| 00:00.12 | Slyboots | Does Debian have anything like Legand of the Red Dragon? |
| 00:00.29 | drac | Slyboots: That old BBS game? |
| 00:00.33 | Slyboots | Thats the one |
| 00:00.40 | Slyboots | dont diss it cause its old |
| 00:00.43 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: try nethack instead |
| 00:00.44 | drac | Hehe, I remember it 8-) |
| 00:00.53 | drac | Slyboots: I had it on my BBS back in the days. |
| 00:00.54 | Slyboots | nethack is already on |
| 00:01.03 | Slyboots | I thought that was part of the standard install :D |
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| 00:01.16 | drac | Not for BBBS for OS/2.. |
| 00:01.19 | karamelos | how to disable IDE interface probing while bootin, anyone knows? |
| 00:01.20 | _wrs | streuner: i just skipped through the pics, firstly. they look the way pppoeconf looked when i used it a while ago to get a network link at all. But when i rebooted the just-by-pppoe-config-created config didn't work anymore. That's why i think, it's not a config problem. Well, to get sure I'm going to read the text now |
| 00:01.22 | drac | Maybe on PC Board. |
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| 00:01.59 | mdke | does anyone know what the error "no owner name" means, in bind? pleeeease! my zone file has errors all over it and I don't know why, i copied it from a guide. My zone file is here: http://pastebin.ca/10114 thanks in advance |
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| 00:02.46 | asg | mdke: have you asked #dns yet? |
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| 00:03.01 | mdke | asg, no this is the first channel I've tried |
| 00:03.09 | FieldySnuts | pry better off googling for it |
| 00:03.10 | asg | mdke: try there first |
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| 00:03.48 | mdke | asg, i have a friend of mine helping me, his feeling is that it might be something due to a debian-specific configuration |
| 00:04.06 | mdke | asg, hang on, maybe i've found it |
| 00:04.16 | asg | mdke: if you copied the config from a book, it isn't a debian specific configuration issue |
| 00:04.32 | mdke | asg, it was a debian book :p |
| 00:04.36 | mdke | but i may have found the problem |
| 00:04.42 | _wrs | streuner: PS: I looked at /usr/sbin/pppoeconf to actually find out what's the difference between the situation just after pppoe-config brings the link up and the situation after a reboot. As said before, it is a inconspicuous "ifconfig ethX up". Therefore I think, the prob can be solved if i place that little command on some useful place. But i just don't know where this place is |
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| 00:07.08 | streuner | _wrs: do you use an DSL-Modem or the one from telekom? |
| 00:07.29 | _wrs | streuner: the telekom modem works fine. Why? |
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| 00:08.14 | streuner | _wrs: because telekom modem works with NIC, others without... |
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| 00:09.00 | _wrs | streuner: well on another pc without an updated ppp package the modem works fine. Also the cable and the config. |
| 00:09.01 | streuner | _wrs: according to adsl4linux.de you should look at telekom NOT 1&1 then... |
| 00:09.48 | asg | !beer Xsquared |
| 00:10.00 | Xsquared | ;-) |
| 00:10.05 | streuner | _wrs: well, why not just get the same package and install it on that box? |
| 00:10.48 | dan2 | asg: yo yo yo |
| 00:10.50 | _wrs | streuner: because i like it to have _no_ problems. If i install that package there, too, i'm pretty sure I'll get the prob there too. |
| 00:10.52 | asg | dan2: hiya |
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| 00:11.15 | dan2 | asg: you try `git' yet |
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| 00:11.29 | dan2 | asg: (Linus and Petr's handcrafted scm) |
| 00:11.38 | _wrs | streuner: btw: that adsl package doesn't mention only suse howtos for kernel based pppoe drivers |
| 00:11.41 | dan2 | asg: extremely fast, works over rsync too |
| 00:11.46 | dan2 | well, its based on rsync |
| 00:11.47 | asg | dan2: no, I've been re-engineering my network. My switch's psu was making ticking noises last night so I've been rebuilding things all day. |
| 00:11.49 | streuner | _wrs: from the working box to the box you have problems and copy all /etc/ppp/ files over |
| 00:12.00 | _wrs | streuner: PS: for kernel 2.6.* |
| 00:12.02 | k-man1 | anyone ever got webdav going for use with thunderbird? |
| 00:12.35 | Slyboots | mm.. What do I have to install to get PHP and SQL to work with Apache? |
| 00:12.54 | asg | Slyboots: apache libapache-mod-php4 php4 php4-mysql |
| 00:13.17 | _wrs | streuner: since i didn't change any of the configs that's not the prob. I indeed checked everything else. It is not the configs. It's only that ifconfig ... up thing. |
| 00:13.19 | asg | Slyboots: and making sure that /etc/php4/apache/php.ini contains 'extension=mysql.so' |
| 00:13.56 | _wrs | streuner: BTW: I'm currently working on the "not working" box |
| 00:14.02 | Slyboots | Wow, that was quick.. |
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| 00:15.10 | streuner | _wrs: http://www.adsl4linux.de/howtos/rp-pppoe.php?PROVIDER=T-Online&DIST=Deb30 |
| 00:15.23 | streuner | _wrs: use that to install everything |
| 00:15.58 | streuner | _wrs: after you are finish with the install-process you _HAVE_ to edit the config files according to that: |
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| 00:16.57 | streuner | http://www.adsl4linux.de/howtos/rp-pppoe.php?PROVIDER=1und1&DIST=Deb30 |
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| 00:18.08 | _wrs | streuner: did you ever used ifconfig ethX do put a link up? |
| 00:18.35 | streuner | _wrs: no |
| 00:18.47 | d03boy | anyone know of a good bittorrent client that doesnt require java? |
| 00:19.10 | streuner | _wrs: as i said before, i used Fritz!DSL modem |
| 00:19.11 | Slyboots | TorrentStorm |
| 00:19.13 | Slyboots | Bittorrent |
| 00:19.20 | Slyboots | Bittornado |
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| 00:20.02 | d03boy | thanks... |
| 00:20.08 | Slyboots | hmm.. I installed php4-mysql |
| 00:20.18 | Slyboots | But how do I edit and access the sql system? |
| 00:20.37 | maher | Slyboots: /us/share/doc/php4-mysql |
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| 00:21.10 | Slyboots | .. its empty |
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| 00:22.14 | _wrs | streuner: well, other question: are you savvy in shell programming? |
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| 00:23.20 | streuner | _wrs: just ask, if i don't the answer, there are more than 776 people around |
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| 00:24.21 | Lufomir | checked http://www.hugon.7u.pl/ |
| 00:24.36 | streuner | _wrs: the scripts fromt that website just running fine |
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| 00:25.16 | _wrs | streuner: i wan't to do nothing else but patch an appropriate shell script to get that "ifconfig ethX up" done just before the "pon dsl-provider" gets started. |
| 00:25.27 | Patrick` | I've apt-get installed source for a package, and patched it |
| 00:25.33 | Patrick` | but I can't see a way to make it into a .deb |
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| 00:25.42 | maher | _wrs: why not just use ifplugd |
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| 00:26.00 | maher | Patrick`: dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 00:26.13 | Patrick` | aaaaaaah |
| 00:26.13 | Patrick` | ta |
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| 00:26.51 | caphuso | _wrs: check the connect option in "man pppd" |
| 00:27.44 | Delph | sly: what do you mean 'edit and access' ? |
| 00:27.50 | _wrs | streuner: excuse me. I have to go to bed now |
| 00:27.56 | Patrick` | yay |
| 00:28.01 | Patrick` | oo-er, issa bunny |
| 00:28.20 | Slyboots | Well, Im trying to setup a SQL database for Legand of the Green Dragon |
| 00:28.22 | Delph | indeed =:) |
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| 00:28.28 | Xsquared | ok, i know that where is heaps of blootbots in here, so i'll quickly ask.. in the blootbot.chan, is _default used in every channel or do i have to remove that? |
| 00:28.32 | Slyboots | But.. Quite frankly I have no idea how to do that in Debian :P |
| 00:28.46 | Delph | Slyboots: do you have mysql installed? |
| 00:28.53 | maher | Slyboots: are you running a mysql server |
| 00:28.55 | Slyboots | I installed php4-mysql |
| 00:29.01 | Delph | did you install a mysql *server* |
| 00:29.04 | Slyboots | Hard to say.. |
| 00:29.10 | Xsquared | Slyboots: apt-get install mysql |
| 00:29.16 | Delph | what Xsquared said |
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| 00:29.21 | asg | Xsquared: mysql-server |
| 00:29.27 | Xsquared | thats the one |
| 00:29.27 | Xsquared | lol |
| 00:29.35 | Slyboots | Okay, Building.. |
| 00:29.36 | Delph | you've just got the PHP-talking-to-mysql bits at. |
| 00:29.57 | spoopin | asg: asg! |
| 00:30.02 | asg | spoopin: hiya |
| 00:30.21 | spoopin | asg: did you get my mail? |
| 00:30.21 | asg | spoopin: I've got your copy of LDH here, btw. |
| 00:30.25 | lunaphyte | how can i stop iptables from logging like crazy to the console? |
| 00:30.31 | asg | spoopin: about tomorrow at ty's? |
| 00:30.39 | asg | lunaphyte: /msg dpkg klogd |
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| 00:30.49 | spoopin | asg: yeah. There or here.. it's not yet decided. |
| 00:30.54 | spoopin | asg: LDH? |
| 00:31.05 | asg | spoopin: I'd rather at your place since it will be much less smokey |
| 00:31.09 | asg | spoopin: Linux Desktop Hacks |
| 00:31.10 | Slyboots | Okay, SQL server online |
| 00:31.18 | asg | spoopin: my copies arrived |
| 00:31.18 | lunaphyte | asg: thanks |
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| 00:31.39 | spoopin | asg: I know. We've got to convince Ty of that, though... and that's very cool! |
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| 00:32.00 | asg | spoopin: quite |
| 00:32.03 | Delph | Slyboots: you might want phpmysqladmin as well |
| 00:32.20 | spoopin | asg: If we're to be here i've got to clean some tonight.. |
| 00:32.33 | asg | spoopin: nah, I don't think that is necessary |
| 00:32.39 | Slyboots | mysql-admin? |
| 00:32.43 | asg | spoopin: I'm happy to squint if it helps |
| 00:32.58 | Delph | maybe |
| 00:33.40 | spoopin | asg: Very kind of you, but no. The question is, do I just clean - or do I take 3 more shots of Cap'n Morgan, then clean |
| 00:33.53 | asg | spoopin: cap'n -n- clean |
| 00:34.01 | FieldySnuts | @clean spoopin |
| 00:34.04 | spoopin | asg: that's what I'm thinking |
| 00:34.15 | asg | spoopin: sounds good to me. |
| 00:34.31 | spoopin | asg: fun. When should I call tomorrow |
| 00:34.32 | shining | whats the default port for postfix? |
| 00:34.40 | asg | shining: 25 |
| 00:34.47 | asg | spoopin: whenever is convenient for you. |
| 00:35.06 | spoopin | asg: Sometime around 2 or 3? |
| 00:35.12 | asg | spoopin: yeah, sounds good |
| 00:35.26 | spoopin | asg: quite.. later then... |
| 00:35.39 | asg | spoopin: cool, enjoy sailing with the captain |
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| 00:35.57 | spoopin | asg: :) |
| 00:36.15 | yugiohjcj | hi :-) |
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| 00:36.43 | chealer | MegaByte: the packages on testing evolve so get bug fixes, the ones in stable only get fixed for serious problems |
| 00:36.50 | shining | asg, hmm I should need to open this port for sending mail ? |
| 00:36.58 | maher | shining: yes |
| 00:37.11 | revenger_ | does anyone know where I can set the xfree ctrl alt +/- hotkeys? it's quite annoying on a laptop since I have to use the fn keys to switch the keyboard to the numerical pad.. |
| 00:37.14 | asg | shining: no, unless your firewall is blocking outbound port 25 |
| 00:37.25 | EmergeTW | dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.6.9-chw-4_10.00.Custom_i386.deb (--install): |
| 00:37.25 | EmergeTW | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.26 | shining | its funny, coz it wasnt open and I was able to send one mail to a gmail address |
| 00:37.45 | EmergeTW | I get that when trying to install a kernel, any ideas? |
| 00:37.56 | maher | shining: it depends on what's being blocked and how you sent the mail |
| 00:37.58 | shining | I think my router block everything by default |
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| 00:38.07 | shining | everything output |
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| 00:38.40 | maher | shining: most routers allow outgoing stuff |
| 00:38.47 | asg | shining: most SOHO routers default to block all inbound unless they are part of an existing outbound connection. |
| 00:39.12 | Xsquared | can a blootbot have more than 1 owner? |
| 00:39.15 | Patrick` | mmm routers |
| 00:39.21 | asg | mmm bacon |
| 00:39.23 | shining | ho yes sure, I'm fuckin retarded |
| 00:39.27 | Slyboots | I installed admin-sql, but when I enter the details |
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| 00:39.34 | Xsquared | mmm beer |
| 00:39.41 | Slyboots | I get a "localhost.localdomain" is not allowed to connec to this SQL server |
| 00:39.57 | spoopin | mmmm forbidden doughnuts |
| 00:40.06 | maher | shining: ignore my previous answer - if you only want to send mail from behind the router it probably lets you do this by default |
| 00:40.10 | asg | arrrghyl |
| 00:40.14 | Slyboots | hehe |
| 00:40.23 | Slyboots | Anyone know what might be causing this problem? |
| 00:40.36 | maher | Slyboots: read /us/share/doc/mysql or whatever |
| 00:40.40 | Xsquared | Slyboots: you have to change change that in mysql privilages |
| 00:40.43 | shining | maher, yep |
| 00:40.58 | spoopin | Slyboots: apt-get install mysql-doc |
| 00:40.59 | shining | maher, but for receiving mail, I need to open this port? |
| 00:41.14 | maher | shining: how are you going to receive the mail? |
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| 00:41.36 | Xsquared | Slyboots: log onto the database, and change the table mysql so you can read and write to it |
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| 00:41.52 | Slyboots | How can I log onto the database if I cant gain access to it |
| 00:41.55 | raf256 | user mode linux - can be used for secure environment? |
| 00:41.56 | shining | maher, well I don't know anything :) postfix just allow sending mail ? |
| 00:42.04 | asg | Slyboots: did you set the default password yet? |
| 00:42.12 | asg | Slyboots: as you were instructed to do? |
| 00:42.13 | Slyboots | I've not set anything yet, I cant get access to the SQL |
| 00:42.21 | raf256 | I mean, there is no know exploit that will cause UML to malufunction so hard that it will effect the real system? |
| 00:42.22 | asg | Slyboots: mysqladmin -u root password 'foo' |
| 00:42.26 | maher | shining: if you want remote boxes to talk to your local postfix you need to open 25 |
| 00:42.38 | shining | maher, ok |
| 00:42.51 | Slyboots | right.., |
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| 00:43.13 | Slyboots | thats the password set now then |
| 00:43.37 | asg | Slyboots: then instruct phpmyadmin to login with root using the password you just set. |
| 00:43.42 | buhb0 | hey anyone want to test my website for me? its an old computer and i need to know if it can take a load or not. its just a sentence and a picture: jeffwho.kicks-ass.net |
| 00:44.05 | Xsquared | Slyboots: now change the privilages |
| 00:44.14 | asg | buhb0: even old computers with static content can take more load than your connection can probably push |
| 00:44.23 | Xsquared | also, can a blootbot have more than 1 owner :'-(? |
| 00:44.31 | buhb0 | its only got 32 megs of mem and 200 mhz |
| 00:44.34 | Slyboots | Im not using phpmyadmin |
| 00:44.37 | asg | buhb0: so |
| 00:44.44 | Slyboots | Im using.. mysql-admin |
| 00:44.44 | Xsquared | Slyboots: use it! |
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| 00:44.46 | buhb0 | asg: thanks thats good news |
| 00:44.46 | maher | buhb0: it can take the load - so could a 386... |
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| 00:45.00 | Xsquared | Slyboots: its easier using phpmyadmin |
| 00:45.04 | asg | buhb0: I've been running a 200mhz / 48M gateway for years doing web, mail, etc. |
| 00:45.07 | buhb0 | did the site work for yall? |
| 00:45.19 | Lufomir | checked http://www.hugon.7u.pl/ |
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| 00:45.39 | Slyboots | Would help if I installed it.. :D |
| 00:45.42 | asg | buhb0: fine here |
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| 00:46.07 | buhb0 | thansk ask |
| 00:46.14 | buhb0 | asg |
| 00:46.14 | asg | npsk |
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| 00:46.32 | Slyboots | Silly question, but how do I run it? |
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| 00:47.23 | Slyboots | using phpmyadmin does not work, and there is no man page about phpmyadmin |
| 00:47.27 | linoleum | hi guys, do you know how Can I lauch a second session of GDM on the Xserver --:1 ? |
| 00:47.38 | asg | buhb0: if you want to do a simple local benchmark, 'man ab' |
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| 00:47.54 | linoleum | usualy, I do startx :--1 |
| 00:48.00 | linoleum | but now I use GDM |
| 00:48.02 | asg | buhb0: that will generate more bandwidth that you probably have upstream. |
| 00:48.13 | linoleum | so, I dont know how to lauch it |
| 00:48.14 | Slyboots | ? |
| 00:48.21 | deadcat | how much do you guys think this should worth? http://www.craigslist.org/eby/sys/69447605.html : i say under $40 then i will buy |
| 00:48.35 | deadcat | linoleum: startx -- :1 |
| 00:48.44 | asg | linoleum: iirc, /etc/X11/gdm/*conf can be used to start >1 session. Just look for the line that starts the session and replicate it |
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| 00:50.19 | Slyboots | Ugh, this is driving me nuts |
| 00:50.33 | Slyboots | I've installed phpmyadmin, but I cant get the bloody thing to start, |
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| 00:52.01 | shogoki | hi |
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| 00:53.43 | Slyboots | Does anyone know where phpmyadmin is installed by default? |
| 00:53.58 | deadcat | Slyboots: dpkg -L phpmyadmin |
| 00:54.12 | Patrick` | no init.d script? |
| 00:54.25 | deadcat | Patrick`: your fucked then |
| 00:54.42 | Patrick` | deadcat: I was asking! |
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| 00:55.04 | Patrick` | I don't know if it has or not, but if it does, what's wrong with it that's making it not start |
| 00:55.25 | Slyboots | ffs, Im stumped here |
| 00:55.43 | Patrick` | Slyboots: tried the init scripts? |
| 00:55.49 | Slyboots | what init scripts? |
| 00:55.54 | Slyboots | Just said "Oh install this" |
| 00:55.56 | Slyboots | then thats it |
| 00:56.02 | Patrick` | oh. |
| 00:56.10 | Patrick` | that's not very handy |
| 00:56.11 | maher | Slyboots: read the docs |
| 00:56.17 | Slyboots | ... What docs?! |
| 00:56.27 | Patrick` | /usr/share/doc/$whatever |
| 00:56.32 | deadcat | damn. one minute sunny, now shower, thinking about washing my car (= |
| 00:56.32 | maher | Slyboots: /usr/share/doc/packagename |
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| 00:56.46 | Patrick` | and try "/etc/init.d/phpmywhatever start" |
| 00:56.52 | Patrick` | unless you have already |
| 00:56.54 | Patrick` | call it a hunch |
| 00:56.55 | asg | Slyboots: http://localhost/phpmyadmin (as indicated in /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.Debian) |
| 00:57.02 | Slyboots | thats not working |
| 00:57.16 | asg | Slyboots: it's a web based mysql client |
| 00:57.16 | Patrick` | docs are always directed at people who know roughly what to do |
| 00:57.17 | Slyboots | I just get a 404 |
| 00:57.38 | asg | Slyboots: did you restart apache after installing it? |
| 00:57.39 | Patrick` | oh, it's some kind of web thingy? |
| 00:57.42 | Slyboots | Not Found |
| 00:57.43 | Slyboots | The requested URL /cgi-bin/php/phpmyadmin/index.php was not found on this server. |
| 00:57.43 | Slyboots | Apache/2.0.53 (Debian GNU/Linux) Server at localhost Port 80 |
| 00:57.54 | Patrick` | ok, yeah, restart apache |
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| 00:58.06 | asg | Slyboots: ? |
| 00:58.08 | Slyboots | Did that already |
| 00:58.18 | asg | Slyboots: it's in http://localhost/phpmyadmin |
| 00:58.28 | Slyboots | thats what I put it, but thats where it looks |
| 00:58.37 | Slyboots | http://localhost/phpmyadmin |
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| 00:58.50 | Slyboots | But it still prints out the exact same msg as above |
| 00:58.54 | asg | Slyboots: are you running Debian or some debian derivative? |
| 00:59.07 | asg | Slyboots: if the former, which Debian? sarge? |
| 00:59.08 | dan2 | asg: you're still around? |
| 00:59.09 | dan2 | wow |
| 00:59.12 | asg | dan2: yeah |
| 00:59.13 | Slyboots | Debian Sarge |
| 00:59.24 | Slyboots | 2.6 kernel |
| 01:00.01 | asg | Slyboots: look at /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf. Does it say anything about cgi-bin/php/... in there? |
| 01:00.49 | Slyboots | hmm... no |
| 01:01.27 | asg | Slyboots: does "grep -ilr 'cgi-bin/php' /etc/apache2" return any file name? |
| 01:02.04 | asg | Slyboots: also does "grep -ilr 'cgi-bin/php' /etc/apache" return any file name? |
| 01:02.06 | Slyboots | slyboots@ElanVital:~$ grep -ilr `cgi-bin/php` /etc/apache2 |
| 01:02.06 | Slyboots | bash: cgi-bin/php: No such file or directory |
| 01:02.14 | asg | Slyboots: not `, ' |
| 01:02.21 | asg | Slyboots: single quotes, note backticks |
| 01:02.24 | asg | s/note/not/ |
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| 01:02.26 | Slyboots | Okay, No output |
| 01:02.36 | asg | Slyboots: and the same in /etc/apache |
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| 01:02.52 | Slyboots | Again, no output |
| 01:03.26 | asg | Slyboots: hmmm, that's just silly |
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| 01:03.32 | Slyboots | In what sence? |
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| 01:04.00 | asg | Slyboots: nothing in your apache config or apache2 config is redirecting to cgi-bin/php |
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| 01:04.32 | Slyboots | So how would I go about fixing this, sillyness |
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| 01:05.13 | asg | Slyboots: oh, /usr/share/phpmyadmin/.htaccess does though. |
| 01:05.26 | maher | Slyboots: do not attempt to google for docs about accessing a mysql server via php |
| 01:05.35 | asg | Slyboots: you didn't install libapache2-mod-php4? |
| 01:05.40 | Xsquared | how can i put blootbot into the background? |
| 01:05.55 | Slyboots | apparently not.. |
| 01:06.09 | Slyboots | I may have installed it for apache though |
| 01:06.10 | asg | Slyboots: install that, restart apache, and see if that helps. |
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| 01:06.17 | asg | s/apache/apache2/ |
| 01:06.24 | Slyboots | right, apache2 reloaded as part of the script |
| 01:06.31 | Slyboots | Run localhost/myphpadmin again? |
| 01:06.43 | Slyboots | AHH! I can see, said the blind man |
| 01:06.45 | asg | Slyboots: yes but the script is assuming that you only have php4-cgi installed, not the php4 apache module |
| 01:06.54 | Slyboots | myphpadmin |
| 01:07.02 | Slyboots | In all its shiny http glory |
| 01:07.15 | deadcat | hmm. my hdb which is cdrom has disapeared in /dev/ |
| 01:07.17 | Slyboots | I see so much now |
| 01:07.20 | Slyboots | :) |
| 01:07.32 | asg | Slyboots: if it's working now, use it to create whatever you need to install your game. The game should provide instructions. |
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| 01:07.43 | Slyboots | It does mention jsut creating a database |
| 01:08.00 | Slyboots | But Im going to go and cry for a few seconds as my eyes burn, burn iwht the heat of a thousand suns |
| 01:08.03 | asg | Slyboots: you can do that from the cli with 'mysqladmin create foo' |
| 01:08.33 | Slyboots | Well, it just says "create the database" |
| 01:08.37 | Slyboots | lol |
| 01:08.39 | asg | Slyboots: but, since you have the php frontend, you can use that also ;) |
| 01:09.06 | Slyboots | *nods* |
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| 01:09.11 | Slyboots | I guess I can just call it anything.. |
| 01:09.30 | asg | Slyboots: yes, the game should be configurable as to which database is used. |
| 01:09.36 | rixth | I can't get Gnomad2 to compile. I've posted a log here, http://spectrumenterprises.org/gnomad is anyone can offer and hlp it would be greatly appreciated |
| 01:09.39 | asg | Slyboots: they would, hopefully, tell you otherwise. |
| 01:09.39 | Slyboots | Right, database ready.. I guess.. |
| 01:09.42 | Slyboots | hehe |
| 01:09.46 | abrotman | problem is mysql |
| 01:09.50 | abrotman | !beer asg |
| 01:09.55 | asg | abrotman: nah, mysql is easy to use. |
| 01:10.01 | ysothoth | heh |
| 01:10.01 | abrotman | asg: pgsql! |
| 01:10.13 | ysothoth | foogoomagoo...sql |
| 01:10.21 | asg | abrotman: the client, at least in woody, doesn't have readline support |
| 01:10.23 | Slyboots | Right.. now I have to create an account on behalf of the game |
| 01:10.28 | asg | abrotman: and is therefore crap |
| 01:10.30 | Slyboots | But.. is that in linux, or mysql.. |
| 01:10.34 | asg | Slyboots: mysql |
| 01:11.00 | asg | abrotman: it's still a great db, just has a shitty cli interface. |
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| 01:11.05 | Xsquared | abrotman: can blootbot be executed into the background? |
| 01:11.07 | Slyboots | Okay, on that :D |
| 01:11.16 | asg | Xsquared: blootbot & |
| 01:11.23 | Xsquared | ahh yes |
| 01:11.27 | Xsquared | thanks asg |
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| 01:11.36 | Slyboots | On note of this |
| 01:11.48 | Slyboots | Is there anything I should do to secure the system against intrusion? |
| 01:11.56 | Lufomir | checked http://www.hugon.7u.pl/ |
| 01:12.14 | asg | Slyboots: as long as it is running only on localhost (which it should be by default since you are using sarge), you should be fine. |
| 01:12.15 | FieldySnuts | oh that could take a few days to talk about :) |
| 01:12.29 | rixth | Anyone who uses mySQL (or any SQL-server for that matter) MUST read up on SQL Injection attacks |
| 01:12.36 | asg | Slyboots: the system as a whole, though, requires more work. apt-get install harden-doc (and read) |
| 01:12.44 | FieldySnuts | also do all mysql operations over ssl |
| 01:12.44 | yangsx | I cannot look up Germans words that contains umlaut letter. does anybody come across the same problem? |
| 01:12.56 | asg | FieldySnuts: he's localhost so that shouldn't be an issue |
| 01:13.09 | Slyboots | kay |
| 01:13.19 | rixth | FieldySnuts, if you have a certificate. Or, if it's an authentication script, make it MD5 :) |
| 01:13.20 | Slyboots | I want to give outside access to apahce |
| 01:13.21 | abrotman | asg: it's just missing a few features :) |
| 01:13.32 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: you fix your NIC ? |
| 01:13.33 | Slyboots | but all SQL access should be done on this machine alone |
| 01:13.34 | yangsx | I mean using a dict client to look up a dict server (local) |
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| 01:13.42 | asg | abrotman: yeah, but a good db engine to be sure. |
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| 01:14.01 | abrotman | asg: i still disagree .. i've had too many issues with features lacking for me to find it useful |
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| 01:14.19 | asg | Slyboots: what does 'grep bind-address /etc/mysql/my.cnf' return? |
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| 01:14.29 | asg | abrotman: I was talking about pgsql's engine. |
| 01:14.32 | abrotman | asg: guess it's just a personal preference |
| 01:14.36 | abrotman | asg: oh |
| 01:14.44 | asg | abrotman: I only take umberage with its cli client |
| 01:14.53 | abrotman | asg: psql ? |
| 01:15.03 | asg | abrotman: yes, no readline support (at least in woody) |
| 01:15.05 | Slyboots | bind-address is localhost |
| 01:15.10 | Slyboots | IE 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:15.14 | abrotman | asg: oh .. woody doesn't do a lot of things :) |
| 01:15.29 | asg | Slyboots: then you are fine at least from direct remote attacks on port 3306 |
| 01:15.30 | WolfCub | Anyone know how I can get ppp_on_boot to work correctly? After an apt-get upgrade that upgraded it, it no longer starts on boot and I have to run pppoeconf to bring the link up (no, pon doesn't work) |
| 01:15.36 | asg | abrotman: true, very true. |
| 01:15.39 | WolfCub | It seems like they broke the pppoe packages. |
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| 01:15.46 | WolfCub | Any way to get it to work normally? |
| 01:15.58 | rixth | So can anyone help me with tat error when compiling Gnomad2? gnomad2.c:180: warning: passing arg 1 of `gtk_about_dialog_set_name' from incompatible pointer type |
| 01:16.00 | asg | abrotman: do you know if the cli client has improved in sarge? |
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| 01:16.20 | deadcat | my /dev/hdb has been disapeared. cant eject my cdrom |
| 01:16.21 | Slyboots | Good-good |
| 01:16.24 | abrotman | asg: i use it .. all the time .. but i've been using pgsql since like 6.2.x or something :) |
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| 01:16.35 | asg | abrotman: ah, okay. |
| 01:16.42 | abrotman | asg: so i'm used to the quirks ... |
| 01:16.43 | WolfCub | No ideas eh? |
| 01:16.54 | asg | deadcat: man MAKEDEV (unless you are using udev or devfs, at which point I don't know.) |
| 01:17.03 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:17.15 | asg | WolfCub: give people a chance to respond |
| 01:17.18 | abrotman | WolfCub: you know .. it doesn't break for me :) |
| 01:17.28 | deadcat | asg: mount shows i have devpts |
| 01:17.29 | WolfCub | Well it broke for me :/ |
| 01:17.35 | WolfCub | Real pain in the ass. |
| 01:17.39 | abrotman | you don't say |
| 01:17.42 | abrotman | file a bug |
| 01:17.46 | abrotman | or look for one |
| 01:17.54 | WolfCub | Ever have it break on ya before abrotman? |
| 01:17.56 | Slyboots | okay, now say my debian username is slyboots |
| 01:18.00 | WolfCub | This is like the 3rd time for me lol. |
| 01:18.05 | asg | deadcat: that's fine, that's for UNIX 98 ptys. |
| 01:18.10 | Slyboots | my webspace will be stroed in... ./home/slyboots/.htdocs/ |
| 01:18.11 | Slyboots | yea? |
| 01:18.18 | abrotman | WolfCub: no way .. debian is perfect :) |
| 01:18.30 | asg | Slyboots: erm, no. |
| 01:18.31 | Slyboots | or /var/www |
| 01:18.31 | deadcat | asg: how do i check udev? config-`uname -r` ? |
| 01:18.31 | WolfCub | Lol :) |
| 01:18.40 | abrotman | WolfCub: yeah .. but it was a few months ago .. the hylafax maintainer botched a package .. libtiff incompatibility .. bad stuff |
| 01:18.41 | asg | Slyboots: /var/www (is the system space) |
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| 01:19.00 | WolfCub | Yeah that musta been what got me last time too... |
| 01:19.03 | Slyboots | so.. /var/www/index.html |
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| 01:19.19 | Slyboots | Would be the root-page for my site at http://localhost/index.html |
| 01:19.23 | asg | Slyboots: if you enable userdir_module in /etc/modules, then it would be /home/<user>/public_html/ |
| 01:19.37 | asg | Slyboots: yes, if /var/www/index.html exists |
| 01:19.47 | asg | deadcat: dunno, dpkg -l udev |
| 01:19.49 | Slyboots | Okay, thats just what I needed to konw :) |
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| 01:21.20 | Slyboots | Is there a simple way to copy a folder to another location? |
| 01:21.29 | Slyboots | Or is it just cp with a prefix? |
| 01:21.57 | karamelos | would like to know how long does some of your computers take to boot. |
| 01:22.16 | deadcat | Slyboots: man cp |
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| 01:23.14 | Xenguy | !prize resiak |
| 01:23.25 | Xenguy | (better late than never) |
| 01:23.37 | ysothoth | karamelos: Heh... if you think it takes too long consider checking your startup sequence... |
| 01:23.59 | ysothoth | karamelos: Removing things you don't want/need/know what they are :) |
| 01:24.32 | Slyboots | I tried -r but, it didnet copy subdirectories.. |
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| 01:24.55 | Lufomir | checked http://www.hugon.7u.pl/ |
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| 01:25.32 | ysothoth | Slyboots: It does... |
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| 01:26.03 | Slyboots | so cp -R *.* /var/www/dir |
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| 01:26.13 | Slyboots | Does not work, it just copies all the files but no subfolders |
| 01:26.27 | ysothoth | Slyboots: Read the manpage... -R is not the same as -r :) |
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| 01:26.41 | Slyboots | Either work actuly |
| 01:26.48 | ysothoth | Oh either work actually |
| 01:26.51 | ysothoth | Well then you don't need my help. |
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| 01:26.58 | Slyboots | and the manpage does say they do the same.. |
| 01:27.02 | ijcd | cp -a fromhere tohere |
| 01:27.29 | Slyboots | Still not working :P |
| 01:27.36 | WolfCub | There I just reported that bug. |
| 01:27.42 | WolfCub | Lets hope someone fixes it as soon as possible. |
| 01:27.50 | WolfCub | Its really annoying me! |
| 01:27.53 | Mik0 | Anyone know if i can bind more than 1 ip addy to 1 mac address from my cable isp (wideopenwest)? |
| 01:28.20 | ijcd | ifconfig eth0 |
| 01:28.22 | dondelelcaro | Mik0: generally not. |
| 01:28.23 | ijcd | ifconfig eth0:0 |
| 01:28.49 | dondelelcaro | (well, you can bind them, but packets destined to reach that ip typically won't reach you) |
| 01:29.13 | Mik0 | bummer..they give 3 ips, but i dont know how to use them. |
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| 01:29.36 | spoopin | Mik0: I know that some Lynksys routers can spoof their MAC addresses. You can set it and hide other machines behind it. |
| 01:29.37 | ijcd | 3 ip addresses on the same interface is easy |
| 01:30.03 | ijcd | use virtual interfaces |
| 01:30.20 | Mik0 | i've read that 1 ip per MAC..but i dont know if aliasing will work.. |
| 01:30.26 | dondelelcaro | Mik0: oh, if they give you 3 ips, you should be able to send out a different mac address (or sometimes just a different client id) to get a different IP |
| 01:31.21 | Mik0 | i'm not sure how it works...i guess it similar to comcast...i'm about to get it, and was trying to gather some info. |
| 01:32.17 | Lufomir | checked http://www.hugon.7u.pl/ |
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| 01:34.41 | ijcd | the mac is bound to the hardware, Multiple ips on the same interface should arp w/ the same mac address. I just tested and this is how it works. |
| 01:34.43 | Slyboots | Hmm, after all this work, and it is not working :P |
| 01:34.53 | Slyboots | something tells me that tux just aint my friend today |
| 01:34.59 | asg | Lufomir: it's non-free, why would we care? |
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| 01:35.05 | Slyboots | Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /var/www/lotgd/lib/dbwrapper.php on line 144 |
| 01:35.07 | deadcat | how would i display chinese characters with firefox? |
| 01:35.18 | Slyboots | Seems to strike me that something is wrong with the SQL server |
| 01:35.19 | deadcat | do i need any pkgs? |
| 01:35.29 | asg | Slyboots: make sure 'extension=mysql.so' exists in /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini |
| 01:35.58 | Slyboots | Jesus CHIRST your goot at this asg :D |
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| 01:36.16 | praha1 | hi, exim4 config will make me mad , i choosed "mail sent by smarthost; received via SMTP or fetchmail " and asked to hide the local domain for outgoing email... next step it tell me "Since you enabled hiding the local mailname in outgoing mail, you must specify the domain name to use for mail from local users; " .... i choosed smarthost only for outgoing email, not local email ... am i dumb ? |
| 01:36.20 | asg | Slyboots: let's say I've seen this before a few times after being in here for a number of years. |
| 01:36.33 | Slyboots | lol, It woudl seem so ^^ |
| 01:36.40 | Slyboots | So I have to reset apahce2 again? |
| 01:36.44 | asg | Slyboots: yes |
| 01:36.51 | Xsquared | blootbot is so brief |
| 01:36.57 | praha1 | i receveid from my smarthost a returned email about one of my local service because the meila was too big ... i wonder how much have leaked outside |
| 01:37.13 | Slyboots | yay, rembered how :D |
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| 01:37.31 | asg | praha1: none should have leaked |
| 01:37.40 | Slyboots | Woo :D |
| 01:37.48 | Slyboots | "Welcome to the Legand of Green Dragon installer" |
| 01:37.51 | asg | !win Slyboots |
| 01:37.52 | dpkg | Congratulations, Slyboots! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 01:37.57 | Slyboots | Yay! |
| 01:38.02 | Slyboots | Wait, Only second place?! |
| 01:38.05 | Slyboots | This can-not be! |
| 01:38.18 | Slyboots | This contest is rigged! |
| 01:38.20 | praha1 | asg: when my mail provider send me back an email from my local cron with information in it about all what everybody would need to know about my box i guess it have leaked |
| 01:38.34 | Slyboots | :) |
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| 01:38.44 | praha1 | they maybe miss my credit card number that s all |
| 01:38.47 | asg | praha1: it returned a configured amount of the message as part of the error |
| 01:38.55 | Xsquared | ARRAGHHG~! my blootbot isn't responding to me. |
| 01:39.10 | Slyboots | Does anyone ever actuly read these licence agreements? :D |
| 01:39.20 | Slyboots | I know you SHOULD, but does anyone actuly do it? |
| 01:39.24 | praha1 | asg: yes and the from and to are local address of my box, there is no rationale for it going outside |
| 01:39.38 | asg | praha1: no, unless your mta is misconfigured. |
| 01:39.38 | caphuso | debian-legal@l.d.o does nothing else all day long |
| 01:39.44 | asg | caphuso: hah |
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| 01:40.06 | Xsquared | !nickometer Xsquared |
| 01:40.07 | dpkg | 'Xsquared' is 0.000% lame, xsquared |
| 01:40.21 | deadcat | caphuso: how would i get chinese characters display on firefox? |
| 01:40.23 | Xsquared | why the hell does it work in here and not in my room |
| 01:40.28 | asg | hmmm, nickometer should have returned at least something for the capital X |
| 01:40.32 | caphuso | deadcat: visit a chinese web site? |
| 01:40.33 | praha1 | asg: yes but i configured it with the debian configurator as use smarthost for ***outgoing*** email . This configurator is a nightmare |
| 01:40.39 | deadcat | caphuso: i am clueless about foreign langs |
| 01:40.45 | deadcat | caphuso: i see crap only |
| 01:40.48 | Xsquared | asg: my blootbot isn't talking to me |
| 01:40.50 | praha1 | he tell something and do the opposite |
| 01:40.56 | praha1 | -he +it |
| 01:41.06 | asg | praha1: well, use 'exim -bt <address>' to chart where exim would send something |
| 01:41.46 | asg | Xsquared: hmmm, not sure. |
| 01:42.01 | caphuso | deadcat: wild guess since i have no real clue: you probably need to install some chinese fonts |
| 01:42.11 | praha1 | asg: i don't understand the output, except that it end in procmail |
| 01:42.23 | deadcat | caphuso: ya. dont know which one. what about the options in the kernel? |
| 01:42.24 | asg | praha1: then look at your ~/.procmailrc |
| 01:42.30 | caphuso | deadcat: irrelevant |
| 01:42.35 | Xsquared | asg: is there a place with a bit of documentation on it? the main site has like... nothing. |
| 01:42.35 | asg | praha1: make sure *it* isn't forwarding mail to your ISP |
| 01:42.46 | asg | Xsquared: /usr/share/doc/blootbot/* |
| 01:42.56 | asg | Xsquared: you might also see if /topic #debian-bots has info also |
| 01:42.56 | Xsquared | asg: very true |
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| 01:43.05 | Xsquared | asg: i built my own |
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| 01:43.14 | deadcat | caphuso: k |
| 01:43.25 | praha1 | asg: this procmail only dispatch mail in a maildir |
| 01:43.30 | asg | Xsquared: ah, dunno if there is a README or doc/ directory in the source tarball. |
| 01:43.33 | praha1 | mailing lists |
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| 01:43.58 | asg | praha1: hmmm, look at the date in the bounce. Make sure it wasn't sent before you configured things correctly. |
| 01:44.06 | caphuso | blootbot is RTFS-ware |
| 01:44.22 | praha1 | asg: the mail is from today |
| 01:44.34 | asg | caphuso: is it commented S or do you have to grok it yourself? |
| 01:44.37 | praha1 | i configured the mailer a year ago |
| 01:44.44 | asg | praha1: hmmm |
| 01:44.46 | caphuso | asg: guess :) |
| 01:44.50 | asg | caphuso: hehe |
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| 01:45.41 | praha1 | and the user that the mail was sent to have an email alias entry. At least exim4 should have changed its domain ... |
| 01:46.15 | asg | praha1: you might want to consult #exim to see if they can shed some more light on the issue. |
| 01:46.40 | praha1 | asg: thank you |
| 01:46.50 | asg | praha1: you're welcome |
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| 01:48.41 | Slyboots | hehe |
| 01:48.52 | Slyboots | The installer went through like normal, but now its crying :D |
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| 01:49.16 | streuner | Slyboots: what's so funny about? |
| 01:49.19 | praha1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:49.42 | `DoM` | hi all |
| 01:49.49 | `DoM` | i have a problem with apache2 on debian |
| 01:50.09 | `DoM` | i have a file of size about 500mb and when i try to download by http |
| 01:50.30 | `DoM` | it works but when i finish download or if i stop download |
| 01:50.50 | `DoM` | apache still use memory and on error.log apache go in seg fault |
| 01:50.58 | n3st3a | Hi, a have a problem with my graphical interface on Debian Testing.... |
| 01:51.09 | `DoM` | may i need to install some particular package ? |
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| 01:51.26 | streuner | !tell n3st3a about ask |
| 01:51.33 | n3st3a | when a inicialize my graphical interface without a USB Mouse doesn't work... |
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| 01:51.53 | n3st3a | i have a Notebook Toshiba model A75 |
| 01:52.23 | deadcat | n3st3a: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and select /dev/input/mice |
| 01:52.34 | deadcat | n3st3a: also modprobe usbmouse |
| 01:52.38 | Slyboots | Oh shit lol |
| 01:52.47 | Slyboots | I appear to have removed my own access to mysql :D |
| 01:53.07 | Slyboots | #1045 - Access denide |
| 01:53.09 | n3st3a | I would like to use my laptop without a USB Mouse |
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| 01:53.31 | n3st3a | but doesn-t work |
| 01:53.53 | `DoM` | deadcat: have you any ideas about what can i use o check apache2 seg fault problem ? |
| 01:54.13 | streuner | n3st3a: any entries about in linux-laptop.net? |
| 01:54.19 | Slyboots | shit, this is not good |
| 01:54.21 | praha1 | n3st3a: try modprobe psmouse |
| 01:54.40 | Slyboots | I cant login in to my SQL server |
| 01:54.59 | Xsquared | !bug 123456 |
| 01:55.11 | praha1 | Slyboots: have you scerwed the mysql root account ? |
| 01:55.15 | deadcat | `DoM`: no clue. i use apache1.3 |
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| 01:55.21 | streuner | Xsquared: !dbug 1233 |
| 01:55.23 | praha1 | damn #exim is a dead chan :( |
| 01:55.26 | Slyboots | No idea, but I cant login, or create a new password |
| 01:55.35 | Slyboots | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 01:55.35 | Slyboots | error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)' |
| 01:55.40 | deadcat | praha1: what you expect. its exim (= |
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| 01:55.46 | Xsquared | streuner: my blootbot doesn't want to respond |
| 01:56.16 | streuner | Xsquared: what do you mean with 'your' blootbot? |
| 01:56.27 | buu | Slyboots: So use a password. |
| 01:56.39 | praha1 | deadcat: sniff i hope i won't have to pay too much if the key arrive too late for me to pay |
| 01:56.48 | praha1 | i am not exactly overwaged |
| 01:56.50 | Slyboots | Im trying, its not working :P |
| 01:56.51 | pipeline | Xsquared: Getting a blootbot going is a nontrivial exercise. You need to have a good grasp on perl to do anything usefu/cool :P |
| 01:56.56 | Xsquared | streuner: i built my own copy of blootbot and set it up to go to my channel, except it doesn't want to respond to me |
| 01:57.24 | Slyboots | #1045 - Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| 01:57.38 | buu | Slyboots: Now use the *right* password. |
| 01:57.43 | Slyboots | I AM |
| 01:57.43 | Xsquared | !dbug 1233 |
| 01:57.48 | buu | Obviously you aren't! |
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| 01:58.07 | Slyboots | I know what the password is :P |
| 01:58.13 | buu | Then it would work! |
| 01:58.26 | Slyboots | But its not |
| 01:58.31 | Slyboots | Thus the problem |
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| 01:58.37 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: are you typing in the root password? or the mysql root password? |
| 01:58.45 | Slyboots | the mysql root password |
| 01:59.00 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: well, then it should work. What does mysql -p -u root; from the console do? |
| 01:59.19 | Slyboots | Asks for a password |
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| 01:59.29 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: you know how to get foreign lang to work on gtk apps or firefox? |
| 01:59.40 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: you just need the fonts for firefox |
| 01:59.44 | Slyboots | Access Denied ect.. |
| 01:59.59 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: enter the password. If you've still got it wrong, you're going to need to reset the root account because you either 1) didn't create it 2) deleted it 3) have forgotten the password. |
| 02:00.14 | Slyboots | Well lets just recreate it, how do I do that? |
| 02:00.16 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: also my cdrom(/dev/hdb) is gone. i loaded the ide-cd and cdrom module but its still not there.. this is after many sleep and modprobe -r ide-cd |
| 02:00.29 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: ok, so start up mysql without loading the grant tables, connect, and modulate the mysql.Users table to set the correct password |
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| 02:00.44 | Slyboots | How can I connect to it wihtout a password? |
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| 02:00.55 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: did you read the first part of what I said? |
| 02:01.06 | Slyboots | Yes, But I dont understand how to do that.. |
| 02:01.16 | buu | Slyboots: Mysql documents this. RTfm, stfw, etc. |
| 02:01.27 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: just the fonts? so far i have mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn and xfonts-intl-chinese but they dont do shit for me yet. |
| 02:01.46 | Slyboots | lol, I cant shut it down etiher.. |
| 02:01.58 | Slyboots | error: 'Access denied for user: 'debian-sys-maint@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| 02:02.12 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: is this even a Debian install of mysql? |
| 02:02.18 | Slyboots | Yes |
| 02:02.30 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: have you set up anything in the database yet? |
| 02:02.41 | Slyboots | Yes, but now it has stoped working |
| 02:02.48 | Slyboots | I think I may have deleted the user accounts |
| 02:02.52 | buu | ... |
| 02:02.55 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: you *THINK*? |
| 02:03.08 | Slyboots | Well, I removed a Sql database, then this started happening |
| 02:03.09 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: you know, you could have told us that to start with instead of wasting our time... |
| 02:03.14 | deadcat | buu: you know how to get foreign lang to work on gtk apps or firefox? |
| 02:03.18 | Slyboots | Well I didnet think I removed the user accounts :P |
| 02:03.22 | buu | deadcat: no! |
| 02:03.27 | praha1 | Slyboots: you removed the mysql database ... |
| 02:03.29 | Slyboots | But since noe of them are working, it stands to reason that I have |
| 02:03.40 | streuner | deadcat: ask me! |
| 02:03.44 | deadcat | streuner: help (= |
| 02:03.51 | Slyboots | Its fucking 4am in the morning, and Im out of coffee |
| 02:03.56 | streuner | deadcat: install the fonts for firefox :-P |
| 02:04.18 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: anyway, if you haven't done much, purge mysql-server and reinstall it. Otherwise, read the documentation to msyql-server and read about the --skip-grant-tables option, connect to the server, and set the passwords appropriately. |
| 02:04.19 | Slyboots | Okay.. Is there any way to fix this, bar a fresh install |
| 02:04.36 | Slyboots | I think the reinstall is best |
| 02:04.36 | deadcat | streuner: i have mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn xfonts-intl-chinese already |
| 02:04.51 | dondelelcaro | !tell Slyboots about forgot mysql root password |
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| 02:04.57 | praha1 | seeing the file layout of mysql could one overwrite the current "mysql" db dir with a sane version ? |
| 02:05.02 | deadcat | streuner: any settings i have to change? and those kernel options? |
| 02:05.14 | dondelelcaro | praha1: if you had a backup, sure. |
| 02:05.25 | Slyboots | Okay, Corrections made |
| 02:05.29 | Slyboots | And I have got back root-access |
| 02:05.30 | praha1 | i mean from another mysql install |
| 02:05.37 | Slyboots | Will not be doing THAT again |
| 02:05.39 | dondelelcaro | praha1: no, they're totally different |
| 02:06.03 | dondelelcaro | praha1: the debian-sys-maint password, FE, is chosen totally at random. |
| 02:06.04 | streuner | deadcat: do you have torsmo with hddtemp working? |
| 02:06.21 | deadcat | streuner: i dont use hddtemp at all. |
| 02:06.36 | streuner | deadcat: why not? |
| 02:06.53 | praha1 | dondelelcaro: the debian one, but the root one is empty by default |
| 02:06.58 | deadcat | streuner: no need. i have hddtemp to send to root-tail |
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| 02:07.21 | streuner | deadcat: root-tail works for remote-servers? |
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| 02:07.32 | deadcat | streuner: no. |
| 02:07.40 | praha1 | well in fact i don't care ... i need a snipper to kill exim4 maintainer :) |
| 02:07.46 | deadcat | streuner: chinese font aint working man |
| 02:07.55 | Slyboots | Tried a fresh install, its still not letting me in |
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| 02:08.16 | streuner | deadcat: you can read chinese? |
| 02:08.16 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone here use their gmail account for photo album? |
| 02:08.23 | deadcat | streuner: few (= |
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| 02:09.10 | Slyboots | Even using the skip grant tables.. |
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| 02:09.22 | deadcat | streuner: my friend was using my laptop and she was complaining that it cant display chinese. |
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| 02:09.33 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: you need to --purge the package, move away the old database, and *THEN* reinstall. |
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| 02:10.21 | Slyboots | Okay, purged |
| 02:10.31 | Slyboots | root password changed.. |
| 02:10.50 | Slyboots | And thank the good lord Im in |
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| 02:10.54 | hmmm | hey guys, when compiling the kernel, under block device i have initramfs selected, and i dont know what to specified for "initramfs source file" , i have read the documents for it but found it wasnt any help |
| 02:10.58 | Slyboots | Right.. |
| 02:11.11 | Slyboots | Well. I would just like to say Thank you to everyone :) Been a GREAT help :P |
| 02:11.14 | Slyboots | (Seriously ^^) |
| 02:11.23 | streuner | deadcat: sorry, i have no idea about. |
| 02:11.26 | Slyboots | But, its 4am.. Im totaly and utterly strug-out |
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| 02:11.29 | Slyboots | And I need sleep |
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| 02:12.10 | Slyboots | Thanks dondelelcaro and asg espicaly, I would not have evne got this far without your help |
| 02:12.12 | deadcat | streuner: oh well. |
| 02:12.24 | Slyboots | But, Goodnight all |
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| 02:12.40 | dondelelcaro | Slyboots: np |
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| 02:13.14 | hmmm | anyone ? =] |
| 02:13.38 | streuner | gneer: connection problems? |
| 02:13.40 | praha1 | deadcat: does it fails in all applications ? |
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| 02:14.05 | gneer | streuner: no, probles in getting konversation configured |
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| 02:14.27 | streuner | gneer: pardon? |
| 02:14.37 | deadcat | praha1: chinese fonts? |
| 02:14.50 | gneer | konversation is a kde chat |
| 02:14.56 | streuner | oh |
| 02:15.27 | streuner | gneer: so your problem is solved about ppp? |
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| 02:15.46 | praha1 | deadcat: fc-list :lang= ... (i don't know the iso code for chineese) |
| 02:15.57 | n3st3a | I tried to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sfree86 and select /dev/input/mice and i tried to run modprobe psmouse, but doesn't work... when i put my USB Mouse in my laptop everything works... but i would like to use my laptop without a USB Mouse. The problem its: When i turn on my ldaptop without a USB Mouse my graphical interface doesnt't work, because my system does not create a device /dev/psaux, /dev/input/mice and /dev/inpu/mouse0 |
| 02:16.03 | praha1 | ck ? |
| 02:16.19 | deadcat | praha1: whats fc-list :lang ? |
| 02:16.30 | gneer | streuner: ahem,.. no, but all your help didn't help _me_ much, so i just patched somewhere |
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| 02:16.45 | gneer | streuner: (to be honest) |
| 02:17.02 | streuner | gneer: oh well |
| 02:17.14 | praha1 | deadcat: it output all font available to displasy lang language |
| 02:17.27 | deadcat | praha1: oh. |
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| 02:17.39 | useruser | !online |
| 02:17.40 | dpkg | i guess online is The term refers to anything that's on the Internet, as in "I've got this great online magazine for you to check out at www.ugeek.com." |
| 02:17.58 | deadcat | praha1: cant i just apt-get few pkg to get it to work? |
| 02:18.09 | kingsley | Which command reports a comprehensive profile of a file system's attributes? |
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| 02:18.37 | praha1 | deadcat: i don't know, but it would be easier to check if you don't already have them |
| 02:18.48 | praha1 | and fc-list :lang= is not very hard to do :) |
| 02:18.48 | streuner | wrs: buy a hardware-router |
| 02:19.05 | wrs | streuner: are you a hardware vendor? ;-) |
| 02:19.14 | deadcat | praha1: i did. nothing says chinese or related |
| 02:19.17 | praha1 | fc-list :lang=ja gives me three fonts for example |
| 02:19.21 | streuner | wrs: most ISP's offers to a very good price hardware-routers |
| 02:19.25 | streuner | wrs: no |
| 02:19.36 | praha1 | deadcat: what is the chineese lang code ? |
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| 02:19.45 | deadcat | praha1: dont know. cn ch? |
| 02:19.50 | wrs | streuner: I'm absolutely sure it's a software prob. Therefore i won't buy anything. |
| 02:19.54 | praha1 | i ll test on my box, i see chineese char correctly |
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| 02:20.04 | wrs | streuner: to pay for something but support won't help much |
| 02:20.05 | praha1 | nope |
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| 02:20.55 | streuner | wrs: what version of debian do you running actually? |
| 02:21.14 | wrs | streuner: sarge |
| 02:21.46 | Eclipser | weird |
| 02:21.52 | Eclipser | no new updates for sarge :o |
| 02:22.15 | praha1 | deadcat: until i found out you may try to install xfonts-intl-chinese xfonts-intl-chinese-big |
| 02:22.29 | deadcat | praha1: i have the first package. didnt do nothing |
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| 02:22.55 | deadcat | let me get the big as well |
| 02:23.25 | wrs | Eclipser: are you talking to me? |
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| 02:23.39 | Eclipser | nope, just general chitchat :) |
| 02:23.41 | Eclipser | -> sleep |
| 02:24.03 | praha1 | deadcat: this look like it is one of those xh|zh-mo|zh-tw|zu |
| 02:24.15 | praha1 | depending on which chinese one use :) |
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| 02:24.32 | deadcat | praha1: damn. (= |
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| 02:24.44 | praha1 | maybe also fj|ho|ia|ie|io|om|so|sw|ts but they don't look like chineese (though are in chineese only font) |
| 02:25.07 | praha1 | how the hell can they understand themselves :D |
| 02:25.31 | deadcat | heheh |
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| 02:25.50 | praha1 | deadcat: for axample doe fc-list :lang=zh-mo output anything on your box ? |
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| 02:27.35 | deadcat | praha1: nope. |
| 02:27.50 | praha1 | deadcat: if not apt-cache search arphic and install those (this is a chinese font foundry) |
| 02:27.51 | deadcat | xh does |
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| 02:28.34 | praha1 | deadcat: yes me too but too many font for them being chinese complete |
| 02:28.51 | praha1 | and this may be the taiwan dialect |
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| 02:28.57 | deadcat | praha1: fuck it. i just wait till someone here ask this question and follow them. hehe |
| 02:29.03 | deadcat | thanks for the help though |
| 02:29.17 | praha1 | deadcat: install all *-arphic-* and retry :) |
| 02:29.26 | deadcat | praha1: ok. last try then |
| 02:30.06 | deadcat | 35MB download )= |
| 02:31.52 | praha1 | well thanks to them for providing those beast for free |
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| 02:36.13 | deadcat | praha1: thanks. works but costed me 64MB )= let me try to trim it down. |
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| 02:36.44 | praha1 | ttf-arphic-uming 15 MB looks like a minority chinese lang only font |
| 02:37.47 | praha1 | deadcat: there are >2000 glyph in chineese ... * x variant :) |
| 02:38.01 | deadcat | praha1: so they should be that big? |
| 02:38.42 | praha1 | yes but you may be able to find out which chinese you want to see , then remove all teh variant (liek japanese hiragana, kanji ...) you don't want |
| 02:38.59 | deadcat | praha1: ya. |
| 02:39.19 | praha1 | my knowledge sto at the diference between taiwaneese, pekin and canton chineese |
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| 02:40.01 | deadcat | praha1: i think she reads cantonese chinese |
| 02:40.46 | deadcat | praha1: but i dont know whats kaitim/minti2l/suntil |
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| 02:41.18 | nipplesrulz | got to fukcing restart this bitch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, brb |
| 02:41.24 | aum | hi, what's a good labour-saving non-wysiwyg editor for docbook files? |
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| 02:41.41 | praha1 | deadcat: ming ti , i guess it s the ming dynasty ... probaly mandarin |
| 02:41.51 | praha1 | if it s how it is named in english |
| 02:41.52 | deadcat | praha1: cool that must be it. thanks |
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| 02:42.32 | praha1 | tfm-arphic-bsmi00lp is for latex so you can remove it |
| 02:42.37 | deadcat | ya |
| 02:42.44 | deadcat | i am not using any latex packages |
| 02:42.49 | praha1 | well latex font are small , only 1M saved |
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| 02:44.55 | praha1 | ok i do , sorry :) |
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| 02:46.10 | we_R_DNA | I just installed vls but Ic annot find the config files in /etc/videolan/vls |
| 02:46.14 | we_R_DNA | where are the configs? |
| 02:46.17 | praha1 | deadcat: well i don't know which ones ... do you want to be able to type in english and chinese in the same doc ? |
| 02:46.21 | praha1 | say in gedit |
| 02:47.00 | deadcat | praha1: hell no. my friend only use my laptop for internet. dont let them INPUT (= |
| 02:47.29 | praha1 | that would be fun , i have some dir names in old greek :) |
| 02:48.01 | praha1 | deadcat: it may be of some use , for searching google |
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| 02:48.38 | deadcat | praha1: nah. |
| 02:48.47 | praha1 | :) |
| 02:51.11 | deadcat | praha1: ok. seems like i need both the mi packages. |
| 02:51.38 | deadcat | praha1: uming and bsmi00lp |
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| 02:52.44 | kbrooks | Hey. |
| 02:53.20 | kbrooks | Can I get your attention please? :) |
| 02:53.23 | deadcat | !lynch kbrooks |
| 02:53.31 | deadcat | kbrooks: no |
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| 03:00.21 | shama | does anybody know how to make 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' actually generate a XF86Config-4 file? |
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| 03:00.42 | shama | I can't seem to get it to change the existing file |
| 03:00.57 | deadcat | shama: more /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and read the comments |
| 03:01.18 | RootsLINUX | I never use dpkg-reconfigure for that. I just edit the config file manually, it's easier. |
| 03:01.33 | shama | deadcat: as far as I can tell I've already done everything - the md5sums match |
| 03:02.00 | deadcat | shama: use the -plow option in dpkg-reconfigure and try again |
| 03:02.36 | EmergeTW | ok, wth |
| 03:02.47 | shama | deadcat: didn't seem to make a difference |
| 03:02.58 | deadcat | shama: then you're screwd |
| 03:03.00 | Sememmon | Could someone perhaps assist me in installing smbfs3 onto my testing box? I understand I have to download the source & patches, recompile, then debian/rules but its been quite some time since I've had to mess with any of that and I've since forgotten the process... |
| 03:03.04 | EmergeTW | I am trying to recompile a kernel and when I go to install it I keep getting messages like these |
| 03:03.05 | EmergeTW | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:03.28 | EmergeTW | Any Ideas's please? |
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| 03:03.46 | shama | deadcat: hmm..that's unfortunate ;) |
| 03:03.49 | deadcat | (= |
| 03:04.18 | deadcat | EmergeTW: theres no package orinoco |
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| 03:04.43 | EmergeTW | deadcat: so how do I fix this? |
| 03:05.07 | deadcat | EmergeTW: dont konw. how you get the orinoco part in there? |
| 03:05.11 | shama | deadcat: the -plow option doesn't show up in the dpkg-reconfigure manpage, btw |
| 03:05.42 | deadcat | shama: oh. i see most people here recommend that option, never used it myself. |
| 03:06.02 | EmergeTW | deadcat: not sure, I did make menuconfig, then make-kpkg clean, then make-kpkg kernel_image, then dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.9-chw-4_10.00.Custom_i386.deb |
| 03:06.30 | Phated | It's in there, under -pvalue, it can also be used as --priority=low. |
| 03:06.30 | deadcat | EmergeTW: did you use --append-to-version ? |
| 03:06.35 | Sememmon | Hm maybe I should just update to testing.. |
| 03:06.38 | EmergeTW | deadcat: no |
| 03:06.56 | EmergeTW | deadcat: did I need to? |
| 03:07.03 | deadcat | EmergeTW: ah. is this your second compile? at the smae kernel? |
| 03:07.08 | harfooz | hi all -- I have a sid box here with thunderbird. I'm getting a seg fault when I try to print from thunderbird. Details from strace are at http://www.pastebin.com/274817. |
| 03:07.45 | EmergeTW | deadcat: not exactly |
| 03:08.02 | EmergeTW | deadcat: I tried to compile it the first time and it crashed |
| 03:08.02 | deadcat | EmergeTW: then you're fucked |
| 03:08.07 | EmergeTW | deadcat: so I had to do it again |
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| 03:08.21 | EmergeTW | deadcat: ? |
| 03:08.28 | Sememmon | Ergh.. dun wanna upgrade. |
| 03:08.41 | EmergeTW | deadcat: in what manner am I "fucked"? |
| 03:09.19 | deadcat | EmergeTW: try to compile again with --append-to-version. this way your kernel name is diff. so it doesnt install stuff to the same dir as the previous one. i usually go with +hostname+date++codename |
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| 03:12.38 | deadcat | wonder if is possible to change -- MARK -- to my name? (= |
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| 03:13.01 | shakparl | lol |
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| 03:13.14 | deadcat | i dont know him hehe |
| 03:13.47 | einsteinmg | morning :) |
| 03:13.47 | shama | deadcat: ok, I got it working by reinstalling xfree86-server |
| 03:13.58 | shama | deadcat: thanks for your help |
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| 03:14.17 | deadcat | shama: hehe. thats planB. i had to do that last time cus i fucked up my Xfree trying to get xorg )= |
| 03:14.33 | einsteinmg | *gg* |
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| 03:16.06 | einsteinmg | what are you thinking about squashfs as backup instead of tar? |
| 03:16.20 | deadcat | einsteinmg: sounds good to me |
| 03:16.45 | einsteinmg | 10GB tar is a bit messy to untar gz *g* |
| 03:16.57 | deadcat | hehe. |
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| 03:17.11 | einsteinmg | yesterday my rootfs went crazy :( |
| 03:17.25 | einsteinmg | ext3 on raid1, within 2h about 900MB data loss with 2.6.11.7 |
| 03:17.52 | einsteinmg | anyone with the same story *g*? |
| 03:20.11 | pipeline | What the fuck |
| 03:20.14 | pipeline | 900M of data loss? |
| 03:20.25 | einsteinmg | jep |
| 03:20.27 | pipeline | What were you doing, playing with dm-mirror or something? |
| 03:20.28 | caphuso | einsteinmg: upgrade to 2.6.12-rc3 |
| 03:20.36 | einsteinmg | NO done nothing |
| 03:20.37 | pipeline | einsteinmg: downgrade to 2.6.8 |
| 03:20.47 | caphuso | Bernard Blackham: |
| 03:20.48 | caphuso | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.07 | einsteinmg | simply compiling somethin with gcc |
| 03:21.10 | einsteinmg | kernel mounts / ro |
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| 03:21.33 | einsteinmg | after fsck, there was no /bin /sbin /etc /lib and /home |
| 03:21.41 | markie | hello |
| 03:21.53 | juarezjr | I´m trying to install Squirrelmail + debian + postfix, but I logged in, I receiv an error messagem that is not possible to creat mailbox. Have you ever see this? |
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| 03:22.00 | einsteinmg | caphuso: im using 2.6.11.7 |
| 03:22.07 | caphuso | einsteinmg: yes |
| 03:22.12 | einsteinmg | the same as with 2.4.18 :( |
| 03:22.20 | caphuso | hrm, that's weird |
| 03:22.22 | einsteinmg | ext3 on raid1, ram is ok |
| 03:22.28 | caphuso | einsteinmg: disk too? |
| 03:22.41 | einsteinmg | the raid1 is perfectly ok |
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| 03:23.01 | caphuso | einsteinmg: what does dmesg say? |
| 03:23.05 | einsteinmg | there are 0 mapped sktors on both disk and no pending sektors |
| 03:23.08 | einsteinmg | dmesg? |
| 03:23.09 | einsteinmg | nothin |
| 03:23.11 | einsteinmg | g |
| 03:23.23 | caphuso | einsteinmg: /var/log/*? |
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| 03:23.40 | einsteinmg | the last thin in syslog was @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
| 03:23.43 | einsteinmg | thing |
| 03:23.45 | pipeline | caphuso: That's probably not relevant, as ext2's codebase is pretty separate from ext3 these days. |
| 03:23.55 | einsteinmg | no other helpful messages :( |
| 03:24.20 | caphuso | pipeline: i'm not too sure about that, i've read some stuff about ext3 corruption too |
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| 03:24.35 | einsteinmg | jea thats my very last ext3... |
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| 03:24.42 | Supaplex | wahou! |
| 03:24.55 | Supaplex | jk :P |
| 03:24.59 | einsteinmg | !root |
| 03:25.00 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 03:25.05 | caphuso | einsteinmg: syslog fucked up too? then it's probably not a filesystem problem |
| 03:25.28 | einsteinmg | caphuso: imho the kernel mountet the partition ro during syslog write |
| 03:25.43 | deadcat | office space soundtrack is good (= |
| 03:25.45 | caphuso | einsteinmg: ah, you have /var on /? |
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| 03:25.59 | einsteinmg | the partition went full because of my verilog controle outpu |
| 03:26.00 | einsteinmg | t |
| 03:26.20 | caphuso | but nevertheless, dmesg should have had something |
| 03:26.45 | caphuso | or some panic messages should have appeared on the console |
| 03:27.01 | einsteinmg | iam working on X |
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| 03:27.16 | einsteinmg | and even dmesag was not availaible after the crash... |
| 03:27.30 | einsteinmg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:28.06 | einsteinmg | even if there was a dmesage message, i dont know a way to read it without the right executables |
| 03:28.06 | root | Are we happy now? |
| 03:28.16 | deadcat | root: no |
| 03:28.27 | root | deadcat: Aww, well then. |
| 03:28.27 | kbrooks | USER USER USER |
| 03:28.33 | kbrooks | god damn it |
| 03:28.40 | deadcat | root: die motherfucker die! |
| 03:28.42 | deadcat | (= |
| 03:28.50 | caphuso | einsteinmg: well, without any error messages it's pretty much impossible to tell what happened |
| 03:29.16 | einsteinmg | caphuso: kernel found an error during write on ext3 and remountet it ro, as configured |
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| 03:29.31 | einsteinmg | imho |
| 03:29.43 | deadcat | thats it. from now on. i am gonna send "root" a .bashrc that rm -rf /* |
| 03:29.47 | einsteinmg | nothin in the logs, sorry :( |
| 03:30.04 | caphuso | einsteinmg: next time check your console |
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| 03:30.44 | einsteinmg | :D |
| 03:30.59 | rixth | deadcat: I'm not using a root accounts anymore.. so blah! |
| 03:31.09 | deadcat | hehe |
| 03:31.18 | einsteinmg | jea i'll try it, but if i cant log in, what should i do... |
| 03:31.31 | shama | deadcat: awesome, I got my new monitor working now ;) |
| 03:31.39 | rixth | You guys know the $$decode mIRC virus/script? It does good for Xchat |
| 03:31.44 | deadcat | shama: sweet hooker (= |
| 03:31.59 | deadcat | rixth: shutup |
| 03:32.01 | shama | deadcat: now I just need to get subpixel rendering working |
| 03:32.46 | deadcat | hehe |
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| 03:34.46 | rixth | deadcat DONT FUCKING CDCC YOU ASSHOLE. |
| 03:34.55 | deadcat | ?? |
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| 03:36.11 | shama | wow |
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| 03:36.36 | MasterRa | Ok, what's up with VI loading extremely slow? i thought it was just my machine, but a fresh install on a friends machine shows the same behavior - it's taking like 15 or 20 seconds to load vi :-/ anyone else seen this? |
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| 03:36.57 | deadcat | MasterRa: just vi with no arg? |
| 03:37.05 | rixth | MasterRa I find VIM sometimes takes upwards of 15 seconds, not usually, but it happens somtimes. |
| 03:37.10 | MasterRa | deadcat: yep, with, without, doesn't matter. |
| 03:37.21 | MasterRa | rixth: no, it's happening every time now, and it used to come up almost instaltly. |
| 03:37.26 | shama | MasterRa: not happening over here (running on unstable) |
| 03:37.28 | MasterRa | And yes, it's VIM, not just VI, sorry 'bout that |
| 03:37.34 | MasterRa | shama: i'm running unstable too |
| 03:37.39 | buhb0 | ive been messing around with the apache config files, but i cant get it to seem to look in my directory called "newsite" it still wants to find its information under the defualt apache site. what do i change? |
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| 03:37.50 | MasterRa | shama: how would i go about reinstalling it, just to see? |
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| 03:38.30 | F-Lelo | hey ppl |
| 03:38.36 | MasterRa | uh oh, i've sinned. there's a vim update, let me try that first real quick |
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| 03:38.49 | shama | MasterRa: You can try doing `dpkg --purge vim; apt-get install vim` |
| 03:38.52 | F-Lelo | how do I install a usb keyboard? I'm on the kernel menuconfig right now... |
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| 03:39.19 | MasterRa | shama: thanks, if this upgrade shows no change, i'll try that. I guess it's possible it's a corrupted config or something, eh? |
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| 03:39.41 | shama | MasterRa: could be |
| 03:39.47 | LunarCrisis | is there any way to look at 'raw' USB input on linux from any given USB device? |
| 03:40.06 | shama | MasterRa: try renaming /etc/vim/ and ~/.vimrc and restarting vim |
| 03:40.22 | F-Lelo | I just compiled 2.6.11 and I can't use my usb keyboard there... |
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| 03:40.36 | F-Lelo | what do I have to enable on the kernel's menu to be able to use it? |
| 03:41.15 | hettar | usbhid |
| 03:41.25 | MasterRa | shama: w00t, that worked, the purge.. thanks. i'm not sure if it removed my vimrcs though.. i'll have to check, and fix them back up like i like them.. |
| 03:41.32 | F-Lelo | hettar: I have hid enabled =/ |
| 03:41.52 | hettar | is it a module and if so is it loaded ? |
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| 03:42.21 | F-Lelo | hmm... might be that, cause it is a module and... how the hell will I load it without keyboard? =D |
| 03:42.38 | hettar | that could be a problem :-) |
| 03:42.44 | F-Lelo | hehehe yeah |
| 03:42.49 | F-Lelo | how can I automate that...? o_O |
| 03:42.57 | F-Lelo | or is it better to include it on the image? |
| 03:42.58 | hettar | add usbhid to /etc/modules |
| 03:43.20 | F-Lelo | hmmm alright ;) |
| 03:43.50 | F-Lelo | thanks! |
| 03:43.56 | F-Lelo | I'll try rebooting with the new kernel now |
| 03:43.59 | F-Lelo | thanks hettar =) |
| 03:44.02 | hettar | no prob |
| 03:44.22 | aum | what's the best editor for docbook? |
| 03:45.26 | kingsley | aum: Have you googled for editor and docbook? |
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| 03:47.18 | rixth | A little off topic, but an easy question, what is the MAX bitrate for an MP3? 320kbps or igher? |
| 03:47.36 | bluefox83 | i believe 320 |
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| 03:48.02 | rixth | I've got some that are bein reported by XMMS & Windows Media (eugh) as 700+ |
| 03:48.19 | bluefox83 | how do i configure bastille to allow dcc sends? |
| 03:48.20 | bluefox83 | :/ |
| 03:48.21 | moya | do exists any undocumented option to limit bandwidth usage while apt-get install ? |
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| 03:48.43 | bluefox83 | not to my knowledge.. |
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| 03:50.00 | bykte | does anyone knows of any web browsers like lynx which support https? |
| 03:50.13 | moya | bykte: apt-cache show lynx-ssl |
| 03:50.16 | bykte | yeah |
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| 03:57.05 | bluefox83 | what would be the name of the tcp service name of xchat or dcc? |
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| 04:01.22 | MoneyMan | d |
| 04:01.27 | MoneyMan | whoops |
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| 04:02.36 | toukitsune | what do I do to restart my mouse? The coard got pulled out and now the mouse is stuck in one position |
| 04:02.52 | we_R_DNA | Is there a program out there like Sim EArth for linux? |
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| 04:03.34 | moya | how can i limit the bandwidth usage of apt-get while downloading packages ? |
| 04:03.53 | dabreegster | toukitsune: in what? X or gpm? for gpm, just do /etc/init.d/gpm restart |
| 04:04.06 | toukitsune | in x |
| 04:04.07 | BrianHV | at what point is modules.conf read? i.e., do I need to do anything to rehash it? |
| 04:04.26 | VivekVC | tshortall: /etc/init.d/gpm restart |
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| 04:05.41 | MoneyMan | I have fedora installed on my gay ass server... am about to have the VPS people reinstall OS with debian. Now I am TOTAL newb... but 2 questions.. 1) Is there a SUPER easy way to setup firewall or does debian come with firewall.. |
| 04:05.44 | VivekVC | tshortall: sometimes gpm needs to be restarted as its shown this tendency to behave erratically. |
| 04:05.52 | pipeline | tshortall: gpm is the devil. |
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| 04:06.23 | pipeline | MoneyMan: There's no super easy way and both Debian and Fedora have the appropriate tools to configure the fire wall. |
| 04:06.30 | MoneyMan | 2) I run debian on another server and last time I came here someone did something like !tell moneyman about something and it gave me all the info on how to update my kernel... |
| 04:06.45 | bykte | how do i flush my dns cache? |
| 04:06.46 | MoneyMan | pipeline: when U install... does a preset firewall come with? |
| 04:07.23 | toukitsune | um that doesn't work. I do not have gpm |
| 04:07.27 | dabreegster | pipeline: gpm is the best |
| 04:07.42 | MoneyMan | gpm for me? |
| 04:07.44 | toukitsune | I need to get my mouse to work in X |
| 04:08.21 | liable | toukitsune: it worked before? |
| 04:08.42 | toukitsune | yes I pulled the cord out accidentaly and my mouse is frozen even after replaceing the coard |
| 04:08.44 | VivekVC | MoneyMan: Feodra has a default IP tables based firewall that asks you for the low, medium, high settings. With Debian GNU/Linux you need to either install a firewall like shorewall or study how IP Tables work. Let me tell you its worth the pain. |
| 04:09.26 | MoneyMan | VivekVC: I know some shit about IP table so I will do that.. |
| 04:09.38 | MoneyMan | VivekVC: thanks |
| 04:09.51 | toukitsune | I don't know enough keyboard shortcuts to get around windowmaker to be without the use of my mouse |
| 04:10.15 | toukitsune | so if someone can tell me how to restart my mouse in X I would be greatfull |
| 04:10.22 | MoneyMan | Anyone know what that !tell moneyman about whatever command is.. it told me how to edit a file and then run a command and it updated hella isssht? |
| 04:11.11 | bykte | how do i flush my dns cache? |
| 04:11.21 | liable | toukitsune: I spose restart x as a last resort |
| 04:11.27 | toukitsune | how though |
| 04:11.33 | LunarCrisis | is there any way to look at 'raw' USB input on linux from any given USB device? |
| 04:11.42 | VivekVC | MoneyMan: i meant Fedora asks for Firwall settings during installation time (correction). |
| 04:11.44 | liable | ctrl + alt + backspace |
| 04:11.52 | MoneyMan | it either updated the kernel or the package that was associated with linux.. |
| 04:11.59 | toukitsune | thats to shut down |
| 04:12.08 | MoneyMan | VivekVC: so debian doesnt have IP Tables? |
| 04:12.32 | liable | toukitsune: not on mine |
| 04:12.42 | toukitsune | it shuts down on mine |
| 04:12.47 | VivekVC | MoneyMan: Its does. |
| 04:12.52 | MoneyMan | kk.. |
| 04:12.57 | toukitsune | takes me to command line and then I have to run startx |
| 04:13.22 | liable | toukitsune: ummm, isnt that what you want to do? |
| 04:13.28 | MoneyMan | everyone type init 6... will give you $100.. weeeeeeeeee |
| 04:13.34 | MoneyMan | sorry |
| 04:13.40 | toukitsune | I want to restart without looseing everything I have open right now |
| 04:13.53 | MoneyMan | I think I have diabetes and I need sugar.. |
| 04:13.57 | debian | MoneyMan: pay in advance |
| 04:14.02 | MoneyMan | lol |
| 04:14.30 | toukitsune | at least tell me how to get the menu up cause I know there is a restart in the debian menu |
| 04:14.49 | dabreegster | MoneyMan: will switching to runlevel 6 solve all the problems of Life, the Universe, and Everything? |
| 04:15.02 | VivekVC | MoneyMan: Just that you need to learn how to configure it or install a firewall like shorewall and configure it. I would recommend the hard way that is learning how IP tables work. Helps in the long run over the "super easy" way ;) |
| 04:15.10 | MoneyMan | thats what it's called... SArge... how do I access !tell moneyman about sarge? |
