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| 00:01.28 | Ketter | ooh.. |
| 00:01.31 | Ketter | poor ixi |
| 00:02.09 | Talnakh_ | Ketter, why is he poor? |
| 00:02.20 | Ketter | Talnakh_: for iso mounted thingy's, the sources.list needs an extra line like deb file:/mnt/iso/debian sarge main or something like that.. |
| 00:02.28 | Ketter | it would have saved him some reading :) |
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| 00:02.59 | Talnakh_ | something that does not kill us makes us stronger. at least he ll learn something |
| 00:03.02 | michal_ | what would I have to change in a makefile to get a static executable rather than one which uses shared libs?? i added -static to the compile options |
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| 00:04.06 | Ketter | Talnakh_: that's true |
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| 00:05.08 | Ketter | michal_: downloaded a source file instead of a .deb ? |
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| 00:05.50 | michal_ | ketter: yes.. i wouldn't be building it otherwise :P and i want to be able to move it between different systems (debian, redhat, whatever) which is why i wanted it to be static |
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| 00:06.12 | Ketter | michal_: err.. --prefix= |
| 00:06.29 | michal_ | it's just 1 binary.. there is no installation |
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| 00:07.30 | furrywolf | -static and -static-libgcc? |
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| 00:09.59 | gass | everything in /etc/apache/conf.d is added to httpd.conf, right? |
| 00:11.04 | Ketter | gass: that's the plan |
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| 00:12.09 | sun_ | is there a way to get the sarge installer to load a specific module? i found out which module has the sata support for my chipset |
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| 00:12.34 | gass | Ketter: how can i see the loaded modules? |
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| 00:12.56 | Ketter | gass: apache2 ? |
| 00:13.03 | cheal | sun_: BTW, did you try to install with a 2.6 kernel instead? |
| 00:13.04 | gass | apache1.3 |
| 00:13.16 | sun_ | cheal yes i told it linux26 |
| 00:13.20 | gass | Ketter: apache2 have avaiable and used |
| 00:13.26 | cheal | sun_: ok so no idea |
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| 00:14.36 | gass | Ketter: apache 1.3 |
| 00:14.38 | Ketter | gass: well, that could in httpd.conf itself, or modules.conf. |
| 00:15.06 | gass | Include /etc/apache/conf.d/ |
| 00:15.10 | gass | is that right? |
| 00:15.14 | gass | in httpd.conf? |
| 00:15.22 | Ketter | gass: that's right |
| 00:15.54 | prodope | anyone know how i can scroll through screens history ? |
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| 00:16.16 | prodope | other than going into copy mode? |
| 00:16.22 | gass | Ketter: i have everything there and still 404 on phpgrouware |
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| 00:16.54 | cheal | gravity: experimental is the best! it's worth it! |
| 00:17.18 | gravity | cheal: I only want certain things |
| 00:17.31 | Ketter | gass: /usr/share/doc/phpgroupware/README.Debian ? |
| 00:17.52 | Ketter | gass: I don't think it has anything to do with modules |
| 00:17.57 | cheal | gravity: I found many documents about APT pinning |
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| 00:18.22 | gravity | cheal: Got a favorite? The manpage is a bit dense. |
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| 00:19.55 | gravity | cheal: Never mind, I just figured out my problem |
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| 00:20.01 | cheal | ok |
| 00:20.14 | gravity | Dumbass copy and paste without the necessary substitution :-) |
| 00:20.36 | cheal | hehehe |
| 00:20.39 | gass | Ketter: it is not ... i included a file in httpd.conf ... from squirrelmail |
| 00:20.44 | gass | and the same happens |
| 00:20.52 | gass | apache is not reading the conf |
| 00:21.12 | Ketter | gass: make the include file specific |
| 00:21.18 | Ketter | gass: and see what happes |
| 00:21.53 | gass | Ketter: i am telling you |
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| 00:22.08 | gass | Include /etc/squirrelmail/apache.conf |
| 00:22.18 | gass | Alias /squirrelmail /usr/share/squirrelmail |
| 00:22.31 | gass | http://nosso-sitio.ath.cx/squirrelmail |
| 00:22.32 | gass | 404 |
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| 00:22.42 | jvw | gass: you reloaded apache, right? |
| 00:22.48 | gass | yes |
| 00:22.51 | gass | over and over |
| 00:23.08 | Ketter | then check the error logs |
| 00:23.11 | gass | cat /etc/squirrelmail/apache.conf |
| 00:23.11 | gass | Alias /squirrelmail /usr/share/squirrelmail |
| 00:23.11 | gass | <Directory /usr/share/squirrelmail> |
| 00:23.11 | gass | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.11 | gass | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.12 | gass | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:23.17 | Ketter | *sigh* |
| 00:23.17 | zoiks | debhelper: Although the bfgoodrich look good if we can teach the bot. |
| 00:23.20 | BadMan | doh |
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| 00:23.29 | suifur | Has anyone had trouble using cups with an lpd connection? I recently switched my desktop over to a debian setup and have had issues getting my computer to talk to my printer which is behind a D-Link DP-300U print server. This computer had worked well previously in both Ubuntu 4.10 and Fedora Core 2, just can't seem to get any luck with Debian |
| 00:23.30 | gass | sorry |
| 00:23.32 | gass | geez ... i forgot the logs |
| 00:23.48 | Ketter | gass: it's a location error, nothing els |
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| 00:24.30 | setnf | hey. my video card is intel extreme 2. i configured on X as vesa... but the windows on xfce4 are very big. what video card could I choice on xf86config ? |
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| 00:25.35 | gass | Ketter: i set the server name, now it gives connection refused |
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| 00:27.13 | Ketter | gass: try and make sure that the apache config is correct to serve a simpel php file |
| 00:27.19 | Ketter | gass: including a correct host |
| 00:27.20 | setnf | hey. my video card is intel extreme 2. i configured on X as vesa... but the windows on xfce4 are very big. what video card could I choice on xf86config ? |
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| 00:27.45 | Ketter | gass: including the correct params for all diffrent additional software you want to run |
| 00:27.56 | Ketter | gass: this is just apache telling you that your running to fast |
| 00:28.09 | Ketter | gass: slow down, and read up on your apache |
| 00:28.23 | lef | when installing packages with apt-get, I keep getting the error: "shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory" |
| 00:28.27 | lef | what is that? |
| 00:28.41 | jvw | lunaphyte: cd / |
| 00:28.51 | cafuego | lef: You're in a directory that was deleted. |
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| 00:29.07 | lef | oh I see |
| 00:29.08 | MasterChief_113 | hi |
| 00:29.18 | lef | thank you cafuego |
| 00:29.21 | phaedral | anyone got a favorite web-scraping howto? |
| 00:29.44 | lakcaj | Hi. I created a custom kernel, and installed it with dpkg. However, I can't figure out how to remove it now that I'm using a different kernel. |
| 00:29.51 | MasterChief_113 | i got a quick question |
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| 00:30.42 | lakcaj | dpkg -l shows "kernel-image-2 10.00.Custom", and I've tried every combination of apt-get remove and dpkg -r that I can think of, but they both keep saying they can't find the package by that name. |
| 00:30.43 | dpkg | ii shows "kernel-image-2 10.00.Custom", and I've tried every combination of apt-get remove and dpkg -r that I can think of, but they both keep saying they can't find the package by that name. 1.9-13 lakcaj's private stamp collection |
| 00:31.22 | MasterChief_113 | i downloaded the cd 1 today at college i made a cd when i type e:\install\boot.bat it says Syantax error, then goes thru all the kernals to pick and says bad command or file blah blah blah after each one then it stops and does nothing any idea? |
| 00:31.25 | BadMan | hey if I want to use "rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' *" to lowercase all the files ina directory, is there a recursive switch/option? |
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| 00:31.34 | BadMan | Nothing is sticking out in man rename |
| 00:31.36 | bug_code | hi everyone |
| 00:31.47 | bug_code | have a nice day and good travel |
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| 00:32.08 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: you boot off the cd, you do not run it from windows... |
| 00:32.23 | MasterChief_113 | i know |
| 00:32.30 | MasterChief_113 | i use my boot disk and try it |
| 00:32.38 | MasterChief_113 | always does the same thing |
| 00:32.46 | MasterChief_113 | plus it wont boot for some reason |
| 00:33.12 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: you do not use your boot disk, you take the cd and slap it into the cd drive then boot off it without any other floppies or such |
| 00:33.29 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: make the cd bootable from your bios |
| 00:33.55 | gass | Ketter: php file .... http://nosso-sitio.ath.cx/proj/1/ |
| 00:33.56 | MasterChief_113 | did all that |
| 00:34.00 | gass | static |
| 00:34.00 | bug_code | Xorg is better than X11? |
| 00:34.00 | MasterChief_113 | still dont work |
| 00:34.21 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: is your computer capable to boot off any cd in the first place? |
| 00:34.21 | gass | Ketter: http://nosso-sitio.ath.cx/squirrelmail |
| 00:34.24 | gravity | bug_code: That makes no sense at all |
| 00:34.28 | MasterChief_113 | yes |
| 00:34.46 | MasterChief_113 | i went into bios and made first boot the cd rom and it still dont work |
| 00:35.05 | gravity | bug_code: X.org implements X11 |
| 00:35.09 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: when you browse the cd in explorer (or whatever you use to browse for files) what do you see on the cd? |
| 00:35.30 | Ketter | gass: now, we know that php module is correct. |
| 00:36.03 | lakcaj | Are four lines of terminal text considered a flood? |
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| 00:36.07 | gass | Ketter: done |
| 00:36.08 | BadMan | lakcaj: yes |
| 00:36.12 | gass | thanks ... |
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| 00:36.30 | lakcaj | Ok, I'll do it in 2 of 2 :) |
| 00:37.24 | bob2 | no |
| 00:37.24 | bug_code | good. but I think that the programmer is work more with Xorg |
| 00:37.28 | bob2 | do it in #flood |
| 00:37.30 | bug_code | maybe |
| 00:37.37 | MasterChief_113 | well to start (i know this is lame but our colleges dont allow us to connect our computer and im on dial up so i did this at college) I downloaded the image, then extracted it with an iso program, then i slowly transfered the files to my laptop with a flash drive, then to my pc at home, then i burned all the files to a new disc.... lame huh |
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| 00:38.25 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: excellent. you need to take the iso and burn it *as an iso* to the cd. the cd you have just made is not bootable in the first place |
| 00:38.28 | lakcaj | Ok, I posted it in #flood. I can't understand why dpkg -l shows the package installed, but with a space in the package name, and I can't get it un-installed. |
| 00:38.39 | gravity | bug_code: I don't think you understand |
| 00:38.46 | bob2 | lakcaj: er? |
| 00:38.58 | bob2 | lakcaj: the space is between the packagename and the version |
| 00:39.04 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: in other words: do not extract the files at all, just burn the iso as an iso |
| 00:39.10 | bug_code | now, the development is more in Xorg... |
| 00:39.19 | bug_code | X11 is a stopped project |
| 00:39.28 | bug_code | stoped |
| 00:39.33 | gravity | bug_code: No |
| 00:39.42 | MasterChief_113 | yeh i know but my flash drive is only 128 so i had to break it down to get it to my computer |
| 00:39.44 | lakcaj | dpkg -l shows a package "kernel-image-2 10.00.Custom" installed, however, "dpkg --remove kernel-image-2.10.00.Custom" gives a package is not installed error. |
| 00:39.44 | gravity | bug_code: You're thinking of XFree86. Not X11 |
| 00:39.44 | dpkg | ii shows a package "kernel-image-2 10.00.Custom" installed, however, "dpkg --remove kernel-image-2.10.00.Custom" gives a package is not installed error. 3.6-4 lakcaj's private gamp collection |
| 00:39.45 | bug_code | i'm wrong |
| 00:39.48 | bug_code | :-( |
| 00:39.57 | gravity | bug_code: X11 is a revision of the X Window System protocol |
| 00:40.04 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: you need to split the file up somehow, maybe zip can do it |
| 00:40.04 | gravity | bug_code: XFree86 is an implementation of X11 |
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| 00:40.15 | gravity | bug_code: And X.org is a fork from XFree86 and also an implementation of X11 |
| 00:40.19 | bug_code | do you know a good link to a X11 installation |
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| 00:40.35 | MasterChief_113 | i did that is all in regular files like .exe and stuff |
| 00:40.38 | foox | hello |
| 00:40.41 | MasterChief_113 | unziped |
| 00:40.44 | gravity | bug_code: Dude. Just install Debian. |
| 00:40.59 | bug_code | because I install only a basic CD |
| 00:41.05 | lakcaj | bob2, do you know what I'm doing wrong with my "dpkg --remove kernel-image-2.10.00.Custom" command? |
| 00:41.06 | bug_code | netinst |
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| 00:41.10 | bob2 | lakcaj: ? |
| 00:41.14 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: that will not work. if you extract the iso and then just burn all the files onto the cd, the cd will nto work. period |
| 00:41.16 | bob2 | lakcaj: you didn't read what I said |
| 00:41.17 | bug_code | I think thta don't have X11 |
| 00:41.23 | bug_code | :-) |
| 00:41.37 | gravity | bug_code: A netinstall can pull down X |
| 00:41.56 | MasterChief_113 | lol i knew that would happen so im gonna have to have the full iso image. I cant do anything with the stuff i have? |
| 00:42.10 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: you need to figure out a way to either burn the cd on the computer you download the stuff on or figure out a way to transfer the whole iso onto a box that can burn it |
| 00:42.17 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: nope |
| 00:42.35 | lakcaj | bob2, I did... I've tried "dpkg --remove kernel-image-2", "dpkg --remove kernel-image-2.10.00.Custom", and every other variation I can think of. |
| 00:42.41 | bob2 | lakcaj: dude |
| 00:42.44 | bob2 | lakcaj: think harder |
| 00:42.55 | bob2 | lakcaj: did you really make a package called kernel-image-2? |
| 00:43.04 | bob2 | lakcaj: no, you didn't, dpkg is truncating the name |
| 00:43.19 | bob2 | lakcaj: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |grep kernel-image |
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| 00:43.30 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: umm.. well.. maybe but to make another cd that is bootable is something that is not eexactly trivial. all the boot files are on the cd already but to make the cd actually bootable... i am not sure how to do that on windows |
| 00:43.44 | k-man | how should one update the imap ssl certificate in debian? |
| 00:43.53 | MasterChief_113 | lol i know |
| 00:44.16 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: back to square one, do not pass start ;) |
| 00:44.34 | lakcaj | bob2, ok, thanks... that did the trick. |
| 00:44.35 | MasterChief_113 | lol man..... |
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| 00:44.43 | Silensius | i'm living in belgiun , here we speak french and nederlands in a f-cking hole city ,how can i have openoffice in french and nederlands on a debian box ? |
| 00:44.50 | cinix | Do microsoft/quicktime/divx codecs come with the Debian Xine package? |
| 00:44.53 | cinix | that's the impression I get |
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| 00:45.52 | MasterChief_113 | it will take approxamitly 30 hours for me to download the iso image... sucks huh |
| 00:45.54 | bob2 | cinix: nope |
| 00:46.01 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: you need to check if some of the file compression utilities you have access to can actually handle splitting the iso into smaller chunks you can fit onto the flashdrive, then just transfer the iso in smaller pieces and rebuild it into something a bigger to burn on the cd |
| 00:46.05 | bob2 | cinix: no one is actually allowed to distribute them |
| 00:46.09 | bob2 | cinix: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 00:46.15 | bob2 | get the w32codecs package |
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| 00:46.34 | lakcaj | cinix, "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main" for mplayer, w32codecs, etc. |
| 00:46.47 | MasterChief_113 | thats what i was think ing but i dont think u can do that... could i possibly make a new iso image with the files i have? |
| 00:46.59 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: otoh, you *could* possibly take the floppy images off the cd, "burn" them onto floppies and just point the resulting installer to the cd when you have booted off the floppies |
| 00:47.04 | cinix | ah ;) |
| 00:47.20 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: use rawrite to make the floppies, should be available on the cd you made |
| 00:47.26 | cinix | been so long, doing some updates on a friends machine. I know they just work on my box. |
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| 00:48.55 | MasterChief_113 | yeh i saw that somewhere on it let me look |
| 00:49.17 | BadMan | any clue on what archiver or viwer I can use to see what files are in the normal "quake" paks? |
| 00:49.32 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: rawrite is aconsole app so if you just click on it it will not work, btw |
| 00:49.52 | MasterChief_113 | ill have to unzip it |
| 00:50.10 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: unzip? unzip what? |
| 00:51.12 | MasterChief_113 | nvm |
| 00:51.32 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: you do not have to unzip anything afaik |
| 00:51.52 | MasterChief_113 | yeh... lol |
| 00:52.04 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: ? |
| 00:52.41 | MasterChief_113 | guess im gonna have to download on dial up... :( |
| 00:53.11 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: what do you mean? download what? rawrite? the whole cd? |
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| 00:53.27 | MasterChief_113 | whole cd |
| 00:53.31 | PitchForkLinux | Hi all. twice now... after an upgrade to a working system GDM runs but xserver fails with (EE)xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such File or directory exists |
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| 00:53.47 | PitchForkLinux | any help here |
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| 00:54.23 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: just locate the floppy images on the cd, use rawrite on them to slap them on floppies and boot off the floppies. once the installer starts asking where the rest of the stuff is, point it to the cd |
| 00:54.36 | ixi | Hi. I need 15 loop devices but there are only 8 in /dev. I created the rest but mount says: No such device or address. Do I need to rebuild kernel and what should change in config if so? |
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| 00:54.38 | shingouz | PitchForkLinux: what mouse you have? |
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| 00:55.01 | setnf | hi. my driver to sound card is ac97 i install it and still not working... have any tool to detect the correct one to work ? |
| 00:55.04 | PitchForkLinux | ps2/logitech |
| 00:55.18 | shingouz | PitchForkLinux: and you went from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 i presume? |
| 00:55.51 | MasterChief_113 | havin a hard time finding them |
| 00:56.09 | PitchForkLinux | no. I was already at 2.6 |
| 00:56.10 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: use find to *img |
| 00:56.29 | shingouz | PitchForkLinux: lsmod and see if you have mousedev and psmouse installed |
| 00:56.33 | MasterChief_113 | k |
| 00:56.40 | setnf | hi. my driver to sound card is ac97 i install it and still not working... have any tool to detect the correct one to work ? |
| 00:56.43 | PitchForkLinux | ok brb |
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| 00:57.15 | shingouz | setnf: lspci? |
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| 00:57.43 | MasterChief_113 | found 3 of them |
| 00:58.01 | MasterChief_113 | TFTPBOOT.img |
| 00:58.02 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: boot (or rescue), root and driver? |
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| 00:58.05 | PitchForkLinux | shingouz.. nope sure don't |
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| 00:58.10 | setnf | shingouz, 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4 |
| 00:58.10 | setnf | -L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) |
| 00:58.13 | setnf | this one.. |
| 00:58.19 | shingouz | PitchForkLinux: modconf them in place and you shoudl have the mouse |
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| 00:58.50 | PitchForkLinux | ok. I guess I don't know what the modconf command is |
| 00:58.52 | setnf | i already installed somes... like ac97_codec 11252 0 [i810_audio ac97_plugin_wm97xx ac97_plugin_ad1980] shingouz |
| 00:58.53 | shingouz | setnf: try some other driver, the intel ones perhaps |
| 00:59.02 | MasterChief_113 | they are all the same but for the different kernals |
| 00:59.11 | ixi | If I want to create FTP source for APT can I just COPY the contents of every ISO into a single dir? |
| 00:59.14 | shingouz | setnf: did you check if the thing is unmuted ;) |
| 00:59.18 | gravity | !kernal |
| 00:59.19 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 00:59.22 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: kern*E*l |
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| 00:59.46 | MasterChief_113 | lol |
| 00:59.58 | MasterChief_113 | my spelling isnt so good |
| 01:00.00 | setnf | shingouz, could you anyone ? |
| 01:00.16 | setnf | *tell |
| 01:00.27 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: uhh... i haven't taken a good look at the cd's in ages. you should be able to find boot/root/driver floppies there somewhere. under floppy images i think they should be |
| 01:00.46 | shingouz | setnf: huh? |
| 01:01.07 | setnf | shingouz, i dont know what drive can i install :-\ |
| 01:01.40 | cinix | err anyone have some experience in installing nvidia graphics drivers? should I use the debian package (althouhg can't see to find it), or use the nvidia installer? |
| 01:01.42 | shingouz | setnf: you didnt by any chance do a wuick google for the soundcard you have? |
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| 01:01.58 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.06 | Hussan | hola a tothom |
| 01:02.19 | ixi | Anybody knows how to create single archive from 15 ISOs? |
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| 01:02.35 | abrotman | tar |
| 01:02.38 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:02.59 | abrotman | what's wrong with !tell cinix about nvidia one liner? |
| 01:03.00 | WolfCub | Lol. |
| 01:03.03 | ixi | abrotman: which will be FTP apt source for my LAN |
| 01:03.06 | WolfCub | Oh well. |
| 01:03.15 | cinix | :-P thanks either way |
| 01:03.17 | abrotman | ixi: oh .. dpkg-scanpackages .. or something like that |
| 01:03.30 | abrotman | Piggy: stop .. he's a wolf! |
| 01:03.37 | aardvark | ex-wolf. |
| 01:03.38 | cinix | oh that's cool, it builds it for you then bothering to compile binaries for the different kernels |
| 01:03.40 | MasterChief_113 | found this thing called BOOT and it says security catalog as file type |
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| 01:04.02 | furrywolf | lol |
| 01:04.14 | abrotman | Piggy: why does nt pattern match my left testicle ? |
| 01:04.21 | ixi | abrotman: looks like that what I need, thanks :) |
| 01:04.25 | abrotman | ixi: np |
| 01:04.27 | Piggy | abrotman: fruitmuffins |
| 01:04.48 | abrotman | Piggy: no .. i'm wondering .. it's a qotd .. and i don't remember the context at all :) |
| 01:04.55 | abrotman | !sing abrotman |
| 01:04.55 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
| 01:05.06 | furrywolf | piggy: no biting! /me is a nice wolf! |
| 01:05.10 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: on the cdrom under install/floppy you should see boot.img, root.img and a few other img files. those are the ones you are looking for |
| 01:05.16 | Piggy | :-| |
| 01:05.22 | abrotman | Piggy: you don't know ? |
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| 01:05.34 | abrotman | Piggy: i wish i could query you :) |
| 01:05.57 | cinix | drury lane? really? |
| 01:06.14 | furrywolf | that's an ugly one-liner... |
| 01:06.18 | furrywolf | (the nvidia install) |
| 01:06.29 | abrotman | cinix: no .. but there is a drury lane in philly .. i guess i oculd live there |
| 01:06.46 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: and it sure looks like you need to use rawrite under tools to do the images. and you were correct about unzipping it in the first place. goes to show i havent checked under the dos tools in ages |
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| 01:07.18 | MasterChief_113 | lol |
| 01:07.32 | cinix | *thinks |
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| 01:07.59 | abrotman | cinix: huh? |
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| 01:08.10 | abrotman | cinix: me? |
| 01:08.16 | MasterChief_113 | well i found them but they are not in img format, i used ISO magic to extract the files, like winzip does but different |
| 01:08.27 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: the next time you say somehting to me, try typing shing<tab> and see if something magical happens ;) |
| 01:08.36 | cinix | only alex brotman in philly :-) |
| 01:08.39 | MasterChief_113 | oh sorry |
| 01:08.44 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: you use rawrite on them |
| 01:09.30 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: well i cant get that to work |
| 01:09.30 | abrotman | cinix: i'm not really in philly .. but close .. yes .. if you used google .. that's my address |
| 01:09.39 | furrywolf | Releasing this will also make "git" the official source control |
| 01:09.40 | furrywolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.48 | furrywolf | well, at least linus made up his mind. :) |
| 01:10.16 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: rawrite? and why is that? you try clicking on it? will nto work, you have to open a command line (terminal, console, dos-window) to use it |
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| 01:10.37 | abrotman | cinix: should i visit you on my next trip north? |
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| 01:11.05 | Roey | hey all |
| 01:11.11 | cinix | :-) please |
| 01:11.11 | maher | furrywolf: is he definitely goes to use git? |
| 01:11.15 | Roey | bob2: hi |
| 01:11.17 | cinix | err wait no |
| 01:11.22 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:11.25 | astronut | there ought to be an easier way to do it then this... xmms-shell -e "remove 1 `xmms-shell -e list | tail -n 1 | awk '{print($1)}' | sed -e 's/[^0-9]//'`" |
| 01:11.27 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: oooo um what do i type then... lol |
| 01:11.29 | cinix | I hate being catalogged |
| 01:11.31 | cafuego | Yeah, a complete git. |
| 01:11.33 | abrotman | cinix: but my mom lives up there :) |
| 01:11.33 | cinix | HATE |
| 01:11.35 | astronut | (clears xmms playload) |
| 01:11.40 | Roey | How is apt-get compared to things like 'yum |
| 01:11.44 | furrywolf | maher: that's off the top of the .12-rc3 changelog... |
| 01:11.45 | Roey | on Fedora? |
| 01:11.46 | astronut | Roey: better |
| 01:11.48 | abrotman | cinix: actually .. farther north yet |
| 01:11.50 | Roey | astronut: well yes |
| 01:11.56 | cinix | really? how far north? |
| 01:11.57 | abrotman | Roey: better :) |
| 01:11.58 | cinix | no in NH? |
| 01:11.59 | Roey | astronut: but why exactly? I'm trying to push Debian over Fedora. |
| 01:11.59 | astronut | yum is based on apt i think...but not quite as good (doesn't cache litsts for one) |
| 01:12.00 | abrotman | cinix: ME |
| 01:12.02 | Roey | abrotman: I can't stand RH |
| 01:12.03 | cafuego | Roey: apt-get is the standard all others are measured by. |
| 01:12.04 | cinix | ah yea, that's north |
| 01:12.06 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:12.07 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: try typing rawrite... or whatever you can see resembling it with "dir" in that directory |
| 01:12.09 | Roey | cafuego: why? |
| 01:12.15 | maher | furrywolf: so he whines about source control for years, uses bk for years, and finally writes his own in a week? |
| 01:12.29 | astronut | there ought to be a way to clear the xmms play list more easily than that.... |
| 01:12.29 | furrywolf | maher: lol |
| 01:12.31 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: k |
| 01:12.35 | Roey | cafuego, abrotman, astronut: what is it specifically? the dependency disambiguation engine? |
| 01:12.36 | bob2 | git is way way way way more primitive than BK |
| 01:12.47 | Roey | furrywolf: heya |
| 01:12.47 | abrotman | maher: a little source code loss never killed anyone :) |
| 01:12.49 | bob2 | like, orders of magnitude |
| 01:12.52 | astronut | Roey: well, IIRC, yum makes you download lists every time |
| 01:12.58 | abrotman | i'm still voting for arch .. oh well |
| 01:13.21 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: awww crap i forgot that my version of xp dosent like ms-dos programs.. :( crap |
| 01:13.30 | maher | bob2: i was making a slightly facetious remark - i don't use or claim to understand anything about source control |
| 01:13.35 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: no wonder it wont work |
| 01:13.46 | furrywolf | if they can write a kernel, I figure they ought to be able to write a source code control system... |
| 01:13.54 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: that is doze for you. rawrite should work tho afaik |
| 01:13.57 | abrotman | furrywolf: who needs features :) |
| 01:14.00 | shingouz | not that i have tried it in years |
| 01:14.02 | furrywolf | does this mean the entire development tool chain is finally free? :) |
| 01:14.04 | Guerin | wtf is git? |
| 01:14.10 | Guerin | i never even heard of it |
| 01:14.16 | peterS | Guerin: linus's own source control system |
| 01:14.16 | Roey | astronut, abrotman: I want to push Debian (sarge) over Fedora for our pentest laptops at work.. I really cannot stand Fedora, but I can't articulate why (maybe because I don't know how to configure it like I know with debian? their /etc's are all different) |
| 01:14.17 | gravity | Guerin: It's extremely new |
| 01:14.27 | peterS | Guerin: which he apparently is writing in response to no longer being able to use bitkeeper for free |
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| 01:14.48 | Guerin | wow, he just up and wrote it?> |
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| 01:14.57 | gravity | Guerin: There's not much there yet |
| 01:15.03 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: uve helped me alot understanding this thank you, i think ill re-download it and copy the iso image to a disk... it will take forever but i wont have to bother people like you! lol thanks for the help |
| 01:15.05 | Guerin | because there aren't enough source control systems out there... |
| 01:15.11 | peterS | Guerin: apparently he was dissatisfied with the scaling performance of anything else out there. how he thought he could outdo them all is beyond me |
| 01:15.20 | Guerin | !literal start a rcs war |
| 01:15.20 | dpkg | start a rcs war is <reply> (CVS|Subversion|Bitkeeper|All RCS|The man with the steno notebook) (is great!|has security like a paper tissue|has an Evil license|is teh suck rcs|pwns) (!|?|.|ffs|. GOT IT?) |
| 01:15.20 | buu | Because he has super powers! |
| 01:15.25 | maher | Guerin: at least he's not writing a blackbox fork |
| 01:15.28 | Roey | astronut: why didn't yum just follow apt-get's model?? |
| 01:15.30 | furrywolf | but he's SuperLinus! he can do anything! |
| 01:15.36 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: umm.. you need to burn the iso onto the cd *as an iso* not as data or it will not work |
| 01:16.09 | WolfCub | Give him some credit, he knows exactly what he wants and he will create it. |
| 01:16.12 | WolfCub | He's a busy guy. |
| 01:16.13 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: yes, i have nero and know how to do it i love that program |
| 01:16.14 | buu | WolfCub: Eventually. |
| 01:16.17 | WolfCub | Give him some time. |
| 01:16.30 | Guerin | bah, I can't really shoehorn "git is good enough for Linus, so it's good enough for you!!1" in there |
| 01:16.31 | cinix | hey nvidia liner works great, although you probably already knew that. Thanks! |
| 01:16.43 | WolfCub | No problem :) |
| 01:16.44 | gravity | I think he's creating a stopgap solution until one of the other projects meets his needs |
| 01:16.47 | bob2 | git isn't what most other projects want |
| 01:16.51 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: excellent. if there is any way for you to do the burn on the box you download the iso on it will be a hell of a lot easier btw |
| 01:16.51 | bob2 | it's very linus-specific |
| 01:16.54 | gravity | Monotone for instance got a speedup because of his needs |
| 01:17.15 | abrotman | why doesn't arch meet his needs? |
| 01:17.17 | gravity | Not sure what the arch folks are up to (hint, hint) :-) |
| 01:17.31 | buu | abrotman: It was slow and stuff. |
| 01:17.33 | Delph | baz++ ? |
| 01:17.39 | bob2 | abrotman: it's a bit slow on kernel trees, and has massive space overhead |
| 01:17.40 | abrotman | gravity: are you arch developer? |
| 01:17.44 | gravity | abrotman: No |
| 01:17.56 | furrywolf | the question is, do you think the bitkeeper people are going to save money by ignoring the foss community, or are going to lose money from the negative pr? |
| 01:17.57 | abrotman | slow doesn't matter really does it ? .. does it do what they need |
| 01:17.57 | bob2 | baz in ~2 months will be awesome |
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| 01:18.04 | abrotman | look .. debian is slow to release :) |
| 01:18.06 | Delph | bob2: aye |
| 01:18.21 | maher | furrywolf: any bk purchaser already got a free asbestos suit |
| 01:18.26 | bob2 | abrotman: > one minute to commit is annoying |
| 01:18.31 | furrywolf | maher: lol |
| 01:18.49 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: LoL i know, my college is not so freindly, the computers dont have cd burners! Plus we cant even hook our computer up to thier connection, the have a T1, its way way way fast |
| 01:18.50 | bob2 | you could certainly use arch against the kernel (and some people do), but it's not what linus wants |
| 01:18.53 | Roey | furrywolf: the BK people can probably just quote Linus and claim that if it made the Linux devs more efficient, it can make YOUR devs more efficient, too. |
| 01:18.55 | Delph | buu: which arch? |
| 01:18.56 | abrotman | gravity: what baz docs? |
| 01:19.00 | gravity | abrotman: Exactly |
| 01:19.02 | Roey | furrywolf: and it'd generate lotsa cash for them |
| 01:19.05 | Delph | tla or baz? or that baz-nu ? |
| 01:19.07 | furrywolf | Roey: heh |
| 01:19.10 | Delph | or whatever it is |
| 01:19.14 | abrotman | bob2: i guess .. i'm not so concerned with speed as correctness |
| 01:19.16 | Roey | furrywolf: I wonder if Linus is a millionaire yet. |
| 01:19.17 | maher | Roey: use bk - have stable trees like the 2.4 series... |
| 01:19.20 | bob2 | there's tla, bazaar and bazaar-ng |
| 01:19.22 | peterS | Delph: bob2 is affiliated with baz. not tla or bazaar-ng |
| 01:19.29 | Guerin | a T1 is not way, way fast |
| 01:19.34 | Roey | bob2: you're several people right? |
| 01:19.38 | Delph | peterS: yes, i was asking which 'arch' was too slow |
| 01:19.42 | bob2 | Roey: yes |
| 01:19.43 | Guerin | hell, even a T3 is a bit wussy nowadays |
| 01:19.44 | furrywolf | "We had linus by the goolies, and look how much it helped him! Buy our software and we can help you too!" :P |
| 01:19.46 | WolfCub | Roey: red hat gave him millions in shares. |
| 01:19.52 | Roey | WolfCub: nice. |
| 01:19.54 | bob2 | Delph: tla is slowest, bazaar is less so, bazaar-ng is pretty damn fast |
| 01:19.59 | peterS | Delph: I suspect tla and baz are about equally slow at the moment. baz development apparently has concentrated on the UI, not the backend |
| 01:20.04 | Delph | ok |
| 01:20.13 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: you cannot connect to the network? is that because there are armed guards around there or that there are no jacks to connect to in the first place :p |
| 01:20.33 | Delph | buu: Which arch was being talked about in that stateent, and shut up the rest of you ^^ |
| 01:20.34 | peterS | but at least tla is probably faster than larch |
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| 01:20.59 | buu | Delph: How many archs are there? |
| 01:20.59 | Roey | bob2: heard it? |
| 01:21.02 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: You wouldnt believe it, they have at least 100 connections in the library and we cant use any... i think they dont want us connected to thier network... we just want the internet |
| 01:21.05 | bob2 | heard what? |
| 01:21.18 | furrywolf | master: why can't you use them? |
| 01:21.19 | peterS | buu: about half a dozen, but fewer are actually maintained |
| 01:21.20 | bob2 | buu: there's larch, arx, tla, bazaar and barch |
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| 01:21.27 | Roey | bob2: OH yes I think I remember now |
| 01:21.35 | Roey | bob2: the context was, |
| 01:21.37 | buu | Well, I have no idea, I'm just mindlessly repeating slashdot comments |
| 01:21.39 | Roey | bob2: that you're always on |
| 01:21.54 | gravity | buu: They're worth reading up on and trying out |
| 01:21.59 | buu | gravity: Why? |
| 01:22.07 | bob2 | arx has two users, afaict, tla and bazaar have about the same (~100's) |
| 01:22.12 | gravity | buu: So you can know the pro's and cons of each system |
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| 01:22.15 | bob2 | larch and barch are unmaintained |
| 01:22.21 | WolfCub | Lol slashdot doesn't know what they're talking about, they think Debian is dyeing. |
| 01:22.25 | buu | gravity: But that takes effort. |
| 01:22.29 | Roey | WolfCub: could be? |
| 01:22.32 | gravity | Depending on the circumstances |
| 01:22.35 | WolfCub | Every Debian thread people are spamming Debian is dyeing. |
| 01:22.37 | buu | WolfCub: I never said it was *correct* |
| 01:22.38 | bob2 | has netcraft confirmed it? |
| 01:22.42 | WolfCub | Ok :) |
| 01:22.43 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: well.. you do not need more than the internet so if you can find a free jack there you should be able to slap your laptop there for a download. of course if the local rentacops come and hit you over your head with a PR24 do not compalin to me ;) |
| 01:22.45 | buu | bob2: Several dozen times at this point. |
| 01:22.45 | Roey | WolfCub: slashdot is such a mob mentality :) |
| 01:22.52 | bob2 | hah |
| 01:22.52 | Delph | WolfCub: *stops pouring th pink dye into the repository* |
| 01:23.02 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: of course there is always wlan too... |
| 01:23.03 | WolfCub | Lol can't spell. |
| 01:23.37 | furrywolf | knoppix is so horribly disgusting, I'm not sure how anyone can think debian has problems. :) |
| 01:23.47 | foox | rcs flame wars! weee! |
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| 01:23.58 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: hahahahah i already tried and i coulnt connect u need some password or something... lol |
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| 01:24.05 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:24.06 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:24.18 | furrywolf | master: do they have computers in the library? |
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| 01:24.56 | thomas_adam | Hmm... |
| 01:24.58 | MasterChief_113 | furry: yeh but they are horrible, slow and plain ol cdrom |
| 01:25.02 | furrywolf | pull the ethernet cable out the back of one of them and plug it into your laptop. |
| 01:25.05 | thomas_adam | [freenode] [Student(~coolgirl_@203.221.251.99)] http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free |
| 01:25.06 | thomas_adam | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.08 | Roey | WolfCub: maybe /.'s posters feels this way about Debian because it does not comply with the LSB. |
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| 01:25.23 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: eugh. that sucks then. of course there are ways but they are not legal. just tell them to stuff it? :p |
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| 01:25.36 | peterS | Roey: you think slashdot posters have any idea what the LSB is, then? |
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| 01:25.41 | Guerin | !britsmite thomas_adam |
| 01:25.45 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: hahahaha |
| 01:25.50 | WolfCub | Roey: they think its due to a lack of an up to date stable release. Use testing ffs heh. |
| 01:25.51 | thomas_adam | Now that's not fair, I say. |
| 01:26.12 | Guerin | peterS: s/ what the LSB is, then?// |
| 01:26.20 | thomas_adam | dpkg still owes me for all the fish-n-chips he's stolen over the years. |
| 01:26.29 | foox | Roey: how could we? LSB is rpm centric.. deb's and apt are the best part of debian |
| 01:26.33 | Guerin | thomas_adam: at least it wasn't your fish and chips |
| 01:26.37 | furrywolf | masterchief: unless you also need a password to use the internet from the computers they give, just use the ethernet cable from the back of one of them... if they filter by mac address, just check what it is before you swap cables... |
| 01:26.38 | thomas_adam | Ha. |
| 01:26.41 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: hey thanks for the help, after days of downloading ill stop by again if i need help this is a great place for it :) |
| 01:26.43 | peterS | Guerin: well, yeah. to be honest I haven't checked slashdot at all in the last couple of months so I have no idea what debian-related stories have floated there |
| 01:26.44 | thomas_adam | How are you, Justin? |
| 01:26.54 | Guerin | actually, the LSB only says that rpms CAN BE USED to install software. They CAN. |
| 01:27.04 | Delph | furrywolf: and if they've got kit in the hubs to detect network cables being unplugged |
| 01:27.05 | foox | Guerin: or not |
| 01:27.07 | gravity | peterS: Mainly stuff about the DPL election and one about the new woody rev |
| 01:27.10 | shingouz | MasterChief_113: check what furrywolf just said ;) |
| 01:27.14 | WolfCub | LSB doesn't do anything great anyways, it just provides binary compatibility between LSB distros, why not just compile from source or install a Debian package? |
| 01:27.16 | Guerin | peterS: debian has released!!!111 (woody r5) |
| 01:27.24 | peterS | gravity: right, guess that adds up |
| 01:27.27 | Guerin | foox: sure they can. It's possible. |
| 01:27.36 | furrywolf | delph: then they'd go nuts every time the windoze boxes crashed and got rebooted. |
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| 01:27.42 | MasterChief_113 | shingouz: yeh i saw that, ill try it thanks furry |
| 01:27.44 | foox | Guerin: usually i see ppl complaining about rpms sucking hard |
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| 01:27.51 | peterS | Guerin: with the usual ignoramuses asking if woody r5 has GNOME 2.10 and KDE 3.7234 and kernel 2.6.12-rc8 yet? |
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| 01:27.55 | mithro | howdy |
| 01:28.06 | Guerin | foox: they do. but it is POSSIBLE, and that's all the LSB requires. |
| 01:28.08 | foox | Guerin: doing everything BUT installing |
| 01:28.10 | thomas_adam | peterS: You mean it doesn't? :) |
| 01:28.13 | mithro | is there a way to run glibc2.2 programs on sid? |
| 01:28.15 | peterS | thomas_adam: OMG! |
| 01:28.16 | Guerin | peterS: oh yeah... |
| 01:28.17 | PitchForkLinux | shingouz... thanks that worked. quick question... I also lost sound as well. do you think that the upgrade that i did wiped all my modules from my original install? |
| 01:28.22 | poser | when I try printing something, the program trying to print freezes and cups is non-responsive.. what should I do to fix this.. I am trying to print to fedora with sharing enabled |
| 01:28.23 | foox | Guerin: yup |
| 01:28.24 | abrotman | WolfCub: file locations |
| 01:28.29 | furrywolf | the lsb mentions rpm? that's both sad and disgusting. |
| 01:28.38 | thomas_adam | peterS: ITYM: OMG!!1111! |
| 01:28.42 | peterS | furrywolf: of course it mentions rpms. I would be surprised if it didn't |
| 01:28.46 | MasterChief_113 | well thanks again im off good night. :) |
| 01:28.46 | WolfCub | File locations could use to be standardized... |
| 01:28.59 | shingouz | PitchForkLinux: you probably just have to reconfigure the soudn modules. i hope you remember what modules you used |
| 01:29.03 | peterS | furrywolf: the point of the LSB is to specify a standard for third parties to use when writing and distributing software. you really think such a thing should *ignore* package management? |
| 01:29.12 | WolfCub | That's why I hate red hat distros, everything is in different places than Debian. |
| 01:29.12 | furrywolf | am I the only one who's always hated rpms? |
| 01:29.13 | furrywolf | heh |
| 01:29.15 | PitchForkLinux | yep i do.. |
| 01:29.17 | maher | poser: look in the cups log |
| 01:29.20 | foox | Guerin: but they could have chosen something better.. hell, slack's tarballs even would have been a better choice |
| 01:29.20 | abrotman | furrywolf: no |
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| 01:29.37 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.43 | PitchForkLinux | I do remember |
| 01:29.44 | peterS | furrywolf: RPM is the only reasonable thing to standardize on. all the alternative package managers have far too little market share among linux users |
| 01:29.50 | bykte | rpm ruleZ |
| 01:29.53 | Guerin | foox: but red hat is teh standartd!! |
| 01:29.57 | setnf | shingouz, i'm back... so. could you help me to configure this ac97 driver ? |
| 01:29.58 | shingouz | PitchForkLinux: the modules should be on the new kernel too, you just have to tell the system which ones to use and you should be set |
| 01:30.12 | foox | Guerin: no it's not! |
| 01:30.20 | furrywolf | peters: why don't we say the win32 API is the only reasonable thing to standardize on, since it has by far the most market share? |
| 01:30.23 | bykte | red hat is teh elite |
| 01:30.31 | shingouz | setnf: has it ever worked on your system so far? |
| 01:30.31 | furrywolf | the market share = better rule doesn't work. :) |
| 01:30.34 | peterS | furrywolf: because most linux distributions have poor support for it |
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| 01:30.49 | peterS | furrywolf: LSB stands for "Linux Standard Base" |
| 01:30.50 | poser | maner: it sends the print job it says.. but let me check the server's logs |
| 01:31.00 | foox | Guerin: in the us maybe, but there are alot more users beyond americans ;) |
| 01:31.05 | setnf | shingouz, no, i just buy this laptop... i install all drivers... this sound driver i haven't idea to install |
| 01:31.18 | maher | lsb is an antedeluvian idea from the time when people thought distributing binary only sw was a good idea |
| 01:31.22 | furrywolf | but standardizing on rpm... gah! ugly! horrible! |
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| 01:31.25 | WolfCub | .Debian is going the way of rpm, ubuntu is now becoming incompatible with sarge, and other distros will do this too, then it'll be rpm hell all over again. |
| 01:31.25 | peterS | furrywolf: what specific shortcomings do you see in the RPM format? |
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| 01:31.51 | Guerin | foox: red hat still did have more users than any other distro, last I checked... then there's mandy and suse |
| 01:31.56 | kevin06 | Would anyone in here PLEASE help me return my monitor to 1280x1024 resolution... |
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| 01:32.02 | Guerin | !drxx |
| 01:32.02 | dpkg | i heard drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
| 01:32.06 | shingouz | setnf: iirc the AD97 does not run on its own, it needs some other part too. check what possible intel sound drivers you have there and try them |
| 01:32.19 | Guerin | !tell setnf about sc97 |
| 01:32.22 | Guerin | !tell setnf about ac97 |
| 01:32.31 | setnf | thanks shingouz |
| 01:33.01 | furrywolf | peters: poor maintenance (no one keeps track of what other developers are doing, constantly broken dependencies, etc), inability to automagically fetch dependencies without various non-compatible distro-specific schemes that rarely work for more than a few percent of rpms, difficulty/impossibility removing them cleanly, lack of alternatives/conflict resolution,... |
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| 01:33.24 | peterS | furrywolf: I said the RPM format. I didn't say typical RPM packages |
| 01:33.36 | setnf | Guerin, uhm.. thanks... maybe i must update the kernel :( but im sure it works on 2.4.27 |
| 01:33.40 | peterS | furrywolf: which of what you said are specific to the RPM format? |
| 01:33.42 | green_earz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.02 | poser | maher: cups automically finds the printer, so that means sharing is enabled, but never prints for some reason.. nothing in the log files |
| 01:34.16 | Guerin | setnf: you don't have to change anything in your kernel; you just need to load a module |
| 01:34.34 | setnf | Guerin, gotfault:/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-386/kernel/drivers/sound# modprobe i810_audio |
| 01:34.34 | setnf | Segmentation fault |
| 01:34.43 | CasaNova | I'm running WMaker (installed following linuks,mine.nu tutorial) |
| 01:34.45 | setnf | it fail. |
| 01:34.54 | CasaNova | I can't resize windwos in WMaker? |
| 01:35.01 | foox | Guerin: it's hard for me to believe there are more rh users out there then there are debian users.. |
| 01:35.01 | Guerin | setnf: you have bigger problems than sound not working |
| 01:35.07 | CasaNova | when I try to Wmaker appears to reset... |
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| 01:35.19 | setnf | k |
| 01:35.20 | Guerin | foox: why? |
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| 01:35.39 | furrywolf | peters: I haven't looked at the rpm format in a number of years... when I looked at it, it was missing about 90% of what debs had... but I've heard it's improved since then, so I'm not going to talk about the format, which I know nothing modern about. :) |
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| 01:35.52 | kevin06 | I used Linspire for a week as a Linux newb, and then saw Debian as the choice of my true OS... |
| 01:35.58 | matsuo | Hey |
| 01:36.04 | peterS | furrywolf: if you know nothing about the RPM format, you have no basis for saying the LSB should not standardize on it |
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| 01:36.34 | foox | maybe 'cause most ppl i know that use linux uses debian and also 'cause i never saw a real study about that |
| 01:36.37 | matsuo | I have a question if someone has a moment |
| 01:36.38 | peterS | furrywolf: issues of people releasing crap-quality packages are not specific to the format - if the LSB did not mandate a format at all, they'd do the same quality work |
| 01:36.43 | foox | Guerin: --^ |
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| 01:36.48 | maher | furrywolf: rpms and debs are largely equivalent - that is not why debian is better |
| 01:37.04 | furrywolf | maher: debian is better for the first list I gave. :P |
| 01:37.08 | Guerin | it's all about policy |
| 01:37.10 | peterS | furrywolf: and things like dependency/conflict resolution are done by tools, not the file format - rpm has dependencies and conflicts, so if your tool isn't as good as apt-get, that's not the LSB's problem |
| 01:37.11 | buu | Debian is better because I'm in #debian. |
| 01:37.28 | tictac_ | anyone having any problems with the latest libdvdread3 package causing dpkg parse errors? |
| 01:37.31 | CasaNova | Wmaker appears to be working just fine but any attemp to resize windows fails.... |
| 01:37.35 | CasaNova | using testing |
| 01:37.37 | CasaNova | wmaker |
| 01:37.37 | we_R_DNA | www.agnula.org got hacked :( |
| 01:37.39 | CasaNova | gtkstep |
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| 01:38.29 | matsuo | Does someone have a moment? |
| 01:38.43 | maher | matsuo: first or second moment? |
| 01:38.43 | shingouz | !tell matsuo about ask |
| 01:38.54 | freanoad | how many of the 15 sarge cd's do i really need. i want a pretty average setup and then just apt-get any additional things as i need em |
| 01:39.10 | Delph | freanoad: you want the netinst cd. |
| 01:39.10 | Guerin | !d-i freanoad |
| 01:39.11 | dpkg | freanoad, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:39.32 | furrywolf | frea: does the box not have internet? downloading just what you need using netinst is usually much nicer... |
| 01:39.48 | freanoad | i already have the first 2 cds via bt |
| 01:39.58 | freanoad | ive never used the net installer |
| 01:40.06 | matsuo | First, :P I have a wifi USB adapter that.. somehow, I got to work. However, it seemed to stop working after a moment and I rebooted to get it working again, any ideas on either why it stopped or how to restart it without rebooting? |
| 01:40.07 | Guerin | freanoad: just boot the first one |
| 01:40.30 | bob2 | matsuo: try unloading and reloading the module |
| 01:40.38 | bob2 | my usb wireless thing was kinda flakey in that regard |
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| 01:40.54 | matsuo | How can I unload the module? it's ndiswrapper |
| 01:41.18 | shingouz | matsuo: modprobe -r modulename |
| 01:41.20 | bob2 | haha, ew |
| 01:41.22 | zignig | matsuo: rmmod <modname> |
| 01:41.27 | bob2 | not sure if it's possible then |
| 01:41.28 | zignig | bob2: bleh! |
| 01:41.32 | bob2 | rmmod ndiswrapper, perhaps |
| 01:41.34 | bob2 | zignig: aloha |
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| 01:41.48 | matsuo | and modprobe ndiswrapper is the way to add it back in I suppose, is there a way to load it on boot? |
| 01:41.55 | bob2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:42.09 | shingouz | matsuo: modprobe -r modulename, notice the -r there |
| 01:42.25 | matsuo | Right, -r removes it, and modprobe alone installs it? |
| 01:42.39 | shingouz | matsuo: also modconf is very useful to add and remove boottime modules |
| 01:42.41 | setnf | Guerin, maybe must I download ALSA modules ? |
| 01:42.49 | thetrooper | hiya! which filesystem should I use in order to be able to safely mount NTFS partitions? I am running Linux 2.6.8 |
| 01:42.49 | shingouz | matsuo: man modprobe tells you more :) |
| 01:43.06 | shingouz | !ntfs thetrooper |
| 01:43.09 | matsuo | Alright, thanks. Any idea on why the card stopped working in the first place? |
| 01:43.33 | shingouz | pass on that one matsuo |
| 01:43.52 | thetrooper | !ntfs |
| 01:43.53 | dpkg | ntfs is probably Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/ has patches against 2.4.20 of the backport of the 2.5.X ntfs [ntfs-tng] allowing overwrite without changing filesize. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to acces the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or captive, ... |
| 01:43.54 | shingouz | thetrooper: /msg dpkg ntfs |
| 01:44.02 | shingouz | or that too... :) |
| 01:44.14 | bob2 | modconf is crap and broken |
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| 01:44.20 | mentor | shiner840_Away: !tell foo about bar? |
| 01:44.20 | thetrooper | thanks shingouz ;) |
| 01:44.23 | bob2 | matsuo: ndiswrapper is a terrible hack |
| 01:44.23 | shingouz | bob2: it is? |
| 01:44.29 | bob2 | it's not surprising it breaks randomly |
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| 01:44.39 | shingouz | mentor: yea. true |
| 01:44.50 | maher | bob2: its amazing it works at all |
| 01:44.53 | shingouz | mentor: just kick the tab |
| 01:45.00 | |XO| | are there any restriction on a MPL license....in terms of copying or forking? |
| 01:45.09 | matsuo | Well.. another question, how can I convince KDE to open web links in Firefox rather than Konqueror? |
| 01:45.15 | mentor | shingouz: The tab completion was just the straw that broke the camels back. |
| 01:45.41 | shingouz | mentor: when are you going to buy another one to replace the one you kicked to death :p |
| 01:45.59 | mentor | shingouz: Right after I buy some other shiny toys |
| 01:46.05 | shingouz | :) |
| 01:46.23 | mentor | set completion_amount 0 |
| 01:46.27 | mentor | feck feck feck |
| 01:46.37 | shingouz | mentor: you sure your nick should not be magpie? ;) |
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| 01:46.52 | mentor | feck: unknown command |
| 01:47.27 | peterS | this reminds me of singing a Mozart piece in Latin that used the word "Fac" by itself a lot |
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| 01:47.42 | tictac_ | im having an issue with dpkg. it says parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' ... value for `status' field not allowed in this context |
| 01:47.56 | mentor | tictac_: uh oh... |
| 01:48.02 | tictac_ | however, all status fields around there are install ok installed |
| 01:48.17 | maher | tictac_: try status.old |
| 01:48.23 | peterS | tictac_: available is easily regenerated. move it out of the way and do a 'dselect update' |
| 01:48.33 | maher | how come so many people have corrupt status files? |
| 01:48.43 | maher | tictac_: ignore me |
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| 01:48.54 | bob2 | tictac_: delete the file |
| 01:48.57 | bob2 | tictac_: then touch it |
| 01:48.57 | matsuo | Is there a better driver for a Netgear WG111 than ndiswrapper? |
| 01:48.58 | maher | tictac_: apt-cache clean ; apt-cache update |
| 01:49.07 | bob2 | tictac_: or run 'sudo apt-get dselect-update |
| 01:49.10 | bob2 | maher: that won't help |
| 01:49.33 | cafuego | Faco quoque |
| 01:49.54 | tictac_ | maher: you mean apt-get clean |
| 01:49.56 | cafuego | Fac vos quoque? |
| 01:50.09 | dan2 | !french |
| 01:50.10 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 01:50.18 | cafuego | !latin |
| 01:50.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, latin is an old dead but beautiful language |
| 01:50.19 | dan2 | hmm |
| 01:50.19 | maher | bob2: i thought clean nixed the files... well maybe it doesn't... |
| 01:50.21 | peterS | dan2: he's speaking latin, not french |
| 01:50.24 | dan2 | hmm |
| 01:50.27 | dan2 | looks the same to me |
| 01:50.27 | bykte | !latin |
| 01:50.28 | dpkg | [latin] an old dead but beautiful language |
| 01:50.28 | bob2 | maher: it doesn't touch dpkg's stuff |
| 01:50.29 | cafuego | peterS: I'm trying, not speaking. |
| 01:50.33 | cafuego | typing even |
| 01:50.41 | bob2 | so, someone at LCA is running a rogue AP with the correct essid |
| 01:50.46 | bob2 | then redirecting all connections to them |
| 01:50.52 | mentor | Isn't French a latin derivative? |
| 01:50.53 | cafuego | bob2: Blame nemo |
| 01:50.53 | bob2 | and apparently trying to collect ssh passwords |
| 01:50.53 | maher | bob2 indeed so |
| 01:50.56 | gravity | bob2: Hunt them down and kill them |
| 01:51.00 | nemo | I'm blamed |
| 01:51.02 | peterS | mentor: yes, as is English to some extent |
| 01:51.04 | cafuego | mentor: Yes, partially. |
| 01:51.10 | bob2 | from the unwary users who don't notice the "HOST KEY HAS CHANGED OMG" |
| 01:51.13 | gravity | I mean that. Death. |
| 01:51.20 | bob2 | gravity: still trying to hunt them down |
| 01:51.34 | gravity | Super evil |
| 01:51.44 | maher | bob2: can you collect passwords from ssh? |
| 01:51.49 | cafuego | bob2: Playing with kismet yet? :-) |
| 01:52.00 | cafuego | maher: if you run a patched ssh that logs them, sure. |
| 01:52.03 | tictac_ | another issue im having, fluxbox seems to have 'lost' the debian menu. |
| 01:52.04 | peterS | maher: if you've ever visited the remote host before, then no. ssh will notice that the host key has changed, as bob2 said |
| 01:52.36 | thetrooper | shingouz: no .debs for captive fs? |
| 01:52.48 | tictac_ | ive tried pointing fluxbox to /usr/lib/menu but to no luck |
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| 01:53.00 | maher | cafuego: ok - i should read the protocol - i guess i didn't think ssh just sent the password to the server |
| 01:53.01 | shingouz | matsuo: try here: http://prism54.org/ |
| 01:53.07 | jim | bob2: is there a way to direction-find on just those packets that are coming from the rogue? |
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| 01:53.13 | peterS | maher: it can. it has multiple ways to authenticate the user |
| 01:53.22 | bob2 | jim: not unless somsone has a direction antenna |
| 01:53.23 | shingouz | thetrooper: how the hell would i know, i do not have any doze here and haven't had in anges |
| 01:53.27 | shingouz | ages aven |
| 01:53.29 | bob2 | tho, given how geeky this group is, that would not surprise me |
| 01:53.32 | matsuo | Shingouz, I did.. It didn't seem to work right, though I could be doing something wrong.. Not sure |
| 01:53.32 | jim | they're easy to make4 |
| 01:53.38 | poser | is it possible to back up my system on a few cds.. as to be able to copy it to a new partition and it be the same...? |
| 01:53.40 | peterS | bob2: well, you can triangulate on signal strength from different places |
| 01:53.51 | peterS | bob2: that'd be tedious and inaccurate but it might give you some clue |
| 01:53.52 | shingouz | matsuo: madwifi perhaps then? |
| 01:53.55 | thetrooper | shingouz: ooooooooooooooh ok dude, thanks ;) |
| 01:54.01 | shingouz | :) |
| 01:54.11 | matsuo | Shigouz: Madwifi? What's that? |
| 01:54.13 | bob2 | peterS: hm, yeah |
| 01:54.20 | jim | poser: yes |
| 01:54.23 | bob2 | peterS: also obvious to whoever is doing it |
| 01:54.32 | shingouz | matsuo: wlan-ng may also have something. google them, man ;) |
| 01:54.42 | mentor | You could use a phased array and using the phase angle of each of the elements determine the direction...... |
| 01:54.48 | peterS | bob2: wandering around with a laptop, occasionally stopping and typing a command ... not sure if that'd be obvious or not |
| 01:54.51 | bykte | google!! they dont work! |
| 01:54.53 | deadcat | wlan-ng sucks |
| 01:55.22 | shingouz | mentor: what on earth are you trying to do? phased arrays and all? contact the martians? |
| 01:55.28 | shadowarts | apt-get moo |
| 01:55.28 | poser | jim: any help as what I should use to do it? |
| 01:55.31 | shadowarts | thats awesome! |
| 01:55.33 | maher | peterS but even for passwords isn't it meant to use diffie-helman |
| 01:55.43 | travisat | !moo |
| 01:55.43 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
| 01:55.49 | jim | poser: why not just do it directly? |
| 01:55.49 | cafuego | bob2: Surely someone can organise a card, pigtail and galaxy antenna. |
| 01:55.58 | bykte | !cat |
| 01:55.58 | dpkg | well, cat is a *nix command, see also more, less, or even better : the heavenly sweet 'dog'. |
| 01:56.02 | peterS | maher: hmmm, dunno. I was thinking passwords were sent in the clear, *after* a DH exchange to get a secure channel |
| 01:56.05 | matsuo | Someone want to explain to me a bit more detailed about this wlan-ng thing? I believe it's installed but not sure how to make it work.. |
| 01:56.15 | bob2 | nemo: galaxy antenna? |
| 01:56.18 | poser | jim: good question. let me try |
| 01:56.23 | cafuego | bob2: And after you locate the perpetrator, you hook the antenna up to a microwave and fry the fuicker. |
| 01:56.32 | shadowarts | is that an inside joke? |
| 01:56.39 | jim | poser: you're trying to duplicate from what thing to what thing? |
| 01:56.46 | maher | peterS: oh - so you mean you just send the plain text and the sshd sends it to pam... |
| 01:57.05 | peterS | maher: that's the only mode of operation pam has. so if you use pam, it'd have to do that |
| 01:57.16 | nemo | bob2: hmm... not these days, sorry |
| 01:57.18 | poser | jim: well.. a small partition to a larger partition |
| 01:57.19 | bob2 | matsuo: read the README that came with it |
| 01:57.24 | peterS | maher: pam doesn't have a challenge-reponse thing, just a "check this user and this password, tell me if it's valid" type of API |
| 01:57.38 | cafuego | maher: This if you patch sshd (or pam) you can easily make it log the user/password combinations. |
| 01:57.40 | matsuo | I have no clue where it's installed, I'm useing a Kanotix distro |
| 01:57.52 | cafuego | matsuo: You're on the wrong channel then. |
| 01:57.52 | gravity | ugh |
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| 01:58.19 | maher | cafuego: peterS: ok - so you probably send the hash to pam which is good enough |
| 01:58.21 | peterS | cafuego: no patch to pam needed, just write a trivial pam module and add it to /etc/pam.conf (: |
| 01:58.21 | matsuo | Kanotix is based off Debian in many respects and all I've learned in debian has carried through to Kanotix |
| 01:58.24 | poser | jim: I know I can just copy it but just wanted to know if it was possible to split dvd easily |
| 01:58.26 | jim | cafuego: be MUCH better to get them convicted of a felony if you can... you ruin their life FOREVER if they don't already have felony convictions, and on top of that they get all the physical abuse in the jail that you'd want for them |
| 01:58.30 | poser | or cds.. |
| 01:58.43 | gravity | bob2: Are you helping run LCA at all? |
| 01:58.51 | cafuego | jim: How is that better then outright killing them? |
| 01:58.54 | jim | poser: man tar |
| 01:58.55 | peterS | maher: not good enough for some pam modules. pam_unix could be made to support that, but most others couldn't |
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| 01:58.59 | bob2 | gravity: nah, just enjoying hanging out |
| 01:59.03 | tictac_ | bob2: thanks for the help |
| 01:59.06 | shingouz | what was the almost oxygen factoid again... ;) |
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| 01:59.10 | jim | cafuego: they die over a much longer period of time |
| 01:59.12 | gravity | bob2: It sounds like a ton of fun. LinuxWorld was such crap |
| 01:59.14 | cafuego | matsuo: Kanotix is not debian. Go to #kanotix for help with it. |
| 01:59.22 | Skrot | hi.. is there a program to show which programs is currently writing to disc? |
| 01:59.30 | bob2 | tictac_: np |
| 01:59.31 | abrotman | lsof fuser |
| 01:59.35 | cafuego | jim: Yes, on MY taxes. |
| 01:59.43 | matsuo | Did already, I find the people here much more helpful.. for starters most of those here speak english. |
| 01:59.47 | jim | yer gonna pay em anyway :P |
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| 02:00.06 | gravity | matsuo: We really do not enjoy the idea of supporting Debian derivatives in here |
| 02:00.11 | shingouz | matsuo: just remove the kanotix and install debian |
| 02:00.13 | peterS | maher: for example a pam_winbind for NT domains needs to have an NTLM hash, not a Unix crypt hash. unless you want to build the flexibility of having the client send either type of hash, on demand, you have to work with plaintext |
| 02:00.20 | gravity | matsuo: We have no idea of knowing how they were altered, which makes life difficult for us. |
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| 02:00.29 | cafuego | matsuo: Yes. They also all run debian, not kanotix. |
| 02:00.37 | bob2 | matsuo: regardless, reading the README is your first step |
| 02:00.41 | jim | and if you do the killing, you get convicted of a felony, and possibly die in jail, at your and someone else's tax expense |
| 02:00.42 | bob2 | matsuo: it explains how to do everything |
| 02:01.04 | matsuo | bob2: If someone could explain to me where the README file is, I'd lookinto it.. |
| 02:01.22 | shingouz | matsuo: locate README perhaps? |
| 02:01.35 | cafuego | matsuo: We don't know where it is, on account of us not using kanotix. |
| 02:01.42 | cafuego | matsuo: is the idea getting through yet? |
| 02:02.25 | fflush_CA | 5.* stable is going to be out soon ? |
| 02:02.38 | cafuego | fflush_CA: Wrong channel. |
| 02:02.39 | abrotman | oh .. i use kanotix |
| 02:02.42 | fflush_CA | wrong channel |
| 02:02.43 | maher | fflush_CA: real soon now - this year o rnext |
| 02:02.44 | abrotman | ha! .. fooled you |
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| 02:02.55 | abrotman | sorry |
| 02:02.59 | jim | fflush_CA: |
| 02:03.01 | matsuo | Cafuego: As far as I've seen to this point, Kanotix is a copy of stright Debian:Sid with a few different startup scripts created for the live CD. |
| 02:03.03 | jim | !rsn |
| 02:03.03 | dpkg | rsn is, like, Real Soon Now (or never) or see "wir" and "siyh" |
| 02:03.04 | bob2 | matsuo: depends how you installed linux-wlan-ng |
| 02:03.12 | BadMan | how do I know what /dev/... my sound card is? |
| 02:03.16 | jim | !wir |
| 02:03.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 02:03.17 | Skrot | Anyone? I need to see which programs is accessing the harddrive |
| 02:03.19 | BadMan | dsp seems to not be it |
| 02:03.23 | maher | fflush_CA: do you mean 3.0r5? out already |
| 02:03.24 | bob2 | gravity: yeah, it's very geek oriented...the hallway was full of people all evening just hacking on the couches |
| 02:03.26 | abrotman | Skrot: i told you .. lsof or fuser |
| 02:03.31 | bob2 | gravity: until beer was suggested ;) |
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| 02:03.37 | Skrot | abrotman: sorry, didn't know you where talking to me :) |
| 02:03.47 | gravity | bob2: Stop making me jealous, damn it! :-p |
| 02:03.51 | bob2 | hehe |
| 02:04.10 | peterS | bob2: what CPU are those couches running? |
| 02:04.25 | jim | fflush_CA: doesn't matter what you're actually talking about, it's going to be released wir, maybe rsn, definitely siyh. |
| 02:04.48 | peterS | gravity:vc::dan2:language |
| 02:05.05 | gravity | peterS: Sadly, I have to agree right now |
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| 02:05.35 | gravity | peterS: I'm placing my money on the baz/bzr combo and I'll see where it leads |
| 02:05.46 | peterS | jim: not definitely. some open source teams are very insular and offered help is not accepted |
| 02:05.58 | jim | then you FORK |
| 02:06.12 | abrotman | spork |
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| 02:06.33 | peterS | gravity: bzr is certainly where I'll be looking when it has matured a bit. it is built of many promises but it's easy to *promise* that something will be better than the status quo, a bit harder to *deliver* |
| 02:06.35 | matsuo | Is there a script for Debian that tries to auto-configure X windows, and also is there a kernel module which deals with the power saving specifics that Toshiba laptops use, as I've heard they use something other than the standard |
| 02:06.35 | maher | spooky |
| 02:06.57 | gravity | peterS: I agree. I'm just testing it on something *very* small right now |
| 02:07.14 | abrotman | matsuo: wrong channel |
| 02:07.15 | peterS | goerzen, predictably, has thrown in with darcs |
| 02:07.17 | bob2 | matsuo: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 02:07.24 | shingouz | matsuo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and toshutils |
| 02:07.24 | peterS | it *does* use his pet language (: |
| 02:07.26 | jim | you say "here is the changes to their 1.2.3; apply it and it actually does what it's supposed to, as opposed to 1.2.3 without my/our patch |
| 02:07.27 | gravity | I've given up on darcs before I've even tried it |
| 02:07.29 | jim | " |
| 02:07.41 | Steven_Yang | hello all, ask a question, how can I turn a music CD to a iso file? thanks |
| 02:07.47 | peterS | Steven_Yang: you don't |
| 02:08.03 | peterS | Steven_Yang: iso is short for iso-9660 which is a CDROM filesystem format which has nothing to do with music CDs |
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| 02:08.11 | maher | Steven_Yang: what do you actually want to do? |
| 02:08.30 | jim | Steven_Yang: rip all the tracks, convert them to mp3s or oggs or something, run mkisofs on them, done |
| 02:08.50 | Steven_Yang | petemc, maher I want to backup a CD. |
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| 02:09.01 | peterS | Steven_Yang: iso 9660 is for data CDs - audio CDs use a completely different format. how you want to store that format will determine what you should do |
| 02:09.02 | maher | Steven_Yang: use k3b's copy cd function |
| 02:09.10 | jim | Steven_Yang: you're not going to get an iso directly |
| 02:09.16 | Wyzard | Steven_Yang: cdrdao read-cd |
| 02:09.19 | astronut | http://irc.evtek.fi/urllog/urllog/2005/04/15/vim.gif |
| 02:09.34 | travisat | couldn't you just dd it? |
| 02:09.36 | jim | the best thing you can get is to not convert the .wavs |
| 02:09.59 | jim | and compress each with some lossless compression |
| 02:10.06 | abrotman | xenosaga!!! |
| 02:10.08 | bob2 | if you want to back it up, rip it with cdparanoia -zB, then use cdrdao to burn it again |
| 02:10.15 | bob2 | or convert to flac and make a data cd |
| 02:10.39 | Wyzard | abrotman: lol, so now it's Xenosaga rather than Xenogears? :-) |
| 02:10.40 | jim | there's lots of different approaches |
| 02:10.48 | Wyzard | abrotman: FWIW, I'm listening to the soundtrack right now |
| 02:10.52 | cafuego | is there a decent piece of voice recognition software in Linux yet? |
| 02:11.15 | jim | BBSometime :) |
| 02:11.27 | abrotman | Wyzard: geek |
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| 02:12.09 | ifup | Hello, can someone tell me how I get a non-root user full access to usb? I am running sid Thanks! |
| 02:12.25 | cafuego | ifup: sudo |
| 02:12.26 | hexmode | hmm |
| 02:12.54 | Steven_Yang | peterS, maher , jim , Wyzard thanks a lot ：） I will try k3d cdrdao read-cd |
| 02:12.55 | hexmode | add "user" to fstab options after "ro" |
| 02:13.05 | hikenboot | anyone know how to get non functional function keys working + extra keys..is there a package for a gui way of doing this? |
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| 02:14.14 | hexmode | hikenboot: gnome-keybinding-properties does it |
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| 02:15.06 | caiqian | I found that libgnomevfs2-0 belonged to x11 section, while libgnomevfs2-common is to devel. are those wrong? |
| 02:15.12 | ifup | cafuego: do you have and example of that? I thought sodoers what only for a command? |
| 02:16.46 | shingouz | ifup: you mean you want to give access to the usb port in general or just a particular device that has been connected to it? |
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| 02:18.31 | ifup | shingouz: I was using my sony w1 camera a few days ago and originally I only had to add the user to the camera group now only root can access it. |
| 02:19.17 | maher | ifup: strace the commands you use- see what you can't access - fix the perms |
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| 02:19.32 | ifup | shingouz: but I dont care the whole usb bus can have access.. its my wifes pc |
| 02:19.38 | shingouz | ifup: if that camera is visible as a disk drive, make it ro (or rw) in the fstab and it shoudl work |
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| 02:20.35 | ifup | shingouz: I wish it would but it not the case here |
| 02:20.39 | shingouz | ifup: check that the user is still in the camera group too, something odd may have happened |
| 02:21.01 | dama | help, i can't import mozilla bookmarks fr root to non-root. |
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| 02:21.24 | thetrooper | dama: chown? |
| 02:22.20 | dama | i do it through gui. |
| 02:22.29 | ysothoth | hahahah |
| 02:22.51 | ifup | shingouz: I did that too I removed hotplug readded it. I deleted the group too and it rebuilt it when apt-getted I did re add the user |
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| 02:23.08 | dama | windwo with "import preferences, bookmarks... from", i click 'Next', no response. |
| 02:23.40 | shingouz | ifup: i am not sure what to do. you may have to chmod the usb in this case even if it is not the way it should be done in the real world |
| 02:24.32 | dama | import is basically making a copy, why need to 'chown'? |
| 02:25.03 | shingouz | dama: permissions you know..... |
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| 02:25.06 | deadcat | the d-i rc3 works fine right? |
| 02:25.24 | thetrooper | dama: I think it might be trying to read the source file and it not able to do that since it's "owned" by root and not readable by other users |
| 02:25.29 | gravity | deadcat: Yes |
| 02:25.47 | ifup | okay well thanks anyway I will keep digging |
| 02:25.52 | dama | there is no msg to this effect. |
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| 02:26.03 | deadcat | gravity: cool |
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| 02:26.09 | thetrooper | dama: or do a chmod on it (as root), and enable read access to all users |
| 02:26.10 | dama | anyway, i'll check on permit. |
| 02:26.19 | thetrooper | dama: k |
| 02:26.31 | clemente | Anyone had installed a marvell 88e8036 network adapter? |
| 02:26.52 | thetrooper | clemente: not a marvel, just a DC comics one... hahahaha (sorry I couldn't resist) |
| 02:27.03 | clemente | hahaha |
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| 02:28.08 | clemente | That network adapter comes with the notebook toshiba tecra a4 |
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| 02:29.35 | space_cow_boy | I am installing a 2.4 kernel, on a woody box. what is that line I need to add in lilo.conf about a map file? |
| 02:30.18 | deadcat | space_cow_boy: what map file? like an image? |
| 02:30.31 | caiqian | hi all, is that libxxx-common should belong to "libs" section? |
| 02:30.35 | space_cow_boy | deadcat yes, that is it. something about initrd? |
| 02:30.44 | Wyzard | deadcat: The map that tells LILO which sectors the kernel file occupies |
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| 02:30.54 | deadcat | Wyzard: ah. then i dont know heheh |
| 02:31.26 | deadcat | halt |
| 02:31.27 | space_cow_boy | I remember something about mkinitrd -o initrd.img, to creat the file. but I can't remember how to reference it in lilo.conf |
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| 02:31.40 | Wyzard | space_cow_boy: Oh... the initrd is something different |
| 02:31.48 | deadcat | space_cow_boy: let me see if i have a lilo.conf file on my system or not |
| 02:31.55 | space_cow_boy | thanks |
| 02:32.03 | Wyzard | space_cow_boy: I think you just want to add a line that says "initrd /path/to/initrd/file" |
| 02:32.17 | Wyzard | space_cow_boy: analogous to the "kernel" line |
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| 02:32.38 | deadcat | space_cow_boy: sorry. no lilo.conf on my system. |
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| 02:33.11 | space_cow_boy | Wyzard so I will add initrd=initrd.img right aftter the line, image=/vmlinuz.new |
| 02:33.38 | Wyzard | space_cow_boy: Sounds right to me, but check the manpage to be sure -- I haven't used LILO in over a year |
| 02:33.48 | abrotman | !moo |
| 02:33.48 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
| 02:33.54 | space_cow_boy | lol, ok I will see what the man page says |
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| 02:34.33 | doublehp | how do I disable console blanking ? |
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| 02:34.53 | deadcat | doublehp: setterm |
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| 02:36.23 | doublehp | deadcat: thx |
| 02:37.52 | space_cow_boy | Wyzard well I did it, now to shutdown -r, and see what happens |
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| 02:39.44 | toresbe | :O |
| 02:39.51 | toresbe | there's recursion in that poem! |
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| 02:40.18 | toresbe | if the cow weighs twice as much as me because it is a cow |
| 02:40.30 | thetrooper | ae povo, alguem aki rodando o X.Org?? |
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| 02:40.35 | toresbe | and I am also a cow, I must weigh twice as much as the cow that weighs twice as much as me!? |
| 02:40.48 | thetrooper | oops sorry, wrong window :P |
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| 02:41.00 | maher | toresbe: you both wiegh zero |
| 02:41.12 | toresbe | maher: aaaah |
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| 02:41.32 | toresbe | maher: you just avoided the creation of a singularity on earth |
| 02:41.36 | toresbe | !win maher |
| 02:41.37 | dpkg | Congratulations, maher! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
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| 02:45.58 | TheMoebius | why is debian still using xfree86 by default? |
| 02:46.15 | gravity | TheMoebius: So that X packaging wouldn't disrupt the sarge release |
| 02:46.15 | TheMoebius | with sarge |
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| 02:46.32 | gravity | TheMoebius: Also that sarge was supposed to be out a long time ago, so the move to X.org wasn't seen as being worth it at that point |
| 02:47.05 | TheMoebius | lol gravity, I know you |
| 02:47.23 | TheMoebius | small world |
| 02:47.27 | gravity | TheMoebius: Indeed :-) |
| 02:47.40 | gravity | TheMoebius: If you need X.org packages, you can get them. |
| 02:48.09 | TheMoebius | gravity, yeah and its still using 2.4 kernel |
| 02:48.15 | gravity | TheMoebius: Did you finally give up on whatever distro was giving you hate with its gnome? |
| 02:48.22 | TheMoebius | and it didn't detect my USB mouse, wtf |
| 02:48.25 | gravity | TheMoebius: Yeah, 2.6 is available though. 2.4 is just the default |
| 02:48.42 | gravity | We can get that working |
| 02:49.05 | TheMoebius | well I'm still having many problems with my gentoo install on my desktop, but this is reformatting my laptop |
| 02:49.07 | lef | all I can say is Debian rocks |
| 02:49.27 | ricochet | are there more windows-like configuration scripts/wizards like window's control panel? I get this question a lot, and dont know the answer. |
| 02:49.31 | ricochet | (in deb) |
| 02:49.53 | gravity | ricochet: Try gnome-system-tools |
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| 02:50.06 | gravity | ricochet: You may also want configure-debian, although it's not really built to do as much |
| 02:50.17 | gravity | ricochet: There's also webmin, but it's hateful |
| 02:50.24 | TheMoebius | ricochet, I haven't been able to find any good ones. Because everyone in linux uses different systems so there's no good one for controlling everything |
| 02:50.51 | TheMoebius | even the gnome control panel manages mostly gnome stuff, doesn't it? |
| 02:50.56 | ricochet | it seems like there would be a bigger push to write some kind of configuration framework |
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| 02:51.20 | TheMoebius | I'd agree |
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| 02:52.02 | TheMoebius | ricochet, heh you'd think there would be a bigger push to make everything more user friendly in general, but developers don't think in user friendly terms, I've learned |
| 02:52.11 | gravity | Yeah, but the gnome-system-tools manage all that other stuff. Time/timezone/services/etc |
| 02:52.21 | gravity | ricochet: It's harder than it sounds |
| 02:52.34 | gravity | ricochet: There's a lot of configuration systems, the most well known being gconf |
| 02:52.40 | gravity | ricochet: But how do you get everyone using it? |
| 02:52.47 | ricochet | building an operating system as large as debian is harder than it sounds |
| 02:53.03 | gravity | That was a pretty naieve comment |
| 02:53.15 | gravity | And I can't spell :-p |
| 02:53.17 | maher | gravity: depends on how hard you think it sounds |
| 02:53.32 | gravity | Tell you guys what. How about you go and get the KDE guys to use gconf. |
| 02:53.36 | gravity | And get everyone else to do so too |
| 02:53.43 | gravity | Including apache. And vim. And emacs. |
| 02:53.59 | gravity | And every other program that's in Debian. |
| 02:54.04 | gravity | Let me know how it goes. |
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| 02:54.39 | ricochet | gravity, there could be interfaces between apps-to-config and the framework. I'm not saying to get the developers to write their configs in a certain way |
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| 02:55.04 | astronut | you would have an abstraction that tells the format of the conf file |
| 02:55.05 | gravity | ricochet: I don't understand |
| 02:55.06 | htet | does anyone play america's army on debian box? |
| 02:55.11 | astronut | but you know what? most conf files aren't that bad |
| 02:55.16 | gravity | (this all sounds suspiciously like gconf) |
| 02:55.18 | astronut | some are |
| 02:55.30 | astronut | (postfix, sendmail, etc.) |
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| 02:56.42 | htet | casue i m having a cracking sound from the game, not a very bad one but a bit annoysome |
| 02:57.06 | nullbit | i have setup a remote server running Sarge and would like to access applications like emacs through X |
| 02:57.13 | ricochet | IME, configs are mostly just on, off, or a string. not talking about sendmail. but apache could have a decent config editor, especially if there was an accompanying DTD or schema |
| 02:57.15 | nullbit | forwarding X doesn't seem to work |
| 02:57.24 | astronut | nullbit: there's an option in the ssh conf you have to enable |
| 02:57.30 | astronut | then use ssh -X when you ssh |
| 02:57.31 | astronut | or -x |
| 02:57.34 | astronut | forget which |
| 02:57.41 | nullbit | it's set but it still doesn't work |
| 02:57.49 | nullbit | it works fine with other remote servers |
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| 02:57.57 | gravity | ricochet: Sure, there's no good reason why they *couldn't* have some standardized config. Like you say, most of them are very similar |
| 02:58.12 | astronut | astronut@astronut:~$ cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep X11Forwarding |
| 02:58.12 | astronut | X11Forwarding yes |
| 02:58.13 | gravity | ricochet: The problem remains of getting everyone to use the standardized format |
| 02:58.23 | astronut | nullbit: did you check the sshd config? |
| 02:58.24 | ricochet | ok, i'll go write one. |
| 02:58.36 | astronut | note, the server side, not client |
| 02:58.37 | gravity | ricochet: Check out gconf before you do. The work's already been done |
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| 02:58.42 | nullbit | yes |
| 02:58.50 | gravity | ricochet: Note that there's a zillion other projects out there that do the same thing, but aren't as widely used |
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| 02:59.09 | YaleR | q: why is update-rc.d saying there is no file in init.d - isn't it supposed to generate a script therE? |
| 02:59.17 | cheal | htet: I play it when it doesn't crash |
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| 02:59.27 | space_cow_boy | how can I page up in a consol screen to see what has scrolled off? |
| 02:59.36 | ricochet | gravity, is there some kinda config's DTD/Schema conversion for gconf? Maybe all we need is a push to create the definitions for a buncha packages |
| 02:59.37 | gravity | space_cow_boy: pageup key |
| 02:59.38 | dondelelcaro | shingouz: shift-pageup |
| 02:59.49 | gravity | ricochet: Check it out. It's all xml backend. |
| 02:59.58 | htet | cheal: i need help how to use ALSA instead of OSS |
| 03:00.02 | ricochet | oh ok. cool. |
| 03:00.13 | gravity | The problem remains political |
| 03:00.15 | cinix | !tell cinix java |
| 03:00.27 | cheal | htet: did you install it? |
| 03:00.42 | nullbit | how do i restart an X server remotely? Or atleast make sure its on. |
| 03:00.49 | astronut | there ought to be an easier way to do clear the XMMS playlist than this... xmms-shell -e "remove 1 `xmms-shell -e list | tail -n 1 | awk '{print($1)}' | sed -e 's/[^0-9]//'`" |
| 03:00.51 | cinix | damn couldn't be that easy heh |
| 03:00.53 | astronut | anyone? |
| 03:00.54 | ricochet | gravity, yeah, until all it takes is a third party to be able to write config definitions to interface with a gconf program |
| 03:00.57 | htet | cheal: u mean < did i install AAO on linux box ? then yes |
| 03:01.07 | cheal | htet: no, ALSA |
| 03:01.24 | gravity | ricochet: Hey, if you can do it, go for it. It's something I'd definitely love to see you pull off. It'd help things out a lot. |
| 03:01.40 | gravity | ricochet: A decent unified config setup would be wonderful |
| 03:01.47 | space_cow_boy | how can I increase the number of lines that are visiable when I shift-pageup? |
| 03:01.55 | TheMoebius | how can I install openoffice.org 2.0 beta instead of 1.1.4 using apt? |
| 03:02.02 | htet | cheal: i m noobie for linux box, i try to use package manager to install ALSA |
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| 03:02.42 | htet | i can't find the option to change from OSS to ALSA in Gnome which is my default Desktop |
| 03:02.44 | cheal | TheMoebius: by creating the packages first. are you sure you want to do that? |
| 03:02.48 | ricochet | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.54 | htet | i also have KDE |
| 03:03.01 | TheMoebius | cheal: yikes. |
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| 03:03.19 | FlimFlamMan | can apt-get work through squid? |
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| 03:04.20 | cheal | htet: what's your kernel? |
| 03:04.31 | htet | 2.6.10 |
| 03:05.15 | cheal | hum, you should have alsa just by installing alsa-base and alsa-utils and running alsaconf |
| 03:05.18 | htet | cheal: i just try to changed to ALSA in KDE control center, but it fail |
| 03:05.38 | cheal | yeah I'm not sure how to force armyops to use ALSA |
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| 03:05.52 | htet | ok, |
| 03:06.00 | cheal | make sure you did that then retry in kcontrol |
| 03:06.26 | streuner | TasteOfD1ath: nice nick :-) |
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| 03:06.55 | space_cow_boy | my 2.4 kernel freezes right after it prints the line, usb.c new usb bus registered. When I boot my 2.2 kernel, it scrolls through so fast I can't find that line. dmesg doesn't have the line :( shift-pageup, doesn't go up far enough to find the usb.c line. How can I find that output for my 2.2 kernel? Does someone know how to increase the number of lines bash saves for scrolling up? |
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| 03:07.22 | htet | my box does not have the ALSA yet, that's the problem even though i have chosen it when i compile the kernel < i have followed instrustion from on line site to build my own kernel> |
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| 03:08.18 | cheal | htet: yeah...BTW why do you compile your own kernel? |
| 03:08.31 | htet | i wanna learn |
| 03:08.42 | TheMoebius | how much work is involved if I want to change from xfree86 to xorg? |
| 03:08.42 | htet | trying to get my hand dirty |
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| 03:08.45 | cheal | hehe. so did you install alsa? |
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| 03:09.08 | htet | i have chosen that option but i don't have it yet |
| 03:09.11 | streuner | htet: /msg dpkg kp |
| 03:09.20 | YaleR | I need a script for /etc/init.d where would I get/make one? |
| 03:09.34 | streuner | htet: read newbiedoc.sf.net KERNEL-HOWTO section |
| 03:09.35 | cheal | htet: what do you mean, "that option"? |
| 03:09.59 | cheal | YaleR: you make one with a text editor |
