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| 00:00.32 | Maxal | Hello! |
| 00:00.49 | silverton | sheit...two roots in a row >.< |
| 00:00.54 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 00:00.55 | bahamat | cafuego: um, ok I understand in theory that famd should be able to do this, but the man page gives no indicator that you can specify an arbitrary file to monitor, and just running `famd -f` produces no output when I modify a file |
| 00:01.02 | madclicker | what is the replacement for imap.rpm in debian? |
| 00:01.05 | Maxal | Where can I learn what partitions I need to create (filetype and primary/extended/logical or whatever exists) for DEBIAN ? |
| 00:01.12 | FieldySnuts | @badger *!*root@* |
| 00:01.19 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: hi |
| 00:01.19 | ravenbird | hello, fieldysnuts |
| 00:01.20 | dvs | madclicker: uw-imap |
| 00:01.29 | Talnakh_ | Maxal, http://www.debian.org |
| 00:02.14 | madclicker | dvs: i tried installing it but there is no /usr/sbin/ipop3d |
| 00:02.34 | Maxal | Talnakh_, do you have any more exact link? |
| 00:03.22 | dvs | madclicker: There is in mine (it's uw-imapd) |
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| 00:03.35 | Talnakh_ | Maxal, usually 2 partitions are enough. SWAP and / . For / u can use whole bunch of partitions if it is Sarge |
| 00:04.06 | Maxal | Talnakh_, both primary? |
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| 00:04.53 | Talnakh_ | Sarge will do it for you. it has good partition setup utility |
| 00:05.09 | Maxal | what is Sarge? |
| 00:05.12 | Maxal | I wanted debian |
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| 00:05.17 | Talnakh_ | Debian Sarge |
| 00:05.25 | dvs | !tell Maxal about sarge |
| 00:05.27 | Hydroxide | Maxal: sarge is the upcoming version of Debian |
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| 00:05.29 | Maxal | is this the version after woody? |
| 00:05.32 | Hydroxide | Maxal: yes |
| 00:05.35 | Maxal | ah cool |
| 00:05.39 | wad_ | Sarge still hasn't been fully "stabalized" ? Jesus. :) |
| 00:05.53 | wad_ | I remember downloading that 2 years ago and it ran like a champ |
| 00:05.56 | Talnakh_ | AH, who cares. Sarge is quite good and stable |
| 00:06.14 | wad_ | That's what I'm saying. |
| 00:06.18 | wad_ | But it has been forever. |
| 00:06.24 | Maxal | I did a knoppix-harddrive-installation this morning and just wondered if a "normal" Debian is better? |
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| 00:06.39 | silverton | Maxal, more then likely |
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| 00:06.51 | Maxal | silverton, why? |
| 00:07.17 | silverton | sounded good to me ^_^ |
| 00:07.21 | Gozar | cheal: /etc/mozilla-thunderbird/global-config.js have not been touched |
| 00:07.26 | cg0def | hi, I need to switch hdds and I was wondering what would be the best way to move all my stuff from this hdd to the other? Is there any program designed to do that Or I have to do it all by hand/ |
| 00:08.03 | Maxal | I fear that it will be hard to set up everything I need |
| 00:08.04 | silverton | cg0def, partition magic? I think they have a floppy disc version |
| 00:08.10 | dabreegster | cg0def: it's not that hard, probably just mount the new drive on /foo or whatever and cp -R /highlvel_directories |
| 00:08.12 | Maxal | the sound ... the graphical X |
| 00:08.47 | dongli | 各位好啊。新来的。正在调试xchat呢 |
| 00:09.04 | cg0def | dabreegster: it's not that easy because when you have / mounter you don't have access to all the dirs (well with reiserfs and my setup) |
| 00:09.11 | Talnakh_ | Maxal, apt-get will help you |
| 00:09.19 | cg0def | silverton: partion magic does not read reiserfs |
| 00:09.31 | dabreegster | cg0def: I dunno then |
| 00:09.32 | obtix | ok, i am determined there is a problem in kernel 2.6.11.8 so can someone random person please tell me the newest kernel release that they have with a mounted working vfat partition?! :-) |
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| 00:09.40 | dongli | 怎么全是英文啊 |
| 00:09.44 | madclicker | dvs: where is your ipop3d file? |
| 00:09.47 | Talnakh_ | And if you are afraid install SuSE, RED HAT or Centos and leave Debian for now. |
| 00:10.02 | Maxal | does Debian Sarge start graphical after installing? |
| 00:10.08 | cg0def | dabreegster: well there are low level tools that maxtor and WD have but I wanted to use something faster. oh well |
| 00:10.14 | xophEr | Maxal, yes |
| 00:10.29 | xophEr | if you install X |
| 00:10.41 | Maxal | and then I need to configure it? |
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| 00:10.44 | dvs | madclicker: That is a different package, ipopd |
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| 00:11.03 | madclicker | dvs: so what does uw-imapd does? |
| 00:11.20 | silverton | Maxal, normally, all of that is set up for you |
| 00:11.21 | Maxal | xophEr, what may I do when I do not know my graphic card? |
| 00:11.21 | dvs | madclicker: Give you IMAP mail |
| 00:11.24 | xophEr | Maxal, well to your needs yes, but it should fire up just fine with defaults too |
| 00:11.41 | xophEr | Maxal, dig deeper :) |
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| 00:11.55 | Gozar | cheal: Thanks for your help. At least I have some options to try out now. |
| 00:11.57 | _me_ | !x11 |
| 00:11.57 | dpkg | hmm... x11 is a protocol used by X servers and clients X11 stands for the eleventh version of the X window system. |
| 00:12.03 | xophEr | eg. open the case and check it out that way |
| 00:12.03 | madclicker | dvs: can you tell me please what pop3 server i can use for debian sarge? please i am tearing my hair out |
| 00:12.07 | challenged | just so anybody who cared knew....smp on hyperthreading does run better for me in a VM..... |
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| 00:12.21 | _me_ | !sarge |
| 00:12.21 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the current testing release code-name, and will be 3.1 when it's released. Ask me about <d-i> to get the installer. |
| 00:12.30 | abrotman | _me_: use /msg |
| 00:12.32 | dvs | madclicker: I'm using ipopd but people say it ain't good. They prefer courier |
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| 00:12.40 | gravity | heh, I like that one |
| 00:12.58 | obtix | ok, i am determined there is a problem in kernel 2.6.11.8 so can someone random person please tell me the newest kernel release that they have with a mounted working vfat partition?! :-) |
| 00:13.00 | _me_ | k |
| 00:13.20 | challenged | 2.6.8 working |
| 00:13.30 | dvs | obtix: Mine has always worked |
| 00:13.35 | madclicker | dvs: oh shiat, am going to go and jump off a bridge...... |
| 00:13.39 | obtix | challenged: thank you, we have a winner :) |
| 00:13.45 | obtix | dvs: what kernel are you running? |
| 00:13.54 | dvs | obtix: 2.6.11.7 |
| 00:14.07 | silverton | cg0def, oh :x thought it did all partition types |
| 00:14.24 | obtix | dvs: then possibly it is a problem with 2.6.11.8 only, do you have a working mounted vfat partition? |
| 00:14.45 | dvs | obtix: I can mount it right now and see if it works. |
| 00:14.48 | abrotman | obtix: why don't you ask #kernel |
| 00:14.50 | challenged | what should i modprobe for ide harddisks? |
| 00:14.55 | Gozar | Is this bad? I get this while running dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-thunderbird: "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." |
| 00:15.06 | dvs | obtix: It seems fine to me |
| 00:15.07 | obtix | dvs: that would be cool... |
| 00:15.15 | obtix | abrotman: ill try there now |
| 00:15.21 | challenged | gozar: haha welcome to the locale headaches |
| 00:15.40 | dvs | challenged: If linux is on an IDE disk, you shouldn't have to |
| 00:16.01 | Gozar | challenged: Thanks :-) |
| 00:16.09 | abrotman | obtix: or use a debian packaged kernel |
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| 00:16.22 | challenged | dvs: scsi disk install just popped an IDE to pull data off but no /dev devices found |
| 00:16.30 | challenged | dvs: ide cdroms come up no probs |
| 00:16.44 | obtix | abrotman whats the newest desbian packaged kernel? |
| 00:17.20 | dvs | challenged: So you need ide-storage? |
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| 00:17.29 | abrotman | obtix: dunno ,. but i bet it works better than yours :) |
| 00:17.31 | challenged | dvs i guess so....hmm module not found 8( |
| 00:17.36 | abrotman | newest!=best |
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| 00:18.19 | obtix | abrotman i dunno, i am going to try dvs current kernel 2.6.11.7 maybe its just a bug in 2.6.11.8 it is really new and all |
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| 00:18.58 | dvs | challenged: Try ide-disk |
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| 00:19.46 | dvs | obtix: I doubt it since 2.6.11.8 should just be some little fixes |
| 00:19.56 | abrotman | obtix: duh . use a debian kernel |
| 00:20.00 | abrotman | !custom kernel |
| 00:20.00 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD" |
| 00:20.17 | Maxal | Where can I get the sarge ISO Images please (no torrent!!) I tried: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 00:20.23 | Maxal | but thats not sarge imho |
| 00:20.27 | challenged | dvs: 8) thx |
| 00:20.33 | dvs | challenged: np |
| 00:21.53 | bloom | Maxal: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 00:22.06 | madclicker | can anyone tell me where can i get "imap-2004" for debian |
| 00:22.07 | madclicker | ? |
| 00:22.13 | bloom | Maxal: they're not the latest packages though |
| 00:22.38 | Gozar | Any help with the locales? Or Is that "normal"? |
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| 00:23.03 | bloom | Maxal: it's general practice not to generate iso's of testing, until right before we're ready to release the installer. in general, use jigdo |
| 00:23.42 | Maxal | bloom: stop *g* |
| 00:23.49 | serialkiller | i have superserver 6013a-t and i have everything running in 2.4 smp kernel when i try to install kernel-image2.6 smp it goes into kerl panic on reboot, say cant find de/console |
| 00:23.52 | serialkiller | any ideas? |
| 00:23.53 | Maxal | so the ISO's are not complete? |
| 00:23.56 | Maxal | @ bloom |
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| 00:25.09 | phigan | Maxal: I never have good luck with full iso's. I use the net installer off that site bloom linked |
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| 00:25.42 | bloom | Maxal: yeah. complete iso's are a waste of time, because Debian is so big |
| 00:26.09 | Maxal | ok and this jigdo can create an ISO image later? |
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| 00:27.32 | serialkiller | anyone use raid? |
| 00:27.35 | serialkiller | what is best kind to use |
| 00:27.36 | serialkiller | ? |
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| 00:27.59 | Gnea | !nvidia |
| 00:28.00 | dpkg | methinks nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 00:28.08 | serialkiller | !raid |
