| 00:00.01 | shimano55 | Didn't work dude |
| 00:00.18 | shimano55 | typed in startx and got "startx: Bash, unknown command |
| 00:00.20 | shimano55 | " |
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| 00:00.45 | caphuso | shimano55: uh, then you forgot to install xfree86... apt-get install x-system-core |
| 00:00.46 | Tourinho | directhex okey.. but about my problem u dont have any clue? |
| 00:00.51 | drac | Hmm. /etc/modules.conf doesn't have line for usbhid, and modconf doesn't add it there. It just adds line to /etc/modules without parameters I have given for it. Does this look correct: options usbhid mousepoll=2 (If I add that manually to modules.conf?) |
| 00:01.01 | directhex | <directhex> shimano55, trivially. install xfree86, gnome, and gdm |
| 00:01.10 | caphuso | shimano55: damn, apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 00:01.12 | shimano55 | caphuso, ok |
| 00:01.15 | dvs | Tourinho: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 and pick one to download |
| 00:01.26 | shimano55 | got it |
| 00:01.27 | shimano55 | thanks |
| 00:01.39 | caphuso | 750 nicks and i still have to correct my own mistakes... you all suck! :) |
| 00:01.49 | Tourinho | dvs okey.. Ill try it.. thank you all! |
| 00:02.14 | dabreegster | caphuso: most of us are idling. |
| 00:02.16 | directhex | caphuso, i'm still confused as to why you're avoiding a *dm when he clearly wants one |
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| 00:03.09 | caphuso | directhex: i'm not avoiding the *dm, i'm avoiding xfs, xprt and twm |
| 00:03.31 | caphuso | plus, you already told him about gdm, so why should i bother with imposing that pain upon him too? |
| 00:04.11 | phaedral | browsing games packages while install runs on other box...anyone tried lincity? |
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| 00:04.38 | drac | phaedral: try neverball 8) |
| 00:04.52 | phaedral | drac: will give it a gander |
| 00:05.01 | phaedral | usually i'm exclusively a nethack guy |
| 00:05.08 | martha | To convert ext2 to ext3, should I just do `tune2fs -j /dev/hda7` or is there more to it? Does the FS have to be unmounted? |
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| 00:05.23 | dabreegster | phaedral: lincity is ok. you like nethack? get crawl. |
| 00:05.31 | caphuso | martha: no, it doesn't, but you need to umount it before it actually starts working as ext3 |
| 00:05.36 | drac | martha: No it doesn't. Looks ok to me. Just change it from /etc/fstab too. |
| 00:05.36 | dvs | martha: That's about it. "tune2fs -c 0" doesn't hurt either. |
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| 00:05.44 | dabreegster | phaedral: I also find sabre fun. and most interactive fiction/text adventure games (wurb.com/if) |
| 00:06.08 | shingouz | martha: if you can unmount it go for the safe route and do so |
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| 00:07.23 | madclicker | ahoy |
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| 00:07.58 | martha | dvs: are you sure about `tune2fs -c 0` ? The man page urges extreme caution regarding this, and doesn't say it's OK for ext3. |
| 00:08.15 | phaedral | 540 packges and counting in my "only selected desktop environment" install |
| 00:08.18 | phaedral | ;) |
| 00:08.45 | directhex | desktop environment = x, kde, gnome, and lots of crap for both kde and gnome |
| 00:09.12 | dvs | martha: Yeah. The howto guide that I read said to do this. If your filesystem gets corrupted, that's what the ext3 journal is suppose to correct. |
| 00:09.14 | martha | shingouz: what is the safe route? |
| 00:09.14 | pipeline | tasksel evil |
| 00:09.25 | shingouz | martha: unmount and tune |
| 00:09.35 | pipeline | phaedral: If you just wanted a desktop environment, you should have installed "gnome-desktop-environment" or "kdebase" |
| 00:09.38 | madclicker | Need help with Sarge: Audigy2, alsa-1.0.8, alsamixer- gui based volume control does not correspond to "alsamixer". After every restart I get no sound. SOS |
| 00:09.41 | pipeline | phaedral: tasksel will drag in tons and tons of stuff |
| 00:09.56 | pipeline | phaedral: whereas the two metapackages I mentioned will drag in just tons ;) |
| 00:10.17 | karsten | How does a Debian system know what arch it is? |
| 00:10.22 | pipeline | madclicker: After restarting, no sound, sounds like youneed to run "alsactl store" |
| 00:10.24 | joloc | anyone know how atmel_cs relates to pcmf502* (atmelwlandriver)? does it replace those? |
| 00:10.39 | pipeline | karsten: I would assume it uses uname, as debian doesn't have multiple-arch support at the moment |
| 00:10.44 | phaedral | pipeline: better late than never ;) |
| 00:10.47 | pipeline | karsten: Isn't multi-arch on the list of things for etch? |
| 00:10.49 | karsten | Eg: what's the differenct between i386 and amd64? |
| 00:10.57 | phaedral | just happy to be going real sarge at last |
| 00:10.57 | karsten | pipeline: NFC. |
| 00:11.06 | pipeline | karsten: NFC? |
| 00:11.12 | liable | madclicker: remove the gui one, you dont need it |
| 00:11.27 | karsten | Question arises, 'coz we're looking at migrating an i386 (well, i586) box to amd64 |
| 00:11.31 | simonrvn | @nfc |
| 00:11.31 | ravenbird | i heard nfc is No Fucking Clue |
| 00:11.34 | karsten | !tell pipeline about NFC |
| 00:11.46 | madclicker | pipeline: thx, btw, any clue as to why "Volume controler" has only half of the settings of alsamixer? |
| 00:12.03 | pipeline | karsten: Well, talking to an aquaintance on Ars, multi-arch support is supposed to be officially supported in etch |
| 00:12.10 | pipeline | karsten: So that you could do things like upgrade between architectures |
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| 00:12.13 | phaedral | !tell phaedral about NFC |
| 00:12.22 | karsten | I've got a few migration scenarios. One is to do an AMD64 Debian Sarge install and reinstall from a package list. |
| 00:12.26 | pipeline | karsten: Or have one system that has both amd64 and i386 binaries in it, in a sane way, integrated into the packaging. |
| 00:12.40 | pipeline | karsten: Or, if you wanted, both ARM and SPARC binaries in it :P |
| 00:12.43 | karsten | The other option would be an in-place dist-upgrade from I32 to AMD64. |
| 00:12.51 | martha | thanks everyone |
| 00:12.54 | karsten | pipeline: Yeah, I'm fearing a bit of a clusterfsck. |
| 00:12.57 | madclicker | pipeline: "/usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1221: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing" |
| 00:13.18 | karsten | pipeline: *That* is a sick thought. |
| 00:13.40 | pipeline | karsten: People have said that about a lot of things about debian, but most things seem to have turned out well :) |
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| 00:13.47 | pipeline | madclicker: alsactl store is something you run as root. |
| 00:13.52 | karsten | pipeline: Now, a *really* cool dual-arch box would be ARM + PA-RISC. |
| 00:14.00 | pipeline | madclicker: You can also "dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base" in order to make it load and store settings on boot and shutdown. |
| 00:14.06 | karsten | pipeline: ...the question being, would you want to RISC an ARM to try it.... |
| 00:14.20 | simonrvn | *groan* |
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| 00:14.35 | pipeline | karsten: I'm trying to think of a use for that sort of thing. I could see wanting bi-arch for say, SPARC and i386, or i386 and ARM, if you were to write kernel drivers for a co-processor development board or something. |
| 00:14.40 | madclicker | pipeline: roger |
| 00:14.44 | karsten | simonrvn: pain transference? |
| 00:15.02 | DeathWolf | hum... is there a known problem with kernel 2.6.x, and ext3 filesystems? because i've been recompiling my kernel dozens of times, trying all option, i tried everything in grub, but i always get "Kernel panic: not syncing: vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block 0,0" |
| 00:15.04 | karsten | pipeline: *My* only use for it was fabricating a really atrocious pun. |
| 00:15.06 | pipeline | karsten: I guess the obvious motive is to get amd64 and i386 playing nice together. |
| 00:15.10 | DeathWolf | a 2.4 kernel with exactly the same optins boots fine |
| 00:15.18 | pipeline | karsten: Instead of having to futz with a chroot :9 |
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| 00:15.37 | pipeline | DeathWolf: There are known problems, but that is not a symptom of such a problem. |
| 00:15.39 | karsten | pipeline: I thought AMD64 could virtualize I32, being the whole point. |
| 00:15.47 | karsten | pipeline: Dual cores and all that. |
| 00:15.48 | DeathWolf | pipeline, any idea what could cause that? |
| 00:15.49 | pipeline | karsten: It can, but I'm talking about getting it to play nice with the package system. |
| 00:16.07 | karsten | pipeline: System virtualization's IMO going to be more popular as time goes by. |
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| 00:16.28 | pipeline | karsten: As it stands today, if you run a 64 bit kernel, you can use a 32 bit userland fine |
| 00:16.33 | pipeline | karsten: the thing is the package manager |
| 00:16.45 | pipeline | karsten: dpkg and apt don't expect you to be installing packages from two different architectures |
| 00:17.06 | karsten | pipeline: Right. |
| 00:17.43 | pipeline | DeathWolf: You don't have the appropriate drivers loaded at boot. Have you tried building from a stock configuration? (i.e. copy a configuration file from /boot/ to kernelsourcetree/.config ) |
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| 00:18.13 | pipeline | karsten: Me, I would put in a new drive, mount it somewhere, format it, and do the chroot with package list thing you just mentioned. |
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| 00:18.51 | karsten | pipeline: New box is outfitted w/ two drives ATM. |
| 00:18.58 | karsten | pipeline: ...so that's more-or-less the plan. |
| 00:19.13 | pipeline | karsten: /var is going to be the fun part :P |
| 00:19.50 | karsten | pipeline: One problem being that the new (target) drive == small, slow 4 GB, which means I need to install onto it, shuffle stuff from the 80GB, then shuffle back.... |
| 00:20.39 | pipeline | karsten: yeah, but shuffling back is the easy part. It's just a mount and a pair of tar commands. |
| 00:20.42 | DeathWolf | pipeline, i dont have any 2.6 working config, i tried using the default one menuconfig provides |
| 00:20.45 | DeathWolf | but no luck so far |
| 00:21.07 | karsten | pipeline: Yeah, it's just that you've got to blow stuff away at some point, and want to make sure you've got all you want to keep. |
| 00:21.18 | pipeline | DeathWolf: Install a debian 2.6 kernel package, install a debian 2.6 kernel source tree, copy the /boot/config-<foo> file to .config inside the source tree, and THEN use menuconfig. |
| 00:21.26 | jharrison | debian gives toy story a whole new meaning |
| 00:21.27 | shingouz | DeathWolf: i suspect you need to have the drivers for your root filesystem statically in the kernel instead of modules or make an initrd |
| 00:21.28 | karsten | pipeline: Other issue is that there's a gazillion packages installed and restoring them is going to be a PITA. |
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| 00:21.42 | pipeline | DeathWolf: Then you'll have a known-working source tree and configuration, you can build that, and then start patching and making changes to the configuariton. |
| 00:21.52 | karsten | pipeline: ...particularly as they can't be cached from current (ia32) versions. |
| 00:21.59 | pipeline | karsten: Yeah, /var is going to be ugly. Lots of potentially architecture-specific configuration files in there. |
| 00:22.02 | karsten | pipeline: Reasonably fast link, but it's still a few hours d/l. |
| 00:22.11 | Ugly | ahh huh |
| 00:22.18 | pipeline | karsten: Heh, you mean you don't have a complete package tree locally? ;) |
| 00:23.00 | pipeline | DeathWolf: Honestly, I use the stock kernel on my notebook and my desktop. I don't bother compiling any more. If you can possibly avoid building a kernel, I suggest you do so. |
| 00:23.21 | DeathWolf | stock kernel is 2.4 x.x |
| 00:23.25 | dvs | pipeline: but it's so much fun... ;-) |
| 00:23.29 | pipeline | DeathWolf: There's lots of stock kernels available. |
| 00:23.44 | pipeline | dvs: For some value of fun that involves being twelve and having nothing else to do :P |
| 00:23.44 | resiak | DeathWolf: apt-cache search kernel-image | less |
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| 00:25.05 | Guerin | why doesn't anyone choose names like 'LifeWolf' |
| 00:25.05 | madclicker | pipeline: any clue as to why the base is so horrible distorted? |
| 00:25.05 | Guerin | or 'LifeBunny' |
| 00:25.05 | shimano55 | shingouz, hey man |
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| 00:25.08 | shingouz | shimano55: yo |
| 00:25.11 | sun_ | hi which package has dig and host in it? |
| 00:25.13 | FieldySnuts | natg heh |
| 00:25.20 | Guerin | sun_: dnsutils |
| 00:25.24 | shimano55 | shingouz, I'm on Debian =) |
| 00:25.37 | shingouz | shimano55: you are? nice! was the install hard? |
| 00:26.00 | shimano55 | well...I didn't really get the mouse set-up part...but I just guessed...and its working...so... |
| 00:26.01 | bashusrSE | i'm on gentoo.. |
| 00:26.16 | shingouz | shimano55: excellent :) congrats, man |
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| 00:26.28 | shimano55 | haha..thanks for introducing me =) |
| 00:26.33 | shingouz | :) |
| 00:26.36 | sun_ | thanks guerin |
| 00:26.38 | sun_ | ~> |
| 00:26.39 | apt | i heard > is redirection of stdout to a file. |
| 00:27.30 | shimano55 | Question: I'm a PHP web developer who just switched to Debain (Sarge). I got apache off of synaptic with no troubles, but I'm having problems figuring out which PHP is just PHP and which Mysql is just Mysql....can anyone help? |
| 00:27.45 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 00:28.11 | bob2 | shimano55: mysql-server, libapache2-mod-php4 for apache2, php4 for apache1. |
| 00:28.15 | challenged | ok possibly a dumb question....vncserver to allow me to take over the desktop im currently running ...is that desktop 1? |
| 00:29.19 | shimano55 | bob2, thanks |
| 00:29.24 | karsten | simonrvn: 'Tis better to SEGV than HumVee. |
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| 00:29.38 | dvs | karsten: no it's not! |
| 00:29.39 | simonrvn | karsten: aye |
| 00:29.49 | Guerin | flying vee? |
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| 00:30.05 | karsten | shimano55: If you've got specific tools / goals in mind, use what they recommend. Eg: Drupal, or other web-based stuff. |
| 00:30.12 | `vincent | hrm is it possible to disable password login for only one users (so they can only login w/ an ssh key) ? |
| 00:30.20 | shimano55 | karsten, ok..thansk |
| 00:30.23 | karsten | shimano55: Otherwise, in general, go with the latest'n'greatest versions, unless there are compelling reasons not to. |
| 00:30.31 | Pepina | hola |
| 00:30.40 | simonrvn | `vincent: don't need to disable password to use a ssh key |
| 00:30.42 | Guerin | `vincent: just make their password a 128-byte randomly-generated string |
| 00:30.52 | karsten | `vincent: 'PasswordAuthentication no' in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 00:31.02 | Guerin | karsten: that does for all users, no? |
| 00:31.19 | simonrvn | ...and i'll point out you don't need to do that |
| 00:31.20 | karsten | Guerin: Better to 'passwd -l <user>' |
| 00:31.25 | karsten | Guerin: Yes. |
| 00:31.29 | Guerin | karsten: that works too. |
| 00:31.32 | karsten | `vincent: Oh... |
| 00:31.38 | `vincent | well, i'm curious because i'm creating an account to do backups on a bunch of production machines, i only want it to be able to login with it's ssh key to scp the data out |
| 00:31.53 | karsten | `vincent: Enable RSAAuth (should be by default) and lock user's password (passwd -l). |
| 00:32.04 | `vincent | oh password lock, hot thanks |
| 00:32.12 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 00:32.13 | karsten | `vincent: Look up "forced command" |
| 00:32.21 | shimano55 | karsten, If i want to use PHP to query the mysql database do I need php-mysql |
| 00:32.23 | shimano55 | ? |
| 00:32.39 | karsten | shimano55: In general, yes, that's going to help ;-) |
| 00:32.48 | shimano55 | shingouz, Now where are these ndiswrapper packages u were talking about? |
| 00:33.29 | pipeline | madclicker: Is your volume way, way up? Some chipsets are only capable of faithful reproduction inside a certain range, and the windows drivers will not allow you to set it outside of that. |
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| 00:34.01 | shingouz | shimano55: uh.. apt-cache search ndiswrapper |
| 00:34.15 | shingouz | that should at least give something i think |
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| 00:34.55 | FieldySnuts | be happy |
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| 00:35.15 | shingouz | FieldySnuts: i am, i use orinocos here most of the time. they rfmon nicely |
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| 00:36.08 | sussudio | badger bit off both your legs... don't worry, be happy... |
| 00:36.25 | FieldySnuts | heh i have a server at work called badger |
| 00:36.27 | karsten | shimano55: ndiswrapper == use Windows drivers under Linux. |
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| 00:36.41 | simonrvn | sussudio: heh |
| 00:36.44 | sussudio | in soviet russia, badgers run a server called FieldySnuts. |
| 00:36.48 | FieldySnuts | haha |
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| 00:36.54 | shimano55 | I love apt! |
| 00:36.59 | simonrvn | hehe, no all lowercase ;p |
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| 00:37.06 | simonrvn | s/no/no,/ |
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| 00:38.33 | karsten | simonrvn: s/no/&,/ |
| 00:38.38 | madclicker | pipeline: i've got audigy2 card and nice altec-lansing 5.1, that can handle 25w each of boom, but if i crank the base a bit past the mid point on alsamixer, i get cracking noise at low volumes |
| 00:38.52 | simonrvn | danke |
| 00:39.04 | shingouz | shimano55: apt pwnz |
| 00:39.11 | cafuego | Who was it yesterday who had massive issues with acx_pci ? |
| 00:39.23 | simonrvn | someone did |
| 00:39.24 | DDRP | Where is my gin? |
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| 00:39.51 | darkcarard | hello |
| 00:39.56 | simonrvn | where's my hosenphefer? (i know mangled that) |
| 00:40.08 | cafuego | Hosenpfeffer? |
| 00:40.19 | simonrvn | thanks you |
| 00:40.23 | simonrvn | ... |
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| 00:40.28 | cafuego | What were you trying to say? |
| 00:40.28 | FieldySnuts | er |
| 00:40.30 | simonrvn | thank* |
| 00:40.32 | darkcarard | a frien of mine, have a probrlem with the ADSL connection under linux, can anyone help me? |
| 00:40.33 | The_Ultimate_Sam | was? |
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| 00:40.43 | simonrvn | furgetaboutit... |
| 00:40.53 | cafuego | simonrvn: 'trousers pepper' ? |
| 00:40.54 | shingouz | darkcarard: how about just asking the question |
| 00:40.56 | shimano55 | shinouz, I there a place where I can configure my network? |
| 00:41.01 | shimano55 | so I can connect with wifi |
| 00:41.12 | simonrvn | no, rabbit stew |
| 00:41.18 | cafuego | hasenpfeffer |
| 00:41.22 | cafuego | not hosen |
| 00:41.22 | simonrvn | aaah |
| 00:41.27 | The_Ultimate_Sam | lol |
| 00:41.33 | simonrvn | @lart me |
| 00:41.41 | shingouz | rabbits, pants... |
| 00:41.43 | cafuego | subtly different flavour ;-) |
| 00:41.46 | simonrvn | same taste |
| 00:41.49 | dvs | shingouz: that's too easy |
| 00:42.02 | cafuego | rabbit |
| 00:42.07 | darkcarard | he has configured the net, when he put ifconfig he has an ip, mask, but he can navigate |
| 00:42.08 | cafuego | hase is a hare |
| 00:42.10 | shingouz | i havent tasted trousers so i cannot tell if the taste is the same |
| 00:42.12 | simonrvn | yes |
| 00:42.34 | The_Ultimate_Sam | kaninchen is rabit |
| 00:42.34 | cafuego | millions of them around my parent's plaec |
| 00:42.35 | simonrvn | shingouz: missing out on something, man!!!!!11111! |
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| 00:42.54 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: bash: FFS: command not found!!! |
| 00:42.59 | cafuego | shingouz: yeah, we normally OPEN the fly before we taste |
| 00:43.05 | simonrvn | *grin* |
| 00:43.06 | shingouz | simonrvn: just as a comment to the "same taste" there |
| 00:43.32 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ... i cant seem to get java to work any idea why |
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| 00:43.38 | simonrvn | no |
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| 00:43.42 | cafuego | !any ideas |
| 00:43.42 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of herring, a little cod liver oil, and 42 rabid hamsters. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 00:43.50 | FieldySnuts | beat me to it |
| 00:43.55 | Guerin | The_Ultimate_Sam: because you didn't /msg dpkg java-package |
| 00:43.58 | cafuego | FieldySnuts: you sussudio |
| 00:44.14 | The_Ultimate_Sam | is there a list of things i can /msg him with? |
| 00:44.20 | The_Ultimate_Sam | because that would be helpfull |
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| 00:44.22 | liable | darkcarard: can or cant navigate what |
| 00:44.33 | madclicker | is therea deb available for fglrx? |
| 00:44.36 | cafuego | The_Ultimate_Sam: /msg dpkg listkeys java |
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| 00:44.42 | Guerin | The_Ultimate_Sam: no. he knows at least 25,000 discrete things. |
| 00:44.48 | cafuego | !tell madclicker -about ati drivers |
| 00:44.59 | darkcarard | he cant navigate the web |
| 00:45.07 | FieldySnuts | @vague |
| 00:45.09 | ravenbird | Please think before asking. Vague questions would often be ignored. |
| 00:45.14 | shimano55 | brb guys |
| 00:45.22 | dondelelcaro | !vagueness |
| 00:45.22 | dpkg | VAGUENESS MAKES THE BABY PENGUINS CRY! |
| 00:45.31 | madclicker | cafuego: i tried that but after building and all that it didnt work |
| 00:45.34 | shingouz | !vaguesmite darkcarard |
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| 00:45.47 | shingouz | @vaguesmite darkcarard |
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| 00:45.52 | Guerin | vaguenesssmite |
| 00:46.02 | kooldeb | ok, I booted to a custom kernel and got an kernel panic error, where should I go to get that error and paste it ? |
| 00:46.02 | simonrvn | try vaguenesssmite |
| 00:46.04 | shingouz | Guerin: be my guest ;) |
| 00:46.11 | darkcarard | the problem its thats not my problem and he is not in linux now |
| 00:46.13 | Guerin | i think the point has been made |
| 00:46.13 | simonrvn | @vaguenesssmite darkcarard |
| 00:46.20 | simonrvn | . |
| 00:46.22 | shingouz | i tihnk so too |
| 00:46.31 | Fo | hmm, i cant start my bind9 after upgrade distro woody->sarge syslog is saying that /var/run/bind/run/named.pid isnt exist - but problem is here that really this is exist.. |
| 00:46.33 | simonrvn | ravenbird: fucker |
| 00:46.33 | ravenbird | Ambrosiana is Gentle's fucker, or somebody that fucks |
| 00:46.43 | shingouz | darkcarard: can he ping the router? |
| 00:46.45 | Guerin | !wayc kooldeb |
| 00:46.46 | dpkg | kooldeb: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 00:47.08 | darkcarard | no |
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| 00:47.31 | shingouz | darkcarard: what does route say? |
| 00:47.35 | kooldeb | am installing a wirless card which requires enabling cryptographic option on the kernel |
| 00:47.49 | simonrvn | so do |
| 00:47.49 | kooldeb | Guerin |
| 00:48.02 | Guerin | again |
| 00:48.10 | BrettMeister | After having read the Debian Installer docs I still have a few questions about transitioning from the login to a functioning distro. |
| 00:48.15 | simonrvn | mine runs sid. sadly/dangerously |
| 00:48.16 | Tourinho | cafuego hi.. Im still having problem with kernel, even when getting it from apt-get install |
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| 00:48.20 | Guerin | kooldeb: ok. what error? |
| 00:48.22 | kooldeb | simonrvn: dont you have to recompile your kernel ? |
| 00:48.30 | dondelelcaro | BrettMeister: ask away. |
| 00:48.38 | simonrvn | kooldeb: yes, and? |
| 00:48.45 | darkcarard | wait me a sec please |
| 00:48.47 | kooldeb | Guerin: good Q, where would the log for it be at ? |
| 00:48.49 | Guerin | simonrvn: i'm not worried about maintaining it when it's up... it's the upgrade I'm scared about |
| 00:48.50 | Tourinho | cafuego I tryed to install with "linux26 hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false" |
| 00:49.01 | Guerin | kooldeb: read the damn error off the screen when it boots |
| 00:49.01 | Moonscope | ok, so i have a firewall connected to the net via isdn (if = ippp0) we have just changed to wireless where it will be changed to eth1, if i change my fw scripts from ippp0 to eth1, would that work? for qmail/squid etc? |
| 00:49.05 | Tourinho | but it doenst boot.. only with kernel 2.4 |
| 00:49.07 | simonrvn | Guerin: *nods* |
| 00:49.36 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ...im trying to install the java runtime environment not the java plugin |
| 00:49.38 | kooldeb | Guerin: well am using the laptop which has dual boot, am just booted to the second OS |
| 00:49.40 | BrettMeister | dondelelcaro: Thanks. Seems from the docs that I would next move to some sort of apt process; but, I just can't quite get the instructions right at that point. |
| 00:49.50 | Guerin | The_Ultimate_Sam: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 00:50.02 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i dont quite understand that |
| 00:50.04 | Guerin | kooldeb: so? |
| 00:50.17 | Guerin | what's to not understand? |
| 00:50.22 | dondelelcaro | BrettMeister: login, and you can either run aptitude; to get the packages that you want, or you can run some permutation of apt-get install foopkg; |
| 00:50.27 | simonrvn | the jre contains the plugin... |
| 00:50.36 | kooldeb | Guerin: ok, I will write it down and come back with it . Sorry about the confusion |
| 00:50.43 | simonrvn | (at least sun's and blackdown's does) |
| 00:50.45 | kooldeb | I just thought it would be logged somewhere |
| 00:50.46 | The_Ultimate_Sam | it says makes a .deb from "sun's non-free upstream Java distributions" |
| 00:50.54 | simonrvn | read the whole thing |
| 00:50.56 | Guerin | kooldeb: was it "VFS: cannot mount root filesystem |
| 00:50.57 | Guerin | " |
| 00:50.59 | The_Ultimate_Sam | but that dosent make sence |
| 00:51.01 | Guerin | or somesuch? |
| 00:51.08 | kooldeb | Gurin: exact;y so. |
| 00:51.11 | BrettMeister | dondelelcaro: So...after loging in, what would be the command that would start apt so that I could get Kde? |
| 00:51.13 | Guerin | !norootfs |
| 00:51.13 | dpkg | Modular support is nice, but don't go overboard. You'll have to use static (vs modular) support for your root filesystem (including where your modules reside), the hardware to boot it (eg, ide, scsi controllers etc) Consider using a known good configuration from /boot/ and copy it to .config, then make oldconfig (see kp). And make sure your initrd is setup correctly in your bootloader |
| 00:51.32 | kooldeb | Gurin: complained about hd(0.0) or someting like that but it is the VFS |
| 00:51.51 | The_Ultimate_Sam | what exactly does it mean by that |
| 00:51.57 | Guerin | yeah. Build your root disk's filesystem and controller interface modules into the kernel, NOT as modules. |
| 00:52.38 | kooldeb | Guerin: how do I do that please ? |
| 00:52.54 | Guerin | The_Ultimate_Sam: step 1: download java .bin from sun. step 2: apt-get install java-package. step 3: run make-jpkg /path/to/java.bin |
| 00:53.15 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ... |
| 00:53.16 | dondelelcaro | BrettMeister: log in; then 1) run apt-setup; to setup your sources.list; 2) run aptitude update; aptitude install kde x-window-system; 3) run aptitude; to isntall any other packages that you want. |
| 00:53.45 | Guerin | kooldeb: you look at the output of lspci and note down what modules your root device requires. |
| 00:54.08 | Guerin | kooldeb: then in menuconfig, you make sure it says y or *, not m |
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| 00:54.18 | BrettMeister | dondelelcaro: Thanks much. Just couldn't get past that one part in my reading. Probably so simple for you experienced ones that the writers went past it. :-) |
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| 00:54.40 | dondelelcaro | BrettMeister: yeah, it should be covered in the Debian Quick Reference, actually. |
| 00:54.43 | lef | is there anyone here in the UK and looking for a debian related job? (project based) |
| 00:54.45 | dondelelcaro | !debian reference |
| 00:54.46 | dpkg | the debian reference guide used to be known as the debian quick reference [but now it's too big to be "quick"] and is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html |
| 00:54.48 | kooldeb | Guerin: got you. one more thing, lspci lists the pci devices, did you mean lsmod ? |
| 00:54.50 | dondelelcaro | BrettMeister: see above |
| 00:54.56 | lef | if yes, please message me |
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| 00:55.10 | Guerin | lspci will show your ide controller or whatever. |
| 00:55.15 | Guerin | !pm me |
| 00:55.20 | Guerin | grrr |
| 00:55.23 | BrettMeister | dondelelcaro: Ya...got it. |
| 00:55.29 | phaedral_ | ladies and gentlemen, yes, the sarge installer will get you gnome on a presario v4005cl |
| 00:55.32 | phaedral_ | :) |
| 00:55.34 | Guerin | kooldeb: no, don't pm me |
| 00:55.45 | kooldeb | lol sorry |
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| 00:56.17 | phaedral_ | thanks all for the hand-holding |
| 00:56.32 | dondelelcaro | BrettMeister: also, if you can go back through the manual, and see where you think some reference about how to actually install packages would be useful, let me know. |
| 00:57.22 | kooldeb | Guerin: one lat Q, it might sounds stupid but I am new to all this: how do I find the correct module needed by my system under the config file using menuconfig ? |
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| 00:57.41 | BrettMeister | dondelelcaro: Okay. I'll try to remember to do that. Actually, the docs and manuals are quite impressive. I'm just making a jump here from distros already compiled to this. |
| 00:57.58 | BrettMeister | dondelelcaro: Still a little unsure. |
| 00:58.24 | Guerin | kooldeb: they're pretty easy to figure out once you know the chipset of your controller. |
| 00:58.26 | dondelelcaro | lef: see debian.org/consultants if you're still looking for someone. |
| 00:59.07 | lef | dondelelcaro, sure, thank you |
| 00:59.19 | kooldeb | Guerin: ok. am suprised coz I have used the .config of the current working kernel, which should have all those modules enabled, so not sure whats up with that VFS |
| 00:59.23 | lef | dondelelcaro, of course I am still looking for one |
| 00:59.25 | dondelelcaro | _me_: debhelper runs a bunch of things |
| 00:59.45 | kooldeb | Guerin: well after editing it. |
| 00:59.54 | dondelelcaro | _me_: but it's basically just an eggdrop bot with a few add on scripts |
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| 01:00.07 | strat50s | hi |
| 01:00.14 | _me_ | the !dpkg part is what im inerested in |
| 01:00.25 | dondelelcaro | _me_: uh, that's dpkg, not debhelper. |
| 01:00.30 | dondelelcaro | !what are you |
| 01:00.30 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 01:00.31 | The_Ultimate_Sam | it says that java installed but the program that needs java wont recognize it |
| 01:00.42 | _me_ | k |
| 01:00.47 | _me_ | thanks |
| 01:00.51 | strat50s | !dpkg |
| 01:00.51 | dpkg | it has been said that dpkg is the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. a blootbot on #debian, or a bloodbot on #crack |
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| 01:01.14 | madclicker | fglrx here i come.....i bet it will work this time! |
| 01:01.26 | Delph | madclicker: i'll take 10pounds on that |
| 01:01.27 | FieldySnuts | good luck (ati) |
| 01:01.27 | madclicker | 15-th time is the charm for me |
| 01:01.48 | The_Ultimate_Sam | im trying to install limewire which needs java runtime environment |
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| 01:02.03 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 01:02.06 | madclicker | thx for the support guys, u all rock :) |
| 01:02.26 | maher | The_Ultimate_Sam: use java-package |
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| 01:02.47 | Delph | uninstall it however you did it the first time, then java-package the .bin from sun |
| 01:02.50 | The_Ultimate_Sam | so i used java-package and made jaba.bin into a java pakage |
| 01:03.08 | Delph | and limewire is a debian package as well? |
| 01:03.12 | The_Ultimate_Sam | then i used dpkg -i |
| 01:03.15 | Guerin | kooldeb: stock debian kernels build most everything as modules, and use an initrd. |
| 01:03.16 | madclicker | i got a 24" LCD UXWGA in 1024x786, it sux no matter how i look at it :) |
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| 01:03.26 | The_Ultimate_Sam | limewire is also a .bin and there is a .rpm |
| 01:03.38 | maher | The_Ultimate_Sam: use alien on the rpm |
| 01:03.45 | The_Ultimate_Sam | alien? |
| 01:03.48 | Delph | maher: why? |
| 01:03.51 | Delph | what? |
| 01:03.58 | Guerin | why the fuck use java shiteware anyway? |
| 01:04.05 | Delph | maher: you want to be using java-package... really. |
| 01:04.12 | FieldySnuts | no kidding |
| 01:04.21 | madclicker | apt-get install amule |
| 01:04.25 | FieldySnuts | damn warez kids |
| 01:04.26 | Guerin | can someone explain to me why so many programs get written in java? |
| 01:04.29 | maher | Delph: on the limewire rpm |
| 01:04.30 | kooldeb | Guerin: ok so you suggest copying /boot/config_kernel version to /usr/src/linux/.config and editing it or some other approach ? |
| 01:04.30 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i have amule |
| 01:04.38 | madclicker | i wish SHAREAZA would have a linux port |
| 01:04.39 | Guerin | never edit .config |
| 01:04.42 | FieldySnuts | Guerin: schools push it like a brainwashing tool |
| 01:04.45 | Guerin | always use make menuconfig |
| 01:05.04 | kooldeb | Guerin: thats what I meant |
| 01:05.08 | Delph | it's a reasonable start at the moment. python sucks, and I don't trust C# yet. |
| 01:05.24 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ...what is alien? |
| 01:05.29 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Because code monkeys who know Java and nothing but can be had for a dime a dozen. That and management types really have drunk the Kool-Aid, in many cases. |
| 01:05.31 | FieldySnuts | lame rpm to whatever converter |
| 01:05.34 | Guerin | kooldeb: yeah. |
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| 01:06.06 | The_Ultimate_Sam | can u dpkg a .rpm? |
| 01:06.08 | kooldeb | Guerin: ouch, I did edited manually after make menuconfig. |
| 01:06.09 | FieldySnuts | @u |
| 01:06.10 | ravenbird | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1 or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:06.17 | kooldeb | Guerin: guess I wont do so next one. |
| 01:06.18 | Guerin | but there's even a bunch of free stuff written in java... i just don't get why you'd choose it over a free alternative. |
| 01:06.44 | scarynetworkguy | And then when they end up with a system that can only support 50 users on a big ass server and needs 2+ gig workstations to run and their BOFH tells them that is borken and that the solution is *not* to stick a load balancer in front of said servers he gets ignored till one day he kills them all. |
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| 01:06.52 | scarynetworkguy | To pick a random example. |
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| 01:07.04 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: from recent experience :) |
| 01:07.19 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Yeah. :) |
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| 01:07.56 | simonrvn | here's to light-weight servers ;) |
| 01:08.10 | FieldySnuts | badgerwangtek |
| 01:08.16 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 01:08.27 | scarynetworkguy | Here's to the sweet sweet sound of mangers getting shot with a Mossberg. |
| 01:08.33 | simonrvn | new co. in hong kong? |
| 01:08.39 | dondelelcaro | scarynetworkguy: that's a waste of a bullet. |
| 01:08.48 | The_Ultimate_Sam | is there a better way to make a .rpm into a .deb? |
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| 01:09.02 | simonrvn | better yet is to just use a .deb ffs |
| 01:09.04 | FieldySnuts | if it comes only in rpm it's probably a peice of shit and shouldn't be bothered with, anyway |
| 01:09.04 | scarynetworkguy | dondelelcaro: And just how would you dispose of them? |
| 01:09.04 | dondelelcaro | The_Ultimate_Sam: yes. Get the source and build it. |
| 01:09.28 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: aye |
| 01:09.41 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ...other than that |
| 01:09.54 | simonrvn | ok, let's try this patch out |
| 01:09.58 | dondelelcaro | scarynetworkguy: give them an office with the view |
| 01:10.06 | scarynetworkguy | dondelelcaro: Hehe. |
| 01:10.13 | simonrvn | ...and make sure the window doesn't lock? |
| 01:10.28 | scarynetworkguy | It's raining fucktards. |
| 01:10.47 | dondelelcaro | no... just make sure it's an overhanging office without a floor and consequently a wonderfull view of the ground, 90 stories below. |
| 01:10.57 | scarynetworkguy | Bitter me, no. |
| 01:11.18 | Guerin | well, while we're on the subject of managerial incompetence |
| 01:11.31 | kooldeb | Guerin: would would make a different if one does the .config manually through vi or using make menuconfig (out of curiosity) |
| 01:11.41 | Guerin | i have to pay back a couple grand my bosses incorrectly refunded me for a plane ticket |
| 01:11.48 | simonrvn | DO NOT TOUCH THE .config WITH AN EDITOR |
| 01:11.52 | FieldySnuts | Narrator: [Talking slowly] And this button-down, Oxford-cloth psycho might just snap, and then stalk from office to office with an Armalite AR-10 carbine gas-powered semi-automatic weapon, pumping round after round into colleagues and co-workers. This might be someone you've known for years. Someone very, very close to you. |
| 01:11.52 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: You, of course, could trump us all in that dept. :P |
| 01:11.55 | Guerin | which, naturally enough, I've already spent |
| 01:12.00 | FieldySnuts | heh. fight club. reminds me of this discussion |
| 01:12.11 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: yeah, i reckon I could... and I've only been working here 2 months |
| 01:12.29 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Yeah but you've been in that hellhole for far longer than that. |
| 01:12.32 | kooldeb | simonrvn: yeah, I already know that, just trying to find out why |
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| 01:12.43 | Tourinho | does anyone had problem installing sarge with kernel 2.6 on a notebook?? |
| 01:12.49 | simonrvn | because chances are a newbie like you will wreck it |
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| 01:13.10 | Guerin | kooldeb: some modules depend on other modules. When you use *config, all those things get kept in line. If you edit it by hand, unless you miraculously change all the right options, you'll fuck it up and it won't build, much less boot. |
| 01:13.58 | scarynetworkguy | kooldeb: And if it does that we won't even get to point and laugh. |
| 01:14.01 | kooldeb | Guerin: which means that menuconfig will make these automatically for you |
| 01:14.08 | Guerin | yes. |
| 01:14.32 | kooldeb | Guerin: thanks much for all this info. |
| 01:14.55 | Guerin | no problem. You, at least, have a REASON to build you own kernel. |
| 01:15.01 | Ronin | scarynetworkguy: too much spam etc from korea this week? |
| 01:15.51 | scarynetworkguy | Ronin: I get in these moods where I blame the whole fucking country for the psycho bitch that I married. Not really fair to them but I don't really give a fuck. |
| 01:15.55 | kooldeb | Guerin> yup, I rather use apt-get the kernel, but it seems that all options are closed even compiling the source of the driver. all solutions lead to recompiling the kernel. |
| 01:16.00 | Guerin | please don't get either of us started |
| 01:16.14 | Ronin | scarynetworkguy: ahh that kind of hate, seen many a friend go through it |
| 01:16.42 | FieldySnuts | gah get rid of her if it's that bad |
| 01:16.49 | Guerin | haha |
| 01:16.54 | kooldeb | lol |
| 01:16.56 | FieldySnuts | sorry, didn't know you were about to enter a more relaxed mode |
| 01:17.00 | Guerin | if only 'twere that simple |
| 01:17.10 | Fo | can someone do me a favor and tell me what chmod/chown has he's pid file of bind9 ? |
| 01:17.22 | FieldySnuts | Nah, not gonna get pulled into this |
| 01:17.33 | holo | anyone know a program to awake one's up so i don't be late to school? |
| 01:17.37 | scarynetworkguy | FieldySnuts: Sunday was one year since she left. |
| 01:17.43 | FieldySnuts | oh left okay nevermind |
| 01:17.44 | kooldeb | holo: lol |
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| 01:17.59 | kooldeb | holo: which OS ? |
| 01:18.00 | Guerin | holo: cron and cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp |
| 01:18.01 | holo | kooldeb, i'm serious here :D |
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| 01:18.05 | scarynetworkguy | FieldySnuts: Yeah. |
| 01:18.09 | FieldySnuts | :/ |
| 01:18.19 | Guerin | holo: guaranteed to get your arse outta bed faster than anything else |
| 01:18.28 | Guerin | if only to save your speakers from certain death |
| 01:18.34 | joloc | holo: echo xmms vmlinuz | at 6am |
| 01:18.53 | holo | joloc, i see ideas and no command examples :\ |
| 01:19.08 | Guerin | holo: man crontab |
| 01:19.18 | kooldeb | whats in /dev/dsp |
| 01:19.21 | Guerin | holo: if you have xmms, there's a waker-upper plugin for it |
| 01:19.30 | Guerin | /dev/dsp is your audio device |
| 01:19.45 | kooldeb | lol and u putting vmliuz in there ?? |
| 01:20.04 | scarynetworkguy | kooldeb: Do it. |
| 01:20.11 | Guerin | like I said: guaranteed to get your arse outta bed faster than anything else |
| 01:20.21 | scarynetworkguy | Heh. |
| 01:20.26 | kooldeb | scarynetworkguy: am not currently under debian |
| 01:20.30 | Guerin | furrywolf: don't you use the light of the moon or something? |
| 01:20.33 | scarynetworkguy | Well maybe except /dev/random |
| 01:20.40 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: It' |
| 01:20.41 | kooldeb | I will try it , but it sounds to me like its gonna be one heck of a noise |
| 01:20.50 | scarynetworkguy | s hard to see the moon from his Mom's basement. |
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| 01:20.54 | caphuso | /dev/random won't wake you up |
| 01:20.57 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 01:21.03 | Guerin | hah |
| 01:21.06 | FieldySnuts | urandom might. zero won't. |
| 01:21.14 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.15 | scarynetworkguy | True. My bad. |
| 01:21.17 | furrywolf | use /dev/urandom. better than /dev/random. |
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| 01:21.28 | caphuso | a .1 seconds sound every two seconds or so isn't enough :) |
| 01:21.42 | The_Ultimate_Sam | alright how do i use alien? |
| 01:21.44 | FieldySnuts | cat /dev/hda to it or something |
| 01:21.47 | Guerin | The_Ultimate_Sam: man alien |
| 01:21.49 | FieldySnuts | read its docs... |
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| 01:22.02 | FieldySnuts | don't expect much help on it here, rpm isn't exactly popular here |
| 01:22.05 | Guerin | holo: and it rilly big 2 lol |
| 01:22.06 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Is that what they were trying to make at the end of X Files? |
| 01:22.17 | furrywolf | fieldsnuts: what if you have large blocks of nulls on your disk? databases, etc? wouldn't work as well for wakeups... |
| 01:22.18 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: hah |
| 01:22.24 | scarynetworkguy | The_Ultimate_Sam: If you need to ask.... Don't. |
| 01:22.27 | kooldeb | holo: oh not to mention the time and effort they put to that shitty song |
| 01:22.28 | trevor | Does Xfree86-4.3 support the radeon 9800 pro, if so, what do I need to do to get it worked? |
| 01:22.40 | scarynetworkguy | trevor: How many goats do you have? |
| 01:22.41 | cinix | I transfered my / partition to a new filesystem (ext2->reiser), and it really botched up my /dev permission wise. Is there an easy way I can fix this? Anyone know why it would have reset most of the user/group assignments + permission modes |
| 01:22.42 | spoopin | caphuso: nice choice. One of my favorites :) |
| 01:22.43 | FieldySnuts | 9800 wasn't even out at the time |
| 01:22.57 | Guerin | woah, bad religion |
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| 01:23.05 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a badger war |
| 01:23.05 | dpkg | snakes are better than badgers |
| 01:23.05 | Guerin | takin' me back to when I was an angry 14 year old |
| 01:23.09 | trevor | so thats a no? debian doesnt have xorg yet? |
| 01:23.14 | furrywolf | cinix: you probably specified the wrong arguments to cp. did you use cp -r, or cp -a? |
| 01:23.20 | FieldySnuts | you didn't even ask about xorg.. |
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| 01:23.21 | cinix | cp -r |
| 01:23.29 | FieldySnuts | !irritate trevor |
| 01:23.29 | dpkg | trevor: hi every1 how can I make my kanotix werkz U FUX0RZ |
| 01:23.37 | scarynetworkguy | FieldySnuts: Don't give him ideas. :P |
| 01:23.44 | trevor | ... |
| 01:23.51 | trevor | thats not helpin me make a decision. |
| 01:24.04 | scarynetworkguy | trevor: Ever get the feeling nobody cares? |
| 01:24.08 | Guerin | trevor: /msg dpkg xorg |
| 01:24.08 | cinix | furrywolf: damn, should have done archive huh |
| 01:24.10 | trevor | out of date os v.s <......> |
| 01:24.12 | trevor | thanks Guerin |
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| 01:24.20 | Guerin | trevor: there are ways of getting it installed on debian. |
| 01:24.21 | FieldySnuts | troll |
| 01:24.28 | trevor | scarynetworkguy: ever get told your a load mother should have swallowed. |
| 01:24.34 | FieldySnuts | oh wtf |
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| 01:24.46 | cinix | well I still have the other partition, i'll just format and copy again, doing it right this time. thanks |
| 01:24.46 | dondelelcaro | ok... |
| 01:24.49 | FieldySnuts | mron |
| 01:24.57 | Guerin | pure class |
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| 01:25.06 | scarynetworkguy | Yeah. |
| 01:25.12 | kreg_lt | recomment a gui bit torrent client? |
| 01:25.14 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@cable-63-135-13-124.sudbury.dyn.personainc.net] by dondelelcaro |
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| 01:25.27 | FieldySnuts | ask a real questin? |
| 01:25.30 | dondelelcaro | FieldySnuts: although, you really don't need to egg them on even when they are obviously a troll... |
| 01:25.40 | dondelelcaro | kreg_lt: bittornado |
| 01:26.08 | kooldeb | Guerin: does not your nick name sound french ? |
| 01:27.10 | furrywolf | cinix: yep, you should have. your best bet is to see if MAKEDEV can recreate them all for you. might need to boot off a rescue disk, rm -r /dev, and start over. |
| 01:27.20 | Guerin | kooldeb: I suppose it does. |
| 01:28.06 | crn | kooldeb: It reads French. Who knows how it sounds. |
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| 01:28.11 | furrywolf | bah, didn't see that he quit, or that he said he still had the other partition. :) |
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| 01:28.28 | kooldeb | crn: I speak french |
| 01:28.43 | kooldeb | any one from Montreal ? |
| 01:29.01 | Guerin | 3,000,000 or so last I heard |
| 01:29.31 | crn | kooldeb: mais ce que je dise est vrai meme en Francais. |
| 01:29.38 | scarynetworkguy | !fr |
| 01:29.38 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 01:30.09 | kooldeb | crn: hmm sounds like it was translated :P |
| 01:30.24 | crn | kooldeb: presque |
| 01:30.31 | guorke | anybody konw rsync? |
| 01:30.40 | scarynetworkguy | !anybody use |
| 01:30.40 | dpkg | No, no-one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 01:30.45 | kooldeb | crn: unless your are a female :P |
| 01:30.52 | scarynetworkguy | Works just as well with know. |
| 01:30.57 | crn | kooldeb: non |
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| 01:31.12 | kooldeb | crn: et comment tu as dis dise alors ? |
| 01:31.17 | asg | !anyone eat bugs |
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| 01:31.28 | guorke | why says @ERROR: access denied... |
| 01:31.46 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Anthony Bourdain? |
| 01:31.48 | crn | kooldeb: manque de pratique. Je parle anglais comme lange maternel |
| 01:32.05 | asg | scarynetworkguy: heh, no. I was seeing if !anyone foo was generic enough |
| 01:32.18 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Yeah. I know. Just couldn't resist. |
| 01:32.20 | SaMRoX_ | whats the best MSN client? (I dont want aMSN or gaim) help!! |
| 01:32.40 | asg | scarynetworkguy: I have had chocolate covered ants and grasshoppers before though. |
| 01:32.53 | kooldeb | crn: ah, ok. francais est pas ma lange maternel aussi. |
| 01:32.53 | asg | SaMRoX_: bitlbee |
| 01:33.02 | SaMRoX_ | thx, will try it |
| 01:33.10 | SaMRoX_ | any other? |
| 01:33.14 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Cool. In the Air Force when they used to make me sit in foxholes in NBC gear I used to eat ants to pass the time. |
| 01:33.25 | asg | SaMRoX_: not as far as I'm concerned. bitlbee is an irc -> IM gateway |
| 01:33.35 | asg | SaMRoX_: so you can use irssi-text to chat with the unfortunates |
| 01:33.49 | kooldeb | scarynetworkguy: I like ants too. |
| 01:33.56 | asg | scarynetworkguy: better than biting your fingernails |
| 01:33.59 | kooldeb | scarynetworkguy: they free and are found everywehre |
| 01:34.11 | asg | kooldeb: don't eat fire ants though |
| 01:34.12 | cureless | crn, kooldeb if neither of you is a native french speaker why are you talking to each other in french? |
| 01:34.15 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Yeah. Since in NMC gear you can't get to your fingernails. |
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| 01:34.24 | asg | scarynetworkguy: too true |
| 01:34.25 | Guerin | SaMRoX_: to use bitlbee, just connect your irc client to im.bitlbee.org |
| 01:34.25 | scarynetworkguy | s/NMC?NBC |
| 01:34.28 | kooldeb | cureless: go figure hehe |
| 01:34.28 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Indeed. |
| 01:34.34 | crn | cureless: because we can |
| 01:34.35 | Guerin | SaMRoX_: and type 'help' |
| 01:34.55 | kooldeb | english is not my native language either. |
| 01:34.57 | SaMRoX_ | ok thx |
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| 01:37.02 | Guerin | grr, people whose repos are fucked up really piss me off |
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| 01:37.23 | SaMRoX_ | do you know why the aMSN sometimes gets "tilt" or it even doesn't opens? |
| 01:37.25 | JeffWilson12 | INIT: PANIC: segmentation violation at 0xffff3433! Sleeping for 30 seconds. Now I can't do anything on my deb sarge 3.1 server... I got this error about an hour after an upgrade. What to do? |
| 01:37.29 | asg | Guerin: the fact that list.debian.org no longer sends me any mail at all pisses me off |
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| 01:37.59 | asg | s/list/lists/ |
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| 01:38.09 | Guerin | asg: oh, bad |
| 01:38.19 | scarynetworkguy | JeffWilson12: Open a vein. Remember "down not across". |
| 01:38.26 | scarynetworkguy | JeffWilson12: And/or give some details. |
| 01:38.31 | asg | Guerin: yeah, my gateway was down for <24 hours and I can't even get anything from murphy at all. |
| 01:38.50 | asg | Guerin: I'm going to have to mail postmaster and find out wtf. |
| 01:39.02 | scarynetworkguy | asg: What about Finagle? |
| 01:39.05 | JeffWilson12 | scarynetworkguy: I gave all the details I can think of. Debian 3.1 Sarge "testing"...just did apt-get dist-upgrade about an hour ago...and I come back to this. |
| 01:39.11 | Guerin | asg: funky. |
| 01:39.24 | scarynetworkguy | JeffWilson12: Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. |
| 01:39.31 | asg | Guerin: yeah, it's odd. All other mailing lists have picked up just fine. |
| 01:39.36 | JeffWilson12 | =| |
| 01:39.45 | JeffWilson12 | so am I going to have to force shutdown? |
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| 01:39.47 | asg | scarynetworkguy: haven't had Murphy's in a few |
| 01:39.52 | Guerin | JeffWilson12: yes. |
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| 01:40.03 | bykte | Does anyone knows how to fix the "Warning: arptype 65535 not supported by libpcap - falling back to cooked socket" error msg? |
| 01:40.09 | Guerin | JeffWilson12: try to boot into a rescue mode of some kind and snoop around a bit. |
| 01:40.11 | scarynetworkguy | asg: It was a Niven joke. |
| 01:40.18 | JeffWilson12 | Guerin: what am I looking for? |
| 01:40.25 | asg | scarynetworkguy: ah, thought it was an Irish Beery type joke |
| 01:40.50 | asg | scarynetworkguy: and I assume you didn't mean David Niven |
| 01:41.05 | scarynetworkguy | asg: No. Larry. |
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| 01:41.13 | Moonscope | hey... what does this do? its in my FW script what does this do? IP="`ifconfig ippp0 | grep 'inet addr' | awk '{print $2}' | sed -e 's/.*://'`" |
| 01:41.17 | Guerin | JeffWilson12: i'm not altogether sure. I'd pick either faulty hardware (unlikely since it's been in use until now) or libc corruption. See if shit just starts failing randomly in chroot. |
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| 01:41.32 | scarynetworkguy | Only Irish beer I know is Guiness. |
| 01:41.36 | asg | Moonscope: it sets the IP shell variable to your ppp ip address |
| 01:42.00 | JeffWilson12 | Guerin: okay....I have to get some sleep soon...I'll do a bit of snooping, but I'll let it run all night. the possibility of faulty hardware is VERY HIGH. This machine is old. |
| 01:42.07 | Moonscope | so if i change the interface that the FW uses to connect to the net ill need to change that too? |
| 01:42.25 | asg | Moonscope: only if the interface is not ippp0 |
| 01:42.28 | Guerin | JeffWilson12: ok. Before you sleep, bott into memtest86 and run it overnight. |
| 01:42.34 | Moonscope | asg: thx, thought so :) |
| 01:42.38 | asg | Moonscope: just change ippp0 to eth0 or whatever |
| 01:42.48 | Moonscope | thx |
| 01:42.49 | JeffWilson12 | Guerin: in recovery mode? |
| 01:43.11 | Guerin | JeffWilson12: you'll have to download it and install it on the box, or put it on a cd or flooppy or something. |
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| 01:43.27 | JeffWilson12 | Guerin: and where do I get it? |
| 01:43.42 | JeffWilson12 | I have about 15 minutes. can I get it that fast on a 384kbps system? |
| 01:43.45 | Guerin | on teh intarwebs |
| 01:43.53 | Guerin | sure, it's only kernel-sized |
| 01:44.06 | Guerin | i don't know exactly where, but google will |
| 01:44.10 | JeffWilson12 | and kernel-sized means what?... |
| 01:44.11 | asg | JeffWilson12: that's compiled kernel sized, not kernel source sized |
| 01:44.20 | Guerin | it fits on a fucking floppy disk |
| 01:44.43 | JeffWilson12 | OK, gotcha ... |
| 01:44.46 | bykte | oooh, now floppy disk can fuck |
| 01:44.56 | sussudio | !fuck bykte |
| 01:45.00 | asg | bykte: if you roll them, yes |
| 01:45.13 | bykte | lol, damn i got raped |
| 01:45.44 | scarynetworkguy | bykte: You liked it and you know it. |
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| 01:45.55 | bykte | scarynetworkguy, likewise for you in future |
| 01:46.13 | scarynetworkguy | bykte: I've never claimed otherwise. |
| 01:46.20 | bykte | scarynetworkguy, :> |
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| 01:47.34 | trentbuck | Hey, are flashplugin-nonfree and flashplayer-mozilla the same thing? |
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| 01:48.48 | trentbuck | scarynetworkguy: sorry, I don't understand. |
| 01:49.10 | JeffWilson12 | Guerin: I assume the precomp.bin file is what I want ... do I copy this to the fd using dd or ... ? I should probably hold off on this until tomorrow and read some docs ...:-/ |
| 01:49.39 | trentbuck | AFAICT they are both Flash for Mozilla. I wanted to know if they independently provide the same functionality. |
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| 01:50.28 | scarynetworkguy | trentbuck: My friend Google knows. Maybe you should go down the hall and ask him. |
| 01:50.39 | asg | !info flashplayer-nonfree sid |
| 01:50.43 | asg | !info flashplayer-mozilla sid |
| 01:50.45 | bykte | google is your friend? lol |
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| 01:51.03 | scarynetworkguy | !lol |
| 01:51.03 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a honey badger. |
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| 01:51.11 | asg | !info flashplugin-nonfree sid |
| 01:51.12 | dpkg | flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section contrib/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (sid), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 01:51.30 | asg | trentbuck: one is in debian, the other is a marillat unofficial package |
| 01:51.42 | trentbuck | asg: Ah, right. Thank you. |
| 01:51.42 | asg | trentbuck: they probably both attempt to do the same thing. |
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| 01:54.08 | JeffWilson12 | Okay, I've got memtest86 in and running....I suppose it will make it clear if an error occours? |
| 01:54.28 | scarynetworkguy | JeffWilson12: Yeah. The flames will be a clue. |
| 01:54.36 | JeffWilson12 | alright, cool. |
| 01:54.53 | JeffWilson12 | This server isn't worth much now anywya. the DATA is, but not the server itself..it's a pile of crap now. |
| 01:54.58 | JeffWilson12 | but I can't afford a new one. |
| 01:55.19 | JeffWilson12 | I'm out all .. thanks for the help. bye |
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| 01:55.37 | Raa | Anyone able to help with a qmail + spamassassin problem. I have a user trying to email someone within one of my qmail domains and the email never gets there. the person sending doesn't get a undeliverable message and also the email is also forward to a hotmail account and that is received fine. I have checked the qmail-queue log in /var/spool/qmailscan/qmail-queue.log and i searched for the email adress of the person sending but it is no where to be seen. is |
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| 01:57.35 | cafuego | if the hardware is failing the data can't be trusted either |
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| 01:57.57 | arrowhead | .seen caelum |
| 01:58.13 | Raa | cafuego: who was this directed at? |
| 01:58.15 | mfrisch | how do you reinstall a package? |
| 01:58.21 | cafuego | Raa: the world? |
| 01:58.24 | ia3264 | if i dont enable md5 passwords what encryption will it use? (for shadowed passwords) |
| 01:58.28 | cafuego | mfrisch: apt-get install --reinstall foo |
| 01:58.39 | cafuego | ia3264: crypt |
| 01:58.42 | simonrvn | @lart arrowhead |
| 01:58.44 | ia3264 | ack |
| 01:58.45 | mfrisch | cafuego I was close...THANKS |
| 01:58.54 | ia3264 | so i take it md5 is a good idea |
| 01:59.03 | cafuego | mfrisch: You may also want to include '--force-confmiss' |
| 01:59.09 | cafuego | ia3264: generally, yes. |
| 01:59.19 | cafuego | ia3264: crypt is limited to 8 characters |
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| 01:59.33 | Raa | where do i find spamassassin or qmail-scan log files? |
| 01:59.40 | cafuego | ia3264: so 'password' works fine even if the ACTUAL password is 'password15' |
| 01:59.48 | crschmidt | to update from woody(stable) to unstable, can I just change my sources.list? |
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| 01:59.56 | cafuego | qmail lives in non-free somewhere. |
| 02:00.03 | mfrisch | cafuego cool :)~ |
| 02:00.03 | cafuego | the Debian shantytown |
| 02:00.12 | XennMZ | z |
| 02:00.22 | Raa | cafuego: non-free? is this a channel? |
| 02:00.22 | XennMZ | z |
| 02:00.28 | XennMZ | hmmm |
| 02:00.33 | ia3264 | cafuego, i see, yeah that would be very bad :) |
| 02:00.34 | asg | !non-free |
| 02:00.34 | dpkg | i heard non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianers would rather not use it. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html or tack non-free to the end of your usual "main" source to install stuff like navigator. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end ... |
| 02:00.38 | cafuego | !eye Raa |
| 02:00.55 | cafuego | Raa: non-free means it has a restrictive non-GPL licence. |
| 02:01.11 | ia3264 | how long can md5 passwords be |
| 02:01.19 | ia3264 | 255? |
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| 02:01.51 | asg | !non-free is also apt-get install vrms |
| 02:01.51 | dpkg | that's too long, asg |
| 02:01.57 | cafuego | ia3264: infinite, but their md5sum will be 32 chars regardless |
| 02:01.58 | asg | !non-free is also <reply>apt-get install vrms |
| 02:01.59 | dpkg | asg: that's too long |
| 02:02.00 | Raa | cafuego: thanks for the info. We are using this on my companies server. |
| 02:02.02 | asg | bah |
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| 02:02.11 | rectum | i don't understand something, probably because I am a newbie to all this, but if its non-free why is it available to download and use without limitations as long as you want |
| 02:02.33 | rectum | for example rar unrar zip unzip to name a few that I use |
| 02:02.39 | rectum | and couple of other software |
| 02:02.43 | cafuego | rectum: it's mot permitted to recompile the source and distribute it. |
| 02:02.44 | rectum | from the non-free tree |
| 02:02.47 | rectum | ahh |
| 02:02.51 | cureless | somebody payed for them with blood |
| 02:02.57 | rectum | wow, blood eh |
| 02:02.58 | cafuego | rectum: Same with pine |
| 02:03.02 | rectum | how much is blood worth |
| 02:03.10 | rectum | i've never given blood |
| 02:03.17 | Raa | what are some good spamassassin forums? |
| 02:03.20 | rectum | but I hear if you donate plasma they give you 40$ |
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| 02:03.37 | cafuego | ia3264: just use a phrase |
| 02:03.46 | ia3264 | yeah |
| 02:03.56 | cafuego | "I can't believe it's not butter" |
| 02:03.58 | ia3264 | 'i am the man i can hax0r anything bla bla the witch is dead' |
| 02:04.03 | asg | cafuego: parkay |
| 02:04.22 | ia3264 | im sure some crackers generated a list of common phrases |
| 02:04.23 | cafuego | ^F is also generally quite secure :-) |
| 02:04.27 | asg | !qotd6 |
| 02:04.27 | dpkg | <d0ugie> kickin it real on efnet, doing takeovers on #hack manually, typing really fast to mode -o everyone <sussudio> d0ugie: can you stop being a sad wanker? |
| 02:04.32 | cureless | start butter war |
| 02:04.51 | ia3264 | ill use some arcane lyrics |
| 02:05.02 | ia3264 | alphanumerically |
| 02:05.12 | cafuego | ia3264: Do use an uncommon one, like "My strap-on is chafing my thighs somewhat" |
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| 02:05.20 | ia3264 | hehehe |
| 02:05.21 | rectum | is cureless same as acure |
| 02:05.27 | rectum | 'a' prefix means usually without |
| 02:05.34 | rectum | is acure even a word? |
| 02:05.35 | cureless | rectum: no |
| 02:05.36 | ia3264 | acrue means to build though |
| 02:05.40 | distempr | any reason I should allow inetd to exist on my system? |
| 02:05.41 | rectum | i think I just invented it |
| 02:05.43 | rectum | :D |
| 02:05.46 | cafuego | !dict acure |
| 02:05.48 | dpkg | could not find definition for acure |
| 02:05.58 | ia3264 | oh acure |
| 02:05.58 | cureless | !dict acrue |
| 02:06.00 | dpkg | could not find definition for acrue |
| 02:06.02 | asg | rectum: it's easy to create new words in English |
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| 02:06.12 | cafuego | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.14 | dpkg | Dictionary 'accrue' (3 of 4): And though power failed, her courage did accrue. --Spenser. ;; The great and essential advantages accruing to society from the freedom of the press. --Junius. ;; 2. To come to by way of increase; to arise or spring as a growth or result; to be added as increase, profit, or damage, especially as the produce of money lent. ``Interest accrues to principal.'' --Abbott.. |
| 02:06.22 | ia3264 | rectum, damn near killed em |
| 02:06.27 | cafuego | Do try to not misspell it. |
| 02:06.35 | rectum | like I haven't heard that one a thousand bajillion times |
| 02:06.35 | versuchsanstalt | what's good for comparing binary files (images)? something like diff for binary files? |
| 02:06.43 | cureless | not a word I use every day |
| 02:06.44 | drac | distempr: If you don't need anything in /etc/inetd.conf, you can stop inetd. apt-get install rcconf. rcconf. |
| 02:06.58 | drac | distempr: /etc/init.d/inetd stop |
| 02:07.02 | asg | versuchsanstalt: xdelta |
| 02:07.14 | dondelelcaro | you would if you were a financier... |
| 02:07.16 | cafuego | versuchsanstalt: xdelta |
| 02:07.22 | distempr | drac: what's rcconf? |
| 02:07.23 | cafuego | bah |
| 02:07.25 | versuchsanstalt | asg: thx, cafuego too |
| 02:07.33 | distempr | drac: can I just apt-get --purge remove inetd? |
| 02:07.59 | drac | distempr: netkit-inetd, try. |
| 02:08.53 | distempr | drac: ok |
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| 02:08.58 | Roey | hi |
| 02:09.41 | Roey | is there any sort of auditing facility for Debian where you can track who did what to which system file when (including tracking installation of .debs) ?? |
| 02:09.49 | distempr | wtf.. .why does bind9 depend on inetd?... |
| 02:10.32 | cafuego | distempr: As far as I can tell it doesn't. |
| 02:11.03 | cafuego | distempr: it depends on netbase, which depends on netkit-inetd. |
| 02:11.10 | distempr | cafuego: apt-get --purge remove netkit-inetd wants to remove a whole schwack of pkgs.. |
| 02:11.14 | distempr | ahh |
| 02:11.16 | distempr | ok |
| 02:11.33 | cafuego | distempr: Wtf are you trying to remove inetd for? |
| 02:11.46 | distempr | cafuego: figure I don't need it :) |
| 02:11.48 | cureless | Roey: installation of debs? only root installs debs. |
| 02:12.03 | Roey | cureless: alright, what about tracking when root did which operations on debs? |
| 02:12.06 | cafuego | distempr: You can simply disable either it or its services. |
| 02:12.11 | Delph | Roey: you can get everyone using sudo, and track the sudo operations |
| 02:12.13 | asg | Roey: aptitude can track deb installs |
| 02:12.24 | Roey | Delph: ah, right... ok that could od it |
| 02:12.24 | Delph | ^-- how we manage changes to our server |
| 02:12.25 | distempr | cafuego: yeah update-rc.d for sure, I just figure it doesn't need to be there imho. |
| 02:12.28 | asg | Roey: also, the 'acct' package and perhaps ttysnoop |
| 02:12.28 | Roey | asg: ok |
| 02:12.31 | Roey | ok |
| 02:12.39 | Delph | mine's fine if you have co-operative admins |
| 02:12.45 | Roey | asg: I think that the best accounting I can do... at all... is to use sudo |
| 02:13.10 | Roey | asg: because then you can tailor sudo's logging (I assume) |
| 02:13.14 | cureless | ttysnoop!! aha! I've been trying to remember that name for a while |
| 02:13.19 | Delph | Roey: activate the thingies that emmail the changelogs of installed packages to <admins@> as well |
| 02:13.23 | asg | Roey: well, lastcomm(1) in the acct package lists things that were exec'd and when |
| 02:13.28 | Roey | asg: (otherwise you can just instruct sudo to use a wrapper around the program that is being exected) |
| 02:13.38 | Roey | Delph: right right |
| 02:13.55 | asg | Roey: also, you can get good auditing by using grsecurity patches also. |
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| 02:14.13 | asg | s/ also.$/./ |
| 02:14.21 | Delph | and have /etc in CVS |
| 02:14.26 | cafuego | distempr: Well, YHO seems to be wrong ;-) use 'rcconf' to easily en/disable stuff. |
| 02:14.33 | Roey | asg: what about selinux then? |
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| 02:14.58 | distempr | cafuego: :D Yeah! |
| 02:15.08 | asg | Roey: very nice but still a little green. You might be better off using grsecurity's learning mode until SE becomes more mature. |
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| 02:15.56 | Roey | asg: ok |
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| 02:16.02 | Roey | asg: I want to use this in two ways: |
| 02:16.21 | Roey | asg: 1) on my home system, for helping me log what I do with my system (as I experiment with lots of things here) |
| 02:16.26 | Roey | asg: 2) at work on our servers |
| 02:16.27 | versuchsanstalt | hmmm. |
| 02:16.35 | Roey | asg: I could have them pipe useful information to a logging server |
| 02:16.50 | versuchsanstalt | looks like md5sum is easier to handle than xdelta |
| 02:16.57 | Roey | asg: does grsec provide anything like dtrace? |
| 02:17.10 | Roey | asg: (dtrace's probes) |
| 02:17.10 | Roey | ? |
| 02:17.13 | versuchsanstalt | a plain diff would be cool |
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| 02:17.30 | asg | Roey: no. I'm sure dtrace functionality will appear in time. |
| 02:17.30 | Roey | asg: also, is grsec as 'quantized' as selinux? that is, is it as fine-grained as selinux? |
| 02:17.36 | cafuego | versuchsanstalt: bianries don't do ascii |
| 02:17.36 | Roey | ok |
| 02:17.46 | MyGhetek | lol, i thought CVS was "comma valuues, seperated" |
| 02:17.51 | asg | Roey: grsec's RBAC is pretty fine grained but not as much as SE. |
| 02:17.52 | cafuego | versuchsanstalt: hence xdelta. md5sum only checks if theyr'e the same. |
| 02:18.03 | Roey | asg: but then, SE is immensely more complex ;) |
| 02:18.09 | asg | Roey: however, grsec is usable without userland changes. SE is not. |
| 02:18.13 | Roey | anyone here have ADHD by any chance? |
| 02:18.22 | MyGhetek | not me |
| 02:18.23 | Roey | asg: what kind of userland changes?? |
| 02:18.30 | asg | Roey: mrs. asg. has a number of students that are |
| 02:18.37 | asg | Roey: changes to ls, cp, mv, etc. |
| 02:18.47 | Roey | asg: eek I don't know if I wanna touch those... |
| 02:18.51 | versuchsanstalt | cafuego: now i see why you advertised it to me, of course. i wasnt looking for diff, i was looking for diff's $?, when I think of it. |
| 02:18.55 | asg | Roey: since SE uses extended attributes |
| 02:19.11 | versuchsanstalt | cafuego: which would be md5sum... :-) |
| 02:19.28 | Roey | asg: ok that makes sense. So I wonder if there are filesystems for archived media (like CDs) that support EAs |
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| 02:19.37 | Roey | like XFS and JFS and ext2/3 and reiser all do |
| 02:19.50 | MyGhetek | If I wanted to know where knoppix saves the KDE menu info on a hd install (via knoppix-installer) would that be a question to take up here or in some other channel? |
| 02:19.52 | asg | Roey: not likely, but don't quote me on that. |
| 02:20.06 | Guerin | MyGhetek: #knoopix |
| 02:20.10 | Guerin | s/oo/op/ |
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| 02:20.19 | Roey | anyway I said ADHD because I realized that I just can't sit through the documentation anymore.. I can't.. I lose patience and then I go onto some other shiny thing. |
| 02:20.22 | asg | Guerin: you've been doubling your 'o's all night ;) |
| 02:20.23 | MyGhetek | oh, oops |
| 02:20.23 | Roey | asg: got it |
| 02:20.29 | MyGhetek | didnt even realize i was in debian |
| 02:20.31 | MyGhetek | thanks! |
| 02:20.31 | Guerin | yeah, it's weird |
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| 02:20.44 | asg | Guerin: I remember a flooppy from early |
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| 02:20.50 | asg | s/early/earlier/ |
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| 02:20.52 | Guerin | this keyboard does double keystrokes a lot |
| 02:20.56 | Moonscope | is there a way in debian to find out what the ip of the connection to the net is? |
| 02:20.57 | cureless | "<MyGhetek> didnt even realize i was in debian" ?? |
| 02:21.05 | Guerin | nothing to do with kbdrate etc... |
| 02:21.07 | asg | Guerin: /sbin/kbdrate |
| 02:21.10 | asg | hah |
| 02:21.13 | cureless | Moonscope: ifconfig? |
| 02:21.13 | Guerin | been there :) |
| 02:21.18 | asg | done that |
| 02:21.23 | Moonscope | it isnt a interface in linux |
| 02:21.24 | Guerin | it's some hardware thing I think |
| 02:21.31 | Delph | Moonscope: how are you connected then? |
| 02:21.33 | Moonscope | the linux FW is connected to a router, and it has the ip |
| 02:21.36 | vittitellia | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.37 | asg | Guerin: or a bug squished underneath |
| 02:21.42 | Roey | asg: thanks! |
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| 02:21.43 | Delph | Moonscope: so walk to the router and ask it =:) |
| 02:21.44 | Roey | and good night |
| 02:21.46 | asg | !qotd118 |
| 02:21.47 | dpkg | < bouncing> This is not a Debian question, but you guys probably use Thinkpads... :) Can I take apart a thinkpad screen and literally remove an insect? < greycat> hahaha |
| 02:21.48 | asg | Roey: night |
| 02:21.51 | mklebel | i installed the kernel-patches package |
| 02:21.52 | Guerin | no, it happens with all keys |
| 02:21.53 | Delph | or ask a third party on the internet what it thinks you are. |
| 02:21.55 | cafuego | the rouyter is connected to the - backbone... |
| 02:21.56 | cureless | Moonscope: so you want to know the ip of your firewall? |
| 02:21.56 | mklebel | now where do i put the folder? |
| 02:22.05 | Roey | Delph, cureless you guys too, thanks for helping me. Good night! |
| 02:22.09 | asg | Guerin: ah, okay |
| 02:22.09 | Guerin | i've trained myself to type lighter, but i sometimes get a bit carless |
| 02:22.10 | Moonscope | i dont own the router, only the isp does |
| 02:22.10 | Moonscope | pretty much |
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| 02:22.16 | Delph | Moonscope: so ask the ISP |
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| 02:22.25 | kooldeb | Guerin: are you around ? |
| 02:22.33 | Moonscope | but if i use a webpage that does a 'what is my ip' thing it is proxied so i cant do that :( |
| 02:22.36 | cureless | Moonscope: are you connected to irc via that router/firewall? |
| 02:22.38 | Guerin | kooldeb: i'm not THAT round |
| 02:22.47 | Moonscope | i could ask the isp, but i am waiting for a call back from him, and you know isps :( |
| 02:22.55 | Moonscope | cureless: no |
| 02:22.57 | Delph | Moonscope: what do you mean, it's proxied? |
| 02:22.58 | kooldeb | Guerin: lol, I got the error , one sec lemem type it on |
| 02:23.05 | Delph | Moonscope: blatently that proxy is your IP then. |
| 02:23.25 | Delph | Moonscope: you seem to have multiple layers of proxying going on. |
| 02:23.30 | Moonscope | well the isp has a proxy that handles the packets, so it wont give me a true reading on my ip |
| 02:23.30 | cureless | Moonscope: well, just connect anywhere and see where you're connecting from. |
| 02:23.32 | Moonscope | yep |
| 02:23.35 | XennMZ | /quit |
| 02:23.41 | Moonscope | cureless: ? |
| 02:23.43 | Delph | Moonscope: so what do you mean 'your real IP' |
| 02:23.56 | Delph | if the ISP has a proxy that is handling the packets |
| 02:24.04 | Delph | then as far as the rest of the internet is concerned that *is* your IP |
| 02:24.10 | Moonscope | ok ok ok, i have a site, and at that site they are moving from isdn to wireless internet. |
| 02:24.22 | Moonscope | no, its only handleing the http packets |
| 02:24.24 | spoopin | asg: asg? |
| 02:24.29 | asg | spoopin: hiya |
| 02:24.32 | Delph | Moonscope: so ask it over another protocol =:) |
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| 02:24.38 | Moonscope | so i have moved all the firewall scripts etc to the new interface |
| 02:24.39 | cureless | Moonscope: if you have arouter/firewall that is nating you just connect somewhere and see what ip you're connecting from. |
| 02:24.43 | spoopin | asg: you got a phone nearby? |
| 02:24.51 | Moonscope | but the website that im going to only supports http |
| 02:24.56 | kooldeb | Guerin: VFS: cannot open root device “hda6” or unknown block (0,0). Please append a correct “root=” boot option. Kernel panic – no syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown – block (0,0) |
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| 02:25.02 | asg | yeah |
| 02:25.03 | Delph | Moonscope: so ask something like an IRCd say =) |
| 02:25.08 | Moonscope | and that is proxies :( |
| 02:25.09 | cafuego | Moonscope: 'telnet mail.cc.com.au 25', i'll tell you your IP. |
| 02:25.15 | Moonscope | hehe ok |
| 02:25.18 | Guerin | kooldeb: same problem as I explained earlier |
| 02:25.19 | Delph | ./whois moonscope |
| 02:25.22 | spoopin | asg: gimme a call at the house if you've got a second |
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| 02:25.41 | Moonscope | cafuego: im in |
| 02:25.50 | Guerin | Moonscope: haxx his gibson! |
| 02:25.54 | Moonscope | im not using this net connection |
| 02:25.59 | Moonscope | :) |
| 02:26.05 | kooldeb | Guerin: yup, but it does not tell us which module is not loaded or what is it complaning about a specific hardware so I can know I did enable it under the config file ? |
| 02:26.08 | cafuego | Moonscope: Can you type 'HELO foobar' ? |
| 02:26.27 | liable | hey a word that xenmc typed before he quit is flashing on me??? anyone else see that |
| 02:26.36 | vittitellia | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.55 | Guerin | kooldeb: what's your root filesystem and root drive interface chipset? |
| 02:27.22 | Moonscope | cafuego: damn you have relay access denied, LOL! |
| 02:27.23 | kooldeb | Guerin: not sure what you mean |
| 02:27.40 | Guerin | ... |
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| 02:27.50 | cafuego | Moonscope: of course! You in .au/ :-) |
| 02:27.53 | Guerin | dude, what's your root filesystem... the main one. |
| 02:28.00 | Moonscope | yup :) |
| 02:28.11 | mwilson | Guerin: You don't actually expect him to be able to answer that? |
| 02:28.20 | kooldeb | Guerin: its hda2 |
| 02:28.23 | Guerin | mwilson: one can hope. |
| 02:28.29 | kooldeb | oups hda6 sorry |
| 02:28.33 | Guerin | noooo |
| 02:28.43 | cafuego | There you go. |
| 02:28.49 | Guerin | fileSYSTEM ... like ext3, reiserfx, XFS, ... |
| 02:28.55 | kooldeb | ext3 |
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| 02:29.03 | kooldeb | you should have said FS type :) |
| 02:30.07 | cafuego | pfff. |
| 02:30.08 | Moonscope | cafuego: unfortunately i dont think that is it, cause i 'should' be able to ssh to it from that ip. |
| 02:30.12 | liable | how do you get a word to flash in irssi?/irc |
| 02:30.14 | Guerin | ok, so you need to build the ext2 and ext3 modules INTO the kernel, not as modules. Now, look in lspci |grep IDE and tell me what you see |
| 02:30.15 | Moonscope | oh, unless they havent forwarded the ports yet |
| 02:30.18 | Moonscope | nm me :) |
| 02:30.29 | cureless | Moonscope: did you find your ip? |
| 02:30.37 | cafuego | let me nmap it to buggery, one moment... |
| 02:30.48 | kooldeb | Guerin: unfortunately am not under Debian or even Linux |
| 02:30.55 | Moonscope | cureless: yeah, cafuego made me telnet to his boxor |
| 02:31.00 | sparr_ | ive got a game that 'captures' my mouse and keyboard. how can i force it to lose focus so i can manipulate other windows while its running? |
| 02:31.07 | kooldeb | Guerin: but say we got XXXXX as your answer |
| 02:31.17 | cureless | Moonscope: you can go to some place like http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest, it'll give you your info too. |
| 02:31.34 | cafuego | 'gccdomain.local' ? |
| 02:31.35 | vittitellia | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.53 | Moonscope | cureless: yes, although port 80 is being proxied by the isp, so it gives the proxy ip |
| 02:31.55 | Moonscope | :( |
| 02:32.08 | Moonscope | cafuego: yeah, thats the local domain name |
| 02:32.13 | Guerin | kooldeb: not down the manufacturer (via, intel, whoever), and build in all kernel modules relating to that manufacturer, plus all the generic ones, in the IDE section of menuconfig. |
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| 02:32.33 | pirat | hello all |
| 02:32.37 | Guerin | cureless: i find those things to be full of shit |
| 02:32.37 | cafuego | Moonscope: the web site claims to want to connect to an MS Exchange server |
| 02:32.44 | pirat | Õ ÂÌÑ |
| 02:32.45 | pirat | ÇÇÇÇÇÇÇ |
| 02:32.51 | kooldeb | Guerin: agreed. |
| 02:32.53 | Moonscope | cafuego: an exchange server is hosted there, yes. |
| 02:32.55 | cureless | Guerin: the ip is what he wanted |
| 02:33.01 | Guerin | cureless: oh, true. |
| 02:33.04 | kooldeb | Guerin: I jst read on google suggesting to o the same thing |
| 02:33.08 | pirat | ÜÜÜ ÂÌÑ |
| 02:33.11 | cafuego | Moonscope: school? |
| 02:33.16 | pirat | ÔÕÔ ÐÏ ÒÕÓÓËÉ ËÔÏÎÉÔØ ÂÁÚÁÒÉÔ? |
| 02:33.18 | Moonscope | cafuego: indeed |
| 02:33.24 | Guerin | the only real bandwidth test is to download something from your own isp |
| 02:33.30 | kooldeb | Guerin: check this out: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/501507 |
| 02:33.34 | Moonscope | cafuego: i work at alot of schools around the eastern coast of Australia. |
| 02:33.38 | Guerin | pirat: english/ascii , svp |
| 02:34.02 | MyGhetek | what about www.dslreports.com |
| 02:34.02 | Moonscope | huh? |
| 02:34.03 | sussudio | pirat: what are you? |
| 02:34.06 | pirat | ¬Guerin¼ I'm Russian! |
| 02:34.22 | pirat | ÇÇ ÐÏÄÏÎËÉ %) |
| 02:34.28 | cafuego | Moonscope: I work with victorian schools and the IT teacher's association (vitta.org.au) |
| 02:34.32 | kooldeb | pirat: neit. |
| 02:34.44 | Guerin | !.ru |
| 02:34.44 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 02:34.52 | Moonscope | cafuego: really, that is cool, |
| 02:35.22 | Delph | victorian schools? |
| 02:35.22 | Guerin | kooldeb: that's awfully vague. |
| 02:35.37 | kooldeb | Guerin: whats killing me is that why would the config file I used (from /boot/) which should have the chpset for the IDE and all other hardware already b4 even running make menuconfig. |
| 02:35.55 | bucky | and he's an AC/DC roadie by night |
| 02:36.03 | liable | so, did anyone else see that flashing word, or am I going bonkers |
| 02:36.03 | Guerin | kooldeb: they're built AS MODULES. You need to build them INTO the kernel, NOT as modules. |
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| 02:36.18 | Guerin | liable: I saw no flashing anything |
| 02:36.28 | kooldeb | Guerin: OHHHHH |
| 02:36.34 | Guerin | ... |
| 02:36.36 | kooldeb | <_- Gets IT |
| 02:36.37 | vittitellia | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:36.39 | liable | Guerin: scroll up to the end of 12:26 |
| 02:37.02 | Delph | liable: i'm not going to mention how un-useful that is, given everyone's clocks are likely to be slightly different. |
| 02:37.12 | MyGhetek | hahaha |
| 02:37.16 | Guerin | liable: yeah, I know. Nothing, you're clearly delusional. |
| 02:37.16 | kooldeb | Guerin: lol no wonder its not working ... |
| 02:37.16 | Delph | to the tune of, say, 9 hours =:) |
| 02:37.21 | liable | Delph: hah good point, 14 mins ago |
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| 02:37.30 | pirat | ÐÏÄÏÎËÉ |
| 02:37.30 | Guerin | Delph: minutes only are relevant |
| 02:37.31 | pirat | ÈÁÈÁÈÁ |
| 02:37.51 | kooldeb | pirat: suka |
| 02:37.52 | Delph | Guerin: was looking for a delta, actually =:) |
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| 02:38.30 | cafuego | Delph: They should all be running ntp-simple |
| 02:38.41 | MyGhetek | FYI its 7:34 pm here |
| 02:38.49 | MyGhetek | just putting that out there |
| 02:39.03 | cafuego | It's 22:35 where it matters |
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| 02:39.27 | pirat | Putin forever!!! |
| 02:39.31 | pirat | Putin forever!!! |
| 02:39.34 | Guerin | putin is a twat |
| 02:39.49 | cureless | Vodka forever! |
| 02:39.52 | kooldeb | PIRAT: dude, quit this silly stuff. |
| 02:40.03 | pirat | ¬Guerin¼ go to fack |
| 02:40.12 | cafuego | pirat: #politics is somewhere else. Stop spamming. |
| 02:40.13 | pirat | ¬cureless¼ Vodka good ^)) |
| 02:40.21 | cureless | da |
| 02:40.30 | kooldeb | pirat: ti suka ! |
| 02:40.33 | Guerin | any head of state who says the breakup of the USSR was a bigger geopolitical catastrophe than the second world war needs a swift lesson in re-education |
| 02:40.33 | cafuego | tequila is the new vodka |
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| 02:40.45 | Guerin | where is fack? |
| 02:40.46 | phaedral | hi all |
| 02:40.50 | cureless | I like tequila more than vodka |
| 02:40.51 | pirat | ¬kooldeb¼ idi na xyi |
| 02:41.18 | stew | !ru |
| 02:41.18 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 02:41.31 | phaedral | looking for a clue; mixed system, apt-get 2.6 kernel, breaks X (and i'll be getting the $.25 to greycat...) |
| 02:41.37 | vittitellia | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.48 | stew | phaedral: what does mixed system mean? |
| 02:41.55 | Guerin | woody+experimental |
| 02:41.59 | kooldeb | Guerin: any idea when one does an lspci which file is actually read ? |
| 02:42.06 | stew | phaedral: and can you be at least a little more specific than 'breaks x" |
| 02:42.09 | cafuego | можете вы пожалуйÑта пойти прочь теперь? |
| 02:42.10 | phaedral | mostly testing |
| 02:42.12 | Guerin | something in /proc |
| 02:42.19 | Guerin | cafuego: very clever |
| 02:42.29 | Delph | ooh, we love our tenepb =:) |
| 02:42.37 | phaedral | stew: uh, paste errors to #flood? |
| 02:42.38 | cafuego | Guerin: cleve is my middle name |
| 02:42.41 | cafuego | clever |
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| 02:42.44 | stew | phaedral: sure |
| 02:42.49 | pirat | give me op please :) |
| 02:42.51 | mwilson | kooldeb: If there's some reason you think you actually need to know, read the source, and find out. |
| 02:42.52 | stew | phaedral: what is the part that is not testing? |
| 02:42.53 | kooldeb | Guerin: which means it will work only when the system is up |
| 02:42.53 | xoz | kooldeb: /proc/bus/pci/ |
| 02:42.55 | Guerin | !op pirat |
| 02:43.00 | kooldeb | pirat: da ! |
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| 02:43.12 | Guerin | hrm, I seem to recall there being a command like that |
| 02:43.24 | kooldeb | mwilson: do you have something against me ? |
| 02:43.31 | pirat | ¬kooldeb¼ chto da? |
| 02:43.49 | kooldeb | pirat: chto niet. |
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| 02:44.03 | kooldeb | pirat: nie otvet ! |
| 02:44.04 | pirat | ne typi |
| 02:44.20 | kooldeb | ne vapros. |
| 02:44.21 | stew | kooldeb: /join #debian-russian |
| 02:44.29 | Guerin | pirat: stop, or someone's liable to stop you. |
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| 02:44.40 | kooldeb | stew: I dont speak russian. |
| 02:44.48 | pirat | ¬kooldeb¼ poshli stew na xyi plise |
| 02:44.48 | xoz | multilingual #debian |
| 02:45.03 | stew | kooldeb: english only in here |
| 02:45.05 | XennTest | foo |
| 02:45.09 | sussudio | alindeman: do you know who this person "pirat" is? his usermask says lem.freenode.net and he's being an annoyance. |
| 02:45.11 | mwilson | kooldeb: You think suggesting you go to the single best place to answer your question means I have something against you? |
| 02:45.25 | cafuego | еÑли вы хотите поговорить руÑÑкого, то пойдите к #debian-russian |
| 02:45.26 | XennTest | bar |
| 02:45.49 | kooldeb | mwilson: no its just the way it wa suggested . |
| 02:46.10 | kooldeb | mwilson: my bad if your intentions were good. |
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| 02:46.36 | vittitellia | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:46.45 | cafuego | vittitellia: Are you a bot? |
| 02:46.45 | kooldeb | stew: ya I know |
| 02:46.50 | pirat | ¬sussudio¼ you are a deer? |
| 02:47.06 | stew | kooldeb: you know what? |
| 02:47.12 | sussudio | ok, can someone remove pirat now? |
| 02:47.33 | sussudio | !ops please remove pirat from this channel, is being an annoyance. |
| 02:47.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please remove pirat from this channel, is being an annoyance. |
| 02:47.49 | Guerin | annd he endorses vladimir putin |
| 02:47.55 | xoz | heh |
| 02:48.12 | helix | pirat: cut it out |
| 02:48.18 | bob2 | pirat: can you try to not be an utter fucktard? |
| 02:48.21 | bob2 | pirat: please? |
| 02:48.54 | vittitellia | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.19 | kooldeb | youpi ? |
| 02:49.28 | pirat | ¬bob2¼ ok |
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| 02:50.07 | asdef | !list |
| 02:50.07 | dpkg | one warez list being sent |
| 02:50.12 | Fo | !kernal |
| 02:50.12 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 02:50.15 | sussudio | ... |
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| 02:50.20 | Phated | Uhm, wtf. |
| 02:50.20 | bob2 | er |
| 02:50.26 | sussudio | !permasunday |
| 02:50.26 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday! |
| 02:50.27 | Fo | my bind is working |
| 02:50.28 | bob2 | can you all try to not be so annoying please? |
| 02:50.32 | Fo | finally |
| 02:51.06 | XennTstr | foo |
| 02:51.15 | XennTstr | bar |
| 02:51.19 | stew | dpkg permasunday is also http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 02:51.19 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 02:51.36 | asdef | !nvidia |
| 02:51.37 | dpkg | nvidia is, like, DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 02:51.41 | sussudio | stew: no, that's !sing sunday |
| 02:51.46 | stew | !sing sunday |
| 02:51.47 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 02:51.56 | asdef | !nvidia one-lineer |
| 02:52.00 | pirat | ¬bob2¼ give me !op please ) |
| 02:52.08 | Guerin | !tell asdef about msg |
| 02:52.19 | sussudio | famous last words. |
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| 02:52.36 | cafuego | How special is a laptop on which the screen flashes in sync with the laser head movements of the cdrom drive? |
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| 02:53.13 | brak | nvidia one-liner |
| 02:53.23 | phaedral | stew: sorry 'bout that |
| 02:53.26 | Guerin | brak: message the damn bots |
| 02:53.46 | Guerin | brak: changing your nick isn't a very good way of being stealthy |
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| 02:54.23 | phaedral | still willing to take a look on #flood for me? |
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| 02:59.28 | pirat | ccp russian? |
| 02:59.31 | simonrvn | goddamn there's .... fucking tards |
| 02:59.31 | liable | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.40 | simonrvn | pirat: STFU |
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| 03:01.50 | mklebel | how do i adjust my mouse sensetivity? |
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| 03:02.11 | mklebel | nm |
| 03:02.16 | xoz | last night was full of moon, now it is still *full of moon* |
| 03:03.03 | simonrvn | full moon was 4 days ago |
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| 03:03.19 | Delph | soo the jaffacakes will take us all |
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| 03:04.18 | xoz | simonrvn: moon means *luna* tics |
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| 03:04.47 | simonrvn | yes, i know what lunatic means |
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| 03:05.50 | airbrush | hello all |
| 03:05.55 | budluva | is ipmasq supposed to automatically configure my network to share the internet between 2 computers? |
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| 03:06.24 | mokomull | Can one reload a driver on the fly with XFree86? I have a touchpad, and when I sleep with ACPI, the X11 driver doesn't work, forcing me to restart X. But once I restart X, it works again. |
| 03:06.24 | budluva | i've installed ipmasq and started it, but i still cant access the internet from my 2nd pc, but i can ssh and ftp to this machine no problem |
| 03:06.54 | mokomull | budluva: Do you have the "client" set up with the "server" IP as the "gateway"? |
| 03:07.09 | kooldeb | guys, is there an option in Debian which will allow me to put the system to hibernate or sleep state ? |
| 03:07.24 | mokomull | (if it's Linux: `route add default gw 192.168.0.1` for example) |
| 03:07.41 | mokomull | kooldeb: It depends on a few things... graphically or command line? |
| 03:07.41 | budluva | mokomull, yes, 2nd pc is 192.168.0.2 using this machine 192.168.0.1 ass gateway, both on same subnet |
| 03:07.46 | bob2 | kooldeb: sure, but not without fucking around |
| 03:07.58 | kooldeb | mokomull either, I dont care |
| 03:08.02 | bob2 | kooldeb: on ppc you should be fine |
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| 03:08.17 | mokomull | Well as a first attempt, you can try (as root) `echo 2 >/proc/acpi/sleep` |
| 03:08.35 | bob2 | you need a modern kernel for that |
| 03:08.38 | bob2 | ie 2.6.10 or so |
| 03:08.44 | bob2 | and to be very very lucky |
| 03:08.55 | bob2 | many video cards just won't work after resume like that |
| 03:09.10 | kooldeb | bob2: I will have the 2.6.11 running |
| 03:09.30 | kooldeb | wow, seems like sleep or hibernate support in linux is not that well |
| 03:09.33 | bob2 | get mjg59's acpi-support package, too |
| 03:09.38 | bob2 | kooldeb: no, it works on lots of hardware |
| 03:09.44 | bob2 | debian just doesn't have all the stuff yet |
| 03:09.55 | liable | bob2: your mate is back |
| 03:10.17 | bob2 | ? |
| 03:10.20 | liable | pirat: |
| 03:10.36 | bob2 | yes |
| 03:10.40 | bob2 | but it hasn't said anything yet |
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| 03:10.57 | anarcat | hey everyone |
| 03:11.15 | anarcat | what are the minimum GRANTs I should give debian-sys-maint, admitting I crashed my privilege table? |
| 03:11.21 | anarcat | SHUTDOWN should be enough, right? |
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| 03:12.32 | bob2 | anarcat: doesn't the README.Debian explain it? |
| 03:12.36 | bob2 | I vaguely remember it doing so |
| 03:12.42 | anarcat | bob2: nope |
| 03:12.42 | budluva | can someone tell me why ipmasq doesnt automatically configure my network to share the internet connection i have? |
| 03:12.53 | bob2 | because you have a weird network |
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| 03:13.15 | bob2 | anarcat: read /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server.postinst to see what it does to the db |
| 03:13.20 | anarcat | bob2: anyways, the only function of debian-sys-maint is to make a shutdown, no? |
| 03:13.42 | N-MAN | hi, well can some one help me? i want to test gnome 2.10 experimental , i have the sources list... but now what? |
| 03:13.43 | bob2 | I have no idea, I don't use mysql |
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| 03:13.45 | budluva | after i restart ipmasq i still dont have net access on my 2nd machine, and i've enabled ip_forward in my /etc/network/options and restarted ipmasq, still nothing...i can ping between both machines, and i can even ssh into this machine from my other machine, just no net access.....i |
| 03:13.53 | dondelelcaro | anarcat: it has a few other functions, but that's the primary one. |
| 03:13.53 | bob2 | reading that file will tell you exactly what to do, though. |
| 03:14.25 | N-MAN | ? |
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| 03:15.08 | bob2 | N-MAN: #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
| 03:15.10 | anarcat | bob2: reading that file tells me it doesn't really use the debian-sys-maint user, but *creates* it :) |
| 03:15.21 | anarcat | unless i missed something |
| 03:15.22 | bob2 | anarcat: yes, I know |
| 03:15.29 | bob2 | so you create it with the same permissions |
| 03:15.33 | N-MAN | bob2: thanks! ;-) |
| 03:15.46 | anarcat | doh! |
| 03:16.10 | anarcat | well, there |
| 03:16.23 | anarcat | that setup there gives all privileges to debian-sys-maint |
| 03:16.26 | anarcat | that's wrong, no? |
| 03:16.33 | anarcat | it just makes debian-sys-maint like root |
| 03:17.09 | anarcat | hey, that script does neat tricks :) |
| 03:17.11 | Moonscope | cafuego: you there? |
| 03:17.18 | anarcat | set +e, never thought of that :) |
| 03:18.36 | anarcat | well |
| 03:19.08 | budluva | could someone please point me in the direction of a good ipmasq tutorial? |
