_profile |
| 00:38.03 | Arafangion | bob2, rebuild? |
| 00:38.13 | Arafangion | bob2, This dude can't *get* it to build in the first place. |
| 00:38.20 | MikeH | cafuego, |
| 00:38.21 | mihaly | I didn't know of that file |
| 00:38.24 | MikeH | theres a bit i dont quite understand |
| 00:38.28 | MikeH | You also need a link to your 32bit linker in the /lib path. Change in to directory /lib and create a link to the 32bit linker library of your chroot: (The name of the 64bit linker is ld-linux-x86-64.so.2) |
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| 00:38.31 | bob2 | Arafangion: I have no ide what you're trying to do, but any plan the involves rebuilding zlib is doomed |
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| 00:38.40 | Arafangion | bob2, How's that? |
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| 00:38.50 | bob2 | Arafangion: back up. what are you trying to do? |
| 00:38.56 | bob2 | Arafangion: build some random thing on sarge? |
| 00:39.01 | bob2 | !+info zlib0g |
| 00:39.03 | dpkg | Package 'zlib0g' does not exist. |
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| 00:39.22 | bob2 | !+info zlib1g |
| 00:39.25 | bob2 | !+info zlib1g sarge |
| 00:39.26 | Arafangion | bob2, A dude in #hyperion wishes to compile hyperion, which is a fork of dancer. |
| 00:39.31 | dpkg | zlib1g: (compression library - runtime), section libs, is required. Version: 1:1.2.2-4 (sid), Packaged size: 61 kB, Installed size: 152 kB |
| 00:39.33 | dpkg | zlib1g: (compression library - runtime), section libs, is required. Version: 1:1.2.2-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 61 kB, Installed size: 152 kB |
| 00:39.46 | r0xbox | hey guys, ive got a sorta issue |
| 00:39.49 | cafuego | MikeH: Yes, go to /lib (outside the chroot) and create a symlink to $CHROOT/lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
| 00:39.55 | mihaly | I only had .bashrc and .bash_history in my /root |
| 00:39.58 | bob2 | Arafangion: does he/she have zlib1g-dev installed? |
| 00:40.01 | bob2 | mihaly: then create it |
| 00:40.11 | bob2 | mihaly: or, better still, explain to us what you're trying to do |
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| 00:40.49 | Arafangion | bob2, Wait, it seems that all of a sudden he's no longer interested in compiling hyperion, just wishes to run dancer-ircd. |
| 00:41.01 | patad | bob2, that is correct :D |
| 00:41.11 | mihaly | I'm not doing anything right now only wanted to know in general how to run stuff only for one specific user in these scripts |
| 00:41.12 | bob2 | Arafangion: dancer's *in* Debian |
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| 00:41.18 | r0xbox | whenever i type "startx" i get "/usr/x11r6/lib/x11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/x11/x: no such file or directory" then "xinit: no such file or directory (errno 2) unable to connect to X server" |
| 00:41.18 | Arafangion | bob2, Exactly. |
| 00:41.21 | bob2 | mihaly: then you use their own scripts |
| 00:41.22 | r0xbox | this is a fresh install |
| 00:41.30 | bob2 | r0xbox: install x-window-system |
| 00:41.33 | cafuego | Arafangion: is he the same one whow as complaining about dancer/zlib in here earlier? |
| 00:41.33 | r0xbox | ok |
| 00:41.36 | patad | bob2, when ever i run dancer-ircd, it says warning: different zlib version |
| 00:41.44 | patad | bob2, yep thats me! |
| 00:41.59 | cafuego | patad: Warnings can be ignored. |
| 00:42.08 | cafuego | patad: Errors you worry about. Warnings you don't. |
| 00:42.15 | patad | hmmm |
| 00:42.23 | Arafangion | patad, zlib is just a red herring. |
| 00:42.33 | mihaly | where am I suppose to add commands that fire up my wlan? |
| 00:42.36 | Arafangion | patad, IN your case, afaik, zlib's only used for server-server communication. |
| 00:42.36 | patad | but it aint starting |
| 00:42.45 | cafuego | MikeH: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:42.54 | patad | Arafangion, and i dont need server - server communication |
| 00:43.04 | Arafangion | patad, Exactly... |
| 00:43.12 | cafuego | patad: it has another problem then, WARNINGS don't prevent software from running. |
| 00:43.24 | patad | cafuego, that makes sense |
| 00:44.01 | Arafangion | patad, Try connecting to localhost:6667 with your client. |
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| 00:44.25 | patad | Arafangion, talk ing #hyperion |
| 00:44.29 | patad | tak in* |
| 00:44.34 | Arafangion | Ok. |
| 00:44.34 | patad | talk in* lmao |
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| 00:45.40 | mihaly | wow, I just got impressed by linux... I accedentaly reconnected my wlan and the connection to this irc server/channel wasn't lost |
| 00:45.44 | r0xbox | crap it says that my monitor is out of range |
| 00:45.49 | r0xbox | and i cant mess with anything |
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| 00:46.40 | mihaly | that can probebly be used by some one for an exploit |
| 00:47.07 | r0xbox | eh? |
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| 00:47.37 | poonj | hey guys.. |
| 00:47.45 | poonj | is there such thing as a modprobe.conf in debian? |
| 00:47.54 | MobyTurbo | mihaly: well, if you're using WEP you are wide open anyway. |
| 00:48.05 | poonj | meaning, would it read the file if I created one? there isn't one now. |
| 00:48.28 | cafuego | poonj: No, you edit files in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 00:48.47 | r0xbox | anyone kno how i can switch it back? |
| 00:48.56 | poonj | cafuego: so I can insert a file into the directory and it'd read it automatically? |
| 00:48.56 | mihaly | I haven't been able to get my wpa working yet so sably I am :( |
| 00:49.00 | r0xbox | shit forget it |
| 00:49.04 | r0xbox | ill just reinstall |
| 00:49.07 | FieldySnuts | @lart r0xbox |
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| 00:49.42 | MobyTurbo | r0xbox: reinstalling won't fix anything. |
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| 00:49.53 | r0xbox | i kno but i wana redo the partition anyway |
| 00:50.21 | MobyTurbo | r0xbox: use parted to redo the partition |
| 00:50.25 | omnistegan_ | hey guys, whenever I install something with apt-get it gives this error: http://pastebin.com/266736 any suggestions? |
| 00:50.34 | r0xbox | i dont have any display |
| 00:50.37 | r0xbox | im in darkness |
| 00:50.45 | directhex | omnistegan, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 00:50.47 | r0xbox | it wont even let me do anything because the monitor is out of range |
| 00:51.02 | PitchForkLinux | Hi all. I'm looking for a decent deb source that has firefox and thunderbird. Also looking for a source that has libdvdcss or cryto pakages. any help here |
| 00:51.15 | MobyTurbo | r0xbox: even in text mode?! |
| 00:51.36 | chealer | !tell PitchForkLinux about marillat |
| 00:52.00 | directhex | PitchForkLinux, erm... debian has firefox & thunderbird, as long as you're not an idiot running woody on a desktop |
| 00:52.27 | chealer | PitchForkLinux: that was for libdvdcss |
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| 00:52.38 | omnistegan_ | directhex, how do i know which ones to choose? |
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| 00:52.46 | void | whats MTA? its the only thing that doesnt fly by when i boot |
| 00:53.03 | PitchForkLinux | hey guys. I have deb sarge... with dep sources . tried to get firefox and thunderbird but apt-get reports a no go |
| 00:53.05 | directhex | omnistegan, just pick the ones that seem relevant to you, e.g. i have the three en_GB ones |
| 00:53.07 | r0xbox | is there a similar thing like virtual pc only for linux that i can throw 2k on? |
| 00:53.11 | Arafangion | void, Mail Transfer Agent. |
| 00:53.16 | directhex | PitchForkLinux, apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
| 00:53.19 | Ronin | PitchForkLinux: you trying mozilla-fireox |
| 00:53.22 | mihaly | Is it posible to get the text in consolemode to go from "Bottom -> Top" instead of from "Top -> bottom" ? |
| 00:53.23 | void | ahh thx |
| 00:53.24 | Ronin | damn fingers |
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| 00:53.42 | PitchForkLinux | ok.. I'll try that. how about libdvdcss? |
| 00:53.43 | MobyTurbo | PitchForkLinux: "apt-cache search" for them |
| 00:53.53 | omnistegan_ | PitchForkLinux, make sure you run: apt-cache search packagename before so you know the correct package name |
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| 00:54.23 | directhex | PitchForkLinux, read the marillat factoid & obey. the libdvdcss2 package is within. if you're american, prepare for an FBI raid soon. |
| 00:54.26 | brennan2374 | quick question! How do you enable via support in Debian for your DVD drives? |
| 00:54.39 | PitchForkLinux | ok cool. still looking for a decrypt source |
| 00:54.44 | directhex | brennan2374, what does that mean? |
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| 00:54.58 | CharlesBrown | directhex, I think that means he wants to use his dvdrom drive for something |
| 00:55.00 | MobyTurbo | brennan2374: we're talking about that now. /msg dpkg marillat |
| 00:55.03 | CharlesBrown | but he can't figure out how |
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| 00:55.23 | brennan2374 | ./msg dpkg marillat |
| 00:55.32 | brennan2374 | sorry about that |
| 00:55.41 | MobyTurbo | @loose brennan2374 |
| 00:55.48 | MobyTurbo | er, lose |
| 00:55.53 | MobyTurbo | ;-) |
| 00:56.42 | nSe | when i click on the Play button to play .mp3 files in my xmms it stop working, no sound, no motion, nothing. and i have do to kill the process. i don't get any error msg in order to fix the problem, what i should do? |
| 00:57.25 | MobyTurbo | nSe: are you in /dev/dsp's group? |
| 00:58.04 | nSe | MobyTurbo: can't answer this: i don't know. how can i know? |
| 00:58.15 | MobyTurbo | nSe: ls -l /dev/dsp |
| 00:58.18 | bob2 | the problem is that something else has /dev/dsp open |
| 00:58.23 | bob2 | probably esd |
| 00:58.29 | FieldySnuts | lsof | grep dsp |
| 00:59.04 | moustic | groups to see in which groups you are |
| 00:59.37 | nSe | MobyTurbo: that's the answer: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2005-02-26 06:39 /dev/dsp |
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| 01:00.35 | cafuego | nSe: Don't click the play button. |
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| 01:01.14 | nSe | cafuego: thank you |
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| 01:01.17 | SexyKen | How do you restart a service in debian? |
| 01:01.25 | directhex | /etc/init.d/foo restart |
| 01:01.35 | Servo888 | How would I go about extracting the file in a .deb package? |
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| 01:02.06 | mrhemlock | !beer carfuego |
| 01:02.32 | mrhemlock | !beer cafuego |
| 01:03.10 | HeavyD | Does sarge debian support mounting of NTFS partitions? I know Fedora/Redhat don't because of certain legality issues. |
| 01:03.46 | MikeH | is there a font package for windows fonts? (such as verdana etc.) |
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| 01:03.51 | brennan2374 | OK, I have checked out marillat and the /msg dpkg guidelines....I'm still not sure how to enable via support on DVD drives. I googled the heck out of it and still now luck. |
| 01:04.00 | drini | msttcorefonts ? |
| 01:04.06 | chealer | !tell HeavyD about ntfs ro |
| 01:04.09 | nSe | moustic: those are my groups: leo dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev - i must be in something else? |
| 01:04.13 | brennan2374 | As another FYI...i am trying to use hdparm |
| 01:04.25 | chealer | !tell HeavyD about ro-ntfs |
| 01:04.37 | MikeH | drini, think thats it, do i just apt-get it and thats it? |
| 01:04.42 | drini | yes |
| 01:05.50 | MikeH | drini, restart x |
| 01:05.51 | MikeH | ? |
| 01:05.56 | green_earz | nSe: have you had any sound on the box ? |
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| 01:06.52 | green_earz | nSe: or is it just xmms ? |
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| 01:07.14 | cafuego | nSe: Are you able to play WAV files via 'play' ? |
| 01:07.39 | moustic | nSe: groups are ok |
| 01:08.11 | cafuego | nSe: or even /dev/urandom via 'cat'? |
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| 01:08.51 | flux | hello |
| 01:09.21 | EvanCarroll | Just to confirm the i386 iso is backwards compatable with all intel and amd platforms? i686 k7 and amd64 right? |
| 01:09.30 | green_earz | nSe:: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp but turn you amp down |
| 01:09.33 | Shaik | Hey... er. For all intensive purposes I'm a linux newbie, and I'm having a tough time with an install of 3.0rc1 on a Power PC. Can anyone give me a hand? |
| 01:09.49 | cafuego | EvanCarroll: Yes. |
| 01:10.06 | flux | Shaik: maybe you should go on #debianppc |
| 01:10.07 | cafuego | EvanCarroll: On amd64 you can ALSO run the amd64 system, though. |
| 01:10.24 | Shaik | Oh, I didn't know they had one, thank you very much. |
| 01:10.26 | cafuego | Shaik: What powerpc? |
| 01:10.27 | EvanCarroll | is amd64 also ia64? or is that different? |
| 01:10.34 | Shaik | It's a 1998 imac. |
| 01:10.38 | cafuego | EvanCarroll: no, no. there's ana ctual amd64 architecture. |
| 01:10.39 | Shaik | Rev B, I believe. |
| 01:10.53 | cafuego | Shaik: Cool. Step one is to discard that CD. |
| 01:10.58 | EvanCarroll | cafuego: thanks. just reviewing |
| 01:11.09 | flux | cafuego: why ? |
| 01:11.10 | Shaik | urf... |
| 01:11.12 | cafuego | Shaik: Step two is to fetch a new debian-installer ISO and burn that to a new CD. |
| 01:11.30 | cafuego | Shaik: Believe me, 3.0 is too crusty |
| 01:11.36 | flux | cafuego: yes :) ok :) sarge, not woody... |
| 01:11.41 | Shaik | Cafuego: Ok, which one? |
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| 01:11.50 | cafuego | Shaik: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/powerpc/rc3/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso |
| 01:12.03 | rootshell | helo |
| 01:12.07 | Shaik | Unfortunately, I can't do a net install on this. |
| 01:12.08 | cafuego | Shaik: That one will boot (hold down C) and follow the dialogs - done :-) |
| 01:12.26 | cafuego | Shaik: Do you have a way to give it net access after installation? |
| 01:12.53 | Shaik | Probably not... unless you know about networking over crossover cables :) |
| 01:13.07 | Shaik | Which I'm lost on, myself. |
| 01:13.10 | cafuego | Shaik: networking via crossover cables is trivial. |
| 01:13.31 | cafuego | Shaik: You'll need 2 computers and a crossover cable for that. |
| 01:13.39 | Arafangion | cafuego, Your making it harder than it sounds! |
| 01:13.50 | Arafangion | Shaik, It's _LESS_ than trivial. |
| 01:14.00 | Arafangion | Shaik, Only slightly harder than local. |
| 01:14.10 | cafuego | Arafangion: No, the bit where you set up one of them to NAT/route is non-trivial. |
| 01:14.22 | Shaik | Well, I've got them, but it always gives me a IP conflict error. |
| 01:14.38 | Shaik | See, I'm bridging a wireless connection off of XP. |
| 01:14.40 | cafuego | Shaik: *nod* the trick is to pick the right network addresses. |
| 01:14.40 | pluggie | cafuego isn't that like one command to enable routing and one to enable nat? |
| 01:14.55 | Shaik | So which network adresses would I use? |
| 01:14.56 | cafuego | pluggie: That depends on the router. |
| 01:15.24 | cafuego | Shaik: You'd enable network sharing for the ethernet card on Xp, after that it should be a matter of plugging in the crossover able. |
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| 01:16.18 | Shaik | Cafuego: I'm using a USB device to recieve wireless, and I've been having a tough time figuring out how to enable ICS on it. |
| 01:16.23 | Solet | how do you format a floppy disk from the xserver? |
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| 01:16.34 | cafuego | Shaik: Does the USB device show up as a normal nic? |
| 01:16.56 | cafuego | Solet: xterm -e mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0 |
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| 01:17.15 | drini | solet, open a xterm and use the appropiate mkfs command depending on the filesystem you want to put on the floppy |
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| 01:18.17 | flux | Solet: maybe (i don't know, i never tried) your file manager can handle it : right click on /dev/fd0 and see if you may format |
| 01:18.20 | Shaikoten | Yes, I believe so. |
| 01:18.22 | cafuego | Shaik: if so, just use the 'Advanced' tab on properties to enable ICS on it. |
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| 01:19.15 | cafuego | Shaik: And select the ethernet one as 'Home network'. |
| 01:19.24 | Shaikoten | Cafuego: Well, it gives me an error there. |
| 01:19.39 | Shaikoten | Saying that the router already has 192.168.0.1 |
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| 01:20.01 | troubled | @kernel |
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| 01:20.06 | cafuego | Shaikoten: Ha. is the IP on the wireless device in the 192.168.0.x range? |
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| 01:20.10 | ravenbird | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.11.6, prepatch: 2.6.12-rc1, snapshot: 2.6.12-rc1-bk5, 2.4: 2.4.29, prepatch: 2.4.30-rc4, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac6, -mm patch: 2.6.12-rc1-mm4 |
| 01:20.27 | Desconso | join #mepis |
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| 01:20.34 | cafuego | Desconso: I don't want to. |
| 01:20.39 | Shaikoten | Cafuego: Yes, it's statically set to 192.168.0.7 |
| 01:21.12 | Solet | grrr its not working |
| 01:21.28 | cafuego | Shaikoten: *nod* Ok, so your shared backend ntwork will need a different IP range (or, depending on whether you're sharing thw wifi with others, you could change the IP range on that) |
| 01:21.29 | Solet | how do i unmount and remount a floppy drive? |
| 01:21.37 | mwilson | libtool is orphaned? |
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| 01:21.43 | cafuego | Solet: umount /floppy; mount /floppy |
| 01:21.47 | mwilson | Hm, what replaces it, then? |
| 01:21.52 | MobyTurbo | mwilson: apparantly so |
| 01:21.54 | cafuego | mwilson: Nothing, it should die! |
| 01:22.10 | asuffield | you're probably looking at libtool 1.4 |
| 01:22.16 | mwilson | cafuego: Should it? Everything and its brother seem to depend on it. |
| 01:22.20 | Shaikoten | Cafuego: I'm not planning to share the wifi, just go over crossover. How would I configure it to work like that? |
| 01:22.22 | helix | ugh, libtool1.4, hate |
| 01:22.26 | mwilson | libtool (1.5.6-6) unstable; urgency=low |
| 01:22.26 | mwilson | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.38 | mwilson | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.41 | cafuego | mwilson: Same goes for windows, but I don't see that as a reason to advocate its life ;-) |
| 01:22.42 | mwilson | You tell me. :) |
| 01:22.44 | nSe | green_earz: what i have to do to turn my amp down? |
| 01:22.47 | Desconso | cafuego: mistyped command. My bad! |
| 01:23.08 | cafuego | Shaikoten: Hold on, lemme check... |
| 01:23.15 | MobyTurbo | nSe: get a mixer. I like aumix |
| 01:23.19 | helix | mwilson: someone has already picked it up, afaik |
| 01:23.26 | cafuego | Shaikoten: Can you set an IP (192.168.1.1) on the ethernet card? |
| 01:23.37 | HeavyD | I'm getting an X Server error on boot of this : "Fatal server error: __glXExtensionInit: AddExtensions failed. " and X won't load...Can anybody help? |
| 01:23.52 | bob2 | HeavyD: did you install ati or nvidia drivers? |
| 01:23.57 | nSe | MobyTurbo: i have Kmix. that's enought? |
| 01:24.08 | mwilson | helix: As a non-programmer (well, other than in awk & python), it's not like it matters to me one way or the other. Itjust seemed to be a rather unique and essential package. |
| 01:24.10 | MobyTurbo | nSe: yes |
| 01:24.29 | HeavyD | bob2: Yeah I have fglrx ati drivers installed but they have been working for a while and the problem just showed up recently. |
| 01:24.32 | cafuego | nSe: kmix. Did you configure xmms to output via the arts plugin? |
| 01:24.34 | helix | mwilson: well, yeah, it is. that's why it got adopted so quickly :) |
| 01:24.40 | MobyTurbo | nSe: except maybe, if it's a KDE program, it requires aRts to be running. |
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| 01:24.45 | bob2 | HeavyD: then look at what you changed since it last worked |
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| 01:24.53 | asuffield | well, the *package* isn't as important as it appears |
| 01:25.04 | HeavyD | bob2: Nothing. But I was running in root because i'm a dumbass so probably something changed without me knowing. |
| 01:25.11 | libben | im looking for a ftp client that can handle TLS and has GUI... anyone recomend? |
| 01:25.14 | nSe | MobyTurbo, cafuego: never heard a word about aRts |
| 01:25.15 | Shaikoten | Cafuego: Yes, I just did. |
| 01:25.17 | helix | asuffield: right, but scott was part of upstream too, wasn't he? |
| 01:25.18 | Desconso | HeavyD: sounds like a version clash. Both the glx and the nvidia kernel should be v. 1.0.7167-1. |
| 01:25.18 | cafuego | mwilson: Not half as evil as sound deamons |
| 01:25.19 | asuffield | libtool is typically stashed in the source tree, and not used from the package |
| 01:25.29 | asuffield | helix: yeah, dunno what's going on there |
| 01:25.30 | cafuego | Shaikoten: Ok, can you ry the Share trick on the wifi again now? |
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| 01:25.34 | MobyTurbo | nSe: aRts is to KDE what esd is to GNOME |
| 01:25.44 | helix | that's the more concerning part since aiui, he at least made it partially sane |
| 01:25.48 | mwilson | MobyTurbo: Crap, in other words. |
| 01:25.51 | MobyTurbo | nSe: KDE's control panel can disable that. Do it. |
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| 01:25.57 | asuffield | millions of people have patched libtool over the years |
| 01:25.57 | MobyTurbo | mwilson: bingo |
| 01:25.58 | HeavyD | Desconso: thanks anyways, but i'm using fglrx ati drivers |
| 01:25.59 | cafuego | nSe: arts is the sound system used by KDE. |
| 01:26.08 | Shaikoten | Cafuego: Same error. |
| 01:26.09 | cartel_ | arts is horrible |
| 01:26.18 | asuffield | it is basically crap and needs to be replaced, but nobody can stand to do it |
| 01:26.20 | cafuego | Shaikoten: Ok. There's an easy way around this. |
| 01:26.27 | Xenguy | libben: gftp doesn't do this? |
| 01:26.32 | libben | nope |
| 01:26.33 | hulu | why can i not join #java? it says i "need to be identified" is this not the same as a registered nick? |
| 01:26.35 | libben | it does SSH |
| 01:26.36 | cartel_ | should rip out arts and use jack |
| 01:26.38 | helix | that seems consistent with my impressions.. :) |
| 01:26.39 | asuffield | since it is essentially an enormously huge database of stupid platforms |
| 01:26.53 | Xenguy | libben: hrm |
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| 01:26.59 | asuffield | so rewriting it would primarily be a task of comprehending a large quantity of stupid |
| 01:27.01 | mwilson | jack is more than a little... overkill. |
| 01:27.03 | libben | I can connect with flasxhfxp on winxp... so i have the right username and pass and port. |
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| 01:27.16 | cafuego | Shaikoten: You should change the IP on the wifi card to 10.0.0.1 (this will kill you connection) and then share it. When that's done, change the IP on the ethernet link to 192.168.1.1. Then change the IP on the wireless back to 192.168.0.7. |
| 01:27.20 | MobyTurbo | helix: #java has been replaced by ##java I think |
| 01:27.22 | libben | but ive tryed lftp, gftp, ftp-ssl and so on |
| 01:27.28 | libben | but i really want GUI =) |
| 01:27.29 | mwilson | libben: fxp, huh? Gotta move those warez around, I'm sure. |
| 01:27.32 | helix | MobyTurbo: why would I care about that? |
| 01:27.33 | MobyTurbo | er. hulu ^^ |
| 01:27.35 | hulu | anyhow, i am writing an applet. when i refresh my browser i keep getting an old version of the applet loading. why won't it run the current (revised) applet? |
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| 01:27.38 | helix | oh ok :) |
| 01:27.41 | libben | mwilson, nono *cough* |
| 01:27.43 | cafuego | Shaikoten: it's a bit of a hassle, but it just goes to show how braindead windows is. |
| 01:27.46 | Gnea | jack rocks |
| 01:27.47 | MobyTurbo | helix: bad tab completion, sorry |
| 01:27.55 | helix | yeah, I saw :) |
| 01:28.02 | nSe | MobyTurbo: any problem for other apps in disabling arts ? |
| 01:28.03 | Shaikoten | Cafuego: Understood, it's a shame I need it :P |
| 01:28.06 | libben | isnt there ANY ftp client that can support TLS encryption and has GUI |
| 01:28.08 | cafuego | Shaikoten: <heh> |
| 01:28.12 | Shaikoten | I'll be back in a bit... |
| 01:28.15 | hulu | yes i cannot /join ##java either. same message |
| 01:28.17 | libben | this is unbelivable |
| 01:28.18 | resiak | hulu: If it's saying you need to be identified, then you've not done /msg nickserv identify <yourpassword> |
| 01:28.21 | mwilson | Gnea: Never said jack wasn't a wonderful thing, but it's extreme overkill for a arts/esd replacement. |
| 01:28.26 | cafuego | libben: Sure there is. Google. |
| 01:28.27 | hulu | resiak: been there done that |
| 01:28.31 | MobyTurbo | nSe: maybe you'll loose KDE sound-effects |
| 01:28.42 | mwilson | Gnea: Assuming either one actually needs to be replaced, which imho they don't. |
| 01:28.45 | resiak | hulu: You are _not_ identified. I just whoised you. |
| 01:28.50 | hulu | oh |
| 01:29.00 | helix | pwned |
| 01:29.00 | resiak | hulu: Hence why I told you to identify. |
| 01:29.08 | hulu | oops |
| 01:29.08 | spoopin | libben: Hve you looked at Filezilla? It may do that. |
| 01:29.11 | mwilson | Gnea: They just need to be done away with. |
| 01:29.15 | cafuego | Yes, you're red, not green. |
| 01:29.19 | hulu | yes i had a space at the beginning of the command line! |
| 01:29.33 | Gnea | mwilson: actually it's a great replacement. esd and artsd suffer from not being able to properly channel virtual sound channels. of course, the best solution is to simply toss a second audio card in, run some patch cables and play with some mixer settings :) |
| 01:29.50 | cafuego | hulu: Are you hitting shift-relaod in the browser? |
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| 01:29.57 | Gnea | mwilson: but in the case of the hammerfall rle, jack is indespensible |
| 01:30.11 | zignig | bleh! |
| 01:30.21 | cafuego | zignig: auto_bleh! |
| 01:30.33 | nSe | MobyTurbo: but i can't configure xmms to work properly with kde's aRts ? |
| 01:30.38 | hulu | cafuego: konqueror. just f5 reload |
| 01:30.49 | cafuego | hulu: try shift-reload |
| 01:30.57 | cafuego | hulu: Hold down shift, click reload. |
| 01:31.02 | mwilson | Gnea: For 99.9% of people, as long as they can play their pirated MP3's, that's enough. |
| 01:31.07 | cafuego | hulu: that will (should) bypass the cache. |
| 01:31.13 | hulu | cafuego: did not work :( |
| 01:31.29 | zignig | cafuego: auto bleh would be bad, I be buried in bleh particles. |
| 01:31.36 | cafuego | hulu: empty cache, shutdown browser, start browser, try aagin. |
| 01:31.38 | zignig | cafuego: and that would be bad. |
| 01:31.38 | green_earz | nSe: dose the command cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp make any sound ? |
| 01:31.58 | cafuego | zignig: That would make pretty firework with antibleh particles. |
| 01:32.01 | hulu | oh my |
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| 01:32.28 | zignig | cafuego: ooo aaaa, pretty. |
| 01:32.36 | Gnea | mwilson: i don't consider them to be proper development-worthy targets - rather, people who are in the business to make music and record it on a level is more my style - and it's happened |
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| 01:32.52 | zignig | cafuego: do you have an anti-bleh accelerator at home, if so can you send me the designs ? |
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| 01:33.16 | hulu | cafuego: well i cleared cache then opened a separate browser window but its the same. this is a drag since i have many tabs open. :( |
| 01:33.19 | BigBlockO_ | if i want to redirect output of a script to a file, i use ./script.sh file.txt 1>&2? |
| 01:33.36 | cafuego | hulu: Are you sure you recompiled the applet? |
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| 01:34.08 | Shaikoten | Quite a roundabout trick, but it seems to have done it :) |
| 01:34.12 | cafuego | Shaikoten: Luck? |
| 01:34.14 | hulu | cafuego: yes definite. it is showing a version that was like 20 edits back. |
| 01:34.16 | mwilson | Gnea: Yes, which is why jack is overkill as a arts/esd replacement, as I said. |
| 01:34.27 | cafuego | Shaikoten: Cool, now your mac will have net access when you boot it :-) |
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| 01:34.37 | decayed | BigBlockO_: ./script >> file.txt (?) |
| 01:34.44 | Shaikoten | Cafuego, do I have to bridge the connections? |
| 01:34.45 | BigBlockO_ | ok |
| 01:34.53 | cafuego | Shaikoten: No, just ICS is fine. |
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| 01:35.18 | cafuego | Shaikoten: XP should automagicaly hand out a 192.168.1.x address |
| 01:35.33 | cafuego | Shaikoten: So time to download & boot :-) |
| 01:35.35 | hulu | what is the latest name of the mozilla browser? or the one that is currently being developed? |
| 01:35.40 | Gnea | mwilson: so what you're saying is that most people are pirates so it's better to blanket them as such regardless what their true intentions are? |
| 01:35.45 | cafuego | hulu: mozilla-firefox |
| 01:35.50 | hulu | thx |
| 01:35.59 | Shaikoten | Cafuego: Alright, thanks, hopefully I won't need any more help :P But, I closed out the window, which ISO did you want me to grab? |
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| 01:36.10 | decayed | hulu: I still use 1.5 :) |
| 01:36.14 | libben | anyone has iglooftp ? as deb files and uptodate versions? |
| 01:36.43 | BigBlockO_ | thanks |
| 01:37.14 | nSe | green_earz: no output msg when doing "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" - no sound too |
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| 01:38.43 | green_earz | nSe: so it looks like the sound driver for the card is not installed if the cat did nothing |
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| 01:39.38 | cafuego | green_earz: itis, as there was no error. |
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| 01:40.12 | cafuego | Shaikoten: /msg dpkg d-i - fetch the rc3 ppc netinst iso from the site dpkg tells you. |
| 01:40.20 | mwilson | Wow... I never saw mutt do that before. |
| 01:40.29 | green_earz | cafuego: no error but still no sound ? |
| 01:40.34 | mwilson | Gnea: Yes, pretty much. |
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| 01:40.52 | cafuego | green_earz: That means the driver is loaded but the volume is down. |
| 01:41.03 | green_earz | yes |
| 01:41.16 | cafuego | green_earz: and/or the speakers aren't on/plugged in |
| 01:41.20 | mwilson | Can't someone cut off this Vancouver thread already? Sheesh. |
| 01:41.25 | nSe | green_earz: i can play sound with other apps such as totem, xine, vlc... any idea? |
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| 01:41.35 | cafuego | mwilson: You have something against canadians? |
| 01:42.00 | Talsino | Alguien habla español.? |
| 01:42.04 | cafuego | !es |
| 01:42.04 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 01:42.09 | mwilson | cafuego: Not at all. But the same thing is being said and said and said. |
| 01:42.21 | cafuego | mwilson: Well, maybe you should... |
| 01:42.25 | Talsino | thank's |
| 01:42.25 | green_earz | nSe: have you installed the nvidia driver for 3d ? ? |
| 01:42.40 | mwilson | Maybe I should what? |
| 01:42.55 | cafuego | mwilson: have something against canadians ;-) |
| 01:43.01 | Gnea | lol |
| 01:43.18 | Gnea | but there are many cute and sexy canadian women |
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| 01:43.37 | mwilson | Why would I have something against Canadians? |
| 01:43.41 | cafuego | Gnea: There are FAR more cute and sexy non-canadian women. |
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| 01:43.54 | Gnea | cafuego: you've met them all? |
| 01:44.01 | cafuego | Gnea: Both, yes. |
| 01:44.04 | decayed | Gnea: I like too :) |
| 01:44.11 | FieldySnuts | ..... |
| 01:44.17 | Gnea | cafuego: yeah, you're a bigger slut than i ever was |
| 01:44.19 | Gnea | #) |
| 01:44.30 | abrotman | asg: ping! |
| 01:44.34 | cafuego | Gnea: if only you knew... |
| 01:44.54 | trini | hey guys, quick question... where does debian keep the files that define which login manager to use? |
| 01:44.54 | abrotman | you mean there are sexy canadian women? |
| 01:45.02 | Gnea | cafuego: wait... does that say "cannucks fuck your ego"? :) |
| 01:45.06 | cafuego | WOO! DEMOLITION PARTY! |
| 01:45.21 | asuffield | abrotman: don't you watch andromeda? |
| 01:45.47 | nSe | green_earz: no, i have to do this just to play a .mp3 file with xmms? |
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| 01:45.51 | Gnea | trini: depends what's been linked from /etc/init.d/ into /etc/rc*.d/ levels |
| 01:45.51 | cartel_ | i dont care about nationality as long as they are short and have a nice ass :) |
| 01:46.11 | trini | Gnea, thanks |
| 01:46.21 | Gnea | np |
| 01:46.30 | abrotman | asuffield: all i know is shania twain |
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| 01:46.44 | cafuego | abrotman: Don't forget Celine Dion |
| 01:46.56 | abrotman | cafuego: we said sexy |
| 01:47.03 | decayed | Shania Twain hehehe... |
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| 01:47.14 | cafuego | abrotman: Haha. Wtf you mention Shania Twain for then? |
| 01:47.29 | abrotman | cafuego: she was hot maybe still is .. celine NEVER was |
| 01:47.30 | abrotman | :) |
| 01:47.37 | cafuego | abrotman: Sorry, but no. |
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| 01:47.51 | cafuego | (I appreciate Celine is SCARY, but so is Shania) |
| 01:48.19 | cafuego | never trust women who name themselves after a scanner driver. |
| 01:48.20 | abrotman | cafuego: you'd still do her :) |
| 01:48.30 | PitchForkLinux | quick question on exim4. I don't run any mail server or sql databases. I only access mail from the internet. Can I uninstall exim4 with relatively few issues and still be able to send and rec mail using a local |
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| 01:48.36 | cafuego | abrotman: No, i wouldn't. |
| 01:48.47 | abrotman | cafuego: alanis morrisette? |
| 01:48.52 | mwilson | trini: What is a "login manager"? |
| 01:48.54 | cafuego | abrotman: No, thankyou. |
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| 01:49.00 | Gnea | PitchForkLinux: well you need an MTA in order to do locally |
| 01:49.03 | abrotman | cafuego: neil young ? |
| 01:49.16 | cafuego | abrotman: OO-ER! |
| 01:49.17 | nevyn | PitchForkLinux: the short answer is on. |
| 01:49.20 | nevyn | PitchForkLinux: the short answer is no. |
| 01:49.33 | Gnea | the long answer is off |
| 01:49.34 | Gnea | :) |
| 01:49.35 | abrotman | cafuego: well .. i bet he's at least fun to hang out with :) |
| 01:49.40 | cafuego | PitchForkLinux: The long answer is: you NEED an MTA installed. |
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| 01:50.07 | PitchForkLinux | ok. Postfix is my alternative MTA? |
| 01:50.07 | Gnea | PitchForkLinux: but nice thing about exim4 is you can tell it exactly what interface(s) to listen on |
| 01:50.15 | LunarCrisis | I've been using portable USB flash drive successfully for a few months now, but today I did an update in aptitude and it stopped working, it gives me this error when I try to mount it: mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 01:50.21 | abrotman | PitchForkLinux: among others |
| 01:50.29 | Gnea | PitchForkLinux: in your case you can simply reconfigure it to listen on localhost |
| 01:50.34 | abrotman | LunarCrisis: did you update hotplug ? |
| 01:50.44 | bob2 | LunarCrisis: did you get a new kernel? |
| 01:50.49 | PitchForkLinux | abrotman. Is there any issues about exim4? should I just leave it in place? |
| 01:50.51 | LunarCrisis | abrotman: not sure, is there a way to check? |
| 01:50.59 | Witigonen | Hey all... I've got a Debian webserver and I was hoping to have something like a chat room that admins can use to discuss ideas and what they're doing when they're sshed into it. What are your recommendations on what to use? |
| 01:51.06 | LunarCrisis | bob2 I installed a new kernel module yesterday, that's all |
| 01:51.11 | abrotman | LunarCrisis: you sohuld know |
| 01:51.27 | abrotman | LunarCrisis: i track sarge .. today i got a new hotplug .. |
| 01:51.31 | trini | mwilson, i am not 100% since I dont use one... but from what i gather its the box that asks you your password and username when you boot up |
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| 01:51.34 | bob2 | Witigonen: IRC |
| 01:51.36 | MobyTurbo | PitchForkLinux: if you need to ask you shouldn't |
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| 01:52.01 | LunarCrisis | then I'll bet it was updated, I'm using sarge |
| 01:52.01 | trini | mwilson, there is xdm, gdm, kdm and maybe more.. i have no idea.... i am trying ot help someone else over the phone |
| 01:52.02 | sofi | hello |
| 01:52.14 | abrotman | Witigonen: you could setup jabber .. but bob2 is right .. irc is probably the answer .. you can have it just not listen outside |
| 01:52.23 | Witigonen | That would be ideal. |
| 01:52.59 | LunarCrisis | abrotman is there configuration I need to do for hotplug to make it work, or is it just a bug that was introduced? |
| 01:53.01 | Witigonen | So is there a recommended irc server package? |
| 01:53.15 | abrotman | LunarCrisis: dunno .. didn't try my hotplug since it updated |
| 01:53.16 | bob2 | Witigonen: dancer-ircd or oftc-hybrd |
| 01:54.23 | decayed | LunarCrisis: I had this problem some time ago... |
| 01:55.05 | hulu | wow one think i love about the debian menu system: you can edit/customize entries in /usr/lib/menu but when you deinstall a package it still removes the entry |
| 01:55.19 | LunarCrisis | decayed: what did you do about it? |
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| 01:55.54 | hulu | although it might be nice to save the entry too to keep the heirarchical organization in case the package is reinstalled |
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| 01:56.26 | dVoid | how can i remove exim4 ? |
| 01:56.40 | hulu | dVoid: apt-get install postix |
| 01:56.48 | hulu | s/postix/postfix |
| 01:56.56 | decayed | LunarCrisis: I still don't know what causes this problem... many things just left in /dev ... including sda*... |
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| 01:57.16 | dVoid | hulu: will that install a different app for mail? |
| 01:57.26 | LunarCrisis | abrotman: the hotplug version I have installed is 0.0.20040329-17, very old |
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| 01:57.31 | hulu | s/postfix/postfix|sendmail|<your-mta-of-choice> |
| 01:57.31 | decayed | LunarCrisis: I recompiled the kernel again... and problem goes out |
| 01:57.32 | LunarCrisis | maybe it didn't update |
| 01:57.33 | Ronin | im so starting to understand the @'s here more and more :) just not sure if thats a good thing |
| 01:57.46 | abrotman | LunarCrisis: same one i have |
| 01:57.51 | LunarCrisis | hmmm |
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| 01:58.13 | dVoid | hulu, i dont want a app for email, i just wanna remove exim apt-get remove exim4 ?? |
| 01:58.17 | BenDrake | doot doot doot |
| 01:58.31 | PitchForkLinux | abrotman. trying to run a queen "A Night at The Opera" DVD but says there is no plugin to run that dvd. where can I find a source to add plugins for totem |
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| 01:58.41 | dVoid | no email = np |
| 01:58.44 | Talsino | alguien me puede ayudar, |
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| 01:59.01 | BenDrake | what dvd app are you using? |
| 01:59.01 | abrotman | PitchForkLinux: libdvdread maybe? |
| 01:59.14 | abrotman | BenDrake: he said .. totem. |
| 01:59.21 | abrotman | PitchForkLinux: which back end .. xine or gstreamer? |
| 01:59.24 | BenDrake | ooh, I jsut came in |
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| 01:59.31 | BenDrake | lol, i didnt notice it till now |
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| 02:00.28 | Talsino | alguien me puede ayudar..... |
| 02:00.32 | FieldySnuts | @lart Talsino |
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| 02:00.41 | Talsino | en debian.es no pudieron |
| 02:00.42 | FieldySnuts | bleh no ravenbird |
| 02:00.42 | hanasaki | is there a way to remove a package that is exiting with -1 when doing an apt-get remove? |
| 02:00.43 | bww | hi. I use exim and courier-imap and .forward files to filter the mail. I need a web based GUI so users can edit the .forward files. Anyone know of any |
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| 02:01.11 | pluggie | dVoid the trouble is you need a mta to satisfy many dependencies |
| 02:01.29 | pluggie | dVoid try apt-get install ssmtp exim- |
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| 02:01.55 | LunarCrisis | is it possible to go back to an older version of a package I have upgraded? |
| 02:01.55 | pluggie | ssmtp is basically just a small stub app that pushes local mail to a remote mailserver and does nothing else |
| 02:01.58 | dVoid | exim is messed up its screwing up other crap now.. |
| 02:02.01 | hulu | bww: freshmeat.net |
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| 02:02.11 | Talsino | quien me podra ayudar por aca |
| 02:02.15 | dVoid | pluggie: ok |
| 02:02.18 | hulu | LunarCrisis: snapshot.debian.net |
| 02:02.23 | jetx | !br |
| 02:02.23 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:02.26 | jetx | !es |
| 02:02.26 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:02.35 | pluggie | LunarCrisis i think its apt-get install package=version |
| 02:02.45 | Talsino | en debian.es no pudieron ayudarme |
| 02:02.48 | psyklops | Debian really needs to fix the repository to point the automake package at the latest version. Currently, doing `apt-get install automake` gets 1.4 |
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| 02:03.03 | Talsino | debian.es...NADIE ME PUDO AYUDAR |
| 02:03.09 | Talsino | alguien puede por aca? |
| 02:03.14 | jetx | Talsino: no tengo las palabras, y los putos aqui no quiere espanol aqui |
| 02:03.17 | pluggie | psyklops woody sarge or sid? |
| 02:03.27 | LunarCrisis | alright thanks |
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| 02:03.48 | psyklops | sarge |
| 02:03.55 | psyklops | might be sid though... |
| 02:03.58 | Danar | can someone help me get azureus installed? the azureus package from the deb repository is not installable... |
| 02:04.05 | psyklops | I'm using sid repositories |
| 02:04.31 | Talsino | my English is bad |
| 02:04.44 | dVoid | pluggie: thx |
| 02:04.48 | Eclipser | !thx |
| 02:04.48 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. |
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| 02:05.22 | dVoid | yea i know THX is great |
| 02:05.27 | Eclipser | :) |
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| 02:05.34 | dVoid | is this saposed to be on 1 line? cd /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel |
| 02:05.34 | dVoid | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.50 | tatoo | can somebody help me to mount an extended partition? |
| 02:06.00 | Guerin | dVoid: yes |
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| 02:06.22 | dVoid | Guerin: ok |
| 02:06.29 | Talsino | I can't be run a aplication becouse it's use in windows the HKL\machine .... how excecute it's a debian¡? |
| 02:06.31 | Eclipser | mwilson, eh? why not use apt for OOo? |
| 02:06.42 | Talsino | sorry. my English is ba |
| 02:06.46 | mwilson | Eclipser: I need to steal stuff out of it. |
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| 02:06.57 | Danar | azureus depends on java2-runtime or sun-j2sdk1.5, but neither exist in the debian repository... i have java installed but i can't install azureus |
| 02:07.01 | mwilson | Eclipser: I'm not installing it. |
| 02:07.08 | Eclipser | oookay |
| 02:07.18 | bltzfsck | I've been through the nvidia module installation, and apparently got the wrong version |
| 02:07.19 | Guerin | !tell Danar about java-package |
| 02:07.43 | pluggie | !java-package |
| 02:07.43 | dpkg | i heard java-package is the new name for mpkg-j2se... err, I mean j2se-package... DAMN IT, CAN'T THEY PICK A NAME?! Anyway, it lets you build a .deb file from Sun's non-free upstream Java distributions. See "man make-jpkg". Cf. "make-kpkg" (from kernel-package).only in sarge and sid currently, but it's a -all package, so it's safe to use it in woody. This packages lives in 'contrib', so make sure you have that in your sources.list. |
| 02:07.54 | tatoo | i mean how can i mount that... |
| 02:07.57 | Guerin | pluggie: just couldn't keep it to yourself? |
| 02:08.02 | bltzfsck | i got version 1.0.7 something, and it didn't match something else that had version 1.0.6629 |
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| 02:08.05 | kbrooks | Poke. |
| 02:08.11 | FieldySnuts | shove. |
| 02:08.12 | Eclipser | ehm |
| 02:08.14 | bltzfsck | would that be my xserver? |
| 02:08.15 | toresbe | kbrooks: ?SYNTAX ERROR |
| 02:08.23 | Eclipser | info azureus sarge |
| 02:08.24 | kbrooks | toresbe, meh |
| 02:08.25 | Eclipser | whosp |
| 02:08.29 | Eclipser | !info azureus sarge |
| 02:08.30 | FieldySnuts | @molest Phated |
| 02:08.31 | dpkg | azureus: (BitTorrent client), section contrib/net, is optional. Version: 2.2.0.2-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 4981 kB, Installed size: 5960 kB |
| 02:08.37 | FieldySnuts | damnit. /me hides |
| 02:08.44 | Eclipser | hm? it doesn't show dependancies? |
| 02:08.54 | Guerin | Eclipser: not unless you ask it to |
| 02:08.59 | Eclipser | ok |
| 02:09.04 | kbrooks | how |
| 02:09.14 | kbrooks | !help info |
| 02:09.15 | toresbe | !dependancies azureus sarge |
| 02:09.30 | FieldySnuts | yes |
| 02:09.31 | FieldySnuts | i mean no |
| 02:09.38 | Phated | :P |
| 02:09.41 | MobyTurbo | hehe |
| 02:09.41 | FieldySnuts | hi :) |
| 02:09.50 | Guerin | !depends azureus sarge |
| 02:09.51 | mwilson | crap... the icons aren't in it. |
| 02:09.52 | dpkg | azureus: depends on sun-j2sdk1.5 | java2-runtime, sun-j2sdk1.5 | java-virtual-machine, libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.7.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.4.7), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.4), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.6.0), libxtst6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0) |
| 02:10.01 | Talsino | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.09 | FieldySnuts | wtf? |
| 02:10.12 | toresbe | Guerin: cheers, didn't know about that one |
| 02:10.13 | Talsino | sorry. my english is bad |
| 02:10.16 | FieldySnuts | that should be an !irritate line |
| 02:10.20 | kbrooks | oh fuck |
| 02:10.26 | Guerin | or a !nonsense |
| 02:10.42 | toresbe | Talsino: that made no sense... ask in #debian-es please :) |
| 02:10.46 | kbrooks | Talsino, you can't run an application because it uses the registry? |
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| 02:11.00 | kbrooks | toresbe, he doesnt have to! |
| 02:11.11 | toresbe | kbrooks: well, that was *confusing* |
| 02:11.19 | jetx | !kbrooks++ |
| 02:11.20 | toresbe | I'm sorry, but I didn't understand any of it |
| 02:11.20 | Pepina | kbrooks, then talk to him in spanish ;) |
| 02:11.26 | kbrooks | Talsino, use Wine. apt-get install wine |
| 02:11.33 | toresbe | Pepina: ...in #debian-es :P |
| 02:11.39 | PitchForkLinux | abrotman. I get this error in kaffeine Can't check DMA mode. Permission denied or no such device: "/dev/dvd". Also with other media players I get errors saying that can't find /media/cdrom0. |
| 02:12.05 | abrotman | permissions ? |
| 02:12.14 | kbrooks | jetx, uhh, errr, thx |
| 02:12.18 | jetx | PitchForkLinux: is there a /media/cdrom0? if not, dpkg-reconfigure discover and say no to manage mount points |
| 02:12.19 | abrotman | dunno |
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| 02:12.29 | PitchForkLinux | do I need to add user to the CD rom group? |
| 02:12.31 | mwilson | grrr |
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| 02:12.35 | Talsino | sorry... but wine also can HKLM... I need import HKL\user |
| 02:12.35 | Danar | ok, dpkg was no help. i can't find any of those packages |
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| 02:12.38 | jetx | adduser user cdrom |
| 02:12.53 | Eclipser | Danar, install java-package |
| 02:12.57 | maher | !ops HaKim on join spam |
| 02:12.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: HaKim on join spam |
| 02:13.00 | jetx | Danar: apt-cache search | grep something |
| 02:13.02 | bltzfsck | anybody here familiar with the nvidia kernel-module? |
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| 02:13.12 | jetx | maher: /umode +E |
| 02:13.12 | Danar | jetx: i did search them |
| 02:13.21 | jetx | Danar: ok :/ |
| 02:13.27 | Eclipser | !java-package |
| 02:13.27 | dpkg | java-package is probably the new name for mpkg-j2se... err, I mean j2se-package... DAMN IT, CAN'T THEY PICK A NAME?! Anyway, it lets you build a .deb file from Sun's non-free upstream Java distributions. See "man make-jpkg". Cf. "make-kpkg" (from kernel-package).only in sarge and sid currently, but it's a -all package, so it's safe to use it in woody. This packages lives in 'contrib', so make sure you have that in your sources.list. |
| 02:13.30 | Danar | er, strange |
| 02:13.30 | Eclipser | read that |
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| 02:13.38 | bob2 | alindeman: thanks :) |
| 02:13.44 | MobyTurbo | !botabuse |
| 02:13.45 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 02:14.01 | Danar | i see java-package now that i searched for it specifically, but when i looked for stuff with 'java' i didn't see it. oh well. thx |
| 02:14.02 | LoRez | bob2: no problem ;) |
| 02:14.04 | Eclipser | dpkg, never! |
| 02:14.04 | dpkg | it has been said that never is when woody will release |
| 02:14.10 | Eclipser | ehheh |
| 02:14.10 | bob2 | LoRez: ah, heh |
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| 02:14.26 | Talsino | sorry... but wine also can HKLM... I need import HKL\user |
| 02:14.37 | Pepina | !gentoosmite Eclipser |
| 02:14.45 | Eclipser | Danar, install java-package, download sun's java install .bin file, run fakeroot make-jpkg thebinfile |
| 02:14.50 | Talsino | sorry... but wine only can HKLM... I need import HKL\user |
| 02:14.57 | Eclipser | Danar, then dpkg -i thejavapackage.deb |
| 02:15.01 | jetx | !tell Talsino about repeat |
| 02:15.09 | Danar | Eclipser: alrighty, thx |
| 02:15.12 | jetx | no repetan por favor |
| 02:15.23 | maher | jetx: what does umode +E do |
| 02:15.26 | FieldySnuts | holy crap, super sunday |
| 02:15.40 | MobyTurbo | !sing sunday |
| 02:15.40 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 02:15.43 | Eclipser | it's monday here |
| 02:15.47 | FieldySnuts | close enough |
| 02:15.49 | Eclipser | 0515am |
| 02:15.49 | jetx | maher: keeps unregistered users from /msg'ing you |
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| 02:16.06 | jetx | maher: /topic |
| 02:16.18 | wwallace | whats the event viewer in windows in linux? |
| 02:16.19 | zignig | Expander: 10:16 am here, you are so behind the times. |
| 02:16.20 | maher | is that freenode specific or general irc - the topic doesn't actually say what it does |
| 02:16.27 | jetx | <--- my fax machine nick |
| 02:16.36 | Eclipser | freenode specific |
| 02:16.53 | Talsino | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:17.06 | jetx | don't use lame games |
| 02:17.06 | MobyTurbo | !tell Talsino about repeat |
| 02:17.13 | jetx | i already did |
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| 02:17.45 | jetx | Talsino: http://idsoftware.com/ |
| 02:17.50 | jetx | :p |
| 02:18.01 | jetx | jejeje |
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| 02:18.11 | wwallace | whats the event viewer in windows in linux? |
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| 02:18.22 | toresbe | !spanish |
| 02:18.24 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:18.26 | LoRez | wwallace: wtf is that supposed to mean? |
| 02:18.30 | jetx | what's an event viewer |
| 02:18.31 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:18.32 | wwallace | yes |
| 02:18.33 | zignig | wwallace: /var/log/syslog |
| 02:18.37 | MobyTurbo | !tell wwallace about repeat |
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| 02:18.49 | wwallace | zignig: thank you very nice |
| 02:18.49 | BenDrake | je ne parle pas. |
| 02:18.56 | toresbe | Talsino: uh, sorry.. no comprende... espanol :\ |
| 02:19.01 | Talsino | in debian.es can´t help me.!!! |
| 02:19.12 | zignig | wwallace: no trouble |
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| 02:19.17 | jetx | like the log.. ah event viewer... yeah /var/log |
| 02:19.26 | toresbe | Talsino: your English is hard to understand... |
| 02:19.29 | resiak | Okay, I feel insanely dumb for asking this. I'm rolling myself a nice new kernel with `make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --revision=01 --append-to-version -resiak --initrd kernel_headers kernel_image`, but installing the debs that are spat out at the end gives "/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /lib/modules/2.6.11-resiak: Not a directory. MODULES needs to be set to none?" Turns out, all my modules are in /lib/modules/2.6.11-resiakresiak/ rather |
| 02:19.35 | wwallace | MobyTurbo: is that the only thing u know how to do? |
| 02:19.54 | MobyTurbo | !u |
| 02:19.54 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:19.54 | jetx | resiak: man kernel-pkg.conf perhaps |
| 02:20.07 | Talsino | jajaja... my english is very bad |
| 02:20.07 | MobyTurbo | wwallace: no |
| 02:20.19 | wwallace | what else u can do? |
| 02:20.23 | hulu | cafuego: i found the tool appletviewer which is used for testing |
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| 02:20.31 | toresbe | Talsino: but, have patience, you could get help in #debian-es if you wait a while... |
| 02:20.46 | MobyTurbo | wwallace: help people, which you'd notice if you paid attention. |
| 02:20.51 | jmstacey | I have my mysqld startup script in /etc/init.d/ but it doesn't start when I restart the computer, however running the command from the command line once the server is up works just fine. Anywhere else I should put it or a link to it? |
| 02:21.05 | mwilson | Hm, actually that didn't come out too badly. |
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| 02:21.20 | PitchForkLinux | jetx. I tried the reconfigure of discover it never asked to manage mount points. Is it another dpkg besides discover |
| 02:21.21 | wwallace | oh really i sort of have a vague memory about u helping |
| 02:21.30 | void | cool i think i got it how can i tell if my nvidia driver is working? |
| 02:21.32 | Talsino | sorry... but in a debian.es they cant help me |
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| 02:21.42 | dondelelcaro | wwallace: can you please lay off the 'u'? It's becomming very annoying. |
| 02:21.58 | angel12 | how can i install openoffice.org |
| 02:22.04 | angel12 | via apt |
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| 02:22.18 | dondelelcaro | angel12: apt-get install openoffice.org |
| 02:22.19 | xbmodder | hello |
| 02:22.28 | Eclipser | jmstacey, try reconfiguring it and then check /etc/rc2.d/ for a symlink to it... if it doesn't exist then man update-rc.d |
| 02:22.39 | wwallace | dondelelcaro: go fuck yourse3lf |
| 02:22.41 | vincent | jmstacey the /etc/rcx.d/ folders contain symlinks to the services that are startup |
| 02:22.45 | xbmodder | helix, cool. |
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| 02:23.23 | jetx | FOLDERS????????? |
| 02:23.28 | xbmodder | helix, will i get bashed here for using gentoo too? |
| 02:23.37 | Eclipser | vincent, you need to get over windows :) |
| 02:23.41 | MobyTurbo | !gentoo |
| 02:23.41 | dpkg | from memory, gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/, or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 |
| 02:23.42 | dondelelcaro | xbmodder: no, but don't ask questions about gentoo here. |
| 02:23.43 | xbmodder | this seems like a pretty messy channel |
| 02:23.59 | asuffield | and you'll probably get laughed at |
| 02:24.08 | bob2 | xbmodder: it attracts a disproportionate number of idiot trolls, yes |
| 02:24.13 | xbmodder | dondelelcaro, i won't not an idiot. |
| 02:24.13 | bob2 | and spammers and crapflooders |
| 02:24.18 | xbmodder | thanks. |
| 02:24.20 | xbmodder | :) |
| 02:24.31 | Eclipser | "won't not"? |
| 02:24.33 | Talsino | bye |
| 02:24.51 | asuffield | Eclipser: I think he covered it pretty well |
| 02:25.09 | Eclipser | damn I love this channel when I'm tired |
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| 02:25.27 | nSe | in a user account how can i run a app with root privileges? i need to extract a file to non-writable folder |
| 02:25.28 | resiak | jetx: Can't see anything relevant in man kernel-pkg.conf, nor man make-kpkg nor man mkinitrd. Was there anything in particular you had in mind? |
| 02:25.39 | jdhutchins1 | nSe, sudo |
| 02:25.41 | asuffield | nSe: you probably want sudo |
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| 02:26.40 | jetx | resiak: something more along the lines of make-kpkg --append-to-version=.2.8611.777 kernel-image |
| 02:27.01 | jetx | one that matches /etc/kernel-pkg.conf |
| 02:27.06 | jetx | the append |
| 02:27.16 | Danar | thanks people :) |
| 02:27.18 | RichiH | as a side note, my gentoo test install was monstrously slow when i tried it, once |
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| 02:27.42 | jetx | if gentoo had been easier to install maybe i would be in #gentoo not #debian |
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| 02:27.49 | toresbe | RichiH: ditto |
| 02:27.51 | Eclipser | I never got my gentoo compiled... the kernel panicked about a null pointer exception :p |
| 02:27.53 | resiak | jetx: I've had no problem appending strings like "pm" and "pm666" (don't ask) to my images before. |
| 02:28.11 | void | how can i change my resulition |
| 02:28.14 | jetx | resiak: just athought, i'm not sure about your missing directory thingy |
| 02:28.15 | void | opps |
| 02:28.17 | resiak | !drxx void |
| 02:28.18 | dpkg | void: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 02:28.28 | nSe | jdhutchins1, asuffield: thank you |
| 02:28.30 | void | thanks |
| 02:28.54 | resiak | jetx: The deb created by make-kpkg seems to dump the modules into a directory with the string appended twice not once (although, oddly, without the -). |
| 02:28.57 | jetx | resiak: any external /usr/src/modules? |
| 02:29.00 | LunarCrisis | I've been using portable USB flash drive successfully for a few months now, but today I did an update in aptitude and it stopped working, it gives me this error when I try to mount it: mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 02:29.03 | Eclipser | void, if you set multiple resolutions in there you should be able to change resolution on the fly using ctrl+alt+[+-] if I recall :) |
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| 02:29.10 | Eclipser | or something |
| 02:29.29 | resiak | jetx: Aside from nvidia-kernel, no. Oh, bugger it, I'll try it with a number in the append. |
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| 02:29.52 | jetx | resiak: according to the manpage, only . & #'s iirc |
| 02:29.55 | tam | hi all, can anyone recommend me a good mail quota program please? |
| 02:30.00 | jetx | dots and numbers |
| 02:30.03 | Cyanophytes | I'm trying to create a temp file for a program to just notice there is a file in a dir and stop if it exists. I tried "echo -e "TEMP FILE" >> /dir/temp.tmp" it creates in when i type it in the shell but not when ran from a bash script |
| 02:30.07 | neige | scuse me i have a queesion, when i try to start sshd it sys that t culd not load host key, and exits, does anyone know how i can generate host key files? |
| 02:30.15 | Gnea | tam: mail quota? |
| 02:30.22 | dondelelcaro | tam: you typically just use the fs quotas themselves |
| 02:30.25 | spoopin | LunarCrisis: what does dmesg say whe you plug in the drive? |
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| 02:30.35 | resiak | jetx: "That means it may contain only lowercase alphanumerics and the characters - + ." |
| 02:30.36 | dondelelcaro | tam: however, some MTAs (or MDAs) can track it for you. |
| 02:30.38 | maher | Cyanophytes: just use touch file to create a file |
| 02:30.41 | Gnea | neige: dpkg-reconfigure ssh |
| 02:30.59 | neige | thanks Gnea |
| 02:31.08 | jetx | resiak: i forget, and i'm on the faxmachine so i can't look easy.. cept online |
| 02:31.14 | resiak | jetx: Sure. |
| 02:31.18 | Gnea | neige: actually |
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| 02:31.30 | Cyanophytes | maher: at in "touch /dir/temp.tmp" ? |
| 02:31.33 | jetx | resiak: mine don't bork though :) |
| 02:31.37 | maher | Cyanophytes: yes |
| 02:31.41 | resiak | jetx: Heh. |
| 02:31.41 | Gnea | neige: rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host_* && dpkg-reconfigure ssh |
| 02:31.42 | Cyanophytes | thanks |
| 02:31.52 | LunarCrisis | spoopin: how do I see? |
| 02:31.54 | kingsley | Why would key strokes start repeating under heavy load after replacing a SCSI hard drive with IDE and converting from ext2 to ext3? |
| 02:32.09 | RichiH | toresbe: i even had all the flags the devs use *shrug* :) |
| 02:32.24 | spoopin | LunarCrisis: plug in the drive, wait a few seconds and type 'dmesg' at a command prompt |
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| 02:32.57 | tam | dondelelcaro: the idea ws that we only really care about mail quotas cos they were kept on different LVM's from the user space |
| 02:33.06 | spoopin | LunarCrisis: It should recognize the drive as a Mass Storage device |
| 02:33.15 | tam | dondelelcaro: but i'll look into the mail storage specific to the MTA |
| 02:33.16 | dondelelcaro | tam: that's fine... so just track the quota on those LVMs |
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| 02:33.36 | tam | dondelelcaro: good point ;) i didn't think of that. it's only 0338 :p |
| 02:33.42 | dondelelcaro | tam: the quota modules are quite good at doing it, and most MTAs are capable of dealing with exceeding quota |
| 02:33.46 | dafen | how come my alasmixer, uppon boot, it mutes pcm everytime? |
| 02:33.47 | LunarCrisis | spoopin: hub.c: new USB device 00:10.3-5, assigned address 10/ WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured/ USB Mass Storage device found at 10 |
| 02:33.53 | dafen | I have to tune it up manually everytime |
| 02:33.59 | toresbe | RichiH: I installed it on the fastest machine I had once |
| 02:34.02 | LunarCrisis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.05 | tam | dondelelcaro: cool. i'm kinda new to all of this and learning by the minute. thanks for the advise |
| 02:34.13 | Shaikoten | So... anyone free that wants to give me a hand with my new problem? :P |
| 02:34.15 | toresbe | RichiH: just so that the gentoo kiddies couldn't say I hadn't tried |
| 02:34.29 | tam | !tell Shaikoten about ask |
| 02:34.30 | Cyanophytes | maher: touch /dir/temp.tmp in the script still does the same thing it works in shell but not in script |
| 02:34.33 | void | what my video card's bus idintifyer? its in the agp slot |
| 02:34.45 | void | whats* |
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| 02:34.56 | LunarCrisis | spoopin: seems to find it properly |
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| 02:35.14 | Shaikoten | I'm having an issue setting up X now, the simple fatal error it's giving me in "No screens found." |
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| 02:35.23 | dondelelcaro | !no screens found |
| 02:35.23 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE) |
| 02:35.24 | spoopin | LunarCrisis: have you tried using different drive names, i.e. /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdc1? |
| 02:35.25 | maher | Cyanophytes: can you paste the script in #flood? |
| 02:35.35 | Shaikoten | -.- |
| 02:35.46 | Gnea | is anyone familiar with any sort of php-based employee timeclock/payroll open source system? |
| 02:35.53 | spoopin | LunarCrisis: I had a drive that moved around like that once.... |
| 02:35.59 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: there are a few dozen of the things |
| 02:36.04 | Shaikoten | Well, it's also saying No Devices Detected at the end of it, but that's probably the same thing. |
| 02:36.05 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: see freshmeat.net |
| 02:36.12 | Shaikoten | That's got the (EE) in front of it |
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| 02:36.21 | LunarCrisis | spoopin: bingo, it worked. why did it suddenly change letters like that? |
| 02:36.23 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: i checked, most of them are silly apps |
| 02:36.44 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: what did you expect? It's PHP... |
| 02:36.50 | spoopin | LunarCrisis: never figured that out. Maybe someone else here knows.. |
| 02:37.10 | Cyanophytes | maher: ops sorry will probably work I was editing wrong script |
| 02:37.23 | nSe | do anybody knows a good text editor in text mode? |
| 02:37.25 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: oh wait, i forgot freshmeat has a hokey search engine... |
| 02:37.37 | debiantonio | /close |
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| 02:37.44 | bob2 | nSe: vim, emacs |
| 02:37.45 | dondelelcaro | nSe: emacs, vi, vim, nano, ed... |
| 02:37.51 | Shaikoten | Would that be due to not having a driver correctly selected? I have an ATI Rage Pro, and I selected ATI drivers. |
| 02:37.51 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: hehe, search for employ and empoloyee are 2 different things ;) |
| 02:37.59 | void | im reconfiguring xserver but its asking me the video card's bus idintifer, its in the AGP slot any help? |
| 02:38.16 | bob2 | void: leave it blank |
| 02:38.24 | Shaikoten | Hmmm, I think Void's having the same problem as me. |
| 02:38.24 | bob2 | I'm like 9000000% certain it tells you to leave it blank |
| 02:38.24 | maher | void: you don't need that unless you have ppc or >1 card - read the docs |
| 02:38.26 | void | bob2: thanks |
| 02:38.28 | Eclipser | nSe, nano is nice for quick editing, but my editor of choise is vim :) |
| 02:38.47 | Shaikoten | What command do I use to reconfigure my X? |
| 02:38.52 | resiak | !drxx Shaikoten #] |
| 02:38.53 | void | maher: thanks |
| 02:38.53 | dpkg | Shaikoten #]: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 02:39.09 | Shaikoten | Thank you much |
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| 02:39.49 | Eclipser | ehheh |
| 02:39.59 | Eclipser | that factoid is quite useful :) |
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| 02:41.02 | K9-Cop | I created a boot disk with mkboot and it loads the correct kernel without problems. Is there anything else I should add to this disk? |
| 02:41.04 | resiak | Eclipser: That's why I made it ;) |
| 02:42.56 | Shaikoten | When it tells me I don't have to enter the card's bus identifier, and to leave it blank, it already has an identifier in there. Do I delete the one that's already there? |
| 02:43.26 | Cyanophytes | Is there a way to have a script goto another part or the script if a file exists? |
| 02:43.32 | K9-Cop | I'll rephrase slightly, if I try to install a new kernel and it goes bad, will the disk I created with mkboot save me? |
| 02:43.56 | resiak | K9-Cop: More to the point, if you install a new kernel which fails, you just use your old kernel. |
| 02:45.47 | Cyanophytes | is there a way to have a sript do if exists xxx file goto xxx? |
| 02:46.07 | maher | Cyanophytes: try google shell programming howto |
| 02:46.21 | Eclipser | or man <whatever shell you're using> |
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| 02:46.35 | cafuego | Cyanophytes: man test |
| 02:46.47 | |XO| | how do i delete files if they are too many when i do "rm *"? |
| 02:46.49 | Cyanophytes | thanks you |
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| 02:47.41 | Eclipser | does rm support regex? |
| 02:47.52 | zignig | |XO|: find | xargs rm |
| 02:47.57 | maher | join sponi |
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| 02:48.27 | RichiH | toresbe: same here. but with other people, it seems to work. the concept is just not my thing, i guess |
| 02:48.39 | |XO| | zignig thanks |
| 02:49.03 | RaCarter | I just installed debian, but now I need to get a gui up, what's the command to install xwindows? |
| 02:49.08 | RaCarter | apt-get install but what's the package name? |
| 02:49.15 | zignig | |XO|: np |
| 02:49.23 | RaCarter | and do I need to install xwindows before gnome? |
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| 02:49.33 | vincent | yes |
| 02:49.39 | maher | RaCarter: try tasksel |
| 02:49.42 | necrite | hi |
| 02:49.55 | RaCarter | I wanted to do it with apt-get if that's possible |
| 02:50.02 | necrite | there is any problem with debian.org site? |
| 02:50.13 | vincent | RaCarter: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 02:50.13 | Eclipser | RaCarter, if you try to apt-get gnome, it'll install xwindows for you :) |
| 02:50.19 | vincent | do you know how to use apt-cache search ? |
| 02:50.50 | RaCarter | I was just playing with apt-cache but I'm not that familiar with it |
| 02:50.51 | shingouz | i get a barf: "Can't locate HTTP/Cookies.pm in @INC (@INC contains: [buncha perl-directories])" apt-cache search perl | grep -i http spews out a lot of stuff, where would i find the needed file? |
| 02:51.52 | RaCarter | apt-get install gnome doesn't work |
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| 02:52.06 | Eclipser | !info gnome |
| 02:52.09 | dpkg | gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section gnome, is optional. Version: 64 (sid), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 16 kB |
| 02:52.13 | Azar | RaCarter http://os.newsforge.com/os/04/12/02/1710208.shtml?tid=2&tid=130 learn apt primer there |
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| 02:52.25 | Eclipser | !info gnome woody |
| 02:52.33 | Eclipser | aha |
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| 02:52.44 | Eclipser | RaCarter, are you using woody perhaps?-p |
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| 02:52.57 | dramen | hello |
| 02:53.03 | dramen | anyone here |
| 02:53.07 | dramen | ??? |
| 02:53.17 | Eclipser | we have always been here |
| 02:53.26 | dramen | very good |
| 02:53.33 | dramen | i have got a question |
| 02:53.39 | Eclipser | most people do |
| 02:53.47 | dramen | now i installed debian on my second pc |
| 02:53.49 | nSe | music never dies... but continues its journey trought each of our lives |
| 02:54.11 | Guerin | i dunno |
| 02:54.16 | dramen | it is debian woody |
| 02:54.17 | Guerin | some music definitely dies |
| 02:54.26 | dramen | 2.2.20 |
| 02:54.33 | Azar | oh oh |
| 02:54.38 | Guerin | dramen: you haven't asked a question yet |
| 02:54.43 | dramen | can i update to debian sarge? |
| 02:54.52 | Guerin | !tell dramen about woody->sarge |
| 02:54.59 | Guerin | !tell dramen about real kernel |
| 02:55.05 | Eclipser | :) |
| 02:55.10 | abrotman | Phated: where are you! |
| 02:55.22 | abrotman | dramen: uname -r |
| 02:55.27 | Eclipser | is there a gnome installing factoid on dpkg? |
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| 02:55.36 | abrotman | !install gnome |
| 02:55.37 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, install gnome is in woody: apt-get install gnome-session gnome-control-center sawfish-gnome ; In sarge and sid: apt-get install gnome |
| 02:55.40 | Eclipser | ah |
| 02:55.41 | Azar | abrotman I think he did not know about 2.4 |
| 02:55.42 | abrotman | !gnome install |
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| 02:55.55 | abrotman | Azar: but 2.2.20 is different from 2.2.20-idepci |
| 02:55.59 | Eclipser | RaCarter, read what dpkg just said :) |
| 02:56.07 | Cyanophytes | ok how do I get "if [ -e /dir/temp.tmp]; then" to goto another line in the script im sure there is a way to add a tag and make this line send it to a tag? |
| 02:56.13 | Eclipser | RaCarter, you'll get very minimal gnome |
| 02:56.22 | Guerin | Cyanophytes: look at making a function |
| 02:56.28 | abrotman | Eclipser: that's not minimal . that's all of it |
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| 02:56.48 | abrotman | oh .. for wody |
| 02:56.50 | abrotman | err woody |
| 02:56.51 | Azar | now he will have to pass hell to compile a new kernel, when woody comes with 2.4 as well |
| 02:56.53 | Eclipser | yeh |
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| 02:57.04 | Eclipser | apt-get install gnome installs everything |
| 02:57.04 | Guerin | Cyanophytes: don't use line numbers or gotos, unless you're making an example of how not to script in the 3rd millennium |
| 02:57.22 | Eclipser | but that metapackage doesn't exist on woody |
| 02:57.40 | Cyanophytes | is there a man for function? |
| 02:57.45 | Eclipser | and I was supposed to go to sleep 6 hours ago... |
| 02:57.53 | Azar | dramen, did you install from a CD or downloaded/burned ? |
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| 02:57.57 | Guerin | !abs howto |
| 02:58.06 | Guerin | !abs |
| 02:58.06 | dpkg | i guess abs is a free graphical spreadsheet designed for Unix operating systems. see http://www.ping.be/bertin/abs.shtml. Advanced Bash Scripting Guide on linuxdoc.org, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ |
| 02:58.20 | Guerin | !abs howto is <reply> see abs guide |
| 02:58.20 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
| 02:58.22 | Eclipser | Cyanophytes, your shell manpage should have it |
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| 02:58.54 | dramen | i installed from cd |
| 02:58.58 | dramen | i downloaded it |
| 02:59.01 | dramen | yes :) |
| 02:59.02 | Azar | oh |
| 02:59.24 | Azar | you should have installed with kernel 2.4 and ext3 |
| 02:59.31 | Mike77_linux | Upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6, which kernel image should I choose? |
| 02:59.38 | Azar | 2.4.18 I guess |
| 02:59.40 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: 2.6.8 |
| 02:59.47 | dramen | no it's 2.2.20 |
| 02:59.52 | dramen | oooh |
| 02:59.56 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: plus your arch, obviously |
| 03:00.04 | dramen | i thought it was for me |
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| 03:00.21 | Guerin | Azar: if you don't know, don't guess, mkay. |
| 03:00.23 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: 386 or 686? |
| 03:00.32 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: do you have a 386 or a 686? |
| 03:00.37 | Eclipser | Mike77_linux, you should know that :) |
| 03:00.40 | dramen | i need some samples of source.list |
| 03:00.41 | bob2 | stupid cgi script |
| 03:00.54 | Azar | Guerin refering to what? |
| 03:00.57 | dramen | which servers shall i use |
| 03:00.57 | RaCarter | startx is the command to start xfree86 server? |
| 03:00.58 | maher | dramen: try apt-setup |
| 03:01.02 | Eclipser | damn |
| 03:01.03 | dramen | okay |
| 03:01.06 | Eclipser | maher was faster |
| 03:01.10 | Guerin | dramen: just change all instances of "woody" or "stable" in your sources.list to "sarge" |
| 03:01.16 | shingouz | RaCarter: yes |
| 03:01.19 | Guerin | apt-setup ain't in woody, iirc |
| 03:01.21 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: Eclipser: That was a stupid question, was it? :) I have a PII 350. Is this a 386? what is a 686? |
| 03:01.28 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: it's a 686 |
| 03:01.29 | maher | Guerin: dramen doh |
| 03:01.30 | Guerin | !686 |
| 03:01.30 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M. |
| 03:01.57 | Mike77_linux | and ?386 |
| 03:02.01 | Mike77_linux | 386? |
| 03:02.03 | Guerin | !386 |
| 03:02.07 | Eclipser | heh |
| 03:02.15 | Eclipser | 386 is very old stuff |
| 03:02.21 | Guerin | 386 is anything older than a pentium pro |
| 03:02.42 | Eclipser | what's for 8086 then?-p |
| 03:02.42 | Guerin | there used to be 486 and 586 sub-arch kernels, but no longer |
| 03:02.47 | Azar | what if you do not have an "intel" ? |
| 03:02.55 | vincent | can you make apt-cache search search for things in 'stable' when your sources.list has 'testing' entires ? |
| 03:02.56 | Guerin | Eclipser: irrelevant, since linux won't run on it |
| 03:03.02 | Guerin | at least, I believe... |
| 03:03.04 | Eclipser | Guerin, a shame |
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| 03:03.09 | dramen | in my sources.list i just have security.debian.org |
| 03:03.23 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: SMP or not SMP? |
| 03:03.40 | Guerin | !smp |
| 03:03.40 | dpkg | i heard smp is (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/smp-faq/ |
| 03:03.48 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: you decide |
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| 03:04.24 | maher | Mike77_linux: hint: count number of processors in your machine... |
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| 03:04.38 | Guerin | dramen: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main |
| 03:04.40 | Mike77_linux | What about SMP for HT processors? |
| 03:04.56 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: i don't believe there were any HypeThreaded p2s |
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| 03:05.33 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: yes, I was thinking of another PIV that I have |
| 03:06.10 | kenboo | SMP kernel runs on HT processor. |
| 03:06.18 | kenboo | you'll see two cpu. |
| 03:06.19 | kenboo | s |
| 03:06.25 | Mike77_linux | Thanks |
| 03:06.48 | kenboo | but i'm not sure if SMP kernel knows optimization for HT |
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| 03:08.03 | Mike77_linux | kenboo: actually I don't care much about optimization. Linux on my PII is running faster than Windoze in my PIV HT. |
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| 03:08.35 | Azar | dramen download and use netselect : apt-get install netselect |
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| 03:08.55 | Eclipser | I already told him what to do :) |
| 03:09.04 | Azar | oh I was away |
| 03:09.17 | Eclipser | and I was talking to him in private because I flooded a bit |
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| 03:11.16 | Mike77_linux | Do I need to run modconf after updating the kernel? |
| 03:11.33 | Eclipser | umm, no? |
| 03:12.00 | Mike77_linux | The configurattion is shared between kernels?? |
| 03:12.22 | RichiH | Mike77_linux: yes, of course |
| 03:12.24 | Azar | you need to update your lilo.conf |
| 03:12.31 | RichiH | Mike77_linux: if you mean the modules |
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| 03:12.54 | nSe | do you guys know any good archive manager ? |
| 03:13.05 | Eclipser | file-roller ? |
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| 03:13.25 | Mike77_linux | for example, I wanted to switch from OSS to ALSA with 2.6, will I get alsa with 2.6 or will it use OSS from the old 2.4? |
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| 03:13.39 | maher | Mike77_linux: debian kernels come with alsa |
| 03:14.16 | Eclipser | Azar, I think apt-get'd kernels update lilo automatically |
| 03:14.38 | Mike77_linux | maher: my current kernel has alsa installed but it is using oss (AFAIK) |
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| 03:15.27 | maher | Mike77_linux: alsa has an oss bw compatible mode - if you're using a debian kernel just install it and see if it works |
| 03:15.27 | Azar | Eclipser, that would be nice... but I wasn't so lucky |
| 03:16.06 | Eclipser | Azar, I've never actually used a prepackaged kernel, I've just told someone how to use it before and it did update lilo on the run... if I recall :) |