| 00:28.08 | dpkg | i guess raid is Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks, the opposite of SLED, or what master.debian.org doesn't have See also: raid {0-5}, or http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/, or see http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/markeditorial.html?prodkey=quick_explanation_of_raid |
| 00:28.09 | Maxal | why do I need Sarge at all? Whats wrong with the stable version? |
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| 00:28.24 | serialkiller | !raid0 |
| 00:28.24 | dpkg | methinks raid0 is the wrong choice, the worst solution of several options to solve the same problem (see lvm). It is also a misnomer, since the R of RAID is for Redundant, and RAID0 isn't. |
| 00:28.30 | vladster | wow, what a crowd |
| 00:28.37 | serialkiller | lol |
| 00:28.41 | reto_ | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/dEYHMH46.html ... does somebody need a script like this one :)? |
| 00:29.07 | vladster | is anyone familiar with wine and ventrillo? |
| 00:29.15 | dabreegster | Maxal: it's a bit outdated |
| 00:29.19 | Gnea | !crowd |
| 00:29.19 | dpkg | crowd is probably yes, a crowd indeed |
| 00:29.30 | dabreegster | Maxal: a new stable version will be released, supposedly, in a while |
| 00:29.37 | dabreegster | op! |
| 00:29.55 | Maxal | I cannot figure out how jidgo works |
| 00:30.05 | challenged | dvs: do i need to do anything to make that modprobe ide-disk automaically happen on boot? |
| 00:30.06 | Maxal | and I really just wand a normal ISO image which works |
| 00:30.07 | Maxal | http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/ |
| 00:30.10 | Maxal | only 105 MB |
| 00:30.20 | Maxal | and the netinstall won't work I guess when I am not online |
| 00:30.20 | dvs | challenged: echo ide-disk >> /etc/modules |
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| 00:30.36 | dabreegster | Maxal: Correct |
| 00:30.52 | challenged | dvs: hehe cool learnt something today 8) |
| 00:30.57 | Maxal | is there no ISO image of 700 MB or something like that? |
| 00:31.28 | dabreegster | Maxal: you can get weekly generated ISOs of sarge, but youll end up downloading as much. Netinstall is easier |
| 00:31.33 | server | reto_: nice sort |
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| 00:32.06 | Maxal | dabreegster, what does "end up downloading" mean? I do not understand this sentence |
| 00:32.45 | dabreegster | Maxal: there are ISOs with all the packages in em. They're huge files and there are at least 6 ISOs I think. |
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| 00:32.59 | dvs | dabreegster: Try at least twice that |
| 00:33.01 | Qamly | Anybody know why a XP box can see a linux box just fine, but the linux box can only see the XP box, and any attempt at connection is access denide. Keeps asking for passwords even though everything is correct. ?? |
| 00:33.09 | Maxal | hum |
| 00:33.09 | challenged | Maxal: 700 Mb iso = probably not going to use most of the data you download.....100Mb iso = download only what you need |
| 00:33.16 | dabreegster | Maxal: You would download the packages if you got all the ISOs. Easier to netinstall if you'd do that. |
| 00:33.21 | shimano55 | Question, Is there something special I have to download to be able to encode ogg's? |
| 00:33.41 | dvs | sox? |
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| 00:33.49 | dabreegster | shimano55: apt-cache search ogg |
| 00:33.54 | ryan` | !raid5 |
| 00:33.54 | dpkg | from memory, raid5 is see raid or http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/markeditorial.html?prodkey=quick_explanation_of_raid |
| 00:34.04 | challenged | Qamly: its called NT authentication issues: goto #samba for best info |
| 00:34.04 | Maxal | ok, when I use netinstaller, can I use ifconfig to connect to the internet before doing the netinstallation? |
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| 00:34.25 | challenged | Maxal: yes |
| 00:34.31 | Qamly | I was at that channel, and nobody home/alive/talking... :( |
| 00:34.41 | dabreegster | Maxal: in the netinstall it'll usually see the network automagically |
| 00:34.41 | dvs | Maxal: It will ask to try DHCP first. |
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| 00:34.42 | challenged | Maxal: its a live CD....you can swap to alt-f2 run commands etc |
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| 00:35.11 | IDC | root____--, relog in irc with a normal user account |
| 00:35.19 | Maxal | and then, when I am online, what happens then? Will it automatically do everything I need? |
| 00:35.39 | abrotman | challenged: how the hell could you do it before the installation starts?: |
| 00:35.40 | dvs | Maxal: It will download the packages you selected |
| 00:35.44 | shimano55 | dabreegster, How does that help? there are TONS of them.. |
| 00:35.48 | abrotman | and it's not a liveCD either |
| 00:36.18 | dabreegster | shimano55: I dunno, I'm not thinking clearly |
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| 00:36.54 | abrotman | shimano55: libvorbis i think |
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| 00:37.22 | challenged | abrotman: have i got my installers crossed? it boots to a live environment then runs a script to do the install yah? |
| 00:37.22 | Maxal | dvs, I think this will be difficult at all? |
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| 00:37.26 | Angelo- | Is there a list of packages I should exclude when doing apt-build workd? |
| 00:37.32 | Angelo- | world |
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| 00:37.57 | dvs | Maxal: It depends what your connection to the internet is. If it's a router or an office LAN, it's a piece of cake |
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| 00:38.26 | abrotman | challenged: it's not a liveCD |
| 00:38.51 | Maxal | dvs, its a connection which requires me setting a route (default gateway) and my own IP address in IFCONFIG |
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| 00:38.59 | Maxal | dvs, then I am online |
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| 00:39.05 | n0op | where can i find a guide for debian commands? |
| 00:39.12 | abrotman | challenged: you couldn't start the network before your NIC is detected .. some are built in .. some need detected/modprobed |
| 00:39.13 | dvs | Maxal: That's easy too |
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| 00:39.14 | challenged | abrotman: yeah not in the sense of having running apps but it is live in the sense of linus running an installer not an installer only |
| 00:39.20 | abrotman | !tell n0op about refcard |
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| 00:39.25 | n0op | tanks |
| 00:39.42 | abrotman | challenged: it's not good for much else .. have you tried to use it for anything but installing/rescuing ? |
| 00:39.43 | Maxal | dvs, so what may I download now for the netinstall? |
| 00:39.57 | dvs | Maxal: One netinstall CD |
| 00:40.09 | challenged | abrotman: yeah true but thats all hes asking to do hehehe |
| 00:40.27 | Maxal | dvs, there are many |
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| 00:40.29 | challenged | abrotman: not disagreeing just making sure it's in my head right.... |
| 00:40.31 | abrotman | challenged: apparently you've forgotten his original question already |
| 00:40.37 | abrotman | !d-i Maxal |
| 00:40.38 | dpkg | Maxal, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 00:40.48 | abrotman | Maxal: the 105MB netinst image for i386 |
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| 00:41.08 | dvs | Maxal: Or whatever your architecture is |
| 00:41.30 | Ugly_Duck | how do you go about tracking how much data a user/ip has downloaded from the internet but not the intranet? |
| 00:41.41 | abrotman | IP accounting on your router ? |
| 00:41.49 | challenged | abrotman: where can i get the latest ISO for sarge ...no torrent ??? |
| 00:41.50 | Maxal | ok, which one? |
| 00:41.51 | Maxal | http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/ |
| 00:42.02 | anhi | Ugly_Duck: if he is diald in to the internet just check the traffic for the according interface |
| 00:42.04 | Ugly_Duck | abrotman: ahh... right, is there a particular package to use? |
| 00:42.09 | abrotman | challenged: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 00:42.21 | abrotman | Ugly_Duck: not sure .. google "IP bandwidth accounting |
| 00:42.22 | abrotman | " |
| 00:42.25 | Ugly_Duck | he's connect to the lan |
| 00:42.31 | Ugly_Duck | via utp cable |
| 00:42.40 | Wyzard | Ugly_Duck: apt-cache show ipac-ng |
| 00:42.41 | abrotman | Maxal: how did you get lost ? |
| 00:42.53 | Ugly_Duck | Wyzard: thanks |
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| 00:43.01 | abrotman | Maxal: it's the first line basically |
| 00:43.07 | abrotman | netinst CD image, with Debian base |
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| 00:43.13 | abrotman | get the i386 one |
| 00:43.14 | Wyzard | Ugly_Duck: Note that I've never used it myself... just found it with "apt-cache search ip account" |
| 00:43.30 | Angelo- | has anyone here tried apt-build world? |
| 00:43.33 | Ugly_Duck | Wyzard: ahh... right, okies |
| 00:43.48 | IDC | After i upgraded from woody to sarge,without touching the kernel,now the folders and files are dyed different colors,how come ? i mean i like the way it is |
| 00:43.49 | abrotman | Angelo-: that doesn't exist |
| 00:43.54 | Maxal | My problem is: I do not know which one I should pick: |
| 00:43.54 | Maxal | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.55 | Maxal | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.55 | Maxal | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.55 | Maxal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:44.05 | abrotman | idiot |
| 00:44.07 | Angelo- | what do you mean it doesn't exist? |
| 00:44.09 | abrotman | !d-i Maxal |
| 00:44.10 | dpkg | Maxal, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 00:44.26 | abrotman | go right there! .. the netinst CD image, with Debian base line .. pick hte i386 one .. what's so fucking hard about that ? |
| 00:44.35 | dvs | Maxal: One of those first links under the "Installing sarge with the Debian-Installer" heading |
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| 00:44.41 | IDC | I do remember after i have recompiled kernel,this features's gone |
| 00:44.58 | Wyzard | IDC: The kernel has nothing to do with colored output from "ls" |
| 00:45.11 | IDC | what do i do to keep it that to let folders and files dyed different colors like right now |
| 00:45.24 | n0op | can i get a list of available packages? |
| 00:45.30 | abrotman | Angelo-: why would you do that ? |
| 00:45.30 | IDC | Wyzard, yeah,i didn't touch kernel |
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| 00:45.45 | dabreegster | IDC: try eval `lscolors` |
| 00:45.46 | abrotman | n0op: yes |
| 00:45.52 | abrotman | Angelo-: i was mistaken . it does exist . but why would you want to? |
| 00:46.08 | Maxal | ok I see |
| 00:46.10 | Maxal | thank you |
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| 00:46.30 | Maxal | can I start from CD then and remove all the existing partitions and format the harddrive too? |