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| 03:19.22 | Moonscope | i need to do a port scan on an ip address, how do i do so? |
| 03:19.30 | Moonscope | is there a command in linux? |
| 03:19.30 | maher | MoonMind: nmap |
| 03:19.41 | Moonscope | heheheh, /me isnt MoonMind |
| 03:19.49 | bob2 | "need to" |
| 03:19.50 | bob2 | sure |
| 03:19.55 | zeeble | heh |
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| 03:22.56 | airbrush | after running "update-menus" do I have to reboot to see any change? |
| 03:23.32 | mokomull | I guess X11 can't reload a driver on-the-fly? |
| 03:23.36 | zeeble | maybe just restart the window manager. |
| 03:23.37 | maher | airbrush: relogin in to X shold suffice |
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| 03:23.51 | airbrush | ok, thanks |
| 03:24.06 | maher | airbrush: in fact just restarting the wm should work |
| 03:24.30 | XennTester | foo |
| 03:24.45 | airbrush | hehe nice foo |
| 03:24.47 | XennTester | bar |
| 03:24.51 | rectum | what is an Efoo |
| 03:24.52 | airbrush | bas |
| 03:25.01 | airbrush | foo biddy bar bas |
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| 03:25.35 | rectum | biddy s bop t biddy f bop u |
| 03:25.39 | XennTester | I made this irc client i'm on !!! that's what an EFoo is!!! |
| 03:25.45 | airbrush | uh oh, a hillbilly with a computer! =) |
| 03:26.10 | rectum | where |
| 03:26.19 | airbrush | mountain man |
| 03:26.25 | zeeble | rectum: that sounds so like the horrible Dragostea Din Tei song by Ozone |
| 03:26.28 | rectum | who's a hillbilly |
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| 03:26.31 | rectum | actually |
| 03:26.34 | bob2 | come on people |
| 03:26.40 | rectum | there is amessage hidden between the biddys and the bops |
| 03:26.47 | chino | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:26.53 | rectum | figure it out, and you win a free stfu |
| 03:26.54 | rectum | :) |
| 03:27.17 | airbrush | your nick is very fitting <]8) |
| 03:27.29 | rectum | tyvm |
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| 03:27.33 | rectum | *bow* |
| 03:27.34 | bob2 | isn't /dev/nb1 a network block device instead of loopback? |
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| 03:28.17 | rectum | hmm I wonder |
| 03:28.20 | rectum | we have bob and there is no such nick as bob1 |
| 03:28.25 | rectum | but we have a bob2 |
| 03:28.30 | rectum | we have a bob missing! oh no! |
| 03:28.30 | rectum | :D |
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| 03:29.06 | challenged | bob 1 = crashed......therefore it became bob1_going down |
| 03:29.10 | KKS_ | hi is here some one |
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| 03:29.43 | challenged | yeah theres peeps here |
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| 03:30.10 | KKS_ | are still spoken english here |
| 03:30.17 | KKS_ | or other speaks |
| 03:30.31 | maher | KKS_: many speaks are spoken |
| 03:30.40 | KKS_ | german |
| 03:30.44 | maher | !de |
| 03:30.44 | KKS_ | ?° |
| 03:30.44 | dpkg | it has been said that de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 03:31.10 | mokomull | Can one reload a driver on the fly with XFree86? I have a touchpad, and when I sleep with ACPI, the X11 driver doesn't work, forcing me to restart X. But once I restart X, it works again. |
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| 03:31.49 | airbrush | respawn? |
| 03:31.59 | pixil9 | Anyone know a good eggdrop script for a ?? bot? |
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| 03:32.15 | rectum | hehe |
| 03:32.15 | rectum | which lanuguage do you prefer KKS_ |
| 03:32.15 | rectum | I am sure there is a debian channel for your language |
| 03:32.15 | rectum | try #debian-de |
| 03:32.15 | rectum | or that |
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| 03:32.17 | cromd | nevyn: are you still in contact with cai? |
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| 03:32.33 | KKS_ | thx i test it |
| 03:32.33 | stew | pixil9: #eggdrop |
| 03:32.34 | KKS_ | :) |
| 03:32.44 | stew | KKS_: he means #debian.de not #debian-de |
| 03:32.49 | challenged | mokomull: : when you go into acpi suspend or whatever does it send a message to mouse driver at all? may just be missing a reactivate type command |
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| 03:33.00 | rectum | I am lagging bigtime |
| 03:33.00 | rectum | wow |
| 03:33.22 | kjs3 | Anyone using Debian on Xen? In particular, anyone successfully compiled a custom dom0 debian kernel? |
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| 03:33.40 | vpr | hello |
| 03:33.48 | KKS_ | i´m on #debian.de |
| 03:33.53 | KKS_ | bit there is nobody |
| 03:33.58 | KKS_ | -i+u |
| 03:34.00 | zeeble | maybe they are asleep. |
| 03:34.03 | rectum | try #debian-de |
| 03:34.07 | rectum | maybe |
| 03:34.13 | vpr | i am tring to isntall somthing via make install a makefile is there, but debian sarge says: -bash: make: command not found |
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| 03:34.20 | rectum | i dunno, is no one around is the channel empty? |
| 03:34.23 | zeeble | No. the channel is #debian.de. Just that too early in the morning for anyone to be up. |
| 03:34.24 | rectum | +or |
| 03:34.26 | vpr | how do you fix this? |
| 03:34.34 | stew | !b-e vpr |
| 03:34.35 | dpkg | vpr: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 03:34.37 | K_Dallas | vpr, install it thru apt-get |
| 03:34.40 | anarcat | 'night everyone |
| 03:34.40 | maher | vpr: apt-get install build-essential |
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| 03:34.46 | vpr | thanks |
| 03:34.49 | challenged | vpr: try running as root for it...or build essentials missing |
| 03:34.58 | zeeble | make as root? |
| 03:35.05 | vpr | i am |
| 03:35.07 | vpr | :d |
| 03:35.13 | vpr | im installing build thing |
| 03:35.17 | stew | never run make as root |
| 03:35.31 | challenged | vpr: build-essentials should solve it then 8) |
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| 03:35.56 | challenged | anyone used tora here ? |
| 03:36.13 | maher | vpr: what are you building |
| 03:36.29 | zeeble | challenged: the one that works like toad? |
| 03:36.58 | bob2 | challenged: togra? |
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| 03:37.40 | challenged | zeeble: yeah .....is there a way to get it to hook up to a oracle server not on linux? i have a soalris server running oracle i need to use tora on but as i dont have oracle on the sarge box i cant get connectivity....im thinking it has no tnsnames etc |
| 03:37.42 | zeeble | tora is this .. umm, toolkit to connect to oracle/databases, a sql debugger, etc |
| 03:37.47 | bob2 | ah |
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| 03:38.06 | challenged | bob2: Tora toolkit for oracle admins |
| 03:38.22 | mokomull | challenged: Well, when I restart X, the trackpad magically starts working. |
| 03:38.36 | zeeble | challenged: well, it will connect to any oracle database. nothing to do with the OS. you need to check your tnsnames.ora |
| 03:39.01 | zeeble | challenged: i've connected tora to DBs running on Solaris and win32. |
| 03:39.11 | challenged | zeeble: and where exactly should i have a tnsnames.ora in linux? |
| 03:39.22 | mokomull | It's like the /dev/event2 file is being "closed" by the kernel upon sleep, then X doesn't reopen it upon resume |
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| 03:39.44 | challenged | zeeble: i have the files on windows boxen so i can transfer them if they are the same....(ascii files) |
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| 03:40.08 | zeeble | challenged: they're mostly the same. but easier if you install the Oracle Client tools on your puter. |
| 03:40.47 | challenged | zeeble: is there a deb file for it? |
| 03:41.02 | Essobi | Anyone using a Radeon X300? |
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| 03:41.05 | waxboy | hello |
| 03:41.19 | challenged | !wave |
| 03:41.19 | dpkg | /me waves at $1 |
| 03:41.31 | zeeble | challenged: er, no. you get the Oracle Client CD for linux, downloadable from oracle's OTN, and insatll it. it needs a JRE installed. |
| 03:41.47 | Essobi | Anyone using a Radeon X300 in X multihead? |
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| 03:41.55 | Essobi | Eewww.. JRE. |
| 03:41.58 | mokomull | Oh, well... I'll research further about my trackpad tomorrow... I've got to go to sleep. |
| 03:42.16 | challenged | zeeble kk yeah ill get right on that......*giggles at his 28.8 connection to the net atm and thinks maybee ill just download it at home hehe |
| 03:42.25 | zeeble | challenged: heh. |
| 03:42.54 | vpr | does 1250000MB == 1250GB ? |
| 03:43.22 | mokomull | vpr: Yes. |
| 03:43.22 | vpr | that must be the most stupid question here |
| 03:43.26 | challenged | zeeble: thx matey ive been meaning to work that out...hey what about oracle forms for linux?/oracle forms in wine?....ever had a play? |
| 03:43.28 | Essobi | Jeez.. what is this? College night? Purdue.edu and mit.edu |
| 03:43.29 | vpr | but i get confused of the huge numbers |
| 03:43.29 | vpr | lol |
| 03:43.31 | Nurbs | vpr: depends. |
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| 03:43.46 | zeeble | challenged: hehe, no. never done those. |
| 03:44.04 | KKS_ | can any body help me without mx bad english :) |
| 03:44.07 | kjs3 | vpr: it depends on how anal you are...most of us consider that good enough. |
| 03:44.09 | KKS_ | -x+y |
| 03:44.10 | Nurbs | vpr: 1250000/1024 GB :) depends on who you ask |
| 03:44.14 | challenged | vpr: technically iut isnt but thats close enough to rock and rool |
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| 03:45.46 | challenged | zeeble: kk well i may embark on those adventures tommorow so if your around i may have dubm questions hehe...i hate oracle net8 crap |
| 03:45.52 | stew | challenged: depends on if mb stands for megabytes or mebibytes depending on who you ask |
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| 03:46.05 | simonrvn | i've seen dumber questions, trust me on that |
| 03:46.07 | kjs3 | oracle == eeevil |
| 03:46.21 | maher | simonrvn: does linux run on redhat? |
| 03:46.26 | jayc | I have a configure script complaining about my Qt headers and libraries, I have everything qt related I can find installed like headers and stuff is this an environment variable I'm missing perhaps? |
| 03:46.30 | stew | !annoy simonrvn |
| 03:46.30 | dpkg | CPE00104b0bc51d-CM00003923805e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
| 03:46.30 | challenged | stew: where ya from countrywise? |
| 03:46.31 | zeeble | hehe |
| 03:46.57 | simonrvn | maher: does your donkey run on water? |
| 03:47.02 | maher | simonrvn: yes |
| 03:47.06 | simonrvn | amazing |
| 03:47.17 | stew | challenged: us |
| 03:47.38 | kelmo | jayc: QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 or --with-qtdir= (should be in configure script) |
| 03:48.23 | challenged | stew: ahh kk....the nick matches one of an old friends....my long lost brother numsy |
| 03:48.50 | stew | i'm certainly neither numsy or your brother :) |
| 03:49.16 | waxboy | question: is it possible to install the java runtime engine with apt-get? |
| 03:49.25 | stew | challenged: i bought the nick from him on ebay though |
| 03:49.28 | zinx | waxboy: kinda |
| 03:49.36 | zinx | waxboy: there's an installer available via apt-get |
| 03:49.37 | stew | waxboy: /msg dpkg java |
| 03:49.39 | maher | waxboy: use java-package |
| 03:49.58 | jayc | kelmo: thx |
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| 03:51.15 | waxboy | hmm, apt-get.org only shows one server with java-package |
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| 03:51.33 | zinx | waxboy: it's in the standard repository..... |
| 03:51.41 | stew | waxboy: are you on woody or sarge? |
| 03:51.48 | jayc | kelmo: it's still complaining |
| 03:52.03 | stew | jayc: what are you trying to compile/ |
| 03:52.07 | jayc | anyone know where to get a good deb of ksmoothdock for sid |
| 03:52.13 | jayc | stew: ksmoothdock |
| 03:52.17 | waxboy | stew: sarge |
| 03:52.17 | kelmo | jayc: can't really help any more without know exactly what your compiling |
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| 03:52.24 | KKS_ | help |
| 03:52.26 | KKS_ | [L] 530 TLS subsystem failed. Check /var/log (syslog) for details... |
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| 03:52.30 | KKS_ | what dose it mean |
| 03:52.32 | waxboy | zinx: i don't have any working servers in my sources.list yet |
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| 03:52.47 | zurishaddai | !nv one-liner |
| 03:52.49 | zurishaddai | !nvidia |
| 03:52.49 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 03:52.58 | zurishaddai | !nvidia one-liner |
| 03:52.58 | dpkg | methinks nvidia one-liner is apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential module-assistant && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. see <non-free sources> |
| 03:53.01 | stew | waxboy: apt-get install java-package |
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| 03:53.08 | stew | waxboy: apt-setup |
| 03:53.26 | stew | zurishaddai: /msg the bot |
| 03:53.40 | stew | KKS_: did you check /var/log/syslog? |
| 03:53.49 | waxboy | stew: thanks, be right back |
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| 03:55.03 | KKS_ | yes but i don´t now what its mean |
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| 03:57.25 | wactuary | New Promise SATAII150 TX4 not recognized on my sarge machine. modprobed sata_promise with no errors, but lspci reports "Unknown mass storage controller". What should I try to get this working? |
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| 04:00.32 | liable | wactuary: maybe try newer kernel? |
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| 04:01.30 | wactuary | I'm using the 2.6.8 from sarge. Do you recommend a more appropriate one? |
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| 04:02.41 | i3dmaster | where can I find the complete list of sections that I can use for the deb control file? |
| 04:03.35 | i3dmaster | where can I find the complete list of sections that I can use for the deb control file? |
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| 04:03.49 | arthurnis | test |
| 04:03.57 | stew | i3dmaster: the policy manual |
| 04:04.17 | Moonscope | so, where do i put links so a debian machine runs them on boot? for a firewall script |
| 04:04.24 | i3dmaster | stew: ah ok. let me check |
| 04:04.37 | stew | Moonscope: read /etc/init.d/README |
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| 04:05.06 | liable | wactuary: looks like it works in 2.6.11 (cause people are complaining about it), try googling, I have no idea |
| 04:06.04 | fulldisclosure | Linux wildbook 2.6.10-5-powerpc #1 Tue Apr 5 12:44:32 UTC 2005 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 04:06.24 | wactuary | I'll return to google. Thanks for pointing me in a good direction. |
| 04:06.56 | i3dmaster | stew: I got it. Thanks very much stew! |
| 04:06.56 | liable | wactuary: http://www.altlinux.org/index.php?module=sisyphus&package=kernel-modules-promise-std-up |
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| 04:07.04 | cromd | nevyn: it'll have to wait, best regards Squire |
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| 04:07.20 | stew | i3dmaster: cheers |
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| 04:07.35 | simonrvn | Linux pylon 2.6.11.6-pylon #4 Wed Mar 30 06:28:03 EST 2005 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 04:07.41 | simonrvn | while we're at it |
| 04:07.47 | stew | are we at it? |
| 04:07.54 | simonrvn | looks like it |
| 04:08.04 | simonrvn | up and at 'em! |
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| 04:09.10 | Moonscope | thx stealth |
| 04:09.12 | Moonscope | thx stew |
| 04:09.22 | waxboy | stew: apt-get can't find java-package on us.debian.org, did i miss something? |
| 04:09.23 | stew | Linux bayardadtools.com 2.4.20-021stab028.5.777-enterprise #1 SMP Tue Feb 22 17:44:46 MSK 2005 i686 unknown |
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| 04:09.34 | stew | that was the grossest one i could find |
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| 04:09.45 | Rayyyy | You can use AMD64 on a 32bit debian installation right? |
| 04:09.48 | stew | waxboy: packages.debian.org/java-package |
| 04:09.49 | simonrvn | $god damn... |
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| 04:10.05 | Rayyyy | err, You can use the AMD64 kernel on a 32bit debian installation right? |
| 04:10.21 | XennTest | /celar |
| 04:10.44 | Paganist | Rayyyy: Sorry, i was about to answer you but repeating and flooding the channel as you did will prevent me from this |
| 04:11.11 | stew | Rayyyy: no |
| 04:11.11 | Paganist | no need to repeat, people see what you write |
| 04:11.25 | Rayyyy | ... dear god i was clairifing amd64 was ambigious in the context |
| 04:11.35 | waxboy | stew: is that http or ftp? |
| 04:11.35 | stew | Paganist: oh get off your high horse |
| 04:11.41 | digibox | is there something wrong with this link? >> http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc3/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso |
| 04:11.43 | stew | waxboy: http |
| 04:11.45 | vpr | thanks i have to go |
| 04:11.49 | vpr | cya guys :d |
| 04:11.52 | digibox | I have problems with DLing from that |
| 04:12.05 | digibox | it hangs and I never get to DL it |
| 04:12.16 | Rayyyy | stew: Thanks for responce, Paganist welcome to ignore. |
| 04:12.19 | vpr | if anyone host any servers with debian (the best os in the world) you can use a free cp like cpanel but opensource vhcs.net :D |
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| 04:12.35 | Paganist | stealth: sorry, misread, thought he repeated 3 times |
| 04:12.44 | Paganist | Rayyyy: whatever |
| 04:12.49 | Paganist | damn |
| 04:12.54 | Paganist | stew: sorry, misread, thought he repeated 3 times |
| 04:13.01 | simonrvn | cpanel seems like a PITA |
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| 04:13.15 | digibox | anyone know? or is it a problem with my browser or something |
| 04:13.18 | stew | digibox: i'm getting 400kb/s from there |
| 04:13.25 | stew | digibox: with wget |
| 04:13.40 | digibox | hmmm ok ill try wget |
| 04:13.58 | stew | simonrvn: cpanel sucks |
| 04:14.12 | stew | simonrvn: i have to deal with that crap constantly |
| 04:14.18 | digibox | hmmm thats wierd. wget gets it but firefox wont |
| 04:14.42 | stew | 'just let me edit the goddam zone file, and stay out of my way' i find myself saying that or something similar all the time |
| 04:15.14 | liable | digibox: I had that prob once, cant rmember what fixed it |
| 04:16.00 | digibox | hmmm I think I might use wget more often. seems to DL faster then firefox DL manager too |
| 04:16.54 | digibox | oh question about wget. does it DL one file at a time if you have it searching for like *.jpg or would it try to dl multiple or is there a configuration or setting to set it one or two files at a time |
| 04:17.05 | simonrvn | stew: i took one look at it, and went "WTF?! take over the entire system?! no way!" |
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| 04:17.16 | simonrvn | leave my debian alone |
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| 04:18.04 | karsten | simonrvn: What was this? cpanel? |
| 04:18.12 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 04:18.17 | digibox | I wish I could DL at 400kb/s |
| 04:18.23 | karsten | ...or an Overxor. |
| 04:18.49 | karsten | simonrvn: WTF _is_ cpanel anyhow? |
| 04:19.34 | digibox | karsten, cpanel is a program for websites to configure email, mysql, and other stuff in your website |
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| 04:20.19 | wactuary | liable: Thanks! I'll look at that link. |
| 04:21.22 | karsten | digibox: *You* need SNAP: http://www.notes.co.il/benbasat/10991.asp |
| 04:21.23 | Rayyy | So before i continue let me ask this, AMD64 will not work on 32bit sid, I wonder about this because at home I have built my own kernel from source and have AMD64 selected as the subarch and it runs everything fine, right now i am running amd64 (machine with irssi) just that xwindows seems to have some problems with vesa among other things, and alsa spams my kernel error log |
| 04:21.24 | Moonscope | anyone know anything about using isdn in debian? |
| 04:21.31 | digibox | karsten, it mostly has stuff that sets up things without you haveing to have shell access and installs php and cgi programs without you realy having to think about the programs |
| 04:21.34 | Moonscope | i wanna know how to get rid of the interface and stop it dialling |
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| 04:22.02 | digibox | I need SNAP? why do I need SNAP? |
| 04:22.19 | karsten | digibox: Dig. |
| 04:22.23 | karsten | digibox: Read link. |
| 04:22.29 | rave | lol |
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| 04:22.37 | rave | that sounded funny :p |
| 04:22.49 | cafuego | digibox: 42 |
| 04:22.53 | guorke | can i ask a question about cvs? |
| 04:23.04 | rave | ok |
| 04:23.12 | digibox | woh its the meaning to life! |
| 04:23.12 | cafuego | guorke: Yes, but you may not ask a question about asking a question about cvs. |
| 04:23.21 | karsten | !ops what's the knoppix voice block here? Pattern? |
| 04:23.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: what's the knoppix voice block here? Pattern |
| 04:23.31 | karsten | !tell guorke about ask |
| 04:23.47 | cafuego | karsten: When a knoppix user joins, we crush their throat. |
| 04:23.52 | guorke | can diff command get like this ?http://cvs.samba.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/rsync/exclude.c.diff?r1=1.8&r2=1.9&f=h |
| 04:23.59 | guorke | olny display diffrence and Output in two columns. |
| 04:24.01 | karsten | cafuego: Yeah, one of 'em's privmsging me. |
| 04:24.18 | karsten | cafuego: it's knoppix.* or *.knoppix.*? |
| 04:24.32 | cafuego | karsten: umode +CE; /ignore *!*knoppix*@* |
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| 04:25.05 | bluefox83 | testing.. |
| 04:25.06 | karsten | cafuego: Thanks. |
| 04:25.09 | bluefox83 | yay! |
| 04:25.13 | karsten | cafuego: That was him . |
| 04:25.15 | cafuego | guorke: 'cvs diff' ? I doubt it. |
| 04:25.19 | karsten | @wb bluefox83 |
| 04:25.23 | ravenbird | Welcome back bluefox83, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of chaos. |
| 04:25.25 | rave | guorke: it cam if there is no diff |
| 04:25.57 | bluefox83 | how the heck to i edit the list of modules loaded when booting a 2.6 kernel? |
| 04:25.57 | bluefox83 | kernel image.. |
| 04:25.57 | bluefox83 | downloaded with apt >.> |
| 04:25.58 | guorke | cvs diff -y -r .. |
| 04:25.59 | rave | i need coffie :) |
| 04:26.02 | guorke | like this |
| 04:26.04 | digibox | o.o |
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| 04:26.17 | guorke | i want get like http://cvs.samba.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/rsync/exclude.c.diff?r1=1.8&r2=1.9&f=h |
| 04:26.34 | digibox | hi bluefox83 |
| 04:26.35 | bluefox83 | ty karsten for your assistance in helping me get in with a voice.. |
| 04:26.40 | bluefox83 | hi digibox |
| 04:26.49 | rave | uhum |
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| 04:27.12 | digibox | oups |
| 04:27.14 | bluefox83 | O.o |
| 04:27.26 | bluefox83 | yeah..uhm..i'm a guy..just so you know.. |
| 04:27.31 | rave | guorke its the same, heh |
| 04:27.42 | digibox | so |
| 04:27.52 | bluefox83 | cafuego, feel free to send me any unwanted laptops :D |
| 04:28.01 | digibox | cafuego, should give me any extra laptops |
| 04:28.04 | rave | bomb laptops |
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| 04:28.21 | KKS_ | hey how i start create_server_key.sh |
| 04:28.23 | cafuego | bluefox83: Most are broken |
| 04:28.24 | KKS_ | on linux |
| 04:28.26 | KKS_ | system |
| 04:28.39 | bluefox83 | cafuego, exactly how "broken"? |
| 04:28.42 | cafuego | karsten: sh ./create_server_key.sh |
| 04:28.54 | guorke | if just cvs diff -fu -y -r1.8 -r1.9 exclude.c |
| 04:28.56 | rave | thats so oldschool |
| 04:28.58 | karsten | !misfire cafuego |
| 04:29.01 | guorke | it will display all lines |
| 04:29.01 | karsten | KKS_: ^^ |
| 04:29.11 | rave | ./create_server_key.sh |
| 04:29.18 | rave | newschool :) |
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| 04:29.29 | guorke | i want only see different lines |
| 04:29.29 | KKS_ | karsten was?! |
| 04:29.31 | cafuego | bluefox83: One has a busted mobo and doesn't recognise pcmcia cards properly, the other has a broken cpu fan and the screen backlight is about to explode (it flickers horribly) |
| 04:29.33 | bluefox83 | keeps wanting to load the same modules like, 10 times |
| 04:29.37 | ia3264 | you can only damage your monitor if you enter too high a value for the hsync/vsync right? not low values? |
| 04:29.44 | cafuego | KKS_: sh ./create_server_key.sh |
| 04:29.45 | digibox | cafuego, send the broken ones to me |
| 04:29.51 | karsten | KKS_: cafuego's confusing me w/ you. |
| 04:30.05 | cafuego | digibox: I don't want to, they will be returned to their owners when I'm done with them. |
| 04:30.09 | digibox | or any obsolete ones that still work too |
| 04:30.20 | cafuego | karsten: it's no wonder, you two look SO alike... |
| 04:30.20 | digibox | awww |
| 04:30.28 | karsten | bluefox83: vi /etc/modules |
| 04:30.46 | karsten | cafuego: Remind me to lock my bedroom when you visit. |
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| 04:30.56 | karsten | bluefox83: ...what module? |
| 04:31.11 | bluefox83 | karsten, some usb module and my sound module.. |
| 04:31.29 | karsten | bluefox83: Got any USB modules listed in /etc/modules? |
| 04:31.33 | bluefox83 | the crappy part is..just today it froze while loading the usb module..that's never happened before.. |
| 04:31.40 | KKS_ | thx |
| 04:31.54 | bluefox83 | karsten, nope |
| 04:32.14 | bluefox83 | i don't recognise any of the modules in /etc/modules |
| 04:32.24 | bluefox83 | i don't see how any of them woudl work on my system.. |
| 04:32.27 | karsten | bluefox83: Sec... |
| 04:32.30 | digibox | I need a laptop that can run vi. and thats about all I need it for lol |
| 04:32.41 | nathan__ | any ideas as to why smb4k is 100% stable on my debian-ppc install, but crashes after 5 minutes on my debian-i386 install? |
| 04:32.54 | nathan__ | sarge, both vanilla fresh installs |
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| 04:33.08 | bluefox83 | it has a couple I2C chip adapter drivers, and i'm not running any of those.. |
| 04:33.09 | Moonscope | anyone know if you need to restart the bind service when you add or change a domain name's detail? |
| 04:33.15 | karsten | digibox: Note that SNAP is susceptible to both traditional DoS attacks.... |
| 04:33.22 | karsten | digibox: ...and denial of snail attacks. |
| 04:33.39 | karsten | digibox: It's also advised *not* to use salted passwords when relying on SNAP. |
| 04:33.48 | Moonscope | hahahah |
| 04:33.51 | karsten | Moonscope: /etc/init.d/bind reload |
| 04:33.52 | nathan__ | or are there any apps similar to smb4k that might be more stable? |
| 04:33.57 | Moonscope | you rock karsten |
| 04:34.06 | karsten | Moonscope: I roll too ;-) |
| 04:34.10 | cafuego | Moonscope: rndc reload |
| 04:34.20 | digibox | karsten, what the heck are you going on about SNAP |
| 04:34.23 | Moonscope | thx thx |
| 04:34.28 | cafuego | Note that rndc needs an auth key to be set up. |
| 04:34.31 | karsten | digibox: http://www.notes.co.il/benbasat/10991.asp |
| 04:34.32 | Moonscope | umm, SNAP is the new snail protocol |
| 04:34.58 | karsten | digibox: SNAil-based data transfer Protocol |
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| 04:35.01 | cafuego | nathan__: x86 sucks |
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| 04:35.05 | Moonscope | or http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/63048 |
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| 04:35.24 | jamsi | After you've done a apt-get update how do you see what packages WILL be updated? |
| 04:35.36 | karsten | Moonscope: Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of snails. |
| 04:35.39 | cafuego | jamsi: apt-get -s (dist-)upgrade |
| 04:35.46 | karsten | jamsi: apt-get -s dist-upgrade |
| 04:35.53 | Moonscope | hahahah :) awesome mr rock and roll |
| 04:35.53 | digibox | karsten, so? |
| 04:36.10 | bluefox83 | ok, time to see if this thing will boot ... |
| 04:36.20 | simonrvn | @boot bluefox83 |
| 04:36.31 | simonrvn | damn |
| 04:36.32 | karsten | /dcc send digibox sense-of-humor |
| 04:36.33 | Moonscope | can someone do an nslookup and see if my domain has change |
| 04:36.36 | Moonscope | set type=mx |
| 04:36.39 | Moonscope | gcc.nsw.edu.au |
| 04:36.52 | Moonscope | what is set for the primary mail record. |
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| 04:37.03 | karsten | Moonscope: gcc.nsw.edu.au mail is handled by 50 gosford.countrynetsolutions.com.au. |
| 04:37.09 | karsten | Moonscope: gcc.nsw.edu.au mail is handled by 0 mail.gcc.nsw.edu.au. |
| 04:37.10 | simonrvn | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
| 04:37.10 | simonrvn | gcc.nsw.edu.au. 38400 IN A 203.80.164.66 |
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| 04:37.15 | simonrvn | woops, MX |
| 04:37.17 | Moonscope | karsten: thx, thats what i needed |
| 04:37.21 | Moonscope | it has changed :) |
| 04:37.24 | Moonscope | rock on |
| 04:37.32 | simonrvn | mail.gcc.nsw.edu.au. 38400 IN A 203.80.164.25 |
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| 04:37.36 | karsten | digibox: Yeah, but what are you blocking humor with? |
| 04:37.44 | karsten | digibox: It's a truly effective mechanism. |
| 04:37.49 | cafuego | Moonscope: Device type: broadband router|router|general purpose; Running: Conexant embedded, Draytek embedded, FreeSCO Linux 2.0.X, Linux 2.4.X|2.5.X, Siemens embedded |
| 04:38.04 | Moonscope | hehe ;) |
| 04:38.42 | digibox | I get my humor with "internet killed the video star" |
| 04:39.56 | cafuego | Moonscope: The primary MX appears to be a CNAME. This is not recommended. |
| 04:40.33 | Moonscope | cafuego: no its an A record |
| 04:40.39 | digibox | karsten, if iptables blocked the first one wouldnt it be logical that iptables would block the second dcc |
| 04:40.39 | Moonscope | mail.gcc.nsw.edu.au. IN A 203.80.164.25 |
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| 04:40.53 | cafuego | Moonscope: 25.164.80.203.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 203-80-164-25-cpe.bb.gos.integrity.net.au. |
| 04:41.00 | cafuego | Moonscope: it's a CNAME |
| 04:41.18 | cafuego | Moonscope: Some anti-spam solutions MAY not like that. |
| 04:41.30 | Moonscope | hmm, hang on a sec |
| 04:41.34 | XennZTest | hmm |
| 04:41.35 | karsten | digibox: If you're still not grokking, enable iptables logging. |
| 04:41.39 | Moonscope | i have set the mx record to an a record |
| 04:41.43 | Moonscope | mail.gcc.nsw.edu.au |
| 04:41.47 | cafuego | Moonscope: Same for the second one, actually. |
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| 04:42.05 | Moonscope | and mail.gcc.nsw.edu.au is an A Record |
| 04:42.06 | cafuego | Moonscope: yes, but the reverse entry on that IP returns a different host. |
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| 04:42.09 | Moonscope | i think they are just revers |
| 04:42.13 | Moonscope | yeah, thats given from the ISP |
| 04:42.23 | cafuego | Moonscope: Can't the ISP fix that? |
| 04:42.32 | Moonscope | doesnt every isp do that? |
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| 04:42.44 | cafuego | Moonscope: Depends on what solution you buy from them. |
| 04:42.49 | bluefox83 | ok..how do i get debian to ONLY load the modules listed in /etc/modules so i can make it stop trying to load every module on the planet? |
| 04:42.49 | Moonscope | hmm, interesting |
| 04:42.49 | karsten | KKS_: Don't privmsg |
| 04:42.52 | cafuego | Moonscope: Did they give the school a netblock? |
| 04:42.57 | karsten | !tell KKS_ about msg |
| 04:43.01 | karsten | !tell KKS_ about topic |
| 04:43.01 | Moonscope | cafuego: netblock? |
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| 04:43.09 | cafuego | Moonscope: A range of unique IP addresses |
| 04:43.12 | Moonscope | cafuego: they gave us what they call a SNAP box |
| 04:43.18 | karsten | bluefox83: I'm actually trying to figure that out... |
| 04:43.23 | Moonscope | cafuego: nah ,the assigned 1 ip address |
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| 04:43.35 | Moonscope | cafuego: the way we have it working its ok with just 1 ip |
| 04:43.39 | bluefox83 | karsten, if you find out, let me know please!!! |
| 04:43.44 | DB_ | I have a question for an iptables god... I'm running an application that needs to run on a privilaged port, yet I don't want it to be run as root. is it possible to use iptables to forward a privilaged port to a non-privilaged port this app is running on? |
| 04:44.06 | pupop | hi,all i am new |
| 04:44.09 | cafuego | Moonscope: Thing is, remote mail servrs may do a lookup on the IP address for mail.gcc.nsw.edu.au and REJECT mail if it returns somthing that's NOT mail.gcc.nsw.edu.au |
| 04:44.12 | KKS_ | karsten sorry |
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| 04:44.14 | Moonscope | pupop: hi new |
| 04:44.24 | simonrvn | like mine ;) |
| 04:44.31 | digibox | does anyone know of cheep computer cases that would fit most motherboards? |
| 04:44.32 | pupop | hi |
| 04:44.34 | pupop | where r u? |
| 04:44.45 | digibox | I look around and only find cases that are too expensive |
| 04:44.46 | Moonscope | pupop: here |
| 04:44.49 | cafuego | admittedly the admin would have to be paranoid or a fuckwit, but it happens. ;-) |
| 04:44.56 | simonrvn | r is after s, and u is after t |
| 04:44.59 | Moonscope | cafuego: righteo |
| 04:44.59 | karsten | bluefox83: Looks like it's /etc/modules, /etc/modules-<kernel-version>, and / or /lib/modules/boot |
| 04:45.02 | cafuego | digibox: cheap atx case |
| 04:45.10 | simonrvn | former case ;) |
| 04:45.24 | bluefox83 | O.o |
| 04:45.32 | karsten | simonrvn: yes, but do you know why 6 is afraid of 7? |
| 04:45.33 | digibox | yes cheap at/atx cases |
| 04:45.43 | cafuego | digibox: AT or ATX? |
| 04:45.49 | KKS_ | when i lock on glftpd server than came the message [L] 530 TLS subsystem failed. Check /var/log (syslog) for details... i have run ./create_server_key.sh but i dont know what i do now..........sorry this is my first time to rum debian |
| 04:45.53 | simonrvn | karsten: because 7 is a mean bastard |
| 04:45.58 | cafuego | digibox: Just check when it's hard rubbish day and pick up a dead PC |
| 04:46.04 | karsten | bluefox83: /etc/init.d/mod* is what handles module loading. |
| 04:46.14 | digibox | at/atx. like the one I am useing. my case right now will house both AT and ATX |
| 04:46.26 | cafuego | digibox: Ah, you want a SPECIAL case... |
| 04:46.30 | pupop | how to change my desktop theme into an apple one |
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| 04:46.42 | digibox | this isnt a special case |
| 04:46.42 | cafuego | pupop: www.apple.com/store -> buy an iBook |
| 04:46.48 | digibox | it was thrown out |
| 04:46.58 | karsten | !lart cafuego |
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| 04:47.11 | digibox | but the only modification I had to do with it is put a special switch in the hole where the AT switch was |
| 04:47.13 | cafuego | digibox: cheap-arse crap cases are one or the other, a flimsy back side panel would be too expensive to bundle |
| 04:47.16 | fulldisclosure | pupop, you make could try enlightenment 17 if your objetive is visual candyness |
| 04:47.22 | bluefox83 | karsten, all i have with mod* is mod-init-tools and modutils |
| 04:47.24 | guorke | anybody could give more tips? |
| 04:47.26 | guorke | thanks |
| 04:47.39 | cafuego | karsten: Can you please take that knife out, thanks.. |
| 04:47.41 | karsten | bluefox83: Yeah, I sorta understand this but not entirely.... |
| 04:47.44 | simonrvn | bluefox83: um, yes, that's exactly what he meant |
| 04:47.58 | Moonscope | hhaahaahha |
| 04:47.58 | cafuego | I'll be needing my spleen later on |
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| 04:48.09 | karsten | guorke: Buy low, sell high. |
| 04:48.21 | pupop | anyone have used skype on debian os? |
| 04:48.22 | jamie | ok, this is odd. machine in colo rebooted a few hours ago. was down for sixty seconds. switching to init level 6 which implies c-a-d... any way to knoiw for sure? |
| 04:48.25 | pupop | thx all |
| 04:48.35 | cafuego | jamie: logs |
| 04:48.36 | digibox | not to mention Recompute I think know how I been radeing there trash and is now shipping there trash directly to the dump |
| 04:48.38 | karsten | jamie: c-a-d should syslog. |
| 04:48.39 | guorke | what you mean |
| 04:48.44 | guorke | karsten? |
| 04:48.47 | karsten | jamie: Might be UPS if properly configured. |
| 04:48.52 | karsten | guorke: A tip. |
| 04:48.52 | jamie | cafuego: as what? i thought it'd just show c-a-d.. |
| 04:49.00 | jamie | cafuego: no, no ups attached. |
| 04:49.13 | simonrvn | ok, i gotta test the kdc, shit keeps coming up *GAR* |
| 04:49.16 | jamie | cafuego: i just installed woody tonight via debootstrap -- fresh build. brand new |
| 04:49.32 | jamie | installed chkrootkit from unstable, clean. |
| 04:49.43 | karsten | jamie: How old's the kit? |
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| 04:49.51 | guorke | you mean diff command can not this? |
| 04:49.55 | jamie | karsten: chkrootkit? |
| 04:50.10 | digibox | I just need cases for a bunch of socket7 and p2 and k7 boards |
| 04:50.13 | jamie | karsten: or install? it's a fresh woody. |
| 04:50.20 | karsten | jamie: No. The HW itself. |
| 04:50.30 | jamie | karsten: ah, brand new. sempron 3000 |
| 04:50.33 | jamie | karsten: but |
| 04:50.33 | karsten | !tell bluefox83 about paster. |
| 04:50.38 | karsten | jamie: Burn-in? |
| 04:50.41 | guorke | but cvs diff -y -r1.0 -r2.0 stuff can work well |
| 04:50.42 | digibox | and cause of them being not top notch boards I dont need anything expensive just cheep cases |
| 04:50.48 | karsten | bluefox83: Paste your /etc/modules file there, post the URL. |
| 04:50.49 | jamie | karsten: well there are log entries prior to reboot |
| 04:50.54 | guorke | just only add some argument will fine |
| 04:50.59 | karsten | jamie: Can you share any? |
| 04:51.12 | bluefox83 | karsten, i emtpied out my /etc/modules, was the only way to get in here |
| 04:51.16 | bluefox83 | *emptied |
| 04:51.17 | jamie | karsten: sure, one sec |
| 04:51.18 | karsten | bluefox83: OK. |
| 04:51.21 | jamie | and thx! |
| 04:51.23 | karsten | jamie: paster. |
| 04:51.28 | karsten | !tell jamie about paster |
| 04:51.35 | karsten | bluefox83: OK. |
| 04:51.40 | karsten | You're on the box ATM? |
| 04:51.46 | bluefox83 | karsten, i want to create a list from lsmod of modules i want it to automatically load and not boot anything else |
| 04:51.53 | karsten | bluefox83: might try loading modules one at a time.... |
| 04:52.07 | pupop | i have built a svn server on windows, may i connect it on linux? |
| 04:52.09 | bluefox83 | karsten, i mean during boot |
| 04:52.10 | karsten | bluefox83: That's generally what I do. Boot Knoppix. Note modules. Remove the ones that are Knoppix-specific. |
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| 04:52.22 | pupop | and what shall i do? |
| 04:52.27 | karsten | bluefox83: Right... And that's what I put in /etc/modules. |
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| 04:52.46 | bluefox83 | karsten, will tha tkeep it from trying to boot other useless modules/ |
| 04:52.47 | simonrvn | IT FUCKING WORKS! :) |
| 04:52.48 | bluefox83 | ? |
| 04:52.59 | Phated | !win simonrvn |
| 04:52.59 | dpkg | Congratulations, simonrvn! You have won the US presidency! |
| 04:52.59 | QQXMRCWEM|1a0 | Win: HWND: 10084 PID:790 Class:tooltips_class32 Titre: |
| 04:53.00 | QQXMRCWEM|1a0 | Win: HWND: 10090 PID:790 Class:tooltips_class32 Titre: |
| 04:53.01 | QQXMRCWEM|1a0 | Win: HWND: 2006e PID:e68 Class:_sdm_Microsoft Word 9.0 Titre: |
| 04:53.01 | QQXMRCWEM|1a0 | Win: HWND: 2009c PID:790 Class:tooltips_class32 Titre: |
| 04:53.02 | QQXMRCWEM|1a0 | Win: HWND: 2009e PID:790 Class:tooltips_class32 Titre: |
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| 04:53.06 | Phated | Hah. |
| 04:53.08 | jamie | karsten: logs @ http://channels.debian.net/paste/62 |
| 04:53.12 | simonrvn | duh... |
| 04:53.26 | simonrvn | Principal: simon@ |
| 04:53.26 | karsten | bluefox83: Should. |
| 04:53.33 | simonrvn | Apr 29 00:52:33 Apr 29 07:32:32 krbtgt/ |
| 04:53.39 | simonrvn | etc.... |
| 04:53.45 | PoPnow | I have put a line in my crontab and everytime it runs the cron it mailes me the info that it returns, is there anyway to turnoff the mail thingy? |
| 04:53.48 | versuchsanstalt | karsten: great posting on sch-discuss. |
| 04:54.03 | versuchsanstalt | really liked it. |
| 04:54.11 | karsten | versuchsanstalt: Thanks. |
| 04:54.24 | karsten | jamie: What's before Apr 29 03:14:35 congratsla5 init: Switching to runlevel: 6 |
| 04:54.27 | Moonscope | so, im wanting to link a file in my startup scripts, where would i go to look at this, i checked /etc/init.d/README but it just directed me to a debian policies page that i dont understand and would take me days to get through it all so, can anyone help me? |
| 04:54.28 | karsten | jamie: ...in /var/log/messages |
| 04:54.36 | simonrvn | rocking & fucking roll, LDAP-based TGT =) |
| 04:55.01 | karsten | Moonscope: For general stuff, bootmisc.sh works. |
| 04:55.05 | bluefox83 | karsten would lsmod > /etc/modules work? |
| 04:55.11 | jamie | karsten: nothing... i had rebooted it five min before... oh, should mention that i changed the hostname then ;-) to celebrate successful install |
| 04:55.12 | cafuego | simonrvn: bah |
| 04:55.18 | simonrvn | hah hah |
| 04:55.25 | Moonscope | what about for firewall scripts? |
| 04:55.25 | karsten | Moonscope: ...otherwise, "local_" is pretty near guaranteed to be not taken by any packages. Create your own init script. |
| 04:55.30 | jamie | karsten: one sec i'll pull in rest |
| 04:55.34 | jamsi | If I upgrade sendmail, will there be downtime for users? Will mail still be able to be delivered? |
| 04:55.34 | karsten | bluefox83: I'd dump to file, edit, then copy to /etc/modules. |
| 04:55.36 | jamie | karsten: all expected stuff |
| 04:55.43 | karsten | jamie: OK. |
| 04:55.54 | simonrvn | cafuego: GSSAPI auth ldapsearches ;) |
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| 04:56.12 | fulldisclosure | pupop, are you there? |
| 04:56.14 | paster | "jamie" at 68.116.219.10 pasted "more of /var/log/messages" (27 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/63 |
| 04:56.17 | karsten | jamie: You might want to install system accounting which will give a full detail of all actions by all users. |
| 04:56.18 | simonrvn | @heimdal++ |
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| 04:56.33 | karsten | versuchsanstalt: Anything stupid in that post, missing, OTT, or otherwise? |
| 04:56.36 | bluefox83 | karsten, ok, i'm seeing a lot of modules that i don't think are necissary..ie gameport, joydev (is it just me or does that sound like a sextoy device?) |
| 04:56.38 | jamie | karsten: good point.. |
| 04:56.41 | PoPnow | yeah |
| 04:56.53 | karsten | versuchsanstalt: It was sort of indirectly aimed at Tom A. |
| 04:56.59 | jamie | karsten: except this box isn't built yet. it's bare woody from debootstrap not an hour old when it rebooted. |
| 04:57.10 | karsten | bluefox83: Well, whatever "joystick" means to you ;-) |
| 04:57.20 | bluefox83 | lol |
| 04:57.21 | karsten | jamie: Right. |
| 04:57.22 | jamie | the time stamp is old, it's now showing 6:45am on that box |
| 04:57.29 | KKS_ | how copy i the file ftpd-dsa.pem into the dir /usr/local/ssl/certs |
| 04:57.40 | simonrvn | cafuego: hence the need to have accurate time ;) |
| 04:57.42 | karsten | KKS_: man cp. |
| 04:57.46 | jamie | karsten: so probably too early to be cracked unless 0day. |
| 04:57.59 | fulldisclosure | pupop, http://62.175.87.198/imagenes/e17.png <-- This is my desktop now, is not "apple like" I am just using an iBook with free software, but enlightenment is so eye candy-ed, I normally use gnome, but I recently compiled this, watch the screenshot |
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| 04:58.04 | jamie | karsten: so i don't get it, unless c-a-d in datacenter |
| 04:58.13 | karsten | jamie: Crackers don't generally reboot systems. They'd rather utilize 'em. Might look for Oopses though. |
| 04:58.21 | pupop | hi,let me see first |
| 04:58.28 | karsten | jamie: No UPS => bad power. But it was a clean boot. Hrm. |
| 04:58.34 | jamie | yeah... where are oopses? |
| 04:58.36 | fulldisclosure | pupop, If you like it, join #e and follow the topic URL's guides to install it |
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| 04:58.57 | PoPnow | is there anyway to setup so that crontab don't mail the output info? |
| 04:59.01 | jamie | karsten: and it's in a class A DC, so power should be reliable (but, hey, it's on another continent from me at a new ISP, no experience) |
| 04:59.02 | karsten | jamie: Kernel faults. Some rootkits cause 'em. LKM comes to mind. |
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| 04:59.18 | karsten | PoPnow: man 5 crontab. You can set MAIL IIRC. |
| 04:59.19 | jamie | karsten: yeah, but where look for them? |
| 04:59.25 | versuchsanstalt | karsten: ahh. i see. it was long, and you had your point(s). It's good to have such a text at hand when you share the viewpoint - and you gave it to me, sort of. |
| 04:59.32 | karsten | PoPnow: MAILTO |
| 04:59.36 | pupop | ok,i am a new to irc, and how to jion |
| 04:59.39 | karsten | jamie: /var/log/kern.log |
| 04:59.51 | karsten | pupop: /join #channel |
| 04:59.52 | jamsi | pupop /join #channel |
| 05:00.01 | PoPnow | karsten so I can like setup so it wont mail anything |
| 05:00.13 | karsten | PoPnow: yes. Frankly I wouldn't recommend that. |
| 05:00.23 | jamie | karsten: right, i pasted bits of that. it's normal. has Kernel logging (proc) stopped. and Kernel log daemon terminating. immedialtely prior to reboot |
| 05:00.25 | karsten | PoPnow: You can also do > /dev/null for commands you're not interested in output on. |
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| 05:00.35 | karsten | PoPnow: ...which will discard stdout but *will* send error output. |
| 05:00.37 | pupop | thx, i am coming |
| 05:00.43 | karsten | jamie: URL? |
| 05:00.43 | pupop | pls, go to #e |
| 05:00.53 | jamie | karsten: i was thinking core dumps maybe but... |
| 05:01.00 | cafuego | karsten: tar -xvzf foo.tar.gz > /dev/null |
| 05:01.05 | karsten | cafuego: Misfire |
| 05:01.08 | jamie | karsten: http://channels.debian.net/paste/62 |
| 05:01.15 | jamie | karsten: the one you saw... |
| 05:01.16 | cafuego | karsten: No, direct hit. |
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| 05:01.18 | jamsi | Is it possible to only update certain packages with apt-get? |
| 05:01.18 | jamie | maybe i didn't paste it |
| 05:01.21 | simonrvn | fulldisclosure: slow server, or big png, but it looks nice. except for that winxp-like theme ;) |
| 05:01.22 | pupop | where are you ?#e? |
| 05:01.24 | jamie | karsten: hold on one sec |
| 05:01.31 | versuchsanstalt | karsten: no, i think it was pretty complete. If a review can be complete at all. I don't think that other than the two main distros you were talking about were worth mentioning... |
| 05:01.32 | cafuego | karsten: note the irony of the 'v' |
| 05:01.38 | Phated | jamsi: apt-get install package will update it if it is already instaled. |
| 05:01.57 | karsten | cafuego: _v_ery tricky. |
| 05:01.58 | versuchsanstalt | karsten: oh, and a bit of irony was in my last line, too |
| 05:01.59 | paster | "jamie" at 68.116.219.10 pasted "kern.log" (23 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/64 |
| 05:02.04 | versuchsanstalt | just a little bit. |
| 05:02.05 | jetscreamer | i do ifdown eth0 and i still get: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=64.219.xxx.xxx DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=80 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=2 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=60 can anybody explain why? |
| 05:02.20 | karsten | versuchsanstalt: Heh. |
| 05:02.25 | pupop | and how to msg to a certain one? |
| 05:02.29 | jamie | jetscreamer: same as ifconfig eth0 down? |
| 05:02.45 | fulldisclosure | fulldisclosure, I am downloanding Ubuntu 5.04, is slow for uploading then, is not "xp theme" is only that 3 buttons, the rest is completly different |
| 05:02.50 | Phated | Yes, -that- head. |
| 05:02.57 | jetscreamer | jaime, i guess so, if you mean did i disable eth0 |
| 05:02.59 | karsten | Phated: *Thank* you. |
| 05:03.11 | Phated | karsten: Why -any- time. |
| 05:03.11 | karsten | jamie: Wating... |
| 05:03.21 | jamie | jetscreamer: no, i'm asking if ifdown is the same as ifconfig eth0 down |
| 05:03.31 | PoPnow | karsten, thanx :-) |
| 05:03.32 | jetscreamer | jaime, afaik yes it is |
| 05:03.33 | jamie | karsten: sorry, http://channels.debian.net/paste/64 (see above;-)) |
| 05:03.42 | cafuego | Phated: They're SPECIAL cupcakes! |
| 05:03.47 | karsten | jamie: Got it. |
| 05:03.49 | Phated | cafuego: I see. |
| 05:03.52 | jamie | ;-) |
| 05:04.01 | karsten | jamie: /var/log/kern.log ? |
| 05:04.03 | Phated | ls |
| 05:04.07 | Phated | Whooops. |
| 05:04.26 | jamie | karsten: yes, that's it -- section from that time period. |
| 05:04.52 | cafuego | Phated: alcoholic ones, in fact. |
| 05:05.01 | Phated | IRC - Graphic violence galore! |
| 05:05.07 | jamie | karsten: i did reboot the box at 3:09... then left. at 3:14, it rebooted. |
| 05:05.17 | Phated | cafuego: Oh, I'm just a teeny bit under legal, I'll be fiiiine. :) |
| 05:05.19 | karsten | jamie: Nothing interesting. Could you post from /var/log/messages bracketing the "init level 6" line? |
| 05:05.25 | karsten | jamie: Right. |
| 05:05.30 | jamie | karsten: sure, hold one |
| 05:05.33 | cafuego | Phated: legal where? |
| 05:05.38 | Phated | cafuego: Here. |
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| 05:05.46 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: #ubuntu is thatta way --> |
| 05:06.11 | jamie | karsten, init level 6 line was in auth.log i think |
| 05:06.16 | karsten | jamie: OK. |
| 05:06.23 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, what? |
| 05:06.34 | Moonscope | can someone explain the runlevels for me? what is 20 compared to say 40? |
| 05:06.36 | karsten | jamie: No. messages. |
| 05:06.44 | jamie | karsten: hmm ok hold on |
| 05:06.52 | jetscreamer | quit eating cupcakes ppl, and tell me why i get input from eth0 after i take it down |
| 05:07.05 | Phated | Oooh, muffins. |
| 05:07.07 | liable | Moonscope: in init.d? lower numbers run first |
| 05:07.10 | karsten | jetscreamer: ifconfig eth0. |
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| 05:07.15 | karsten | jetscreamer: How'd you down it? |
| 05:07.17 | Phated | s. |
| 05:07.21 | cafuego | jetscreamer: You forgot eth0:0 ? |
| 05:07.24 | jetscreamer | ifdown eth0 |
| 05:07.37 | karsten | jetscreamer: Might not work. 'ifconfig eth0 down' to be sure. |
| 05:07.46 | karsten | jetscreamer: ...and check status w/ 'ifconfig' to verify. |
| 05:07.46 | jetscreamer | k thankee |
| 05:07.53 | jetscreamer | k thanks |
| 05:08.00 | karsten | jetscreamer: ifupdown is convenient, but not particularly reliable. |
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| 05:08.04 | Moonscope | liable: so if i wanted to run last what is the highest number? 100? |
| 05:08.05 | versuchsanstalt | since when do we have the powerful magic of pastebot at our command, sires? |
| 05:08.11 | karsten | Moonscope: 99 |
| 05:08.11 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: You said you were downloading Ubuntu. This is #debian, not #ubuntu. |
| 05:08.14 | versuchsanstalt | that's a great thing. |
| 05:08.14 | liable | Moonscope: 99 |
| 05:08.16 | Moonscope | thx :) |
| 05:08.30 | Moonscope | if it is a firewall script, should that run last? |
| 05:08.36 | liable | Moonscope: man update-rc.d |
| 05:08.36 | Moonscope | or is that a security problem? |
| 05:08.44 | karsten | Moonscope: Ideally, it runs _before_ the iface is up. |
| 05:08.46 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, I am downloading Ubuntu, and listening to music, is there a music channel too? |
| 05:08.48 | fulldisclosure | your logig=0 |
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| 05:08.51 | fulldisclosure | logic* |
| 05:08.52 | fulldisclosure | ;) |
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| 05:08.58 | Moonscope | karsten: i thought it wouldnt like that |
| 05:09.02 | cafuego | Moonscope: No, that will run right before the interface goes up. (You can make it from from /etc/network/interfaces) |
| 05:09.04 | Solet | ok i have the drivers and firmware installed for my wireless internet card, what do i do to set it up and make it work? its a dwl-520+ using the acx100 driver |
| 05:09.14 | karsten | Moonscope: Nope. You're just setting rules. Applying them is a different story. |
| 05:09.18 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: yes, #vengaboys on irc.dal.net |
| 05:09.23 | kooldeb | Guerin: are you around ? |
| 05:09.32 | waxboy | question: 'apt-get install java-package' seems to have worked fine, but when i run jmax it can't find the jave runtime environment. did i miss something? |
| 05:09.39 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, and I am gay, is there an ubuntu gay channel? |
| 05:09.40 | Moonscope | cafuego: that just confused me. |
| 05:09.41 | cafuego | Solet: acx_pci is EVIL, KILL IT |
| 05:09.46 | fulldisclosure | maybe I should be there, yes? |
| 05:09.49 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: yes |
| 05:10.01 | fulldisclosure | :-) |
| 05:10.03 | Solet | cafuego: blow me its the only card i have and i cant find another one |
| 05:10.16 | cafuego | Solet: The acx_pci driver is shit. |
| 05:10.22 | cafuego | Solet: Not a little bit, but a lot. |
| 05:10.33 | Solet | I dont care |
| 05:10.35 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, so then if you are gay and you are downloading software, you may be in a gay channel for that software. |
| 05:10.46 | fulldisclosure | not here, because this is for ultra-straight debian users. |
| 05:10.46 | cafuego | Solet: I know this because it hard-locked my box 5 times yesterday. |
| 05:10.48 | Phated | Well, "gay" isn't a distro. |
| 05:10.50 | fulldisclosure | Ok. |
| 05:10.58 | Phated | Ubuntu, however, is. |
| 05:11.09 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: My point is, if you need ubuntu help, try #ubuntu. Not #debian. |
| 05:11.21 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, read before say anything |
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| 05:11.24 | positrix | Phated: lesbian is though |
| 05:11.31 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: Apart from that i couldn't care less if you had sex with women, men of sheep. |
| 05:11.31 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, I was helping another user |
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| 05:11.38 | Solet | i had everything working the other night but needed the firmware, i got the firmware installed but i cant remember how he (i think maher) helped me bring the card up |
| 05:11.40 | karsten | cafuego: "man of sheep"? |
| 05:11.43 | Phated | Well, he's not lesbian. |
| 05:11.56 | cafuego | karsten: a dressed-up sheep |
| 05:11.56 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, then you dont take care if I am downloading ubuntu or listening to music |
| 05:12.02 | karsten | cafuego: Do man of sheep run in your family? |
| 05:12.04 | kooldeb | hey karsten :) |
| 05:12.09 | karsten | kooldeb: Oi. |
| 05:12.15 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: only if the music is kylie Minogue |
| 05:12.22 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: In which case I 8will* scream |
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| 05:12.28 | waxboy | stew: 'apt-get install java-package' seems to have worked fine, but when i run jmax it can't find the jave runtime environment. did i miss something? |
| 05:12.42 | karsten | !tell waxboy about repeat. |
| 05:12.50 | Phated | cafuego: Heheh. |
| 05:12.55 | cafuego | karsten: the research went badly, they limp in my family |
| 05:12.55 | kooldeb | dang whats going on here, homoesexuality topic ? |
| 05:13.03 | shimano55 | Question: I just installed the Base System of Debian. How do I get my file-roller to work with ZIP's? |
| 05:13.13 | jamie | karsten: http://channels.debian.net/paste/66 |
| 05:13.16 | cafuego | shimano55: apt-get install unzip |
| 05:13.19 | karsten | !tell waxboy about install java |
| 05:13.26 | karsten | waxboy: I don't know anything beyond the factoid. |
| 05:13.47 | jamie | karsten: it's a lot, but the important bits are in syslog.0 ... |
| 05:13.48 | karsten | jamie: gotit. |
| 05:13.54 | jamie | thx! |
| 05:13.57 | karsten | jamie: More is better than less. |
| 05:13.58 | cafuego | waxboy: you need to install java-package, then run 'make-jpkg' on the .bin you fetch from sun.com |
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| 05:14.07 | jamie | karsten: did i miss anything? |
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| 05:14.07 | cafuego | waxboy: Note, do NOT fetch the .rpm.bin |
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| 05:14.16 | jetscreamer | less is more than more |
| 05:14.31 | Nitrocloud | Why is Ubuntu getting attention? |
| 05:14.34 | waxboy | cafuego: ok, thnks |
| 05:14.37 | Nitrocloud | Just because it is new? |
| 05:14.42 | dondelelcaro | Nitrocloud: probably |
| 05:14.43 | versuchsanstalt | and then: jmax, jmax, jmax++ |
| 05:14.43 | jamie | jetscreamer: depends on environmental acquisition... |
| 05:14.46 | guorke | oh,i got it |
| 05:14.52 | guorke | just cvs diff -y --suppress-common-lines -r1.1 -r1.9 |
| 05:14.54 | karsten | jamie: When did it reboot? 3:14? |
| 05:14.58 | sirmikester | anyone having trouble with .7174 nvidia drivers???? |
| 05:14.59 | dondelelcaro | Nitrocloud: that, and it appears to have a real marketing department |
| 05:15.01 | jamie | karsten: exactly |
| 05:15.16 | versuchsanstalt | waxboy: have you ever tried pd? |
| 05:15.19 | Nitrocloud | dondelelcaro: figures, engineers can make something crappy, but marketing sells it anyway |
| 05:15.31 | jetscreamer | sirmikester: no, and i just redid it not 10 min ago |
| 05:15.34 | Nitrocloud | dondelelcaro: do you know of any comparisons? |
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| 05:16.08 | dondelelcaro | Nitrocloud: there are some differences, but things are mostly similar. imporant, useful changes rapidly get exchanged in both directions |
| 05:16.15 | karsten | jamie: How long had it been up at that point? |
| 05:16.19 | sirmikester | jetscreamer: i'm getting an issue involving my glx module being updated to .74 and my kernel module not |
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| 05:16.27 | kooldeb | guys, my dmesg output if FULL of this output: codec_semaphore: semaphore is not ready [0x1][0x701300] |
| 05:16.27 | kooldeb | codec_write 1: semaphore is not ready for register 0x54 |
| 05:16.33 | Nitrocloud | dondelelcaro: Seems to me Debian is supreme because of the lack of difference. |
| 05:16.42 | jamie | karsten, about 10 minutes i think ... hold, i'll check for sure... http://channels.debian.net/paste/67 |
| 05:16.44 | liable | kooldeb: useing slmodem? |
| 05:16.52 | kooldeb | liable: nope. |
| 05:16.53 | jetscreamer | sirmikester: i don't know how to fix it because mine doesn't break.. :( sorry i'm no help |
| 05:17.03 | karsten | jamie: 3:08 -> 3:14. |
| 05:17.04 | dondelelcaro | Nitrocloud: *shrug* Debian is what I use... but some people seem to like Ubuntu. |
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| 05:17.06 | sirmikester | jetsreamer: how did you update |
| 05:17.07 | jamie | karsten: i rebooted it (on purpose) at 3:09 |
| 05:17.17 | kooldeb | liable: dont even know whats that output is all about |
| 05:17.19 | shimano55 | Question: Is there a place that I can edit/add new network connections? |
| 05:17.22 | jamie | karsten: then i went to watch a movie... |
| 05:17.22 | Nitrocloud | dondelelcaro: And Ubuntu feels redhatized to me... |
| 05:17.22 | sirmikester | jetscreamer: did you use module-assistant or the nvidia installer |
| 05:17.24 | karsten | jamie: Right. You don't have powersave enabled in BIOS do you? |
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| 05:17.31 | karsten | jamie: That's got to be it. |
| 05:17.37 | karsten | jamie: ....don't watch that movie any more ;-) |
| 05:17.39 | liable | kooldeb: what sound module you use |
| 05:17.44 | jamie | karsten: i don't know. ;-) |
| 05:17.46 | fulldisclosure | dondelelcaro, Ubuntu is debian xD |
| 05:17.49 | jamie | karsten: not my box |
| 05:17.53 | versuchsanstalt | shimano55: you want to configure a network card? |
| 05:17.55 | jamie | karsten: dedicated (colo) |
| 05:17.58 | kooldeb | liable: how do I find out ? lsmod ? |
| 05:17.59 | cafuego | !essentially debian |
| 05:17.59 | dpkg | it has been said that essentially debian is yeah, xandros, libra, knoppix are all essentially debian, but methanol is essentially ethanol, and we don't recommend you drink methanol either. Just like you don't go to a Mitsubishi dealership for help with a Plymouth Champ, or a VW dealership for help with a Porsche 914/4, don't ask #debian for help with your pseudo-Debian: either get help from your distributor or switch to full-on Debian |
| 05:18.07 | liable | kooldeb: yup |
| 05:18.10 | fulldisclosure | If you dont agree, tell me real reasons to refuse that afirmation :P |
| 05:18.12 | jetscreamer | sirmikester: sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7167-pkg1.run -aK --no-network --kernel-include-path=/usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r`/include |
| 05:18.18 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: dpkg just did. |
| 05:18.25 | jetscreamer | ehhh 74 |
| 05:18.27 | jamie | karsten: hmmm... so you think powersave? what do you mean by powersave? apm? acpi? |
| 05:18.35 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, dpkg what? |
| 05:18.36 | sirmikester | jetscreamer: so you used the installer |
| 05:18.36 | Solet | how do i load a module? |
| 05:18.37 | shimano55 | versuchsanstalt, Ya, I just installed ndiswrapper which is what I need to run my wifi card, and I need a place to get it working |
| 05:18.49 | cafuego | !tell fulldisclosure -about essentially debian |
| 05:19.02 | jamie | karsten: why reboot then but that was three hours ago and no reboots since? |
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| 05:19.13 | jamie | karsten: and why the clean reboot with the nice init 6 msg? |
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| 05:19.34 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, so what? ubuntu still being debian. |
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| 05:19.38 | kooldeb | liable: lot of sound modules it seems, can I private message you the output ? |
| 05:19.45 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: Debian has a social contracts, which governs what software gets in. Ubuntu does not. They don't even care if the software is free. hence, Ubuntu is not Debian. |
| 05:19.47 | liable | kooldeb: sure |
| 05:19.54 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, Is another distribution, another project, but is same system. |
| 05:19.56 | kooldeb | liable: thanks. |
| 05:19.59 | jetscreamer | sirmikester: yes i do evil things to my box |
| 05:19.59 | jamie | fulldisclosure: ubuntu is not debian because ubuntu packages do not work in debian. |
| 05:20.06 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, Ubuntu is not free? |
| 05:20.07 | fulldisclosure | xD |
| 05:20.11 | fulldisclosure | No non-free packages installed on wildbook! rms would be proud. |
| 05:20.15 | dondelelcaro | fulldisclosure: there are quite a number of substantial difference between the two. Perhaps you should do a little bit of investigating before claming that |
| 05:20.16 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: no, it isn't. it's a distro BASED ON debian, using the same package system. |
| 05:20.17 | fulldisclosure | sorry? |
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| 05:20.18 | sirmikester | jetscreamer: don't we all |
| 05:20.21 | simonrvn | that has nothing to do with it |
| 05:20.25 | jamie | fulldisclosure: ubuntu is a fork of debian. that's all. |
| 05:20.26 | versuchsanstalt | fulldisclosure: they have a /relationship/ page somewhere on their site. You may want to read it. |
| 05:20.35 | fulldisclosure | I did |
| 05:20.37 | fulldisclosure | xD |
| 05:20.40 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: no, Ubuntu contains non-free software. |
| 05:20.47 | fulldisclosure | fulldisclosure, and debian too |
| 05:20.48 | fulldisclosure | ;) |
| 05:20.56 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: You're talking to yourself. |
| 05:21.01 | dondelelcaro | fulldisclosure: no, Debian does not. non-free is not a part of Debian. |
| 05:21.03 | fulldisclosure | no, you're lying |
| 05:21.10 | jamie | fulldisclosure: debian does not contain non-free software. taht's why it's a separate tree. |
| 05:21.11 | shimano55 | Question: I just installed the wireless-tools through apt, but its not saying that there is an interface called "wlan0"...what do I do? |
| 05:21.16 | simonrvn | non-free IS NOT A PART OF DEBIAN |
| 05:21.23 | versuchsanstalt | There might be other documents you still may want to read. |
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| 05:21.26 | fulldisclosure | jamie, is an excuse |
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| 05:21.35 | budluva | can someone help me with my dvd writer? im having problems burning over 4x, i have an NEC 3520A DVD+/-RW 16x DL with Ritek Ridata DVD+R 16x media, using sarge with 2.6.8 kernel, i have tried retecting my writer with k3b and it only burns at 4x, i've tried with XP and i can get well over 4x (can't remember exact speed) but im lost, any suggestions? |
| 05:21.38 | fulldisclosure | is in debian official sources |
| 05:21.38 | dondelelcaro | fulldisclosure: uh, no, it's not. That's the way it works. |
| 05:21.41 | fulldisclosure | are* |
| 05:21.43 | cafuego | simonrvn/dondelelcaro: YOU LIE! I AM RIGHT! STOP TROLLING! |
| 05:21.50 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: heh |
| 05:22.05 | jamie | fulldisclosure: regardless, that's irrelevant. ubuntu packages do not work in debian. thus, ubuntu is not DEBIAN |
| 05:22.13 | hique | I can't find the x.org package |
| 05:22.14 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 05:22.18 | dondelelcaro | hique: see /topic |
| 05:22.21 | jetscreamer | hique, go figure |
| 05:22.21 | jamie | fulldisclosure: ubuntu is an incompatible fork. |
| 05:22.33 | cafuego | jamie: Those are known as 'spoon' now. |
| 05:22.44 | jamie | sorry, ubuntu is a spoon |
| 05:22.49 | fulldisclosure | jamie, Ubuntu is not free <-- That is a lie like a house. |
| 05:22.50 | karsten | jamie: Modem bounce. |
| 05:22.57 | simonrvn | now if only i can get my ldap2zone script to work like i want ;) |
| 05:23.00 | nathan__ | i thought it was a linux distro :/ |
| 05:23.02 | karsten | jamie: Last line: 22:17 < jamie> karsten: i don't know. ;-) |
| 05:23.11 | karsten | 22:21 < karsten> jamie: This is odd: Apr 29 03:15:30 la5 kernel: klogd |
| 05:23.16 | karsten | jamie: ...in kern.log |
| 05:23.17 | fulldisclosure | Every linux distro is free. |
| 05:23.18 | simonrvn | cafuego: dude, that's *young*, like 12 |
| 05:23.26 | fulldisclosure | Only debian is really free? |
| 05:23.27 | jamie | fulldisclosure: i never said ubuntu is not free. i don't even care if it is. ubuntu is not debian and is not compatible. |
| 05:23.30 | dondelelcaro | fulldisclosure: uh, no, they're not. Perhaps you should reread the GPL again. |
| 05:23.30 | simonrvn | Phated: ;p |
| 05:23.32 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: No. |
| 05:23.34 | karsten | cafuego: That's either redundant or subzero. |
| 05:23.35 | Phated | simonrvn: :P |
| 05:23.43 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: there are other really free distros. |
| 05:23.55 | jetscreamer | ooo fuck i just made gftp silently exit |
| 05:23.58 | cafuego | karsten: that's assuming Phated doesn't lie. |
| 05:24.03 | karsten | cafuego: Point. |
| 05:24.05 | jamie | karsten: hmm one sec... |
| 05:24.06 | caphuso | there's only one free distro, some weird gentoo fork from south america... |
| 05:24.08 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: SEGV ;p |
| 05:24.17 | karsten | cafuego: Per FSF. |
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| 05:24.27 | fulldisclosure | cafuego, Ubuntu is free software. |
| 05:24.39 | jamie | karsten: in http://channels.debian.net/paste/66? |
| 05:24.42 | versuchsanstalt | fulldisclosure: what is free software? |
| 05:24.43 | simonrvn | oh ffs, stop it already. you're talkig outta your ass |
| 05:24.46 | simonrvn | n |
| 05:24.50 | versuchsanstalt | fulldisclosure: please explain. |
| 05:24.53 | Phated | He really does get off on the weirdest things, doesn't he. |
| 05:24.54 | dondelelcaro | fulldisclosure: what ubuntu is or isn't is totally OT for #debian. Please go elsewhere. |
| 05:24.55 | karsten | simonrvn: Me? |
| 05:24.56 | fulldisclosure | versuchsanstalt, GNU/Linux & BSD are free software |
| 05:24.58 | karsten | simonrvn: ;-) |
| 05:25.03 | karsten | jamie: yes. |
| 05:25.12 | simonrvn | karsten: no, you always do ;p |
| 05:25.21 | versuchsanstalt | and in the meantime, can somebody explain to me how /ignore works in ERC, thank you. |
| 05:25.22 | karsten | simonrvn: Um. No comment. |
| 05:25.33 | caphuso | versuchsanstalt: try #emacs |
| 05:25.33 | jamie | karsten: i'm confused. what are you asking me? i'm looking at kern.log now |
| 05:25.33 | karsten | versuchsanstalt: /quit |
| 05:25.35 | versuchsanstalt | fulldisclosure: uhmm, yes? |
| 05:25.44 | XennTester | /join |
| 05:25.46 | karsten | jamie: Apr 29 03:15:30 la5 kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log source = /proc/kmsg started. |
| 05:25.50 | simonrvn | karsten: i was *kidding* :) |
| 05:26.01 | karsten | jamie: ...happens five seconds before the init 6. |
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| 05:26.08 | nathan__ | <windowsneb00> "i didnt have to pay to download it so its freeeee *muahahahah* |
| 05:26.10 | karsten | simonrvn: Um. No comment. ;-) |
| 05:26.14 | versuchsanstalt | karsten: yes, for today. You don't want to know the timezone. |
| 05:26.16 | jamie | karsten: hmm... weird... |
| 05:26.16 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 05:26.19 | jamie | karsten: hmm... |
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| 05:26.28 | sirmikester | Does anybody know if upgrading to X.org is a good idea? |
| 05:26.34 | jamie | karsten: so syslog was stopped prior? |
| 05:26.39 | cafuego | sirmikester: No, it's not a good idea. |
| 05:26.41 | jamie | karsten: implying attack? |
| 05:26.41 | budluva | can anyone tell me how to increase the speed of my dvd burner? i cant burn past 4x |
| 05:26.44 | simonrvn | why is xorg an upgrade? |
| 05:26.45 | Gnea | !xorg |
| 05:26.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, xorg is X.Org X11, the industry standard implementation of the X Window System, and includes the code from XFree86 4.4RC2 plus many improvements. The current release is X11R6.8.2. It won't be uploaded into Debian unstable until its packages and the testing-proposed-updates infrastructure are ready. See http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/svn/xfree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans for more information. See also: 'get xorg' |
| 05:26.49 | cafuego | budluva: use 8x media |
| 05:26.51 | dondelelcaro | sirmikester: if X works for you, you shouldn't upgrade. |
| 05:26.57 | karsten | jamie: something looks to have bounced your klogd. Yeah. |
| 05:26.58 | sirmikester | okk |
| 05:27.00 | simonrvn | when it isn't. though technically you could consider it as such |
| 05:27.03 | Gnea | sirmikester: just RTFM and decide for yourself |
| 05:27.08 | fulldisclosure | versuchsanstalt, arent they free software systems? |
| 05:27.09 | sirmikester | will debian eventually move to X |
| 05:27.11 | jamie | karsten: so how does a fresh build get cracked... |
| 05:27.13 | karsten | jamie: ...though IIRC it may restart periodically..... |
| 05:27.15 | budluva | cafuego, i have 16x media and a 16x burner |
| 05:27.17 | fulldisclosure | BSD license is not a free license? and GPL? |
| 05:27.19 | dondelelcaro | sirmikester: yes. see http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/svn/xfree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans |
| 05:27.21 | karsten | !tell sirmikester about x.org |
| 05:27.21 | Gnea | debian already has X |
| 05:27.22 | cafuego | sirmikester: Debian is on X. xfree86. |
| 05:27.23 | fulldisclosure | only debian can say what is free? |
| 05:27.24 | jamie | karsten: right, it will via cron to rotate. |
| 05:27.24 | fulldisclosure | bah |
| 05:27.26 | karsten | !topicsmite sirmikester |
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| 05:27.27 | cafuego | budluva: dma mode? |
| 05:27.27 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon sirmikester. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 05:27.31 | jamie | karsten: logrotate... |
| 05:27.36 | simonrvn | fulldisclosure: what? |
| 05:27.42 | simonrvn | ... |
| 05:27.43 | budluva | cafuego, i think dma is set to 1 for this drive, so dma enabled |
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| 05:27.48 | jamie | karsten: .... isn't installled... |
| 05:27.50 | Gnea | fulldisclosure: Debian says what is free for Debian. |
| 05:27.52 | karsten | jamie: Right. But 30 seconds past a minute is an awfully odd time for that. |
| 05:27.52 | budluva | cafuego, let me double check that though |
| 05:27.55 | karsten | jamie: Hrm. |
| 05:27.59 | nathan__ | debian is on X? i saw that comercial "my daughter tried X and it killed her!" :/ |
| 05:28.05 | karsten | jamie: BRB, need water. |
| 05:28.08 | sirmikester | :-P |
| 05:28.11 | simonrvn | nathan__: yeh, dude |
| 05:28.14 | jamie | karsten: ok |
| 05:28.14 | karsten | nathan__: No. That's *H*. |
| 05:28.15 | simonrvn | ... |
| 05:28.33 | cafuego | fulldisclosure: Soem software in Ubuntu is not free, free as in speech. Notably all the restricted stuff. And that's IN Ubuntu, where as non-free is not IN Debian. |
| 05:28.38 | fulldisclosure | Gnea, for sure, I was using debian for years, now I use ubuntu because gnome2.10 xorg6.8.2 etc, no more, and I -only- use free systems |
| 05:28.40 | simonrvn | smack, h, junk, china white (though only for a sub-cat.), ... |
| 05:28.42 | budluva | cafuego, how do i enable/disable dma on a device? |
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| 05:28.49 | PEACEYALL | sup all |
| 05:28.49 | cafuego | budluva: hdparm |
| 05:28.58 | simonrvn | PEACEYALL: the sky |
| 05:29.02 | PEACEYALL | how do i check a filezise in bytes not kbs ? |
| 05:29.09 | Gnea | fulldisclosure: you use the word 'free' as if it's a blanket terminology |
| 05:29.16 | fulldisclosure | ¿? |
| 05:29.18 | jamie | karsten, let me know when you get back... 3:15:30 is when the machine restarted according to syslogd |
| 05:29.22 | simonrvn | @free |
| 05:29.23 | ravenbird | hmm... free is defined in English with many different meanings of which only one refers to cost. easier in french, or 'free beer' = gratuit 'free speech' = libre, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html, or free (procps) tells you how much memory is used/wasted ("Mem:"), and how much is being necessarily used/could be freed ("-/+ buffers/cache:") |
| 05:29.26 | nathan__ | so linux promotes illegal drug use? *gasp* |
| 05:29.27 | fulldisclosure | dont want to aregue this anymore |
| 05:29.29 | thattoo | Hello, I'm here to ask for help. My root partition is about to fill, and I need to know whether it's safe to move the /root home directory to another partition and replace it with a symlink. |
| 05:29.29 | dondelelcaro | PEACEYALL: stat, ls -l, etc. |
| 05:29.34 | Gnea | good idea. :) |
| 05:29.37 | PEACEYALL | ok |
| 05:29.37 | fulldisclosure | nathan__, I dont use drugs, I am straight edge |
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| 05:29.45 | simonrvn | oh great... |
| 05:29.51 | fulldisclosure | drug free, no free drug |
| 05:29.56 | dondelelcaro | fulldisclosure: breathe in, breathe out. Congratulations, you've done drugs. |
| 05:30.00 | karsten | jamie: back. |
| 05:30.07 | fulldisclosure | :? |
| 05:30.08 | nathan__ | oh wait, debian only promotes FREE drug use |
| 05:30.11 | nathan__ | :P |
| 05:30.12 | jamie | karsten: looks to me like that's when logs started up on bootup. |
| 05:30.14 | fulldisclosure | no, I hate drugs |
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| 05:30.16 | karsten | jamie: Um. What? Then it was up for 5 seconds? |
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| 05:30.23 | waxboy | i don't know about anyone else, but when i'm on drugs it's very hard to use linux |
| 05:30.23 | Gnea | fulldisclosure: so you hate yourself. |
| 05:30.26 | fulldisclosure | nathan__, join heroine, I dont care |
| 05:30.28 | budluva | cafuego, can i paste the hdparm output to #flood for you? or do you just want to know if dma is enabled? and yes it is enabled |
| 05:30.35 | fulldisclosure | he... |
| 05:30.45 | simonrvn | fulldisclosure: i suppose you wouldn't take the antibiotics that a doctor prescribed for you |
| 05:30.49 | jamie | karsten: hmm |
| 05:30.53 | Phated | Mmmm, antibiotics. |
| 05:31.12 | karsten | jamie: reboot system boot 2.4.27 Fri Apr 29 03:09 (00:04) |
| 05:31.13 | nathan__ | waxboy: when i smoke pot i find OSX more appealing than KDE/Gnome.. it looks fruitier |
| 05:31.13 | Phated | Testosterone! *duck* |
| 05:31.15 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: some people's children... |
| 05:31.17 | fulldisclosure | simonrvn, read about straight edge |
| 05:31.19 | jamie | karsten, no... at 3:14:35 (syslog.0) it switched to runlevel 6. reboot... |
| 05:31.21 | nathan__ | and i like fruit when i have the munchies |
| 05:31.23 | fulldisclosure | I dont need to explain anything |
| 05:31.27 | karsten | jamie: shutdown system down 2.4.27 Fri Apr 29 03:14 - 06:45 (03:30) |
| 05:31.28 | simonrvn | fulldisclosure: read about how non-sensical it is |
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| 05:31.28 | jamie | karsten: right, that one at 3:09 was me. |
| 05:31.31 | dondelelcaro | hique: if you have a question, feel free to ask in channel |
| 05:31.41 | fulldisclosure | simonrvn, dont annoy me |
| 05:31.47 | karsten | jamie: 3:14 then. Dig. |
| 05:31.52 | jamie | karsten: at 3:15:30 back up then... |
| 05:31.55 | karsten | jamie: Wrong period I've been looking at... |
| 05:31.56 | simonrvn | fulldisclosure: too late, you've already annoyed *me* |
| 05:32.03 | jamie | karsten: sorry! |
| 05:32.09 | karsten | jamie: Like Yoda do I talk. |
| 05:32.14 | waxboy | nathan__: OSX and pot go great together, and i'm willing to bet if i take some halluhinogens i'll be able to talk to my mac :D |
| 05:32.16 | jetscreamer | yep works fine |
| 05:32.18 | jetscreamer | ooo |
| 05:32.20 | jetscreamer | kill him jim |
| 05:32.21 | nathan__ | waxboy: and when im stoned i dont care how sluggish my OSX box is, since it goes at my speed |
| 05:32.22 | jetscreamer | you go girl |
| 05:32.22 | jamie | karsten: ;-) |
| 05:32.26 | Gnea | thattoo: i'd go like this: create your filesystem on a partition and generate an /etc/fstab entry, then in one commandline: mv /root /root-bak && mkdir /root && mount /root && cp -a /root-bak/* /root/ && rm -rf /root-bak |
| 05:32.34 | simonrvn | and he had to /msg me the fact he was setting me on /ignore. lame. |
| 05:32.47 | karsten | simonrvn: Heh. |
| 05:32.54 | Gnea | fulldisclosure: here's a better idea: STFU and stick to topic |
| 05:33.03 | simonrvn | good, now i dont have to ignore him :) |
| 05:33.04 | Phated | simonrvn: You needed that to convince you he was lame after everything? |
| 05:33.04 | fulldisclosure | Gnea, what? |
| 05:33.07 | jamie | karsten: looks like run level 6, kernel log shows shutdown, system boot, kernel log starts up. all normal except for the run level 6 |
| 05:33.12 | simonrvn | Phated: no :) |
| 05:33.12 | Gnea | fulldisclosure: here's a better idea: STFU and stick to topic |
| 05:33.24 | Gnea | i feel like a broken record |
| 05:33.34 | Phated | simonrvn: You're still in possession of your sense, then. :) |
| 05:33.35 | karsten | jamie: Did you log in remotely as root? |
| 05:33.38 | nathan__ | waxboy: i had Desktop Weather setup to announce the current weather conditions whenever they changed, freaked me out when i was stoned so i had to disbale it :/ |
| 05:33.38 | Phated | Gnea: Sound like one, too. |
| 05:33.41 | fulldisclosure | I think you are too many hours in front of a machine. |
| 05:33.43 | jamie | karsten: yes, always |
| 05:33.44 | simonrvn | Phated: i am? :). wow |
| 05:33.44 | Gnea | Phated: hehehe :) |
| 05:33.48 | furrywolf | first test, 60A for 30 seconds. second test, 60A for 5 minutes. third test, 60A for 20 minutes. any guess on how long the battery will put out 60A for the fourth test, tomorrow morning? :) |
| 05:33.53 | jetscreamer | you dang ops are too dang nice, just kick him!!!! :) |
| 05:33.55 | jamie | karsten: i'm in houston, server in france ;-) |
| 05:33.57 | waxboy | gnea: careful, they don't like that |
| 05:33.57 | karsten | jamie: Tsk. RootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 05:33.59 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: utilize /ignore |
| 05:34.00 | karsten | jamie: Log in as you. |
| 05:34.10 | karsten | jamie: sudo root. Then you know who root is. |
| 05:34.13 | jamie | karsten: why, so i can sudo with no passwd.. ;-) |
| 05:34.14 | nathan__ | having a computer talk to you when youre buzzed isnt a good idea |
| 05:34.17 | jamie | karsten: yeah, true. |
| 05:34.19 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: utilize /ignore if you must. [Same goes for anyone else who has a problem.] |
| 05:34.19 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: it is done. |
| 05:34.28 | jamie | karsten: but there are no other local users ever |
| 05:34.33 | Gnea | waxboy: 'they'? |
| 05:34.34 | jetscreamer | waxboy homie |
| 05:34.51 | jetscreamer | dondelelcaro: i've only ignored one person so far |
| 05:34.58 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: lucky you... ;-) |
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| 05:34.59 | shimano55 | Question, What do I need to install to be able to open .deb files? |
| 05:35.03 | thattoo | Gnea, when you say "create your filesystem," do you mean that I must repartition the drive just to move the /root directory? |
| 05:35.04 | Chass | hey... i'd like to offer my media collection up as an html page to friends.. i can code it, but it seems like such a good idea that i'm SURE there are already packages to do it. any ideas? Id also like to have a button to "archive and send folder" |
| 05:35.06 | karsten | jamie: It's a really good practice. |
| 05:35.09 | caphuso | shimano55: debian |
| 05:35.10 | jamie | karsten: so only thing i have to worry about as root is remote brute force attack and my passwords are generated randomly 20 chars... (i use keys to log in) |
| 05:35.10 | dondelelcaro | shimano55: just run dpkg-deb -x foo.deb; |
| 05:35.14 | Gnea | shimano55: alien |
| 05:35.19 | karsten | jamie: I live alone. I lock my screen when I step away from the keyboard. |
| 05:35.22 | furrywolf | I usually ignore the entire channel, by wandering off and doing something useful when the channel is too stupid to help anyone. :P |
| 05:35.30 | jamie | right! definitely... |
| 05:35.30 | fulldisclosure | http://www.ubuntu-es.org/ |
| 05:35.33 | fulldisclosure | look that |
| 05:35.34 | karsten | jamie: you *know* it's you when you log in. |
| 05:35.34 | Coke | jetscreamer: wasn't jetscream the decepticon who always got his ass kickd by starscream? |
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| 05:35.39 | budluva | can someone tell me why all my RAM is getting used but none of my swap is used at all? free -m shows 500/504 meg of ram free and 0/1027 meg of swap...whats wrong here? |
| 05:35.41 | Gnea | thattoo: well, you haven't created a partition for this yet? |
| 05:35.42 | jamie | karsten: agreed. i'm considering turning off password logins altogether, sticking with keys. |
| 05:35.47 | karsten | budluva: cache |
| 05:35.48 | jamie | karsten: what do you think... |
| 05:35.48 | dondelelcaro | fulldisclosure: again, ubuntu is completely OT here. If you bring it up again, you will be devoiced. |
| 05:36.03 | jamie | karsten: just leave root, but... |
| 05:36.06 | jamie | karsten: nah? root and my user? |
| 05:36.06 | jetscreamer | Coke: not afaik... starscream didn't do much asskickin ... i thought he was cool though |
| 05:36.07 | simonrvn | fucking fanbois... |
| 05:36.11 | budluva | karsten, is it my pc's setup or is it something not configured in debian? |
| 05:36.12 | karsten | jamie: No root login and RSAKey / DSAKey auth are strongly encouraged. |
| 05:36.18 | fulldisclosure | dondelelcaro, if ubuntu is not free why then they fight against patents and for free software? |
| 05:36.20 | karsten | budluva: it's efficient use of memory. |
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| 05:36.31 | jetscreamer | boo |
| 05:36.31 | Phated | simonrvn: And fangrrls? ;) |
| 05:36.34 | karsten | budluva: google memory cache site:linuxmafia.com |
| 05:36.34 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 05:36.36 | jetscreamer | oh, nm |
| 05:36.49 | jamie | karsten: ok fair enough. you're right. i use rsakey right now for everythbing and root password is impossible to brute force (i have a script that randomly generates all my passwords very long) |
| 05:36.53 | simonrvn | Phated: quite. though i encounter much less many fangrrls than fanbois |
| 05:37.05 | Coke | jetscreamer: what was the names of those two other jets? |
| 05:37.07 | jamie | karsten: but i've been using root just because i sudo su - anyway |
| 05:37.08 | karsten | jamie: Heh. aptitude install pwgen. |
| 05:37.16 | Phated | simonrvn: Fan(grrl|boi) of what, specifically? |
| 05:37.24 | karsten | jamie: Yeah. It's a good practice not to log in as root. |
| 05:37.28 | nathan__ | are there any solutions for Linux that compared to macromedia dreamweaver, or that are atleast compatible with dreamweaver templates? |
| 05:37.28 | jamie | karsten: pass=`makepasswd --minchars=12 --maxchars=20 --string="abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789;-_=+.,/?#\$%^*()"` |
| 05:37.34 | Coke | jetscreamer: and, yeah, I know, starscream got bashed a lot by megatron and I remember he turned his anger on the other two jets all the time. |
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| 05:37.42 | jamie | karsten: yeah ;-) |
| 05:37.47 | thattoo | Gnea, I am, at this moment, speaking to you from an installed Debian system whose 120-megabyte root partition is about to fill and crash because so many applications are storing data in the root user's home directory on that tiny partition. |
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| 05:37.59 | Gnea | karsten: i find myself editting many an sshd_config to turn that off |
| 05:38.00 | simonrvn | Phated: anything really. sure you like it, but don't prosleytise (sp?) |
| 05:38.02 | jamie | so i just automatically print out my password and don't store it anywhere ;-) |
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| 05:38.03 | karsten | jamie: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg74081.html |
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| 05:38.12 | Phated | simonrvn: You could say pimp. ;) |
| 05:38.13 | simonrvn | @dict proslyetise |
| 05:38.17 | ravenbird | could not find definition for proslyetise |
| 05:38.20 | simonrvn | @dict proslyetize |
| 05:38.21 | ravenbird | could not find definition for proslyetize |
| 05:38.25 | karsten | Gnea: Oi. I just turned it _on_ for a set of boxen, but once we get stuff sorted, it's going straight off again. |
| 05:38.33 | nathan__ | @dict proslyetis |
| 05:38.35 | ravenbird | could not find definition for proslyetis |
| 05:38.37 | jetscreamer | Coke: this nick is from the jetsons.... i kinda remember starscream and 2 others though... not sure |
| 05:38.38 | dondelelcaro | thattoo: you shouldn't be storing almost anything on /root (unless you mean / ) |
| 05:38.52 | Gnea | karsten: dumb. but ok... |
| 05:38.56 | Phated | simonrvn: proselytize? |
| 05:39.04 | jetscreamer | spell it correctly |
| 05:39.05 | jamie | karsten: i use gentoo keychain and rsa keys... never passwrod reuse |
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| 05:39.10 | waxboy | man do i feel dumb, i can't even work the dpkg bot, could i.. uh.. get an example? |
| 05:39.12 | Phated | Yes, it is spelt correctly. |
| 05:39.15 | thattoo | dondelelcaro, yes, I know. It's just that so many packages store data there. |
| 05:39.16 | simonrvn | Phated: yes. thank you :) |
| 05:39.18 | karsten | Gnea: No, have to get a bunch of accounts sorted. Well, about 8. School lab. |
| 05:39.19 | jabra | any idea how to fix Unable to connect to IPP host: Success with cups |
| 05:39.24 | Phated | simonrvn: Thank google, my good man. :) |
| 05:39.25 | simonrvn | though s/z/s/ ;p |
| 05:39.26 | dondelelcaro | thattoo: uh, no packages should store anything there. |
| 05:39.40 | karsten | jamie: gentoo keychain? |
| 05:39.41 | Phated | simonrvn: Should have used google.co.uk. XD |
| 05:39.42 | jamie | karsten: thanks for htat link! very interesting |
| 05:39.42 | dondelelcaro | thattoo: the only thing that should be in /root is whatever comes by default in skel |
| 05:39.44 | cafuego | ooh, cola scented bath foam |
| 05:39.48 | karsten | jamie: ;-) |
| 05:39.49 | Phated | Oooh. |
| 05:39.52 | Phated | cafuego: Where? |
| 05:39.52 | simonrvn | jamie: keychain is in debian too |
| 05:39.57 | jamie | karsten: yes, it's very useful. i discovered it in my brief gentoo excursion |
| 05:40.02 | cafuego | Phated: In a bottle on my desk |
| 05:40.03 | Gnea | thattoo: what i'm asking is have you installed another hard drive and/or partitioned your current drive to provide increased space? |
| 05:40.04 | jamie | simonrvn: right, that's how i use it ;-) |
| 05:40.07 | jamie | apt-get install keychain |
| 05:40.08 | simonrvn | :) |
| 05:40.08 | Phated | cafuego: *want* |
| 05:40.08 | jamie | quite nice |
| 05:40.13 | simonrvn | it is |
| 05:40.16 | cafuego | www.sohum.com.au |
| 05:40.22 | karsten | cafuego: You have Phated in a bottle on your desk? |
| 05:40.26 | nathan__ | anyone able to reccomend a terminal font thats a bit easier to read when youre stoned? :P |
| 05:40.27 | Chass | anyone? an opensource media serving http library? |
| 05:40.39 | Phated | cafuego: Say yes and watch karsten die of jealousy! |
| 05:40.41 | dondelelcaro | nathan__: probably the bigger the better... |
| 05:40.43 | cafuego | karsten: Bottled Phated, it's the new black! |
| 05:40.50 | jamie | it's by daniel robbins, the progenitor of gentoo. (i have a lot of respect for gentoo, but it's just too active for my servers, and debian sid upgrades much faster than gentoo for my desktop) |
| 05:40.55 | karsten | cafuego: Put a cork in it! |
| 05:41.02 | nathan__ | dondelelcaro: probably |
| 05:41.02 | budluva | karsten, i didnt find anything related to what im looking for, my search came up with 4 results |
| 05:41.08 | karsten | cafuego: ...or other stoppering device. |
| 05:41.22 | nathan__ | dondelelcaro: ive been experimenting with a few monospace fonts, havent found anything that great so far |
| 05:41.23 | budluva | karsten, i just want to know if its fixable or not, im hoping it just something setup wrong with debian |
| 05:41.26 | Phated | Aaaack! |
| 05:41.37 | simonrvn | nathan__: i like lucidatypewriter |
| 05:41.40 | karsten | budluva: It's not broken. |
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| 05:41.48 | dondelelcaro | nathan__: yeah, I just happen to like fixed... |
| 05:41.51 | Phated | Go 'way. |
| 05:41.58 | budluva | karsten, thats the way its supposed to work? |
| 05:42.01 | Phated | I like terminus. |
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| 05:42.28 | thattoo | Gnea, I have room for more partitions on another drive if I need them, but I'd rather not do something so extreme right now if I can get by, at least temporary, simply by moving /root to a subdirectory on, say, the /usr or /home partition. |
| 05:42.35 | karsten | budluva: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html |
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| 05:43.08 | jamie | karsten: so your diagnosis is... undiagnosable, not enough info? |
| 05:43.19 | jamie | karsten: i still think syslevel 6 means c-a-d... |
| 05:43.26 | thattoo | Gnea, all I'm trying to do now is to make sure I'm not likely to mangle the OS by trying to prevent it from mangling itself. :o) |
| 05:43.30 | jamie | karsten: just not willing to reboot my machine right now! ;-) |
| 05:43.48 | karsten | jamie: /etc/inittab: ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now |
| 05:43.51 | Coke | jetscreamer: actualy, they were six! :) dirge, ramjet, skywarp, thrust, thundercracker and, ofcourse, starscream. |
| 05:44.01 | karsten | jamie: No clear indication of what. |
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| 05:44.18 | karsten | budluva: Your system has memory in it. |
| 05:44.19 | nathan__ | what was the DPL election? |
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| 05:44.29 | karsten | budluva: If there's free memory, then it's not being used for anything. |
| 05:44.31 | jetscreamer | overfiend won |
| 05:44.31 | jamie | karsten: sorry, what are you saying exactly? i know about the cad line, but ...? |
| 05:44.34 | dondelelcaro | nathan__: that's where Debian Developers elect teh new project leader. |
| 05:44.35 | karsten | budluva: Your system has disk. |
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| 05:44.40 | Coke | jetscreamer: starsceram announced himself leader of that pack by enforcing kiss-up kick-down tactics, according to some bio. |
| 05:44.44 | karsten | budluva: Disk == ~1000x slower than memory. |
| 05:44.45 | nathan__ | dondelelcaro: ah i see |
| 05:44.54 | dondelelcaro | nathan__: see debian.org/vote if you ahve questions. |
| 05:44.58 | dondelelcaro | s/ah/ha/ |
| 05:44.59 | karsten | budluva: Your system reads from disk and caches to memory, so long as memory isn't required for something else. |
| 05:45.13 | jamie | karsten: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user%40lists.debian.org/msg74081.html |
| 05:45.17 | karsten | budluva: That memory is "used". And shows so in 'free' or 'top'. BUt it's used for cache. |
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| 05:45.22 | kneer0w | is it possible to install linux in a PC emulator and then gank the drive that had linux installed on it and put it in another box and have linux boot up? |
| 05:45.26 | jamie | oops wrong one |
| 05:45.42 | kneer0w | KahiN is doing onjoin spam, btw. |
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| 05:45.47 | karsten | budluva: If your kernel actually needs to put something interesting there, it can just _dump_ the cache (it's already on disk), and allocate it. |
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| 05:46.01 | jetscreamer | Coke: starscream became cool to me when he did the 'remembering the homeworld' thing |
| 05:46.02 | christor | Please I have this line in my messages files sshd(pam_unix) authentification failure logname= uid=0 euid=0 ruser= rhost=machine.ip user=christor, However the connection works properly , what is it? |
| 05:46.08 | jamie | karsten: thanks for all your help!!! |
| 05:46.12 | Chass | anyone? an opensource media serving http server? |
| 05:46.13 | maher | kneer0w: yes |
| 05:46.14 | jamie | karsten: have a great night everyone... |
| 05:46.17 | karsten | budluva: On an active system, "unused" memory is ideally zero. In practice, it's slightly nonzero. What's happening is you're saving yourself a ton of really slow disk reads. |
| 05:46.21 | karsten | jamie: Ciao. |
| 05:46.43 | budluva | oh |
| 05:46.46 | kneer0w | maher: care to be a bit more explicit? |
| 05:46.48 | Coke | jetscreamer: oh, don't remember that. |
| 05:47.08 | karsten | budluva: Nothing's broken. As long as it's _cache_ that's tying up mmemory, you've got an efficient system. |