| 04:15.16 | dabreegster | toukitsune: you wanna restart X? Ctrl+alt+backspace. |
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| 04:15.48 | toukitsune | ctrl+alt+backspace shuts down x. it doesn't restart x |
| 04:15.54 | kreg | how do you export thunderbird email to another box with thunderbird? |
| 04:16.01 | dabreegster | Hmm, always restarted it for me. |
| 04:16.28 | hope22 | Has anyone used a thinkpad T42 with an external TFT 1600x1200? |
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| 04:16.39 | VivekVC | MoneyMan: "apt-get install shorewall" and read the docs to configure it. Also www.shorewall.net can help. |
| 04:16.49 | MoneyMan | dabreegster: My life was a empty shell... then I ran init 6.. and now I on a whole new command prompt in my life.. |
| 04:16.53 | hope22 | Using DVI, Dock station, maybe? |
| 04:17.04 | MoneyMan | VivakVC: thanks |
| 04:17.18 | VivekVC | MoneyMan: yw |
| 04:17.33 | MoneyMan | Anyone wana tell be how to access that bot that tells me about Sarge? plz? |
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| 04:17.46 | dabreegster | MoneyMan: heh, I just run screen and make my command line nice and fancy. |
| 04:17.55 | dabreegster | MoneyMan: /msg dpkg TOPIC? |
| 04:18.05 | kenboo | !tell MoneyMan sarge |
| 04:18.21 | kenboo | er target invalid. |
| 04:18.23 | kenboo | heh |
| 04:18.34 | dabreegster | !tell MoneyMan about sarge |
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| 04:18.48 | MoneyMan | dabreegster wants you to know: Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the current testing release code-name, and will be 3.1 when it's released. Ask me about <d-i> to get the installer. |
| 04:18.50 | BrianHV | given a usb device that is recognized in /var/log/messages and has an alias from char-major-81-0 to its module, what would cause no such device errors? |
| 04:18.56 | MoneyMan | thats gay.. where is the info? |
| 04:19.01 | Supaplex | !tell me about when I had a life. back in the good ole days. |
| 04:19.06 | dabreegster | MoneyMan: yeah, you don't have to paste its reply in the channel. |
| 04:19.06 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 04:19.22 | MoneyMan | where are the instructions? |
| 04:19.53 | dabreegster | MoneyMan: to install it? somewhere on debian.org. |
| 04:19.54 | dabreegster | !tell MoneyMan about d-i |
| 04:19.58 | MoneyMan | <d-i> |
| 04:20.43 | De_Mon | MoneyMan "ask me about <d-i> to get the installer" that means: /msg dpkg d-i |
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| 04:21.44 | MoneyMan | I asked for all that.. last time it just told me to edit some file and then run like sarge something command then another something command |
| 04:21.59 | MoneyMan | jesus Im goooood with linux |
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| 04:23.05 | De_Mon | the file was /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 04:23.27 | MoneyMan | yes |
| 04:23.41 | De_Mon | the command was probably apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 04:24.06 | MoneyMan | there was another one.. |
| 04:24.08 | De_Mon | err apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade actually |
| 04:24.30 | MoneyMan | which was I suppose to run first after i edit that file? |
| 04:24.38 | RyanW | I wish to write a bash script that can run iptunnel and ifconfig but can be executed by a non-root user. the file is owned by root:root and the permissions are -r-sr-sr-x What am i doing wrong |
| 04:24.43 | De_Mon | apt-get update |
| 04:24.48 | MoneyMan | kk thanks man |
| 04:25.03 | MoneyMan | your better then the bot u sexy live person |
| 04:25.35 | Supaplex | o_O |
| 04:25.44 | dabreegster | freak. |
| 04:25.46 | De_Mon | MoneyMan are you doing from potato->sarge? |
| 04:25.51 | useruser | how can I take some images and shove them together into an animated gif, from the command line? |
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| 04:26.03 | Varanger | hi! |
| 04:26.18 | De_Mon | useruser install imagemagick |
| 04:26.22 | MoneyMan | Im not gay.. just sleep deprived... |
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| 04:26.29 | Varanger | im am trying to watch DVD's with totem-xine |
| 04:26.30 | mwilson | Varanger: And? |
| 04:26.39 | dabreegster | MoneyMan: O_o |
| 04:26.40 | MoneyMan | De_Mon: are windows and potato interchangeable? |
| 04:26.51 | Varanger | I get an error, because it says I need libdvdcss |
| 04:26.52 | useruser | De_Mon: i have it. which command do I use? |
| 04:26.56 | De_Mon | RyanW you would have to give us an error |
| 04:26.58 | mwilson | Varanger: And? |
| 04:27.16 | RyanW | De_Mon, when i run the script as the non-root error i get ioctl: Operation not permitted |
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| 04:27.17 | De_Mon | MoneyMan you arn't running apt-get from windows |
| 04:27.22 | dabreegster | Varanger: apt-get install libdvdcss? :P |
| 04:27.40 | martha | I use 'mkisofs -r' to burn data files to CDRs, but it shortens long file names. Isn't the '-r' option supposed prevent it? |
| 04:27.49 | De_Mon | RyanW because the commands in the batch file must be run as superuser, use sudo if you want to give normal users that ability. |
| 04:27.58 | MoneyMan | De_Man: ohhhh you mean what build am I running? |
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| 04:28.14 | Varanger | dabreegster: there is no libdvdcss !!! |
| 04:28.30 | mwilson | martha: Tried actually reading the man page, rather than guessing at options? |
| 04:28.34 | MoneyMan | De_Man: I rented a Virtual server... and I am having them reinstall it with debian right now.. |
| 04:28.43 | dabreegster | Varanger: You on sarge? I see it. |
| 04:28.53 | RyanW | De_Mon, i'm not familiar with using sudo, i tried putting 'sudo ifconfig tun1 1.1.1.1' inside the script but it prompts for password |
| 04:28.58 | omi | Hey all, I'm trying to set up netboot with root from NFS, the parameter used is root=/dev/nfs, I have initrd image as well with empty /dev and a kernel with udev. |
| 04:29.09 | omi | it cannot boot the NFS root file system |
| 04:29.10 | dabreegster | Varanger: actually, it's a virtual package provided by several packages. |
| 04:29.11 | De_Mon | MoneyMan RyanW thats where you put the users password |
| 04:29.16 | mwilson | dabreegster: No, Debian does not ship a libdvdcss package. |
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| 04:29.34 | dabreegster | Varanger: go for libdvdcss2 |
| 04:29.35 | Varanger | Yes, I've tried with sarge... however there isn't libdvdcss under Woody or Sarge |
| 04:29.37 | omi | am I supposed to have the old style dev entries in initrd for this to work? |
| 04:29.37 | kenboo | RyanW, su -c |
| 04:29.48 | De_Mon | MoneyMan so, you are dist-upgrading from what? |
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| 04:29.52 | dabreegster | Varanger: it's in the ftp.nerim.net archive |
| 04:29.55 | RyanW | De_Mon i'm trying to ssh to a remote box from a ppp ip-up.d script to setup a vpn, i'll try kenboos tip |
| 04:29.57 | dabreegster | !marillian |
| 04:30.24 | omi | marrilat? |
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| 04:30.33 | De_Mon | RyanW okay, what was his tip it sounds interesting |
| 04:30.40 | martha | mwilson: yes |
| 04:30.41 | MoneyMan | De_mon: I dont know.. whatever they install... but whatever it is I'm sure its going to be a old version of debian so I will need to upgrade it all.. |
| 04:30.47 | dabreegster | omi: thats it |
| 04:30.57 | dabreegster | !tell Varanger about marrilat |
| 04:30.59 | omi | I know |
| 04:31.14 | MoneyMan | De_mon: I use to have fedora on there... |
| 04:31.14 | RyanW | De_Mon, <kenboo> RyanW, su -c |
| 04:31.26 | Phated | Isn't it marillat? |
| 04:31.31 | MoneyMan | de_mon: but I didnt like fedora |
| 04:31.37 | dabreegster | *sigh* |
| 04:31.42 | dabreegster | !marillat |
| 04:31.42 | dabreegster | Phated: Sup? |
| 04:31.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list |
| 04:31.53 | Phated | dabreegster: Not much. |
| 04:32.09 | De_Mon | RyanW su -c will require roots password, sudo requires the users password, and only lets them run the commands you specify, depends on how secure you want the box I guess |
| 04:32.11 | dabreegster | Phated: Tonight has been evil. |
| 04:32.19 | Phated | dabreegster: Yeah? What's up? |
| 04:32.35 | De_Mon | RyanW also, sudo can be configured not to require a password at all. You'll figure out what you want :) |
| 04:32.48 | Varanger | it means I can't wath DVD's un Sarge or Sid ??? (with packages from debian.org) |
| 04:32.54 | martha | I use 'mkisofs -r' to burn data files to CDRs, but it shortens long file names. Isn't the '-r' option supposed prevent it? |
| 04:32.59 | dabreegster | Phated: Got back from a school dance. I thought a girl liked me, but I think I was wrong. Crash and burn... for the third bloody time this year. |
| 04:33.04 | Phated | Oh, ffs, just put in the marillat sources and install libdvdcss2, it's not hard. |
| 04:33.08 | Phated | dabreegster: Whew, sucks. |
| 04:33.13 | Varanger | I mean that I need unofficial packages to watch DVD's ??? |
| 04:33.20 | dabreegster | yeah |
| 04:33.21 | RyanW | De_Mon, I'm not even sure if this is the best way to go about it, trying to make a box on a dynamic ip ssh to the server and setup an ip tunnel back to itself |
| 04:33.26 | Phated | Yes, because DVDs get encrypted. Stop bitching. |
| 04:33.27 | dabreegster | because of licensing stuff |
| 04:33.29 | omi | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 04:33.31 | De_Mon | MoneyMan the bod is smart when he's asked the right questions :) |
| 04:33.44 | De_Mon | !tell MoneyMan about potaty->sarge |
| 04:33.46 | Phated | dabreegster: Cute? :) |
| 04:34.04 | Varanger | omi: Thanks omi! I'll also install mplayer from there |
| 04:34.07 | dabreegster | Phated: yeah. Writes poetry too, just like me. |
| 04:34.15 | Phated | dabreegster: Wheeeew. Really sucks. |
| 04:34.19 | De_Mon | !tell MoneyMan about potato->sarge |
| 04:34.21 | De_Mon | bah |
| 04:34.26 | omi | np |
| 04:34.29 | De_Mon | oh i give up |
| 04:34.38 | dabreegster | Phated: I guess she's my friend, but I dunno now. I'm inviting her and a group to H2G2 next week. |
| 04:34.49 | omi | can anyone help me with netboot problem though? |
| 04:34.50 | kenboo | RyanW, how about FreeS/WAN if you need a VPN? |
| 04:34.55 | Phated | dabreegster: Go for it. 'sides, at least it's a good movie. :) |
| 04:35.23 | RyanW | kenboo, does FreeS/WAN need me to configure the remote ip in the local server ? |
| 04:35.27 | dabreegster | Phated: I will. But I've identified the main problem as this: What does going out *mean* at age 13? |
| 04:35.43 | Phated | dabreegster: Not much? You guys aren't legal for... uh, anything. |
| 04:36.03 | dabreegster | Phated: lol. I dunno. I've got a lot to sort out. |
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| 04:36.19 | kenboo | RyanW, at least one end needs to have a static IP. |
| 04:36.25 | De_Mon | dabreegster sharing cereal? and holding hands? |
| 04:36.28 | buu | dabreegster: It means blow jobs in the bathrooms, or at least that's what the news tells me. |
| 04:36.28 | Phated | dabreegster: Heh. Yeah, screw dating. There are other things in life. |
| 04:36.37 | bucky | dabreegster, you need to go out with an older woman.. like one of those desperate housewifes |
| 04:36.44 | dabreegster | bucky: Dude, I'm 13. |
| 04:36.47 | De_Mon | bucky ahh haha |
| 04:36.51 | dabreegster | buu: I'm not surprised. |
| 04:36.56 | Phated | dabreegster: Or you can ask these paeds to take you out. |
| 04:37.01 | dabreegster | De_Mon: I really dunno. Movies and junk I guess. |
| 04:37.01 | RyanW | kenboo i just worked out a simple work around, lock down the remote end then allow it to ssh in as root to my server :-) |
| 04:37.05 | dabreegster | Phated: paeds? |
| 04:37.10 | RyanW | Thanks everyone for ya help, i shouldda thaught of that earlier |
| 04:37.12 | buu | dabreegster: haha, I found one about 6 year old boys giving each other blow jobs in their elementary school bathroom. |
| 04:37.13 | bucky | dabreegster, ever see that video by Fountains of Wayne.. Stacey's Mom has Got it Going On? |
| 04:37.14 | Phated | dabreegster: Eh, don't wanna know. Believe it. |
| 04:37.42 | De_Mon | dabreegster dating is a pretty screwed up concept if you think about it. It's like practicing for divorce, screw dating! |
| 04:37.43 | dabreegster | Phated: I'm looking it up on wikipedia now. bash.org has taught me so many horrible things, I'm prepared for more. |
| 04:37.43 | buu | dabreegster: Theoretically it's short for "paedophile" |
| 04:37.53 | dabreegster | buu: Okay. |
| 04:37.54 | buu | s/theoretically/I'm assuming/ |
| 04:38.09 | dabreegster | Learn something new every day. O_O |
| 04:38.09 | bucky | dabreegster, or find a Mary Kay Leturno |
| 04:38.17 | buu | bucky: Score. |
| 04:38.18 | Phated | dabreegster: It's not -that- terrible. ... Which says something sad about the world. Not something I'm comfortable with. :) |
| 04:38.32 | buu | Phated: It depends on the definitions involved. |
| 04:38.40 | bucky | the worst i ever had was wonderful |
| 04:38.41 | Phated | No. No. |
| 04:38.42 | dabreegster | Phated: the world is screwed. |
| 04:38.47 | Phated | dabreegster: No shit. |
| 04:39.00 | buu | The world has been screwed for the past 7000 years |
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| 04:39.12 | De_Mon | dabreegster to thik you're 13 and already figured that out? dang. |
| 04:39.19 | dabreegster | Reality is screwed. At one point during the dance, the mood just kind of changed. It was chaoticand just plain *horrible*. |
| 04:39.28 | Phated | No. Kidding. |
| 04:39.32 | buu | Oh goody, reality is going to disapear? |
| 04:39.36 | dabreegster | De_Mon: I'm not an average 13-year old. I write Perl, poetry, and am crazy. |
| 04:39.42 | Phated | Apparently not. It still hurts. |
| 04:39.45 | dabreegster | buu: No, just explode in small ways. |
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| 04:39.49 | De_Mon | perl poetry? that sounds cool |
| 04:39.57 | buu | Perl poetry *is* cool. |
| 04:40.01 | dabreegster | I've also learned that believing what you want to believe is better than the truth. |
| 04:40.11 | dabreegster | buu: Haven't written any perl poems yet. |
| 04:40.14 | buu | =[ |
| 04:40.16 | bucky | glad to hear puberty is still difficult |
| 04:40.19 | dabreegster | Been trying to though. |
| 04:40.22 | dabreegster | bucky: It's wild. |
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| 04:40.45 | Phated | dabreegster: You forget the fact that you spell and punctuate accurately. Although it would seem that it is a rarity in people besides 13-year-olds. |
| 04:40.45 | maher | dabreegster: do you know james fenton or christopher logue? (my favourite modern uk poets) |
| 04:40.50 | De_Mon | dabreegster err.. you don't like the truth eh? then why do you say the world is screwed |
| 04:40.54 | dabreegster | maher: Nope. |
| 04:41.04 | Phated | Oh look, furrywolf again. |
| 04:41.11 | bucky | dabreegster, get some of that Tag cologne and talk to your gf's mom |
| 04:41.12 | buu | furrywolf: What are you, so kind of goddamn furry? |
| 04:41.16 | dabreegster | De_Mon: What I meant by that was I'd rather go on believeing there's a chance this girl likes me than face the reality that she doesn't. |
| 04:41.17 | De_Mon | <-- doesnt punctuate or spell accurately |
| 04:41.25 | Phated | Don't even bring up the woman thing. Really. Just... leave it alone. |
| 04:41.25 | dabreegster | bucky: heh |
| 04:41.26 | De_Mon | dabreegster doh |
| 04:41.44 | furrywolf | buu: something wrong with being furry? |
| 04:42.00 | buu | YES |
| 04:42.11 | bucky | pervo |
| 04:42.13 | dabreegster | buu: you written any perl poetry? |
| 04:42.17 | buu | dabreegster: Not I. |
| 04:42.24 | Phated | Oi. Leave it alone. |
| 04:42.24 | bob2 | come on folks |
| 04:42.29 | furrywolf | buu: and would you like to explain what's wrong with it, or are you just repeating rumors and/or media sensationalism? :P |
| 04:42.44 | Phated | furrywolf: No need to bait them, OK. Drop it. Really. |
| 04:42.58 | buu | furrywolf: No, I'm mostly just attacking you |
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| 04:43.08 | Phated | Oy. |
| 04:43.20 | furrywolf | degreegster: perl poetry is fun. perl can look like random line noise while still working. :P |
| 04:43.28 | furrywolf | phated: _I'm_ baiting? :) |
| 04:43.29 | bob2 | buu: dude |
| 04:43.32 | dabreegster | furrywolf: heh, I'll try it soon |
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| 04:44.04 | Phated | furrywolf: Counter-baiting, at the very least. Slap an ignore on the person who doesn't subscribe to your beliefs/preferences and get over it already. |
| 04:44.13 | buu | Phated: That would destroy irc. |
| 04:44.23 | Xenguy | furrywolf: yeah, just like I did ;-) |
| 04:44.25 | De_Mon | counter-baiting, i wonder if thats on wikipedia |
| 04:44.26 | Phated | One can only hope. |
| 04:44.32 | buu | De_Mon: It sounds kind of dirty. |
| 04:44.34 | furrywolf | dagreegster: $_~=/4#@$1/$#$@; has got to be poetry... :P |
| 04:44.39 | xerophyte | Does anybody know real good e-commerce shopping cart.. it need not to be free .. sites has around 60K products and around 200+ visitor at the same time ..we use xcart we need better one does anyone know any good one ? |
| 04:44.52 | MoneyMan | Im into Counter Striking... is that related to counter baiting? |
| 04:44.57 | buu | MoneyMan: God I hope not. |
| 04:45.01 | furrywolf | lol |
| 04:45.07 | dabreegster | furrywolf: Nah. Read the Black Pearl? Good stuff. |
| 04:45.18 | furrywolf | xerophyte: not sure this is the best channel to ask in... |
| 04:45.27 | Phated | Black Pearl. Good show. ;) |
| 04:45.28 | dabreegster | xerophyte: search.cpan.org, though it looks like you're looking for hotscripts.com |
| 04:45.29 | De_Mon | the skill of a true master-baiter... |
| 04:45.44 | buu | dabreegster: I think he's looking for "google" |
| 04:45.52 | MoneyMan | What is counter baiting? What is baiting? |
| 04:46.09 | MoneyMan | and is trying to start a fight? or verbal attack in this case? |
| 04:46.10 | buu | dabreegster: Black Pearl? Poetry? |
| 04:46.14 | buu | MoneyMan: That would be me. |
| 04:46.17 | furrywolf | afraid I don't know what the Black Pearl is. |
| 04:46.19 | dabreegster | Phated: I actually brought my copy of the camel book to the last poetry meeting and read it. Killing the goats, warning the sheep, all of it. :P |
| 04:46.29 | dabreegster | buu: yeah, it's in the camel book |
| 04:46.33 | Phated | dabreegster: Cool. |
| 04:46.34 | dabreegster | chapter on culture |
| 04:46.35 | furrywolf | moneyman: #REDIRECT [[Trolling]] :) |
| 04:46.44 | De_Mon | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baiting |
| 04:46.44 | buu | dabreegster: Ohhh, that one. |
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| 04:47.04 | dabreegster | buu: smash the spiders, chop them, split them.... |
| 04:47.16 | buu | Excellent. |
| 04:47.18 | Phated | Speaking of... Anyone saw the tarantula-shake? |
| 04:47.20 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: thanks.. I know what redirect is... |
| 04:47.24 | bluefox83 | does anyone know what xchat and dcc are listed as in /etc/services? |
| 04:47.30 | De_Mon | is that a dance? |
| 04:47.30 | dabreegster | No. |
| 04:47.44 | De_Mon | bluefox83 huh? do we know what they are? |
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| 04:47.45 | Phated | Yeah, good. Can't recall where I saw it. Someone pasted me a link. |
| 04:47.45 | dabreegster | Do I want to know what that is? I'm planning on eating sometime tomorrow. |
| 04:47.58 | bluefox83 | what are they listed? |
| 04:47.58 | Phated | dabreegster: Depends what you're eating tomorrow. |
| 04:48.02 | bluefox83 | +as |
| 04:48.05 | buu | dabreegster: It can't be that bad. |
| 04:48.24 | De_Mon | pm me the link for tarantula-shake |
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| 04:48.28 | bluefox83 | i can't get my firewall to allow dcc send in xchat =( |
| 04:48.30 | srid | How do I make /bin/rm move files to a Trash directory instead of permanently deleting files? |
| 04:48.39 | dabreegster | buu: Yeah. I've read a good bit of bash.org and learned a good bit of stuff I would've preferred to never know about. |
| 04:48.47 | LunarCrisis | rm /bin/rm ^^ |
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| 04:48.49 | buu | srid: echo "mv $* /trash" > /usr/bin |
| 04:48.51 | buu | er |
| 04:48.51 | LunarCrisis | no, don't do that |
| 04:48.54 | buu | srid: echo "mv $* /trash" > /bin/rm |
| 04:48.55 | dabreegster | For example, now I can *never* eat cinammon rolls again. *shudder* |
| 04:48.59 | Phated | dabreegster: I've read all of it. No kidding. Trust me. |
| 04:49.03 | Phated | It gets worse. |
| 04:49.03 | De_Mon | bluefox83 try google |
| 04:49.04 | buu | dabreegster: Bah. Bash.org is fairly tame. |
| 04:49.06 | buu | Phated: You too?! |
| 04:49.10 | furrywolf | srid: then how do you rm the trash files? :P |
| 04:49.17 | srid | furrywolf, later |
| 04:49.25 | buu | Phated: Almost everyone I ran in to who has read any has read the entire thing =[ |
| 04:49.26 | srid | oh, perhaps alias would be useful |
| 04:49.34 | maher | furrywolf: \rm |
| 04:49.37 | dabreegster | Phated: I havent read all of it, but I've spent a fair few hours on the randomized pages.. |
| 04:49.38 | De_Mon | wow, people can get that bored? |
| 04:49.43 | buu | Yes =[ |
| 04:49.43 | furrywolf | aliasing rm to move the file would work |
| 04:49.44 | Phated | Actually, no. I've read all but the last five pages, it seems. |
| 04:49.54 | dabreegster | De_Mon: Hell yeah. |
| 04:50.20 | buu | Phated: You ever read lowbrow? |
| 04:50.21 | LunarCrisis | you could test somehow whether the files to be deleted are already in the trash dir or not |
| 04:50.32 | Phated | buu: No. |
| 04:50.33 | srid | also note that, each 'partition' must have it's own Trash directory (for fast file move) |
| 04:50.39 | buu | Phated: You might enjoy it. |
| 04:50.45 | srid | that's why I asked for a 'standard' tool |
| 04:50.55 | dabreegster | They've got some really funny ones. "somebody: so you're just sitting there staring at me? somebody_else: no, I've got creepy music playing too" |
| 04:51.00 | dabreegster | Hilarious. |
| 04:51.12 | buu | srid: mkdir /trash; echo 'mv $*' > /bin/rm; ! |
| 04:51.17 | Phated | I doubt it. I spent three days repenting of my sins after I saw bash. I don't want to think about how long I'd have to starve after something like lowbrow. |
| 04:51.28 | buu | Phated: repenting.. sins? |
| 04:51.29 | De_Mon | no seriously, if I wanted to read stupid stuff I would subscribe to email joke lists. |
| 04:51.38 | srid | buu, yes, but did you read my previous message? |
| 04:51.41 | maher | dabreegster: you'll just have to learn to think for yourself |
| 04:51.42 | MoneyMan | Anyone else watching TV...? Name that show... On TBS... Shutup! You had me at hello... |
| 04:51.57 | buu | srid: Naw, I'm ignoring it and continuing to offer silly advice. It doesn't really seem like that hard to do though,. |
| 04:52.05 | srid | ok |
| 04:52.12 | dabreegster | maher: This is regarding bash? |
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| 04:52.22 | bluefox83 | how do i get the entire line of an entry in a file without opening the file with like..vim |
| 04:52.27 | Phated | buu: Not mine, I guess. More like... Repenting of the stupidity of the human race. |
| 04:52.28 | maher | dabreegster: my favourite quote from bash.org |
| 04:52.38 | dabreegster | bluefox83: head or tail? |
| 04:52.39 | bluefox83 | i want to search for something like "foo" and see whatelse is on the line |
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| 04:52.44 | Phated | grep? |
| 04:52.45 | dabreegster | bluefox83: or grep |
| 04:52.46 | De_Mon | buu if he wanted a Trash dir maybe he should get a mac |
| 04:52.50 | furrywolf | gluefox: grep foo file |
| 04:52.52 | buu | billh: Um, grep? |
| 04:52.52 | furrywolf | bluefox |
| 04:52.53 | dabreegster | bluefox83: grep foo file |
| 04:52.55 | billh | flash doesn't work under unstable any more, bah |
| 04:52.56 | buu | er |
| 04:52.57 | bluefox83 | oh neat.. |
| 04:52.57 | buu | bluefox =[ |
| 04:53.00 | bluefox83 | ty folks.. |
| 04:53.04 | buu | De_Mon: So true. |
| 04:53.34 | dabreegster | billh: did it ever? at least user interaction didn't. I never have been able to watch The end of the world. |
| 04:53.48 | billh | It use to work really well in firefore |
| 04:53.52 | billh | firefox |
| 04:54.04 | Phated | dabreegster: It's worked. |
| 04:54.06 | billh | Any word on the matter ? |
| 04:54.07 | furrywolf | I don't think flash has ever worked... at least, the only things I've ever gotten it to display were banner ads. |
| 04:54.07 | Phated | Several times, actually. |
| 04:54.19 | Phated | I've played idiot games with it. Yeah, it's worked. |
| 04:54.26 | dabreegster | I meant seperately. I'd like mplayer to be able to play it. |
| 04:54.27 | dabreegster | Phated: user interaction? like clicking a button to start it? (which is so pointles...) |
| 04:54.35 | furrywolf | you got games to work with it? I couldn't even get people's simply animations to play. |
| 04:54.40 | Phated | dabreegster: Uhm, yeah, I've played games and stuff. |
| 04:54.46 | dabreegster | Phated: hmm |
| 04:54.53 | De_Mon | (games usualy have a start button) |
| 04:54.59 | Phated | I guess you could call that interaction. Not stimulation, certainly, but interaction. |
| 04:55.08 | buu | dabreegster: You should use ratpoison |
| 04:55.19 | Phated | Why the heck would that matter? |
| 04:55.27 | buu | Phated: Why would what matter? |
| 04:55.35 | De_Mon | mplayer? what? |
| 04:55.41 | dabreegster | buu: I'm using screen. I got a nice blue statusbar with pretty ANSI colors and all sorts of info. staring at me now. |
| 04:55.44 | buu | =[ |
| 04:55.47 | Phated | Using ratpoison. Unless he's asking about wms. |
| 04:56.01 | Phated | dabreegster: Screen in twin. Then you can really say you use a wm. :) |
| 04:56.06 | buu | Phated: Because ratpoison makes *everything* better. |
| 04:56.09 | dabreegster | De_Mon: mplayer is cool. It has a driver specifically for my card that works *great* |
| 04:56.10 | Phated | Bull. |
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| 04:56.15 | buu | NO. TRUTH. |
| 04:56.22 | dabreegster | Phated: bah. twin is useless. |
| 04:56.32 | Phated | dabreegster: Yes, but then again, it's a wm. |
| 04:56.51 | De_Mon | ratpoison.. the wm that turns your X session into a shell |
| 04:56.59 | Phated | How much usefulness does one need from it. |
| 04:57.00 | deadcat | screen. not shell |
| 04:57.05 | dabreegster | Phated: which is why I dont use it. I dont consider screen a wm. I made it do exactly what the normal console does, except with a statusbar |
| 04:57.07 | Phated | Yo, deadcat. |
| 04:57.14 | De_Mon | err, yeah my shell is screen :) |
| 04:57.16 | Phated | dabreegster: I never said screen was a wm. |
| 04:57.18 | buu | De_Mon: Yeah, but ratpison is l33t. |
| 04:57.33 | De_Mon | buu say it "I like ratpoison" |
| 04:57.36 | Phated | It is exactly what "l33t" is, which is to say, not very. |
| 04:57.40 | buu | I <3 ratpoison! |
| 04:57.48 | Phated | I rest my case. |
| 04:57.48 | buu | Phated: Dude, l33t is so 21st century. |
| 04:57.54 | dabreegster | Phated: oh, sorry, you were referring to twin. I'm getting tired. :( |
| 04:57.55 | De_Mon | dude? |
| 04:57.57 | Phated | buu: No. |
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| 04:58.06 | buu | Dude! |
| 04:58.08 | De_Mon | buu we're in the 21st century |
| 04:58.11 | Phated | dabreegster: Yeah, what time is it there? |
| 04:58.31 | deadcat | Phated: what up girl (= |
| 04:58.32 | dabreegster | Phated: about midnight. |
| 04:58.51 | Phated | deadcat: Not much. How's it going? :) |
| 04:58.58 | Phated | dabreegster: Hah. Wimp. :) |
| 04:59.04 | dabreegster | Phated: I get up every morning at 5:30 for school and all those strobe lights at the dance made me sleepy. |
| 04:59.08 | De_Mon | hes 13! |
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| 04:59.16 | Phated | Big deal. |
| 04:59.20 | deadcat | Phated: same shit. too lazy to read my books hehe |
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| 04:59.26 | De_Mon | let him learn some good habits :P |
| 04:59.26 | billh | so no word on why flash doesn't work ? |
| 04:59.37 | dabreegster | Phated: Hey, I've been up for over 19 hours, plus I've suffered a major emotional loss here. |
| 04:59.43 | Phated | dabreegster: Tut. I get to go to a coolesque school soon. Get to wake up at 6:30! :) |
| 04:59.49 | dabreegster | De_Mon: I'll stay up till 3 tomorrow. :P |
| 04:59.57 | De_Mon | http://www.fashionablecanes.com/store/bull_organ_penis_walking_cane.html |
| 04:59.57 | dabreegster | Phated: neato. |
| 04:59.58 | Phated | deadcat: No kidding. IRC's killed my attention span, it sucks. |
| 05:00.04 | deadcat | ya |
| 05:00.06 | De_Mon | That, is just, cool. |
| 05:00.14 | dabreegster | De_Mon: Yeah, I'm not going there. :P |
| 05:00.24 | Phated | dabreegster: Totally. And if I get real lucky, 10 am lectures! So I get to wake up at 8:30! |
| 05:00.26 | De_Mon | its totaly work safe |
| 05:00.36 | Phated | Depends on where you work. |
| 05:00.41 | dabreegster | Actually, getting up in the morning is easy. Usually Danielle arrives early-ish, so.. :P |
| 05:00.47 | Phated | Hah. |
| 05:00.53 | Phated | Obsessive-boy, eh. |
| 05:01.10 | dabreegster | De_Mon: I'm not at work. I don't work. But I'm not opening anything with 'penis' in the URL. Even in elinks. |
| 05:01.10 | De_Mon | comon! its cool, you can't even tell what it is |
| 05:01.22 | dabreegster | Phated: Yep. |
| 05:01.41 | furrywolf | phated: heh. I've never been a morning person... I tried getting up at 6:30 once... even after a month of trying, I was still walking around like a zombie all day. gave up and decided no earlier than 8 was a good rule. |
| 05:01.43 | Phated | dabreegster: Remember, young Jedi: Obsession is merely lifelong devotion. ;) |
| 05:01.56 | deadcat | hahah |
| 05:01.59 | De_Mon | dabreegster how about this: http://www.fashionablecanes.com/store/441.html |
| 05:02.01 | C17H21NO4 | Is there a debian(based) live distro for a usb flash key? |
| 05:02.18 | deadcat | C17H21NO4: damn small linux? |
| 05:02.24 | Phated | furrywolf: Luxury, man. I'm not a morning person either, but I either wake up really early or stay up really late and sleep all day. My schedule's fucked. |
| 05:02.26 | dabreegster | Phated: It's almost as if I *need* something to obsess about all the time in the background... |
| 05:02.27 | De_Mon | $65 I'm gettin someone one of those for xmas |
| 05:02.32 | dabreegster | De_Mon: Let's see.. |
| 05:02.40 | Phated | dabreegster: Dude, don't! |
| 05:02.52 | Phated | dabreegster: As far as obsessing, go right ahead. |
| 05:03.07 | dabreegster | Phated: what, the site? I'm on elinks. No images unless I choose to open em w/ zgv |
| 05:03.11 | Phated | dabreegster: Don't waste your bandwidth. |
| 05:03.13 | dabreegster | Phated: Most gladly. |
| 05:03.24 | furrywolf | phated: heh. I find sleeping from midnight-9am to work quite well. :) |
| 05:03.29 | Phated | dabreegster: Toldya. |
| 05:03.34 | dabreegster | De_Mon: Why exactly are you searching around for that? |
| 05:03.35 | furrywolf | but I have to get up at 7:30 tomorrow... garage sale day. |
| 05:03.48 | dabreegster | Phated: Why exactly is he searching around for that?! |
| 05:03.51 | Phated | furrywolf: Last I recall, I slept 3pm-4am. |
| 05:03.51 | De_Mon | It's said that sleep prior to midnight is 2x as restfull as sleep after midnite |
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| 05:04.07 | Phated | dabreegster: Don't ask. Also, I upgraded my cable. 6500 down, baby. :) |
| 05:04.10 | furrywolf | (those of us who are perpetually broke find garage sales to be an excellent way to save money... got 768mb of pc800 rdram for $40 last week. :) |
| 05:04.11 | De_Mon | dabreegster heard about it on the radio today and had to see it for myself |
| 05:04.32 | dabreegster | De_Mon: *SCARY* |
| 05:04.35 | furrywolf | 3pm-4am? you're right. your schedule is fucked. :P |
| 05:04.38 | De_Mon | 6500? |
| 05:04.39 | dabreegster | Phated: Cool. I hope I get cable soon. |
| 05:04.41 | Phated | Yeah, but I like it. |
| 05:04.52 | Phated | dabreegster: One can only hope. :) |
| 05:04.54 | De_Mon | 650kbyte? |
| 05:05.06 | Phated | How the heck do you arrive at 650 kbyte? |
| 05:05.10 | dabreegster | Phated: sweeeet. |
| 05:05.11 | furrywolf | I got about 450kbytes/sec down, 35kbytes/sec up here... not too bad of speed, and it's pretty reliable. |
| 05:05.22 | furrywolf | s/got/get |
| 05:05.23 | MoneyMan | Anyone know how to get out of a SBC DSL contract? I mean using anything less then suicide? |
| 05:05.25 | De_Mon | I subtracted a 0 |
| 05:05.27 | bluefox83 | would an xchat user please do "grep george /etc/services" and paste the output for me? |
| 05:05.28 | Phated | It's 6500 kbit, which is 812.5kbyte. |
| 05:05.32 | De_Mon | err, removed. |
| 05:05.37 | dabreegster | furrywolf: I'd kill for that. I'm used to 4kbps down and 3 up. |
| 05:05.53 | dabreegster | bluefox83: why george...? |
| 05:05.55 | Phated | dabreegster: TOTALLY> |
| 05:05.55 | bluefox83 | MoneyMan, actually i think if you die and they bring you back you are still legally bound to it.. |
| 05:05.55 | furrywolf | moneyman: move. the year contract has a get-out clause if you move to a house where dsl is not available. |
| 05:06.06 | De_Mon | oh shesh, 6.5Mbit my brain isn'tdoesnt function that well |
| 05:06.09 | bluefox83 | dabreegster, supposed to be what xchat uses for dcc service |
| 05:06.10 | De_Mon | gah |
| 05:06.26 | MoneyMan | Grrrr... |
| 05:06.28 | dabreegster | bluefox83: ah. |
| 05:06.35 | MoneyMan | I found a better DSL deal.. |
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| 05:06.47 | Phated | dabreegster: Hear hear. |
| 05:06.55 | MoneyMan | Dslextreme.com |
| 05:06.56 | De_Mon | Phated whats the upstream with that package? |
| 05:07.00 | MoneyMan | hella better |
| 05:07.01 | MoneyMan | ;P |
| 05:07.02 | bluefox83 | uh, they all use something.. |
| 05:07.08 | MoneyMan | for static ip anyways |
| 05:07.13 | furrywolf | dabreegster: I spent the last three years on a 56k modem... finally found some people to split the cost of cable with, in trade for running a long piece of cat5 to their living room. :P |
| 05:07.16 | Phated | De_Mon: Can't recall. 325 or 352 kbit or something. |
| 05:07.29 | omi | I wanna boot from remote nfs, my kernel has udev (creates devices in /dev) I have initrd image with empty /dev I want to do |
| 05:07.30 | De_Mon | I found a 3Mbit/512k DSL package it's hawt |
| 05:07.40 | dabreegster | furrywolf: neat. I wish I at least had 56k. I've got a nice modem, but crappy connection. |
| 05:07.42 | De_Mon | bummer |
| 05:07.56 | bluefox83 | nevermind people...my source was being an asshole.. |
| 05:08.14 | furrywolf | dabreegster: I can sign you up for DirecWay if you want satellite internet. :) |
| 05:08.29 | MoneyMan | 36.95 for 3Mbit line.. |
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| 05:08.33 | De_Mon | furrywolf is that still 56k up? |
| 05:08.36 | dabreegster | furrywolf: how much and is it available in southeastern US? |
| 05:08.44 | furrywolf | de_mon: nope. faster. |
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| 05:09.01 | dabreegster | MoneyMan: per month? Mmmm, no. Under $25 per month is my goal. |
| 05:09.08 | Phated | dabreegster: Move somewhere decent, man. |
| 05:09.12 | furrywolf | dabreegster: a usably fast package is about $99/month and $999 or $1499 installation depending on what size dish you get. |
| 05:09.24 | Phated | Like, not in the fricking countryside. |
| 05:09.29 | De_Mon | good grief you don't want satellite then |
| 05:09.32 | dabreegster | furrywolf: That's expensive. :P |
| 05:09.38 | dabreegster | Phated: Louisiana is okay. |
| 05:09.48 | MoneyMan | dabreegster: jesus.. u sleep with the ISP company? Where do u find a deal like that |
| 05:09.56 | MoneyMan | 6Mbit line.. 608 upload with static IP.. 49.95 is the best I found.. |
| 05:10.01 | Phated | dabreegster: Yeah, sure, for 3kbps down. |
| 05:10.01 | furrywolf | dabreegster: and guess how much I get paid? minimum wage, when I'm lucky. Directv makes a quite nice profit off the installs... |
| 05:10.06 | dabreegster | Phated: and I'm not in the country. Not downtown area, but close. |
| 05:10.16 | Phated | dabreegster: Then it sucks even more, don't it. |
| 05:10.32 | dabreegster | MoneyMan: Cox said $23 per month. |
| 05:10.42 | Phated | dabreegster: Not the location, but the fact that you get crap connectivity in a semi-urban area. |
| 05:10.44 | MoneyMan | What the! |
| 05:10.49 | furrywolf | don't trust anything cox says. cox does bait-and-switch. |
| 05:10.56 | MoneyMan | 23$ a month where? |
| 05:11.05 | De_Mon | like 23$ a month for the first 3 months |
| 05:11.10 | De_Mon | then its $50 |
| 05:11.16 | dabreegster | Phated: Hellsouth. You've got questions, they've got dumbass commercials. |
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| 05:11.25 | dabreegster | MoneyMan: louisiana |
| 05:11.27 | Phated | dabreegster: "Not bad". |
| 05:11.27 | furrywolf | it's $23/month for something like 3 months, then they double or triple it depending on which speed you want. |
| 05:11.31 | MoneyMan | yeah... thats what im seeing |
| 05:11.38 | furrywolf | I pay $59/month for cox... |
| 05:11.44 | dabreegster | De_Mon: Wow, they downright lied. We specifically asked if the price changed after a bit |
| 05:12.06 | De_Mon | dabreegster ask a stupid sales rep, get a stupid answer :P |
| 05:12.09 | Phated | They don't even have to lie. |
| 05:12.16 | furrywolf | and, of course, I'm paying $9/month for basic cable, even though I don't own a TV. |
| 05:12.17 | Phated | They can always say they had a policy change. |
| 05:12.19 | dabreegster | Phated: Why not? |
| 05:12.34 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: lol... |
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| 05:12.37 | Phated | "We used to not change it, but we had a change of sales policy, so now..." FITB. |
| 05:12.40 | dabreegster | Phated: The LUG leader 'round here warned me about that. |
| 05:12.41 | maher | furrywolf: really? i have cable modem only with no tv |
| 05:12.46 | furrywolf | it's $49/month for the internet and $9/month for the tv I don't own. |
| 05:12.48 | Phated | dabreegster: Good for him. |
| 05:12.51 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: wow thats respectable.. u dont own a TV? |
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| 05:13.07 | furrywolf | I install directv. I _know_ there's 350 channels and nothing on. :P |
| 05:13.15 | De_Mon | I'm ready to drop my cable, damn bastages keep rasing the rates |
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| 05:13.16 | MoneyMan | lol.. |
| 05:13.18 | MoneyMan | ohh |
| 05:13.22 | Phated | dabreegster: Give him a candy bar from me the next time you see him. I'll pay you back... Sometime. :) |
| 05:13.38 | MoneyMan | funking directtv... they stopped broadcasting to my blackbox ;( |
| 05:13.43 | dabreegster | Phated: Heh |
| 05:13.48 | Phated | dabreegster: :) |
| 05:14.05 | Phated | dabreegster: Actually, don't do that. Put the money into a moving fund and move somewhere with decent cable. |
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| 05:14.14 | dabreegster | Phated: No, he's really cool. He helped me first install Debian when Woody wasn't liking my CD drive. |
| 05:14.19 | furrywolf | moneyman: and the new cards are pretty hard to crack. haven't heard of anyone doing it without an emulator. and by the time you spend that much cash and effort, you might as well just pay for the subscription... |
| 05:14.19 | Phated | dabreegster: Nice. |
| 05:14.28 | dabreegster | Phated: Again, I'm a kid. It'll be a few years. |
| 05:14.38 | Phated | dabreegster: Ah, well. |
| 05:14.43 | De_Mon | Phated hahaha |
| 05:14.50 | LinuxNIT- | anyone know of a free x11 server that runs on windows which i can use to connect to my debian box? |
| 05:15.05 | Phated | I don't believe I said something funny. |
| 05:15.05 | furrywolf | linuxnit: would VNC do what you need? |
| 05:15.06 | MoneyMan | furrywolf.. I didnt know p4 cards were even hackable |
| 05:15.20 | toresbe | Phated: Me neither. |
| 05:15.25 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: didnt know P4 cards were even hackable... even with emulator |
| 05:15.27 | maher | LinuxNIT: xlibs were ported to cygwin |
| 05:15.29 | De_Mon | "...a moving fund and move" |
| 05:15.30 | dabreegster | Phated: maybe he thinks candy bars are amusing? |
| 05:15.36 | furrywolf | moneyman: I've heard of people doing it with $$$ computer/card emulators, but never with more than a week of uptime... |
| 05:15.36 | Phated | dabreegster: Maybe. |
| 05:15.42 | De_Mon | it was funny :( |
| 05:15.51 | Phated | toresbe: Self-hughug? |
| 05:15.59 | LinuxNIT- | furrywolf, no i just want single programs not the whole desktop |
| 05:16.11 | furrywolf | moneyman: I've never actually seen a p4 hacked; I've just heard of people doing it. |
| 05:16.15 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: thanks... food for thought.. I just figure easier to sleep with someone there... |
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| 05:16.35 | De_Mon | I can't find upstream info for directway |
| 05:16.59 | furrywolf | moneyman: the best ripoff is sharing subscriptions. |
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| 05:17.31 | furrywolf | it's only $4.99/month per additional receiver... so you just find someone who already has directv, give them $5/month, and use their subscription. |
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| 05:17.54 | furrywolf | sure, it's not free, and there's no l33t-hacking-thrill, but it gets you cheap tv. |
| 05:17.58 | De_Mon | furrywolf you still need a card don't you? |
| 05:18.10 | De_Mon | oh nm I see what you're saying |
| 05:18.31 | furrywolf | I've installed three houses on one subscription before... heh |
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| 05:18.45 | De_Mon | thats a lot of coax |
| 05:18.54 | furrywolf | de_mon: three dishes. |
| 05:18.59 | ApTek | 20:52 <+theblackbeltmaster> fleetwood mac |
| 05:18.59 | ApTek | 20:52 <+fetus> fleetwood mac |
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| 05:19.24 | Phated | Uhm. |
| 05:19.31 | De_Mon | furrywolf oh dang I didn't think it'd be that easy. HHmmm |
| 05:19.40 | furrywolf | the phone line is optional for everything but directivos... they don't know where the receivers are without one, what dish they're on, etc. |
| 05:19.41 | ApTek | Whoops, my apologies. |
| 05:19.45 | De_Mon | that's seriously worth considering |
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| 05:19.54 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: All my neighbors hate me... weeeeee... |
| 05:20.01 | furrywolf | and that's the end of my talk on how to get directv for $4.99/month. :P |
| 05:20.13 | manchot | under /boot, there is a file called System.map. what's it for? |
| 05:20.26 | furrywolf | manchot: stores addresses of various kernel things. |
| 05:20.35 | furrywolf | manchot: read the FAQ. |
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| 05:21.08 | furrywolf | phaser: send me your printer. I need a color laser. :P |
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| 05:21.57 | Phaser_Printer | I would but the phaser overheats too much and it might explode |
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| 05:22.02 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: Is a emulator the same thing as a bootstrap? |
| 05:22.27 | Phaser_Printer | does apt-get upgrade patch the kernel? |
| 05:22.39 | furrywolf | moneyman: the ones I've heard of go between the receiver and the smart card, running it all through a PC, and modify things real-time. |
| 05:22.40 | De_Mon | Phated no |
| 05:22.46 | De_Mon | Phaser_Printer no |
| 05:22.53 | Phated | :| |
| 05:22.54 | bykte | anyone knows of any hardware that prevents your computer from crashing? like revert to normal after a virus attacks or system errors? |
| 05:22.57 | briareus | http://www.bit-tech.net/article/114/2 |
| 05:23.12 | furrywolf | bykte: yep. it's called daily backups. |
| 05:23.21 | De_Mon | Phated yes :) |
| 05:24.10 | Phaser_Printer | so there is no easy way to patch the kernel? |
| 05:24.16 | Yildirim | can anyone help me with dadamail? |
| 05:24.19 | MoneyMan | Haha I got a Thermo electric cooler.. |
| 05:24.27 | furrywolf | phaser: to my knowledge, there is no easy way to patch the kernel binary. |
| 05:24.36 | toresbe | De_Mon: huh? |
| 05:25.04 | toresbe | it does download a newer kernel... |
| 05:25.08 | Phaser_Printer | ok, well thanks for the help |
| 05:25.09 | Phaser_Printer | bywe |
| 05:25.13 | Phaser_Printer | bye* |
| 05:25.25 | furrywolf | what type of patching are you trying to do? |
| 05:25.27 | furrywolf | blah |
| 05:25.51 | furrywolf | isn't there something in the smart questions faq about stating what you're trying to do, not just what step you think you need to do? :) |
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| 05:26.59 | MoneyMan | What is different between phaser printer and laser printer? |
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| 05:27.28 | furrywolf | moneyman: some phasers use funky (or is that phunky) ink sticks or some crap like that... |
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| 05:27.49 | toresbe | laser printersl don't ask stupid questions :P |
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| 05:27.57 | MoneyMan | ? |
| 05:28.18 | MoneyMan | Ohhh.. for color printing I guess... higher quality.. |
| 05:28.43 | furrywolf | color laser is fast and high-quality |
| 05:28.54 | furrywolf | much prettier than inkjet, especially on plain paper |
| 05:29.04 | MoneyMan | whatever.. I got a B&W laser printer... all good with me... |
| 05:29.09 | furrywolf | and pages are measured in seconds instead of minutes/hours. :P |
| 05:29.24 | MoneyMan | never jams.. printer 6000+ sheets no toner change yet |
| 05:29.31 | MoneyMan | *600 |
| 05:29.45 | toresbe | MoneyMan: HP? |
| 05:29.51 | MoneyMan | no.. |
| 05:29.55 | toresbe | ah |
| 05:30.04 | MoneyMan | toresbe: Brother HL-5050 |
| 05:30.04 | furrywolf | heh. my laserjet II is up to about 815,000 pages. :) |
| 05:30.08 | manchot | I configured 2.6x kernel and already have root filesystem build into kernel, but I still have kernel panic |
| 05:30.23 | manchot | what's going wrong? no initrd? |
| 05:30.29 | MoneyMan | toresbe: damn good printer.. only like 200$.. damn worth it... |
| 05:30.38 | toresbe | furrywolf: wahey :) |
| 05:30.46 | MoneyMan | got tired of freaking inkjets.. |
| 05:31.00 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: thats badass.. how much did it cost? |
| 05:31.06 | toresbe | MoneyMan: Still doesn't beat the laserjets :) |
| 05:31.24 | furrywolf | moneyman: about $5. I buy everything used. :) |
| 05:31.30 | MoneyMan | toresbE: its a laserjet |
| 05:31.41 | MoneyMan | 5$ for HP printer? |
| 05:31.42 | MoneyMan | lol |
| 05:31.46 | MoneyMan | ur amazing |
| 05:31.57 | furrywolf | !ur |
| 05:31.57 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 05:32.01 | furrywolf | :P |
| 05:32.19 | MoneyMan | You're amazing.. haha beat the system. |
| 05:32.24 | toresbe | furrywolf: I'm going to a fleemarket today :) |
| 05:32.37 | furrywolf | fleamarkets are good, but garage sales tend to be more fun. :) |
| 05:32.52 | furrywolf | at least around here, the only people who ever sell at fleamarkets are dealers, and you never get good deals. |
| 05:33.09 | MoneyMan | ;( Staying home.. no drivers license.. |
| 05:33.13 | toresbe | those are rare in Norway... |
| 05:33.28 | MoneyMan | Damn DVC and their 21 points... taking away my DL ;( |
| 05:33.39 | MoneyMan | *DMV |
| 05:34.04 | furrywolf | and how did you rack up the points? I think I have 0... |
| 05:34.24 | toresbe | .no fleamarts are pretty much centralized garage sales... :) |
| 05:34.25 | MoneyMan | I play a lot of pin ball.. and I'm good |
| 05:34.37 | furrywolf | I got a seat belt ticket a couple years back, as a passenger, in the car of someone who refused to let people wear seatbelts... only thing on my record. |
| 05:34.50 | MoneyMan | like 6 tickets... 2 more for 100+ |
| 05:34.50 | toresbe | furrywolf: WTF? |
| 05:35.10 | furrywolf | and why the hell were you going 100+mph on public roads? :P |
| 05:35.13 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: thats not even a moving violation.. |
| 05:35.15 | toresbe | furrywolf: I would leave the car. |
| 05:35.36 | furrywolf | toresbe: he's a rather safe driver; the cops are more of a risk than he is. :P |
| 05:35.51 | MoneyMan | furrywold: Wasnt a public road... was a public freeway.. Weeeeeee |
| 05:35.57 | furrywolf | moneyman: lol |
| 05:36.01 | toresbe | furrywolf: still, that's stupid. |
| 05:36.08 | furrywolf | I rarely speed... |
| 05:36.43 | toresbe | ahhhh |
| 05:36.49 | toresbe | back to qwerty |
| 05:36.53 | toresbe | *gasps for air* |
| 05:37.21 | furrywolf | gah! every time it snows, I'm of course driving 5-10mph (which is still a little fast for 6" of snow, in a 2wd car, with no chains), and I get passed by people doing 65... and it's amazing how many of them I see further down the road getting pulled out by a towtruck. :) |
| 05:37.28 | MoneyMan | I offered some guy whos GF was working at DMV 1000 to clear my record... never called me back ;( |
| 05:37.53 | toresbe | MoneyMan: You shouldn't be allowed on the road and I'm glad they revoked your license. |
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| 05:38.09 | deadcat | HAHAH |
| 05:38.22 | MoneyMan | toresbe: bahhh bs... I never got in any accidents... |
| 05:38.23 | furrywolf | toresbe: agreed. |
| 05:38.35 | deadcat | my /dev/hdb is gone. its a cdrom |
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| 05:39.07 | toresbe | MoneyMan: that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If you *do* get in an accident, not only would you endanger yourself, you would also endanger someone sane. |
| 05:39.23 | deadcat | furrywolf: thats what most people do |
| 05:39.39 | deadcat | furrywolf: what i do is use the cars on the next lane to block the motherfucker (= |
| 05:39.43 | MoneyMan | hahaha... furrywolf: I just fly by you.. |
| 05:40.12 | furrywolf | moneyman: that doesn't work when every lane has someone in it who thinks the same way. :P |
| 05:40.23 | deadcat | maher: HAHAHA |
| 05:40.31 | MoneyMan | hahahah you guys would see me either split the lane between you two or use emergency lane ;) |
| 05:40.47 | MoneyMan | believe me many have tried.. all have failed.. |
| 05:40.58 | toresbe | MoneyMan: I think the cops succeeded, no? |
| 05:41.04 | furrywolf | moneyman: I've been known to lock the front wheels, with my brakes lights turned off, just to annoy people like you. :P |
| 05:41.05 | deadcat | MoneyMan: you must be proud |
| 05:41.20 | furrywolf | (subaru... e-brake on the front wheels, and it WORKS) |
| 05:41.20 | MoneyMan | raced like 10 cops.. beat 8.. |
| 05:41.35 | manchot | is there a pkg what shows internet traffic ? |
| 05:41.45 | MoneyMan | ;) Soooo proud.. |
| 05:41.46 | toresbe | MoneyMan: I hope you drive at 110mph into a wall instead of a pedestrian |
| 05:42.09 | MoneyMan | toresbe: no pedestrians or walls on freeway |
| 05:42.09 | deadcat | manchot: iftop, bwn |
| 05:42.32 | toresbe | MoneyMan: or another car |
| 05:42.35 | furrywolf | and I don't know what kind of roads you have there, but here there's no emergency lane nor are lanes wide enough to drive between cars. |
| 05:42.46 | furrywolf | very few highways here are that wide... |
| 05:42.52 | MoneyMan | Bay area? |
| 05:42.58 | MoneyMan | California.. |
| 05:42.59 | furrywolf | further north. |
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| 05:43.08 | deadcat | MoneyMan: which part of bay area? |
| 05:43.20 | furrywolf | here most highways are 2 lanes, no shoulders, with 55 speed limits. |
| 05:43.29 | furrywolf | (2 lanes total, i.e. one each direction) |
| 05:43.30 | MoneyMan | Ohh well.. if you even come to bay... 680 is wide enough for 3 cars in 2 lanes |
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| 05:43.43 | toresbe | When people like MoneyMan have their licenses revoked it pretty much proves that the DMV is doing their job. |
| 05:43.46 | MoneyMan | deadcat: alamo.. |
| 05:43.47 | deadcat | MoneyMan: 680 east bay? |
| 05:43.50 | deadcat | oh |
| 05:43.56 | MoneyMan | walnut creek |
| 05:44.02 | MoneyMan | is where I live |
| 05:44.05 | deadcat | ah. near me (= |
| 05:44.14 | MoneyMan | toresbe: you sound mad ;) |
| 05:44.16 | deadcat | pittsburg |
| 05:44.26 | MoneyMan | ohhh pimp ;) Sup neighbor |
| 05:44.30 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 05:44.34 | toresbe | MoneyMan: I believe you are the madman here, and most people here would agree with me. |
| 05:44.59 | deadcat | MoneyMan: i drive a mr2 with few linux stickers on it. |
| 05:45.03 | MoneyMan | toresbe: I'm not a madman... I just drive fast.. |
| 05:45.18 | bucky | it's a bay thing |
| 05:45.24 | furrywolf | toresbe: they revoked a relative's license for being $50 late paying child support. while he lived in a van and she lived in a 3bd2ba house on an acre of beachside property. the dmv is NOT doing their job. |
| 05:45.24 | toresbe | but I'm waiting 'till they get their 1401 running, and possibly the 360 |
| 05:45.36 | MoneyMan | deadcat: 02 Honda civic lx... a POS.. |
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| 05:45.40 | toresbe | furrywolf: wow. |
| 05:46.00 | deadcat | MoneyMan: if i see you i might piss you off (= |
| 05:46.23 | MoneyMan | deadcat: why? |
| 05:46.26 | fm | is there any way to deny access to certain group instead of specific users in vsftpd ? |
| 05:46.28 | deadcat | just kidding |
| 05:46.50 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: uh, the DMV doesn't have any contorl over that |
| 05:46.50 | deadcat | sometimes i am affraid people will shoot me because i mess with them. especially they get a little close to my tail |
| 05:47.12 | furrywolf | dondel: uhh. the DMV has quite a bit of control over revoking someone's license. |
| 05:47.20 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: they're directed by whoever is running child support in CA to revoke the license. |
| 05:47.37 | furrywolf | only morons who blindly follow policy would do that. |
| 05:47.46 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: you can't argue with a court order. |
| 05:47.46 | furrywolf | (oh wait, I just described most government workers...) |
| 05:47.48 | deadcat | MoneyMan: you a student? |
| 05:47.50 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: actually hes right.. court systems tell DMV to take it away for child support. They have no choice. not really.. |
| 05:47.55 | bykte | how do i check whether php is installed on my system? |
| 05:48.07 | deadcat | bykte: dpkg -l php* |
| 05:48.07 | fm | bykte, php -v ? |
| 05:48.08 | MoneyMan | deadcat: yeah.. going to DVC.. |
| 05:48.11 | dondelelcaro | even if the court order is wrong, arguing with it will only get you jailed for contempt. |
| 05:48.13 | deadcat | MoneyMan: me too |
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| 05:48.21 | MoneyMan | deadcat: gonna start Davis next year.. |
| 05:48.24 | furrywolf | I've never followed an unjust order, and have no plans to do so. I got fired from teaching for refusing to change my class into a good-little-robot training center. |
| 05:48.28 | deadcat | MoneyMan: cool. |
| 05:48.29 | MoneyMan | deadcat: no shit... lol... |
| 05:48.44 | deadcat | MoneyMan: ya. first sem at dvc, moved from sf |
| 05:48.44 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: then be prepared to be jailed because of it |
| 05:48.58 | MoneyMan | deadcat: what classes u taking? |
| 05:49.11 | Atula | soo.... say.... if there's a program that crashed in Debian.... how do you force kill on it?? ... tried... ps, bit doesn't show the crash one... |
| 05:49.22 | dondelelcaro | Atula: uh, if it's crashed, it's already dead. |
| 05:49.26 | deadcat | MoneyMan: 3 hist. 1 eng. and that fucking stupid computer (linux admin class) <- hes DUMB. i teach him. |
| 05:49.28 | Atula | <--- noob |
| 05:49.31 | furrywolf | dondel: I have absolutely no qualums about shooting a cop between the eyes for trying to arrest someone over $50 completely ridiculus child support. anyone stupid enough to follow that order should be removed from the planet to encourage natural selection. |
| 05:49.37 | Atula | no... the software is still there... |
| 05:49.48 | Atula | the window... tried to close it.... it doesn't close |
| 05:50.06 | MoneyMan | deadcat: lol.. that guy is soooo chill! you couldnt get him anger if you fucked his daughter in front of him.. |
| 05:50.14 | MoneyMan | *angry |
| 05:50.23 | deadcat | MoneyMan: HAHAHAH. stephen right? |
| 05:50.36 | MoneyMan | yeah.... i think.. the guy whos like 50? |
| 05:50.38 | bykte | say if i install php, the apache will detect it automatically huh? |
| 05:50.40 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: ok, so you're going to shoot a random police officer who is just serving an arrest warrant for which he or she has no part in the process of or was even involved in weighing hte evidence behind it? |
| 05:50.50 | MoneyMan | maybe younger.. I dont remember exactly... |
| 05:51.12 | deadcat | MoneyMan: ya.. man he sucks. opens nautilis to display /etc/hosts )= sad |
| 05:51.23 | MoneyMan | deadcat: Im a linux newb.. I took his class but had to drop.. too busy... but every question I asked he didn't know. |
| 05:51.24 | Atula | 8============= penis |
| 05:51.28 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: it's not a big deal, you get arrested, you file a writ of habeas corpus, and you sue. |
| 05:51.32 | deadcat | MoneyMan: if you see a guy with a blackhat and an ibook with a tux logo. thats me |
| 05:51.41 | maher | furrywolf: yeah - the police officer should just get themselves fired/thrown in jail instead |
| 05:51.56 | Xenguy | wow, the tards are so easy to identify tonight |
| 05:52.25 | MoneyMan | deadcat: gonna have you to teach me some linux man ;P |
| 05:52.25 | JoshH | Xenguy: on behalf of mentally handicapped persons everywhere, i take offense to your usage of the word tard. |
| 05:52.36 | Xenguy | bye |
| 05:52.44 | dondelelcaro | Atula: so use xkill to kill it off. |
| 05:52.44 | fm | bykte, not necesseraly, make sure you load php module from apache configuration file |
| 05:52.44 | Atula | 8===========> ( )o( ) penis in ass.. |
| 05:52.49 | JoshH | lol |
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| 05:52.51 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@resnet152-228.medford.tufts.edu] by dondelelcaro |
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| 05:52.53 | deadcat | MoneyMan: haha. actually i wanted to ask the school to teach a intro to linux but i dont have a degree (= |
| 05:53.10 | furrywolf | surely someone here can kickban atula... |
| 05:53.10 | deadcat | he has a sharp dick (= |
| 05:53.22 | dondelelcaro | Atula: if you want to be a child, kindly do it in some other channel. |
| 05:53.24 | MoneyMan | deadcat: lol... I'd sign up if it was a internet class.. |
| 05:53.28 | JoshH | lol deadcat |
| 05:53.36 | furrywolf | and, yes, I'm a strongly pro-gun ownership furry. live with it. :P |
| 05:53.36 | deadcat | JoshH: hehe |
| 05:53.56 | deadcat | MoneyMan: you a cs major? |
| 05:53.56 | maher | furrywolf: there's natural selection at work... |
| 05:54.05 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: haven't said anything about gun ownership... no clue what that has to do with the discussion |
| 05:54.06 | MoneyMan | deadcat: if you know linux... why dont u just get certified? |
| 05:54.14 | MoneyMan | deadcat: heeeeelllll no! |
| 05:54.16 | deadcat | MoneyMan: i have few |
| 05:54.20 | dondelelcaro | certifications aren't worth the paper they're written on |
| 05:54.23 | deadcat | MoneyMan: hellll no here either (= |
| 05:54.29 | furrywolf | dondel: talking about what should be done with people who follow orders without thinking. |
| 05:54.32 | MoneyMan | deadcat: I just do it for work while I go to school.. |
| 05:54.33 | furrywolf | and corrupt government |
| 05:54.42 | deadcat | MoneyMan: cool. |
| 05:54.44 | JoshH | i like this one (dont punish me plz dondelelcaro): B======D~~~~~~( . ) ( . ) |
| 05:54.59 | dondelelcaro | JoshH: that's great. Do it in some other channel, not here. |
| 05:55.01 | furrywolf | dondel: +q joshh too. :P |
| 05:55.04 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: kick him (= |
| 05:55.05 | JoshH | sorry |
| 05:55.07 | JoshH | i just had to |
| 05:55.16 | maher | furrywolf: stupid rules are different from corruption... shooting people over bad laws is in general counterproductive |
| 05:55.45 | bucky | heya JoshH |
| 05:55.49 | MoneyMan | deadcat: what do u do ? |
| 05:55.53 | JoshH | hey there bucky, whats up |
| 05:55.55 | MoneyMan | i mean for work |
| 05:56.07 | bucky | JoshH, is your office by the ibm building? |
| 05:56.08 | furrywolf | maher: blindly following orders is the excuse use throughout history to avoid thinking... "of course we threw the jews in the gas chamber; we were just following orders..." |
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| 05:56.15 | JoshH | bucky: right across the street |
| 05:56.20 | bucky | cool |
| 05:56.23 | deadcat | MoneyMan: unemployed man. )= |
| 05:56.54 | maher | furrywolf: somehow I'd rather the police/judicial system attempts to implement the law as written rather than interpret it arbitrarily |
| 05:57.09 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: there's a substantial difference between following orders to kill someone and following lawful orders that have followed the judicial process, and are quite capable of being repealed. |
| 05:57.10 | furrywolf | people have the responsibilty to recognize when they're being told to do something wrong, and take steps to correct it. |
| 05:57.37 | MoneyMan | deadcat: need a job.. I cant pay you anymore then I get paid... but its not bad.. 12$ a hour |
| 05:57.43 | deadcat | i cdrom on my ibook is not ejecting. /dev/hdb is gone, loaded the ide-cd and cdrom module but didnt do nothing. worked before. maybe i put the thing to sleep to many times |
| 05:57.44 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: sure, but it's not anyone single person's place to decide that they haven't acted responsibly. |
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| 05:57.50 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: heh |
| 05:57.52 | deadcat | MoneyMan: where at? |
| 05:58.08 | deadcat | MoneyMan: $12 is good. i have $120 left |
| 05:58.17 | maher | furrywolf: so its ok for people to shoot at each other when they disagree about which laws are sensible? |
| 05:58.20 | furrywolf | dondel: you have even less faith in humanity than I do... and I don't have much. :P |
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| 05:58.35 | MoneyMan | deadcat: Financing firm.. I do the IT work... I need help with the linux server that has been setup.. |
| 05:58.43 | deadcat | MoneyMan: cool. |
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| 05:58.53 | guestish | hi |
| 05:58.54 | MoneyMan | deadcat: How old are u? |
| 05:58.55 | guestish | does debian support the NForce 4 chipset? |
| 05:58.58 | guestish | or should i say does the linux kernel support NForce 4? |
| 05:59.01 | deadcat | MoneyMan: old enough to drink |
| 05:59.03 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: I've seen quite a bit of stupidity, and unfortunatly, even right thinking people behave stupidly on occasion. |
| 05:59.08 | MoneyMan | deadcat: me 2.. |
| 05:59.24 | MoneyMan | deadcat: a lot more then that or no? |
| 05:59.31 | furrywolf | brb, need to grab a snack and get ready for bed... 7:30 wakeup for garage sales. :) |
| 05:59.32 | deadcat | 23 |
| 05:59.47 | guestish | http://usa.asus.com/products/server/srv-mb/k8n-dl/overview.htm <=== i wanted to make sure it was well supported by linux |
| 05:59.49 | MoneyMan | deadcat: oh okay.. cool.. |
| 05:59.51 | guestish | before i get it |
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| 06:00.26 | MoneyMan | deadcat: 21 here... you got another method of contact? |
| 06:00.38 | markmrd | I have a USB SD card reader. When I plug it in with the SD memory inserted I get the /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 special files, if I connect it without the SD inserted I only get /dev/sda, if I then insert the SD memory I do not get /dev/sda1. Does anyone know how to tell Linux to refresh its list of connected devices? |
| 06:00.40 | guestish | hum... |
| 06:00.53 | deadcat | MoneyMan: email. deadcat@freeshell.org but if thats not professional enough i can give you my gmail account (= |
| 06:00.55 | guestish | anyone? |
| 06:01.01 | nosleep | anyone knows what is the package name for mod_proxy (apache 1.3), apt-cache search proxy can't seems to find any? |
| 06:01.04 | MoneyMan | deadcat: lol.. all good. |
| 06:01.20 | dondelelcaro | nosleep: mod_proxy is in apache 1.3 iirc. |
| 06:01.37 | nosleep | dondelelcaro: apache-common ? |
| 06:01.41 | dondelelcaro | nosleep: yes. |
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| 06:01.51 | MoneyMan | deadcat: can you come into work or just VNC and putty? either way is cool.. would just feel more secure if I gave you server access and you were there.. |
| 06:01.58 | deadcat | MoneyMan: what kind of stuff do you guys need to setup? |
| 06:02.02 | dondelelcaro | nosleep: hint: search for proxy.so on packages.debian.org; or dpkg -S proxy.so |
| 06:02.05 | deadcat | MoneyMan: fuck putty. |
| 06:02.26 | deadcat | MoneyMan: i can come in or ssh. |
| 06:02.30 | MoneyMan | deadcat: fuck putty? ohhh.. you run linux at home right? |
| 06:02.36 | nosleep | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 06:02.47 | deadcat | MoneyMan: (= |
| 06:03.00 | deadcat | amen to that ^^ |
| 06:03.20 | dondelelcaro | (although, there are a few windows boxes in the lab, but I don't use them) |
| 06:03.32 | guestish | sweet...nvidia has drivers for nforce |
| 06:03.39 | deadcat | people say "you have a nice apple ibook, running osx?" i say "no, linux", they say "huh?" |
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| 06:03.55 | MoneyMan | deadcat: install a HD is primary concern.. you dont know windows server 2k3 do you? |
| 06:04.03 | deadcat | actually they say "nice penguin, its CUTE" |
| 06:04.17 | deadcat | MoneyMan: dont know 2k3 |
| 06:04.18 | furrywolf | I want to install linux on an ipaq. that will get more "huh?"s that linux on an ibook. :) |
| 06:04.25 | guestish | heh... |
| 06:04.30 | guestish | how about linux on a xbox |
| 06:04.47 | furrywolf | why would I want an xbox? |
| 06:04.51 | deadcat | furrywolf: hahah. my friend god linux running on his. not bad.. vim and shits |
| 06:04.52 | guestish | cause you can |
| 06:05.12 | pwned | I have a 3com ethernet card. Knoppix recognizes it, gentoo livecd recognizes it, but debian sarge netinstall can't bring it up =\ |
| 06:05.21 | pwned | "net" install |
| 06:05.21 | furrywolf | I could have a far more powerful computer for the same cost as an xbox, and wouldn't need to fuck with it. |
| 06:05.26 | MoneyMan | deadcat: all good.. U know how to create user profiles and shit like that? |
| 06:05.46 | deadcat | MoneyMan: for windows 2k3? |
| 06:06.09 | MoneyMan | deadcat: basically want to create useraccounts to where when people move around they have their desktops and files follow them around.. no one linux |
| 06:06.10 | deadcat | pwned: modprobe -l |grep 3c |
| 06:06.41 | deadcat | MoneyMan: ya. i think i can do that. i used to do little of that at a baking school in south sf |
| 06:06.43 | MoneyMan | deadcat: we use samba and cyrmail and shit like that.. |
| 06:06.53 | deadcat | MoneyMan: sounds cool. |
| 06:06.57 | nosleep | dondelelcaro: why i see such message? Invalid command 'ProxyPass', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
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| 06:07.17 | dondelelcaro | nosleep: because you haven't loaded the proxy module. It's not loaded by default. |
| 06:07.49 | dondelelcaro | nosleep: apache-modconf apache enable libproxy; shoudl do it. |
| 06:07.55 | pwned | deadcat, it is 3c59x , and it was working great with debian sid before |
| 06:07.57 | nosleep | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 06:08.03 | dondelelcaro | nosleep: man apache-modconf; for details |
| 06:08.07 | deadcat | pwned: then laod the module |
| 06:08.11 | pwned | now I modprobe it and it says it can't bring it up |
| 06:08.11 | nosleep | dondelelcaro: thanks again |
| 06:08.13 | MoneyMan | deadcat: cool.. do u know IP Tables and VPN? |
| 06:08.25 | deadcat | MoneyMan: iptables. not vpn |
| 06:08.30 | pwned | I should paste the error somewhere |
| 06:08.43 | deadcat | pwned: #flood |
| 06:08.49 | MoneyMan | deadcat: cool.. good enough.. |
| 06:08.54 | deadcat | (= |
| 06:09.12 | deadcat | MoneyMan: do you have to be real good at iptables? (= |
| 06:09.39 | dondelelcaro | nosleep: np |
| 06:09.40 | MoneyMan | deadcat: custom firewall has already been setup.. just know how to add and delete a few things.. |
| 06:09.54 | deadcat | MoneyMan: ya thats cool. |
| 06:09.55 | furrywolf | df |
| 06:09.57 | furrywolf | grr |
| 06:10.13 | furrywolf | s/irc/bash/g. :) |
| 06:10.15 | dondelelcaro | /dev/sdb2 464M 99M 341M 23% / |
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| 06:10.32 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: HAHAHAH. i was gonna paste mine. |
| 06:10.52 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: heh. yeah, mine goes on for a bunch more lines, but most of it isn't interesting. |
| 06:11.04 | furrywolf | phooey. I only have 440gb. :P |
| 06:11.04 | dondelelcaro | (well, that's df -h, but whatever) |
| 06:11.07 | deadcat | ya. i was affraid to get kicked |
| 06:11.22 | furrywolf | oh wait, that's M, not G... |
| 06:11.47 | deadcat | my cdrom is spinning. just hdb is not there. )= |
| 06:11.52 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: heh |
| 06:12.05 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i dont want to reboot (= |
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| 06:14.02 | MoneyMan | deadcat: u ever used cyrus mail before? cause out mail systems need a fatass overhaul.. |
| 06:14.06 | MoneyMan | *our |
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| 06:14.29 | deadcat | MoneyMan: nope. but heard of it before. |
| 06:14.47 | deadcat | MoneyMan: what distro you guys using? |
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| 06:14.53 | MoneyMan | deadcat: alright |
| 06:14.59 | MoneyMan | deadcat: debian. |
| 06:15.02 | deadcat | ah |
| 06:15.04 | deadcat | (= |
| 06:15.33 | spauldo | hey, quick q: the woody sparc CD #1 should have more than pool and dist on it, right? Bootin's givin' me "wrong magic number" - think my jidgo download might have screwed up |
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| 06:15.53 | MoneyMan | deadcat: ;) the last linux guy taught me all I know.. which is basically jack shit.. thats what I'm here.. |
| 06:16.12 | deadcat | MoneyMan: oh. then i might be able to help (= heheh |
| 06:16.24 | deadcat | MoneyMan: and how you get the job? (= |
| 06:16.32 | Latte_Ninja | i have a question or rather a problem, not strictly debian related but i remember getting some good advice here before |
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| 06:17.03 | furrywolf | atula: next time will likely be a permanant ban... |
| 06:17.17 | deadcat | Latte_Ninja: you want to know if you can save the world? |
| 06:17.23 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: it's still +q. |
| 06:17.30 | Latte_Ninja | who doesnt deadcat? |
| 06:17.34 | furrywolf | dondel: ah, good. :) |
| 06:17.38 | deadcat | Latte_Ninja: then we dont know. |
| 06:17.42 | Latte_Ninja | im having some hardware issues |
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| 06:17.49 | furrywolf | ircii doesn't think +q exists, so I don't get to see these fun things. |
| 06:17.55 | spauldo | bah, I don't want to save the world. I'm low on disk space as is. |
| 06:18.07 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: uh... time to step up to a real IRC client |
| 06:18.09 | MoneyMan | deadcat: Im good with computers... just not linux... my friend is owners son... and his dad asked us to come in and fix a few things... and we ended up staying there... |
| 06:18.23 | deadcat | MoneyMan: nice. |
| 06:18.31 | Latte_Ninja | MoneyMan: you might be able to help me then |
| 06:18.33 | furrywolf | dondel: I'm using my old p2-350 to irc, so I can irc while rebooting my normal box every 5 minutes trying to make $#$%@#$#@ DVDs work. |
| 06:18.41 | Xenguy | nyuck nyuck |
| 06:18.44 | MoneyMan | Latte_Ninja: what do u need? |
| 06:18.54 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: hey, a p2-350 will run Debian nicely. |
| 06:18.57 | MoneyMan | deadcat: cool... so when I need you do I just email you? |
| 06:19.07 | deadcat | MoneyMan: ya. |
| 06:19.20 | furrywolf | dondel: the p2-350 has debian on it. about 3 years ago dpkg broke and I haven't gotten around to figuring out why... |
| 06:19.26 | MoneyMan | deadcat: cool |
| 06:19.32 | deadcat | MoneyMan: i usually in the lib on mon wed after 3 as well. |
| 06:19.35 | Latte_Ninja | well my computer keeps cutting out whenever i stress it too much ie play video/audio that sort of thing. its as if someone cut the power off suddenly and then it just reboors |
| 06:19.36 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: uh, so reinstall dpkg |
| 06:20.00 | furrywolf | dondel: that's a bit annoying when dpkg is broken. :P |
| 06:20.08 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: a few minutes with ar and tar, and you'll be done. |
| 06:20.15 | MoneyMan | deadcat: well my classes end at 12 so im rarely there that late but cool. |
| 06:20.18 | bucky | Latte_Ninja, look inside at the fan and look for dust bunnies |
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| 06:20.27 | deadcat | MoneyMan: thats cool. |
| 06:20.33 | furrywolf | not worth it. as soon as I finish setting up my new box, going to retire this one... it's served me well. about 7 years of 24/7 use without even a glitch. |
| 06:20.34 | bucky | make sure the fan is spinning |
| 06:20.40 | dondelelcaro | ar x dpkg-*.deb; tar -zxf DATA.tar.gz; mv usr/bin/dpkg /usr/bin/; done. |
| 06:20.54 | Latte_Ninja | bucky: thanks but have checked that, all is clean |
| 06:21.15 | MoneyMan | Latte_Ninja: chances are your CPU is overheating... |
| 06:21.26 | furrywolf | dondel: I think rather than the dpkg binary being damaged, all the package lists, status, what's installed, etc went poof somewhere. |
| 06:21.28 | Latte_Ninja | someone told me that amd processors go screwy after a while |
| 06:21.38 | dondelelcaro | furrywolf: restore them from /var/backups/*; |
| 06:21.43 | MoneyMan | try changing fans or at least adding some thermal greese |
| 06:21.52 | MoneyMan | the fan on the CPU i mean.. |
| 06:21.55 | dondelelcaro | although, the status going is a PITA... but not totally insurmountable. |
| 06:21.56 | furrywolf | latte_ninja: is it a 500mhz-1ghz-ish amd system? |
| 06:22.05 | Latte_Ninja | xp2000 |
| 06:22.09 | Latte_Ninja | 1.7ghz |
| 06:22.18 | spauldo | Latte_Ninja: could also be power supply, if it's happening when you're using the optical drive a lot - I've got a similar problem with my main workstation. |
| 06:22.23 | furrywolf | that should be new enough to not have capacitor plague |
| 06:22.37 | MoneyMan | Latte_Ninja: What kind of a video card do you have? |
| 06:23.05 | furrywolf | dondel: not worth fixing it, as I said... probably won't be using this box much longer. |
| 06:23.31 | furrywolf | and I need sleep. cyas all. |
| 06:23.32 | Latte_Ninja | gefore fx 5200 256mb ddr |
| 06:23.34 | MoneyMan | Latte_Ninja: I would recommend 2 things.. bigger power supply.. just in case... and change CPU fan.. check in your bios and see what temp your computer is after one of your shutdown episodes... |
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| 06:24.07 | Latte_Ninja | its normaly around 55C MoneyMan |
| 06:24.15 | Latte_Ninja | have a brand new power supply too |
| 06:24.19 | MoneyMan | thats not anything major |
| 06:24.27 | Latte_Ninja | 450w super cooling one |
| 06:24.32 | MoneyMan | try updating video card driver? |
| 06:24.43 | furrywolf | you can always check the capacitors for the hell of it. :) |
| 06:24.46 | MoneyMan | and windows .. im assuming youve done those? |
| 06:24.46 | furrywolf | bbl, sleep |
| 06:24.49 | bucky | over clocked? |
| 06:24.56 | Latte_Ninja | the system is really unstabel |
| 06:24.56 | furrywolf | windows?! there's the problem. :P |
| 06:25.07 | Latte_Ninja | so unstable i cant even install linux :( |
| 06:25.13 | Latte_Ninja | or windows |
| 06:25.19 | deadcat | Latte_Ninja: get a new computer |
| 06:25.19 | MoneyMan | is 55C normal? |
| 06:25.20 | Latte_Ninja | windows was a struggle to get going |
| 06:25.37 | Latte_Ninja | deadcat you gonna give me the cash cos i'd love that |
| 06:25.38 | MoneyMan | I've never seen my shit about like 39 |
| 06:25.39 | furrywolf | latte: check the capacitors next to the cpu socket to make sure the tops are perfectly flat and not buldging/domed even slightly |
| 06:25.49 | MoneyMan | well like 42... |
| 06:25.52 | deadcat | Latte_Ninja: if i have cash then yes. but i dont |
| 06:26.03 | furrywolf | my cpus normally sit around 32C... |
| 06:26.12 | furrywolf | goes up to 50C under full load |
| 06:26.13 | Latte_Ninja | is it ok to check them while its on? |
| 06:26.18 | Latte_Ninja | i got the side panel off |
| 06:26.21 | ysothoth | heh |
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| 06:26.25 | MoneyMan | check on what? |
| 06:26.30 | furrywolf | latte: what model is the motherboard? |
| 06:26.33 | Latte_Ninja | capacitors |
| 06:26.39 | MoneyMan | no |
| 06:26.42 | MoneyMan | i dont think so |
| 06:26.54 | MoneyMan | those things get hot man |
| 06:26.56 | furrywolf | moneyman: looking at the motherboard with it on will hurt things? :P |
| 06:27.03 | furrywolf | capacitors should not get hot. lol |
| 06:27.04 | Latte_Ninja | KT333 mobo |
| 06:27.13 | deadcat | furrywolf: no tab completion? |
| 06:27.17 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: not looking.. touching |
| 06:27.24 | furrywolf | furrywolf: nope |
| 06:27.26 | furrywolf | grr |
| 06:27.29 | furrywolf | deadcat: nope |
| 06:27.32 | deadcat | hahaha |
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| 06:27.53 | furrywolf | some kt333s are on the badcaps list... |
| 06:28.02 | MoneyMan | I dont know... the capacitors on my laptop use to get hot.. but then again.. they were defective so.. |
| 06:28.10 | Latte_Ninja | capacitors are bulging and seem to have some residue on them |
| 06:28.19 | furrywolf | latte: there's your problem. |
| 06:28.23 | MoneyMan | Latte_Ninja: taste it.. |
| 06:28.24 | furrywolf | you've got capacitor plague. :) |
| 06:28.27 | Latte_Ninja | genius |
| 06:28.30 | furrywolf | you need a new motherboard. |
| 06:28.31 | spauldo | yep. Warrantee time. |
| 06:28.45 | Latte_Ninja | MoneyMan i love you |
| 06:28.55 | MoneyMan | ;) WEeeeeee |
| 06:28.56 | furrywolf | you can fix them (I've done more than a few), but unless you're good at soldering, highly not recommended. |
| 06:29.03 | Latte_Ninja | if this fixes my problems im gonna be so happy |
| 06:29.16 | furrywolf | I probably have about 200 caps left over from my last batch of re-caps. :) |
| 06:29.25 | fm | is there a way to configure default group for a newly created user ? I put GROUP=gid_here in /etc/default/useradd, but no luck |
| 06:29.28 | MoneyMan | furrywolf Latte_Ninja is it worth it? just go buy a decent MB for like 50$ |
| 06:29.34 | Latte_Ninja | where are you guys from ? |
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| 06:29.50 | MoneyMan | bay area |
| 06:29.51 | MoneyMan | ca |
| 06:29.54 | furrywolf | moneyman: it was worth it in my case, as most of the boards I fixed were dual boards with an ebay price of $120+... |
| 06:29.55 | deadcat | fm: GROUP=number |
| 06:30.18 | fm | deadcat, yes I did that, somehow its not taken... |
| 06:30.24 | MoneyMan | furrywold: ouch.. dual boards are sexy |
| 06:30.29 | Latte_Ninja | how come i've never heard of capacitor plague? is it not that common |
| 06:30.30 | Latte_Ninja | ? |
| 06:30.40 | furrywolf | latte: it's sadly rather common. |
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| 06:31.03 | MoneyMan | Latte_Ninja: my lappy had capacitor problems.. |
| 06:31.07 | spauldo | you probably haven't heard of it 'cause most people just say "bad motherboard" |
| 06:31.21 | furrywolf | latte: http://www.badcaps.net/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_Plague http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/feb03/ncap.html |
| 06:31.24 | deadcat | fm: works for me |
| 06:31.50 | deadcat | fm: homer:x:1004:2::/home/homer:/bin/bash |
| 06:32.16 | Latte_Ninja | i knew this room would be helpful |
| 06:32.49 | MoneyMan | Latte_Ninja: dont worry.. it was easy for us to send you down the wrong track :) Weeeeeee.. |