| 00:46.32 | IDC | bash: lscolors: command not found |
| 00:46.35 | Angelo- | the same reason you use apt-build for everything else |
| 00:46.35 | n0op | abrotman: where would i find that info? |
| 00:46.47 | dvs | Maxal: Yup. You can do that during the install |
| 00:46.51 | Wyzard | IDC: It's usually done with an alias in your ~/.bash_profile which which causes 'ls' to be called with the '--color' option |
| 00:47.09 | Maxal | ok then it should be easy |
| 00:47.11 | Maxal | thank you |
| 00:47.31 | gravity | !tell Maxal about away |
| 00:47.56 | abrotman | n0op: /var/lib/dpkg/available |
| 00:48.05 | abrotman | n0op: don't screw up the file |
| 00:48.06 | IDC | Wyzard, hmmm,in ~/.bash_profile there doesn't have it |
| 00:48.28 | MidgetSpy | hey guys I'm using d-i rc3 and it's trying to detect my network hardware. I have a 3c905 in it but when I try loading the 3c59x (which says it's for 3c9xx also) driver it says no ethernet card was detected. what can I do to troubleshoot this? |
| 00:48.35 | n0op | ok thanks again |
| 00:49.01 | obtix | where is a website on installing a kernel the debian way? |
| 00:49.03 | abrotman | is it ISA ? |
| 00:49.09 | Wyzard | MidgetSpy: 3c59x is the correct driver for a 3c905 -- I'm using one right now -- but I can't think of why the module would fail to detect the card |
| 00:49.10 | MidgetSpy | PCI |
| 00:49.12 | abrotman | obtix: compiling or installing ? |
| 00:49.19 | dvs | !tell obtix about kp |
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| 00:49.30 | abrotman | dvs: i think he wants a normal debian kernel |
| 00:49.31 | IDC | Wyzard, oh your right,in ~/.bashrc :) there is a 'source ~/.bashrc" in bash_profile though,thanks |
| 00:49.38 | MidgetSpy | ok thanks for the confirmation Wyzard... maybe I'll try reseating it and rebooting |
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| 00:49.38 | dvs | oh. sorry |
| 00:49.47 | abrotman | obtix: compiling or installing ? |
| 00:49.52 | dvs | obtix: apt-cache search kernel-image |
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| 00:49.59 | Ry12 | are knoppix and sarge basically the same? |
| 00:50.02 | abrotman | no |
| 00:50.09 | dvs | !smite Ry12 |
| 00:50.15 | obtix | abrotman installing? but the debian way, how do i specefy what i want? |
| 00:50.18 | Ry12 | ? |
| 00:50.22 | Ry12 | whats the dif |
| 00:50.25 | gravity | Ry12: Definitely not |
| 00:50.35 | abrotman | obtix: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 .. find the one you want ... apt-get install it |
| 00:50.51 | abrotman | Ry12: it's not debian .. debian is debian |
| 00:50.57 | abrotman | !based on debian |
| 00:50.58 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 00:51.00 | server | ubuntu is one-love |
| 00:51.02 | gravity | Ry12: Knoppix takes Debian and reworks it to their liking. Some things are the same, some are different |
| 00:51.02 | Wyzard | Ry12: Knoppix is based on Debian, but has had a number of changes made relative to Debian |
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| 00:51.24 | Wyzard | Ry12: People in #knoppix would probably be better able to tell you about the differences |
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| 00:51.33 | abrotman | if any are awake this week |
| 00:51.35 | Ry12 | i found this : Knoppix's hard-drive installer has progressed, it has become known as the quickest and easiest way to obtain a Debian testing/unstable installation. thats why i asked |
| 00:51.38 | server | ya..dont ask in #deb unless you want more smiting |
| 00:51.54 | Wyzard | Ry12: D-I RC3 works just fine IMO |
| 00:51.55 | gravity | Ry12: The new Debian Installer is very nice |
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| 00:52.02 | abrotman | Ry12: they lie! |
| 00:52.02 | server | sarges installer is nice |
| 00:52.09 | sun_ | hi how do i get cjk in mozilla |
| 00:52.16 | sun_ | firefox |
| 00:52.21 | gravity | Ry12: A lot of work has gone in to it. Ubuntu is using it as well and gets great reviews for the install process. |
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| 00:52.43 | gravity | Granted... they've tweaked their X config stuff nicely, but that'll get back to Debian in time. |
| 00:52.52 | abrotman | gravity: just wait til sarge releases .. and the slashdot morons say we stole the ubuntu installer :) |
| 00:52.53 | Ry12 | im just gona install knoppix it came with my linux-format dvd and i wont have to dl all the softrware |
| 00:53.01 | gravity | abrotman: I hope not |
| 00:53.06 | abrotman | it will .. you wait :) |
| 00:53.13 | gravity | Ry12: Then ask for help in #knoppix, not here please |
| 00:53.14 | server | lol |
| 00:53.16 | Wyzard | Ry12: That's fine, but don't ask in #debian if you have problems with it |
| 00:53.20 | gravity | Ry12: We don't do knoppix in here |
| 00:53.30 | abrotman | !do gravity |
| 00:53.39 | server | thats fine..then deb folks can remind them where ubuntu came from and why a fork is a bad idea, anyways |
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| 00:53.40 | jeff_ | hey i was wondering if someone could give me some newbie help with a burner? I tried googling it but couldnt understand any of the help there. I have an entry in fstab and all that, can mount it, but i cant figure out hot to burn to it. I was toldby a friend that i needed a gui burning program, but dont know what that means. Can anyone help? |
| 00:54.00 | abrotman | jeff_: which gui are you using now? |
| 00:54.04 | jeff_ | none |
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| 00:54.12 | server | xcdroast is nice |
| 00:54.16 | jeff_ | i dont know what one is ;( |
| 00:54.21 | obtix | ok before i do the debian way let me just verify the fat stuff for 2.6.11.8 under filesystem then dos/fat/nt filesystems i load msdos fs support vfat fs support and default codepage is 437 and the default iochatset for fat is iso8859-1... is there anything else in the kernel i need to mount a fat partition? |
| 00:54.25 | server | apt-cache search xcdroast |
| 00:54.27 | abrotman | jeff_: does everything start with a K or a G ? |
| 00:54.35 | gravity | nautilus's internal cd burning thingy has gotten nice for some things |
| 00:54.36 | abrotman | xcdroast is horrible for a newbie |
| 00:54.37 | Wyzard | obtix: That should be all you need |
| 00:54.41 | server | LOL |
| 00:54.47 | server | cdrecord? |
| 00:54.51 | server | K or G..good one |
| 00:54.56 | Ry12 | no1 answeing my qustions in knopix |
| 00:54.56 | dabreegster | try arson |
| 00:55.02 | gravity | Ry12: Tough luck |
| 00:55.04 | Ry12 | does knppix have atp? |
| 00:55.07 | abrotman | we don't do knoppix here |
| 00:55.10 | abrotman | ask them |
| 00:55.11 | jeff_ | i tried to figure it out with xcdroast, but couldnt figure it out. i was gonna modify modules.conf to get the scsi emulation going, but the prompt warned me not to |
| 00:55.12 | dabreegster | jeff_: arson is very newbie friendly |
| 00:55.13 | server | lol |
| 00:55.13 | gravity | Ry12: Don't know, don't care |
| 00:55.17 | shimano55 | Question, I have the libvorbis packages installed, but whenever I try to run "oggenc -o %o --artist %{artist} --album %{albumtitle} --title %{title} --date %{year} --tracknum %{number} --genre %{genre} %f" for the command line of the encoder in kaudiocreator, I get this error: "The selected encoder was not found. |
| 00:55.17 | shimano55 | The wav file has been removed. Command was: oggenc -o '/home/shimano55/Music/Feeder/Comfort In Sound/Feeder - Just The Way I'\''m Feeling.ogg' --artist 'Feeder' --album 'Comfort In Sound' --title 'Just The Way I'\''m Feeling' --date '2003' --tracknum '01' --genre 'Rock' '/tmp/kde-shimano55/kaudiocreatorRVpm0b.wav'". Can anyone help? |
| 00:55.18 | gravity | (don't even know what atp is) |
| 00:55.19 | abrotman | jeff_: k or g ? |
| 00:55.25 | Ry12 | apt |
| 00:55.34 | abrotman | Ry12: we do not support knoppix |
| 00:55.38 | abrotman | !tell Ry12 about d-i |
| 00:55.38 | jeff_ | abrotman: k or g? what? |
| 00:55.45 | gravity | shimano55: Try installing vorbis-tools |
| 00:55.47 | server | lol! |
| 00:55.51 | abrotman | jeff_: do all your applicatiions start with a K or a G ? |
| 00:55.53 | server | i need popcorn |
| 00:56.03 | abrotman | !popcon |
| 00:56.03 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 00:56.05 | sun_ | anyone know how to get firefox to print chinese or korean characters |
| 00:56.14 | jeff_ | abrotman: in reference to kde or gnome? |
| 00:56.24 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:56.24 | jeff_ | abrotman: using fluxbox |
| 00:56.33 | gravity | sun_: You may have better luck asking in #mozilla or something :-\ |
| 00:56.40 | abrotman | oh .. lovely .. pick from arson,k3b,gnomebaker .. |
| 00:56.56 | gravity | graveman looks pretty nice |
| 00:57.06 | server | cdrecord -v speed=24 dev=0,0,0 something.iso |
| 00:57.08 | jeff_ | abrotman: arson you say? thanks alot man for your help |
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| 00:57.20 | server | thats easy on the eyes |
| 00:57.21 | abrotman | jeff_: or k3b or gnomebaker |
| 00:57.35 | abrotman | or try them all |
| 00:57.38 | abrotman | eroaster is nice too |
| 00:57.44 | jeff_ | abrotman: ok, thanks. hopefully ill be able to figure this out |
| 00:57.50 | abrotman | np |
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| 00:58.52 | jeff_ | abrotman: i still cant understand why i couldnt do it from the command line. it went through everything, and said that it was done, but the cd came out blank |
| 00:58.54 | DeFuEgO | anyone know why dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ any package Verification errors ?? |
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| 00:59.17 | jeff_ | abrotman: "cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd track1 track2" |
| 01:00.08 | abrotman | jeff_: i've never used cdrecord for music tracks .. but mkisofs would probably help |
| 01:00.11 | DeFuEgO | and I can't install any packages unless i tell dbkg to -- force with options |
| 01:00.20 | jeff_ | abrotman: thanks |
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| 01:02.22 | amorphovs | hoping someone can help me here. i just upgraded to kernel 2.6 and i cant mount my CD-RW/DVD drive. i still have 2.4 and if i boot into that it mounts fine. mount /dev/hdc (or /dev/cdrom) gives me the "must specify file system" message. if i do mount -t iso9660 it gives me "is not a valid block device." ive been looking online for hours but all the fixes i found are already in my system. |
| 01:02.25 | DeFuEgO | anyone know why dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ any package Verification errors ?? |
| 01:02.29 | DeFuEgO | and I can't install any packages unless i tell dbkg to -- force with options |
| 01:02.39 | cafuego | music CDs don't use iso9660,so mkisofs is useless. |
| 01:02.41 | DeFuEgO | Debian Sarge |
| 01:02.45 | dvs | !worked in 2.4 |
| 01:02.45 | dpkg | Every time you say "___ doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4", a 25 cent (USD) surcharge must be paid to greycat. |
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| 01:03.20 | abrotman | amorphovs: still using ide-scsi ? |