| 03:10.11 | YaleR | cheal: and if I'm not a programmer...? |
| 03:10.21 | htet | i have included ALSA option when i do makemenuconfig<?> |
| 03:10.22 | cheal | YaleR: then you get one? |
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| 03:10.38 | cheal | htet: yeah but did you install the debian packages for ALSA? |
| 03:10.45 | danikata | hi all |
| 03:11.02 | YaleR | cheal: yeah... thanks... |
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| 03:11.46 | space_cow_boy | htet, make menuconfig; # choose what you want, then make dep; make bzImage; make modules; make modules_install; then cp the bzImage file from ./arch/i386/bzImage to /bool/choosesomename then cd /; ln -s /boot/choosesomename vmlinuz.something, then you edit lilo.conf, and run lilo |
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| 03:12.22 | cheal | YaleR: and you don't need to be a "programmer" to write an init script. init scripts are just shell scripts |
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| 03:12.38 | space_cow_boy | htet I can email you the directions if you want. making the choices for things like laptops can be tricky |
| 03:12.47 | htet | thx space_cow_boy |
| 03:12.56 | htet | it is not for laptop |
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| 03:13.06 | htet | it is for desktop |
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| 03:14.39 | htet | i'll try what u just said space_cow_boy |
| 03:14.49 | space_cow_boy | htet ok, good luck |
| 03:14.55 | space_cow_boy | htet what kernel are you compiling? |
| 03:15.23 | htet | 2.6.10 |
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| 03:15.44 | space_cow_boy | htet for 2.4 and beyond you need init.rd=/initrd.img, after image=/vmlinuz.choosesomename line |
| 03:16.17 | space_cow_boy | htet ok, so you must have a 2.4 kernel running on your machine now? |
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| 03:16.35 | space_cow_boy | htet uname -r; will tell you |
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| 03:16.54 | htet | i am running 2.6.10 now already |
| 03:17.01 | space_cow_boy | htet ok |
| 03:17.23 | htet | so i will try it again to include alsa |
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| 03:18.40 | Ryushin | Anyone have an idea how to prevent "apt-get upgrade" from automatically upgrading a packages sytems files? For example, I've changed some of the html code in squirrelmail, but after I perform the upgrade, it overwrites my changes without leaving a backup. I've been googling for this and I haven't been able to find an answer. |
| 03:19.15 | stew | Ryushin: /msg dpkg hold |
| 03:19.31 | danikata | i have installed java runtime, it looks success , but i cant see my java runtime working to open the web page that content java virtual machine ? |
| 03:21.29 | Ryushin | Sorry, I must not have fully made clear my problem. I want to upgrade the package, but I want it to ask about upgrading the system files that I've changed like it does with config file. |
| 03:23.59 | stew | Ryushin: backup and restore then. otherwise you'd need to download the source for the package and edit the control files to mark these files as config files, rebuild the package and then install yours or somehting |
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| 03:24.26 | stew | Ryushin: if these are files that you think would normally be edited than file a wishlist bug against the package and make your case |
| 03:24.31 | space_cow_boy | htet another little catch is that when you run make menuconfig, under networking you need to include support for the nic you are using. If you are using modules (cat /etc/modules) then you should put a M, by that nic, otherwise put a *, to build in support into the kernel |
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| 03:26.50 | Ryushin | stew: Bummer. Then this is the only thing I've found that RPM is actually better at then apt. |
| 03:26.56 | Kerr | ?u |
| 03:27.04 | hikenboot | sorry for the repetition...my irc buffer filled in the time i was away.....anyone know how to get non functional function keys working + extra keys..is there a package for a gui way of doing this? |
| 03:27.07 | Ryushin | Perhaps I should file a bug against apt-get. |
| 03:27.16 | gravity | (patch and submit!) |
| 03:27.27 | Wyzard | Ryushin: dpkg, not apt-get. |
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| 03:27.41 | stew | Ryushin: no file a bug against the package if these are files that are normally edited, this is true of other packages |
| 03:27.41 | Wyzard | Ryushin: apt-get is just a frontend which downloads .deb files and runs dpkg to install them |
| 03:27.51 | Wyzard | Ryushin: dpkg is the actual package manager, analogous to RPM |
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| 03:28.29 | stew | Ryushin: if these are not files that would normally be edited then you should be making custom packages |
| 03:28.38 | stew | Ryushin: (which isn't all that hard) |
| 03:28.43 | Ryushin | Wyzard: Yea, I did know that. It's late for me. |
| 03:28.47 | stew | Ryushin: what package? what files? |
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| 03:30.16 | Ryushin | stew: It just seems to me, that dpkg should only upgrade files that haven't been changed and to ask a question on those who's md5sums are different. I don't feel that it's the packages fault that I want to change some code or modify it's shell executable. |
| 03:30.26 | chaps0063 | where do I edit the source list for apt-get? |
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| 03:31.22 | stew | chaps0063: editor /etc/apt/sources.list ; or run apt-setup |
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| 03:31.51 | stew | Ryushin: then you should possibly be overriding such files in /usr/local/ instead of /usr/ |
| 03:31.58 | Wyzard | Ryushin: That's not a bad idea, and you could indeed file a wishlist bug against dpkg for adding that sort of feature... but that doesn't necesarily mean someone will come forward to implement it |
| 03:32.00 | Ryushin | stew: For example, in squirrelmail I've changed the graphic and the login text to better explain that the user needs to type in for their user id for our mail system. Another example, is the fax received script in hylafax that I want it to print the fax on it being received. |
| 03:32.11 | chaps0063 | stew: thanks. |
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| 03:33.15 | Ryushin | I'll file a wishlist bug against dpkg. |
| 03:33.38 | YaleR | so I found an init.d script for the program I want to start up, but when I do update-rc.d it says the links are already present |
| 03:33.49 | Ryushin | Thanks all, I appreciate it. I was hoping there was just a "expert" mode switch that I could turn on to have it ask about system file changes. |
| 03:34.00 | stew | Ryushin: you would get better results by trying to figure out how this is a config issue for these particular packages |
| 03:34.17 | stew | Ryushin: making changes like that to dpkg would require a policy change |
| 03:34.20 | dondelelcaro | Ryushin: if this is something that a legitimate user would change it should be turned into a config file istead. |
| 03:34.24 | Ryushin | I guess another good reason to have it would be to check the integrity of the files in case of a compromise. RPM allows that. |
| 03:34.43 | Wyzard | Ryushin: That's already possible... apt-cache show debsums |
| 03:34.44 | dondelelcaro | Ryushin: there are already packages that can check the veracity of files in the case of a compromise. |
| 03:34.49 | stew | Ryushin: debsums will let you check for compromises |
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| 03:35.14 | dondelelcaro | Ryushin: file a bug against the package requesting that whatever file you're modifying be turned into a config file instead. |
| 03:35.18 | Wyzard | Ryushin: Your wishlist feature is checking md5sums during *upgrade* and prompting the user about whether to overwrite the file if there's a mismatch |
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| 03:36.14 | Ryushin | Wyzard: Yes, that's exactly it. |
| 03:36.52 | dondelelcaro | Ryushin: I personally don't think that's particularly reasonable, because anything that should be changed by the end user should already be a configuration file... |
| 03:36.52 | Ryushin | Didn't know about the debsums. I was always hoping it was there but I've never had to use it. All my servers are checked each night through RFC. |
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| 03:38.39 | Wyzard | dondelelcaro: It could be useful to developers... I've occasionally (temporarily) replaced binaries with shell scripts that perform logging and then call the real binary, for example |
| 03:38.49 | Ryushin | dondelelcaro: Really? What about the example I gave about changing the login graphic with squirrelmail and the HTML text in it's perl file. If that was the case, it would make every non binary program a changeable file. |
| 03:38.53 | dondelelcaro | Wyzard: yeah, but then you place the package on hold. |
| 03:38.54 | Wyzard | dondelelcaro: But you wouldn't make a binary a conffile |
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| 03:39.08 | dondelelcaro | Wyzard: or, in my case, I make a new package and install it. |
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| 03:39.35 | Wyzard | dondelelcaro: It's overkill to build a new package just to log what arguments CUPS is passing to its filters |
| 03:39.42 | dondelelcaro | Ryushin: for squirrelmail, almost all of the text that it's displaying should actually be a configure script. |
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| 03:40.13 | dondelelcaro | Wyzard: *shug*. then put the package on hold while you're debugging it. |
| 03:40.13 | Guerin | part of it is htlp though |
| 03:40.13 | Guerin | eh |
| 03:40.13 | Guerin | html |
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| 03:40.47 | Wyzard | dondelelcaro: I know... but my point is that there are use cases where it makes sense to do that sort of thing, and probably some of them are long-term |
| 03:41.01 | Ryushin | Well, I still think it would be a very useful feature. People could use it or not use it. But having it available would make my life much easier and make the people who package the deb packages easier as well. |
| 03:41.08 | dondelelcaro | Wyzard: well, any long-term usage case usually means that you want to make your own package. |
| 03:41.35 | dondelelcaro | Ryushin: it actually won't affect the people who make deb packages at all... since the actual installation is purely a function of dpkg |
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| 03:42.11 | Ryushin | dondelelcaro: Excactly. They don't have to change anything and I get the functionality that I need. |
| 03:42.25 | Ryushin | Off to file the wish bug. |
| 03:42.28 | Ryushin | Take care all. |
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| 03:43.18 | dondelelcaro | I could see the argument for an optional "check to see if these packages have been modified" flag, but definetly not doing it by default... |
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| 03:43.57 | Guerin | yeah |
| 03:44.02 | Guerin | it's a pretty rare case though |
| 03:44.18 | Guerin | it's already annoying enough to have to ok all my changed config files... |
| 03:44.54 | Wyzard | dondelelcaro: But anytime it does happen, it's either because of file corruption, or because you made an intentional change |
| 03:44.55 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: yeah... not to mention the fact that most packages don't actually use ucf, which makes dealing with those issues so much easier. |
| 03:45.08 | dondelelcaro | Wyzard: not necessarily. |
| 03:45.19 | Wyzard | dondelelcaro: Ideally, neither should ever happen, so you'd never have to interact with the feature... but if it did, it makes sense to prompt by default |
| 03:45.35 | dondelelcaro | Wyzard: FE, there are lots of files that get modified in the package installation stage, or when the package gets built. |
| 03:45.51 | dondelelcaro | Wyzard: pretty much everything in /var FE, is totally useless to look at as far as md5sums go. |
| 03:46.16 | Wyzard | dondelelcaro: True... but I guess that's more an issue of what md5sums you record in the first place |
| 03:46.25 | Wyzard | dondelelcaro: i.e. don't even bother summing stuff in /var |
| 03:46.30 | dondelelcaro | Wyzard: uh, you record everything... |
| 03:47.19 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* not like I really care though. Write the patch to make it optional, then we can discuss it further. |
| 03:47.20 | Wyzard | dondelelcaro: Why bother? As you said, it's pointless -- the files are just going to get changed again in the course of normal operation |
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| 03:48.48 | whogben | http://legion.gibbering.net/misterx/troutwar.php?s=whogben |
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| 03:49.24 | NeoBREED | how would one play .pls extension... online broadcasting with shoutcast files |
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| 03:49.29 | NeoBREED | ? |
| 03:49.41 | Wyzard | NeoBREED: Open it in a player that supports shoutcast, such as xmms |
| 03:49.44 | axelxx | hello. do i have to make any config to let my alow my app to listen to ports |
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| 03:49.51 | NeoBREED | xmms doesn't make a sound |
| 03:50.02 | Wyzard | axelxx: No, but you should be aware that only root can bind to ports below 1024 |
| 03:50.16 | Wyzard | NeoBREED: Then you have a problem with xmms... it definitely supports shoutcast |
| 03:50.27 | Wyzard | NeoBREED: (Either that, or the stream is broken) |
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| 03:50.48 | NeoBREED | Wyzard, I can play CD with xmms... but nothing else... like .mp3 files |
| 03:50.57 | NeoBREED | Wyzard, how would I check it? |
| 03:51.24 | axelxx | Wyzard: and the ports higher can be used with no problems? |
| 03:51.24 | Wyzard | NeoBREED: Then you just don't have sound working... CD playback uses a separate connection, from the CD-ROM drive directly to the sound card, which is why that works |
| 03:51.29 | Wyzard | axelxx: correct |
| 03:51.36 | NeoBREED | I did an "apt-get install xmms" so perhaps I'm missing some stuff |
| 03:51.48 | axelxx | thanx |
| 03:51.56 | Wyzard | axelxx: If they're blocked by a firewall, you won't be able to connect to them, of course, but that won't prevent the program from listening |
| 03:52.00 | YaleR | does anyone here use vsftpd in standalone? |
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| 03:52.28 | NeoBREED | okay... then I have a problem |
| 03:52.34 | Wyzard | NeoBREED: When you play an MP3 file, does the xmms progress bar move and the oscilloscope do its thing? |
| 03:52.34 | mohohaha | NeoBREED: what problem |
| 03:52.59 | axelxx | Wyzard: and will they show in netstat? |
| 03:53.05 | Wyzard | axelxx: yes |
| 03:53.05 | jair_11 | Hello guys how are you doing? |
| 03:53.05 | dpkg | jair_11: you know how it is... |
| 03:53.11 | mohohaha | dpkg: hi |
| 03:53.11 | dpkg | niihau |
| 03:53.12 | jair_11 | hahaha |
| 03:53.34 | mohohaha | how good is debian |
| 03:53.43 | jair_11 | guys I am trying to run a tar file with the tools "make" and "make install" |
| 03:53.46 | YaleR | this good |-------------------| |
| 03:53.50 | Wyzard | mohohaha: We wouldn't be using it if we didn't like it :-) |
| 03:54.05 | jair_11 | mohohaha, is the must cleaner and versitile, you will really learn Linux |
| 03:54.20 | Wyzard | mohohaha: However, there aren't really any units in which to measure "goodness"... are you looking for a number or something? :-) |
| 03:54.22 | axelxx | i see... |
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| 03:54.50 | jair_11 | guys I am trying to run a tar file with the tools "make" and "make install"? do I need to install those tools? |
| 03:54.59 | jair_11 | I have a from scratch sarge |
| 03:55.15 | jair_11 | and I am installing everything individually |
| 03:55.21 | jair_11 | I used the netinst |
| 03:55.22 | YaleR | I need help with startup programs, I want to start vsftpd on boot, can anyone help - it didn't come with any init.d script, but I was able to find one |
| 03:55.49 | YaleR | jair_11: I think it's kernel-tools that you need |
| 03:55.51 | buu | jair_11: Installing make would probably help. |
| 03:56.01 | buu | I like build-essential |
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| 03:56.35 | jair_11 | buu, or YaleR how I should do it ? apt-get install kernel tools? or make? |
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| 03:56.55 | YaleR | do what he said |
| 03:56.59 | bluefox83 | how do i find out what caused a crash that's listed in "last" |
| 03:57.00 | Wyzard | jair_11: apt-get install build-essential... that'll pull in the core stuff you need for compiling software |
| 03:57.01 | YaleR | apt-get install build-essential |
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| 03:57.14 | Wyzard | jair_11: You'll also need the -dev packages for any libraries your program depends on |
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| 03:57.25 | cheal | bluefox83: what's last? |
| 03:57.34 | bykte | how do u control the ip allocated to you?? |
| 03:57.41 | dondelelcaro | bykte: you don't. |
| 03:57.43 | bluefox83 | cheal, type last into a terminal... |
| 03:57.51 | buu | bykte: Get a knife and threaten whoever assigns them. |
| 03:57.54 | bluefox83 | it keeps track of every restart |
| 03:57.57 | Wyzard | bykte: Talk to whoever provides your network connection |
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| 03:58.03 | cheal | bluefox83: ah |
| 03:58.10 | bykte | Wyzard, what do i ask? |
| 03:58.22 | buu | bykte: Why do you care? |
| 03:58.45 | Wyzard | bykte: Ask whatever it is that you want to know... why do you have the IP that you do, how can you get a different one, whatever |
| 03:59.00 | YaleR | guys... come on, you're all pros... help me get my rc_.d shit together :( |
| 03:59.05 | bykte | wow what a helpful answer |
| 03:59.16 | jair_11 | Wyzard, normally apt-get take care of the dependencies? the dev files? |
| 03:59.45 | YaleR | jair_11: what are you trying to do, did you just install debian? |
| 04:00.19 | Wyzard | jair_11: If you're compiling a program yourself, the system has no way of knowing what libraries it depends on |
| 04:00.32 | cheal | YaleR: which release? |
| 04:00.38 | stew | jair_11: what are you compiling by the way? |
| 04:01.02 | jair_11 | stew, I am compiling the application dns updater "no-ip" |
| 04:01.06 | YaleR | I'm using sid, with newest kernel |
| 04:01.11 | NeoBREED | okay. I have a problem with the sound then |
| 04:01.18 | NeoBREED | I can play CD but not mp3 |
| 04:01.26 | NeoBREED | I've been working on this forever |
| 04:01.29 | NeoBREED | I thought I got it working |
| 04:01.33 | cheal | YaleR: sid? what are you doing on sid? |
| 04:01.34 | NeoBREED | Thinkpad 600 |
| 04:01.45 | NeoBREED | cs4232 with OSS |
| 04:01.53 | YaleR | .. what am I not doing is the question... |
| 04:01.53 | Wyzard | NeoBREED: I have one of those, but I'm not sure whether I ever got sound working on it |
| 04:02.00 | NeoBREED | ah man.... what do I do to get mp3 working? |
| 04:02.08 | buu | NeoBREED: Install a sound card? |
| 04:02.14 | Wyzard | NeoBREED: Some ISAPNP soundcard IIRC, but I could be confusing it with the 770 |
| 04:02.16 | YaleR | cheal: what does it matter? |
| 04:02.43 | stew | NeoBREED: do you have pcm turned up in the mixer? |
| 04:02.45 | NeoBREED | buu: dude, things aren't as simple as that all the time man... I've been working on this for a year |
| 04:02.47 | jair_11 | Wyzard, I am trying to compile the noip client updater for the dns of my server. |
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| 04:03.06 | NeoBREED | stew: I'm assuming so since I can play the CD |
| 04:03.10 | NeoBREED | with nice sound |
| 04:03.14 | NeoBREED | oh |
| 04:03.14 | jair_11 | but I was able with other applications I think because the came already with all those essential packages. |
| 04:03.17 | stew | NeoBREED: no they are differnt controls in the mixer |
| 04:03.23 | NeoBREED | perhaps... it's the issue with the mute/unmite things |
| 04:03.26 | NeoBREED | okay |
| 04:03.32 | cheal | YaleR: I thought someone that used sid would know vsftpd comes with an init.d script. otherwise I guess he installed the wrong release |
| 04:03.33 | jair_11 | stew, do you know what is the no-ip client updater |
| 04:03.35 | jair_11 | ? |
| 04:03.36 | Wyzard | jair_11: hmm... that's packaged in testing and unstable... you might be able to find a backport for woody on apt-get.org |
| 04:03.36 | NeoBREED | stew: tell me how to unmute the thing |
| 04:03.39 | stew | jair_11: never heard of it |
| 04:03.52 | Wyzard | jair_11: I use ez-ipupdate btw |
| 04:03.59 | NeoBREED | jair_11: it's the no-ip.com thing right? |
| 04:04.00 | stew | NeoBREED: i'd recommend installing and using "aumix" |
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| 04:04.17 | jair_11 | NeoBREED, yes |
| 04:04.23 | michal_d | does anyone know how to create a list of numbers between 2 specified ranges for use in scripts? |
| 04:04.23 | NeoBREED | stew: aumix-gtk |
| 04:04.25 | YaleR | cheal: mine didn't for some reason, I found one on the net though :/ |
| 04:04.32 | michal_d | i can't remember how i used to do it |
| 04:04.38 | bluefox83 | anyone here familiar with using "last"? |
| 04:04.47 | jair_11 | Wyzard, do you mean that no-ip is on the list of packages for "sarge"? |
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| 04:04.53 | buu | michal_d: switch to perl and use .. ! |
| 04:05.08 | Wyzard | jair_11: correct |
| 04:05.13 | BadMan | PerfDave: you around? |
| 04:05.17 | NeoBREED | jair_11, oh, that thing... if you have dynamic IP.... it updates your IP so that your pointer address say.... foo.no-ip.com will always go to the right IP |
| 04:05.19 | YaleR | cheal: but now update-rc.d? |
| 04:05.26 | jair_11 | Wyzard, I will check it out, because I have testing installed |
| 04:05.27 | cheal | YaleR: yes |
| 04:05.37 | YaleR | cheal: alright I will show you what it says |
| 04:05.39 | jair_11 | NeoBREED, correct very useful |
| 04:05.41 | Wyzard | jair_11: Then you can just "apt-get install no-ip" |
| 04:05.43 | michal_d | buu: so you'll have to tell me how to do " for n in 20 - 50; do something.n; done |
| 04:05.56 | jair_11 | NeoBREED, using it since long time ago |
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| 04:06.00 | michal_d | buu: otherwise perl is not of much use to me.. |
| 04:06.05 | jair_11 | Wyzard, that is cool |
| 04:06.06 | YaleR | cheal: System startup links for /etc/init.d/vsftpd already exist. |
| 04:06.20 | buu | michal_d: for( 20..5) { system("Something") } |
| 04:06.27 | Wyzard | jair_11: You should always check whether a program is available as a Debian package before you compile it yourself... avoid compiling software yourself when possible |
| 04:06.28 | jair_11 | vsftpd is the best ftp so far for me! :) |
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| 04:06.42 | michal_d | buu: how do i run that from the command like without needing to create a file? |
| 04:06.48 | jair_11 | Wyzard, thank you I will keep it on mind |
| 04:06.53 | buu | michal_d: perl -e'$code' |
| 04:06.58 | NeoBREED | stew: it's not muted.... it's at 50%.... damn.... need to turn it up to 100 |
| 04:06.59 | NeoBREED | haha |
| 04:07.02 | NeoBREED | stew: thanks |
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| 04:07.26 | cheal | michal_d: I think there's a simple way with bash3 |
| 04:07.35 | stew | NeoBREED: apt-get install some q-tips maybe :) |
| 04:07.40 | buu | cheal: No! You must use the all powerful perl! |
| 04:07.45 | cheal | YaleR: for what command? |
| 04:07.51 | NeoBREED | LOL... yeah |
| 04:08.06 | YaleR | cheal: update-rc.d vsftpd defaults |
| 04:08.09 | michal_d | buu: doesn't seem to do anything |
| 04:08.24 | buu | michal_d: It does whatever you told it to do, what did you tell it to do? |
| 04:08.41 | michal_d | and why can't generating a range of numbers be done from bash like it used to? |
| 04:08.47 | buu | Who said it can't? |
| 04:08.51 | bluefox83 | how do i get a kernel dump so i can determin whether a system crash was caused by software or hardware? |
| 04:09.12 | michal_d | buu: i stuch echo hello where something was since i didn't know what variable the numbers would be in |
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| 04:09.35 | LinuxNIT | how can i get a list of all programs currently running |
| 04:09.38 | cheal | YaleR: so what's the problem? |
| 04:09.40 | buu | michal_d: Yes? Echoes hello 30 times for me. |
| 04:09.45 | bluefox83 | LinuxNIT, top |
| 04:09.48 | buu | LinuxNIT: ps |
| 04:09.52 | bluefox83 | or ps x |
| 04:09.54 | michal_d | buu: doesn't echo anything at all for me |
| 04:10.01 | LinuxNIT | k thanks |
| 04:10.03 | YaleR | there don't seem to be any links in any rc files |
| 04:10.04 | buu | michal_d: What exactly did you type? |
| 04:10.14 | michal_d | anyway this is a waste of time.. it would be faster to do this 50 times manually than automate it at this rate :/ |
| 04:10.15 | Wyzard | michal_: You mean like {1..10} in a command line? |
| 04:10.16 | YaleR | doesn't work |
| 04:10.20 | Wyzard | michal_: That does still work |
| 04:10.22 | BadMan | hmm, still no luck on my sound in fuhquake.... |
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| 04:10.42 | cheal | YaleR: rc files? |
| 04:10.47 | YaleR | rc folders sorry |
| 04:11.04 | buu | Wyzard: Shh, you must use perl! |
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| 04:11.59 | Bangers | how can i at the command line create a 10,00 line file |
| 04:11.59 | Bangers | with say 10 chars on each line, what the line says is irrelavent |
| 04:11.59 | michal_d | wyzard: no.. never seen that way before.. how do i get that to work? it just ehco it back at me without evaliating.. i remember i used to be able to use some very short comman.. like num 2 40 and it would return numbers 2 to 40 for me |
| 04:11.59 | cheal | YaleR: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*vsftpd |
| 04:12.06 | buu | Bangers: perl -le'print $_ for 0..10_000' > file |
| 04:12.15 | YaleR | :o |
| 04:12.15 | buu | oh that's not 10 chars |
| 04:12.17 | buu | But oh well. |
| 04:12.21 | YaleR | Icarus:/etc# ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*vsftpd |
| 04:12.22 | YaleR | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2005-04-20 22:54 /etc/rc2.d/K00vsftpd -> ../init.d/vsftpd |
| 04:12.24 | Wyzard | michal_: On my sid system, "echo {1..10}" prints "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10" |
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| 04:12.33 | cheal | YaleR: so... :S |
| 04:12.36 | YaleR | lol |
| 04:12.38 | YaleR | let me see |
| 04:12.41 | jair_11 | Wyzard, I think I still needing something this is the result of the apt-get install no-ip; ->Starting dynamic address update: Can't locate configuration file /etc/no-ip.conf. (Try -c). Ending! |
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| 04:12.51 | michal_d | anyway this is a waste of time.. it would be faster to do this 50 times manually than automate it at this rate :/echo {1..10} |
| 04:12.51 | michal_d | {1..10} |
| 04:12.52 | jair_11 | anyone have any idea of what I have to do? |
| 04:12.55 | matsuo | Hello? |
| 04:12.56 | YaleR | cheal: shouldn't it also be in rcconf? |
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| 04:12.59 | Antonio` | hi |
| 04:13.00 | redduck666 | http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0373074/Ss/0373074/poster.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0373074 how can i |
| 04:13.01 | Wyzard | jair_11: Yes, you need to write a configuration file, as it tells you |
| 04:13.03 | redduck666 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:13.04 | buu | jair_11: try -c ! |
| 04:13.12 | axelxx | hi is there any easy way to install unstable packages through ssl? |
| 04:13.19 | matsuo | Anyone have any idea what driver I need to make sound work on a Toshiba Satellite A65 laptop? |
| 04:13.29 | YaleR | and if I go into the folder it isn't visible :/ |
| 04:13.36 | Antonio` | please tell me where I can find the virtual package "zendapi-20010901" |
| 04:13.53 | jair_11 | Wyzard, what that means? |
| 04:13.59 | jair_11 | buu? |
| 04:14.06 | buu | jair_11: It means, run the program with a -c |
| 04:14.07 | YaleR | does it need to be in any other rc folders? like maybe 5? |
| 04:14.07 | cheal | YaleR: really :? |
| 04:14.08 | jair_11 | buu, what means try -c? |
| 04:14.16 | KinxofSepluv | Anyone know anything about TV Tuners? Particulary a saa7134 module type? |
| 04:14.28 | streuner | matsuo: what version of debian? |
| 04:14.29 | jair_11 | i.e. #./ -c no-ip |
| 04:14.34 | michal_d | what i actually need to do is for n in 36 to 53; cat file.r$n.? file.r$n.?? file.r$n.??? > file.r$n; done |
| 04:14.34 | YaleR | it's neither in rcconf or rc5.. :/ doesn't it need to be? |
| 04:14.37 | Bangers | buu, why is the 10k 10_000 |
| 04:14.47 | buu | Bangers: Because it looks nice than 100000 ? |
| 04:15.00 | jair_11 | buu, hahaha I am sorry I am a dummy newbie on the debian things |
| 04:15.02 | Bangers | so you can just underscore numbers in perl? |
| 04:15.06 | buu | Sure |
| 04:15.32 | jair_11 | buu, my friend don't ,make me feel frustrated I will not frustrate |
| 04:15.40 | matsuo | Is there a script I can run to figure out which sounddriver I'm suppose to be useing? |
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| 04:15.53 | jair_11 | Wyzard, I need a map |
| 04:15.55 | jair_11 | I am lost |
| 04:15.57 | cheal | Antonio`: what needs that? |
| 04:15.59 | streuner | matsuo: answer my question |
| 04:16.03 | jair_11 | what I shuld do ? |
| 04:16.11 | axelxx | how do i install unstable package? |
| 04:16.12 | jair_11 | where I will write the configuretion what? |
| 04:16.13 | LinuxNIT | how do i make a script execute at start up? |
| 04:16.17 | matsuo | Streuner: I didn't see your question, please repeat it. |
| 04:16.22 | streuner | matsuo: what version of debian? |
| 04:16.29 | KinxofSepluv | Matsua: alsaconfig sould detect and install you sound card |
| 04:16.29 | cheal | axelxx: what's your release? |
| 04:16.29 | matsuo | Streuner: Sarge |
| 04:16.33 | jair_11 | I know how to use vi vim but where and what I shuld write? |
| 04:16.42 | Wyzard | jair_11: Read the documentation for no-ip. It can't magically know what domain you want to update or what account to log in with; you have to configure it. |
| 04:16.43 | jair_11 | what about the try -c? |
| 04:16.48 | streuner | matsuo: so you have 2.6.8 kernel installed? |
| 04:16.51 | axelxx | cheal: i don't know |
| 04:16.59 | jair_11 | Wyzard, ok |
| 04:17.01 | jair_11 | I will check |
| 04:17.09 | Wyzard | jair_11: The message told you that the configuration file is /etc/no-ip.conf; that's what you need to create |
| 04:17.25 | cheal | axelxx: you don't want to install unstable packages before you know which release you're running |
| 04:17.26 | Wyzard | jair_11: The manpage for the no-ip program would tell you what the "-c" option does; presumably it has something to do with creating a configuration file |
| 04:17.28 | Antonio` | cheal: it's a dependency of php4-gd2_4.1.2-2_i386.deb |
| 04:17.29 | llama32 | anyone know of a file manager similar to next/gnustep's "file viewer"? its mainly the little bit up the top where you see the path represented as icons that im afer... |
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| 04:17.35 | matsuo | Streuner: Doubt it, I just installed from a woody disk and did the correct changes to /etc/apt/sources.list followed by apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 04:17.45 | axelxx | cheal: does it matter? |
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| 04:18.08 | streuner | matsuo: install an 2.6.8 kernel-image and just run 'alsaconf |
| 04:18.13 | cheal | axelxx: most likely |
| 04:18.18 | streuner | !find alsaconf |
| 04:18.31 | axelxx | cheal: how do i know it? |
| 04:18.34 | jair_11 | Wyzard, my friend thank you you are a saver |
| 04:18.34 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'alsaconf' (1): (/usr/sbin/alsaconf, /usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/alsaconf.mo) in sound/alsa-utils. |
| 04:18.37 | streuner | matsuo: check out /msg dpkg laptop |
| 04:18.45 | cheal | axelxx: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 04:18.50 | streuner | matsuo: apt-get install alsa-utils |
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| 04:19.29 | pixil9 | Can anyone tell me an alternative to deborphan? |
| 04:19.31 | matsuo | And another question... dselect tried to destroy my system (Uninstalling lilo and such) Is there a way I can force it to dump any changes and just give me what is currently on the systeml, so when I go to install it doesn't want to remove packages? |
| 04:19.41 | streuner | pixil9: debfoster |
| 04:19.46 | cheal | Antonio`: apt-cache showpkg foo |
| 04:19.57 | axelxx | cheal:3.0 |
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| 04:20.06 | warchest | dselect sucks |
| 04:20.10 | KinxofSepluv | !find v4l |
| 04:20.12 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'v4l' (4): libpt-plugins-v4l ;; libpt-plugins-v4l2 ;; libvideo-capture-v4l-perl ;; v4l-conf. |
| 04:20.22 | cheal | axelxx: so you're running woody. what are you trying to do? |
| 04:20.23 | pixil9 | streuner, That's the name. thanks! |
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| 04:20.33 | matsuo | I find it kind of annoying that dselect wants to remove lilo to install kde... |
| 04:20.46 | michal_d | why doesn't for {1..10}; echo hello; done work? |
| 04:20.48 | KinxofSepluv | !info v4l-conf |
| 04:20.56 | dpkg | v4l-conf: (tool to configure video4linux drivers), section graphics, is extra. Version: 3.94-1 (sid), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 100 kB |
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| 04:21.03 | streuner | matsuo: so just use apt-get and dpkg |
| 04:21.04 | Antonio` | cheal, thank you =) |
| 04:21.05 | axelxx | cheal: i need to upgrade on package (Wine) to unstable from SSH |
| 04:21.08 | cheal | !tell KinxofSepluv about msg the bot |
| 04:21.13 | streuner | matsuo: run 'apt-get update |
| 04:21.25 | matsuo | streuner: I try, but doesn't work when I don't know the name of the package... |
| 04:21.28 | warchest | michal_: depends on your shell.. use for i in `seq 0 10 1` |
| 04:21.36 | michal_d | eseq !!! |
| 04:21.38 | warchest | er 0 1 10 |
| 04:21.41 | michal_d | seq |
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| 04:21.44 | streuner | matsuo: what package do you need? |
| 04:21.46 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 04:21.50 | streuner | matsuo: describe it |
| 04:21.52 | michal_d | bloody hell!! that's it |
| 04:21.57 | michal_d | nnobody here new about seq |
| 04:22.01 | cheal | axelxx: hum, are you using the target box as a desktop or a server? |
| 04:22.07 | warchest | obviously thats not true, i did :) |
| 04:22.19 | Antonio` | What could be the reason that I can print everything but a PDF file |
| 04:22.25 | michal_d | warchest: that doens't count.. you're somebody |
| 04:22.35 | warchest | hah. ok. i'll let it slide then. |
| 04:22.39 | axelxx | cheal: server |
| 04:22.39 | YaleR | cheal: the name of the rc2 file is K00vsftpd, does the K00 make sense? |
| 04:22.40 | matsuo | Streuner: Well right now I'm going to be getting the kernel image, but when I was at woody and upgraded to sarge then tried to install KDE, it wanted to remove lilo |
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| 04:23.27 | llama32 | anyone know of a good file manager like rox but a nicer interface? say konq/nautilus and ill promply vomit all over you... |
| 04:23.42 | cheal | YaleR: hum, I don't think (not 100% sure) |
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| 04:23.56 | streuner | matsuo: apt-get don't force you in sarge to remove lilo, i have no idea what that could be |
| 04:24.03 | matsuo | Ok.. I want to ask someone how to fix this problem, however it involves pasting a few lines which I'd rather not spam the general channel with. |
| 04:24.10 | warchest | #spam |
| 04:24.14 | matsuo | Streuner: Can we open a private channel for a moment? |
| 04:24.23 | streuner | matsuo: /msg dpkg flood |
| 04:24.25 | BadMan | I need to supply a /dev/... for -snddev command line parameter for fuhquake, any ideas? |
| 04:24.32 | C17H21NO4 | I just bought a netgear wg511 but it is a version 2 which |
| 04:24.33 | C17H21NO4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.33 | C17H21NO4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.43 | C17H21NO4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.49 | C17H21NO4 | Sorry. |
| 04:24.50 | warchest | C17H21NO4: kill yourself |
| 04:24.50 | YaleR | cheal: all others start with S and have a number - I'm guessing order of operation :/ most are S20 |
| 04:24.53 | streuner | matsuo: we prefer to help people in channel |
| 04:24.58 | cheal | axelxx: I wonder why you need wine...but you can't decently use an unstable package such as wine on stable AFAIK |
| 04:25.23 | bykte | how do i get 'dig' command installed? |
| 04:25.28 | warchest | matsuo: i'm in #flood.. go ahead |
| 04:25.31 | streuner | dnsutils |
| 04:25.35 | warchest | bykte| apt-file search dig |
| 04:25.53 | cheal | YaleR: yeah, I guess it's wrong |
| 04:26.06 | matsuo | How do I wipe out all those 'remove' packages so they go back to their regular state (Installed) ? |
| 04:26.08 | TheMoebius | I can't find eclipse in apt, whats the package name? |
| 04:26.21 | matsuo | Umm... |
| 04:26.23 | cheal | axelxx: I meant unsable's wine |
| 04:26.27 | YaleR | cheal: do you happen to know if the files are any different from rc2 to rc5? |
| 04:26.33 | jair_11 | wyzard all done |
| 04:26.35 | matsuo | dpkg just messaged me saying I pasted too much and it's going to ignore me.. |
| 04:26.35 | warchest | matsuo: remove a package so it showed up installed? wtf? |
| 04:26.42 | jair_11 | Wyzard, thank you very much |
| 04:26.42 | axelxx | cheal: i do not have access to the pc. but need to update package |
| 04:26.45 | cheal | TheMoebius: apt-cache search eclipse (need non-free, sid sources) |
| 04:26.45 | YaleR | I think I will just change it's name and copy it to rc5, reboot and see what happens |
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| 04:26.51 | warchest | matsuo: no /msg dpkg flood, and he tells you to join #flood to paste. READ. |
| 04:26.53 | jair_11 | very simple |
| 04:27.01 | matsuo | warchest: I did. |
| 04:27.05 | streuner | matsuo: /msg dpkg deborphan |
| 04:27.08 | warchest | you want ^rc -> ii in dpkg -l ? |
| 04:27.09 | bykte | warchest. nothing |
| 04:27.09 | matsuo | warchest: I'm in #flood |
| 04:27.17 | bykte | no relevant |
| 04:27.21 | warchest | bykte: bullshit! |
| 04:27.21 | cheal | YaleR: ah...you use runlevel 5? |
| 04:27.29 | bykte | warchest wanna bet? |
| 04:27.32 | jair_11 | Wyzard, the thing is that is good try to understand the logic of the application and operating system working. |
| 04:27.33 | bluefox83 | does anyone know another way to get crash information besides a kernel dump? |
| 04:27.39 | jair_11 | very nice |
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| 04:27.46 | warchest | sk:/home/free/donvito# dpkg -L dnsutils|grep dig |
| 04:27.47 | warchest | /usr/bin/dig |
| 04:27.53 | YaleR | cheal: I don't know what debian uses, 3? |
| 04:27.54 | matsuo | warchest: Bah, it ignored me the first time... I need to convince dselect not to remove those packages.. how? |
| 04:28.01 | cheal | YaleR: 2 by default |
| 04:28.04 | YaleR | I thought 5 was for X11 |
| 04:28.11 | warchest | matsuo: dselect sucks.. if you use it you're wasting valuable time :\ |
| 04:28.15 | cheal | YaleR: Redhatism I believe |
| 04:28.16 | bykte | warchest, thanks, it's under dnsutils |
| 04:28.18 | YaleR | er.. x-server |
| 04:28.28 | cheal | although some others might follow that too, like gentoo |
| 04:28.31 | YaleR | cheal: alright, thanks,I'm going to try |
| 04:28.35 | streuner | matsuo: just don't use it? ;-) |
| 04:28.51 | warchest | use apt-get to do everything.. forget dselect |
| 04:28.54 | gravity | dselect probably has good reasons for wanting to remove packages |
| 04:29.00 | gravity | warchest: No. apt-get < aptitude |
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| 04:29.11 | gravity | Hell, apt-get < dselect in reality |
| 04:29.21 | windowwasher | cheal : run level 5 is X under Sun, too |
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| 04:29.56 | cheal | windowwasher: ok. I'm not going to remember sun stuff, though :) |
| 04:29.56 | bluefox83 | i use apt-get, dselect is crap >.> |
| 04:30.03 | matsuo | dselect was having problems with debconf and telling me that it had to remove it.. not sure why. |
| 04:30.04 | warchest | dselect is crap |
| 04:30.11 | cheal | console-apt rules! |
| 04:30.13 | warchest | you'll never convince me other wise |
| 04:30.18 | bluefox83 | so is aptitude.. |
| 04:30.20 | matsuo | A use apt-get or aptitude when I know the name of the package, otherwise I use dselect |
| 04:30.27 | windowwasher | cheal : heh. well, i suppose... this is #debian. |
| 04:30.37 | warchest | if i dont know hte name of a pkg i use apt-cache, apt-file, google, or debian.org |
| 04:30.37 | gravity | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/07/msg02135.html |
| 04:30.46 | gravity | Read that and remind me why you use apt-get again |
| 04:31.04 | gravity | matsuo: aptitude can let you search for the package name like dselect |
| 04:31.07 | windowwasher | cheal, tho i kinda go by Sun as default-standard. for better or worse |
| 04:31.17 | streuner | matsuo: if you using KDE, try kpackage as viewer of the installed or avaiable packages |
| 04:31.26 | matsuo | Well, at any rate.. can someone please tell me how to reset the list? It's rather annoying that any time I use it it tells me I need to remove lilo |
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| 04:31.48 | cheal | kpackage...ugh |
| 04:31.51 | warchest | i've ran debian fine forever without using dselect and aptitude. maybe there is a learning curve i'm not willing to do but i see no reason to do it |
| 04:32.06 | streuner | matsuo: i told you, just run apt-get update |
| 04:32.06 | warchest | i run sid and the dependency tree sometimes completley breaks shit |
| 04:32.13 | warchest | so i HATE it when they decide what they want to do. |
| 04:32.18 | gravity | warchest: aptitude and dselect handle complex upgrades that apt-get simply can't do |
| 04:32.24 | warchest | i did a dist-upgrade and it removed squid last week.. i had to reinstall it by hand. |
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| 04:32.49 | gravity | apt-get is really just a demo app for libapt. |
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| 04:32.54 | matsuo | Can someone please tell me how to force dselect to drop any changes from the current system? |
| 04:32.56 | jair_11 | guys I have done my ip configuration and dns automatic updater |
| 04:32.57 | cheal | I just hope synaptic would do complex upgrades too |
| 04:33.13 | KinxofSepluv | Hmmm I find Aptitude and Synaptic very usefull tools. More usefull than Yast Ever was. |
| 04:33.22 | warchest | slapt-get! |
| 04:33.57 | gravity | cheal: It can |
| 04:34.00 | streuner | matsuo: man dselect? |
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| 04:34.12 | PumpkinPie | how do I disable only SSH for some users? |
| 04:34.30 | warchest | PumpkinPie: change their shell to /bin/false ? |
| 04:34.31 | streuner | PumpkinPie: man sshd_conf? |
| 04:34.39 | warchest | use hosts.deny ? |
| 04:34.55 | stew | PumpkinPie: what streuner said |
| 04:35.07 | PumpkinPie | hosts.deny seems easier |
| 04:35.10 | stew | PumpkinPie: no |
| 04:35.30 | PumpkinPie | warchest: /bin/false would disable FTP ? |
| 04:35.32 | matsuo | streuner: Doesn't help.. it wants to remove lilo and I'm looking for an easy way to say 'forget everything you want to do' |
| 04:35.35 | cheal | gravity: ok, well it has problems with APT pinning |
| 04:35.41 | streuner | PumpkinPie: sshd_conf is well commented |
| 04:35.55 | warchest | PumpkinPie: not if you put /bin/false in /etc/shells |
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| 04:36.30 | streuner | matsuo: Why do you asking us then? You are ignoring all advices of us :-) |
| 04:36.34 | maher | matsuo: ctrl-c? |
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| 04:37.07 | warchest | matsuo: the 3 finger solute, kill -SIGHEIL, plenty of ways to stop it :) |
| 04:37.10 | PumpkinPie | ah.. /etc/shells ... learn something new |
| 04:37.21 | furrywolf | "The BBC further notes that 48 per cent of teens trust TV "completely or a lot"" sad. VERY sad. |
| 04:37.26 | warchest | i need to quit coming on freenode |
| 04:37.28 | warchest | i spend too much time |
| 04:37.40 | roo9 | what is the name of that program that starts a subshell and captures all the output from that subshell into a file? |
| 04:37.51 | warchest | roo9: a nosy admin ? |
| 04:37.58 | matsuo | streuner: No.. I'm following the advice... ctrl-c doesn't work, it's writing the list somewhere... and I'm not as well versed in apt-get and aptitude yet to get rid of dselect completely. man dselect has nothing in regards to this. |
| 04:38.03 | karsten | warchest: At the very least, wear your party hat. |
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| 04:38.21 | maher | matsuo: why is it trying to remove lilo? |
| 04:38.31 | warchest | maher: because dselect owns :) |
| 04:38.32 | karsten | warchest: ...and what's the numeric signal for SIGHEIL? |
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| 04:38.37 | streuner | maher: he have no idea |
| 04:38.39 | warchest | karsten: that was a joke |
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| 04:38.41 | warchest | kill -9 or SIGTERM |
| 04:38.47 | stew | roo9: script? |
| 04:38.49 | warchest | a few of my friends recoded their kernel to make sigterm sigheil |
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| 04:38.54 | karsten | warchest: *Really*? |
| 04:38.56 | warchest | it is very very very very very funny |
| 04:38.57 | warchest | yes |
| 04:39.00 | matsuo | Maher: Not exactly sure, when I tried to install KDE before it wanted to remove a bunch of things going down to debconf which a bunch of other things, including lilo, require.. |
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| 04:39.09 | warchest | who gets to kill -SIGHEIL a process? only those guys ;p |
| 04:39.10 | roo9 | stew: yay, thanks |
| 04:39.14 | stew | yay |
| 04:39.26 | warchest | stew :) |
| 04:39.29 | matsuo | Maher: So, in order to get it to install KDE I ended up useing aptitude, but it still has the 'packages to remove' in dselect |
| 04:40.03 | warchest | matsuo: just run base-config and install x windows from there .. it'll put gnome and shit on there but its worth the extra install vs the headache in the end |
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| 04:40.20 | Ermo- | Hi |
| 04:40.29 | stew | matsuo: you should be able to echo 'pkgname install' | dpkg --set-selections ; for any pacakges that are marked for removal that you don't want removed |
| 04:40.32 | maher | matsuo: use dselect + the packages you want to keep, then press return - if it dumps you to a screen of conflicting packages, stare at them and see which ones conflict - remove the least essential conflicting ones |
| 04:41.23 | Antonio` | Please, how to print a PDF File? My Printer works with every kind of file, but when I try to print a PDF file, CUPS always tells me that it is preparing but nothing prints |
| 04:41.39 | Ermo- | g |
| 04:41.53 | dondelelcaro | Antonio`: xpdf will output PS that your printer should be able to print. |
| 04:41.56 | streuner | Antonio`: that only happens with one app or with different apps? |
| 04:41.57 | warchest | Antonio`: get a pdf to postscript converter and print that way ? |
| 04:42.01 | maher | Antonio`: install gs-esd |
| 04:42.24 | maher | Antonio`: i mean install gs-esp |
| 04:42.41 | matsuo | stew: You're giving me closest to what I need so far, but is there a way to have it run down the list automaticly? That's alot of packages to manually type out |
| 04:42.47 | maher | Antonio`: if you had turned on debug and looked in the logs it would have told you |
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| 04:43.22 | Antonio` | dondelelcaro, also when I try to print PS it does not work |
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| 04:43.29 | Antonio` | streuner, with Acrobat and with xpdf |
| 04:43.45 | Antonio` | warchest, the same, PS cannot be printed too |
| 04:43.50 | maher | Antonio`: install gs-esp |
| 04:43.56 | Antonio` | maher, ok |
| 04:43.58 | Antonio` | I will |
| 04:44.01 | warchest | Antonio`: you've got a bigger problem on your hand then pdfs . |
| 04:44.10 | warchest | sounds like your printer sucks |
| 04:44.18 | warchest | er is broke |
| 04:44.49 | warchest | was talking to my roomie about how something sucks and i typed it ;\ |
| 04:44.53 | stew | matsuo: can you capture a list of packages from somewhere? then you could, say for a in `cat filecontianinglistofpackages` ; do echo $a install | dpkg --set-selections ; done |
| 04:44.54 | Antonio` | maher, Need to get 60.8MB of archives. |
| 04:44.58 | Antonio` | maher, I have a modem |
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| 04:45.44 | warchest | use xargs and get em all at once stew! |
| 04:46.03 | maher | Antonio`: make yourself a nice cup of tea |
| 04:46.24 | Ermo- | :) |
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| 04:46.42 | stew | warchest: i just wasn't sure how dpkg --set-selections wanted its input for multiple packages |
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| 04:46.50 | kadu | mm |
| 04:46.52 | warchest | ah |
| 04:46.59 | kadu | i finally got my deb set up |
| 04:47.26 | kadu | anyways |
| 04:47.52 | yildirim | hello, i searching for debian testing on the web. is debian sarge same as debian testing? |
| 04:47.52 | kadu | i got a question for somone in here, how do i use the whole xwine deal? |
| 04:48.09 | streuner | yildirim: yep |
| 04:48.17 | yildirim | thanx ;) |
| 04:48.40 | streuner | kadu: 'xwine deal'? |
| 04:48.51 | PumpkinPie | streuner: "No manual entry for sshd_conf" |
| 04:49.21 | kadu | Like the how do i use it? Do i have to just put the game cd in and install and it will do the rest for me? |
| 04:49.26 | stew | yildirim: currently |
| 04:49.27 | streuner | PumpkinPie: sshd_conf is well described |
| 04:49.48 | streuner | PumpkinPie: man sshd |
| 04:49.56 | warchest | kadu: debian.org clearly has distros named spelled out, but yes sarge is testing |
| 04:50.02 | stew | PumpkinPie: sshd_config he meant |
| 04:50.20 | yildirim | streuner is it 1 cd ? or more than 1? |
| 04:50.32 | kadu | i never asked anything about sarge |
| 04:50.38 | warchest | oh |
| 04:50.39 | streuner | !tell yildirim about d-i |
| 04:50.44 | warchest | yildirim: that was meant for you |
| 04:50.47 | stew | yildirim: its 15 cds but you only need the 1st or a netinst |
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| 04:50.50 | warchest | kadu: sorry i cant read at late hours |
| 04:50.54 | matsuo | I'm curious, is there an appromiate date when Sarge will become stable? |
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| 04:51.00 | stew | matsuo: nope |
| 04:51.07 | stew | matsuo: /msg dpkg wwsr |
| 04:51.20 | wrs | Re... |
| 04:51.30 | stew | matsuo: and while you're at it /msg dpkg wir ; /msg dpkg siyh |
| 04:51.37 | kadu | warchest: ok, anyways do you know how xwine works? do i just put the cd in and it will do the rest for me? |
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| 04:51.45 | wrs | is someone here who can help with dict/dictd? |
| 04:51.53 | warchest | wrs: if you asked a specific question |
| 04:52.04 | wrs | warchest: I get stuck in making dictd queryable. I installed the dictd package, several dictionaries, the dict client and furthermore the kdict client. I told kdict to use localhost:2628 (i.e. the common dictd port) but it refused my request. Then tried it using dict (command line client), resulting in the same. Then i queried dict.org with both the clients - and it works. But preferably I'd like to use a local dict server but being online all the t |
| 04:52.34 | warchest | kadu: no there is some basic configuration in [x]wine.. you have to setup a psudo registry and such |
| 04:52.45 | warchest | wine is really not that hard to use.. pop it in and try it. i just use wine though, |
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| 04:53.12 | kadu | xwine isnt wine? |
| 04:53.20 | kadu | whats is the difference? |
| 04:53.20 | warchest | wrs: if it refused your connection did you look to see if it was listening on the loopback or external if, both, or ? |
| 04:53.25 | kadu | exept the visual concept |
| 04:53.29 | jair_11 | anyone here has been configure the VNC and tunnel it with ssh to make it more secure? |
| 04:53.31 | warchest | one is a graphical front end for the other |
| 04:53.43 | wrs | warchest: no. How can I do so? |
| 04:53.54 | axelxx | what is the syntax. of etc/apt/sorces.list? |
| 04:53.55 | warchest | wrs: lsof -i -n|grep -i process or netstat -anp and look |
| 04:53.59 | kadu | i dont know. i kinda like the visual better |
| 04:54.08 | jair_11 | I want to make some clients to access and manipulate their linux or windows computers from remotely locations? |
| 04:54.09 | TheMoebius | how should I install rpms? |
| 04:54.10 | warchest | axelxx: run base-config and select a source or google it |
| 04:54.20 | warchest | TheMoebius: install redhat |
| 04:54.31 | cheal | !tell TheMoebius about alien |
| 04:54.50 | jair_11 | anyone here has been able of configure VNC with tunneling SSH? |
| 04:54.57 | stew | TheMoebius: with alien, but you *really* need to ask if there isn't a debian way to install whatever you are trying to install first |
| 04:55.14 | warchest | installing rpms on a debian system is asking for trouble imho |
| 04:55.18 | warchest | but try it and see |
| 04:55.21 | ecfx | I agree. |
| 04:55.24 | ecfx | I used alien once |
| 04:55.29 | ecfx | For ati drivers |
| 04:55.35 | stew | jair_11: what have you tried so far? |
| 04:55.39 | ecfx | worked fine |
| 04:55.49 | wrs | warchest: netstat -anp | grep dict results in ... well shall i post it to #flood? |
| 04:55.55 | warchest | no |
| 04:55.58 | warchest | grep -i listen as well |
| 04:56.14 | matsuo | alsa conflicts with hotplug and pciutils? |
| 04:56.21 | warchest | then you can see 127.0.0.1:dict and 66.66.66.66:dict |
| 04:56.27 | warchest | or it |
| 04:56.32 | stew | ati drivers would be an example of somethign that probably shouldn't be installed using an rpm |
| 04:56.33 | jair_11 | stew, my friend you are cool, thank you for answer me. |
| 04:56.34 | warchest | or it'll have *:dict .. that means all if |
| 04:56.41 | wrs | warchest: no result. Does that mean, dictd isn't listening at all? |
| 04:56.42 | jair_11 | stew, I am almost getting it. |
| 04:56.48 | warchest | wrs: not necessarily |
| 04:56.53 | matsuo | what package has alsaconfig in it? |
| 04:56.58 | jair_11 | stew, I have right now a sarge RC3 |
| 04:57.00 | warchest | is the process running? and i suggest using lsof and not netstat for looking. |
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| 04:57.11 | stew | matsuo: /msg dpkg search |
| 04:57.16 | cheal | matsuo: you must mean alsaconf? |
| 04:57.34 | jair_11 | stew, it is installed from scratch, and I want to be able of install a VNC server that can be use from windows clients as well. |
| 04:57.42 | streuner | matsuo: Why do you ask those questions twice? |
| 04:57.53 | stew | jair_11: xvncserver |
| 04:57.59 | stew | jair_11: err, vncserver |
| 04:58.05 | streuner | matsuo: fix one problem, then the next one |
| 04:58.08 | matsuo | Cheal: Whatever it is I need to make my sound work... I asked twice because I was fixing dselect first.. now that it's fixed I forgot which package I needed for sound. |
| 04:58.11 | jair_11 | stew, I tryied the configuration in a FC3 and I get all mad because they only use realvnc and I was using tight vnc |
| 04:58.17 | wrs | warchest: well a "ps ax | grep dictd" resulted in no dictd running. But definetely I started it a while ago. Does it shut down automatically? |
| 04:58.28 | cheal | !tell matsuo about alsa 2.6 |
| 04:58.34 | jair_11 | stew, what VNC server do you recommend me? |
| 04:58.40 | warchest | wrs: no you probably dont have it configure correctly so it terminates and never launches in to the background which is probably your REAL problem |
| 04:59.05 | stew | jair_11: do you want to share a desktop with a console user or have the remote user have his own server? |
| 04:59.10 | warchest | /etc/init.d/dict* start and if its not in ps then you need to look at your system logs and strace the startup scripts and begin debugging |
| 04:59.35 | jair_11 | stew, I will be installing the VNC on a Linux machine and they will be using either "winscp" or "putty" to connect. like that will be easier for them to work on their files. |
| 04:59.49 | TheMoebius | stew, I'm trying to install openoffice.org 2.0 beta, and it doesn't seem to be packaged as .debs yet. From their site I can only see the collection of .rpm's I downloaded alien, but I don't see any kind of interface for it in the menu's. Plus, I think if it was as simple as using alien to convert the .rpms to the .debs, it would be in apt-already |
| 04:59.53 | jair_11 | stew, hmmm I am confuse on that one |
| 05:00.01 | maher | TheMoebius: man alien |
| 05:00.13 | warchest | TheMoebius: i HIGHLY dont recommend installing something as large as open office from rpms |
| 05:00.14 | maher | TheMoebius: fakeroot may be helpful too |
| 05:00.16 | jair_11 | that each user have their own session |
| 05:00.18 | warchest | that will be a dependency nightmare |
| 05:00.18 | jair_11 | I guess |
| 05:00.26 | warchest | drivers are small and easy.. but open office.. cmon ;\ |
| 05:00.29 | dondelelcaro | TheMoebius: you're generally best of not doing that sort of thing... if you actually want to see oo.org 2.0 in .debs, consider helping out with the packaging of open-office. |
| 05:00.32 | stew | TheMoebius: ask in #debian-oo or #openoffic.org |
| 05:00.45 | TheMoebius | ok |
| 05:01.11 | dondelelcaro | ah yes... "official 2 debs in work, don't ask" |
| 05:01.34 | warchest | compile it from source! be a gentoo user err man! :) |
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| 05:01.46 | stew | jair_11: just use the vncserver packages then |
| 05:02.00 | stew | jair_11: winscp is just for copying files, nothing else afaik |
| 05:02.24 | jair_11 | stew, I saw the package tight vnc server on the testing package list. web site |
| 05:02.29 | warchest | well if you just want to let them ssh in via putty.. just enable sshd ? |
| 05:02.34 | jair_11 | stew, correct |
| 05:02.44 | stew | jair_11: yes |
| 05:02.46 | wrs | warchest: could be... it's yet again gone... So, about the configs. There is a /etc/dictd/dictd.conf containing several comment lines and an access section that should give access to localhost. It includes a db.list file which is also available and listing some of the dictionaries. |
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| 05:03.06 | jair_11 | stew, I want to first let then control, manipulate their machines using the vnc but secure with the encryption of ssh |
| 05:03.10 | warchest | wrs: try to start the daemon manually so you can see the error output |
| 05:03.19 | warchest | sometimes that gets piped in to oblivion |
| 05:03.45 | jair_11 | warchest, but I want they could see their desktops how they controll them. |
| 05:04.02 | warchest | ohh nevermind jair. i get what you're saying |
| 05:04.12 | jair_11 | this people is not Linux users, and they know little bit of windows not professional or somthing similar. |
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| 05:04.36 | stew | jair_11: and so whats the question? |
| 05:04.51 | jair_11 | stew, ok so then let say that I will be installing that server "tightvnc" on the sarge server I have at home |
| 05:04.58 | wrs | warchest: As far as I could see, there wasn't any error output. I looked for a msg in /var/log/something but I didn't see any. The /etc/init.d/dict start does just output the common "Starting dictionary server: dictd." Nothing else. |
| 05:05.08 | kuntu | when is new debian ready ? |
| 05:05.21 | warchest | and ps axu|grep dict reveals nothing? |
| 05:05.24 | stew | !topicsmite kuntu |
| 05:05.27 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon kuntu. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 05:05.31 | jair_11 | stew, I will have to 1- configure the port local and public on the router correct. |
| 05:05.36 | warchest | you have a problem somewhere. man dictd or whatever and enable verbose output / debug mode |
| 05:05.38 | kuntu | no spam pls |
| 05:05.40 | stew | jair_11: incorrect |
| 05:05.46 | jair_11 | stew, the server VNC will be running |
| 05:05.52 | jair_11 | stew, why? |
| 05:05.53 | wrs | warchest: "/etc/init.d/dictd start && ps ax | grep dict" results in "27115 ? Z 0:00 [dictd] <defunct>" |
| 05:05.53 | stew | jair_11: unless you are not already letting ssh (22) throush |
| 05:05.58 | matsuo | cheal: Where can I get a binary of the 2.6 kernel? |
| 05:06.07 | jair_11 | stew, ohh correct |
| 05:06.20 | warchest | wrs: lsof -i -n|grep 27115 |
| 05:06.25 | jair_11 | stew, I have already the ssh through that it is true I am done |
| 05:06.26 | stew | jair_11: the server VNC will be running: you said that will be the tight vnc server |
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| 05:06.55 | jair_11 | stew, Ihave to configure (make sure) that the tightvnc is not accepting remote or outside to inside connections |
| 05:07.05 | jair_11 | stew, yes |
| 05:07.10 | streuner | matsuo: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6. |
| 05:07.11 | wrs | warchest: No, that doesn't make anything, because 27115 died immediately after the ps |
| 05:07.25 | warchest | wrs: you have a problem then ;) |
| 05:07.36 | warchest | typically [] is kernel processes anyhow.. it didnt look much like a daemon |
| 05:07.43 | wrs | warchest: obviously, that's why I am here... ;-) |
| 05:07.45 | jair_11 | stew, ok then I will be running putty for both Linux and windows |
| 05:07.48 | warchest | dont use init.d, manually start the daemon |
| 05:07.52 | eeEE | what is the best way to upgrade from php 4.1.2 to 4.3.3 or > ? |
| 05:07.54 | warchest | /path/to/dictd -args |
| 05:07.56 | jair_11 | stew, to connect to the server on Linux |
| 05:07.58 | stew | jair_11: why would you run putty ohn lihnux |
| 05:08.04 | stew | err linux |
| 05:08.09 | warchest | i run mirc on linux :( |
| 05:08.19 | eeEE | i'm confused with stable, testing, woody, sarge... esh. |
| 05:08.23 | jair_11 | stew, ok just on windows on linux I can just use the konsole terminal right>? |
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| 05:08.30 | warchest | eeEE: www.debian.org has that clearly spelled out |
| 05:08.38 | jair_11 | warchest, not even me, I run xchat |
| 05:08.40 | jair_11 | hahaha |
| 05:08.46 | warchest | i love mirc :) |
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| 05:09.03 | warchest | except khaled went overboard now.. he's allowing you to associate pictures with nicks.. that is just insane |
| 05:09.09 | warchest | too much overhead for a text-based protocol |
| 05:09.13 | stew | jair_11: konsole terminal? no you would use ssh, i would guess |
| 05:09.30 | warchest | stew: but where would you use ssh.. a konsole terminal for the kde users :) |
| 05:09.40 | kuntu | khaled is an irc client ? |
| 05:09.45 | warchest | no |
| 05:09.49 | warchest | khaled wrote mirc |
| 05:10.11 | jair_11 | stew, ok now the part I am little confuse is doing the tunneling so the people do the connection, through the ssh and the tunneling will allow make a tightVNC client connection to the VNC server on linux but will be secure, encrypted and local. |
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| 05:10.14 | kuntu | there pics in mirc now ? |
| 05:10.23 | warchest | kuntu: there will be soon |
| 05:10.24 | stew | jair_11: afaik tighvnc uses inetd so you can use hosts.deny hosts.allow for access only to localhost |
| 05:10.28 | jair_11 | stew, yes ssh on the terminal |
| 05:10.33 | kuntu | omg |
| 05:10.33 | wrs | warchest: dictd doesn't give any msgs. A "/usr/sbin/dictd start && ps ax | grep dict; sleep 5; ps ax | grep dict" shows that it is there, for a moment, after start but gone after the 5 secs delay. ... It would be of much help if it would output anything at all... Wait, i redo a man dictd... |
| 05:10.54 | simonrvn | strace -F -f it |
| 05:10.56 | stew | jair_11: man ssh, look at -R |
| 05:10.56 | jair_11 | ohh perfect that will be on the server |
| 05:11.02 | warchest | yeah you have to strace it wrs |
| 05:11.07 | warchest | something is causing it to bomb |
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| 05:11.40 | simonrvn | -o file if you want to save the log of the op., and look at it all |
| 05:12.00 | wrs | warchest: er, what is "to strace"? |
| 05:12.01 | emullen | hi some one knows where i can download Debian? |
| 05:12.04 | emullen | newesy version |
| 05:12.08 | emullen | newest |
| 05:12.15 | stew | emullen: for server or desktop? |
| 05:12.19 | simonrvn | take a wild guess where |
| 05:12.20 | emullen | dekstop |
| 05:12.22 | stew | !d-i emullen |
| 05:12.23 | dpkg | emullen, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 05:12.24 | emullen | desk |
| 05:12.34 | warchest | wrs: its a binary "strace -F -f /path/to/dictd -args" |
| 05:12.38 | emullen | yesi did |
| 05:12.39 | warchest | it'll show you system calls |
| 05:12.56 | warchest | but you'll probably want to > /tmp/outfile 2>&1 |
| 05:12.56 | emullen | and then i get to a site wit 10000 files on it do i need all the files? |
| 05:13.01 | jair_11 | stew, yes got the info -r will specify the port and the host. |
| 05:13.06 | kuntu | you dont use sarge for servers ? |
| 05:13.10 | warchest | kuntu: i use sid |
| 05:13.11 | stew | emullen: and there also there are some installation instructions, follow those |
| 05:13.21 | emullen | k |
| 05:13.24 | stew | jair_11: no |
| 05:13.29 | streuner | simonrvn: fartfish |
| 05:13.30 | stew | jair_11: err |
| 05:13.34 | stew | kuntu: no |
| 05:13.37 | simonrvn | streuner: fishfart |
| 05:13.43 | jair_11 | stew, the connection is forwarded |
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| 05:13.48 | stew | jair_11: yes |
| 05:13.56 | jair_11 | stew, is to forward the connection |
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| 05:14.02 | jair_11 | stew, cool nice |
| 05:14.09 | jair_11 | I will ahve to do that then? |
| 05:14.10 | omnistegan | is there a download accelorator like program for debian? |
| 05:14.21 | jair_11 | stew, to make it looks like is a local connection |
| 05:14.22 | warchest | omnistegan: yeah its called downloading compressed files |
| 05:14.30 | wrs | warchest: fine.. that makes a lot ouf output. let's see... what it outputs... |
| 05:14.32 | stew | jair_11: -R will forward the remote port that vnc is listening on (5901 maybe) to the localhost |
| 05:14.42 | omnistegan | warchest, now seriously |
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| 05:14.45 | warchest | wrs: yes now the fun part is figuring out where it bombs. usually towards the end |
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| 05:14.48 | warchest | omnistegan: i'm serious! |
| 05:14.58 | warchest | those download accelerator programs are bogus |
| 05:15.16 | warchest | to accelerate a download requires compression.. compression requires resources to decompress.its a trade off |
| 05:15.22 | stew | omnistegan: be more specific, where are you downloading from, what are you downloading? |
| 05:15.29 | warchest | netzero.com :) |
| 05:15.32 | omnistegan | warchest, I have a large file i have to download, it is compressed, I would like it faster |
| 05:15.43 | maher | omnistegan: wouldn't we all |
| 05:15.44 | warchest | well.. buy a faster internet line.. theres not much you can do |
| 05:15.45 | jair_11 | yes because the 5901 is normally in the Linux server |
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| 05:15.50 | omnistegan | Like DAP for windows |
| 05:15.52 | warchest | tar.gz2 or gzip -9 that mother and start downloading it |
| 05:15.55 | jair_11 | 5900 for the windows server right |
| 05:15.59 | warchest | er bz2 |
| 05:16.08 | jair_11 | stew, I will have to practice that very good |
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| 05:16.31 | emullen | ok |
| 05:16.38 | stew | omnistegan: if the file is optimally compressed before you download it there is nothing you can do to compress it further |
| 05:16.49 | bluefox83 | it sickens me that people still use windows =( |
| 05:16.56 | simonrvn | download accelerators do not accelerate anything except for the admin's temper |
| 05:17.01 | warchest | stew: i've seen netzero's commercials.. that hot lady can do it somehow! :( |
| 05:17.02 | bluefox83 | lol |
| 05:17.08 | kuntu | i love windows |
| 05:17.09 | warchest | i only use windows for a desktop |
| 05:17.11 | eeEE | warchest: i understand what 'stable' and 'testing' are, i'm wondering is there are any particular pitfalls, notes or suggestions for using > stable versions of php4 on a stable box. |
| 05:17.13 | warchest | i'll never use linux as a desktop |
| 05:17.20 | emullen | other question i got debian but it start up with Kde i want it start up with shell so i can manualy start X how do i do that? |
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| 05:17.38 | maher | emullen: ask dpkg about nodm |
| 05:17.38 | simonrvn | they open multiple connections to the httpd in question and use up resources for nothing. there is no compression going on whatsoever. whomever told you that is full of shit |
| 05:17.40 | warchest | eeEE: stable is old as dirt.. sarge is stable enough to run in production imho.. now "sid" or unstable breaks alllll the time |
| 05:17.52 | stew | eeEE: what version of debian are you currehntly using? |
| 05:18.02 | omnistegan | Download accelerators capitalize on the idea of resumable downloads by downloading multiple ranges at the same time, hoping against hope that this will somehow make things go faster. Once in a blue moon, when the site that the file is being downloaded from is artificially capping download speeds, a download accelerator will actually work. It will work by bypassing limits which were probably put in place for a very good reason, bu |
| 05:18.02 | omnistegan | t it'll work. |
| 05:18.04 | warchest | simonrvn: you need to watch more tv then ;\ |
| 05:18.19 | stew | eeEE: is the server goung to be internet facing? |
| 05:18.25 | simonrvn | warchest: and you sir/madam, are too gullible |
| 05:18.27 | emullen | and where can i reach dpkg? |
| 05:18.33 | jair_11 | stew, so the people will be able to connect to their computers where will be a tight vnc server running on the windows client machine. |
| 05:18.33 | maher | omnistegan: so it will definitely not work in your case |
| 05:18.35 | warchest | simonrvn: heh |
| 05:18.40 | stew | warchest: do not recommend sarge for people running internet facing servers |
| 05:18.42 | jair_11 | stew, this will be hide |
| 05:18.53 | jair_11 | stew, in some computers |
| 05:18.56 | kuntu | dl multiple threads can circunvent server dl limits |
| 05:18.57 | Overand | man |
| 05:18.57 | warchest | stew: you dont think so ? |
| 05:18.57 | streuner | emullen: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 05:19.00 | Overand | serial console stuff is a PITA |
| 05:19.01 | omnistegan | maher, yes it will, last time i downloaded this file it worked |
| 05:19.07 | kuntu | in some cases |
| 05:19.08 | omnistegan | but that was a long time ago under windows |
| 05:19.16 | warchest | Overand: work on solaris boxes.. you'll come to love minicom |
| 05:19.16 | stew | warchest: uhh, no way, sarge doesn't get security updates |
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| 05:19.18 | axelxx | what is GLIB? |
| 05:19.21 | maher | omnistegan: only if you are not exausting your incoming bw |
| 05:19.32 | bluefox83 | graphics library >.> |
| 05:19.33 | streuner | axelxx: /msg dpkg info libc6 |
| 05:19.42 | omnistegan | maher, just tell me if there is a linux program like that or not |
| 05:19.46 | maher | omnistegan: or the servers cap |
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| 05:19.49 | kuntu | but better yet is the ability to use several mirrors at once using one thread for each |
| 05:19.49 | eeEE | stew: i'm running stable, it is an internet-attached box. |
| 05:19.51 | maher | omnistegan: i have no idea |
| 05:20.02 | axelxx | how do i know my version? |
| 05:20.08 | Overand | warchest: i'm using a real serial terminal here, and it's hellish to get all apps to work right |
| 05:20.13 | bluefox83 | uname -r |
| 05:20.15 | streuner | axelxx: i don't |
| 05:20.23 | streuner | axelxx: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 05:20.26 | jair_11 | stew, I will isntall my VNC server then |
| 05:20.27 | eeEE | i just found www.backports.org, excellent |
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| 05:20.32 | Overand | some ncurses apps seem to think i can't display color, others think i can. and if i run stuff inside screen, of course EVERYTHING works fine |
| 05:20.33 | mattie_ | I am trying to do the kernel compile with make-kpkg however I keep getting the same error messagedpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-2.6.11 not in control info" " |
| 05:20.34 | stew | eeEE: then stick with woody for now and if you really need a newer version of php look to get it from backports.org or from dotdeb.org; /msg dpkg backport ; /msg dpkg dotdeb |
| 05:20.39 | mattie_ | any ideas as to what this is ? |
| 05:20.40 | kuntu | omnistegan, try bitorrent |
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| 05:20.54 | mattie_ | has anyone else done a kernel build from source ? |
| 05:21.04 | emullen | but i dont want to remove X or kde |
| 05:21.05 | eeEE | stew: thanks, guess i beat you to it |
| 05:21.11 | Overand | mattie_: lots of us have. use the packages instead |
| 05:21.15 | streuner | mattie_ what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
| 05:21.22 | Overand | (Unless you have a REALLY good reason to roll your own) |
| 05:21.26 | streuner | mattie_ (only the version) |
| 05:21.41 | kuntu | isnt debian using bitorrent ? |
| 05:21.43 | eeEE | my stable machines have been going and going, really nice. |
| 05:21.51 | stew | eeEE: until sargee starts getting security updates thats probably the wiser way to go, sarge should hopefully start getting security updates soon though |
| 05:21.55 | bluefox83 | getting the debian packages is way easier, and you can still compile against them so long as you also download the source and kernel tree and headers.. |
| 05:21.59 | Overand | kuntu: for distribution? i think jigdo is more 'official' |
| 05:22.04 | streuner | kuntu: www.debian.org |
| 05:22.11 | maher | kuntu: for what? |
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| 05:22.25 | kuntu | distribution |
| 05:22.33 | jair_11 | stew, have you ever use the tight vnc server? |
| 05:22.37 | stew | jair_11: no |
| 05:22.44 | kuntu | it would be fun to have a BTapt too |
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| 05:22.45 | kuntu | hehe |
| 05:22.49 | warchest | stew: wtf.. sarge gets security updates? |
| 05:22.53 | jair_11 | bormally their configuration is on a file like vsftpd and sshd-config? |
| 05:22.55 | stew | warchest: no it doesn't |
| 05:22.57 | warchest | on the net install it asks you about it |
| 05:22.57 | streuner | mattie_ ok, so you have sarge installed, why not just use the 2.6.8 kernel in sarge? |
| 05:22.58 | maher | kuntu: feel free to set up a bt feed if youl ike |
| 05:23.00 | warchest | i SWEAR it does? |
| 05:23.10 | simonrvn | no it does not |
| 05:23.10 | stew | warchest: doesn't mean there is anything there |
| 05:23.12 | jair_11 | stew, but normally their configuration is on a file like vsftpd and sshd-config? |
| 05:23.25 | simonrvn | it only gets a fresh Release file |
| 05:23.30 | warchest | hmmm |
| 05:23.32 | stew | warchest: ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/testing/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages |
| 05:23.40 | matsuo | Can someone offer help with alsaconf? |
| 05:23.40 | stew | warchest: that is a list of the security updates so far |
| 05:23.42 | warchest | oh well, i guess i wasnt paranoid in setting up 864 iptables rules then |
| 05:23.56 | streuner | matsuo: just ask |
| 05:24.07 | kuntu | i dont know how to chroot jail BT |
| 05:24.21 | axelxx | streuner i mean GLIBC! |
| 05:24.26 | matsuo | alsaconf found two cards, atiixp and legacy probe, I'm guessing I'm suppose to use atiixp? |
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| 05:24.58 | bluefox83 | matsuo, if that's your sound card..yes |
| 05:25.04 | stew | jair_11: i don't understand you question |
| 05:25.09 | stew | your* |
| 05:25.30 | mattie_ | understood (streuner) |
| 05:25.31 | matsuo | I believe it is, however every time KDE boots it explains that it can't open the sound server because the device does not exsist. |
| 05:25.41 | streuner | mattie_ /msg dpkg kp |
| 05:25.54 | bluefox83 | you might try lspci |
| 05:26.06 | emullen | gone try now hope i did it right :P |
| 05:26.09 | emullen | brb |
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| 05:26.17 | bluefox83 | look for either the legacy or the atiixp thing.. |
| 05:26.27 | mattie_ | thanks streuner, that was the ptr I was looking for |
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| 05:26.46 | matsuo | bluefox83: I see the atiixp one |
| 05:26.52 | bluefox83 | if it's the atiixp, and kde still doesn't detect it..you need to make sure kde is set correctly 9i personally do not use kde) |
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| 05:27.07 | bluefox83 | s/9/( |
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| 05:27.13 | kuntu | why dont you use kde ? |
| 05:27.28 | bluefox83 | cus i prefer icewm :) |
| 05:27.36 | axelxx | how do i upgrade my GLIBC to 2.3?? |
| 05:27.40 | bluefox83 | kde == way too much useless eyecandy |
| 05:27.49 | stew | axelxx: upgrade to sarge. why do you ask? |
| 05:27.49 | kuntu | whats so good about it ? |
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| 05:28.04 | bluefox83 | icewm? it's small and does everything i want it to |
| 05:28.05 | jair_11 | stew, I get the installation and the vnc.conf I think is the file where I will do my customization |
| 05:28.11 | matsuo | The message I'm getting as a non-privilaged user is 'device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Permission denied)' but as root it says device does not exsist. |
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| 05:28.29 | TheMoebius | hey guys, why can't I find the programming IDE, eclipse anywhere in apt? |
| 05:28.53 | bluefox83 | i dunno..X.x |
| 05:28.55 | warchest | TheMoebius: what version of debian ? |
| 05:28.57 | maher | TheMoebius: its in unstable |
| 05:28.58 | jair_11 | stew, now I was looking for the IP address I should use for the VNC locally. and also I am looking for an option that tells me that will be listenning only inside the network |
| 05:29.06 | TheMoebius | warchest: sarge |
| 05:29.31 | TheMoebius | maher: what do I have to do to get it? |
| 05:29.39 | maher | TheMoebius: are you on stable |
| 05:29.50 | bluefox83 | jair_11, probably 172.1.0.0, or whatever the machine's local ip is |
| 05:30.04 | TheMoebius | maher: ummm all I know is I'm on sarge heh. Sorry I'm a bit of a debian newbie |
| 05:30.06 | stew | jair_11: ip address for localhost is 127.0.0.0 |
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| 05:30.20 | matsuo | I thought localhost was 127.0.0.1 |
| 05:30.20 | warchest | cat /etc/apt/sources.list|sed 's/testing/unstable/g' > /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade && apt-cache search eclipse |
| 05:30.21 | axelxx | stew: i need new ver of GLIBC - my wine doesn't start without it |
| 05:30.32 | warchest | matsuo: thats your loopback address |
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| 05:30.33 | jair_11 | bluefox83, yes but I am looking for that file to change it and add the real IP or see if the out packages or connections are allowed. |
| 05:30.36 | stew | jair_11: if you want to prevent outside ips from connecting, man hosts.deny |
| 05:30.45 | matsuo | warchest: What's the difference? |
| 05:30.50 | jair_11 | stew, on the terminal |
| 05:30.51 | jair_11 | ok |
| 05:30.59 | stew | jair_11: what terminal? |
| 05:31.03 | maher | TheMoebius: is it in non-free? |
| 05:31.07 | stew | axelxx: and this version of wine is not one installed via apt-get? |
| 05:31.19 | stew | axelxx: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 05:31.27 | jair_11 | stew, konsole? terminal, xterm, bash |
| 05:31.37 | wrs_ | warchest: sad, the dirty old tricks i was used to under widows ten years ago, still work under debian: deinstall, reinstall - all works fine. Well, okay, the latter doesn't apply for winows always... ;-) |
| 05:31.59 | axelxx | yes |
| 05:32.02 | stew | jair_11: i must have missed part of your question, can you repeat it? |
| 05:32.08 | TheMoebius | maher: sources.list has testing main stuff in it. Yeah, It's free. I used the sarge-netinstall CD |
| 05:32.22 | axelxx | stew what do you mean? |
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| 05:32.35 | PumpkinPie | how do I add a password to the adduser line? Ive read man adduser and It says nothing |
| 05:32.39 | maher | TheMoebius: do you have non-free in your sources.list |
| 05:32.49 | jm_ | PumpkinPie: man useradd |
| 05:32.56 | TheMoebius | maher: I don't see anything that says non-free |
| 05:33.04 | PumpkinPie | jm: how odd :/ |
| 05:33.04 | maher | TheMoebius: add it |
| 05:33.14 | jm_ | PumpkinPie: alternatively, use adduser + chpasswd or similar |
| 05:33.27 | stew | axelxx: why aren't you using wine that is packaged with debian? |
| 05:33.27 | jair_11 | stew, I am looking for the file or config file on the vncserver to disable or enable ip addresses hosts? etc.. |
| 05:33.30 | matsuo | Umm... someone want to explain to me why /dev/cdrom suddenly doesn't exsist? |
| 05:33.31 | PumpkinPie | jm: why the useradd and adduser ? |
| 05:33.39 | jm_ | PumpkinPie: they're different beasts |
| 05:33.41 | stew | jair_11: man hosts.deny, man hosts.allow |
| 05:33.55 | cafuego | PumpkinPie: One is an interactive frontend that suer the other. |
| 05:34.00 | stew | axelxx: what version of debian are you currently running? |
| 05:34.10 | axelxx | stew: woody |
| 05:34.11 | TheMoebius | maher: OK, so can you give me an example of what the line should look like? deb http://whatever testing main non-free? |
| 05:34.24 | maher | TheMoebius: yes - like that |
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| 05:34.26 | stew | axelxx: type this into your irc client /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 05:34.33 | bluefox83 | is there a config app for iptables that can whip up a quick config file? |
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| 05:34.47 | matsuo | Umm... someone want to explain to me why /dev/cdrom suddenly doesn't exsist? |
| 05:34.56 | bluefox83 | i'm not really that savvy as to how to configure iptables just yet =( |
| 05:35.14 | bluefox83 | matsuo, you probably unmounted it |
| 05:35.30 | matsuo | Bluefox83: No.. the device itself doesn't exsist |
| 05:35.35 | jair_11 | stew, this is what I get indiana:/etc# man host.deny |
| 05:35.36 | jair_11 | No manual entry for host.deny |
| 05:35.36 | jair_11 | indiana:/etc# |
| 05:35.39 | bluefox83 | oh, MAKEDEV cdrom |
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| 05:35.46 | matsuo | Ramoth:/home/matsuo# mount /dev/cdrom |
| 05:35.47 | matsuo | mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist |
| 05:35.50 | simonrvn | hosts.deny |
| 05:35.52 | stew | 01:33 < stew> jair_11: man hosts.deny, man hosts.allow |
| 05:35.59 | jair_11 | I guess because I did a minimal install usinfg the netinst of sarge |
| 05:36.09 | matsuo | Someone want to tell me how to get my cdrom drive back? |
| 05:36.19 | bluefox83 | matsuo, i just did! |
| 05:36.27 | bluefox83 | MAKEDEV cdrom |
| 05:36.35 | matsuo | ahh, sorry, I missed that |
| 05:36.41 | axelxx | stew: it will upgrade the whole Linux?? |
| 05:36.42 | stew | matsuo: are you running udev? dpkg -l udev |
| 05:36.47 | stew | axelxx: yes |
| 05:36.53 | stew | axelxx: every package |
| 05:36.58 | matsuo | stew: No.. |
| 05:37.01 | TheMoebius | maher: OK, I added non-free and updated, but I still don't see eclipse |
| 05:37.06 | matsuo | Bluefox83: makedev doesn't exsist |
| 05:37.17 | axelxx | stew: oh no... this is no good |
| 05:37.18 | wrs_ | bluefox83: what about a firewall config tool to create an iptables file? |
| 05:37.18 | stew | axelxx: if you want to upgrade glibc you have to upgrade everything |
| 05:37.29 | stew | axelxx: no choice |
| 05:37.45 | bluefox83 | wrs_, you wouldn't happen to know of one that could spit otu a quick config file would you? |
| 05:37.51 | bluefox83 | *out |
| 05:38.10 | maher | TheMoebius: maybe it sonly in unstable |
| 05:38.20 | wrs_ | bluefox83: no, but I'm pretty sure, the gui tool i use works fine :-) |
| 05:38.28 | bluefox83 | matsuo, i dunno dude, i'm sure there's a package in apt to get that .. |
| 05:38.32 | axelxx | stew: i understand |
| 05:38.39 | bluefox83 | wrs_, what tool? |
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| 05:38.58 | stew | axelxx: apt-cache show libc6 -> "Contains the standard libraries that are used by nearly all programs on the system..." |
| 05:39.08 | axelxx | stew: but upgrading webserver to sarge from ssh is realy risky |
| 05:39.10 | wrs_ | bluefox83: Well, I use guarddog. And, currently reading something about bastille. URL .. wait a moment |
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| 05:39.34 | TheMoebius | maher: adding unstable after non-free doesn't seem to work. How do I get things that are in unstable? |
| 05:39.41 | stew | axelxx: why would you need to run wine on a webserver? |
| 05:39.51 | stew | axelxx: nm, i don't really want to know |
| 05:39.52 | maher | TheMoebius: unstable is a different distro |
| 05:39.58 | TheMoebius | oh |
| 05:40.06 | maher | TheMoebius: check backports.org or backport it youreself |
| 05:40.11 | wrs_ | bluefox83: about bastille: http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/04/19/1256244.shtml?tid=78&tid=2&tid=79 |
| 05:40.15 | stew | TheMoebius: /msg dpkg iyhtays |
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| 05:40.31 | axelxx | stew ;) |
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| 05:40.44 | takatumi | wrs_: try apt-cache search bastille as well. |
| 05:41.22 | wrs_ | takatumi: I just installed it... It was a hint for bluefox83.. |
| 05:41.49 | TheMoebius | maher: heh, eclipse isn't on backports.org either |
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| 05:42.21 | maher | TheMoebius: apt-get source - dpkg-buildpackage |
| 05:43.08 | stew | TheMoebius: just install it to /usr/local/ or /opt/ for now |
| 05:43.28 | wrs_ | takatumi: ever used guarddog? |
| 05:43.39 | stew | TheMoebius: and if you haven't already: /msg dpkg install java |
| 05:43.47 | takatumi | wrs_: no, firehol. |
| 05:44.20 | wrs_ | takatumi: do you know which ports i have to keep open to mount a remote device using nfs? |
| 05:44.53 | wrs_ | takatumi: (that's currently my last issue with guarddog) |
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| 05:45.39 | sobersabre | guys,... programming with sockets quesiton. |
| 05:45.49 | bob2 | #c |
| 05:45.58 | sobersabre | ok, bob2 |
| 05:46.00 | jm_ | how do you know he's not using them in say perl? :) |
| 05:46.06 | takatumi | wrs_: haven't tried nfs, dunno. |
| 05:46.46 | buu | jm_: bob2 is magical! |
| 05:46.58 | TheMoebius | bah. I give up. Why do they have to make everything so hard. it shouldn't take 3 hours to install one bloody program |
| 05:47.00 | wrs_ | takatumi: well, thanks.. I just googled for it but... well, it's not that bad to switch the wall down for the time i access local nfs drives ... |
| 05:47.45 | jair_11 | anyone here has been use before VNC server? |
| 05:47.47 | jair_11 | on Linux |
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| 05:48.27 | jair_11 | I already configure my VNC server but I am trying to connect to it from a windows pc using a vnc viewer client for windows (obviosly) |
| 05:48.28 | sobersabre | jair_11, i have... it works... do you have any troubles with it ? |
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| 05:48.43 | jair_11 | sobersabre, this is the thing |
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| 05:49.39 | jair_11 | sobersabre, I installed right now I have everything in defautl but I do not know where to customize the ip address the port, weather will be acceptin connections from internal clients only. |
| 05:50.35 | jair_11 | sobersabre, where I can make it listen the local network? |
| 05:50.48 | jair_11 | the vnc server is running on a debian Linux |
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| 05:51.10 | jair_11 | sobersabre, and I am trying to connect from a windows machine laptop next to me. |
| 05:51.28 | sobersabre | jair_11, i had no need to play with vnc ports etc. since it is not running all the time. user runs it after ssh-ing, and then they must kill the vnc server |
| 05:51.50 | jair_11 | sobersabre, ok how I can do that |
| 05:51.55 | sobersabre | but anyways, have you already got connected ? |
| 05:51.59 | jair_11 | I just want to be able of test it |
| 05:52.00 | kuntu | any one has a vnc server i can connect to ? |
| 05:52.05 | jair_11 | nope yet |
| 05:52.14 | takatumi | wrs_: "the standard NFS port number 2049 is used instead." that's from nfs(5) man page. |
| 05:52.21 | jair_11 | I am trying typing the ip address of the Linux that have the vncserver |
| 05:52.23 | sobersabre | kuntu, :) |
| 05:52.42 | sobersabre | connect to mine, username root, password 123 |
| 05:52.46 | sobersabre | :))) |
| 05:52.50 | edward_ | hi... who can help me to graph traffic on a interface with traffic load op to 600Mbit's |
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| 05:53.16 | simonrvn | use rrdtool and mrtg. works nice |
| 05:53.21 | warchest | dont think mrtg can handle that ed? |
| 05:53.32 | warchest | i heard cacti is nice but i beg to differ on that one |
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| 05:53.33 | CyzarX | if i installed cedega on my debian, can normal windows applications run on cedega other than game? |
| 05:53.33 | simonrvn | oh, you think? |
| 05:53.43 | warchest | nah i think it will |
| 05:53.47 | simonrvn | i've tried cacti, too much overhead for what it does |
| 05:53.48 | jair_11 | sobersabre, are ypu joking with me or you will help me out with this? |
| 05:53.49 | kuntu | sobersabre you should be proud to have me in your vnc |
| 05:53.50 | warchest | mrtg just isnt scaleable |
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| 05:53.59 | warchest | mrtg is nice for a few boxes but by no means a network |
| 05:54.23 | simonrvn | i use mrtg to make the graphs, and use the rrdtool to make the .rrd |
| 05:54.23 | takatumi | what about cricket? |
| 05:54.23 | edward_ | simonrvn, well..that's the problem.. I do use mrtg with rrd and still.. if Iit goes over the 150Mbit/s it not making a good graph |
| 05:54.24 | warchest | those snmp queries drive my loads clean up to .6 every 5 minutes when it polls |
| 05:54.29 | simonrvn | i see |
| 05:54.46 | warchest | edward_: cant you specify the dimensions of the png it makes ? |
| 05:55.25 | edward_ | warchest, well. it's not the creation of the graph.. it that RX bytes:3445311353 (3.2 GiB) TX bytes:3359908926 (3.1 GiB) is roling over to fast.. |
| 05:55.36 | simonrvn | ah |
| 05:55.55 | edward_ | the counter are rolling over faster then mrtg can poll the data.. even if I let mrtg poll every munute |
| 05:55.58 | sobersabre | kuntu, i am proud. pride is something i cannot live without. i feel it constantly. i am proud. |
| 05:56.21 | warchest | wow edward that is some serious traffic |
| 05:56.24 | edward_ | useing 64bit counters is a way I have bin reading only I can't get that to work |
| 05:56.31 | simonrvn | no kidding :) |