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| 03:16.46 | Mike77_linux | maher: I was told alsa cannot live together with oss. Only one has to drive the sound card. Am I wrong here? I installed alsa, but it doesn't drive my sound card. |
| 03:17.08 | Azar | I allways had to go and tell lilo the default boot as well as keeping the old kernels handy aside |
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| 03:17.12 | maher | Mike77_linux: what kernel are you currently running? |
| 03:17.17 | Mike77_linux | 2.4 |
| 03:17.20 | drini | check it's not "muted" |
| 03:17.22 | drini | using aumix or kmix |
| 03:17.28 | maher | Mike77_linux: did you just install a debian kernel? |
| 03:17.37 | Mike77_linux | haven't rebooted yet |
| 03:17.45 | Mike77_linux | yes, a 2.6 |
| 03:17.53 | maher | Mike77_linux: use the new kernel and see if ot does what you want |
| 03:18.01 | Mike77_linux | aumix works, but amixer does not |
| 03:18.19 | Eclipser | Mike77_linux, boot first, ask questions after that :) |
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| 03:18.25 | Mike77_linux | ok, rebooting now. brb |
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| 03:19.06 | blue_ | how do you see hard drive space free and used and total? |
| 03:19.13 | Eclipser | df -h |
| 03:19.14 | peterS | blue_: df |
| 03:19.19 | blue_ | thanks |
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| 03:20.02 | badmonster | hi |
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| 03:20.09 | badmonster | a little question |
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| 03:20.24 | badmonster | how can I connect a 2wire router to usb??? |
| 03:20.34 | deadcat | badmonster: plug it in |
| 03:20.45 | badmonster | ok, configure it! |
| 03:20.52 | deadcat | no clue |
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| 03:21.06 | Tabitha | hi all.. is there a way to (easily, automatically) install any missing dependencies when building a package from source? |
| 03:21.23 | resiak | Tabitha: apt-get build-dep pkgname |
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| 03:21.25 | Tabitha | i.e. dpkg-buildpackage -installwhateverismissing ... man dpkg-buildpackage doesn't seem to help |
| 03:21.41 | Azar | Tabitha like resiak said |
| 03:21.41 | barretj | is there any program which will allow me to print a pdf file 4 pages to a page? |
| 03:21.42 | Tabitha | resiak, thanks I'll try that. |
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| 03:22.00 | resiak | barretj: Does xpdf not do that? *has no idea* |
| 03:22.03 | deadcat | resiak: do you apt-get source pkgname first? |
| 03:22.12 | barretj | no, i dont see any option in xpdf for it |
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| 03:22.28 | barretj | i also dont see any option in acroread for it either |
| 03:22.53 | maher | barretj: pdf2ps, psnup |
| 03:23.03 | resiak | deadcat: Either order. You have to do apt-get build-dep as root, since it just gets the binary build-deps. I'm not sure if it gets the running deps, though. apt-get source can be done whenever you like, as anyone, and it just happily dumps the files in your current directory. |
| 03:23.04 | Tabitha | I'm attempting to create a php4.3.11 backport using the source of a 4.3.10 backport as a template... probably a recipe for disaster, but how else to learn? :P |
| 03:23.23 | badmonster | I was connect the 2wore router and the acm module has charged, but I dont know what thing put in the interfaces... |
| 03:23.51 | badmonster | like eth0... |
| 03:23.51 | maher | Tabitha: have you checked backports.org - someone else may hevae done this |
| 03:23.51 | barretj | maher: thanks |
| 03:23.58 | deadcat | resiak: cool. i was compiling leafpad on ppc. had to install loads of devs and shits |
| 03:24.16 | resiak | deadcat: Install shit no more! |
| 03:24.26 | Tabitha | maher, I checked apt-get.org and the original dotdeb.org where I got the 4.3.10 |
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| 03:26.10 | Tabitha | maher, doesn't look like backports.org has any php4 packages |
| 03:26.32 | Eclipser | how about apt-get.org? |
| 03:26.38 | maher | Tabitha: build-dep isn't supported by all packages - I assume you have build-essential - sometimes youjust have to iterate fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage till you get evrything... |
| 03:26.39 | Eclipser | ah |
| 03:26.41 | Eclipser | sorry : |
| 03:26.42 | Eclipser | ) |
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| 03:27.33 | Markrian | God I love debian... |
| 03:27.35 | Eclipser | I wonder how much diskspace would require to install everything in apt |
| 03:27.37 | Tabitha | maher, well for now it's installing a bunch of stuff.. I'm attempting to compile this on a sarge machine for use on woody |
| 03:28.04 | maher | Tabitha: you probably want to compile on woody for woody |
| 03:28.29 | Tabitha | maher, one would think.. but... where do I get all the updated libs and such it wants? |
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| 03:29.27 | maher | Tabitha: yeah - that's a royal pain - how badly do you need this? sarge will probably be stable in a couple of months |
| 03:29.38 | Mike77_linux | I'm back with 2.6 and alsa down :s, but I'm going to do some reading (rtfm) and try to figure out what is going on. |
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| 03:30.58 | maher | Mike77_linux: alsa isn't working? |
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| 03:31.06 | jair_11 | guys, I am trying to understand what is exacly ISC BIND |
| 03:31.11 | olaan | does steamcast work on debian? |
| 03:31.18 | jair_11 | it does not come with the Linux OS already? |
| 03:31.35 | peterS | jair_11: yes, it does. why do you want it? |
| 03:31.42 | jair_11 | I also think that BIND is a dns server application? |
| 03:31.48 | Tabitha | maher, 4.3.11 was released with some security updates and I need greater than 4.3.8 for an app we're running.. so while I could hold off, I'd like to get an idea of how to upgrade myself if I'm going to be dependent on a non-standard program rather than wait for whoever is creating these backports to get around to it. Admittedly, this isn't the worst php vulnerability, but it could have been worse. |
| 03:31.51 | peterS | jair_11: yes, that's exactly what ISC BIND is |
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| 03:31.54 | maher | jair_11: its not installed by default but bind is in debian |
| 03:31.54 | Mike77_linux | maher: for example, I run alsamixergui and get "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device' |
| 03:32.09 | peterS | jair_11: the package you want, if you want it at all, is called 'bind9' |
| 03:32.18 | jair_11 | peterS, I am trying to implement a samba-ldap using it as a prmary domain controller |
| 03:32.22 | Mike77_linux | amixer gives the same error |
| 03:32.29 | jair_11 | bind9 cool |
| 03:32.36 | rebecca__ | are there any programs in the debian repositories that can be used to backup a dual layer dvd to a single layer dvd. (much like dvdshrink on windows) ?? |
| 03:32.37 | jair_11 | peterS, thank you |
| 03:32.41 | peterS | jair_11: a Windows domain has nothing to do with a DNS domain. until Windows 2000. so you probably don't need BIND. |
| 03:33.12 | jair_11 | yes all the clients I will be serving are xps |
| 03:33.16 | jair_11 | professiona; |
| 03:33.20 | maher | Tabitha: afaik woody php isn't vuln to most of the problems - i looked at trying to backoprt the fixes and it was too much work |
| 03:33.27 | jair_11 | professional and some libranets |
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| 03:33.33 | jair_11 | also debians sarge |
| 03:33.36 | maher | dondelelcaro: i bet its a fan dying! |
| 03:33.36 | olaan | does steamcast work on debian? |
| 03:33.45 | peterS | jair_11: however, samba mostly implements an NT4 domain, not a Windows 2000 Active Directory thing |
| 03:33.56 | jair_11 | peterS, correct |
| 03:34.05 | Tabitha | maher, well this is php 4.3.10 I'm using on woody, not 4.1.2 |
| 03:34.06 | jair_11 | that is what I am trying to implement |
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| 03:34.47 | misfitx7 | would a usb 2.0 pcmcia card work out of the box on a 2.6.8 system? |
| 03:35.02 | jair_11 | peterS, I want to change all my windows configuration on the back end of my network |
| 03:35.04 | peterS | jair_11: NT4, and thus samba, does not use DNS for much, if anything, in its domain controller spec |
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| 03:35.14 | bltzfsck | i can't find a version of nvidia-glx that matches my version of nvidia-kernel |
| 03:35.32 | jair_11 | peterS, have you ever work with samba? |
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| 03:35.45 | peterS | jair_11: you could say that |
| 03:35.51 | bltzfsck | i'm using sarge, but i read that the latest nvidia-glx is only in unstable |
| 03:36.00 | dondelelcaro | maher: hrm... actually, it seems to be a harddrive... |
| 03:36.07 | jair_11 | peterS, I am followinf this tutorial: http://www.idealx.org/prj/samba/smbldap-howto.en.html#htoc1 |
| 03:36.18 | maher | Tabitha: and the libs you used for 4.3.10 won't work with .11? |
| 03:36.29 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.31 | bltzfsck | i uncommented the unstable refs in my sources.list, and ran apt-get update, but still couldn't find it |
| 03:36.36 | jair_11 | peterS, and in the global parameters they are saying that you can use BIND for dns |
| 03:36.50 | Tabitha | maher, I didn't build the 4.3.10 version... that I got from dotdeb.org |
| 03:36.51 | maher | misfitx7: might do - one worked for me |
| 03:37.05 | jair_11 | peterS, but I think that I can have the server and the clients running even if I do not have a dns or internet connection |
| 03:37.08 | jair_11 | right |
| 03:37.13 | peterS | jair_11: yes, you can. DNS is still almost entirely independent of Samba, though. you don't need it. if you want to have a local DNS server on your network, you can use BIND. if you don't want one, you don't have to have one. |
| 03:37.19 | maher | Tabitha: did you need to install newer libs? |
| 03:37.36 | jair_11 | peterS, I will need one right |
| 03:37.44 | jair_11 | peterS, at least one |
| 03:37.51 | peterS | one what? |
| 03:38.04 | jair_11 | peterS, because I will have a website, I will be adding new computers to the domain |
| 03:38.07 | Tabitha | maher, well I have no idea :) If I do it on woody, I guess I do? |
| 03:38.12 | jair_11 | peterS, one dns server |
| 03:38.24 | peterS | jair_11: your windows domain and your DNS setup are independent |
| 03:38.28 | jair_11 | peterS, I will be using a Linux DHCP server too. |
| 03:38.44 | peterS | jair_11: if you need a local DNS server, install one. but don't get it confused with your Samba setup. they have almost nothing to do with each other. EOF. |
| 03:38.46 | jair_11 | peterS, I do not want to heard windows anymore please . |
| 03:38.52 | jair_11 | peterS, kidding |
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| 03:39.04 | jair_11 | peterS, I want to remove all the windows servers |
| 03:39.10 | timmeh | can someone please explain how to cahnge the date? |
| 03:39.23 | timmeh | like an example would be awsome |
| 03:39.24 | peterS | timmeh: with the 'date' command. or with 'ntpdate' |
| 03:39.28 | jair_11 | peterS, ohhh ok |
| 03:39.29 | maher | Tabitha: looking at dotdeb they seem to have at most three updateed libraries - do you have a spare stable machine / chroot to experiment on? try building.11 and telling it to use the current libs |
| 03:39.43 | jair_11 | peterS, so I will continue this tutorial then |
| 03:39.45 | peterS | timmeh: I use 'ntpdate' myself, since it pulls down the correct time from an Internet server that is synchronised with a reliable time source |
| 03:39.53 | timmeh | awsome |
| 03:39.57 | Tabitha | maher, I've got a machine I could install a chroot'ed woody on. |
| 03:40.21 | jair_11 | peterS, so i gues I will have to read about the functioning of the DNS on a network |
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| 03:40.32 | peterS | jair_11: yes, if you need local DNS to work. |
| 03:40.38 | Azar | bltzfsck: you need the nvidia drivers sources in your apt sources list |
| 03:40.41 | peterS | jair_11: I mean, without using your ISP's DNS servers |
| 03:40.47 | jair_11 | ohhh |
| 03:40.49 | Tabitha | maher, I did a file comparison with 4.3.10 from php.net and the 4.3.10 source from dotdeb and then migrated the same changes over to 4.3.11 and moved in the debian folder ... cheating perhaps ;) |
| 03:40.59 | jair_11 | peterS, then yes I will need the dns of the ISP |
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| 03:41.10 | jair_11 | because my network will need to have access to internet |
| 03:41.12 | maher | Tabitha: well - see if works... :) |
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| 03:41.27 | peterS | jair_11: the question is whether you can use the DNS servers from your ISP on all your local machines, or if you want to have a local DNS server as well. and that is something I can't answer for you |
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| 03:42.16 | jair_11 | peterS, but normally the dsn server on the network is "ohouse.local" |
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| 03:42.21 | timmeh | 3 Apr 22:42:09 ntpdate[2533]: no servers can be used, exiting |
| 03:42.23 | jair_11 | it is on a windows 2003 server |
| 03:42.30 | Tabitha | can i apt-get the basic system or do I need to download it? |
| 03:42.38 | Tabitha | er.. base |
| 03:42.45 | jair_11 | peterS, the web site is www.ohouse.org |
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| 03:43.02 | peterS | jair_11: I told you what you need to know. you can make your own decisions about how you wish to have DNS set up |
| 03:43.13 | jair_11 | peterS, ok |
| 03:44.02 | jair_11 | you are not telling me anything then? what I need to know is if my domain name on the internet is www.ohouse.org then that is the dns of my ISP |
| 03:44.03 | owh | Just did an apt-get dist-upgrade, all good, except that Apache now segfaults. An strace shows the last line before the segfault is: stat64("/", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 --- any suggestions? I've been browsing bugtrack with little enlightenment. |
| 03:44.25 | maher | Tabitha: debootstrap |
| 03:44.32 | calin | is there some sort of x program for apache i can acquire via apt/sf.net? |
| 03:44.36 | Tabitha | ahh.. that's what it's called.. thank you |
| 03:44.41 | peterS | jair_11: if you are running your own Internet domain, you must have multiple nameservers for that. your registrar can provide more information about that. |
| 03:45.09 | jair_11 | ohh |
| 03:45.09 | jair_11 | ok |
| 03:45.20 | timmeh | 3 Apr 22:42:09 ntpdate[2533]: no servers can be used, exiting |
| 03:45.23 | timmeh | how can i fix that? |
| 03:45.25 | jair_11 | corerct |
| 03:45.34 | jair_11 | ok |
| 03:45.43 | cartel_ | timmeh: ntpdate ntp.nsp.co.nz |
| 03:45.45 | jair_11 | I will ahve to read some couple of documentations |
| 03:45.56 | peterS | timmeh: what NTP server(s) did you put in as the answer to the question you were asked at ntpdate installation? |
| 03:46.02 | calin | timmeh: `apt-get install --reinstall ntpdate`? |
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| 03:46.14 | dramen | does anybody know how i can install kde |
| 03:46.15 | timmeh | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.21 | calin | !kde-install |
| 03:46.25 | dramen | i made update and upgrade |
| 03:46.31 | calin | !install kde |
| 03:46.31 | dpkg | install kde is probably In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
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| 03:46.33 | peterS | timmeh: what NTP server(s) did you put in as the answer to the question you were asked at ntpdate installation? |
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| 03:46.55 | calin | dramen: same way you update and upgrade all debian packages |
| 03:46.56 | timmeh | ntpdate didnt ask me for one |
| 03:46.58 | timmeh | so tahts prob why |
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| 03:47.18 | timmeh | i used the apt-get install ntpupdate |
| 03:47.25 | timmeh | meh |
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| 03:47.27 | timmeh | i used the apt-get install ntpdate |
| 03:47.29 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 03:47.37 | owh | timmeh: dpkg-reconfigure ntpdate should ask any install questions. |
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| 03:47.40 | dramen | apt-get install kde ???? |
| 03:47.55 | calin | dramen: sure, for a crapload of packages |
| 03:48.02 | calin | i suggest kde-core |
| 03:48.03 | timmeh | ok thnx |
| 03:48.05 | peterS | timmeh: or edit /etc/default/ntpdate and set NTPSERVERS="au.pool.ntp.org" |
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| 03:48.14 | Tabitha | hmm. http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/debootstrap isn't loading.. p.d.o down? |
| 03:48.19 | owh | peterS: Yeah, that too :) |
| 03:48.28 | SexyKen | How can I make tomcat run as root in debian? |
| 03:48.45 | calin | i have a problem where my dns isn't resolving correctly, what all should i check to see wher it's going wrong? |
| 03:48.48 | dramen | oh my god |
| 03:48.51 | dramen | really |
| 03:48.57 | dramen | it's great |
| 03:49.11 | owh | Anyone got any suggestions on how to figure out what's going on with a segfaulting Apache? |
| 03:49.19 | calin | owh: google |
| 03:49.25 | owh | Sigh |
| 03:49.35 | peterS | owh: weird - ntpdate doesn't support debconf and doesn't appear to ask any questions |
| 03:49.39 | owh | calin: Yes, I am aware of the phenomenon :-) |
| 03:49.57 | calin | owh: it's amazing isn't it? |
| 03:49.57 | SexyKen | Anyone know how to make tomcat run as root? |
| 03:50.02 | maher | peterS: they changes it to "just work" with no questions |
| 03:50.08 | owh | peterS: I recall being prompted for a server at one stage, it was a while ago. |
| 03:50.16 | peterS | maher: I see no evidence of that either, though |
| 03:50.22 | owh | maher: Just work, is that like Plug and Play? |
| 03:50.38 | maher | owh: yeah - but it just works |
| 03:50.52 | owh | maher: Well, sometimes it does :-) |
| 03:50.55 | timmeh | what time do most international servers go byw |
| 03:51.06 | timmeh | central gmt? |
| 03:51.13 | Kvant | utc |
| 03:51.16 | BigBlockO_ | anyone have any idea why 5,15,25,35,45,55 * * * * /home/nicholsc/synclosure/runscript.sh would not be running in my crontab? |
| 03:51.21 | timmeh | because theres events on my server that happen at certain times |
| 03:51.40 | timmeh | utc? |
| 03:51.59 | owh | calin: I have in fact used the tool with little success, seeing that all I have to go on is a segfault and only with phpMyAdmin and my own large PHP application, but I have no way of collecting any more data to refine my google explanations, hence my visit to #debian. |
| 03:52.13 | maher | peterS: grep the changelog |
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| 03:52.23 | misfitx7 | where are usb devices usually mounted? |
| 03:52.33 | peterS | BigBlockO_: it should be. cron jobs run without a controlling tty, and with a default path. check to make sure your script really *isn't* running, as opposed to running and failing |
| 03:52.34 | calin | owh: why not search for the error text? |
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| 03:52.54 | owh | calin: There is no error, zero sized reply with a segfault in the log. |
| 03:53.14 | maher | owh: use debsums to check for bin corruption |
| 03:53.24 | BigBlockO_ | better question |
| 03:53.25 | owh | maher: excellent suggestion! |
| 03:53.32 | owh | maher: Tah |
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| 03:53.39 | BigBlockO_ | what would i use to make the script send its output to a file |
| 03:54.00 | maher | BigBlockO_: is it executable? cron should mail you errors if it runs |
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| 03:54.08 | maher | BigBlockO_: look in the logs as well |
| 03:54.19 | BigBlockO_ | k |
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| 03:55.03 | Mike77_linux | From alsa: If you have the old "sound.o" module active, you need to deactivate it. How can I do this? Is this the oss stuff? |
| 03:55.36 | peterS | Mike77_linux: yes, it is. rmmod sound |
| 03:55.38 | BigBlockO_ | it was previously giving me errors |
| 03:55.46 | BigBlockO_ | but it wasn't sending output to a file |
| 03:56.00 | BigBlockO_ | /home/nicholsc/synclosure/gettorrents.sh /home/nicholsc/synclosure/gettorrentsoutput.txt &2>1 |
| 03:56.05 | BigBlockO_ | that was the line previously |
| 03:56.25 | BigBlockO_ | but it was sending the output to my mail |
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| 03:56.37 | poonj | hey guys, where can I configure gnome to enable num lock everytime I boot up the computer? |
| 03:56.38 | BigBlockO_ | rather than to the file gettorrentsoutput.txt |
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| 03:57.17 | Mike77_linux | peterS: Error, sound module in use by sb_lib, uart401. So? Who is using my sound? |
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| 03:57.33 | peterS | Mike77_linux: you have some sound drivers loaded |
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| 03:58.09 | jair_11 | peterS, let me see if I understand |
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| 03:58.24 | jair_11 | peterS, I read abot the DNS serevr and name resolution |
| 03:58.27 | owh | BigBlockO_: That example line is missing a redirect: /home/nicholsc/synclosure/gettorrents.sh > /home/nicholsc/synclosure/gettorrentsoutput.txt &2>1 |
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| 03:58.34 | jair_11 | peterS, for example in my case |
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| 03:58.45 | Huey | how does firefox keep track of if another instance is launched? |
| 03:58.51 | jair_11 | peterS, I have a ISP earthlink |
| 03:59.00 | BigBlockO_ | what does the &2>1 do? |
| 03:59.01 | Huey | i can't start firefox with the default profile, because it thinks it's still running, but 'pgrep firefox' yields nothing |
| 03:59.14 | jair_11 | peterS, this people provide me internet and the DNS server is provided from them |
| 03:59.18 | Mike77_linux | How can I see which driver is using my sound card and KILL it? |
| 03:59.22 | BigBlockO_ | i thought that was what directed it from the script to the output file |
| 03:59.35 | jair_11 | peterS, it is the one they ask me to type when I am doing a authentication PPPoe |
| 03:59.35 | owh | BigBlockO_: It redirects the error output to the same place as the normal output. Eg, stderr and stdout have the same destination |
| 03:59.37 | jair_11 | right |
| 03:59.56 | BigBlockO_ | ahh |
| 04:00.02 | BigBlockO_ | cool |
| 04:00.07 | peterS | jair_11: sounds correct |
| 04:00.07 | BigBlockO_ | so i need a > in between the two |
| 04:00.22 | jair_11 | peterS, and they normally give you 2 the primary and the secundary dns ip addresses. |
| 04:00.28 | owh | BigBlockO_: Well, a > redirects stdout somewhere. |
| 04:00.31 | Guerin | Huey: try deleting your .mozilla/firefox dir |
| 04:00.43 | Guerin | Huey: or, more subtly: look for a lockfile in there |
| 04:01.07 | BigBlockO_ | cool |
| 04:01.10 | jair_11 | peterS, so If I configure a DNS server this will resolve the name of the computers to connect to them instead using the IP addresses. |
| 04:01.28 | Guerin | Huey: .mozilla/firefox/default.hug/lock |
| 04:02.16 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: are you running kde or gnome? |
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| 04:02.21 | peterS | jair_11: if all you need to do is look up internet domains, and your ISP already gives you name servers (which they always do), you don't need a local DNS server |
| 04:02.45 | _jorgp | what is the ETA of OOo 2 into unstable? |
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| 04:02.58 | jair_11 | peterS, but then why the server on the current network have a dns? it is a windows 2003 server |
| 04:03.00 | Guerin | _jorgp: is it even released yet? |
| 04:03.07 | _jorgp | I thought so |
| 04:03.12 | jair_11 | peterS, I think is to find the computers on the network |
| 04:03.21 | peterS | jair_11: because windows 2003 implements Active Directory, which primarily uses DNS rather than NetBIOS |
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| 04:03.27 | jair_11 | I will need it to find the Linux and windows clients? |
| 04:03.34 | jair_11 | ohh |
| 04:03.34 | jair_11 | ok |
| 04:03.35 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: none. Windowmaker. |
| 04:03.51 | Guerin | _jorgp: in any case, packaging oo.o fopr debian is really hard work, since they have to hack out a lot of java bullshit which relies on non-free libs |
| 04:03.56 | jair_11 | peterS, so I will need to concer in the netbios instead DNS |
| 04:04.04 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: lsof /dev/dsp might do it |
| 04:04.11 | jair_11 | because I will not been using a active directory |
| 04:04.11 | Huey | Guerin: yeah, removing the lock file worked. thanks. |
| 04:04.18 | _jorgp | Guerin: looks like just the beta is out |
| 04:04.33 | peterS | jair_11: netbios is a much simpler standard for name resolution on a local network. it is mostly plug-n-play. although you *can* use a server to aid it, it does not require one. |
| 04:04.34 | jair_11 | so how or what technology i should use to log in and to add computers on the network domain? |
| 04:04.37 | Guerin | _jorgp: in that case, /msg dpkg wir |
| 04:04.52 | jair_11 | peterS, ohhh k |
| 04:05.06 | peterS | jair_11: Samba implements NetBIOS, including the name server part, which is known as "NBNS" or "WINS" depending on who you talk to |
| 04:05.09 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: lsof returned nothing. |
| 04:05.35 | mwilson | ah, much better. |
| 04:05.42 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: it might just be that the driver ain't correctly loaded |
| 04:05.53 | mwilson | You'd think it would be easy to find a decent set of icons for a high-profile project like OOo. |
| 04:06.01 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: are you still using that isa sb? |
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| 04:06.33 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: yeah. It's too late to go to CompUSA :) |
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| 04:06.46 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: alsa or oss? |
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| 04:06.59 | _jorgp | Guerin: yeah |
| 04:07.00 | jair_11 | peterS, so by default samba will let me find and refer to the computers using their netbios name |
| 04:07.01 | matus | holas... hay alguien? |
| 04:07.04 | bltzfsck | how do i find nvidia-glx-1.0.7174? |
| 04:07.16 | Guerin | matus: #debian-es, por favor |
| 04:07.17 | BigBlockO_ | thanks owh |
| 04:07.19 | mwilson | Guerin: Did you read this --> http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/03/22/204244&tid=93 |
| 04:07.24 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: apparently I have both |
| 04:07.30 | owh | BigBlockO_: Pleasure. |
| 04:07.31 | bltzfsck | that's the version of nvidia-kernel that i have |
| 04:07.33 | peterS | jair_11: correct |
| 04:07.43 | mwilson | Guerin: About Java in OOo? Not a bad article, especially considering the dribble that NewsForge normally puts out. |
| 04:07.45 | prodope | what package is ncurses-devel? |
| 04:07.48 | matus | alguein sabe si se pueden enviar emails por consola? |
| 04:08.08 | prodope | trying to ugrade kernel, but can't make menuconfig without ncurses-devel... can;t find it with apt-cache search |
| 04:08.27 | jair_11 | peterS, so then i will ne feel worry about dns |
| 04:08.41 | jetx | all lies |
| 04:08.48 | jetx | !br |
| 04:08.57 | peterS | jair_11: to make this process happen more smoothly, put something like this in your dhcpd.conf (DHCP server) file: option netbios-name-servers a.b.c.d; |
| 04:08.57 | jetx | ~br |
| 04:08.58 | apt | [br] Brazil, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 04:09.01 | jair_11 | peterS, can you check the how-to requeriments: http://www.idealx.org/prj/samba/smbldap-howto.en.html#htoc1 |
| 04:09.05 | peterS | jair_11: and in smb.conf (for samba): wins support = yes |
| 04:09.15 | peterS | jair_11: no, that's your job |
| 04:09.17 | Mike77_linux | matus: mail |
| 04:09.17 | jair_11 | ok |
| 04:09.21 | jair_11 | peterS, cool |
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| 04:09.25 | jetx | o |
| 04:09.28 | jetx | ~es |
| 04:09.29 | apt | Para los usuarios debian de habla hispana que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #debian-es -- Spanish-speaking debian users requiring support, please join #debian-es |
| 04:09.31 | Guerin | mwilson: yeah, i saw that on /. a week or so ago |
| 04:09.44 | jair_11 | peterS, is because I have everything they said except the dns server |
| 04:09.51 | jetx | matus: mutt |
| 04:09.51 | jair_11 | and don't think I need it |
| 04:09.58 | matus | voy a ver |
| 04:10.02 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: that's your problem, then. Remove all the oss modules, all the sound modules which don't begin with snd- |
| 04:10.02 | mwilson | Guerin: slashcrap linked something that wasn't complete bullsh*t? What's the world coming to? |
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| 04:10.16 | jetx | prodope: if they didn't tell you, libncurses5-dev |
| 04:10.16 | Guerin | mwilson: in fairness, the comments were still completely worthless |
| 04:10.37 | mwilson | Guerin: Typical moron whiners? |
| 04:10.37 | bytecolor | is there a linux util for stuffit archives? |
| 04:10.43 | mwilson | bytecolor: Sort of. |
| 04:10.54 | prodope | jetx: thanks |
| 04:10.55 | Guerin | mwilson: yeah, pretty much |
| 04:10.56 | bytecolor | that good huh |
| 04:11.27 | Guerin | it does piss me off rather that the idiots of Sun have got their hooks strongly enough into oo.o that it's based on java |
| 04:11.27 | mwilson | bytecolor: Aladdin's development on Stuffit has kept moving... the FOSS unstuff tool... hasn't. |
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| 04:11.49 | mwilson | Guerin: You do realize, of course that it was based on Java when Sun bought the thing. |
| 04:11.52 | bytecolor | ahh, it's not that important, was just wanting to look as some mac code from freshmeat |
| 04:11.56 | Guerin | and that's going to mean packaging it sanely for debian will be even more of a mission than it has been previously |
| 04:11.56 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: I have a hundred commands to manipulate hardware. Which one should I use to remove oss modules? if you have a link to any 'Linux hardware for dummies' let me know :)) |
| 04:12.00 | drini | AFPL I like too |
| 04:12.05 | Guerin | mwilson: sure, but it's growing MORESO, not less. |
| 04:12.14 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: modprove -r |
| 04:12.20 | Guerin | s/prove/probe/ |
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| 04:12.42 | maher | Guerin: i bet dealing with java will be easier than porting the asm to ppc |
| 04:12.54 | Guerin | maher: heh |
| 04:12.57 | jetx | whoa... the lids of gallon water jugs fit film canisters pretty good |
| 04:12.58 | bytecolor | I guess OS-X took the unix name, but not the philosophy |
| 04:13.13 | mwilson | bytecolor: Whatever that's supposed to mean. |
| 04:13.13 | Guerin | bytecolor: did it take the name? |
| 04:13.23 | fooz | heh |
| 04:13.30 | mwilson | bytecolor: Apparently you've never touched or even seen OS X. |
| 04:13.32 | owh | maher: Well, after running a debsums I'm none the wiser. All appears fine. |
| 04:13.33 | Guerin | well, it does end in X |
| 04:13.50 | peterS | as does ActiveX |
| 04:13.57 | Guerin | peterS: it must be unix! |
| 04:14.01 | fooz | OS X is just a continuation of OpenStep.. in both cases, UNIX just facilitates the running of the environment |
| 04:14.05 | Guerin | a really active one, I bet |
| 04:14.06 | mwilson | bytecolor: Gods only know what your comment means, otherwise. |
| 04:14.10 | jetx | you nutz |
| 04:14.16 | maher | owh: if strace doesn't help then there's not much i can tell you - you could build debug builds and run gdb on them |
| 04:14.27 | owh | maher: Heheh. |
| 04:14.31 | owh | maher: :-| |
| 04:15.05 | mwilson | bytecolor: You do understand that Apple has nothing to do with Stuffit. |
| 04:15.20 | jetx | eve ate apple |
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| 04:17.40 | owh | Ok, if I may attempt to do this sideways. Apache segfaults only in the current phpMyAdmin and in the current version of my PHP app. The previous version does not crash. Any attempt at putting debugging statements does not appear to assist, seeing that the output never gets to me. I can see a progression of included files, but the actual segfault happens in the main document which is trivial. Apart from recompiling with debug symbol |
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| 04:18.18 | kruzi | heyas hey all im doing some bash scripting and from command line want to add a user to 2 groups. im doing /usr/sbin/useradd -g group1 -G group2 username but its not liking it and thats the way from man i can see how to do it? |
| 04:18.59 | fooz | kruzi, man adduser |
| 04:18.59 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: Geez! There are thousand of sound modules in /lib/.../kernel/sound ! >> /core /drivers /i2c /isa /oss /pci /pcmcia /synth /usb, which ones to delete ? |
| 04:19.06 | edward_ | just installed debian on my ppc.... (g5) |
| 04:19.07 | owh | Wyzard: It lost a connection earlier. |
| 04:19.22 | edward_ | nice to know it all works fine.. |
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| 04:19.33 | fooz | kruzi, useradd only creates users. adduser does that and also can add users to groups |
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| 04:20.24 | Wyzard | Mike77_linux: Don't delete the modules... just don't load them into the kernel |
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| 04:20.47 | Wyzard | Mike77_linux: "remove" in the sense of rmmod |
| 04:20.55 | Mike77_linux | Wyzard: how can I know which ones are loded and which ones are not? |
| 04:20.56 | dondelelcaro | yes folks, dpkg will return in a bit... in the meantime, feel free to use apt or ravenbird |
| 04:21.00 | Wyzard | Mike77_linux: lsmod |
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| 04:21.29 | Mike77_linux | Wyzard: trying now. |
| 04:22.14 | bltzfsck | anybody know a good source for recent nvidia-glx package? |
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| 04:22.29 | mwilson | bltzfsck: There's something wrong with the Debian-packaged one, of course. |
| 04:22.44 | bltzfsck | you know a work-around? |
| 04:22.47 | pipeline | bltzfsck: people.debian.org/~rdonald |
| 04:22.52 | mwilson | Guerin: Surely you didn't actually tell Mike77_linux to run around deleting random files... |
| 04:23.00 | pipeline | bltzfsck: He's just a crusty troll. There's tons of things wrong with the nvidia packaged one. Pick your poison. They're both painful. |
| 04:23.03 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: mwilson is being sarcastic... what's wrong with the one you have? |
| 04:23.04 | mwilson | bltzfsck: A work-around for...? |
| 04:23.04 | bltzfsck | i can't get the version number to match the nvidia-kernel i have |
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| 04:23.41 | fooz | why do people have so much trouble with nvidia and ATI drivers? |
| 04:23.44 | mwilson | So build the kernel module that goes with the glx package, like normal people do. |
| 04:23.46 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: nvidia-kernel is built from nvidia-kernel-source... if your nvidia-glx has been upgraded, nvidia-kernel-source has been upgraded too, and you need to rebuild nvidia-kernel from it |
| 04:24.04 | fooz | not saying I like or approve of them, but they've never given me problems |
| 04:24.15 | bltzfsck | the nvidia-kernel i have is later than the nvidia-glx i'm able to get |
| 04:24.26 | mwilson | I think he believes that. |
| 04:24.32 | bltzfsck | does that make sense? |
| 04:24.32 | Wyzard | fooz: The 7xxx nvidia drivers have been hanging X |
| 04:24.43 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: What are the actual version numbers? |
| 04:24.48 | Guerin | mwilson: um, nope... not me. |
| 04:24.50 | mwilson | bltzfsck: Do you run testing, or unstable? |
| 04:25.03 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: I just removed the sound modules. |
| 04:25.05 | fooz | I use the ATI ones.. or, did |
| 04:25.09 | bltzfsck | kernel is 1.0.7174 glx is 1.0.6629 |
| 04:25.26 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: woah... i meant remove them from the currently running kernel, not delete them from your hard drive |
| 04:25.28 | fooz | I switched back to my G450 a month ago because closed source is evil |
| 04:25.38 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: sb, sb_lib and uart401(?) using rmmod |
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| 04:25.42 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: 7174 is the latest in sid... if you're running sid, nvidia-glx 7174 should be available too |
| 04:25.46 | mwilson | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=nvidia-glx |
| 04:25.56 | mwilson | Wyzard: Yes, 7174 is what's in Sid. |
| 04:25.57 | Wyzard | Guerin: I already told him that |
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| 04:26.02 | bltzfsck | im running sarge, but i heard sid was the place to go |
| 04:26.09 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: ok. All the modules you should have on the "sound" or "soundcore" line should now start with snd- |
| 04:26.10 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: I didn't delete anyhing |
| 04:26.11 | dondelelcaro | bltzfsck: no, it's not... |
| 04:26.26 | dondelelcaro | you generally shouldn't be running sid unless you already know why you shouldn't be running sid. |
| 04:26.31 | Guerin | never underestimate the stupidity of random people who can't get their hardware working |
| 04:26.35 | Guerin | that's what I say |
| 04:26.35 | bltzfsck | i mean, unstable is the place to find the glx |
| 04:26.42 | bltzfsck | don't want to use sid, thx |
| 04:26.43 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: where? |
| 04:26.55 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: where what? |
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| 04:27.00 | bltzfsck | i don't even tie my shoes right every day |
| 04:27.19 | fooz | sid requires you to have a degree in shoe tying |
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| 04:27.32 | bltzfsck | so i'm told |
| 04:27.35 | mwilson | Cute... Sarge is without an nvidia-kernel-source package again. |
| 04:27.52 | Mike77_linux | Guerin: "All the modules you should have on the "sound" or "soundcore" line should now start with snd- ". How did I check this? |
| 04:28.02 | bltzfsck | i'm gonna yank the matrox card out of my other box and start over |
| 04:28.23 | bltzfsck | not |
| 04:28.32 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: Someone pointed you earlier to a website where you can get whatever versions you need of the driver |
| 04:28.34 | mwilson | pipeline: Isn't Randall still the nvidia package maintainer? His page is empty. |
| 04:28.38 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: lsmod |grep snd |
| 04:28.40 | Mike77_linux | POLL: Is it me being terribly stupid with hardware or is it Linux being not easy to manage hardware? |
| 04:28.50 | mwilson | Mike77_linux: The former. |
| 04:28.50 | bltzfsck | wyzard, missed it, who? |
| 04:28.56 | pipeline | mwilson: It is? news to me |
| 04:29.09 | mwilson | pipeline: You pasted the URL, not me. |
| 04:29.10 | bltzfsck | ah, i see it now, thx |
| 04:29.11 | Guerin | Mike77_linux: it's the fact that you have one of the very worst pieces of hardware |
| 04:29.22 | fooz | which piece? |
| 04:29.33 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: hmm... nevermind, it was http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia/unstable/ but it appears to be empty now, for some reason |
| 04:29.33 | Guerin | isa soundblaster |
| 04:29.38 | fooz | those are great |
| 04:29.43 | mwilson | pipeline: <shrug> The KhensU pages are OK. |
| 04:29.44 | Guerin | if you can get them working |
| 04:29.47 | fooz | way less problematic than PCI ones |
| 04:29.51 | Guerin | which is a right bastard of a thing to do |
| 04:29.54 | pipeline | mwilson: Holy guacomole |
| 04:29.59 | fooz | Mike77_linux, so.. how ancient is your box? |
| 04:30.05 | fooz | Mike77_linux, and your SB? is it a PnP card? |
| 04:30.06 | Mike77_linux | I'm sorry to bring this up, but at this point I kinda miss the "device manager" from windoze |
| 04:30.22 | mwilson | pipeline: Hm? |
| 04:30.22 | pipeline | Mike77_linux: It's you. |
| 04:30.23 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: I have the debs for nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source 1.0.6629... I can DCC them to you if you'd like |
| 04:30.25 | fooz | heh |
| 04:30.29 | bltzfsck | actually, i've been there already. it seems to be an empty directory |
| 04:30.29 | pipeline | mwilson: It was up a couple days ago. |
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| 04:30.42 | fooz | Mike77_linux, Windows can't pick up a sound card on its own any better than linux can |
| 04:30.50 | Mike77_linux | fooz: PII 350 with sb ISA pnp |
| 04:30.56 | bltzfsck | Wyzard, i can get that |
| 04:31.00 | fooz | Mike77_linux, it's an original Sound Blaster 8 bit? |
| 04:31.08 | Guerin | doubtful |
| 04:31.13 | bltzfsck | do i just downgrade the nvidia-kernel to make them match? |
| 04:31.14 | fooz | that's why I need to know |
| 04:31.17 | pipeline | Mike77_linux: hahahha, ISA PNP. Welcome to hell, bud. That would have sucked under windows if it's any consolation. |
| 04:31.21 | Mike77_linux | fooz: 16bit Vibra |
| 04:31.32 | fooz | those are lousy |
| 04:31.42 | fooz | Mike77_linux, so are you trying for OSS or Alsa? |
| 04:31.46 | maher | random isa sb clones are waste of time - particularly as you can get a pci one for $5 |
| 04:31.54 | Mike77_linux | fooz: tried all day long for alsa |
| 04:32.00 | Guerin | use alsa |
| 04:32.01 | fooz | Mike77_linux, do you have the OSS modules built? |
| 04:32.06 | Guerin | it will work if you do right |
| 04:32.07 | fooz | alsa's a PITA to get working |
| 04:32.17 | Guerin | bah |
| 04:32.17 | pipeline | Alsa has ISA drivers? *shudder* |
| 04:32.24 | bltzfsck | Wyzard, on second thought, yeah, if you don't mind my ineptitude with dcc |
| 04:32.25 | Mike77_linux | I've been wanting to ditch oss and get alsa |
| 04:32.28 | fooz | and I don't even know how to use it with ISA drivers |
| 04:32.36 | fooz | Mike77_linux, so it *does* work with OSS? |
| 04:32.45 | Guerin | i have an isapnp card ... wat's worse, it's in a laptop so I can't swap it out |
| 04:33.02 | fooz | I wish I had an ISA slot on my board |
| 04:33.05 | fooz | so I could run my AWE64 Gold |
| 04:33.08 | Mike77_linux | yes, it does work with oss. |
| 04:33.11 | bltzfsck | Wyzard, connection refused? |
| 04:33.14 | bltzfsck | is that me or you? |
| 04:33.16 | fooz | Mike77_linux, alright. why isn't it working with Alsa? |
| 04:33.17 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: hmm |
| 04:33.34 | Mike77_linux | fooz: been trying to figure that out all day long |
| 04:33.35 | bltzfsck | dont' dcc much |
| 04:33.48 | fooz | Mike77_linux, things just don't "not work" without some kind of error, or some symptom of "not working" |
| 04:34.01 | fooz | Mike77_linux, are you getting an error? does the module load, but you have no sound? what's going on? |
| 04:34.07 | Mike77_linux | fooz: hold on, I'll give you the error |
| 04:34.22 | bltzfsck | Wyzard, did i do sumfn wrong? |
| 04:34.38 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: hmm... I'm pretty sure my firewall is configured to allow DCC, but maybe I'm wrong |
| 04:34.48 | Mike77_linux | fooz: mixer attached default error: no such device |
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| 04:34.52 | bltzfsck | maybe it's mine/ |
| 04:34.58 | fooz | Mike77_linux, what gives you that error? |
| 04:35.04 | Mike77_linux | fooz: amixer |
| 04:35.24 | fooz | Mike77_linux, do you know where your card lives? (IO port, IRQ, DRQs?) |
| 04:35.26 | bltzfsck | do i need to go back to kernel 2.6.8 to use these? |
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| 04:36.09 | danikata | hi all |
| 04:36.14 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: No, you use nvidia-kernel-source to build an nvidia-kernel module for whatever kernel you happen to be running |
| 04:36.36 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: Presumably you've done that before, since AFAIK it's the only way to get an nvidia-kernel package, and you seem to have that already |
| 04:36.40 | danikata | how to update and install nvidia driver ? |
| 04:36.54 | Guerin | !tell danikata about nvidia howto |
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| 04:37.07 | Wyzard | danikata: apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-source |
| 04:37.09 | Mike77_linux | fooz: I knew it a while ago, now I can't remember how to read that again |
| 04:37.21 | fooz | my SB Lives give me endless of problems |
| 04:37.33 | Wyzard | danikata: and read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian |
| 04:37.34 | fooz | fight with all my other PCI cards |
| 04:37.44 | fooz | Mike77_linux, unload all the ALSA modules and load your OSS driver |
| 04:38.31 | fooz | Mike77_linux, it should both stick the values it's using in the system log, and tell the system to put them in /proc |
| 04:38.35 | Mike77_linux | I'm just trying to understand how linux/sarge handles hardware. it is not that I'm a cheap bastard that wants to use an ISA to save some $$. |
| 04:38.45 | danikata | thanks |
| 04:38.48 | fooz | Mike77_linux, such as in /proc/dma /proc/interrupts /proc/ioports |
| 04:38.48 | Wyzard | fooz: I've had no problems with my Live... just load emu10k1 or snd-emu10k1, depending on whether you're using OSS or ALSA |
| 04:39.00 | fooz | Wyzard, you probably don't have a bunch of PCI cards |
| 04:39.29 | fooz | it may just be my nforce2 board though. who knows |
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| 04:39.31 | fooz | it's a piece of crap |
| 04:39.41 | Wyzard | fooz: I have two Ethernet cards and two additional IDE cards |
| 04:40.11 | Wyzard | fooz: I've heard of the Live causing problems with a TV capture card getting the bus bandwidth it needed... but that's the only trouble I've heard of |
| 04:40.14 | timmeh | quick question whats the apt uninstall command? |
| 04:40.19 | fooz | Wyzard, those all don't use up a lot of PCI resources or cause much bus contention though |
| 04:40.24 | timmeh | is it just apt-get uninstall name |
| 04:40.29 | peterS | timmeh: apt-get remove |
| 04:40.34 | timmeh | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.36 | bltzfsck | Wyzard, i queried you a couple more questions. did you see them? |
| 04:41.07 | fooz | Wyzard, I've got an Adaptec 39160 and other crap |
| 04:41.15 | danikata | sorry where i find nvidia kernel source ? |
| 04:41.15 | fooz | Wyzard, and i'm unlucky :) |
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| 04:41.26 | Wyzard | danikata: apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source |
| 04:41.33 | Mike77_linux | apparenty my sound card is free now. How do i link it to alsa? Is there any easy way ? |
| 04:41.39 | Mike77_linux | or rtfm? |
| 04:41.47 | fooz | Mike77_linux, did you get my last messages? |
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| 04:42.29 | b__ | is there a command to uninstall kde |
| 04:42.30 | kingsley | Mike77_linux: I'd google for alsa debian faq |
| 04:42.38 | Mike77_linux | fooz: Just read them. Why go back to OSS? |
| 04:42.53 | fooz | Mike77_linux, you told me you don't know where your Vibra16 lives. ALSA needs to know where it lives so it can talk to it. |
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| 04:43.01 | fooz | Mike77_linux, If your OSS driver works, load it, so you can find out where it is. |
| 04:43.14 | kingsley | b__: Probably "dpkg --purge <kde-meta-package-name>" |
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| 04:43.44 | fooz | Mike77_linux, do you know anything about ISA? there is no auto-configuration. |
| 04:43.54 | Wyzard | kingsley: Removing the metapackage won't remove all the other packages that it pulled in |
| 04:44.01 | fooz | Mike77_linux, you the user are supposed to know what's in your computer |
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| 04:44.43 | john__ | hey where in debian do I say what I want daemons I want to run on startup? |
| 04:44.44 | Mike77_linux | fooz: I thoug PnP stands for Plug it and forget about it. |
| 04:44.56 | fooz | Mike77_linux, ISA systems have been that way since the early 80s :) Windows 95 and plug-and-play didn't change a thing |
| 04:45.03 | danikata | the message of my terminal is "Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate" |
| 04:45.08 | fooz | Mike77_linux, no, PnP stands for 'Plug and Pray' |
| 04:45.10 | Wyzard | Mike77_linux: ISA PnP sucks... it's often referred to as "Plug and Pray |
| 04:45.14 | fooz | Mike77_linux, as in, 'Pray that my hardware will work' |
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| 04:45.34 | Wyzard | Mike77_linux: because it was sort of an add-on to a bus that wasn't designed for it |
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| 04:45.43 | dramen | hello |
| 04:45.49 | Wyzard | Mike77_linux: PCI was designed for it from the start |
| 04:45.58 | dramen | how can i reinstall X |
| 04:46.01 | Mike77_linux | LOL. I also screwed something else up. My CPU load is 100%. |
| 04:46.47 | peterS | FUD. what problems have you all had with isapnp hardware recently? by 'recently' I mean 'since kernel 2.4.0 came out' |
| 04:46.55 | Wyzard | dramen: "apt-get install --reinstall" whatever package you want to reinstall... but unless you have damaged files or something, that's not going to make any difference. |
| 04:47.34 | Mike77_linux | Ok, I'm giving up. I wasted an entire day of my life trying to make this POS ISA card work. I'll get a PCI tomorrow. |
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| 04:47.49 | dyneuser | !myip |
| 04:47.56 | fooz | heh |
| 04:48.01 | Wyzard | peterS: The only ISA PnP hardware I've used in the past 5 years was the sound card on a ThinkPad 600E... never got it to work properly |
| 04:48.07 | dramen | when i want to start x then i get the following error: /usr/bin/X11/X no such file or directory |
| 04:48.09 | DNAA | !myipconfig |
| 04:48.32 | DNAA | how do I find out my local ip addy? |
| 04:48.35 | peterS | Wyzard: see, I've not had any problems with isapnp hardware, except an obscure SCSI card awhile back. the kernel didn't support the isapnp mode. it worked fine after I patched the kernel source (: |
| 04:48.36 | fooz | DNAA, what OS? |
| 04:48.41 | DNAA | linuxx |
| 04:48.46 | fooz | DNAA, go to a shell and type ifconfig |
| 04:48.57 | Mike77_linux | Thanks for all the help anyway. I learned a lot today. |
| 04:49.04 | DNAA | thank you |
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| 04:49.15 | fooz | I haven't had any ISA hardware since 2.4 came out |
| 04:49.56 | Wyzard | dramen: Try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", though I'm not entirely sure that'll work |
| 04:50.01 | fooz | I might have an ISA token ring card somewhere. I doubt it's plug and play :) |
| 04:50.07 | peterS | fooz: a lot of Pentium-II-era motherboards have isapnp sound chips. that might be the last I saw of ISA |
| 04:50.20 | peterS | I mean, in new hardware |
| 04:50.23 | fooz | he's got a SB Vibra16 |
| 04:50.34 | dramen | okay |
| 04:50.49 | dramen | ahha |
| 04:50.58 | fooz | SBs are frequently retarded and misreport their resources via ISAPnP anyway |
| 04:51.05 | dramen | xserver-xfree86 is not installed |
| 04:51.51 | Wyzard | dramen: Are you using an old 3.x version of X? |
| 04:52.09 | prodope | what's the command to make a rescue disk? |
| 04:52.19 | john__ | can anyone recommand a light weight gui web browser? firefox is too slow on this old machine |
| 04:52.26 | dramen | how can i get that information |
| 04:52.26 | john__ | does links have a gui version?? |
| 04:52.48 | Mike77_linux | quick one: I have a process that is using my CPU to 100%, but 'top' fails to show which one. Is there anything wrong with this? |
| 04:52.56 | peterS | prodope: I believe the debian-installer CD acts as a rescue disk if needed. that's a feature recently added and I *think* it's in -rc3 |
| 04:53.08 | dramen | tonight i installed a woody |
| 04:53.20 | Wyzard | dramen: XFree86 3.x used card-specific packages like xserver-svga, xserver-s3, xserver-matrox, etc. |
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| 04:53.53 | dramen | i think it's a old version |
| 04:53.53 | Wyzard | dramen: If you just installed woody, you might simply not have X installed at all |
| 04:53.54 | skel_home | anyone know what package dh_netdeps is in? |
| 04:54.17 | dramen | no there is no X |
| 04:54.40 | peterS | skel_home: /msg dpkg find bin/dh_netdeps |
| 04:54.47 | Wyzard | dramen: Then install "x-window-system-core"... that'll pull in everything you need |
| 04:54.49 | skel_home | peterS: ty |
| 04:55.01 | peterS | oy, where did dpkg go? |
| 04:55.02 | kingsley | prodope: rescue disks can be downloaded from the web (tomsrbt & knoppix). Otherwise yard. |
| 04:55.19 | skel_home | doh =P |
| 04:55.26 | Arafangion | peterS, Went down just over an hour ago. |
| 04:55.31 | dramen | okay |
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| 04:55.41 | badgers | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of sussudio) |
| 04:55.55 | Arafangion | sussudio? |
| 04:55.59 | Wyzard | badger badger badger badger ... |
| 04:56.11 | peterS | sussudio: bah, badgers doesn't support the 'find' command :/ |
| 04:56.14 | sussudio | !badger Arafangion |
| 04:56.15 | badgers | Arafangion: BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMUSHROOMBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerSnaaaaaaaaakkeeeASnaaaaake |
| 04:56.22 | sussudio | peterS: does too |
| 04:56.26 | sussudio | afaik. |
| 04:56.27 | flow | Im trying to write a simple sed regex to replace anything upto and including the last occurance of a comma. Im a little lost at how to do this... |
| 04:56.32 | peterS | <badgers> unfortunately, Debian is disabled in my configuration |
| 04:56.37 | sussudio | !find pants |
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| 04:57.04 | Arafangion | flow, s/.*,/_/g |
| 04:57.15 | Arafangion | flow, I am familiar with vim, though, not sed. |
| 04:57.55 | flow | let me try that...the problem i was running into was that certain lines have two or three commas |
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| 04:58.26 | skel_home | this sucks.. doing a dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us and it complains that dh_netdeps is missing (I assume this is related to the debian helper stuff) but I can't find any package that contains dh_netdeps =/ |
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| 04:59.15 | maher | !find dh_netdeps |
| 04:59.19 | kingsley | flow: echo "abcdefg,hijklmnop" | sed 's/.*,//' |
| 04:59.26 | peterS | skel_home: worst case, go to http://packages.debian.org/ and search for it. unfortunately ... this isn't your day. packages.debian.org is down at the moment. :/ |
| 04:59.31 | maher | ~find dh_netdeps |
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| 04:59.47 | peterS | maher: right, dpkg is dead, ravenbird is dead, apt isn't answering, and badgers doesn't support 'find' |
| 04:59.48 | raf256 | hi there fellow geeks |
| 04:59.50 | kingsley | flow: echo "abc,de,fg,hijklmnop" | sed 's/.*,//' |
| 04:59.57 | raf256 | I want to have some "hard" font, |
| 05:00.01 | peterS | maher: and packages.debian.org is dead too |
| 05:00.01 | maher | skel_home: apt-listfiles |
| 05:00.03 | skel_home | peterS: I just searched.. its not part of any package.. which is why I'm puzzled :-/ |
| 05:00.06 | raf256 | most fonts are too antialiased |
| 05:00.19 | raf256 | will turniong off hinting help? can I turn it only for some fonts? |
| 05:00.21 | peterS | skel_home: mono-utils |
| 05:00.28 | maher | skel_home: actually - maybe that uses pdo too |
| 05:00.33 | sussudio | peterS: it is not disabled |
| 05:00.38 | peterS | skel_home: I just used 'apt-file search', which you could install but it's several megabytes |
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| 05:00.47 | skel_home | peterS: oh.. ok thats not in my arch =/ |
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| 05:00.54 | Wyzard | raf256: If by "too antialiased" you mean too much gray making them look blurry, hinting will actually improve things |
| 05:00.59 | sussudio | set debian true |
| 05:01.03 | skel_home | peterS: thanks for finding that though =] |
| 05:01.04 | flow | kingsley thanks a bunch that did it... Ive been useless since someone stole my sed and awk book |
| 05:01.07 | sussudio | set debianRefreshInterval 1 |
| 05:01.11 | Wyzard | raf256: with decent-quality fonts at least... poorly-made fonts often have no hinting data anyway |
| 05:01.12 | peterS | skel_home: I wonder why your app needs something in mono if your arch doesn't support mono |
| 05:01.14 | sussudio | set debianExtra true |
| 05:01.21 | kingsley | flow: All I ask is that you put me in your will. |
| 05:01.35 | raf256 | Wyzard: I have maximum hintinh and still they are too blury, for example in terminal, I have black backgropund in terminal, and fonts look *terrimble* |
| 05:01.39 | skel_home | peterS: my arch does support mono.. debian doesn't support my arch :-P or have stuff packaged yet |
| 05:01.47 | skel_home | peterS: so I build everything from source |
| 05:01.53 | peterS | skel_home: ahh. what arch is this? |
| 05:02.01 | skel_home | peterS: x86_64 |
| 05:02.07 | mwilson | raf256: Max hinting is usually a BAD thing, not a good thing. |
| 05:02.11 | skel_home | peterS: ppc as well |
| 05:02.16 | raf256 | mhm |
| 05:02.19 | peterS | skel_home: the package that uses dh_netdeps should declare a build-dependency on mono-utils, anyway |
| 05:02.33 | raf256 | what monospace font would You reccomend, that have PL_pl characters also? |
| 05:02.42 | skel_home | peterS: there is no mono-utils package =/ and it throws no errors :[ |
| 05:02.54 | raf256 | it would be good if it have most other european languages as well. I can use ms fonts like verdana etc |
| 05:02.56 | Wyzard | raf256: Screenshot? |
| 05:03.05 | peterS | skel_home: right, that's an error in the package in question. it should declare that build-dependncy |
| 05:03.21 | karamelos | i have lost control of my mouse in gnome and cannot start a console window, i am in a virtual terminal now, how can I get my mouse back? |
| 05:03.31 | skel_home | peterS: ok gotcha.. should I submit a bug on that then? |
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| 05:03.56 | raf256 | oh, wait, lucida console is better |
| 05:04.01 | rafx | anyone know when the weekly sarge isos listed here will be updated (latest = 24-march-2005)? http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/weekly/ |
| 05:04.02 | raf256 | ok lerts try lucida without too much hinting |
| 05:04.05 | peterS | skel_home: what's the package, out of curiosity? |
| 05:04.06 | sussudio | peterS: stupid case-sensitive config file |
| 05:04.13 | peterS | sussudio: ahhhh |
| 05:04.19 | Wyzard | raf256: Yes, it depends a lot on the font... some are better-quality than others |
| 05:04.23 | sussudio | peterS: and it's dpkg's blootbot.config too. |
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| 05:04.24 | skel_home | peterS: dbus-1 patching for mono that I built from source for beagle |
| 05:04.30 | dramen | oooh i have it |
| 05:04.39 | kingsley | skel_home: I might use lynx to google for mouse and gnome. |
| 05:04.43 | dramen | just my mouse doesn't work |
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| 05:05.11 | badgers | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of sussudio) |
| 05:05.12 | peterS | skel_home: oh, if you patched it for mono, then the original package probably isn't buggy. but anyway, yeah, report the bug to whoever produced the patch |
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| 05:05.41 | sussudio | !find dh_netdeps |
| 05:05.49 | skel_home | peterS: well I didn't *patch* it per se.. I just uncommented the mono support in the debian/rules |
| 05:05.53 | amahbod | does anyone here have any sources for good dual-monitor wallpaper? |
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| 05:06.00 | skel_home | peterS: I'll submit one.. thanks for the help =] |
| 05:06.04 | omnistegan_ | Hey guys, I need to configure grub for a dual boot on my system, debian on hda1 and WinXP on hda2, debian didn't automatically detect winXP, so first of all what file do i edit, what what do i put? thanks in advance |
| 05:06.17 | skel_home | peterS: bad choice of words on my part |
| 05:06.19 | peterS | skel_home: well. if it's not uncommented in the default debian/rules, you probably shouldn't label it an actual bug. just email the maintainer to make sure he's aware of the issue |
| 05:06.24 | sussudio | ! 4! Debian: Search package matching 'dh_netdeps' in 'sid'. |
| 05:06.26 | Wyzard | omnistegan: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 05:06.26 | sussudio | ! 5! !ERROR! lMM: module (debian) does not exist. |
| 05:06.28 | sussudio | ! 6! !ERROR! delForked: forked{debian} does not exist. should not happen. |
| 05:06.39 | skel_home | ok will do |
| 05:06.45 | skel_home | peterS: thx again =] |
| 05:06.49 | peterS | np |
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| 05:07.29 | peterS | skel_home: are you on the amd64 porting team, then? |
| 05:07.34 | amahbod | does anyone here have any sources for good dual-monitor wallpaper? |
| 05:07.47 | sussudio | amahbod: IKEA? |
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| 05:07.57 | peterS | Sherwin Williams |
| 05:07.58 | karamelos | any hotkey to get to the gnome menu_ |
| 05:08.00 | amahbod | sussudio, lol. |
| 05:08.02 | Wyzard | amahbod: Why not just take two "single-monitor" wallpapers and join them together into a larger image using Gimp? |
| 05:08.05 | skel_home | peterS: I am not. I hang out in the channel from time to time but I don't have enough free-time to be reliable =/ |
| 05:08.14 | peterS | I see (: |
| 05:08.35 | peterS | Wyzard: nah, presumably he wants something that looks like a single panoramic image |
| 05:08.39 | amahbod | exactly. |
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| 05:08.50 | sysfault | anyone using rxvt? |
| 05:08.51 | ep | I've got a defective CD and I cant unmount the drive "/media/cdrom0: device is busy" It won't eject of course. How can I fix this? |
| 05:08.52 | amahbod | peterS, hit the nail on the head :) |
| 05:08.56 | sussudio | !stab sysfault |
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| 05:08.59 | peterS | sysfault: I have in the past. I moved back to xterm. why? |
| 05:09.26 | karamelos | exit |
| 05:09.32 | sussudio | !annoy penix |
| 05:09.33 | badgers | penix: Oooooh, aaah, Hmmm???? |
| 05:09.37 | peterS | there is no escape, karamelos |
| 05:09.38 | sussudio | wtf. |
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| 05:09.47 | sussudio | !factinfo annoy penix |
| 05:09.47 | badgers | annoy penix -- created by sussudio <Suss@45dyn143.dh.casema.net> at Thu Aug 29 03:34:21 2002 (949 days); it has been requested 30 times, last by sussudio at Sat Nov 13 05:25:21 2004. |
| 05:09.57 | sussudio | gr. |
| 05:10.03 | sussudio | !factinfo CMD: annoy (.*?) |
| 05:10.03 | badgers | CMD: annoy (.*?) -- last modified at Wed Nov 24 17:02:47 2004 by citral!~christoph@kss9-d9bb8b9d.pool.mediaWays.net. |
| 05:10.08 | sussudio | !fuck citral |
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| 05:10.13 | sysfault | peterS: xterm enabled me to specify the font name by it's primitive name, example xterm -fa 'Monospace Regular' -fs '10'), I tried doing the same via rxvt, but no luck, doesnt support the option. |
| 05:10.16 | sussudio | !forget CMD: annoy (.*?) |
| 05:10.36 | sussudio | hmmmm |
| 05:10.43 | sussudio | LoonaTick: get your bot out of here |
| 05:10.47 | peterS | sysfault: xterm support for xft is fairly new. rxvt support for xft is even newer. it works differently, but I forget how |
| 05:11.02 | sysfault | peterS: I tried running xlsfonts, and grepping for all monospace fonts, but it's a long list, not sure which font it is exactly. |
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| 05:11.15 | peterS | sysfault: I just use XLFD names for both, so I can't really help you |
| 05:11.29 | peterS | sysfault: however, I think helix got rxvt to work with xft fonts. (paging helix) |
| 05:11.32 | sussudio | !forget idioticmircbots |
| 05:11.32 | badgers | i didn't have anything called 'idioticmircbots' to forget, sussudio |
| 05:11.45 | sysfault | darn, I can't stick with xterm, because it gets in the way of my screen keybindings. |
| 05:11.51 | sysfault | no way am I going to fiddle with that. |
| 05:11.52 | helix | sysfault: urxvt.font: xft:Andale Mono:pixelsize=11 is what I have |
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| 05:11.56 | helix | sysfault: does that work for you? |
| 05:11.59 | sussudio | LoonaTick: what are you |
| 05:12.04 | sysfault | urxvt? |
| 05:12.09 | sysfault | hmm, may have to install it. |
| 05:12.09 | peterS | helix: without the 'u' in 'rxvt' pls (: |
| 05:12.27 | helix | oh |
| 05:12.28 | helix | oops |
| 05:12.28 | peterS | sysfault: helix is referring to ~/.Xresources here, I believe. try 'rxvt.font:....' |
| 05:12.29 | sussudio | !forget CMD: testing |
| 05:12.29 | badgers | sussudio: i didn't have anything called 'CMD: testing' to forget |
| 05:12.34 | sysfault | okie |
| 05:12.35 | helix | peterS: yeah, sorry |
| 05:13.12 | sysfault | rxvt: can't load font "xft:Andale Mono:pixelsize=11" |
| 05:13.17 | sysfault | hmmm |
| 05:13.32 | helix | sysfault: well, use a different font :) you may not have Andale Mono |
| 05:13.53 | peterS | sysfault: right, andale mono is from 'msttcorefonts' which is non-free. try your own font name, the one you were trying before |
| 05:14.05 | sussudio | !forget CMD: annoy (.*?) |
| 05:14.06 | badgers | sussudio: i didn't have anything called 'CMD: annoy (.*?)' to forget |
| 05:14.29 | sussudio | -LoonaTick(frozenfox@tetrix.is-so.unrealistic.nl)- Go teach someone else! |
| 05:14.32 | sussudio | ^ what the hell is that? |
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| 05:14.37 | sysfault | ok, how can I get a list of all the mono fonts installed? |
| 05:14.46 | sysfault | in that particular format. |
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| 05:15.02 | Chameleon22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:15.03 | peterS | sysfault: 'xfontsel' and change the 'c/m/p' field to 'm' or 'c' |
| 05:15.04 | sysfault | hmm maybe fc-list. |
| 05:15.05 | jair_11 | normally when the pages give you an option of CVS what exacly is that? |
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| 05:15.22 | peterS | sysfault: not a list but it lets you narrow them down. it's a sucky interface but it does work |
| 05:15.28 | jnc | i'm pulling my hair out with the new mantainer howto |
| 05:15.30 | Wyzard | Chameleon22: Did you install a bootloader on the new disk? |
| 05:15.38 | helix | sysfault: fc-list | grep -i mono does give names, yeah |
| 05:15.44 | Chameleon22 | Wyzard: i have (grub) |
| 05:15.59 | sysfault | do i keep 'xft' there? |
| 05:16.03 | helix | sysfault: yeah |
| 05:16.08 | sysfault | k |
| 05:16.10 | sysfault | let me try |
| 05:16.12 | Wyzard | Chameleon22: dunno then... either the bootloader's not installed properly, or the BIOS isn't configured to boot from that disk |
| 05:16.13 | jnc | after dh-make etc. etc. it builds the library code and the stuff shows up installed in tmp/usr/lib... then i make the package and there's nothing in ./usr/lib |
| 05:16.16 | jnc | what gives |
| 05:16.17 | jnc | ? |
| 05:16.18 | peterS | right, a lot of mono fonts will include the substring 'Mono', won't they? didn't think of that |
| 05:16.46 | Rebecca | hi, i want to be able to backup my dvds. ive found dvd::rip, but it seems to only make a single move file from the dvd. i want to also backup the dvd's interface and extras. are there any apps that will work like dvd shrink on windows? |
| 05:16.59 | helix | peterS: yeah |
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| 05:17.07 | mwilson | Rebecca: How is that a "backup"? |
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| 05:17.15 | cafuego | helix: yeah |
| 05:17.23 | jair_11 | a CVS server is available for what? |
| 05:17.23 | helix | cafuego: yeah |
| 05:17.32 | sysfault | Rxvt*geometry: 84x27 |
| 05:17.32 | sysfault | Rxvt*font: xft:Luxi Mono:style=Regular:pixelsize=11 |
| 05:17.33 | sysfault | no luck |
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| 05:17.36 | Luser | Hello when using webmin I get a "Access Denied for 192.168.1.2 (my IP on the home network). Do I with webmin have to set a list of IPs for it to allow? |
| 05:17.38 | jair_11 | is some kind of file browser archive? |
| 05:17.41 | Rebecca | mwilson: it's a lossy backup. but a backup non the less |
| 05:17.46 | sysfault | umm didn't mean to paste the geometry line |
| 05:17.52 | peterS | sysfault: style=Regular should not be needed, I think |
| 05:18.00 | mwilson | A backup by definition is not "lossy". |
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| 05:18.13 | sysfault | peterS: same error |
| 05:18.18 | cafuego | peterS: where? |
| 05:18.33 | Wyzard | Rebecca: You can do a lossless backup by just copying all the files off the DVD and using DeCSS to decrypt the vobs... note that using DeCSS is illegal in the United States due to the DMCA |
| 05:18.33 | sysfault | the font does exist, got it from fc-list | grep -i 'mono' |
| 05:18.46 | helix | sysfault: yeah, don't use it with style=Regular though |
| 05:18.56 | helix | rather, try it without and see if it works then |
| 05:18.56 | sysfault | i removed the style stuff, same thing. |
| 05:19.00 | peterS | helix: whoa! rxvt doesn't include xft support, only rxvt-unicode does |
| 05:19.03 | mwilson | Wyzard: Why do you have to decrypt it? |
| 05:19.04 | helix | aha |
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| 05:19.16 | helix | sysfault: so install rxvt-unicde :) I guess that's the issue |
| 05:19.21 | Rebecca | mwilson: my music is backed up as high quality oggs. if the lossy format is aceptable then of course it's a backup.. do you not consider a photocopy a backup of textual info? |
| 05:19.25 | sysfault | hehe, ok |
| 05:19.27 | sysfault | urxvt ? |
| 05:19.30 | helix | er, unicode |
| 05:19.30 | peterS | sysfault: install rxvt-unicode and use that. then helix's line will work for you, with 'urxvt.font:'. rxvt doesn't have that support compiled in *at all*. |
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| 05:19.37 | helix | sysfault: the package name is rxvt-unicode |
| 05:19.42 | sussudio | !factinfo CMD: annoy (.*?) |
| 05:19.43 | sysfault | yep, installing now. |
| 05:19.45 | sysfault | gracias. |
| 05:19.45 | asuffield | oh come on, if you're using rxvt it's because you don't *want* features like that |
| 05:19.46 | Wyzard | mwilson: Because the keys are stored in a part of the disc that's not accessible by normal means... if you don't decrypt, and just burn the files to a new DVD, you'll have encrypted video and no key availble |
| 05:19.59 | asuffield | total absence of i18n is half the point of rxvt |
| 05:20.00 | peterS | asuffield: well, you might think |
| 05:20.01 | sussudio | !test |
| 05:20.07 | sysfault | asuffield: it's not a feature, you're simply using a nice font :) |
| 05:20.13 | raf256 | anyone using cfs here? (crypto file system) |
| 05:20.16 | Wyzard | mwilson: If there's some way to make a bit-for-bit copy of a DVD disc's surface using a normal consumer DVD burner, then you can copy the keys too and not even have to decrypt |
| 05:20.22 | peterS | asuffield: total absence of tektronics graphics being the other half of the reason? (: |
| 05:20.26 | Mike77_linux | Got alsa working with my ISA sb card! |
| 05:20.32 | mwilson | Wyzard: Hm. Didn't know that. |
| 05:20.44 | asuffield | peterS: or anything else resembling features not found in an actual vt100 hard terminal |
| 05:20.55 | Wyzard | mwilson: That's my understanding from what I've read... I don't know all the technical details |
| 05:20.56 | peterS | asuffield: except color. rxvt does color. |
| 05:21.02 | raf256 | is cfs cool? |
| 05:21.03 | cat | hey if i have a static ip what do i have to do, to make a vhost and connect me with it? |
| 05:21.11 | Rebecca | Wyzard: im in australia. so that should be ok.. but i want to transcode the video so it will fit on a single layer dvd |
| 05:21.12 | peterS | rxvt did color before xterm did |
| 05:21.14 | sysfault | asuffield: you use rxvt? |
| 05:21.21 | mwilson | Wyzard: I'm not into pirating DVD's, so I'd never known that about the keys. |
| 05:21.25 | Wyzard | mwilson: But DeCSS does some sort of raw communication with the drive to get get it to read and return the keys |
| 05:21.26 | cafuego | üñì¢øÃé bastards |
| 05:21.37 | asuffield | no |
| 05:21.39 | cartel_ | Wyzard: no it doesnt |
| 05:21.43 | cartel_ | it has a builtin key |
| 05:21.44 | peterS | sysfault: your other option is to use 'xfontsel' to narrow down an XLFD name for a font you want to use, and plug *that* in |
| 05:21.44 | sysfault | fonts look great. |
| 05:22.01 | asuffield | Wyzard: nah, it just cracks them |
| 05:22.07 | peterS | sysfault: XLFD names are long and annoying, but they're supported by every X application since the beginning of time, around 1987 |
| 05:22.08 | asuffield | Wyzard: CSS is shitty encryption |
| 05:22.14 | raf256 | I have such sources.list : |
| 05:22.15 | Wyzard | cartel_: The video is encrypted with the title key... the title key is stored on the disc, encrypted with a player key |
| 05:22.16 | cartel_ | asuffield: not even |
| 05:22.16 | asuffield | you can break it in seconds on a modern processor |
| 05:22.23 | raf256 | deb ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ testing main |
| 05:22.23 | raf256 | deb-src ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ testing main |
| 05:22.23 | raf256 | deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates |
| 05:22.34 | raf256 | what should I change to have also non-free and contrib sources? |
| 05:22.36 | Wyzard | cartel_: DeCSS gets the encrypted title keys, and uses its player key (which was cracked by a human) to yield the unencrypted title key |
| 05:22.44 | mwilson | Wyzard: And DeCSS has a player key. That was basic to the whole lawsuit. |
| 05:22.48 | Wyzard | asuffield: DeCSSPlus brute-forces the key... DeCSS doesn't |
| 05:22.51 | cartel_ | raf: add non-free and contrib to deb-src line |
| 05:22.51 | peterS | raf256: add ' config non-free' after 'testing main' on those lines |
| 05:23.02 | sysfault | thanks guys |
| 05:23.18 | Wyzard | mwilson: right... it all started because some DVD software player app didn't protect its player key, so the DeCSS author took it and made a program which used it to decrypt a DVD's title keys |
| 05:23.19 | asuffield | oh, the old xing ripoff? nobody uses that. the real code just cracks them |
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| 05:23.29 | cafuego | Rebecca: Honestly, you're not going to get anything better than dvdShrink |
| 05:23.31 | cartel_ | Wyzard: jon johansen |
| 05:23.33 | asuffield | there's a highly effective known-plaintext attack against CSS, and every DVD has known plaintext |
| 05:23.50 | Rebecca | cafuego: okay, thanks |
| 05:23.59 | AceSmythe | is there a way to assign a keypress the functionality of the left/mid/right clicks? |
| 05:24.00 | Wyzard | asuffield: I've read that the other player keys have since been cracked, but I think that's something done up-front by humans, not on-the-fly by the software |
| 05:24.05 | cafuego | Rebecca: Annoying coz it's windoze only, but it's quick and efficient. |
| 05:24.11 | cartel_ | asuffield: any crypto where you have known plaintext is crackable without too much effort |
| 05:24.30 | Rebecca | cafuego: yeah, it's a handy little app |
| 05:24.34 | Wyzard | asuffield: I've used both DeCSS and DeCSSPlus and I know that the former does need to communicate with the DVD drive containing the original disc... the latter does the known-plaintext attack you mentioned |
| 05:24.35 | raf256 | peterS: thanx |
| 05:24.47 | cartel_ | i was going to get a tattoo of the smallest possible css for a while |
| 05:24.48 | sussudio | !seen test |
| 05:24.58 | asuffield | Wyzard: people actually use that shit? the real players just use libdvdcss |
| 05:24.59 | bltzfsck | Wyzard, can dpkg build AND install the nvidia-source? |
| 05:25.09 | Rebecca | cartel_: lol, try explaining that to the girls |
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| 05:25.24 | cartel_ | Rebecca ;) |
| 05:25.27 | Wyzard | bltzfsck: Once you build nvidia-kernel (probably using "make-kpkg"), you install it using "dpkg -i" |
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| 05:25.40 | cartel_ | but i settled on the smallest possible rijndael transform |
| 05:25.42 | bltzfsck | thx |
| 05:25.46 | Wyzard | asuffield: I've used it once... wanted to try it out |
| 05:25.52 | kingsley | bltzfsck: Not that I recall, but I seem to remember some pretty simple instructions in the documentation. |
| 05:26.03 | raf256 | how can I *securly* allow one user to use 1) apt-get 2) apt-cache 3) synaptics |
| 05:26.11 | cafuego | raf256: sudo |
| 05:26.12 | mwilson | raf256: man sudo |
| 05:26.14 | raf256 | user called JohnDoe for example |
| 05:26.14 | cartel_ | raf: sudo |
| 05:26.16 | cartel_ | snap |
| 05:26.20 | Guerin | heh |
| 05:26.21 | raf256 | thnx |
| 05:26.41 | Guerin | that's cool; I didn't know css could be broken just using known plaintext |
| 05:27.03 | cartel_ | rebecca: not so bad because i have a minimum intelligence requirement for girls ;) |
| 05:27.17 | Wyzard | Guerin: Yep... and a frame or two of solid black (for example) is a very common known plaintext |
| 05:27.31 | Guerin | Wyzard: heh |
| 05:27.34 | cartel_ | haha |
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| 05:28.04 | Rebecca | cartel_: fair enough :) |
| 05:28.07 | jnc | :( |
| 05:28.08 | Wyzard | Oddly enough, when I tried out DeCSS, it had problems getting the key -- kept returning all zeros |
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| 05:28.16 | jnc | i'm so frustrated with debian packaging |
| 05:28.17 | cafuego | Are there any PC manufacturers that have an iBook 12" equiv box? |
| 05:28.23 | Wyzard | DeCSSPlus worked fine though; it's amazing how quickly it can find the right key |
| 05:28.31 | dondelelcaro | !status |
| 05:28.31 | dpkg | Since Mon Apr 4 05:27:57 2005, there have been 0 modifications, 0 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 34s this session, and currently reference 25321 factoids. I'm using about 13924 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3.48/0.08 child 0.01/0 |
| 05:28.36 | zinx | libdvdcss, anyone? :E |
| 05:28.47 | Wyzard | yay! |
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| 05:30.13 | sysfault | thanks helix, peterS |
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| 05:30.39 | flow | Ok i have a script that I want to insert a /n after each address is inserted into the mailing list... is this correct? while read addr; do /usr/local/bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-sub /home/vpopmail/domains/oraclegatherings.com/oracle "$addr /n"; done < ~kris/oracleemails.txt |
| 05:30.46 | jnc | :( |
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| 05:30.59 | rvirani | bob2: I tried woody but it gave me ext2, is there a way to use the installer for ext3 |
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| 05:31.14 | Guerin | rvirani: read the ig |