| 01:03.38 | abrotman | cafuego: oh . yeah .. i forgot .. i guess i don't pirate enough music |
| 01:03.42 | furrywolf | "uname -r | grep 2.4" doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4. :P |
| 01:03.44 | abrotman | jeff_: listen to cafuego |
| 01:03.46 | amorphovs | abrotman: i think im using ide-cd |
| 01:03.52 | abrotman | stop |
| 01:04.03 | cafuego | abrotman: Nothing to do with pirating music and everything with not keeping originals in the car. |
| 01:04.04 | abrotman | oh |
| 01:04.21 | abrotman | amorphovs: make sure ide-scsi isn't running . .and you have no boot params saying anyting like that |
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| 01:04.32 | madclicker | what does this mean WARNING: Port "pop3s" unselected in debconf but possibly handled locally. ? |
| 01:04.36 | abrotman | cafuego: i thought about doing that .. it'd be expensive for me :) |
| 01:04.48 | abrotman | and damn time consuming |
| 01:04.58 | cafuego | abrotman: $450 of excess on each break-in adds up. |
| 01:05.03 | DeFuEgO | thats right |
| 01:05.08 | abrotman | cafuego: you should lock your car :) |
| 01:05.18 | cafuego | abrotman: Hahaha. Funny man. |
| 01:05.22 | abrotman | sorry |
| 01:05.22 | DeFuEgO | package sigs problem ? |
| 01:05.36 | madclicker | what does debconf do? |
| 01:05.48 | abrotman | manages settings for packages .. kind of |
| 01:05.50 | DeFuEgO | anyone know why dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ any package Verification errors ?? |
| 01:05.50 | gravity | madclicker: It prompts you with questions when packages install |
| 01:05.52 | abrotman | it's an interface for that |
| 01:05.56 | shimano55 | gravity, Thanks dude! It works now! |
| 01:06.11 | abrotman | DeFuEgO: i'm pretty sure since you've asked 10 times in five minutes .. no |
| 01:06.26 | cafuego | abrotman: the doors and locks have had to be replaced twice now coz smackheads cause $500 worth of damage to get at a stereo system theys ell for $25, so they can buy a hit of heroine. |
| 01:06.26 | DeFuEgO | Verification on package /var/cache/apt/archives/xchat-common_2.4.1-0.1_all.deb failed! |
| 01:06.27 | gravity | shimano55: Glad to hear it. Enjoy :-) |
| 01:06.30 | abrotman | DeFuEgO: check google |
| 01:06.49 | abrotman | cafuego: maybe tape little packets of heroin to the bumper? |
| 01:07.01 | cafuego | abrotman: That would only encourage them |
| 01:07.04 | madclicker | has anyone encoutered this error message before with ipopd server when telneting to 110 "-ERR Unknown AUTHORIZATION state command"? |
| 01:07.21 | abrotman | ipopd ? |
| 01:07.22 | DeFuEgO | google failed dpkg |
| 01:07.24 | cafuego | abrotman: The oly real solution is to exterminate the human race. |
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| 01:07.35 | madclicker | abrotman: yes |
| 01:07.36 | abrotman | cafuego: make sundays much better around here |
| 01:07.47 | madclicker | abrotman: name user |
| 01:07.49 | cafuego | abrotman: oh, the joy! |
| 01:07.52 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:08.00 | madclicker | abrotman: and than this error message |
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| 01:08.17 | Ugly_Duck | process.cpp:4:21: ncurses.h: No such file or directory |
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| 01:08.36 | abrotman | libncurses-dev |
| 01:08.40 | abrotman | !tell Ugly_Duck about search |
| 01:08.41 | dvs | Ugly_Duck: apt-get instlal libncurses-dev |
| 01:08.53 | dvs | s/instlal/install |
| 01:08.55 | abrotman | madclicker: did you try a real pop3 client? |
| 01:09.02 | cafuego | libncurses5-dev |
| 01:09.03 | abrotman | since i can only guess ipopd is pop3 daemon |
| 01:09.06 | Ugly_Duck | ahh.. i'm sure it was installed |
| 01:09.10 | Ugly_Duck | thanks |
| 01:09.10 | abrotman | cafuego: keep up in the back there! |
| 01:09.16 | karsten | Ugly_Duck: apt-cache search <expr> OR: aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search <expr> |
| 01:09.29 | karsten | Ugly_Duck: apt-cache searches descriptions. apt-file searches all files for all packages. |
| 01:09.30 | cafuego | abrotman: You gave him the wrong package name, miss. |
| 01:09.36 | karsten | Ugly_Duck: See also: auto-apt |
| 01:09.36 | abrotman | no i didn't |
| 01:09.38 | bioOrganic | i'm only using debian to test tigcc and tilp, should i install 3.0 r5 or current |
| 01:09.40 | madclicker | abrotman: all my clients are getting this error |
| 01:09.47 | cafuego | abrotman: <abrotman> libncurses-de |
| 01:09.49 | abrotman | well . it used to work anyways |
| 01:09.56 | cafuego | !info libncurses-dev |
| 01:09.58 | amorphovs | abrotman: i dont have ide-scsi booting in my /etc/modules file, so unless theres somewhere else it might be i dont think thats the problem |
| 01:10.09 | cafuego | [dpkg(~dpkg@dpkg.user)] Package 'libncurses-dev' does not exist. |
| 01:10.17 | cafuego | !slap abrotman |
| 01:10.26 | abrotman | amorphovs: check your bootloader |
| 01:10.27 | karsten | cafuego: Damnit, that's _my_ job. |
| 01:10.32 | abrotman | cafuego: hey .. it worked in woody :) |
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| 01:10.54 | abrotman | cafuego: and it still does work ... |
| 01:10.56 | abrotman | in sarge |
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| 01:11.01 | bioOrganic | what fucking motherfucking fuckfuckfuck >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0 r5 or current |
| 01:11.02 | abrotman | cafuego: you hit me for no reason!!! |
| 01:11.05 | MidgetSpy | hey guys, I'm using d-i and I've reached the point where I'm installing the packages I want. does "File server" mean ftpd or samba? |
| 01:11.10 | abrotman | bioOrganic: english |
| 01:11.26 | karsten | MidgetSpy: What package? |
| 01:11.28 | abrotman | cafuego: try to install it |
| 01:11.44 | amorphovs | abrotman: are there config files for grub elsewhere than /boot/grub? |
| 01:11.52 | karsten | MidgetSpy: ...and likely Samba. IMO you're better off _not_ using tasksel, BTW. Cancel and install packages postinst. |
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| 01:11.54 | abrotman | amorphovs: not that i'm aware |
| 01:11.58 | karsten | amorphovs: No. |
| 01:12.09 | MidgetSpy | karsten: what do you mean? it's just listed as "File server" in the d-i "Debian software selection" |
| 01:12.17 | amorphovs | abrotman: well then ide-scsi does not appear to be loading at boot |
| 01:12.39 | abrotman | amorphovs: does dmesg see it as a burner ? |
| 01:12.40 | abrotman | and did you get cdrecord or anything to see it as an atapi device ? |
| 01:12.42 | karsten | MidgetSpy: Cancel that part. Skip tasksel. |
| 01:12.48 | bioOrganic | because im only installing debian to test two rather small applications and becuase im not a bugger or a debian developer what fucking reason is there to download current |
| 01:12.51 | bioOrganic | hey |
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| 01:13.00 | amorphovs | abrotman: its not coming up in dmesg |
| 01:13.01 | karsten | MidgetSpy: Debian makes installing packages trivial. Tasksel is supposed to be a convenience, IMO it's not particularly. |
| 01:13.03 | bioOrganic | fack |
| 01:13.04 | abrotman | bioOrganic: stop fucking swearing |
| 01:13.08 | abrotman | god .. idiots |
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| 01:13.17 | abrotman | amorphovs: at all? |
| 01:13.28 | abrotman | amorphovs: dmesg | grep CD |
| 01:13.30 | bioOrganic | well 3.0 r5 it is |
| 01:13.31 | karsten | abrotman: Omniscient idiots? |
| 01:13.38 | abrotman | karsten: just flat idiots |
| 01:13.49 | n0op | im trying to run firefox on a debian core only install.. i installed the package but when i try to run it i get the message (firefox-bin:954): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display |
| 01:13.57 | amorphovs | abrotman: nope |
| 01:14.00 | abrotman | do you have X running ? |
| 01:14.07 | karsten | n0op: Running X? Running as user? |
| 01:14.09 | abrotman | amorphovs: so you have no CD drives ? |
| 01:14.22 | n0op | not running anything |
| 01:14.27 | n0op | :/ |
| 01:14.29 | amorphovs | abrotman: no, but as i said, if i boot into 2.4 it works perfectly |
| 01:14.30 | abrotman | n0op: firefox runs in X |
| 01:14.36 | karsten | abrotman: ...looks like that might come in handy. |
| 01:14.36 | n0op | ok |
| 01:14.39 | n0op | thaks |
| 01:14.46 | karsten | n0op: firefox won't run if you'r enot running X. |
| 01:14.48 | nrl | is it really necessary that planet debian be taken down and replaced with that message? couldn't it just be put at the top of the page and let the site tick along on its own for a while? hmm, suppose I better go do some work or something instead... |
| 01:14.51 | abrotman | amorphovs: hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) .. should see something similar |
| 01:14.59 | abrotman | and it is case sensitive |
| 01:14.59 | karsten | n0op: If you want a console browser: lynx, w3m, links. |
| 01:15.13 | amorphovs | abrotman: yes, i see that when i boot into 2.4, but not in 2.6 |
| 01:15.21 | karsten | nrl: Sitewide outage. |
| 01:15.28 | jmspeex | How can I tell the apt dependency manager that I have java2-runtime installed even though it's not from a deb package? |
| 01:15.31 | karsten | !planetmirror |
| 01:15.32 | dpkg | [planetmirror] (as of 02 May 2005) sitewide outage > 8 hours is affecting ftp://ftp.au.debian.org. Use another mirror, eg: ftp://ftp.debian.org. |
| 01:15.44 | cafuego | liar |
| 01:15.56 | abrotman | nrl: oh well .. shit happens |
| 01:16.00 | abrotman | karsten: looks shut off |
| 01:16.04 | abrotman | karsten: planet.debian.net |
| 01:16.11 | karsten | abrotman: ? |
| 01:16.14 | gravity | abrotman: It's being resolved |
| 01:16.14 | abrotman | karsten: planet.debian.net |
| 01:16.22 | abrotman | gravity: perhaps .. shut off for now |
| 01:16.35 | cafuego | nrl: There's heaps more mirrors, just pick another one. |
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| 01:16.41 | mgth | ~sarge |
| 01:16.42 | apt | it has been said that sarge is the new testing. Ten-HUT! Sarge Unoffical ISOS! http://www.sz.kernel.org/pub/linux/iso-images/debian/sarge-unofficial/ or <fooz> sarge is an army man, or some magical, radically different version of debian, or do not use the sarge ISOs to install it, they are broken, or a q3 bot, and unknown when it will go stable, see "sarge pool". |
| 01:16.49 | karsten | abrotman: Ah. OK. |
| 01:17.08 | karsten | abrotman: Was SWAGing it had something to do with planetmirror's outage. |
| 01:17.10 | mgth | ~sarge pool |
| 01:17.11 | apt | Place your bets on when sarge will become stable! ghakko=2004-04-20 compwizrd=2003-12-25 deadcat=2005-08-16 sgeigerbot=1999-12-31 peterS=2004-05-01 gnupg=2004-04-08 DelEat=2004-04-02 nevyn=2004-03-20 Shay=2004-03-28 zignig=2003-12-23 streuner=2004-02-29 greycat=2004-03-01 Justin_=WIR simonrvn=2004-03-15 rw-rw-r--=2004-04-22 Starfox=2003-01-15 Jawoota=2004-02-01, ... |
| 01:17.14 | karsten | abrotman: Stand corrected. |
| 01:17.15 | abrotman | mgth: /msg |
| 01:17.43 | abrotman | karsten: nope .. it's an aggregator for blogs .. interesting too .. i'm sad to see Ian's go .. i'm too lazy to go read all the others |