| 05:56.32 | sobersabre | jair_11, i was talking to u seriously until now. don't mix my conversations with other people. |
| 05:56.49 | edward_ | warchest, wel.. it's for usenet platform so.. ;) |
| 05:56.55 | warchest | i think your solution (since i know no others) is to throttle bittorrent on your network ;p |
| 05:56.59 | simonrvn | ha! |
| 05:57.09 | edward_ | :) |
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| 05:58.09 | sobersabre | jair_11, so ... did u set password for the vnc of your user ? |
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| 06:01.39 | pepsi__ | to install X window (xfree86) system locally I need some more package than xserver-xfree86 right? |
| 06:01.54 | stew | pepsi__: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 06:01.59 | pepsi__ | thx |
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| 06:03.56 | FlopSter|CT | Ok..here's the deal..im not a bot im a guy joining channels and letting yall know about a service that pays you to do like google/msn searches...ya can also get tons of people signed up benieth you to make referral money as well...thats what im doing...since im poor and trying to find a way to make some money to support my family while im going back to college...so if you would plz click and help me out: http://tinyurl.com/chdf7 Thankya ahead of time! |
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| 06:04.26 | emullen | hi can some one help me i installed debian with linux live cd it works fine but it start as knoppix how can i disble it an let it start with debian |
| 06:04.31 | cheal | !setup x |
| 06:04.31 | dpkg | hmm... set up x is To set up X in woody, sarge or sid, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86" (or x-window-system-core instead of xserver-xfree86 if you don't have it yet) Sometimes "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" works. dpkg-reconfigure will keep your old values as defaults each time you run it. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
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| 06:04.42 | stew | thanks don |
| 06:04.49 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 06:04.56 | simonrvn | ffs, pyramid scheme... |
| 06:05.01 | emullen | is it pos to remove the knoppix ? |
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| 06:05.22 | furrywolf | emullen: pos? |
| 06:05.29 | emullen | posble |
| 06:05.37 | furrywolf | yep |
| 06:05.40 | emullen | i meanb so i only got debian |
| 06:05.47 | emullen | realy |
| 06:05.50 | cheal | that factoid talks about a frame buffer question, but I don't see it. can someone figure why? otherwise when does it appear normally? |
| 06:05.54 | emullen | can you help me ? |
| 06:05.56 | emullen | then :D |
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| 06:06.05 | furrywolf | nope. need to bbl. |
| 06:06.10 | emullen | bbl? |
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| 06:06.30 | furrywolf | need sleep. :) |
| 06:06.33 | emullen | ok |
| 06:06.34 | emullen | :) |
| 06:06.37 | emullen | n8 |
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| 06:06.40 | irreverentrevere | I recently attached an external firewire dvdrw, it is not showing up as a /dev/sdx device, however k3b can see it... what /dev/should i check for it? |
| 06:06.45 | cheal | FlopSter is quite hilarious |
| 06:07.46 | jair_11 | I was looking for the configuration file but I do not see the ip options to configure ports? etc? |
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| 06:07.57 | jair_11 | I install tightvnc server and is running right now |
| 06:07.59 | emullen | jair: for what? |
| 06:08.11 | jair_11 | I am trying to connect to a tightvnc server and I don't know what is the problem it is not connecting |
| 06:08.26 | emullen | ic |
| 06:08.41 | jair_11 | emullen, because I want to see how I can control the Linux server from the vnc client on the windows xp laptop |
| 06:09.12 | emullen | hm ok never did that |
| 06:09.43 | emullen | what config do i need to edit so it wont load knoppix? |
| 06:10.04 | d03boy | the vsync crap didnt work :\ |
| 06:10.18 | d03boy | and for some reason im getting 100fps even though my monitor only refreshes at 60fps? |
| 06:10.28 | d03boy | im thinking I need to fix someting xO |
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| 06:11.29 | emullen | is it pos to adjust my startup config so it wont load knoppix but load debian instead? |
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| 06:12.01 | ledestin | I upgraded to 2.6.8, now mouse doesn't work in X. Nothing in X logs. Any ideas? |
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| 06:12.35 | NeoBREED | hi, how do I make my Xterm transparent like the menu? |
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| 06:12.39 | NeoBREED | in fluxbox |
| 06:12.51 | ledestin | it's an optical mouse, so I can deduce the drivers are ok since the light is on. |
| 06:12.54 | deadcat | NeoBREED: xterm dont. use aterm |
| 06:13.01 | bluefox83 | what package provides /etc/init.d/syslog? |
| 06:13.11 | stouset | ksyslogk |
| 06:13.13 | stouset | ksyslogd |
| 06:13.13 | simonrvn | dpks -S foo |
| 06:13.21 | simonrvn | sysklogd |
| 06:13.22 | NeoBREED | deadcat, what's the different between xterm and aterm? |
| 06:13.24 | stouset | syslog-ng is probably a better logger |
| 06:13.30 | deadcat | NeoBREED: xterm is better |
| 06:13.33 | stouset | argh, simonrvn: has it; sysklogd |
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| 06:13.54 | NeoBREED | deadcat, I only have xterm anyway |
| 06:13.58 | deadcat | (= |
| 06:14.19 | bluefox83 | how about /etc/logrotate.d/syslog? |
| 06:14.21 | NeoBREED | deadcat, but I asked about the transparency setting |
| 06:14.31 | simonrvn | bluefox83: dpkg -S /etc/logrotate.d/syslog |
| 06:14.34 | deadcat | bluefox83: dpkg -L ksyslogd |
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| 06:14.43 | simonrvn | or dlocate /etc/logrotate.d/syslog |
| 06:14.44 | jm_ | bluefox83: /msg dpkg search |
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| 06:14.49 | deadcat | NeoBREED: then use aterm. xterm dont do it. |
| 06:14.50 | NeoBREED | for gkrellm where do I find the themes folder... it seems there isn't one.... so where should I create that themes directory |
| 06:15.01 | NeoBREED | oh xterm doesn't go transparent? |
| 06:15.03 | NeoBREED | ah I see |
| 06:15.04 | deadcat | NeoBREED: .gkrellm2 |
| 06:15.07 | NeoBREED | that's the issue |
| 06:15.12 | NeoBREED | .gkrellm2 |
| 06:15.15 | NeoBREED | where's that? |
| 06:15.21 | NeoBREED | in the ~/ ? |
| 06:15.22 | deadcat | ~/ |
| 06:15.23 | apt | ~/ is your home dir silly!, or root, of all Unix |
| 06:15.32 | NeoBREED | home |
| 06:15.41 | NeoBREED | ? |
| 06:15.41 | bluefox83 | well whatever it is, it's not in debian..so i don't think i have anything to worry about.. |
| 06:15.55 | deadcat | NeoBREED: ~/.gkrellm2/themes |
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| 06:16.01 | axelxx | why don't i see libx11-dev package? |
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| 06:16.15 | deadcat | axelxx: cus not installed |
| 06:16.16 | jm_ | because there is no such package in Debian |
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| 06:16.41 | jm_ | ohh there is, but is it really the one you want? |
| 06:17.12 | axelxx | deadcat is it avialable in stable packages? |
| 06:17.18 | emullen | any one knows what config i need to change so it wont load knoppix but debian isntead? |
| 06:17.23 | jm_ | axelxx: no, it's only in Sarge and newer |
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| 06:17.30 | deadcat | axelxx: apt-cache search |
| 06:17.33 | emullen | or how can i idasble kda on startup? |
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| 06:17.50 | deadcat | emullen: why you have knoppix? |
| 06:17.56 | emullen | i got debian |
| 06:18.08 | emullen | but i installed with knoppix cd |
| 06:18.10 | deadcat | emullen: update your grub or edit it. |
| 06:18.19 | emullen | yes but what do i need to edit? |
| 06:18.21 | deadcat | emullen: that wouldnt be debian then. |
| 06:18.27 | cheal | !d-i emullen |
| 06:18.27 | dpkg | emullen, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 06:18.29 | emullen | yes it debian |
| 06:18.34 | emullen | with a knoppix part ~ |
| 06:18.35 | stew | emullen: #knoppix |
| 06:18.40 | emullen | o |
| 06:18.41 | emullen | no |
| 06:18.42 | emullen | nvm |
| 06:18.50 | emullen | its debian |
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| 06:18.54 | deadcat | emullen: thats why its called knoppix. not knoppix-debian |
| 06:18.58 | emullen | no |
| 06:19.01 | emullen | its debian |
| 06:19.01 | deadcat | yes |
| 06:19.04 | emullen | NO |
| 06:19.06 | deadcat | YES |
| 06:19.08 | stew | !knoppix emullen |
| 06:19.13 | emullen | are you noob? |
| 06:19.17 | stew | !notdeb knoppix |
| 06:19.17 | deadcat | is he stupid? |
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| 06:19.20 | cheal | !knoppixsmite emullen |
| 06:19.24 | emullen | you can install debian with knoppix CD |
| 06:19.29 | stew | emullen: wrong |
| 06:19.33 | emullen | hahahaha |
| 06:19.34 | emullen | thahaha |
| 06:19.36 | emullen | tyeah right |
| 06:19.36 | stew | !knoppix |
| 06:19.37 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix |
| 06:19.45 | emullen | download knoppix 3.7 |
| 06:19.48 | emullen | STD |
| 06:19.53 | emullen | and we will see how right |
| 06:19.54 | deadcat | STD is not even knoppix. |
| 06:20.01 | emullen | knoppix std live cd |
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| 06:20.09 | eXoDuS | hey, im having trouble setting up apache and php4 in debian, i installed all the packages and restarted apache, it seems everything is in there, but it keeps trying to download the php files instead of handling them |
| 06:20.17 | eXoDuS | i even added an addHandler php-script .php |
| 06:20.20 | cheal | @php |
| 06:20.23 | ravenbird | methinks php is not asp. Can't get php to work? Remember that php3 looks for the extension .php3 ! .php is for php4 To change this, edit the mime type in http.conf. Get php3-mysql if you want mysql support too, or oh, and make sure to uncomment the php module from http.conf !!, or for php4, make sure this line is in httpd.conf: LoadModule php4_module ... |
| 06:20.35 | irreverentrevere | how do i find what my external firewire drive is using? |
| 06:20.46 | eXoDuS | yeah, all that is ok |
| 06:20.49 | cheal | eXoDuS: you have libapache-mod-php4? |
| 06:20.50 | eXoDuS | php4module is loaded |
| 06:20.52 | eXoDuS | yes |
| 06:21.07 | deadcat | irreverentrevere: what hardware? |
| 06:21.07 | cheal | eXoDuS: did you try restarting your browser? |
| 06:21.08 | stew | eXoDuS: you need to add the addtype line, google for it or read docs in /usr/share/doc/php4 |
| 06:21.09 | eXoDuS | (i have this working fine on sarge btw, i don't see the diff with sid's conf though) |
| 06:21.22 | eXoDuS | stew: add type is in there |
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| 06:21.28 | eXoDuS | it's installed by phpmodule |
| 06:21.28 | irreverentrevere | deadcat firewire enclouser with a nec dvdrw in it |
| 06:21.34 | eXoDuS | and it's also in mime.types |
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| 06:21.49 | deadcat | irreverentrevere: lsmod|grep 1394 |
| 06:22.06 | deadcat | irreverentrevere: or simply dmesg|tail |
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| 06:22.39 | NeoBREED | deadcat, sorry to bother you. how would I make aterm transparent? |
| 06:22.42 | irreverentrevere | deadcat nothing... but the drive is seeable by k3b... dmesg|tail didnt do anything either |
| 06:22.48 | eXoDuS | it does the same if the extension is .php4 anyway |
| 06:22.50 | irreverentrevere | rather, show anything helpful |
| 06:22.54 | eXoDuS | any other tips guys? |
| 06:22.55 | deadcat | NeoBREED: aterm -tr -sh 40% |
| 06:23.01 | cheal | eXoDuS: did you try restarting your browser? |
| 06:23.05 | stew | eXoDuS: apt-get install php4 |
| 06:23.15 | Kizmet | can some one help me with my Intel Pro/2100 Wireless 3B NIC |
| 06:23.16 | eXoDuS | cheal: no, but i tried changing the file name and trying again, it's not a cache issue |
| 06:23.18 | deadcat | irreverentrevere: no clue then. |
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| 06:23.23 | eXoDuS | stew: that's in of course |
| 06:23.30 | deadcat | Kizmet: apt-cache search ipw2100 |
| 06:23.39 | Kizmet | i cant get it to work. |
| 06:23.42 | Kizmet | it sucks |
| 06:23.50 | deadcat | buy a prism card |
| 06:24.01 | Kizmet | its built in |
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| 06:24.12 | deadcat | if it sucks. buy another one |
| 06:24.23 | NeoBREED | deadcat, how do I make that permanent? |
| 06:24.25 | Kizmet | i guess. but i dont have money to wast like that. |
| 06:24.35 | Kizmet | s/wast/waste/ |
| 06:24.39 | jm_ | NeoBREED: via X resources |
| 06:24.44 | emullen | troble with wireless card? |
| 06:24.46 | deadcat | NeoBREED: you can create alias or .Xdefaults |
| 06:24.49 | Kizmet | yuh |
| 06:24.54 | emullen | what kinda? |
| 06:24.57 | cheal | !tell Kizmet about ipw2100 |
| 06:24.57 | irreverentrevere | deadcat meh... i just looked at the k3b settings.. it is /dev/scd0 |
| 06:25.03 | Kizmet | i cant get it to compile the module at all |
| 06:25.08 | deadcat | irreverentrevere: hehe |
| 06:25.13 | deadcat | Kizmet: bullshit |
| 06:25.14 | emullen | tryd with ndiswrapper? |
| 06:25.15 | NeoBREED | I see |
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| 06:25.23 | deadcat | emullen: it works without ndis |
| 06:25.23 | NeoBREED | thank you. I will research more into it |
| 06:25.25 | eXoDuS | any other ideas? |
| 06:25.29 | emullen | ok |
| 06:25.31 | deadcat | why you want to use ndis when it fucking works? |
| 06:25.48 | emullen | take it easy man |
| 06:25.50 | stew | eXoDuS: ask in #php |
| 06:26.02 | eXoDuS | stew: ok thanks |
| 06:26.13 | deadcat | !nvidia-oneliner |
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| 06:26.44 | emullen | how can i type privit? |
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| 06:26.55 | deadcat | Kizmet: did you use module-assistant to install the driver? |
| 06:26.58 | asdfg | which database package would you recommend? |
| 06:27.15 | dondelelcaro | asdfg: postgresql |
| 06:27.16 | deadcat | !poll |
| 06:27.17 | dpkg | You wanna poll me? You can't handle polling me! |
| 06:27.25 | Kizmet | deadcat, well. it wont compile. im pretty newb so no |
| 06:27.27 | asdfg | widely used? |
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| 06:27.39 | deadcat | Kizmet: then how come you said it didnt work? |
| 06:27.50 | Kizmet | because it wont compile. |
| 06:27.52 | deadcat | Kizmet: the driver works fine with the card. |
| 06:27.58 | Kizmet | i tryed going by the instructions |
| 06:28.00 | deadcat | Kizmet: what hte fuck |
| 06:28.02 | asdfg | why postresql? |
| 06:28.08 | deadcat | Kizmet: what kernel you using? |
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| 06:28.12 | emullen | l |
| 06:28.26 | Kizmet | im using kernel-2.6.11-1-686 |
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| 06:28.33 | Kizmet | im pretty sure anyways |
| 06:28.49 | emullen | i got same prob few days ago but when i tryd with ndis it work perfect now but i dont know prism |
| 06:28.56 | deadcat | Kizmet: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` module-assistant ipw2100-source |
| 06:29.05 | Kizmet | ok |
| 06:29.21 | asdfg | which accounting package would you recommend? |
| 06:29.27 | deadcat | emullen: you only use ndis when no linux driver works on the card. |
| 06:29.37 | deadcat | asdfg: vi |
| 06:29.46 | emullen | yes |
| 06:29.54 | asdfg | vi is an editor!? |
| 06:29.55 | emullen | i understand |
| 06:30.03 | deadcat | asdfg: yes |
| 06:30.12 | Kizmet | thats peoples |
| 06:30.24 | asdfg | i am talking about accounting package. |
| 06:31.20 | asdfg | deadcat:profit/loss, revenue/cost, you know them? |
| 06:31.30 | deadcat | asdfg: no |
| 06:31.39 | emullen | did the remove but its still starting up kda know anything els? |
| 06:31.39 | asdfg | full name? |
| 06:31.54 | cheal | what's kda? |
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| 06:32.40 | asdfg | can someone tell me more about postgresql and mysql? |
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| 06:32.50 | deadcat | asdfg: go to their site. dammit |
| 06:32.53 | emullen | man mysql? |
| 06:33.17 | asdfg | i want to hear fr people who have used them, dummy. |
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| 06:33.22 | torc | hello. how can i safely remove exim* pkgs from the base installation, but keep the `at` which is dependant on them? |
| 06:33.28 | deadcat | asdfg: they suck.. happy now? |
| 06:33.42 | Guerin | torc: install another mta, like ssmpt or nullmailer |
| 06:33.44 | asdfg | you suck. |
| 06:33.46 | deadcat | torc: apt-get remove --purge exim, then install at |
| 06:33.54 | deadcat | asdfg: fuck you |
| 06:33.58 | Guerin | no, at depends on mail-transfer-agent |
| 06:34.00 | torc | Guerin: nullmailer means no mailer at all? |
| 06:34.14 | stew | torc: why do you want to remove exim? are you replacing it with something? |
| 06:34.16 | deadcat | torc: cool |
| 06:34.19 | edward_ | damn.. who knows if I can get Counter64 on a non 64bit OS... ? |
| 06:34.22 | jm_ | torc: no |
| 06:34.25 | asdfg | deadcat: fuck yr mother, yr sister, yr nieces, front and back. |
| 06:34.28 | torc | stew, yeah, i want to install postfix instead :/ |
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| 06:34.33 | Guerin | torc: nope, nullmailer is a very minimal MTA. You NEED an mta ona inu |
| 06:34.33 | Guerin | .metsys x |
| 06:34.33 | asdfg | bye |
| 06:34.40 | Guerin | woah |
| 06:34.40 | deadcat | asdfg: calm the fuck down... |
| 06:34.42 | deadcat | damn |
| 06:34.43 | stew | torc: apt-get install postfix exim- |
| 06:34.46 | Guerin | on a unix system, that shpould read |
| 06:34.51 | deadcat | Guerin: angry kid (= |
| 06:35.10 | torc | ok, but should i install postfix from sources myself if i need some specific configuration? (or even patches maybe) |
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| 06:35.30 | jm_ | torc: no |
| 06:35.41 | Guerin | those angry singaporeans |
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| 06:35.51 | Guerin | we should send the Dyana Wu mafia around to sort him out |
| 06:35.55 | mike | hi, does anyone know of a very simple blog with comments? and what is the best mta to use (your opinion)? |
| 06:35.56 | torc | jm_: so, i can just grab the package in src form? |
| 06:35.57 | jm_ | where's she lately? |
| 06:35.58 | deadcat | Guerin: ya. (=.. crazy communists |
| 06:36.01 | stew | torc: in that case the best thing to do is download the sources for the package and build your own version of the package, /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 06:36.08 | jm_ | torc: that's the best option |
| 06:36.10 | bucky | or the deadcat posse |
| 06:36.18 | Guerin | mike: the best one is the one which you don't have to configure much. In most cases this is exim. |
| 06:36.33 | torc | jm_: so it does give all the control of the build process, but also adds the necessary debian patches, right? |
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| 06:37.04 | Guerin | torc: doesn't so much add debian patches as builds a debian policy compliant .deb which won't break things |
| 06:37.11 | Kizmet | ok thanks deadcat, the modules are compiled now but now i need the firmware. im not sure of the driver version provided in the debian package. could you please refer me to on how to get this infomation. thanks |
| 06:37.23 | mike | Guerin: i need to configure a server with multiple virtual hosts... |
| 06:37.33 | stew | torc: apt-get source postfix will get you a version of the package as it was compiled for debian, edit debin/rules to change how it is compiled (the arguments to ./configure) then dpkg-buildpackge to build your own version of the package |
| 06:37.34 | torc | Guerin: so that i could install it on another machine with the same arch easily later, right? |
| 06:37.35 | deadcat | Kizmet: i dont own that card. (=. never messed with it before |
| 06:37.44 | stew | torc: yes |
| 06:37.52 | Guerin | mike: i use postfix and mysql for that. Exim can do it, though. |
| 06:37.53 | Kizmet | could you refer me on howto seek out the driver version tho ? |
| 06:37.54 | torc | what about cross-compile? |
| 06:37.57 | Guerin | torc: sure. |
| 06:38.13 | deadcat | Kizmet: dpkg -l ipw2100 |
| 06:38.17 | Guerin | torc: don't ask me about cross-sompiling, I only use x86 |
| 06:38.20 | mike | Guerin: are you hosting multiple virtual email domains? |
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| 06:38.35 | stew | cross compiling scares me |
| 06:38.43 | deadcat | torc: compiling ppc shits on x86? |
| 06:38.49 | Guerin | mike: yes. If you want a step-by-step, see http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ |
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| 06:38.53 | eXoDuS | hey, im having trouble setting up apache and php4 in debian, i installed all the packages and restarted apache, it seems everything is in there, but it keeps trying to download the php files instead of handling them, I've tried asking in #php as suggested but no one could help me either, im starting to think it's somethign with sid's packages since i have a similar conf with sarge on another box and it works great, any ideas? |
| 06:38.59 | torc | ok. and what about updating the -src packages? will apt try to recompile an updated version for me 'automatically'? |
| 06:39.13 | torc | deadcat: like sparc shits ;) |
| 06:39.21 | Guerin | torc: no. You should also put the packages you build on hold - /msg dpkg hold |
| 06:39.22 | stew | eXoDuS: check the bts? |
| 06:39.27 | deadcat | torc: ya.. total craps (= |
| 06:39.27 | emullen | some one know how i can disble kde on startup? |
| 06:39.28 | mike | Guerin: thanks. |
| 06:39.36 | Guerin | emullen: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 06:39.38 | eXoDuS | stew: i tried googling for info related to debian sid, but not the bts |
| 06:39.40 | directhex | !tell emullen about nodm |
| 06:39.57 | emullen | yes i did that |
| 06:40.01 | stew | eXoDuS: in all reality, i doubt there is something in the bts |
| 06:40.02 | torc | ok. looks promising. and what... about building the kernel? especially if i need a load of patches like PaX & others? |
| 06:40.18 | eXoDuS | stew: me too |
| 06:40.22 | deadcat | emullen: disable kde on startup? kde dont startup when system boot |
| 06:40.27 | Guerin | torc: /msg dpkg about kp and kp mantra |
| 06:40.30 | stew | eXoDuS: it's gotta be a PICNIC / PEBCAK whatever |
| 06:40.34 | cheal | emullen: this is a debian support channel, please ask your questions to #knoppix |
| 06:40.37 | emullen | wel it does on my computer |
| 06:40.50 | emullen | i mean when i start up its start kde automati |
| 06:40.51 | deadcat | cheal: oh ya. that moron is using knoppix. i forgot. (= |
| 06:40.52 | emullen | c |
| 06:41.04 | emullen | no |
| 06:41.05 | deadcat | emullen: motherfucker you are using KNOPPIX |
| 06:41.09 | emullen | are you still that noob |
| 06:41.15 | emullen | iam using debian |
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| 06:41.18 | Guerin | emullen: you've had your answer. If it doesn't work, ask the people who made your gdmf distro. |
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| 06:41.21 | torc | Guerin: ok, so i should compile the kernel with the official package also? will it make a .deb for me? |
| 06:41.30 | emullen | i got debian damnit |
| 06:41.41 | eXoDuS | stew: if it is it's not obvious, plus the packages are supposed to modify the scripts themselves, and it seems it did, but it's not working, it added everything needed manually but it's not working (it works on sarge though) |
| 06:41.50 | deadcat | !lynch emullen |
| 06:41.56 | emullen | rofl |
| 06:42.02 | stew | emullen: really, you are in the wrong channel |
| 06:42.11 | emullen | wait il prove |
| 06:42.16 | emullen | il bust you ass out |
| 06:42.17 | stew | emullen: please /p ; /join #knoppix |
| 06:42.23 | simonrvn | #knoppix is that way --> |
| 06:42.46 | bucky | now even the netherlanders are angry |
| 06:42.47 | deadcat | emullen: just make a left bro... |
| 06:42.48 | cheal | emullen: you can either install sarge, go to #knoppix and leave this channel, or wait before no one answers you |
| 06:42.55 | deadcat | bucky: HAHAHAH |
| 06:42.57 | simonrvn | /exec -o cat /etc/debian_version |
| 06:42.58 | jm_ | simonrvn: I only see two cacti and gkrellm that way :) |
| 06:43.09 | simonrvn | jm_: hehe |
| 06:43.21 | directhex | simonrvn, that proves nothing, all debian derrivatives will still say 3.1 |
| 06:43.29 | deadcat | ya |
| 06:43.40 | stew | emullen: i'll prove, try this: if [ "knoppix" = "debian" ]; then echo you are right; else echo you are wrong ; fi |
| 06:43.43 | simonrvn | install lsb-* ? |
| 06:43.50 | cheal | there should really be a debian certification command :) |
| 06:44.17 | deadcat | cheal: ya.. so morons from ubuntu and knoppix dont think they are using debian |
| 06:44.46 | simonrvn | VERSION ircII 20030315 Linux 2.6.9 :ircii-debian 20020912: AT&T you will (ojnk!) |
| 06:44.51 | stew | eXoDuS: the packages are not supposed to modify the configs if you have already modified them yourself |
| 06:45.10 | eXoDuS | stew, nope, i installed a clean apache, and the installed php for |
| 06:45.13 | eXoDuS | without touching anything |
| 06:45.22 | eXoDuS | after that didnt work i started touching it |
| 06:45.27 | atrus | !certify knoppix |
| 06:45.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, certify knoppix is NO |
| 06:46.15 | deadcat | this year my linux world expo badge title will be "neverland security guard" (= |
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| 06:46.20 | Guerin | grrrr |
| 06:46.23 | eXoDuS | ouch |
| 06:46.29 | Gnea | !rootstrap |
| 06:46.31 | eXoDuS | i mistakenly purged apache and php from the other box :S |
| 06:46.35 | Guerin | fucking win98 box I shelled in from froze up hard and started beeping |
| 06:46.37 | emullen | knoppix-installer |
| 06:46.38 | emullen | That's it. You will have all the options to install the system on a partition of your choice. During installation you will be asked for "Debian installation?". Just check this option.. |
| 06:46.48 | emullen | there you go |
| 06:46.50 | emullen | noob |
| 06:46.53 | Guerin | emullen: it's not fucking debian, you useless twat. |
| 06:46.57 | emullen | no |
| 06:47.01 | emullen | its debian |
| 06:47.05 | Gnea | uh |
| 06:47.10 | irreverentrevere | knoppix != debian |
| 06:47.12 | Guerin | if you don't use a debian install cd or debootstrap, it ain't debian. |
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| 06:47.13 | emullen | no |
| 06:47.14 | Gnea | emullen: pull your head out of the sand, son. |
| 06:47.20 | Gnea | you are wrong. |
| 06:47.20 | deadcat | just kick his ass. |
| 06:47.26 | Gnea | !troll emullen |
| 06:47.28 | directhex | emullen, the simple fact is, if you were running debian, the debian answer given would have fixed your problem, in a debian way, for debian. |
| 06:47.28 | Phated | Or leave it there and suffocate, we'll take that too. |
| 06:47.29 | intero | dvips: Font cmbx12 at 13827 not found; scaling 600 instead. --> anyone knows what i am missing? |
| 06:47.38 | Guerin | emullen: we're #debian on irc.debian.org, and we're talling you it ain't. Believe you me, it ain't. |
| 06:47.55 | directhex | emullen, as it stands, the debian solution didn't work. there's one reason for that, and it involves your debian (and lack thereof) |
| 06:47.58 | directhex | !debian solutions |
| 06:47.59 | dpkg | debian solutions are the answers to debian problems. we don't care if debian solutions don't apply to non-debian distributions (hardware issues with knoppix, packaging issues with linspire, whatever) |
| 06:48.03 | emullen | hmok wierd couse this says oin the Debian.org and oficaial knoppix sites |
| 06:48.06 | irreverentrevere | Guerin repeat after me: /j #knoppix |
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| 06:48.08 | deadcat | Phated: haha. your angry countryman was here earlier wanted to fuck me. (= |
| 06:48.13 | irreverentrevere | er, sorry Guerin |
| 06:48.21 | Phated | deadcat: No shit, which one? :) |
| 06:48.23 | irreverentrevere | emullen repeat after me: /j #knoppix |
| 06:48.29 | stew | eXoDuS: all you should need is a loadmodule and an addtype |
| 06:48.29 | stew | machine that going bing? |
| 06:48.31 | cheal | hehe |
| 06:48.34 | deadcat | Phated: generic name "asdfg" |
| 06:48.40 | emullen | ok can i proof it with any command or smth? |
| 06:48.41 | Phated | deadcat: Hah. |
| 06:48.51 | Guerin | emullen: where does it say on debian.org that a knoppix hdinstall is actual debian? |
| 06:49.01 | Guerin | emullen: please give me a link, for I haven't seen that one. |
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| 06:49.07 | Gnea | emullen: did you make debian or knoppix or are you just a new user? |
| 06:49.09 | simonrvn | knoppix is a different distro, hence, a different channel |
| 06:49.10 | directhex | emullen, try running "runlevel" as root, what does it say? |
| 06:49.19 | emullen | ok sec |
| 06:49.32 | emullen | N 5 |
| 06:49.35 | emullen | N 5 |
| 06:49.36 | Guerin | hah |
| 06:49.40 | directhex | that's so totally not debian it hurts |
| 06:49.41 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 06:49.44 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 06:49.49 | eXoDuS | stew: doesn't seem to be working that way though |
| 06:49.49 | eXoDuS | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:49.49 | asuffield | sounds like redhat |
| 06:49.56 | Gnea | I SANK YOUR BATTLESHIP!!! |
| 06:49.59 | emullen | rofl wierd couse i did it on my other comp where i got debian |
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| 06:50.16 | Guerin | emullen: N 2 |
| 06:50.21 | emullen | 1 sec |
| 06:50.24 | deadcat | directhex: girl.. (= |
| 06:50.26 | Gnea | Guerin: P 3 |
| 06:50.28 | directhex | emullen, debian will _NEVER_ be in runlevel 5 unless fucked with, and your problem is _ENTIRELY_ caused by thisa kind of knoppix fuckuppery |
| 06:50.36 | emullen | this is the knoppix partition |
| 06:50.36 | simonrvn | runlevel |
| 06:50.36 | simonrvn | N 2 |
| 06:50.39 | emullen | non wait |
| 06:50.50 | deadcat | emullen: shut the fuck you dumb ass. |
| 06:50.55 | deadcat | arg |
| 06:51.00 | Guerin | torc: if you build with make-kpkg, you can build any kernel source into .deb packages |
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| 06:51.05 | Gnea | deadcat: nice one :) |
| 06:51.05 | deadcat | time to ban him so he cant get in (= |
| 06:51.26 | torc | Guerin: ok, thanks :) |
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| 06:51.42 | Guerin | Gnea: rootstrap? nothing like debootstrap? |
| 06:51.56 | asuffield | rootstrap is uml |
| 06:52.01 | Guerin | oh, ok |
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| 06:52.09 | Gnea | Guerin: what asuffield said |
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| 06:52.29 | Guerin | i seem to recall uml being dropped because it wasn't maintained any more... |
| 06:52.30 | Gnea | i found the .debs for 3.2 |
| 06:52.33 | Gnea | but those are dated |
| 06:52.39 | Gnea | uh |
| 06:53.07 | eXoDuS | lol |
| 06:53.11 | eXoDuS | that emullen guy was funny |
| 06:53.27 | PumpkinPie | im trying to adduser but I cant login to via afterwards? whats wrong with 'useradd -s /bin/false -m -p password test3' ? |
| 06:53.30 | Guerin | haha |
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| 06:53.51 | jm_ | PumpkinPie: many things |
| 06:53.55 | directhex | root root root |
| 06:54.01 | PumpkinPie | jm: help me out |
| 06:54.11 | stew | !tell emullen about root |
| 06:54.12 | directhex | maybe he's on linspire now =] |
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| 06:54.20 | jm_ | PumpkinPie: 1. shell, 2. password for -p must be encrypted, not in plain-text |
| 06:54.22 | Guerin | directhex: hah |
| 06:54.25 | Anders1 | 0854.19 | >emullen< CTCP HAXX |
| 06:54.26 | Anders1 | \o/ |
| 06:54.32 | PumpkinPie | 1. theres nothing wrong with shell |
| 06:54.41 | asuffield | PumpkinPie: that command was clearly designed to prohibit logging in |
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| 06:54.49 | PumpkinPie | lol |
| 06:54.51 | Guerin | how do you log into /bin/false? |
| 06:55.00 | PumpkinPie | I can login via ftp I mean |
| 06:55.07 | directhex | what happens if you set your shell to /bin/true? |
| 06:55.12 | jm_ | that means jack all |
| 06:55.20 | PumpkinPie | but clearly its not plain text |
| 06:55.31 | PumpkinPie | I read that but I thought it was ridiculous |
| 06:55.42 | asuffield | directhex: same thing, neither is a valid shell |
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| 06:56.18 | PumpkinPie | it lets me login to /bin/false |
| 06:56.24 | Guerin | no it does not |
| 06:56.27 | asuffield | directhex: pretty much anything that's not a shell does the same thing |
| 06:56.27 | PumpkinPie | via FTP |
| 06:56.28 | JonasNZ | hmm, any1 able to help me i have an RT2500 chipsset wifi card, and im trying to do a net install, but i cant figure out how to get the wifi card working |
| 06:56.32 | Guerin | it lets you log into a ftpd |
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| 06:56.43 | PumpkinPie | yeah I said FTP |
| 06:56.46 | Guerin | this is very different from a unix login |
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| 06:57.02 | emullen | ok i give you right now you where right sorry for the noobin |
| 06:57.08 | emullen | +G |
| 06:57.17 | sparr_ | not exactly on topic, but... I am trying to compile Scourge 0.9, and the configure script says it cant find any of my SDL libs (SDL_mixer, SDL_net, etc) or any of the GL libs (GL, MesaGL, etc). I know I have them, I can see /usr/lib/libGL.so (and a dozen other copies across the system) and I have had to compile SDL and GL stuff very recently with no problems. Help? |
| 06:57.27 | emullen | cu ;) |
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| 06:57.39 | jm_ | sparr_: you're missing development packages for them |
| 06:57.44 | eeEE | has anyone installed php4.3.3 or > on stable? |
| 06:57.57 | sparr_ | jm_: no, im not |
| 06:57.58 | Guerin | eeEE: someone from dotdeb.org has |
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| 06:58.12 | jm_ | sparr_: yes, you are |
| 06:58.17 | eeEE | Guerin: thanks, i'll check that |
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| 06:59.13 | LM` | hi, just wanted to let you know about a brilliant warez community. It has been stopped but it reopened and looking for great users. http://www.projectws.org. Please visit. It has no spam what so ever. |
| 06:59.15 | *** kick/#debian [LM`!~debhelper@debhelper.user] by debhelper (flood) |
| 06:59.32 | Gnea | liar! |
| 06:59.34 | cheal | spammers are funny today |
| 06:59.39 | deadcat | (= |
| 06:59.39 | sparr_ | jm_: ive got libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, which I installed specifically last time another programs configure script complained about me not having. ditto for libsdl-net1.2-dev, nvidia-glx-dev |
| 07:00.04 | jm_ | sparr_: then check how scourge is checking for it, is it using sdl-config? |
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| 07:00.27 | sparr_ | jm_: sadly I dont speak configure-script-ese :( |
| 07:00.29 | torc | is `at` required by the base system? |
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| 07:00.36 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 07:00.38 | vortek | Hello Maybe I'm doing something wrong but when ever I try any bitchx scripts... I get funky chars like ÚÄÄ vortek |
| 07:00.49 | vortek | did I not install a certian console font ? |
| 07:00.56 | jm_ | sparr_: well run sh -x configure, it will spit out the commands (better redirect it to a file, there will be a lot of it) |
| 07:01.23 | jm_ | vortek: it's probably using high-ascii chars, try echo -e '\e(U' before starting BitchX |
| 07:01.27 | Guerin | vortek: no, you used bitchx, which is shit. That's part of the reason bx has been removed from sarge. Refer to the BTS. |
| 07:01.29 | ph0bia | Overfiend: contrags man, great job on that interview |
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| 07:01.32 | ph0bia | DEBIAN RULES ALL |
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| 07:01.51 | sparr_ | jm_: thats awesome! never knew about that, I was wasting time following variable names back through the file manually |
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| 07:02.03 | jm_ | sparr_: yeah that's a real pain in the ass ;) |
| 07:02.03 | JonasNZ | hmm, any1 able to help me i have an RT2500 chipsset wifi card, and im trying to do a net install, but i cant figure out how to get the wifi card working |
| 07:02.10 | Guerin | DimmuR: we will try, but ultimately fail. |
| 07:02.14 | Guerin | bah |
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| 07:02.25 | jm_ | sparr_: you can also put "set -x" in the shell script and it'll do the same, that way you don't have to use sh -x ... |
| 07:02.54 | vortek | jmitch. thanxs |
| 07:03.31 | vortek | Guerin : Untill some one makes something as visual stunning as bitchx and ansi themes with sexsie neon bars and animated glowing sidebars in console.. I'll use bx :) |
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| 07:03.35 | sparr_ | jm_: still unable to follow the script :( was worth a try though. seems like its using gcc to check though |
| 07:03.54 | Guerin | vortek: you poor, sick bastard. |
| 07:04.08 | jm_ | sparr_: yes, it will be gcc ultimately, but it should use sdl-config prior to that to learn about switches it must use |
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| 07:04.28 | Guerin | vortek: as it happens, I remember don telling you about this bug in some detail not more than a few days ago |
| 07:04.28 | vortek | Guerin : Well Its sexsie no matter how you look at it man.. I used to make it look like that in 1997 |
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| 07:04.34 | Guerin | are all BX users this stupid? |
| 07:04.35 | eXoDuS | stew: well, i got it to work finally |
| 07:04.39 | eXoDuS | stew: don't ask me how :P |
| 07:04.43 | vortek | Guerin : no he told me about a bug that is bogus |
| 07:04.54 | vortek | Guerin : I emailed the maintainer He said its a bogus bug |
| 07:04.58 | Penix | most of them are stupiderer |
| 07:05.00 | Guerin | no, he told you about a bug which fails to escape characters properly |
| 07:05.04 | vortek | Guerin : nor was eye nor any one able to produce the bug |
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| 07:05.13 | Guerin | has he closed the bug? |
| 07:05.15 | vortek | Guerin : and the bug was related to securitty |
| 07:05.32 | vortek | Guerin : and I remember having this problem in the old days one time just not shure How I fixed it. |
| 07:05.35 | Guerin | vortek: because not escaping certain characters IS a security issue. |
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| 07:06.01 | vortek | Guerin. I nor any one else has been able to recreate the bug.. And I had people compile with with utf styles and every thing. |
| 07:06.32 | Guerin | vortek: i guess he'll close the bug, then. |
| 07:06.36 | vortek | Any ways you know any other console based chat that has sexsie ansi neon themes ? |
| 07:06.40 | vortek | Guerin : word |
| 07:07.01 | vortek | Guerin : i'd be glad to switch If I can find any thing that looks close to cypress.bx or argon |
| 07:07.17 | simonrvn | irssi with a custom theme... |
| 07:07.19 | Guerin | why the fuck do you care so much about the look of a text-only irc client? |
| 07:07.21 | Guerin | jesus |
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| 07:07.35 | Guerin | i guess everyone has their fetishes |
| 07:07.44 | ecfx | I need a good irssi theme |
| 07:07.45 | vortek | Guerin : Cause Its my computer and If I want it to look nice and take advantage of ANSI and linux's techonology I will :) |
| 07:07.49 | ecfx | Anyone have any they recommend? |
| 07:08.01 | vortek | ecfx. if you find a nice looking one let me know |
| 07:08.04 | ecfx | Good point vortek |
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| 07:08.22 | vortek | Guerin : next your going to tell me Why run a nice 3d GUI when I can run a 8bit 2d them for Xwindows :P |
| 07:08.23 | vortek | :) |
| 07:08.25 | ecfx | What is the fun in an open source desktop.. |
| 07:08.29 | ecfx | When you can't tweak the hell out of it. |
| 07:08.32 | vortek | True |
| 07:08.41 | vortek | And even in console you can make bitchx look very NICE |
| 07:08.45 | ecfx | yea |
| 07:08.49 | ecfx | console irc can be awesome |
| 07:08.51 | ecfx | With a good theme |
| 07:08.57 | Guerin | the eyecandy goblins strike again |
| 07:09.01 | vortek | Right now i got a cypress theme loaded its eyegasms just bad char output. |
| 07:09.02 | ecfx | lol |
| 07:09.07 | ecfx | I'm not an eye candy goblin. |
| 07:09.09 | ecfx | I use fluxbox |
| 07:09.12 | vortek | Guerin : well go back to windows 3.11 then |
| 07:09.27 | JonasNZ | any1 using a RaLink RT2500 |
| 07:09.29 | jm_ | vortek: scrollz is pretty much similar, but doesn't have all the format_foo vars |
| 07:09.31 | sparr_ | grrrr, it was failing because I didnt have libxmu-dev installed, but of course they neglected to put a check for -lXmu specifically in the configure, so every other Xmu-using compile call failed and it reported THOSE checked things as missing |
| 07:09.33 | Guerin | vortek: why? it's a shit OS. |
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| 07:09.47 | vortek | Guerin : cause its ugly and a gui. |
| 07:10.00 | vortek | jm_ scrollz is for wich client ? |
| 07:10.16 | jm_ | vortek: it's based on ircii, it's an IRC client, like BitchX |
| 07:10.49 | vortek | ill check it out |
| 07:11.08 | furrywolf | GOD DAMMIT!!! |
| 07:11.16 | furrywolf | hard drive crash. :( |
| 07:11.22 | vortek | I supose its not in apt-cache lol |
| 07:11.26 | jm_ | it is |
| 07:11.44 | vortek | ahh sweet |
| 07:11.46 | vortek | instaling now |
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| 07:11.57 | furrywolf | 40gb western digital, loud clunking noises, not talking to computer. unplugged at the moment to keep it from getting worse. |
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| 07:13.24 | sparr_ | im not into eye candy, but for IRC im addicted to GUI clients just because of all the information I like to have right there on the screen at all times |
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| 07:13.33 | furrywolf | any suggestions, or should I just toss it in the bin? no way I can afford data recovery. |
| 07:13.43 | vortek | EWW the on join is ugly but the colors are simaler to bx |
| 07:13.45 | sparr_ | I could never get the hang of using bitchx to actively chat in more than one channel at a time, with a GUI client I regularly participate in 10 out of 30 |
| 07:13.53 | furrywolf | backups are about a month and a half stale. :( |
| 07:13.59 | vortek | sparr_: that why you create windows |
| 07:14.02 | sparr_ | having more text formatting options than a console provides is very nice too |
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| 07:14.12 | vortek | sparr_: there just like virtual consoles |
| 07:14.15 | Pythos | g'day |
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| 07:14.30 | sparr_ | vortek: tiled windows are far too small, and the options, if they exist, for watching for activity in other windows were far too hard to find |
| 07:14.31 | Ghostbuster | hi all |
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| 07:14.41 | vortek | Hey this scrollz is nice :) NOw to change the status bar |
| 07:14.52 | Guerin | haha |
| 07:14.57 | sparr_ | plus i like having menus, and a status bar full of plugins, and a nick list with informative formating (idleness, awayness, etc) |
| 07:15.16 | vortek | sparr_: simple just create full screen windows and when ever that c hannel is active hit alt 1 or alt 2 for t hat channel l# |
| 07:15.27 | PumpkinPie | anyone know if a easier way to add a user in one line ? |
| 07:15.27 | Guerin | how's this for a fun apt error: |
| 07:15.30 | Pythos | what state is the debian CD? I used to use the FD rescue image to boot, then fix lilo, etc. Can the CD <netinst, or whatever> be used like that these days? |
| 07:15.32 | sparr_ | vortek: how do you know when its active? for that matter, how do you create windows? |
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| 07:15.52 | Guerin | Failed to fetch http://fooo.../Packages.gz 302 Found |
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| 07:16.20 | jinx`` | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:16.21 | sparr_ | vortek: sadly i never got into the whole paradigm of non-trivial console IRC. kvirc, ksirc, xchat, mirc, pirch... they all have roughly the same interface, so being used to one of them i gravitate towards them when on a new platform |
| 07:16.23 | Guerin | almost as good as the old evo error I used to get: Error: Success. |
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| 07:16.39 | vortek | sparr_: on the right the # of the window will pop up.. You do it like this ... /window new then /window hide ... now type /window next and join the channel you want in that window then type hit alt 1 to go to window one... Win window 2 is active a 2 will pop up in the right |
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| 07:17.13 | vortek | sparr_: word... There all ugly though... I mean the gui's are some what themable though :) |
| 07:17.16 | sparr_ | vortek: how do you distinguish between low activity and very high activity? or join/part vs actual chat? or bot chat vs human chat? |
| 07:17.39 | vortek | sparr_: you can't just like normal irc you just look at the minimimzed channel |
| 07:17.50 | sparr_ | in kvirc (my cross platform client of choice these days) i have all of that information on my screen for 30 channels at once |
| 07:17.51 | vortek | sparr_: you could create a script though. |
| 07:18.29 | vortek | sparr_: gui is cool But I have not yet found one chat gui for x that looked like my custom mirc themes or even close :( |
| 07:18.37 | Pythos | can the debian installer cd be used in the capacity of "rescue" now days? |
| 07:18.39 | Guerin | fuck's sakes |
| 07:18.40 | sparr_ | and i can hover a channel to see details. #debian, 9 active users, 9 hot users. vortek, sparr_ and 2 others are talking. medium activity [77% human] |
| 07:18.45 | vortek | Guerin: nice error |
| 07:19.04 | Guerin | Pythos: it can be, if you're comfortable in a very minimal environment |
| 07:19.13 | sparr_ | vortek: i bet i can make kvirc look exactly like your mirc, if i wanted. i switched from ksirc to kvirc on linux a while ago,a nd now ive switched from mirc to kvirc as well. |
| 07:19.38 | vortek | sparr_: I just found it some what limited in what you can theme but maybe im wrong. |
| 07:19.50 | sparr_ | kvirc does all by itself 99% of what i ever installed/wrote scripts for mirc to do. and on top of that it has an even more powerful scripting system than mirc |
| 07:20.00 | sparr_ | vortek: you sure youre thinking of k*V*irc and not k*S*irc? |
| 07:20.01 | vortek | sparr_: I'm more of a console cowboy my self any ways. |
| 07:20.09 | vortek | oh |
| 07:20.18 | Pythos | Um, the old floppy way was to enter 'rescue vmlinuz /dev/hda2' in the past, I think, and maybe that would bring up the install on hda2... ??? |
| 07:20.30 | SlayerXP | any debian-amd64 users in? |
| 07:20.51 | SlayerXP | if so, please tell me if your /sbin/grub binary is compiled for a i386 |
| 07:20.54 | Pythos | or' rescue linux root=/dev/hda2 |
| 07:22.00 | CyzarX | anyone know how to install cedega on sarge debian? possible to point me to a good step-by-step link? cuz googling on cedega, result not really good |
| 07:22.15 | ecfx | CyzarX, Cedega isn't free |
| 07:22.20 | ecfx | You have to pay for it |
| 07:22.34 | CyzarX | ecfx, yes, i know. i aledy got the software |
| 07:22.45 | ecfx | You download it? |
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| 07:23.25 | CyzarX | ecfx, yes |
| 07:23.56 | ecfx | CyzarX, I guess you just take the two tarballs... |
| 07:23.58 | ecfx | ANd put them in root |
| 07:24.00 | ecfx | and untar it |
| 07:24.05 | Guerin | fuck, massive memory overload on my box |
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| 07:24.23 | Guerin | something's just pwn3d my mysqld |
| 07:24.30 | CyzarX | ecfx, i have the cedega for debian. it is not in source |
| 07:24.39 | ecfx | o |
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| 07:24.44 | ecfx | There is a cedega for debian |
| 07:24.46 | ecfx | I dunno |
| 07:24.47 | ecfx | lol |
| 07:24.51 | Guerin | no |
| 07:24.51 | ecfx | I didn't pay for Cedega |
| 07:25.01 | DinoSavroS | einai kanenas edw elinas? |
| 07:25.32 | sparr_ | vortek: well, if i had known about /window in bitchx i might have liked it more, but i dont think it would have ever satisfied my information addiction :) with a GUI i can put SO much on the screen, where with a console every character is precious space not to be wasted |
| 07:25.42 | ecfx | DinoSavroS, maybe #debian-gr |
| 07:25.52 | ecfx | What language is that? |
| 07:25.56 | ecfx | It's not greek I don't think. |
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| 07:26.35 | CyzarX | ecfx, can i pm u for further assisstance plz? since u have cedega experience :P |
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| 07:26.53 | sparr_ | google thinks its greek |
| 07:27.06 | Guerin | k |
| 07:27.09 | ecfx | CyzarX, sure |
| 07:27.13 | DinoSavroS | google.gr its greek |
| 07:27.14 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:27.22 | ecfx | yea, I saw |
| 07:27.26 | sparr_ | the majority of the first page of google hits go to .gr or *greek* |
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| 07:27.31 | vortek2 | hrm |
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| 07:27.37 | DinoSavroS | :p |
| 07:27.51 | ecfx | DinoSavroS, speak ingles? |
| 07:28.14 | Ganonator | My friend recently set up a linksys wifi card for me with the ndiswrapper with my laptop. One day, it stopped working, and I don't know what I did. It basically isn't loading the module I think, but when I run ndiswrapper -l it says the driver is loaded and the hardware is present, how do I load the module now or what is my next step? |
| 07:28.25 | DinoSavroS | ha ha ha |
| 07:28.27 | ecfx | sparr_, /country .gr |
| 07:28.28 | ecfx | type that |
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| 07:30.30 | DinoSavroS | ecfx do you speak Griik? |
| 07:31.20 | deadcat | PaloDeQueso: it might be a prism card. so you dont need to use ndis |
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| 07:33.51 | ecfx | DinoSavroS, no |
| 07:33.52 | ecfx | sorry |
| 07:33.57 | DinoSavroS | kk |
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| 07:35.01 | evilgeek | is there a way to convince apt that i have some package installed? |
| 07:35.14 | Guerin | evilgeek: install it |
| 07:35.19 | deadcat | AHHA |
| 07:35.27 | evilgeek | other than that. |
| 07:35.44 | Gathond | evilgeek: make an empty package with that name and install that? |
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| 07:35.57 | Guerin | Gathond: it's not QUITE that simple |
| 07:36.03 | Guerin | !tell evilgeek about equivs |
| 07:36.17 | evilgeek | killer. |
| 07:36.19 | evilgeek | thanks. |
| 07:36.26 | Gathond | Guerin: it would probably satisfy apt though :) |
| 07:36.35 | Guerin | nope... sure wouldn't |
| 07:36.49 | Guerin | it could break lots of things |
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| 07:37.04 | Gathond | Guerin: sure it could break stuff |
| 07:37.22 | mike | Guerin: did u make your mailserver from that @ workaround.org? |
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| 07:37.42 | Kizmet | Well deadcat my wireless if officially working. THANKYOU !!! |
| 07:37.42 | Kizmet | s/if/is/gi |
| 07:37.50 | Guerin | mike: no, I used http://high5.net/howto/ - the principles are identical |
| 07:38.00 | deadcat | Kizmet: cool |
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| 07:38.48 | Photar | anyone have a recomendation for a pop3 or imap server software? |
| 07:38.50 | mike | Guerin: do you offer both IMAP and POP3? |
| 07:39.13 | Guerin | yes |
| 07:39.21 | Photar | is there a server that will do both? |
| 07:39.27 | mike | bye Guerin |
| 07:39.32 | teun | Photar: cyrus does |
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| 07:39.53 | ben_h | hi all. |
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| 07:40.05 | Photar | teun: do you recommend it? |
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| 07:40.23 | teun | Photar: yeah, I think it's a decent imap/pop server |
| 07:40.27 | teun | although courier is ok too |
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| 07:42.36 | c4_ | so? |
| 07:42.47 | deadcat | what? |
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| 07:42.55 | sparr_ | SilentBob: what client has /country ? |
| 07:43.03 | SilentBob | xchat |
| 07:43.08 | SilentBob | and irssi has a plugin for it |
| 07:43.11 | NeoBREED | besides mplayer, are there any other good video players? |
| 07:43.16 | SilentBob | .gr = Greece |
| 07:43.23 | SilentBob | .cx = Christmas Island |
| 07:43.23 | c4_ | i don't know, some awake? |
| 07:43.28 | SilentBob | I can /country anythingiwant |
| 07:43.29 | SilentBob | heh |
| 07:43.36 | deadcat | NeoBREED: xine |
| 07:43.41 | SilentBob | NeoBREED, mplayer is considered the best! |
| 07:43.48 | SilentBob | There are plenty of others though. |
| 07:43.49 | deadcat | SilentBob: shhhhh |
| 07:43.50 | NeoBREED | but it's not on apt-get |
| 07:43.53 | SilentBob | apt-cache search video player |
| 07:44.09 | SilentBob | NeoBREED, /msg dpkg marillat |
| 07:44.15 | c4_ | i see... i'm laging |
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| 07:45.03 | NeoBREED | thanks |
| 07:45.55 | Gumby | can anyone tell me how to get out of a screen session without having to close the window? is it even possible? |
| 07:46.05 | buu | Gumby: c-a d? |
| 07:46.33 | jm_ | Gumby: exit all the shells |
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| 07:47.06 | deadcat | Gumby: ^A+d |
| 07:47.12 | evilgeek | ^A D |
| 07:47.14 | danikata | hi all |
| 07:47.17 | deadcat | detach |
| 07:47.19 | buu | I said that =[ |
| 07:47.19 | danikata | could u tell |
| 07:47.28 | Gumby | deadcat: perfect thanks |
| 07:47.33 | Gumby | and evilgeek as well |
| 07:47.35 | evilgeek | ^A^D works, too. |
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| 07:47.41 | danikata | anyone tell me about powerful antivirus application in debian ? |
| 07:47.43 | eeEE | hm, i needed to upgrade my stable box to php4.3.3 or >. i used dotdeb, but it looks like the highest version is 4.3.11-0.dotdeb.0. |
| 07:47.45 | buu | I feel ignored =[ |
| 07:47.58 | eeEE | is there a backported php4.3.3. > around? |
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| 07:48.23 | takatumi | danikata: apt-cache search antivirus |
| 07:48.40 | deadcat | buu: shutup (= |
| 07:48.48 | deadcat | eeEE: backports.org |
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| 07:49.15 | Gumby | buu: sorry, I didnt understand the c-a part |
| 07:49.20 | Gumby | but thank you too :) |
| 07:49.46 | deadcat | buu: man screen, it says dont use C as control |
| 07:49.51 | eeEE | deadcat: a search for php on the backports.org front page only gives Source Package: libphp-adodb |
| 07:50.04 | deadcat | eeEE: apt-get.org? |
| 07:50.15 | buu | deadcat: What? Wh not? |
| 07:50.38 | deadcat | buu: dont know. but if you bind keys, you have to use ^ instead of C- |
| 07:50.42 | Gumby | so I should use shift+7 AC or ctrl+AC ? |
| 07:50.55 | Gumby | seems like either works here |
| 07:51.00 | Gumby | err |
| 07:51.02 | Gumby | shift+6 |
| 07:51.03 | buu | deadcat: Er, I wasn't trying to bind a key in my irc window. |
| 07:51.40 | deadcat | buu: i know. so you use ^ to refer to screen and C- to refer to vim binds |
| 07:52.02 | sanso | !xorg |
| 07:52.02 | dpkg | i guess xorg is X.Org X11, the industry standard implementation of the X Window System, and includes the code from XFree86 4.4RC2 plus many improvements. The current release is X11R6.8.2. It won't be uploaded into Debian unstable until its packages and the testing-proposed-updates infrastructure are ready. See http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/svn/xfree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans for more information. See also: 'get xorg' |
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| 07:52.35 | buu | deadcat: The point is communicating with people, not vim =/ |
| 07:52.47 | deadcat | buu: well he didnt understand (= |
| 07:52.53 | buu | Well ok you have a point. |
| 07:53.00 | eeEE | can anyone recommend a server for php4.3.3 > ? i see some here on apt-get.org, but not sure what to trust. |
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| 07:53.05 | buu | I see that as a failing on *his* fault. |
| 07:53.13 | buu | eeEE: php has been removed because it sucks ass. |
| 07:53.16 | jay | is debian good? |
| 07:53.20 | SlayerXP | jay: no |
| 07:53.24 | deadcat | jay: no |
| 07:53.27 | buu | jay: No, you want lfs. |
| 07:53.29 | deadcat | worst of the crap |
| 07:53.40 | buu | jay: Try os/2 it's a better distro. |
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| 07:53.57 | SlayerXP | buu: os/2 warp, i think you mean |
| 07:54.06 | buu | SlayerXP: Exa-ctly! |
| 07:54.13 | NeoBREED | SilentBob, hey, there's an error with source when I added the line deb ftp:/***/ testing main even if I add deb-src link that they give at the site |
| 07:54.23 | jay | what is os/2 |
| 07:54.30 | buu | jay: Just go download it, it's great. |
| 07:54.32 | takatumi | !tell jay -about why debian |
| 07:54.35 | jm_ | NeoBREED: they don't have source packages on that site, at least for Sarge - ignore it |
| 07:54.36 | buu | =[ |
| 07:54.41 | deadcat | jay: fuck'em, you want gentoo. best distro EVER |
| 07:54.55 | buu | deadcat: Dude, don't tell him about gentoo. He's not l33t enough. |
| 07:55.00 | NeoBREED | jm_, the thing is, I can't apt-cache search for mplayer |
| 07:55.02 | deadcat | buu: (= |
| 07:55.03 | buu | Only the top of the hardcore get the gentoo. |
| 07:55.12 | jm_ | NeoBREED: then you added wrong entry |
| 07:55.26 | SilentBob | NeoBREED, what is the entry? |
| 07:55.31 | takatumi | buu: bull shit, check the forums. |
| 07:55.33 | buu | EACH STRIPE ADDS FIVE MEGAHURTZ |
| 07:55.36 | NeoBREED | I did the sarge testing |
| 07:55.41 | jay | what is I/O error? |
| 07:55.41 | buu | takatumi: What the hell are you talking about/ |
| 07:56.04 | takatumi | buu: never mind, good luck with the painting. |
| 07:56.05 | simonrvn | 'hertz' |
| 07:56.05 | deadcat | jay: ignore it. just a kernel joke |
| 07:56.25 | SlayerXP | i was talking to a complete cluehole yesterday |
| 07:56.28 | buu | HURTZ YOU MORON |
| 07:56.36 | deadcat | oh girl |
| 07:56.41 | SlayerXP | he was saying that 64 bit application runs slower than 32 bit |
| 07:56.50 | NeoBREED | ? |
| 07:56.56 | simonrvn | @lart buu |
| 07:57.02 | SlayerXP | yet, just a few sentences later, he remarked on the performance increases gained by going from 16 to 32 bit. |
| 07:57.12 | takatumi | buu: premature, 1 second? |
| 07:57.13 | halo023 | so what os is the best? |
| 07:57.15 | deadcat | SlayerXP: hehe |
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| 07:57.24 | deadcat | halo023: win95 |
| 07:57.36 | buu | takatumi: It was a *good* judo chop. |
| 07:57.55 | cooly | hi. maybe strange question but is it possible to create filesystem which would have crypted data on it and kernel would be able to read it only if it will have a key for it? i mean physical drive not virtual loopback-encrypted fs |
| 07:58.25 | deadcat | cooly: ya |
| 07:58.27 | jm_ | cooly: of course |
| 07:58.32 | NeoBREED | SilentBob, I put in the sarge testing.... but it doesn't work |
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| 07:58.48 | deadcat | cooly: no point of crypting if you can just mount the mofo |
| 07:58.53 | cooly | deadcat, jm_: and can you give me a hint word, with what to begin? |
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| 07:59.11 | deadcat | cooly: 2.6.4 or greater. use dm-crypt |
| 07:59.14 | _dirk | joehoe ! |
| 07:59.18 | jm_ | cooly: dm-crypt for 2.6 |
| 07:59.24 | cooly | ok tnx |
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| 08:00.00 | deadcat | cooly: http://deadcat.katzeye.com/index.php?SCREEN=hack&ID=cmount |
| 08:00.08 | cooly | i would like just make, that if someone stole me my laptop, he wouldnt be able to use data on it |
| 08:00.09 | gsp | has anyone set up wireless networking with the ACX100 chip? |
| 08:00.22 | deadcat | cooly: ya. |
| 08:00.23 | buu | cooly: Thermite, rfid tags, wireless card. |
| 08:00.30 | _dirk | ehm guys, i'm running debian sid, volumemanager doesn't do his work |
| 08:00.33 | buu | If you add enough, you'll fix the theif as well. |
| 08:00.34 | deadcat | gsp: yes. apt-cache search acx100 |
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| 08:00.41 | gsp | I've gotten it working... but it's rather cumbersome... and if I were to try to login to a different network it would be impossible without using windoze |
| 08:00.51 | _dirk | mount cameras work |
| 08:01.11 | _dirk | but that gnomevolumemanager, argh..... |
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| 08:01.14 | deadcat | gp-: use the debian acx100 source or cvs: http://sshonly.sytes.net/config/wireless.links |
| 08:01.19 | PaloDeQueso | ok, I've been playing with the ndiswrapper and I can load the correct .ini file but the .sys file I have, when I load it, it says invalid driver. Is there a specific kind of driver I have to use with the ndiswrapper? |
| 08:01.21 | _dirk | i'm sick of it |
| 08:01.37 | TheMerovingian | i mount initrd.img under /mnt - and do something innocuous as - "grep -r -i hdd ." from within /mnt - the the terminal goes berserk - doesnt respond and till the time the process is not killed - cant do pretty much anything else "locally" - prints lots of newlines actually |
| 08:01.50 | deadcat | PaloDeQueso: what card you have? |
| 08:02.13 | TheMerovingian | have to ssh into the machine from elsewhere and kill the process - the process doesnt eat up the cpu/mem |
| 08:02.35 | gsp | deadcat I did... and I have it working, but I had to use a script to configure it with the network name and WEP key on startup. That doesn't seem to easy for travel between various networks |
| 08:02.36 | cooly | deadcat, have you use it before? how secure for data corruption is it? is there possibility that this filesystem become corrupted bigger than normal non-crypted or possibilities are the same? |
| 08:02.54 | _dirk | when becomes sarge stable? |
| 08:02.59 | cooly | not from physical damages but software damages |
| 08:03.08 | deadcat | gsp: its pretty easy to me |
| 08:03.17 | deadcat | cooly: i use it all the time. |
| 08:03.29 | cooly | deadcat, and there are no problems then |
| 08:03.31 | gsp | but what if I don't know the name of the networks in my area... IE at a local coffee shop or something |
| 08:03.36 | deadcat | cooly: no problem |
| 08:03.38 | cooly | deadcat, good, thank you a lot |
| 08:03.45 | NeoBREED | how can I get the marillat thing working? |
| 08:03.46 | deadcat | gsp: kismet |
| 08:03.55 | NeoBREED | I want to be able to apt-cache search mplayer |
| 08:03.57 | gsp | ok I'll try that |
| 08:03.58 | deadcat | !marillat |
| 08:03.58 | dpkg | it has been said that marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list |
| 08:03.59 | gsp | thanks! |
| 08:04.01 | PaloDeQueso | deadcat, WPC11 |
| 08:04.14 | _dirk | just add it in /etc/apt/sources.list NeoBREED |
| 08:04.17 | gsp | oh... and how can I make a script run on boot? |
| 08:04.22 | NeoBREED | I added the line deb ftp://ftp.*****/ to it |
| 08:04.28 | NeoBREED | but it wouldn't show up |
| 08:04.31 | PaloDeQueso | deadcat, it was working, but one day I rebooted and now it doesn't load the module? |
| 08:04.34 | deadcat | PaloDeQueso: isnt that a prism card? |
| 08:04.36 | NeoBREED | _dirk, I did. |
| 08:04.42 | _dirk | uncomment it NeoBREED |
| 08:04.48 | valdyn | NeoBREED: which line |
| 08:04.49 | jm_ | NeoBREED: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 08:04.57 | jm_ | NeoBREED: you need to run update obviously |
| 08:05.07 | NeoBREED | I added the one for sarge testing |
| 08:05.09 | deadcat | gsp: put the script in /etc/init.d/ then man update-rc.d |
| 08:05.21 | gsp | thank you |
| 08:05.27 | gsp | off for more late nite fun... |
| 08:05.29 | _dirk | all the lines where # stands doesn't work |
| 08:05.39 | NeoBREED | ah. the update |
| 08:05.45 | deadcat | PaloDeQueso: i think that card is a prism card. you can use the orinoco driver i think. |
| 08:05.46 | _dirk | unless you uncomment that |
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| 08:06.01 | _dirk | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade NeoBREED |
| 08:06.20 | PaloDeQueso | it's not, it's a realtek I'm pretty sure. |
| 08:06.29 | deadcat | PaloDeQueso: ah. |
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| 08:06.47 | PaloDeQueso | My friend had it working with the ndiswrapper before |
| 08:06.58 | PaloDeQueso | and then oneday I rebooted and it failed to load the module ndiswrapper |
| 08:07.10 | deadcat | PaloDeQueso: updated the kernel? |
| 08:07.28 | PaloDeQueso | would that break it? |
| 08:07.33 | deadcat | hell ya |
| 08:07.40 | PaloDeQueso | I don't think I did though. |
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| 08:08.07 | PaloDeQueso | How do I find out. |
| 08:08.08 | PaloDeQueso | ? |
| 08:08.12 | deadcat | uname -r |
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| 08:08.30 | gsp | what was the name of that utility you mentioned for scanning wireless networks? |
| 08:08.34 | PaloDeQueso | nope, same kernel. |
| 08:09.17 | deadcat | gsp: kismet |
| 08:09.19 | NeoBREED | I was wondering... do I apt-get install mplayer-gui ? |
| 08:09.24 | NeoBREED | to get mplayer |
| 08:09.28 | buu | No! |
| 08:09.31 | deadcat | mplayer-arch |
| 08:09.37 | buu | GUI's are for lamers. |
| 08:09.47 | NeoBREED | hm.... it's not there |
| 08:09.47 | _dirk | apt-cache search mplayer |
| 08:09.49 | NeoBREED | wth |
| 08:09.53 | evilgeek | i didn't know that mplayer was in debian. |
| 08:10.01 | deadcat | evilgeek: its not |
| 08:10.01 | caphuso | evilgeek: not yet |
| 08:10.09 | trym | yeah lets be hardcore for the sake of being hardcore |
| 08:10.17 | trym | gui's are for people who doesnt want to waste times |
| 08:10.17 | _dirk | apt-cache search mplayer NeoBREED |
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| 08:10.20 | trym | time, even |
| 08:10.22 | _zardoz_ | how do i change the system time ? |
| 08:10.24 | PaloDeQueso | Here is an error message: "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686-smp/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"? |
| 08:10.27 | buu | trym: Naw, gui's usually waste more time. |
| 08:10.33 | caphuso | _zardoz_: date, ntpdate, ntpd |
| 08:10.34 | deadcat | _zardoz_: man date |
| 08:10.35 | evilgeek | caphuso: people have been telling me that for a long time. i take it that it will be put in debian around the time that sarge is released? |
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| 08:10.56 | buu | evilgeek: I didn't think it would ever be "in debian" due to freedom concerns. |
| 08:10.56 | NeoBREED | it has all the mplayer-* packages except for that mplayer-arch file |
| 08:11.00 | _dirk | http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ _zardoz_ |
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| 08:11.08 | evilgeek | buu: so i'm right, then. |
| 08:11.12 | buu | heh |
| 08:11.13 | caphuso | evilgeek: the ftp master needs to check the package, that can take some time (up to a few months) |
| 08:11.23 | caphuso | NeoBREED: he wanted to say "mplayer-386" |
| 08:11.28 | NeoBREED | right |
| 08:11.29 | NeoBREED | thanks |
| 08:11.32 | deadcat | NeoBREED: arch as ppc 386 |
| 08:11.43 | NeoBREED | darn it... didn't catch the lingo |
| 08:11.51 | deadcat | !lynx NeoBREED |
| 08:11.54 | deadcat | shit |
| 08:11.58 | NeoBREED | sorry |
| 08:12.00 | deadcat | !lynch NeoBREED |
| 08:12.03 | NeoBREED | jeez//// |
| 08:12.07 | buu | Try again! |
| 08:12.10 | NeoBREED | man... just cause I'm asian isn't it |
| 08:12.13 | buu | Yes! |
| 08:12.18 | NeoBREED | darn it |
| 08:12.18 | deadcat | NeoBREED: HAHAHAH. |
| 08:12.20 | NeoBREED | sorry |
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| 08:13.08 | NeoBREED | hm |
| 08:13.19 | NeoBREED | where to get a quick video clip.... hm |
| 08:13.23 | NeoBREED | ebaumsworld |
| 08:13.34 | eXoDuS | teeniemovies.com |
| 08:13.35 | NeoBREED | or perhaps I should treat myself to a porn clip |
| 08:13.35 | deadcat | NeoBREED: freesex.com |
| 08:13.40 | buu | haha |
| 08:13.40 | NeoBREED | ... no no.... |
| 08:13.43 | NeoBREED | yes yes. |
| 08:13.47 | NeoBREED | too tempted |
| 08:13.50 | NeoBREED | gosh darn |
| 08:13.51 | eXoDuS | haha |
| 08:14.10 | deadcat | what other clips are there on the net besides porn clips anyway |
| 08:14.21 | buu | deadcat: Silly dancing fat kids. |
| 08:14.30 | deadcat | buu: never seen that (= |
| 08:14.33 | NeoBREED | liek that NumaNuma guy? |
| 08:14.34 | NeoBREED | haha |
| 08:14.41 | NeoBREED | you gotta see that guy |
| 08:14.50 | NeoBREED | ebaumsworld got some stupid stuff haha |
| 08:15.01 | deadcat | NeoBREED: dont spam |
| 08:15.08 | NeoBREED | hey hey |
| 08:15.15 | NeoBREED | I'm not spamming at all |
| 08:15.17 | NeoBREED | seesh |
| 08:15.18 | sepski | deadcat, http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=hornguy.wmv |
| 08:15.22 | NeoBREED | just a suggestion |
| 08:15.27 | deadcat | sepski: no thanks |
| 08:15.31 | jm_ | NeoBREED: /msg dpkg enter |
| 08:15.41 | deadcat | jm_: its ok. hes asian (= |
| 08:15.56 | jm_ | deadcat: doesn't seem to be, they're usually very polite ;) |
| 08:16.00 | NeoBREED | jm_, touche'. |
| 08:16.04 | deadcat | jm_: HAHAHAH |
| 08:16.27 | deadcat | jm_: thats not true at all (= |
| 08:16.34 | jm_ | deadcat: the ones we work with are |
| 08:16.45 | deadcat | jm_: HAHAHAH. those are pansies |
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| 08:18.47 | NeoBREED | New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Plese supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf). ? |
| 08:19.27 | jm_ | did you try installing mplayer-fonts? |
| 08:19.56 | deadcat | jm_: i can tell hes asian, cus hes complaining (= HAHHA |
| 08:20.11 | NeoBREED | oh... sigh man someday.... some day I will be a bit less like an idiot... forgive me master jedies |
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| 08:20.25 | deadcat | NeoBREED: call me boris |
| 08:20.43 | jm_ | deadcat: yeah, they seem to find all these obscure bugs and can really nitpick about them |
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| 08:21.17 | NeoBREED | deadcat, like in Chuck Noris.... exept mispelled? |
| 08:21.25 | NeoBREED | no? okay.... it's fair guess |
| 08:21.33 | deadcat | NeoBREED: what the hell? |
| 08:22.25 | NeoBREED | deadcat, look man... it's freakin' 4 in the morning. I haven't slept for a day since I've been hooked onto this Debian thing |
| 08:22.43 | nullbit | i'm having trouble getting applications on my remote server to launch in X on my local system |
| 08:22.53 | nullbit | i've tried using the -X switch |
| 08:22.54 | jm_ | what trouble? |
| 08:23.00 | Gumby | does anyone here have experience with bandwidth throttling? and what might you use to do it. Something that is less than rocket science would be nice |
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| 08:23.02 | nullbit | doesn't work at all |
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| 08:23.12 | deadcat | NeoBREED: complain again i will force you to work for minimun wage (= |
| 08:23.20 | jm_ | Gumby: apt-get install wondershaper, or read Advanced routing howto |
| 08:23.23 | jm_ | nullbit: more details |
| 08:23.24 | nullbit | when i launch emacs, it launches within the ssh client window |
| 08:23.32 | deadcat | nullbit: /etc/ssh/sshd_config. enable forwarding |
| 08:23.34 | jm_ | nullbit: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 08:23.36 | bucky | deadcat.. you're not at your desk ;) |
| 08:23.39 | NeoBREED | deadcat, too bad... already doing that, my friend. |
| 08:23.41 | nullbit | i enabled forwarding |
| 08:23.44 | nullbit | that didn't work either |
| 08:23.53 | lopi | is debian easy to use? |
| 08:23.54 | jm_ | you need to enable it both on client and on server |
| 08:24.07 | nullbit | jm_ let me try that |
| 08:24.13 | deadcat | bucky: dont get it (= |
| 08:24.18 | jm_ | you'll see that it works when ssh will set DISPLAY variable |
| 08:24.22 | NeoBREED | lopi: it depends |
| 08:24.24 | spo0nman | [OT]hmm, does anyone has a recomendation for a sub $200 digicam? |
| 08:24.25 | deadcat | my webcam dont work |
| 08:24.26 | bucky | the picture is always the same |
| 08:24.27 | jm_ | nullbit: read "/msg dpkg sshx" - especially the bit about xauth |
| 08:24.42 | nullbit | ok |
| 08:24.44 | deadcat | bucky: 2.6.11 dont have pwc driver no more )= |
| 08:24.51 | bucky | right |
| 08:25.12 | NeoBREED | spo0nman, go with Canon or Nikon... I bought a Canon SD110 for me g/f it was really nice... |
| 08:25.23 | deadcat | bucky: which is now the best webcam driver? supports motion as well |
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| 08:25.27 | NeoBREED | should be much cheaper now... under 200 hopefully |
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| 08:26.06 | bucky | deadcat, the pwc or are you asking if there is another one |
| 08:26.14 | nagual_ | Advanced @debhelper |
| 08:26.20 | nagual_ | mispaste |
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| 08:26.30 | spo0nman | NeoBREED, hmm let me read a review. thanks :) |
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| 08:26.37 | deadcat | bucky: i am thinking the v511 or something might be good but dont konw. only used pwc |
| 08:26.46 | bucky | i dont' know either |
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| 08:27.15 | deadcat | bucky: used to use the pwc cam for motion detection. now NOTHING |
| 08:27.23 | bucky | right |
| 08:27.24 | netbrain | how can i set the gnome filebrowser to not open folders in a new window? |
| 08:27.38 | deadcat | netbrain: click around and look for it |
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| 08:28.12 | deadcat | NeoBREED: DC? |
| 08:28.13 | Gumby | jm_: does this "wondershaper" throttle via IP? I am looking to basically cap a LAN users network speed via the gateway |
| 08:28.28 | NeoBREED | deadcat, DC? |
| 08:28.33 | deadcat | washington dc |
| 08:28.48 | zorton | Gumby: upstream or downstream :) |
| 08:28.56 | Gumby | zorton: both :) |
| 08:28.58 | zorton | Gumby: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/ADSL-Bandwidth-Management-HOWTO/implementation.html |
| 08:29.02 | jm_ | Gumby: no, it's pretty simple - you'll have to look at something else for that - there are some examples in Advanced routing howto |
| 08:29.25 | zorton | http://lartc.org/ |
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| 08:29.45 | Gumby | zorton: will read and see if I can wrap my head around it. thx |
| 08:29.45 | jm_ | ahh this one is much more advanced, has 7 classes |
| 08:29.46 | NeoBREED | when you're in ssh at a site |
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| 08:29.54 | nullbit | on the commandline |
| 08:29.57 | NeoBREED | how do you use ftp to get file? |
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| 08:29.59 | zorton | Gumby: start with teh lartc.org first |
| 08:30.05 | deadcat | NeoBREED: type ftp |
| 08:30.05 | WorkerII | Will dpkg leave a file with errors somewhere? (Maybe I should ask this in #Debian?) |
| 08:30.11 | zorton | Gumby: then when your brain starts to hurt, read the adsl howto :) |
| 08:30.13 | jm_ | nullbit: in your IRC client ;) |
| 08:30.23 | deadcat | WorkerII: ya. try #debian |
| 08:30.38 | NeoBREED | deadcat, it says not connected when I type get |
| 08:30.38 | WorkerII | s/\(.*\)// |
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| 08:30.49 | WorkerII | deadcat: Right ...!? |
| 08:30.54 | PumpkinPie | how do I list all the child processes of apache ? |
| 08:31.01 | WorkerII | Will dpkg leave a file with errors somewhere? |
| 08:31.08 | zorton | is patch-o-matic-ng packaged? can it play nice with make-kpkg? |
| 08:31.13 | WorkerII | (When you install a faulty package) |
| 08:31.18 | deadcat | PumpkinPie: pstree |
| 08:31.29 | PumpkinPie | thx |
| 08:31.41 | WorkerII | (Maybe I should ask this in the #debian for developers?) |
| 08:32.14 | WorkerII | s/#/secret #/ |
| 08:32.20 | diomedes | how can i ban a mac address from getting a dhcp lease? |
| 08:32.34 | deadcat | WorkerII: what the fuck you doing? make sure you typing in the right channel |
| 08:32.36 | WorkerII | diomedes: Cut its cable would be most effect. |
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| 08:32.52 | WorkerII | deadcat: You're quite agile for a dead cat! |
| 08:32.57 | diomedes | workerll necxt option |
| 08:33.11 | deadcat | diomedes: /etc/dhcp*/dhcpd.conf dont have option? just give them a fake ip (= |
| 08:33.13 | PumpkinPie | every time apache accesses a file it creates another process.. how can I view these? |
| 08:33.16 | deadcat | diomedes: on diff network HAHAH |
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| 08:33.25 | deadcat | WorkerII: amen (= |
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| 08:34.04 | netbrain | is there a program that can unpack rar files over network (nautilus,samba) in gnome environment? |
| 08:34.12 | diomedes | deadcat i need them on the same network, i have 5 thin clients that need to boot off a particalar dhcp server, but they are getting IPs off the other one, so I want to ban them from it |
| 08:34.17 | deadcat | netbrain: unrar |
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| 08:34.39 | netbrain | is there a gtk version? |
| 08:34.46 | deadcat | diomedes: assign dhcp ip to mac |
| 08:35.03 | deadcat | netbrain: wine+rar from windows |
| 08:35.06 | NeoBREED | Mplayer(loading a wmv file): Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound |
| 08:35.10 | netbrain | hehe |
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| 08:35.18 | deadcat | NeoBREED: NO SOUND |
| 08:35.20 | nullbit | jm_, when I " echo $DISPLAY" on my remote server, nothing is displayed. And setting forwarding in the config file on both systems doesn't get X to work remotely either. |
| 08:35.23 | NeoBREED | yeah |
| 08:35.25 | br3tt0 | anyone used samba3 *.deb files from samba.org? |
| 08:35.31 | NeoBREED | what to do... |
| 08:35.32 | deadcat | NeoBREED: ya. problem solved |
| 08:35.42 | deadcat | NeoBREED: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 08:35.55 | deadcat | br3tt0: doubt it |
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| 08:36.26 | NeoBREED | deadcat, what would that line do? |
| 08:36.36 | deadcat | NeoBREED: find out |
| 08:36.41 | br3tt0 | anyone used samba3 *.deb files from samba.org? |
| 08:36.49 | deadcat | br3tt0: doubt it |
| 08:36.53 | WorkerII | NeoBREED: Turn your speakers up frist. |
| 08:37.00 | deadcat | NeoBREED: ya. UPUPUP |
| 08:37.04 | WorkerII | s/ri/i/ |
| 08:37.07 | br3tt0 | need to know wheather it compiled with ADS support |
| 08:37.07 | deadcat | else you dont get the effect |
| 08:37.09 | NeoBREED | sigh |
| 08:37.12 | NeoBREED | *sigh |
| 08:37.30 | jm_ | nullbit: did you read about xauth? |
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| 08:38.05 | NeoBREED | come on guys.... I need a little help here... no humiliation please... this is not one of those sex scene.... it's a place where the strong laugh a litle bit and then help the weaker fellows... and THEN they laugh again.... not during |
| 08:38.08 | nullbit | yeah.. wasn't much to read... |
| 08:38.20 | deadcat | NeoBREED: do what we say |
| 08:38.22 | br3tt0 | quit |
| 08:38.58 | NeoBREED | deadcat, it still says no sound on the Mplayer |
| 08:39.13 | deadcat | NeoBREED: do you have sound before mplayer? |
| 08:39.28 | NeoBREED | I used to |
| 08:39.31 | NeoBREED | gosh darn it |
| 08:39.35 | NeoBREED | what the hell happened?? |
| 08:39.38 | deadcat | NeoBREED: fuser -v /dev/dsp |
| 08:40.23 | NeoBREED | what happened? I can't play sound anymore |
| 08:40.29 | deadcat | NeoBREED: i bet you have a crappy soundcard. close your xmms |
| 08:40.30 | sml | is deadcat greycat ? |
| 08:40.40 | deadcat | sml: no. grey != dead |
| 08:40.47 | sml | k. |
| 08:40.51 | jm_ | nulltank: huh? it's a fucking important detail |
| 08:40.57 | jm_ | nullbit ^^^^^ |
| 08:41.04 | deadcat | sml: hes nice i am mean (= |
| 08:41.22 | deadcat | well. nicer than me |
| 08:41.24 | NeoBREED | deadcat, OF COURSE... it's a freakin' Thinkpad 600.... cs4232 card.... I've tried for half a year.... just got OSS and it worked for a few hours... now it's not working anymore.... DAMN DAMN DMAN |
| 08:41.38 | deadcat | NeoBREED: fuser -v /dev/dsp dammit |
| 08:41.44 | NeoBREED | I DID |
| 08:41.47 | deadcat | NeoBREED: listen... call yourself asian |
| 08:42.03 | deadcat | NeoBREED: then whats the output? |
| 08:42.29 | NeoBREED | deadcat, I am asian god darn it... no need to call... it's not like any white men are going to think I'm white... maybe Latino ... but never white |
| 08:42.45 | NeoBREED | /dev/dsp root 6744 f.... cat |
| 08:42.47 | deadcat | NeoBREED: put the weed down |
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| 08:43.13 | deadcat | NeoBREED: cancel the cat command. then fuser again |
| 08:43.25 | NeoBREED | how do I cancel the cat command? |
| 08:43.26 | deadcat | and turn your speaker up |
| 08:43.30 | deadcat | control C |
| 08:43.54 | deadcat | 1/2 year and you dont know how to cancel something? |
| 08:45.01 | _dirk | ctrl c |
| 08:45.10 | NeoBREED | deadcat, I just did the command again... nothing showed up |
| 08:45.20 | _dirk | very difficult to printout a manual or something |
| 08:45.27 | _dirk | asking is much easier |
| 08:45.37 | _dirk | never heard about RTFM? |
| 08:45.39 | deadcat | NeoBREED: ok. turn the speaker up and run the cat command again.. |
| 08:45.43 | NeoBREED | hmm... the sound worked again... |
| 08:45.50 | NeoBREED | come on now |
| 08:46.05 | deadcat | NeoBREED: because your crappy card can only play 1 sound at a time. |
| 08:46.05 | NeoBREED | that cat command is the reason why my sound went out in the beginning |
| 08:46.10 | NeoBREED | yeah |
| 08:46.20 | deadcat | same with my ibook. |
| 08:46.55 | NeoBREED | deadcat, yeah... if that cat command was suppose to be a prank.... I got it... it was surprising... I wet my pants... now, help me fix the darn problem |
| 08:47.11 | deadcat | NeoBREED: you go clean up first. |
| 08:47.28 | deadcat | and not a prank. its the best way to test sound. |
| 08:47.33 | NeoBREED | deadcat, you mean like take a shower? |
| 08:47.40 | NeoBREED | LOL |
| 08:47.46 | NeoBREED | alright alright kidding |
| 08:47.47 | PerfDave | NeoBREED: ffs, that cat command is the standard way of diagnosing sound problems. Grow up. |
| 08:47.47 | deadcat | NeoBREED: what ever you do to clean your piss |
| 08:48.00 | NeoBREED | how? |
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| 08:48.19 | deadcat | if its a prank i would tell you to rm -rf / or come over and beat the shit out of you. |
| 08:48.20 | NeoBREED | PerfDave, forgive the young and the morons... |
| 08:48.34 | NeoBREED | LOL..... yeah.... beating.. |
| 08:48.38 | deadcat | i say lynch him |
| 08:48.44 | nullbit | jm_, have xauth on both systems, but i don't know what is meant by "... in xbase-client". |
| 08:48.47 | NeoBREED | I can play sound with xmms |
| 08:48.59 | deadcat | close xmms, then play mplayer again |
| 08:49.01 | NeoBREED | but it seems like mplayer isn't working iwth it |
| 08:49.05 | NeoBREED | I did |
| 08:49.07 | NeoBREED | didn't work |
| 08:49.09 | _dirk | damn... openoffice.org beta won't install |
| 08:49.18 | _dirk | so i send a bugrepot |
| 08:49.20 | deadcat | NeoBREED: try a real porno clip this time |
| 08:49.22 | _dirk | bugreport |
| 08:49.43 | jm_ | nullbit: doesn't matter, make sure it's in path |
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| 08:50.40 | nullbit | the only thing i see in path related to this is "/usr/bin/X11" |
| 08:51.14 | NeoBREED | where's a good place to get a high quality porn clip? |
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| 08:51.25 | deadcat | NeoBREED: 127.0.0.1 |
| 08:51.26 | caphuso | not here |
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| 08:51.47 | nullbit | jm_: how do I put xauth in the path ? |
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| 08:52.46 | deadcat | i am gone in 7min |
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| 08:53.21 | caphuso | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.24 | caphuso | damn! |
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| 08:53.27 | NeoBREED | deadcat, the sound isn't working.... but I was able to see a good porn clip yes |
| 08:53.30 | deadcat | caphuso: HHAHAH |
| 08:53.43 | caphuso | deadcat: :) |
| 08:53.55 | deadcat | NeoBREED: what the erro message say? |
| 08:54.14 | jm_ | nullbit: are both systems Debian? |
| 08:54.15 | deadcat | NeoBREED: you might need to config mplayer not to use alsa |
| 08:54.21 | NeoBREED | Could not ope/initialize audio device -> no sound |
| 08:54.27 | NeoBREED | yeah |
| 08:54.35 | NeoBREED | that sounds about right.... |
| 08:54.44 | deadcat | somebody lynch NeoBREED . the bots arent working |
| 08:54.45 | NeoBREED | now how will I be able to do that? |
| 08:54.52 | nullbit | jm_: no, remote is debian (sarge). local is macosx |
| 08:54.54 | deadcat | NeoBREED: gmplayer |
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| 08:55.20 | jm_ | nullbit: well it's remote that matters for xauth, and it should be in path there, as long as you have it on the system |
| 08:55.25 | deadcat | nullbit: macosx is really bad.. i should know (= |
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| 08:55.51 | deadcat | caphuso: trying to abuse your power eh? |
| 08:56.25 | caphuso | deadcat: i don't need to try :) |
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| 08:56.32 | deadcat | HAAHHA |
| 08:56.35 | deadcat | )= |
| 08:57.07 | NeoBREED | deadcat, you're right.... mplayer did initialize sound using alsa.... honestly, I don't know how to go about fixing the thing to make it ask for oss or just ignore alsa |
| 08:57.39 | deadcat | NeoBREED: gmplayer and click on config.. dammit LISENTEN |
| 08:57.45 | caphuso | NeoBREED: echo ao=oss,alsa >> ~/.mplayer/config |
| 08:58.12 | caphuso | on a second thought, ao=alsa,oss is probably the better choice |
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| 08:58.24 | netbrain | isnt there a gui pkg util for gnome? |
| 08:58.53 | deadcat | NeoBREED: synaptic |
| 08:59.19 | directhex|work | better than either is sdl:alsa,sdl:oss |
| 08:59.26 | nullbit | jm_: setenv is not recognized on my debian system. how else can i set the path |
| 08:59.30 | NeoBREED | oh okay..... I could hear the moan this time |
| 08:59.38 | NeoBREED | it was.. pleasurable. |
| 08:59.40 | directhex|work | seing as mplayer's alsa output doesn't work with dmix, but sdl's does |
| 08:59.45 | deadcat | caphuso: kick me in 20 sec (= |
| 08:59.57 | NeoBREED | faggadellic |
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| 09:00.40 | jm_ | nullbit: I have already told you it's OK on Debian, you can confirm this by enabling debugging for sshd on it, try running ssh -X on macos |
| 09:00.45 | deadcat | )= |
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| 09:01.17 | jethro | moin #debian |
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| 09:02.16 | nullbit | jm_: emacs still opens within ssh window |
| 09:02.31 | netbrain | anyone know of a gui program to open rar files and such in gnome? |
| 09:02.41 | jm_ | nullbit: is DISPLAY variable set? |
| 09:03.02 | nullbit | it's blank |
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| 09:03.08 | jm_ | then it's not working ;) |
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| 09:06.03 | nullbit | jm_: how do I get it to work? |
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| 09:10.40 | tarzeau | bob2: can you sponsor me now? |
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| 09:10.49 | Snifffurt | hi |
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| 09:11.27 | lvdz | hi |
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| 09:12.22 | jm_ | nullbit: well I think you should proceed with debugging sshd at this point |
| 09:13.03 | nullbit | on the debian system ? |
| 09:13.06 | Snifffurt | I have just installed Sarge on a old box yesterday. The problem is that the system freezes totaly sometims. My first guess was that the memory has some faults. But 15Hours of memtest86 didn't discover any fault in the RAM. So what else could it bee? |
| 09:13.09 | jm_ | yup |
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| 09:13.38 | nullbit | jm_: i have no idea how to debug sshd |
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| 09:14.09 | jm_ | nullbit: you stop it, then start it by hand with sshd -D -d (add more -d switches for more debugging) |
| 09:14.21 | jm_ | obviously make sure you can still access the box if sshd is down |
| 09:14.35 | Snifffurt | could it be the Video Card? or the Driver for the Video Card? |
| 09:14.49 | nullbit | jm_: alright, thanks. |
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| 09:14.56 | directhex|work | anything in kern.log? |
| 09:14.56 | _dirk | did you interrupt memtes Snifffurt ? |
| 09:15.05 | Snifffurt | _dirk: no |
| 09:15.12 | _dirk | mmm |
| 09:15.21 | Snifffurt | _dirk: I just left it running over the night |
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| 09:15.34 | _dirk | why don't you install with woody? |
| 09:15.42 | _dirk | and than upgrade to sarge |
| 09:16.17 | Snifffurt | So you think this would solve it? |
| 09:16.27 | _dirk | and use the 2.4 kernel |
| 09:16.31 | _dirk | not the 2.6 |
| 09:16.39 | s-toned | is there a keyboard-shortcut managing tool which can handle emacs-like multiple shortcuts like ctrl-k,x ? xbindkeys can't, I think |
| 09:16.44 | Snifffurt | I allready have the 2.4.x kernel |
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| 09:16.56 | _dirk | try than the 2.6 kernel ;) |
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| 09:17.11 | jm_ | s-toned: why would you do that? |
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| 09:17.51 | Snifffurt | _dirk: ok, I'll try...it |
| 09:17.56 | trym | if I want to import svn files from a directory.. how will I format the url..when the dir its /tmp/over ? |
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| 09:18.15 | directhex|work | god, the people behind this closedsoureware are absolute morons. |
| 09:18.19 | Snifffurt | _dirk: thx |
| 09:18.20 | _dirk | Snifffurt is it a selfcompiled kernel? |
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| 09:18.29 | Snifffurt | _dirk: no, not jet |
| 09:18.30 | F0cusRite | hi all. I recently had a powerfail screw up some files on disk. Is there a tool to check installed files against the packages' files and replace damaged/missing ones? |
| 09:18.57 | _dirk | have you the right image for the right arctecture? |
| 09:19.07 | Snifffurt | _dirk: yes |
| 09:19.11 | _dirk | strange |
| 09:19.21 | s-toned | jm_: because I can multiply the number of shortcuts (if running out) and for make 'blocks' of shortcuts |
| 09:19.21 | _dirk | maybe bad hardware |
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| 09:19.43 | _dirk | same probs, whit exploded elcos on mobo |
| 09:19.55 | _dirk | on MSI K7T |
| 09:20.05 | PunkZY_work | which user runs /etc/X11/Xsession? |
| 09:20.16 | Snifffurt | _dirk: I think I would not be able to install it with a image from another archidecture |
| 09:20.42 | jm_ | s-toned: well you could use tools that send keyboard events |
| 09:20.44 | Snifffurt | _dirk: the Videocard could be a possible source |
| 09:20.47 | tosh| | any debian-ish way of hooking up an external monitor to my laptop so I can use a double desktop? |
| 09:20.58 | quitte | is here a way to create a debian system from a handful of debs? |
| 09:21.01 | _dirk | tty works? |
| 09:21.03 | Snifffurt | because I think the other components had been running propperly bevore |
| 09:21.08 | petemc | tosh|: what graphics card? |