| 05:31.15 | jnc | dpkg: what should i do? |
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| 05:31.28 | peterS | ravenbird: wb |
| 05:31.28 | ravenbird | thanks, peters. It's good to be back. |
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| 05:32.49 | rvirani | Guerin: k |
| 05:32.51 | raf256 | ok, now I do have lines like |
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| 05:33.11 | raf256 | deb ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 05:33.11 | raf256 | deb-src ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
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| 05:33.28 | raf256 | ...how can I add there also SID sources so that I can download few SID packages |
| 05:33.36 | Guerin | raf256: you don't |
| 05:33.37 | raf256 | but to leave the Sarge as default |
| 05:33.47 | Guerin | raf256: read man apt_preferences |
| 05:33.47 | raf256 | Guerin: I do, I need quake2, with is only in SID |
| 05:33.55 | Guerin | raf256: nobody needs quake2 |
| 05:34.14 | raf256 | Guerin: well I want to play quake2, any better way to install it? |
| 05:34.45 | Guerin | raf256: man apt_preferences will tell you how to manage a mixed sources.list without massive breakage |
| 05:35.06 | raf256 | ok, but what can I change without reading man (not too much time today) |
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| 05:35.26 | jm_ | you could try and change your reading speed |
| 05:35.31 | Guerin | raf256: you dan't, it's not simple and it's not easy to avoid fucking up. |
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| 05:35.50 | Guerin | raf256: you're putting avgas in your honda civic |
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| 05:36.25 | raf256 | Guerin: yes it is very easy, i done it before. Quake2 dont have any dependiences fortunately |
| 05:37.01 | Guerin | raf256: if that's the case, just download it direct from p.d.o |
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| 05:37.09 | Luser | Hm... does the samba config module for webmin come in the webmin-core package? |
| 05:37.20 | Guerin | Luser: doubtful |
| 05:37.40 | Luser | Guerin, any ideas where it might be located? I've had a look on packages.debian.org but I've found nothing. |
| 05:37.50 | flow | actually let me rephrase my question can someone tell me what the escape sequence is to put a newline into a while script? |
| 05:37.52 | Guerin | !find samba-webmin |
| 05:38.00 | Guerin | flow: \n ? |
| 05:38.04 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'samba-webmin' returned no results. |
| 05:38.08 | raf256 | Guerin: and then just unpack the directories form .deb file? To what URL should I go? |
| 05:38.15 | flow | Guerin yeah that didnt work for me... |
| 05:38.24 | Guerin | raf256: packages.debian.org; use dpkg -i to install them |
| 05:38.26 | flow | would you like to see the line? |
| 05:38.28 | Guerin | flow: #bash |
| 05:39.03 | dramen | okay |
| 05:39.29 | dramen | my usb mouse doesn't work |
| 05:39.33 | dramen | what can i do |
| 05:39.36 | Guerin | !doesn't work |
| 05:39.36 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 05:39.43 | Guerin | dramen: fire it |
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| 05:40.04 | dramen | okay |
| 05:40.05 | Luser | Oh webmin-samba exists in stable, and unstable, but not testing :( |
| 05:40.21 | jm_ | flow: it works just fine |
| 05:40.23 | Luser | Can I specfically grap it from stable? |
| 05:40.43 | Guerin | !why is webmin-samba not in testing |
| 05:40.44 | dpkg | webmin-samba is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=webmin-samba |
| 05:41.00 | Guerin | Luser: grab it from unstable if you must |
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| 05:41.26 | Luser | Oh, alright thanks for the help Guerin |
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| 05:42.19 | Loof | Anyone know if there is a channel on here for bittorrent? |
| 05:42.38 | Guerin | Loof: #bittorrent, bizarrely |
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| 05:43.01 | Loof | Oh duh... I typed it /w 1 t...and strangely no one in that channel |
| 05:43.03 | Loof | heh |
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| 05:47.58 | weehk | my windows PC not running logon script from Samba PDC |
| 05:48.06 | weehk | any pointer? |
| 05:48.09 | opqdonut | doesn't make bzImage come after make dep? |
| 05:48.17 | Guerin | weehk: #samba |
| 05:48.18 | opqdonut | when compiling a 2.4 kernel |
| 05:48.26 | Guerin | opqdonut: neither comes after either |
| 05:48.39 | Guerin | !tell opqdonut about kp |
| 05:48.39 | weehk | no response from there .... idle for few days |
| 05:48.47 | Guerin | !tell opqdonut about kp mantra |
| 05:49.21 | opqdonut | har har. i'm doing this the old-fashioned way :) |
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| 05:50.20 | shingouz | opqdonut: the debian way is a lot easier |
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| 05:51.22 | peterS | opqdonut: if you aren't going to use the debian way, it isn't a debian-specific question anymore, is it? |
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| 05:52.40 | CyzarX | what player (other than mplayer) able to play file with extension .3gp in debian? |
| 05:52.55 | peterS | CyzarX: wtf is that file? what does 'file' think it is? |
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| 05:53.09 | _SerhaT_ | peterS> it's one used by some mobile pones |
| 05:53.14 | _SerhaT_ | phones* |
| 05:53.20 | peterS | ehh. |
| 05:53.29 | CyzarX | 3gp = 3rd generation protocol, use for mobiles phones |
| 05:53.41 | CyzarX | video can decode properly, but the not audio |
| 05:54.40 | pyr3 | I've installed debian on my amd64 system, but when I compile kernel 2.6.11.6 and install it to the /boot/ partition, grub gives me an "Error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format". It boots the 2.4 kernel that was installed fine though. |
| 05:54.42 | pyr3 | Any suggestions? |
| 05:54.43 | CyzarX | what is the real player and quicktime player in debian ? |
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| 05:55.07 | barretj | whats the best postscript viewer in the debian repository? |
| 05:55.33 | pyr3 | Maybe I shouldn't compile my kernel with my processor set as amd64 since I installed with sarge netinstall cd for i386? |
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| 05:56.03 | yxa | how do i make an openldap slave replicate changes back to the master? (for eg, a user changes his password at the slave site) |
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| 05:58.29 | barretj | for some reason postscript files keep coming out all blurry when I print them from kghostview |
| 05:58.41 | barretj | the same file printed in pdf form looks fine |
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| 05:58.58 | barretj | what could be causing this? |
| 05:59.17 | tchino | how can i print color pictures with a higher solution, you seee the pixels, in black, it is all right |
| 05:59.26 | Guerin | barretj: any different just printing them directly? |
| 05:59.32 | fooz | yxa, i don't think it can do that |
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| 06:00.01 | rixth | Hmmm, Cups gives me this error ""Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...perl: warning: Setting locale failed."" any ideas? |
| 06:00.02 | barretj | if I print the pdf it looks fine, but i need to convert to ps so i can run psnup on the files |
| 06:00.11 | Nwallins | is there a replacement for mod-ssl-makecert on sarge? I am trying make-ssl-cert, but I don't know what template will give me a 'test' cert |
| 06:00.40 | Guerin | barretj: if you print a pdf, a bunch of filters convert it to ps before pringtin. I'm suggesting you just print the ps directly and see if that gives |
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| 06:01.15 | barretj | yes, i am printing the ps directly, at least as directly as KGhostView prints it |
| 06:01.27 | barretj | i dont know how i could make it any more direct |
| 06:01.44 | cafuego | yay, dellstore is dead |
| 06:01.52 | quanli | backlight was not down on thinkpad A30 when I suspend it with swsusp and swsusp2, any suggestions? I am running debian on kernel 2.6.11 |
| 06:01.57 | fooz | what is dellstore? |
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| 06:02.27 | cafuego | the dell online store |
| 06:02.32 | Beleneglorion | hello |
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| 06:03.09 | barretj | weee packages.debian.org is down! |
| 06:03.23 | fooz | that's cause i winnuked it |
| 06:03.30 | simonrvn | since when? i was there aout an hour ago |
| 06:03.35 | simonrvn | about* |
| 06:03.41 | AceSmythe | so, like, if i wanted to make it so that every time i hit the 'a' key (for example), the computer left clicked, could i do it? |
| 06:03.51 | barretj | hmm, looks like debian.org is down too |
| 06:04.10 | cafuego | !blame mwilson |
| 06:04.30 | jond3rd | hmm debian.org works fine here |
| 06:04.54 | myren | hehe, thats grand cafuego |
| 06:05.02 | AceSmythe | :/ |
| 06:05.06 | barretj | debian.org is definitly down |
| 06:05.07 | simonrvn | barretj: they didn't like your IP, so they decided to null route you |
| 06:05.11 | barretj | wtf |
| 06:05.15 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 06:05.16 | barretj | what did i do |
| 06:05.22 | dondelelcaro | www.nl.debian.org should still work, but gluck died |
| 06:05.36 | simonrvn | damn :/ |
| 06:05.42 | rixth | Is the new D-I graphical? |
| 06:05.57 | cafuego | rixth: it has a GUI, but is not X. |
| 06:06.03 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 06:06.05 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Sarge Base+Standard frozen; installer: /msg dpkg d-i | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | Java -> /msg dpkg java | Spambots? /umode +E; Ask for an op | No, gnome 2.10 and kde 3.4 are not packaged yet | d-i rc3 out! /msg dpkg d-i | gluck (debian.org et al.) imploded |
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| 06:06.12 | Coke | cafuego: isn't D-I designed the same way debconf is? |
| 06:06.15 | simonrvn | everything's 'graphical' |
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| 06:06.20 | jnc | hmm i'm back |
| 06:06.20 | dondelelcaro | diff: gluck (debian.org et al.) imploded |
| 06:06.24 | barretj | http://192.25.206.10 is down |
| 06:06.27 | rixth | cafuego, thanks |
| 06:06.27 | cafuego | simonrvn: No. |
| 06:06.30 | jnc | any packaging gurus abound? |
| 06:06.36 | cafuego | simonrvn: A braille reader is not graphical. |
| 06:06.38 | barretj | what happened? |
| 06:06.45 | dondelelcaro | well, if it isn't graphical, it sure better be auditory |
| 06:06.52 | dondelelcaro | or kinetic... |
| 06:06.59 | cafuego | barretj: I tripped over the cable and the raid controller died :-( |
| 06:07.01 | simonrvn | cafuego: true. that's tactile :). or auditory, like ^^ |
| 06:07.13 | barretj | damn, Konsole just stopped being graphical and now i cant see my babe wallpaper :( |
| 06:07.14 | cafuego | simonrvn: Aha! But d-i can use one! ;-) |
| 06:07.17 | chealer | there's only one server responsible of "debian.org"? |
| 06:07.23 | barretj | err, i mean transparent |
| 06:07.32 | jnc | simonrvn: :) |
| 06:07.43 | dondelelcaro | chealer: there's a whole host of them. gluck just is debian.org |
| 06:07.51 | jnc | simonrvn: how's it goin' |
| 06:07.58 | simonrvn | jnc: /msg dpkg guru |
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| 06:08.08 | simonrvn | doing ok. just had a drive go tits up |
| 06:08.20 | cafuego | GUide to Ram Upgrades? |
| 06:08.23 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: no idea as to why? |
| 06:08.30 | chealer | dondelelcaro: you mean, it's all "www.debian.org"? |
| 06:08.50 | jnc | simonrvn: d'oh |
| 06:08.51 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: supposedly harddrive |
| 06:08.58 | dondelelcaro | chealer: no, I mean it's debian.org |
| 06:09.01 | jnc | simonrvn: physical or electrical? |
| 06:09.03 | dondelelcaro | chealer: www.debian.org is mirrored |
| 06:09.06 | Guerin | simonrvn: you broke gluck! |
| 06:09.10 | Guerin | again! |
| 06:09.21 | simonrvn | cafuego: ha, touché! :) |
| 06:09.26 | dondelelcaro | chealer: www.debian.org is klecker et al, anyway. |
| 06:09.33 | chealer | dondelelcaro: aahh...now I see the problem too :) |
| 06:09.37 | rixth | Is it just me or is debian.org down? (I think I may have missed something) |
| 06:09.38 | simonrvn | jnc: sectors |
| 06:09.40 | chealer | thanks |
| 06:09.44 | dondelelcaro | !topicsmite rixth |
| 06:09.45 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon rixth. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 06:09.50 | simonrvn | Guerin: nah ;) |
| 06:09.59 | rixth | All the mirrors are dead too |
| 06:10.04 | dondelelcaro | rixth: uh, no, they're not. |
| 06:10.07 | Guerin | hrm, so is there a logic behind the Names Of Debian Servers? |
| 06:10.09 | Wyzard | rixth: debian.org seems fine to me |
| 06:10.14 | Guerin | or is it just random whimsy? |
| 06:10.14 | barretj | wtf os going on?!?!?!? |
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| 06:10.25 | jnc | simonrvn: good luck w/ that. know who i might talk to about debianizing a library? it uses autoconf/automake build system |
| 06:10.27 | jair_11 | hello guys I know this is a samba problem but it is very simple to figure out: http://pastebin.com/266823 |
| 06:10.29 | simonrvn | Guerin: yup |
| 06:10.29 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: some of them are named after people, some just at random |
| 06:10.38 | jair_11 | this means that I have to install perl? |
| 06:10.40 | jnc | simonrvn: i got about 90% of the way there and i'm so confused about the rest |
| 06:10.42 | jair_11 | this means that I have to install perl? http://pastebin.com/266823 |
| 06:10.44 | jair_11 | ? |
| 06:10.44 | Guerin | rixth: think just for a moment about how unlikely that would be |
| 06:11.01 | Guerin | jair_11: if you're running debian, you have perl installed already |
| 06:11.02 | simonrvn | jnc: never packaged a lib, sorry. hmmm |
| 06:11.16 | jnc | bugger |
| 06:11.17 | chealer | is there a web interface to dpkg the blootbot? just to be sure... |
| 06:11.21 | Wyzard | jair_11: This is #debian... why are you asking about RPM packages? |
| 06:11.23 | dondelelcaro | jair_11: uh, this is #debian, not #fedora |
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| 06:11.27 | jnc | i see all the files are in debian/tmp |
| 06:11.30 | Guerin | chealer: negatory |
| 06:11.30 | dondelelcaro | chealer: no, there isn't currently. |
| 06:11.36 | jair_11 | sorry guys |
| 06:11.37 | rixth | Guerin, well, I cant search for packages, at ANY mirrow |
| 06:11.38 | jair_11 | ok |
| 06:11.39 | chealer | thanks anyway |
| 06:11.41 | jair_11 | I am sorry |
| 06:11.51 | simonrvn | jnc: oh, use dh_install to install them. make some $package.install files |
| 06:11.51 | jnc | dondelelcaro: you know, i'm asking about dpkgs and the guy with questions about RPMs gets a response |
| 06:11.58 | Guerin | rixth: /msg dpkg find hello sarge |
| 06:12.23 | rixth | As for the topic, I don't know what gluck (debian.org et al.) imploded means. |
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| 06:12.49 | jnc | simonrvn: i used dh_make to set up a skeleton, and the rules file has dh_install uncommented |
| 06:12.52 | jnc | is that what you mean? |
| 06:13.33 | mwilson | ew, gluck died? |
| 06:13.38 | simonrvn | jnc: yes. once you have some proper *.install files it should do its jobs |
| 06:13.40 | mwilson | Not nice. |
| 06:13.42 | simonrvn | job* |
| 06:13.53 | barretj | i just lost an hour of my life to daylight savings |
| 06:14.03 | jnc | simonrvn: but there's a .install file with 'usr/lib/lib*.so.*' |
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| 06:14.07 | jnc | why would that not be working? |
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| 06:14.40 | simonrvn | oh ok. hmm |
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| 06:15.20 | dondelelcaro | jnc: have you already read through the nm guide yet? |
| 06:15.30 | jnc | dondelelcaro: yep. |
| 06:15.39 | dondelelcaro | jnc: if so, and you're still having problems, ask a specific question, and stick your .diff.gz, orig.tar.gz and dsc up. |
| 06:15.50 | jnc | i mean, the guide missed something or i missed it |
| 06:16.04 | jnc | i think what simonrvn is saying might be it |
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| 06:16.17 | jnc | the guide, unless i overlooked it, does not mention the .install files |
| 06:16.36 | dondelelcaro | jnc: no, the install files don't really have anything to do with it. Your make install target should install into the apropriate debian/<packagename>/usr etc. direcotry |
| 06:16.37 | tzafrir | Hi, is there any calendar program that does not depend on gnome or kde but can get/display useful information from an iCalendar file? |
| 06:16.37 | jbAU | anyone had much experience with 2.6 kernels? I'm wondering if there is an option where if there is a kernel panic it will automagically reboot the system instead of just hanging |
| 06:16.46 | Coke | How can I make BASH tab-listings use less instead of more? |
| 06:16.49 | cafuego | jbAU: Yes. |
| 06:16.52 | jbAU | tzafrir: have a look at sunbird - by mozilla |
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| 06:17.07 | tzafrir | jbAU, IIRC the option is panic=NUM |
| 06:17.09 | jnc | dondelelcaro: mine is installing to debian/tmp/usr etc. |
| 06:17.16 | tzafrir | the number of seconds to wait |
| 06:17.19 | jnc | per the dh_make utility i used to create the skeleton |
| 06:17.23 | dondelelcaro | jnc: that's fine. If that's where they install, then that's all you have to do. |
| 06:17.30 | tzafrir | And it is nothing new in kernel 2.6 |
| 06:17.36 | jnc | dondelelcaro: they aren't showing up in the deb |
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| 06:17.47 | cafuego | jbAU: there's also a kernel option that auto-reboots on a lockup (if it can) |
| 06:17.50 | jnc | dondelelcaro: only the changelog and README.gz show up in the deb |
| 06:17.51 | jbAU | awesome thanks guys - i need to do a kernel upgrade on a remote system and was going to to a lilo -R but wanted it to reboot in case there was something wrong |
| 06:17.53 | jnc | i'm very confused by this |
| 06:17.54 | dondelelcaro | jnc: run fakeroot debian/rules build; and check ls -R debian/tmp |
| 06:18.00 | tzafrir | anything less bloated? |
| 06:18.04 | jnc | dondelelcaro: yep, files are there |
| 06:18.09 | dondelelcaro | jnc: (possibly debian/rules install; as well, depending on how you've written the rules file) |
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| 06:18.19 | dondelelcaro | jnc: ok, tar up everything, and stick it up somewhere. |
| 06:18.25 | jbAU | cafuego, tzafrir thanks guys |
| 06:18.43 | jbAU | tzafrir: well sunbird does has some cool features, like shared calendars |
| 06:19.20 | tzafrir | However sunbird has poor interaction with the environment |
| 06:19.21 | jbAU | tzafrir: though if you use firebird then you can grab the calendar extension, that way you don't have to load up a whole new program |
| 06:19.31 | simonrvn | oh |
| 06:19.47 | jbAU | simonrvn: I figured out the cyrus 2.1 crashing issue! You'll never guess! |
| 06:20.00 | simonrvn | ajbtell me, please |
| 06:20.03 | simonrvn | er |
| 06:20.05 | tzafrir | Actually, my current browser is Galeon |
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| 06:20.13 | simonrvn | jbAU: ^^ |
| 06:21.00 | simonrvn | jbAU: does that extension grok ldap? 'cause that's where i have my addiebook and shit |
| 06:21.14 | jnc | dondelelcaro: http://pimpcat.org/~jnc/debian-custom/brokensources/libj2k-0.0.9_jnc.tar.bz2 |
| 06:21.42 | jbAU | simonrvn: it was pppoe... i went on site today and brought out a duplicate system with pretty much everything the same thinking 'i'll fix this bastard'... but as soon as I plugged it in i got the same error as i was getting before! thinking that i was going insane i thought the only different thing i couldn't reproduce was the pppoe connection |
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| 06:21.59 | jbAU | simonrvn: in short - turn on the pppoe connection and cyrus crashes. turn it off and it works as normal |
| 06:22.07 | mud | im running a basic sarge install with gnome and when i try to download stuff from net i just get a page of text that starts with something like #!/bin/sh |
| 06:22.11 | simonrvn | weird |
| 06:22.16 | jbAU | i think there is some funky voodoo happening there |
| 06:22.41 | mud | how do i dl stuff it used to work |
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| 06:23.10 | jbAU | mud: you're probably not downloading a file, if you start seeing #!/bin/sh then it's most likely a script |
| 06:23.16 | jbAU | mud: try right clicking the link |
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| 06:23.45 | jbAU | simonrvn: yeah, strange eh? i have a hunch it might be something wrong with the kernel, although it's the official debian 2.6.10 |
| 06:23.45 | mud | when i click the link it doesnt dl it just shows the text of the script |
| 06:23.56 | jbAU | mud: try right clicking |
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| 06:24.13 | mud | choose what on right click? |
| 06:24.31 | jbAU | mud: right click on the link and choose 'download' |
| 06:24.41 | jnc | dondelelcaro: sorry my link is slow |
| 06:25.06 | mud | when i right click there is no download option |
| 06:25.15 | jbAU | simonrvn: i'm going to continue diagnostics and figure out what the hell is going on, in the meantime i feel more sane knowing generally what's wrong |
| 06:25.24 | simonrvn | :) |
| 06:25.25 | jbAU | mud: save as ? |
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| 06:26.06 | jbAU | i gtg - stupid cisco courses... man do those guys know how to make life dull |
| 06:26.11 | mud | there is save link as but i tried it and it said md5 doesnt match or somehting |
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| 06:27.23 | chealer | mud: what's your browser? |
| 06:27.36 | mud | firefox |
| 06:28.13 | chealer | hum...try mozilla [navigator] maybe. otherwise tell where is the link and I'll try |
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| 06:28.37 | jnc | dondelelcaro: nothing shows up in libj2k1/ |
| 06:28.38 | mud | ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/ |
| 06:28.44 | jnc | but it's there in tmp/usr/lib/* |
| 06:28.51 | mud | try that link its for doom3 demo |
| 06:29.08 | dondelelcaro | jnc: yes, you need to use dh_install --source-file=debian/tmp |
| 06:29.17 | dondelelcaro | s/-file/dir/ |
| 06:29.21 | jnc | oh |
| 06:29.24 | dondelelcaro | jnc: man dh_install; |
| 06:29.29 | jnc | it didn't mention that in the guide |
| 06:29.52 | jnc | like, in the rules file right? |
| 06:29.57 | chealer | mud: will I have to download 400 MB before I see it fail? |
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| 06:30.21 | dondelelcaro | jnc: and probably you should also DH_VERBOSE; yes, packaging libraries is non-trivial. You also need to make a shlibdeps file, and manage that as well. |
| 06:30.53 | mud | chealer : no it wont start for me |
| 06:30.55 | dondelelcaro | jnc: you're going to need to read the library packaging guide as well, because there are specific issues that you need to be cognizant of |
| 06:31.09 | mud | chealer will it start for u? |
| 06:31.12 | chealer | mud: well, it starts for me |
| 06:31.16 | jnc | dondelelcaro: ah |
| 06:31.17 | chealer | try mozilla |
| 06:31.30 | jnc | dondelelcaro: hey, thanks for having a look at it |
| 06:31.34 | jnc | much obliged. |
| 06:31.36 | jnc | :) |
| 06:31.47 | dondelelcaro | jnc: see http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/ |
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| 06:32.17 | dondelelcaro | jnc: and yes, the dh_install call is in debian/rules; you just need to specify the option if you're going to use the packagename.install option |
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| 06:32.24 | dondelelcaro | s/option/sourcedir option/ |
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| 06:34.33 | SexyKen | Anyone here familiar with net-snmp? |
| 06:34.54 | sussudio | !stab SexyKen |
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| 06:35.04 | SexyKen | And that was for what? |
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| 06:35.39 | simonrvn | just ask, like you've ben told countless times |
| 06:36.02 | Guerin | hurrah |
| 06:36.05 | SexyKen | I have no idea how to setup net-snmp but I need to set it up on 40 servers that I'll be monitoring |
| 06:36.06 | Guerin | tree day tomorrow |
| 06:36.10 | Guerin | = no work |
| 06:36.27 | Guerin | SexyKen: does it have a manuel page? |
| 06:36.42 | chealer | Guerin: how many days of work in a year do you have? |
| 06:36.58 | Rucas | you realize there is a bot named LoreNZo in here onjoin spamming right? |
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| 06:37.34 | Guerin | chealer: i don't know, honestly. In principle it's 5 days a week for 52 weeks, less 3 weeks vacation and public holidays - but in reality I expect it'll be way less |
| 06:37.53 | Guerin | !ops LoreNZo is a spammer |
| 06:37.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: LoreNZo is a spammer |
| 06:37.57 | helix | ugh |
| 06:38.01 | jm_ | apt-get install snmpd |
| 06:38.03 | Guerin | sorry helpix |
| 06:38.05 | helix | SPAMMERS STOP GO AWAY STOP WE ARE SICK OF YOU STOP |
| 06:38.11 | Guerin | hey |
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| 06:38.22 | SigmaX | I have a Sid box with 60MB of free space... what's the best way to go about fitting X on it? I know they used something called "TinyX" for the iPaq... something similar for Debian? |
| 06:38.32 | helix | Guerin: it's not your fault |
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| 06:38.41 | Guerin | SigmaX: tinyx has been out of debian for ages |
| 06:38.50 | chealer | Guerin: ok, I heard the chinese had lot less vacations |
| 06:38.54 | Guerin | helix: oh... yeah, course not. <heh> |
| 06:39.02 | SigmaX | Guerin: yeah, but is there something similar? |
| 06:39.08 | Guerin | chealer: well, they probably do... but since I'm not in china... |
| 06:39.09 | helix | unless they're korean!! |
| 06:39.11 | helix | then I blame you |
| 06:39.14 | Guerin | SigmaX: not really... |
| 06:39.39 | Guerin | SigmaX: I tried to build tinyx from slink or woody a few months ago, and it just died badly |
| 06:40.05 | SigmaX | Any alternatives? ex. What are the chances of me getting Opie to work on an old Mac ;-) |
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| 06:40.56 | jm_ | opie? as in one time password tools? |
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| 06:41.20 | cat | hey how come when i ssh my box is so damn slow? |
| 06:41.23 | SigmaX | no; As in the Opie Palmtop Environment for PDAs. |
| 06:41.50 | cat | from another pc |
| 06:42.04 | jm_ | ahh libopie then |
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| 06:42.40 | SigmaX | jm_:.... can you fill me in here? I've heard of running Opie on desktops, but couldn't find anything w/ google. |
| 06:42.46 | jm_ | not that, where is it? I remember reading about it |
| 06:43.05 | jm_ | SigmaX: I have no clue, I just remember reading about it sometime in the past |
| 06:43.16 | SigmaX | yeah. |
| 06:43.43 | Guerin | aww |
| 06:43.48 | Guerin | two of my good mates got married this morning |
| 06:43.59 | SigmaX | I have it on my iPaq ;-). Anyway. I could try to Opie support groups... it's worth a shot. I'm just getting tired of nothing but a Shell on this old box... |
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| 06:44.13 | Guerin | i just got im from them, and they're so happy they're practically floating above the earth |
| 06:44.22 | SigmaX | heh |
| 06:44.27 | jm_ | try this: http://tuxmobil.org/debian_linux_pda.html |
| 06:44.57 | jm_ | fools, I wonder how long the feeling will last |
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| 06:45.15 | Guerin | jm_: traditionally until the bill comes in :) |
| 06:45.19 | jm_ | Guerin: haha |
| 06:45.35 | SigmaX | heh |
| 06:45.38 | Guerin | and they will have quite some bill, if I know their taste |
| 06:46.06 | calaniz | bg |
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| 06:48.43 | echotonull | ls |
| 06:48.46 | baffle | cat: Because your DNS is set up wrong, it's timing out on a DNS request. |
| 06:49.11 | jm_ | SexyKen: start with apt-get install snmpd |
| 06:49.34 | simonrvn | SexyKen: then hit the usenet for the snmp faq |
| 06:49.55 | jm_ | they have an useful page on sf.net these days, unlike back then ;_ |
| 06:50.24 | simonrvn | that's true too. i found it very nice |
| 06:50.39 | kneet | just started getting "failed password for (lots of users) from (lots of diff IPs)" in auth.log (they're hitting ssh) - I can't stop the ssh service - it's set to no root login - and I've just disabled password login (keys required now) - anything else I can set? |
| 06:50.49 | simonrvn | comp.protocols.snmp |
| 06:50.57 | jm_ | yeah, they even have an answer for the feller from last week, how to get snmp agent to send a trap when disk space goes low, I wasn't aware of it until I checked the page |
| 06:51.12 | simonrvn | ooh. nice |
| 06:51.12 | jm_ | kneet: firewall? non-standard port? |
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| 06:51.29 | simonrvn | i keep wondering how to set up traps... i'll check it out |
| 06:51.36 | Guerin | kneet: run it on a different port |
| 06:51.42 | simonrvn | i wanna get rid of nagios, and script this stuff |
| 06:51.43 | Guerin | yeah |
| 06:51.53 | kneet | It's got iptables running - but - the IP list is large - I had thought about blocking the IP list |
| 06:52.10 | kneet | Moving port - will look at (have to send out info to some folks on where to find it again :)) |
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| 06:53.10 | debian | what is the webmail package of your recommendation? |
| 06:55.00 | Gathond | I like squirrelmail and it seems to do the job |
| 06:55.18 | simonrvn | squirrelmail :) |
| 06:55.25 | jond3rd | horde ois good too :) |
| 06:55.27 | sep | squirrelmail have worked fine for me for a few yers |
| 06:55.29 | streuner | ilohamail :-) |
| 06:55.29 | jond3rd | s/ois/is |
| 06:55.44 | EchoToNull | !bg |
| 06:55.44 | dpkg | bg is, like, Bulgaria, or background |
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| 06:57.21 | Guerin | debian: mail2web.com |
| 06:57.32 | James | Hey guys :) |
| 06:57.39 | Guerin | and no, I'm not serious |
| 06:58.09 | pyr3 | Maybe someone can clear something up for me... How/Where do X.org and XFree86 differ? |
| 06:58.17 | James | One Question: has anybody a working .jigdo file for the sarge-dvd's ? |
| 06:58.21 | Guerin | !xorg |
| 06:58.21 | dpkg | well, xorg is xorg is an alternative X implementation (fork of XFree86 4.4RC2) from X.Org, current release is X11R6.8. It won't be packaged for Debian until after Sarge release. See http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans for more information. Ask me about 'get xorg' for unofficial xorg debs. Ask yebian for help, he offered. |
| 06:58.37 | Guerin | pyr3: read that faq on deadbeast.net |
| 06:58.40 | CharlesBrown | telnet and telnetd got updated in sarge repos |
| 06:58.40 | CharlesBrown | lol |
| 06:58.46 | CharlesBrown | People actually still use that stuff? |
| 06:59.01 | James | The ones which can be found on the debian.org/deb-installer/... pages doesn't work... |
| 06:59.02 | Guerin | CharlesBrown: telnet is a really useful network diagnostic tool |
| 06:59.08 | jond3rd | telnet is still usefull, telnetd I don't think so |
| 06:59.09 | sep | CharlesBrown: maybe boxes i own can only be controlled thru telnet, so i use that yes |
| 06:59.14 | pyr3 | Guerin: Ok. Freedesktop.org and X.org aren't very informative. :-\ They assume you know a lot of stuff already. |
| 06:59.25 | sep | addmitetly on a secure private management vlan, but.. |
| 06:59.40 | streuner | CharlesBrown: some Hardware-Router haven't any ssh to connect locally, but if you are insane enough just use it. |
| 07:00.06 | debian | Guerin: thanks |
| 07:00.15 | Guerin | pyr3: that faq assumes a lot, too. The real difference is that xfree86 version post 4.4-rc2 are released under a gpl-incompatible license |
| 07:00.33 | sep | CharlesBrown: the idea that nobody uses it is probably why floppydisks are beeing removed from many boxes. i hate that!! |
| 07:00.47 | CharlesBrown | People use floppy disks? |
| 07:00.48 | CharlesBrown | lol |
| 07:00.57 | Guerin | i hate floppy disks |
| 07:01.07 | Guerin | and i refuse to use them in my machines |
| 07:01.23 | sep | CharlesBrown: i do most of my installation from flopyp disks. to 16 MB cf ide cards |
| 07:01.23 | debian | Guerin: Microsoft Exchange webmail?...interesting |
| 07:01.30 | Gathond | sep: why, they are right no one in their right mind uses floppies |
| 07:01.32 | Guerin | that said, I only have machines which are well-supported by cheap ide cd-drives :) |
| 07:01.51 | Guerin | debian: yeah, mail2web does a lot, including ssl and imap if need be |
| 07:01.58 | James | Hello, anyone who can help me findig a set of jigdo-files for the sarge-dvd's which doesn't fail/close after 10 mins? |
| 07:02.00 | sep | Gathond: never said i was right in the head |
| 07:02.11 | Gathond | sep: correct :) |
| 07:02.16 | EchoToNull | practice abstinence, refrain from using floppies |
| 07:02.16 | Guerin | James: you don't need to download the sarve dvd |
| 07:02.33 | Guerin | EchoToNull: abstinence is no kind of educational doctrone |
| 07:02.37 | Guerin | or doctrine |
| 07:02.39 | pyr3 | Guerin: What about all the 'new' features that are being developed into X like alpha blending and such. Are they in the X.org tree or the XFree86 tree? |
| 07:02.42 | James | Guerin, and how should I install then? |
| 07:02.58 | karsten | pyr3: X.org afaik |
| 07:03.07 | Guerin | pyr3: they're in the x.org tree, but they are largely irrelevant in real terms. |
| 07:03.08 | James | the pppoeconf tool isn't in the installer, is It? |
| 07:03.31 | James | and since I only have a DSL con. I need this to contact a server... |
| 07:03.32 | pyr3 | 'real terms'? You mean the effort to modularize everything? |
| 07:03.44 | debian | Guerin: I see.. |
| 07:03.48 | Guerin | pyr3: the big issue is the license; a secondary issue is that the planned modular redesign of how the whole suite works together, and the new features are a third-place |
| 07:03.49 | cat | where can i find the tutorial on setting up DNS servers |
| 07:04.03 | Guerin | pyr3: but yeah, it typically gets viewed the other way around |
| 07:04.10 | Guerin | cat: bind manual |
| 07:04.16 | pyr3 | Oh, I wasn't implying that the split had something to do with the features. |
| 07:04.17 | karsten | cat: cricket book |
| 07:04.22 | Guerin | !d-i james |
| 07:04.23 | dpkg | james, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 07:04.30 | James | cat, did you gave wikipedia.org a chance? or google? |
| 07:04.32 | pyr3 | I was just wondering which one was dev'ing those features. |
| 07:04.40 | Guerin | pyr3: yeah, x.org |
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| 07:05.11 | cat | Guerin: i need a bind manual? |
| 07:05.24 | Guerin | cat: not A bind manual. THE Bind Manual |
| 07:05.28 | James | Guerin, thanks I've been there myself, but can you answer my question, is the tool pppoeconf in the installer or isn't it? |
| 07:05.40 | Guerin | James: oh, I'm not sure. |
| 07:05.55 | James | thx, thankx for reading though... |
| 07:06.00 | shingouz | startx --:1 barfs that there is already one session running on screen 0. is there a howto or does dpkg have a nice factoid about multiple X sessions? |
| 07:06.02 | karsten | cat: There's the Linux Network Administrator's Guide, which is available freely online. |
| 07:06.09 | karsten | cat: ...and includes a section on BIND setup. |
| 07:06.13 | jethro | shingouz: that's -- :1 |
| 07:06.14 | Guerin | James: in any case, it should be on cd1 - which will save you about 3.5 gig of downloading... |
| 07:06.14 | jm_ | shingo:-- :1 |
| 07:06.20 | bodq | how can I get GNU MP support in php4? [repost2] |
| 07:06.24 | shingouz | ah. lemmetry |
| 07:06.45 | jm_ | James: from the d-i FAQ -- Question 26: How do I use netinst over ppp(oe)? |
| 07:06.53 | James | Guerin, I have a flatrate so I dont care... |
| 07:06.55 | Guerin | !beer jm_ |
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| 07:07.33 | James | jm_, thank you very mucho :) |
| 07:07.40 | Luser | Can anyone quickly recommend me a FTP server? |
| 07:07.48 | jm_ | Luser: 127.0.0.1 |
| 07:08.01 | Guerin | Luser: ftp.microsoft.com |
| 07:08.27 | karsten | !beer Guerin |
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| 07:08.40 | Luser | No I mean a piece of software that allows me to host files |
| 07:08.48 | zignig | Luser: apache ? |
| 07:08.50 | Guerin | Luser: vsftpd |
| 07:08.51 | tabris|away | Luser: vsftpd |
| 07:08.56 | Luser | I thought that was HTTP? |
| 07:09.00 | Guerin | zignig: you should know better |
| 07:09.03 | Luser | okay thanks Guerin |
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| 07:09.29 | Luser | Oh yeah, that actually might work better |
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| 07:09.36 | Guerin | unlikley |
| 07:09.39 | Dorado | is bootable raid1 possible under sparc with debian-installer? |
| 07:09.44 | bodq | Guerin: there's a mod_ftp for apache2 |
| 07:09.53 | bodq | Guerin: AFAIR |
| 07:09.58 | shingouz | it really was the missign space in the startx. jethro, jm-: thanks :) |
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| 07:10.08 | Guerin | bodq: thanks for reminding me of that, which I just said. |
| 07:10.18 | Guerin | wow, my grammar is teh bad today |
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| 07:11.54 | bodq | Guerin: ??? |
| 07:12.07 | bodq | Guerin: ah |
| 07:12.12 | bodq | Guerin: didn't notice that /me |
| 07:12.16 | bodq | Guerin: sorry |
| 07:12.33 | buu | Eh, I was trying to play something with mplayer and I got this lovely error "undefined symbol: NeAACDecOpen", anyone have an idea? |
| 07:13.25 | Guerin | buu: sounds like yoou should ask mplayer dev |
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| 07:14.50 | peterS | Guerin: more likely this is a packaging problem marillat could fix |
| 07:15.12 | Guerin | peterS: what makes you say that? |
| 07:15.24 | Guerin | I picked it as a codec interface bug |
| 07:15.32 | peterS | Guerin: it's about an external library, and I'm guessing it's about how that library is packaged |
| 07:15.33 | Guerin | but I could be dead wrong, of course |
| 07:15.40 | peterS | how the library is compiled, that is |
| 07:15.52 | Guerin | hrm, ok. |
| 07:16.01 | buu | peterS: How so? |
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| 07:16.13 | Guerin | i thought most codec libs came in as binary blobs |
| 07:16.18 | Guerin | is this not the case? |
| 07:16.19 | peterS | Guerin: well, there is that |
| 07:16.25 | peterS | some of 'em do |
| 07:16.39 | peterS | buu: I don't know enough about mplayer's architecture to say for sure, really |
| 07:16.54 | Guerin | well, clearly, there are free codecs, but AAC isn't free, right? |
| 07:17.00 | buu | =[ |
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| 07:17.45 | tabris|away | MP3 isn't free... |
| 07:18.11 | Guerin | tabris|away: well, that depends who you ask. |
| 07:18.17 | TBBle | ACC _is_ an MPEG codec though, isn't it? Just needs licensing? Or am I thinking of something else? |
| 07:18.19 | buu | I'm pretty sure I installed mplayer via marillat |
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| 07:19.15 | Guerin | tabris|away: implementation of an encoder is encumbered |
| 07:19.50 | roteskreuz | dear all |
| 07:20.00 | Guerin | this sounds like the beginning of an 'I don't love you anymore' letter |
| 07:20.16 | baegle | I'm trying to install php4 with support for postgresql and I'm not sure how to go about doing this with apt-get. I tried -o but the phpinfo.php page stil shows the option --without-pgsql. Does anyone know how to do this? |
| 07:20.28 | Supaplex | why after installing php4-pgsql does function_exists('pg_connect') still return false? |
| 07:20.52 | buu | Because php sucks, duh! |
| 07:20.58 | tabris|away | baegle: sure you installed the postgres devel package? |
| 07:20.58 | Supaplex | well yea |
| 07:21.02 | tabris|away | baegle: heh. |
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| 07:21.07 | tabris|away | -> buu |
| 07:21.11 | TBBle | Wow. Did the exact same question just come from two different people? |
| 07:21.17 | Supaplex | yes |
| 07:21.18 | Supaplex | :P |
| 07:21.18 | chealer | Supaplex: did you restart Apache (just the easiest guess...) |
| 07:21.24 | Supaplex | it's cgi |
| 07:21.36 | bob2 | enable it in the php config |
| 07:21.40 | buu | peterS: Fix mplayer =[ |
| 07:21.44 | bob2 | also, php does suck, for this and many other reasons |
| 07:21.46 | peterS | buu: I don't use mplayer |
| 07:21.49 | Supaplex | I'll double check, but I believe it is |
| 07:21.58 | buu | peterS: What do you use? |
| 07:22.04 | bob2 | baegle: install php4-pgsql or whatever |
| 07:22.06 | Supaplex | extension=pgsql.so |
| 07:22.09 | Supaplex | yea, it's in there |
| 07:22.10 | peterS | buu: right now, the buggy package I use is xterm. I need to fix something in that |
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| 07:22.21 | Supaplex | I'll check bts |
| 07:22.30 | Supaplex | it is sarge hehe |
| 07:22.31 | bob2 | Supaplex: does code that uses it work? |
| 07:22.52 | baegle | bob2: already installed |
| 07:22.52 | Supaplex | it's phppgadmin |
| 07:23.27 | buu | peterS: Er, what? |
| 07:23.42 | peterS | buu: things I'm interested in fixing at least one bug in right now: xterm |
| 07:24.14 | baegle | tabris|away: I didn't have postgres-dev installed, I'm trying it now |
| 07:24.25 | buu | peterS: Why xterm over the other terms? |
| 07:24.41 | Guerin | because x is the unixy letter |
| 07:24.42 | peterS | buu: because it's got an annoying bug in it that I'm looking into at the moment |
| 07:24.59 | buu | peterS: So use aterm |
| 07:25.18 | peterS | buu: I used to. but I think I like xterm better. or, I will, as soon as I fix this bug |
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| 07:25.50 | TBBle | Supaplex: You're not using an Apache module for CGI that loads the process into memory or anything? |
| 07:25.58 | baegle | hmmm, installed postgresql-dev, reinstalled php4 with -o with-pgsql=shared, restarted apache, still nothing. Any hints? |
| 07:26.25 | TBBle | baegle: Nothing in the error logs? |
| 07:26.33 | buu | peterS: What is the difference? |
| 07:26.37 | Supaplex | TBBle: just plain old cgi. |
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| 07:26.55 | baegle | everything is working fine, just --without-pgsql is still set |
| 07:26.59 | TBBle | Supaplex: Gah. Try running the php4 command line manualy, and see if it's available _there_. |
| 07:27.06 | bob2 | baegle: er, how would reinstalling it help? |
| 07:27.13 | ubuntu | can somebody help me |
| 07:27.18 | bob2 | baegle: reinstalling isn't going to recompile it with postgresql support |
| 07:27.21 | peterS | buu: I like the option to use xft font specs in xterm. not that I'm doing so now. but other little random features, which I can't recall. xterm is actively developed |
| 07:27.22 | bob2 | ubuntu: no. go to #ubuntu. |
| 07:27.23 | streuner | ubuntu: /topic |
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| 07:27.42 | baegle | bob2: because it appears to be an option used during .configure, which is done prior to compiling IIRC |
| 07:27.43 | tarzeau | dpkg acronyms |
| 07:27.44 | dpkg | acronyms is, like, at http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/abbrev.html, or at http://rn4.informatik.uni-kl.de/people/thees/acronyms.html |
| 07:27.45 | Overand | i'm surprised the nick wasn't taken |
| 07:27.53 | bob2 | baegle: yes, exactly |
| 07:27.56 | ubuntu | ok, I have some problems with the xfree86 server |
| 07:28.12 | tarzeau | ubuntu: do you have debian? |
| 07:28.12 | bob2 | baegle: so reinstalling won't help unless you download the php4 source package, rebuild it with a different set of ./configure flags and install that |
| 07:28.18 | streuner | ubuntu: hörst du schlecht? |
| 07:28.20 | bob2 | ubuntu: you're in the wrong channel, sorry. |
| 07:28.23 | ubuntu | yes, I have |
| 07:28.25 | tarzeau | ubuntu: why do i have the feeling you have ubuntu... |
| 07:28.30 | tarzeau | ubuntu: and not debian! |
| 07:28.33 | baegle | bob2: hmmm, then what is apt-get's -o for? |
| 07:28.36 | bob2 | ubuntu: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1" print out? |
| 07:28.46 | ubuntu | my touchpad isn't working right |
| 07:28.54 | bob2 | baegle: I've not heard of/used that option, but it certainly doesn't recbuild anything |
| 07:29.00 | bob2 | baegle: oh, it pases options to apt |
| 07:29.02 | peterS | is 'ubuntu' another nick for 'debian'? |
| 07:29.09 | ubuntu | ok, just a moment |
| 07:29.09 | bob2 | baegle: like telling it which temp dir to use or whatever |
| 07:29.17 | cat | where can i find named.conf ? |
| 07:29.20 | cat | on /etc/bind ? |
| 07:29.25 | bob2 | cat: in the bind9 package |
| 07:29.26 | Overand | peterS: what? haha |
| 07:29.30 | baegle | bob2: hmm, and this option is not used when compiling the package? |
| 07:29.34 | bob2 | cat: yes |
| 07:29.37 | streuner | peterS: it would be really strange... |
| 07:29.44 | bob2 | baegle: it is indeed used, and the support is in the php4-pgsql package |
| 07:29.45 | peterS | Overand: there used to be a chap 'debian' on this channel. still is, actually |
| 07:29.50 | Overand | ah |
| 07:29.55 | baegle | bob2: which is installed |
| 07:30.05 | Overand | What command spits out what the distro identifies itself as anyway |
| 07:30.11 | bob2 | baegle: then perhaps you're seeing the same bug as Supaplex is investigating |
| 07:30.30 | drac | Overand: ls /etc/*version* is good start :) |
| 07:30.57 | baegle | bob2: I'm seeing that PHP is saying "Configure Command" contains" --without-pgsql" when looking at phpinfo() |
| 07:31.03 | Overand | drac: interesting |
| 07:31.04 | bob2 | baegle: I'd ignore that |
| 07:31.13 | Overand | thanks |
| 07:31.15 | bob2 | baegle: and look at "apt-cache show php4-pgsql" |
| 07:31.36 | TBBle | baegle: What version of PHP4 are we talking about here? Unstable/sarge/woody? |
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| 07:31.45 | bob2 | TBBle: sarge. |
| 07:31.46 | baegle | 4.3.10-10 |
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| 07:32.55 | aliasptr | Is anyone using XMLTV on Debian Sid? |
| 07:32.56 | baegle | bob2: I am looking at the show for php4-pgsql, am I looking for something particular? |
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| 07:33.18 | bob2 | baegle: the fact it exists and the package description |
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| 07:33.19 | aliasptr | I have a problem with tv_sort saying "cannot parse date '20050404000000 -4000' at /usr/bin/tv_sort line 504" googling has been fruitless |
| 07:33.24 | tarzeau | aliasptr: that sounds just sick |
| 07:33.29 | bob2 | baegle: there is no need to recompile php4 to support $blah |
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| 07:33.54 | baegle | bob2: as I said, php4-pgsql is indeed there |
| 07:34.06 | bob2 | yes, I know |
| 07:34.14 | buu | dondelelcaro: Who was "Control" ? |
| 07:34.18 | bob2 | I'm pointing out that you don't need to recompile php4, but that you may have found a bug |
| 07:34.23 | simonrvn | spam bot |
| 07:34.24 | TBBle | Uhh, php4-pgsql is seperate source from php4 from the look of it. |
| 07:34.29 | buu | simonrvn: oh. |
| 07:34.46 | dondelelcaro | buu: onjoin spammer |
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| 07:34.57 | bob2 | that 81/8 netblock is full of crap |
| 07:35.06 | mud | i installed a base sarge system and then installed gnome and im missing a package that has to do with downloading, when i click on some links i cant download. does anyone know what package might deal with downloads? |
| 07:35.19 | tarzeau | mud: haha i find this funny |
| 07:35.26 | simonrvn | so is 85/8, and 4, and 64 |
| 07:35.33 | bob2 | that question is missing a ton of information |
| 07:35.46 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 07:35.50 | bob2 | like what browser? an example of a link? what 'cant download' means? |
| 07:35.59 | dondelelcaro | bob2: yeah, it's somewhere in .ro... 81.196.64.0 - 81.196.95.25 et al |
| 07:35.59 | mud | tarzeau i know i shouldnt have done it that way in hindsight |
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| 07:36.30 | tarzeau | mud: i've never seen the meta package gnome in testing+ to ever work without manual intervention |
| 07:36.36 | TBBle | OK. phpinfo _with_ pgsql install still says --without-pgsql, because the php4 itself was compiled that way. Do you get a pgsql section further down the page? |
| 07:36.38 | tarzeau | same applies for kde |
| 07:36.54 | mud | firefox and this is the link that wont work ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/ |
| 07:37.05 | Overand | well that's an FTP url |
| 07:37.06 | Overand | and |
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| 07:37.13 | Overand | maybe that ftp site is just down |
| 07:37.21 | Overand | can you get to other FTP sites? |
| 07:37.22 | mud | tarzeau meta package? |
| 07:37.23 | dondelelcaro | TBBle: php was compiled without pgsql, but you just add the pgsql.so in your php.ini. This happens automagically when you install php4-pgsql |
| 07:37.23 | baegle | TBBle: I do indeed, is that evidence of my support? |
| 07:37.26 | patad | whats the conf that holds the DocumentRoot, etc. for /www ? |
| 07:37.28 | Overand | like, for example, ftp://ftp.cdrom.com |
| 07:37.33 | Overand | (which might still exist) |
| 07:37.41 | TBBle | baegle: Yes. That means the module's loaded. |
| 07:37.41 | tarzeau | mud: a package that has nearly no data, but only dependencies |
| 07:37.52 | TBBle | dondelelcaro: I realise that. I'm diagnosing others. ^_^ |
| 07:37.55 | drp | is there a command you can use at the terminal to display system temps. ? |
| 07:37.56 | tarzeau | mud: gnome, kde, gnustep are meta packages |
| 07:38.02 | mud | i tried other ftp site and it worked but someone here tried that link for doom3 and it worked for them |
| 07:38.07 | Overand | drp: look into lmsensors |
| 07:38.10 | TBBle | Supaplex: Same question. ^_^ |
| 07:38.13 | streuner | If you can't connect in an i-net cafe, because it says you run an Open Proxy, could it be that the other clients don't run one? |
| 07:38.49 | streuner | s/cafe/cafe to IRC/ |
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| 07:39.02 | TBBle | Is it just me, or did packages.debian.org die? |
| 07:39.10 | simonrvn | /topic |
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| 07:39.35 | SlayerXP | morning hash-dweebians |
| 07:39.36 | mud | tarzeau i have package "gnome" |
| 07:39.40 | TBBle | Thanks. That's weird. I can still see the other sites. |
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| 07:39.57 | Supaplex | I figured out my issue with php4-pgsql. I had old copies of the cgi+ini in the cgi directory. (/var/www/www.example.com/cgi-bin/) |
| 07:39.58 | tarzeau | mud: i don't envy you |
| 07:39.59 | simonrvn | SlayerXP: mornin' winbloze killa' |
| 07:40.04 | TBBle | Duh, forget I said that. *mirrors* |
| 07:40.04 | dondelelcaro | TBBle: yes, because there are many machines in the debian.org domain |
| 07:40.13 | Supaplex | it's working fine now. |
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| 07:40.30 | TBBle | Good. That just leaves baegle. |
| 07:40.34 | mud | tarzeau how should i have installed gnome? |
| 07:40.41 | baegle | TBBle, bob2: I actually just tested it now, I'm all good |
| 07:40.43 | tarzeau | mud: if you ask me. not at all :) |
| 07:40.51 | mud | hehe |
| 07:40.51 | Guerin | mud: you shouldn't have |
| 07:41.00 | mud | i love gnome |
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| 07:41.12 | tarzeau | mud: i find it utterly ugly |
| 07:41.18 | TBBle | Yay! I can de-pgsql my Sarge box again. ^_^ |
| 07:41.23 | starscalling | oh wow |
| 07:41.29 | starscalling | lots of ppl :P |
| 07:41.37 | mud | ive changed it alot its ugly to start out |
| 07:41.41 | Guerin | lots of parts per litre? |
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| 07:42.00 | mud | very cusomizable |
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| 07:42.21 | tarzeau | mud: screenshot? |
| 07:42.48 | mud | tarzeau how can i send a screenshot? |
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| 07:43.05 | tarzeau | mud: put it in /var/www and install apache |
| 07:43.09 | chealer | mud: did you try with another browser? |
| 07:43.15 | tarzeau | mud: remove all firewalls and tell us your ip address |
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| 07:43.30 | mud | chealer no ill try right now |
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| 07:44.06 | mud | funny |
| 07:44.36 | mud | chealer doesnt work with other browser either |
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| 07:44.55 | Gnabbe | i'm used to running freebsd and when i want the lines in a file reversed i usually just do "tail -r <file>". But now that I have debian that version of tail doesn't support -r. Is there another small utility i can use? |
| 07:45.28 | bodq | Gnabbe: tac |
| 07:45.38 | starscalling | arg |
| 07:45.47 | lucasjb | how do i reconfigure my system to use md5 passwords? it appears to be using crypt - dpkg-reconfigure something? |
| 07:45.53 | chealer | mud: try to get it with wget |
| 07:45.56 | starscalling | so ive read the topic and tried to google etc >.< |
| 07:45.58 | Gnabbe | bodq: thanks |
| 07:46.20 | starscalling | im just not seeing why i would only have sound coming out of 2.1 of my 5.1 speakers |
| 07:46.24 | simonrvn | lucasjb: base-config |
| 07:46.29 | mud | chealer ill give it a shot |
| 07:46.32 | lucasjb | simonrvn, thanks |
| 07:46.32 | simonrvn | or do it manually |
| 07:46.35 | starscalling | im sure its something i messed up somewhere :P |
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| 07:47.42 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: alternatively, see /usr/share/doc/passwd/README.Debian |
| 07:47.52 | lucasjb | thanks |
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| 07:49.46 | lucasjb | simonrvn, hrm i think i've broken something re: libpam-ldap... again :( |
| 07:50.07 | plusmehr | hello together, can somebody help me |
| 07:50.11 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 07:50.13 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Sarge Base+Standard frozen; installer: /msg dpkg d-i | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | Java -> /msg dpkg java | Spambots? /umode +E; Ask for an op | No, gnome 2.10 and kde 3.4 are not packaged yet | d-i rc3 out! /msg dpkg d-i | gluck (debian.org et al.) down, still fs |
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| 07:50.39 | streuner | plusmehr: X - problem? ;-) |
| 07:50.48 | plusmehr | I have some problems with my touchpad, it works quiet not realley |
| 07:50.59 | mud | chealer what option do i use for wget? ive not used it |
| 07:51.02 | streuner | plusmehr: what distro do you use? |
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| 07:51.14 | plusmehr | debain, what else? |
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| 07:51.41 | pragma_ | dondelelcaro, "still fs" ? |
| 07:51.49 | pragma_ | (at the end of the topic) |
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| 07:52.11 | pragma_ | Still a filesystem issue? |
| 07:52.12 | streuner | plusmehr: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
| 07:52.12 | dondelelcaro | damnit... |
| 07:52.13 | pragma_ | Is that what that means? |
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| 07:52.17 | brimstone | any idea when debian.org et al. will be back up? |
| 07:52.20 | plusmehr | streuner , sory but I must go now to work , thanks a lot |
| 07:52.33 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Sarge Base+Standard frozen; installer: /msg dpkg d-i | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | Java -> /msg dpkg java | Spambots? /umode +E; Ask for an op | No, gnome 2.10 and kde 3.4 are not packaged yet | d-i rc3 out! /msg dpkg d-i | gluck (debian.org) down, now fscking |
| 07:52.38 | simonrvn | ah |
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| 07:54.08 | chealer | mud: sorry, I don't know. if I try just wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run it fails |
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| 07:54.44 | mud | chealer: yeah me too |
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| 07:55.53 | bodq | chealer, mud: idsoftware has limit on the number of simulatenous anonymous connections. maybe the problem is that their servers are overloaded? they very ofter are |
| 07:56.38 | hja123 | why is it that my mail sent fr yahoo to the debian user list is not received? |
| 07:57.00 | hja123 | anyone experienced this problem before? |
| 07:57.08 | mud | bodq: its a problem i get on many downloads it prints a page of code on the screen insted of downloading the file |
| 07:57.12 | chealer | mud, modq: you must be right, I just retried the same command and it worked |
| 07:57.28 | bodq | mud, a page of code? |
| 07:57.42 | chealer | bodq: it displays th .sh in firefox |
| 07:57.48 | bodq | chealer: :) |
| 07:58.05 | bodq | mud, use wget or gftp |
| 07:58.12 | mud | bodq: yeah its starts with a script the a bunch of symbols |
| 07:58.45 | bodq | mud, the firefox is not being told that it's a download so it tries to display it as good as it can |
| 07:58.47 | mud | bodq: wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/ didnt work do i need an option? |
| 07:59.15 | bodq | mud, you must put there a full url to the file |
| 07:59.23 | bodq | mud, lftp is also good |
| 07:59.31 | mud | bodq: ohhhhhhhhhh |
| 07:59.31 | starscalling | er sorry to be repetative |
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| 07:59.56 | starscalling | but is there a driver for soundblaster 2 that is special or something |
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| 08:00.10 | starscalling | my system is only outputting sound in 2 of my speakers |
| 08:00.19 | starscalling | ive got a 5.1 setup :/ |
| 08:00.55 | mud | bodq: wget worked thx |
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| 08:02.06 | possie | anyone know a nice photo browser in linux? |
| 08:02.12 | bodq | possie: gqview |
| 08:02.14 | kaner | gqview, pornview |
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| 08:02.14 | streuner | gqview |
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| 08:03.23 | Caeies[taff] | heya all |
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| 08:04.19 | Caeies[taff] | I get some trouble with mozilla-thunderbird/firefox (debian packages) remotely from a amd32 (running testing) and an amd64 (running unstable) |
| 08:04.29 | Caeies[taff] | I never get the main windows |
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| 08:04.55 | Caeies[taff] | was working before, I was thinking solve this problem by purging the font cache |
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| 08:05.09 | Caeies[taff] | but this time it doesn't solve it |
| 08:05.24 | Caeies[taff] | any idea ? |
| 08:05.28 | zinx | purging the font cache? |
| 08:05.40 | zinx | Caeies[taff]: is it giving any errors? |
| 08:05.40 | Caeies[taff] | yes |
| 08:05.47 | Caeies[taff] | no error at all |
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| 08:06.03 | Caeies[taff] | I try to do sync X and --g-fatal-warnings nothing happens |
| 08:06.13 | Luser | What was the command to reconfigure exim4? |
| 08:06.25 | Luser | or my MTA? |
| 08:06.30 | zinx | Caeies[taff]: sure you're telling it the correct display? |
| 08:06.39 | kaner | Luser: man dpkg-reconfigure |
| 08:06.41 | Caeies[taff] | zinx, I get the password dialog box |
| 08:06.51 | zinx | what password dialog box? |
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| 08:07.17 | Caeies[taff] | from mozilla-thunderbird, when launching, it ask for mail password |
| 08:07.31 | zinx | so it does show a window then |
| 08:07.41 | Caeies[taff] | Yes but not the main windows |
| 08:07.47 | zinx | do you have a window list anywhere in your WM/desktop environment? |
| 08:07.57 | Caeies[taff] | yes |
| 08:08.03 | Caeies[taff] | don't appear |
| 08:08.11 | zinx | not even the password dialog? |
| 08:08.13 | Caeies[taff] | when doing a xlsclient I see it |
| 08:08.18 | Caeies[taff] | zinx, no |
| 08:08.32 | zinx | get a _decent_ window list |
| 08:08.43 | zinx | one that actually, you know, lists the windows |
| 08:08.45 | Caeies[taff] | I recheck |
| 08:09.09 | bodq | Caeies[taff]: pry "ps x" and see if a mozilla is running |
| 08:09.12 | bodq | *try |
| 08:09.23 | Caeies[taff] | zinx, I use an ssh connection |
| 08:09.27 | Caeies[taff] | with -CX |
| 08:09.50 | Caeies[taff] | never got trouble for 8 month |
| 08:09.55 | zinx | Caeies[taff]: it should still list the window |
| 08:09.59 | Caeies[taff] | and 2 times in less than 2 weeks |
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| 08:10.07 | zinx | Caeies[taff]: (i.e., the window you're seeing for the password) |
| 08:10.16 | Caeies[taff] | zinx, yes I get it listed |
| 08:10.22 | Caeies[taff] | the password windows |
| 08:10.23 | zinx | oh |
| 08:10.26 | Caeies[taff] | but not the main |
| 08:10.36 | zinx | do you have multiple virtual desktops? |
| 08:10.44 | Caeies[taff] | zinx, yes 4 |
| 08:10.48 | Caeies[taff] | in fluxbox |
| 08:10.55 | zinx | and it's not on any of them? |
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| 08:11.00 | Caeies[taff] | no |
| 08:11.09 | zinx | not in the window list on any of them? :) |
| 08:11.15 | bodq | Caeies[taff]: 'ps x' !!! |
| 08:11.18 | Caeies[taff] | no where :) |
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| 08:11.28 | Caeies[taff] | bodq, on which machine ? |
| 08:11.28 | jnc | dondelelcaro: thanks again |
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| 08:12.07 | Caeies[taff] | bodq, running on the remote machine |
| 08:12.11 | bodq | Caeies[taff]: on the "server", i.e. on that which DOESN'T run X server |
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| 08:12.31 | Caeies[taff] | bodq, it's running in fg |
| 08:12.35 | zinx | Caeies[taff]: xwininfo -root -tree | grep '("Gecko' | wc -l |
| 08:12.50 | zinx | that'll show if firefox's windows are somewhere, anyway |
| 08:12.54 | zinx | maybe thunderbird too |
| 08:13.07 | Caeies[taff] | I get ffx running on my local machine |
| 08:13.11 | bodq | Caeies[taff]: usually a password box indicated that another instance is running |
| 08:13.27 | bodq | Caeies[taff]: if you can not find it, try killing it |
| 08:13.34 | bodq | Caeies[taff]: you might lose data tought |
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| 08:14.19 | Caeies[taff] | bodq, that's my 3rd killall mozilla-thunderbird-bin :) |
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| 08:15.45 | Caeies[taff] | ok |
| 08:15.49 | chealer | possie: I'm glad you asked that question about the pictures browser :) |
| 08:15.57 | Caeies[taff] | I kill all instances of mozilla-thunderbird |
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| 08:16.14 | Caeies[taff] | I try to execute it |
| 08:16.36 | possie | chealer: hehe, yeah that gqview was verry nice :-) |
| 08:16.44 | possie | bodq: thanks for the tip :-) |
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| 08:16.51 | rixth | Can anyone tell me if it's just me, can you get to www.audioscrobbler.com ? I'm unable to. |
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| 08:17.16 | colde89 | how many disks can i put on a ide-port? |
| 08:17.17 | bodq | Caeies[taff]: you're cruel BIRD KILLER AND EXECUTOR!!! |
| 08:17.28 | Caeies[taff] | bodq Yes I am ... |
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| 08:17.30 | bodq | colde89: ide-port? |
| 08:17.37 | bodq | colde89: like that thing in the MB? |
| 08:17.38 | tonix | hi guys, is there a way to automatically partitioning a disk with fdisk? thanks a lot |
| 08:17.46 | simonrvn | no |
| 08:17.51 | colde89 | bodq: no how many drives |
| 08:17.57 | chealer | possie: BTW, I just tried KView, which seems to do the job too, though probably not as good |
| 08:18.03 | tonix | and with cfdisk? |
| 08:18.16 | simonrvn | no |
| 08:18.20 | Caeies[taff] | bodq, I'm thinking about confusion for mozilla-thunderbird in using ffx instances windows ... |
| 08:18.21 | bodq | colde89: i'm not sure you're asking the correct question, but i think the answer is 42 |
| 08:18.35 | colde89 | bodq: on scsi it is 7 drives |
| 08:18.41 | bodq | Caeies[taff]: hmm |
| 08:18.43 | tonix | <simonrvn> so, what could be the method to achieve so? |
| 08:18.47 | simonrvn | tonix: take a look at (ugh) partman and friends, from d-i (debian-installer) |
| 08:18.52 | bodq | colde89: right |
| 08:18.58 | bodq | colde89: maybe even 15 |
| 08:19.09 | bodq | Caeies[taff]: elaborate |
| 08:19.11 | colde89 | bodq: ok thanks .. |
| 08:19.22 | Caeies[taff] | bodq, I ran the command with xroot |
| 08:19.40 | Caeies[taff] | xwininfo sorry |
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| 08:20.00 | Caeies[taff] | and see that the password dialog box seems to be the children of ffx |
| 08:20.08 | Caeies[taff] | not thrd |
| 08:20.11 | tonix | thank simonrvn |
| 08:20.30 | LEON_PIZDETCH | hello my friends |
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| 08:21.15 | LEON_PIZDETCH | piderazti |
| 08:21.20 | pothead | mornin |
| 08:21.21 | chealer | if I try to open gqview in a directory with [certain] Flash files (those swf-player can't render) and swf-player is installed, gqview segfaults. do you think I should report that to gqview or swf-player? |
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| 08:21.33 | LEON_PIZDETCH | ÷åãî |
| 08:21.39 | LEON_PIZDETCH | ÿ âàñ íå ïîíåìàòü |
| 08:21.45 | dondelelcaro | LEON_PIZDETCH: please stop that. |
| 08:22.00 | dondelelcaro | chealer: gqview, most likely. |
| 08:22.01 | LEON_PIZDETCH | ya ya zer good |
| 08:22.38 | bodq | LEON_PIZDETCH: get lost. idi nafig. |
| 08:22.42 | simonrvn | ffs |
| 08:22.53 | LEON_PIZDETCH | drug |
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| 08:22.55 | chealer | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 08:22.57 | LEON_PIZDETCH | idi nahui |
| 08:23.16 | LEON_PIZDETCH | chego |
| 08:23.31 | Caeies[taff] | bodq, & zinx ok that's not a problem with ffs |
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| 08:23.34 | Caeies[taff] | -s+x |
| 08:25.06 | Caeies[taff] | zinx, I try your command I get : 9 ligne with only Mozilla-thunderbird |
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| 08:26.34 | streuner | LEON_PIZDETCH: change your nick, please, because i get 'eye-cancer' when i read that :-) |
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| 08:27.14 | peterS | streuner: it includes the word 'etch' which is Debian 3.2 |
| 08:27.15 | streuner | LEON_NEPIZDETCH: i meant the CAPS |
| 08:27.46 | streuner | peterS: heh |
| 08:27.47 | LEON_123 | tak lutcshe?? |
| 08:27.51 | LEON_123 | :) |
| 08:27.56 | LEON_123 | (: |
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| 08:28.26 | streuner | peterS: pardon? |
| 08:28.43 | LEON_123 | êòî ïèäàð? |
| 08:29.15 | peterS | LEON_123: we all know how to make iso-8859-1 characters. impress in some other way please |
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| 08:29.44 | LEON_123 | i dont read english |
| 08:29.51 | LEON_123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:29.53 | LEON_123 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:30.03 | tarzeau | shark -> |\ \o/ <- LEON_123 |
| 08:30.42 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 08:31.55 | Caeies[taff] | bodq, & zinx I'm lost, The main windows are "present" if I ask xwininfo but with a geometry of 200x200 and they never appears |
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| 08:36.12 | alex_joni | greetings |
| 08:36.22 | alex_joni | short question about exim4/debian |
| 08:36.45 | alex_joni | how can I configure to get mail to 2 domains (foo.bar.com and foo.bar.bar.com) ? |
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| 08:37.53 | peterS | alex_joni: are you the guy doing news.com.com? (: |
| 08:38.01 | alex_joni | nope ;) |
| 08:38.28 | alex_joni | I wonder if it's only a DNS-alias problem or also exim4 related |
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| 08:42.40 | petemc | alex_joni: what exactly is the problem |
| 08:43.19 | alex_joni | I have a host that has an alias in the main DNS server |
| 08:43.28 | alex_joni | and I want to be able to get mail on both names |
| 08:44.07 | alex_joni | if I send mail to foo.bar.com I receive an cryptic error from exim4 (lowest numbered MX record points to local host) |
| 08:44.29 | petemc | that usually means you should put the domain in local_domains |
| 08:44.53 | alex_joni | don't seem to find local_domains |
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| 08:45.13 | largezhang | q |
| 08:46.24 | opteek | I just compiled the latest kernel I fethced via apt get kernel-sources, now should I apt-get the newer header files before i compile the kernel or even at all? |
| 08:47.29 | zignig | tarzeau: nice ascii are by the way. |
| 08:47.34 | zignig | s/are/art |
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| 08:49.08 | opteek | anyone??? |
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| 08:49.27 | schelm | hi, i try to build evidence but i get the following error "error: `IMLIB_ACQUIRE' undeclared (first use in this function)" does anybody know whar i am missing? |
| 08:49.35 | streuner | opteek: /msg dpkg kp |
| 08:49.41 | kaner | opteek: you got the complete sources? then there is no need to get the headerfiles |
| 08:50.08 | kaner | schelm: imlib? |
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| 08:50.23 | schelm | kaner, imlib1 is already installed |
| 08:50.33 | schelm | kaner, imlib1-dev is already installed, too |
| 08:51.09 | opteek | since I just tried compiling it the non debian way, should i do a make mrproper now? |
| 08:51.18 | opteek | or can I just use kpkg |
| 08:51.25 | streuner | !tell opteek -about kp |
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| 08:52.12 | opteek | build-essential is not a package?: |
| 08:52.14 | kaner | opteek: why "now" ? |
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| 08:52.38 | streuner | dpkg, info build-essential |
| 08:52.40 | dpkg | build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1 (sid), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB |
| 08:52.45 | opteek | because I already have the new vmlinuz and the .o files. i wanted to clean it out before i kpkg it |
| 08:53.35 | streuner | opteek: get the vanila source at kernel.org and read newbiedoc.sf.net, but tell us why do you think you need an custom kernel? |
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| 08:54.03 | opteek | streuner: bah, for sound and usb and apm support |
| 08:54.07 | kaner | streuner: why should he get sources from kernel.org? |
| 08:54.29 | xophEr | how can I |
| 08:55.20 | xophEr | eh, enter got in the way, how can I save the state of my alsa-settings? every time I boot, half of my speakers are silent |
| 08:55.46 | streuner | xophEr: aumix and press 'S' for safe |
| 08:55.52 | drp | javac for debian ... what's the package name |
| 08:56.00 | xophEr | allright, thansk |
| 08:56.15 | streuner | s/safe/save/ |
| 08:56.42 | streuner | kaner: less headaches |
| 08:57.09 | kaner | :) |
| 08:57.12 | opteek | does cerillat have sun java sdk? |
| 08:57.32 | streuner | no, marillat hasn't an java package |
| 08:57.54 | cafuego | ca != ma |
| 08:58.17 | streuner | use java.sun.com or use one of blackdown's packages |
| 08:58.21 | streuner | !java |
| 08:58.22 | dpkg | a platform independent OO language. Server-side Java is extremely powerful due to the threads capabilities and the huge number of APIs available. On the other hand, Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java> and <sid mozilla java> (for starters). write once, run nowhere, or write once, run away |
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| 08:58.35 | kaner | streuner: i suggest the java sdk from sun.com |
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| 08:59.43 | streuner | cafuego: what's 'cerillat'? |
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| 09:00.27 | opteek | its be mixing the two deb archives names together |
| 09:00.33 | opteek | i think it sounds better |
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| 09:01.29 | Humbe | Any tips on how to get a compaq nc6000 docking station to work?.. I can use the monitor, but attached keyboard and mouse is dead.. Are they just additional USB devices or is there some docking station tricks? |
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| 09:04.21 | raghu | hi all |
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| 09:04.36 | otje | I have a page which I can open in firefox, but with wget it gets 403 error.. I already changed user agent but doesn't change |
| 09:04.40 | otje | and way I can wget this page? |
| 09:05.10 | xelam | probably referrer based block |
| 09:05.11 | dondelelcaro | otje: depends on why you're getting the 403. You may need to set a --referer or similar |
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| 09:06.00 | otje | well I can open the page from a blank firefox |
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| 09:06.15 | otje | is there a way I can capture the exact HTTP request from firefox? |
| 09:06.24 | serj | i have a small problem recently i used usbflash device in gnome and it did work more than fine it was mounted and shown in nautilus but now i have this strange problem when inserted the flash device is not mounted as before |
| 09:06.30 | jm_ | otje: tcpdump/ethereal/... or the live headers extension |
| 09:06.33 | serj | other users does not seem to have this problem |
| 09:06.40 | serj | do you know why |
| 09:06.53 | otje | jm_: I was looking at tcpdump but it only gives me the tcp headers |
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| 09:07.28 | jm_ | otje: tcpdump -s 0 -w mydump 'host offendinghost' ; ethereal mydump and analyse it with ethereal |
| 09:08.21 | otje | ok so it is tcpdump AND ethereal, I'll have a look... liveheaders seems promising also, thanks! |
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| 09:08.51 | jm_ | you can also use just ethereal, it has the same functionality |
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| 09:09.33 | simonrvn | what's the command to get emacs to do the syntax highlighting? like vim's :set syntax=foo ? |
| 09:09.59 | billyoc | simonrvn: font-lock-mode |
| 09:10.06 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 09:10.11 | p2-mate | hi simonrvn |
| 09:10.19 | simonrvn | hey p2 |
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| 09:14.07 | LaVey|Work | mornin all |
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| 09:15.35 | LaVey|Work | i have a question regarding compiling drivers, i have a later version for my orinoco card (rfmon patch).. when i make i get a makefile:35 error *** the kernel source is not configured |
| 09:16.05 | LaVey|Work | can some1 tell me what this means ? |
| 09:16.07 | LaVey|Work | :) |
| 09:16.25 | shingouz | LaVey|Work: obviously you need to configure the kernel source before you try to compile it |
| 09:16.34 | DotHack | LaVey|Work: do you have the kernel-headers package for your kernel? |
| 09:17.12 | LaVey|Work | ? am new to debian (and pretty new to linux, used slackware before) |
| 09:17.27 | shingouz | LaVey|Work: or the kernel source. i guess you need the full source if you are going to use the Dragorn patch on the orinoco sources |
| 09:17.50 | shingouz | LaVey|Work: lemme guess, you are going to run kismet on the laptop? |
| 09:17.56 | LaVey|Work | :) u got it |
| 09:18.21 | LaVey|Work | was impressed with the apt get for it tho :) |
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| 09:18.31 | LaVey|Work | very cool |
| 09:18.40 | shingouz | first of all i believe you have read the kismet docs on the orinoco stuff already |
| 09:18.52 | shingouz | your first kernel on debian? |
| 09:18.58 | LaVey|Work | yup |
| 09:19.04 | shingouz | !kp |
| 09:19.04 | dpkg | somebody said kp was To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 09:19.37 | streuner | KERNEL-HOWTO is at the URL mentioned above |
| 09:19.44 | shingouz | for more information, read the links there (and /msg dpkg foo) |
| 09:19.46 | LaVey|Work | will take a read .. ta |
| 09:20.04 | opteek | the documentation for the orinco says its only relevant upto 2.6.8\ |
| 09:20.30 | shingouz | LaVey|Work: for the kernel patching, mosey on over to kismetwireless.net and read the docs on orinoco |
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| 09:20.43 | shingouz | opteek: and even later kernels have to be patched |
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| 09:21.08 | LaVey|Work | did have a read there.. and chose the drivers i thought were right |
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| 09:21.17 | shingouz | LaVey|Work: the whole thing is better done on vanilla sources in this special case is what i have noticed btw |
| 09:21.25 | LaVey|Work | my grub loader says 2.6.8 |
| 09:21.37 | Yoninux | hello, is there an ftp clien with text editor (code) under debian ? |
| 09:21.52 | streuner | surely sarge then..., get the vanila source |
| 09:22.03 | yam | is it possible to increase the max number of links per directory beyond 31998? |
| 09:22.13 | shingouz | well... you cannot really make just the one driver and to tell you the truth 2.6.9 or 2.6.10 is a hell of a lot easier to patch than the 2.6.8 |
| 09:22.25 | shingouz | been there, done it, have the scars to prove it |
| 09:22.29 | LaVey|Work | lol |
| 09:22.42 | SlayerXP | Yoninux: congratulations. you've asked a question that I can't even think up a sarcastic answer to. |
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| 09:23.10 | Yoninux | Ah ah !!!! :) it's good to have new people getting to Linux see ???? :-D |
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| 09:23.35 | SlayerXP | Yoninux: why on earth would you want an FTP client that can edit text files? |
| 09:23.48 | opteek | heheh |
| 09:23.57 | opteron | Hallo. I need to write in Debian console on Russian. But I do not know, that it is necessary to make. |
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| 09:24.13 | streuner | opteron: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 09:24.31 | pothead | ui |
| 09:24.36 | streuner | opteron: try that, not sure if thats helps or not... |
| 09:24.55 | opteron | ok, thanks |
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| 09:26.03 | kaner | LaVey|Work: because he has only ftp access to his server and wants to remotly edit files? |
| 09:26.15 | kaner | ups |
| 09:26.16 | Yoninux | cause i have websites hosted somewhere else so i need to get to the files, changes some stuff then save it back there... (and please graphic interface... i'm not for the black/white prehistorical stuff 8-)) |
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| 09:26.25 | kaner | s/ LaVey|Work / SlayerXP |
| 09:26.25 | opteek | or someone elses server... |
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| 09:26.41 | kaner | Yoninux: gftp for example |
| 09:26.50 | cat | To enable these manpages set LC_MESSAGES to 'es' (or es_ZZ where ZZ is your |
| 09:26.50 | cat | contry code). Man will then search for Spanish manpages under |
| 09:26.52 | cat | /usr/share/man/es. |
| 09:26.55 | cat | how can i do that? |
| 09:27.03 | shingouz | Yoninux: get the file with ftp, edit it with vi and ftp the stuff back in place? :p |
| 09:27.08 | SlayerXP | Yoninux: so? use an ftp client to get the file, use an editor to edit the file, then use the ftp client to put the file back. |
| 09:27.11 | opteek | Yoninux : why dont you modify the file locally and send it, like everyone else in the world does |
| 09:27.13 | cat | to put my man in spanish? |