| 01:17.52 | karsten | abrotman: Yeah, wasn't sure where it was hosted.... |
| 01:18.04 | abrotman | karsten: apparently by someone working on ubuntu . dunno |
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| 01:18.14 | karsten | abrotman: I found it too diorhetic for my tastes anyhow. Who was running it? |
| 01:18.19 | gravity | Ian's is back |
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| 01:18.22 | abrotman | diuretic ? |
| 01:18.28 | amorphovs | abrotman: any idea? |
| 01:18.30 | abrotman | gravity: oh .. yay |
| 01:18.33 | karsten | abrotman: No. |
| 01:18.40 | abrotman | amorphovs: the drive isn't plugged in ? :) |
| 01:18.44 | abrotman | amorphovs: install discover |
| 01:19.09 | karsten | abrotman: I can't spell diahrea to save my life... |
| 01:19.15 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:19.24 | amorphovs | abrotman: just run that? it says too few arguments (or did you mean something that im not getting) |
| 01:19.35 | abrotman | amorphovs: no . install it |
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| 01:19.52 | amorphovs | abrotman: how? |
| 01:19.53 | abrotman | gravity: will they put jeff's back too / |
| 01:19.53 | abrotman | ? |
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| 01:19.58 | abrotman | amorphovs: apt-get install discover ? |
| 01:20.01 | nrl | it wasn't that great just something to kill time now and then and the occassional nice thing was mentioned, oh well nm. (I still think closing it is a little over dramatic though) |
| 01:20.02 | gravity | abrotman: I don't know. No one has asked for it. |
| 01:20.02 | amorphovs | oh! |
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| 01:20.10 | amorphovs | abrotman: haha, sorry, wow |
| 01:20.26 | abrotman | or discover1 |
| 01:20.34 | jetdotnet | discover blows, comparatively speaking (to compiling them in) but plz at least say no to manage mount points |
| 01:20.38 | abrotman | no .. i guess discover is right |
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| 01:20.46 | abrotman | jetdotnet: uhm .. mine doesn't |
| 01:20.57 | jetdotnet | doesn't.... |
| 01:21.04 | amorphovs | abrotman: then do i just run discover? |
| 01:21.06 | abrotman | though .. apparently i'm on libdiscover1 |
| 01:21.09 | abrotman | amorphovs: then reboot |
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| 01:21.28 | abrotman | amorphovs: is this a debian kernel .. or your own ? |
| 01:21.33 | jetdotnet | actually, when i install discover, it runs and installs modules, iirc |
| 01:21.35 | amorphovs | debian |
| 01:21.38 | amorphovs | abrotman: |
| 01:21.48 | amorphovs | abrotman: i got the kernel from apt |
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| 01:22.05 | jetdotnet | don't let discover manage mount points is my point... |
| 01:22.10 | n0op | do i have to re-install to run X? |
| 01:22.14 | gravity | You don't have to reboot for discover |
| 01:22.15 | jetdotnet | no |
| 01:22.17 | abrotman | gravity: and now it's back :) |
| 01:22.19 | gravity | It'll load the modules on install |
| 01:22.25 | gravity | abrotman: Yeah. I told you it was being handled :-) |
| 01:22.28 | Erpo | Hi all. I'm tired of going through the hassle of compiling my own kernel. How do I switch over to the "debian way" of managing the kernel and its modules? |
| 01:22.31 | abrotman | gravity: that was fast :) |
| 01:22.35 | abrotman | nrl: check again |
| 01:22.37 | amorphovs | ok, rebooting |
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| 01:22.50 | jetdotnet | Erpo: apt-cache search kernel-image, pick one, apt-get install it |
| 01:23.06 | nrl | abrotman: yay :) |
| 01:23.09 | jetdotnet | make sure you have the initrd.img symlink in / |
| 01:23.25 | jetdotnet | (optional) |
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| 01:23.37 | abrotman | gravity: i know you don't have to .. but it's "easier" :) |
| 01:23.41 | Erpo | jetdotnet: The first command seems simple enough. I'm not sure how to make sure I have the initrd.img symlink in /. |
| 01:23.55 | jetdotnet | ls -lA / |
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| 01:24.00 | gravity | abrotman: It doesn't do anything. discover1 at least loads all the modules on install. |
| 01:24.06 | gravity | abrotman: So rebooting doesn't do anything |
| 01:24.27 | abrotman | gravity: no way to tell what else he had loaded in his attempt to get it working :) |
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| 01:24.34 | gravity | Good point |
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| 01:25.03 | jetdotnet | Erpo: if you've been compiling your own kernels that don't use initrd, you'll probably (maybe) need to recreate the symlink (if the installer doesn't create it for you) |
| 01:25.14 | jetdotnet | be sure and check after you install it but before you reboot |
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| 01:25.40 | abrotman | gravity: not that i can be sure what's in his /etc/modules either |
| 01:25.45 | shimano55 | Question, Does anyone know if xmms can use WinAmp skins? |
| 01:25.45 | shimano55 | like the .wsz files? |
| 01:25.47 | jetdotnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.52 | serialkiller | i somethign going on with mirrors.kernel.org apt source? |
| 01:26.01 | Erpo | jetdotnet: I think I'll need to understand the function of initrd before I go any further. Thanks. :) |
| 01:26.02 | abrotman | shimano55: ask #xmms |
| 01:26.25 | serialkiller | Err http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages |
| 01:26.27 | serialkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.29 | serialkiller | ??? |
| 01:26.32 | jetdotnet | Erpo: stock debian kernels use an INITial RamDisk to load modules from |
| 01:26.43 | DeFuEgO | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ ANY-PACKAGE (--unpack): then Verification on package /var/cache/apt/archives/ Package-xxx,deb failed .... Am I missing some signature-verification package -all seems to be in place so this problem really sucks - may be someone has an idea why dpkg won't verify any packages new - Sarge 3.1 testing ??? |
| 01:26.52 | abrotman | serialkiller: just pick another |
| 01:26.53 | jetdotnet | bad line serialkiller |
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| 01:27.08 | serialkiller | bad line? |
| 01:27.09 | madclicker | looking for lftp package for sarge. yhank you |
| 01:27.12 | serialkiller | worked an hour ago |
| 01:27.21 | abrotman | jetdotnet: he didn't even show us the line |
| 01:27.26 | Erpo | jetdotnet: Ah, so is initrd a way of compiling boot-critical filesystems and disk drivers as modules and still having the system work? |
| 01:27.27 | abrotman | madclicker: apt-cache search |
| 01:27.28 | jetdotnet | serialkiller: http://hfds.com/debian_files/sources.list.txt <--an example you might need to change the sid to sarge on |
| 01:27.31 | abrotman | !initrd |
| 01:27.32 | dpkg | initrd is probably initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230 |
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| 01:28.00 | jetdotnet | Erpo: mostly yeah |
| 01:28.05 | Wyzard | jetdotnet: If Linux were MultiBoot-compliant, GRUB could load the kernel modules directly, and initrd wouldn't be needed :-) |
| 01:28.07 | madclicker | abrotman: none |
| 01:28.17 | madclicker | abrotman: why??? |
| 01:28.21 | serialkiller | huh? jetdotnet pass the crack this way! |
| 01:28.30 | abrotman | madclicker: not at all ? |
| 01:28.43 | Erpo | jetdotnet: So how does grub/lilo load the initrd? |
| 01:28.57 | abrotman | madclicker: i don't have it either .. but i still use regular ftp client or wget .. so i guess it doesn't really matter :) |
| 01:29.09 | abrotman | Erpo: magic! |
| 01:29.09 | jetdotnet | you have the initrd= statement in lilo.conf, or the grub equiv |
| 01:29.20 | jetdotnet | in each kernel's stanza |
| 01:29.29 | madclicker | abrotman: it is a such a sweet package and debian dont have it |
| 01:29.35 | abrotman | madclicker: dunno why |
| 01:29.38 | Erpo | jetdotnet: Hmm. I'll give it a shot... |
| 01:29.39 | abrotman | !info lftp woody |
| 01:29.41 | abrotman | !info lftp sid |
| 01:29.44 | dpkg | lftp: (Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs), section net, is optional. Version: 3.1.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 519 kB, Installed size: 1380 kB |
| 01:29.50 | abrotman | well .. it's in sid |
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| 01:29.52 | jetdotnet | !gftp |
| 01:29.52 | dpkg | move over, ws-ftp!, or http://bugs.debian.org/176188 |
| 01:30.00 | abrotman | gftp is nice |
| 01:30.05 | madclicker | abrotman: haw can i get it? |
| 01:30.05 | abrotman | and a seul hosted project! |
| 01:30.26 | abrotman | madclicker: i still can't figure out why it's not in sarge |
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| 01:30.43 | abrotman | !why is lftp not in debian |
| 01:30.43 | dpkg | abrotman: what are you talking about? |
| 01:30.45 | abrotman | err |
| 01:30.48 | abrotman | !why is lftp not in sarge |
| 01:30.49 | dpkg | abrotman: what are you talking about? |
| 01:30.50 | Erpo | Once I've got the debian kernel installed, how do I go about getting modules for my hardware? |
| 01:30.54 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:30.55 | madclicker | abrotman: i figured it out already, just dont want to say it out loud |
| 01:31.01 | abrotman | madclicker: which is ? |
| 01:31.10 | amorphovs | abrotman: ok, rebooted. discover appears to be operating because my wireless card is now named (before it was unknown, though working). however, mounting has the same problem and the drive still doesnt show up in dmesg. |
| 01:31.14 | abrotman | !why is lftp not in testing |
| 01:31.15 | dpkg | lftp is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=lftp |
| 01:31.15 | abrotman | ha! |
| 01:31.25 | spoopin | Erpo: are the modules you need part of the kernel source? |
| 01:31.30 | abrotman | amorphovs: does your computer hate you? |
| 01:31.32 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: #305160 probably |
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| 01:31.39 | amorphovs | abrotman: no, apparently just 2.6 |
| 01:31.41 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: you know bug numbers? |
| 01:31.49 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 305160 |
| 01:31.53 | dpkg | DONE:#305160:S[lftp] linked against libssl (confirmed, upstream) Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:48:09 UTC |
| 01:32.05 | abrotman | oh |
| 01:32.10 | Erpo | spoopin: I'm not sure what you mean by that. I've been compiling the kernel myself since a long time, and I've never had to patch the vanilla kernel source in order to get my hardware to work, with the exception of the nvidia driver. |
| 01:32.30 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: its been fixed, but lftp was probably removed from sarge because of it, and the fixed version hadn't made it back in |
| 01:32.38 | abrotman | yep it was |
| 01:32.59 | spoopin | Erpo: If it's an option, the Debian images come with all the modules compiled... at least I think so |