| 05:47.08 | maher | kneer0w: well - just do what you said |
| 05:47.10 | budluva | im reading that sourceforge article, and now i think i have an understanding of how memory is used |
| 05:47.20 | karsten | budluva: Completely, ideally ;-) |
| 05:47.32 | kneer0w | maher: but ... how. a VMWARE install for instance creates an image file where the data is stored |
| 05:47.37 | budluva | karsten, thanks :P |
| 05:47.37 | kneer0w | and doesn't actually create a 'real' filesystem |
| 05:47.45 | karsten | budluva: Martin Poole does kernel work on the VM and has a set of *extremely* good articles describing it. |
| 05:47.47 | jetscreamer | Coke: was very short, he was jsut talking about the old days (to a human i think) but finally he didn't sound like a whiney bastid |
| 05:47.48 | Coke | kneer0w: yes it does |
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| 05:48.08 | karsten | budluva: cache, VM, and swap, in particular. Three things there's a metric freakin' buttload of bullshit about. |
| 05:48.11 | maher | kneer0w: you want to install linux on a hd and then stick it in another machine? |
| 05:48.34 | kneer0w | maher: right, but i want to install linux on a HD from my windows box while i'm running windows through VMware. |
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| 05:49.04 | maher | kneer0w: why don't you boot to knoppix and just run debootstrap |
| 05:49.10 | Coke | jetscreamer: I primarely remember him pleading for his life when crossing and/or backstabbing megatron. hehe. |
| 05:49.23 | budluva | karsten, cool, will have to take a read one day |
| 05:49.40 | kneer0w | maher: because that defeats the purpose of running an emulator to do all the work. |
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| 05:49.50 | pepperpot | Coke, decepticons rule lol |
| 05:50.08 | kneer0w | maher: A) i don't want to burn the media to a physical CD. B) seeing as I only have one computer, i want to have windows open so that I can google if i run into any problems |
| 05:51.12 | Coke | jetscreamer: there are several, but I've seen only two and both those featured the Generation 1 ("original") characters. I don't care for the other series. |
| 05:51.35 | maher | kneer0w: ok - i thought you meant you were running the emulator to boot linux under windows |
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| 05:52.12 | maher | kneer0w: why don't you just try a netinstall and read the docs if it doesn't work |
| 05:52.22 | karsten | dpkg: swap 2x ram is also ...but see: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html |
| 05:52.23 | dpkg | karsten: okay |
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| 05:52.37 | jetscreamer | i've only seen the first transformer movie |
| 05:52.44 | jetscreamer | which i found cool |
| 05:52.48 | thattoo | Last call for anyone who might want to warn Yours Ignorantly that I shouldn't move root's home directory from /root to /home/root. |
| 05:53.06 | jetscreamer | thattoo: why do you want to btw |
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| 05:53.15 | karsten | thattoo: Suggest you don't. |
| 05:53.19 | kooldeb | given this line from lspci, where should I add support for it under menucofig of the config file ? 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM (ICH4) Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 01) |
| 05:53.28 | dondelelcaro | karsten: but they're more than meets the eye? |
| 05:53.31 | karsten | thattoo: If /home is a seperate partition, root won't have a homedire when booting single user. |
| 05:53.34 | kneer0w | maher: downtime on the single machine that I have running already. |
| 05:53.49 | tug | hey |
| 05:53.49 | jetscreamer | ah so that's why it's /root not home/root |
| 05:53.55 | karsten | dondelelcaro: I prefer to think of myself as "The I that meats the mores". |
| 05:54.16 | tug | how do I get xhat to automatically insert the nick when I click on a persons name? |
| 05:54.20 | maher | kneer0w: you can make installing arbitrarily difficult by putting weird constraints on the process |
| 05:54.21 | karsten | thattoo: But it's your foot, your gun, and your bullets. Fire when ready. |
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| 05:54.35 | jetscreamer | tug, here i type a couple letters and hit he tab key |
| 05:54.40 | nathan__ | is it just me, or are debian-ppc apps more stable than debian-i386 compiled apps? |
| 05:54.46 | nathan__ | atleast in sarge |
| 05:55.26 | tug | isnt there a click insert way? |
| 05:55.55 | jetscreamer | tug: it's probably a client thing |
| 05:56.59 | tug | jetscreamer: any way to get that working in xchat? |
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| 05:57.36 | jetscreamer | tug: #xchat might know |
| 05:57.41 | jetscreamer | i don't |
| 05:57.48 | tug | its on freenode? |
| 05:57.56 | jetscreamer | yes just right click #schat |
| 05:58.02 | jetscreamer | errr #xchat |
| 05:58.16 | nathan__ | is there a more reliable alternative to smb4k? |
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| 05:59.29 | carnil | 7wi20 |
| 05:59.40 | carnil | ups |
| 05:59.45 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 06:00.24 | thattoo | jetscreamer, my 120-megabyte root partition is about to fill and crash because of the data that various apps are storing on that tiny partition. |
| 06:00.24 | thattoo | karsten, then what should I do? I can't just let the root partition fill. |
| 06:00.32 | thattoo | My ISP always picks the best times to disconnect me. |
| 06:00.42 | shimano55 | Question, What does this mean? "modprobe: Can't locate module ndiswrapper |
| 06:00.43 | shimano55 | ". And what can I do about it? |
| 06:00.53 | Moonscope | ok, so i want to add a driver for a network card, how do i go about it? |
| 06:01.12 | jetscreamer | thattoo: /root != / |
| 06:01.22 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.31 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.32 | Gnea | Moonscope: match the right one up and modprobe it |
| 06:01.44 | Moonscope | its a realtek 8139 |
| 06:01.46 | karsten | thattoo: WTF are you putting in /root? |
| 06:01.47 | Gnea | shimano55: it means ndiswrapper isn't installed, use apt-get |
| 06:02.07 | thattoo | jetscreamer, I do know that. I wouldn't be thinking about moving /root off / if I thought the two were the same thing, now, would I? |
| 06:02.16 | karsten | thattoo: Suggest you fix the apps in question. Writing to / or /root as a matter of course is a bug. |
| 06:02.22 | jetscreamer | realtek 8139 is rtl8139too iirc |
| 06:02.23 | Moonscope | im not familar with modprobe... how do i use it? |
| 06:02.30 | karsten | Moonscope: man modprobe |
| 06:02.37 | shimano55 | Gnea, I did....I went "apt-get instal ndiswrapper-source" and "apt-get ndiswrapper-utilis" |
| 06:02.40 | karsten | Moonscope: 'modprobe <module>' generally. |
| 06:02.43 | jetscreamer | modprobe rtl8139too ... but it's not persistent across reboots |
| 06:02.47 | maher | thattoo: moving /root should be harmless - nothing shol dbe using /root anyway |
| 06:02.51 | jetscreamer | errr |
| 06:02.55 | jetscreamer | 8139too |
| 06:03.00 | jetscreamer | not rtlblah |
| 06:03.00 | Moonscope | how do you make it persistent? |
| 06:03.01 | Gnea | shimano55: ok, well just installing them isn't gonna do it, you actually have to go and configure it |
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| 06:03.11 | Gnea | shimano55: look in /usr/src |
| 06:03.14 | jetscreamer | edit /etc/modules, or just use modconf in the first place |
| 06:03.20 | karsten | maher: Problem is if running single user. Root's home dir and any related data are unavailable. Not critical of itself, but inconvenient at best. |
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| 06:03.32 | karsten | Moonscope: Add the module to /etc/modules |
| 06:03.47 | karsten | deadcat: Well you look like death warmed over. |
| 06:04.03 | deadcat | what you mean? |
| 06:04.11 | karsten | deadcat: Your nick.... |
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| 06:04.26 | deadcat | karsten: put the weed down (= |
| 06:04.28 | shimano55 | Gnea, ok...I see the source "ndiswrapper-source.tar.bz2"...now what? |
| 06:04.32 | jetscreamer | i guess he likes fried dead cats |
| 06:04.43 | karsten | jetscreamer: heh. |
| 06:04.50 | Moonscope | does modprobe use the net? |
| 06:04.52 | thattoo | karsten, thanks for confirming my suspicions. It does look like a bug. For example, one app stored an 8-megabyte text file under /root just to list and describe a zillion printers that a user might possibly want to use one day. |
| 06:04.55 | Moonscope | to find the modules? |
| 06:04.58 | karsten | jetscreamer: I prefer them better live, actually. |
| 06:05.03 | karsten | jetscreamer: ...and not fried. |
| 06:05.03 | Gnea | shimano55: you have to unpack it, man tar |
| 06:05.03 | jetscreamer | Moonscope: no |
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| 06:05.09 | deadcat | Moonscope: no. /lib/modules/`uname -r` |
| 06:05.15 | karsten | thattoo: Yep. |
| 06:05.17 | cZa | Does anybody know how to use xsetbg? in which packget is it in? |
| 06:05.28 | karsten | !tell cZa about search |
| 06:05.29 | deadcat | cZa: man it |
| 06:05.36 | jetscreamer | apt-file search xsetbg |
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| 06:06.00 | dopeic | where do pcmcia flash memory cards, boud there axx to in /dev ? |
| 06:06.02 | jetscreamer | see also apt-cache |
| 06:06.10 | karsten | cZa: It's a *really* old X utility. IIRC it only handles limited file formats unless it's been updated. |
| 06:06.16 | Moonscope | hmm, it cant find the 8139 module, should it be there |
| 06:06.18 | shimano55 | Gnea, ok....now what? |
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| 06:06.21 | deadcat | dopeic: they are hdX |
| 06:06.25 | Gnea | shimano55: now what what? |
| 06:06.27 | dopeic | k thanx |
| 06:06.29 | jetscreamer | Moonscope: 8139too ? |
| 06:06.29 | karsten | cZa: There's a lot of graphics utils that have much better capability/functionality in that regard now. |
| 06:06.45 | shimano55 | Gnea, I unpacked the .tar.bz2, should it work now? |
| 06:06.46 | Gnea | cd ls cd ls cd ls |
| 06:06.47 | shimano55 | or what? |
| 06:06.49 | cZa | karsten: i just need a tool to set my bagground with ;) - Running fluxbox |
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| 06:06.51 | deadcat | dopeic: make sure you have the IDE_DEV_BLK CS thing in the kernel though. |
| 06:07.05 | deadcat | cZa: fbsetbg |
| 06:07.06 | jetscreamer | hey speaking/typing of: |
| 06:07.10 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: yeah thats what i tried, i got - FATAL: Module 8139too not found. |
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| 06:07.22 | karsten | cZa: xloadimage. Hrm. PNG. It's been updated. |
| 06:07.24 | dopeic | ftl: Unknown symbol deregister_mtd_blktrans |
| 06:07.25 | dopeic | and so on |
| 06:07.29 | jetscreamer | Moonscope: apt-get install modconf && modconf |
| 06:07.30 | dopeic | is my ftl module broken or? |
| 06:07.38 | dopeic | have i configured somthing wrong |
| 06:07.46 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: bad news, this is for a network card. |
| 06:07.48 | karsten | cZa: gimp, imagemagick, WM menus... Should be there. |
| 06:07.49 | shimano55 | Gnea, ? |
| 06:08.04 | cZa | karsten: i fixed it ;) thanks for help.. |
| 06:08.06 | thattoo | karsten, then do you suppose it would be safe just to move a few of those subdirectories with the biggest files in them? |
| 06:08.07 | deadcat | flubox comes with fbsetbg |
| 06:08.12 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: the only network card. |
| 06:08.15 | cZa | deadcat: thanks ;) |
| 06:08.28 | Gnea | shimano55: this isn't windows, you have do it yourself |
| 06:08.36 | tchino | i have debian sarge, when i want install kde 3.4 i get the error with kmail and libkcal2 |
| 06:08.43 | karsten | thattoo: I'd find out 1) if they're still being written 2) what's writing them 3) what's in them. |
| 06:08.46 | karsten | thattoo: If they can be nuked, I'd just nuke 'em. |
| 06:08.49 | jetscreamer | there is no kde3.4 in testing |
| 06:08.50 | Gnea | shimano55: ls -l is a good place to start |
| 06:08.55 | jetscreamer | Moonscope: lemme look |
| 06:08.56 | deadcat | tchino: kde3.4 is not even in sid. |
| 06:09.01 | karsten | thattoo: If they're being written to _now_, *empty* the files, don't delete them. |
| 06:09.09 | karsten | thattoo: cat /dev/null > file |
| 06:09.25 | karsten | thattoo: ...otherwise you move the file but the filehandle's still open, and you haven't freed the space. |
| 06:09.40 | shimano55 | Gnea, ls -l returns nothing to do with ndiswrapper |
| 06:09.58 | thattoo | Thanks, karsten. That's good to know. No, though, most of the files are from months ago. |
| 06:09.59 | Gnea | this is hopeless. |
| 06:10.06 | karsten | thattoo: OK. |
| 06:10.07 | shimano55 | Gnea, well thanks... |
| 06:10.08 | alkalineX | im having trouble installing firefox with debian using colinux under windows... |
| 06:10.14 | Gnea | shimano55: look in modules/ |
| 06:10.18 | karsten | thattoo: What apps? Any Debian packages, or random stuff you installed? |
| 06:10.20 | tchino | deadcat: exist not a possibility |
| 06:10.32 | thattoo | karsten, they're all Debian packages. |
| 06:10.40 | karsten | thattoo: One possible exception's Perl's CPAN if you've run it as root. It's very make-a-zillion-files happy. |
| 06:10.50 | deadcat | shimano55: what you try to do? |
| 06:10.55 | karsten | thattoo: Bugs. If you can get details and figure out why, file bugs. |
| 06:10.59 | shimano55 | get ndiswrapper installed |
| 06:11.03 | karsten | thattoo: ...assuming you didn't fsck up in running 'em. |
| 06:11.05 | jetscreamer | should be named 8139too... there is also an 8139cp . you should have the modules even if they don't work on your card, the stuff should at least try... what kernel, Moonscope |
| 06:11.05 | shimano55 | Gnea, what am I looking for? |
| 06:11.06 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 06:11.16 | Gnea | shimano55: you already know what |
| 06:11.17 | valdyn | shimano55: apt-get install module-assistant, use it |
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| 06:11.25 | deadcat | shimano55: http://sshonly.sytes.net/config/wireless.links |
| 06:11.28 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: i updated to 2.6.11.7 |
| 06:11.32 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: it was working b4 |
| 06:11.47 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: although it did have to uninstall modutils |
| 06:11.49 | Guerin | !tw@ |
| 06:11.49 | dpkg | rumour has it, tw@ is ( What we think of people who use 'gr8' and other such nonsense words. ) |
| 06:12.02 | jetscreamer | Moonscope: what was the previous kernel |
| 06:12.04 | Gnea | cd |
| 06:12.05 | Gnea | ls -l |
| 06:12.09 | karsten | Gnea: Take Charles Atlas by the balls! |
| 06:12.11 | Gnea | easy commands |
| 06:12.13 | Moonscope | 2.2.0 good ole woody |
| 06:12.17 | Gnea | karsten: no thanks |
| 06:12.20 | jetscreamer | and do you have module-init-tools? ahah you don't i guess? |
| 06:12.31 | Guerin | Moonscope: why are you running 2.6 on woody? |
| 06:12.32 | karsten | Gnea: ObRocky Horror. |
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| 06:12.38 | Moonscope | Guerin: is this bad? |
| 06:12.39 | Gnea | ahhaha |
| 06:12.41 | alkalineX | can anyone help me with installing firefox? |
| 06:12.44 | valdyn | !bunk 2.6 |
| 06:12.44 | dpkg | methinks bunk 2.6 is You can't run Linux 2.6 in woody without some newer packages. Get them at http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/woody/kernel-26.html or just upgrade to sarge <woody->sarge>. |
| 06:12.56 | deadcat | alkalineX: apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
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| 06:13.08 | jetscreamer | Moonscope: you can always reboot to the old kernel and apt-get stuff |
| 06:13.16 | thattoo | karsten, I don't know what I might have done. Everything I'm finding seems to suggest that the apps just threw the files into root's home directory the first time I ran each one as root. |
| 06:13.18 | alkalineX | ty, ill try it |
| 06:13.26 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: is that by changing the lilo? |
| 06:13.28 | karsten | thattoo: What apps? |
| 06:13.42 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: back to the linuz-old stuff? |
| 06:13.43 | maher | thattoo: ok - lots of files put config info in home |
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| 06:13.45 | Guerin | hrm, a sid kernel-image should work on woody,, right? |
| 06:13.49 | karsten | thattoo: Arbitrarially running stuff as root is generally unwise as well. |
| 06:13.51 | deadcat | alkalineX: if you are new to debian, always search for softwares using apt-cache search packagename, then apt-get install packagename |
| 06:13.51 | Guerin | 2.4 series |
| 06:13.52 | BrianAnthony | how do I start visuals in XMMS =S |
| 06:13.54 | maher | thattoo: s/files/spps |
| 06:14.01 | alkalineX | E: Couldn't find package mozilla-firefox |
| 06:14.02 | karsten | BrianAnthony: Smoke a bowl.... |
| 06:14.03 | jetscreamer | Moonscope: yes, but it should be an option already... check lilo.conf and look for prompt and delay= and timeout= |
| 06:14.11 | deadcat | alkalineX: you on woody? |
| 06:14.18 | budluva | can someone help me with my dvd writer? im having problems burning over 4x, i have an NEC 3520A DVD+/-RW 16x DL with Ritek Ridata DVD+R 16x media, using sarge with 2.6.8 kernel, i have tried retecting my writer with k3b and it only burns at 4x, i've tried with XP and i can get well over 4x (can't remember exact speed) but im lost, any suggestions? |
| 06:14.21 | alkalineX | deadcat-yes |
| 06:14.23 | karsten | BrianAnthony: Or install the various plugins. Options => Plugins IIRC. |
| 06:14.23 | BrianAnthony | karsten: way ahead pf ya, buddy |
| 06:14.28 | BrianAnthony | of, even |
| 06:14.38 | BrianAnthony | well, how do I start playing them |
| 06:14.44 | karsten | BrianAnthony: Yes, motor control's affected. |
| 06:14.45 | deadcat | alkalineX: do you REALLY want woody as desktop? if yes. try apt-get.org or backports.org for firefox |
| 06:14.51 | Guerin | BrianAnthony: you enable some in the config, naturally. |
| 06:15.00 | Guerin | BrianAnthony: you know... preferences |
| 06:15.00 | BrianAnthony | It is enabled |
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| 06:15.14 | Guerin | BrianAnthony: clearly not enough. |
| 06:15.18 | alkalineX | deadcat: whats wrong with woody? |
| 06:15.22 | jetscreamer | old |
| 06:15.27 | deadcat | alkalineX: packages are older than you. |
| 06:15.27 | jetscreamer | very old |
| 06:15.29 | karsten | BrianAnthony: Options => Preferences => Visualization Plugins |
| 06:15.30 | BrianAnthony | So there's no like keyboard command to start the visuals? |
| 06:15.35 | karsten | BrianAnthony: Select. Enable. |
| 06:15.36 | alkalineX | lol |
| 06:15.36 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: delay 20, timeout is #'d out |
| 06:15.38 | thattoo | karsten, mozilla would be an example. I ran it to read documentation, and it started filling the cache. |
| 06:15.42 | Gnea | alkalineX: ancient. |
| 06:15.47 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: and so is prompt |
| 06:15.52 | karsten | BrianAnthony: May I recommend What a GOOM! for your toasting pleasure. |
| 06:16.01 | karsten | thattoo: Don't run browsers as root. |
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| 06:16.06 | jabra | know how to fix this error from cups "Unable to connect to IPP host: Success" |
| 06:16.07 | alkalineX | soooooooo..... i upgrade |
| 06:16.08 | karsten | thattoo: ...don't run *X* asa root. |
| 06:16.09 | Gnea | alkalineX: you will need to upgrade if you want any use out of it today |
| 06:16.14 | Guerin | jabra: make it fail? |
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| 06:16.22 | karsten | thattoo: ...and don't log in as root. sudo root in a shell. |
| 06:16.28 | alkalineX | well im running it under colinux |
| 06:16.29 | jetscreamer | Moonscope: timeout is how long lilo sits on the selection menu.. and prompt tells it to sit... so uncomment them and rerun lilo... timeout-150 is the default... (= 15 seconds) |
| 06:16.31 | karsten | thattoo: ...and don't do what lehel just did. |
| 06:16.31 | Gnea | !tell alkalineX about woody->sarge |
| 06:16.46 | jetscreamer | timeout=150 i mean |
| 06:16.49 | deadcat | alkalineX: #colinux |
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| 06:17.09 | Moonscope | jetscreamer: and delay is?? |
| 06:17.12 | thattoo | karsten, I don't do run browsers as root anymore. I had to at the time, though, just to find the manuals I needed to read so I could learn things like that. |
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| 06:17.38 | jetscreamer | delay is (supposedly i think) how long it waits before it boots the image... or something... man lilo.conf |
| 06:17.42 | alkalineX | well its still debian tho |
| 06:17.51 | deadcat | alkalineX: no it aint. |
| 06:17.55 | karsten | thattoo: Dig. *Very* bad idea. Don't do it. Mozilla used to block that with its wrapper scripts. |
| 06:18.01 | karsten | BrianAnthony: You sorted yet? |
| 06:18.17 | jetscreamer | delay=20 is the default |
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| 06:18.27 | karsten | thattoo: FYI, 'du -s * | sort' and filelight are good disk-space-utilization tracking tools |
| 06:18.31 | alkalineX | then why am i using its packages? |
| 06:18.39 | jetscreamer | why ask why |
| 06:18.52 | jetscreamer | !beer alkalineX |
| 06:19.12 | alkalineX | lol |
| 06:19.22 | alkalineX | is there something dumb i should know? |
| 06:19.23 | valdyn | karsten: as long as there's no hardlinks.. |
| 06:19.35 | deadcat | alkalineX: bitch cus they are BASED on debian and using debian packages. |
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| 06:19.41 | Guerin | alkalineX: for anything that's not mission-critical stable (and since you're running in a cheesy emulation mode under windows, this clearly ain't) you want to run sarge. /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 06:19.42 | karsten | valdyn: Point. |
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| 06:20.08 | deadcat | alkalineX: is Mac OSX BSD? |
| 06:20.36 | alkalineX | i thought mac ran backend unix... alike bsd, i dunno |
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| 06:20.53 | deadcat | alkalineX: LIKE. NOT IS.. motherfucker |
| 06:20.54 | thattoo | karsten, I wasn't going on line with the browser as root, though. I was reading documentation that I had already downloaded. Mozilla isn't really a representative example, just the first to pop into my head. |
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| 06:21.11 | Guerin | alkalineX: it runs something which is based on some bits of some bsds |
| 06:21.13 | mwilson | OS X is fBSD 5.x userland, plus sorta kernel, plus Mach on the bottom. |
| 06:21.18 | karsten | thattoo: Suggests a number of bad habits. |
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| 06:21.40 | karsten | thattoo: Clean up your room and behave from here on out. |
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| 06:21.41 | alkalineX | wutsup with everyone flaming? |
| 06:21.50 | Gnea | it's a mutated fBSD 5.x with a diferent label slapped on it to make it sound 'cool' |
| 06:22.07 | jetscreamer | alkalineX: years of sos |
| 06:22.11 | Gnea | alkalineX: this is how we do things. |
| 06:22.18 | alkalineX | i c |
| 06:22.21 | Gnea | you either make it through or you bail out |
| 06:22.23 | jetscreamer | !knoppix |
| 06:22.24 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix |
| 06:22.26 | Guerin | who's flaming? |
| 06:22.32 | jetscreamer | !ubuntu |
| 06:22.32 | dpkg | ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 |
| 06:22.36 | jetscreamer | see? |
| 06:22.41 | jetscreamer | and it goes on&on... |
| 06:22.42 | Guerin | oh |
| 06:22.49 | Gnea | !your mom |
| 06:22.49 | dpkg | somebody said your mom was my hoe |
| 06:22.50 | Guerin | jetscreamer is screaming again |
| 06:23.01 | Guerin | i bet she made a good garden] |
| 06:23.07 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 06:23.37 | mwilson | Oh, great... unstable is transitioning to Gnome 2.10? What else can go wrong? |
| 06:23.55 | Gnea | hrm, and you wonder why it's called 'unstable' |
| 06:23.56 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: i thought that was just experimental? |
| 06:24.04 | jm_ | isn't it just in experimental? |
| 06:24.07 | alkalineX | all i wanted to do is test out debian, so i through colinux together and booted it from within winshit |
| 06:24.28 | mwilson | No --> Depends: libgnomeprint2.2-0 (>= 2.10.2) but 2.8.2-1 is to be installed |
| 06:24.45 | mwilson | evince is dep'ed on 2.10 |
| 06:24.46 | Guerin | alkalineX: yeah. the trouble is that the image colinux provides is based on stable... which was released about july 2002 |
| 06:24.54 | karsten | Has anyone ever tried to kill goom via 'kill'? |
| 06:24.58 | mwilson | Not that I care about evince, particularly... I'd forgotten it was installed. |
| 06:24.58 | karsten | It talks back to you. |
| 06:24.59 | valdyn | mwilson: file a bug report? |
| 06:25.03 | jm_ | they have some non-migrated packages in their own repositories AFAIK |
| 06:25.10 | thattoo | Well, karsten, I don't know what bad habits you're talking about, but they're not mine. |
| 06:25.11 | mwilson | valdyn: Against what? |
| 06:25.35 | valdyn | mwilson: i think evince shouldnt depend on experimental packages |
| 06:25.48 | karsten | thattoo: Browsers as root. Moving /root directory for no good reason. Etc. Several indications. Just calling 'em like I see 'em. |
| 06:26.13 | thattoo | karsten, I didn't move the /root directory. |
| 06:26.15 | mwilson | valdyn: Perhaps not. I can't muster up any caring about it, though... evince is a pretty much worthless thing. I just removed it. |
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| 06:26.37 | nathan__ | do they have deb packages for games like Doom, Quake, etc? |
| 06:26.43 | thattoo | karsten, wanting to reduce the amount of data on the / partition before it crashes is not a bad habit. |
| 06:26.45 | Guerin | nathan__: yes. |
| 06:26.47 | nathan__ | stuff that runs on lower end hardware... |
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| 06:26.53 | Guerin | quake2 |
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| 06:26.59 | Guerin | some other stuff too |
| 06:27.03 | kooldeb | Guerin: here you are |
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| 06:27.05 | ShaunDC | is it possible to resize a vfat partition from with in linux? |
| 06:27.10 | Guerin | kooldeb: here I am |
| 06:27.11 | nathan__ | they included in sarge? |
| 06:27.20 | Guerin | !tell nathan__ about search |
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| 06:27.28 | kooldeb | Guerin : I got output from lspci |
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| 06:27.35 | Guerin | kooldeb: hit meh |
| 06:27.38 | karsten | thattoo: Well, you were going to. I'm not going to argue with you about your competence. I'd strongly suggest you don't try to mislead yourself about your skills and/or knowledge. |
| 06:27.51 | sep | ShaunDC: yes with backup, repartition, mkfs, restore. |
| 06:27.59 | thattoo | I think I'm going to go bye-bye now before the clucking parental unit drives me nuts. |
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| 06:28.09 | jetscreamer | ciao |
| 06:28.11 | Guerin | translation: you're clearly useless and anyone who puts you in charge of a computer is utterly mad. |
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| 06:28.17 | valdyn | !depends evince sid |
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| 06:28.20 | dpkg | evince: depends on libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.7.2), libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.8.0), libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.5.4), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libesd0 (>= 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.29-1), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libgconf2-4 (>= 2.8.1), libgcrypt11, libglade2-0 (>= 1:2.4.2-2), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libgnome-keyring0 (>= 0.4.0), libgnome2-0 (>= 2.8.0), ... |
| 06:28.32 | ShaunDC | sep: problem is i need to retain the mbr |
| 06:28.39 | ShaunDC | because the disk is bootable |
| 06:28.40 | sep | ShaunDC: so backup that also |
| 06:28.45 | Guerin | ShaunDC: why? just make another one. |
| 06:28.46 | valdyn | damn, truncated |
| 06:28.50 | ShaunDC | how, it's a floppy |
| 06:29.07 | karsten | ShaunDC: dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 of=<outfile> |
| 06:29.10 | jm_ | ShaunDC: modifying partition table doesn't mean MBR gets touched, at least if fdisk has no nasty bugs |
| 06:29.10 | Guerin | ShaunDC: oh, the image is better then |
| 06:29.15 | jetscreamer | ShaunDC: fdisk /mbr restores windows mbr's |
| 06:29.16 | karsten | ShaunDC: ...s/hda/fd0/ |
| 06:29.19 | kooldeb | Guerin: 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM (ICH4) Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 01) |
| 06:29.27 | karsten | jetscreamer: apt-cache show ms-sys |
| 06:29.38 | jetscreamer | no |
| 06:29.42 | jetscreamer | i don't want to |
| 06:29.51 | karsten | jetscreamer: Description: Write a Microsoft compatible boot record |
| 06:29.51 | alkalineX | sarge is a devel package eh? |
| 06:29.57 | ShaunDC | basically i'm creating a initrd image for memdisk so i can boot this disk via PXE, the problem is that i need to make this partition alittle bigger... i created a new fs with dd but it's not bootable... |
| 06:29.58 | ideal | Can/May I upgrade libc6 to 2.3.2.ds1-21 from 2.3.2.ds1-20? |
| 06:30.06 | jetscreamer | ah that |
| 06:30.14 | jetscreamer | i read the description once |
| 06:30.14 | ShaunDC | obviously i cant just boot msdos and fdisk, sys or whatever it. |
| 06:30.17 | karsten | ideal: Only if you say "Please". |
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| 06:30.24 | jetscreamer | why can't you |
| 06:30.28 | valdyn | ideal: why should you not be able? |
| 06:30.29 | ShaunDC | because it's a image |
| 06:30.31 | ShaunDC | not a disk |
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| 06:30.45 | jetscreamer | ok... |
| 06:30.45 | mwilson | Hm, gtk2-engines-smooth deps on the 2.10 version of libatk as well. Guess I'm not upgrading this box tonight. :) |
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| 06:30.58 | karsten | ShaunDC: The MBR is the first 512 bytes of whatever binary data representation you have. |
| 06:31.05 | ShaunDC | ok |
| 06:31.06 | valdyn | mwilson: either you have different sources than I do, or my apt-get is broken |
| 06:31.15 | jetscreamer | ahh libatk... i saw that earlier, it wouldn't upgrade |
| 06:31.17 | ideal | It seems many dependency on libc6, so dangerous:) |
| 06:31.23 | karsten | ShaunDC: ms-sys is a Debian package to create a DOS/MSFT MBR, FYI. |
| 06:31.33 | kooldeb | Guerin: you received it ? |
| 06:31.38 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: oh, that sounds like someone was stupid and building the i386 packages with experimental packages intalled. |
| 06:31.46 | dondelelcaro | !maint gtk2-engines-smooth |
| 06:31.49 | dpkg | gtk2-engines-smooth: Ross Burton <ross@debian.org> |
| 06:31.54 | karsten | ideal: Yes. There are. If it's a standard system upgrade, and it's suggesting the upgrade, sure. If you're messing with stuff, suggest you think carefully. |
| 06:31.59 | alkalineX | upgrading to sarge atm.. |
| 06:32.03 | ShaunDC | karsten: ok so then i could..... |
| 06:32.20 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: <shrug> I'm not going to die if I can't update this unstable box tonight... or this week. |
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| 06:32.33 | ideal | Thanks, karsten. I'll make a try. |
| 06:33.06 | ShaunDC | dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 of=floppy.mbr; dd if=/dev/zero of=2mb.img count=1 bs=1M seek=2; dd if=floppy.mbr of=2mb.img... |
| 06:33.12 | ShaunDC | then mount it and copy the files in? |
| 06:33.15 | alkalineX | any of you use limewire on debian? |
| 06:33.21 | deadcat | alkalineX: yes. |
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| 06:33.29 | jm_ | ShaunDC: /dev/hda is not a floppy |
| 06:33.36 | ShaunDC | whoops |
| 06:33.37 | Guerin | kooldeb: there's nothing which jumps out at me. |
| 06:33.38 | ShaunDC | fd0 :) |
| 06:33.39 | ShaunDC | sorry |
| 06:33.41 | ShaunDC | copy/paste |
| 06:33.51 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: hrm.. which version of gtk2-engines-smooth is it trying to install? |
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| 06:34.09 | Guerin | kooldeb: try just building all the generic ones in. |
| 06:34.21 | Guerin | kooldeb: or google around to find what module that uses |
| 06:34.21 | alkalineX | btw, should i reboot it after upgrading? |
| 06:34.22 | valdyn | mwilson: looks from here like you have experimental sources |
| 06:34.27 | Guerin | alkalineX: nope |
| 06:34.29 | jm_ | ShaunDC: well it's not that simple |
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| 06:34.32 | mwilson | valdyn: You'd be wrong. |
| 06:34.33 | Guerin | alkalineX: only if you change kernels |
| 06:34.35 | mwilson | gtk2-engines-smooth: |
| 06:34.35 | mwilson | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.35 | mwilson | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.50 | mwilson | valdyn: I have no use for experimental. |
| 06:34.55 | valdyn | !info gtk2-engines-smooth sid |
| 06:34.58 | dpkg | gtk2-engines-smooth: (Smooth Engine for GTK+ 2.x), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.6.0.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 224 kB |
| 06:35.08 | valdyn | mwilson: ^^^ |
| 06:35.09 | alkalineX | man, i really need to get better at linux, i suck ass |
| 06:35.17 | Guerin | alkalineX: pmp |
| 06:35.18 | mwilson | <shrug> The 'bot is behind. |
| 06:35.30 | kooldeb | Guerin: where would that be for IDE under menuconfig |
| 06:35.36 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: hrm... that's really wierd. The -2 I have only depends on libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0) |
| 06:35.40 | mwilson | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=gtk2-engines-smooth |
| 06:35.40 | Guerin | kooldeb: ide block devices |
| 06:35.42 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: which arch is that? |
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| 06:36.10 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: i386 |
| 06:36.42 | alkalineX | is emulating linux under windows a bad thing to start learning it? |
| 06:36.49 | mike | hi, how can i check whether my mail server is an open relay? |
| 06:36.55 | mwilson | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/gtk2-engines-smooth <-- says i386 deps on v1.9.0 or greater of libatk. |
| 06:37.01 | dondelelcaro | alkalineX: better to have a real live linux box, but you could get started that way, I guess... |
| 06:37.15 | alkalineX | im also using samba currently to access drives on win |
| 06:37.18 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: ah... yeah, that's probably it. |
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| 06:37.28 | alkalineX | mounting them and stuff |
| 06:37.40 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: maintainer stupidity |
| 06:37.42 | Guerin | alkalineX: better to just run it naked. The windows and emulation thing not only makes it slow and potentially unstable, but adds a whole lot of unknown variables into the mix |
| 06:38.03 | alkalineX | tru |
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| 06:38.31 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: Like I said, not a big deal... unlike most unstable users, I'll hardly die if I can't update the box this week. |
| 06:38.52 | directhex | alkalineX, it'd be slow, under vmware/vpc |
| 06:38.54 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: yeah... but at least I have a handle on what the issue is... was evince doing that too? |
| 06:38.55 | alkalineX | atleast i got far enough to get kde running with vnc |
| 06:39.06 | directhex | alkalineX, and you may face some issues over graphics or networking |
| 06:39.11 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.21 | directhex | alkalineX, i couldn't install linspire 5 in vmware, for example |
| 06:39.43 | Guerin | mike: telnet relay-test.mail-abuse.org |
| 06:39.44 | dondelelcaro | !info libatk1.0.0 experimental |
| 06:39.45 | Moonscope | thanks again to all you wonderful ppl that helped me |
| 06:39.46 | Moonscope | cya |
| 06:39.47 | alkalineX | 2.1ghz amd with 512mb, and 128 mb given to colinux |
| 06:39.48 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: evince wants several Gnome 2.10 libraries, but I didn't bother tracking down the dependency chain to figure out why. I was surprised the thing was even still installed. |
| 06:39.54 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: heh |
| 06:40.03 | dondelelcaro | !info libatk1.0 experimental |
| 06:40.10 | dondelelcaro | !info libatk1.0-0 experimental |
| 06:40.14 | dpkg | libatk1.0-0: (The ATK accessibility toolkit), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.9.0-1 (experimental), Packaged size: 66 kB, Installed size: 200 kB |
| 06:40.22 | dondelelcaro | yerp |
| 06:40.23 | mwilson | I don't use it, it's pretty much worthless anyway, why keep it? |
| 06:40.43 | Guerin | jetscreamer: tfm will know |
| 06:40.46 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: heh. I've no clue what it even is. |
| 06:40.48 | cafuego | cola flavoured cafuego |
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| 06:41.24 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: Gnome's latest "gee, we can't make a PDF viewer that doesn't suck, so let's write a whole new one instead" application. |
| 06:41.46 | Gnea | hrm |
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| 06:42.27 | jetscreamer | i read tfm earlier, but don't remember the answer :) |
| 06:42.33 | Guerin | hrm, I've figured out where to change all the ion3 fonts except the one which controls the statusbar at the bottom |
| 06:42.41 | Gnea | ok |
| 06:42.47 | Gnea | my new addiction starts now. |
| 06:42.50 | budluva | is there any other way besides fdisk to format a harddrive that has 4 partitions on it already? i want to clear all partions and mount the whole 40gig hdd as /storage, but is fdisk the only way? |
| 06:42.51 | Gnea | green tea. |
| 06:43.14 | alkalineX | debconf... is it better to just leave it as dialog? |
| 06:43.25 | directhex | probably |
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| 06:43.40 | directhex | i have gnome set, since it falls backt o dialog if i'm x-less anyway |
| 06:43.44 | XennTest | hmm |
| 06:43.53 | Gnea | budluva: well there's always cfdisk |
| 06:44.03 | Gnea | budluva: what's wrong with fdisk? |
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| 06:46.09 | positri1 | does anyone know where to get more kernel modules from? |
| 06:46.15 | jetscreamer | i've deleted a partition repartitioned it(same size) did mke2fs -j blah and still could access data from before |
| 06:46.30 | directhex | eh? kernel modules for what? |
| 06:46.56 | positri1 | im trying to get toshutils working, but i dont have the toshiba kernel module |
| 06:47.10 | Gnea | toshiba? |
| 06:47.25 | Gnea | oh, for a laptop? |
| 06:47.27 | positri1 | yes |
| 06:47.42 | Gnea | positri1: what kernel is that? |
| 06:47.44 | valdyn | positri1: modprobe toshiba_acpi |
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| 06:48.12 | kooldeb | Guerin: thanks |
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| 06:48.20 | positri1 | valdyn: i tried that, but this is an older laptop, so it doens't have acpi, only apm |
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| 06:48.49 | directhex | modprobe toshiba |
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| 06:49.02 | jetscreamer | or toshiba* |
| 06:49.07 | directhex | /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686-smp/kernel/drivers/char/toshiba.ko |
| 06:49.32 | Gnea | positri1: cat /proc/version |
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| 06:50.43 | Solet | W00T@ |
| 06:50.51 | positri1 | Gnea: version 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 06:50.53 | Solet | finally got that mother fucking wifi card working |
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| 06:51.20 | directhex | /lib/modules/2.4.27-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/char/toshiba.o |
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| 06:51.36 | directhex | Solet, wifi? FSVO "working" presumably |
| 06:51.39 | positri1 | directhex: i dont have the module |
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| 06:52.06 | aliumaik | We can kill ghost connections by /msg nickop kill right? |
| 06:52.16 | jm_ | nickserv, not nickop |
| 06:52.28 | positri1 | directhex: where could i get it? ...hmmm |
| 06:52.39 | aliumaik | nickserv says no command kill |
| 06:52.53 | liable | aliumaik: remus.cs? |
| 06:52.54 | jetscreamer | toshiba.com maybe |
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| 06:53.08 | aliumaik | aah its GHOSt |
| 06:53.19 | directhex | positri1, dump -386 |
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| 06:53.24 | aliumaik | liable: ? |
| 06:53.26 | directhex | positri1, you don't HAVE a 386 do you? |
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| 06:53.55 | positri1 | directhex:p III |
| 06:54.05 | directhex | positri1, so use -686, which has the module |
| 06:54.28 | positri1 | directhex: where would i get it? |
| 06:54.30 | liable | aliumaik: never mind, thought you were talking about the remus.cs.purdue.edu tards that keep joining and quitting |
| 06:55.02 | directhex | positri1, by typing "apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686" |
| 06:55.03 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search kernel-image, pick one, apt-get install it |
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| 06:58.01 | thattoo | Ah, finally found an IRC client that saves logs without expecting me to read for ten hours to find out how. |
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| 06:58.16 | mike | what would be the best way to ssh? we can't set a gateway and only have a http proxy at hand. is there a web client or something similar that we could connect to? |
| 06:58.25 | Solet | directhex: FSVO???? |
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| 06:58.59 | thattoo | I need to try one more time to get practical suggestions here instead of a lecture on my personal shortcomings. |
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| 06:59.21 | KerPlunk | lg-issue14 - Issue 14 of the Linux Gazette. |
| 06:59.21 | KerPlunk | lg-issue15 - Issue 15 of the Linux Gazette |
| 06:59.26 | KerPlunk | Are those magazines? |
| 06:59.30 | KerPlunk | You can apt-get magazines? |
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| 07:00.24 | directhex | !tell KerPlunk about porn-get |
| 07:00.32 | aliumalik | whats up with these purdue guys? |
| 07:00.34 | jm_ | mike: httptunnel maybe? |
| 07:00.58 | thattoo | My 120-megabyte root partition is almost full--not because I am a naughty child with bad habits (I'm in my forties, thank you), but, as I have already explained clearly, because some apps have been storing data in the /root home directory. I need to know, soon, what's safe to move to another partition. |
| 07:01.16 | nagual | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.48 | aliumalik | LOL |
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| 07:02.04 | foo | Any quick way to get java working under firefox in debian? |
| 07:02.17 | jm_ | foo: apt-get install java-package, man make-jpkg |
| 07:02.35 | foo | gocha |
| 07:02.44 | empty_mind | what this error means "configure: error: Couldn't find the XInput library"; which libraries am i missing. I am trying to compile GOK |
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| 07:03.00 | jetscreamer | xlib-dev maybe i dunno |
| 07:03.06 | budluva | if my dvdwriter is being recognized as ide-cd would that effect my burn speeds and why i cant burn over 4x? isnt my burner supposed to be ide-scsi? |
| 07:03.08 | jetscreamer | xlibs- |
| 07:03.11 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 07:03.26 | Solet | hey my wireless card connects to the router and everything is working fine but when i vew my router's page and look @ dhcp clients, the computer name isnt reported... all i see is a blank space where i should see the computer's name |
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| 07:03.39 | foo | E: Couldn't find package java-package |
| 07:03.43 | foo | jm_: ^^ |
| 07:03.51 | jetscreamer | !jp |
| 07:03.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, jp is Japan |
| 07:03.54 | jetscreamer | lies |
| 07:04.00 | jetscreamer | !java-package |
| 07:04.00 | dpkg | well, java-package is the new name for mpkg-j2se... err, I mean j2se-package... DAMN IT, CAN'T THEY PICK A NAME?! Anyway, it lets you build a .deb file from Sun's non-free upstream Java distributions. See "man make-jpkg". Cf. "make-kpkg" (from kernel-package).only in sarge and sid currently, but it's a -all package, so it's safe to use it in woody. This packages lives in 'contrib', so make sure you have that in your sources.list. |
| 07:04.07 | jm_ | foo: it's in Sarge and sid, but not in Woody |
| 07:04.16 | foo | I got sarge, hmm |
| 07:04.21 | jm_ | foo: ohh and it's in contrib, so fix your sources.list |
| 07:04.40 | directhex | !non-free sources |
| 07:04.40 | dpkg | from memory, non-free sources is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then apt-get update |
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| 07:05.51 | foo | debian:/home/notix# cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep contrib |
| 07:05.51 | foo | debian:/home/notix# |
| 07:05.56 | foo | Guess I don't have it |
| 07:06.06 | jetscreamer | put it |
| 07:06.06 | Solet | omg... http://www.google.com/search?q=search+the+web google isnt the first in the list... |
| 07:06.15 | mike | also, can i see the queued emails in postfix? |
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| 07:07.26 | thattoo | I have about 3 megabytes of free space on the / partition now. Most of the apps that left data under /root did so one of two occasions last fall when I ran X as root (WITHOUT being a naughty modem-dialing child in need of a tongue-lashing, thank you). I need to know what's safe to move to another partition. |
| 07:07.45 | mike | 3 mb??!!? |
| 07:07.51 | mike | whoa |
| 07:07.52 | thattoo | Yes, 3 mb. |
| 07:08.05 | jm_ | well go check what those files are and then move them if needed |
| 07:08.10 | tico | how can i change a user password?? |
| 07:08.15 | dondelelcaro | tico: with passwd |
| 07:08.21 | jetscreamer | delete everything except .bash_profile and .bashrc iirc |
| 07:08.22 | ApEtc | tico: passwd |
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| 07:08.27 | jetscreamer | /root/blah |
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| 07:08.36 | tico | but that will change my password |
| 07:08.45 | jm_ | tico: man passwd |
| 07:08.46 | jetscreamer | tico man it then |
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| 07:08.56 | budluva | anyone know if ide-scsi works with 2.6.8-2? |
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| 07:09.24 | jetscreamer | no scsi is deprecated, you're to use the rll driver |
| 07:09.25 | thattoo | That's what I need to know, jm_: what's safe to move, and what needs to stay on the / partition (which is only 120 megabytes--twice as big as the installation manual I'd read had suggested). |
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| 07:09.42 | jetscreamer | that's RLL |
| 07:10.13 | dondelelcaro | thattoo: the only things that have to be on / are /etc, /bin, /lib, and /sbin. Everything else can go elsewhere. |
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| 07:10.15 | streuner | budluva: it works fine |
| 07:10.22 | jm_ | thattoo: aren't we talking about moving only stuff from /root? |
| 07:10.24 | benjamindees | I'm getting irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } on my cdrw drive. Anyone else seeing this? |
| 07:10.25 | jetscreamer | lies.. (but whose?) |
| 07:10.27 | EmleyMoor | I have a system with sarge, and grub as the bootloader. I want to boot a different OS at next reboot, and revert to the default for subsequent reboots, remotely. Is it reasonably easy/possible? |
| 07:10.37 | sparr_ | ive got a game that 'captures' my mouse and keyboard. how can i force it to lose focus so i can manipulate other windows while its running? |
| 07:10.43 | jm_ | EmleyMoor: yes, info grub |
| 07:10.49 | Phated | sparr_: Pause it an alt-tab? |
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| 07:11.29 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: yes you can |
| 07:11.32 | tico | thanx |
| 07:11.34 | EmleyMoor | Under what section of info grub? |
| 07:11.36 | tico | I change it |
| 07:11.42 | deadcat | i am trying to make my input box for my page focus when i load. but its not working. i borrowed codes from google.com/index.html |
| 07:11.45 | thattoo | Thanks, dondelelcaro. So, I don't need to worry about not having /root on that partition when booting in single-user mode? |
| 07:11.51 | dondelelcaro | thattoo: no. |
| 07:11.52 | jm_ | Booting -> Making your system more robust - just read all of it anyway |
| 07:12.01 | Solet | how do i set wlan0 to my primary nic? |
| 07:12.01 | dondelelcaro | thattoo: /root is pretty much pointless. |
| 07:12.09 | dondelelcaro | Solet: there's no such thing. |
| 07:12.10 | jetscreamer | info and man for grub are like kinda lacking aren't they... there's more in /usr/share/doc/grub |
| 07:12.23 | jm_ | no they aren't lacking |
| 07:12.31 | deadcat | Solet: rephrase your q |
| 07:12.31 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: which OS are you trying to dual boot with? |
| 07:12.52 | Solet | ok yes there is i'm looking at it... but anyway... let me rephrase so i can get an answer: |
| 07:12.56 | sparr_ | Phated: duh. no. |
| 07:13.01 | EmleyMoor | aliumalik: Windows XP |
| 07:13.02 | Solet | how do i set eth1 to my primary nic? |
| 07:13.15 | jetscreamer | ok not as verbose as man lilo then |
| 07:13.17 | aliumalik | And you have both installed right now? |
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| 07:13.28 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
| 07:13.28 | deadcat | Solet: still not clear enough |
| 07:13.31 | Phated | sparr_: <shrug> Check the configs and see if you can change the behaviour of capturing the mouse/kb. |
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| 07:13.42 | jm_ | yes, well GRUB has its documentation in info pages, unlike lilo |
| 07:13.52 | sparr_ | Phated: no, i cant. i need to find something that can intercept a key combo before the game gets it |
| 07:13.53 | jetscreamer | i did info grub |
| 07:14.10 | Solet | deadcat: when i boot, it starts trying to look for a router with eth0, eth0 isnt what i use anymore, i want it to look with wlan0 instead |
| 07:14.14 | jetscreamer | same as man grub |
| 07:14.27 | jm_ | that would be because you don't have grub-doc installed |
| 07:14.43 | Phated | sparr_: Which game? |
| 07:14.49 | deadcat | Solet: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:14.50 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: google for "Windows XP Debain" there are tons of guides on this |
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| 07:15.09 | deadcat | Solet: just disable eth0 or whatever and enable wlan0 |
| 07:15.12 | liable | Solet: uncomment the auto line for eth0 |
| 07:15.21 | sparr_ | Phated: Cube |
| 07:15.34 | jetscreamer | !jm_++ |
| 07:15.55 | Phated | sparr_: Sorry. Out of ideas. |
| 07:16.01 | simonrvn | @lart cron.daily |
| 07:16.06 | jm_ | jetscreamer: it's mentioned in README.Debian/gz :) |
| 07:16.10 | jm_ | .gz that is |
| 07:16.19 | simonrvn | @lart jm_ |
| 07:16.24 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 07:16.25 | jm_ | hehe |
| 07:16.29 | simonrvn | :) |
| 07:16.32 | aliumalik | Anyone know a complete front end for setting up iptables/firewall? I am a complete noob in this region |
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| 07:17.02 | liable | aliumalik: guarddog, firestarter |
| 07:17.02 | Solet | deadcat: thank you |
| 07:17.04 | DDRP | Firestarter? |
| 07:17.05 | jetscreamer | aliumalik: lokkit for a quickie untill you know more |
| 07:17.14 | jetscreamer | a VERY quickie |
| 07:17.17 | simonrvn | shorewall, ferm, firehol, ipmasq (?), .... |
| 07:17.29 | aliumalik | aah...I just wanna get a webserver up |
| 07:17.45 | aliumalik | After I have setup the firewall how can I port scan it? |
| 07:17.47 | Solet | deadcat: do you know why the host name of my computer isnt showing up on my router's 'view dhcp' page? |
| 07:17.59 | simonrvn | karsten: it would error out, nyah ;p |
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| 07:18.06 | deadcat | Solet: because its not a fucking windows box |
| 07:18.23 | simonrvn | hdparm -tT /dev/hda |
| 07:18.23 | simonrvn | /dev/hda: No such device or address |
| 07:18.26 | Solet | oh, linux doesnt report with 'names'? |
| 07:18.41 | karsten | simonrvn: Feh. |
| 07:18.52 | karsten | simonrvn: Run standard hardware, damnit! |
| 07:18.52 | simonrvn | haha :) |
| 07:19.01 | simonrvn | no, i won't :) |
| 07:19.09 | karsten | simonrvn: What is ppc naming convention? |
| 07:19.23 | Solet | deadcat: if linux doesnt report to the router with a host name, why did it ask me for a name when i installed the os? |
| 07:19.23 | jm_ | kras;it's probably SCSI, that's why |
| 07:19.26 | simonrvn | oldworld PPCs often run scsi |
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| 07:19.33 | EmleyMoor | aliumalik: I have googled - how far down is a relevant entry? |
| 07:20.00 | deadcat | Solet: thats for when you type hostname or someshit. |
| 07:20.04 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: I'll get you an exact link..brb |
| 07:20.05 | jetscreamer | so you could have a hostname |
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| 07:21.35 | Solet | jetscreamer: whats the point of having a hostname if it doesnt report it to the router? |
| 07:21.46 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: http://www.devhood.com/tutorials/tutorial_details.aspx?tutorial_id=405 |
| 07:22.08 | jetscreamer | does your router require it to have one? |
| 07:22.12 | Solet | no |
| 07:22.25 | Solet | but it makes setting static dhcp much easier |
| 07:22.59 | ia3264 | what are 3 of the best linux sites for info/news/downloads |
| 07:23.03 | jm_ | that's what MAC addresses are used for |
| 07:23.03 | jetscreamer | ok so probably you need to open up a port or two but i'm just guessing... and don't know if you would really want to |
| 07:23.03 | kooldeb | when doing an rm -rf to some file which does not exist in the first place, why does not the system notify the user that the file does not exist indeed ? |
| 07:23.04 | benjamindees | Solet, for internal use; you can setup your dhcp client with a specific hostname |
| 07:23.18 | simonrvn | jm_: duh ;) |
| 07:23.25 | EmleyMoor | aliumalik: Where does it say how to boot into it "just this once"? |
| 07:23.36 | dondelelcaro | ia3264: uh... lwn and your local Debian mirror. |
| 07:23.50 | Solet | benjamindees: how? |
| 07:23.53 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: it will giv you the option toselect the OS at evry boot |
| 07:24.05 | thattoo | jm_, yes, if I can safely make room by moving the whole /root directory off that partition, the problem's gone. The /root directory was my first guess at what to move, because I saw a couple of big files there that didn't seem to need to be on that partition (like an 8-megabyte text file that listed hundreds of printers I don't own). |
| 07:24.15 | EmleyMoor | I am 15 miles from the machine and cannot, therefore, select |
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| 07:24.48 | benjamindees | Solet, /etc/dhclient.conf for instance |
| 07:24.54 | dondelelcaro | EmleyMoor: lilo -R ? |
| 07:24.57 | jetscreamer | on a fresh install, all that is in /root is .bashrc and .bash_profile i think... .bash_something, so if you leave .bash* you're good to go |
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| 07:25.02 | roo9 | is there a way to view hashses (md5/sha1) for the files in a deb? |
| 07:25.07 | jm_ | thattoo: you could also probably remove lots of cruft ;) |
| 07:25.10 | EmleyMoor | dondelelcaro: It's grub |
| 07:25.14 | dondelelcaro | EmleyMoor: ah |
| 07:25.25 | jetscreamer | now i want a coke dammit |
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| 07:25.34 | jm_ | roo9: some packages have them in descriptions, some have *.md5sum files |
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| 07:25.47 | jm_ | it's mentioned in GRUB docs, but he's refusing to read |
| 07:25.51 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: What exactly do you want to do? |
| 07:26.07 | jm_ | *.md5sums, not *.md5sum |
| 07:26.10 | streuner | roo9: so you think the deb is ok, but the files in the deb aren't ? :-) |
| 07:26.11 | EmleyMoor | I'm not refusing, I'm just not comprehending |
| 07:26.11 | Solet | benjamindees: how do i figure out what dhcp client i have and where its .conf file is? |
| 07:26.21 | jm_ | did you read the section I pointed you at? |
| 07:26.27 | EmleyMoor | aliumalik: Remotely boot Windows XP once only |
| 07:26.51 | EmleyMoor | jm_: Yes - having trouble relating it to my setup though |
| 07:26.57 | jm_ | EmleyMoor: which part? |
| 07:27.16 | roo9 | streuner, jm_: actually, i'm preforming a forensic analysis on a system that was hacked, i'm attempting to determine what system binaries were modified |
| 07:27.19 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: so make XP the default in Grub and reboot |
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| 07:27.26 | benjamindees | Solet, dhcp -l dhcp* |
| 07:27.29 | jm_ | roo9: no debsums installed? |
| 07:27.33 | benjamindees | Solet, dpkg -l dhcp* |
| 07:27.35 | benjamindees | Solet, oops |
| 07:27.45 | lehel | my "run" command is missing |
| 07:27.47 | EmleyMoor | aliumalik: And then, when I reboot again, I get XP again |
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| 07:27.58 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: but fr getting back on linux you'l have to be on the comp |
| 07:28.04 | roo9 | jm_: debsums ? |
| 07:28.06 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: exactly |
| 07:28.11 | EmleyMoor | jm_: The part where it starts "default saved" |
| 07:28.11 | jm_ | roo9: yes, apt-cache show debsums |
| 07:28.25 | jm_ | EmleyMoor: it's explained bellow the config file snippet |
| 07:28.35 | roo9 | jm_: i see it now, lemme check it out, thanks. |
| 07:28.41 | aliumalik | EmleyMoor: I cannot think of any other way...it would;ve helped if the linux partition was vfat |
| 07:28.44 | EmleyMoor | I have "default 0" - if I use the grub shell to change the default, will it revert to entry 0 at the next reboot? |
| 07:29.11 | lehel | i'm using Debian for 3 days! the "run" command is missing! why? |
| 07:29.31 | jm_ | you should change it in config file or using grub-set-default |
| 07:29.35 | aliumalik | lehel: It appears on the 4th day |
| 07:29.36 | aliumalik | :D |
| 07:29.41 | roo9 | jm_ that's exactly what i needed, thanks alot |
| 07:29.41 | Solet | ummm package ;dhcp*; is not installed... and i think that craig's acx100 page said that dhcp clients would fuckup his script anyway... |
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| 07:30.18 | jm_ | and it has to be saved, otherwise it will boot entry 0 again |
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| 07:30.26 | lehel | aliumalik: i downloaded a *tar.gz file, i extracted!.. how 2 install? |
| 07:30.38 | EmleyMoor | jm_: OK - so if I don't save, I get what I choose, once only, then entry 0 again? |
| 07:31.04 | aliumalik | lehel: if its a source pckage compile it... |
| 07:31.06 | thattoo | jm_, karsten had said earlier that /root has to stay there on the / partition for single-user mode. I'm looking for other opinions. No one else here seemed to be concerned about that issue, but my ISP disconnected me when people were in the middle of responding here. |
| 07:31.11 | jm_ | EmleyMoor: no, you have to save it if you want to boot back to linux afterwards |
| 07:31.23 | s-toned | The load is >5, though the system is 85% idle -> can I see which processes are responsible for that (maybe in top)? |
| 07:31.27 | lehel | aliumalik: how? |
| 07:31.31 | ia3264 | why does the latest version of debian come with kernel 2.4 instead of 2.6? |
| 07:31.42 | jm_ | thattoo: really? I doubt that, but you can easily test it, but make sure you have some rescue media handy |
| 07:31.46 | benjamindees | ia3264, because 2.6 is unstable |
| 07:31.51 | EmleyMoor | jm_: Erm... this is where I start getting lost |
| 07:31.57 | ia3264 | but i thought only odd numbers are unstable? |
| 07:31.59 | benjamindees | ia3264, it comes with both actually |
| 07:32.01 | ia3264 | like 2.5 |
| 07:32.06 | benjamindees | ia3264, not anymore |
| 07:32.11 | jm_ | EmleyMoor: why? |
| 07:32.12 | ia3264 | weird |
| 07:32.13 | lehel | aliumalik: how 2 compile a pckge? |
| 07:32.24 | aliumalik | lehel: tar -xzvf packagename.tar.gz, CD package name, ./configure, make, make install |
| 07:32.35 | ia3264 | it comes with both? like in my /boot dir? |
| 07:32.38 | EmleyMoor | Does "grub-set-default" change the default in the config? |
| 07:32.41 | thattoo | jm_, I do have rescue media, but how to use them is another question. :o) |
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| 07:32.44 | aliumalik | that is the usual drill though it might differ some time |
| 07:32.59 | benjamindees | ia3264, you can install either one, or both |
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| 07:33.11 | ia3264 | how |
| 07:33.17 | ia3264 | i didnt see an option in the install |
| 07:33.24 | jm_ | thattoo: well all you need is a kernel with proper hadrware support and shell to mount your / and move /root back if needed |
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| 07:33.45 | rj-away | benjamindees: Eh? 2.6 is unstable? Where'd you hear that? |
| 07:33.57 | positri1 | ia3264: there is an option on the install, i remember seeing it (I installed 2 days ago) |
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| 07:34.12 | benjamindees | rj-away, I don't need to hear it; I know it |
| 07:34.19 | roo9 | jm_: ps,ls,netstat,top exactly what i expected |
| 07:34.29 | rj-away | benjamindees: kernel.org seems to claim differently. |
| 07:34.33 | EmleyMoor | benjamindees: Can we have your source, or have you made that up? |
| 07:34.58 | positri1 | probably meant 2.6 is comparitively less stable than 2.4 (which has had longer to work the bugs out) |
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| 07:35.12 | EmleyMoor | 2.6 is "less mature" |
| 07:35.34 | ia3264 | do all linux distros come with 2.4? |
| 07:35.35 | ia3264 | by default |
| 07:35.39 | positri1 | no |
| 07:35.41 | buzzzz | no |
| 07:35.51 | ia3264 | so its just a choice debian guys made ok thanks |
| 07:36.01 | EmleyMoor | ia3264: No - there are or were until recently some that still came with 2.2 |
| 07:36.05 | Solet | whats the package name of the new mozilla that has the builtin ftp client and chatzilla? |
| 07:36.41 | sep | ia3264: debian come with both kernels, so you can choose what you want to use |
| 07:36.42 | ia3264 | i love this channel :) so enlightening |
| 07:36.52 | streuner | true |
| 07:36.54 | benjamindees | EmleyMoor, rj-away, I assumed it was common knowledge. There is no longer a even/odd stable/devel branch of Linux... |
| 07:36.56 | sep | benjamindees: or are you talking about this thing ??? http://digg.com/linux_unix/Revamped_Linux_Kernel_Numbering_Concluded |
| 07:36.59 | streuner | Solet: /msg dpkg search |
| 07:37.02 | EmleyMoor | Does grub-set-default change the default in the menu.lst? |
| 07:37.04 | Solet | is it just the package 'mozilla'? or is there a different one for the full suit |
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| 07:37.33 | jm_ | roo9: rootkit? |
| 07:37.33 | EmleyMoor | bejamindees: Only because they haven't started it yet... there was a period when the last devel was a 2.3 and stable was 2.4 |
| 07:37.48 | jm_ | roo9: there's also chkrootkit |
| 07:37.50 | thattoo | jm_, thanks. It's very simple advice, but simple things like that are escaping me under these circumstances. :o) Maybe, what I should try first (because I'd better do something soon) is just finding that one directory with the 8-megabyte text file again and moving just that printer app's directory out of /root and replacing it with a symlink for now, until I calm down. :o) What do you think? |
| 07:37.51 | sep | benjamindees: but it dosnt mean that all 2.6.x.y are unstable, it just means you'll have 2.6.x.y-rcz, released 2.6.x kernels are still considered stable, maybee less stable then 2.4 but still |
| 07:37.53 | rj-away | benjamindees: *shrug* It's not that kernel.org doesn't state whether 2.6 is stable or unstable, it explicitly says 'The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.11.7'. |
| 07:38.08 | roo9 | jm_: that's next |
| 07:38.13 | liable | EmleyMoor: theres a chroot install howto or debootstrap howto that says how to do what you want, but I cant find it |
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| 07:38.30 | EmleyMoor | 2.7 hasn't yet been started |
| 07:38.44 | streuner | liable: its in ig |
| 07:38.46 | benjamindees | sep, same difference |
| 07:38.58 | sep | !chroot install |
| 07:38.58 | dpkg | i heard chroot install is http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/DebianChrootInstall |
| 07:39.05 | jm_ | thattoo: I would first find files that you don't need and delete them, then check where the most space is used : cd / && du -skc * | sort -n, you can continue with this approach in other dirs and find the big ones and then look at the files and see if you can delete it |
| 07:39.13 | simonrvn | they changed the release policy for 2.6 |
| 07:39.19 | simonrvn | @kernel |
| 07:39.21 | budluva | ok im having problems mounting a second hard drive, /dev/hdd, i cleared the partition table in fdisk, and created a new extended partition with a logical partition inside it, so the whole harddrive (40gb) should be 1 partition, when i go to mount /dev/hdd5 /storage i get a wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd5, missing codepage or other error, what am i doing wrong? i've tried changing the fstype in fstab from ext2 and |
| 07:39.22 | budluva | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.29 | ravenbird | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.11.7, prepatch: 2.6.12-rc3, 2.4: 2.4.30, prepatch: 2.4.31-pre1, snapshot: 2.4.31-pre1-bk1, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 |
| 07:39.35 | benjamindees | and Linus has said that distros have to sabilize their kernels themselves anyways |
| 07:39.36 | EmleyMoor | simonrvn: OK - where is the release policy? |
| 07:39.43 | simonrvn | lkml |
| 07:39.44 | jm_ | budluva: did you mkfs it? |
| 07:39.53 | budluva | jm_, no, i was not aware of that |
| 07:39.58 | EmleyMoor | "lkml"... well, I'm not on that |
| 07:40.13 | karsten | budluva: fdisk -l /dev/hdd |
| 07:40.15 | simonrvn | you can browse and search through any number of sites... |
| 07:40.23 | streuner | liable: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 07:40.24 | foo | I downloaded j2re 5 and have a /jre1.5.0_03 folder. How do I install from here? On debian |
| 07:40.28 | karsten | budluva: ...yeah, creating an FS helps. |
| 07:40.31 | jm_ | budluva: well you have to create the file system before mounting it |
| 07:40.41 | jm_ | foo: man make-jpkg |
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| 07:40.49 | budluva | well i thought fdisk did that when i created an extended and logical partition, my bad |
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| 07:41.08 | simonrvn | no, it doesn't. this is't winbloze |
| 07:41.12 | simonrvn | isn't* |
| 07:41.15 | foo | debian:/home/notix# man make-jpkg |
| 07:41.15 | foo | No manual entry for make-jpkg |
| 07:41.18 | foo | jm_: ^ |
| 07:41.30 | karsten | EmleyMoor: The official chroot install instructions are in the Debian Installation Manual (woody or sarge). The factoid is my own notes, slighly different. |
| 07:41.37 | jm_ | foo: did you install java-package? |
| 07:41.38 | ircdevil | what is a good tool to flip through a stack of images deleting the bad ones and rotating portraits and so on? feh doenst have quickkeys ... |
| 07:41.39 | sep | simonrvn: budluva: even on windows you have to format the partition, after you'v partitioned the disk. |
| 07:41.44 | liable | streuner: looking |
| 07:41.48 | EmleyMoor | karsten: What use is chroot install for me? |
| 07:41.59 | budluva | ya i wasnt thinking, its 2am, sorry |
| 07:42.05 | benjamindees | EmleyMoor, and there are no plans to "start" 2.7; and no I'm not "making this up" :s |
| 07:42.06 | foo | jm_: E: Couldn't find package java-package |
| 07:42.16 | jm_ | foo: we told you what to do |
| 07:42.28 | sep | benjamindees: well that's why we use debian kernel-images isnt it. |
| 07:42.35 | jetscreamer | !info pronview |
| 07:42.44 | budluva | do i have to mkfs the ext partition AND the logical partion, or do i just have to make the logical partition ext2/ext3??? |
| 07:42.48 | karsten | EmleyMoor: Not entirely sure, saw you pointed at it by ... liable. |
| 07:42.57 | jetscreamer | just the one not both |
| 07:43.00 | sep | budluva: only the logical |
| 07:43.03 | benjamindees | sep, and it's why Debian still uses 2.4; which is what I said to begin with :/ |
| 07:43.06 | karsten | budluva: mke2fs /dev/hda5 |
| 07:43.06 | jm_ | ircdevil: tried gthumb? |
| 07:43.13 | karsten | budluva: Logical. |
| 07:43.17 | jetscreamer | !info pornview |
| 07:43.20 | sep | benjamindees: no debian comes with _both_ kernels you choose 2.4 or 2.6 |
| 07:43.22 | budluva | whats the difference between mke2fs and mkfs? |
| 07:43.22 | dpkg | pornview: (Image and movie viewer/manager), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.2pre1-4 (sid), Packaged size: 217 kB, Installed size: 636 kB |
| 07:43.24 | deadcat | gqview is rocking |
| 07:43.25 | foo | jm_: Yeah, I apparelty don't have any contrib entry in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:43.32 | foo | jm_: Where do I go to get that / add appropriate line |
| 07:43.40 | kooldeb | when doing an rm -rf to some file which does not exist in the first place, why does not the system notify the user that the file does not exist? |
| 07:43.42 | jm_ | foo: run apt-setup |
| 07:43.43 | deadcat | pornview is a piece of shit. use gqview |
| 07:43.46 | jetscreamer | !non-free |
| 07:43.46 | dpkg | it has been said that non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianers would rather not use it. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html or tack non-free to the end of your usual "main" source to install stuff like navigator. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib ... |
| 07:43.52 | streuner | budluva: man mke2fs |
| 07:44.06 | ircdevil | jm_ no - i am looking for the latest version of gtksee - but one moment |
| 07:44.18 | karsten | deadcat: Spoken with the voice of *authority*. |
| 07:44.32 | deadcat | amen (= |
| 07:44.46 | jm_ | foo: also do "/msg dpkg non-free sources" |
| 07:44.48 | simonrvn | "authoritay" |
| 07:44.56 | deadcat | hahah |
| 07:45.04 | thattoo | jm_, thanks! EXACTLY what I needed to know! du is the command whose name I couldn't find. |
| 07:45.07 | s-toned | oh, found it myself: pressing i in top toggles the idle processes on/off |
| 07:45.08 | foo | jm_: gocha |
| 07:45.13 | karsten | !seen kooldeb |
| 07:45.14 | dpkg | kooldeb is currently on #debian (2h 36m 23s). Has said a total of 209 messages. Is idling for 1m 34s |
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| 07:45.34 | dopeic | someone here that have playd around with pcmcia memory card before, and can tell me how /dev/mem* works? |
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| 07:45.44 | kooldeb | karsten: :) |
| 07:45.45 | karsten | kooldeb: Because the '-f' basically says "just get on with it and don't bother me with details". |
| 07:45.46 | liable | EmleyMoor: bah, found it, but its for lilo |
| 07:45.59 | foo | jm_: If they don't end with main contrib non-free .. modify the file so it does? |
| 07:46.06 | jm_ | foo: exactly |
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| 07:47.05 | kooldeb | karsten: well I believe it should at least tell the user " hey the file you are trying to force delete does not even exist" instead of returning nothing. |
| 07:47.11 | karsten | kooldeb: Saw my polyglot today, BTW, she said 'hi'. |
| 07:47.28 | karsten | kooldeb: No. '-f' is force. |
| 07:47.34 | foo | jm_: ah, I see. So that told that mirror to get contrib from it? |
| 07:48.03 | karsten | kooldeb: If you want to test existence: test -f file && rm -f file || echo "File not found" |
| 07:48.07 | jm_ | foo: no, it told apt that |
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| 07:48.39 | foo | jm_: ah, ok |
| 07:48.46 | liable | cant you put an alias in .bashrc, to do something like that |
| 07:48.52 | foo | jm_: I can't use jre1.5.0_03 with this, can I? |
| 07:49.01 | jm_ | foo: is it .bin file? |
| 07:49.19 | foo | jm_: yes |
| 07:49.30 | foo | uninstalled a directory with source I believe |
| 07:49.31 | jm_ | foo: yes you can; install java-package and read the afore mentioned man page |
| 07:49.42 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.42 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.45 | kooldeb | karsten: should not that be done automatically for me as part of rm command. |
| 07:49.51 | foo | jm_: yeah, I saw that in the man page.. that's why I questioned |
| 07:49.55 | freewoody | How do I setup a transparent Squid proxy in Debian |
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| 07:50.32 | kooldeb | karsten: to me, trying to remove an unexistent file should give me a notification instead of illuding me that it indeed deleted it |
| 07:50.38 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... how do I invoke grub-set-default? |
| 07:50.42 | karsten | kooldeb: Tell 'rm' anything but '-f', yes. |
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| 07:51.05 | karsten | kooldeb: man rm: -f, --force ignore nonexistent files, never prompt |
| 07:51.05 | kooldeb | karsten: thats the point, -f should not be an exeption |
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| 07:51.12 | karsten | kooldeb: Stop arguing the spec. |
| 07:51.34 | karsten | kooldeb: It's *specified* as an exception. |
| 07:51.41 | karsten | kooldeb: Get over it already. |
| 07:51.58 | DZURISHADAI | hi all i'm kinda having a problem with my pci-express stuff can anyone gimme some help? i can run X but only in frame buffer mode and i can't get my drivers to install correctly it says i need a different kernel config i think |
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| 07:52.02 | kooldeb | karsten: well am just sharing with you that I dont like that spec thats all. am not arguing about anything :) |
| 07:52.16 | liable | kooldeb: try 'rm foo' see what it says |
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| 07:52.31 | karsten | kooldeb: <shrug> |
| 07:52.34 | EmleyMoor | I can't find grub-set-default |
| 07:53.00 | karsten | !tell EmleyMoor about search |
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| 07:53.26 | jm_ | EmleyMoor: it's not in Debian |
| 07:53.30 | kooldeb | liable: agreed, but in my own personal opinion, -f should not be an exeption (well it is in reality) but again, thats my opinion |
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| 07:53.51 | karsten | kooldeb: Enough already. |
| 07:54.06 | EmleyMoor | jm_: Ah... so, now that I have, I think, got this right, I have proceeded into another cul-de-sac... |
| 07:54.13 | kooldeb | karsten: so whats new ? |
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| 07:54.23 | phanter | How can I slow my cpu down? Now it goes until 35%, but I would like to slow it down till 20%? |
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| 07:54.31 | jm_ | EmleyMoor: you can find it on the net, it's a shell script |
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| 07:54.41 | streuner | phanter: run 'top' |
| 07:54.44 | deadcat | panthera: laptop? powernowd |
| 07:55.19 | phanter | laptop yes! I can change it with powerdownd ? |
| 07:55.22 | karsten | kooldeb: What's new is old, what's old is new. |
| 07:55.33 | deadcat | phanter: let me check. |
| 07:56.28 | deadcat | phanter: ya. or theres another program i forgot the name. |
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| 07:56.34 | kooldeb | <-- going bed. night all |
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| 07:57.26 | phanter | hmm I cannot find a man page for powerdownd |
| 07:57.33 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... taking some finding... |
| 07:57.33 | liable | deadcat: ondemand? in kernel, but you dont have to have any daemons for it. tis good |
| 07:57.49 | deadcat | phanter: powernowd not down |
| 07:57.50 | streuner | deadcat: wanna see my 'brandnew' mail checking script in torsmo? :-P |
| 07:58.04 | deadcat | liable: daemon required |
| 07:58.10 | simonrvn | streuner: yes |
| 07:58.11 | phanter | sorry (i!) |
| 07:58.11 | deadcat | streuner: hell ya (= |
| 07:58.16 | liable | deadcat: no |
| 07:58.32 | deadcat | liable: powernowd -q is running on my laptop. |
| 07:58.55 | liable | deadcat: ondemand running on mine, no daemon |
| 07:59.42 | deadcat | liable: oh. cool. but i just install powernowd and let it handle itself. 100% with power adaptor, 50% without. |
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| 08:00.17 | karsten | phanter: File a bug. |
| 08:00.27 | karsten | phanter: Policy requires manpages. |
| 08:00.30 | liable | deadcat: ondemand is sweet, just bumps it up when needed, no configuration |
| 08:00.37 | sketchy | is it possible to set up a VPN to connect to a debian box over port 80? (even though web services are running on port 80) |
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| 08:00.54 | sep | sketchy: one service per port |
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| 08:00.58 | liable | deadcat: except calling it at boot |
| 08:01.13 | phanter | karsten: no I was trying to find something that does not excist (dylectic), There is a man page |
| 08:01.17 | deadcat | liable: when needed? |
| 08:01.19 | karsten | sketchy: LTS. |
| 08:01.22 | deadcat | liable: example |
| 08:01.30 | karsten | phanter: Sure is isn't a mna page? ;-) |
| 08:01.39 | sketchy | karsten: LTS meaning ? |
| 08:01.44 | simonrvn | @lts |
| 08:01.46 | ravenbird | well, lts is Leaning Toothpick Syndrome. |
| 08:01.52 | karsten | phanter: ... dyslexics of the world untie! |
| 08:01.57 | liable | deadcat: when you open something that needs more cpu |
| 08:02.05 | paster | "streuner" at 217.229.216.42 pasted "#!/bin/sh -x status=`fetchmail" (6 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/68 |
| 08:02.08 | karsten | dpkg: lts is also Linux Terminal Server. |
| 08:02.08 | dpkg | okay, karsten |
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| 08:02.19 | karsten | sketchy: ^^ |
| 08:02.28 | simonrvn | @lts is also Linux Terminal Server |
| 08:02.29 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 08:02.38 | deadcat | liable: ah. cool. |
| 08:02.38 | brak | exit |
| 08:02.39 | liable | deadcat: compiling, gimp editing, whatever |
| 08:02.46 | karsten | lts |
| 08:02.46 | sketchy | karsten: heh |
| 08:02.52 | billy | hello! does anyone know where to find a deb for xgfe ( gnuplot front end) thanks |
| 08:02.56 | karsten | !lts |
| 08:02.56 | dpkg | it has been said that lts is Leaning Toothpick Syndrome. Linux Terminal Server. |
| 08:03.01 | deadcat | liable: same with powernowd but since that dont need a daemon. let me look into it |
| 08:03.11 | karsten | simonrvn: ah, training ravenbird. |
| 08:03.12 | simonrvn | @lts |
| 08:03.12 | ravenbird | it has been said that lts is Leaning Toothpick Syndrome.. Linux Terminal Server |
| 08:03.17 | streuner | deadcat: just a short line in .torsmorc - done. |
| 08:03.20 | karsten | !tell billy about search |
| 08:03.28 | liable | deadcat: 2.6.10, have to compile your own, cause its not default |
| 08:03.52 | liable | deadcat: and compile in |
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| 08:04.14 | billy | karsten: thanks |
| 08:04.20 | deadcat | liable: ah. i see. i am on 2.6.11.7 for my ibook. where exactly in the menuconfig? |
| 08:04.22 | karsten | sketchy: Anywho: LTS (not the toothpick) is a way of multiplexing one public-facing server. It _may_ allow multiple services per port, on a named-host basis. |
| 08:04.27 | EmleyMoor | Can't find grub-set-default anywhere... |
| 08:04.33 | karsten | sketchy: ...I've played near, but not with, it. |
| 08:04.36 | deadcat | streuner: not bad. |
| 08:04.39 | liable | deadcat: acpi, one sec |
| 08:04.47 | deadcat | ah |
| 08:04.59 | deadcat | liable: i dont think my ibook has acpi heheh |
| 08:05.04 | sketchy | karsten: reading up about it now .... thanks |
| 08:05.11 | karsten | EmleyMoor: I have a feeling it doesn't exist. Why are you looking for it? |
| 08:05.30 | karsten | sketchy: Partially used for load balancing, partially for shielding servers behing a bastion. |
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| 08:05.47 | EmleyMoor | karsten: Because info grub says it's what I need to use |
| 08:05.49 | liable | deadcat: hmmm, acpi-cpufreq-ondemand gov |
| 08:05.56 | sketchy | partially used because im at uni and i can only get through the proxy here on port 80 .... :P |
| 08:05.58 | liable | deadcat: bugger |
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| 08:06.20 | karsten | EmleyMoor: I suspect it's a wild goose chase. |
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| 08:06.51 | liable | deadcat: how does powernowd work then, how do ya enable cpufreq scaling |
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| 08:07.23 | jetdotnet | ... A new "grub-set-default" utility was added. A new section, entitled "Making |
| 08:07.23 | jetdotnet | your system robust", was added in the manual. Author |
| 08:07.25 | phanter | oke, i read the man page of powernowd, but I dit not read about a config file in which I can configure the process. How can I make it to work between 20%-100% instead of 35%-100%? |
| 08:07.29 | EmleyMoor | If it's mentioned in the docs it must have existed at one time |
| 08:07.29 | deadcat | liable: requires 2.6 kernel. just install and thats it. default uses 50% cpu, when run gimp/mplayer it goes to 100 |
| 08:07.37 | jetdotnet | google it |
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| 08:07.49 | EmleyMoor | jetdotnet: Have. No luck. |
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| 08:08.10 | liable | deadcat: hmmm, does it load modules (just interested) |
| 08:08.12 | jetdotnet | http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub.en.html ? |
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| 08:08.15 | EmleyMoor | There's talk about it but the thing itself is not there |
| 08:08.16 | karsten | EmleyMoor: Can't say I've followed your issue closely. |
| 08:08.45 | deadcat | liable: i dont think so. unless i compiled something into the kernel but not quite sure. ask bob2 when hes in |
| 08:09.03 | karsten | EmleyMoor: What are you trying to do, pray tell? |
| 08:09.44 | EmleyMoor | karsten: Using the "default saved" and "savedefault" features of the grub config files, boot Windows XP once only |
| 08:10.16 | karsten | EmleyMoor: You sure that's not a grub internal command? |
| 08:10.31 | liable | deadcat: hmmm, dunno how it works without acpi |
| 08:10.40 | EmleyMoor | It's an infernal mess whatever it is. I am told it's a shell script |
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| 08:12.40 | karsten | EmleyMoor: Yeah, found it. |
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| 08:13.34 | jetdotnet | seems to be seperate |
| 08:13.49 | jetdotnet | yeh i can't find it quick either |
| 08:13.57 | jetdotnet | just type aobu it |
| 08:14.02 | streuner | liable: what laptop do you have? |
| 08:14.17 | liable | streuner: thinkpad R40 |
| 08:14.19 | karsten | EmleyMoor: Well... It's nowhere on my system (I run grub). It's nowhere in apt-file's cache. And it's not mentioned anywhere in any of the /usr/share/doc/grub files. |
| 08:14.31 | sketchy | exit |
| 08:14.33 | karsten | EmleyMoor: I'd file a bug on grub that grub-set-info is referenced but unavailable. |
| 08:14.56 | karsten | EmleyMoor: I stand corrected. |
| 08:15.08 | karsten | EmleyMoor: News and changelog. |
| 08:15.18 | simonrvn | currently sitting, but we won't digress too much |
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| 08:15.47 | roo9 | ok, i'm doing a forensic analysis on a box, i see a seperate ssh server running on port 512, it has a banner string of "SSH-1.5-Don`t_Even_Think_About", anyone seen anything like that? |
| 08:15.47 | EmleyMoor | karsten: Does it offer any clues? |
| 08:15.49 | liable | EmleyMoor: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/06-2004/10557.html dunno if relevent |
| 08:16.00 | simonrvn | roo9: sounds like rootkit installed it |
| 08:16.06 | karsten | EmleyMoor: It's apparently brand new... |
| 08:16.14 | karsten | 2004-06-20 Yoshinori K. Okuji <okuji@enbug.org> |
| 08:16.18 | karsten | EmleyMoor: ...well, relatively. |
| 08:16.33 | streuner | liable: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ibm.html |
| 08:17.10 | roo9 | simonrvn: yes, it's strange, there is a SSH server running on port 22, the SSH_CONNECTION enviroment variable on that however shows that the user started the port 22 sshd after connecting to the port 512 sshd |
| 08:17.30 | karsten | EmleyMoor: Might poke around GNU's source tree. |
| 08:17.31 | simonrvn | sounds like that sshd exploit |
| 08:17.35 | liable | streuner: hehe, I have my thinkpad running quite well thankyou :) |
| 08:17.42 | roo9 | simonrvn: which? |
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| 08:17.48 | karsten | EmleyMoor: ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/ |
| 08:17.55 | simonrvn | of which there was yet another attempt here |
| 08:18.11 | roo9 | simonrvn: this system was running the latest debian woody |
| 08:18.12 | simonrvn | sshd[XXXXX]: error: Could not get shadow information for NOUSER |
| 08:18.22 | simonrvn | roo9: was it updated at all? |
| 08:18.32 | liable | streuner: what do you think I need, I am not sure I got the point |
| 08:18.38 | roo9 | simonrvn: yes, it was installed < 30 days ago |
| 08:19.11 | streuner | liable: if your laptop running fine, its ok then. |
| 08:19.11 | simonrvn | check the BTS. something's not right. |
| 08:19.24 | liable | streuner: was wondering about deadcats powernowd thing without acpi |
| 08:19.48 | roo9 | simonrvn: i don't see any security updates about sshd this year... |
| 08:20.03 | liable | streuner: what did you think was wrong? |
| 08:20.28 | simonrvn | roo9: check the version, then check mitre.cve.org |
| 08:20.32 | streuner | liable: i don't use a laptop |
| 08:20.35 | liable | streuner: thanks anyway though :-) |
| 08:20.58 | roo9 | simonrvn: Host mitre.cve.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 08:21.13 | simonrvn | could have the host domain flipped, sorry :) |
| 08:21.20 | liable | streuner: its my mail that I need help with :) |
| 08:21.54 | deadcat | anyone uses the pwc driver for webcam? i have trouble patching/compiling it on 2.6.11 |
| 08:21.54 | simonrvn | yeh, i did, sorry |
| 08:22.02 | streuner | liable: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ |
| 08:22.20 | sep | roo9: becouse they run a ssh on 512 dosnt mean that was their way into the system, was the system upgraded on all the latest packages, or was it just installed and forgotten about, and how old was your install media. and was there any non debian packaged software installed. |
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| 08:22.53 | roo9 | sep: it was upgraded, immeditaly after install. which was < 30 days ago. It was not upgraded again. |
| 08:23.07 | roo9 | sep: there was no non-debian software installed |
| 08:23.27 | simonrvn | that was english |
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| 08:23.51 | CaKoRt | hi |
| 08:23.58 | CaKoRt | good morning since spain |
| 08:24.08 | simonrvn | s/since/from/ :) |
| 08:24.12 | CaKoRt | good morning from spain (sorry for |
| 08:24.14 | CaKoRt | xD |
| 08:24.15 | simonrvn | hi |
| 08:24.26 | EmleyMoor | Is there an alternative to grub-set-default? |
| 08:24.44 | CaKoRt | my english teacher is going to kill me if she read this :P |
| 08:24.54 | liable | streuner: thanks, you actually pointed me there before :), seems my head is a bit unwilling to understand the whole mail agents thing at the moment, must have something to do with spending all day on irc |
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| 08:25.20 | karsten | CaKoRt: ...assuming she doesn't die of shame first. |
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| 08:25.27 | sep | xelam: if you dont like my grammar, then you should have seen my handwriting... i have problems understanding it myself... |
| 08:25.47 | simonrvn | sep: tell me about it. i'm left-handed on top of it ;) |
| 08:26.02 | xelam | sep: hmm |
| 08:26.19 | streuner | liable: that was serveral days ago, do you spend the last days your spare time in IRC too? |
| 08:26.35 | sep | simonrvn: well english is my second languare, im actualy norwegian. but alas no #debian.no :) |
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| 08:26.46 | CaKoRt | karsten, maybe :D |
| 08:26.47 | liable | streuner: I unfortunately have. Yes :( |
| 08:26.54 | simonrvn | same here |
| 08:27.00 | streuner | hehe |
| 08:27.10 | simonrvn | (though not norwegian) |
| 08:27.17 | simonrvn | (2nd language) |
| 08:27.38 | CaKoRt | in spanish since/from/by is translated with the same word |
| 08:28.00 | streuner | Read that you lazy ass, before whining about |
| 08:28.07 | liable | streuner: I think I am developing attention deficet syndrome |
| 08:28.37 | liable | and I cant spell either |
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| 08:29.45 | jethro | moin |
| 08:30.57 | sep | roo9: well have you examined your logs and identified where they got in ? if you suspect they tampered with your logs, you'll haev to reinstall it just like it was and monitor it closely and see if you can spot them this time around, and do remote syslogd logging so you'll have clean logs atlest. |
| 08:31.04 | streuner | hi jethro |
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| 08:32.11 | omry_ | can anyone help me with some pointers about setting up a mail server? |
| 08:32.14 | jethro | hello streuner |
| 08:32.40 | streuner | omry_: woody or sarge? |
| 08:32.49 | omry_ | streuner, sarge. |
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| 08:33.32 | streuner | omry_: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ |
| 08:33.55 | omry_ | streuner, thanks. checking it up. |
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| 08:34.59 | liable | *sigh* |
| 08:35.01 | budluva | anyone ever had a problem with dvdbackup/libdvdread not being able to open VIDEO_TS.IFO |
| 08:35.06 | budluva | ??? |
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| 08:35.51 | budluva | i tried it once and it told me to install libdvdcss so i installed that, and i still cant open VIDEO_TS.IFO |
| 08:36.07 | liable | stouset: I didnt see that |
| 08:37.08 | directhex|work | budluva, you got libdvdcss2 from marillat? |
| 08:37.18 | budluva | no |
| 08:37.27 | budluva | libdvdcss 1.2.5 |
| 08:37.41 | budluva | where do i get libdvdcss2? and what is marillat? |
| 08:37.45 | s-toned | Programmes with the highest accumulated time (in top) did the most to increase loadavg. Right? Or is it more complicated? |
| 08:38.07 | caphuso | s-toned: more complicated |
| 08:38.11 | directhex|work | !tell budluva about marillat |
| 08:39.01 | budluva | directhex|work, thanks, ill give it a shot |
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| 08:39.32 | caphuso | s-toned: processes that use only little or no CPU time at all can increase loadavg more more than CPU hungry ones |
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| 08:39.44 | liable | streuner: can I /msg you |
| 08:39.52 | streuner | no |
| 08:39.59 | liable | streuner: bah |
| 08:40.22 | Paganist | Is the 2.4.x still having drivers updates ? |
| 08:40.27 | jm_ | yes |
| 08:40.52 | Paganist | jm_: This very fast answer was for my question ? |
| 08:41.06 | jm_ | Paganist: yup |
| 08:41.25 | Paganist | ok, allnew drivers are still beeing added to 2.4 ? |
| 08:41.32 | jm_ | nope, not all |
| 08:41.32 | Paganist | i means _all_ |
| 08:41.37 | Paganist | ah :( |
| 08:41.44 | jethro | Paganist: just read the kernel changelog |
| 08:41.47 | xophEr | I installed a module, but when I reboot Its gone and I get: "FATAL: Module not found", what should I do? |
| 08:42.03 | Paganist | ok, thanks |
| 08:42.13 | Starf^Work | need some driver help, Compaq D310 box with onboard network driver, I think its Intel PRO/100 VE Network adaptor....anyone know which driver is compatible with it for woody please? |
| 08:42.22 | directhex|work | Paganist, 2.4 is in maintenance mode, it's meant to only get bugfixes |
| 08:42.29 | Starf^Work | onboard network adaptor even |
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| 08:42.34 | Paganist | Starf^Work: eepro100 i think |
| 08:42.35 | directhex|work | Starf^Work, e100, which isn't in woody's 2.4.18 kernels |
| 08:42.41 | budluva | directhex|work, ok, before it was version 1.2.5 now that i installed libdvdcss2 its version 1.2.8 |
| 08:42.46 | deadcat | can i use a debian kernel-patch with kernel from kernel.org? |
| 08:42.47 | Paganist | directhex|work: ok, thanks |
| 08:42.49 | petemc | Starf^Work: some of the e100s have pci ids that didnt make it in until 2.4.21 or so |
| 08:42.57 | roo9 | sep: i am reading the logs now, it LOOKS to be a brute-force attack to a local user account it also looks like the kernel was never upgraded. it's still running 2.4.18-bf2.4 :-( |
| 08:42.59 | budluva | directhex|work, and it still cant access VIDEO_TS.IFO |
| 08:43.11 | roo9 | sep: so they probably used the hd-brk exploit |
| 08:43.17 | directhex|work | !wayttd budluva |
| 08:43.18 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, budluva? |
| 08:43.29 | Paganist | e100 driver had problems and been replaced by eepro100 if i'm not wrong |
| 08:43.35 | budluva | directhex|work, rip a dvd with dvdbackup |
| 08:43.36 | Starf^Work | so how can i get this network card operational? modprobe the eepro100 driver? |
| 08:43.37 | jm_ | Paganist: the other way arround |
| 08:43.39 | directhex|work | Paganist, the reverse |
| 08:43.41 | budluva | directhex|work, check #flood |
| 08:43.43 | Paganist | ok |
| 08:43.49 | Starf^Work | ok so modprobe the e100 driver |
| 08:44.00 | directhex|work | budluva, try watching a dvd first with mplayer |
| 08:44.01 | petemc | can you not read? |
| 08:44.05 | Paganist | Starf^Work: yes |
| 08:44.16 | directhex|work | Starf^Work, e100 isn't _IN_ woody kernels. READ. |
| 08:44.22 | Starf^Work | yes |
| 08:44.28 | budluva | directhex|work, suggest a good dvd player? |
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| 08:44.37 | Starf^Work | so can i load eepro100 and get onto 2.6? |
| 08:44.44 | Paganist | Starf^Work: eepro100 certainly was in this kernel, i use it without problems |
| 08:44.45 | jethro | budluva: mplayer / xine |
| 08:44.55 | Paganist | try it, you'll see what falls from the tree |
| 08:44.56 | deadcat | Starf^Work: sure why not |
| 08:45.02 | directhex|work | Starf^Work, what the hell do you want 2.6 for? is this a desktop pc? |
| 08:45.07 | Starf^Work | Paganist, and its just modprobe eepro100 |
| 08:45.11 | xAEE | Does anybody know a site with a many screenshots of debian desktops and so on.. Im looking for a new look to my box.. |
| 08:45.12 | Starf^Work | directhex|work, no an ecommerce server |
| 08:45.15 | Paganist | Starf^Work: yes |
| 08:45.17 | idnar | how on earth can the OVPN MTU test report a higher MTU than that of the ethernet interface over which I am communicating with the remote server |
| 08:45.28 | directhex|work | Starf^Work, eepro100 in woody does not support the pro/100 ve. |