| 09:27.33 | Yoninux | kaner; ok... and the editor do show lines numbers ? |
| 09:27.44 | kaner | Yoninux: you can choose the editor |
| 09:27.51 | opteek | vim is nice |
| 09:27.59 | Yoninux | opteek; right, that's what i meant, cuteftp doeas all that on mshit |
| 09:28.12 | shingouz | cat: dpkg-reconfigure locales is a workable solution at least, changes the whole environment |
| 09:28.21 | Yoninux | vim is no mouse... hu, i like human friendly interface |
| 09:28.29 | opteek | gedit |
| 09:28.32 | Yoninux | ok |
| 09:28.33 | kaner | Yoninux: you can _choose_ |
| 09:28.44 | opteek | free will |
| 09:28.45 | opteek | bahahhahaha |
| 09:28.49 | shingouz | Yoninux: no mouse = Good Thing (tm) |
| 09:29.06 | Yoninux | shingouz... bouhhhhh :( |
| 09:29.15 | shingouz | i dislike rodents |
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| 09:29.38 | Yoninux | opteek; ok free will mean i know my choices... |
| 09:29.59 | Yoninux | kaner; i'm macintosh educated... no insult ! |
| 09:30.09 | opteek | Yoninux : goto freshmeat and search for graphical text editors |
| 09:30.18 | opteek | Yoninux : and you will get hundreds of them |
| 09:30.22 | shingouz | Yoninux: luckily even macs can run linux so there is no need for the rat ;) |
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| 09:30.46 | Yoninux | ;) |
| 09:30.54 | tzafrir | Yoninux, try evim |
| 09:30.59 | Yoninux | ok i will search. tks |
| 09:31.26 | tzafrir | it's "easy vim" |
| 09:31.36 | shingouz | seriously speaking almost any editor will do, you just pick the one you like best |
| 09:32.08 | pothead | u poil |
| 09:32.08 | opteek | openoffice is just like microsoft office |
| 09:32.15 | opteek | teehee |
| 09:32.28 | pothead | damn fucxking irssi changing windows when I don't even ask it to do so |
| 09:32.34 | shingouz | yup, just as bloated but the annoying clippy is missing |
| 09:32.39 | pothead | !lart irssi for being a dick |
| 09:33.29 | tzafrir | shingouz, what? hasn't vigor been integrated into OOo? |
| 09:34.02 | opteron | When starting DHCP server - Unknown HZ value! (84) Assume 100 . dhcp. What is this ? |
| 09:34.04 | DotHack | Yoninux: try Bluefish it can mount ftp sites!! |
| 09:34.05 | shingouz | there is some annoying thingie in OOo too? dang |
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| 09:34.11 | opteek | i have a 450 mhz p3 thinkpad here with 320 megs of ram and im running fluxbox. whenever I play a large video file via mplayer, I get slight skipping every couple of seconds |
| 09:34.29 | opteek | Im sure theres a way to fix that, if I compiled mplayer from source |
| 09:34.35 | opteek | ? |
| 09:34.38 | Yoninux | ah... yeah Bluefish i tried once ! |
| 09:34.49 | Yoninux | (look normal :D) |
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| 09:34.57 | petemc | opteek: check the mplayer docs, there are flags you can use for lower powered machines |
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| 09:35.05 | shingouz | opteek: tp600 with p2-300 and 128M ram, mplayer running divx and no chopping |
| 09:35.11 | wishie | which package is sdl-config in ? packages.debian.org seems to be down... |
| 09:35.14 | DotHack | Yoninux: I use Bluefish for all my webcoding |
| 09:35.24 | shingouz | opteek: you sure you run the correct Xserver? |
| 09:35.26 | Overand | shingouz: i have less luck on my TP6-something, p2-400 |
| 09:35.37 | Overand | shingouz: mplayer though? |
| 09:35.38 | opteek | shingouz : yes |
| 09:35.47 | shingouz | Overand: mplayer |
| 09:35.57 | Overand | opteek: what are your hdparm settigs like? |
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| 09:36.08 | Overand | if you aren't using DMA, that might be it |
| 09:36.23 | opteek | i get 88 fps in glxgears, but thats while compiling.. |
| 09:36.26 | Overand | if your IDE controller setup is less-than-ideal, that could call it |
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| 09:36.36 | Overand | s/call/cause |
| 09:36.42 | opteek | Overand: I wouldnt know, where could I find that out |
| 09:36.42 | wishie | 88fps in glxgears ? |
| 09:36.52 | Overand | opteek: 'hdparm' |
| 09:36.56 | Overand | be careful |
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| 09:37.00 | Overand | hdparm can really screw things up. |
| 09:37.03 | Overand | and i mean REALLY |
| 09:37.04 | shingouz | opteek: is the video file a pure DVD or some divx? playing dvd's seem to take a lot of cpu |
| 09:37.21 | opteek | shingouz : avi file |
| 09:37.29 | wishie | what video card is this we're talking about ? 88fps in glxgears sounds...strange. |
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| 09:37.31 | Overand | opteek: is the soundtrack mp3 or ac3? |
| 09:37.37 | Overand | ac3 can use a lot of cpu, iirc |
| 09:37.47 | shingouz | wishie: neomagic IIRC. laptop |
| 09:37.53 | AnguS | hi there, i keep gettin this in my daily cron email... and i can't figure where the problem is... |
| 09:37.55 | AnguS | /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: |
| 09:37.55 | AnguS | klogctl: Invalid argument |
| 09:37.56 | opteek | yes |
| 09:37.57 | pharm | opteek: Are you using -vo xv ? 450MHz x86 isn't fast enough to do full MPEG2 DVD decoding without *some* hardware support IME. |
| 09:37.58 | opteek | neomagic |
| 09:38.02 | AnguS | perhaps you can give me a hint? |
| 09:38.40 | pharm | opteek: you probably need the magic incantation in /etc/X11/XF86Config to tell the neomagic chipset to set some memory aside for xv video acceleratiomn |
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| 09:38.48 | shingouz | opteek: you may want to enable some framedropping for mplayer just in case. normally it is not too disturbing |
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| 09:38.59 | pharm | opteek: man neomagic and read the bit about "overlaymem" |
| 09:39.02 | peterS | pharm: "neomagic". "acceleration". that's kind of funny |
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| 09:39.13 | wishie | hmm |
| 09:39.18 | Overand | pharm: thanks for that link, i may need to do that myself |
| 09:39.28 | wishie | so, what package can i find sdl-config in ? id use packages.debian.org, but it seems to be down... |
| 09:39.29 | pharm | peterS: they'll just about manage xv :) |
| 09:39.30 | opteek | oh, that all sounds very good, especially the vo xv thing, brilliant |
| 09:39.32 | opteek | helps |
| 09:39.44 | peterS | pharm: I believe you, but that also kind of surprises me (: |
| 09:39.49 | shingouz | wishie: apt-cache search foo |
| 09:39.56 | wishie | shingouz: tried that. |
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| 09:40.12 | giorgian | hi, is there a way to do an upgrade from security.debian.org only, apart removing all other sources from sources.list? |
| 09:40.17 | greenhorn | is this the place for basic debian/linux questions? |
| 09:40.25 | shingouz | opteek: you need the correct driver for xfree 4.x |
| 09:40.31 | Overand | greenhorn: you can try here |
| 09:40.38 | opteek | isnt the negomagic one correct? |
| 09:40.41 | greenhorn | have a quick (and very basic) question |
| 09:40.44 | shingouz | opteek: yes |
| 09:40.48 | greenhorn | want to set up a shared area |
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| 09:40.57 | Overand | greenhorn: be more specific what you mean by 'shared area' |
| 09:40.58 | aixistehsuck | !tell greenhorn -about smart questions |
| 09:41.00 | sceig | Hi. I'm having problems with python libpcap module (pypcap, pycap) on a sarge distrib. The error is : "TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'NoneType' and 'str'" and it comes after the command "python setup.py build". Somebody has an idea ? |
| 09:41.00 | pharm | opteek: so long as you're using the neomagic driver you should be ok. |
| 09:41.04 | greenhorn | so I created a /home/shared/ |
| 09:41.07 | greenhorn | directory |
| 09:41.10 | wishie | greenhorn: you want to share files with other computers ? |
| 09:41.14 | aixistehsuck | !tell greenhorn -about enter |
| 09:41.16 | greenhorn | with other users |
| 09:41.25 | wishie | other users ? oh, easier. |
| 09:41.28 | opteek | pharm: can i just throw this overlaymem option anywhere in xf86config |
| 09:41.28 | pharm | greenhorn: on the same machine |
| 09:41.29 | shingouz | giorgian: keep all the normal sources in the file along with the security site, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade should take care of the upgrades for you |
| 09:41.32 | pharm | greenhorn: ?? |
| 09:41.34 | greenhorn | on the same machine |
| 09:41.46 | greenhorn | I set the following |
| 09:41.49 | pharm | What about other users? |
| 09:42.05 | pharm | greenhorn: that is, do you just want to restrict this shared area to some specific users? |
| 09:42.15 | shingouz | opteek: man neomagic :) |
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| 09:42.39 | greenhorn | I want other users to be able to create files in the /home/shared directory and other users in a specific group be able to read/edit/delete them |
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| 09:42.52 | pharm | opteek: It needs to go in the "Device" section IIRC. |
| 09:43.00 | pharm | opteek: see the man page for neomagic |
| 09:43.06 | wishie | so how can i find out what package sdl-config is in.... |
| 09:43.21 | petemc | wishie: /msg dpkg search |
| 09:43.32 | pharm | greenhorn: make the users all members of the group, and make /home/shared setgid that group. |
| 09:43.47 | greenhorn | I have figured out how to do the chmod stuff so that I get the following on ls -la |
| 09:43.50 | wishie | petemc: that doesnt use p.d.o ? cause i think its down. |
| 09:43.52 | greenhorn | drwxrwsr-- 2 root cvs 4096 Apr 4 05:29 . |
| 09:43.55 | pharm | greengorn: ie permissions: rwxrws--- user group |
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| 09:44.01 | petemc | wishie: why not just read the factoid |
| 09:44.07 | greenhorn | right |
| 09:44.08 | shingouz | pharm, opteek: i seem to have only one entry in the Device section in my xf86config-4: "driver neomagic" and that is it |
| 09:44.20 | greenhorn | but then someone creates a file in the directory |
| 09:44.28 | yahalom | anyone here familiar with DST? my linux is 1 hr behind and it keeps updating as such. i am in the right time zone. |
| 09:44.29 | pharm | shingouz: so add another line. |
| 09:44.39 | greenhorn | and it has |
| 09:44.43 | greenhorn | -rw-r--r-- 1 cblesius cvs 0 Apr 4 05:29 test123 |
| 09:44.46 | shingouz | pharm: but my laptop runs the divx just fine :) |
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| 09:45.40 | greenhorn | I thought setting the sticky bit on group |
| 09:45.48 | pharm | shingouz: depends how much VRAM there is. Older neomagic chipsets in laptops only had 4Mb. X would eat it all for pixmap cache & there'd be none left for the xv overlay, hence the option to set some aside... |
| 09:46.18 | pharm | if you've got loads of VRAM, then there's probably enough around for the overlay regardless. |
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| 09:46.21 | greenhorn | would cause all files created by the users in the directory with the bit set to get those permissions |
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| 09:46.30 | greenhorn | but that is not what is happening |
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| 09:46.47 | greenhorn | is there something I am missing pharm? |
| 09:47.05 | pharm | greenhorn: try creating a directory and look at the permissions on that... |
| 09:47.09 | shingouz | pharm: 4M vram and xfce3. p2-300 128M ram but this one runs divx very nicely. i just told you about the xf86config because it seemed to me that you had some problems too with the divx |
| 09:47.25 | pharm | no, I'm fine :) |
| 09:47.29 | shingouz | :) |
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| 09:48.23 | opteek | is the X11/xv video driver the correct one when using -vo in mplayer if I have the neomagic? |
| 09:48.36 | shingouz | opteek: -vo xv |
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| 09:48.45 | opteek | yeah |
| 09:48.52 | opteek | I like that |
| 09:48.56 | shingouz | yup. that with the neomagic |
| 09:48.58 | greenhorn | drwxr-sr-x rather than the expected drwxrwsr-- |
| 09:49.10 | opteek | how would I set a quick alias in .bashrc |
| 09:49.19 | opteek | oh yeah |
| 09:49.21 | opteek | look at that |
| 09:49.22 | aixistehsuck | man bashrc ? |
| 09:49.32 | greenhorn | does this have something to do with umask? |
| 09:49.34 | aixistehsuck | how can I get clues quickly with no effort? |
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| 09:49.48 | pharm | opteek: You want -vo xv |
| 09:49.50 | shingouz | ummm.. use the cluebat? |
| 09:49.59 | pharm | opteek: really. |
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| 09:50.20 | dondelelcaro | aixistehsuck: there's no way to do that. You can however do it with minimal effort by reading man man; man less; and man apropos; and becoming familiar with how to operate google. |
| 09:50.39 | aixistehsuck | dondelelcaro: I was making fun |
| 09:50.46 | shingouz | opteek: the mplayer configs go into the mplayer.conf file, not bashrc |
| 09:50.50 | Humbe | Where can I find info on using usb mouse/keyboard in addition to existing ones?.. Trying to get my docking statin to work.. |
| 09:51.07 | pharm | or .mplayer/config if you prefer... |
| 09:51.10 | aixistehsuck | dondelelcaro: see the "how can I make a quick alias in bashrc" just above my sarcasm |
| 09:51.31 | greenhorn | why is this so hard? I should be able to create a directory that members of a group can use to create, share and edit files |
| 09:51.42 | greenhorn | using man chmod |
| 09:51.46 | greenhorn | but I am not getting it |
| 09:52.09 | Humbe | greenhorn: What specificly doesnt work like you expect it to? |
| 09:52.15 | dondelelcaro | greenhorn: make the directory, make the directory g+rwxs; then make sure that users make the files g+rw |
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| 09:52.27 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: can you remove CMD: annoy (.*?), it's breaking other factoids, probably like citral intended. |
| 09:52.33 | pharm | greenhorn: having created your /home/shared with setgid permissions, create a new /home/shared/new directory and look at the permissions on that. |
| 09:53.06 | paulswm | pharm: self whacking usually just makes one dizzy |
| 09:53.18 | greenhorn | what I want is to spare the users from having to set g+rw |
| 09:53.23 | greenhorn | and that is not working |
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| 09:53.29 | greenhorn | drwxr-sr-x |
| 09:53.36 | dondelelcaro | greenhorn: then have the users set their umask correctly. |
| 09:53.57 | greenhorn | but then they automatically share all their files right? |
| 09:53.59 | dondelelcaro | should be 0007 or 0004 depending |
| 09:54.03 | dondelelcaro | greenhorn: yes. |
| 09:54.04 | Humbe | correctly? :).. umask giving g+rw is a bit dirty since this goes for all files.. |
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| 09:54.31 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* welcome to the limitations of the unix permision system. |
| 09:54.41 | dondelelcaro | if you want something more complex, use ACLs |
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| 09:55.00 | greenhorn | are ACLs implemented in debian or do I have to add that? |
| 09:55.03 | paulswm | greenhorn: ultimately, users have control over who sees their files, and even if you set a default umask, there's nothing to prevent them changing it |
| 09:55.34 | opteek | unless you remove their chmod commands |
| 09:55.36 | Humbe | Get informed users.. Or make a script that set permissions in directory daily or something.. |
| 09:55.38 | kombi | will sarge recognize and run on two 64BIT AMD Opterons? |
| 09:56.02 | greenhorn | paulswm: I just want a single directory that they can share things in without haveing to ask me things |
| 09:56.25 | opteek | kombi: you will have to do some extra thing to make use of the 64 procs best |
| 09:56.29 | bob2 | kombi: /j #debian-amd64 |
| 09:56.35 | greenhorn | that require an answer with "chmod" in it |
| 09:56.46 | bob2 | opteek: the only "extra" thing is "install the amd64 port of Debian" |
| 09:56.47 | dondelelcaro | greenhorn: use the grsecurity, and/or ACL kernel patches. |
| 09:57.04 | sceig | in order to compile, which deb package do i have to hav installed ? gcc, make, something more ? |
| 09:57.17 | bob2 | sceig: build-essential |
| 09:57.22 | dondelelcaro | sceig: build-essential and the builddeps for that package. You probably also want fakeroot |
| 09:57.24 | aixistehsuck | sceig: build-essential |
| 09:57.48 | sceig | tks |
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| 09:59.01 | kombi | thanks! |
| 09:59.04 | sceig | after having installed build-essential the error is still the same :"TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'NoneType' and 'str' |
| 09:59.07 | sceig | " |
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| 09:59.57 | sceig | i'm trying to make work pyppcap or pycap (python moudle for libpcap) |
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| 10:02.29 | ciro3 | ragazzi c'è qualcuno? |
| 10:02.46 | streuner_ | !it |
| 10:02.46 | dpkg | it has been said that italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it, (anche /j #linux-it). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 10:03.02 | ciro3 | thenks |
| 10:03.41 | ciro3 | asd, user is off-line |
| 10:04.08 | ciro3 | i need faq for dns resolve, i new debian user |
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| 10:06.11 | infie | Anyone know of a debian payroll package? |
| 10:06.30 | luda | I cannot get my mouse to work, can anyone help me or tell me where I can get information that can help me? |
| 10:06.42 | infie | luda: What kind of mouse? |
| 10:06.52 | luda | infie: A PS/2 mouse |
| 10:07.44 | infie | have you had a look at your X configuration file? |
| 10:07.54 | infie | XF86Config or x.org equivelant |
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| 10:08.25 | luda | infie: nope, where can I find it? Im very new to this OS |
| 10:09.03 | chealer | infie: debian doesn't have x.org |
| 10:09.11 | kaner | luda: /etc/X11/XFree86Config-4 |
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| 10:09.18 | kaner | luda: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 10:09.40 | luda | kaner: ok, yes I have looked into that file but I dont know what to edit |
| 10:09.50 | chealer | !drxx luda |
| 10:09.50 | dpkg | luda: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
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| 10:10.30 | infie | chealer: there are x.org packages if you look for em |
| 10:10.30 | luda | dpkg: thanks, I will try that |
| 10:10.30 | dpkg | de rien, luda |
| 10:10.58 | chealer | infie: where? |
| 10:11.00 | kaner | luda: i recommend some reading about xfree configuration. its not much. just read the sections about mouse configuration |
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| 10:13.26 | luda | kaner: ok, witch manpage is that? |
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| 10:14.03 | infie | chealer: I thought Ubuntu has x.org in the new release |
| 10:14.24 | Gumby | any LVM users here? I am trying to activate my LVM but when I try to do so (vgchange -a y) I get the following..... |
| 10:14.28 | chealer | infie: that may be right... |
| 10:14.35 | Gumby | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:14.35 | Gumby | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:15.28 | kaner | luda: man XF86Config-4 |
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| 10:16.09 | luda | kaner: thanks |
| 10:16.13 | chealer | luda: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ConfiguringX |
| 10:16.49 | luda | chealer: thanks, but its hard to read web-pages whitout a mouse =/ |
| 10:17.00 | hackeron | hmm, you know reiser4 is atomic? -- how is that different to journalised? -- the short description points to the same concept. |
| 10:17.28 | idnar | hackeron: journalling is the method that reiser4 uses to achieve atomicity, I would imagine |
| 10:17.31 | chealer | luda: console browsers are quite easy to use. apt-get install lynx if you want to try |
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| 10:18.06 | hackeron | idnar: ah, just fancy lingo then :) |
| 10:18.14 | mwilson | infie: When Ubuntu has a new release, it will have x.org in it. |
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| 10:19.27 | infie | I'm using ubuntu with x atm |
| 10:19.30 | infie | 5.04 RC |
| 10:19.47 | infie | the release is in a few days |
| 10:19.47 | debboy | ok guys, this year i've been installing linux on newbie computers left right and centre, but this time i have to let someone do it themselves... in a diff country. so i can't babysit them through a proper debian instal |
| 10:20.01 | debboy | whats the best newbie debian-based distribution these days? |
| 10:20.12 | infie | Ubuntu? |
| 10:20.13 | infie | :) |
| 10:20.38 | aixistehsuck | !best |
| 10:20.38 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 10:20.44 | luda | chealer: ok, I will try.. what was the adress again? |
| 10:20.50 | chealer | luda: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ConfiguringX |
| 10:21.10 | debboy | best: easy to install, easy to surf web, write word docs, surf porn, watch dvds/movies, the usual. |
| 10:21.11 | chealer | luda: otherwise just try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 10:22.06 | paulswm | debboy: The best *debian* choice would be sarge, as for debian-based, try google and asking in their channels, probably ubuntu although I wouldn't presonally recommend it as it's a mix of debian distros |
| 10:22.22 | aixistehsuck | !find amavisd-new sid |
| 10:22.24 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'amavisd-new' (2): amavisd-new ;; amavisd-new-milter. |
| 10:22.30 | debboy | ubuntu i've heard a lot. this guy is on a dialup line so i can't just ssh in when its stuffed. |
| 10:22.31 | luda | chealer: but I dont now how to configure the mouse anyway |
| 10:22.40 | aixistehsuck | !find amavisd-new |
| 10:22.42 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'amavisd-new' (2): amavisd-new ;; amavisd-new-milter. |
| 10:22.43 | debboy | i mean heard the name a lot |
| 10:22.53 | debboy | yeah i'm a debian-arge myself |
| 10:22.57 | aixistehsuck | Adamnit how do I get the version? |
| 10:22.59 | chealer | luda: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
| 10:23.00 | simonrvn | aixistehsuck: the default is sid/unstable |
| 10:23.09 | debboy | is there a competitor to ubuntu? or is it a no-brainer decision? |
| 10:23.19 | simonrvn | !info amavisd-new |
| 10:23.21 | dpkg | amavisd-new: (Interface between MTA and virus scanner/content filters), section mail, is extra. Version: 20030616p10-5 (sid), Packaged size: 309 kB, Installed size: 840 kB |
| 10:23.27 | simonrvn | !info amavisd-new sarge |
| 10:23.29 | dpkg | amavisd-new: (Interface between MTA and virus scanner/content filters), section mail, is extra. Version: 20030616p10-5 (sarge), Packaged size: 309 kB, Installed size: 840 kB |
| 10:23.32 | simonrvn | etc. |
| 10:23.40 | chealer | debboy: there are tons |
| 10:23.56 | debboy | i mean MAJOR competitor. thats actually complete and good. |
| 10:24.11 | debboy | not joe bloggs debian distribution.com |
| 10:24.21 | luda | chealer: yes, but It's almoste the same configuring routine as when I installed the OS and I dont now how to configure the mouse. If I should use /dev/tty00 as mouse etc |
| 10:24.54 | aixistehsuck | simonrvn: ty, I forgot about !info |
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| 10:25.42 | guorke | which good distribution with good device support plug n play ? |
| 10:25.43 | chealer | luda: yes, it's the same procedure (or more detailed) |
| 10:26.00 | chealer | luda: what did you choose? |
| 10:26.41 | jm_ | aixistehsuck: don't forget about /msg too! |
| 10:26.52 | jm_ | and why is AIX teh suck? |
| 10:27.09 | luda | chealer: I dont need even more detailed. I like it simple =) I choosed /dev/ttyS0 |
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| 10:27.35 | aixistehsuck | either aix or I am, cause I can't get to f***ing compile stuff I need, mostly cause I need AIX b-e equivalent which I don't have so I need workarounds :) |
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| 10:28.12 | aixistehsuck | jm_: add to this, that the AIX I m on is short on disk space and I can't sweep what I d like to.. and you get the picture :) |
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| 10:29.10 | jm_ | aixistehsuck: can't you resize filesystems? there are repositories with public software for AIX |
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| 10:30.04 | aixistehsuck | jm_: I know of the public software, but xlc is not public, and no, I can't resize otherwise Id have done iut already ;) |
| 10:30.08 | cheal | luda: sorry, I lost connection (just in case you still didn't solve your problem) |
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| 10:30.35 | peanut | How can I view the compile flags for a package? |
| 10:30.43 | jm_ | aixistehsuck: you can easily get xlc, but you also need the licence (although I think it works without it, you just get a stupid delay each time you invoke it) |
| 10:30.58 | aixistehsuck | jm_: I got the trial, but still bugs me about the cpp compiler |
| 10:31.25 | aixistehsuck | I think I am the suck , but I feel better saying AIX is |
| 10:31.26 | aixistehsuck | heh |
| 10:31.29 | bob2 | peanut: download the source package (apt-get source blah) |
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| 10:31.34 | bob2 | there's no other general way |
| 10:31.46 | paines | peanut, iirc you have to install the src package of the specific package and look in debian/rules for the flags |
| 10:31.57 | luda | cheal: I didnät .. I choosed /dev/ttys0 when installing, is that right? |
| 10:31.59 | peanut | is there a listing somewhere on the debian website? |
| 10:32.04 | aixistehsuck | AIX is actually the hardest of all OS I gotta deal with, to centralize authentication using LDAP |
| 10:32.04 | bob2 | peanut: nope |
| 10:32.06 | cheal | luda: try /dev/input/mice |
| 10:32.14 | bob2 | peanut: debian/rules is a makefile |
| 10:32.14 | peanut | dang. |
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| 10:33.04 | luda | cheal: ok, do I have to restart the x-server after editing XF86Config-4 ? |
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| 10:33.22 | Nermal | ellooo |
| 10:33.31 | aixistehsuck | luda: yes |
| 10:33.48 | cheal | luda: yes, but don't edit it by hand (without dpkg-reconfigure) unless you fail to make it work with dpkg-reconfigure |
| 10:34.07 | Nermal | is there a way to either umount /tmp while it says "device or resource busy" to get it to use disk rather than tmpfs or remount it while increasing the size of the tmpfs mount ? |
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| 10:34.18 | hackeron | why is ext3 the default on debian? |
| 10:34.29 | tzafrir | Nermal, lsof /tmp ? |
| 10:34.36 | sdogi | hey guys, tell me one command line program with i can listen shoutcast radios |
| 10:34.37 | aixistehsuck | abauer: because you need one to be the default |
| 10:34.42 | sdogi | mpg321 doesn't seem to work for that |
| 10:34.43 | Nermal | tzafrir, it'sa vserver so it's warning me the output may be incomplete :| |
| 10:34.44 | aixistehsuck | hackeron: ^^^^ |
| 10:34.54 | aixistehsuck | damn lag |
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| 10:35.01 | kaner | sdogi: i dont know, butmaybe mplayer? |
| 10:35.19 | sdogi | it takes so long to compile on that pI :( |
| 10:35.23 | sdogi | but i guess i'll have to do it |
| 10:35.34 | cheal | !tell sdogi about marillat |
| 10:35.36 | sdogi | i thought that maybe there is something lightweight |
| 10:35.38 | kaner | just grab the debian packages frm marillat |
| 10:35.38 | luda | cheal: ok, Iö'll try, thanks for the help |
| 10:35.48 | cheal | sdogi: there's an unofficial repository that has mplayer |
| 10:35.54 | Overand | god, i just came to the realization that the current internet is somewhat vaguely like the old cyberpunk novels |
| 10:35.59 | sdogi | cheal: you mean binaries? |
| 10:36.01 | sdogi | cool |
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| 10:36.06 | cheal | sdogi: yes |
| 10:36.10 | kaner | sdogi: yes |
| 10:36.13 | hackeron | aixistehsuck: heh, thanks :) |
| 10:36.14 | urban | hi |
| 10:36.19 | Overand | unprotected nieve users (windows, unpatched IE) get their machines busted up by walking into the 'seedy parts of the net' |
| 10:36.26 | urban | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.32 | urban | i have that error any help |
| 10:36.45 | aixistehsuck | urban: isn't it a clear message? |
| 10:36.59 | paulswm | hackeron: Beucase it's generally the safest in terms of surviving bad stuff like power failures, but I'm not sure you'd want to run it on a laptop due to the journalling not allowing the HD to idle, altrhough there may be a fix |
| 10:37.02 | urban | well i know what it is but i cant or dont know how to fix it |
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| 10:37.48 | urban | any help |
| 10:38.00 | urban | when i do apt-get install phpmyadmin |
| 10:38.04 | sdogi | thnaks |
| 10:38.07 | urban | it says i have latest version |
| 10:38.39 | aixistehsuck | consider upgrading *mysql* *client* |
| 10:38.47 | simonrvn | yeh, so? update, try again |
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| 10:39.18 | urban | ??? |
| 10:39.24 | urban | it will just keep saying that |
| 10:39.29 | simonrvn | Overand: pretty much.. |
| 10:39.55 | simonrvn | urban: so what's the problem...? |
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| 10:40.10 | urban | i cant log into the mysql db with phpmyadmin |
| 10:40.29 | urban | when i do apt-get update |
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| 10:40.30 | urban | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:40.32 | simonrvn | read your logs... |
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| 10:40.46 | urban | i need help not to find myself |
| 10:40.59 | Samus_Aran | could someone on unstable branch tell me which versions of these packages are currently available: k3b, kdelibs, GTK+, The GIMP, Gnome, Linux kernel, X server |
| 10:40.59 | aixkilledme | !confuse urban |
| 10:41.00 | dpkg | Yes, what are my mushroom today, urban? shirts of the people's republic of belarus with extra crabpaste |
| 10:41.04 | simonrvn | what? |
| 10:41.19 | urban | lol |
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| 10:41.27 | aixkilledme | Samus_Aran: you can use packages.debian.org or /msg dpkg info <pacakge> |
| 10:41.28 | simonrvn | @tel Samus_Aran -about pdo |
| 10:41.32 | simonrvn | @tel Samus_Aran -about search |
| 10:41.34 | trogger | does anyone have experience with a DLink DWL-122 usb wireless? |
| 10:41.40 | simonrvn | meh |
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| 10:41.45 | simonrvn | @tell Samus_Aran -about search |
| 10:41.51 | simonrvn | @tell Samus_Aran -about pdo |
| 10:41.56 | paulswm | Samus_Aran: check yourself at the web site, at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 10:42.04 | Samus_Aran | simonrvn: I don't have a Debian system at this time |
| 10:42.17 | simonrvn | so? |
| 10:42.30 | Samus_Aran | simonrvn: you pasted me help on how to use apt-get .. |
| 10:42.39 | aixkilledme | Samus_Aran: pdo doesn't require that you run debian to query it |
| 10:42.40 | aixkilledme | sanor does tdpkg (the bot hin here) |
| 10:42.42 | simonrvn | read the whole thing FFS |
| 10:42.52 | aixkilledme | holy fucking shitty lag |
| 10:43.09 | Samus_Aran | simonrvn: yes, swear at me for saying that I don't have Debian currently available, that is quite cool |
| 10:43.22 | Samus_Aran | paulswm: thank you for the URL |
| 10:43.32 | pharm | Samus_Aran: he's saying that the information you want is on the website. |
| 10:43.39 | paulswm | Samus_Aran: np |
| 10:43.41 | simonrvn | Samus_Aran: here's some more swearing: STFU |
| 10:44.09 | paulswm | pharm: still holding the cluebat? |
| 10:44.11 | paulswm | :P |
| 10:44.20 | Samus_Aran | simonrvn: no thank you |
| 10:44.35 | pharm | s/give/gives/ sigh. |
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| 10:44.46 | simonrvn | bitching and whining about info that you didn't completely read is just going to piss people off |
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| 10:44.51 | paulswm | pharm: No, I don't need it now, but thanks, heh |
| 10:44.55 | Samus_Aran | simonrvn: I did completely read it |
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| 10:45.40 | Samus_Aran | although a search is presently failing when I submit a query |
| 10:45.49 | Samus_Aran | is a search on http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages working for any of you ? |
| 10:46.20 | cheal | Samus_Aran: no, the server is dead |
| 10:46.44 | trogger | quit |
| 10:46.45 | sep | Samus_Aran: type /msg dpkg find k3b-i18n (forinstance) |
| 10:47.04 | cheal | well maybe not dead but the topic says it's fscking since quite a while :? |
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| 10:47.29 | PitchForkLinux | Morning all. I'm looking for any info that can give me a list or how to install a very minimal grahical install of debian sarge. I installed Debian but I got the full blown desktop and there is so much crap in it I can't find anything. anyone know where I might find a listing of packages like this that I can install manually after I get the base up and running? |
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| 10:47.31 | simonrvn | probably has gigs and gigs of disk to fsck... |
| 10:47.59 | pharm | Samus_Aran: Nope, it looks like packages.debian.org has gone away :( |
| 10:48.04 | simonrvn | step 1) don't use tasksel to install x |
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| 10:48.24 | paulswm | Samus_Aran: But at least you know where to search when it's back up :) |
| 10:48.35 | pharm | PitchForkLinux: Just install the base sarge without any of the 'tasks' or anything else for that matter. |
| 10:48.40 | simonrvn | step 2) there's only one step |
| 10:48.51 | cheal | simonrvn: hehe...how long does fsck take on your PCs? |
| 10:48.58 | Samus_Aran | which package should I look at for the version of KDE ? kdelibs is comprised of many parts with many version numbers |
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| 10:49.27 | simonrvn | ~5 seconds. they run xfs/jfs, and /boot or / is ext2 |
| 10:49.28 | apt | simonrvn: what are you talking about? |
| 10:49.38 | CyberShadow | Help! I've just done a dist-upgrade and sound doesn't work! |
| 10:49.39 | polok_ | is httpd a udp or tcp thing? |
| 10:49.42 | simonrvn | apt: nothing you'd know about |
| 10:49.46 | simonrvn | tcp |
| 10:49.52 | CyberShadow | Mostly "no such device: /dev/dsp" |
| 10:50.03 | polok_ | thanks |
| 10:50.04 | bob2 | CyberShadow: load your sound module |
| 10:50.13 | CyberShadow | bob2: how? |
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| 10:50.18 | bob2 | CyberShadow: or did you switch to alsa and forget to load snd_pcm_oss? |
| 10:50.19 | sep | Samus_Aran: kdelibs-bin or -data is a good candidate imho |
| 10:50.22 | pharm | PitchForkLinux: oh wait, you want to do that and then get graphics. Um. x-window-systemm-core, xterm and a window manager? |
| 10:50.23 | PitchForkLinux | simonrvn. that's fine and I can do that, but then I'm looking for a base of packages to get a minimal desktop environment up and running. That is the list I'm looking for |
| 10:50.33 | CyberShadow | bob2: I just did a dist-upgrade |
| 10:50.36 | CyberShadow | that is all |
| 10:50.46 | bob2 | CyberShadow: meh, you did something else |
| 10:50.50 | bob2 | CyberShadow: or had some weird config |
| 10:50.51 | Samus_Aran | same question for which package do I look at for Gnome and the Linux kernel |
| 10:50.52 | cheal | Samus_Aran: a release can have several minor versions of KDE |
| 10:51.01 | cheal | Samus_Aran: which release are you asking about? |
| 10:51.08 | CyberShadow | well before the upgrade the system was ~old |
| 10:51.12 | Samus_Aran | sep: how do I interpret Version: 4:3.3.2-4.0.2 ? |
| 10:51.25 | cheal | Samus_Aran: kernel-image-2.6-fooarch |
| 10:51.40 | cheal | Samus_Aran: hehe. it's version 3.3.2 basically |
| 10:51.55 | bob2 | it means it's upstream version 3.3.2 |
| 10:51.57 | azreal | PitchForkLinux: just install the base, and then use aptitude or dselect to install the packages that you want, and it will grab whatever dependencies it needs along the way. |
| 10:52.01 | bob2 | someone fucked up the version 4 times |
| 10:52.10 | bob2 | and it failed to build on some random arch twice |
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| 10:52.53 | mathieu_ | bob2, in which case would the zero be incremented then? |
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| 10:53.06 | altt | hody |
| 10:53.10 | Samus_Aran | cheal: what do I put in for the architecture ? Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'kernel-image-2.6-i686' returned no results. |
| 10:53.15 | altt | howdy* |
| 10:53.27 | cheal | Samus_Aran: just remove the "i" |
| 10:53.44 | bob2 | mathieu_: 4.0.2 - 4th debian revision, 0th by someone other than the maintainer, 2nd binnmu = it failed to build on an architecture, so someone held it's hand through the build, but didn't change the source |
| 10:54.21 | PitchForkLinux | Yes Yes... I plan on installing that way. I'm just looking to see if there someone has created a minimal desktop package selection list that I might foll. |
| 10:54.38 | bob2 | PitchForkLinux: no |
| 10:54.51 | azreal | PitchForkLinux: for instance, installing x-window-system-core, mozilla-browser and xterm, will no doubt fetch quite a few dependencies as well. |
| 10:54.51 | cheal | Samus_Aran: you may want to check debian policy for more info on versions : http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version |
| 10:55.01 | mathieu_ | bob2, thanks |
| 10:55.08 | altt | basicly both my network card and my cdrom drive are undetected |
| 10:55.25 | altt | im useing a sony s170 |
| 10:55.37 | azreal | PitchForkLinux: try google, look on debianplanet.org also. |
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| 10:55.54 | Pred1 | !find libgtk-1.2.so |
| 10:56.00 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libgtk-1.2.so' (2): (/usr/lib/{libgtk-1.2.so.0|libgtk-1.2.so.0.9.1}) in libs/libgtk1.2 ;; (/usr/lib/debug/{libgtk-1.2.so.0|libgtk-1.2.so.0.9.1}) in libdevel/libgtk1.2-dbg. |
| 10:56.07 | bob2 | altt: try asking on the debian-boot@lists.debian.org list |
| 10:56.38 | altt | the article on linux on laptops says that the e100 net driver works, but refuses to install when i try |
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| 10:56.51 | altt | um ok |
| 10:57.25 | petemc | altt: using the sarge installer? |
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| 10:58.53 | Samus_Aran | cheal: it does not list the version of the kernel. how do I get dpkg to show the version ? |
| 10:58.59 | Pred1 | !find libSM.so.6 |
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| 10:59.05 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libSM.so.6' (2): (/usr/X11R6/lib/{libSM.so.6|libSM.so.6.0}) in libs/libsm6 ;; (/usr/X11R6/lib/debug/{libSM.so.6|libSM.so.6.0}) in libdevel/libsm6-dbg. |
| 10:59.12 | altt | sarge? no idea |
| 10:59.28 | cheal | Samus_Aran: you must look at the package's dependency |
| 10:59.33 | petemc | altt: where did you get your the iso you're using to install? |
| 10:59.44 | petemc | gah |
| 10:59.46 | altt | its a 30 r4 cd i dled from linuxiso |
| 10:59.51 | petemc | s/your// |
| 10:59.58 | cheal | !tell Pred1 about msg the bot |
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| 11:00.25 | Samus_Aran | cheal: huh ? I just want to know what kernel version comes with unstable |
| 11:00.31 | petemc | altt: some e100 cards have pci idc that didnt appear until after 2.4.21 or so, woody uses a 2.2 or 2.4.18 kernel, you need a mroe recent kernel |
| 11:00.32 | altt | well actually i had to kind of hacthe directory, the liniso links are broke |
| 11:00.45 | cheal | altt: strange, I only see 3.0r2 on linuxiso.org |
| 11:00.47 | CyberShadow | haw can I enable the mouse in the terminals? |
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| 11:00.50 | CyberShadow | *how |
| 11:00.55 | petemc | !tell altt about d-i |
| 11:01.19 | pharm | Samus_Aran: $ uname -a : Linux trigger 2.6.10-1-k7 #1 Fri Mar 11 03:13:32 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 11:01.22 | luda | cheal: WOW, my mouse works, thanks for your help! |
| 11:01.35 | cheal | CyberShadow: try gpm |
| 11:01.42 | cheal | luda: it's a pleasure :) |
| 11:01.44 | CyberShadow | cheal: thanks |
| 11:02.03 | pharm | Samus_Aran: 2.6.11 sources have just gone into unstable, so expect 2.6.11 kernels soon... |
| 11:02.08 | altt | petemc : thanks |
| 11:02.11 | petemc | np |
| 11:02.21 | Samus_Aran | pharm: but how come I can't query this information easily somehow ? |
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| 11:02.35 | cheal | altt: BTW are you planning to use debian as a desktop? |
| 11:02.39 | pharm | Samus_Aran: with or without a current Debian unstable system? |
| 11:02.54 | Samus_Aran | pharm: without. trying with dpkg |
| 11:02.59 | Samus_Aran | the bot, not the command, heh |
| 11:03.13 | cheal | Samus_Aran: you can when packages.debian.org is online |
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| 11:04.25 | Samus_Aran | which it isn't ... I was just trying to quickly find out a few package versions, but not one person in here is willing to spend 8 or 9 seconds to run a command on their system to check (but they will spend a very long time telling me that I am wrong about everything under the sun =) |
| 11:04.31 | pharm | Samus_Aran: yeah, what cheal said. If you're currently running stable (say), then you could add unstable sources to /etc/apt/sources.list, pin your current release to stable with /etc/apt/preferences and then use aptitude or apt-cache to show the packages... |
| 11:04.44 | viyyer | hi people.. |
| 11:04.53 | smltiger | hi |
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| 11:05.05 | smltiger | viyyer, do you want talk to me ? |
| 11:05.06 | pharm | Samus_Aran: if you'd asked nicely and pointed out that packages.debian.org was offline in the first place then people might have been more co-operative... |
| 11:05.08 | Samus_Aran | pharm: I don't use Debian myself. I have used it in years past |
| 11:05.08 | viyyer | should the host name on jabber.xml be same as the DNS hostname ?? |
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| 11:05.50 | Samus_Aran | pharm: I did ask nicely ... |
| 11:05.51 | pharm | Samus_Aran: regardless, when it's up, packages.debian.org has the current data on the packages in Debian stable, testing, unstable and experimental. |
| 11:06.10 | altt | cheal : im planning on learning, istalling a shell or 2 will most likely be the second thing I do. Why do you ask? |
| 11:06.22 | pharm | Samus_Aran: but appeared to want people to do stuff that you ought to be able to do yourself, without explaining why that wasn't possible. See the difference? |
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| 11:06.48 | cheal | altt: because you most likely want to use sarge (testing) instead of woody |
| 11:06.54 | Samus_Aran | pharm: I was asking a very simple favour. this is one of the large reasons I stopped using Debian, it's lack of community |
| 11:06.58 | pharm | Samus_Aran: anyway, packages.debian.org is down, so give me the list again and I'll tell you the current versions in unstable. |
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| 11:07.10 | Samus_Aran | pharm: I have given thousands of hours of my own time to teaching others how to use GNU/Linux systems |
| 11:07.21 | pharm | Samus_Aran: there's plenty of community, they just don't like doing unnecessary work :) |
| 11:07.23 | altt | cheal : thanks im dling now |
| 11:07.38 | Samus_Aran | pharm: that isn't community where I come from, it is rudeness |
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| 11:08.01 | Samus_Aran | if it takes longer to tell someone off than to give them the answer they are after, I consider that rude |
| 11:08.03 | cheal | altt: great, usually people have to be persuaded before they do :) |
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| 11:08.08 | pharm | Samus_Aran: Tough. |
| 11:08.13 | billyoc | lol |
| 11:08.14 | azreal | Samus_Aran: are you from the land of make-believe? |
| 11:08.17 | pharm | Samus_Aran: |
| 11:08.18 | altt | lol |
| 11:08.29 | Samus_Aran | azreal: nope, just the real world with real people |
| 11:09.04 | Samus_Aran | pharm: k3b, KDE, GTK+, The GIMP, Gnome, Linux kernel, X server |
| 11:09.08 | azreal | Samus_Aran: oh, i thought i was too, and i run into people that don't like doing unnecessary work. |
| 11:09.22 | Samus_Aran | azreal: it isn't "work" typing in a simple command that takes a few seconds |
| 11:09.44 | petemc | Samus_Aran: enough already |
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| 11:10.13 | jm_ | fools keep us entertained daily |
| 11:10.20 | billyoc | :) |
| 11:11.39 | Samus_Aran | azreal: btw, do you actually consider it "work" to type in a command like "echo $(pacman -Q k3b kdelibs gtk2 gimp kernel26)" ? |
| 11:11.49 | Samus_Aran | I guess it is work to chat on IRC as well .. |
| 11:12.00 | Samus_Aran | should get paid by the hour |
| 11:12.16 | pharm | k3b: 0.11.20, KDE is 3.3.2-1, GTK+ is 2.6.2-4, GIMP is 2.2.4-2, Gnome is 2.8.2, Kernel is 2.6.10-1, X is 4.3.0 |
| 11:12.27 | pharm | Samus_Aran: now note how long that took me. |
| 11:12.46 | Samus_Aran | pharm: thank you kindly |
| 11:12.46 | azreal | Samus_Aran: no. i just didnt feel like it. |
| 11:13.09 | pharm | Samus_Aran: That's why people didn't want to do it. Each individual one may only be a few seconds, but it adds up to a couple of minutes work. If packages.debian.org had been up, you could have done that yourself. |
| 11:13.29 | jm_ | he wouldn't, he would still whine here |
| 11:13.44 | azreal | Samus_Aran: partly because you immediatley got on the defensive about being told what to do, when you should have been more clear in the first place. |
| 11:13.49 | pharm | Samus_Aran: note that almost all of the above (except KDE, Gnome etc) are heavily patched, so you can't compare with eg, the straight X 4.3 release. |
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| 11:13.49 | Samus_Aran | jm_: I went to the very first URL anyone in here mentioned, which was not accessable ... |
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| 11:14.15 | Samus_Aran | pharm: there is no Xorg on Debian ? |
| 11:14.26 | azreal | Samus_Aran: which someone else allredy elaborated on, so im not going to go there again. |
| 11:14.43 | pharm | Samus_Aran: Nope. After the sarge release. Some of the new drivers have been backported IIRC. |
| 11:14.50 | jm_ | samua;topic mentions how to get info about x.org release |
| 11:14.55 | jm_ | Samus_Aran ^^^^^^^ |
| 11:15.33 | Samus_Aran | azreal: I did not actually get defensive, heh. I stated to one person that I didn't have a Debian system with which to check, and another person that the URLs I had been given did not work for me. that isn't particularly defensive |
| 11:15.33 | ezhdeha | is there anyone that actually needs help with a problem here ? |
| 11:16.23 | CyberShadow | Help! I've done a dist-upgrade and sound doesn't work, no matter what I do! |
| 11:16.24 | pharm | Samus_Aran: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 11:16.33 | azreal | Samus_Aran: allright, forget it. you got what you asked for, no? |
| 11:16.40 | jc-denton | packages.debian.org is down |
| 11:16.51 | jc-denton | how do i get now a package without apt? |
| 11:16.59 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: what soundcard do u have ? |
| 11:17.05 | jm_ | why would apt care about packages.debian.org? |
| 11:17.06 | CyberShadow | Integrated AC'97 |
| 11:17.07 | pharm | jc-denton: download it from a debian mirror. |
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| 11:17.13 | CyberShadow | It worked before the dist-upgrade |
| 11:17.22 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: what did u upgrade from and to ? |
| 11:17.25 | jm_ | or did you use p.d.o to get a link? apt-get can show you a link |
| 11:17.27 | jm_ | then there's debget |
| 11:17.28 | Mash | hallo |
| 11:17.30 | jc-denton | pharm: but what will be the path? |
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| 11:18.00 | pharm | jc-denton: if packages.debian.org was up, I'd tell you to use it's search feature, but its not :( |
| 11:18.04 | Samus_Aran | azreal: yes, thanks to the generous soul that is known as pharm |
| 11:18.09 | pharm | jc-denton: try snapshot.debian.org instead? |
| 11:18.12 | CyberShadow | ezhdeha: to the latest unstable (i think), from the 2004-10-23 weekly |
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| 11:18.35 | pharm | jc-denton: sorry, snapshot.debian.net |
| 11:18.48 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: ok - does sound not work at all ? or just withing kde and/or gnome ? |
| 11:19.02 | CyberShadow | is there sound outside X? news to me |
| 11:19.08 | CyberShadow | how do I test that? |
| 11:19.22 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: of course there sound (and for that matter life) outside of X :) :) |
| 11:19.41 | ezhdeha | um, i guess u could just try "play <whatever>.mp3" |
| 11:19.43 | CyberShadow | life definitely exists |
| 11:19.44 | ezhdeha | from console |
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| 11:20.31 | CyberShadow | bash: play: command not found |
| 11:20.34 | jc-denton | pharm: that's why i asked |
| 11:20.45 | CyberShadow | KDE control center keeps saying "No such device: /dev/dsp" |
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| 11:21.40 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: check the permissions of /dev/dsp |
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| 11:22.16 | CyberShadow | ezhdeha: 660 |
| 11:22.34 | jc-denton | well i basically wanted to have the package from sarge |
| 11:22.39 | jc-denton | i know the name so i dont need to search |
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| 11:22.59 | jc-denton | i just dont get where it is on ftp.debian.org for example |
| 11:23.27 | CyberShadow | ezhdeha: changed to 666 - still won't work |
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| 11:23.50 | pharm | jc-denton: in that case ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/<first letter>/ |
| 11:23.50 | CyberShadow | anyway, if I su and open the file with mc I get the same error |
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| 11:23.58 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: ok - try `apt-get install play` |
| 11:24.00 | jc-denton | ah yes pool |
| 11:24.01 | jc-denton | k thx |
| 11:24.02 | pharm | jc-denton: in that case ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/<first letter>/<package name>/<package name>-<package version>.deb |
| 11:24.28 | pharm | or possible lib<first letter> if it's a library package... |
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| 11:24.45 | CyberShadow | ezhdeha: tried that already, no such package |
| 11:24.48 | CyberShadow | !find play |
| 11:24.50 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'play' (15 of 67): alsaplayer ;; alsaplayer-alsa ;; alsaplayer-common ;; alsaplayer-daemon ;; alsaplayer-esd ;; alsaplayer-gtk ;; alsaplayer-jack ;; alsaplayer-nas ;; alsaplayer-oss ;; alsaplayer-text ;; alsaplayer-xosd ;; avifile-player ;; beep-media-player ;; beep-media-player-dev ;; beep-media-player-scrobbler. |
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| 11:27.49 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: wish i could be more help at the moment, my system is currently doing it's monthly update, and i'm installing solaris 10 through vmware at the same time :) |
| 11:28.21 | CyberShadow | ezhdeha: ok, I'll go find that "play" meanwhile :) |
| 11:28.30 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: have u checked modules to make sure your sound card is initialising ? |
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| 11:29.25 | yam | how could I do a charset conversion on a big filesystem which current files/dirs are a mixture of two charsets? |
| 11:29.41 | CyberShadow | ezhdeha: how do I do that? |
| 11:29.56 | CyberShadow | in modconf, teh only enabled sound modules was soundcore |
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| 11:30.52 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: actually u don't need play if u have some wav files somewhere - u can just go `cat whatever.wav > /dev/dsp` |
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| 11:31.00 | pharm | yam: what charsets? |
| 11:31.21 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: `find /usr/share -iname "wav"` should find some 4 u |
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| 11:32.09 | CyberShadow | ezhdeha: I don't think that would work - I can't access /dev/dsp at all |
| 11:32.23 | CyberShadow | ezhdeha: "No such device" whatever I do |
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| 11:32.36 | bob2 | you're missing your soudnd driver |
| 11:32.39 | yam | pharm: some files/dirs are iso-8859-15 and other are cp437 and maybe cp850 too |
| 11:32.42 | bob2 | install hotplug on 2.6 or discover on 2.4 |
| 11:33.08 | CyberShadow | bob2: already tried discover |
| 11:33.10 | ezhdeha | cybershadow: crazy - in that case i'll let bob2 field this one :) out of my depth - sorry i couldn't have been of more help |
| 11:33.28 | CyberShadow | ezhdeha: thanks for your time anyway :) |
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| 11:33.38 | bob2 | CyberShadow: are you on 2.4? |
| 11:33.46 | bob2 | what sound card do you have? |
| 11:33.49 | kuo | hi , how to reset a config in order to reinstall a package from scratch ? it doesn't propose the configuration GUI when I invoke apt-get install something |
| 11:34.00 | bob2 | are you trying to use alsa? |
| 11:34.01 | CyberShadow | yes (unless apt-get dist-upgrade upgraded my kernel without asking first) |
| 11:34.07 | sep | kuo purge it first |
| 11:34.11 | CyberShadow | no, just OSS |
| 11:34.13 | pharm | yam: yurg. Um. Play games with tr ? |
| 11:34.22 | kuo | what do you mean sep ? |
| 11:34.23 | CyberShadow | Integrated AC'97 |
| 11:34.26 | sep | kuo: apt-get remove --purge packagename ; apt-get install packagename |
| 11:34.35 | CyberShadow | on a VIA KM400 chipset |
| 11:34.38 | kuo | ok, thank you |
| 11:34.45 | bob2 | no, that's not a sound chipset |
| 11:34.53 | streuner_ | CyberShadow: run 'lspci -v | grep audio' |
| 11:35.09 | streuner_ | and tell us the output |
| 11:35.20 | CyberShadow | 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
| 11:35.49 | yam | pharm: hehe mim playing with iconv for some days |
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| 11:35.57 | bob2 | CyberShadow: what kernel version? are you using alsa? what does "lsmod | grep -c snd_" print out? |
| 11:36.01 | pharm | yam: Looks like there are some functions in glib to do charset conversion using iconv (or you could use iconv directly I guess). |
| 11:36.14 | kuo | hem, and when the software has been compiled, need to proceed to manual removal ? |
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| 11:36.23 | CyberShadow | "lsmod | grep -c snd_" outputs one line: "0" |
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| 11:36.43 | streuner_ | uname -a |
| 11:36.43 | CyberShadow | kernel 2.4.27-1-386 |
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| 11:37.09 | CyberShadow | no no alsa (unless it configured itself) |
| 11:37.11 | prodope | i got this error when trying to make-kpkg kernel_image (2.6.11.6): make[2]: *** [kernel/pid.o] Segmentation fault |
| 11:37.14 | prodope | any help? |
| 11:37.20 | bob2 | CyberShadow: modprobe via82cxxx_audio |
| 11:37.29 | bob2 | prodope: probably bad ram or overclocking |
| 11:37.37 | CyberShadow | bob2: no output |
| 11:37.38 | polok__ | what's a way I can script something to cat a file, but only for words that are below a certain length? |
| 11:37.58 | bob2 | CyberShadow: now try "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" |
| 11:38.01 | prodope | bob2: it's a physical problem, not a problem in the kernel .config, then? |
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| 11:38.15 | bob2 | prodope: it's pretty unlikely you made gcc crash |
| 11:38.19 | CyberShadow | YAY!!!!!! |
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| 11:38.21 | bob2 | prodope: but bear in mind that's not the actual error |
| 11:38.23 | pharm | yam: There's a perl module which wraps the iconv functions as well -- libtext-iconv-perl |
| 11:38.33 | bob2 | prodope: paste the rest of the output to #flood |
| 11:38.54 | streuner_ | CyberShadow: calm down, its no big thing in debian to get sound :-)) |
| 11:38.55 | CyberShadow | Hurrah! GREAT thanks guys!!! |
| 11:38.57 | prodope | bob2: k, it's there |
| 11:39.00 | CyberShadow | yes |
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| 11:39.14 | CyberShadow | but for me, this is big - I learned a lot too :) |
| 11:39.29 | bob2 | CyberShadow: add via82cxxx_audio on it's own line to /dev/modules |
| 11:39.34 | tarzeau | Netcraft? |
| 11:39.53 | streuner_ | only an user cloak - not more... |
| 11:40.03 | CyberShadow | bob2: you mean /etc/modules? |
| 11:40.07 | streuner_ | yes |
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| 11:40.09 | bob2 | CyberShadow: er, rigt |
| 11:40.13 | bob2 | silly tab completion |
| 11:40.25 | tarzeau | bob2: how's the little continent? |
| 11:40.36 | CyberShadow | superb... why didn't modconf list that module? |
| 11:40.37 | bob2 | tarzeau: hm, getting cold |
| 11:40.45 | tarzeau | bob2: need a larger ozone hole? |
| 11:40.47 | bob2 | modconf is broken |
| 11:40.58 | streuner_ | tarzeau: haha |
| 11:41.08 | CyberShadow | oh. ok :) |
| 11:41.09 | bob2 | tarzeau: no, that's why I'm sunburnt |
| 11:41.16 | bob2 | down to 12C |
| 11:41.22 | bob2 | was 28C last week |
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| 11:42.21 | prodope | bob2: any ideas? |
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| 11:43.16 | bob2 | unless you're using some silly prerelease of gcc, I'd bet it's bad ram/motherboard/overclocking |
| 11:43.56 | prodope | bob2: ok, thanks for the diagnosis |
| 11:44.15 | bob2 | try running memtest86 for a while |
| 11:44.19 | bob2 | while = 12 hours |
| 11:44.21 | bob2 | if you can |
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| 11:45.07 | prodope | ok |
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| 11:51.59 | dramen | hello |
| 11:52.21 | dramen | my mouse doesn't work |
| 11:52.39 | streuner_ | !doesn't work |
| 11:52.39 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 11:53.21 | cheal | dramen: on sarge? |
| 11:53.32 | dramen | yes |
| 11:53.43 | dramen | i have got a usb-mouse |
| 11:53.43 | cheal | !drxx dramen |
| 11:53.44 | dpkg | dramen: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 11:53.59 | streuner_ | !usbmouse |
| 11:53.59 | dpkg | To use a USB mouse, do the following: [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe hid and mousedev by hand); it should beep at you when USB devices are (un)plugged. [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X |
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| 11:54.15 | dramen | can i change reconfigure the config files |
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| 11:54.30 | streuner_ | read what dpkg told you |
| 11:54.30 | cheal | dramen: that command will help you make it |
| 11:54.41 | Shadur | No, it's joined to local union and a couple of muscleboys are making loaded suggestions about how all sorts of workplace accidents could easily happen and wouldn't it be safer if you agreed to their payment plan? :) |
| 11:54.52 | dramen | normally i can change it in the /etc/X11/XFree86Config |
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| 11:55.05 | viyyer | hi... I've set my hostname in jabber.xml same as the DNS hostname. when I try to login. I get this error 20050404T11:35:00: [notice] (prog2.sarai.kit): bouncing a routed packet to sarcasurfist@prog2.sarai.kit from 13@c2s/81052D0: Unable to deliver, destination unknown |
| 11:55.21 | cheal | dramen: if you didn't edit that file manually already, use dpkg-reconfigure |
| 11:55.30 | streuner_ | dramen: are you 'learn-resisdent'? |
| 11:55.50 | plusmehr | hello, can somebody help me, I have problems with my touchpad |
| 11:55.57 | viyyer | I have set the authentication as mod_plain_text |
| 11:56.08 | Gnea | !tell plusmehr about ask |
| 11:56.14 | streuner_ | plusmehr: tell us the output of 'dpkg -l libc6' |
| 11:56.16 | viyyer | could some body help me.. configure jabberd |
| 11:56.33 | Gnea | !tell viyyer about ask |
| 11:56.51 | viyyer | Gnea, I've just asked it.. |
| 11:56.55 | viyyer | should the host name on jabber.xml be same as the DNS hostname ?? |
| 11:56.59 | viyyer | hi... I've set my hostname in jabber.xml same as the DNS hostname. when I try to login. I get this error 20050404T11:35:00: [notice] (prog2.sarai.kit): bouncing a routed packet to sarcasurfist@prog2.sarai.kit from 13@c2s/81052D0: Unable to deliver, destination unknown |
| 11:57.02 | Gnea | oic |
| 11:57.21 | viyyer | I have also set the authentication as mod_plain_text |
| 11:57.53 | Gnea | well hostname is usually the name of yer machine |
| 11:57.56 | Gnea | not dns |
| 11:58.09 | Gnea | i haven't done jabber successfully either |
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| 11:58.28 | tosh| | does anyone have linux 2.6 running on a soekris box? if so, where can I get a decent .config to start with? |
| 11:59.03 | Gnea | soekris? |
| 11:59.14 | streuner_ | sounds like solaris |
| 11:59.21 | Gnea | think. |
| 11:59.31 | Gnea | that's just not right |
| 11:59.37 | Gnea | solaris != linux |
| 11:59.39 | streuner_ | plusmehr: don't /msg me |
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| 11:59.43 | zulkifar | hi. I use debian wine and always got a warning from wine: "Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels to set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the config file". What does it mean and where/how to fix it? |
| 11:59.59 | streuner_ | plusmehr: we need only the whole output of the version |
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| 12:00.21 | plusmehr | 2.3.2.ds1-20 |
| 12:00.24 | cheal | zulkifar: did you try #winehq first? |
| 12:00.31 | artaxx | hi, all. i'm using jigdo-lite to download files for the iso image of the second sarge dvd (the first one went fine) and can't get it to download (m)any files. it stops at 4108 and says "no such file" all the time (trying ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org). i CAN google every file manually, i just [cartman]don't wanna[/cartman]. ;) |
| 12:00.36 | zulkifar | cheal: sure, 10 minutes ago |
| 12:00.39 | viyyer | Gnea, my DNS hostname and my hostname are both same.. |
| 12:01.00 | streuner_ | plusmehr: and what version of debian do you running actually? |
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| 12:01.14 | plusmehr | sarge |
| 12:01.14 | Gnea | viyyer: well that's not right |
| 12:01.19 | zulkifar | cheal: I guess ANY debian user who install wine face this problem :) |
| 12:01.27 | viyyer | Gnea, why so ? |
| 12:01.47 | streuner_ | plusmehr: /msg dpkg touchpad |
| 12:01.50 | cheal | artaxx: unless you have no internet on the target machine or want to install to many machines, you already have enough with the first DVD |
| 12:01.53 | Gnea | viyyer: because a hostname is the name of a host, the dns hostname is the internet name of the machine, which is not the name of the host |
| 12:02.20 | cheal | zulkifar: then maybe google will help you faster |
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| 12:02.39 | cheal | zulkifar: or the wine documentation, even |
| 12:03.18 | viyyer | Gnea, I don't understand why is it a problem still ? |
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| 12:03.49 | artaxx | cheal: i want to have as many packages as possible - although i do have dsl it's still not very common here and my friends might want to have a go at debian too. |
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| 12:04.13 | vvlaw | hello? |
| 12:04.23 | vvlaw | does anyone can help me ? |
| 12:04.52 | vvlaw | i want to install the quake3 in my hardisk ,but there are some errors :( |
| 12:04.55 | vvlaw | vvlaw:/home/vvlaw# sh linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run |
| 12:04.59 | vvlaw | Verifying archive integrity... All good. |
| 12:05.03 | vvlaw | Uncompressing Quake III Arena Point Release 1.32b ................................................................................................................................................. |
| 12:05.07 | vvlaw | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 12:05.11 | vvlaw | Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 12:05.15 | vvlaw | No UI drivers available |
| 12:05.19 | vvlaw | ./setup.sh: line 213: 2875 ¶Î´íÎó "$setup" "$@" 2>/dev/null |
| 12:05.19 | vvlaw | The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1 |
| 12:05.19 | vvlaw | Please contact Id software technical support at bugs@idsoftware.com, or ttimo@isoftware.com |
| 12:05.20 | vvlaw | The program returned an error code (1) |
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| 12:05.20 | cheal | vvlaw: stop please |
| 12:05.26 | Gnea | heh |
| 12:05.32 | tosh| | hooray for bots |
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| 12:05.42 | Gnea | vvlaw: that was stupid. |
| 12:05.52 | Gnea | vvlaw: you don't flood in here, you flood in #flood |
| 12:05.55 | plusmehr | does anyone have a asus notebook? |
| 12:06.02 | directhex|work | vvlaw, you read the troubleshooting section of the quake3 faq on id software's linux page, right? |
| 12:06.25 | Gnea | vvlaw: now, get root to be able to use X and get done with it |
| 12:06.30 | directhex|work | in this case i think installing sux & using sux rather than su would fix things |
| 12:06.48 | Gnea | agreed |
| 12:06.50 | vvlaw | sorry :( |
| 12:07.04 | streuner_ | plusmehr: no - but read linux-laptop.net - some tips are available there |
| 12:07.08 | directhex|work | does sarge not require sux? i've never had to use it |
| 12:07.24 | cheal | artaxx: sorry, I don't know what could be the problem. keep in mind that DVD 1 contains the vast majority of what you could need though |
| 12:07.41 | vvlaw | Gnea. you mean that, i need restart my pc, and loggin with root? |
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| 12:07.45 | artaxx | cheal: ok, thanx. |
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| 12:07.52 | milwatts | hey ppl |
| 12:07.55 | yogui | hi |
| 12:08.17 | yogui | is someone can help a newbi about ifconfig ? |
| 12:08.22 | hackeron | anyone knows a script to convert between filesystems from rescue disk? -- I'm talking about resizing, moving as much data as possible, resizing again, etc. |
| 12:08.31 | streuner_ | !n00b |
| 12:08.31 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 12:08.38 | vvlaw | directhex,where can i get the quake3 faq? i only got the run file from internet |
| 12:08.46 | streuner_ | yogui: ask, don't ask to ask |
| 12:08.53 | yogui | thanx |
| 12:08.53 | Gnea | vvlaw: heh yer definately a windows gamer, you think you need to reboot - no, install the sux program so you can run an X app in X |
| 12:08.54 | directhex|work | vvlaw, zerowing.idsoftware.com |
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| 12:09.18 | yogui | what is the command line for config my eth0 interface ? |
| 12:09.19 | cplx | what would u think of when choosing an encryption technology |
| 12:09.24 | directhex|work | vvlaw, out of interest, how did you start X, and how did you get into that root console? |
| 12:09.30 | streuner_ | yogui: DHCP? |
| 12:09.35 | yogui | yes |
| 12:09.44 | Gnea | !tell yogui about interface |
| 12:09.46 | Gnea | !tell yogui about interfaces |
| 12:09.47 | streuner_ | yogui: /msg dpkg dhcp client |
| 12:10.19 | vvlaw | directhex,i am using the IceWM,but not use the root account |
| 12:10.37 | Gnea | vvlaw: but you are su to root |
| 12:10.45 | Gnea | vvlaw: you showed us that already |
| 12:11.05 | directhex|work | vvlaw, so. by now i expect you've installed sux, run sux rather than su, and installed no problems? |
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| 12:12.27 | omegao | ? |
| 12:12.32 | cheal | artaxx: could you paste the full error (if concise enough), maybe someone would have a better idea? |
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| 12:12.53 | vvlaw | oh...i see that |
| 12:12.53 | artaxx | 6 lines ok? |
| 12:13.14 | cheal | artaxx: #flood |
| 12:13.15 | vvlaw | so i $su vvlaw. and type "sh *.run"again |
| 12:13.33 | cheal | artaxx: you'd be kicked for 5 lines here |
| 12:13.39 | artaxx | :D |
| 12:13.41 | vvlaw | and now , it show the Id software game setup :D |
| 12:13.50 | directhex|work | vvlaw, no. just quit whatever terminal you're in totally. open a new terminal. type 'sux', then 'sh quake3thingy.sh' |
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| 12:13.59 | jes-o-mat | hi guys |
| 12:14.00 | streuner|couch | 2 are ok, most people are pissed of by 3... |
| 12:14.33 | vvlaw | directhex,bash: sux: command not found |
| 12:14.34 | sceig | How can I do a clean update from python 2.3 to python 2.35 or python 2.4 ? |
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| 12:14.53 | streuner|couch | sceip: are they in debian? |
| 12:14.56 | vvlaw | directhex,now i can open the ID software game setup |
| 12:15.07 | vvlaw | directhex, is ti be ok now ? |
| 12:15.09 | cheal | artaxx: this package doesn't exist anymore in sarge |
| 12:15.12 | streuner|couch | !info python |
| 12:15.19 | dpkg | python: (An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version)), section python, is standard. Version: 2.3.5-2 (sid), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 460 kB |
| 12:15.24 | directhex|work | vvlaw, never mind then, but please, if you're told repeatedly "do this", and you domn't, it makes you look like a fekless moron |
| 12:15.26 | sceig | yes debian |
| 12:15.30 | artaxx | cheal: jeez. how come its in the official .jigdo then?? |
| 12:15.32 | omegao | #? |
| 12:15.33 | jes-o-mat | I have a problem setting up a raid1 via mdadm. I was able to configure it propably but after reboot it doesn't come up. When I manually run 'mdrun' some times after a while thee array is being discovered. anybody knows anything about it? |
| 12:15.34 | streuner|couch | sceip: what version? |
| 12:15.47 | directhex|work | jes-o-mat, yes, i do. want the lowdown? |
| 12:15.51 | sceig | 2.3 |
| 12:15.54 | sceig | soryy |
| 12:15.56 | sceig | sarge |
| 12:15.58 | cheal | artaxx: it's ben replaced by 1.0.2-1, which means your problem might be solved by trying to redownload jigdo templates or something like that |
| 12:16.02 | streuner|couch | !info python sarge |
| 12:16.07 | dpkg | python: (An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version)), section python, is standard. Version: 2.3.5-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 122 kB, Installed size: 452 kB |
| 12:16.09 | jes-o-mat | directhex|work: lowdown? |
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| 12:16.29 | streuner|couch | sceip: python 2.3.5 is in sarge |
| 12:16.34 | artaxx | cheal: i download all of those files (two .jigdo and two templates) yesterday from www.debian.org/blabla... |
| 12:16.39 | artaxx | dowloadED |
| 12:16.41 | cheal | artaxx: what probably happened is you downloaded index files, and sarge was updated after |
| 12:16.42 | directhex|work | jes-o-mat, out of curiosity, does "dpkg -l udev | grep ^ii" say anything? |
| 12:16.49 | streuner|couch | sceip: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
| 12:16.53 | jes-o-mat | No, I'm not using udev |
| 12:16.54 | artaxx | cheal: far-fetched. |
| 12:17.06 | cheal | artaxx: yes, in my experience jigdo hasn't been fun to use |
| 12:17.11 | smacnay | Is the mysql-server-4.1 recommended for casual use or is the straight mysql-server (no version numbers) the easier way to go? |
| 12:17.15 | sceig | libc6 2.3.2.ds1-20 |
| 12:17.15 | artaxx | cheal: i bet i'll get the same error after i download the templates again now. |
| 12:17.21 | jes-o-mat | I've already read abbout those problems regarding udev |
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| 12:17.43 | cheal | artaxx: I'm not sure |
| 12:17.44 | streuner|couch | sceig: anyway, you are running prolly sarge then, but what's the problem? |
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| 12:18.19 | cheal | artaxx: sarge is updated daily or each 2 days max |
| 12:18.20 | streuner|couch | sceig: you have already python 2.3.5 on your system? |
| 12:19.11 | sceig | I'm tring to build pypcap (python module for libpcap), and while building, the following error appears :TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects |
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| 12:19.11 | artaxx | i'm a big gentoo fan and i really don't think i'll start using debian. first of all, the mailing lists are way passe in contrast to the gentoo forums and this jigdo thingamajig is terrible. |
| 12:19.15 | sceig | i think that perhaps upgrading to 3.4 will solve the pb |
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| 12:19.37 | cheal | artaxx: jigdo might need improvement indeed |
| 12:19.39 | sceig | i'm on version 2.3.5 |
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| 12:19.52 | sceig | Python 2.3.5 (#2, Feb 9 2005, 00:38:15) |
| 12:19.52 | sceig | [GCC 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8)] on linux2 |
| 12:20.06 | cheal | artaxx: I don't like mailing lists neither :) |
| 12:20.09 | directhex|work | who the hell uses jigdo anyway? |
| 12:20.15 | aixkilledme | tards |
| 12:20.21 | streuner|couch | sceig: what does the docs say (pypcap)? |
| 12:20.31 | cheal | directhex|work: I used it. what do you recommend instead? |
| 12:20.32 | aixkilledme | and gentoo users, when they want to flame debian |
| 12:20.45 | streuner|couch | !start an distro war |
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| 12:20.49 | aixkilledme | heh |
| 12:20.56 | streuner|couch | !start a distro war |
| 12:20.56 | dpkg | Mandrake owns! |
| 12:21.04 | streuner|couch | here we go ;-) |
| 12:21.06 | directhex|work | cheal, wouldn't bother for 110mb of iso |
| 12:21.17 | directhex|work | !start a food fight |
| 12:21.19 | dpkg | meatloaf is teh sux |
| 12:21.24 | asg | !fruitsmite directhex|work |
| 12:21.25 | aixkilledme | turbolinux is on steroid! |
| 12:21.27 | sceig | it says that typing : python setup.py build and then python setup.py install will install pypcap |
| 12:21.40 | vvlaw | directhex,i use the $ account loggin the X system ,and open the a console |
| 12:21.41 | artaxx | cheal: jigdo needs a lethal injection. the progress of debian is painfully slow and paradoxally uses a tool for dowloading bleeding-edge, up-to-date which does not exist on debian mirrors. |
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| 12:21.59 | sceig | but i have an error while building File "/usr/lib/python2.3/distutils/sysconfig.py", line 176, in customize_compiler |
| 12:21.59 | sceig | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.59 | sceig | TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects |
| 12:21.59 | cheal | directhex|work: ok, but the netinst doesn't support PPPOE installs yet (or decently) AFAIK |
| 12:22.00 | vvlaw | than, i type the su , go to # , and type the sh *.run |
| 12:22.00 | artaxx | lacking "software" before "which". :) |
| 12:22.00 | streuner|couch | sceig: and this package isn't in debian either? |
| 12:22.06 | n4th4n | what package is dig in? |
| 12:22.06 | sceig | no :( |
| 12:22.12 | asg | n4th4n: dnsutils |
| 12:22.17 | asg | n4th4n: /msg dpkg search (in the future) |
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| 12:22.30 | streuner|couch | sceig: i have no clue about pyhton at all, try #python then |
| 12:22.35 | n4th4n | asg: how can i search on my system apt-cache search dig wasnt helpful |
| 12:22.39 | n4th4n | asg: ta |
| 12:22.40 | sceig | ok |
| 12:22.41 | sceig | tks |
| 12:22.52 | asg | n4th4n: there are other options listed in the factoid (apt-file for one) |
| 12:23.04 | sceig | but is there a cmd to quickly upgrade to python 2.4 |
| 12:23.06 | n4th4n | asg: ok |
| 12:23.07 | sceig | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.20 | streuner|couch | sceig: if its not in debian - nope. |
| 12:23.29 | asg | !info python2.4 sarge |
| 12:23.33 | cheal | artaxx: I don't really understand your last message. something you might not know is that sarge is frozen since a long time (probably too long) |
| 12:23.34 | dpkg | python2.4: (An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.4)), section python, is optional. Version: 2.4+2.4.1rc2-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 3414 kB, Installed size: 10948 kB |
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| 12:24.09 | streuner|couch | sceig: show us the output of 'dpkg - l | grep python' |
| 12:24.10 | cheal | artaxx: I mean, partly frozen |
| 12:24.28 | asg | cheal: like sorbet? |
| 12:24.34 | artaxx | cheal: wasn't aware of that. so _woody_ would be the way to go?? that sux. |
| 12:24.47 | cheal | asg: yeah...can't confirm for the taste, though :) |
| 12:24.57 | cheal | artaxx: definitely not |
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| 12:25.05 | asg | cheal: something with strawberries I expect. |
| 12:25.06 | artaxx | cheal: what then? |
| 12:25.19 | sceig | ii python 2.3.5-1 An interactive high-level object-oriented la |
| 12:25.19 | sceig | ii python-mysqldb 1.1.6-1.1 A Python interface to MySQL |
| 12:25.20 | sceig | ii python-newt 0.51.6-20 A NEWT module for Python |
| 12:25.20 | sceig | ii python2.3 2.3.5-1 An interactive high-level object-oriented la |
| 12:25.20 | sceig | ii python2.3-mysq 1.1.6-1.1 A Python interface to MySQL |
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| 12:25.25 | cheal | artaxx: sarge is the way to go, but testing will get more up to date after sarge is stable |
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| 12:25.42 | artaxx | cheal: so there is no way2go at this time? :D |
| 12:25.43 | sceig | ii python 2.3.5-1 An interactive high-level object-oriented la |
| 12:25.43 | sceig | ii python-mysqldb 1.1.6-1.1 A Python interface to MySQL |
| 12:25.43 | sceig | ii python-newt 0.51.6-20 A NEWT module for Python |
| 12:25.43 | sceig | ii python2.3 2.3.5-1 An interactive high-level object-oriented la |
| 12:25.43 | sceig | ii python2.3-mysq 1.1.6-1.1 A Python interface to MySQL |
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| 12:25.45 | streuner|couch | sceig: sorry |
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| 12:26.00 | cheal | artaxx: in case you didn't know already, the sarge release is probably not going as expected |
| 12:26.09 | streuner|couch | sceig: only for python2.4 |
| 12:26.41 | milwatts | hey ppl how do i see the availble mirrors from my country ? |
| 12:26.41 | cheal | artaxx: the only way to go is testing, which has some known issues like Xfree86 and more |
| 12:26.41 | artaxx | cheal: i see. but what would a wannabe debian user need to get _now_ so as to be able to admire his shiny new linux system? |
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| 12:26.43 | sceig | sorry, sending the output disconnected me. i hav'n see ur response |
| 12:27.13 | cheal | artaxx: sarge. but he won't get X |
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| 12:27.16 | streuner|couch | sceig: dpkg -l python2.4 (only the version) |
| 12:27.19 | cheal | .org |
| 12:27.31 | streuner|couch | sceig: its installed or not... |
| 12:27.47 | sceig | 2.3.5 is installed |
| 12:27.55 | streuner|couch | and no 2.4? |
| 12:28.02 | artaxx | everyone: what would you say to someone who uses gentoo - why is debian, iyo, the best distro around? |
| 12:28.11 | directhex|work | !why debian |
| 12:28.11 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