| 09:21.15 | Snifffurt | I't just froze in X |
| 09:21.29 | streuner | quitte: LFS does not work? |
| 09:21.32 | s-toned | jm_: e.g. I could start firefox, opera, and konqueror with ctrl+alt+b,f ctrl+alt+b,o ctrl+alt+b,k |
| 09:21.34 | _dirk | yeah than dpkg-reconfigure xwinodws |
| 09:21.45 | quitte | streuner: huh? |
| 09:21.55 | Snifffurt | _dirk: ok, thx allot |
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| 09:22.07 | jm_ | s-toned: that's sick ;) |
| 09:22.21 | streuner | quitte: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 09:22.36 | streuner | !rube goldberg install |
| 09:22.37 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 09:22.39 | s-toned | jm_: maybe, what do you use to start programs?? |
| 09:22.43 | quitte | streuner: the problem is: i made a lot of debs for sh3 but have only tested them in their safe build environment. i want to try them on their own |
| 09:22.56 | tosh| | petemc a crappy one :( Intel Corp. 82852/855GM |
| 09:23.18 | jm_ | s-toned: keyboard or my shell |
| 09:23.26 | tarzeau | quitte: you'll revive the debian port of sh3? |
| 09:23.32 | tosh| | anyone running sarge with vmware 4.0.5? if I maximize the vmware window I get random lockups of my entire system... happens once every 2 days or so |
| 09:23.40 | quitte | streuner: debootstrap is not an option as i have no proper release file in the repository. and there is no sh3 installer |
| 09:23.48 | petemc | tosh|: i810switch |
| 09:23.51 | quitte | tarzeau: yes. i told you before,didn'T i |
| 09:24.02 | tarzeau | quitte: yeah i remember, some time ago |
| 09:24.10 | _dirk | o_O openoffice beta won't install |
| 09:24.14 | petemc | tosh|: you'll be limited with that tho, only able to clone the laptop screen |
| 09:24.28 | s-toned | jm_: keyboard means shortcuts? |
| 09:24.55 | streuner | _dirk: what's the sources.line? |
| 09:25.07 | quitte | tarzeau: got an idea how to make a minimal debian root? |
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| 09:25.31 | _dirk | hi streuner, are rpms converted with alien |
| 09:25.35 | tarzeau | quitte: using debootstrap ? or pbuilder ? |
| 09:25.37 | jm_ | s-toned: yes |
| 09:25.40 | directhex|work | tosh|, vmware 5 works perfectly |
| 09:25.40 | s-toned | khotkeys can handle multiple shortcuts, but that means kde |
| 09:25.45 | tosh| | directhex|work ill check it out |
| 09:25.51 | tosh| | petemc ill check it out, thnx |
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| 09:26.43 | incorrect | which is the best ftpd to use, security being the important part |
| 09:26.51 | tosh| | vsftpd |
| 09:26.56 | incorrect | ty |
| 09:27.17 | CaT_MaNz | Hello. I want to know some better way to fix my debian... when I boot, I see some errors and Kernel panic |
| 09:27.27 | tosh| | petemc it works, only clones the desktop like you said, and the screen is all flickerly... must be a different syncrate |
| 09:27.41 | _dirk | install a kernel-image CaT_MaNz |
| 09:27.43 | petemc | tosh|: maybe, it works fine for me |
| 09:27.44 | quitte | tarzeau: pbuilder uses debootstrap. isn'T there a way to do manually whatever debootstrap does? |
| 09:27.45 | CaT_MaNz | the errors are: |
| 09:28.00 | _dirk | and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 09:28.13 | _dirk | no flood please CaT_MaNz |
| 09:28.28 | CaT_MaNz | ??? |
| 09:28.50 | tarzeau | quitte: i guess so :) |
| 09:28.53 | tarzeau | utsl |
| 09:28.56 | tarzeau | !utsl |
| 09:28.56 | dpkg | [utsl] Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
| 09:29.08 | s-toned | jm_: apt-cache search keyboard events doesn't show much; could you, perhaps, recommend one (some)? |
| 09:29.13 | CaT_MaNz | _dirk dont help me, while you know my problem |
| 09:29.29 | CaT_MaNz | i dont see anymore my system partition |
| 09:29.32 | resiak | CaT_MaNz: Don't paste in here. You will be automatically kicked. |
| 09:29.50 | CaT_MaNz | resiak: I know |
| 09:29.52 | PumpkinPie | lets all smoke weed on hitler's birthday |
| 09:29.55 | PumpkinPie | ingenious |
| 09:30.08 | Snifffurt | _dirk: but dpkg-reconfigure syes that xwindows is not installed? |
| 09:30.11 | jm_ | s-toned: ahh for sending them? xnee, but thinking about it - I don't know if it will really help you |
| 09:30.17 | CaT_MaNz | I want to know .. how can I fix my brocken partition |
| 09:30.17 | _dirk | he he |
| 09:30.19 | jm_ | I guess not |
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| 09:30.34 | CaT_MaNz | my debian was work |
| 09:30.45 | s-toned | jm_: thanks anyway |
| 09:30.45 | CaT_MaNz | but now .. they dont work |
| 09:30.47 | resiak | CaT_MaNz: How did it break, what were you doing, what are the symptoms? And please don't hit enter after every 5 words. |
| 09:30.50 | resiak | !don't work |
| 09:30.51 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 09:31.03 | _dirk | apt-get install x-windows-system Snifffurt |
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| 09:31.11 | _dirk | apt-get install x-window-system Snifffurt |
| 09:31.38 | Snifffurt | _dirk: ? But how could X be running on my comp, if it wasnt installed?? |
| 09:31.42 | CaT_MaNz | I dont know. The computer works, then I reboot the system and computer don`t work. |
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| 09:31.52 | resiak | Snifffurt: What is the dpkg-reconfigure command you're running? |
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| 09:32.07 | CaT_MaNz | And I see on screen mesage: |
| 09:32.24 | Snifffurt | resiak: exactli what _dirk told me to "dpkg-reconfigure xwindows" |
| 09:32.27 | resiak | !drxx Snifffurt |
| 09:32.29 | dpkg | Snifffurt: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 09:32.31 | resiak | Snifffurt: He told you wrong. |
| 09:32.48 | Guerin | grrr |
| 09:32.53 | resiak | Guerrrrrrrin! |
| 09:32.56 | Snifffurt | resiak: ic... thx |
| 09:32.57 | CaT_MaNz | EXT2-fs: ide(3,2): couldn`t mount becauuse of insupported optional features [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 16, check...... |
| 09:33.06 | Guerin | still getting my error: 302 Found error when doing apt-get update |
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| 09:33.56 | CaT_MaNz | This computer was works .. 2 mount.. and I have no problems with him |
| 09:34.37 | resiak | CaT_MaNz: Have you recently installed a new kernel, or repartitioned? And tell me you didn't make / a FAT partition... |
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| 09:34.57 | CaT_MaNz | no |
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| 09:35.07 | CaT_MaNz | only reboot |
| 09:35.11 | _dirk | yo |
| 09:35.13 | CaT_MaNz | nothing else |
| 09:35.17 | resiak | !tell CaT_MaNz -about enter. |
| 09:35.51 | _dirk | ehm sniffurt |
| 09:35.51 | CaT_MaNz | sorry :-) I will try to write more characters at 1 line |
| 09:35.59 | _dirk | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 does the trick |
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| 09:36.46 | resiak | CaT_MaNz: Have you googled on that error? |
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| 09:37.55 | feda | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:37.59 | CaT_MaNz | yes. look resiak. I just want to know, some way to fix my ext3 system partition |
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| 09:38.30 | resiak | CaT_MaNz: Sure, and I don't know what to suggest apart from googling on the error. |
| 09:38.41 | resiak | CaT_MaNz: Have you tried booting from a livecd and running fsck on your / partition? |
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| 09:38.47 | Guerin | yeah |
| 09:38.54 | NeoBREED | I'm doing this: "tar xvfj Azureus_***.GTK.tar.bz2" but it says no succh file or direcotry even though the file is there |
| 09:38.58 | Guerin | fsck should at least tell you what the problem is |
| 09:39.15 | Guerin | NeoBREED: tab completion |
| 09:39.35 | NeoBREED | ? |
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| 09:39.48 | resiak | NeoBREED: Why have you not just performed apt-get install azureus anyway? |
| 09:39.56 | NeoBREED | it's not there |
| 09:39.56 | Guerin | because he's stupid |
| 09:40.04 | Guerin | it's in contrib |
| 09:40.04 | kombi | question: why can a user that is not in a group still read a 740 file? |
| 09:40.07 | Guerin | because it needs java |
| 09:40.08 | CaT_MaNz | resiak: yes. I was tryed. first I try to rescue root=/dev/hda1 3.. and the same error I see |
| 09:40.40 | CaT_MaNz | something like "Invalid session number or type of track" |
| 09:40.45 | kombi | he is not in /etc/group |
| 09:40.46 | resiak | CaT_MaNz: What did fsck tell you about /dev/hda1? |
| 09:40.47 | NeoBREED | Guerin: what to do? |
| 09:40.48 | Guerin | CaT_MaNz: just boot a livecd and run fsck /dev/hda1 as root |
| 09:40.52 | NeoBREED | I'm new |
| 09:40.58 | resiak | !tell NeoBREED -about java |
| 09:41.01 | resiak | !tell NeoBREED -about install java |
| 09:41.05 | Guerin | NeoBREED: add 'contrib' to your sources.list line |
| 09:41.30 | CaT_MaNz | resiak: Okay, I will try with fsck |
| 09:41.48 | Guerin | ... |
| 09:41.48 | resiak | CaT_MaNz: fsck is always a good idea. |
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| 09:42.08 | resiak | Guerin: ??? |
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| 09:42.22 | NeoBREED | ... sorry. "contrib" is there a link that I enter in... like: deb asfdsaf? |
| 09:42.23 | Guerin | resiak: my sentiments exactly |
| 09:42.36 | resiak | Guerin: At me or at the other? |
| 09:42.41 | Guerin | NeoBREED: your main sources.list line- add 'contrib' to the end of it |
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| 09:43.02 | Guerin | resiak: not you... |
| 09:43.33 | resiak | NeoBREED: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and append contrib to the end of lines that end with "main". |
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| 09:43.53 | resiak | Guerin: I was wondering whether you were about to inform me that I had just suggested the data integrity equivalent of ... ;) |
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| 09:44.26 | Guerin | resiak: haha |
| 09:44.47 | NeoBREED | resiak, to all or just a specific one? |
| 09:44.59 | Guerin | NeoBREED: read again |
| 09:45.08 | Guerin | all the information you need is there |
| 09:45.09 | directhex|work | !tell NeoBREED about non-free sources |
| 09:45.14 | resiak | Guerin: ...before of course revealing that you have suggested exactly the same thing and were thinking that I had said fsck -a |
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| 09:46.34 | Trewas | hmm, did someone mention receiving free ubuntu cds without ordering? the university department here received 30 cds and no-one seems to know if anyone ordered them |
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| 09:46.52 | Guerin | resiak: lightning has not yet struck again |
| 09:46.58 | Guerin | i'm sure it will, given time :) |
| 09:47.24 | Guerin | Trewas: yeah, apparently they've been spamming LUGs etc. with them |
| 09:47.24 | resiak | Guerin: :) |
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| 09:50.12 | NeoBREED | how do I install java sdk? |
| 09:50.18 | resiak | !tell NeoBREED -about install java |
| 09:50.43 | Guerin | jesus |
| 09:50.54 | Guerin | !tell NeoBREED about context |
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| 09:52.40 | NeoBREED | jesus... sometimes... its tough when you just started out.... especially just for a day.... no need to be so fucking up and mighty about shit... I bet you started out just like this.... bbut you wouldn't understand what the fuck I'm talking about... since you think you're the shit |
| 09:52.41 | NeoBREED | fuck this |
| 09:52.43 | torc_ | hello, where can i find info about gcc sparc optimizations possible? |
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| 09:53.09 | NeoBREED | y'all are bunch of elitist assholes |
| 09:53.17 | jethro | indeed |
| 09:53.25 | resiak | NeoBREED: With all due respect, I did !tell NeoBREED -about java and !tell NeoBREED -about install java a while pack. |
| 09:53.26 | caphuso | torc_: "SPARC options" chapter in the gcc docs |
| 09:53.27 | jethro | ass with ears even |
| 09:53.59 | torc_ | caphuso: thanks, but should i try to optimize at all? |
| 09:54.12 | CaT_MaNz | I don`t have Live CD. I have first Debian CD. Can this helps me ? |
| 09:54.17 | Guerin | NeoBREED: bullshit. You'd been given exactly those factoids already. I'm not tearing you another one for not knowing, I'm tearing you another one for not READING the answers to the fucking questions you already asked and had answered |
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| 09:54.28 | caphuso | torc_: only if it's worth it |
| 09:54.38 | NeoBREED | whatever.... this is frustrating |
| 09:54.40 | torc_ | caphuso: the box is sluggish :/ |
| 09:54.50 | resiak | CaT_MaNz: Sure. Boot it up, then press Alt-F2 once the installer starts to get a console. BEWARE! The device names are in the devfs layout ONLY. |
| 09:55.29 | F0cusRite | Is there a tool to check installed files against the packages' files and replace damaged/missing ones? |
| 09:55.42 | gahan | is it possible to view movie in mplayer on TV and keep using kde on monitor ? |
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| 09:55.46 | caphuso | F0cusRite: debsums |
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| 09:57.00 | F0cusRite | caphuso: i mean against the files contained in the packaged rather than the .deb files - had a powerfail screw up some files on disk and (notably) I can't recompile a kernel |
| 09:57.20 | F0cusRite | unless debsums will do the files as well as the .deb? |
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| 10:00.08 | gahan | (11:59:19> <dpkg> [tvout] getting X on your tvout for nvidia ask nvidia tvout |
| 10:00.13 | gahan | does nvidia tvout give you anything? |
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| 10:00.32 | Guerin | !nvidia tvout |
| 10:00.36 | jm_ | gahan: no |
| 10:00.39 | Guerin | nope |
| 10:00.41 | caphuso | !tvout nvidia |
| 10:00.41 | dpkg | tvout nvidia is probably getting X on your tvout of your nvida card d you need to have the nvidia driver installed (ask nvidia) and read /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/ READMY and example script |
| 10:00.45 | jm_ | gahan: read the README |
| 10:00.49 | Guerin | google got me a couple hits the other day, though |
| 10:00.56 | Guerin | one was a gentoo wiki, but the principles should hold |
| 10:01.08 | gahan | is it possible to use kde on monitor and watch movie on tv at the same time ? |
| 10:01.16 | jm_ | yes |
| 10:02.03 | kombi | just added a user but he can't access via ftp, all others can. What might it be? |
| 10:02.13 | gahan | i got problems, when i start second X server my monitor goes off, and things show on Tv, when i use keyboard to switch to first X, it also switches on Tv, so i can use only 1 X at the asme time |
| 10:02.16 | resiak | kombi: Permissions. |
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| 10:02.20 | gahan | i dont have 2 keyboards:( |
| 10:02.32 | jm_ | gahan: read the README |
| 10:02.38 | kombi | resiak: on /home/username? |
| 10:02.51 | resiak | kombi: on whatever it is [s]he is trying to access. |
| 10:02.55 | gahan | i'll read it again,ok |
| 10:03.02 | resiak | kombi: Check that they are in the appropriate group, etc. |
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| 10:03.29 | kombi | resiak: those seem right, actually I get 530 'login incorrect' |
| 10:03.37 | torc_ | what does "Err http://http.at.debian.org sarge/main ed 0.2-20 (dsc) |
| 10:03.38 | torc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:03.42 | kombi | login is correct though |
| 10:03.54 | resiak | kombi: Check your ftp server's conf file? |
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| 10:04.39 | kombi | resiak: I only know of /etc/ftpchroot and /etc/ftpusers, both look ok |
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| 10:07.22 | Snifffurt | _dirk: yea, it seems that reconfiguring X solved the prob. Thx |
| 10:08.33 | resiak | So no thanks for the guy who told you the right command? :( |
| 10:09.36 | Snifffurt | resiak: of course not |
| 10:09.41 | resiak | :) |
| 10:09.45 | Snifffurt | resiak: for shore |
| 10:09.51 | Snifffurt | ;-) |
| 10:10.06 | drac | I'd like to see good howto/explanations of X modules, why they are loaded, what they are for.. If somebody has one of these in bookmarks.. google isn't very friendly to me today. |
| 10:10.09 | Snifffurt | he gave me the right hint and you the right command |
| 10:10.11 | Snifffurt | ;) |
| 10:10.28 | _dirk | cool Snifffurt :D |
| 10:10.32 | _dirk | you fixed |
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| 10:10.42 | Snifffurt | _dirk: seems so |
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| 10:13.13 | _dirk | so now i installing openoffice.org beta whith apt |
| 10:13.32 | EvanCarroll | How do i mount /dev/hda1 using the debian install cd's shell |
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| 10:13.42 | EvanCarroll | I need to use the install cd as a rescue disk |
| 10:14.00 | _dirk | type rescue before booting |
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| 10:14.22 | F0cusRite | evan do alt+f2 and hit enter to get to shell then do mount /dev/hda1 /target ... /target is now your hda1 |
| 10:14.51 | EvanCarroll | there is no /dev/hda1, it lists in /dev/ide/ and /dev/disks, but i cant use them as target for mount |
| 10:15.10 | EvanCarroll | directhex|work: rescue isn't a valid d-i option |
| 10:15.12 | jm_ | EvanCarroll: cat /proc/partitions |
| 10:15.17 | EvanCarroll | err that is to _dirk |
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| 10:16.10 | EvanCarroll | jm_: It lists hda1 |
| 10:16.11 | resiak | EvanCarroll: It's devfs |
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| 10:16.30 | fester420 | hello |
| 10:16.32 | F0cusRite | or type cfdisk /dev/hda and cfdisk will show partitions on that device |
| 10:16.40 | fester420 | i had some questions bout debain |
| 10:16.46 | Guerin | !debain |
| 10:16.47 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 10:16.49 | resiak | F0cusRite: /dev/hda does not exist in devfs |
| 10:16.50 | voyd | how do i install a local .deb file without apt updating package lists from remote repositories? |
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| 10:16.57 | Guerin | yoh_: dpkg -i |
| 10:17.01 | Guerin | bah |
| 10:17.09 | Guerin | voyd: ^^^ |
| 10:17.13 | voyd | ahh thanks |
| 10:17.16 | EvanCarroll | F0cusRite: that isn't even my problem: I know my partition is hda1, it won't let me mount it because there isn't a /dev/hda1 |
| 10:17.24 | _dirk | c'mon lost manuals? |
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| 10:17.38 | _dirk | man man is enough |
| 10:17.38 | resiak | EvanCarroll: Google for devfs device names |
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| 10:17.47 | fester420 | not cool |
| 10:17.54 | EvanCarroll | !google devfs device names |
| 10:17.55 | fester420 | i just had some questions |
| 10:17.56 | lanchow | Results for devfs device names on Google: |
| 10:17.56 | lanchow | http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/docs/<b>devfs</b>.html |
| 10:17.56 | lanchow | http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/ |
| 10:17.56 | lanchow | http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/d<b>names</b>.html |
| 10:17.56 | lanchow | -- |
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| 10:18.00 | dpkg | Google says devfs device names is at http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/docs/devfs.html or http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/dnamesdevfs.html or http://sg.torque.net/scsi/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/ch03s03.html or http://sg.torque.net/scsi/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/ch12.html or http://ldp.rtin.bz/HOWTO/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/dnamesdevfs.html |
| 10:18.09 | resiak | fester420: Well then _ask_ them! |
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| 10:18.22 | Guerin | !ask2ask |
| 10:18.22 | dpkg | One day, Kn00bie joined #debian, and asked, "Tell me, is it proper to ask first whether one should ask a question, or do ye not require such things?" One of the masters raised his hand, and a towering bot descended from the heavens and knocked Kn00bie to the ground, leaving a large wet spot. Lying there, head spinning, Kn00bie became Enlightened. |
| 10:18.25 | fester420 | will debian support my graphics card |
| 10:18.33 | mike | !seen Guerin |
| 10:18.34 | Guerin | fester420: depends. |
| 10:18.35 | dpkg | guerin is currently on #debian (21h 6m 21s). Has said a total of 92723 messages. Is idling for 12s |
| 10:18.37 | mike | lol |
| 10:18.39 | fester420 | its a nvisia |
| 10:18.42 | fester420 | nvidia |
| 10:18.45 | Guerin | fester420: yes. |
| 10:18.49 | fester420 | cool |
| 10:18.53 | fester420 | how about my lcde |
| 10:18.54 | _dirk | i'll quit |
| 10:19.01 | Guerin | wtf is a lcde?> |
| 10:19.05 | fester420 | lcd |
| 10:19.07 | resiak | fester420: Yes, it will. |
| 10:19.08 | Guerin | yes |
| 10:19.15 | fester420 | iam going debian now |
| 10:19.16 | Guerin | it works on computers, see |
| 10:19.19 | fester420 | heck yes |
| 10:19.28 | fester420 | thank you guys allso |
| 10:19.31 | resiak | "How about my toaster?" "No. For that you'll need NetBSD." |
| 10:19.33 | mike | Guerin: did you build the mailserver from scratch or did you use the prebuilt binary from apt-get? |
| 10:19.41 | fester420 | what cd's do i get |
| 10:19.47 | fester420 | there are like 7 of them |
| 10:19.51 | resiak | !d-i fester420 |
| 10:19.52 | dpkg | fester420, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 10:20.30 | fester420 | i currently use suse 9.3 |
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| 10:20.42 | Guerin | mike: prebuilt |
| 10:20.45 | resiak | fester420: Great. Go install Sarge. :) |
| 10:20.52 | fester420 | ok |
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| 10:20.55 | fester420 | =P |
| 10:21.02 | fester420 | i will be back |
| 10:21.06 | fester420 | with debian |
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| 10:21.19 | hellop | Can someone suggest an easy way to get install debian on a Win2k system with no CDROM? Would like to dual boot. |
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| 10:21.33 | fester420 | use a net install |
| 10:21.49 | hellop | fester420, works from Win2k? |
| 10:21.54 | fester420 | yes |
| 10:21.56 | resiak | hellop: There are bootable floppy disk images. |
| 10:22.00 | hellop | fester420, I have the net isntall cd. |
| 10:22.10 | fester420 | o |
| 10:22.10 | hellop | resiak, no floppy either, it's a Thinkpad 240 |
| 10:22.10 | Snifffurt | resiak: na, but it didn't help.... my PC froze again |
| 10:22.26 | resiak | hellop: Then you're a little screwed, unless you can netboot and set all that up? |
| 10:22.27 | fester420 | i dual boot win2k |
| 10:22.28 | streuner_ | !rube goldberg install |
| 10:22.28 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 10:22.29 | Snifffurt | resiak: now it worked just a lil longer |
| 10:22.32 | fester420 | on my server |
| 10:22.32 | eqdar | hellop, try to netboot |
| 10:22.47 | fester420 | i have like a blade |
| 10:22.53 | resiak | !tell fester420 -about enter |
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| 10:23.10 | fester420 | lol |
| 10:23.15 | hellop | eqdar, you mean pxe? hmm doubtfull, using 3com PCMCIA card. |
| 10:23.25 | Snifffurt | so what could it bee... I guess my Xconfig is all right now, and my memory is allright as well.... what else could make my screen freeze? |
| 10:23.32 | Ekaterin | I am having problems with NFS file locking on a client running kernel 2.6.11.7. When I reboot to 2.4.26, everything works fine. Any idea why? |
| 10:23.53 | streuner_ | hellop: do you have USB? |
| 10:24.10 | eqdar | ooops, forgot that those i386 bioses don't do netbooting... |
| 10:24.16 | peterS | Ekaterin: NFS is one of those things - the linux implementation is such that you always test operations when you change kernels. random bug, I suppose. |
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| 10:24.24 | eqdar | or am i wrong ? |
| 10:24.45 | eqdar | i meant bootp/dhcp + tftp |
| 10:24.53 | resiak | fester420: Why the fuck are you pasting an entire webpage at me in a /msg? |
| 10:24.55 | peterS | Ekaterin: you can attempt to work around it by not using TCP, or not using nfsv3 |
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| 10:25.15 | Guerin | nfs-user-server |
| 10:25.15 | fester420 | i have i586 |
| 10:25.17 | fester420 | i dint mean to |
| 10:25.19 | fester420 | iam sorry |
| 10:25.20 | peterS | ('man 8 mount' should, with any luck, tell about these options) |
| 10:25.21 | Ekaterin | peterS: I reported the bug ages ago against kernel 2.6.1 (http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1913) and eventually got a message that it was fixed, but it seems to have come back again. |
| 10:25.22 | resiak | !tell fester420 -about msg |
| 10:25.24 | resiak | !d-i fester420 |
| 10:25.25 | dpkg | fester420, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 10:25.33 | hellop | streuner_ USB, yes |
| 10:25.50 | hellop | The Rube Goldberg install, that's what I need! |
| 10:25.51 | resiak | fester420: Oh my, that i386 image looks tempting. |
| 10:25.52 | streuner_ | hellop: connect it to an USB-CDROM |
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| 10:26.16 | peterS | Ekaterin: oh, good deal. your guess is as good as ours, then. we're not kernel development experts, particularly. possibly someone on #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net might be of more help |
| 10:26.20 | resiak | fester420: Look at the link dpkg gave you. |
| 10:26.22 | mike | Guerin: where did u set up directory for all the virtual mail? |
| 10:26.26 | fester420 | iam |
| 10:26.33 | Guerin | mike: /home/postfix/virtual |
| 10:26.35 | resiak | fester420: If you install from the images on the page you so kindly pasted me, you will have an insanely old system. |
| 10:26.40 | fester420 | iam sorry about his |
| 10:26.44 | Guerin | mike: i KNOW that this is documented in the howto |
| 10:26.46 | hellop | streuner, I have an HP 8200 4x but I wasn't aware that the USB drive would become bootable. |
| 10:26.47 | fester420 | oh ok |
| 10:26.53 | Teemu_ | how I can force my apt-get use ipv4 sources, not ipv6 just because it doesn't work right now :I, trying to fix it |
| 10:27.06 | mike | Guerin: i must be blind then |
| 10:27.08 | fester420 | ok iam about to get the iso's |
| 10:27.15 | resiak | fester420: Singular |
| 10:27.15 | fester420 | do i just get them all |
| 10:27.17 | resiak | fester420: One ISO |
| 10:27.34 | resiak | fester420: The netinst CD image, with Debian base, for i386 |
| 10:27.38 | streuner_ | hellop: even if the BIOS doesn't support it, there is a way to do it |
| 10:27.40 | fester420 | ok |
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| 10:27.45 | fester420 | net install |
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| 10:28.11 | fester420 | how long will that take on a dsl connection |
| 10:28.12 | streuner_ | hellop: USB-stick |
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| 10:28.45 | fester420 | cause iam for shure gonna use debian |
| 10:28.56 | jethro | !dict shure |
| 10:28.58 | dpkg | could not find definition for shure |
| 10:29.04 | fester420 | lol |
| 10:29.12 | hellop | I was just thinking someone could sugggest a distro or something, DSL linux for example. 50mg, kooppix based, runs KDE from windows, but didn't come with apt-get. I was thinking something more robust, like standard Debian net install, via HD. |
| 10:29.29 | fester420 | i hate apt-get |
| 10:29.37 | fester420 | i use synaptic |
| 10:29.40 | peterS | fester420: depends on the speed of your DSL line. on mine, a 100 MB iso image doesn't take all that long to download |
| 10:29.49 | Teemu_ | :o |
| 10:29.54 | streuner_ | hellop: we suggest debian. |
| 10:30.01 | fester420 | ya it is dowlloading at 165 kpbs |
| 10:30.11 | jethro | darn that's slow |
| 10:30.16 | fester420 | i know it is |
| 10:30.22 | jethro | I pity you |
| 10:30.28 | fester420 | i just moved in a new house |
| 10:30.35 | fester420 | and my cable net wouldnt work |
| 10:30.36 | PSG|Tartiflette | hi, i have to make an .deb for a job . I create it with dpkg -b directory name.deb .In this packet we show my script (.bash) but it will not execut when we install the packet. Is it possible to execute the script when an user install the packet .deb ? If yes How ? |
| 10:30.37 | PerfDave | !full CD advocacy |
| 10:30.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, full cd advocacy is you can download the images while using your computer for something else, but you can't use your computer while Debian is netinstalling. It takes a full desktop install down to under half an hour from a couple of hours, even on ADSL. A full CD image will also have kernel source in case of problems. but only download the first cd, you greedy bastard. maybe a good reason to have more than one computer |
| 10:30.44 | tuxyRochefort | do you think debian could split into 2 forks, due to debian team ? |
| 10:30.49 | streuner_ | hellop: /msg dpkg ig |
| 10:30.54 | Guerin | tuxyRochefort: what the fuck? |
| 10:30.56 | SilentBob | tuxyRochefort no |
| 10:30.58 | SilentBob | That's stupid. |
| 10:30.58 | peterS | fester420: kilobits or kilobytes? if that's kilobytes per second, 100 Mbyte takes like 10 minutes |
| 10:31.03 | PerfDave | tuxyRochefort: It could be, it's unlikely to. |
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| 10:31.13 | jordin | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.17 | fester420 | KB/sec |
| 10:31.17 | jordin | XDD |
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| 10:31.28 | fester420 | :x |
| 10:31.36 | peterS | fester420: 10 minutes is not what I'd call a long wait to pull down a whole new OS installer |
| 10:31.47 | Guerin | PSG|Tartiflette: read the NM guide |
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| 10:32.07 | fester420 | ya it taken 10 mins |
| 10:32.08 | hellop | streuner_ ? |
| 10:32.22 | fester420 | you guys are so friendly |
| 10:32.28 | fester420 | no like the suse people |
| 10:32.32 | fester420 | so i said fuck them |
| 10:32.32 | SilentBob | !start a distro war |
| 10:32.33 | dpkg | Slackware rocks! |
| 10:32.34 | jethro | PSG|Tartiflette: are you mixing a loosers soccer team and an excellente recipe in your nickname or am I on crack? |
| 10:32.34 | Guerin | haha |
| 10:32.37 | peterS | that's nice to hear |
| 10:32.42 | directhex|work | !start a food fight |
| 10:32.43 | dpkg | meatloaf is crappy |
| 10:32.51 | peterS | yes. yes, he is. |
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| 10:32.56 | fester420 | and i like debian from all of the distros |
| 10:32.59 | Guerin | fester420: we had someone quit in a huff about 10 minutes ago saying the opposite |
| 10:33.00 | directhex|work | jethro, you're shrooming. |
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| 10:33.13 | fester420 | o |
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| 10:33.25 | jethro | hmm |
| 10:33.35 | PSG|Tartiflette | lol jethro but it's not answer to my questions :) |
| 10:33.38 | hellop | yeah, thanks for the help guys.. I'll try DSL linux since it installs from Windows, and then try to get apt-get afterwards. |
| 10:33.40 | Guerin | !phatedsmite jethro |
| 10:33.44 | fester420 | you guys helped me alot |
| 10:33.52 | PSG|Tartiflette | Guerin can you say to me where i can found NM guide ? |
| 10:34.01 | resiak | !nm |
| 10:34.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, nm is New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. And also nevermind, or a program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
| 10:34.04 | Guerin | PSG|Tartiflette: /msg dpkg nm guide |
| 10:34.06 | resiak | Erm. |
| 10:34.40 | PSG|Tartiflette | ok thanks Guerin |
| 10:34.45 | jethro | in tartiflette we trust |
| 10:34.47 | jethro | amen |
| 10:34.51 | PSG|Tartiflette | haha |
| 10:35.03 | Guerin | jethro: good bong? |
| 10:35.23 | jethro | that's a moto |
| 10:35.24 | Guerin | the one you clearly just made and had to test-drive, I mean |
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| 10:35.44 | fester420 | a heads up linux suse 9.3 sucks |
| 10:35.53 | jethro | where I was born, someone created a sportswear brand, with this moto in front |
| 10:35.57 | fester420 | worst distro ever |
| 10:35.58 | Guerin | of course it does, it's NovHell |
| 10:36.08 | fester420 | i like that slogan |
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| 10:36.17 | streuner_ | hehe, NovHell... |
| 10:36.19 | Guerin | jethro: did the moon turn a-fire red? |
| 10:36.30 | jethro | not at all |
| 10:36.47 | fester420 | i will be in here alot once i get debain installed |
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| 10:37.10 | resiak | \o/ |
| 10:37.12 | fester420 | these people tried to get me to use freebsd |
| 10:37.19 | jethro | suse people? |
| 10:37.28 | fester420 | yes |
| 10:37.33 | streuner_ | haha |
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| 10:37.47 | fester420 | lol they bashed me for my nick and shit |
| 10:37.48 | jethro | because you were smarter than the average suse user? |
| 10:38.01 | fester420 | and because i was going to deb |
| 10:38.06 | jethro | or jsut becasue you couldn't speak german |
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| 10:38.15 | fester420 | i speak german |
| 10:38.16 | fester420 | lol |
| 10:38.19 | jethro | oh |
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| 10:38.45 | fester420 | i just graduated collage |
| 10:38.48 | doub | jethro: so our wonderful soccer team is interationally known ? |
| 10:38.55 | fester420 | got a degree in engeniring |
| 10:38.58 | jethro | doub: I live in paris, so I gotta know it |
| 10:38.59 | fester420 | lol |
| 10:39.02 | resiak | !tell fester420 -about enter |
| 10:39.09 | jethro | doub: and I wouldn't say wonderfull .. :) |
| 10:39.12 | Guerin | yummeh |
| 10:39.16 | eqdar | me neither :-) |
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| 10:39.26 | fester420 | will do resiak |
| 10:39.37 | streuner_ | jethro: i would guess many parisen people don't even know what soccer is? ;-) |
| 10:39.49 | fester420 | Sie sind Burschen so abkühlt |
| 10:39.49 | doub | jethro: that explains it. i won't say soccer at large is wonderful, but that's just my point of view |
| 10:39.51 | jethro | streuner_: just because they don't speak english, and call soccer football |
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| 10:40.12 | fester420 | now do i just burn the iso |
| 10:40.15 | fester420 | and boot |
| 10:40.26 | jethro | doub: I m not into soccer anyway. too much of a business |
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| 10:40.36 | sunrise | hi all |
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| 10:40.42 | Delph | fester420: it's worth a try |
| 10:40.43 | fester420 | hello |
| 10:40.46 | fester420 | ok |
| 10:40.50 | fester420 | let me find nero |
| 10:41.07 | Guerin | he'll be down by the fire |
| 10:41.12 | Guerin | follow the sound of violins |
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| 10:41.27 | streuner_ | jethro: did you see the 'Love Parade' last summer? |
| 10:41.30 | torc_ | how do i install a pkg from a .deb ? |
| 10:41.32 | sunrise | is there a way with dpkg-scanpackages to create a Packages file which containing all versions of one package ? I've my own repository where differenct versions of one package exists and would like to use apt-get pkg=version to install them |
| 10:41.37 | Guerin | torc_: dpkg -i |
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| 10:42.21 | JJWang_HUST | hi |
| 10:43.03 | fester420 | how long will the net install take |
| 10:43.15 | resiak | fester420: How fast is your internet connection? |
| 10:43.22 | fester420 | 2 mb/s |
| 10:43.22 | resiak | fester420: How much do you want to install? |
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| 10:43.28 | resiak | fester420: How long is a piece of string? |
| 10:43.31 | streuner_ | fester420: well, 5-10 minutes to install base-system |
| 10:43.46 | fester420 | does it comes with xchat |
| 10:43.59 | resiak | fester420: If you install it, yes· |
| 10:44.04 | fester420 | ok |
| 10:44.05 | streuner_ | 200 MB for each, GNOME or KDE and X 70-80 MB |
| 10:44.06 | Delph | fester420: the base system comes with nothing. (literally nothing) |
| 10:44.15 | fester420 | lol |
| 10:44.20 | fester420 | that blows |
| 10:44.21 | SilentBob | the base system has plenty |
| 10:44.22 | SilentBob | psh |
| 10:44.23 | SilentBob | apt-get |
| 10:44.25 | SilentBob | ls |
| 10:44.30 | SilentBob | pwd |
| 10:44.34 | EvanCarroll | alright here is a minor problem: I have a debian-amd64, i have create a 32bit chroot, i'm trying to run a copy of vmware5 that i managed to instlal on it, it is looking in chroot's /dev/ for vmmon when it should be looking in root: /dev/ for vmmon is there anyway i can symlink over /dev/ in the chroot to the base installs dev, or run a bind mount?] |
| 10:44.38 | resiak | Delph: I'm not entirely sure he realises that you're not joking. |
| 10:44.45 | SilentBob | fester420, You can just apt-get anything you want.. |
| 10:44.45 | Guerin | SilentBob: if it had screen and irssi, I'd be happy |
| 10:44.46 | streuner_ | !tell SilentBob about enter |
| 10:44.47 | SilentBob | With the base system. |
| 10:44.47 | Guerin | oh, and emacs |
| 10:44.51 | SiliconViper | And now for the ultimate in controversy! Which is better, pre-stirred, or fruit-on-the-bottom? |
| 10:44.54 | SilentBob | apt-get -y install gnome |
| 10:44.55 | fester420 | ithank you Silensius |
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| 10:45.02 | fester420 | SilentBob, |
| 10:45.02 | resiak | !start an editor war |
| 10:45.02 | dpkg | pico doesn't deserve to be in BSD |
| 10:45.03 | fester420 | ty |
| 10:45.11 | SilentBob | !start an editor war |
| 10:45.12 | dpkg | ae blows |
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| 10:45.13 | Guerin | SilentBob: eh? |
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| 10:45.13 | SilentBob | lol |
| 10:45.17 | Guerin | SiliconViper: ? |
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| 10:45.32 | Guerin | SilentBob: disregard my eh. |
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| 10:45.45 | SiliconViper | Guerin, yogurt. Which kind is better? The pre-stirred kind, or the stuff with the fruit on the bottom? |
| 10:45.49 | streuner_ | holycow: moo! |
| 10:45.54 | resiak | The latter. |
| 10:45.58 | Guerin | wtf |
| 10:46.04 | Guerin | yoghurt doesn't have fruit in it |
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| 10:46.15 | SiliconViper | :( The good kind does. |
| 10:46.15 | Delph | wtf, plain yogurt and then you put the real fruit in it, or the honey... |
| 10:46.20 | resiak | Guerin: It does when you have special FruitiCow(TM)! |
| 10:46.21 | directhex|work | yoghurt must be full of chocolate & caramel to be worth my time |
| 10:46.23 | Guerin | yoghurt should have nothing in it you don't put in at the of eating |
| 10:46.28 | Delph | SiliconViper: you know how they make that stuff... |
| 10:46.35 | Delph | i wouldn't call it 'good kind' |
| 10:46.37 | SiliconViper | Delph, yes. |
| 10:46.44 | Guerin | Delph: you might be a furry, but it does appear you have SOME taste. |
| 10:46.58 | vorsprung | The fruit supplied ready mixed in yoghurt is pretty poor |
| 10:47.08 | Guerin | it's fucking atrocious |
| 10:47.09 | vorsprung | I'm with Guerin on this: add your own fruit |
| 10:47.24 | SiliconViper | I'm partial to the fruit-on-the-bottom (though the fruit is more like jam, really) |
| 10:47.29 | fester420 | ok iam off to install debian' |
| 10:47.33 | holycow | streuner_, mornin |
| 10:47.33 | holycow | 1 |
| 10:47.38 | holycow | ! |
| 10:47.41 | fester420 | ! |
| 10:47.45 | Guerin | yoghurt with jam in is pretty good, though a bit sweet |
| 10:47.46 | SiliconViper | resiak, yeah... fresh fruit costs money. |
| 10:47.49 | SiliconViper | Money I don't have. |
| 10:47.52 | Guerin | the best is with honey and ground nuts |
| 10:47.54 | Guerin | mmm |
| 10:48.02 | Delph | SiliconViper: it's suprisingly cheap. |
| 10:48.18 | Delph | especially if you're prepared to cut off the manky bits from the old stuff. |
| 10:48.22 | vorsprung | SiliconViper, yep should really be "strawberry jam flavored yoghurt". Although it is even poor as jam :) |
| 10:48.47 | resiak | SiliconViper: You miss my point. I find it hard to not eat things when I'm, erm, studying, so fresh fruit doesn't last long ;) |
| 10:48.50 | SiliconViper | Delph, depends on the fruit, really. strawberry jam yogurt is still cheaper when strawberries are out-of-season. |
| 10:49.08 | Delph | SiliconViper: hah, thats what you get for eating fruit out of season. |
| 10:49.17 | SiliconViper | :( yeah... |
| 10:49.22 | SiliconViper | But I love strawberries.... |
| 10:49.27 | Guerin | heh |
| 10:49.28 | SiliconViper | Sooooo tasty. |
| 10:49.41 | Guerin | the area I live in produces 1/3 of the strawberries in korea |
| 10:49.47 | Guerin | they're fucking EVERYWHERE |
| 10:49.54 | Guerin | i'm suck of the little bastards |
| 10:49.58 | SiliconViper | :( |
| 10:50.00 | vorsprung | Queen Victoria's greenhouses used to produce 2lb of strawberries every day of the year |
| 10:50.04 | Guerin | sick of them, even |
| 10:50.38 | Guerin | it's all orchards here |
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| 10:50.58 | vorsprung | If they could do that in the 19thC I'm sure we could today if we put our minds too it. But people prefer fruit yoghurt! I blame the parents |
| 10:50.59 | SiliconViper | It's blueberries here. |
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| 10:51.06 | streuner_ | Guerin: so i guess, you are dreaming of strawberries? ;-) |
| 10:51.15 | Guerin | i can't wait until summer - it's going to be peaches and plums and apricots and watermelon for acres... then apples and pears and persimmon |
| 10:51.31 | Guerin | streuner_: i've eaten about my own body weight in strawberries in the past 6 weeks |
| 10:51.35 | SiliconViper | persimmon? |
| 10:51.38 | SiliconViper | Wassat? |
| 10:51.42 | SiliconViper | Any good? |
| 10:51.52 | streuner_ | Guerin: haha |
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| 10:52.04 | technos | Hehehe. Persimmon always requires an explaination |
| 10:52.08 | Guerin | persimmon? hell yeah. They're average to decent where I come from, but they're outrageously good in korea. |
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| 10:52.42 | Guerin | fist-sized, orange, sticky, incredibly sweet, sort of ... curious taste |
| 10:52.50 | void | where can i download older versions of nvidia drivers in .deb format? i can only seem to find newer versions using apt |
| 10:53.19 | vorsprung | http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/persimmon.html |
| 10:53.23 | streuner_ | void: what version of debian? |
| 10:53.23 | hellop | Guerin, where do U live? I have korean friends.. |
| 10:53.28 | void | sarge |
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| 10:53.33 | SiliconViper | void, if you don't mind not using .debs, they are at nvidia.com |
| 10:53.56 | jm_ | we call that kaki, like te page says |
| 10:54.02 | SiliconViper | I find I have less problems with those ones than the ones in the tree. |
| 10:54.03 | PerfDave | void: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 10:54.05 | technos | If he's from the US, probably Texas with that list of local fruit. |
| 10:54.09 | PerfDave | !nvidia installer |
| 10:54.09 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia installer is a script available from nvidia.com which installs nvidia drivers for you. However, it overwrites files that apt owns, which can get overwritten themselves when X is upgraded, leading to random breakage. Ask me about "nvidia-howto" or just "nvidia" |
| 10:54.10 | streuner_ | void: Don't use the nivida-installer |
| 10:54.12 | void | SiliconViper: yeah i know, but i'd prefer debs |
| 10:54.23 | jm_ | and don't eat the skin :) |
| 10:54.24 | Guerin | hellop: kyeryong, near daejeon |
| 10:54.25 | SiliconViper | void, any reason? |
| 10:54.31 | streuner_ | !nvidia one-liner |
| 10:54.32 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is probably apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential module-assistant && apt-get install -t unstable nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install -t unstable nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib, non-free, sid sources all needed. see <quick sid/sarge mix> and <non-free sources> |
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| 10:55.19 | streuner_ | SiliconViper: read what dpkg told you |
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| 10:55.39 | mardi_soir | hello |
| 10:55.44 | mardi_soir | j'ai une quesion |
| 10:55.44 | void | SiliconViper: because i've tried and i'm having problems with kernel source tree locations etc, and all howto's say to do it the debian way |
| 10:55.50 | SiliconViper | streuner_, I read it. What does that have to do with me? |
| 10:55.54 | streuner_ | !fr |
| 10:55.54 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 10:56.09 | resiak | !tell SiliconViper -about nvidia howto |
| 10:56.20 | streuner_ | SiliconViper: because you asked void still, after dpkg said something about? |
| 10:56.31 | jm_ | void: I use Debian and I have never used the Debian way for it, it works fine |
| 10:56.37 | directhex|work | !why nvidia-installer sucks |
| 10:56.37 | dpkg | nvidia-installer works fine for you today, granted. Let's say tomorrow XFree86 is updated. nVidia will break. If you try to uninstall nvidia (nvidia-installer --uninstall), then you break XFree86 badly. nvidia-installer overwrites files at random, and has NO CONCEPT of package management. USE THE DEBIAN PACKAGES. |
| 10:57.10 | hellop | good job nvidia! |
| 10:57.10 | SiliconViper | streuner_, I asked void, because I assumed void had his/her own opinion. I didn't assume that dpkg was able to answer for someone. |
| 10:57.23 | hellop | that would never happen with 3dfx! |
| 10:57.31 | directhex|work | hellop, nvidia-installer is F/OSS, feel free to mail nvidia patches |
| 10:57.34 | Pappa | not to mention the nvidia.com installer breaks everything linked against tls libs |
| 10:57.38 | hellop | oh |
| 10:57.49 | directhex|work | Pappa, depends on whether you run 2.4 or 2.6 kernels |
| 10:58.08 | hellop | sorry, trying to incite 3dfx/nvidia flame war. |
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| 10:58.14 | Pappa | 2.6. with the packages, all is fine. |
| 10:58.15 | streuner_ | SiliconViper: ok |
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| 10:58.33 | Guerin | hellop: bah, 3dfx isn't worth flaming anyone about |
| 10:59.00 | resiak | directhex|work: Bug me next week to patch n-i to point at the Debian Way, then submit said patch. |
| 10:59.11 | hellop | I used to know some of those 3dfx guys. They were cool as beans! |
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| 10:59.33 | void | ok i've found some older versions at snapshot.debian.org.. how do install a .dsc file? |
| 10:59.39 | resiak | void: You don't. |
| 10:59.49 | void | what's it for? |
| 10:59.53 | Pappa | md5. |
| 10:59.54 | resiak | void: You find the .deb and insalt that. |
| 10:59.57 | streuner_ | !dsc |
| 11:00.00 | Guerin | void: s.d.n is a horrible interface |
| 11:00.09 | void | there are no debs, just dsc's and tars |
| 11:00.12 | void | i want debs |
| 11:00.22 | jm_ | dsc is for source packages, hence no debs |
| 11:00.24 | Guerin | void: nope, there are debs there too.... you just have to sniff about for them |
| 11:00.35 | void | hmm ok |
| 11:00.54 | Anders1 | why does build-essential depend on a very old kernel-headers? |
| 11:00.55 | Anders1 | Get:11 http://ftp.du.se sarge/main linux-kernel-headers 2.5.999-test7-bk-17 [1377kB] |
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| 11:01.13 | void | found them! thanks guys |
| 11:01.17 | jm_ | Anders1: do you know what that is? |
| 11:01.31 | Anders1 | jm_: yeah, kernel headers. but why does it install kernel headers for 2.5.999 |
| 11:02.02 | jm_ | Anders1: because you can't go randomly changing things |
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| 11:02.28 | Anders1 | i see |
| 11:02.43 | quitte | Anders1: these are the kernel headers that the glibc is built against. not the headers used for kernel modules |
| 11:03.16 | EvanCarroll | is there anyway to make a chroot's dev point to the base installs /dev |
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| 11:03.21 | Anders1 | quitte: ok |
| 11:03.28 | jm_ | Anders1: they're heaaders for used by glibc, like quitte said |
| 11:03.39 | Anders1 | jm_: yeah, i read that |
| 11:03.54 | jm_ | andyd: they go into /usr/include - it's not for kernel stuff |
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| 11:04.12 | jm_ | that was for Anders1 ;) |
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| 11:04.54 | suzzi | howdy all |
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| 11:05.08 | Dull404 | Hello all |
| 11:05.10 | suzzi | any one know where ServerName is hiding in apache2 ??? |
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| 11:05.26 | suzzi | I dont see anything in the apache docs |
| 11:05.32 | Guerin | suzzi: I's expect it'd be in the config file |
| 11:05.37 | Dull404 | Anyone know if there is a way of piping apt-get remove to debfoster ? |
| 11:05.46 | Dull404 | apt-get remove leaves the libs behind |
| 11:05.53 | suzzi | Guerin: ya thats what I though too. but the configs are blown apart now |
| 11:06.06 | EvanCarroll | just use P on debfoster |
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| 11:06.18 | Guerin | Dull404: you'd want to write a script to do that |
| 11:06.28 | Guerin | or use aptitude |
| 11:06.28 | jm_ | Dull404: aptitude does that |
| 11:06.33 | EvanCarroll | or deborphan | xargs apt-get --purge --yes remove to remove all floating libs on system |
| 11:06.36 | sml | anyone here got any experience of coding zlib ? |
| 11:06.41 | streuner__ | dpkg, dsc is Debian source control file - .dsc, This file is a control file used by dpkg-source to extract a source package, http://debid.vlsm.org/share/Debian-Doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-debiansourcecontrolfiles |
| 11:06.42 | dpkg | okay, streuner__ |
| 11:06.43 | Dull404 | Guerin, oh aptitude will? :) |
| 11:07.02 | Dull404 | EvanCarroll, thanks! |
| 11:07.06 | EvanCarroll | Dull404: Use debfoster, and hit P to remove a package and all of its dependencies |
| 11:07.06 | Guerin | yeah, aptitude tracks 'installed as deps' libs and uninstalls them if you install the original package |
| 11:07.21 | jm_ | uninstall |
| 11:07.32 | Guerin | yeah, uninstall |
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| 11:07.37 | Dull404 | EvanCarroll, but then i have to go "through" all the list of packages? |
| 11:07.54 | jm_ | that's pretty clever when you test things, I have used it several times |
| 11:08.34 | EvanCarroll | Dull404: only the highest level packages that you have installed, IE if you sent and apt-get install xwindow-system, and you wanted to remove all of it, that would only be one 'p' in debfoster to dump it and all of the things that were installed to satisify it's dependencies |
| 11:09.10 | EvanCarroll | Dull404: you should when first installing debian install what is vital, and then just run debfoster, and hold Y then the task is slighly less daunting and the tool is much more usefull in the future |
| 11:09.32 | directhex|work | install with aptitude, when you uninstall it'll clean orphans for you |
| 11:09.57 | Dull404 | EvanCarroll, crap. that is too late now. i did a full desktop install, and want to remove openoffice.org |
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| 11:10.32 | EvanCarroll | Dull404: apt-get --purge remove openoffice.org && deborphan | xargs apt-get --purge -yes remove |
| 11:11.37 | Dull404 | EvanCarroll, its a bit of writing ;) |
| 11:11.38 | torc_ | looks like the dpkg-buildpackage does not recognize, that my system is debian-sparc-v9 and does build the `openssl` package with plain debian-sparc, which does not include -v9 optimizations (which are part of stock openssl Configure). is that the intedned behaviour? |
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| 11:11.56 | Guerin | Dull404: it's a trivial shell script :) |
| 11:11.58 | sml | Ok looks like zlib doesn't store the uncompressed file length in the final four bytes of the compressed file, it infact doesn't store this information at all! bollox. back to the drawing board. |
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| 11:12.32 | sml | I think the chaps at zlib.net should make their documentation clearer since they imply their uncompress() and compress() work with gzip. |
| 11:12.36 | Dull404 | Guerin, ok :) |
| 11:12.44 | Dull404 | EvanCarroll, thanks man |
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| 11:12.49 | streuner__ | torc_: did you look into debian/rules? |
| 11:13.04 | jm_ | torc_: I thought Debians port of sparc isn't 64bit - only the kernel is |
| 11:13.33 | torc_ | its not the issue, the pkg is build as 32-bit, but does not include the specific processor optimizations. |
| 11:13.42 | jm_ | isn't v9 for 64bit? |
| 11:14.10 | torc_ | no, its just about optimizations. look. |
| 11:14.22 | EvanCarroll | Dull404: or you can simply "cd /var/cache/apt/archive && ls | grep -i openoffice | dpkg --remove --purge' |
| 11:14.24 | jm_ | that's not the same as on Solaris then |
| 11:14.31 | torc_ | "debian-sparc","gcc:-DB_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall:" |
| 11:14.31 | EvanCarroll | Dull404: assuming you haven't run apt-get clean |
| 11:14.45 | torc_ | "debian-sparc-v9","gcc:-DB_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -O3 -mcpu=v9 -Wa,-Av8plus -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DULTRASPARC -DBN_DIV2W:" |
| 11:15.15 | jm_ | yeah that looks like 64bit to me, the same as with SUNWspro cc |
| 11:15.18 | torc_ | could this be a simple package issue? i did find some notes on the debian/changelog. |
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| 11:15.41 | Dull404 | EvanCarroll, oh shoot.. that dir was filled with old packages :S |
| 11:15.43 | torc_ | jm_: thought gcc builds 32-bit my default, and you need -m64 for 64-bit ;) |
| 11:16.01 | jm_ | torc_: I really don't know much about gcc in this respect |
| 11:16.23 | noni | heeellllloooo |
| 11:16.25 | EvanCarroll | Dull404: yea apt-get clean will save you alot of space =D, but then you cant grep on the installers name to uninstall, or use fun set-selection and get selection scripts from dpkg or make a quick reinstsall |
| 11:16.27 | noni | i m noni |
| 11:16.33 | noni | chat with meeeeeeee |
| 11:16.50 | torc_ | jm_: if i build openssl from the plain sources - it does recognize the -v9 fine, and optimizes the build. |
| 11:16.51 | Guerin | noni: how about the DPL election then? |
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| 11:16.58 | torc_ | jm_: so it looks more like a package issue to me. |
| 11:17.07 | Guerin | noni: do you really think Branden is a better choice than Krooger? |
| 11:17.15 | Dull404 | EvanCarroll, im using an old comp. with low hd space, so every bit i can save is good :D |
| 11:17.21 | noni | yaaaaaaaaaa |
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| 11:17.37 | Guerin | noni: is that a yes? |
| 11:17.45 | jm_ | torc_: well this issue is mentioned on Sparc porting page if you ask me - they say it doesn't make sense to build most of the stuff as 64bit, so maybe they forgot about it, or there were some bugs which prevented them from doing so |
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| 11:18.06 | nomed^ | hi |
| 11:18.11 | jm_ | it looks like gcc has more control over this than cc, you have -m32 and -m64, and then -mcpu |
| 11:18.24 | nomed^ | is there anyone with debian on a toshiba laptop? |
| 11:18.28 | EvanCarroll | Dull404: apt-get autoclean is nice too it will remove packages that are no longer on the mirrors and are there for old and out of date |
| 11:18.49 | Guerin | nomed^: does a 1997 toshiba laptop count? |
| 11:19.00 | noni | hello |
| 11:19.04 | noni | guerin |
| 11:19.21 | noni | chat with me |
| 11:19.23 | Dull404 | EvanCarroll, great :) |
| 11:19.26 | torc_ | btw, how do i know if some binary is 64-bit compiled? |
| 11:19.46 | drac | torc_: file <file> |
| 11:19.48 | Guerin | noni: but I was! Don't you think krooger was a good dpl candidate? |
| 11:20.03 | torc_ | drac: ok, thanks. |
| 11:20.03 | Guerin | he clearly had a lot to offer than silly old overfiend |
| 11:20.13 | nomed^ | Guerin, maybe .. have you an nvidia card on it? |
| 11:20.18 | daffy-pkf | lo |
| 11:20.21 | torc_ | jm_: patched Configure myself, so we'll see if that is working :) |
| 11:20.23 | Guerin | nomed^: heh, no way :) |
| 11:20.28 | nomed^ | i've some problems with togle-video .. |
| 11:20.33 | nomed^ | ahh ok :D |
| 11:20.45 | Guerin | neomagic256 pwns j00!11 |
| 11:21.00 | nomed^ | *toggle |
| 11:21.29 | Dull404 | EvanCarroll, apt-get is awesome... but it would be convenient to have the "remove" option to work by default... |
| 11:21.36 | noni | heelllllooooo frienbds |
| 11:21.53 | Guerin | awww, noni is snobbing me |
| 11:21.54 | Guerin | :( |
| 11:22.03 | streuner__ | Guerin: this old 'silly' Overfiend did manage over serveral years to maint X for debian, so you think he hasn't no idea about debian at all? ;-) |
| 11:22.07 | PerfDave | Dull404: check the apt config file. |
| 11:22.10 | noni | heeelllo |
| 11:22.14 | noni | i love u |
| 11:22.21 | noni | guerin |
| 11:22.31 | Guerin | streuner__: he's clearly teh clueless compared with the almighty KROOGAH! |
| 11:22.42 | broke | not the right place to ask, but I need to sell my car to by myself a new box :) what does the acronyms ONO and NEG stand for ? NEG= negotiable ? |
| 11:22.53 | Dull404 | PerfDave, tweak? |
| 11:22.55 | Guerin | PerfDave: but it's not replying... |
| 11:22.59 | PerfDave | ONO == Or Nearest Offer, NEG == Negotiable |
| 11:23.04 | PerfDave | Guerin: It loves you! |
| 11:23.11 | Guerin | long time 5 dollah! |
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| 11:23.17 | PerfDave | Sucky sucky! |
| 11:23.24 | noni | hellllllllooo |
| 11:23.37 | bob2 | tarzeau: not ytet! |
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| 11:23.50 | Guerin | noni: if you're not a bot, name a brand of car |
| 11:23.58 | noni | hhahahah |
| 11:24.20 | Dull404 | PerfDave, /etc/apt/ .. ? |
| 11:24.21 | noni | i love ur chat |
| 11:24.44 | seldon | If that's a bot, it's a weird one. |
| 11:24.49 | Pappa | the result of both divorcing your wife AND getting fired: http://www.geocities.com/ben-fuzzybear/acronyms.html |
| 11:24.51 | Guerin | not really |
| 11:24.55 | torc_ | if i compile the latest 2.4 kernel, do i need to replace the linux-kernel-headers pkg with something else? |
| 11:24.56 | Pappa | just.. too much speare time. |
| 11:25.21 | Pappa | spare* |
| 11:25.36 | Guerin | torc_: absolutely not |
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| 11:25.49 | peterS | torc_: linux-kernel-headers, despite the name and version number, has nothing to do with your running kernel |
| 11:25.53 | Nykheyn | hello, how to install my epson stylus color 660... when I try to open the manager, starts the kmanager or the kcmshell, it never finish end if I kill them, I can't install the printer... |
| 11:26.19 | torc_ | so, linux-kernel-headers is a part of libc? |
| 11:26.31 | torc_ | or just 'related' to it? |
| 11:26.37 | Guerin | torc_: not strictly PART of it... but it is very much entwined with it |
| 11:26.47 | torc_ | got it, thanks. |
| 11:27.23 | seldon | torc_: libc6-dev depends on it |
| 11:27.23 | noni | guerine plz chat with meee |
| 11:27.23 | Guerin | noni: I was, but you snobbed me |
| 11:27.28 | seldon | You don't need it to run anything, but if you want to use a compiler, you'll very much need it. |
| 11:27.29 | Guerin | so I don't want to any more |
| 11:27.29 | torc_ | what is the standard way of tuning the pkg optimization? i see different syntaxes of different pkgs debian/rules :/ |
| 11:27.37 | suzzi | any one know if theres a seti-boinc deb? |
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| 11:28.16 | Dull404 | PerfDave, wich one did you mean? |
| 11:28.28 | PerfDave | Which what did I mean? |
| 11:28.37 | firepol | hi, i get "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount fs on unknown-block(3,4)" with my compiled kernel: 2.6.11.7. |
| 11:28.37 | firepol | in some forums i read that i should copy a file, like this: |
| 11:28.37 | firepol | <firepol> cp -a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/security/capability.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/boot/ |
| 11:28.37 | firepol | but i dont have the security/kernel/capability.ko file inside my modules directory... any ideas? |
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| 11:28.40 | PerfDave | Your apt configuration file, apt.conf |
| 11:28.53 | streuner__ | torc_: #sparc, most of us have no clue about sparc at all |
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| 11:29.07 | torc_ | streuner_: its not about sparc. its about generic pkg optimization :) |
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| 11:29.23 | torc_ | streuner_: does it depend on every maintainer? |
| 11:29.24 | resiak | firepol: You rolled your own kernel? And you didn't make an initrd or build in appropriate options? |
| 11:29.28 | streuner__ | torc_: so enabled that option in debian/rules? |
| 11:29.39 | firepol | i did the initrd using the mkinitrd command |
| 11:29.39 | streuner__ | s/enabled/enable/ |
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| 11:29.48 | torc_ | streuner_: yeah, kind of. |
| 11:29.59 | firepol | i also included ram disk support... |
| 11:29.59 | Nykheyn | hello, how to install my epson stylus color 660... when I try to open the manager, starts the kmanager or the kcmshell, it never finish end if I kill them, I can't install the printer... |
| 11:30.12 | resiak | firepol: Why aren't you using make-kpkg? |
| 11:30.17 | firepol | i used it |
| 11:30.20 | resiak | firepol: And why are you rolling your own kernel in the first place? |
| 11:30.27 | firepol | but ti didnt create the initrd image |
| 11:30.30 | resiak | firepol: So why didn't you use the --initrd switch? |
| 11:30.43 | firepol | i tried with the default debian kernel-image, doesnt work... |
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| 11:31.04 | firepol | im getting crazy, if u want to see what i did so far, check here: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_21389712.html |
| 11:31.21 | Nykheyn | noone wants to help me? |
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| 11:32.16 | firepol | i had a roob partition including a boot folder. i simply resized my swap partinil, created a new partition to be used as boot partition... no way to boot using that partition |
| 11:32.25 | firepol | i always get kernel panic |
| 11:32.34 | mike | so do i |
| 11:32.54 | mike | except i make sure i use the kernel on block (0,1) |
| 11:32.55 | resiak | firepol: I can't understand what the hell is going on in that thread. |
| 11:32.55 | firepol | (i using woody, unstable, and installed grub) |
| 11:33.02 | resiak | firepol: Woody unstable?! |
| 11:33.07 | mike | rofl! |
| 11:33.26 | firepol | u know what is "unstabe" in sources.lsit, i guess, u r a debiaj user, arent u? |
| 11:33.35 | CyberShadow | How can I limit the allowed network traffic for an application or port (f.e. 1kb/s for outgoing connections to ports 5000-6000)? |
| 11:33.37 | resiak | firepol: You mixed Woody with unstable? |
| 11:34.00 | firepol | its the first thing i did when i installed debian 2 yeas ago |
| 11:34.03 | resiak | firepol: What crack are you smoking? |
| 11:34.04 | firepol | i never had problems |
| 11:34.04 | k-man1 | how can i list all the installed packages and the size of those installed packages? |
| 11:34.06 | resiak | !bobbit |
| 11:34.07 | resiak | !bobbitt |
| 11:34.07 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto stable systems, you get the same result. |
| 11:34.17 | firepol | resiak, dont make fun of me pls |
| 11:34.22 | jm_ | k-man: dpkg-awk, or grep-dctrl |
| 11:34.36 | firepol | im not using it for server purposes, its my own box and "unstable" means i get the latest version of the packages |
| 11:34.48 | seldon | firepol: Did you do a dist-upgrade, or just install individual packages from sid? |
| 11:34.51 | Nykheyn | hello, how to install my epson stylus color 660... when I try to open the manager, starts the kmanager or the kcmshell, it never finish end if I kill them, I can't install the printer... i need it! HELP |
| 11:34.52 | resiak | firepol: Did you dist-upgrade to sid? |
| 11:34.56 | resiak | !hurry |
| 11:34.57 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 11:35.09 | firepol | dist-upgrade |
| 11:35.15 | firepol | but thats not the problem |
| 11:35.18 | resiak | firepol: Oh, well, that's okay then. |
| 11:35.21 | firepol | the problem is that i get kernel panic error when i boot |
| 11:35.42 | resiak | firepol: I can't unravel what the hell is going on. Do the parameters to your kernel mention initrd=/fish/dog ? |
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| 11:35.44 | seldon | No, that's fine. But you'll probably want to call it just unstable or sid in the future, woody unstable confuses people ;P |
| 11:36.01 | firepol | he forum thread i gave u is too long, ill give u the link from the appropriate place where its easier to read... |
| 11:36.03 | Nykheyn | !hurry |
| 11:36.03 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 11:36.05 | k-man1 | jm_, thanks |
| 11:36.36 | resiak | firepol: TBH, I don't have time right now. But if you summarise your problem and reask in here, you may get more help. |
| 11:37.13 | firepol | the problem is that if i summarize it using more than 3 lines, ill be kicked |
| 11:37.31 | firepol | anyway, ill try |
| 11:37.33 | Nykheyn | !printer |
| 11:37.33 | dpkg | methinks printer is a device that allows you to put things from your computer onto paper, envelopes, or whatever. don't forget to check http://www.linuxprinting.org, or a hardcopy output device. easy to set up using foomatic-gui |
| 11:37.37 | nomed^ | firepol, grub or lilo? |
| 11:37.58 | resiak | firepol: Summarise in one very long line! |
| 11:38.01 | firepol | grub. wait, i explain u where the problem comes from... |
| 11:38.07 | resiak | firepol: Don't /msg me |
| 11:38.25 | resiak | firepol: Explain the problem to the channel, but in ONE MESSAGE so that it's easy to read. |
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| 11:39.04 | foobared | firepol: ide chipset driver maybe. it is intel, isn't it |
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| 11:39.49 | nomed^ | firepol, are you using a precompiled kernel ? |
| 11:40.23 | firepol | till a few days ago. no problem. i had these partitions: hda1 = windows; hda2=linux swap; hda3=root. i was using lilo. then i decided to install grub. no problems. then i decided to create a SEPARATE PARTITINO to be used for /BOOT. i resized my swap partition and i've created a new partition just before the root partition. to be used as boot. fdisk created it as /hda4. here came the problems |
| 11:41.06 | nomed^ | no initrd /boot/initrd-xyz line maybe ... |
| 11:41.21 | CyberShadow | How can I limit the allowed network traffic for an application or port (f.e. 1kb/s for outgoing connections to ports 5000-6000)? |
| 11:41.23 | nomed^ | vim /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 11:42.05 | jm_ | CyberShadow: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/ADSL-Bandwidth-Management-HOWTO/implementation.html has an example script - read Advanced routing howto for more |
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| 11:42.17 | firepol | i renamed the old boot folder in /boot2, i created /boot, mounted it, copied the boot2 contents inside there. but when i reboot now i get this: Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount fs on unknown-block(3,4)". isn't that i missed to compile a security support in the kernel, which should create a module called kernel/security/capability.ko ? |
| 11:42.18 | CyberShadow | jm_: thanks |
| 11:43.03 | tuxyRochefort | how can you explain that on _the very same PC_, openoffice.org takes 25 seconds to load on linux and 8 seconds to load on windows XP ? |
| 11:43.17 | firepol | if i used a precompiled kernel.image: i get a kernel panic with a different error message. so it doesnt work even with a precompiled kernel... |
| 11:43.30 | Gathond | tuxyRochefort: preload feature? |
| 11:43.35 | jm_ | FireEgl: no, it most likely means you specified wrong root= option for kernel or you forgot to load initrd image for this kernel |
| 11:43.43 | streuner__ | tuxyRochefort: badgers? |
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| 11:43.44 | jm_ | firepol ^^^^^^^^ |
| 11:43.51 | kukowa|wrk | hi all |
| 11:43.51 | resiak | tuxyRochefort: -funroll-all-loops? |
| 11:43.56 | caphuso | tuxyRochefort: it probably preloads two thirds of OO.org while booting windows to compete with MS office, which does the same |
| 11:43.59 | nomed^ | firepol, check grub config file |
| 11:44.07 | kukowa|wrk | can anyone help to build single module from kernel src? |
| 11:44.12 | CyberShadow | jm_: do the precompiled debian kernels have "the appropriate HTB queue and IMQ patches"? |
| 11:44.28 | jm_ | CyberShadow: I have no idea, I don't use them |
| 11:44.32 | CyberShadow | :( |
| 11:44.34 | dbron | Hi all, when using mutt and postfix to send a csv file - I have an odd behavior. My orginal file ends each line with CR LF - the delivered file I get if sending to localhost only has LF. What changes the file? Is it mutt or postfix (or something else)? |
| 11:44.43 | firepol | grub condfig file is ok: it detects the vmlinuz file and also the initrd file... it loads the kernel... but then i get a kernel panic after a while |
| 11:44.44 | seldon | tuxyRochefort: It's probably preloading at windows startup, much like mozilla's quickstart feature. |
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| 11:44.50 | tuxyRochefort | Gathond, _with_ preload features on linux |
| 11:44.59 | resiak | firepol: No, your menu.lst _isn't_ okay. |
| 11:45.08 | seldon | Try oooqs-kde or ooqstart-gnome, they do the same. |
| 11:45.10 | tuxyRochefort | caphuso, is there a way to do the same on linux ? |
| 11:45.19 | firepol | i can post here what i have in my menu.lst if u want... |
| 11:45.24 | Gathond | tuxyRochefort: perhaps it preloads more, or perhaps the win32 edition is more optimised |
| 11:45.32 | caphuso | tuxyRochefort: i wouldn't know. i'm not into such nonsense |
| 11:45.37 | resiak | firepol: I will bet that you have the wrong "root" line in menu.lst |
| 11:45.45 | resiak | tuxyRochefort: As I said, -funroll-all-loops ;) |
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| 11:46.07 | chill | which device is the serial port in linux 2.6 ? |
| 11:46.19 | jm_ | the same as in 2.4 |
| 11:46.26 | streuner__ | chill: /dev/ttyS0? |
| 11:46.32 | chill | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.32 | jm_ | chill: read devices.txt |
| 11:46.39 | nomed^ | dbron, try to change file-name ex: file.csv to file.my |
| 11:46.41 | tuxyRochefort | well. I experimented the same for several applications. Even the "mines" game is far slower (it's not the same software of course) |
| 11:46.43 | firepol | my root line is: root (hd0,3) ... if i put something differet thzan 0,2 i get grub error 15 |
| 11:46.58 | jm_ | firepol: no pasting here, /msg dpkg paste |
| 11:47.08 | firepol | i already tried to modify the root line. i didnt paste |
| 11:47.10 | tuxyRochefort | could it be that Linux (or X11 or whatever) is far slower than Windows |
| 11:47.17 | caphuso | tuxyRochefort: no |
| 11:47.20 | nomed^ | firepol, so your root is in /dev/hda4 ? |
| 11:47.25 | jm_ | yes, but think of it as a warning in advance |
| 11:47.26 | dbron | nomed^: will do, I changed the mime type so that it read /text/plain but I will change the extension |
| 11:47.30 | firepol | nomed: exactly |
| 11:47.31 | chill | jm_, thanks |
| 11:47.38 | firepol | no |
| 11:47.41 | firepol | nomd: no |
| 11:47.53 | directhex|work | tuxyRochefort, why is it that when playing unreal tournament 2004, level load times on windows xp are 25 seconds, but are only 8 seconds on linux? could it be that windows xp is slower? |
| 11:48.02 | firepol | nomed: my root is inside hda3, and my boot partition is inside hda4 |
| 11:48.09 | nomed^ | kernel root=/dev/hda4 end initrd is in meny.list? |
| 11:48.21 | jm_ | there we go, that's wrong |
| 11:48.23 | firepol | initrd is inside menu.lst and loads correctly |
| 11:48.36 | Gathond | tuxyRochefort: if it is general then your linux might not use UDMA to communicate with your harddisk which therefore operates alot slower |
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| 11:48.42 | nomed^ | firepol, so root=/dev/hda3 i feel |
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| 11:49.07 | nomed^ | firepol, for kernel line ... |
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| 11:49.25 | mike | while setting up postfix, can i leave these values? virtual_gid_maps = static:1001? and uid too. |
| 11:49.55 | Guerin | mike: no, you must specify them to the uid and gid of the user 'postfix' |
| 11:50.06 | Guerin | or whatever user is handling mail |
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| 11:50.48 | firepol | i will try to change the kernel line... ill let u know in 2 minutes |
| 11:51.21 | dbron | nomed^: same behavior, the sent file is smaller than the original |
| 11:51.50 | nomed^ | trying to compress it ... ? |
| 11:52.23 | dbron | nomed^: that would be an odd default behavior, and all that is different is the line terminator |
| 11:52.37 | tarzeau | say i have T^HTi^Hit^Htl^Hle^He how can i transform it to Title using awk sed or something like it? |
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| 11:52.53 | jm_ | tarzeau: col |
| 11:53.17 | jm_ | col -b will do that |
| 11:53.45 | nomed^ | dbron, some MTA check for executable files ..also lookin' on zip and tar files .. |
| 11:54.10 | tarzeau | jm_: thanks alot. perfect |
| 11:54.49 | firepol | THANK YOUUUUU .uuurrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaah, it works! ;-) im so happy, thank you guys, ur support was really valuable! |
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| 11:55.39 | Capkirk | recently upgrade a server testing server with a newer kernel 2.6.9 now when i try to log in to server through ssh i get : stdin: is not a tty |
| 11:55.57 | Capkirk | and the terminal will just hang there |
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| 11:56.02 | firepol | the problem was not the root line, the root line was correct: (hd0,3). the problem was the kernel line, which was pointing to /dev/hda4 |
| 11:56.12 | hellop | There must be a way, creat a bootsector img file, then point windows boot.ini to it, which just runs an iso file from your win partition. how bout that? |
| 11:56.12 | Capkirk | does anyone know what the problem could be? |
| 11:56.14 | nomed^ | dbron, normally the best way is to compress and change .. lets say .. from *.tar to *.my |
| 11:56.32 | firepol | i corrected it to hda3. and it booted without kernel panic, i love u guys, thanks so much. debian rulez!! |
| 11:56.34 | jm_ | hellop: ISO file? |
| 11:56.36 | tuxyRochefort | directhex|work, why then when running neverwinter nights, level load times on windows is 5 seconds and are more than 12 seconds on linux ? |
| 11:56.41 | hellop | substitute whatever |
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| 11:56.51 | nomed^ | cu |
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| 11:57.12 | conrad10781 | In the apt-cacher package the config file has a expire_hours setting. can that be set to 0 so that they will never expire/delete? |
| 11:57.13 | Gathond | tuxyRochefort: did you see my comment on your disk drive setup? |
| 11:57.14 | Shorty` | hey guys |
| 11:57.28 | Shorty` | recommended avi/mpeg player and appropriate plugins? |
| 11:57.28 | Gathond | tuxyRochefort: seems like your machine is just generally alot slower |
| 11:57.41 | firepol | nomed, thanks again. cheers |
| 11:57.50 | directhex|work | !tell Shorty_ about marillat |
| 11:57.57 | Gathond | tuxyRochefort: which Is not my experience with my system, not with NWN anyway, dont use OO to dont know about that |
| 11:57.59 | directhex|work | Shorty_, apt-get install mplayer-386 w32codecs |
| 11:58.01 | Shorty` | ah yes! |
| 11:58.03 | hellop | A file that is actually a ext2 partition that can be read from lilo pointed to by a windows boot.ini file. or something |
| 11:58.06 | Shorty` | marilat! I remember that.. |
| 11:58.24 | Shorty` | *waits for bot* |
| 11:58.32 | hellop | There must be a way to just, install the right bootsector, reboot, and have it run a Linux Distro img |
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| 11:59.46 | tuxyRochefort | Gathond, yeap, but my hd is configured with dma turned (on) |
| 11:59.48 | hellop | I know that you can make an img of your boot sector with DEBUG, and then point boot.ini to it, which will then, say load a different command.com. |
| 12:00.04 | tuxyRochefort | so what could it be ? |
| 12:00.12 | quitte | hellop: so you want a bootloader for dos? |
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| 12:00.23 | tuxyRochefort | preload ? i have prelink binaryes of openoffice already |
| 12:00.24 | mike | Guerin: SASL2 allows people to connect to my server and send emails from anywhere right? does it need a certificate? can it be self signed if so? |
| 12:00.39 | quitte | hellop: try syslinux |
| 12:00.40 | Gathond | tuxyRochefort: prelink is not preload |
| 12:00.47 | directhex|work | oh, hold on |
| 12:00.47 | bob2 | so |
| 12:00.49 | bob2 | on alias |
| 12:00.54 | directhex|work | !tell Shorty` about marillat |
| 12:00.56 | bob2 | WHY THE HELL DON'T THEY EVER RUN xlock? |
| 12:01.01 | tuxyRochefort | but afaikn there is no way to preload ooo |
| 12:01.11 | directhex|work | bob2, because xscreensaver is more secure |
| 12:01.13 | tuxyRochefort | on linux at least |
| 12:01.25 | bob2 | haha |
| 12:01.51 | Shorty` | the hell |
| 12:01.53 | Shorty` | stupid ftp :/ |
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| 12:02.08 | resiak | tuxyRochefort: Sure there is. Start it up when you log in. |
| 12:02.15 | hellop | Maybe taking the HD out of my Thinkpad, and try to install on my Celeron 2.6ghz? |
| 12:02.24 | tuxyRochefort | resiak, it's not a solution |
| 12:02.31 | directhex|work | right, i'm off to debianize 1.6% of our supercompute resource. go go gadget sarge! |
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| 12:02.55 | resiak | tuxyRochefort: My solution was to use AbiWord and Gnumeric except when I need to open Microsoftian files. |
| 12:02.57 | torc_ | hm, what if i need to compile `bind9` src package and install it to some specified dir, like /opt/testing/bind? how should i do this? looks like there are lots of hard-coded paths in the debian dir files. |
| 12:02.58 | Shorty` | Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages |
| 12:02.59 | Shorty` | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:03.02 | Shorty` | anyone had that before? |
| 12:03.06 | tuxyRochefort | i need to |
| 12:03.08 | directhex|work | Shorty`, wait. |
| 12:03.08 | Shorty` | (that's not my IP) |
| 12:03.21 | resiak | tuxyRochefort: Sure. |
| 12:03.26 | torc_ | Shorty_: thats some transparent proxy ip? |
| 12:03.36 | resiak | tuxyRochefort: But if you do that all the time, what's wrong with running OOo all the time? |
| 12:03.36 | tuxyRochefort | even abiword takes somes seconds to start |
| 12:03.36 | Shorty` | nfi, but it's not mine |
| 12:03.43 | Shorty` | and it's nothing to with the ISP here. |
| 12:03.44 | resiak | tuxyRochefort: Yes, it does. |
| 12:03.58 | Gathond | tuxyRochefort: there might not på a preload in OO for linux |
| 12:04.01 | resiak | tuxyRochefort: 5 here. |
| 12:04.20 | tuxyRochefort | nothing wrong i was comparing gnu software on linux and windows, and ALL software gets loaded far away faster on windows |
| 12:04.21 | resiak | tuxyRochefort: The solution is don't close it. |
| 12:04.27 | directhex|work | 6 seconds here |
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| 12:04.45 | tuxyRochefort | fare away means 2 or 3 times faster |
| 12:04.53 | directhex|work | resiak, yes. |
| 12:05.00 | resiak | directhex|work: ... |
| 12:05.18 | directhex|work | resiak, but i will get a 4400+ dual core, and pwnz0r j00 |
| 12:05.22 | hggh_ | where can I set in sarge that the hotplug agent should not load any hisax* module? |
| 12:05.28 | directhex|work | !blacklist |
| 12:05.29 | dpkg | Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present) |
| 12:05.29 | resiak | directhex|work: :lose me |
| 12:05.59 | Gathond | tuxyRochefort: that is not my experience, so I still suspect some hardware thing that is slower in linux for your machine |
| 12:06.06 | resiak | Hmm... !blacklist =~ s/undesirable/"undesirable"/ ? |
| 12:06.12 | bwbettin | Is there a way to get the source for a Debian Package so that we can compile it ourselves, setting different configure options? |
| 12:06.19 | resiak | bwbettin: apt-get source pkg |
| 12:06.22 | directhex|work | bwbettin, sure. apt-get source foobar |
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| 12:06.35 | directhex|work | bwbettin, you may want to apt-get build-dep foobar, too |
| 12:06.52 | bwbettin | Thanks |
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| 12:07.43 | quitte | tuxyRochefort Gathond or maybe the linux system is doing something that eats up all the time. nameserver lookups for example made me wonder why things are so slow many times, or maybe a missing lo. so many ways to slow down the whole system. |
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| 12:12.21 | hellop | You can't tell me there is not Windows .MSI package that you double click on, and it just installs Linux? |
| 12:13.07 | Gathond | hellop: there is not |
| 12:13.07 | jethro | there is no such thing |
| 12:13.16 | Gathond | hellop: there I said it |
| 12:13.37 | cockroach | is there anything better than "top" to find out how much memory each process is using? |
| 12:13.39 | Anders1 | to be honest, ive actually seen a distribution which is installed via a .MSI |
| 12:13.49 | Anders1 | iirc it was called "topologilinux" or something |
| 12:13.59 | directhex|work | hellop, corel linux 2.1 i think, though it's a little out of date |
| 12:14.02 | Anders1 | for hellop :P |
| 12:14.24 | petemc | colinux |
| 12:14.37 | directhex|work | 1.2, even |
| 12:14.48 | directhex|work | petemc, colinux, all the stability of windows & user-friendly of linux? |
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| 12:15.17 | Anders1 | Colinux is like UML for Windows |
| 12:15.23 | petemc | directhex|work: i briefly looked at it when it came out, was ok - dont know much about it tho |
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| 12:15.46 | hellop | thats awsome "Windows Linux" |
| 12:15.56 | yalu | are multi-line entries in /etc/fstab allowed? I would stop a line with an escaped newline and go on on the next line |
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| 12:16.09 | hellop | I have to make this distro. |
| 12:16.15 | space_cow_boy | I am trying to compile a 2.4.30 kernel for a woody box, so that I can upgrade the box to sarge. When I boot the new kernel, it hangs. How do I go about finding what is causing it to hang? |
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| 12:16.23 | yalu | hellop: allready exists in multiple versions ;) |
| 12:16.23 | hellop | And everything will be binaries, with forced binary updates! |
| 12:16.59 | directhex|work | okay, really, off to sarge things up now |
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| 12:20.10 | PitchForkLinux | hi all. any tell me how to stop gdm from loading up with kdm at boot |
| 12:21.46 | kanzure | Remove from /etc/rc*.d/ ? |
| 12:22.00 | jm_ | PitchForkLinux: /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 12:24.21 | PerfDave | space_cow_boy: Why do you think you need to compile a 2.4.30 kernel to upgrade the box to sarge? |
| 12:24.45 | PitchForkLinux | jm thanks.. I'm having a problem with kdm at login. I have no use of my keyboard |
| 12:25.02 | llama32 | how hard is it to create a knoppix-ish cd? as in from knoppix but with different software (ie no kde) |
| 12:25.18 | jm_ | llama32: there are docs about customizing it on knoppix site |
| 12:25.20 | kanzure | llama32: I believe there are some how-tos out there |
| 12:25.27 | llama32 | ahhh sweet |
| 12:25.29 | PitchForkLinux | jm if I use gdm I have keyboard |
| 12:26.00 | greycat | llama32: wouldn't #knoppix be the place to ask that? |
| 12:26.11 | jm_ | PitchForkLinux: well compare the settings and ow they start X server |
| 12:26.13 | PerfDave | llama32: Look at morphix |
| 12:26.47 | hellop | yalu, you mentioned a linux distro installable from Windows without CD... can U name one? |
| 12:26.56 | torc_ | is there any tool for easy iptables management? |
| 12:27.05 | bbrazil | torc_: shorewall is one |
| 12:27.10 | llama32 | greyca: prolly, good idea :) |
| 12:27.34 | torc_ | bbrazil: looks like too compilcated:) |
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| 12:27.55 | bbrazil | torc_: its very easy once setup |
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| 12:28.59 | torc_ | bbrazil: thanks :) |
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| 12:32.49 | yalu | hellop: did I??? |
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| 12:37.15 | PitchForkLinux | jm ok got gdm removed... also removed kdm.. then updated rc.d then reinstalled kdm, I get to the login screen but still no keyboard. any help |
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| 12:39.07 | PitchForkLinux | jm should I do a dpkg reconfigure of xserver? |
| 12:39.51 | llama32 | hehehe 777 ppl |
| 12:40.11 | llama32 | i do not like green eggs and ham |
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| 12:40.39 | Chameleon22 | what package do i need to get all the extra keys working on logitech multimedia keyboard (elite model) |
| 12:40.55 | llama32 | i think that embalming fluid's starting to kick in |
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| 12:41.34 | jm_ | PitchForkLinux: try starting X server with startx and check if keyboard works there, otherwise ask #debian-kde or #kde |
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| 12:41.47 | jm_ | Chameleon22: try hotkeys |
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| 12:41.52 | Chameleon22 | jm_: ta |
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| 12:50.20 | space_cow_boy | PerfDave don't I need a 2.4.30 kernel for sarge? |
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| 12:50.26 | PerfDave | space_cow_boy: No |
| 12:50.31 | space_cow_boy | ok thanks |
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| 12:50.38 | PerfDave | space_cow_boy: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 12:50.39 | CrypticSquared | itunes |
| 12:51.02 | Guerin | hahah |
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| 12:51.07 | Guerin | iTunes |
| 12:51.13 | Guerin | someone actually uses it! |
| 12:51.13 | PerfDave | iPwn |
| 12:52.10 | CrypticSquared | what do you use Guerin ? |
| 12:52.11 | PerfDave | Guerin: There are people who go into certain nightclubs of which I am dimly aware and handcuff themselves over a table with their naked ass in the air so they can get buttfucked by anyone who comes along. There are people who use iTunes. I'm sure there's some overlap. |
| 12:52.22 | Guerin | CrypticSquared: i use cplay |
| 12:52.26 | llama32 | anyone know of a good file manager similar to rox (fast, not rox interface though)? |
| 12:52.51 | Guerin | PerfDave: i'm sure at some of these the ipod is used as the tool of fuckery... |
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| 12:53.18 | Guerin | CrypticSquared: call me old fashioned, but I like music I can do what the fuck I like with |
| 12:53.25 | CrypticSquared | meh when the library consists of 10456 songs, i find itunes easier to manage |
| 12:53.32 | Guerin | hahaha |
| 12:53.34 | space_cow_boy | is there a csharp compiler for debian? |
| 12:54.20 | Sebulba02 | mono |
| 12:54.22 | tarzeau | what happesn if i have Emacs.1 and emacs.1 in the same mandirctory and type man 1 emacs ? |
| 12:54.35 | resiak | tarzeau: The latter one, I'd guess. |
| 12:54.39 | tarzeau | space_cow_boy: there's even an Objective-C compiler in debian |
| 12:54.42 | greycat | tarzeau: it reads /usr/share/man/man1/emacs* |
| 12:54.55 | greycat | tarzeau: or.... try it and find out? |
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| 12:55.00 | tarzeau | resiak: and when i type man Emacs |
| 12:55.03 | tarzeau | greycat: i guess i will |
| 12:55.11 | Guerin | CrypticSquared: and you got all those off iTunes, right? |
| 12:55.32 | CrypticSquared | yes, thats right Guerin... yes.... |
| 12:55.33 | space_cow_boy | tarzeau what is objective-c? is that a knock of of c#? |
| 12:55.42 | resiak | CrypticSquared: In other words, no, they're illegally downloaded mp3s? |
| 12:55.51 | resiak | space_cow_boy: No, it's totally different and about 10 years older. |
| 12:55.54 | CrypticSquared | in otherwords i sold my cds |
| 12:56.02 | quitte | is there some sort of network filesystem that does caching? so that whenever a file gets used is stored locally and then synchronized with the server every now and then? |
| 12:56.13 | tarzeau | space_cow_boy: http://www.toodarkpark.org/computers/objc/ |
| 12:56.24 | tarzeau | resiak: man Emacs will show Emacs, man emacs shows emacs |
| 12:56.34 | resiak | tarzeau: Amazing. :P |
| 12:56.39 | greycat | objective C is "that weird gcc target that you've always seen in the INSTALL file but never used" |
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| 12:56.52 | jethro | now that's a good new, linux and manpages are case sensitive |
| 12:56.54 | llama32 | tarzeau: if my memories have not failed on me, isnt c# a lot less "unixy" oriented that obj-c tho? |
| 12:57.02 | greycat | back before gcc started pimping "make bootstrap" |
| 12:57.21 | greycat | you remember... when you had to build stage1 and stage2 by hand, and set LANGUAGES=.... |
| 12:57.28 | space_cow_boy | llama32 there is all sorts of references to .Net in my c# book :( |
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| 12:58.02 | Guerin | greycat: shouldn't you be talking about The Greatful Dead or something? |
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| 12:58.18 | Guerin | <sic> |
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| 12:58.33 | jethro | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNIN ASG!! |
| 12:58.42 | asg | morning jethro |
| 12:58.43 | greycat | Guerin: "... and the televisions had *dials* instead of buttons!" |
| 12:58.44 | jethro | hope this helps fastening the process |
| 12:58.50 | Guerin | omfg |
| 12:58.54 | Guerin | dials ON the TV? |
| 12:59.04 | resiak | Hell, I remember TVs with dials, and I'm not old. |
| 12:59.04 | greycat | yeah, two of 'em. one for VHF and one for UHF. |
| 12:59.05 | asg | mine still does (at least the one upstairs) |
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| 12:59.23 | asg | llama32: talk to tarzeau then |
| 12:59.25 | llama32 | *it |
| 12:59.25 | windowwa1her | guerin : you know, "Don't touch that dial"? |
| 12:59.40 | tarzeau | llama32: no idea, i like Objective-C |
| 12:59.41 | Guerin | windowwa1her: hahaha u r kidin |
| 12:59.56 | RichiH | back in the days, i had to ride my one-gear bike ten kilometers through ten-inch-deep snow to get a shell. uphill both ways! |
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| 13:00.11 | Guerin | heh |
| 13:00.13 | tarzeau | llama32: check these: http://www.toodarkpark.org/computers/objc/AppKit/ApplicationKitTOC.html and http://www.toodarkpark.org/computers/objc/Foundation/FoundationTOC.html |
| 13:00.22 | Nykheyn | how to kill all print jobs |
| 13:00.24 | tarzeau | llama32: apt-get install gnustep-devel gnustep and start with Gorm |
| 13:00.28 | Guerin | i actually lived in a situation whrere I had to wal;k uphill to and from home |
| 13:00.36 | greycat | Nykheyn: pull the power plug on the printer. that usually kills 'em pretty quickly. |