| 01:33.10 | Erpo | spoopin: Thanks. :) |
| 01:33.21 | spoopin | Erpo: the nvidia drivers are an obvious exception |
| 01:33.27 | spoopin | Erpo: np |
| 01:33.32 | madclicker | how can i add source for sid? |
| 01:33.50 | JoshH | madclicker: if you dont know, you shouldnt use sid, honestly. |
| 01:33.53 | dondelelcaro | madclicker: if you need to ask, you shouldn't use sid. |
| 01:34.00 | amorphovs | abrotman: the only other thing is that in order to get 2.6 to boot (before it gave me a kernel panic) i had to tell grub to boot into /dev/sda rather than /dev/hda. i dont know if that could affect anything, but i thought id mention it. with that in mind, i already tried to see if my cdrom had moved to sdc (or sdb or sdd), but to no avail. |
| 01:34.14 | abrotman | amorphovs: sata drives? |
| 01:34.21 | madclicker | that was helpful |
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| 01:34.25 | amorphovs | abrotman: whats that? |
| 01:34.28 | abrotman | ok .. nm |
| 01:34.41 | abrotman | madclicker: he's serious ... if you need to ask how to use sid . you shouldn't be using it |
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| 01:35.05 | madclicker | abrotman: i need a few packages thats all |
| 01:35.15 | abrotman | madclicker: mixing is pretty bad too |
| 01:35.52 | madclicker | abrotman: i know but look in sarge they included a buggy ipopd server no lftp , what is a man suppose to do? |
| 01:35.53 | JoshH | madclicker: what packages? |
| 01:36.04 | abrotman | madclicker: then file a bug |
| 01:36.04 | dpkg | lftp: (Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.9-1woody2 (woody), Packaged size: 430 kB, Installed size: 1176 kB |
| 01:36.07 | JoshH | madclicker: try ncftp |
| 01:36.13 | abrotman | madclicker: and use a normal ftp client |
| 01:36.23 | JoshH | ncftp3 |
| 01:36.31 | abrotman | ncftp will work fine for you .. or gftp isn't bad if you use gnome |
| 01:36.32 | madclicker | abrotman: there has been a bug filed for 2 years now |
| 01:36.32 | Erpo | Ok everyone. I think I've got it. Thanks all for your help. |
| 01:36.50 | madclicker | abrotman: normal ftp client sucks |
| 01:36.52 | abrotman | madclicker: then pick another pop3 server .. like a real one |
| 01:37.05 | abrotman | i don't know a single person using ipopd for anyhting |
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| 01:37.16 | madclicker | abrotman: i did dovecot, and it is a hunk of burning love |
| 01:37.23 | abrotman | madclicker: use a real one |
| 01:37.32 | madclicker | abrotman: like? |
| 01:37.35 | serialkiller | Failed to fetch http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 500 Internal Server Error |
| 01:37.36 | abrotman | courier! |
| 01:37.39 | serialkiller | hummmm |
| 01:37.45 | JoshH | madclicker: tpop3d |
| 01:37.46 | abrotman | serialkiller: the server is having an issue maybe? |
| 01:37.53 | obtix | ok, to all who were helping me earlier there is def. something wrong with 2.6.11.7 and 2.6.11.8 because i downgraded all the to 2.6.7 (which i knew worked) and it worked - there is a bug in the fat filesystem support |
| 01:37.57 | dondelelcaro | madclicker: uh, lftp will be in sarge shortly. Did you not read http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=lftp ? |
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| 01:38.14 | serialkiller | lol.. damn it i need make |
| 01:38.29 | abrotman | pick another fucking mirror |
| 01:38.31 | abrotman | god |
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| 01:40.32 | madclicker | dondelelcaro: am not mister current affairs in sarge sorry, but let me tell you it is tough when all the tool that you are used to are taken away |
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| 01:41.10 | madclicker | JoshH: old buddy old pall :) do you have tpop3d running? |
| 01:41.35 | JoshH | yes, but not on debian. |
| 01:41.41 | madclicker | buhhh |
| 01:42.04 | madclicker | JoshH: can u give me a hand with it? |
| 01:42.19 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:42.20 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:42.20 | JoshH | im kinda busy right now, perhaps another time. :)\ |
| 01:42.25 | madclicker | you |
| 01:42.28 | abrotman | madclicker: try courier .. |
| 01:42.28 | Drako60 | i have a problem and i think i know what its coming from but i'm not positive and i was hoping you could help, i'll get the vital information typed in a second |
| 01:42.28 | madclicker | sorry |
| 01:43.22 | rectum | back from work |
| 01:43.23 | Drako60 | i just installed the amd64 netinstall, and everything went ok up untill i rebooted where i got a kernel panic: Machine check, In Interrupt handler - not syncing |
| 01:43.35 | Drako60 | i believe this is do to acpi but i'm not positive |
| 01:43.41 | madclicker | abrotman: please i know jack about setting up courier. I've been using mandrake for 5 years and ipopd, now i have about 600 client with no access, i just need functionality |
| 01:43.49 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:43.52 | abrotman | madclicker: that's bad |
| 01:44.07 | rectum | that was an amsg, don't mind me |
| 01:44.10 | madclicker | abrotman: u nailed it |
| 01:44.13 | dvs | madclicker: then get mandriva |
| 01:44.14 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:44.14 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:44.23 | abrotman | madclicker: do you need ssl pop3 or just normal ? |
| 01:44.31 | madclicker | dvs: briliant answer |
| 01:44.43 | DeFuEgO | try adding -- napic on grub - boot line |
| 01:44.47 | madclicker | dvs: keep them comments to your self |
| 01:44.58 | dvs | pfffffffft |
| 01:45.02 | MidgetSpy | does "unstable" have a version number associated with it? (is it just debian 3 unstable)? |
| 01:45.04 | madclicker | abrotman: just pop3 |
| 01:45.27 | abrotman | so try installing courier-pop |
| 01:45.29 | madclicker | abrotman: plain old pop3 no mysql no ldap just pop3 |
| 01:45.31 | Wyzard | MidgetSpy: no |
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| 01:45.40 | abrotman | madclicker: they are all /etc/passwd users ? |
| 01:45.48 | madclicker | abrotman: yes |
| 01:45.58 | obtix | ok, i def have my sound card installed in the kernel right but when i use mpg123 to play an mp3 i get an error saying "Can't find a suitable libao drive" |
| 01:46.12 | JoshH | madclicker: in that case, try qpopper, its easy as cake |
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| 01:46.26 | Wyzard | MidgetSpy: Version numbers are assigned to testing as releases are made and the associated release name changes, but unstable is perpetually unstable |
| 01:46.32 | JoshH | it basically works automatically as soon as you install it |
| 01:46.35 | dabreegster | obtix: are you running any music server or playing anything else atm? |
| 01:46.40 | Teemu_K | :P |
| 01:46.45 | madclicker | JoshH: spare me with "easy" and "works out of the box" |
| 01:46.49 | dabreegster | obtix: are you running KDE or GNOME? artsd or esd might be running. |
| 01:46.52 | JoshH | its true. :) |
| 01:46.58 | abrotman | isn't qpopper non-free? |
| 01:47.02 | abrotman | or is that another pop3d ? |
| 01:47.09 | obtix | dabreegster: nope.. i am running nothing else at all |
| 01:47.28 | abrotman | madclicker: i'm still voting for courier |
| 01:47.32 | JoshH | qpopper is in main, i assume its free |
| 01:47.36 | dabreegster | obtix: Hmm.. alsa or oss drivers? |
| 01:47.56 | obtix | dabreegster: ALSA |
| 01:47.57 | abrotman | karsten: did that starfire ever come back? |
| 01:48.02 | dabreegster | obtix: lsmod | grep snd |
| 01:48.04 | madclicker | abrotman: is it an inetd or standalone? |
| 01:48.16 | DeFuEgO | obtix do lsmod to see if alsa modules are loaded |
| 01:48.24 | dabreegster | obtix: try alsaplay or something |
| 01:48.25 | JoshH | madclicker: qpopper can be ran from inetd or standalone |
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| 01:48.31 | JoshH | i think... |
| 01:48.32 | dabreegster | obtix: wait, mpg321 -o alsa |
| 01:48.34 | JoshH | its been a while |
| 01:49.03 | dabreegster | obtix: do you have mpg321 (the free one; mpg123 is usually symlinked to it) or mpg123 (the non-free?) |
| 01:49.06 | obtix | dabreegster: lsmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented (thats a kernel problem isnt it?) |
| 01:49.25 | bob2 | !+qm_modules |
| 01:49.25 | dpkg | install module-init-tools, or <Justin_> like I said a while ago, it should be QM_ID10T_MODULES, or ask me about <bunk 2.6> |
| 01:49.30 | dabreegster | obtix: I guess; never experienced it. That's probably not good. |
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| 01:49.59 | abrotman | madclicker: i think you can pick |
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| 01:50.43 | madclicker | abrotman: i pick "plaese work" |
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| 01:50.54 | obtix | ok, how do i get/install module-init-tools |
| 01:51.00 | abrotman | with apt |
| 01:51.03 | dvs | and get |
| 01:51.04 | abrotman | apt-get even |
| 01:51.08 | abrotman | apt-get install works too |
| 01:51.11 | abrotman | man apt-get |
| 01:51.11 | dabreegster | obtix: apt-get install PACKAGE as root |
| 01:51.22 | dvs | nah, dselect is the only way ;-) |
| 01:51.26 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:51.35 | obtix | dabreegster: that what i though: Counldn't find package module-init-tools |
| 01:51.41 | dabreegster | dvs: bah, aptitude is clearly superior |
| 01:51.51 | corallis | Are there any other programs other than rcconf that will let me configure what services start when I first boot? |
| 01:51.53 | abrotman | tasksel ? |
| 01:51.55 | DeFuEgO | apt-get install module-init-tools |
| 01:51.56 | dvs | dabreegster: your synaptics must be out of whack |
| 01:52.02 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
| 01:52.04 | JoshH | corallis: not happy with rcconf? |
| 01:52.09 | dabreegster | obtix: apt-get update # after checking sources.list is good |
| 01:52.29 | corallis | JoshH: the service I want to stop isn't listed under rcconf |
| 01:52.30 | dabreegster | dvs: I don't use X, so therefore I don't use synaptic. |
| 01:52.40 | JoshH | corallis: did you install it from a debian package? |
| 01:52.45 | JoshH | the service? |
| 01:53.07 | corallis | JoshH: I never installed it - it came with the installation of the distro |
| 01:53.13 | JoshH | what service? |
| 01:53.16 | abrotman | corallis: which service? |
| 01:53.40 | corallis | rpcbind running on port 111, "unknown service" on 972, and "cadlock" on 1000 |
| 01:53.44 | corallis | I have no idea what cadlock even is |
| 01:53.49 | dabreegster | dvs: Who needs X? I'm quite fine with screen and my two dozen modifications to the console system. |
| 01:54.18 | abrotman | corallis: apt-get --purge remove portmap |
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| 01:54.31 | abrotman | dunno what cadlock is |
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| 01:55.31 | corallis | abrotman: that got rid of everything, including cadlock |
| 01:55.35 | abrotman | yay |
| 01:55.45 | corallis | abrotman: thanks :) |
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| 01:55.59 | dabreegster | Sorry, irssi actually *crashed* |