| 06:32.56 | furrywolf | moneyman: dual board, far more sexier with new shiny Nichicon low-esr caps: http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/p1010002-small-a.jpg (took about 3 hours that one did! 22 new caps total) |
| 06:33.01 | spauldo | eh, win some, lose some. Speaking of which, no one knows the layout of a sparc install disk? |
| 06:33.19 | fm | deadcat, okay, let me couble check |
| 06:33.21 | deadcat | fm: are you on debian? are you using adduser? |
| 06:33.36 | felipe_ | spauldo try #sparc |
| 06:33.42 | furrywolf | latte: glad to help... I've seen sadly many boards with dead capacitors. |
| 06:33.53 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: Good deal man... |
| 06:33.53 | felipe_ | spauldo what machine do you have? |
| 06:33.57 | spauldo | felipe_: cool, I'll try that. Bitchx isn't good on channel lists |
| 06:34.02 | spauldo | sparcstation IPX |
| 06:34.46 | spauldo | don't have a sunos disk, and my only solaris disks are 8 (the version they stopped supporting the IPX), so it's linux or BSD. |
| 06:35.16 | furrywolf | moneyman: http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/p1010001-medium.jpg <== the whole board. note I used very high-quality capacitors, which are larger than the ultra-crap ones the boards came with, and tend to hit parts on the pci/agp cards... hence the four caps near the slots installed flat. |
| 06:35.38 | spauldo | thing is, the iso I got using jigdo just had the pool and dists directories on it - and I'm pretty sure there needs to be more than that. |
| 06:35.53 | felipe_ | are you having booting the cdrom? |
| 06:35.59 | spauldo | just making sure before I go off and download an iso image directly |
| 06:36.02 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: where were you when I needed you for Sony VAIO laptop capacitor problem.. |
| 06:36.09 | deadcat | spauldo: just get the iso. |
| 06:36.10 | spauldo | yeah, bad magic number |
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| 06:36.32 | felipe_ | make sure you have the right isos |
| 06:36.42 | furrywolf | moneyman: heh. desoldering caps is a pain. :) |
| 06:36.46 | deadcat | MoneyMan: what you running on the vaio? |
| 06:36.47 | felipe_ | installing linux on sparc is cool |
| 06:36.51 | felipe_ | debian :) |
| 06:37.07 | spauldo | yeah, they're the right ones all right |
| 06:37.10 | deadcat | felipe_: installing debian on a cobalt qube is cool (= |
| 06:37.16 | furrywolf | the ground plane absorbs heat remarkably well... I have to get 140 watts on some of those tiny solder pads to melt through the vias. |
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| 06:37.38 | MoneyMan | deadcat: I just installed windows 2k without head sensor shit.. works fine.. gave my laptop to my aunt... so its there now |
| 06:37.47 | spauldo | I'm going to try jidgo again - might have been a fluke. I'm low on disk space, so it might have had a problem there |
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| 06:38.08 | MoneyMan | *heat |
| 06:38.17 | deadcat | haha. i was like huh? |
| 06:38.46 | felipe_ | spauldo what are your machine's spec? |
| 06:38.47 | MoneyMan | deadcat: hahaha ... just removed a few DLL files.. all is good. |
| 06:38.53 | felipe_ | spauldo what are your machine's specs? |
| 06:39.20 | spauldo | felipe_: dunno about the proc. It's got 32 megs of ram, and I just put in a 4G drive to replace the 430M one that was in there |
| 06:39.31 | furrywolf | moneyman: http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/694d2/p1010011.jpg <== some of the old capacitors. :) |
| 06:39.58 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: How the hell do they get like that? |
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| 06:40.26 | furrywolf | the teapo capacitors (bottom center, dark green) are nasty, since they always fail with NO external signs... always a good idea to just replace every failure-prone capacitor regardless of what they look like. |
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| 06:40.34 | spauldo | felipe_: we're talkin' really old school here. The only older machines I have here is a vax, a commodore, and an IBM PC (new in box) |
| 06:40.41 | felipe_ | cool |
| 06:40.41 | dserban | Anyone know how to login as root, then bring up a user's detached screen session? |
| 06:40.46 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: If my MB did that I would drive to the corperate centers headquarters and beat them with their own motherboard.. |
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| 06:40.56 | Bleh | gah |
| 06:40.57 | deadcat | dserban: su - userid then screen -x |
| 06:41.13 | Bleh | im Latte_Ninja |
| 06:41.20 | dserban | deadcat, screen -x ... nice, wtf that's not in the man.. page |
| 06:41.23 | Bleh | can someone boot my old nick |
| 06:41.24 | dserban | err hold on.. |
| 06:41.26 | deadcat | Bleh: stop confusing people |
| 06:41.29 | dserban | deadcat, thanks. |
| 06:41.43 | furrywolf | moneyman: a few years ago, an electrolyte manufacturer stole an electrolyte forumla from another company, and got it wrong. they then sold this faulty electrolyte to all the fly-by-night chinese capacitor makers... the motherboard companies, looking for the cheapest parts possible, bought these cheap capacitors... |
| 06:41.44 | deadcat | dserban: yes it is (=. |
| 06:41.47 | nipplesrulz | ok |
| 06:41.54 | nipplesrulz | lets try this again i guess :/ |
| 06:42.12 | dserban | deadcat, Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/4' - please check. |
| 06:42.13 | nipplesrulz | im now running debian instead of fasdasdfaweoriwerjebilwindows |
| 06:42.19 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: LOL I bet they went out of buisness fast.. |
| 06:42.22 | Bleh | MoneyMan can i show you some pics just to make sure it is my capacitors? |
| 06:42.26 | deadcat | dserban: screen -ls |
| 06:42.29 | dserban | Hrrm, I've tried and that's what I always get |
| 06:42.30 | furrywolf | moneyman: the faulty formula causes hydrogen gas to be produced, causing them to flat out explode, blow the rubber plugs out the bottom, or leak out the top or bottom of the capacitor from the pressure. |
| 06:42.36 | nipplesrulz | when i run skype i hear no echo's but the ppl i talk to do hear echos |
| 06:42.37 | MoneyMan | sure.. just post link.. |
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| 06:42.48 | dserban | deadcat, k, now do I use the number provided? |
| 06:42.53 | furrywolf | note the dome-shaped tops... those are aluminum. the pressure was high enough to bend the aluminum before they started venting... |
| 06:43.01 | nipplesrulz | i have a 2000+ 1.667ghz amd with 768 ram and a soundblaster 2 audigy card |
| 06:43.06 | Bleh | oh and thankyou very much for your time, help and patience MoneyMan |
| 06:43.11 | nipplesrulz | and im using gnome for my gui |
| 06:43.11 | deadcat | dserban: ya. screen -r pid should do the trick |
| 06:43.17 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: damn man didnt they have fucking any chemists at their company? |
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| 06:43.21 | dserban | deadcat, thanks I'll try it. |
| 06:43.24 | furrywolf | bleh: thank you moneyman? wasn't I the one who found it? :) |
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| 06:43.33 | MoneyMan | Bleh furrywolf is the genius here.. i didnt do anything |
| 06:43.37 | nipplesrulz | does anyone know why the other user would hear the echo>? and why i dont hear the echo's etc? |
| 06:43.38 | Bleh | ah ok |
| 06:43.38 | deadcat | hahahah |
| 06:43.41 | Bleh | woops |
| 06:43.41 | deadcat | it was me |
| 06:43.44 | furrywolf | moneyman: http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/p1010040-close.jpg <== those ones actually exploded out the tops |
| 06:43.44 | deadcat | i helped (= |
| 06:43.46 | danwolf | OK, I have an LCD monitor and I cannot get into a screen res higher than 1024 |
| 06:43.46 | Bleh | well thanks to you all |
| 06:43.50 | danwolf | any help? |
| 06:43.53 | furrywolf | bleh: glad to help. :) |
| 06:44.00 | furrywolf | danwolf: furry? :) |
| 06:44.01 | dserban | deadcat, :( same error. Cannot open your terminal on /dev/pts/4. |
| 06:44.09 | danwolf | furrywolf: furry? |
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| 06:44.15 | furrywolf | of course. :) |
| 06:44.17 | Bleh | even if you guys are yankees |
| 06:44.21 | Bleh | you seem ok |
| 06:44.22 | Bleh | ;) |
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| 06:44.24 | MoneyMan | Bleh: GIVE ME YOUR FIRST BORN CHILD AND WERE EVEN |
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| 06:44.33 | danwolf | i tried putting it in XFree86 |
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| 06:44.34 | Bleh | LMAO! |
| 06:44.38 | buu | danwolf: YES! |
| 06:44.39 | danwolf | but no go |
| 06:44.40 | furrywolf | bleh: /me is a yankee with faux fur ears and a tail, even. :P |
| 06:44.49 | danwolf | buu: huh? didnt work |
| 06:44.52 | MoneyMan | bleh: A's fan here.. |
| 06:44.53 | buu | furrywolf: Real men kill their own fur. |
| 06:44.55 | deadcat | dserban: interesting. |
| 06:44.55 | Bleh | MoneyMan my children would be a curse on you |
| 06:44.58 | dserban | deadcat, this is through an ssh session. |
| 06:45.00 | hogballs | what room do i goto to learn how to hack a windows guest account on my network? |
| 06:45.12 | danwolf | buu: can you help me get a higher res? |
| 06:45.16 | buu | danwolf: No |
| 06:45.20 | furrywolf | moneyman: notice the tops of those exploded such that you can see inside the capacitor. :) |
| 06:45.21 | danwolf | buu: ok... |
| 06:45.21 | MoneyMan | bleh: lol... good deal.. well cherish what you got.. even though sometimes its hard to see ;) |
| 06:45.21 | deadcat | dserban: should be no problem i ssh to my desktop and screen -r all the time. |
| 06:45.31 | danwolf | furrywolf: can you help me get a higher res? |
| 06:45.45 | deadcat | danwolf: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 06:45.47 | MoneyMan | furrywolf: can see that... thats fucking dirty man ;P |
| 06:45.52 | danwolf | hmm? |
| 06:45.55 | hogballs | is there such thing as a hacking noob room ? |
| 06:45.55 | danwolf | I will try that |
| 06:46.07 | deadcat | danwolf: did you select higher reso? |
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| 06:46.15 | deadcat | hogballs: #gentoo |
| 06:46.15 | MoneyMan | How do I change my name in channel without accessing program. I mean is there a /name command? |
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| 06:46.26 | dserban | deadcat, hmm, I'll go look at the pts entries... though changing permissions is probably not recommended heh... |
| 06:46.26 | deadcat | MoneyMan: /nick ? |
| 06:46.32 | Xenguy | ignore ignore ignore |
| 06:46.59 | furrywolf | moneyman: no, that's not dirty. http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/p1010022-small.jpg <== THAT's dirty. the capacitors there blew the rubber plugs out the bottom, spraying electrolyte all over the board. |
| 06:47.18 | deadcat | furrywolf: what cam you using? realy nice quality |
| 06:47.33 | furrywolf | moneyman: /nick whatever |
| 06:47.41 | furrywolf | deadcat: olympus d-550 |
| 06:47.56 | dserban | deadcat, crw--w---- 1 rdc tty 136, 3 Apr 22 04:18 3 |
| 06:47.56 | dserban | crw------- 1 dserban tty 136, 4 Apr 23 06:47 4 |
| 06:47.56 | deadcat | furrywolf: mps? |
| 06:48.10 | danwolf | deadcat: "Please enter the video card's bus identifier" |
| 06:48.11 | furrywolf | deadcat: http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/p1010040.jpg <== the whole photo the exploded-cap pic was cropped from |
| 06:48.12 | deadcat | dserban: but you su -s dserban already right? |
| 06:48.14 | danwolf | deadcat: whats that? |
| 06:48.21 | deadcat | danwolf: just ignore the stuff you dont know |
| 06:48.27 | danwolf | hmm |
| 06:48.27 | dserban | deadcat, I login as myself dserban, then su - to root... |
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| 06:48.33 | Bleh | http://www.geocities.com/plenum_2002/cap1.jpg |
| 06:48.37 | Bleh | http://www.geocities.com/plenum_2002/cap2.jpg |
| 06:48.45 | deadcat | dserban: if you login as yourself. just screen -r |
| 06:48.45 | Bleh | theres my capacitors |
| 06:48.46 | dserban | deadcat, seems ownership belongs to the ssh session. |
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| 06:49.01 | dserban | deadcat, but I want to screen -r another user's screen ;) |
| 06:49.11 | furrywolf | bleh: yep, those are definitely toasted. |
| 06:49.18 | deadcat | dserban: ohhhhhhhhh... |
| 06:49.20 | Bleh | excellent! |
| 06:49.38 | deadcat | dserban: you need that person to setup something to enable you to screen -x on them. (= |
| 06:49.41 | Bleh | not good really, but good to know |
| 06:49.44 | furrywolf | bleh: http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/694d2/p1010011.jpg <== compare yours to the ones on the last board I replaced all the caps on. :) |
| 06:49.45 | danwolf | deadcat: how do I tell my monitor's horizontal and vertical sync? |
| 06:49.45 | Bleh | thanks furrywolf |
| 06:49.54 | dserban | Ahh... well I'm root. :) |
| 06:49.58 | deadcat | danwolf: it will ask. you select medium |
| 06:50.08 | danwolf | k |
| 06:50.10 | deadcat | dserban: doesnt matter this case hehe |
| 06:50.25 | Bleh | danwolf some montors have the sync numbers on the back of them |
| 06:50.35 | Bleh | in fact most do |
| 06:51.14 | dserban | deadcat, ahh... :( too bad, the user has no shell acces ... it's just a game server that doesn't daemonize... and only screen can be used to detach it from the prompt. |
| 06:51.33 | furrywolf | bleh: I'd recommend not using the system any further unless absolutely neccessary... sometimes the capacitors fail by shorting. when they short, they take the VRM with them. and sometimes the VRM then takes out the cpu, ram, and half the other parts in the system... |
| 06:51.35 | dserban | deadcat, if I peruse the man page again... is it in there? |
| 06:51.52 | deadcat | dserban: knock yourself out (= |
| 06:52.00 | Bleh | oh god! how dusty is my puter??? THE SHAME! |
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| 06:52.12 | danwolf | deadcat: ok, I went through that and installed the higher res's, but when I try to select a new res, the highest it has is 1024 |
| 06:52.29 | furrywolf | I've seen photos of boards with half the parts on them black (i.e. let the smoke out) due to failing capacitors taking out the vrms... |
| 06:52.54 | dserban | Bleh, furrywolf ... you both must've owned gigabyte motherboards. |
| 06:52.54 | valdyn | danwolf: google for a manual if you dont have one |
| 06:52.57 | deadcat | danwolf: your lcd can only handle 1024 right? |
| 06:53.09 | dserban | deadcat, heh... yeah... I've already spent countless "minutes" ;) |
| 06:53.26 | furrywolf | dserban: actually, the capacitor problem has happened to just about every brand... MSI, asus, abit, FIC, even intel... |
| 06:53.27 | danwolf | deadcat: no in windows I had it higher |
| 06:53.37 | deadcat | danwolf: ah. |
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| 06:53.46 | furrywolf | (yes, some intel boards were shipped with insta-explode caps on them) |
| 06:54.20 | kreg | can apache allow directory listing (option indexes) for specific directories? i just turned the option off for all. |
| 06:54.48 | furrywolf | dserban: the photos I've pasted of some of the boards I've done were two MSI boards, a FIC board, and a Gainward board. |
| 06:54.56 | MoneyManbrb5 | furrywolf: LoL.. you should TradeMark that.. Insta explode capacitors.. |
| 06:55.00 | deadcat | kreg: yes. |
| 06:55.15 | kreg | easily? |
| 06:55.16 | dserban | furrywolf, hmm, I've had capacitor problems with a certain giga-byte model. Never had an msi problem so far. |
| 06:55.26 | dserban | furrywolf, would you know what causes it? |
| 06:55.35 | kreg | googly no helpy so far. but i also suck at consulting it. |
| 06:56.12 | valdyn | there was or is a "black" market for capacitors, ( wrongly labeled trash caps ), probably all mainboard producers fell for it at some point |
| 06:56.21 | danwolf | deadcat: any ideas? |
| 06:56.21 | furrywolf | dserban: > moneyman: a few years ago, an electrolyte manufacturer stole an electrolyte forumla from another company, and got it wrong. they then sold this faulty electrolyte to all the fly-by-night chinese capacitor makers... the motherboard companies, looking for the cheapest parts possible, bought these cheap capacitors... |
| 06:56.33 | deadcat | danwolf: nope. |
| 06:56.39 | danwolf | ok thanks |
| 06:56.45 | furrywolf | dserban: > moneyman: the faulty formula causes hydrogen gas to be produced, causing them to flat out explode, blow the rubber plugs out the bottom, or leak out the top or bottom of the capacitor from the pressure. |
| 06:57.02 | furrywolf | copy+paste good. :) |
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| 06:57.39 | dserban | hmmm... interesting. |
| 06:58.03 | deadcat | dserban: man screen and search for acladd |
| 06:58.04 | dserban | furrywolf, I've had everything from video cards to motherboards blow up. Due to the capacitors leaking. |
| 06:58.09 | MoneyManbrb5 | furrywolf: did u get my message when I asked if they had chemists in their place.. I mean anyone who knows shit about chemistry should know that reaction should take place. |
| 06:58.14 | dserban | deadcat, doing... |
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| 06:58.48 | furrywolf | on capacitors like Bleh's, the safety vents operated as designed, allowing the electrolyte to bubble out the top. On the ones in the photo I pasted where you could see inside the caps, the safety vents didn't work, and the cap ruptured... those ones went out with a audible "POP!". |
| 06:59.12 | furrywolf | moneyman: I don't know if they had chemists or not, but I'd guess not. :P |
| 06:59.26 | furrywolf | http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/feb03/ncap.html <== IEEE article on bad caps |
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| 06:59.51 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone else watch TNT? |
| 06:59.59 | TwistedEmotions | <--- MoneyMan |
| 07:00.14 | TwistedEmotions | *watching TNT |
| 07:00.22 | Bleh | this explains all the wierd blue screening i've been getting too |
| 07:00.27 | furrywolf | that ieee article is a bit old... since that article was written, it's been discovered that the problem was even more widespread than they though. |
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| 07:00.32 | furrywolf | s/though/thought |
| 07:00.52 | Bleh | it seems these capacitors filter the power supply to the cpu and when it gets spiked it freaks the cpu |
| 07:00.59 | furrywolf | dserban: yep, I've seen bad video card caps too. and bad power supply caps... |
| 07:01.05 | Bleh | although im sure you guys knew that |
| 07:01.11 | TwistedEmotions | Bleh: nothing but microsofts incompetence can explain those blue screens |
| 07:01.25 | briareus | amen to that |
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| 07:01.57 | TwistedEmotions | Jesus I need 2 learn to spell.. |
| 07:02.04 | TwistedEmotions | *to |
| 07:02.05 | furrywolf | bleh: exactly. the VRMs are switching supplies, and the capacitors smooth out the ripple... as the caps fail, the ripple voltage goes WAY up. so rather than operating, at, say, a constant 1.7v vcore, your CPU might instead be running off a voltage jumping between 1v and 3v... |
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| 07:03.30 | furrywolf | what can happen, which is why you should NOT use a board once the caps start to fail, is either the capacitors short-circuit, or the VRM gets fried due to the excessive ripple. when this happens, the mosfets in the VRM short. and when the mosfets on the vrm short, they dump +12v directly onto the cpu, ram, etc. lots of black smoke... |
| 07:03.49 | TwistedEmotions | furrywolf... uhh.. now that u mention it my CPU Voltage is 1.38 and my 3.3 Volt line is at 3.23 and my 5v line is at 4.95 and my 12 V line is at 11.95 |
| 07:03.53 | briareus | you let the smoke out |
| 07:04.03 | TwistedEmotions | So new power supply or caps? |
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| 07:04.13 | Bleh | furrywolf which might explain the slightly high cpu temp as well |
| 07:04.14 | furrywolf | twisted: those power supply voltages are fine. |
| 07:04.21 | TwistedEmotions | Oh.. ok |
| 07:04.38 | furrywolf | twisted: those caps are quite thouroughly fried. they probably have 1/10th or less their original capacitance. |
| 07:05.21 | TwistedEmotions | no I know my caps dont look like those you showed me... but just figured might need a higher wattage power pussy. |
| 07:05.27 | TwistedEmotions | ****whoooops |
| 07:05.30 | TwistedEmotions | supply |
| 07:05.34 | furrywolf | http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=211 <== the official "THIS is why you never ignore bad caps" thread... note the blackened motherboard, the MELTED ram, etc. |
| 07:05.40 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: HAHAHAH. |
| 07:05.54 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: atleast its not "hard dick" |
| 07:06.01 | TwistedEmotions | hahhahaha |
| 07:06.04 | Bleh | i guess im lucky that my computer still works at all |
| 07:06.11 | TwistedEmotions | were u there when I got banned? |
| 07:06.18 | Bleh | i always type "be back in a sex" |
| 07:06.24 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no. my friend typed that once. |
| 07:06.25 | furrywolf | bleh: just get a new motherboard. all will be well. |
| 07:06.57 | Bleh | furrywolf its 8am here as soon as its 9 im off to the shops |
| 07:07.11 | furrywolf | it's midnight here... I need to get up in 7 hours... need sleep. |
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| 07:07.41 | TwistedEmotions | Ohhh.. this morning some admins name in filelist.org IRC channel name was harridic and someone said I eat harridic for breakfast.. so I asked why do u eat hard dick for breakfast? then I got banned |
| 07:07.53 | TwistedEmotions | I got back in though.. |
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| 07:08.04 | TwistedEmotions | cause I upload like a mofo on their site. |
| 07:08.20 | deadcat | hahah |
| 07:08.39 | TwistedEmotions | 1+ Terrabyte upload in their site so he let it go.. |
| 07:08.46 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 07:09.01 | furrywolf | bbl, sleep time. I've told people enough about exploding capacitors for one night. :) |
| 07:09.04 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. either upload 1T or suck his dick (= |
| 07:09.23 | TwistedEmotions | furrywolf: gg man.. later ;) gnite |
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| 07:09.48 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: haha.. yeah well.. thats why I rent a virtual private server so I dont have to blow anyone |
| 07:09.49 | deadcat | furrywolf: ya. TwistedEmotions is a fed. |
| 07:09.58 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: haha |
| 07:10.01 | TwistedEmotions | heh? |
| 07:10.19 | TwistedEmotions | Twisted is a fed? dont get the joke? |
| 07:10.27 | deadcat | nothing. |
| 07:10.31 | TwistedEmotions | lol.. kk |
| 07:10.47 | TwistedEmotions | I dont like my job joked about. took me a while to be a fed |
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| 07:11.12 | furrywolf | bbl. I want my 7 hours! :P |
| 07:11.38 | TwistedEmotions | furrywolf: want me to tuck u in? |
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| 07:11.54 | furrywolf | twisted: umm. ni. :P |
| 07:11.56 | furrywolf | no |
| 07:12.05 | TwistedEmotions | furrywolf: tell you bedtime story about capacitors and overclocking. |
| 07:12.07 | Luke | what's the "debian" way to change my timezone? |
| 07:12.08 | TwistedEmotions | hehe |
| 07:12.10 | TwistedEmotions | kk |
| 07:12.11 | dserban | deadcat, doing... |
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| 07:12.16 | dserban | err |
| 07:12.23 | dserban | furrywolf, thanks for the pointers. |
| 07:12.35 | dserban | I'll get the 12 boards at the office replaced asap. |
| 07:12.40 | furrywolf | dserban: always glad to help. |
| 07:12.46 | TwistedEmotions | furry: lol.. im straight too.. just bad with joke ;P |
| 07:12.50 | dserban | furrywolf, pretty good reads. |
| 07:13.05 | furrywolf | and if the boards are modern, feel free to dispose of them by sending them to me. I always need more boards. especially if the cpus come with them. :P |
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| 07:13.29 | TwistedEmotions | yeah he takes motherboards and I take cash. ;) |
| 07:14.04 | nagual | i just realized something. since this server is located in us id commit a fellony by saying 'i am going to kill the president of the united states' here. |
| 07:14.17 | Bleh | ok im not buying an asus then |
| 07:14.32 | buu | nagual: That's not really a felony |
| 07:14.38 | TwistedEmotions | Bleh: Im assuming those caps were replaced by now. |
| 07:14.50 | nagual | buu: how do you know that? |
| 07:14.52 | valdyn | Bleh: bad caps wasnt a brand specific problem |
| 07:14.55 | TwistedEmotions | nagual: just do it.. I hate people who just talk.. |
| 07:15.12 | nagual | TwistedEmotions: what makes you think i care about whom yo uhate? |
| 07:15.17 | Bleh | im just reading some stuff on the forums |
| 07:15.32 | TwistedEmotions | nagual: cause I assume you hate bush.. so why not. ;) |
| 07:15.47 | nagual | TwistedEmotions: any day you care to answer my qeustion will be fine. |
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| 07:16.26 | TwistedEmotions | nagual: Why wouldnt you.. I mean I'm damn near the most amazing man in here so why not... |
| 07:16.40 | Luke | what's the "debian" way to change my timezone? |
| 07:16.47 | nagual | TwistedEmotions: the more you talk the more you answer my question actually. |
| 07:16.53 | shanky | hi |
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| 07:17.06 | deadcat | Luke: tzconfig |
| 07:17.07 | pwned | deadcat: the 3c59x problem was fixed when I restarted with a 2.6 kernel. Default 2.4's module was too old for my new card |
| 07:17.16 | pwned | I am typing about the debian netinstall cd problem |
| 07:17.16 | Luke | deadcat: thanks |
| 07:17.18 | deadcat | pwned: ah. |
| 07:17.20 | TwistedEmotions | nagual: you got a problem bud? Just made a joke.. |
| 07:17.41 | shanky | I'm really new in debian, and I have been looking for the way of get a list of installed packages in my system |
| 07:17.51 | nagual | TwistedEmotions: i dont have any problems |
| 07:17.58 | deadcat | shanky: dpkg -l or dpkg --get-selections |
| 07:18.13 | TwistedEmotions | nagual: ;) me too.. so were fine. |
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| 07:19.13 | TwistedEmotions | how do u figure out what build of a OS you have again? |
| 07:19.25 | shanky | deadcat: I thought it was a cuestion of apt-get |
| 07:19.29 | shanky | many thanks |
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| 07:20.47 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone? |
| 07:21.06 | deadcat | uname -a |
| 07:21.46 | sudo|chmod | I want to install the development packages for X ... what are the package names that I need |
| 07:21.57 | deadcat | whatever-dev |
| 07:22.09 | sudo|chmod | I was suggested x11-devel or XFree86-devel |
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| 07:22.24 | deadcat | sudo|chmod: apt-cache search package dev |
| 07:22.29 | TwistedEmotions | thanks deadcat |
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| 07:22.37 | manchot | when I try to lauchn an X11 program from root console, I got this error: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 07:22.40 | manchot | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 07:22.42 | lord_of_scorn | hello |
| 07:22.52 | deadcat | manchot: you either use sudo or install sux |
| 07:22.54 | manchot | how to make root have access to Xwindow from a user's console? |
| 07:23.12 | deadcat | manchot: you su - as regular user right? |
| 07:23.17 | deadcat | lord_of_scorn: what up? |
| 07:23.44 | lord_of_scorn | i have copilled the kernel 2.6.11-7 and now i boot and i see kernel panic - not syncing:Attempted to kill ini! |
| 07:24.01 | lord_of_scorn | i have no idea where the matter is :) |
| 07:24.07 | deadcat | lord_of_scorn: initrd.img? |
| 07:24.16 | lord_of_scorn | i have made it |
| 07:24.33 | deadcat | lord_of_scorn: grub has that line? |
| 07:24.36 | lord_of_scorn | with : mkinitrd /boot/initrd.2.6.11-7 |
| 07:24.42 | lord_of_scorn | deadcat: yes |
| 07:24.43 | TwistedEmotions | Gnite all... time for a nap nap.. |
| 07:24.48 | deadcat | later |
| 07:24.54 | TwistedEmotions | later |
| 07:24.59 | deadcat | lord_of_scorn: then you're fucked i guess (= |
| 07:25.05 | lord_of_scorn | if i delete that line i got VFS kernel panic etc ... |
| 07:25.12 | lord_of_scorn | deadcat somehow :9 |
| 07:25.34 | deadcat | lord_of_scorn: i build initrd into the kernel so i never have to mess with mkinitrd |
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| 07:26.15 | lord_of_scorn | deadcat: can i do it in the configuration (by doing make menuconfig) ??? |
| 07:26.50 | deadcat | lord_of_scorn: ya |
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| 07:27.09 | lord_of_scorn | kay i will try thanks |
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| 07:27.40 | pwned | I wonder why wms and other graphical applications don't have X dependancy |
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| 07:28.08 | pwned | on gentoo if you installed something like kopete, the whole base kde and X would get installed |
| 07:28.14 | valdyn | pwned: they do, but they dont depend on an xserver |
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| 07:28.32 | pwned | well the point is, they don't run when you install them =P |
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| 07:28.53 | valdyn | pwned: well, you need an xserver but that server could be on a different computer. |
| 07:29.02 | pwned | ah |
| 07:29.06 | valdyn | pwned: which is why those packages dont depend on one |
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| 07:29.13 | pwned | valdyn: ok that's a valid point |
| 07:29.23 | pharaonic_anubis | How do I use the "mail" app to read and reply to mail? |
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| 07:29.36 | pharaonic_anubis | I can't seem to figure out how to open a message in my /var/mail |
| 07:30.13 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: mutt |
| 07:30.14 | pwned | cat /var/mail/*|more :D |
| 07:30.34 | valdyn | pwned: all the x stuff is in one big source tarball, debians X team does quite some work to split it up into many binary packages, gentoo obviously needs the whole source |
| 07:30.36 | deadcat | pwned: what make you think mail will be in /var/mail? (= |
| 07:30.53 | pwned | dunno, I never read system mails before |
| 07:30.54 | gnufan | deadcat, you think he'll work mutt if mail is too hard?!?! |
| 07:31.06 | valdyn | pwned: like, try "apt-get source xterm" |
| 07:31.12 | pharaonic_anubis | wow, deadcat... mutt works excellently. Thanks. |
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| 07:31.37 | deadcat | gnufan: ah. i thought he wants to read "mail" (= |
| 07:31.38 | pwned | woo 62.7mb |
| 07:31.51 | Luke | does anyone know of a good bbkeys config guide... or is there a way to get bbkeysconfig on debian? |
| 07:32.06 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: mail/elm/pine are for unix losers. |
| 07:33.06 | deadcat | Luke: if you have to use blackblox. you on your own |
| 07:33.16 | naoliv | How do I clean the actions on aptitude? For example, If I say to it upgrade some packages but I quit the program. If I run it again, it remembers that the packages are going to be upgraded. How do I make aptitude forget all actions? |
| 07:33.29 | simonrvn | Luke: take one of the other bb packages as a starting point to build the bbkeysconfig and make a .deb |
| 07:33.52 | lord_of_scorn | deadcat: ok it's already configured the Initial Ram disk support so i delete the initrd line in grub and give you the kernel panic message :) |
| 07:33.58 | pharaonic_anubis | mail/elm/pine... not familiar with that. |
| 07:34.20 | pwned | naoliv: try pressing f, it should forget new packages |
| 07:34.31 | pwned | at least it says so in the menu.. |
| 07:34.33 | deadcat | lord_of_scorn: hmm. must be bad menuconfig (= |
| 07:35.05 | naoliv | [pwned]: Right, I will try that. Thanks. |
| 07:35.07 | simonrvn | opqdonut: not bad the theme (irssi) :) |
| 07:35.17 | valdyn | Luke: try bbconf |
| 07:35.19 | lord_of_scorn | what should i enter or do you have a link where i can read this or a howto deadcat ? |
| 07:35.29 | Luke | valdyn: thanks |
| 07:35.32 | pharaonic_anubis | Which version of Deb is everyone using? |
| 07:35.40 | pharaonic_anubis | I don't wanna be using an old version. haha. |
| 07:35.54 | deadcat | lord_of_scorn: did you start with a debian kernel .config? |
| 07:35.59 | valdyn | !d-i pharaonic_anubis |
| 07:36.01 | dpkg | pharaonic_anubis, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 07:36.15 | dli | any mpi users? |
| 07:36.22 | dli | mpich |
| 07:36.29 | lord_of_scorn | deadcat: i have never touch a .config file .... |
| 07:36.43 | deadcat | lord_of_scorn: how the hell you compile? |
| 07:36.58 | naoliv | [pwned]: No. Didn't work... :-( |
| 07:37.13 | pharaonic_anubis | dpkg, what all does the Netinstall contain in it, does it have GNOME etc? |
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| 07:37.20 | lord_of_scorn | deadcat: make menuconfig && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install |
| 07:37.46 | deadcat | lord_of_scorn: apt-get install kernel-package then man make-kpkg |
| 07:37.47 | Luke | valdyn: there is no bbconf package |
| 07:38.01 | deadcat | Luke: yes there is |
| 07:38.12 | Luke | deadcat: what repository? |
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| 07:38.37 | deadcat | Luke: debian |
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| 07:38.49 | Luke | deadcat: hmm i dont see it |
| 07:38.50 | valdyn | Luke: i only know it from a quick search in sid, its probably only in sid |
| 07:39.01 | deadcat | Luke: try packages.debian.org |
| 07:39.01 | Luke | i'm on sarge |
| 07:39.13 | Luke | deadcat: how do i try that? |
| 07:39.17 | valdyn | !why is bbconf not in testing |
| 07:39.18 | dpkg | bbconf is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=bbconf |
| 07:39.26 | valdyn | !quick sid/sarge mix |
| 07:39.26 | dpkg | hmm... quick sid/sarge mix is echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf, open sources.list, duplicate your sarge lines and change one set to sid. then apt-get update, apt-get -t unstable install foo to install foo from sid rather than sarge (e.g. nvidia-glx) |
| 07:39.30 | pharaonic_anubis | I can't imagine the netinst has very many packages with it. |
| 07:39.42 | deadcat | Luke: just pick it up from unstable |
| 07:39.49 | deadcat | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=unstable&release=all&keywords=bbconf |
| 07:40.01 | valdyn | !simple sid backport |
| 07:40.02 | dpkg | rumour has it, simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :) |
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| 07:40.26 | deadcat | just wget the .deb and dpkg -i, if fail. remove it |
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| 07:42.06 | pharaonic_anubis | Oh I see. So the netinst will only install a base system and everything else will need to be downloaded. |
| 07:42.11 | pharaonic_anubis | Hmm, could get tricky on my dialup. |
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| 07:42.16 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: hella |
| 07:42.21 | deadcat | you;re fucked (= |
| 07:43.03 | pharaonic_anubis | Nah, got Sarge ordered on DVD. Should be here soon hopefully. |
| 07:43.26 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: by the time you get it. pkgs are out of date (= |
| 07:43.29 | deadcat | even for sarge heheh |
| 07:43.49 | pharaonic_anubis | That is granted. |
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| 07:45.09 | pharaonic_anubis | I assume everyone hear hates distros based on debian? |
| 07:45.55 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: no. i like knoppix dsl ubuntu. i just dont install them on my box |
| 07:45.58 | manchot | when configure liloconfig, I am prompted with the following question: |
| 07:46.07 | deadcat | manchot: dont use lilo |
| 07:46.09 | manchot | Searching for installed kernels and updating image entries ... |
| 07:46.14 | manchot | The following is the list of the available bitmaps: |
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| 07:46.29 | manchot | my question is which bitmaps to choose? |
| 07:46.31 | pharaonic_anubis | That is cool deadcat. I have seen Ubuntu before... seems to be fair. |
| 07:46.43 | pharaonic_anubis | Never witnessed Knoppix though. |
| 07:46.47 | manchot | deadcat: I am using grub now, but after I compiled a kernel, I got kernel panic |
| 07:46.50 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: for normal user ya. |
| 07:47.05 | pharaonic_anubis | Ubuntu won't do advanced stuff deadcat? |
| 07:47.05 | deadcat | manchot: whats that got to do with the loader? |
| 07:47.14 | nipplesrulz | ok |
| 07:47.17 | nipplesrulz | im convinced |
| 07:47.19 | nipplesrulz | debian |
| 07:47.20 | nipplesrulz | sucks |
| 07:47.21 | nipplesrulz | ass |
| 07:47.28 | nipplesrulz | because something simple as skype |
| 07:47.30 | nipplesrulz | wont work |
| 07:47.32 | nipplesrulz | ! |
| 07:47.40 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: it does. just debian is more flexable. like i can trim my system down to the base and stuff |
| 07:47.41 | nipplesrulz | and in windows it works great the first time |
| 07:47.46 | nipplesrulz | and frankly |
| 07:47.46 | deadcat | !tell nipplesrulz about enter |
| 07:47.52 | nipplesrulz | i know about enter |
| 07:47.58 | nipplesrulz | but the other way i get no help |
| 07:48.00 | Phated | A bit too well. |
| 07:48.01 | nipplesrulz | for days on end |
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| 07:48.05 | pharaonic_anubis | oh ok. I was gonna say, no way the Ubuntu peeps would strip out anything advanced. |
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| 07:48.42 | manchot | deadcat: it has to do i assume, because, under grub's command mode, I can boot with that kernel, but when using menu.lst, I got kernel panic |
| 07:49.30 | deadcat | manchot: you maybe missing a line maybe. initrd line? |
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| 07:50.16 | deadcat | gentooguy: #gentoo is down the hall. just make a left bro |
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| 07:50.54 | gentooguy | deadcat: no thanks I think I will stay |
| 07:50.55 | manchot | deadcat: missing an initrd line can cause kernel panic? |
| 07:51.02 | deadcat | gentooguy: oh girl (= |
| 07:51.09 | deadcat | manchot: ya (= |
| 07:51.20 | pharaonic_anubis | initrd? heck yes it will. |
| 07:51.29 | deadcat | manchot: i get that all the time before switching to initrd buildin |
| 07:52.13 | manchot | deadcat: I used mkintrd to generate a initrd, and I have it in menu.lst |
| 07:52.31 | deadcat | hmm |
| 07:52.34 | nipplesrulz | so |
| 07:52.35 | manchot | deadcat: seems I still have kernel panic |
| 07:52.38 | gentooguy | anyone know if there is a debian package for gxine the plugin |
| 07:52.42 | nipplesrulz | is there anyone that can actually fix this bitch? |
| 07:52.47 | gentooguy | I can't seem to get it installed on my debian box |
| 07:52.48 | nipplesrulz | pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 07:52.51 | deadcat | gentooguy: apt-cache search xine |
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| 07:53.05 | gentooguy | did that gxine doesn't show up there but I have xine installed |
| 07:53.25 | gentooguy | just need the gxine plugin for firefox |
| 07:53.37 | manchot | when using liloconfig, which one to choose for bitmap? |
| 07:53.39 | manchot | 1. /boot/sarge.bmp |
| 07:53.39 | manchot | 2. /boot/sid.bmp |
| 07:53.42 | deadcat | gentooguy: theres a mplayer or vlc plugin for firefox |
| 07:53.51 | manchot | ...there are four options, and I am using sid |
| 07:54.00 | gentooguy | ok thanks I will try vlc |
| 07:54.25 | deadcat | manchot: i use sid and i dont have those. |
| 07:54.51 | manchot | deadcat: I am prompted to choose one, and I am confused |
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| 07:55.04 | pharaonic_anubis | deadcat, when you mentioned "trimming your system down" what did that mean? Getting rid of a lot of your packages? |
| 07:55.05 | deadcat | manchot: is this a clean debian install? |
| 07:55.20 | manchot | yes |
| 07:55.51 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: ya. i can use debfoster to remove all packages down to the base and install the stuff i want again. but ubuntu, you can, because the ubuntu-desktop package will remove everything |
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| 07:56.28 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: also the shits that ubuntu loads. i installed a DESKTOP. what the fuck i need pcmcia for. damn ass ubi |
| 07:57.00 | pharaonic_anubis | Heh, yah I heard it also installs linux-laptop by default on desktops also. |
| 07:57.16 | deadcat | hehe |
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| 07:57.56 | pharaonic_anubis | But hey, for people like my lame-o brother it is a good distro to probably get acclamated and go advanced... probably can get as advanced as he wants on Ubuntu if he pleases. |
| 07:58.10 | deadcat | ya. |
| 07:58.12 | pharaonic_anubis | You never know though... some people change their distro of choice a lot. |
| 07:58.23 | deadcat | its easy to upgrade too. (= |
| 07:58.29 | gentooguy | deadcat: I think I have a problem here, dselect says "mplayer-386 does not appear to be available" :/ uh oh |
| 07:58.45 | deadcat | gentooguy: dont use dselect. |
| 07:58.55 | deadcat | !tell gentooguy about marillat |
| 07:59.09 | nipplesrulz | lets see here |
| 07:59.17 | nipplesrulz | how does one go about stabbing everyone |
| 07:59.23 | nipplesrulz | @stab deadcat |
| 07:59.24 | nipplesrulz | dam |
| 07:59.34 | gentooguy | deadcat: thanks |
| 07:59.35 | deadcat | nipplesrulz: fuck you motherfucker. go eat shit fucknut |
| 07:59.42 | nipplesrulz | nice |
| 07:59.57 | techie | haha |
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| 08:00.57 | nipplesrulz | ok |
| 08:01.06 | nipplesrulz | is it possible to kill ALL sound driveers |
| 08:01.12 | nipplesrulz | then install just asla ones or something |
| 08:01.15 | nipplesrulz | and would that work |
| 08:01.16 | nipplesrulz | i mean |
| 08:01.22 | nipplesrulz | does anyone have a working skype? |
| 08:01.48 | deadcat | i like /ignore hehe. been using it alot lately |
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| 08:02.29 | pharaonic_anubis | deadcat, is /ignore your new friend? Heh. |
| 08:03.06 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: among few things (= |
| 08:03.38 | pharaonic_anubis | :D |
| 08:04.06 | pharaonic_anubis | You know what I figured out today? I suck at building some things from source. |
| 08:04.33 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: apt-get source package |
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| 08:04.50 | pharaonic_anubis | yah, I was gonna experiment with that tonight. |
| 08:04.58 | streuner | what's wrong wit the debian package? |
| 08:05.06 | streuner | with* |
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| 08:06.12 | MidgetSpy | does debian come with XFS/JFS support? |
| 08:06.13 | ho122 | how to format swap partition |
| 08:06.22 | deadcat | MidgetSpy: yes |
| 08:06.26 | streuner | MidgetSpy: sarge, yes |
| 08:06.29 | ho122 | how |
| 08:06.38 | deadcat | ho122: mkswap |
| 08:06.39 | streuner | man mkswap |
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| 08:06.54 | ho122 | i want its command |
| 08:07.00 | streuner | MidgetSpy: desktop or server? |
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| 08:07.12 | streuner | ho122: read the man page? |
| 08:07.13 | MidgetSpy | streuner: uh.. neither? ;-P |
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| 08:07.24 | MidgetSpy | MythTV front/back end |
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| 08:10.48 | bykte | anyone knows what /etc/resolv.conf for? |
| 08:10.58 | streuner | DNS |
| 08:11.04 | streuner | man resolv.conf |
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| 08:11.18 | streuner | bykte: do you use DHCP? |
| 08:11.21 | deadcat | bykte: wow. you DONT? |
| 08:12.15 | MidgetSpy | streuner: so sarge is the newer version... I have the 3.0 CDs atm (that's... woody?) |
| 08:12.21 | MidgetSpy | right? |
| 08:12.25 | deadcat | ya |
| 08:12.26 | streuner | yep |
| 08:12.36 | deadcat | MidgetSpy: sarge is testing. will be stable when its ready |
| 08:12.46 | pharaonic_anubis | Hmm, gonna try to build this from source using apt... hope it works. |
| 08:13.09 | MidgetSpy | deadcat: but does woody have XFS or JFS support? |
| 08:13.13 | streuner | seems a secret what package it is |
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| 08:13.20 | bykte | deadcat, sorry i dont thrive in linux environment |
| 08:13.31 | streuner | MidgetSpy: /msg dpkg ig |
| 08:13.39 | deadcat | bykte: you dont have th thrive to know resolv.conf |
| 08:14.17 | streuner | MidgetSpy: there are isos for XFS (woody) |
| 08:15.51 | pharaonic_anubis | Hmm, how should I go about building the source if I download the source off of a website? |
| 08:16.01 | MidgetSpy | streuner: on the official FTP mirrors? |
| 08:16.05 | bykte | i see |
| 08:16.07 | deadcat | pharaonic_anubis: untar and read the README and INATALL |
| 08:16.10 | bykte | it's a nameserver |
| 08:16.27 | pharaonic_anubis | Gotcha. |
| 08:16.29 | deadcat | bykte: it stores the list of nameservers. max 3 used |
| 08:16.49 | bykte | deadcat is it for local? |
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| 08:16.53 | streuner | MidgetSpy: /msg dpkg di |
| 08:17.02 | deadcat | bykte: local and remote. |
| 08:17.08 | bykte | i mean i suppose i could run a nameserver on the box itself and point the namserver locally |
| 08:17.25 | deadcat | bykte: ya. possible |
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| 08:17.36 | MidgetSpy | thanks streuner |
| 08:17.51 | pharaonic_anubis | Oh bother. |
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| 08:22.34 | BotServer | //quit $me == asshat |
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| 08:24.42 | tarzeau | o-o: ok |
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| 08:27.46 | HellMan | hellman |
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| 08:29.58 | TheMoebius | hey I'm trying to compile pearpc and it's saying "Could not find XOpenDisplay in -lX11" What does that mean? |
| 08:30.27 | streuner | !info pearpc |
| 08:30.39 | dpkg | pearpc: (PowerPC architecture emulator), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.3.1+1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 301 kB, Installed size: 812 kB |
| 08:30.49 | simonrvn | streuner: hehe |
| 08:31.03 | streuner | What's wrong with the debian package? |
| 08:31.17 | TheMoebius | oh man I searched for it and couldn't find it.... |
| 08:31.22 | TheMoebius | I'll look again |
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| 08:31.52 | streuner | TheMoebius: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
| 08:32.16 | amorphix | greetings |
| 08:32.43 | TheMoebius | streuner: I found it |
| 08:32.49 | TheMoebius | must have typed it wrong or something |
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| 08:33.11 | amorphix | i think xp hosed my lilo setup |
| 08:33.25 | amorphix | bootloader is gone |
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| 08:34.26 | TheMoebius | OK, so the pearpc package is installed, but I'm not sure where it put it. I can't find it in the Gnome menus and 'locate pearpc' doesn't return anything |
| 08:34.42 | dondelelcaro | amorphix: stick in your boot disk, boot, and rerun lilo then. |
| 08:34.52 | amorphix | ok thanks |
| 08:36.03 | amorphix | i just received a workstation thru the post from a chinese guy, he put tons of individual small value stamps all over it, very funny |
| 08:36.33 | streuner | !tell paco about root |
| 08:36.45 | amorphix | hi streuner |
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| 08:37.19 | uga | anyone got a clue why "sudo env" doesn't show the same PATH envvar? According to the manpage, it should keep it for the running command |
| 08:37.33 | streuner | amorphix: hi |
| 08:37.36 | amorphix | what is "esd" |
| 08:37.44 | amorphix | a sound server? |
| 08:37.47 | deadcat | ya |
| 08:37.51 | streuner | !esd |
| 08:37.51 | dpkg | well, esd is the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connect to a local esound daemon. AKA: Evil Sound Daemon, or "my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox |
| 08:37.51 | uga | it's also failing to run some programs out of /usr/bin, /usr/sbin... unless I specify full paths |
| 08:37.58 | amorphix | ahh |
| 08:38.00 | amorphix | thx |
| 08:38.08 | dondelelcaro | uga: sudo munges the path typically |
| 08:38.55 | uga | dondelelcaro: Then something is wrong in the docs: "Note, however, that the actual PATH environment variable is not modified and is passed unchanged to the program that sudo executes." |
| 08:39.55 | uga | also it's meant to search in the current user path, but it doesn't seem to.... it's so annoying |
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| 08:40.26 | uga | dondelelcaro: you know if there's any config file I can set for a custom path list? |
| 08:40.51 | uga | (it won't read profile) |
| 08:40.54 | deadcat | uga: /etc/profile |
| 08:40.59 | deadcat | /etc/login.defs |
| 08:41.01 | streuner | uga: sid? |
| 08:41.13 | uga | deadcat: uhmm... maybe. I'll try with login one |
| 08:41.21 | uga | streuner: unstable |
| 08:41.24 | dondelelcaro | uga: that's specifically for moving . and "" around. |
| 08:41.26 | deadcat | uga: what about .bash_profile |
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| 08:41.52 | flankk | http://toastytech.com/guis/bob2.html LMAO! |
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| 08:43.04 | uga | deadcat: nothing |
| 08:43.20 | deadcat | uga: /etc/profile works fine for me. |
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| 08:43.39 | uga | deadcat: not for bash, for sudo |
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| 08:43.56 | uga | sudo doesn't find programs in the whole of my PATH |
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| 08:44.13 | deadcat | uga: interesting. it finds mine |
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| 08:44.20 | uga | uhmm! |
| 08:44.50 | valdyn | uga: sudo is not responsible for setting the path, thats all you read and that sudo has to do with it. If you sudo however you will start a new shell, which in turn does what a "bash" does |
| 08:45.57 | amorphix | makes sense |
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| 08:46.22 | uga | valdyn: that's strange, because I login as root and I get the correct paths. I do "sudo su" and it's ok, but "sudo su -" doesn't read the paths from my /etc/profile |
| 08:46.35 | uga | that gives you any hint? I'm completely lost |
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| 08:46.39 | valdyn | uga: logging in is something else |
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| 08:46.48 | valdyn | uga: # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells. |
| 08:46.54 | uga | yes |
| 08:47.09 | uga | so basically I need to setup the paths for my root, with no bash |
| 08:47.12 | amorphix | i think im getting third degree burns from my Compaq M700..damn these things get hot! |
| 08:48.56 | dli | amorphix, from cpu heat sink? |
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| 08:49.13 | dli | any mpich2 users? |
| 08:49.20 | uga | valdyn: uhm... I can't figure out... where're those default paths loaded? the ones read even before the shell is run |
| 08:49.32 | uga | they seem to match those found by sudo |
| 08:49.32 | amorphix | dli: from the laptop itself on my lap |
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| 08:49.42 | valdyn | uga: your shell reads its config files |
| 08:49.55 | uga | valdyn: yes, but sudo doesn't seem to run my shell |
| 08:50.05 | uga | else "sudo env" would show the envvars right |
| 08:50.10 | valdyn | uga: sure it does |
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| 08:50.29 | lohhak | ghuady |
| 08:50.30 | dli | amorphix, oh, your fault, the zero law, a laptop shouldn't sit on the top of your lap |
| 08:50.38 | streuner | uga: did you look at BTS? |
| 08:50.41 | amorphix | :-P |
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| 08:51.02 | uga | valdyn: then something is broken here. I sudo su, and it's all fine, all envvars set correctly, but sudo cannot find the programs in my path |
| 08:51.19 | amorphix | i wish i'd bought the supercooled toshiba portege 3440 now |
| 08:51.30 | valdyn | uga: there _Sure_ is not global config file adding /sbin to your path, thats done by /root/.profile or /root/.bashrc |
| 08:51.37 | uga | streuner: Bureau of Transportation Statistics? =) Sorry, what's that? |
| 08:52.18 | amorphix | edit .bashr as user eh |
| 08:52.20 | streuner | !btssmite uga |
| 08:52.23 | uga | valdyn: not /root/.bashrc, that one loads the paths from /etc/pro..... |
| 08:52.29 | amorphix | hehhe |
| 08:52.33 | lohhak | so did you nebour |
| 08:52.35 | uga | valdyn: shit! I _did_ modify it! |
| 08:52.52 | uga | oh, nm. forget it =) |
| 08:52.54 | valdyn | uga: yea, /etc/profile is global but that is not suppoed to set PATH for root |
| 08:52.55 | lohhak | y dont you seeking |
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| 08:53.27 | amorphix | enlightenment? |
| 08:53.38 | uga | valdyn: heh, somehow I think I edited the wrong file before. .bashrc doesn't contain my previously edited "source /etc/profile" lines |
| 08:53.41 | valdyn | uga: guess that explains it |
| 08:53.43 | uga | sorry, and thanks |
| 08:53.44 | uga | yes |
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| 08:54.01 | valdyn | uga: it shouldnt contain that.. |
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| 08:54.22 | lohhak | I need wemen for seeking |
| 08:54.23 | uga | valdyn: is it unsafe? I have specific settings for user eq 0 |
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| 08:54.53 | amorphix | lohhak sorry to tell you this but you picked the least best channel for wemen dude |
| 08:55.02 | paulswm | HAHA |
| 08:55.06 | amorphix | lol |
| 08:55.49 | valdyn | uga: i dont know, it probably is, but its a silly way to do this, when there already is root specific config files |
| 08:56.08 | uga | well, yes |
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| 08:56.36 | uga | valdyn: I have custom paths there though, and I hate changing two config files when I switch directories |
| 08:56.47 | uga | the less files I have to modify every month, the better |
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| 08:57.46 | valdyn | uga: if root and a user need the same path, set it in /etc/ |
| 08:58.14 | valdyn | uga: that doesnt make this user eq 0 required, the root specific part and still be set in /root/ |
| 08:58.24 | valdyn | uga: that doesnt make this user eq 0 required, the root specific part can still be set in /root/ |
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| 08:58.35 | roo9 | is there a way to disallow password-based logins on a per-user basis? |
| 08:59.02 | dondelelcaro | roo9: yes. |
| 08:59.05 | valdyn | roo9: password based? which logins do you want to allow? any at all? |
| 08:59.54 | paulswm | roo9: You can change a user's login shell to /bin/false to prevent logins from that user |
| 09:00.36 | paulswm | But somehow I don't think that's what you're after |
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| 09:00.54 | lohhak | hghsad |
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| 09:01.14 | paulswm | amorphix: he's back ^^ |
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| 09:01.19 | paulswm | Oh, gone again |
| 09:01.28 | uga | valdyn: ? that's what I did. I added some common paths into /etc/profile, and then source it (usr/local/kdecvs/bin...), but I still need to check if user is root to add sbin and others |
| 09:01.37 | paulswm | Tem wemen are hard to find |
| 09:01.52 | pepsi__ | to find all files that contains the string "xyz" I type what? |
| 09:01.52 | uga | valdyn: although I could do the same in .bashrc by following some generic kdedir envvar |
| 09:01.55 | valdyn | uga: no you dont, roots bash reads /root/.bashrc |
| 09:02.03 | paulswm | pepsi__: man grep |
| 09:02.07 | valdyn | uga: yea |
| 09:02.14 | uga | valdyn: and my bashrc sources /etc/profile =) |
| 09:02.28 | pepsi__ | paulswm: nothing with "find" ? I want to search more or less all files on the system |
| 09:02.30 | uga | valdyn: well, I did that in profile now, since i'm not too sure it's being loaded from bashrc when sudoing |
| 09:02.44 | valdyn | uga: export PATH=/sbin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH |
| 09:02.45 | pepsi__ | paulswm: forget it.. |
| 09:02.55 | paulswm | pepsi__: to find strings in files, use grep with -r |
| 09:02.58 | pepsi__ | paulswm: didn't know grep had that -r thingy :) |
| 09:03.01 | pepsi__ | paulswm: thx |
| 09:03.13 | uga | valdyn: no, I'd need export PATH=/usr/local/kdecvs/sbin... see? and that directory changes every month |
| 09:03.24 | uga | I do a cleanup of those binaries once per month |
| 09:03.28 | lohhak | Thanks |
| 09:03.36 | paulswm | pepsi__: yw, other greps )like Solaris) don't have that -r thingy, which is very annoying once you get used to it :) |
| 09:03.37 | amorphix | hehe |
| 09:03.38 | flankk | ahahahaha http://toastytech.com/news/bsod.html |
| 09:03.39 | lohhak | bay bay |
| 09:03.51 | valdyn | uga: so create a new file and source that file from /root/.bashrc and /home/user/.bashrc |
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| 09:04.09 | valdyn | uga: ops nm, that was stupid |
| 09:04.18 | uga | valdyn: uhmm... ok, if you insist =) But I don't see a difference between profile and another file =) |
| 09:04.23 | amorphix | anyone own a toshiba portege? |
| 09:04.47 | streuner | amorphix: sure someone does, /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 09:05.18 | amorphix | just wondered how good the LCDs are |
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| 09:05.59 | EmleyMoor | I'm trying to set up a menu entry to run Anagram Genius under wine. I can run it from the command line, and took the menu file for Route 66 (which works) and modified it for Anagram Genius, but nothing happens when I try to use the entry |
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| 09:06.43 | streuner | amorphix: try groups.google.com too, many user talk about there experience |
| 09:06.53 | amorphix | thanks streuner |
| 09:07.08 | dli | any easy makefile builder? |
| 09:07.11 | paulswm | amorphix: look for it at newegg.com, there are probably some user reviews |
| 09:07.45 | paulswm | amorphix: In fact, there are |
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| 09:08.32 | uga | valdyn: thanks a lot for your help. Now my build script can safely work without my attention required every 5 mins to check it's going ok =) |
| 09:08.36 | EmleyMoor | How can I trace what is happening in a menu entry? |
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| 09:09.33 | uga | EmleyMoor: not sure what you exactly need, but maybe using strace? |
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| 09:09.54 | EmleyMoor | uga: I can't see how that would help |
| 09:10.21 | streuner | !info strace |
| 09:10.23 | EmleyMoor | I have a menu entry to run a program - it fails, but I can run the program from the command line |
| 09:10.27 | dpkg | strace: (A system call tracer), section utils, is standard. Version: 4.5.11-1 (sid), Packaged size: 87 kB, Installed size: 232 kB |
| 09:10.53 | uga | EmleyMoor: oh, menu entry as in kmenu entry? .desktop file? |
| 09:11.17 | Ikarus | Wine produces entries for the Debian menu package aswell |
| 09:11.21 | EmleyMoor | Menu entry as in ~/.menu |
| 09:11.34 | EmleyMoor | Ikarus: Yes, it does, but they don't ever appear |
| 09:11.49 | uga | EmleyMoor: heh, Idon't have such menu =) |
| 09:11.56 | Ikarus | EmleyMoor: so reload KDE ? |
| 09:12.02 | uga | I guess it's hte common dir used by debian for both desktops |
| 09:12.12 | Ikarus | EmleyMoor: also use update-menu |
| 09:12.19 | Ikarus | +s |
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| 09:12.35 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... it seems the menu entry works if I specify the Unix path to the .exe file rather than the "Windows-like" path |
| 09:12.37 | uga | EmleyMoor: if you add ">/home/user/errors.txt 2>&1 " to the command, you'll at least get the errors logged |
| 09:12.48 | uga | EmleyMoor: and if everything fails add strace at the beginning too |
| 09:12.58 | EmleyMoor | Ikarus: (a) Not KDE (b) Already done |
| 09:13.29 | uga | (a) shame (b) try what I said =) |
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| 09:13.54 | EmleyMoor | It's the menu system that is erroring, not the actual program |
| 09:14.02 | tuxipuxi | hi which other nice sites for deb packages besides apt-get.org do you know? |
| 09:14.10 | uga | EmleyMoor: so it's not even finding the thing? uhm |
| 09:14.28 | EmleyMoor | Ah, I think I may have found a clue |
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| 09:16.59 | EmleyMoor | No - still not happening when I try to specify the path to the .exe "Windows-style" |
| 09:17.39 | uga | EmleyMoor: do other similar menus get found? |
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| 09:17.50 | EmleyMoor | The menus themselves are found |
| 09:17.50 | uga | try to replace the command with one from others maybe? |
| 09:18.05 | roo9 | dondelelcaro,valdyn,paulswm : sorry, got called away, i want to disallow password-logins for particular users, allowing ssh2 key logins (we already dissalow all ssh1). |
| 09:18.18 | EmleyMoor | The menu entry for Route 66 works |
| 09:18.41 | EmleyMoor | The menu entry for Anagram Genius doesn't |
| 09:18.54 | EmleyMoor | I am therefore assuming I have a formatting error |
| 09:19.00 | uga | EmleyMoor: then the command is actually run, so if you pipe output errors to a file you'll see errors |
| 09:19.18 | uga | i.e., not found, or cannot run... or segfaulted... or who knows what |
| 09:19.38 | streuner | roo9: man sshd_config? |
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| 09:20.42 | tuxyRochefort | does anyone know how to have larger buffer size in vlc ? |
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| 09:21.06 | EmleyMoor | uga: Nothing. Not even created the output file |
| 09:21.22 | uga | uhmmm... now that's weird |
| 09:21.36 | tuxipuxi | uga°! |
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| 09:21.55 | LAX2PDXandback | hello |
| 09:22.09 | uga | EmleyMoor: errrmmm you could try "strace wine...>..." ... at least strace will be found, and something should be run |
| 09:22.16 | LAX2PDXandback | I am running Gnome on my Linux box, how do I add applications to the application menu? |
| 09:22.18 | uga | that's my last choie... |
| 09:22.52 | uga | tuxipuxi: uhmm... this doesn't look like #k-dev, right? =) |
| 09:23.09 | EmleyMoor | uga: Still nothing |
| 09:23.14 | valdyn | LAX2PDXandback: rightclick anywhere in the menu |
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| 09:23.55 | uga | EmleyMoor: sorry, I can't possibly help then. I don't even know what proggie runs the menu in gnome. In kde you could just run kicker on commandline... |
| 09:24.29 | pwned | I need a backport of kernel 2.6.11 for sarge |
| 09:24.41 | LAX2PDXandback | it just invites me to add the apps to the panel |
| 09:24.42 | streuner | pwned: why? |
| 09:24.49 | pwned | streuner: for a device driver |
| 09:24.50 | EmleyMoor | pwned: Why particularly? Can't you make your own kernel package? |
| 09:24.53 | LAX2PDXandback | i want to add an app that I normally have to command to the menu |
| 09:25.04 | streuner | pwned: get vanilla source and use make-kpkg |
| 09:25.05 | EmleyMoor | You don't need a backport |
| 09:25.17 | streuner | pwned: /msg dpkg kp |
| 09:25.21 | pwned | I don't want to make. Whenever I tried compiling kernel, I got internal compiler errors. |
| 09:25.47 | pwned | then I got all those vfs errors, I got initrd errros, whatever. |
| 09:25.52 | pwned | I am sick of trying to compile the kernel |
| 09:26.13 | streuner | pwned: that device driver is only in 2.6.11? |
| 09:26.19 | pwned | streuner: for now yes. |
| 09:26.28 | streuner | bah |
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| 09:26.38 | pwned | sb live 24 7.1 |
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| 09:26.56 | streuner | pwned: and emu10k1 doesn't work? |
| 09:27.01 | pwned | streuner: nope |
| 09:27.10 | pwned | 5.1 -> 7.1 different chip |
| 09:27.11 | streuner | so just compile it |
| 09:27.18 | pwned | wel kernel doesn't give module support |
| 09:27.22 | pwned | doesn't matter if I compile it |
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| 09:27.56 | streuner | so the kernel 2.6.11 doesn't support it too? |
| 09:28.03 | pwned | it does. But I don't have the 2.6.11 |
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| 09:28.53 | streuner | pwned: read the KERNEL-HOWTO at newbiedoc.sf.net |
| 09:29.02 | pwned | I will not compile the kernel. |
| 09:29.13 | pwned | my hardware obviously can't cope with it |
| 09:29.18 | streuner | pwned: how long do you use sarge? |
| 09:29.27 | pwned | streuner: umm 3 hours |
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| 09:30.41 | EmleyMoor | Do you know anyone else who could compile a kernel for you given your config? |
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| 09:31.49 | EmleyMoor | Still odd that I can't get my menu system to let me run a particular Windows app from it if I specify the path to the .exe "Windows-style", but if I specify it "Unix-style", it works. |
| 09:33.41 | streuner | pwned: what does 'lspci -v | grep Audio' say? |
| 09:34.20 | streuner | pwned: what does 'lspci -v | grep audio' say? |
| 09:35.45 | pwned | streuner: creative labs sb audigy ls |
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| 09:36.05 | streuner | pwned: thats not the output of the command... |
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| 09:36.43 | Phated | You can always install the 2.6.11 kernel. |
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| 09:37.20 | streuner | pwned: do you use OSS or ALSA? |
| 09:37.33 | pwned | 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS |
| 09:37.44 | pwned | streuner: alsa |
| 09:38.07 | streuner | pwned: and alsaconf didn't find anything useful? |
| 09:38.12 | pwned | well I don't even have a /dev/dsp yet. Do you want me to modprobe snd-emu10k1 and do alsaconf etc ? |
| 09:38.17 | pwned | it didn't find. |
| 09:38.22 | Phated | There's a snd_ca0106 module, I think, it's in 2.6.11. |
| 09:38.23 | streuner | ok |
| 09:38.28 | pwned | Phated: yes that's the one |
| 09:38.41 | Phated | Yes, so install a 2.6.11 and modprobe it. You don't have to compile it. |
| 09:39.13 | pwned | Phated: err. Don't I need support for that module in the running kernel? |
| 09:39.14 | streuner | Phated: he's using sarge for 3hrs. |
| 09:39.31 | Phated | pwned: And your running kernel is? |
| 09:39.37 | Phated | streuner: That's hardly my fault. |
| 09:39.39 | pwned | 2.6.8 |
| 09:39.43 | Phated | Yes, precisely. |
| 09:39.57 | Phated | You need a 2.6.11 kernel if you don't wish to compile the module on your own. |
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| 09:40.00 | pwned | the point is, yes, I can install it from unstable and reboot. |
| 09:40.08 | Phated | And? |
| 09:40.23 | Phated | Then you modprobe the module when you're running a 2.6.11. |
| 09:40.59 | pwned | but that's like.. mixing distros.. |
| 09:41.09 | Phated | Eh... Or you could compile a 2.6.11. |
| 09:41.10 | pwned | I thought there would be a sarge solution to this |
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| 09:41.19 | streuner | !find kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 |
| 09:41.21 | Phated | Yes, "compiling the module". |
| 09:41.21 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686' (2): kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 ;; kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686-smp. |
| 09:41.22 | pwned | no, I could not, for the reasons listed above (sry if you cam elater) |
| 09:41.41 | Phated | "my hardware obviously can't cope with it". |
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| 09:41.48 | Phated | What, pray tell, is that supposed to mean? |
| 09:41.56 | pwned | a bit above that |
| 09:42.17 | streuner | dpkg depends kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 |
| 09:42.20 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686: depends on initrd-tools (>= 0.1.76), coreutils | fileutils (>= 4.0), module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13) |
| 09:42.33 | Phated | I'm not going to search through. You can explain why you think your hardware can't handle it, or you can simply... I dunno, compile the module against a 2.6.8 kernel. |
| 09:42.48 | pwned | internal compiler errors while compiling kernels |
| 09:42.51 | IronRoses | um, I can't gdet firefox to load, it comes up with this error: tommy@debian:~/firefox$ sh firefox |
| 09:42.52 | IronRoses | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 09:42.52 | IronRoses | Xlib: XDM authorization key matches an existing client! |
| 09:42.52 | IronRoses | (firefox-bin:3665): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: If you could help, that'd be great!! |
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| 09:43.01 | pwned | on gcc/g++ 3.3, 3.4 and 2.95 alike |
| 09:43.04 | IronRoses | back |
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| 09:43.10 | uga | valdyn: lol, I found my script is building fine now just because it's using full paths. Sudo still fails finding anything out of /bin/:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin... I give up =) |
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| 09:43.55 | Phated | Internal compiler errors. Right then. So... You can always try compiling the module. <shrug> Or install a 2.6.11. That's clear enough, and the extent of my admittedly limited aid. |
| 09:44.09 | Andrea | hello |
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| 09:44.45 | EmleyMoor | You could, if you're really desperate, configure the kernel then send your config to someone to compile it for you |
| 09:45.21 | pwned | I am not that desperate, just didn't want to mix distros |
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| 09:45.47 | streuner | pwned: ok, so get the source and compile the module |
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| 09:45.53 | Phated | Well, you're left with compiling the module. |
| 09:46.05 | pwned | still, 2.6.8 doesn't support the module.. |
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| 09:46.13 | Phated | YOU COMPILE IT YOURSELF. |
| 09:46.20 | Phated | ie, download the source. |
| 09:46.43 | pwned | how can I load the module if my kernel doesn't support it.. |
| 09:46.51 | Phated | Oh, ffs. I give up. |
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| 09:47.04 | streuner | pwned: we told you already |
| 09:47.10 | bernouli | is there any way to know which files a users is downloading from our box, if he is connected through sftp? |
| 09:47.32 | streuner | pwned: you need the source of the module itself, get kernel-headers for you running kernel and compile that |
| 09:47.36 | Phated | streuner: "I can compile it, ubt I don't think I can load it because support for the card is not in the kernel." |
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| 09:48.13 | Phated | Mind, the sound was crap when I used it with the compiled module anyway. I went back to my onboard sound. Worked much better. |
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| 09:48.19 | Ikarus | bernouli: not likely |
| 09:48.29 | pwned | a "yes you can" could do |
| 09:48.29 | Phated | streuner: Well, you have an endurance of roughly one minute longer than I. |
| 09:48.30 | Ikarus | bernouli: not without patching ssh or the sftp service |
| 09:48.49 | bernouli | Ikarus, how to patch ssh service? |
| 09:49.01 | Ikarus | bernouli: I would suggest patching the sftp service |
| 09:49.18 | Ikarus | source code editing most likely, but let me check |
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| 09:49.19 | bernouli | Ikarus, yes, but would you tell me how? |
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| 09:49.44 | Phated | pwned: Yes, it was mentioned several times that you could compile the module. Don't you -think- that if you were told to compile the module, it would IMPLY that you would be ABLE TO LOAD IT? the very reason for compiling a module is because support is not IN THE KERNEL, thus, the chain of logic is: No module in kernel --> kernel does not support --> compile module. |
| 09:50.01 | Ikarus | bernouli: you need to edit the source of the sftp-server ssh subsystem for it |
| 09:50.08 | Ikarus | I would suggest adding syslog calls |
| 09:50.16 | pwned | Phated: it was my misunderstanding of how kernels work |
| 09:50.49 | bernouli | Ikarus, ic |
| 09:50.51 | Phated | Evidently. |
| 09:51.07 | Phated | pwned: Also, if you do have onboard sound, I really would recommend you just use that. The audigy ls with the compiled module sounds terrible. It might work better in the 2.6.11, but compiled on a 2.6.8... No. |
| 09:51.18 | bernouli | I used windows, and there is an ssh server, who let administrators see which files users are downloading |
| 09:51.21 | Ikarus | bernouli: _NOTE_, you might introduce bugs that would bring the security of ssh in danger, but the chance is slightly if you only edit the subsystem |
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| 09:52.00 | streuner | Phated: isn't that a pretty similar value then ;-) |
| 09:52.03 | goron | I want to mount this partition: |
| 09:52.04 | goron | /dev/sda2 2551 11660 73176075 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) |
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| 09:52.32 | Phated | streuner: Yeah, but you were dealing with it for longer before I happened to notice the person had an audigy ls. |
| 09:52.33 | njaard | when I do this: |
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| 09:52.38 | njaard | apt-get install gcc-4.0 |
| 09:52.39 | EmleyMoor | goron: OK - where are yoiu geting lost? |
| 09:52.42 | goron | I tried this in /etc/fstab: |
| 09:52.43 | goron | /dev/sda2 2551 11660 73176075 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) |
| 09:52.43 | Phated | One of the few Creative cards that is shite on Linux. |
| 09:52.45 | njaard | I get: gcc-4.0: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0-0pre10) but 1:3.4.3-12 is to be installed |
| 09:52.46 | Ikarus | bernouli: usually as soon as you give someone an account name on Unix he is trusted to the point of not logging everything except logins |
| 09:52.52 | pwned | Phated: my on-board ac97's capability is very limited. no mmap, sometimes doesn't support music and fx together in applications like quake3, etc |
| 09:52.57 | goron | But it says "bad superblock". |
| 09:52.59 | njaard | why is that? |
| 09:53.03 | billh | any news on why flash doesn't work under firefox ? |
| 09:53.07 | Phated | pwned: Go ahead, then. <shrug> Your time. |
| 09:53.15 | pwned | I feel really bad about purchasing this card anyway |
| 09:53.19 | EmleyMoor | goron: THat's not an entry for fstab |
| 09:53.24 | streuner | Phated: well, i have some experience with Audigs, it sometimes come to a nightmare ;-) |
| 09:53.27 | njaard | oh hi billh |
| 09:53.34 | EmleyMoor | Try this: |
| 09:53.34 | billh | hey njaard oh my god |
| 09:53.39 | goron | EmleyMoor: Why not? |
| 09:53.43 | pwned | later I hear that it doesn't support digital output, it hogs the cpu for sound processing |
| 09:53.48 | Phated | streuner: I had one. It was bad enough. I haven't tried it with the kernel support in 2.6.11. |
| 09:54.00 | EmleyMoor | It's just not a valid fstab entry |
| 09:54.08 | EmleyMoor | Where do you want it mounted? |
| 09:54.20 | goron | EmleyMoor: I copied from my other computer and adapted it. I only changed the device name. |
| 09:54.24 | pwned | a sb live 5.1 which costs 10 euros less would have been much better for me |
| 09:54.35 | goron | EmleyMoor: I want it mounted on /mnt/wind |
| 09:54.39 | EmleyMoor | goron: And this other computer was running what? |
| 09:54.42 | EmleyMoor | Try this: |
| 09:54.47 | goron | EmleyMoor: Debian |
| 09:54.57 | Phated | There are plenty of examples above in /etc/fstab. It's not hard. Also, what fs is on it? |
| 09:55.04 | EmleyMoor | /dev/sda2 /mnt/wind vfat 0 0 |
| 09:55.05 | tuxipuxi | njaard: hi |
| 09:55.16 | EmleyMoor | (or 0 2) |
| 09:55.18 | njaard | tuxipuxi: uhm, hi, like we haven't just been speaking |
| 09:55.20 | streuner | Phated: someone mentioned to me, cvs-ALSA |
| 09:55.24 | EmleyMoor | Er... close |
| 09:55.27 | Phated | Might want to include rw right before the first 0. |
| 09:55.33 | EmleyMoor | /dev/sda2 /mnt/wind vfat defaults 0 2 |
| 09:55.37 | Phated | streuner: Yeah, what I used. |
| 09:55.39 | EmleyMoor | Yes o that's right |
| 09:55.42 | streuner | Phated: oh |
| 09:56.05 | Phated | streuner: Actually, I think cvs-alsa wouldn't compile so I went to a slightly earlier version. Waste of time. |
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| 09:56.49 | goron | EmleyMoor: [mntent]: line 12 in /etc/fstab is bad |
| 09:56.57 | EmleyMoor | goron: As for what you entered before, I can't even work out where you got that one from |
| 09:57.10 | EmleyMoor | OK - what does line 12 actually say |
| 09:57.11 | EmleyMoor | ? |
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| 09:57.28 | goron | /dev/sda2 /mnt/wind vfat defaults rw 0 2 |
| 09:57.36 | EmleyMoor | Does /mnt/wind exist? |
| 09:57.40 | goron | yES |
| 09:57.49 | Phated | Throw in a comma between defaults and rw, and remove the space, change the 2 to 0. |
| 09:57.52 | ildegar | defaults,rw ? |
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| 09:58.02 | goron | That would probably help |
| 09:58.03 | Phated | ... Shouldn't have bothered typing that. |
| 09:58.15 | bernouli | Ikarus, i found something interesting, i can set the loglevel to debug |
| 09:58.23 | bernouli | and everyting will be logged |
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| 09:58.36 | bernouli | the users have no privecy anymore then :) |
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| 09:58.58 | goron | VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda2. |
| 09:59.21 | Phated | IS it a fat filesystem? |
| 09:59.22 | EmleyMoor | Are you sure the filesystem you want to mount is on /dev/sda2? |
| 09:59.29 | goron | Phated: It's FAT32 |
| 09:59.40 | goron | /dev/sda2 2551 11660 73176075 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) |
| 09:59.48 | goron | This is what fdisk says. |
| 09:59.49 | bob2 | that doesn't prove anything |
| 10:00.02 | paulswm | goron: but did you format it |
| 10:00.32 | goron | paulswm: There's data on it now. And I can access it from Windows. |
| 10:00.32 | Andrea | cu |
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| 10:00.34 | paulswm | goron: also, the fstab entry should be 'defaults,rw' not defaults rw' |
| 10:00.45 | goron | paulswm: Changed that already. |
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| 10:01.01 | bob2 | goron: are you sure it's fat32? |
| 10:01.02 | tuxipuxi | if i try to apt-get install gcc-4.0 from an experimental error, apt complains that gcc-4.0: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0-0pre10) but 1:3.4.3-12 is to be installed. anybody an idea how i could solve that or what's causing it? |
| 10:01.15 | EmleyMoor | Are you sure it's at /dev/sda2? |
| 10:01.24 | bob2 | tuxipuxi: don't bother |
| 10:01.25 | goron | bob2: Yes and yes |
| 10:01.37 | bernouli | how can I restart the daemon? sshd restart didnt work |
| 10:01.43 | tuxipuxi | bob2: what? |
| 10:01.54 | bob2 | bernouli: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart |
| 10:02.04 | bob2 | tuxipuxi: if you can't figure it out, don't bother |
| 10:02.14 | EmleyMoor | What kind of Windows are you accessing it in? |
| 10:02.17 | bob2 | tuxipuxi: either it's buggy and you didn't check the bts, or your apt config is broken |
| 10:02.44 | goron | EmleyMoor: Windows XP, but I did it exactly the same as on my other computer. |
| 10:03.00 | tuxipuxi | bob2: it's no official mirror.. do you think bug reports about those packages are in the bts? |
| 10:03.02 | EmleyMoor | goron: Do you have access to the fstab on that computer? |
| 10:03.07 | goron | EmleyMoor: Yes |
| 10:03.22 | EmleyMoor | OK - what does the entry in fstab say for that filesystem? |
| 10:03.28 | paulswm | EmleyMoor: Are you using a debian kernel image, or if not did you compile in support for fat32 |