| 13:00.39 | tarzeau | llama32: idle in #gnustep |
| 13:00.41 | Guerin | both ways, as they say |
| 13:00.44 | resiak | Guerin: How. |
| 13:00.56 | tarzeau | resiak: well i write Emacs.1 manual page :) |
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| 13:01.21 | resiak | tarzeau: You do? |
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| 13:01.31 | pepsi__ | does anyone here use Emacs/jde? If so, does anyone recognize the error "Buffer Foo.java was not set up for parsing." ? |
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| 13:01.40 | tarzeau | resiak: yeah who else? |
| 13:01.47 | tarzeau | resiak: for /usr/bin/Emacs you know |
| 13:01.52 | Guerin | resiak: I lived partway up a big university hill. At the top of the hill was a Cable Car. At the bottom of the hill was my work. On the way to work, I'd walk up to the cable car and catch it down to work. I finished work after the stupid gdmf cable car stopped running :) |
| 13:01.59 | Nykheyn | greycat, when i turn on the rpinter printing re-starts. |
| 13:02.09 | resiak | tarzeau: *bafflement* |
| 13:02.11 | resiak | Guerin: Hahah. |
| 13:02.13 | tarzeau | resiak: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/openstep/emacs.png http://emacs-on-aqua.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 13:02.27 | llama32 | tarzeau: will do... its like 40+mb tho and im on dialup so ill leave it going overnight :) |
| 13:02.43 | Nykheyn | i must kill all the jobs in printing |
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| 13:02.51 | tarzeau | llama32: you can order a http://livecd.gnustep.org/ pretty cheap check froogle.com |
| 13:03.09 | greycat | Nykheyn: so cancel all the jobs while the printer's off. |
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| 13:03.18 | yalu | I HATE nfs |
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| 13:03.26 | greycat | !magic hate ball |
| 13:03.26 | tarzeau | yalu: i love it |
| 13:03.27 | yalu | alsways those stinking locking problems |
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| 13:03.36 | Nykheyn | greycat i don't know the command. |
| 13:03.39 | Guerin | hrm, I need a windows binary to test with wine |
| 13:03.51 | tarzeau | Guerin: try index of / notepad.exe on google |
| 13:03.52 | Guerin | something trivial |
| 13:03.53 | llama32 | tarzeau: did i order a cd for kde? no. im amazed my ISP hasnt disconnected me yet :) |
| 13:03.53 | asg | Guerin: solitaire.exe |
| 13:04.08 | resiak | tarzeau: Eew :) |
| 13:04.11 | tarzeau | llama32: *shock* |
| 13:04.15 | llama32 | lol |
| 13:04.29 | mustard | since putting xfs-xtt into XF86Config-4 the fonts on gtk1 apps have messed up so that they're unreadable |
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| 13:04.34 | greycat | Nykheyn: it's either "cancel" or "lprm" depending on which printing system you use |
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| 13:05.40 | llama32 | tarzeau: it was only like 70mb or something... i downloaded BeOS like 3 times a year or so back... it really angers you when an entire night's downloading gives you a self extractor that is corrupt |
| 13:05.41 | Nykheyn | ok, thanks greycat! |
| 13:05.46 | vipersniper | is debian free for business use |
| 13:05.51 | greycat | vipersniper: yes |
| 13:06.01 | vipersniper | thanks |
| 13:07.57 | tarzeau | llama32: yeah that's bad |
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| 13:08.27 | resiak | \o/ Nagware!! \o/ |
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| 13:08.58 | greycat | kinda like OPN, with lilo's requests for money. |
| 13:09.19 | tarzeau | llama32: come in #gnustep :) |
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| 13:12.02 | seldon | resiak: The funny thing is, there is a nagware fortran compiler |
| 13:12.27 | greycat | the really funny thing is, people actually use fortran |
| 13:12.41 | seldon | The really weird thing is, some even use cobol |
| 13:13.49 | greycat | cobol is what we used to use for comic relief before Dilbert |
| 13:13.51 | Guerin | grrr, solitaire.exe takes ~10 minutes to download on a 56k |
| 13:13.53 | Guerin | apparently |
| 13:14.07 | Shane^ | greycat: fortran is widely used @ universitys for math and simulations |
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| 13:14.34 | mhale | Guerin: if you mean the windows solitaire program, the exe name is sol.exe |
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| 13:15.34 | greycat | mhale: maybe solitaire.exe is the spyware-enhanced one |
| 13:15.35 | Guerin | oh |
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| 13:15.51 | Guerin | i just want a random windows binary with which to test wine |
| 13:16.01 | greycat | sol.exe is the normal test for that |
| 13:16.41 | caphuso | Guerin: wait for one of the spam bots to tell you about a mpeg you can download, that will most likely be a renamed .exe you can run ;-) |
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| 13:16.51 | pif | hi, any rdesktop user in here? |
| 13:17.05 | Guerin | caphuso: heh |
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| 13:17.12 | Guerin | caphuso: it's my mum's computer |
| 13:17.12 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 13:17.13 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 13:17.14 | Coke | pif: I'm pretty sure there is at least one. |
| 13:17.22 | seldon | caphuso: Nah, windows works by filename extensions. It'll most likely be named foo.mpg.exe or something |
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| 13:17.52 | abrotman | huh? |
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| 13:18.47 | caphuso | seldon: that's a random one out of my logs http://XXXXXXXX.cable.mindspring.com:2158/me.mpg |
| 13:19.16 | greycat | maybe it's a movie of windows me |
| 13:19.20 | abrotman | damn |
| 13:19.50 | jethro | bah corporate proxies won't let me access :2158 |
| 13:20.23 | caphuso | grr... i already Xed out parts of the host name to make people not try to connect... |
| 13:20.28 | streuner | greycat: haha |
| 13:20.29 | Guerin | haha |
| 13:20.38 | Guerin | i thought that couldn't be real |
| 13:20.53 | abrotman | caphuso: but it's a valid host :) |
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| 13:21.29 | streuner | jethro: did you visit the 'Love Parade' last summer? |
| 13:21.30 | seldon | Hm. Why do they do that, though? I mean, those who are stupid enough to download a program a spambot advertises to them will most likely not be smart enough to change the filename extension. |
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| 13:21.37 | caphuso | abrotman: no, it's a valid host _name_ |
| 13:21.38 | jethro | streuner: in paris? |
| 13:21.44 | streuner | yep |
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| 13:21.45 | abrotman | heh |
| 13:21.52 | jethro | streuner: nah I was in corsica when it took place |
| 13:22.33 | caphuso | seldon: because windows mediaplayer will open that file and execute whatever it finds in there |
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| 13:22.39 | seldon | Oh |
| 13:22.40 | caphuso | or something like that |
| 13:22.42 | seldon | It does that? |
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| 13:22.49 | bug_code | Hi everybody |
| 13:22.59 | Guerin | it does everything it can to give up the goodies to the user |
| 13:23.10 | Guerin | because it doesn't want to be replaced by a smarter media player |
| 13:23.11 | bug_code | Where I found "Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 _Woody_ - LordSutch.com MiniCD i386 Binary" ?? |
| 13:23.18 | petemc | it will say it doesnt match the extension, and ask do you wan to continue |
| 13:23.20 | hellop | http://tuxmobil.org/Mobile-Guide/mobile-guide-p1c3-installation.html <-Install Linux any way U want. |
| 13:23.22 | bug_code | because APT request it |
| 13:23.26 | Guerin | and doesn't give two fucks and a cigar about security |
| 13:23.30 | abrotman | bug_code: say what? |
| 13:23.49 | Guerin | bug_code: fgi |
| 13:23.51 | bug_code | soory |
| 13:24.09 | seldon | Man, am I ever happy I don't have to use it... |
| 13:24.11 | bug_code | sorry |
| 13:24.18 | Guerin | ah shit |
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| 13:24.23 | Guerin | sol.exe ain't happy |
| 13:24.34 | Guerin | could this be anything to do with me doing it over ssh? |
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| 13:24.37 | greycat | bug_code: run apt-setup |
| 13:24.44 | bug_code | I'll install x-window-system and apt ask for "Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 _Woody_ - LordSutch.com MiniCD i386 Binary" |
| 13:24.55 | Guerin | bug_code: WHY? |
| 13:24.58 | jethro | Guerin: are doing ssh -X wine sol.exe ? really? |
| 13:25.03 | greycat | Guerin: he's got a cdrom line in his sources.list |
| 13:25.04 | jethro | bug_code: run apt-setup |
| 13:25.05 | bug_code | I ran apt-setup |
| 13:25.10 | Guerin | oh |
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| 13:25.20 | jethro | bug_code: run it again, and point to some mirro ron the web |
| 13:25.30 | greycat | bug_code: comment out the unwanted line in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then run apt-get update |
| 13:25.31 | Guerin | jethro: I'm installing wine on my mum's laptop so she can use some annoying windows interactive cd from the library |
| 13:25.44 | Guerin | jethro: and her machine is 10,000km away on a 56k line |
| 13:25.46 | jethro | Guerin: ssh -X wine must be a pain though :) |
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| 13:25.52 | bug_code | I put... I saw in a web page for a mirror and I followed the instructions |
| 13:25.59 | MorbidDK | I need some font help ... I'm running torsmo and before my reboot it was normal sized and everything was kosher... then I was forced to reboot and now the font size for it is huge, about triple the size it was before |
| 13:26.03 | Guerin | jethro: yeah, the bandwidth ain't helping much either |
| 13:26.08 | jethro | Guerin: heh |
| 13:26.13 | seldon | I think it's the 56k that hurt more... |
| 13:26.15 | streuner | MorbidDK: sid? |
| 13:26.21 | abrotman | bug_code: server or workstation? |
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| 13:26.37 | Guerin | ok, this bodes not well |
| 13:26.41 | bug_code | workstation |
| 13:26.56 | Guerin | something more trivial, I think. Maybe a cli app... |
| 13:27.01 | streuner | MorbidDK: there is still a bug in .5, just use .2 - /msg dpkg sdn |
| 13:27.05 | Guerin | if windows has any of those |
| 13:27.20 | bug_code | But how I know the trouble line in source? |
| 13:27.45 | jethro | Guerin: cmd.exe! |
| 13:27.52 | Pappa | well, if you have the right debugging symbols it should be a breeze |
| 13:27.56 | xk | bug_code: remove the cdrom line? |
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| 13:28.15 | Pappa | oh we're talking apt |
| 13:28.21 | MorbidDK | streuner: yes sid... not sure what package you are referring to with the .5 and .2 |
| 13:28.24 | bug_code | really?? is explict the cdrom line in source? |
| 13:28.36 | MorbidDK | streuner: er no, not sid... using sarge, sorry |
| 13:28.44 | streuner | MorbidDK: dpkg -l torsmo |
| 13:28.51 | greycat | 09:25 greycat> bug_code: comment out the unwanted line in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then run apt-get update |
| 13:28.51 | streuner | !info torsmo sarge |
| 13:28.55 | Pappa | bug_code: it says cdrom://foofoofoo |
| 13:28.59 | dpkg | torsmo: (system monitor that sits in the corner of your desktop), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.18-5 (sarge), Packaged size: 36 kB, Installed size: 124 kB |
| 13:29.10 | bug_code | thanks Pappa. I'll try |
| 13:29.18 | bug_code | bye |
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| 13:29.29 | greycat | did he have me on /ignore or something? |
| 13:30.21 | minimec | Hi. I have a question about debian mirrors. I realized, that my deb-mirrors in Switzerland are not up to date. Well I think so. The new kernel-image-2.6.11-686 is available in packeges.debian.org but not on my mirrors. How often do they update these mirrors, and who does the update? |
| 13:30.25 | jethro | greycat: you were just being too smart for him to get your point |
| 13:30.41 | seldon | minimec: You'd have to ask the guys running the mirror |
| 13:30.43 | petemc | minimec: you're running sid? |
| 13:30.55 | minimec | petemc: yes |
| 13:30.59 | petemc | ok |
| 13:31.00 | minimec | seldon: thx |
| 13:31.06 | Guerin | minimec: they update daily, at about 2000 UTC |
| 13:31.08 | minimec | petemc: unstable |
| 13:31.14 | petemc | right |
| 13:31.22 | MorbidDK | streuner: thanks much |
| 13:31.28 | streuner | greycat: why? there are people who asking you 10 different question with 10 different subjects and after 1/2 hr. they ask you the same question then ;-) |
| 13:31.45 | incorrect | does anyone here by any chance know what scsi controler is in a dell PE750 ? |
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| 13:31.49 | intx | what motherboard works with fan control and vcore adjustment under linux? |
| 13:32.06 | Guerin | intx: dell.com would |
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| 13:32.23 | xk | intx: my asus k8v deluxe works. |
| 13:32.27 | minimec | Guerin: definitly not the debian.ethz.ch :-) I am waiting for my new Kernel for days now :-) |
| 13:32.27 | intx | dell.com's motherboards supports fan speed adjustments? |
| 13:32.34 | xk | after changing the damn fan divisor :) |
| 13:32.37 | nydust | What is the command for the consol based synaptic? |
| 13:32.39 | doub | incorrect: look at what lspci says |
| 13:32.47 | Teemu__ | what's wrong with my LAN, my server computer sometimes cuts out from lan, I need to do ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 to get it working again :/ |
| 13:32.55 | xk | Teemu_: what network card? |
| 13:33.20 | Teemu__ | xk: 0000:00:0e.0 ffff: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev ff) |
| 13:33.22 | seldon | intx: He was actually talking to incorrect. nickname completion plays tricks on one sometimes. |
| 13:33.24 | jethro | intx: I think Guerin meant to talk to incorrect about the dell.com thingie |
| 13:33.26 | xk | Teemu_: I'm not surprised :) |
| 13:33.28 | Guerin | minimec: use ftp.de.d.o |
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| 13:33.38 | minimec | seldon petemc Guerin: THX for the answer. cu |
| 13:33.40 | petemc | incorrect: perc 4 |
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| 13:33.43 | xk | get rid of that piece of shit network card. |
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| 13:34.05 | Guerin | well, wine appears to work |
| 13:34.10 | Guerin | even if sol.exe doesn't |
| 13:34.10 | Teemu__ | xk: well, this card has been working nicely, until I bought that linksys wrt54G and putted static ip to my computers |
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| 13:34.32 | xk | Teemu_: is the wrt54g an integrated switch? |
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| 13:34.55 | LoRez | xk: yes, it has an integraded switch |
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| 13:34.59 | Teemu__ | its wlan/router/switch |
| 13:35.04 | Teemu__ | firewall |
| 13:35.04 | seldon | Guerin: Maybe sol.exe needs some kind of windows system library that wine doesn't have out of the box |
| 13:35.12 | petemc | runs linux! |
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| 13:35.30 | xk | most probably the wrt54g... I know someone who had the same issues with a different router/switch/wlan |
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| 13:35.49 | petemc | ive got multiple wrt54gs set up, no problems |
| 13:35.57 | xk | petemc: with realtek cards on the other end? |
| 13:35.58 | petemc | and i use realtek cards |
| 13:36.00 | petemc | :) |
| 13:36.01 | xk | heh |
| 13:36.07 | Teemu__ | mm |
| 13:36.12 | xk | I have a real hate for realtek cards |
| 13:36.13 | xk | they're shit. |
| 13:36.24 | petemc | ive not had any bother, heard all the stories |
| 13:36.24 | Teemu__ | xk: may I ask why? :P |
| 13:36.25 | streuner | not the 8029 |
| 13:36.33 | streuner | xk: the 8029 are just fine |
| 13:36.42 | Guerin | ah, they work |
| 13:36.50 | xk | yeah, if it's only cranking 10mbit |
| 13:36.55 | Guerin | 8139 is supported everywhere and cheap |
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| 13:37.02 | xk | Guerin: cheap and nasty. |
| 13:37.08 | vipersniper | is there kde-themes package |
| 13:37.09 | Teemu__ | petemc: you know is there way to put dhcpd to work to that wrt54G so it would give ip by mac, like static :I |
| 13:37.14 | xk | I installed a realtek into a p1... it couldn't handle it. |
| 13:37.21 | Guerin | xk: heh |
| 13:37.24 | xk | could barely do 1MB/sec |
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| 13:37.30 | xk | install an intel... 6 MB/sec. |
| 13:37.46 | Teemu__ | there I go |
| 13:37.47 | Teemu__ | :P |
| 13:37.52 | streuner | xk: yeah, 1MB/s - that's it. |
| 13:37.59 | setnf | i must install mplayer but it doesn't exist on my sources.list i'm using debian 3.1 testing.. |
| 13:38.00 | streuner | for 8029 |
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| 13:38.01 | xk | it was spurting out weird errors... that's why... |
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| 13:38.08 | xk | but when it was barely working... ~3 MB/s |
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| 13:38.18 | Teemu__ | xk: where you need to hurry :P, I have time to move my stuff to place to another :I |
| 13:38.32 | greycat | !rtl81x9.c |
| 13:38.32 | dpkg | i heard rtl81x9.c is the openbsd realtek 8129/8139 PCI NIC driver. Quote: "The RealTek 8139 PCI NIC redefines the meaning of 'low end.' This is probably the worst PCI ethernet controller ever made, with the possible exception of the FEAST chip made by SMC. The 8139 supports bus-master DMA, but it has a terrible interface that nullifies any performance gains that bus-master DMA usually offers." |
| 13:38.35 | xk | !rtl8139 |
| 13:38.36 | dpkg | hmm... rtl8139 is a RealTek PCI NIC that uses the 8139too (new) or rtl8139 (old) driver. *not* ne2k-pci, or a piece of shit card!...but some people have had good luck with it. see also <rtl81x9.c> |
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| 13:38.46 | setnf | i must install mplayer but it doesn't exist on my sources.list i'm using debian 3.1 testing.. what could i do to install this package ? |
| 13:38.46 | NeedVaseline | Hello all |
| 13:38.59 | Guerin | setnf: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 13:39.00 | jethro | !tell setnf -about marillat |
| 13:39.00 | xk | what about the 8169? is it any "good"? |
| 13:39.00 | streuner | setnf: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 13:39.01 | NeedVaseline | Anyone using squidGuard ? |
| 13:39.03 | Gathond | well iirc a 8029 is a 10 Mbit card, and xk talks about a 100 Mbit I hope |
| 13:39.11 | Teemu__ | is that damn bot made to annoy everyone? |
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| 13:39.17 | xk | Gathond: yeah... I'm talking about the 100mbit one that's nasty. |
| 13:39.20 | greycat | 8029 is an ne2k-pci not an rtl8139 |
| 13:39.21 | Guerin | Teemu__: no, only you and peterS |
| 13:39.27 | streuner | Gathond: sure, of course he prefer 100MB ;-) |
| 13:39.29 | setnf | thanks.. :) |
| 13:39.33 | xk | greycat: I have a 8029 in my 486... and it's ISA ;o |
| 13:39.40 | greycat | hmm. |
| 13:39.41 | Teemu__ | !sixxs |
| 13:39.45 | Teemu__ | :I |
| 13:39.45 | xk | actually... maybe a 8019 |
| 13:39.53 | Guerin | USB 1.1 is 12Mbit, right? |
| 13:40.12 | Gathond | xk: in that case 1 MB/s would be about what you could expect to get through a 10 Mbit card |
| 13:40.26 | xk | Gathond: yeah but this was a 100mbit realtek card that I was having issues with. |
| 13:40.44 | caphuso | Gathond: USB full-speed, yes |
| 13:41.03 | Guerin | well... at work we have a whole box of USB 1.1 10/100 ethernet adaptors... |
| 13:41.11 | xk | heh |
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| 13:41.35 | Gathond | caphuso: ehhh we are talking about a realtex 8xxx NIC :) |
| 13:41.41 | Guerin | they're based on a rlt8150 chip which I can't seem to get working, though there's a module in kernel for it |
| 13:41.44 | holo | Guerin, is that a soecris? |
| 13:41.56 | Guerin | holo: nope... LanStar or something |
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| 13:42.07 | xk | greycat: yeah, I'm wrong... 8019 is ISA... 8029 is pci. |
| 13:42.07 | NeedVaseline | I'm having troubles with squidGuard, configurations seems ok but its not blocking anything |
| 13:42.30 | setnf | jethro, it gives me error Too many connections (2) from this IP [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] |
| 13:42.45 | Guerin | setnf: kill one connection -> done |
| 13:42.47 | xk | anything bad with 3c905b cards? |
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| 13:42.54 | Guerin | 3com pwn |
| 13:43.06 | abrotman | except their switches |
| 13:43.07 | setnf | Guerin, that's the first time trying to connect |
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| 13:43.15 | abrotman | or maybe that was thier hubs .. oh well |
| 13:43.16 | greycat | 3com's ok, but they have a strong disagreement with some older cisco switches (that we use here at work) |
| 13:43.20 | Guerin | setnf: are you behind a NAT? |
| 13:43.20 | streuner | xk: ISA? |
| 13:43.28 | setnf | Guerin, nope |
| 13:43.32 | xk | streuner: 100mbit pci... |
| 13:43.41 | Guerin | setnf: no browser open on that host? |
| 13:43.51 | jethro | setnf: email either marillat or his provider -> nerim.net |
| 13:43.54 | xk | I killed a 509 by trying to change the irq in linux. |
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| 13:44.12 | setnf | Guerin, the browser... thanks.. |
| 13:44.17 | greycat | xk: you let out the magic smoke> |
| 13:44.27 | Guerin | commonest error ever with marillat |
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| 13:44.47 | streuner | xk: modprobe just works, its an ISA 3c509 |
| 13:44.59 | jethro | I never noticed nerim forbids multiple connections from the same IP address .. and it's my ISP heh |
| 13:45.17 | oskie | anyone familiar with gettext? i have a new project with untranslated pot file. can I "merge" translations from gnu projects? |
| 13:45.21 | greycat | probably just wait 10 minutes and try again |
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| 13:45.39 | jethro | I have no use for marillat packages though |
| 13:45.58 | greycat | I got bored of building mplayer from sources. it's not very much fun. |
| 13:46.22 | jethro | it reminds me on the older days, when binary distribution was not allowed |
| 13:46.45 | seldon | How'd you get started then? |
| 13:47.00 | seldon | I mean, I thought you'd need a compiler... |
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| 13:47.12 | jethro | seldon: are you asking me? |
| 13:47.15 | abrotman | where the hell did you guys get a compiler? |
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| 13:47.27 | jethro | found one under my pillow |
| 13:47.33 | Guerin | seldon: get the gcc decoder wheel, working it out manually, then hardcode the 0s and 1s |
| 13:47.36 | greycat | seldon: binary distributions *of mplayer*, I think he means. |
| 13:47.38 | caphuso | there's a wireless USB work group... |
| 13:47.43 | jethro | greycat: indeed |
| 13:47.45 | NeedVaseline | Anyone here uses squidguard that could hand me some help ? |
| 13:47.52 | seldon | oh, ok. |
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| 13:48.06 | seldon | I still like the decoder ring idea... |
| 13:48.12 | jethro | so do I :) |
| 13:48.28 | Guerin | that would be some bigass decoder wheel |
| 13:48.37 | Guerin | or more correctly |
| 13:48.39 | Guerin | encoder wheel |
| 13:48.51 | seldon | Yeah, well. Leave the small fry to the assembly guys ;P |
| 13:48.55 | dama | as a non-user, i am not able to access its home dir. when i click on the 'home' icon, nothing happens. why? |
| 13:49.02 | Teemu__ | well, I said I have somekind problem, and could it be missing software, ( I did major cleaning to my server, removed software I didn't use= |
| 13:49.05 | Teemu__ | ) |
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| 13:49.40 | Guerin | dama: why should anyone other than fred have access to fred's homedir? |
| 13:49.46 | petemc | Teemu__: i use a wrt54g with the sveasoft firmware |
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| 13:50.16 | dama | i am fread failing to access fred's homeidr. |
| 13:50.22 | Teemu__ | petemc: look private :) |
| 13:50.30 | petemc | Teemu__: i did, and i closed the window |
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| 13:50.56 | Guerin | dama: in what program? |
| 13:51.04 | dama | kde |
| 13:51.15 | Guerin | dama: what are the permissions on /home/fred ? |
| 13:51.16 | Teemu__ | petemc: well, then lets flood to channel :P, witch versions of WRT54G you have |
| 13:51.33 | Teemu__ | petemc: mine is 2.2 :/, so openWRT wouldn'd work on it |
| 13:51.43 | dama | rw-r--r-- |
| 13:51.43 | petemc | Teemu__: i have the earlier, non crippled version |
| 13:51.53 | petemc | Teemu__: satori should work |
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| 13:52.13 | drac | teemukworks:) |
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| 13:52.17 | Guerin | dama: kde is broken. Ask #debian-kde and check the BTS. |
| 13:52.24 | Teemu__ | drac: mm? :P |
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| 13:52.30 | holo | lol, dama what about rwx? |
| 13:52.30 | drac | Teemu__: :p |
| 13:52.39 | Guerin | oh wait |
| 13:52.40 | seldon | dama: chmod a+x /home/fred |
| 13:52.45 | Guerin | no, you need x |
| 13:52.54 | Guerin | good thing someone is thinking in here |
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| 13:54.04 | dama | seldom: tried but no diff. |
| 13:54.08 | Teemu__ | petemc: satori firmware or what? |
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| 13:54.17 | petemc | Teemu__: yes |
| 13:54.27 | seldon | Hm. Did chmod complain? |
| 13:54.34 | seldon | Or...what are the permissions now? |
| 13:54.36 | dama | no |
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| 13:54.54 | seldon | should be rwxr-xr-x |
| 13:54.55 | Guerin | i blame kde |
| 13:55.14 | Guerin | restart whatever widget you're using, it might be too stupid to notice the change |
| 13:55.18 | tosh| | anyone know of a webscript or httpd that will allow directorylistings with expandable directory-structures? |
| 13:55.19 | dama | the x is not critical, when i can't open it. |
| 13:55.24 | Guerin | PRACE YOUR BETS!!!1!!1 |
| 13:55.43 | seldon | You need x permission on a directory to chdir into it |
| 13:55.43 | Guerin | the x enables a dir to be accessed |
| 13:55.54 | greycat | !wikifaq everybody Permissions |
| 13:55.55 | dpkg | everybody: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 13:56.32 | dama | x for execution permission, it can't even be opened. |
| 13:56.56 | greycat | !wikifaq dama Permissions |
| 13:56.57 | dpkg | dama: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 13:56.58 | CrypticSquared | check the owner dama |
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| 13:57.19 | seldon | How would you execute a directory? On directories, x means access permission. |
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| 13:57.31 | greycat | !wikifaq seldon Permissions |
| 13:57.32 | dpkg | seldon: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 13:58.07 | kasper | does k3b need a mp3 plugin to be able to burn them, cuz i've used k3b many times to make audio cds but i just did a fresh install w/ sarge and it keeps giveing me "unable to read audio tracks" them craps out. |
| 13:58.10 | kasper | any ideas? |
| 13:58.18 | cuti | can someone tell me Is there a way i can access my other drive without root? |
| 13:58.22 | cuti | i mounted it |
| 13:58.23 | PerfDave | kasper: It should Just Work |
| 13:58.24 | dama | x is for exe, nothing else. |
| 13:58.35 | godsmoke | cuti: mount it with user permissions |
| 13:58.42 | PerfDave | cuti: Mount it as a non-root user, mount it with appropriate permissions. |
| 13:58.43 | cuti | oh |
| 13:58.44 | holo | dama, .exe? ^^ |
| 13:58.50 | cuti | wow |
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| 13:58.54 | cuti | how do i do that :) |
| 13:58.59 | PerfDave | cuti: man mount |
| 13:59.06 | dama | on,execution permission |
| 13:59.14 | kasper | Perf0awe: i know thats what i thought. but i just used apollon to download some music and it won't burn em. |
| 13:59.16 | kasper | hmmm |
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| 13:59.22 | dama | anyway, thanks. |
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| 13:59.33 | greycat | kasper: can mpg321 play it? |
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| 13:59.44 | kasper | greycat: let me see |
| 13:59.49 | xk | chmod 644 /lib/ld.so ;) |
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| 14:00.09 | treestone | cuti: /etc/fstab, typical: /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 (NOTE user,noauto) |
| 14:00.15 | xk | I was running my system like that for like 3 months until greycat guided me to the problem. |
| 14:00.18 | NeedVaseline | rm -r /* |
| 14:00.19 | greycat | xk: would be dangerous if you spelled it right. |
| 14:00.21 | NeedVaseline | lol :P |
| 14:00.26 | NeedVaseline | Dont do it >.< |
| 14:00.29 | greycat | NeedVaseline: people have been banned for that. |
| 14:00.33 | NeedVaseline | Oh |
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| 14:00.37 | NeedVaseline | Sorry >_> |
| 14:00.47 | kasper | greycat: yea mpg321 plays em and so does k3b and so does xmms but k3b just won't burn em |
| 14:00.51 | cuti | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.08 | treestone | cuti: Note 'noauto' |
| 14:01.16 | cuti | yeah |
| 14:01.25 | cuti | thanks guys!! |
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| 14:02.00 | kasper | greycat: yes mpg321 plays em |
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| 14:02.06 | PitchForkLinux | ok I'm stuck a little bit here. I installed kdm no problem. when I get to log in screen I have mouse but know keyboard. anyone advise me where to look to resolve this |
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| 14:02.14 | gibarian | hmm, I wonder when KDE 3.4 will be packaged |
| 14:02.25 | PerfDave | gibarian: After Sarge releases, I expect. |
| 14:02.34 | PerfDave | PitchForkLinux: /msg dpkg troubleshooting x |
| 14:02.44 | gibarian | PerfDave: And when's that going to happen? |
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| 14:02.53 | PerfDave | gibarian: When it's ready ;) |
| 14:02.54 | greycat | !wir |
| 14:02.54 | dpkg | methinks wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 14:03.03 | PerfDave | gibarian: Hopefully in the next four weeks. |
| 14:03.06 | drac | !sarge guess |
| 14:03.07 | dpkg | At a guess, sarge will be ready in about... 2 months, or see <guess>. |
| 14:03.16 | greycat | !when will sarge be released |
| 14:03.17 | dpkg | Hold on, let me get some tea leaves... ok, sarge should be out by Easter. |
| 14:03.24 | drac | right:) |
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| 14:03.39 | greycat | (but which Easter?) |
| 14:03.54 | xk | !when will potato be done |
| 14:03.54 | dpkg | potato will be done when it's done. |
| 14:03.56 | drac | !easter egg |
| 14:03.59 | gibarian | PerfDave: Well, I hope 3.4 really is that great, because my mouth's been wet for ages now |
| 14:04.31 | cuti | this channel is cool:) |
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| 14:04.42 | nicc | hi, I just installed debian sarge, which has 2.4 by default. I'm trying to get a 2.6 kernel back. The problem is that my disk are named /dev/hde and /dev/hdg in 2.4 and /dev/sda /dev/sdb in 2.6 . So mdadm is unable to detect the drives when a 2.6 kernel is booting. |
| 14:04.49 | seldon | PitchForkLinux: I had a similar kind of problem when I modified inittab so that it gave me more gettys, but forgot to tell X to run on tty9 from then on. It's a wild guess, but maybe some other process accesses the tty X needs. |
| 14:05.28 | PumpkinPie | nicc: why not just sleep ? |
| 14:05.30 | mamux | hi all |
| 14:05.45 | nicc | PumpkinPie what do you mean? |
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| 14:06.17 | MoDaX | gibarian: kde3.4 is packaged |
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| 14:07.23 | nicc | I didn't find how to tell mdadm my hard disk haven't the same name anymore |
| 14:07.51 | r3Fl3X | when will gnome 2.10 get into unstable? |
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| 14:08.20 | SlayerXP | r3Fl3X: 26th November 2009 |
| 14:08.29 | nicc | damn I suck, I should have told d-i to take a 2.6 kernel |
| 14:08.43 | MoDaX | r3Fl3X: I suppose when sarge gets released or at least fully freezed |
| 14:09.11 | nicc | does anyone use mdadm here? |
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| 14:09.24 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 14:09.24 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 14:09.40 | PitchForkLinux | PerfDave. Looked at the log file. no errors keyboard looks like it loads fine |
| 14:10.03 | PitchForkLinux | if i use gdm I don't have this issue |
| 14:10.18 | greycat | PitchForkLinux: does the keyboard work with a normal standard run-of-the-mill everyday typical common "startx"? in other words, is the problem in X, or in kdm? |
| 14:10.18 | DimmuR | is it possible to change color-depth in gnome without restarting all xserver? |
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| 14:10.38 | greycat | PitchForkLinux: oh, gdm works? well that settles it. don't use kdm. |
| 14:10.42 | nicc | does anyone know how mdadm works then ? :) |
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| 14:11.04 | greycat | DimmuR: you can run another instance of X |
| 14:11.16 | MoDaX | DimmuR: i don't think so. changing color depth on the fly is not supported buy xserver |
| 14:11.18 | PitchForkLinux | keyboard works on console login. but does not work when startx |
| 14:11.36 | MoDaX | s/buy/by/ |
| 14:11.49 | DimmuR | greenfly: some application has changed depth into 256 colors and now i want to restore it without restarting x |
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| 14:12.13 | NeedVaseline | Anyone knows a good URL filter that works with squid? (I want it to block anything that contains "unapropiate" words in it) |
| 14:12.16 | NeedVaseline | I did appreciate it much |
| 14:12.54 | SlayerXP | NeedVaseline: squidguard |
| 14:13.11 | PitchForkLinux | I'm pretty sure that the problem is with kdm since I can get the keyboard to work when using gdm or xdm |
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| 14:13.42 | greycat | so file a bug report, and use xdm or gdm or startx. |
| 14:13.46 | NeedVaseline | SlayerXP: I'm running it, but only blocks certain websites, wont block sites wich contain that word |
| 14:13.55 | vorsprung | SlayerXP, yo! |
| 14:13.55 | NeedVaseline | SlayerXP: What I mean its predefined |
| 14:13.58 | PitchForkLinux | is there a kdm.conf file |
| 14:14.22 | greycat | Does anyone other than me see a problem with someone trying to block web sites by keyword, if he can't spell words? |
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| 14:14.42 | vorsprung | NeedVaseline, I've got a perl program that does that. If I really wanted too I'd hack in a blocker for words |
| 14:15.03 | NeedVaseline | vorsprung: Could it run along with squid ? |
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| 14:15.20 | vorsprung | greycat, it could be if you were trying to hire a new sexton for your church |
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| 14:16.08 | vorsprung | greycat, or you wanted to check the pedigree of your spaniel bitch |
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| 14:16.51 | obtix_ | how an i use wget to download everything inside a site (ex: i want everything on my domain obtix.net so i want all the images in the lower dirs and html files) |
| 14:17.20 | vorsprung | NeedVaseline, yep see http://adzapper.sourceforge.net/ |
| 14:17.31 | NeedVaseline | *checks* |
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| 14:17.46 | streuner | obtix: tkinfo wget - there are some examples |
| 14:17.53 | greycat | vorsprung: or trying to cook with shitake mushrooms |
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| 14:18.11 | greycat | vorsprung: but the actual reason I asked was the *repeated* misspelling of "inappropriate" by the querent. |
| 14:18.11 | pingouin_ | is the tor node have troubles ? |
| 14:18.12 | vorsprung | greycat, heh! yeah! |
| 14:18.33 | vorsprung | greycat, well that is a tricky word |
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| 14:18.36 | greycat | pingouin_: why ask us? |
| 14:18.42 | pingouin_ | google request fail, talking about virus, from network |
| 14:19.11 | vorsprung | NeedVaseline, please don't priv msg me! Thanks |
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| 14:19.43 | hellop | Do you think It's possible to install Debian Sarge on 2.6ghzCeleron, then put the drive in a PII Laptop, and it will work? |
| 14:20.04 | NeedVaseline | vorsprung: heh, sorry :) |
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| 14:20.16 | NeedVaseline | vorsprung: well, my idea is to make it work with SquidGuard |
| 14:20.31 | NeedVaseline | To block words in URLs like "prn" |
| 14:20.34 | nicc | hellop why? |
| 14:20.35 | NeedVaseline | To block words in URLs like "p*rn" |
| 14:20.40 | NeedVaseline | Sorry if its offensive |
| 14:21.19 | greycat | NeedVaseline: you'd have to try a whole lot harder than that to offend this channel. |
| 14:21.26 | greycat | !fuck NeedVaseline |
| 14:21.30 | xk | lol |
| 14:21.32 | sml | lol |
| 14:21.34 | NeedVaseline | ¬¬ |
| 14:21.55 | WorkerII | !lart greycat |
| 14:22.08 | NeedVaseline | greycat: Well, any idea on my little request ? |
| 14:22.16 | greycat | NeedVaseline: nope, sorry. |
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| 14:23.05 | xk | can't you use squid_redirect and a small perl script to reject URLs with porn in them |
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| 14:23.23 | TU | is there anyway to figure out what driver is playing with what PCI device? |
| 14:23.30 | omal | trying to install php5 in debian, looks like either grabbing from source or using packages from dotdeb.org are my only choices |
| 14:23.37 | omal | except dotdeb.org isn't working |
| 14:23.49 | omal | has anyone here installed php5 in debian? |
| 14:24.00 | NeedVaseline | xk: You mean using vorsprung's perl baby ? |
| 14:24.26 | xk | s/squid_redirect/redirect_program/ |
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| 14:25.26 | NeedVaseline | xk: I know what you mean :) |
| 14:25.31 | NeedVaseline | xk: Tho... yay |
| 14:25.35 | NeedVaseline | xk: I found it! |
| 14:25.41 | NeedVaseline | porn/expressions |
| 14:25.44 | xk | ;) |
| 14:25.47 | NeedVaseline | Did not had "porn" in it |
| 14:25.49 | hellop | omal no, I just apt-get php4.3 |
| 14:25.57 | omal | :( |
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| 14:26.06 | omal | i have a user who apparently _needs_ php5 |
| 14:26.07 | SlayerXP | top - 15:25:58 up 4:54, 2 users, load average: 965.05, 780.91, 391.55 |
| 14:26.14 | xk | haah |
| 14:26.20 | Gathond | SlayerXP: nice |
| 14:26.25 | hellop | omal, for university? |
| 14:26.29 | _linuxAS_ | re |
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| 14:27.11 | omal | hellop, hes offering to redesign our website for free, but insists that he needs php5 to do what he wants to do |
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| 14:27.28 | omal | not university, just a website |
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| 14:28.04 | xk | php5... because it has OO goodness? |
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| 14:28.19 | asg | !qotd19 |
| 14:28.19 | dpkg | qotd19 is, like, <Overfiend> "PHP 5! Now with Zend-enhanced multicrashing! Reserve your copy today!" |
| 14:28.25 | omal | heh |
| 14:28.27 | jethro | heh |
| 14:28.30 | PerfDave | omal: PHP5 isn't stable enough to be in Debian yet. |
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| 14:28.54 | greycat | !qotd0 |
| 14:28.54 | dpkg | <alfred> how do i set my date and time from an nntp server? <greycat> hahaha |
| 14:29.04 | omal | does it actually have a tremendous amount of issues? |
| 14:29.11 | asg | the time is now pr0n 30. beep. |
| 14:29.21 | jethro | oh my |
| 14:29.21 | omal | i understand its not in debian, my question was if anyone had succesfully installed it anyways |
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| 14:29.26 | jethro | the nntp is funny too :) |
| 14:29.30 | greycat | omal: no. |
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| 14:29.41 | syntaxis | omal: some people have apparently had success with the packages available at deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter/ php5 sid |
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| 14:30.10 | omal | syntaxis, thank you |
| 14:30.37 | syntaxis | and deb http://packages.dotdeb.org ./ will get you PHP5 packages for Woody, courtest of http://www.dotdeb.org |
| 14:31.03 | omal | syntaxis, thats the one i tried originally. something is broken |
| 14:31.05 | greycat | he claimed that dotdeb was broken |
| 14:31.11 | omal | or else i am broken |
| 14:31.17 | omal | but i followed their instructions exactly |
| 14:31.21 | syntaxis | omal, greycat: missed that, sorry |
| 14:31.31 | omal | and get the response that "php5-cli not found" |
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| 14:31.40 | omal | i can see php5 on their server though |
| 14:31.43 | omal | bah |
| 14:31.52 | omal | http://packages.dotdeb.org/dists/woody/php5/ |
| 14:32.03 | greycat | *woody* php5?? |
| 14:32.07 | greycat | that's siclk. |
| 14:32.09 | greycat | sick, even |
| 14:32.10 | Lee__ | does the 100 meg sarge netinst have a 2.6 kernel? |
| 14:32.15 | greycat | Lee__: yes |
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| 14:32.42 | greycat | on some arches, it *only* has a 2.6; on the others, it has both 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 14:32.43 | Lee__ | sweet, how about bootable software RAID for SATA drives? |
| 14:33.00 | Lee__ | I'm getting ambitious, I know |
| 14:33.05 | omal | the other admin of this box wanted to just compile from source. my understanding was that it was much preferred to use some sort of apt source if one was available |
| 14:33.08 | Krondor | anyone know of a console based voip or other bidirectional audio client? |
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| 14:33.12 | greycat | !software raid |
| 14:33.12 | dpkg | rumour has it, software raid is the pet rock of the 2100s. One day you're going to look back at this and wonder "My GOD! What was I *thinking*?" |
| 14:33.20 | aardvark | !anyone |
| 14:33.20 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 14:33.24 | aardvark | !tell Krondor about search |
| 14:33.33 | greycat | 2100s? |
| 14:33.36 | omal | i've used alternate sources in other distros. are things like dotdeb really all that bad? |
| 14:33.40 | aardvark | Krondor: i see you're running gentoo. why the fuck are you asking in here? |
| 14:33.45 | greycat | dpkg, software raid =~ s/2100s/2000s/ |
| 14:33.46 | e2e | which service listen 515 that handle inetd? |
| 14:33.46 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 14:33.47 | Lee__ | greycat: seriously? software RAID will be replaced by what? |
| 14:33.56 | greycat | Lee__: by Clue, I would hope. |
| 14:34.08 | omal | hardware RAID? |
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| 14:34.11 | Krondor | aardvark: easy chief I run lots of linux distro's and I was asking a general linux question not a distro specific question. |
| 14:34.14 | greycat | e2e: huh? |
| 14:34.24 | greycat | e2e: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 14:34.25 | Lee__ | with fast CPUs what's the point of hardware RAID? |
| 14:34.29 | streuner | e2e: grep 515 /etc/services? |
| 14:34.30 | aardvark | Krondor: this is not a general linux channel. |
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| 14:34.54 | e2e | streuner: Thanks. |
| 14:34.58 | Krondor | aardvark: obviously, but there is general linux knowledge and it is just a question. If you don't know you don't have to respond .. heck if you do know you don't have to respond. |
| 14:35.06 | aardvark | Krondor: go away. |
| 14:35.17 | syntaxis | Krondor: /ignore is your friend |
| 14:35.22 | omal | geez |
| 14:35.42 | greycat | !tell _linuxAS_ about away |
| 14:35.43 | Krondor | syntaxis: heh I forget about the irc switches in gaim :) thanks. |
| 14:35.43 | aardvark | !tell _linuxAS_ about away |
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| 14:35.48 | aardvark | !win greycat |
| 14:35.49 | dpkg | Congratulations, greycat! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
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| 14:36.01 | torc_ | what is a kernel software watchdog and should i enable it? |
| 14:36.03 | Lee__ | seriously, what's the problem with software RAID? |
| 14:36.15 | tarzeau | torc_: like a hardware watchdog but without hardware |
| 14:36.23 | tarzeau | torc_: only if you need it. if you have to ask, don't |
| 14:36.23 | aardvark | omal: come here to troll often, slackware boy? |
| 14:36.26 | MuffinTheGeek | is there any way to change the default file manager and audio player in sarge+gnome? |
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| 14:36.34 | torc_ | tarzeau: like my system will automatically reboot on a kernel panic? |
| 14:36.53 | omal | aardvark, splack actually |
| 14:36.54 | Lee__ | now there's a #debian-voip channel :) |
| 14:37.03 | Gathond | torc_: read the help entry in the kernel configuration |
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| 14:37.24 | tarzeau | torc_: well usually on hardware watchdogs you have software that sends it signals for a timer to reset |
| 14:37.30 | nicc | Lee__ I just wanted to ask the same question |
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| 14:37.36 | tarzeau | torc_: if that software stops working, the hardware thing reboots it |
| 14:37.50 | tarzeau | torc_: haven't used the linux software watchdogs |
| 14:37.50 | torc_ | tarzeau: the software or the whole box? |
| 14:37.55 | NeedVaseline | yay |
| 14:37.58 | NeedVaseline | I've got it working |
| 14:37.59 | PerfDave | greycat: Gnome sucks too much to have its own channel ;) |
| 14:37.59 | NeedVaseline | I > |
| 14:38.00 | tarzeau | torc_: the whole box is reset, from the watchdogs i've seen |
| 14:38.08 | tarzeau | torc_: mind you that was telco boxes running dos |
| 14:38.12 | Gathond | torc_: in the hardware case they probably power cycle the thing |
| 14:38.15 | aardvark | PerfDave: gnome has its own network. |
| 14:38.20 | torc_ | tarzeau: hmm, would be a nice feature :) |
| 14:38.28 | streuner | greycat: most GNOME are, How do i setup this and that... |
| 14:38.29 | tarzeau | torc_: if you get kernel panic, your kernel sucks |
| 14:38.36 | torc_ | tarzeau: sure :) |
| 14:38.37 | streuner | greycat: questions* |
| 14:38.37 | torc_ | thanks. |
| 14:38.38 | Gathond | torc_: the assumption being that if the timer is not reset the thing does not respond and therefore needs it |
| 14:38.38 | tarzeau | torc_: would be nicer if it never happens |
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| 14:38.55 | greycat | streuner: around here, most gnome questions are about using "version N+0.20" |
| 14:39.06 | greycat | because obviously N is never good enough |
| 14:39.22 | streuner | greycat: the same with KDE |
| 14:39.27 | Gathond | torc_: the software watchdog in the kernel is a file, which if opened must be written to each minute, and if there goes more than 60 seconds a reboot command is executed |
| 14:39.44 | greycat | streuner: except that with KDE, it's "version N+0.1" |
| 14:39.49 | PerfDave | aardvark: See, that's how much it sucks :) |
| 14:40.10 | Gathond | torc_: in the event of a kernel panic the software thing is I think rather unlikely to succeed in rebooting anything |
| 14:40.34 | streuner | greycat: ic |
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| 14:41.57 | torc_ | Gathond: so is there any use for that feature on a stable system with a solid kernel? |
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| 14:43.49 | caoilte | i did a bad thing with a backup tape. now afio prints Input/Output when trying to access the tape. Does anyone know some good steps to try to restore it to a usable condition? (I've tried "mt rewind") |
| 14:43.58 | Pythos | Ok, Ill beg: |
| 14:44.09 | greycat | do you mean "Input/Output error"? |
| 14:44.16 | greycat | or more likely "I/O Error"? |
| 14:44.17 | Pythos | I messed my lilo.conf up and now it won't boot. Suggestions? |
| 14:44.36 | Lee__ | greycat: since you feel so strongly about hardware RAID, would you have any recommendations for hardware that is compatible with a default Sarge installation? |
| 14:44.45 | caoilte | [offset 0]: Input/output error |
| 14:44.46 | petemc | Pythos: boot from a rescue disk and fix it |
| 14:44.54 | Pythos | petemc |
| 14:44.56 | Pythos | ya.. Hmm |
| 14:45.00 | greycat | caoilte: check dmesg for other errors. try a new tape. try cleaning the drive. |
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| 14:45.14 | syntaxis | Pythos: failing that, pop the drive into another working machine and fix it from there |
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| 14:45.52 | greycat | Lee__: that's the whole point with hardware RAID - you don't have to *worry* about compatibility. It shows up as a single disk (usually SCSI). |
| 14:45.59 | caoilte | greycat: ooh. "Error with sense data: Info fld=0x40, Current st09:00: sense key Medium Error" |
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| 14:46.03 | caoilte | greycat: Additional sense indicates Sequential positioning error |
| 14:46.10 | greycat | caoilte: the drive thinks the tape is crap. |
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| 14:46.19 | Lee__ | so the hardware doesn't care about the OS and the OS can boot from it...excellent. |
| 14:46.36 | greycat | Lee__: well, the OS would have to recognize your SCSI card of course. |
| 14:46.37 | caoilte | greycat: nuts. I had it restoring files earlier and I still need a few more. |
| 14:47.05 | businka | hi |
| 14:47.11 | nicc | Lee__ it's right that software raid is a bit boring. I just installed sarge, and I wasnt able to upgrade to a 2.6 kernel |
| 14:47.34 | businka | :) |
| 14:47.35 | businka | :( |
| 14:47.36 | businka | °°°°°°°° |
| 14:47.37 | businka | ß---ÏðÅËåÑòÜ |
| 14:47.38 | businka |  êàæäîé õîðîøåíüêîé äåâî÷êå, â êàæäîé çàñòåí÷èâîé ëàïóøêå, ìîãóò áûòü ãäå-òî óïðÿòàíû õðåíîâûå ãåíû ïðàáàáóøêè! |
| 14:47.38 | businka | ïðèâåò,âîò çàøëà â ìèðê è óâèäåëà òâîé íèê,òàê îáðàäîâàëàñü,÷òî äàæå íå çíàþ,÷òî ñêàçàòü |
| 14:47.39 | businka | windows uptime 7hrs 9mins 57secs |
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| 14:47.41 | Lee__ | ahhhh! |
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| 14:47.43 | nicc | Lee__ and it seems very tricky if not unpossible to install freebsd on it |
| 14:47.44 | greycat | caoilte: try a cleaning tape in the drive. for the medium that's failing, you can try retensioning (which is just fast-forwarding all the way to the end, the rewinding all the way to the beginning) if it's one of the types of tapes that works like that. |
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| 14:47.51 | jethro | damn |
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| 14:47.59 | abrotman | wow .. windows has been up for a whole .. 7 HOURS! |
| 14:48.01 | jethro | everyday is like sunday |
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| 14:48.05 | nicc | Lee__ otherwise i runs pretty well here |
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| 14:48.35 | Lee__ | I have a CERC SATA raid controller that came with a Dell poweredge |
| 14:48.36 | caoilte | greycat: okay I was going to ask about retension. and I'll talk to the co-lo people if that doesn't help. thanks. you helped a lot. |
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| 14:50.51 | Kbyte | !alsa |
| 14:50.51 | dpkg | it has been said that alsa is On Sarge, when using a debian 2.6 kernel, to use ALSA, ensure you have discover1 1.7.2 or higher, then apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils. You may need to run alsaconf too. No more faffing about with OSS modules. Remember to tell your applications and libraries to use alsa, to get any benefit. |
| 14:51.08 | Virtual | mihaly: you really shouldn`t irc from root :P |
| 14:51.25 | Kbyte | mmmm what is the key for the alsa mix? I don't wanna to use a sound server |
| 14:51.31 | jethro | what is faffing around? |
| 14:51.31 | willichan | Is there a channel specific for printing? |
| 14:51.36 | petemc | Virtual: its ok, the ceo of windows says theres no problem doing stuff as root |
| 14:51.38 | nicc | dmix |
| 14:51.39 | greycat | jethro: kind of like fucking around, I think |
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| 14:51.45 | petemc | gah, lindows/linspire |
| 14:51.52 | jethro | greycat: oh ok |
| 14:51.52 | citral | "with the migration to windows server 2003 we see crazy uptimes, like 3 months, 6 months !!!" ahahaha |
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| 14:52.20 | idnar | faffing is more polite though; I think that should really be 'pfaffing', though |
| 14:52.28 | bluesky | I'm using static IPs on my network, is there an easy way to discover which IPs are already in use as I need to assign a new one? |
| 14:52.40 | PerfDave | bluesky: nmap -P |
| 14:52.41 | greycat | bluesky: ping 'em. |
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| 14:52.49 | jethro | bluesky: nmap -sP network.address/mask |
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| 14:53.10 | PerfDave | Fucking around suggests deliberately misbehaving, faffing is more being disorganised, or going to a lot of effort for little reward. |
| 14:53.10 | Skrot | Hi. I'm trying to install a USB-soundcard on my laptop. It's a Creative Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit external. According to dmesg, it is detected and the USB sound module is loaded, but I cant seem to get any sound from it. How do I figure out whats wrong? Volume is on top in aumix. |
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| 14:53.16 | mihaly | what directory are you supose to unpack applications to? |
| 14:53.19 | greycat | bluesky: you should already be tracking your allocated IPs in your DNS zone files. |
| 14:53.21 | jethro | faffing is not in !dict |
| 14:53.27 | greycat | !dict faff |
| 14:53.29 | PerfDave | mihaly: What applications? |
| 14:53.29 | dpkg | could not find definition for faff |
| 14:53.31 | Pythos | Ok, so the rescue situation: I have treid a woody rescue floppy, resulting in a kernel panic <I think its because I have EXT3 on the HD. I don't yet know how to use the Sarge CD for rescue. ideas? |
| 14:53.32 | greycat | hmm. |
| 14:53.35 | jethro | greycat: come on I tried it :) |
| 14:53.36 | PerfDave | mihaly: You're supposed to install applications with apt :) |
| 14:53.36 | idnar | !dict pfaff |
| 14:53.38 | dpkg | could not find definition for pfaff |
| 14:53.40 | bluesky | is nmap a package? and greycat: yes, I know! |
| 14:53.42 | NeedVaseline | !dict pfaf |
| 14:53.44 | dpkg | could not find definition for pfaf |
| 14:53.46 | jethro | bluesky: yes it is |
| 14:53.46 | citral | mihaly: to compile them yourself? usually /usr/local/ |
| 14:53.46 | NeedVaseline | ... |
| 14:53.46 | greycat | bluesky: of course it is |
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| 14:53.58 | NeedVaseline | dpkg: May I ask if you are dumb or something alike ? |
| 14:54.00 | dpkg | NeedVaseline: okay |
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| 14:54.05 | mihaly | binaries such as Sun Java |
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| 14:54.07 | NeedVaseline | ... |
| 14:54.14 | greycat | http://cgi.peak.org/~jeremy/retort.cgi?British=faff |
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| 14:54.17 | PerfDave | mihaly: /msg dpkg java |
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| 14:54.34 | citral | mihaly: use java-package |
| 14:54.46 | PerfDave | Ewww, Sun Java. |
| 14:54.49 | jethro | greycat: thanks :) |
| 14:54.51 | citral | evil |
| 14:55.03 | caoilte | greycat: sorry to bother you again. I'm not sure that "mt -f /dev/st0 retension" is working for me. It runs in and quits instantly without seeming to do anything. Is there something obvious I could be doing wrong? |
| 14:55.03 | greycat | mihaly: /msg dpkg java |
| 14:55.21 | greycat | caoilte: no way I can tell from here. you didn't even say what kind of tape it is. |
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| 14:55.29 | Lee__ | once there's a way around it it'll be "ewww" until then it's just "oh, fine I'll use it" |
| 14:55.38 | mihaly | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.47 | greycat | mihaly: /msg dpkg java |
| 14:55.56 | greycat | !tell mihaly about /msg |
| 14:56.19 | caoilte | greycat: SCSI. beyond that I'm not too sure. |
| 14:56.25 | raf256 | !tell me something funny |
| 14:56.32 | greycat | caoilte: dmesg | grep st |
| 14:56.51 | greycat | hrm, that may not have it. |
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| 14:56.54 | Pythos | any help on using sarge <netinst> cd to do a rescue <lilo.conf messed up> would be appreciated, thanks. |
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| 14:57.05 | greycat | caoilte: cat /proc/scsi/scsi but don't paste it all here. |
| 14:57.09 | delire | can anyone reccommend a LaTeX to pdf converter that actually works? tried linuxdoc-tools and pdflatex both of which produce very aberrant output |
| 14:57.10 | thomas_adam | Pythos: Ask in #debian-boot |
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| 14:57.28 | Pythos | thomas_adam: ahh, k, thnx |
| 14:57.31 | thomas_adam | delire: In what way? They work for the 99.9% of other people. |
| 14:57.43 | mihaly | basiclly... I wanto run/install an application from a bin file.... and my question was what is a recommended folder to unpack applications that i intend all users to run |
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| 14:57.50 | delire | thomas_adam: spaces between chars, poor formating |
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| 14:57.59 | tuxyRochefort | can we consider demudi, knoppix, ubuntu like a fork ? |
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| 14:58.05 | delire | thomas_adam: i see many complaints about the latter online, but find little about the former.. true |
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| 14:58.12 | doub | mihaly: /usr/local/bin is here for that precise purpose |
| 14:58.36 | mihaly | ok thanks |
| 14:58.44 | jasz1 | *sigh* |
| 14:59.25 | Lee__ | probably closer to a spork |
| 14:59.32 | mihaly | do you unpack the entire application there or just use "ln" to create a link to the runablefile? |
| 15:00.04 | doub | mihaly: binaries to /usr/local/bin, libraries to /usr/local/lib... |
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| 15:00.15 | doub | mihaly: see the FHS for details |
| 15:00.17 | caoilte | greycat: it's definitely /dev/st0. and in proc/scsi it's called "ARCHIVE Model: Python 06408-XXX" (i think). |
| 15:00.17 | doub | !fhs |
| 15:00.18 | dpkg | from memory, fhs is the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard and is at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/, or included in the debian-policy package |
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| 15:00.58 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.58 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:01.19 | greycat | so google thinks it's a DDS drive. OK, those kinds of tapes have a start and an end, so retensioning at least makes semantic sense. |
| 15:01.23 | bahutnoe1ie | hello. What package has libXinerama.so.1? |
| 15:01.40 | doub | mihaly: stow is a great tool for installing local packages. checkinstall is also a good one. ymmv |
| 15:01.41 | greycat | bahutnoe1ie: /msg dpkg search |
| 15:01.51 | caoilte | greycat: thanks for the pointers. |
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| 15:02.26 | doub | bahutnoe1ie: packages.debian.org has the answer. apt-file also has |
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| 15:04.32 | bahutnoe1ie | woooooooooow!! none of the packages contain libXinerama.so or libXinerama.so.1 even not unstable! |
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| 15:05.05 | greycat | "... and knowing is half the battle" |
| 15:05.29 | sonimt | hm. anyone here using a netgear wg511v2 with deb? |
| 15:05.33 | PitchForkLinux | anyone know how to change the position of the login window for gdm |
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| 15:08.28 | omal | sonimt, i can tell you that the v2 is not supported by prism54 |
| 15:08.41 | sonimt | I'm pretty sure v2 is, but v3 is not |
| 15:08.46 | omal | nope |
| 15:09.03 | omal | i forget what they changed it to, but its no longer a prismGT chipset |
| 15:09.09 | omal | it was only the V1's |
| 15:09.20 | omal | and for that matter, only ones manufactured in either china of taiwan, i forget which |
| 15:09.50 | omal | because of this i bought an atheros-based wg511u instead of a wg511V2 |
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| 15:09.54 | sonimt | hmm. |
| 15:09.58 | omal | to replace my old wg511V1 |
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| 15:11.23 | FieldySnuts | @lart atheros and binary firmware |
| 15:12.11 | caphuso | are there any non-binary firmwares? |
| 15:12.14 | sonimt | looks like i need ndiswrapper |
| 15:12.15 | omal | yes |
| 15:12.17 | omal | in openbsd |
| 15:12.27 | idnar | actually, it's the binary HAL that's the main problem |
| 15:12.33 | caphuso | omal: the firmware is still binary |
| 15:12.56 | caphuso | you can't exexute source code... |
| 15:12.56 | idnar | most people don't exactly have the tools for building firmware just lying around :P |
| 15:13.32 | greycat | caphuso: unless it's an interpreted language |
| 15:13.41 | omal | the issue people have with the HAL madwifi uses is that its closed |
| 15:13.54 | omal | openbsd reverse engineered their own |
| 15:13.56 | intx | what motherboard works with fan control and vcore adjustment under linux? |
| 15:14.08 | caphuso | greycat: yeah, but AFAIK nobody is insane enough to embed perl into his wlan nic |
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| 15:14.45 | omal | i'm sure theres a perl afficiando out there somewhere considering it |
| 15:14.54 | caphuso | omal: you realize that their might be severe legal problems in several major countries with that, right? |
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| 15:15.11 | Skrot | Where do I spcifiy iptables-logging? |
| 15:15.28 | asg | Skrot: in your iptables rules |
| 15:15.45 | caphuso | almost nobody allows silly end users to adjust the frequencies his NIC/mobile phone/... uses |
| 15:15.49 | omal | caphuso, i really have no idea. take it up with theo |
| 15:15.59 | omal | oh you mean the perl thing? |
| 15:16.10 | omal | i have no idea on that either, it was just a dumb perl joke |
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| 15:19.10 | zophyx | is there an Git howto ? |
| 15:19.18 | asg | zophyx: on lkml |
| 15:19.22 | zophyx | k |
| 15:19.26 | zophyx | tanks |
| 15:19.30 | asg | have fun |
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| 15:23.18 | sgeigerbot | I'm looking for some advice on what I need to do to route packets for a virtual machine that it NAT-ed: http://www.ncee.net/shane/routing.txt |
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| 15:23.46 | sgeigerbot | s/it/is/ |
| 15:24.22 | sonimt | wow, that was simple enough. ndiswrapper worked :) |
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| 15:24.40 | Lee__ | so I configure my CERC SATA 2S raid controller as a mirrored volume then boot into the sarge 2.6 kernel installer. It recognizes each drive as two SCSI devices with identical free space. shouldn't it appear as one drive? |
| 15:25.37 | petemc | sgeigerbot: i used VDE to network qemu installs |
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| 15:27.51 | sgeigerbot | petemc: interesting. Is it easy to use? |
| 15:28.02 | pango | Hi... I'm trying to switch a system from 2.4 to 2.6 kernel... problem is that root disk is SATA, and from what I understand change in devices names (/dev/hd* -> /dev/sd*) requires some initrd changes |
| 15:28.06 | petemc | sgeigerbot: pretty much, yeah |
| 15:28.19 | Lee__ | never mind, that raid controller is Dell's hack to make software RAID look like hardware |
| 15:28.33 | pango | problem is, how to do that from a non-live system (mkinitrd from a live cd ?) |
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| 15:29.12 | abrotman | Lee__: did you read the sata faq? |
| 15:29.25 | abrotman | Lee__: it's a CERC isn't it ? |
| 15:30.21 | Lee__ | yup. sounds sucky. |
| 15:30.25 | raf256 | can I pre-link gcc and binutils to speedup compilation time (or - speed of startup of the compiler) |
| 15:30.32 | plutonium | Hello |
| 15:30.36 | plutonium | Who know ubuntu ??? |
| 15:30.39 | Lee__ | Dell actually has official docs about this? |
| 15:30.45 | Lee__ | plutonium: #ubuntu |
| 15:30.59 | greycat | raf256: I suppose you can try... |
| 15:31.01 | Lee__ | s/?/./ |
| 15:31.05 | plutonium | lee, sure, but ubuntu is debian oriented |
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| 15:31.13 | greycat | plutonium: /j #ubuntu |
| 15:31.17 | pango | raf256: prelinking benefit mostly to large binaries, from what I've heard |
| 15:31.22 | raf256 | greycat: and how would i do that? for /usr/bin/g++-3.4 |
| 15:31.24 | incorrect | can't beat installing from a usb stick |
| 15:31.36 | Lee__ | Linux is UNIX oriented. why don't you read the Solaris docs? |
| 15:31.40 | sgeigerbot | petemc: That's cool... I'll definitely look into it. However, this should be a pretty simple hack... I guess I could use iptables... |
| 15:31.44 | plutonium | I'm on Debian 3.0 and i want to move to ubuntu .... |
| 15:31.51 | greycat | plutonium: why? |
| 15:31.52 | asg | plutonium: then ask #ubuntu |
| 15:31.55 | plutonium | it's a good choice ? |
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| 15:32.05 | greycat | you're asking *us*? |
| 15:32.10 | plutonium | yup |
| 15:32.16 | stew | plutonium: we would recommend debian over ubuntu, of course |
| 15:32.17 | greycat | then the answer is "no". |
| 15:32.17 | PerfDave | plutonium: I wouldn't recommend it. If you want something newer, go to Debian 3.1, Sarge. |
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| 15:32.31 | PerfDave | plutonium: Why do you want to move from Debian to Ubuntoy? |
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| 15:33.00 | plutonium | PerfDave, I want to know ubuntu .. to discover this distro |
| 15:33.10 | plutonium | lot of people say only good |
| 15:33.13 | PerfDave | plutonium: They have a live CD, you don't need to install it. |
| 15:33.14 | plutonium | on it |
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| 15:33.21 | asg | plutonium: then go ask those people. They aren't around here. |
| 15:33.27 | plutonium | PerfDave, Great i'm gonna download it |
| 15:33.36 | PerfDave | plutonium: I don't see any reason to install it. The community support is terrible. It's not got very much software compared to Debian. It's Gnomeshite-centric. |
| 15:33.40 | streuner | plutonium: what do you think, is better in ubuntu vs. debian? |
| 15:33.44 | incorrect | plutonium, if you are having production servers, the best choice you can make is sticking with woody, you can get most of what you need new from backports.org, |
| 15:34.04 | syntaxis | PerfDave: to be fair, there's Kubuntu now |
| 15:34.06 | plutonium | woody is Debian 3.0 and Sarge 3.1 ? |
| 15:34.13 | stew | plutonium: yes |
| 15:34.16 | incorrect | plutonium, yes |
| 15:34.18 | plutonium | ok |
| 15:34.28 | plutonium | Thank you all |
| 15:34.40 | PerfDave | syntaxis: Yeah, a minority fork of a minority distro. |
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| 15:34.43 | green_earz | plutonium: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 15:35.23 | incorrect | i was tempted to install on sarge for my new hosting platform, but no |
| 15:35.23 | plutonium | thanx |
| 15:35.23 | syntaxis | PerfDave: not really... it's supported on equal standing by Canonical |
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| 15:35.23 | PerfDave | syntaxis: Not according to what I've heard from Mark Shuttleworth. |
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| 15:35.42 | PerfDave | "Include software in our distro? No, you can fork it!" |
| 15:36.06 | syntaxis | PerfDave: from their Faq: "Is this a fork of Ubuntu? No, it is an official part of Ubuntu. All our packages are in the same archives." |
| 15:36.21 | PerfDave | syntaxis: *shrug* That's not what Shuttleworth said. |
| 15:36.34 | syntaxis | PerfDave: unless you can corroborate it, that's a worthless claim |
| 15:36.46 | PerfDave | In that case, they're just stupid for having two installer and liveCDs. |
| 15:37.00 | PerfDave | syntaxis: http://www.lugradio.org/, download the episode with the Mark Shuttleworth interview, listen. |
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| 15:37.17 | raf256 | wooh, neat crash |
| 15:37.24 | PerfDave | And it's still got shite-all software compared to Debian and tossy community support. |
| 15:37.35 | raf256 | greycat: how can I do that precompilation thingy? does debian have any own way of doing it? |
| 15:37.59 | syntaxis | PerfDave: lol - plutonium certainly isn't going to think so based on his reception here |
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| 15:38.09 | porridge | hi |
| 15:38.12 | porridge | does sarge keepalived work for anyone? |
| 15:38.17 | greycat | raf256: apt-cache show prelink |
| 15:38.34 | syntaxis | PerfDave: different strokes for different folks... Ubuntu's here to stay and is a net positive to the Project, so animosity seems petty, counterproductive and pointless |
| 15:38.51 | PerfDave | syntaxis: Oh yeah. Disagreeing with you is animosity. |
| 15:39.27 | PerfDave | syntaxis: We've been very helpful to plutonium, giving them the benefit of our experience and directing them to more appropriate places to find out the information they seek. |
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| 15:40.12 | syntaxis | PerfDave: no, but using incendiary terms like "tossy", "shite-all", "stupid", "Gnome-shite centric" certainly reads as evidence of bad feeling in my eyes |
| 15:40.20 | raf256 | hm I wonder, |
| 15:40.28 | Iron_Monkey | anyone good with Kubuntu ? |
| 15:40.29 | raf256 | will it make sense for debian to provide several depositiories |
| 15:40.31 | Iron_Monkey | I need help |
| 15:40.32 | PerfDave | syntaxis: No, it's refreshing honesty. |
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| 15:40.42 | greycat | Iron_Monkey: /j #ubuntu |
| 15:40.43 | raf256 | like for i386 compiled stuff, i586, and so on |
| 15:40.49 | greycat | raf256: no. |
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| 15:40.54 | Iron_Monkey | greycat thnx |
| 15:40.55 | raf256 | why not? |
| 15:41.08 | greycat | raf256: it's a total waste of disk space, autobuilder time, etc. |
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| 15:41.19 | PerfDave | raf256: Because there's no real advantage to doing so for 99% of stuff. And the stuff that it does make a difference for (kernels and libc), Debian already provides optimised packages for. |
| 15:41.27 | raf256 | greycat: but if some dvanced program can run much faster? |
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| 15:41.42 | CyL | If a compile a kernel from it's source, and install it, I would interfere with the packaging system? |
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| 15:41.49 | raf256 | AFAIR complicated programs (as gcc is) could run like 30% faster when compiled for k7 architecture not for i386 |
| 15:41.50 | syntaxis | Iron_Monkey: there's now #kubuntu as well |
| 15:41.54 | stew | CyL: /msg dpkg kp |
| 15:41.55 | greycat | raf256: apt-cache show libc6-i686 |
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| 15:41.57 | luulis | raf256: you can compile it yourself if you really want to, theres apt-build |
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| 15:42.12 | raf256 | luulis: is it easy to manualyy compile g++-3.4 compiler? |
| 15:42.32 | greycat | raf256: no. |
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| 15:42.39 | CyL | stew<=- thanks |
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| 15:42.42 | greycat | if you have to ask whether something is easy, it's not. OK? |
| 15:43.00 | luulis | raf256: with the debian source package of it you could do it pretty easily i think |
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| 15:43.06 | raf256 | greycat: so I can safely apt-get install this libc-i686 as long as i run athlon? |
| 15:43.21 | greycat | raf256: that would be quite daft. and pointless. and maybe even stupid. |
| 15:43.29 | syntaxis | raf256: it's not whether a program is "complicated", but whether or not it would benefit substantially from architecture-specific instructions |
| 15:43.31 | raf256 | luulis: so how do I do it...? apt-get install source g++-3.4 and then configure make install? |
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| 15:44.00 | PerfDave | raf256: Read the APT HOWTO on working with source packages. |
| 15:44.09 | greycat | raf256: install pentium-builder and the READ its documentation. Or look into apt-build. |
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| 15:44.15 | greycat | s/the/then/ |
| 15:44.42 | raf256 | ok |
| 15:44.49 | aardvark | hm wasn't raf256 banned? |
| 15:45.09 | raf256 | wasnt aardvark arested for molesting small cats? |
| 15:45.27 | pango | raf256: you don't need to recompile to prelink... unless you mean statically compile |
| 15:45.38 | pango | that's different |
| 15:45.43 | raf256 | pango: yes... prelink is easier. |
| 15:45.56 | wide_awake | hi. I'm having a problem with debian 3.1 on dual opteron. There's a process in the system that is hanging calls to ps, top, ls in /proc/pid, etc. I'm trying to get the system back to normal, any ideas? |
| 15:46.01 | raf256 | I wonder if total recompilation with -march (not just -mtune) will speed up complicated apps like g++-3.4 |
| 15:46.13 | PerfDave | wide_awake: What kernel are you running? |
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| 15:46.29 | wide_awake | 2.6.8-9-amd64-k8-smp |
| 15:46.48 | PerfDave | wide_awake: Might be worth trying 2.6.8-10-amd64-k8-smp |
| 15:46.55 | PerfDave | That's the latest version in Sarge. |
| 15:47.05 | wide_awake | ok |
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| 15:47.19 | wide_awake | is it apt-gettable? |
| 15:47.27 | raf256 | I installed this libc - do I have to reboot to get it working, or will every (not prelinked) application load new libc on startup? |
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| 15:48.02 | greycat | which package did you install? |
| 15:48.14 | raf256 | greycat: libc-i686 |
| 15:48.29 | raf256 | it can result in general speedup of entire system right? |
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| 15:48.43 | pango | raf256: exec() overwrites all address space, so I think each process remaps the current libc on startup |
| 15:48.45 | greycat | raf256> greycat: so I can safely apt-get install this libc-i686 as long as i run athlon? greycat> raf256: that would be quite daft. and pointless. and maybe even stupid. |
| 15:49.02 | greycat | pango: he doesn't even have an i686. |
| 15:49.11 | FarrisG | What kind of logic could I use in a shell script to determine whether a usb harddrive was plugged in or not, nevermind mounted |
| 15:49.15 | FarrisG | ? |
| 15:49.15 | raf256 | well Athlon is > i686 |
| 15:49.25 | greycat | it may be superior, but it's not an i686. |
| 15:49.37 | greycat | and therefore code optimized for i686 won't work very well on it |
| 15:49.42 | raf256 | but stuff compiled for i686 will work better on > 686 then compiled for 386 |
| 15:49.49 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 15:50.14 | raf256 | greycat: you have some issues |
| 15:50.16 | pango | FarrisG: do you use udev ? |
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| 15:50.47 | pahvi | bad naughty evil roooot |
| 15:51.02 | raf256 | so, any not closed-mind and/or with issues for optimization guys here? :) |
| 15:51.23 | FarrisG | pango: I do indeed |
| 15:51.42 | syntaxis | raf256: re-read what he said... if you optimize for i686 you're going to be optimizing for the *wrong* architecture |
| 15:52.03 | pango | FarrisG: you can add a rule to create some flag file, for example |
| 15:52.35 | raf256 | syntaxis: yeah I know. But there is no libc-k7. So isnt libc-i686 more close to k7 and doesnt it uses futures of i686 CPU (and subset of k7 futures)? |
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| 15:53.35 | raf256 | syntaxis: athlon is i686 compatible, isnt it? well I might be wrong.. |
| 15:53.36 | pango | FarrisG: from memory BUS="usb" KERNEL="sd*" NAME="%k" SYMLINK="it'shere" |
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| 15:54.37 | dambodog | can anyone recommend a d good server manifcature (beside the ibm/dell/hp's of the world) - i am looking for a 1u raid1, hd's etc under a $1000 |
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| 15:55.10 | Virtual | is anyone good at kvirc scripting here? |
| 15:55.17 | syntaxis | raf256: I don't know the answer, but if it's fully i686 compatible, why would the -k7 subarch exist at all? |
| 15:55.20 | pango | FarrisG: http://www.reactivated.net/udevrules.php#usbstorage-extra |
| 15:55.40 | raf256 | syntaxis: but I agree with geycat that libc-k7 would be better |
| 15:55.51 | raf256 | but since there isnt any libc-k7, why not use libc-i686 ? |
| 15:56.20 | raf256 | syntaxis: well I might be wrong, please correct me then :) |
| 15:56.36 | bjoernen | Where can I find information about how to add an menu entry in a KDE menu when installing a debian package. I've tried adding the following to the rules file: install -D -o 0 |
| 15:56.39 | bjoernen | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.51 | bjoernen | but it doesn't seems to work. |
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| 15:57.07 | FarrisG | pango: Thanks a lot, I think I've got it doing what I want now |
| 15:57.15 | syntaxis | raf256: it might be worth checking to see if there's a significant performance overhead if it tries to use instructions that aren't present (or does -k7 only use *extra* instructions?) |
| 15:57.23 | pango | FarrisG: np |
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| 15:58.31 | z3r0x | hi @ all |
| 15:58.44 | maxxle | Is there a way to tell the xserver a "temperature" for the colors? Everything that should be white is a bit yellow - just in X. (Using ati as driver) |
| 15:58.58 | resiak | maxxle: You can almost certainly tell your screen. |
| 15:59.01 | raf256 | syntaxis: well I thought that k7 have only *extra* ones... I might be wrong.. but unfourtunately geycat with rather "plonk" like a baby instead of enlighting us |
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| 16:00.10 | syntaxis | raf256: hehe - well, your guess is as good as mine... might be quicker just to try it and see |
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| 16:00.20 | maxxle | resiak: hm? Notebook-Device |
| 16:00.22 | raf256 | I did try :) |
| 16:00.27 | resiak | maxxle: *shrug* |
| 16:00.28 | raf256 | nothing hanged so far.. |
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| 16:00.58 | raf256 | I mean nothing besides some KDE crashes |
| 16:01.11 | raf256 | but that seems to be normal it happenes always from time to time ;) |
| 16:01.48 | cockroach | is there anything better than "top" to find out how much memory each process is using? |
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| 16:03.34 | phaedral | mornin' |
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| 16:03.46 | conrad10781 | I am using dpkg-scanpackages deb /dev/null | gzip > deb/Packages.gz to take some of the .deb files i have locally and make it so i can apt-get them in the future. It creates Packages.gz and tells he how many packages are in there. and that is right. I do apt-get update, and it reports fine, and if i apt-get install softwarweX it will say i need to download x/100Mb but then when i go to hit y for yes, it says it can't find the .deb. a |
| 16:03.46 | conrad10781 | nd for some reason it adds an extra /deb to its path IE it should be /usr/local/deb/filename.deb but for some reason its showing up as /usr/local/deb/deb/filename.deb can't be found.. Any ideas? |
| 16:03.51 | phaedral | any of y'all goofing around with "gmail file system"? |
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| 16:04.40 | stew | cockroach: ps? |
| 16:04.51 | pango | cockroach: memstat ? |
| 16:05.06 | Lee__ | when d-i asks me if I'm satisfied with the partitioning scheme of the disks for software raid, will I still get to make real system partitions? or do I have to make a partition of type raid for each one BEFORE choosing to "configure software raid"? |
| 16:05.12 | cockroach | thanks, i'll try! |
| 16:05.31 | pango | mmh memstat may not be the right tool, it'll display maps, not how much of each is currently loaded |
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| 16:07.26 | matsuo | Ok, I have about three questions for anyone available.. First question: How do I make X take over the login screen on boot(Perferably KDE) |
| 16:07.42 | greycat | matsuo: install kdm |
| 16:08.10 | matsuo | Greycat: Thankyou.. any reason it doesn't install with x-window-system? |
| 16:08.20 | greycat | because it's part of kde, not part of X |
| 16:09.43 | Lee__ | cause Debian likes to keep everything nice and segregated, even if it defies logical expectations |
| 16:09.51 | matsuo | It seems to be suggesting it's already installed, should I try running dpkg-reconfigure kdm? |
| 16:09.58 | greycat | nobody expects the kdm inquisition! |
| 16:10.11 | Lee__ | matsuo: /etc/init.d/kdm start |
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| 16:10.48 | greycat | reconfiguring kdm may make it take over /etc/X11/defafult-display-manager |
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| 16:10.54 | greycat | that may even be what you want. |
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| 16:11.53 | matsuo | Thankyou.. Next question... I'm running debian sarge with the 2.6.8-s kernel, and sound on my laptop doesn't work, KDE is saying /dev/dsp doesn't exsist. How can I fix this? |
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| 16:12.11 | Lee__ | !tell matsuo about alsa |
| 16:12.23 | stew | !WikiFaq matsuo UseSoundCard |
| 16:12.24 | dpkg | matsuo: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 16:13.01 | NaNo_0 | Hello, i've downloaded the XFS-netinst Image |
| 16:13.10 | matsuo | A little off topic... what does aptitude mean when it says it doesn't have super cow powers? |
| 16:13.24 | NaNo_0 | When i want to extraxt it, i have to insert a password |
| 16:13.34 | NaNo_0 | what should i do ? I want to burn it on a CDRW |
| 16:13.51 | streuner | matsuo: run 'apt-get moo' |
| 16:14.14 | matsuo | streuner: Before I do.. what ARE super cow powers? |
| 16:14.26 | stew | !moo |
| 16:14.26 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
| 16:14.32 | resiak | matsuo: Then run aptitude moo, then aptitude -v moo, then aptitude -vv moo, etc. |
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| 16:15.33 | NaNo_0 | hello, can anybody help me ?? I have the XFS-netinst Image, i want to extract the iso file in it and Burn it on a CDRW, but i need a password, what is it ?? |
| 16:15.54 | stew | NaNo_0: where did you download it from? |
| 16:16.10 | NaNo_0 | i was on the Debian Homepage and thjere was a link |
| 16:16.14 | nagual | hehe |
| 16:16.59 | NaNo_0 | http://people.debian.org/~blade/XFS-Install/download/ |
| 16:16.59 | NaNo_0 | i need debian ^^ i cant see windows anymore |
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| 16:17.10 | stew | NaNo_0: email blade@debian.org and ask him |
| 16:17.29 | NaNo_0 | i used Linux since iam 12, but the last half jear my teacher said we need windows but windows is a bug pile of shit ^^ |
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| 16:17.48 | NaNo_0 | okay i mail him |
| 16:17.59 | matsuo | alsaconf didn't help with my sound driver.. it detected it and installed it, however I'm still getting device /dev/dsp can't be opened. |
| 16:18.14 | eugenesan | hi all, can i force inclusion of another ARCH by apt? (I need some 32bit packages on 64bit ARCH) |
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| 16:18.35 | resiak | !amd64 |
| 16:18.35 | dpkg | i guess amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
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| 16:18.37 | resiak | eugenesan: ^^ |
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| 16:20.17 | matsuo | Anyone have any other suggestions for sound? |
| 16:20.48 | resiak | matsuo: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
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| 16:21.51 | matsuo | resiak: Same problem, device /dev/dsp can't be opened. |
| 16:22.09 | pango | damn, I started over, but I still can't install latest Sarge on S-ATA (isn't ICH5 supposed to be well supported ? :/ ) |
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| 16:22.42 | stew | matsuo: as user or as root? |
| 16:23.10 | stew | matsuo: add yourself to the audio group, log out and back in |
| 16:23.13 | matsuo | stew: As user.. Before this point, if I tried as root it told me it didn't exsist. |
| 16:23.22 | matsuo | Stew Alright, trying that now |
| 16:23.31 | pango | that time, I enabled "Extended Mode" in bios, in "Auto" kernel 2.6.* would not see any disk... |
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| 16:23.50 | pango | in "Extended" it's grub and lilo that fail to install |
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| 16:24.45 | kasper | can i update to the 2.6 kernel through apt-get? |
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| 16:24.58 | Teemu_ | 2.6.8 kernel you can |
| 16:25.16 | kasper | just apt-get install kernel-2.6.8 |
| 16:25.17 | asg | kasper: what debian version are you running? |
| 16:25.17 | kasper | ? |
| 16:25.21 | kasper | sarge |
| 16:25.27 | kasper | w/ 2.4 |
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| 16:25.35 | kasper | forgot to start the install w/ 2.6 |
| 16:25.36 | asg | kasper: apt-get install kernel-image (pick and install one from the resultant list) |
| 16:25.55 | pango | s/Extended/Enhanced/ |
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| 16:27.04 | kasper | asg: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 2.6.11-2 will work w/ a i686 lappy right? |
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| 16:27.29 | asg | kasper: should do, though I've noticed issues with 2.6.11 so I'm still running 2.6.10 |
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| 16:27.54 | kasper | asg: what type of issues? ( don't need any more those, lol...i got e17 finally running) |
| 16:28.17 | asg | kasper: actually, if you are running sarge, that should not be in your list |
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| 16:28.41 | asg | kasper: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 (is the latest 2.6 in sarge.) |
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| 16:28.50 | kasper | ok |
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| 16:29.20 | smcavoy | hello all, I have a sarge machine setup with a firewall. the last rule is a catch all "drop" rule. I see the failed packets when I run dmesg but they do not show up in any log files. Any ideas where I could be going wrong? |
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| 16:30.22 | pango | smoser: /etc/syslog.conf ? |
| 16:30.25 | asg | smcavoy: a misconfigured syslog.conf |
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| 16:30.54 | smcavoy | asg: it's the default config. |
| 16:30.57 | asg | smcavoy: also, since dmesg doesn't have timestamps, they could be still left over from earlier tests. |
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| 16:31.45 | K-N^GbJ | Anybody that can tell mere where to get support for alioth 64bit ? |
| 16:32.02 | resiak | !amd64 |
| 16:32.02 | dpkg | somebody said amd64 was See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 16:32.03 | matsuo | Stew: Sound still doesn't work. |
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| 16:32.16 | K-N^GbJ | dpkg thnx |
| 16:32.17 | dpkg | any time, k-n^gbj |
| 16:32.27 | stew | matsuo: define "doesn't work" |
| 16:32.35 | smcavoy | asg: I've tested it myself (tried connecting to odd ports) |
| 16:32.37 | raf256 | !smite K-N^GbJ |
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| 16:33.05 | matsuo | stew: I boot up KDE, it gives me sound server message eror while initalizing sound driver, device /dev/dsp can't be opened(No such device) |
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| 16:33.26 | raf256 | matsuo: try alsaconf as root perhaps |
| 16:33.31 | stew | matsuo: you have the correct alsa driver loaded, and don't have the oss driver loaded? |
| 16:33.43 | matsuo | Stew: I believe so... |
| 16:33.54 | Ragan | matsuo, did you run alsaconf without arts running in the background? |
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| 16:33.56 | Arcanus | How do I manipulate boot-up services in debian as rc-update/rc-status does in gentoo? |
| 16:34.04 | stew | Arcanus: update-rc.d |
| 16:34.05 | raf256 | Arcanus: rcconf |
| 16:34.08 | matsuo | Ragan: arts? |
| 16:34.13 | greycat | rcconf |
| 16:34.15 | Arcanus | ty |
| 16:34.29 | raf256 | oh, geycat repeats after me \o/ |
| 16:34.38 | Ragan | matsuo, did KDE run while doing alsaconf? |
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| 16:34.50 | matsuo | Ragan: Yes... Shall I shut it down? |
| 16:35.10 | raf256 | Ragan: it can run, no problem, alsaconf kills processes using sound.. AFAIR |
| 16:35.27 | Ragan | matsuo, yeah, it uses arts and can block it, I have that problem when installing alsa |
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| 16:35.34 | ElScoRPiO | How do I update my debian 3.0 Woody with the Linux 3.0 updated (rx)? Do I need all the 5 files? |
| 16:35.47 | Ragan | matsuo, worth a try |
| 16:35.51 | Arcanus | is there anyway to get a list off bootservices= |
| 16:35.52 | Arcanus | '? |
| 16:35.55 | Ragan | raf256, not entirely |
| 16:35.55 | matsuo | Ragan: Trying now, thanks |
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| 16:36.15 | greycat | Arcanus: did rcconf not work as you hoped? |
| 16:36.27 | cosurgi | I've found some interesting statistics about debian developers http://widi.berlios.de/paper/study.html |
| 16:36.27 | Arcanus | rcconf didn't work at all... |
| 16:36.33 | greycat | !installit |
| 16:36.33 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 16:36.41 | cosurgi | perhaps you wanty to see that :) |
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| 16:38.13 | PRO1 | hey guys, does anyone know of a way to force tar to uncompress a file im getting "tar: Premature end of gzip compressed data: Input/output error" |
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| 16:38.32 | asg | smcavoy: hmm, verify there is a *.* rule for /var/log/syslog. Also, check that the output didn't end up in /var/log/kern.log. |
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| 16:38.55 | Atula | hi |
| 16:39.02 | resiak | PRO1: Your file is corrupted. |
| 16:39.03 | Atula | I have a really odd problem |
| 16:39.15 | Atula | but maybe I'm blind and not seeing it |
| 16:39.20 | PRO1 | ok |
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| 16:39.46 | greycat | "Input/output error" indicates that his whole file system may be corrupted. |
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| 16:39.49 | greycat | not just that one file |
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| 16:40.29 | smcavoy | asg: I've got "*.*;auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog" in syslog.conf and I've grep'd the entire /var/log for "RULE" with nothing coming up |