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| 12:28.37 | sceig | no |
| 12:29.02 | artaxx | "easy installation", huh? |
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| 12:29.18 | directhex|work | compared to gentoo any installation is easy |
| 12:29.20 | streuner|couch | sceig: well, take the advice of 'asg' then |
| 12:29.41 | directhex|work | though sarge install is pretty damned simple |
| 12:30.08 | aixkilledme | installing debian is getting easier and easier |
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| 12:30.15 | streuner|couch | sceig: and the docs say nothing about additional -dev packages you need in order to compile it? |
| 12:30.23 | sceig | nop |
| 12:30.30 | vvlaw | direxchex£¬are you use the debian OS or gentoo? |
| 12:30.31 | artaxx | now this - "all packages be found at a single site" is false. and my experience with jigdo confirms it. |
| 12:30.47 | directhex|work | vvlaw, i use debian sarge. |
| 12:30.52 | cheal | artaxx: d-i is in no way perfect...that doesn't mean you have any chances to convert anyone here to gentoo :-P |
| 12:30.57 | aixkilledme | artaxx: we told you nobody uses jigdo but tards and flamers |
| 12:31.20 | artaxx | aixkilledme: how the heck am i supposed to get sarge dvd's then? |
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| 12:31.29 | Pappa | anyone had success with XQF? |
| 12:31.31 | directhex|work | artaxx, why the hell are you using jigdo anyway? it's a throwback to last millenium. if you really want to get things via not-http-or-ftp, try bittorrent |
| 12:31.32 | aixkilledme | artaxx: why the fuck would you get DVDs ? |
| 12:31.39 | directhex|work | Pappa, it's highly unstable in my experience |
| 12:31.43 | artaxx | cheal: i'm really not trying to do that, i just want to find out why you think debian is better, that's all. |
| 12:31.48 | aixkilledme | artaxx: get the netinstall thingie, it's only 110MB |
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| 12:32.07 | Pappa | directhex|work: it's a piece of shit, i can't add master servers |
| 12:32.16 | je_fro | aixkilledme, probably because the debian documentation is from the last milennium |
| 12:32.19 | cheal | artaxx: what directhex|work pointed you to must be the best answer |
| 12:32.27 | artaxx | directhex|work: hate torrent. |
| 12:32.27 | kikid | newbie how to mount devices on desktop?? |
| 12:32.37 | streuner|couch | sceig: do you still get the same error when you compiling? |
| 12:32.46 | aixkilledme | je_fro: pardon me? |
| 12:32.57 | artaxx | aixkilledme: like i said, i want to have all the packages without needing to download them. |
| 12:33.04 | je_fro | last I looked jigdo was still recommended. |
| 12:33.09 | artaxx | aixkilledme: while installing, i mean. |
| 12:33.19 | artaxx | je_fro: exactly. |
| 12:33.56 | artaxx | btw, i only see cd torrents. |
| 12:34.23 | Piggy | i see dead people. |
| 12:34.26 | artaxx | i don't really get a kick out of switching between... how many? 9 disks? |
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| 12:34.45 | streuner|couch | Piggy: i only thought you see badgers? |
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| 12:34.53 | aixkilledme | artaxx: would you mind stopping that lame attempt at flaming the debian project for having outdated docs and no dvds? |
| 12:34.55 | sussudio | in soviet russia, badgers see you |
| 12:35.02 | PEACEYALL | sup a;; |
| 12:35.05 | PEACEYALL | all* |
| 12:35.11 | topgun | oulà ça parle anglais là Hello everywhere :D |
| 12:35.21 | aixkilledme | !fr |
| 12:35.22 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 12:35.27 | artaxx | aixkilledme: this is not a flame. |
| 12:35.39 | artaxx | aixkilledme: okay, it may be a fire drill. ;) |
| 12:35.39 | PEACEYALL | when iu try to login on gdm or any othe rit sas cannot write to authorization file , .... , i think it sbecause im out of disk space , what do i do? |
| 12:35.41 | cheal | directhex|work: I'm looking at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and I don't think it's obvious that bittorrent>jigdo there |
| 12:35.48 | jes-o-mat | what's up with packages.do? |
| 12:36.00 | streuner|couch | read /topic |
| 12:36.01 | zinx | artaxx: sarge is up to 14 or so CDs |
| 12:36.06 | aixkilledme | jes-o-mat: apparently down, at least was, last time I tried, about 1 2 hours ago |
| 12:36.08 | vvlaw | directhex,you mean that, the quake need to under the console ,and use the root account to install? not under the X system? |
| 12:36.09 | artaxx | zinx: holy moly. |
| 12:36.12 | jes-o-mat | ups =) |
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| 12:36.13 | zinx | artaxx: you almost never want to download even 1 of them. |
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| 12:36.28 | artaxx | zinx: yeah, that's what i was thinking right now. :D |
| 12:36.32 | zinx | artaxx: there's a net installer for a reason; you don't need 99% of the software in sarge. |
| 12:36.40 | aixkilledme | zinx: he wants all packages already available for install, without the need for downloading, which is kind of a fucked up case imho |
| 12:36.45 | jes-o-mat | anyone knows if the raidtools2 package is obsolete? |
| 12:36.49 | aixkilledme | zinx: then complains that it's about 9 cds worth |
| 12:36.55 | PEACEYALL | how can i run the terminal without starting gdm , because im stuck on gdm and i need teh terminal , and i cant log into gdm , so how canm i get teh terminal up? |
| 12:36.58 | zinx | aixkilledme: well, that's his problem then ;) |
| 12:37.00 | greycat | 9? when did it shrink to 9? |
| 12:37.08 | aixkilledme | zinx: indeed, and that's no good reason at all to flame |
| 12:37.11 | streuner|couch | jes-o-mat: mdadm? |
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| 12:37.26 | greycat | PEACEYALL: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 12:37.32 | PEACEYALL | ok |
| 12:37.42 | jes-o-mat | streuner|couch: doesn't really works, as described |
| 12:38.05 | vvlaw | directhex?may i know that question? |
| 12:38.10 | CyberShadow | By the way, I use this trick to avid the "disk shufle dance": make ISOs of the install CDs, mount them (add them to fstab) and add them as apt sources :D |
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| 12:38.37 | greycat | or you could just install them over the network |
| 12:38.39 | xam | CyberShadow: where is the trick? |
| 12:38.43 | directhex|work | vvlaw, your english is very poor, and because you're not calling me by name, i don't see your messages highlighted |
| 12:39.01 | zinx | i'm in awe at the GPL loophole sveasoft has found.. basically, if you distribute their firmware or complain about lack of source, or otherwise do anything sveasoft doesn't like, they won't send you new versions :/ |
| 12:39.01 | PEACEYALL | greycat i just said that i cant log in from gdm, so if i cant log in i cant use the terminal, thats why is there a way i can press a key combination to go to the terminal and not let gdm run? |
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| 12:39.15 | treestone | PEACEYALL: ctrl-alt-f1 gives you a console |
| 12:39.21 | greycat | PEACEYALL: ``or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console'' |
| 12:39.22 | zinx | sorry, wrong channel :x |
| 12:39.23 | PEACEYALL | ok |
| 12:39.24 | PEACEYALL | ty |
| 12:39.32 | greycat | PEACEYALL: from the factoid you were told to read |
| 12:39.56 | CyberShadow | xam: you don't have to insert 5 CDs to install 5 related packages with different usage ratios. if you mean that is'n cool, well it is for newbs like me :( |
| 12:39.56 | PEACEYALL | i did |
| 12:40.01 | PEACEYALL | but nvm now ty anywayz |
| 12:40.13 | directhex|work | vvlaw, in answer to your question, no, you're completely wrong, the quake 3 installer _NEEDS_ access to an x server to install, so it must either be installed as a regular user, or as root with access to a regular user's x server |
| 12:40.32 | xam | CyberShadow: you newbies are so easily exited ;) |
| 12:40.32 | directhex|work | hum... idoubt he has any packages beyong cd2 he needs to install |
| 12:40.51 | directhex|work | the cds are ordered by relevance, all the stuff normal people use is on cd1/2 |
| 12:41.04 | zinx | directhex|work: erh? unless it's broken, it doesn't need X (it should have a text-based installer that runs if DISPLAY isn't set) |
| 12:41.08 | greycat | !popcon |
| 12:41.08 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
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| 12:41.31 | aixkilledme | debian or #debian? |
| 12:41.35 | zinx | directhex|work: though, maybe that was added for ET / doom3, i dunno |
| 12:41.52 | directhex|work | zinx, feel free to modify loki_installer and force id software to make use of the changes |
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| 12:42.11 | zinx | directhex|work: ET / doom3 both have a text-based installer, and i'm pretty sure q3 does |
| 12:42.43 | zinx | directhex|work: there was no forcing involved; in fact, i half-forced it towards gui, by fixing xsu ;) |
| 12:42.54 | xam | mhh, popcon is busy? |
| 12:43.05 | directhex|work | popcon must run on gluck |
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| 12:43.36 | notty | hi , i have nforce2 and i want to setup sensors for it.... i loaded the modules but still no sensors.. any ideea what i have to do ? |
| 12:43.38 | idnar | gluck is *still* fscking? :P |
| 12:43.40 | xam | directhex: affirmative |
| 12:43.46 | viyyer | hi I am trying to setup jabber on my intranet.. do I still need a FQDN ?? |
| 12:43.51 | directhex|work | notty, which kernel? |
| 12:44.15 | notty | directhex|work: 2.6.11.6 |
| 12:44.26 | directhex|work | notty, you compiled your kernel wrong. |
| 12:44.44 | notty | directhex|work: i don't think that is the case |
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| 12:45.09 | directhex|work | notty, try running sensors_detect then, but lm_sensors is fine for everyone else |
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| 12:45.31 | notty | sensors_detect: command not found |
| 12:45.45 | zinx | notty: what do you mean by "but still no sensors"? |
| 12:46.00 | directhex|work | bleh |
| 12:46.02 | directhex|work | - not _ |
| 12:46.16 | notty | zinx: i get No sensors found! when i run sensors |
| 12:46.29 | zinx | notty: what version of debian? |
| 12:46.31 | directhex|work | sensors-detect |
| 12:46.43 | notty | zinx: unstable |
| 12:46.59 | zinx | (and, i suppose more importantly, what version of the lm-sensors package) |
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| 12:47.24 | zinx | notty: it's possible you left out support for sysfs, or sysfs isn't properly configured, if your lm-sensors package is up-to-date |
| 12:47.45 | jm_ | or your hardware is just not supported |
| 12:47.50 | Pappa | hm |
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| 12:48.27 | Pappa | is there a way to protect a program so that other programs can't access it's memory space, no matter what? (like on MMU level) |
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| 12:49.04 | zinx | jm_: there's always that :P |
| 12:49.27 | pif | hi, I'm looking for the before last version of nvidia-glx, where can I find it? |
| 12:49.53 | directhex|work | on debian.org |
| 12:50.07 | pif | they keep how many versions of packages? |
| 12:50.09 | directhex|work | !info nvidia-glx sid |
| 12:50.11 | dpkg | nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-1 (sid), Packaged size: 2966 kB, Installed size: 9588 kB |
| 12:50.19 | directhex|work | oh, an old version. snapshot.debian.net |
| 12:50.20 | vvlaw | directhex|work,thank you for your help, but forgive me.i'm not english,so i hard to understand what you said,i need more time to understand it:( sorry~~~ |
| 12:50.32 | cheal | lm-sensors is working with nforce2 and 2.6 for me |
| 12:50.42 | pif | thanks |
| 12:50.50 | directhex|work | vvlaw, why not use a channel which speaks your language rather than english? |
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| 12:54.03 | Pappa | heh |
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| 12:54.15 | Pappa | the linux kernel is known. google "2.6" :) |
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| 12:54.29 | jcook | "Debian GNU/Linux" ... is the 'GNU' part a prefix for the kernel name? ... ... if one does not want to include in a title 'Linux' ... is "Debian GNU" still correct ? |
| 12:55.00 | je_fro | only if you're running hurd |
| 12:55.04 | jm_ | no, GNU is userland stuff |
| 12:55.36 | CyberShadow | what is the name of the package with the kernel sources (or how do I install them from the distribution CDs)? |
| 12:55.37 | greycat | !gnu/linux |
| 12:55.37 | dpkg | well, gnu/linux is the GNU system running with the Linux kernel or the choice of the GNU generation, or ask me about "linux-and-gnu" and "why-gnu-linux" |
| 12:55.47 | greycat | CyberShadow: apt-cache search --names-only kernel source |
| 12:56.26 | CyberShadow | thank |
| 12:56.39 | CyberShadow | s |
| 12:56.50 | paulswm | jcook: actually an explanation is on the home page of the debian web site in the first paragraph, certaibly not too hard to find. http://www.debian.org/ |
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| 12:57.07 | jcook | pah |
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| 12:57.45 | cheal | Pappa: that rather shows me that gnu is known. see kernel, openbsd, gnome, vine linux, phpmyadmin on first page :) |
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| 12:58.33 | vvlaw | directhex|work£¬we seldom use these system here ... |
| 12:58.37 | Pappa | well |
| 12:58.46 | Pappa | openbsd != gnu. |
| 12:58.53 | cheal | ok |
| 12:58.59 | Pappa | gnu != kernelspace. |
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| 12:59.18 | greycat | Pappa: until Hurd stabilizes, anyway |
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| 12:59.36 | aixkilledme | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.41 | aixkilledme | will that happen anytime? |
| 12:59.43 | Pappa | yep. i'd like to see hurd. if ever. |
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| 12:59.54 | aixkilledme | Pappa: you can try it alreéady |
| 13:00.03 | Pappa | aixkilledme: probably not. it's not their first priority. |
| 13:00.10 | zinx | hurd lacks sufficient developers, methinks |
| 13:00.12 | Pappa | yes, i had Debian GNU/Hurd once. |
| 13:00.15 | aixkilledme | I wish they had priorities :) |
| 13:00.18 | cheal | wow |
| 13:00.20 | je_fro | once the devs lay off the hashish, I predict hurd will be a huge success. |
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| 13:00.40 | Pappa | well |
| 13:00.42 | aixkilledme | I think hurd will never take off |
| 13:00.57 | Pappa | well it might |
| 13:01.06 | Gathond | aixkilledme: what do you mean ... it can start processes now :) (the L4 port anyway) |
| 13:01.10 | aixkilledme | yeah when Linux gets commercial |
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| 13:01.15 | zinx | the entry bar for new OSs is pretty high, due to the number of drivers that need to be (re)written, usually |
| 13:01.16 | Pappa | maybe it's just too modular. |
| 13:01.47 | aixkilledme | Gathond: it took like 4 years to get a decent IP stack, and I had to update my definition of decent to fit their standards |
| 13:01.49 | zinx | and Linux sure ain't helping anyone in that arena.. hard enough to get its own drivers working with it, if they aren't in the vanilla tree ;) |
| 13:02.06 | je_fro | I hope they get crackin....in case SCO is able to pull off a miracle |
| 13:02.13 | Gathond | aixkilledme: is that hurd/MACH or hurd/L4 ? |
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| 13:02.36 | Pappa | je_fro: if SCO did that, a lot of the linux hackers would probably look into Hurd. |
| 13:02.40 | aixkilledme | Gathond: must've been mach when I tried it |
| 13:02.52 | Pappa | it's still mach |
| 13:02.59 | zinx | Pappa: hurd's using errno.h too |
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| 13:03.09 | bodq | what is the debian package that will read this fike "gb.db.db: Berkeley DB 1.85 (Hash, version 2, native byte-order)" |
| 13:03.22 | Gathond | Pappa: yes, but the L4 was the one that recently started its first process :) |
| 13:03.36 | cheal | running debian gnu/hurd must be like running experimental :) |
| 13:03.38 | zinx | bodq: libdb1 or such |
| 13:03.50 | bodq | zinx: ugh. libc5 ... |
| 13:04.03 | jcook | does linux have async message passing? |
| 13:04.05 | zinx | bodq: ugh. berkeley db. |
| 13:04.16 | aixkilledme | cheal: yeah, it's like running sid when you're a beginner --> you can't do much, and the system gets fucked up very quickly |
| 13:04.37 | cheal | aixkilledme: but you can't learn? :) |
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| 13:05.23 | aixkilledme | cheal: well the good point is that you can, the Hurd is actually a nice opportunity to learn for those who want it :) |
| 13:05.26 | bodq | zinx: there seems to be no -util package... |
| 13:06.15 | je_fro | that's a damn good point aixkilledme |
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| 13:07.51 | nashirak | Does anyone know if there are any opensource tools for debian where I can have a visual database of all the computers on my network, and then, click on a box (or whatever represents a computer) and say get information on, what the ip address of the machine it is, what software is running etc....? |
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| 13:08.16 | aixkilledme | nashirak: nagios? |
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| 13:08.35 | aixkilledme | nashirak: you want an equivalent of ITO or Patrol? |
| 13:08.40 | anhi | people.debian.org down :/ |
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| 13:08.51 | asg | anhi: yes |
| 13:08.54 | aixkilledme | anhi: /topic |
| 13:08.57 | morgajelWork | is there an rss feed anywhere that I can get security updates from? |
| 13:09.12 | jm_ | ITO? that name has long been obsoleted ;) |
| 13:09.14 | nashirak | aixkilledme: I never heard of either of those but, if it does what I said above then yes. |
| 13:09.35 | aixkilledme | jm_: takes longer to be obsoleted when you cross the ocean |
| 13:09.48 | anhi | aixkilledme: sorry, got to get a working /topic alias |
| 13:10.07 | CyberShadow | what are the pros and cons to upgrading the kernel to 2.6? |
| 13:10.29 | morgajelWork | ah, found it |
| 13:10.46 | jm_ | aixkilledme: naah, it has another name now, and it used yet another as a successor to ITO |
| 13:11.43 | aixkilledme | jm_: what's the name? |
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| 13:11.53 | aixkilledme | hpov? |
| 13:12.21 | zinx | bodq: such is the way of database systems that don't care the least little bit about backwards compatibility |
| 13:12.22 | dramen | how can i make update to kde 3.4 |
| 13:12.25 | jm_ | aixkilledme: it's called OVO now |
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| 13:12.34 | Kzimm | hi |
| 13:12.34 | cheal | dramen: ask #debian-kde |
| 13:12.41 | aixkilledme | ok |
| 13:12.54 | aixkilledme | bloody commerical produucts changing names every two weeks |
| 13:13.06 | jm_ | yeah, pretty stupid - marketing crap |
| 13:13.09 | aixkilledme | and bloody lag too, make me type like I were bob2 |
| 13:13.13 | green_earz | CyberShadow: with the 2.6 kernel scsi emulation is built in. with the 2.4 kernel you need to add this opintion, in lilo or grub. scsi emulation is for burning |
| 13:13.52 | directhex|work | CyberShadow, 2.6 also has lm-sensors modules and alsa modules supplied as standard, no extra compiles |
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| 13:14.01 | directhex|work | CyberShadow, 2.6 has far far superior SATA support |
| 13:14.34 | aixkilledme | 2.6 has the new versionning standard too, 2.6 is bleeding edge!! |
| 13:14.52 | CyberShadow | ok. any cons? |
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| 13:15.01 | tra1a1a | not that bleeding |
| 13:15.23 | tra1a1a | I'm using it on a laptop and on a desktop for quite some time now. |
| 13:15.24 | directhex|work | CyberShadow, can be unstable, i.e. frequent regression between versions |
| 13:15.52 | CyberShadow | what about overall speed/productivity? |
| 13:15.55 | nashirak | aixkilledme: Ok like Nagios, except I dont really need monitoring tools, simply information about each computer, Bar code number, hostname, etc... |
| 13:16.14 | je_fro | 2.6 is faster |
| 13:16.23 | aixkilledme | nashirak:didn't you mention processes too? |
| 13:16.26 | Kzimm | hi www.pastebin.com/266933 <== see the size of the partitiona nd see the transfert ? i can't see well the probleme please anyone can help ? |
| 13:16.33 | directhex|work | yes, it is, by some rather huge margins in some situations |
| 13:16.46 | jm_ | nashirak: search for "hardware inventory" on freshmeat |
| 13:16.47 | directhex|work | that said, 2.6 is usually slower for playing windows games via wine/cedega |
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| 13:17.03 | aixkilledme | no kidding? |
| 13:17.03 | CyberShadow | sounds good... thanks, oh wise ones :) |
| 13:17.12 | aixkilledme | I gotta revert to 2.4 then |
| 13:17.22 | aixkilledme | and stop using the shitty ipw2200 |
| 13:17.29 | nashirak | aixkilledme: No simply a visual database of what computers are where and what kind of settings, ip address, etc.. |
| 13:17.34 | nashirak | jm_: ok |
| 13:17.34 | wolvie_ | I've just installed honeyd on my sarge machine and am created a windows xp comp. Running nmap againt that host however can't detect the os version. Any ideas of what's wrong? |
| 13:17.39 | aixkilledme | nashirak: what jm said then |
| 13:19.19 | asg | wolvie_: when you nmap it, which ports are shown as listening |
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| 13:19.52 | wolvie_ | asg, I've setup only a basic script web.sh on 8080 |
| 13:20.12 | wolvie_ | asg, all other are set 'action reset' |
| 13:21.01 | asg | wolvie_: that should be fine, not sure what's wrong. |
| 13:21.19 | paulswm | Kzimm: You obviously ran out of space on /dev/sda2. df does not show partiton sizes. It shows filesystem sizes. To see partition sizes, use sfdisk -l or cfdisk -l |
| 13:21.33 | bodq | zinx: what can I do? :( |
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| 13:22.52 | Kzimm | paulswm: thank a lot |
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| 13:23.12 | paulswm | Kzimm: you're welcome |
| 13:23.13 | Kzimm | paulswm: iw ant to the exact same parition on 2 disk how can i do it well |
| 13:23.21 | yogui | how to define a gateway with ifconfig please ? |
| 13:23.25 | wolvie_ | asg, so what should I do to make mnap detect the pot OS as windows? |
| 13:23.26 | tix64 | bodq: maybe use the db3_dump185 from libdb3-util? |
| 13:23.29 | jm_ | yogui: you don't |
| 13:23.41 | yogui | so how to ? |
| 13:23.55 | jm_ | with route command, but why don't you just update your interfaces file properly? |
| 13:24.16 | yogui | jm_: because i don't who how do this |
| 13:24.18 | paulswm | Kzimm: use cfdisk. Open one disk in one window adn the other in another one, and partitoon the second one to match the first |
| 13:24.32 | yogui | jm_: with route, how ? |
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| 13:24.36 | greycat | yogui: man interfaces |
| 13:24.38 | greycat | yogui: man route |
| 13:24.40 | Kzimm | paulswm: i need specify the size in blocks so ? |
| 13:24.57 | yogui | oki |
| 13:25.13 | jm_ | yogui: you also have examples in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown |
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| 13:25.46 | bodq | tix64: nope :( db_dump185: gb.db.db: Invalid argument |
| 13:26.12 | yogui | thanxx |
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| 13:28.29 | wolvie_ | asg, Let me ask this way. What I want to achive is to create a pot which when scanned with nmap -O will introduce as windows host. I've already set the personality to windows in honeyd.conf. What to do next? |
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| 13:29.44 | tix64 | bodq: "db3_dump185 -f gb.dump gb.db.db" doesn't work? maybe the bdb file is corrupt. |
| 13:30.04 | xk | how many db formats are there? |
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| 13:30.11 | xk | all incompatible with eachother. |
| 13:30.16 | greycat | too many |
| 13:30.18 | Kzimm | paulswm: cfdisk of fdisk can specify the EXACT size :/ or i don't find it |
| 13:30.24 | tix64 | xk: many. as with anything. |
| 13:30.47 | xk | good luck trying to convert them. |
| 13:31.00 | bodq | tix64: i;ve just recovered it from backup |
| 13:31.15 | xk | tix64: that's not the exact problem... problem is that it's a challenge to convert to/from. |
| 13:31.17 | bodq | xk: at least 5 are in debian |
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| 13:31.46 | bodq | xk, even 6 |
| 13:31.49 | asg | wolvie_: well, afair, nmap requires at least one open and one closed port to be able to do reliable fingerprinting. |
| 13:31.51 | paulswm | Kzimm: I don't understand your question. You can create partitions of whatever size you want using cfdisk. You can see partition sizes using sfdisk -l or fdisk -l. That's all the information you need, apart from possibly reading the man pages. |
| 13:32.04 | xk | it's sun syndrome. make something incompatible with itself. |
| 13:32.10 | xk | tcl and java styles. |
| 13:32.36 | Kzimm | paulswm: ho it's okay i just touyght that specify a partition at creation in Meg wasn't very exact but seems it's good |
| 13:32.40 | Kzimm | paulswm: thanks a lot |
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| 13:33.16 | pet\bed | when using quota, how can i get the result in human readable format, as in df :) |
| 13:33.32 | wolvie_ | asg, ok thanks will experiment further. |
| 13:33.34 | xk | just discovered one of my machines had a bad ram module. it's weird - I checked with memtest 6 months ago, no probs. |
| 13:33.47 | asg | wolvie_: you might want to ask on their mailing lists also |
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| 13:34.52 | xk | is there a maximum module size for sdram for p1 boards? |
| 13:35.42 | xk | 128megs don't work :/ |
| 13:35.54 | tosh| | thats really a hardware question and depends on your board/hardware |
| 13:36.16 | xk | tosh|: good luck finding documentation on a 9 year old motherboard. |
| 13:36.28 | xk | I'm just asking for other people's experience. |
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| 13:36.55 | xk | I'm not asking "my motherboard doesn't POST, what can be the problem" |
| 13:36.58 | tix64 | bodq: and? unfortunately bdb is not the most stable db format known to earth. i just had too many bdb files break down. |
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| 13:37.35 | bodq | tix64: how can I verify that it's ok? another file does't work either |
| 13:37.51 | bodq | tix64: and it has beed reported to work before the upgrade |
| 13:38.38 | CyberShadow | how do I make Firefox my default browser? its help file tells me I should push a non-existing button. |
| 13:39.10 | yogui | How define a dns server please ? |
| 13:39.16 | xk | yogui: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:40.20 | streuner | yogui: DHCP? |
| 13:40.20 | greycat | yogui: man resolv.conf |
| 13:40.20 | yogui | xk : and what do i write in this file ? |
| 13:40.24 | bodq | tix64: hmm |
| 13:40.33 | yogui | no dchp |
| 13:40.42 | CyberShadow | isn't there an option "open URLs with this application" *somewhere* in KDE? |
| 13:40.45 | bodq | tix64: i'm trying to move from freebsd to linux. can *that* be a problem? |
| 13:40.49 | xk | yogui: man resolv.conf, or if you're lazy: "nameserver IP.OF.DNS" |
| 13:41.21 | xk | bodq: I've tried reading db files made on solaris on linux... I gave up. |
| 13:41.22 | yogui | oki thank you |
| 13:41.28 | tix64 | bodq: maybe you could install db-1.85 from source (best in a chroot, to not destroy anything). |
| 13:41.49 | valdyn | CyberShadow: man update-alternatives |
| 13:42.17 | tix64 | bodq: maybe this is a problem. but i don't have that much experience with bdb (and *bsd). |
| 13:42.32 | CyberShadow | valdyn: are you sure that's what I need? |
| 13:43.55 | bodq | xk: solaris.. it had different byteorder, didn't it? |
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| 13:45.49 | xk | bodq: yeah. |
| 13:46.05 | valdyn | CyberShadow: its the debian way to set default programs for whatever, some applications follow it, some do not |
| 13:46.11 | xk | bah @ avidemux can't even sync a/v properly. |
| 13:46.12 | jm_ | bodq: it's about Sparc CPU-s, not about Solaris |
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| 13:47.09 | CyberShadow | valdyn: kde seems not... the alternative to URLs is set to w3m, a text-based browser (while in KDE URLs open with Konqueror) |
| 13:47.22 | valdyn | bodq: endianess is an arch issue, not an OS issue |
| 13:47.55 | smltiger | oh |
| 13:48.30 | bodq | jm_, valdyn, I know |
| 13:49.05 | bodq | tix64: does it really build? (1.85) |
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| 13:49.38 | CyberShadow | valdyn: sorry, my mistake - I was looking at www-browser, while it shouldv'e been x-www-browser |
| 13:49.55 | yogui | when i ping www.google.com i have an unkwon host message. why ? |
| 13:50.09 | opcodevoid | Hi, my friend as let someone have a shell on his debian box. Does anyone know the law if for say paranoid reasons this person uses it as a drone for spam or virii or tries to hack mi5? |
| 13:50.16 | opcodevoid | i.e who is liable? |
| 13:50.41 | greycat | yogui: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 13:50.51 | tix64 | bodq: i don't know. you have to try it (maybe use gcc272, hehe). |
| 13:51.22 | yogui | greycat : yes i do this, i've add the line with my dns server but i have this messag again |
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| 13:51.31 | Faithful | So what's the word on the best dual screen cards to get these days? nVidia ?? |
| 13:51.32 | xk | opcodevoid: if the person gave the shell to someone legitimately, then the person who runs/owns the machine is liable. |
| 13:51.45 | greycat | yogui: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:52.02 | opcodevoid | xK, no shit? |
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| 13:52.15 | xk | opcodevoid: unless you bullshit to them and say it was hacked. :) that has happened to me. |
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| 13:52.25 | valdyn | CyberShadow: mailcap does something similar too, but you were talking about "default browser", mailcap handles which tool opens which type of document |
| 13:52.28 | opcodevoid | So how can i be liable against someone elses actions? |
| 13:52.31 | brusso | hello |
| 13:52.39 | brusso | I have a problem with perl. |
| 13:52.39 | Gathond | xk: Im not sure he is liabe for what the person does, not if he can prove what user did it |
| 13:52.41 | brusso | USR/BIN/PERL: relocation error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Unix/Syslog/Syslog.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Gthr_key_ptr |
| 13:52.43 | yogui | is someone could be more precize than graycat ? |
| 13:52.50 | brusso | Can I resolved it?? |
| 13:52.56 | greycat | yogui: /bin/cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:52.59 | greycat | is that precise enough? |
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| 13:53.21 | opcodevoid | greycat is this some sort of connection problem your solving? |
| 13:53.22 | RichiH | greycat: you forgot \n |
| 13:53.28 | RichiH | or \r, rather |
| 13:53.36 | greycat | RichiH: but I did hit enter ;-) |
| 13:53.39 | xk | opcodevoid: ok... I guess if you cooperate and give them their name... you're not liable. |
| 13:53.48 | yogui | graycat: thanks to guy like you, linux don't grow ... |
| 13:53.57 | RichiH | greycat: and how do i see you hit enter? there is no visual for me to discern that |
| 13:54.05 | RichiH | you could append lots of spaces |
| 13:54.24 | greycat | *plonk* |
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| 13:54.39 | opcodevoid | Cheers xK. |
| 13:54.49 | green_earz | yogui: is it a network card you are seting up ? |
| 13:54.51 | opcodevoid | Greycat i solved my problem. Really easy :-P |
| 13:54.56 | streuner | what the hell? Let greycat alone! :-)) |
| 13:55.11 | greycat | green_earz: you should see his /lastlog. it's quite depressing. |
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| 13:55.28 | valdyn | greycat: more like funny |
| 13:56.31 | bodq | tix64: and libc4? :) |
| 13:56.36 | colter | Im considering giving up my dual boot system for a linux-only environment combined with wine. Are there any security caveats common to wine I should consider? |
| 13:56.42 | RichiH | !debain |
| 13:56.42 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 13:56.43 | RichiH | :p |
| 13:56.46 | bodq | tix64: I would not mind installation instructions, there seems to be no make install |
| 13:56.52 | asg | colter: wine is bug for bug compatible. |
| 13:56.52 | bodq | i.e. no install target |
| 13:57.08 | RichiH | colter: it can run windows apps |
| 13:57.12 | toresbe | opcodevoid: heh, well, works if you know the friend IRL, not over IRC ;) |
| 13:57.23 | xk | ;) |
| 13:57.26 | directhex|work | actually, most spyware won't run under wine |
| 13:57.34 | directhex|work | i tried some msie malware, none of it worked |
| 13:57.44 | asg | directhex|work: oh? interesting. |
| 13:58.03 | directhex|work | i was very disappointed |
| 13:58.03 | tix64 | bodq: no idea. never manually installed bdb. sorry. |
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| 13:58.25 | colter | asg: would you recommend not using it? |
| 13:58.31 | darkskiez | is it sealne's birthday today? |
| 13:58.36 | green_earz | yogui: to help you set up the net work card apt-get install etherconf and you will need to know your gateway ip subnet info broadcast and dns info |
| 13:58.41 | darkskiez | oh |
| 13:58.43 | darkskiez | wrong channel |
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| 13:59.18 | asg | colter: I don't use it, never had a need. |
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| 14:00.08 | colter | asg: ok, thanks anyway |
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| 14:02.49 | green_earz | yogui: thats if you want a static ip, you can pick the dynamic ip setup. that should look after you |
| 14:03.47 | greycat | !faq |
| 14:03.47 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 14:04.09 | greycat | !wikifaq everyone NetworkingPage |
| 14:04.09 | dpkg | everyone: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/NetworkingPage or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 14:04.49 | torc | if apt-get dist-upgrade is getting gcc-3.4.3, does that mean, that i am on a new 'testing' now? |
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| 14:05.10 | addNtoX | hoi folkZ |
| 14:05.24 | valdyn | !info gcc testing |
| 14:05.25 | asg | s/folkZ/hoi polloi/ |
| 14:05.26 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 28 kB |
| 14:05.36 | valdyn | !info gcc-3.4 testing |
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| 14:05.37 | addNtoX | polloi? whats this? |
| 14:05.37 | streuner | torc: describe 'new testing' |
| 14:05.38 | dpkg | gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-12 (sarge), Packaged size: 1457 kB, Installed size: 4188 kB |
| 14:05.50 | asg | addNtoX: people |
| 14:05.52 | valdyn | torc: no, gcc-3.4 has been available in testing for a long time |
| 14:06.06 | torc | i know. |
| 14:06.11 | addNtoX | asg: ok, next time i will say this :) |
| 14:06.21 | torc | but i have the stock 3.3.5 in my sarge install. |
| 14:06.27 | torc | this morning i just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade - and its getting 3.4.3 for me ;) |
| 14:06.32 | asg | addNtoX: it was a play on works, you can, of course, say whatever you please ;) |
| 14:06.38 | asg | s/works/words/ |
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| 14:06.49 | bodq | tix64: alright, how can I create the database anew? |
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| 14:07.56 | valdyn | torc: maybe "apt-cache rdepends gcc-3.4" can give you a clue, though more likely you already had gcc-3.4 before |
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| 14:08.53 | torc | gcc-3.3 is what dpkg -l does say ;) |
| 14:09.13 | torc | now 3.4 - maybe its because i switched off the box accidentaly. |
| 14:09.15 | green_earz | on the sarge install cd 1 there is the option to check the cd integrity, if i mount the burned cd and use md5sum on the md5sum.txt > md5sum -c md5sum.txt > is this doing the same job of checking the cd integrity ? |
| 14:09.22 | torc | while it was updating or something. |
| 14:09.25 | valdyn | torc: you should have both installed now |
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| 14:10.04 | _joey | what 's the name of the script to configure rc scripts? |
| 14:10.16 | Nosf3ratu | rcconf |
| 14:10.18 | torc | valdyn: i thought it could be because of some sarge->stable transition. |
| 14:10.19 | valdyn | torc: "dpkg -l gcc" |
| 14:10.37 | torc | 3.3.5-1 |
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| 14:10.40 | Kano | hi |
| 14:10.54 | Kano | why is people.debian.org down? |
| 14:10.55 | torc | apt-get dist-upgrade offers a 45.MB download ;) |
| 14:11.09 | aixkilledme | can I have stable versions of cvs in sarge, and not the feature releases? |
| 14:11.48 | Nosf3ratu | Kano, because debian.org is down. (topic) |
| 14:11.54 | aixkilledme | Feature CVS 1.12.10 has been released. // Feb 3, 2005 Stable CVS Version 1.11.19 Released! |
| 14:12.11 | aixkilledme | I want the stable cvs, shall I take woodys? |
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| 14:12.26 | jes-o-mat | Kano: because things happen |
| 14:12.26 | valdyn | !info cvs sarge |
| 14:12.29 | dpkg | cvs: (Concurrent Versions System), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.12.9-11 (sarge), Packaged size: 1408 kB, Installed size: 2928 kB |
| 14:12.43 | aixkilledme | 1.12.x is the feature releases tree |
| 14:12.47 | aixkilledme | while 1.11 is the stable one |
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| 14:12.56 | torc | valdyn: can i reset the apt-get updated database somehow? |
| 14:13.02 | valdyn | aixkilledme: i would recommend grabbing an old sarge cvs packge from snapshot.debian.net |
| 14:13.11 | aixkilledme | valdyn: how bout the security updates tho? |
| 14:13.15 | valdyn | torc: "apt-get update" does that |
| 14:13.19 | Kano | is there a mirror for that server? |
| 14:13.29 | aixkilledme | I d just install cvs from sarge if my cvs admin wasn't pulling my leg |
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| 14:13.35 | pharm | aixkilledme: ? |
| 14:13.53 | aixkilledme | pharm: what is that supposed to mean? |
| 14:14.04 | torc | valdyn: then should i accept that 45MB upgrade? |
| 14:14.12 | pharm | aixkilledme: If you're only using the client, then you probably don't care so much about security issues I guess... |
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| 14:14.17 | valdyn | torc: how should i know |
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| 14:14.20 | pharm | aixkilledme: typo |
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| 14:14.28 | torc | did 'apt-get update' again to be sure. |
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| 14:14.39 | valdyn | torc: usually yes, but how should i know if you want to do this |
| 14:15.04 | aixkilledme | pharm: I wouldn't have a cvs admmin to pelase if I were running the client only |
| 14:15.05 | Yoninux | hello, i have troubles with update and version (php/sql) is it possible for you to check with me my sources.list |
| 14:15.10 | aixkilledme | damn lag |
| 14:15.13 | foobared | !tell me about kernel |
| 14:15.27 | torc | valdyn: should i change 'testing' to 'stable' in my sources list as soon as sarge goes stable? |
| 14:15.54 | greycat | torc: if you want that, just change 'testing' to 'sarge' right now |
| 14:15.54 | valdyn | torc: no, change "testing" to "sarge" now already |
| 14:15.54 | directhex|work | torc, change it today. |
| 14:16.00 | pharm | aixkilledme: Ah, I get it. Sorry. |
| 14:16.05 | aixkilledme | pharm: np |
| 14:16.06 | torc | oh, i see. looks like i stumbled upon that bug. |
| 14:16.21 | pharm | aixkilledme: Looks like you'll have to support a 1.11 deb yourself then, or tell the cvs admin that... |
| 14:16.23 | foobared | what happened with the 2.4.30? |
| 14:16.39 | valdyn | foobared: how should we know? |
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| 14:16.47 | Yoninux | ...i have troubles with update and version (php/sql) is it possible for you to check with me my sources.list |
| 14:16.49 | torc | foobared: looks like its not there yet :) |
| 14:16.54 | aixkilledme | I ll just wear my BOFH cap and tell him, then lart if needed |
| 14:17.02 | dexter_ | Yoninux: It's enough with one time |
| 14:17.03 | dexter_ | stupid |
| 14:17.13 | dexter_ | If anyone want and can they'll answer |
| 14:17.14 | Yoninux | blind |
| 14:17.15 | torc | oo, security updates are working for sarge, eh? |
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| 14:17.48 | Yoninux | understood your sister walk on your face dexter ! |
| 14:17.52 | valdyn | torc: sarge is not even frozen yet, it still gets at least some "real" updates |
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| 14:17.58 | Yoninux | :-D |
| 14:18.20 | dexter_ | Yoninux: I don't have a sister. |
| 14:18.26 | dexter_ | and no. I don't have a brother |
| 14:18.31 | foobared | torc: aha, but what about /msg dpkg kernel then? |
| 14:18.35 | Yoninux | smart guy ! |
| 14:18.38 | steam | hello folks, i installed openldap from apt-get and entered a password in the debconf thing. anyhow i cannot ldap-add anything, error is "user not found: no secret in database". anyone up for a help? thanks |
| 14:19.19 | torc | foobared: dont see any 2.4.30 on ftp.kernel.org |
| 14:19.19 | dexter_ | Yoninux: Btw. Learn english. I don't understand many of your sentences (really). How often to people WALK on others faces? |
| 14:19.22 | dexter_ | Geesh |
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| 14:19.29 | dexter_ | s/to/do |
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| 14:19.50 | torc | foobared: looks like some cms fuzz, like gcc.gnu.org has ;) |
| 14:19.55 | Yoninux | well dexter, if you are alone in this world as i'm, may be you can help me just by checking my sources.list (and you're right english is not my mothertongue) |
| 14:19.59 | xam | dexter: well ... |
| 14:20.02 | greycat | torc: finger @kernel.org shows it, though |
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| 14:20.09 | a | any one have experence on installing debian on hp dx6100 on sata hard disk?? |
| 14:20.09 | foobared | torc: nighter do I, but their web page updated, and shows it as latest :( |
| 14:20.13 | aixkilledme | steam: make sure you use the whole binddn to authenticate , and not just "admin" |
| 14:20.16 | dexter_ | Yoninux: Make me? |
| 14:20.23 | dexter_ | I've got more important stuff to do |
| 14:20.46 | greycat | Yoninux: run apt-setup, or /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 14:20.46 | dexter_ | Well.. More important than helping someone who walks on others faces |
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| 14:20.48 | xam | dexter: don't lie. If you were really busy you wouldn't irc! |
| 14:21.01 | Yoninux | please dexter, a genius like you with a so BIIGggg brain will certainly be kind enought to help me with my sources.list ?? |
| 14:21.04 | dexter_ | xam: And how do you know i don't need irc for what i'm oing? |
| 14:21.09 | dexter_ | doing* |
| 14:21.11 | Yoninux | rotf |
| 14:21.12 | aixkilledme | !sing monday |
| 14:21.12 | dpkg | And school's out early and soon we'll be learning / The lesson today is how to die |
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| 14:21.43 | xam | dexter: haha, irc as requirement for work? |
| 14:21.50 | dexter_ | I never said i was working? |
| 14:21.55 | dexter_ | I just said i had more important things to do |
| 14:21.59 | torc | btw, i have at.debian.org as my main mirror, icmp ping is nice, but the downloads do lock up frequently. what could be the cause - server load? |
| 14:22.15 | locsmif | I heard several Debian developers were bought by ubuntu...does this have any severe ramifications for Debian development? |
| 14:22.17 | xam | dexter: well, there is always /ignore ... |
| 14:22.20 | sharth | torc: you're network being crap. |
| 14:22.27 | dexter_ | xam: Get to the point |
| 14:22.45 | xam | dexter: if he distracts you, just /ignore him |
| 14:22.46 | locsmif | torc, fsck |
| 14:22.48 | dexter_ | So i should ignore everyone i don't feel like helping? |
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| 14:22.58 | dexter_ | That would be like /ignore *!*@* |
| 14:23.03 | valdyn | locsmif: several debian developers _"founded"_ ubuntu |
| 14:23.05 | xam | dexter: bingo |
| 14:23.06 | torc | sharth: if i use just plain wget it does work fine. |
| 14:23.27 | didi | so my friends and you all good people here as dexter is terribly busy and he can't help me, may be someone will kindly spend 2 minutes of his worthy time to help a poor debian numb like me who speak a bad engish ? |
| 14:23.35 | dexter_ | xam: Well. You can keep doing that (Btw. You haven't ignored me. And you aren't helping me) |
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| 14:24.12 | steam | aixkilledme: i think i am, it is actually asking me two passwords one ldap and one seems to be sasl |
| 14:24.16 | jharrisonwk | ipod minis work with linux? |
| 14:24.17 | xam | dexter: I said /ignore those who *distract* you, not everybody |
| 14:24.40 | valdyn | locsmif: and theyre still debian devs, so in a way ubuntu enables debian devs to get paid for their work on debian, which *may* help debian |
| 14:24.46 | steam | aixkilledme: when i enter something on the first i dont even get to the second, i enter nothing i get the second prompt and there i fail to enter the right password obviously |
| 14:25.01 | locsmif | valdyn, oh ;) well I heard some bad news and I was hoping to hear "everything's alright, Debian is not going to be impaired by this." Hmmm ok that answer cheers me up. |
| 14:25.36 | aixkilledme | !info cvs woody |
| 14:25.46 | dpkg | cvs: (Concurrent Versions System), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.11.1p1debian-9woody7 (woody), Packaged size: 1061 kB, Installed size: 2568 kB |
| 14:26.14 | aixkilledme | when will debian stop supporting woody? once sarge is released? |
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| 14:26.28 | valdyn | locsmif: as it is now, ubuntu could not do much w/o debian, they do only maintain and support ~1000 or less packages, rest in ubuntu is plain recompiled debian packages ( 14k packages ) |
| 14:26.31 | simonrvn | no, for a while after |
| 14:26.33 | didi | ... guys when they told me the debian channel was not very newbee friendy... i should have beleive them. |
| 14:26.38 | didi | have a nice day |
| 14:26.39 | aixkilledme | simonrvn: define a while :) |
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| 14:26.46 | aixkilledme | well quantify at least |
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| 14:26.52 | valdyn | locsmif: in my humble opinion ) |
| 14:26.54 | aixkilledme | like 1 2 years? |
| 14:26.54 | simonrvn | 6-12 months |
| 14:26.57 | aixkilledme | ok |
| 14:26.58 | aixkilledme | thanks |
| 14:28.38 | valdyn | oh what a retard |
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| 14:28.59 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 14:30.24 | simonrvn | later |
| 14:30.31 | paulswm | later simonrvn |
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| 14:31.31 | a | ide2: unexpected interrupt, status=0xd0, count=xxx, what you can understand from that??? |
| 14:31.59 | sharth | something got unexpectedly interrupted. |
| 14:31.59 | polok | how do I edit a user's details? (as in add a name/office for an already existing user) |
| 14:32.07 | bbrazil | a: are there a lot of them? is that a hard drive or a cd rom? |
| 14:32.30 | a | how to figure what that thing?? |
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| 14:32.51 | asg | polok: chfn, vi /etc/passwd |
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| 14:32.52 | a | it come every 2, 3 secound |
| 14:32.54 | saabin | hello |
| 14:33.03 | valdyn | polok: usermod |
| 14:33.09 | paulswm | a: anything else, like clicking sounds from the HD, system hangs, DMA bus reset or DMA disabled messges? |
| 14:33.21 | saabin | I need some help with some shell script /bin/sh : " eval "cat '$tmp_file' > /tmp/myfile.txt" or simply cat $tmp_file > /tmp/myfile.txt " what am I doing wrong? |
| 14:33.24 | greycat | a: what are you doing when it occurs? |
| 14:33.29 | a | nothing else |
| 14:33.29 | asg | saabin: try #bash |
| 14:33.35 | ass_with_ears | saabin: /join #bash |
| 14:33.48 | saabin | asg no I need in /bin/sh . can you help? |
| 14:33.51 | greycat | saabin: cat "$tmp_file" > /tmp/myfile.txt |
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| 14:33.53 | bbrazil | a: what does /var/log/kern.log say ide2 is? |
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| 14:34.00 | greycat | saabin: and yes, #bash is appropriate for plain /bin/sh |
| 14:34.11 | a | bty , i just install the system on hp dx6100 , with sata harddrive |
| 14:34.17 | valdyn | a: means hardware or driver problem |
| 14:34.27 | ass_with_ears | saabin: on debian, /bin/sh is just a symlink, or a copy of /bin/bash |
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| 14:34.37 | chris_d | Good morning. I cannot seem to find my wireless adaptor. I have a Cisco Aironet. lsmod shows the drivers are loaded, but iwconfig shows no interfaces with wireless connections. |
| 14:34.58 | greycat | ass_with_ears: unless you said yes to "install dash as /bin/sh" in sarge |
| 14:35.08 | paulswm | a: sounds like driver, you'd prolly have more messages and problems if it were the drive |
| 14:35.29 | SlayerXP | chris_d: check dmesg, make sure the card is really being picked up |
| 14:35.34 | ass_with_ears | greycat: which isn't such a common case, don't you agree? |
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| 14:35.37 | torc | hmm, now i really dont understand it... |
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| 14:35.53 | torc | i did an upgrade after changing 'testing' to 'sarge' in the sources.list :/ |
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| 14:36.13 | paulswm | torc: testing and sarge are the same thing |
| 14:36.15 | torc | but 'apt-get dist-upgrade' still wants do download a 45 MB upgrade with tons of packages. |
| 14:36.22 | a | any idea fo how to fix this |
| 14:36.32 | torc | err, i mean i did an 'apt-get update'... |
| 14:36.34 | valdyn | torc: changing those words should not have any immediate effect |
| 14:36.37 | paulswm | torc: and there was a big upgrade yesterday, lots of stuff |
| 14:36.46 | chris_d | SlayerXP: airo_cs: RequestConfiguration: Operation succeeded. |
| 14:36.46 | valdyn | torc: whats wrong with it? |
| 14:37.04 | chris_d | SlayerXP: But: airo: MAC could not be enabled. |
| 14:37.08 | torc | valdyn: i have an ordinary sarge system. |
| 14:37.15 | torc | no fancy packeges, just plain apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade stuff. |
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| 14:37.23 | torc | installed if from the rc2 netinst iso. |
| 14:37.24 | valdyn | torc: sarge gets new packages _daily_ |
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| 14:37.28 | torc | i know. |
| 14:37.35 | valdyn | torc: err, i mean _updated_ packages, not entirely new ones |
| 14:37.36 | torc | and i try to update it daily. |
| 14:37.36 | mool | Hi, I've got a problem where if I ping any address the response is from the same machine IP I'm pinging from. [From 192.168.0.66 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable] instead of host does not exist. What does this mean? |
| 14:37.41 | paulswm | torc: there's nothing broken, sometimes upgrades are big if large packages like X or browser ones are changed |
| 14:37.47 | greycat | rc2 is months old. |
| 14:38.02 | torc | but. now it wants to upgrade by 3.3.5 gcc to 3.4.3, which is from sid i think. |
| 14:38.06 | torc | greycat: i have it upgraded. |
| 14:38.07 | chris_d | mool: Sounds like a default route problem. |
| 14:38.10 | valdyn | torc: no it doesnt |
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| 14:38.21 | greycat | torc: you're mistaken about *something*. |
| 14:38.22 | ass_with_ears | !lart openssl team for releases which don't 'make install' properly on all platforms |
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| 14:38.30 | valdyn | torc: thats not an upgrade, thats entirely different packages |
| 14:38.31 | greycat | e.g. you said gcc when you meant libgcc1 or ... god knows what. |
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| 14:38.38 | mwilson | mool: That's not a response from the same machine, that's the machine telling you that it can't send the packet. |
| 14:39.00 | polok | asg: thanks :) |
| 14:39.05 | polok | valdyn: thanks :) |
| 14:39.07 | asg | polok: you're welcome |
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| 14:39.20 | mool | mwilson: OK thanks |
| 14:39.21 | torc | valdyn: if there was a big update, then those packages should be 3.3.5-5 now :/ |
| 14:39.31 | mool | chris_d: I'll look at the routing, thanks |
| 14:39.46 | torc | valdyn: so, looks like changing testing to sarge works for me. just another updates for the gcc-3.3 line. |
| 14:39.52 | paulswm | torc: gcc is 3.3.5-8 in sarge, libgcc1 is 3.4.3-12 |
| 14:39.56 | torc | valdyn: sorry for my attention :) |
| 14:40.22 | torc | paulswm: oic. maybe that. |
| 14:40.44 | paulswm | torc: changing testing to sarge actually had no effect. When sarge becomes stable it will, though, becuase you'll be tracking sarge and not testing |
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| 14:41.37 | torc | paulswm: yeah, i was thinking about that, thought i missed sarge going stable and was going to upgrade to the next 'testing' now :) |
| 14:41.44 | torc | paulswm: so it was false alarm, sorry. |
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| 14:42.17 | paulswm | torc: np, and yesterday's upgrade to sarge was big |
| 14:42.18 | a | do i need spical driver for sata harddisk |
| 14:42.29 | RichiH | a: you need a current kernel |
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| 14:42.50 | ass_with_ears | hi thingfish |
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| 14:43.17 | a | what you mean by current kernel ?? |
| 14:43.30 | valdyn | !d-i a |
| 14:43.31 | dpkg | a, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 14:43.34 | greycat | he means "new" |
| 14:43.54 | valdyn | a: ^^^^ that installer should be "current" enough |
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| 14:44.11 | alfatau | hi, any snmp user? i need help to make a bash script which intercepts a trap sent by snmpd when disk space ends. |
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| 14:44.17 | _joey | Nosf3ratu have you used rcconf yourself ? |
| 14:44.47 | locsmif | alfatau, maybe that is a Q for #bash |
| 14:44.57 | locsmif | it's a real good channel. |
| 14:45.09 | _joey | update-rc.d will remove symlinks from some level and add to others, what if I don't want to use the service at all? |
| 14:45.15 | thingfish | Hi, ass_with_ears, whoever you are. |
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| 14:45.39 | valdyn | _joey: then remove the package |
| 14:45.57 | alfatau | locsmif: i asked in #bash but noone who can help me :( |
| 14:46.16 | brusso | BAAA |
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| 14:47.02 | locsmif | alfatau, bash can hardly intercept 'traps'. It can trap signals sent to the bash process that interpretes the script though. |
| 14:47.18 | locsmif | s/bash/bash scripts/ |
| 14:47.45 | greycat | alfatau: maybe because we don't know snmp/. |
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| 14:47.48 | _joey | remove the package? |
| 14:47.50 | bbls | hello |
| 14:47.55 | locsmif | it depends on the daemon and if it has a feauture to run a script on occurrence of a certain 'event' |
| 14:47.56 | bbls | is packages.debian.org down? |
| 14:48.02 | _joey | I need the package which I want to start when I need it |
| 14:48.05 | _joey | not during the startup |
| 14:48.06 | ass_with_ears | bbls: /topic |
| 14:48.11 | greycat | alfatau: why don't you show us the *output* of the snmp command you're using, and then tell us what you want bash to *do* with that output? |
| 14:48.16 | ass_with_ears | !topicsmite bbls |
| 14:48.17 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon bbls. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 14:48.23 | valdyn | _joey: then removing the symlinks is fine |
| 14:48.30 | _joey | heck , I'd just rename the symlinks in rc directories |
| 14:48.35 | _joey | bugger this script |
| 14:48.43 | valdyn | _joey: thats sound like a retarded idea |
| 14:48.53 | _joey | you are retard yoruself |
| 14:48.59 | ass_with_ears | hah |
| 14:49.08 | _joey | how is swapping S with s retarted you sill man? |
| 14:49.10 | greycat | _joey: removing the symlink often makes more sense, unless you need to "remember" where it as. |
| 14:49.14 | greycat | was* |
| 14:49.32 | alfatau | greycat: i want simply to print it to the screen. but i don't know how to intercept traps |
| 14:49.40 | greycat | _joey: I prefer "disbaled.S99foo" because the 's' vs. 'S' is hard to distinguish, and GNU ls may not sort them the way you expect. |
| 14:50.06 | greycat | alfatau: what the HELL is a "trap"? and what does "intercept" mean to you? what does any of this have to do with SNMP? or bash? |
| 14:50.39 | bbls | ass_with_ears there is nothing in topic about this |
| 14:50.53 | Darien | bbls: you really need to learn to read |
| 14:51.11 | ass_with_ears | pacakges and people are on gluck |
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| 14:51.26 | bbls | ah, got it now |
| 14:51.34 | greycat | packages.debian.org has address 192.25.206.10 |
| 14:51.38 | greycat | gluck.debian.org has address 192.25.206.10 |
| 14:51.42 | bbls | ah |
| 14:51.43 | bbls | ok |
| 14:51.51 | bbls | what FS do they use anyway? |
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| 14:52.11 | ass_with_ears | bbls: vfat |
| 14:52.23 | bbls | ah? is that true? |
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| 14:52.37 | ass_with_ears | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 14:52.41 | doublehp | my internet connection is a DHCP on eth1 ; my local net is on eth0; I use the script rc.firewall.2.4.stronger for FW+NAT .... once the connection changes IP, will the script let the DHCP request go out of eth1 ??? |
| 14:53.32 | asg | ass_with_ears: you can minimze such things by lowering the keyboard repeat rate with /sbin/kbrate |
| 14:53.40 | asg | s/kb/kbd/ |
| 14:53.53 | mwilson | doublehp: You seem to be a little confused. |
| 14:54.26 | mwilson | doublehp: The IP doesn't change until AFTER the box makes the request. |
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| 14:54.43 | doublehp | mwilson: that scriipt is quiet violent ... am it could potentially block all ICMP outgoing requests after changing IP ... |
| 14:54.51 | ass_with_ears | asg: I m sorry for the noise, but I m getting really upset by this AIX box I ve been fighting with all day long, specificaly by its slowness |
| 14:55.03 | doublehp | mwilson: the IP changes when my provider decides it is too old ( once a day ) |
| 14:55.04 | mwilson | doublehp: Then it's a good thing that DHCP isn't ICMP, huh? |
| 14:55.10 | asg | ass_with_ears: ;) |
| 14:55.26 | dexter_ | doublehp: But you won't get a new ip untill your computer requests one. Silly. |
| 14:55.45 | doublehp | dexter_: frenche providers are different from you are used to ... |
| 14:55.52 | dexter_ | eh. okay? |
| 14:56.12 | dexter_ | They hack your box and restart the network interfaces? |
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| 14:56.56 | mwilson | doublehp: The *only* way your IP can change is at renewal time. |
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| 14:57.26 | cbr | how can i install new locales @ debian? |
| 14:57.34 | caphuso | cbr: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:57.45 | mwilson | doublehp: Your box sends a renewal request for IP (A), the DHCPd comes back and says "no, you can' t have that one, I offer you this one" and it changes. |
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| 14:58.12 | alfatau | greycat: be quiet please, i'm not a guru! a trap is an message sent by snmpd agent to a manager to alert about an exception. In that case the exception could be the free disk. snmp is "simple network managment protocol" and it's userd by an agent containing a database with all informations (cross platform) about the network entity, and by a manager which gets informations about network entity and receives alerts about troubles on that entity. It's |
| 14:58.12 | alfatau | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.21 | SilverWolf | Gnome still not packaged :/ |
| 14:58.21 | _joey | if i want ti install kdm , do i need to remove xdn ir remove ut frin run level ? |
| 14:58.32 | SilverWolf | I really need to change distribution... :/ |
| 14:58.32 | mwilson | doublehp: If your iptables script does things based on your external IP, then you need to detect that the IP has changed. |
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| 14:58.47 | mwilson | SilverWolf: Please do. |
| 14:58.59 | mwilson | SilverWolf: As soon as possible. |
| 14:59.06 | caphuso | _joey: no. and at least try to get the hang of spelling |
| 14:59.14 | cbr | thanks caphuso |
| 14:59.14 | greycat | alfatau: we know what SNMP *is*. What we don't know is the syntax of the snmp command you use to *get* the information, or the format of the *output* it produces. Try reading the man pages or something. |
| 14:59.19 | cbr | that did the trick |
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| 14:59.39 | greycat | alfatau: if you tell us "command X produces output Y, but I want to convert it into format Z" then #bash can help. |
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| 14:59.49 | _joey | caphuso I'd leave that to you to correct it |
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| 15:01.54 | cbr | can i tell debian NOT TO load certain modules i dont need? |
| 15:01.56 | doublehp | mwilson: how ? |
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| 15:02.00 | cbr | e.g. scsi etc |
| 15:02.17 | doublehp | mwilson: dhclient does not notify changes |
| 15:03.01 | Mindship-01 | Hello all. Is it only on my system or is packages.debian.org off-line? (tried two connections already; both timed out after a minute - I'm on 1600/512) |
| 15:03.11 | ass_with_ears | Mindship-01: /topic |
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| 15:03.45 | xzit | hello |
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| 15:03.53 | streuner | cbr: they prolly compilied into your kernel |
| 15:04.05 | cbr | no.. |
| 15:04.09 | cbr | they are loaded as modules |
| 15:04.10 | cbr | during boot |
| 15:04.12 | drac | is this normal to get 'df: `/dev/.static/dev': Permission denied' when you do 'df -h' as a normal user? |
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| 15:04.19 | drac | udev, 2.6 |
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| 15:04.26 | streuner | cbr: edit /etc/modules unless you use discover... |
| 15:04.35 | ass_with_ears | !win me |
| 15:04.36 | dpkg | Congratulations, ass_with_ears! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 15:04.38 | tosh| | any RSS feedable tickers arround that are any good? |
| 15:04.40 | cbr | how do i know if i use discover? |
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| 15:04.46 | xzit | get this output when starting volume control: Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found! |
| 15:04.51 | streuner | cbr: dpkg -l discover? |
| 15:04.57 | xzit | ??? im using Pegasos2. |
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| 15:05.09 | cbr | i have discover1 |
| 15:05.15 | cbr | 1.7.7 |
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| 15:05.40 | Crash_Override_ | sorry to interrupt but do you know any channel about debian+notebooks :) |
| 15:05.42 | streuner | cbr: ok, just remove it and make sure the module for your NIC is loaded |
| 15:05.49 | Crash_Override_ | i'm new here |
| 15:05.51 | alfatau | greycat: ok, i'm sorry, but i don't know how to get the output Y so i also can't intercept it and convert to Z. that was the help i needed, because i'm not a native speaker and i wasn't able to find the solution reading man pages. this why i tried asking here. if anyone knows how to work with snmp, i'll go to buy a translated book or something other. however thank you. |
| 15:05.59 | cbr | streuner: why remove it? |
| 15:06.02 | kuene | does somebody know why people.debian.org is down? |
| 15:06.04 | streuner | cbr: _OR_ edit the config of discover |
| 15:06.19 | dvs | kuene: /topic? |
| 15:06.22 | streuner | cbr: discover is the hardward-detection of debian |
| 15:06.26 | kuene | oh |
| 15:07.02 | streuner | cbr: it changes some configs as well to make sure the system load the right modules... |
| 15:07.27 | cbr | i can disable scsi etc @ /etc/discover.conf |
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| 15:09.37 | why-oh-why | lol |
| 15:10.26 | streuner | cbr: that wouldn't be a good idea |
| 15:10.33 | cbr | why not? |
| 15:11.00 | resiak | Crash_Override_: I don't know of any channel, but a lot of people here use Debian on notebooks. Why not ask your question(s) here? |
| 15:11.01 | streuner | cbr: because if you not have any SCSI devices why should discover edit it then? |
| 15:11.11 | cbr | i dont know |
| 15:11.14 | streuner | s/edit/edited/ |
| 15:11.15 | cbr | but it loads the scsi driver |
| 15:11.22 | cbr | and i KNOW i dont have any scsi devices |
| 15:11.25 | cbr | so i dont need it |
| 15:11.43 | cbr | ah |
| 15:11.48 | cbr | it's some scsi_mod |
| 15:11.50 | cbr | not scsi |
| 15:12.01 | Crash_Override_ | resiak, ok :) |
| 15:12.06 | streuner | cbr: /join #flood |
| 15:12.23 | Crash_Override_ | well, i have asus l300d and sis chipset |
| 15:12.35 | Crash_Override_ | it's almost brand new |
| 15:12.35 | resiak | Crash_Override_: Please ask on one line, not on 20. |
| 15:12.53 | treestone | cbr: Could be that you have a CD ROM using the scsi emulation layer (ide_scsi) |
| 15:13.11 | treestone | Er, CD writer |
| 15:13.22 | Crash_Override_ | ok :) the hard drive gives me a lot of timeouts and it resets but there is no data loss. |
| 15:13.26 | cbr | treestone: the 2.6 kernel shouldnt need that |
| 15:13.37 | treestone | cbr: But it all depends on how you've set it up. |
| 15:14.07 | resiak | Crash_Override_: That's not really a question. :) |
| 15:14.12 | treestone | cbr: 'lsmod' should tell you the story anyway. |
| 15:14.17 | valdyn | cbr: look at /etc/modules |
| 15:14.17 | Crash_Override_ | i was searching in the net and there are a lot of people with the same error, i hope that there is someone here with the same model that could give me his .config... |
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| 15:14.54 | Crash_Override_ | to try because i use manually compiled kernel... |
| 15:15.04 | resiak | Crash_Override_: And this is why you should have asked that all on one line, since now people have to look at the preceeding four or so lines intermixed with other chatter to see what "the same model" and "the same error" mean. |
| 15:15.17 | resiak | Crash_Override_: Have you tried using a Debian kernel-image? |
| 15:16.11 | Crash_Override_ | resiak, i've used it for 30 minuts until the new kernel compiled :) then purget it |
| 15:16.30 | dvs | Crash_Override_: Why didn't you even try the Debian kernel? |
| 15:16.31 | resiak | Crash_Override_: Why the hell did you do that? Did you get the error with the stock kernel? |
| 15:16.52 | cbr | i also dont have a floppy drive, so i'll disable that |
| 15:17.19 | streuner | cbr: /msg me the output again |
| 15:17.46 | drac | i'd like to know default and correct permission for /dev/.static, using 2.6, udev and sarge. drwx------ 3 root root now, and i'm getting permission denied warning when I 'df -h' for example. :\ |
| 15:17.59 | Crash_Override_ | resiak, i forgot - there was the same error even when installing form the netinstall cd when using the origianl kernel from the cd |
| 15:18.28 | resiak | Crash_Override_: Still, why did you abandon the stock kernel even though your self-rolled one didn't make a difference? |
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| 15:19.04 | resiak | Crash_Override_: And why do you think that a different .config would fix it? Is that what these people around the net have said? If so, can't you get their .config s? |
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| 15:19.25 | kon_ | hello, does anybody know of an install floppy/CD image, which has got support for foxconn ethernet interface? |
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| 15:19.37 | _joey | www4.tpg.com.au/alexgne/card4.png <-- my new desktop |
| 15:19.47 | _joey | and kdm rules:) |
| 15:19.47 | directhex|work | kon_, erm... foxconn make sockets, i've never seen a foxcon controller |
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| 15:20.10 | Crash_Override_ | resiak, some of them said that when the hdparm the harddrive to udma2 it works for them - but not for men and it was my last hope... |
| 15:20.13 | why-oh-why | nice handy world clock u got there... |
| 15:20.22 | Crash_Override_ | i |
| 15:20.59 | kon_ | directhex|work: ok thanks |
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| 15:21.04 | Crash_Override_ | i'll play with the original kernel and let's hope that there will be some result... |
| 15:21.14 | directhex|work | kon_, how recent is the motherboard? |
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| 15:22.20 | kon_ | directhex|work: well, my mate has got some problem with windows and he tries to install debian now. he just told me he got this "foxconn" controller, i actually have no idea what exactly it is. |
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| 15:23.29 | directhex|work | kon_, it's not foxconn. i suspect he's just reading the word "foxconn" stampted on the top of the ehternet port. |
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| 15:24.06 | kon_ | yeah i also thought that, now that you told me there are no foxconn controllers |
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| 15:24.18 | directhex|work | kon_, cannot advise on anything without knowing the age of the motherboard, i suspect it's too new for woody and he has a woody cd |
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| 15:24.28 | kon_ | i will ask him again, to make a rescue disc an run lspci |
| 15:24.38 | kon_ | directhex|work: he actually hasnt got any discs yet |
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| 15:25.12 | directhex|work | kon_, or just make him download a sarge install cd, it'll support most anything |
| 15:25.19 | dreuff | Hi there, is someone using a fedora 3 ? |
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| 15:25.41 | streuner | dreuff: you have prolly more luck in #fedore |
| 15:25.44 | streuner | fedora |
| 15:25.51 | serialkiller | hi all! |
| 15:26.02 | dreuff | thanks |
| 15:26.16 | kon_ | directhex|work: i also gave him that advice, but unfortunately he doesnt own a cd recorder |
| 15:26.36 | directhex|work | kon_, sarge install floppies? |
| 15:26.58 | kon_ | directhex|work: do they have exactly the same drivers? |
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| 15:27.41 | serialkiller | i have compaq prosignia 300 scsi box, i want to install linux on. My only prob is this. How do i get the scsi drives online to install the partitions. Is there a module i need to load before that? i have looked on google and cant seem to find a clear answer |
| 15:27.46 | directhex|work | kon_, i have absolutely NO idea. |
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| 15:28.48 | kon_ | directhex|work: anyway, thanks for the hints, we will try with the floppies, if that will not help i'll tell him to get a cd burner =) |
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| 15:29.18 | directhex|work | !d-i kon_ |
| 15:29.19 | dpkg | kon_, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:29.56 | kon_ | thanks |
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| 15:33.28 | serialkiller | so anyone know how to bring scsi drives online so i can install debian? |
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| 15:34.33 | dvs | serialkiller: Try the sarge installer. It might detect your scsi card automatically. |
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| 15:35.49 | serialkiller | col bud |
| 15:36.00 | serialkiller | ok |
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| 15:41.08 | candc540 | hello |
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| 15:41.23 | candc540 | if i added a file to the init.d and made an alias to it in rc5.d |
| 15:41.25 | candc540 | why isn't it running? |
| 15:41.31 | greycat | probably because you aren't in run level 5 |
| 15:41.34 | candc540 | is there something i have to run to update the rc5.d |
| 15:41.41 | zuralin | default in debian is runlevel 2 |
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| 15:41.43 | greycat | or your "alias" (symlink, I hope) doesn't start with an S |
| 15:41.45 | candc540 | hahaha |
| 15:41.45 | dvs | candc540: default run level of Debian is 2 |
| 15:41.46 | candc540 | ok |
| 15:41.47 | candc540 | duh |
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| 15:42.06 | candc540 | sorry was talking to some people and they are all running fc3 (bleh) |
| 15:42.28 | dvs | !smite fedora |
| 15:42.37 | directhex|work | !dachs dvs |
| 15:42.38 | dpkg | dvs: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 15:42.43 | candc540 | well thanks for the help everyone |
| 15:42.52 | candc540 | later |
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| 15:43.55 | cafard | hi there |
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| 15:44.59 | cafard | i have a weird problem between gnome and cups. when trying to print from a gnome application with cups running, the dialog does not appear, and the application freezes. anyone familiar with that? |
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| 15:45.50 | greycat | ARRGH!!! What demon from the coldest depths of the abyss came up with Microsoft Outlook? |
| 15:46.08 | petemc | that would be the beast |
| 15:46.19 | dvs | Uh Microsoft? |
| 15:46.26 | asuffield | ah, greycat has encountered an unrepentent outlook user |
| 15:46.34 | Bac9 | greycat: do you really want to know an answer to that question? |
| 15:46.35 | cafard | Belzebill? |
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| 15:46.43 | greycat | asuffield: worse. I *am* an outlook user. By force. |
| 15:46.50 | dvs | Ouch~ |
| 15:47.03 | greycat | asuffield: but I have Outlook configured to forward all my e-mail to my Unix account. Right? Right? BUT IT DOESN'T FORWARD ALL OF IT! |
| 15:47.03 | ass_with_ears | greycat: feel lucky, you could be using notes |
| 15:47.08 | asuffield | have you considered suicide? |
| 15:47.09 | greycat | ass_with_ears: done that. |
| 15:47.15 | Bac9 | greycat: can't you install something else? or maybe use webmail interface? |
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| 15:47.49 | toresbe | me too |
| 15:47.58 | toresbe | I wish I could read them |
| 15:48.00 | Bac9 | greycat: configure it on the server to autoforward, I've seen it accessable through webmail interface in many places |
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| 15:48.33 | greycat | Bac9: I *do* have it configured to auto-forward. But I have two^H^H^HTHREE complaints with it now. |
| 15:48.56 | greycat | 1) It does not forward e-mail addresses. Only first and last name of the person. I have to guess what the e-mail address is. |
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| 15:49.10 | Bac9 | greycat: you said you had outlook configured, can you go over outlooks head and configure it at the server? |
| 15:49.15 | greycat | 2) If I use the *other* type of forwarding, it sends e-mail addresses in the headers, but it omits the Cc: header line altogether, so I have to guess who else got it. |
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| 15:49.28 | ass_with_ears | heh |
| 15:49.40 | greycat | 3) It apparently does not forward any e-mail with a "paper clip icon" (attachment?) next to it. |
| 15:49.55 | greycat | Bac9: I have no access to the server |
| 15:50.04 | Bac9 | greycat: if it all worked perfectlythen people might actually try to use other apps and Microsoft wouldn't like that :-) |
| 15:50.21 | FieldySnuts | I'm having an odd problem with vim. I go to edit a file, i go to the line I want to edit, i hit end to go to the end of the line. The cursor doesn't move, it flashes, then capitalizes the letter that was under it. I hadn't entered insert or append mode yet. no other system does this, any ideas? |
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| 15:50.34 | Bac9 | greycat: what does the server use? pop, imap?? |
| 15:50.40 | greycat | or maybe it's because To: and Cc: were both blank. maybe that's why it didn't forward this message. |
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| 15:50.47 | greycat | Bac9: surely you jest. |
| 15:50.53 | Bac9 | greycat: if you can't set forward in it try at least hooking into it directly |
| 15:50.56 | bbrazil | FieldySnuts: '$' |
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| 15:51.05 | ass_with_ears | heh |
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| 15:51.21 | bbrazil | FieldySnuts: end produces different stuff on different terminals |
| 15:51.24 | poh | I keep getting a 404 when I try to apt-get install xprint. and when I did an apt-spy -f xprint, I get a bunch of 404s |
| 15:51.32 | greycat | poh: apt-get update |
| 15:51.37 | Bac9 | FieldySnuts: you have to set up vim to be actually smart |
| 15:51.38 | greycat | poh: or apt-setup |
| 15:51.43 | dvs | FieldySnuts: I thought "E" adds to the end of a line |
| 15:51.52 | Gathond | FieldySnuts: my quess is home/end and friends does not work correctly, the exact same happens if I ssh to my linux machine from the universities solaris servers |
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| 15:52.18 | Bac9 | FieldySnuts: set esckeys |
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| 15:52.36 | poh | greycat: thanks, I thought apt-spy wouldn't be effected by update |
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| 15:52.46 | FieldySnuts | welp i'm on a linux system. it works fine here. i ssh to system A, works fine. I ssh to system B which is as close to system A as I could get it, and it does it to me. |
| 15:52.49 | FieldySnuts | same keyboard etc |
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| 15:54.05 | candc540 | ok made a sym link in rc2.d and didn't start |
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| 15:54.38 | Bac9 | candc540: is it executable? |
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| 15:54.44 | candc540 | made it S90daemon where daemon is the name of the daemon i'm trying to start |
| 15:55.21 | Bac9 | candc540: name of the link doesn't really matter aside from first three characters |
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| 15:56.50 | humbolt | does anybody know whether kalyxo is offline or it has moved? |
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| 15:57.27 | candc540 | Bac9, should i just do a chmod a+x S90xxxxx |
| 15:57.59 | Bac9 | candc540: no you should do a changemod on the file the link points to |
| 15:58.02 | candc540 | Bac9, or does the file in /etc/init.d need to be the one that's executable |
| 15:58.11 | Bac9 | candc540: and make sure that file is actually correct too |
| 15:58.13 | candc540 | ok so the one in the init.d |
| 15:58.16 | greycat | candc540: 1) should be +x perms, 2) should begin with #!/bin/sh, 3) the symlink from rc2.d should begin with a CAPITAL S. |
| 15:58.26 | Bac9 | candc540: yes |
| 15:58.31 | candc540 | ok |