| 10:03.30 | bob2 | tuxipuxi: ... then use a known-working mirror, for a start. bug reports for all packages from debian are in debian's bts. |
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| 10:03.51 | tuxipuxi | bob2: there are no official gcc-4 packages, are there? |
| 10:03.55 | goron | /dev/hda5 /mnt/wind vfat rw,users,owner,umask=000 0 0 |
| 10:03.55 | EmleyMoor | paulswm: I have no problem :-) |
| 10:04.07 | paulswm | goron: Are you using a debian kernel image, or if not did you compile in support for fat32 |
| 10:04.09 | goron | paulswm: yes, a kernel image. |
| 10:04.12 | EmleyMoor | How has it gone from hda5 to sda2? |
| 10:04.20 | paulswm | EmleyMoor: Sorry, I'm not very smart :) |
| 10:04.26 | goron | EmleyMoor: That's another computer. |
| 10:04.34 | bob2 | tuxipuxi: packages.debian.org/gcc-4.0 |
| 10:04.34 | goron | EmleyMoor: With a different harddrive. |
| 10:04.51 | EmleyMoor | goron: Are you sure that filesystem is on that harddrive? |
| 10:04.54 | tuxipuxi | bob2: ok, thanks |
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| 10:05.09 | goron | EmleyMoor: Well, yes. |
| 10:05.18 | EmleyMoor | Well, I'm not so sure |
| 10:05.24 | EmleyMoor | How did you create the filesystem? |
| 10:05.24 | paulswm | goron: OK, so fdisk shows it as fat32, if it is formatted as fat32 then you should be able to mount it |
| 10:05.27 | DDRP | Happy St. George's Day, programmers |
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| 10:05.32 | goron | EmleyMoor: Is there some way I can prove to you that's that filesystem? |
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| 10:06.07 | EmleyMoor | How did you create the filesystem currently on sda2? |
| 10:06.28 | uga | basss****rdDS! |
| 10:06.29 | uga | argh |
| 10:06.37 | uga | I found what's wrong with sudo |
| 10:06.39 | goron | EmleyMoor: Well, I used the software from MS. Maybe that's the problem? |
| 10:06.49 | uga | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.49 | EmleyMoor | On XP? |
| 10:06.54 | goron | EmleyMoor: Yes |
| 10:06.59 | uga | somebody decided to make sudo in debian more secure? argh |
| 10:07.08 | goron | EmleyMoor: There's a tool to create FAT drives. |
| 10:07.32 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... and you're sure it's FAT you created? |
| 10:07.38 | goron | EmleyMoor: Yes. |
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| 10:07.52 | bob2 | uga: that's not how the Debian sudo is configured |
| 10:07.54 | paulswm | Well mount is telling you that it isn't vfat |
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| 10:08.02 | bob2 | uga: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/sudo/sudo_1.6.8p7-1.diff.gz |
| 10:08.08 | EmleyMoor | goron: JOOI, try this command: |
| 10:08.12 | uga | bob2: then explain why it doesn't accept any other path? |
| 10:08.21 | EmleyMoor | mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/sda2 /mnt/wind |
| 10:08.23 | uga | and my root got full access... |
| 10:08.25 | bob2 | uga: no idea |
| 10:08.29 | uga | bob2: maybe it defaults to that too? |
| 10:09.09 | goron | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2, |
| 10:09.09 | bernouli | i enabled SyslogFacility AUTH and LogLevel INFO, but i cant fine the file, where the logs will be saved,there isnt any in /var/log |
| 10:09.12 | bob2 | uga: well, that's what's set in the diff |
| 10:09.22 | uga | bob2: +# Defaults syslog=auth, secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin" |
| 10:09.23 | uga | see |
| 10:09.25 | uga | ? |
| 10:09.26 | uga | that's why |
| 10:09.29 | uga | it's in the diff |
| 10:09.30 | DDRP | ntfs != fat32 |
| 10:09.31 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... well, at least it's not NTFS |
| 10:09.36 | goron | NTFS-fs error (device sda2): ntfs_fill_super(): Not an NTFS volume. |
| 10:09.39 | bob2 | uga: yes, I know |
| 10:09.50 | EmleyMoor | DDRP: I know - but what he's got is not fat32 either! |
| 10:09.57 | paulswm | So now wwe know that it is not fat32 and it's not NTFS |
| 10:10.03 | uga | bob2: so why did you say that's not what debian does? it's actually the problem |
| 10:10.11 | bob2 | ok! |
| 10:10.17 | dli | bob2: should the path starts with /usr/local/sbin ? |
| 10:10.31 | uga | bob2: sudo cannot run anything outside those paths specified by debian packs. And that's annoying |
| 10:10.58 | goron | EmleyMoor: Well, I still vote for the possibility of MS being to be non-compatible. But as I said is there a way to find out what my partition fs really is? |
| 10:10.59 | bob2 | uga: that's false |
| 10:11.14 | batman | where are all the people that know what thay are talking about |
| 10:11.18 | uga | bob2: please check your statements |
| 10:11.20 | DDRP | Trust whatever parted says it is |
| 10:11.28 | bob2 | uga: ? I just checked it. |
| 10:11.36 | bob2 | uga: I can copy /bin/ls to ~/tmp and run it fine |
| 10:11.41 | uga | bob2: add a /usr/local/mycustomdir, export PATH=/usr/local/mycustomdir, and add it into your root profile too |
| 10:11.53 | uga | bob2: run it without full path |
| 10:11.57 | bob2 | a) sudo doesn't use your root profile |
| 10:12.03 | EmleyMoor | Try this: |
| 10:12.05 | bob2 | b) stripping your PATH to that extent is stupid |
| 10:12.13 | uga | bob2: I know, but osme people claim it does (if you check the backlog) |
| 10:12.15 | EmleyMoor | mount -t msdos -o ro /dev/sda2 /mnt/wind |
| 10:12.18 | paulswm | uga: bob2 is right, and it is documented in the sudo manpage |
| 10:12.30 | uga | bob2: I have my own custom kde dir, so I need a more sensible path |
| 10:12.37 | bob2 | uga: also, that won't work anyway, since sudo won't be in your $PATH |
| 10:12.45 | uga | paulswm: the sudo manpage says it doesn't change the path |
| 10:13.02 | paulswm | uga: Tha's what bob2 and I just said |
| 10:13.23 | uga | paulswm: what I'm saying is the command _is_ in my path |
| 10:13.30 | uga | "sudo command" will still fail |
| 10:13.41 | uga | and it doesn't on other distros with default sudo settings |
| 10:13.45 | uga | more clear now? |
| 10:14.05 | paulswm | uga: I have been following it |
| 10:14.21 | goron | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2, |
| 10:14.27 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... |
| 10:14.27 | goron | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2, |
| 10:14.29 | uga | now if there was some way to override that secure path, it would be nice |
| 10:14.34 | goron | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2, |
| 10:14.44 | EmleyMoor | goron: Stop it! |
| 10:14.54 | bob2 | uga: there is, in sudoers |
| 10:14.57 | paulswm | goron: so boot into XP and see what that partition is |
| 10:15.04 | goron | EmleyMoor: I thought the pasting didn't work. Sorry... |
| 10:15.08 | uga | bob2: uhm? how? did I miss something in the docs? |
| 10:15.14 | EmleyMoor | Yes, my next suggestion was to put it back on a Windows box |
| 10:15.25 | uga | bob2: I even tried to add the specific full path for the command there |
| 10:15.29 | goron | paulswm: Well, ok, but I am pretty sure about what it is. BRB |
| 10:15.32 | EmleyMoor | (and run ScanDisk on it if it appears to work at all) |
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| 10:15.49 | paulswm | If mount says it isn't msdos or vfat, then chances are it isn't msdos or vfat |
| 10:15.52 | bob2 | uga: sudo /path/.to/whatever |
| 10:15.54 | bob2 | works fine |
| 10:16.04 | EmleyMoor | Indeed... that's more than likely the case |
| 10:16.22 | DDRP | If parted says it's fat32 but it won't mount... it's obviously an empty partition |
| 10:16.24 | hackeny | www.SPITBOX.net - Interative HIP-HOP battling join Now and Stay-Up-2-date with whats happening |
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| 10:16.32 | uga | bob2: i can't type full paths every time I need running them with sudo |
| 10:16.39 | bob2 | uga: indeed |
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| 10:17.22 | paulswm | !prize bob2 |
| 10:18.04 | paulswm | I wonder what the heck interactive hip-hop battling is anyway |
| 10:18.24 | DDRP | There'll always be an England |
| 10:18.35 | DDRP | And England shall be free... if England means as much to you as England means to me |
| 10:18.56 | Phated | paulswm: Rap battles, only hip-hop, I guess. |
| 10:19.22 | EmleyMoor | Rap - doesn't that have a letter missing? <g> |
| 10:19.28 | michal_ | I get this message... |
| 10:19.30 | michal_ | CPU0: Temperature above threshold |
| 10:19.30 | michal_ | CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode |
| 10:19.40 | michal_ | is there any way to find out what the cpu temp is from within linux? |
| 10:20.01 | streuner | michal_: install lm-sensors |
| 10:20.19 | michal_ | lm-sensors doesn't support the chipset on my motherboard |
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| 10:20.39 | valdyn | michal_: lm_sensors or acpi ( /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ ) |
| 10:20.42 | liable | michal_: yes if you have acpi, its in /proc/acpi/something |
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| 10:20.59 | streuner | michal_: /msg dpkg search |
| 10:21.11 | Pritt | ciao gente |
| 10:21.42 | michal_ | don't seem to have thermal_zone in acpi |
| 10:21.55 | michal_ | streuner: search for what? |
| 10:22.12 | streuner | michal_: what version of debian do you use? |
| 10:22.16 | RichiH | were there any reports of wlan cards not working any more after an upgrade in the last 48 hours or so? |
| 10:22.23 | goron_xp | EmleyMoor: Windows says it's ntfs. But I am sure I used the damn tool. I checking all the different partitions and none were fat. It states it's ntfs, but we tried mounting it as ntfs. So, it's a bit weird. |
| 10:22.23 | RichiH | (sid) |
| 10:22.27 | michal_ | streuner: unstable on this partciular machine |
| 10:22.42 | EmleyMoor | goron_xp: Have you run scandisk on it? |
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| 10:22.58 | streuner | michal_: use apt-cache search foo, i dunno but there is a similar app like lm-sensors |
| 10:23.06 | p88 | hi all, how can I send a printer job to a remote printer using a remote username? |
| 10:23.24 | valdyn | !find thermal.ko |
| 10:23.30 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'thermal.ko' (3 of 30): (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-k7/kernel/drivers/acpi/thermal.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/acpi/thermal.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.10-1-k7/kernel/drivers/acpi/thermal.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.10-1-k7. |
| 10:23.39 | michal_ | No support for device type: thermal |
| 10:23.45 | goron_xp | EmleyMoor: No. Can I do that from the cli also? |
| 10:23.47 | michal_ | hmm.. so how does the kernel know? |
| 10:24.05 | EmleyMoor | goron_xp: It's a purely Windows thing |
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| 10:24.10 | streuner | !mbmon |
| 10:24.13 | michal_ | it's beign a pain in the ass.. can't do any work with the message contantly popping up in all terminals :/ |
| 10:24.15 | streuner | !info mbmon |
| 10:24.17 | valdyn | michal_: cpu's can throw error codes, the kernel doesnt know, the cpu just threw that error |
| 10:24.18 | goron_xp | EmleyMoor, I know. |
| 10:24.20 | dpkg | mbmon: (Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (text client)), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.05-2 (sid), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
| 10:24.23 | EmleyMoor | Of course, it's not safe to write to ntfs in Linux yet |
| 10:24.32 | EmleyMoor | Not had that much experience with XP |
| 10:24.47 | goron_xp | EmleyMoor: But the last time I did that was with Win98 :) Well, I will check google. |
| 10:24.48 | DDRP | NTFS write support didn't say experimental in the latest kernel |
| 10:24.50 | michal_ | streuner: thanks for the tip |
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| 10:25.04 | goron_xp | DDRP: It didnt'? Interesting :) |
| 10:25.05 | valdyn | michal_: in other words, the kernel doesnt know this is a temperature thing, its just displaying the error that the cpu threw |
| 10:25.07 | streuner | michal_: that's the only alternative i know |
| 10:25.15 | EmleyMoor | DDRP: It's restricted - you can't change the size of, or delete, a file |
| 10:25.31 | streuner | !info xmbmon |
| 10:25.37 | dpkg | xmbmon: (Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (X client)), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.05-2 (sid), Packaged size: 62 kB, Installed size: 104 kB |
| 10:25.56 | michal_ | hmm.. 81C |
| 10:25.58 | michal_ | seems to work |
| 10:26.15 | streuner | that's pretty hot |
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| 10:26.53 | EmleyMoor | (when, if ever, you can freely write to NTFS, I'll be pleased |
| 10:26.56 | kolly | hei |
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| 10:27.15 | kolly | &j #olas |
| 10:27.23 | michal_ | 83C even |
| 10:27.27 | valdyn | michal_: fix your heatsink and reapply heatsink paste or get a new one, or let someone do that |
| 10:27.45 | michal_ | the heatsink and fan are fine.. but optimised for low noise |
| 10:28.00 | michal_ | might need to crank up the fan a little |
| 10:28.08 | valdyn | michal_: i doubt you can tell if the paste is spread properly |
| 10:28.16 | streuner | michal_: if you running the box longer, you will have no noise problem then... |
| 10:28.31 | michal_ | valdyn: i only put it on a few hours ago |
| 10:29.00 | michal_ | streuner: what do you mean? |
| 10:29.04 | valdyn | michal_: no idea how experienced you are doing this, but maybe you just have to crank up the fan speed i guess |
| 10:29.14 | xophEr | EmleyMoor, there is a way, though its not free, http://www.ntfs-linux.com/index.htm :/ |
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| 10:30.05 | PerfDave | EmleyMoor: It's unlikely to happen, unless the EU force Microsoft to release NTFS specs. |
| 10:30.16 | valdyn | michal_: if you system is mostly idle id be worried.. |
| 10:30.26 | bob2 | the linux ntfs guys are pretty smart |
| 10:30.35 | bob2 | I'd not be surprised if they eventually figure it all out |
| 10:30.55 | PerfDave | bob2: And then get sued for violating the NTFS patents... |
| 10:31.13 | michal_ | well it's usually idle but right now it's doing something very cpu intensive for about an hour |
| 10:31.16 | valdyn | PerfDave: are they even americans? |
| 10:31.19 | EmleyMoor | The other thing I really want is Shockwave - through wine or native |
| 10:31.28 | streuner | michal_: top |
| 10:31.53 | goron_xp | Ok, I crashed Windows... |
| 10:31.54 | PerfDave | valdyn: You think that'll stop Microsoft suing them? ;) |
| 10:32.30 | valdyn | PerfDave: they wouldnt get far in europe ( ms ) |
| 10:32.40 | goron_xp | Well, not the entire kernel, but it was close ... |
| 10:32.47 | PerfDave | valdyn: They wouldn't? |
| 10:33.45 | valdyn | PerfDave: sure, software cannot be patent protected in europe |
| 10:34.02 | PerfDave | valdyn: For about another two weeks. |
| 10:34.17 | uga | valdyn: in theory, not, in practise it's been |
| 10:34.23 | michal_ | streuner: how is top going to help me? I KNOW what's using the cpu :) |
| 10:34.25 | uga | or so they say is the main reason to allow it =) |
| 10:34.38 | streuner | michal_: well :-) |
| 10:34.44 | michal_ | it seems that the cpu throttling prevents the cpu from going above 83c |
| 10:34.54 | valdyn | uga: no, in practice patents have been granted, but in practice there _still_ is no protection for these |
| 10:35.02 | uga | ah, good point |
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| 10:35.17 | pwned | yes, compiling the 2.6.11 module and loading on 2.6.8 doesn't yield quality results |
| 10:35.35 | pwned | oh well, I will call this debian "unstable testing" then |
| 10:35.46 | Pritt | hi there, I have installed knoppix on my HD and I would try debian/sarge. What do u suggest? To format the partition where is locate Knoppix or what ? |
| 10:35.47 | paulswm | michal_: What is your CPU? |
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| 10:35.58 | michal_ | paulswm, p4 3ghz |
| 10:36.14 | streuner | Pritt: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 10:36.15 | PerfDave | !d-i Pritt |
| 10:36.16 | dpkg | Pritt, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 10:36.31 | PerfDave | Pritt: Back up any user data files you want to keep, install Sarge over Knoppix. |
| 10:36.38 | NeoSadist | i don't use debian but i have a friend who's using it, tell me (since i'm helping him in #ipw2100) how i see what packages are currently installed... (i'd think ls /var/log/packages/ or rpm -qa but oh well) |
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| 10:36.46 | michal_ | seems like opensourcce video encoding under linux is quite a bit behind opensource video encoding under windows (opensource ignoring patents) |
| 10:37.02 | valdyn | michal_: how? where? |
| 10:37.19 | streuner | NeoSadist: dpkg -l |
| 10:37.21 | bbrazil | Nowlin: dpkg -l |
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| 10:37.23 | EmleyMoor | NeoSadist: dpkg -l |
| 10:37.42 | Pritt | <streuner> what does the command /msg dpkg d-i ? |
| 10:37.52 | paulswm | michal_: It may be a hardware glitch, I doi a quick google: http://www.techimo.com/forum/t136062.html |
| 10:37.57 | gahan | is debian-changes mailinglists big ? :) how many mails/day ? |
| 10:38.00 | paulswm | s/doi/did/ |
| 10:38.10 | valdyn | gahan: small |
| 10:38.13 | michal_ | paulswm, what makes you think it's a hardware glitch? |
| 10:38.28 | paulswm | gahan: those stats are also on the debian mailing lists web pages |
| 10:38.36 | michal_ | valdyn, better deinterlacers are available under windows for example |
| 10:38.37 | streuner | Pritt: /msg (message) dpkg (bot) d-i (factoid) - and the bot message you the result |
| 10:38.41 | paulswm | michal_: check the link |
| 10:38.54 | Pritt | I see |
| 10:39.12 | paulswm | When he put an extreral sensor on it, it wasn't actually running that hot |
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| 10:39.45 | valdyn | usually the heat sensors on cpus is in one corner, but a cpu doesnt get equally hot at all places |
| 10:40.59 | paulswm | michal_: But if it were my CPU, I'd get good thermal paste and reinstall the HSF, like valdyn suggested |
| 10:41.07 | hamano | ee |
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| 10:42.05 | michal_ | paulswm: the problem described on those pages assumes there isn't really a heavy load on the cpu.. but in my case there is.. although i have almost exactly the same motherboard as described |
| 10:42.36 | michal_ | paulswm, I spread the paste on with my finger anyway so better paste would be a waste :) |
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| 10:43.23 | paulswm | michal_: then reinstall the HSF, or, if you're using the standard one, get a better one. I'm running al Athlon XP 2000+ at 100% constantly, and my CPU temp is 38C against an ambient room temp of 25.5 C |
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| 10:43.51 | michal_ | paulswm: try turning your fan WAY down and see how the temp is :) |
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| 10:44.41 | paulswm | michal_: Actually I am running the scary 92mmx38mmx38mm Vantec Tornado on a Thermaltake Pipe101 sink :) |
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| 10:45.11 | paulswm | michal_: but I don't mind my home office sounding like a jet engine testing facility |
| 10:45.20 | michal_ | paulswm: i'm running a scythe samurai with an 80cm fan that's probably going under 1000rpm |
| 10:45.48 | valdyn | michal_: btw, does the problem go away if you crank up your cpu speed? |
| 10:46.06 | ildegar | I have an AMD xp 3000+ processor, but uname -m says i686 |
| 10:46.09 | ildegar | is everything ok? |
| 10:46.10 | michal_ | valdyn: not sure i know what you mean by that |
| 10:46.10 | paulswm | michal_: water cooling! |
| 10:46.25 | michal_ | water cooling isn't practical yet.. don't know if it will ever be |
| 10:46.28 | paulswm | ildegar: you should use a K7 kernel |
| 10:46.41 | valdyn | michal_: by setting your cpu fan to its maximum speed |
| 10:46.54 | EmleyMoor | ildegar: Nothing untoward - uname -m will give i686 for a k7 kernel; |
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| 10:47.10 | paulswm | michal_: To me, putting water in a case is to me the sort of thing that disembodied voices whisper in the ears of schizophrenics :) |
| 10:47.15 | michal_ | valdyn: that would just make it hotter.. assuming i could actually cvontrol it with the existing kernel |
| 10:47.53 | michal_ | paulswm, you don't have to use water.. but liquid.. some sort of mineral oils or something |
| 10:47.57 | valdyn | michal_: uh, i meant the fan, set the fan to the max.. |
| 10:48.02 | paulswm | ildegar: EmleyMoor is correct, sorry, I was thinking of uname -r |
| 10:48.02 | Zitter | hi, I'm reading READ.ATAPI.setup to understand how configure /etc/defaults/cdrecord. Is written to insert right values in that file (ex.: cdrw=ATA:3,0,0 12 30m). Mmm, how to understand which vlaues I have to write? |
| 10:48.17 | valdyn | water has unique cooling properties though |
| 10:48.22 | michal_ | valdyn: oh sorry.. fan.. well i'm sure that would fix the problem.. but it's nto a viable option.. i maye increase it a bit but definetly not to max |
| 10:48.38 | paulswm | It has unique eletrical properties too unless it's pure |
| 10:48.41 | michal_ | valdyn, every liquid has unique cooling properties :P |
| 10:49.00 | valdyn | paulswm: yea, but destilled water isnt expensive i guess |
| 10:49.09 | ildegar | paulswm, EmleyMoor , ok thanks guys, i was just thinking if something's wrong when it gives me that i686 thingie |
| 10:49.10 | michal_ | water isn't as good as some oils |
| 10:49.20 | ildegar | and i have 2.4.27-2-k7 kernel installed |
| 10:49.24 | xelam | liquid thermal compound |
| 10:49.34 | valdyn | michal_: nono, water has the best of all liquids, some other fluid may require x times the circulation speed |
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| 10:50.07 | michal_ | valdyn, but may be 10 x safer :P |
| 10:50.13 | paulswm | valdyn: I'm OK with simple fans and noise though, water is for fish tanks, and also for drinking if properly disinfected with alcohol :) |
| 10:50.26 | michal_ | what about peltier cooling? |
| 10:50.49 | valdyn | michal_: you could just get an athlon64 ) |
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| 10:50.59 | valdyn | michal_: and forget about cooling issues |
| 10:51.06 | paulswm | Noooo, wait for the AMD dual cores |
| 10:51.09 | michal_ | those aren't very good for video encoding (compared to intel cpu's) |
| 10:51.33 | michal_ | and i still think intel makes by FAR the best motherboard chipsets when it comes to compatability |
| 10:52.18 | michal_ | i remember my one and only amd.. |
| 10:52.18 | paulswm | :D |
| 10:52.37 | michal_ | installed the duron and immediately it hit 120c at boot |
| 10:52.43 | michal_ | i thought WTF!?!? |
| 10:52.54 | Phated | My amd is probably at about 40c. |
| 10:52.55 | michal_ | lost some skin touching it after taking the computer apart |
| 10:53.01 | michal_ | found the problem |
| 10:53.11 | valdyn | michal_: you must have done something badly wrong, durons barely even require a fan |
| 10:53.13 | paulswm | michal_: Yes, they used to run a bit hot until the XPs |
| 10:53.25 | paulswm | Oh, duron |
| 10:53.27 | caphuso | nowadays intel runs hotter |
| 10:53.28 | michal_ | the cooler i got for it had a nice sticker which looked like thermal tape |
| 10:53.35 | xelam | tsk |
| 10:53.40 | michal_ | turned out to just be plastic |
| 10:53.40 | dli | man sshd opens 6017/tcp |
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| 10:53.53 | xelam | dli: what? |
| 10:53.57 | xelam | sshd opens 22 |
| 10:53.57 | michal_ | nowhere did the instructions mention this.. |
| 10:53.58 | xelam | that's all |
| 10:54.14 | paulswm | michal_: I'm also running a 1.33GHz Thunderbird core constantly at 100%, with standard HSF, and it's only at 52 to 54 C |
| 10:54.17 | michal_ | googled for it and found it was a common mistake :P luckily the duron survived |
| 10:54.36 | dli | xelam: yeah, when I login through sshd, the process also opens 6017/tcp at the sshd server side |
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| 10:54.51 | michal_ | standard fan/heatsinks for all cpu's are about 10 times too loud for my tastes :P |
| 10:54.55 | paulswm | michal_: That's a good story, thanks for sharing :) |
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| 10:55.20 | dli | michal_, you can try c3 processors |
| 10:55.30 | michal_ | they're not too good at video encoding |
| 10:55.55 | xelam | dli: well that shouldnt happen |
| 10:56.06 | paulswm | michal_: You wouldn't like the Vantec Tornado then, heh |
| 10:56.15 | michal_ | why doesn't someone release a standards compliant mpeg4 encoder card with linux support? :P |
| 10:56.31 | paulswm | but it does puch more than 100 CFM through the heatsink |
| 10:56.34 | paulswm | push |
| 10:56.39 | michal_ | with advanced profile suppot |
| 10:56.48 | dli | xelam: yes, someone asked the same question early |
| 10:57.02 | dli | xelam: now, it shows up on my box |
| 10:57.11 | xelam | why? |
| 10:57.33 | dli | xelam: nmap reports 6017/tcp open xmail-ctrl |
| 10:57.44 | dli | xelam: I'm asking why :( |
| 10:57.54 | bob2 | don't run xmail |
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| 10:58.35 | PerfDave | michal_: Because theres no money in it? |
| 10:58.53 | dli | bob2: I don't have xmail :( how to make sure the package is removed |
| 10:59.07 | bob2 | people keep forgetting their punctuation |
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| 10:59.27 | bob2 | dli: nmap isn't useful unless you really understand what it's checking |
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| 11:00.00 | dli | bob2: fuser shows a pid, and that pid's group ID is the real sshd |
| 11:00.08 | michal_ | PerfDave, like hell.. they'd overtake Microsoft in profit within a matter of days as 1/4 of the planet bought one |
| 11:00.25 | bob2 | dli: ignore fuser. |
| 11:00.26 | dli | bob2: and the process behind 6017/tcp has a cmdline "sshd" |
| 11:00.36 | dli | bob2: what about the process? |
| 11:00.46 | bob2 | dli: are you supposed to be the only person with root on this machine? |
| 11:00.52 | dli | bob2: yes |
| 11:00.53 | bob2 | dli: what user is that process running as? |
| 11:01.21 | dli | bob2: me, the login user |
| 11:01.26 | caphuso | dli: and what's the complete command line of that sshd process? |
| 11:01.26 | bob2 | god my head is fucked |
| 11:01.53 | PerfDave | michal_: I sincerly doubt that 25% of the planet would buy an MPEG4 encoder card just because it had linux support. |
| 11:02.09 | resiak | PerfDave: I think he may be joking, hence the :P :-) |
| 11:02.31 | dli | caphuso: /proc/<pid>/cmdline is empty |
| 11:02.51 | dli | caphuso: exe -> /usr/sbin/sshd |
| 11:03.05 | PerfDave | resiak: *shrug* |
| 11:03.43 | michal_ | I am joking.. if I were serious i'd say all those who use linux and do video encoding and many of those who do so under windows too (opensource video encoding under windows is pretty healthy) |
| 11:04.20 | caphuso | dli: and "ps axef" shows that second sshd to be a child of the main one? |
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| 11:05.28 | dli | caphuso, yes, [real sshd] -> the puzzling sshd , then bash |
| 11:05.57 | PerfDave | Then again, I want to get myselvf a reasonable DV camera at somep oint in the future |
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| 11:06.03 | dli | caphuso, and the second sshd links to 6017/tcp |
| 11:06.32 | idnar | that sounds like ssh X forwarding |
| 11:07.43 | caphuso | probably |
| 11:07.56 | caphuso | and it doesn't look like something to worry about |
| 11:08.19 | Agrajag- | anyone any idea why a dvd would play kinda jumpy? box is a p4 1.8, and plays other mpeg4/2 files fine |
| 11:08.25 | PerfDave | As long as it's only binding to localhost 6017/tcp :) |
| 11:08.28 | bob2 | enable dma |
| 11:08.39 | PerfDave | Agrajag-: DMA? |
| 11:08.40 | caphuso | Agrajag-: because it's a french art movie? |
| 11:08.44 | Agrajag- | ah yeah i'll try that |
| 11:08.49 | Agrajag- | haha caphuso |
| 11:08.56 | dli | caphuso, hope so |
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| 11:11.45 | Agrajag- | hmm i get "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted" |
| 11:12.03 | Agrajag- | (yes, im running hdparm as root..) |
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| 11:12.54 | michal_ | Agrajag-, is this SATA or PATA? |
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| 11:13.14 | michal_ | Agrajag-, if it's using libata then I don't think it's supported yet |
| 11:13.15 | Agrajag- | ide dvd drive |
| 11:13.49 | valdyn | Agrajag-: you dont have the driver for your ide chipset loaded, or the chipset is not supported |
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| 11:14.37 | Agrajag- | ok, so i need the driver just to change dma? (i can access the drive and play dvds jerkily) |
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| 11:14.49 | patad | hello |
| 11:15.03 | valdyn | Agrajag-: you need a driver to have dma |
| 11:15.14 | patad | we have a new bot on here guys |
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| 11:15.38 | Agrajag- | valdyn: right, ta. |
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| 11:16.37 | patad | someone ban FreeStyle |
| 11:16.41 | Agrajag- | hmm im assuming it's the ide module im needing? |
| 11:17.06 | patad | caphuso, its a pr0n bot |
| 11:17.14 | valdyn | Agrajag-: it has a hardware specific name, like via82xxxx or piix or somesuch |
| 11:17.24 | caphuso | patad: 13:16 -!- FreeSTyLe was kicked from #debian by caphuso [caphuso] |
| 11:17.42 | patad | but banning him :) |
| 11:17.52 | Agrajag- | valdyn: specific for the mobo? |
| 11:17.54 | patad | but nice ass kicking there caphuso |
| 11:17.57 | caphuso | patad: 13:16 -!- mode/#debian [+b *!*@62.139.30.16] by caphuso |
| 11:18.02 | valdyn | Agrajag-: yes |
| 11:18.03 | patad | ok i missed that too |
| 11:18.09 | patad | man im not with it today lol |
| 11:18.41 | valdyn | Agrajag-: is your kernel a 2.6.x one ? |
| 11:18.58 | patad | i forgot how to kill a process such as vncserver |
| 11:19.29 | Agrajag- | valdyn: yeah, 2.6.9 |
| 11:19.47 | valdyn | Agrajag-: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/ide/pci |
| 11:19.48 | Agrajag- | chipset is sis645, looking in kernel config for that now |
| 11:20.34 | Agrajag- | i have no ide folder :) |
| 11:20.54 | valdyn | Agrajag-: yea, custom kernel w/ no ide modules |
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| 11:21.35 | Agrajag- | yeah this is a diskless box so custom kernel |
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| 11:23.11 | davix | anybody got an idea why xqf finds only old servers? (2.56) |
| 11:23.51 | Debian|Pwns | hey can anyone tell me where the default direcetory is for php modules ?` |
| 11:24.10 | Debian|Pwns | i have just been installing them via apt-get ... and i dont know where they are being installed |
| 11:24.32 | caphuso | Debian|Pwns: dpkg -L packagename; but why do you need to know? |
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| 11:25.03 | dli | Debian|Pwns, dpkg -c the .deb file |
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| 11:25.25 | Debian|Pwns | i need to know because i cant find the fileinfo module on apt-get |
| 11:25.53 | streuner | !info apt-file |
| 11:25.55 | dpkg | apt-file: (APT package searching utility -- command-line interface), section base, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-7 (sid), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 88 kB |
| 11:26.31 | Debian|Pwns | 0.o |
| 11:27.04 | SuperSox | A |
| 11:27.25 | streuner | Debian|Pwns: or you use apt-file search foo |
| 11:28.02 | Debian|Pwns | i have been using apt-cache search fileinfo ...etc |
| 11:28.56 | dli | Debian|Pwns, apt-file |
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| 11:29.08 | onre | when debian generates /boot/grub/menu.lst, from where does it get the values for linux kernel parameter root= and the grub parameter root? |
| 11:29.10 | Debian|Pwns | whats the difference ?¿ |
| 11:29.19 | arturaz | wtf? perl broken on sarge? |
| 11:29.25 | asg | onre: from the kopt= line near the top of the file |
| 11:29.30 | arturaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.49 | onre | grub parameter root tells grub where to look for files (in my case a /boot partition), root kernel parameter tells kernel where to mount root |
| 11:29.59 | onre | asg, thanks. quite obvious :> |
| 11:30.24 | onre | err, that's not what i mean, it's commented out. |
| 11:30.31 | asg | onre: read the ## comments |
| 11:30.36 | onre | um, oh |
| 11:30.46 | onre | a bit confusing when an outcommented line actually affects something |
| 11:30.55 | asg | onre: I know, it is blatheringly stupid to do things that way. |
| 11:31.02 | caphuso | arturaz: what does "dpkg -l perl | tail -1" say? |
| 11:31.06 | onre | my thoughts exactly :> |
| 11:31.16 | arturaz | pn perl <none> (no description available) |
| 11:31.31 | arturaz | and apt-get install perl says there is no alternatives |
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| 11:31.56 | arturaz | E: Package perl has no installation candidate |
| 11:32.02 | caphuso | arturaz: and "dpkg -l perl-base | tail -1"? |
| 11:32.19 | arturaz | ii perl-base 5.8.4-8 The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister |
| 11:32.33 | caphuso | arturaz: you're installation is fucked |
| 11:32.51 | caphuso | arturaz: start with fixing your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 11:35.48 | bykte | how do i reload my zone files? i forget the binary name |
| 11:35.54 | bykte | rsdn or rndc |
| 11:35.56 | bykte | something like that? |
| 11:36.27 | bbrazil | bykte: rndc (assuming bind) |
| 11:36.40 | bykte | yeah |
| 11:36.59 | bykte | bbrazil |
| 11:37.01 | bykte | rndc not found |
| 11:37.07 | bykte | i do have bind installed and running |
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| 11:38.04 | bbrazil | bykte: which bind version? you on woody? |
| 11:38.17 | bbrazil | bykte: I assume you're running it as root |
| 11:39.40 | bykte | bbrazil yes |
| 11:39.40 | bbrazil | bykte: to whcih question? |
| 11:39.40 | bykte | bbrazil, not sure i just do /etc/init.d/bind restart |
| 11:39.40 | bykte | that's all |
| 11:39.40 | bykte | the version no |
| 11:39.40 | arturaz | caphuso, could package hold be causing this? |
| 11:40.02 | caphuso | arturaz: no |
| 11:40.04 | bbrazil | bykte: dpkg -l 'bind*' is bind or bind 9 installed? |
| 11:40.22 | dli | bbrazil, apt-get install bind9 |
| 11:40.25 | arturaz | caphuso, i reloaded the lists, what else could be wrong? :/ |
| 11:40.43 | bbrazil | bykte: actually you've already given me that answer, you're running bind 8 which I'm pretty sure doesn't have rndc |
| 11:41.00 | bykte | so upgrade to 9 huh? |
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| 11:41.26 | bbrazil | bykte: if you want rndc, I'm not aware of that the other considerations are |
| 11:42.06 | onre | bind 8 has similar utility called ndc |
| 11:42.07 | onre | iirc |
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| 11:42.20 | bykte | ok |
| 11:42.21 | bykte | ndc |
| 11:43.07 | bykte | by any change, is /etc/resolve.conf related to bind? |
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| 11:43.48 | onre | it's resolv.conf and it's related to name resolver in libc, iirc bind doesn't use that |
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| 11:44.28 | caphuso | arturaz: "reloaded"? |
| 11:45.14 | arturaz | caphuso, cleaned out, update, added new sources, update |
| 11:45.21 | bykte | damn it, 1 week and still cant get r.dns to work |
| 11:45.38 | caphuso | arturaz: paste the whole non-commented part in #flood |
| 11:45.41 | bykte | btw, do i need the ip for the nameserver to be redelegated too? no right? only the ip for the r.dns |
| 11:45.42 | bykte | true? |
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| 11:46.23 | arturaz | caphuso, done |
| 11:46.36 | onre | redelegated? what on earth are you doing? |
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| 11:46.48 | dpy | hi guys |
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| 11:47.08 | dpy | does anyone here know if there is a channel about the subject of componentized linux distributions ? |
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| 11:47.14 | bykte | onre, gaining control over my ip |
| 11:47.27 | bykte | 1 freaking week and shit doesnt happen |
| 11:47.42 | onre | bykte, but exactly what you're trying to accomplish? |
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| 11:48.09 | bykte | onre, what i am trying to do is to have reverse dns done.. |
| 11:48.17 | bykte | like ip-> host |
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| 11:49.32 | onre | and your name server is the authoritative name server for the IP range? |
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| 11:49.55 | onre | keep in mind that name servers cache stuff, so whatever modifications you make, they'll be seen by rest of the world with a delay |
| 11:49.57 | dpy | anyone ever heared of componentized linux ? |
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| 11:50.13 | onre | can't really think what 'componentized' means in that context |
| 11:50.27 | dpy | http://componentizedlinux.org/documentation/component-model/ |
| 11:50.43 | dpy | it's one of Ian's better ideas |
| 11:50.51 | bykte | onre, yes |
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| 11:53.31 | Aidin | is there an ok cli torrent client i could use ? |
| 11:54.01 | dpy | Aidin: mlnet ? |
| 11:54.37 | raf256 | how can I get megahal to connect and listen on IRC channel? |
| 11:54.50 | Aidin | tnx dpy , ill check it out |
| 11:54.53 | spoopin | Aidin: apt-get install bittorrent |
| 11:55.15 | dli | what famd is for? do I need it? |
| 11:55.58 | asg | spoopin: you're up early |
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| 11:56.29 | spoopin | asg: as are you. Freaking cats woke me up. What's your excuse? |
| 11:56.47 | asg | spoopin: 1st round qualifying for the San Marino GP. |
| 11:56.50 | bykte | how come i cant see authority name for the ip? |
| 11:56.53 | Aidin | its allways the simple solution isnt it :) |
| 11:57.07 | spoopin | asg: ah. When did it start? |
| 11:57.19 | asg | spoopin: 7am but I've been up since 5:30 |
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| 11:57.32 | slyboots | Sounds fun asg :P |
| 11:57.47 | slyboots | Im still trying to get LotGD to work right rofl |
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| 11:58.15 | dpy | Aidin: /me doesnt' like the standard bittorrent cli client, mlnet is better |
| 11:58.28 | slyboots | It passes all its internal checks for the SQL database, but its takes a bit of a shitfit when it actuly tries to write tables and data into the database |
| 11:58.42 | spoopin | slyboots: you've even lost a capital letter in the process |
| 11:59.06 | slyboots | that happens a lot |
| 11:59.15 | asg | slyboots: did you create a user for the database and set a password? |
| 11:59.56 | Slyboots | Yup, And fed it into the program |
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| 12:00.25 | raf256 | how fast do program run inside Uoser Mode Linux? |
| 12:00.25 | Slyboots | Table Synchronization Logs: |
| 12:00.25 | asg | Slyboots: something like "grant all on database.* to user@localhost identified by 'password';" |
| 12:00.25 | Slyboots | Synchronizing table accounts.. |
| 12:00.25 | Slyboots | Error: No Database Selected |
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| 12:00.39 | asg | raf256: fast until they need to do I/O |
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| 12:01.00 | raf256 | can I set my WWW serwer to run inside UML? Its just for few peoples use so not much I/O trafic |
| 12:01.01 | PerfDave | bittornado is pretty good as a CLI bittorrent client |
| 12:01.09 | asg | raf256: that should be fine |
| 12:01.13 | Slyboots | lotgd ALL PRIVILEGES Yes |
| 12:01.25 | asg | raf256: I'm running 11 uml instances on a single IBM HS20 with no problems at the moment. |
| 12:01.27 | Slyboots | so the username lotgd has unrestricted access to the SQL |
| 12:01.36 | asg | Slyboots: to that database |
| 12:01.46 | Slyboots | Well to all databases |
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| 12:02.07 | raf256 | asg: how can I start an UML computer on debian, what to apt-get? I want my UMLs to have tha same kernel as my host system... |
| 12:02.25 | asg | raf256: unless your host system runs a 2.4.26 kernel, that won't be possible. |
| 12:02.45 | asg | raf256: I just compiled my own uml kernel since the debian sarge package was broken when I set things up. |
| 12:02.57 | raf256 | asg: hmm..? I can have 2.6.8 as a host for UML? |
| 12:03.05 | asg | raf256: yes |
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| 12:03.28 | raf256 | and how can I install it? I did apt-get uml-tools so far |
| 12:03.34 | asg | raf256: I'm currently running a custom 2.4.30 + grsec patches for my host. |
| 12:03.36 | PerfDave | I see, to remember an article on UML at http://www.debian-administration.org/ |
| 12:04.09 | asg | raf256: all I installed was uml-utilities and a custom compiled 2.4.26-uml kernel. |
| 12:04.22 | asg | PerfDave: also, manoj has some good information as well. |
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| 12:04.54 | bernouli | is there any way to play .act file? |
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| 12:17.41 | arturaz | caphuso, same |
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| 12:22.11 | Slyboots | I wonder, Has anyone here installed Legand of the Green dragon before? |
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| 12:22.59 | E-bola | Can somebody help me figure out why my default gateway isnt set at bootup? |
| 12:22.59 | Slyboots | I dont understnad why its complaining about "no Database selected" |
| 12:22.59 | E-bola | iface eth0 inet static |
| 12:22.59 | E-bola | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.59 | E-bola | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.59 | E-bola | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:22.59 | fhffhqvb | !moron E-bola |
| 12:22.59 | dpkg | E-bola: You are moron #58 |
| 12:22.59 | E-bola | thats my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:22.59 | paulswm | E-bola: don't paste in channel, see topic |
| 12:23.00 | fhffhqvb | !tell E-bola about flood |
| 12:23.14 | paulswm | E-bola: change static to auto |
| 12:23.18 | bob2 | god I hate dogs |
| 12:23.21 | bob2 | such stupid animals |
| 12:23.41 | E-bola | paulswm: i have auto eth0 above it |
| 12:23.47 | E-bola | i just got told im using the wrong ip as gw heh |
| 12:23.49 | E-bola | would explain it |
| 12:23.55 | paulswm | E-bola: forget that, leave static as is, add line above 'auto eth0 |
| 12:23.57 | Crasp | i don't think dogs can really help it that their intellect is slightly lower than ours :) |
| 12:24.22 | paulswm | E-bola: Sorry, I am about 30 secs behind the rest of the universe this morning |
| 12:25.00 | paulswm | !beat me for being slow and stupid |
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| 12:26.13 | abrotman | !execute paulswm |
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| 12:26.23 | abrotman | heh |
| 12:26.29 | paulswm | !prise abrotman |
| 12:26.37 | abrotman | !prize paulswm |
| 12:26.38 | paulswm | Heh right back :P |
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| 12:27.43 | paulswm | abrotman: dpkg can emit what it likes into my brain this morning, at least it will mean that there is an event taking place inside my skull |
| 12:27.57 | abrotman | heh |
| 12:28.01 | abrotman | i know the feeling |
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| 12:28.32 | airco | reeaaally off-topic question that has nothing to do with deb whatsoever: does anyone here study computer sciences, and have access to the paper database of ACM Portal or IEEEExplore ? |
| 12:28.43 | thingfish | !ops yEsiL on-join spam |
| 12:28.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: yEsiL on-join spam |
| 12:28.46 | bob2 | why? |
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| 12:29.00 | airco | cuz i need a paper :) |
| 12:29.03 | abrotman | airco: iirc .. as a student you can join ACM for free |
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| 12:29.05 | paulswm | !beer bob2 |
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| 12:29.17 | thingfish | thank you, bob2 |
| 12:29.52 | airco | abrotman: we were instructed to ask our assistants, and mine kindly replied that he didn't have a clue how to get in :) |
| 12:30.10 | abrotman | airco: well .. for fuck's sake .. tell your prof |
| 12:30.12 | airco | abrotman: but if it's true students can get in for free, i'll have a look and register myself, thx |
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| 12:30.40 | airco | abrotman: prof hasn't been in the country for 2 months |
| 12:30.42 | airco | (yay) |
| 12:31.08 | abrotman | airco: what a slacker ... |
| 12:31.55 | airco | abrotman: yeah well, he did warn me before that he'd be away, and i didn't do shit oktober through february, so i kinda don't have a right to start protesting now |
| 12:32.19 | airco | which is how it always goes :) |
| 12:32.19 | abrotman | airco: you're the slacker now |
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| 12:33.48 | si|vercat | this sarge-install is starting to feel like windows.. |
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| 12:34.30 | si|vercat | programs crash randomly, computer freezes randomly, and kernel panics randomly occur.. |
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| 12:34.52 | airco | abrotman: well, not NOW, NOW i'm working :-) but yeah, i let it hang for a few months, i had other things to do |
| 12:34.57 | bob2 | si|vercat: almost certainly broken hardware |
| 12:35.00 | airco | (and no, getting drunk wasn't one of em :p ) |
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| 12:35.19 | thingfish | si|vercat: that sounds an awful lot like problems I had when my cpu went bad. |
| 12:35.19 | si|vercat | bob2: I'd think so too :P |
| 12:35.40 | thingfish | memtest86+ |
| 12:36.08 | si|vercat | will that test the cpu aswell? |
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| 12:36.25 | thingfish | indirectly, it's how I found my cpu's L2 cache was bad. |
| 12:36.38 | Slyboots | Hmm.. I dont know, Im quite stumped on this one |
| 12:36.41 | si|vercat | when I move windows around the desktop the sound "lags" aswell.. |
| 12:37.29 | thingfish | basically, in memtest86+, if you get lots of errors, but all the errors have zero error bits, your cpu is bad. |
| 12:37.56 | thingfish | At least, that's what the memtest86+ people say in their forum. |
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| 12:38.58 | EruditeHermit | hi, silly question, when I dpkg -l, some package names are too long and are only partially shown. I want to get the whole name so that I can remove them. Anyone know how to do this? |
| 12:39.06 | asg | EruditeHermit: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |
| 12:39.16 | EruditeHermit | asg: thanks |
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| 12:40.14 | si|vercat | does a memtest last long? :p |
| 12:40.20 | si|vercat | never tried it before |
| 12:40.28 | thingfish | si|vercat: it can last as long as you want, really |
| 12:40.57 | si|vercat | guess I'll just have to try it.. |
| 12:40.59 | thingfish | they say that one pass is sufficient to find most memory errors |
| 12:41.00 | si|vercat | thanks for the tip :) |
| 12:41.10 | thingfish | but most people run it for hours |
| 12:41.19 | thingfish | to check ram stability over time |
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| 12:41.22 | si|vercat | does it ouput a summary? |
| 12:41.24 | si|vercat | :P |
| 12:41.33 | thingfish | it outputs feedback constantly |
| 12:41.37 | si|vercat | never used memtest |
| 12:42.04 | thingfish | you boot to it, btw |
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| 12:42.28 | si|vercat | ya I figured that much |
| 12:42.29 | paulswm | Here's a good link on segfauls and why not to rely too much on memory testers: |
| 12:42.52 | FieldySnuts | holy lag batman |
| 12:43.05 | paulswm | sorry, didn't mean to hit enter, finding the link |
| 12:44.06 | thingfish | si|vercat: has this system only recently started the bad behavior? |
| 12:44.20 | paulswm | Here it is, very well put together: http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ |
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| 12:44.58 | si|vercat | thingfish: well.. it's been somewhat unstable for some time, but I've had like a month uptime on it, right before it got worse |
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| 12:45.04 | FieldySnuts | usually a hardware issue |
| 12:45.21 | FieldySnuts | pain in the arse to find often (for me it was a bad power supply, lost two disks before i figured it out) |
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| 12:46.18 | thingfish | si|vercat: I suppose memory timings are correct, right? |
| 12:46.28 | si|vercat | thingfish: I've set them to SPD |
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| 12:46.48 | thingfish | ok good, that should be safe |
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| 12:48.15 | websdale | ops:I just got bugged by a bot called "maximus" on the way in |
| 12:48.33 | asg | !ops maximus on-join spam |
| 12:48.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: maximus on-join spam |
| 12:48.38 | thingfish | that is a nice page, paulswm. |
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| 12:49.02 | bob2 | I don't see it |
| 12:49.03 | thingfish | why don't these spammers go bother #fedora |
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| 12:49.05 | paulswm | thingfish: Very good, excellent in fact, glad you liked it |
| 12:49.16 | FieldySnuts | thingfish: yeah or #redhat where they never deal with them |
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| 12:49.21 | asg | bob2: you have umode +E? |
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| 12:49.48 | FieldySnuts | i didn't get it either but some are smart enough to see that someone cycled and then not spam them |
| 12:49.58 | bob2 | asg: no |
| 12:49.59 | FieldySnuts | part, change your nick, come back. |
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| 12:50.16 | asg | bob2: sorry, false alarm then. |
| 12:50.31 | FieldySnuts | @blame websdale |
| 12:50.31 | bob2 | I am careful to remove that before /cycle'ing :) |
| 12:50.47 | websdale | FieldySnuts: thankyou |
| 12:50.48 | asg | bob2: :) |
| 12:52.15 | bob2 | stupid spam |
| 12:53.12 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: wwsr? |
| 12:53.12 | dpkg | Sarge will release WIR; SIYH. Current estimates are N+30 days, where N is when debian-security updates for sarge come online, in april 2005. Latest release update : http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/04/msg00003.html and ask me about <sarge pool>, <wir>, <siyh>, <sarge guess> and <sing sarge>. Sarge takes too long? ask me about <vancouver> |
| 12:53.24 | asg | bob2: there has been an increase. Number of messages since midnight blocked, 32K. Number allowed in, 849. |
| 12:53.25 | FieldySnuts | fine but what's wwsr stand for |
| 12:53.31 | bob2 | wow |
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| 12:53.41 | bob2 | I should setup perty graphs for that |
| 12:53.45 | idnar | FieldySnuts: When Will Sarge Release |
| 12:53.46 | bob2 | FieldySnuts: when will sarge release |
| 12:54.59 | FieldySnuts | i see upwards of 25K attempts at addys that don't exist on my mail server per day |
| 12:55.12 | FieldySnuts | jackasses, I wish I could charge them all for the wasted bandwidth and resources |
| 12:55.25 | EvilSporkMan | FieldySnuts: return to sender? =P |
| 12:55.31 | asg | FieldySnuts: just the price of doing business these days. |
| 12:55.36 | FieldySnuts | which would waste even more bandwidth |
| 12:55.42 | FieldySnuts | not to mention the send addy is usually bogus |
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| 12:56.05 | onre | i've toyed with idea of putting a content switch in front of mailserver to filter the most obvious ones |
| 12:56.10 | FieldySnuts | you can sit there and watch them doing dictionary style attacks awords@ bwords@ cwords@ blah blah |
| 12:56.13 | FieldySnuts | as fast as they can |
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| 12:56.36 | asg | FieldySnuts: you could rate limit them |
| 12:56.40 | mooded | anybody knows an example script about restricting what services are being masqueraded ? (iptables) |
| 12:56.49 | mooded | and could point me to there ? |
| 12:56.58 | FieldySnuts | @annoy spammers |
| 12:57.01 | ravenbird | spammers: PLZ!!!!! ANSWER!!!! PLZ!!!!! |
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| 12:57.31 | FieldySnuts | apt: samir? |
| 12:57.34 | apt | Mother-shitter! Son of an ass! I just- |
| 12:57.40 | FieldySnuts | heh had to get my samir fix |
| 12:58.09 | FieldySnuts | i like where he gets told "Illegal? Samir, this is america!" |
| 12:58.52 | shining | does anyone use isync, for receiving the mails on eg a server and a laptop? It works here but it doesn't go in the mail directory I want |
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| 13:00.06 | bob2 | offlineimap works amazingly well for that for me |
| 13:00.52 | shining | ok |
| 13:01.21 | shining | your mail directories are the same on server and client ? |
| 13:01.30 | bob2 | no |
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| 13:04.32 | Phated | http://www.blogthings.com/personalitydisorderquiz/ |
| 13:04.48 | abrotman | whoops |
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| 13:09.24 | scarynetworkguy | I think everybody is off taking it. |
| 13:09.40 | asg | scarynetworkguy: it's only 5 questions |
| 13:09.44 | thingfish | heh |
| 13:10.27 | asg | FieldySnuts: did you figure out your gig nic issues from yesterday? |
| 13:10.37 | |Fall-en| | is debian a graphical install ? |
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| 13:10.47 | citral | no |
| 13:10.48 | asg | |Fall-en|: if you consider ncurses graphical |
| 13:10.49 | amorphix | greetings |
| 13:10.57 | abrotman | !beer asg |
| 13:11.03 | abrotman | !eggs asg |
| 13:11.04 | asg | abrotman: yummy! |
| 13:11.04 | dpkg | ops, please ban asg |
| 13:11.04 | |Fall-en| | like slack then ? |
| 13:11.12 | amorphix | ahhh Guinness |
| 13:11.12 | abrotman | wtf is that ? |
| 13:11.13 | asg | |Fall-en|: yes |
| 13:11.33 | asg | abrotman: someone trying to be funny apparently |
| 13:11.44 | abrotman | !factinfo cmd: eggs (.*?) |
| 13:11.44 | dpkg | CMD: eggs (.*?) -- created by cafuego <~cafuego@macchiato.cc.com.au> at Sun Dec 12 23:05:40 2004 (131 days). |
| 13:11.50 | citral | heh |
| 13:11.56 | amorphix | are all Quantum Atlas SCSI 160 drives noise as hell when reading/writing, or just mine?! |
| 13:12.06 | abrotman | asg: damn that cafuego .. |
| 13:12.14 | dpy | does anyone know where I can download the meta data of Componentized Linux (Ian Murdoch) without downloading progeny |
| 13:12.19 | asg | abrotman: well, if they did ban me, I'd probably get more done. |
| 13:12.27 | abrotman | amorphix: i encased my in concrete .. no more noise |
| 13:12.29 | asg | dpy: no, this is #debian |
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| 13:12.45 | amorphix | abrotman: hehe sounds like a good idea |
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| 13:13.09 | amorphix | abrotman: seriously, are they all this noisey? |
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| 13:13.32 | amorphix | ive had quieter washing machines on full spin cycle :P |
| 13:13.46 | dpy | asg: componentized linux is a set of template xml files that groups upstream debian sarge packages |
| 13:13.57 | dpy | asg: and as such is not offtopic |
| 13:14.01 | asg | dpy: then ask the componentized linux people |
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| 13:14.19 | asg | dpy: they are surely not hanging around in here |
| 13:14.27 | dpy | asg: if only I could find them, was hoping some would be amongst the 790 people in this channel |
| 13:14.40 | abrotman | amorphix: i think i have some at work .. but in a serverroom . hard to tell :) |
| 13:14.49 | amorphix | ahh |
| 13:15.07 | amorphix | i think i will have to look at something quieter, i cant work with this next to me |
| 13:15.12 | amorphix | any suggestions? |
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| 13:15.29 | asg | amorphix: noise cancellation hardware |
| 13:15.37 | shining | amorphix: don't use it, it won't make noise |
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| 13:16.11 | asg | amorphix: or find a nice closet to put it in. |
| 13:16.11 | amorphix | well on the plus side this drive is incredibly fast |
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| 13:16.40 | Agrajag- | ok so im trying to enable dma on my dvd drive. i have a sis645 chipset, so i compiled the sis5513 module, and loaded it. i still can't set dma for /dev/hda though. (HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted). what might i have missed? |
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| 13:17.11 | amorphix | my HP Kayak workstation is the most Linux friendly system I've ever put Debian on |
| 13:17.28 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: TPS? |
| 13:17.29 | ravenbird | bugger all, i dunno, FieldySnuts |
| 13:17.32 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: TPS reports? |
| 13:17.33 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 13:17.34 | shining | kayak rules |
| 13:17.37 | FieldySnuts | heh. |
| 13:17.44 | amorphix | phew was so fast, not even a single hitch |
| 13:18.03 | shining | wtf a kayak isn't fast :p |
| 13:18.12 | amorphix | mine is :P |
| 13:18.34 | amorphix | i think the box is amplifying the sound from the hdd tho |
| 13:19.01 | amorphix | bad design there a bit, maybe they could of dampened the hdd noise with a special enclosure inside |
| 13:19.29 | shining | yep |
| 13:19.42 | liable | Agrajag-: /dev/hda? you have scsi hard drive? |
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| 13:19.49 | amorphix | when did Maxtor take over the Quantum HDD product range? |
| 13:20.01 | xk | amorphix: a couple of years ago. |
| 13:20.03 | amorphix | oh |
| 13:20.19 | Agrajag- | liable: err no? it's an ide drive |
| 13:20.50 | Agrajag- | (dvd) |
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| 13:21.33 | xk | hrm... nearly 5 years ago. |
| 13:21.37 | liable | Agrajag-: your hdd? |
| 13:21.52 | Agrajag- | what are you on? it's a dvd drive. |
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| 13:22.45 | Agrajag- | i can play dvd's fine from it, just it's jumpy, because dma isn't on |
| 13:22.56 | liable | Agrajag-: what is your hdd, if you have a ide hard drive, dma on hda isnt setting it on your dvd drive |
| 13:23.08 | amorphix | does anyone know what the issue is/was with SDRAM and the Intel 1840 chipset? |
| 13:23.23 | Agrajag- | liable: yes it is. /dev/hda *is* my dvd drive |
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| 13:23.49 | Slyboots | Hmm.. is there a way to make phpmyadmin only accept connctions from localhost? |
| 13:23.53 | Slyboots | And not external IP's? |
| 13:24.26 | amorphix | Slyboots: yeah just configure it right, or use apache to limit access to it |
| 13:24.27 | Delph | well, if it all goes horribly wrong then you can just edit the php and check the hostname, but i'm sure there's an option somewhere. |
| 13:24.40 | Delph | *meet |
| 13:24.49 | liable | Agrajag-: and whats your hdd /dev/? |
| 13:25.17 | Agrajag- | this computer doesn't have an hdd |
| 13:25.20 | Agrajag- | it's diskless. |
| 13:25.29 | liable | ooooh, ok then |
| 13:25.30 | Agrajag- | so believe me, /dev/hda *is* my dvd drive |
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| 13:26.08 | EvilSporkMan | why doesn't debian installer warn the user before ejecting the CD? for example, my case has a door that can close that covers the CD drives, and I know some Dells have this too. Ejecting without warning could damage the drive. |
| 13:26.35 | amorphix | oops |
| 13:26.44 | asg | EvilSporkMan: you answered your own question |
| 13:26.45 | FieldySnuts | apt: tps reports? |
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| 13:27.02 | EvilSporkMan | asg: you want to damage drives? |
| 13:27.10 | Agrajag- | yes, i got the memo |
| 13:27.13 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 13:27.14 | Phated | No, just yours. XD |
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| 13:27.18 | asg | EvilSporkMan: ? no. |
| 13:27.20 | FieldySnuts | Phated: heh |
| 13:27.29 | Phated | FieldySnuts: *bitebite* Be good. |
| 13:27.33 | EvilSporkMan | asg: i'm confused then, I don't seem to have answered my question.. |
| 13:27.34 | FieldySnuts | :/ |
| 13:27.51 | FieldySnuts | @lart EvilSporkMan |
| 13:27.57 | amorphix | eeek |
| 13:28.12 | asg | EvilSporkMan: last I checked, it does indicate it is going to eject the CD. |
| 13:28.13 | FieldySnuts | well I didn't think she'd do that... |
| 13:28.20 | asg | EvilSporkMan: unless rc3 changed something |
| 13:28.55 | amorphix | you should keep your door open during installation then it wouldnt be an issue :P |
| 13:28.57 | EvilSporkMan | asg: at least on AMD64, it tells you it has ejected the CD already. ejecting and displaying the message are simultaneous. |
| 13:29.03 | liable | EvilSporkMan: why would you close the door, whilst doing an os install? |
| 13:29.06 | EvilSporkMan | amorphix: yes, i did, but new users won't know that |
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| 13:29.28 | asg | EvilSporkMan: then perhaps file a wishlist bug on the installer indicating that it would be a nice addition. |
| 13:29.34 | EvilSporkMan | liable: why not? my case looks cooler that way, and if I were a n00b i wouldn't have known to leave it open. my drives are fine... |
| 13:29.56 | EvilSporkMan | asg: yes, i think i'll do that...just making sure debian wasn't against cases with doors that close or something |
| 13:30.09 | amorphix | surely if the drive gets damaged from a closed door thats a bad design in puter? |
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| 13:30.27 | FieldySnuts | i broke the tab off on my door. it stays shut, and if that happens, it just gets shoved open harmlessly |
| 13:30.43 | Phated | "My case looks cooler that way". C'mon. Not worth arguing. |
| 13:30.46 | asg | EvilSporkMan: then again though, amd64 isn't an official port yet. |
| 13:30.59 | FieldySnuts | Phated: nibble |
| 13:31.05 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Nibble. |
| 13:31.08 | FieldySnuts | ehe |
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| 13:31.16 | liable | EvilSporkMan: that may be a quick learn feature of debian, not close the door, close it, your drive breaks, you learn quick not too. |
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| 13:32.50 | FieldySnuts | spamd[8120]: result: Y 20 |
| 13:32.52 | FieldySnuts | heh geez |
| 13:33.09 | EvilSporkMan | liable: come on now. how's a first-time debian user supposed to know this? |
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| 13:33.18 | liable | EvilSporkMan: jk |
| 13:33.22 | FieldySnuts | troll troll |
| 13:33.40 | asg | EvilSporkMan: according to the official installation manual, it doesn't. This may be an artifact of the amd64 port. |
| 13:33.47 | torc | when sarge will become stable, what will happen to `testing`? |
| 13:33.49 | FieldySnuts | yes ladies and gents, putting moving object behind doors is bad. |
| 13:33.50 | amorphix | ahhh |
| 13:33.57 | FieldySnuts | objects |
| 13:34.25 | bob2 | torc: nothing |
| 13:34.25 | amorphix | is Matrox Millennium G250 AGP supported by mga video driver? |
| 13:34.26 | asg | torc: check the debian reference, it explains. |
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| 13:35.18 | torc | will gcc-4.0 package be available from sarge pkg repository? |
| 13:35.24 | FieldySnuts | hahahaha yeah right |
| 13:35.31 | bob2 | torc: it's in experimental |
| 13:35.38 | FieldySnuts | really? wow |
| 13:35.40 | bob2 | torc: there is no way gcc 4.0 will be the default compiler for sarge |
| 13:35.48 | asg | bob2: that was fast |
| 13:35.49 | amorphix | 6MB userguide for a Quantum Atlas 10k HDD?! what is there to know about a hdd |
| 13:35.50 | torc | no, not default, but available to install. |
| 13:35.51 | bob2 | and I doubt it will ship with it at all |
| 13:36.02 | FieldySnuts | amorphix: probably a bloated pdf |
| 13:36.06 | amorphix | phew |
| 13:36.14 | torc | like gcc-3.4 for now, its not default, but its there :) |
| 13:36.16 | bob2 | some pdf's are oddly huge |
| 13:36.17 | amorphix | i hate pdf!! |
| 13:36.34 | FieldySnuts | if the creator embedded fonts that's common, or unreasonably high res graphics |
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| 13:36.43 | Gnea | torc: do you know if distcc supports gcc-3.4 yet? |
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| 13:36.45 | asg | amorphix: pdf2txt |
| 13:36.49 | amorphix | :) |
| 13:36.57 | FieldySnuts | or if the pdf creator didn't use sane compression settings ( you can use 0 if you want) |
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| 13:37.15 | amorphix | maybe thats it, this is Maxtor Corp tho they should know better eh |
| 13:37.17 | EvilSporkMan | asg: i'll file a bug of some sort as soon as i figure out why network is borked |
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| 13:37.41 | asg | EvilSporkMan: you might want to ask #debian-amd64 and see if this is particular to amd64's installer. |
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| 13:37.58 | torc | Gnea: no, sorry. |
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| 13:38.17 | Gnea | torc: no what? no it's not supported or no you don't know? |
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| 13:38.31 | torc | Gnea: no, i dont know. |
| 13:38.35 | Gnea | ah ok |
| 13:38.37 | Gnea | thanks |
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| 13:40.58 | EvilSporkMan | asg: ok, clearly the installers aren't as similar as the AMD64 HOW-TO led me to believe. I'll keep it in there from now on. |
| 13:41.00 | slyboots_ | Im trying to setup a .htaccess to only allow connections to a site from the my machine alone |
| 13:41.06 | torc | does dpkg have a list of keywords? :) |
| 13:41.07 | slyboots_ | I tried deny from all |
| 13:41.11 | slyboots_ | allow from localhost |
| 13:41.14 | asg | EvilSporkMan: *nod* |
| 13:41.15 | slyboots_ | But that does nto work :P |
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| 13:41.22 | slyboots_ | It just bans everyone, including me |
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| 13:41.57 | asg | slyboots_: try #apache for generic questions |
| 13:42.07 | slyboots_ | Okay |
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| 13:43.23 | markmrd | I have a USB SD card reader. When I plug it in with the SD memory inserted I get the /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 special files, if I connect it without the SD inserted I only get /dev/sda, if I then insert the SD memory I do not get /dev/sda1. Does anyone know how to tell Linux to refresh its list of connected devices? |
| 13:44.05 | bob2 | markmrd: scsitools has a command that can help with that |
| 13:44.10 | bob2 | I'm not sure if it's safe or not |
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| 13:44.56 | markmrd | bob2: thanks |
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| 13:50.39 | borius | caphuso: remember when I told you about my magazine, EuroHacker? |
| 13:50.51 | borius | caphuso: or was that caphuego? |
| 13:51.11 | caphuso | borius: probably cafuego |
| 13:51.11 | borius | caphuso: ah well |
| 13:51.19 | caphuso | i've never heard of "EuroHacker" |
| 13:51.45 | borius | it's my web magazine, about hacking, guns and survival... we did an interview with ESR last issue and one with RMS in the latest issue |
| 13:51.55 | borius | but I'm not allowed to advertise in here |
| 13:52.23 | caphuso | then don't |
| 13:52.26 | borius | k |
| 13:52.26 | Delph | hacking, guns and ... survival? lol. |
| 13:52.30 | borius | Delph: hehe |
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| 13:53.15 | abrotman | they all go together .. obviously .. i'm surprised there are no stories about the joys of breast feeding too |
| 13:53.28 | mahmoud | #flood /msg dpkg guidelines |
| 13:53.28 | borius | eh? |
| 13:53.36 | borius | abrotman: did you check it out or what? |
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| 13:53.48 | abrotman | borius: you've got stories about breast feeding? |
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| 13:54.07 | Delph | abrotman .oO( baby, i'm SOLD ) |
| 13:54.11 | abrotman | heh |
| 13:54.33 | borius | abrotman: no, sorry :) |
| 13:54.52 | borius | abrotman: there is a fable about genetically modified foods and intellectual property tho |
| 13:55.23 | abrotman | so .. no boobs? |
| 13:55.47 | borius | uh, sorry :) |
| 13:55.54 | borius | there's a rant by a girl which mentions boobs |
| 13:56.02 | borius | that's the closest |
| 13:56.04 | abrotman | no . forget it .. just not worth it .. |
| 13:56.10 | abrotman | i mean .. who the hell likes guns ... |
| 13:56.12 | abrotman | and no boobs . |
| 13:56.16 | liable | surviving without boobs? |
| 13:56.21 | abrotman | might as well read comic books .. yeesh |
| 13:56.43 | mahmoud | I need HELP with "apt-get install linux-686-smp" : I keep getting: Bad header line |
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| 13:56.58 | abrotman | mahmoud: as well you should! |
| 13:57.10 | abrotman | wtf is linux-686-smp .. isn't that ubuntu ? |
| 13:57.37 | mahmoud | abrotman: yes it is ubuntu |
| 13:57.53 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 13:57.53 | dpkg | ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 |
| 13:58.37 | mahmoud | Isn't ubuntu based on Debian?? |
| 13:58.41 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 13:58.41 | dpkg | ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 |
| 13:58.54 | abrotman | mahmoud: ask #ubuntu .. we don't use it .. they do . otherwise .. install debian |
| 13:59.20 | abrotman | obviously . .since i asked what linux-686-smp was .. i wouldn't be much help |
| 13:59.31 | abrotman | since it's an Ubuntu(or nonexistant) package |
| 14:00.14 | TBBle | In fact, if you're in Sydney, Australia next week, you can go harras them in person. ^_^ |
| 14:00.19 | borius | no one interested in reading an interview with GNU/Stallman? |
| 14:00.51 | abrotman | TBBle: or shoot them! |
| 14:00.53 | abrotman | :) |
| 14:00.58 | warchest | does anyone know how to forward *@domain.com to a remote email with qmail ? |
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| 14:01.24 | TBBle | Indeed. ^_^ |
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| 14:01.52 | abrotman | war-: you could try #qmail |
| 14:02.08 | abrotman | err warchest ^ |
| 14:02.14 | warchest | already in there, quite dead |
| 14:02.17 | abrotman | oh .. |
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| 14:02.38 | abrotman | i stopped using qmail years ago .. and have forgotten anything useful(except not to use it :) ) |
| 14:03.07 | abrotman | warchest: but why would you want to do that ... you'd get all the spam crap |
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| 14:03.26 | abrotman | warchest: can you forward *@domain.com to a local account ? |
| 14:03.50 | warchest | no |
| 14:04.02 | warchest | if i could forward it to a local account i could use a dotfile to then forward remotely |
| 14:04.06 | TBBle | You could try googling for an FAQ about Qmail? |
| 14:04.11 | dli | abrotman, do they have good spam control? |
| 14:04.18 | mahmoud | I tryed RedHat and Fedora Core . None of them automatically supports the 1280x800 laptop wide screen. Ubuntu does. What about Debian? |
| 14:04.23 | warchest | TBBle: i've never found it.. i've wanted to set this up for weeks now |
| 14:04.27 | abrotman | dli: do who? |
| 14:04.27 | warchest | but he finally asked me again |
| 14:04.34 | dli | abrotman, gmail |
| 14:04.35 | abrotman | warchest: that's what i was going to suggest :) |
| 14:04.45 | abrotman | dli: uhm .. qmail .. gmail ... |
| 14:04.48 | abrotman | see the difference |
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| 14:04.53 | TBBle | Well, try asking in a random channel on freenode? |
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| 14:05.03 | dli | abrotman, oh, font problem |
| 14:05.07 | abrotman | dli: gotcha |
| 14:05.36 | shining | why does offlineimap ask for an user and password ? I have none |
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| 14:06.00 | dli | abrotman, not necessarily, my gentoo got strange font problem when using zh_CN locales |
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| 14:06.42 | mahmoud | DOES DEBIAN SUPPORT THE the 1280x800 resolution laptop wide screen? |
| 14:06.49 | abrotman | mahmoud: wrong channel |
| 14:06.53 | Delph | mahmoud: YES |
| 14:06.56 | abrotman | i told you before .. ask #ubuntu |
| 14:07.02 | Delph | mahmoud: if foorandom distribution does, then debian does. |
| 14:07.02 | abrotman | since ubuntu uses xorg .. and debian doesn't |
| 14:07.04 | Delph | gaah. |
| 14:07.06 | abrotman | for fucks sake |
| 14:07.17 | dli | mahmoud, I think every dist supports it, stop asking such a silly question |
| 14:07.22 | abrotman | mahmoud: please .. go to #ubuntu .. you're asking in the wrong place |
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| 14:07.42 | TBBle | But isn't he asking about Debian? |
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| 14:08.02 | Delph | TBBle: we're just trying to offload problems, ok? =: |
| 14:08.03 | Delph | ) |
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| 14:08.08 | abrotman | TBBle: no . he's not |
| 14:08.19 | abrotman | TBBle: he's asking about ubuntu . and specifically xorg |
| 14:08.23 | Delph | abrotman: 15:04 - I tryed... |
| 14:08.24 | shining | mahmoud: you'll have to edit X config file manually I guess |
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| 14:08.29 | TBBle | "00:06 < mahmoud> DOES DEBIAN SUPPORT THE the 1280x800 resolution laptop wide screen?" |
| 14:08.31 | caphuso | Delph: and that's how outsourcing hit the OSS community :) |
| 14:08.32 | TBBle | ? |
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| 14:08.48 | dli | TBBle, the answer is yes |
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| 14:08.49 | shining | abrotman: no, he said that it worked on ubuntu |
| 14:08.55 | abrotman | TBBle: astlog him .. he's using ubuntu |
| 14:08.58 | TBBle | Heh. I wonder if I go to #ubuntu and ask his question, if they'll !debian me. |
| 14:08.58 | shining | abrotman: he wants to know about debian |
| 14:08.58 | abrotman | err lastlog |
| 14:08.58 | Sh4dowcat | what does wide screen support have to do with Debian? |
| 14:09.06 | abrotman | fucking .. lastlog him . jeez |
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| 14:09.25 | mahmoud | OK thanks guys for the help. I'm just a beginner trying to land on a distribution. Sure Debian has no place for beginner seeing your attitude. |
| 14:09.30 | TBBle | I know he's using ubuntu, and he said it works there. But he's asking about Debian. I for one would like to encourage a potential convert, but my laptop does 800x600 with a following breeze. |
| 14:09.42 | abrotman | !d-i mahmoud |
| 14:09.44 | dpkg | mahmoud, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 14:11.39 | caphuso | even if xfree86 doesn't support 1280x800 out of the box, all it takes is putting a proper modeline into /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 14:11.39 | Sh4dowcat | mahmoud: Ubunto is based on debian, but does a lot more for you |
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| 14:11.58 | Sh4dowcat | it's a lot more user friendly |
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| 14:12.22 | Sh4dowcat | caphuso: most people don't like doing vi /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 when they can't even use ls properly |
| 14:12.30 | FieldySnuts | fine, this isn't #ubuntu so please go spam there |
| 14:12.35 | caphuso | Sh4dowcat: nano -w |
| 14:12.47 | Sh4dowcat | caphuso: same thing different name |
| 14:12.52 | EvilSporkMan | Sh4dowcat, mahmoud: it's user-friendly if you don't know what you want. Debian is friendlier if you know what you're doing, imo. |
| 14:13.00 | dli | Sh4dowcat, what's wrong with "dpkg-reconfigure"? |
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| 14:13.15 | Sh4dowcat | dli: dpkg-reconfigure doesnt' always give you what you want |
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| 14:13.30 | EvilSporkMan | dli: dpkg-reconfigure debconf and set it to advanced |
| 14:13.36 | EvilSporkMan | err Sh4dowcat ^^ |
| 14:13.53 | dli | Sh4dowcat, otherwise, I suggest "X -configure" |
| 14:13.55 | Sh4dowcat | I'm just saying that a person new to Linux |
| 14:14.09 | Sh4dowcat | might not appreciate the full power and complexities that come with it |
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| 14:15.07 | EvilSporkMan | to me it looks like you should either use Ubuntu stable or just screw tweaking things and pick a different distro |
| 14:15.14 | asg | Sh4dowcat: that's why we suggest reading the provided material, doing research, and finding what you are comfortable with before jumping off the cliff. |
| 14:15.26 | Sh4dowcat | heh |
| 14:15.59 | Sh4dowcat | EvilSporkMan, asg: I read the documentation, I know what I'm doing |
| 14:16.30 | asg | Sh4dowcat: i was speaking in reference to new GNU/Linux / *BSD users. |
| 14:16.48 | Sh4dowcat | asg: yeah and that's why we just lost a potential convert |
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| 14:16.55 | Sh4dowcat | see my point? |
| 14:17.21 | Sh4dowcat | anyhow |
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| 14:20.12 | Soeki | any one has geeklog running? |
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| 14:20.25 | Soeki | cant seem to find de "admin" folder |
| 14:20.55 | EvilSporkMan | should i be using sudo instead of su? |
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| 14:22.17 | asg | EvilSporkMan: it is preferable |
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| 14:26.31 | davix | can i install an rpm using dpkg? |
| 14:26.37 | davix | or something? |
| 14:26.49 | Delph | davix: 'alien' |
| 14:26.50 | asg | davix: with alien, but be very careful. |
| 14:27.01 | davix | ok how careful? |
| 14:27.01 | asg | davix: you are better off finding out if debian already has the package you need. |
| 14:27.08 | davix | dosent |
| 14:27.09 | Delph | it's not guaranteed to work, you can just break everything, and you're better off searching *really* *really* hard. |
| 14:27.16 | davix | it's qstat2.7 |
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| 14:27.22 | davix | ok |
| 14:27.26 | davix | so i'll compile it |
| 14:27.29 | davix | tnx |
| 14:27.33 | Delph | you might be better off with a source distribution and doing a local instal |
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| 14:27.38 | asg | davix: on woody? |
| 14:27.46 | davix | ubuntu mate |
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| 14:27.52 | asg | ffs |
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| 14:28.01 | asg | davix: debian sid has qstat 2.8 |
| 14:28.25 | davix | k, i'll check, tnx mate |
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| 14:28.39 | Kid_Sk8 | how to, active Window maker |
| 14:28.50 | Kid_Sk8 | i use gnome |
| 14:28.53 | davix | found, tnx asg. |
| 14:29.17 | shining | lol |
| 14:29.18 | raf256 | if I hide menu in gnome-terminal how to show it back |
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| 14:29.43 | asg | raf256: try ctrl or alt + right mouse button in the termina. (or just right mouse button) |
| 14:29.56 | asg | s/a./al./ |
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| 14:31.08 | dli | got too many ssh passwd tries :( |
| 14:31.13 | raf256 | asg: hmm it dont work |
| 14:31.22 | bsphere | i have sarge install on a desknote computer, I have something wrong with the keymap i think, because the backslash/pipe button is acting like the >/. button... how can I fix it ? |
| 14:31.28 | asg | raf256: try #gnome or #debian-gnome on oftc.net then |
| 14:32.52 | rage | What do I install to make myself understand iptables? I searched the sarge packages for a new brain but I couldn't find anything. :-( |
| 14:33.14 | r3Fl3X | rage: try shorewall |
| 14:33.17 | dli | rage: apt-get install bastille psad |
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| 14:33.33 | bodq | from xrestop: 0400000 413 18 33 1187 1017 66574K 66K 66641K ? <unknown> ---- what is that??? |
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| 14:34.09 | dli | r3Fl3X, anyway to stop those stupid ssh passwd tries? |
| 14:34.20 | rage | dli: mmmm nice :-) thanks |