| 01:56.23 | travisat | irssi crashed? |
| 01:56.26 | silverton | when installing a .deb file, the command is "dpkg -l" right? |
| 01:56.38 | dabreegster | silverton: -i |
| 01:56.53 | silverton | dabreegster, thanks ^_^ |
| 01:57.01 | travisat | I have had irssi running straight for like 2 weeks now |
| 01:57.58 | dabreegster | travisat: It's weird: When I'm trying to resume a DCC get and I have something hogging my bandwith, it'll stall. I'll get frustrated and repeatedly tell it to resume, then it'll crash with an error about invalid file descriptors. |
| 01:58.10 | obtix | dabreegster: ok, i got the package and i did lsmod | grep snd and nothing came up.. now what? |
| 01:58.59 | dabreegster | obtix: Doesn't look like anything is there. Said you are using alsa? What kernel? Did you examine dmesg for errors? |
| 01:59.09 | abrotman | dabreegster: file a bug! |
| 01:59.16 | dabreegster | obtix: if you're on a 2.6 kernel, grab alsa-base and alsa-utils then run alsaconf |
| 01:59.27 | dabreegster | abrotman: Later. I'm tired. |
| 01:59.31 | abrotman | now! |
| 01:59.34 | abrotman | make it RC! |
| 01:59.37 | abrotman | delay sarge! |
| 01:59.57 | dabreegster | heh |
| 02:00.01 | dabreegster | good idea, actually |
| 02:00.10 | obtix | dabreegster: dabreegster: no errors at boot infact it says to found my sound card... im getting those packages now |
| 02:00.11 | dabreegster | I'd miss those 'When is sarge gunna go stable?' questions. |
| 02:00.19 | dabreegster | alright |
| 02:00.22 | abrotman | dabreegster: sit here for 10 more minutes |
| 02:01.35 | obtix | dabreegster: ok, i did that and it said no supported cards found is the SB Live! not supported by ALSA maybe? |
| 02:02.08 | dvs | obtix: That should be the snd_emu10k1 module |
| 02:02.31 | obtix | dvs: where is that located in the kernel? |
| 02:02.58 | dvs | obtix: If it's a Debian kernel, it doesn't matter: modprobe snd_emu10k1 |
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| 02:03.20 | fyn | In KDE ... how do you restart the taskbar if it dies for some reason? |
| 02:03.37 | obtix | dvs: not debian kernel :-\ |
| 02:03.52 | dvs | obtix: -> Device Drivers ? |
| 02:03.53 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.53 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.53 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.53 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:04.04 | dvs | ha! |
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| 02:04.16 | obtix | sorry dvs |
| 02:04.32 | obtix | dvs: just as i thought i had it built into my kernel |
| 02:04.34 | dvs | obtix: Dont' worry about it |
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| 02:05.52 | abrotman | dvs: come on |
| 02:05.58 | dvs | abrotman: what? |
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| 02:07.09 | DeFuEgO | obtix what modules do you have in /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/sound/pci ??? |
| 02:07.13 | abrotman | dvs: pasting ? |
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| 02:07.28 | dvs | abrotman: oh that. sorry. |
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| 02:08.06 | obtix | DeFuEgO: none.. because i dont have that kernel but in my kernel none also because i didnt load sound as a module i built it into the kernel |
| 02:08.22 | abrotman | gravity: now there's a comment |
| 02:08.30 | Drako60 | anyone remember where i can find the install problems and boot problems doc for amd64? |
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| 02:09.35 | dabreegster | sorry, wrong key |
| 02:10.10 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 02:10.10 | dpkg | from memory, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
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| 02:10.40 | DeFuEgO | obtix on boot your sound card detected ? |
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| 02:10.43 | RnD57 | byebye, all |
| 02:10.59 | mngrif | is the One True Way to get phpgroupware working on debian somewhere online? |
| 02:11.11 | busboy | hi, what is the premission set allow allow owner and the group member to write to share folder and they can only delete their own file |
| 02:11.27 | dvs | busboy: +S |
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| 02:11.39 | busboy | is it 2770 |
| 02:11.41 | obtix | DeFuEgO: yes... it says found |
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| 02:11.54 | Drako60 | thank you |
| 02:11.57 | paul_ | hello |
| 02:11.58 | DeFuEgO | thats a + |
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| 02:12.42 | abrotman | apt-get install phpgroupware ? |
| 02:13.14 | mkde | anyone know anything about gpg? i have a bit of an issue with my keyring, it doesn't seem to be there anymore. http://pastebin.ca/10786 can anyone help? |
| 02:13.28 | mngrif | abrotman: yeah, seemingly installs everything you need but it doesn't work. i've gone through /etc/apache2/* with a fine toothed comb and cant find anything out of place |
| 02:14.06 | gravity | mkde: What did you do to get that error in the first place? |
| 02:14.20 | mkde | gravity, anything, like --list-keys |
| 02:14.30 | Erpo | Hi all. I just installed kernel-image-2.6-k7 and the system boots fine but won't go into graphical mode. I've installed and unpacked kernel-source-2.6.8 and run the nvidia installer from nvidia.com, but the installer tells me that I need to make sure my kernel source matches my running kernel. Any idea what I should do? I'm stuck at a command prompt right now... |
| 02:14.38 | Wyzard | mkde: Sounds like the file is corrupted |
| 02:14.38 | DeFuEgO | obtix - maybe do demesg , and also look in /var/log/messages to see if you can track any problems |
| 02:14.42 | Wyzard | mkde: Hopefully you have a backup |
| 02:14.43 | mkde | Wyzard, :/ |
| 02:14.58 | mkde | Wyzard, my backup is so recent that it will also be corrupted |
| 02:15.09 | gravity | mkde: No, I mean how did this get corrupted? |
| 02:15.13 | obtix | DeFuEgO: just says ALSA device list: and has my card thats it |
| 02:15.16 | Wyzard | mkde: At least public keys tend to be distributed around, so that you can get a copy from someone else |
| 02:15.19 | mkde | gravity, no idea whatsoever |
| 02:15.21 | Wyzard | mkde: What's more important is your private keyfile |
| 02:15.25 | gravity | urk |
| 02:15.34 | mkde | Wyzard, do you think its possible that it could be permissions? |
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| 02:15.51 | Wyzard | mkde: No, it starts reading the file, which means it opened it successfully |
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| 02:15.57 | mkde | damn |
| 02:16.09 | Wyzard | mkde: Wouldn't be a bad idea to scan your hard drive for bad sectors, btw |
| 02:16.35 | Wyzard | mkde: But before you do anything else, make a copy of your secring.gpg, and *then* check whether the private key it contains is intact |
| 02:16.44 | mkde | Wyzard, could you tell me the command to do that? |
| 02:16.46 | abrotman | xenogears! |
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| 02:17.10 | juanwalker | who plays TEG or freeciv? |
| 02:17.16 | Wyzard | mkde: gpg --list-secret-keys |
| 02:17.17 | Erpo | Is there a "debian way" of installing the nvidia kernel module and getting it to work? |
| 02:17.26 | bob2 | Erpo: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 02:17.34 | juanwalker | freeciv |
| 02:17.36 | abrotman | !tell Erpo about nvidia-one-liner |
| 02:17.37 | juanwalker | or teg |
| 02:17.37 | Erpo | bob2: Thanks. |
| 02:17.41 | juanwalker | ?? |
| 02:17.43 | mkde | Wyzard, looks clean |
| 02:17.45 | juanwalker | who palys |
| 02:17.46 | juanwalker | plays |
| 02:17.47 | Wyzard | abrotman: I'm >30hours into FFX already |
| 02:17.51 | abrotman | bah |
| 02:17.55 | abrotman | Wyzard: not you :) |
| 02:18.03 | abrotman | i got the worng nvidia factoid |
| 02:18.04 | mngrif | xenogears? |
| 02:18.07 | mkde | Wyzard, what about the command for scanning the drive for bad sectors? ;) |
| 02:18.14 | Wyzard | mkde: OK, then you haven't lost anything too important... just get a copy of your public key back from a keyserver or a friend |
| 02:18.17 | abrotman | Wyzard: i see prerelease stuff for XII |
| 02:18.21 | dabreegster | Level 14 crawler. |
| 02:18.52 | Wyzard | mkde: And make sure you have a backup of your keys |
| 02:18.55 | mkde | Wyzard, sorry that I'm so full of questions, but since you're so helpful... what is the best way to get my public key back from a keyserver? |
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| 02:19.28 | Wyzard | mkde: --search-keys or --recv-keys... provided you've actually put your key on a server, that is |
| 02:19.34 | mkde | yes i did |
| 02:19.38 | mkde | once upon a time |
| 02:19.59 | DeFuEgO | obtix you'll have to look in to it further - I have always used moduled with alsa so I'm not sure with compiled in but you may find some docs in the source tree or other means of tracking your sound problem - Google ?? alsa web-site etc. |
| 02:20.05 | Wyzard | mkde: Also, I'm pretty sure the public key is stored in the private keyfile too, so there should be a way to extract it and store it back to the public keyring |
| 02:20.12 | mkde | ooh |
| 02:20.22 | Wyzard | mkde: Just delete (well, rename for safety) the pubring.gpg and create a new one |
| 02:20.25 | madclicker | abrotman: courier-pop is installed how do i tell it to use mbox instead of maildir? |
| 02:20.28 | obtix | alright, ill just ignore sound for now |
| 02:20.38 | abrotman | obtix: i'm 51% sure that alsa doesn't work compiled in |
| 02:20.43 | mkde | Wyzard, right ok, thanks again |
| 02:20.51 | abrotman | madclicker: why wouldn't you use maildir? |
| 02:20.56 | Wyzard | mkde: It's also not a bad idea to generate a revocation certificate and keep it somewhere safe, so that if your private key ever does really get lost, you can at least revoke it |
| 02:21.06 | mkde | Wyzard, yeah i have one iirc |
| 02:21.16 | obtix | abrotman: ok, thanks.. ill try to fix that later i have to get this machine running with a few other things and im sure ill be back in a few minutes with other problems :-) |
| 02:21.20 | mkde | Wyzard, the search-keys thing seems to time out after finding the key |
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| 02:21.30 | madclicker | abrotman: i already have everybodies mail in /var/mail/$user |
| 02:21.39 | Wyzard | mkde: I'm not sure of a straightforward way to do that, though -- last I checked, generating a revocation certificate with GPG automatically applied it to the key, so I had to do it by making backups of the keyrings and then restoring them when I was done |
| 02:21.50 | Wyzard | mkde: You have to specify a keyserver with the --keyserver option |
| 02:22.03 | abrotman | madclicker: oh .. that sucks .. |
| 02:22.07 | mkde | Wyzard, it finds them ok, but then when i select which one to download, it seems to stop |
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| 02:22.18 | madclicker | abrotman: welcome to my life |
| 02:22.24 | Wyzard | mkde: ah... dunno about that, sorry |
| 02:22.42 | mkde | Wyzard, np |