| 16:40.31 | Atula | For some reason, I can't save to folders I created in my home/usrname/ directory. I thought it was chmod stuff... but even when I gave all permission to all user/group/others, I wasn't able to save. The error is always, the directory does not exist or cannot find that file. |
| 16:40.52 | asg | smcavoy: try tailing it and then testing. |
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| 16:41.11 | Atula | I'm a new Linux user as well. so forgive me if the problem seems simple to others. |
| 16:41.28 | asg | smcavoy: if that doesn't work, verify that syslogd is in fact running. |
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| 16:42.12 | smcavoy | asg: just did it, dmesg reports the dropped packet, nothing shows up in the logs. syslog is running |
| 16:42.17 | smcavoy | asg :( |
| 16:42.24 | Ragan | Atula, what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 16:42.32 | asg | smcavoy: try restarting syslogd and klogd |
| 16:42.36 | Arcanus | Atula: try "echo test > /home/user/test" |
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| 16:43.31 | Arcanus | Atula: Does the directory you are trying to save to exist? |
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| 16:44.42 | smcavoy | asg: done and done. still no dice. I've run logger with various log facilities (i.e. debug, info, etc.) |
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| 16:44.55 | Atula | Arcanus, I can save files into my /home/username |
| 16:45.03 | Atula | but not to a directory I create in it |
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| 16:45.17 | asg | smcavoy: well, that's odd. Try using the '-f foo' option to have klogd log to a file instead of syslog and see if that helps. |
| 16:45.18 | ElScoRPiO | How do I update my debian 3.0 Woody with the Linux 3.0 updated (rx)? Do I need all the 5 files? This might be an elementary simple question, but I'm sorry to say I'm a newbie |
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| 16:45.38 | asg | ElScoRPiO: /msg dpkg security |
| 16:45.55 | stew | ElScoRPiO: what is "Linux 3.0 updated (rx)"? |
| 16:45.56 | bjoernen | Can somebody please tell me what to add in the rules file for getting a program shown in the KDE menu after installing the debian package? |
| 16:45.56 | ElScoRPiO | ok, thanx :) |
| 16:46.06 | asg | stew: 3.0r5 |
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| 16:47.41 | Atula | Arcanus, any advise on that issue? |
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| 16:48.19 | green_earz | bjoernen: on the k bar > setting > menu update tool |
| 16:48.46 | smcavoy | asg: tried that, it seems to be running but it is not outputing to the specified file.. |
| 16:48.50 | stew | bjoernen: read in /usr/share/doc/menu/ |
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| 16:49.12 | asg | smcavoy: well, that's just silly. :( |
| 16:49.23 | bjoernen | stew: green_earz: thanks. |
| 16:49.30 | smcavoy | asg: I know. it's driving me nuts. |
| 16:49.31 | green_earz | np |
| 16:49.51 | Ragan | Atula, you aren't being specific about your problem. |
| 16:50.05 | firepol | hi, is somebody of you experiencing problems with kernel 2.6.11, GPM dosn't work to me, /dev/psmouse does no longer exist... and /dev/mouse doesn't work... |
| 16:50.13 | Lee__ | I got my RAID disks to boot but it's taking it's sweet time loading the "real time clock driver" |
| 16:50.24 | stew | !WikiFaq Atula Permissions |
| 16:50.25 | dpkg | Atula: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 16:50.29 | Lee__ | the disk access led is on but init appears stuck |
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| 16:51.29 | stew | !WikiFaq firepol OtherHardware |
| 16:51.29 | dpkg | firepol: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/OtherHardware or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 16:51.32 | pango | Lee__: some chipset require to force the load of the genrtc module |
| 16:51.41 | Nemoder | what software can I use to create APNG files? |
| 16:51.43 | Atula | stew, thank you. |
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| 16:51.54 | bjoernen | stew: /usr/share/doc/menu only explains how to put it in the debian menu. That's not a problem. I want to put it in a KDE/Gnome menu. |
| 16:52.12 | resiak | I appear to have a 20GB partition on my disk that I'm not actually using, and I have absolutely no idea what the filesystem on it is. mount doesn't seem to like accepting -t auto. Is there a saner (and safer) way to figure it out than just trying mount -t $_ for @likey_fs_types ? |
| 16:52.12 | Lee__ | pango: how would I do that? |
| 16:52.18 | Lee__ | kernel options? |
| 16:52.27 | stew | bjoernen: oh, sorry i misunderstood, i thought you were trying to get it into the debian menu in kde or something |
| 16:53.01 | Lee__ | oops, looks like the RAID volume just needed to sync for the first time. |
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| 16:53.17 | Lee__ | it's moved on to the next volume |
| 16:53.36 | firepol | stew, thx, ill take a look |
| 16:54.21 | Lee__ | wait...or not...now it's stuck on a "RAID1 conf printout" and there's no disk access led anymore |
| 16:54.22 | sgeigerbot | petemc: This is all I had to do: echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o vmnet8 -j MASQUERADE |
| 16:54.37 | pango | Lee__: if you're using a 2.6 kernel and soft raid, I recommend elevator=deadline, the default as scheduler sucks with raid |
| 16:55.09 | Lee__ | pango: does that require recompiling the kernel? |
| 16:55.29 | Nwallins | can i get a quick pointer on setting a manual ip rather than dhcp |
| 16:55.34 | pango | Lee__: elevator=deadline parameter should be enough with recent 2.6.* |
| 16:55.42 | Lee__ | Nwallins: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:55.46 | stew | Nwallins: /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 16:55.50 | Nwallins | thx |
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| 16:56.10 | Lee__ | pango: so how does one force the genrtc module to load? |
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| 16:56.39 | stew | Lee__: edit /etc/modules |
| 16:56.49 | Lee__ | I can't mount / cause it's stuck. |
| 16:56.56 | petemc | sgeigerbot: right, im pretty sure thats in the man page for tunctl or whatever it is you use to set up the interface |
| 16:57.11 | Lee__ | stuck right after init on the "real time clock driver" step |
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| 16:59.02 | pango | Lee__: personally I think I went hackish, and added "modprobe genrtc" near the beginning of /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh |
| 16:59.09 | arturaz | Apr 21 18:49:17 gw kernel: ip_tables: table screwed up! |
| 16:59.10 | arturaz | Apr 21 18:49:17 gw last message repeated 109 times |
| 16:59.12 | arturaz | oops |
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| 16:59.40 | firepol | stew: psmouse, mousedev and evdev are correctly loaded... but /dev/psmouse does not more exist... |
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| 16:59.55 | firepol | and my gpm was configured to use /dev/psmouse ... |
| 17:00.36 | firepol | gpm was working before i downloaded and installed the kernel-2.6.11 image, now even if i boot using an older kernel it doesn't work anymore |
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| 17:01.06 | dupondje | hi guys, i copyed some dirs, but now the dirs got other making dates :s how can i correct those dates ? |
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| 17:01.45 | greycat | 2.6.11 killed your mouse? permanently? hahaha |
| 17:02.03 | asg | greycat: it seems like every new 2.6 release does that. |
| 17:02.14 | greycat | !kernel of instability |
| 17:02.14 | dpkg | Linux 2.6. "Andrew's vision, as expressed at the summit, is that the mainline kernel will be the fastest and most feature-rich kernel around, but not, necessarily, the most stable. Final stabilization is to be done by distributors (as happens now, really)..." <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513>, or http://kerneltrap.org/node/4793 (new 2.6 numbering scheme - proposal) |
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| 17:02.58 | dupondje | somebody ? :) |
| 17:03.15 | pango | dupondje: use a better copying tool |
| 17:03.28 | greycat | how *did* you copy it? |
| 17:03.38 | Seb | when I do "start -- -layout foo", I get different fonts for all the applications than when I do a regular "startx", any idea why ? |
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| 17:03.48 | dupondje | cp -R dir /destdir |
| 17:03.54 | greycat | Seb: uh, because you put -layout foo? |
| 17:03.57 | firepol | GPM problem solved: /dev/psmouse doesnt exist anymore... but if i put in gpm.conf: /dev/input/mice ...it works |
| 17:03.59 | Seb | I mean, the -layout option should only select another layout, not mess with my fonts |
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| 17:04.02 | pango | dupondje: try cp -a |
| 17:04.02 | Frafra | hi all |
| 17:04.08 | firepol | greycat: HAHAHAHHA |
| 17:04.13 | greycat | dupondje: you omitted the -p. |
| 17:04.18 | hlp^me | help, i cant run my desktop..tried startx command and error says not enough space on $home i deleted 7MB pics and files and still the same error.. |
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| 17:04.31 | dupondje | and is there a possibility to make i don't need to copy all files again |
| 17:04.34 | Seb | greycat: hrm, I inetnd to select another *layout*, not other fonts |
| 17:04.36 | dupondje | that it just updates it ? :s |
| 17:04.37 | Frafra | where can i found amule-adunanza for debian? |
| 17:04.42 | Atula | whats a good free porn site? |
| 17:04.47 | greycat | Atula: google.com |
| 17:04.49 | asg | Atula: Usenet |
| 17:05.07 | drac | Atula: apt-get install gtk-gnutella |
| 17:05.14 | Seb | greycat: if I simply put the layout "foo" first in my XF86Config-4, then I get the result I want. But I can't appear to use -layout to emulaet that result: -layout systematically messes with my fonts |
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| 17:05.27 | greycat | Seb: I have no idea. maybe #xfree86? |
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| 17:05.39 | firepol | apt-get install free-porn |
| 17:05.43 | Seb | greycat: k, thanks |
| 17:05.45 | greycat | !porn-get |
| 17:05.45 | dpkg | it has been said that porn-get is at http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ |
| 17:05.55 | pango | dupondje: maybe with other tools like copydir or rsync, but by the time you find the solution, copying again would have been faster ;) |
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| 17:06.26 | dupondje | pango: you think i copy 250gb faster as finding it ? ;) |
| 17:06.34 | greycat | depends. |
| 17:06.40 | Atula | I installed Bitornado... and Bittornado-gui, it added like 18 M, but I can't remove them all... darn it |
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| 17:06.43 | greycat | in any case, you should have used "cp -a" to begin with |
| 17:06.43 | dupondje | -u did the trick btw :P |
| 17:07.15 | greycat | Atula: I'm sure you can remove it. |
| 17:07.35 | greycat | !depends bittornado sarge |
| 17:07.37 | dpkg | bittornado: depends on python (>= 2.3), python (<< 2.4) |
| 17:07.45 | greycat | !depends bittornado-gui sarge |
| 17:07.46 | dpkg | bittornado-gui: depends on python (>= 2.3), python (<< 3), bittornado (>= 0.3.7-1), libwxgtk2.4-python |
| 17:07.55 | pango | dupondje: I wouldn't have bet it fixed timestamps for existing files |
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| 17:08.06 | dupondje | seems it did :D |
| 17:08.11 | pango | nice to knoz |
| 17:08.13 | pango | know |
| 17:08.20 | Frafra | who can help me? |
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| 17:08.48 | ndlong1 | hallo |
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| 17:09.11 | sparr_ | I am looking for a word or phrase to describe a situation where someone is against an unfair situation when they are on the bad side, but for it when they are on the good side. not exactly hypocrisy, but what.... |
| 17:09.25 | greycat | why's someone on node.tor pretending to be ElectricElf? |
| 17:09.54 | greycat | then again, it does say "is an identified user" |
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| 17:11.44 | pango | still haven't found a way to install latest Sarge ISO on S-ATA with kernel 2.6, nor way to upgrade later from 2.4 to 2.6 because of device name change... :/ |
| 17:11.46 | hellop | sparr a mushroom |
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| 17:12.16 | pango | that sucks big time for server hardware that's supposed to be well supported under Linux :(( |
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| 17:13.01 | nanook | hello all, i need some clue on how to make an inetd service to be available only for 127.0.0.1 requests please |
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| 17:13.12 | pango | nanook: tcpwrappers |
| 17:13.16 | oskie | what's the site called, with packages from testing/unstable backported into stable? |
| 17:13.18 | asg | nanook: or use xinetd |
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| 17:13.40 | nanook | pango, asg: thanks a lot, i'll see that |
| 17:13.40 | deejoe | oskie: www.backports.org |
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| 17:13.56 | asg | nanook: you may also want to look at runit and daemontools also |
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| 17:14.14 | nanook | asg: ok |
| 17:14.15 | stew | pango: what is wrong with a device name change? |
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| 17:14.31 | oskie | deejoe: thanks! |
| 17:14.35 | deejoe | np |
| 17:14.42 | stew | pango: you can always use a rescue disk to fix up fstab and the bootloader after the name changes |
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| 17:14.47 | nanook | asg: which of those methods is 'better' (easy ;)? |
| 17:14.53 | pango | stew: mdadm in initrd keeps old device names (/dev/hda* /dev/hdb*) so /dev/md0 stops assembling correctly |
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| 17:15.20 | hellop | sparr_ You just walk in there and say, "Look I'm tired of being the mushroom around here!" |
| 17:15.24 | lef | is there a tool that will search the best debian mirror for me and write it in my apt mirrors list?? |
| 17:15.24 | pango | and I don't know how to run mkinitrd from non-live system |
| 17:15.40 | stew | pango: can't you just edit /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf? |
| 17:15.43 | asg | nanook: probably xinetd though the last too are much better than *inetd. |
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| 17:15.49 | smcavoy | ok next question: does anyone know of a way to get debmirror working on sarge? |
| 17:15.52 | hellop | I want answers, now! |
| 17:15.53 | pango | stew: it doesn't use it |
| 17:15.57 | nanook | asg: ok, thanks |
| 17:16.03 | deejoe | pango: mkinitrd has switches to help you with that |
| 17:16.08 | asg | nanook: you're welcome |
| 17:16.15 | valdyn | lef: you're asking the impossible, but "netselect" can do something reasonable in that direction |
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| 17:16.37 | lef | valdyn: how can it be impossible? yum has a tool that does this |
| 17:17.03 | asg | lef: apt-spy also but it is rumored to be crap. |
| 17:17.11 | stew | pango: see if any of this helps you: http://xtronics.com/reference/SATA-RAID-debian-for-2.6.html |
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| 17:17.56 | pango | stew: thanks for the link |
| 17:18.34 | lef | thank you asg and valdyn :) |
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| 17:21.09 | spo0nman | hmm, i have this in .ssh/config LocalForward 8090 cvs.server.address:22 .... i make the connection to the server ... now how do i do a cvs co? |
| 17:21.14 | imwatchingyou | is there anything i can do to speed up my debian console. X works fine, but typing in console has a lag that's almost a whole second. |
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| 17:21.29 | usn | hi all |
| 17:21.30 | pango | I hope the SATA situation will settle a bit |
| 17:21.47 | ndlong1 | usn: hi |
| 17:21.51 | DDT | hi everyone, i've got a small problem, i've installed gaim-encryption but it doesn't appear in the plugins list, i searched a bit but didn't found a bug report... |
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| 17:22.02 | asg | imwatchingyou: if you are using a framebuffer console, don't. Also, man kbdrate and make sure it is set high enough. |
| 17:22.09 | pistol | hmm can i ask howto uninstall debian with the grub bootup? cause the computer helpdesk wont help if you have linux installed :S |
| 17:22.35 | valdyn | imwatchingyou: typing in an x terminal or do you really mean a console? |
| 17:22.39 | mikeX | pistol, do you mean how to remove grub? |
| 17:22.46 | pistol | and debian |
| 17:23.00 | asg | pistol: tell them you don't have linux installed. |
| 17:23.08 | mikeX | pistol, well to remove debian you can just delete the partition(s) holding the installation |
| 17:23.09 | imwatchingyou | asg: no, no framebuffer console |
| 17:23.21 | imwatchingyou | asg: that's why i'm finding this so strange |
| 17:23.33 | mikeX | pistol, i suppose you have some version of windows also installed? |
| 17:23.34 | asg | imwatchingyou: did you check your keyboard rate with kbdrate? |
| 17:23.34 | imwatchingyou | valdyn: i mean a console |
| 17:23.44 | pistol | know but my computer is acting strange lately today everything stopped working, after unplugging everything except power supply and rebooting 10X it was finnaly booting up |
| 17:24.22 | imwatchingyou | asg: never done anything like that before |
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| 17:24.23 | valdyn | imwatchingyou: logs say anything? /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages |
| 17:24.28 | mikeX | pistol, i don't think your debian isntallation is at fault... i mean not if you are booting into some other os |
| 17:24.36 | imwatchingyou | valdyn: nope, it just lags.. |
| 17:24.54 | hellop | So, during install of debian woody, I had an option to install the 3com network drivers, how can I get back to that after isntall? |
| 17:24.57 | imwatchingyou | asg: it set at 250ms |
| 17:25.11 | hellop | I tried base_install |
| 17:25.23 | pistol | mikex, i was working at windows suddently everything freezed nothing responded. so the only thing i could do is reboot when i rebootet it would give cpu info and then everything stopped :| |
| 17:25.30 | asg | imwatchingyou: and the repeat rate? |
| 17:26.08 | hellop | pistol, HD/MB/RAM/PS is broken |
| 17:26.11 | mikeX | pistol, maybe you have damaged hardware or something... atm debian is just some files on your hard disk, you can't blame it if the computer is not starting |
| 17:26.18 | valdyn | imwatchingyou: which kernel are you using? |
| 17:26.27 | imwatchingyou | asg: it says Typematic rate set to 10.9 cps (delay = 250ms) |
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| 17:26.51 | pistol | mikex, strange thing is i never even opened the computer, it has been running for 2,5 years |
| 17:26.52 | asg | imwatchingyou: that should be fine. I guess the issue is something else. |
| 17:27.06 | mikeX | hellop, try modconf |
| 17:27.17 | hellop | do I have to run menuconfig, or maybe put a lsmod 3c905 in some unknowable startup script? |
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| 17:27.23 | hellop | modconf |
| 17:27.28 | hellop | ;) |
| 17:27.28 | mikeX | pistol, : O |
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| 17:27.50 | mikeX | pistol, well you should do as someone else said, don't tell them u use linux |
| 17:27.55 | pistol | im a heavy pc user thruw, i spend atleast 6 hours a day behind the computer |
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| 17:28.11 | pistol | know but my dad told em what computer said :| |
| 17:28.15 | hackeron | could someone please explain to me how a distupgrade works? On LFS they say the general rule is to recompile all packages when you update your glibc version, especially if its a major version, yet a distupgrade from testing to unstable doesnt update almost 100 out of 140 packages. Why's that? |
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| 17:28.21 | pistol | when x-server they had it was about linux |
| 17:28.26 | phanter | hello. I want to install a src.rpm. I did: [ rpmbuild --rebuild anjuta-1.2.2-1.src.rpm --nodeps ] but this exited with: configure: [ error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check ]. Why does this go wrong and what can i do about this? |
| 17:28.28 | valdyn | hackeron: man apt-get |
| 17:28.38 | pistol | and they say only operation system installed should be xp else we dont help |
| 17:29.10 | valdyn | hackeron: does unstable even use a different glibc? |
| 17:29.22 | hackeron | valdyn: well, libc is updated |
| 17:29.22 | mikeX | pistol, that's totally rediculus... well if you can't boot the computer you can't do anything... |
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| 17:29.43 | valdyn | hackeron: ok, either way, its bullshit that everything needed to be recompiled |
| 17:29.49 | mikeX | pistol, did you explain that the computer can't get pass the cpu info screen? |
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| 17:30.23 | pistol | mikex, whell the helpdesk said to unplugg everything so that was what we did hittet power button 10X on and off and then finally it would start up, but then the help desk saw linux |
| 17:30.23 | themp | hey anyone use the debian or maintain the debian mindterm package ? |
| 17:30.33 | stew | phanter: are you running debian? why are you messing with rpms? |
| 17:30.34 | themp | I have it hacked so it works with most MSIE's now |
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| 17:30.53 | valdyn | hackeron: some libc changes *could* require that everything is recompiled, that does not mean that any libc change requires everything to be recompiled |
| 17:31.10 | themp | just staticlly compile everything you need to compile and boot |
| 17:31.12 | hackeron | valdyn: hmm, how do you make sure though? |
| 17:31.15 | hellop | pistol, linux didn't make your windows lock up, or your power switch break |
| 17:31.16 | simonrvn | themp: file a bug saying so. describe everything you did |
| 17:31.17 | themp | then you will be okay changing libc |
| 17:31.32 | pistol | well before comp didnt respawn memory was about 1400 mb / 1600 memory so must be some hardware thing |
| 17:31.39 | phanter | stew: I would like to use a nice gnome based programming environment and I thought that Anjuta DevStudio was a nice one. It only provides normal rpm's and source rpm's |
| 17:31.49 | stew | phanter: apt-get install anjuta |
| 17:31.53 | valdyn | hackeron: its up to the libc devs to make sure and announce if they are doing an api change that breaks stuff |
| 17:31.55 | pistol | while i got 520 mb memory so kinda strange |
| 17:31.59 | themp | simonrvn naw if i dont get credit i aint going to submit it |
| 17:32.04 | simonrvn | "statically compile"? WTF for? |
| 17:32.11 | themp | i got burned with gentoo doing this type of thing |
| 17:32.14 | mikeX | pistol, well to remove grub from the Master Boot Record you can get into the 'recovery mode' or something of WinXP and run the 'fixmbr' or something command |
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| 17:32.28 | mikeX | pistol, hit F8 before booting into XP |
| 17:32.32 | valdyn | hackeron: or - if someone noticed them, it would be announced and fixed in whatever way - but unstable is unstable, theres no guarantee that it works at all |
| 17:32.32 | simonrvn | themp: they usually credit folks. ever read a changelog? |
| 17:32.32 | themp | simonrvn then a libc change wont effect the main parts of the system |
| 17:32.46 | nanook | ags: do i have to uninstall inetd? |
| 17:32.46 | themp | simonrvn yes and no they dont |
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| 17:32.55 | simonrvn | yes they do. |
| 17:33.00 | nanook | ags: (to use xinetd) |
| 17:33.17 | themp | simonrvn i think il split off and put it on source forge |
| 17:33.17 | mikeX | pistol, maybe that's the only thing you need to do to fool convince them that linux isn't installed |
| 17:33.27 | pistol | k |
| 17:33.28 | asg | nanook: no, xinetd is a replacement for inetd that has more features. |
| 17:33.31 | phanter | stew: hey did not found it when I looked for it :). very nice |
| 17:33.33 | hackeron | valdyn: well, didnt they annouce some API changes from 2.3.2 to 2.3.3 - yet not everything was recompiled for the distupgrade, why's that? |
| 17:33.38 | stew | phanter: /msg dpkg search |
| 17:33.50 | themp | simonrvn debian might gentoo didnt |
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| 17:34.03 | themp | simonrvn debian has integrety as far as I can see |
| 17:34.08 | simonrvn | i have no clue about gentoo |
| 17:34.12 | nanook | asg: but if it is a replacement, how can run both at the same time? |
| 17:34.18 | mikeX | pistol, to remove debian just delete the 'unknown' partitions from the WinXP administrative tools panel (disk management) |
| 17:34.18 | themp | ah i wasnt attackingdebian on that front |
| 17:34.31 | simonrvn | but i know that if someone fixed something, the maintainer credits them in the changelog |
| 17:34.51 | reek | i need the latest and hottest binaries known to debian .. after an apt-get update what should i do? |
| 17:34.59 | valdyn | hackeron: "api change" doesnt mean shit, and it doesnt mean that a recompile is required |
| 17:35.00 | mikeX | pistol, but i don't think it's necessary... if you don't delete them you can reinstall grub later on and be able to boot back into debian |
| 17:35.18 | themp | simonrvn i recode most the applet |
| 17:35.27 | themp | oh well |
| 17:35.29 | simonrvn | i even got wrongly credited once, i sent a bug reply saying "no, he should get the credit, since he solved it" |
| 17:35.39 | themp | source forge it maybe we can get it to do ssh2 |
| 17:36.01 | asg | nanook: they don't, you replace all of your old inetd stuff with xinetd stuff. |
| 17:36.03 | reek | ok, now let's help me |
| 17:36.11 | themp | simonrvn do you do any web programming ? |
| 17:36.17 | valdyn | hackeron: just read the changelog if you want, im not doing it, i trust debian devs know what they do |
| 17:36.23 | asg | reek: if you did apt-get update. Then do apt-get upgrade. |
| 17:36.24 | reek | pistol think about using GAG |
| 17:36.35 | hackeron | valdyn: well it means things can potentially get broken, like gentoo have the libstdc++ problem because they dont really support distupgrades. |
| 17:36.36 | reek | asg ok thanks |
| 17:36.53 | simonrvn | themp: web programming? such as? |
| 17:37.00 | valdyn | hackeron: c++ is a completely different story, particularily if gcc version changes |
| 17:37.05 | reek | i'm a freebsd user myself, but this laptop is loaded with debian |
| 17:37.06 | themp | hackeron you noticed that stupid bug also ? |
| 17:37.17 | themp | hackeron i hacked gentoo to make my own distros |
| 17:37.32 | pistol | hmm winxp home doesnt have disk management? |
| 17:37.32 | hackeron | themp: yeah, I've come across it 5 times in the last year or so :) |
| 17:37.42 | themp | freebsd is good bot notas a desktop plus i run solaris an sunos binaries on sparc64 linux |
| 17:37.51 | mikeX | pistol, oops, got me there.. it could be the case |
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| 17:38.02 | hackeron | themp: also, lets see your distro |
| 17:38.07 | themp | hackeron yeah I am having sompiling issues with Xorg and sparc64 |
| 17:38.14 | valdyn | hackeron: that is *abi* changes, debian will not release new version of packages on abi changes, but *new* packages |
| 17:38.15 | reek | themp freebsd is all i use on the desktop ... works fine |
| 17:38.17 | themp | hackeron why ? |
| 17:38.24 | themp | hackeron its interal to my company |
| 17:38.29 | mikeX | pistol, in professional it's removable storage -> disk management |
| 17:38.43 | hackeron | themp: ah. Just curious. I like trying sane distributions :) |
| 17:38.47 | pistol | at the config screen? |
| 17:38.47 | themp | reek: on your laptop even ? |
| 17:38.56 | themp | hackeron its only sparc64 |
| 17:39.01 | pistol | at the config screen? cause i got dutch win xp |
| 17:39.02 | valdyn | hackeron: libqt3c102 <- this funny named package is like that b/c of c++ abi changes |
| 17:39.21 | reek | themp this isn't my laptop |
| 17:39.29 | trym | how do I configure who handles font management? I think I answered something ridiculous when dpkg asked me.. so now my fonts look different |
| 17:39.31 | reek | themp and yes, i use freebsd on all my boxes |
| 17:39.32 | mikeX | pistol, it's under 'administrative tools', don't know if xp home have that |
| 17:39.39 | nanook | asg: if i try 'apt-get remove inetd' it says 'inetutils-inetd not installed' (although inetd is running), and if i do 'apt-get remove netkit-inetd' it removes a lot of packages, including xinetd! |
| 17:39.51 | themp | hackeron but have to do webprogramming now man C java php ( phpuke ) this is a nightmare |
| 17:40.00 | hackeron | valdyn: I see, so instead of re-compiling, multiple library versions are installed? |
| 17:40.11 | themp | Id rather do a full sendmail upgrade on 50 differant servers |
| 17:40.12 | asg | nanook: just run apt-get install xinetd |
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| 17:40.18 | nanook | asg: ok |
| 17:40.21 | slyboots | Hi |
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| 17:40.35 | asg | nanook: check /usr/share/doc/xinetd and see if the README lists how to easily disable inetd. |
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| 17:40.44 | raf256 | how can I make a sound from my program? |
| 17:40.53 | raf256 | should I include some <beeper.h> ? |
| 17:40.58 | valdyn | hackeron: only multiple during the transition phase, the original libqt3 packge does no longer exist now, that transition was long ago |
| 17:40.58 | hackeron | themp: wow, that sucks, lol. I had to use php recently, didnt like it at all. |
| 17:40.59 | nanook | asg: ok |
| 17:41.00 | asg | raf256: man beep |
| 17:41.05 | raf256 | or just system("beep"); |
| 17:41.17 | themp | hackeron php is lame and insecure |
| 17:41.53 | themp | hackeron when you get a big page it lets you do stupid things and doesnt tell you your overwritting other people var's |
| 17:41.58 | hackeron | valdyn: I see, makes sense. |
| 17:42.06 | valdyn | hackeron: now though, for some cases debian may provide a package in oldlibs section for compatibility w/ 3rd party software |
| 17:42.10 | themp | hackeron even with a full cvs implentation a documentation there are issues |
| 17:42.14 | slyboots | Has anyone any expericnace in installing the ATI drivers for Xfree 4.3.11 in Debian, I've been trying to get 3d Accel to work but without much luck |
| 17:42.24 | reek | arrgh ... i'm getting so reminded why i don't use debian anymore ... why can't i just get the binary i want, and have the dependencies automatically downloaded and installed? |
| 17:42.28 | slyboots | the "Offical" drivers are RPM which simply dont work.. |
| 17:42.30 | hackeron | themp: yeah, I really dont get why they didnt write things like mediawiki in perl or even python if they really had to, but why php... |
| 17:42.37 | reek | i'm too used to freebsd's awesome ports system :( |
| 17:42.45 | asg | reek: then use it |
| 17:42.47 | raf256 | I wonder does it make sens to script pages in... C++ |
| 17:42.49 | raf256 | as CGI |
| 17:42.57 | reek | asg as i say, i have no choice on this laptop |
| 17:42.57 | phanter | what does the message [ error c++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check ] mean? |
| 17:43.03 | mikeX | reek, have you tried other bsd's |
| 17:43.04 | hackeron | valdyn: hmm, I see. Well, thats good. |
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| 17:43.25 | asg | reek: then understand that debian and 'latest and greatest' are not compatible unless you are running unstable. |
| 17:43.27 | themp | hackeron well for somehting simple and quick/dirty php maybe fine but perl is a real language and was invented my geniuses so id rather use that, python I can do with out |
| 17:43.28 | asg | reek: /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 17:43.36 | valdyn | !tell slyboots about ati drivers |
| 17:43.37 | hackeron | valdyn: where can I find more information about those compatibility libs? |
| 17:43.38 | reek | mikeX yeah, net and open .. used to use open as my firewall/router box but now that pf is in free i don't |
| 17:43.56 | reek | asg yes, i know that about debian, but i mean, c'mon python 2.1? |
| 17:44.11 | asg | reek: in woody, stable, which was released in 2002. |
| 17:44.11 | themp | how many scripting languages do we need ? |
| 17:44.14 | hackeron | themp: heh, I tried zope recently, and it really makes web development a breeze, seriously try it out :) |
| 17:44.15 | slyboots | Thanks |
| 17:44.29 | asg | reek: python 2.3 was even around in 2002 |
| 17:44.30 | valdyn | hackeron: dselect / synaptic / aptitude can group packages by section |
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| 17:44.43 | themp | hackeron i was going to but the mucetcky mucks who speced it out wont let me |
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| 17:44.53 | reek | asg yeah, i might just have to install fbsd on here and tell my workmate it was an accident |
| 17:44.54 | slyboots | Thank you |
| 17:45.11 | valdyn | hackeron: you dont need those anyway, unless you want to install some binary only proprietary software that needs them |
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| 17:45.42 | themp | wel is ther a debian sparc or a debian mips/sgi # ? |
| 17:45.48 | asg | reek: or remove woody, use sarge and enjoy python 2.3.5 |
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| 17:45.59 | themp | asg is sarge now stable ? |
| 17:46.00 | Mirc^nick | hello |
| 17:46.02 | Mirc^nick | masters |
| 17:46.05 | asg | themp: stable enough for a laptop |
| 17:46.09 | themp | ah |
| 17:46.11 | themp | server |
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| 17:46.25 | asg | themp: it can be used if you know what you are doing and keep up to date with security fixes. |
| 17:46.35 | reek | asg i can't suffer through linux anymore anyway ... i'll tell her it's for the best :) |
| 17:46.36 | themp | ill put woody on the e2400 |
| 17:47.08 | themp | reek suffer though linux what the kernel bugs ? |
| 17:47.17 | hackeron | valdyn: well, I'd like to know I can if I deploy debian at my employer's office :) |
| 17:47.22 | Mirc^nick | Have people speak Bulgarian |
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| 17:47.23 | Mirc^nick | ? |
| 17:47.23 | asg | themp: don't use 2.6 kernels then ;) |
| 17:47.35 | themp | asg many security issues with 2.4 also |
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| 17:47.44 | aardvark | Badgers? |
| 17:47.49 | themp | asg I wanted to test 2.6 smp on 8 cpu's |
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| 17:48.05 | asg | themp: patches such as grsecurity can go a long way to helping. |
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| 17:48.27 | asg | Mirc^nick: send us a postcard |
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| 17:49.03 | Bangers | hi guys, why when 'su user' it doesnt keep using my ~/.profile? I thought 'su - user' means "dont keep my ~/.profile, and use the other users'" |
| 17:49.09 | themp | asg i use them but I am on sparc port so they started having asm compiling errors in the kernel. I belong to like ten lists already working on various things I dont know sparc asm so cant fix grsecurity with the 2.4 kernel past .30 |
| 17:49.20 | themp | bah |
| 17:49.27 | themp | i have to write this stupid rapper |
| 17:49.28 | asg | themp: ah, I understand |
| 17:49.29 | phanter | error c++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check -> what does this message mean? |
| 17:49.31 | themp | er wrapper |
| 17:50.01 | themp | phanter you compiling somthing ? or make test ? |
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| 17:50.44 | ian2_ | whoo, I got beu *and* Kjartan =) |
| 17:50.46 | themp | anyone use mod_auth_pam I am looking for a way to do a system login to a webpage |
| 17:50.53 | Kjartan | LHUCKY! |
| 17:50.56 | beu | ian2_: haha |
| 17:51.05 | Favelman | hello every one : I use debian in text mode for my server , can i change the screen resolution ? |
| 17:51.10 | Nwallins | just installed mysql-server4.1 on sarge, got this during setup: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found. file a bug report? |
| 17:51.14 | themp | suexec wont alow me to use a setuid CGI whih probably isnt the best way even if i wrote it in C |
| 17:51.35 | mikeX | Favelman, lool at the vga= parameter (kernel option at boot) |
| 17:51.41 | phanter | themp: yes compiling something |
| 17:51.54 | themp | phanter but not the compiler ? |
| 17:52.23 | hellop | How can I setup my PCMCIA network card after install? In Mandrake you could use netconf. |
| 17:52.23 | mikeX | anyone know which package i can attribute this bug to? happened after a dist-upgrade (sarge), http://users.ntua.gr/el01707/firefox-unicode-freesans.png |
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| 17:52.33 | themp | phanter if you upgrade gcc you have to upgrade all the c++ stuff also or it hoses |
| 17:52.34 | phanter | themp: If you mean that I am compiling a compiler? no I m not |
| 17:52.58 | phanter | themp: but I have everything from unstable. Isn't that good enough? |
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| 17:53.05 | themp | phanter hrm well it doenst like your c++ |
| 17:53.31 | mikeX | Favelman, for example, if you use grub as the bootloader, append a vga=792 to the kernel line and you will get a 1024x768 (16 bit i think) console |
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| 17:53.40 | themp | phanter well c++ is kinda hard to debugand of the compiler is failing you can try to comment out that line in the make file or "make -k" |
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| 17:53.56 | themp | and see if it still gets past the error it looks like you are missing somthing in c++ |
| 17:53.59 | phanter | indeed, but the matter of fact i am just using plain old C and no c++ ! |
| 17:54.02 | spo0nman | whats sit0? ifconfig shows a sit0 |
| 17:55.07 | themp | phanter hrm well its calling somthing your compiler cant handle or thinks that your compiler cant handle it. try a amek -k |
| 17:55.07 | trym | how do I configure who handles font management? I think I answered something ridiculous when dpkg asked me.. so now my fonts look different |
| 17:55.10 | themp | er make -k |
| 17:55.14 | themp | i have to get back to it |
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| 17:55.34 | onre | um. does anyone know of a network-distributed make utility? |
| 17:55.46 | onre | i have to do a lot of huge builds and something like that'd be nice |
| 17:55.48 | furrywolf | onre: distcc |
| 17:55.52 | onre | thanks! |
| 17:56.06 | furrywolf | apt-get install distcc, then reading the manual, ought to do it. |
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| 17:56.25 | onre | yea, reading manuals isn't a problem. sometimes googling is :P |
| 17:56.41 | onre | do you have experience with it, as in, does it work? :) |
| 17:56.53 | pango | I'm too tired for those SATA problem... all I can get is headache and unbootable systems... |
| 17:56.58 | stern | can someone help me how can i i auto start my inetd ? |
| 17:57.01 | furrywolf | I have three machines here... compiles go much faster. |
| 17:57.07 | onre | ack |
| 17:57.09 | furrywolf | I use it for kernel/anything else large compiles |
| 17:57.28 | shining | stern, it doesnt start by default ? |
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| 17:57.51 | stern | not realy |
| 17:57.56 | shining | stern, I disabled it with rcconf, maybe you can enable it :) |
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| 17:59.33 | phanter | hmm I got my hello world compiled in main.o when I chmod 777 main.o and try to run it (./main.o) than it tells me: "cannot execute binary file" |
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| 18:00.22 | seldon | You have to link the modules to get an executable binary |
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| 18:00.47 | pjz | where are default ulimits set? |
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| 18:02.53 | mikeX | erm, kernel sources are the only source packages distributed with the binary distribution, right? |
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| 18:03.12 | furrywolf | mikex: alsa, toop |
| 18:03.14 | furrywolf | too |
| 18:03.28 | mikeX | oh ok |
| 18:03.46 | k-dog | Shorewall question: I'm tryin to allow inbound/outbound ICMP requests, but they're being blocked. Suggestions? |
| 18:03.57 | shining | phanter, gcc hello.c && ./a.out |
| 18:04.29 | k-dog | ACCEPT net:192.168.0.0/24 \ |
| 18:04.31 | k-dog | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.44 | k-dog | ...blocks pings from 196.168.0.0/24 |
| 18:04.55 | FieldySnuts | @lart k-dog |
| 18:05.20 | petemc | k-dog: one suggestion would be to not block icmp |
| 18:05.54 | k-dog | petemc: another would be to understand shorewall to the point of doin what you want to do. |
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| 18:06.18 | petemc | k-dog: an extension to that would be thoroughly reading the docs |
| 18:06.47 | aardvark | !dachs k-dog |
| 18:06.48 | dpkg | k-dog: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 18:06.56 | petemc | k-dog: i should also suggest to myself to read your question :) |
| 18:07.25 | petemc | !lart me |
| 18:07.37 | k-dog | petemc: Which docs? I've been looking for a good guide, am coming up short. |
| 18:08.09 | k-dog | petemc: If you know whereof you speak, great. If not, this isn't particularly illuminating. |
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| 18:08.51 | Bangers | hi, when i ssh into one of my servers, I always use my local non root account to jump on |
| 18:08.58 | Bangers | then su into the others accounts I use |
| 18:09.06 | Bangers | how can I force it to always only use my ~/.profile |
| 18:09.13 | Bangers | and not parse anyone elses |
| 18:09.27 | PerfDave | Bangers: Don't have a .profile for the other accounts? |
| 18:09.28 | FieldySnuts | use su instead of su - |
| 18:09.34 | petemc | k-dog: ive not used shorewall, i misunderstood your question in so far as i thought you wanted to block icmp, i use iptables -A FORWARD -p icmp -s 10.0.0.0/16 -j ACCEPT top allow my users |
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| 18:09.55 | Matsuo | How do I use wlan-ng? |
| 18:09.56 | FieldySnuts | yeesh a router 3 up from us is acting up, might go bye bye soon here |
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| 18:10.25 | petemc | k-dog: i assume you've been to /usr/share/doc/shorewall , further to that and google, im no help |
| 18:10.26 | k-dog | petemc: shorewall is a wrapper on iptables. Makes a number of things simpler. I just found shorewall-doc BTW, installing. |
| 18:10.44 | k-dog | petemc: See above. /u/s/d/sh is pretty meaningless w/o the docs package. |
| 18:11.44 | seldon | What does it make simpler? Until now I wrote my firewalls with iptables, but lately the number of vpn roadwarriors increased dramatically, leaving me with a whole bunch of tun-interfaces to handle...can shorewall make things easier for me? |
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| 18:12.13 | FieldySnuts | i feel for you that's a bitch |
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| 18:12.55 | Bangers | [04:09] (FieldySnuts): use su instead of su - <- I am only using "su" |
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| 18:13.47 | FieldySnuts | no idea then |
| 18:14.11 | aardvark | !any ideas |
| 18:14.12 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of string, a little cod liver oil, and 42 three-legged weasels. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few minutes! |
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| 18:14.30 | k-dog | seldon: It handles a bunch of basic infrastructure (things you should block by default, eg: nonroutables, by default. The rule syntax is simpler than iptables. |
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| 18:15.06 | |bondgirl | hi all |
| 18:15.19 | seldon | Can it do stuff like "add this rule to this and this and that chain over there"? |
| 18:15.29 | k-dog | seldon: 35 lines of rules net me 298 lines of 'iptables -L' output. |
| 18:15.50 | aardvark | http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/04/20/pig.olympics.ap/ |
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| 18:15.53 | aardvark | Piggy? |
| 18:16.03 | seldon | That's not necessarily a good thing. Ever seen what Code qtdesigner produces? |
| 18:16.06 | promethues | oh yeah |
| 18:16.16 | aardvark | midget swine? |
| 18:16.17 | k-dog | seldon: ...29 lines of rules not counting blank lines. |
| 18:16.21 | k-dog | seldon: Truth. Seems sane. |
| 18:16.31 | petemc | mail:~# iptables -L|wc -l |
| 18:16.32 | petemc | 866 |
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| 18:17.20 | usuario | I'm having a BIOS error in my dmesg "[drm:i810_unlock] *ERROR* Process 1294 using kernel context 0" and I can't get direct rendering for that device. What can I do> |
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| 18:17.23 | Atula | in gtk-gnutella, when it's 100% and finished.... for some reason, it wouldn't go away... clear... is that something I have to do myself? I tried to hit purge... but it doesn't go away.... hm, new at gtk-gnutella... |
| 18:17.37 | k-dog | seldon: My I Refer you to The Fine Manual? |
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| 18:17.54 | seldon | sure |
| 18:18.01 | seldon | thanks |
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| 18:18.13 | bug_code | somebody know a text-mode web browser |
| 18:18.15 | bug_code | ?? |
| 18:18.24 | bug_code | and mp3 player? |
| 18:18.25 | petemc | bug_code: lynx links w3m |
| 18:18.36 | seldon | lynx and links are text mode web browsers |
| 18:18.41 | Nwallins | hmm.. i apt-get removed mysql-client/server/common-4.1 and then installed mysql-server but it can't start because /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock DNE |
| 18:18.42 | seldon | links has javascript-support |
| 18:18.43 | drac | bug_code: elinks and cplay, for textmode. |
| 18:18.58 | seldon | mp3blaster is a curses mp3 player |
| 18:19.02 | Atula | nm |
| 18:19.24 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: badger? |
| 18:19.25 | ravenbird | methinks badger is something to do with bodger... and mashed potato!!! |
| 18:19.29 | Nwallins | i tried dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server |
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| 18:19.36 | Lee__ | Sarge will not boot with software RAID for / a /boot |
| 18:19.41 | Lee__ | s/a/and/ |
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| 18:19.48 | bug_code | thnaks |
| 18:20.04 | FieldySnuts | well yeah. how is it going to access boot, on software raid, before it can even read the kernel |
| 18:20.13 | kbs | running debian stable -- I upped the sysctl /proc/sys/fs/file-max -- but [within bash] I'm unable to ulimit -n <the new limit> -- gives a "not permitted" error. What am I missing? |
| 18:20.17 | Lee__ | FieldySnuts: it can read the kernel |
| 18:20.25 | FieldySnuts | user error then i guess |
| 18:20.26 | Lee__ | FieldySnuts: it gets to init |
| 18:20.29 | FieldySnuts | @Hump lee |
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| 18:20.36 | Lee__ | FieldySnuts: thanks for the newsflash |
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| 18:20.39 | FieldySnuts | np |
| 18:20.46 | Lee__ | asshole |
| 18:20.51 | FieldySnuts | eat it. |
| 18:21.01 | greycat | kbs: logout and back in. you can't raise a hard limit as a non-root user. |
| 18:21.03 | simonrvn | eat my shorts |
| 18:21.08 | simonrvn | *grin* |
| 18:21.10 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 18:21.25 | kbs | greycat: ah, ok. Thanks for that tip |
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| 18:22.54 | tell | how can i split avi-files? |
| 18:23.05 | streuner | tell: avisplit |
| 18:23.06 | tell | (preferrably gui) |
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| 18:23.44 | streuner | tell: that's not with GUI, but an easy tool to handle, just get transcode |
| 18:23.50 | Atula | how do you stretch move to fullscreen in mplayer? |
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| 18:24.03 | greycat | Atula: press 'f' |
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| 18:24.24 | Atula | that doesn't stretch the image |
| 18:24.27 | Atula | to make it big |
| 18:24.34 | petemc | Atula: start it with -zoom |
| 18:24.45 | Atula | thanks |
| 18:24.54 | petemc | you can put that in the conf file |
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| 18:25.12 | lonestar | i have a sound problem: i am using kernel 2.6.10, debian unstable. i've got an emu10k1 soundcard, using alsa. when i listen to music or watch a dvd, i have to turn up my volume to the mximum to get a reasonable volume (sometimes it is still a little too quiet). is there any way of increasing the volume further ? |
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| 18:25.19 | tell | streuner, thanks |
| 18:25.23 | BrianAnthony | how do I release and renew an IP address? |
| 18:25.37 | asg | BrianAnthony: ifdown <interface> ; ifup <interface> |
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| 18:25.44 | BrianAnthony | thanks |
| 18:25.46 | furrywolf | lonestar: I seem to recall seeing a lot of emu10k1 fixes in the .12-rc changelogs... might want to try an upgrade. |
| 18:25.57 | mikeX | lonestar, try running alsamixer |
| 18:26.00 | furrywolf | .12-rc3 came out yesterday |
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| 18:26.13 | furrywolf | .10 also has an ext2 corruption bug. :) |
| 18:26.13 | holo | lonestar, tried already turning the volume with alsamixer ;) |
| 18:26.23 | lonestar | i used alsamixer, and i had this problem for a long time now (same thing with earlier kernel versions) |
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| 18:26.39 | lonestar | and no ext2 here any more :) |
| 18:26.49 | flosch | hi |
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| 18:27.14 | holo | lonestar, PCM in alsamixer is very important |
| 18:27.25 | lonestar | PCM and master are at 100 percent |
| 18:27.30 | holo | ouch |
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| 18:29.04 | valdyn | lonestar: you might have to set the used h/w channel's volume too |
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| 18:29.30 | lonestar | how do i do this ? |
| 18:29.43 | kbs | greycat: hm, must still be having a PEBKAC moment :) I've changed security.conf, proc/sys/fs/file-max and logged out and in, but still have my "old" ulimit for open files |
| 18:29.51 | holo | valdyn, i'm sure he turned everything in alsamixer to 100% |
| 18:30.03 | valdyn | lonestar: i dont have you soundcard, my channals are VIA DXS - VIA DXS 4 |
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| 18:30.19 | kbs | greycat: oops, by "security.conf" I meant "security/limits.conf" |
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| 18:31.45 | lonestar | turning the other volume meters up doesnt make it louder, but the sound is weird then (there are 3d controls and such things) :) |
| 18:32.03 | valdyn | holo: also, line out isnt supposed to "drive" speakers, it ought to connect to an amplifier |
| 18:32.08 | BrianAnthony | Where can I find an xChat xmms plugin? |
| 18:32.16 | BrianAnthony | and also, does gaim have one? |
| 18:32.49 | lonestar | it may be a problem with line out simply being too quiet. (i got it connected there) |
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| 18:33.01 | streuner | BrianAnthony: if you get nothing via apt-cache search, go to www.xchat.org -> Scripts Plugins |
| 18:33.06 | greycat | kbs: I don't have a wikifaq entry for limits yet. I've been meaning to work on one for a while now, but never got to it. |
| 18:33.08 | lonestar | just wanted to check if there is some known way of improving this anyways... |
| 18:33.35 | valdyn | some soundcards have a small amplifier built in, some do not |
| 18:33.40 | kbs | greycat: ok. Thanks for working on it :) I'll continue to poke around here |
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| 18:33.49 | streuner | BrianAnthony: but make us a favorite and don't use it here ;-) |
| 18:34.14 | sdogi | how do i disable module loading? like i don't want drm and agpgart to be loaded |
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| 18:35.01 | directhex | !blacklist |
| 18:35.01 | dpkg | Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present) |
| 18:35.05 | resiak | I appear to have a 20GB partition on my disk that I'm not actually using, and I have absolutely no idea what the filesystem on it is. mount doesn't seem to like accepting -t auto. Is there a saner (and safer) way to figure it out than just trying mount -t $_ for @likey_fs_types ? |
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| 18:35.24 | directhex | file /dev/foobar ? |
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| 18:35.57 | resiak | directhex: It's not helpful: /dev/hda2: block special (3/2) |
| 18:36.24 | resiak | directhex: Providing -o ro, trying different types can't hurt, can it? |
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| 18:36.47 | cyklus | Is there any wireless card management package in Debian? ...ie somehting that will auto detect your location and connect you without having to manually use iwlist and iwconfig? |
| 18:36.49 | sdogi | hmm.. isn't hotplug related to usb stuff?.. well i'll check it out, thanks |
| 18:37.04 | directhex | cyklus, linspire 5 has something like that... |
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| 18:37.31 | directhex | sdogi, if it wasn';t the answer to your question, i wouldn't have said it |
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| 18:38.07 | cyklus | directhex: is it something I can install on debian? |
| 18:38.14 | simonrvn | there's a way to use file to figure out the fs from a /dev |
| 18:38.29 | resiak | simonrvn: I'll read man file |
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| 18:38.59 | resiak | simonrvn: Got it. Thank you. |
| 18:39.19 | simonrvn | what is it? :) |
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| 18:39.42 | Theoden | Anyone here use Comcast for internet access? |
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| 18:40.21 | resiak | simonrvn: Hahah: /dev/hda2: data |
| 18:40.32 | resiak | simonrvn: --special-files |
| 18:40.38 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 18:40.47 | Lee__ | it looks like I've found some hardware that won't boot with the sarge netinst image |
| 18:40.48 | resiak | Hmm, I wonder if this partition is blank. |
| 18:40.58 | asg | Theoden: Comcast has been having issues with DNS last I heard |
| 18:40.59 | Lee__ | the dell poweredge sc1425 |
| 18:41.02 | simonrvn | file -s /dev/sdd4 |
| 18:41.02 | simonrvn | /dev/sdd4: writable, no read permission |
| 18:41.07 | simonrvn | all i get |
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| 18:41.19 | Theoden | asg: Do you use it? |
| 18:41.35 | resiak | simonrvn: /dev/hda1: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data (needs journal recovery) |
| 18:41.36 | resiak | simonrvn: Eep! |
| 18:41.52 | asg | Theoden: no |
| 18:42.02 | Theoden | kj |
| 18:42.04 | Theoden | k |
| 18:42.09 | simonrvn | i got 'data' when i did it as root |
| 18:42.31 | furrywolf | you probably have different versions of the file database installed... |
| 18:42.37 | simonrvn | aaah, ok |
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| 18:42.49 | resiak | simonrvn: I'm doing this as root. |
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| 18:43.00 | simonrvn | file -s /dev/sdd10 |
| 18:43.00 | simonrvn | /dev/sdd10: SGI XFS filesystem data (blksz 4096, inosz 256, v2 dirs) |
| 18:43.08 | simonrvn | :) |
| 18:43.13 | resiak | simonrvn: /dev/hda5: SGI XFS filesystem data (blksz 4096, inosz 256, v2 dirs) |
| 18:43.14 | resiak | ;) |
| 18:43.20 | kbs | resiak: any chance you have /dev/hda1 mounted? :) |
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| 18:43.33 | resiak | kbs: That's a very good point that I hadn't previously considered :) |
| 18:43.41 | gnufan | ntp-server - dpkg -L suggests it has an /etc/ntp.conf but reinstalling it doesn't get it installed. What am I missing? |
| 18:44.08 | dupondje | hi guys! i just putted linux on a new pc, and i try to 'make menuconfig' for new kernel, and get full of errors like: scripts/basic/fixdep.c:105:23: sys/types.h: No such file or directory |
| 18:44.08 | dupondje | etc |
| 18:44.11 | resiak | gnufan: Purge then reinstall the package. |
| 18:44.13 | greycat | !confmiss |
| 18:44.13 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 18:44.17 | resiak | !faq dupondje |
| 18:44.17 | dpkg | dupondje: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 18:44.26 | dupondje | k boss :) |
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| 18:44.58 | gnufan | greycat, Ta |
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| 18:46.06 | dupondje | can't find solution :s |
| 18:47.04 | seldon | dupondje: Install libc6-dev and libncurses5-dev |
| 18:47.12 | chealer | !set up x |
| 18:47.12 | dpkg | from memory, set up x is To set up X in woody, sarge or sid, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86" (or x-window-system-core instead of xserver-xfree86 if you don't have it yet) Sometimes "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" works. dpkg-reconfigure will keep your old values as defaults each time you run it. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
| 18:47.12 | dupondje | k |
| 18:47.17 | chealer | [repeat] why wouldn't I see the framebuffer option referred by this factoid on drxx? using sarge, I'd like to verify what's the answer to this question currently. |
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| 18:51.18 | gnufan | greycat, BTW the "apt-get" line didn't seem to work I had to use dpkg directly... something changed as the advice is all over Google?! |
| 18:52.03 | runedude1 | Is there anyway to reinstall your sound configuration? |
| 18:52.08 | runedude1 | or fix sound in general? |
| 18:52.36 | greycat | gnufan: dunno, I've never done it with apt-get. |
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| 18:53.47 | BadMan | hey all, what can i use on debian(sarge) to combine smaller mpg into l1 large mpg? |
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| 18:53.57 | valdyn | chealer: framebuffer is probably the worst performing option for i386 ( except plain vga maybe ) |
| 18:54.22 | chealer | valdyn: I just want to make sure it's as disabled as it can be |
| 18:54.30 | asg | BadMan: generally, cat 1.mpg 2.mpg ... n+1.mpg >> whole.mpg works |
| 18:54.31 | chealer | because I used NVIDIA's driver |
| 18:54.36 | chealer | s/used/use |
| 18:54.51 | valdyn | chealer: ops, you dont even see that option? weird |
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| 18:55.19 | BadMan | asg: ok thanks |
| 18:55.35 | chealer | valdyn: unless what it says is really not clear...seriously, if you can tell me at which point you see it, that might help me |
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| 18:55.41 | gnufan | asg, really? I'd have thought you'd need to decode them into constituent parts and reassemble |
| 18:55.47 | chealer | (in the long succession of debconf questions :) ) |
| 18:55.51 | valdyn | chealer: its removed maybe in recent X packages |
| 18:55.53 | gnat_x | so i have been charged with installing sarge on a Dell PowerEdge 600. i know that with woody there were RAID driver issues, someone fixed that with a specialized boot cd. anyone know if those same issues exist with the sarge netinst, or if there is a simialr cd available? |
| 18:56.09 | valdyn | chealer: i dont see it either ( amd64 / sid ) |
| 18:56.11 | asg | gnufan: for quite a few mpg snippets I've fun across, that has worked. |
| 18:56.13 | Nwallins | what's a good dns server? looking for lightweight, easy. this is just for local LAN use (i just want to map hostnames to LAN IP's for win/lin/mac alike) |
| 18:56.33 | PerfDave | Nwallins: dnsmasq |
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| 18:56.43 | Nwallins | PerfDave: thx |
| 18:56.45 | chealer | valdyn: ok, thanks a lot. |
| 18:56.49 | gnufan | gnat_x, I'll find out later this week - but the Debian on Dell project is still going strong so if it doesn't work download the 5MB netinst image |
| 18:56.53 | asg | gnufan: no, the sarge installer shouldn't have a problem. It may have a problem autoprobing the megaraid driver though but you can do that manually when you get to the first screen. |
| 18:56.58 | chealer | if somebody sees the framebuffer option on sarge, I'd appreciate to be told |
| 18:57.15 | valdyn | !info xserver-xfree86 sarge |
| 18:57.18 | valdyn | !info xserver-xfree86 sid |
| 18:57.22 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-12.0.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 5584 kB, Installed size: 15288 kB |
| 18:57.26 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-12.0.1 (sid), Packaged size: 5584 kB, Installed size: 15288 kB |
| 18:57.38 | gnat_x | gnufan: i haven't seen an image with a 2.6 kernel. |
| 18:57.44 | kevin06 | I am stuck in 800x600 resolution, I know I am able to run 1280x1024. I have reconfigured my x-server thing and no dice. |
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| 18:58.07 | [sr] | hi ppl |
| 18:58.18 | valdyn | kevin06: the monitor specs you are giving need to support that resolution too |
| 18:58.22 | gnufan | gnat_x, I haven't tried recently :( The guy who did the Debian on DELL said 2.6 works fine, but he hadn't released it at the time |
| 18:58.52 | BadMan | asg: what does the n+1.mpg refer to? |
| 18:59.01 | mikeX | kevin06, how did you reconfigure? does your /etc/X11/XFree86-4 contain anything more than 800x600? |
| 18:59.02 | PerfDave | kevin06: /msg dpkg troubleshooting x |
| 18:59.07 | asg | BadMan: the last snippet you want to concatenate together |
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| 18:59.37 | BadMan | ok |
| 18:59.46 | valdyn | kevin06: dont message me, ask in channel |
| 18:59.52 | gnufan | gnat_x, he always recommended just using the netinst kernel as an install kernel anyway - for what it is worth. |
| 19:00.05 | gnat_x | gnufan: heh, he thanks me for testing it on 600sc, hadn't seen that before. |
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| 19:00.37 | humbolt | is 2.6.8 still the sarge kernel? |
| 19:00.38 | gnufan | gnat_x, my home desktop is an ST400 ;) |
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| 19:00.54 | chealer | humbolt: it will always be |
| 19:01.02 | valdyn | humbolt: no, but the sarge kernel is based on 2.6.8 |
| 19:01.09 | humbolt | ok |
| 19:01.25 | chealer | valdyn: yeah...it will always be the 2.6 sarge kernel :) |
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| 19:01.47 | humbolt | the sarge kernel is a heavyly patched 2.6.8, right. |
| 19:01.48 | Lee__ | this dell bug is terrible: http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2004-November/041042.html |
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| 19:02.03 | PerfDave | There are lots of kernels available in Sarge. |
| 19:02.06 | Lee__ | the whole system is practically useless |
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| 19:02.13 | gnat_x | gnufan: yah, but is there a sarge image for the Dells, or could i fudge it using the existing debian on dell cd image and popping in the sarge cd when it asks for a debian cd? |
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| 19:02.30 | drac | is -2- finally fixed against http://www.frsirt.com/exploits/20050322.k-rad.c.php since -1- it was click'n'go instant root for everybody. |
| 19:02.33 | drac | ? |
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| 19:03.44 | gnufan | gnat_x, it is too long ago, I got a working minimal system in with the Debian on Dell CD, and then just "apt" everything I needed from other sources (CD, UK mirror etc). |
| 19:03.59 | gnufan | gnat_x, my guess is the DI rc3 will just work, but I haven't tried |
| 19:04.49 | chealer | drac: unlikely, if you look at the changelog |
| 19:05.08 | drac | damn.. so sarge kernels are still unusable for multiuser system :( |
| 19:05.15 | valdyn | drac: is there a working exploit ( the one there does not compile ) |
| 19:05.15 | chealer | linus torvalds must not like georgi guninski :) |
| 19:05.37 | drac | valdyn: it works, just change the line it's complaining about. it has extra \n on it. |
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| 19:05.52 | axelx | hello |
| 19:05.55 | takatumi | !greetings |
| 19:05.56 | dpkg | hello, takatumi |
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| 19:06.08 | axelx | how do i chat with another users in terminal? |
| 19:06.10 | drac | valdyn: and -5 to 5 offsets. ./krad -3 worked for -1-k7 |
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| 19:06.15 | asg | axelx: write, talk |
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| 19:06.37 | chx_ | welcome. how can I force apt not to check a package dependency for ever? "bmp-wma: Depends: beep-media-player (>= 0.9.7+cvs20041121.12) but 0.9.7-1ubuntu1 is to be installed" -- bmp-wma and beep-media-player works as it should, apt is wrong in this case. |
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| 19:06.56 | chealer | drac: http://merkel.debian.org/~joeyh/testing-security.html talks about a 2.6.8-16 but I never found it |
| 19:07.02 | takatumi | chx_: #ubuntu |
| 19:07.07 | asg | chealer: don't use ubuntu packages on your debian system |
| 19:07.10 | asg | bah |
| 19:07.11 | evo_ | which package should supply glut.h ? |
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| 19:07.18 | asg | s/chealer/chx_/ |
| 19:07.20 | chealer | drac: you can't say you're not warned with that page though :) |
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| 19:07.25 | asg | evo_: /msg dpkg search |
| 19:07.27 | RalfG | hi there, help please .... |
| 19:07.29 | valdyn | drac: ah, it doesnt compile on amd64, works fine in my chroot ) |
| 19:07.33 | chealer | drac: except the particular problem you mention isn't mentionned there |
| 19:07.46 | evo_ | asg: thanx |
| 19:07.48 | chx_ | this is an apt question... I just want to get apt to ignore a version dependency. |
| 19:07.52 | bahutnoenie | Hello. I'm using sid updated daily. Don't know if this is relevant, but, a normal user can't write to /tmp anymore. |
| 19:07.57 | RalfG | I typed quite a load of text in oowriter, and now a "save text?" dialogue hangs the program |
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| 19:08.06 | RalfG | can I kill this dialogue without killing oo? |
| 19:08.09 | simonrvn | bahutnoenie: ls -ld /tmp says what? |
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| 19:08.25 | bahutnoenie | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2005-04-21 21:06 /tmp |
| 19:08.31 | bahutnoenie | drwxrwsr-x 11 root staff 4096 2005-03-09 14:52 /home |
| 19:08.32 | chealer | isn't there supposed to be a big list of packages at http://incoming.debian.org/ ? |
| 19:08.36 | bahutnoenie | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2005-04-09 13:47 /boot |
| 19:08.41 | asg | bahutnoenie: chmod 1777 /tmp |
| 19:08.41 | toresbe | abrotman! Hey! :) |
| 19:08.41 | simonrvn | whoah |
| 19:08.44 | abrotman | no |
| 19:08.46 | abrotman | !moo |
| 19:08.47 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
| 19:08.57 | simonrvn | bahutnoenie: what asg said |
| 19:09.01 | bahutnoenie | ok |
| 19:09.07 | toresbe | RalfG! Hey! :) |
| 19:09.12 | RalfG | hi toresbe |
| 19:09.21 | RalfG | do you know any advice? |
| 19:09.24 | toresbe | RalfG: OOo has file recovery if the process dies |
| 19:09.33 | RalfG | usually yes |
| 19:09.37 | chealer | abrotman: why? I have seen the packages incoming somewhere before |
| 19:09.44 | RalfG | I just don't want to rely on that |
| 19:09.57 | toresbe | RalfG: are you sure there aren't any messageboxen in the background, freezing the proggie? |
| 19:09.58 | RalfG | what about your hard disk, toresbe ? |
| 19:10.00 | abrotman | chealer: cows? |
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| 19:10.07 | toresbe | RalfG: strangely it started working |
| 19:10.09 | RalfG | yes |
| 19:10.16 | RalfG | good ;) |
| 19:10.17 | toresbe | RalfG: I'm backing up *quickly* now :] |
| 19:10.20 | RalfG | maybe a temperature issue |
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| 19:10.28 | abrotman | !confuse chealer |
| 19:10.29 | dpkg | Yes, what are their gouda tomorrow, chealer? trousers of the dictatorship of belarus with extra cream |
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| 19:10.39 | chealer | abrotman: please, don't make it worse |
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| 19:11.06 | chealer | can I opt-out from that factoid? |
| 19:11.10 | RalfG | toresbe, I hoped there was a xkill option to address a specific windows |
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| 19:11.22 | RalfG | as there is to read out windows' gemoetrie |
| 19:11.26 | RalfG | I forgot about that |
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| 19:11.59 | toresbe | RalfG: don't think so :\ |
| 19:12.43 | polm | How can I get the 'stat' command to follow symlinks by default ? I am trying to 'apt-get install php4-cli' and I am returned an error that a file could not be 'stat' because it doesn't exist. The problem is that the file is in the "/usr" directory not mounted at root /, but mounted at /export . There is a symlink pointing /usr to /export/usr. What can I do to solve this problem ? |
| 19:13.17 | RalfG | xkill - frame ? |
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| 19:14.06 | Atula | hm... backstreetboys are coming out with new cd.... new song... perhaps they are making their comeback... ooo |
| 19:14.36 | Atula | ................................................... |
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| 19:15.09 | simonrvn | um, who cares? |
| 19:15.10 | RalfG | ooo seems to have stopped communicating with X - I cannot even xwininfo nor display any window (desktop freezes if I top one of OOOs windows) |
| 19:15.14 | lef | how can I print to a postscript network printer from my debian workstation? |
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| 19:15.32 | valdyn | !tell lef about cups setup |
| 19:15.33 | asg | lef: install cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client |
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| 19:17.11 | axelx | Windows is cheaper thel Linux |
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| 19:17.16 | polm | q |
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| 19:17.30 | Atula | windows is cheaper than linux? really? |
| 19:17.32 | axelx | windows costs 0.3$ and linux 0.9$ |
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| 19:18.22 | lef | thank you valdyn & asg :-) |
| 19:18.22 | mikeX | yeah? how come? |
| 19:18.27 | asg | axelx: quality is priceless |
| 19:18.28 | [sr] | that's a joke?:) |
| 19:18.41 | leo | Do anybody heard anything about Adagio in Debian? |
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| 19:19.00 | Siropel | well ...a copy of linux is just 1 cd, while a linux is more than one cd ...so windows is cheaper :D ... |
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| 19:19.06 | axelx | asg may be but the speed is too |
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| 19:19.21 | axelx | Siropel u're right |
| 19:19.22 | Siropel | if you pay 30 cents for a cd ...whell ...windows is cheaper :D |
| 19:19.29 | asg | axelx: ever tried opening a 3 gig .csv in Excel? |
| 19:20.09 | Siropel | everybody agrees with me ?:D |
| 19:20.31 | axelx | SiropeÄ sure |
| 19:20.37 | axelx | asg nope. |
| 19:20.40 | valdyn | Siropel: a copy of "linux" fits on a floppy |
| 19:20.54 | asg | axelx: not very speedy on Windows (if possible at all) |
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| 19:21.06 | axelx | valdyn floppy costs 40 cents ;) |
| 19:21.27 | Siropel | valdyn that too ...but if you want kde apps and etc ... fits on 5 floppys :D |
| 19:21.58 | axelx | asg but openofice is not confortable |
| 19:22.26 | Siropel | open office is not refundable either :D |
| 19:22.27 | axelx | asg op.off. write is a real suck |
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| 19:24.04 | axelx | i installed RedHat few days ago - a real suck.. 3CDs, no java, no apache, xxmms hangs |
| 19:24.15 | BleSS | is it possible add anything between lines start and end? the same as sed -n '/start/,/end/{/pattern/p}' file |
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| 19:24.30 | chealer | axelx: please find people interested in what you have to say |
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| 19:24.58 | axelx | chealer want me to quit? |
| 19:25.12 | chealer | that's not necessary |
| 19:25.14 | leo | Do anybody heard anything about Adagio in Debian? |
| 19:25.17 | chx_ | I have unpacked the dpkg and changed control. Thanks for the non existent help. |
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| 19:25.36 | streuner | axelx: so you have no problems with debian? :-) |
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| 19:25.59 | axelx | streuner well i have... |
| 19:26.11 | shining | axelx, xmms hangs because it hasnt mp3 support ? |
| 19:26.30 | shining | axelx, and no apache is hardly believable |
| 19:26.53 | axelx | shining i don't know RedHat is OT here, i beleive... |
| 19:27.11 | chealer | heh |
| 19:27.51 | axelx | streuner: i need to install upgrade a webserver with stable packages to unstable through SSH - a real suckk.. |
| 19:28.03 | greycat | why bitch in #debian about red hat sucking? |
| 19:28.10 | greycat | we know red hat sucks. |
| 19:28.17 | streuner | hehe |
| 19:28.30 | axelx | greycat ok |
| 19:28.49 | shining | debian sucks |
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| 19:29.15 | sonimt | um. |
| 19:29.15 | asg | shining: then go and complain to someone who cares about your opinion. We don't. |
| 19:29.26 | sonimt | silly trolls. |
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| 19:29.38 | shining | damn this is off topic too then |
| 19:29.41 | adjacent | axelx: stop wasting my bandwidth. no one asked your opinion. sounds to me like you are too stupid to admin anything, but, then again, most windows admins are. |
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| 19:30.41 | kevin06 | Yet another example of why I love Debian... The Debian community rocks! |
| 19:30.49 | kevin06 | Thanks for the help guys! |
| 19:31.03 | axelx | adjacent i'm not stupid, but this is a problem for me now. but if the Server hangs or what somebody kicks my ass |
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| 19:32.33 | adjacent | axelx: its going to continue to be a problem for you until you learn your role. go RTFM. (/ignore is now on) |
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| 19:32.54 | Skrot | Hi.. I accidentialy deleted /dev/dsp, how do I recreate it with mknode? |
| 19:33.04 | simonrvn | mknod --help |
| 19:33.10 | valdyn | Skrot: are you using udev? |
| 19:33.17 | streuner | Skrot: udev or devfs installed? |
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| 19:33.36 | Skrot | yes, they are |
| 19:33.44 | gnufan | adjacent, thats hard on Windows admins - my boss rebooted the Windows box at work today, and we had to spend an hour recovering it's network policy from backup even though the file hasn't been touched in 3 years.... anyone who can keep windows going deserves a medal for patience. |
| 19:34.06 | Skrot | Ive got udev, valdyn |
| 19:34.17 | valdyn | Skrot: /etc/init.d/udev restart should recreate everything |
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| 19:34.29 | greycat | Skrot: I've had lots of diseases too. but not that one yet, thank god. |
| 19:34.52 | streuner | Skrot: apt-get remove udev |
| 19:34.52 | Skrot | greycat: hehe |
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| 19:36.32 | tarzeau | yay gcc 4.0 is out! |
| 19:36.48 | streuner | oh god |
| 19:36.49 | axelx | what is RTFM? |
| 19:36.55 | streuner | !rtfm |
| 19:36.55 | dpkg | rtfm is probably Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] |
| 19:36.56 | furrywolf | tarz: does it do anything useful that the last version didn't do? |
| 19:36.59 | chealer | hi every1, is gcc 4.0 in sarge |
| 19:37.02 | chealer | ? |
| 19:37.06 | greycat | !smite chealer |
| 19:37.19 | chealer | hey, I'm a n00b :) |
| 19:37.31 | resiak | !saladfingerssmite aardvark |
| 19:37.32 | resiak | :( |
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| 19:37.43 | furrywolf | are you a newbie to english too? every1 isn't a word. |
| 19:37.53 | valdyn | chealer: gcc4 is even released yet? |
| 19:38.06 | chealer | valdyn: according to tarzeau |
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| 19:38.14 | nomed^ | hi ... |
| 19:38.18 | gnufan | streuner, if I was in a good mood I'd tell him where apache was on the Redhat CDs, but that would be offtopic ;) |
| 19:38.37 | valdyn | chealer: either way im sure its not in sarge, its not even properly in sid ( only as gcc-snapshot ) |
| 19:38.53 | greycat | it *won't* be in sarge. period. |
| 19:38.53 | tarzeau | furrywolf: it'll soon have Objective-C++ |
| 19:38.57 | tarzeau | furrywolf: i heard with 4.0.1 |
| 19:39.05 | valdyn | chealer: beside that its for all i know pointless to use for non gcc developers / testers |
| 19:39.10 | chealer | valdyn: hehe, it was just a joke :) |
| 19:39.16 | nomed^ | is there an apt options or config that makes possible to get a sparc deb? |
| 19:39.24 | lef | in the sources.list next to each URL there are names like 'main' etc. What are these and which ones do I need to specify? |
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| 19:39.29 | tarzeau | furrywolf: some apps are written by some strange people using Objective-C++ |
| 19:39.44 | greycat | lef: man sources.list |
| 19:40.07 | lef | tarzeau, I think there is no objective-c++, just 'objective c' |
| 19:40.16 | Lee__ | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=277298 Debian sarge makes bugs for Dells. It's written. installing 2.6.8-2-smp fixes it with hyperthreading support! |
| 19:40.16 | axelx | this is a great place.. |
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| 19:40.22 | lef | thank you greycat |
| 19:40.27 | resiak | axelx: What exactly is your point? |
| 19:40.29 | tarzeau | lef: yes there has been objective-c++ way back since gcc 2.7.x on NeXTSTEP, like 15 years ago |
| 19:40.30 | chealer | there are already gcc-4.0 experimental packages anyway |
| 19:40.33 | gnufan | nomeata, have you read the sparc install instructions? |
| 19:40.40 | tarzeau | lef: for sure 10 years ago on OPENSTEP (i have such systems) |
| 19:40.52 | gnufan | nomeata, oops sorry.. damn automcomplete |
| 19:40.57 | lef | tarzeau, I see :-) wasn't aware of that |
| 19:41.00 | abrotman | tarzeau: i heard gnustep is broken in 124 ways |
| 19:41.08 | axelx | resiak excuse me? |
| 19:41.09 | simonrvn | no wonder you're a gnustep fanboi ;p |
| 19:41.15 | tarzeau | lef: it's not important or good though (same shit like c++ ;) |
| 19:41.16 | streuner | abrotman: hehe |
| 19:41.20 | tarzeau | simonrvn: who is? |
| 19:41.27 | resiak | axelx: You seem to think that we're being unpleasant. |
| 19:41.27 | simonrvn | who else? ;) |
| 19:41.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: if you give details, we'll fix them! |
| 19:41.39 | abrotman | simonrvn: he and the other three people that use it :) |
| 19:41.49 | abrotman | tarzeau: it has no mono bindings! |
| 19:41.59 | tarzeau | abrotman: hahaha, we are not masochists, are we? |
| 19:42.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: mono is worse than java |
| 19:42.08 | axelx | resiak i do not. i had received alot help here |
| 19:42.18 | simonrvn | i've honestly tried using gnustep and its apps. too annoying in their ui behaviour, and no way to really change it |
| 19:42.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: debatable .. in different areas |
| 19:42.19 | axelx | axelx i mean not now, but this days... |
| 19:42.21 | resiak | axelx: Oh, okay. I misunderstood. |
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| 19:42.24 | WolfCub | Is there a way to make it so KDE doesn't take exclusive control over the sound system, ie so I could play a game and play music at the same time? |
| 19:42.27 | valdyn | tarzeau: im curious, so do you have a url explaining why one should use obj c instead of c++ ? |
| 19:42.34 | nomed^ | lef: i need to make a kind of installation with debbootstrap on a i386 what that can run on sparc |
| 19:42.36 | valdyn | tarzeau: if that made sense at all.. |
| 19:42.56 | nomed^ | s/what/but |
| 19:42.57 | tarzeau | valdyn: it's the frameworks, read for example the allen-booz quote at http://livecd.gnustep.org |
| 19:43.18 | tarzeau | valdyn: let me link the resumees (1-3 pages each) of Application and FoundationKit ... |
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| 19:43.19 | valdyn | tarzeau: ok, i mean outside openstep.. |
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| 19:43.29 | glud-acl_ | hello everybody |
| 19:43.34 | tarzeau | valdyn: the languages only? |
| 19:43.38 | tarzeau | valdyn: dynamic binding |
| 19:43.39 | valdyn | tarzeau: yea |
| 19:43.48 | tarzeau | valdyn: let me give you a quote one second: |
| 19:43.52 | streuner | WolfCub: disable ARTS |
| 19:44.07 | WolfCub | Ok, will that still allow KDE to play system sounds? |
| 19:44.17 | streuner | WolfCub: nope |
| 19:44.25 | WolfCub | Damn why is KDE gay like that? |
| 19:44.28 | streuner | WolfCub: ARTS is the sound-daemon of KDE |
| 19:44.30 | simonrvn | you don't need a "sound daemon" to have functional sound |
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| 19:44.44 | simonrvn | @tell WolfCub -about gay |
| 19:44.46 | WolfCub | But it shouldn't control the sound device like that. |
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| 19:45.01 | streuner | WolfCub: if you have a sound-chip like emu10k1 it supports that out of the box |
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| 19:45.20 | resiak | WolfCub: You can make it relinquish control of the sound device when it's not using it. |
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| 19:45.21 | KinxofSepluv | What about emu10k2? |
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| 19:45.24 | streuner | WolfCub: dmix is another solution |
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| 19:45.34 | takatumi | works here with ali5451 |
| 19:45.35 | henk | Hi my old host enabled me to have /path/to/foo.bar wehere path is actualy path.php and /to/foo.bar gets sent to path.php as input. I'm guessing this is apache's doing. What is this feature called/how does one get apche to do it? I want to ask my new host for it (sorry nobody at apache seems awake thought this whould be the chanel with the smartest people) |
| 19:45.38 | slyboots | Hi, Pretty simple question, how to I change the refresh rate of KDE in Debian |
| 19:45.38 | WolfCub | And dmix will allow multiple sounds at once? |
| 19:45.46 | streuner | WolfCub: yep |
| 19:45.47 | glud-acl_ | I've troubles with my dear Debian, I use VisualBoyadvance aplication, but I've a lot of troubles, well I can't save state, I can't save on .sav format and this aplication tell me that there isn't a file called vba-order.ini, what I can do |
| 19:45.50 | streuner | !dmix |
| 19:45.50 | dpkg | i guess dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf |
| 19:45.50 | PerfDave | You don't need do disable aRts to allow KDE sounds and other sounds simultaneously. |
| 19:45.53 | resiak | !drxx slyboots |
| 19:45.54 | dpkg | slyboots: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 19:45.57 | WolfCub | As well as KDE system sounds? |
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| 19:46.06 | slyboots | Can I not change it via normal user while inside X? |
| 19:46.10 | WolfCub | PerfDave: how do you do it then? |
| 19:46.13 | streuner | WolfCub: no idea if that works with KDE |
| 19:46.21 | slyboots | Like.. I dunno a applit or something? |
| 19:46.24 | PerfDave | WolfCub: I'd tell you, but you're a furry :p |
| 19:46.26 | doublehp | how to activate ACPI on 2.4 kernel s? |
| 19:46.36 | WolfCub | Tell me anyways :) |
| 19:46.39 | nomed^ | i can use debootstrap --arch i386 sarge </path/to> .. chtoo <path> use apt-get install foo.xyz.sparc.deb .. exit .. and debootstrap --arch sparc sarge </path/to> .. |
| 19:46.48 | chealer | PerfDave: tell it to me then :) |
| 19:47.00 | tarzeau | valdyn: Although both Objective-C and C++ derive from C, C++ is a systems-level language, whereas Objective-C is an applications-level language. The distinction can be summarized by saying that C++ was designed with program efficiency in mind, while Objective-C is geared more toward programmer efficiency. The difference is substantial--C++ is driven by a philosophy of efficiency and compatibility with existing C which, while necessary for |
| 19:47.01 | nomed^ | s/chtoo/chroot |
| 19:47.08 | glud-acl_ | somebody know how to fix this bug? |
| 19:47.29 | WolfCub | Does DMIX allow arts and other sound stuff to run at once? |
| 19:47.31 | nomed^ | but how can i say to apt to get sparc and not i386? |
| 19:47.41 | axelx | can i watch anothers terminal? |
| 19:47.49 | tarzeau | valdyn: from "Developing Business Applications with OPENSTEP" -- Nik Gervae, Peter Clark 1997 |
| 19:47.49 | streuner | !tell WolfCub about dmix |
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| 19:48.10 | streuner | WolfCub: what soundchip do you have? |
| 19:48.19 | WolfCub | Nvidia sound storm nforce 2 |
| 19:48.33 | glud-acl_ | somebody know how to configure visualBoyAdvance |
| 19:48.34 | valdyn | tarzeau: thanks, thats about what i wanted to know |
| 19:48.47 | slyboots | Okay, I gess I have to erstart X to make the changes? |
| 19:48.51 | tarzeau | valdyn: want an overview about those two kits? |
| 19:49.08 | tarzeau | valdyn: that are responsible for Doom and the WorldWideWeb ? |
| 19:49.14 | WolfCub | Uhhhh I still don't know if dmix will allow KDE system sounds as well as gaming and music sounds... |
| 19:49.25 | WolfCub | No info on that site about that. |
| 19:49.25 | slyboots | Well.. Thanks :) |
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| 19:49.33 | valdyn | tarzeau: nah thx, i can google for details |
| 19:49.50 | tarzeau | valdyn: here anyways: www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/ApplicationKit.rtf www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/FoundationKit.rtf |
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| 19:49.52 | glud-acl_ | please answer my question |
| 19:49.59 | tarzeau | valdyn: (best viewed with TextEdit.app ;) |
| 19:50.10 | directhex | WolfCub, if you run artsd as an oss application using aoss... |
| 19:50.11 | resiak | glud-acl_: The people who made the game probably know. |
| 19:50.22 | directhex | WolfCub, i've run esound like that before |
| 19:50.27 | resiak | directhex: It works? |
| 19:50.28 | axelx | is there any way, a user can watch the console of another user? |
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| 19:50.33 | WolfCub | Ok... how exactly do I go about this? |
| 19:50.41 | stew | glud-acl_: have you read /usr/share/doc/visualboyadvance/? |
| 19:50.42 | tarzeau | axelx: sure |
| 19:50.42 | glud-acl_ | well i'm expecting an answer but... |
| 19:50.45 | distempr | If I have a machine with 4 GB of memory, do I need to set the himem param in the kernel to 4+ GBs? (4-64) |
| 19:50.46 | directhex | resiak, sure. until esd memory leaks & locks out the sound card |
| 19:50.50 | WolfCub | What config files need to be edited? |
| 19:50.53 | axelx | tarzeau what is it? |
| 19:50.53 | resiak | directhex: Oh. |
| 19:50.55 | streuner | !hurry |
| 19:50.55 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 19:50.58 | WolfCub | What packages do I need? |
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| 19:51.09 | tarzeau | axelx: the easiest is to stand behind the user and also look onto the same screen |
| 19:51.13 | distempr | Because when I run free, it reports 3.7 gb's of memory available. |
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| 19:51.16 | glud-acl_ | yes sure, and I also change visualboyadvance.cfg file but nope |
| 19:51.25 | axelx | tarzeau ;););););) |
| 19:51.26 | pi_ | I need to browse my network for windowsXP file shares.. |
| 19:51.30 | pi_ | what should I use? |
| 19:51.38 | pi_ | also.. what should I use to mount those file shares? |
| 19:51.38 | resiak | pi_: I use nautilus. You may use what you want. |
| 19:51.39 | tarzeau | axelx: another is to use GNU screen |
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| 19:51.41 | greycat | pi_: samba |
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| 19:51.47 | distempr | pi_: smbclient |
| 19:51.56 | directhex | pi_, smbclient and smbfs |
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| 19:52.03 | pi_ | thanks. |
| 19:52.34 | pureone | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=254515 |
| 19:52.40 | WolfCub | Is dmix included in the Debian package of alsa? |
| 19:52.42 | pureone | does anyone know a work around for this bug? |
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| 19:52.47 | axelx | tarzeau how does it work? |
| 19:52.52 | resiak | !tell axelx -about ttysnoop |
| 19:53.00 | kombi | what was the command again to dispay a message to all open shells? |
| 19:53.06 | resiak | kombi: wall ? |
| 19:53.11 | kombi | thanks! |
| 19:53.34 | glud-acl_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.49 | abrotman | have any of you setup samba to auth against a win32 pdc ? |
| 19:53.53 | glud-acl_ | VisualBoyadvance |
| 19:54.35 | resiak | !anyone use |
| 19:54.35 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 19:54.44 | doublehp | how to activate ACPI on 2.4 kernel s? |
| 19:55.11 | resiak | doublehp: modprobe acpi? |
| 19:55.29 | kombi | resiak: whats the syntax? wall "message" ? |
| 19:55.30 | axelx | what isttysnoop and why souldn;t i use it? |
| 19:55.35 | doublehp | resiak: says kernel does not support ... I rather thunk about a kernel arg |
| 19:55.38 | resiak | kombi: rtfm |
| 19:55.38 | valdyn | WolfCub: yes, sure |
| 19:55.40 | betterpurl | I have just installed debian, but eth0 is not in ifconfig |
| 19:55.42 | resiak | doublehp: Not a clue. |
| 19:55.49 | betterpurl | how do I setup networking? |
| 19:55.49 | resiak | betterpurl: Well then add it. |
| 19:55.50 | abrotman | resiak: that doesn't help :) |
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| 19:56.04 | resiak | abrotman: that wasn't actually aimed at you :) |
| 19:56.04 | kombi | did read that, tells me nothing.. |
| 19:56.13 | glud-acl_ | VisualBoyadvance???????????????????????????????? |
| 19:56.29 | chealer | !tell glud-acl_ about ep |
| 19:56.30 | resiak | kombi: Wall displays the contents of file or, by default, its standard input, on the terminals of all currently logged in users. |
| 19:56.44 | simonrvn | glud-acl_: what about it? i've never heard of it? and please stop with the '????????????' crap |
| 19:56.50 | resiak | glud-acl_: RTFM, email its maintainers if you can't figure it out. Someone would have spoken up if they knew anything about it. |
| 19:56.54 | WolfCub | Can someone give my details on how exactly they set up Arts and Dmix? |
| 19:57.14 | abrotman | #kde can |
| 19:57.15 | betterpurl | resiak to /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 19:57.18 | WolfCub | Ok. |
| 19:57.24 | WolfCub | Ill check #kde thanks. |
| 19:57.33 | valdyn | WolfCub: thats very easy, the harder part is setting up alsas dmix |
| 19:57.40 | resiak | betterpurl: man interfaces |
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| 19:57.53 | valdyn | WolfCub: arts can take an alsa device, so you just give it _whatever_ your dmix device is |
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| 19:58.15 | WolfCub | Ok I'm a noob to stuff like that, what commands do I run. |
| 19:58.21 | valdyn | WolfCub: none |
| 19:58.54 | valdyn | WolfCub: use the kde gui to configure artstd |
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| 19:59.03 | valdyn | WolfCub: kde control center or whatever its called in the menu |