| 08:45.34 | deadcat | xAEE: lynucx.org |
| 08:45.42 | Starf^Work | bugger |
| 08:45.54 | Starf^Work | so am i going to have to use the unstable copy i got here? |
| 08:45.57 | Paganist | Starf^Work: if it loads (check with lsmod) then just add it so it loads at every boot using echo "eepro100" >> /etc/modules |
| 08:45.58 | directhex|work | Starf^Work, you need a 2.4.21 or higher kernel |
| 08:46.00 | xAEE | deadcat: site lynucx.org is down? |
| 08:46.16 | Starf^Work | hmmm |
| 08:46.16 | Paganist | hum |
| 08:46.16 | deadcat | xAEE: lynucs.org maybe |
| 08:46.23 | directhex|work | Starf^Work, obtain said kernel however you like - though not a 2.6 kernel, as woody can't use them |
| 08:46.49 | xAEE | deadcat: thanks! |
| 08:46.57 | Starf^Work | <thinks> how to get it onto the system when the only method is ethernet |
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| 08:47.13 | directhex|work | cd? usb drive? |
| 08:47.17 | Starf^Work | grabs another network card |
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| 08:47.29 | Starf^Work | lol |
| 08:47.39 | directhex|work | yeah, a 3com 905 or similar would work |
| 08:47.42 | budluva | directhex|work, mplayer cant open the device /dev/dvd but my dvd is /dev/hdc should i create a link to /dev/dvd? |
| 08:47.43 | deadcat | xAEE: most idiots post their screenshots try to make their linux box look like a MacOSX cus those assholes cant afford one (= |
| 08:47.45 | directhex|work | or an OLD eepro100 card |
| 08:48.04 | xAEE | deadcat: heheh :D |
| 08:48.11 | directhex|work | budluva, or tell it to open /dev/hdc, that would work too |
| 08:48.36 | jethro | deadcat: otoh, macosx gui looks good, so there's nothing to be ashamed of, when trying to mimic it |
| 08:48.47 | budluva | directhex|work, couldn't open DVD device /dev/hdc |
| 08:49.00 | budluva | k3b burns dvd's/cd's no problem, so why cant i watch em? |
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| 08:49.08 | deadcat | jethro: ya. but they make it so ugly when trying to mimic. i dont mind if they do a really good job. but those fuckers just makes it UGLY. |
| 08:49.12 | directhex|work | macosx is horrid |
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| 08:49.40 | Starf^Work | <grin> realtek rock |
| 08:49.43 | jethro | deadcat: uglyness is a question of personnal taste, and I should've mentionned that macosx gui looks good IMHO :p |
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| 08:50.10 | s-toned | caphuso: Oh, I see, load or idle-time, which is (more) responsible, if the system feels 'sluggish'? |
| 08:50.12 | deadcat | jethro: i mean i can see the damn edges with fucked up pixels and the icons dont match the damn theme |
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| 08:50.33 | jethro | deadcat: on aqua? |
| 08:50.50 | caphuso | s-toned: if your system feels sluggish, it's probably because of disk I/O |
| 08:51.06 | deadcat | jethro: ya. i've seen some ugly matchings by those damn linux nerds. |
| 08:51.08 | caphuso | s-toned: check what's going on with vmstat |
| 08:51.41 | jethro | deadcat: x is for weenies anyway *grin* |
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| 08:51.52 | Guerin | gah, i'm stupid |
| 08:51.55 | xAEE | does anybody know what to install in fluxbox so i can swich between desktops i mean so i have more than one window to work in.. |
| 08:52.09 | deadcat | jethro: (= thats why i run Y |
| 08:52.10 | streuner | Guerin: heh? :-) |
| 08:52.11 | Guerin | how, when shelled into a remote host which is running an x server, so I make a program show up on THAT x server? |
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| 08:52.14 | jethro | heh |
| 08:52.22 | Guerin | DISPLAY=what? |
| 08:52.31 | deadcat | Guerin: DISPLAY=localhost:10 |
| 08:52.35 | jethro | Guerin: =:0.0 if it's the first |
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| 08:52.45 | deadcat | Guerin: oops |
| 08:52.50 | jethro | deadcat: he's not talking x11 forwarding if I understood correctly |
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| 08:52.58 | deadcat | jethro: ya. (= my bad |
| 08:53.08 | tuxy17 | hi. in wich configuration file can i configure wifi ESSID, WEP key, etc in debian ? |
| 08:53.21 | deadcat | tuxy17: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:53.24 | Starf^Work | woot |
| 08:53.33 | deadcat | Starf^Work: shutup |
| 08:53.49 | Starf^Work | deadcat, why? |
| 08:53.51 | KerPlunk | tuxy17: apt-get -y install wirelesstools |
| 08:53.59 | deadcat | wireless-tools |
| 08:54.04 | tuxy17 | deadcat, ok. I thought it was only for non wificards |
| 08:54.21 | s-toned | caphuso: the bi and bo values are 378 and 183, but they hardly ever change |
| 08:54.25 | tuxy17 | kerneld, i have it already. |
| 08:54.30 | deadcat | tuxy17: its for network interfaces |
| 08:54.40 | xAEE | http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=1029482457401e40ad34761&m=screen - How can i like he get /var/log/syslog to showup in the bagground of my fluxbox? |
| 08:54.52 | deadcat | xAEE: i use root-tail |
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| 08:55.32 | jethro | tuxy17: man 7 wireless and man 5 interfaces |
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| 08:55.36 | Guerin | jethro: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 08:55.49 | jethro | Guerin: you need proper credentials as well |
| 08:55.58 | deadcat | xAEE: you might want to check this: i am using the root-tail.deb from woody though. the one in sarge/sid is fucked up: http://deadcat.katzeye.com/index.php?SCREEN=hack&ID=ROOT-TAIL |
| 08:56.02 | jethro | Guerin: or a lame xhost + and your xserver listening to a tcp socket |
| 08:56.09 | mike | omg! guerin. hi |
| 08:56.09 | mike | :-) |
| 08:56.13 | Guerin | right |
| 08:56.16 | xAEE | deadcat: oh sorry |
| 08:56.18 | Guerin | mike: howdy thar |
| 08:56.22 | caphuso | s-toned: how about the other numbers? how long did you let it run? what interval did you use? |
| 08:56.31 | deadcat | xAEE: dont sorry me. you didnt do anything wrong to me... yet |
| 08:56.35 | Guerin | fuck it, I'll just dig out the keyboard |
| 08:56.37 | Guerin | :) |
| 08:56.49 | deadcat | Guerin: if that doesnt work. ssh -X or something. |
| 08:57.04 | jm_ | Guerin: /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie ; /msg dpkg runstuffasroot ; /msg dpkg sux |
| 08:57.20 | directhex|work | Guerin, man xhost |
| 08:57.53 | xAEE | deadcat: well if i shall use root-tail how should it work because my normal user doesnt have permissions to lookup /var/log/syslog ? |
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| 08:58.09 | xAEE | root-tail /var/log/syslog - Permissions denied. |
| 08:58.30 | jm_ | xAEE: two options - 1. run it as root, 2. add yourself to adm group |
| 08:58.32 | jethro | Guerin: do you have x running on your system as well? |
| 08:58.34 | s-toned | caphuso: I let it run with watch vmstat -a (2 seconds interval), but right at the moment the system isn't really sluggish |
| 08:58.43 | jethro | Guerin: if yes, just use x2x through ssh |
| 08:58.52 | deadcat | Guerin: it works fine for me. |
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| 08:59.16 | caphuso | s-toned: uh, then either make it or wait till it gets slugglish again |
| 08:59.25 | deadcat | xAEE: add yourself to adm |
| 08:59.27 | deadcat | group |
| 08:59.30 | budluva | anyone know how long it takes to rip a dvd with dvdbackup? |
| 08:59.36 | lehel | how do i know if i have the Linux 2.4 kernel source? pls |
| 08:59.38 | deadcat | xAEE: or sudo the motherfucker |
| 09:00.00 | deadcat | lehel: if you compile your own kernel. else use kernel-headers-`uname -r` |
| 09:00.04 | xAEE | jm_: shit i forgot how to add a user to a group efter the user is already added, whats the command? |
| 09:00.05 | streuner | lehel: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 09:00.16 | jm_ | xAEE: "/msg dpkg audio" for a hint |
| 09:00.22 | deadcat | xAEE: adduser you amd |
| 09:00.26 | deadcat | xAEE: adduser you adm |
| 09:00.42 | xAEE | thanks |
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| 09:01.08 | s-toned | caphuso: queue, mem, and cpu are all clear, but are there sensible values for io and system, or does it depend? |
| 09:01.15 | lehel | streuner: this: ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-21 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 09:01.21 | xelam | gpasswd |
| 09:01.25 | deadcat | xAEE: if you use my script. you might have to use root-tail from woody. |
| 09:01.34 | xelam | xAEE: gpasswd is the command |
| 09:01.37 | xAEE | deadcat: after doing adduser lars adm user lars still doesnt have permissions to view /var/log/syslog |
| 09:01.38 | caphuso | s-toned: everything depends |
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| 09:01.48 | directhex|work | xAEE, log out, log in |
| 09:01.52 | xAEE | i did that. |
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| 09:02.14 | |Sm4sh| | the best gtk-burner is gnomebaker o graveman? |
| 09:02.17 | s-toned | caphuso: on the whole, yes :) |
| 09:02.23 | KerPlunk | checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found. configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. |
| 09:02.30 | KerPlunk | Which package in apt-get do I get? |
| 09:02.37 | directhex|work | |Sm4sh|, it's nowhere near as good as k3b though |
| 09:02.43 | jethro | !tell KerPlunk -about search |
| 09:02.59 | KerPlunk | I did that jethro |
| 09:03.08 | KerPlunk | If you search gtk or gtk 2.0 you get like 200 results |
| 09:03.15 | KerPlunk | Can't someone just tell me the package name. |
| 09:03.18 | directhex|work | !find gtk+-2.0.pc |
| 09:03.22 | s-toned | caphuso: thanks anyway, I'll check several systems and compare the values and the feelings |
| 09:03.25 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gtk+-2.0.pc' (1): (/usr/lib/pkgconfig/pygtk-2.0.pc) in python/python-gtk2-dev. |
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| 09:04.08 | jethro | KerPlunk: you didn't obviously do everything dpkg says about searching |
| 09:04.26 | |Sm4sh| | directhex|work,i've get nerolinux but it sucks...so k3b is the best? |
| 09:04.37 | KerPlunk | # apt-cache search gtk|grep -i pc|grep -i 2.0 |
| 09:04.38 | KerPlunk | # |
| 09:04.39 | directhex|work | |Sm4sh|, yes. |
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| 09:04.59 | directhex|work | KerPlunk, why are you still here? you have your answer. python-gtk2-dev |
| 09:05.06 | KerPlunk | thanks |
| 09:05.15 | will_ | if i have a ati mobility 9000 is it easiest just to run the 2.4 instead of 2.6 kernel? |
| 09:05.35 | roo9 | could anyone think of a simple command to extract a list of ip addresses from a file? |
| 09:05.45 | stouset | will_: what do you mean? I have the same and am running 2.6 fine... |
| 09:05.45 | directhex|work | will_, why does that matter? |
| 09:06.10 | will_ | i donno, ok nevermind the ati thing, what about getting alsa to work? |
| 09:06.16 | will_ | cause i saw alsa modules for 2.4 but not 2.6 |
| 09:06.18 | streuner | roo9: sed, awk? |
| 09:06.18 | directhex|work | will_, alsa is far easier in 2.6 |
| 09:06.29 | directhex|work | will_, alsa is _IN_ 2.6 |
| 09:06.34 | will_ | oh ok cool hehe |
| 09:06.44 | will_ | i just gotta modconf a biti guess cause my laptop mouse pad thing isnt working |
| 09:06.52 | will_ | and it crashes when i plug the usb mouse in |
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| 09:07.30 | KerPlunk | checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found. configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. |
| 09:07.36 | KerPlunk | I get the same message. |
| 09:07.36 | wombachi | how can I disable ipv6 (2.6.8 kernel on Sarge)? it's compiled in, not in /etc/modules, but loads anyway. Is there a kernel parameter I can add in lilo? |
| 09:08.28 | roo9 | streuner: but what expression should i use? |
| 09:08.31 | directhex|work | KerPlunk, so add the location of gtk+-2.0.pc to PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
| 09:08.49 | KerPlunk | How? |
| 09:08.53 | streuner | roo9: google is your friend, there are plenty examples |
| 09:09.01 | will_ | is this bad? apm: BIOS not found. (trying to insmod via modconf the apm module) |
| 09:09.07 | roo9 | streuner: was the first thing i tried |
| 09:09.15 | directhex|work | PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/path/to/foo ./configure |
| 09:09.16 | stouset | will_: Probably not. Most new motherboards don't support APM. |
| 09:09.26 | stouset | will_: ACPI is preferred. |
| 09:09.27 | KerPlunk | directhex|work: Where is the path? |
| 09:09.38 | will_ | o ok, i thought apm was my laptop battery moniter or something lol |
| 09:09.49 | stouset | will_: It's been deprecated for ACPI. |
| 09:09.51 | directhex|work | KerPlunk, how the fuck should i know? dpkg -L python-gtk2-dev |
| 09:09.57 | stouset | will_: apt-get install acpid |
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| 09:10.32 | KerPlunk | /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pygtk-2.0.pc |
| 09:10.32 | wombachi | sorry, answering myself: alias net-pf-10 on /etc/modules.conf :) |
| 09:10.33 | will_ | wow cool it found my battery:P |
| 09:10.33 | KerPlunk | That? |
| 09:11.10 | KerPlunk | directhex|work: Is that the right path? |
| 09:11.17 | KerPlunk | It showed like 15 paths with that command. |
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| 09:11.24 | directhex|work | KerPlunk, i don't know. that on earth are you compiling anyway? |
| 09:11.32 | antony | am i the only one annoyed by all the profanity in here? :) |
| 09:11.35 | directhex|work | antony, yes |
| 09:11.41 | antony | thanx |
| 09:11.49 | directhex|work | antony, you're free to start #debian-pure, or join #debian-friendly or ##debian |
| 09:11.53 | wombachi | why is ipv6 enable by default on Debian? Seems nobody use it, it cause bugs... |
| 09:11.58 | antony | indeed |
| 09:12.25 | KerPlunk | directhex|work: ophcrack 2.0 |
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| 09:13.22 | will_ | are there any other laptop essential package things besides acpi that i need |
| 09:13.37 | sep | Will_ pcmcia packages perhaps |
| 09:13.40 | liable | will_: laptop-mode is good |
| 09:14.05 | liable | will_: what lappie |
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| 09:14.21 | budluva | anyone here familiar with dvd ripping? im using dvdbackup and now i have a bunch of .VOB's in a VIDEO_TS folder, how do i burn them to dvdr? |
| 09:14.22 | will_ | hp pavilion zv5000 |
| 09:14.30 | benjamindees | do I need to do something special to get openoffice.org-kde (kde integration) to work? |
| 09:15.30 | wombachi | budluva dvdrtools dvd+rw-tools ? apt-cache search dvd tell me |
| 09:15.32 | liable | will_: hmmm, no specific kernel modules for them I think, what do you lack |
| 09:16.08 | will_ | hm, i havent messed around that much, i mostly just wanna get the radeon card and sound working |
| 09:16.32 | liable | will_: no sound? |
| 09:16.34 | directhex|work | will_, the radeon will just work on xfree86 on debian. |
| 09:16.55 | viyyer | I've been trying to compile transcode for sometime now... I am getting a link error to oggvorbis |
| 09:17.04 | will_ | ya i prolly just need to enable alsa in modconf or something |
| 09:17.24 | budluva | wombachi, i installed dvd+rw-tools |
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| 09:17.31 | liable | will_: apt-get alsa-base; asla-utils |
| 09:17.38 | directhex|work | !wayc viyyer |
| 09:17.38 | dpkg | viyyer: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 09:17.42 | directhex|work | !tell viyyer about marillat |
| 09:18.17 | viyyer | dpkg, dpkg I need to play and convert vncrec files |
| 09:18.21 | viyyer | oops |
| 09:18.29 | jethro | viyyer: dpkg is a bot |
| 09:18.40 | viyyer | oh ok |
| 09:18.58 | roo9 | streuner: should not something like cat somefile|egrep '\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+' work? |
| 09:19.27 | jethro | roo9: you'd better egrep 'pattern' somefile, and save a cat |
| 09:19.37 | liable | will_: what soundcard |
| 09:19.54 | roo9 | jethro: well.. yes, but the point is that the egrep expression does not work |
| 09:20.01 | viyyer | directhex|work, I am using sarge and support for VNCrec is not 0.6.12 |
| 09:20.09 | jethro | roo9: what are you tryng to grep? |
| 09:20.19 | jethro | roo9: IP addresses? |
| 09:20.25 | will_ | says ati ac'97 something on lspci |
| 09:20.25 | roo9 | jethro: yes |
| 09:20.33 | omry_ | when trying to send an email outside from postfix, it always bounces with "Name or service not known". any idea whats up? |
| 09:20.45 | viyyer | anyone has used vncrec ? |
| 09:21.02 | viyyer | it's very nice.. |
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| 09:21.28 | roo9 | jethro: any ideas on how to do it? |
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| 09:23.13 | liable | will_: you installed alsa? |
| 09:23.15 | jethro | roo9: egrep '([0-9]{1,3}\.){3}' somefile ; #that should work |
| 09:23.59 | roo9 | cool, that works great, thanks jethro |
| 09:24.06 | jethro | you're welcome |
| 09:24.45 | will_ | ok i installed alsa-base |
| 09:25.00 | liable | will_: and alsa-utils |
| 09:25.16 | will_ | ya |
| 09:25.26 | will_ | crap i ran alsaconf and it fialed or something |
| 09:25.42 | deadcat | as root |
| 09:26.57 | liable | will_: you might have to modprobe-r your oss module and modprobe your alsa module |
| 09:27.20 | will_ | ya it detected ac'97 then got weird error message card not found |
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| 09:28.47 | will_ | brbs |
| 09:29.09 | jethro | that's a lot of wasted time |
| 09:29.21 | liable | hehe |
| 09:29.40 | liable | must be an irc junkie |
| 09:29.43 | jethro | heh |
| 09:29.59 | jethro | I wont criticize : 11:29:47 Irssi uptime: 22d 18h 37m 53s |
| 09:30.10 | liable | dont even want to look |
| 09:30.14 | jethro | :) |
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| 09:30.15 | colk | ac97 isnt really the sound module though |
| 09:30.31 | debian | df |
| 09:30.32 | debian | sorry |
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| 09:30.42 | colk | heh |
| 09:30.48 | colk | we arent a terminal:) |
| 09:31.00 | jethro | unless you want to type su - then your password |
| 09:31.02 | jethro | heh |
| 09:31.08 | debian | :~( |
| 09:31.17 | benjamindees | woot, found it. kde dialogs in OOo :) |
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| 09:31.55 | SuperSox | Irssi uptime: 43d 7h 12m 8s |
| 09:31.57 | SuperSox | oops :x |
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| 09:32.41 | liable | SuperSox: you must get a life :-) |
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| 09:33.26 | SuperSox | liable: I do go out occasionally |
| 09:33.29 | SuperSox | :p |
| 09:33.35 | freespace | where should I put module options for kernel modules? |
| 09:34.05 | liable | SuperSox: to shop for computer bits :) |
| 09:34.20 | SuperSox | liable: no either to work or university, both places I sit infront of a computer :X |
| 09:34.27 | colk | Uptime: 6d 1h 38m 18s |
| 09:34.29 | liable | heh |
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| 09:35.49 | benjamindees | do many people use prelink in Debian? |
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| 09:36.10 | hellop | Can someone help me get my 3COM PCMCIA Nic running on an IBM Thinkpad 240? Debian Stable. Dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/10550 |
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| 09:36.20 | BleSS | how get the exact input devices? i use /cat/proc/devices/input but i get more devices that i have |
| 09:36.20 | simonrvn | prelink mangles binaries if you're not careful |
| 09:36.33 | wombachi | freespace man modules, man modules.conf |
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| 09:36.39 | simonrvn | can mangle them even if you are. IME. that was last year though |
| 09:36.42 | SuperSox | liable: I gave up smoking :\ |
| 09:36.44 | wombachi | freespace quick answer: /etc/modules |
| 09:36.49 | jethro | hellop: why do you run woody on a laptop? |
| 09:36.53 | simonrvn | g'night |
| 09:37.00 | jethro | night sim |
| 09:37.02 | KerPlunk | !start a distro war |
| 09:37.02 | dpkg | Progeny rox0rz! |
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| 09:37.05 | jethro | simonrvn |
| 09:37.06 | hellop | I found this link where someone got it working in Redhat, by editing etc/sysconfig/pcmcia but that file doesn't exist on debian : http://www.cis.ksu.edu/~steve/thinkpad-240/thinkpad-240.html |
| 09:37.18 | benjamindees | hellop, there are backported kernels at backports.org |
| 09:37.19 | jethro | !d-i hellop |
| 09:37.20 | dpkg | hellop, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 09:37.37 | freespace | well, modules.conf kindly informs me I shouldn't touch it and look at files in /etc/modutils |
| 09:37.51 | liable | how old is a 240? |
| 09:38.00 | freespace | its already in there actually, I have placed the option into /etc/modutils/options and ran update-modules. |
| 09:38.06 | hellop | jethro, that is where I got this img... |
| 09:38.15 | freespace | the module however is still not being loaded with the option i specified :S |
| 09:38.44 | hellop | liable, P400 celeron |
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| 09:39.20 | hellop | jethro, are you trying to tell me to get the net-install of testing? or something? |
| 09:39.50 | wombachi | freespace use etc/modules directly. man update-modules says (on Sarge) it's deprecated now. |
| 09:40.10 | jethro | hellop: you said debian stable, which is woody at the moment, and which I wouldn't run on a laptop |
| 09:40.10 | freespace | hrm ok, cool |
| 09:40.15 | hellop | So, I put the HD in a Toshiba laptop, and the NIC works. so, the drivers are installed. But, I think the PCMCIA drivers for the IBM are not. Can someone help me with this? |
| 09:40.40 | hellop | jethro, so what would you run on a laptop? I just thought I could apt get everything. |
| 09:40.52 | liable | hellop: apt-get pcmcia-cs? |
| 09:40.55 | jethro | hellop: install sarge, not woody |
| 09:41.08 | hellop | jethro, k |
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| 09:41.32 | gilles | hello all! |
| 09:41.52 | hellop | liable, sorta chicken and egg problem |
| 09:42.03 | sep | is there a easy way to purge everything except base packages ? |
| 09:42.03 | gilles | is anyone having problem with svn from sarge? there's no ticket in bts but my fresh install doesn't want to create a repository : svnadmin hangs |
| 09:42.17 | SlayerXP | gilles: WFM |
| 09:42.32 | gilles | wfm? |
| 09:42.39 | SlayerXP | !wfm |
| 09:42.40 | dpkg | well, wfm is Works for Me, or some strange corruption of hopwfm, or what fucking manual? |
| 09:42.48 | SlayerXP | the former. |
| 09:42.55 | liable | sep: yes, re-install :) |
| 09:43.06 | gilles | weird, so there something else screwed in my install |
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| 09:43.23 | gilles | thanks |
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| 09:45.19 | liable | hellop: ahh, no network, nevermind me, always a slow starter |
| 09:45.47 | liable | hellop: do it from the toshiba |
| 09:45.58 | hellop | liable, or really? |
| 09:46.09 | hellop | oh I mean |
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| 09:46.21 | hellop | umm also, no aptget I think. |
| 09:46.24 | hellop | hehehe |
| 09:46.30 | liable | hellop: what |
| 09:46.44 | hellop | oh I just need like text install with network |
| 09:47.03 | liable | hellop: ya, apt-get is text |
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| 09:48.17 | liable | hellop: you've lost me |
| 09:49.13 | hellop | liable, so the PCMCIA works on the toshiba, but if you think installing pcmcia-cs will help, I'll try that first. |
| 09:50.07 | liable | hellop: is old kernel, I think maybe yes, but of course am quite often wrong |
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| 09:50.29 | hellop | liable, hmm ok so skip it then, I'll reinstall. |
| 09:50.33 | hellop | tks |
| 09:50.54 | liable | hellop: NO, try it :) |
| 09:51.07 | hellop | k |
| 09:51.14 | liable | hehe |
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| 09:54.03 | budluva | when burning a dvd do i have to use udf to burn with k3b? |
| 09:54.35 | viyyer | budluva, I suppose iso should not be a problem either |
| 09:55.24 | liable | hellop: dont listen to me, install sarge, but try to get it working, just for shits and giggles |
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| 09:57.11 | wombachi | how can I prevent these modules from loading: vesa16fb, pci_hotplug? I dont find where they are started (grep -r hotplug /etc/modu* gives nothing) |
| 09:57.28 | omry_ | does it make sense that I can only send mail to some hosts, and to others not? could it be related to ipv6? |
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| 09:57.52 | budluva | ermm how do i unmount my cdrom if its busy? i tried umount -f /dev/hda and it still says its busy |
| 09:58.12 | herbi | leave the mountpoint |
| 09:58.17 | herbi | youre in the mountpoint |
| 09:58.19 | herbi | get out! |
| 09:58.27 | budluva | no im not |
| 09:58.38 | herbi | yes you are |
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| 09:58.40 | hettar | budluva: kill famd |
| 09:58.51 | omry_ | budluva, lsof | grep /dev/CDROM_DEVICE to see who is using the cdrom |
| 09:58.56 | liable | wombachi: hotplug and discover, blacklist may help |
| 09:59.22 | herbi | out of curiosity, why is your cdrom drive your IDE master? |
| 09:59.28 | budluva | kronsy:/home# lsof | grep /dev/hda |
| 09:59.29 | budluva | kronsy:/home# |
| 09:59.32 | herbi | primary bus master at that |
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| 09:59.59 | budluva | dvdwriter = /dev/hda and harddrive = /dev/hdc |
| 10:00.08 | herbi | budluva, df -h /dev/hda |
| 10:00.26 | budluva | kronsy:/home# df -h /dev/hda |
| 10:00.26 | budluva | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 10:00.26 | budluva | /dev/hda 4.0G 4.0G 0 100% /cdrom |
| 10:00.35 | wombachi | liable thanks. Time to read doc :) |
| 10:00.54 | herbi | did you kill famd like hettar suggested? |
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| 10:01.08 | herbi | hmmm isnt hettar a character from a david eddings book? |
| 10:01.09 | budluva | kronsy:/home# kill famd |
| 10:01.09 | budluva | -su: kill: famd: arguments must be process or job IDs |
| 10:01.17 | herbi | *sigh* |
| 10:01.21 | herbi | budluva, type killall famd |
| 10:01.31 | wombachi | omry_ I remember mail problems with postfix. Cause was ipv6. Solution, disable ipv6 |
| 10:01.31 | benjamindees | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.33 | herbi | youre one of THOSE ones i see. |
| 10:01.46 | omry_ | wombachi, with pleasure, how do I do that? |
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| 10:02.02 | budluva | there is no /etc/init.d/fam or famd |
| 10:02.28 | wombachi | omry_ I asked that few minutes ago, and answered myself: "alias net-pf-10 off" in etc/modules.conf. (and reboot, no way to remove ipv6 module, I read no lkml) |
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| 10:02.42 | wombachi | s/read no/read on/ |
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| 10:02.58 | benjamindees | budluva, you're using kde? |
| 10:03.09 | budluva | gnome |
| 10:03.12 | omry_ | wombachi, reboot? god damn.. just as my server uptime was getting somewhere. are you sure? |
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| 10:03.49 | wombachi | omry_ google about it, but I didnt found a way to do it, at least. |
| 10:04.14 | liable | benjamindees: dont even need it with kde |
| 10:04.15 | wombachi | omry_ if on a server, first try to identify the problem. Perhaps it's not ipv6 related (dont kill your uptime :) |
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| 10:04.21 | tonic | plst,how to use a microphone in debian? What to do? |
| 10:04.27 | benjamindees | liable, thank god |
| 10:04.32 | omry_ | wombachi, yeah, I am asking in #networking too.. :) |
| 10:04.47 | benjamindees | budluva, if you're using testing, fam is kind of required for gnome... |
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| 10:06.03 | budluva | hrmm |
| 10:06.04 | Jeo | I can not understand the apache2 docs about virtualhosts..., I built dev enviroment here, and each developer must have a virtualhost directing them to their consecutive folders... the testserver has a fix ip 192.168... |
| 10:06.26 | Jeo | apache2ctl configtest tell me i need namevirtualhost directive |
| 10:06.32 | budluva | fam was not installed, so im getting it now via apt |
| 10:06.37 | Jeo | its warn message actually |
| 10:06.44 | Jeo | what I am doing wrong? |
| 10:07.04 | jethro | Jeo: did you read apache documentation ? |
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| 10:07.22 | Jeo | NameVirtualHost *:80 in the apache2.conf before the include of sites-enable |
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| 10:07.37 | Jeo | yes but, i can not understand |
| 10:07.44 | liable | budluva: your installing famd, for a problem that has nothing to do with it? |
| 10:07.47 | Jeo | i did what is in there |
| 10:08.12 | Knorrie | Jeo, but seems you didn't put a "NameVirtualHost 1.2.3.4" somewhere? |
| 10:08.21 | Jeo | one the virtualhost tag are well configured |
| 10:08.26 | liable | budluva: how will that help you umount hda |
| 10:08.33 | Jeo | knorrie |
| 10:08.55 | Jeo | NameVirtualHost 192.168.100.100 |
| 10:08.58 | fatal_ | Jeo: the <virtualhost foo:bar> blocks should match a NameVirtualHost foo:bar ... |
| 10:08.58 | Jeo | or |
| 10:09.00 | Jeo | pos |
| 10:09.08 | Jeo | NameVirtualHost *:80 |
| 10:09.11 | budluva | liable, dont worry, i got it unmounted |
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| 10:09.22 | liable | budluva: how |
| 10:09.36 | Jeo | the virtualhost has 192.168.100.100:80 |
| 10:09.48 | Jeo | the NameVirtualhost must be the same? |
| 10:09.55 | Knorrie | Jao, only the ip will do |
| 10:09.58 | budluva | liable, didnt realise i had k3b open in another window all alone by itself, sorry for asking stupid questions, but its bloody late for me, 4am |
| 10:10.09 | fatal_ | Jeo: this page describes it well: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/name-based.html |
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| 10:10.13 | jethro | budluva: go to bed then |
| 10:10.30 | liable | budluva: dont be sorry, stupid is my middle name :-) |
| 10:10.36 | budluva | jethro, i will when this dvd is done burning, want to see if i ripped this dvd ok |
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| 10:11.06 | Jeo | Knorrie, so ... NameVirtualHost 192.168.100.100 |
| 10:11.12 | Knorrie | Jeo, what's the exact failuremessage apache is telling you |
| 10:11.20 | jethro | budluva: don't do stupid things while exhausted |
| 10:11.24 | budluva | anyone aware of any good alarm clock packages for debian? |
| 10:11.44 | Jeo | Knorrie, these are warn message |
| 10:11.46 | Sm4sh | How I can play Audio/video streaming with firefox? |
| 10:11.47 | Jeo | wait |
| 10:11.48 | liable | jethro: what else will we do if people dont ask questions |
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| 10:11.59 | liable | s/we/I |
| 10:12.04 | budluva | liable, :P |
| 10:12.08 | Knorrie | Jeo, yes, and then <VirtualHost 192.168.100.100:80> \n ServerName blah \n etc |
| 10:12.09 | Jeo | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.19 | jethro | liable: I m not into helping exhausted people since most of the time, they do stupid things just because theyr are tired |
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| 10:12.34 | jethro | anyways, SIGFOOD |
| 10:12.44 | Jeo | apache2 doc virtual host says, I need to put 1.2.3.4:80 |
| 10:12.51 | Knorrie | Jeo, ah, do you ha ve two virtualhosts witch the same ServerName? |
| 10:13.03 | liable | jethro: well, I obviously have nothing better to do :-) |
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| 10:13.15 | Jeo | wait |
| 10:13.33 | aum | help - when printing a 100+ page text doc (.ps, one font) thru CUPS to a USB-connected HP2550L laser, print speed after first 10 pages drops from 20 pages/min to 2 pages/min - feels like a mem leak - any ideas? |
| 10:13.44 | BleSS | how get the exact input devices? i use /cat/proc/devices/input but i get more devices that i have |
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| 10:14.14 | liable | BleSS: what device are you talking about |
| 10:14.20 | Knorrie | Jeo, patient |
| 10:14.24 | Jeo | Knorrie, each developer, they have different servername |
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| 10:14.30 | BleSS | liable, mouse and keyboard |
| 10:14.54 | Jeo | I have one testserver, with one fix ip |
| 10:15.00 | SuperSox | humm, I don't have a /cat :p |
| 10:15.02 | BleSS | liable, i get 2 different names to mouse and 2 to keyboard |
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| 10:15.25 | liable | BleSS: do you have two of each? |
| 10:15.34 | Jeo | each developer must have a different servername but using the same IP |
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| 10:15.42 | Knorrie | Jeo, yes |
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| 10:16.03 | Knorrie | Jeo, that's *namebased* virtual hosting |
| 10:16.10 | liable | BleSS: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 10:16.26 | Jeo | yes fatal_, give me the url |
| 10:16.29 | BleSS | liable, no, i have one mouse and keyboard, but it shows 2 different names |
| 10:16.36 | Jeo | but it looks confusing |
| 10:16.59 | BleSS | liable, mouse: Name="ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse" and Name="Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse" |
| 10:17.11 | BleSS | liable, keyboard: Name="AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" and Name="Microsoft® Office Keyboard" |
| 10:17.19 | BleSS | i'm using evdev |
| 10:17.22 | liable | BleSS: go the logitech |
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| 10:17.47 | liable | BleSS: whats the actual problem |
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| 10:18.07 | possie | if i want a complete backup of my production system, and i want to backup verything from the root on ( e.g. / ) can i best make sure the system goe's to single user mode, and then start the backup ? |
| 10:18.17 | Knorrie | Jeo, if you want to use 1 dns name and provide more people with webspace, use ~user userdirs, or Alias /devel1 /path/to/devel1 |
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| 10:18.49 | BleSS | liable, i want to get the number of input devices, it's for a script to auto-configure x.org, so i need this info, with a laptop, someone could use a mouse or keyboard attached at its system |
| 10:19.01 | tola | How do I run fsck on an hfsplus filesystem? |
| 10:19.10 | BleSS | and this info don't help me |
| 10:19.14 | liable | BleSS: xorg? what distro |
| 10:19.26 | xoz | !sleep with me |
| 10:19.26 | dpkg | I'd love to fsck you. |
| 10:19.47 | BleSS | liable, to auto-configure xorg, all distro with kernel 2.6 |
| 10:20.11 | liable | BleSS: debian doesnt have xorg |
| 10:20.27 | Sm4sh | How I can play Audio/video streaming with firefox? |
| 10:20.38 | BleSS | but it's valid to xfree86 too |
| 10:21.51 | Jeo | in apache2, i have the sites_enable folder... I created dev.1 dev.2 ... each file has the developer folder as documentroot |
| 10:22.23 | Jeo | the /var/www/dev.1/www for example |
| 10:22.26 | SlayerXP | jeo: either read the apache docs or ask your systems administrator to set it up for you. |
| 10:22.44 | benjamindees | Sm4sh, mplayerplug-in |
| 10:22.57 | jm_ | BleSS: where did you see /proc/devices/input? |
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| 10:23.34 | jm_ | you mean /proc/bus/input/devices? |
| 10:23.48 | Jeo | there are no sys adm here... :( we are just devs |
| 10:23.49 | Sm4sh | benjamindees, I use xine,vlc and totem. |
| 10:24.04 | Jeo | i need to do this |
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| 10:24.29 | yel | hi folks |
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| 10:24.38 | amorphix | hi guys |
| 10:24.40 | amorphix | slightly OT question..but does anyone have any idea how to setup a special unfiltered e-mail address in Postfix that bypasses the header and body checking? |
| 10:24.49 | BleSS | jm_, that dir don't exist |
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| 10:24.59 | yel | i need help with somestuff please to who may i past something please ? |
| 10:25.01 | BleSS | jm_, that file |
| 10:25.22 | SlayerXP | yel: try asking a clear and concise question. |
| 10:25.31 | incorrect | i know there is a service that only does scp, does anyone remember what its called? |
| 10:25.34 | liable | yel: /msg dpkg paste |
| 10:25.37 | BleSS | jm_, it's /proc/bus/input/devices |
| 10:25.40 | benjamindees | Sm4sh, gxine then perhaps |
| 10:25.46 | Knorrie | Jeo, what's sites_enable? ... uhm a 'file' with a docroot? :S |
| 10:25.50 | yel | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 10:25.50 | yel | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 10:25.50 | yel | Package zlib has no available version, but exists in the database. |
| 10:25.50 | yel | This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and |
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| 10:26.14 | yel | re |
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| 10:26.39 | Jeo | Knorrie, there, i wrote the configuration for each dev. enviroment |
| 10:26.43 | aum | hi - anyone know why printing a long doc (all text) thru CUPS to a USB-connected HP2550L laser slows down from 20ppm to 2ppm after the first 10 pages? |
| 10:26.57 | yel | liable, Package zlib has no available version, but exists in the database <--- is my problem |
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| 10:27.15 | yel | i m new to debian and im glad for any help |
| 10:27.20 | Jeo | Knorrie, from my station, i can reach dev.1.linux for example |
| 10:27.22 | yel | i want to install zlib |
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| 10:27.38 | Jeo | but something gos wrong with the others |
| 10:27.40 | Gnea | yel: rememmber that apt-get command? |
| 10:27.54 | yel | yes i did apt-get install zlib |
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| 10:28.00 | yel | and it gaves me Package zlib has no available version, but exists in the database |
| 10:28.02 | Gnea | so it is installed. |
| 10:28.05 | Gnea | ah |
| 10:28.10 | Gnea | then that is not the packagename. |
| 10:28.10 | amorphix | hi |
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| 10:28.15 | Gnea | you need the *package**name* |
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| 10:28.24 | Sm4sh | benjamindees, gxine cant play streming :( |
| 10:28.24 | Gnea | so you need to apt-cache search zlib |
| 10:28.26 | Gnea | and find it |
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| 10:28.41 | Gnea | do that now and locate it. report back. |
| 10:28.54 | lehel | "make dep" isn't working!:( - No rule to make target "dep" .. ?? |
| 10:28.58 | Knorrie | Jeo, ah. still different namevirtualhost declarations on the same port 80 must have different dns names |
| 10:29.10 | Gnea | lehel: where does it say to make dep? |
| 10:29.14 | benjamindees | Sm4sh, *shrug* |
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| 10:29.35 | lehel | Gnea: where should i run "make dep" ? |
| 10:29.49 | Gnea | lehel: no, WHERE DOES IT TELL YOU TO make dep? |
| 10:30.01 | liable | lehel: you making a kernel |
| 10:30.09 | PerfDave | lehel: What makes you think you should run "make dep" in the first place? :) |
| 10:30.20 | Jeo | Knorrie, it means i need to install a local dns server |
| 10:30.26 | Jeo | ? |
| 10:30.38 | Knorrie | Jeo, yes or use /etc/hosts on your own box |
| 10:30.43 | liable | lehel: you making a kernel the none debian way? |
| 10:30.50 | Gnea | now yer fukt. |
| 10:30.53 | Gnea | >:) |
| 10:30.57 | lehel | yes.. i want |
| 10:30.59 | liable | hehe |
| 10:31.06 | jm_ | BleSS: not sure how you got two entries in it for mice, it only shows one for me |
| 10:31.16 | Jeo | Knorrie, do you know which one should i install? |
| 10:31.17 | lehel | can i ask help to do it! ? pls |
| 10:31.29 | Gnea | YOU ANSWER |
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| 10:31.35 | Gnea | or no help |
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| 10:31.42 | liable | lehel: ARE YOU COMPILING A KERNEL? |
| 10:31.56 | Jeo | it seems to be host pkg... |
| 10:32.22 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - im having trouble getting apt to find the non-US sources in my sources.list - how can i add non-US? |
| 10:32.34 | jm_ | Super_Cat_Frog: run apt-setup |
| 10:32.34 | lehel | I answer if I can answer!.. but if I don't know the answer? |
| 10:32.37 | PerfDave | Super_Cat_Frog: Are you sunning Sarge? |
| 10:32.37 | Knorrie | Jeo, dnsmasq |
| 10:32.43 | Super_Cat_Frog | perfdave - yes |
| 10:32.52 | PerfDave | Super_Cat_Frog: There are no non-US sources for Sarge. |
| 10:32.52 | lehel | i'm using debain for 3 days |
| 10:32.54 | Gnea | houstan, we've got a problem. |
| 10:32.55 | PerfDave | Super_Cat_Frog: /msg dpkg non-us |
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| 10:33.08 | Super_Cat_Frog | ok ta |
| 10:33.11 | Gnea | lehel: i asked you: what told you to make dep? |
| 10:33.16 | Gnea | WHAT WHAT WHAT |
| 10:33.21 | PerfDave | lehel: In Debian, you rarely need to compile your own kernel. There are kernel-image packages available. |
| 10:33.31 | liable | lehel: what actually are you doing |
| 10:33.37 | lehel | Gnea: i need to install asterisk |
| 10:33.57 | lehel | i have installed a kernel |
| 10:34.00 | liable | lehel: from source? |
| 10:34.09 | Jeo | hehehe, now its ok... :))) :D |
| 10:34.17 | Super_Cat_Frog | thanks - i was wondering how i had libdvdcss without non-us |
| 10:34.35 | Jeo | i am happy, thanks a lot |
| 10:34.39 | Gnea | lehel: but what are you typing 'make dep' for? |
| 10:34.39 | Knorrie | Jeo, congrats |
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| 10:34.53 | Jeo | congrats you too guys :D |
| 10:35.06 | Jeo | actually congrats just you guys :D |
| 10:35.11 | liable | Gnea: me thinks he needs kernel headers |
| 10:35.15 | lehel | maybe i shouldn't type 'make dep |
| 10:35.28 | lehel | i'm using kernel 2.4 |
| 10:35.47 | lehel | i installed the headers.. and source |
| 10:36.11 | lehel | have anybody heard about: Zaptel?.. Asterisk? |
| 10:36.19 | Gnea | asterisk |
| 10:36.22 | lehel | there are some steps |
| 10:36.22 | Gnea | it is VoIP |
| 10:36.25 | Knorrie | lehel, yeah, friend of mine is installing that |
| 10:36.39 | Knorrie | lehel, he has some T400 blah card that won't work |
| 10:36.39 | liable | lehel: who told you to 'make dep' |
| 10:36.56 | Knorrie | lehel, last thing i told him is to look at aptel-source package |
| 10:36.57 | lehel | i have TDM400 |
| 10:37.02 | Knorrie | lehel, yes taht one |
| 10:37.07 | renegad3 | how can I change it so that in a vterm I can scroll more than 3 pages up? |
| 10:37.14 | lehel | liable: who? in the documentation |
| 10:37.24 | Gnea | lehel: is that used with vonage? |
| 10:37.25 | caphuso | renegad3: in a what? |
| 10:37.27 | lehel | i have the packeges |
| 10:37.36 | renegad3 | caphuso, virtual terminal |
| 10:37.38 | jm_ | wtf is vterm? |
| 10:37.39 | lehel | not heard about vonage |
| 10:37.46 | Knorrie | lehel, zaptel-source package says it is meant to build a kernel module for the T400 |
| 10:37.48 | Gnea | it's a VoIP phone company service |
| 10:38.10 | liable | lehel: yes why do you need 'make dep' |
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| 10:38.51 | lehel | www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Zaptel+Installation |
| 10:38.52 | lehel | look pls |
| 10:39.14 | caphuso | renegad3: what kind of "virtual terminal"? |
| 10:39.18 | Gnea | lehel: still what are you 'make dep'? the kernel? |
| 10:39.45 | renegad3 | the one when you hit "ctrl+alt+F1" |
| 10:39.56 | lehel | the kernel |
| 10:40.10 | renegad3 | caphuso, it only allows me to scroll up 3 pages |
| 10:40.16 | jm_ | renegad3: you can't change that |
| 10:40.27 | caphuso | renegad3: and what's "it"? |
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| 10:40.37 | renegad3 | jm_, is there any reason for that? |
| 10:40.45 | usn | hi folx |
| 10:40.49 | Gnea | lehel: what kernel version? |
| 10:40.54 | liable | lehel: make dep builds headers, if you have them, you dont need to do it |
| 10:41.03 | caphuso | renegad3: ah, the linux console. use screen |
| 10:41.04 | lehel | Linux version 2.4.27-2-686-smp (horms@charles.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-6)) |
| 10:41.18 | jm_ | renegad3: yes, but I forgot the actual technical reason - you can check if framebuffer helps with this, or you can use screen |
| 10:41.39 | renegad3 | jm_, thanks |
| 10:41.54 | lehel | liable: how do i know if i have them? |
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| 10:42.16 | benjamindees | is there a debian utility to manage a user's default program preferences, like e-mail client and browser, etc.? |
| 10:42.19 | liable | lehel: fuck, didnt you say you installed them? |
| 10:42.39 | Gnea | benjamindees: 'manage'? |
| 10:42.55 | lehel | i said.. there is a command to find out about them? |
| 10:43.03 | liable | lehel: you have a kernel source? |
| 10:43.24 | lehel | yes |
| 10:43.45 | liable | lehel: and you have copied your boot config too it? |
| 10:44.03 | lehel | don't know how ;( |
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| 10:44.10 | liable | lehel: and you have made a symbolic link to linux? |
| 10:44.11 | Gnea | lehel: probably the best thing to do is to apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27 and compile a new kernel |
| 10:44.35 | lehel | yes a have to make a symbolic link!! how?? |
| 10:44.38 | Gnea | lehel: then making new modules for it will be easier once you have a fresh source tree to work with |
| 10:44.47 | Gnea | a symlink to what? |
| 10:44.55 | benjamindees | Gnea, like if I wanted an icon to open my chosen e-mail client, or if an app needed to open the "preferred" e-mail client... is there a de-facto way of doing so? |
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| 10:45.22 | liable | lehel: whats your currnet kernel |
| 10:45.32 | liable | current even |
| 10:45.35 | Gnea | benjamindees: of course not, there's so many ways to do the same thing. i'm guessing you've got some sort of desktop environment running with some icons? |
| 10:46.17 | lehel | liable: tell me the command pls to find out the current kernel type |
| 10:46.32 | Gnea | cat /proc/version |
| 10:46.40 | liable | uname -r |
| 10:46.45 | benjamindees | Gnea, well there seems to be something called "sensible-browser"; not sure if that is similar |
| 10:46.53 | lehel | 2.4.27-2-686-smp |
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| 10:47.12 | lehel | it's good? |
| 10:47.15 | liable | lehel: and what is the source package |
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| 10:47.49 | lehel | source packge command? |
| 10:48.02 | benjamindees | Gnea, yes I'm using kde |
| 10:48.15 | liable | lehel: its in /usr/src or it should be |
| 10:48.25 | Gnea | benjamindees: then you want to ask in #kde |
| 10:48.56 | lehel | liable: kernel-source-2.4.27.tar.bz2 |
| 10:48.56 | lehel | kernel-source-2.6.8.tar.bz2 |
| 10:49.17 | liable | benjamindees: its in there somewhere, to set preferences for that stuff |
| 10:49.18 | Gnea | lehel: ok those are just the source tarballs. by themselves, they do nothing |
| 10:49.41 | Gnea | lehel: i would do this: tar xjvf kernel-source-2.4.27.tar.bz2 |
| 10:49.44 | lehel | how to "activate" themm? |
| 10:49.50 | liable | lehel: your an idiot. GO AWAY |
| 10:49.51 | Gnea | you only need that one |
| 10:50.00 | Gnea | liable: naw he's a n00b |
| 10:50.02 | lehel | ok.. i'm doing Gnea |
| 10:50.21 | liable | Gnea: missed the 2.4 |
| 10:50.31 | Gnea | liable: at one time you didn't know how to 'ls'. better watch that shit. |
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| 10:51.16 | liable | Gnea: hah, you go away :) I still do and always will ask silly questions |
| 10:51.16 | lehel | Gnea: ...extracting |
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| 10:51.41 | Gnea | liable: you drive on the wrong side of the road*%@#($ ;) |
| 10:51.57 | liable | Gnea: I thought I was helping quite well (up untill that point) |
| 10:52.10 | drac | Heh, you are holding hands for full kernel compilation? :P |
| 10:52.11 | Gnea | liable: hehehe i am kidding, it's all good |
| 10:52.11 | liable | Gnea: what *is* right |
| 10:52.33 | lehel | Gnea: finished.. now what? |
| 10:52.37 | liable | Gnea: what is *normal* hehe |
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| 10:53.09 | Gnea | lehel: you read the webpage? it says how to do the kernel there - do you have a /boot/config-*SOMETHING*HERE* ? |
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| 10:53.19 | Gnea | liable: duhr.... :P |
| 10:53.19 | liable | lehel: cd /usr/src |
| 10:53.42 | liable | lehel: is the kernel-source there? |
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| 10:54.22 | gilles | hello all |
| 10:54.38 | gilles | is there a prescription against availlable against entropy_avail = 0 ? |
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| 10:54.44 | Gnea | Based in high-tech Huntsville, Alabama, <-- ROFL!!! |
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| 10:54.48 | lehel | liable: Yes |
| 10:54.52 | lcore | I want to set ownership of /dev/tty1[1-9] to root:uml-users. I run chown and it works well till restart. After reboot the ownership is root:root again. How to change this? |
| 10:55.14 | liable | lehel: your in /usr/src? |
| 10:55.27 | lehel | liable: dev01:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27# |
| 10:55.35 | lehel | ok? |
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| 10:55.55 | liable | lehel: cd /usr/src |
| 10:55.56 | Gnea | lehel: ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27 /usr/src/linux <-- that makes a symbolic link (symlink) |
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| 10:56.41 | liable | lehel: ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27 linux |
| 10:56.49 | liable | Gnea: bah too fast |
| 10:56.56 | xoz | lcore: /etc/udev/permissions.rules |
| 10:56.57 | amorphix | whats the deal with kcontrol. anyone know why it seems to be inaccessible in kde |
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| 10:57.21 | Gnea | ghey-dee-eee? |
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| 10:57.44 | liable | Gnea: you calling me gay :) |
| 10:57.46 | sep | gilles: you can increse your poolsize to have it store more entropy for needed situations |
| 10:57.48 | lcore | xoz, thanx |
| 10:58.00 | Gnea | liable: NO :P |
| 10:58.05 | sep | gilles: or just do stuff on the box to create entropy |
| 10:58.08 | lehel | done!.. now? |
| 10:58.14 | gilles | sep: the problem is that it's a vserver |
| 10:58.14 | liable | Gnea: even if I use KDE |
| 10:58.27 | gilles | so i don't know how the entropy is collected on such beast |
| 10:58.31 | PerfDave | amorphix: Are you running Sid? |
| 10:58.52 | lehel | liable: Gnea: after that? |
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| 10:59.02 | liable | lehel: ok, cd /usr/src/linux |
| 10:59.06 | Gnea | lehel: do you have the /boot/config-2.4.something file? |
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| 10:59.41 | Administrador | How to download a Bit Torrent Debian ISO using Firefox 1.0.3 ? |
| 10:59.42 | liable | lehel: ls -l /boot |
| 10:59.55 | Gnea | Administrador: install a client |
| 10:59.59 | Gnea | and run it |
| 11:00.10 | lehel | Gnea: i have! |
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| 11:00.20 | lehel | liable: after |
| 11:00.22 | Administrador | Gnea, Thanks I will searck with google for a client |
| 11:00.33 | Gnea | lehel: cool! cp /boot/config-2.4.whatever /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 11:00.40 | sep | gilles: /proc/sys/kernel/random/poolsize if it's to low then it can run out before it get a chance to recover |
| 11:00.44 | Gnea | lehel: then in /usr/src/linux, type 'make oldconfig' |
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| 11:01.03 | Gnea | Administrador: you don'tknow how to use debian?? |
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| 11:01.21 | gilles | gilles: the poolsize is 512 so i assume it's low... maybe some other vserver on the host is eating all the entropy |
| 11:01.28 | hellz | hi, is anybody running squid, i ned some sample log files |
| 11:01.49 | lehel | Gnea: ev01:/usr/src/linux# make oldconfig |
| 11:01.49 | lehel | make: *** No rule to make target `oldconfig'. Stop. |
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| 11:02.09 | renzo | I installed a new kernel and now I get Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs |
| 11:02.11 | sep | gilles: if there is many servers on there id bump it up significantly |
| 11:02.11 | Gnea | lehel: uh, you did make the symlink right? |
| 11:02.17 | jm_ | hellz: many people are running squid |
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| 11:02.37 | DMJC | where can you get debian for amd 64 ? |
| 11:02.38 | gilles | gilles: i can't write the poolsize but i'll ask the administrator to do it, thanks |
| 11:02.41 | xoz | renzo: forgot initrd? |
| 11:02.43 | hellz | store.log, cache and access, can someone send me sample logs |
| 11:02.44 | Gnea | !amd64 |
| 11:02.44 | dpkg | methinks amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 11:02.46 | renzo | when I isntalled woody I had to use the compact mode kernel, so I guess this problem is due to my scsi hd |
| 11:02.54 | liable | lehel: cp /boot/2.4.27 .config |
| 11:03.01 | hellz | jm_:i need it for designing a analyser |
| 11:03.01 | xelam | renzo: you probably havent got drivers for the disk controller |
| 11:03.27 | jm_ | hellz: well in that case it would be best if you install it and take a look at the files it will generate for you |
| 11:03.31 | lehel | Gnea: i'd make the symlink |
| 11:03.43 | renzo | xoz: just installed the apt kernel image... |
| 11:03.43 | liable | lehel: cp /boot/config-2.4.27 .config |
| 11:03.44 | sep | gilles: make a crontab that cat's some file to /dev/null regulary :) or some other wierd scheme of action |
| 11:03.52 | Gnea | lehel: if you ls -l /usr/src/linux/ do you get a lot of files and directories? |
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| 11:04.00 | gilles | sep updatedb should be fine i think :-) |
| 11:04.02 | hellz | jm_:i am installing, but i don't have a full fledge network to have a large log file |
| 11:04.06 | liable | lehel: ls -a |
| 11:04.06 | gilles | but the problem is that it doesn't help |
| 11:04.15 | renzo | xelam: what do I have to change that? or do I have to compile the kernel myself in this case |
| 11:04.18 | liable | lehel: do you see a .config |
| 11:04.19 | gilles | updatedb && cat entropy_avail returns 0 |
| 11:04.20 | xoz | renzo: you have to specify in lilo or grub the location of initrd image that comes with the kernel image |
| 11:04.27 | jm_ | hellz: I doubt someone with such setup will send a logfile to you ;) |
| 11:04.36 | lehel | dev01:/usr/src/linux# ls -l /usr/src/linux |
| 11:04.36 | lehel | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 10 2005-04-29 12:08 /usr/src/linux -> linux-2.4/ |
| 11:04.47 | hellz | jm_: i may have asked something different, sorry |
| 11:04.53 | lehel | dev01:/usr/src/linux# ls -a |
| 11:04.53 | lehel | . .. .config kernel-source-2.4.27 |
| 11:04.57 | liable | lehel: cd/usr/src/linux |
| 11:05.08 | jm_ | hellz: you can also check out other squid logfile analysers |
| 11:05.14 | renzo | xoz: shouldn't dpkg normally do this on his own? |
| 11:05.14 | Gnea | hellz: you should setup your own, generate them for an hour or two and then run it |
| 11:05.20 | lehel | now? |
| 11:05.22 | liable | lehel: well, 'make oldconfig' |
| 11:05.25 | Gnea | hellz: or search the google |
| 11:05.26 | Skyblaze | anyone knows about rhythmbox patch to display mp3 album covers? |
| 11:05.35 | lehel | dev01:/usr/src/linux# make oldonfig |
| 11:05.35 | lehel | make: *** No rule to make target `oldonfig'. Stop. |
| 11:05.37 | hellz | jm_:yes, i am cheking webalizer and a few perl scripts |
| 11:05.37 | lehel | :(( |
| 11:05.43 | xoz | renzo: failed to read the warning after you install the image? |
| 11:05.50 | hellz | Gnea: google isn't returning interesting results |
| 11:06.05 | Gnea | lehel: make oldconfig -->oldConfig<-- |
| 11:06.16 | liable | lehel: make clean |
| 11:06.18 | Gnea | hellz: then make some |
| 11:06.25 | liable | lehel: make dep |
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| 11:06.29 | hellz | Gnea: doing this now |
| 11:06.33 | lehel | dev01:/usr/src/linux# make oldconfig |
| 11:06.33 | lehel | make: *** No rule to make target `oldconfig'. Stop. |
| 11:06.35 | hellz | apt-get |
| 11:06.45 | renzo | xoz: no I read it, but it said something that the warning in most cases wouldn't have any relevance |
| 11:06.52 | Gnea | lehel: ok try this: cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27 |
| 11:06.55 | lehel | i'm getting crazy... but i have to do!:( |
| 11:07.05 | xoz | lies |
| 11:07.05 | jm_ | hellz: there's also calamaris |
| 11:07.06 | Gnea | lehel: and ls -l |
| 11:07.30 | xoz | it tells you to indicate the location of initrd |
| 11:07.57 | Gnea | lehel: ok cool |
| 11:08.05 | umbop | where do you put the default gateway in debian? |
| 11:08.26 | xelam | you set it with "route" |
| 11:08.28 | Gnea | lehel: what result of this: ls -l /usr/src/linux ? |
| 11:08.32 | lehel | ok |
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| 11:08.53 | umbop | i thought there were scripts |
| 11:08.58 | umbop | that did it all as appose ifconfig, route etc |
| 11:09.03 | lehel | Gnea: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 10 2005-04-29 12:08 /usr/src/linux -> linux-2.4/ |
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| 11:09.10 | Gnea | ! |
| 11:09.12 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 11:09.16 | Gnea | liable: YOU! |
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| 11:09.20 | Gnea | lehel: ok, do this: |
| 11:09.25 | Gnea | lehel: rm /usr/src/linux |
| 11:09.38 | Gnea | lehel: ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27 /usr/src/linux |
| 11:09.40 | liable | Gnea: why me |
| 11:09.52 | Gnea | liable: you confused him. |
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| 11:10.00 | liable | Gnea: in wrong directory |
| 11:10.06 | Gnea | LOL |
| 11:10.09 | liable | Gnea: not my fault |
| 11:10.21 | Gnea | well anyway |
| 11:10.22 | liable | maybe it was |
| 11:10.23 | Gnea | :P |
| 11:10.33 | liable | pfffft |
| 11:10.55 | Gnea | w00! |
| 11:11.02 | lehel | ev01:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27# rm /usr/src/linux |
| 11:11.02 | lehel | dev01:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27# ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27 /usr/src/linux |
| 11:11.02 | lehel | dev01:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27# |
| 11:11.03 | Gnea | amorphix: good, send me some money |
| 11:11.05 | liable | Gnea: I confuse myself quite a lot |
| 11:11.09 | lehel | ok? |
| 11:11.23 | Gnea | lehel: ok now: cd /usr/src/linux |
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| 11:11.44 | Gnea | lehel: do you know how to use tab completion? |
| 11:11.51 | lehel | yes;) |
| 11:11.56 | Gnea | shweet! |
| 11:12.04 | Skyblaze | do you have problems with the latest update of "powernowd" package on sid? |
| 11:12.08 | Skyblaze | it doesn't start |
| 11:12.13 | Gnea | lehel: cp /boot/config-2<TAB> /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 11:12.54 | Gnea | Skyblaze: depends on the hardware and kernel setup |
| 11:13.06 | Gnea | amorphix: for real? i'll go pick it up this morning! |
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| 11:13.15 | amorphix | :) |
| 11:13.17 | Gnea | :) |
| 11:13.29 | lehel | dev01:/usr/src/linux# cp /boot/config-2.4.27-2-686-smp /usr/src/linux/.config |
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| 11:13.32 | lehel | ok |
| 11:13.36 | amorphix | :-( |
| 11:13.44 | liable | Gnea: <tab> no such directory :-) |
| 11:13.48 | Gnea | i just got paid too but i pay bills |
| 11:13.50 | amorphix | a life without beer is a life without purpose |
| 11:13.58 | lehel | ok? |
| 11:13.59 | Gnea | w00t |
| 11:14.03 | Skyblaze | Gnea, th same as before the update |
| 11:14.12 | Skyblaze | it never changed |
| 11:14.15 | Gnea | lehel: awesome. now cd /usr/src/linux |
| 11:14.18 | Gnea | lehel: make oldconfig |
| 11:14.19 | Gnea | :) |
| 11:14.56 | lehel | ;)))))yeaaaaaah |
| 11:14.59 | Gnea | Skyblaze: well i've tried running it on some newer laptops and i've had problems with it |
| 11:15.04 | lehel | *** Next, you must run 'make dep'. |
| 11:15.08 | Gnea | :D |
| 11:15.13 | yel | how can restart sshd on debian ? |
| 11:15.21 | yel | i installed a newer version |
| 11:15.21 | Gnea | yel: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 11:15.24 | Skyblaze | Gnea, well for me all ok until the latest update |
| 11:15.26 | Xenguy | amorphix: that reminds me, breakfast time =) |
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| 11:15.30 | Gnea | it should have restarted automagically |
| 11:15.46 | lehel | Gnea: now can i "make dep" ? |
| 11:16.23 | Gnea | lehel: yes. |
| 11:16.52 | Gnea | i gotta find these cards cheap, my boss will go crazy! |
| 11:16.53 | lehel | "make"-ing;) |
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| 11:17.41 | drac | make dep? what distro is that? |
| 11:17.54 | renzo | xoz: so now I tried to start a rescue system with the debian cd but I run into the same error |
| 11:17.54 | liable | drac: 2.6 of course |
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| 11:18.07 | renzo | how do I get back into my system to fix my problems? |
| 11:18.12 | yel | i compiled the new version of sshd in sources and want to use it now after stopping the old one how can i do that Gnea please ? |
| 11:18.13 | drac | but not on debian, or he would use make-kpkg of course. |
| 11:18.30 | liable | drac: bah, kernel headers |
| 11:18.30 | Gnea | yel: compiled it what? |
| 11:18.38 | yel | openssh |
| 11:18.41 | lehel | Gnea: DONE! ...now? |
| 11:18.42 | Gnea | drac: one step at a time here buddy |
| 11:18.50 | Gnea | lehel: make bzImage |
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| 11:19.28 | liable | Gnea: woh, I dont think thats what was needed |
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| 11:19.40 | amorphix | lol |
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| 11:20.12 | directhex|work | why is lehel not using make-kpkg? |
| 11:20.29 | liable | lehel: what are you doing, you should be able to compile that progie now |
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| 11:21.05 | lehel | ..still "make"ing the bzImage |
| 11:21.24 | Gnea | directhex|work: because i told him not to yet. |
| 11:21.29 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - ive got a 2.6 kernel running in sarge. can anybody tell me how to get the nvidia kernel for 2.6 without downloading and compiling my own kernel? |
| 11:21.31 | liable | lehel: you dont need that |
| 11:21.52 | liable | lehel: are you not just compiling a program |
| 11:22.08 | lehel | ? |
| 11:22.12 | Gnea | leave the guy alone he's doing fine |
| 11:22.13 | liable | lehel: and just need the headers |
| 11:22.45 | Gnea | we'll get to make-kpkg later |
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| 11:22.49 | liable | Gnea: explain, all he wanted to do was compile a program |
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| 11:23.21 | liable | Gnea: make dep should be enough |
| 11:23.28 | Gnea | liable: it requires an alignment |
| 11:23.38 | liable | Gnea: huh |
| 11:23.45 | directhex|work | !m-a a-i nvidia Super_Cat_Frog |
| 11:23.46 | dpkg | nvidia Super_Cat_Frog: apt-get install module-assistant && m-a a-i a-i |
| 11:23.47 | directhex|work | bah |
| 11:23.55 | directhex|work | i screwed that one up |
| 11:23.59 | directhex|work | !m-a nvidia Super_Cat_Frog |
| 11:24.00 | dpkg | Super_Cat_Frog: apt-get install module-assistant && m-a a-i nvidia |
| 11:24.02 | Gnea | what the |
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| 11:24.08 | Super_Cat_Frog | thanks |
| 11:24.20 | directhex|work | !tell Super_Cat_Frog about non-free sources |
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| 11:24.48 | lehel | tools/build -b bbootsect bsetup compressed/bvmlinux.out CURRENT > bzImage |
| 11:24.49 | lehel | Root device is (3, 1) |
| 11:24.49 | lehel | Boot sector 512 bytes. |
| 11:24.49 | lehel | Setup is 4871 bytes. |
| 11:24.50 | lehel | System is 900 kB |
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| 11:24.56 | Starf^Work | whats the change mod command again is it chmod and chown for owner? |
| 11:25.03 | Gnea | lehel: not here :) |
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| 11:25.15 | lehel | xcuses! |
| 11:25.17 | Gnea | lehel: now make modules |
| 11:25.18 | lehel | it's ok? |
| 11:25.26 | Gnea | yes, just don't do it again |
| 11:25.28 | Gnea | ;) |
| 11:25.44 | Gnea | or they'll punt you out |
| 11:25.50 | Sm4sh | nobody have the memory leaked problem in firefox? |
| 11:26.20 | Gnea | Sm4sh: nobody has it, someone probably does, everybody is bound to and anybody could have it. |
| 11:26.21 | mooded | anybody knows how ifconfig can specify the link-type of a card ?? (like full/half-duplex ?? ) |
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| 11:26.52 | lehel | "...precated.. "? is this a problem? |
| 11:26.53 | mooded | i cant find anything in the man-page.. |
| 11:27.08 | Gnea | lehel: what is deprecated? |
| 11:27.10 | mooded | lehel, its becoming a problem sometimes.. |
| 11:27.11 | liable | lehel: cant you just make asterix now? |
| 11:27.28 | lehel | ..still makeing.. |
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| 11:27.36 | Gnea | oh |
| 11:27.50 | lehel | i'll try asterisk too.. later |
| 11:27.54 | Gnea | liable: you hush! n00b in training here! :P |
| 11:28.02 | liable | Gnea: know what I meen? |
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| 11:28.08 | Gnea | liable: yes. |
| 11:28.09 | Super_Cat_Frog | thanks directhex |
| 11:28.09 | Gnea | :) |
| 11:28.20 | lehel | # |
| 11:28.29 | liable | Gnea: hehe |
| 11:28.59 | liable | Gnea: your confusing the poor lad |
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| 11:29.23 | Super_Cat_Frog | which file in debian is for autoloading 2.6 kernel modules on boot? |
| 11:29.25 | Gnea | liable: stop blaming me for your deficiencies :P |
| 11:29.34 | liable | heh |
| 11:29.42 | Gnea | Super_Cat_Frog: module-init-tools |
| 11:29.49 | Super_Cat_Frog | thanks |
| 11:29.54 | Gnea | np |
| 11:29.56 | directhex|work | Super_Cat_Frog, /etc/modules is fine. |
| 11:30.00 | lefti | Hi, Is a way to do apt-get upgrade, when i haven't all package needed as dependencies ? |
| 11:30.01 | liable | Gnea: i STARTED IT, YOU FINISH EH? |
| 11:30.15 | liable | fucking caps lock |
| 11:30.21 | Gnea | liable: /NICK LEHEL && /JOIN #DEBIAN WHAT!? :) |
| 11:30.34 | lehel | ? |
| 11:30.37 | Gnea | lol |
| 11:30.47 | Gnea | lehel: no worries |
| 11:30.50 | dizzz | hello, i'm quite unexperimented with gnulinux, my problem is that i cannot find the package nvidia-kernel-2.6.7-1-k7 but my /etc/apt/sources.list didnt change and is correct... i had this package before but after having uninstalled it i cannot reinstall it... help! ;) |
| 11:31.22 | directhex|work | dizzz, 2.6.7-1- is completely insecure and obsolete |
| 11:31.28 | lehel | it takes so much time? "make"ing the modules? |
| 11:31.29 | umbop | hmm if you enabled port 21 for ftp , that would only work in active mode then wouldn't it, as passive mode negotiates the port from the client side? |
| 11:31.46 | directhex|work | dizzz, firstly, you need to upgrade your kernel (to kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7) |
| 11:31.54 | liable | lehel: just try making whatever it was you were trying to make |
| 11:31.56 | dizzz | oooohkay thank directhex|work |
| 11:32.06 | directhex|work | dizzz, secondly, apt-get install module-assistant && module-assistant auto-install nvidia |
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| 11:32.17 | Super_Cat_Frog | one last question - can anybody tell me how to move from XFree86 to xorg in sarge? |
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| 11:32.30 | lefti | I have installed package, but i don't need all functions, so i installed it with --force-all. All work great. But I can't do apt-get upgrade without installing dependecies of this package. |
| 11:32.31 | directhex|work | dizzz, that will require non-free sources in /etc/apt/sources.list (/msg dpkg non-free sources) |
| 11:32.31 | dizzz | ok thanks directhex|work i'll do that then |
| 11:32.32 | liable | lehel: not modules and shit, you must have a suck ass computer :) |
| 11:32.36 | directhex|work | Super_Cat_Frog, you don't |
| 11:32.43 | fatal_ | umbop: both modes use additional ports.... active and passive just decides who's going to open the listening ports and who's going to do the connection call... (ie. who's going to be active and who's going to be passive). |
| 11:33.05 | liable | Gnea: hah, now ive got him fucked |
| 11:33.24 | Super_Cat_Frog | directhex - im stuck with xfree? |
| 11:33.54 | liable | ignore that last comment, I'm drunk again weeee |
| 11:33.58 | umbop | hmm, so if the firewall is blocking all ports but the standard ftp port, active, would make the client be passive? |
| 11:34.13 | Gnea | lol |
| 11:34.27 | directhex|work | Super_Cat_Frog, yes. |
| 11:34.31 | Super_Cat_Frog | :( |
| 11:35.03 | simonrvn | Super_Cat_Frog: stuck is a relative term |
| 11:35.13 | liable | lehel: so, what are you doing now? |
| 11:35.33 | lehel | waiting |
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| 11:35.46 | liable | lehel: for what |
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| 11:36.04 | dizzz | directhex|work, when doing "module-assistant auto-install nvidia" it tells me "bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found" |
| 11:36.06 | lehel | ...makeing modules... |
| 11:36.08 | takisd | just got my tv/radio card working... can't turn the darn radio off... any ideas??? |
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| 11:36.42 | liable | lehel: dude, you DONT need to be doing that |
| 11:36.55 | Super_Cat_Frog | how do i change my refresh rate from 75 to 85 hz? do i need to edit the vertrefresh? its currently 50-75 |
| 11:37.18 | lehel | i'm listening Gnea ... u're drunked;) |
| 11:37.29 | liable | lehel: NO THATS ME |
| 11:37.40 | Gnea | liable: I DON'T HAVE BEER NOW YOU DRINK! |
| 11:37.42 | Gnea | :) |
| 11:37.52 | liable | ahhhhh CAPS LOCK |
| 11:38.00 | Gnea | lehel: are you using lilo or grub to boot? |
| 11:38.10 | liable | to close to shift |
| 11:38.14 | Gnea | hehe |
| 11:38.54 | drac | Super_Cat_Frog: Actually, you need to use exactly correct horizontal and vertical values for your monitor to get best hz. Google might be useful. |
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| 11:39.03 | lehel | Gnea: lilo |
| 11:39.23 | drac | Super_Cat_Frog: I mean, if you don't have manual for your monitor, google the values. |
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| 11:40.26 | liable | lehel: seriously, your computer must suck if you are still waitng :) |
| 11:40.26 | Gnea | lehel: ok: make install && make modules_install |
| 11:40.26 | liable | lehel: your on woody ya? |
| 11:40.26 | lehel | it's PIV 2,4Ghz |
| 11:40.26 | lehel | still "makeing" :| |
| 11:40.36 | liable | Gnea: why are you teaching him to make a kernel? |
| 11:40.45 | lehel | why not liable ? |
| 11:41.37 | Gnea | yes, why not? :) |
| 11:41.37 | simonrvn | liable: do you have a problem? if not, then stfu please |
| 11:41.37 | liable | Gnea: I dont think that was the problem |
| 11:41.37 | simonrvn | if so, rather |
| 11:41.37 | Gnea | simonrvn: lol, he's drunk |
| 11:41.37 | liable | simonrvn: who asked you |
| 11:41.37 | Gnea | hahahha |
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| 11:41.37 | simonrvn | no reason to be such a dumbass |
| 11:41.37 | liable | simonrvn: so stfu |
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| 11:41.42 | Gnea | simonrvn: chill meng |
| 11:41.45 | Gnea | it's all good |
| 11:41.46 | simonrvn | liable: pgone matone |
| 11:42.21 | SlayerXP | simonrvn: people rarely need an encouragement or excuse to be stupid. |
| 11:42.21 | SlayerXP | any |
| 11:42.22 | Gnea | :) |
| 11:42.22 | liable | simonrvn: lastlog lehel and you might see he doesnt need a new kernel |
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| 11:42.32 | simonrvn | liable: like i said, pogue matone |
| 11:42.34 | liable | simonrvn: not fair |
| 11:42.42 | Gnea | blah |
| 11:42.42 | simonrvn | ignored |
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| 11:42.47 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 11:42.50 | liable | simonrvn: wtf does that mean |
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| 11:43.03 | Gnea | liable: it means he put you on /ignore ;) |
| 11:43.11 | liable | Gnea: not that |
| 11:43.29 | liable | Gnea: pogue matone |
| 11:44.22 | liable | fuck, why do I get ignored for that? |
| 11:44.31 | Gnea | cuz |
| 11:44.37 | Gnea | people are fucktards :) |
| 11:44.43 | petemc | itym mahone |
| 11:45.37 | Gnea | and pig latin |
| 11:45.37 | simonrvn | scots gaelic |
| 11:45.37 | liable | petemc: ? |
| 11:45.37 | Gnea | yeah yeah |
| 11:45.37 | liable | simonrvn: why |
| 11:45.37 | simonrvn | ask petemc |
| 11:45.43 | liable | simonrvn: hah, you didnt /ignore me :) |
| 11:45.43 | jethro | hah I like the quotes on poguemahone.org |
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| 11:46.20 | liable | simonrvn: not that I care :( |
| 11:47.03 | liable | simonrvn: answer me :) or have you ignored me |
| 11:47.09 | liable | hehe |
| 11:47.26 | petemc | liable: it means kiss my as |
| 11:47.27 | petemc | s |
| 11:47.44 | liable | fuck, last time I try to help someone |
| 11:47.59 | liable | petemc: i'm not like that :0 |
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| 11:48.14 | petemc | liable: he means it in the most endearing sort of way |
| 11:48.18 | petemc | im sure |
| 11:48.23 | liable | hehe |
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| 11:48.42 | Administrador | Is able, the current Sarge CD, to reduce a WindowsXP partition ? |
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| 11:48.53 | petemc | Administrador: no |
| 11:49.04 | Administrador | petemc, Any advice? |
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| 11:49.10 | jethro | erd commander |
| 11:49.13 | xoz | Administrador: you can try parted |
| 11:49.22 | streuner | Partition Magic |
| 11:49.25 | petemc | Administrador: use something from the ntfs tools suite or parted to resize it prior to installing |
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| 11:49.40 | liable | simonrvn: well, you would be ignored too, if I didnt think you could help me :-) |
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| 11:49.50 | Administrador | thanks to all: So I will use parted |
| 11:49.55 | dizzz | i cannot install the package nvidia-kernel-2.6.8-1-k7 "E: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernel-2.6.8-1-k7" and when i do a google search about it it only finds 4 hits... what is going on? shouldnt that be the package i'm supposed to install to have the nvidia drivers with kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7? |
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| 11:50.10 | Rawplayer | !nvidia |
| 11:50.10 | dpkg | nvidia is, like, DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 11:50.17 | streuner | Adminstrador: if you using vfat, you can use fips |
| 11:50.21 | Rawplayer | !nvidia one-liner |
| 11:50.22 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia one-liner is apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential module-assistant && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. see <non-free sources> |
| 11:50.25 | directhex|work | dizzz, you ignored me. why should i help you, if you'll just ignore me again? |
| 11:50.28 | directhex|work | !nvidia-kernel |
| 11:50.28 | dpkg | nvidia-kernel packages do not exist any more - they were too much of a pain to keep in synch with kernel-images. To install an nvidia-kernel package, apt-get install module-assistant && m-a a-i nvidia |
| 11:50.29 | Gnea | dizzz: no because the version is off by one number |
| 11:50.37 | Gnea | !spam |
| 11:50.37 | dpkg | methinks spam is a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) , razor or crm114 (but be ready to train it for a week) |
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| 11:50.48 | Gnea | :) |
| 11:50.51 | simonrvn | channel spam... |
| 11:51.02 | Rawplayer | !corned beef |
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| 11:51.03 | Rawplayer | hehe |
| 11:51.05 | Rawplayer | :P |
| 11:51.08 | Gnea | aww dude |
| 11:51.17 | Gnea | gimme some wheat bread and cheese with that |
| 11:51.21 | dizzz | sorry directhex|work i tried what you told me - did i miss something... going to reread your posts |
| 11:51.22 | Gnea | and BEER |
| 11:51.24 | Gnea | :D |
| 11:51.37 | simonrvn | 9 grain organic bread;p |
| 11:51.44 | Gnea | mmm |
| 11:52.10 | directhex|work | dizzz, there are NO NVIDIA-KERNEL PACKAGES IN DEBIAN. you need to CREATE one with module-assistant |
| 11:52.30 | Gnea | dizzz: listen to directhex|work, he's a know-it-all. |
| 11:52.32 | Gnea | er |
| 11:52.33 | Gnea | :) |
| 11:53.04 | simonrvn | i was a bit hard on liable, but still, behaving like that, sheesh. lay off the booze if you behave that way |
| 11:53.17 | Gnea | or better yet |
| 11:53.21 | Gnea | have some booze yourself :P |
| 11:53.26 | liable | simonrvn: yes way too hard |
| 11:53.39 | simonrvn | no, i'm a pot person myself |
| 11:53.41 | dizzz | okokok thanks - but you didnt seem to read my post after that |
| 11:53.45 | Gnea | oh geez |
| 11:53.45 | dizzz | directhex|work, when doing "module-assistant auto-install nvidia" it tells me "bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found" |
| 11:53.50 | Gnea | bad mix :) |
| 11:54.04 | Gnea | simonrvn: that's ok i used to do both |
| 11:54.07 | directhex|work | dizzz, "uname -r" says what? |
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| 11:54.41 | drac | dizzz: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-k7 build-essential module-assistant, BOOT, m-a a-i nvidia, apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-settings. |
| 11:54.45 | dizzz | 2.4.27-2-k7 --- ok so i need to reboot on the installed 2.6.8 ? |
| 11:54.45 | simonrvn | i got mean once on booze, don't want that again (not violent, but not nice either) |
| 11:54.55 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
| 11:55.14 | directhex|work | dizzz, you need to reboot to the kernel you intend to use |
| 11:55.25 | dizzz | oooooook thanks - and sorry for being that noobish :/ |
| 11:55.45 | liable | Gnea: correct me if i'm wrong, lehel, needed kernel headers to build a package, not a new kernel? |
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| 11:55.58 | mokomull | Can one reload a driver on the fly with XFree86? I have a touchpad, and when I sleep with ACPI, the X11 driver doesn't work, forcing me to restart X. But once I restart X, it works again. |
| 11:56.19 | simonrvn | restart only AFAIK |
| 11:56.33 | directhex|work | mokomull, welcome to the exciting world of why xfree86 sucks |
| 11:56.38 | jethro | :) |
| 11:56.42 | Gnea | liable: lehel also needed to learn how to use the system a bit |
| 11:56.45 | mokomull | directhex|work: Well can Xorg do that? |
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| 11:56.52 | Gnea | you don't just setup a SOHO and not learn something :) |
| 11:56.56 | directhex|work | mokomull, i don't know, but xfree86 4.3 can't |
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| 11:57.20 | liable | Gnea: yes, but...... tahts all he needed yes? |
| 11:57.25 | mokomull | All right then... I'll work on getting the driver to see ACPI suspends then... thanks, directhex|work |
| 11:57.49 | liable | Gnea: just trying to work out, why I have become a troll |
| 11:57.50 | Gnea | liable: do you prefer shoes being shoved down your throat or handed to you in a box?:) |
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| 11:58.09 | directhex|work | i prefer flip-flops |
| 11:58.12 | Gnea | heh |
| 11:59.49 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 12:00.07 | liable | Gnea: and deserved ?ignore |
| 12:00.22 | petemc | liable: i wouldnt worry about it too much |
| 12:00.33 | Gnea | liable: that's not my call :) |
| 12:00.34 | petemc | onwards and upwards, etc |
| 12:00.41 | Gnea | indeed |
| 12:01.16 | caphuso | and down, not across |
| 12:01.21 | petemc | :) |
| 12:01.31 | Gnea | diagonal! |
| 12:01.44 | petemc | all the time twirling, twirling! |
| 12:01.53 | directhex|work | towards freedom? |
| 12:02.07 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 12:02.41 | liable | directhex|work: nah, towards simonrvn's excruitiating death :) |
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| 12:02.50 | Gnea | ! |
| 12:02.55 | petemc | way to kill a joke |
| 12:02.58 | simonrvn | liable: fuck you |
| 12:03.13 | liable | simonrvn: I thought you ignored me |
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| 12:03.25 | Gnea | i think he thought we were back onto the joke line |
| 12:03.44 | nimrod_ | hello, can someone tellme how can i decompress a bz2 file ? |
| 12:03.45 | Gnea | i think... |
| 12:03.50 | simonrvn | back you go onto the list, fuckface |
| 12:03.51 | PerfDave | nimrod_: bzip2 |
| 12:03.52 | directhex|work | nimrod_, .bz2, or .tar.bz2? |
| 12:03.57 | xoz | bunzip |
| 12:04.00 | nimrod_ | tar.bz2 |
| 12:04.02 | Gnea | bunzip2 |
| 12:04.04 | liable | simonrvn: can we be freinds |
| 12:04.10 | directhex|work | tar jxvf foo.tar.bz2 |
| 12:04.13 | Gnea | lol |
| 12:04.15 | BlackLabel | lol |
| 12:04.39 | liable | simonrvn: just joking, fuck, you're sensitive |
| 12:04.47 | Gnea | he's stoned :P |
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| 12:05.02 | liable | can someone relay that message |
| 12:05.09 | jethro | liable: why bother? |
| 12:05.18 | liable | seeing as im ignored |
| 12:05.24 | xoz | stop trolling please |
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| 12:05.45 | liable | xoz: not trolling, you FUCKHEAD |
| 12:05.57 | Gnea | heh |
| 12:06.04 | Gnea | 'fuckhead' <-- word of the day |
| 12:06.06 | xoz | liable, watch your mouth |
| 12:06.10 | jethro | liable: stop insulting as well |
| 12:06.19 | liable | sorry |
| 12:06.36 | dizzz | ok thank you guys everything's working now |
| 12:06.36 | xoz | let's stick to the /topic |
| 12:06.42 | Gnea | liable: i think you need to go take a massive piss |
| 12:06.45 | jethro | now I suggest you take this nice cup of stfu and have a walk outside, then come back once you're chilled a bit |
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| 12:07.08 | liable | ok |
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| 12:08.29 | Gnea | cuz you took it too far |
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| 12:08.41 | jethro | holy cow |
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| 12:09.05 | michal__ | hi.. anyone know how to generate the sequence 001 to 041 using a bash command or a unix command? |
| 12:09.12 | bbrazil | michal__: seq |
| 12:09.18 | jethro | michal__: seq 1 41 |
| 12:09.27 | jethro | michal__: then pad with 0 if needed |
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| 12:09.38 | michal__ | jethro: how can i pad? |
| 12:09.42 | jethro | michal__: man seq? |
| 12:09.54 | michal__ | bugger.. what package is seq part of? |
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| 12:10.07 | pir4_ | i have a problem: im trying to install the nvidia drivers and they say that i dont have "libc", in what package i can find that library ? |
| 12:10.07 | streuner | !search |
| 12:10.08 | dpkg | i heard search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 12:10.14 | jethro | !tell michal__ -about search |
| 12:10.19 | jethro | damn it too slow |
| 12:10.32 | PerfDave | pir4_: How are you trying to install the nvidia drivers? |
| 12:10.37 | streuner | pir4_: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 12:10.56 | pir4_ | PerfDave with the .run package that they have in their website |
| 12:11.03 | michal__ | ok.. what is the path for seq then? can't search without that |
| 12:11.03 | jethro | !lart pir4_ |
| 12:11.23 | PerfDave | pir4_: Don't use that. It will break your system. |
| 12:11.27 | PerfDave | pir4_: /msg dpkg nvidia installer |
| 12:11.32 | jethro | michal__: try the apt-file tip dpkg gave you, it works |
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| 12:12.17 | pir4_ | PerfDave i have Debian-64, is not in the repositorys of sarge |
| 12:12.25 | jethro | michal__: it's in coreutils, so you should have seq already |
| 12:12.53 | streuner | pir4_: #debian-amd64 |
| 12:12.55 | PerfDave | pir4_: No, you'll have to pull the specific packages from sid. The procedure is detailed. |
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| 12:14.13 | michal_ | jethro: thanks |
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| 12:16.08 | liable | xoz: I appologise, the fuckhead thing was a bit harsh. |
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| 12:17.20 | soccos | what should I use to play wmv 9 files? |
| 12:17.36 | caphuso | soccos: mplayer, xine, vlc |
| 12:17.43 | tarzeau | rm |
| 12:17.51 | liable | caphuso: dont back me, you'll be an asshole too |
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| 12:17.56 | jharrisonwk | caphuso: excalation of what? |
| 12:18.00 | Gnea | caphuso: liable's drunk, simon was stoned and i'm not. :P |
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| 12:18.05 | caphuso | liable: i can handle that |
| 12:18.15 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: hey! |
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| 12:18.19 | caphuso | in fact, i got a t-shirt saying "i'm proud to be an ass hole" :-) |
| 12:18.28 | streuner | haha |
| 12:18.36 | Gnea | :) |
| 12:19.16 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: hey |
| 12:19.20 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: :) how are you? |
| 12:19.44 | liable | caphuso: yeah, but you got friends here, I dont |
| 12:19.54 | soccos | caphuso: WMV3? (seems to rule out vlc) |
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| 12:19.59 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: i'm fine thanks. it's sunny and there's this blue sky |
| 12:20.15 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: yes the blue sky is nice and sunny is good too |
| 12:20.22 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: panoramic view, and not too hot where we are placed |
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| 12:20.42 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: don't you people also have a large ozone hole on your islands? |
| 12:21.04 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: not that I know of |
| 12:21.07 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: http://janja.djsworld.net/images/bahamas.jpg |
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| 12:21.27 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: http://www.greenturtleclub.com/bahamas.jpg |
| 12:22.08 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: damn looks that nice! |
| 12:22.14 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: do you have more, with women on it ? |
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| 12:22.55 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: the right one is where i am (middle left) http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/div/find_sed.html |
| 12:22.58 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: looking |
| 12:23.27 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: this is in sweden? |
| 12:23.43 | jethro | switzerland |
| 12:23.47 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: no, .ch like cheese and chocolate |
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| 12:24.11 | jharrisonwk | .ch is switzerland? |
| 12:24.14 | jethro | yes |
| 12:24.18 | daffy-pkf | lo |
| 12:24.56 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: I know a swiss baker here |
| 12:24.56 | jharrisonwk | mmmmmm |
| 12:24.56 | jethro | a swiss bank you mean? :) |
| 12:25.10 | jharrisonwk | there are swiss banks too |
| 12:25.17 | jharrisonwk | but I know a swiss BAKER |
| 12:25.23 | jethro | heh |
| 12:25.25 | jharrisonwk | that bakes swiss pastries |
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| 12:25.34 | jethro | what kind of pastries? |
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| 12:25.44 | jharrisonwk | swiss ones? |
| 12:25.50 | jethro | there are plenty of |
| 12:25.56 | jharrisonwk | im not swiss |
| 12:25.58 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: you've ever had turkish food? |
| 12:26.00 | jethro | I m not either |
| 12:26.04 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: no but I would like to |
| 12:26.07 | jethro | just used to live near the border :) |
| 12:26.11 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: there are not much turks here |
| 12:26.18 | jharrisonwk | :) |
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| 12:26.39 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: exported turkish food is lowest quality |
| 12:26.39 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: here is a picture with women but they are fat |
| 12:26.39 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: if you really want to eat good, go to turkey |
| 12:26.40 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: its cool though they are standing in the water with a shark swimming by them |
| 12:26.54 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: old too |
| 12:27.01 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: and men that are fat and old |
| 12:27.04 | jharrisonwk | and no shirt |
| 12:27.07 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: damn you! |
| 12:27.08 | jharrisonwk | ew |
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| 12:27.40 | jharrisonwk | ok they are definately tourists |
| 12:27.51 | liable | tukish coffee is *good* |
| 12:28.06 | liable | turkish even |
| 12:28.10 | jharrisonwk | here is another picture and the sharks are getting into a mating frenzy and they are all in the water feeding them |
| 12:28.16 | jharrisonwk | thats really smart |
| 12:28.38 | Starf^Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.07 | jharrisonwk | Starf^Work: is php4 installed with mysql support? |
| 12:29.17 | jharrisonwk | Starf^Work: do you have libapache-mod-php4 |
| 12:29.21 | jharrisonwk | er |
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| 12:29.26 | Starf^Work | i installed the php4-mysql module yes |
| 12:29.31 | jharrisonwk | maybe its libapache-mod-php |
| 12:29.33 | Starf^Work | libapache/ |
| 12:29.34 | Starf^Work | oooo |
| 12:29.37 | Starf^Work | mayb not |
| 12:29.40 | Starf^Work | will check |
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| 12:29.51 | Paganist | In a script, i would apt-get some packages and set as argument or by any other way the answers to the prompts... anyone knows how to do this ? |
| 12:30.14 | jethro | Paganist: which prompts? |
| 12:30.28 | jethro | Paganist: debconf questions? |
| 12:30.55 | Starf^Work | jharrisonwk, i just did an apt-get install on the libapache one are you sure its the right package? |
| 12:31.32 | JeffWilson12 | I ran memtest86 over night as suggested last night here, and memtest86 found no problems (ran for 9 hours). So, the INIT panic I got last night is probably a software issue....the INIT panic I got was: 'Segmentation violation at 0xffff433! Sleeping for 30 seconds.'; the system never came back from sleeping, and I had to force shutdown. I did an apt-get dist-upgrade an hour before I got this panic. I'm running Debian 3.1 |
| 12:31.32 | JeffWilson12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.53 | JeffWilson12 | Damnit. Why does XChat do that? It should have told me I was out of character space. |
| 12:31.53 | jharrisonwk | Starf^Work: yes |
| 12:31.53 | Paganist | jethro: yes, debconf questions |
| 12:32.16 | jharrisonwk | Starf^Work: now you have to make sure the php4 module is loaded in /etc/apache/modules.conf |
| 12:32.44 | Starf^Work | its not using the modules.conf the apache loadmodule command is direct in the httpd.cnf/ |
| 12:32.51 | Starf^Work | i am using debian stable |
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| 12:33.07 | Paganist | Starf^Work: so it's all in httpd.conf |
| 12:33.11 | Starf^Work | yes |
| 12:33.20 | jethro | Paganist: man apt-get /assume yes |
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| 12:33.22 | Paganist | Starf^Work: check also you set the application handler |
| 12:33.25 | Danar | libapache-mod-php4 |
| 12:33.26 | Starf^Work | say what |
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| 12:33.53 | liable | JeffWilson12: try another update and upgrade, running sid? |
| 12:33.57 | Paganist | jethro: yes but when debconf asks for an fqnd or any other string, what then ? |
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| 12:34.31 | jethro | Paganist: what are you trying to do ? |
| 12:34.43 | Starf^Work | ok another angle, i got a machine that works fine, the HD has had a load of Inode errors one boot up time and i am assuming the HD is on its way, how can i transfer the entire contents to a new hd that i can slap in as a replacement with all the other hware the same? |
| 12:34.49 | Starf^Work | is there any special reqs? |
| 12:34.52 | Paganist | jethro: automatising kerberos5 install |
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| 12:35.21 | jethro | Paganist: there are things you HAVE to configure interactively, unless you modify the package, and the default configuration shipped |
| 12:35.36 | Paganist | hum |
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| 12:35.43 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.duke.edu/~jfb10/bahamas/Bridges%2520poll%2520smoking.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.duke.edu/~jfb10/bahamas/&h=480&w=640&sz=56&tbnid=XhybMKY9pmcJ:&tbnh=101&tbnw=135&hl=en&start=9&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbahamas%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG |
| 12:35.48 | jharrisonwk | ew |
| 12:35.55 | jethro | huge one |
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| 12:36.02 | Paganist | jethro: yes, seems i'll have to do that way |
| 12:36.09 | jethro | Paganist: indeed |
| 12:36.11 | Gnea | jharrisonwk: never heard of http://tinyurl.com ? |
| 12:36.22 | jharrisonwk | yes I have |
| 12:36.30 | Starf^Work | anyone at all? |
| 12:36.32 | jethro | Paganist: /m dpkg nm guide; in case you need info on how to build packages |
| 12:36.43 | Starf^Work | just need to clone the hd and pop the dieing one out |
| 12:37.04 | liable | Starf^Work: man dd |
| 12:37.18 | Paganist | jethro: i take care of a package, thank you, the only thing i dono about is how interactive config are made, i'll check it out |
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| 12:37.33 | liable | Starf^Work: or partimage |
| 12:37.38 | Starf^Work | can i take the pair of them and stick them into another machine and copy the contents of drive a to drive b and then drive b would boot |
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| 12:37.51 | tarzeau | jethro: tinyurl is great to scare people with obfuscated goatse links |
| 12:37.56 | jethro | Paganist: it's all about scripts shipped in the package, you should tweak the preinst/postinst one |
| 12:38.00 | jethro | tarzeau: :) |
| 12:38.02 | sep | is there any site that goes in the depth of the what the difference is in the different apache2-mpm-* variants of apache one can install. Im going to replace a RH9 that have a mix of dynamic php sites and static sites, and want to understand the different apache2 packages |
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| 12:38.09 | jharrisonwk | tinyurl is not working |
| 12:38.20 | Paganist | jethro: yes, i guessed so. Thanks :) |
| 12:38.21 | jethro | tarzeau: is your goatse domain valid again? :) |
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| 12:38.30 | tarzeau | jethro: i ever had one? |
| 12:38.39 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: is that your site? |
| 12:38.45 | tarzeau | jethro: not sure, can you check: www.goatse.org/mirror/ |
| 12:38.47 | jethro | tarzeau: I prolly misread, but saw you speak about some goaste.cx |