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| 14:34.27 | asg | bodq: does ps or top show the same thing? |
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| 14:34.52 | bodq | asg, it shows X has 80Mb RSS and 180Mb VIRT |
| 14:36.13 | asg | bodq: X as in /usr/bin/X11/X or some gnomish or kdeness? |
| 14:36.37 | onre | try lsof -p <pid> to get some idea what the unknown process might be, also cat /proc/<pid>/cmdline;echo |
| 14:37.07 | bodq | asg, XFree86 :) |
| 14:37.40 | bodq | nore, it isn't a process I guess, maybe some X leftover. and I have no PID either |
| 14:38.07 | bsphere | i have sarge install on a desknote computer, I have something wrong with the keymap i think, because the backslash/pipe button is acting like the >/. button... how can I fix it ? |
| 14:38.11 | onre | no pid and it still shows on xrestop? :-o |
| 14:38.26 | Agrajag- | anyone happen to know if xmodmap will let me change a keycombo? ie. i want Shift+left arrow to send an 'L' for example |
| 14:38.27 | dli | bsphere, login via net, and see |
| 14:39.34 | onre | bsphere, is it the console keymap or X keymap? if x keymap, apt-get install xkeycaps |
| 14:40.06 | bsphere | onre: i haven't tried it in X so I don't know what going on there, but it's the console keymap |
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| 14:40.35 | onre | bsphere, well i have no idea about how to configure that, i always run x :) |
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| 14:41.12 | bsphere | onre: i run X too, but i like pressing alt-ctrl-f1 and work from a console when needed// |
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| 14:41.57 | onre | matter of preference, of course, but what would you need to do in a console except fix X config? :) |
| 14:42.42 | TBBle | When you've just logged out of an X session, need to quickly look up something on the 'net and can't be assed waiting for X to login again? |
| 14:42.43 | citral | you could irc, code, listen to music or browse the web for example |
| 14:43.02 | davix | that sucks, i've installed the latest xqf and qstats and xqf finds enemy territory of 2.56 and that's it, it dosent show 2.6 servers.... |
| 14:43.06 | davix | any ideas? |
| 14:43.33 | drac | joe! |
| 14:43.37 | asg | davix: check the docs (/usr/share/doc/<pkg>) and changelogs. See if those are supported. |
| 14:43.41 | onre | TBBle, well that of course. i run xdm and use twm, less than 1sec login time :> |
| 14:43.51 | drac | mmm nevermind. 8) wrong channel |
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| 14:43.57 | blujay | davix, what's the problem? |
| 14:44.00 | onre | citral, sure you can, but why bother if you have X? |
| 14:44.27 | bsphere | onre: ssh :) |
| 14:44.30 | davix | they are suppose to be supported, because some other dude said it works for him |
| 14:44.41 | bsphere | onre: and programming |
| 14:44.43 | onre | bsphere, xterm or rxvt :> |
| 14:44.51 | citral | onre: I don't "bother", I sometimes enjoy it. Maybe because the console on the ibook looks so good. I hate it on a PC. |
| 14:44.51 | davix | blujay, my xqf shows only old version servers (2.56) and not new (2.6) ideas? |
| 14:44.58 | bsphere | i like console more :) |
| 14:45.07 | TBBle | I'm on KDM and wmi. The problem here is that _xterm_ takes more than a second to appear the first time, and mozilla-firefox takes longer than the damn _boot_. |
| 14:45.19 | blujay | davix: what version of XQF do you have? |
| 14:45.22 | asg | bsphere: dpkg-reconfigure console-data (try a different keymap that corresponds to whatever keyboard you have.) |
| 14:45.32 | bsphere | asg: thx |
| 14:45.35 | davix | blujay, 1.0.3 |
| 14:45.36 | onre | TBBle, whoa. you must have even worse computer than i do, then :) |
| 14:45.50 | davix | but i upgraded from 1.0.2 |
| 14:45.51 | onre | citral, yup... the console font reminds of sun workstations. |
| 14:46.02 | citral | onre: at the beginning, I had only 64 Ram, so console was really fine. |
| 14:46.07 | TBBle | That's a familiar feeling now, having just been to a linux conference. ^_^ |
| 14:46.10 | blujay | davix: I have 1.0.2 and I can see 2.60 servers, but I only see 6 online, and four of them are TC:E servers. Have you tried making a server filter and putting "2.60" in the version box? |
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| 14:46.30 | asg | blujay: you are also running debian and he is running ubuntu. |
| 14:46.38 | blujay | asg: ah |
| 14:46.48 | davix | blujay, yes, i did :( |
| 14:46.50 | onre | citral, aight. i have 64MB here, must admit that X is a bit sluggish when running many gtk apps |
| 14:46.57 | bodq | onre, it still does. btw, X uptime is 12 days, so I might end up just restarting it ... |
| 14:47.00 | asg | onre: s/many/any/ |
| 14:47.08 | bsphere | whats xqf ? |
| 14:47.11 | SuperSox | hey, I've got a strange problem, I've got a pcmcia card, whenever I insert it, cardctl ident/info shows that it has been recognised correctly, however, the card doesn't get a dev entry, and nothing shows up in dmesg, I've tried googling, I've tried the debian-laptop mail list, and so far nothing, anyone in here got any suggestions? |
| 14:47.14 | asg | bsphere: gtk frontend to qstats |
| 14:47.19 | blujay | davix: add this server: 67.18.185.90:3000 |
| 14:47.20 | TBBle | onre: The console font being lat0-sun16.psf by default? |
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| 14:47.37 | blujay | davix: see if that shows up after you add it manually |
| 14:47.50 | asg | SuperSox: do you have support for the pcmcia socket? i.e. yenta_socket? |
| 14:47.51 | onre | TBBle, can't remember what it is. ibook is an ofw machine though, so could be |
| 14:47.59 | davix | blujay, shows n00bies only, works |
| 14:48.12 | citral | onre: then console + screen may be for you... if you are editing text, listening to music and ftping for example, it's much more usable |
| 14:48.14 | TBBle | Oh. I assumed it was being loaded by console-tools. I'm pretty sure it defaults to the sun font. |
| 14:48.15 | blujay | davix: yeah, that's the server. well, how many 2.56 servers do you see? |
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| 14:48.23 | onre | asg, roughly yes. but after the long wait they run quite smoothly |
| 14:48.29 | SuperSox | asg: yeah, because my wireless card is working fine (mini pci, so sits on socket/slot 3) |
| 14:48.33 | asg | onre: ;) |
| 14:48.40 | asg | SuperSox: oh, okay. |
| 14:48.48 | SuperSox | asg: thats why its weird :) |
| 14:48.57 | asg | SuperSox: yeah, that is a bit odd. |
| 14:49.01 | onre | citral, naah. i'm almost unable to do programming without a 80x80 emacs window :P |
| 14:49.07 | asg | SuperSox: is the modules for the card loaded? |
| 14:49.15 | davix | blujay, 1825 servers, 2.56 and 2.55 99%-2.56 |
| 14:49.22 | SuperSox | asg: yep! :| |
| 14:49.26 | asg | hmmm |
| 14:49.45 | citral | onre: methinks there is a kernel argument to fix that |
| 14:50.16 | onre | citral, yup, but still there's no graphical web browser which is quite essential if your work involves writing web applications. |
| 14:50.18 | blujay | davix: let me update from the master server |
| 14:50.52 | davix | ok |
| 14:50.55 | citral | onre: ever tried links2 -g ? |
| 14:51.04 | SuperSox | asg: if I edit the pcmcia config, the card still gets picked up but as the wrong type of adevice (its an AirCard 750) so I know for a fact that the card is being picked up correctly |
| 14:51.04 | citral | works in framebuffer ;) |
| 14:51.32 | onre | citral, yup, though you can't convert me, been using X exclusively since before there even was linux :P |
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| 14:52.44 | citral | arf, I lose then ;) |
| 14:52.56 | bea_ | what is the init file of Gnome?i need to start a program when init it |
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| 14:53.04 | SuperSox | meh, I use a term + screen ;) |
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| 14:53.18 | SuperSox | x provides me even further flexabilty I feel ;) |
| 14:53.24 | blujay | davix: well, I only see one 2.60 server right now. Maybe there just aren't very many online. |
| 14:53.27 | eBug | how is it possible that I have a X module in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ but the server won't start complaining that '(EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 14:53.30 | eBug | ? |
| 14:53.33 | blujay | davix: 99% seem to still run 2.56 |
| 14:53.49 | onre | my adhd brain likes the possibility of having a bunch of terminal sessions simultaneously visible |
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| 14:54.16 | davix | blujay, in the game it shows me hundreds of just 2.6 |
| 14:54.38 | bea_ | how Can i start a program in the Gnome init? |
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| 14:54.46 | citral | eBug: that module should be in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/drm/ |
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| 14:55.02 | k0nj | ` is a spammer |
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| 14:55.03 | blujay | davix: I dunno then, sorry |
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| 14:55.15 | k0nj | on this channel |
| 14:55.16 | davix | thats ok, tnx blujay |
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| 14:55.22 | JeffWilson12 | You guys have a spambot lurking, just so you know. |
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| 14:55.39 | citral | !ops ' on-join spam |
| 14:55.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: ' on-join spam |
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| 14:55.54 | eBug | citral it's not a kernel module, it's a X module |
| 14:56.00 | JeffWilson12 | citral: it's `, not ' ;) |
| 14:56.02 | k0nj | not ', |
| 14:56.04 | k0nj | ` |
| 14:56.05 | k0nj | :) |
| 14:56.08 | kash | hi everybody |
| 14:56.11 | citral | oops |
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| 14:56.44 | asg | streuner: sexyteens spam |
| 14:56.54 | eBug | citral there's another kernel module with the same name in /lib/modules/ :) |
| 14:56.56 | blujay | ? I don't see any spam from it in here... |
| 14:57.00 | kash | can someone explain me how to install debian packages ...i'm trying since a while and it's gone make me crazy |
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| 14:57.06 | JeffWilson12 | bluejay: part and then join. |
| 14:57.08 | kash | please |
| 14:57.08 | asg | blujay: it's on-join |
| 14:57.11 | blujay | oh, ok |
| 14:57.17 | asg | kash: apt-get install foo |
| 14:57.18 | blujay | heh, I joined just before it did |
| 14:57.26 | kash | foo ?? |
| 14:57.32 | asg | !foo |
| 14:57.32 | dpkg | bar bir bor |
| 14:57.36 | blujay | kash: have you tried "man apt-get" or "man dpkg"? |
| 14:57.52 | asg | kash: a generic term to indicate 'replace foo with something relevant like the package name you want to install' |
| 14:57.56 | k0nj | i have 3 ip's.. and i have one user added and i want that he can only use one 1. how i can limit that? |
| 14:57.58 | kash | i m new to deb i come from mandrake ;-( |
| 14:57.59 | FieldySnuts | be nice to tell the ops who is doing the spamming. |
| 14:58.01 | asg | kash: see the Jargon File for a better definition |
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| 14:58.13 | asg | kash: also, read the debian reference (www.debian.org) |
| 14:58.13 | kash | oki |
| 14:58.18 | blujay | kash: run synaptic |
| 14:58.27 | kash | in fact i m trying to install plone |
| 14:58.41 | asg | kash: what version of debian are you using? |
| 14:58.57 | kash | in fact it's not deb but ubuntu |
| 14:59.14 | citral | there's a channel for that, #ubuntu |
| 14:59.15 | FieldySnuts | @ops the nick " ` " is onjoin spamming (delayed by about 30 seconds) |
| 14:59.15 | asg | kash: apt-get install plone. If you have problems, /j #ubuntu |
| 14:59.16 | streuner | kash: and why do you ask here? |
| 14:59.17 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: the nick " ` " is onjoin spamming (delayed by about 30 seconds) |
| 14:59.23 | timo_ | does anyone know it it is possible to cut/copy/paste text from win2k/vmware to x/linux? (ie ctrl-c/v) |
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| 14:59.45 | asg | timo_: it is if vmware is set up correctly. Check their forums. |
| 14:59.52 | kash | because at ubuntu they do not seem really simpathics |
| 14:59.54 | kash | .... |
| 15:00.00 | FieldySnuts | who cares, that's not our problem |
| 15:00.01 | timo_ | asg: ok |
| 15:00.04 | FieldySnuts | @not supporting ubuntu |
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| 15:00.08 | asg | kash: then 'apt-get install plone' |
| 15:00.09 | patter_ | does anyone know how to get debian to ask if the hardware clock's set to UTC (like it did in the install)? |
| 15:00.10 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: hi? |
| 15:00.10 | ravenbird | Many greetings, fieldysnuts, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 15:00.15 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: not supporting ubuntu |
| 15:00.17 | dpkg | We have enough trouble not supporting Debian, without trying to not support ubuntu too. Try #ubuntu or donating money to charity. |
| 15:00.17 | streuner | kash: 'simpathics'? |
| 15:00.18 | patter_ | apt listkeys utc |
| 15:00.19 | asg | patter_: tzconfig |
| 15:00.19 | kash | they kiked for nothing ;-( |
| 15:00.21 | citral | kash: we can't help you. sorry. ubuntu is not debian. |
| 15:00.35 | kash | that's the same thing |
| 15:00.39 | FieldySnuts | no it is not. christ. |
| 15:00.44 | citral | grrrr |
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| 15:00.49 | kash | ubuntu is based on deb |
| 15:00.55 | citral | !based on debian |
| 15:00.56 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 15:00.57 | nipplesrulz | goes to afsd#@$@#WRAF work |
| 15:00.57 | asg | kash: and we told you 'apt-get install plone' |
| 15:00.59 | FieldySnuts | kash: we have to explain this 50 times a day, so get ready for a lot of pissed off people. |
| 15:01.12 | asg | kash: that is how we do things in debian. If ubuntu has a gui package manager, use it. |
| 15:01.34 | kash | we get it on ubuntu |
| 15:01.36 | kash | ... |
| 15:01.41 | kash | thanks |
| 15:01.57 | blujay | kash: just use Synaptic, and turn on universe if you need it |
| 15:02.11 | kash | oki |
| 15:02.17 | wrs | Hi everybody |
| 15:02.23 | blujay | hi |
| 15:02.27 | FieldySnuts | hai |
| 15:02.33 | asg | blujay: you ought to hang out in #ubunut, you appear to give better ubuntu support than they do ;) |
| 15:02.35 | citral | don't ever begin to help them, or we'll turn on #based-on-debian-and-affiliates |
| 15:02.41 | wrs | Hi blujay, FieldySnuts |
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| 15:02.53 | blujay | asg: hehe, I only use it on a very old laptop, I run Debian on my main comp |
| 15:02.57 | wrs | FieldySnuts: Still in IRC? Or yet again? ;-) |
| 15:02.59 | asg | blujay: ;) |
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| 15:03.05 | kash | dkpg, i understand what u say don't worry ... |
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| 15:03.29 | blujay | kash: dpkg is a bot :) |
| 15:03.36 | kash | ah oki |
| 15:03.43 | kash | weelll....... |
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| 15:04.21 | FieldySnuts | er i thought it was # |
| 15:04.22 | FieldySnuts | E |
| 15:04.38 | FieldySnuts | odd, the server is telling me it doesn't know about that. nevermind i guess (used to work) |
| 15:04.48 | asg | FieldySnuts: worked here a few seconds ago |
| 15:05.04 | ysothoth | IT's a c-o-n spiracy. |
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| 15:05.15 | streuner | those spammers are a mess, you need an extra op 24/7 to kick all spammers ... :-) |
| 15:05.32 | blujay | we need a votekick system :) heh |
| 15:05.32 | FieldySnuts | or 10 minute gn*a floods... |
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| 15:05.45 | streuner | haha |
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| 15:06.03 | asg | blujay: a votekick system would probably result in all the oldtimers in here being banned within hours |
| 15:06.09 | FieldySnuts | heh! |
| 15:06.10 | ysothoth | Pahahah |
| 15:06.12 | streuner | !fuck on-join spammers |
| 15:06.14 | bodq | FieldySnuts, streuner, what ar you talking about? :) I don't see any spam... |
| 15:06.14 | blujay | asg: yup...your point? LOL j/k |
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| 15:06.29 | citral | *spam* |
| 15:06.29 | FieldySnuts | bodq: part, wait 5 seconds, come back. wait about 30 seconds past that. |
| 15:06.34 | streuner | bodq: leave and come back |
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| 15:07.00 | FieldySnuts | it's delayed spam, so wait a bit. |
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| 15:07.05 | bodq | okay :) |
| 15:07.11 | asg | mentor: did you get on-join from " ` " yet? |
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| 15:07.17 | pipeline | What, is the spam what passes for conversation? |
| 15:07.26 | citral | so now you know wher eyou want to go for free teens videos |
| 15:07.34 | FieldySnuts | @lose citral |
| 15:07.36 | ravenbird | citral: You Lose. |
| 15:07.38 | wrs | since there were some mysterious configuration activities on my box yesterday, /etc/init.d/networking doesn't preconfigure my pppoe link anymore. I placed there a "ifup ethX up" but I'm pretty sure it has to be in /etc/network/interfaces instead. But if i put an "interface ethX inet ppp" there it doesn't work neither. |
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| 15:07.49 | FieldySnuts | fhffhqvb: badger |
| 15:07.52 | citral | I may lose, but I don't suck ;) |
| 15:07.59 | fhffhqvb | FieldySnuts: Onqtref |
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| 15:08.06 | FieldySnuts | rot13? |
| 15:08.07 | blujay | wrs: what mysterious configuration activities? |
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| 15:08.22 | doc_ | i cannot get my wifi card into monitor mode. patching the kernel and installing standalone orinoco driver didn't help. anyone ? |
| 15:08.23 | bodq | hmm, no spam yet :) |
| 15:08.31 | FieldySnuts | odd, i got it. shrug |
| 15:08.38 | citral | `: spam |
| 15:08.42 | FieldySnuts | some of them are a bit intelligent, they don't always do it |
| 15:08.46 | FieldySnuts | or delay |
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| 15:09.08 | citral | intelligent heh |
| 15:09.12 | FieldySnuts | the most annoying ones place one nick on a different host in the channel, relay the nicks to the actual spam bot on another host, outside the channel, and that msgs them. not fun trying to figure out who the relayer is |
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| 15:09.19 | kbrooks | test |
| 15:09.23 | kbrooks | can hear me? |
| 15:09.24 | asg | kbrooks: no, you're not online |
| 15:09.30 | liable | doc_: your card supports monitor mode, they dont all. |
| 15:09.32 | streuner | kbrooks: nope |
| 15:09.32 | FieldySnuts | @test kbrooks |
| 15:09.33 | ravenbird | Testing kbrooks... ROM BASIC NOT FOUND$#$ |
| 15:09.37 | ysothoth | make sure your compter is plugged in |
| 15:09.41 | citral | kbrooks: you're +q |
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| 15:09.53 | FieldySnuts | kbrooks was before, ircing from root |
| 15:09.54 | kbrooks | citral: you are joking. i was |
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| 15:10.02 | doc_ | liable: yes it does, the monitor mode works perfectly under openbsd and knoppix livecd. it's a nl-2511cd plus ext2 |
| 15:10.07 | citral | kbrooks: oh, heh |
| 15:10.12 | kbrooks | so |
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| 15:10.22 | FieldySnuts | Rez: if you get spam from " ` " like many of us have (delayed about 30 seconds), can you please make them bite the dust? |
| 15:10.29 | FieldySnuts | (can't get op attention...) |
| 15:10.33 | liable | doc_: and you have done the iwconfig dance? |
| 15:10.35 | kbrooks | brb |
| 15:10.40 | doc_ | liable: meaning ? :) |
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| 15:10.45 | ysothoth | smack |
| 15:10.47 | asg | FieldySnuts: I wonder if the spammers are now programmed not to onjoin known ops in certain channels ;) |
| 15:10.54 | FieldySnuts | asg: i've seen it |
| 15:11.01 | bodq | FieldySnuts: i don't get it even from #redhat |
| 15:11.06 | liable | doc_: iwconfig eth0 mode monitor |
| 15:11.07 | asg | FieldySnuts: I got it a few minutes ago |
| 15:11.09 | ysothoth | doc - meaning you read the fecking driver docs |
| 15:11.14 | FieldySnuts | odd. it's either not spamming everyone, or lagged, or etc |
| 15:11.21 | FieldySnuts | oobe: please don't ping me. |
| 15:11.22 | FieldySnuts | oh lame |
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| 15:11.25 | FieldySnuts | -oobe- Ping Reply (1) Seconds .|| TROUBLE-WAREZ t ||. |
| 15:11.27 | FieldySnuts | get outta here. |
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| 15:11.27 | doc_ | ysothoth: i woudln't be here otherwise |
| 15:11.32 | citral | bodq: maybe because your nick begins like bob2, the op |
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| 15:11.39 | doc_ | liable: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument. |
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| 15:11.52 | kbrooks | brb |
| 15:11.56 | FieldySnuts | lagged |
| 15:11.56 | shining | does anyone know how to use offlineimap ? |
| 15:12.03 | liable | doc_: of course your card is eth0? |
| 15:12.06 | kbrooks | :) |
| 15:12.09 | FieldySnuts | @ops oobe has a script which pings you on the word "lagged" |
| 15:12.11 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: oobe has a script which pings you on the word "lagged" |
| 15:12.12 | wrs | blujay: well, a kind of "that was not me" *hem*: I did a dselect -> update, install. It ran through without any queries to me, so i thought all was fine. But it wasn't fine. After rebooting, pppoe didn't came up the usual way. I tracked it down to that "ifconfig ethX up" thingy. |
| 15:12.15 | shining | I don't understand which password it's asking |
| 15:12.17 | bodq | heh. /nick bob33;/join #debian; /nick mynick :) |
| 15:12.25 | FieldySnuts | must be the weekend... |
| 15:12.26 | liable | doc_: noy ath0 or eth2 or ??? |
| 15:12.29 | streuner | asg: how they would know, every op could join the channel with different host name, so it impossible for them to see that. |
| 15:12.29 | pipeline | lagged |
| 15:12.32 | doc_ | liable: eth0 is another nic |
| 15:12.37 | citral | sunday approches |
| 15:12.39 | pipeline | hahahahhahahaha .|| TROUBLE-WAREZ §Ç®îþt ||. |
| 15:12.39 | blujay | wrs: so you can make it work manually, but it just doesn't come up automatically? |
| 15:12.42 | fhffhqvb | lagged |
| 15:12.43 | doc_ | liable: eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"" Nickname:"Prism I" |
| 15:12.45 | FieldySnuts | yeah. warez kiddie. |
| 15:12.47 | asg | streuner: most don't though. |
| 15:12.53 | wrs | blujay: yes, that it is |
| 15:12.54 | doc_ | liable: i wouldn't be here unless i was certain i did everything correctly |
| 15:13.01 | FieldySnuts | @lart oobe |
| 15:13.05 | blujay | wrs: are you on testing or unstable? |
| 15:13.10 | streuner | asg: but the possibity exist... |
| 15:13.15 | wrs | blujay: testing |
| 15:13.17 | FieldySnuts | apt: rahulesmite oobe |
| 15:13.18 | asg | streuner: except for Rez (who's usually LoRez) |
| 15:13.24 | FieldySnuts | apt: rahulsmite oobe |
| 15:13.28 | FieldySnuts | feh. bbl |
| 15:13.31 | liable | doc_: tried the scanning command? |
| 15:13.32 | blujay | wrs: do you happen to use apt-listchanges? |
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| 15:13.39 | doc_ | liable: doesnt work either |
| 15:13.42 | liable | doc_: tried kismet? |
| 15:13.54 | doc_ | liable: no use trying kismet unless i'm in monitor mode |
| 15:13.56 | wrs | blujay: no, i don't know any apt-listchanges. What is that? |
| 15:14.07 | doc_ | liable: kismet works fine under openbsd and knoppix on the same box with the same card |
| 15:14.16 | streuner | asg: they don't care, they send as many as bots, don't care if most of them bannend or not |
| 15:14.25 | asg | streuner: I know |
| 15:14.27 | liable | doc_: well kismet will do it |
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| 15:14.41 | asg | streuner: personally, it's a minor irritant so I don't personally care either way. |
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| 15:14.46 | doc_ | liable: will do what ? put it in monitor mode ? |
| 15:14.54 | liable | doc_: yes |
| 15:14.57 | blujay | wrs: it's a plugin for apt that shows changes and can mail them to you when you upgrade. I recommend you take a look at it. But anyway, you might see if you can figure out which package that was upgraded caused the problem, and then examine the changelog for that package, and see if you can figure out why it broke it. If not, might file a bug. |
| 15:15.02 | asg | aardvark: 11:14 -!- ` [~Fono@62.135.38.44] has quit [Client Quit] |
| 15:15.08 | aardvark | :-| |
| 15:15.15 | FieldySnuts | @blaireau aardvark |
| 15:15.17 | ravenbird | aardvark: blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau champignon champignon blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau serpent! oooh un serpeeeent! |
| 15:15.20 | asg | aardvark: I guess you confused it with rot13 |
| 15:15.39 | liable | doc_: why anyway? unless you are scanning networks |
| 15:15.39 | doc_ | liable: no it wont i need to do that myself. i tried launching kismet just now, gave me monitor mode error |
| 15:15.53 | wrs | blujay: well, i'm going to have a look at it... |
| 15:15.59 | blujay | wrs: good luck |
| 15:16.09 | wrs | blujay: thanks :) |
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| 15:16.25 | doc_ | liable: want to make my hardware work that's all. i can use the wifi card on my laptop (works fine) or under openbsd. but i don't see why it shouldn't work under linux (other than knoppix) |
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| 15:16.47 | doc_ | liable: and yes i do warroofing. i have a 200mW card and a 24 dbi antenna and i live on 11th floor (roof) |
| 15:16.48 | liable | doc_: hmmm, latest drivers etc? should be able to |
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| 15:17.14 | liable | hah warroofing :) |
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| 15:17.26 | doc_ | liable: i tried patching the kernel with the patch from kismetwireless.net which is precicely ment to allow monitor mode under linux |
| 15:17.29 | doc_ | liable: yeah... :) |
| 15:17.53 | doc_ | liable: up to now i got into about 70 routers from my rooftop |
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| 15:18.21 | liable | doc_: your a bad man and we shouldnt be helping you anyway |
| 15:18.32 | hulu | i'm looking for a very simple web server. any recommendations? |
| 15:18.39 | doc_ | liable: don't say that just cuz you can't help me :) |
| 15:18.42 | liable | s/we/me |
| 15:18.44 | blujay | hulu: apache no good? |
| 15:19.01 | liable | doc_: thats the easiest way out ;) |
| 15:19.05 | wrs | hulu: what about dillo? |
| 15:19.07 | hulu | blujay: apache very good but i just need some small trivial thing |
| 15:19.15 | doc_ | liable: i will now try to downgrade to 2.6.9 and .8 see if the patches work there |
| 15:19.27 | blujay | hulu: ok but is there some reason you can't use apache? :) |
| 15:19.28 | streuner | wrs: since when is dillo a webserver? |
| 15:19.32 | doc_ | liable: because knoppix in fact uses 2.6.9 |
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| 15:19.59 | wrs | hulu: sorry, i read wrong.. |
| 15:20.08 | pngwn | hulu, dhttpd |
| 15:20.16 | dcom | !ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.17 | dcom | @ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.17 | dcom | ~ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.18 | apt | okay, dcom |
| 15:20.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.18 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.27 | asdf23333 | !ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.27 | hulu | i remeber there used to be that cool kernel based one... |
| 15:20.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.28 | asdf23333 | @ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.28 | asdf23333 | ~ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.29 | apt | ...but ops [g][n][a][a] is already something else... |
| 15:20.29 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.32 | asdf23333 | !ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.32 | aardvark | go away kawfee we don't want to play. |
| 15:20.33 | asdf23333 | @ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.36 | WolfCub | Is there a way to force all programs, including non-kde programs to use arts for the sound mixer? |
| 15:20.39 | fd33333333333333 | !ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.42 | fd33333333333333 | @ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.43 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.45 | fd33333333333333 | ~ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.46 | apt | ...but ops [g][n][a][a] is already something else... |
| 15:20.52 | fd33333333333333 | !ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.55 | fd33333333333333 | @ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.56 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.57 | FieldySnuts | fuck |
| 15:20.58 | fd33333333333333 | ~ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:20.59 | apt | ...but ops [g][n][a][a] is already something else... |
| 15:21.08 | fd33333333333333 | !ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:21.09 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:21.09 | fd33333333333333 | @ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:21.10 | fd33333333333333 | ~ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:21.11 | apt | ...but ops [g][n][a][a] is already something else... |
| 15:21.11 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:21.12 | WolfCub | Stop spamming. |
| 15:21.15 | WolfCub | Ffs. |
| 15:21.24 | aardvark | alindeman? |
| 15:21.24 | asg | WolfCub: telling it to do so will only make it worse. |
| 15:21.27 | fd33333333333333 | !ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:21.28 | fd33333333333333 | @ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:21.28 | fd33333333333333 | ~ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:21.29 | apt | ...but ops [g][n][a][a] is already something else... |
| 15:21.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:21.29 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ HELIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:21.32 | hulu | oh boy some 12-year-old is getting his rocks off |
| 15:21.35 | FieldySnuts | FUCKING STOP THEM |
| 15:21.49 | poli | hum K-lines work... |
| 15:21.52 | FieldySnuts | gawd. |
| 15:21.53 | idnar | why did ravenbird get klined? |
| 15:21.54 | streuner | thanks LoReZ |
| 15:21.55 | blujay | see, patience :) |
| 15:21.59 | timo_ | whats klines? |
| 15:22.05 | asg | timo_: ircd bans |
| 15:22.10 | timo_ | ah |
| 15:22.31 | dvs | They banned ravenbird? |
| 15:22.42 | alindeman | Was a mistake |
| 15:22.50 | asg | alindeman: thanks for taking care of that |
| 15:22.51 | Ikarus | ROFL, GNAA |
| 15:22.56 | Ikarus | Never expected them here |
| 15:22.58 | Ikarus | bastards |
| 15:23.01 | streuner | thanks alineman |
| 15:23.07 | asg | Ikarus: it's an old animosity |
| 15:23.08 | streuner | thanks alindeman |
| 15:23.09 | FieldySnuts | shit you should have seen what was it yesterday? they did that a lot worse for about 10 minutes non stop |
| 15:23.14 | FieldySnuts | alindeman: :) |
| 15:23.16 | alindeman | If it autoreconnects, it should be back; sorry about the misfire ;) |
| 15:23.20 | alindeman | np |
| 15:23.26 | Ikarus | asg: we got hit in another channel thanks to CowboyNeal being there |
| 15:23.28 | poli | thanks alindeman... ;) |
| 15:23.32 | dvs | @hi |
| 15:23.35 | WolfCub | Ok now back to my question since the spam has stopped, is there a way to force all programs, including non-kde programs to use arts for the sound mixer? |
| 15:23.36 | dvs | ;-( |
| 15:23.43 | asg | Ikarus: yeah, that's not surprising. |
| 15:24.05 | timo_ | never seen this kind of spamming on efnet |
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| 15:24.27 | Ikarus | timo_: GNAA is a proffesional grade lamer organisation, which makes them pretty pathetic |
| 15:24.34 | Ronin | timo_: your in the wrong channels then :) |
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| 15:24.43 | timo_ | Ikarus: ok |
| 15:24.44 | onre | idiots exist in all irc networks, i think |
| 15:24.48 | FieldySnuts | apt: forget ops [g][n][a][a] |
| 15:24.48 | apt | i forgot ops [g][n][a][a], FieldySnuts |
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| 15:24.50 | timo_ | Ronin: im in many different channels |
| 15:24.59 | ix | that's unavoidable, onre |
| 15:24.59 | timo_ | Ronin: obviously in the right ones :) |
| 15:25.08 | streuner | ravenbird, wb |
| 15:25.08 | ravenbird | thanks, streuner. It's good to be back. |
| 15:25.11 | Ronin | timo_: true |
| 15:25.20 | FieldySnuts | poor ravenbirdie got caught up in that |
| 15:25.27 | streuner | hehe |
| 15:25.29 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: forget ops [g][n][a][a] |
| 15:25.34 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: forget ops [g][n][a][a] |
| 15:25.34 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: i didn't have anything called 'ops [g][n][a][a]' to forget |
| 15:25.36 | WolfCub | You guys know how you can use aoss to force that mixer, isn't there a command to force programs to use aRTS? |
| 15:25.40 | FieldySnuts | odd how apt took it but the others didn't |
| 15:25.42 | ravenbird | i didn't have anything called 'ops [g][n][a][a]' to forget, FieldySnuts |
| 15:26.01 | ysothoth | WolfCub: You can try to wrap your programs with artsdap |
| 15:26.06 | paulswm | onre: never any idiots here, heh |
| 15:26.07 | ysothoth | WolfCub: oops, artsdsp |
| 15:26.14 | WolfCub | Ok how do I do that? |
| 15:26.32 | ysothoth | WolfCub: Though honestly I am not sure why you like artsd so much :) |
| 15:26.33 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:26.37 | onre | paulswm, the episode three minutes ago proved otherwise :P |
| 15:26.39 | ysothoth | WolfCub: Yep :) |
| 15:26.56 | WolfCub | Ysothoth: because then I can run multiple sounds at once. |
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| 15:27.04 | ysothoth | Shrug |
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| 15:27.22 | ysothoth | WolfCub: It is too slow. |
| 15:28.03 | WolfCub | Yeah its slow but I got enough CPU for it. |
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| 15:29.24 | WolfCub | Hmmmm it still wont let multiple sounds run at once, can someone provide me with a sample asoundrc file that will allow this? |
| 15:30.00 | bodq | WolfCub: what's your sound card? |
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| 15:30.22 | bodq | WolfCub: see FAQ in the Wiki, http://alsa.opensrc.org/ |
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| 15:30.50 | WolfCub | Nvidia sound storm. |
| 15:31.29 | bodq | WolfCub: it should support hardware mixing, it seems to be new, isn't it ? |
| 15:31.47 | WolfCub | 2003 |
| 15:31.51 | liable | bah i've been trying to remember the app that lets you have multiple input to your soundcard for days, its not jack but the other one :) |
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| 15:32.28 | goron | WolfCub: Nvidia support for nforce2 is bad (understatement). It makes your Linux box crash. |
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| 15:32.49 | dikky | @ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ PENIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:32.49 | dikky | ~ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ MHAL TLOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:32.50 | apt | okay, dikky |
| 15:32.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ ABROTMAN TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:32.51 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ PENIX TOLD US TO DO THIS |
| 15:32.52 | paster | "Twisted" at 68.126.218.70 pasted "Can get apt to funking upgrade." (12 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/45 |
| 15:32.54 | r3Fl3X | wohoo.. |
| 15:32.57 | `UD` | !ops [G][N][A][A] ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A *GAY* NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA WANTS YOU! HTTP://WWW.GNAA.US/ ABROTMAN TOLD US TO DO THIS |
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| 15:33.10 | WolfCub | Ok now I managed to allow 2 sounds at once. |
| 15:33.15 | Twisted_Emotions | ? |
| 15:33.19 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:33.38 | FieldySnuts | nice spelling on "mhal" |
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| 15:33.50 | Twisted_Emotions | Anyone else gettung this gay nigger shit? |
| 15:33.54 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 15:34.00 | WolfCub | Yeah they're spammin. |
| 15:34.01 | dvs | FieldySnuts: apt is remembering this stuff |
| 15:34.05 | asg | Twisted_Emotions: standard spamming, disregard |
| 15:34.09 | FieldySnuts | oh yeah that's right |
| 15:34.11 | Twisted_Emotions | KK.. |
| 15:34.13 | FieldySnuts | apt: forget ops gnaa |
| 15:34.14 | apt | FieldySnuts: i didn't have anything called 'ops gnaa' to forget |
| 15:34.22 | deckrider | Hi, normally I don't have a problem with setup of X on sarge, but on a new laptop, I'm getting the "no screens found" fatal server error. Is there anyone who could please assist me with this? |
| 15:34.22 | Twisted_Emotions | sorry... though maybe I was the only one.. |
| 15:34.23 | FieldySnuts | apt: forget ops [g][n][a][a] |
| 15:34.23 | apt | FieldySnuts: i forgot ops [g][n][a][a] |
| 15:34.47 | bodq | what is gnaa? |
| 15:34.55 | goron | Could someone post his sources.list on some paste page? |
| 15:34.56 | dvs | bodq: Who cares. |
| 15:34.58 | asg | !no screens found |
| 15:34.58 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE) |
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| 15:35.07 | Twisted_Emotions | I am having a program with apt-get on my server that I just had my VPS guys reinstall the OS on... pasted here |
| 15:35.07 | asg | goron: apt-setup |
| 15:35.08 | Twisted_Emotions | http://channels.debian.net/paste/45 |
| 15:35.22 | asg | Twisted_Emotions: did you do 'apt-get update' as suggested? |
| 15:35.23 | Twisted_Emotions | **problem not program |
| 15:35.24 | bodq | dvs, ignorance is a bliss? |
| 15:35.33 | Twisted_Emotions | asg: yes same thing |
| 15:35.46 | asg | Twisted_Emotions: paste the output of 'apt-get update' |
| 15:35.51 | streuner | bodq: in that case its a feature ;-) |
| 15:35.54 | asg | Twisted_Emotions: in the paster, not in here |
| 15:36.00 | paster | "dvs" at 66.11.164.82 pasted "My sources.list" (9 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/46 |
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| 15:36.11 | goron | asg: I tried dpkg-reconfigure apt, but that crashed. But this gives the same error, but doesn't crash. Thanks |
| 15:36.15 | dvs | bodq: Pretty much |
| 15:36.22 | bodq | dvs, shame on you! :) |
| 15:36.23 | dvs | goron: I just pasted mine |
| 15:36.33 | deckrider | hmmm....there is this: "(EE) No devices detected." |
| 15:36.38 | dvs | :-P |
| 15:37.08 | streuner | deckrider: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
| 15:37.08 | goron | dvs: I will look at that too. But apt-setup will do also. Thx. |
| 15:37.08 | asg | deckrider: then you need to choose the correct X driver for your card (or try vesa) |
| 15:37.13 | Twisted_Emotions | paster: was that for me? |
| 15:37.21 | asg | Twisted_Emotions: no, dvs |
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| 15:37.34 | deckrider | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-20 |
| 15:37.34 | Twisted_Emotions | asg: kk thanks |
| 15:37.45 | streuner | deckrider: nvidia? |
| 15:37.54 | deckrider | streuner: no |
| 15:38.04 | streuner | deckrider: what videocard do you have? |
| 15:38.13 | Twisted_Emotions | asg: I swear to my nuts that I ran apt-get update and it did the same thing... now it works.. |
| 15:38.18 | Twisted_Emotions | asg: grrrrrr |
| 15:38.24 | deckrider | streuner: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 15:38.26 | spooz | have anyone here experienced a problem with the NIC when installing debian on an Intel Glen Ridge motherboard? It says that the resource is not available |
| 15:38.41 | goron | Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Temporary failure resolving |
| 15:38.59 | goron | I am using apt-get in a chroot, but it seems it doesn't work. |
| 15:39.22 | FieldySnuts | great now they're msging me |
| 15:39.23 | streuner | deckrider: go visit the website of intel and search for drivers |
| 15:39.30 | dvs | who? |
| 15:39.36 | WolfCub | Well, I managed to get arts to play 2 sounds at once, however its way too slow for gaming heh. |
| 15:39.38 | FieldySnuts | gnaa |
| 15:39.42 | WolfCub | Good enuf I guess. |
| 15:39.43 | dvs | geez! |
| 15:39.47 | deckrider | streuner: oh, so the i810 driver will not work with that card? |
| 15:39.47 | spooz | anyone? A suggestion? |
| 15:40.08 | asg | Twisted_Emotions: :) |
| 15:40.15 | streuner | deckrider: no idea |
| 15:40.20 | deckrider | asg: thanks I will also try that |
| 15:40.29 | deckrider | streuner: ok, thanks |
| 15:40.36 | green_earz | a quit question what the port for ftp ? |
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| 15:41.24 | asg | deckrider: I have a similar card. 'vesa' is what I use. |
| 15:41.47 | dvs | green_earz: 21 |
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| 15:42.55 | deckrider | asg: yes, that worked, thanks |
| 15:43.02 | green_earz | thanks |
| 15:43.08 | dvs | np |
| 15:43.29 | deckrider | asg: is there anything to get tuxracer working nicely with this card? |
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| 15:45.00 | citral | smells like suuuunday |
| 15:45.06 | FieldySnuts | ew |
| 15:45.13 | Ryushin | I need to build a new server for running Debian on. I'm a fan of the Tyan motherboards and there is only one for the Athlon 64. It has the 939 socket which I think is the standard now, but it uses the nForce4 chipset. Does the 2.6 kernel have native support for nForce4 chipset? |
| 15:45.30 | FieldySnuts | apt: lart dvs |
| 15:45.33 | FieldySnuts | oh mean |
| 15:45.37 | Eclipser | citral, it's still saturday, isn't it? |
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| 15:45.41 | dvs | D'oh! |
| 15:45.47 | FieldySnuts | sorry heh |
| 15:45.57 | citral | Eclipser: sunday comes sooner as aone would think |
| 15:46.06 | dvs | no prob. I'm still standing. |
| 15:46.06 | Eclipser | true |
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| 15:46.15 | resiak | It's Sunday in about 1/3 of the world, if my calculations are correct. :) |
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| 15:46.24 | dvs | 1/4 |
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| 15:46.35 | dvs | not even |
| 15:47.00 | resiak | dvs: Good point, my calculations aren't correct. 1/6 |
| 15:47.06 | dvs | ;-) |
| 15:47.33 | spooz | from -12 GMT to +6 GMT it is currently sunday |
| 15:47.54 | spooz | argh |
| 15:47.59 | spooz | saturday * |
| 15:48.00 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.01 | spooz | even |
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| 15:48.12 | resiak | WolfCub: I'm a first-year maths and comsci, so not specialised yet. |
| 15:48.17 | Twisted_Emotions | Hey I'm upgrading debian.. asking me if I should Enable iptables init.d script? |
| 15:48.21 | WolfCub | Computational mathematics then, cool. |
| 15:48.33 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: do you want a firewall? |
| 15:48.34 | perdenab_ | i have recently seen some very weird behavior with my video under debian. for a long time, debian would boot up in 640x480, the screen being a subwindow of a much larger virtual screen. i was getting a message at boot-time that the ATI module was failing to load, but no other info |
| 15:48.41 | perdenab_ | lo and behold, this morning it booted up normally |
| 15:48.47 | resiak | WolfCub: Well, I guess. I'm more a comsci who wants a maths degree :) |
| 15:48.49 | perdenab_ | nothing has changed in the OS config |
| 15:48.51 | c00p | in debian how do I get back into post system configuration |
| 15:48.51 | spooz | have anyone here experienced a problem with the NIC when installing debian on an Intel Glen Ridge motherboard? It says that the resource is not available |
| 15:48.52 | c00p | ? |
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| 15:48.58 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: yes something easy to setup |
| 15:49.05 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.07 | perdenab_ | the whole time, windows on this machine was booting normally, into 1280x1024 |
| 15:49.11 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: say yes, then install Firestarter |
| 15:49.32 | perdenab_ | any idea what could cause this? weird setting in the video board? fsck'd BIOS ? |
| 15:49.55 | blujay | c00p, maybe you want base-config |
| 15:50.00 | resiak | WolfCub: Yes, it seemed to me that Maths + Comp sounds a lot better than Computer Science. In any case, it seems that I'm conveniently avoiding all the boring bits of both subjects \o/ |
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| 15:50.17 | c00p | need to get my mouse working with system .. what do you reccomend ? |
| 15:50.24 | resiak | c00p: Plugging it in. |
| 15:50.29 | spooz | .. |
| 15:50.30 | spooz | heh |
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| 15:50.43 | blujay | c00p, dpkg --configure xfree86-common maybe... |
| 15:50.48 | WolfCub | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.51 | c00p | do I need a kernel module for mouse support ? |
| 15:50.57 | dvs | !drxx c00P |
| 15:50.58 | dpkg | c00P: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 15:50.59 | dvs | !drxx c00 |
| 15:50.59 | dpkg | c00: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 15:51.06 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: run the sshd server? |
| 15:51.08 | resiak | WolfCub: Absolutely. Don't get me wrong: I love maths. |
| 15:51.08 | dvs | rats! |
| 15:51.12 | resiak | c00p: Possibly mousedev |
| 15:51.14 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: only if you want to |
| 15:51.23 | streuner | c00p: what kind of mouse do you have? |
| 15:51.29 | blujay | dvs: hehe I was close, I always mess that up |
| 15:51.32 | c00p | thanks :) will try |
| 15:51.36 | resiak | c00p: I often find that echo mousedev >> /etc/modules; modprobe mousedev is helpful. |
| 15:51.37 | perdenab_ | some combination of EE and CS can be good. you'll get maths with EE, and also have a good understanding of hardware, very useful |
| 15:51.45 | c00p | usb ms wheel optical usb |
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| 15:51.58 | spooz | have anyone had trouble with an Intel Pro 10/100 onboard NIC when installing Debian? |
| 15:52.02 | streuner | !tell c00p about usbmouse |
| 15:52.03 | spooz | Come on guys.. i need this one |
| 15:52.06 | dvs | resiak: Been there done that, won't do it again! ;-) |
| 15:52.14 | resiak | dvs: ? |
| 15:52.23 | dvs | resiak: Comp Sci degree |
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| 15:52.30 | resiak | dvs: You no likey? |
| 15:52.37 | blujay | spooz, does it work with Knoppix? |
| 15:52.49 | dvs | resiak: I use to "likey" but got fed up with it half way through |
| 15:52.55 | spooz | blujay I have not tried it with knoppix |
| 15:53.01 | blujay | spooz, might want to |
| 15:53.17 | dvs | resiak: I did finish though |
| 15:53.29 | spooz | blujay why? how will it help me with debian= |
| 15:53.30 | spooz | ? |
| 15:53.32 | resiak | dvs: On what did your course focus? |
| 15:53.50 | dvs | resiak: Comp Sci degree in Mathematics. |
| 15:53.54 | WolfCub | What ports does firestarter block by default? any? |
| 15:53.57 | resiak | dvs: |
| 15:54.05 | dvs | huh? |
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| 15:54.10 | resiak | dvs: Mmm, so roughly what I'm doing by a different name? |
| 15:54.13 | blujay | spooz: Knoppix is based on Debian. If it works with Knoppix, it will likely work with Debian. |
| 15:54.20 | dvs | resiak: Sounds like it. |
| 15:54.25 | blujay | WolfCub: click on the Policy tab |
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| 15:54.41 | resiak | dvs: *shrug* I'm enjoying mine as much as can be expected of a course. |
| 15:54.42 | WolfCub | Nothings in policy. |
| 15:54.47 | spooz | blujay: but it does not work with the debian installation (3.0R5) |
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| 15:54.55 | blujay | WolfCub: then probably nothing is blocked |
| 15:54.59 | resiak | spooz: Why are you installing Woody? |
| 15:55.04 | resiak | !d-i spooz |
| 15:55.05 | dpkg | spooz, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:55.11 | blujay | spooz: yeah, you didn't mention that you were using Woody... |
| 15:55.12 | spooz | resiak: server |
| 15:55.24 | BrianHV | what would cause a usb device to be recognized according to /var/log/messages but be inaccessible to userland? |
| 15:55.33 | WolfCub | Is there some sort of default button to set up what ports to block? I don't want to have to do it all manually. |
| 15:55.35 | resiak | spooz: Fair enough, but to be honest if your hardware is new then installing Woody may well prove insanely difficult. World-facing server? |
| 15:55.38 | blujay | spooz, have you searched the debian mailing lists? the Linux Hardware Compatibility List? |
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| 15:55.51 | dvs | BrianHV: Not belonging to the right group? |
| 15:55.52 | spooz | blujay: resiak: what do you suggest instead of woody? |
| 15:55.57 | resiak | spooz: Sarge. |
| 15:56.01 | resiak | !d-i spooz |
| 15:56.01 | blujay | WolfCub: click Add Rule |
| 15:56.02 | dpkg | spooz, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:56.05 | resiak | spooz: But is your server world-facing? |
| 15:56.20 | BrianHV | dvs: the error is no such device, not no permission |
| 15:56.22 | spooz | resiak: yes, its to be located in a datacenter |
| 15:56.23 | blujay | spooz: get the netinst ISO for Sarge and use that |
| 15:56.40 | Twisted_Emotions | How do u check ur current package version again? |
| 15:56.41 | dvs | BrianHV: Then you might not have the /dev entry for it. |
| 15:56.44 | blujay | spooz, have you searched the debian mailing lists? the Linux Hardware Compatibility List? |
| 15:56.53 | resiak | spooz: You _must_ subscribe to dsa if you use Sarge on a world-facing server and be very diligent. Then again, you should subscribe anyway. /msg dpkg dsa |
| 15:56.53 | BrianHV | dvs: I do. the error is no such device, not file not found. ;) |
| 15:56.54 | dvs | Twisted_Emotions: dpkg -l <package-name> |
| 15:57.00 | spooz | blujay: no, im very new to debian |
| 15:57.03 | spooz | ive googled |
| 15:57.07 | spooz | ive been on intels site |
| 15:57.12 | Twisted_Emotions | dvs: thanks |
| 15:57.13 | blujay | spooz: well, search those |
| 15:57.15 | spooz | and debians too of course |
| 15:57.19 | dvs | BrianHV: You can have the /dev entry there and still have "no device found" |
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| 15:57.24 | spooz | Well, im just gonna use sarge!! |
| 15:57.24 | dvs | Twisted_Emotions: np |
| 15:57.40 | blujay | spooz: good idea, just remember that until Sarge is released, it doesn't get security updates |
| 15:57.44 | dvs | !beer spooz |
| 15:57.47 | spooz | is sarge a newer kernel? |
| 15:57.48 | spooz | heh |
| 15:57.56 | BrianHV | dvs: yes, that's what's happening. I'm trying to figure out why. |
| 15:57.56 | dvs | spooz: yes, 2.6.89 |
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| 15:57.57 | dvs | spooz: yes, 2.6.8 |
| 15:58.10 | Twisted_Emotions | Anyone here on mIRC? |
| 15:58.16 | spooz | what? Until sarge is released??? How can I download and install it if theres no release? |
| 15:58.19 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: uh...that's for Windows |
| 15:58.31 | dvs | spooz: You can still download it now. |
| 15:58.33 | resiak | spooz: Are you installing woody with bf24? |
| 15:58.34 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: eh? |
| 15:58.36 | Twisted_Emotions | bluejay: I know.. ;( I need windows at home.. |
| 15:58.37 | resiak | !d-i spooz |
| 15:58.38 | dpkg | spooz, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:58.41 | blujay | is there a ! command to explain the release process? |
| 15:58.44 | resiak | Twisted_Emotions: Why? |
| 15:58.44 | blujay | heh |
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| 15:58.51 | ruukia | i need help.. i've asked this in the ubuntu channel as well.. my laptop hangs (black screen) when I try to restart the computer from gnome :( is there a solution to this prob ? |
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| 15:58.53 | Twisted_Emotions | liable: do u run mirc? |
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| 15:59.01 | dvs | !faq blujay |
| 15:59.01 | dpkg | blujay: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 15:59.02 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: bah |
| 15:59.09 | blujay | ah, cool |
| 15:59.13 | blujay | thx dvs |
| 15:59.15 | Twisted_Emotions | resiak: cause im a linux newb... and cause I gave hardcore |
| 15:59.18 | SuperSox | I'm having a problem, whenver I insert a pcmcia card, cardctl info/ident picks it up fine, but in dmesg it shows nothing and the card doesn't seem to get a /dev entry |
| 15:59.21 | dvs | blujay: np |
| 15:59.22 | Twisted_Emotions | *game |
| 15:59.54 | resiak | Twisted_Emotions: What games? |
| 15:59.56 | spooz | does anyone have a download link for sarge? I can only locate 3.0R4 and R5 |
| 16:00.01 | resiak | !d-i spooz |
| 16:00.03 | dpkg | spooz, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 16:00.05 | Twisted_Emotions | Counter strike.. Splinter cell.. |
| 16:00.05 | resiak | spooz: For the _fourth_ time. |
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| 16:00.08 | spooz | resiak; did that |
| 16:00.13 | resiak | Twisted_Emotions: They may well run on Cedega |
| 16:00.19 | streuner | spooz: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 16:00.21 | dvs | spooz: Then what's wrong? |
| 16:00.37 | Twisted_Emotions | resiak: still leaves the me being a newb |
| 16:00.47 | streuner | !n00b |
| 16:00.48 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 16:00.56 | Twisted_Emotions | resiak: trying to learn on VPS before i dive in. |
| 16:01.02 | spooz | when clicking on download I only get the option to download r5 and r4 |
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| 16:01.09 | blujay | spooz: get the netinst ISO |
| 16:01.13 | spooz | OHH |
| 16:01.13 | spooz | ok |
| 16:01.15 | Twisted_Emotions | streuner: thanks champ ;) |
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| 16:01.28 | streuner | Twisted_Emotions: np ;-) |
| 16:01.50 | resiak | Twisted_Emotions: Fair enough. Diving right in is faster. |
| 16:02.06 | Twisted_Emotions | brb guys |
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| 16:02.59 | spooz | Im sorry.. I cant find the netinst iso |
| 16:03.05 | spooz | its ok to call me stupid |
| 16:03.14 | dvs | !pal spooz |
| 16:03.18 | spooz | heh |
| 16:03.30 | Eclipser | !d-i |
| 16:03.30 | dpkg | [d-i] the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 16:03.33 | streuner | spooz: open your eyes? |
| 16:03.33 | spooz | have your laugh and then please paste me something |
| 16:03.53 | spooz | jesus |
| 16:03.58 | spooz | im so freaking blind |
| 16:04.00 | Eclipser | :) |
| 16:04.12 | smo_ | hi all i have a problem with dri since kernel 2.6.8-2 same shit with 2.6.8-11 all midules are loaded right... i don t understand |
| 16:04.20 | blujay | spooz, have you heard of Google.com? :p |
| 16:04.21 | liable | spooz: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso |
| 16:04.26 | spooz | SHUT UP |
| 16:04.26 | spooz | hehe |
| 16:04.32 | dvs | spooz: The "Installing sarge with the Debian-installer" isn't big enough? |
| 16:04.33 | blujay | ok, I won't help you then :P |
| 16:04.35 | spooz | i was right in front of me the whole time |
| 16:04.37 | spooz | :) |
| 16:04.40 | streuner | !lart spooz |
| 16:04.45 | spooz | i was just being blind |
| 16:04.46 | dvs | !smite spooz |
| 16:04.48 | liable | spooz: open you mouth, here comes the choo-choo |
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| 16:04.55 | spooz | :P |
| 16:04.57 | spooz | i love you too |
| 16:05.03 | spooz | thanks for the help |
| 16:05.10 | blujay | yw |
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| 16:05.14 | c00p | what is the quickest way to get fluxbox installed ? |
| 16:05.14 | spooz | :) |
| 16:05.15 | Eclipser | !yw |
| 16:05.15 | dpkg | well, yw is you're welcome |
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| 16:05.28 | resiak | c00p: apt-get install fluxbox # fast enough for you? |
| 16:05.29 | streuner | c00p: apt-get install fluxbox? |
| 16:05.29 | SuperSox | c00p: apt-get install flucbox |
| 16:05.33 | blujay | thanks, Eclipser, I wondered what I said... |
| 16:05.36 | SuperSox | damn typo. |
| 16:05.41 | Eclipser | blujay, me too |
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| 16:05.49 | blujay | LOL |
| 16:05.52 | blujay | oh, wait... |
| 16:05.53 | blujay | !LOL |
| 16:05.53 | dpkg | LOL stands for Laughs Out Loud, or (more commonly) Lamer On Line. If you insist on using this atrocity, try "/me lol" (preferably after /join #teenchat). "heh" or "haha" is greatly preferred. See also <loll>. |
| 16:05.57 | Eclipser | :p |
| 16:05.59 | blujay | there ya go :P |
| 16:06.10 | smo_ | any1 for my dri problem?? |
| 16:06.21 | FieldySnuts | @annoy smo_ |
| 16:06.23 | Eclipser | !any1 |
| 16:06.23 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 16:06.24 | ravenbird | smo_: HOW TO THIS????? |
| 16:06.32 | perdenab_ | dpkg, yuengling black & tan |
| 16:06.35 | c00p | awsome |
| 16:06.35 | blujay | now, ravenbird, that's not very nice :P |
| 16:06.38 | onre | !loll |
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| 16:06.38 | dpkg | loll, v.i. ... 3. To let the tongue hang from the mouth, as an ox, dog, or other animal, when heated by labor; as, the ox stood lolling in the furrow. ... v 2: be lazy or idle; "The triple porter of the Stygian seat, With lolling tongue lay fawning at thy feet." --Dryden. |
| 16:06.41 | c00p | I am a debian n00b |
| 16:06.45 | c00p | I am a freebsd man |
| 16:06.47 | onre | 'loll' is also estonian for 'stupid' |
| 16:06.50 | streuner | liable: did you get an account at dyndns.org yet? |
| 16:06.54 | c00p | ta for the help |
| 16:06.59 | Eclipser | onre, really?-p |
| 16:07.19 | Eclipser | !fsck |
| 16:07.19 | dpkg | i guess fsck is a file system integrity checker, or a visually-similar euphemism for fuck |
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| 16:07.29 | liable | streuner: yep, after my brain was unsoacked from last nights beer, it works too. :) |
| 16:07.30 | onre | eclipser yup, 'lollakas' being idiot :D |
| 16:07.30 | perdenab_ | bingo |
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| 16:07.40 | Henryk | Moin |
| 16:07.41 | c00p | how can I change my default window manager to fluxbox ? |
| 16:07.56 | streuner | !wm |
| 16:07.56 | dpkg | to set your system-wide default window manager, use "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager". or "update-alternatives --config x-session-manager" For your personal WM, use ~/.xsession if you use xdm or kdm (or gdm with a "Debian session") 'startx' reads .xsession or .xinitrc; "apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager" will give you a list of available WMs. |
| 16:07.56 | liable | streuner: thanks too |
| 16:08.01 | loocek | hey! my pal say that he can watch films from some computer in local network with no using samba,nfs,ssh....then what other way he can ? :) |
| 16:08.19 | Eclipser | dpkg has all the answers :p |
| 16:08.22 | blujay | loocek: maybe streaming with VLC |
| 16:08.28 | goron | loocek: Maybe he wrote his own :) |
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| 16:08.47 | raf256 | how can I turn on/off disc cash |
| 16:08.50 | loocek | ...and he watch on windows this films... |
| 16:08.50 | raf256 | cache |
| 16:09.00 | blujay | loocek: maybe streaming with VLC |
| 16:09.03 | Eclipser | raf256, hdparm ? |
| 16:09.05 | streuner | Eclipser: it still needs sometimes a kick ;-) |
| 16:09.14 | Henryk | loocek: vlc is also available for windows |
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| 16:09.49 | loocek | aaa....I'll look on vlc, but there is no other way ? |
| 16:10.19 | Henryk | loocek: http, for example |
| 16:10.26 | blujay | loocek: we're talking about computers, there are always a million ways to do something :) |
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| 16:10.37 | loocek | :)) |
| 16:10.40 | blujay | loocek: have you googled for, say, lan video streaming? |
| 16:10.52 | loocek | blujay: no |
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| 16:11.45 | liable | streuner: you can see my web page at liable.mine.nu |
| 16:11.46 | Henryk | talking about million ways: is there at least one way to make the installation floppy (rescue.bin, is that right) stop using colors? My screen is only monochrome and prompts like "press < > for details" are _not_ helpful. |
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| 16:12.10 | blujay | Henryk: you're using a monochrome screen?? |
| 16:12.11 | dvs | ha! |
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| 16:12.26 | Henryk | blujay: yes. old box, old screen |
| 16:12.31 | blujay | Henryk: wow :) |
| 16:12.36 | dvs | Henryk: Does ctrl-F2 say anything? |
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| 16:12.41 | goron | Henryk: Are you a time traveller? |
| 16:13.01 | loocek | ok , thx for idea vlc :) |
| 16:13.10 | Henryk | but at least it's small enough to fit onto my shelf |
| 16:13.22 | dvs | Henryk: get an LCD. ;-) |
| 16:13.33 | streuner | --- liable.mine.nu ping statistics --- |
| 16:13.34 | streuner | 1 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet los |
| 16:13.35 | Henryk | i have one. On my laptop ;-) |
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| 16:14.12 | Henryk | ok, I'll try ctrl-f2 |
| 16:14.21 | dvs | Henryk: I mean Alt-F2 |
| 16:14.31 | liable | streuner: seems im drunk again, liable.home.nu :) |
| 16:14.43 | manchot | I have compile kernel and build many things I need into kernel-image, but debian still tries to load many modules it thinks necessary, |
| 16:14.54 | liable | streuner: its only the apache web page anyway :) |
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| 16:15.10 | manchot | my question is: how to prevent debian loading unnecessary modules? |
| 16:15.10 | dvs | manchot: Don't use initrd |
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| 16:15.31 | manchot | dvs: does it have anything to do with initrd? |
| 16:15.32 | streuner | liable: update the DNS entry |
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| 16:15.44 | streuner | liable: vi ddclient |
| 16:15.48 | streuner | liable: via ddclient |
| 16:15.48 | liable | streuner: couldnt see it? |
| 16:15.54 | dvs | manchot: initrd contains a lot of kernel modules |
| 16:15.59 | streuner | knusper:/home/user# ping -c1 liable.home.nu |
| 16:15.59 | streuner | pingouin: unknown host liable.home.nu |
| 16:16.16 | streuner | oobe: turn that script off |
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| 16:16.37 | FieldySnuts | streuner: he's been doing it for a while, tried to get op attention to no avail |
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| 16:16.51 | streuner | yeah |
| 16:16.55 | Henryk | no, alt-f2 doesn't do anything, of course. i'm still at the boot prompt. Oh well, I guess i might just try pressing return |
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| 16:17.10 | manchot | dvs: I mean is it related to discover or some config file which tells system to load modules while booting? |
| 16:17.10 | naphex | trying to setup cups on woody. enabling debug logging in cupsd.conf shows "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip: No such file or directory" in the error_log. I cant' find this file on debian stable any hint? |
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| 16:17.27 | liable | streuner: http://liable.home.nu works for me |
| 16:17.28 | streuner | bbiab |
| 16:17.33 | dvs | manchot: discover will try a lot of modules to determine which modules are needed |
| 16:17.37 | FieldySnuts | that host doesn't look up here either |
| 16:18.04 | FieldySnuts | getting it to look up on your network is one thing, on other networks is a different ballgame |
| 16:18.14 | liable | FieldySnuts: no apache standard page? |
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| 16:18.42 | FieldySnuts | liable: that's not even the issue, the host name doesn't even resolve to an IP |
| 16:18.55 | manchot | dvs: then how to disable this? and do I need to flush any config file and prevent debian from automatically loading modules? |
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| 16:19.11 | si|vercat | I don't remember who pointed me in the direction of trying to run memtest86+, but it turns out I have a bad memory module, which is likely to have caused my unstability problems.. |
| 16:19.12 | dvs | manchot: Uninstal discover for starters. |
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| 16:19.35 | si|vercat | I just wanted to say thanks :) |
| 16:19.48 | loukoum | where is the script launching the xserver and gdm at debian's boot ? |
| 16:19.56 | kbrooks | xdm |
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| 16:20.04 | liable | now try |
| 16:20.07 | manchot | dvs: I don't have discover running as a service, so I think there is no need to uninstall it, right? |
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| 16:20.24 | kbrooks | loukoum, am i lying? no. /etc/init.d/gdm |
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| 16:20.42 | dvs | manchot: discover runs at boot time I do believe. |
| 16:20.42 | liable | streuner: try now |
| 16:20.43 | loukoum | thanks kbrooks |
| 16:21.08 | kbrooks | loukoum, /etc/init.d/xdm is what does the "work" |
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| 16:21.26 | kbrooks | but it launches gdm directly |
| 16:21.28 | kbrooks | IIRC |
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| 16:22.46 | loukoum | kbrooks : when the xserver starts I see first kde launching then gdm, then gnome . how can I get rid of the kde step ? |
| 16:23.13 | dvs | loukoum: Get gdm? |
| 16:23.56 | Rhaki | Rhaki |
| 16:24.09 | Rhaki | Rhaki |
| 16:24.22 | Ronin | yes we see you Rhaki |
| 16:24.30 | loukoum | dvs: yes gdm and gnome are working good but at bootime x starts with kde (i only see the splash screen) then opens gdm ... |
| 16:24.38 | liable | FieldySnuts: can you resolve it now? |
| 16:24.46 | dvs | loukoum: I don't have I have that setup |
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| 16:25.57 | BrianHV | I installed udev, and now xterms won't open because I have no /dev/tty... how does one fix this? |
| 16:25.57 | si|vercat | my ram-module fails in test 5 of memtest86+, anyone know what that means? |
| 16:25.57 | dvs | BrianHV: Compile that support into your kernel. |
| 16:26.03 | dvs | si|vercat: you hae bad ram |
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| 16:26.56 | BrianHV | dvs: support for... hotplugging tty? |
| 16:27.00 | Henryk | hmm, can't I use ext3 on my root filesystem? The installer wants to use ext2 |
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| 16:27.21 | riot | Henryk: you can make it ext3 later on |
| 16:27.22 | dvs | BrianHV: tty in general (not necessarily hot plugging) |
| 16:27.40 | Henryk | ok |
| 16:27.59 | BrianHV | dvs: xterm works if udev isn't mounted. doesn't that imply that tty is in the kernel? |
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| 16:28.48 | riot | Henryk: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm |
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| 16:28.55 | dvs | BrianHV: No. With udev, entries appear in the /dev directory only if the proper support is in the kernel or loaded in a module |
| 16:29.16 | Henryk | riot: bookmarked, thanks |
| 16:29.28 | liable | streuner: /me hangs his head in drunken shameness liable.mine.nu |
| 16:30.17 | BrianHV | dvs: any idea what said module would be? nothing matching "TTY" seems right |
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| 16:31.22 | Twisted_Emotions | I dont know who it was but someone recommended Firestarter to me to help setup my Firewall. Wondering does firestarter require a GUI (XServer) ? |
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| 16:31.35 | dvs | BrianHV: Look for "console" |
| 16:31.35 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: yes |
| 16:31.36 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: yup |
| 16:31.45 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: you wanted something simple, so I figured you were using a GUI :) |
| 16:31.57 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: if not, you might look into shorewall |
| 16:32.00 | BrianHV | dvs: all those are on except for NETCONSOLE |
| 16:32.07 | Twisted_Emotions | hehe blujay it was you ... |
| 16:32.16 | Twisted_Emotions | kk shorewall it is then |
| 16:32.17 | ParaSiteX | i have a pentium M on my notebook. is the i386 release the right one for me? |
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| 16:32.54 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | hello |
| 16:33.04 | blujay | hello |
| 16:33.10 | Twisted_Emotions | DAMN.. this apt-get update shit is taking YEEARRRS |
| 16:33.20 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: the download or the installation? |
| 16:33.20 | liable | ParaSiteX: yes |
| 16:33.23 | vitriol | how do you block a package from being installed from one place listed in sources.list permanently? |
| 16:33.31 | ParaSiteX | liable thank you |
| 16:33.37 | cahoot | BrianHV: this might help: http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html#consnull |
| 16:33.40 | Twisted_Emotions | bluejay: download was quick... just freaking install.. |
| 16:33.40 | vitriol | e.g. i want to install enlightenment from one but not the other |
| 16:33.45 | liable | ParaSiteX: np |
| 16:33.46 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | i forgot my passwords, there a file i can delete? or an easy fix aside from reinstalling? |
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| 16:33.55 | FieldySnuts | @hack SPEEDing|V\oNK |
| 16:34.03 | blujay | SPEEDing|V\oNK: do you know the root password? |
| 16:34.06 | FieldySnuts | he was here asking about this before, it was suspected he was breaking into systems. |
| 16:34.11 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: download was quick just install is slow. |
| 16:34.13 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | nope |
| 16:34.18 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: ah |
| 16:34.34 | Henryk | SPEEDing|V\oNK: boot with init=/bin/sh, remount the root fs readwrite and set a new password |
| 16:34.44 | Twisted_Emotions | should have ran screen before running apt-get... and least i could do isht in background. |
| 16:34.45 | liable | FieldySnuts: can you try liable.mine.nu |
| 16:34.48 | cahoot | FieldySnuts: some cracker asking for that kind of help |
| 16:34.53 | BrianHV | cahoot: that's interesting, but I don't think that's the problem. those devices exist prior to udev mounting, and this error occurs after udev has started |
| 16:35.15 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: Ctrl+F2? |
| 16:35.17 | FieldySnuts | liable: still doesn't resolve to an IP |
| 16:35.27 | SPEEDing|V\oNK | ok thx Henryk |
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| 16:35.31 | liable | FieldySnuts: aww |
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| 16:35.45 | FieldySnuts | dns changes need time to propogate, dependant on the TTL |
| 16:35.54 | liable | ok |
| 16:36.20 | liable | FieldySnuts: ive been connected for ages but |
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| 16:37.13 | Xenguy | Twisted_Emotions: Alt-F2, or Ctrl-Alt-F2 |
| 16:37.37 | Xenguy | Twisted_Emotions: (depending on whether you are in X or not) |
| 16:37.53 | resiak | !nickometer SPEEDing|V\oNK |
| 16:37.53 | dpkg | 'SPEEDing|V\oNK' is 99.890% lame, resiak |
| 16:37.54 | blujay | Xenguy: oops, heh...I always use Ctrl+Alt |
| 16:37.55 | onre | wtf, xmms virt size 54MB?! is this normal? |
| 16:37.56 | resiak | Hahah. |
| 16:38.15 | Xenguy | blujay: that should work anyway :-) |
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| 16:38.26 | blujay | Xenguy: ah, ok...I spend most of my time in X |
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| 16:38.59 | Henryk | onre: yes, i sometimes have even more |
| 16:39.26 | liable | FieldySnuts: now try, I shamefully admit to using guarddog to configure my firewall, and now its off |
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| 16:39.57 | streuner | liable: that's NOT the problem |
| 16:40.17 | streuner | liable: the problem is DNS isn't resolved correctly |
| 16:40.27 | streuner | liable: check out the man-page of ddclient again |
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| 16:41.27 | liable | streuner: ok |
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| 16:42.55 | Twisted_Emotions | Anyone have the IPTable for a virtual private system setup already... Im not liking shoreline. |
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| 16:43.09 | Twisted_Emotions | something that they Putty into.. |
| 16:43.18 | resiak | Twisted_Emotions: ...you just allow port 22 |
| 16:43.25 | resiak | Twisted_Emotions: (I presume.) |
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| 16:43.52 | Twisted_Emotions | resiak: okay... let me look @ my iptables file seee whats there now. |
| 16:44.05 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: no offense, just something to consider...sometimes I find that I spend more time trying to find a way around something than it would take to simply read the docs and learn how to do it myself :) |
| 16:44.29 | resiak | Twisted_Emotions: I'm not going to do the hand-holding, not least because I'm not particularly used to iptables. blujay is right: the manuals are there for a reason, and you'll understand a lot more, faster, if you read them. |
| 16:44.56 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: all good. Just wondering if someone had a template to start off with... all I use this machine for if uploading torrents so it should be hard to setup firewall. |
| 16:45.14 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: well, what about the base iptables config? |
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| 16:45.47 | kbrooks | what? :O |
| 16:45.49 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: didnt know it there was a base config... wana tell me where it is on my comp? |
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| 16:46.08 | Twisted_Emotions | nano /ect/firewall or some isht like that right? |
| 16:46.18 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: uh.../etc/iptables.conf? something like that? /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian? :) |
| 16:46.21 | kbrooks | bob2, what did that ip you ban do, if i may ask? |
| 16:46.29 | kbrooks | banned* |
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| 16:46.48 | dvs | what that the gnaa goof? |
| 16:46.57 | streuner | yep |
| 16:47.00 | dvs | OK |
| 16:47.02 | bob2 | kbrooks: gnaa spam an hour ago |
| 16:47.07 | streuner | he's already k-lined |
| 16:47.11 | kbrooks | oic |
| 16:47.23 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: iptables comes with Debian by default, AFAIK...at least, Sarge and up. So there should be a base config file to go from. |
| 16:47.28 | liable | streuner: now ? |
| 16:47.30 | bob2 | ah |
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| 16:47.47 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: that's the nice thing about Debian, you don't have to do everything from scratch, by hand |
| 16:47.57 | streuner | liable: start ddclient to update the DNS entry? |
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| 16:48.17 | Twisted_Emotions | 138238:/etc# find iptables |
| 16:48.17 | Twisted_Emotions | find: iptables: No such file or directory |
| 16:48.29 | Twisted_Emotions | Id doesnt check the whole computer? Only that director? |
| 16:48.33 | Twisted_Emotions | *it |
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| 16:48.37 | kbrooks | damn gnaa |
| 16:48.38 | Twisted_Emotions | *directory |
| 16:48.49 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: find --help :) |
| 16:48.51 | kbrooks | Twisted_Emotions, find / -name iptables |
| 16:48.54 | liable | streuner: fucked if I know what i'm doing wrong, its even set to update at the rediculous rate of every 5 secs |
| 16:48.57 | Henryk | or locate iptables |
| 16:49.10 | Twisted_Emotions | kk thanks |
| 16:49.41 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: seriously.../usr/share/doc/iptables |
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| 16:50.18 | Twisted_Emotions | bluejay: lol.. the search that I just ran found that file... /usr/share/doc/iptables |
| 16:50.24 | Twisted_Emotions | thats the manual? |
| 16:50.24 | karsten | blujay: What's the question? |
| 16:50.31 | Twisted_Emotions | ill read it |
| 16:50.39 | karsten | Twisted_Emotions: Trying to set up a firewall? |
| 16:50.39 | blujay | karsten: what? |
| 16:50.39 | kbrooks | Twisted_Emotions, basically, find /path -test stuff action |
| 16:51.10 | blujay | karsten: he doesn't want Firestarter or shorewall, and is reticent to read the docs :) |
| 16:51.11 | qpee | hi how should i mount a usb stick connected to a usb-hub? i mounted it using `mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb`. the problem: it's sooo slow. i need 10 minutes for a mb to be transfered. what i guess is i need to define a filessystem type (-t), but i honestly don't know which one |
| 16:51.11 | streuner | liable: dpkg-reconfigure ddclient |
| 16:51.23 | qpee | could someone tell be which fs to mount? |
| 16:51.26 | liable | streuner: thats what ive been doing |
| 16:51.33 | blujay | qpee: vfat |
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| 16:51.44 | karsten | blujay: Dig. I was going to recommend shorewall ;-) |
| 16:51.50 | liable | streuner: dunno obviously im fucking up somewhere |
| 16:52.04 | Henryk | qpee: shouldn't have anything to do with the filesytem. Maybe look into the kernel logs |
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| 16:52.21 | karsten | qpee: The filesystem is automatically detected, and it's usually vfat for preformatted USB sticks. |
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| 16:52.54 | kbrooks | Twisted_Emotions, so, for example, to find all the files in ~ that are owned by you, find ~ -user kyle -print |
| 16:53.08 | Mithsir | hi |
| 16:53.17 | kbrooks | Mithsir, need help? |
| 16:53.23 | kbrooks | Mithsir, |
| 16:53.28 | kbrooks | !repeat |
| 16:53.28 | dpkg | repeat is probably if nobody answers your question, don't just repeat it. Spamming the channel and getting ignored/banned/silenced isn't going to get a faster answer; spamming is a function of time. More likely, nobody knows the answer (/msg dpkg ask), or you need to provide more information (/msg apt sicco), or ask about "smart questions" |
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| 16:53.54 | qpee | karsten, Henryk: for what would i need to look |
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| 16:53.56 | blujay | !humor |
| 16:54.00 | blujay | awww, no entry |
| 16:54.12 | dvs | There is no humor here |
| 16:54.21 | blujay | !falsehood |
| 16:54.24 | blujay | aww, no entry |
| 16:54.24 | elirips | hello. i am having troubles connecting to my isp via modem: i use pon to connect. the modem dials the number, i hear the usual "noise", but then after somethign around 15 seconds the connection closes again. can someone help me what to do about that? |
| 16:54.35 | kbrooks | blujay, stop it |
| 16:54.40 | dvs | ...and we're always right ;-) |
| 16:54.42 | raf256 | how can I start up own IRC server |
| 16:54.43 | Mithsir | well, yes |
| 16:54.52 | blujay | kbrooks: what, does it hurt the bot somehow? :) |
| 16:54.55 | Mithsir | I'm trying to put my webserver in a uml. |
| 16:54.55 | raf256 | ...as in - with is best for small, secure server |
| 16:55.02 | dvs | elirips: I bet you have no chatscript |
| 16:55.03 | raf256 | (private, not exchanging feed with other servers) |
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| 16:55.05 | karsten | qpee: Sorry? Not understanding. |
| 16:55.05 | kbrooks | raf256, how? HOW!!!!!! usse google |
| 16:55.15 | elirips | dvs: i have edited the chatscript file |
| 16:55.19 | raf256 | dpkg: irc server |
| 16:55.20 | karsten | elirips: Sounds like your authentication isn't right. |