| 19:59.21 | grendal_prime | test |
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| 19:59.26 | betterpurl | resiak: "ifup eth0: ... no such device" |
| 19:59.43 | resiak | betterpurl: Well then it looks like your network card's driver isn't loaded |
| 19:59.52 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:00.20 | betterpurl | resiak do I load it with modprobe? |
| 20:00.23 | valdyn | WolfCub: set it to alsa, pick your dmix device ( you probably havent setup a dmix device ? ) |
| 20:00.39 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.43 | resiak | betterpurl: What network card do you have? |
| 20:01.00 | betterpurl | resiak: intel pro/100 |
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| 20:01.04 | valdyn | WolfCub: /j #flood |
| 20:01.22 | chealer | !tell glud-acl_ about msg |
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| 20:01.36 | WolfCub | Ok... I'm in #flood. |
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| 20:02.21 | resiak | betterpurl: What version of Debian did you install? TBH I know nothing about that specific card. |
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| 20:03.14 | betterpurl | resiak 3.0r4, but I am going to do a network install & compile of latest unstable |
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| 20:03.23 | betterpurl | resiak once my network card is set up |
| 20:03.23 | resiak | betterpurl: You do not want to use unstable |
| 20:03.25 | resiak | !d-i betterpurl |
| 20:03.26 | PerfDave | betterpurl: Network install *and* compile? |
| 20:03.26 | dpkg | betterpurl, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 20:03.38 | PerfDave | betterpurl: /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 20:04.45 | Gumby | does anyone in here use ntop? trying to figure out how to get it to store data so that when its stopped and then restarted it continues using the previous sessions data instead of starting from scratch |
| 20:05.08 | betterpurl | then I'll install 3.0r5 |
| 20:05.11 | resiak | betterpurl: No! |
| 20:05.15 | resiak | !d-i betterpurl |
| 20:05.16 | dpkg | betterpurl, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 20:05.29 | Nexus_ | So here's a big problem. My linux server here at work had a drive in the raid array fail. I got a new drive and went to recover the array. It froze, and now the partition table is completely blank. Is there any way to recover it? |
| 20:05.47 | eeEE | anyone know of a good backport (to stable) of php4.3.3 or > ? |
| 20:05.59 | betterpurl | resiak ok. Now, what do I do about my network driver? |
| 20:06.27 | PerfDave | eeEE: /msg dpkg backports |
| 20:06.33 | resiak | betterpurl: I'd suggest just trying the Sarge netinst -- it could well be that Sarge supports your NIC |
| 20:06.39 | takatumi | betterpurl: it should just mostly work with sarge, 3.1 |
| 20:07.09 | glud-acl_ | gaim |
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| 20:07.19 | betterpurl | resiak right, but to do a net install I need boot media. In this case, all I have is 3.0r4 on CDs. |
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| 20:07.39 | raf256 | hi, I have strange problem - my DNS resolving server works poorly, |
| 20:07.51 | seldon | betterpurl: Don't you have a floppy or something to spare? |
| 20:08.00 | takatumi | betterpurl: no CD writer? |
| 20:08.07 | betterpurl | resiak: laptop with CD burner and no floppy drive, but no CDRs near me |
| 20:08.10 | raf256 | how can I increase time limit on DNS queries and cause linux to query other DNS from etc/resolv.conf if 1st is not respoinding? |
| 20:08.12 | kristiank | can anybody remeber me where is the kernel (sarge) in the filesystem ? |
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| 20:08.35 | raf256 | kristiank: isnt it in /boot? the binaries and libraries in /usr/lib? |
| 20:08.43 | geertian | howto get grub to start in menu mode instead of term mode??? |
| 20:08.50 | kristiank | thanks. |
| 20:09.06 | Nexus_ | So here's a big problem. My linux server here at work had a drive in the raid array fail. I got a new drive and went to recover the array. It froze, and now the partition table is completely blank. Is there any way to recover it? |
| 20:09.20 | Markrian | geertian, what do you mean |
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| 20:10.18 | geertian | i've installed sarge, no problems there exept it just installed grub to MBR but it doesn't show the menu it's supossed to do... |
| 20:10.32 | Markrian | geertian, what does it show |
| 20:10.33 | kristiank | donc tu veux dire "cat /boot/vmliuz-2.4.27..." ? |
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| 20:10.43 | geertian | grub > |
| 20:10.49 | raf256 | how can I make linux cache DNS adresses? |
| 20:10.52 | raf256 | waht to apt-get? |
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| 20:11.09 | kristiank | sorry confused channels. |
| 20:11.13 | dondelelcaro | raf256: run a caching dns server. |
| 20:11.35 | evo_ | well gonna ask again... because dpkg --search only shows info from installed packages... can anybody tell me what package Should supply glut.h ? |
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| 20:11.38 | Markrian | geertian, that's not right - grub's config probably contains erros |
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| 20:11.54 | raf256 | dondek: with is most easy to use? I want it to only listen to localhost |
| 20:11.59 | gpm | !pdo |
| 20:11.59 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it? |
| 20:12.04 | raf256 | a lightwaiegh and secore DNS cahcing server |
| 20:12.05 | ryan` | !wwsr |
| 20:12.06 | dpkg | Sarge will release WIR; SIYH. Current estimates are N+30 days, where N is when debian-security updates for sarge come online, in april 2005. Latest release update : http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/04/msg00003.html and ask me about <sarge pool>, <wir>, <siyh>, <sarge guess> and <sing sarge>. Sarge takes too long? ask me about <vancouver> |
| 20:12.11 | seldon | raf256: apt-cache search dns cache, then take your pick |
| 20:12.32 | roo9 | hi, what does it mean when my system boots with "L 01 01 01 01 01 01"... I just added a new drive to the system (as secondary master), the system does boot fine without this new drive. |
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| 20:13.11 | geertian | wel if i say grub>configfile /boot/grub/grub.conf it gives the menu like it should... |
| 20:13.18 | spoof | !siyh |
| 20:13.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, siyh is Sooner If You Help, or see "wir" and "rsn" |
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| 20:13.58 | geertian | eeeehm grub> configfile /grub/grub.conf that is... |
| 20:14.05 | raf256 | roo9: IMHO looks more like an hardware conflict, are You shure the new disc is secondary |
| 20:14.14 | raf256 | !wir |
| 20:14.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 20:14.21 | raf256 | !rsn |
| 20:14.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, rsn is Real Soon Now (or never) or see "wir" and "siyh" |
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| 20:14.51 | evo_ | damn good site, thanks (i'm new to debian, but sofar i quite like it :) |
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| 20:16.03 | nicki- | I have a question: what would be the debian-approved way to configure an iptables firewall at startup? In redhat there used to be a special file that a script would look for... |
| 20:17.05 | dondelelcaro | nicki-: there are a bunch of different ways. iptables itself includes a initscript. |
| 20:17.05 | dondelelcaro | nicki-: there's also ipmasq, and a few firewall specific packages. |
| 20:17.05 | seldon | nicki-: I put my firewall scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d usually |
| 20:17.08 | dondelelcaro | nicki-: see /usr/share/doc/iptables/examples/ |
| 20:17.25 | seldon | That way, the firewall starts when the ppp link is brought up |
| 20:17.32 | nicki- | oh thanks dondelelcaro |
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| 20:18.55 | geertian | Markrian: any ideas? |
| 20:18.56 | nicki- | umm.. here is 'dpkg -L iptables | grep etc': |
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| 20:19.02 | kombi | sshd_config has "AllowUsers", what does ftpd have? |
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| 20:19.20 | nicki- | yes, that was nothing |
| 20:19.23 | nicki- | :) |
| 20:19.54 | dondelelcaro | nicki-: the init script for iptables is an example. It's in /usr/share/doc/ |
| 20:20.06 | seldon | nicki-: Just put it in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d. You want the firewall up when ppp starts, right? |
| 20:20.07 | nicki- | oh I see |
| 20:20.23 | dondelelcaro | nicki-: it's deprecated for various reasons, none the least of which is the fact that it should be called when the interface actually comes up, by using the hooks in ifupdown |
| 20:20.29 | dondelelcaro | seldon: not everyone uses ppp. |
| 20:20.36 | nicki- | seldon, I don't understand how the pppoe startup works |
| 20:20.40 | seldon | It's the most probable use case, I think |
| 20:20.51 | dondelelcaro | surprisingly not, actually. |
| 20:21.30 | greycat | cable modem with DHCP is more common I think |
| 20:21.38 | seldon | In any other case, wire it to the interface in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:21.41 | greycat | at least among non-dialup people. |
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| 20:22.45 | geertian | I can't get grub to load in menu mode |
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| 20:23.01 | geertian | I've got a /boot partition |
| 20:23.06 | digitalfredy | geertian, yes |
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| 20:23.21 | seldon | geertian: Do you have a /boot/grub/menu.lst? |
| 20:23.28 | digitalfredy | geertian, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 20:23.47 | geertian | this exists... |
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| 20:24.21 | seldon | Paste it to http://rafb.net/paste, let me have a look at it |
| 20:25.24 | nicki- | seldon: I set up my dsl with pppoe-config or something and I have no clue how it did it |
| 20:25.46 | d03boy | why, hello sirs and ma'ams. |
| 20:25.52 | geertian | seldom:pasted it... |
| 20:26.02 | seldon | So give me the link to the paste |
| 20:26.09 | d03boy | I need to get my computer to enable vsync but it doesnt seem to work |
| 20:26.21 | geertian | aaah does it work like that... sorry... |
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| 20:26.39 | seldon | How else would it work? |
| 20:26.42 | nicki- | dondelelcaro, I disagree that it should be tied to the interface. the firewall is independent of the particular interface |
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| 20:26.45 | geertian | seldon:http://rafb.net/paste/results/hbram578.txt |
| 20:27.01 | kombi | where do you allow users to connect via ftp? |
| 20:27.24 | greycat | kombi: man ftpd |
| 20:27.31 | streuner | kombi: ftp is typically anon ftp |
| 20:27.33 | kombi | looking at it.. |
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| 20:29.04 | seldon | geertian: I'm going out on a limb here, because I'd have to look up how the splashimage thing works, but try to put a # before the splashimage line |
| 20:29.22 | seldon | Maybe grub doesn't find the splashimage and gets confused or something |
| 20:29.25 | doublehp | how to activate ACPI on 2.4 prebuild kernel s? |
| 20:29.28 | seldon | Mind you, it's a wild guess |
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| 20:29.58 | streuner | doublehp: via kerneloptions? |
| 20:30.08 | pjz | where's the right place to set the open filedescriptor limit? |
| 20:30.18 | plugster | hi, on my server i have gd installed, but only with read support, is it har to change this to write as well? |
| 20:30.21 | doublehp | streuner looks like I need a kernel argument ... of touch proc ? |
| 20:30.28 | doublehp | s/touch/change |
| 20:30.43 | streuner | doublehp: its a laptop? |
| 20:30.49 | geertian | seldon:doesn't seem to work either... |
| 20:30.58 | streuner | doublehp: modprobe it |
| 20:31.05 | doublehp | streuner y |
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| 20:31.16 | streuner | doublehp: and take a look into your kernels-source /docs |
| 20:31.19 | Loof | Heya, I want to switch over to 2.6.11* What's the most stable source to use the kernel-source-2.6.11, The official dist 2.6.11.7 or the official dist + debian patches? |
| 20:31.21 | d03boy | what order does the versions of deb go? woody, sid, sarge? |
| 20:31.24 | doublehp | streuner modprobe: Can't locate module acpi |
| 20:31.32 | geertian | seldon:It should work when you start grub on a terminal right? |
| 20:31.35 | Loof | I'm wondering if the debian source IS 2.6.11.7 and just doesn't specify it |
| 20:31.44 | Loof | or if there's some reason it's not available yet. |
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| 20:31.57 | streuner | doublehp: what does 'uname -a' say? |
| 20:32.31 | doublehp | streuner I am pretty sure I need a kernel argument ... |
| 20:32.39 | seldon | geertian: What do you mean by that? |
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| 20:32.58 | seldon | Did you run grub from the command line? |
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| 20:33.07 | resiak | Loof: I can speak from experience that large chunks of kernel-source-2.6.11 (the Debian package, that is) fails to build from source. |
| 20:33.18 | Loof | Bleh |
| 20:33.20 | geertian | seldon:yeaps... |
| 20:33.36 | seldon | geertian: No wonder then. grub is a boot loader. It starts at boot time. |
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| 20:33.51 | seldon | The command line client is only used to install it |
| 20:33.52 | resiak | Loof: Tomorrow, I'll be able to tell you if upstream is just as bad. |
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| 20:34.20 | geertian | seldon:I also tested it by rebooting but not this time yet..... I'll be back in a sec |
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| 20:36.28 | dupondje | eth0: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature. <- what does this mean ? :s |
| 20:36.44 | budluva | ok, im just about to install debian, im currently running fedora core 3, i want to keep some stuff in my /home dir, about 50g, what would be the best way of transfering my /home over? make a new partition say /stuff and install debian as usual? |
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| 20:37.22 | greycat | budluva: if /home is a separate partition, just leave it alone. |
| 20:37.23 | kombi | can you tell rm to remove all but a certain file? |
| 20:37.25 | doublehp | how to activate ACPI on 2.4 prebuild kernel s? => looks like --- acpi=on --- |
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| 20:37.30 | nicki- | dondelelcaro & seldon: thanks kindly for your help |
| 20:37.37 | budluva | k |
| 20:37.37 | greycat | kombi: shopt -s extglob; echo rm !(thefile) |
| 20:37.39 | pjz | where's the right place to set the open filedescriptor limit? I know how, but not sure where |
| 20:37.46 | kombi | greycat: thanks! |
| 20:37.49 | streuner | doublehp: what does 'uname -a' say? |
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| 20:38.01 | Yildirim | Hi, if i add deb adresses on my ubuntu does it works? |
| 20:38.06 | doublehp | streuner Linux pluton 2.4.27-2-k7 #1 Fri Mar 25 12:03:02 JST 2005 i686 mobile AMD Athlon(tm) 4 Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
| 20:38.35 | streuner | doublehp: strange, my 2.6.9 kernel has that as module |
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| 20:38.56 | doublehp | streuner 2.4 != 2.6 |
| 20:39.12 | streuner | doublehp: grep ACPI kernel-config |
| 20:39.26 | streuner | doublehp: sure |
| 20:39.27 | plugster | hi, on my server i have gd installed, but only with read support, is it har to change this to write as well? |
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| 20:39.49 | resiak | budluva: Of course, you have recent backups. |
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| 20:40.34 | doublehp | streuner I am not under Debian ATM ... but using Debian kernel on Gentoo .... (I know, thats bad, but ... long story ) |
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| 20:41.14 | doublehp | streuner => I mean, there is no `kernel-config` under my gentoo |
| 20:41.18 | amorphix | hi guys |
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| 20:42.04 | krotz | Anyone used eggdrop here ? |
| 20:42.20 | doublehp | krotz: yep ... was funny ... but long time age |
| 20:42.22 | doublehp | ago |
| 20:42.24 | shining | doublehp, lol you're crazy :) |
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| 20:42.35 | doublehp | shining: I know ... |
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| 20:42.44 | krotz | I tried it, but it seems there is a problem with the tcl or the ssl.. so it won't connect to any SSL authenticated server. |
| 20:42.52 | doublehp | shining: but I really have no choice |
| 20:42.58 | plugster | hi, on my server i have gd installed, but only with read support, is it har to change this to write as well? |
| 20:43.01 | shining | doublehp, what do you need? |
| 20:43.09 | krotz | Does it manually patch the ssl to it on apt-get? |
| 20:43.10 | doublehp | shining: nothing ATM ... |
| 20:43.12 | krotz | :P |
| 20:43.23 | doublehp | streuner lets reboot :) |
| 20:43.26 | dupondje | somebody could help me ? :( |
| 20:43.30 | shining | doublehp, why do you need a particular kernel? |
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| 20:43.35 | davFr | hi . Could a sarge user tell me the default rights on /usr/bin/dpkg, please? |
| 20:43.45 | appaji | dpkg: tell dupondje about ask |
| 20:43.49 | streuner | doublehp: those kernel-images of debian use ACPI by default |
| 20:43.51 | seldon | krotz: Maybe stunnel is what you need |
| 20:44.01 | davFr | dpkg can't be executed anymore from fakeroot to create package |
| 20:44.10 | seldon | the package is called stunnel4, I think |
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| 20:44.14 | shining | davFr, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root |
| 20:44.24 | krotz | seldon: stunnel ? |
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| 20:44.32 | krotz | seldon: what is that? |
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| 20:44.44 | krotz | I mean how do I set it up on a eggdrop (I remembered now what it is) |
| 20:45.02 | nipplesrulz | so |
| 20:45.06 | dupondje | eth0: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature. <- what does this mean ? :s |
| 20:45.09 | nipplesrulz | how does one go about securing debian |
| 20:45.09 | davFr | shining : thanks, but how come I can create a deb package properly anymore? a problem wih dh_install |
| 20:45.09 | seldon | ssl tunneling. It listens on one port, does ssl and forwards the decryptd stuff to another port |
| 20:45.11 | kombi | greycat: hmm, does not do it.. (shopt -s extglob; echo rm !(the file), out puts rm file1 file2 but does not remove them |
| 20:45.20 | nipplesrulz | is there a faq on it somewhere to start with? |
| 20:45.24 | streuner | kombi: he is gone |
| 20:45.30 | nipplesrulz | or a good site / part of a site to read? |
| 20:45.33 | kombi | sigh.. |
| 20:45.36 | krotz | seldon: Ah, okay, apt-get install stunnel ... ? |
| 20:45.45 | seldon | apt-get install stunnel4, i think |
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| 20:45.48 | appaji | starscalling: apt-cache search debian harden |
| 20:45.52 | seldon | kombi: remove the echo |
| 20:45.57 | krotz | thx seldon: I'll try :) |
| 20:46.00 | kombi | seldon: thanks |
| 20:46.27 | shining | lol |
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| 20:47.00 | seldon | You may also want to replace the ; with && |
| 20:47.07 | kombi | seldon: :) |
| 20:47.13 | krotz | seldon: However, I've got stunnel, I use ssl with glFTPd, works like a charm. |
| 20:47.19 | krotz | ssl/tls |
| 20:47.27 | amorphix | phew why is kopete's irc client so slow |
| 20:47.28 | starscalling | er |
| 20:47.28 | seldon | Then the rm command won`t be executed when shopt fails |
| 20:47.30 | aFlag | i did a aptitude update then a aptitude dist-upgrade and it wants to install kernel 2.4.27 for some reason, how do i find out what package needs it? |
| 20:47.52 | seldon | That shouldn't be often, and the rm command will likely not work then, but it's still a little safer |
| 20:47.55 | amorphix | anyone recommend a good irc client for X? |
| 20:47.55 | shining | amorphix, many things that become with a k are slow |
| 20:48.02 | amorphix | :-/ |
| 20:48.08 | starscalling | i did that |
| 20:48.12 | resiak | amorphix: xchat, irssi |
| 20:48.14 | starscalling | it came up with a lot of crap |
| 20:48.15 | seldon | krotz: afaik, the package stunnel is stunnel 3, where stunnel4 is stunnel 4 |
| 20:48.16 | amorphix | thanks |
| 20:48.21 | shining | amorphix, same |
| 20:48.21 | resiak | amorphix: (I know that you said "for X", but irssi > *) |
| 20:48.26 | shining | yep |
| 20:48.29 | starscalling | how do i read harden-doc for instance |
| 20:48.33 | seldon | stunnel 4 has some nifty features stunnel 3 lacks, so I'd rather use that one |
| 20:48.51 | krotz | seldon: There is no package named stunnel4, only stunnel. |
| 20:48.55 | krotz | seldon: I searched |
| 20:48.58 | seldon | Oh, ok. |
| 20:49.02 | seldon | They changed it, then |
| 20:49.07 | krotz | Yeah, must've. |
| 20:49.13 | starscalling | how do i read harden-doc for instance appaji |
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| 20:49.24 | seldon | No, they didn't, just looked. |
| 20:49.27 | seldon | You use woody, right? |
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| 20:49.33 | seldon | woody doesn't have stunnel4 yet |
| 20:49.37 | starscalling | :/ |
| 20:49.42 | starscalling | where are the vhosts too |
| 20:49.47 | krotz | seldon: Oh, woody? |
| 20:49.53 | krotz | seldon: I don't think I use that. |
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| 20:50.27 | seldon | Hm. sarge already has stunnel4, so... |
| 20:50.30 | krotz | seldon: One other thing, if I compile eggdrop from source, it tells me it doesn't find the tcl-thread (tcl.h) but it finds tcl 8.3 fine.. |
| 20:50.33 | appaji | starscalling: first apt-cache show those packages and then apt-get install the ones you need and go check in /usr/share/doc. |
| 20:50.44 | starscalling | ahh |
| 20:50.50 | seldon | Do you have tcl8.3-dev installed? |
| 20:50.52 | starscalling | thankyou appaji |
| 20:50.59 | doublehp | streuner shining adding "acpi=on" at kernel prompt did it fine ... default is always APM on 2.4 ... thats Linux-kernel settings ... |
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| 20:51.09 | pjz | starscalling: apt-cache search is helpful too |
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| 20:51.13 | krotz | Oh! seldon, that might've been the problem! |
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| 20:51.19 | fubar | I think I'm misunderstanding mappings in /etc/network/interfaces. The script should simply echo whatever matches 'map <this> blah' right? |
| 20:51.42 | streuner | doublehp: those kernel-images of debian use ACPI by default |
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| 20:51.50 | seldon | krotz: You may want to install apt-file to find that sort of stuff out in the future |
| 20:51.57 | starscalling | yeah but i have no ideas what im searching for most of the time at this point pjz |
| 20:52.02 | krotz | seldon: ok cool, thanks :) |
| 20:52.08 | krotz | seldon: I'm new to debian, got it on a shell. |
| 20:52.27 | seldon | Heh. Hey, everybody started somewhen. ;P |
| 20:52.32 | krotz | hehehe |
| 20:52.34 | krotz | Yuh :) |
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| 20:53.08 | seldon | The most useful debian tools are apt-cache and apt-file |
| 20:53.27 | drini_ | dpkg |
| 20:53.31 | drini_ | is my fav |
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| 20:53.34 | drini_ | ;) |
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| 20:53.51 | seldon | Well, yeah. dpkg and apt-get go without saying. |
| 20:54.23 | seldon | But apt-cache and apt-file help you find out what else you need. They're kind of meta-useful, like man. |
| 20:54.45 | drini_ | yes, they're the next best tools |
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| 20:56.17 | pi_ | okay, so i've mounted my windows share using mount -t smbfs, and I cannot write to any of this share, and I can read only a few directories of this share. |
| 20:56.23 | pi_ | What is the problem? |
| 20:57.25 | kombi | seldon: how do you make it work for dirs too? (shopt -s extglob; rm -r /the/path/ ! file1 file2) |
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| 20:57.33 | kupo | hey is anyone familiar with wavemon ? |
| 20:57.33 | amorphix | how do i add new sources into apt? |
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| 20:57.46 | pi_ | amorphix, /etc/sources.list |
| 20:57.52 | pi_ | the apt-get update |
| 20:58.16 | seldon | kombi: That's a little more complicated. |
| 20:58.19 | seldon | I'd probably use find |
| 20:58.24 | amorphix | pi_at: isnt there a tool which allows you to select sources? |
| 20:58.36 | kombi | and pipe that to rm.. |
| 20:58.42 | gnufan | amorphix, have you looked at the Debian reference guide? |
| 20:58.47 | seldon | find . -name ! file1 -exec rm '{}' \; should work, I think. |
| 20:58.48 | amorphix | apt-sources or something |
| 20:58.53 | seldon | But better take a look at the find manpage |
| 20:59.14 | kombi | seldon: thanks! |
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| 21:00.01 | pi_ | Hrm. |
| 21:00.30 | seldon | pi_: Use smbmount |
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| 21:00.37 | pi_ | I'm mounting the smb share using a username that is an administrator on the wind0wz machine.. but I cannot read some directories, or write at all. |
| 21:00.41 | kupo | anyone use wavemon ? |
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| 21:00.49 | kupo | i cant seem to install it |
| 21:00.53 | seldon | pi_: Is the share shared read-write? |
| 21:00.57 | pi_ | seldon, It says I should use smbmount through the mount -t smbfs command. |
| 21:01.07 | pi_ | Seldon, Yes. |
| 21:01.15 | leo | Do anybody heard anything about Adagio in Debian? |
| 21:01.18 | pi_ | Besides, that wouldnt explain why I couldnt read some directories. |
| 21:01.20 | seldon | But mount -t smbfs should only work as root, I think |
| 21:01.33 | pi_ | i am root |
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| 21:02.05 | pi_ | but im passing the -o username=<username> -o password=<password> -o rw //share/folder /mnt/folder |
| 21:02.08 | seldon | What command do you use to mount the share? |
| 21:02.09 | pi_ | so like.. that should work. |
| 21:02.21 | seldon | Hm. Yeah, that should work. |
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| 21:02.23 | mtnman | kupo: um, did you try apt-get install wavemon? |
| 21:02.35 | seldon | Can you access the share correctly from other windows boxes? |
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| 21:03.17 | starscalling | jesus fucking christ |
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| 21:03.33 | kupo | mtnman, nah i got the source |
| 21:03.41 | seldon | starscalling: That'd be a sight... |
| 21:03.41 | starscalling | i dont even know what half of these processes are supposed to do :/ |
| 21:03.55 | pi_ | Seldon: Yes. |
| 21:03.58 | diepes | hi, is there a irc list specializing on Ipsec ? |
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| 21:04.03 | starscalling | wow |
| 21:04.13 | mtnman | kupo: well, apt-get install wavemon would be the easy way. |
| 21:04.17 | starscalling | im starting to wonder why i have debian again :/ |
| 21:04.18 | seldon | pi_: Then that error is truly weird. |
| 21:04.19 | starscalling | fuck this |
| 21:04.24 | starscalling | im not dealing with anything today |
| 21:04.25 | starscalling | but |
| 21:04.30 | starscalling | correct me if im wrong |
| 21:04.34 | kupo | mtnman, yeah it would but i cant find it in the repo |
| 21:04.35 | starscalling | if i just set up a firewall |
| 21:04.43 | citral | !enter |
| 21:04.43 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
| 21:04.46 | pi_ | seldon, although, this might explain it. |
| 21:04.50 | mtnman | kupo: which debian_version? |
| 21:04.53 | starscalling | i could just block all outside entry except the ports i leave open neh? |
| 21:05.13 | pi_ | During the install of smbclient and smbfs, it asked if I wante to use clear text passwords, and that later windows clients don't support clear text passwords, etc. |
| 21:05.19 | eeEE | i'm installing php4.3.9 from an apt source, have problems, see flood. |
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| 21:05.27 | citral | starscalling: your question already contains its answer... |
| 21:05.31 | pi_ | But im not sure how to connect without using clear text passwords. |
| 21:05.31 | kupo | mtnman, im using fedora |
| 21:05.39 | dupondje | eth0: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature. <- what does this mean ? :s |
| 21:05.41 | dupondje | plz :s |
| 21:05.47 | mtnman | kupo: you're on the wrong channel for fedora help. |
| 21:05.49 | starscalling | then lets see if i can figure out that thing |
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| 21:05.56 | kupo | mtnman, well its a debian program |
| 21:06.18 | seldon | pi_: I think the clear text password is just an option for the samba server, and only determines whether they are stored on the disk in clear text or not |
| 21:06.31 | Pappa | now this is unstable |
| 21:06.33 | mtnman | kupo: wtf are you talking about? |
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| 21:06.36 | valdyn | seldon: no, false |
| 21:06.40 | kupo | mtnman, ive used it on a lot of knoppix live cds |
| 21:06.56 | seldon | Oh, ok. Either way, it shouldn't affect the user interface. |
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| 21:07.03 | seldon | It's just something samba uses in the backend |
| 21:07.04 | mtnman | kupo: i hate to be insulting, but you sound more and more idiotic. |
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| 21:07.07 | gogo_ | :) |
| 21:07.15 | valdyn | pi_: very old windows versions use clear text authentication, everything else uses encrypted passwords |
| 21:07.18 | gnufan | pi_, cleartext passwords were all samba use to support so a lot of ppl made their windows boxes work with cleartext. No need these days to use cleartext. |
| 21:07.20 | Pappa | i forgot to add a sleep at the end of a while-true loop, and the whole damn system runs like syrup (as in 15-minutes-to-type-a-character) |
| 21:07.22 | kupo | mtnman, gee thanks for your help, bye now |
| 21:07.32 | huhmz | Does subversion not come with init script for the server (svnserve) ? |
| 21:07.46 | mtnman | kupo: yeah, bye now. |
| 21:07.48 | dupondje | plz somebody help me :( |
| 21:07.52 | dupondje | nobody knows :s |
| 21:07.52 | valdyn | pi_: ( that means by default, it can be switched in windows too ) |
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| 21:08.28 | aardvark | zit niet te zeiken dupondje |
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| 21:08.36 | seldon | huhmz: svnserve is usually started from inetd |
| 21:08.43 | Siropel | http://img141.echo.cx/img141/1633/siropel6yr.png |
| 21:08.49 | jc-denton | where can i get gcc4 packages for unstable |
| 21:08.55 | huhmz | seldon: oh |
| 21:09.08 | valdyn | jc-denton: why the hell would you want that? |
| 21:09.24 | seldon | jc-denton: experimental has them |
| 21:09.43 | seldon | They're experimental though, and it replaces libgcc1 with a newer version, so I'd think twice before doing that. |
| 21:10.03 | jc-denton | valdyn: play |
| 21:10.12 | jc-denton | ah ok |
| 21:10.24 | valdyn | !info gcc-snapshot sid |
| 21:10.26 | seldon | jc-denton: If you value your system's stability, that is |
| 21:10.26 | dpkg | gcc-snapshot: (A SNAPSHOT of the GNU Compiler Collection), section devel, is extra. Version: 20050319-1 (sid), Packaged size: 45092 kB, Installed size: 160048 kB |
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| 21:10.32 | FarrisG | what tool do you use to automatically mount a usb harddrive when hotplug/udev gives it a device node? |
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| 21:10.38 | aFlag | i did a aptitude update then a aptitude dist-upgrade and it wants to install kernel 2.4.27 for some reason, how do i find out what package needs it? |
| 21:11.05 | mtnman | farrisg: i would guess hotplug |
| 21:11.08 | valdyn | jc-denton: gcc-4.0 isnt not even supposed to bring any change useful for end users |
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| 21:11.13 | citral | FarrisG: I use my fingers, fstab and mount /media/usb :) |
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| 21:11.32 | PerfDave | valdyn: I think that gcc-4.0 has a big improvement for pentium-m compilation. |
| 21:11.42 | Pappa | heh, my proxy runs 2.4-STABLE7.. now that's old |
| 21:11.43 | gnufan | dupondje, looks like it can't use some subtle optimisation due to lack of hardware - doesn't sound critical to me. |
| 21:11.44 | jc-denton | valdyn: hey i just want to have a look at it and play with it |
| 21:11.50 | jc-denton | yes |
| 21:11.54 | jc-denton | valdyn: and i have a pentium-m |
| 21:11.55 | mtnman | citral: i guess that would qualify as the "manual" method... |
| 21:11.56 | valdyn | PerfDave: oh does it have optimisations already? |
| 21:12.02 | seldon | aFlag: apt-cache showpkg kernel-image-2.4.27-foo-bar shows you what packages depend on kernel-image-2.4.27-foo-bar. |
| 21:12.04 | PerfDave | valdyn: I believe so. |
| 21:12.05 | FarrisG | citral: I do the same thing, looking to automate it :) |
| 21:12.11 | citral | mtnman: wich is the right one, imho |
| 21:12.22 | valdyn | PerfDave: last i read it was mainly about a new infrastructure for optimisations |
| 21:12.24 | mtnman | citral: i agree. |
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| 21:12.45 | PerfDave | valdyn: ...and Pentium-M optimisations. And integration of fortran ;) |
| 21:12.48 | mtnman | farrisg: although he did ask for an automatic method. |
| 21:12.51 | kupo | anyone on here compiled wavemon from a tarball ? |
| 21:12.53 | citral | FarrisG: but you can look at tools like automount, that may or may not work |
| 21:13.06 | seldon | What'd you want fortran for? ;P |
| 21:13.14 | mtnman | farrisg: i think you'd need to edit /etc/fstab, for starters.... |
| 21:14.01 | citral | erf, automount does'nt even exist as package |
| 21:14.01 | FarrisG | mtnman: I've got fstab edited. The mapping is there, and it will map at startup or whenever you remount your fstab mappings |
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| 21:14.23 | FarrisG | mtnman: I know that gnome-volume-manager will do it, but this is on a server |
| 21:14.34 | aFlag | seldon, but there's a lot of packages being updated and i want to know which of them now needs it |
| 21:14.34 | citral | FarrisG: apt-cache search automount. gnome-volume-manager worked fine on a gnome box I set up for a friend of mine. |
| 21:15.14 | gnufan | seldon: fortran four - I think even gcc has passed that ;) |
| 21:15.23 | pablo_ | hi! is there any graphical program that cheks the disk for error bad sectors etc etc_? |
| 21:15.33 | FarrisG | maybe autofs will do |
| 21:15.40 | PerfDave | seldon: Uhm, we have a load of fortran coders at work, mostly doing statistical analysis stuff. |
| 21:15.47 | citral | FarrisG: on a server heh, I'd definitely mount manually to avoid problems. |
| 21:15.59 | seldon | Uh... the ;P meant I was only half-serious |
| 21:16.04 | gnufan | PerfDave, don't show them R their brains will explode ;) |
| 21:16.11 | citral | good night. |
| 21:16.16 | PerfDave | gnufan: Some use R, some use Stata, some just use fortran. |
| 21:16.25 | FarrisG | citral: Yeah. I'm trying to setup things so that folks can run the backups when I'm on vacation. But i'll just work the mounting into my scripts |
| 21:16.53 | mtnman | farrisg: that sound like a good idea. |
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| 21:18.12 | gnufan | PerfDave, I use to be trying to drag a team doing statistics in Fortran into the modern era... each to their own I guess. |
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| 21:18.29 | AdrianLP | If a usb "thumb drive" is plugged into one of many USB ports (6+ ports), is there any easy way to see which device to mount? Or is trial and error the only method? |
| 21:19.05 | seldon | Well - one can also argue that C is getting a tad old and rusty, but it is still one of the most-used languages out there. |
| 21:19.15 | valdyn | AdrianLP: dmesg |
| 21:19.29 | AdrianLP | valdyn: It wasn't there at boot time. |
| 21:19.42 | FarrisG | AdrianLP: You can tail -f /var/log/dmesg before you plug it in |
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| 21:19.44 | AdrianLP | valdyn: That is the only way? Or can I force polling of all devices? |
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| 21:19.56 | AdrianLP | FarrisG: I shall try that. Thank you. |
| 21:19.58 | valdyn | Adre |
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| 21:20.15 | amorphix | whats the command which lets you add setup apt sources? |
| 21:20.27 | Phated | apt-setup. |
| 21:20.29 | FarrisG | AdrianLP: Or if you've mucked with your logs and everything is only going to syslog, tail -f /var/log/syslog |
| 21:20.33 | valdyn | AdrianLP: dmesg isnt a bad way, theres a debian package polling that for you though too |
| 21:20.33 | amorphix | thanks Phated |
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| 21:21.16 | leo | Anyone here do connects well to Gnutella2 network? |
| 21:21.16 | luct | hi |
| 21:21.17 | a | I have a strange problem: Normally I can boot up from my SCSI disk without problems. If I insert my new SATA controler card the machine won't boot anymore: BOOT FAILURE. INSERT BOOT DISK AND PRESS ENTER. However, in my BIOS I have selected SCSI as the IDE/SCSI first priority. What to do? |
| 21:21.36 | AdrianLP | Ok, great. My next question, if I use the usb-storage and sd_mod module, that should be all I need for the device to be recognised? |
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| 21:22.11 | amorphix | something strange happened... I installed Debian on my desktop PC and everything went fine, i had sound when X started (800x600) i updated my config and set graphics card up, logged into X again with higher resolution and sound doesnt work anymore :-/ |
| 21:22.17 | seldon | AdrianLP: You need ehci_hcd as well |
| 21:22.33 | AdrianLP | seldon: This is a kernel module also? |
| 21:22.37 | seldon | Yes |
| 21:23.00 | seldon | That is assuming your thumb drive knows usb 2.0 |
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| 21:23.06 | leo | amorphix: maybe you messed up your sound config while setting up tour video card |
| 21:23.11 | seldon | otherwise, that'd be uhci_hcd or ohci_hcd |
| 21:23.20 | valdyn | amorphix: you X stuff has nothing to do with sound, you sure did something else too ( like reboot ) |
| 21:23.23 | MoDaX | a: it isn't debian related problem, is it? it seems like buggy or misconfigured bios. |
| 21:23.27 | amorphix | leonel: thats possible but i wasnt asked any questions about soundcard |
| 21:23.45 | amorphix | i dunno what went wrong |
| 21:23.57 | AdrianLP | seldon: NOt sure to be honest. Its an old 64mb Apacer. I can't recall if it claims to be USB 2.0 compliant or not. BUT, I'm using my USB 2.0 printer, perhaps that suggests I'm setup. I haven't done anything on this machine in ages. |
| 21:24.22 | amorphix | i was asked IRQ and address settings for network card tho on 2nd config, maybe theres a conflict with soundcard? |
| 21:24.22 | seldon | ehci is usb 2, uhci and ohci are two different kinds of usb 1 |
| 21:24.38 | seldon | I suggest you try ehci first, then uhci and ohci. One of them should do the trick |
| 21:24.40 | mtnman | farrisg: if you are still around, try looking at the hotplug pacakge. |
| 21:25.31 | FarrisG | mtnman: Still around, but have agreed that automounting these drives when plugged into the server might not be a hot idea |
| 21:25.42 | FarrisG | mtnman: Thanks for the consideration, though! |
| 21:25.57 | mtnman | farrisg: in any case, i think hotplug is the solution the the question you asked. |
| 21:26.03 | NeedVaseline | http://i.euniverse.com/funpages/cms_content/6489/a-maze-ing_new_cursor3.swf |
| 21:26.08 | amorphix | my sound doesnt work :( |
| 21:26.27 | FarrisG | mtnman: I am currently using hotplug/udev to create the device nodes and the symlinks for these drives |
| 21:26.27 | mtnman | farrisg: but i agree that if you only need it for backups, mounting via script is a good way to go. |
| 21:26.43 | leo | amorphix: make sure your volume controls are OK |
| 21:27.06 | amorphix | ok |
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| 21:28.27 | gsp | hey all... how do I make dpkg reconfigure something? |
| 21:28.41 | streuner | gsp: dpkg-reconfigue package |
| 21:28.55 | gsp | thanks |
| 21:28.57 | gsp | exit |
| 21:30.36 | leonel | <amorphix> leonel: thats possible but i wasnt asked any questions about soundcard <-- Ok no prob |
| 21:31.44 | amorphix | leonel: no sound :-( |
| 21:32.30 | amorphix | leonel: any idea what this means: |
| 21:33.00 | amorphix | brio:/etc/apt# esd |
| 21:33.00 | amorphix | Segmentation fault |
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| 21:33.57 | sobersabre | hello guys. i am sarge person. shall i use sid ? |
| 21:34.06 | amorphix | no |
| 21:34.11 | NeedVaseline | sobersabre: I dont know. (most intelligent comment ever made by me) |
| 21:34.13 | amorphix | sarge is better |
| 21:34.14 | valdyn | !tell sobersabre about sid |
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| 21:35.59 | sobersabre | hmmm the question is not if one has skill to find the way in the broken packages... the queston is if one has the time for this ... |
| 21:36.07 | shad__ | is there an easy way to create CD-sized images from a much larger set of files? |
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| 21:36.33 | sobersabre | shadfc, dd |
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| 21:37.49 | GmLB | At a certain point in time today a directory was deleted, along with all of its contents, and then the directory was recreated, leaving it empty (the creation time on the dir indicates this). I believe this was a hack attempt, but I cannot find anything suspecious around the time it occured in the Apache logs, syslog, mail log, et cetera. Any suggestions on how to audit this, figure out what or how it happened, or recover more than just the deleted in |
| 21:37.49 | GmLB | odes? |
| 21:37.53 | gsp | how can I reconfigure dpkg? so it doesn't try to use the Xconfig? |
| 21:38.00 | GmLB | I used the "recover" utility, which got me a bunch of dumped inodes (they are indeed the deleted files), but this lost all file-name information, directory structure, et cetera |
| 21:38.12 | streuner | gsp: ? |
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| 21:38.31 | streuner | gsp: you wanna configure dpkg or X? |
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| 21:39.19 | sobersabre | i don't follow "larges set of files" means that the set oversizes a CD ? compress ... still you can divide... |
| 21:39.25 | sudo|chmod | is there a debian java package that contains most of the widely used libraries (swing, etc) |
| 21:39.30 | gsp | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.42 | abc_ | I have a 120 gb disk. Is it necessary to make a small seperate boot partition or is that just something we did in the old days? |
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| 21:40.08 | reagent | hi. is it possible to create a file with a '/' in its name? |
| 21:40.21 | sobersabre | reagent, touch \/ |
| 21:40.22 | sudo|chmod | reagent: I don't think |
| 21:40.25 | abc_ | I mean: Can lilo handle to boot from a 120 GB partition? |
| 21:40.35 | krotz | seldon: ya still there ? |
| 21:40.38 | streuner | gsp: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
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| 21:40.46 | gsp | debconf... got it |
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| 21:40.54 | sobersabre | :) |
| 21:41.06 | sobersabre | abc_, you don't need lilo... |
| 21:41.06 | reagent | sobersabre: I can't escape it, I guess it's not allowed because / is reserved for directories :( |
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| 21:41.19 | sun_ | hi how do i get firefox to be the default mozilla? |
| 21:41.24 | streuner | abc_: lilo isn't care how large the partition is |
| 21:41.25 | krotz | configure: error: You requested SSL support, but OpenSSL was not found. Please supply a pathname to OpenSSL ..openssl is installed, what path should I set? |
| 21:41.30 | sobersabre | reagent, its not possible because / is reserved for ... / ?!?! :) |
| 21:41.38 | xelam | the "default mozilla"? |
| 21:41.54 | ecralos | Has anyone experience the Report Magic package from unstable refusing to load the config file? |
| 21:41.54 | sun_ | xelam i mean when i type "mozilla" i want firefox, not mozilla |
| 21:42.09 | xelam | firefox isnt mozilla |
| 21:42.20 | abc_ | streuner: But there was a problem booting from large partitions for some years ago. Is this problem still around. That is: Can I skip the /boot partition? |
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| 21:42.23 | reagent | sun_: update-alternatives --config mozilla |
| 21:42.26 | xelam | if you really want that, then symlink firefox to mozilla |
| 21:42.34 | krotz | Where is openssl located ? |
| 21:42.35 | sun_ | how do i keep xdm from starting? |
| 21:42.41 | sobersabre | reagent, it is an absolute path of the root of the whole flesystem tree... |
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| 21:42.50 | streuner | sun_: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 21:43.04 | gsp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:43.18 | streuner | gsp: even when you choose dialog? |
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| 21:43.24 | reagent | xelam: there already is an alternatives mechanism for mozilla |
| 21:43.25 | gsp | I can't! |
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| 21:43.37 | sobersabre | krotz, install openssl-dev |
| 21:43.51 | krotz | yuh, libssl-dev |
| 21:43.52 | krotz | thx |
| 21:43.53 | streuner | gsp: dpkg-reconfigure debconf doesn't work? |
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| 21:43.57 | KomiaPoika | hi |
| 21:43.57 | reagent | sobersabre: Hm, too bad :) |
| 21:43.59 | krotz | found out now sobersabre, but thx :) |
| 21:43.59 | KomiaPoika | how can i decode or unpack microsoft .mso files? |
| 21:44.00 | gsp | dpkg-reconfigure debconf causes an error |
| 21:44.12 | gsp | says failed to start X or something like it |
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| 21:44.32 | xelam | reagent: seems pointless to me ;) |
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| 21:44.49 | PSG|Tartiflette | hi all , I have a problem when i want to start apache i have this error, someone can explain to me how i can resolve my problem please ? [warn] NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts (98) Adress already in use : make_sock: could not bind to adress [::]8008 no listening sockets available,shutting down |
| 21:44.59 | gsp | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.05 | gsp | I'm going to try and force it |
| 21:45.16 | streuner | gsp: no idea, try dialog |
| 21:45.22 | reagent | xelam: http://www.annodex.net/cgi-bin/man/man2html?update-alternatives+8 |
| 21:45.52 | streuner | gsp: dialog is good |
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| 21:46.01 | reagent | PSG|Tartiflette: Looks like you already have a process which bound to that port... |
| 21:46.02 | sobersabre | PSG|Tartiflette, you have another applications bound to the port apache tried to bind... run netstat -a --inet -p | grep 8008 |
| 21:46.06 | sun_ | msg dpkg nodm |
| 21:46.08 | k-man2 | what is meant by the term smarthost in exim? |
| 21:46.20 | PSG|Tartiflette | ok thanks sobersabre i do |
| 21:46.41 | streuner | !tell sun_ about nodm |
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| 21:46.46 | xelam | k-man2: another SMTP server it sends everything through |
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| 21:47.01 | streuner | gsp: do you have dialog installed? |
| 21:47.01 | sun_ | ok thanks ! |
| 21:47.02 | nomed^ | how can i set apt-get to get sparc.deb and not i386.deb? |
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| 21:47.05 | xelam | eg. you could specify your ISP's SMTP server |
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| 21:47.25 | dupondje | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.30 | dupondje | how comes i get that ? :s |
| 21:47.39 | sun_ | how can i get grub to boot into a 50 line vga console rather than 24? |
| 21:47.44 | dupondje | should it be fixxed or not ? |
| 21:47.45 | k-man2 | xelam, so if i want to use my smtp server on my linux box for outgoing mail, i can tell exim to send all external emails to my isp's smtp server by specifying its server as the smarthost? |
| 21:47.59 | xelam | yes |
| 21:48.04 | PSG|Tartiflette | It's this program it's possible ? rpc.statd (it's 80 no 8008 i was in error when i said 8008 ) |
| 21:48.06 | k-man2 | xelam, great, thanks :) |
| 21:48.11 | sobersabre | nomed^, u need a sparc macine or define arch soarc |
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| 21:48.16 | sobersabre | sparc |
| 21:48.39 | reagent | PSG|Tartiflette: rpc.statd should not bind on port 80 (by default) |
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| 21:49.46 | foox | hello |
| 21:49.47 | pablo_ | hi how do i update (security updates only) my system? |
| 21:49.49 | PSG|Tartiflette | what it's this rpc.statd ? I would install SSL on my Vhost, i change many things and i ave not SSL ans my apache don't want start :( . It's maybe me i change it before. How can i rechange it ? |
| 21:50.15 | reagent | PSG|Tartiflette: I guess your apache is already running |
| 21:50.17 | nomed^ | sobersabre, ok .. but how ... i have not any sparc machine .. but i would that apt-get searches for sparc .. is it possible? |
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| 21:50.45 | lex | Has anyone found some troubles with windowsupdate? It seems some clients can connect, and some cant (through squid). I find that those that dont want to connect (even thought they have been working fine, and configured with squid for ages), try to access directly some servers through port 80.... Anyone has heard of some microsoft evilness to the efect of rendering squid useless when trying to wupdate? |
| 21:50.56 | lex | I mean... in the context of the squid proxy server |
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| 21:51.15 | reagent | PSG|Tartiflette: stop it, check ps ax for any running instances and start it again. or lsof -i, or try that netstat command |
| 21:51.33 | cog_ | is there an installer that uses the 2.6 kernel, bf2.4 isn't recognising my HD abover 137GB (its's only kernel 2.4.18 and it needs to be 2.4.19) |
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| 21:52.13 | reagent | cog_: Not for debian woody, try the installers for sarge |
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| 21:53.15 | Soeki | greetz, can anyone help me ? =) pls |
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| 21:54.06 | streuner | cog_: so desktop-system? |
| 21:54.13 | cog_ | reagent, thanks. |
| 21:54.28 | cog_ | streuner, no. server. |
| 21:54.43 | NoGodNoMaster | hi all, does anyone know where cpufreqd writes its logs? it once was /var/log/syslog, but now, even with verbosity=0 theres no real logs, only if i mess up the config file ... |
| 21:54.44 | streuner | cog_: uhm |
| 21:54.59 | streuner | cog_: sarge installer installs sarge (TM) ;-) |
| 21:55.11 | CyL | I'm having trouble printing on my sys... every time a send a job to the printer, it is auttomatically cancelled, anda the printer does nothing. What could tha be? |
| 21:55.12 | streuner | cog_: you need the netinstall then... |
| 21:55.45 | cog_ | streuner, are you going to tell me that sarge isn't ready for my server? |
| 21:55.46 | r3v | CyL: you using cups? |
| 21:55.57 | Soeki | i'm trying to add this user: adduser --ingroup domain --shell /dev/null --home /dev/null bioshostname$ |
| 21:56.04 | CyL | r3v<=- yeap |
| 21:56.05 | Soeki | what am i doing wrong? |
| 21:56.11 | streuner | cog_: sure, but we prefer woody (stable) for servers |
| 21:56.17 | r3v | CyL: any error in the web interface? |
| 21:56.22 | PSG|Tartiflette | reagent i put lsof -i and i don't see anything . |
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| 21:56.28 | gsp | How can I reconfigure X? |
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| 21:56.41 | streuner | gsp: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:56.49 | streuner | gsp: you got an error? |
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| 21:56.58 | streuner | gsp: what videocard do you have? |
| 21:56.58 | r3v | CyL: in the status... when you send a print job? |
| 21:57.00 | gsp | streuner: yeah... |
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| 21:57.12 | gsp | streuner: Nvidia GeForce |
| 21:57.13 | cog_ | streuner, ok, then is there a way to resize a partition after i do my woody install then? |
| 21:57.16 | WolfCub_1000 | How do I get a Hauppage PVR 250 to work on Debian Sarge??? |
| 21:57.27 | streuner | gsp: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 21:57.29 | CyL | r3v<=- when I click jobs, and then in show completed jobs, alll the jobs sent are shown as cancelled, even if they don print |
| 21:57.46 | reagent | PSG|Tartiflette: did you stop your webserver before? |
| 21:57.53 | streuner | cog_: parted |
| 21:58.01 | cog_ | does woody really cut it? |
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| 21:58.22 | gsp | streuner: wtf was that? |
| 21:58.25 | PSG|Tartiflette | yes but it's say : Apache 2 ... no pidfile found!Not running ? |
| 21:58.36 | Soeki | i'm trying to add this user: adduser --ingroup domain --shell /dev/null --home /dev/null bioshostname$ --- it gives me an error |
| 21:58.36 | r3v | CyL: in the printers section, there is a status. Mine says "idle, accepting jobs" |
| 21:58.46 | streuner | gsp: type that into your irc-client and you'll see |
| 21:58.52 | reagent | PSG|Tartiflette: odd |
| 21:58.55 | Soeki | i think its the " $ " but i need it to add the user to samba |
| 21:58.58 | CyL | r3v<=- mine says the same |
| 21:58.59 | gsp | I did |
| 21:59.00 | r3v | CyL: does yours give any error or anything when you print? |
| 21:59.13 | gsp | streuner: what was it telling me? |
| 21:59.17 | r3v | CyL: or does it always say idle, accepting |
| 21:59.31 | streuner | gsp: the stuff you need in order to get an nvidia card working? |
| 21:59.46 | CyL | r3v<=- it away says idle, accepting |
| 21:59.55 | streuner | gsp: some of nvidia chips are supported, most not in xfree |
| 22:00.07 | PSG|Tartiflette | What "odd" reagent ? |
| 22:00.18 | r3v | CyL: does it do anyhting when you hit print test page? |
| 22:00.39 | reagent | PSG|Tartiflette: Well, I guess I'm too tired to track that problem :) |
| 22:00.51 | PSG|Tartiflette | roh :( |
| 22:00.55 | WolfCub_1000 | How do I make a tv tuner card work on debian? |
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| 22:01.14 | r3v | WolfCub_1000: what kind? |
| 22:01.27 | CyL | r3v<=- nope... the test page job also show as cnacelled |
| 22:01.31 | WolfCub_1000 | A Hauppage PVR 250 |
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| 22:02.10 | r3v | WolfCub_1000: google it. Mine is some crappy generic bt8xxx. There's some driver you need |
| 22:02.21 | streuner | WolfCub_1000: read the docs in kernel-source /Documentations/video |
| 22:02.25 | r3v | WolfCub_1000: don't have one, so i don't remember what it is |
| 22:02.26 | EvilSporkMan | how do i mount the joliet portion of a hybrid CD? I strongly suspect it is structured thus: ISO 9660 - data, HFS - macintosh installer, Joliet - Windows installer |
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| 22:02.46 | r3v | CyL: hmm. is it usb or parrell? |
| 22:02.55 | CyL | r3v<=- pararell |
| 22:03.09 | CyL | r3v<=- s/pararel/paralel |
| 22:03.11 | r3v | CyL: has the printer worked before? |
| 22:03.16 | CyL | r3v<=- yeap |
| 22:03.16 | paulswm | PARALLEL |
| 22:03.20 | paulswm | :P |
| 22:03.28 | CyL | paulswm<=- you got it right, thanks ;) |
| 22:03.34 | r3v | CyL: you compiled your own kernel? |
| 22:03.47 | CyL | r3v<=- not yet :) |
| 22:03.50 | shining | isn't debian sid a lot more stable than one could think ? |
| 22:04.00 | r3v | CyL: hmmm.... running outta ideas |
| 22:04.08 | streuner | shining: /msg dpgk sid faq |
| 22:04.09 | r3v | shining: yeah |
| 22:04.27 | r3v | shining: i think so anyways. I use it on all my stuff |
| 22:04.36 | paulswm | sid can lull one into a false snese of security |
| 22:04.40 | paulswm | sense |
| 22:04.48 | shining | a lot of ppl compare their distrib to sarge or even woody, so they said debian is totallu outdated |
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| 22:04.59 | r3v | CyL: for fun. cat something to /dev/lp0, and see if anything happens (like a short text file) |
| 22:04.59 | shining | but sid is as stable as these distrib |
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| 22:05.10 | toptnc | hi all |
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| 22:05.15 | r3v | shining: sid is out-dated |
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| 22:06.07 | toptnc | i have a doubt about pam+ldap |
| 22:06.14 | gsp | modprobe nvidia |
| 22:06.15 | streuner | r3v: wtf you are telling people? |
| 22:06.18 | gsp | sorry |
| 22:06.24 | r3v | streuner: when? |
| 22:06.29 | CyL | r3v<=- echo "r3v, please help me" > /dev/lp0, and the printer still remains silent |
| 22:06.37 | streuner | <r3v> shining: sid is out-dated |
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| 22:06.54 | toptnc | i want to exclude some users of ldap authentication |
| 22:06.57 | r3v | streuner: it is. where is new xfree or xorg. where is new kde or it's apps |
| 22:07.14 | paulswm | debian is sensibly geared toward professional use, where stability and security is important. It isn't geared towards gaming kiddies. |
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| 22:07.23 | syntaxis | r3v: KDE 3.4 is available from Alioth, and Gnome 2.10 is available from Experimental |
| 22:07.25 | r3v | streuner: i'm sure it'll catch up when/if sarge ever releases |
| 22:07.25 | toptnc | because when the computer is offline, the system slow down a lot |
| 22:07.34 | syntaxis | r3v: X.org is about the only thing |
| 22:07.49 | r3v | syntaxis: experimental != sid |
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| 22:08.01 | r3v | syntaxis: i commented just on sid |
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| 22:08.21 | EvilSporkMan | r3v: so who, exactly, cares if it's a point-release behind? |
| 22:08.25 | streuner | r3v: newbies don't need sid... |
| 22:08.28 | syntaxis | r3v: fair enough... my follow-up comment to that is it doesn't matter, since the packages are still available |
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| 22:08.38 | r3v | EvilSporkMan: that guy that asked me?? |
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| 22:08.54 | EvilSporkMan | r3v: fair enough |
| 22:09.09 | r3v | man you get jumped on fast for saying some things |
| 22:09.10 | SerajewelKS | i am having trouble getting arts to sync its output properly. everything is delayed by about a half a second. |
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| 22:09.20 | EvilSporkMan | any known workarounds for wine choking on installshield? |
| 22:09.28 | SerajewelKS | which means that visualizations and anything else timed to the sounds look weird |
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| 22:09.40 | syntaxis | r3v: it's generally because people use "it's not in Sid" as an argument for "Debian is out of date", ignoring the fact that the packages are actually readily available, just from somewhere else |
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| 22:09.50 | bourne_again | So far, of the three distros I've tried, debian has been the hardest to install for sure |
| 22:09.56 | bourne_again | Harder then slackware |
| 22:10.11 | EvilSporkMan | bourne_again: i thought the new installer was rather slick. what's the problem? |
| 22:10.18 | SerajewelKS | how can this be corrected? |
| 22:10.18 | bourne_again | No problem, I figured it out |
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| 22:10.30 | thingfish | debian-installer is a snap, I don't see how anyone could say it's difficult. |
| 22:10.31 | r3v | syntaxis: the guy asked about wooky, sarge, and sid. just gave a quick response that sid is out of date too on some things |
| 22:10.39 | bourne_again | im talking about woody, not sarge |
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| 22:10.45 | cafuego | debian wooky! |
| 22:10.47 | EvilSporkMan | bourne_again: the only problems i see with it are no option to check for bad blocks and something else i can't remember |
| 22:10.49 | amorphix | hi guys |
| 22:10.52 | EvilSporkMan | bourne_again: people use woody? =P |
| 22:10.53 | cafuego | bourne_again: Sarge is BY FAR easier than woody. |
| 22:10.54 | r3v | bourne_again: hard to install?? all you do is hit enter |
| 22:10.55 | bourne_again | there is an option to check for bad blocks |
| 22:11.09 | paulswm | thingfish: Well, sound and wireless can require a bit of thought |
| 22:11.13 | bourne_again | I choose woody cuz its a stable release |
| 22:11.16 | amorphix | sirc is much better in X than kopete's irc |
| 22:11.20 | bourne_again | You think I should use sarge? |
| 22:11.30 | zOap|PC | ppl, I have a problem, what could be wrong with my proftpd setup when I log in and get answer, no socket? |
| 22:11.36 | cafuego | bourne_again: Sadly it's also over 2 years old now, which isn't great for desktop use. |
| 22:11.41 | CyL | Anybody here, could please /join #cups |
| 22:11.43 | mngrif | anyone know how to get into a shop in nethack? |
| 22:11.43 | kanzure | zoap: Firewall? |
| 22:11.45 | bourne_again | Oh i see |
| 22:11.46 | EvilSporkMan | bourne_again: the sarge installer hasn't got one afaict, and if you're a home user, you probably want testing |
| 22:11.48 | CyL | sorry people |
| 22:11.52 | Knorrie | hi, how can I tell apt-get not to report "1 not fully installed or removed" for a package because I fixed the specific problem myself |
| 22:11.53 | cafuego | bourne_again: if you're not using the box as a production server, sarge is the way to go. |
| 22:11.56 | CyL | missed the channel windows |
| 22:12.03 | bourne_again | but for production use woody? |
| 22:12.06 | EvilSporkMan | mngrif: open the door? if it's closed for inventory, don't kick it in...the shopkeeper will kill you |
| 22:12.24 | cafuego | bourne_again: Yep, unless you are able/willing to manually apply/install security patches. |
| 22:12.27 | thingfish | bourne_again: if your hardware is not too new. |
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| 22:12.31 | mngrif | EvilSporkMan: i can't find any doors... i figured you had to search for one |
| 22:12.46 | EvilSporkMan | mngrif: then you don't know there's a shop there, do you =P |
| 22:12.52 | cafuego | true, I've had to install sarge on a few production machines coz woody didn't see half the hardware ;-) |
| 22:12.53 | bourne_again | So wait . . . does debian normally only have one major release every 2 years? |
| 22:12.58 | mngrif | EvilSporkMan: "You hear a shopkeeper counting change" |
| 22:13.21 | syntaxis | bourne_again: the release cycle's length has only been a noticeable problem for the last two releases |
| 22:13.22 | cafuego | bourne_again: Just about, yes. |
| 22:13.26 | EvilSporkMan | mngrif: oh, yeah, you have to find the shop...i often don't manage to |
| 22:13.28 | paulswm | bourne_again: If it's an internet-facing box, woody is more secure, but if you want a desktop, then you need sarge |
| 22:13.33 | mngrif | EvilSporkMan: hrm. |
| 22:13.33 | EvilSporkMan | syntaxis: you mean like 5 years? |
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| 22:13.42 | bourne_again | will sarge be more secure once its finished? |
| 22:13.44 | CyL | Anybody here could please help me? Every time I try to print, my printer jobs gets cancelled.... |
| 22:13.57 | cafuego | bourne_again: it will then start receiving security updates, yes. |
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| 22:14.05 | paulswm | bourne_again: It will be as secure at least |
| 22:14.09 | hackeron | I get "sh: /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86: No such file or directory" when trying to run xf86cfg, any ideas? |
| 22:14.16 | phanter | hmm I remember that I have to install xserver-xfree86 and xfwm4 and one other package to get startx up-and-running. What was tat other package again? |
| 22:14.16 | syntaxis | EvilSporkMan: the answer to his question is still "no" - the majority of Debian's releases have been far more frequently interspersed |
| 22:14.18 | bourne_again | ok cool |
| 22:14.21 | EvilSporkMan | bourne_again: i'd say sarge CAN'T be more secure since "security" is proportional to age |
| 22:14.40 | cafuego | hackeron: 1) Don't run 'xf86cfg' - EVER. 2) install x-window-system 3) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 22:14.43 | FieldySnuts | nice troll attempt |
| 22:14.46 | mh_le | when I try to start X it fails that the log says something about GLcore not being loaded and something about a version mismatch.. can anyone help me please? |
| 22:14.52 | hackeron | cafuego: hmm, why not? |
| 22:14.56 | bourne_again | sarge is the "testing" one right |
| 22:14.58 | paulswm | EvilSporkMan: I can't agree, Windows 3.1 is very old but not more secure than 2K or XP |
| 22:15.02 | EvilSporkMan | is debian-amd64 recommended? |
| 22:15.02 | cafuego | hackeron: it's evil |
| 22:15.09 | hackeron | cafuego: in what way? |
| 22:15.18 | EvilSporkMan | paulswm: i'm talking about debian vibes here =P |
| 22:15.22 | cafuego | hackeron: it's non-smart about probing hardware |
| 22:15.29 | mh_le | I using the NVidia drivers btw |
| 22:15.32 | bourne_again | Is there any way to get full sarge ISOs as opposed to a netinst? |
| 22:15.40 | paulswm | EvilSporkMan: Same thing :) |
| 22:15.41 | hackeron | cafuego: its automatic though :) |
| 22:15.44 | cafuego | bourne_again: yes, but keep in mind there's 12 of them. |
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| 22:15.51 | cafuego | hackeron: 'X -configure' |
| 22:15.51 | r3v | bourne_again: only 2 DVDs |
| 22:15.59 | bourne_again | i have a dvd burner |
| 22:16.02 | EvilSporkMan | bourne_again, cafuego: yeah, and they'll go out of date |
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| 22:16.06 | Cyis | any kerberos5 users around? |
| 22:16.11 | cafuego | But do you have time to download 9GB of data? |
| 22:16.12 | hackeron | cafuego: isnt that the exact same thing? |
| 22:16.12 | syntaxis | EvilSporkMan: actually, the security team badly want more frequent releases, since backporting gets harder and harder the further the modern codebase diverges from the old |
| 22:16.16 | bourne_again | i cant find the sarge ISOs on the site |
| 22:16.17 | r3v | bourne_again: go with dvds. comes in handy alot (I have a few sets) |
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| 22:16.24 | cafuego | hackeron: No, not as far as I'm aware. |
| 22:16.28 | phanter | what two common packages do I need to get Xwindows working? |
| 22:16.29 | moya | what package give me a server to play a network iagno ? |
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| 22:16.48 | bourne_again | found it |
| 22:16.57 | EvilSporkMan | phaethon: x-window-system and a window manager of some sort if twm won't do |
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| 22:17.11 | spo0nman | cafuego, does ubuntu break anything? have you used it? |
| 22:17.16 | mh_le | can anyone help? |
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| 22:17.37 | cafuego | spo0nman: I'm using it now, but it's not in topic here. |
| 22:17.39 | r3v | bourne_again: use jigdo for dvd's |
| 22:17.51 | Cyis | jigdo is the only way to go :) |
| 22:17.56 | cafuego | bourne_again: Use bittorrent for the DVD images, even. |
| 22:18.03 | bourne_again | r3v: when i use jigdo it downloads at like 2 kb/s |
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| 22:18.12 | bourne_again | i cant use bit torrent, always crashes on start |
| 22:18.19 | r3v | bourne_again: use a diff mirror |
| 22:18.20 | cafuego | Tsssk. |
| 22:18.30 | Cyis | bourne_again: jigdo is far more reliable downloading the ISO than downloading an ISO as a whole file |
| 22:18.31 | bourne_again | tried 2 or 3 |
| 22:18.33 | r3v | bourne_again: and jigdo lets you update the iso without dl'ing everything |
| 22:18.34 | bourne_again | will try another |
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| 22:18.51 | bourne_again | r3v im not worried about updating the ISO |
| 22:18.53 | r3v | bourne_again: use apt-spy if you wanna find a fast mirror |
| 22:18.57 | bourne_again | im fine running apt-get update |
| 22:18.59 | shining | isnt a netinsy better? |
| 22:19.04 | bourne_again | i cant use apt-spy in windows :-P |
| 22:19.04 | Cyis | I use my old CD to update the new jidgo ISO before installing a new machine |
| 22:19.04 | shining | netinst |
| 22:19.13 | r3v | bourne_again: well you'd think you wouldn't wanna re download 9 gigs |
| 22:19.20 | syntaxis | bourne_again: jigdo downloads files from the Debian package mirrors... if you're able to get a decent d/l speed when upgrading your system, you'll be able to get at least an equivalent speed via jigdo |
| 22:19.43 | Cyis | shingouz: just need the first ISO and can do a full netinst... I'm not sure how current the netinst ISO is compared to the full first disk ISO |
| 22:19.47 | mh_le | I'm using the NVidia drivers, but when I try to start X I get an error saying that it is unable to load GLcore and dmesg says something about a version mismatch.. help! |
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| 22:20.22 | r3v | mh_le: you try #nvidia ?, they might know |
| 22:20.23 | Cyis | mh_le: I use the nVidia drivers for X on two of my workstations... |
| 22:20.39 | shining | mh_le, dpkg-reconfigure xblabla and disable glcore |
| 22:20.48 | FieldySnuts | just don't mention you're from here, they get mad at people being sent from #debian (I don't know why) |
| 22:20.52 | bourne_again | Any idea when sarge will actually come out? |
| 22:21.09 | FieldySnuts | oh, maybe 2009 as i guessed long ago |
| 22:21.09 | bourne_again | I mean as a stable release |
| 22:21.11 | r3v | bourne_again: never :) |
| 22:21.22 | bourne_again | lol, theyll just keep updating it forever and ever? |
| 22:21.32 | r3v | bourne_again: october 2004 was the last date I heard I think. hahaha |
| 22:21.46 | deeno | does linux dir have something similar to the DOS /s switch? |
| 22:21.47 | streuner | bourne_again: troll elsewhere |
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| 22:21.52 | FieldySnuts | engrish? |
| 22:21.55 | streuner | bourne_again: /msg dpkg wir |
| 22:21.58 | r3v | deeno: what does /s do? |
| 22:22.03 | ralf | silent? |
| 22:22.04 | syntaxis | bourne_again: the plan is to freeze more or less as soon as the arm buildds catch up with their backlog |
| 22:22.08 | deeno | searches all subdirectories |
| 22:22.15 | ralf | ls -R |
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| 22:22.20 | ralf | find /path |
| 22:22.20 | FieldySnuts | ls isn't for searching, find is |
| 22:22.33 | ralf | there are many way to search |
| 22:22.47 | Cyis | mh_le: I get the waring (WW) in /var/log/XFree.?.log saying it can't open GLcore along with the error (EE) saying it failed to load GLcore... X works fine for me |
| 22:23.07 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: I don't know why people argue sometimes |
| 22:23.14 | streuner | warning are not relevant |
| 22:23.18 | streuner | errors are |
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| 22:23.28 | moya | what game server should I get to play a network Iagno game ? |
| 22:23.32 | shining | hmm yep you can ignore glcore |
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| 22:23.44 | slyboots | Does anyone know if there is a MSN client for Debian? |
| 22:23.49 | drac | slyboots: gaim |
| 22:23.50 | deeno | thanks |
| 22:23.50 | slyboots | Preferably with Webcam/sound support? |
| 22:23.51 | mh_le | Cyis: I just commented out glcore.. it says that there is a version mismatch between the kernel module and the X module |
| 22:23.51 | ralf | kopete, gaim |
| 22:23.53 | Cyis | slyboots: Gaim |
| 22:23.58 | ralf | centeriqc/amsn |
| 22:24.00 | slyboots | Yea, but Gaim does not support webcam's |
| 22:24.00 | EvilSporkMan | slyboots: gaim-vv |
| 22:24.03 | Guerin | slyboots: gaim-vv might work with cams etc. |
| 22:24.09 | streuner | hm |
| 22:24.12 | slyboots | what does the vv stand for? |
| 22:24.17 | Guerin | voice-video |
| 22:24.18 | EvilSporkMan | voice/video |
| 22:24.22 | drac | slyboots: google -> gaim-vv people.debian.org -> ready packages. |
| 22:24.24 | slyboots | Oh right, cool |
| 22:24.41 | slyboots | I'll try it now.. |
| 22:24.44 | Guerin | i couldn't get it to work, fwiw, but you might have more luck |
| 22:24.48 | EvilSporkMan | mmm, packages |
| 22:24.54 | Guerin | i'm rather stupid and wasn't very motivated |
| 22:24.54 | Cyis | mh_le: possible... what does 'COLUMNS=128 dpkg -l "*nvidia*" |grep ^ii' show you? |
| 22:24.55 | slyboots | So its not on apt? |
| 22:25.08 | EvilSporkMan | slyboots: apt-cache search gaim-vv |
| 22:25.09 | FieldySnuts | apt: is it on you? |
| 22:25.13 | Guerin | slyboots: no, it's still pretty experimental |
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| 22:25.20 | phanter | i want to load some x program over SSH from my server, bbut i know I have to change some setting at the server to make that happen. What setting was that again? |
| 22:25.32 | tabris|away | phanter: probably xhost |
| 22:25.40 | Guerin | phanter: look in sshd_config and all will become clear to you |
| 22:25.45 | Guerin | NOT xhost |
| 22:25.45 | EvilSporkMan | phaethon: X11Forwarding |
| 22:25.45 | paulswm | Guerin isn't as dumb as Guerin makes out |
| 22:25.49 | Cyis | phanter: look for options referring to X11Forwarding |
| 22:25.50 | Guerin | NEVER use xhost |
| 22:25.50 | shining | phaethon, yep its pretty clear |
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| 22:26.20 | slyboots | Odd, nothign ahppened |
| 22:26.20 | shining | oops phanter I meant :p |
| 22:26.29 | slyboots | It just exits with no output |
| 22:26.36 | mh_le | Cyis: is there anyway I can pipe the output of that command to you? I'm in the console.. |
| 22:26.37 | shining | Guerin, never ? |
| 22:26.42 | drac | slyboots: because gaim-vv isn't in apt. |
| 22:26.55 | bourne_again | this time jigdo started at 100 KB/s and went down to 20 . . . . |
| 22:26.56 | Cyis | mh_le: could open a CTCP Query and use /exec |
| 22:26.56 | drac | slyboots: nothing odd about it. just google gaim-vv people.debian.org. |
| 22:26.59 | slyboots | So how do I get it.. |
| 22:27.05 | bourne_again | i cant download a dvd at 20 KB/s |
| 22:27.08 | drac | allready told this :P |
| 22:27.14 | Guerin | shining: never advicse anyone to use xhost. If they need to use xhost, they already know it, and about the risks associated with it. |
| 22:27.24 | FieldySnuts | @hump xhost |
| 22:27.35 | mh_le | Cyis: how do I do that in irssi? |
| 22:27.39 | slyboots | Damn, it does not support MSN lol |
| 22:27.39 | Guerin | @botsnack |
| 22:27.40 | ravenbird | :), Guerin |
| 22:27.49 | FieldySnuts | no big loss there |
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| 22:28.00 | slyboots | Well hell while Im here |
| 22:28.01 | Guerin | slyboots: hrm, it should. IIRC that was the main reason it was written. |
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| 22:28.09 | slyboots | I've a problem with WINE |
| 22:28.18 | WolfCub_1000 | I'm trying to make a WinTV NEXUS-s 2.2 work under sarge, has anyone got any tips since I'm utterly lost... I'm googling but nothings coming up. |
| 22:28.21 | aardvark | slyboots: try AA |
| 22:28.23 | slyboots | When I start any program with wine, my screen blanks out totaly |
| 22:28.33 | slyboots | Then I ahve to cold-boot to get control back :P |
| 22:28.38 | EvanCarroll | Out of curiosity how many people prefer to run 32bit debian on their AMD64s? |
| 22:28.41 | Guerin | slyboots: better than MSN video is to use gnomemeeting at your end and netmeeting at the windows end ... it's the same protocol, just with less obfuscation |
| 22:28.42 | shining | Guerin, well it's just a howto I read somewhere for firing a game on a second X session |
| 22:28.50 | aardvark | EvanCarroll: 12 |
| 22:28.59 | shining | Guerin, I used xhost for that. maybe there is a better way though |
| 22:29.01 | EvilSporkMan | EvanCarroll: I'll let you know as soon as I burn the AMD64 installer |
| 22:29.01 | slyboots | Yea, but I want to use it over MSN messenger |
| 22:29.01 | FieldySnuts | i run something else on 64 bit systems *hide* |
| 22:29.09 | Guerin | shining: yeah... |
| 22:29.11 | aardvark | !badgeros |
| 22:29.12 | dpkg | part of the mushroom framework. |
| 22:29.12 | slyboots | Who the heck uses Netmeeting :P |
| 22:29.17 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 22:29.18 | EvilSporkMan | FieldySnuts: stop pushing Gentoo! |
| 22:29.20 | sun_ | anyone know what would cause a drive to "seek" or write something every 5-10 seconds? it clicks and is somewhat annoying. could it be ext3? |
| 22:29.26 | EvanCarroll | aardvark: nice smart ass answer, I'm very disapointed in debian64, and im going back to 32bit was wondering if anyone else has done that |
| 22:29.36 | EvilSporkMan | EvanCarroll: what's wrong with debian64? |
| 22:29.38 | Guerin | slyboots: well, you'd better complain to MS that their protocol isn't able to be used with free software |
| 22:29.40 | aardvark | !tell EvanCarroll about polls |
| 22:29.47 | Guerin | sun_: journalling |
| 22:30.10 | sun_ | guerin can anything be done about it apart from turning the journaling off? |
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| 22:30.23 | slyboots | haha, Im sure that will be productive |
| 22:30.24 | Guerin | slyboots: people who like open protocols and hate MSN? |
| 22:30.24 | EvanCarroll | EvilSporkMan: If you don't need to run 32bit applications, nothing, if you enjoy using wine/vmware/openoffice then know getting them to work will take longer then installing the os |
| 22:30.39 | shining | Guerin, its at the end of this howto : http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=43 |
| 22:30.44 | cafuego | EvanCarroll: To be honest, i went with Ubuntu for the amd64, that at least is properly supported. |
| 22:30.44 | Guerin | sun_: try fucking with some hdparm settings, maybe. I don't really know. |
| 22:30.45 | paulswm | sun_: If it's making a clikcing noise, watch out for hangs or drive erros displayed on the console or in syslog, ext3 will be using the drive every few seconds, but clikcing is maybe bad |
| 22:30.58 | paulswm | scuse crap typing |
| 22:31.01 | EvilSporkMan | EvanCarroll: why can't you just compile openoffice? |
| 22:31.04 | EvanCarroll | cafuego: Does ubuntu even have a 64bit distro? |
| 22:31.11 | cafuego | EvanCarroll: Yes, it does. |
| 22:31.22 | streuner | EvanCarroll: that's OT |
| 22:31.22 | hackeron | cafuego: ah, you're right, X -configure and xf86cfg are different, if I remember correctly they are the same on xorg, but not sure now. Anyway, thanks for your help. |
| 22:31.32 | cafuego | hackeron: np. |
| 22:31.39 | streuner | EvanCarroll: #debian-amd64 |
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| 22:32.23 | EvanCarroll | EvilSporkMan: Because openoffice requires 32bit libs, and if you install them with the ia32-libs package and ia32-openoffice you get a broken set of libs, and if you have to set up a chroot for it you will find it to be a major hassel with no steep by steep instructions and after the chroot works many apps won't work with it, ie vmware, if i run it iniside chroot it can't modprobe vmmon if i run it outside of chroot with chroots l |
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| 22:32.43 | slyboots | I would just like video support with MSN |
| 22:32.50 | EvanCarroll | streuner: I know the damn channel i'm looking to see if anyone else shares the same views on debian64 and prefers to use 32bit debian on their 64 bit processer |
| 22:32.51 | FieldySnuts | shrug that's what you get for using something that must have 32 bit libs |
| 22:32.53 | streuner | EvanCarroll: cafuego went according to his statement to ubuntu because he didn't get enough bandwidth for :-) |
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| 22:33.05 | EvilSporkMan | EvanCarroll: topic in debian-amd64 says ia32-libs have been "unfucked" |
| 22:33.31 | streuner | EvanCarroll: for debian-isos |
| 22:33.32 | EvanCarroll | EvilSporkMan: By that they mean the problem with ia32-libs post install script overriding /bin/cat has been fixed, but i assure you they are still 'fucked' |
| 22:33.35 | paulswm | sun_: to put it a bit more clearly, ext3 will flush every few seconds. But if you are getting clicking sounds from your drive and those are associated with system pauses or drive seek errors or dma bus resets, then you have a dying drive, is what I meant to say. Your description of "clicking" prompted this response |
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| 22:33.59 | EvilSporkMan | EvanCarroll: well...you could always dual-boot |
| 22:34.02 | cafuego | streuner: At that point yes. Now I stick with it, as I prefer GNome as DE and it's somewhat better integrated and more up2date then the debian one :-) |
| 22:34.14 | kanzure | I'm registering a domain name, it asks for DNS servers, do I put my IP address / host name (my-ip-in-odd-form.provider.net) ? |
| 22:34.21 | Loof | Odd, I just noticed that one of the 'patches' to the "2.6.11" debian kernel is the 2.6.11.7 patch...you'd think they'd just up the version number so that it isn't confusing :P |
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| 22:34.38 | cafuego | Loof: The package system would possibly not cope. |
| 22:34.45 | FieldySnuts | if you don't understand that, let somebody else do it for you (i can't see anyone explaining it for 30 minutes here) |
| 22:34.59 | streuner | cafuego: so help those folks in #debian-amd64? |
| 22:35.12 | cafuego | streuner: Why/ I don't use debian-amd64. |
| 22:35.22 | EvanCarroll | EvilSporkMan: The package manager bugged a copy of ia32-libs and uploaded it, it propagated mirrors, and woudlen't install because it wanted to wright over /bin/cat, that problem was fixed and took about 3days, now it installs but things like vmware will make calls to gtk+libs that will result in errors on stderr "cannot convert utf-8 to string" and then no text for vital dialog boxes |
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| 22:35.32 | paulswm | kanzure: Normally the entity with which you registered your domain provides DNS services and should give you DNS servers |
| 22:35.37 | WolfCub_1000 | How can I check if my tv tuner card is working? |
| 22:35.40 | EvanCarroll | write* |
| 22:35.47 | EvilSporkMan | EvanCarroll: gotcha. i think i might go to ubuntu... |
| 22:35.55 | streuner | WolfCub_ those btv chips are very well supported |
| 22:35.58 | kanzure | paulswm: I'm hosting myself, does that change anything? |
| 22:36.02 | slyboots | What the heck.. |
| 22:36.03 | slyboots | onfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
| 22:36.11 | r3v | WolfCub_1000: xawtv? |
| 22:36.14 | WolfCub_1000 | How do I check if it works though? isn't there a program to tell me? |
| 22:36.16 | streuner | WolfCub_1000: those btv chips are very well supported |
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| 22:36.17 | WolfCub_1000 | Ok ill try that. |
| 22:36.22 | slyboots | Um : |
| 22:36.24 | slyboots | checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp |
| 22:36.24 | slyboots | configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
| 22:36.29 | slyboots | even, What the heck does that mean? |
| 22:36.30 | FieldySnuts | @stfu slyboots |
| 22:36.31 | ravenbird | SHUT THE FUCK UP slyboots! |
| 22:36.32 | resiak | !b-e slyboots |
| 22:36.32 | dpkg | slyboots: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
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| 22:36.50 | CyL | When I try to print anything using cups, the jobs get cancelled... in /var/log/cups/error_log, there is a line that says it was unable to convert file 0 to printable format for the job.... |
| 22:36.55 | paulswm | kanzure: I don't know, but your registrar should provide authoritative DNS, if you want to procide that yourself I suppose you could |
| 22:36.57 | slyboots | What.. libcpp? |
| 22:37.09 | FieldySnuts | paulswm: very unlikely his ISP will give him that though |
| 22:37.10 | dondelelcaro | slyboots: no, you need to install build-essential. |
| 22:37.21 | slyboots | .. Which build-essential though |
| 22:37.25 | dondelelcaro | slyboots: uh, there's only one. |
| 22:37.28 | dondelelcaro | !info build-essential |
| 22:37.31 | dpkg | build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1 (sid), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB |
| 22:37.31 | kanzure | paulswm: Because this registrant, gkg, says "DNS hosting" is $8/yr. I don't remember any fees before like that >:O |
| 22:37.37 | slyboots | Ohh! build-essential is a package? |
| 22:37.38 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: Yes, I wouldn't want to do that anyway |
| 22:37.59 | resiak | slyboots: No, it's a banana. |
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| 22:38.04 | paulswm | kanzure: That sounds normal and reasonable |
| 22:38.06 | dondelelcaro | resiak: I thought it was a coconut |
| 22:38.07 | slyboots | :P |
| 22:38.18 | slyboots | A coconut carried over by a swallow? |
| 22:38.21 | resiak | dondelelcaro: Maybe it's a brick |
| 22:38.25 | FieldySnuts | a european or african swallow? |
| 22:38.44 | paulswm | kanzure: I mean thats like less than 3 cents a day, how reasonable can you get :P |
| 22:38.56 | slyboots | Well if its a africian swallow no problem, but then again they are non-migratary arnt they |
| 22:39.11 | WolfCub_1000 | So like I just plug the tv card in and that's it, it should be just a givin' 'er right now then eh? no need to install no drivers and such? |
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| 22:39.20 | FieldySnuts | explain to me again, how sheeps bladders can be used to prevent earthquakes? |
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| 22:39.29 | sonimt | just try harder |
| 22:39.29 | JeffWilson12 | How can I scroll up in a console session? I need to get some information from apt that I missed |
| 22:39.34 | FieldySnuts | shift-pageup |
| 22:39.44 | appaji | JeffWilson12: Shift + PageUP |
| 22:39.45 | JeffWilson12 | FieldySnuts: thanks. :) |
| 22:40.01 | resiak | Or, if you use screen, ^A<ESC>PgUP ;) |
| 22:40.10 | r3v | JeffWilson12: roll your wheel on mouse up if you have it set up cool |
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| 22:40.27 | paulswm | Presumably after the sheeps' bladders have been detached from the sheep? |
| 22:40.41 | JeffWilson12 | r3v: heh...doesn't work for me :) |
| 22:40.57 | r3v | JeffWilson12: yeah... involves lots of setup |
| 22:41.04 | JeffWilson12 | Shift + PGUP doesn't show what I want though - apt cleaned the screen because a debconf page came up ... how can I see the "suggested packages" and "recommended packages" for a package? |
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| 22:41.30 | r3v | JeffWilson12: apt-cache show... it's in that info I think |
| 22:41.31 | JeffWilson12 | I mean Shift + PgUP works, but the stuff I wanted to see was cleared :) |
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| 22:42.36 | resiak | Lots of setup for a scrollwheel? |
| 22:42.50 | JeffWilson12 | r3v: Thanks. :) |
| 22:43.31 | r3v | resiak: in a tty, yeah |
| 22:43.36 | pixil9 | Anyone know where I can find out more info on rcx.d runlevels? |
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| 22:44.09 | streuner | pixil9: why do you think you need to change there anything? |
| 22:44.23 | resiak | r3v: As in a vt rather than an xtrem? |
| 22:44.29 | resiak | r3v: In which case, sure, that's hard. |
| 22:44.59 | pixil9 | streuner, I added a radio to /etc/init.d which does ln -s /dev/radio0 /dev/radio and it's +x.. I did update-rc.d radio defaults.. but I want to understand why it adds it to 6 run levels. |
| 22:45.03 | r3v | resiak: yeah, but possible |
| 22:45.34 | resiak | r3v: teh how? |
| 22:45.44 | WolfCub_1000 | Xaw tv doesn't see the tuner card. |
| 22:45.49 | k-man2 | do you have to download the ipsec stuff for the kernel seperate from the kernel source itself? |
| 22:46.37 | streuner | pixil9: man update-rc.d as a start |
| 22:46.41 | r3v | resiak: there's a package that does mouse on console (don't remember name), then you can play with configs to make it scroll up on wheel. not worth the work it takes |
| 22:46.43 | Guerin | pixil9: man update-rc.d; look for defaults |
| 22:47.16 | pixil9 | I did |
| 22:47.20 | pixil9 | It doesn't explain the run levels |
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| 22:47.42 | resiak | r3v: gpm |
| 22:47.44 | CyL | Evrey time I ty to print something with cups, the jobs get cancelled. In /var/log/cups/error_log, cups says "unable to convert file 0 to printable format" |
| 22:47.48 | r3v | resiak: yeah... that |
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| 22:48.23 | FieldySnuts | @nickometer lololo |
| 22:48.25 | ravenbird | 'lololo' is 0.000% lame, fieldysnuts |
| 22:48.29 | FieldySnuts | realllly. |
| 22:48.34 | bltzfsck | extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" |
| 22:48.34 | lololo | hahaha |
| 22:48.40 | bltzfsck | what's that mean? |
| 22:48.45 | streuner | pixil9: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 22:48.45 | lololo | ....................|.......o.........|.... |
| 22:48.45 | lololo | .|........|.........O.................|.... |
| 22:48.45 | lololo | .|........|...........................|.... |
| 22:48.45 | lololo | .O........O....|......................x.... |
| 22:48.45 | lololo | ........|......|........|.................. |
| 22:48.46 | lololo | ........|..... |........|.........|........ |
| 22:48.46 | *** kick/#debian [lololo!~debhelper@debhelper.user] by debhelper (flood) |
| 22:48.50 | EvanCarroll | is the AMD64 chipset compatable with K7? |
| 22:48.56 | *** join/#debian omry (~Omry@IGLD-83-130-162-33.inter.net.il) |
| 22:48.57 | FieldySnuts | what the? |
| 22:48.57 | *** join/#debian lololo (~eifersuch@ccnat01.satxpress.net) |
| 22:49.05 | lololo | .....................................|..... |
| 22:49.07 | lololo | ..........|......|...................|..... |
| 22:49.07 | FieldySnuts | lololo: having fun? |
| 22:49.09 | lololo | ....|.....|......|..............|....#..... |
| 22:49.10 | pixil9 | streuner, thx |
| 22:49.11 | FieldySnuts | @ops lololo flooding |
| 22:49.11 | lololo | ....|.....|......|.....|........|.......... |
| 22:49.12 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: lololo flooding |
| 22:49.13 | lololo | ....#.....O.|....o.....|........O.......... |
| 22:49.14 | *** join/#debian thelark- (~x@64.252.189.54) |
| 22:49.15 | lololo | |...........|..........|................... |
| 22:49.17 | lololo | |...........O..........O............|...... |
| 22:49.19 | streuner | !ops lololo flooding the channel |
| 22:49.19 | lololo | o...........................|.......|.....| |
| 22:49.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: lololo flooding the channel |
| 22:49.21 | lololo | ............................|.......|.....| |
| 22:49.22 | resiak | !eternal sunday |
| 22:49.22 | FieldySnuts | ruin |
| 22:49.22 | dpkg | Eternal Sunday of The Clueless Mind. Yes, folks, due to popular demand, every day is now sunday. See <sunday>. |
| 22:49.23 | lololo | ....|..........|............|.......o.....| |
| 22:49.25 | lololo | ....|..........|....|.......O.............o |
| 22:49.27 | lololo | niggers |