| 12:38.55 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: the man is me! |
| 12:39.00 | Starf^Work | liable, |
| 12:39.10 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: the man is you? |
| 12:39.12 | liable | Starf^Work: Starf^Work ? |
| 12:39.20 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: j/k |
| 12:39.27 | jethro | duh |
| 12:39.29 | jethro | disgusting |
| 12:39.30 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: I would hope so |
| 12:39.34 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: http://www.marinecreatures.com/images/Blacktip%20Bahamas%206.jpg |
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| 12:40.38 | TcM | hello again |
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| 12:41.13 | jethro | @wb simonrvn |
| 12:41.15 | Starf^Work | liable, can i take a new HD, put it into the machine that has the failing one and get it to carbon copy itself, so then i can take hte old drive out and the system will boot fine?, like raid1'ing a disk pair then removing the original disk and running it off the new one |
| 12:41.16 | ravenbird_ | Welcome back simonrvn, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of chaos. |
| 12:41.26 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk -> \o/ /| <- http://www.marinecreatures.com/images/Blacktip%20Bahamas%206.jpg |
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| 12:41.45 | TcM | i have a big probblem with my apache server can anybody help me? |
| 12:41.49 | tico | do anybody know how can i put colors in vim or joe like x-chat using ctrl+k and code number? |
| 12:42.20 | Gnea | tico: in vim - :syntax enable |
| 12:42.38 | liable | Starf^Work: man dd, I believe so |
| 12:42.39 | tico | ??? |
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| 12:42.47 | Gnea | you type vi |
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| 12:42.48 | Gnea | or vim |
| 12:42.51 | Starf^Work | i looked at dd, i didnt understand it.... |
| 12:42.51 | Gnea | and you type |
| 12:42.55 | Gnea | :syntax enable |
| 12:42.57 | Starf^Work | it was file by file |
| 12:43.06 | tico | ok |
| 12:43.07 | Starf^Work | i need the whole hd cloned |
| 12:43.12 | tico | and then? |
| 12:43.15 | xk | does sqlite accept "INSERT INTO table VALUES (..,..)" ? |
| 12:43.25 | Starf^Work | and quickish too |
| 12:43.30 | sep | Starf^Work: you harddrive is a file /dev/hda |
| 12:43.40 | Starf^Work | sep? |
| 12:43.49 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: ? |
| 12:43.50 | sep | dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb clones hda to hdb partitions and everything |
| 12:43.59 | Starf^Work | ok thank you |
| 12:44.00 | hellop | Ok, so using debian sarge, I have a 3COM nic, works on a toshiba laptop, doesn't on an IBM thinkpad 240, with the same HD. Can someone help? |
| 12:44.03 | sep | replace acordingly |
| 12:44.12 | sep | hellop: upgrade your kernel |
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| 12:44.21 | Paganist | Starf^Work: basicaly, in linux, everything is a file |
| 12:44.24 | hellop | sep, I just upgraded to 2.4 |
| 12:44.40 | Starf^Work | sep: do i need to prepare the old harddrive or will it overwrite the partitions? |
| 12:44.46 | jharrisonwk | Starf^Work: careful with that |
| 12:44.49 | Starf^Work | sorry the new one |
| 12:44.49 | Gathond | Starf^Work: you might make it alot more efficient if you specify a larger blocksize than the default though |
| 12:44.58 | jharrisonwk | Starf^Work: dont dd the wrong drive to the wrong drive |
| 12:45.02 | Starf^Work | lol |
| 12:45.04 | Starf^Work | :) |
| 12:45.12 | sep | Starf^Work: overwrite |
| 12:45.16 | Starf^Work | do i need to prepare the new drive, like format it? |
| 12:45.32 | jharrisonwk | Starf^Work: no I dont think so |
| 12:45.35 | Starf^Work | n00b sorry |
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| 12:45.36 | sep | Starf^Work: nope |
| 12:45.39 | Gathond | Starf^Work: no, it will copy the partition table/filetable and everything |
| 12:45.43 | jharrisonwk | Starf^Work: dd does block by block duplication |
| 12:45.46 | Starf^Work | ok and the hd's being different sizes is ok? |
| 12:45.50 | Gathond | Starf^Work: note that that includes any sizi information |
| 12:45.55 | Starf^Work | sizi? |
| 12:46.00 | Starf^Work | size |
| 12:46.01 | sep | Starf^Work: just make sure your destination is equal or larger then your source |
| 12:46.01 | Starf^Work | :) |
| 12:46.04 | Starf^Work | larger |
| 12:46.08 | Starf^Work | wayyyyyy arger |
| 12:46.12 | Starf^Work | ok will try it |
| 12:46.17 | Gathond | Starf^Work: different size does not matter, though the copied partitions and filesystems will have the old sizes |
| 12:46.46 | sep | Starf^Work: then youll have free space on the end of your new disk |
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| 12:47.14 | Gathond | Starf^Work: so if you want to make any partitions larger in the process it is probably easier to make the partitions on the new disk and then dd over one partition at a time |
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| 12:47.44 | Gathond | Starf^Work: after which you can probably (most filesystems support this) make the filesystems larger so they fit the new partition size |
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| 12:48.15 | xk | erp |
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| 12:49.29 | Starf^Work | single partition i think |
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| 12:50.13 | zeeeee | hi all, i can run X apps (eg xterm) over ssh fine, but when i su as another user on the remote box, i can no longer run X apps... how might i get around this? |
| 12:50.43 | xk | zeeeee: "su -" ? |
| 12:50.57 | zeeeee | xk: yes, i do "sudo su - <usr>" |
| 12:50.59 | sep | !sux |
| 12:50.59 | dpkg | it has been said that sux is su with xauth, to run X apps as root: http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about.", or apt-get install sux, or something that anyone who spells "sucks" as "sux" does. |
| 12:51.59 | zeeeee | sep: please, enlighten me...what should i do instead |
| 12:52.10 | sep | zeeeee: or just ssh into the remote as the user you want to run the X app as, instead of su - |
| 12:52.35 | sep | you can try the sux command (install if it's not there), |
| 12:52.39 | xk | no wonder it didn't work... damn ownership of file was root. |
| 12:52.45 | sep | just a tip, iv never done what your trying to do. |
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| 12:52.51 | Starf^Work | how does one confirm which hd is hda and which is hdb? |
| 12:52.53 | hellop | Question: how do you install pcmcia chipset drivers? |
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| 12:53.04 | xk | Starfury^: dmesg| grep hd |
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| 12:53.08 | Starf^Work | ta |
| 12:53.29 | xk | or grep sector |
| 12:53.44 | Starf^Work | if you get hundreds of inode error and journal errors is that hd problems? |
| 12:53.46 | xk | well... if it's IDE... you _must_ know what you connected to primary/secondary, master/slave ;) |
| 12:54.06 | xbalanque | hi all, I wanted to force apt to download and install a package, but it keep complaining about unmet dependencies. Is there a way to overcome this (like --force-all in dpkg), and tell it not to care ? Or just to download the .deb so that I install it with dpkg ? Thks for any help! :) |
| 12:54.26 | xk | Starfury^: any other errors? |
| 12:54.42 | wombachi | xbalanque first try apt-get -f install ? |
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| 12:54.51 | Starf^Work | fsck had to be run manually |
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| 12:54.59 | tico | how can i put ANSI code color in vim? |
| 12:55.19 | wombachi | Starf^Work hd problem: boot from rescue cd, then fsck to avoid pblms |
| 12:55.22 | xk | Starfury^: errors such as... hrm... well.. IO errors, not fs errors. |
| 12:55.24 | wombachi | tico :help digraphs |
| 12:55.25 | xbalanque | wombachi: It will uninstall hundreds of packages it doesnt need to |
| 12:55.26 | sep | Starf^Work: if you have a hd with errors dd_rescue would be convinient for you |
| 12:55.37 | Starf^Work | sep? |
| 12:55.45 | tico | wombachi ?? |
| 12:55.46 | xk | dpkg: find dd*rescue |
| 12:55.52 | Starf^Work | the system boots fine every time since the problems# |
| 12:55.52 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'dd*rescue' (1): (/bin/dd_rescue, /usr/share/doc/ddrescue/{README.dd_rescue.gz|changelog.Debian.gz|copyright}) in utils/ddrescue. |
| 12:56.05 | tico | wombachi i wanna do it in vim |
| 12:56.40 | sep | xbalanque: if you have met the dependencis by other means then deb packages you can use equiv to satisfy apt |
| 12:57.05 | wombachi | tico ansi seq are only special chars. You can enter them via vim digraphs, or ctrl-q iirc. :help in vim leads to... vim help. :help digraphs leads to help about digraphs |
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| 12:57.28 | Starf^Work | sep: its booted without error since the big load of errors, can i just dd it across and if fails then use dd rescue? |
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| 12:57.30 | xbalanque | sep: I'm trying to downgrade from the experimental gnome-2.10, I'm just trying to force down the packages to unstable |
| 12:57.41 | mh_le | how do I configure a second soundcard with alsamixer? |
| 12:58.00 | xbalanque | sep: if I do apt-get -f install it will remove all gnome packages -- there are a lot ... that I will install again later ... |
| 12:58.02 | streuner | xbalanque: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 12:58.06 | sep | Starf^Work: yes |
| 12:58.06 | cahoot | mh_le: alsamixer -c1 |
| 12:58.22 | hellop | $20 via paypal to anyone who can get my NIC working on a Thinkpad 240! |
| 12:58.35 | cahoot | mh_le: /proc/asound/cards tells you which is which |
| 12:58.36 | xbalanque | streuner: yes, it is the new one: ii libc6 2.3.5-1 |
| 12:58.36 | mh_le | cahoot: wrong -c argument 'l' |
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| 12:58.46 | reagent | hellop: :) |
| 12:58.48 | mh_le | cahoot: oh it's a 1.. |
| 12:58.53 | streuner | xbalanque: #ubuntu |
| 12:59.03 | streuner | !info libc6 sid |
| 12:59.03 | reagent | hellop: What type of NIC is that? |
| 12:59.06 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-21 (sid), Packaged size: 4786 kB, Installed size: 15556 kB |
| 12:59.09 | xbalanque | streuner: hm ? |
| 12:59.22 | LSorensen | hellop: pcmcia card? |
| 12:59.32 | Starf^Work | sep: original hd is about 8gb new is 40gb any options/args you would suggest after the dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb ? |
| 12:59.39 | hellop | reagent: 3COM PCMCIA 10/100 3cxfe575ct |
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| 12:59.49 | mh_le | cahoot: I get this error.. mads@mh-desktop:~$ alsamixer -c1 |
| 12:59.50 | mh_le | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for hw:1: No such file or directory |
| 12:59.55 | LSorensen | hellop: make sure you load the right pccard socket driver on each one, since the ibm and toshiba likely have different pcmcia controllers. |
| 12:59.59 | hellop | works on toshiba laptop, not on IBM, so drivers are there |
| 13:00.11 | cahoot | mh_le: check /proc/asound/cards |
| 13:00.16 | sep | Starf^Work: only what gathond said about the blocksize |
| 13:00.20 | LSorensen | hellop: 3com driver may be there, that doesn't mean you loaded the right driver for the slot |
| 13:00.26 | wombachi | tico ansi seq starts with 'esc' (27, 0x1b). in vim, try ctrl-k ^ [ |
| 13:00.32 | Starf^Work | couldnt see any block size opt/arg |
| 13:00.40 | reagent | hellop: Should work with th ewortex module |
| 13:00.43 | hellop | LSorensen: I don't really know how to check/change it. |
| 13:00.44 | reagent | vortex* |
| 13:00.54 | Gathond | Starf^Work: i think it is bs=size in bytes (default being 512 bytes) |
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| 13:01.11 | Starf^Work | what should i use |
| 13:01.28 | DwyaneWade | hey how can i see the Free space available on the hard disk? |
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| 13:01.31 | Gathond | Starf^Work: the idea is that if there are enough memory then it is more efficient for the drive to copy as many blocks as possible in one go |
| 13:01.48 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: that were ascii pictures of you and a shark |
| 13:01.50 | mh_le | cahoot: there isn't anything in that file |
| 13:01.57 | Gathond | Starf^Work: although the drive itself have a limit on the maximum size it copies in one command |
| 13:01.57 | zeeeee | sep: if you're wondering... sux didn't work |
| 13:01.57 | Starf^Work | think it may have 256mb |
| 13:02.09 | Starf^Work | shjould i just go with the default? |
| 13:02.11 | cahoot | mh_le: no alsa loaded then? |
| 13:02.15 | hellop | reagent: can you give me just a hint at where to start? menuconfig? |
| 13:02.31 | LSorensen | hellop: do you run woody, sarge or sid? |
| 13:02.38 | hellop | LSorensen: sarge |
| 13:02.40 | mh_le | cahoot: it should be.. my other sound card is working just fine with alsa |
| 13:02.55 | jethro | streuner: is your question about the libc aimed at spotting ubuntu lusers? :) |
| 13:03.00 | tico | wombachi coould you explain it to me again 'cause i lost the conection plz |
| 13:03.06 | Starf^Work | used default |
| 13:03.19 | LSorensen | hellop: well the 3 most common controllers are: i82092 i82365 yenta_socket |
| 13:03.27 | streuner | jethro: well, i make sure we support debian not ubuntu ;-) |
| 13:03.31 | jethro | heh |
| 13:03.31 | LSorensen | hellop: if you install hotplug and/or discover it might load the right one for you |
| 13:03.34 | Starf^Work | hmmm no output? |
| 13:03.44 | hellop | LSorensen: I know which one it is, just not how to install it |
| 13:03.46 | reagent | hellop: try modprobe 3c59x and if it's working you can install hotplug or discover |
| 13:03.46 | cahoot | mh_le: and /proc/asound/cards is empty? how about /proc/asound/pcm? |
| 13:03.55 | streuner | jethro: s(he)'s using ubuntu or something else, not debian |
| 13:03.56 | mh_le | cahoot: asound/cards is a file, right? |
| 13:04.00 | LSorensen | hellop: just add the module name (without .o/.ko) to /etc/modules |
| 13:04.11 | mh_le | cahoot: that's empty aswell |
| 13:04.15 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: oh |
| 13:04.16 | liable | hellop: get the 2.6 kernel |
| 13:04.22 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: I dont see ascii |
| 13:04.32 | jethro | streuner: I wouldn't dare doubting your conclusions ;) |
| 13:04.37 | LSorensen | hellop: add the socket driver followed by (optionally) the nic driver and you should be all set. |
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| 13:04.44 | streuner | jethro: heh? |
| 13:04.52 | hellop | last time I installed Sarge there was an option to install the 2.6 kernel, this time not. |
| 13:04.56 | streuner | jethro: just rephrase that |
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| 13:04.59 | jethro | streuner: hrm |
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| 13:05.08 | liable | hellop: linux26 |
| 13:05.17 | cahoot | mh_le: what commande do you use to check this? |
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| 13:05.24 | Starf^Work | Gathond, how long this likely to take? |
| 13:05.25 | hellop | liabke oh yeah |
| 13:05.26 | LSorensen | hellop: at the boot: prompt you either type linux (or hit enter as default) or linux26 which gives 2.6 kernel |
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| 13:05.33 | jethro | streuner: I m not questioning the fact that you can detect ubuntu users based on the libc package version :) |
| 13:05.36 | mh_le | cahoot: I use mc's file editor |
| 13:05.41 | LSorensen | hellop: same as it always was |
| 13:05.42 | hellz | hi, how do i configure telnet |
| 13:05.57 | liable | hellz: you dont |
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| 13:06.11 | LSorensen | hellop: define |
| 13:06.22 | LSorensen | hellz: define configure |
| 13:06.35 | hellz | liable: i mean how do i enable it |
| 13:06.45 | LSorensen | hellz: client or server? |
| 13:06.46 | liable | hellz: you dont |
| 13:06.56 | hellz | server |
| 13:06.58 | tico | wombachi coould you explain it to me again 'cause i lost the conection plz |
| 13:07.10 | jethro | hellz: why would you run a telnet server nowadays? |
| 13:07.10 | wombachi | tico ansi seq starts with 'esc' (27, 0x1b). in vim, try ctrl-k ^ [ |
| 13:07.20 | mh_le | cahoot: wait.. tried cat, there is something in the file |
| 13:07.33 | wombachi | tico use vim's help (:help, :help digraphs, :help ctrl-k etc) |
| 13:07.40 | mh_le | cahoot: can I query you? |
| 13:07.52 | hellz | i just need to login to this pc from a other one |
| 13:07.59 | streuner | jethro: its enough to detect debian users from NON-debian users ... ;-) |
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| 13:08.01 | reagent | hellz: use ssh |
| 13:08.07 | jethro | hellz: just apt-get install ssh |
| 13:08.16 | liable | hellz: ssh |
| 13:08.23 | cahoot | mh_le: are both cards listed or only one ? |
| 13:08.27 | jethro | hellz: telnet wont crypt unless you use ssl |
| 13:08.34 | mh_le | cahoot: only one |
| 13:08.36 | reagent | hellz: http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/ssh-howto.html |
| 13:09.06 | cahoot | mh_le: ok - so no driver loaded for the second card - explains the error from alsamixer |
| 13:09.07 | mtnman | hellz: be aware that after installing ssh, you will need to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config to allow inbound ssh connections. |
| 13:09.08 | hellz | ssh is already installed , then ? |
| 13:09.17 | hellz | ok |
| 13:09.21 | mh_le | cahoot: I see.. how can I install the second one? |
| 13:09.32 | hellz | cd etc |
| 13:09.34 | jethro | mtnman: since when do one have to do that? |
| 13:09.39 | cahoot | mh_le: modprobe the relevant module |
| 13:09.50 | DwyaneWade | How can i see how much free disk space i have available? |
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| 13:10.08 | mtnman | uh, well i did on a recent sarge install. |
| 13:10.08 | streuner | jethro: so what do you think s(he) is using actually? |
| 13:10.13 | mh_le | cahoot: and that will install it for good? |
| 13:10.20 | jethro | hellz: apt-get install ssh on both will provide you with the client and server |
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| 13:10.24 | jethro | mtnman: I didn't |
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| 13:10.41 | Function | mh_le: no, you need to add a line to /etc/modules to have it inserted at boot time |
| 13:10.49 | cahoot | mh_le: you need put the modulename in /etc/modules to make it stick at reboot |
| 13:11.17 | hellz | how do i see if ssh is running or not |
| 13:11.19 | liable | hellz: then use it |
| 13:11.30 | mtnman | hellz: psaux|grep ssh |
| 13:11.44 | jethro | hellz: ps aux | grep ssh; /etc/init.d/ssh status, netstat -anp --inet | grep :2, there are loads of ways |
| 13:11.47 | mtnman | hells: correction: ps aux|grep ssh |
| 13:11.48 | wombachi | hellz or netstat -t |grep ssh |
| 13:11.53 | hellz | ok |
| 13:11.54 | cahoot | pgrep |
| 13:12.02 | jethro | yeah pgrep, lsof, ... |
| 13:12.02 | mh_le | cahoot: thanks, the second soundcard has the same chip as the first one already installed, how do I tell the module that it's the second card and not the first? |
| 13:12.27 | andax | I see this message in dmesg output (last line) "spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.", and /proc/interrupts error counter is rising fast. Crashes happen around twice a day. There is nothing on irq, and nothing plugged on the LPT port. (woody/2.4.28+grsec apic is off) |
| 13:12.55 | andax | can I somehow disable irq7 or anything like that? |
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| 13:13.42 | wombachi | andax try kernel param 'noapic' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APIC |
| 13:13.43 | Function | andax: I think it's a driver/hardware-ish problem |
| 13:13.43 | cahoot | mh_le: I suppose you do that as an alias in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base or such (if kernel-2.6.x) |
| 13:13.46 | jm_ | andax: I see that too but I just ignore it, no crashes |
| 13:14.22 | Function | maybe that was one of his crashes |
| 13:14.22 | Function | heh |
| 13:15.10 | wombachi | andax those irq problems are often apic or acpi related, especially on older motherboards |
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| 13:15.53 | mh_le | cahoot: cool... are there any options I need to be aware of? |
| 13:16.27 | `Sphere` | hello.. need some help setting up X11 on a fresh install |
| 13:17.07 | mh_le | cahoot: or do I just insert the alias and I'm done? |
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| 13:17.25 | mtnman | sphere: rephrase as a question. |
| 13:17.59 | jethro | !tell `Sphere` -about setup x |
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| 13:18.57 | `Sphere` | alright.. I just did a fresh install.. system is up, have cygwin\x installed and working on my pc, but I can't get xhost through putty to open up windows on my display.. how can I do that ? |
| 13:19.19 | mtnman | sphere: so this is a win32 system, not debian? |
| 13:19.24 | xk | reinstall your windows box with linux |
| 13:19.30 | abrotman | heh |
| 13:19.32 | PerfDave | `Sphere`: You shouldn't need to use xhost. Just enable X forawding in PuTTY, ssh in and run an X application. |
| 13:19.33 | Grumbler | ditto |
| 13:19.45 | `Sphere` | PerfDave -> that's what I did |
| 13:19.48 | `Sphere` | still not worknig |
| 13:19.55 | `Sphere` | worked on any other distribution I tried |
| 13:20.10 | xk | like... redhat? |
| 13:20.12 | drac | 'any other' .. |
| 13:20.18 | xk | define other |
| 13:20.20 | `Sphere` | fedora\mandrake\suse |
| 13:20.25 | `Sphere` | but I didn't like those |
| 13:20.28 | jm_ | `Sphere`: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 13:20.42 | xk | and stop using windows slashes |
| 13:20.58 | PerfDave | `Sphere`: Have you enabled X forwarding in your SSH server config? |
| 13:21.01 | jethro | and backquotes too |
| 13:21.01 | jethro | :'( |
| 13:21.05 | xk | heh |
| 13:21.12 | PerfDave | `Sphere`: Have you tried using verbose logging on your SSH conneciton to diagnose the problem? |
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| 13:21.56 | `Sphere` | yeah |
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| 13:22.03 | `Sphere` | looks like like I need to sshd_config.. |
| 13:22.05 | `Sphere` | trying that now |
| 13:22.20 | jethro | `Sphere`: edit for what? |
| 13:22.27 | Starf^Work | Gathond, |
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| 13:22.29 | Starf^Work | you there? |
| 13:22.33 | Gathond | yes |
| 13:22.34 | DMJC-L | !udevb |
| 13:22.36 | DMJC-L | !udev |
| 13:22.36 | dpkg | it has been said that udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , or broken and shit, or <stew> anymous: its not a trojan, its udev |
| 13:22.41 | Coolerdo | Hello all.. Im having problem when trying to install sarge with kernel 2.6 on a acer tm8103... the boot halt after the message "uncompressing linux.." |
| 13:22.55 | Coolerdo | does anyone had the same problem |
| 13:22.56 | Coolerdo | ? |
| 13:22.57 | DMJC-L | hmmm broken on debian.. that explains a lot |
| 13:22.59 | Starf^Work | how long this likely to take on a athlon 800 (orig drive is 8gb, new drive is 40gb) |
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| 13:23.07 | xk | Coolerdo: verified md5sums of CD media? |
| 13:23.07 | liftmeup | hmm |
| 13:23.11 | Gathond | Starf^Work: dont know |
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| 13:23.18 | liftmeup | does anyone know is there a program |
| 13:23.25 | liftmeup | to use in terminal for instant messanging? |
| 13:23.29 | Gathond | Starf^Work: you might be able to get dd to show a progress bar |
| 13:23.31 | Starf^Work | hours, days? |
| 13:23.33 | Coolerdo | xk yes.. the cd image is okey.. i could install it with 2.4 kernel |
| 13:23.37 | PerfDave | liftmeup: Yes |
| 13:23.39 | timo | liftmeup, plenty |
| 13:23.41 | Starf^Work | what mid flow? |
| 13:23.46 | Coolerdo | xk but when I try to put kernel 2.6 it halts |
| 13:23.47 | Gathond | Starf^Work: probably hours (if that) |
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| 13:23.51 | sep | Starf^Work: an houer maybe 1.5 |
| 13:23.51 | liftmeup | PerfDave whats the name and can i use it for MSN? |
| 13:24.08 | Starf^Work | sep ok, |
| 13:24.15 | Starf^Work | Gathond, thanks |
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| 13:24.19 | sep | Starf^Work: more important are your udma level then your cpu |
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| 13:24.23 | mejo | is 'debchange --news' really broken, or is the problem on my side? |
| 13:24.30 | PerfDave | liftmeup: apt-cache search msn |
| 13:24.37 | Starf^Work | hda and hdb both say dma |
| 13:24.38 | sep | Starf^Work if your runnin on pio1 then it's going to take ages :) |
| 13:24.42 | liftmeup | PerfDave im not on my debian computer atm |
| 13:24.44 | xk | Coolerdo: I'm not aware of what kernel options are needed... but I"m sure something has to be added... like noapic maybe... or acpi=off... that's a wild guess... and a starting point. |
| 13:24.48 | Starf^Work | and on same controller |
| 13:24.49 | sep | then just sit down and watch the show |
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| 13:24.59 | liftmeup | PerfDave really need some msn client, playing from pure terminal atm |
| 13:25.01 | Starf^Work | udma 33 ffor both |
| 13:25.02 | PerfDave | liftmeup: http://packages.debian.org/ and search there. |
| 13:25.22 | Starf^Work | old drive has 512kb cache, new has 2mb cache |
| 13:25.25 | PerfDave | liftmeup: So search for one on pdo. |
| 13:25.38 | xk | Starfury^: are you going to dd it? |
| 13:25.39 | Starf^Work | agggg hda is 13000mb not 8000mb |
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| 13:25.45 | Starf^Work | xk already am |
| 13:26.01 | xk | well, without setting bs=... it will take _years_ :) |
| 13:26.02 | Essobi | ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has laaaaaaanded! |
| 13:26.15 | Starf^Work | xk, well noone was answering me as to what to set |
| 13:26.15 | Coolerdo | xk can I put this options on grub too? |
| 13:26.23 | abrotman | Essobi: that's not required |
| 13:26.29 | xk | Coolerdo: yes, "e" then added it... enter.. b to boot. |
| 13:26.32 | sep | Starf^Work: i clone > 240 GB a day youll be fine |
| 13:26.49 | Starf^Work | is it worth ctrl-c is and restarting it with a bigger boot block, also is it worth moving the new hd onto the ther controller? |
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| 13:26.57 | sep | Starf^Work: nope |
| 13:26.59 | Coolerdo | xk thank u.. will try it now :D |
| 13:27.01 | Starf^Work | ok |
| 13:27.01 | xk | Starfury^: bs=100k or 1000k |
| 13:27.17 | mh_le | I just ran alsaconfig to try and detect the second card but it only detected one, and now none of them play |
| 13:27.23 | Essobi | abrotman Is anything REALLY required? Are we all really here or we just dreaming we're on IRC in some biochemical shared hallicination? |
| 13:27.25 | xk | otherwise it will copy in 1k chunks... and I've seen it make a scsi setup take years to copy. |
| 13:27.29 | Starf^Work | does it only copy the data amount, or even freespace as 60 - 75% is empty |
| 13:27.29 | abrotman | Essobi: stop being an ass |
| 13:27.35 | Essobi | :P |
| 13:27.43 | xk | Starfury^: _everything_ |
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| 13:27.51 | Starf^Work | now who do i believe, sep or xk |
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| 13:28.19 | xk | does dd have knowledge of filesystem? no. |
| 13:28.20 | Essobi | Jeez, who peed your your cherrios this morning? |
| 13:28.37 | Starf^Work | xk does starf have knowledge of dd, no |
| 13:28.50 | xk | well, it's your fucking fault for not putting any effort into it. |
| 13:28.51 | Dull4o4 | is it safe to apt kernel26 ? ... im having problem getting the sound to work with 2.4 kernel |
| 13:28.53 | Starf^Work | i was meaning, who shall i believe about length of time |
| 13:29.01 | Starf^Work | xk, chill ya beans dude |
| 13:29.01 | abrotman | Dull4o4: in sarge? |
| 13:29.09 | McKillroy | When I have told dpkg something - can i correct it somehow ? |
| 13:29.14 | sep | Starf^Work: it will go faster xk's way, but since your allready there i'd say i woudnt have bothered |
| 13:29.15 | abrotman | McKillroy: what did you tell him? |
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| 13:29.22 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, yes. i normaly use snd-es1938 module, but its not even here :/ |
| 13:29.31 | McKillroy | abrotman: rsync-backup |
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| 13:29.33 | xk | Starfury^: if you don't want to listen to me... that's your problem. |
| 13:29.36 | mh_le | can someone help me please? |
| 13:29.42 | abrotman | Dull4o4: should be ok .. don't see why not |
| 13:29.50 | michael_ | How can I set language ? |
| 13:29.51 | abrotman | Dull4o4: just make sure you follow the instrcutions it gives you |
| 13:29.54 | abrotman | McKillroy: yes .. you can |
| 13:30.11 | abrotman | erm .. |
| 13:30.12 | aliumalik | mh_le: go on |
| 13:30.12 | McKillroy | abrotman: Link to How-To pls ... |
| 13:30.20 | abrotman | how did dpkg get two rsync-backup factoids? |
| 13:30.21 | Starf^Work | its been running for 30 mins |
| 13:30.23 | jethro | !pls |
| 13:30.23 | dpkg | Cud u plz spk englsh bcuz wen u spk lke ths u luk lke a moron. |
| 13:30.26 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, modprobe snd-es1938, says it cant be found |
| 13:30.28 | abrotman | McKillroy: no link i'm aware of |
| 13:30.30 | McKillroy | I told him two times ... |
| 13:30.33 | abrotman | Dull4o4: try discover |
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| 13:30.41 | abrotman | McKillroy: yes .. but he should only have one |
| 13:30.48 | McKillroy | Didnt want rsync-backup to appear as a separate tool. |
| 13:30.48 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, ok |
| 13:30.51 | abrotman | McKillroy: how about i have him forget both of them .. and you retell him? |
| 13:30.56 | McKillroy | good |
| 13:31.07 | xk | Starfury^: if it's 13gigs to copy... it will take... 13000/10... ~20 mins minimum. |
| 13:31.08 | abrotman | McKillroy: err .. how about all three of them ? |
| 13:31.14 | McKillroy | Argh ... sorry ... |
| 13:31.17 | McKillroy | Yes ! |
| 13:31.17 | abrotman | McKillroy: then just pick one :) |
| 13:31.19 | xk | but since you're not using bs=100k... it will take maybe 3 hours ;) |
| 13:31.21 | mh_le | aliumalik: I just ran alsaconfig on debian sarge in order to detect a 2nd sound card. but when it was over, it didn't detectt he second one and the first one dosen't work, ie. I can't turn up the volume in gnome, it always default to 0 |
| 13:31.22 | Starf^Work | ok thanks |
| 13:31.30 | McKillroy | I'll be more careful ... i promise |
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| 13:31.43 | abrotman | McKillroy: there .. only tell him once .. |
| 13:31.48 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, discover found : ESS Technology ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive |
| 13:31.56 | abrotman | Dull4o4: that is wrong ? |
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| 13:31.58 | Starf^Work | xk, anyway to get a progress report out of dd? |
| 13:32.08 | xk | Starf^Work: this aint windows. |
| 13:32.19 | Starf^Work | xk, verbose maybe |
| 13:32.21 | Starf^Work | lol |
| 13:32.22 | hellop | LSorensen: I added i82365 to /etc/modules, rebooted, but it doesn't show in lsmod. rmmod yenta-socket says: Device busy |
| 13:32.27 | sep | Starf^Work: you can hup i belive and it will say how far it's gone |
| 13:32.34 | Starf^Work | hup? |
| 13:32.41 | hellop | How do I remove yenta-socket drive and install i82365? |
| 13:32.42 | McKillroy | abrotman: Argh ... info is already in .. no need to tell him again stupid /me... |
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| 13:32.44 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, i dont know. allways been using 1938 module before with 2.6 kernel in other distros |
| 13:32.46 | liftmeup | gqyuit |
| 13:32.47 | liftmeup | quit |
| 13:32.50 | aliumalik | mh_le: I am afraid I cannot help on that one...never tried this...the best I can say is remove & purge alsa packages and try installing them again |
| 13:32.57 | sep | Starf^Work: no you SIGUSR1 it |
| 13:32.58 | abrotman | Dull4o4: your sound doesn't work as root or you? |
| 13:33.13 | mh_le | aliumalik: okay, how do I do that? |
| 13:33.14 | Starf^Work | sep ? |
| 13:33.14 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, neither root, or me |
| 13:33.24 | abrotman | Dull4o4: then upgrade to a 2.6 if you think it will help |
| 13:33.50 | aliumalik | mh_le: are you running some DE like gnome or kde? |
| 13:33.53 | Starf^Work | sep, mind if i msg you? |
| 13:33.56 | sep | Starf^Work: kill -USR1 $pidofdd |
| 13:34.01 | mh_le | aliumalik: yeah, gnome |
| 13:34.07 | sep | Starf^Work: yes, please dont |
| 13:34.25 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, strange.. it seems like i dont have the right modules installed |
| 13:34.26 | Starf^Work | and that will show me how far it has got? |
| 13:34.34 | abrotman | Dull4o4: uname -r |
| 13:34.35 | xk | or killall -USR1 dd |
| 13:34.51 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, 2.4.27-1-386 |
| 13:34.57 | Starf^Work | lol seems odd writing kill to get a progress |
| 13:35.06 | abrotman | Dull4o4: should be fine afaik .. go ahead and try a 2.6 if you want |
| 13:35.07 | Starf^Work | i assume on another console |
| 13:35.18 | sep | Starf^Work: you know reading man dd would perhaps help you to understand a bit more about what your currently doing |
| 13:35.24 | hellop | Is there no way to rerun the think that detects NIC's during install? |
| 13:35.32 | aliumalik | mh_le: open synaptic and search installed packages for alsa uninstall it and there should be some purge option with it enable that too. If you cannot find purge option try "dpkg -P <alsa package name>" in the console |
| 13:35.35 | Starf^Work | the man dd i looked at only had options and arguements |
| 13:35.40 | abrotman | hellop: discover is used afaik |
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| 13:36.06 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, maybe i need to reboot... i did a grub upgrade |
| 13:36.14 | hellop | abrotman: ran that, detected parallel port |
| 13:36.15 | abrotman | Dull4o4: erm .. ok .. if you think so :) |
| 13:36.22 | abrotman | hellop: woohoo .. you can print! |
| 13:36.31 | abrotman | hellop: dmsg | grep -i eth |
| 13:36.32 | abrotman | err |
| 13:36.35 | abrotman | dmesg |
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| 13:37.00 | hellop | nada |
| 13:37.08 | abrotman | what kind of card is it? |
| 13:37.13 | hellop | http://pastebin.ca/10550 but there is dmesg |
| 13:37.15 | abrotman | (please don't say ISA) |
| 13:37.18 | Ins|de | hi there, how can i see what packages has files in /etc/kde3 for example |
| 13:37.34 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, where are the modules located? |
| 13:37.46 | abrotman | hellop: pcmcia nic ? |
| 13:37.48 | hellop | abrotman: 3COM PCMCIA 10/100 3CXFE575CT. Very common card. |
| 13:38.02 | abrotman | Dull4o4: /lib/modules or somewhere around there |
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| 13:38.23 | abrotman | hellop: see the part where it's unloading your PCMCIA stuff ? |
| 13:38.26 | aliumalik | anyone with broadcom try 2.6.11 I heard they removed drivers for the ethernet cards |
| 13:38.40 | abrotman | hellop: oh wait .. your card is right there |
| 13:38.42 | SlayerXP | aliumalik: you heard wrong. |
| 13:38.52 | abrotman | hellop: see eth0 ? |
| 13:38.58 | hellop | abrotman, I had to install on a toshiba, becuase Thinkpad has no CD. I think it's loading the wrong chipset drivers. yenta maybe? |
| 13:38.58 | unhappy | is there a floppy based sarge |
| 13:39.01 | unhappy | is there a floppy based sarge |
| 13:39.08 | abrotman | hellop: your card is listed |
| 13:39.11 | aliumalik | SlayerXP: you are running both of 'em together? |
| 13:39.13 | hellop | abrotman: notice there are two dmesgs there, the second one is from toshiba |
| 13:39.18 | abrotman | ah .. gotcha |
| 13:39.37 | abrotman | hellop: is the first a full dmesg ? |
| 13:39.37 | Starf^Work | waits for dd |
| 13:39.42 | abrotman | unhappy: floppy installer? |
| 13:39.47 | aliumalik | SlayerXP: look @ this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=318350 |
| 13:39.51 | hellop | abrotman: yes frist from IBM, second toshiba |
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| 13:40.17 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, looking in /lib/modules/2.4.27-1-386/kernel/drivers/sound |
| 13:40.17 | Dull4o4 | , and no snd-es1938 /1969 module there :( |
| 13:40.21 | streuner | hellop: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 13:40.25 | abrotman | hellop: try checking linux-laptop.net briefly .. it might have some clues |
| 13:40.39 | abrotman | Dull4o4: quite odd .. maybe try a 686 kernel ? |
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| 13:40.46 | abrotman | Dull4o4: do you want to stay with 2.4 ? |
| 13:40.47 | mwilson | Yeah, but that's lq.org... not worth paying any attention to. |
| 13:40.59 | abrotman | huh? |
| 13:41.16 | hellop | streuner: 2.3.2.ds1-21 |
| 13:41.21 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, thats what i thought too.. naa i dont care, as long as it is stable and works ;) |
| 13:41.21 | mwilson | His pasted URL. No one pays any attention to lq.org. |
| 13:41.25 | abrotman | oh |
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| 13:41.35 | aliumalik | mwilson: why? |
| 13:41.36 | abrotman | Dull4o4: what CPU do you have ? |
| 13:41.41 | hellop | abrotman: when I type lsmod, I see a bunch of drivers, how do I make those not load on boot? |
| 13:41.42 | mejo | anybody using 'dch --news'? it doesn't work for me. |
| 13:41.52 | abrotman | hellop: you have to blacklist them with discover |
| 13:41.53 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, p III, 500mhz, i686 |
| 13:42.04 | abrotman | Dull4o4: so either load up a 2.4-686 or 2.6-686 |
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| 13:42.08 | streuner | hellop: ok, just run 'apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6' and pick on out of the list |
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| 13:42.19 | abrotman | streuner: misfire? |
| 13:42.22 | Dull4o4 | abrotman, thanks will give it a try :) |
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| 13:42.33 | hellop | streuner: ok, switching HDs.. |
| 13:42.44 | streuner | hellop: install that kernel and run 'modprobe pcmcia core, modprobe 3c575 cb' |
| 13:42.52 | abrotman | Dull4o4: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 686 or 2.4 .. which ever you want |
| 13:43.10 | hellop | streuner: I tried to reinstall 2.6 but it got stuck installing a package... |
| 13:43.23 | hellop | but I'll try apt-get it.. |
| 13:43.25 | streuner | hellop: what's the error? |
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| 13:43.43 | Ins|de | hi there, how can i see what packages has files in /etc/kde3 for example? |
| 13:43.46 | hellop | streuner: it would get to 5%, then start over, and over... |
| 13:43.58 | xk | Ins|de: /msg dpkg find etc/kde3/ |
| 13:44.08 | aliumalik | one uestion people when you are in console and you have no scroll bars is there some swithc to limit the output to the screen size so that a person can press a key when he wants to go forward. Just like dir /w in windows |
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| 13:44.33 | streuner | hellop: interrupt the apt-get install via 'CTRL - C' and just fire it up again |
| 13:44.34 | McKillroy | System Hanging: CPU 0: Machine Check exception ... 00000000000004 <=== CPU Dying ???? |
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| 13:44.56 | McKillroy | Used noapic and acpi=off |
| 13:46.04 | hellop | streuner: naa that was on a reinstall from netinst CD.. |
| 13:46.17 | LSorensen | aliumalik: like |less ? |
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| 13:46.50 | Ins|de | xk, whet ? |
| 13:46.54 | Ins|de | xk, what ? |
| 13:46.57 | streuner | hellop: prolly an error on the CD itself |
| 13:46.58 | mh_le | can someone please help me install my sound cards? |
| 13:47.03 | LSorensen | McKillroy: which cpu type and kernel version? |
| 13:47.06 | xk | Ins|de: I said what I said... it means repeat after me ;) |
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| 13:47.27 | McKillroy | LSorensen: 2.6.8-k7-smp Athlon MP 2400+ |
| 13:47.31 | abrotman | mh_le: need more hints |
| 13:47.39 | mh_le | I ran alsaconf and it found the cards but for some reason there isn't coming any sound |
| 13:47.47 | abrotman | are you in the audio group ? |
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| 13:47.53 | mh_le | abrotman: yeah |
| 13:47.59 | lilalinux | I'm using debian/sid. Does anybody know this error? configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (void *), 77 |
| 13:47.59 | abrotman | does sound work for root? |
| 13:48.05 | Ins|de | xk, ah dpkg is a bot, thanks dude ;) |
| 13:48.12 | mh_le | abrotman: I haven't checked |
| 13:48.19 | abrotman | are you running esd or arts ? |
| 13:48.19 | michal_ | i don't see any way to pad numbers to get 001 to 041 with seq :/ |
| 13:48.20 | takatumi | mh_le: unmuted? |
| 13:48.31 | jethro | michal_: then fucking read the manpage again |
| 13:48.35 | abrotman | or rather esound i guess it's called |
| 13:48.35 | mh_le | takatumi: how do I check? |
| 13:48.44 | abrotman | alsamixer |
| 13:48.46 | michal_ | jethro: how about YOU try reading the manpage for a change? |
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| 13:49.19 | takatumi | mh_le: use a mixer, install alsa-utils and run alsamixer. |
| 13:49.27 | jethro | michal_: I know how to do this with seq, I won't bother reading the manpage again |
| 13:49.32 | Delph | michal_: well, the manpage in testing has *two* flags which will go and do what you want, one with a bit more faffling. So go read it. |
| 13:49.37 | SocketERR | where i have to configure mountd to use a static port? |
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| 13:49.43 | abrotman | michal_: what are you trying to do ? ... get a number sequence from 001 to 041 ? |
| 13:49.52 | Sm4sh | gnome-alsamixer is better |
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| 13:50.21 | michal_ | jethro: i've read it and as far as I can tell it's saying it's impossible |
| 13:50.22 | mh_le | takatumi: I can set the volumes with alsa mixer, I can only set the volumes on card 0 and not on card 1 |
| 13:50.25 | abrotman | Sm4sh: you're assuming he's running gnome or kde .. or any desktop |
| 13:50.29 | michal_ | abrotman, yes |
| 13:50.36 | jethro | michal_: you need glasses |
| 13:50.42 | abrotman | and it must be 041 not 41 ? |
| 13:50.45 | jethro | michal_: or you need another manpage dealer |
| 13:50.48 | LSorensen | McKillroy: just looking for what that means |
| 13:50.57 | lawnchair | can anyone recommend a good 10/100/1000 nic server adaptor that is well supported |
| 13:50.58 | jethro | michal_: and you want to stop lying too |
| 13:51.01 | michal_ | yes.. it can't be 01 to 41 or anything other than 001 ot 041 |
| 13:51.19 | LSorensen | lawnchair: I like the marvell yukon cards. dlink dge530 for example |
| 13:51.23 | bbrazil | michal_: you don't even have to look at the manpage, just look at the --help |
| 13:51.25 | LSorensen | lawnchair: sk98lin driver |
| 13:51.29 | Coolerdo | xk hey.. I tryed to boot with "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11.7 root=/dev/hda8 ro noacpi nousb" and the boot halt again |
| 13:51.30 | abrotman | intel cards? |
| 13:51.36 | lawnchair | okay |
| 13:51.39 | lawnchair | how about intel cards |
| 13:51.39 | Coolerdo | xk any other idea? |
| 13:51.41 | takatumi | mh_le: try #alsa |
| 13:51.45 | lawnchair | im lookin at this 'intel pro 1000 mt server adaptor' |
| 13:51.46 | xk | Coolerdo: you didn't read what I said. |
| 13:51.48 | LSorensen | lawnchair: no experience past 100mbit with intel |
| 13:51.51 | mh_le | takatumi: okay :) |
| 13:51.53 | lawnchair | LSorensen, okay cool, thanks |
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| 13:51.59 | abrotman | lawnchair: i don't have one .. better to check various sites with google |
| 13:52.01 | xk | Coolerdo: I said... "noapic acpi=off" |
| 13:52.03 | lawnchair | nod |
| 13:52.08 | xk | if you want to know for sure... google for it |
| 13:52.17 | LSorensen | lawnchair: for the intel's I remember e100 driver working way better than eepro100 so maybe e1000 works too. seems expensive last I looked though |
| 13:52.17 | michal_ | bbrazil, still looks impossible |
| 13:52.20 | Coolerdo | xk ahh.. sorry.. :D |
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| 13:52.28 | lawnchair | LSorensen, okay |
| 13:52.31 | xk | Coolerdo: I'm just giving you a starting point. |
| 13:52.36 | wombachi | how can I disable ipv6 (on Sarge). lsmod shows ipv6, even with "skip=ipv6 .." in discover-modprobe.conf, alias net-pf10 off in modules.conf |
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| 13:52.51 | bbrazil | michal_: its veryp possible |
| 13:52.52 | eka | hi all |
| 13:52.58 | xk | to determine whether what I suggested works or not... then you can go from there (I wouldn't have a clue where to go from there if it fails, heh) |
| 13:53.03 | michal_ | bbrazil, try it.. you won't get 001 to 041 |
| 13:53.08 | eka | how to enable color syntax highlighting in vi? |
| 13:53.15 | jethro | michal_: for f in `seq -w 1 41`; do echo 0$f; done would do it easily |
| 13:53.16 | bbrazil | michal_: I got it to work |
| 13:53.17 | wombachi | eka :syntax on |
| 13:53.19 | LSorensen | McKillroy: Does your log show more than just that line? apparently you should have 3 lines of numbers for a machine check exception |
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| 13:53.23 | wombachi | eka (vim, not vi) |
| 13:53.29 | eka | ohh ok |
| 13:53.30 | Coolerdo | xk okey.. Ill try again |
| 13:53.45 | jethro | michal_: stop expecting one to breastfeed you and start thinking |
| 13:53.47 | michal_ | jethro, it would.. but it also proves seq can't do it |
| 13:53.48 | Coolerdo | xk thanks again |
| 13:53.52 | eka | thx |
| 13:54.10 | bbrazil | michal_: no, it merely proves that there are ways of doing it without only using seq |
| 13:54.12 | jethro | !troll michal_ |
| 13:54.22 | McKillroy | LSorensen: - there was more ... stability seems to correllate somehow with the apic / acpi flags. I'll reproduce the error and the post. |
| 13:54.26 | weasel | Milos-eu: this channel is about debian. don't query random people you don't know about some random crap |
| 13:54.26 | jethro | michal_: it also proves how stupid and close minded you are |
| 13:54.27 | Essobi | !troll self |
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| 13:54.38 | abrotman | weasel: you're so violent :) |
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| 13:54.46 | wombachi | how can I completely disable ipv6 (deb 2.6.8 kernel). the ipv6 module gets loaded, I dont know how. Do I need a hammer? |
| 13:54.50 | Essobi | Oh, oh.. I want to be a troll! |
| 13:54.54 | abrotman | you are |
| 13:54.56 | weasel | abrotman: were it my channel I'ld have kicked it |
| 13:54.56 | Essobi | !troll S.O.B. |
| 13:54.57 | LSorensen | McKillroy: if you can get all three lines it should be possible to decode them |
| 13:54.57 | jethro | use !troll me |
| 13:55.01 | Essobi | :) |
| 13:55.06 | Essobi | WEEEEEEE, I R TROLL |
| 13:55.19 | michal_ | jethro, it also shwos how close minded you are trying to argue seq can do it when you couldn't find a way to make seq do it either |
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| 13:55.24 | Essobi | Hey! I can't be a troll! I helped someone yesterday. :P |
| 13:55.31 | LSorensen | wombachi: not sure. grep ipv6 -r /etc may find what loads it |
| 13:55.35 | LSorensen | wombachi: does it matter? |
| 13:55.40 | McKillroy | LSorensen: OKI! The error occurred, when i logged in via ssh and launched synaptic. But I had similar error under different conditions, e.g. CPUo APIC error or something. |
| 13:55.50 | abrotman | weasel: i don't blame you .. since he hasn't said anything else |
| 13:56.21 | abrotman | !cheesesteak |
| 13:56.22 | dpkg | cheesesteak is probably http://philadelphia.about.com/cs/cheesesteaks/a/cheesesteak.htm or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheesesteak, or abrotman owes thomas_adam one of these |
| 13:56.24 | streuner | thomas_adam: ! |
| 13:56.25 | weasel | abrotman: an "HI. i am 27 m.\nU asl?" is not the best introduction.. |
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| 13:56.30 | La_Carotte2 | Yopla |
| 13:56.30 | jethro | michal_: go read what they say about -w, then think, then stfu |
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| 13:56.33 | NOthsouth | hello, I'm on debian sarge, and I acctualy using 611 of memory, and 724 of swap!!.. but,. I don't know why, what should I do? |
| 13:56.35 | LSorensen | McKillroy: you need the cpu exception and the bank lines that follow it |
| 13:56.43 | abrotman | weasel: well .. you could ask ops to kick him .. but he hasn't done anything in the channel yet .. so |
| 13:56.44 | Essobi | weasel Mahaha. :) |
| 13:56.52 | michal_ | jethro, but most of all it proves that you are arrogant. telling me to read the fucking manpage when that clearly did not have a solution. |
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| 13:56.59 | GeK | Hello |
| 13:57.00 | wombachi | LSorensen Yes, it's annoying. I dont use IPv6, it caused problems with Postfix, make logs harder to read. It even can be unloaded from kernel afaik :( |
| 13:57.00 | La_Carotte2 | GeK |
| 13:57.01 | La_Carotte2 | Yopla |
| 13:57.03 | weasel | abrotman: well, he clearly got my nick from this channel |
| 13:57.05 | GeK | how are you my friends? |
| 13:57.09 | michal_ | jethro, i had it doing 01 to 41 within seconds of looking at the manpage |
| 13:57.18 | abrotman | weasel: as a weasel .. you should eat him :) |
| 13:57.19 | La_Carotte2 | Eske il a d femme chaude pour cam haute??? |
| 13:57.19 | Essobi | michal_ Get over it, atleast he didn't tell you to go read the fucking source. |
| 13:57.22 | La_Carotte2 | !caro |
| 13:57.23 | DaFresh | hi all, my box run under testing, how can i install packages from sid ? |
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| 13:57.28 | GeK | is there a woman who can suck me ? |
| 13:57.28 | Sm4sh | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.33 | abrotman | GeK: go away |
| 13:57.34 | La_Carotte2 | GeK |
| 13:57.34 | streuner | !fr |
| 13:57.34 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 13:57.34 | Rom1459 | Hello La_Carotte2 |
| 13:57.36 | La_Carotte2 | Mdrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 13:57.39 | LSorensen | wombachi: hmm, never noticed a problem with it. maybe I just don't read my logs enough |
| 13:57.40 | GeK | go away |
| 13:57.40 | La_Carotte2 | Rom1459 yopla |
| 13:57.41 | GeK | why ? |
| 13:57.45 | Rom1459 | Hi² |
| 13:57.47 | jethro | michal_: you have not been able to find a solution, considering the information I gave you, it was just a matter of a for loop to padd with an extra 0 , why did you fucking stay here whining instead of figuring that out by yourself? |
| 13:57.49 | xk | erp |
| 13:57.50 | GeK | that's cool here |
| 13:57.51 | abrotman | this isn't a dating channel |
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| 13:57.54 | xk | hah |
| 13:57.54 | GeK | okay |
| 13:57.55 | La_Carotte2 | ItaChi |
| 13:57.56 | GeK | sorry |
| 13:57.57 | La_Carotte2 | Mdrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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| 13:58.05 | LSorensen | McKillroy: so can you write what the numbers/lines are? |
| 13:58.05 | La_Carotte2 | GeK banave tu parl anglais |
| 13:58.07 | Rom1459 | ItaChi youpi |
| 13:58.09 | GeK | ba ouai |
| 13:58.09 | GeK | mdr |
| 13:58.09 | jethro | !fr |
| 13:58.09 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 13:58.10 | GeK | ;) |
| 13:58.12 | La_Carotte2 | Mdrrrr |
| 13:58.16 | La_Carotte2 | Ki suce? |
| 13:58.17 | xk | stop spamming this channel |
| 13:58.18 | michal_ | jethro, did you tell me to read about for loops? no. how the fuck was i going to figure it out? read all possible man pages? |
| 13:58.19 | jethro | !ops kick the french trolls |
| 13:58.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: kick the french trolls |
| 13:58.23 | La_Carotte2 | Xk mdrrrrrrrrr |
| 13:58.27 | streuner | xk: can we can get rid of this trolls? |
| 13:58.28 | Rom1459 | Mdrrrrrrr |
| 13:58.28 | wombachi | LSorensen To read logs, logwatch is really handy |
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| 13:58.31 | ItaChi | Rob_lt |
| 13:58.31 | jethro | michal_: by using your brain? |
| 13:58.33 | GeK | La_Carotte2 #debian-fr |
| 13:58.35 | ItaChi | Rom1459 |
| 13:58.40 | Rom1459 | Vi? |
| 13:58.40 | ItaChi | XK yop |
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| 13:58.52 | ItaChi | Xk tu trapelle de moi ? |
| 13:58.54 | stromax | hello |
| 13:59.00 | Essobi | michal_ WEEEEEE! |
| 13:59.01 | jethro | ItaChi: stfu or speak english |
| 13:59.05 | michal_ | jethro, ok.. type talk to me in polish.. all you have to do is use your brain.. if you can't do it then you're a fuckign retard.. same logic as yours applied to a language |
| 13:59.17 | ItaChi | Jethro parle frnaçais jcomprend rien |
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| 13:59.25 | stromax | sarge didn't auto-config my HIS radeon 9200. what's the easiest way to configure X to use it? |
| 13:59.26 | abrotman | xk: keep going :) |
| 13:59.29 | jethro | michal_: I ain't a native english speaker either, so that's not a valid argument |
| 13:59.37 | abrotman | LSorensen: i thought you were an op |
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| 13:59.45 | Essobi | I was going to spout some obcenities at the frenchy, but I decided against it since he's handing out bans. :) |
| 13:59.50 | LSorensen | abrotman: only on efnet #linux |
| 13:59.50 | jethro | xk: thanks |
| 13:59.52 | michal_ | jethro, yes it's a valid argument.. bash scripting is a language just like any language.. |
| 13:59.55 | abrotman | LSorensen: not ircop either ? |
| 13:59.57 | drac | stromax: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 14:00.03 | drac | stromax: Use 'radeon' driver. |
| 14:00.04 | abrotman | i wonder why i thought LSorensen had power :) |
| 14:00.11 | stromax | drac: thanks :) |
| 14:00.16 | LSorensen | abrotman: that sounds like work, so no. |
| 14:00.20 | abrotman | heh |
| 14:00.21 | wombachi | What could load ipv6 module? nothing on /etc with grep -r ipv6 mod* discov* hotp* |
| 14:00.22 | jethro | michal_: but the fine behavior of thinking and looking for information is not language dependent either |
| 14:00.23 | Essobi | michal_ Dude.. Really.. Quit bitching. |
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| 14:00.26 | LSorensen | abrotman: only knowledge. no power |
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| 14:00.33 | abrotman | knowledge is power! |
| 14:00.40 | LSorensen | abrotman: apparently not always |
| 14:00.42 | jethro | michal_: so please quit bitching, and next time, think priori to whining |
| 14:00.42 | abrotman | !gijoe LSorensen |
| 14:00.42 | drac | stromax: also, modprobe drm, modprobe radeon as root, to get 3D performance, direct rendering. |
| 14:00.43 | dpkg | Now you know, LSorensen, and knowing is half the battle. Yo Joe! |
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| 14:00.52 | michal_ | Essobi, how about i tell you to fuck off and that you're a retard and then we'll see if you fuck off? or will you bitch? |
| 14:01.02 | Essobi | n0wledge is TEH l33testest. |
| 14:01.15 | Essobi | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.15 | stew | michal_: Essobi just /ignore eachother |
| 14:01.16 | Essobi | There's your fuckoff, you retard. |
| 14:01.17 | Essobi | :) |
| 14:01.27 | stew | Essobi: stop |
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| 14:01.40 | Delph | michal_: lol |
| 14:01.42 | Delph | michal_: ffs |
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| 14:01.53 | abrotman | Essobi: are you stating you're a troll? |
| 14:01.56 | McKillroy | LSorensen: Trying hard to crash the machine - no success .... seems they crash when one is in a mood not to write down stuff ... |
| 14:02.00 | Delph | michal_: seq can do it; i've just done it. Read the bit about formatting. |
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| 14:02.09 | Essobi | abrotman Nope. :) |
| 14:02.12 | Delph | man printf as well, for the syntax on formatting. |
| 14:02.13 | LSorensen | McKillroy: always write such down. you sure it's not in your syslog already? |
| 14:02.18 | sanxiyn | "The past night I had a dream. A dream, where GstObjects were flying around, trying to implement GstInterfaces, and fearing the certain death that awaits them all, called GST_STATE_NULL." -- Gergely Nagy |
| 14:02.25 | LSorensen | McKillroy: grep machine -i /var/log/syslog |
| 14:02.25 | McKillroy | LSorensen: ! I'lllook |
| 14:02.28 | sanxiyn | Sick. |
| 14:02.33 | McKillroy | k |
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| 14:02.47 | Essobi | abrotman Unless you like trolls.. I saw a french one around here somewhere. :) |
| 14:02.56 | abrotman | Essobi: knock it off |
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| 14:03.06 | SlayerXP | who wanted me? |
| 14:03.09 | Essobi | Jeez, someone need a beer. |
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| 14:03.16 | abrotman | SlayerXP: you have no idea :) |
| 14:03.18 | Essobi | s/need/needs |
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| 14:03.23 | jcb | i have a directory with alot of subdirs. how do i change permissions on the subdirs (and their subdirs) without changing it for the files? |
| 14:03.27 | abrotman | Essobi: no .. i don't .. i need less morons in my life :) |
| 14:03.36 | LSorensen | jcb: could use find |
| 14:03.39 | SlayerXP | abrotman: well, no, that's why I aksed :) |
| 14:03.42 | wombachi | jcb find /somedir -type f -exec chmod ... {} \; |
| 14:03.43 | LSorensen | jcb: what do you want to change specifically? |
| 14:03.44 | bbrazil | jcb: find -type d | xargs chmod |
| 14:03.46 | abrotman | jcb: mixture of find and chmod |
| 14:03.50 | McKillroy | LSorensen: Nothing ! only reportin the Intel machine check exception is supported for both CPUs |
| 14:03.53 | LSorensen | wombachi: don't you mean -type d? |
| 14:03.58 | jethro | michal_: just to prove sed can do it alone "seq -f 0%g 1 9; seq -f 0%g 10 41" |
| 14:04.03 | abrotman | SlayerXP: you missed the joke :) |
| 14:04.04 | LSorensen | McKillroy: oh well, have to reproduce it then I guess. |
| 14:04.05 | Essobi | abrotman You know... /quit can do wonders for the amount of morons in your life. :) |
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| 14:04.13 | wombachi | LSorensen oops, you're right. -type d, not -type f |
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| 14:04.17 | LSorensen | McKillroy: unfortunately without the bank lines the number doesn't mean anything |
| 14:04.17 | SlayerXP | abrotman: we had a joke? here? I find that hard to believe |
| 14:04.17 | abrotman | Essobi: so do it |
| 14:04.26 | stew | abrotman: /ignore |
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| 14:04.29 | McKillroy | LSorensen: It crashed ! Number following ... |
| 14:04.29 | Delph | jethro: you missed the second 0 on the first seq =:) |
| 14:04.32 | Essobi | So anyways.. |
| 14:04.36 | bbrazil | jethro: seq -f '%03g' 1 41 |
| 14:04.36 | jethro | michal_: now I hope you got the point of reading the fine manual and actually understanding it |
| 14:04.40 | LSorensen | _kch_: yay? :) |
| 14:04.44 | LSorensen | er McKillroy |
| 14:04.54 | jethro | Delph: no I didn't, but bbrazil solution is better :) |
| 14:05.00 | Milos-eu | Cao. |
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| 14:05.06 | kpanik | how can i use multiples audio sources with alsa? |
| 14:05.12 | tarzeau | abrotman: moo |
| 14:05.19 | abrotman | tarzeau: neigh!! |
| 14:05.21 | sanxiyn | There's also jot, instead of seq. |
| 14:05.27 | Delph | jethro: yes you did. seq -f 0%g 1 9 will produce 01 -> 09 |
| 14:05.30 | michal_ | jethro, if i wanted a multi step solution i could have just as easily done seq -w 1 100 |head -41.. i want to know how to do it with seq |
| 14:05.39 | LSorensen | kpanik: what do you mean? |
| 14:05.45 | jethro | Delph: ahh point |
| 14:05.46 | abrotman | Delph: use -w ? |
| 14:05.47 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's night? here it's bright like in the sky with angels blending you |
| 14:05.50 | Delph | abrotman: doesn't work. |
| 14:05.57 | Delph | abrotman: you're better off with a printf formatting system |
| 14:06.03 | jethro | abrotman: you cant -w et -f |
| 14:06.05 | abrotman | Delph: seq -g 0%g 01 41 ? |
| 14:06.09 | kpanik | LSorensen: i mean playing mp3 with xmms and avi with mplayer |
| 14:06.11 | abrotman | err |
| 14:06.15 | sanxiyn | jot -w 0%d 9 1 9 |
| 14:06.17 | abrotman | Delph: seq -w -g 0%g 01 41 ? doesn't work ? |
| 14:06.22 | McKillroy | LSorensen: CPU 1 Mechine check exception 00000000004 Bank1 f600200000000853 at 000000007ff37740 .... kernel panic cpu context corrupt |
| 14:06.25 | jethro | anyways |
| 14:06.25 | Essobi | JOT ROXS! |
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| 14:06.29 | kpanik | LSorensen: at the moment mplayer freeze til i stop xmms |
| 14:06.30 | sanxiyn | Hail jot. |
| 14:06.31 | jethro | I m on vacation for a week |
| 14:06.33 | jethro | cheers |
| 14:06.37 | abrotman | oh .. that's just dumb |
| 14:06.41 | Delph | abrotman: |
| 14:06.44 | kpanik | LSorensen: you see ?:) |
| 14:06.46 | abrotman | Delph: i see what it says :) |
| 14:06.47 | Essobi | Hey everyone! Let's argue about jot, and seq! |
| 14:06.50 | Delph | seq -f '%03g' 1 41 <- bbrazil knows printf foo better than me. |
| 14:06.58 | michal_ | can jot do 001 to 041 ? i couldn't get it dto do that |
| 14:07.04 | bbrazil | Delph: I spent several minutes reading the manpage |
| 14:07.13 | Delph | bbrazil: indeed, I couldn't find the printf manpage =:/ |
| 14:07.15 | McKillroy | LSorensen: ...in interrupt handler - not syncing |
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| 14:07.23 | jethro | michal_: you couldn't get a egg to cook |
| 14:07.25 | Delph | maybe i need to install some C core functions manpage or something. |
| 14:07.27 | sanxiyn | michal_: jot -w %03d 41 1 |
| 14:07.29 | bbrazil | Delph: yeah, it keeps coming up with printf(1). man 3 printf |
| 14:07.30 | abrotman | Delph: i thought you could do -w and -f .. oh well |
| 14:07.39 | michal_ | jethro, you keep bitching that you can do it but you havn't yet |
| 14:07.40 | Delph | bbrazil: I don't have printf(3) |
| 14:07.46 | LSorensen | McKillroy: let me see what that decodes to |
| 14:07.54 | sanxiyn | michal_: printf does many things... |
| 14:07.54 | Delph | bbrazil: i knew that was waht I was looking for. |
| 14:07.55 | McKillroy | LSorensen: Badness in smp_call_function ... |
| 14:07.56 | abrotman | michal_: you know .. i've seen the answer three times now |
| 14:07.57 | zulkifar | hi. Is there a client-site tool for asking identity of a connecting clients? Just like IRC server does |
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| 14:08.04 | Delph | michal_: please pay attention, already =:) |
| 14:08.04 | bbrazil | Delph: manpages-dev |
| 14:08.08 | petemc | zulkifar: ident |
| 14:08.08 | michal_ | abrotman: only the last answer works properly |
| 14:08.18 | abrotman | michal_: but it was provided more than once |
| 14:08.25 | Delph | bbrazil: thanks! |
| 14:08.28 | McKillroy | LSorensen: at ...../arch/i386/kernel/smp.c:522 |
| 14:08.36 | abrotman | !beer me |
| 14:08.37 | zulkifar | petemc: ? |
| 14:08.41 | Delph | michal_: and I told you where to look a good 10mins ago =:) |
| 14:08.42 | xk | ;) |
| 14:08.44 | abrotman | tarzeau: i wrote it :) |
| 14:08.45 | kpanik | !alsa |
| 14:08.45 | dpkg | hmm... alsa is On Sarge, when using a debian 2.6 kernel, to use ALSA, ensure you have discover1 1.7.2 or higher, then apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils. You may need to run alsaconf too. No more faffing about with OSS modules. Remember to tell your applications and libraries to use alsa, to get any benefit. |
| 14:08.47 | Delph | but you were more interested in arguing than solving =:) |
| 14:08.50 | kpanik | !dmix |
| 14:08.50 | dpkg | it has been said that dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf |
| 14:08.52 | abrotman | tarzeau: it may need some editing though |
| 14:08.53 | zulkifar | petemc: from man: ident - identify RCS keyword strings in files |
| 14:08.57 | zulkifar | petemc: :) |
| 14:09.03 | michal_ | Delph, and i've been trying to decipher the print manpage for the last 10 mins.. no examples |
| 14:09.06 | McKillroy | LSorensen: then a bunch of symbols |
| 14:09.08 | antony | i want to stop a module loading at boot by adding install (modname) /bin/true to /etc/modprobe.conf, but i see that modprobe.conf is deprecated. is the correct method to create a file under /etc/modprobe.d? |
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| 14:09.23 | tarzeau | abrotman: can i check? i've put it on freshmeat yesterday |
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| 14:09.32 | abrotman | tarzeau: /msg ? |
| 14:09.40 | petemc | zulkifar: yeah, thats not what i meant really |
| 14:09.41 | tarzeau | perfect |
| 14:09.44 | hellop | antony: I'd like to do the same. |
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| 14:09.45 | michal_ | that jot version doesn't even seem to be documented :/ |
| 14:09.50 | xk | antony: it would be done manually in /etc/modules, or automatically: you can blacklist it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist |
| 14:09.51 | stew | abrotman: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 14:09.52 | kpanik | if a sound card is FUll duplex, do you need tu use dmix?? |
| 14:09.54 | stew | antony: ^^^ |
| 14:10.12 | abrotman | stew: at least iknow it's there now :) |
| 14:10.13 | stew | yeahyeahyeah |
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| 14:10.21 | antony | xk: blacklist doesn't work - i've tried it. this is a fb module and hotplug doesn't load it |
| 14:10.32 | xk | kpanik: if it's full duplex, it shou;d have 2 DSPs... and mixing can be done in hardware (although depends on the number of DSPs you have) |
| 14:10.37 | petemc | zulkifar: if you have an identd installed, read the manual for it, eg: man oidentd |
| 14:10.38 | antony | stew: ^^^ |
| 14:10.42 | antony | :) doh |
| 14:10.43 | xk | antony: if it doesn't load it... then what loads it? |
| 14:10.46 | michal_ | ahh there it is.. printf again. if only that were better documented :/ |
| 14:10.47 | zulkifar | petemc: ok |
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| 14:10.49 | antony | don't know |
| 14:10.49 | xk | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.54 | antony | not there |
| 14:10.58 | hellop | omg with 2.4 kernel I had like 15 modules loaded, now 30! |
| 14:11.02 | xk | is fb listed in "lsmod"? |
| 14:11.11 | stew | antony: /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh ? |
| 14:11.13 | Delph | michal_: as bbrazil just mentioned, apt-get install manpages-dev |
| 14:11.16 | xk | hellop: I have like 55 modules loaded ;) |
| 14:11.24 | GeK | La_Carotte2 weche ici c des pute xdr |
| 14:11.25 | kpanik | xk: how can i see how much DSP i have? |
| 14:11.29 | sanxiyn | 66 here. |
| 14:11.30 | GeK | bande de tafiole |
| 14:11.31 | mh_le | how do I get gnome to use alsa? |
| 14:11.31 | antony | when i restart hotplug, it points out that it's ignoring the pci display device etc |
| 14:11.35 | kpanik | GeK: toua meme |
| 14:11.39 | GeK | MDRRRRRRRR |
| 14:11.42 | kpanik | :) |
| 14:11.45 | michal_ | Delph, i have the printf manpage. it just sucks.. might not be the same one as in debian though.. sec |
| 14:11.45 | directhex|work | !wayttd antony |
| 14:11.46 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, antony? |
| 14:11.47 | sanxiyn | 78 modules on another machine. |
| 14:11.48 | sanxiyn | Heh. |
| 14:11.52 | LSorensen | antony: that's good. normally you want it to. |
| 14:11.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: did you even get that? |
| 14:12.04 | GeK | kpanik pk tu vien ici si t francé ? |
| 14:12.08 | antony | stop these fb modules loading on boot as they print gibberish on this box |
| 14:12.11 | xk | kpanik: cat /proc/asound/pcm |
| 14:12.12 | michal_ | well still no examples |
| 14:12.15 | abrotman | GeK: did you already get kicked once? |
| 14:12.18 | kpanik | GeK: jten pose des questions ? :) |
| 14:12.24 | abrotman | !fr |
| 14:12.24 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 14:12.26 | kpanik | xk:thx |
| 14:12.36 | GeK | i want speack english |
| 14:12.39 | GeK | i learn |
| 14:12.40 | directhex|work | antony, paste your /etc/lilo.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst to #flood |
| 14:12.40 | abrotman | #english |
| 14:12.41 | antony | fb on i386 is pointless anyway ;) |
| 14:12.48 | LSorensen | kpanik: to play multiple things at once, either use one of the crappy sound deamons (like esd) if allt he program support that, or setup a software mixer in the alsa driver (see daq on asound.rc on www.alsa-project.org) or best solution is get an emu10k based card which allows 32 users at a time to open it |
| 14:12.58 | stew | antony: do you have a vga= line in your bootloader? |
| 14:12.59 | antony | directhex|work: there's nothing fancy on the boot line |
| 14:13.02 | antony | stew: nope |
| 14:13.06 | kpanik | ]< abrotman> #english |
| 14:13.08 | kpanik | lol |
| 14:13.14 | abrotman | uhm |
| 14:13.16 | stew | antony: is it console-screen.sh maybe? |
| 14:13.30 | antony | stew: i'll have a look now |
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| 14:13.44 | antony | in any case, was my assumption about creating a file in modprobe.d correct? |
| 14:14.00 | antony | i know it's not elegant, but frankly as long as it works i couldn't care a hoot |
| 14:14.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: no i'm here, just read it |
| 14:14.25 | abrotman | ok |
| 14:14.28 | kpanik | xk: what is the output of your cat /proc/asound/pcm ? |
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| 14:14.45 | GeK | lol = laughting out loud |
| 14:14.55 | xk | kpanik: why are you asking me? |
| 14:15.07 | xk | kpanik: I have two lines with playback... that means I have 2 DSPs. |
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| 14:15.36 | kpanik | xk: i have 3 lines, does that mean i have 3 dsp ? |
| 14:15.44 | xk | kpanik: I'd say so. |
| 14:15.45 | antony | stew: that file doesn't appear to load any modules - indeed it looks in /proc to see if there is an fb |
| 14:15.50 | xk | paste to me in /msg so I can confirm |
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| 14:15.56 | kpanik | ok |
| 14:16.15 | hellop | I think it just installed every module. theres no floppy or gameport.. what gives? |
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| 14:16.48 | xk | kpanik: yeah, 3 DSPs. |
| 14:17.05 | mh_le | xk: can you help me with my sound cards? |
| 14:17.10 | xk | 2 full DSPs, 1 partial (playback only) |
| 14:17.13 | kpanik | xk: wahoo, i discovered something today :) thx |
| 14:17.21 | AndyG | Hi, im afraid i dont understand the shells $(( )) feature not right. why does test=20; echo $(( $test + 5 )) give me 25 and test=020; echo $(( $test + 5 )) results in 21... ? |
| 14:17.28 | antony | can confirm that it works. now perhaps i can get a console. |
| 14:18.12 | xk | mh_le: state problem and I'll see. |
| 14:18.15 | kpanik | xk: for multiple audio sources, do i need to compile the alsa drivers? |
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| 14:18.29 | xk | kpanik: well... you're using alsa right now? |
| 14:18.42 | tuxipuxi_ | hi, could someone point me to an apt repository which has x.org? I don't find any |
| 14:18.45 | xk | the apps you want to use with multiple sources... you need alsa driver support |
| 14:18.51 | xk | and a way to specify the device |
| 14:18.56 | kpanik | xk: yep i think so but only one programs can play at the same time |
| 14:19.07 | xk | what for example? |
| 14:19.10 | Justin | AndyG: man bash, read the "ARITHMETIC EVALUATION" section |
| 14:19.12 | directhex|work | kpanik, no. you need to configure dmix, and use alsa-0.9-compatible applications which don't use mmap |
| 14:19.19 | mh_le | xk: I*m trying to install 2 soundcards, and I can't get the integrated one to play and sound |
| 14:19.29 | kpanik | xk: xmms and mplayer |
| 14:19.31 | mh_le | and = any |
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| 14:19.43 | xk | kpanik: and did you set the device for any other them? |
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| 14:19.48 | xk | s/other/of/ |
| 14:20.07 | kpanik | directhex|work: dmix is software, i seem to have the hardware for it |
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| 14:20.29 | mh_le | xk, I'm trying to get gnome to use alsa aswell |
| 14:20.38 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - is anybody having problems with tvtime in debian? it worked fine in gentoo and kubuntu but now i cant switch inputs |
| 14:20.40 | xk | I don't use gnome. |
| 14:20.43 | streuner | hellop: Did you install an 2.6.x kernel yet? |
| 14:20.49 | kpanik | xk: no i didnt configure that, how can u do it? |
| 14:20.50 | directhex|work | kpanik, what sound card do you have? |
| 14:20.59 | kpanik | directhex|work: i have cmipci |
| 14:21.05 | mh_le | xk: okay, can you help me with the other problem then? |
| 14:21.16 | kpanik | directhex|work: i mean cmedia CMI8738 |
| 14:21.22 | xk | kpanic: well... xmms options... and select the device output ;) |
| 14:21.33 | streuner | Super_Cat_Frog: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
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| 14:21.49 | kpanik | xk: lol it's already set with alsa :) and mplayer as well |
| 14:21.50 | hellop | streuner: it worked |
| 14:21.54 | directhex|work | kpanik, you don't have hardware sound mixing support. |
| 14:21.57 | xk | yeah, and set it to a different one |
| 14:22.02 | streuner | hellop: what does work? |
| 14:22.13 | xk | fucking hell. |
| 14:22.19 | hellop | the nic works with 2.6 kernel |
| 14:22.25 | Super_Cat_Frog | streuner - http://rafb.net/paste/results/62BvYE95.html |
| 14:22.29 | xk | directhex|work: prove me wrong. |
| 14:22.33 | streuner | hellp: 20 bucks to debian |
| 14:22.35 | directhex|work | kpanik, http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-C-Media#matrix <-- only cards with (3) in the notes section can do hardware mixing. |
| 14:22.40 | xk | directhex|work: if he has 3 DSPs that can do playback, he does have hardware mixing. |
| 14:22.43 | streuner | hellop: 20 bucks to debian |
| 14:22.51 | hellop | streuner: ok |
| 14:22.54 | kpanik | directhex|work: man thx a lot |
| 14:22.55 | streuner | hellop: sent the money to debian project |
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| 14:23.00 | hellop | streuner: gladly |
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| 14:23.10 | streuner | hellop: thanks |
| 14:23.16 | directhex|work | kpanik, start reading http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD04MjQmdXJsX3BhZ2U9NA== from halfway down (under the first screenshot) |
| 14:23.22 | hellop | streuner: I was about to buy some distro, to get some help on this. |
| 14:23.29 | mysurfguide | Hey guys i got a question |
| 14:23.45 | Super_Cat_Frog | streuner - why? (dpkg -l libc6) |
| 14:23.48 | mysurfguide | Is there any command that has the same function as -nodeps to use in apt? |
| 14:23.55 | directhex|work | kpanik, install the alsa-compatible libsdl, and use mplayer with -ao sdl:alsa, NOT -ao alsa |
| 14:24.07 | directhex|work | kpanik, after you have an asound.conf (or ~/.asoundrc) |
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| 14:24.16 | mysurfguide | for rpm the nodeps work, but which is functional for debia? anybody? |
| 14:24.18 | xk | mysurfguide: and -nodeps is redhat? |
| 14:24.29 | xk | I love rpm parameters... they make zero sense. |
| 14:24.34 | mysurfguide | yes i believe so xk |
| 14:24.36 | xk | and it's a huge mess. |
| 14:24.40 | mysurfguide | --no-deps* |
| 14:24.49 | mysurfguide | and gentoo is --nodeps i believe |
| 14:24.52 | streuner | Super_Cat_Frog: why not? |
| 14:24.53 | kpanik | directhex|work: ok thx a lot, i'm working on it :) ! |
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| 14:24.57 | xk | dpkg -i --force-depends package.deb |
| 14:25.03 | xk | lol |
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| 14:25.11 | Lorvija | are there any other good imagemanipulation/photoprocessing programs than gimp? |
| 14:25.13 | mysurfguide | thanks man i appreciate it:) |
| 14:25.15 | streuner | haha |
| 14:25.22 | petemc | Lorvija: imagemagick |
| 14:25.27 | Super_Cat_Frog | streuner - you asked me what the output was, why do you want to know? (output here http://rafb.net/paste/results/62BvYE95.html ) |
| 14:25.29 | directhex|work | mysurfguide, why would you ignore dependancies, thereby removing the point of the superior dpkg system? |
| 14:25.39 | Lorvija | petemc you know any more? |
| 14:25.52 | petemc | Lorvija: just a few windows ones |
| 14:25.52 | Gathond | directhex|work: probably to feel leet |
| 14:25.57 | xk | directhex|work: wants redhat's package management stability ;) |
| 14:25.58 | Lorvija | okay, yhanks petemc |
| 14:26.02 | simonrvn | apt-cache search image manipulation |
| 14:26.13 | mh_le | does anyone know a good howto on setting up alsa on sarge? |
| 14:26.17 | Lorvija | simonrvn thanks (: |
| 14:26.19 | sanxiyn | directhex|work: To avoid broken dependencies. |
| 14:26.21 | hellop | streuner: so it seems you dont donate to debian, but SPI instead, correct? |
| 14:26.34 | streuner | hellop: that's fine too |
| 14:26.38 | sanxiyn | (I know, one should file a bug, but it can be an interim solution.) |
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| 14:26.41 | kpanik | directhex|work: just to know, would it be better for me to compile the cmipci driver from alsa-source or it changes nothing? |
| 14:26.42 | sanxiyn | Though I prefer to use equivs. |
| 14:26.44 | tuxipuxi_ | hi, could someone point me to an apt repository which has x.org? I don't find any |
| 14:26.53 | directhex|work | kpanik, changes nothing. |
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| 14:26.59 | streuner | Super_Cat_Frog: BTS |
| 14:27.03 | kpanik | directhex|work: ok thank you :) |
| 14:27.15 | directhex|work | kpanik, the _easiest_ solution is to part with some money, and get a creative labs card |
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| 14:27.39 | directhex|work | kpanik, easiest not cheapest, mind. dmix is perfectly usable, i used it for about a year with onboard realtek audio |
| 14:27.49 | kpanik | directhex|work: lol i take a memo of it :) |
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| 14:27.51 | wombachi | where can I look to disable loading some modules? ipv6 was hidden in modprobe.d/aliases. Now I'm looking for snd-* modules. |
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| 14:28.06 | directhex|work | !blacklist |
| 14:28.06 | dpkg | Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present) |
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| 14:28.42 | wombachi | directhex|work thanks |
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| 14:30.07 | antony | my machine boots with proper console now. according to http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&threadm=epL3.2vh.11%40gated-at.bofh.it&rnum=8&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dmatroxfb_base%2520millenium%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg, one needs to run con2fb(dev) after boot. hence this doesn't work out of the box. is this a bug? |
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| 14:30.24 | antony | oops sorry about url size |
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| 14:30.53 | wombachi | directhex|work hotplug is not installed, and I have no discover.conf. But I already put 'skip='ipv5 snd_cmipic...' in discover-modprobe.conf. what am I doing wrong? |
| 14:30.54 | streuner | antony: what's the fucking problem? :-) |
| 14:31.00 | antony | fwiw running con2fbmap only gave ioctl FBIOPUT_CON2FBMAP: Inappropriate ioctl for device |
| 14:31.15 | antony | streuner: see a few minutes ago. |
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| 14:31.32 | antony | basically matrox fb modules loading on boot corrupt my console |
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| 14:32.17 | DaFresh | hi all, my box run under testing, how can i install packages from sid ? |
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| 14:32.38 | abrotman | DaFresh: why do you want to |
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| 14:32.46 | Lorvija | Does imagemagick contain X interface? or is it just command line tool? |
| 14:32.52 | pen123 | while :; do echo hello; sleep 4; done | cat Works and this doesnt while :; do echo hello; sleep 4; done | awk '/./' |
| 14:32.58 | greycat | !depends imagemagick sarge |
| 14:33.06 | pen123 | Should I make a bug report?? |
| 14:33.07 | amorphix | hi greycat |
| 14:33.10 | dpkg | imagemagick: depends on libmagick6 (= 6:6.0.6.2-2.2) |
| 14:33.17 | greycat | !depends libmagick6 sarge |
| 14:33.21 | dpkg | libmagick6: pre-depends on dpkg (>= 1.6.8) |
| 14:33.24 | greycat | no X. |
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| 14:33.47 | streuner | greycat: you are fast |
| 14:33.52 | Lorvija | hmm okay, gotta find interface for it(or what ever is the correct term) (: |
| 14:33.53 | amorphix | hi streuner |
| 14:33.54 | DaFresh | abrotman: for evolution 2.2.2 |
| 14:34.01 | streuner | amorphix: hi |
| 14:34.05 | greycat | pen123: probably a buffering issue. how long did you let it run? |
| 14:34.11 | DaFresh | abrotman: i need exchange compatibility |
| 14:34.13 | amorphix | nice day today |
| 14:34.24 | abrotman | DaFresh: you'll have to upgrade more than just evolution probably .. and 2.0 has exchange compatibility iirc |
| 14:34.24 | pen123 | Does it work for you? |
| 14:34.24 | amorphix | and all u lot are stuck behind computer screens |
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| 14:34.37 | abrotman | amorphix: it's crappy here |
| 14:34.40 | hellop | Gift Type |
| 14:34.42 | hellop | Recurring |
| 14:34.44 | hellop | Organization |
| 14:34.44 | amorphix | abrotman where you at? |
| 14:34.46 | hellop | Designation |
| 14:34.47 | hellop | Dedication |
| 14:34.49 | hellop | Amount |
| 14:34.49 | abrotman | amorphix: philadelphia |
| 14:34.50 | hellop | One-time |
| 14:34.50 | greycat | pen123: it "works" on HP-UX 10.20. It sits there and apparently does nothing for a long time on Sarge. I assume it's a buffering issue. |
| 14:34.52 | hellop | Software In The Public Interest Inc |
| 14:34.54 | hellop | debian |
| 14:34.56 | hellop | streuner for helping my with NIC so I can do Homework |
| 14:34.57 | hellop | $20.00 |
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| 14:34.59 | hellop | whoops |
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| 14:35.05 | abrotman | amorphix: http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USPA1858.html |
| 14:35.05 | amorphix | west coast USA, should be nice there eh |
| 14:35.10 | greycat | hellop: done? |
| 14:35.11 | Unfrgiven | is it possible in apache to have a multiple servernames for a single virtualhost or do i need to define each servername as a separate virtualhost? |
| 14:35.14 | streuner | hellop: stop that |
| 14:35.16 | abrotman | amorphix: i'm east coast |
| 14:35.20 | amorphix | oh sorry |
| 14:35.28 | hellop | sorry |
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| 14:35.31 | pen123 | Should I make bug report? |
| 14:35.37 | wombachi | Unfrgiven use ServerAlias |
| 14:35.38 | amorphix | its so sunny here and across western Europe |
| 14:35.38 | abrotman | it's ok .. you must not be from the states |
| 14:35.46 | streuner | greycat: hellop want spent 20 buck to debian and he use SPI instead... |
| 14:35.48 | amorphix | abrotman: uk |
| 14:35.51 | greycat | pen123: you should stop assuming that commands which write to pipes are unbuffered |
| 14:35.52 | Unfrgiven | wombachi: thanks :) |
| 14:36.09 | hellop | streuner: I put to use to for the debian project. |
| 14:36.14 | DaFresh | abrotman: currently testing have the 2.0.4 release, but no exchange support ... |
| 14:36.34 | pen123 | HOw to force flush there? |
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| 14:36.41 | abrotman | DaFresh: i thought all 2.x had exchange support .. but you can mix .. but don't complain if it barfs |
| 14:36.45 | streuner | hellop: SPI is the place where you can donate money to debian |
| 14:36.59 | abrotman | !tell DaFresh about quick sid/sarge mix |
| 14:37.18 | hellop | streuner: Isn't that what I did? |
| 14:37.30 | streuner | hellop: sure, that's fine. |
| 14:37.41 | hellop | Network for Good. |
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| 14:37.46 | DaFresh | abrotman: thx a lot, but there is no exchange support in 2.0.4 ;) |
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| 14:37.58 | abrotman | DaFresh: i'll have to believe you .. i've not tried it |
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| 14:38.55 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - ive checked BTS and there are no known bugs, prehaps its a config problem. im using tvtime from apt but i cant change input from default (im not sure if video0 is my tvcard of my dvbcard (dvbcard only has one input) can somebody help me with this. i need my ps2 :( |
| 14:38.56 | greycat | pen123: http://shelldorado.dyndns.org/wiki/?BashFaq#faq9 |
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| 14:39.32 | Starf^Work | yay completed |
| 14:39.51 | hellop | Thank you. Your tax-deductible contribution is complete. Thanks again. You really helped me! I can do my homework now at the beach! |
| 14:39.53 | Starf^Work | sep, so i just drop the system down and remove the source hd and it will boot? |
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| 14:40.19 | streuner | hellop: you're welcome, have fun. |
| 14:40.20 | NvrMind | suweet, xchat is badass |
| 14:40.26 | Starf^Work | sep, 2618 seconds it took, 4,970,265 bytes a sec |
| 14:40.51 | DaFresh | abrotman: ;), thx |
| 14:40.56 | abrotman | np |
| 14:41.09 | abrotman | that's the first time i've ever heard that |
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| 14:41.35 | jnk | Is is possible to combine two interfaces (e.g. ethernet and wireless) to increase the bandwidth ? For example, to have wget download a file using eth0 and wlan0 at the same time... |
| 14:41.47 | Unfrgiven | wombachi: it doesnt do what i what. i have multiple domains registered... lets say dom1.com and dom2.com. now i want to make it such that i have a single virtualhost config for forum.dom1.com and forum.dom2.com. is this possible? |
| 14:42.17 | Starf^Work | sep, help |
| 14:42.29 | Gathond | Unfrgiven: you mean make them share virtualhosts? ServerAlias probably does the trick |
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| 14:42.42 | Starf^Work | Gathond, or you |
| 14:42.50 | Unfrgiven | Gathond: yeah. how do i do this? |
| 14:42.51 | abrotman | jnk: either would be faster than your outside connect more than likely |
| 14:42.58 | Starf^Work | /sbin/init: 426: cannot open dev/console: No such file |
| 14:43.04 | abrotman | unless you have OC12 or whateer at home |
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| 14:43.09 | Starf^Work | Kernel planic,: Attempted to kill init |
| 14:43.20 | Starf^Work | damn keyboard |
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| 14:43.27 | polm | Why do I have to create a "/dev/cdrom" that links to my /dev/hdd all everytime I reboot ? How can I have this device created automatically ? |
| 14:43.28 | Gathond | Unfrgiven: you edit the Virtualhost section for that virtualhost in the configuration |
| 14:43.34 | hellop | jnk: there are some windows gateway programs for that, sysgate I think. lemme know if U figure it out in Linux. |
| 14:43.43 | abrotman | yes .. linux can do it |
| 14:43.52 | lestest | hi there how can I know which process is swapping ? |
| 14:43.56 | abrotman | but i'm still not sure it's worth the effort |
| 14:43.56 | Starf^Work | abrotman, very generalised response |
| 14:43.57 | Starf^Work | lol |
| 14:43.58 | EdibleText | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.05 | greycat | lestest: top can sort by 'M'emory use |
| 14:44.07 | abrotman | Starf^Work: for what? |
| 14:44.12 | Starf^Work | EdibleText, i am not the problem EdibleText |
| 14:44.19 | hellop | jnk no sygate |
| 14:44.20 | NvrMind | How can I enable a root only device, or how can I login in as root into kde? |
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| 14:44.27 | eka | hi all |
| 14:44.30 | streuner | hellop: you can always use your debian box as a router, just install ipmasq |
| 14:44.32 | Unfrgiven | Gathond: but say i have dom1.com, dom2.com, dom3.com. now i want to setup a forum.dom1.com. i want to use the same config for forum.dom2.com and forum.dom3.com. how would i set this up? ServerAlias forum.*? |
| 14:44.35 | asg | NvrMind: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 14:44.36 | jnk | abrotman, well I have an adsl connection (eth0 here) and my neighbor has a wireless adsl access too :) |
| 14:44.38 | abrotman | jnk: how fast is your internet connection ? |
| 14:44.45 | abrotman | jnk: that's stealing |
| 14:44.47 | eka | i', getting errors doing a dist-upgrade |
| 14:44.50 | jnk | not if he's ok |
| 14:44.51 | Starf^Work | Unfrgiven, apache? |
| 14:44.51 | NvrMind | thx |
| 14:44.59 | abrotman | jnk: and did you ask permission? |
| 14:45.02 | asg | NvrMind: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 14:45.03 | eka | Su Divina Gracia A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, apareció en este mundo en 1896 en Calcuta, India. Después de completar su educación universitaria conoció a su maestro espiritual, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami, en Calcuta, en 1922. |
| 14:45.03 | eka | Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, un prominente erudito religioso, fundador de 64 Gaudiya Mathas (instituciones Védicas), gustó de este educado joven y le convenció a dedicar su vida a enseñar el conocimiento Védico. Srila Prabhupada se convirtió en su estudiante y diez años más tarde (1932), en Allahabad, llegó a ser su discípulo formalmente iniciado. |
| 14:45.03 | eka | En su primer encuentro, en 1922, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura le pidió a Srila Prabhupada que divulgara el conocimiento Védico en lenguaje inglés. En los años siguientes, Srila Prabhupada escribió un comentario de El Bhagavad-gita, ayudó al Gaudiya Matha en su labor, y en 1944 comenzó a escribir y publicar una revista quincenal en inglés llamada "De vuelta al Supremo". Esta revista está siendo ahora continuada por los discíp |
| 14:45.04 | abrotman | and are you using debian? |
| 14:45.07 | eka | ulos de Srila Prabhupada en Occidente y es publicada en 19 idiomas. |
| 14:45.09 | abrotman | wtf was that |
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| 14:45.13 | Sm4sh | which is the best music-player for gnome?Quod libet or Rhythmbox? |
| 14:45.13 | Unfrgiven | Starf^Work: yep. Apache 1.x |
| 14:45.16 | Crasp | hehe :) |
| 14:45.17 | Starf^Work | Unfrgiven, ok /join #apache |
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| 14:45.28 | Gathond | Unfrgiven: probably, the exact supported options would be contained in the apache documentation |
| 14:45.28 | jnk | abrotman, I use debian, and didn't ask permission for something I'm not doing anyway |
| 14:45.30 | eka | Después de publicar tres volúmenes del Bhagavatam, Srila Prabhupada viajó a los Estados Unidos en 1965, para cumplir con la misión de su maestro espiritual. Posteriormente, Su Divina Grac |
| 14:45.34 | streuner | !ops eka |
| 14:45.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: eka |
| 14:45.42 | eka | sorry |
| 14:45.44 | abrotman | jnk: yes it's possible |
| 14:45.45 | jnk | abrotman, (although I'm on ubuntu right now) |
| 14:45.52 | eka | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-21_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 14:45.52 | eka | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.57 | Coolerdo | who can I disable DMA on boot? is there a way? |
| 14:45.58 | streuner | eka: don't flood |
| 14:45.59 | abrotman | so he pastes again |
| 14:46.04 | streuner | eka: stop that |
| 14:46.10 | eka | ok |
| 14:46.13 | lestest | greycat: thankz |
| 14:46.14 | streuner | eka: #debian-es |
| 14:46.20 | eka | ok |
| 14:46.30 | pen123 | Thank greycat |
| 14:46.37 | hellop | I can see 5 open wireless points here. that would be cool if I could use them all at once to get a CD or something. |
| 14:46.49 | greycat | eka: find the *first* error |
| 14:46.50 | pen123 | s/Thank/thanks |
| 14:46.55 | Gathond | Starf^Work: what excatly did you do before you got that error? |
| 14:46.58 | supaman | Coolerdo: there is a way ... search google for no-dma lilo.conf (if your using lilo that is) |
| 14:47.06 | Starf^Work | Gathond, lo, dd completed successfully, i removed hda (source hd) and attempted to boot off hdb (dest hd) and i am getting a error of the following after the line Partition check |
| 14:47.08 | polm | Why is the /dev/cdrom symlink not created automatically in my Debian ? Everytime I reboot I have to re-create the symlink from /dev/cdrom to /dev/hdX . Why ? |
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| 14:47.23 | stew | polm: becuase you are using udev |
| 14:47.34 | eka | greycat: thats the first error |
| 14:47.34 | Starf^Work | pivot_root: no such file or directory /// then the rest of the error |
| 14:47.39 | abrotman | jnk: yes .. it is possible .. iirc .. it's called channel bonding |
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| 14:47.53 | stew | eka: are you using apt-get to dist-upgrade from woody to sarge? |
| 14:47.59 | eka | nope |
| 14:48.00 | sussudio | abrotman: it's also called 'stealing' |
| 14:48.04 | eka | i have sarge |
| 14:48.04 | greycat | eka: did the disk fill up or something? how do you get an error on *unpack*? |
| 14:48.08 | polm | stew: so running udev means I cannot have the symlink created permanently, or at least automatically upon reboot ? |
| 14:48.13 | eka | let me check |
| 14:48.18 | Starf^Work | the destination drive still called hdb even if the original hda is not in system |
| 14:48.18 | abrotman | sussudio: perhaps .. he "said" he would get permission first |
| 14:48.23 | jnk | abrotman, thanks |
| 14:48.23 | eka | nope only 10% used |
| 14:48.24 | asg | stew: fyi, libc6 upgraded in sarge this morning from -20 to -21 |
| 14:48.25 | Gathond | Starf^Work: sounds like some of the hardware nodes in /dev was not included in the dd'ing ... wonder why though, perhaps you use some devfs /udev thing that failed ... or perhaps your bootloader is configured wrongly now |
| 14:48.33 | abrotman | jnk: now .. when you get arrested .. don't blame me |
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| 14:48.38 | stew | asg: ahhh, ok, remind me not to upgrade just yet then :) |
| 14:48.41 | jnk | lol |
| 14:48.47 | asg | stew: it worked fine for me *shrug* |
| 14:48.49 | abrotman | it's not funny .. it really is stealing |
| 14:48.54 | Starf^Work | Gathond, it was a standard unstable install of debian... |
| 14:48.58 | Starf^Work | single partition |
| 14:49.00 | stew | polm: permanantly no. automatically, maybe, i dunno though cuz i don't use udev |
| 14:49.01 | abrotman | you're violating laws .. and his service contract |
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| 14:49.13 | xophEr | I installed a module, but when I reboot Its gone and I get: "FATAL: Module not found", what should I do? |
| 14:49.20 | david | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:49.25 | asg | xophEr: add it to /etc/modules or use modconf |
| 14:49.29 | jnk | abrotman, actually it seems he's using a d-link router running linux, to which I can telnet as root with password "admin" (default password) |
| 14:49.30 | greycat | xophEr: you didn't install it right. |
| 14:49.35 | Starf^Work | its got all the way through to the partition check , the fact that the only hd in there is hdb and not hda like the original was wouldnt cause a problem would it? |