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| 15:59.17 | Bac9 | greycat: if you really want to confuse the issue, in the script make "stop" start the service and "start" stop the service :-) |
| 15:59.29 | candc540 | ok so chmod u+x /etc/init.d/blah |
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| 15:59.44 | Bac9 | candc540: that might help |
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| 16:00.03 | greycat | Bac9: and then make it 'Kxxx' to start? |
| 16:00.11 | Bac9 | candc540: ls -la /etc/init.d/ |
| 16:00.22 | Bac9 | greycat: yep :-) |
| 16:00.23 | ddads | does anybody know whether kalyxo is offline or it has moved? |
| 16:00.36 | asg | !kalyxo |
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| 16:01.22 | candc540 | ok it should be fine looks just like mysql above it now will try the restart |
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| 16:01.56 | liran | why debian isnt bleeding egde |
| 16:01.58 | liran | :( |
| 16:02.09 | Bac9 | liran: sid |
| 16:02.15 | dvs | liran: Because we're sane? |
| 16:02.21 | liran | sid>? |
| 16:02.27 | sml | bleeding edge means you will bleed. |
| 16:02.28 | liran | sid using bleeding egde system? |
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| 16:02.32 | dvs | liran: unstable |
| 16:02.33 | greycat | because we're anemic |
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| 16:02.36 | Bac9 | liran: bleeding edge including all the beeding edge bugs |
| 16:02.38 | ass_with_ears | hah |
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| 16:02.48 | liran | so what |
| 16:02.52 | liran | let the users decide |
| 16:02.59 | felipe_ | would you guys help me recording a ISO w/ cdrecord command? |
| 16:03.00 | dvs | liran: exactly |
| 16:03.03 | sml | there's always gentoy if you need the bells and whistles (and pains and tribulations) |
| 16:03.08 | felipe_ | I dunno the parameters to use |
| 16:03.19 | ass_with_ears | felipe_: man cdrecord |
| 16:03.25 | Bac9 | sml: and experimental :-) |
| 16:03.27 | ass_with_ears | felipe_: it's a good command to start with |
| 16:03.27 | asg | felipe_: look at the cd-writing howto, examples exist in there. |
| 16:03.27 | felipe_ | ow thx ass |
| 16:03.37 | streuner | felipe_: cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=12 fs=10 /foo.iso |
| 16:03.47 | dvs | fs? |
| 16:03.53 | felipe_ | cdrecord -v -pad speed=1 dev=0,0,0 src.iso |
| 16:03.58 | streuner | felipe_: cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=12 fs=10 driveropts=burnfree /foo.iso - is better |
| 16:04.00 | felipe_ | Im starting w/ this |
| 16:04.05 | greycat | FUCKERS. Outlook didn't forward *ANY* e-mail to me that doesn't have my name in the headers. Anything that went out to "Neurology Department" or blank (pure Bcc) didn't get forwarded to me. |
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| 16:04.44 | felipe_ | ok! I must mount the cd first right? |
| 16:04.50 | Bac9 | greycat: the paperclip just wants to be helpfull and filter out all the spam that was obviously meant for a bulk audience :-) |
| 16:04.51 | asg | felipe_: not to burn it, no |
| 16:04.55 | dvs | felipe_: no |
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| 16:05.09 | felipe_ | Ow...I couldnt run cdrecord -scanbus |
| 16:05.09 | ass_with_ears | !comfort greycat |
| 16:05.11 | dpkg | There, there, greycat. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:05.13 | greycat | wouldn't it be, like, *really hard* to mount a blank CD? |
| 16:05.26 | streuner | felipe_: 2.4.x kernel? |
| 16:05.29 | felipe_ | greycat LOL |
| 16:05.35 | felipe_ | streuner yes |
| 16:05.39 | Bac9 | greycat: some people try really really hard to mount :-) |
| 16:05.47 | streuner | felipe_: modprobe ide-scsi |
| 16:05.48 | felipe_ | streuner 2.4.27-2-k6 |
| 16:05.53 | asg | Bac9: short jockeys? |
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| 16:06.06 | Bac9 | asg: ??? |
| 16:06.16 | asg | Bac9: people who try really hard to mount |
| 16:06.29 | Bac9 | asg: am not familiar with " short jockeys" |
| 16:06.33 | crashbg | what was the force umount command? don't mean umount -f :) |
| 16:06.33 | nvz | Bac9: the paperclip? you mean the one in MS Office? |
| 16:06.36 | asg | Bac9: nevermind |
| 16:06.45 | Bac9 | nvz: yes the evil thing |
| 16:06.49 | Bac9 | asg: :-( |
| 16:06.51 | nvz | heh. |
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| 16:07.10 | greycat | crashbg: reboot |
| 16:07.14 | felipe_ | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver |
| 16:07.17 | nvz | this chatzilla firefox extension is way better windows client than xchat IMHO |
| 16:07.24 | greycat | !wikifaq felipe_ UseCdBurner |
| 16:07.25 | dpkg | felipe_: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseCdBurner or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 16:07.25 | felipe_ | The cd is not in |
| 16:07.34 | cbr | sid is the only usable debian version IMHO |
| 16:07.37 | greycat | felipe_: um. |
| 16:07.40 | pipeline | nvz: try xchat 1.x on windows |
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| 16:07.48 | crashbg | hehe greycat, there is another umount cmd when the mount is used by another ppl |
| 16:07.49 | Bac9 | nvz: problem is if you try to ignore it and not look at it you loose a lot of scrreen realestate as the darn thing takes up so much space |
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| 16:08.09 | greycat | crashbg: no. there is not. you MIGHT be thinking of "fuser" to TELL YOU WHAT PEOPLE ARE USING IT, but that is not "another umount". |
| 16:08.19 | streuner | felipe_: is udev or devfs installed? |
| 16:08.35 | greycat | streuner: well, if "the cd is not in", how did he expect it to work? |
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| 16:08.43 | felipe_ | streuner how to find it out? |
| 16:08.46 | nvz | Bac9: last I used MS Office (97 Professional) it was a separate componant, i.e. could be uninstalled separately |
| 16:08.47 | cm | hi, is there a debian mips channel bar #debian-mips.. it'[s a bit quiet |
| 16:08.52 | pipeline | nvz: http://emptythreats.no-ip.org:8080/xchat188.exe |
| 16:08.53 | streuner | greycat: cdrecord -scanbus? |
| 16:08.55 | felipe_ | streuner my guess is devfs |
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| 16:08.59 | crashbg | greycat, well that cmd killes other's connection so you can umount the drive, u'r right |
| 16:09.03 | Bac9 | nvz: now it's even more anoying and bigger |
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| 16:09.06 | dvs | felipe_: If you have a 2.4 kernel, you don't have udev |
| 16:09.06 | streuner | felipe_: dpkg -l devfs |
| 16:09.10 | crashbg | but what was it? |
| 16:09.21 | nvz | pipeline: The requested URL /xchat188.exe was not found on this server. |
| 16:09.30 | greycat | crashbg: man fuser |
| 16:09.31 | pipeline | nvz: http://emptythreats.no-ip.org:8080/~Administrator/xchat188.exe |
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| 16:09.33 | greycat | crashbg: man umount |
| 16:09.35 | greycat | crashbg: man lsof |
| 16:09.47 | felipe_ | hold |
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| 16:09.50 | greycat | crashbg: AND GET A GOD DAMNED DICTIONARY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE SO YOU CAN SPELL YOU'RE AND PEOPLE! |
| 16:09.57 | nvz | pipeline: why are you giving me a link to xchat anyhow? I dun like it :P |
| 16:10.13 | pipeline | nvz: xchat 1.x doesn't use GTK2, and hence sucks less on windows. |
| 16:10.21 | nvz | ah |
| 16:10.37 | lrn | what the fuck |
| 16:10.41 | streuner | pipeline: well, it has an certain advantage too, its still free ;-) |
| 16:10.45 | lrn | i just did apt-get remove mozilla-browser |
| 16:10.47 | lrn | and look |
| 16:10.47 | lrn | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/uduRkC60.html |
| 16:10.47 | nvz | well I got to help a girlfriend with a small car problem shortly, so I wont be on here long enough to be switching clients |
| 16:10.50 | lrn | why ?!?! |
| 16:10.58 | jar9000 | which command is useful to directly read Debian gzipped help? I never remember it... thx |
| 16:10.59 | pipeline | streuner: There are third party builds of XChat 2.x for win32 that are still free. |
| 16:11.07 | pipeline | jar9000: zcat <foo> | less |
| 16:11.11 | ass_with_ears | jar9000: zless zmore, zcat .. |
| 16:11.13 | streuner | pipeline: where can i find that? |
| 16:11.14 | dvs | jar9000: zless |
| 16:11.22 | pipeline | streuner: google |
| 16:11.27 | nvz | I got to climb under her ride, which doesnt make me feel too good.. I am not a grease monkey.. but I will be pretty greasy when its all said and done I am sure |
| 16:11.33 | streuner | pipeline: you have the URL handy? |
| 16:11.41 | pipeline | streuner: http://www.google.com/search?q=xchat+win32 |
| 16:12.07 | pipeline | streuner: It's the second f'n hit. |
| 16:12.07 | lrn | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/uduRkC60.html |
| 16:12.08 | Bac9 | nvz: that'll teach you to get girfriends with cars :-) |
| 16:12.08 | lrn | why? |
| 16:12.10 | lrn | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/uduRkC60.html |
| 16:12.20 | toresbe | lrn: first of all, don't repeat |
| 16:12.25 | streuner | pipeline: and they all without any limits? |
| 16:12.44 | pipeline | streuner: look, Xchat's creator didn't start hiding chunks of the source, he just stopped distributing win32 binaries. |
| 16:12.52 | pipeline | streuner: There's plenty of other people willing to build and host binaries. |
| 16:12.52 | toresbe | lrn: secondly, hmm, I think it's because the meta-package gnome depends on mozilla |
| 16:13.01 | Di``` | people....promise 378 is really incompatible with debian kernel 2.6 ? I mean the hardware RAID function |
| 16:13.53 | felipe_ | cd is on and no scanbus output |
| 16:14.27 | pyr3 | I've gotten X working but my mouse will only move vertically no matter which direction I move it in. |
| 16:14.53 | Bac9 | pyr3: wrong protocol set up? bad mouse? |
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| 16:15.14 | pyr3 | USB mouse, IMPS/2 |
| 16:15.34 | pyr3 | Shouldn't be anything wrong with it. Works in Windows and OSX |
| 16:16.08 | nvz | Bac9: heh, well shes the only girlfriend I have with a car.. and its not my responsibility to fix her car, I am just going to give it a shot anyhow. just needs a powersteering hose replaced, and she's got the part |
| 16:16.13 | dvs | o_O |
| 16:16.39 | felipe_ | cdrecord: Read-only file system. Cannot open '/dev/hdc'. Cannot open SCSI driver |
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| 16:16.49 | Bac9 | nvz: well then just stick with all the other girfriends that you have that don't have a car :-) |
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| 16:17.27 | felipe_ | greycat not working |
| 16:17.38 | greycat | !doesn't work |
| 16:17.39 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 16:17.41 | dvs | Oh greycat is working very hard! ;-) |
| 16:17.42 | nvz | Bac9: yeah well, she's the one who needs help.. just so happens to be with a car.. I can pick my friends, but I cant pick their problems |
| 16:18.11 | Bac9 | nvz: actually you can pick their problems that you wish to get involved in :-) |
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| 16:18.37 | Bac9 | nvz: I am just nitpicking at what you say |
| 16:18.46 | felipe_ | dvs thx |
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| 16:18.58 | greycat | 12:05 felipe_> streuner 2.4.27-2-k6 |
| 16:19.09 | greycat | felipe_: for 2.4.x kernels you must set up ide-scsi emulation as described in the FAQ |
| 16:19.15 | streuner | felipe_: ok, try that as kerneloption put in 'append="hdc=ide-scsi"' |
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| 16:19.23 | greycat | felipe_: if you have any SPECIFIC QUESTIONS about this process, ask them INTELLIGENTLY. |
| 16:19.26 | greycat | !smart questions |
| 16:19.26 | dpkg | Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with computer experts. |
| 16:19.34 | sml | god this cisco is going to get hit with a hammer in a minute |
| 16:19.38 | sml | a big heavy one. |
| 16:19.46 | felipe_ | greycat sorry for been stupid then |
| 16:19.48 | nvz | well, I was suppose to hang out with her the past 2 nights, and never happened. right now shes not working and needs help with something.. looks simple enough, I just have to get under the car for one part of it, to attache the host to the steering rack |
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| 16:20.10 | xelon | hi guys, my sound card is not working!! What can i do?? I |
| 16:20.11 | felipe_ | greycat dont be mad w/ me |
| 16:20.15 | Bac9 | nvz: :-) |
| 16:20.16 | xelon | I'm using GNOME |
| 16:20.17 | jaymzh | anyone know why packages.debian.org is down? (nothing in /topic...) |
| 16:20.26 | *** mode/#debian [+o greycat] by ChanServ |
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| 16:20.27 | ass_with_ears | jaymzh: packages is the same as gluck |
| 16:20.35 | ass_with_ears | jaymzh: and gluck is in /topic |
| 16:20.39 | jaymzh | ah |
| 16:20.39 | *** topic/#debian by greycat -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Sarge Base+Standard frozen; installer: /msg dpkg d-i | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | Java -> /msg dpkg java | Spambots? /umode +E; Ask for an op | No, gnome 2.10 and kde 3.4 are not packaged yet | d-i rc3 out! /msg dpkg d-i | gluck ({packages,people}.debian.org) down, no |
| 16:20.40 | jaymzh | thanks |
| 16:20.42 | felipe_ | streuner thx for the help folk....will google a bit on my own |
| 16:20.45 | greycat | damn. |
| 16:20.46 | ass_with_ears | thanks greycat |
| 16:20.50 | streuner | xelon: what have your DM with your sound to do? |
| 16:20.57 | jaymzh | all good, thanks! =) |
| 16:21.00 | streuner | felipe_: lilo? |
| 16:21.02 | jar9000 | Another thing: In init, when starting exim4 offline (without any network cable attached to computer), it freezes 30s. After two hours searching in google, solutions are: down interfaces, run it in background, etc. but no one focus on exim config. I have all used names in hosts file (it could be a DNS problem)... any idea? |
| 16:21.11 | *** topic/#debian by greycat -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | Java -> /msg dpkg java | Spambots? /umode +E; Ask for an op | No, gnome 2.10 and kde 3.4 are not packaged yet | Sarge d-i rc3 out! /msg dpkg d-i | gluck ({packages,people}.debian.org) down, now fscking |
| 16:21.34 | xelon | streuner: I can't understand!!! |
| 16:21.37 | *** mode/#debian [-o greycat] by greycat |
| 16:21.45 | felipe_ | streuner not lilo...grub...But I have recorded before so I guess the settings should be ok |
| 16:21.47 | streuner | xelon: anyway, just /msg dpkg sound |
| 16:22.10 | sml | people that block icmp want shooting. |
| 16:22.18 | streuner | felipe_: no idea how you put some kerneloptions into grub, but FAQ should mention it |
| 16:22.19 | nvz | my little brother is laughing hysterically at me for seemingly no reason |
| 16:22.22 | jaymzh | sml: agreed. I wrote a paper on it ;) |
| 16:22.37 | jaymzh | sml: http://www.phildev.net/mss/ |
| 16:22.44 | sml | jaymzh: =] |
| 16:22.50 | felipe_ | streuner dont you agree that it should be there already since I've recoderd like 3 months ago? |
| 16:22.59 | felipe_ | streuner just cant remember how |
| 16:23.01 | ass_with_ears | filtering all icmp is advertised by overpaid underbrained morons so called security experts |
| 16:23.17 | felipe_ | streuner I barely remember that speed was equal to 4 |
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| 16:23.22 | jaymzh | yes - but when I presented at LISA I had people arguing with me that that was the way to go |
| 16:23.46 | jaymzh | "you're pushing people to be insecure!" no... i'm pushing people to understand protocols they block |
| 16:23.47 | ass_with_ears | jaymzh: then they were morons |
| 16:23.50 | streuner | felipe_: just take a look at it, the kerneloptions have to be the same... (append="hdc=ide-scsi)... |
| 16:24.18 | felipe_ | streuner ok! will look it up |
| 16:24.33 | felipe_ | streuner thx for the help man |
| 16:24.37 | ass_with_ears | jaymzh: some ICMP traffic should be filtered tho, as you proly know |
| 16:24.40 | jaymzh | ass_with_ears: well, I know that, that's why I wrote the paper on PMTU black holes =). Though by the end a handful of people said they were adjusting their companies firewalls on their laptops, so tha twas cool |
| 16:24.44 | jaymzh | of course |
| 16:24.45 | jaymzh | most, in fact |
| 16:24.56 | ass_with_ears | yeah |
| 16:25.39 | asuffield | no, there's virtually nothing in ICMP that's worth filtering |
| 16:25.40 | ass_with_ears | jaymzh: knowing the different types of ICMP messages requires more brain cells then just fixing the MTU on interfaces, hence why these guys did it the way they did |
| 16:25.53 | ass_with_ears | asuffield: timestamp and network info can lead to information leak |
| 16:26.00 | ass_with_ears | netmask even |
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| 16:26.06 | asuffield | pshaw, that's not an issue |
| 16:26.07 | jaymzh | asuffield: remember ping of death? |
| 16:26.09 | felipe_ | streuner it is atapi something |
| 16:26.14 | felipe_ | streuner does it help? |
| 16:26.22 | asuffield | jaymzh: bug in the first release of windows 95. do not use the first release of windows 95. |
| 16:26.24 | xelon | streuner : soundcore is already installed. and my user name already added to audio group. |
| 16:26.27 | streuner | felipe_: nope |
| 16:26.31 | xelon | streuner: what can i do? |
| 16:26.36 | streuner | xelon: log out and back in |
| 16:26.43 | ass_with_ears | jaymzh: ping of death is not what I d call a valid reason to filter icmp messages |
| 16:26.45 | asuffield | if the security of your network depends on nobody knowing the internal topology then you're fucked. if it doesn't then there's no reason to cripple the diagnostic tools |
| 16:26.49 | xelon | streuner: ok |
| 16:26.55 | greycat | xelon: /usr/bin/id; cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp |
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| 16:27.12 | felipe_ | 0,0,0 0) 'HL-DT-ST' 'CD-RW GCE-8160B ' '1.02' Removable CD-ROM |
| 16:27.14 | jaymzh | asuffield: that's not the point. The point is, only allowing necessay things in your network is reasonable. ICMP 3/4 is required for basic functioning of the network stack. A few others is too, but not wanting the majority is a reasonable thing to do |
| 16:27.19 | ass_with_ears | asuffield: it's not just relying on obscurity, it's making their work harder |
| 16:27.19 | felipe_ | Getting closer |
| 16:27.23 | jaymzh | just like blcoking most TCP/UDP ports is fine |
| 16:27.24 | asuffield | jaymzh: it is not 'reasonable'. it is masturbation. |
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| 16:27.35 | ass_with_ears | hah |
| 16:27.38 | p8m | haha |
| 16:27.41 | Bac9 | greycat: that's: cat /proc/kcore . /dev/dsp |
| 16:27.45 | Bac9 | greycat: that's: cat /proc/kcore > /dev/dsp |
| 16:27.59 | felipe_ | streuner and now? |
| 16:28.06 | jaymzh | it's a decision that I don't care about. As long as you allow the _required_ ones, I'll stop arguing with you ;) |
| 16:28.13 | asuffield | ass_with_ears: it does no such thing, nobody attacks networks like that any more. it's not the 1980s. the primary threats are massed worm attacks, and authorised users |
| 16:28.29 | ass_with_ears | worms and virus aren't really targeted attacks |
| 16:28.31 | tolga | streuner: it didn't worked. I can't set volume high on gnome. when i set it, it'is again set to zero |
| 16:28.32 | streuner | felipe_: well, in order to take an effect (kerneloptions) you _HAVE_ to reboot |
| 16:28.32 | paulswm | Bac9: or cat /dev/urandom, it doesn't matter, it is bits, they make noise |
| 16:28.41 | asuffield | targetted attacks are almost unheard of |
| 16:28.44 | felipe_ | streuner I did nothing |
| 16:28.47 | streuner | tolga: try aumix |
| 16:28.53 | Bac9 | paulswm: don't use up random bits, they're really hard to collect |
| 16:28.54 | greycat | asuffield: web site defacements |
| 16:28.59 | ass_with_ears | yea |
| 16:29.02 | ass_with_ears | like scos |
| 16:29.04 | jaymzh | agreed... targeted attacks use long information gathering periods... making that hard can help you |
| 16:29.05 | asuffield | greycat: they're invariably opportunistic |
| 16:29.05 | ass_with_ears | a few months ago |
| 16:29.05 | paulswm | Bac9: heh, that's good |
| 16:29.14 | tolga | streuner: do i have to install another sound card from modconf? |
| 16:29.16 | jaymzh | that's different from running a root ssh on another port for "security" (not security) |
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| 16:29.18 | asuffield | greycat: the script kiddies don't care which website they deface. they just go sifting at random for ones which they can |
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| 16:29.21 | felipe_ | All I did was the following command: cdrecord --dev=ATAPI --scanbus |
| 16:29.30 | ass_with_ears | asuffield: not always true |
| 16:29.39 | greycat | felipe_: cdrecord -scanbus after rebooting with the ide-scsi options |
| 16:29.41 | asuffield | there are no recorded instances of cases where it wasn't |
| 16:29.44 | jaymzh | wow this chanel moves fast |
| 16:29.46 | streuner | tolga: what does 'lspci -v | grep audio' say? |
| 16:29.47 | greycat | felipe_: no ATAPI crap. |
| 16:30.01 | ass_with_ears | asuffield: remember sco being hacked a while ago, the defacement was not easy to notice, definitely not a kiddie's defacement, and thats just an example |
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| 16:30.08 | jaymzh | anyway, I must get ready for work.... it was good arguing with you all =) |
| 16:30.09 | greycat | felipe_: unless for some reason you think that using ide-cd CD writing is safe in 2.4.x. I certainly don't. |
| 16:30.12 | tolga | streuner: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI |
| 16:30.28 | tolga | streuner: but my card is creative |
| 16:30.33 | ass_with_ears | asuffield: targeted attacks happen, debian got one less then a year and a half ago for the record |
| 16:30.36 | zuralin | ide-cd cd writing is possible in 2.4? |
| 16:30.38 | asuffield | ass_with_ears: it was almost certainly opportunistic. somebody stumbled on a hole in SCO's server and decided to play with it. they didn't start out by saying "How can I crack SCO's box?" |
| 16:30.42 | jaymzh | Yes dvs? |
| 16:30.46 | greycat | zuralin: I wouldn't try it. |
| 16:30.50 | streuner | tolga: give us the whole output |
| 16:30.55 | dvs | jaymzh: Just kidding. See you later |
| 16:30.56 | ass_with_ears | asuffield: that's your opinion |
| 16:31.00 | jaymzh | lol |
| 16:31.01 | streuner | tolga: we need the chipset |
| 16:31.03 | tolga | streuner : 0000:02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) |
| 16:31.04 | jaymzh | alright. |
| 16:31.05 | asuffield | ass_with_ears: that was not a targetted attack. nor was it an external attack, it was from an authorised user |
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| 16:31.13 | zuralin | i use 2.6 so i wouldnt.. just didnt think it was even possible on 2.4 |
| 16:31.29 | streuner | tolga: and that soundcard isn't mentioned in modconf? |
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| 16:31.47 | tolga | streuner: I'm looking. just a sec |
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| 16:32.13 | drewcore | anyone ever set up a debian jr system before? |
| 16:32.26 | ass_with_ears | asuffield: you're saying it was random attack, like worms and the daily kiddiot defacement? |
| 16:32.49 | asuffield | pretty much, yes. somebody stumbled onto either a password or ssh key (I forget which) |
| 16:32.56 | nvz | there is a such thing as a "debian jr system"? I thought debian jr was just a project that aimed at making programs for children in debian?? |
| 16:33.00 | opcodevoid | I've installed ttysnoop and setup httpd to a friend who i've givven a shell to.Now i've config ttysnoop but when i type w |grep ttyp i get nothing although he's logged in? |
| 16:33.05 | opcodevoid | Any ideas |
| 16:33.12 | nvz | dpkg, any ideas? |
| 16:33.12 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of condoms, a little K-Y jelly, and 42 starving kittens. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 16:33.19 | ass_with_ears | opcodevoid: look for vts |
| 16:33.27 | ass_with_ears | pts even |
| 16:33.31 | drewcore | nvz: well, it is, but i'm trying to get one machine (old - no net access) set up for this little kid, so he'll let me use my computer |
| 16:33.59 | tolga | streuner : there is "Ensoniq Soundscape support", "Ensoniq AudioPCI(ES1370) base" and "Ensoniq Audio PCI 97(ES1371) base" which one? |
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| 16:34.02 | opcodevoid | If i type last i get connected pts/0? |
| 16:34.16 | greycat | tolga: at most one of those will load. |
| 16:34.29 | greycat | (unless you have two sound cards) |
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| 16:34.50 | ass_with_ears | one must be very lucky to stumble onto a password or ssh private key giving access to a system of the debian project |
| 16:34.55 | nvz | drewcore: well, you could use kde && kdm, setup kdm with a cute little user icon, and disable authentication, so he can login with a click.. then install apps suited to this kid. depending on age. I had a 4 year old running gnome with real big icons.. mostly played supertux and flash games on cartoonetwork.com |
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| 16:35.06 | tolga | greycat: do you say just try one? |
| 16:35.21 | felipe_ | greycat ok...line added will reboot now |
| 16:35.24 | felipe_ | brb |
| 16:35.33 | drewcore | nvz: that's my plan, i guess... i need to get my hands on a nic though, so he can play online as well |
| 16:35.36 | opcodevoid | ass_with_ears, any idea what pts/1 is? |
| 16:35.43 | dvs | tolga: What sound card do you have? |
| 16:36.17 | tolga | creative, but 'lspci -v | grep audio' says " Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI" |
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| 16:36.33 | greycat | try es1371 first. |
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| 16:36.44 | tolga | greycat : ok |
| 16:36.47 | ass_with_ears | opcodevoid: man pts |
| 16:37.06 | nvz | drewcore: yeah, if its going to be online, use makepasswd, to generate decent user and root passwords.. something liek KJ32jr32.3/r3ju2fs or so and update em reguarly, just keep the rootpw written somewhere for administrative purposes, and you can configure KDM to bypass authentication when the kid clicks his user icon |
| 16:37.12 | tolga | greycat: do I have to remove soundcore |
| 16:37.14 | tolga | ? |
| 16:37.26 | RichiH | nvz: you are aspiring long lines in the stats page, eh? |
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| 16:37.40 | streuner | tolga: no, just take greycat's advice |
| 16:37.53 | streuner | load 1371 |
| 16:37.59 | nvz | RichiH: I've always had the longest lines, for the past 3 years :P |
| 16:38.00 | opcodevoid | Ass_with_ears how come ttyp doesn't show on his connection and only pts/1? |
| 16:38.11 | nvz | RichiH: I guess I just talk a lot |
| 16:38.27 | ass_with_ears | !confuse opcodevoid |
| 16:38.28 | dpkg | No, how are my gouda yesterday, opcodevoid? wellies of the dictatorship of belarus with extra herring |
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| 16:38.36 | drewcore | is there somewhere that i see which packages are on each ISO? |
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| 16:38.48 | nvz | dpkg, cd contents |
| 16:38.48 | dpkg | methinks cd contents is http://wooledge.org/~greg/woody-3.0r0-i386-X, where X is 1,2,3..7 |
| 16:38.48 | sml | ass_with_ears: I had snort email the other day saying that an ssh key had been tranferred using ftp. just as with people using the same username/password credentials a lot of people use just one private key and put the public key all over the place. this means a single key compromise is devestating. |
| 16:38.51 | greycat | drewcore: in woody? /msg dpkg cd contents |
| 16:39.05 | RichiH | nvz: oh i see, that makes sense. oh i see, that makes sense. oh i see, that makes sense [...] |
| 16:39.08 | RichiH | ;) |
| 16:39.11 | nvz | heh |
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| 16:39.26 | altt | hey guys! the sarge install worked! |
| 16:39.37 | drewcore | greycat thx |
| 16:39.46 | opcodevoid | Ass_with_ears, just that i can't snoop on what he's using my shell acct for without a ttyp? |
| 16:39.46 | drac | !congratulate altt |
| 16:39.47 | dpkg | Hugs & Puppies altt, you did it! |
| 16:39.48 | dvs | altt: You sound surprised. |
| 16:39.58 | sml | anyway im off home before i get very violent with this cisco 2500. later all |
| 16:40.01 | ass_with_ears | opcodevoid: you're not making sense to me |
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| 16:40.19 | opcodevoid | If i type /usr/sbin/ttysnoop pts/1 i get connection refused? |
| 16:40.34 | nvz | .., ... , ...., ....., ...... |
| 16:40.35 | ass_with_ears | opcodevoid: is that supposed to be a question ? or a fact? |
| 16:40.41 | altt | i have the TOTALL newb question........ what is the command for "run" ? |
| 16:40.42 | opcodevoid | A fact |
| 16:40.43 | altt | :D |
| 16:40.47 | wide_awake | Hiya. I'm running debian on amd64, and have a server which has been running fine for about 160 days. Over the weekend, weird stuff has started happening though. There's now a process that seems to be hanging everything up (ps, top, cat /proc/<pid>/cmdline). I've tried to kill and kill -9 it, but to no avail. Any suggestions on what else I can try? |
| 16:40.50 | ass_with_ears | opcodevoid: then remove the trailing "?" |
| 16:40.54 | zuralin | altt. ./ |
| 16:41.01 | altt | im sorry |
| 16:41.03 | opcodevoid | I don't understand? |
| 16:41.19 | altt | but really |
| 16:41.19 | streuner | wide_awake: did you ask in #debian-amd64? |
| 16:41.20 | asg | wide_awake: #debian-amd64 |
| 16:41.24 | ass_with_ears | opcodevoid: question : "how do I use ttysnoop *?*" |
| 16:41.24 | wide_awake | nope |
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| 16:41.27 | wide_awake | thanks |
| 16:41.31 | ass_with_ears | that's how you're supposed to use "?" sign |
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| 16:41.34 | zuralin | altt, ./ |
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| 16:41.37 | opcodevoid | sorry. |
| 16:41.46 | altt | "run" is not a command, so what do i use? |
| 16:41.55 | zuralin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.55 | zuralin | ./ |
| 16:42.04 | altt | :( |
| 16:42.05 | ass_with_ears | opcodevoid: I suggest you man ttysnoop first,then get a rope if you can't figure out how to use it |
| 16:42.09 | asg | altt: in what context are you trying to use 'run'? |
| 16:42.13 | zuralin | ^@$#$%!#$%# |
| 16:42.15 | opcodevoid | Okay |
| 16:42.26 | zuralin | altt, ./PROGRAMNAME |
| 16:42.37 | zuralin | or sh PROGRAMNAME |
| 16:42.42 | altt | as in run /usr/sbir/base-config |
| 16:42.48 | asg | altt: just type it |
| 16:42.53 | asg | altt: /usr/sbin/base-config |
| 16:42.57 | altt | ah thanks |
| 16:43.07 | ass_with_ears | heh |
| 16:44.09 | Bac9 | top |
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| 16:44.22 | Bac9 | damn xchat grabing focus |
| 16:44.30 | altt | hmm |
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| 16:44.47 | altt | its not working... |
| 16:44.54 | greymonk | Hello |
| 16:44.56 | asg | altt: in what _way_ is it not working? |
| 16:45.00 | tolga | greycat : it didn't worked. |
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| 16:45.00 | zuralin | altt, read a book on linux or something... |
| 16:45.01 | greymonk | How does one setup xprint and mozilla |
| 16:45.04 | altt | and i ran it as root |
| 16:45.14 | zuralin | error message's help |
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| 16:45.30 | altt | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.36 | zuralin | none of the telepathic people are in here today |
| 16:45.42 | qpee | hi, after an upgrade of my firefox all the fonts got crazy, i can;t really read them, they seam fuzzy. what could got wrong and how do i correct this? it's pretty annoying. i tried to change the font, the size but nothing helped. any ideas? |
| 16:45.46 | zuralin | either chmod +x /home/alt/check.sh |
| 16:45.47 | asg | altt: man chmod |
| 16:45.48 | greycat | altt: ls -ld /home/alt/check.sh |
| 16:45.51 | zuralin | or type sh /home/alt/check.sh |
| 16:45.57 | RedEyess | Anyone familiar with xprint and mozilla? |
| 16:46.01 | Bac9 | zuralin: how would you know? are you telepathic to tell who is/not? |
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| 16:46.06 | altt | thats a bunch |
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| 16:46.31 | zuralin | Bac9, its a sixth sense |
| 16:46.32 | nvz | yeah mozilla uses xprint, hows that for familiarty |
| 16:46.33 | tolga | ??? |
| 16:46.47 | Bac9 | zuralin: ah so you lied? |
| 16:47.04 | milwatts | how can i add new ftp to sources.list ? |
| 16:47.14 | zuralin | bac9, never |
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| 16:47.20 | dvs | milwatts: With an editor |
| 16:47.23 | asg | milwatts: apt-setup |
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| 16:47.33 | felipe_ | greycat cdrecord -scanbus working now |
| 16:47.38 | nvz | is there a way to /msg someone on irc when they arent online? like f.e. if they are registered can you leave them an offline memo or something? heh |
| 16:47.40 | Bac9 | zuralin: you said no one here is telepathic yet you have a sixth sence that can tell who is telepathic |
| 16:47.42 | felipe_ | scsibus0: |
| 16:47.45 | milwatts | dvhart, you don't understand mt question |
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| 16:47.48 | milwatts | *my |
| 16:47.49 | felipe_ | 0,0,0 0) 'HL-DT-ST' 'CD-RW GCE-8160B ' '1.02' Removable CD-ROM |
| 16:47.50 | RedEyess | how can I set up xprint to work with mozilla |
| 16:47.54 | greycat | nvz: /msg memoserv help |
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| 16:48.37 | tankfrank | ce qualche italiano?? |
| 16:48.41 | nvz | I see :) |
| 16:48.41 | greycat | !it |
| 16:48.42 | dpkg | methinks italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it, (anche /j #linux-it). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 16:48.57 | nvz | too bad the person I wanted to memo isnt registered |
| 16:48.57 | milwatts | thx dvs asg |
| 16:49.11 | tolga | greycat : when I installed enlightenment, gnome and kde, it was working. But i reinstall debian, it isn't working now. |
| 16:49.44 | sean_micken | debian is quite behind with xfce, any idea when it will have xfce-4.2.x ? |
| 16:49.51 | tolga | greycat: I did no configuration on last installation |
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| 16:50.00 | nvz | !info xfce |
| 16:50.13 | felipe_ | streuner hey I got that working |
| 16:50.14 | ass_with_ears | sean_micken: sooner if you help |
| 16:50.27 | streuner | felipe_: fine :-) |
| 16:50.29 | sean_micken | ass_with_ears, is debian lacking in help? |
| 16:50.46 | felipe_ | streuner but dunno what next steps to take |
| 16:50.48 | nvz | ah, its 4.0.5 |
| 16:50.53 | nvz | and its called xfce4 |
| 16:50.53 | tolga | no idea about this??????? |
| 16:51.13 | sean_micken | xfce4, still... debian's is old. |
| 16:51.28 | nvz | fortunatly its teh suck, so not many people will care :P |
| 16:51.31 | pipeline | sean_micken: We won't have 4.2 until sarge is out. Ditto for KDE 3.4. |
| 16:51.35 | sean_micken | 4.2.1.1 is the most recent. |
| 16:51.36 | ass_with_ears | sean_micken: apparently some maintainers are not as fast as upstream authors |
| 16:51.39 | felipe_ | greycat help me here |
| 16:51.43 | streuner | tolga: what kernel? |
| 16:51.52 | sean_micken | pipeline, okay, bummer :( |
| 16:52.01 | nvz | I mean if you like the way it looks I guess its alright, but its certainly not reall flexible like the componants of other desktops.. you cant really customize it much |
| 16:52.05 | tolga | streuner : 2.4.27 |
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| 16:52.19 | streuner | tolga: sarge? |
| 16:52.32 | tolga | streuner : it was working on this version of kernel. yes it is sarge |
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| 16:52.49 | valdyn_ | xfce 4.2 is packaged for debian, by the xfce maintainers, just not in debian yet |
| 16:52.50 | streuner | tolga: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.x and use ALSA then |
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| 16:53.04 | pipeline | sean_micken: Unofficial packages |
| 16:53.07 | pipeline | sean_micken: http://www.os-cillation.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=deb-news;action=display;num=1104708719 |
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| 16:53.47 | felipe_ | All I need to do now is give the command line? cdrecord dev=0,0,0 driveropts=burnfree image.iso |
| 16:54.07 | Omnistegan | hey guys, can someone help me build an exremely minimal debian based livecd, all i really need is a few specific apps on the live cd, is there a good tutorial on doing this somewhere? |
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| 16:54.12 | tolga | streuner : but it was working at last installation with 2.4.27. I had ben installed enlightenment, kde and gnome, when i remove the enlightenment, the sound was gone |
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| 16:54.23 | Gud | hai2u |
| 16:54.31 | streuner | tolga: that was ESD then |
| 16:54.31 | asg | Omnistegan: look at the bootcd package (and debootstrap for a chroot) |
| 16:54.33 | Gud | I have problem |
| 16:54.34 | Gud | root@/mnt : 18:45:06: umount /mnt/ |
| 16:54.35 | Gud | umount: unmount of /mnt failed: Device busy |
| 16:54.37 | sean_micken | pipeline, would you recommend os-works.com as an unoffical repo? ain't gonna like b0rk my system is it :) |
| 16:54.37 | greycat | felipe_: assuming your driver supports burnfree (most recent ones do) |
| 16:54.42 | Gud | wat does dat mean |
| 16:54.43 | greycat | s/driver/drive/ |
| 16:54.43 | tolga | streuner : what? |
| 16:54.45 | asg | Gud: cd / ; try again |
| 16:54.49 | Gud | asg: what |
| 16:54.51 | asg | Gud: cd / ; try again |
| 16:54.56 | greycat | heh |
| 16:54.57 | Gud | asg: what |
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| 16:54.59 | Omnistegan | asg, on the debian site? |
| 16:55.01 | asg | Gud: cd / ; try again (fucker) |
| 16:55.03 | streuner | !tell tolga about esd |
| 16:55.03 | greycat | Gud: cd / ; umount /mnt/ |
| 16:55.06 | felipe_ | greycat I wont use it then cause my computer is very old...k6-II 300 |
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| 16:55.12 | Gud | ?_? |
| 16:55.12 | greycat | felipe_: huh?? |
| 16:55.19 | greycat | felipe_: please put the crack pipe down. |
| 16:55.23 | Gud | i r nut sur were to type dat |
| 16:55.29 | Gud | *not |
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| 16:55.35 | asg | Gud: either something is using the /mnt or you are still in that directory. |
| 16:55.36 | felipe_ | greycat lol seriouly |
| 16:55.40 | ass_with_ears | Gud: would you mind typing properly? |
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| 16:55.44 | greycat | felipe_: what the FUCK does that have to do with anything? |
| 16:55.47 | Gud | ass_with_ears: lol ok |
| 16:55.47 | asg | Gud: use 'fuser' to find out what is using it. |
| 16:55.49 | greycat | how old is the *cd drive*? |
| 16:55.54 | felipe_ | greycat you said the "mosty recent" |
| 16:56.05 | greycat | most recent DRIVES should support burnfree. |
| 16:56.05 | milwatts | is there limewire for debian? |
| 16:56.12 | Gud | asg: lol ok |
| 16:56.12 | asg | !limewire |
| 16:56.12 | dpkg | it has been said that limewire is the coolest graphical gnutella client for both windows and linux. see http://www.limewire.com! GPL! apt-get install limewire. |
| 16:56.13 | greycat | it has NOTHING to do with your computer's CPU |
| 16:56.22 | felipe_ | greycat oh ok then! |
| 16:56.23 | Gud | thank2u |
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| 16:56.39 | felipe_ | greycat living and learning |
| 16:57.01 | milwatts | asg, thanks, but gives me error. probably i have to try another ftp or http ? |
| 16:57.03 | tolga | streuner : I'm installing esound, esound-clients and esound-common |
| 16:57.12 | tolga | streuner: ok? |
| 16:57.12 | dexter__ | Why aren't some countries teaching out english in school? |
| 16:57.14 | asg | milwatts: apt-get install limewire gives you an error? |
| 16:57.17 | felipe_ | greycat speed parameter is not important? |
| 16:57.17 | streuner | tolga: no |
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| 16:57.29 | tolga | streuner: what? |
| 16:57.30 | streuner | tolga: read what dpkg told you |
| 16:57.32 | ass_with_ears | dexter__: you mean like cuba or north corea ? |
| 16:57.34 | greycat | felipe_: would you please for god's sake just TRY IT already? |
| 16:57.34 | milwatts | asg, pkg not found |
| 16:57.38 | sean_micken | pipeline, how does 2 repos with different package version co-exist on the same system? how does that work? |
| 16:57.48 | felipe_ | greycat w/out speed tehn |
| 16:57.57 | valdyn_ | dexter__: why should they? |
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| 16:58.01 | felipe_ | greycat you are funny |
| 16:58.03 | dexter__ | ass_with_ears: Yeah.. or the countrie "gud" came from :P |
| 16:58.05 | xam | dexter: why don't some countries teach mandarin as the 2nd language? It is used by soooo many people ;) |
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| 16:58.17 | asg | milwatts: oh, http://www.limewire.com/english/content/home.shtml |
| 16:58.18 | ass_with_ears | dexter__: .se people speak better english usually |
| 16:58.22 | ass_with_ears | dexter__: at least the ones I ve met |
| 16:58.23 | tolga | streuner: it is say nothing about what i'm going to do |
| 16:58.25 | tolga | ! |
| 16:58.28 | dexter__ | ass_with_ears: Here i am ;) |
| 16:58.36 | dexter__ | Well.. Was that guy swedish? |
| 16:58.38 | milwatts | asg, E: Couldn't find package limewire, but i can download it and install it by hand, no prob |
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| 16:58.46 | ass_with_ears | Gud [~erik@1-2-5-7b.mal.sth.bostream.se] |
| 16:58.49 | ass_with_ears | looks so yes |
| 16:58.50 | flashdrvnk | Hello. |
| 16:58.53 | asg | milwatts: yeah, apparently it isn't packaged |
| 16:59.07 | dexter__ | ass_with_ears: I didn't look for the host, and didn't want to scroll up ;) |
| 16:59.15 | streuner | tolga: You need, in order to have full functional soundsystem in linux, ALSA or OSS |
| 16:59.21 | ass_with_ears | I just /lastlog'ed :) no need to scroll ;) |
| 16:59.34 | felipe_ | greycat |
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| 16:59.37 | pipeline | sean_micken: If you don't set up any pinning, the newer one wins. You can also use "package -> force version" in synaptic. |
| 16:59.43 | pipeline | sean_micken: It's every bit as dodgy as it sounds. |
| 16:59.46 | felipe_ | greycat cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2) |
| 16:59.52 | flashdrvnk | I tried to install JRE, I did it with alian, but when I want to launch an java app it says: OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/bin/java = Error] What can I do? |
| 16:59.59 | tolga | i'm installing alsa-base |
| 16:59.59 | streuner | tolga: if you are too special to install just an simple kernel-image and run 'alsaconf' linux is not what you are looking for |
| 17:00.03 | asg | flashdrvnk: /msg dpkg install java |
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| 17:00.12 | flashdrvnk | Okay. |
| 17:00.45 | tolga | streuner: ok |
| 17:01.01 | tolga | streuner: thanks to motivate me :.( |
| 17:01.03 | sean_micken | pipeline, heh. k... and if i run into some software that i can't find a debian package for or the version is too old, what does a guy usually do? make his own .deb? |
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| 17:01.05 | felipe_ | greycat any idea? |
| 17:01.15 | resiak | !any ideas |
| 17:01.15 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of string, a little WD-40, and 5 or 6 sex-crazed bunnies. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few hours! |
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| 17:01.46 | dexter__ | ass_with_ears: You know what? He deosn't even use Linux |
| 17:01.47 | ass_with_ears | yea |
| 17:01.47 | ass_with_ears | sounds cool |
| 17:01.47 | ass_with_ears | I ll talkke the 5 6 sex crazed bunnies too |
| 17:01.52 | tolga | bye |
| 17:02.01 | ass_with_ears | dexter__: I m not on linux either at the moment |
| 17:02.07 | ass_with_ears | dexter__: what's the problem with it? |
| 17:02.21 | greycat | felipe_: permissions. |
| 17:02.23 | greycat | felipe_: try it as root |
| 17:02.26 | pipeline | sean_micken: Well, if there's no package for it, you don't have anything to lose by installing it in /usr/local |
| 17:02.34 | felipe_ | greycat ok |
| 17:02.49 | pipeline | sean_micken: The danger is when the version is too old. Things are getting "interesting" because some new software isn't being permitted to enter Unstable. |
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| 17:03.12 | pipeline | sean_micken: Me, I'm plugging along with Gnome 2.8 -- I'll wait for Gnome 2.10 after Sarge comes out :P |
| 17:03.20 | milwatts | asg, thx anyway :) |
| 17:03.27 | felipe_ | greycat burning |
| 17:03.31 | sean_micken | pipeline, why is all this stuff *after* sarge? why not now? |
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| 17:03.56 | felipe_ | greycat is it common havin to be root to record a cd? |
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| 17:04.18 | pipeline | felipe_: People usually set cdrecord to be suid |
| 17:04.21 | greycat | felipe_: or give yourself permissions on /dev/sg0 and /dev/sr0 |
| 17:04.22 | thingfish | sean_micken: debian is quality-driven, not release date -driven. |
| 17:04.35 | pipeline | sean_micken: Because if they keep adding giant clusters of new shit, sarge will never be released. |
| 17:04.35 | valdyn_ | sean_micken: the goal of debian isnt to be as bleeding edge as possible |
| 17:04.35 | tolga | I installed esound, and it is working now. Thanks all |
| 17:04.40 | felipe_ | hmmm ok I see |
| 17:04.44 | greycat | felipe_: but if you're not root, you get extra warnings about "unable to set real-time priority", etc., etc. |
| 17:04.55 | streuner | tolga: that's NOT a soundsystem in linux |
| 17:05.06 | greycat | streuner: hey, if it works... |
| 17:05.14 | streuner | tolga: 10-15 minutes and you have one... |
| 17:05.15 | felipe_ | greycat I understand |
| 17:05.15 | pipeline | sean_micken: Better to partially-freeze the Unstable tree for a few weeks and actually get a release out than to sit on our thumbs for the next two years waiting |
| 17:05.27 | felipe_ | greycat seems to be done already holy |
| 17:05.46 | tolga | streuner: I can't understand |
| 17:06.03 | tolga | streuner : why is it working then? |
| 17:06.04 | greycat | felipe_: CDs can burn up to about 22x without DMA... |
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| 17:06.35 | felipe_ | greycat thats fairly fast |
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| 17:06.43 | sean_micken | pipeline, i need a few packages from unstable (like mozilla-mplayer and nvidia drivers) and i was told that in order to get them it would be safest to upgrade _everything_ to unstable instead... do i really have to do all that just becasue i want a few packages from unstable? |
| 17:06.48 | greycat | the only drawback is that without DMA, it'll hog the CPU |
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| 17:07.36 | pipeline | sean_micken: No, not usually, but you do need to configure pinning |
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| 17:07.50 | pipeline | sean_micken: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
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| 17:08.20 | sean_micken | pipeline, the "APT::Default-Release "testing";" thing? |
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| 17:08.29 | valdyn_ | sean_micken: you can download the packages and dpkg -i each, thats simple, works usually, and you will be notified if depends are missing |
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| 17:09.11 | sean_micken | valdyn_, okay. |
| 17:09.16 | milwatts | !nvidia |
| 17:09.17 | dpkg | well, nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
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| 17:09.37 | Roey | mwilson: hello |
| 17:09.46 | milwatts | !nvidia installer |
| 17:09.47 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia installer is a script available from nvidia.com which installs nvidia drivers for you. However, it overwrites files that apt owns, which can get overwritten themselves when X is upgraded, leading to random breakage. Ask me about "nvidia-howto" or just "nvidia" |
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| 17:10.10 | milwatts | !nvidia-howto |
| 17:10.10 | dpkg | i guess nvidia-howto is http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html for complete instructions for installing the NVIDIA DRI drivers "The Debian Way" on Sarge or Sid, or http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt for Woody. |
| 17:10.18 | dexter__ | ass_with_ears: He asks for help with Linux, but he deosn't even use it. Isn't that a bit stupid= |
| 17:10.24 | valdyn_ | !tell milwatts about msg |
| 17:10.34 | dexter__ | He deosn't use it AT ALL |
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| 17:10.46 | milwatts | valdyn_, thanks |
| 17:10.53 | sean_micken | valdyn_, pipeline, thanks for the help. :) later. |
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| 17:11.14 | cbr | hmm.. i'm trying to use evdev as my keyboard protocol but the button with the greater-then smaller-then signs doesnt work :S |
| 17:11.17 | cbr | why is that? |
| 17:11.58 | asg | cbr: does it work if you hold down 'SHIFT' while typing . or , ? |
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| 17:12.20 | citral | in regexp, [^ ] match any non-blank character right? |
| 17:12.34 | cbr | asg: when i hold down shift and type . or , i get ;: |
| 17:12.47 | cbr | which is normal |
| 17:13.05 | asg | cbr: oh, you must have some odd keyboard mapping then (or an odd keyboard) |
| 17:13.18 | cbr | i have ee keyboard mapping |
| 17:13.37 | cbr | *layout |
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| 17:14.10 | cbr | that key seems to be the only one dead :S |
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| 17:15.31 | valdyn_ | cbr: that key may not exist in your keybaord mapping / settings |
| 17:15.50 | cbr | without evdev it works valdyn_ |
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| 17:16.11 | valdyn_ | cbr: that doesnt seem to contradict me |
| 17:16.13 | shadukan | howdy ppl |
| 17:16.23 | valdyn_ | cbr: i know nothing about what youre trying to do though |
| 17:16.35 | shadukan | i have a question because my laptop acts wired |
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| 17:16.45 | cbr | i'm trying to type those characters |
| 17:16.48 | cbr | and it does nothing |
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| 17:16.53 | cbr | that's what i'm trying to do |
| 17:16.56 | shadukan | i have an IBM latop X31 and i have managed to setup wireless easy and |
| 17:17.07 | shadukan | my wireless card was easy to activate |
| 17:17.11 | valdyn_ | cbr: so the key isnt mapped to anything |
| 17:17.17 | shadukan | now i use iwconfig to setup the network |
| 17:17.19 | cbr | valdyn_: can i map it? |
| 17:17.21 | flashdrvnk | Thank you asg, dpkg is a very helpful bot. |
| 17:17.21 | dpkg | pas de quoi, flashdrvnk |
| 17:17.26 | asg | flashdrvnk: you're welcome |
| 17:17.34 | shadukan | and i get my ip through an dhcp server |
| 17:17.39 | shadukan | so what i do is : |
| 17:17.45 | valdyn_ | cbr: im sure you can, i know nothing about what you are doing w/ "evdev" so i dont know how |
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| 17:17.52 | shadukan | ifconfig eth0 up |
| 17:17.58 | flashdrvnk | dpkg Tu parles francais? |
| 17:17.59 | shadukan | dhclient eth0 |
| 17:18.03 | flashdrvnk | :> |
| 17:18.10 | shadukan | and i get error saying |
| 17:18.30 | asg | flashdrvnk: ravenbird speaks better french since it's a canadian bot |
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| 17:18.42 | shadukan | no dhcpoffers recieved No working leases in persistent database-sleeping |
| 17:18.48 | valdyn_ | cbr: cat /dev/input/eventX should print garbage even for unmapped keys |
| 17:19.01 | shadukan | even before a week it seemed to work nice my wireless |
| 17:19.02 | shadukan | ? |
| 17:19.07 | shadukan | any suggestions? |
| 17:19.28 | cbr | valdyn_: yes xev responds to that key |
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| 17:21.01 | shadukan | any suggestions from gurus????because whatever i do don't work |
| 17:21.32 | Di``` | people....promise 378 is really incompatible with debian kernel 2.6 ? I mean the hardware RAID function |
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| 17:21.59 | valdyn_ | Di```: i told you already that this thing has no hardware raid |
| 17:22.41 | valdyn_ | Di```: the little chip that promise only calls "hardware raid", while it isnt, is not supported |
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| 17:23.55 | valdyn_ | !sata raid |
| 17:24.32 | Di``` | valdyn_: this is fake raid? |
| 17:24.44 | Di``` | its like software raid ? the same thing ? |
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| 17:25.05 | asg | shadukan: try setting the correct channel / mode / web (on or off) |
| 17:25.11 | asg | s/web/WEP/ |
| 17:25.20 | __DL__ | topic |
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| 17:25.28 | asg | shadukan: also, does 'iwlist <interface> scan' show any available APs? |
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| 17:27.03 | valdyn_ | Di```: its has a little processor that assists in doing software raid |
| 17:27.06 | shadukan | on sec |
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| 17:27.19 | shadukan | yup it returns a list of wirelles networks in the uni |
| 17:27.50 | shadukan | i setup iwconfig eth0 mode Managed |
| 17:28.11 | asg | shadukan: okay, then make sure you configure the mode (managed usually) and key (off usually) and, optionally, channel (whatever iwlist returned.) |
| 17:28.13 | Eclipser | is there any program to adjust the brightness level of (compaq armada e500) laptop screen? |
| 17:28.15 | valdyn_ | Di```: the raiding though is still done by just that software ( a "driver" ), a driver that uses that chip does not exist for linux in stock kernels |
| 17:28.20 | directhex | Di```, promise 20378 is supported in 2.6.11, though to use promises' software raid rather than mdadm, you need to use a 2.4 kernel and their binary driver |
| 17:28.31 | shadukan | ok asg |
| 17:28.36 | Omnistegan | hey guys, I want to create a linux live cd, debian based, that is very very small, I want it to run an X server and ratpoison window manager, is there a good tutorial for anything like this? |
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| 17:28.43 | shadukan | i see a list but i don't see the office lan we have in our office |
| 17:28.49 | shadukan | i see global networks |
| 17:28.50 | asg | Omnistegan: look at the bootcd package and debootstrap |
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| 17:30.06 | asg | shadukan: office lan? |
| 17:30.18 | shadukan | yup we have an |
| 17:30.21 | shadukan | AP |
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| 17:30.28 | asg | shadukan: but you don't see it in the list? |
| 17:30.31 | shadukan | and we connect to it and we have also a dhcp server |
| 17:30.37 | shadukan | and i cannot see it in the list |
| 17:30.39 | shadukan | yup |
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| 17:30.44 | asg | shadukan: it may not be broadcasting its ssid |
| 17:30.54 | shadukan | when i start windows it works ok? |
| 17:31.09 | shadukan | ok! |
| 17:31.19 | asg | shadukan: did you manually assign an essid to the interface? |
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| 17:31.27 | shadukan | nop i leave it |
| 17:31.47 | shadukan | to get it dynamically |
| 17:31.52 | asg | shadukan: try assigning the APs ssid manually |
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| 17:32.06 | shadukan | ok |
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| 17:33.21 | shadukan | i will try out few things |
| 17:33.25 | shadukan | saludos amigos |
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| 17:33.46 | asg | ciao |
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| 17:36.34 | Di``` | directhex: I already instaled 2.6.8-2686-smp. If you can do more details ( i'm not expert user, but i need to try do that ), What is the next step for me? |
| 17:37.04 | greycat | dump it in octal, then run it through sed -e 's/0/000/g' -e 's/1/001/g' -e 's/2/010/g' ... |
| 17:37.07 | greycat | ECHAN |
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| 17:38.36 | directhex | Di```, sorry, getting my chips confused, that ought to work as is for linux software raid, but as you've been told, it has no haredware raid facility. highpoint's fake raid driver is only for 2.4 kernels, so you can use the binary fake raid driver on 2.4, or use mdadm on 2.6 |
| 17:40.33 | Di``` | directhex: What do you think that is better? Set up 2.4 kernel and use fake raid driver or use mdadm on 2.6? |
| 17:41.11 | directhex | Di```, i wouldn't trust a binary driver, given an alternative, though mdadm can be irritating to configure and cannot cooperate with windows |
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| 17:45.59 | Di``` | directhex: What do you mean: "cannot cooperate with windows"??? i need to do a mail server linux... |
| 17:46.00 | A-z-i-z | if i have no services running, do i need a firewall? |
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| 17:47.07 | directhex | Di```, i mean "mdadm-based raid cannot interoperate with promise's software raid, you cannot combine promise-based and mdadm-based raid arrays on the same drives, so you cannot install windows on there and use mdadm" |
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| 17:48.27 | mastertet | Hello, I use Debian Sarge and I like it a lot! I want to find a good editor. I edit perl, html, css and LaTeX documents. I don't like vi/vim and Emacs is a little to big for me. Any suggestions? |
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| 17:48.44 | je_fro | nano |
| 17:48.45 | mwilson | mastertet: nedit? |
| 17:48.59 | mastertet | taking notes :) |
| 17:49.01 | je_fro | or gedit |
| 17:49.03 | Di``` | directhex: sorry the word, but promise is like a little sh*t heh? |
| 17:49.07 | je_fro | PICO!! |
| 17:49.35 | mastertet | by the way, I prefer command line editors |
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| 17:49.40 | foobared | is vi big? |
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| 17:50.03 | directhex | Di```, you'll get the exact same experience from any software raid manufacturer, be it promise, highpoint, silicon image, ite, or someone i haven't even thought of. if you want hardware raid, you spend a few hundred on 3ware |
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| 17:50.32 | gabriel | Please ``http://www.debian.org'' is ON? |
| 17:50.55 | directhex | use a mirror, e.g. www.nl.debian.org |
| 17:51.04 | greycat | works for me. |
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| 17:53.51 | kink- | I would like to run Netscape 4.7 on my pc running sid |
| 17:53.57 | Di``` | directhex: this experience can include mdadm? |
| 17:53.59 | kink- | can't find a package for it |
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| 17:54.16 | kink- | any idea? |
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| 17:54.38 | Di``` | directhex: how much is a 3ware??? |
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| 17:54.42 | kink- | (the reason is that someone is reporting that ns 4.7 is incompatible with some webpage so I'd like to investigate) |
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| 17:55.12 | greycat | kink-: you'll have to get a binary of it from upstream (netscape.com) and get the libs to run it. |
| 17:55.15 | greycat | ~redhat crap |
| 17:55.16 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, redhat crap is 'apt-get install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1' if you get 'libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file' (get it from woody if you use sarge or sid) |
| 17:55.19 | greycat | you'll probably need that one. |
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| 17:55.59 | nailbiter | kink-: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/netscape4.77 |
| 17:56.56 | kink- | nailbiter: thanks |
| 17:56.57 | mwilson | kink-: Look at them, say "you're right, it is, deal with it", and move on. |
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| 17:57.12 | kink- | mwilson: I'll try that it this fails : ) |
| 17:57.17 | mwilson | kink-: Someone still using NS 4.7 has many more problems than whether a page renders properly or not. |
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| 17:58.24 | greycat | mwilson: could be worse. |
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| 17:58.38 | mwilson | How? |
| 17:58.41 | kink- | mwilson: we try to make squirrelmail as compatible as possible |
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| 17:59.56 | debian_novice | can anyone tell me whether there is irc support for request tracker |
| 17:59.57 | debian_novice | ? |
| 18:00.04 | smartbhai | hey people |
| 18:00.07 | smartbhai | hows it going |
| 18:00.19 | phin | ok, quick question, im gonna run debian sid on a k6-2, should i run 2.4-k6 or should i run 2.6-386. which would most likely be more responsive on a workstation? |
| 18:00.20 | mwilson | Do we have to guess what "request tracker" is? |
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| 18:00.45 | smartbhai | hey can someone guide me to some link where i can find nice information to debian package management |
| 18:01.14 | dondelelcaro | smartbhai: to install package? or to make them yourself? |
| 18:01.31 | Emiml | I like reading server status from channels topis. |
| 18:01.31 | smartbhai | i want to know entire package management concepts |
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| 18:01.37 | phin | anyone? |
| 18:01.49 | smartbhai | i already kknow the basics just to go into detail |
| 18:02.10 | dondelelcaro | smartbhai: but which side? the package installation side? or the package creation side? |
| 18:02.23 | debian_novice | request tracker is a ticketing system..like if someone wants to report a problem, them email the tracker and it then qeues it according priority and other options |
| 18:02.45 | smartbhai | on the package installation side |
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| 18:03.01 | dondelelcaro | smartbhai: see the debian reference and/or the apt|aptitude manual |
| 18:03.03 | dondelelcaro | !debian reference |
| 18:03.04 | dpkg | the debian reference guide used to be known as the debian quick reference [but now it's too big to be "quick"] and is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html |
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| 18:03.09 | phin | anyone?! |
| 18:03.11 | phin | ok, quick question, im gonna run debian sid on a k6-2, should i run 2.4-k6 or should i run 2.6-386. which would most likely be more responsive on a workstation? |
| 18:03.26 | debian_novice | does any one know? |
| 18:03.37 | smartbhai | thanx dpkg |
| 18:03.37 | dpkg | smartbhai: de rien |
| 18:03.51 | smartbhai | sorry dpkg i didnt get u |
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| 18:04.31 | mwilson | debian_novice: Why would you want support for such a thing via IRC? |
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| 18:05.42 | Emiml | debian_novice: install both of them, and test by yourself. One kernel with modules is just 46MB |
| 18:05.58 | crashbg | hey, what do i need to compile custom debian kernels - kernel-tree-2.6.8 or kernel-source-2.6.8 |
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| 18:06.29 | debian_novice | actually i need to dump the whole current rt2 database to rt3 for upgrading purposes |
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| 18:06.34 | PSIplus_ | hi! |
| 18:06.35 | smartbhai | also can someone tell me what is APCI and APIC these things i see in dmesg output |
| 18:06.38 | SlimeyPete | phin: k6 |
| 18:06.40 | debian_novice | there isnt much help available on this on the internet |
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| 18:06.48 | PSIplus_ | how to kill all processes of one user, e.h. to kick him? |
| 18:07.00 | SlimeyPete | phin: oh, didn't notice the 2.6 |
| 18:07.02 | asg | PSIplus_: man pkill |
| 18:07.06 | SlimeyPete | in that case, I nodda clue |
| 18:07.07 | smartbhai | kill pid |
| 18:07.12 | asg | PSIplus_: also, install slay (and man slay) |
| 18:07.13 | bgat | can someone help me figure out why a new sarge install won't boot on a Compaq 1850r? |
| 18:07.19 | phin | ya |
| 18:07.29 | phin | im in wonder of what would be more responsive |
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| 18:07.43 | PSIplus_ | thanx |
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| 18:07.57 | smartbhai | or use lsof |
| 18:07.58 | SlimeyPete | shrug... just grab the sources for 2.6 and roll your own, it's easy and it'll be more efficient than either of those ;) |
| 18:08.08 | smartbhai | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:08.24 | netman1 | bgat: does it have an smart raid5 (cciss driver) disk controler? |
| 18:08.25 | phin | slimey: ya i could, but then i have to build new hostap and pcmcia modules as well |
| 18:08.32 | valdyn_ | !apic |
| 18:08.32 | dpkg | somebody said apic was Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller, a new PIC, and about time too... |
| 18:08.36 | valdyn_ | !acpi |
| 18:08.36 | travisat | !acpi |
| 18:08.36 | dpkg | acpi is probably Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- a power management interface that gives more control to the BIOS, or horribly horribly broken. for suspend software check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/ , or "run this arbitrary code in ring 0", or http://acpi.sf.net/ |
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| 18:09.20 | mwilson | debian_novice: You still haven't described why you'd need support for a trouble ticket system in an IRC client. |
| 18:09.23 | bgat | netman1: no, it's an adaptec i20 board (model number escapes me ATM) |
| 18:09.38 | bgat | netman1: ... but it is set up for RAID5 |
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| 18:09.48 | mwilson | debian_novice: Or were you asking if you could get support for the *software* via IRC? |
| 18:10.02 | RuiM | I dont have the module ppp_async installed, do I have to add it as a module and recompile the kernel? |
| 18:10.07 | smartbhai | thanx people |
| 18:10.10 | bgat | same machine boots fine with the SMART controller, tho |
| 18:10.11 | milwatts | a cool cdr soft ? :D |
| 18:10.17 | netman1 | bgat: sorry, probably can't help you. Had some problems with formentioned config with grub. |
| 18:10.29 | debian_novice | for the software via IRC |
| 18:10.32 | MacTheNife | can someone give a little help with my ftp prog? I get this failure: "530 Cannot set root directory" googling doesn't give an answer... :-( |
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| 18:10.43 | debian_novice | sorry for not phrasing the question correctly |
| 18:11.03 | milwatts | ppl a cool cdr soft please? |
| 18:11.06 | greycat | you're writing your own ftpd? |
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| 18:11.20 | asg | milwatts: can't beat cdrecord |
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| 18:11.36 | pipeline | milwatts: nautilus-cd-burner and k3b are cdrecord frontends. cdrecord and cdrdao are pretty much it. |
| 18:11.37 | milwatts | asg, thanks once again :D |
| 18:11.43 | pipeline | milwatts: There's also nero for linux. |
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| 18:11.47 | SlimeyPete | milwatts: k3b, using cdrecord |
| 18:11.51 | asg | milwatts: it might not be cool for you, but it sure is cool for me |
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| 18:12.10 | grumpy | does anyone know where screen gets its PS1 from? I have mine defined in .bashrc and it's using my old prompt in screen |
| 18:12.15 | RuiM | I dont have the module ppp_async installed, do I have to add it as a module and recompile the kernel, isnt there another way? |
| 18:12.19 | milwatts | pipeline, nero is $$$ |
| 18:12.22 | caphuso | grumpy: screen doesn't have a PS1 |
| 18:12.30 | pipeline | milwatts: God forbid you pay for something |
| 18:12.36 | greycat | svr1a:/# /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start |
| 18:12.36 | greycat | Exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon... |
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| 18:12.38 | greycat | *hang* |
| 18:12.48 | greycat | why why why why why? :( |
| 18:12.58 | asg | ouch |
| 18:13.01 | grumpy | caphuso: does screen use PS2 for the prompt? |
| 18:13.06 | shaleh | so, guessnet? something else? anyone have a preference? I need it to support wlans |
| 18:13.18 | caphuso | grumpy: screen doesn't have a prompt at all |
| 18:13.26 | caphuso | well, except the one looking like ":" |
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| 18:13.57 | caphuso | grumpy: it's your _shell_ that has a prompt, and if your shell shows the wrong prompt, your shell is misconfigured |
| 18:13.58 | bgat | anyone here booting a machine off an adaptec 3200s RAID controller? |
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| 18:14.02 | greycat | I'm thinking it's a good time to do an unscheduled reboot. |
| 18:14.07 | grumpy | caphuso: so bash is reloading when screen fires up then and is getting the wrong PS1 var? where should PS1 be set "the debian way"? |
| 18:14.12 | asg | grumpy: :) |
| 18:14.19 | asg | s/grumpy/greycat/ |
| 18:14.19 | greycat | !wikifaq grumpy DotFiles |
| 18:14.20 | debian_novice | support for the software via IRC |
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| 18:14.21 | dpkg | grumpy: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 18:14.36 | caphuso | grumpy: from the looks of it, you probably forgot to source your .bashrc in .bash_profile |
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| 18:14.40 | mwilson | grumpy: "the Debian way"? wtf is that supposed to mean? |
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| 18:14.48 | caphuso | or mistakenly told screen to start login shells |
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| 18:15.17 | grumpy | mwilson: well sometimes there's more than one way to skin a cat and I just want to skin 'em like everyone else :) |
| 18:15.38 | greycat | cats are best unskinned, thankyouverymuch |
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| 18:15.47 | pipeline | greycat: Clearly you've never had cat skin soup. |
| 18:15.56 | binbrain | some quick help. whats the debian commend to reconfigure a service |
| 18:16.07 | greycat | binbrain: rcconf is probably what you want |
| 18:16.19 | asg | binbrain: edit service's config files, /etc/init.d/foo reload |
| 18:16.33 | binbrain | no.. there is a dpkg way |
| 18:16.43 | asg | binbrain: dpkg-reconfigure foo |
| 18:16.56 | binbrain | thats what I thought |
| 18:17.00 | binbrain | but it didn't work for apache2 |
| 18:17.09 | asg | binbrain: try apache2-config or apache2-common |
| 18:17.17 | milwatts | pipeline, lol anyway, when there's no pkg in a specific FTP, i comment that line just to apt-get pass to the next one? |
| 18:17.17 | greycat | nothing works with apache2. or rather, apache2 doesn't work properly with anything. |
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| 18:17.28 | greycat | apache2 == moderately Evil. |
| 18:17.35 | asg | greycat: works okay with mod_python, but that's about it |
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| 18:17.43 | p8m | milwatts: nero is a stupid binary with no source |
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| 18:17.52 | p8m | uhh |
| 18:17.57 | p8m | That's to all of you. |
| 18:18.01 | miks | Is anyone here running enlightenment through the debian package 'enlightenment' |
| 18:18.05 | miks | I believe it's e16 |
| 18:18.10 | milwatts | p8m, ? |
| 18:18.28 | milwatts | he has serious problems... |
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| 18:18.49 | asg | milwatts: he's just jibbering like everyone else usually does. |
| 18:18.54 | miks | how can I switch from using GDM to startx? |
| 18:19.04 | asg | miks: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 18:19.04 | milwatts | asg, jibbering? |
| 18:19.08 | miks | asg, thank you |
| 18:19.08 | asg | !jibber |
| 18:19.12 | asg | bah |
| 18:19.16 | asg | !dict jibber |
| 18:19.18 | dpkg | could not find definition for jibber |
| 18:19.25 | milwatts | lol |
| 18:19.33 | milwatts | man i'm not english |
| 18:19.37 | asg | milwatts: /msg dpkg dict gibber |
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| 18:19.43 | milwatts | or american |
| 18:20.05 | Meltir | is the mozilla-firefox package maintainer present ? i just learned of a huge fucking vulnerability.... :( |
| 18:20.23 | asg | Meltir: few maintainers hang out here. Use the mailing lists. |
| 18:20.36 | drac | Meltir: does it have something to do with images? |
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| 18:20.45 | milwatts | asg, To speak rapidly and inarticulately |
| 18:20.45 | Meltir | http://secunia.com/mozilla_products_arbitrary_memory_exposure_test/ |
| 18:20.45 | asg | Meltir: and file a bug against the package. |
| 18:20.51 | asg | milwatts: yes |
| 18:20.58 | e2e | Hi, i've just installed debian/testing and gnome on it, but after a few hours gnome-panel has crashed, i've reinstalled it, removed all .gnome directories but nothing changed, the error says "gnome-panel has quit unexpectedly" with restart application, close buttons, but this buttons don't do anything i can't even close the error window |
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| 18:21.35 | ron_ | Is there some hardware channel where I can ask about passive cooling? |
| 18:21.37 | Meltir | for all those interested - the link above explains the problem. im on sarge - and the bug is very much here |
| 18:21.46 | asg | ron_: #hardware oddly enough |
| 18:21.48 | directhex | ron_, on freenode? i doubt it. try quakenet |
| 18:22.32 | caphuso | Meltir: good. do nothing about it |
| 18:22.32 | ron_ | asg: Well, a channel with somewhat more people. I could try quakenet. |
| 18:22.47 | asg | ron_: did you wait the requisite 10 minutes as specified in their /topic? |
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| 18:22.57 | ron_ | asg: Did that once. Yes |
| 18:23.03 | ron_ | asg: But thatÅ› not today. |
| 18:23.04 | asg | ron_: then quakenet it is |
| 18:23.10 | ron_ | asg: Yes, thx. |
| 18:23.25 | Meltir | caphuso: i didnt say i would do nothing. im hitting the mailing list now. |
| 18:23.30 | caphuso | Meltir: NO! |
| 18:23.35 | caphuso | Meltir: do nothing. |
| 18:23.46 | asg | caphuso: is there already a bug filed on it? |
| 18:23.50 | caphuso | asg: yes, of course |
| 18:23.52 | Meltir | its already threr ? |
| 18:23.55 | asg | caphuso: ah, okay. |
| 18:23.56 | Meltir | oh. ok. |
| 18:23.58 | caphuso | asg: #302775 |
| 18:24.14 | Meltir | caphuso: thx for the info. |
| 18:24.17 | crashbg | i have a question: using sarge, kde 3.2, and when i try to "make xconfig" as root or normal user, i get Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server and qconf error |
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| 18:26.18 | asg | crashbg: just use 'make menuconfig' (after install libncurses5-dev), it will make your life so much easier. |
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| 18:27.03 | TimbrWolf | anyone have any experience using cdrdao to burn data? |
| 18:27.06 | crashbg | my X log gives me: AUDIT: Mon Apr 4 21:22:03 2005: 4666 X: client 31 rejected from local host |
| 18:27.06 | crashbg | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.05 | paulswm | I preferred xconfig to menuconfix, but now with 2.6 I like gconfig better, annoying though it may be to quadruple-click though the boxes sometimes |
| 18:28.15 | paulswm | menucongi |
| 18:28.20 | paulswm | menuconfig |
| 18:28.25 | asg | !give paulswm his meds |
| 18:28.26 | dpkg | give paulswm his meds |
| 18:28.33 | paulswm | !beat paulswm's keyboard |
| 18:28.52 | paulswm | asg: :D |
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| 18:29.36 | asg | joy |
| 18:29.47 | paulswm | hooray |
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| 18:30.22 | citral | w00t |
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| 18:31.32 | redduck666 | http://www.pastebin.com/267045 any help appriciated |
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| 18:32.29 | asg | redduck666: try running ./configure instead of autogen.sh |
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| 18:33.17 | asg | redduck666: oh, and you need a version of evas newer than 0.6.2 (i.e. >1.0.0 as indicated in the error at the bottom.) |
| 18:33.19 | redduck666 | asg, pretty much the same happens. it ends with configure: error: Cannot find evas: Is evas-config in path? |
| 18:33.21 | echobucket | anyone here for evolution-exchange working in sid? |
| 18:33.35 | echobucket | er s/for/got/ |
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| 18:34.04 | redduck666 | asg, doesn't apt-get install the newest version of software? |
| 18:34.18 | asg | redduck666: the newest *packaged* version, 1.0.0 may not be packaged |
| 18:34.20 | TimbrWolf | anyone use cdrdao? |
| 18:34.22 | vork3|zZz | i changed the resolution in my /etc/X11/XF86config-4 and restarted my laptop and now my command-line has all horizontal lines |
| 18:34.23 | Pappa | if there is packages for it. |
| 18:35.08 | redduck666 | asg, thanks |
| 18:35.16 | asg | redduck666: you're welcome |
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| 18:35.19 | Pappa | TimbrWolf: yes. |
| 18:35.43 | redduck666 | asg, :) |
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| 18:36.12 | kickino | hi |
| 18:36.19 | TimbrWolf | Pappa: what is the command to burn a bz2 file to a CD-R? |
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| 18:36.34 | vork3|zZz | i changed the resolution in my /etc/X11/XF86config-4 and restarted my laptop and now my command-line has all horizontal lines on tty1 till tty6 |
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| 18:37.30 | Pappa | TimbrWolf: is it a packaged iso? |
| 18:38.35 | TimbrWolf | Pappa, Do I have to use mkisofs first? |
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| 18:39.00 | Pappa | if it is, then bunzip2 -c foo.bz2 | cdrecord -dao speed=40 dev=ATA:X:X:X driveropts=burnfree -v - |
| 18:39.06 | Pappa | TimbrWolf: yes |
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| 18:39.35 | Pappa | consider using a good gui, like gcombust or k3b |
| 18:39.46 | shocker-z | bash: /bin/su: No such file or directory |
| 18:39.48 | TimbrWolf | once I have an image.iso, how do I burn that to cd? |
| 18:39.49 | shocker-z | any ideas? |
| 18:39.56 | asg | shocker-z: ls -ld /bin/su |
| 18:40.18 | shocker-z | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 23112 Nov 2 19:56 /bin/su |
| 18:40.20 | Pappa | TimbrWolf: cdrecord speed=40 dev=/dev/hdx driveropts=burnfree -v image.iso |
| 18:40.37 | Pappa | try cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus |
| 18:40.42 | asg | shocker-z: what are you running to get the error you pasted above? |
| 18:40.47 | Pappa | find the bus numbers |
| 18:40.52 | shocker-z | just su |
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| 18:41.02 | shocker-z | debian 2.2 kernel |
| 18:41.15 | asg | shocker-z: if you type /bin/su, does it work? |
| 18:41.20 | shocker-z | nope |
| 18:41.28 | TimbrWolf | Pappa, thanks |
| 18:41.28 | shocker-z | its there but says no file or folder :S |
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| 18:41.33 | TimbrWolf | I'll try |