| 16:55.30 | Mithsir | uml network seems to work, I can see the outside world. but I cannot contact the uml server from anywhere (e.g. apache on the uml)... |
| 16:55.37 | dvs | elirips: Have you tried connecting using minicom and see what's coming back? |
| 16:55.37 | Henryk | qpee: don't know. Anything that looks strange. You know, the "error: will blow up in 5 seconds" sort of strange |
| 16:55.41 | petemc | raf256: install an ircd, read its docs, configure it |
| 16:55.42 | karsten | elirips: One option is to get minicom up and try logging in manually through that, looking at error messages if any. |
| 16:55.44 | qpee | karsten: Henryk has stated i should look into the kernel-log. currently i don't know what to look for |
| 16:55.47 | kbrooks | raf256, google is the universal area |
| 16:56.15 | qpee | karsten: fact is i don't know why the data 20mb take 15 minutes |
| 16:56.17 | raf256 | I have problem with prelinking - it keeps reporintngh "could not found one of libraries" |
| 16:56.27 | karsten | qpee: ...um, for what. Sorry, I'm bridging channels. USB-related stuff. 'dmesg' output as well. Tailing logs can be useful (tail -40f <logfile>) and watch what happens. |
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| 16:56.42 | qpee | karsten: i mean to be transfered |
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| 16:57.04 | qpee | Henryk: funny thing is, i can't define `strange`. |
| 16:57.18 | karsten | qpee: Yeah, it sounds pretty slow. |
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| 16:57.30 | karsten | qpee: Possibly an IRQ conflict. |
| 16:57.31 | elirips | karsten: last thing i see in plog is 'You are on node Freesurf pop-zh-15^1^M^M, then a '^M^M', then 'alarm', then 'Failed', then 'Connect Script failed'. does that say anything to you? |
| 16:57.38 | karsten | qpee: ...but that's just a wild-ass guess. |
| 16:57.42 | pepsi | I have written alias ls="ls --color=auto" in my ~/.bashrc but the colors does not show. They do when I type "source .bashrc". What might be wrong? :/ |
| 16:57.58 | kbrooks | pepsi, nothing |
| 16:58.02 | karsten | elirips: Supports my prior statement. Your connect script is failing. That's your authentication. |
| 16:58.03 | dvs | elirips: Use minicom. |
| 16:58.07 | doub | pepsi: a matter of login/non login shells maybe |
| 16:58.15 | kbrooks | pepsi, everything in debian is manual |
| 16:58.21 | karsten | elirips: Confirm with your ISP's connection instructions that you're specifying username/password correctly. |
| 16:58.25 | karsten | elirips: Also, what ISP? |
| 16:58.26 | kbrooks | doub: ..... |
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| 16:58.50 | doub | kbrooks: yes? |
| 16:58.56 | pepsi | doub: so I should put it in another file maby? |
| 16:58.59 | karsten | elirips: There's a number of freebie ISPs (bluelight is one) which don't use straight PPP, but instead set up a Windows-based VPN. |
| 16:59.05 | kbrooks | doub: nothing is wrong |
| 16:59.10 | elirips | karsten: isp is 'freesurf', and i know i have the right password, as it works in windows. its a free provider, telling on his homepage that the username/pw is sunrse/freesurf |
| 16:59.12 | Twisted_Emotions | Can I install a GUI even when I putty into the machine? |
| 16:59.13 | qpee | karsten: irq, so basically what you are saying is, that i should try to directly connect the stick to the pc, not using the hub-connection |
| 16:59.20 | doub | pepsi: probably ~/.profile |
| 16:59.23 | kbrooks | pepsi, NOTHING NOTHING IS WRONG |
| 16:59.25 | daffy-pkf | how can i write a test that make me know if a program named 'foo' is already running? |
| 16:59.26 | karsten | qpee: No. |
| 16:59.28 | kbrooks | doub: dude |
| 16:59.29 | pepsi | doub: thx |
| 16:59.36 | daffy-pkf | in a shell script |
| 16:59.43 | karsten | qpee: The hub won't make a difference. And I've got no idea that that's the problem. |
| 16:59.50 | overnout | daffy-pkf: ps -e | grep foo |
| 16:59.52 | kbrooks | pepsi, doub is wrong. |
| 16:59.52 | qpee | karsten: ok |
| 16:59.58 | Henryk | qpee: might help, might not. Do you have any other hardware on that hub? like speakers, network device, etc.? |
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| 17:00.14 | doub | kbrooks: i must say something is wrong in here. there's someone trolling around a bit. so, i disagree |
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| 17:00.17 | pepsi | kbrooks: but could you please explain to me how I activate colors in ls :) |
| 17:00.24 | karsten | qpee: Try: reseating all connections. Disconnecting hub. Disconnecting stick. Run 'tail -40f /var/log/syslog' in a terminal. Then reconnect hub and stick. See if you get any interesting messages. |
| 17:00.25 | daffy-pkf | overnout> thanks |
| 17:00.26 | elirips | karsten: it is a free isp, can that cause troubles? |
| 17:00.37 | kbrooks | doub: fuck you. |
| 17:00.37 | karsten | elirips: Could |
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| 17:00.43 | karsten | kbrooks: Inappropriate. |
| 17:00.52 | qpee | Henryk: a printer |
| 17:01.15 | karsten | qpee: Your IRQ assingment would be to the USB bus itself, not the hub. |
| 17:01.26 | qpee | i understand |
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| 17:01.45 | Henryk | ok, that shouldn't make a difference. But please, go forward and try without the hub, there are funky stories out there about hubs. Might also be a defective cable, etc. |
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| 17:02.18 | qpee | Henryk: i will give it a try |
| 17:02.40 | LordFrith | I am quite annoyed with my local debian mirror. |
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| 17:02.52 | LordFrith | Just a rant. Not a request for assistance. |
| 17:02.53 | cinix | pepsi, get those colors to work yet? |
| 17:02.55 | Twisted_Emotions | Anyone want to tell me how to figure out what version of server I should install on my system? |
| 17:03.25 | jetdotnet | woody would be a waste of time imo ymmv |
| 17:03.34 | pepsi | cinix: nope :/ they work on my gentoo-box.. cant figure out whats making it work though |
| 17:04.10 | Twisted_Emotions | Anyone? |
| 17:05.00 | LordFrith | Twisted_Emotions: Use unstable. |
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| 17:05.15 | jetdotnet | no, experimental! |
| 17:05.21 | cinix | pepsi, is this in an xterm? console? |
| 17:05.22 | Twisted_Emotions | LordFrith: ?xserver-xfree86 - the XFree86 X server |
| 17:05.27 | blujay | no, use unthoughtof! |
| 17:05.28 | Twisted_Emotions | That one? |
| 17:05.30 | jetdotnet | ah... |
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| 17:05.35 | pepsi | cinix: aterm / bash |
| 17:05.42 | jetdotnet | apt-get install x-window-system |
| 17:05.58 | amorphix | Twisted_Emotions: wow i was just about to ask what the command is to reconfigure X and you typed it |
| 17:06.12 | jetdotnet | !drxx |
| 17:06.13 | dpkg | hmm... drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
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| 17:06.16 | cinix | and when you type alias it doesn't show ls, like it hasn't loaded .bashrc? |
| 17:06.36 | pepsi | cinix: alias gives me nothing at all :/ |
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| 17:06.40 | cinix | I'd say open aterm and type echo $SHELL make sure your really loading bash |
| 17:06.52 | Twisted_Emotions | amorphix: glad I could help ;) Weeeeee.. |
| 17:07.08 | benningo | Hello is there a way I can install mozilla-firefox so It just gets the dependencies it needs? |
| 17:07.10 | pepsi | cinix: that gives me /bin/bash :) |
| 17:07.11 | chump | Hi all, Im going to buy a flat screen. Will I just be able to plug and play on my sarge system? |
| 17:07.18 | cinix | damn :) |
| 17:07.25 | simonrvn | benningo: apt-get |
| 17:07.34 | Twisted_Emotions | Okay... How do I figure out that windows system I need? |
| 17:07.57 | pepsi | cinix: hmm.. when I type bash in the shell (start another bash) the colors show :] |
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| 17:08.16 | pepsi | cinix: but not when I execute aterm |
| 17:08.21 | chump | Is there a list of compatable flat screens? |
| 17:08.24 | doub | Twisted_Emotions: by trying, and see the one that fits your needs maybe |
| 17:08.25 | benningo | Still winging about dependencies |
| 17:08.47 | cinix | that's odd. i wonder if I'll see the same thing if I install aterm |
| 17:08.53 | doub | Twisted_Emotions: just like when you want to buy a car, or the like |
| 17:09.00 | valdyn | chump: maybe, I would however run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" before using X w/ it and adjust the display settings |
| 17:09.07 | simonrvn | benningo: sarge? |
| 17:09.11 | Twisted_Emotions | doub: All the different versions are for different chipsets and shit right? So how do I know what chipset I use? |
| 17:09.13 | cinix | hmm nope works good for me |
| 17:09.16 | pepsi | cinix: It's probably my files that are screwed up.. I'll check them all again and come back later.. thx |
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| 17:09.34 | simonrvn | benningo: /msg dpkg paste . let,s see what's going on |
| 17:09.37 | chump | valdyn will this set up my xconfg for me? |
| 17:09.42 | benningo | When I apt-get -f install mozilla-firefox, how can I get it to automatically install all it needs? |
| 17:09.47 | doub | Twisted_Emotions: what do you want to do ? |
| 17:09.56 | valdyn | chump: yes |
| 17:10.04 | simonrvn | benningo: apt-get -f install . the -f is to fix things |
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| 17:10.17 | simonrvn | benningo: man apt-get |
| 17:10.18 | Twisted_Emotions | doub: Just run a GUI where I can run firefox, azurues, and that firewall program. |
| 17:10.34 | chump | valdyn are most flat screens on the market supported? |
| 17:10.54 | valdyn | chump: linux doesnt need to support it, your gfx card has to |
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| 17:11.10 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: have you thought about just using the netinst ISO? Makes it easy...installs X and etc. easily |
| 17:11.12 | chump | I see thanks |
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| 17:11.33 | doub | Twisted_Emotions: just do as i told you. i tend to like xfce for high-end machines, fluxbox for low end ones. but YMMV |
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| 17:11.57 | Henryk | icewm is the only real window manager! ;-) |
| 17:12.12 | jetdotnet | icewm rox |
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| 17:12.16 | doub | !start a window manager war |
| 17:12.16 | dpkg | twm blows! |
| 17:12.20 | jetdotnet | oters are cool |
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| 17:12.32 | jetdotnet | s/oters/others/ |
| 17:12.44 | Eclipser | dpkg, that's not a wmanager war start, that's just stating the truth :p |
| 17:12.53 | Twisted_Emotions | bluejay: No... but easy sounds great. How would I go about doing all that? |
| 17:12.55 | jetdotnet | i'd like twm if i could figure out how to not have to hold the mouse button |
| 17:12.59 | benningo | How can I get out of a query with someone in bitchx? |
| 17:13.10 | jetdotnet | Twisted_Emotions: just run tasksel |
| 17:13.16 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: No... but easy sounds great. How would I go about doing all that? |
| 17:13.17 | jetdotnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:13.21 | Twisted_Emotions | kk |
| 17:13.28 | blujay | !d-i Twisted_Emotions :) |
| 17:13.29 | dpkg | Twisted_Emotions :), you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 17:13.33 | jetdotnet | or /msg perhaps |
| 17:13.48 | jetdotnet | oh, i thought he had it installed |
| 17:13.56 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: get the netinst ISO, use it to install Debian, pick your packages with dselect (like Firefox, etc.), and then wait while it installs |
| 17:13.57 | doub | jetdotnet: so do i |
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| 17:14.04 | blujay | jetdotnet: he does |
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| 17:14.19 | blujay | jetdotnet: but he's messed with it a lot, I think...might be easier to just start over, cleaner, etc. |
| 17:14.21 | simonrvn | benningo: please don't /msg me. keep to the channel |
| 17:14.48 | benningo | cannot get out a query I started with you ;-) sorry |
| 17:14.56 | jetdotnet | or use dselect and hit the _ on all the optional ones |
| 17:15.06 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: Everything is a brand new install. |
| 17:15.15 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: how did you install Debian? |
| 17:15.19 | doub | !start an apt frontend war |
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| 17:15.28 | doub | seems like this one doesn't exist |
| 17:15.55 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: It's a VPS... just called tech guys and told them to reintstall... apt-cache search netinst |
| 17:16.01 | Twisted_Emotions | didnt give me anything. |
| 17:16.22 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: ...wait...you're running on a virtual server at a colo? |
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| 17:16.32 | Twisted_Emotions | colo? |
| 17:16.39 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: colocation facility...server farm...etc |
| 17:16.46 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: yes. |
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| 17:16.56 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: so...the purpose of the server is...? |
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| 17:17.19 | doub | blujay: i bet on web hosting |
| 17:17.28 | blujay | doub: yeah... |
| 17:17.31 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: To allow me to serve using azueus.. |
| 17:17.36 | blujay | ah |
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| 17:17.53 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: so you want to run X on a VPS over the Internet? |
| 17:18.10 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: bad idea? |
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| 17:18.22 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: well, I've never tried it myself, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was quite sluggish to use |
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| 17:18.35 | Twisted_Emotions | greeeat. |
| 17:18.51 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: being a VPS, its memory availability could probably vary a lot, along with CPU power...and running X over the 'net... |
| 17:18.58 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: maybe if you used nx or something instead of plain X... |
| 17:19.04 | De_Mon_ | grr, how do I get du to ignore symbolic links that point to another file system? -x doesn't appear to be working |
| 17:19.05 | Ronin | Twisted_Emotions: your colo folks know your using them as an azueus server? they mayhave problems with that |
| 17:19.05 | Henryk | yeah, bad idea. X is slow even when used through a wifi network. You'd be better off with either vnc or (free)nx |
| 17:19.09 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: no harm in trying, I suppose |
| 17:19.10 | elirips_ | karsten: now that i have minicom installed, how can i use that to find the problem when i try to dial in? |
| 17:19.31 | Twisted_Emotions | Okay... well I figured id install x just so i could get freaking firewall up. |
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| 17:19.43 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: btw, Azureus is simply the client, what you're talking about is running a BitTorrent tracker, I think |
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| 17:20.06 | Twisted_Emotions | bluejay: no just uploading torrents.. not a tracker.. |
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| 17:20.19 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: ...so you are going to use it as a seeder? |
| 17:20.29 | doub | Henryk: never tried over wifi, but vnc seems even slower by design than plain X |
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| 17:20.49 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: yeah... not that I think about it... why am I bothering.. just going to use bittorent. |
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| 17:20.59 | Twisted_Emotions | *now that I think about it.. |
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| 17:21.07 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: how fast is your Internet connection? seems strange to pay to run a VPS to seed files |
| 17:21.23 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: what kind of files are you going to seed, btw? |
| 17:21.24 | Twisted_Emotions | and screw a firewall... if it gets hacked again then I have them reinstall again. |
| 17:21.25 | doub | Henryk: unless you only do graphical stuff, in which case it won't be much different |
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| 17:21.41 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: it was cracked into before? |
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| 17:21.51 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: 10Mbit+ line... like 1.2-2.0Mbit/sec.... |
| 17:22.04 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: so your personal connection is 2Mb/sec? |
| 17:22.29 | Twisted_Emotions | bluejay: well I did a port scan on the server and it had like 10000 ports open and I dont think it started like that soo... |
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| 17:22.48 | Henryk | doub: ok, I guess that depends much on the application. I had bad experiences in the past with a tool that constantly redrew every button on the screen. That was a major pita to use with X but pretty ok with VNC |
| 17:23.00 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: maybe you should start from the beginning... |
| 17:23.15 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: at home I have 3mbit down like 512k upload... with VPS I have 10+Mbit connection for upload and download. |
| 17:23.27 | puskas | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.36 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: what kind of files are you going to seed? what about going over your bandwidth limit? |
| 17:24.00 | anhi | i love those guys who rent a box to seed and think cos of that they can't be caught by the police :D |
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| 17:24.13 | Twisted_Emotions | bluejay: lol... no limit really... free line. and movies. |
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| 17:24.31 | Twisted_Emotions | anhi: not doing it to avoid cops... just uploading cause I can. |
| 17:24.36 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: movies? man...you realize that your colo will probably kick you off as soon as they find that out |
| 17:24.44 | Henryk | anhi: ehm. seeding files is not illegal by definition |
| 17:25.01 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: maybe... been doing it for like 3 weeks.. no one said anything yet so... |
| 17:25.02 | blujay | Henryk: yeah, but copyrighted movies... |
| 17:25.09 | anhi | Henryk: well, lets just assume he does it to clean up his ratio at some site |
| 17:25.17 | Twisted_Emotions | !!! not copyrighted. thats illegal.. |
| 17:25.18 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: google.com/search?q=mpaa+bittorrent :) |
| 17:25.20 | elirips_ | hello. if i connect to my isp via 'pon', my modem dials the number, but after around 15secs it closes the connection again. if i use minicom and do a 'ATDT0840555555' there, minicom asks me for password and username. minicom then stays connected instead of pon, any ideas whats wrong with pon? |
| 17:25.21 | doub | Henryk: that's a poorly written app, in this case. not X's fault. the main difference between vnc and X is that vnc sends screenshots over the wire, while X only sends window drawing data (as in, put button at position x,y with label "label"), which is much smaller bandwith wise |
| 17:25.31 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: what kind of movies are you seeding? |
| 17:25.36 | anhi | i know about ~10 ppl who have dedicated seed boxes in europe with full ripe entries :D |
| 17:25.40 | kanzure | Where are passwords stored? /etc/shadow/ ? |
| 17:25.51 | Henryk | doub: I know that it's bad written, but I had to use it. |
| 17:25.54 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: just kidding... ;) |
| 17:26.20 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: so...you've confused me |
| 17:26.30 | scarynetworkguy | Henryk: No. No illegal by defination but most colos will tell you to go the fuck away. Just because they don't need that kind of pain in their lives. |
| 17:26.45 | doub | kanzure: if shadow passwords are enabled, yes |
| 17:26.52 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: lol... dude.. copyrighted movies. |
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| 17:27.01 | kanzure | doub: They are not. |
| 17:27.03 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: so you ARE seeding copyrighted movies? |
| 17:27.07 | Twisted_Emotions | yes |
| 17:27.14 | doub | kanzure: /etc/passwd then |
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| 17:27.25 | Ikarus | blujay: in most countries everything is copyrighted by default |
| 17:27.28 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: haha...well, I wouldn't expect your server to be up long |
| 17:27.29 | doub | kanzure: but they are not stored plain text |
| 17:27.38 | blujay | Ikarus: I know, but I'm referring to commercial, theatre-type movies |
| 17:27.40 | Ikarus | blujay: so if I where to seed Debian iso's I would be seeding copyrighted material |
| 17:27.46 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: I agree... but its been 3 weeks... |
| 17:27.58 | kanzure | doub: Yes, I know. I want to find the "md5()ed" versions. (or whatever encryption scheme is used) |
| 17:28.17 | scarynetworkguy | Ikarus: But it would be copyrighted material that you *have* a right to disrubte. |
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| 17:28.35 | Twisted_Emotions | apt-cache search torrent isnt giving me shit.. does debian not have a package with bottorrent? |
| 17:28.40 | doub | kanzure: /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow, see "man 5 passwd" for format, and (maybe) man 5 shadow |
| 17:28.44 | Ikarus | scarynetworkguy: yep, so a correct term would be non-permitted distribution of copyrighted materials |
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| 17:28.54 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: what version of Debian did your guys put on there? |
| 17:28.56 | Henryk | Twisted_Emotions: I guess you're looking for bittornado |
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| 17:29.20 | scarynetworkguy | Ikarus: Which is a real PITA when *everybody* in the convo knows what was meant. |
| 17:29.20 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: dont know.. |
| 17:29.32 | Ikarus | scarynetworkguy: I wasn't sure |
| 17:29.34 | De_Mon_ | bottorrent cute |
| 17:29.34 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: before you do anything else, find that out |
| 17:29.43 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: sarge? |
| 17:29.47 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: are you sure? |
| 17:29.55 | Ikarus | scarynetworkguy: I work on some freely distributed movies (documentaries), which are also torrented |
| 17:29.56 | scarynetworkguy | Ikarus: Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you weren't. |
| 17:29.58 | Twisted_Emotions | blujat: no |
| 17:30.09 | De_Mon_ | Ikarus any worth watching? |
| 17:30.10 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: find out for sure :) |
| 17:30.11 | Ikarus | scarynetworkguy: so I was hoping for the best |
| 17:30.16 | Ikarus | De_Mon_: not really :) |
| 17:30.22 | kanzure | doub: /etc/passwd doesn't have the passwords / encrypted versions. /etc/shadow/ doesn't exist. |
| 17:30.23 | scarynetworkguy | Ikarus: But were you expecting it? |
| 17:30.28 | Ikarus | scarynetworkguy: not entirely |
| 17:30.40 | doub | kanzure: /etc/shadow is a file, not a directory |
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| 17:30.54 | scarynetworkguy | Ikarus: s/entirely/at all. And I'll think you're telling the truth. :P |
| 17:31.05 | De_Mon | doub that fact will not make it exist any sooner |
| 17:31.09 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: actually yeah im sure... i asked tech he said sarge |
| 17:31.15 | Henryk | kanzure: then there's still the possibility of using nis. try ypcat passwd |
| 17:31.24 | kanzure | doub: Yes, yes it is. Thanks. ;) |
| 17:31.28 | De_Mon | oh he had a / on the end, nevermind.. |
| 17:31.29 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: dont know what version but when I asked what kind of debian he said sarge. |
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| 17:31.38 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: check /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 17:31.51 | Ikarus | De_Mon: currently the only stuff out where a few 5 minute tests |
| 17:32.10 | De_Mon | hrmph |
| 17:32.21 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: what am I looking for? #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 17:32.31 | Twisted_Emotions | there are like 4 more.. |
| 17:32.36 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: what are the others? |
| 17:32.49 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: pm them to me |
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| 17:33.42 | Twisted_Emotions | bluejay: U get that? |
| 17:33.44 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: well, he lied to you, that's not sarge, it's woody. sarge is not stable yet. |
| 17:33.57 | Twisted_Emotions | dammit! |
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| 17:34.03 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: that could explain many of your problems |
| 17:34.53 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: either get him to reinstall, or change "stable" to "sarge" or "testing" as you prefer, and then do an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade...but a fresh install of sarge is probably a better idea |
| 17:34.59 | Twisted_Emotions | bluejay... so change all the mains to sarge and run that apt-get install aptitude |
| 17:35.01 | wintix | how can i display the size of only one folder? |
| 17:35.10 | Twisted_Emotions | pl.. |
| 17:35.14 | Henryk | wintix: du -sh foldername |
| 17:35.24 | jharrison | fresh install of sarge! |
| 17:35.26 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: kk thanks |
| 17:35.40 | Henryk | "Congratulations, you have successfully installed Debian!" yeah |
| 17:35.41 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: is the server in Germany? |
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| 17:35.53 | Twisted_Emotions | no. |
| 17:35.59 | Twisted_Emotions | US Chicago |
| 17:36.06 | wintix | Henryk: thx.. so easy but had no idea :) |
| 17:36.14 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: kind of dumb to have it download everything from Germany then, eh? |
| 17:36.25 | jharrison | US Chicago? |
| 17:36.33 | jharrison | I woudlnt want my server in the US |
| 17:36.36 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: freenet.de as the mirror for a server in Chicago, sheesh |
| 17:36.41 | jharrison | put it offshore somewhere |
| 17:36.50 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: Which should I change? |
| 17:37.09 | shining | why /usr/sbin/dovecot works but not /etc/init.d/dovecot start ? |
| 17:37.34 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: if I were you, I would ...ok, well, first I would drop the idea of seeding movies, but anyway...I'd get a different host...those guys don't know what they are doing, or don't know Debian AT ALL, and they are plain dumb for selecting a German mirror and commenting out the US mirrors for a server in CHICAGO! sheesh |
| 17:38.49 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: I see no links to germany in here... U sure u read the file right? |
| 17:38.53 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: anyway...uncomment the http.us line and change "stable" to "sarge" or "testing"...and comment out the freenet.de line |
| 17:39.03 | Twisted_Emotions | deb http://ftp.freenet.de/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 17:39.08 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: " deb http://ftp.freenet.de/debian"... |
| 17:39.08 | Twisted_Emotions | ohhh |
| 17:39.09 | Twisted_Emotions | kk |
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| 17:39.14 | laurens_ | Hiya :-) |
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| 17:39.19 | amorphix | hi guys |
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| 17:39.21 | amorphix | i need some help |
| 17:39.29 | sgtt | How can I know what binaries are associated to a specific library .so? |
| 17:39.40 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: and comment out the stable/updates line too |
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| 17:40.02 | amorphix | i cant run anything higher than 800x600 in X, im wondering if its because I dont have enough memory? |
| 17:40.14 | blujay | amorphix: what do you mean by you can't? :) |
| 17:40.44 | amorphix | blujay: X wont let me, no options higher than 800x600 in config, ive configured my video card driver correctly :-/ |
| 17:41.05 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: does that look right? |
| 17:41.08 | blujay | amorphix: have you put the right resolutions in /etc/X11/XF86Config? |
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| 17:41.27 | amorphix | im running a Matrox Millennium video card which has 8mb of ram and is fully capable of running higher resolution |
| 17:41.29 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: you didn't change anything from the last time you showed it to me |
| 17:41.35 | Starfury^ | having some moose problems, i have always struggled to get smooth mouse movements in debian.... i just change to a MS Intellimouse and its still jerky and the other buttons dont work |
| 17:42.01 | amorphix | blujay: i didnt touch the config file, i used the dpkg-reconfig |
| 17:42.07 | Twisted_Emotions | bluejay: haha sorry didnt copy |
| 17:42.13 | blujay | amorphix: did you select the right resolutions when you reconfigured it? |
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| 17:42.20 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: there |
| 17:42.30 | amorphix | yeah, i had them all selected up to max one, 1200 |
| 17:42.42 | amorphix | but none of them show in desktop config in X |
| 17:42.48 | FieldySnuts | great my employer's dns servers are down. but guess what they refuse to pay me for overtime "for any reason at all", so they get to wait till Monday. |
| 17:42.53 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: you didn't uncomment the sarge line, and you didn't comment out the others |
| 17:43.03 | amorphix | FieldySnuts that sux |
| 17:43.04 | blujay | amorphix: what do you mean, in desktop config? |
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| 17:43.08 | FieldySnuts | amorphix: for them. |
| 17:43.37 | amorphix | blujay: when I click on desktop configure options (right click on X desktop) the maximum resolution I can select is 800x600 |
| 17:43.51 | amorphix | FieldySnuts: there users too eh |
| 17:43.54 | blujay | amorphix: what environment are you using? |
| 17:43.54 | amorphix | *their |
| 17:43.58 | FieldySnuts | amorphix: yep |
| 17:44.02 | amorphix | blujay: KDE |
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| 17:44.43 | amorphix | im wondering if i need more ram (system ram) |
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| 17:44.52 | hhstnoc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:44.58 | hhstnoc | oops. |
| 17:44.59 | amorphix | i checked in info and it says im at 96% usage of memory (256mb ram fitted) |
| 17:45.01 | blujay | amorphix: have you restarted X since you changed the config? |
| 17:45.09 | amorphix | blujay: oops no |
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| 17:45.18 | amorphix | heh |
| 17:45.18 | blujay | amorphix: do that :) |
| 17:45.22 | amorphix | ok |
| 17:45.24 | timo_ | amorphix: you must check how much ram is cached! |
| 17:45.33 | amorphix | i have no swap space |
| 17:45.42 | amorphix | so all memory is being used eh |
| 17:45.44 | Henryk | amorphix: that usually is no problem, linux is quite eager to use all available ram |
| 17:45.49 | amorphix | ok |
| 17:45.53 | timo_ | free amount of ram isnt telling that much in linux |
| 17:45.55 | mirak | what do I need to a vpn between a linux server and a windows 2000 client ? |
| 17:45.57 | amorphix | i could upgrade up to 2GB if need be |
| 17:45.58 | dabreegster | amorphix: you can make a swap file on an existing partition |
| 17:46.04 | Henryk | would be a pity to have a lot of ram and don't use it, wouldn't it |
| 17:46.08 | amorphix | oh cool |
| 17:46.18 | dabreegster | amorphix: I did that, everything works fine. All because I forgot a swap partition originally |
| 17:46.19 | amorphix | Henryk yes i guess so |
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| 17:46.41 | amorphix | i chose a desktop setup in debconf but in hindsight with the low available memory it wasnt such a good idea |
| 17:46.47 | amorphix | well im glad i can make a swap still |
| 17:47.10 | dabreegster | amorphix: I dont remember how exactly, but you need to make the swap file and then add this in your /etc/fstab at the end: /home/swap none swap sw 0 0 |
| 17:47.13 | amorphix | else i have 512MB ram i could borrow from another machine |
| 17:47.25 | amorphix | ok |
| 17:47.29 | Selecter | Is debian-security sarge available? |
| 17:47.35 | blujay | Selecter: no |
| 17:47.36 | amorphix | abreegster thanks for that |
| 17:47.42 | amorphix | *d |
| 17:47.49 | dabreegster | !tell amorphix about swap file |
| 17:48.16 | Selecter | blujay: how did you know that? |
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| 17:48.52 | blujay | Selecter: because...I know...because Sarge isn't out yet...so there are no security updates yet...that's one of the reasons Sarge isn't out yet... |
| 17:49.06 | yonayona | Hello. I am new to Debian. How does is differ from RedHat? |
| 17:49.10 | amorphix | do any of you guys know anything about issue with using SDRAM with Intel 1840 chipset boards? |
| 17:49.21 | blujay | Selecter: google for sarge security updates |
| 17:49.35 | blujay | yonayona: google for a Debian FAQ |
| 17:49.56 | yonayona | Thanks blujay. I will do that. |
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| 17:50.09 | blujay | yonayona: have fun, Debian is better than RH :) |
| 17:50.10 | amorphix | I'm running a motherboard which was manufactured by HP and shortly after they released it they recalled all the memory expansion boards and replaced the SDRAM with RDRAM |
| 17:50.11 | Selecter | blujay: dpkg: "Current estimates are N+30 days, where N is when debian-security updates for sarge come online, in april 2005." |
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| 17:50.31 | blujay | Selecter: yup |
| 17:50.54 | Henryk | WTF? Why are there any ports open on a newly installed base debian system? |
| 17:50.57 | amorphix | my RAM didnt get changed for some reason and I'd prefer to keep the SDRAM due to lower cost and availability over RDRAM |
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| 17:51.08 | yonayona | I've been "stuck" with RedHat 9, so I'm looking for a change. This chat is a great resource, btw. |
| 17:51.19 | blujay | yonayona: check out debian-user@lists.debian.org too |
| 17:51.26 | Twisted_Emotions | What is that paste site? |
| 17:51.31 | Selecter | Henryk: because :) |
| 17:51.33 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: that what? |
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| 17:51.55 | Twisted_Emotions | that u paste shit in so people can look @... without spamming in here? |
| 17:52.03 | blujay | oh... |
| 17:52.14 | blujay | !flood |
| 17:52.15 | dpkg | Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. Any questions? If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 17:53.02 | paster | "/Twisted" at 68.126.218.70 pasted "Jesus Christ." (25 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/47 |
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| 17:53.23 | Twisted_Emotions | look ^^^^ |
| 17:53.29 | Twisted_Emotions | grrr... gonna take 6 months |
| 17:53.50 | blujay | haha...it only has to download 100MB of stuff...that's nothing |
| 17:54.01 | Twisted_Emotions | my shits slow at install.. |
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| 17:54.13 | dabreegster | 100MB on what connection? Even on 28k dialup that'd only take 10 hours. |
| 17:54.19 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: probably cause it's a virtual server... |
| 17:54.52 | Twisted_Emotions | no not slow download... slot install... yeah i know... and its gonna ask me like 10003054562 questions that i dont know and I just guess. |
| 17:54.59 | Henryk | and what is even more astounding: why is there no ssh daemon installed when it did install all sorts of other things |
| 17:55.07 | Twisted_Emotions | brb gonna go eat. |
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| 17:55.23 | blujay | Henryk: the folks who installed it for him installed Woody, but told him they installed Sarge |
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| 17:56.03 | Henryk | blujay: ehm no, I was talking about the woody installation i just did |
| 17:56.15 | blujay | Henryk: oops, sorry |
| 17:56.15 | Twisted_Emotions | lol... |
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| 17:56.34 | uber | hey |
| 17:56.36 | blujay | Henryk: so what ports were open? |
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| 17:56.42 | blujay | hey, uber |
| 17:56.43 | Twisted_Emotions | 1092kB/s.. not bad download speeds |
| 17:56.52 | Twisted_Emotions | brb... |
| 17:56.53 | uber | is their any way to get wmv files to play in firefox on debian? |
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| 17:57.02 | blujay | uber: maybe the mplayer plugin |
| 17:57.09 | dabreegster | !marillat |
| 17:57.09 | dpkg | marillat is probably an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list |
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| 17:57.11 | Henryk | I haven't installed any packages beyond the base system yet, but a quick nmap shows me discard, daytime, smtp and time to be open. |
| 17:57.12 | blujay | uber: I find it to be kind of annoying, myself |
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| 17:57.24 | blujay | Henryk: on a local network or the Internet? |
| 17:57.31 | fevel | how do i configure the network to share my connection...i have 2 network devices one connects to the modem (adsl, pppoe) and the other has a crossover cable connecting to another computer with ubuntu installed |
| 17:57.39 | Henryk | up to now it's on a local network |
| 17:57.46 | blujay | Henryk: maybe they are only open to the LAN |
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| 17:57.59 | blujay | Henryk: on the other hand, if you want a secure-by-default distro, you might look into OpenBSD |
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| 17:58.17 | Henryk | blujay: even suse gets this right. |
| 17:58.25 | blujay | Henryk: well, it is Woody |
| 17:58.32 | blujay | Henryk: maybe Sarge is better about that |
| 17:58.38 | Henryk | hehe, i hope so |
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| 17:59.01 | Terr1 | åe n |
| 17:59.18 | blujay | fevel: I think you can do that with iptables, google for iptables and connection sharing |
| 17:59.24 | tarzeau | moo |
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| 18:00.06 | Henryk | actually a more appropriate google keyword would be masquerading. "Connection sharing" ist microsoft-speak |
| 18:00.16 | fevel | thank u blujay but are u shure |
| 18:00.20 | blujay | ah, yes...I couldn't think of the word I was looking for |
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| 18:00.31 | Henryk | fevel: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ |
| 18:00.47 | blujay | but I'm sure other former-Windows-users have posted threads asking about linux connection sharing, so googling for it would probably find something :) |
| 18:00.48 | uber | blujay: what is annoying about the mplayer plugin? |
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| 18:01.08 | blujay | uber: well most of the time it downloads the clip but then sits there and doesn't play it unless you click Back and Forward again |
| 18:01.11 | dabreegster | uber: plugin? Just grab mplayer. It's awesome. |
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| 18:01.34 | blujay | fevel: no but I'm sure :) hehe, follow Henry's suggestion |
| 18:01.35 | uber | dabreegster: i want to be able to view inline video in firefox |
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| 18:01.43 | dabreegster | uber: Ah |
| 18:01.49 | cvt | full installation of debian website? |
| 18:01.55 | uber | dabreegster: got a better method? |
| 18:01.57 | blujay | cvt: yes |
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| 18:02.10 | cvt | I lost the link I had. |
| 18:02.16 | blujay | cvt: what? |
| 18:02.20 | dabreegster | uber: No. I don't use firefox. I dont even use X. I like mplayer cuz it'll play most of anything on the commandline with the right video drivers |
| 18:02.32 | cvt | I successfully installed the first disk of debian a couple days ago. |
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| 18:02.37 | blujay | cvt: woody? |
| 18:02.47 | uber | dabreegster: AH, I SEE |
| 18:02.49 | cvt | but I lost the link to the other disks. yes woody, i think. or sarge. |
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| 18:03.00 | blujay | !d-i cvt |
| 18:03.02 | dpkg | cvt, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 18:03.07 | timo_ | cvt: www.debian.org |
| 18:03.07 | dabreegster | uber: careful with that caps lock key |
| 18:03.15 | cvt | thx |
| 18:03.25 | uber | yeah, hit it with the "a" key, sorry |
| 18:04.05 | dabreegster | uber: I've mapped caps lock to ^C, so it makes things nice and dangerous for just 'tapping a key' |
| 18:04.34 | blujay | dabreegster: so what do you use caps lock for? control? |
| 18:04.49 | uber | dabreegster: yeah, i am on my laptop in an odd angle (broken couch) and fat fingered it |
| 18:05.00 | dabreegster | blujay: caps lock is control_c. |
| 18:05.09 | blujay | dabreegster: so what is your caps lock key for? |
| 18:05.09 | dabreegster | uber: heh |
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| 18:05.23 | timo_ | and how to you ctrl-c processes? |
| 18:05.25 | dabreegster | blujay: control+c. just a convenient shortcut so I can tap one key instead of two. |
| 18:05.47 | cvt | Quick question: So, if I install all 14 of those disks, will I have successfully installed the full debian os that is capable of performing every job that winxp does now? |
| 18:05.48 | blujay | dabreegster: oh, I thought you meant you had to press Ctrl+C to activate caps lock |
| 18:05.48 | dabreegster | timo_: ctrl+c works too. The caps lock key is faster. it's rather large on my keyboard. |
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| 18:06.02 | blujay | cvt, don't do that |
| 18:06.05 | dabreegster | blujay: hell no. That'd be kind of stupid. |
| 18:06.06 | blujay | !d-i cvt |
| 18:06.06 | dpkg | cvt, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 18:06.17 | cvt | oh |
| 18:06.24 | blujay | cvt, use the netinst ISO |
| 18:06.34 | cvt | ok, will do. |
| 18:06.43 | blujay | dabreegster: I thought it would be COMPLETELY stupid myself...but that's just me :) |
| 18:06.52 | zinx | cvt: uh, it'll do a hell of a lot more than winxp... but, you can't install all the packages. |
| 18:07.00 | blujay | cvt, if you want to replace Windows XP, maybe you should try Ubuntu |
| 18:07.01 | timo_ | me too |
| 18:07.01 | cvt | awesome |
| 18:07.12 | dabreegster | blujay: That useless number pad has also become immensely useful. |
| 18:07.18 | uber | cvt or debian ;-) |
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| 18:07.24 | zinx | cvt: do note that "more" doesn't neccesarily mean you can do the things in the same way, or in a compatible way |
| 18:07.26 | blujay | dabreegster: really? I use it for typing numbers myself... :P what about you? |
| 18:07.27 | cvt | yeah, i'll research ununtu, also. |
| 18:07.37 | cvt | ok |
| 18:07.46 | blujay | don't forget ubunto and kubunta :) |
| 18:07.48 | fevel | i think that was too much info Henryk, im pretty noob |
| 18:07.52 | dabreegster | blujay: most of the keys are mapped to control my music daemon, set an automatic console screensaver "BRB" program, and stuff like that |
| 18:08.00 | onre | the best use for number pad i've came up is as a sandwich holder |
| 18:08.01 | timo_ | putting caps on ctrl-c seems kind of stupid |
| 18:08.06 | fevel | isnt there an easier way to routa my connection |
| 18:08.16 | blujay | dabreegster: cool...you don't use X, but you can use a gamepad with XMMS to control it, I find it quite handy |
| 18:08.23 | dabreegster | timo_: no. ctrl+c AND caps lock both do what ctrl+c does. |
| 18:08.24 | cvt | basically, want firefox with extensions, play movies, dvds, cds, irc, and the ability to dl and install programs. |
| 18:08.35 | onre | can do. |
| 18:08.41 | dabreegster | blujay: I've got a gamepad, but I've always had trouble calibrating it. |
| 18:08.41 | FieldySnuts | ~smite onre |
| 18:08.42 | uber | cvt apt-get |
| 18:08.44 | onre | linux programs, though. |
| 18:08.45 | blujay | cvt, you should probably start with Ubuntu and the "Hoary after-install helper" |
| 18:08.50 | timo_ | dabreegster: so if you want to use CAPS in a shell you just ctrl-c and abort the program?! |
| 18:08.56 | onre | some windows stuff also works. |
| 18:08.59 | blujay | dabreegster: I have a MS Sidewinder gamepad...didn't have to calibrate it |
| 18:09.01 | onre | i actually have ie6 under wine. :P |
| 18:09.05 | valdyn | fevel: "apt-get install firestarter" clickie gui for a simple firewall and connection sharing |
| 18:09.08 | dabreegster | timo_: no. I dont ever use the original caps lock thing. |
| 18:09.12 | dabreegster | blujay: that name seems familiar.. hangon. |
| 18:09.26 | timo_ | dabreegster: but if you would, you'd abort the application |
| 18:09.29 | cvt | I so enjoyed the first disk of debian when I installed it a couple days ago. it was awesome. |
| 18:09.35 | timo_ | dabreegster: why just not map it to another keypress |
| 18:09.53 | blujay | cvt, really, try Ubuntu, you'll probably like it and find it very easy to use |
| 18:10.01 | fevel | thanks |
| 18:10.03 | cvt | ok. |
| 18:10.09 | dabreegster | timo_: the caps lock key is just a convenient shortcut for it. Understand? I never need to make letters ALL CAPITALS |
| 18:10.13 | blujay | cvt, then if you want more...configurability someday, or more up-to-dateness, try plain Debian |
| 18:10.17 | fevel | valdyn, thanks |
| 18:10.23 | blujay | but, dabreegster, you just did :) |
| 18:10.24 | dabreegster | blujay: I've got a MS sidewinder preicion pro. |
| 18:10.32 | timo_ | dabreegster: because when you abort an application in shell with ctrl-c youre at the same time pressing caps so you have to press ctrl-c once more maybe even after youve started the next application having to abort that one |
| 18:10.35 | blujay | dabreegster: there's a kernel module for sidewinder |
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| 18:10.54 | timo_ | dabreegster: and that is stupid |
| 18:10.55 | dabreegster | blujay: when I plugged it in, hotplug saw it and stuff. But when I used it in different apps, it'd act all funny |
| 18:10.59 | dabreegster | blujay: I'll check it out |
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| 18:11.14 | dabreegster | timo_: not to me. I like it, so I use it. Just that simple. |
| 18:11.25 | timo_ | :) i see |
| 18:11.26 | blujay | dabreegster: there's also an X program to calibrate your joystick...actually...wait...I think I DID have to use that program to do something for the gamepad |
| 18:11.46 | blujay | dabreegster: I don't remember the name of the program, but I found it in apt |
| 18:12.10 | dabreegster | blujay: When I'd try and use it in different games, it'd act like I'm pressing the stick one way when it's idle. And I couldnt get the games to think I was pressing it particular ways |
| 18:12.19 | blujay | dabreegster: I think I had to use it to set thresholds, or something like that... |
| 18:12.26 | dabreegster | blujay: jscal or jscalibrator? |
| 18:12.38 | valdyn | dabreegster: most applications should autocalibrate it if you wiggle it into all directions |
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| 18:12.40 | blujay | dabreegster: let me see if I can find it |
| 18:12.54 | dabreegster | blujay: One of those programs was asking me to move different axises in different directions, didnt have a clue what to do |
| 18:13.02 | dabreegster | valdyn: I'll try that |
| 18:13.11 | blujay | dabreegster: er...yeah...that just means move it all around as far as it will go :) |
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| 18:13.33 | blujay | dabreegster: yeah, jscalibrator |
| 18:13.45 | liable | hmmm, funky |
| 18:13.47 | dabreegster | blujay: I know, but how am I to know the difference between axis 0, 1, 2, and 3? |
| 18:13.54 | blujay | dabreegster: that's pretty easy... |
| 18:13.57 | dabreegster | blujay: besides, it had more... up to 8 I think |
| 18:14.06 | blujay | dabreegster: 0 and 1 are side-to-side, 2 is probably twist, and 3 is probably the throttle |
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| 18:14.19 | blujay | dabreegster: 0 and 1 are side-to-side and up-and-down I mean |
| 18:14.27 | dabreegster | blujay: alright |
| 18:14.37 | valdyn | dabreegster: that sounds like a flight sim with joystick / pedal etc |
| 18:14.37 | blujay | dabreegster: to find out, move the stick and see which axis changes |
| 18:14.48 | dabreegster | valdyn: Sabre |
| 18:14.56 | dabreegster | I'll plug it in and give it another shot |
| 18:15.10 | Henryk | ahh, at last. I've got an sshd on that box, so I won't need to sit in front of it |
| 18:15.30 | blujay | I found the coolest program yesterday, called synergy |
| 18:15.38 | dabreegster | blujay: what's that do? |
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| 18:16.17 | blujay | dabreegster: it lets you use one mouse and keyboard with two computers over a network. so I had my laptop next to my desktop LCD, and when I move the mouse off the monitor, it shows up on the laptop screen, and vice versa. as if they are one computer running two monitors |
| 18:16.26 | dabreegster | blujay: nifty |
| 18:17.02 | blujay | dabreegster: so my mouse movements went over the air to the wireless mouse receiver, into my computer, over the wired network, into the WAP, over the air, into the laptop's wifi card, and finally showed up on the screen...yet it was instantaneous, as if it was plugged right into the laptop |
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| 18:17.39 | blujay | isn't it sad that people still use Windows? |
| 18:17.50 | dabreegster | Yes. |
| 18:18.30 | takatumi | but there ain't no bonzibuddy in linux omg lol |
| 18:18.39 | liable | bah I use x windows |
| 18:19.01 | blujay | strange...that Apocalypse guy just DCC chatted me but then quit |
| 18:19.05 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: if only they could make linux easier to use ;( |
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| 18:19.17 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: have you not tried Ubuntu or Xandros? |
| 18:19.39 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: then what would you be doing? |
| 18:19.48 | amorphix | arrrrgghh ive lost my mouse pointer in X! I changed my graphics resolution higher and pointer has gone, vanished :( |
| 18:19.57 | dabreegster | blujay: Calibrating it did help. I've just got to work out some of the different axises |
| 18:20.02 | blujay | dabreegster: cool :) |
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| 18:20.19 | blujay | amorphix: er...so you're navigating entirely with the keyboard? |
| 18:20.28 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: no.. but im guessing if I did try them would they just be dumbed down versions of linux.. and if thats the case doesnt that deplete the purpose of running linux? |
| 18:20.43 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: well, uh...I think you are guessing wrong...you should try them :) |
| 18:20.53 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: try Ubuntu |
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| 18:20.58 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: or just try Sarge |
| 18:21.05 | valdyn | !d-i Twisted_Emotions |
| 18:21.06 | dpkg | Twisted_Emotions, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 18:21.13 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: are they easy to use? |
| 18:21.16 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: yes |
| 18:21.26 | Twisted_Emotions | valdyn: in process of installing sarge |
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| 18:21.38 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: if you want a fancier installer, try *shudder* Fedora :) |
| 18:21.53 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: lots of people use Fedora and like it, but it isn't Debian... |
| 18:22.05 | Twisted_Emotions | I used Fedora.. didnt like it... perfered debian thats why i had guy reinstall |
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| 18:22.12 | aardvark | spammyyy |
| 18:22.17 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: you're talking about on your server, I'm talking about for your own computer |
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| 18:22.47 | aardvark | ktnx |
| 18:23.00 | amorphix | arrrrgghh ive lost my mouse pointer in X! I changed my graphics resolution higher and pointer has gone, vanished :( |
| 18:23.05 | skel_home | anyone know of a good console based album art retriever? |
| 18:23.07 | blujay | amorphix: er...so you're navigating entirely with the keyboard? |
| 18:23.08 | amorphix | sorry for repeating, i cant scroll |
| 18:23.13 | amorphix | yes |
| 18:23.15 | amorphix | :-( |
| 18:23.24 | blujay | amorphix: what did you do to get your resolution up? |
| 18:23.32 | liable | amorphix: restart x |
| 18:23.48 | amorphix | ive restarted x several times, no change, even went thru configuration again |
| 18:23.49 | uber | dude, synergy looks amazing... i want to install it tongiht on xp, debina, and osx and go to town.... |
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| 18:24.01 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: ohh.. well I installed debian at home.. got everything up and running even got server running... but was still a pain to install porgrams becuase I could only run server under normal usernames not root.. and when I tried to install programs in xserver they would say i need root access so i gave up. |
| 18:24.06 | blujay | yeah, synergy is really cool...easy to set up too, worked the first time |
| 18:24.27 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: uh... |
| 18:24.29 | polm | What is a good frontend for creating iptables rules ? I'm more than comfortable with doing this via CLI, but I was looking for a nice graphical front. packages.debian.org has a ton of choices, and I was hoping to avoid tryin them all ;-) |
| 18:24.29 | liable | amorphix: how did you change your resolution? |
| 18:24.32 | amorphix | blujay: the resolution was set to max when i started X, i didnt change it |
| 18:24.38 | blujay | polm: Firestarter is one |
| 18:24.43 | Starfury^ | having some moose problems, i have always struggled to get smooth mouse movements in debian.... i just change to a MS Intellimouse and its still jerky and the other buttons dont work |
| 18:24.57 | uber | blujay: how would it handle if i turned off one of the computers sharing the mouse? |
| 18:24.58 | amorphix | strangely the mouse is working! |
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| 18:25.01 | amorphix | but no pointer |
| 18:25.02 | skel_home | anyone know how to do source ip nets in a display filter with ethereal? I don't see anything for net support in the IP filter and I've tried ip.src == 192.168.10/24 |
| 18:25.16 | blujay | uber: it would probably just not let you move the mouse off the screen in that direction anymore |
| 18:25.29 | blujay | uber: actually, that's what I did...turned off the laptop...no probs on the desktop |
| 18:25.33 | amorphix | i can only figure out where the mouse is out by drawing a square on desktop then guessing where the pointer will be |
| 18:25.41 | uber | that is cool... if i had 3, would it skip over the middle one? |
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| 18:25.54 | amorphix | wheres my pointer :-( |
| 18:26.00 | blujay | uber: I dunno, the middle one should be the one it's connected to physically I think |
| 18:26.11 | uber | blujay: the reason i ask is 2 of the 3 computers i would hook up are laptops i haul elsewhere alot |
| 18:26.27 | blujay | uber: well that should work |
| 18:26.29 | uber | blujay: ah, ok |
| 18:26.44 | blujay | uber: you can do a lot with the config files, the /usr/share/doc/synergy explains it quite clearly |
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| 18:27.09 | Twisted_Emotions | So woddy isnt stable yet? And sarge is? |
| 18:27.15 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: other way around |
| 18:27.18 | Twisted_Emotions | *woody |
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| 18:27.29 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: then why am I installing sarge? |
| 18:27.43 | Twisted_Emotions | Dont you WANT it to be stable? |
| 18:27.46 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: you should probably read a FAQ about Debian so you understand it better |
| 18:27.55 | blujay | stable doesn't just mean "doesn't crash" |
| 18:28.02 | blujay | it means "no new versions" |
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| 18:28.15 | blujay | the "stable" release only gets security fixes |
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| 18:28.29 | blujay | so in this case, woody has software that is years out of date, except for security fixes |
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| 18:28.39 | Starfury^ | is there a channel fro xfree86 |
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| 18:28.42 | Starfury^ | ? |
| 18:28.43 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: ohh... kk... |
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| 18:28.57 | blujay | Starfury^: have you heard about www.google.com? :) |
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| 18:29.23 | FieldySnuts | apt: dachs? |
| 18:29.41 | polm | bluejay: thanks for the tip, firestarter is great/ |
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| 18:29.51 | blujay | polm: np :) |
| 18:29.58 | amorphix | im screwed |
| 18:30.08 | StupidMop | I want to access a debian machine on my network from a Win2000 box (and vice-versa). What is the best way to do that? TightVNC? or something else? |
| 18:30.11 | Twisted_Emotions | when you guys type someone name like blujay: do you always type it out or click on the name or some shit like that? |
| 18:30.11 | blujay | amorphix: does it come back at lower resolutions? |
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| 18:30.20 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: I hit t w tab |
| 18:30.25 | jhair | StupidMop, ssh ? |
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| 18:30.37 | amorphix | blujay: i dont think so, i moved down to 1024 in KDE and no change |
| 18:30.38 | blujay | StupidMop: VNC or freeNX probably |
| 18:30.48 | blujay | amorphix: what about 800x600? |
| 18:30.56 | Starfury^ | blujay: yeah and the first link was freenode.net #debian :) |
| 18:31.01 | amorphix | i will try |
| 18:31.06 | Twisted_Emotions | ohhh pimp ;) weeeee... no longer have to type huge names.. |
| 18:31.08 | blujay | Starfury^: well, maybe this is the best place then :) |
| 18:31.08 | alioio | anyone ever used the debain boot-splash patch? |
| 18:31.25 | dabreegster | alioio: tried to. never have got it working. not worth the trouble |
| 18:31.26 | blujay | alioio: no but I would like to |
| 18:31.47 | dabreegster | alioio: if you want a nice console environment, that can be done easily. |
| 18:31.48 | torc | how do i safely disable initrd on boot if i compile a custom kernel? |
| 18:31.49 | blujay | yeah you have to recompile the kernel and mess with grub...I tried once but it didn't work |
| 18:32.01 | alioio | its ssoooooooooo sexy man...I just needed to know which patch to use from bootsplash.org or from debian reps? |
| 18:32.17 | blujay | alioio: just use Gentoo :) hehe |
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| 18:32.24 | dabreegster | alioio: it does look cool, but in the end, it's distracting. Plus framebuffer has a hell load of problems |
| 18:32.30 | alioio | I want it to look good :) |
| 18:32.35 | dabreegster | alioio: you want it just for boot and permanently on the console? |
| 18:32.41 | blujay | dabreegster: more distracting than a thousand lines of startup info? :) |
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| 18:32.52 | alioio | so its more "peaceful" |
| 18:32.55 | dabreegster | blujay: Nah, but it's distracting if you have it on all the time |
| 18:33.15 | alioio | and I have been an XP user so.... |
| 18:33.17 | blujay | !funny alioio |
| 18:33.20 | liable | alioio: no, becuse you need to get the pope to bless it and then get it on the space shuttle to fly around the moon, and then its works :) |
| 18:33.24 | alioio | so which patch did u try? |
| 18:33.29 | dabreegster | alioio: If you don't care about booting looking good, but want the console in general to look great, I can help you there. |
| 18:33.48 | dabreegster | alioio: Several. There are different projects: debsplash, bootsplash, gensplash, fbsplash, none of them worked for me. |
| 18:33.56 | FieldySnuts | booting lasts a short time, why bother.. very silly |
| 18:33.58 | alioio | I dont care about the console that much I use a DE anyways... |
| 18:34.15 | alioio | yep but on a lpatop it is like 20 times a day :( |
| 18:34.21 | blujay | alioio: what are you doing BOOTING anyway? you're supposed to leave your comp running :) ...oh |
| 18:34.24 | dabreegster | FieldySnuts: exactly. But having it on permanently *would* look cool while you're working. But in the end, it's distracting |
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| 18:34.35 | dabreegster | alioio: it'd probably slow down the boot process |
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| 18:34.44 | AP03 | can anyone answer some questions on wget? |
| 18:34.55 | blujay | !ask AP03 |
| 18:34.57 | dabreegster | AP03: don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 18:35.09 | AP03 | how can I get wget to return me the filename it retrieved? |
| 18:35.09 | dabreegster | blujay: and to think I took the time to type the quote myself |
| 18:35.14 | alioio | aah...I just wanted it to work once if its distracting/degrades performance I'll get rid of it |
| 18:35.18 | right-mx | hi folks |
| 18:35.22 | dabreegster | AP03: you using it interactively or from a script? |
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| 18:35.31 | AP03 | dabreegster: from a script |
| 18:35.33 | blujay | dabreegster: haha, yeah...too many keywords to remember |
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| 18:35.40 | dabreegster | AP03: shell? Perl? |
| 18:36.05 | AP03 | dabreegster: well, vb really, wget for windoze :) |
| 18:36.07 | dabreegster | AP03: If it's from perl, consider a cpan module. If it's shell, I have no clue. |
| 18:36.10 | right-mx | i have a wired problem with my Licq 1.3.0/SSL. i can conncect and work and do EVERYthing fine, except one thing. other people can't ever see me online |
| 18:36.17 | alioio | so guys which patches did you use official or bootsplash.org? |
| 18:36.21 | dabreegster | AP03: GROSS! Please do not mention that in my presence |
| 18:36.24 | blujay | VB, Windows?!? Blasphemy! |
| 18:36.28 | AP03 | dabreegster: are you familiar with the -O option? |
| 18:36.29 | dabreegster | alioio: bootsplash.de I think, actually |
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| 18:36.38 | dabreegster | AP03: yep. I've used it. |
| 18:36.47 | AP03 | dabreegster: are you familiar with -k also? |
| 18:36.52 | dabreegster | AP03: no, lemme look |
| 18:36.57 | blujay | AP03: if you are calling wget, don't you know what file you're telling it to get? |
| 18:37.10 | AP03 | blujay: i am trying to do this: wget -k URL -O myfile |
| 18:37.14 | dabreegster | AP03: I see what it does now. |
| 18:37.15 | AP03 | wget -k URL works fine |
| 18:37.24 | AP03 | but wget -k URL -O myfile doesnt fix the paths |
| 18:37.33 | Twisted_Emotions | if you use -O and -k together then I have a feeling everying will be -Ok... HAHAHAHHA GEt it?! |
| 18:37.36 | alioio | ok does anyone know if we can add processor specific optimizations to the kernel like SSE2 (I cant find any guide on this) |
| 18:37.43 | dabreegster | Twisted_Emotions: Stupidest... joke... ever. |
| 18:37.50 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: nice one buddy |
| 18:37.53 | AP03 | any insights? |
| 18:37.53 | alioio | :) |
| 18:37.54 | Twisted_Emotions | dabreegster: weeeeeee |
| 18:37.56 | blujay | dabreegster: oh come on it was good |
| 18:38.01 | dabreegster | Fine, it was. |
| 18:38.06 | Twisted_Emotions | hahaha |
| 18:38.08 | blujay | though the O and k are out of order... |
| 18:38.12 | Twisted_Emotions | sorry. |
| 18:38.13 | doub | alioio: it's already done as far as gcc supports them |
| 18:38.22 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: hehe, dont worry, I thought it was good |
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| 18:38.37 | dabreegster | Twisted_Emotions: Submit it to bash.org. |
| 18:38.52 | doub | alioio: that is, some people say, badly. if you want sse2 specific optimizations, you'll have to recode functions yourself |
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| 18:38.53 | alioio | but don't you have to menstion them somehwere like in msvc++ you add switches like o2 sse2 etc |
| 18:38.59 | dabreegster | Twisted_Emotions: that's the monitor burning down. |
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| 18:39.12 | fevel | firestarter said my eth0 (internet device) is not ready to check my internet settings and try again |
| 18:39.13 | alioio | aaah ok.... |
| 18:39.14 | doub | alioio: -march and -mcpu, see man gcc |
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| 18:39.23 | fevel | how can that be if im here connected |
| 18:39.35 | AP03 | so does anyone know how to use wget -k and -O together? |
| 18:39.43 | dabreegster | fevel: But you're not connected! None of us can see what you're saying! |
| 18:39.53 | blujay | uh...yeah...we can't hear you, fevel... |
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| 18:40.05 | alioio | hey if I use gcc 4.0 any chance of some screw ups? |
| 18:40.06 | dabreegster | blujay: That trick is from bash. One day I'm trying that password one. |
| 18:40.17 | fevel | what do u mean |
| 18:40.21 | blujay | dabreegster: which trick? |
| 18:40.22 | fevel | i dont understand |
| 18:40.26 | doub | alioio: i don't think it's recommended. but try and see yourself |
| 18:40.27 | blujay | fevel, it was a joke |
| 18:40.29 | dabreegster | fevel: We can't see what you're saying! Speak up! |
| 18:40.31 | liable | fevel: *sarcasm* |
| 18:40.35 | dabreegster | blujay: Let me find it |
| 18:40.42 | fevel | oh |
| 18:40.43 | blujay | Hey, can we get a !joke keyword in dpkg? |
| 18:40.44 | fevel | lol |
| 18:40.46 | fevel | duhh |
| 18:40.54 | Twisted_Emotions | bash.org is funny.. |
| 18:40.55 | blujay | !haha |
| 18:40.56 | AP03 | dabreegster: i guess everyone lost interest after that joke |
| 18:41.04 | anarcat | hello everyone |
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| 18:41.20 | fevel | can u help me with firestarter |
| 18:41.22 | doub | alioio: but i wonder what part of the kernel you want to see SSE2 optimized. there's no in-kernel floating point intensive operations that i know of |
| 18:41.22 | dabreegster | AP03: which? Twisted_Emotions's or the one on bash? |
| 18:41.25 | blujay | hi anarcat |
| 18:41.34 | AP03 | dabreegster: Twisted_Emotions |
| 18:41.39 | raf256 | is there a good C/C++ librarry to access IRC? |
| 18:41.49 | raf256 | so that I can write easly program that connects to IRC |
| 18:41.50 | dabreegster | AP03: ah |
| 18:41.52 | raf256 | like a bot |
| 18:41.54 | blujay | AP03: well, the joke was more interesting than your problem :) |
| 18:41.59 | alioio | I am a noob so the extent of my knowledge is SSE2 = fast :D |
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| 18:42.06 | poli | raf256, IRC is a really simple protocol |
| 18:42.07 | blujay | !google raf256 |
| 18:42.09 | lanchow | Results for raf256 on Google: |
| 18:42.09 | lanchow | http://www.<b>raf256</b>.com/ |
| 18:42.09 | lanchow | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ |
| 18:42.09 | lanchow | -- |
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| 18:42.14 | dpkg | Google says raf256 is at http://www.raf256.com/ or http://www.raf256.com/me-news/ or http://www.raf256.com/me/ or http://www.raf256.com/cpp/allegro/install/mingw/doc1/?lang=pl or http://www.raf256.com/cpp/allegro/install/mingw/doc1/?lang=en |
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| 18:42.20 | blujay | aw, that's not what I wanted |
| 18:42.22 | raf256 | :O ? |
| 18:42.27 | liable | fevel: go to irc.com if your worried about it |
| 18:42.29 | dabreegster | Two bots dueling it out! |
| 18:42.30 | anarcat | hmmm |
| 18:42.31 | amorphix | damn |
| 18:42.31 | poli | raf256, you can interac with it using text-only with no greater difficulties. |
| 18:42.35 | raf256 | wtf? |
| 18:42.37 | blujay | raf256: google for a C IRC library |
| 18:42.44 | anarcat | anyone else has problems with ide-scsi/cdrecord on sarge with recent updates? |
| 18:42.45 | liable | fevel: s/irc/grc :) |
| 18:42.46 | amorphix | blujay: I'm at 800x600 and still no mouse pointer |
| 18:42.53 | anarcat | i used to have a working setup, but now it's dead |
| 18:42.55 | raf256 | blujay: ok |
| 18:43.09 | amorphix | can anyone search on Google for a solution to disappearing mouse pointer in X |
| 18:43.10 | doub | alioio: SSE2 = faster than native FPU. that's of very limited use for most kernel operation |
| 18:43.13 | blujay | amorphix: I'm sorry, I don't know what to say other than look in your XF86Config file or try purging and reinstalling the X packages |
| 18:43.16 | paster | "Twisted_Emotions" at 68.126.218.70 pasted "Damn funnnnny" (17 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/48 |
| 18:43.39 | raf256 | blujay: I would rather search for read yto us ehigh level librarry, since I dont know sockets too well (yet) |
| 18:43.46 | amorphix | im screwed |
| 18:43.52 | shining | amorphix: try elinks |
| 18:43.59 | amorphix | whats elinks |
| 18:43.59 | blujay | hehe @ Twisted_Emotions |
| 18:44.04 | dabreegster | amorphix: what're you trying to do? elinks is a good suggestion. |
| 18:44.07 | AP03 | are there any other chans that could answer qs about wget? |
| 18:44.15 | blujay | raf256: right, that's what I suggest :) |
| 18:44.21 | doub | alioio: that's most useful to games, 3d, video or sound compression, all of which the kernel doesn't deal with |
| 18:44.22 | raf256 | \o/ ok tyhen |
| 18:44.27 | amorphix | dabreegster: i've lost my mouse pointer in X |
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| 18:44.34 | blujay | AP03: debian-user@lists.debian.org :) |
| 18:44.50 | dabreegster | amorphix: restart X. |
| 18:45.00 | amorphix | restarted my PC 3x |
| 18:45.00 | blujay | dabreegster: he's tried multiple times |
| 18:45.21 | alioio | doub: no other optimization swithces? |
| 18:45.21 | dabreegster | amorphix: no clue. what kind of mouse? cat the device and move the mouse around, see if theres data |
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| 18:45.26 | shining | does anyone have dovecot running ? |
| 18:45.33 | amorphix | the mouse is working |
| 18:45.34 | blujay | dabreegster: he's actually lost his *cursor* not the mouse |
| 18:45.37 | amorphix | just no pointer |
| 18:45.39 | dabreegster | amorphix: cat /dev/input/mouse0 or something. |
| 18:45.45 | amorphix | ok |
| 18:45.45 | wnaLinux | can someone help me with alsa? My sound card wasnt detected and I am unable to compile my own module, any Ideas? |
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| 18:45.53 | blujay | wnaLinux: have you run alsaconf? |
| 18:45.57 | doub | alioio: -mcpu and -march will use optimisation suitable for your CPU and architecture, that's SSE2 if it so has |
| 18:45.57 | dabreegster | blujay: I have no clue. It could be a physical hardware problem |
| 18:45.57 | wnaLinux | yes |
| 18:46.03 | liable | amorphix: how did this come about again |
| 18:46.03 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: what card? Also, /join #alsa |
| 18:46.11 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: did you check to see if it was supported? |
| 18:46.17 | wnaLinux | yes it is |
| 18:46.27 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: what card? |
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| 18:46.37 | wnaLinux | its a onboard via chip |
| 18:46.46 | blujay | wnaLinux: what kernel? |
| 18:46.49 | amorphix | liable: the only thing i did was changed my graphics resolution using dpkg-reconfigure, and restart X |
| 18:46.50 | wnaLinux | snd-via82xx I think |
| 18:46.52 | doub | alioio: but again, this is only for compiler automatic optimization, which won't replace native SSE2 code |
| 18:46.52 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: lspci and get the name. |
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| 18:47.03 | shining | doub: -march is enough. otherwise its -mtune now I believe |
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| 18:47.14 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: that's the module. Are you sure it's the right one for it? |
| 18:47.30 | wnaLinux | yes, originally it was detected |
| 18:47.37 | alioio | ok...now I need suggestions for a distro+DE for a 833MHz PIII/ 384MB RAM |
| 18:47.38 | amorphix | is it possible I've increased the resolution beyond what my graphics card/monitor can support? |
| 18:47.38 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: dmesg|less |
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| 18:47.44 | wnaLinux | then I tryed playing a cd |
| 18:47.47 | wnaLinux | no sound |
| 18:47.47 | alioio | I am confused between unstable and testing |
| 18:47.52 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: what does /etc/init.d/alsa restart say? |
| 18:47.55 | amorphix | it looks ok tho |
| 18:47.57 | blujay | amorphix: not if you can see the screen |
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| 18:48.07 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: try another sound file first; might be the cd |
| 18:48.08 | liable | amorphix: do you hav a /etx/X11/XFConfig-4~ file |
| 18:48.08 | JoshTriplett | wnaLinux: Do other sounds still play? |
| 18:48.22 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: wait, did you unmute the channels? Use a mixer like aumix and crank up the volume |
| 18:48.36 | liable | amorphix: XF86Config-4~ even |
| 18:48.39 | wnaLinux | Shutting down ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1221: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing'. failed. |
| 18:48.41 | blujay | amorphix: try reconfiguring the package again, maybe you made a mistake |
| 18:49.11 | JoshTriplett | wnaLinux: You have to do it as root. |
| 18:49.12 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: cat /var/lib/alsa/asound.state. I assume you're root? |
| 18:49.27 | blujay | out |
| 18:49.34 | wnaLinux | thats what It says and yes I tweaked the mixer with alsamixer |
| 18:49.44 | wnaLinux | oh ok |
| 18:49.52 | doub | alioio: testing is unstable with less bugs, as in : new packages go to unstable, are fixed if need be, and are then automagically migrated to testing |
| 18:49.55 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: Alright. Did you restart alsa as root though? have you tried alsaconf (as root)? |
| 18:49.57 | blujay | dabreegster: now now, you know what happens when you assume ;) |
| 18:50.04 | doub | alioio: which is a "stable" candidate |
| 18:50.18 | wnaLinux | yes I have |
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| 18:50.30 | dabreegster | blujay: Assumptions are dangerous things to make, as are apple pies. |
| 18:50.39 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: join #alsa. they can help. |
| 18:50.40 | blujay | dabreegster: uh oh, I had one of those a few hours ago |
| 18:50.44 | wnaLinux | ok |
| 18:51.04 | dabreegster | blujay: RUN!!!! |
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| 18:51.12 | blujay | dabreegster: where? |
| 18:51.22 | dabreegster | blujay: to canada! |
| 18:51.24 | blujay | dabreegster: away from my stomach? |
| 18:51.29 | alioio | I have a little idea but this has to be noob friendly (people who haven't used linux before) and will be used as a small web server as well |
| 18:51.35 | dabreegster | blujay: yes! to canada! |
| 18:51.37 | blujay | dabreegster: what if I'm already in Canada? I'm not, but what if I am? |
| 18:51.42 | doub | dabreegster: why are apple pies dangerous to make? |
| 18:51.45 | alioio | I have had not problems with sid but you never know :S |
| 18:51.48 | dabreegster | blujay: I don't know! |
| 18:51.54 | blujay | dabreegster: that's comforting :) |
| 18:51.55 | dabreegster | doub: I dunno, it was in some book. |
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| 18:52.12 | blujay | ooh, can we get that in a dpkg keyword, dabreegster? :) |
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| 18:52.37 | blujay | quick, cover your eyes! |
| 18:52.43 | dabreegster | Lemony snicket's a series of unfortunate events, book #5, the austere academy |
| 18:52.59 | liable | well dunno about yous, I was thinking american pie |
| 18:52.59 | blujay | ...wow |
| 18:53.00 | dabreegster | blujay: I dunno. I don't run dpkg |
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| 18:53.07 | doub | alioio: then go for testing, aka sarge |
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| 18:53.18 | blujay | yeah I know, I was just thinking out loud :) |
| 18:53.21 | doub | !d-i alioio |
| 18:53.22 | dpkg | alioio, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 18:53.30 | gteppel | Has anybody installed pure-ftpd-mysql on Sid?, Do I need to create some sort of table structure to get pure-ftpd working with mysql support? When I /etc/init.d/pure-ftp-mysql start I don't get any errors on the console or logs file.... Any help would be appreciated, thanks! |
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| 18:53.48 | blujay | gteppel: have you read the docs on that package? |
| 18:54.05 | wnaLinux | nobody is answering on the alsa channel |
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| 18:54.16 | gteppel | blujay: yes i've read the docs in /usr/share/doc/pureftpd |
| 18:54.17 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: idle. |
| 18:54.18 | blujay | wnaLinux: might try the debian-user mailing list |
| 18:54.30 | blujay | gteppel: I mean the docs for pure-ftpd-mysql, not just pureftpd |
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| 18:54.36 | revenger_ | does anyone know how to set up a cinergy terratec T2 usb dvb receiver? |
| 18:54.48 | pagux | hi |
| 18:54.51 | gteppel | blujay: i've read this too ->/usr/share/doc/pure-ftp-mysql |
| 18:54.53 | doub | !anyone |
| 18:54.53 | wnaLinux | in other words, no one in here can help me? |
| 18:54.53 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 18:54.58 | blujay | gteppel: oh, ok then :) |
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| 18:55.13 | pagux | i am facing a proplem while installing debian |
| 18:55.14 | paster | "Twisted_Emotions" at 68.126.218.70 pasted "Help. Second time I've run apt-get dist-upgrade even ran -f" (19 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/50 |
| 18:55.33 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: not necessarily. give us some more information. |
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| 18:55.56 | gteppel | blujay: another unrelated question, how do you read files under the /usr/share/doc tree that are gzipped? or do i have gunzip every time |
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| 18:56.03 | anyone | >:-D |
| 18:56.03 | wnaLinux | well alsaconf originally detected my sound card |
| 18:56.07 | blujay | gteppel: use konqueror, makes it easy |
| 18:56.10 | wnaLinux | now it doesent |
| 18:56.24 | dabreegster | gteppel: zless |