| 14:49.44 | hellop | abrotman, he's transmitting into the air, free for the taking |
| 14:50.05 | jnk | abrotman, the fact that he can still access his own router is proof of my honesty |
| 14:50.18 | david | anyone know a good driver for a canon printer MP360 ? |
| 14:50.29 | abrotman | jnk: that's bullshit and you know it |
| 14:50.35 | Gathond | david if one exists linuxprinting.org |
| 14:50.36 | streuner | david: linuxprinting.org? |
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| 14:50.46 | abrotman | jnk: stealing is when you take something you didn't pay for |
| 14:50.51 | abrotman | and you're stealing |
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| 14:51.00 | Starf^Work | Gathond, you still therE? |
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| 14:51.03 | Gathond | yes |
| 14:51.09 | david | yes I know but it's not free ? |
| 14:51.13 | hellop | sussdio, I am not an ass. just conversatin |
| 14:51.20 | abrotman | conversing |
| 14:51.31 | abrotman | or conversation |
| 14:51.33 | jnk | abrotman, sorry I didn' express myself clearly: I don't use his connection. I don't crack his router. I just looked by curiosity. |
| 14:51.35 | abrotman | bah .. |
| 14:51.53 | abrotman | jnk: well .. i have no idea where you live .. but in my country .. you'd be arrested |
| 14:51.53 | stew | all the sudden we are all experts in swiss law |
| 14:51.56 | Starf^Work | Gathond, you know what the errors mean? |
| 14:52.00 | abrotman | let's ask tarzeau |
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| 14:52.48 | Gathond | Starf^Work: it means that the kernel attempts to open a console, but that device is missing |
| 14:53.06 | Starf^Work | Gathond, can i relabel the drive hdb to hda# |
| 14:53.18 | Starf^Work | as the original was hda but its left the new one that i created with dd as hdb |
| 14:53.22 | Gathond | Starf^Work: move it |
| 14:53.27 | Starf^Work | how? |
| 14:53.38 | Starf^Work | n00b alert |
| 14:53.40 | Starf^Work | ;) |
| 14:53.54 | jnk | abrotman, because of the telnet? Yeah I guess it was illegal. It probably won't prevent my from sleeping though |
| 14:54.03 | greycat | Starf^Work: hda means it's physically wired in a specific way. |
| 14:54.08 | abrotman | jnk: it will if your cellmate thinks you're cute |
| 14:54.11 | mh_le | can some one help me install two sound cards? They are detected by alsa conf, but I can only get sound to play though one of them, the SBLive, and not the integrated SiS. Also how can I get gnome to use alsa instead of OSS? |
| 14:54.12 | greycat | Starf^Work: it's not like "sda" which just means "the first SCSI disk" |
| 14:54.13 | Gathond | Starf^Work: hda is primary IDA channel master drive and hdb is primary channel slave drive |
| 14:54.21 | Starf^Work | ok |
| 14:54.22 | Starf^Work | one sec |
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| 14:54.56 | jnk | abrotman, man where do you live? If you're being sent to jail for a quick peeping in someone else's property, you'd better leave |
| 14:55.21 | hellop | abrotman just because something is illegal doesn't mean that it should be. If you were just spraying water into the street 24/7 and I happened to "steal" some of your water... yeah I'll call civil disobedience on that one |
| 14:55.32 | Starf^Work | woot i believe the phraseis |
| 14:55.39 | Starf^Work | hehe |
| 14:55.41 | greycat | jnk: where have you been? you can be arrested for peeking in your *own* property in the US. |
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| 14:55.49 | dramen | hello |
| 14:56.01 | greycat | jnk: or at least, for publishing programs that let people peek in their own property. Ask Dmitry Sklyarov. |
| 14:56.22 | jnk | greycat, huuu I guess humans can get used to anything... |
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| 14:56.50 | stew | uhh skylarov wasn't enabling people to look at their own property |
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| 14:57.02 | greycat | stew: how would you describe it? |
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| 14:57.20 | stew | greycat: i'm not saying that its not fucked up, but wasn't the content licensed, not bought? |
| 14:57.23 | streuner | jnk: Don't cut hairs dude, if you going to hack someone's PC you make something totally wrong. |
| 14:57.43 | greycat | stew: that's yet another fundamental evil. |
| 14:57.48 | stew | yes |
| 14:57.55 | Lorvija | how to check how big my partitions are and how much space is free? |
| 14:58.04 | stew | Lorvija: df |
| 14:58.04 | abrotman | jnk: actually .. you basically just "hacked" his stuff .. illegal here |
| 14:58.10 | Lorvija | stew thanks |
| 14:58.24 | stew | Lorvija: you might like df -h better |
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| 14:58.31 | Lorvija | stew yea (: |
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| 14:59.04 | Bac9 | I just ran across a very anoying aparently kernel bug, when running the current debian sarge version of tspc (updated yesterday) after several hours the syslog starts to get filled with "kernel: unregister_netdevice: waiting for tun to become free. Usage count = 1" every 10 sec and any command that acceses interface state (e.g. ifconfig) just hangs, so obviously the only way to shut down the box is with a hard reset since it tries to turn off interfa |
| 14:59.05 | Bac9 | ces on shutdown and also jsut sits there spewing that line, tried this twice with same result, don't feel like hard resetting my box anymore, anyone else have this with 2.6.10? |
| 14:59.14 | greycat | abrotman: of course, the *real* crime is "being smarter than the average person" |
| 14:59.21 | jnk | abrotman, streuner, much like typing an url in firefox, getting a password prompt, leaving blank and pressing enter. Access granted -> computer hacked? |
| 14:59.41 | stew | jnk: actaully yes |
| 14:59.46 | jnk | It may be, but not a hack I'd feel much guilt for |
| 14:59.47 | abrotman | jnk: it's not your property .. nor is it expected that you will be using or granted permission |
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| 15:00.09 | bomin | anyone here use freemind? know of an irc channel where it is discussed regularly? |
| 15:00.30 | yang | Which app is good for calendar reminder? |
| 15:00.33 | NvrMind | hmmm, under info center I can see my "Lucent Microelectronics Win Modem 56k", but how can I tell if it is functional? I tried minicom, but I cant seem to get it to dial? Can some one hook me up with a link to some good info? Thx |
| 15:00.39 | tarzeau | abrotman: swiss law? |
| 15:00.40 | stew | yang: man at |
| 15:00.42 | jnk | actually, it's quite different since I knew what I was doing. You're right it was hacking his router (though not a hack in the "original" sense) |
| 15:00.57 | abrotman | tarzeau: jnk says it's ok for him to "peek" at his neighbor's router |
| 15:01.18 | yang | i mean gui |
| 15:01.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: am i his neighbor? |
| 15:01.21 | hellop | abrotman, If my PC in it's normal state, DHCP, just "hacks" your PC, then your are being negligent. Like, if I just rang the doorbell on your house and it burned down, that your fault. |
| 15:01.27 | abrotman | tarzeau: well .. i don't know |
| 15:01.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: is jnk 90-60-90? |
| 15:01.58 | abrotman | hellop: not even close ... |
| 15:02.00 | Hamzouz | is there an arabian channel here ? |
| 15:02.01 | abrotman | tarzeau: dunno |
| 15:02.06 | tarzeau | !arab |
| 15:02.06 | dpkg | arab is probably http://www.arabeyes.org |
| 15:02.11 | abrotman | uhm |
| 15:02.14 | Hamzouz | thanks |
| 15:02.16 | tarzeau | !arab is also #arabeyes |
| 15:02.17 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 15:02.23 | hellop | No one broke in. It's just a pass-though. Like entry to the beach over your land. And there aren't even any no-tresspassing signs. |
| 15:02.30 | abrotman | hellop: it's not yours to use |
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| 15:02.58 | abrotman | hellop: how would you feel if i used your wifi to get access ? |
| 15:03.02 | tarzeau | hellop: in nethack i don't pay attention to no-tresspassing signs |
| 15:03.08 | jnk | abrotman, ok I changed my mind. It was wrong, in the general sense. The fact that I wouldn't care if he did the same to me may explain why I didn't think it was a problem for me doing it |
| 15:03.11 | anto9us | what is the debian-update-3.0r5-i386-1.iso, is it an install disk or an addon? |
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| 15:03.24 | abrotman | anto9us: update for woody |
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| 15:03.34 | hellop | abrotman: well, people do use my wifi... so I guess I wouldn't care. |
| 15:03.40 | abrotman | jnk: if you were a good neighbor .. you'd tell him it's insecure |
| 15:03.50 | anto9us | abrotman: I need a different iso to install? |
| 15:04.18 | abrotman | hellop: how about if you leave your car unlocked with the keys in it .. and i take it for a spin and hit someone with it? .. am i negligent .. yes .. but you stole my car |
| 15:04.20 | jnk | abrotman, absoluetely |
| 15:04.32 | abrotman | err .. reverse that .. but you know what i mean |
| 15:04.35 | hellop | Point is, you shouldn't go to jail for using an open gate to un-posted wilderness. |
| 15:04.42 | abrotman | anto9us: desktop or server ? |
| 15:04.42 | stew | haven't we beaten this one to death yet? |
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| 15:05.04 | abrotman | hellop: so i can "borrow" your car and do what i want with it ? |
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| 15:05.28 | cahoot | mh_le: got your soundcards running? |
| 15:05.29 | EdibleText | it is annoying to activate a wireless card and be given an IP off someone elses router. Marketing makes wireless seem so easy and conveniant, people dont realize what is necessary to make wire secure. |
| 15:05.31 | hellop | abrotman: you are talking about a physical object. Not something that is being blasted into my property. |
| 15:05.32 | jnk | abrotman, I think you can borrow his wifi access |
| 15:05.35 | anto9us | abrotman: laptop, but I want to use postgresql, python 2.3 and zope |
| 15:05.48 | hellop | abrotman: that's your choice to blast onto my private property |
| 15:05.50 | abrotman | hellop: i paid for my access you did'nt .. it' stealing |
| 15:06.00 | abrotman | anto9us: i'd use sarge if i were you |
| 15:06.05 | abrotman | anto9us: you have broadband ? |
| 15:06.10 | greycat | Can't we just agree that whether something is legal or illegal depends on where you are and who's in power there at the time, and leave it? |
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| 15:06.18 | abrotman | hellop: end of discussion .. it's illegal in the states |
| 15:06.24 | anto9us | abrotman: yes, 1.5Mbs |
| 15:06.31 | abrotman | !d-i anto9us |
| 15:06.32 | dpkg | anto9us, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:06.41 | abrotman | anto9us: get the 105MB netinst ISO |
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| 15:06.54 | EdibleText | legislation does not need to make techinal sense |
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| 15:07.07 | anto9us | ok, what release number is sarge? |
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| 15:07.23 | greycat | it will be debian 3.1 |
| 15:07.23 | abrotman | anto9us: it will be 3.1 when it's released |
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| 15:07.28 | jnk | abrotman, is it really illegal to use an open access point? What do you base this on ? |
| 15:07.37 | Starf^Work | sep, Gathond and everyone else who has helped me out, THANK YOU SO MUCH :) |
| 15:07.39 | trask | just bought an ibook, any one had any luck with a debian install on it? |
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| 15:07.45 | abrotman | jnk: it's stealing .. it really is .. i didn't pay for it |
| 15:07.47 | hellop | abrotman: what about open access points at net cafe's and such, theres 3 right around here. Couldnt't you argue that leaving an open access point implies free. Like leaving anything of value free for the taking with no signs, or lock or identifying marks? |
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| 15:07.55 | jnk | abrotman, I didn't pay for debian you know |
| 15:07.55 | abrotman | hellop: you have permission to use it ... |
| 15:07.57 | Starf^Work | abrotman, dejavu, you still going on about it?? |
| 15:08.00 | abrotman | jnk: you have permission |
| 15:08.11 | abrotman | god .. stop .. it's illegal in the states .. ask your lawyer |
| 15:08.21 | Starf^Work | if someone leaves their wireless network broadcasting outside of their property lines then its fair game |
| 15:08.31 | greycat | it's also veering off topic in #debian |
| 15:08.31 | mh_le | cahoot: no.. I can only get sound out of the soundblaster though XMMS.. |
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| 15:08.50 | cahoot | mh_le: the other one? |
| 15:09.03 | anto9us | anyone have experience with debian on the Dell Inspiron 9100? |
| 15:09.03 | abrotman | jnk: hellop: how about if one of you posts an Ask Slashdot question .. that will certainly get you a definitive answer ... heh |
| 15:09.08 | abrotman | linux-laptop.net |
| 15:09.24 | mh_le | cahoot: not the other one.. it also apears that gnome has switched over to using OSS :( |
| 15:09.31 | Gavrila | hi, I configured a sub net interafce eth0:0 on my eth0 to have a local lan on both my 2 pcs connected by a hub. Since both of the eth cards can go 100Mbit how can I configure them to go 100Mbit on the "lan" and 10Mbit as usual on the internet? |
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| 15:09.45 | streuner | greycat: good call ... |
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| 15:10.06 | cahoot | mh_le: I meant - have you succeeded in getting alsa to recognise card nr 2? |
| 15:10.52 | mh_le | cahoot: ah yes, it was disabled in the bios, I enabeled it and it was found |
| 15:11.01 | vile_maxim | I have a debian router (woody) and just switched over to pppoe. When I swithc I got the promised speed boot, but the windows xp boxes on my network no acting right. Acting like a messedup mtu... i.e. some site load fine, but others take forever or timeout. |
| 15:11.11 | cahoot | mh_le: ok |
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| 15:11.19 | necrite | any one here use php5 in sarge ? |
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| 15:11.28 | hellop | Gabrila, it's not necessary. unless you have over 10MB internet connection. |
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| 15:11.36 | BleSS | I need some info: http://rafb.net/paste/results/o6o66h78.nln.html |
| 15:11.39 | vile_maxim | I played around with mtu settings on the router but nothing seems to work... anyone have and clue why this is happening |
| 15:11.49 | jnk | hellop, look at ifenslave-2.6 package |
| 15:11.55 | Gavrila | hellop: I want it to let the pc be connected 100Mbit |
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| 15:13.02 | mh_le | cahoot: getting gnome/the system to use it is another matter |
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| 15:13.37 | EdibleText | !coffee streuner |
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| 15:16.38 | EdibleText | vile_maxim, what is the mtu set at? |
| 15:16.52 | amorphix | coffee is no good for streuner |
| 15:16.55 | amorphix | try some green tea instead |
| 15:16.55 | sussudio | vile_maxim: why do you come here when you're running gentoo? |
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| 15:17.19 | EdibleText | vile_maxim, I have set the mtu as low as 1412 for pppoe |
| 15:17.26 | vile_maxim | a |
| 15:17.34 | amorphix | isnt gentoo based on debian? |
| 15:17.39 | EdibleText | vile_maxim, on the 'router/gw' or whatever |
| 15:17.46 | EdibleText | !lart amorphix |
| 15:17.47 | grigora | !seen jamesw |
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| 15:17.48 | dpkg | jamesw <gregn@c-24-2-191-188.client.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 310d 11h 46m 1s ago, saying: 'got libc6-dev installed now works!'. |
| 15:18.07 | xtapo | Are 802.11g PCMCIA cards well supported? |
| 15:18.31 | hellop | Gavrila, I dunno. if your hub is 100MB the NICs should go to 100MB AFAIK, |
| 15:18.35 | xtapo | My 802.11b Microsoft one just snapped in half. |
| 15:18.40 | grigora | !seen elx_sf_support |
| 15:18.40 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'elx_sf_support', grigora |
| 15:18.49 | EdibleText | bash: heh: command not found |
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| 15:19.45 | xtapo | Anyone? Should I stick with an 802.11b card? |
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| 15:20.18 | NvrMind | shouldnt /usr/sbin be a path? |
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| 15:20.44 | johnga1t | is there a way to have a sudoer be able to "sudo" any command, but not require password on using just one command? |
| 15:21.01 | amorphix | !lart EdibleText |
| 15:21.06 | johnga1t | (something like NOPASSWD: /bin/foo, ALL)? |
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| 15:21.12 | greycat | johnga1t: tried two lines yet? |
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| 15:21.30 | nagual | two lines of what? :) |
| 15:21.32 | JoshH | johnga1t: username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL |
| 15:21.39 | sussudio | ooh... that ignore on grigora was set ages ago here... |
| 15:21.49 | EdibleText | NvrMind, it is in PATH for root but not a user ... ( on this box anyway) |
| 15:22.04 | johnga1t | JoshH: that will give NOPASSWD on all, right? can i use username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/foo ? |
| 15:22.07 | JoshH | oh nevermind |
| 15:22.07 | JoshH | ya |
| 15:22.34 | JoshH | im not sure about that |
| 15:22.43 | sussudio | EdibleText: still beats the thicknet-of-nine tails. |
| 15:22.53 | rob_lt | chmod 4755 /usr/bin/foo :) |
| 15:23.18 | JoshH | johnga1t: just try that real quick i guess. :) |
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| 15:25.13 | johnga1t | greycat: know where the lockfile is that sets the timeout on sudo-ing ? |
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| 15:26.06 | greycat | UTSL? |
| 15:26.28 | greycat | man sudo has some stuff under FILES |
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| 15:27.00 | johnga1t | greycat: thanks ever so much. |
| 15:27.21 | BleSS | I need some help: http://rafb.net/paste/results/o6o66h78.nln.html |
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| 15:28.11 | Zoohouse | I know that this is a debian channel, but since my question regards apt, i believe this is the best place to ask. I currently run Mandrake10.1. I have setup apt on my system and have set up a few rpm repositories for my use. My question is, can I include any apt repository in the apt's sources.list or do I have to find apt repositories that carry apt packages for Mandrake10.1 (if there is even such a thing). Thanks in ahead for any help |
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| 15:28.41 | Delph | Zoohouse: you're best with packages that are deisnged to work with the other packages you have in your apt sources. |
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| 15:28.59 | Delph | eg, changing entirely to debian ones and doing a dist-upgrade is a (not reccomended) way to change distros =:) |
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| 15:29.12 | abrotman | heh |
| 15:29.12 | Delph | but having half-and half of say, mandrake and ubuntu is a recipie for disaster. |
| 15:29.24 | `Sphere` | how do I convert an rpm package to debian using alien ? |
| 15:29.25 | Aronofsky | hi |
| 15:29.29 | Zoohouse | :) |
| 15:29.41 | uglyrock | Hi all |
| 15:29.44 | stew | `Sphere`: what are you trying to convert, chances are there is a better way than using an rpm |
| 15:29.47 | Oougho | hello, I'm installing x-window system on debian first time and I need some help |
| 15:29.52 | jaiger | Zoohouse, I read that the rpm apt ports are not compatible with the debian versions |
| 15:30.01 | Zoohouse | ah |
| 15:30.06 | hellop | oougho apt-get install enlightenment |
| 15:30.07 | `Sphere` | stew: jre |
| 15:30.13 | `Sphere` | (jave runtime edition) |
| 15:30.14 | stew | `Sphere`: /msg dpkg install java |
| 15:30.19 | asg | Oougho: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 15:30.21 | `Sphere` | thanks |
| 15:30.28 | stew | `Sphere`: or /msg dpkg java as it says in the /topic |
| 15:30.28 | hellop | kde = 697MB enlightenment= 21MB |
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| 15:30.43 | Zoohouse | so the apt ports airnt realy ment for rpm based systems to make use of apt packages? |
| 15:30.45 | Hamzouz | Malik95 #debian-fr c mieu ya pa le mode +l |
| 15:30.46 | Hamzouz | lol |
| 15:30.49 | uglyrock | Please can someone give me apointer, I am trying to reconigure networking on Woody, and can't figure out which config files I should define the default gateway in. anyone ? |
| 15:30.51 | Pappa | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/fifty.html |
| 15:30.52 | Malik95 | XDR |
| 15:30.56 | `Sphere` | why not using the rpm that comes with jre btw ? |
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| 15:31.01 | Pappa | five minutes till 50million downloads |
| 15:31.06 | Delph | `Sphere`: because it's not debianised. |
| 15:31.15 | `Sphere` | okay |
| 15:31.23 | Delph | java-package makes it fit in with all the other debian java packages. |
| 15:31.24 | stew | `Sphere`: make-jpkg will do a much better job |
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| 15:31.34 | streuner_ | BleSS: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2005/03/msg00218.html |
| 15:31.42 | Delph | s/makes it/tries to make it/ |
| 15:31.44 | hellop | ugly: route add default gw 10.0.0.1 eth0 |
| 15:31.46 | zignig | bleh! |
| 15:32.00 | uglyrock | Thanks very much, thats great |
| 15:32.12 | hellop | ugly: no I mean man route |
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| 15:32.39 | vilemaxim | hellop, will that stick after a reboot? |
| 15:32.57 | uglyrock | hellop got it all working now, many thanks |
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| 15:34.47 | jaiger | Zoohouse, your question doesn't make sense to me |
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| 15:35.16 | jaiger | Zoohouse, the apt-rpm ports use rpms and have a different repository format from the debian native apt |
| 15:35.26 | toubsu | if you do a make install on a package, can you then do a make uninstall? |
| 15:35.43 | `Sphere` | no man entry for make-jpkg |
| 15:35.45 | `Sphere` | :/ |
| 15:35.47 | Zoohouse | jaiger: thats the part i was confused about |
| 15:35.52 | jaiger | Zoohouse, therefore you can't mix and patch .deb and .rpm apt repositories |
| 15:36.06 | jaiger | Zoohouse, I haven't tried it, this is based on my reading (about a year ago) |
| 15:36.17 | jaiger | s/patch/match |
| 15:36.27 | Zoohouse | jaiger: I thought the apt ports converted apt packages so rpm based systems can make use of them |
| 15:36.35 | jaiger | toubsu, sometimes yes - depends if the developer put that in the Makefile |
| 15:36.51 | jaiger | Zoohouse, there's no such thing as "apt packages" AFAIK |
| 15:37.01 | Zoohouse | i see |
| 15:37.13 | Zoohouse | good thing i asked before going to apt-get.org! :D |
| 15:37.25 | jaiger | Zoohouse, there's either debian packages (.deb files) or RPM packages (.rpm files) |
| 15:37.30 | stew | !localhost make-jpkg.1.gz |
| 15:37.40 | stew | localhost |
| 15:37.44 | stew | what am i smoking |
| 15:37.51 | stew | !locate make-jpkg.1.gz |
| 15:37.56 | BleSS | I need info about input devices to build x configuration: http://rafb.net/paste/results/4LU1p385.nln.html |
| 15:37.57 | thandavarayan | Zoohouse: yes, currently two packaging systems available |
| 15:38.08 | stew | !test |
| 15:38.08 | dpkg | Yes, stew, you're still online. |
| 15:38.13 | Zoohouse | Sounds good |
| 15:38.15 | Zoohouse | alright |
| 15:38.17 | stew | !find make-jpkg.1.gz |
| 15:38.20 | Zoohouse | Thanx for the help |
| 15:38.24 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'make-jpkg.1.gz' (1): (/usr/share/man/man1/make-jpkg.1.gz) in contrib/misc/java-package. |
| 15:38.26 | stew | `Sphere`: ^^^ |
| 15:38.26 | Zoohouse | oh wait, btw |
| 15:38.34 | `Sphere` | thanks stew :) |
| 15:38.35 | thandavarayan | Zoohouse: don't apologize |
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| 15:39.01 | stew | `Sphere`: if you have java-pacakge installed then you should not get an error with man make-jpkg |
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| 15:39.28 | Zoohouse | lets say i want apt to check for a diff key for each repo can it be done? |
| 15:39.50 | `Sphere` | stew - I don't have a java package installed |
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| 15:40.07 | `Sphere` | didn't install with sarge I guess |
| 15:40.13 | jaiger | Zoohouse, you mean gpg key? yes |
| 15:40.21 | Zoohouse | ok I'll checkl out the man pages. Ill be back if I can't find it |
| 15:40.26 | fabietto | Hi at all. I just installed Matlab on my debian... when i run it, i get this error message: "/usr/local/bin/matlab: line 1: /lib/libc.so.6: Permission denied"... i googled a lot but i didn't find a solution... any ideas? |
| 15:40.45 | thandavarayan | fabietto: can you able to run matlab |
| 15:41.02 | thandavarayan | fabietto: I too have the same problem, but matlab runs without any problem |
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| 15:41.14 | fabietto | thandavarayan: yes, matlab starts... but never at the first try... |
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| 15:41.48 | stew | `Sphere`: /msg dpkg install java |
| 15:41.50 | thandavarayan | fabietto: oh thats serious, I have the same error, even though the library is found in that path |
| 15:41.56 | xpato | how can i make a user start a diferent desktop? |
| 15:42.01 | thandavarayan | fabietto: but matlab starts without any problem |
| 15:42.02 | xpato | the default its kde |
| 15:42.14 | xpato | and i want user x start twm |
| 15:42.17 | Aronofsky | need a little explanation about pam, try to understand vsftp /pam autehntication and in my pam.d/vsftpd file I only got an 'auth required pam_shells.so' directive. I don't get it. Is it sufficient. Do in not need an account and password directive ? |
| 15:42.18 | xpato | xinitrc? |
| 15:42.42 | possie | to do backups of your root filesystem, is it okee to just go into single user mode, and do the backup? or isn't that save? |
| 15:42.51 | fabietto | thandavarayan: yes, exactly the same situation... |
| 15:42.58 | asg | possie: it's better to remount / ro |
| 15:43.23 | thandavarayan | I have custom session, runs the gnome build but that is not displayed in gdm session menu, any ideas |
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| 15:43.57 | fabietto | thandavarayan: can i ask you another question? the installer didn't created the kde icons to run matlab... i manually created the link to "matlab", but there are also others useful scripts to link? |
| 15:43.58 | thandavarayan | fabietto: Guess we need to report to matworks |
| 15:44.32 | skorpion | For error I have modified the rows "preferences" and "sources.list" of my debian sarge. You can give the predefined rows to me, just? |
| 15:44.44 | thandavarayan | fabietto: what exactly you meant by that |
| 15:44.50 | mh_le | does anyone here have any experience with installing more then one sound card? |
| 15:45.05 | vilemaxim | I just switch over my dsl over from pvc to pppoe and I'm running into some problems. The router is a woody box. The windows xp machines are acting like there is a wrong mtu (i.e. some websites take forever to load, some load fine, some never load) I thought the linux boxes were ok, because they have no problem loading websites, but I was going to grab a 2.6 kernel from backports to see if that fixes the problem and but stops downloading after 2 seconds. |
| 15:45.05 | vilemaxim | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:45.58 | fabietto | thandavarayan: sorry, my english isn't very good... :-) when you installed matlab, which icons has created the installer? |
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| 15:47.06 | thandavarayan | fabietto: Got it, I see no icons available, to lauch, I done that manually. Usually, I use shell to start without java virtual machine |
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| 15:47.11 | yang | Which app is good for calendar reminder? must be gui |
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| 15:47.27 | thandavarayan | yang: evolutions, works good for me |
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| 15:47.34 | Aronofsky | anyone ? |
| 15:47.46 | OctalTHOR | Is there some package that can quickly approximate the disk usage of very large directory trees (think on the order of ten full linux file trees..) |
| 15:47.48 | OctalTHOR | ? |
| 15:47.51 | goron | Is there anyone that's running the nvidia binary driver? I still have the problem that when I compile it and run it, everything works, but after a reboot, the X-server crashes. I have no idea what the solution could be. Anyone? |
| 15:47.54 | fabietto | thandavarayan: so... simply launching "matlab" from a shell... |
| 15:47.57 | skorpion | For error I have modified the rows "preferences" and "sources.list" of my debian sarge. You can give the predefined rows to me, just? |
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| 15:48.03 | stew | OctalTHOR: du |
| 15:48.08 | OctalTHOR | goron : Are you -just- rebooting, or rebooting with a new kernel? |
| 15:48.14 | OctalTHOR | stew: Not fast enough. |
| 15:48.20 | goron | OctalTHOR: just rebooting. |
| 15:48.31 | OctalTHOR | goron: What does the X server tell you when it crashes? |
| 15:48.53 | OctalTHOR | goron: Er, oh, did you add the nvidia module to /etc/modules, so that it's automatically loaded on boot? |
| 15:48.55 | goron | OctalTHOR: Caught signal X. I thought X was 14. |
| 15:48.55 | thandavarayan | fabietto: During installation it will ask to link binary file to the standard bin dir. Say, /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin |
| 15:49.01 | goron | OctalTHOR: yes |
| 15:49.22 | thandavarayan | fabietto: Once this link is created then starting matlab in the shell will not be a problem. |
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| 15:49.35 | OctalTHOR | goron: Hm. I don't know, then. What kernel are you running? Which Debian? |
| 15:49.55 | goron | There was a time I had kernel 2.6.7 and it all worked, then I did an upgrade and everything stopped working. Downgrading also didn't help., |
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| 15:50.04 | goron | OctalTHOR: 2.6.9 Unstable |
| 15:50.19 | OctalTHOR | goron: Using Debian kernels? |
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| 15:50.38 | goron | OctalTHOR: No, they don't support my networkcard standard. |
| 15:50.50 | Nahemoth | weiß jemand ob bei der ubuntu live cd die enstellungen gespeichert und beim nächsten boot wieder geladen werden können? |
| 15:50.59 | goron | Nahemoth: English |
| 15:51.01 | drac | goron: New nvidia packages won't work with less than 2.6.8 now. |
| 15:51.02 | OctalTHOR | goron : I'm not really sure what the problem might be. |
| 15:51.07 | OctalTHOR | ~german |
| 15:51.08 | apt | hmm... german is #debian.de - deutschsprachige Debian-Hilfe gibt es in #debian.de |
| 15:51.27 | fabietto | thandavarayan: perfect, thank you! :-) |
| 15:51.28 | thandavarayan | Nahemoth: danke kein deutsche |
| 15:51.31 | goron | drac: What is a kernel version that will most likely work? |
| 15:51.32 | OctalTHOR | ~ubuntu |
| 15:51.33 | apt | methinks ubuntu is uma distribuicao baseada no debian, livre, que se comprometeu a lancar muitos releases (de 6 em 6 meses). A palavra ubuntu significa 'uma pessoa eh uma pessoa atraves das outras'. Pergunte-me sobre debian-ubuntu. <http://www.ubuntulinux.org> |
| 15:51.36 | Zoohouse | I can not seem to find how to tell apt what key to use for each repo... I checked the man for apt, sources.list, apt-get |
| 15:51.40 | thandavarayan | fabietto: working now |
| 15:51.46 | Nahemoth | k |
| 15:51.47 | drac | goron: 2.6.8 and everything up to that. |
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| 15:51.57 | goron | drac: Well, I run 2.6.9 |
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| 15:52.07 | smacnay | goron: the 2.6.8 kernels work with the nvidia drivers (I recommend using the Debian kernel-source-2.6.8). Don't go any higher than 2.6.8 unless you want to be patching the kernel source with nvidia stuff. |
| 15:52.19 | Zoohouse | BTW the firefox download count is almost at 50,000 :D |
| 15:52.21 | drac | goron: apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-settings && apt-get install module-assistant && m-a a-i nvidia .. |
| 15:52.21 | OctalTHOR | drac: I don't have a problem at home running 2.6.11. |
| 15:52.42 | drac | OctalTHOR: Did I say something like that it wouln't work on 2.6.11? |
| 15:52.54 | goron | drac: I did that once. |
| 15:52.55 | lilalinux | does anybody know how I can specify for nfs in /etc/fstab which user should be used at the server side? |
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| 15:52.58 | OctalTHOR | drac: No clue. |
| 15:53.06 | fabietto | thandavarayan: yes, it works... but it never starts at the first try... i can see the matlab splash screen for a while, but it immediatly disappears... when i launch matlab for the second time, the program starts, with the window title "matlab (2)" |
| 15:53.09 | goron | drac: And it didn't work. |
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| 15:53.56 | goron | OctalTHOR: Did you need to patch anything? |
| 15:53.58 | thandavarayan | fabietto: thats bit strange, did you watch any dump in the shell during the first start. |
| 15:54.05 | OctalTHOR | goron: Nope. |
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| 15:54.18 | goron | OctalTHOR: Well, then I will try my luck with 2.6.11 |
| 15:54.25 | fabietto | thandavarayan: what do you intend for "dump"? |
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| 15:55.22 | bgat | is anyone having problems with the sarge installer and grub in machines with IDE+SCSI? |
| 15:55.33 | thandavarayan | fabietto: If you start any application through the shell, you will see the application dumps something. Is there any dump you see while starting matlab for first time |
| 15:55.39 | possie | asg: okee telinit 1, and the remount to readonly, the do backup? |
| 15:55.39 | bgat | I keep getting an "loading stage1.5 error 15" at reboot |
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| 15:56.40 | thandavarayan | fabietto: if so, you can know what is happening while the application starts |
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| 15:57.10 | Oougho | fatal-server error: no screens found |
| 15:57.17 | Oougho | I always get this error |
| 15:57.20 | Oougho | what to do? |
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| 15:57.31 | Oougho | so I'm trying to install X |
| 15:57.31 | thandavarayan | Oougho: when you get this |
| 15:58.01 | bgat | is anyone having problems with the sarge installer and grub in machines with IDE+SCSI? |
| 15:58.02 | bgat | I keep getting an "loading stage1.5 error 15" at reboot |
| 15:58.03 | OctalTHOR | Oougho : Look above; there should be a line starting with like (EE). |
| 15:58.09 | OctalTHOR | Oougho : That's the "real" error. |
| 15:58.23 | Oougho | EE: No devices detected |
| 15:58.31 | OctalTHOR | Oougho : Okay. What kind of video card do you have? |
| 15:58.35 | fabietto | thandavarayan: i can't see that now... i should reboot before... now matlab starts, and the shell remaining "suspended"... |
| 15:58.39 | Oougho | Ati rage 128 |
| 15:58.44 | asg | possie: sounds good. Make sure to exclude /proc and /sys from your backup also |
| 15:58.47 | thandavarayan | Oougho: did you configured the xserver-xfree86 properly |
| 15:58.55 | Oougho | I think so |
| 15:59.08 | OctalTHOR | Oougho : Paste your XF86Config-4 to http://channels.debian.net/paste please. |
| 15:59.17 | thandavarayan | fabietto: okay |
| 16:00.01 | Oougho | OctalTHOR: How do I do that? |
| 16:00.03 | possie | asg: k thanks for the tip, btw telinit 1 doesn't bring network down right? |
| 16:00.10 | OctalTHOR | Oougho : Good point. |
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| 16:00.16 | OctalTHOR | Oougho : Can you DCC it to me? |
| 16:00.29 | asg | possie: it might drop sshd |
| 16:00.32 | toubsu | what is the dcc send command |
| 16:00.38 | OctalTHOR | toubsu : What client? |
| 16:00.41 | Oougho | I can try |
| 16:00.48 | toubsu | mirc |
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| 16:00.50 | thandavarayan | Oougho: copy the XF86config-4 file and put it in the specified link |
| 16:00.58 | OctalTHOR | toubsu : No clue; I use BitchX. |
| 16:01.06 | OctalTHOR | thandavarayan : He has no X. |
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| 16:01.33 | jcuk | When apt installs a program where does it install to? |
| 16:01.39 | asg | jcuk: dpkg -L <pkg> |
| 16:01.39 | OctalTHOR | jcuk : Depends on the program. |
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| 16:02.02 | jcuk | thanks |
| 16:02.05 | thandavarayan | jcuk: depends how it is packed |
| 16:02.27 | jcuk | i dunno im just tryna find my aMSN dir to get an icon |
| 16:02.29 | Lorvija | how can i kill amsn when it kinda froze... did killall amsn and it did kill it but those amsn windowses are still open and impossible to close |
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| 16:02.44 | jcuk | Lorvija, my amsn just froze aswell |
| 16:02.46 | OctalTHOR | Lorvija : So, the processes are NOT running now? |
| 16:02.46 | asg | Lorvija: try xkill (and click one of the windows) |
| 16:02.59 | Lorvija | OctalTHOR nope |
| 16:03.04 | Lorvija | asg okay ill try |
| 16:03.04 | thandavarayan | Lorvija: find the pid of the amsn and kill pid |
| 16:03.05 | zignig | jcuk: dpkg -L <package_name> |
| 16:03.05 | zignig | asg: lag! grrr :) |
| 16:03.13 | asg | zignig: hehe |
| 16:03.23 | zignig | asg: how ya doin ? |
| 16:03.27 | jcuk | thanks zignig |
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| 16:03.29 | asg | zignig: pretty good, you? |
| 16:03.40 | thandavarayan | Lorvija: force quit in gnome also do very good job in killing |
| 16:03.46 | zignig | asg: first week at a new job , so ... deflated. |
| 16:04.01 | asg | zignig: ah, at least you are working. I assume that is a good thing. |
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| 16:04.09 | Lorvija | asg hmm.. now i clicked that darn window and it killed my toolbar or whats that name... |
| 16:04.17 | zignig | asg: pays for my drug habits ;)) |
| 16:04.19 | Lorvija | thandavarayan i got KDE |
| 16:04.21 | asg | Lorvija: gnome-panel or somesuch |
| 16:04.24 | biblio | HOLA A TODOS DESDE ESPAÑA!!! |
| 16:04.29 | asg | !es |
| 16:04.29 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:04.40 | asg | Lorvija: then amsn did something naughty. |
| 16:04.52 | thandavarayan | Lorvija: open the konsole, use top command to list the processes |
| 16:04.54 | asg | zignig: thanks, I quit that many years ago. I'm partial to a beer though ;) |
| 16:05.05 | zignig | !beer asg |
| 16:05.09 | asg | whoohoo |
| 16:05.24 | zignig | :) |
| 16:05.25 | thandavarayan | Lorvija: it also shows pid (process id) for the corresponding process. |
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| 16:05.40 | thandavarayan | Lorvija: use kill pid |
| 16:06.34 | zignig | asg: I came across mac routing today , very spooky. |
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| 16:07.32 | Lorvija | hmm that xkill really doesnt work well in KDE (: or what ever the reason is.. |
| 16:07.40 | Lorvija | just kills everything else but that frozen window |
| 16:07.49 | jcuk | nice xkill worked :) |
| 16:07.59 | Lorvija | had to restart X :/ |
| 16:08.16 | jcuk | Lorvija, use gnome :) |
| 16:08.40 | Lorvija | jcuk well yea.. just been used to KDe.. |
| 16:08.58 | jcuk | erm |
| 16:09.04 | jcuk | does xkill stop the process starting again? |
| 16:09.13 | Lorvija | jcuk nope? |
| 16:09.29 | jcuk | ive just tried to start amsn several times, even in console. its just displays as if its running but its nopt |
| 16:09.31 | jcuk | not* |
| 16:09.52 | jcuk | hold on ill restart x |
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| 16:10.55 | yang | I get (gdeskcal:5182): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixmap_foreign_new_for_display: assertion `(anid != 0)' failed |
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| 16:11.28 | DwyaneWade | hey i have the next problem: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/flash -> mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 16:11.45 | DwyaneWade | shouldn't the sda1 be good mounitng a sub flash? |
| 16:12.15 | neomorphix | try just with sda |
| 16:12.28 | neomorphix | depends how the flash drive is setup |
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| 16:13.36 | jcuk | amsn acting really strange :S |
| 16:13.42 | Lorvija | jcuk amsn has several problems.. i need to start it 2 times.. first time it just opens the main window and immediately closes it... second time it works.. |
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| 16:14.12 | z1tr3k | how can i add linux to boot at the windows boot manager? |
| 16:14.21 | OctalTHOR | z1tr3k : I don't think you can. |
| 16:14.47 | OctalTHOR | z1tr3k : But GrUB can boot Windows fine. |
| 16:14.47 | thandavarayan | z1tr3k: that is not possible I guess |
| 16:15.34 | pusling | I have downloaded a source (apt-get source) and build-dep... I want to make a version with gdb-debugging. How do I build a debian package with the debugging symbols ? |
| 16:15.53 | neomorphix | #z1tr3k: what version of windows is it? |
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| 16:17.45 | mh_le | cahoot: it seems that snd_mixer_oss and mixer_pcm_oss are loaded.. maybe that have something to do with it? |
| 16:17.46 | moshii | z1tr3k: why not use GRUB or LILO to boot windows ... |
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| 16:18.17 | cahoot | mh_le: those are alsas oss emulation layer |
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| 16:18.33 | Lorvija | whats quick and fast image previewer? like irfanview for windows.. has the basic adjustment functions |
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| 16:18.40 | mh_le | cahoot: but it seems that gnome is using the oss_mixer |
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| 16:18.47 | Lorvija | (using kde) |
| 16:18.57 | thandavarayan | Lorvija: kuickshow |
| 16:18.58 | moshii | Lorvija: kuickview |
| 16:18.59 | cahoot | mh_le: I know nothing about gnome - sorry |
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| 16:19.06 | mh_le | okay :) |
| 16:19.08 | moshii | Lorvija: sorry Kuickshow |
| 16:19.19 | phaer | Huhu |
| 16:19.24 | Lorvija | okay thanks thandavarayan and moshii |
| 16:19.31 | cahoot | mh_le: but alsamixer should work for you |
| 16:19.56 | anto9us | once I've installed sarge can I migrate its /home to an existing one |
| 16:19.59 | mh_le | cahoot: yeah, but it seems that gnome is using oss to play sounds |
| 16:20.00 | phaer | Wenn ich 2 Bildschirme mit 2 Grafikkarten an einen Rechner anschließen will, was brauch ich da an Software, damit die beiden "zusammenhaengen"? |
| 16:20.06 | phaer | oh |
| 16:20.07 | phaer | sry |
| 16:20.14 | phaer | wrong channel |
| 16:20.21 | cahoot | mh_le: via esd? |
| 16:20.21 | `Sphere` | make-jpkg still doesn't work -- after running it on the bin file I got from sun it gives this error -> No matching plugin was found |
| 16:20.22 | Zenox | I always get a warning from a missing dependency when running dselect. A package that recommends "libwxgtk2.4-python" which isn't available either. No worries though as I don't need it. But can I get rid of the warningmessage somehow? |
| 16:20.24 | neomorphix | #phaer: its ok |
| 16:20.38 | mh_le | cahoot: esd? |
| 16:20.44 | moshii | anto9us: you can link /home to somewhere else .. |
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| 16:22.00 | rob_lt | Well, I have dbus and hald installed, and have set KDE to show desktop icons for my mounted CD/DVD drive to show when mounted, but they still aren't appearing when I mount the drive. Any suggestions? |
| 16:22.00 | phaer | If i want to connect 2 screens to one computer: Do i need any extra software? |
| 16:22.00 | cahoot | mh_le: never mind - what app is it you're trying to use? |
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| 16:22.00 | mh_le | cahoot: Rhytmebox |
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| 16:22.05 | thandavarayan | rob_lt: I guess still there is work around for kde in that regard |
| 16:22.24 | jhave | how do i make a debian boot floppy |
| 16:22.31 | cahoot | mh_le: yes - if I remeber correct rythmbox uses /dev/dsp i e oss |
| 16:22.38 | moshii | phaer: you need multiple cards, or a card that can handle multiple cards, and some time to configure xfree for it |
| 16:22.40 | rob_lt | thandavarayan, so this is a known problem? I've googled for a 1/2 hour and can't find any help. |
| 16:23.00 | pusling | jhave: dd if=somefloppyimage of=/dev/fd0 |
| 16:23.02 | nathan__ | how well does X/KDE perform with 256mb of ram compared to 512mb? |
| 16:23.04 | thandavarayan | rob_lt: yes, but ubuntu guys has done that for kubuntu. |
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| 16:23.16 | rob_lt | thandavarayan, ok, thanks |
| 16:23.45 | phaer | moshii: k, i've got 2 cards. |
| 16:23.50 | thandavarayan | rob_lt: gnome is more friendly in that regard... |
| 16:23.53 | McKillroy | Which packages would give me the most minimal kde ? kde-base ? |
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| 16:24.07 | McKillroy | Just for running ksensors |
| 16:24.09 | moshii | phaer: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/ |
| 16:24.10 | phaer | moshii: can you tell me more about/give me a link for the configuration of xfree86 |
| 16:24.16 | phaer | moshii: oh, thx :) |
| 16:24.20 | rob_lt | gnome was working very nice for me, but KDE just seems so much snappier. |
| 16:24.23 | thandavarayan | McKillroy: minimal for ..... can't get your requirement |
| 16:24.41 | Zenox | !apt |
| 16:24.41 | dpkg | hmm... apt is the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. Apt kicks ass. |
| 16:24.46 | McKillroy | minimal for running ksensors |
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| 16:24.51 | thandavarayan | rob_lt: yes |
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| 16:25.41 | moshii | is there anything like kaffeine that isn't becoming more and more horrible between versions? |
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| 16:26.19 | thandavarayan | McKillroy: try install ksensors, it will pull the dependencies automatically. |
| 16:26.29 | Zenox | moshii: MPlayer? :P |
| 16:26.39 | rob_lt | is kubuntu actually a separate distro from ubuntu? Why didn't they just contribute their efforts towards KDE into ubuntu? |
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| 16:26.48 | stew | rob_lt: #ubuntu |
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| 16:26.52 | moshii | Zenox: is there a kde front end for it in debian? |
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| 16:27.18 | rob_lt | kmplayer |
| 16:27.22 | `Sphere` | what java runtime edition should I download in order to be able to make-jpkg from it ? |
| 16:27.43 | mhalcrow | telnet host 6010 gives Connection refused; telnet localhost 6010 on the host works. |
| 16:27.47 | mhalcrow | No firewall. |
| 16:27.56 | greycat | mhalcrow: lsof -i :6010 |
| 16:27.56 | stew | `Sphere`: latest 1.4 (1.4.2_06?) |
| 16:27.57 | Zenox | moshii: unsure of what libs the gui needs hmm |
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| 16:28.35 | `Sphere` | stew - latest is 1.5 I think |
| 16:28.37 | moshii | Zenox: mplayer can't handle DVD menus yet can it? |
| 16:28.40 | stew | `Sphere`: yes |
| 16:28.48 | `Sphere` | jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586-rpm.bin |
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| 16:28.57 | mhalcrow | greycat: Just apps running over ssh X forwarding |
| 16:29.03 | `Sphere` | that's what I got.. make-jpkg sais it doesn't have the plugin for it |
| 16:29.07 | mhalcrow | I need my UML to be able to connect to my host X server. |
| 16:29.25 | greycat | mhalcrow: then you want xhost |
| 16:29.32 | Zenox | moshii: haven't tried running dvd with it since a couple of yrs now, just using a standalone dvd players nowadays |
| 16:29.35 | greycat | mhalcrow: and may the gods have mercy on you. |
| 16:29.38 | mhalcrow | I can't even connect though. |
| 16:29.45 | stew | `Sphere`: you don't want the rpm version, and i still recommend 1.4 over 1.5 |
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| 16:30.00 | mhalcrow | Remote connections are flat out refused; no opportunity to give xauth stuff. |
| 16:30.08 | greycat | mhalcrow: /msg dpkg nolisten |
| 16:30.12 | `Sphere` | stew - so I need to get the sources ? |
| 16:30.12 | EdibleText | mhalcrow, perhaps 'host' doenst resolve as you axpect it to? |
| 16:30.27 | greycat | EdibleText: /msg dpkg nolisten |
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| 16:30.53 | mhalcrow | EdibleText: I'm using an IP address. |
| 16:31.17 | rob_lt | moshii, have you looked at vlc? |
| 16:31.34 | EdibleText | mhalcrow, /msg dpkg nolisten ;) |
| 16:31.35 | stew | `Sphere`: no, not the sources, just the non-rpm version of linux jre |
| 16:31.44 | `Sphere` | ahh.. yeah.. I see it now :) thx ! |
| 16:31.45 | qwertz | Hi! I need a tool to draw network plans, found dia but are there other recommendable tools I should have a look at? |
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| 16:32.16 | moshii | rob_lt: a while ago, i really need something that does decent dvd and subtitle handling |
| 16:32.28 | mhalcrow | Oh, the wisdom of dpkg. |
| 16:32.31 | thandavarayan | qwertz: dia is good, you can also xfig... |
| 16:32.49 | stew | moshii: ogle? |
| 16:32.50 | priest | moshii: ogle? or vlc? |
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| 16:32.52 | rob_lt | moshii, vlc plays DVD with subtitles just fine |
| 16:33.19 | rob_lt | qwertz, there is also inkscape, a vector drawing program, but that might not be exactly what you are looking for. |
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| 16:34.02 | moshii | stew: ogle doesn't render any video on my setup :/ |
| 16:34.21 | qwertz | thandavarayan, rob_lt thanks will take a look |
| 16:34.47 | stew | moshii: wierd, its always been extremely plug n play for me. ask in #ogle maybe |
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| 16:35.45 | kpanik | cu all |
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| 16:35.59 | moshii | stew: I really need something that can handle mpeg4 video + SRT subtitles as well though, installing VLC |
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| 16:36.23 | EdibleText | Its a good thing I bathed today. I have just been informed that I am expected to have lunch (in public) because of Professional Admistrative Assistants Day. |
| 16:36.41 | thandavarayan | EdibleText: g8 |
| 16:36.42 | Overand | is there an easy way to make wget ignore robots.txt, or does it automatically? |
| 16:36.54 | Overand | Im having a hard time using wget -m to make a mirror of my GF's old angelfire site |
| 16:37.19 | greycat | Overand: searching for "robots" in man wget didn't come up with anything? |
| 16:37.23 | takatumi | how can I get my the left Alt key working in xterm? Alt-tab works. |
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| 16:37.33 | Overand | greycat: it didn't |
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| 16:38.08 | vezult_ | is there a way to run a command as a different user in a shell script? |
| 16:38.24 | Overand | sudo -u username |
| 16:38.42 | greycat | Overand: funny, I get several matches on robots in the sarge man page. |
| 16:38.56 | greycat | three to be precise. |
| 16:39.01 | Overand | i didn't |
| 16:39.06 | greg_work | is there a way to block an IP after it fails ssh authentication 3 times? (pam module maybe?) |
| 16:39.10 | vezult_ | Overand: thanks |
| 16:39.11 | Overand | i mean, i'm not stupid |
| 16:39.15 | greycat | also 3 in woody. |
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| 16:39.20 | Overand | gah |
| 16:39.21 | Overand | ok |
| 16:39.25 | Overand | so i got it on ONE box |
| 16:39.28 | Overand | and not in another |
| 16:39.31 | Overand | that's rigging strange |
| 16:39.31 | Overand | oh |
| 16:39.35 | Overand | maybe i was too far down in the doc |
| 16:39.39 | priest | vezult_: if you run the script as root, "su user -c command" |
| 16:39.42 | Overand | either way, that's not the problem i'm having, apparnetly |
| 16:40.11 | stew | takatumi: try this resource: XTerm*eightBitInput: False |
| 16:40.26 | McKillroy | Is there a good howto for hardware checking ? Seems my server gets instable since I added two additional ATA Disks (maybe too much power drain). |
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| 16:42.16 | nimrod | anyone know a repository to get mldonkey for Debian-64 ? |
| 16:42.35 | Overand | greycat: from reading the manpage, it looks like it's impossible to do this |
| 16:42.50 | greycat | Overand: I didn't read it closely. you might be correct. |
| 16:42.59 | takatumi | stew: I saw that one on google as well, but it's not just xterm, rxvt behaves the same way too. |
| 16:43.03 | will | i have a hp pavilion with a touchpad does anyone know if i need to enable a module in kernel 2.6 to make it work? it works fine in 2.4 but when kdm starts in 2.6 it cant find core device: mouse |
| 16:43.07 | vezult_ | priest: i've got the script setuid root, but anyway, it tells me that it's got to be run from a terminal |
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| 16:43.30 | greycat | vezult_: linux ignores the setuid and setgid bits on scripts (#! things) |
| 16:43.33 | stew | takatumi: hrm, i never had that problem with rxvt, just xterm |
| 16:44.00 | thandavarayan | will: can be. 2.4.x does not have that support for touch pads I guess. |
| 16:44.08 | stew | Overand: you could always hack the source |
| 16:44.09 | thandavarayan | will: I may be wrong |
| 16:44.09 | nimrod | whats the debian 64 channel ? |
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| 16:44.12 | Overand | heh |
| 16:44.15 | stew | !amd64 |
| 16:44.15 | dpkg | i guess amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
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| 16:44.18 | vezult_ | greycat: hmm...guess I'll have to run the script itself with sudo |
| 16:44.23 | will | thandavarayan oh sory its the 2.6 that doesnt work, 2.4 just worked for some reason |
| 16:44.25 | vezult_ | greycat: thanks |
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| 16:45.06 | stew | !worked in 2.4 |
| 16:45.06 | dpkg | Every time you say "___ doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4", a 25 cent (USD) surcharge must be paid to greycat. |
| 16:45.19 | thandavarayan | will: ooh, last on ibm machine, using ps/2 aux port has worked for me |
| 16:45.28 | EdibleText | will do you have a 'tethered' mouse, usb or ps2, connected also? |
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| 16:45.56 | will | EdibleText nope nothing else right now |
| 16:46.03 | goron | Is the source/design of dpkg available somewhere? |
| 16:46.04 | stew | will /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse ; /msg dpkg synaptics |
| 16:46.16 | stew | goron: the bot? |
| 16:46.22 | goron | stew: yes |
| 16:46.23 | stew | !what are you |
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| 16:46.33 | stew | yike |
| 16:46.38 | stew | goron: blootbot.sf.net |
| 16:46.43 | goron | you killed him :D |
| 16:46.59 | will | dpkg died:( |
| 16:47.07 | amorphix | who is the creator of Debian |
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| 16:47.18 | thandavarayan | amorphix: ian |
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| 16:47.27 | amorphix | ian who |
| 16:47.40 | stew | amorphix: murdock |
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| 16:47.45 | amorphix | what is known of this guy and why doesnt he have a big website |
| 16:47.52 | Jubal | Hah. Does the 82915G (Intel) graphic card work with sarge's X? |
| 16:47.53 | amorphix | he's an unsung hero |
| 16:47.58 | thandavarayan | amorphix: Ian is a guy, has a girl name debora, and name his distro has (deb)ian |
| 16:48.09 | amorphix | oh |
| 16:48.12 | stew | amorphix: he runs progeny now |
| 16:48.14 | amorphix | thats a cool story |
| 16:48.21 | amorphix | whats progeny |
| 16:48.29 | stew | !progeny |
| 16:48.29 | vezult_ | Jubal: yeah. it should. you may have problems though |
| 16:48.32 | Jubal | Debra, iirc. Google for 'debian history' ;-) |
| 16:48.33 | stew | @progeny |
| 16:48.34 | ravenbird | somebody said progeny was the latest in a long line of Debian offshoots to go under (RIP 2001-10-15). "The King is dead; long live The King." http://www.progeny.com/ |
| 16:48.43 | amorphix | woah |
| 16:48.44 | ctmnzZz | Hi people. I seek for channel where I can improve my english :-) |
| 16:48.50 | asg | ctmnzZz: #english |
| 16:48.54 | greycat | heh, "latest" being relative. |
| 16:49.00 | thandavarayan | ctmnzZz: what |
| 16:49.03 | amorphix | he's angry with the way Debian has gone and has removed his support to make another dist? |
| 16:49.11 | vezult_ | Jubal: i'm running a dell computer with a bug in the bios which makes the intel graphics card thing not work right |
| 16:49.11 | stew | amorphix: i believe that they are trying to specialize in "modularized" distros of debian |
| 16:49.14 | gluon | can anyone help me with my custom kernel? it won't boot. my root fs is reiserfs and I tried compiling reiserfs as a module and using initrd and also compiling it in the kernel. Neither did help.The error msg I'm getting is "VFS: Cannot open root device "hda3" or unknown-block (0,0)" and kernel panics. |
| 16:49.20 | Overand | gah. i need to mirror this stupid angelfire site. ::hates:: |
| 16:49.21 | Jubal | vezult_: heh. just encountered one. It's called 'no screens found'. |
| 16:49.24 | amorphix | oh |
| 16:49.26 | stew | amorphix: not angry at all, just trying to make some money |
| 16:49.33 | billy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.36 | amorphix | fair game to him |
| 16:49.50 | amorphix | i bet he had no idea Debian would become so popular |
| 16:49.50 | Jubal | vezult_: fujitsu-siemens scenic p320 here... ;-) |
| 16:49.57 | stew | amorphix: afaik he wasn't actively working on debian for very long, he created it and moved on |
| 16:50.08 | amorphix | oh |
| 16:50.18 | greycat | Overand: s/need/want/ surely? |
| 16:50.30 | amorphix | but Debian has retained his original name |
| 16:50.35 | vezult_ | Jubal: what driver are you using? |
| 16:50.49 | Jubal | i810 |
| 16:50.56 | will | lol, if i didnt have mousedev enabled is that why my mouse didnt work? |
| 16:50.56 | rob_lt | What do most people run for their desktop machines, testing or unstable? |
| 16:51.05 | priest | gluon: check your module for your ide-device |
| 16:51.10 | thandavarayan | testing...I vote |
| 16:51.14 | greycat | rob_lt: if you have to ask, you want sarge. |
| 16:51.20 | amorphix | rob i run testing because i want newer software |
| 16:51.21 | smacnay | I am trying to make nano wrap all text lines at 70 columns. nano -r 70 works fine except for when I ^R a file into the current document. Is there a way to make the column wrap work on files read into the current doc? |
| 16:51.26 | will | mousedev should be enabled by default :P lol |
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| 16:51.31 | vezult_ | Jubal: try the vesa driver. that was the only thing I could get to work for me |
| 16:51.46 | amorphix | unstable i run on my server but i wouldnt recommend it |
| 16:51.49 | greycat | smacnay: most people, when confronted with a limitation of nano, move to another editor. |
| 16:51.57 | Jubal | hah, my users wouldn't be happy. |
| 16:52.00 | greycat | I don't think *anyone* knows any secrets about nano. |
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| 16:52.05 | thandavarayan | amorphix: on server ...ooh |
| 16:52.08 | gluon | priest: it's compiled in |
| 16:52.09 | amorphix | hehe |
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| 16:52.11 | smacnay | greycat: hehe - I guess that answers my question - thanks |
| 16:52.19 | EdibleText | the secret it to avoid it |
| 16:52.25 | priest | gluon: and you are sure it's the right one? |
| 16:52.27 | rob_lt | greycat, I'm not afraid to hack around, but I was wondering if there were infact quite a few people that use sid.... but I don't want to be rebooting every hour :) |
| 16:52.37 | greycat | the only secret I know is "nano -w" to make it not wrap lines and break your scripts. |
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| 16:52.44 | Overand | ok, maybe i'm doing something wrong |
| 16:52.55 | gluon | priest: yes, i've done custom kernels before, but not on Debian |
| 16:53.04 | Overand | if i want to 'mirror' a site, and follow links, and convert them to relative links, it's wget -m -k http://www.whatever.com/some/site |
| 16:53.05 | greycat | Overand: it's not in bthe man page AFAICT. maybe the info page might have it..? |
| 16:53.06 | Jubal | vezult_: but yes, this seems to work, at leas temporary. |
| 16:53.07 | Overand | right? |
| 16:53.13 | Jubal | Thanks. |
| 16:53.20 | Jubal | 'at least' |
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| 16:53.43 | stew | gluon: sounds like you forgot to tell the bootloader about the initrd. did you apt-get this kenrel? |
| 16:53.45 | Overand | ah i see |
| 16:53.59 | rob_lt | greycat, so if I do a s/testing/unstable in my sources.list, and then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade, then I will be running sid? |
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| 16:54.14 | asg | !sid faq |
| 16:54.15 | stew | rob_lt: /msg ravenbird iyhtays |
| 16:54.21 | gluon | stew: i used make-kpkg with initrd flag and installed the package with dpkg |
| 16:54.23 | asg | bah, dpkg did a runner |
| 16:54.36 | rob_lt | !sid faq |
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| 16:54.52 | Melfice | dpkg c/b |
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| 16:55.02 | mops__ | how can I make this with proftpd: |
| 16:55.04 | gluon | stew: so grub was aware of the initrd |
| 16:55.17 | mops__ | I want to log in through ftp |
| 16:55.17 | goron | stew: Ok, it's an infobot. It's just a rule matcher with the rules inputted by humans. Although, it works (pretty good btw), not really interesting. |
| 16:55.25 | mops__ | as different user(s) |
| 16:55.33 | vezult_ | Jubal: when it failed the first time, did you see errors indicating that you had insufficient memory for any given resolution? |
| 16:55.34 | mops__ | but all files that I create and put on server |
| 16:55.45 | mops__ | must belong to user ftp |
| 16:55.51 | mops__ | ftp user is on server |
| 16:56.14 | mops__ | how can I do this with proftpd? |
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| 16:56.21 | stew | gluon: did you config this kenrel yourself? did you start from a debian .config? what kernel version? you should double check the grub config anyway |
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| 16:56.45 | vezult_ | Jubal: that card uses shared video memory. you may need to bump up the video memory allocated in the bios in order to use the i810 driver at any tolerable resolution |
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| 16:57.22 | gluon | stew: actually i did it twice, first with a fresh .config and second time starting with debian .config and removing unnecessary items. kernel version is 2.6.11 |
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| 16:57.37 | WinCrach | I wants to configure my server IRC how I can make |
| 16:57.37 | vezult_ | Jubal: that was my problem at least, 'cept the bios was broken and it wouldnt allocate any more than 1mb of memory |
| 16:57.40 | gluon | stew: grub config shows the initrd correctly |
| 16:57.54 | netcatC | hey folks , |
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| 16:58.05 | amorphix | do you guys get rebates on purchases |
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| 16:58.28 | EdibleText | !info ircd |
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| 16:58.31 | dpkg | ircd: (IRC Server daemon - dummy package), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0 (sid), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 36 kB |
| 16:58.34 | thandavarayan | amorphix: what type of purchases |
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| 16:58.37 | Starfury^ | sep and Gathond , you get my thank you earl;ioer? |
| 16:58.38 | netcatC | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.39 | amorphix | hardware etc |
| 16:58.43 | stew | hahaha: http://www.df7cb.de/debian/shop/ |
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| 16:59.34 | amorphix | hehe |
| 16:59.35 | amorphix | nice work |
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| 16:59.48 | WinCrach | !info ircd |
| 16:59.51 | dpkg | ircd: (IRC Server daemon - dummy package), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0 (sid), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 36 kB |
| 16:59.59 | amorphix | rebates, the great cash swindle |
| 17:00.03 | Coolerdo | Hello all.. If i use apci=of parameter on sarge net-install de system doesnt find the hard drive.. it shows "No partitionable media" |
| 17:00.04 | amorphix | of the USA |
| 17:00.12 | EdibleText | wincrach apt-get install dancer-ircd |
| 17:00.31 | drac | Coolerdo: apci? it's acpi. |
| 17:00.34 | WinCrach | thx :)) |
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| 17:00.48 | NvrMind | How do I tell what serial port my modem is? |
| 17:00.50 | Coolerdo | drac.. ok |
| 17:00.56 | drac | Coolerdo: linux26 acpi=off |
| 17:00.59 | amorphix | probe it |
| 17:01.18 | rob_lt | can I just confirm that there is no such things as "deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main contrib"? |
| 17:01.18 | NvrMind | I wish I knew how to do that |
| 17:01.19 | Coolerdo | drac yeap... but it can find the hard disk |
| 17:01.26 | kooldeb | Coolerdo: that assuming you want the 2.6 kernel |
| 17:01.27 | amorphix | isnt there a command which shows u all the devices attached to system |
| 17:01.32 | amorphix | i cant remember it |
| 17:01.34 | stew | NvrMind: fire up minicom, try them all until "AT" gets you an "OK" back |
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| 17:01.57 | vezult_ | NvrMind: wvdialconf can find it for you |
| 17:02.03 | EdibleText | NvrMind, or you can use wvdial. good for n00bs. |
| 17:02.09 | Coolerdo | kooldeb I know.. I want it.. I can install with kernel 2.4 and works okey.. but not using linux26 |
| 17:02.15 | EdibleText | NvrMind, I know personnally |
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| 17:05.50 | karsten | EdibleText: aptitude, dude. |
| 17:06.02 | kooldeb | hey karsten: |
| 17:06.05 | kooldeb | guess what |
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| 17:06.50 | maff | how might one get double clicking (text selection) to expand past things like "." using xterm |
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| 17:07.28 | maff | i'm pretty sure it has something to do with xterm -cc |
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| 17:09.36 | Jubal | vezult_: it definitely doesn't work with the i810 driver; no matter what amount of VideoRAM is set. |
| 17:10.01 | Pappa | quick way to figure out what my encoding is? |
| 17:10.06 | karsten | kooldeb: Shoot. |
| 17:10.11 | Jubal | (and I couldn't find any place in bios where the amount of memory for the video card could be set) |
| 17:10.12 | stouset | Pappa: encoding for what? |
| 17:10.19 | karsten | Pappa: locale |
| 17:10.28 | Jubal | 'locale'? |
| 17:10.33 | Pappa | input, like iso-8859-1, utf-8 etc |
| 17:10.47 | karsten | Pappa: ^^ |
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| 17:10.57 | Pappa | en_US? =/ |
| 17:10.58 | karsten | Pappa: Web page? Or terminal / session? |
| 17:11.03 | Pappa | terminal |
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| 17:12.03 | mwelsh | ok, i have a strange one today... are there any tools to disassemble a win32 .exe file in debian? |
| 17:12.12 | karsten | Pappa: That's going to be IIRC iso-8859-1 |
| 17:12.30 | possie | asg: ow i have a problem remounting everything readonly for my backup, star has to update /etc/tardumps :-) i guess there is no way to make a certain file readwrite? hehe |
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| 17:12.33 | Pappa | nvm i'll just specify it with the -font option |
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| 17:13.40 | karsten | mwelsh: There's the standard hex editors and strings, for q'n'd analysis. I'm not familiar with disassemblers. |
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| 17:14.14 | vezult_ | Jubal: it may not be configurable in your BIOS. |
| 17:14.17 | mwelsh | karsten: ok, i got it open with hexedit. it seems to be the same thing |
| 17:14.37 | karsten | mwelsh: OK. |
| 17:14.39 | amorphix | :-/ |
| 17:14.46 | Jubal | and probably is not. |
| 17:15.03 | amorphix | 'too many bounces' |
| 17:15.16 | asg | possie: ah, no. |
| 17:15.20 | Jubal | hopefully with the LCD panels the display quality would be acceptable. |
| 17:15.30 | amorphix | is it my fault my mail filtering is too good |
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| 17:16.17 | mops_ | how can I alter gid of user? |
| 17:16.18 | amorphix | well i have a laptop with an LCD screen and i can say the quality is very good, but with very small characters |
| 17:16.26 | mops_ | I have user with gid=1000 |
| 17:16.38 | zinx | amorphix: So, increase your font size.... |
| 17:16.38 | amorphix | *not with |
| 17:16.42 | mops_ | and I want to user's gid=100 |
| 17:16.49 | mops_ | how can I do this please? |
| 17:16.52 | amorphix | zinx: sure, but what if like small fonts |
| 17:17.03 | zinx | amorphix: then you're going to have to live with very small characters |
| 17:17.04 | drac | Jubal: Look at your 'lspci | grep -i vga' result, and specify BusID "PCI:?:?:?" according to it to make it find that card. |
| 17:17.06 | priest | mops_: change in /etc/passwd |
| 17:17.06 | karsten | mops_: vipw; vipw -s |
| 17:17.07 | asg | mops_: vipw |
| 17:17.19 | karsten | mops_: ...or usermod -u |
| 17:17.28 | amorphix | LCD doesnt seem able to render/display the tiny characters as good as a regular monitor can |
| 17:17.37 | Overand | amorphix: over VGA,maybe |
| 17:17.42 | amorphix | yeah |
| 17:17.47 | Overand | amorphix: make sure the refresh rate and rez are the EXACT right ones |
| 17:17.48 | karsten | asg: usermod too. Handles shadow in one swell foop. |
| 17:17.55 | amorphix | ok i will check |
| 17:17.59 | asg | karsten: yeah |
| 17:18.08 | Overand | amorphix: LCDs do NOT display properly if you're not set to the proper rezolution |
| 17:18.16 | Overand | and trhey'll also often look crappy if at the wrong refresh rate |
| 17:18.21 | zinx | amorphix: that's strange, it should render them better |
| 17:18.24 | amorphix | well im set to 1024 x 768 |
| 17:18.27 | Overand | and, once that's set up,you'll want to do 'auto-adjust' |
| 17:18.29 | amorphix | thats fine for this laptop |
| 17:18.30 | Overand | amorphix: what size is the panel? |
| 17:18.35 | amorphix | 14" |
| 17:18.38 | Overand | amorphix: no, on an LCD you *must* use the proper rez |
| 17:18.38 | zinx | amorphix: what's the native resolution of you screen? |
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| 17:18.45 | Overand | if it's a 1280x1024 panel, you MUST use 1280x1024 |
| 17:18.48 | karsten | Overand: Can you even set refresh on LCD? |
| 17:18.48 | zinx | amorphix: LCDs only support one resolution |
| 17:18.53 | amorphix | got u |
| 17:18.56 | Overand | karsten: if it's VGA, yes |
| 17:18.56 | Overand | but |
| 17:19.00 | Overand | if he's on a laptop... like |
| 17:19.00 | zinx | amorphix: the others, they'll scale it. often very poorly. |
| 17:19.05 | dan_ | anyone know why knoppix users are taboo'ed? |
| 17:19.09 | vezult_ | drac: it would probably complain about finding the device rather than "no screens found" if that were the problem |
| 17:19.11 | amorphix | that must be the problem then |
| 17:19.13 | Overand | dan_: debian isn't knoppix |
| 17:19.16 | greycat | dan_: because they're annoying twits |
| 17:19.20 | amorphix | becuz this is not a cheap laptop its a pretty decent compaq |
| 17:19.36 | dan_ | but I'm using knoppix cause I need help installing debain |
| 17:19.43 | dan_ | hmm, heh |
| 17:19.43 | Pappa | damnit X fails with IO error 104 |
| 17:19.59 | karsten | Overand: OK. |
| 17:20.09 | karsten | dan_: knoppix != debian. |
| 17:20.30 | Overand | alright, i've got a directory full of HTML files with non-relative links |
| 17:20.30 | karsten | dan_: ...and stealing voice is a pretty useful way of imparting that message. |
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| 17:20.33 | drac | vezult_: No screen found is just an result, that would come almost from all real errors, including from 'no devices detected' in log. |
| 17:20.46 | asg | hehe, for the person who was asking about progeny, it looks like 3.0 DE PR1 was just released. |
| 17:20.48 | Overand | i can probably do a massive find/replace to pull out the former domain name/etc and 'fix' them |
| 17:20.58 | Overand | suggestions for an app/command line way to do this? |
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| 17:21.10 | karsten | Overand: sed -i ;-) |
| 17:21.10 | Overand | i don't want to open up an editor and be like 'find/replace' and have to do this with each file |
| 17:21.15 | Overand | ah |
| 17:21.24 | Overand | sed is one of those ubiquitous apps i've never learned to use |
| 17:21.27 | Overand | i'll hit the manpage |
| 17:21.37 | karsten | Overand: ...I'd make a backup copy first. |
| 17:21.40 | Overand | hhe |
| 17:21.42 | Overand | yeah. |
| 17:21.48 | mh_le | can someone help me install two soundcards? I have got the one to work, but the otherones isn't |
| 17:21.50 | dan_ | ok, anyhow, down to my question, I'm having problems with debootstrap sarge, its trying to get a package called libgnutls10. The target is a flash card router. I can seem to work out where debootstrap gets its package list from. I need to keep this install slim as its for a 109M flash partition. help help etc, etc... |
| 17:21.56 | newbie_ | How do you get a WIN PC to file share with a DEBIAN box? |
| 17:22.07 | dondelelcaro | perl -pi -e 's/foo/bar/g' foofiles; also works... |
| 17:22.09 | asg | newbie_: SAMBA |
| 17:22.10 | dan_ | samba |
| 17:22.15 | mh_le | newbie_: samba |
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| 17:22.27 | Overand | i suck with regex |
| 17:22.38 | dan_ | newbie_ smbmount //foo/bar /floppy -o username=me,password=blabla |
| 17:22.54 | asg | Overand: then you probably want to use the backup option with -i to prevent yourself from screwing yourself. |
| 17:23.19 | Overand | i already backed up the files |
| 17:23.25 | Overand | step 1 |
| 17:23.29 | dan_ | can anyone help me get this debian net install working. D-i was suggested to me yesterday, I'm not quite understanding how to apply it |
| 17:23.41 | newbie_ | dan: can I add multiple WIN users to that smbmount? (whatever it is?) |
| 17:23.43 | asg | dan_: did you read the installation manual? |
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| 17:24.04 | dan_ | asg theres a MANUAL for installing!!!??? |
| 17:24.07 | Overand | yeek. sed seems somewhat arcane |
| 17:24.11 | asg | !ig |
| 17:24.13 | dpkg | it has been said that ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 17:24.13 | streuner_ | !tell dan_ about ig |
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| 17:24.21 | dan_ | dont forget , this isn't a typical debian install, its for a router |
| 17:24.23 | Overand | dan_: your best bet is to download the 'net install cd' |
| 17:24.28 | dan_ | on a small flash partition |
| 17:24.34 | Overand | ah... |
| 17:24.40 | Overand | can you get said machine to boot off NFS? |
| 17:24.42 | dan_ | I CANT install a full blown debian |
| 17:24.48 | dan_ | not really |
| 17:24.53 | Overand | and how small is said flash? |
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| 17:25.08 | asg | dan_: then debootstrp on a workstation, chroot to it, pare down what you don't need, copy it to the flash drive, chroot to it, install kernel and bootloader, etc. |
| 17:25.12 | dan_ | newbie_ you can mount multiple servers to multiple places |
| 17:25.45 | dan_ | asg fine idea, BUT debootstrap sarge dosn't work because of libgnutls10 |
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| 17:25.52 | amorphix | is it possible to get Debian running on a MIPS pda running on 4mb with flash storage |
| 17:25.56 | dan_ | let me go get more details, brb |
| 17:26.00 | pahvi | amorphix: no |
| 17:26.00 | Overand | debootstrap doesn't work on sarge? |
| 17:26.02 | asg | dan_: when was the last time you updated your sarge box? |
| 17:26.02 | amorphix | :( |
| 17:26.12 | goron | Could anyone look here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/7813 ? |
| 17:26.16 | dan_ | I tried and failed yesterday |
| 17:26.17 | dan_ | one momento |
| 17:26.20 | sussudio | !lose dan_ |
| 17:26.21 | dpkg | dan_: You Lose. |
| 17:26.23 | Overand | amorphix: you *can* get 'linux' running on a box like that, probably |
| 17:26.33 | newbie_ | dan: I have one debian box and want a couple of PCs to be able to write to it and read from it.. that's what I mean. |
| 17:26.37 | Overand | tyhere's a VER VERY stripped down version of linux running on that ZipIt wireless messenger |
| 17:26.40 | Overand | with 2 megs of flash |
| 17:26.43 | amorphix | i want to try and run my PDA with Linux and apache from a potato |
| 17:26.44 | dan_ | newbie_ ah, I see |
| 17:26.46 | Overand | painfully stripped down, but it's got integrated wifi |
| 17:26.51 | fabietto | Hi at all. I've got some problems booting debian sarge (kernel 2.6.8), installed on sata hd on my desktop... the boot process stops saying me: "ata1: command 0xc8 timeout, stat 0x50 host_stat 0x24" and, after a while, "p1 p2 p3 p4"... any ideas? |
| 17:26.56 | dan_ | newbie_ install samba |
| 17:26.59 | goron | The problem is that my NVidia crashes on initializing GLX extension. |
| 17:27.02 | Overand | so you can mount stuff over NFS and ssh to your *proper* box |
| 17:27.02 | dan_ | read /etc/smb.conf |
| 17:27.05 | newbie_ | done |
| 17:27.14 | goron | and I get a signal 11. |
| 17:27.22 | amorphix | my PDA runs off 3v so in theory it's possible to reduce that down without an LCD and run it from potatoes |
| 17:27.25 | Overand | alright, anyone want to help me figure out sed? |
| 17:27.37 | Overand | i'll google 'sed tutorial' |
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| 17:27.42 | dan_ | http://gate-bunker.p6.msu.ru/~berk/router.html |
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| 17:27.45 | asg | Overand: there is also #sed |
| 17:27.49 | pahvi | Overand: what is your problem= |
| 17:27.49 | dan_ | there is what I'm working from |
| 17:27.52 | goron | During the reboot I saw some line saying "removing NVidia TLS links". |
| 17:28.11 | goron | I don't know what TLS stands for, but maybe it breaks something? |
| 17:28.18 | xoz | Overand: /usr/share/doc/sed/sedfaq.txt |
| 17:28.19 | asg | haha: /topic sed (A clean and tidy topic is an indication of a sick channel. |
| 17:28.40 | Overand | i need to convert a pile of html files with abolute links to relative links. i would have just had wget fix them on download, but i couldn't get wget to play nice with angelfire |
| 17:28.46 | Overand | even after disabling robots and using a custom useragent |
| 17:28.50 | stew | amorphix: 4mb isn't enough to run linux |
| 17:28.53 | karsten | Overand: You can use ',' as a delimiter of your expressions, useful when dealing with URLs which use the more common '/' delimiter. |
| 17:28.54 | Overand | s/robots/robots.txt |
| 17:28.57 | karsten | Overand: ',' isn't a valid hostname character, though technically it can appear in local part of URL. |
| 17:29.03 | karsten | Overand: ...not sure if you saw that. Modem bounce. |
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| 17:29.50 | Overand | so s/http:,/,/www.whatever.com,/site/s |
| 17:29.50 | Overand | ? |
| 17:29.52 | newbie_ | dan: how do I add other users to samba? |
| 17:30.04 | Overand | er |
| 17:30.06 | mh_le | can someone help me install two soundcards? I have got the one to work, but the other one isn't... |
| 17:30.18 | Overand | so s/http:,/,/www.whatever.com,/site//g |
| 17:30.20 | goron | drac: Could you look at my error (I just installed 2.6.11.7 and the latest NVidia driver)? |
| 17:30.36 | Overand | would that work to replace http://www.whatever.com/site with 'nothing' ? |
| 17:30.42 | stew | Overand: there are far too many / in that command |
| 17:30.51 | Overand | stew: i need a way to replace a "/" |
| 17:30.53 | drac | goron: Sure. |
| 17:30.59 | Overand | do i backwhack to 'escape' them? |
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| 17:31.13 | stew | Overand: the first char after the s is the char that delimites the from and to |
| 17:31.20 | newbie_ | dan: is pdbedit useful? |
| 17:31.28 | Overand | AH |
| 17:31.29 | Overand | i see |
| 17:31.30 | stew | Overand: s,http://whatever.com/site,,g |
| 17:31.30 | Overand | thanks |
| 17:31.56 | Overand | i misunderstood you when you said delimiter |
| 17:32.00 | Overand | which is lame =] |
| 17:32.07 | goron | drac: Did you see the URL above? |
| 17:32.27 | stew | Overand: s/http:\/\/whatever.com\/site//g is fine too but gross looking |
| 17:32.51 | drac | goron: Did you install nvidia drivers from .debs? |
| 17:32.58 | goron | drac: No |
| 17:33.11 | goron | drac: I tried that once, and that gave the exact same results. |
| 17:33.18 | goron | drac: There's something else wrong. |
| 17:33.38 | Overand | yeah that's really ugly |
| 17:34.05 | mh_le | can someone help install a sound card, it doesn't seem to be working with ALSA.. |
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| 17:34.41 | pahvi | mh_le: try oss drivers |
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| 17:35.36 | Overand | ok, it looks like the expression works, but it's just dumping to stdout. i've got a pile of files, so *.html > something.html will make one big ugly longfile |
| 17:35.51 | drac | goron: And output in your console, if you start X with startx? |
| 17:35.52 | stew | !WikiFaq mh_le UseSoundCard |
| 17:35.53 | dpkg | mh_le: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:36.10 | sparr_ | ive got a game that 'captures' my mouse and keyboard. how can i force it to lose focus so i can manipulate other windows while its running? no, alt-tab, ctrl-left, etc etc do not work. the game just catches the keypresses. i need something on the same 'level' as ctrl-alt-backspace or ctrl-alt-Fn |
| 17:36.11 | drac | goron: Can you post that too? |
| 17:36.11 | Overand | am i going to have to make a little shellscript to go through the files and > somevariable to each one? |
| 17:36.35 | stew | Overand: huh, what are you trying to do? |
| 17:36.45 | schneiderj | Hi I want to install KWifiManager, but during the configure operation I have the following error : can't find X includes. I try to find this library but without success. Have you an adresse ? |
| 17:37.13 | goron | drac: It's only Server caught signal 11 (with the usual stuff). |
| 17:37.15 | Overand | stew: i've got a directory full of html files with 'absolute' links, i'm trying to covnert them to relative links, more or less by taking out the http://www.olddomain.com/olddir/ |
| 17:37.18 | xoz | Overand: use for i in *.html; do <command> > $i; done |
| 17:37.19 | dan_ | newbi<tab><tab>... |
| 17:37.19 | stew | !wayc schneiderj |
| 17:37.20 | dpkg | schneiderj: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 17:37.28 | karsten | Overand: The |
| 17:37.35 | Overand | xoz's sounds good |
| 17:37.36 | karsten | Overand: The '-i' option is "modify in place" |
| 17:37.39 | goron | drac: But if you really need the other details, I could do it. |
| 17:37.40 | Overand | oh |
| 17:37.41 | Overand | heh |
| 17:37.43 | schneiderj | I have not found the apt-get |
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| 17:37.43 | dan_ | ok, I was away a bit, did anyone check out that link I gave? |
| 17:38.01 | dan_ | http://gate-bunker.p6.msu.ru/~berk/router.html |
| 17:38.15 | Raf256 | is there something like top but reporting the disc (and other I/O) usage? |
| 17:38.16 | dan_ | that is what I was supplied with for creating these routers |
| 17:38.18 | Overand | hm |
| 17:38.20 | karsten | Overand: You can also use a loop as xoz said. |
| 17:38.21 | Overand | that didn't seem to work |
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| 17:38.26 | Overand | i'll try the loop |
| 17:38.31 | karsten | Raf256: iostat, vmstat |
| 17:38.41 | karsten | Overand: Command? |
| 17:38.45 | dan_ | I changed the dist to sarge, its basically works via bebootstrap |
| 17:38.48 | schneiderj | Thank for the link ! |
| 17:38.53 | karsten | !tell Overand about esp |
| 17:39.04 | Raf256 | iostat O_o ? |
| 17:39.06 | stew | Overand: seld -i -e "s/....//" *.html ; i'd make a backup opy of the dir first just in case sometihng goes wrong |
| 17:39.06 | onre | that's my username, yes. |
| 17:39.08 | karsten | Overand: "<command> <args>" is a lot more useful on channel than "that". |
| 17:39.12 | dan_ | but I cat even run debootstrap normally for sarge without it breaking |
| 17:39.32 | karsten | stew: I already suggested that (b/u) ;-) |
| 17:39.38 | Raf256 | karsten: I cant find neither a command or package for iostat |
| 17:39.40 | goron | drac: Do you need it? |
| 17:39.47 | Raf256 | !iostat |
| 17:39.50 | karsten | !tell Raf256 about search |
| 17:39.53 | schneiderj | whats mean !wayc ? |
| 17:40.00 | dan_ | so, does anyone have knowledge pertaining to manually or automatically boostrapping debain? |
| 17:40.02 | karsten | Raf256: Install the packages then. |
| 17:40.06 | dan_ | I cant find any on google |
| 17:40.14 | drac | goron: Not sure, but if it isn't a much trouble, please. Log has no useful error to work with. |
| 17:40.20 | stew | !info kwifimanager |
| 17:40.24 | dpkg | kwifimanager: (KDE Wireless Lan Manager), section net, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.2-3 (sid), Packaged size: 184 kB, Installed size: 492 kB |
| 17:40.40 | karsten | schneiderj: Bots are addressed w/ prefix characters. dpkg is '!', ravenbird is '@', apt is '~' |
| 17:40.46 | dan_ | err, have I been talking to a post again?? |
| 17:40.48 | stew | schneiderj: are you on woody or sarge? |
| 17:40.52 | goron | drac: Ok, I will start irssi in a non-graphical GUI and then do it. |
| 17:40.57 | karsten | dan_: Define "manually boostrapping" |
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| 17:41.04 | Lorvija | where do I change debians default language and where I can change gimps language? |
| 17:41.08 | karsten | !tell dan_ about patience. |
| 17:41.21 | dan_ | karsten whatever debootstrap does, but with hand typed commands |
| 17:41.25 | karsten | Lorvija: man locale |
| 17:41.41 | dan_ | I'd prefer to use debootstrap, but it seems it dosn't work |
| 17:41.42 | karsten | dan_: Um. 'dist-upgrade' ? Are you trying to go woody => sarge? |
| 17:41.48 | karsten | dan_: ...or are you trying to run an install? |
| 17:41.48 | Lorvija | karsten okay.. how about that gimp? (: |
| 17:41.48 | dan_ | karsten |
| 17:41.50 | dan_ | no |
| 17:41.52 | schneiderj | I am on sarge |
| 17:41.58 | drac | goron: Another quick'n'dirty 'solution' could be removing, purging xserver-xfree86, xserver-common, xlibs, and reinstalling whole x-window-system metapackage and nvidia drivers. But i'm just guessing here. |
| 17:42.01 | dan_ | I'm trying to build a router on a flash disk |
| 17:42.01 | xoz | Overand: you can loop with background process for faster exec due to forking |
| 17:42.03 | Overand | yeah i know 'that' is useless |
| 17:42.04 | dan_ | http://gate-bunker.p6.msu.ru/~berk/router.html |
| 17:42.07 | Overand | i'm not worried about performance |
| 17:42.11 | Overand | it's only ~20 html files |
| 17:42.13 | Overand | it's my GF's old site |
| 17:42.13 | karsten | Lorvija: Should pick it up. |
| 17:42.28 | Lorvija | karsten okay |
| 17:42.28 | karsten | Lorvija: You'll have to restart X or launch from a term in which your locale is changed. |
| 17:42.29 | dan_ | like that, I started with that script, modified it to sarge, then the problems started |
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| 17:42.46 | dan_ | karsten do you know how to do this manually? |
| 17:42.50 | Lorvija | karsten okay thanks |
| 17:43.01 | stew | schneiderj: apt-get install kwifimanager |
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| 17:43.03 | karsten | dan_: Sec. |
| 17:43.11 | Raf256 | karsten: and is there a way to see with process causes too much (or most) I/O activity, not just the summary of activity? |
| 17:43.24 | karsten | dan_: Well, I wrote the chroot install docs. I'm trying to see if they're appropriate here. |
| 17:43.32 | karsten | !tell dan_ about chroot install |
| 17:43.37 | karsten | dan_: ...start with the link there, see if that's where you want to go |
| 17:43.39 | goron | drac: startx > someFile should write the output to someFile shouldn't it? |
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| 17:43.56 | biblio | hola |
| 17:44.05 | karsten | Raf256: Not easily, but top and ps may give you stuff. |
| 17:44.19 | biblio | hello |
| 17:44.23 | karsten | Lorvija: NP. LMK if it works. |
| 17:44.28 | greycat | goron: you probably want >somefile 2>&1 |
| 17:44.35 | biblio | i,m checking this computer |
| 17:44.45 | biblio | could you read me? |
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| 17:45.08 | drac | goron: Hmm, maybe 'startx | tee startx.log' ? |
| 17:45.13 | karsten | biblio: No. |
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| 17:45.27 | karsten | Feh. |
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| 17:45.45 | Mike-M | hello, I got trouble with my packages |
| 17:45.56 | karsten | !tell Mike-M about ask |
| 17:45.59 | karsten | !tell Mike-M about smart questions |
| 17:46.03 | amorphix | hi Mike |
| 17:46.15 | amorphix | i got trouble with my wife |
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| 17:46.31 | Mike-M | :) |
| 17:46.40 | asg | amorphix: that's why you get your wife packages from stable and not sid |
| 17:46.41 | Mike-M | I tried to install xorg |
| 17:46.46 | karsten | dan_: My recommendation: do the build in a chroot. chroot install should work, either my instructions or the ones in the Debian Installation Manual. Copy the built system to your flash key. |
| 17:46.49 | Mike-M | but now everything turns baaad |
| 17:46.50 | amorphix | asg lol |
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| 17:46.57 | greycat | asg: they still have open bugs, though |
| 17:47.10 | karsten | !tell Mike-M about x.org |
| 17:47.28 | asg | greycat: a few but they have less of a tendency to trash your $HOME |
| 17:47.36 | Bwl | Is there a way to remotly try a kernel -- say reboot into a new kernel and if it fails automatically go with previous kernel? |
| 17:47.37 | amorphix | Mike what did u do? install outside your dist and hosed your system? |
| 17:47.56 | Mike-M | this bot is sweet :) |
| 17:47.57 | goron | drac: Here it is: http://paste.lisp.org/display/7814 |
| 17:48.06 | mops_ | how can I create a PURE-FTP account in proftpd please? |
| 17:48.13 | mops_ | help me if you can please |
| 17:48.16 | abrotman | as oppsed to ? |
| 17:48.21 | amorphix | whats a pure ftp account |
| 17:48.36 | greycat | !l33t ftp |
| 17:48.36 | dpkg | <newbie> How do I configure my FTP server to have users that aren't in /etc/passwd? Help me, I'm too lame to set their shell to /bin/false and put /bin/false in /etc/shells!!!!! |
| 17:48.38 | mops_ | I don't want to creating account in /etc/passwd |
| 17:48.55 | FieldySnuts | !irritate mops_ |
| 17:48.56 | dpkg | mops_: HELP ME!!! how does I run teh quake3 lol |
| 17:48.58 | amorphix | damn |
| 17:49.11 | abrotman | mops_: ask #proftpd |
| 17:49.15 | dan_ | karsten thanks, just working on making it sink in now |
| 17:49.20 | karsten | Bwl: In theory, yes. 'info grub' |
| 17:49.23 | drac | goron: Ok, try removing Speedo from your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, Fontpath and module. Seems like the unresolved symbol is from it. And Speedo is totally useless anyway. |
| 17:49.32 | karsten | dan_: OK. |
| 17:49.43 | amorphix | theres a seriously strong aroma of sweaty socks wafting into my place and its not me |
| 17:49.48 | greycat | FieldySnuts: you used dpkg! and not ravenbird! |
| 17:49.49 | karsten | drac: No Speedo? Skinny-dipping? |
| 17:49.49 | mops_ | but I DON'T want to have anything in /etc/passwd |
| 17:49.56 | greycat | mops_: waaah waaah |
| 17:49.57 | mops_ | about pure-ftp user |
| 17:50.08 | greycat | mops_: so find an ftpd that does that, and then read its manual |
| 17:50.10 | goron | karsten: Is there any reason that would be bad advice? |
| 17:50.32 | mops_ | greycat: I asked about proftpd |
| 17:50.37 | Bwl | karsten: I'm running lilo, guess I'd be burned if I make the switch. (I'm over 1000km away from my server ..) ;) |
| 17:50.41 | drac | goron: Really, it isn't. I can't imagine anything you would need Speedo for, you use Adobe's Type1 and Truetype anyway only. |
| 17:50.44 | mops_ | you didn't read my question, did you? |
| 17:50.46 | FieldySnuts | proftpd can have its own seperate ftpusers file |
| 17:50.48 | karsten | goron: No, just BSing. |
| 17:51.02 | greycat | mops_: /j #proftpf |
| 17:51.03 | FieldySnuts | if you don't know how, read its docs or join the user list for it (info at their home page) |
| 17:51.03 | greycat | mops_: /j #proftpd |
| 17:51.14 | Bwl | mops_: you didn't pay for your supporting contract either .. |
| 17:51.21 | FieldySnuts | heh #proftpd is a waste, i've never gotten a question answered there (dead silence) |
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| 17:51.31 | greycat | maybe proftpd is a waste too |
| 17:51.40 | goron | drac: BRB |
| 17:51.44 | mops_ | FieldySnuts: you're right |
| 17:51.44 | greycat | I dumped it when it refused to use standard calls to get group memberships (NIS group members weren't working) |
| 17:51.45 | FieldySnuts | it can do what he wants, he just has to read its docs which there are tons of at its home page |
| 17:51.51 | karsten | Bwl: remote hands are useful. |
| 17:52.01 | karsten | Bwl: Likewise, local mirror of system for test. |
| 17:52.02 | mops_ | greycat: so what ftp daemon you advise me to use? |
| 17:52.08 | greycat | mops_: go away. |
| 17:52.31 | Bwl | I dumped proftpd when I realize there were options ... :) |
| 17:52.54 | mops_ | greycat: you're agressive |
| 17:53.18 | streuner_ | mops_: no |
| 17:53.24 | streuner_ | mops_: GO AWAY ! |
| 17:53.31 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: moron mops_ |
| 17:53.32 | ravenbird | mops_: You are moron #65 |
| 17:53.37 | karsten | greycat: attitude, dude. |
| 17:53.56 | Bwl | karsten: Very true, will take that advice into account. :) |
| 17:53.58 | mops_ | I gave only one question... |
| 17:54.09 | mops_ | so sorry, if that is the problem |
| 17:54.13 | abrotman | mops_: ask #proftpd |
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| 17:54.19 | mops_ | I did |
| 17:54.20 | abrotman | should i say it again ? |
| 17:54.27 | abrotman | and what did they say? |
| 17:54.31 | mops_ | nothing |
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| 17:54.36 | mops_ | dead silen |
| 17:54.37 | goron | drac: Exact same problem, but now obviously it doesn't complain about missing symbols. |
| 17:54.38 | mops_ | ce |
| 17:54.38 | abrotman | mops_: well . .then wait |
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| 17:54.41 | stew | mops_: do you have proftp-mysql installed? |
| 17:54.49 | abrotman | mops_: not everyone waits for your questions |
| 17:54.56 | mops_ | stew: no |
| 17:54.56 | stew | err proftpd-mysql |
| 17:55.01 | abrotman | stew: he doesnt' have to .. proftpd has a file it can use |
| 17:55.02 | mops_ | abrotman: I know |
| 17:55.05 | Mike-M | How can I change this: when using debconf or base-config, it wants to open a frontend with X, but I want it to be terminal based (ps I'm french) |
| 17:55.13 | mops_ | but I hoped that someone be so nice to help me |