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| 18:41.48 | shocker-z | thats what i dont get :S |
| 18:41.55 | shocker-z | or less its my harddrive thats gone |
| 18:41.57 | asg | shocker-z: have you fscked your drive lately? |
| 18:41.57 | shocker-z | hmm 1sec |
| 18:42.04 | shocker-z | nope |
| 18:42.04 | Pappa | then cdrecord speed=40 dev=ATA:X,x,X driveropts=burnfree -v image.iso |
| 18:42.13 | asg | shocker-z: do you have any odd acls or security patches installed? |
| 18:42.25 | shocker-z | not that i know of |
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| 18:42.47 | shocker-z | hmm vim is uninstalled too :S |
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| 18:42.57 | Pappa | got sudo? |
| 18:43.12 | shocker-z | ahh damn theres the prob |
| 18:43.23 | shocker-z | i really should look at the screen instead of SSH all the time |
| 18:43.36 | asg | shocker-z: ? |
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| 18:44.16 | shocker-z | 1sec just typing up the error |
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| 18:45.55 | Emiml | hmm gluck is up ? |
| 18:46.14 | shocker-z | EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,1)): ext2_readdir: bad entry in directory #311058: rec_len is smaller than minimal - offset=3968, inode=0, rec_len=0, name_len=0 |
| 18:46.27 | Emiml | searching packages through web-interface gives big-mess |
| 18:46.33 | asg | shocker-z: ah |
| 18:46.36 | asg | Emiml: /topic |
| 18:46.53 | asg | Emiml: /msg dpkg search (for other fun alternatives) |
| 18:47.03 | streuner | well, i get an connection to packages.debian.org |
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| 18:47.44 | cheal | wuhu! |
| 18:47.48 | asg | streuner: yeah looks somewhat uppish |
| 18:47.55 | shocker-z | any ideas asg? |
| 18:48.05 | asg | shocker-z: yeah, fsck that file system first. |
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| 18:48.09 | Emiml | asg: I'm wondering about re-sending my bug-reports |
| 18:48.14 | shocker-z | ok how i run that? |
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| 18:48.29 | shocker-z | sorry im very rusty dont play bout with it much any more |
| 18:48.36 | asg | shocker-z: touch /forcefsck ; /sbin/reboot ; follow instructions when you get to the single user root shell |
| 18:48.40 | cheal | Emiml: what kind of mess? |
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| 18:48.50 | asg | Emiml: why? |
| 18:48.56 | cheal | Emiml: AFAIK bugs.d.o didn't have problems |
| 18:49.10 | shocker-z | blucode:~# touch /forcefsck |
| 18:49.10 | shocker-z | bash: /usr/bin/touch: No such file or directory |
| 18:49.14 | asg | Emiml: also, sane mtas will queue mail that cannot be delivered for a few days |
| 18:49.17 | shocker-z | i think the drive could be dead |
| 18:49.33 | asg | shocker-z: or the filesystem is severely foobed. |
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| 18:49.42 | shocker-z | yup |
| 18:49.50 | shocker-z | i only just reinstalled it the other week |
| 18:49.51 | TimbrWolf | Pappa: that worked. thanks again |
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| 18:50.10 | shocker-z | because it lost sector 0 of boot partition :| |
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| 18:50.16 | shocker-z | had simular errors |
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| 18:50.33 | asg | shocker-z: try /sbin/reboot (just curious) and then use 'linux single' at the lilo prompt |
| 18:50.51 | shocker-z | bash: /sbin/reboot: No such file or directory |
| 18:51.26 | Emiml | cheal: like this http://emiml.ath.cx/error.png |
| 18:52.11 | asg | shocker-z: well, try CTRL+ALT+DEL (though might work.) Otherwise, just power it off. (also, do '> /forcefsck' first) |
| 18:52.17 | cheal | Emiml: ugh...I get that too |
| 18:52.37 | shocker-z | hmm worried it wont start back up :( |
| 18:52.47 | shocker-z | might have to do it anoither day, got alot on tonight |
| 18:52.52 | asg | shocker-z: well, it isn't going to work well at all in the state it is in. |
| 18:52.57 | mutante | i would like to "dpkg --get-selections > backupfile" but i have a read-only fs due to broken hd or fs, can i "pipe" the output over ssh somehow? execute the command locally but write the file elsewhere? |
| 18:53.24 | jetscreamer | write to floppy or ramdisk? |
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| 18:53.42 | asg | mutante: ( ssh me@brokenbox dpkg --get-selections ) > ~/backup.txt |
| 18:53.47 | mutante | well, "locally" was wrong, its a rented remote server |
| 18:53.49 | jetscreamer | scp is the term btw |
| 18:53.57 | mutante | thanks asg |
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| 18:54.24 | jharrisonwk | scp rules |
| 18:54.35 | shocker-z | asg, got servers that i host on it for other people so need ot warn them first |
| 18:54.36 | mwilson | jetscreamer: No, scp is not the term. |
| 18:54.41 | e2e | Hi, i want to remove gnome with all of it's packages, is there a way to do this, i've tried to remove packages manualy, but it gives a lots of dependency problem |
| 18:54.45 | mwilson | jetscreamer: Note his desire to pipe the data. |
| 18:54.46 | shocker-z | plus goin pub soon :) |
| 18:54.49 | harfooz | hi all. I have a Debian Sid fresh installation that is config'd to print to an HP 8150 on a windows network using Samba. I can lpr files to it and test pages print fine. However, I can't get anything from openoffice to print. |
| 18:54.51 | directhex | !remove gnome |
| 18:54.52 | dpkg | methinks remove gnome is apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome") |
| 18:54.54 | mwilson | jetscreamer: netcat is what he wants. |
| 18:54.56 | asg | shocker-z: yeah. |
| 18:54.59 | shocker-z | lol |
| 18:55.05 | shocker-z | important things first :P |
| 18:55.15 | directhex | e2e, what does " tried to remove packages manualy" mean? |
| 18:55.18 | harfooz | I've printed a test page from the OpenOffice printer admin utility and that prints fine also, but from oowriter, etc. I can't print. |
| 18:55.28 | shocker-z | tanx for your help and that, probs see me back in in a day or so |
| 18:55.33 | e2e | directhex: I mean dpkg -P gnome gnome-panel, gnome-core etc |
| 18:55.48 | directhex | !tell e2e about remove gnome |
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| 18:56.19 | mwilson | harfooz: "can't" is non-descriptive. Can you actually provide some details? |
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| 18:56.42 | harfooz | mwilson, when I click on the print icon while in OO, nothing prints. |
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| 18:56.56 | harfooz | no errors are reported, and the test page prints properly. |
| 18:57.06 | harfooz | I can print from lpr also. |
| 18:57.16 | mwilson | harfooz: What printing system are you using? |
| 18:57.21 | harfooz | cups |
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| 18:57.48 | mwilson | When OOo tries to print, what messages are logged? |
| 18:57.55 | harfooz | let me check. |
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| 18:58.45 | asg | greycat: svr1a didn't come up? |
| 18:59.16 | harfooz | mwilson, would that be in /var/log/messages or does oo put them elsewhere? |
| 18:59.29 | greycat | asg: it came up, but there was about a 5-10 minute delay during NFS server startup at boot time. I have *no* idea why. |
| 18:59.38 | valdyn_ | harfooz: do you have cupsys-bsd installed? |
| 18:59.38 | asg | greycat: ah |
| 18:59.41 | mwilson | OOo wouldn't put them anywhere. I'm asking you what CUPS loggs. |
| 18:59.42 | harfooz | yes |
| 18:59.54 | greycat | asg: then, all the machine in one particular area needed to be manually ypset back to svr1a because I don't have an NFS slave server on that network segment yet. |
| 19:00.01 | mwilson | For example --> localhost - - [04/Apr/2005:11:59:09 -0700] "POST /printers/laser HTTP/1.1" 200 13692 |
| 19:00.09 | harfooz | let me check. |
| 19:00.12 | mwilson | When OOo prints to our shared laser |
| 19:00.14 | greycat | asg: and when I came back to my desk, I'd lost my ssh connection to my home computer. Reason also unknown. |
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| 19:00.43 | asg | greycat: not a good batting average today it seems. |
| 19:00.46 | greycat | s/NFS slave/NIS slave/ |
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| 19:01.11 | mwilson | harfooz: Both access_log and error_log |
| 19:01.20 | greycat | asg: current theory being offered by my coworkers is that it's the Mafia's attempt to control the next Papal election. |
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| 19:02.13 | harfooz | mwilson, at http://localhost:631 under Jobs, it shows all those OO print jobs as "complete" |
| 19:02.22 | mwilson | harfooz: That's not what I asked you. |
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| 19:02.41 | mwilson | harfooz: I asked you what CUPS logs. |
| 19:04.33 | harfooz | htp://www.pastebin.com/267065 |
| 19:04.51 | harfooz | http://www.pastebin.com/267065 |
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| 19:06.20 | harfooz | http://www.pastebin.com/267066 |
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| 19:06.52 | harfooz | mwilson, does that help? |
| 19:07.31 | mwilson | Hm, restart cupsd with debug turned on is what I'd do. |
| 19:08.54 | mwilson | You're not getting enough information. |
| 19:09.22 | valdyn_ | harfooz: does "grep HINT /var/log/cups/error_log" show anything? |
| 19:09.23 | mwilson | jetscreamer: Regarding? |
| 19:09.31 | harfooz | let me check. |
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| 19:09.46 | jetscreamer | <mwilson> jetscreamer: netcat is what he wants. |
| 19:10.07 | jetscreamer | hey i'm slow |
| 19:10.09 | valdyn_ | harfooz: ( thats just for tracking common errors that cups "knows" about ) |
| 19:10.12 | mwilson | harfooz: You said you can print from the command-line. To the same SMB-shared printer? |
| 19:10.18 | harfooz | yes |
| 19:10.37 | harfooz | all other apps (abiword, gnumeric,etc.) will print as well as printing from firefox. |
| 19:10.42 | harfooz | to the same shared printer. |
| 19:10.43 | mwilson | harfooz: Print *what*? ASCII text, or Postscript, or what? |
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| 19:11.00 | harfooz | plain text, graphics, web pages, .pdf's -- everything. |
| 19:11.00 | mwilson | Hm. |
| 19:11.12 | harfooz | just can't print from within openoffice. |
| 19:11.26 | mwilson | File >> Print ... does OOo know what the default printer is? |
| 19:11.34 | ongeboren | hi, how do I send e-mails from the command prompt with this default debian unstable installation? there is no "sendmail" command.. |
| 19:11.35 | valdyn_ | harfooz: oo should offer you several printers |
| 19:11.37 | jetscreamer | does oo want java in linux as well as windows? |
| 19:11.49 | mwilson | valdyn_: If he HAS several printers. |
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| 19:12.04 | mwilson | ongeboren: man mail |
| 19:12.40 | valdyn_ | mwilson: he does have "several" by some definition, a bsd spool and cups |
| 19:12.57 | harfooz | only have the one shared printer. |
| 19:13.11 | mwilson | valdyn_: If he said he had a BSD spool, I missed it. |
| 19:13.20 | mwilson | harfooz: You're not actually running two printing daemons, are you? |
| 19:13.30 | valdyn_ | mwilson: ah, he said he had installed cupsys-bsd, i thought |
| 19:13.50 | mwilson | valdyn_: cupsys-bsd by default does not start a second daemon, it submits directly to CUPS. |
| 19:13.51 | harfooz | I don't know. I thought cups was the only thing I had on here. I |
| 19:14.00 | harfooz | likley don't understand how to find out. |
| 19:14.03 | ongeboren | mwilson, ah sure.. thanks. can I use libraries for it with perl scripts, or should I just make `commands` ? |
| 19:14.08 | valdyn_ | mwilson: sure, agreed, but oo would show both probably |
| 19:14.22 | harfooz | valdyn_, oo is only showing the one printer. |
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| 19:14.44 | mwilson | ongeboren: There are perl libraries to send mail directly. You asked how to do it from the command line, not how to send mail from perl. |
| 19:14.56 | mwilson | ongeboren: Having said that, sure, you can use system() if you like. |
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| 19:15.10 | serialkiller | hello! |
| 19:15.22 | serialkiller | anyone around today? |
| 19:15.30 | mwilson | harfooz: Restart cupsd in debug mode. You'll get a ton more information and perhaps we can figure out what's being sent to the backend. |
| 19:15.39 | harfooz | ok |
| 19:15.40 | cheal | serialkiller: no, we're all hiding from you |
| 19:15.42 | mwilson | harfooz: What *is* the shared printer, by the way? |
| 19:15.49 | harfooz | HP 8150 |
| 19:15.52 | harfooz | laserjet |
| 19:15.52 | mwilson | Hm |
| 19:15.59 | mwilson | I know what an 8150 is. |
| 19:16.01 | serialkiller | lol |
| 19:16.04 | mwilson | Good, it's a real PS device. |
| 19:16.08 | streuner | serialkiller: what kind of irc-client do you have? |
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| 19:16.29 | mwilson | I wonder if what's actually going on is that OOo is producing PS that the printer can't render. |
| 19:16.38 | mwilson | Debug will help with that. |
| 19:16.40 | Lwolf | hi people, i need some help : i'm trying to configure exim4 and spamd, i've found some tips on exim4 wiki, but then, spamc crash.. as first guesss, it's been due to a bug in spamd/ spamc which has been solved.. but is not in sarge repository.... does someone have a tip about this ? |
| 19:16.47 | serialkiller | i have a compaq prosigna 300 scsi box, can anyone point to a good howto to install debian on it? Mirc streuner |
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| 19:17.03 | serialkiller | i have googled for it alday |
| 19:17.17 | serialkiller | and i am using debian sarge installer |
| 19:17.17 | mwilson | :) |
| 19:17.18 | cheal | Lwolf: is it in sid? |
| 19:17.18 | streuner | serialkiller: so you haven't an pysical connection to it? |
| 19:17.29 | harfooz | heh |
| 19:17.30 | Lwolf | cheal, no , it is not |
| 19:17.33 | serialkiller | streuner ? The box? |
| 19:17.34 | streuner | serialkiller: Oh |
| 19:17.39 | streuner | serialkiller: yes |
| 19:17.40 | ongeboren | mwilson, I will need perl to send mails and process /var/mail/myuser .. I'm not sure by which means to implement this best. Could you propose some packages that might be useful? |
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| 19:17.50 | serialkiller | yea opn the floor beside me |
| 19:17.59 | mwilson | ongeboren: Nope. I'm in no way a perl programmer. I suggest you ask in #perl. |
| 19:18.13 | ongeboren | ok, thanks |
| 19:18.21 | Lwolf | serialkiller, linux24 is your friend, i've experienced bad things with sarge 2.6 and scsi |
| 19:18.23 | streuner | serialkiller: so what's the problem then? |
| 19:18.27 | harfooz | mwilson: is the proper way to do the restart in debug mode: /etc/init.d/cupsys restart -d? |
| 19:18.39 | harfooz | (I've never run a service in debug mode before) |
| 19:18.43 | serialkiller | when i load the cdrom and press enter at boot it gives kernel panic, when i type linux 26 it hangs at the found compressed image 0 bllaa |
| 19:18.45 | serialkiller | no go past |
| 19:19.12 | streuner | serialkiller: did you use md5sum to verify the iso? |
| 19:19.16 | valdyn_ | harfooz: does "lpr <something>" work btw? |
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| 19:19.34 | serialkiller | no, but i know its good. i have done other installs before with this very same cd |
| 19:19.41 | harfooz | valdyn_, yes I can lpr filename and printing works as expected. |
| 19:19.45 | serialkiller | and it has no scratches |
| 19:20.00 | mwilson | harfooz: Edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, search for Loglevel, change it from 'info' to 'debug', then restart the daemon. |
| 19:20.07 | harfooz | ok |
| 19:20.07 | Lwolf | serialkiller, look at F2 -> F8 boots help on cd |
| 19:20.08 | LaVey | evenin all |
| 19:20.11 | mwilson | harfooz: Hm, before that... |
| 19:20.27 | serialkiller | Lwolf : ok.. |
| 19:20.28 | Lwolf | serialkiller, you will perhaps find some tips to help you on scsi boot |
| 19:20.31 | cheal | Lwolf: is it fixed in exim's CVS? |
| 19:20.32 | redduck666 | i would like to extract /home/redduck666/ecore-1.0.0_pre7.tar.gz to /home/redduck666/downloads/ecore. tar zxpf /home/redduck666/downloads/ecore /home/redduck666/ecore-1.0.0_pre7.tar.gz doesn't seem to work any ideas? |
| 19:20.34 | mwilson | Before you go to the trouble of editing the file... have OOo print to a file, send the file to the printer with lp. |
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| 19:20.50 | LaVey | how would i go about removing some drivers i just installed ? |
| 19:20.51 | Lwolf | cheal, it's not exim problem, it's spamd one if i remember wel |
| 19:21.00 | Lwolf | well |
| 19:21.14 | redduck666 | LaVey, you can remove modules by doing modprobe -r |
| 19:21.26 | redduck666 | LaVey, or rmmod |
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| 19:21.51 | redduck666 | LaVey, or rm -rf /path/to/file.ko |
| 19:22.04 | harfooz | mwilson, I selected save as file, and gave it a name, then opened the file with gv. I'm sending it to the printer now from gv. |
| 19:22.10 | LaVey | cheerz |
| 19:22.13 | harfooz | brb (running to the printer office) |
| 19:22.14 | mwilson | No, that's not what I asked you to do. |
| 19:22.22 | redduck666 | LaVey, np |
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| 19:22.30 | mwilson | I was quite specific. |
| 19:23.21 | mwilson | Great... let's introduce ANOTHER variable... |
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| 19:23.22 | cheal | Lwolf: sorry. so...is it fixed in spamassasin's CVS? |
| 19:23.51 | Lwolf | Lwolf, as far as i've guessed |
| 19:23.51 | Thaiger | Can anyone help me with my sound? The driver is compiled into the kernel, I've been using this kernel for a while and sound has functioned now xmms and other programs will act like they're playing but I get no audio. I tried to cat a file to /dev/dsp still no sound. Also I did check to make sure everything is pluggin in properly, any advice? |
| 19:23.51 | Lwolf | cheal, as far as i've guessed |
| 19:23.51 | Thaiger | s/pluggin/plugged in |
| 19:23.51 | mwilson | Thaiger: Sure. Check again. |
| 19:23.53 | harfooz | mwilson, back now. oddly there were two copies there, which makes me wonder if the fresh restart of cups actually did something. |
| 19:23.57 | mwilson | Thaiger: Unmute everything. |
| 19:24.03 | redduck666 | Thaiger, try alsaconf |
| 19:24.14 | mwilson | redduck666: You assume he's using ALSA. |
| 19:24.43 | Bac9 | Thaiger: did you start a sound daemon or something else that's using /dev/dsp and blocking other programs from using it? |
| 19:24.50 | redduck666 | mwilson, my bad |
| 19:24.50 | Bac9 | mwilson: that's not really a helpfull answer |
| 19:24.52 | anhi | how can i stop a running X on :1 without killing :0 ? i started an X on :1 without wm due to a scripting error |
| 19:24.55 | cahoot | redduck666: the reference to /dev/dsp points otherwise |
| 19:25.09 | Thaiger | mwilson: Thanks I checked all the more complicated thing, but a quick check of kmix shows its muted ^_^ |
| 19:25.11 | Thaiger | Thanks |
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| 19:25.17 | cheal | Lwolf: so what kind of help do you want? |
| 19:25.23 | lidocaine | a bunch of us printed up these stickers to put on our debian/sparc boxes. is this wrong? http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007J8C7.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg |
| 19:25.24 | greycat | anhi: ctrl-alt-Fwhatver over to it and press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace |
| 19:25.28 | mwilson | Typical KDE user. |
| 19:25.30 | harfooz | mwilson -- oo is printing now. so something was up with cups that a restart fixed. |
| 19:25.34 | Bac9 | Anders1: kill what ever app is not alowing it to finish ~/.xsession |
| 19:25.36 | Thaiger | mwilson: Me? I don't use kde |
| 19:25.46 | mwilson | harfooz: Well, you can turn off debug, then. |
| 19:25.51 | Thaiger | It was just the first mixer prog I could think of |
| 19:26.00 | k-dog | I'm trying to get XDMCP working and it won't. It *is* running (tried kdm, now doing wdm), I can see query traffic w/ tcpdump -i any port 177. Error message is ... give it a minute, but basically along the lines of "can't open display" |
| 19:26.05 | anhi | greycat: ah, thanks, thought that would kill the whole X (like with double backspace) |
| 19:26.06 | mwilson | Thaiger: Why do you have it installed, then? |
| 19:26.11 | k-dog | Currently testing w/ Xnest on localhost. |
| 19:26.14 | Lwolf | cheal, well, is there someone here that have a working configuration with spamassassin and exim4 on sarge, and who can give me some configuration tip ? (sorry for that misunderstanding ;) |
| 19:26.18 | Thaiger | because KDE is installed, but I use fluxbox |
| 19:26.20 | harfooz | thanks for working with me to help get it working! |
| 19:26.27 | mwilson | harfooz: np |
| 19:26.31 | k-dog | XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 511536011 failed for display vhs-b3-10.vhs-stu-domain.nvusd.k12.ca.us:1: Cannot open display |
| 19:26.32 | cheal | Lwolf: not me... |
| 19:26.34 | greycat | lidocaine: uh, why does it say Solaris on it, if it's going on a Debian box? |
| 19:26.44 | redduck666 | i would like to extract /home/redduck666/ecore-1.0.0_pre7.tar.gz to /home/redduck666/downloads/ecore. tar zxpf /home/redduck666/downloads/ecore /home/redduck666/ecore-1.0.0_pre7.tar.gz doesn't seem to work any ideas? |
| 19:26.45 | lidocaine | well they used to be solaris boxes :P |
| 19:26.51 | Lwolf | cheal, sob sob ;) thanx anyway ;) |
| 19:27.07 | Bac9 | lidocaine: I am told the original is much better |
| 19:27.08 | mwilson | Thaiger: Even more typical fluxcrap user. |
| 19:27.39 | Thaiger | mwilson: Regardless of sterotypes, I appreciate the help, I'd like to leave it at that |
| 19:27.44 | redduck666 | mwilson, may i ask what/if you use any window manager? |
| 19:27.52 | De_Mon | how do i create a diff from <original> to <new> that does not delete <original> files that are not in <new>, but adds files that are in <new>? |
| 19:27.54 | k-dog | redduck666: Wrong order. Archive first, then file |
| 19:27.57 | mwilson | harfooz: I've had CUPS on debug for over a week... I keep having the backend exit. |
| 19:27.59 | lidocaine | Bac9: haha. the new one's not bad actually. way different though. i just like seeing vistors' reactions to the sticker, as if sun is trying to get all sexy now. |
| 19:28.05 | k-dog | redduck666: ...or use mc and navigate within the archive. |
| 19:28.10 | redduck666 | k-dog, will try thanks |
| 19:28.13 | mwilson | harfooz: Now that I've got it on debug, it hasn't happened since. :( |
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| 19:28.15 | dwu | why wont xset fp+ /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType add the path |
| 19:28.16 | Bac9 | lidocaine: I am talking about the movie |
| 19:28.20 | harfooz | hmm.. |
| 19:28.21 | dwu | xset q doesnt see it |
| 19:28.24 | k-dog | redduck666: tar xzvf <archive> <filelist> |
| 19:28.39 | De_Mon | I want to add files from new but not delete files that arn't in new... |
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| 19:28.51 | dwu | god damn X .. wtf is wrong with it!! GRRR |
| 19:28.51 | luulis | redduck666: cd /home/redduck666/downloads/ecore; tar xzpf /home/redduck666/ecore-1.0.0_pre7.tar.gz |
| 19:28.52 | lidocaine | Bac9: yeah, the original tarch film was really cool. the soderbergh wasn't as good, but not bad either. |
| 19:29.14 | mwilson | redduck666: It varies according to my mood. |
| 19:29.16 | Bac9 | lidocaine: if you say so |
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| 19:29.26 | mwilson | redduck666: And which box I'm talking to. |
| 19:29.28 | grumpy | Thaiger: I saw a program when I was looking through arts docs the other day it's called artsdsp I think and you can use it to run programs that need to circumvent artsd which is probably your problem, try running xmms like this 'artsdsp xmms' and see if you get sound that way |
| 19:29.44 | Bac9 | lidocaine: may I assume then that you're not a native english speaker? |
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| 19:30.07 | grumpy | Thaiger: you could also ps aux | grep artsd and make sure artsd is even running but it's the kde sound system and odds are if kmix is working it's running |
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| 19:30.25 | Bac9 | grumpy: artsdsp is not to circumvent artsd, it's to utilize artsd |
| 19:30.28 | Sebas_ | iam trying to delete a lot of files, but when i execute rm -f * the command show me the message: The argument list is too long, do you I know how to resolve this problem? |
| 19:30.38 | mwilson | When did kmix start caring about artsd? |
| 19:30.39 | grumpy | Bac9: I stand corrected :) |
| 19:30.51 | mwilson | Sebas_: Sure. Do it in pieces. |
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| 19:31.07 | luulis | Sebas_: you could for example do for i in *;do rm -f "$i";done |
| 19:31.08 | Bac9 | Sebas_: delete less files, e.g. rm a*;rm b*;rm c*;etc |
| 19:31.16 | stew | Sebas_: ls | xargs rm -f |
| 19:31.16 | grumpy | and maybe kmix doesn't care about artsd, but artsdsp is still worth a shot, can't hurt |
| 19:31.26 | Sebas_ | thanks! |
| 19:31.36 | valdyn_ | Sebas: cd ../ && rm -rf <that |
| 19:31.38 | Bac9 | luulis: that'll give you same problem for 'for' |
| 19:31.48 | valdyn_ | Sebas: cd ../ && rm -rf <directory> |
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| 19:32.25 | Sebas_ | thanks! |
| 19:33.02 | De_Mon | ahh I was using -ruN --unidirectional-new-file, removing N did it |
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| 19:33.48 | Tourinho | hello all.. Im getting kernel panic with scsi lsi 53c1030 |
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| 19:34.11 | Tourinho | does anyone know it is supported by kernel 2.6.? |
| 19:34.11 | k-dog | Sebas_: man xargs |
| 19:34.11 | k-dog | Sebas_: ...or delete the directory instead of the filelist |
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| 19:41.53 | McCabe | hello |
| 19:42.21 | mwilson | Tourinho: Does anyone get to know the actual error you see? |
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| 19:42.26 | startxblack | i quite like bb aalib demo,can anyone recommend me a similar portable demo? |
| 19:43.08 | greycat | mwilson: what, you can't just read it from his mind? |
| 19:43.23 | greycat | mwilson: it's people like you that make Debian fail to grow!!!1 |
| 19:43.25 | Bac9 | mwilson: the world is one big conspiracy to drive you insane, and it's almost there :-) |
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| 19:44.00 | A-z-i-z | how do i check if my sound card has been detected ? |
| 19:44.07 | greycat | A-z-i-z: try to play sound |
| 19:44.12 | Ronin | play a mp3 |
| 19:44.20 | dvs | A-z-i-z: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 19:44.23 | greycat | dmesg(8) is also helpful |
| 19:45.31 | A-z-i-z | debian:/home/aziz# cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 19:45.32 | A-z-i-z | -su: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy |
| 19:45.47 | k-dog | dvs: That wastes entropy. Use kernel instead. |
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| 19:46.04 | dvs | k-dog: Wastes entropy? |
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| 19:46.35 | k-dog | dvs: Yes. Entropy is required for certain processes, mostly crypto. |
| 19:46.40 | foobared | k-dog: it was urandom, not random |
| 19:46.43 | greycat | A-z-i-z: lsof /dev/dsp |
| 19:46.44 | k-dog | dvs: High quality randomness. |
| 19:47.04 | k-dog | foobared: man urandom. It's still not a good idea to go hitting it unnecessarially. |
| 19:47.07 | LaVey | does sarge include orinoco drivers ? |
| 19:47.11 | LaVey | >>The 2.6 kernel tree began to include the Orinoco 0.13e driver |
| 19:47.32 | mwilson | LaVey: Well, then you've answered your own question, haven't you? |
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| 19:47.40 | k-dog | LaVey: apt-file should tell you. |
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| 19:48.05 | A-z-i-z | lsof /dev/dsp |
| 19:48.06 | A-z-i-z | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 19:48.06 | A-z-i-z | esd 9330 aziz 5w CHR 14,3 672802 /dev/dsp |
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| 19:48.12 | wiz | If you apply a physical shock to an lcd monitor.... is it typical for the breakage to be the display being tinted yellow? |
| 19:48.12 | greycat | !pal A-z-i-z |
| 19:48.14 | dvs | Esound daemon |
| 19:48.18 | Tourinho | mwilson : getting kernel panic "uname to mount root on unknow-block (0,0)" |
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| 19:48.35 | Mash | bye |
| 19:48.40 | mwilson | wiz: Why not? |
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| 19:48.54 | wiz | mwilson: darn, I was hoping someone would say "No! Never" |
| 19:49.03 | Di``` | directhex: are you there ? |
| 19:49.04 | greycat | No! Never |
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| 19:49.06 | A-z-i-z | greycat: what |
| 19:49.07 | greycat | what are we talking about? |
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| 19:49.16 | greycat | A-z-i-z: you run gnome, and gnome is running esd, and therefore You Lose. |
| 19:49.17 | wiz | mwilson: walking by my desk when I got up I hit the monitor with my knee pretty hard, now its tinted yellow :( |
| 19:49.20 | mwilson | wiz: You want to verify, of course, that the video being output isn't *actually* tinted yellow. |
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| 19:49.24 | LaVey | ok.. so i got orinoco drivers already present.. is probnably why the patch dosent work |
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| 19:49.28 | greycat | A-z-i-z: esd is the worst piece of shit in gnome, and that's saying quite a bit. |
| 19:49.42 | k-dog | wiz: Adjust the cable in back, might have a loose connection. |
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| 19:49.48 | mwilson | wiz: And that the cable is properly attached, and etc. |
| 19:49.50 | wiz | k-dog: Tried that first |
| 19:49.55 | k-dog | wiz: ...or use percussive maintenance on the monitor. |
| 19:49.57 | aFlag | is there a runlevel for when i want to start the system without loading gdm? |
| 19:50.08 | k-dog | aFlag: Single |
| 19:50.09 | mwilson | aFlag: No. |
| 19:50.10 | greycat | aFlag: only if you create one |
| 19:50.16 | k-dog | !tell aFlag about xdm |
| 19:50.16 | greycat | k-dog: point. |
| 19:50.32 | aFlag | hum, i may create a runlevel of my own? |
| 19:50.33 | wiz | mwilson, k-dog: thanks guys, was hoping I was wrong heh |
| 19:50.39 | LaVey | so how would i overwrite the 0.13 drivers with the new 0.15 driver ? |
| 19:50.40 | wiz | time to get a new 20" |
| 19:50.49 | greycat | aFlag: yes. run levels 2-5 are all the same, but you may configure them however you wish |
| 19:50.55 | k-dog | wiz: ...or buy rose-colored glasses |
| 19:51.02 | wiz | lol |
| 19:51.11 | wiz | would rose make the yellow tint go away? |
| 19:51.12 | Bac9 | greycat: esd has it's uses, now that they pulled nas from debian esd is really the only network worth alternative (untill they get jack up to speed) |
| 19:51.14 | alizee | ;) |
| 19:51.32 | aFlag | greycat, good to know, thanks :) |
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| 19:52.13 | LaVey | can the orinoco drivers be removed ? |
| 19:52.15 | k-dog | wiz: actually, the problem is you've lost your blue gun. So you can't really color-correct (you can't subtract to fix a missing hue) |
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| 19:52.28 | k-dog | wiz: ...best you can do is correct to B&W |
| 19:52.39 | mwilson | k-dog: What gun? LCD, remember? |
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| 19:52.57 | k-dog | mwilson: Missed that. |
| 19:53.06 | Di``` | guys, debian woody kernel 2.6 see the array that promise create in the bios and works very FINE. Why debian sarge dont works ??? |
| 19:53.16 | wiz | mwilson: real quick before I go, what would break in an lcd to cause tint like this? |
| 19:53.17 | Di``` | are you there directhex? |
| 19:53.23 | directhex | woody doesn't have any 2.6 kernels. |
| 19:53.30 | Bac9 | wiz: check your cables |
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| 19:53.38 | k-dog | wiz: Physical connector. Occam's razor says it's one of the input pins. |
| 19:53.42 | mwilson | wiz: The blue input lead on the connector. |
| 19:53.45 | greycat | !custom d-i |
| 19:53.45 | dpkg | methinks custom d-i is http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt |
| 19:53.51 | greycat | have at it. |
| 19:53.54 | wiz | So replacing the cable should help probably |
| 19:53.56 | dvs | directhex: Not be default anyways. |
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| 19:54.06 | greycat | dvs: it can't *support* 2.6.x kernels. |
| 19:54.10 | greycat | dvs: /msg dpkg bunk 2.6 |
| 19:54.22 | wiz | thanks mwilson and everyone else ;) |
| 19:54.22 | directhex | woody cannot use a modular 2.6 kernel, not without extra crap of unknown security |
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| 19:54.49 | k-dog | wiz: Could be a lead on the inside of the connector as well, or a blue channel in the hardware elsewhere on the monitor. |
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| 19:55.10 | einsteinmg | wherer to start user-daemons under debian? |
| 19:55.14 | Overand | k-dog: i was about to say that, but he went away |
| 19:55.22 | greycat | einsteinmg: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 19:55.22 | mwilson | Or the computer could just be outputting it that way... check with another monitor to be sure. |
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| 19:56.38 | Di``` | directhex: sorry...i think that who give me the information is crazy....sorry . |
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| 19:57.18 | directhex | Di```, woody with a 2.4 kernel and highpoint's binary driver will see the array, as i told you twice at least. |
| 19:57.19 | irpf | What's the best way to up the firewall? - By network/interfaces with the up keyword - By a init.d script -by... |
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| 19:57.42 | dvs | iris: apt-get install ipmasq |
| 19:57.49 | dvs | irpf: apt-get install ipmasq |
| 19:57.57 | k-dog | irpf: I like shorewall myself. |
| 19:58.27 | irpf | k-dog: what's the way that shorewall uses? |
| 19:58.28 | HeavyD | How can I change the refresh rate of my desktop to 85 hz if my install doesn't think it will support it at this resolution, even though it will? |
| 19:58.51 | xukun_ | anybody using GeForce4 440 Go card with nvidia drivers? |
| 19:59.20 | HeavyD | anybody? |
| 19:59.20 | solomonn | HeavyD: learn how to use modelines, makes sure you know what you're doing before you play with them so you don't blow up your monitor and send shards of glass into your eye sockets or whatever |
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| 19:59.38 | solomonn | HeavyD: (google) |
| 19:59.55 | HeavyD | solomonn: :P Do you think I woulda came on here if I wouldve found it on google |
| 20:00.10 | solomonn | HeavyD: well now you know to search on google for modelines :P |
| 20:00.37 | solomonn | HeavyD: learn how to use them and you'll be set |
| 20:00.41 | Di``` | directhex: i want kill the guys of promise company |
| 20:00.55 | solomonn | e.g. PQI? |
| 20:01.16 | directhex | Di```, you're the one with a software raid chip, if you didn't do any research before buying it that's your perrogative |
| 20:01.16 | aFlag | how do i pass a runlevel as a kernel parameter? |
| 20:01.17 | dvs | Di```: I agree. Just release the damn drivers for Linux |
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| 20:02.13 | greycat | aFlag: last argument on the kernel boot param line |
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| 20:02.24 | aFlag | just write the number? |
| 20:02.28 | HeavyD | solomonn: Thanks, appreciated. |
| 20:02.34 | kuru | do I need an initrd.img with my new kernel? |
| 20:02.36 | kuru | it doesn't produce one |
| 20:02.44 | irpf | I use iptables... i need a way to up the rules as soon as possible... what's the best way |
| 20:02.46 | directhex | !wayc |
| 20:02.48 | startxblack | how can i convert from uppercase to lowercase all the subdirs and files of a directory without perl? |
| 20:02.50 | dvs | kuru: Did you compile it yourself? |
| 20:02.53 | directhex | !wayc kuru |
| 20:02.54 | dpkg | kuru: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
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| 20:03.11 | Di``` | directhex: yes, i know....this my wrong |
| 20:03.17 | Di``` | dvs: :) |
| 20:03.24 | kuru | directhex, because it needs to be customized? |
| 20:03.36 | dvs | kuru: Why? |
| 20:03.36 | directhex | kuru, it does? |
| 20:03.41 | kuru | i need a kernel that supports over 1gb of ram |
| 20:03.44 | p8m | To add the racing stripe, dub |
| 20:03.47 | kuru | most kernels i've seen don't |
| 20:03.56 | Overand | i'm pretty sure debian kernels do |
| 20:03.59 | kuru | and it's not a 'module' to load or unload |
| 20:04.02 | gilles | What package do I need to be able to use JSP ? |
| 20:04.03 | kuru | Overand, no they don't |
| 20:04.07 | Overand | in fact, i'm almost 100% certain they do |
| 20:04.10 | kuru | Overand, not the one I got |
| 20:04.13 | Overand | let me boot up one of my > 1 gig boxes |
| 20:04.17 | directhex | gilles, apache tomcat, and sun java |
| 20:04.18 | Overand | and i'll tell you |
| 20:04.20 | Di``` | directhex: how much is a good hardware raid ? |
| 20:04.32 | directhex | Di```, few hundred. check 3ware.com |
| 20:04.38 | Overand | 3ware is outdated |
| 20:04.48 | Overand | all their SATA raid cards use PATA->SATA bridge chips |
| 20:04.51 | dvs | kuru: Which kernel were you using? |
| 20:04.56 | Overand | and they only have *one* card with cache onboard |
| 20:05.02 | kuo | SATA sucks anyway |
| 20:05.05 | gilles | directhex: apache works already, but what the exact name of other packages I need ? |
| 20:05.10 | kuru | dvs, kernel-image-2.6.7-1-386 |
| 20:05.12 | directhex | kuo, on what basis? |
| 20:05.18 | Overand | kuo: back that statement up |
| 20:05.21 | directhex | gilles, erm... what does apache have to do with tomcat? |
| 20:05.23 | dvs | kuru: For sarge? That's old! |
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| 20:05.29 | kuru | dvs, duh |
| 20:05.32 | kuru | ;) |
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| 20:05.44 | kuo | its weak, unreliable, and generate lots of EM HF noise |
| 20:05.44 | dvs | kuru: Sarge has 2.6.8. |
| 20:05.48 | kuru | dvs, not that old.. this is a production level server.. we don't upgrade every day |
| 20:05.51 | Overand | ok dvs |
| 20:05.56 | dvs | kuru: Ok. |
| 20:06.00 | Overand | i'm on a 2.4 kernel on this box, and even THAT supports > 1 gig |
| 20:06.06 | Overand | oh, i take that back |
| 20:06.08 | Overand | 2.6.7 |
| 20:06.10 | Overand | but it's > 1 gig |
| 20:06.17 | kuru | hrmm.. why is mine not showing over 900mb then? |
| 20:06.20 | kuru | I have 2gb in there |
| 20:06.20 | Overand | but it's 2.6.7-1-k7-smp |
| 20:06.27 | paulswm | kuru: The debian 2.6.8 supports 4GB of memory, I just checked its config |
| 20:06.27 | Overand | get a > 386 kernel |
| 20:06.29 | kuru | could it be bios related? |
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| 20:06.38 | dvs | Overand: Look at the /boot/config-2.6.7-1-k7-smp file |
| 20:06.40 | Overand | kuru: it *could* be, but usually that stuff is fixed in recent kernels |
| 20:06.45 | Provito | kuru, ensure you have enabled high mem support |
| 20:06.47 | Overand | dvs: k, will |
| 20:06.56 | Overand | as you can tell, this box isn't one i usually use |
| 20:07.10 | kuru | the one I have does not, for sure |
| 20:07.17 | kuru | CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y |
| 20:07.18 | kuru | # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set |
| 20:07.18 | kuru | # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set |
| 20:07.27 | Overand | CONFIG_GUGHMEM=y |
| 20:07.28 | Overand | yeah |
| 20:07.30 | Overand | on mine |
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| 20:07.40 | Overand | HIGHMEM4G too |
| 20:07.50 | directhex | CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y |
| 20:07.57 | directhex | on my standard 2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 20:07.57 | Overand | yeah |
| 20:08.08 | dvs | kuru: So, to answer your original question: there shouldn't be an initrd image unless you specify --initrd when you did make-kpkg |
| 20:08.09 | Overand | same on my standard k7 smp |
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| 20:08.18 | paulswm | kuru: install 2.6.8, the default is : |
| 20:08.20 | paulswm | # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set |
| 20:08.25 | paulswm | CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y |
| 20:08.25 | paulswm | # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set |
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| 20:08.25 | Overand | dvs: but, irregardless, you can get a 'proper' kernel, and it should support it proerly |
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| 20:08.42 | paulswm | crap, sorry |
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| 20:08.54 | Overand | i reccomend you use the packaged kernel |
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| 20:09.13 | dvs | A packaged 2.6.8 kernel |
| 20:09.19 | greycat | !kernel of instability |
| 20:09.19 | dpkg | Linux 2.6. "Andrew's vision, as expressed at the summit, is that the mainline kernel will be the fastest and most feature-rich kernel around, but not, necessarily, the most stable. Final stabilization is to be done by distributors (as happens now, really)..." <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513>, or http://kerneltrap.org/node/4793 (new 2.6 numbering scheme - proposal) |
| 20:09.34 | dvs | He's already using 2.6.7 |
| 20:09.41 | Overand | yeah |
| 20:09.46 | Overand | but he's using 2.6.7-386 |
| 20:09.59 | Overand | i'm using 2.6.7-k7-smp and it's supported |
| 20:10.01 | dvs | Yikes! |
| 20:10.13 | dvs | On what kind of server |
| 20:10.48 | Overand | dvs: it's a workstation, and it's more or less moved over to XP for the time being, I gave up trying to get X and FBConsole to work |
| 20:10.49 | paulswm | Its' supported in kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 too |
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| 20:11.40 | vork3 | i changed the resolution in my /etc/X11/XF86config-4 and restarted my laptop and now my command-line has all horizontal lines on tty1 till tty6. who can help me? |
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| 20:12.15 | witless | is video broken in unstable? |
| 20:12.15 | Overand | dvs: Dual athlon MP 1900+, 1792 megs of ECC PC2100 ram, Geforce 6800 GT, etc. |
| 20:12.25 | Overand | witless: it *is* 'unstable' |
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| 20:12.33 | Overand | but that shouldn't have happened |
| 20:12.33 | witless | right. |
| 20:12.38 | dvs | Overand: I meant kuru. |
| 20:12.43 | Overand | dvs: ah |
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| 20:13.50 | k3k0 | did microsoft buy debian project ? |
| 20:14.03 | greycat | there's nothing they could buy. |
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| 20:14.11 | dvs | ops ban k3k0 for being ridiculous ;-) |
| 20:14.14 | resiak | k3k0: YES THEY DID. RUN FOR THE HILLS111111oneoneonoenoenoene |
| 20:14.15 | Ironwalker | lol |
| 20:14.29 | serialkiller | err stil no go with debian install full cd or net install.. pressing enter at boot give kernel panic and using linux26 at boot hangs at ramdisk compressed block found at 0 |
| 20:14.34 | k3k0 | my friend says that i was thinkin wtf :?!?!? :D |
| 20:14.37 | serialkiller | what gives? |
| 20:14.53 | paster | "k-dog" at 209.232.116.100 pasted "XDMCP startup problems" (127 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/1 |
| 20:14.54 | greycat | serialkiller: file an installation report |
| 20:14.58 | Overand | haha. that'd be awesome. |
| 20:15.05 | Overand | Debian running on the Windows NT kernel |
| 20:15.07 | Overand | inside cygwin |
| 20:15.11 | newbiedk | hi i have a quick question (going crazy!) on my old machine I use 3 lines to describe my static network interface - however this _exact_ same configuration will not work on my new machine here only dhcp work??? The lines I am adding to etc/network/interfaces is: iface eth0 inet static - address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - netmask 255.255.255.0 - gateway 194.255.xxx.xxx. What is missing???? |
| 20:15.20 | serialkiller | going to get my 2.4 cd and try that |
| 20:15.25 | greycat | newbiedk: auto eth0 |
| 20:15.27 | k-dog | XDMCP issues. see paster message above. |
| 20:15.30 | Overand | actually, you *could* run debian on the winnt kernel, what with what's-it-called, the 'usermode linux' port to windows |
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| 20:15.39 | sobersabre | hello... |
| 20:15.39 | dvs | newbiedk: That's 4 lines ;-) |
| 20:15.42 | greycat | newbiedk: that became no-longer-the-default in woody, I think. |
| 20:15.48 | newbiedk | greycat have auto eth0 as well |
| 20:15.51 | resiak | Overand: Google for geNToo. |
| 20:15.57 | k3k0 | lol :> |
| 20:16.03 | dvs | newbiedk: "auto eth0" might help because the interface isn't up be default |
| 20:16.03 | Overand | resiak: ha. |
| 20:16.05 | p8m | Isn't Debian called "The universial operating system"? |
| 20:16.13 | Overand | google doesn't pay attention to caps |
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| 20:16.18 | k-dog | p8m: No. "Universal" |
| 20:16.22 | greycat | p8m: I hear it's quite the hit in the andromeda galaxy |
| 20:16.31 | nxvl | whats happening with debian planet?? |
| 20:16.33 | newbiedk | am suing "auto eth0" as well forgot to mention! |
| 20:16.37 | sobersabre | and alpha centauri like it too... |
| 20:16.41 | greycat | newbiedk: does "ifup eth0" work? |
| 20:16.43 | Overand | we should start beaming out the kernel source via radio antennas |
| 20:16.44 | k-dog | newbiedk: Have you served it yet? |
| 20:16.45 | p8m | greycat: No you didn't |
| 20:16.55 | dvs | newbiedk: Also, the network cards could be different. |
| 20:17.01 | newbiedk | greycat, nope |
| 20:17.08 | greycat | newbiedk: what error does it give? |
| 20:17.09 | newbiedk | k-dog, served it? |
| 20:17.14 | C17H21NO4 | I have an ftp server. One of the users is on some strange adsl connection that uses some sort or round-robin magic for outbound connections. It is causing me headaches. He simply cannot resume. It takes about 10 mins for him to connect. Anyone experience anything like this? |
| 20:17.24 | k-dog | newbiedk: served eth0 with papers. You're suing it, right/ |
| 20:17.33 | Overand | OH it's called 'colinux' the usermode-linux port to windows. actually kind of nifty hack |
| 20:17.43 | sobersabre | C17H21NO4, i suggeest you to upgrade the client. |
| 20:17.46 | kuru | server wouldn't come back ;) |
| 20:17.51 | k-dog | C17H21NO4: passive mode |
| 20:17.58 | newbiedk | greycat, dont now - where should I look for the error? |
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| 20:18.42 | C17H21NO4 | It is passive, he is using the latest flashFXP. I think it may be the conntrack modules. |
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| 20:19.09 | newbiedk | k-dog, maybe my english is a little bit bad but simply dont understand what you mean by "served eth0 with papers" ??? The ip is mine as in working on the other machine (ofcourse not at the same time!!!) |
| 20:19.12 | C17H21NO4 | He comes in on any one of five ip's |
| 20:19.15 | Darien-PB | wow, packages is still down? |
| 20:19.15 | k-dog | C17H21NO4: His IP's changing? |
| 20:19.17 | Darien-PB | must be a huge HD |
| 20:19.20 | C17H21NO4 | k-dog: Yes |
| 20:19.24 | k-dog | newbiedk: "suing" != "using" |
| 20:19.36 | k-dog | C17H21NO4: How often? |
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| 20:19.59 | Overand | dvs: holy crap. this is an april fools story but i think they're serious |
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| 20:20.17 | Overand | er |
| 20:20.19 | dvs | Overand: Which story? |
| 20:20.26 | C17H21NO4 | k-dog: I think for every connection, I am not sure. pure-ftp doesn't give much output, even in debugging mode. |
| 20:20.31 | Overand | resiak: holy crap. this is an april fools story but i think they're serious |
| 20:20.35 | Overand | dvs: GeNToo |
| 20:20.40 | Overand | Gentoo on NT kernel |
| 20:20.42 | sobersabre | which docs shall i read to be able to use Gecko for my needs ? |
| 20:20.46 | Overand | god i hop eit's a joke |
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| 20:20.55 | resiak | Overand: No, they're not serious |
| 20:21.01 | dvs | Overand: That would be an improvement to NT |
| 20:21.02 | greycat | was it posted on Friday? |
| 20:21.10 | serialkiller | greycat |
| 20:21.11 | resiak | Yes, it was an April fool. |
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| 20:21.15 | serialkiller | know alot baout scsi? |
| 20:21.21 | sobersabre | Overand, they have NT in the middle: geNToo |
| 20:21.21 | k-dog | C17H21NO4: That's bogus. Suggest you get data on it. Log him. Find out if another client works. |
| 20:21.21 | resiak | !alot |
| 20:21.22 | dpkg | i guess alot is raping the English language |
| 20:21.23 | newbiedk | have a "sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 |
| 20:21.23 | newbiedk | " when I type ifconfig -a, can this be the reason why my old configuration is not working? |
| 20:21.25 | resiak | !baout |
| 20:21.27 | resiak | :( |
| 20:21.32 | greycat | that's just a typo |
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| 20:21.51 | greycat | newbiedk: what makes you think it is not working? |
| 20:22.00 | davis | any ivtv users here? |
| 20:22.06 | serialkiller | i nedd to load my scsi adapter mod so i can install this |
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| 20:22.48 | newbiedk | greycat, cause i cant connect to the net!! ifconfig does not show eth0 when /network/interfaces is set to static as described |
| 20:22.50 | C17H21NO4 | k-dog: He has tried several clients, other users use the same clients without any problems. The data connection isn't being made. I think his client just keeps timing out until he tries with the same ip he logged in on. |
| 20:23.15 | greycat | newbiedk: ifup eth0 ran with NO output? and it exited with a 0 status? |
| 20:23.23 | dvs | newbiedk: But there must be a message when you try and bring the interface up? |
| 20:23.26 | tkinias | hey there... IIRC there is a way to put a filesystem into a single file (e.g., so I can create an ext2 filesystem on a vfat partition...) -- do I remember correctly? |
| 20:23.38 | Overand | resiak: this is probably one of the most in-depth and plausable april fool jokes i've seen |
| 20:23.38 | ningo | np: Tears for Fears - Debian wants to rule the world |
| 20:23.39 | resiak | tkinias: You do. |
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| 20:23.49 | k-dog | C17H21NO4: As I said: you're going to need to log his connections and get a better idea of what's happening. Bitching to his ISP might be on order. |
| 20:23.50 | tode | davis: sometime I use ivtv |
| 20:23.55 | davis | tode: cool. |
| 20:23.59 | tkinias | resiak, what's this called? (I don't know what to google ) |
| 20:24.04 | k-dog | tkinias: loopback fs |
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| 20:24.15 | tkinias | k-dog, ah, that's right... thx |
| 20:24.16 | k-dog | tkinias: mke2fs <file> |
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| 20:24.25 | resiak | tkinias: Well, you know how to use mke2fs, right? You just feed it a filename other than that of a partition. It's called "a filesystem in a file". |
| 20:24.27 | newbiedk | dvs, greycat will try making a reboot but where should I look for the error - what i the right log file? |
| 20:24.28 | davis | when I try to run ivtvfwextract, I get a failure when it runs. |
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| 20:24.44 | dvs | newbiedk: You shouldn't have to reboot |
| 20:24.55 | mikkel | what module do i need inorder to get VIA AC'97 onboard soundcard to work ? |
| 20:24.56 | dvs | newbiedk: "ifup eth0" should produce something. |
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| 20:25.08 | davis | tode: cant open /tmp/ivtvex.2051/hcwPVRP2.sys |
| 20:25.09 | greycat | mikkel: /msg dpkg sound |
| 20:25.14 | greycat | mikkel: /msg dpkg faq |
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| 20:25.25 | tkinias | resiak, ok cool |
| 20:25.31 | newbiedk | dvs, is using eth0 now! But using dhcp and NOT my static address |
| 20:25.41 | greycat | if you're in woody using OSS, then it's via82cxxx_audio |
| 20:25.54 | dvs | newbiedk: Oh! Then /etc/init.d/networking restart |
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| 20:26.00 | k-dog | tkinias: Create the file first (dd if=/dev/zero count=<blocks>). Then the filesystem on it. |
| 20:26.05 | newbiedk | dvs, ok thx |
| 20:26.05 | C17H21NO4 | k-dog: The problem definitely is on his end, but he can use other ftp servers fine. In fact I was running vsftp, and he could log into it. Unfortunately it lacks features that pure-ftpd has that I must use. |
| 20:26.36 | Cindux | er stupid question but, would someone using Linux be considered a 'Linux end user' |
| 20:26.42 | k-dog | C17H21NO4: OK. |
| 20:26.53 | Humbe | Cindux: Yes.. |
| 20:26.55 | k-dog | Cindux: No. |
| 20:26.59 | mikkel | greycat: yeah, but i donø't know what module i need to load |
| 20:27.00 | Humbe | No? |
| 20:27.01 | Cindux | er ? |
| 20:27.02 | k-dog | Cindux: ...some would consider them a start user. |
| 20:27.11 | greycat | mikkel: 16:25 greycat> if you're in woody using OSS, then it's via82cxxx_audio |
| 20:27.21 | Overand | C17H21NO4: nice nick. Big cocaine fan? |
| 20:27.25 | deckrider | hi, have deb and deb-src that is on the same server and apt-get update hits Packages and Sources too fast (perhaps in parallel?) for how the server (which I don't control) is set up. Is there something I can put in /etc/apt/apt.conf that forces apt to serialize these (and perhaps even sleep for a second in between)? |
| 20:27.32 | mikkel | OSS? |
| 20:27.41 | Cindux | hm i dont know = / |
| 20:27.42 | C17H21NO4 | Overand: In my younger years. :) |
| 20:27.49 | Cindux | i dont think start user is a real term |
| 20:27.54 | greycat | mikkel: if you don't know what OSS and ALSA are, you're using OSS. |
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| 20:28.03 | mikkel | k |
| 20:28.12 | tombhadAC | mikkel you need snd-intel8x0 |
| 20:28.13 | newbiedk | Don't seem to be have all the variables for eth0/inet. |
| 20:28.14 | newbiedk | Failed to bring up eth0. |
| 20:28.14 | newbiedk | done. |
| 20:28.14 | newbiedk | debian:/home/soren# |
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| 20:28.21 | greycat | tombhadAC: probably wrong. |
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| 20:28.32 | greycat | tombhadAC: almost certainly wrong, since he said VIA. |
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| 20:28.38 | mikkel | hmm i get: installation faild. ? |
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| 20:28.48 | newbiedk | that was the error I got (sorry for the flood) |
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| 20:29.16 | mikkel | with the via module |
| 20:29.19 | dondelelcaro | newbiedk: your /etc/network/interfaces isn't set up properly. use the paster bot to paste it. |
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| 20:29.22 | dondelelcaro | !paster |
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| 20:29.22 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian, and paste away. |
| 20:29.23 | dondelelcaro | !paste |
| 20:29.23 | dpkg | well, paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff |
| 20:29.25 | Humbe | I would say the user of some application/project/OS/whatever is a user, which might be another process automaticly using it.. The end user being whichever entity is at the end of control, which often is a user.. Dunno if that's the common interpretation though.. |
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| 20:29.51 | dvs | newbiedk: What network card do you have? |
| 20:29.57 | miernik | what happened to packages.debian.org ? |
| 20:29.58 | Overand | 'don't eat this stuff' cute |
| 20:30.07 | dvs | miernik: /topic |
| 20:30.07 | newbiedk | dvs realteak 8139 |
| 20:30.18 | dvs | newbiedk: Is that module loaded? |
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| 20:30.56 | mikkel | and i havenø't got snd-intel8x0 |
| 20:31.03 | paster | "newbiedk" at 194.255.112.30 pasted "interface file" (17 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/2 |
| 20:31.06 | miernik | dvs: topis was so long that I only was first 100 chars at first :) |
| 20:31.24 | dvs | mikkel: which kernel? |
| 20:31.45 | greycat | dvs: don't add to his confusion. |
| 20:31.46 | newbiedk | dvs yes |
| 20:31.53 | mikkel | 2.4.18-686 |
| 20:31.53 | newbiedk | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2 |
| 20:32.34 | greycat | mikkel: you're running woody (debian 3.0), right? |
| 20:32.40 | mikkel | yep |
| 20:32.55 | dvs | newbiedk: "auto eth0" isn't there |
| 20:32.58 | greycat | mikkel: so ALSA isn't even an *option*, and any module with "snd-" in its name is automatically wrong. |
| 20:33.03 | greycat | mikkel: lspci | grep -i audio |
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| 20:33.15 | tombhadAC | hm sorry |
| 20:33.21 | greycat | newbiedk: you have "nauto eth0". |
| 20:33.31 | newbiedk | that right |
| 20:33.36 | greycat | newbiedk: that wrong. |
| 20:33.38 | newbiedk | changing right away |
| 20:33.43 | mikkel | 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 24c5 (rev 02) |
| 20:33.51 | Overand | ew |
| 20:33.54 | greycat | mikkel: you said VIA. but your lspci said Intel. |
| 20:33.58 | greycat | mikkel: try i810_audio |
| 20:33.58 | LaVey | any1 here be able to help me set up my orinoco drivers ? im on sarge.. need to be able to drop to monitor mode.. have downloaded the 0.13e driver patched it and installed it.. still no monitor mode in iwpriv.. any ideas ? |
| 20:34.18 | mikkel | in windows it said via :( |
| 20:34.44 | greycat | I never trust anything windows says any more... |
| 20:34.54 | dvs | mikkel: It probably is a VIA sound chip but it has an AC '97 interface |
| 20:34.59 | directhex | it can quite reasonably be ac97 on via, with something like realtek as a dsp |
| 20:35.11 | newbiedk | dvs, greycat auto eth0 was set right (paste fucked it up) |
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| 20:35.29 | mikkel | again it says: installation faild. |
| 20:35.31 | greycat | newbiedk: grep eth0 /etc/network/interfaces | cat -e |
| 20:35.43 | greycat | mikkel: what *command* are you typing, and what's the exact error? |
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| 20:35.53 | directhex | mikkel, which year was this pc made? |
| 20:36.00 | mikkel | i used modconf |
| 20:36.09 | mikkel | where can i paste ? |
| 20:36.11 | greycat | mikkel: try "modprobe i810_audio" from the command line |
| 20:36.17 | sobersabre | guys. need advice. i want to build a db frontend. it should: |
| 20:36.17 | biggi_mat | mikkel #flood maybe |
| 20:36.22 | newbiedk | auto eth0$ |
| 20:36.22 | newbiedk | iface eth0 inet static$ |
| 20:36.29 | sobersabre | 1. allow queries with misc terms. |
| 20:36.35 | sobersabre | 2. allow inserts |
| 20:36.36 | greycat | newbiedk: ok, looks right... |
| 20:36.41 | sobersabre | 3. allow reports |
| 20:36.48 | paster | "newbiedk" at 194.255.112.30 pasted "interface file-2" (18 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/3 |
| 20:36.58 | dvs | newbiedk: lsmod | grep 8139 |
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| 20:37.08 | sobersabre | i want to go for tomcat + postgres , build a webapp. |
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| 20:37.12 | sobersabre | but |
| 20:37.26 | sobersabre | i want to show the gui with mozilla engine. |
| 20:37.45 | newbiedk | dvs, is it not higly unlikely that it is the module that is not working since it is the network card I am using right now? |
| 20:37.52 | sobersabre | is there a way to modify the mozilla look and feel ? to remove menus, configurations, buttons... etc. ? |
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| 20:38.17 | dvs | newbiedk: What's the difference between your static address and your dynamic address? |
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| 20:38.36 | newbiedk | dvs, the dhcp is behind NAT |
| 20:38.55 | Quibus | Yay! openMSX is in Debian! :) |
| 20:38.59 | Quibus | OK, thanks |
| 20:39.01 | Pappa | snd-via82xx? very cool. just does not work® with the stock debian 2.6 kernel |
| 20:39.07 | greycat | sobersabre: ask #mozilla (irc.mozilla.org is even better) |
| 20:39.15 | sobersabre | good! |
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| 20:39.40 | sobersabre | thanks, greycat you're at your best! ( never heard of irc.mozilla.org :) ) |
| 20:39.41 | paster | "newbiedk" at 194.255.112.30 pasted "lsmod | grep 8139" (3 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/4 |
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| 20:39.49 | FieldySnuts | good for a laugh, rms fans http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/04/open_source_cologne.html |
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| 20:40.00 | mikkel | this is the error i get: http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=36557 |
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| 20:40.21 | dvs | newbiedk: You have 2 network cards? |
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| 20:40.31 | lethal_dose | Hi, why can i only burn dvds at 2x with a non root login if with root i can burn at 4? (k3b, growisofs)? |
| 20:40.47 | FieldySnuts | root is getting realtime priority for it |
| 20:40.48 | gilles | is it better to use mp3 to rip CDs or other format ? |
| 20:40.50 | FieldySnuts | normal users don't |
| 20:41.01 | p8m | gilles: use flac |
| 20:41.02 | newbiedk | dvs, yes a wireless and the wirred one |
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| 20:41.21 | greycat | lethal_dose: root is stronger. |
| 20:41.28 | JeffWilson12 | Hey all...the 'lsof' package doesn't seem to want to upgrade for me; during the upgrade, the permissions of /usr/sbin/lsof appear to have been altered incorrectly; my permissions now read: owner: 122, group: 114 ... any ideas? I can't change the permissions now :( |
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| 20:41.46 | greycat | gilles: ogg vorbis is better for listening on a PC, but MP3 may be more widely supported on hardware players |
| 20:41.48 | redduck666 | any idea where can i get Esmart, whatever that is |
| 20:41.55 | lethal_dose | FieldySnuts, dont think its that, because k3b tells me that i can only record at 2x _before_ trying to record |
| 20:42.15 | greycat | redduck666: google |
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| 20:42.44 | newbiedk | it is the exact same problem that occours when using wlan0 DHCP works fine but the static not. |
| 20:42.54 | Overand | greycat: the Rio Karma supports mp3, ogg vorbis, and flac, but maxes out at 20 gigs and is a little flaky |
| 20:42.59 | Overand | but i love mine |
| 20:43.02 | p8m | gilles: flac has good portable support too |
| 20:43.16 | stew | rio karma blows |
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| 20:43.17 | directhex | p8m, flac has awful portable support. the karma or nothing |
| 20:43.23 | stew | i'm very glad to be rid of mine |
| 20:43.24 | FieldySnuts | lethal_dose: i know, becuase it knows you're not root trying that |
| 20:43.28 | FieldySnuts | @lart stew |
| 20:43.29 | Overand | stew: it's got 'lock-up' issues, but it hardly blows |
| 20:43.34 | greycat | Overand: is that the one where you can't let the vorbis bitrate fall below 80 kbps or something equally stupid? |
| 20:43.37 | gilles | so, ogg vorbis has a better quality and lesser size file than mp3 ? |
| 20:43.41 | newbiedk | flac is best due to it is lossless |
| 20:43.46 | greycat | gilles: yes |
| 20:43.46 | mikkel | anyone got a solution ? |
| 20:43.46 | FieldySnuts | gilles: definately |
| 20:43.47 | directhex | gilles, yes |
| 20:43.51 | Overand | greycat: that may have been a bug at some point, but i don't think it's a problem now |
| 20:43.54 | gilles | great |
| 20:44.01 | Overand | *generally* ogg is better than mp3 |
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| 20:44.04 | FieldySnuts | vorbis does a lot better at preserving lows and highs too |
| 20:44.04 | Overand | it's not *always* |
| 20:44.05 | stew | Overand: mine came with a 3 month warrnty and rio had it for 2 months of that time |
| 20:44.18 | FieldySnuts | this coming from somebody with a high end audio system, i notice big time |
| 20:44.22 | greycat | Overand: my neuros is wonderful except that it's got some sort of loose connection between the battery and the rest of it, so it doesn't charge properly, etc. |
| 20:44.24 | Overand | stew: i've had mine for about 8 months now, and i've had no problems aside from having to reset it occasionally |
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| 20:44.31 | greycat | Overand: I don't want to replace it just yet, though :/ |
| 20:44.37 | Overand | yeah the neuros i've had is flaky |
| 20:44.41 | Overand | i had bad luck with them |
| 20:44.42 | greycat | Overand: flaky how? |
| 20:44.45 | stew | Overand: consider yourself lucky. mine would lock up every hour or so |
| 20:44.56 | Overand | stew: did you upgrade the firmware? |
| 20:45.00 | stew | Overand: yes |
| 20:45.05 | Overand | greycat: flaky like hard-freezing during record |
| 20:45.08 | Overand | and playback |
| 20:45.09 | Overand | and idling |
| 20:45.09 | Overand | heh |
| 20:45.23 | directhex | i like the look of the cowon iaudio m3 |
| 20:45.28 | directhex | a lot. it's a sexy beast |
| 20:45.30 | Overand | my neuros experience was like stew's karma experience |
| 20:45.33 | Overand | directhex: yeah i looked at that |
| 20:45.35 | Overand | more space too |
| 20:45.37 | directhex | not an audiophile player like the karma, but sexy |
| 20:45.41 | gilles | Is there any "philophical" difference between MP3, OGG VORBIS and FLAC ? (like gpl license...) |
| 20:45.42 | stew | greycat: their hard drives have a tendency to get physically stuck where the recommended procedure is to actually whack the unit |
| 20:45.42 | Overand | if my karma was 80 gigs i'd go fir it |
| 20:45.50 | notty | i am trying to install fglrx module on debian... and when i want to install the module it says that i need X4.1.0 or higher.. and i need a kernel 2.6.8 or higher.. and i try to install it on 2.6.8 and 2.6.10 but i still get the same error any tip ? |
| 20:45.50 | Overand | gilles: mp3 isn't open. flac and ogg are |
| 20:46.00 | Overand | well mp3 is 'open' |
| 20:46.01 | directhex | gilles, mp3 is patented, vorbis is public knowledge (i.e. no license terms at all) |
| 20:46.03 | Overand | but it's not 'free' |
| 20:46.06 | greycat | gilles: FLAC is totally different because it's lossless. Ogg Vorbis is patent free, and therefore the choice of the Free software people. |
| 20:46.14 | greycat | gilles: MP3 is patented. |
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| 20:46.54 | gilles | thanks for those very answers |
| 20:46.59 | gilles | very clear |
| 20:47.04 | A-z-i-z | i hate kde .. but sound works perfectly here ... on Gnome, i get some device busy errors |
| 20:47.12 | greycat | (however, for the record, FLAC is also totally Free.) |
| 20:47.12 | grivell | I rip all cds to flac and use a script to re-encode them as either mp3/ogg depending on what I'm taking it on. |
| 20:47.16 | travisat | !tell jure about away |
| 20:47.29 | Overand | i rip all to flac |
| 20:47.29 | greycat | grivell: how many CDs? |
| 20:47.34 | directhex | greycat, no licensing terms? i didn't read up on it much as flac means not much music on a player |
| 20:47.39 | Overand | flac is great because if there's a new lossless format, it doesn't matter |
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| 20:47.47 | Overand | directhex: no licencing |
| 20:47.52 | gilles | what the encoding format used on common audio CDs ? |
| 20:47.54 | grivell | greycat: Couldn't count :) Ripped, over 300 probably. |
| 20:47.56 | Overand | and a full CD is about 350 megs |
| 20:47.59 | Overand | gilles: 'redbook' |
| 20:48.02 | directhex | gilles, audio cd. |
| 20:48.02 | greycat | directhex: I don't know the exact FLAC license, but I'm positive it's DFSG-free. |
| 20:48.06 | lethal_dose | FieldySnuts, maybe.. but i still dont understand why doesnt it record at 8x if the media and the record support that speed |
| 20:48.19 | pyr3 | I'm having trouble with smbfs/cifs between two linux machines. "mount -t smbfs -o username=user //grendel/share /mnt/grendel" fails. It tells me that the block device is write-protected, then it tries to mount read-only and fails. |
| 20:48.34 | mikkel | no one ? |
| 20:48.47 | greycat | grivell: so that's... about 600 GB of audio data? |
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| 20:48.54 | greycat | or did I compute wrong? |
| 20:48.59 | gilles | If I send an OGG VORBIS sound to a friend, can she read it with windows media player ? |
| 20:48.59 | Overand | greycat: 300 cds iss... |
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| 20:49.03 | grivell | greycat: Computed wrong |
| 20:49.06 | Overand | about 100 gigs |
| 20:49.12 | Overand | 300 CDs ~ 100 gigs |
| 20:49.19 | grivell | I have about 15 gigs left on 120 gb drive |
| 20:49.28 | directhex | gilles, not withgout an extra codec. winamp plays vorbis fine though |
| 20:49.35 | greycat | gilles: WMP is the *least* vorbis-friendly application in the whole world :( |
| 20:49.35 | spoopin | gilles: no, but I think Winamp can though |
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| 20:49.43 | greycat | gilles: winamp can play it, and foobar2000 can play it |
| 20:49.45 | directhex | greycat, itunes. |
| 20:49.49 | Overand | winamp does vorbis out of the box |
| 20:49.49 | greycat | directhex: point. |
| 20:50.04 | Overand | winamp flac support is good with the plugin too |
| 20:50.10 | Overand | flac really is the winner in my book |
| 20:50.15 | directhex | greycat, wmp can at least use a reasonable vorbis directshow filter. the one quicktime vorbis filter uses 100% of a 2ghz cpu for 30 seconds, every track |
| 20:50.17 | Overand | this isn't 1999 anymore |
| 20:50.23 | Overand | we aren't all using 10 gig hard drives |
| 20:51.04 | Overand | even though my laptop is 10 gigs... =[ |
| 20:51.24 | Di``` | directhex: I'm installing debian using raid software now....i will use the install to do that. I just have a question, i need to have one md using total GB or create one md for every partition that i need? |
| 20:51.29 | spoopin | Overand: no, some of us are using 40 gig drives and are too poor to buy more space :( |
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| 20:51.49 | grivell | Overand: USB drives are good ;) I have a 200 gb waiting to be added to my server, but is "mess around" space right now. chroot distributions :) |
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| 20:51.58 | directhex | Di```, it's sort of up to you. usually you'd have one md device, and combine with lvm. google for mdadm with lvm |
| 20:52.05 | Overand | grivell: nice |
| 20:52.39 | Di``` | thanks |
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| 20:54.42 | Overand | grivell: the best way to do that is to get external enclosuers |
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| 20:54.58 | will_cat | one question, somebody knows, how grub know that you have update a kernel-image with apt-get? |
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| 20:56.00 | r0xbox | hello |
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| 20:56.08 | r0xbox | can somone help me out with this real quick |
| 20:56.09 | r0xbox | im still having that issue about the /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory when i type "startx" |
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| 20:56.33 | Raenius | quick question. When your running testing can you still download security updates? |
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| 20:56.56 | redduck666 | Raenius, yup |
| 20:57.04 | Overand | redduck666: uh, really? |
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| 20:57.19 | Raenius | redduck666: thanks |
| 20:57.19 | stew | Raenius: generally no, there are no security updates for testing |
| 20:57.35 | klinkz | does some one have a clue about Kdeam ? |
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| 20:57.48 | Raenius | ok now i'm confused again.. :( |
| 20:57.52 | xophEr | debian.org down? or is it just me? :) |
| 20:57.57 | xophEr | *reads topic* |
| 20:58.00 | chealer | !tell Raenius about testing security issues |
| 20:58.01 | Overand | Raenius: the right answer is 'no' |
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| 20:58.09 | chealer | xophEr: use www.debian.org |
| 20:58.13 | Overand | !tel me about testing security issues |
| 20:58.15 | xophEr | ok |
| 20:58.25 | redduck666 | http://www.rocklinux.net/packages/esmart.html under diwnload there is a link, if i clikc it i get cvs is not a registered protocol, any help appriciated |
| 20:58.28 | flashdrvnk | azulinux $> host debian.org |
| 20:58.28 | flashdrvnk | debian.org A 192.25.206.10 |
| 20:58.36 | flashdrvnk | :> |
| 20:58.37 | chealer | Raenius: that page gives an overview of the risks until security support for sarge starts |
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| 21:00.17 | Raenius | chealer.. So if I run testing then sarge turns to stable are the updates available to me.. |
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| 21:01.13 | r0xbox | umm |
| 21:01.14 | r0xbox | crap |
| 21:01.15 | r0xbox | i typed "apt-get install x-window-system" and that did its thing then i typed "startx" and then the monitor stops getting viewable signal and it says out of range! |
| 21:01.17 | john6000 | im using Debian the knoppix edition |
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| 21:01.29 | stew | john6000: #knoppix |
| 21:01.34 | chealer | Raenius: when sarge becomes stable, if you run stable at that time, you'll have security updates |
| 21:01.34 | john6000 | ? |
| 21:01.48 | stew | john6000: wrong channel, you want #knoppix |
| 21:01.52 | john6000 | ok |
| 21:01.54 | john6000 | ty |
| 21:01.56 | klinkz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.56 | klinkz | <klinkz> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. |
| 21:02.00 | chealer | Raenius: actually, security support for sarge should come 30 days before it's stable, which should be pretty soon |
| 21:02.04 | r0xbox | crap crap crap im paniking |
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| 21:02.08 | r0xbox | i dont kno what do do there |
| 21:02.09 | r0xbox | ahhh |
| 21:02.32 | stew | r0xbox: ctrl-alt-bksp will kill the x server, then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 21:02.50 | Raenius | chealer: cool, but i shouldn't have to redownload everything to take advantage right.. Sorry but i'm new to al this. :( |
| 21:02.58 | r0xbox | ok lemme try it |
| 21:03.10 | chealer | klinkz: you may have more help in #kde |
| 21:03.17 | chealer | klinkz: I mean #debian-kde |
| 21:03.36 | chealer | Raenius: you won't need to redownload everything |
| 21:03.36 | xophEr | what cd-images do you recommend for download if you're installing a desktop system and net-install isnt an option? |
| 21:03.47 | mwilson | klinkz: And actually providing what it's telling you, quite plainly, is missing... would never occur to you? |
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| 21:04.02 | mwilson | xophEr: What does the installation guide recommend you download? |
| 21:04.09 | Raenius | that's a relief.. :) |
| 21:04.22 | Raenius | 14 cd's is a lot to download |
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| 21:04.30 | xophEr | *starts searching for an installation guide* :) |
| 21:04.51 | mwilson | Yeah, after all, the one linked to by the Debian web site is so hard to find. |
| 21:05.05 | chealer | Raenius: yeah, but you don't need to download all sarge in the first place unless you have no internet connection available |
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| 21:05.31 | gilles | I have got the following error msg with totem : "There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///tmp/vue_sur_chine03042005.asx", you might need to install the corresponding plugins". Can I solve it ? |
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| 21:05.39 | mage_ | hello world |
| 21:05.44 | Punchy | helllo |
| 21:05.46 | Raenius | chealer: I guess you can add a mirror and install that way? |
| 21:05.50 | am2stewa | Why is xfree86 -12.0.1 only on i386? |
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| 21:06.09 | mwilson | gilles: ASX is a container. What's inside it? |
| 21:06.10 | r0xbox | yey |
| 21:06.11 | r0xbox | worked |
| 21:06.12 | r0xbox | thank you |
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| 21:06.26 | Raenius | chealer: long time mandrake user.. Want to use debian now and it's been fun so far but still a lot to learn.. :) |
| 21:06.44 | am2stewa | nm |
| 21:07.05 | gilles | mwilson: I got this msg in totem when i openning the following link with firefox: http://www.tv-radio.com/ondemand/rfi/mere/ftp/Audio/Chinois/R064/vue_sur_chine03042005.asx |
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| 21:07.16 | mwilson | gilles: That's not what I asked you, is it? |
| 21:07.18 | mage_ | I've a little problem .. I've to install a debian distro on a IT 8212 chipset. The problem is that the driver for that chipset is only present in the -mm branch of the 2.6 kernel. Anyone have an idea how I could do this .. ? |
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| 21:07.43 | gilles | mwilson: sorry... it's on a radio |
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| 21:07.52 | irpf | ok, what's the best way to launch a iptables script in the system startup? |
| 21:07.59 | gilles | mwilson: a radio programme |
| 21:08.45 | mwilson | gilles: That's not what I asked you either. It's a very simple question. An ASX file is a container. Totem is telling you that it doesn't understand what's inside the container. If you expect to be able to MAKE totem understand it, knowing what's inside it would be a good start. |
| 21:08.45 | C17H21NO4 | Can someone give me the syntax for tcpdump to log a tcp port range and output in realtime to terminal? |
| 21:08.54 | mwilson | gilles: Unless you really just expect someone to guess. |
| 21:08.55 | mage_ | irpf: vi /etc/init.d/firewall ; /* edit */ ; :wq ; udpate-rc.d firewall defaults 99 |
| 21:09.00 | kaiowa | its possible to use glade to make only tk screens?? i tried but the file .glade has a xml format |
| 21:09.40 | Zeit|awy | finally got debian installed on my Sony Vaio laptop.. 2.6.8 vanilla debian sarge kernel, most is fine - except screen resolution is limited to 800x600 - should 1024x768 native size - any hints? |
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| 21:10.38 | k-dog | XDMCP: works if I *don't* have eth0 up. *Doesn't* work if I *do* have eth0 up. Any ideas? |
| 21:10.40 | gilles | mwilson: it's a radio program, a .asx file, how could I be clearer, what else do you mean by "what's inside" ? |
| 21:10.46 | k-dog | ...for localhost connections. |
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| 21:12.20 | mwilson | gilles: <sigh> Again, an ASX is a container for something else. It might have an AVI (which is itself a container) inside, it might have an MPEG, it might have a WMF, it might have any number of things. Whatever is inside it, Totem doesn't understand. |
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| 21:12.37 | mwilson | gilles: The *content* is irrelevant. |
| 21:12.57 | gilles | mwilson: how can I know the content ? |