| 18:56.33 | doub | Twisted_Emotions: first run apt-get update to get rid of the last messages |
| 18:56.40 | pagux | in partitioner I got a unparttioned free space ........I want to make a new partition but when i click on it just tells the cylinder information |
| 18:56.43 | gteppel | thanks dabreegster |
| 18:56.44 | wnaLinux | and I am using kernel 2.6.11-1-386 |
| 18:56.51 | Twisted_Emotions | doub: ok |
| 18:56.54 | pagux | how do i create a new partition |
| 18:56.55 | gteppel | blujay: i don't have x installed... its just a server |
| 18:56.56 | dabreegster | gteppel: there's also a zmore. scary. |
| 18:56.57 | blujay | doub: that won't fix those I think |
| 18:57.10 | blujay | gteppel: maybe you can find an online HTML version of those docs then |
| 18:57.17 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: you couldnt just post it to #flood eh? |
| 18:57.19 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: you need to edit sources.list and fix those |
| 18:57.23 | dabreegster | pagux: do you have free space outside a partition? try cfdisk. be careful. |
| 18:57.38 | pagux | yes |
| 18:57.45 | gteppel | blujay: good point |
| 18:57.50 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: but as for the first error...which is the real problem...I guess you need to read /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache-mod-dav.prerm and find out what it wants with /usr/sbin/apacheconfig |
| 18:57.54 | wnaLinux | alsaconf originally detected my sound card and ideas why it doesent now? |
| 18:57.56 | pagux | but there is no option for it |
| 18:58.04 | blujay | wnaLinux: could be an IRQ problem |
| 18:58.04 | Twisted_Emotions | liable: last time I did that it was too long and I got kicked off of server... |
| 18:58.09 | dabreegster | pagux: try cfdisk. read a tutorial and the manpage first. It's pretty simple |
| 18:58.12 | wnaLinux | IRQ? |
| 18:58.15 | drac | wnaLinux: doesn't work how? |
| 18:58.16 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: it detected it, but did sound work? |
| 18:58.18 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: in flood even? |
| 18:58.26 | wnaLinux | nope |
| 18:58.33 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: what have you changed/done relating to sound or hardware in general? |
| 18:58.35 | drac | wnaLinux: you removed mutes from alsamixer? |
| 18:58.36 | pagux | are sure it there is so called new debian installer ? |
| 18:58.36 | doub | blujay, Twisted_Emotions: blujay is right, i didn't read carefully. your sources.list is broken |
| 18:58.37 | amorphix | how do i exit X and get to a shell? |
| 18:58.40 | wnaLinux | so I uninstalled it and tryed compiling my own driver |
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| 18:58.47 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: well, that'd be the problem. it used to detect it, but no sound. now it won't even detect it? |
| 18:58.49 | wnaLinux | that failed as well |
| 18:58.53 | Twisted_Emotions | liable: yeah I was in flood and I pasted like 15 lines... it paste supper fast so i got kicked |
| 18:58.53 | dabreegster | amorphix: ctrl+alt+f1 |
| 18:58.57 | amorphix | thanks |
| 18:59.02 | wnaLinux | yes thats correct |
| 18:59.13 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: that sucks ass |
| 18:59.14 | Twisted_Emotions | doub: Thanks.. will edit the file. |
| 18:59.32 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: what have you changed/done relating to alsa since the time it was detecting it and it wasn't? |
| 18:59.33 | blujay | Twisted_Emotions: you might try "apt-get remove apache" first, before doing another dist-upgrade |
| 18:59.38 | Twisted_Emotions | liable: yeah well.. so now on ill just paste.. easier. |
| 18:59.51 | doub | Twisted_Emotions: you can try "apt-setup" which would create a simple one. move your original sources.list away first |
| 18:59.53 | wnaLinux | I removed it and tryed compiling my own |
| 18:59.57 | Twisted_Emotions | blujay: ok. |
| 19:00.06 | Twisted_Emotions | I dont need apache so.. |
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| 19:00.11 | blujay | bbiab |
| 19:00.15 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: that's not good. if it was detecting it, there's no need to go compile it again |
| 19:00.18 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: yeah but it sucks for lazy bastards like me, ctrl + n is much easier |
| 19:00.28 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: try and clean out everything you've done, then grab alsa again |
| 19:00.39 | wnaLinux | ok |
| 19:00.39 | Twisted_Emotions | liable: what is ctrl n? |
| 19:00.52 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: irssi next window |
| 19:01.01 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: actually, there's no need to compile at all if you're on a kernel above 2.4. alsa modules are already included in the stock kernels |
| 19:01.19 | wnaLinux | how do I remove everything related to alsa all at once |
| 19:01.21 | wnaLinux | oh |
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| 19:01.39 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: you on a kernel from a kernel-image package? |
| 19:01.45 | wnaLinux | yes |
| 19:01.55 | pepsi_ | is there any way of restoring the original config files of a specific package? |
| 19:02.01 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: you should have the modules already. |
| 19:02.11 | wnaLinux | but I have the kernel headers as well |
| 19:02.21 | wnaLinux | really than thats really wierd |
| 19:02.33 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: that's good, but you should already have the modules in the form they need to be |
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| 19:02.46 | wnaLinux | yeah I underastand |
| 19:02.48 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: lsmod and look for snd_ stuff |
| 19:02.49 | liable | wnaLinux: does lsmod show your sound modules? |
| 19:03.05 | wnaLinux | I dont know , liable |
| 19:03.20 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: lsmod|grep snd |
| 19:03.22 | liable | wnaLinux: lsmod | grep snd |
| 19:03.26 | wnaLinux | ok |
| 19:03.29 | blujay | oooh, too slow |
| 19:03.36 | blujay | ::) |
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| 19:03.58 | liable | dabreegster: you win :) |
| 19:04.05 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: really stupid question. are you positive your speakers are connected and working? |
| 19:04.17 | doub | pepsi_: apt-get --reinstall install <package> |
| 19:04.20 | dabreegster | liable: I'm faster. And that's with 1.07 lag. |
| 19:04.24 | pepsi_ | doub: thx! |
| 19:04.34 | wnaLinux | wow it seems my sound modules loaded |
| 19:04.35 | liable | dabreegster: whatever |
| 19:04.39 | pepsi_ | doub: I'm going back to the original bash-configs now! hehe |
| 19:04.40 | wnaLinux | take a look |
| 19:04.43 | wnaLinux | snd_via82xx 24896 0 |
| 19:04.43 | wnaLinux | snd_ac97_codec 65656 1 snd_via82xx |
| 19:04.43 | wnaLinux | snd_pcm_oss 46752 0 |
| 19:04.43 | wnaLinux | snd_mixer_oss 16256 1 snd_pcm_oss |
| 19:04.43 | wnaLinux | snd_pcm 79624 3 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss |
| 19:04.44 | wnaLinux | snd_timer 22020 1 snd_pcm |
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| 19:04.49 | blujay | lol |
| 19:04.50 | dabreegster | I knew he'd do that. |
| 19:04.50 | jhair | hehe |
| 19:05.01 | Xenguy | bye |
| 19:05.03 | dabreegster | Well, the modules are there at least. |
| 19:05.06 | wintix | hehe |
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| 19:05.15 | aardvark | !tell wnaLinux about flood |
| 19:05.15 | wnaLinux | oops |
| 19:05.17 | blujay | looks like he has OSS modules loaded |
| 19:05.30 | blujay | when he's running ALSA |
| 19:05.34 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: don't flood again. but it looks like you've got the modules. |
| 19:05.59 | liable | wnaLinux: alsaconf then |
| 19:06.00 | wnaLinux | ok |
| 19:06.02 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: as root, try /etc/init.d/alsa restart again and tell us any errors. if it's a long error, DON'T FLOOD. :) |
| 19:06.04 | wintix | wnaLinux: use pastebin.de instead of flooding here. |
| 19:06.17 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: as root. |
| 19:06.23 | blujay | !flood wintix :) |
| 19:06.24 | wnaLinux | lol ok |
| 19:06.31 | wnaLinux | yeah sorry bout the flood |
| 19:06.43 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: s'okay. |
| 19:07.03 | wnaLinux | nope no errors |
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| 19:07.10 | wnaLinux | restarts just fine |
| 19:07.21 | liable | wnaLinux: from alsaconf? |
| 19:07.23 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: crank up the volume with a mixer. alsamixer or aumix. |
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| 19:07.32 | wnaLinux | ok |
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| 19:07.47 | dabreegster | wnaLinux: make sure your speakers and connected & turned on, if necessary. then play a sound file. don't try a cd yet. |
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| 19:08.19 | liable | wnaLinux: are you on a laptop by any chance? |
| 19:08.26 | Althaser | can someone tell me which port i must redirection for apache works in pc client of network ? please |
| 19:08.27 | wnaLinux | nope |
| 19:08.40 | blujay | dabreegster: did you notice that he has OSS modules loaded? |
| 19:08.41 | wnaLinux | oh |
| 19:08.43 | wnaLinux | oops |
| 19:08.45 | liable | wnaLinux: did it work in earlier kernels? |
| 19:08.47 | wnaLinux | I tryed cd |
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| 19:08.55 | dabreegster | blujay: Yeah. I think I do too, actually. |
| 19:09.02 | blujay | Althaser: I think you want port 80 |
| 19:09.10 | doub | Althaser: apache is bound to every interface by default, AFAIK |
| 19:09.11 | wnaLinux | actually this is a recent install |
| 19:09.27 | dabreegster | blujay: OSS worked for me, but I needed better mixing, so I grabbed alsa. Everything went smoothly. But I have had problems in the past. |
| 19:09.36 | blujay | dabreegster: you're right, I have OSS modules too with ALSA |
| 19:09.55 | dabreegster | blujay: for all I know, alsa is using the oss modules. emulation or something. |
| 19:10.18 | blujay | yeah it might |
| 19:10.24 | wnaLinux | any other ideas? |
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| 19:10.38 | blujay | wnaLinux: boot Knoppix or Windows or something and verify that the hardware works |
| 19:10.42 | dabreegster | Gotta go. Bye. |
| 19:10.44 | blujay | bye |
| 19:10.47 | wnaLinux | oh it does |
| 19:10.47 | spoof_ | !yafl |
| 19:11.00 | wnaLinux | I have used the sound on this machine many tumes |
| 19:11.01 | Althaser | blujay doub thanks :D |
| 19:11.02 | wnaLinux | times |
| 19:11.07 | blujay | np :) |
| 19:11.09 | wnaLinux | this is just a fresh install |
| 19:11.17 | rectum | irssi is the shit |
| 19:11.18 | rectum | wow |
| 19:11.24 | rectum | i just started using it recently |
| 19:11.34 | rectum | who ever recommended it, god bless you |
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| 19:11.45 | blujay | what makes it so great? |
| 19:11.50 | rectum | and may other good stuff happen to you too |
| 19:11.58 | streuner | blujay: many scripts |
| 19:12.01 | wnaLinux | bye |
| 19:12.02 | Xenguy | rectum: I found it slightly weird at first, but then grew to love it (irssi) |
| 19:12.03 | rectum | screw scripts |
| 19:12.04 | blujay | oh |
| 19:12.06 | rectum | its easy as hell |
| 19:12.16 | blujay | I like X-Chat myself... |
| 19:12.24 | timo_ | i also grew into irssi |
| 19:12.27 | rectum | yeh xchat is for people who like to point and click |
| 19:12.32 | rectum | i got out of that a while ago |
| 19:12.35 | blujay | hey I can type 95wpm :P |
| 19:12.42 | rectum | no you can't |
| 19:12.44 | blujay | can too |
| 19:12.52 | timo_ | it sure looks like you can write that |
| 19:12.54 | rectum | sure, whatever |
| 19:13.06 | Overand | how do i show the currently installed version of a package (soas to compare to the one in the repository)? |
| 19:13.07 | blujay | so because I use X-Chat, I can't type 95 wpm? |
| 19:13.08 | liable | wnaLinux: what are the channels, for my lappie with 2.6.11 I had to unmute certain extra channelle the kernel included |
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| 19:13.24 | rectum | no, I seriously doubt you can type 95wpm anyway |
| 19:13.28 | rectum | has nothing to do with xchat |
| 19:13.29 | wnaLinux | channels like in the mixer |
| 19:13.30 | wnaLinux | ? |
| 19:13.32 | blujay | why do you doubt that? |
| 19:13.37 | liable | wnaLinux: yes |
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| 19:13.40 | rectum | I don't know, I just do |
| 19:13.42 | amorphix | yay i got my mouse pointer back! |
| 19:13.44 | wnaLinux | lemme check |
| 19:13.45 | blujay | I've been using computers for many years and even took a typing class |
| 19:13.48 | Overand | blujay, rectum, why are you even discussing this? |
| 19:13.58 | blujay | Overand: why not? why are you discussing our discussing this? :) |
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| 19:14.01 | liable | amorphix: what ya do |
| 19:14.05 | debian4U2 | is anyone here using a wireless pcmia card? |
| 19:14.05 | streuner | Overand: dpkg -l package shows you the actually installed package |
| 19:14.08 | wnaLinux | volume,pcm,speaker,microphone |
| 19:14.14 | wnaLinux | cd |
| 19:14.14 | rectum | does me believing you have any affect on how fast you can actually type, this is a futile argument |
| 19:14.17 | wnaLinux | pcm-2 |
| 19:14.18 | debian4U2 | i want one that will install easily |
| 19:14.22 | blujay | LOL |
| 19:14.22 | anyone | debian4U2: no i'm not using a wireless pcmia card |
| 19:14.29 | idnar | rectum: huh? what's so unbelievable about 95wpm? |
| 19:14.31 | rectum | i don't think you can type that fast, you say you can, happy for ya, god bless irc |
| 19:14.37 | liable | wnaLinux: every single channel, usind alsamixer |
| 19:14.38 | amorphix | liable: i went thru the config again, same settings as before but disabled mouse scrolling mimicing |
| 19:14.42 | streuner | Overand: apt-cache show package shows you the version which are in the branch of debian you choosed |
| 19:14.48 | Overand | yeah |
| 19:14.49 | wnaLinux | in gain, line 1, |
| 19:14.54 | Overand | i know the apt-cache part. thanks |
| 19:14.55 | blujay | I've done tests and it said 95wpm...oh well, who cares |
| 19:14.56 | rectum | hehe |
| 19:15.00 | rectum | streuner: choosed |
| 19:15.01 | wnaLinux | oh |
| 19:15.01 | rectum | :) |
| 19:15.02 | wnaLinux | ok |
| 19:15.29 | Twisted_Emotions | where is the apt-get source file again? |
| 19:15.35 | blujay | /etc/apt |
| 19:15.36 | Overand | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:15.37 | amorphix | strangely, i noticed on exiting X that X server said the resolution i chose required 15MB of vid ram, but i only 8MB, yet the resolution has been used! |
| 19:15.45 | Twisted_Emotions | thanks |
| 19:16.36 | rectum | is it possible to fix the lcd on a laptop if it breaks, or replace it, and if so, is it expensive? |
| 19:17.03 | wnaLinux | ok here |
| 19:17.04 | DoppleGanger | yes and yes |
| 19:17.04 | pagux | in documentation it say when i select a free space it should as for whether i want to create a new partion |
| 19:17.18 | pagux | but in my case it gives me cylinder information |
| 19:17.23 | amorphix | rectum: I replaced a Toshiba Satellite Pro LCD on my laptop 3 weeks ago very cheaply |
| 19:17.31 | pagux | i have 68 gb of free space |
| 19:17.43 | liable | wnaLinux: ? |
| 19:17.46 | wnaLinux | mast,master monon,headphones,3d control(two of those), pcm, surrod |
| 19:17.59 | pagux | is it a bug or something ?? |
| 19:18.00 | wnaLinux | lfe line |
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| 19:18.04 | wnaLinux | center |
| 19:18.05 | liable | wnaLinux: is there a headphone jack sense channel |
| 19:18.06 | wnaLinux | cd |
| 19:18.18 | blujay | pagux: what are you talking about? |
| 19:18.21 | wnaLinux | in my pc? |
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| 19:18.33 | pagux | i am facing a proplem while installing debian |
| 19:18.33 | liable | wnaLinux: in alsamixer |
| 19:18.39 | blujay | pagux: how are you installing it? |
| 19:18.52 | wnaLinux | no theres just headphone |
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| 19:19.02 | pagux | i am using debian testing ...aka new installer |
| 19:19.05 | rectum | I have a dell inpiron, my professor gave it to me, cuz he can't use it, and its lcd goes out every 30 seconcs after boot, goes black, but if you hook up a monitor to it, you can use it, but, the monitor only works it the systems goes into X, (its a fedora core laptop), i booted with the debian cd, but i couldn't even see anything on console, even on the monitor I hooked up, why is that, anyone know? and any clue on how expensive it would be to tr |
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| 19:19.15 | blujay | pagux: so you're using the RC3 debian installer? |
| 19:19.22 | pagux | in partitioner I got a unparttioned free space ........I want to make a new partition but when i click on it just tells the cylinder information |
| 19:19.23 | amorphix | rectum: look on eBay for a replacement LCD or suitable compatible, or a 'spares or repair' laptop of same model and remove the LCD from it |
| 19:19.25 | wnaLinux | should I mute it? |
| 19:19.32 | anyone | rectum: no i don't |
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| 19:19.40 | pagux | but in my case it gives me cylinder information |
| 19:19.42 | streuner | !tell pagux about ig |
| 19:19.44 | liable | wnaLinux: line jack sense and headphone jack sense |
| 19:19.57 | streuner | deadcat: hi |
| 19:20.04 | deadcat | streuner: what up g. |
| 19:20.05 | wnaLinux | ? |
| 19:20.10 | wnaLinux | I dont understand |
| 19:20.14 | deadcat | just woke up (= |
| 19:20.14 | pagux | blujy: yes |
| 19:20.14 | rectum | damn |
| 19:20.18 | rectum | how many cats are there |
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| 19:20.26 | streuner | deadcat: hehe |
| 19:20.27 | rectum | there is like this dead cat, and grey cat, and some other cat |
| 19:20.27 | liable | wnaLinux: run 'alsamixer' |
| 19:20.32 | deadcat | rectum: atleast 4 |
| 19:20.34 | wnaLinux | ok im there |
| 19:20.36 | rectum | hehe |
| 19:20.40 | rectum | thats a lot of cats |
| 19:20.43 | blujay | pagux: sorry, I'd have to see your screen to help, I thik |
| 19:20.45 | deadcat | (= |
| 19:20.47 | rectum | we got any dogs |
| 19:20.55 | deadcat | rectum: we prefer the term pussies HAHAHAH |
| 19:21.01 | liable | wnaLinux: do you see a column for line jack sense and headphone jack sense |
| 19:21.03 | rectum | hey whats up deaddawg |
| 19:21.04 | slept | how is the package called with wich i can get keycodes, i know there is one i used it long time ago but i can't find it anymore with apt |
| 19:21.07 | rectum | heh |
| 19:21.09 | wnaLinux | no |
| 19:21.23 | pagux | is there anyway I can fdisk or something to partition |
| 19:21.23 | CAPSLOCK2000 | i've got a multihomed box, with 2 interfaces using dhcp, this gives me 2 default routes, I only want 1. How do I prevent dhclient from setting a default route for the second interface? |
| 19:21.36 | pagux | is there anyway I can use fdisk or something to partition |
| 19:21.39 | streuner | pagux: 'cfdisk' |
| 19:21.47 | blujay | CAPSLOCK2000: have you checked "man dhclient"? |
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| 19:21.52 | amorphix | cfdisk = fdisk on steroids? |
| 19:21.53 | CAPSLOCK2000 | yes |
| 19:21.58 | CAPSLOCK2000 | but I can't find anything usefull |
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| 19:22.09 | pagux | how ? do i run installation in expert mode or something again ??? |
| 19:22.12 | blujay | CAPSLOCK2000: ok, you might check /usr/share/doc, if not there, Google, if not there, I don't know, sorry |
| 19:22.21 | CAPSLOCK2000 | done all of that |
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| 19:22.31 | blujay | CAPSLOCK2000: debian-user@lists.debian.org? |
| 19:22.32 | perdenab_ | "my pc got hit by a power spike" "damage your disk drives?" "damage 'em? darn near rectum!" |
| 19:22.37 | deadcat | CAPSLOCK2000: you can use "up route del default gw GATEWAY" in interfaces |
| 19:22.39 | wnaLinux | liable? |
| 19:22.40 | streuner | CAPSLOCK2000: /msg dpkg dhcp client |
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| 19:22.45 | streuner | CAPSLOCK2000: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 19:22.46 | blujay | nice one, perdenab_ |
| 19:23.00 | streuner | CAPSLOCK2000: read /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/ |
| 19:23.13 | pagux | how ? do i run installation in expert mode or something again ??? |
| 19:23.15 | priest | is there any graphical dvd-burn application in woody? |
| 19:23.18 | deckrider | Hi, things are progressing nicely on my laptop install so far....I think this will be my last question: what driver is needed for my wifi hardware: 0000:06:05.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) |
| 19:23.22 | blujay | pagux: reboot |
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| 19:23.27 | liable | wnaLinux: well try muting everything but master and line |
| 19:23.29 | pipeline | priest: I don't think there's any dvd burning software of any kind in woody. |
| 19:23.33 | deadcat | deckrider: ndiswrapper |
| 19:23.39 | Paganist | How do i have an inverted grep ? i want to have everything besides lines containing an expression, i didn't see it in grep man page... ? |
| 19:23.45 | deckrider | deadcat: oh....thanks |
| 19:23.46 | liable | wnaLinux: with the <> buttons |
| 19:23.49 | bbrazil | -v |
| 19:23.50 | deadcat | deckrider: its a crappy card. you will need ndis and windows driver )= |
| 19:24.04 | wnaLinux | ok |
| 19:24.11 | Paganist | hum |
| 19:24.11 | pagux | actually its showing unsable sapace ....not free space |
| 19:24.13 | Paganist | stupid me |
| 19:24.20 | Paganist | bbrazil: yup thanks |
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| 19:25.04 | deckrider | deadcat: I had a feeling, which is why I've avoided it until last |
| 19:25.11 | deadcat | hehe |
| 19:25.37 | Twisted_Emotions | deadcat: What up man ;) |
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| 19:25.47 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: what up g. just woke up (= |
| 19:26.12 | Twisted_Emotions | deadcat: nada.. just reading bash.org.. this isht is greeeat |
| 19:26.19 | deckrider | deadcat: so I need both ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils (I forgot to say I'm on sarge) |
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| 19:26.55 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: HHAHAHA. i meant i just woke up... my script is telling me that it looks like a 60degree day. |
| 19:27.11 | deadcat | deckrider: those are debian pakages right? |
| 19:27.23 | deckrider | yes |
| 19:27.37 | deadcat | deckrider: installed module-assistant yet? |
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| 19:29.11 | Twisted_Emotions | deadcat: wow ur lazy... look outside for weather update... u dont need computer for that u script addict. |
| 19:29.14 | deckrider | deadcat: probably not....looking.....seems to be required by one of the others, so there are three installing now: module-assistant ndiswrapper-source ndiswrapper-utils |
| 19:29.21 | liable | shit sun coming up, no sleep :( |
| 19:29.28 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: hahahaha. hella lazy there for i use debian |
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| 19:29.48 | deadcat | deckrider: install those |
| 19:29.56 | Twisted_Emotions | deadcat: good deal. |
| 19:30.05 | deckrider | deadcat: done...thanks....reading the docs that came with them now |
| 19:30.24 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: i have a script that i wrote which i | xmessage -file - |
| 19:30.41 | deadcat | deckrider: no need to read. just m-a a-i ndiswrapper (= |
| 19:30.50 | deadcat | deckrider: assuming you have kernel-headers-`uname -r` |
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| 19:31.14 | deckrider | deadcat: yeah, have those somewhere (custom kernel built on a diff machine) |
| 19:31.18 | Twisted_Emotions | deadcat: huh? what the hell does it do? Send a file to someone? |
| 19:31.26 | deadcat | deckrider: even better |
| 19:31.36 | Twisted_Emotions | <i8b4uUnderground> d-_-b |
| 19:31.36 | Twisted_Emotions | <BonyNoMore> how u make that inverted b? |
| 19:31.36 | Twisted_Emotions | <BonyNoMore> wait |
| 19:31.36 | Twisted_Emotions | <BonyNoMore> never mind |
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| 19:31.49 | deckrider | deadcat: sorry, I don't know what you mean by "m-a" and "a-i" |
| 19:31.56 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: no. just displays the weather on the workspace |
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| 19:32.24 | deadcat | deckrider: m-a == module-assistant a-i == auto-install, man m-a |
| 19:32.29 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: no. just displays the weather on the workspace |
| 19:32.37 | deckrider | deadcat: oh ok, thanks |
| 19:32.40 | Twisted_Emotions | deadcat: oh ok. |
| 19:32.45 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: has been readin bash.org |
| 19:32.58 | Twisted_Emotions | liable: yup.. this isht is great. |
| 19:33.08 | Twisted_Emotions | And i got kicked for flooding |
| 19:33.13 | liable | heh |
| 19:33.16 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: http://deadcat.katzeye.com/index.php?SCREEN=hack&ID=tweather |
| 19:33.25 | Twisted_Emotions | see. thats why I dont post in #flood |
| 19:33.44 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: but #debian isnt #flood |
| 19:34.05 | Twisted_Emotions | same shit happened in #flood |
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| 19:34.20 | Twisted_Emotions | I'd prove it to you.. but dont feel like getting kicked again. |
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| 19:34.51 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: gooan you only live once go to #flood |
| 19:35.04 | deadcat | hahha |
| 19:35.25 | Twisted_Emotions | liable: remind me not to trust you with my life if I'm even in need. |
| 19:35.35 | liable | hehe |
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| 19:35.58 | liable | Twisted_Emotions: i'll piss on you if your on fire :) |
| 19:36.27 | Twisted_Emotions | liable: you would piss on my feet if my head was on fire ;) |
| 19:36.36 | liable | hah |
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| 19:38.19 | jmitch | How can I get my acpi lid switch working to actually turn off the display? I know it is being recognized, because it shows up when I run acpi_listen, but nothing happens. |
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| 19:38.37 | jmitch | Also, what is the best thing to use for cpufreq? What userspace daemon? Or should I be using the kernel only? |
| 19:38.51 | liable | jmitch: what lappie? |
| 19:38.55 | jmitch | Dell 600m |
| 19:39.35 | jmitch | acpid knows it's the lid switch, it shows up when I use acpi_listen |
| 19:39.38 | liable | jmitch: hmmm, is there actually a command to get your screen to turn off with acpi? |
| 19:40.12 | jmitch | Yeah, when you close the monitor, when it hits the lid switch |
| 19:40.12 | asg | jmitch: which video card do you have? |
| 19:40.12 | jmitch | radon 9000 64mb (m9 lf) |
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| 19:40.17 | liable | jmitch: yes acpi knows the lids been shut, but does it know what to do with it |
| 19:40.20 | jmitch | It works fine, I know it does, it's just not setup in Debian for some reason |
| 19:40.28 | jmitch | liable, Apparently not. |
| 19:40.29 | asg | jmitch: get radeontool (it might be apt-gettable now) or download and compile it |
| 19:40.39 | deadcat | jmitch: get an apple(ibook,powerbook), sleep is no problem (= |
| 19:40.44 | jmitch | It worked in fedora I think, I know I h ad it working in some linux |
| 19:40.50 | jmitch | deadcat, No thanks :P |
| 19:40.52 | liable | deadcat: pffffft |
| 19:40.58 | deadcat | hehe |
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| 19:41.24 | jmitch | asg, I don't think radeontool is what I need |
| 19:41.28 | jmitch | It has to be simpler than that |
| 19:41.46 | deadcat | when i say get apple i dont mean you use osx. (= |
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| 19:42.10 | asg | jmitch: it's what I use and I have a d600. |
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| 19:42.25 | jmitch | And it does it when you shut the lid? |
| 19:42.28 | jmitch | Do I have to script that? |
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| 19:42.38 | asg | jmitch: yes, you have to script it |
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| 19:43.02 | vmx | hi! i've a gravis gamepad pro. do i need the compile my kernel with the analog module, or is the grip module enough? |
| 19:43.58 | liable | jmitch: this is for my ati 7500, use with extreme caution '/usr/X11R6/bin/xset -display :0 dpms force standby' try it, I dare you |
| 19:45.09 | deadcat | what are some good options to use for "rec" ? |
| 19:45.38 | deadcat | cant you just xset dpms force suspend ? |
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| 19:46.42 | dip | anyone know of any good pic ide controllers ? |
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| 19:47.32 | Lab_Mouse | Hello |
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| 19:48.20 | Lab_Mouse | Can anyone tell me how can i install Debian Sarge ? I consider myself familiar with linux but it is the second time i try and cannot do it |
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| 19:48.42 | deadcat | !tell Lab_Mouse about d-i |
| 19:48.42 | Lab_Mouse | I have burned the 2 jigdo downloaded dvd images and when i try to boot i get kernel panic because |
| 19:48.44 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: and what is the problem? |
| 19:48.51 | streuner | !tell Lab_Mouse about ig |
| 19:48.53 | liable | jmitch: did ya try it? |
| 19:48.54 | Lab_Mouse | it cannot open an initial console |
| 19:49.03 | deadcat | Lab_Mouse: you just want to download the debian netinstaller. like 45MB. and boot itup |
| 19:49.08 | deadcat | !ig |
| 19:49.08 | dpkg | ig is, like, for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 19:49.24 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: these images are generated weekly, automatically, im not sure they are guaranteed to work for anyone |
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| 19:49.34 | Lab_Mouse | deadcat: i download the images from my university |
| 19:49.42 | Lab_Mouse | i dont have a hi speed connection at home |
| 19:49.49 | streuner | images? |
| 19:49.55 | deadcat | Lab_Mouse: damn. |
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| 19:50.00 | EvanCarroll | If you use PCI-Xpress do you need agpgart? |
| 19:50.01 | streuner | so you got woody? |
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| 19:50.20 | Lab_Mouse | am i allowed to paste a url in here ? |
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| 19:50.32 | streuner | of course |
| 19:50.34 | Lab_Mouse | http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/jigdo-area/i386/ |
| 19:50.45 | Lab_Mouse | these are the jigdo templates i got for sarge |
| 19:50.57 | Lab_Mouse | only when i got them yesterday they were dates 19-04 |
| 19:50.59 | valdyn | !d-i Lab_Mouse |
| 19:51.00 | dpkg | Lab_Mouse, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 19:51.32 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: try the netinstall, you could still use those dvd as source for packages |
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| 19:51.59 | deadcat | Lab_Mouse: you have a laptop? |
| 19:52.11 | Lab_Mouse | xm i didn't notice there was a rc3 installer |
| 19:52.11 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: what you can do now already ( if you havent ), is to use the linux26 image to boot off your dvd |
| 19:52.29 | Lab_Mouse | i will try what the linux26 image and if not |
| 19:52.33 | Lab_Mouse | i will try the netinstall |
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| 19:53.00 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: and use the rc3. not weekly image, those may work, or may not, i dont know |
| 19:53.15 | Lab_Mouse | ok thanks very much for the information |
| 19:53.18 | Lab_Mouse | i will try it |
| 19:53.37 | Lab_Mouse | i had tried the rc2 which worked fine in my univ but at home the kernel couldn't recognise |
| 19:53.51 | Lab_Mouse | the hardware that is why i try the weekly image |
| 19:54.07 | streuner | Lab_Mouse: what CPU do you have at home? |
| 19:54.18 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: ok - weekly wont provide a "better" kernel but they all do provide linux26 as alternative |
| 19:55.03 | Lab_Mouse | valdyn: yes but the kernels used by rc2 didn't recognise my ahci sata controller |
| 19:55.21 | Lab_Mouse | streuner: a p4-3ghz lga775 |
| 19:55.30 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: try the linux26 on it.. |
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| 19:55.40 | Lab_Mouse | yes i will try that |
| 19:55.52 | streuner | Lab_Mouse: what sata-controller is that? |
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| 19:55.56 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: 2.6 kernels have better sata support generally, no idea about that specific one |
| 19:56.22 | Lab_Mouse | valdyn the grub loader show only 2.4.x image. i guess if i try manually i will find the image |
| 19:56.26 | Twisted_Emotions | hahah have you guys all read bash.org? |
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| 19:56.29 | Twisted_Emotions | this shit is great. |
| 19:56.30 | Lab_Mouse | streuner: ICH6R |
| 19:56.31 | Twisted_Emotions | <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad. |
| 19:56.39 | gpoint | guys |
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| 19:57.02 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: linux26 does just that, install and use a 2.6 kernel |
| 19:57.08 | Lab_Mouse | EvanCarroll: what graphics card do you have ? |
| 19:57.11 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: read the top 100 (= |
| 19:57.19 | EvanCarroll | nvidia |
| 19:57.31 | EvanCarroll | Lab_Mouse: nvidia 6600 |
| 19:57.33 | Lab_Mouse | EvanCarroll: agpgart is needed for some chipsets i think |
| 19:57.34 | deadcat | !nvidia-oneliner |
| 19:57.38 | Lab_Mouse | i have a pci express nvidia |
| 19:57.42 | Lab_Mouse | on intel chipset |
| 19:57.46 | Lab_Mouse | and don't use agpgart at all |
| 19:57.56 | gpoint | guys, when i start gnome i get a dialog box, saying "/etc/hosts" file doesnt exist or is corrupted. the file is there. does anyone know what it could be? |
| 19:57.57 | Twisted_Emotions | deadcat: reading the top 100 now. |
| 19:57.59 | Lab_Mouse | it works either with the native X "nv" drivers |
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| 19:58.04 | Lab_Mouse | or the binary nvidia "nvidia ones |
| 19:58.19 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: looks to me like no debian installer supports your sata chipset |
| 19:58.19 | deadcat | gpoint: no. but you can edit /etc/hosts and find out |
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| 19:58.24 | rafx | package maintainer requested help 126 days ago for this...voluteer appreciated (simply need to build, package is done): http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=285361 |
| 19:58.43 | gpoint | deadcat, well.. where can i get intel about its format and contents? |
| 19:58.51 | Lab_Mouse | valdyn: :( i will nevertheless try it and see |
| 19:58.55 | deadcat | gpoint: man 5 hosts |
| 19:58.58 | Lab_Mouse | thanks for all your info |
| 19:59.03 | gpoint | deadcat, thx |
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| 19:59.05 | liable | gpoint: theres generally not much in there to fuck up |
| 19:59.07 | deadcat | gpoint: and look for example |
| 19:59.14 | gpoint | ok |
| 19:59.20 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: it was added to mainline at 2.6.9 or 2.6.10 |
| 19:59.28 | Lab_Mouse | yes |
| 19:59.41 | Lab_Mouse | 2.6.9-ac alan cox patchset |
| 19:59.43 | deadcat | ya /etc/hosts usually just your loopback |
| 19:59.45 | Lab_Mouse | or 2.6.10rc2 |
| 20:00.24 | valdyn | Lab_Mouse: debian installers use 2.6.8 |
| 20:00.30 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: what classes you taking at dvc? |
| 20:00.55 | streuner | valdyn: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/12/msg00501.html |
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| 20:02.06 | rindolf | Hi all |
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| 20:03.15 | valdyn | streuner: intel ich6 == ahci ? |
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| 20:03.24 | valdyn | streuner: or what is that link supposed to tell me? |
| 20:03.48 | Lab_Mouse | you can work it either in ide emulation mode |
| 20:03.51 | Lab_Mouse | or in ahci mode |
| 20:04.07 | streuner | valdyn: "I encountered other issues when I tried the RC1 version on the same |
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| 20:04.08 | streuner | computer. The SATA hard drives were not recognized so I wasn't able to |
| 20:04.08 | streuner | create any partition. |
| 20:04.08 | Lab_Mouse | but the ich6r has something different |
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| 20:05.12 | streuner | Lab_Mouse: /j #debian-boot |
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| 20:05.35 | Lab_Mouse | thank you streuner |
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| 20:06.05 | dimm0k | V2C6U-C0T5I-Y300R-E708M |
| 20:06.24 | aninha | can someone please help me |
| 20:06.38 | bucky | dimm0k, what's that? |
| 20:06.46 | aninha | i installed firestarter and configured the internet sharing |
| 20:06.50 | kvn | It's the license key to Debian Professional |
| 20:06.57 | aninha | but the host isnt able to connect |
| 20:07.00 | deadcat | kvn: hahah |
| 20:07.21 | deadcat | kvn: hes pirating in #debian? |
| 20:07.23 | Lab_Mouse | ;) |
| 20:07.32 | valdyn | aninha: did you set the gateway on your "host" ? |
| 20:07.40 | SuperSox | hey, I'm probably just being dense, but following these instructions: http://www.crazygreek.co.uk/content/vodagprs, I'm getting an error back from pppd saying it can't find a suitable password, using no-auth just causes it fail without error, any suggestions on what I've missed out? |
| 20:07.42 | kvn | deadcat: Well it's OK to steal from the big corporations like the ones that make Debian |
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| 20:08.54 | kvn | I personally can't wait for Debian Server 8.0. |
| 20:09.08 | amphi | kvn: enterprise-ready? |
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| 20:09.20 | kvn | It's [insertBuzz]-ready! |
| 20:09.33 | hussam | hi, I'm using ubuntu, I wanna add some debian repositories? are those it ? |
| 20:09.34 | hussam | debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
| 20:09.35 | hussam | deb-srchttp://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
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| 20:09.43 | LunarCrisis | Can anyone point me somewhere to learn how to write usb joystick drivers for debian? |
| 20:09.53 | valdyn | hussam: /j #ubuntu |
| 20:10.00 | kvn | hussam, is that wise? |
| 20:10.03 | gravity | hussam: Yes, those are Debian sources |
| 20:10.04 | Ronin | hussam: why not run debian and use debian sources |
| 20:10.09 | gravity | LunarCrisis: Probably Robert M Love's book |
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| 20:10.24 | deadcat | Ronin: i bet his ass he wants xorg (= |
| 20:10.29 | valdyn | LunarCrisis: www.kernelnewbies.org |
| 20:10.32 | LunarCrisis | I can od it and figure out what the signals mean, I just need to know how to build it into the system |
| 20:10.38 | LunarCrisis | alright, thanks guys ^^ |
| 20:10.58 | Ronin | deadcat: most likely |
| 20:10.58 | slept | hussam you don't want theese , you migt be looking for nerim |
| 20:11.31 | shingouz | SuperSox: ummm... you use straight pppd then, not wvdial at all? |
| 20:11.40 | hussam | slept: ok I'll look up nerim |
| 20:12.00 | SuperSox | shingouz: yeah just using straight pppd |
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| 20:12.50 | MidgetSpy | does sid have to be installed by dl'ing from the internet as you install since there are no iso's? |
| 20:12.56 | shingouz | SuperSox: wvdial is a hell of a lot easier to set up you know.... just plug in the card and install wvdial. one file to hack if you need to hack anything |
| 20:13.01 | gravity | MidgetSpy: Yes |
| 20:13.12 | MidgetSpy | thanks gravity |
| 20:13.12 | deadcat | MidgetSpy: you can use the d-i and expert26 during bootup |
| 20:13.16 | valdyn | MidgetSpy: there are isos, but its somewhat pointless |
| 20:13.45 | SuperSox | shingouz: I suppose i could give it a try |
| 20:13.47 | SuperSox | w/dinwo 6 |
| 20:13.50 | deadcat | MidgetSpy: expert26 allows you to select testing/unstable |
| 20:14.36 | shingouz | SuperSox: i am going to get some caffeine and pollute the air for a while, back in about ten |
| 20:14.44 | Lab_Mouse | streuner and valdyn thank you for your info. i downloaded the d-i rc3 netinst and am rebooting to try it. thanks again |
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| 20:15.02 | SuperSox | shingouz: okie :) |
| 20:15.08 | streuner | Lab_Mouse: ask in #debian-boot before you download the isos |
| 20:15.14 | streuner | bah |
| 20:15.27 | liable | SuperSox: wvdial, if you have to use dial-up, is without a doubt the best thing for it |
| 20:15.54 | SuperSox | liable: its for a gprs card |
| 20:16.04 | Twisted_Emotions | #sanctuary |
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| 20:16.10 | SuperSox | so its not strictly dialup |
| 20:16.32 | liable | SuperSox: gprs? |
| 20:16.44 | MidgetSpy | deadcat: so I can just run d-i off a floppy and choose expert26 to start the sid install? |
| 20:16.47 | SuperSox | liable: yeah, can't remember exactly what it stands for |
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| 20:17.00 | liable | SuperSox: winmodem thingo? |
| 20:17.07 | deadcat | MidgetSpy: no clue abot floppy. but you can with the netinstall cd |
| 20:17.07 | SuperSox | liable: nopers |
| 20:17.20 | SuperSox | liable: GPRS is normally for mobile phones |
| 20:17.27 | MidgetSpy | deadcat: ok, thanks |
| 20:17.37 | liable | SuperSox: ohhh, well, dunno then |
| 20:17.54 | SuperSox | liable: basically it allows me to get an internet connection anywhere I have a phone reception ;) |
| 20:17.55 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: you gonna go linuxworldexpo this aug at moscone center in sf? |
| 20:18.12 | SuperSox | liable: well, I'll give wvdial a shot anyway |
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| 20:18.20 | liable | SuperSox: sweet, ir it works on linux, is it a pcmcia card? |
| 20:18.22 | romulo | where i can find some help about /etc/apt/preferences file? |
| 20:18.41 | streuner | romulo: why do you think you need that? |
| 20:19.20 | bucky | deadcat, is the moscone center near the PPIE |
| 20:19.36 | deadcat | bucky: ppie? |
| 20:19.37 | romulo | streuner, saw in a tutorial |
| 20:19.40 | bucky | Panama-Pacific Exposition |
| 20:19.42 | romulo | =P |
| 20:19.43 | romulo | see |
| 20:19.44 | romulo | * |
| 20:19.53 | SuperSox | liable: yeah its a pcmcia card, I'm going to write up on how to get it working once I've finished it, because the information is a bit far and few between |
| 20:19.54 | deadcat | bucky: is that in san francisco? |
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| 20:19.56 | SuperSox | brb |
| 20:19.57 | MegaByte | Hey |
| 20:20.10 | MegaByte | does anyone know how do I add a repository to apt? |
| 20:20.12 | bucky | deadcat, yep.. i don't know what you call it tho |
| 20:20.15 | liable | SuperSox: good luck |
| 20:20.33 | MegaByte | And I also need to configure my keyboard... it didn`t configure to br-abnt2 properly |
| 20:20.41 | deadcat | bucky: its near montgomery bart station. near the sony center. |
| 20:20.44 | streuner | MegaByte: aren't the sources.list (official sources) not good enough? |
| 20:21.08 | streuner | MegaByte: what version of debian do you use? |
| 20:21.08 | deadcat | bucky: actually powell station. |
| 20:21.14 | MegaByte | streuner, sarge |
| 20:21.22 | poli | MegaByte, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and follow the other lines. |
| 20:21.23 | bucky | i guess it's just called the Expo Museum now |
| 20:21.25 | MegaByte | streuner, it`s the most corrent |
| 20:21.29 | si|vercat | how do I make a windows-bootable floppy? |
| 20:21.37 | DoppleGanger | si|vercat: #windows |
| 20:21.51 | streuner | MegaByte: so why do you think you need to addanother source? |
| 20:21.53 | si|vercat | stupid bios-upgrade crap.. |
| 20:21.57 | abrotman | what a strange little moron kawfee is |
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| 20:22.08 | streuner | abrotman: why? |
| 20:22.14 | deadcat | bucky: no clue about that. i rarely go to downtown, i lived in sf for 13 years and rarely go there. (= |
| 20:22.20 | abrotman | streuner: /lastlog abrotman |
| 20:22.21 | streuner | abrotman: the flooder were somebody from .in |
| 20:22.31 | MegaByte | streuner, because none is set into my sources.list |
| 20:22.33 | poli | DoppleGanger, you do need a windows OS to copy the boot files to the floppy, sorry. :( |
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| 20:22.39 | abrotman | streuner: erm .. ok .. if you say so |
| 20:22.41 | ruipb | hello all |
| 20:22.42 | valdyn | MegaByte: run apt-setup |
| 20:22.47 | bucky | deadcat, http://expomuseum.com/1915sf/ |
| 20:22.49 | AirWays | How I can update my Debian? |
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| 20:22.50 | DoppleGanger | thanks poli i think |
| 20:22.51 | streuner | MegaByte: apt-setup |
| 20:22.52 | DoppleGanger | he eh |
| 20:22.58 | deadcat | AirWays: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 20:23.02 | AirWays | But |
| 20:23.03 | poli | Doomgaze, sorry... :) |
| 20:23.06 | madclicker | ahoy |
| 20:23.11 | poli | OH! I hate this auto completion! |
| 20:23.11 | AirWays | It says something as: There is 0 packages etc.. |
| 20:23.26 | gravity | AirWays: Sounds like you're up to date |
| 20:23.28 | poli | From now on I will just leave the first 2 letters... ;) |
| 20:23.31 | Twisted_Emotions | <Raven> I tried setting my hotmail password to penis. |
| 20:23.31 | Twisted_Emotions | <Raven> It said my password wasn't long enough. :( |
| 20:23.35 | streuner | gravity: hehe |
| 20:23.36 | MegaByte | streuner, thanks, apt-setup works :) |
| 20:23.42 | valdyn | AirWays: run apt-setup, then try again |
| 20:23.45 | ruipb | lol Raven |
| 20:23.49 | AirWays | Okay |
| 20:23.53 | deadcat | bucky: no. thats the marina district, pretty far from downtown. |
| 20:23.56 | bucky | AirWays, what are you running woody or sarge ? |
| 20:23.56 | Twisted_Emotions | thats shit is funny. |
| 20:24.06 | bucky | deadcat, ic |
| 20:24.12 | deadcat | Twisted_Emotions: HAHAHA |
| 20:24.18 | AirWays | Run command not found =) |
| 20:24.18 | streuner | abrotman: i just joined maybe 20 minutes ago... |
| 20:24.24 | AirWays | bucky: I dont know =) |
| 20:24.30 | abrotman | oh |
| 20:24.30 | AirWays | That is some small version |
| 20:24.39 | AirWays | I'm beginener |
| 20:24.50 | bucky | you might look into that |
| 20:24.55 | valdyn | AirWays: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:24.56 | deadcat | bucky: this year i am gonna go as "neverland ranch security guard" as my job title on my card (= |
| 20:25.00 | deadcat | ^card^badge |
| 20:25.01 | AirWays | Okay |
| 20:25.22 | AirWays | 3.0 |
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| 20:25.28 | streuner | deadcat: we expect some pictures ;-) |
| 20:25.38 | liable | eeeeew |
| 20:25.53 | valdyn | AirWays: looks to me like things are ok, not like 3.0 ever gets many updates |
| 20:25.57 | deadcat | streuner: hell ya (=. i am thinking of some good one. last year i hump/grap the tux's ass. scratched my ass infront of a presentation. (= |
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| 20:26.12 | AirWays | Well, I just want to install irssi to it |
| 20:26.15 | AirWays | What I should do? |
| 20:26.16 | Henryk | WTF? "bash: less: command not found" |
| 20:26.23 | deadcat | Henryk: install less |
| 20:26.26 | valdyn | AirWays: apt-get install irssi-text |
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| 20:26.27 | AirWays | No no no |
| 20:26.27 | deadcat | AirWays: install irssi-text |
| 20:26.34 | AirWays | I mean, SSH that thing |
| 20:26.44 | bucky | AirWays, you're running woody fyi |
| 20:26.46 | AirWays | That i can connect from this computer to that debian computer |
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| 20:26.57 | madclicker | how can i boot debian cd in "rescue mode"? |
| 20:26.59 | Henryk | deadcat: yes, sure. However, I think I've never seen a linux distribution that didn't have less in the base install |
| 20:27.08 | deadcat | madclicker: boot up . press f3 |
| 20:27.12 | valdyn | AirWays: ps aux | grep sshd |
| 20:27.19 | deadcat | Henryk: debian dont |
| 20:27.20 | AirWays | Okay... |
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| 20:28.00 | grendal_prime | anhyone using kqemu? |
| 20:28.00 | grendal_prime | thats qemu with the accelerator |
| 20:28.00 | deadcat | grendal_prime: no. thats the accel? |
| 20:28.01 | thingfish | use it? who can pronounce it! |
| 20:28.01 | deadcat | hahah |
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| 20:28.05 | grendal_prime | its compiled via cvs |
| 20:28.11 | grendal_prime | deadcat, correct... |
| 20:28.25 | liable | madclicker: press f1 for options or f2 or type linux-rescue? |
| 20:28.28 | deadcat | grendal_prime: hows it working for ya? |
| 20:28.32 | grendal_prime | i cant for some reason get the kernel module to compile..or install or something..its just not there |
| 20:28.38 | madclicker | deadcat: there is no rescue mode |
| 20:28.41 | grendal_prime | the regular qemu works fine |
| 20:28.41 | AirWays | What about those text which returns from these ps aux | grep sshd |
| 20:28.42 | deadcat | grendal_prime: you using stock kernel? |
| 20:28.51 | madclicker | liable: thx a bunch |
| 20:28.54 | grendal_prime | stock deb kernel...ya |
| 20:29.00 | deadcat | AirWays: dpkg -l ssh |
| 20:29.00 | valdyn | AirWays: it tells you if sshd is running |
| 20:29.14 | AirWays | There was two lines text: :P |
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| 20:29.23 | deadcat | grendal_prime: you either need the kernel-headers-`uname -r` or compile your own kernel qemu and kqemu |
| 20:29.23 | valdyn | AirWays: then its running |
| 20:29.43 | AirWays | HJmm |
| 20:29.50 | valdyn | AirWays: first has /usr/sbin/sshd in it, 2nd is just your grep command |
| 20:29.53 | AirWays | I cant return my host because ifconfig wont work |
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| 20:30.07 | deadcat | AirWays: if it doesnt work. you have been rooted. |
| 20:30.09 | madclicker | liable: "can not find image: linux-rescue |
| 20:30.24 | valdyn | !faq Airways |
| 20:30.25 | dpkg | Airways: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 20:30.25 | liable | madclicker: f1 or f2 |
| 20:30.29 | deadcat | madclicker: linux-rescue root=/dev/hdaX ? |
| 20:30.36 | AirWays | Well it says as: "bash: ifconfg - command not found" |
| 20:30.37 | liable | madclicker: its there somewhere |
| 20:30.38 | MegaByte | Hey, how can I set my keyboard to br-abnt2? It wasn`t properly set |
| 20:30.47 | deadcat | MegaByte: x or console? |
| 20:30.49 | valdyn | AirWays: do it as root |
| 20:30.54 | streuner | !keymap |
| 20:30.54 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev |
| 20:31.00 | MegaByte | deadcat, both |
| 20:31.09 | deadcat | streuner: oh girl (= |
| 20:31.10 | valdyn | AirWays: as root, run /sbin/ifconfig |
| 20:31.17 | grendal_prime | ya i have the kernel headders installed |
| 20:31.18 | AirWays | Ookay |
| 20:31.35 | deadcat | bucky: you live in the bay area too? |
| 20:31.45 | AirWays | Damn |
| 20:31.48 | AirWays | That cant be my IP |
| 20:31.50 | madclicker | deadcat: nogo |
| 20:31.53 | AirWays | 127.0.0.1 :P |
| 20:31.59 | Lufomir | checked http://www.hugon.7u.pl |
| 20:32.10 | streuner | deadcat: :-P |
| 20:32.12 | grendal_prime | man i think the boy done droped a load in his diaper |
| 20:32.13 | deadcat | madclicker: f3 f2 and read the text maybe. i know it works. |
| 20:32.16 | valdyn | AirWays: that _is_ your ip, on your loopback device ( lo ) |
| 20:32.25 | grendal_prime | deadcat, ill brb |
| 20:32.35 | AirWays | Hmm |
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| 20:32.54 | grendal_prime | ya the son needs a new diaper... |
| 20:33.20 | madclicker | deadcat: i have sarge bootdisk but there are no options for rescue only install :( |
| 20:33.33 | Teemu_ | wtf is that "scrub" rule? |
| 20:33.40 | deadcat | madclicker: you have the netinstall? i think it only has it in the full disk |
| 20:33.58 | AirWays | hm |
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| 20:34.25 | grendal_prime | hey....how do i go about compleatly uninstalling something that was compiled by had...i did compile it pre...installing the source code...i did make clean and then redid make make install..but seems to have made no difference |
| 20:34.30 | madclicker | deadcat: yeap and i need to fix grub to boot |
| 20:34.40 | deadcat | grendal_prime: make uninstall ? |
| 20:34.42 | bucky | deadcat, no... i've been there one time.. to go to Mercury University in Hayward |
| 20:34.54 | grendal_prime | cool thanks |
| 20:34.59 | deadcat | bucky: ah. |
| 20:35.05 | dondelelcaro | grendal_prime: good luck. usually you'll end up using lots of rm -f |
| 20:35.07 | valdyn | grendal_prime: make install or use checkinstall and purge the package after installing it w/ checkinstall |
| 20:35.13 | valdyn | grendal_prime: make uninstall or use checkinstall and purge the package after installing it w/ checkinstall |
| 20:35.25 | liable | madclicker: boot and then chroot and install |
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| 20:35.34 | EvanCarroll | is there anyway to view the whole package name through dpkg it gets truncated because the column setup like with dpkg-l but such that only the package name is displayed |
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| 20:35.50 | AirWays | apt-get install irssi-text <-- that says as no packages found |
| 20:35.51 | deadcat | EvanCarroll: COLUMNS=222 dpkg -l |
| 20:35.53 | valdyn | EvanCarroll: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |
| 20:36.00 | madclicker | liable: boot how? |
| 20:36.04 | valdyn | !info irssi-text woody |
| 20:36.07 | dpkg | irssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-3.1 (woody), Packaged size: 678 kB, Installed size: 2224 kB |
| 20:36.12 | deadcat | valdyn: i can tell that i am lazier than you (= |
| 20:36.18 | liable | madclicker: ignore me, I'm drunk |
| 20:36.32 | madclicker | liable: eheheh |
| 20:36.37 | valdyn | !win deadcat |
| 20:36.37 | dpkg | Congratulations, deadcat! You have won a one way ticket to Nova Scotia! |
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| 20:36.51 | deadcat | one way? |
| 20:36.51 | streuner | !win me |
| 20:36.52 | dpkg | Congratulations, streuner! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 20:36.58 | streuner | haha |
| 20:37.02 | Lufomir | checked http://www.hugon.7u.pl |
| 20:37.03 | deadcat | atleast not a oneway to iraq (= |
| 20:37.04 | thingfish | wah, I want a one-way ticket to Nova Scotia. |
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| 20:37.18 | streuner | deadcat: one way is one way, anyway ;-) |
| 20:37.22 | liable | madclicker: no boot options at all? |
| 20:37.42 | thingfish | I would prefer a ticket to Vancouver, but Nova Scotia would be at least Canada. |
| 20:37.46 | yewtree | when I do "apt-get install whatever" in a debian derivative distro (like say feather or knoppix), am I getting the stable, tested, or unstable packages? |
| 20:38.01 | madclicker | liable: am trying expet26 and than shell....it gives me ash |
| 20:38.01 | dondelelcaro | yewtree: your guess is as good as ours. |
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| 20:38.18 | dondelelcaro | yewtree: apt-cache policy; should tell you either way, though. |
| 20:38.23 | AirWays | valdyn: But it says there is no packages as: irssi-text |
| 20:38.25 | deadcat | yewtree: ask in feather or knoppix |
| 20:38.30 | yewtree | ok ok |
| 20:38.36 | deadcat | do we have a lynch factoid? |
| 20:38.42 | valdyn | AirWays: echo "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian woody main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 20:38.45 | liable | madclicker: ok, mount your existing linux, chroot and re-install grub |
| 20:38.49 | streuner | !listkeys lynch |
| 20:38.51 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'lynch' by key (1): david lynch. |
| 20:39.01 | deadcat | who the f |
| 20:39.06 | valdyn | AirWays: use cut and paste to execute that command ) |
| 20:39.25 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's a totally useless factoid |
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| 20:40.50 | deadcat | is it "neverland ranch security guard" or "neverland security guard" ? |
| 20:40.51 | valdyn | AirWays: after that: run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get install irssi-text' |
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| 20:41.10 | madclicker | liable: can't, i can not mount /dev/sdaX or /dev/sdbX, i guess i would have to load modules and i dont know which ones ....:( |
| 20:41.20 | liable | madclicker: you have a knoppix cd, *much* easier |
| 20:42.07 | liable | madclicker: scsi hdd |
| 20:42.11 | madclicker | liable: nope, i guess ill use fedora or mandrake. |
| 20:42.17 | madclicker | liable: SATA |
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| 20:42.25 | nomed^ | hi |
| 20:42.59 | streuner | madclicker: what SATA-controller do you have? |
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| 20:43.49 | madclicker | streuner: intel 925x |
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| 20:45.34 | nomed^ | i'm trying a cross-compilation for a package .. everything it's ok .. but i've some problems with ld .. |
| 20:45.53 | nomed^ | is there someone that can help me on this? |
| 20:46.24 | deadcat | doubt it |
| 20:46.35 | streuner | madclicker: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg38182.html |
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| 20:48.24 | madclicker | streuner: i only have console on a mandrake unit..., am on BitchX |
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| 20:48.43 | kvn | madclicker, try links |
| 20:49.08 | streuner | madclicker: or links |
| 20:49.11 | liable | madclicker: ls /dev/sda1 then what do ya get |
| 20:49.15 | streuner | madclicker: or lynx |
| 20:49.59 | madclicker | liable: nada, i think the disks are under /dev/scsi/hostX and so on, ill try that |
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| 20:50.31 | Vegar | I found a file in / |
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| 20:50.34 | Vegar | core.310 |
| 20:50.41 | Vegar | anyone know what that is? |
| 20:51.03 | Vegar | file: /core.310: ELF 32-bit LSB core file Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style, SVR4-style, from 'lwresd' |
| 20:51.07 | SuperSox | I'm having problems with ppp, I'm following these instructions http://www.crazygreek.co.uk/content/vodagprs but it moans about a password, if I use noauth it fails without error, any suggestions? |
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| 20:51.35 | liable | madclicker: hmm /dev/discs/disc0? |
| 20:52.22 | Teemu_ | what that damn scrub rule is and where I can disable it >:I |
| 20:52.54 | liable | madclicker: heh, thats it /host0/bus0/target0/luno/partx |
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| 20:53.50 | madclicker | liable: not mounting |
| 20:53.56 | liable | s/luno/lun0 |
| 20:54.20 | shingouz | SuperSox: got it working? |
| 20:54.22 | liable | madclicker: whats the command |
| 20:54.32 | SuperSox | shingouz: nope! :) |
| 20:54.46 | cusco | configure: error: You need libpng to compile Armagetron. |
| 20:54.49 | cusco | what do I need? |
| 20:54.58 | madclicker | mount /dev/scsi/..... /mnt |
| 20:54.58 | SuperSox | shingouz: from what I've been checking out, I can't suss why either heh |
| 20:54.59 | cusco | I instaled libpng3 |
| 20:55.04 | shingouz | SuperSox: k.. let's see. i'll open up the config here and see what mine looks like |
| 20:55.19 | SuperSox | shingouz: I think its a pap-secrets issue |
| 20:55.36 | deckrider | deadcat: well I think the ndiswrapper/wifi stuff is all working....worked real easy, but I took a long time because I wanted to know what I was doing :) thanks! |
| 20:55.42 | shingouz | SuperSox: first of all, do you need a user/pass to connect to the service? |
| 20:55.43 | liable | madclicker: did you mkdir /mnt/blah to mount it on |
| 20:55.54 | SuperSox | shingouz: yes, its either web/web or vodafone/vodafone |
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| 20:56.19 | pagux | debian installer sucks !! |
| 20:56.23 | madclicker | liable: yeap |
| 20:56.28 | deadcat | deckrider: damn thats a loong time (=.. cool that you find it easy. hehe. usually ndiswrapper is stupid cus you have to load that shit first. |
| 20:56.40 | deadcat | pagux: it sure does. |
| 20:56.42 | liable | madclicker: whats the error |
| 20:56.43 | SuperSox | pagux: try telline people who care. |
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| 20:56.58 | streuner | pagux: which one? |
| 20:57.09 | madclicker | something about file doesnt exist |
| 20:57.10 | Teemu_ | so everyone have done /ignore teemu_ |
| 20:57.11 | Teemu_ | :I |
| 20:57.12 | shingouz | SuperSox: k. lets go through the wvdial.conf first. can you paste it in #fllod? |
| 20:57.14 | gravity | pagux: Fix it |
| 20:57.16 | shingouz | #flood even |
| 20:57.17 | pagux | so called new debian instaler |
| 20:57.28 | SuperSox | shingouz: yeah |
| 20:57.35 | gravity | pagux: Fix it and stop trolling |
| 20:57.36 | dondelelcaro | pagux: care to elaborate? |
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| 20:57.47 | kvn | and install ispell. |
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| 20:58.02 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: no need. he cant get it to install (= |
| 20:58.12 | pagux | I am not able to create parttitions is not showing my partitions |
| 20:58.36 | dondelelcaro | pagux: so drop to a console and run fdisk to see what is going on with your drive. |
| 20:58.47 | kvn | I'm sure they released a version of the installer which can't create partitions. |
| 20:58.50 | pagux | when i issue cfdisk its says Cannot open disk |
| 20:58.54 | SuperSox | shingouz: pasted |
| 20:59.14 | shingouz | SuperSox: first of all, does your /dev/modem point to the correct serial port? |
| 20:59.21 | SuperSox | shingouz: yep |
| 20:59.30 | pagux | i have created parttions ith fdisk |
| 20:59.31 | dondelelcaro | pagux: uh, fdisk will certainly give you a much more useful error message than that. |
| 20:59.48 | Nwallins | i am having trouble with dnsmasq. i am using it to set hostnames for local ips on my lan. these are defined in /etc/hosts I have set the dns server for my os x box to the debian box running dnsmasq, but the osx box doesn't know the hostnames |
| 20:59.59 | shingouz | SuperSox: and when you try to make it connect, what do you get out of it? |
| 21:00.10 | SuperSox | with wvdial... see #flood |
| 21:00.22 | shingouz | k |
| 21:00.48 | pagux | i have created parttions but installer doesnt shows it ...how to install |
| 21:00.58 | SuperSox | shingouz: pasted |
| 21:01.02 | pagux | I have redhat installation on same disk |
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| 21:01.15 | streuner | pagux: SATA? |
| 21:01.15 | nomed^ | in a Makefile i've LIBS=-lkudzu -lpci .. and it searches in /usr/bin/ld .. i would define a different path .. how can i do that? |
| 21:01.19 | dondelelcaro | pagux: if you've made the partitions, and you can see them in fdisk, skip the partitioning stage, and mount the drives. |
| 21:01.31 | deadcat | i have modprobe modprobe.Lmodutils and modprobe.modutils, i know one or two are for 2.4 kernels. can i remove that packages? i dont use 2.4 anymore. |
| 21:01.32 | pagux | no 120 gb ata |
| 21:02.34 | shingouz | SuperSox: looks like there is something else i missed. you need to tell the modem to use a couple of extra parameters. lemmesee.. |
| 21:02.36 | streuner | deadcat: just leave those package on your system |
| 21:02.41 | deadcat | k |
| 21:02.58 | streuner | deadcat: in case you need to run every an 2.4.x kernel... |
| 21:02.58 | pagux | dondelelcaro: ok ...pl elobrate ... I am new to debian |
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| 21:03.19 | Nwallins | does resolvconf supersede the contents of /etc/resolv.conf? i can't find any documentation for resolvconf |
| 21:03.21 | SuperSox | shingouz: http://www.crazygreek.co.uk/content/vodagprs these are what the pppd settings should look like if that helps any |
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| 21:03.54 | JeffWilson12 | What is the package for User Mode Linux? The user-mode-linux is griping at me. |
| 21:03.56 | shingouz | SuperSox: i believe this Phone = *99***# should look like *99***1# instead |
| 21:04.07 | Teemu_ | what that damn scrub rule is and where I can disable it >:I |
| 21:04.19 | mindframe | how the heck do i get the binary named "php" installed? |
| 21:04.26 | SuperSox | shingouz: same error |
| 21:04.33 | Nwallins | apt-get install php4 methinks |
| 21:04.33 | deadcat | Teemu_: no one know what the f you talking about. |
| 21:04.46 | mindframe | Nwallins: got that already, no php |
| 21:04.48 | shingouz | SuperSox: and add Init3 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"<conntype>","<parameter>" |
| 21:04.49 | deadcat | mindframe: woody or the other 2? |
| 21:04.55 | mindframe | deadcat: testing |
| 21:05.02 | deadcat | mindframe: php4-cli |
| 21:05.04 | Henryk | what do i have to do to get a 2.6 series kernel with debian stable? |
| 21:05.05 | mindframe | ty |
| 21:05.10 | shingouz | SuperSox: i have to use AT+CGDCONT=1,"ip","internet" here |
| 21:05.17 | deadcat | Henryk: compile your own. |
| 21:05.23 | streuner | Henryk: headaches |
| 21:05.38 | streuner | Henryk: you will get big headaches |
| 21:05.43 | Teemu_ | deadcat: well, problem is, when I try to edit some files at nfs mount, that edit hangs.. I read that hang comes when something "IIRC" have changed scrub rules, |
| 21:05.48 | SuperSox | shingouz: yeah I was just looking through that pppd conf and thinking the sme thing, I'll try that |
| 21:05.48 | deadcat | streuner: not if you compile everything into the kernel right? |
| 21:05.50 | Henryk | deadcat: ok, I'll have to that anyways (funky modified kernel), but will all the necessary tools (module-init-tools, etc.) be there? |
| 21:05.58 | luulis_ | Henryk: theres backports.org, it might have a 2.6 kernel for stable |
| 21:05.58 | shingouz | SuperSox: then in /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial make the "name" into the username you have to use |
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| 21:06.12 | tyu | hey any LVM masters in here? |
| 21:06.21 | tyu | i need to know.. if when adding a new disk to a LVM do i need o fdisk it.. or just pvcreate... vgextend |
| 21:06.25 | streuner | deadcat: well, for example if you use DHCP you have to compile many apps too |
| 21:06.29 | deadcat | Henryk: no. thats why you can build everything into the kernel. |
| 21:06.38 | deadcat | streuner: ohhhh |
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| 21:07.14 | shingouz | SuperSox: seems to me that the init3 for you should be AT+CGDCONT=1,,"internet" |
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| 21:07.18 | Henryk | deadcat: now that sounds like fun ;) |
| 21:07.19 | SuperSox | shingouz: still getting it failing with error code 1 |
| 21:07.24 | SuperSox | shingouz: yeah thats what I have now |
| 21:07.30 | deadcat | Henryk: hehe. |
| 21:07.52 | shingouz | SuperSox: pity the errorcode 1 is pretty much meaningless on these :( |
| 21:07.53 | streuner | Henryk: server or desktop? |
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| 21:08.06 | Nwallins | anyone know where the README file for resolvconf is? i don't have /usr/share/doc/resolvconf |
| 21:08.12 | shingouz | SuperSox: what does your /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial look like? |
| 21:08.15 | SuperSox | shingouz: yeah |
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| 21:08.26 | shingouz | Nwallins: resolv.conf |
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| 21:08.31 | SuperSox | I'll shingouz I'll paste wvdial.conf too |
| 21:08.37 | stophe | lo |
| 21:08.38 | deadcat | Nwallins: did you install the package? |
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| 21:08.42 | Nwallins | shingouz: resolvconf is different than resolv.conf |
| 21:08.43 | Henryk | streuner: hmm, server I guess. I need a testbed for mobile ipv6 and that machine is going to be my home agent |
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| 21:08.56 | Nwallins | deadcat: not manually, but i do have /etc/resolvconf/update.d |
| 21:08.59 | shingouz | Nwallins: ok, in that case i'll shut up ;) |
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| 21:09.13 | deadcat | Nwallins: me too. but the package is not installed on my system either. |
| 21:09.17 | deadcat | so install it |
| 21:09.20 | Nwallins | hmm |
| 21:09.23 | guestish_ | mmm...slow... |
| 21:09.26 | Henryk | but backports.org sound good, I'll try that |
| 21:09.34 | Nwallins | what does it do for me? i don't know anythign about it and i'm not sure i want it |
| 21:09.38 | streuner | !backports |
| 21:09.39 | dpkg | backport is, like, a package that was compiled for an older debian release. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 21:09.48 | stophe | bye |
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| 21:10.44 | deadcat | wonder if there are people who wants to trade their airport card for an orinoco (= |
| 21:10.48 | guestish | heh |
| 21:11.33 | deadcat | too bad the damn airport basestation doesnt use airport card inside )=. else i dont have to beg for the damn thing |
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| 21:13.29 | Henryk | ah, very fine. deb http://www.backports.org/debian woody kernel-2.6 is it, thanks |
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| 21:15.56 | pagux | dondelelcaro:pl tell me where to mount root partion |
| 21:16.04 | guestish | !root |
| 21:16.05 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 21:16.09 | dondelelcaro | pagux: just do it using the installer menus |
| 21:16.11 | guestish | ... |
| 21:16.14 | guestish | root is "/" |
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| 21:17.21 | pagux | dondelelcaro: debian is not showing my parttions though i can see it from shel ...fdisk -l |
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| 21:18.13 | dondelelcaro | pagux: well, you can do the install manually if you want, but that's moderately complicated. Try rebooting and see if they show up then. |
| 21:18.16 | DwyaneWade | anyone knows what UPS moniotr uses for? |
| 21:18.26 | DwyaneWade | monitor |
| 21:18.48 | DwyaneWade | the S90halt file requires UPS-monitor file but that file doesn't exist |
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| 21:19.24 | pagux | debian should use anaconda ......not this prehistoric installer |
| 21:19.45 | pagux | just my point of view |
| 21:19.59 | guestish | you seen the sarge installer? |
| 21:20.01 | dondelelcaro | pagux: uh, no. anaconda cannot work on all of the architectures that we support. Furthermore, the installer *IS* totally brand new, and is undergoing rapid development. |
| 21:20.03 | guestish | pagux |
| 21:20.15 | buu | pagux: The old installer is so sexy though |
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| 21:20.40 | gravity | pagux: anaconda does not fit Debian's needs |
| 21:20.59 | guestish | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.01 | dondelelcaro | pagux: if you want any help from me (or anyone else in this channel) kindly refrain from attempting to insult the people who are actually working on the installer. |
| 21:21.19 | gravity | pagux: You could, you know, help out with the installer |
| 21:21.29 | gravity | pagux: Because, you know, we're all volunteers doing this in our spare time |
| 21:21.31 | buu | dondelelcaro: I liked the old installer =[ |
| 21:21.59 | dondelelcaro | buu: well, you can always do what I do if you prefer it... drop to a console and use fdisk and debootstrap to do exactly what you want done. |
| 21:22.02 | dvs | but the next installer doesn't have to handle as many architectures (only 4 officially!) |
| 21:22.04 | buu | Score. |
| 21:22.33 | gravity | dvs: The new installer is very nice to hack on, and its built on the same technologies that Debian had already built a whole distro around, like debconf and dpkg |
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| 21:22.54 | pagux | i guess anaconda also support abt 3 platforms |
| 21:23.06 | gravity | pagux: Debian-installer supports 12 |
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| 21:23.41 | dondelelcaro | (not to mention the fact that it supports them TODAY, whereas anaconda doesn't even support 3 yet.) |
| 21:23.44 | gravity | dvs: And even though the next release may only be 4 platforms at first, we want to keep supporting the other platforms, including in the installer |
| 21:24.03 | billh | any news on Flash not working with Firefox ? or is this not a common thing ? |
| 21:24.05 | pagux | but its rather a manual installer ......though hw detection is ok |
| 21:24.23 | liable_ | madclicker: hmmmm? |
| 21:24.37 | gravity | pagux: "manual" how? You can hit enter like 6 times to get a full debian install. |
| 21:24.40 | dondelelcaro | pagux: you can just press return repeatedly. |
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| 21:25.58 | pagux | its not showing my partition on other pc it dindt detect my monitor (i had mannualy configure it) |
| 21:27.04 | streuner | pagux: Stop whining |
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| 21:27.30 | streuner | pagux: feel free to report bugs and help |
| 21:28.03 | buu | pagux: So why didn't you fix the problems? |
| 21:28.19 | Nwallins | i am not grokking the difference between nameserver and search wrt resolv.conf |
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| 21:28.28 | pagux | i am not whining ...i just saying what i experinced .......i have been using a redhat from start....so maybe find this odd |
| 21:28.41 | streuner | Nwallins: man resolv.conf |
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| 21:28.46 | DwyaneWade | anyone know why is my S90halt file badly written so that it returns Segmentation Fault? |
| 21:28.52 | Nwallins | streuner: yes, of course. still !grok |
| 21:29.28 | lord_rob | pagux: you can also install debian with anaconda anyway |
| 21:29.31 | Nwallins | i think i am just ignorant about dns in general |
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| 21:30.05 | pagux | lord_rob:how ? progeny installer? |
| 21:30.08 | streuner | Nwallins: DHCP? |
| 21:30.13 | Baard | Is there any package that automounts usb mass storage devices without to much hassle? I saw this guy using Ubuntu, it started gthumb automaticly when he connected the camera. Pretty nice |
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| 21:30.42 | lord_rob | pagux: yep |
| 21:30.45 | Nwallins | streuner: my router is running dhcp, but only for certain a certain ip range. my debian box has a static lan ip |
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| 21:31.28 | streuner | Nwallings: so you shouldn't care about DNS for you debian box at all |
| 21:31.28 | Nwallins | streuner: when you specify a hostname, is the search server queried or the nameserver server? |
| 21:31.59 | pagux | maybe i will go for full manual install ....I hope this installer will work |
| 21:32.04 | streuner | Nwallins: the debian is connected to your router, right? |
| 21:32.05 | Nwallins | streuner: i am trying to set up my debian box as a dns server (dnsmasq) to assign hostnames to ips on my lan |
| 21:32.10 | Nwallins | streuner: yes |
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| 21:32.23 | streuner | Nwallins: that's the job of your router |
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| 21:32.44 | Nwallins | streuner: yes, but i have set the dns server on the lan boxes to the debian box |
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| 21:33.13 | Nwallins | streuner: my router doesn't offer hostname mapping AFAICT |
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| 21:33.29 | Teemu_ | but I have no clue about where I can set those scrub rules |
| 21:33.31 | Teemu_ | can someone help me...problem is, when I try to edit some files at nfs mount, that edit hangs.. I read that hang comes when something "IIRC" have changed scrub rules, |
| 21:33.34 | Teemu_ | ;P |
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| 21:33.44 | a_monkey | is there any way i get get to use xorg? |
| 21:34.01 | Nwallins | a_monkey: download the source and compile |
| 21:34.06 | streuner | a_monkey: why do you think you need xorg? |
| 21:34.06 | Teemu_ | a_monkey: I use xorg in debian :I |
| 21:34.10 | a_monkey | Nwallins: other than that |
| 21:34.18 | Nwallins | not that i'm aware of |
| 21:34.25 | a_monkey | streuner: wanna mess around with real transparency |
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| 21:34.36 | dvs | no biting |
| 21:34.48 | Teemu_ | a_monkey: what graphic card? |
| 21:34.56 | dondelelcaro | a_monkey: see /topic ? |
| 21:34.59 | a_monkey | Teemu_: ati radeon 9200 |
| 21:35.08 | dvs | a_monkey: Don't even bother. |
| 21:35.14 | a_monkey | dvs: why not? |
| 21:35.26 | Nwallins | so is the 'search' server to lookup domain names and the 'nameserver' server to lookup hostnames? |
| 21:35.27 | dvs | a_monkey: the 4.4 drivers are already accelerated for the 9200 |
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| 21:35.31 | Teemu_ | a_monkey: you should join #ati and #xorg |
| 21:35.37 | lord_rob | a_monkey: you can grab the xorg debs from ubuntu repositories appearently. The "maintainer" of ati debian drivers did it |
| 21:36.28 | Om | Sorry for the stupid quection, but how can I rehash the X config without restarting X? (XFree) |
| 21:37.23 | kvn | Not possible |
| 21:37.36 | Om | Oh :( |
| 21:37.41 | Henryk | Om: not stupid, the question. That's a missing feature |
| 21:37.42 | kvn | Ctrl-Alt-Backspace could be the quickest way, if you have a dm |
| 21:37.57 | a_monkey | dvs: what "4.4 drivers"? |
| 21:37.58 | kvn | (this kills X) |
| 21:38.05 | Om | Nah, not worth having to quit Xchat and everything else I have running :( |
| 21:38.11 | dvs | a_monkey: The XFree 4.4 "radeon" driver |
| 21:38.16 | Om | Thanks anyway :) |
| 21:38.20 | kvn | np |
| 21:38.35 | a_monkey | dvs: what does that have to do with me not having to bother? |
| 21:38.44 | lord_rob | a_monkey: see http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html <--- check the news. appearently he did it (but I wouldn't want to try that myself) |
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| 21:38.51 | dvs | a_monkey: Why else would you want x.org for? |
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| 21:39.05 | citral | 8=|:-) |
| 21:39.05 | FieldySnuts | @fuck fglrx |
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| 21:39.33 | kvn | fglrx makes me cry except when it works. |
| 21:39.35 | a_monkey | dvs: real transparency. |
| 21:39.41 | dvs | ??? |
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| 21:40.06 | FieldySnuts | i've messed with it, it's not worth it and often mindbogglingly slow |
| 21:40.07 | streuner | wth is 'real transparency, can you through the monitor then? ;-) |
| 21:40.15 | streuner | see* |
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| 21:40.43 | kvn | Causes q3a and ut2k4 to work, so I do continue to fight with it. |
| 21:41.22 | Blissex | FieldySnuts: I quite agree. Without the NVIDIA proprietary drivers it is slow, and what's the point? |
| 21:41.29 | FieldySnuts | even with them |
| 21:41.46 | a_monkey | dvs: i don't want xorg for 3D drivers, or anything of the sort. |
| 21:41.47 | FieldySnuts | hard system hangs are common as well |
| 21:41.53 | Nwallins | or is the difference between the nameserver and search line that nameserver takes an ip, and search takes a fqdn? |
| 21:41.59 | a_monkey | dvs: i just wanted to mess around with real transparency. |
| 21:42.02 | streuner | a_monkey: do you have a screenshot, to see 'real transp.' in work? |
| 21:42.11 | FieldySnuts | streuner: no, you can't see it. |
| 21:42.17 | streuner | haha |
| 21:42.20 | FieldySnuts | because it's "real" |