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| 17:55.28 | drac | goron: That leave nothing to work with. Time for 'apt-get remove --purge xlibs xserver-common xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install x-window-system' and reinstalling the nvidia drivers to fresh X. |
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| 17:55.43 | drac | (That's what I would do.) |
| 17:55.53 | karsten | Mike-M: man debconf |
| 17:55.56 | mops_ | stew: is it possible to do it through proftpd-mysql? |
| 17:56.00 | goron | drac: That also works with non debian kernels? |
| 17:56.13 | stew | mops_: i thought you were asking about keeping ftp users in mysql |
| 17:56.18 | abrotman | mops_: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/ |
| 17:56.19 | mops_ | no |
| 17:56.20 | greycat | wouldn't it be *shitloads* easier to just do what dpkg said and put the users in passwd(5) and give them a special shell? |
| 17:56.24 | drac | goron: Yeah, it just removes X packages with depedencies and installs them right back. |
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| 17:56.33 | abrotman | mops_: there's more than enough information there |
| 17:56.39 | goron | drac: Yeah, that's what I thought too. |
| 17:56.47 | mops_ | abrotman: thanks a lot |
| 17:56.56 | abrotman | mops_: now .. go read :) |
| 17:57.20 | mops_ | I'm doing it already :) |
| 17:58.06 | Mike-M | karsten: thank you, I find the option out: --frontend=readline |
| 17:58.55 | Mike-M | but it doesn't make effect in my needs |
| 17:59.09 | NvrMind | does debian use setserial or something similiar |
| 17:59.12 | stew | Mike-M: what version of debian are you running? |
| 17:59.14 | karsten | Mike-M: IIRC 'menu' may be what you want. |
| 17:59.20 | stew | dialog? |
| 17:59.22 | amorphix | is it just me or is it extremely difficult to work today? |
| 17:59.33 | shakparl | friday |
| 17:59.34 | stew | amorphix: happy friday |
| 17:59.36 | greycat | amorphix: must be Friday |
| 17:59.36 | Mike-M | stew, I'm in with a Debian Sarge, why ? |
| 17:59.37 | amorphix | hehe |
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| 17:59.59 | stew | Mike-M: just curious, you mentioned xorg which made me wonder if you are running debian at all |
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| 18:00.03 | goron | Mike-M: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 18:00.12 | goron | Mike-M: Just tried it at my machine. |
| 18:00.18 | stew | Mike-M: you want dialog i think |
| 18:00.20 | Mike-M | stew, I find a source at apt-get.org |
| 18:00.37 | Mike-M | I'm going to look out |
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| 18:01.09 | Mike-M | I get it, thank you goron |
| 18:01.26 | paolob | Hi guys! What program do I play .mid files with in debian? |
| 18:01.44 | Mike-M | maybe I will have a bit chance to install finally what I wanted to test |
| 18:01.59 | Mike-M | paolob: what window manager do you use ? KDE ? |
| 18:02.05 | paolob | gnome |
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| 18:02.43 | `Sphere` | Hello, anybody has any recommendations on an ftp server to install ? |
| 18:02.48 | d33p | if I accidently erased a file, how can I restore it in linux? |
| 18:02.54 | Mike-M | paolob: sorry, actually I don't know names, try out to search packages with midi, i'm looking out |
| 18:03.04 | d33p | `Sphere`, proftpd |
| 18:03.05 | streuner_ | d33p: backup |
| 18:03.09 | mwelsh | wont xmms play midi? |
| 18:03.22 | stew | huh, why aren't tons of #debian regulars flooding the channel with "gnome isn't a window manager", we must be off our game slightly today :) |
| 18:03.23 | `Sphere` | d33p -> i read about it .. and it's has security issues |
| 18:03.27 | Bwl | `Sphere`: Depending on your needs, but I like the simplicity of vsftpd. |
| 18:03.40 | abrotman | stew: too tired? |
| 18:03.41 | zinx | mwelsh: i'm sure there's a third-party plugin for it somewhere |
| 18:03.44 | `Sphere` | Bwl -> I need to to support fxp & ssl |
| 18:03.48 | abrotman | stew: almost pubtime ? |
| 18:03.53 | Mike-M | paolob: rosegarden |
| 18:03.54 | stew | i wish |
| 18:03.55 | goron | stew: It's a desktop enviroment, indeed. |
| 18:03.56 | Mike-M | for instance |
| 18:04.10 | d33p | streuner_, installing, let me check |
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| 18:04.18 | stew | actually its almost bikeride time |
| 18:04.25 | streuner_ | d33p: no |
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| 18:04.46 | streuner_ | d33p: /msg dpkg unix lessons |
| 18:05.02 | streuner_ | d33p: #2 |
| 18:05.13 | goron | debconf is pretty stupid. It asks me to choose from one option. Like useless.... |
| 18:05.14 | d33p | streuner_, yo mean that if I don't backup, and I rm something... I'm screwed right? |
| 18:05.25 | streuner_ | d33p: right |
| 18:05.40 | abrotman | stew: it's too cold! |
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| 18:05.45 | stew | wimp |
| 18:05.45 | Mike-M | BIG KISSSSSSSSS it installed propelly finally :) |
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| 18:05.54 | abrotman | stew: sorry .. i'm a fairweather rider |
| 18:05.54 | Bwl | `Sphere`: Ok, I'm pretty sure ssl support is there but never heard about fxp. Check proftpd out if you want lots of features. |
| 18:06.02 | alele- | how can i forward my trafic from my eth1 network to eth0? |
| 18:06.07 | abrotman | iptables |
| 18:06.07 | d33p | streuner_, just wanted to check... damn :( |
| 18:06.09 | goron | drac: Well, time to try again. |
| 18:06.12 | abrotman | oh wait ... |
| 18:06.15 | abrotman | you mean .. a router? |
| 18:06.15 | d33p | streuner_, ciao and thanks |
| 18:06.16 | stew | abrotman: i'm too much of a hardcore addict |
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| 18:06.28 | alele- | abrotman: it´s a linux box |
| 18:06.29 | abrotman | stew: this is why i need to move south .. i love doing it .. but it's too damn cold |
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| 18:06.59 | alele- | i made a vpn but i cant ping in my eth0 network, only eth1 |
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| 18:07.19 | Bwl | alele-: You plug a network cable in eth0 that goes to eth1. |
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| 18:07.30 | Jeo | please, a user,group admin in command line |
| 18:08.06 | Jeo | not useradd, groupadd... i need something where i can add a present user to another groups for example |
| 18:08.12 | alele- | i only want that my network eth1 ping my eth0 network |
| 18:08.14 | paulswm | It gets cold down here too, we had a frost one night this winter |
| 18:08.34 | Jeo | which pkg should i install |
| 18:09.11 | abrotman | !lart paulswm |
| 18:09.15 | Jeo | ops... sorry i need to go |
| 18:09.17 | xoz | Jeo: adduser |
| 18:09.28 | abrotman | wtf was that |
| 18:09.45 | paulswm | Jeo: look at man pages for useradd, groupadd, adduser, addgroup |
| 18:09.50 | dan_ | karsten ok, still have a problem regarding an equivilent to 'deboostrap sarge' I'm getting curious that I dont see any references to debootstrap anywhere, I have the list of packages it works with, I see FAI maintioned in this install doc... |
| 18:09.55 | paulswm | !prise abrotman |
| 18:10.16 | karsten | dan_: Um. No mention of debootstrap where? |
| 18:10.27 | dan_ | in the install doc |
| 18:10.38 | abrotman | !prize paulswm |
| 18:10.42 | karsten | dan_: ...my chroot docs don't use debootstrap. Uses a base tarball image instead. |
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| 18:10.57 | Coolerdo | Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
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| 18:11.06 | Coolerdo | what kind off error is this? |
| 18:11.16 | karsten | Coolerdo: Bad news. Google it. |
| 18:11.25 | karsten | Coolerdo: On boot or after? |
| 18:11.44 | greycat | I'd say "a fatal one" |
| 18:11.45 | Coolerdo | karsten Im doing it right now.. but I guess trying it here could be faster |
| 18:11.52 | anto9us | I've just installed debian, how do I go about installing ATI drivers? |
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| 18:11.56 | Coolerdo | karsten on boot |
| 18:11.57 | greycat | tell us what you did to cause the error |
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| 18:12.31 | Coolerdo | karsten well.. on googleI found someone telling to change hda by sda on grub |
| 18:12.39 | goron | drac: Same problem. |
| 18:12.46 | karsten | Coolerdo: I'm thinking bootloader cfg issues... |
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| 18:12.49 | Bwl | greycat: Hm, is there bad kernels? |
| 18:12.51 | Coolerdo | karsten and it works.. but still could enable dma mode |
| 18:12.55 | greycat | !debian kernel image |
| 18:12.55 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who compile their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
| 18:13.01 | karsten | Coolerdo: Well, having your disks specced right helps. |
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| 18:13.04 | goron | drac: Could it be a problem that I use agpart? |
| 18:13.19 | greycat | Bwl: there are other kinds of bad kernels too. Linux 2.4.15, for example. |
| 18:13.20 | greycat | !2.4.15 |
| 18:13.20 | dpkg | http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0111.2/1677.html or filesystem corruption, DON'T USE! |
| 18:13.29 | Coolerdo | karsten its a SATA intel controller |
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| 18:13.35 | digibox | anyone know what happend to linux.google.com? |
| 18:13.49 | kooldeb | guys, under ifconfig -a, I am getting an interface eth1, which is not wireless adapter or LAN NIC, and it has a weird MACC adress. what would you guys do with it ? |
| 18:13.52 | digibox | some reason it wont load for me |
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| 18:13.57 | goron | digibox: Isn't it google.com/linux? |
| 18:14.01 | will | hey guys its me again, ok anyone know a good howot for wireless for my laptop? |
| 18:14.06 | jcole | is there a gnome clipboard manager? |
| 18:14.26 | greycat | will: depends on the chipset, I'd imagine. |
| 18:14.27 | Bwl | greycat: Heh, yea but I was just wondering what the "custom" kernels were .. I guess it's the home-baked kernels. :) |
| 18:14.31 | jcole | like klipper? |
| 18:14.32 | goron | drac: Any other idea? |
| 18:14.32 | digibox | realy? I thought it was linux.google.com........ oh well maybe my misstake |
| 18:14.34 | greycat | Bwl: right |
| 18:14.46 | NvrMind | Is there an easy way to search packages? |
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| 18:14.57 | Coolerdo | NvrMind www.apt-get.org |
| 18:15.01 | will | greycat i have |
| 18:15.11 | will | etwork controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) |
| 18:15.14 | Bwl | You learn alot from compiling your own kernel tho. |
| 18:15.18 | xoz | NvrMind: apt-cache search <keywords> |
| 18:15.19 | greycat | Broadcom!! Kill it! |
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| 18:15.22 | greycat | !fuck Broadcom |
| 18:15.30 | karsten | Coolerdo: Do you ever actually mount the rootFS? |
| 18:15.39 | Coolerdo | karsten yes |
| 18:15.39 | will | ok thats sick |
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| 18:15.42 | karsten | Coolerdo: You may need to configure an initrd. |
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| 18:15.58 | karsten | will: ObAOL on broadcom. Sucks. Get a rewal NIC. |
| 18:16.05 | karsten | will: s/rewal/real/ |
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| 18:16.15 | paulswm | will: if tha a Linksys, like a WRT54G or WRT54GS by any chance? |
| 18:16.17 | goron | Also, this ID "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes make me puge. |
| 18:16.19 | will | obAOL?? |
| 18:16.23 | jcole | looks like no "klipper" in gnome... looks like the push has been put onto xorg... http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2004/03/msg00185.html |
| 18:16.26 | karsten | will: Bad crap, unsupported, GPL violators, avoid like the plague. |
| 18:16.32 | karsten | will: "Me Too" |
| 18:16.32 | Coolerdo | karsten it is configured. Just by changing Hda to Sda it boots.. but cant enable dma |
| 18:16.34 | greycat | goron: longstanding util-linux bug, probably. |
| 18:16.39 | greycat | goron: unless you customized inittab, of course |
| 18:16.39 | jcole | *sigh* oh well |
| 18:16.41 | jetscreamer | klipper is in kde isn't it |
| 18:16.47 | will | i cant buy a new one i need to get this towork, poop |
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| 18:16.57 | jcole | jetscreamer: does klipper work in knome? |
| 18:16.57 | paulswm | karsten: works fine with ndiswrapper, I get 125MBps rated |
| 18:17.01 | jcole | lol |
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| 18:17.03 | jcole | gnome |
| 18:17.04 | jetscreamer | no idea |
| 18:17.06 | karsten | Coolerdo: SCSI doesn't do DMA IIRC. |
| 18:17.10 | will | it should work in 2.4.27 in sid then huh |
| 18:17.12 | jetscreamer | btw about the aol |
| 18:17.19 | m0p | before I ask the question, would a problem relating to compiling gcc4 be appropriate here? |
| 18:17.26 | jetscreamer | what's the problem, router won't log in? |
| 18:17.28 | goron | greycat: So this means it will annoy everyone that uses Debian for eternity? |
| 18:17.31 | miks | lp0 got deleted, how can I recreate it? |
| 18:17.31 | karsten | paulswm: They're still a scumware company. Don't support their business practices. |
| 18:17.41 | kooldeb | guys, under ifconfig -a, I am getting an interface eth1, which is not wireless adapter or LAN NIC, and it has a weird MACC adress. what would you guys do with it ? |
| 18:17.42 | paulswm | Just becuase hardware isn't natively supported in Linux doesn't mean it "sucks" |
| 18:17.47 | greycat | goron: dunno. check the bug. |
| 18:17.47 | KerPlunk | miks: reformat |
| 18:17.53 | miks | kerp ... |
| 18:18.03 | abrotman | paulswm: sucks in that instance :) |
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| 18:18.08 | will | i tried insmod b44 it didnt work, poop |
| 18:18.12 | karsten | !obaol |
| 18:18.12 | dpkg | i guess obaol is from the behavior of annoying git AOL users. "Me Too!", "Me Three!" |
| 18:18.15 | dwu | paulswm yes it does, i means linux sucks |
| 18:18.18 | will | tg3 didnt work either |
| 18:18.22 | m0p | anyone? |
| 18:18.22 | KerPlunk | !start a distro war |
| 18:18.22 | dpkg | Gentoo 0wnz! |
| 18:18.27 | Coolerdo | karsten but SATA does. or dont? I have SATA hd |
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| 18:18.35 | viperthesecond | hello |
| 18:18.40 | FarrisG | anybody know how to restore to focus a window that has been sent to Wine-Systray-land? |
| 18:18.45 | dwu | why is dpkg talking now? |
| 18:18.51 | jetscreamer | so i take it my knowing how to get a non-aol pppoe stack to log in isn't needed |
| 18:18.53 | greycat | 14:18 KerPlunk> !start a distro war |
| 18:18.54 | dwu | back in 2000 it was apt! |
| 18:19.00 | viperthesecond | debian is giving odd issue with proftpd: warning: unable to determine IP address of 'debian' |
| 18:19.01 | greycat | dwu: the times they are a-changin' |
| 18:19.02 | dwu | what happened to apt |
| 18:19.04 | karsten | Coolerdo: Not sure. 'hdparm <device>' should let you know what it can/can't do. |
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| 18:19.13 | greycat | dwu: apt is still here and responds to ~ |
| 18:19.17 | jetscreamer | ~kill somebody |
| 18:19.21 | apt | ACTION shoots a fluxphoton gun at somebody |
| 18:19.25 | goron | Well, maybe I should do a reinstall. |
| 18:19.27 | greycat | but apt's mind has been lame-ified. |
| 18:19.35 | dwu | greycat ohhhh.. the crash |
| 18:19.46 | dwu | the infamous lost of database? |
| 18:19.50 | KerPlunk | ~hello |
| 18:19.51 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 18:19.53 | dwu | ~apt sex |
| 18:19.54 | apt | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 18:20.00 | Bwl | My PII server sometimes suffer from out of (internal?) memory and dies. Is the CONFIG_OOM_KILLER a good choice for me? |
| 18:20.03 | jetscreamer | db is online and installable to any blootbot |
| 18:20.06 | greycat | dwu: please /msg the bots |
| 18:20.12 | greycat | KerPlunk: you too. |
| 18:20.19 | goron | quit |
| 18:20.27 | greycat | Bwl: adding more swap space would be good. |
| 18:20.31 | dwu | greycat okay |
| 18:20.32 | amorphix | viperthesecond: do you have a proper hostname setup? |
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| 18:20.45 | kooldeb | whats the best browser for sarge ? |
| 18:20.48 | xophEr | greycat, earlier today, when I asked why my module I installed wasnt there anymore on reboot, you answered that I didnt install it correctly. What would be the correct install-procedure? I have modprobed it and added it to /etc/modules |
| 18:20.49 | greycat | !best |
| 18:20.49 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 18:20.53 | jetscreamer | mozilla based |
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| 18:21.04 | jetscreamer | or any browser you like |
| 18:21.06 | greycat | xophEr: you WERE able to modprobe it?? Then it's installed. |
| 18:21.07 | jetscreamer | try them all |
| 18:21.12 | greycat | xophEr: I thought you said you couldn't load it. |
| 18:21.15 | jetscreamer | it's free, go for it won't hurt |
| 18:21.17 | karsten | kooldeb: Firefox. Mozilla. Galeon. Konqueror. Take your pick. |
| 18:21.27 | amorphix | kooldeb: I'm running Mozilla, Konqueror is good too |
| 18:21.31 | greycat | galeon?? *hurl* |
| 18:21.34 | karsten | kooldeb: Personally, Galeon (despite its GNOMEisms), Firefox a near second. |
| 18:21.38 | greycat | !start a browser war |
| 18:21.38 | dpkg | lynx is more secure than w3m! |
| 18:21.43 | xophEr | greycat, its still not there when I boot :) well, gonna do it again, hope it works this time |
| 18:21.55 | greycat | xophEr: define "not there". |
| 18:22.05 | karsten | Coolerdo: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4677 |
| 18:22.06 | kooldeb | amorphix: Konqeror is good but runs slow ! not sure why |
| 18:22.08 | will | guyz there must be some hope for my broadcomm wireless nic thing |
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| 18:22.18 | xophEr | well /etc/modules tries to load it, but it cant be found it says |
| 18:22.23 | Bwl | greycat: Hm, that's very true .. do you know if one can have more than one swap partition without weird stuff happening? |
| 18:22.24 | xophEr | and its not in lsmod either |
| 18:22.25 | Gumby | dpkg: who owns you |
| 18:22.26 | dpkg | dondelelcaro does |
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| 18:22.45 | jetscreamer | ff borked once, i never go back |
| 18:22.48 | kooldeb | karten: Galeon, I would have to try that one |
| 18:22.53 | greycat | will: even Theo de Raadt hasn't worked up the nerve or the energy to start petitioning Broadcom to mend its evil ways yet. They're like the Death Star of hardware vendors. You have to have a whole shitload of photon torpedos. |
| 18:23.15 | jetscreamer | who is theo de raadt |
| 18:23.20 | abrotman | jetscreamer: openbsd guy |
| 18:23.21 | greycat | !theo de raadt |
| 18:23.25 | greycat | !theo |
| 18:23.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, theo is Theo de Raadt, founder of OpenBSD. See <www.theos.com>. |
| 18:23.25 | abrotman | !theo |
| 18:23.26 | amorphix | wanna power my webserver from solar |
| 18:23.29 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 18:23.31 | xophEr | it is in /lib/modules/2.6.**/kernel/fs though |
| 18:23.33 | karsten | greycat: Wouldn't that be photon shitpedos? |
| 18:23.34 | jetscreamer | thankee |
| 18:23.49 | greycat | karsten: shitpedos don't have any effect on shit. |
| 18:23.51 | Bwl | I've always wondered why my nic on my laptop was acting weird .. hm, it's a Broadcom. |
| 18:23.56 | will | im sure someones gotten it working |
| 18:24.10 | karsten | greycat: ...well, they make it shittier. |
| 18:24.12 | greycat | will: probably by using horrible hacks like ndiswrapper |
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| 18:24.23 | greycat | will: but that's i386 only and just perpetuates the plague |
| 18:24.24 | karsten | greycat: I guess what we need then is tpdoes. |
| 18:24.39 | karsten | greycat: ...or wcpedos. |
| 18:24.47 | will | SO I CANT USE WIRELESS ON MY LAPTOP??? |
| 18:24.52 | stew | easy |
| 18:25.15 | greycat | will: don't blame us. *we* didn't buy broadcom. You did. |
| 18:25.15 | stew | will: get a prism54 card or use ndiswrapper |
| 18:25.17 | xophEr | greycat, I used a script when installing/loading the module, how do I do it manually? after the building, whats the procedure |
| 18:25.32 | rave | i can promice |
| 18:25.36 | greycat | xophEr: you *should* have been using module-assistant. |
| 18:25.39 | stew | but you can't spell |
| 18:25.40 | rave | you can use your broadcom on debian |
| 18:25.55 | abrotman | Will: you have to use ndiswrapper |
| 18:25.59 | greycat | xophEr: the MANUAL procedure (circa 1999) is to copy it into The Right Place (and you had BETTER know where that is), and then depmod -A |
| 18:26.01 | abrotman | or wait .. is it not x86 ? |
| 18:26.03 | greycat | or maybe -a. I forget now. |
| 18:26.10 | rave | thats what i mean yeah, ndiswrapper is a nice tool |
| 18:26.26 | rave | or build your own device driver |
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| 18:26.31 | abrotman | Will; is it x86 ? or ppc ? |
| 18:26.39 | karsten | will: Send your nastygrams to Broadcom and your laptop vendor. |
| 18:26.48 | NvrMind | arggg |
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| 18:27.13 | stew | rave: ndiswrapper is evil |
| 18:27.15 | greycat | rave: I wouldn't call it "nice". |
| 18:27.21 | abrotman | it is evil |
| 18:27.23 | stew | !ndiswrapper |
| 18:27.23 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is evil, because if a vendor can make users use a windows driver for their product, why should they bother writing a Linux one? Don't use it, email your hardware manufacturer and ask them for a REAL Linux driver, or choose different hardware. |
| 18:27.25 | abrotman | but .. he gets wifi that way |
| 18:27.29 | greycat | rave: ndiswrapper is like a rapist who uses a bottle of lube to make it hurt less. |
| 18:27.34 | xophEr | greycat, thanks, Ill look into the module-assistant-way |
| 18:27.51 | abrotman | greycat: as long as i'm getting some ... |
| 18:27.54 | abrotman | wait .. |
| 18:27.58 | rave | i dont agree |
| 18:27.58 | abrotman | that didn't come out right |
| 18:28.00 | greycat | !fuck abrotman |
| 18:28.04 | abrotman | heh |
| 18:28.05 | sussudio | !do abrotman |
| 18:28.12 | dwu | sussudio |
| 18:28.15 | dwu | i thought you were dead |
| 18:28.20 | rave | dont forget debians "commen sence about things" |
| 18:28.24 | greycat | he was masquerading as an aardvark for a while |
| 18:28.24 | abrotman | sense |
| 18:28.41 | rave | you cant espect every one knows everything |
| 18:28.53 | rave | not every user can code a device driver |
| 18:29.01 | dwu | rave thats not what he is saying |
| 18:29.03 | rave | debian also sayes |
| 18:29.09 | stew | rave: yeah but every hardware manufacturer should be able to |
| 18:29.10 | rave | if you need help, go get it |
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| 18:29.21 | dwu | no one is asking you to write a driver rave *no one* |
| 18:29.21 | stew | rave: expect, says. |
| 18:29.24 | Coolerdo | karsten same page that i found the solution that i told you.. changing hda to sda |
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| 18:29.47 | NvrMind | I can find a package on apt-get.org but cant figure out what to do with that since I cant find it in kpackage. I read apt-get manual but I got nothin |
| 18:29.47 | rave | no thats not what i sayed |
| 18:29.51 | stew | said |
| 18:29.53 | rave | but since not every one can |
| 18:30.02 | rave | its good to have ndiswrapper |
| 18:30.07 | stew | it's |
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| 18:30.20 | rave | if you dislike that you dont get the rules of sharing and helping out |
| 18:30.23 | abrotman | rave: no .. it isn't |
| 18:30.26 | rave | well rules |
| 18:30.33 | abrotman | broadcom is more than able to release a closed linux driver .. they don't |
| 18:30.38 | rave | i dont realy mean written rules |
| 18:30.45 | rave | ofcource |
| 18:30.48 | rave | but now what |
| 18:30.56 | abrotman | complain to HP |
| 18:31.00 | abrotman | they "support" linux |
| 18:31.04 | abrotman | they should know better |
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| 18:31.15 | rave | you want to take out the option for users to use there pcmcia card just because they lack shit ? |
| 18:31.20 | abrotman | damn fucking right |
| 18:31.41 | abrotman | !ipw2200 |
| 18:31.41 | dpkg | ipw2200 is, like, a wireless driver for certain intel wireless cards: 'apt-get install ipw2200-source', build with module-assistant. Download and install the firmware as you get told during install. For help try #ipw2100 or http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net. |
| 18:31.41 | rave | be happy there is a way to make things better |
| 18:31.41 | stew | rave: you are really misunderstanding here |
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| 18:31.41 | abrotman | i can get one of those .. and drivers to go with it |
| 18:31.44 | rave | i know what you mean stew |
| 18:31.45 | NvrMind | !ltmodem |
| 18:31.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, ltmodem is Lucent winmodem drivers: http://heby.de/ltmodem |
| 18:31.45 | dan_ | can anyone tell me where to get dpkg-source? |
| 18:31.54 | rave | you look from your open-source point of view |
| 18:31.57 | karsten | Coolerdo: OK... |
| 18:31.57 | greycat | dan_: the bot or the command? |
| 18:32.04 | karsten | dan_: In your PWD. |
| 18:32.05 | rave | and i h8 those guys for it as well |
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| 18:32.07 | dan_ | the binary |
| 18:32.13 | Coolerdo | karsten but.. thanks for your help |
| 18:32.17 | rave | thats why im happy i can use ndis with my lappy now |
| 18:32.18 | greycat | you mean dpkg-source(8)? It's in DEBIAN. |
| 18:32.18 | karsten | dan_: ...um. nevermind. |
| 18:32.18 | dwu | rave dude, are you like, 12? |
| 18:32.22 | greycat | sorry, capslock error. |
| 18:32.24 | onre | i just wonder how the regulars put up with all this cleverity presented to them day after day. |
| 18:32.27 | rave | 23 |
| 18:32.33 | dan_ | I dont know what package to get to obtain it |
| 18:32.36 | abrotman | onre: beer |
| 18:32.44 | greycat | !find dpkg-source sarge |
| 18:32.45 | abrotman | !tell dan_ about search |
| 18:32.57 | dan_ | sorta need it to pick apart debootstrap and understand things better... |
| 18:33.02 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'dpkg-source' (1): (/usr/bin/dpkg-source) in utils/dpkg-dev. |
| 18:33.16 | dan_ | thanks |
| 18:33.17 | rave | yes its bad of those guys to not suppy drivers !! so bad it disapoints me |
| 18:33.34 | greycat | it's even worse that they do not supply *documentation*. |
| 18:33.35 | rave | and yes i get you 2 at what you mean |
| 18:33.43 | abrotman | too |
| 18:33.46 | greycat | that's what the real battle is about |
| 18:34.18 | will | anyone else had problems with that marillat server?i try to update and it says too many connections from ip but i only did it once |
| 18:34.25 | greycat | will: try later. |
| 18:34.42 | stew | but i need to watch pr0n NOW! |
| 18:34.45 | stew | :) |
| 18:34.46 | will | yeah |
| 18:34.48 | will | actually |
| 18:34.50 | rave | lol |
| 18:35.00 | will | i only have an hr before my gf gets back from school |
| 18:35.01 | greycat | stew: if it's that urgent, you don't need the movie. |
| 18:35.09 | stew | there you go |
| 18:35.11 | RedGlow | uhm... just out of curiosity: is there a limit to not make dpkg bot kneel down upon a lot of "!find"s? |
| 18:35.27 | paulswm | brodacom do release a closed linux driver, there's one in the dource package for the WRT54G/GS router which runs embedded Linux and uses the same wireless chipset as the WPC%$G/GS cardbus crad, haven't tried to use it yet, though, but intend to |
| 18:35.34 | paulswm | s/dource/source/ |
| 18:35.47 | paulswm | s/%$/54/ |
| 18:36.06 | abrotman | paulswm: know the URL ? |
| 18:36.17 | paulswm | abrotman: lemme find it a sec |
| 18:36.31 | will | paulswm that sounds prty elite |
| 18:36.40 | amorphix | does anyone know of any issues with SDRAM being used on i1840 chipset boards? |
| 18:37.08 | will | it sounds like they dont want me to have it though(the driver) |
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| 18:38.17 | paulswm | abrotman: there's a link on this page: http://www.linksys.com/support/gpl.asp to this: http://www.linksys.com/support/opensourcecode/wrt54gs/3.37.6/wrt54gsv2.3.37.6.tgz |
| 18:38.21 | dan_ | hmm count debootstrap have been customized for knoppix? |
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| 18:38.26 | Vivaldi | hmm |
| 18:38.40 | dan_ | that would explain... |
| 18:38.44 | greycat | debootstrap is a count? |
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| 18:39.03 | stew | Lord Debbootstrap |
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| 18:39.18 | Vivaldi | i am searching infos about debootstrap or something similar to install a debian system from a chroot'ed environment.. |
| 18:39.27 | greycat | Vivaldi: /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 18:39.32 | Vivaldi | i kok thanks |
| 18:39.40 | Vivaldi | i forgot the helpers name |
| 18:39.46 | will | my kde taskbar crashed can i restart it somehow:( |
| 18:40.48 | greycat | Vivaldi: it's only in the /topic like 6 times... |
| 18:40.55 | greycat | probably more. I stopped counting. |
| 18:41.34 | amorphix | has anyone ever got a webserver running under Palm OS |
| 18:41.36 | paulswm | abrotman: see, people who diss linksys sometimes do not really understand: that router runs embedded Linux, the source is available and it is certainly possible to hack it if you want, say, an ssh login, or to run an ntp server, etc, whatever you want, although I think it's kind of silly to burden a router with non-router functions |
| 18:42.11 | karsten | paulswm: They've had slipups in the past, took a while to get it sorted. |
| 18:42.27 | abrotman | paulswm: i didn't diss linksys .. just broadcom :) |
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| 18:43.23 | rave | syslink also doesnt work on bebian |
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| 18:43.25 | rave | by std |
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| 18:43.42 | NvrMind | mother of love there are ten billion steps to just getting my modem to work |
| 18:44.04 | Pappa | how can i unpack an nsis installer package? |
| 18:44.10 | paulswm | karsten: I can't argue with you about that, but the automatic reponse of 'buy real hardware' is not always helpful, that box is an excellent router but to get the full prefornace you need to use the matching 'speedboosted' NICs, which means unfortunately using ndiswrapper which I agree is a pain in the ass to set up but which works fine. |
| 18:44.18 | greycat | NvrMind: then it's not a modem. |
| 18:44.21 | Pappa | it says on the home page it's packed with Zlib, bzip2 or LZMA |
| 18:44.41 | karsten | paulswm: agreed. I wasn't talking about Linksys diss in general, just their GPL compliance track record. |
| 18:44.49 | karsten | paulswm: Not perfect, but overall decent. |
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| 18:45.00 | etatoby | WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH APTITUDE!?!? IT JUST UPDATED A BUNCH OF PACKAGES I HAD ON HOLD! ON FUCKING HOLD FOR GODS SAKE!!!!! #$@#%@#$%@!!!!!! |
| 18:45.11 | greycat | !comfort etatoby |
| 18:45.12 | dpkg | There, there, etatoby. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:45.21 | karsten | paulswm: ...and if you talk with FS devs, you'll hear *lots* of names mentioned. Don Becker can tell you about Sun. |
| 18:45.30 | etatoby | grrrrrrrrrrrr on a f****** server nonetheless |
| 18:45.32 | anto9us | how do I install a downloaded deb package? |
| 18:45.39 | onre | dpkg -i <packagename> |
| 18:45.45 | onre | :D |
| 18:45.48 | pureone | lol |
| 18:45.50 | paulswm | karsten: great, I have a great deal of respect for you and was dismayed to think we might be polar opposites on this :) |
| 18:45.50 | karsten | etatoby: Read your update message before committing. |
| 18:45.51 | mwelsh | nice |
| 18:45.52 | anto9us | :) |
| 18:45.56 | shingouz | onre: doesnt that hurt? |
| 18:46.01 | karsten | etatoby: ...and test your actions prior to commits on a server. |
| 18:46.01 | pipeline | karsten, paulswm: Given that linksys is an embedded hardware vendor, I don't blame them for their fit of GPL non-compliance. |
| 18:46.06 | onre | shingouz, after a couple of times you get used to iw |
| 18:46.09 | onre | s/iw/it/ |
| 18:46.14 | pipeline | karsten, paulswm: It wasn't plainly obvious that shipping an embedded linux was "distribution" |
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| 18:46.22 | karsten | etatoby: ...aptitude is _generally_ better than apt-get, but has its problems. See bug# 299009. |
| 18:46.24 | greycat | pipeline: *blink* |
| 18:46.33 | etatoby | karsten: thanks, but I thought HOLD meant something while it clearly DOESN'T MEAN SHIT |
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| 18:47.01 | amorphix | I'm looking for a PDA OS which I can run a webserver on, any suggestions? |
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| 18:47.08 | etatoby | you're right on the testing part though! >bash< |
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| 18:47.27 | karsten | paulswm: Linksys is decent embedded kit. For a 95% solution it's great. There's times I'd prefer either a dedicated PC or a router. The market heads for the cheap, general solution though. |
| 18:47.35 | paulswm | pipeline: linksys, I think, ought to take the opportunity and become, reluctantly, maybe, the Linux hacker's hardware of choice, in the same way that AMD became to overclocker's choice, depite their half hearted efforts to prevent it :) |
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| 18:47.51 | xophEr | greycat, m-a is only for modules available through apt, or? I cant find a way to install my module from source with it.. |
| 18:47.58 | greycat | xophEr: *shrug* |
| 18:48.03 | karsten | etatoby: You're complianing to a sypmathizer. File a bug. Detail as much as you possibly can. Get package state via 'dpkg --get-selections', and include relevant logs from /var/log/aptitude |
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| 18:48.16 | greycat | xophEr: if all else fails, copy it into the proper place under /lib/modules/$(uname -r) and run depmod -a |
| 18:48.26 | stew | etatoby: see if you can reproduce it |
| 18:48.33 | karsten | etatoby: There's some really serious fuckwittage both with aptitude *and* its developer, but the tool in general has its benefits. |
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| 18:48.34 | deadcat | xophEr: what module you trying to comopile? |
| 18:48.44 | greycat | xophEr: don't forget you'll have to rebuild this module *every* *time* *you* *change* *kernel* |
| 18:48.53 | paulswm | karsten: I agree, for a home network it's great, but in a corp with $mil to spend, I would sure get fancier toys :) |
| 18:48.53 | cooly | hi. does anyone else have problems with apache2 on debian woody/testing? it is running normally but at time to time it caused somthing that you cannot connect to it any more, when you connect to it (ex. with browser or telnet and send it get it is just waiting and waiting till timeout). when i restart daemon then it run again normally |
| 18:48.54 | xophEr | deadcat, ufsd |
| 18:49.09 | etatoby | karsten, stew: ok, will do |
| 18:49.13 | paulswm | !kill apache2 |
| 18:49.14 | will | waht the hell kplayer just stoppd working for my mpegs for no reason |
| 18:49.20 | xophEr | so there's no way of making it a .deb? |
| 18:49.27 | karsten | paulswm: Hell of a lot of offices running Linksys router/switches. |
| 18:49.27 | xophEr | that would be cool and painless :) |
| 18:49.42 | fabietto | Hi at all. I'm trying to modify my kde menu through kmenuedit, but i'm not able to save the new configuration file (/home/my_username/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu)... should i insert my user into any specific group? |
| 18:49.45 | paulswm | karsten: no doubt |
| 18:50.34 | paulswm | I installed apache2, took a look at the configs and docs, and retreated, bewildered, to apach1 "P |
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| 18:50.52 | karsten | paulswm: There *is* no retreat. |
| 18:50.56 | xophEr | well now its compiled, and I ran depmod -a, lets see how long it works |
| 18:51.02 | karsten | paulswm: ...there is only "advancing toward the rear". |
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| 18:51.46 | karsten | etatoby: Anyhow, high-quality bug reports on aptitude are _highly_ appreciated, and I _do_ feel your pain. |
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| 18:53.02 | xophEr | greycat, if I add this to kernel-source, will it then compile a kernel with built-in support for this? |
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| 18:53.27 | greycat | if it's a separate module, you *can't* "add it to kernel-source" |
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| 18:53.48 | greycat | it's not like there's a directory inside the kernel tree that says "drop all your random code here and I'll make it a module" |
| 18:54.01 | xophEr | hehe |
| 18:54.03 | xophEr | ok |
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| 18:54.54 | Livingroom | hello |
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| 18:55.29 | Livingroom | i want to install a fresh installation of debian, completely new. i've done this before but that was a while ago and i dont know if things have changed- what must i do/read to make a debian install now? |
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| 18:55.52 | asg | Livingroom: /msg dpkg d-i |
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| 18:56.23 | Livingroom | that's a start |
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| 18:56.41 | thandavarayan | Livingroom: what was your previous installation |
| 18:57.05 | thandavarayan | Livingroom: I mean which branch of debian |
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| 18:57.20 | Livingroom | woody, i think. |
| 18:57.36 | Livingroom | which i upgraded to sarge as soon as i installed it |
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| 18:57.58 | thandavarayan | okay, what do you want to do now. |
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| 18:58.08 | asg | i wanna rock |
| 18:58.10 | thandavarayan | Livingroom: Install the sarge from scratch |
| 18:58.20 | will_ | my laptop touchpad owrks fine in x with the 2.4 kernel using the ps/aux setting but not in 2.6 anyone know what gives |
| 18:58.33 | will_ | x will start but the mouse wont move or click |
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| 18:58.44 | xoz | will_: modprobe psmouse |
| 18:58.46 | asg | will_: modprobe mousedev psmouse |
| 18:59.10 | Livingroom | where do i want to go today? well, i want a l33t working installation of the latest debian with 0% hassle |
| 18:59.32 | greycat | !d-i Livingroom |
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| 18:59.33 | dpkg | Livingroom, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 18:59.42 | asg | !pubtime |
| 18:59.42 | dpkg | methinks pubtime is time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
| 18:59.45 | will_ | XOZ Holy crap it worked |
| 18:59.47 | will_ | thanx man |
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| 18:59.56 | will_ | will that start automatically if i reboot? |
| 19:00.05 | thandavarayan | will_: do you know why? |
| 19:00.07 | tdela | i've edited my sources.list, how do i upgrade to sarge |
| 19:00.25 | vezult_ | tdela: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 19:00.53 | tdela | excellent, thanks, what version of X does sarge repo? |
| 19:00.56 | thandavarayan | will_: you actually got the drivers, by using modprobe |
| 19:01.05 | xoz | will_: place them in /etc/modules |
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| 19:01.09 | vezult_ | tdela: 4.3 |
| 19:01.16 | viperthefirst | http://pastebin.com/277655 |
| 19:01.17 | tdela | Ok, does that support radeon 9800 pro? |
| 19:01.23 | tdela | vezult_* |
| 19:01.23 | thandavarayan | tdela: XFree86 4.3 |
| 19:01.27 | viperthefirst | please help with the paste at that url > http://pastebin.com/277655 |
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| 19:01.47 | vezult_ | tdela: i don't know |
| 19:02.02 | tdela | Okay vezult_, thanks for the tips. |
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| 19:02.07 | etatoby | karsten: what's the backstory on aptitude anyway? what about the fuckwittage? |
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| 19:02.19 | NvrMind | in "2.4.27-2-386" What is the -2- represent? |
| 19:02.20 | vezult_ | tdela: probably does...i just dont know first hand |
| 19:02.36 | abrotman | NvrMind: second revision |
| 19:02.41 | abrotman | kind of |
| 19:02.51 | abrotman | err .. actually third |
| 19:02.57 | tdela | vezult_ Okay. |
| 19:02.57 | NvrMind | hmm, will a package from 1 work with |
| 19:03.00 | NvrMind | 2 |
| 19:03.05 | abrotman | huh? |
| 19:03.13 | will_ | ugh, nothing seems to work wiht the 2.6 kernel |
| 19:03.19 | viperthefirst | anyone? |
| 19:03.24 | karsten | etatoby: It behaves differently in CLI/Interactive modes. It doesn't respect dselect settings (eg: dpkg --set-selections < list), and occasionally decides it wants to upgrade or remove a bunch of stuff you *really* wanted on your system. |
| 19:03.29 | thandavarayan | will_: what again? |
| 19:03.48 | kooldeb | will_ I think thats such a vague statement |
| 19:03.51 | thandavarayan | will_: did you restarted the machine |
| 19:03.52 | will_ | kde is stalling at the initializing system services |
| 19:03.53 | KerPlunk | Whenever I start firefox it freezes, and only the edges show and the whole app turns white in the middle |
| 19:03.59 | KerPlunk | I don't have _any_ plugins installed. |
| 19:04.00 | karsten | etatoby: on the plus side, it logs everything, is mostly cli-compliant with apt-get, and has some really nice features in interactive mode for searching / limiting packages. |
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| 19:04.06 | NvrMind | ltmodem-2.4.27-1-386_8.31a8_i386.deb will that work with my 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 19:04.08 | valdyn | NvrMind: that number indicates the kernel source revision, so you cant mix -1 and -2 binaries |
| 19:04.23 | NvrMind | poop |
| 19:04.26 | abrotman | NvrMind: more than likely .. that will fail |
| 19:04.27 | v120t | where download sarge ? |
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| 19:04.32 | abrotman | !d-i v120t |
| 19:04.33 | dpkg | v120t, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:05.03 | Livingroom | will this D-I netinst make me choose packages and not tell me wtf they are so that i just really have no freaking clue what i'm doing, or will it just put stuff in that most people use? |
| 19:05.03 | thandavarayan | v120t: its more then 14 cds |
| 19:05.08 | viperthefirst | in nano how do i copy everything |
| 19:05.16 | thandavarayan | v120t: I suggest for net-install |
| 19:05.16 | v120t | thank you |
| 19:05.29 | thandavarayan | viperthefirst: discuss with nano channel. |
| 19:05.31 | valdyn | Livingroom: it will not put much at all, unless you pick things |
| 19:05.32 | kooldeb | guys, under ifconfig -a, I am getting an interface eth1, which is not wireless adapter or LAN NIC, and it has a weird MACC adress. what would you suggest ? |
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| 19:06.11 | valdyn | Livingroom: how dont have to "pick things" in tasksel, if you choose not to trust it.. |
| 19:06.19 | valdyn | Livingroom: you dont have to "pick things" in tasksel, if you choose not to trust it.. |
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| 19:07.44 | valdyn | kooldeb: I suggest you are wrong. |
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| 19:08.09 | etatoby | karsten: right, it's more or less the same complaints and appreciation I have about it |
| 19:08.11 | kooldeb | valdyn: I would be glad to hear what you have to say |
| 19:08.30 | abrotman | kooldeb: why don't you paste the output somewhere(not here) |
| 19:08.33 | v120t | thandavarayan, don't say install (net-install) |
| 19:08.47 | abrotman | v120t: the 105MB Netinst ISO |
| 19:08.55 | etatoby | karsten: will see about toying with dselect's settings (eg. HOLD! @#$@#!!) and filing some bug reports |
| 19:09.01 | valdyn | kooldeb: not more than i said already.. w/o more info i sure cant say more |
| 19:09.07 | karsten | etatoby: The logging for me is a massive win. It also sanely handles a few other bits. And once you've more-or-less committed to using it, it tends to eff-up less. It's the transition period that really bogs. |
| 19:09.19 | thandavarayan | v120t: I can't get you |
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| 19:09.46 | karsten | etatoby: The developer's also made some *really* lame comments about dependencies / package resolution being hard. |
| 19:09.46 | thandavarayan | v120t: Ofcourse, you have broadband connection, that will be greate |
| 19:10.01 | phanter | I want to tunnel a Xwin prog via ssh. I connect via: ssh -X -l patrick <ip> It does not work, what do i do wrong? |
| 19:10.10 | karsten | etatoby: ...which makes me wonder WTF he's doing it twice, in totally different ways (interactive/cli), if it's so damned hard. |
| 19:10.11 | kooldeb | valdyn: can I paste you the output of my ifconfig ? |
| 19:10.18 | abrotman | kooldeb: use pastebin.ca |
| 19:10.20 | v120t | i do not cd-rw :( |
| 19:10.25 | valdyn | !tell kooldeb about paste |
| 19:10.30 | karsten | phanter: ssh -vX. Will give debug output. |
| 19:10.45 | karsten | phanter: ...you need X11 tunelling enabled remote side. It's off by default in Debian. |
| 19:10.46 | valdyn | phanter: you need to enable X forwarding on the server too |
| 19:10.48 | xoz | phanter: make sure sshd_config forwards X |
| 19:10.50 | kooldeb | valdyn: I meant in private, come on now. |
| 19:10.58 | karsten | !tell kooldeb about paster |
| 19:11.01 | v120t | yes, i have broadband |
| 19:11.06 | abrotman | kooldeb: i'd be interested also .. that's why i asked |
| 19:11.21 | thandavarayan | v120t: then net-install is very cool stuff. |
| 19:11.24 | abrotman | v120t: you have no CDR or CDRW drive ? |
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| 19:11.34 | valdyn | kooldeb: private is pointless, and you would ripp yourself off 800 potential helpers, and i would be obligate to respond |
| 19:11.38 | lawnchair | nigger |
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| 19:11.48 | abrotman | are you stupid? |
| 19:12.09 | kooldeb | ok I will paste it under #flood |
| 19:12.15 | lawnchair | abrotman, i'd appreciate if you didnt say that word...thanks |
| 19:12.17 | karsten | !ops lawnchair |
| 19:12.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: lawnchair |
| 19:12.22 | thandavarayan | v120t: rather then scanning 14 cds in a row and installing the stuff. If you do this then that will get the f+++ out from you. |
| 19:12.27 | abrotman | lawnchair: you did .. dumbass |
| 19:12.39 | lawnchair | abrotman, you dont ahve to get defensive, just watch your mouth, thanks |
| 19:12.46 | helix | what the |
| 19:12.50 | abrotman | i have no idea |
| 19:12.56 | onre | abrotman, given your earlier answer, how much beer per hour does it require to actively contribute this channel without going berserk? |
| 19:12.56 | thandavarayan | v120t: even for net-install, you need to burn an image, of size 120Mb |
| 19:12.58 | vezult_ | um...can you say troll? |
| 19:13.03 | onre | +to |
| 19:13.07 | abrotman | onre: 6pack :) |
| 19:13.11 | onre | abrotman, i see :) |
| 19:13.13 | thandavarayan | v120t: for base installation, rest you can pull through the net. |
| 19:13.15 | helix | lawnchair: uh, stop |
| 19:13.23 | helix | abrotman: you too |
| 19:13.29 | abrotman | i didn't do anything? |
| 19:13.38 | abrotman | he just said it .. i don't think i provoked him |
| 19:13.39 | lawnchair | abrotman, listen to helix...he's tryin to help you out |
| 19:13.39 | v120t | i do not have cdr |
| 19:13.55 | abrotman | erm .. yes. . i'm confused |
| 19:13.57 | helix | abrotman: I know, just don't exacerbate the situation |
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| 19:14.02 | thandavarayan | v120t: you can bother your friend to do that. |
| 19:14.03 | helix | lawnchair: if you troll anymore, I will ban you |
| 19:14.05 | abrotman | but hey .. it's not the first time :) |
| 19:14.06 | helix | or |
| 19:14.06 | helix | ok |
| 19:14.14 | helix | LoRez can take care of it, I guess |
| 19:14.24 | abrotman | he was polite earlier |
| 19:14.38 | LoRez | helix: thanks :) |
| 19:14.42 | abrotman | i have no idea where that came from ... |
| 19:14.49 | helix | abrotman: it was totally random |
| 19:14.51 | abrotman | v120t: it is possible with floppies |
| 19:14.54 | helix | that's why I didn't ban him |
| 19:15.03 | abrotman | helix: but he seemed to imply i did something to cause him to say that |
| 19:15.05 | abrotman | i have no idea |
| 19:15.07 | v120t | okay |
| 19:15.15 | abrotman | v120t: or USB drives |
| 19:15.22 | helix | yes, it was weird |
| 19:15.39 | thandavarayan | v120t: yes, I forget to mention, you can also get the usb-image |
| 19:15.41 | karsten | helix: abrotman: I see no provocation. |
| 19:15.43 | paulswm | Very odd, maybe he typed in the wrong window |
| 19:15.47 | abrotman | perhaps |
| 19:15.59 | abrotman | paulswm: only channel he's in currently |
| 19:16.01 | xoz | yep, it just came out of the blue |
| 19:16.25 | LoRez | all I've got is people sniggering other than the gnna. |
| 19:16.48 | paulswm | Terett's syndrome only on a keyboard |
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| 19:17.04 | karsten | paulswm: Bingo. |
| 19:17.05 | kooldeb | ok what the error ethx: unknown hardware address type 776 or 24 means ? |
| 19:17.30 | karsten | kooldeb: GIYF. |
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| 19:17.35 | karsten | !tell kooldeb about GIYF. |
| 19:17.43 | v120t | only cd1 not install ? |
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| 19:18.21 | thandavarayan | v120t: what do you meant by cd1 |
| 19:18.43 | abrotman | v120t: you can install sarge with floppies |
| 19:19.00 | deadcat | is ibookg3 a POWER3 in menuconfig? |
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| 19:19.09 | abrotman | deadcat: #debianppc might know |
| 19:19.22 | deadcat | abrotman: aint no body there. )= |
| 19:19.26 | deadcat | but let me try |
| 19:19.44 | shingouz | deadcat: it should be a power3 afaik |
| 19:20.07 | deadcat | shingouz: oh. what about the 6xx/7xx/74xx/... thing? |
| 19:20.11 | abrotman | deadcat: noone ? |
| 19:20.22 | shingouz | deadcat: powerbooks too? |
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| 19:20.38 | deadcat | abrotman: ya i got it (= |
| 19:20.46 | deadcat | shingouz: they say the POWER3 is ibm stuff |
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| 19:21.20 | shingouz | deadcat: hmm..... in that case it should be somethign with the raw mode number of the cpu i guess |
| 19:21.30 | frse | How would I go about mounting an OpenBSD partition under Debian? |
| 19:21.31 | shingouz | s/mode/model |
| 19:22.14 | phanter | hmm, how can i remotely restart the ssh server? |
| 19:22.29 | airox | phanter: /etc/init.d/ssh restart ? |
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| 19:22.31 | vezult_ | phanter: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 19:22.32 | frse | oops |
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| 19:22.44 | phanter | oke, but I am logged in via ssh |
| 19:22.50 | airox | phanter: It won't harm your current login. |
| 19:22.51 | vezult_ | phanter: should be ok |
| 19:22.54 | frse | How would I go about mounting an OpenBSD partition under Debian? |
| 19:23.05 | frse | (sorry if i just said that, irssi died) |
| 19:23.13 | NvrMind | dear god I must be retarded, how can I run a shell script from a terminal without pathing it |
| 19:23.31 | airox | NvrMind: ? |
| 19:23.40 | airox | You mean: sh script.sh ? |
| 19:23.46 | kooldeb | valdyn and abrotman: ok I pasted ifconfig -a under #flood. Thanks for any feedback. |
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| 19:24.06 | frse | fdisk says the type is 'OpenBSD' but mount says that OpenBSD is not a supported FS? |
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| 19:24.18 | phanter | I get this: debian:/etc/init.d# sshd restart; Extra argument restart. |
| 19:24.20 | xoz | NvrMind: chmod +x <script>, ./<script> |
| 19:24.25 | phanter | and it is not rstarted |
| 19:24.33 | vezult_ | frse: you've gotta have a kernel that supports ufs |
| 19:24.50 | NvrMind | mother of god, sh scanmodem worked |
| 19:25.01 | frse | vezult_: So, what, recompile kernel with UFS support? |
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| 19:25.20 | airox | phanter: Wasn't it ssh instead of sshd ? |
| 19:25.32 | vezult_ | frse: yeah, or load the appropriate module if it's already compiled |
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| 19:25.50 | abrotman | kooldeb: i don't see what the problem is |
| 19:26.09 | frse | vezult_: Ah, ok thanks! |
| 19:26.12 | kooldeb | abrotman: whats eth2 all about >? |
| 19:26.22 | thandavarayan | frse: check out what file system does openbsd uses, and mount the openbsd volume with that fs |
| 19:26.28 | vezult_ | frse: might need to compile in support for other partition types. the BSDs do partitioning diff than linux |
| 19:26.30 | phanter | airox: ssh restart; ssh: restart: Name or service not known |
| 19:26.41 | airox | phanter: Tr |
| 19:26.44 | airox | errr |
| 19:26.46 | abrotman | kooldeb: do you have it in your interfaces file ? |
| 19:26.49 | airox | phanter: Try: ./ssh restart |
| 19:26.56 | thandavarayan | frse: in fdisk you can list the supported filesystem |
| 19:26.59 | airox | Not: ssh restart |
| 19:27.12 | phanter | stupid of me ... damn i knew that |
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| 19:27.48 | shimano55 | Question, I just installed Debian, and I'm trying to get the ndiswrapper module up and running so that I can connect to my wifi router. I downloaded ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils through apt. When I look in /usr/src, I see the ndiswrapper-source file, but I don't now how to get the module working from there... Whenever I type in modprobe ndiswrapper, it just says that modprobe couldn't find the moudle. How can I get this wo |
| 19:27.48 | shimano55 | rking? |
| 19:28.27 | airox | shimano55: Doesn't it come with a INSTALL or README file ? |
| 19:28.34 | Levander | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.37 | phanter | oke nice, I changed the config file of ssh to allow Xwin forwarding, but i still get the message: ** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display |
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| 19:28.55 | xoz | phanter: restart sshd |
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| 19:29.02 | airox | Levander: netstat |
| 19:29.05 | phanter | xoz: how do I do that? |
| 19:29.07 | thandavarayan | Levander: use top command in command prompt |
| 19:29.11 | xoz | phanter: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 19:29.13 | kooldeb | abrotman: nope, thats the thing. maybe its the 1394 ? |
| 19:29.21 | abrotman | kooldeb: possible |
| 19:29.24 | phanter | xoz: I did that after I changed the configs |
| 19:29.38 | shimano55 | airox, no, becuase I got it through apt |
| 19:29.56 | kooldeb | abrotman: ok is there a way to map or compare the MAC address to specific devices somehow? |
| 19:30.02 | Levander | airox: i'm looking at netstat's output, how do I locate the process using the network from that output? |
| 19:30.21 | airox | shimano55: There should be some documentation on ndiswrapper.sf.net I guess. |
| 19:30.23 | Levander | thandavarayan: same question for top |
| 19:30.28 | abrotman | kooldeb: not that i'm aware .. ethtool maybe ? |
| 19:30.30 | xoz | phanter: when you connect by ssh the xclient is running as root or ordinary user? |
| 19:30.37 | airox | Levander: netstat | less |
| 19:30.53 | airox | You have to check which things are ESTABLISHED |
| 19:30.58 | airox | Which connections that is. |
| 19:31.23 | xoz | phanter: the ssh you should restart is the one located on the server you are connecting |
| 19:31.39 | phanter | xoz: i restarted the one on my server |
| 19:31.57 | xoz | phanter: not the remote? |
| 19:32.17 | phanter | xoz: the server is the remote |
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| 19:32.34 | Levander | airox: it looks like i'm accessing some sight appservers.gemplers. - rest of test doesn't fit in column |
| 19:32.46 | valdyn | phanter: which file on your server did you edit? |
| 19:33.12 | Levander | oh wait, think i found it, think it was a cron process, damn |
| 19:33.15 | xoz | phanter: try ssh -v -X remote |
| 19:33.19 | shimano55 | airox, nevermind...I used module-assistant and got it working, thanks for the help though |
| 19:33.21 | airox | Levander: hehe. |
| 19:33.30 | Levander | gotta log out of irc so I can see if network status goes to zero |
| 19:33.35 | Levander | thanks for your help airox! |
| 19:33.40 | airox | shimano55: No problem. Don't expect much from ndiswrapper I guess. |
| 19:33.47 | airox | Levander: np. |
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| 19:33.58 | airox | Levander: Good luck! :) |
| 19:34.13 | phanter | xoz: /etc/ssh/ssh_config (I changed two lines conserning ssh X forwarding) |
| 19:34.15 | shimano55 | airox, I know, but I don't have the money to buy a linux-compatible wirless card right now... |
| 19:34.44 | airox | shimano55: Well, same over here ;) |
| 19:34.47 | valdyn | phanter: that is youyr problem, /etc/ssh/ssh_config is false to configure your server |
| 19:34.55 | valdyn | phanter: try /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 19:35.33 | shimano55 | airox, hehe |
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| 19:35.40 | xoz | phanter: yep. and make sure sshd_config of remote forwards X also |
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| 19:36.10 | xoz | phanter: then use ordinary user.. not root and login to remote |
| 19:36.57 | phanter | xoz: thanks a lot. I did this many times before, but I went wrong by editting the wrong config file!!! Sometimes I am very dumb. Thanks for your help |
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| 19:37.31 | xoz | phanter: you might also configure agent forwarding... read the docs. |
| 19:37.38 | dns21 | could anybody recommend a decent ftp frontend? |
| 19:37.54 | zeeble | ncftp |
| 19:37.56 | zeeble | or GUI? |
| 19:37.57 | tarzeau | dns21: lftp |
| 19:37.59 | valdyn | dns21: like a gui? |
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| 19:38.04 | tarzeau | for gui: Waiho.app |
| 19:38.04 | dns21 | yeah |
| 19:38.11 | zeeble | gftp |
| 19:38.21 | dns21 | I use that now |
| 19:38.23 | valdyn | dns21: your favourite file manager likely supports ftp |
| 19:38.24 | zeeble | tarzeau: you still working on your gnustep desktop? |
| 19:38.30 | dns21 | hmm.... |
| 19:38.36 | tarzeau | zeeble: sure |
| 19:38.37 | valdyn | dns21: konquere, nautilus, mc, whatever |
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| 19:38.42 | zeeble | tarzeau: heh, ok. |
| 19:38.43 | valdyn | dns21: konqueror, nautilus, mc, whatever |
| 19:38.46 | tarzeau | zeeble: didn't you want to do translations? |
| 19:38.54 | zeeble | tarzeau: nope :p never. |
| 19:38.58 | tarzeau | zeeble: it's the most advanced, free software desktop |
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| 19:39.15 | zeeble | tarzeau: :) which i use too. |
| 19:39.31 | zeeble | and xfce |
| 19:39.31 | tarzeau | zeeble: then you should be in #gnustep and learn Objective-C |
| 19:39.46 | ircdevil | tarzeau: did you get that multi-installer testet? |
| 19:39.47 | zeeble | tarzeau: i wish -.- |
| 19:39.56 | tarzeau | ircdevil: Installer.app or what? |
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| 19:41.11 | dns21 | xffm doesn't seem to have one... |
| 19:41.36 | ircdevil | tarzeau: some widget to install debian on 100+ machines |
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| 19:41.57 | zeeble | there's a widget for that? |
| 19:41.59 | tarzeau | ircdevil: freshmeat.net/projects/dphys? |
| 19:42.25 | KerPlunk | !tell zeeble about widget |
| 19:42.32 | Nolius | hello, i have a question : my fontes became too big when a swtich from kdm to gdm, why? |
| 19:42.35 | shimano55 | Question, Is there a GUI on Debian where you can manage your network connection options? |
| 19:42.40 | valdyn | dns21: gftp |
| 19:42.44 | shimano55 | Question, Is there a GUI on Debian where you can manage your network connection options? |
| 19:42.56 | thandavarayan | Nolius: How big? |
| 19:42.59 | dns21 | valdyn: I use that now, not very happy |
| 19:43.07 | streuner_ | shimano55: DHCP? |
| 19:43.07 | KerPlunk | !repeat |
| 19:43.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, repeat is if nobody answers your question, don't just repeat it. Spamming the channel and getting ignored/banned/silenced isn't going to get a faster answer; spamming is a function of time. More likely, nobody knows the answer (/msg dpkg ask), or you need to provide more information (/msg apt sicco), or ask about "smart questions", or for more information, ask me about <repeat> |
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| 19:43.12 | ircdevil | tarzeau: yup |
| 19:43.20 | Nolius | i dont know but very big |
| 19:43.23 | zeeble | shimano55: not really. some are bundled with specific distributions. |
| 19:43.30 | xoz | Nolius: change fonts either in kde or gnome.. or change DPI first and adjust both. |
| 19:43.30 | tarzeau | ircdevil: we only run it for i386 |
| 19:43.33 | zeeble | shimano55: rather desktop environments |
| 19:43.45 | dns21 | valdyn: It is the best I have found but I'm still not happy with it |
| 19:43.47 | thandavarayan | Nolius: where you get the bigger fonts, |
| 19:43.49 | tarzeau | ircdevil: it can be used from 1+ .. n machines |
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| 19:43.56 | shimano55 | zeeble, than how can I figure out if I'm ocnnected to the network? |
| 19:43.59 | Nolius | what is DPI? |
| 19:44.08 | thandavarayan | Nolius: I mean after entering into a desktop through gdm or at gdm itself |
| 19:44.14 | tarzeau | !dpi |
| 19:44.14 | dpkg | somebody said dpi was your Dots Per Inch setting, which affects the size of your fonts. Remove any explicit DPI settings in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc or your display manager's configuration file, and X should autodetect your DPI. If not, add DisplaySize Width_in_milimeters Height_in_millimeters to Section "Monitor" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. |
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| 19:44.16 | ircdevil | tarzeau: awesome |
| 19:44.18 | shingouz | shimano55: ifconfig, iwconfig and ping |
| 19:44.21 | zeeble | shimano55: open a console, type ifconfig -a |
| 19:44.25 | Nolius | in qt and gtk software |
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| 19:44.35 | xoz | !dpi |
| 19:44.35 | dpkg | rumour has it, dpi is your Dots Per Inch setting, which affects the size of your fonts. Remove any explicit DPI settings in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc or your display manager's configuration file, and X should autodetect your DPI. If not, add DisplaySize Width_in_milimeters Height_in_millimeters to Section "Monitor" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. |
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| 19:44.59 | tarzeau | Nolius: you must be kidding |
| 19:45.01 | streuner_ | shingouz: in debian you use interfaces |
| 19:45.34 | shingouz | streuner_: yes but those are useful to get the basic information and to check if you are connected in the first place |
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| 19:45.49 | zeeble | well, ping a local IP. |
| 19:45.53 | shimano55 | Question, Does anyone know what the network manager on GNOME is called, becuase that's the DE I'm using...and there was one of the Fedora Gnome |
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| 19:46.07 | zeeble | if you can ping an IP, go over and ping a URL, if that does'nt work, you fix your DNS |
| 19:46.09 | zeeble | and so on |
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| 19:46.16 | valdyn | !info gnome-system-tools |
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| 19:46.20 | dpkg | gnome-system-tools: (Cross-platform configuration utilities for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 2146 kB, Installed size: 7104 kB |
| 19:46.22 | valdyn | shimano55: ^^^ |
| 19:46.34 | valdyn | shimano55: its in sarge too |
| 19:46.36 | thandavarayan | Nolius: what was the necessasity to change kdm to gdm |
| 19:46.47 | greycat | version 1.0.0-1 ? |
| 19:46.48 | streuner_ | shimano55: why do you even care? |
| 19:46.49 | greycat | that's a bit scary |
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| 19:47.00 | seldon | How do I ask for an op? I have a spambot to kick. |
| 19:47.03 | streuner_ | <shimano55> airox, I know, but I don't have the money to buy a linux-compatible wirless card right now... |
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| 19:47.09 | shimano55 | steuner_, becuase I need to configure my wifi |
| 19:47.11 | shingouz | shimano55: if you used to have such a thingie on redhat/gnome i suspect the same app is on debian/gnome too if it is really a gnome app. if it was/is/used to be redhat... well. |
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| 19:47.33 | kastytis | need help with debian |
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| 19:47.42 | valdyn | !info gnome-system-tools sarge |
| 19:47.46 | thandavarayan | kastytis: put your question |
| 19:47.48 | dpkg | gnome-system-tools: (Cross-platform configuration utilities for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.0-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 2146 kB, Installed size: 7104 kB |
| 19:47.48 | Nolius | thandavarayan, cause i'am programming in gtk |
| 19:47.54 | kastytis | sorry my english so bad |
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| 19:48.15 | shingouz | shimano55: check the ifconfig first to see if you have an ip from the dhcp. ifconfig -a in a terminal as root |
| 19:48.22 | streuner_ | kastytis: what's you native language? |
| 19:48.26 | kastytis | need shange shmod /xxx/xxx |
| 19:48.27 | thandavarayan | Nolius: it doesn't matter which display manager you use, you can still program with gtk |
| 19:48.31 | kastytis | lithuania |
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| 19:48.34 | kastytis | russia |
| 19:48.40 | greycat | !russian |
| 19:48.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, russian is Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 19:48.50 | dns21 | shingouz: is -a actually neccessary? |
| 19:48.55 | greycat | dns21: yes. |
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| 19:48.58 | dns21 | shingouz: because I never use it |
| 19:49.04 | shingouz | dns21: not really but everyone likes to use it for some reason |
| 19:49.07 | greycat | without -a it omits unconfigured interfaces |
| 19:49.12 | shingouz | ah |
| 19:49.15 | greycat | shingouz: man ifconfig |
| 19:49.19 | shingouz | :) |
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| 19:49.34 | greycat | it's also mandatory on some other OSes |
| 19:49.37 | greycat | even for configured ones |
| 19:49.38 | dns21 | that is probably why I don't use it |
| 19:49.40 | seldon | Oh, ok. I see now it quit on its own. |
| 19:49.42 | kastytis | but shmod --help not find answer |
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| 19:49.46 | Nolius | thandavarayan, it's true but i what to use gtk and gnome |
| 19:49.53 | shingouz | kastytis: chmod, not shmod |
| 19:49.56 | greycat | and then there's primitive crap like hp-ux 10 where you *can't* get them all. you have to ask for each one separately. |
| 19:50.01 | kastytis | sorry |
| 19:50.06 | shingouz | :) |
| 19:50.31 | kastytis | needed shange atributes for all files and katalogues |
| 19:50.33 | greycat | !wikifaq kastytis Permissions |
| 19:50.33 | dpkg | kastytis: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 19:50.40 | shimano55 | shingouz, I don't see an IP...no |
| 19:50.42 | thandavarayan | Nolius: yeah, you can log into gnome or kde either by using gdm or kdm |
| 19:50.43 | shingouz | kastytis: also: man chmod |
| 19:50.56 | shingouz | shimano55: is the network encrypted? |
| 19:51.06 | kastytis | thanks for all |
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| 19:51.31 | shimano55 | shingouz, no |
| 19:51.36 | Nolius | it's true, it's juste a choice |
| 19:51.53 | mh_le | hmm it seems I gota get a new soundcard |
| 19:52.05 | shingouz | shimano55: check iwconfig to see if the nic is on the correct essid |
| 19:52.38 | thandavarayan | Nolius: But I never got that problem |
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| 19:53.10 | shimano55 | shinouz, It has link quality of 3/100 and signal level 5/154 : \ |
| 19:53.17 | dns21 | can a decent shell script be made for ftp or are there timing issues? |
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| 19:53.36 | Manneh|Hemlock | hi |
| 19:53.42 | stouset | What's the easiest way to turn off tap-to-click on a synaptics touchpad? |
| 19:53.55 | greycat | dns21: try scp, lftp, wget, webDAV, etc. |
| 19:54.09 | greycat | even ncftp might be ok |
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| 19:54.14 | dns21 | wget has ftp? |
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| 19:54.17 | shimano55 | brb |
| 19:54.19 | greycat | ANYTHING is better than trying to script /usr/bin/ftp |
| 19:54.29 | Manneh|Hemlock | how to update glibc via apt-get from an unstable source. my hl2 server seems to need a newer glibc :/ |
| 19:54.30 | shingouz | shimano55: if you have a dhcp server on the netowork you shoudl have a dhcp client on your computer too. if you do not have it you have to assign the ip manually with ifconfig or /etc/network/interfaces and ifup |
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| 19:54.35 | dns21 | hahaha, thanks greycat |
| 19:54.38 | greycat | Manneh|Hemlock: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 19:54.41 | dns21 | I would have tried |
| 19:54.56 | xoz | dns21: and rsync, sftp |
| 19:55.13 | Starfire | hey guys, im commin off a fresh install of debian sarge, and it asks me to install desktop envirnments... web serer... its that box where it asks to check off packages to install... well i selected nothing and its installing, and now i want to install the KDE GUI, i didnt select the desktop envirnment package cause i knew it would install gnome, but i want kde. when its done installing all this stuff i wanna be able to do that. what comman |
| 19:55.13 | Starfire | ds do i need to run... cause i did this before and after i rebooted it said welcome to your new debian system again. so i dont want that to happen again and i want my KDE GUI.... anyone wanna help me out here =| |
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| 19:55.51 | valdyn | Sarocet: apt-get install x-window-system kde ( and maybe kdm ) |
| 19:56.00 | valdyn | Starfire: apt-get install x-window-system kde ( and maybe kdm ) |
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| 19:56.08 | Starfire | x_x wow im stupid thanks valdyn |
| 19:56.13 | Manneh|Hemlock | thx greycat, but do i have to update the whole distro? i just need glibc updatet |
| 19:56.27 | greycat | Manneh|Hemlock: yes, you do |
| 19:56.29 | dns21 | xoz: and these are good programs to throw a script together with? |
| 19:56.33 | `Sphere` | anybody knows where the kde header files are located ? |
| 19:56.40 | greycat | trying to live in a half-woody half-sarge state will bite you sooner or later |
| 19:56.44 | Manneh|Hemlock | hmmm....i updatet glibc only on my last debian |
| 19:56.52 | Manneh|Hemlock | worked fine |
| 19:57.05 | xoz | dns21: depends on your needs |
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| 19:57.37 | daffy-pkf | did anyone of you noticed that some guys come on #debian just to spam anybody that enter the room? |
| 19:57.50 | daffy-pkf | i regularly receive spams in private |
| 19:57.51 | Manneh|Hemlock | greycat |
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| 19:58.10 | Manneh|Hemlock | do i need to physically reboot the server afterwards? |
| 19:58.17 | greycat | Manneh|Hemlock: no |
| 19:58.22 | Manneh|Hemlock | phew |
| 19:58.27 | Manneh|Hemlock | thx man :) |
| 19:58.28 | LoRez | daffy-pkf: it happens. if you tell freenode staff, they'll get klined |
| 19:58.46 | Nolius | thanks, good by! |
| 19:58.50 | dns21 | xos, I have three domains with diff hosting and logins.... |
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| 19:58.54 | daffy-pkf | LoRez> well, i'll do that... for the moment the guy is flooded ^^ |
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| 19:59.36 | dns21 | and school is almost over... I need to keep busy |
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| 20:00.41 | dan_ | karsten thanks, it seems that there are local debootstrap scirpt files on the knoppix machine I'm using to create my router install that dont jive well with debian packages, knowing this I'v made some adjustments to debootstrap (using this handy sledgehammer...) |
| 20:01.16 | karsten | dan_: OK. |
| 20:01.27 | pen123 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:03.52 | shimano55 | shingouz, Well...it doesn't work with the cable unplugged : \ |
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| 20:04.28 | shingouz | shimano55: were you able to ping anything? with pure ip's that is? |
| 20:04.30 | mfrisch | Is there a asterisk channel? |
| 20:04.42 | shimano55 | shingouz, How would I do that? |
| 20:04.46 | greycat | pen123: why didn't you just use awk -W interactive like it said in faq9? |
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| 20:05.08 | shingouz | shimano55: ping 123.234.345.456 and to get out of the ping ctrl+c |
| 20:05.24 | shingouz | of course you should check man ping ;) |
| 20:05.51 | dns21 | this is true, then you don't have to use ctrl+c |
| 20:06.02 | adker | mfrisch: Yes, #asterisk |
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| 20:06.07 | shimano55 | shingouz, ping: unknown host 123.234.345.456 |
| 20:06.16 | mfrisch | adker you grok asterisk? |
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| 20:06.23 | dns21 | shimano55: try ping -c 1 google.com |
| 20:06.29 | Overand | OK, I'm still having no luck using sed to convert this pile of HTML files with absolute links into html files with relative links |
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| 20:06.40 | jhave | If i copy my debian install from one disk to another disk how do i make the MBR ? |
| 20:06.42 | shingouz | shimano55: you have to use th eip of your router to begin with of course |
| 20:06.55 | greycat | jhave: reinstall the boot loader |
| 20:07.04 | shimano55 | dns21, ping: bad number of packets to transmit. |
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| 20:07.17 | adker | mfrisch: nope |
| 20:07.22 | jhave | greycat, lilo ? |
| 20:07.35 | dns21 | shimano55: odd... |
| 20:07.39 | mfrisch | adker thanks :)~ |
| 20:07.39 | shimano55 | shinouz, ok..i pinged "192.etc." |
| 20:07.45 | Starfire | is there a way to reset or re-enter the root password? |
| 20:08.08 | Overand | actually, i think i got it (re: sed) |
| 20:08.18 | thandavarayan | Starfire: yeah passwd |
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| 20:08.27 | Starfire | awesome is that just the command? |
| 20:08.31 | Starfire | how do i enter it lol |
| 20:08.32 | shimano55 | dns21, ping google.com works |
| 20:08.54 | thandavarayan | Starfire: log into su |
| 20:09.01 | dns21 | shimano55: but ' -c 1 ' didn't work????? |
| 20:09.01 | thandavarayan | Starfire: type that command |
| 20:09.06 | ddaniels | Hi, how can I check if sarge's 2.4.27-2 kernel image has the 2.4.29 isofs patch? |
| 20:09.07 | Starfire | very cool thanks alot |
| 20:09.09 | Starfire | brb |
| 20:09.10 | shingouz | shimano55: ok. now try to do that with pure wireless. unplug the cable that is and insert the wireless |
| 20:09.30 | abrotman | ddaniels: check the changelog at packages.debian.org |
| 20:09.40 | dns21 | shingouz: I have never had a wireless card set up to work that way... |
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| 20:10.07 | dns21 | shingouz: should/is that (be) normal? |
| 20:10.17 | Starfire | not working... |
| 20:10.22 | shingouz | dns21: what you mean? |
| 20:10.35 | thandavarayan | Starfire: what does it says |
| 20:10.36 | shimano55 | shingouz, didn't work |
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| 20:10.41 | Starfire | it says login incorrect |
| 20:11.01 | shingouz | shimano55: i guess the wireless is not working yet then. hm.. |
| 20:11.07 | dns21 | shingouz: well, I have never been able to just 'insert my wireless card' and be ready to rock.... |
| 20:11.21 | thandavarayan | Starfire: type su, and give the root password first |
| 20:11.26 | rave | its this a pcmcia case ? |
| 20:11.27 | shingouz | dns21: what wlan you use then |
| 20:11.28 | dns21 | shimano55: did you say that you had knoppix? |
| 20:11.29 | Starfire | the new one? |
| 20:11.35 | thandavarayan | Starfire: and then passwd |
| 20:11.50 | shingouz | dns21: sarge installed yesterday. |
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| 20:11.50 | pen123 | I couldnt get that to work with this longer program I am doing. |
| 20:12.03 | dns21 | shingouz: ndiswrapper... is that what you meant? |
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| 20:12.06 | Starfire | in the same command line, or su > passwd > newpass or su > passwd newpass |
| 20:12.09 | bgat | anyone know why I can't do IDE DMA with an A7V600 mobo? |
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| 20:12.25 | shimano55 | dns21, no...what is that> |
| 20:12.26 | shimano55 | ? |
| 20:12.35 | thandavarayan | Starfire: su > old pass word > enter. |
| 20:12.43 | Starfire | i dont know the old password lol |
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| 20:12.49 | thandavarayan | Starfire: now passwd --> passwd is a command |
| 20:12.51 | shingouz | dns21: he is using ndiswrapper so that might be a problem. if you know how to set up ndiswrapper properly, please help him as i have no clue about it really |
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| 20:13.04 | Starfire | my brother entered it wrong when i was installing, and i need to change it... |
| 20:13.05 | thandavarayan | Starfire: unlucky |
| 20:13.08 | Starfire | yea i know |
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| 20:13.15 | jhave | how do i start debian whit the rescue disk ? |
| 20:13.22 | Starfire | he doesnt remember it hes a dipshit :( |
| 20:13.23 | zoid | what's the website that has all old versions of websites from years ago? |
| 20:13.31 | ryan` | archive.org |
| 20:13.33 | thandavarayan | Starfire: just do the base-install |
| 20:13.36 | bgat | zoid: web.archive.org |
| 20:13.39 | Starfire | god damn it lol |
| 20:13.42 | zoid | thanks! |
| 20:13.49 | Starfire | that would be.... what command >_< |
| 20:13.57 | dns21 | shingouz: I can try, but having installed it and configured it roughly 5-6 times, it still takes me at least 1 hour.... |
| 20:14.03 | shingouz | jhave: <kernelname> root=/dev/address/to/root/partition |
| 20:14.06 | thandavarayan | Starfire: things will work, I guess, god even for that you need su |
| 20:14.06 | ryan` | Starfire: you can use a bootdisk, mount your root partion, chroot to it, and run passwd. |
| 20:14.21 | ludi | I just installed xfce (apt-get install xfce). How do I make it appear in the gdm list? |
| 20:14.46 | dns21 | shimano55: which version of ndiswrapper do you have? |
| 20:14.46 | dns21 | shimano55: and have you checked out the wiki? |
| 20:14.46 | thandavarayan | Starfire: yeap, that will do... |
| 20:14.47 | Overand | ok, what's a decent command-line (preferably curses) ftp client *other* than MC that I can use to pull down a pile of files (ala get *.*) |
| 20:14.53 | Starfire | ryan`, i cant because everything is on one partition @_@ |
| 20:14.55 | jhave | shingouz, kernel root? |
| 20:15.01 | bgat | anyone know why I can't do IDE DMA with an A7V600 mobo? |
| 20:15.02 | jmob | Anyone good with lprng printcaps? I need to filter postscript through gs without disturbing any existing filter, and I can't figure out how. |
| 20:15.06 | jhave | shingouz, kernel root=/dev/hda1 ? |
| 20:15.16 | bgat | hdparm -d1 /dev/hda |
| 20:15.26 | bgat | /dev/hda: |
| 20:15.26 | bgat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.26 | bgat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.26 | bgat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.27 | bgat | m |
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| 20:15.42 | dns21 | ...another one bites the dust |
| 20:15.48 | Starfire | poor bastard... |
| 20:15.49 | jhave | bgat, me ? |
| 20:15.58 | shimano55 | dns21, ndiswrapper-1.1 |
| 20:16.07 | shingouz | jhave: basically yes. woody likes "rescue24 root=/dev/hda1" so you have to know what kernel you should use and the proper place of / |
| 20:16.09 | jmob | The current printcap is listed here http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/481 |
| 20:16.15 | bgat | jhave: what? |
| 20:16.21 | thandavarayan | Starfire: got it |
| 20:16.44 | dns21 | shimano55: what is the result of dmesg | grep ndiswrapper or wlan0 |
| 20:16.44 | streuner_ | hm |
| 20:16.47 | dns21 | shimano55: try both |
| 20:17.00 | ludi | I just installed xfce (apt-get install xfce). How do I make it appear in the gdm list? |
| 20:17.02 | jhave | and so "apt-get remove lilo" |
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| 20:17.17 | jhave | apt-get install lilo |
| 20:17.30 | greycat | !tell Starfire about I forgot root's password |
| 20:17.52 | Starfire | thanks greycat ill try that..... |
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| 20:18.35 | davis | greycat: hello |
| 20:18.37 | jmob | printcaps suck btw |
| 20:18.53 | Overand | Come on... an FTP client that I can use to pull down a directory full of files, other than MC? |
| 20:19.04 | greycat | Overand: ftp |
| 20:19.04 | jmob | Overand: lftp or ncftp |
| 20:19.06 | davis | Overand: scp |
| 20:19.06 | greycat | Overand: lftp |
| 20:19.09 | dns21 | gftp |
| 20:19.12 | greycat | davis: that's not an ftp client |
| 20:19.17 | dns21 | your right |
| 20:19.19 | Overand | yeah scp is not an option |
| 20:19.22 | davis | yah i know |
| 20:19.23 | dns21 | my bad |
| 20:19.39 | davis | but it allows for remote file gets of entire directories. |
| 20:19.41 | Overand | i should never have volunteered to move this angelfire site off of angelfire, heh |
| 20:19.43 | Nazgob | I wanna mount my ntfs partitions but fdisk -l don't work, any ideas? |
| 20:19.44 | Overand | yeah, scp is great |
| 20:19.51 | Overand | too bad i can't SSH IN TO ANGELFIRE. ha |
| 20:19.53 | shimano55 | dns21, they give me information on ndiswrapper drivers and the hardware name and config |
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| 20:20.03 | Rydekull | davis: though he asked for a ftp-client |
| 20:20.04 | davis | greycat: so how you doing today? |
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| 20:20.25 | dns21 | what is the result of ndiswrapper -l |
| 20:20.27 | davis | Rydekull: yeap. |
| 20:20.39 | ludi | I just installed xfce (apt-get install xfce). How do I make it appear in the gdm list? |
| 20:20.43 | shingouz | speaking of lost root password, wouldn't booting "linux single", "passwd", "sync" (just in case), "reboot" or "shutdown -r now" be ok too? |
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| 20:20.59 | Nazgob | I wanna mount my ntfs partitions but fdisk -l don't work, any ideas? |
| 20:20.59 | greycat | Overand: for god's sake. seriously. "ftp foo" "username" "password" "bin" "cd /blah" "bin" "bin" (never forget bin) "prompt" "mget *" |
| 20:21.15 | shimano55 | dns21, "Installed ndis drivers: |
| 20:21.15 | shimano55 | net5211 driver present, hardware present |
| 20:21.15 | shimano55 | " |
| 20:21.59 | dns21 | shimano55: did it mention the driver? |
| 20:21.59 | thandavarayan | Nazgob: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda* /mnt/xxx |
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| 20:22.04 | shimano55 | dns21, in dmesg | etc....yes |
| 20:22.07 | thandavarayan | Nazgob: do it under root |
| 20:22.19 | Nazgob | hmm i try that |
| 20:22.30 | thandavarayan | Nazgob: then |
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| 20:22.44 | dns21 | does your wireless have wep enabled? |
| 20:22.45 | Nazgob | but i don\t know what to mount couse fdisk don't show anything |
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| 20:23.20 | thandavarayan | Nazgob: strange.... |
| 20:23.22 | dns21 | Nazgob: you don't have /mnt/hda[whichever]? |
| 20:23.49 | Overand | greycat: mget specifically suggests, in the manpage, that it should not be used for transferring a directory full of files |
| 20:24.00 | Nazgob | i can quess that there is propably hda1 or sth like that |
| 20:24.03 | pen123 | Where in the scripts is the network card configured? |
| 20:24.15 | Nazgob | but i would like to see the fdisk result :) |
| 20:24.19 | eX-aCx | hello guys im trying to wget a file but it isnt showing up ne where but it shows it downlaoded.. ne reasons why |
| 20:24.22 | shingouz | etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:24.24 | greycat | Overand: why did they write that? |
| 20:24.27 | Overand | no idea. |
| 20:24.31 | greycat | never mind. don't answer. it's GNU/Linux. |
| 20:24.43 | bgat | does anyone know why an av7600 motherboard won't do IDE DMA? |
| 20:24.52 | bgat | er, a7v600 |
| 20:25.00 | Nazgob | can i see my disks in some file instead of using fdisk? |
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| 20:25.08 | Overand | either way, the chewing me out for not knowing some ftp commands is a little silly. I don't run an ftpd, so being an expert at spartan FTP clients is really not something I find usefull |
| 20:25.11 | greycat | mget isn't good for transferring a *hierarchy* of files, but for a *directory* it's just dandy. |
| 20:25.12 | thandavarayan | Nazgob: which file is that |
| 20:25.25 | kezzlock | hi |
| 20:25.33 | dns21 | shimano55: are you using wep encryption by any chance? |
| 20:25.46 | shimano55 | no |
| 20:25.53 | shimano55 | in iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 20:26.11 | shimano55 | on my network it says Encryption key:off |
| 20:26.19 | Nazgob | thats my question :) I am not sure where to look for it, maybe in /proc? |
| 20:26.22 | dns21 | and you can see your network? |
| 20:26.25 | Overand | ah, greycat |
| 20:26.26 | Overand | yes |
| 20:26.28 | Overand | i just re-read the manpage |
| 20:26.45 | eX-aCx | I would like to got a file, i try with wget and links, i see the download progress, but the file its not on my home directory i download from my home, but i did a find.. what the prob |
| 20:26.47 | Overand | and you're right, i cede you this victory |
| 20:26.51 | Overand | doesn't it make you feel good? |
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| 20:27.20 | dns21 | shimano55: have you restarted your computer without the network cable plugged in? |
| 20:27.20 | shingouz | shimano55: if you have to use a wep key under windows you have to do the same under linux too. the settings are all the same |
| 20:27.22 | greycat | !win greycat |
| 20:27.23 | pen123 | What code calls /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 20:27.25 | dpkg | Congratulations, greycat! You have won the US presidency! |
| 20:27.41 | greycat | pen123: ifup |
| 20:27.44 | shingouz | pen123: ifup/ifdown |
| 20:27.50 | dns21 | shingouz: iwlist didn't return one.... |
| 20:28.02 | thandavarayan | Nazgob: try under /proc/partitions |
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| 20:28.29 | thandavarayan | Nazgob: err /proc/monts |
| 20:28.43 | thandavarayan | Nazgob: err /proc/mounts |
| 20:28.43 | pen123 | How come when I run apt-get remove dhcp-client Debian no longer configures the network card? |
| 20:29.00 | Overand | pen123: does it not configure the network card, or does it not get an IP ddress? |
| 20:29.09 | shingouz | pen123: because you need to have a dhcp client to even get the dhcp information of course |
| 20:29.12 | pen123 | Only loopback device |
| 20:29.22 | Overand | so ifconfig only shows lo |
| 20:29.27 | dns21 | shingouz: unless he sets it up as static |
| 20:29.27 | Overand | but ifconfig -a ? |
| 20:29.30 | pen123 | right |
| 20:29.36 | pen123 | And no routing tables |
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| 20:29.56 | dbron | pen123: auto eth0 is prolly gone |
| 20:30.05 | shingouz | pen123: you either have a dhcp client to be able to access the dhcp information or set up the network statically. your choice |
| 20:30.06 | Overand | yeah, edit your interfaces crap |
| 20:30.14 | pen123 | So what calls all that? |
| 20:30.15 | Rydekull | pen123: http://nmglug.org/tutorials_os.html |
| 20:30.22 | shimano55 | dns21, In iwlist it says that the quality is 0/100..coukd that be it? |
| 20:30.23 | Overand | nano/vi/emacs/whatever /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 20:30.50 | Overand | if you want an example of a static IP setting, i'll hand you one |
| 20:30.50 | dns21 | shimano55: well, it isn't a good sign... hmm.... |
| 20:31.04 | pen123 | So what does apt-get remove dhcp-client do to start up code for network card? |
| 20:31.11 | dns21 | shimano55: do you have wep encryption in windows? |
| 20:31.21 | shimano55 | no |
| 20:31.26 | Rydekull | pen123: just read the link I gave you, it deals with /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:31.50 | shimano55 | dns21, Wait...does the Debian Sarge Base system come with a firewall? |
| 20:32.10 | dns21 | doubt it, if it does it probably isn't configured |
| 20:32.25 | shingouz | pen123: is it so hard to get that if you do not have a dhcp client the network will not be automagically configured to whatever the dhcp server tells |
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| 20:32.42 | shimano55 | dns21, Well in the ndiswrapper instructions it says that I need to tell my firewall to let the signal through |
| 20:32.49 | dns21 | shimano55: I have installed sarge but I don't remember having a firewall |
| 20:32.53 | shimano55 | ok |
| 20:33.05 | shingouz | shimano55: the firewall is usually off unless you tell it to be up |
| 20:33.19 | shimano55 | shinouz, ok |
| 20:33.28 | shingouz | i think the firewall is not installed in the first place either... |
| 20:33.34 | shimano55 | shingouz, dns21: I don't know what to do then... |
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| 20:33.35 | dns21 | shingouz: or unless it starts up at boot |
| 20:33.40 | dns21 | shingouz: you are probably right |
| 20:33.59 | dns21 | shimano55: did you pass any commands to ifconfig or iwconfig yet? |
| 20:34.01 | pen123 | How come I lose the route command after apt-get remove dhcp-client? |
| 20:34.07 | shimano55 | dns21, ya |
| 20:34.15 | shimano55 | dns21, I set the essid |
| 20:34.17 | greycat | !listvals it huts |
| 20:34.19 | greycat | !listvals it hurts |
| 20:34.19 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'it huts' by value returned no results. |
| 20:34.21 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'it hurts' by value (2): CMD: doctor (.*?) ;; do you feel violated. |
| 20:34.27 | greycat | !doctor pen123 |
| 20:34.28 | dpkg | pen123 goes to the doctor, says "Doctor, when i do this, it hurts!" - Doctor: "Then stop doing it, pen123!" |
| 20:34.32 | shimano55 | dns21, and ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 20:34.35 | dns21 | shimano55: also, after you did that, did you restart your computer without the ethernet |
| 20:34.41 | dbron | heh |
| 20:34.41 | dns21 | shimano55: you need more than that |
| 20:34.41 | shimano55 | no |
| 20:34.54 | shingouz | shimano55: can you get all the information to connect with windows on that network? dhcp/static ip, wep key etc? the network has to be set up with the same values as you have to do under doze |
| 20:35.12 | shimano55 | dns21, What do I need? It said I did...but wouldn't tell me which commands |
| 20:35.17 | dns21 | shimano55: do the following IN ORDER |
| 20:35.18 | shingouz | shimano55: dhcp on the network? |
| 20:35.24 | pen123 | So what do I do to get things going trying to use a static IP address. Do I do apt-get remove dhcp-client? |
| 20:35.25 | shimano55 | dns21, ok |
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| 20:35.26 | dns21 | ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 20:35.37 | shimano55 | ok |
| 20:35.42 | dns21 | wait... thinking.... |
| 20:35.49 | dns21 | scratch that |
| 20:35.54 | shimano55 | ok... |
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| 20:36.09 | shingouz | pen123: you do not need to remove the client. /etc/network/interfaces is the place you hack the settings. man interfaces for more information |
| 20:36.15 | dns21 | ifconfig 192.0.0.(your local ip) |
| 20:36.19 | dns21 | ifconfig wlan0 up |
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| 20:36.31 | dns21 | iwconfig wlan0 essid [essid] |
| 20:36.34 | silver_cpu | hello again, everybody |
| 20:36.41 | shingouz | ifconfig <interface> <address> netmask <netmask> up |
| 20:36.42 | dns21 | iwconfig wlan0 channel [channel probably 6] |
| 20:36.53 | shimano55 | wait |
| 20:36.59 | shingouz | i'll shut up :) |
| 20:37.08 | shimano55 | dns21, on first command it said "192.0.0.1: error fetching interface information: Device not found" |
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| 20:37.11 | dns21 | shingouz: is right, you do want the interface... |
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| 20:37.22 | silver_cpu | anyone here have any luck getting DMA to work on modern intel chipsets? i can't seem to get mine enabled |
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| 20:37.26 | dns21 | my bad.... 192.168.0.2 |
| 20:37.36 | dns21 | 192.168.0.1 is going to be your router |
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| 20:37.47 | dan_ | how can I get a list of all the installed packages on a system? |
| 20:37.51 | dns21 | shimano55: im going to start over.... |
| 20:37.53 | greycat | silver_cpu: which kernel, which chipset, and what module(s) did you try to load? |
| 20:37.57 | shingouz | ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up <--- example, change the values as needed |
| 20:38.04 | phanter | hello, i installed egroupware, but i cannot find the dir in /var/www/ |
| 20:38.11 | dan_ | without reading through all of /var/dpkg/status |
| 20:38.14 | shimano55 | dns21, again..error fetching interface |
| 20:38.18 | silver_cpu | greycat, i'm running 2.6.11-1-686, hold on for the chipset |
| 20:38.33 | dns21 | hmm... |
| 20:38.40 | silver_cpu | intel 82801 (ich6) |
| 20:38.43 | shingouz | iwconfig eth0 essid some-stoopid-networkname <--- another example |
| 20:38.53 | greycat | silver_cpu: did "modprobe piix" work/help? |
| 20:38.58 | silver_cpu | the sata drive is working great |
| 20:39.00 | shimano55 | shingouz, shouldn't I be doing wlan0? |
| 20:39.03 | dns21 | shingouz: eth0 probably won't work.... |
| 20:39.05 | shingouz | iwconfig eth0 key 1223344556 <--- another example |
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| 20:39.18 | shingouz | shimano55: as i said, change the values whre needed |
| 20:39.34 | jhave | i can´t start my old disk but how do i install lilo on my new disk |
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| 20:39.39 | ruskel | Somebody can pass me an DNS Server IP? |
| 20:39.41 | jhave | -´t |
| 20:39.41 | silver_cpu | greycat, no i'm afraid that it still tells me that the operation isn't permitted |
| 20:39.45 | shingouz | you should start with the essid, go on to the key and then set up the address |
| 20:39.58 | dns21 | shingouz: that you did... |
| 20:40.02 | pen123 | How come after hacking the settings in /etc/network/interfaces and then running apt-get remove dhcp-client, my network card does not get configured on reboot? |
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| 20:40.15 | greycat | 16:38 greycat> a.root-servers.net has address 198.41.0.4 |
| 20:40.16 | silver_cpu | besides, i'm pretty sure that it has to load that module to operate my sata hdd |