| 21:13.06 | directhex | commonly asx is used as a container for windows media audio and/or video, but that's not a cert |
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| 21:13.18 | celebdor | Hi |
| 21:13.28 | aFlag | what's the name of a sound recorder so i can see if my mic is working? |
| 21:13.35 | mwilson | aFlag: audacity |
| 21:13.36 | directhex | audacity? |
| 21:13.42 | mwilson | hah! |
| 21:14.04 | aFlag | thanks :) |
| 21:14.43 | mwilson | Zeit|awy: There's some reason you don't just configure X for the resolution you think you should be running? |
| 21:15.17 | foXclone | Hello, can someone help me with this question... I use debian sarge as a router fileserver ftp but now i see a port 2191 used on my windows client... |
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| 21:15.33 | foXclone | where is 2191 used for? |
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| 21:15.51 | Zeit|awy | how to reconfigure from bash? scriptname? |
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| 21:16.23 | foXclone | well actually i know were it's used for and that's my concern |
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| 21:16.45 | foXclone | i've never used that application |
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| 21:16.59 | mwilson | Hm, mplayer can play the contents of the ASX, although it has trouble with the ASX itself. |
| 21:17.01 | r0xbox | anyone kno how i can get kde to run instead of gnome by default? |
| 21:17.17 | aFlag | ok, so i turned up the volume of the mic on alsamixer and i can hear it through the sound speakers when i talk to it, but audacity fails to find it, any ideas why? |
| 21:17.35 | mwilson | It's an ASF, inside. |
| 21:17.51 | mage_ | is it possible to make a "custom" installation cd ? |
| 21:17.54 | stew | aFlag: you have to select the input in audacity, iirc there is a drop down in the upper right |
| 21:18.01 | aFlag | it says that there was an error initializing the audio i/o error |
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| 21:18.06 | mage_ | to include drivers not supported by the standard cd ? |
| 21:18.08 | darkcmd | is debian-installer rc3, a lot more different than rc2? |
| 21:18.15 | mwilson | mage_: Nah... all these ones you see are merely the products of a diseased imagination. |
| 21:18.21 | k-dog | r0xbox: iirc update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 21:18.21 | foXclone | 2191TCPtvbusTvBus Messaging |
| 21:18.21 | foXclone | 2191UDPtvbusTvBus Messaging |
| 21:18.32 | mwilson | mage_: Nobody can actually create one. |
| 21:18.38 | mwilson | k-dog: What's that supposed to do? |
| 21:18.48 | Overand | throw an error |
| 21:18.50 | r0xbox | ok |
| 21:18.58 | k-dog | !tell mage_ about custom d-i |
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| 21:19.06 | k-dog | mwilson: set default WM. |
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| 21:19.15 | mage_ | thanks |
| 21:19.32 | r0xbox | iirc wont work as a command |
| 21:19.38 | mwilson | k-dog: The alternatives system is not a set of defaults. Even if it were, what would that alternative have to do with his question? |
| 21:19.42 | k-dog | !iirc |
| 21:19.42 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 21:19.42 | aFlag | so i turn off the esd, but and audacity doesn't complain anymore, but it doesn't record the sounds from the microphone, any ideas? |
| 21:19.51 | k-dog | mwilson: hence iirc |
| 21:20.05 | goron | I installed swat,samba. I configured a share. I said anyone can login. How is it that I can't access them via konqueror? The authorization fails each time. :( |
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| 21:20.15 | Rawplayer | !hence |
| 21:20.35 | mwilson | goron: Go back and do it correctly this time. That's about the only thing anyone can tell you, based on your lack of detail. |
| 21:20.41 | k-dog | goron: logs |
| 21:20.53 | r0xbox | oh allright |
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| 21:21.27 | Overand | k-dog: i'm pretty sure that mwilson knows what IIRC means |
| 21:21.29 | mwilson | k-dog: Forget that the alternatives system exists. |
| 21:21.40 | mwilson | And the ASF stream just ended. |
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| 21:21.59 | mwilson | Chinese is always such a musical-sounding language. :) |
| 21:22.11 | k-dog | Overand: so am I |
| 21:22.15 | k-dog | Overand: /lastlog iirc |
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| 21:22.28 | k-dog | Overand: r0xbox |
| 21:22.44 | darkcmd | do you have to have samba installed to mount samba shares? |
| 21:22.50 | mwilson | Yes. |
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| 21:22.55 | mwilson | Well, parts of it. |
| 21:23.06 | darkcmd | you don't need the samba server do you? |
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| 21:23.13 | darkcmd | just the client? |
| 21:23.15 | LaVey | hi.. |
| 21:23.15 | A-z-i-z | how to get xfce via apt-get ? |
| 21:23.20 | p8m | hi |
| 21:23.22 | a_monkey | where can i get debian sarge minimal cds? |
| 21:23.24 | mwilson | A-z-i-z: man apt-get |
| 21:23.36 | mwilson | a_monkey: Define "minimal". |
| 21:23.38 | A-z-i-z | what's xfce pachage name ? |
| 21:23.45 | darkcmd | what version of XFCE is currently in sarge? |
| 21:23.53 | Overand | apt-cache search xfce |
| 21:23.53 | goron | mwilson: I am in the config tool (swat). I add a share (/mnt). Then I go to konqueror and try to access it. What do you want to know more? |
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| 21:24.01 | mwilson | A-z-i-z: man apt-cache |
| 21:24.23 | a_monkey | mwilson: not cds with all of the binaries; one that gets binaries off of the internet for installation |
| 21:24.27 | A-z-i-z | thanks |
| 21:24.38 | a_monkey | mwilson: i've seen them before, now i can't find them |
| 21:24.49 | mwilson | !tell a_monkey about d-i |
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| 21:25.06 | LaVey | i have got a channel get ioctl failed 95: operation not supported, i have just installed the orinoco-0-15rc2 driver (monitor mode already patched) is there something in my kernel (old) that i need to fix (debain sarge2.6.8) |
| 21:25.17 | a_monkey | actually, would debian sid now be a better choice? |
| 21:25.22 | LaVey | trying to get kismet into monitor mode |
| 21:25.26 | a_monkey | or is sid too unstable for a personal desktop? |
| 21:25.31 | mwilson | a_monkey: Sid is never a choice. |
| 21:25.41 | a_monkey | why not? |
| 21:25.46 | mwilson | a_monkey: If you have to ask, you have no business running unstable. |
| 21:25.53 | directhex | darkcmd, 4.06 |
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| 21:25.55 | a_monkey | oh |
| 21:25.56 | p8m | Look up pinning packages if you need things from sid |
| 21:25.58 | a_monkey | well, ok. |
| 21:26.09 | goron | I just want to let samba share the /mnt dir. Why do I have to jump through hoops to get it done? |
| 21:26.24 | mwilson | goron: Dunno... why do you? |
| 21:26.35 | unixfool_ | whats a good find alias/function to have 'find' ignore/prune all .svn and CVS directories? |
| 21:26.45 | darkcmd | directhex: what WM do you usually run? |
| 21:26.54 | directhex | darkcmd, xfce 4.2 |
| 21:27.03 | darkcmd | is that in Sid? |
| 21:27.12 | directhex | no |
| 21:27.23 | darkcmd | oh, you custom compiled some stuff? |
| 21:27.28 | darkcmd | or some unofficial debs? |
| 21:27.34 | spoopin | unixfool_: grep -v .svn? ;) |
| 21:27.59 | klinkz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.01 | goron | mwilson: Well, apparently it's not enough to just do the things any sane man would configure. |
| 21:28.21 | mwilson | goron: Whatever you say. |
| 21:28.28 | p8m | debian is not for sane men |
| 21:28.44 | stew | unixfool_: alias gfind='find . -path "*/CVS*" -prune -o -path "*/*svn*" -prune -o -name "*[~#]" -prune -o -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -e grep -n -e' |
| 21:28.45 | darkcmd | p8m: why would you say that? |
| 21:28.50 | mwilson | p8m: He can't be bothered to learn how to set Samba up, is all. |
| 21:29.01 | valdyn | darkcmd: /msg dpkg alioth - you can find it there, i dont recommend running stuff from there though |
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| 21:29.18 | directhex | kcontrol has a samba config applet which should make this all very easy |
| 21:29.22 | darkcmd | are them experimental packages? |
| 21:29.35 | directhex | darkcmd, hand compiled. |
| 21:29.50 | mwilson | directhex: Being KDE, how likely is it that it actually works? |
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| 21:30.10 | directhex | mwilson, fucked if i know, but i found ti yesterday when someone else was asking |
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| 21:31.43 | SexyKen | Anyone know how to run snmpd on a non-standard port |
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| 21:31.43 | goron | ffs, I want to read the docs about samba, but I just want to read something *relevant*. |
| 21:32.06 | mwilson | That's good, the documentation is indeed relevant. |
| 21:32.19 | unixfool_ | stew: whats that grep do? |
| 21:32.23 | goron | mwilson: You are annoying. |
| 21:32.42 | p8m | actually debian is the sanest distro I've used |
| 21:32.46 | unixfool_ | stew: whats that grep do? |
| 21:32.48 | mwilson | goron: People who don't want to learn usually find me so. |
| 21:32.56 | stew | unixfool_: oh, i use that as an rgrep, so gfind <pattern>, is similar to rgrep <pattern> |
| 21:33.02 | goron | mwilson: You don't know who I am. |
| 21:33.11 | mwilson | goron: You've still not answered my original question, I see no reason to assume anything else. |
| 21:33.13 | streuner | Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": No such device |
| 21:33.16 | stew | unixfool_: you can leave off everything starting with the -print0 if you just want to find files |
| 21:33.20 | unixfool_ | stew: I want the list of files, I guess what I'm really asking is 'what does prune actually do?' |
| 21:33.22 | streuner | How can i solve this? |
| 21:33.31 | mwilson | streuner: Did the printer move? :) |
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| 21:33.39 | mwilson | streuner: Use lsusb to find it. |
| 21:33.40 | streuner | mwilson: nope |
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| 21:33.43 | Overand | goron: we know who you are. You're an angry IRC user. |
| 21:34.05 | conrad10781 | is anyone familiar with the bootcd package? |
| 21:34.11 | rdancer | !anyone |
| 21:34.11 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 21:34.18 | valdyn | !find usblp |
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| 21:34.36 | goron | mwilson: Well, I do because I want to be able to access files via *whatever* way between two dualboot Windows/Linux machines. |
| 21:34.42 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'usblp' (3 of 25): (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/class/usblp.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/usb/class/usblp.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.10-1-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/class/usblp.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.10-1-k7. |
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| 21:35.04 | valdyn | streuner: miss that module ^^^ ? |
| 21:35.21 | mwilson | streuner: Does lsusb show the printer being present? |
| 21:35.23 | goron | Overand: I am not angry. I think people should keep their mouth shut when they have nothing to add. |
| 21:35.26 | stew | unixfool_: prune is confusing to me as well, read the find info page |
| 21:35.41 | streuner | mwilson: just a sec. - need to install lsbutils |
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| 21:35.51 | conrad10781 | ok, I installed the bootcd package, and it works great!!! there isn't much documentation, but what i have found is that, it only works when i run it on a machine that is pretty much the same as the one it was compiled on. Even though on the boot it scans for new hardware, if i stick it in ANY machine that is not similar to the original, i get a fatal error: no screens foudn |
| 21:35.55 | kuru | so how do i create initrd.img ? |
| 21:36.01 | streuner | mwilson: usbutils |
| 21:36.02 | xophEr | anyone who has got a itex apollo2-based psi adsl modem working ? |
| 21:36.05 | mwilson | Overand: He thinks someone who asks him for details has "nothing to add". |
| 21:36.11 | shiner840 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:36.58 | streuner | mwilson: no - it shows nothing at all |
| 21:36.59 | stew | kuru: with mkinitrd |
| 21:37.07 | mwilson | streuner: Printer there not. |
| 21:37.11 | Overand | goron: the fact is, you *did* ask a question while providing NONE of us with enoigh info to actually help you. "I did something it doesn't work. help me." |
| 21:37.17 | Overand | goron: and now, yoyu're just being a troll |
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| 21:37.20 | streuner | mwilson: nothing |
| 21:37.27 | conrad10781 | so my question i guess is, is the package only meant for a "rescue disk" of the machine it is on? or can i set it up so it can change the display driver on boot. (because the xlog shows its trying to load a radion card like the one from the original, even if the other machine has a geforce, and the boot recognized it as that) |
| 21:37.29 | Overand | So, if you want help, we're willing to give it, or at least try, but please, be CIVIL |
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| 21:37.40 | mwilson | streuner: Like I said, printer there... not. :) |
| 21:38.04 | goron | Overand: Well, I said everything I changed. So I assumed you then would understand the situation. |
| 21:38.07 | stew | conrad10781: that package is only meant to make a bootable cd for a computer with the same hardware. |
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| 21:38.35 | Overand | goron: way to insult the entire channel. most of these people are bloody experts |
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| 21:38.46 | goron | Overand: I am not familiar with these tasks and it's a first time for everyting. |
| 21:38.47 | spoopin | conrad10781: I suspect that you'd be happier remastering Knoppix if you want a CD to drop in just about anywhere |
| 21:39.09 | Overand | you need to work on your people skills if you want to get meaningful help on IRC. Chewing out the people who want to help isn't a good place to start. |
| 21:39.46 | streuner | valdyn, mwilson: usblp module is installed, cups show me the printer well, but what next? |
| 21:39.49 | goron | Overand: I didn't insult anyone, nor did I intend to. I just wanted to express the fact that I didn't thought he was very helpfull(and he was the guy being all (look I am great))). |
| 21:39.53 | valdyn | conrad10781: bootcd creates a CD with a debian install, it does NOT add automatic redetection of hardware just like a debian install does not do that |
| 21:39.59 | conrad10781 | thanks spoopin and stew/ i was using it as a rescue disk, and someone asked about linux.. I just gave it to them, thinking i wouldn't hvae to download the knoppix iso... Thanks again |
| 21:40.20 | CyberShadow | a while ago someone mentioned here a new music player that's better than JuK... any idea what that might be |
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| 21:40.30 | mwilson | "look I am great"? I asked you for details twice, you refused to provide them, now you're Overand's problem. |
| 21:40.31 | Overand | goron: why bother saying someone isn't being helpful. either way, let's drop it and start over. |
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| 21:40.52 | valdyn | streuner: print something? |
| 21:40.56 | mwilson | streuner: I don't see how CUPS can show you the printer if lsusb doesn't see it. |
| 21:41.11 | streuner | mwilson: wanna see a ss? |
| 21:41.17 | spoopin | conrad10781: np |
| 21:41.20 | streuner | valdyn: nothing |
| 21:41.21 | goron | mwilson: Well, let we assume that I didn't understand you, although I think I did. |
| 21:41.27 | SquareRt | anyone know if the SBUS High Speed Serial Interface (RS-449) is supported on linux/sparc32, sun4m? |
| 21:41.27 | mwilson | It's not something you have to prove or not. |
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| 21:42.49 | mwilson | streuner: I just wonder if CUPS is showing you cached data or something. Go ahead and try to use it... you'll know quickly if it doesn't work. |
| 21:43.10 | spoopin | SquareRt: You might want to check kernel source/config for the answer on that one |
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| 21:43.32 | valdyn | streuner: i was assuming that you had "fixed" usb, prematurely obviously, no idea how/why cups can show your printer |
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| 21:44.03 | valdyn | streuner: if it does however only show the usb port, but not the printer name, then i doubt it did find the printer |
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| 21:44.18 | valdyn | mwilson: hehe |
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| 21:44.31 | wpg_guard | Hey all. I'm trying to design a circuit hooked up to an audio sensor that'll tell me when there's no more audio coming out. I'm wondering if there's an easy way of either checking the LPT's online or paper out pins in Debian. |
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| 21:44.53 | goron | Ok, here's the complete situation (any information not included means that I am unaware of the issue). I have two computers connected to my router. I believe my router is now called zonnebloem.demon.nl. Then I have a computer on which I am now(that's called "justok" for the moment (so I think this would expand to justok.zonnebloem.demon.nl, but I don't know, because I don't know the exact semantics of NAT (which my router uses). Then I have a second compute |
| 21:45.01 | mwilson | wpg_guard: it shouldn't be hard. Google is your friend. |
| 21:45.25 | mwilson | wpg_guard: The LPT port is TTL levels, though. |
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| 21:45.42 | wpg_guard | mwilson: <grin> Yeah, I know. Just thought someone might know. I've been googling a bit already. |
| 21:45.44 | valdyn | goron: you got truncated after "second compute" |
| 21:45.54 | kbs | Is there a systemwide fundamental limit on the total number of network connections that may be opened? [I realize that fs.file-max might need to be tweaked, and don't know what else needs to be upped] |
| 21:45.55 | goron | r called "uber". The first runs |
| 21:45.56 | goron | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.43 | goron | I apted samba and swat. I did what was needed to start it(as defined in the manpage). |
| 21:46.55 | mwilson | wpg_guard: You know, you don't really have to lie about using Google. |
| 21:46.59 | kbs | the basic question I have is (setting aside for a second any sysctl variables I need to tweak) is there a fundamental limit on the number of concurrently open tcp connections |
| 21:47.07 | goron | Then I went to localhost:901, and saw the webgui. |
| 21:47.45 | henrik_ | hi, i installed debian in finnish and i was wondering could that be the reason my artwiz fonts aren't working at all and if so can i change the installation to english without re-installing? |
| 21:47.55 | wpg_guard | mwilson: Not lying, just happen to be at work when this project came to mind, so I can't spend too much time on it here. |
| 21:48.14 | valdyn | henrik_: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:48.15 | goron | There I added a share called WindowsDisks. As path it has /mnt. |
| 21:48.33 | henrik_ | ok, i'll try that |
| 21:48.37 | mwilson | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=linux+LPT+port+input&btnG=Google+Search |
| 21:48.41 | goron | In the hosts allow section I also added "uber". |
| 21:48.48 | streuner | mwilson: the printer is on, http://weda.mine.nu/Namenlos.png |
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| 21:49.15 | goron | Overand: Do you need more information? |
| 21:49.18 | mwilson | Also the fifth link. |
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| 21:49.46 | valdyn | goron: does swat restart samba or did you do that? |
| 21:50.05 | valdyn | goron: are you starting samba as daemon or via inetd? |
| 21:50.10 | mwilson | streuner: That's not "CUPS sees my printer"... that's "CUPS has my printer installed, but can't see it" |
| 21:50.15 | goron | valdyn: inetd |
| 21:50.36 | cafuego | CUPS has no eyes |
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| 21:50.47 | streuner | mwilson: i know that my english is bs :-) |
| 21:50.48 | goron | valdyn: First question: don't know, but I am almost sure it restarts samba. |
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| 21:51.21 | mwilson | streuner: Until lsusb says the printer is connected, you're not going anywhere. |
| 21:51.32 | mwilson | rei $ lsusb |
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| 21:51.37 | mwilson | Bus 002 Device 007: ID 03f0:1204 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 930c |
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| 21:51.46 | valdyn | goron: "almost sure" is useless, "killall smbd && killall nmbd" does it, i dont know if theres a "proper" way |
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| 21:52.00 | mwilson | valdyn: Uh, that leaves them dead |
| 21:52.26 | valdyn | mwilson: inetd should respawn them? |
| 21:52.29 | goron | valdyn: I was just changing a value to see whether anything changed. |
| 21:52.31 | mwilson | valdyn: No. |
| 21:52.56 | mwilson | valdyn: If they were running from inetd, you wouldn't need to restart them, they'd go away and come back with each connection anyway. |
| 21:52.58 | valdyn | mwilson: i havent done this for years, i DO remember that killing the process worked, i might have forgotten a part though |
| 21:53.09 | spoopin | which package provides lsusb? |
| 21:53.13 | mwilson | valdyn: Debian doesn't run Samba from inetd. |
| 21:53.26 | streuner | spoopin: usbutils |
| 21:53.29 | goron | valdyn: Well, I changed a value, and smbtree gives different output (so the change took effect). |
| 21:53.30 | valdyn | mwilson: it deoes optionally |
| 21:53.37 | spoopin | streuner: thanks |
| 21:53.42 | cafuego | mwilson: it does it you tell it to, debconf asks at install time. |
| 21:53.44 | mwilson | valdyn: But not recommended. |
| 21:53.51 | valdyn | goron: ok. forget the other stuff then. |
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| 21:54.21 | valdyn | mwilson: indeed, which is why i long forgot about it ) |
| 21:54.47 | mwilson | streuner: Printer is powered on? Plugged directly into the computer, not into a hub? |
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| 21:55.16 | streuner | mwilson: printer is powered on, plugged directly into the usb port of the box itself |
| 21:55.31 | mwilson | streuner: Not offline? |
| 21:55.33 | goron | valdyn: What else can I do? |
| 21:55.33 | valdyn | goron: alright, i think you didnt add to your lenghty explanation what exactly didnt work |
| 21:55.39 | streuner | mwilson: of course not |
| 21:55.50 | mwilson | streuner: Self-tests properly? |
| 21:56.16 | streuner | mwilson: the printer worked 2 or 3 hours ago under 98 |
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| 21:56.34 | mwilson | streuner: Other USB devices are properly detected? |
| 21:56.45 | streuner | mwilson: nope |
| 21:57.05 | mwilson | streuner: USB support as modules, or built into the kernel? |
| 21:57.22 | streuner | mwilson: official kernel-image-2.6.9 |
| 21:57.35 | prcko | anyone that know how to fix a broken exim4 in sid |
| 21:57.35 | valdyn | goron: which command exactly did not work |
| 21:57.54 | mwilson | streuner: That's not what I asked. I have no way to know what's in a particular Debian kernel-image package. |
| 21:58.15 | spoopin | prcko: what's broken about it? |
| 21:58.29 | streuner | mwilson: i guess none of the USB modules are loaded, execpt the module valdyn told me |
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| 21:58.48 | goron | valdyn: If I start konqueror and go to smb://justok/WindowsDisks, it asks for my username and password. I give my linux username and password. It does *not* authenticate me. That's the problem. |
| 21:58.54 | valdyn | streuner: you dont use discover / hotplug at all? |
| 21:58.57 | mwilson | streuner: uhci_hcd is not loaded? |
| 21:58.58 | streuner | nope |
| 21:59.02 | prcko | spoopin: at latest update exim4 just wont install properly |
| 21:59.11 | streuner | mwilson: of course not |
| 21:59.19 | mwilson | streuner: Why "of course not"? |
| 21:59.23 | CyberShadow | what do the first 3 letters in /etc/rc?.d mean (or what man page should I consult)? |
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| 21:59.30 | valdyn | goron: are you using encrypted passwords on both computers? |
| 21:59.39 | streuner | mwilson: because the only USB device i have is that printer... |
| 21:59.59 | cafuego | goron: it eants you SAMBA user/pass details. |
| 22:00.17 | prcko | spoopin: writes out lots of stuff on display and then stops |
| 22:00.22 | redloff | does anyone (by the chance) happen to know, why the heck were hyundai Q910 monitors withdrawed and replaced with (much worse) Q990? |
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| 22:00.30 | mwilson | streuner: Humor me. |
| 22:00.30 | cafuego | goron: Did you add your details to smbpasswd? |
| 22:00.44 | spoopin | prcko: hmmm. This after a dist-upgrade? |
| 22:00.54 | streuner | mwilson: yeah :-) |
| 22:00.54 | valdyn | i suspect he just didnt use smbpasswd at all |
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| 22:01.23 | cafuego | goron: Windows can't authenticate against the normal passwd file, password is enctypted differently. |
| 22:01.28 | prcko | spoopin: no i have used sid for a file now and at -5 update y-day it behaved strange |
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| 22:01.49 | prcko | spoopin: s/file/while |
| 22:01.52 | Livingroom | Greetings citizens of #debian |
| 22:02.02 | goron | valdyn: For the moment I just want to access /mnt via samba on "justok", thus on a localhost. |
| 22:02.09 | mwilson | streuner: Now does lsusb see it? |
| 22:02.18 | Hydroxide | Livingroom: greetings holder of a #debian tourist visa |
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| 22:02.40 | cafuego | goron: You must nevertheless set up an account via smbpasswd before you can do that. |
| 22:02.47 | streuner | mwilson: hold on, need to load that the modules first |
| 22:02.49 | prcko | spoopin: seems like some debug info or similar |
| 22:02.54 | valdyn | goron: create an account with smbpasswd |
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| 22:03.02 | goron | cafuego: Does swat do that automatically? |
| 22:03.44 | valdyn | goron: log in as a user that wants to use samba, type "smbpasswd", enter it. |
| 22:03.54 | cafuego | goron: How exactly do you suppsoe SWAT would have decrypted your password from /etc/passwd and added it to 'smbpasswd' ? |
| 22:04.03 | Livingroom | actually i hold a permanent resident card |
| 22:04.08 | Livingroom | i've resided here since, like forever |
| 22:04.09 | goron | Old SMB password: |
| 22:04.09 | goron | New SMB password: |
| 22:04.09 | goron | Retype new SMB password: |
| 22:04.09 | goron | machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Accountdisabled. |
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| 22:04.16 | Livingroom | but this is my new name since some a-hole hijacked my old nick |
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| 22:04.34 | goron | How much lines did you get? |
| 22:04.36 | Livingroom | i even use debian, too! |
| 22:04.43 | cafuego | goron: Eerst user aanmaken. (smbpasswd -a) |
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| 22:05.32 | goron | machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Accountdisabled |
| 22:05.39 | cafuego | Livingroom: if your old nick was reserved and someone guessed the passwd, join #freeenode to see if an oper can help. |
| 22:05.46 | goron | cafuego: De user aanmaken ging wel goed(als in gaf geen fouten). |
| 22:05.53 | chealer | Raenius: damn, a mandrake user...I've been that too, no wonder you like debian :) |
| 22:05.57 | cafuego | goron: Dan enabled (smbpasswd -n) |
| 22:07.06 | goron | cafuego: ik draaide hem niet als root. |
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| 22:07.31 | Livingroom | i'm in #freenode but i have no voice |
| 22:07.48 | goron | Password changed for user ron |
| 22:07.56 | goron | cafuego: So now I have a user. |
| 22:08.49 | goron | cafuego: But still konqueror does not accept my username password combo. |
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| 22:09.01 | klinkz | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.04 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 22:09.05 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | Java -> /msg dpkg java | Spambots? /umode +E; Ask for an op | No, gnome 2.10 and kde 3.4 are not packaged yet | Sarge d-i rc3 out! /msg dpkg d-i | gluck ({packages,people}.debian.org) down |
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| 22:09.20 | gravity | :-( |
| 22:09.26 | dondelelcaro | diff: gluck has deeper problems than a simple fscking |
| 22:09.47 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: raid blew up? |
| 22:10.03 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah... there's a message on d-d-a about it |
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| 22:10.18 | goron | cafuego: :? |
| 22:10.52 | cafuego | goron: use 'smbclient' from the command line and check for errr messages. |
| 22:10.52 | dondelelcaro | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/04/msg00006.html |
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| 22:11.01 | dondelelcaro | !gluck problems is http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/04/msg00006.html |
| 22:11.02 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
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| 22:11.51 | startxblack | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:12.50 | Eclipser | is there a way to change between english and finnish keyboard on the fly for eterm/vim? |
| 22:13.10 | EvilSporkMan | there's nothing wrong with debian's GNOME, right? ubuntu people are just picky? |
| 22:13.35 | gravity | EvilSporkMan: It's fine |
| 22:13.52 | gravity | EvilSporkMan: It's not 2.10 but 2.8 works great |
| 22:14.15 | EvilSporkMan | gravity: grand. ditto for KDE? I've installed KDE on a friend's comp and it's convinced me to take a second look at desktop environments |
| 22:14.16 | ongeboren | gnome did have a version? |
| 22:14.43 | spoopin | prcko: you still there? |
| 22:14.49 | prcko | spoopin: yes |
| 22:14.53 | caphuso | ongeboren: dozens of them |
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| 22:14.58 | goron | cafuego: smbclient \\justok\WindowsDisk |
| 22:14.59 | goron | \justokWindowsDisk: Not enough '\' characters in service |
| 22:15.19 | ongeboren | caphuso, j/k |
| 22:15.24 | spoopin | prcko: sorry I had to get the phone. Can you paste the output into #flood? |
| 22:15.27 | goron | From the examples of the manpage: |
| 22:15.29 | goron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.30 | valdyn | goron: use / , not \ |
| 22:15.45 | gravity | EvilSporkMan: Debian's packages are just fine |
| 22:15.50 | resiak | goron: You need to either double up all the \s or use /s. |
| 22:16.00 | caphuso | goron: read the section about quoting in the man page of your shell |
| 22:16.14 | goron | Domain=[JUSTOK] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.11-Debian] |
| 22:16.15 | goron | smb: \> |
| 22:16.26 | goron | So this seems to work. |
| 22:16.28 | prcko | spoopin: need to get figure how to do it never fiddled wit that before |
| 22:16.29 | EvilSporkMan | gravity: kay thanks |
| 22:17.12 | goron | And if I ever want to use it on Windows, will the forward slash also work? |
| 22:17.55 | goron | But why doesn't it just work via konqueror then? |
| 22:18.00 | valdyn | goron: for windows shares yes, but on windows use \ |
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| 22:18.26 | goron | valdyn: Ok, that's what I thought. |
| 22:18.42 | yoh_ | Hi Debianers! Any gurus of apt? |
| 22:18.56 | streuner | just ask |
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| 22:19.09 | stephen_ | hello everyone.. |
| 22:19.33 | yoh_ | I have next source "deb file:/net/debmirror/share/debmirror/debian/ sid main contrib non-free rumba" and I want to give packages from rumba higher priority because they are patched versions with the same version number (via apt-src) |
| 22:19.35 | stephen_ | Can you put a module into a kernel .. the module was created after the kernel compile |
| 22:19.37 | goron | valdyn: But how can I tell konqueror to get to my share? |
| 22:19.41 | yoh_ | is there an easy way to pin them? |
| 22:19.45 | valdyn | goron: mount -t smbfs -o username=ron,password=blah //computer/share /mnt/ |
| 22:19.54 | deadcat | stephen_: yes. |
| 22:19.56 | stephen_ | the machine is live.. just want to give it smbfs capabilities |
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| 22:20.14 | valdyn | goron: i have no idea, try the command above to see if you can mount shares |
| 22:20.22 | yoh_ | "pin: origin" seems to be not that advanced to help in this case |
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| 22:20.34 | stephen_ | deadcat: so i just recompile the kernel with smbfs as a module.. then copy the module over and insmod? |
| 22:20.37 | deadcat | stephen_: usually when people compile modules, are 3rd party, smbfs is so generic dont know if you can find it and compile it. |
| 22:20.59 | deadcat | stephen_: that i dont know. |
| 22:21.11 | resiak | yoh_: man apt-preferences |
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| 22:21.21 | stephen_ | ok.. thanks deadcat¬! |
| 22:21.24 | CyberShadow | Argh! I have installed and configured gpm, and after I rebooted I did have a mouse in the console, but all it did is jerk around, copying/pasting text at random - and also the mouse doesn't work in X! |
| 22:21.55 | CyberShadow | I have a PS/2 mouse, and tried both autops2 and imps2 (which works with X) with gdm. |
| 22:21.58 | stephen_ | deadcat: it can be made a module.. |
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| 22:22.05 | stephen_ | whats the likely hood of it working? |
| 22:22.07 | deadcat | CyberShadow: which howto did you follow? |
| 22:22.22 | CyberShadow | someone here just told me to install gpm |
| 22:22.29 | CyberShadow | which I did |
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| 22:22.41 | deadcat | !gpm |
| 22:22.41 | dpkg | rumour has it, gpm is if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
| 22:22.55 | deadcat | CyberShadow: follow ^^ and see if it works or not |
| 22:23.00 | goron | ERROR: smbfs filesystem not supported by the kernel. Ok, well, I have done that before. |
| 22:23.19 | deadcat | goron: modprobe smbfs? |
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| 22:23.46 | CyberShadow | deadcat: ok, but my mouse still will jerk around in the console (and if it'll repeat in X, it will jerk around in X too) |
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| 22:23.50 | valdyn | goron: custom kernel and no smbfs support? |
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| 22:24.24 | juxi_ | hallo |
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| 22:24.55 | prcko | spoopin: cant figure out on how to make it so i can paste it in #flood |
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| 22:25.09 | goron | valdyn: Indeed. As I said I have done that before. Thanks. |
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| 22:25.46 | juxi_ | by |
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| 22:26.22 | mwilson | streuner: I had to step away... figured it out? |
| 22:26.32 | streuner | not yet |
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| 22:27.15 | ethics | morning all |
| 22:27.19 | yoh_ | resiak: damn... I've been there a few times already and didn't see "Component: " :-) damn me... thanx :-) |
| 22:27.31 | resiak | yoh_: No worries. |
| 22:28.08 | CyberShadow | anybody know any reasons of why after I installed gpm all my mouse would do is jerk around? |
| 22:28.23 | resiak | CyberShadow: Did you even read the tutorials you were shown links to? |
| 22:28.32 | Thunder- | Cyanophytes, wrong mouse protocol configured in gpm |
| 22:28.34 | Thunder- | er |
| 22:28.38 | Thunder- | CyberShadow |
| 22:28.49 | slekky | I am running debian 2.6.8.1 and whenever I try to do a rm -rf * inside a directory it gives me an error : read only filesystem , this doesnt change even when I am root |
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| 22:28.59 | CyberShadow | hmm, ok. /me wonders how to "click" that link... |
| 22:29.22 | ethics | hey anyone used Tora? im a little confused by the way it installed itself.... |
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| 22:29.26 | resiak | slekky: Well, perhaps you're on a read-only filesystem. |
| 22:29.31 | pgimeno | hi! is there any kind of log of the packages I install, remove or update? |
| 22:29.40 | resiak | CyberShadow: Have you got that old-fashioned pen and paper handy? |
| 22:29.48 | Vegar | What do you recommend for connecting to RasPPPoE? |
| 22:29.49 | CyberShadow | :) |
| 22:29.56 | valdyn | !tell CyberShadow about gpm |
| 22:29.59 | slekky | I didnt do anything to make it read only, I am a new user and I just did the standard debian web install |
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| 22:30.13 | ethics | Tora...how to access oracle if the the database server is not the sarge box?.. |
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| 22:30.33 | ethics | i get connect options for mysql & PostGRE |
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| 22:30.39 | bbrazil | pgimeno: if you use aptitude it makes one |
| 22:30.45 | ethics | but no oracle connection option |
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| 22:30.53 | slekky | how do I run fsck without the partitions loading up? |
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| 22:31.10 | pgimeno | bbrazil: I mainly use dselect |
| 22:31.16 | bbrazil | pgimeno: *shudder* |
| 22:31.22 | pgimeno | k, thanks |
| 22:31.38 | mikkel | i have a usb key, but how do i mount it? or browse it ? |
| 22:31.48 | bbrazil | pgimeno: I used to use dselect, I strongly reccomend aptitude over it |
| 22:32.07 | valdyn | !tell mikkel about usb-storage |
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| 22:32.16 | slekky | how would I change a read only filesystem to writable? I have afew .c files inside my /work directory and when I try to rm -rf them I cant, I get a input/output error and then it says read only filesystem? any ideas? |
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| 22:32.21 | ron_ | tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED |
| 22:32.37 | pgimeno | bbrazil: I'll try it once more... thanks for the tip |
| 22:32.43 | ron_ | I am now on my other machine and this is what I get when I connect to the share. |
| 22:32.50 | prcko | spoopin: u there |
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| 22:34.23 | valdyn | slekky: its readonly because there are problems, that were found while booting |
| 22:34.56 | valdyn | slekky: fsck was then run probably, could not fix the errors safely, and you did after that not fix those errors manually |
| 22:35.04 | mwilson | streuner: Printer still a no show, huh? |
| 22:35.35 | streuner | mwilson: i did something wrong at the installation process of packages |
| 22:36.12 | streuner | mwilson: it asked me something like 'lpd or bsd' or such and it removed a package then... |
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| 22:36.34 | valdyn | slekky: run fsck on the filesystem, see what happens |
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| 22:37.32 | slekky | valdyn: it says that I have mounted partitions and I may damage them |
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| 22:37.52 | slekky | how do I unmount and run fsck? |
| 22:38.07 | slekky | I wouldnt be on a terminal anymore if I reboot or unmount |
| 22:38.33 | prcko | spoopin: the info i got is a 120kb big file from my exim4 prob |
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| 22:40.14 | valdyn | slekky: type "mount", it its mounted (ro), then you can safely fsck it |
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| 22:41.24 | valdyn | slekky: but before you do this, backup your important data |
| 22:42.14 | slekky | so at a terminal I just type mount? and then fsck ? |
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| 22:42.27 | SuperSox | !kernel |
| 22:42.29 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.11.6, prepatch: 2.6.12-rc2, 2.4: 2.4.30, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac6, -mm patch: 2.6.12-rc1-mm4 |
| 22:42.36 | SuperSox | not what I wanted :\ |
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| 22:42.51 | simonrvn | oh, 2.4.30 is out |
| 22:43.08 | valdyn | slekky: yes, just type mount, it will list "(rw)" or "(ro)", ro filesystems can safely be fsck'ed |
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| 22:44.49 | slekky | valdyn: I did that and only 1 of them is (ro) rest all are (rw) I get: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount=ro) |
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| 22:45.21 | CyberShadow | hey! I have done what you told me, followed that guide, and everything is just as I predicted: now the mouse cursor jerks BOTH in console and X! |
| 22:45.41 | valdyn | slekky: wherever your /work is.. i don know |
| 22:45.45 | valdyn | slekky: wherever your /work is.. i dont know |
| 22:45.47 | CyberShadow | Something's wrong with gpm's protocol - X understando my mouse perfectly! |
| 22:45.59 | CyberShadow | *understands |
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| 22:46.31 | abrotman | isn't peterS the gpm guru? |
| 22:46.33 | valdyn | slekky: which partition is your /work on? |
| 22:46.35 | abrotman | !gpm |
| 22:46.35 | dpkg | gpm is, like, if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
| 22:46.38 | abrotman | see |
| 22:46.57 | CyberShadow | abrotman: I see that the 3rd time today |
| 22:47.27 | abrotman | CyberShadow: heh .. ok |
| 22:47.31 | CyberShadow | the problem is, I CAN'T get my mouse to work (properly) with gpm |
| 22:47.34 | abrotman | and gpm is the devil |
| 22:47.43 | peterS | speaking of whom, he shall appear |
| 22:47.44 | slekky | valdyn: yeah that is in /dev/hda9 on /home (rw) , work is in /home/slek/work should I just unmount that and fsck it ? |
| 22:48.12 | peterS | CyberShadow: what mouse type? what type of port is it plugged into? |
| 22:48.17 | valdyn | CyberShadow: so youre still running X and gpm at the same time and X is not using /dev/gpmdata? |
| 22:48.37 | slekky | i would just like to run fsck on the whole thing just to make the whole driver work better |
| 22:48.46 | CyberShadow | It's a Genius NetScroll+Eye, PS/2 |
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| 22:48.47 | valdyn | slekky: "mount -o remount,ro /home/" |
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| 22:49.04 | valdyn | slekky: "mount -o remount,rw /home/" to make it writable again later |
| 22:49.08 | CyberShadow | valdyn: yes, X IS using /dev/mouse which is linked to /dev/gpmdata |
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| 22:49.10 | valdyn | slekky: unmounting sure works too |
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| 22:49.47 | Vegar | My ISP suddenly changed to use RasPPPoE. What software do I need for that? |
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| 22:49.48 | CyberShadow | before I configured repeating, the mouse would jerk only with gpm on the terminal; now it jerks in X too |
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| 22:50.36 | nait | anybody have any good pointers to info on configuring PCI audio in debian? |
| 22:50.45 | peterS | CyberShadow: the genius mice are a bit annoying. tried the 'netmouse' gpm protocol? |
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| 22:50.47 | nait | I have all of the info here |
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| 22:50.57 | ethics | nait: what kernel are you on? |
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| 22:51.10 | CyberShadow | peterS: no, just different *ps2 flavours, gonna try that |
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| 22:51.28 | nait | 2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 22:51.47 | SuperSox | hi, I get a problem when I try to apt-get install a kernel image |
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| 22:51.50 | SuperSox | Setting up kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 (2.6.8-13) ... |
| 22:51.50 | SuperSox | mkcramfs: ROM image write failed (wrote 655360 of 4812800 bytes): No space left on device? |
| 22:52.17 | SuperSox | its because I have a small 10mb /boot, any way round it? :o |
| 22:52.18 | ethics | ok 2.4 doesn't have alsa built in so you will need to either recompile your kernel or load the driver as a module |
| 22:52.20 | CyberShadow | peterS: no mouse at all with the "netmouse" protocol |
| 22:52.43 | malte_ | yo. does anyone know if apt-get follows a specific algorithm for where to put stuff in /var/lib/dpkg/status? blam was placed at 47% but foomatic-gui at %6 (of the file length) |
| 22:52.51 | cafuego | SuperSox: Yeh. 1) make /boot bigger 2) Compile a custom kernel without initrd requirements. |
| 22:52.57 | CyberShadow | well, the point is, X understands my mouse perfectly if I don't "route" it through gpm |
| 22:53.07 | nait | ethics: that would be the via82cxxx_audio module? |
| 22:53.14 | peterS | CyberShadow: I'm not sure if gpm supports all Genius mice or not. it may be that it doesn't |
| 22:53.15 | SuperSox | cafuego: how would I make /boot bigger, I usually roll my own kernels, but I want to investigate having apt handle them |
| 22:53.17 | CyberShadow | so something must be wrong with gpm's protocol |
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| 22:53.26 | Cyanophytes | I need to have a script wait for a temp file to be deleted before it continues is there a way to keep a script loop untill the file is gone? I have looked on google but i'm not really good with shell scripts. |
| 22:53.36 | peterS | CyberShadow: so yeah, don't route your mouse through gpm, at least until you can get gpm itself to work properly with it |
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| 22:53.51 | yoh_ | Is there a way to debug logic of APT when it goes through the packages with different pin values? For my apt rule "deb file:/net/debmirror/share/debmirror/debian/ sid main contrib non-free rumba" I've placed a Release file into debian/sid/rumba/binary-i386/Release with "Component: rumba" and then pinned it in apt/preferences to "Pin: release c=rumba" and pin 1001 but it still picks up that package from the main archive and not from rumba |
| 22:53.51 | CyberShadow | ok. any way I can make X repeat the mouse for GPM? :) |
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| 22:54.39 | nait | ethics: I'll give that a shot, ta |
| 22:54.45 | CyberShadow | peterS: what's odd, there was a SuSE 8.2 on this machine earlier, and gpm worked fine on it |
| 22:55.02 | SuperSox | Anyone any suggestions on how i can increase the size of /boot ? |
| 22:55.14 | peterS | CyberShadow: file a bug, would you? use 'reportbug'. please include the version of gpm used on your suse system |
| 22:55.15 | gravity | SuperSox: parted |
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| 22:55.27 | ethics | nait: try aptitude and installing alsaconf and all recommendeds |
| 22:55.27 | SuperSox | gravity: i'll investigate, thanks :) |
| 22:55.54 | CyberShadow | peterS: as soon as I'll get the harddrive on which it's installed, I'll be sure to do that |
| 22:55.55 | peterS | CyberShadow: 3 possibilities here: either suse is using a newer version of gpm, or suse is using a 2.6 kernel which knows about your genius mouse, or I've overlooked something |
| 22:55.56 | yoh_ | SuperSox: and make sure that you really need it :-) |
| 22:56.07 | ethics | nait: be aware you may need to unmute or turn the main volumes up in alsamixer or something....defaults on some things are mute or zero |
| 22:56.23 | yoh_ | SuperSox: most of the time you can just live with /boot in / nowadays |
| 22:56.32 | CyberShadow | peterS: it's SuSE 8.2 from 2001-2002 which I never updated, so the first 2 are unlikely |
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| 22:56.54 | peterS | CyberShadow: then I'll be interested in the command line suse is running, as well. 'ps -fu root | grep gpm' or whatever |
| 22:57.00 | SuperSox | yoh_ gravity, now getting the error: Error: Partition /dev/hda1 is being used. You must unmount it before you modify it with Parted. |
| 22:57.07 | SuperSox | am I going to have to do this from a live cd? |
| 22:57.19 | gravity | SuperSox: Yeah, or you can unmount /boot |
| 22:57.21 | CyberShadow | (no offence...) I'll experiment with it and keep you in touch |
| 22:57.31 | gravity | SuperSox: I don't think you need it live if it's a separate partition from the rest of your stuff |
| 22:57.32 | peterS | CyberShadow: that would be great |
| 22:57.35 | SuperSox | gravity: I get device is busy |
| 22:57.46 | gravity | SuperSox: Then yeah... maybe a liveCD |
| 22:57.47 | SuperSox | gravity: its on the same physical disk |
| 22:57.54 | SuperSox | arse, don't have one to hand :) |
| 22:57.55 | yoh_ | SuperSox: yeap - just umount it |
| 22:57.59 | gravity | SuperSox: I don't know that that matters, but I'm no partition expert |
| 22:58.00 | nait | ethics: thanks again, trying that |
| 22:58.13 | SuperSox | lyra:/home/supersox# umount /boot |
| 22:58.13 | SuperSox | umount: /boot: device is busy |
| 22:58.22 | yoh_ | SuperSox:probably you end up live cd because you would need to squeeze next partition as well |
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| 22:58.33 | SuperSox | :\ |
| 22:58.36 | yoh_ | SuperSox: cd / and then umount |
| 22:58.37 | ethics | nait: np |
| 22:58.50 | SuperSox | yoh_: nah still the same |
| 22:59.01 | yoh_ | SuperSox: and make sure that none of the bashes inside |
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| 22:59.14 | SuperSox | yoh_: they shouldn't be |
| 22:59.15 | yoh_ | SuperSox: did you do su/sudo when you were in /boot already? |
| 22:59.18 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | hello |
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| 22:59.21 | SuperSox | yoh_: nope |
| 22:59.21 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | I am from Argentina |
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| 22:59.27 | Sirgado | buenas.. |
| 22:59.28 | prcko | spoopin: got a file with info for u about exim4 prob |
| 22:59.29 | SuperSox | yoh_: haven't gone anywhere near boot |
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| 22:59.33 | Sirgado | hi |
| 22:59.34 | yoh_ | SuperSox: fuser /boot |
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| 22:59.58 | SuperSox | lyra:/# fuser /boot |
| 22:59.58 | SuperSox | /boot: |
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| 23:00.28 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | Sirgado sos Argentino?? |
| 23:00.29 | SuperSox | how iritating |
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| 23:00.34 | cafuego | !es |
| 23:00.34 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:00.37 | tolga | hi, I installed kernel-source-2.6.8, and compile it. But it didn't worked. Kernel panics. it says input correct root. it is set to root=/dev/hda1 on lilo |
| 23:00.54 | yoh_ | SuperSox: so no PIDs light up on fuser ? |
| 23:00.55 | cafuego | tolga: You forgot initrd. |
| 23:00.56 | bucky | !ar |
| 23:00.57 | dpkg | ar is probably argon or a program to create, modify, and extract from archives (man ar), or in binutils |
| 23:00.59 | SuperSox | yoh_: nope |
| 23:01.04 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | cafuego vos?? |
| 23:01.05 | tolga | there is no initrd |
| 23:01.16 | cafuego | tolga: Just use kernel-image-2.6.8 instead. |
| 23:01.19 | war- | how do turn off logrotating? when I type apt-get --purge remoge logrotate ahh it tries to remove apache / squid /etc! |
| 23:01.21 | nait | ethics: ahh, it's not recognizing the default device |
| 23:01.23 | cafuego | !tell ArGeNtO_100x100 -about es |
| 23:01.23 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | ok |
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| 23:01.27 | Empty | What's the highest allowable UID? |
| 23:01.29 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | bye bye |
| 23:01.41 | yoh_ | SuperSox: strange... it is either gives something like /boot: PID PID. or doens't give anything including /boot... in your case it gave /boot: ... hm |
| 23:01.43 | cafuego | Empty: 2^16 -1 |
| 23:01.43 | ArGeNtO_100x100 | byebyebyebyebyebybeyebyebeyebyebeybeybeybeyebyebyebeybeybeyebyebebeybeybeybeyebyb |
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| 23:01.51 | Empty | cafuego, thanks |
| 23:02.00 | cafuego | 2**16 - 1 |
| 23:02.02 | SuperSox | yoh_: yeah, slightly frustrating |
| 23:02.05 | cafuego | !2**16 - 1 |
| 23:02.05 | dpkg | 65535 |
| 23:02.14 | cafuego | dat's right |
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| 23:02.21 | ethics | nait: if you have all the alsa stuff installed you may just be able to type alsaconf and it will try automagic |
| 23:02.23 | tolga | cafuego : i'm making with make-kpkg. when i run lilo. It warns me |
| 23:02.26 | tolga | Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. |
| 23:02.27 | tolga | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.27 | Sirgado | hi |
| 23:02.41 | cafuego | tolga: Did you configure the source properly? |
| 23:02.42 | Sirgado | does anybody uses spca5xx driver for webcam? |
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| 23:02.53 | tolga | cafuego : I think yes |
| 23:02.55 | yoh_ | SuperSox: my bad -- it gives it if it is mounted.... fuser -v /boot/ ? |
| 23:03.06 | tolga | but there is no initrd |
| 23:03.17 | SuperSox | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.17 | SuperSox | /boot/ root kernel mount /boot |
| 23:03.21 | yoh_ | SuperSox: probably it will say that it is kernel mounted... I'm not sure here if we can force it to umount |
| 23:03.23 | SuperSox | yoh_: ^ |
| 23:03.24 | cafuego | tolga: Did you configure it for use with initrd? Nor not? |
| 23:03.38 | ethics | nait: im on the 2.6.X kernel which has alsa in it's kernel....everyone says go to 2.6 if you want sound and 2.4 can be painful to get going on occasion |
| 23:03.54 | Sirgado | I downloaded it, extract source, make clean and make but it crash (syntax error near unpextec token) |
| 23:03.55 | tolga | cafuego : is there a initrd section on menuconfig? |
| 23:03.58 | SuperSox | yoh_: forcing it just brought up some more errors heh |
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| 23:04.11 | cafuego | tolga: Is there a reason you didn't just use the precompiled kernel? |
| 23:04.29 | kjp | Anyone know if people.debian.org will be back up anytime soon? |
| 23:04.33 | tolga | cafuego : precompiled kernel is not working |
| 23:04.37 | cafuego | kjp: /topic |
| 23:04.38 | tolga | too |
| 23:04.39 | yoh_ | SuperSox: livecd then :-) anyways - may be go without boot at all? just have /boot from /? |
| 23:04.43 | gravity | kjp: It's having serious problems |
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| 23:04.55 | mwilson | gravity: Did anyone say what was actually wrong with it? |
| 23:04.59 | Pakal | If I'm installing the Nvidia module kernel, should I remove the DRI section of my XF86config-4 configuration file? |
| 23:04.59 | nait | ethics: alright, maybe I'll try 2.6, haven't yet. This is the first time I've dealt with debian, I like it |
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| 23:05.04 | SuperSox | yoh_: could do, but how would I tell apt not to use /boot? ;) |
| 23:05.06 | cafuego | tolga: That's not a useful error report. |
| 23:05.07 | kjp | gravity dangit. |
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| 23:05.17 | tolga | cafuego, what? |
| 23:05.17 | gravity | mwilson: I don't think it's known yet |
| 23:05.24 | cafuego | kjp: Data corrupted on bad raid5 with 2 busted disks. |
| 23:05.33 | SuperSox | I /might/ be able to clear enough space in boot |
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| 23:05.44 | kjp | cafuego, yeah and the kde packages for amd64 are stored there. suckage. |
| 23:05.45 | cafuego | tolga: "precompiled kernel is not working" -> That is a USELESS error message. |
| 23:05.49 | McLamb | heh, i just realized i had 2 cpus |
| 23:06.00 | cafuego | kjp: That's why I run Ubuntu on the amd64 *smirk* |
| 23:06.04 | yoh_ | SuperSox: sorry - I don't get the question... apt will use boot but it will be on a / partition... everything will be the same... |
| 23:06.08 | kjp | McLamb either you're drunk or .... nevermind. |
| 23:06.08 | tolga | cafuego, it panics too |
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| 23:06.22 | nait | ethics: ta, I'm going to try a couple other things, I'll prolly be back |
| 23:06.23 | thingfish | cafuego you naughty |
| 23:06.24 | cafuego | tolga: You're missing initrd stanzas in lilo.conf, then. |
| 23:06.25 | tolga | cafuego, i don't remember the error message |
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| 23:06.46 | tolga | cafuego, there is no initrd after installing kernel |
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| 23:06.52 | cafuego | Oooh, kernel.org got upgraded yesterday. |
| 23:07.05 | cafuego | tolga: if you install a precompiled 2.6.8 there is. |
| 23:07.06 | SuperSox | yoh_: ah yeah, either way i still need to remove /boot with a live cd or the like |
| 23:07.10 | McLamb | no, it was my dads new dell, its got dual HT 3.4 p4s, i set it up with folding hoping it doesn't melt |
| 23:07.13 | kjp | anyone know of secret mirrors of gluck? |
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| 23:07.25 | cafuego | 2x Quad Opteron servers, each with 24 GB of RAM and 10 TB of disk |
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| 23:07.31 | yacoob | Eh. |
| 23:07.38 | yoh_ | SuperSox: yeap... but you will not need to resize, which takes looong time if next partition is large and heavily used |
| 23:07.50 | SuperSox | I've cleared and backed up /boot |
| 23:07.50 | mwilson | cafuego: TWO broken disks? |
| 23:07.52 | tolga | cafuego, is this a solution? I don't want to use precompiled kernel. becouse it is not working too |
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| 23:07.54 | yacoob | Exactly three fonts (FreeSans, FreeSerif, FreeMono) have colorful blurry edges. What gives? |
| 23:07.57 | SuperSox | we'll see if I've got enough space |
| 23:08.05 | CyberShadow | another question: up to the moment I start gdm (I like to start it manually), I can't access the other terminals with Alt F1-F7. After that, terminals 2-6 are just blank. |
| 23:08.23 | cafuego | mwilson: Apparently, yes. Then again, maybe the controller is fucked and the disks are fine. |
| 23:08.24 | CyberShadow | Do I need no enable multiple consoles oslt? |
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| 23:08.47 | cafuego | tolga: The problem is that you dodn't configure the boot loader properly. Not that the kernel isn't working. |
| 23:09.04 | SuperSox | ahhh, the smallest amount of space I'm short by :( |
| 23:09.05 | McLamb | my question: do duals processor computers get significantly hotter when run at 100% |
| 23:09.11 | yoh_ | SuperSox: I wouldn't clear it out... I would leave it intact... boot with live CD .. copy mounted /boot (mounted elsewhere) into /boot on /, |
| 23:09.21 | cafuego | McLamb: No, because they have twice the CPU fans. |
| 23:09.30 | mwilson | yacoob: Are you STILL going on about this? |
| 23:09.35 | McLamb | makes since, thanks |
| 23:09.38 | ethics | anyone a guru on spamassasin setup? i want to use spamassasin to filter the passon to an exchange server (cough SUCKS) |
| 23:09.42 | cafuego | McLamb: 'sense' |
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| 23:09.49 | tolga | cafuego, well tell me how to configure then. I set root=/dev/hda1 and add vmlinuz part. But there is no initrd file after compilation or installation |
| 23:10.00 | mwilson | cafuego: Hope it was backed up recently. |
| 23:10.12 | McLamb | cafuego: i thought neither was a word for 16 years |
| 23:10.13 | cafuego | McLamb: If they run at 100% for a long time, the ambient case temperature will go up, as the case needs to dump more heat. |
| 23:10.13 | yacoob | mwilson: if by 'still' you mean 'from yesterday' - yes :> Did a bit tweaking with fontconfig, nothing helped. |
| 23:10.15 | tolga | cafuego, I think, these was enough things to configure lilo |
| 23:10.16 | yoh_ | SuperSox: which bootloader are you using? probably it has to be called to adjust the hooks... |
| 23:10.18 | wizard_2 | I mistakenly appended a few pcap files together in hopes it would combine them, it actually breaks them - I found mergecap and it does the job but I've already got a bunch of pcaps I've already catted together (cat *.pcap >> fullcap) and I no longer have the original files - mergecap will take as much as the first file's worth off the top of the fullcap and then see's the rest as a single record - anyone know how I can salvage this? |
| 23:10.23 | SuperSox | yoh_: yeah, don't have a live cd to hand at the moment, just trying this, but it didn't work, so I'll grab a live cd next time I'm back at my flat |
| 23:10.26 | SuperSox | yoh_: lilo |
| 23:10.33 | cafuego | tolga: Which debian revision are you on? |
| 23:10.40 | McLamb | cafuego: would 90 or 80% help that alot? |
| 23:10.44 | SuperSox | yoh_: its not a problem, I'll be able to resize or remove /boot tommorow |
| 23:10.46 | tolga | cafuego, 3.1 |
| 23:10.57 | McLamb | not going to get fans or coolent systems |
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| 23:11.02 | yoh_ | SuperSox: running lilo wouldn't hurt I assume :-) ok - good luck... seems tha tnobody replied my question - have to go :-) |
| 23:11.05 | cafuego | McLamb: Not really. Are you running dinstributed.net or something? |
| 23:11.09 | simonrvn | 'coolant' |
| 23:11.11 | McLamb | yes |
| 23:11.16 | cafuego | McLamb: <heh> |
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| 23:11.26 | McLamb | just for the hell of it kind of stuff |
| 23:11.26 | cafuego | Waste of fossil fuels. |
| 23:11.38 | McLamb | your probably right |
| 23:11.51 | cafuego | Save $20 on your yearly electricity bill by not running it ;-) |
| 23:12.07 | yacoob | mwilson: why asking, tho? |
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| 23:12.25 | ethics | *points at his genetically modified hamster which has been on steroid traiining to spin his wheel fast enough to power a twin 3G p4....way too how in here still |
| 23:12.40 | cafuego | tolga: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-$VERSION *will* create an initrd image for you. Well, your self-compiled modules directory might be in the way, so maybe it errors. |
| 23:13.07 | yoh_ | Is there a way to debug logic of APT when it goes through the packages with different pin values? For my apt rule "deb file:/net/debmirror/share/debmirror/debian/ sid main contrib non-free rumba" I've placed a Release file into debian/sid/rumba/binary-i386/Release with "Component: rumba" and then pinned it in apt/preferences to "Pin: release c=rumba" and pin 1001 but it still picks up that package from the main archive and not from rumba |
| 23:13.10 | dvs | cafuego: no, $VERSION will put it in a separate directory |
| 23:13.26 | cafuego | mwilson: From the way they're apprently trying to recover data, maybe not (backed up). They reckon it's been writing corrupted data to disk (/home and /org) for a while. |
| 23:13.38 | cafuego | dvs: *kick* |
| 23:13.41 | tolga | cafuego, ok |
| 23:13.57 | cafuego | dvs: if $VERSION is 2.6.8 it will put it in the *same* directory. |
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| 23:14.03 | cafuego | dvs: And thus in the way. |
| 23:14.06 | gravity | yoh_: I don't know of any way to do that, but hacking apt to be able to do so would be extremely helpful |
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| 23:14.54 | dvs | cafuego: In my book, $VERSION would be something like "k7" or "386" |
| 23:15.00 | yoh_ | gravity: thanx! I'm looking at the code at the moment, but I'm not sure if I want to mess with placing debugging hooks :) will see :-) |
| 23:15.19 | dvs | cafuego: It wouldn't mess with his custom compiled kernel |
| 23:15.24 | cafuego | dvs: it's a possibility but not a certainty. |
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| 23:15.48 | cafuego | dvs: it might, as he compiled it from the debian source. |
| 23:15.58 | gravity | yoh_: Probably a better thing would be to provide an easy to way to set up pinning properly |
| 23:16.08 | gravity | yoh_: It seems like it's very much subject to human error |
| 23:16.09 | dvs | cafuego: Using kernel-package? |
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| 23:16.29 | cafuego | dvs: no idea. he's not very forthcoming with USEFUL info. |
| 23:16.34 | yoh_ | gravity: BTW - are you using apt-src? I thought to go simple way -- just append another letter to package debian subversions, like bla_1.0.0-1 becomes bla_1.0.0-1a... but it seems that apt-src doesn't have such facility, doesn't it? |
| 23:16.48 | dvs | cafuego: Unless he used the "--append-to-version" option, they probably won't collide. |
| 23:16.57 | gravity | yoh_: I don't know, sorry |
| 23:17.00 | gravity | I don't use apt-src much |
| 23:17.07 | cafuego | dvs: Off you go to help him, then. |
| 23:17.16 | kreg | can the FORWARD table drop a mac address? |
| 23:17.23 | dvs | cafuego: Too bad he left |
| 23:17.26 | yoh_ | gravity: yeap -- simple rules work fine, but when it gets "advanced" - it is try/guess approach :-) Thank you for all your help! |
| 23:17.39 | SuperSox | humm, if I don't use a 2.6 kernel I might get away with it for tonight, then tommorow I can use 2.6 :) |
| 23:17.39 | gravity | yoh_: Good luck |
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| 23:18.15 | CyberShadow | before I start gdm (I start it manually), I can't access the other terminals with Alt F1-F7. After that, terminals 2-6 are just blank. What do I need to enable/install/read? |
| 23:18.18 | PDani | hi |
| 23:18.39 | war- | how do turn off logrotating? when I type apt-get --purge remoge logrotate ahh it tries to remove apache / squid /etc! |
| 23:18.57 | war- | or tell me the reason why on 1 box it makes my new logs (which it logs to ) mail.log.0 instead of mail.log |
| 23:18.59 | cafuego | war-: yes,a s they all depend on logrotate. |
| 23:19.02 | war- | same config too |
| 23:19.15 | Cyanophytes | can someone help me with a script in flood? |
| 23:19.18 | PDani | how can i find out that what hardware sensors chip i have, and which option should i compile into my kernel? |
| 23:19.26 | cafuego | war-: if you want it disabled, make cron.daily not run 'logrotate'. |
| 23:19.28 | dvs | war-: check out /etc/logrotate.d |
| 23:20.28 | war- | dvs: yeah, same as the other box, and on 1 box = all my (active) logs are blah.log.0 but will check again |
| 23:20.28 | caphuso | PDani: compile them all as modules and use sensors-detect |
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| 23:20.28 | cafuego | PDani: 1) Check the mainboard manual. 2) Compile them all in, then use sensors-detect. |
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| 23:21.31 | gberardi | At work, I just apt-get update/upgraded and the "system terminal font" in gnome-terminal is different. I don't want the same thing to happen on my home system. Does anyone know where or what is being changed? |
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| 23:21.50 | war- | gberardi: font hinting was turned on, edit .fontrc |
| 23:21.53 | war- | .fonts.conf rather |
| 23:21.55 | war- | to turn it off |
| 23:22.19 | gberardi | war-: I presume this is supposed to be in my home directory? |
| 23:22.24 | war- | gberardi: yup |
| 23:22.50 | gberardi | war-: I see .fonts.cache-1 |
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| 23:22.50 | war- | gberardi: its part of gnome fonts |
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| 23:22.52 | war- | gberardi: you can edit it in control center |
| 23:23.05 | gberardi | ah. |
| 23:23.30 | gberardi | I've been using fluxbox all this time and didn't even think to look there |
| 23:23.35 | war- | =-o |
| 23:24.08 | kreg | can a mac address be dropped at the FORWARD table? |
| 23:24.32 | gberardi | war-: ok, I see now. And when I do update/upgrade, I guess Monospace 10 will be changed to something else. |
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| 23:24.43 | gberardi | Well here goes nothing. Thanks |
| 23:24.43 | war- | gberardi: happened to me too |
| 23:24.46 | war- | gberardi: k |
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| 23:26.00 | cafuego | kreg: Can you do mac matching in the FORWARD table? |
| 23:26.14 | kreg | i think so |
| 23:26.27 | cafuego | kreg: Then why wouldn;'t you be able to drop? |
| 23:26.29 | kreg | trying to drop a user on the inside of the firewall |
| 23:26.57 | CharlesBrown | How can I list all packages that are installed on my debian/sarge machine. |
| 23:27.02 | CharlesBrown | like rpm -qa in fedora |
| 23:27.06 | directhex | dpkg -l |
| 23:27.20 | cafuego | CharlesBrown: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |
| 23:27.35 | kreg | iptables -A FORWARD -m mac --mac-source 00:0E:A6:C9:50:42 -j DROP |
| 23:27.45 | kreg | appears to have no effect |
| 23:28.03 | cafuego | kreg: Any rules in front of that one use -j ACCEPT ? |
| 23:28.06 | dvs | CharlesBrown: dpkg -l | egrep ^ii |
| 23:28.16 | kreg | cafuego, yes |
| 23:28.23 | war- | Any idea why postfix is not logging to mail.*? |
| 23:28.27 | CharlesBrown | Everytime I go to monster.com firefox crashes |
| 23:28.32 | CharlesBrown | And I have _no plugins_ installed |
| 23:28.33 | cafuego | kreg: So it might in fact get ACCEPTed before that match and never get that far? |
| 23:28.44 | CharlesBrown | Could it be the gtk libraries with sarge? |
| 23:28.45 | kreg | cafuego, ah good call |
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| 23:29.53 | war- | nm I got it. |
| 23:30.04 | directhex | CharlesBrown, worksforme. check your ram |
| 23:30.23 | thorie | i can't connect to security.debian.org |
| 23:30.23 | cafuego | !lart PC manufacturers |
| 23:30.32 | CharlesBrown | directhex, I have a gig |
| 23:30.33 | CharlesBrown | That's not it |
| 23:30.48 | directhex | CharlesBrown, and you've verified this gig with memtest86? |
| 23:30.50 | thorie | is there a mirror? |
| 23:30.52 | cafuego | CharlesBrown: it's probably flash (ads) |
| 23:31.44 | xelam | mewalert |
| 23:31.56 | streuner | valdyn, mwilson: thanks - the printer works now. |
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| 23:32.35 | CharlesBrown | directhex, yes |
| 23:32.38 | thorie | how can I check what version of the software would be installed using apt-get? |
| 23:32.43 | CharlesBrown | cafuego, I thought about that |
| 23:32.47 | CharlesBrown | So I deleted the flashplugin |
| 23:32.49 | directhex | thorie, apt-cache policy foo |
| 23:32.52 | CharlesBrown | about:plugins says "no plugins" |
| 23:32.54 | streuner | thorie: dpkg -l foo |
| 23:32.56 | PDani | is here anybody, who's using sound blaster audigy with 2.6 kernel? if there is, please send me a working kernel configuration |
| 23:33.07 | directhex | !wayc PDani |
| 23:33.11 | dpkg | PDani: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
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| 23:33.32 | PDani | directhex: ? |
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| 23:33.37 | streuner | PDani: audigy is a bitch, it uses several chipsets... |
| 23:33.45 | directhex | streuner, two. |
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| 23:33.53 | capi_ | hey |
| 23:33.55 | PDani | streuner: ok, but i have one :) |
| 23:33.58 | directhex | streuner, emu10k, unless you have an oem dell card |
| 23:34.00 | lamp | are the debian servers down? |
| 23:34.20 | drac | lamp: mind reading the /topic? |
| 23:34.22 | dvs | emu10k1 |
| 23:34.48 | directhex | whatever |
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| 23:35.23 | directhex | either way, it's emu10k1 unless you have a dell oem card, in which case it may well be emu10k1x |
| 23:35.31 | directhex | or ca0106 |
| 23:35.47 | thorie | whatever happened to wine? |
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| 23:36.02 | directhex | what do you mean "whatever happened to" |
| 23:36.13 | thorie | i went to #wine and it's empty... does it still exist? |
| 23:36.30 | xelam | the channel or the program? ^.^ |
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| 23:36.37 | thorie | the users ^.^ |
| 23:36.39 | directhex | #winehq |
| 23:36.43 | thorie | oh thx |
| 23:37.23 | lamp | okey |
| 23:37.25 | capi_ | Does anyone know the file that would allow me to change the resolution of the command window. |
| 23:37.54 | dli | is it simple to use wine to run ms/office in windows partition? |
| 23:38.10 | xelam | "command window"? do you mean xterm or gnome-terminal or something? |
| 23:38.14 | dli | capi_ : console? |
| 23:38.18 | xelam | capi_ ^ |
| 23:38.37 | xelam | mmm i wuv this dell keyboard :) |
| 23:38.45 | dli | capi_: the kernel detects it during booting, don't know how to change |
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| 23:39.15 | xelam | dli: #winehq ;> |
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| 23:41.14 | smurfy | hi |
| 23:41.37 | capi_ | on my labtop its setting it to 800x600[should be 1024], I know how to edit X to fit, and there is just a big black frame, annoying. Yes I mean command prompt. |
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| 23:41.57 | smurfy | i have ipmasq on my system and i want to prevent users to steal my conn is there any way to prevent them ? |
| 23:42.21 | CharlesBrown | firefox about:plugins gives me .. "No plug-ins are installed" |
| 23:42.29 | CharlesBrown | But everytime I go to monster.com firefox crashes |
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| 23:42.57 | CharlesBrown | I purged all gtk libraries, and reinstalled them/firefox with debian.org/testing repos..but same thing. |
| 23:42.58 | BenDrake | hey all, I was wondering, is there anythign i should know before installing debian on me mac? |
| 23:43.15 | dvs | BenDrake: What type of mac? |
| 23:43.24 | BenDrake | imac g3/333 |
| 23:43.28 | BenDrake | 196mb ram |
| 23:43.29 | smurfy | hello |
| 23:43.34 | CharlesBrown | epiphany/dillo/lynx/mozilla all show that website fne |
| 23:43.36 | gravity | BenDrake: Read the installation manual |
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| 23:45.26 | xelam | CharlesBrown: fine for me in firefox on debian (sarge) |
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| 23:46.41 | smurfy | i have a cable and i give interent to 10 users i want other ppl to not take internet if they pick any ip on my subnet is there any way ????? |
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| 23:47.17 | gravity | smurfy: You could do some crazy custom stuff using MAC addresses and such I suppose |
| 23:47.25 | gravity | smurfy: You'll want to read up on advanced iptables routing |
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| 23:47.59 | genix_ | how do I remove "specific text" in "/file"? |
| 23:48.11 | Tabitha | Hi. I believe I've found a bug in libmm1. Dpkg says I should try and get someone else to reproduce it. |
| 23:48.20 | smurfy | iread iptables |
| 23:48.21 | tode | where on the filessystem source get put when I do an "apt-get source <pkg>" |
| 23:48.31 | smurfy | and other stuf for that iam here |
| 23:48.39 | smurfy | this channel my last chance |
| 23:48.57 | xelam | tode: /var/cache/apt/ ? |
| 23:49.08 | xelam | maybe |
| 23:49.22 | genix_ | Tabitha: testing is not finding libm11 for me and I dont want to change my sources to stable, is there some way to solve this? |
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| 23:51.22 | genix_ | But no one off you know how to delete specific text in a file with a command (I suppose there is other way to do this rather then using sed)? |
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| 23:54.17 | mwilson | genix_: She *did* say libmml, after all. |
| 23:54.25 | kjp | grr. you know, it's really damn frustrating when F/OSS errors are ambiguous |
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| 23:54.39 | streuner | mwilson: thanks |
| 23:54.48 | mwilson | streuner: For? |
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| 23:54.55 | streuner | mwilson: well, the printer works |
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| 23:55.29 | McLamb | is there anyway to have a network folder between win xp and debian machines? |
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| 23:55.42 | dvs | McLamb: samba |
| 23:55.47 | McLamb | thanks |
| 23:56.00 | dvs | McLamb: np |
| 23:56.08 | BigBlockO | anyone in here know of software which will allow an admin running "server" software to push files out to clients running "client" software |
| 23:56.15 | CharlesBrown | If I installed gnomebaker cvs(it works fine)...how can I uninstall it? |
| 23:56.21 | CharlesBrown | apt-get -y remove gnomebaker, doesn't work. |
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| 23:56.32 | kjp | Anyone care to clear up the .xsession-error that says "permission denied" by anychance ? |
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| 23:56.36 | xelam | BigBlockO: that sounds a bit... ambiguous |
| 23:56.39 | streuner | mwilson: /proc/bus/usb wasn't mounted |
| 23:56.41 | dvs | CharlesBrown: apt-get remove gnomebaker |
| 23:57.00 | dvs | CharlesBrown: Why doesn't that work? |
| 23:57.00 | BigBlockO | it is a little bit |
| 23:57.08 | BigBlockO | but basically what i'm trying to do is this |
| 23:57.14 | CharlesBrown | Package gnomebaker is not installed, so not removed |
| 23:57.14 | CharlesBrown | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded. |
| 23:57.16 | mwilson | streuner: That might be a problem. :) |
| 23:57.17 | BigBlockO | i've got a bunch of files i update on a regular basis |
| 23:57.18 | CharlesBrown | dvs |
| 23:57.21 | BigBlockO | my friends want to get those files |
| 23:57.26 | BigBlockO | and they're on the same network as i am |
| 23:57.30 | streuner | mwilson: :-) |
| 23:57.42 | dvs | CharlesBrown: If it's not installed then it can't be removed. |
| 23:57.43 | BigBlockO | i'd like there to be a way for the files to get automatically transferred to my friend's machines |
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| 23:57.53 | BigBlockO | when i get them on my machine |
| 23:58.10 | CharlesBrown | dvs, It is installed. |
| 23:58.11 | xelam | oh |
| 23:58.16 | xelam | rsync perhaps |
| 23:58.16 | CharlesBrown | I type gnomebaker, and it loads and works fine |
| 23:58.20 | mwilson | kjp: Does anyone get to know details? |
| 23:58.33 | BigBlockO | that's what i've been thinking, but its not exactly packaged nicely |
| 23:58.37 | CharlesBrown | I installed the cvs of it. |
| 23:58.38 | dvs | !find gnomebaker |
| 23:58.41 | dpkg | gnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3-3 (sid), Packaged size: 387 kB, Installed size: 949 kB |
| 23:58.49 | BigBlockO | i was wondering if anyone knew of some nicely package software which would do that |
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| 23:58.59 | dvs | !find gnomebaker sarge |
| 23:59.07 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'gnomebaker' returned no results. |
| 23:59.19 | dvs | CharlesBrown: I use sarge so I can't help you |
| 23:59.22 | kjp | mwilson, well hell if i knew the details i could probably fix the damn thing. the error message in .xsession-errors reads IN FULL: "open: Permission Denied" |
| 23:59.29 | CharlesBrown | dvs, I use sarge also |
| 23:59.39 | dvs | CharlesBrown: As you can see, it's not in sarge |
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| 23:59.47 | CharlesBrown | dvs, Yes it is. |