| 21:43.01 | a_monkey | streuner: i don't have a screenshot. i don't have xorg installed |
| 21:43.18 | streuner | a_monkey: so who told you about? |
| 21:43.35 | a_monkey | streuner: lots of people |
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| 21:44.00 | Henryk | streuner: the difference is that common pseudotransparency just makes a screenshot and lays whatever should be 'transparent' over it. Then the things in the background can't change, because they're just screenshots. the new real transparency makes it possible to see through windows and really see what's moving behind them |
| 21:44.28 | dvs | oh... big deal |
| 21:44.47 | FieldySnuts | basically a bunch of noise over eyecandy features, i wish devs would concentrate on other things |
| 21:45.02 | Henryk | streuner: but if you want to see screenshots: http://images.google.de/images?q=xorg%20transparency |
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| 21:45.26 | bucky | !ubuntu bucky |
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| 21:46.38 | streuner | Henryk: well, for this feature i wouldn't change and loose the support of debian |
| 21:47.22 | streuner | The packages of X in debian are very stable |
| 21:48.00 | Henryk | hehe. I was forced to migrate to x.org because gentoo stopped supporting xfree at the beginning of this year |
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| 21:48.48 | SEcki | a freind of mine used x.org for better supportof his video card - he could use fullscreen dvd with x.org |
| 21:49.21 | Doirani | i think it depends on the video/dvd player |
| 21:49.42 | Doirani | vlc/xine/mplayer ... |
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| 21:50.00 | streuner | SEcki: my old ATI Rage have the same drivers in xorg and with SiS i have to use the drivers of Winschlhofer or just use VESA |
| 21:50.05 | shining | I think using xorg is nice, but not for transparency |
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| 21:51.43 | streuner | SEcki: very odd |
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| 21:52.44 | Swynndla | I have eth0 errors (RX packets:172 errors:178 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0) but I have none when booting from a live cd ... how do I do something like update my network driver? |
| 21:53.07 | sdschulze | How can I see the full error backlog on a Linux kernel panic? |
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| 21:53.29 | andrea | hello |
| 21:53.57 | oi-polloi | hi andrea |
| 21:54.13 | streuner | Swynndla: you just install debian? |
| 21:54.22 | Swynndla | yea |
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| 21:54.42 | streuner | Swynndla: what NIC do you have? |
| 21:54.49 | streuner | Swynndla: d-i? |
| 21:55.13 | Swynndla | Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31) |
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| 21:56.08 | streuner | Swynndla: d-i? |
| 21:56.18 | Swynndla | what is d-i? |
| 21:56.32 | streuner | !d-i |
| 21:56.33 | dpkg | [d-i] the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 21:56.58 | Swynndla | oh ic |
| 21:57.24 | Swynndla | i'll take a look |
| 21:57.26 | Swynndla | thanks |
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| 21:58.33 | battlex | hi, when i do "wget filename" i get an error that the command doesnt exisit.. how do i install wget please? |
| 21:58.43 | rxc | hello. I am trying to solve this for the entire saturday but got no luck. I have a matrox G450 card and installed the drivers from their website. i couldn't get openGL to load. glxinfo gives: libGL error: MGA DRI driver expected DDX driver version 1.0.x, but got version 4.1.0. can someone help me? |
| 21:58.49 | Xenguy | battlex: apt-get install wget |
| 21:59.18 | rxc | battlex: you probably have to be root first with su |
| 21:59.38 | battlex | ah ok, thanks |
| 21:59.49 | battlex | i just missed the "install" part :( |
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| 22:00.53 | dori | I've set up a chroot jail account, and I can log in using ssh, but I cannot copy a file using scp or ftp (I think I have all the binaries and libraries there). The session just hangs, and I can see a process being created, but it's not copying the file. Any ideas? |
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| 22:01.06 | tarzeau | battlex: try "moo" |
| 22:01.27 | EvanCarroll | dori: have you run debootstrap on chroot? |
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| 22:02.40 | EvanCarroll | dori: debootstrap --arch i386 sarge /loc/to/chroot |
| 22:02.49 | dori | EvanCarroll: the server is not running debian, so no debootstrap, thought I might find someone here who could help me |
| 22:03.07 | dori | what does debootstrap do? |
| 22:03.24 | EvanCarroll | does all the needed binaries and libraries for you |
| 22:03.27 | EvanCarroll | right from mirrors |
| 22:03.44 | dori | EvanCarroll: I think I got all the libraries copied (used ldd) |
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| 22:05.20 | LunarCrisis | is there a way to allow users to mount cd ISO images? |
| 22:05.46 | battlex | whenever i do apt-get, debian is always asking me to insert the cd rather than fetch the files via http |
| 22:05.48 | tarzeau | LunarCrisis: make a script |
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| 22:05.57 | battlex | how can i change it to get them from http please? |
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| 22:06.04 | LunarCrisis | tarzeau: what would the script do? |
| 22:06.06 | tarzeau | dori: debootstrap (8) - Bootstrap a basic Debian system |
| 22:06.11 | madclicker | l8er |
| 22:06.12 | battlex | instead of nagging me all the time :( |
| 22:06.13 | tarzeau | LunarCrisis: mount the cdrom |
| 22:06.34 | LunarCrisis | tarzeau, how would that allow the users priviledges they didn't have before? |
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| 22:06.41 | tarzeau | LunarCrisis: because you don't want to setup sudo for a user to be able to mount everything |
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| 22:06.57 | tarzeau | LunarCrisis: add the script to sudo ;) |
| 22:07.12 | LunarCrisis | tarzeau, err, what is sudo? >.< |
| 22:07.22 | tarzeau | LunarCrisis: apt-cache show sudo |
| 22:07.27 | LunarCrisis | alright, thanks! |
| 22:07.31 | tarzeau | LunarCrisis: see sudoers in www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/ |
| 22:07.35 | Doirani | Does anyone know how to customize d-i to run kismet into it ? I dont wanna have the hd all the time working. |
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| 22:08.01 | andrea | cu |
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| 22:08.02 | racoontje | Hiya. Just installed srage from the debian-installer images, everything worked fine |
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| 22:08.09 | racoontje | I have sound, and I'm running fluxbox |
| 22:08.11 | racoontje | however |
| 22:08.21 | racoontje | alsamixer says that the alsa devices dont exist |
| 22:08.29 | racoontje | so i'm guessing that I'm running OSS atm |
| 22:08.33 | racoontje | two questions: |
| 22:08.40 | racoontje | 1) How can I run alsa instead? |
| 22:08.48 | racoontje | 2) what's the name of the mixer tool for oss? |
| 22:09.10 | FieldySnuts | @stfu racoontje |
| 22:09.12 | ravenbird | SHUT THE FUCK UP racoontje! |
| 22:09.14 | tarzeau | !faq racoontje |
| 22:09.15 | dpkg | racoontje: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 22:09.33 | suifur | !fuck ravenbird |
| 22:09.41 | suifur | @fuck dpkg |
| 22:09.47 | tarzeau | racoontje: volumecontrol.app |
| 22:09.47 | Markrian | That's rough |
| 22:09.53 | tarzeau | Markrian: no it'sn ot |
| 22:09.57 | suifur | mmm like porn stars |
| 22:10.12 | tarzeau | Doirani: www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
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| 22:10.45 | Markrian | I'd say fucking someone roughly from behind, like a weasel, is rough ;o |
| 22:10.45 | gravity | racoontje: Try alsamixer if you're running alsa |
| 22:10.57 | gravity | racoontje: aumix is the standard mixer for OSS sound |
| 22:10.58 | tarzeau | Markrian: some women like it |
| 22:10.59 | suifur | !fuck Markrian |
| 22:11.08 | tarzeau | !breastfeed Markrian |
| 22:11.10 | suifur | there you go Markrian |
| 22:11.22 | Henryk | just so you all know: a 486 is sloooooow |
| 22:11.24 | prodope | i'm getting this error: depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented - anyone know what it means/how i can fix it? |
| 22:11.35 | tarzeau | Henryk: i played Doom on it! |
| 22:11.36 | Doirani | tarzeau, :-) |
| 22:11.36 | Markrian | Ah... takes me back to this morning :) |
| 22:11.46 | citral | a 486 is not slow |
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| 22:12.02 | bob2 | !+qm_modules |
| 22:12.02 | dpkg | install module-init-tools, or <Justin_> like I said a while ago, it should be QM_ID10T_MODULES, or ask me about <bunk 2.6> |
| 22:12.04 | bob2 | prodope: ^ |
| 22:12.08 | citral | you are just impatient, or trying to use kde on it |
| 22:12.27 | prodope | thx |
| 22:12.38 | Henryk | tarzeau: hah, doom is easy. compiling a 2.6 series kernel is not |
| 22:12.39 | tarzeau | citral: or some java stuff |
| 22:12.39 | buu | How does "slowly, like a crazed weasel" work? |
| 22:12.53 | suifur | Henryk: the NASA space shuttles still use 486's, can't be that bad |
| 22:13.00 | tarzeau | Henryk: i compiled a linux kernel in 5 hours on a sparc classic (like a 486) |
| 22:13.09 | tarzeau | Henryk: nothing hard about that. but try to compile c++ crap ... |
| 22:13.14 | citral | buu: that's the mystery of porn probably |
| 22:13.15 | Henryk | hehe |
| 22:13.20 | suifur | buu: no one knows :( |
| 22:13.37 | buu | Amazing! |
| 22:13.42 | Henryk | ok, you win. c++-crap (like kde) is even slow on my 1.8GHz P4 |
| 22:13.44 | buu | Will the wonders never cease? |
| 22:13.52 | Markrian | !fuck Markrian |
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| 22:14.04 | citral | !stupid bot tricks |
| 22:14.04 | dpkg | Watching someone play with the bots gets old pretty fast. If you really *must* do it, don't do it here. Use /msg. /join #debian-bots and play there |
| 22:14.07 | tarzeau | Henryk: have you played NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP on a 486 or m68k (68030/68040)? |
| 22:14.19 | tarzeau | Henryk: that's fast shit on crap hardware (nowadays) |
| 22:14.20 | Doirani | I am doing a dist-upgrade (sarge) on a Pentium I 75MHz, it takes 1h, but it works finally ;-) |
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| 22:14.30 | tarzeau | Doirani: how much memory? |
| 22:14.34 | Doirani | 40M |
| 22:14.46 | Doirani | A present from my boss |
| 22:14.51 | tarzeau | Doirani: i've run x and mp3 playing on a 50mhz sparc classic: |
| 22:14.58 | tarzeau | Doirani: www.linuks.mine.nu/screenshots/amiwm.png |
| 22:14.59 | citral | dist-upgrade is much more about memory and disk speed than cpu |
| 22:15.11 | Doirani | y |
| 22:15.32 | tarzeau | !y |
| 22:15.33 | dpkg | y is, like, http://www.y-windows.org/, or it's "why", not y. w h y. see u, any1. NOT a substitute for I. If you mean yourself in the first person use 'I' and not 'y'. |
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| 22:16.13 | Doirani | floppy broken and Cd not existent, but with grldr it finally works to migrate from NT do sarge ;-) !! |
| 22:16.23 | Doirani | s/do/to/ |
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| 22:18.42 | citral | Doirani: use fluxbox on that, or just console |
| 22:18.54 | Doirani | @tarzeau: I have tried to run mp3 on 75MHz CPU, It is horrible! Only .wav works on that hardware |
| 22:19.06 | tarzeau | Doirani: buillshit, mp3 works too |
| 22:19.12 | tarzeau | Doirani: what sucky player did you try? |
| 22:19.15 | Doirani | @citral: xfce4 |
| 22:19.33 | buu | xfce4 is a player? |
| 22:19.39 | citral | mmm even xfce4 would be a bit heavy |
| 22:19.40 | Doirani | @tarzeau: all (mpg123 mpg321 ...) |
| 22:19.40 | Henryk | Doirani: no, MP3 decodes just fine on my 486-66, and almost (need a bigger buffer) on a 486-33 |
| 22:19.47 | tarzeau | Doirani: you forgot madplay/ocp |
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| 22:20.10 | Doirani | @tarzeau: I will try that, thanx |
| 22:20.13 | Henryk | of course I had to stop all the other stuff (apache, mysql, etc.) on that machine. |
| 22:20.18 | tarzeau | Doirani: gnu.ethz.ch/debian/ocp/ |
| 22:20.38 | tarzeau | Henryk: obviously, sparc classic has 8bit/8khz/mono so ... |
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| 22:22.26 | mc_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:26.39 | Doirani | @tarzeau: I have d.loaded the debs ... |
| 22:26.46 | Pi_ | hi |
| 22:27.05 | Pi_ | my mozilla seems to be ignoring esddsp |
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| 22:27.23 | Doirani | hopefully, they work with sarge |
| 22:27.46 | Doirani | illuminati is a great card game !! |
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| 22:28.36 | valdyn | Pi_: dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-browser |
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| 22:28.54 | Pi_ | valdyn: it's set to use esddsp |
| 22:29.07 | Pi_ | valdyn: but sound doesn't play under any of the settings |
| 22:29.12 | Pi_ | auto or esd |
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| 22:29.30 | Pi_ | and when i have it set to none and manually esddsp mozilla-suite i still get nothing. |
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| 22:31.39 | shingouz | there probably is a neat way to get cookies on links2 but as google insists on showing me links to cookie recipies, can someone give me a hint on how to enable cookies on links? |
| 22:32.15 | AngryParsley | it should prompt you each time if you want to accept a cookie |
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| 22:32.32 | AngryParsley | at least, that's how it works with links on my linux box |
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| 22:32.46 | shingouz | AngryParsley: it doesnt. at least i cannot make even the google preferences to stick at all |
| 22:32.49 | Seita | Hi |
| 22:33.00 | cthulfuego | well, cookies suck |
| 22:33.01 | AngryParsley | shingouz: well, I'm out of ideas |
| 22:33.15 | AngryParsley | shingouz: also, links usually only saves cookies for the session |
| 22:33.27 | AngryParsley | after you quit and start links again, all rules and cookies are gone |
| 22:33.36 | AngryParsley | *rules for accepting cookies |
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| 22:33.43 | Pi_ | shingouz: look in .elinks/config |
| 22:33.50 | Pi_ | err |
| 22:33.50 | shingouz | cthulfuego: yes they do but if they are the only way to get a decent english interface for google they have to be used. without cookies i am stuck with the finnish google |
| 22:33.51 | noDLL | if i have an hd image (done with dd) from what sector should the first partition begin? |
| 22:33.53 | Pi_ | shingouz: look in .elinks/elinks.conf |
| 22:35.05 | noDLL | err what sector should the first partition begin from? |
| 22:35.09 | cthulfuego | shingouz: I think google need to be emailed about how their website needs to check BROWSER language prefs rather than originating IP. |
| 22:35.44 | doub | cthulfuego: so damn true |
| 22:35.46 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a browser war |
| 22:35.46 | dpkg | Netscape supports standards better than Firebird! |
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| 22:36.19 | AngryParsley | heh |
| 22:36.26 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: start a badger war |
| 22:36.27 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: are you using Windows? |
| 22:36.30 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 22:36.39 | FieldySnuts | apt: start a badger war |
| 22:36.45 | FieldySnuts | damn |
| 22:36.55 | doub | cthulfuego: my isp in france is a swedish isp's affiliate, and from time to time google appears in swedish |
| 22:37.01 | shining | how do I launch a xterm in iso for using slrn ? |
| 22:37.10 | grendal_prime | hey im trying to compile something and i keep getting a shitload of errors...something to do with my kernel source code |
| 22:37.10 | Ikarus | doub: that is so evil |
| 22:37.10 | shining | since it doesnt support utf8 |
| 22:37.12 | grendal_prime | include/linux/dqblk_xfs.h:60: error: conflicting types for `d_flags' |
| 22:37.12 | FieldySnuts | "in iso"? |
| 22:37.19 | Ikarus | Google appaers in Dutch here at times, can't stand it |
| 22:37.38 | citral | ewww |
| 22:37.40 | shining | FieldySnuts: iso charset |
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| 22:37.49 | grendal_prime | include/linux/dqblk_xfs.h:59: error: parse error before "__s8" |
| 22:37.50 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.53 | grendal_prime | anyone have any idea? |
| 22:37.54 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a badger war |
| 22:37.54 | dpkg | snakes are better than FieldySnuts |
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| 22:37.55 | citral | !do google |
| 22:37.58 | FieldySnuts | HEH |
| 22:38.07 | saabin | hello friends |
| 22:38.07 | paulswm | !win FieldySnuts |
| 22:38.08 | dpkg | Congratulations, FieldySnuts! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 22:38.12 | FieldySnuts | yay |
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| 22:38.23 | saabin | uuencode file1.doc file1.doc | mailx -s "Subjectt" me@me.com How to parse argument file1.doc in ksh or any shell ${-1} ? |
| 22:38.43 | a_monkey | i've installed the xfonts-terminus package and restarted X, but i don't see any new fonts in and font lists. |
| 22:38.47 | a_monkey | can anybody help? |
| 22:38.48 | tarzeau | saabin: ? |
| 22:38.55 | noDLL | if i have an hd image (was done with dd) what sector should the first partition begin from? |
| 22:38.55 | Pi_ | a_monkey: restart xfs |
| 22:38.56 | tarzeau | a_monkey: which font lists? |
| 22:39.01 | ldkfj | saabin: i thought it was $1. |
| 22:39.06 | tarzeau | noDLL: /msg dpkg repeat |
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| 22:39.12 | a_monkey | Pi_: how? |
| 22:39.18 | saabin | tarzeau: hi want to find the argument comming before | |
| 22:39.28 | emokid | is debian better than gentoo? |
| 22:39.36 | emokid | i've heard that debian is based on gentoo, is that true? |
| 22:39.36 | tarzeau | emokid: yes |
| 22:39.36 | doub | a_monkey: i think you need to add the relevent directory to your X config file |
| 22:39.38 | FieldySnuts | @troll emokid |
| 22:39.40 | tarzeau | emokid: no |
| 22:39.42 | paulswm | !better |
| 22:39.43 | dpkg | hmm... better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 22:39.45 | emokid | ?? |
| 22:39.47 | emokid | whats troll |
| 22:39.48 | tarzeau | emokid: FUCK OFF |
| 22:39.52 | doub | a_monkey: see the README.Debian in /usr/share/doc/xfonts-terminus |
| 22:39.52 | a_monkey | doub: that's what i've been trying to do... |
| 22:39.55 | noDLL | ok sorry |
| 22:40.00 | a_monkey | doub: oh ok |
| 22:40.00 | citral | a_monkey: you need FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (or maybe /fonts/Type1 |
| 22:40.07 | tarzeau | 01:38 [gnu] CTCP VERSION reply from emokid: mIRC v6.16 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 22:40.10 | cthulfuego | !tell emokid -about troll |
| 22:40.13 | FieldySnuts | tarzeau: haha |
| 22:40.22 | AngryParsley | oh my, a troll! |
| 22:40.25 | emokid | wtf guys |
| 22:40.29 | saabin | ldkfj: no always if yyou want to send attachments is done this way "uuncode ... | mailx -s " I want to find how to search before | |
| 22:40.30 | AngryParsley | what has this channel come to? |
| 22:40.30 | FieldySnuts | @hump emokid |
| 22:40.46 | cthulfuego | emokid: This is #debian, gentoo is not on topic here. |
| 22:40.49 | emokid | u should chill down dawgs |
| 22:40.49 | grendal_prime | include/linux/dqblk_xfs.h:75: warning: data definition has no type or storage class |
| 22:40.50 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.51 | emokid | bye |
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| 22:40.55 | streuner | !sing sunday |
| 22:40.55 | FieldySnuts | lame |
| 22:40.55 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 22:41.07 | Henryk | cthulfuego: sure it is, if it's better than debian!!!11!!1! ;-) |
| 22:41.11 | tarzeau | AngryParsley: the same friendly and peaceful place like years before |
| 22:41.11 | paulswm | He gave up too easily |
| 22:41.31 | AngryParsley | paulswm: or he's going to change hostnames and come back for more |
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| 22:41.35 | citral | DEB1AN ROXORZ MORE THAN GEN2O |
| 22:41.42 | paulswm | Heh |
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| 22:41.45 | FieldySnuts | apt: start a distro war |
| 22:41.47 | apt | Gentoo is stupid! |
| 22:41.50 | FieldySnuts | hahahaha |
| 22:41.51 | paulswm | YAY |
| 22:41.51 | citral | heh |
| 22:41.52 | Henryk | pah |
| 22:41.56 | bsims | hrm anyone use a dual layer dvd drive? I am thinking of upgrading |
| 22:41.58 | cthulfuego | apt: botsnack |
| 22:41.58 | apt | thanks, cthulfuego |
| 22:42.05 | AngryParsley | fools, everyone knows that ash is the best shell |
| 22:42.13 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a shell war |
| 22:42.13 | dpkg | csh owns esh |
| 22:42.20 | cthulfuego | bsims: I have one, but don't use it for DL media, as those are WAY to too expensive. |
| 22:42.22 | Henryk | wtf is esh? |
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| 22:42.26 | Pi_ | csh is cool. |
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| 22:42.33 | bsims | cthulfuego: hrm just wondering |
| 22:42.35 | FieldySnuts | csh is for FreeBSD weenies. |
| 22:42.35 | raf256 | how can I set system default encodding to iso-8859-2? |
| 22:42.40 | paulswm | csh is awful |
| 22:42.41 | cthulfuego | Henryk: esh is a poor imitation of rc |
| 22:42.43 | AngryParsley | Pi_: yeah, I use csh all the time |
| 22:42.44 | EvanCarroll | !say psh > all |
| 22:42.44 | tarzeau | raf256: for which software? |
| 22:42.44 | bsims | my 8x single layer is looking old these days |
| 22:42.45 | dpkg | psh > all |
| 22:42.55 | FieldySnuts | badgersh |
| 22:42.56 | raf256 | tarzeau: general, for the system |
| 22:42.58 | tarzeau | zsh!!! |
| 22:43.04 | tarzeau | raf256: for which software? |
| 22:43.10 | Henryk | raf256: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-locales seems like a good place to read |
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| 22:43.18 | raf256 | tarzeau: for gnome-termianl, and I was told taht ""t tries to be smart and read encoding from system locale |
| 22:43.21 | FieldySnuts | emokid: go away. |
| 22:43.21 | emokid | i just now read what troll is but i still dont get it |
| 22:43.22 | Henryk | (I just had to look that up too) |
| 22:43.22 | cthulfuego | bsims: Unless you do a lot of burning/duplication i wouldn't worry about it. |
| 22:43.23 | emokid | why am i troll |
| 22:43.30 | emokid | what did i do |
| 22:43.30 | FieldySnuts | sod off |
| 22:43.34 | paulswm | *sigh* |
| 22:43.36 | A-z-i-z | hello... is there a debian package for opencms ? |
| 22:43.38 | bsims | cthulfuego: I do on occasion |
| 22:43.40 | Pi_ | ohhh. |
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| 22:43.43 | tarzeau | A-z-i-z: packages.debian.org |
| 22:43.48 | doub | paulswm: i tend to like tcsh's completion system better than bash's (but maybe i'm not up to date as far as bash is concerned) |
| 22:43.50 | bsims | 130Gb to DVD takes ages |
| 22:43.51 | paulswm | emokid: do you have a debian question? |
| 22:43.53 | shingouz | fsck fsck fsck. google in finnish whatever i do with links2 |
| 22:43.58 | Pi_ | i think esddsp's problem is.. |
| 22:43.58 | emokid | paulswm i already asked one |
| 22:44.03 | cthulfuego | bsims: <heh> Why not get a second drive? :-) |
| 22:44.05 | emokid | and they badmouthed me |
| 22:44.09 | Pi_ | bleh |
| 22:44.09 | tarzeau | shingouz: not my fault ;) |
| 22:44.12 | FieldySnuts | go cry in a corner. |
| 22:44.14 | paulswm | I didn't see one, just something about gentoo |
| 22:44.15 | citral | emokid: yes, debian is much better than gentoo. |
| 22:44.15 | tarzeau | shingouz: but feel free to send in patches |
| 22:44.16 | emokid | im afraid to ask others |
| 22:44.25 | emokid | ciaron, thats not what gentoo users say |
| 22:44.28 | Henryk | doub: bash has a quite decent completion system. Of course it's only easy to install in gentoo, not on debian |
| 22:44.29 | FieldySnuts | drunk and stupid is no way to go through life |
| 22:44.30 | bsims | cthulfuego: last time I backed up all 120GB to DVD with Mondo it took 12hrs (that *is* my second drive) |
| 22:44.32 | FieldySnuts | wait, yes it is |
| 22:44.36 | cthulfuego | emokid: You didn't aska debian related question. If you have one, we'll be happy to answer it. |
| 22:44.44 | bsims | first drive has OS and /home on it |
| 22:44.48 | citral | emokid: because you don't need to compile everything yourself, you have a stable system, up in about one hour. |
| 22:44.50 | emokid | i am not on debian right now |
| 22:44.52 | bsims | second drive is my music and porn |
| 22:44.55 | cthulfuego | bsims: Well, i have 6 here... that's nice & quick ;-) |
| 22:44.56 | emokid | im planning to install linux today later |
| 22:45.00 | FieldySnuts | @annoy emokid |
| 22:45.02 | ravenbird | emokid: bash: FFS: command not found!!!!! |
| 22:45.03 | emokid | and thats why i want to know which one |
| 22:45.11 | cthulfuego | bsims: I meant second *DVDRW* drive |
| 22:45.12 | emokid | ive heard a lot of arguments about each linux |
| 22:45.19 | FieldySnuts | s/arguments/trolls/ |
| 22:45.21 | tarzeau | emokid: there's only one linux |
| 22:45.22 | emokid | now ive come to gentoo or debian or ubuntu |
| 22:45.28 | doub | Henryk: of course. i'll switch to gentoo right away. i don't have anything better to do than compiling, anyway. |
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| 22:45.32 | cthulfuego | emokid: Did you think people in #debian would somehow tell you to use something other then Debian? |
| 22:45.36 | tarzeau | emokid: go use #gentoo or #ubuntu but go away |
| 22:45.37 | citral | emokid: you are in #debian, so we'll say debian rocks. in #gentoo, they'll say gentoo rocks. |
| 22:45.41 | streuner | emokid: go away |
| 22:45.42 | FieldySnuts | @win tarzeau |
| 22:45.45 | ravenbird | Congratulations, tarzeau! You have won the US presidency! |
| 22:45.54 | emokid | cthulfuego, well yes, maybe there are people i can reason with |
| 22:46.00 | paulswm | doub: actually, I haven't used anything except ksh and bash in years, so I'm not up with the other shells, but I did dislike csh when I used it, ksh was such an improvement |
| 22:46.00 | emokid | or they can give me arguments why to choose debian |
| 22:46.04 | Henryk | emokid: the best system depends on what you want to do, really |
| 22:46.05 | ana | does anyone knoq how to share connection with firestarter |
| 22:46.07 | cthulfuego | emokid: Not on a sunday, not here.. <heh> |
| 22:46.13 | tarzeau | emokid: www.debian.org/intro/why_debian |
| 22:46.14 | streuner | hehe |
| 22:46.19 | emokid | Henryk, mostly games |
| 22:46.21 | FieldySnuts | emokid: eat dirt instead. |
| 22:46.24 | shingouz | emokid: we are the friendliest channel on freenode ;) |
| 22:46.31 | paulswm | HAHAHA |
| 22:46.37 | emokid | shingouz, i see :( |
| 22:46.38 | citral | emokid: I'd suggest you first go on the websites of the distros, to make yourself an idea. |
| 22:46.39 | FieldySnuts | !pal shingouz |
| 22:46.40 | cthulfuego | emokid: Honestly if you want games you're better off with WIndows. |
| 22:46.46 | micky | hello.. does anyone have a clue on how to control my Radio Tuner card under linux ? well it`s installed.. with alsa.. alsamixer show it but i can`t figure out how to tell the tuner to change the frequency it runs on .. do i need some kind of software ? and yes.. i got in the GNURadio page which made me dizzy :( now i'm not sure if i can use this card at all under linux.. |
| 22:46.52 | Henryk | ubuntu is pretty and easy, gentoo is if you have to much spare time (like I do), debian is stable and old |
| 22:47.02 | shining | emokid: gentoo for fun, ubuntu for lazyness, debian for rest |
| 22:47.03 | emokid | well, im installing linux because windows costs too much |
| 22:47.03 | tarzeau | Henryk: ubuntu might be easy, but certainly not pretty |
| 22:47.05 | streuner | *PLONK* |
| 22:47.05 | FieldySnuts | sunday must be creeping across the planet |
| 22:47.20 | citral | gentoo for what? fun? |
| 22:47.23 | citral | hahaha |
| 22:47.25 | doub | paulswm: but csh is history anyway, as much as original sh is |
| 22:47.25 | tarzeau | shining: ubuntu is more like for windows people |
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| 22:47.34 | shingouz | FieldySnuts: has been here for almost two hours now |
| 22:47.34 | paulswm | doub: ondeed |
| 22:47.37 | paulswm | indeed |
| 22:47.38 | onre | gentoo is "fun" only for pretty strange values of "fun" |
| 22:47.39 | cthulfuego | emokid: Linux won't play windows games (well) without additional payware software. |
| 22:47.39 | shining | tarzeau: windows ppl are not lazy? |
| 22:47.41 | Henryk | tarzeau: huh? it had quite some nice eye candy when I installed it some weeks ago for my parents |
| 22:47.45 | tarzeau | shining: yes they are |
| 22:47.59 | shingouz | shining: they people? |
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| 22:48.03 | emokid | cthulfuego, ive read bout game emulation |
| 22:48.04 | raf256 | ok I didnt understoo d the manual |
| 22:48.05 | tarzeau | Henryk: maybe you mean eye cancer |
| 22:48.05 | grendal_prime | anyone using 2.6.8.2? |
| 22:48.06 | ana | pllleeeaaassssee... |
| 22:48.10 | raf256 | what should I change to change the ENCODING |
| 22:48.11 | emokid | can u do that on debian? |
| 22:48.14 | Henryk | tarzeau: whatever |
| 22:48.14 | ana | somebody help me share my connection |
| 22:48.15 | raf256 | without changing the LOCALE? |
| 22:48.24 | citral | !irritate ana |
| 22:48.25 | dpkg | ana: Y iz debain so old? how does I run teh grafixx windows lol |
| 22:48.29 | cthulfuego | emokid: if you want something LIKE debian, go with Ubuntu or Kubuntu. They're more up to date and a bit eaier for beginners. gentoo is ... well... shite with a capital SHITE. |
| 22:48.30 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 22:48.39 | streuner | grendal_prime: many people use it |
| 22:48.46 | raf256 | so that locale will be US_en as it is (to have english error messages and so on) but to have iso-8859-2 encoding as default not iso-8859-1 |
| 22:48.59 | onre | emokid, certainly. if you check beforehand which games are supported by wine or the gaming-enhanced version, whose name i can't remember, you shouldn't have too much trouble. i play steel panthers: world at war daily with wine. |
| 22:49.06 | citral | ana: ask a question first, or describe your problem |
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| 22:49.15 | streuner | grendal_prime: How long do you come to #debian? |
| 22:49.17 | emokid | wine? thats the name of that emulation soft? |
| 22:49.25 | FieldySnuts | it's spelt "shit" |
| 22:49.26 | onre | emokid yup, WINdows Emulator |
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| 22:49.39 | cthulfuego | emokid: Yes. Try www.transgaming.com for a gaming-enhanced version too. |
| 22:49.41 | tarzeau | doub: /topic of #gnu-kbsd |
| 22:49.52 | onre | doub, BSDs are sane. gentoo is not. :D |
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| 22:50.01 | streuner | grendal_prime: /msg dpkg ask |
| 22:50.04 | cthulfuego | doub: OpenBSD is great. Gentoo is _still_ shite ;-) |
| 22:50.10 | emokid | i know one guy who uses freebsd, he is totally mad with it |
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| 22:50.13 | shining | ports can break too sometimes |
| 22:50.20 | citral | GEN2O SUCKZ MOR ETHAN SH1T |
| 22:50.21 | emokid | guess what os he told me to choose |
| 22:50.28 | simonrvn | i just installed netbsd on my x86 |
| 22:50.28 | paulswm | emokid: Really, if you're a gamer, Linux/wine is not a total replacement for Windows, you will want Windows or Windows + Linux |
| 22:50.28 | grendal_prime | streuner, been busy..i was just wondering if anyone had any trouble with it |
| 22:50.28 | Doirani | I am mad with AIX |
| 22:50.33 | FieldySnuts | emokid: who cares. |
| 22:50.39 | streuner | grendal_prime: BTS |
| 22:50.40 | emokid | he said that freebsd is the most secure and stable os, but i doubt |
| 22:50.40 | shining | you hate more gentoo users or really the distrib itself ? |
| 22:50.41 | marska | Hello.. I was wondering if anyone knew if Mozilla has a TEXT ONLY MODE wherein all pictures and graphics are disabled? |
| 22:50.43 | onre | probably you all know this page http://funroll-loops.org/ :) |
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| 22:50.48 | emokid | i mean freebsd has no interface |
| 22:50.53 | emokid | only console and some blackbox |
| 22:50.53 | cthulfuego | doub: Well atually, to be fair, gentoo users are shite. gentoo *maybe* has advantages |
| 22:50.55 | tarzeau | emokid: it has a handbook |
| 22:50.56 | FieldySnuts | emokid: you are obviously clueless. go away. |
| 22:50.58 | tarzeau | emokid: bullshit |
| 22:51.02 | emokid | FieldySnuts, stop it |
| 22:51.02 | tarzeau | emokid: they even have GNUstep! |
| 22:51.03 | emokid | pls |
| 22:51.04 | citral | emokid: it's only for servers, not desktops (imo) |
| 22:51.04 | cthulfuego | . They're just totally negated by the userbase. |
| 22:51.09 | tarzeau | emokid: > suse | redhat |
| 22:51.11 | FieldySnuts | emokid: use freebsd then you can talk. you are talking out your ass. |
| 22:51.25 | Henryk | cthulfuego: now that's interesting |
| 22:51.25 | emokid | FieldySnuts, could u please stop being so mad |
| 22:51.31 | aardvark | !u |
| 22:51.31 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 22:51.34 | FieldySnuts | emokid: 1) stop trolling 2) it's you not u |
| 22:51.36 | drac | Is there an easy way to create deb, what only had 1 binary file, and dpkg -i'n it only puts it to some directory? |
| 22:51.45 | FieldySnuts | !irritate emokid |
| 22:51.46 | dpkg | emokid: HELP ME!!! who uses cable lol |
| 22:51.50 | FieldySnuts | bnrb |
| 22:51.52 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:51.52 | shining | emokid: freebsd is maybe better for server, but it runs well for desktop too. you can have gnome/kde running with most multimedia apps |
| 22:51.55 | emokid | what trolling!! and u is short for you |
| 22:51.55 | tarzeau | helix: there? |
| 22:52.02 | emokid | oh shiner840_Away |
| 22:52.04 | tarzeau | !chanop |
| 22:52.07 | helix | yeah |
| 22:52.11 | doub | tarzeau: i'm not saying about the technical point of view, but rather on the way to deal with the system and apps. gentoo is sort of a faded copy of BSD's handling, AFAIK |
| 22:52.13 | tarzeau | helix: can you remove this troll? |
| 22:52.27 | thingfish | "who uses cable lol" that cracks me up |
| 22:52.29 | helix | let me look through scrollback |
| 22:52.29 | citral | it's not a troll, just a clueless |
| 22:52.29 | emokid | shining, then it doesnt matter like what os you use? you can install that gnome/kde on every one? |
| 22:52.34 | simonrvn | u it~'s short for "i'm lame, watch me AOLspeek" |
| 22:52.40 | Henryk | doub: actually gentoo is not just a copy but has some nice extensions |
| 22:52.49 | paulswm | !win simonrvn |
| 22:52.49 | cthulfuego | To be fair, it's mainly FieldySnuts who's been trolling emokid |
| 22:52.50 | dpkg | Congratulations, simonrvn! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 22:52.54 | helix | hum, seems to me other people are trolling emokid |
| 22:53.00 | onre | gnome and kde work on just about any decent unix |
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| 22:53.20 | citral | helix: yeah, instead of saying "debian just rules. go for it." |
| 22:54.26 | emokid | anyway ill probably install debian since this seems the only channel people are actually talking |
| 22:54.30 | emokid | cuz ill probably need help |
| 22:54.42 | onre | be sure to read the manual first. :) |
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| 22:54.52 | shingouz | emokid: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 22:55.00 | cthulfuego | emokid: As long as you download a sarge iso (not 3.0!) you won't need help, it's very straighforward. |
| 22:55.02 | Henryk | and hey, gentoo at least doesn't install any open ports by default as debian does! ;-) |
| 22:55.08 | citral | emokid: you need to read a lot of docs if you want to run debian. |
| 22:55.11 | tarzeau | Henryk: oh please |
| 22:55.20 | emokid | thank u guys, besides, YOU HAVE BEEN TROLLED BY: GNAA |
| 22:55.20 | bucky | !bite FieldySnuts |
| 22:55.21 | emokid | [G][N][A][A]™ -- http://www.gnaa.us -- Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? 119 |
| 22:55.21 | emokid | [G][N][A][A]™ -- http://www.gnaa.us -- Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? 87 |
| 22:55.21 | emokid | [G][N][A][A]™ -- http://www.gnaa.us -- Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? 332 |
| 22:55.22 | emokid | [G][N][A][A]™ -- http://www.gnaa.us -- Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? 295 |
| 22:55.22 | emokid | [G][N][A][A]™ -- http://www.gnaa.us -- Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? 357 |
| 22:55.23 | emokid | [G][N][A][A]™ -- http://www.gnaa.us -- Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? 93 |
| 22:55.24 | doub | Henryk: like ? it's not like i'm going to try it soon anyway. i prefer learning BSD than gentoo |
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| 22:55.28 | AngryParsley | haha |
| 22:55.28 | emokid | lolololl |
| 22:55.30 | emokid | [G][N][A][A]™ -- http://www.gnaa.us -- Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? 61 |
| 22:55.32 | emokid | [G][N][A][A]™ -- http://www.gnaa.us -- Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? 143 |
| 22:55.34 | emokid | [G][N][A][A]™ -- http://www.gnaa.us -- Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? 165 |
| 22:55.36 | chealer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.36 | tarzeau | Henryk: http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?thold=-1&mode=flat&order=1&sid=235#1538 |
| 22:55.37 | emokid | LATVIA LATVIA LATVIA |
| 22:55.38 | emokid | LATVIA LATVIA LATVIA |
| 22:55.39 | idnar | !ops more GNAA |
| 22:55.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: more GNAA |
| 22:55.40 | citral | pffff |
| 22:55.40 | emokid | LATVIA LATVIA LATVIA |
| 22:55.43 | FieldySnuts | @ops gnaa |
| 22:55.44 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: gnaa |
| 22:55.44 | emokid | LATVIA LATVIA LATVIA |
| 22:55.45 | shingouz | helix: how about now? ;) |
| 22:55.46 | emokid | lolol |
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| 22:55.48 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 22:55.49 | cthulfuego | hehe |
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| 22:55.51 | FieldySnuts | thanks. |
| 22:55.51 | thingfish | doesn't that just figure |
| 22:55.56 | tarzeau | helix: now? |
| 22:56.00 | tarzeau | thanks |
| 22:56.04 | cthulfuego | it's sunday, i should have known better. |
| 22:56.07 | chealer | sorry for breaking his autokick kick |
| 22:56.20 | shingouz | autokick nick? |
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| 22:56.29 | chealer | uh, brain failure |
| 22:56.32 | simonrvn | .... |
| 22:56.32 | simonrvn | dffs |
| 22:56.32 | simonrvn | freaking idiot |
| 22:56.40 | simonrvn | grr. lag |
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| 22:56.58 | thingfish | this channel attracts some odd types, I don't know what it is... |
| 22:57.01 | Henryk | doub: it had some services in inet.d open, time, daytime, discard and smtp if I recall correctly |
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| 22:57.26 | tarzeau | thingfish: you're using gaim? |
| 22:57.35 | thingfish | yes I am, tarzeau |
| 22:57.36 | bucky | thingfish, they feel they must fight authority |
| 22:57.41 | tarzeau | that's really odd, too |
| 22:57.46 | cthulfuego | Henryk: No, sarge does not have those ports open. |
| 22:57.58 | Henryk | ok, may be |
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| 22:58.06 | doub | Henryk: that's not enough to make a point, comparing gentoo to BSD. maybe a marketing guy's reason to shout loud, not a valuable one |
| 22:58.07 | citral | sure |
| 22:58.10 | cthulfuego | Woody did, sarge does not. |
| 22:58.14 | onre | not may be, but is. i just installed sarge two weeks ago, no open ports by default. |
| 22:58.16 | thingfish | bucky: yes, but why come here? why not go to #gentoo or #fedora? |
| 22:58.33 | bucky | this is where the authority is |
| 22:58.41 | shining | lol |
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| 22:58.44 | simonrvn_ | you don't fight authority by making a fool of yourself and spamming crap into them |
| 22:58.50 | simonrvn_ | s/them/channels/ |
| 22:58.52 | cthulfuego | thingfish: People who behave like that don't actually STAND OUT from the crowd on those channels. |
| 22:58.54 | thingfish | well really there's a grain of truth to that |
| 22:58.58 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:59.05 | Henryk | the homepage of debian.org still says "The latest stable release of Debian is 3.0" and that has open ports by default, so there you go |
| 22:59.06 | thingfish | good one cthulfuego |
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| 22:59.16 | helix | thingfish: aiui, a lot of channels have to deal with the same issues |
| 22:59.24 | helix | major distro channels anyway |
| 22:59.25 | cthulfuego | Henryk: Yes. When did I say it didn't? |
| 22:59.26 | Ronin | must be sad to be a gnaa and that be your only way to have enjoyment |
| 22:59.30 | thingfish | helix: yes, but I |
| 22:59.39 | Henryk | cthulfuego: you didn't. |
| 22:59.43 | bucky | simonrvn_, you do if you're a juvenile delinquent |
| 22:59.50 | idnar | Ronin: you're assuming that they don't do other things for enjoyment :P |
| 22:59.51 | thingfish | 've hung out on other channels, and they don't get as much weirdness as we do in here. |
| 22:59.52 | simonrvn_ | heheh, exactly |
| 22:59.56 | simonrvn_ | ;p |
| 22:59.56 | cthulfuego | helix: <heh> redhat and gentoo are minor eh? ;-) |
| 23:00.07 | helix | what are redhat and gentoo? |
| 23:00.13 | cthulfuego | helix: touche |
| 23:00.16 | thingfish | nasty little distro |
| 23:00.18 | Ronin | idnar: animals doesn't count, sick too i might add |
| 23:00.21 | bucky | juvenile delinquent defying adults |
| 23:00.46 | cthulfuego | helix: a gentoo is a pengiun species, red hats are what you get if you club a person wearing a hat with a large brick for two minutes. |
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| 23:00.50 | doub | thingfish: maybe because there's a bunch of weird people in here? |
| 23:00.52 | thingfish | don't insult animals, animals have more sense than some of these fools |
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| 23:01.12 | thingfish | doub: well, but *we're* all weird in a good sense. |
| 23:01.16 | Ronin | thingfish: without a doubt, but here we go falling into thier lame trap again talking about them |
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| 23:01.27 | paulswm | I agree with thingfish, my cat is smarter than some visitors here |
| 23:01.30 | thingfish | Ronin: by gosh, you're right. |
| 23:01.34 | vipersniper | smbclient -L xpserver returns this error--> "error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED" I have no firewall running on the xp machine and the shres mount fine from 98 box |
| 23:01.40 | runedude | hey, everyone.. i was wondering if anyone knew how to setup a few floppys to run the debian install |
| 23:01.51 | simonrvn_ | paulswm: fuck yeh, "mine" too (you can't own cats ;) |
| 23:01.51 | FieldySnuts | emokid is currently trolling #gentoo , big surprise |
| 23:01.53 | tarzeau | thingfish: true! http://www.animals.org/ save the animals |
| 23:01.53 | doub | thingfish: yes, that's what i'm about. but some people don't seem to understand the difference |
| 23:01.54 | Ronin | thingfish: happens occasionally :) |
| 23:01.55 | cthulfuego | vipersniper: Pass a username/passwd |
| 23:02.06 | Henryk | FieldySnuts: oh is he? I've got to see that |
| 23:02.10 | Doirani | runedude: where is the problem |
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| 23:02.17 | streuner | FieldySnuts: haha, how do you know? |
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| 23:02.21 | FieldySnuts | Henryk: same thing he did here, reasonable questions leading to more annoying ones |
| 23:02.24 | FieldySnuts | streuner: because i'm there |
| 23:02.28 | runedude | Doirani: the problem is , I must reinstall X :| |
| 23:02.32 | runedude | I mean debian |
| 23:02.32 | tarzeau | thingfish: and let's not forget the dolphins, http://www.southwest.com.au/~kirbyhs/dolphins.html |
| 23:02.35 | cthulfuego | FieldySnuts: you emokid |
| 23:02.37 | vipersniper | cthulfuego, whats the command |
| 23:02.38 | shining | FieldySnuts: lol right |
| 23:02.43 | doub | vipersniper: are you using woody? |
| 23:02.47 | thingfish | god bless the dolphins |
| 23:02.47 | runedude | Doirani: thefloppy thing on debian.org looks just, hard. |
| 23:03.02 | shining | FieldySnuts: you told them? |
| 23:03.04 | Doirani | runedude: U want to reinstall from 0 |
| 23:03.05 | FieldySnuts | cthulfuego: christ no, if i was that bored i'd have shot myself ages ago |
| 23:03.08 | vipersniper | doub, no 'sid' |
| 23:03.09 | paulswm | simonrvn: Yes! Dog thinks, "He feeds me, he gives me shelter, he must be a god." Cat thinks, "He feeds me, he gives me shelter, I must be a god." |
| 23:03.21 | simonrvn_ | hahah |
| 23:03.27 | cthulfuego | my cats troll me when they need pettins, maybe that's whet the #debian trolls really want too. Some fresh cat food and pettins... |
| 23:03.28 | m00p | heh |
| 23:03.34 | thingfish | HEHE paulswm |
| 23:03.39 | shingouz | runedude: just grab the floppy images, dd them on fresh floppies and boot off them, the install goes just like off a cd after that |
| 23:03.40 | FieldySnuts | hehe pet pet |
| 23:03.48 | doub | vipersniper: your username must exist on the server. otherwise use the -U switch |
| 23:03.49 | runedude | Doirani: i was hoping I could do something w/ my current installation of debian to fix all Gnome things, but |
| 23:03.50 | tarzeau | paulswm: heh |
| 23:03.53 | runedude | ehm |
| 23:03.54 | thingfish | I have two persians, they *are* gods |
| 23:03.55 | runedude | What images do I need? |
| 23:03.57 | paulswm | My Siamese cat does a very good impression of a baby being tirtured if she wants attention |
| 23:03.58 | AngryParsley | yeah, pets are lame |
| 23:03.58 | runedude | Like how many disks too? |
| 23:04.04 | paulswm | tortured |
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| 23:04.14 | AngryParsley | except for fish, fish are quiet and don't need much care |
| 23:04.19 | Nwallins | in dnsmasq.conf, i have resolv-file=/path/to/real-dns-servers (basically my old resolv.conf) if dnsmasq is working correctly, specifying nameserver 127.0.0.1 ought to be sufficient to have real DNS access, right? |
| 23:04.21 | abrotman | so are sheep |
| 23:04.34 | shingouz | runedude: depends on the setup you want to use. i think the bf24 needs four |
| 23:04.35 | cthulfuego | Fish are catfood |
| 23:04.36 | paulswm | My cat thinks it's cool that there's a Unix command 'cat' |
| 23:04.39 | vipersniper | doub, whats the full command with the -U switch to list shares |
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| 23:04.50 | runedude | shingouz: i really would like just a plain install, and maybe the package "apt" |
| 23:04.53 | runedude | so I can install stuff |
| 23:05.03 | Nwallins | cat barf > 'blaeaghsjrkej kjfdsjfje' |
| 23:05.04 | shingouz | runedude: that is what i am talking about |
| 23:05.04 | Doirani | runedude: If you have a running installation, with network you can "apt-get update" and "apt-get install xserver-common and xserver-xfree86" |
| 23:05.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: hehe sheep, doesn't he look like one? www.linuks.mine.nu/people/rigel/rigel.rigel.jpg |
| 23:05.07 | runedude | better yet, id like to just execute a netinstall from a floppy |
| 23:05.14 | doub | vipersniper: smbclient -L <nb name> -U <user name>. man smbclient for the gory details |
| 23:05.20 | runedude | Doirani: that doesnt work all |
| 23:05.22 | cthulfuego | vipersniper: smbclient -U user -L //machinename |
| 23:05.22 | runedude | well* |
| 23:05.31 | cthulfuego | vipersniper: That should prompt you for the password. |
| 23:05.40 | doub | cthulfuego: don't think it works with the // |
| 23:05.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: not me! |
| 23:05.41 | toukitsune | Does anyone know if there is drivers being made for BluRay disk drives? |
| 23:05.50 | tarzeau | someone wants to try emacs.app debian package? |
| 23:05.51 | abrotman | toukitsune: #kernel ? |
| 23:06.01 | abrotman | tarzeau: emacs .. and gnustep? .. |
| 23:06.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: yeah, and it fucking looks cool! |
| 23:06.09 | m00p | use \\ |
| 23:06.15 | cthulfuego | tarzeau: Sorry, only have 2GB of ram... |
| 23:06.19 | runedude | Can't I just get the LEAST minimum, then just run the installer like a netinstall would go? |
| 23:06.22 | Doirani | runedude: Install from CD (110m approx.). This would make things easyer. |
| 23:06.33 | runedude | Doirani: my cdburner is fucked on windows |
| 23:06.40 | doub | m00p: no, the point is, -L only wants the smb machine name, not path |
| 23:06.52 | cthulfuego | runedude: the business card CD is about 40MB and downloads evertything but the kernel... |
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| 23:07.00 | doub | m00p: and that would be \\\\ |
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| 23:07.09 | m00p | doub: i was just saying use \\ rather than // with paths |
| 23:07.21 | Doirani | runedude: Ok, I have to check for the URL of the boot-images, or do you have them allready ? |
| 23:07.21 | doub | m00p: that's what i got |
| 23:07.23 | cthulfuego | m00p: \\ is translated to \ |
| 23:07.29 | m00p | np then :) |
| 23:07.33 | runedude | Doirani: for floppys? |
| 23:07.37 | runedude | I dont have anything for floppys |
| 23:07.41 | Doirani | runedude: yes |
| 23:07.51 | Doirani | runedude: wait a minute |
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| 23:08.03 | runedude | lets see |
| 23:08.07 | runedude | i have 10 floppys |
| 23:08.14 | cthulfuego | '//HOSTNAME' works fine |
| 23:08.23 | abrotman | !why is xchat-systray not in testing |
| 23:08.24 | dpkg | xchat-systray is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=xchat-systray |
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| 23:09.05 | infinity1away | anyone here? |
| 23:09.10 | shining | no |
| 23:09.12 | m00p | no |
| 23:09.12 | doub | infinity1away: no |
| 23:09.16 | runedude | yes, infinity1 |
| 23:09.21 | m00p | heh |
| 23:09.39 | infinity1 | <-- bored. |
| 23:09.44 | thingfish | I guess. |
| 23:09.45 | Doirani | runedude: http://archive.progeny.com/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ |
| 23:09.47 | doub | runedude: maybe he would'nt have figured out |
| 23:09.54 | cthulfuego | infinity1: GO outside and play with a ball |
| 23:09.58 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 23:10.06 | runedude | so |
| 23:10.10 | runedude | what prog do I need to burn those? |
| 23:10.15 | infinity1 | cthulfuego: nah man. |
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| 23:10.23 | shingouz | runedude: you on linux now? |
| 23:10.28 | runedude | nope |
| 23:10.30 | runedude | windows |
| 23:10.32 | cthulfuego | runedude: 'rawrite' - one does not burn floppies unless from frustration |
| 23:10.34 | streuner | runedude: to a floppy-disc? |
| 23:10.34 | thingfish | gasp |
| 23:10.41 | shining | hmm yep gentoo get spammed too, same spam as here |
| 23:10.41 | runedude | streuner: yes |
| 23:10.41 | Doirani | runedude: yes |
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| 23:11.00 | runedude | ok, so i just write 1 of those to each floppy? |
| 23:11.00 | doub | infinity1: watch a movie |
| 23:11.01 | nipplesrulz | ok |
| 23:11.13 | streuner | runedude: /msg dpkg ig |
| 23:11.13 | nipplesrulz | how does one set one's system to english only again |
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| 23:11.16 | infinity1 | does vmware support 2.6 already? |
| 23:11.19 | citral | everytime someone says lol, god kills a little cat. |
| 23:11.23 | shining | doub: which one? |
| 23:11.23 | nipplesrulz | ive been invaded by portugese or something |
| 23:11.27 | doub | infinity1: not officially, but it works |
| 23:11.29 | shining | nipplesrulz: locale ? |
| 23:11.35 | m00p | infinity1: yeah works |
| 23:11.42 | supaman | my little kitten just died |
| 23:11.44 | runedude | What program do I need to make *.img files, Doirani. |
| 23:11.48 | Henryk | shining: and now we know the difference between gentoo and debian. Gentoo is better because he was automatically kicked |
| 23:11.49 | runedude | not make, but write |
| 23:11.49 | nipplesrulz | command not found |
| 23:11.50 | infinity1 | doub: ya. i know it works, but they need some suport already. |
| 23:11.55 | nipplesrulz | localconf not found either |
| 23:11.56 | cthulfuego | it would be really helpful if debhelper had an auto wordkick/ban on 'gentoo' and 'gnaa'. |
| 23:11.58 | doub | shining: that's a good question. but definitely not Shining |
| 23:12.09 | infinity1 | doub: when i run it on my 2.6 box, i can't packet sniff...or at least i think vmware is the culperate |
| 23:12.09 | nipplesrulz | lol cthulfuego |
| 23:12.15 | citral | everytime someone says lol, god kills a little cat. |
| 23:12.24 | shingouz | runedude: read the install manual. to write the images on a floppy under windows you have to use rawrite |
| 23:12.25 | Doirani | runedude: another possibilty is grldr if you have a NTFS partition or ... if you have a FAT °! |
| 23:12.26 | citral | SO STOP NOW. |
| 23:12.27 | nipplesrulz | LOL lol lololol |
| 23:12.30 | nipplesrulz | >_> |
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| 23:12.35 | runedude | ok |
| 23:12.38 | shining | Henryk: indeed |
| 23:12.42 | citral | arf, with such a nick |
| 23:12.44 | runedude | yes, I have xp |
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| 23:12.47 | doub | infinity1: not if you're not root. but that's ok, as allowing joe user to packet-sniff within vmware would overcome root-only packet sniffing |
| 23:12.50 | paulswm | stop it, citral, my cat's getting nervous |
| 23:12.51 | shining | doub: lol |
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| 23:12.54 | paulswm | :P |
| 23:12.59 | citral | paulswm: heh |
| 23:13.08 | Doirani | runedude: then you need another installer. But that is much easyer, you can boot directly from hd !! |
| 23:13.08 | shining | doub: you didn't like it at all? |
| 23:13.11 | a_monkey | i provided the proper links in my XF86Config-4 file and rebooted |
| 23:13.18 | a_monkey | terminus fonts still can't be accessed |
| 23:13.19 | doub | infinity1: besides, there is a switch in /proc (don't remember which, but i once had it work) to enable it |
| 23:13.26 | infinity1 | doub: 5.0 says "Now supporting many 2.6 kernels" |
| 23:13.30 | shining | doub: its right that it isnt his best movie |
| 23:13.52 | doub | shining: in fact i didn't see it. just kidding |
| 23:13.53 | infinity1 | doub: i mean promisc on the host system. |
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| 23:14.00 | karamelos | I am using ALSA, how can I preserve the mixer settings between reboots? |
| 23:14.09 | drac | karamelos: dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base |
| 23:14.15 | drac | karamelos: "always save." |
| 23:14.23 | karamelos | thanks drac |
| 23:14.37 | Henryk | (*tickle* Gentoo does that by default) |
| 23:14.40 | Doirani | runedude, http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/linux and initrd.gz will be enough !! |
| 23:14.45 | infinity1 | doub: when i run tcpdump 99% Of the packets get dropped by the kernel |
| 23:14.54 | m00p | heh |
| 23:15.13 | Henryk | infinity1: maybe they are coming to fast/your cpu is too slow? |
| 23:15.14 | drac | Henryk: ..like we care :) |
| 23:15.20 | doub | infinity1: that's strange. didn't notice such behavior with vmware 4.5.2 |
| 23:15.32 | doub | infinity1: but it repetedly states 2.6 is not supported |
| 23:15.38 | m00p | infinity1: by running vmware you taking a SERIOUS performance hit |
| 23:15.40 | infinity1 | Henryk: there is very little traffic and low cpu util. |
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| 23:16.01 | infinity1 | doub: 5.0 has a few listed. |
| 23:16.35 | shining | why are you running vmware ? |
| 23:16.41 | cthulfuego | doub: The 4.5 I have has 'linux with 2.6 kernel' as option on new VMs. |
| 23:16.53 | m00p | kinda thinkin that myself, and why packet sniffing |
| 23:16.54 | doub | infinity1: but not debian's anyway, i guess |
| 23:17.14 | doub | cthulfuego: yes, for guests, but we're speaking about 2.6 on the host |
| 23:17.21 | infinity1 | shining: that should be obvious. |
| 23:17.28 | shining | windows is already bad enough, it doesnt need to be emulated |
| 23:17.29 | doub | cthulfuego: not that guest os support matters much, anyway |
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| 23:17.32 | cthulfuego | doub: Aaaah, no... I run it on Windows. |
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| 23:18.10 | doub | shining: it's not vmware's unique purpose |
| 23:18.12 | citral | lagged |
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| 23:18.27 | citral | oobe| Ping Reply (2) Seconds .|| TROUBLE-WAREZ §Ç®îþt ||. |
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| 23:18.36 | shining | doub: installing another os is |
| 23:18.47 | m00p | packet sniffing in vmware, err why? why not do it natively? |
| 23:18.51 | infinity1 | oh shit. vmware 3.1 has 2.6 host OS's listed. |
| 23:18.57 | infinity1 | er i mean GSX 3.1 |
| 23:19.03 | citral | helix: everytime you say "lagged", oobe sends a ctctp ping reply. can you do something? |
| 23:19.09 | helix | lagged |
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| 23:19.48 | cyberdyn_ | Hey everybody......... |
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| 23:19.58 | thingfish | please don't, paulswm. |
| 23:20.00 | doub | shining: yes, or testing special environments |
| 23:20.14 | doub | shining: that doesn't mean windows |
| 23:20.17 | paulswm | thingfish: Yeah, the excerpts look pretty stupid to me |
| 23:20.28 | thingfish | paulswm: well isn't that a given? |
| 23:21.25 | shining | doub: hmm what for example ? And I thought that vmware was better for running windows. otherwise there are free alternatives I believe |
| 23:21.26 | FieldySnuts | squish |
| 23:21.34 | cthulfuego | i love squish |
| 23:21.41 | cthulfuego | squish the pet cluster lizard |
| 23:22.35 | thingfish | is that supposed to be conceptual art? |
| 23:22.45 | cthulfuego | thingfish: eh? |
| 23:22.57 | doub | shining: yes, but qemu, for example, is an emulator, not a virtualizer. xen requires a modified os version, and is not giving a full "real machine" environment |
| 23:23.05 | thingfish | that's quite the mental image |
| 23:23.05 | infinity1 | anyone know if you can test windows clustering using vmware? i guess a SAN tpye of disk that is shareable is required. |
| 23:23.24 | anyone | infinity1: no I don't |
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| 23:23.36 | infinity1 | hha. dope. |
| 23:23.50 | doub | shining: but let's hope we have an alternative soon |
| 23:23.51 | cthulfuego | thingfish: http://www.sadgeezer.com/lexx/squish.htm |
| 23:24.01 | m00p | windows and clustering in the same sentence, possible? news t ome if it is |
| 23:24.18 | shining | doub: ok |
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| 23:24.33 | thingfish | cthulfuego: ah, it's all clear to me now. |
| 23:24.43 | cthulfuego | thingfish: <heh> |
| 23:24.55 | cthulfuego | thingfish: I admi it may be better to find a website in english |
| 23:25.18 | grendal_prime | im haveing a problem in debian with an app compiling because it wants to use /includes |
| 23:25.23 | grendal_prime | does that make any sense? |
| 23:25.25 | thingfish | looks like english to me |
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| 23:25.49 | cthulfuego | thingfish: Yes, it looks ike it, but the many spelling and grammatical erros indicate it isn't. |
| 23:25.52 | m00p | and any case why u asking a windows or vmware Q in #debain? |
| 23:26.05 | m00p | o_O |
| 23:26.14 | citral | !aolify m00p |
| 23:26.20 | nagual | yea #dbaIn doesnt answer those questions |
| 23:26.23 | m00p | heh k |
| 23:26.28 | thingfish | cthulfuego: it's very purple. |
| 23:26.37 | grendal_prime | trying to install the accelerated kqemu from cvs |
| 23:26.53 | cthulfuego | thingfish: http://hemsidor.torget.se/users/m/Matze/other.html#s is a bit clearer (and marginally less hurties on the eyes) |
| 23:27.19 | doub | grendal_prime: wrong channel. here we talk about windows and vmware ;) |
| 23:27.23 | thingfish | cthulfuego: ah, ok. |
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| 23:28.07 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 23:28.16 | grendal_prime | well thats what qemu is |
| 23:28.17 | m00p | lol |
| 23:28.17 | infinity1 | m00p: debian is the host os for vmware+windows :) |
| 23:28.28 | abrotman | there is #vmware |
| 23:28.38 | infinity1 | there is #debian |
| 23:28.45 | abrotman | tard |
| 23:28.47 | grendal_prime | well im trying to get my vmware installed |
| 23:28.50 | infinity1 | :) |
| 23:29.01 | m00p | infinity1: i think you Q is probably more vmware related |
| 23:29.15 | citral | !nickometer m00p |
| 23:29.15 | dpkg | 'm00p' is 49.000% lame, citral |
| 23:29.16 | infinity1 | m00p: ...maybe :) |
| 23:29.23 | grendal_prime | Looks like im in the right place!!! |
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| 23:30.46 | doub | grendal_prime: open explorer, go to the right place. double click on SETUP.EXE. click "forward" "forward" "YES, i agree to be f*** in the ass with salt and sand" "forward" "forward". you're there |
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| 23:31.02 | Malf | This is probably due to me just being stupid about something but I'm trying to mount a usb storage device, which seems to be loading up fine and masquerading as SCSI and all that, but I have no /dev/sd* whatsoever |
| 23:31.11 | marska | Hello.. I'm trying to use wget and was wondering if someone new the command to catch a page? |
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| 23:31.35 | citral | marska: heh, wget url |
| 23:31.37 | Henryk | marska: "catch a page"? |
| 23:32.19 | Malf | so should /dev/sda be automatically created upon recognition of the device if I had things set up correctly? or should it be present otherwise anyway? |
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| 23:32.44 | doub | thingfish: because we're in a windows and vmware channel, aren't we? |
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| 23:33.07 | thingfish | doub: sure, whatever, it's happy hour so I don't care. |
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| 23:33.23 | doub | citral: just a troll. although quite dumb at times (such as now) |
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| 23:33.29 | thingfish | citral: guess where my bets are... |
| 23:33.38 | spity | hello |
| 23:33.42 | citral | alright for both. |
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| 23:34.47 | mikeX | Malf, see your kernel messages to see if the device was detected when attached |
| 23:34.56 | spity | i'm trying to use cacti to graph daily/monthly traffic, but the router resets fromt time to time, so i can't use COUNTER type for RRA, what type would be the best? |
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| 23:35.30 | mikeX | Malf, but if the device ain't there, guess what : ( |
| 23:35.49 | doub | citral: but this was intended to be ironic. i know i have a very bad sense of humor, but when dumbness comes by, i can't help but be so. |
| 23:35.51 | marska | Where does wget save the pages to? |
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| 23:36.04 | Henryk | marska: to the current directory |
| 23:36.06 | Mithsir | Hi! Will apache-perl speed up my perl-CMS? |
| 23:36.08 | mikeX | Malf, what kernel are you using? |
| 23:36.09 | Malf | mikeX: it was detected just fine. Usb spots the device. then SCSI emulation for a mass storage device shows up, |
| 23:36.16 | Malf | mikeX: 2.6.8 |
| 23:36.19 | citral | !comfort doub |
| 23:36.20 | dpkg | There, there, doub. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 23:36.44 | mikeX | Malf, and still no sd*? |
| 23:36.48 | doub | dpkg, thanks |
| 23:36.49 | dpkg | doub: my pleasure |
| 23:36.53 | Malf | mikeX: then another scsi message comes up showing the proper size of the drive. then two messages saying sda: assuming write enabled, and assumign drive cache: write through come up |
| 23:36.55 | marska | Henryk: How can I find the "current directory" ? |
| 23:36.58 | Malf | mikeX: nope nothing |
| 23:37.06 | gnufan | marska, with the same name it had - possibly with a number on the end like VMS |
| 23:37.14 | Henryk | marska: that's the directory you're currently in |
| 23:37.16 | caphuso | *sigh* wine hates me |
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| 23:37.36 | mikeX | Malf, you sure there are no other messages later, like timeout on epin.. or something? |
| 23:37.37 | Malf | mikeX: and then a few mroe messages saying that a scsi removable disk has been attached at scsi1 |
| 23:37.41 | citral | caphuso: stay with beer then. |
| 23:37.42 | Malf | mikeX: none at all |
| 23:37.43 | marska | But I'm just in a root terminal.. |
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| 23:37.54 | gnufan | caphuso, that is just success as far as the WINE project goes - indistinguishable from Windows in that regard |
| 23:37.57 | doub | caphuso: i love wine. french one, preferably. althought that's chauvinistic (is that word english ?) |
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| 23:38.12 | citral | chauvinistic uh |
| 23:38.15 | marska | No.. Its hungarian for "jackass" |
| 23:38.25 | caphuso | gnufan: well, windows does what i need it for |
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| 23:38.34 | citral | très mauvais englicisme |
| 23:38.37 | Malf | mikeX: So would I be correct in assuming it should be creating the file /dev/sda when the device gets connected then? so that it shouldn't exist when it's not attached? |
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| 23:38.52 | Henryk | spity: from my limited understanding COUNTER is still the correct type. You just need to set proper upper and lower boundaries so that it will ignore the huge values it gets after a reset |
| 23:38.54 | cthulfuego | citral: pff, moet dat nou? |
| 23:39.04 | citral | !doe cthulfuego |
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| 23:39.20 | mikeX | Malf, yes (i think) |
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| 23:39.25 | gnufan | caphuso, what are you running WINE for anyway - I've survived without it for years... |
| 23:39.27 | idnar | what does "doe" mean? |
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| 23:39.29 | spity | Henryk: can you elaborate more please? |
| 23:39.30 | cthulfuego | !tell citral -about haasje |
| 23:39.35 | m00p | Malf: depends on your /dev 'stuff', prolly yes |
| 23:39.40 | caphuso | gnufan: V:tM Redemption |
| 23:40.15 | ndlong1 | hallo |
| 23:40.15 | Malf | yeah. I'd assumed so |
| 23:40.15 | Malf | so chances are there's some little stupid thing somewhere I've managed to miss |
| 23:40.15 | doub | citral: chauvinism sounds better. so it's even possible to learn new things on #debian ! ;) |
| 23:40.15 | Malf | thanks for the support. it's reassuring at the least |
| 23:40.26 | citral | doub: yeah, that sounds really better |
| 23:40.31 | ndlong1 | does anyone think that ubuntu is better than debian ? |
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| 23:40.53 | m00p | for the first time user, yes |
| 23:40.55 | maher | ndlong1: maybe the people in #ubuntu |
| 23:40.55 | Doirani | on |
| 23:40.57 | Doirani | no |
| 23:40.59 | shining | ndlong1: its maybe easier, but it doesnt mean better |
| 23:41.00 | Henryk | spity: above the input field for the type there are two fields for minimum value and maximum value. Put some reasonable values in there and anything else will be ignored |
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| 23:41.03 | shingouz | ndlong1: you are in #debian, what do you think we answer here? |
| 23:41.09 | citral | cthulfuego: uh, the hunter plays drums and fishes two nice girls. that's my version. |
| 23:41.11 | drac | ndlong1: go ask in #ubuntu 'does anyone think that debian is better than ubuntu ?' |
| 23:41.20 | shining | lol |
| 23:41.32 | doublehp | how do I refresh /usr/share/Eterm/pix/pixmaps.list ? the format does not look trivial to me. |
| 23:41.43 | Doirani | I ve tried ubuntu, but even the network config doesnt work ??!! |
| 23:41.43 | Henryk | spity: then when the counter is reset rrd will think that it's an overflow and generate huge values which should be above your set maximum value and will be ignored |
| 23:41.44 | cthulfuego | ndlong1: It depends 100% on what you mean by 'better'. |
| 23:41.48 | Malf | I suppose I'll be back later afetr some more fiddling |
| 23:41.50 | Malf | thanks |
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| 23:42.15 | shining | Doirani: you arent lucky |
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| 23:42.42 | tarzeau | dpkg cowkiss is http://cekirdek.uludag.org.tr/~caglar/blog/images/blipp_99.jpg |
| 23:42.43 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 23:43.06 | citral | !mushroom porn |
| 23:43.06 | dpkg | [mushroom porn] http://www.boners.com/grub/791568.html |
| 23:43.07 | Doirani | shining: I mean the config with the gui.That is what ubuntu is know for |
| 23:43.15 | dabreegster | citral: wtf? |
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| 23:43.40 | Doirani | I have to work at /etc/network/interface as known from every normal linux distro |
| 23:43.43 | spity | Henryk: "Maximum Value -- The maximum value of data that is allowed to be collected." this field i suppose |
| 23:44.06 | Doirani | s/e/es/ |
| 23:44.07 | spity | Henryk: so far i have there the maximum number possbile - 9223372036854775807 |
| 23:44.08 | spity | :) |
| 23:44.22 | citral | dabreegster: did I speak to you? |
| 23:44.30 | citral | sorry I don't see |
| 23:44.35 | dabreegster | citral: no. but what's with the mushroom porn? lol. |
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| 23:44.48 | citral | dabreegster: ah, just go to the url :) |
| 23:44.59 | dabreegster | citral: I did. I regret it. That's just odd. |
| 23:45.06 | citral | meh |
| 23:45.09 | bslug | tarzeau: hey |
| 23:45.17 | citral | badger badger badger |
| 23:45.19 | bslug | <= jharrison |
| 23:45.21 | tarzeau | bslug: hey |
| 23:45.34 | bslug | tarzeau: how are you? |
| 23:46.00 | tarzeau | bslug: fine and who are you? |
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| 23:46.08 | Henryk | spity: so think of a reasonable maximum and put it in there. What is reasonable depends on what you're measuring. Traffic you said? so multiply your bandwith with the time and add 10 percent or so |
| 23:46.09 | m00p | heh |
| 23:46.13 | bslug | tarzeau: im jharrison |
| 23:46.23 | tarzeau | bslug: heh, how's the cocks burning? |
| 23:46.23 | bslug | tarzeau: im in a LUG meeting right now |
| 23:46.29 | bslug | tarzeau: heh |
| 23:46.35 | bslug | tarzeau: goatse.cx? |
| 23:46.39 | dabreegster | If I open() a file with +< (so I can read it and append it), is there a way I can make the file be set to undef (or what rm file; touch file would do) without actually unlinking the file and stuff? |
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| 23:47.03 | spity | Henryk: time? |
| 23:47.03 | doublehp | how do I refresh /usr/share/Eterm/pix/pixmaps.list ? the format does not look trivial to me. |
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| 23:47.43 | tyu | any LVM grand masters in here? |
| 23:47.46 | Henryk | spity: what is the datasource measuring? transferred bytes per day or something like that? |
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| 23:48.10 | m00p | tyu: ask the Q, someone might help |
| 23:48.17 | citral | !q |
| 23:48.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, q is C * V, or quadra |
| 23:48.30 | spity | Henryk: ifconfig |
| 23:48.46 | cthulfuego | dabreegster: You can open and zero the file. |
| 23:48.51 | Doirani | tarzeau: ocp doesnt work fine on the 75MHz PI. A little better than mpg123, but the audio stream is not continuous. |
| 23:49.06 | lashkar | how good is debian as a mythtv box? |
| 23:49.08 | cthulfuego | dabreegster: O_TRUNC |
| 23:49.11 | spity | Henryk: the thing is my ISP doesn't provide counters and i have data limit per month, so i want to monitor transferred data |
| 23:49.22 | dabreegster | cthulfuego: I open it again with that mode? |
| 23:49.27 | tarzeau | Doirani: i see, i've used mpg321 iwht some options., madplay would work better (see man madplay) |
| 23:49.31 | cthulfuego | dabreegster: what language are you using? |
| 23:49.35 | Henryk | spity: ok, so that's probably bytes per second |
| 23:49.44 | dabreegster | cthulfuego: ... perl. |
| 23:49.53 | cthulfuego | dabreegster: Oh, dunno nuffin about perl. |
| 23:50.09 | spity | Henryk: nono, it doesn't output 'current' traffic but rather transferred data over the interface |
| 23:50.12 | dabreegster | cthulfuego: I mean, do I open() it again to clean it? How do I do the O_TRUNC thing? That a sub? |
| 23:50.13 | Nwallins | ok, this is a bit off-topic, but, the FAQ for dnsmasq is telling me that i need to set each lanbox's domain to 'localnet' that's cool. any idea how to do this on winXP/os x? tia |
| 23:50.34 | cthulfuego | dabreegster: No, it's C open() syntax. |
| 23:50.40 | doub | dabreegster: maybe use sys_open with O_TRUNC. but that's not a beautiful solution |
| 23:50.41 | Henryk | spity: hmm, you said you were using COUNTER? |
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| 23:50.59 | spity | Henryk: not yet |
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| 23:51.04 | dabreegster | I'll just unlink before I open each time |
| 23:51.04 | citral | dabreegster: man perlopentut |
| 23:51.05 | Doirani | tarzeau: where to get madplayer for sarge ? apt-get on standard debian.org doesnt offer that. |
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| 23:51.09 | spity | Henryk: i was an idiot and used GAUGUE |
| 23:51.11 | Delph | Nwallins: open the network dialog, then click on each button, doing a depth-first search of all the config options, until you find one which lets you set the domain |
| 23:51.23 | tarzeau | Doirani: just madplay |
| 23:51.23 | Nwallins | Delph: heh |
| 23:51.28 | Delph | Nwallins: the 'windows way' of finding config options. |
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| 23:51.35 | Delph | Nwallins: or prod ipconfig, maybe? |
| 23:51.40 | doub | dabreegster: see the perlfunc manpage, there obviously is an equivalent to O_TRUNC in perl's open |
| 23:51.48 | dabreegster | doub: alright |
| 23:51.52 | citral | dabreegster: man perlopentut |
| 23:51.53 | Doirani | tarzeau: ok |
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| 23:52.10 | Nwallins | there is an option called 'DNS suffix' |
| 23:52.11 | *** mode/#debian [-q *!*@pool-71-101-202-87.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] by caphuso |
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| 23:52.53 | m00p | Nwallins: now you havnt read the docs have you? |
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| 23:52.59 | Delph | m00p: which docs? |
| 23:53.13 | Delph | m00p: you know of documentation for windows networking? showshow! |
| 23:53.19 | doub | just a stupid question, what's the q channel mode about ? |
| 23:53.32 | Delph | doub: quiet |
| 23:53.33 | caphuso | doub: quiet |
| 23:53.43 | Henryk | spity: oh, ok. Well COUNTER (according to the rrdcreate man page) takes an ever-increasing counter and makes a per second rate from it. So if you were using COUNTER you would be having bytes per second (provided that you read the bytes value from ifconfig). Then just see what your connection speed is (e.g. 1 MBit/s) and convert that to bytes/s (would be 125k), add some safety margin (which makes, say, 150 kbytes/s) and use that value |
| 23:53.44 | Nwallins | m00p: mostly, i'm having a translation problem. i am not sure what windows option to set |
| 23:54.04 | chealer | Delph: how are your GTK troubles? |
| 23:54.08 | Nwallins | on os x, there is a 'Search domains' field, does that sound right? |
| 23:54.22 | doub | caphuso: that's sort of read-only then ? |
| 23:54.24 | m00p | Delph: made the assumption here on bind here, i am quiclky scanning text, windows dunno |
| 23:54.26 | Delph | chealer: fixed by moving the memory from slots 1 and 3 to 1 and 2. |
| 23:54.29 | caphuso | doub: yes |
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| 23:54.44 | doub | caphuso: ok thanks |
| 23:54.46 | Henryk | spity: if you want to have a total transferred from that later on you will have to do some other things in cacti/rrd to sum things up. And I'm afraid I can't help you with that |
| 23:54.49 | Delph | chealer: something about it was just randomly corrupting bits of memory. |
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| 23:55.08 | Nwallins | is there an os x chan on freenode? #osx was empty |
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| 23:55.17 | spity | Henryk: aha, ok, thanks very much! |
| 23:55.23 | chealer | Delph: see? :) |
| 23:55.24 | Delph | so the stack kept on being corrupted. Memtest86 didn't find it, but someone else at work had had the same problem with a similar motherboard. |
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| 23:55.39 | caphuso | Nwallins: ##macosx |
| 23:55.45 | Nwallins | caphuso: thx |
| 23:55.54 | chealer | Delph: ah...what's that mobo? |
| 23:55.58 | caphuso | stupid new policy |
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| 23:56.08 | citral | doub: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 23:56.39 | drac | Why esound doesn't provide script in init.d? Am I missing something here? |
| 23:56.58 | drac | ..or am I forced to write my own?! |
| 23:56.59 | caphuso | drac: the concept that esound isn't a system service started at boottime |
| 23:57.30 | doublehp | how do I refresh /usr/share/Eterm/pix/pixmaps.list ? the format does not look trivial to me. |
| 23:57.32 | drac | d'oh. in my case it is, i'm using it as remote daemon on no-X server. |
| 23:57.36 | Henryk | spity: I'm using it only for data rate, as my isp gives me their traffic counter values. See http://gleam.homeip.net/cacti/graph.php?rra_id=all&local_graph_id=14 and yes, there's an ugly spike in the yearly graph which was caused by such a reset before I found out about the importance of the maximum value |
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| 23:57.53 | drac | but nevermind, i'll just copy one ready init.d script, edit it, and run update-rc.d esd defaults. |
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| 23:58.22 | Doirani | tarzeau: madplay doesnt convince either. ocp was the best at moment. |
| 23:58.32 | BigRob | I am having a issue with the Sarge RC3 when I run the net install from cd and it will boot and it will install the base but when it after it reboots and it and while debian is loading the kernel sigfaults on something with i810 modules a some S36discovery script and then trys loading usb suport and just hangs. Right now I am using ubuntu with out issue but I really dont like ubuntu and have sarge on this laptop |
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| 23:58.41 | BigRob | side note I was having this issue with my Sarge RC1 net install disc too hence why i tried rc3 |
| 23:58.47 | tarzeau | Doirani: cool |
| 23:59.01 | BigRob | I am having a issue with the Sarge RC3 when I run the net install from cd and it will boot and it will install the base but when it after it reboots and it and while debian is loading the kernel sigfaults on something with i810 modules a some S36discovery script and then trys loading usb suport and just hangs. Right now I am using ubuntu with out issue but I really dont like ubuntu and have sarge on this laptop |
| 23:59.03 | Doirani | Hm |
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| 23:59.08 | dondelelcaro | BigRob: please don't repeat. |
| 23:59.19 | lunaphyte | way-off topic - anyone see any decent deals on UPSes recently? |
| 23:59.28 | maher | lunaphyte: tigerdirect |
| 23:59.28 | m00p | BigRob: yeah what that guy said |
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| 23:59.32 | m00p | heh |
| 23:59.38 | BigRob | donelecaro, my network cable came out the back did not know the first one got through |
| 23:59.40 | caphuso | BigRob: didn't you say you'd behave this time just a few minutes ago? |
| 23:59.55 | BigRob | caphuso, this is the problem with you debian guys |