| 20:40.17 | greycat | 16:39 ruskel> dosent work |
| 20:40.25 | dns21 | shingouz: from my experience, wlan0 needs to be configured with ifconfig prior to configuring iwconfig |
| 20:40.28 | shingouz | pen123: where did you get the idea you have to remove the dhcp client in the first place |
| 20:40.29 | dbron | pen123: you have go to be kidding |
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| 20:40.46 | pen123 | Why do I need it if I am using a static address? |
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| 20:40.53 | verbose | where can i find the debian repository? |
| 20:40.58 | shingouz | pen123: why do you need to remove it |
| 20:41.03 | shimano55 | dns21, wait did you mean ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.2? |
| 20:41.07 | greycat | verbose: run apt-setup |
| 20:41.07 | shimano55 | cause that works |
| 20:41.08 | greycat | !d-i verbose |
| 20:41.09 | dpkg | verbose, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 20:41.11 | dns21 | shimano55: yes |
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| 20:41.17 | shimano55 | ok |
| 20:41.17 | shimano55 | next |
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| 20:41.19 | pen123 | OK but why do I need it? |
| 20:41.23 | dns21 | now wait... |
| 20:41.23 | shingouz | shimano55: yes, put "up" to the end |
| 20:41.32 | dns21 | no wait |
| 20:41.35 | shingouz | pen123: jfc... |
| 20:41.39 | dns21 | what do you see with ifconfig |
| 20:41.45 | shimano55 | got it |
| 20:41.52 | greycat | pen123: we have yet to see evidence that you actually *do* have a static IP. |
| 20:41.54 | dns21 | it should add netmask and gateway.... |
| 20:42.01 | shingouz | pen123: hack the settings into interfaces and run ifup eth0, you shoudl be set. forget about the dhcp client |
| 20:42.04 | dns21 | and if it does, we are in good shape |
| 20:42.13 | verbose | dpkg: i'm going to be using woody |
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| 20:42.26 | greycat | verbose: same thing anyway. run apt-setup. |
| 20:42.34 | dns21 | shimano55: got what? where are we at? |
| 20:42.37 | pen123 | Right now I am behind a switch |
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| 20:42.48 | greycat | well get out of there! |
| 20:42.49 | shimano55 | it just says inet addr: 192.168.0.2 |
| 20:42.52 | shingouz | pen123: irrelevant |
| 20:42.54 | greycat | what are you doing hiding behind a switch? |
| 20:43.01 | verbose | is there any way to view the repository in a browser considering i haven't installed debian yet? |
| 20:43.02 | pen123 | So I guess I can just change it to static IP and use switch as gateway? |
| 20:43.04 | Manneh|Hemlock | he is hiding ^^ |
| 20:43.06 | dns21 | shimano55: no gateway or netmask? |
| 20:43.10 | Manneh|Hemlock | greycat |
| 20:43.11 | shimano55 | dns21, I have only done the first command "ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.2 up" |
| 20:43.11 | greycat | pen123: no sense make you. |
| 20:43.15 | kooldeb | gosh dont you hate when you call customer service and they tell you we dont support Linux |
| 20:43.24 | shingouz | pen123: how the hell would we know, we know nothing of th etopography of the network you are on |
| 20:43.27 | dbron | BOO!, pen123 jumps out from behind the switch |
| 20:43.27 | dns21 | shimano55: that is fine, run "ifconfig" and tell me what you see |
| 20:43.29 | kooldeb | I am trying to get my wireless card replaced by some other one |
| 20:43.32 | greycat | you seem to have confused a 'switch' with something else. |
| 20:43.33 | pen123 | We have several computers here hiding behind a switch. |
| 20:43.36 | Manneh|Hemlock | can you tell me at least one apt source for sarge? |
| 20:43.37 | greycat | pen123: wrong. |
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| 20:43.40 | dbron | I love that game |
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| 20:43.46 | shingouz | pen123: some switch then, has to be big |
| 20:43.50 | verbose | when i said i was using woody i was actually talking the user that posted the link |
| 20:44.05 | dns21 | kooldeb: customer service can't even support windows |
| 20:44.13 | pen123 | Linksys blue box DSL switch |
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| 20:44.24 | greycat | pen123: what's your IP address? |
| 20:44.31 | dbron | pen123: do you have and auto eth0 or whatever your interface is called in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 20:44.36 | shingouz | verbose: dpkg is a bot... |
| 20:44.58 | streuner | Manneh|Hemlock: apt-setup |
| 20:45.03 | kooldeb | dns21: ya, I have the ipw2200 in my laptop and its not yet supported by many applications if not most under Debian. |
| 20:45.09 | Manneh|Hemlock | streuner |
| 20:45.10 | pen123 | auto eth0 is there |
| 20:45.19 | streuner | Manneh |
| 20:45.19 | verbose | ok thanks |
| 20:45.29 | pen123 | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 20:45.31 | dns21 | kooldeb: what is the ipw2200? |
| 20:45.34 | greycat | !pal pen123 |
| 20:45.42 | verbose | so does anyone know if i can vieiw the repository? |
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| 20:45.49 | greycat | verbose: man apt-cache |
| 20:46.00 | pen123 | addrress 192.168.1.22 |
| 20:46.02 | dbron | iface eth0 inet dhcp won't work well without the dhcp client package |
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| 20:46.06 | greycat | pen123: you're behind a *NAT*. |
| 20:46.07 | gahan | does debian run on sparc? |
| 20:46.09 | kooldeb | dns21: well it refered to the intel Pro wireless card which comes with the Dell laptop |
| 20:46.11 | verbose | i've been reading the Linux Cookbook and i read about apt-cache |
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| 20:46.14 | greycat | pen123: the fact that it's *also* acting as a switch is not relevant. |
| 20:46.17 | shingouz | gahan: afaik, yes |
| 20:46.17 | kooldeb | gahan: I dount it |
| 20:46.27 | verbose | i'd just like a link though |
| 20:46.30 | greycat | !tell pen123 about man interfaces |
| 20:46.35 | pen123 | But I want a static address and have dynamic one. |
| 20:46.38 | dns21 | kooldeb: does it have a dell sticker on it or something? |
| 20:46.48 | will | whats that wrapper thing that works around broadcom again? |
| 20:46.51 | kooldeb | dns21: well I just want some other card |
| 20:46.57 | dns21 | will: ndiswrapper |
| 20:46.58 | shingouz | !tell kooldeb about ipw2100 |
| 20:47.01 | will | thx |
| 20:47.01 | greycat | pen123: then YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE REMOVED THE DHCP CLIENT, eh? |
| 20:47.02 | dns21 | kooldeb: orinoco |
| 20:47.09 | valdyn | kooldeb: ipw2200 should work just fine |
| 20:47.09 | greycat | hey, let's play stupid! |
| 20:47.16 | shimano55 | dns21, I see Link encap, HWaddr, inet addr, BCast, Mask, UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST, MTU, Metric, RXPackets, errors, drops, overruns, frame, TXPackets, carrier, collisions, txquenelen, RX Bytes, TxBytes, Memory, and Interrupt |
| 20:47.24 | greycat | I want to talk in #debian *and* talk in another channel! So I'll /part #debian! |
| 20:47.43 | dns21 | perfect... |
| 20:47.43 | kooldeb | valdyn: I cannot even change it to monitor mode, not to mention that for example kismet explicitly mentions it does not support the ipw2200 |
| 20:47.46 | shingouz | greycat: too complicated i guess |
| 20:47.56 | pen123 | So I need dhcp-client with static address? |
| 20:47.57 | dns21 | shimano55: are you connected via eth0 right now? |
| 20:48.04 | kooldeb | dns21: are you using one >? |
| 20:48.08 | greycat | pen123: you said you want a dynamic one. |
| 20:48.13 | greycat | pen123: therefore YOU NEED THE DHCP CLIENT. |
| 20:48.14 | shimano55 | dns21, I'm connected through a cable..yes |
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| 20:48.28 | dns21 | kooldeb: I wish |
| 20:48.30 | greycat | pen123: if you ALSO want a static one (say, on eth0:1), then you ADD ANOTHER STANZA to interfaces! |
| 20:48.33 | pen123 | I want a static address |
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| 20:48.42 | greycat | pen123: but REMOVING the dhcp client will nullify your ability to get a DHCP address. |
| 20:48.43 | verbose | anyone knw the link to a repository? |
| 20:48.44 | aFlag | i tried \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} on latex but it didn't work, does anyone know which package should i get so i can use it? |
| 20:48.44 | shingouz | kooldeb: ffs, you cannot use rfmon on ipw2100 on kismet. if dragorn says it is impossible it is. he should know, he wrote the whole setup |
| 20:48.46 | dns21 | shimano55: ok, do you know your wireless channel? |
| 20:48.56 | greycat | 16:46 pen123> But I want a static address and have dynamic one. |
| 20:48.58 | greycat | 16:48 pen123> I want a static address |
| 20:49.03 | shingouz | verbose: what do you mean. apt-cache search foobar |
| 20:49.07 | greycat | MAKE UP YOUR MIND! |
| 20:49.18 | pen123 | I want a static address |
| 20:49.21 | verbose | well, you see, i don't have debian installed |
| 20:49.21 | shimano55 | dns21, no...how would I figure out? |
| 20:49.27 | greycat | !tell pen123 about man interfaces |
| 20:49.35 | shingouz | verbose: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 20:49.38 | valdyn | ipw2100 works w/ kismet, i suspect ipw2200 works w/ kismet too, but i dont have it, so I cant try |
| 20:49.38 | pen123 | I now have a dynamic address |
| 20:49.47 | dns21 | kooldeb: orinoco cards are supported in the kernel, not to mention the availability of fun tools |
| 20:49.48 | kooldeb | shingouz: actually the ipw2100 does work. I had it b4. the ipw2200 does not |
| 20:49.52 | Thaiger | Just wondering if anyone here has run debian on an athlon 64, how did everything work? |
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| 20:50.02 | nomed | hi |
| 20:50.03 | greycat | how can someone with an "ameritech" hostmask speak english so badly? |
| 20:50.06 | dns21 | valdyn: I have heard of troubles with the ipw220 |
| 20:50.07 | kooldeb | valdyn: on the README it mentions that it does not for the ipw2200 :( |
| 20:50.12 | dns21 | shimano55: do you have another computer at all? |
| 20:50.19 | greycat | Thaiger: try #debian-amd64 |
| 20:50.20 | verbose | didn't seem to work |
| 20:50.27 | dns21 | at all = by any chance |
| 20:50.28 | shingouz | kooldeb: make up your mind too. ipw2100 does work but it doesnt. makes a lot of sense. i need some caffeine and a lot of smokes. |
| 20:50.33 | shingouz | bbiab |
| 20:50.34 | Thaiger | greycat: Thanks |
| 20:50.36 | shimano55 | dns21, I have another partition...Windows XP |
| 20:50.53 | kooldeb | shingouz: the 2100 DOES work, the 2200 DOESNOT |
| 20:50.58 | dns21 | shimano55: what type of router do you have |
| 20:51.05 | valdyn | Thaiger: athlon64 are compatible to i386 , so you can use "standard" debian or /msg dpkg amd64. Both works, but the amd64 port is not official and wont be before sarge is released |
| 20:51.11 | dns21 | kooldeb: the 2200 CAN work |
| 20:51.14 | shimano55 | dns21, DLINK DI-624 |
| 20:51.28 | spo0nman | Hmm, I want bash to autocomplete my arguments to ssh is there something I can do ... like maintain a list of hosts in a file where bash picks up hostname from and does tab completion when i do ssh this.that.tab |
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| 20:51.34 | dns21 | shimano55: have you changed any settings? |
| 20:51.35 | kooldeb | dns21: NOT under kismet. |
| 20:51.41 | shimano55 | dns21, No |
| 20:51.52 | dns21 | kooldeb: you should be able to flash orinoco drivers in it though |
| 20:52.03 | pen123 | I am going to post my /etc/network/interfaces to #flood |
| 20:52.17 | kooldeb | dns21: that I am not sure if its possible, and even how to do it :) |
| 20:52.18 | shimano55 | dns21, Wait...I might be able to go to the router admin |
| 20:52.20 | shimano55 | h/o |
| 20:52.36 | dns21 | shimano55: wait... if you are connected via eth0, open up a browser and go to http://192.168.0.1 and that will connect you to your router |
| 20:53.13 | shimano55 | ya...i know...h.o |
| 20:53.15 | dns21 | kooldeb: I think I have read somewhere that you are supposed to, it is either that or the 2400, have you checked out the forums? |
| 20:53.30 | nomed | with apt-cache show xserver-xfree86 i receive two outputs one where there is Status: install ok installed and the other where there is Filename: pool/main/x/xfree86 .. how can i get just the second? |
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| 20:53.59 | verbose | ok i just went to the apt-get site and am looking at sources.list |
| 20:54.00 | verbose | that works |
| 20:54.23 | kooldeb | dns21: can you refer me to that place where you read it at ? |
| 20:54.25 | pen123 | greycat that is all I need to do? |
| 20:54.27 | verbose | huge page |
| 20:54.34 | shimano55 | dns21, ok channel 6 |
| 20:54.54 | dns21 | shimano55: what about mode? |
| 20:55.11 | Overand | is there a tool that'll look through a local directory (a web directory, on the web server) and look for orphaned files? |
| 20:55.12 | dns21 | should be managed or auto, most likely managed |
| 20:55.43 | shimano55 | dns21, Managed |
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| 20:56.00 | dns21 | whoohoo, post-nuke finally finished the upload! |
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| 20:56.24 | dns21 | ok now type iwconfig wlan0 essid [essid] |
| 20:56.41 | dns21 | iwconfig wlan0 mode managed |
| 20:56.46 | dns21 | iwconfig wlan0 channel 6 |
| 20:56.58 | shimano55 | in iwlist wlan0 it puts it in ""...should I just leave the quotes out? |
| 20:57.13 | dns21 | shimano55: yes |
| 20:57.19 | shimano55 | ok..next? |
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| 20:57.35 | dns21 | after essid mode and channel? |
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| 20:57.49 | shimano55 | dns21, wait in the admin it says SSID...do I still do ESSID? |
| 20:57.50 | kooldeb | dns21: can you refer me to that place where you read it at ? |
| 20:57.53 | shimano55 | woah..wait |
| 20:57.54 | etrius | heya |
| 20:58.05 | shimano55 | iwconfig channel 6 and iwconfig mode Managed? |
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| 20:58.38 | dns21 | iwconfig wlan0 essid [your essid or ssid name] |
| 20:58.43 | dns21 | iwconfig wlan0 mode managed |
| 20:58.49 | dns21 | iwconfig wlan0 channel 6 |
| 20:58.54 | dns21 | is what you should type |
| 20:59.10 | etrius | i'm building a router/firewall sarge and i got a pb, i cant' ping a comp in the localnetwork by name, by ip it is ok |
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| 20:59.27 | dns21 | kooldeb: try doing a search at linuxquestions.org, I don't know it off-hand, I was trying to help out a friend |
| 20:59.43 | shimano55 | dns21, ok now what? |
| 20:59.43 | valdyn | etrius: how is your computer supposed to know the names? |
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| 21:00.25 | dns21 | type: iwconfig wlan0 |
| 21:00.27 | etrius | valdyn: dhcp + dns cache + wins server |
| 21:00.40 | dns21 | tell me if your essid channel and mode are dispayed |
| 21:00.47 | dns21 | s/dispayed/displayed |
| 21:01.38 | shimano55 | dns21, everything but the channel |
| 21:02.11 | Hitiek | can anyone suggest a fix when I am getting the following error message? I'm searching with google, but just getting other people with the error, and no fixes. "dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statusoverride file" |
| 21:02.45 | m0p | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.47 | dns21 | shimano55: one sec.... |
| 21:03.20 | dns21 | shimano55: do you see an access point? |
| 21:03.28 | shimano55 | dns21, ya |
| 21:04.03 | sparr_ | i have port 80 and 8000 "open". i can kill apache to close port 80, but what might be responding on 8000? |
| 21:04.03 | etrius | Hitiek: what's the full cmd line you type? |
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| 21:04.10 | m0p | anyone? |
| 21:04.36 | Hitiek | etrius: it was "apt-get upgrade" :) |
| 21:04.43 | Hitiek | I think I may have found the problem |
| 21:04.44 | valdyn | sparr_: lsof -i |
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| 21:04.55 | m0p | Also, how can I change the CC for firefox? I have looked through it's many config files but can't find it anywhere. |
| 21:05.25 | etrius | Hitiek: check your sources.list file, you on sarge? |
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| 21:05.39 | dns21 | shimano55: for some reason, I don't see a channel under my iwconfig wlan0 either so I don't think it is going to be an issue |
| 21:05.49 | Hitiek | I previously installed and removed a package, that appears to have left a line in the /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride file refering to a user group that doesn't exist anymore. |
| 21:05.50 | dns21 | next you will have to.... (one sec) |
| 21:05.50 | etrius | sparr_: telnet localhost 8000 and see if it put something of interest |
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| 21:05.59 | ryan` | sparr_: netstat -pla as root |
| 21:06.05 | m0p | no one around here seems to want to help me with these annoying problems so I will idle. |
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| 21:06.16 | Hitiek | I would have found it earlier, except the error message calls it the statusoverride file, not statoverride |
| 21:06.22 | ryan` | er |
| 21:06.30 | ryan` | sparr_, just netstat -pl |
| 21:06.33 | sparr_ | thanks |
| 21:06.36 | dns21 | shimano55: have you ran modprobe -i ndiswrapper yet? or does it say to do that in the documentation? |
| 21:06.39 | sparr_ | nasd was listenting on 8000 |
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| 21:07.57 | shimano55 | dns21, It doesn't say to do that |
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| 21:08.35 | dns21 | shimano55: which documentation are you reading? |
| 21:09.34 | shimano55 | dns21, http://www.ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php?Installation |
| 21:09.36 | vile_maxim | Having pppoe routing problems. My router is a woody box... the windows machines inside the network seem to be having problems with some websites. Yes I set the mss setting 1412. Anyone know how to troubleshoot this problem? |
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| 21:10.11 | shimano55 | dns21, correction http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php?Installation |
| 21:10.14 | valdyn | vile_maxim: you dont use shorewall, do you? |
| 21:10.34 | vile_maxim | no... firestarter actually |
| 21:10.56 | dns21 | shimano55: are you running 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
| 21:11.02 | shimano55 | 2.4 |
| 21:11.04 | drac | shimano55: apt-get install module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
| 21:11.06 | drac | shimano55: done. |
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| 21:11.25 | vile_maxim | valdyn, you think it's a firewall issue? |
| 21:11.46 | shimano55 | drac, I already have module-assistant |
| 21:11.47 | takatumi | my damn Alt_L or Alt_R doesn't work in a console. thought it was ion thing, just realized it's the same in other WMs. (xmodmap - mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_L (0x7d), Meta_L (0x9c)). alt-tab etc. works, just not in the console, any cluebats? |
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| 21:12.13 | drac | shimano55: m-a a-i ndiswrapper then, it will compile, package, install package, load the module, all for you. |
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| 21:12.38 | dns21 | shimano55: ndiswrapper -m |
| 21:12.39 | shimano55 | drac, I already have the module loaded though..its just getting the card configured..but thanks |
| 21:12.45 | drac | kk |
| 21:12.52 | shimano55 | dns21, it says that its already there |
| 21:12.58 | valdyn | vile_maxim: not directly, im trying to find the website for you, hold on |
| 21:13.07 | dns21 | ok... one sec |
| 21:13.21 | shimano55 | dns21, but It doesn't load when the comp starts... |
| 21:13.31 | valdyn | vile_maxim: its due to broken routers in the internet, you can fix it on your router or on each host |
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| 21:13.53 | etrius | so, what can i use to update my dns cache with dhcp hostnames info? |
| 21:13.58 | dns21 | have you gone through this entire process exactly as you have this time, yet? |
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| 21:14.09 | shimano55 | dns21, no |
| 21:14.17 | ubuntu | hello |
| 21:14.17 | vile_maxim | valdyn, what's interestingis that linux boxes have no problem dealing with it |
| 21:14.19 | citral | !lart ubuntu |
| 21:14.41 | valdyn | vile_maxim: they have the problem just the same |
| 21:14.47 | dan_ | damit.. the list I made from dselect is no good, the names are cut off |
| 21:14.52 | vile_maxim | valdyn, except that router itself |
| 21:14.59 | dan_ | how the hell do I get the list of installed packages!!!!!!! |
| 21:15.00 | S4nD3r_ | Which is the best way to may a group of users, run ROOT commands ??? Like ifconfig, route.... |
| 21:15.06 | ubuntu | what is this ?? |
| 21:15.11 | vile_maxim | valdyn, well, I can only tell you what I'm witnessing |
| 21:15.18 | ubuntu | Iam first time |
| 21:15.20 | valdyn | vile_maxim: yes, but that could be any router, the router doesnt get the problem |
| 21:15.22 | ubuntu | from poland |
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| 21:15.52 | vile_maxim | valdyn, err, I didn't understand that last one |
| 21:15.54 | citral | dan_: you don't need to put so much punctuation, it's "dpkg -l" |
| 21:16.00 | dns21 | S4nD3r_: you probably shoudn't, use su -c "commands" |
| 21:16.37 | dan_ | NPW ya tell me! |
| 21:16.49 | leonel | beside what the topic says is there a real new news about sarge release ? |
| 21:16.55 | valdyn | vile_maxim: this problem exists b/c of broken routers in the internet, affected are only boxes behind a router under certain conditions, so your router is surely not affected, no matter what OS it runs |
| 21:17.09 | dns21 | shimano55: I'm almost positive I have had to run modprobe -i ndiswrapper but for some reason it isn't saying anything about it on the wiki, hold on for a couple of minutes |
| 21:17.10 | shimano55 | dns21, how can I get the wlan0 to load when comp starts? |
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| 21:17.17 | vile_maxim | valdyn, the linux workstation I'm on right now is not having any problems.. case in point is clipart.com The 2 winXP boxes can never log on the the site... unless I boot them off a knoppix CD |
| 21:17.28 | roo9 | anyone know how to batch convert Star Office files back to Word documents? |
| 21:17.47 | shimano55 | dns21, ok |
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| 21:17.55 | vile_maxim | valdyn, which I think is stange. |
| 21:17.59 | ubuntu | g |
| 21:18.06 | ubuntu | jest ktoÅ› z polski |
| 21:18.17 | citral | ubuntu: /j #ubuntu |
| 21:18.28 | greg_work | is there a way to block an IP after it fails ssh authentication 3 times? (pam module maybe?) |
| 21:18.36 | citral | other said, go away |
| 21:18.46 | ubuntu | ok |
| 21:18.58 | valdyn | vile_maxim: youre connected via adsl, correct? |
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| 21:19.08 | dns21 | shimano55: actually I am positive |
| 21:19.09 | vile_maxim | yeah |
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| 21:19.27 | dns21 | does anybody see anything wrong with running "modprobe -i ndiswrapper"? |
| 21:19.59 | dns21 | either it fails or it works, either way it shouldn't screw anything up right? |
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| 21:20.21 | shimano55 | dns21, it said that -i is an invalid option |
| 21:20.29 | dns21 | modprobe? |
| 21:20.42 | shimano55 | dns21, ya |
| 21:20.49 | pen123 | Microsoft sales growth is slowest in five years |
| 21:20.59 | valdyn | vile_maxim: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.cookbook.mtu-mss.shtml |
| 21:21.05 | dns21 | pen123: they also haven't released an os in 5 years |
| 21:21.09 | pen123 | Does that mean Linux is taking over? |
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| 21:21.36 | vile_maxim | valdyn, thanks... |
| 21:21.42 | shimano55 | pen123, no |
| 21:21.44 | dns21 | pen123: longhorn is going to come crashing down on linux |
| 21:21.52 | loco | hola |
| 21:21.53 | Gathond | pen123: probably means that PC sales growth is the slowest in five years |
| 21:22.01 | valdyn | vile_maxim: theres a better text that i cant find atm. |
| 21:22.22 | dns21 | pen123: and I'm not promoting longhorn, they are just adding some very different features |
| 21:22.33 | pen123 | Debian Sarge Gnome desktop is pretty darn good. |
| 21:22.44 | Gathond | dns21: well that is not true, since XP is not 5 years old, nor is windows 2003 |
| 21:22.51 | pen123 | Missing Access app. |
| 21:22.52 | shimano55 | dns21, What shoukd I do? says thats not valid in modprobe |
| 21:23.02 | dns21 | shimano55: what does man modprobe say? |
| 21:23.06 | loco | como hago para entrar en una pagina en espñol |
| 21:23.08 | citral | hardware industry has a big problem with GNU/linux. because running a 700 MHz with 128 Ram is just fine. |
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| 21:23.15 | dns21 | Gathond: XP came out in 01 |
| 21:23.18 | roo9 | longhorn will not crash anything.... except itself |
| 21:23.24 | thingfish | loco: haga /join #debian-es |
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| 21:23.38 | anto9us | pen123, OpenOffice.org V2 will include an Access like application |
| 21:23.47 | pen123 | this computer with celeron would choke on XP runs Sarge Gnome fine |
| 21:23.56 | shimano55 | dns21, when I do modprobe -l it shows ndiswrapper.o |
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| 21:24.10 | Gathond | dns21: point taken, that will be 5 years to october |
| 21:24.12 | dns21 | roo9: be realistic, although it will suck and have its problems, the average user is going to continue to get sucked in to the crazy shit MS is going to probuce |
| 21:24.13 | shimano55 | dns21, -i is in the manual |
| 21:24.25 | dns21 | shimano55: try modprobe -i ndiswrapper.o |
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| 21:24.44 | dns21 | s/probuce/produce |
| 21:24.51 | roo9 | dns21: speak for the people around you. I just bought my mother a mac, so now, there is no more windows in the house |
| 21:24.51 | Gathond | then again what do I care about what the people (aka the masses) uses, as long as they dong force the crap upon me |
| 21:24.58 | citral | may I remind you that windows is definitely offtopic here? |
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| 21:25.05 | roo9 | dns21: i have erased windows from this house |
| 21:25.11 | roo9 | citra1: why? |
| 21:25.19 | dns21 | roo9, I got my parents to run fedora core, I administer it from 200 miles away |
| 21:25.36 | pngwn | roo9, because the topic here is debian |
| 21:25.55 | citral | roo9: this is #debian, a channel meant to help people that have questions/problems with _debian_ |
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| 21:25.59 | shimano55 | dns21, same |
| 21:26.33 | shimano55 | dns21, -i --ignore-install --ignore-remove |
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| 21:26.47 | shimano55 | dns21, thats from the manual...should I use one or the other> |
| 21:26.50 | deadcat | powernowd is not working on my ibook anymore. its stuck at 400mhz (= |
| 21:26.51 | shimano55 | ? |
| 21:26.52 | citral | so suze, redhat, knoppix, windows and anything else is offtopic- |
| 21:26.57 | roo9 | dns21: yeah, i had my mother running ubuntu a while ago |
| 21:26.59 | citral | sorry |
| 21:27.06 | citral | :) |
| 21:27.08 | roo9 | dns21: it just didn't work |
| 21:27.19 | dns21 | shimano55: whoops, try running modprobe -m again |
| 21:27.30 | dns21 | roo9: why not? |
| 21:27.35 | vile_maxim | valdyn, yeah, I ran into that already. I tried it but didn't seem to solve the problem. Anyother ideas |
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| 21:28.10 | shimano55 | dns21, invalid option --m |
| 21:28.19 | roo9 | dns21: in the sense that it's not intuitive, it's clumbsy, and difficult to use, quite frankly for the uneducated user, linux has a long way to go on the desktop, somewhere that, again frankly, i don't care if it ever goes |
| 21:28.27 | valdyn | vile_maxim: if you add that rule _after_ firestarter runs, then it will probably not be at the right place, rules are checked in order.. |
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| 21:28.53 | dns21 | roo9: My parents and brother know absolutely nothing, it seems like it isn't bad when they start from the ground up |
| 21:28.58 | valdyn | vile_maxim: do you understand german btw? i found an extensive howto on this, including how to fix this on clients |
| 21:29.06 | vile_maxim | nope |
| 21:29.07 | dns21 | roo9: they don't become indoctrinated in a certain way of doing things |
| 21:29.17 | shimano55 | dns21, this is weird... : \ |
| 21:29.39 | vile_maxim | valdyn, I tried dropping the mtu on the client to 1400, 1412, 1492 nothing seemed to work there ether |
| 21:29.40 | roo9 | dns21: well... she has been using windows since 3.11. |
| 21:29.40 | dns21 | shimano55: did you just run modprobe -m or did you add ndiswrapper at the end? |
| 21:30.02 | shimano55 | o |
| 21:30.04 | deadcat | powernowd in sid is broken (= |
| 21:30.05 | shimano55 | just -m |
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| 21:31.01 | shimano55 | dns21, hmmm..it just disapears and leaves me on the same line which is blank |
| 21:31.03 | valdyn | vile_maxim: that fact that you use firestarter makes this ( probably ) harder than it is. since we dont know what exactly firestarter does. try stopping firestarter, then adding the rule, then starting it, or something like that |
| 21:31.35 | shimano55 | dns21, wait..nvm..invalid option |
| 21:31.47 | dns21 | shimano55: try ndiswrapper -m |
| 21:32.04 | vile_maxim | valdyn, k |
| 21:32.18 | shimano55 | dns21, modprobe config already contains alias directive |
| 21:32.28 | dns21 | good |
| 21:33.32 | shimano55 | dns21, ok..now what? |
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| 21:33.53 | dns21 | now, I'm not very familiar with debian yet (was a slacker for a long time) but you should be able to add it in /etc/modules or /etc/modules.conf, you may want to get help from somebody else to get it to start at boottime |
| 21:33.56 | vile_maxim | valdyn, I stoped firestater and droped that line on the command line and get the same. |
| 21:34.14 | citral | deadcat: cpufreqd works fine here |
| 21:34.26 | shimano55 | dns21, but I can just restart and do ifconfig wlan0 up...right? |
| 21:34.31 | citral | (on sarge) |
| 21:34.46 | dns21 | shimano55: no, I don't think so |
| 21:35.03 | shimano55 | dns21, that's what is says in instructions... |
| 21:35.07 | dns21 | shimano55: ndiswrapper needs to load at boot so wlan0 can be recognized |
| 21:35.19 | shimano55 | oooo |
| 21:35.21 | shimano55 | ok... |
| 21:35.22 | valdyn | vile_maxim: you even have masquerading active w/ firestarter stopped? can access any site at all? |
| 21:36.02 | dns21 | your drivers are technically not installed on linux, rather, ndiswrapper is installed and acts as a medium to communicate with yoru driver |
| 21:36.29 | vile_maxim | valdyn, yeah masquerading is working or I wouldn't be in this room |
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| 21:36.58 | shimano55 | dns21, brb...i need to do it in root |
| 21:37.09 | deadcat | citral: i downgraded back to .90, .95 is bad. |
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| 21:37.24 | waxboy | is there a key combo to scroll up in your basic terminal? |
| 21:37.44 | asg | waxboy: SHIFT+PGUP |
| 21:37.45 | valdyn | vile_maxim: it does not have to work in order for you to be in this room, as long as your irc client is on the router |
| 21:38.14 | vile_maxim | valdyn, this is a work station... |
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| 21:39.11 | simonrvn | asg: shift the pig up? uncomfortable on the bed of hay? |
| 21:39.33 | asg | simonrvn: I've always been partial to bacon sandwiches |
| 21:39.43 | simonrvn | asg: hehe. hi :) |
| 21:39.50 | asg | simonrvn: hiya, how are thing? |
| 21:39.55 | asg | s/g?/gs?/ |
| 21:39.59 | vile_maxim | valdyn, I turned back on the firewall... felt too naked :) |
| 21:40.14 | simonrvn | asg: doing ok. you? |
| 21:40.28 | asg | simonrvn: not bad, end of a long week. |
| 21:40.32 | valdyn | vile_maxim: ok, i found it, explains aswell how to fix this on each box individually instead of centrally on the router: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/mtu-issues.html |
| 21:40.51 | vile_maxim | valdyn, thanks |
| 21:40.52 | simonrvn | asg: that's always a Good Thing ;) |
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| 21:41.15 | valdyn | vile_maxim: just that "pppoe.conf" doesnt exist in debian, no idea about that.. |
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| 21:41.25 | asg | simonrvn: yeah, I just have to figure out why I'm not getting any debian list traffic and/or why lists.debian.org appears to blackhole everything I send to them. |
| 21:41.38 | anto9us | how do I add contrib and non-free archives to my sources.list? |
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| 21:42.00 | asg | anto9us: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:42.18 | simonrvn | asg: might be due to them being on some anti-spam lists, like DNSBLs |
| 21:42.30 | asg | anto9us: append ' contrib non-free' after the 'main' keyword at the end |
| 21:42.33 | deadcat | is it ok to use sarge packages in sid? |
| 21:42.38 | deadcat | like xorg? |
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| 21:43.00 | valdyn | !confuse deadcat |
| 21:43.02 | dpkg | No, those is your snake today, deadcat? breeches of the democracy of tahiti with extra cheese |
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| 21:43.05 | asg | simonrvn: could be. My gateway was down for a few hours and since then, I've received nothing at all. |
| 21:43.15 | citral | deadcat: bleh |
| 21:43.29 | simonrvn | a GW being down wouldn't do it |
| 21:43.35 | deadcat | citral: i am gonna risk it (= |
| 21:43.36 | Levander | When I mount some shares off my XP box onto my linux box, the gnome system monitor applet says that my network is constantly being accessed via little blips of activity. Even when I'm not actively using the drive. If I mount these drives off my XP box via NFS, will it still do that? Or, does NFS make use of that resource the same or worse? Or, even make use of other resources poorly. |
| 21:43.37 | simonrvn | esp. that little time |
| 21:43.39 | anto9us | asg, to all the lines? |
| 21:43.47 | asg | simonrvn: yeah, all my other non-debian list traffic is coming in just fine. |
| 21:44.03 | asg | anto9us: any you wish to get non-free/contrib from, yes. |
| 21:44.07 | dns21 | whew... postnuke = installed |
| 21:44.07 | citral | deadcat: you want to mess up your system. your choice, but don't come here to whine after that. |
| 21:44.26 | deadcat | citral: ya. i just apt-get remove the X and reinstall them. done that already (= |
| 21:44.29 | simonrvn | the list admins have tried getting off the BLs, but they keep getting put back on |
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| 21:45.11 | shimano55 | dns21, damn... |
| 21:45.16 | dns21 | shimano55: you are from phoenix? |
| 21:45.24 | asg | simonrvn: yeah. It's possible that it's an RBL but those are only really useful for blocking incoming mail, not outbound traffic. |
| 21:45.27 | shimano55 | dns21, uhh yes |
| 21:45.28 | citral | deadcat: and honestly, don't you have something better to do? anything useful? like learning perl or python or... anything useful |
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| 21:45.43 | shimano55 | dns21, didn't work dude... |
| 21:45.59 | deadcat | citral: i know perl already. i need xorg for vga output |
| 21:46.00 | dan_ | is there a way I can get the whole dependency tree of a package???? |
| 21:46.00 | dns21 | ok, now type dmesg | grep ndiswrapper |
| 21:46.05 | simonrvn | or getting gssapi going... ;p |
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| 21:46.11 | nazgob | I'm trying to install Kylix, delphi part is working ok but i can't start c++, i get: /usr/kylix3/bin/bcblin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:46.18 | asg | simonrvn: if I telnet to murphy and do smtp manually from a totally unrelated machine and try to subscribe myself to the list, I get nothing. |
| 21:46.29 | simonrvn | asg: O_O |
| 21:46.34 | xtz | hi there, how do i install gnome on an fresh installed debian woody? |
| 21:46.36 | shimano55 | dns, wait...brb |
| 21:46.46 | asg | simonrvn: yeah, very odd. I'll have to mail the listmaster this weekend and find out wtf. |
| 21:46.49 | nvz | xtz: apt-get install gnome |
| 21:46.57 | dan_ | I'm still trying to put this router install togethor... I need to know everying interrequired for, say zebraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 21:47.05 | dan_ | oop;;ssllddffk |
| 21:47.08 | dan_ | ?????? |
| 21:47.08 | m0p | if I have compiled gcc with tune as pentium4 and cpu as pentium4, would any code produced by the program be optimised too? |
| 21:47.10 | xtz | nvz: E: Couldn't find package gnome |
| 21:47.11 | citral | dan_: stfu |
| 21:47.16 | valdyn | xtz: consider upgrading to sarge |
| 21:47.17 | simonrvn | @lart dan_ |
| 21:47.18 | asg | !install gnome |
| 21:47.18 | dpkg | i heard install gnome is in woody: apt-get install gnome-session gnome-control-center sawfish-gnome ; In sarge and sid: apt-get install gnome |
| 21:47.20 | dan_ | sorry, knoppix is doing strange thing to me |
| 21:47.21 | nazgob | xtx: apt-cache search gnome - check this first |
| 21:47.26 | valdyn | !tell xtc about woody->sarge |
| 21:47.37 | nvz | xtz: ah, sorry, /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 21:47.40 | m0p | anyone? :( |
| 21:47.43 | dns21 | dan_: knoppix does strange things to me too |
| 21:47.54 | dan_ | its NOT good as a workstation |
| 21:47.54 | nvz | I've been away from debian, and #debian too long |
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| 21:48.04 | valdyn | m0p: no |
| 21:48.06 | dan_ | utilities disk, ok, workstation BAD |
| 21:48.11 | asg | m0p: try #c. I don't think so unless you also pass the required params while compiling. |
| 21:48.18 | m0p | darn, and I'm half way to compiling firefox :( |
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| 21:48.28 | xtz | first, i cant install sarge at the moment, second, i installed gnome-session etc.. but when gnome starts, it says i dont have any proper "window manager" installed... what should i install exactly? |
| 21:48.30 | simonrvn | m0p: i assume you did some research before doing this? you could answer that for us if you did. |
| 21:48.30 | nazgob | any ideas about my problem with Kylix? |
| 21:48.30 | asg | m0p: why compile? this isn't #gentoo |
| 21:48.39 | dan_ | so whole dependency tree, anyone know how? |
| 21:48.46 | m0p | and I'm trying to make an optimized build, asg :P |
| 21:48.54 | dns21 | dan_: It gets me all paranoid... I'm just about pure debian (i think) though |
| 21:49.01 | valdyn | dan_: #knoppix |
| 21:49.12 | asg | m0p: you will likely gain very little, but if you must ... |
| 21:49.12 | citral | dan_: #knoppix |
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| 21:49.24 | dns21 | dan_: yeah, might be a good idea to go there |
| 21:49.32 | dan_ | nono, I dont want knoppix |
| 21:49.45 | dan_ | I'm building a debian router |
| 21:49.48 | citral | dan_: you're on drugs. |
| 21:49.54 | dan_ | but I have to use knoppix to do it |
| 21:50.02 | citral | pffff |
| 21:50.20 | dan_ | look, I dont have the hardware to do this any other way right now |
| 21:50.30 | simonrvn | dan_: you do? i doubt that... ah |
| 21:50.31 | mikeX | xtz, metacity is the default gnome window manager |
| 21:50.31 | dan_ | I need to build a working debian system with knoppix |
| 21:50.36 | crashbg | dan_, why don't you do netinstall? |
| 21:50.41 | mikeX | xtz, but you can use something else if you like |
| 21:50.46 | simonrvn | dan_: debootstrap |
| 21:50.49 | asg | dan_: you want to build a live cd? |
| 21:50.55 | dan_ | crashbg ok, you have 109M of flash ide |
| 21:50.57 | citral | dan_: WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? |
| 21:51.14 | xtz | mikeX, thanks, i will try this one |
| 21:51.17 | dan_ | I'm building a router, running in ram via a flash disk |
| 21:51.19 | simonrvn | that was an ECHAN i think |
| 21:51.37 | dan_ | http://gate-bunker.p6.msu.ru/~berk/router.html |
| 21:51.39 | dan_ | see that!!!! |
| 21:51.46 | asg | nyet |
| 21:51.47 | nvz | oh well, it really looks like I am not getting internet.. I think I'll ge a cell phone instead :P |
| 21:51.48 | dan_ | thats what I'm trying to do with 1!!!! |
| 21:51.51 | dan_ | accetption |
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| 21:52.01 | simonrvn | !!!1111!!! |
| 21:52.05 | dan_ | I need to do it sarge, not woody |
| 21:52.08 | citral | !!//!(/ |
| 21:52.09 | asg | simonrvn: nice palindrome |
| 21:52.12 | dan_ | that it, thats all I want |
| 21:52.23 | simonrvn | accidental too =) |
| 21:52.31 | dan_ | but that stupid script relies on local machine stuff |
| 21:52.40 | asg | dan_: we told you. Build a custom environment using debootstrap to par the sarge install below 110M. |
| 21:52.52 | simonrvn | so fix said stupid script, or use debootstrap |
| 21:53.00 | dan_ | like sarge.buildd, which is ALL WRONG on knoppix, I have obtained the REL sarge script, its working, kinda |
| 21:53.36 | simonrvn | one last time. debootstrap debootstrap debootstrap debootstrap debootstrap debootstrap debootstrap debootstrap |
| 21:53.50 | simonrvn | make life easier |
| 21:53.50 | dns21 | haha |
| 21:53.55 | dan_ | asg yes, and I'm close, my issue right now is needing things like zebra, I want to make sure I have everything not neded cut out |
| 21:54.03 | dan_ | I'm using debootstrap |
| 21:54.08 | citral | !blaireau simonrvn |
| 21:54.09 | dpkg | ENOUGH! |
| 21:54.09 | simonrvn | get quagga. it's actually in development |
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| 21:54.28 | dan_ | but via that, it seems that if there are dependencies I need, I have to manually write them in |
| 21:54.46 | simonrvn | "write them in" to what/where? |
| 21:54.50 | dns21 | simonrvn: knoppix is essentially an f'ed up debian after install right? |
| 21:54.54 | dan_ | so, for something like zebra, I need the whole tree of dependencies, not just the next level |
| 21:55.00 | simonrvn | knoppix is knoppix |
| 21:55.01 | xtz | I'm getting this error on starting gnome @ debian : "You are not running a GNOME compilant Window Manager......." what should i do ? i allready installed metacity... |
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| 21:55.14 | m0p | hmmmm, when I use make, is there a way I can use -mtune on every file compiled? |
| 21:55.30 | dan_ | simonrvn into the foo.buildd script I'm using with debootstrap |
| 21:55.58 | dan_ | as debootstrap sarge default includes useless things to me like gcc |
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| 21:56.49 | dan_ | tet |
| 21:56.53 | simonrvn | ... |
| 21:56.58 | m0p | do I just add it to make? like "make -f client.mk -mtune=pentium4"? |
| 21:57.02 | m0p | or not?... |
| 21:57.12 | simonrvn | it's a *gcc* option |
| 21:57.19 | m0p | I know.... |
| 21:57.21 | m0p | hmmm :( |
| 21:57.34 | asg | dan_: well, start with /usr/share/doc (that's a lot of space that won't be needed in such a situation.) |
| 21:57.36 | simonrvn | so WTF would you add it to make args? |
| 21:57.47 | m0p | oops |
| 21:57.54 | dan_ | asg, all thats taken out by the script I'm using |
| 21:57.58 | m0p | maybe this in the mozconfig: ac_add_options --enable-optimize="-O2 -mtune=pentium4" |
| 21:57.59 | dan_ | to paste it again... |
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| 21:58.13 | dan_ | http://gate-bunker.p6.msu.ru/~berk/router.html |
| 21:58.15 | asg | dan_: gcc proper is not included by debootstrap |
| 21:58.20 | dan_ | that is the build a router script |
| 21:58.35 | simonrvn | asg: i have GSSAPI auth going, using heimdal, and LDAP backend :) |
| 21:58.40 | shimano55 | dns21, Ok...dmesg | grep ndiswrapper and dmesg | grep wlan0 return info about the dirvers and card |
| 21:58.42 | asg | simonrvn: oh, nice |
| 21:58.46 | dan_ | asg maybe you better look at the deboostraps sarge.buildd |
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| 21:59.08 | dan_ | unless I'm wrong, they seem to be including everything for compiling |
| 21:59.09 | shimano55 | dsn21, is it possible that the computer is using the wifi card driver for the ethernet card? They are both DLink.... |
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| 21:59.39 | shimano55 | dns21* |
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| 22:00.03 | simonrvn | "...rather a boot wrapper for Debian proper. It is work in progress - use at your own risk." |
| 22:00.13 | asg | dan_: well, the last sarge debootstrap I used to build UML images included gcc-3.3-base and libgcc1 (both very small) |
| 22:00.17 | simonrvn | emphasis on the 'work in progress' |
| 22:00.30 | m0p | ok, compiling firefox yet AGAIN! |
| 22:00.33 | dan_ | I want to try to take the last of packages I need from the list of applications I ultimatly need, zebra, ipsec, ssh... |
| 22:00.43 | asg | simonrvn: I'm happy that exim 4.50 made it into sarge. |
| 22:00.47 | m0p | ok, that didn't work at all... |
| 22:00.54 | simonrvn | yes, it's really nice |
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| 22:01.15 | dns21 | shimano55: yeah |
| 22:01.25 | asg | simonrvn: agreed, I've spent a year looking to replace v3 on our gateway and just can't find a better solution. |
| 22:01.31 | shimano55 | dns21, it is? |
| 22:01.35 | nazgob | i have this error when I want to start c++ kylix: /usr/kylix3/bin/bcblin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 22:01.47 | nazgob | any ideas? |
| 22:01.51 | dns21 | shimano55: is what? sorry I just got to my comp |
| 22:01.56 | nazgob | I have alllibraries |
| 22:02.06 | shimano55 | dns21, dsn21, is it possible that the computer is using the wifi card driver for the ethernet card? They are both DLink.... |
| 22:02.07 | simonrvn | "Check the head of the script for configurable parameters. It is most important to set BUSYBOX variable to the location of busybox binary," |
| 22:02.09 | dan_ | base="apt bi...cpp cpp-3.3 dpkg-dev g++ g++-3.3 gcc gcc-3.3 libc6-dev...linux-kernel-headers make patch pe... |
| 22:02.35 | dan_ | asg looks like the whole sweet to me |
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| 22:02.43 | asg | dan_: where did you get that? |
| 22:02.52 | dan_ | sarge.buildd |
| 22:03.00 | dns21 | shimano55: doubt it |
| 22:03.06 | simonrvn | nazgob: obviously you don't otherwise it wouldn't puke |
| 22:03.11 | asg | dan_: and where does 'sarge.buildd' come from? |
| 22:03.18 | shimano55 | dns21, then I'm outta ideas... |
| 22:03.40 | dan_ | apt-get install debootstrap; updatedb; locate sarge.buildd |
| 22:04.00 | dan_ | its under /var/ I think |
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| 22:04.31 | dns21 | basically you have to keep trying until you are about to strangle the closest living thing around you, then for some reason the ndiswrapper gods decide to work |
| 22:05.07 | shimano55 | dns21, wait |
| 22:05.07 | anto9us | how do I find out what package provides iwconfig? |
| 22:05.08 | nazgob | simonrvn: where to find libc6.1-1.so.2 ? |
| 22:05.10 | dns21 | shimano55: I absolutely hate configuring ndiswrapper... I have done it too times |
| 22:05.17 | dns21 | aut9us: wifi-tools |
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| 22:05.32 | simonrvn | nazgob: you're looking for libstdc++, not libc6.1-1.so.2 |
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| 22:05.38 | nazgob | simonrvn: i can't find it with apt |
| 22:05.43 | dns21 | aut9us: maybe net-tools |
| 22:05.45 | simonrvn | @libstdc |
| 22:05.45 | ravenbird | libstdc doesn't exist, you either want libc or libstdc++, or see libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 |
| 22:05.59 | shimano55 | dns21, ok I ran iwlist scan...and then dmesg | grep wlan0, and the access points are different : \ |
| 22:05.59 | dns21 | n/m |
| 22:06.12 | dns21 | how so? |
| 22:06.17 | dcell | Is there an openldap package in testing or unstable that includes SSL support? |
| 22:06.29 | simonrvn | dcell: yes. by default |
| 22:06.37 | dan_ | asg I'm sorry, I cant find the machine I found it on |
| 22:06.41 | dan_ | ah wait |
| 22:06.48 | asg | dan_: well, I have the same sarge.buildd |
| 22:06.56 | dcell | simonrvn, slapd has ssl enabled by default?? |
| 22:06.56 | shimano55 | dns21...ok..can we pm? |
| 22:07.08 | asg | dan_: however, the resultant debootstrap'd chroot doesn't include linux-kernel-headers |
| 22:07.15 | asg | dan_: or many of the things you listed. |
| 22:07.26 | nazgob | i have libstdc++6 installed |
| 22:07.28 | dan_ | interesting, ok |
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| 22:07.43 | deadcat | hohoho, xorg and vga output is working on my ibook (= |
| 22:07.44 | simonrvn | nazgob: you need -dev then |
| 22:07.44 | dan_ | asg, maybe it dosn't install the base? |
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| 22:07.59 | phaedral | hi all |
| 22:08.05 | nazgob | simonrvn i have it as well :) |
| 22:08.21 | dns21 | shimano55: do you have a skype account? |
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| 22:08.34 | asg | dan_: dunno, but 'COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep gcc' returns only gcc-3.3-base and libgcc1 |
| 22:08.36 | shimano55 | dns21, no |
| 22:08.40 | nazgob | simonrvn: there is sth wrong with this file |
| 22:08.53 | simonrvn | so reinstall it |
| 22:08.58 | phaedral | any debian specific pointers on getting phpinfo.php to work in a user's public_html? |
| 22:09.11 | mfrisch | does anyone know about * |
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| 22:09.23 | dan_ | asg, ok, next question, if I'm installing zebra, how do I know EVERYTHING else I have to tell it to include |
| 22:09.24 | dan_ | ? |
| 22:09.27 | dcell | simonrvn, I see that the slapd pkg depends on the libsasl package. |
| 22:09.35 | dns21 | shimano55: join #dns21 |
| 22:09.37 | nazgob | simonrvn: that's the least elegant solution :) |
| 22:09.48 | asg | dan_: is zebra a debian package? |
| 22:10.00 | asg | dan_: if so, apt-cache show zebra | grep ^Depends |
| 22:10.01 | dan_ | asg I believe so |
| 22:10.05 | nazgob | thx for help anyway |
| 22:10.08 | dan_ | ok |
| 22:10.21 | dan_ | grr I need a real machine |
| 22:10.36 | simonrvn | dcell: yes, and? |
| 22:11.08 | dcell | simonrvn, this is not the same as SSL right? |
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| 22:12.19 | bwlang | i'm trying to build a kernel that supports an lvm filesystem on / but i get kernel panic when booting saying that it can't find my /dev/mapper/... root filesystem. I have made an initrd using mkinitrd which seems okay... is there some kind of disk label support or something i have to add (other than device mapper) |
| 22:12.26 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - does anybody know of any .debs of freeciv 2.0 for sarge? ive looked on apt-get.org |
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| 22:13.01 | simonrvn | dcell: you need to do some reading. no it isn't |
| 22:13.31 | stew | Super_Cat_Frog: /msg dpkg simple sid backport || /msg dpkg quick sid/sarge mix |
| 22:14.19 | Shaun- | i'm creating a boot disk image with dd and ms-sys and it works fine as long as i create a 2880 sized disk (fd02880) but when i try to make the image bigger (dd if=/dev/zero of=floppy.img bs=1024 count=5760) it wont boot, anybody know why? |
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| 22:14.40 | Shaun- | the image is being booted via memdisk from syslinux |
| 22:14.41 | pipeline | Shaun-: Floppies come in about six sizes. 2.88M is one of them. Bigger than that is not. |
| 22:15.04 | Shaun- | pipeline: i understand that but i'm not writing this image to a floppy. |
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| 22:15.08 | pipeline | Shaun-: memdisk is a floppy emulation. |
| 22:15.11 | Gathond | pipeline: the 1.44 variaint being the pratical limit for the PC variant? :) |
| 22:15.11 | Shaun- | right |
| 22:15.13 | Super_Cat_Frog | thanks stew |
| 22:15.16 | FieldySnuts | @lart Shaun- |
| 22:15.21 | pipeline | Gathond: No, 2.88M floppies were almost exclusively used on PCs. |
| 22:15.43 | Gathond | pipeline: then I just missed ever owning or seeing one |
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| 22:15.54 | Shaun- | pipeline: but memdisk will also work with harddisk images. |
| 22:16.01 | mith | Gathond: they weren't very popular |
| 22:16.06 | Ireal | hi, does anyone know a good channel to discuss wlan troubles? |
| 22:16.13 | Gathond | mith: probably |
| 22:16.21 | Shaun- | pipeline: so i guess my question is that i need to create a bootable hd image somehow.. |
| 22:16.23 | pipeline | Gathond: Media were expensive, and you couldn't use a 1.44M disk at 2.88M capacity. |
| 22:16.32 | mith | Gathond: no probably to it, they weren't, the shit was entirely too expensive to be practical |
| 22:16.35 | dcell | simonrvn, One last question, I hope you can answer before I go off to reading. If SSL is enabled by default why is only port 389 open and not also 636? |
| 22:16.36 | pipeline | Shaun-: I've never fooled with that. Read the syslinux docs : |
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| 22:16.54 | simonrvn | dcell: again, do some reading ;) |
| 22:17.17 | simonrvn | dcell: www.openldap.org admin guide, and the FAQ (www.openldap.org/faq/) |
| 22:17.38 | FieldySnuts | you get to set up openldap? aren't you lucky! (major sarcasm) |
| 22:17.39 | dcell | I hate the wink of the eye |
| 22:18.10 | FieldySnuts | setting up samba 3 on a windows domain with active directory is more fun than that |
| 22:18.25 | simonrvn | nah, samba is a pain |
| 22:18.40 | mfrisch | I can't get kiax to register with my asterisk server. Please help |
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| 22:19.05 | gridbug | Hey folks... anybody have any insight or able to point me to some info (other than the existing bug report) for Evolution 2.2 and Exchange-connector? |
| 22:19.30 | simonrvn | @fgi gridbug evolution+exchange |
| 22:19.34 | ravenbird | gridbug: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=evolution+exchange |
| 22:19.51 | gridbug | ravenbird: Thanks. Already done that. :P |
| 22:19.51 | ravenbird | gern geschehen, gridbug |
| 22:20.04 | stew | Ireal: #wireless |
| 22:20.06 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: irritate gridbug |
| 22:20.08 | dpkg | gridbug: Y iz debain so old? where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol !!!! |
| 22:20.20 | stew | !list |
| 22:20.21 | dpkg | one warez list being sent |
| 22:20.24 | FieldySnuts | haha |
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| 22:20.40 | simonrvn | !factinfo list |
| 22:20.40 | dpkg | list -- created by za <~za@62.252.236.75> at Wed Aug 14 22:34:06 2002 (988 days); it has been requested 261 times, last by stew, 20s ago. |
| 22:20.40 | FieldySnuts | !locate 0-day.exe |
| 22:20.44 | gridbug | Heh. Thaaanks. |
| 22:20.50 | simonrvn | whoah |
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| 22:21.12 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: hehe 'nother one to add |
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| 22:22.19 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: cmd locate is <reply> $1: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/$2.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/$2.exe |
| 22:22.20 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: okay |
| 22:22.24 | FieldySnuts | !locate leet |
| 22:22.36 | FieldySnuts | okay i suck. anyone care to fix that :( |
| 22:22.38 | simonrvn | um, not quite |
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| 22:22.49 | simonrvn | !cmd locate |
| 22:22.50 | dpkg | $1: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/$2.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/$2.exe |
| 22:22.57 | simonrvn | !forget cmd locate |
| 22:22.58 | dpkg | i forgot cmd locate, simonrvn |
| 22:23.06 | FieldySnuts | oh. |
| 22:23.10 | stew | dpkg cmd: locate is <reply> $1: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/$2.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/$2.exe |
| 22:23.11 | dpkg | stew: okay |
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| 22:23.17 | stew | !locate snuts |
| 22:23.17 | simonrvn | !forget cmd locate |
| 22:23.18 | dpkg | simonrvn: i didn't have anything called 'cmd locate' to forget |
| 22:23.27 | FieldySnuts | !locate leet |
| 22:23.34 | FieldySnuts | eh okay eating... |
| 22:23.36 | stew | duh |
| 22:23.45 | stew | !foget cmd: locate |
| 22:23.53 | stew | !forget cmd: locate |
| 22:23.54 | dpkg | stew: i forgot CMD: locate |
| 22:23.54 | asg | !foghat cmd: locate |
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| 22:24.07 | sportpack24 | hello. where can I find pg_config? |
| 22:24.16 | asg | sportpack24: /msg dpkg search |
| 22:24.17 | simonrvn | !locate $1 is <reply>$2: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/$1.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/$1.exe |
| 22:24.18 | dpkg | simonrvn: okay |
| 22:24.23 | simonrvn | !locate foo |
| 22:24.23 | dpkg | $2: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/foo.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/foo.exe |
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| 22:24.33 | FieldySnuts | close |
| 22:24.34 | simonrvn | !forget locate |
| 22:24.34 | dpkg | i didn't have anything called 'locate' to forget, simonrvn |
| 22:24.46 | simonrvn | !forget cmd locate (.*?) |
| 22:24.46 | dpkg | i didn't have anything called 'cmd locate (.*?)' to forget, simonrvn |
| 22:24.53 | antoninus | you guys are great, I'm a new debian user and this evening I've set up my inspiron 9100 and now have wifi support, all with little tips and pointers from here and I'm thus far very impressed with the whole experience :) |
| 22:25.03 | FieldySnuts | :D |
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| 22:25.26 | xtz | witch keyboard layout should i enter for Swiss-French keyboard in Xfree configuration ? |
| 22:25.54 | pragma_ | dpkg, source |
| 22:25.55 | dpkg | Use 'apt-setup' to add a deb-src line to your sources.list. Then 'apt-get build-dep foo' to fetch the build deps, then finally 'apt-get [-b] source foo' to retrieve the .orig.tar.gz, the .diff.gz and the .dsc. The source is unpacked in `pwd` and the diff.gz is applied. -b compiles it for you; if you want to compile it yourself, use "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us" from within the unpacked dir. Don't forget to install debhelper! |
| 22:26.01 | pragma_ | der.. |
| 22:26.03 | simonrvn | !locate foo bar |
| 22:26.04 | dpkg | simonrvn: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/foo.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/foo.exe |
| 22:26.04 | pragma_ | dpkg, version |
| 22:26.05 | dpkg | i guess version is Debian = Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r4 "Woody" | dpkg = blootbot |
| 22:26.11 | pragma_ | simonrvn, what type of bot is dpkg? |
| 22:26.17 | simonrvn | !blootbot |
| 22:26.17 | dpkg | well, blootbot is a severely modified infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
| 22:26.23 | asg | !version s/r4/r5/ |
| 22:26.28 | asg | !version =~ s/r4/r5/ |
| 22:26.28 | dpkg | OK, asg |
| 22:27.05 | sparr_ | ive got games playing via alsa, with dmix set up as my default device in alsa. any time my cpu load jumps momentarily i get a crackle in my sound. help? |
| 22:27.09 | simonrvn | !locate foo bar |
| 22:27.10 | dpkg | simonrvn: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/foo.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/foo.exe |
| 22:27.25 | FieldySnuts | !dma |
| 22:27.25 | dpkg | i heard dma is (Direct Memory Access) PCs have DMA channels that allow certain devices to directly access memory in order to speed up the process. to turn off dma, echo "using_dma:0" > /proc/ide/hda/settings and hdparm -d0 /dev/hda |
| 22:27.43 | simonrvn | !locate foo bar |
| 22:27.43 | dpkg | bar: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/foo.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/foo.exe |
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| 22:28.01 | citral | who wants to turn off dma? |
| 22:28.06 | simonrvn | could also flip the $2 and $1 to have similar effect of fgi |
| 22:28.09 | FieldySnuts | i wanted him to turn it on |
| 22:28.27 | gridbug | Huh. Go figure. New evolution-exchange package accepted today. :P |
| 22:28.27 | simonrvn | turn it on! woohoo! sexay!! |
| 22:28.29 | citral | hdparm -d1 /dev/hda |
| 22:28.34 | asg | simonrvn: it would probably be better to s/locate/l33tcate/ |
| 22:28.40 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 22:28.45 | pragma_ | FieldySnuts, clearly s/0/1/ to turn it on :/ |
| 22:28.54 | FieldySnuts | duh |
| 22:29.00 | citral | also hdparm for laptops is REALLY udefull |
| 22:29.03 | pragma_ | so the turn off tells you how to turn it on too |
| 22:29.05 | FarrisG | I'm using rdiff-backup, and I need to do something semi-weird: I have a directory with a bunch of similar subdirs, and each of those subdirs has several subdirs as well. I want to exclude any directories in the sub-subdirs, but any files (other than dirs) within the subdirs and sub-subdirs. |
| 22:30.41 | simonrvn | !l33tcate foo bar |
| 22:30.41 | dpkg | foo: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/bar.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/bar.exe |
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| 22:31.16 | simonrvn | citral: 'udefull'? |
| 22:31.31 | citral | dpkg: no, dma is (Direct Memory Access) PCs have DMA channels that allow certain devices to directly access memory in order to speed up the process. to turn on dma, hdparm -d1 /dev/hda. to make it permanent, edit /etc/hdparm.conf |
| 22:31.32 | asg | simonrvn: he has a broken nose apparently |
| 22:31.32 | dpkg | citral: okay |
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| 22:31.54 | simonrvn | even then it doesn't make sense :P |
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| 22:32.03 | citral | simonrvn: don't be so picky ;) |
| 22:32.08 | asg | simonrvn: s/ude/use/ |
| 22:32.08 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 22:32.15 | simonrvn | oh. duh |
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| 22:32.28 | simonrvn | !locate foo bar |
| 22:32.29 | dpkg | bar: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/foo.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/foo.exe |
| 22:33.06 | citral | simonrvn: I'm a french guy living in germany, and the keyboard is actually german. that's hard |
| 22:33.09 | simonrvn | flipped $2 and $1 for locate |
| 22:33.18 | simonrvn | !locate foo bar |
| 22:33.19 | dpkg | foo: ftp://127.0.0.1/upload/bar.exe and also ftp://warez.dal.net/operwarez/bar.exe |
| 22:33.22 | asg | !be expat barbie |
| 22:33.30 | citral | yeah |
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| 22:33.55 | citral | azerty vs qwertz |
| 22:34.01 | arthurnis | erk |
| 22:34.03 | asg | !be expat barbie is <reply>being a french guy living in germany, and the keyboard is actually german. that's HARD |
| 22:34.04 | dpkg | okay, asg |
| 22:34.04 | simonrvn | citral: be a kbd barbie ;p |
| 22:34.13 | citral | heh |
| 22:35.14 | citral | I'd prefer a us keyboard, to say how awfull it is |
| 22:35.20 | gridbug | FieldySnuts: ...in any case, yea. Evolution 2.2.2 is in Sid and evolution-exchange 2.2.2 was accepted today. |
| 22:35.34 | FieldySnuts | not my fault |
| 22:35.43 | gridbug | Worse things have happened. |
| 22:35.51 | citral | my typing speed - 40% |
| 22:35.55 | simonrvn | in what case? *any* case? lower, upper, alphanumeric even? |
| 22:36.08 | gridbug | simonrvn: your choice... they're all fine cases. |
| 22:36.11 | asg | suitcase? |
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| 22:36.28 | simonrvn | suitcase would be practical |
| 22:36.28 | citral | UPPER IS K0WL 1!!! |
| 22:36.35 | gridbug | asg: I dunno. That wasn't one of simon's choices. |
| 22:36.37 | simonrvn | LOLKTHXBYEZ |
| 22:36.50 | asg | gridbug: silent addition |
| 22:36.57 | simonrvn | i did say '*any*' |
| 22:37.00 | gridbug | ...ok.... maybe not upper case. |
| 22:37.57 | simonrvn | fucking experimental circular deps.... |
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| 22:40.26 | Vlat- | hi there |
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| 22:41.32 | simonrvn | where? |
| 22:42.03 | gridbug | am not! |
| 22:42.21 | simonrvn | hi? |
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| 22:42.29 | joserp | Hi! |
| 22:42.36 | simonrvn | lo? |
| 22:42.40 | gridbug | Hi there. |
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| 22:42.58 | simonrvn | lo where! |
| 22:43.02 | joserp | anyone know why I cannot change my envirom vars from a script? |
| 22:43.24 | mtnman | joserp: prollly cause the script has its own environment. |
| 22:43.27 | joserp | for example... if my script do: source /etc/profile my vars don't change |
| 22:43.44 | joserp | mtnman, is possible to do what I need? |
| 22:43.47 | Vlat- | two years ago it was much better |
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| 22:44.16 | ellobo | hi |
| 22:44.21 | mtnman | joserp: well, any changes to /etc/profile wouldn't show up until you open a new shell. |
| 22:44.26 | Ghostbuster | hi |
| 22:44.48 | ellobo | any idea how can i change the default (ugly sob) look and feel of gtk 1.x apps ? |
| 22:44.58 | FieldySnuts | no, that's just how gtk1 is |
| 22:45.04 | mtnman | joserp: i'm not sure if it is possible to do what you ask, because i don't understand your goal. |
| 22:45.08 | FieldySnuts | looks like shit even with themes |
| 22:45.14 | ellobo | FieldySnuts: true |
| 22:45.26 | joserp | mtnman, thanks, I think I have understand ;) |
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| 22:45.39 | mtnman | joserp: uh, you're welcome. |
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| 22:45.59 | simonrvn | poor mtnman is confuzzled |
| 22:46.13 | mtnman | simonrvn: that is easily done... |
| 22:46.28 | simonrvn | sometimes it's the question, you know ;) |
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| 22:47.04 | gridbug | Don't Panic? |
| 22:47.10 | simonrvn | kill -9 not good |
| 22:47.17 | ellobo | FieldySnuts: I had the impression if you run the gtk1 apps in gnome they look nice :) ... question is: how do they achieve it... |
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| 22:47.37 | simonrvn | gtk wizardry |
| 22:47.44 | ellobo | humm... |
| 22:47.51 | FieldySnuts | they do? new on me |
| 22:47.52 | ellobo | simonrvn: can you help ? |
| 22:47.54 | simonrvn | on that note, i GTG |
| 22:47.59 | simonrvn | no, i'm leaving |
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| 22:48.07 | ellobo | fair enough... |
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| 22:48.15 | gridbug | ellobo: you're sure you're not confusing gtk1 and gtk2 apps... or different gtk themes? |
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| 22:48.43 | ellobo | gridbug: hey... i use kde... i am just forced to use a couple of gtk1 apps |
| 22:48.50 | gridbug | (with a nod to FieldySnuts' observation about the limits of gtk1 themes :P) |
| 22:49.03 | simonrvn | should've been gone 0.5 hour ago, but the upgrade took longer than i thought *sigh* |
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| 22:49.13 | ellobo | gridbug: i don't think it could look uglier than this :) |
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| 22:49.32 | gridbug | ellobo: ...with the proper theme... it can get bad. :P |
| 22:49.55 | ellobo | gridbug: hum... i can't even change the f***ing font... |
| 22:50.08 | ellobo | gridbug: is that possible (at least) ? |
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| 22:50.27 | ellobo | when you use kde... what is the gtkrc file ? ~/.gtkrc ? |
| 22:50.36 | ellobo | or ~/.gtkrc-kde ? |
| 22:50.48 | ellobo | changed both ... no result |
| 22:51.08 | ellobo | i found also a ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc ... no result too... |
| 22:51.11 | gridbug | ellobo: you might want to look at gtk-engines-qtpixmap |
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| 22:54.34 | ellobo | s**t... you were right... it looks even uglier :) |
| 22:54.59 | gridbug | Heh. |
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| 22:57.32 | gridbug | ellobo: I use gtk2-engines-gtk-qt... but I don't think that'll affect gtk1 apps. |
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| 22:57.36 | Vlat- | sorry, power failure |
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| 22:59.06 | ellobo | gridbug: i just had to echo include "/usr/share/themes/Geramik/gtk/gtkrc" > ~/.gtkrc, after installing geramik |
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| 22:59.32 | ellobo | gridbug: now i am just strugling with the huge fonts prob :P |
| 22:59.44 | Vlat- | happy linux users :) |
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| 23:00.02 | gridbug | ellobo: ahh |
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| 23:00.33 | Vlat- | just try to imagine what's happening on VMS... %) |
| 23:00.33 | ellobo | gridbug: did this wich (of course) didn't work http://jamesclarke.info/notes/GtkFonts |
| 23:00.57 | valdyn | ellobo: gtk-theme-switch |
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| 23:03.14 | Vlat- | a question: there's a laptop. no boot prom, no cdrom, no floppy. is there any way to install linux to it excepting puting bootrom code by keyboard ? |
| 23:03.31 | abrotman | usb key |
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| 23:03.43 | gridbug | removing the HD? |
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| 23:03.46 | gridbug | :) |
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| 23:04.48 | ellobo | valdyn: antialiasing would be asking too much i suppose :) |
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| 23:04.56 | phillipsjk | Vlat-: Is window or similar installed? |
| 23:05.11 | abrotman | how do you get a laptop with no floppy or cd |
| 23:05.40 | stew | i have one |
| 23:05.46 | phillipsjk | You could try loadln |
| 23:05.48 | Vlat- | abrotman: no usb |
| 23:05.48 | stew | i had another but i gave it away |
| 23:05.51 | abrotman | stew: but it's X series? |
| 23:05.54 | stew | actually, no, i gave them both away |
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| 23:06.09 | stew | no, one was 600x, the other was some dell piece of crap i found in the trash |
| 23:06.12 | Vlat- | phillipsjk: only possible way - IBM boot loader by network |
| 23:06.16 | robert | Ehm, how do I override dependencies on Evil(tm) pkgs, like Java? |
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| 23:06.23 | abrotman | Vlat-: you mean PXE? |
| 23:06.29 | abrotman | stew: how was your ride? |
| 23:06.33 | stew | excellent |
| 23:06.35 | robert | Got the runtimes on the sys already, so I want a dummy pkg or something. |
| 23:06.35 | Vlat- | phillipsjk: nothing installed, it's clean |
| 23:06.47 | abrotman | Vlat-: no usb,no floppy, no cd |
| 23:06.51 | abrotman | !rube goldberg install |
| 23:06.51 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
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| 23:06.53 | shimano55 | dns21, It's almost like it's not trying to connect to wlan0, but when I run dmesg | grep wlan0 its up |
| 23:07.02 | stew | abrotman: wind was blowing in the favorable direction today, headwind on the downhill and tailwind on the uphill |
| 23:07.03 | Vlat- | phillipsjk: of course, i know i can get anything for it, cdrom, floppy, anything. But sport is a sport |
| 23:07.14 | abrotman | stew: heh .. |
| 23:07.34 | Vlat- | my idea: to load PXE to any machine in local network and boot from it |
| 23:07.58 | stew | Vlat-: pull the harddrive, put it in another machine and chroot install it there |
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| 23:08.15 | phillipsjk | Let me guess: the drives were too heavy for you? :) |
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| 23:08.25 | Vlat- | stew: i'll need to solder 2.5" to 3.5" connector board |
| 23:08.33 | stew | Vlat-: or just buy an adapter |
| 23:08.33 | Vlat- | it's hardware intrusion |
| 23:08.33 | ruied | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.38 | ruied | ? |
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| 23:08.45 | Vlat- | nono, installation is not a goal |
| 23:08.50 | stew | ruied: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 23:08.53 | abrotman | Vlat-: you can buy one |
| 23:08.59 | ruied | tx |
| 23:09.01 | abrotman | Vlat-: then why are you wasting our time? |
| 23:09.01 | Vlat- | the goal is trying to do impossible |
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| 23:09.22 | Vlat- | abrotman: hardering our brains :) |
| 23:09.43 | stew | Vlat-: drain the liquid from your skull and the brain will probably harden |
| 23:09.43 | abrotman | you mean wasting our time |
| 23:09.57 | Vlat- | abrotman: currently there're FreeBSD 4.11 installed |
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| 23:10.16 | abrotman | Vlat-: so why are you asking us ... apparently you got that installed ... |
| 23:10.22 | phillipsjk | Run linux under emulation then |
| 23:10.26 | Vlat- | abrotman: i've hacked the broken cd drive to read a few sectors from cd, as more as cd can |
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| 23:10.34 | jmd | Anyone got any recommendations for a simple non-caching http proxy. I need it to be dynamically configurable (ie. not have to restart it). |
| 23:10.44 | Vlat- | abrotman: it was enough to boot BSD installer |
| 23:10.46 | jmd | Oh and it must be in Stable. |
| 23:10.48 | abrotman | squid can be set not to cache |
| 23:10.58 | abrotman | Vlat-: then use PXE |
| 23:11.02 | Vlat- | abrotman: and to install bsd from ftp |
| 23:11.04 | jmd | abrotman: : Note the word "simple". |
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| 23:11.09 | stew | 19:05 < Vlat-> phillipsjk: nothing installed, it's clean 19:09 < Vlat-> abrotman: currently there're FreeBSD 4.11 installed |
| 23:11.13 | stew | damn that was a fast install |
| 23:11.16 | abrotman | jmd: apt-cache search http proxy |
| 23:11.36 | ellobo | how can i get the "-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-*-80-*-*-p-*-iso8859-15" code for "Bitstream Vera Sans" ? |
| 23:11.36 | abrotman | stew: troll! |
| 23:11.44 | Vlat- | abrotman: hacking was ths oscillograph + 1mm screwer |
| 23:11.46 | semi_ | ellobo: check out xfontsel |
| 23:12.00 | abrotman | idiot |
| 23:12.01 | stew | Vlat-: do you have a debian related question? |
| 23:12.04 | ellobo | semi_: true... but the ones i want aren't there |
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| 23:12.13 | jmd | abrotman: Yes I've done that. I wanted recommendations from people who may have tried some of them. |
| 23:12.17 | stew | Vlat-: if not, please move on... /j #freebsd perhaps |
| 23:12.25 | JeffWilson12 | Don't feed the trolls ;) |
| 23:12.45 | shimano55 | question, Which wireless cards have Linux support? |
| 23:12.51 | semi_ | when i hit alt+1 xterm gives a ± instead of having irssi switch windows.. whats the easiest way to fix this? |
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| 23:12.59 | ellobo | shimano55: ipw2100 is a good example |
| 23:13.01 | deadcat | tested out xorg on my ibook. vga works but lot of things dont, so i had to purge all packges and reinstall hehe |
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| 23:13.13 | deadcat | shimano55: lots. buy my orinoco golds (= |
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| 23:13.21 | Vlat- | stew: didn't wanted to angry Your, (becose debian user since 1997) |
| 23:13.29 | stew | shimano55: go to seattlewireless.net and search for the 2 pages with "ClientAdapter" in them |
| 23:13.37 | Vlat- | stew: but BSD was just an example |
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| 23:16.37 | spo0nman | how do i do while $x in `cat file` do something with $x in bash? |
| 23:16.47 | abrotman | huh? |
| 23:16.49 | lgd_ | hi all |
| 23:16.57 | waxboy | anyone famaliar with jmax or pd? |
| 23:17.04 | abrotman | spo0nman: oh .. |
| 23:17.09 | stew | spo0nman: for x in `cat file` ; do something with $a ; done |
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| 23:17.45 | spo0nman | stew, thankyou so what exactly is the difference between for and while in context of bash? |
| 23:18.06 | deadcat | spo0nman: cat file | while read line; do shit; done |
| 23:18.30 | stew | spo0nman: the biggest difference between for and while in bash is that stew has no idea how to do a while loop |
| 23:18.43 | deadcat | (= |
| 23:18.45 | abrotman | stew: good answer! |
| 23:18.48 | stew | :) |
| 23:18.50 | abrotman | spo0nman: you could ask #bash |
| 23:19.08 | cafuego | ellobo: xfontsel |
| 23:19.18 | ellobo | cafuego: ? |
| 23:19.19 | deadcat | of all days. today berkeley is slow like a bitch )= |
| 23:19.28 | stew | err s/x/a/ in my for loop of course |
| 23:19.34 | spo0nman | Stew, me too have no clue about while in bash... lets start a religion |
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| 23:19.48 | ellobo | cafuego: thanks any way :) |
| 23:19.49 | deadcat | spo0nman: shutup |
| 23:20.00 | stew | spo0nman: do i get to wear a funny hat? |
| 23:20.21 | Spundun | Hi all... question.. I just opened an itanium machine out of the shipping box.. its "hp enablement cd" had debian woody on it... how do I move it to testing? |
| 23:20.37 | stew | Spundun: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 23:20.38 | abrotman | !tell Spundun about woody->sarge |
| 23:20.38 | Spundun | I already saw the faq frontpage.. |
| 23:20.47 | Spundun | ok.. thanks alot |
| 23:20.55 | deadcat | spo0nman: you mean it came with woody? |
| 23:21.16 | deadcat | HAHAH |
| 23:21.22 | deadcat | abrotman: windows admins? |
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| 23:21.25 | abrotman | heh |
| 23:21.42 | stew | abrotman: maybe you are the kind of person that double checks before doing something like dist-upgrade :) |
| 23:21.50 | spo0nman | deadcat, what came with woody? |
| 23:22.04 | deadcat | spo0nman: you said the hp cd thing. |
| 23:22.04 | abrotman | stew: am i ... hrm .. don't think so |
| 23:22.05 | Spundun | deadcat: yeah.. it did.. I think |
| 23:22.10 | spo0nman | deadcat, no i didnt. |
| 23:22.12 | deadcat | hehe |
| 23:22.21 | abrotman | stew: we haven't had any "xxx borked in testing" lately though :) |
| 23:22.48 | abrotman | stew: are you on sid or sarge? |
| 23:23.01 | FieldySnuts | @lart that quit message |
| 23:23.11 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: good call :) |
| 23:23.18 | stew | abrotman: woody on all servers but 2, sarge on all other machines, sid/sarge mix on the ones that run myth |
| 23:23.24 | deadcat | goddang bitchx assholes |
| 23:23.25 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: irritate sussudio |
| 23:23.27 | dpkg | sussudio: Y iz debain so old? who uses dvd hello? |
| 23:23.30 | abrotman | stew: you use gnome/kde/somethingelse? |
| 23:23.30 | Spundun | Hmmm... apt-get install aptitude gives error "Couldnt find package aptitude" I might have skipped a step about something to do with "setting up sources" or something like that.. how do i get back to that? |
| 23:23.36 | stew | abrotman: ratpoison |
| 23:23.40 | abrotman | hrm .. nm |
| 23:23.57 | stew | Spundun: apt-setup |
| 23:24.04 | stew | Spundun: than apt-get update |
| 23:24.15 | abrotman | i need to find someone who has gnome .. and upgraded it from woody to sarge |
| 23:24.18 | Spundun | stew: thanks again |
| 23:24.44 | stew | abrotman: hmm, i think my wife's current machine |
| 23:24.56 | stew | abrotman: actually, nm, hers was a sarge install |
| 23:25.15 | abrotman | stew: yeah .. i've been trying to mess with gnomebaker .. but it dies a horrible death |
| 23:26.14 | Vlat- | abrotman: stdout to my msg pls |
| 23:26.26 | stew | abrotman: i'm not touching my wife's machine right now. the second she stops using it, its pubtime |
| 23:26.29 | stew | :) |
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| 23:26.35 | Vlat- | abrotman: had a problems in office with is a couple days ago |
| 23:26.56 | Spundun | apt-setup doesnt show the mirror at usc in its list.. :/.. but I thought there is one.. do I need to update that llist somehow? is there an automatic way of doing that? |
| 23:26.57 | deadcat | HAHAHAH |
| 23:27.07 | abrotman | stew: heh |
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| 23:27.16 | abrotman | Vlat-: i have no idea what you're talking about |
| 23:27.37 | stew | Spundun: man 5 sources.list ; editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 23:28.22 | Spundun | cool.. thanks |
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| 23:28.34 | samuel | sup all |
| 23:28.35 | tico | hello everybody, how can I enable the ide-scsi(scsi emulation) to all my recording hardware? |
| 23:28.46 | stew | tico: what does uname -r say? |
| 23:28.47 | deadcat | tico: what kernel? |
| 23:28.49 | Vlat- | abrotman: we had upgraded from woody to sarge, and our secretary use gnome |
| 23:28.53 | samuel | how can i mount a vfat partition so a normal user can write to it? |
| 23:29.00 | abrotman | Vlat-: ye s... but you're not at work are you? |
| 23:29.01 | deadcat | samuel: man 5 mount |
| 23:29.03 | streuner | tico: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 23:29.06 | abrotman | !tell samuel about vfatrw |
| 23:29.22 | Vlat- | abrotman: it was the question |
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| 23:29.25 | stew | samuel: i think he means man 1 mount |
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| 23:29.45 | Vlat- | abrotman: doesn't matter |
| 23:29.49 | abrotman | ok |
| 23:30.09 | samuel | deadcat, abrotman, stew: thanks |
| 23:30.09 | karsten | samuel: Create a "fatfs" group or such which users allowed access belong to. |
| 23:30.19 | karsten | samuel: ...in addition to the info in the factoid. |
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| 23:31.16 | deadcat | going back to xfree86 (= |
| 23:31.27 | samuel | karsten, thanks, im adding to the cdrom group |
| 23:31.28 | streuner | heh |
| 23:31.30 | karsten | deadcat: You tried x.org? |
| 23:31.36 | deadcat | karsten: you know it (= |
| 23:31.48 | karsten | deadcat: How was it / what rocked / sucked? |
| 23:31.54 | deadcat | forgot to dpkg --get-selections before xorg so i have to use my desktop's list )= |
| 23:32.11 | tico | 2.4.22-10mdk |
| 23:32.18 | karsten | samuel: OK. |
| 23:32.32 | streuner | !irritate tico |
| 23:32.32 | dpkg | tico: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol lol |
| 23:32.39 | deadcat | karsten: on the ibook, vga output/clone rocks, cant seem to switch to console sucked, some broken packges/dependencies sucked. |
| 23:32.43 | stew | i tried xorg and honestly couldn't find a difference other than x/XFree86Config-4/xorg.conf/ |
| 23:32.54 | deadcat | tico: that looks like a mdk? mandrake kernel? |
| 23:33.01 | tico | yap |
| 23:33.02 | abrotman | tico: you're in the wrong channel |
| 23:33.07 | karsten | deadcat: Losing console would massively suck. |
| 23:33.10 | deadcat | tico: #mandrake or #mandrava |
| 23:33.15 | deadcat | karsten: ya. |
| 23:33.17 | abrotman | mandriva |
| 23:33.20 | deadcat | (= |
| 23:33.25 | streuner | !mandriva |
| 23:33.31 | streuner | uhm |
| 23:33.35 | streuner | no entry |
| 23:33.37 | abrotman | !mandrake |
| 23:33.37 | dpkg | methinks mandrake is the old name of mandriva |
| 23:33.38 | karsten | streuner: mandriva == new mandrake |
| 23:33.47 | abrotman | yes ... we know |
| 23:33.49 | abrotman | but no entry |
| 23:33.53 | abrotman | ~mandrake |
| 23:33.54 | apt | somebody said mandrake was the best linux distro or the worst linux distro, or a plant that screams when you rip it out of the ground and kills you for removing it, or that guy who used to work for VA that is also doing that voice synth stuff |
| 23:33.54 | deadcat | tico: wrong channel bro |
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| 23:34.02 | karsten | dpkg: Mandriva is the new name (2005.04) of the merged Mandrake Linux and Connectiva Linux companies. |
| 23:34.03 | dpkg | karsten: okay |
| 23:34.04 | tico | sorry |
| 23:34.26 | deadcat | god bless debfoster to clean my laptop hehe |
| 23:34.45 | streuner | tico: just install debian |
| 23:34.48 | abrotman | karsten: wasn't it 3/2005 ? |
| 23:34.55 | streuner | !tell tico about d-i |
| 23:35.03 | karsten | abrotman: FIIK. Mod the factoid. |
| 23:35.19 | tico | ok |
| 23:35.19 | karsten | abrotman: 30 days delta's good enough for me. |
| 23:35.57 | deadcat | karsten: no more xorg for me until it comes out in sid (= |
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| 23:36.14 | deadcat | 2 try is enough for me |
| 23:36.27 | streuner | deadcat: as binaries? |
| 23:36.34 | karsten | abrotman: From WHOIS: reg_created: 2005-02-28 07:11:42 |
| 23:36.41 | streuner | deadcat: or did you use the debs? |
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| 23:37.08 | karsten | abrotman: ...and it's only a 12 mo reg. |
| 23:37.11 | cafuego | karsten: That name is somehow reminiscent of water logged cirtus fruits to me... |
| 23:37.17 | deadcat | streuner: the debs its for sarge though |
| 23:37.35 | abrotman | ok |
| 23:37.37 | karsten | cafuego: "mandrake" or "mandriva"? |
| 23:37.43 | cafuego | karsten: yes |
| 23:37.46 | cafuego | mandriva |
| 23:38.03 | karsten | cafuego: "mandriva" is sort of reminicscent of 1999 bogus-business-plan dot-com scams to me. |
| 23:38.26 | cafuego | karsten: Thats OK, I have no cash to invest <heh> |
| 23:38.31 | deadcat | !scrollkeeper |
| 23:38.36 | deadcat | do i need it? |
| 23:38.53 | karsten | cafuego: You should be so lucky. I've got negative cash to invest. |
| 23:39.06 | cafuego | deadcat: uninstall it and see what gets removed |
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| 23:39.23 | deadcat | cafuego: sgml-data docbook-xml will rmoved |
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| 23:39.59 | karsten | ObPoll: anyone running amd64 here? |
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| 23:40.33 | cafuego | karsten: me! me! me! |
| 23:40.43 | rixth | configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check <<<< how do I fix that? This is a brand new install. apt-get says cpp is current. I'km tryig to ./configure mysql |
| 23:40.54 | abrotman | why are you compiling mysql? |
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| 23:41.06 | cafuego | rixth: Why are you tnot running 'apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client' ? |
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| 23:41.21 | rixth | cafuego, Becasue this is how I want to do it. |
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| 23:41.36 | FlOb | can anyone help me out with samba? i tried #samba but no one responds or anything |
| 23:41.41 | cafuego | rixth: So you don't have a reason. Ok, won't help you then. |
| 23:41.42 | abrotman | rixth: then why use debian ? |
| 23:41.50 | karsten | cafuego: when'd you install it / how's it runnig? Doing AMD64 port? |
| 23:41.55 | rixth | Can I specify WHERE I want the package to install to? |
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| 23:42.13 | karsten | rixth: Read the makefile |
| 23:42.17 | abrotman | don't do that! |
| 23:42.49 | cafuego | karsten: I installed it in october last year with the alioth port. in January aliothw as on the verge of exploding, so i switched distros. it now runs Ubuntu/64 and runs it very well. |
| 23:42.51 | karsten | rixth: More to the point: build from source if you want, but don't expect #debian to support you there. |
| 23:43.12 | karsten | cafuego: Any noticable speed diff? Have you had ia32 on the same box? |
| 23:43.15 | rixth | It's not really to do with MySQL anyway. Look at the error, configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check, that's not MySQL-Specific. |
| 23:43.20 | cafuego | karsten: The one single issue I have with it, is that there is no win64 driver for the pci wifi card, so ndiswrapper won't work with it <heh> |
| 23:43.48 | cafuego | karsten: I haven't run Linux ia32 on it, no... 64 bit all the way. it's a win32 dual-boot though. |
| 23:44.01 | streuner | cafuego: its not necessary to mention that a other distro runs 'very well' - its important you are satisfied about debian... |
| 23:44.08 | karsten | cafuego: Um. Dual-boot to what? 'Doze? |
| 23:44.23 | karsten | cafuego: ...erm. Yeah, I see. |
| 23:44.28 | cafuego | karsten: Yeah; this box is also used for dvd duplication; I have 6 drives in here. |
| 23:44.53 | karsten | cafuego: Heh. 2 system, 2 DVD, what else? |
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| 23:45.35 | cafuego | karsten: I'm not sure there's much of a speed difference between 32bit and 64bit apps on this mahcine, not desktop apps anyway. i *do* know it runs a hell of a lot faster then an AthlonXP 2800+ (This is an Athlon64 2800+) |
| 23:46.07 | cafuego | karsten: So even if you want to run 32bit stuff, the amd64 cpu runs 32bit stuff a lot better then the 32bit cpu does. |
| 23:46.08 | Casanova | sorry I cant seem to find the answer - I have a sidewinder loaded. mods loaded joystick calibrates in K and in jscalibrator. Games are not accepting input though (tuxracer, tuxkart) |
| 23:46.11 | karsten | cafuego: Looking at a migration of an existing Sarge ia32 system to an AMD64. Which I realize I can't upgrade-in-place. Trying to balance +/- of going IA32 v. AMD64 on it. |
| 23:46.29 | karsten | cafuego: Interesting, that. Do you have an IA32 chroot? |
| 23:46.45 | cafuego | karsten: The $ price would be about the same for the hardware and the performance would do *WHEEE* I reckon. |
| 23:46.48 | abrotman | karsten: i believe you can upgrade in place |
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| 23:47.13 | karsten | cafuego: We've already got the HW. Trying to figure out what to do with it. |
| 23:47.19 | cafuego | karsten: yep, I have a 32bit chroot for openoffice and firefox/java. |
| 23:47.21 | karsten | abrotman: Not per docs, unless they're (shock!) out of date. |
| 23:47.33 | karsten | cafuego: Dig. |
| 23:47.37 | abrotman | karsten: you could ask .. gasp .. #debian-amd64 :) |
| 23:47.45 | cafuego | karsten: if it's just going to server (sql/mail/web/samba) you may as well go 64 |
| 23:47.49 | karsten | abrotman: *Nobody* can escape bob2. |
| 23:47.53 | karsten | abrotman: Dead channel mostly. |
| 23:48.02 | abrotman | karsten: i went to #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org .. there's bob2___ |
| 23:48.08 | karsten | cafuego: Shell server, services, terminal server. |
| 23:48.10 | abrotman | oh .. maybe just bob2__ :) |
| 23:48.29 | bob2 | eh? |
| 23:48.32 | cafuego | karsten: For what it's worth, it makes agreat xdmcp server too ;-) |
| 23:48.44 | abrotman | bob2: see me .. in #gnome-debian? :) |
| 23:48.53 | karsten | cafuego: I'm trying to avoid XDMCP. |
| 23:49.08 | abrotman | i guess that's a no |
| 23:49.12 | streuner | dpkg say: cafuego: its not necessary to mention that a other distro runs 'very well' - its important you are satisfied about debian... |
| 23:49.12 | dpkg | streuner: that's too long |
| 23:49.16 | streuner | fuck |
| 23:49.19 | cafuego | karsten: it's your friend! My crusty old celery runs openoffice as fast as an amd64 now ;-) |
| 23:49.22 | karsten | cafuego: ...insecure, school net. |
| 23:49.34 | karsten | cafuego: Tunnelled SSH. |
| 23:49.35 | cafuego | karsten: Ah school. School evil. |
| 23:49.43 | abrotman | bob2: i just wanted to know about the bug-buddy backtrace vs strace |
| 23:49.49 | cafuego | Well, school good, students evil. |
| 23:49.51 | karsten | cafuego: I actually had xine running over tunneled SSH X. Pretty damned slick. |
| 23:50.01 | anto9us | anyone here use zpsypgda? |
| 23:50.14 | karsten | cafuego: Turns out that 'ssh -X user@host cmd' is a valid xinit / startx client. |
| 23:50.35 | abrotman | anto9us: you missed a few consonants |
| 23:50.40 | karsten | cafuego: Actually, it's sorta mixed. Some of the kids are really great, and my contact w/ the school so far's been good. |
| 23:50.44 | cafuego | karsten: <heh> |
| 23:50.57 | cafuego | karsten: If 200 students all do that it might do poo, though. |
| 23:50.58 | anto9us | yeah, realised, but didn't want to flood and guessed people would know what I meant ;) |
| 23:51.16 | karsten | cafuego: We're looking at ~6 - 40 or so ATM. |
| 23:51.21 | cafuego | karsten: I do a little bit of work with schools here, but mainly remote admin of debian boxen. |
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| 23:51.35 | cafuego | karsten: tend to not have to be there when kids are present too. |
| 23:51.45 | karsten | cafuego: If I have to run XDMCP I will, but I'd prefer tunneling stuff. Or at least being able to. |
| 23:51.54 | karsten | cafuego: I enjoy classroom work, mostly. |
| 23:51.56 | abrotman | streuner: que ? |
| 23:52.03 | cafuego | karsten: ipsec? |
| 23:52.10 | Vlat- | 3 |
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| 23:52.17 | streuner | abrotman: i thought you are insterested in... |
| 23:52.28 | karsten | cafuego: Hrm. |
| 23:52.29 | streuner | abrotman: interested |
| 23:52.30 | pder | I TRY THE DEBIAN AND IT IS GOOD |
| 23:52.38 | karsten | cafuego: That might fit the bill... |
| 23:52.45 | streuner | pg: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 23:52.54 | streuner | pder: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 23:52.55 | karsten | pder: Try your capslock key as well. |
| 23:53.00 | abrotman | streuner: ok |
| 23:53.03 | Casanova | I can't seem to get tuxkart/tuxracer or other games to use the input from the joystick. I just added a js and it works in calibration etc. (sidewinder) have gameport and sidewinder modprobed |
| 23:53.08 | cafuego | karsten: it's nice and transparent. |
| 23:53.10 | abrotman | pder: knock it off .. that's the third time in a few days .. |
| 23:53.21 | pder | abrotman: that wasnt a troll |
| 23:53.28 | karsten | cafuego: Quick? |
| 23:53.31 | abrotman | pder: right |
| 23:53.32 | cafuego | karsten: It may or may not need an investment in a hardware random number generator, though. |
| 23:53.38 | anto9us | abrotman, the zpsycopgda in the apt list is for python 2.2, is there one for python 2.3 do you know,? I've installed psycopg for python 2.3. |
| 23:53.44 | cafuego | karsten: Dunno, I've not used it. |
| 23:53.52 | streuner | abrotman: i have here one grammar-book about english grammar, that's not bad, sadly i don't read it... |
| 23:53.53 | karsten | cafuego: Yeah. It solves the "clear-over-the-wire" problem. Not authentication, but that's not my concern. |
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| 23:54.07 | abrotman | streuner: you should give it to sgeigerbot :) |
| 23:54.11 | karsten | cafuego: It's opportunistic, right? |
| 23:54.17 | abrotman | anto9us: apt-cache search ? |
| 23:54.18 | streuner | abrotman: hehe |
| 23:54.29 | cafuego | karsten: as long as data won't go clear over the wire, it can authenticate in any way $NETWORKADMIN sees fit. Even nis! |
| 23:55.30 | karsten | cafuego: Yeah. I'm thinking ipsec w/ LTSP type stuff. |
| 23:56.18 | ryan` | that was fun |
| 23:57.04 | cafuego | karsten: By keeping the tunneling/encryption nice & low-level, you can pretty much run anything on top. |
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| 23:58.02 | Starfire | ok i installed kde and kdm, and set kdm as the default display manager (it gave me a choice between kdm and xdm...whatever xdm is lol) but now when i hit kdm-init it errors out saying "kde: aboting: $display not set." ....wtf? |
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| 23:58.33 | Spundun | question: I did /msg dpkg woody->sarge and one of the things in the mssage was a reccommendation for hotplug.. my question is, does hotplug work with kernel 2.4.* (my impression was that it only works with the 2.6.*) if not then shouldnt I first upgrade the kernel before installing hotplug, since aptitude dist-upgrade didnt upgraade my kernel? |
| 23:58.57 | Vlat- | Starfire: check for the ~root/.xinitrc |
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| 23:59.12 | Starfire | vlat: O_o? |
| 23:59.17 | Vlat- | Starfire: if it exists - re(name)move it |
| 23:59.19 | abrotman | Starfire: ignore :) |
| 23:59.26 | Starfire | abrotman lol |
| 23:59.33 | abrotman | Starfire: /etc/init.d/kdm restart does what ? |
| 23:59.42 | Starfire | 1 sec lemme try that |
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