| 22:49.30 | *** join/#debian sese_ (~sese@76.Red-83-43-242.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:49.31 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.31 | lololo | subhuman niggers |
| 22:49.31 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.33 | lololo | join #gnaa |
| 22:49.33 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.35 | lololo | join #gnaa |
| 22:49.36 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.37 | streuner | +m |
| 22:49.37 | lololo | lol |
| 22:49.39 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.39 | lololo | lol |
| 22:49.39 | JeffWilson12 | what the fuck? |
| 22:49.40 | FieldySnuts | @ops gnaa flooding |
| 22:49.40 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: gnaa flooding |
| 22:49.41 | lololo | fialures |
| 22:49.42 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.43 | lololo | niggers |
| 22:49.45 | lololo | subhuman niggers |
| 22:49.47 | lololo | WTC IS GAY |
| 22:49.51 | lololo | WTC IS GAY LOL WTC IS GAY |
| 22:49.53 | lololo | WTC IS GAY |
| 22:49.55 | lololo | LOL WTC IS GAY |
| 22:49.58 | FieldySnuts | what the hell is wtc |
| 22:49.58 | reagent | !op |
| 22:50.01 | lololo | JEWS DID WTC |
| 22:50.02 | EvanCarroll | why isn't the ban bot kicking him |
| 22:50.03 | *** join/#debian thelark- (~x@64.252.189.54) |
| 22:50.03 | lololo | JEWS DID WTC JEWS HIT WTC BUILDING |
| 22:50.04 | appaji | @ops lololo folooding |
| 22:50.04 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: lololo folooding |
| 22:50.05 | lololo | LOL FAILURes |
| 22:50.05 | *** join/#debian dcom (~dcom@cpc2-bror3-4-0-cust29.bmly.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:50.06 | pixil9 | lololo: yo. get a life? k? thx. |
| 22:50.07 | lololo | FIELDYSNUTS fAILS |
| 22:50.09 | lololo | WTC = WORLD TRADE CENTER |
| 22:50.10 | FieldySnuts | :( |
| 22:50.11 | lololo | YOU DUMBASS |
| 22:50.13 | FieldySnuts | oh lame |
| 22:50.13 | lololo | WTC = WORLD TRADE CENTER |
| 22:50.14 | dcom | Pi to one MILLION decimal places |
| 22:50.16 | dcom | 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 |
| 22:50.17 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.17 | reagent | !ops |
| 22:50.18 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.18 | dpkg | Please invoke '! ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 22:50.18 | FieldySnuts | what the fuck do jews have to do with that |
| 22:50.19 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.20 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.20 | lololo | LOL @ PIXIL, THE MAN IN A DEBIAN CHANNEL |
| 22:50.21 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.22 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.22 | lololo | LOL @ PIXIL, THE MAN IN A DEBIAN CHANNEL |
| 22:50.23 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.24 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.25 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.25 | lololo | LOL @ PIXIL, THE MAN IN A DEBIAN CHANNEL |
| 22:50.26 | appaji | @ops dcom folooding |
| 22:50.26 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.26 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.27 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: dcom folooding |
| 22:50.27 | FieldySnuts | lilo: ping, flooding |
| 22:50.27 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.28 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.29 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.30 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.32 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.34 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.34 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.36 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.37 | lololo | LOL @ PIXIL, THE KID IN A DEBIAN CHANNEL |
| 22:50.37 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.38 | *** part/#debian JeffWilson12 (~Jf_wilson@client-216-176-66-107.consolidated.net) |
| 22:50.38 | FieldySnuts | jesus christ, 5 of us did ops already. forget it. |
| 22:50.38 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.39 | NeedVaseline | !ops $flooders@#debian |
| 22:50.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: $flooders@#debian |
| 22:50.40 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.40 | appaji | @ops popeye folooding |
| 22:50.41 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: popeye folooding |
| 22:50.42 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.42 | drac | wtf |
| 22:50.42 | lololo | LOL @ PIXIL, THE KID IN A DEBIAN CHANNEL |
| 22:50.42 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.44 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.44 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.46 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.46 | lololo | LOL @ PIXIL, THE KID IN A DEBIAN CHANNEL |
| 22:50.47 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.48 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.49 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.49 | lololo | LOL @ PIXIL, THE KID IN A DEBIAN CHANNEL |
| 22:50.50 | pixil9 | lol you retards. ubuntu s based off debian |
| 22:50.51 | pixil9 | hahahaha |
| 22:50.52 | cafuego | !ops ARRGH! PISPAM! |
| 22:50.53 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.56 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:50.56 | lololo | LOL @ PIXIL, THE KID IN A DEBIAN CHANNEL |
| 22:50.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: ARRGH! PISPAM! |
| 22:50.58 | *** join/#debian lameth (~lameth@213-156-52-106.fastres.net) |
| 22:50.59 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedora |
| 22:51.01 | lololo | LOL @ PIXIL, THE KID IN A DEBIAN CHANNEL |
| 22:51.05 | *** join/#debian Buddha| (~mike@adsl-214-114-163.gnv.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:51.06 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:51.06 | lololo | FAILURES |
| 22:51.06 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:51.07 | thelark- | HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.OR |
| 22:51.08 | FieldySnuts | @STFU LOLOLO |
| 22:51.08 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:51.08 | ravenbird | SHUT THE FUCK UP LOLOLO! |
| 22:51.09 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:51.12 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:51.12 | thelark- | HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.OR |
| 22:51.12 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE |
| 22:51.14 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:51.15 | spo0nman | !ops |
| 22:51.15 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 22:51.17 | AdrianLP | Can anyone recommend a nice looking FTP client that can do drag'n'drop? |
| 22:51.18 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:51.19 | spo0nman | !ops spam |
| 22:51.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: spam |
| 22:51.20 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:51.22 | thelark- | HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.OR |
| 22:51.24 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUG |
| 22:51.26 | *** part/#debian pixil9 (~pixil9@S01060006250d79e7.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 22:51.29 | popeye | S UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND B |
| 22:51.32 | Delph | look; they're not here. Spamming the channel with !ops isn't going to help. |
| 22:51.32 | *** join/#debian dcom (~dcom@cpc2-bror3-4-0-cust29.bmly.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:51.32 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.34 | popeye | UGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:51.35 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.37 | FieldySnuts | @ops wake the fuck up |
| 22:51.38 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: wake the fuck up |
| 22:51.38 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.39 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUG |
| 22:51.40 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.43 | fubar | wow |
| 22:51.43 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.44 | popeye | S UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND B |
| 22:51.44 | *** part/#debian bltzfsck (~bltzfsck@h-68-165-226-13.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 22:51.47 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.47 | dcom | ................................................................................ |
| 22:51.47 | thelark- | HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.OR |
| 22:51.48 | thelark- | HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.OR |
| 22:51.49 | dcom | ................................................................................ |
| 22:51.49 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.50 | FieldySnuts | this is the lamest I have ever seen this channel. |
| 22:51.50 | thelark- | HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.OR |
| 22:51.51 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.51 | popeye | UGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:51.51 | dcom | ................................................................................ |
| 22:51.53 | FieldySnuts | and it' snot even sunday |
| 22:51.53 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.53 | dcom | ................................................................................ |
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| 22:51.54 | r3v | AdrianLP: konqueror |
| 22:51.55 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.55 | dcom | ................................................................................ |
| 22:51.56 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUG |
| 22:51.57 | *** part/#debian Buddha| (~mike@adsl-214-114-163.gnv.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:51.57 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.57 | dcom | ................................................................................ |
| 22:51.58 | drac | !lol |
| 22:51.58 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:51.58 | dpkg | LOL stands for Laughs Out Loud, or (more commonly) Lamer On Line. If you insist on using this atrocity, try "/me lol" (preferably after /join #teenchat). "heh" or "haha" is greatly preferred. See also <loll>. |
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| 22:51.59 | dcom | ................................................................................ |
| 22:52.01 | popeye | S UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND B |
| 22:52.01 | dcom | ................................................................................ |
| 22:52.03 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:52.05 | popeye | UGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
| 22:52.07 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:52.08 | popeye | UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUG |
| 22:52.09 | lololo | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
| 22:52.13 | popeye | S UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS UBUNTU IS DEBIAN WITHOUT THE STUPID POLITICAL RED TAPE AND BUGS |
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| 22:52.17 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.17 | RUINBIRD | COMPLETE FAILURE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JEWS HIT WTC WITH PLANES AND BOMB JEWRUSALEM |
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| 22:52.18 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.18 | popeye | SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG vv |
| 22:52.19 | FieldySnuts | heh |
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| 22:52.20 | takatumi | yawn |
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| 22:52.22 | popeye | SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG vv |
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| 22:52.26 | popeye | SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG vv |
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| 22:52.30 | popeye | SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG vv |
| 22:52.32 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.34 | FieldySnuts | no ops, can't get oper attention either |
| 22:52.34 | popeye | SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG vv |
| 22:52.36 | RUINBIRD | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN. THANKS FOR SUCKING DICK, YOU SHITHEADS |
| 22:52.36 | FieldySnuts | lame |
| 22:52.37 | RUINBIRD | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN. THANKS FOR SUCKING DICK, YOU SHITHEADS |
| 22:52.39 | popeye | SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG SHUT UP DPKG |
| 22:52.39 | RUINBIRD | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN. THANKS FOR SUCKING DICK, YOU SHITHEADS |
| 22:52.41 | RUINBIRD | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN. THANKS FOR SUCKING DICK, YOU SHITHEADS |
| 22:52.41 | PerfDave | FieldySnuts: Nobody in #freenode? |
| 22:52.42 | dmc | oh yeah |
| 22:52.42 | RUINBIRD | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN. THANKS FOR SUCKING DICK, YOU SHITHEADS |
| 22:52.43 | spo0nman | ignore isnt working |
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| 22:52.44 | RUINBIRD | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN. THANKS FOR SUCKING DICK, YOU SHITHEADS |
| 22:52.45 | RUINBIRD | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN. THANKS FOR SUCKING DICK, YOU SHITHEADS |
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| 22:52.51 | FieldySnuts | PerfDave: it's fucking +m |
| 22:52.51 | EvanCarroll | spo0nman: download irssi |
| 22:52.52 | RUINBIRD | HELLO FROM GNAA |
| 22:52.55 | RUINBIRD | HELLO FROM GNAA |
| 22:52.55 | gsp | how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:52.57 | RUINBIRD | HELLO FROM GNAA |
| 22:52.59 | bltzfsck | anybody in here? |
| 22:53.00 | FieldySnuts | PerfDave: so basically we're fucked. |
| 22:53.00 | dcom | ; |
| 22:53.00 | dcom | ; |
| 22:53.02 | spo0nman | EvanCarroll, i like my xchat |
| 22:53.03 | thelark- | LOL |
| 22:53.04 | RUINBIRD | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.06 | popeye | GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGER |
| 22:53.07 | popeye | S GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGG |
| 22:53.07 | RUINBIRD | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.08 | popeye | ERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NI |
| 22:53.08 | r3v | gsp: /ignore their name |
| 22:53.08 | RUINBIRD | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.09 | EvanCarroll | spo0nman: try /squelch |
| 22:53.09 | RUINBIRD | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.13 | popeye | GGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS vv |
| 22:53.13 | WolfCub_1000 | Wtf? |
| 22:53.14 | popeye | GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGER |
| 22:53.16 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.17 | WolfCub_1000 | Screw off. |
| 22:53.17 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.19 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.20 | FieldySnuts | :x |
| 22:53.21 | popeye | S GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGG |
| 22:53.22 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.23 | PerfDave | FieldySnuts: Nah, the ops are probably on +z, so they see text which otherwise doesn't get to the channel. |
| 22:53.23 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.25 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.25 | Cyis | ok... three ignores down... who else wants one |
| 22:53.25 | FieldySnuts | eat shit gnaa |
| 22:53.26 | popeye | ERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS |
| 22:53.26 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.27 | FieldySnuts | eat shit gnaa |
| 22:53.28 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.29 | popeye | GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGER |
| 22:53.30 | spo0nman | EvanCarroll, unknown command |
| 22:53.31 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.33 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.34 | popeye | S GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGG |
| 22:53.35 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
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| 22:53.37 | COCKAMINE | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
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| 22:53.39 | popeye | ERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NI |
| 22:53.40 | FieldySnuts | fuck off gnaa |
| 22:53.41 | SIRELTONJOHN | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.42 | krotz | Is there a tcl 8.4 ? |
| 22:53.43 | SIRELTONJOHN | <gsp> how do I ignore the floods? |
| 22:53.44 | popeye | GGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS GAY NIGGERS GAY GAY GAY NIGGERS v |
| 22:53.45 | FieldySnuts | bleh |
| 22:53.48 | popeye | I have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" |
| 22:53.49 | thelark- | About GNAA: |
| 22:53.49 | thelark- | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. |
| 22:53.49 | thelark- | Are you GAY? |
| 22:53.49 | thelark- | Are you a NIGGER? |
| 22:53.49 | thelark- | Are you a GAY NIGGER? |
| 22:53.49 | dcom | Pi to one MILLION decimal places |
| 22:53.49 | Delph | this is fun =:) |
| 22:53.49 | *** kick/#debian [thelark-!~debhelper@debhelper.user] by debhelper (flood) |
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| 22:53.51 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:53.52 | anhi | wtf is this... |
| 22:53.52 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:53.53 | dcom | 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 |
| 22:53.53 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:53.53 | popeye | rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot o |
| 22:53.54 | thelark- | About GNAA: |
| 22:53.54 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:53.55 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.55 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:53.56 | thelark- | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. |
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| 22:53.56 | FieldySnuts | ARGH |
| 22:53.56 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:53.57 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.57 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:53.58 | popeye | f patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubu |
| 22:53.59 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.59 | thelark- | Are you GAY? |
| 22:54.01 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.01 | thelark- | Are you a NIGGER? |
| 22:54.01 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.03 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.03 | thelark- | Are you a GAY NIGGER? |
| 22:54.03 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.04 | popeye | ntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of |
| 22:54.05 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.05 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.06 | anhi | get those damn suckers out, NOW |
| 22:54.07 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.07 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
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| 22:54.08 | popeye | date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoravv |
| 22:54.09 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.09 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.11 | popeye | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. |
| 22:54.11 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.11 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.11 | JeffWilson12 | Oh come on. |
| 22:54.13 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.13 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.13 | drac | thelark- is humping SIRELTONJOHN ! I SAW IT ! GAYS. |
| 22:54.13 | popeye | Are you GAY? |
| 22:54.15 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.15 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
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| 22:54.17 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.17 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.17 | popeye | Are you a NIGGER? |
| 22:54.19 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.19 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.19 | dcom | ntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, o |
| 22:54.19 | popeye | Are you a GAY NIGGER? |
| 22:54.20 | thelark- | About GNAA: |
| 22:54.20 | thelark- | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. |
| 22:54.20 | thelark- | Are you GAY? |
| 22:54.20 | thelark- | Are you a NIGGER? |
| 22:54.20 | thelark- | Are you a GAY NIGGER? |
| 22:54.20 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.21 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.21 | JeffWilson12 | We're fucked aren't we? |
| 22:54.21 | *** kick/#debian [thelark-!~debhelper@debhelper.user] by debhelper (flood) |
| 22:54.21 | spo0nman | ok lets move to debian-flood |
| 22:54.21 | popeye | If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! |
| 22:54.22 | *** join/#debian thelark- (~x@64.252.189.54) |
| 22:54.22 | *** part/#debian McPolo (~ville@a80-186-46-58.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 22:54.23 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.23 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.24 | popeye | Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member. |
| 22:54.24 | *** join/#debian E-bola (~bola@port1630.ds1-vbr.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 22:54.25 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.25 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.27 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.27 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.27 | popeye | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today! |
| 22:54.27 | Phated | Ih, FFS. |
| 22:54.29 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.29 | Phated | !ops |
| 22:54.29 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 22:54.29 | Delph | drac: comments like that are hopefully going to get you banned. |
| 22:54.30 | popeye | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. |
| 22:54.30 | thelark- | If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! |
| 22:54.30 | thelark- | Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member. |
| 22:54.30 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.31 | SIRELTONJOHN | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.32 | thelark- | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today! |
| 22:54.33 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.33 | popeye | Are you GAY? |
| 22:54.33 | EvanCarroll | !ops flooders |
| 22:54.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: flooders |
| 22:54.34 | Phated | !ops spammer. |
| 22:54.35 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.35 | LIVERJEWL | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.35 | FieldySnuts | JeffWilson12: yep, can't get any ops attention or any oper |
| 22:54.35 | popeye | Are you a NIGGER? |
| 22:54.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: spammer. |
| 22:54.36 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.37 | thelark- | If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! |
| 22:54.37 | popeye | Are you a GAY NIGGER? |
| 22:54.38 | amorphix | damn |
| 22:54.38 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.39 | LIVERJEWL | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.39 | popeye | If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! |
| 22:54.40 | thelark- | Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member. |
| 22:54.41 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.41 | LIVERJEWL | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.41 | PerfDave | Ooh, cafuego's in #freenode with voice. |
| 22:54.42 | popeye | Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member. |
| 22:54.42 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.43 | thelark- | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today! |
| 22:54.43 | LIVERJEWL | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.43 | FieldySnuts | @ops WAKE THE FUCK UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP |
| 22:54.44 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: WAKE THE FUCK UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP |
| 22:54.45 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.45 | LIVERJEWL | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.46 | thelark- | If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! |
| 22:54.46 | Deshi | wtf |
| 22:54.48 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.48 | LIVERJEWL | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.48 | popeye | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today! |
| 22:54.49 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.49 | thelark- | Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member. |
| 22:54.49 | LIVERJEWL | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.50 | popeye | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. |
| 22:54.50 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.51 | LIVERJEWL | <FieldySnuts> fuck off gnaa |
| 22:54.52 | thelark- | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today! |
| 22:54.52 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.53 | popeye | Are you GAY? |
| 22:54.54 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.55 | thelark- | If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! |
| 22:54.56 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.57 | WolfCub_1000 | Where are the moderators??!!?!?!? |
| 22:54.57 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you a NIGGER? |
| 22:54.58 | cog_ | dpkg ops flooders. |
| 22:54.58 | thelark- | Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member. |
| 22:54.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: flooders. |
| 22:54.59 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.59 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you a GAY NIGGER? |
| 22:55.00 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.01 | thelark- | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today! |
| 22:55.01 | DEBIAN_SUX | If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! |
| 22:55.03 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.03 | LIVERJEWL | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.06 | LIVERJEWL | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.06 | DEBIAN_SUX | Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member. |
| 22:55.06 | shining | !clean |
| 22:55.06 | dpkg | somebody said clean was a programming language and is at http://www.cs.kun.nl/~clean |
| 22:55.06 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.08 | LIVERJEWL | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.08 | drac | Delph: Err, didn't mean it like that. Was living in the moment for a second. Apologies. |
| 22:55.09 | DEBIAN_SUX | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today! |
| 22:55.09 | LIVERJEWL | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.09 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.10 | LIVERJEWL | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.11 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.12 | DEBIAN_SUX | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. |
| 22:55.12 | LIVERJEWL | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.13 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.13 | LIVERJEWL | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.13 | thelark- | * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * |
| 22:55.13 | thelark- | g g |
| 22:55.14 | thelark- | o / \ \ / \ o |
| 22:55.14 | thelark- | a| | \ | | a |
| 22:55.14 | *** join/#debian bltzfsck (~bltzfsck@h-68-165-226-13.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 22:55.14 | LIVERJEWL | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.15 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you GAY? |
| 22:55.15 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.16 | Delph | drac: whatever. |
| 22:55.17 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.17 | LIVERJEWL | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.19 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you a NIGGER? |
| 22:55.19 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.21 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you a GAY NIGGER? |
| 22:55.21 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.23 | DEBIAN_SUX | If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! |
| 22:55.23 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.25 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.25 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.26 | DEBIAN_SUX | Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member. |
| 22:55.26 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.27 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.28 | sonimt | hm. |
| 22:55.29 | DEBIAN_SUX | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today! |
| 22:55.29 | FieldySnuts | potable water haha |
| 22:55.29 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.29 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.30 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.30 | FieldySnuts | what the hell |
| 22:55.31 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.32 | DEBIAN_SUX | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. |
| 22:55.33 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.34 | *** part/#debian bltzfsck (~bltzfsck@h-68-165-226-13.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 22:55.35 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you GAY? |
| 22:55.35 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.36 | JeffWilson12 | Finally. |
| 22:55.37 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you a NIGGER? |
| 22:55.37 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.39 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.39 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you a GAY NIGGER? |
| 22:55.39 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.40 | bourne_again | wtf is this? |
| 22:55.40 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.40 | JeffWilson12 | Just /ignore them all. |
| 22:55.41 | DEBIAN_SUX | If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! |
| 22:55.41 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.41 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.43 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.43 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.44 | DEBIAN_SUX | Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member. |
| 22:55.45 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.45 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.45 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
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| 22:55.47 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.47 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.48 | AdrianLP | bourne_again: What does it look like. |
| 22:55.48 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.48 | krotz | FUCKING SHUT UP |
| 22:55.49 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.49 | krotz | FUCKING SHUT UP |
| 22:55.49 | E-bola | why on earth arent there any bots here |
| 22:55.50 | *** kick/#debian [krotz!~debhelper@debhelper.user] by debhelper (flood) |
| 22:55.51 | JeffWilson12 | Now it's quiet. |
| 22:55.51 | DEBIAN_SUX | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today! |
| 22:55.52 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHAREN AFRICA (OR #DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM? |
| 22:55.52 | Phated | !ops dcom, DEBIAN_SUX, LOLCAUST spamming. |
| 22:55.52 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: dcom, DEBIAN_SUX, LOLCAUST spamming. |
| 22:55.53 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.54 | thelark- | ########################a################################################# |
| 22:55.54 | DEBIAN_SUX | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. |
| 22:55.54 | thelark- | ##############################a########################################### |
| 22:55.55 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.55 | Cyis | I have three wildcard userhosts |
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| 22:55.56 | thelark- | #####################################a#################################### |
| 22:55.57 | thelark- | ################################################a######################### |
| 22:55.57 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you GAY? |
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| 22:55.59 | incog | lol |
| 22:55.59 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you a NIGGER? |
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| 22:56.00 | drini_ | done, /ignore LOLCAUST |
| 22:56.01 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you a GAY NIGGER? |
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| 22:56.03 | DEBIAN_SUX | If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! |
| 22:56.03 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.04 | Phated | Oh, FFS. |
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| 22:56.05 | LOLCAUST | <krotz> FUCKING SHUT UP |
| 22:56.05 | DEBIAN_SUX | Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member. |
| 22:56.06 | LOLCAUST | <krotz> FUCKING SHUT UP |
| 22:56.07 | incog | fags |
| 22:56.07 | cafuego | bob2 would be awake if he wasn;'t at !&*!%$*& LCA. |
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| 22:56.09 | DEBIAN_SUX | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today! |
| 22:56.09 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.10 | thelark- | ########################################################################## |
| 22:56.11 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:56.11 | LOLCAUST | <krotz> FUCKING SHUT UP |
| 22:56.12 | DEBIAN_SUX | GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. |
| 22:56.13 | LOLCAUST | <krotz> FUCKING SHUT UP |
| 22:56.13 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.13 | LOLCAUST | <krotz> FUCKING SHUT UP |
| 22:56.15 | DEBIAN_SUX | Are you GAY? |
| 22:56.17 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.18 | LOLCAUST | <krotz> FUCKING SHUT UP |
| 22:56.18 | LOLCAUST | <krotz> FUCKING SHUT UP |
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| 22:58.01 | bltzfsck | hello |
| 22:58.02 | cafuego | Hydroxide: thanks mate |
| 22:58.05 | krotz | Finally! |
| 22:58.05 | bltzfsck | wow |
| 22:58.09 | PerfDave | Cheers, Hydroxide |
| 22:58.09 | amorphix | what an idiot |
| 22:58.11 | shining | it was fun |
| 22:58.11 | krotz | Thank you Hydroxide |
| 22:58.12 | JeffWilson12 | What a god damn mess. |
| 22:58.12 | E-bola | weird |
| 22:58.13 | FieldySnuts | thanks |
| 22:58.14 | gsp | ok... what the hell was that? |
| 22:58.17 | Phated | Hydroxide: Cheers, mate. |
| 22:58.19 | Hydroxide | sorry it took me a while, I don't have that as automated as some of the other ops |
| 22:58.22 | JeffWilson12 | Yeah thanks a lot Hydroxide. =) |
| 22:58.25 | aardvark | kawfee must be feeling lonely again. |
| 22:58.28 | drini_ | :) |
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| 22:58.30 | FieldySnuts | cafuego: no shit... |
| 22:58.30 | emag | when will lethal injection over ip be widespread? |
| 22:58.32 | streuner | thanks very much Hydroxide |
| 22:58.33 | resiak | Hydroxide: Can I have your children? |
| 22:58.36 | PerfDave | gsp: Somebody with a botnet making a dick of themselves. |
| 22:58.41 | gsp | gotcha |
| 22:58.43 | FieldySnuts | gnaa morons |
| 22:58.44 | Hydroxide | resiak: eek ;P |
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| 22:58.50 | Phated | resiak: I think I'm more suited to having of children. |
| 22:58.55 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 22:58.56 | amorphix | anyone who attacks a linux dist like that has to be pretty sad |
| 22:58.56 | cog_ | now _I_ want a botnet. |
| 22:58.57 | resiak | Hydroxide: I want to lock them in a cupboard *ducks* |
| 22:58.59 | JeffWilson12 | FieldySnuts: GNAA?.. |
| 22:59.05 | spo0nman | :) |
| 22:59.05 | gsp | so... my X doesn't wanna work... even though I followed the dpkg nvidia one-liner to a T |
| 22:59.06 | incog | GNAA? |
| 22:59.07 | E-bola | Ile throw out the first question then |
| 22:59.08 | dcom | ntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, out of date "distro" rather than moving to proven solutions like ubuntu and fedoraI have to hand it to you guys, you have a lot of patience to stick with such a shitty, o |
| 22:59.10 | FieldySnuts | JeffWilson12: yeah. hang out on freenode long enough and you run into them... |
| 22:59.11 | Phated | Oh, come on, you can't have noticed what GNAA is. |
| 22:59.11 | thelark- | ARE YOU GAY? |
| 22:59.13 | PerfDave | !gnaa |
| 22:59.13 | thelark- | ARE YOU A NIGGER? |
| 22:59.15 | dcom | Pi to one MILLION decimal places |
| 22:59.16 | resiak | Hydroxide: Here we go. |
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| 22:59.16 | dcom | 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 |
| 22:59.18 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.18 | thelark- | ARE YOU A GAY NIGGER? |
| 22:59.19 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.19 | FieldySnuts | Hydroxide: help |
| 22:59.20 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.20 | Phated | Oi, Hydroxide. |
| 22:59.21 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.21 | cafuego | Oh ffs. |
| 22:59.21 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.22 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.22 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.23 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.23 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.24 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.25 | Astinus | Argh |
| 22:59.25 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.25 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.25 | amorphix | here we go |
| 22:59.27 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.27 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.29 | Astinus | fucking wankers, just shut up |
| 22:59.29 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.30 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.30 | incog | what? |
| 22:59.31 | JeffWilson12 | FieldySnuts: what does GNAA stand for? |
| 22:59.31 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.31 | E-bola | ban the idiots |
| 22:59.32 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.33 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.33 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.34 | E-bola | what a kiddy |
| 22:59.35 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.35 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.35 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.36 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.37 | FieldySnuts | JeffWilson12: hell if i know |
| 22:59.37 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.38 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.39 | dcom | Pi to one MILLION decimal places |
| 22:59.40 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.41 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.42 | Phated | Heh, yuo |
| 22:59.43 | dcom | 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 |
| 22:59.43 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.44 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.45 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.46 | resiak | JeffWilson12: Gay Nigger Association of America |
| 22:59.47 | dcom | www.gnaa.us |
| 22:59.47 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.47 | LOLCAUST | HELLO SUBSAHARAN AFRICA! (KNOWN AS DEBIAN) ARE YOU READY FOR POTABLE WATER AND A USEABLE OPERATING SYSTEM, NIGGERS? |
| 22:59.49 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.49 | PerfDave | Gay Nigger Association of America, apparently. |
| 22:59.50 | LOLCAUST | GNAA = GAY NIGGER ASSOSIACION OF AMERICA |
| 22:59.50 | staniel | +m! |
| 22:59.51 | dcom | www.gnaa.us |
| 22:59.52 | LOLCAUST | GNAA = GAY NIGGER ASSOSIACION OF AMERICA |
| 22:59.53 | dcom | www.gnaa.us |
| 22:59.53 | sparr_ | anyone here play scourge? |
| 22:59.54 | LOLCAUST | GNAA = GAY NIGGER ASSOSIACION OF AMERICA |
| 22:59.55 | dcom | www.gnaa.us |
| 22:59.56 | JeffWilson12 | :-/ |
| 22:59.56 | LOLCAUST | GNAA = GAY NIGGER ASSOSIACION OF AMERICA |
| 22:59.57 | *** part/#debian bourne_again (bourne@pool-68-237-47-185.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:59.57 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.58 | LOLCAUST | GNAA = GAY NIGGER ASSOSIACION OF AMERICA |
| 22:59.59 | dcom | www.gnaa.us |
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| 23:00.00 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
| 23:00.01 | dcom | www.gnaa.us |
| 23:00.03 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.03 | FieldySnuts | seeing PerfDave say "gay" and "nigger" is really weird |
| 23:00.04 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
| 23:00.05 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.06 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
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| 23:00.07 | FieldySnuts | then again, i just said it |
| 23:00.07 | dcom | www.gnaa.us |
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| 23:00.08 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
| 23:00.09 | Phated | Heh. |
| 23:00.09 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:00.10 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
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| 23:00.11 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:00.12 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
| 23:00.13 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.14 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
| 23:00.15 | dcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.16 | resiak | Damnit, where did Hydroxide go? |
| 23:00.16 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
| 23:00.16 | PerfDave | FieldySnuts: Is it 'coz I is black? |
| 23:00.17 | Delph | aarrgh! you said it! I said it! |
| 23:00.17 | dcom | irc.gnaa.us |
| 23:00.18 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
| 23:00.18 | bourne_again | Some people are just idiots. |
| 23:00.19 | dcom | irc.gnaa.us |
| 23:00.20 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
| 23:00.21 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.21 | dcom | irc.gnaa.us |
| 23:00.22 | LOLCAUST | WELCOME TO FAILURE, #DEBIAN |
| 23:00.22 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.23 | dcom | irc.gnaa.us |
| 23:00.23 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*eifersuch@*.satxpress.net] by Hydroxide |
| 23:00.23 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.25 | dcom | irc.gnaa.us |
| 23:00.25 | FieldySnuts | PerfDave: heh i'm not touchin that one |
| 23:00.25 | drac | /mode #debian +b *!*@*.satxpress.net |
| 23:00.26 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.27 | *** kick/#debian [LOLCAUST!user@Hydroxide.developer.debian] by Hydroxide (Hydroxide) |
| 23:00.27 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.27 | dcom | irc.gnaa.us |
| 23:00.29 | dcom | irc.gnaa.us |
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| 23:00.30 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*dcom@*.bmly.cable.ntl.com] by Hydroxide |
| 23:00.32 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.32 | *** kick/#debian [dcom!user@Hydroxide.developer.debian] by Hydroxide (Hydroxide) |
| 23:00.33 | sparr_ | thanks Hydroxide! |
| 23:00.34 | RootsLINUX | Thank you |
| 23:00.35 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.38 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.38 | FieldySnuts | go Hydroxide ! |
| 23:00.40 | NeedVaseline | ffs ban them |
| 23:00.40 | bltzfsck | it's like listening to a jammed radio |
| 23:00.41 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.43 | to_ | gogogo |
| 23:00.43 | Astinus | Damnit |
| 23:00.44 | thelark- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.46 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*x@64.252.189.*] by Hydroxide |
| 23:00.46 | Phated | Eh, we got incoming notices. |
| 23:00.50 | PerfDave | incog to go |
| 23:00.53 | cafuego | Kawfee: get a life |
| 23:00.54 | drini_ | yeah, from incog |
| 23:00.56 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*incog@*.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] by Hydroxide |
| 23:00.58 | dieguito | omg |
| 23:01.01 | bourne_again | WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? |
| 23:01.04 | dieguito | being attacked |
| 23:01.07 | bourne_again | We dont come into your room and pull this crap |
| 23:01.07 | RootsLINUX | Morons with no life |
| 23:01.08 | spo0nman | Hydroxide, you might want to give op to more people |
| 23:01.09 | JeffWilson12 | Why is Freenode configured so poorly? |
| 23:01.11 | FieldySnuts | these kids definately were not breast fed. |
| 23:01.14 | JeffWilson12 | THe server should watch for floods! |
| 23:01.17 | cafuego | bourne_again: Sad little person, obsessed with a user here, needs attention. |
| 23:01.28 | paulswm | Phew |
| 23:01.29 | gsp | so... my X doesn't wanna work... even though I followed the dpkg nvidia one-liner to a T |
| 23:01.31 | Cyis | someone must of lost there wanking partner and now have nothing better to do |
| 23:01.35 | Phated | Or me to kill someone. |
| 23:01.35 | resiak | !doesn't work |
| 23:01.36 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 23:01.36 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 23:01.36 | sparr_ | JeffWilson12: one line every 3 seocnds isnt really a flood |
| 23:01.38 | AdrianLP | cafuego: Heh, and is getting it. |
| 23:01.40 | *** part/#debian dato (~adeodato@84-120-77-228.onocable.ono.com) |
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| 23:01.41 | EvanCarroll | wow.. on the flip side, i'm impressed there really is a gnaa.us |
| 23:01.42 | ElessarTelcontar | Attaching spammers to a distro is like attaching terrorists to Islam. |
| 23:01.44 | FieldySnuts | @lart GNAA |
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| 23:01.44 | Hydroxide | if this keeps up I'm going to set +m again, which sucks for everyone else of course |
| 23:01.47 | PerfDave | cafuego: Hey, I'm stalking Phated, and I don't think that flooding channels is a good way to deal with it ;) |
| 23:01.49 | cafuego | AdrianLP: /ignore works fine |
| 23:01.55 | Phated | PerfDave: OY! |
| 23:01.59 | FieldySnuts | Hydroxide: it's okay we understand, i mean what else can you do.. |
| 23:02.03 | Cyis | gsp: see if mh_le has a log of my transcript with him... just help'd him with the same problem |
| 23:02.08 | Hydroxide | FieldySnuts: *nod* |
| 23:02.11 | paulswm | Who suggested lethal injection over IP, we need to start up a project to develop that |
| 23:02.15 | PerfDave | Phated: Whoops, wasn't supposed to say that in channel ;) |
| 23:02.17 | AdrianLP | cafuego: Actually it doesn't. Or, that is to say, he circumvented it many times over. |
| 23:02.21 | Phated | PerfDave: OYYY! |
| 23:02.21 | bourne_again | lol gnaa.us is kinda funny |
| 23:02.25 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 23:02.28 | resiak | paulswm: SPITFF/IP |
| 23:02.28 | cafuego | PerfDave: Not to ruin your fanatsy, but I'm not 100% sure phated is a gay nigger ;-) |
| 23:02.33 | Phated | OY! |
| 23:02.40 | FieldySnuts | what the hell |
| 23:02.41 | PerfDave | cafuego: She isn't? Damn! I shall give up then. |
| 23:02.43 | spo0nman | where is lilo now? |
| 23:02.46 | Phated | OY! |
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| 23:02.59 | PerfDave | Phated: Ow! |
| 23:02.59 | cafuego | spo0nman: Lurking in the MBR |
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| 23:03.00 | drac | spo0nman: in your master boot record. |
| 23:03.00 | gsp | Cyis it is saying that hte driver isn't there, even though I downloaded the nvidia_glx package... |
| 23:03.02 | *** part/#debian bltzfsck (~bltzfsck@h-68-165-226-13.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 23:03.02 | drac | ;p |
| 23:03.05 | bourne_again | check the http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml disclaimer, it says theyre a trolling organization |
| 23:03.07 | FieldySnuts | yes |
| 23:03.08 | FieldySnuts | no |
| 23:03.09 | FieldySnuts | hi |
| 23:03.10 | gsp | do I need to run that somehow? |
| 23:03.10 | *** part/#debian r3v (jmahler@12-210-200-250.client.insightBB.com) |
| 23:03.10 | Phated | PerfDave: :P |
| 23:03.13 | PerfDave | Phated: Why are you stabbing me for not stalking you? |
| 23:03.13 | *** part/#debian incog (incog@host81-152-18-65.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:03.17 | foox | Hydroxide: you could always get someone to put up a bot with anti-flood or something :) |
| 23:03.18 | spo0nman | cafuego, you know what i mean. |
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| 23:03.22 | FieldySnuts | @fuck incog |
| 23:03.25 | resiak | directhex: You missed it. |
| 23:03.28 | Phated | PerfDave: Actually, it was a belated stab for stalking me. |
| 23:03.36 | PerfDave | I had a cunning plan for a distributed /ignore thing, but I never got round to writing it. |
| 23:03.45 | cog_ | bring back the spam this affection is killing me. |
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| 23:03.50 | krotz | Is there tcl 8.4 ? |
| 23:03.56 | Phated | There. |
| 23:03.57 | spo0nman | why did my /ignore's didnt work? |
| 23:03.59 | resiak | !info tcl84 |
| 23:03.59 | PerfDave | Anyway, kids, I'm off to bed. Night. |
| 23:04.03 | resiak | Night PerfDave. |
| 23:04.04 | Phated | Very unaffectionate stab, mind. |
| 23:04.07 | cafuego | spo0nman: Bad ignored? |
| 23:04.09 | petemc | foox: debhelper is a bot that kicks after 4 lines |
| 23:04.10 | Phated | Tata PerfDave. |
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| 23:04.15 | Cyis | gsp: after you install nvidia-glx you need to build the nvidia-kernel module for the kernel you're running |
| 23:04.16 | krotz | resiak: Only thing I find is 8.3 with apt-cache search |
| 23:04.18 | jetx | why did my didn'ts |
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| 23:04.19 | Phated | With a time limit. |
| 23:04.20 | spo0nman | cafuego, bad ignored? |
| 23:04.28 | NeedVaseline | !fuck incog |
| 23:04.31 | resiak | krotz: *shrug* |
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| 23:04.40 | NeedVaseline | I love you dpkg |
| 23:04.47 | Cyis | gsp: both nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel module need to be the same version or you'll get version mismatch errors |
| 23:04.49 | appaji | dpkg, love NeedVaseline |
| 23:04.50 | spo0nman | cafuego, i tried with username and host both... it didnt work |
| 23:04.51 | Phated | What's incog doing now, individual notices? Hah. |
| 23:04.53 | gnufan | spo0nman, Xchat in debian - my ignore didn't work if typed, but fine from the GUI, I'm becoming a windows user slowly :( |
| 23:05.01 | kerframil_ | Cyis: except that nvidia-glx depends on nvidia-kernel anyway (still, there's always the opportunity for a mismatch - I realise that) |
| 23:05.05 | FieldySnuts | oh thats just wrong |
| 23:05.15 | spo0nman | gnufan, X-( |
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| 23:05.20 | *** mode/#debian [-o Hydroxide] by Hydroxide |
| 23:05.23 | Phated | Hear hear. |
| 23:05.29 | Phated | Noooo Hydroxide! |
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| 23:05.41 | JeffWilson12 | if I install apache-perl, there is no need to install the apache package if I understand correctly? apache-perl is the same pkg with perl built in? |
| 23:05.47 | krotz | resiak: How would I get a new list, or the source for 8.4 ? |
| 23:05.59 | resiak | krotz: The Tcl website? |
| 23:05.59 | Hydroxide | Phated: always reversible if need be. I can't watch IRC for very much longer at the moment |
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| 23:06.14 | Phated | Hydroxide: Ah, all right, can't expect you to babysit us anyway. Thanks. :) |
| 23:06.23 | Hydroxide | np |
| 23:06.48 | NeedVaseline | dpkg, love Hydroxide |
| 23:06.49 | directhex | resiak, ? |
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| 23:07.01 | resiak | directhex: SPAMBOTS! |
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| 23:07.06 | NeedVaseline | Want some vaseline Hydroxide? |
| 23:07.07 | gnufan | JeffWilson12, looks like apache-perl does provide http itself |
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| 23:07.51 | JeffWilson12 | gnufan: ah..thanks :) |
| 23:07.52 | Cyis | kerframil_: so you install nvidia-kernel-source and build the module... install it then upgrade nvidia-glx |
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| 23:07.57 | FieldySnuts | mwOlson? |
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| 23:08.10 | rj__ | Hi, I just installed sarge, and at the time my network card was not properly seated, and therefor not detected during install, during the configuration of apt, i was forced to add the cdrom to /etc/apt/sources.list, if anyone can post there internet-enabled version, i would appreciate it. |
| 23:08.13 | Phated | Is he around, then? |
| 23:08.33 | E-bola | how do i make debian remember the ip address i config with ifconfig? |
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| 23:08.34 | krotz | resiak: I mean so I can install it with apt-get, is there a some kind of command to dl new source list? |
| 23:08.39 | resiak | krotz: apt-get update |
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| 23:08.46 | krotz | ok |
| 23:08.46 | krotz | thx |
| 23:08.57 | FieldySnuts | heh asl? |
| 23:08.58 | FieldySnuts | kidding |
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| 23:09.11 | NeedVaseline | krotz: remember to do this often apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 23:09.12 | resiak | !info tcl8.4 sarge |
| 23:09.14 | kerframil_ | Cyis: sorry I commented in completely the wrong channel! couldn't say for debian (I used the nvidia provided installer the last time I tried it in Debian on account of the packages being not sufficiently new enough) |
| 23:09.19 | FieldySnuts | Phated: :D |
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| 23:09.26 | dpkg | tcl8.4: (Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-time files), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 8.4.9-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 1089 kB, Installed size: 3132 kB |
| 23:09.33 | JeffWilson12 | any good docs on setting up tun? On my newly installed debian system, tun doesn't appear to be working |
| 23:09.35 | Phated | FieldySnuts: OMG CYBARR!!!111one |
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| 23:09.40 | FieldySnuts | er? |
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| 23:09.45 | aardvark | Girl_Sexy must be a time-delayed spambot. |
| 23:09.47 | krotz | NeedVaseline: Ah thx, but after a apt-get update, I still can't find the new package. |
| 23:09.50 | appaji | JeffWilson12: what doesn't work? |
| 23:09.51 | sinned | is there something like filemon for linux that i can see what files are being accessed by what programs and when? |
| 23:09.59 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Sowwy. |
| 23:10.03 | JeffWilson12 | appaji: tap/tun |
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| 23:10.10 | appaji | JeffWilson12: what about it doesn't work? |
| 23:10.19 | FieldySnuts | Phated: hehe na it's funny |
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| 23:10.26 | Phated | FieldySnuts: :) |
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| 23:10.39 | krotz | NeedVaseline: That is tcl8.4 ..can I somehow dl a .deb package and install ? |
| 23:10.42 | JeffWilson12 | appaji: When I run qemu, it tels me '/dev/net/tun: cannot open network interface' ... and when I run qemu as root, it can open it, but can't use it. qemu sees no internet. |
| 23:10.52 | krotz | NeedVaseline: How does that work, when you've got a .deb pack? I'm new to debian |
| 23:11.02 | NeedVaseline | krotz: apt-cache search tcl |
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| 23:11.15 | krotz | Yeah NeedVaseline, it ain't there. |
| 23:11.20 | krotz | tcl8.4 ain't there. |
| 23:11.35 | NeedVaseline | krotz: Ok, apt-get update will update your deb list |
| 23:11.44 | krotz | NeedVaseline: Yuh, I did that. |
| 23:11.44 | Cyis | kerframil_: no prob... I guess I've gotten lazy in my old age and only install software if it is packaged... if not packaged I package it :) |
| 23:11.46 | krotz | Still ain't there |
| 23:11.48 | NeedVaseline | And apt-get upgrade will update all the programs you have installed |
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| 23:12.04 | JeffWilson12 | NeedVaseline: no. |
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| 23:12.14 | NeedVaseline | Ok, then what JeffWilson12? |
| 23:12.20 | WolfCub_1000 | Ok I found out that my tv card needed the dvb-ttpc driver, so I modprobed it, now how can I check if tv is working? what is a common tv frequency to scan? |
| 23:12.21 | JeffWilson12 | apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade will though. |
| 23:12.22 | FieldySnuts | @lart Girl_Sexy |
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| 23:12.28 | paulswm | heh |
| 23:12.33 | valdyn | NeedVaseline: man apt-get |
| 23:12.38 | WolfCub_1000 | See my post at http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=3489 for further details. |
| 23:12.39 | NeedVaseline | ravenbird: killall -9 ;) |
| 23:12.39 | ravenbird | NeedVaseline: no idea |
| 23:12.50 | NeedVaseline | Anyhow, krotz |
| 23:12.53 | NeedVaseline | I will look for that pkg |
| 23:13.01 | krotz | k thanks, I can't find it anywhere. |
| 23:13.07 | krotz | :> |
| 23:13.55 | paulswm | !nickometer NeedVaseline |
| 23:13.56 | dpkg | 'NeedVaseline' is 0.000% lame, paulswm |
| 23:14.00 | FieldySnuts | lies |
| 23:14.03 | NeedVaseline | tcl8.2 - The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.2 - Run-Time Files. |
| 23:14.03 | NeedVaseline | tcl8.2-dev - The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.2 - Development Files. |
| 23:14.05 | paulswm | You are kidding me, dpkg |
| 23:14.07 | FieldySnuts | stop it |
| 23:14.20 | krotz | That's 8.2 NeedVaseline |
| 23:14.22 | krotz | I need 8.4 |
| 23:14.25 | NeedVaseline | Why ? |
| 23:14.32 | krotz | A thing I'm using needs it |
| 23:14.37 | FieldySnuts | :/ LoRez |
| 23:14.38 | lef | erm...sarge has gnome as the default, how can I switch to KDE? |
| 23:14.46 | krotz | !nickometer krotz |
| 23:14.49 | NeedVaseline | Cyberia:~# apt-cache search tcl |grep 8.4 |
| 23:14.49 | NeedVaseline | tcl8.4 - Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-time files |
| 23:14.49 | NeedVaseline | tcl8.4-dev - Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - development files |
| 23:14.49 | NeedVaseline | tcl8.4-doc - Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - manual pages |
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| 23:14.51 | JeffWilson12 | Qemu is flunking out here...when using tun0. something isn't working with tun. |
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| 23:14.57 | NeedVaseline | ¬¬ |
| 23:14.57 | WolfCub_1000 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.01 | JeffWilson12 | Ooo burn! |
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| 23:15.15 | krotz | NeedVaseline: I didn't find that |
| 23:15.15 | NeedVaseline | krotz: apt-cache search tcl | grep 8.4 |
| 23:15.29 | krotz | Nothing.. |
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| 23:15.31 | gass | hello |
| 23:15.36 | krotz | I get no result. |
| 23:15.38 | FieldySnuts | hi |
| 23:15.42 | NeedVaseline | krotz: woody ? |
| 23:15.50 | gass | my tomcat server just stops after some seconds up ... |
| 23:15.53 | JeffWilson12 | anyone here successfully configured TAP/TUN? |
| 23:15.55 | lef | WolfCub_100: I already have kdebase installed |
| 23:15.57 | krotz | NeedVaseline: Hmm, woody is? |
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| 23:16.00 | johnga1t | is there a one-liner that will tell me the total size of the contents in a folder? |
| 23:16.04 | WolfCub_1000 | Then install kdm. |
| 23:16.05 | FieldySnuts | du -sh |
| 23:16.06 | NeedVaseline | krotz: stable |
| 23:16.14 | bourne_again | Do you guys think it will be another 2 years after sarge comes out for the next major release after it? |
| 23:16.16 | WolfCub_1000 | Lef: KDE will show up in kdm. |
| 23:16.20 | CyL | the first parallel port in someone's box would be /dev/tty0 ? |
| 23:16.24 | FieldySnuts | lp0 |
| 23:16.26 | gass | tomcat's starts like this |
| 23:16.27 | gass | Catalina.start: LifecycleException: No UserDatabase component found under key UserDatabase |
| 23:16.27 | gass | LifecycleException: No UserDatabase component found under key UserDatabase |
| 23:16.29 | krotz | NeedVaseline: YEah I mean, what is it? |
| 23:16.30 | FieldySnuts | tty's are serial |
| 23:16.31 | gass | can you help me? |
| 23:16.32 | paulswm | @troll bourne_again |
| 23:16.38 | lef | WolfCub_1000: I don't want to start my sessions with a graphical login, I prefer getting into console nad start via startx |
| 23:16.39 | krotz | NeedVaseline: I'm new to debian. |
| 23:16.40 | FieldySnuts | @wax paulswm |
| 23:16.46 | CyL | FieldySnuts<=- so would be /dev/lp0? |
| 23:16.48 | FieldySnuts | nvermind |
| 23:16.52 | bourne_again | what are you talking about . . . |
| 23:16.52 | paulswm | WAX??? |
| 23:16.56 | bourne_again | i'm just asking |
| 23:16.59 | FieldySnuts | @lart bourne_again |
| 23:17.04 | WolfCub_1000 | Lef: you need to edit some file, sorry I forget which one. |
| 23:17.12 | NeedVaseline | krotz: cat /etc/apt/source.list | grep stable |
| 23:17.13 | bourne_again | I was just asking a question . . . |
| 23:17.16 | NeedVaseline | Paste me results |
| 23:17.32 | dondelelcaro | bourne_again: probably not. |
| 23:17.32 | valdyn | lef: apt-get remove gdm xdm kdm |
| 23:17.34 | lef | I thought I can swicth between gnome and kde using the menu |
| 23:17.39 | krotz | NeedVaseline: cat: /etc/apt/source.list: No such file or directory |
| 23:17.47 | bourne_again | dondelecaro: thank you for a reasonable answer |
| 23:17.48 | lef | valdyn: yes I already have done this :-) |
| 23:17.48 | shining | sources |
| 23:17.49 | gass | i have this error in tomcat server ... can anyone help me? |
| 23:17.50 | gass | Catalina.start: LifecycleException: No UserDatabase component found under key UserDatabase |
| 23:17.50 | gass | LifecycleException: No UserDatabase component found under key UserDatabase |
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| 23:17.56 | NeedVaseline | err |
| 23:17.57 | krotz | etc sources ? |
| 23:17.57 | FieldySnuts | gass: please stop pasting that, we saw it once |
| 23:17.58 | NeedVaseline | Mistake ;) |
| 23:18.00 | krotz | yup :) |
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| 23:18.03 | NeedVaseline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.04 | valdyn | lef: you can switch using gdm |
| 23:18.08 | lef | valdyn: I am just trying o figure out how I can switch from gnome to kde |
| 23:18.14 | gass | FieldySnuts: sorry ... ok |
| 23:18.22 | paulswm | bourne_again: Hopefully, debian will see the value of time based releases |
| 23:18.30 | lef | valdyn: I do not have gdm, nor I want to bbot into graphical mode :) |
| 23:18.30 | krotz | I found deb & deb-src NeedVaseline |
| 23:18.37 | dondelelcaro | paulswm: Debian will never do time based releases. |
| 23:18.44 | FieldySnuts | amen |
| 23:18.46 | dondelelcaro | time based releases are fundamentally broken. |
| 23:18.48 | NeedVaseline | Good |
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| 23:18.54 | NeedVaseline | Can you paste 1 of those lines, please ? |
| 23:18.55 | paulswm | No they aren't |
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| 23:19.00 | bourne_again | Yeah. When its ready may be nice in principle, but in reality, we need updates for newer hardware, newer technologies, etc. and we need them at least semi-stable |
| 23:19.00 | FieldySnuts | who's the troll now? |
| 23:19.05 | lef | this is why we liek debian, because it doesn't do time-based releases |
| 23:19.08 | krotz | NeedVaseline: Then what? :\ |
| 23:19.11 | FieldySnuts | grr sorry i'm pissy after that flooding crap.. |
| 23:19.19 | krotz | NeedVaseline: How come I don't see tcl8.4 there? |
| 23:19.21 | paulswm | lef: No it isn't necessarily |
| 23:19.31 | dondelelcaro | paulswm: releasing things that aren't ready just because some arbitrary time schedule has shown up isn't reasonable. |
| 23:19.41 | Cyis | well I'm out of here... later |
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| 23:19.47 | NeedVaseline | krotz: paste me one of these lines here, please |
| 23:19.53 | dondelelcaro | paulswm: increasing the speed of releases is, of course, but just releasing whatever is in testing because it's the ides of march isn't. |
| 23:19.54 | NeedVaseline | Of the grep result |
| 23:20.06 | CyL | I'm having some trouble using cups. Every print job is cancelled. In /var/log/cups/error_log I get the message "unalbe to convert file 0 to printable format" |
| 23:20.08 | johnga1t | is there a one-liner that will tell me the total size of the contents in a folder? |
| 23:20.14 | FieldySnuts | du -sh (second time) |
| 23:20.16 | resiak | johnga1t: du -sh . |
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| 23:20.19 | bourne_again | so dont make it arbitary. the people working on debian are experts, they should know if it will take 2 months or 2 years to finish somthing. Maybe no exact dates, but Q1 2006 Q2, somthing like that |
| 23:20.23 | dondelelcaro | johnga1t: du -hs; you've been told me this twice... |
| 23:20.27 | FieldySnuts | that's all subdirs too, to keep it to the current dir, man du |
| 23:20.27 | NeedVaseline | krotz: You can change to unstable and you will have tcl8.4 |
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| 23:20.33 | NeedVaseline | krotz: but once again, its "unstable" |
| 23:20.33 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: I'm not trolling, just becasue I'm echoing an opinion of Ian Murdock |
| 23:20.35 | krotz | NeedVaseline: Ah I see. |
| 23:20.39 | NeedVaseline | !tell krotz about unstable |
| 23:20.44 | FieldySnuts | paulswm: I didn't say you were, feeling guilty? |
| 23:20.49 | dondelelcaro | bourne_again: uh, we make estimates.... however, as always, it takes people who are actually willing to do the work. |
| 23:20.54 | WolfCub_1000 | Its spelled Ian Murdoch :P |
| 23:20.58 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: Heh, sorry, I thought you wer adressing me :) |
| 23:20.59 | krotz | NeedVaseline: Yeah it's okay for one program. |
| 23:21.07 | krotz | NeedVaseline: How do I change to unstable for a bit? |
| 23:21.12 | dondelelcaro | bourne_again: the things that have stalled the release are known, and have been known for quite some time. They've been made public for quite some time as well. |
| 23:21.12 | lef | some earlier versions of gnome had a little tool taht would let you switch between desktops |
| 23:21.15 | johnga1t | dondelelcaro sorry ... missed previous responses |
| 23:21.16 | gnufan | bourne_again, if you don't make it fixed you have the situation we are in now. Just because you are an expert doesn't let you predict software deadlines.... |
| 23:21.19 | resiak | !tell krotz -about quick sid/sarge mix |
| 23:21.21 | shining | krotz, don't |
| 23:21.27 | NeedVaseline | krotz: you cant for a bit, you change to unstable |
| 23:21.29 | lef | can't see how i can swicth something otehr than gnome now.. |
| 23:21.30 | FieldySnuts | postmaaan!! |
| 23:21.35 | NeedVaseline | Thanks resiak |
| 23:21.49 | valdyn | lef: startx -e gnome-session or startx -e startkde |
| 23:21.54 | krotz | NeedVaseline: How come? Can't you make an exception ? |
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| 23:22.04 | dondelelcaro | lef: or set up your .Xsession appropriately. |
| 23:22.06 | resiak | krotz: Sure you can. apt-get install -t unstable packageFoo |
| 23:22.14 | cockroach | I just shut down all major services (apache, mysql etc) but still 1.5GB of RAM seem to be used - where could they be? |
| 23:22.14 | resiak | krotz: As said in that dpkg factoid. |
| 23:22.19 | krotz | resiak: That was what I was looking for, thanks! |
| 23:22.21 | NeedVaseline | resiak: I didnt know that :) |
| 23:22.22 | dondelelcaro | !free ram |
| 23:22.23 | dpkg | Most modern operating systems try aggressively to use free physical memory for disk caching, but release it when actually needed by programs. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. |
| 23:22.23 | lef | oh thank you valdyn and dondelelcaro |
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| 23:22.37 | gnufan | bourne_again, if you need new hardware support you don't need stable ;) Stable is for people who want rock solid stability, you don't get that with new hardware. |
| 23:22.41 | dondelelcaro | cockroach: unused ram is wasted ram. |
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| 23:22.48 | dondelelcaro | cockroach: use the free; command. |
| 23:22.55 | krotz | resiak: But but how do I get the list for unstable programs? |
| 23:22.57 | NeedVaseline | krotz: I will be afk for a while, I have to speak to someone |
| 23:22.58 | mh_le | when I try to log into PHPMyAdmin I get this error... #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured) |
| 23:23.00 | krotz | programs/packages. |
| 23:23.07 | bourne_again | im not talking about bleeding edge hardware support, im talking about stuff thats come out more recently then 2 years ago |
| 23:23.08 | krotz | NeedVaseline: Okay no prob, thx for the help :) |
| 23:23.32 | dondelelcaro | bourne_again: hardware support is a function of the kernel. That stuff is always supportable by using a newer version of the kernel. |
| 23:23.36 | gnufan | bourne_again, woody is newer than XP, see people moaning about XP hardware support, maybe it isn't the release cycle that is the issue. |
| 23:23.36 | NeedVaseline | krotz: No prob, any time |
| 23:23.46 | resiak | krotz: If you just perform apt-cache search pkgfoo it will list results for both. But if you use the instructions you got, the sid version will only be installed if there isn't a sarge version. |
| 23:23.48 | cockroach | dondelelcaro: according to "free", 1.3 GB are "cached" - so they would be available if an application needed them, right? |
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| 23:23.51 | bourne_again | Yeah but with XP |
| 23:23.52 | dondelelcaro | cockroach: yes. |
| 23:23.54 | krotz | But however NeedVaseline.. when I use that unstable line it gives me like lets say: |
| 23:23.54 | krotz | E: Couldn't find package tcl8.4 |
| 23:23.58 | bourne_again | you just write a new driver, and install it |
| 23:24.02 | cockroach | dondelelcaro: wonderful, thanks :) |
| 23:24.04 | bourne_again | as opposed to linux where each person has to compile it |
| 23:24.09 | bourne_again | and the setup is much more complex |
| 23:24.10 | dondelelcaro | !info tcl8.4 |
| 23:24.11 | resiak | !tell krotz -about quick sid/sarge mix |
| 23:24.17 | dpkg | tcl8.4: (Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-time files), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 8.4.9-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1089 kB, Installed size: 3132 kB |
| 23:24.18 | FieldySnuts | bourne_again: trolling again? |
| 23:24.19 | Delph | bourne_again: lol. *petpet* |
| 23:24.24 | bourne_again | ... |
| 23:24.28 | bourne_again | I like linux much more then windows |
| 23:24.36 | NeedVaseline | resiak: Are you sure its -about ? |
| 23:24.40 | Delph | Compiling source code is **HARD** my brain hurts. |
| 23:24.40 | bourne_again | im just stating what i think |
| 23:24.41 | dondelelcaro | bourne_again: uh, no. You can quite trivially compile modules against the older kernels and release them. |
| 23:24.46 | FieldySnuts | Delph: HEH |
| 23:24.47 | resiak | NeedVaseline: Yes, I am. 100% sure. |
| 23:25.00 | NeedVaseline | resiak: I did without "-" and worked fine |
| 23:25.05 | krotz | Thanks resiak. |
| 23:25.06 | FieldySnuts | Looking at manuals is HARD! Let's go shopping instead! |
| 23:25.06 | bourne_again | It is not as easy as installing a driver in windows though. I'm not saying windows is better, im just saying some things are easier in it |
| 23:25.11 | dondelelcaro | bourne_again: the fact that no one is doing this might be indicative of the fact that no one particularly cares about it that much. |
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| 23:25.17 | spo0nman | a vim user? help |
| 23:25.21 | bourne_again | true |
| 23:25.24 | gnufan | bourne_again, nah you just upgrade the kernel with a kernel package, no need to compile |
| 23:25.29 | dondelelcaro | bourne_again: that's great. Why don't you compile the modules for everyone else then? |
| 23:25.41 | resiak | NeedVaseline: The - stops dpkg telling me it too. |
| 23:25.41 | bourne_again | Sure! . . . |
| 23:25.46 | Xenguy | bourne_again: I think yer missing the important point: Debian is *free* (as in freedom) |
| 23:25.51 | paulswm | !prize resiak |
| 23:25.53 | NeedVaseline | resiak: good. |
| 23:25.55 | spo0nman | i want to insert 0-100 in the begining of every line... how? |
| 23:25.56 | bourne_again | i know it is |
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| 23:26.21 | dondelelcaro | spo0nman: perl -pi -e '$_=qq(0-100$_);' foofile; |
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| 23:26.41 | krotz | resiak: Altho, I have no /etc/apt/apt.conf file |
| 23:26.41 | spo0nman | dondelelcaro, i asked vim not perl this i can do too |
| 23:26.55 | krotz | resiak: I only have a /etc/apt/apt-file.conf and that one has nothing about sid/sarge. |
| 23:26.58 | resiak | krotz: So you make it. |
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| 23:27.11 | FieldySnuts | good he left |
| 23:27.19 | krotz | resiak: You make it and type in the program you'd like to be as a sarge ? |
| 23:27.20 | cafuego | spo0nman: :%s/^/0-100/g |
| 23:27.23 | NeedVaseline | FieldySnuts: what was he doing? I couldnt read |
| 23:27.27 | paulswm | Yes, hooray |
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| 23:27.57 | spo0nman | cafuego, dondelelcaro you missunderstood my question |
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| 23:28.17 | dondelelcaro | spo0nman: uh, yes... because your question was rather badly worded. What exactly area you trying to do? introduce line numbers? |
| 23:28.18 | cafuego | spo0nman: No, my respoinse does EXACTLY what you asked. |
| 23:28.26 | spo0nman | cafuego, dondelelcaro i know. im sorry |
| 23:28.29 | NeedVaseline | cafuego: What he wants it to insert to a pre-made text file [0-100] behind each line |
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| 23:28.46 | spo0nman | cafuego, dondelelcaro anyways i'll do it myself... just wanted to know if vi could do it. |
| 23:28.49 | NeedVaseline | (I think) |
| 23:28.56 | cafuego | NeedVaseline: a line number or a string "0-100" ? |
| 23:28.59 | sparr_ | where is the "right" place for me to mount the hard drive that i use for cross-OS file storage? its not a temporary mount, its not part of anyones home directory, and its not a removable device |
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| 23:29.10 | NeedVaseline | cafuego: I dont get what you mean, but I will try to explain myself a bit more |
| 23:29.24 | NeedVaseline | Like you have 100 websites, 1 in each line |
| 23:29.25 | spo0nman | cafuego, dondelelcaro just wanted to replace first character of each line with a incrementing number 1 on first 2 on second .... |
| 23:29.36 | NeedVaseline | And you would love to put 1 to first website, 2 to the second |
| 23:29.40 | resiak | krotz: You do exactly what /msg dpkg quick sid/sarge mix says |
| 23:29.40 | cafuego | spo0nman: That's a bit clearer, yes. |
| 23:29.41 | NeedVaseline | Behind it |
| 23:29.41 | dondelelcaro | sparr_: your preference, typically. I like /mnt, other people may like a /foodevice or something. |
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| 23:29.59 | krotz | resiak: Yeah, I just don't get it overall that line, trying to figure it better out atm. |
| 23:30.05 | NeedVaseline | cafuego: ok he explained himself better |
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| 23:30.17 | resiak | krotz: Read it through, step by step. |
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| 23:30.59 | NeedVaseline | !tell NeedVaseline -about quick sid/sarge mix |
| 23:31.06 | dondelelcaro | NeedVaseline: you can /msg the bot |
| 23:31.07 | resiak | NeedVaseline: /msg dpkg msgdpkg |
| 23:31.34 | NeedVaseline | Aye, too lazy |
| 23:31.34 | NeedVaseline | :P |
| 23:31.37 | spo0nman | cafuego, cant be done using vim? |
| 23:32.05 | dondelelcaro | too lazy to type ~ 15 fewer characters? /me boggles |
| 23:32.19 | NeedVaseline | resiak: echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf |
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| 23:32.24 | NeedVaseline | That's what he did not get :P |
| 23:32.43 | sonimt | ween is the greatest rock n roll band of all time |
| 23:33.05 | resiak | NeedVaseline: I'll believe that.# |
| 23:33.08 | NeedVaseline | resiak: ^^ |
| 23:33.11 | resiak | krotz: That line NeedVaseline just mentioned appends that line to /etc/apt/apt.conf (or creates it if it doesn't exist.) |
| 23:33.17 | WolfCub_1000 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.20 | NeedVaseline | !tell krotz about unstable |
| 23:33.24 | NeedVaseline | !tell krotz about testing |
| 23:33.26 | cafuego | spo0nman: Unbountedly can, I just dunno how. |
| 23:33.33 | krotz | resiak: Yeah, but however I don't get the last part. |
| 23:33.38 | krotz | What are the sarge lines? |
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| 23:33.44 | krotz | But anyway, gonna read what dpkg said :) |
| 23:33.51 | spo0nman | cafuego, ok, /me perls |
| 23:33.56 | cafuego | spo0nman: Just use sed. |
| 23:33.59 | cafuego | spo0nman: sed '/./=' filename | sed '/./N; s/\n/ /' |
| 23:33.59 | NeedVaseline | krotz: Sid: unstable, sarge: testing |
| 23:34.01 | WolfCub_1000 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.06 | NeedVaseline | Thats what we ment krotz |
| 23:34.19 | NeedVaseline | You did have to change from stable to testing in order to do it, I think |
| 23:34.27 | sonimt | it was kind of a joke, but I could name a lot of musicians I prefer to the stones, though I do like the stones quite a bit. |
| 23:34.28 | NeedVaseline | Sorry if I'm wrong, I am no proffessional |
| 23:34.31 | sonimt | miles for one... |
| 23:34.53 | krotz | NeedVaseline: Here's a hint, you'll be more professional if you spell it like that. |
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| 23:35.05 | krotz | There is no double f :) |
| 23:35.13 | petemc | sed = filename | sed 'N;s/\n/\t/' |
| 23:35.14 | dondelelcaro | sparr_: you were talking rock bands... if we're going to start naming musicians, it'll be quite a long night... |
| 23:35.19 | krotz | Hehe |
| 23:35.21 | resiak | krotz: You're on stable? |
| 23:35.27 | krotz | resiak: Yes, I'm on stable. |
| 23:35.31 | NeedVaseline | krotz: Thank you |
| 23:35.43 | NeedVaseline | resiak: He is, based on what his sources.list has |
| 23:35.45 | resiak | krotz: Then ignore EVERYTHING I SAID |
| 23:35.49 | mh_le | can someone help me with getting phpmyadmin running? |
| 23:35.56 | resiak | krotz: You MUST NOT mix stable with unstable or testing. |
| 23:35.58 | CyL | How do I restart cupsd? |
| 23:35.59 | NeedVaseline | resiak: just port him to sarge :) |
| 23:36.00 | WolfCub_1000 | Back in the day, you were either a Beetles fan or a The Who fan, and america thought the beetles were the best thing since sliced bread so The Who didn't really get the attention they deserved. |
| 23:36.05 | resiak | krotz: Is this a server? |
| 23:36.10 | krotz | Yes resiak |
| 23:36.16 | krotz | I'd like tcl8.4 to get in, nothing more. |
| 23:36.28 | resiak | krotz: Is it a public server? |
| 23:36.28 | dondelelcaro | krotz: get a backport of tcl8.4 to stable... |
| 23:36.31 | Delph | then backport it to woody. |
| 23:36.35 | krotz | No resiak |
| 23:36.38 | Teemu_K | is 2000kb/sec good for 54MB wlan :I |
| 23:36.46 | resiak | krotz: Then upgrade to Sarge. |
| 23:37.04 | NeedVaseline | resiak: May I have the honor to do the explanation ? |
| 23:37.09 | krotz | resiak: ok.. |
| 23:37.13 | resiak | Delph, dondelelcaro: You think backport > upgrade in this situation? |
| 23:37.16 | krotz | NeedVaseline: Could you explain it to me ? |
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| 23:37.35 | NeedVaseline | krotz: It would be a pleasure |
| 23:37.46 | Delph | resiak: the request was for *one package* |
| 23:37.47 | NeedVaseline | krotz: What text editor do you use ? |
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| 23:37.53 | krotz | NeedVaseline: I use nano. |
| 23:38.00 | dondelelcaro | resiak: dunno how far along it is... if things are working, I'd just use a backport. |
| 23:38.00 | NeedVaseline | krotz: Thats my boy :D |
| 23:38.03 | Delph | unless it needs multiple random extra dependencies. |
| 23:38.04 | krotz | :) |
| 23:38.07 | krotz | I don't like vi. hehe |
| 23:38.09 | NeedVaseline | nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:38.18 | krotz | Okay, I'm in NeedVaseline |
| 23:38.31 | krotz | HEheh, yup :) |
| 23:38.41 | resiak | krotz: Do as Delph and dondelelcaro say, and just backport one package. |
| 23:38.47 | NeedVaseline | Do you see the lines where it says something like "deb (or deb-src) and a web address" ? |
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| 23:38.50 | resiak | NeedVaseline: Delph and dondelelcaro are right. |
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| 23:39.10 | krotz | Ah. |
| 23:39.14 | dondelelcaro | (but if someone wants to, go right on ahead) |
| 23:39.14 | NeedVaseline | resiak: I, as newbie, have been running big lan with sarge, and it was probably the best choice I've made |
| 23:39.20 | gsp | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.31 | CyL | How do I restart a servicew in sarge? |
| 23:39.37 | NeedVaseline | gsp: use framebuffer ftw |
| 23:39.39 | resiak | CyL: /etc/init.d/servicename restart |
| 23:39.39 | dondelelcaro | gsp: have you followed the instructions in /msg dpkg set up x |
| 23:39.47 | CyL | resiak<=- thanks |
| 23:39.48 | krotz | NeedVaseline: Yeah I seem 'em. |
| 23:39.52 | krotz | dondek: How would I backport ? |
| 23:39.56 | krotz | dondelelcaro |
| 23:39.57 | krotz | Even. |
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| 23:40.16 | NeedVaseline | krotz: You just have to replace the word "stable" for "testing" (or "unstable" if you are crazy enough) |
| 23:40.23 | dondelelcaro | krotz: you just need to find a package on apt-get.org or backports.org, add the source line to sources.list; and apt-get install tcl8.4; |
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| 23:40.51 | NeedVaseline | Uhm, dondelelcaro, now I figure, Im running unstable... |
| 23:40.54 | lunaphyte | why does the sshd_config man page suggest disabling password_authentication when UsePAM is active? |
| 23:40.57 | dondelelcaro | !tell krotz about backports |
| 23:41.00 | krotz | Ah dondelelcaro.. that's nice :) |
| 23:41.14 | bourne_again | Hey, anybody had any luck getting USB wireless adapters to work in debain? |
| 23:41.14 | Delph | lunaphyte: because PAM does password authentication as well? |
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| 23:41.47 | Delph | lunaphyte: or if you've got a different pam setup, then you don't want to be using the default password_authentication as well. |
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| 23:43.27 | krotz | dondelelcaro: Do I need to put a line called deb .. or just the source line ? |
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| 23:44.36 | dondelelcaro | krotz: the line starting with deb http://foobarbaz yada yada; is the source line. |
| 23:44.59 | lunaphyte | thanks delph |
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| 23:45.13 | NeedVaseline | !unf krotz |
| 23:45.18 | NeedVaseline | What the.. |
| 23:45.23 | NeedVaseline | dpkg doesn't has unf ? |
| 23:45.25 | dondelelcaro | krotz: deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ woody tcl8.4 |
| 23:45.58 | krotz | Thanks :) |
| 23:45.58 | NeedVaseline | krotz: that's a backport :) Easier way to be honest, I just wanted you to go to the dark testing/unstable side |
| 23:46.14 | krotz | Yeah, NeedVaseline :P |
| 23:46.14 | krotz | hehe |
| 23:46.33 | gass | NeedVaseline: just sarge |
| 23:47.24 | NeedVaseline | gass: Im running unstable atm (Dont ask why, I dont remember why I did it) |
| 23:47.32 | seberino | help! I can login to NIS/NFS'd non-root account locally but *not* when ssh'ing \in remotely? How fix? Why password doesn't work when ssh'ing? |
| 23:47.48 | Shorty` | echo /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 23:47.56 | Shorty` | see if root logins are enabld |
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| 23:48.20 | NeedVaseline | krotz: By the way, after this long chat |
| 23:48.30 | Guerin | echo? |
| 23:48.32 | krotz | Yeah? |
| 23:48.36 | NeedVaseline | krotz: What program do you have that requires tcl8.4 ? Ping Pong 3D ? |
| 23:48.47 | NeedVaseline | Shorty`: Shouldn't be cat ? |
| 23:48.52 | krotz | I'll tell you in private :) |
| 23:48.53 | Shorty` | that too |
| 23:48.53 | Shorty` | ahaha |
| 23:48.54 | directhex | seberino, excellent question. i had this earlier today |
| 23:48.58 | Shorty` | I've -just- woken up |
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| 23:49.02 | Shorty` | work soon *groan* |
| 23:49.03 | mh_le | how do I start mysqld? |
| 23:49.06 | NeedVaseline | krotz: Sex Tetris ? |
| 23:49.11 | seberino | directhex: got an excellent answer? :) |
| 23:49.13 | krotz | lol |
| 23:49.13 | krotz | it's a tcl script for a ftpd. |
| 23:49.20 | Guerin | mh_le: /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 23:49.21 | gsp | how do I find the bus ID of my PCI video card? |
| 23:49.30 | gsp | I have 2 cards... one AGP and one PCI |
| 23:49.30 | NeedVaseline | Nice krotz |
| 23:49.40 | gsp | I wish to use the PCI card |
| 23:49.42 | Guerin | gsp: lspci |grep -i vga |
| 23:49.46 | directhex | seberino, sure. plug in a serial console, and connect over ttyS0 \o/ |
| 23:49.51 | directhex | sigh |
| 23:49.54 | directhex | lspci -X |
| 23:49.59 | mh_le | Guerin: it's not there |
| 23:50.03 | krotz | However, after I installed tcl8.4 and tcl8.4-dev it still says: |
| 23:50.04 | krotz | error: You must be using Tcl v8.4, or newer |
| 23:50.10 | Guerin | mh_le: then you haven't installed a mysql server. |
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| 23:50.19 | seberino | directhex: that doesn't really explain what is preventing ssh from working |
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| 23:50.22 | gass | NeedVaseline: you are absolutely suicidel |
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| 23:50.40 | cafuego | AIYEEEEE |
| 23:50.40 | krotz | I'll fix it |
| 23:50.44 | krotz | Thanks guys, thanks NeedVaseline also |
| 23:50.45 | NeedVaseline | gass: Excuse me ? |
| 23:50.46 | directhex | seberino, no, but it's how i got around the problem of needing remote access. let me know if you find an answer |
| 23:50.47 | krotz | Thanks dondelelcaro |
| 23:50.49 | krotz | :) |
| 23:50.52 | NeedVaseline | krotz: Not a prob m8 :) |
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| 23:51.06 | NeedVaseline | gass: Ahh, I'm guessing you mean for the file-size :) |
| 23:51.06 | cafuego | System Board $531.82 |
| 23:51.09 | seberino | directhex: i'm wondering is sshd_config needs to be tweaked somehow |
| 23:51.16 | NeedVaseline | gass: You can try to add |less at the end |
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| 23:51.17 | seberino | directhex: s/is/if |
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| 23:51.45 | paulswm | cafuego: system board for what? |
| 23:51.48 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: system bored: priceless |
| 23:51.49 | directhex | seberino, i heard suggestions that /etc/pam.d/ssh might be a good target to fiddle |
| 23:51.49 | cafuego | paulswm: laptop |
| 23:51.56 | paulswm | Holy crap |
| 23:51.58 | NeedVaseline | seberino: I have root login thro SSH disabled, very suggested :D |
| 23:52.00 | aardvark | lions? |
| 23:52.08 | cafuego | the pcmcia slots are malfunctioning |
| 23:52.18 | Guerin | cafuego: didn't know they made quad opteron laptops... |
| 23:52.18 | cafuego | maybe a usb wifi dongle is cheaper ;-) |
| 23:52.44 | paulswm | Anyway, off now, you all stay safe |
| 23:52.45 | cafuego | Guerin: it's a single Athlon XP-M 2000 actually <heh> |
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| 23:53.32 | NeedVaseline | directhex: You know, I hate you |
| 23:53.58 | Guerin | is that why you need the vaseline? |
| 23:54.30 | cafuego | directhex: athlon64's aren't that expensive |
| 23:54.33 | NeedVaseline | Guerin: Im gathering a lot of vaseline to sell it |
| 23:54.40 | NeedVaseline | cafuego: Sadly they were when I bought mine |
| 23:54.50 | Guerin | NeedVaseline: suuure you are |
| 23:54.55 | cafuego | NeedVaseline: They were when I bought mine in '96 |
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| 23:55.26 | Guerin | directhex: didn't you just buy a horribly tricked-out computer about 2 months ago? |
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| 23:55.39 | directhex | Guerin, no, the plan was to buy a silly computer in 3 chunks |
| 23:55.48 | Guerin | oh |
| 23:55.52 | directhex | Guerin, i got a big tft, an audigy & lots of ram last time |
| 23:55.52 | cafuego | directhex: If it's any consolation, a 2800+ is fucking fast too <heh> |
| 23:56.10 | Guerin | directhex: now: cpu and mobo? |
| 23:56.19 | NeedVaseline | directhex: What do you work on ? |
| 23:56.42 | cafuego | Guerin: Wait til you see his face when he fugures out the ram won't fit ;-) |
| 23:56.43 | directhex | Guerin, next month is cpu, mobo & gfx. yesterday i ordered case, speakers, cvc, hard disk, things like that |
| 23:56.46 | gsp | Failed to Load the NVIDIA Kernel Module |
| 23:56.49 | directhex | nice big lian-li |
| 23:56.50 | CyL | Could, please, a good soul tell me why every job I send to my printer is instantly cancelled? |
| 23:57.02 | directhex | NeedVaseline, i work in supercomputing. |
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| 23:57.08 | cureless | CyL: the printer doesn't like you |
| 23:57.20 | NeedVaseline | directhex: where ? |
| 23:57.22 | Guerin | hahah |
| 23:57.29 | directhex | NeedVaseline, oxford university |
| 23:57.42 | gsp | can someone help me get this NVIDIA driver going? |
| 23:57.44 | NeedVaseline | directhex: Are they looking for an apprentice ? |
| 23:57.49 | cafuego | CyL: Look at the print server logs. |
| 23:57.52 | directhex | gsp, m-a a-i nvidia |
| 23:58.05 | cureless | CyL: make sure you have the spool directory for that printer. |
| 23:58.05 | gsp | directhex: HUH? |
| 23:58.14 | gsp | is that a command line? |
| 23:58.25 | directhex | no, it's an ancient religious text. |
| 23:58.26 | CyL | cureless<=- I doesn like it neither... but you see... my printer is a whore... I give it some paper, and it does thing I like.... |
| 23:58.27 | ledestin | !tell gsp about nvidia |
| 23:58.30 | NeedVaseline | gsp: No, he got mind-blocked and he is saying stupid stuff |
| 23:58.31 | WolfCub_1000 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.34 | directhex | let me guess. you used nvidia-installer from nvidia.com? |
| 23:58.39 | b00 | loool |
| 23:58.48 | b00 | what the heck , NeedVaseline |
| 23:58.55 | NeedVaseline | directhex: Probably he did |
| 23:59.04 | NeedVaseline | What the heck b00? |
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| 23:59.10 | b00 | your nick |
| 23:59.11 | directhex | NeedVaseline, apprenticeships are few & far between in uk industry these days |
| 23:59.18 | NeedVaseline | :( |
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| 23:59.25 | NeedVaseline | b00: It is "Need Vaseline?" |
| 23:59.30 | WolfCub_1000 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.43 | WolfCub_1000 | If you used the one from nvidia's site, remove it. |
| 23:59.47 | WolfCub_1000 | Then run: |
| 23:59.49 | gsp | I ran m-a a-i nvidia and it said it aleady exists |
| 23:59.52 | WolfCub_1000 | <PROTECTED> |
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