| 02:23.14 | abrotman | madclicker: at least you still have both your testicles |
| 02:23.19 | mkde | Wyzard, now its not even getting to that stage, perhaps the keyserver has just gone down |
| 02:23.24 | Wyzard | mkde: btw, you can scan your hard drive using "badblocks"... I'd use the nondestructive write-mode test, but you can only do that when the filesystem is unmounted |
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| 02:23.44 | mkde | Wyzard, ok thanks will do |
| 02:23.50 | Wyzard | mkde: so if your /home is on your root filesystem, you'll need to boot something else (like Knoppix or the Debian install CD) to do it |
| 02:23.56 | madclicker | abrotman: true that |
| 02:24.12 | abrotman | madclicker: isn't there a pop3 config file in /etc/courier ? |
| 02:25.13 | madclicker | abrotman: yeap but the derivative is "MAILDIRPATH=Maildir" |
| 02:25.42 | abrotman | madclicker: lemee check .. i've always used it with maildir .. and you didn't say otherwise |
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| 02:26.24 | abrotman | madclicker: the man page says it doesn't do mbox .. grr .. sorry .. you didn't say you didn't have maildir .. my deepest apologies |
| 02:26.36 | abrotman | madclicker: though . there is mbox2maildir :) |
| 02:26.39 | mkde | Wyzard, actually i think i may have found a half-decent backup of the public ring, is it ok just to rename the existing one and replace it with the backup? |
| 02:26.49 | Wyzard | mkde: Should be OK |
| 02:26.56 | mkde | yay |
| 02:26.58 | mkde | its worked |
| 02:27.12 | mkde | it must be an automatic backup |
| 02:27.13 | Wyzard | mkde: Just to be sure, try encrypting something to yourself and then decrypting it, but I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work |
| 02:27.15 | madclicker | abrotman: am i sol? |
| 02:27.24 | mkde | Wyzard, *nods& |
| 02:27.37 | abrotman | madclicker: with courier yes .. i didn't realize you were using mbox . sorry |
| 02:27.52 | madclicker | abrotman: not much choicees i have |
| 02:27.59 | furrywolf | playing around with super-seed mode... I like! clients that don't upload don't get any data. |
| 02:28.07 | abrotman | dovecot didn't work ? |
| 02:28.34 | abrotman | i've heard teapop is good .. but .. never used it |
| 02:29.02 | madclicker | abrotman: partialy, for some users ok for some it kept creating ~/mail/.imap and complaining that cant write to it |
| 02:29.14 | furrywolf | I still have my bandwidth pegged at maximum, but now the same bandwidth is doing far more to help the torrents... |
| 02:29.15 | furrywolf | brb |
| 02:29.20 | abrotman | madclicker: sticky bit? |
| 02:29.21 | mkde | Wyzard, tested and working: brilliant! |
| 02:29.23 | mkde | thanks |
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| 02:29.32 | Wyzard | mkde: np, now go make that backup :-) |
| 02:29.33 | mkde | Wyzard, obviously gpg keeps a backup for me... |
| 02:29.40 | mkde | Wyzard, will do |
| 02:29.41 | madclicker | abrotman: i set oll files to 0660 |
| 02:29.41 | obtix | proftpd or wu-ftp server for ftp server behind a router? |
| 02:29.48 | abrotman | that's not sticky |
| 02:29.51 | Guerin | obtix: vsftpd |
| 02:30.05 | mkde | Wyzard, thing is, I backup my home directory quite regularly, so the corrupted file had been backed up since being corrupted |
| 02:30.06 | madclicker | abrotman: 4660 |
| 02:30.12 | Wyzard | mkde: ah, ok |
| 02:30.16 | mkde | Wyzard, i'll keep a separate one of my keys |
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| 02:31.03 | Wyzard | mkde: Yeah... your GPG keys aren't supposed to change, so overwriting previous backups with the current copy is just asking for trouble |
| 02:31.08 | jaime_alberto | I have followed the dsl howto but I can't make that dsl modem work! It doesn't respond to dhcp nor pppoe what can I do? someone, please tell me |
| 02:31.09 | Xenguy | Does anyone know if there is Vim magic to take a text file composed of paragraphs wrapped at 64 columns, and transform each paragraph into one long line |
| 02:31.12 | Xenguy | ? |
| 02:31.25 | abrotman | madclicker: apt-cache search pop3 server .. find one that works :) |
| 02:31.28 | Guerin | Xenguy: trivial in emacs :) |
| 02:31.40 | Xenguy | Guerin: non-responsive :-) |
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| 02:31.59 | abrotman | Xenguy: magic ? |
| 02:32.04 | abrotman | Xenguy: you mean at one time ? |
| 02:32.19 | Xenguy | abrotman: no, all in one shot |
| 02:32.41 | omi | jaime_alberto, I had similar problem with rogers cable service , they need to respond to a hostname that they give you, otherwise it doesn't give ip :( |
| 02:32.42 | abrotman | Xenguy: i know J(shift+j) will join lines |
| 02:32.43 | mkde | Wyzard, yeah i c |
| 02:32.49 | Xenguy | I want to transform the file, and still maintain the blank line between paragraphs |
| 02:32.53 | dabreegster | Xenguy: #vim might now |
| 02:32.54 | Xenguy | abrotman: nod |
| 02:33.01 | omi | jaime_alberto, not sure if it is the same thing, but try |
| 02:33.03 | dabreegster | Xenguy: probably something to do with textwidth=0 or whatever |
| 02:33.13 | mkde | Wyzard, should I be uploading the key after I import friends into it? or it is ok just to have uploaded it once to keyservers? |
| 02:33.14 | Xenguy | dabreegster: I'm there now, but so far no go |
| 02:33.18 | abrotman | Xenguy: if you knew the character that made .. the end of the line .. but it would be hard to differentiate between the next line of a sentence .. and a new paragraph |
| 02:33.33 | dabreegster | Xenguy: just wait; they idle a lot |
| 02:33.38 | Xenguy | abrotman: yep, exactly |
| 02:33.43 | Xenguy | dabreegster: nod |
| 02:33.46 | Wyzard | mkde: Anytime you get new signatures on your key, you should upload it again so those signatures are available to others |
| 02:33.57 | dabreegster | Xenguy: there's a 'fmt' command that could help maybe |
| 02:34.08 | abrotman | Xenguy: is every line exactly 64 chars wide unless the end of a paragraph ? |
| 02:34.13 | Xenguy | dabreegster: I'll check that out |
| 02:34.16 | dabreegster | Xenguy: if you want to show action, do /me ACTION_IN_THIRD_PERSON |
| 02:34.17 | Xenguy | dabreegster: tx |
| 02:34.33 | mkde | Wyzard, what about when I import other people into my keyring that I sign? maybe this is a dumb question but I'm not 100% sure how it works |
| 02:34.35 | abrotman | i think Xenguy knows how to use irc :) |
| 02:34.36 | abrotman | i think |
| 02:34.37 | Xenguy | abrotman: in this case, a maximum of 64 characters |
| 02:34.48 | abrotman | Xenguy: eww .. sounds ugly! |
| 02:35.07 | scorphus | I once used a program to limit the transfer rate of a download (i.e. <program_name> -t10240 apt-get -dist-upgrade -dfy) but I forgot the name. Anyone knows of it? |
| 02:35.08 | dabreegster | abrotman: it's annoying when people don't use /me or use it for the wrong reasons |
| 02:35.12 | Wyzard | mkde: Either you or they should upload their updated key too |
| 02:35.15 | abrotman | scorphus: trickle |
| 02:35.32 | jaime_alberto | omi: I can't contact the isp and the client is a windoze with no clue about how it was configured, someone aroud here has configured an dsl modem from epm (Colombia)? |
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| 02:35.36 | scorphus | abrotman: thx, lemme try it |
| 02:35.39 | dabreegster | scorphus: I think some download managers like wget can do that, but I dont think it can wrap around apt |
| 02:35.40 | Wyzard | mkde: Basically, anytime a key acquires a new signature, it should be uploaded again so that signature is available to the public |
| 02:35.43 | Xenguy | abrotman: it's just regular text (i.e. not right justified) |
| 02:35.51 | abrotman | dabreegster: trickle supposedly can |
| 02:36.01 | Drako60 | i'm getting a RIP !INEXACT! then kernel panic in interrupt handler - not syncing, tried napic and apci=off to no avail |
| 02:36.01 | scorphus | dabreegster: yeah, that's why I used it |
| 02:36.12 | mkde | Wyzard, but if I import and sign a key, i don't send it back to them normally... i just keep it in my keyring for my bnefit |
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| 02:36.26 | dabreegster | SWEET. This'll be super-useful on dialup. |
| 02:36.36 | mkde | Wyzard, i'm a total gpg noob |
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| 02:37.01 | Wyzard | mkde: You should send the signed key back, or upload it to the server so they can download it |
| 02:37.05 | omi | jaime_alberto, oh you need username/password :) |
| 02:37.10 | mkde | Wyzard, i c |
| 02:37.16 | omi | I'm sure you can extract it from registry somewhere |
| 02:37.23 | Wyzard | mkde: That way, anyone who trusts you to sign only keys that you know to be authentic, can trust that your friend's key really belongs to the person whose name is on it |
| 02:37.32 | slackmf | can anyone point me in the right direction to disabling keyboard+mouse via a script? or is this even possible from a script? |
| 02:37.37 | mkde | Wyzard, i see ok! |
| 02:37.39 | abrotman | dabreegster: feel better? |
| 02:37.40 | mkde | Wyzard, thanks |
| 02:37.50 | dabreegster | slackmf: disabling as in how? blocking signals? |
| 02:37.53 | abrotman | dabreegster: and iirc .. netbrake compiles on sarge too |
| 02:37.54 | The_Ultimate_Sam | how do i do a search on dpkg? |
| 02:38.01 | slackmf | dabreegster: that would be fine, yes |
| 02:38.02 | abrotman | !tell The_Ultimate_Sam about search |
| 02:38.07 | dabreegster | abrotman: Much. Maybe something will happen at school tomorrow that'll be good. |
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| 02:38.12 | mkde | Wyzard, i gtg now, thanks very much for your help |
| 02:38.16 | dabreegster | abrotman: I'll check it out |
| 02:38.19 | abrotman | dabreegster: like getting laid at school ? :) |
| 02:38.23 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ? |
| 02:38.29 | abrotman | !search |
| 02:38.29 | dpkg | i heard search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 02:38.38 | Guerin | nothing wrong with getting laid at school |
| 02:38.41 | The_Ultimate_Sam | a search on dpkg |
| 02:38.41 | jaime_alberto | omi: It seems to be bridged/dhcp and to autenticate by mac address but when I try to run dhcp in the device it doesn't work |
| 02:38.44 | dabreegster | abrotman: Not quite. More like a decent conversation with the girl I like. |
| 02:38.47 | abrotman | Guerin: you teach children! |
| 02:38.49 | Guerin | though I will again mention the 'depends which school' caveat |
| 02:38.50 | The_Ultimate_Sam | not in consol |
| 02:38.52 | dabreegster | Guerin: I'm 13 |
| 02:39.02 | The_Ultimate_Sam | u know the bot |
| 02:39.11 | Guerin | dabreegster: i guess you'll have to try a bit harder then, hmm? |
| 02:39.26 | Guerin | abrotman: I didn't ALWAYS teach children, you know. |
| 02:39.27 | The_Ultimate_Sam | its like keysearch or keylist or keyblade or something |
| 02:39.39 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:39.48 | abrotman | The_Ultimate_Sam: it tells you .. right there! |
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| 02:39.52 | omi | jaime_alberto, in most dsl setups you need to authenticate by username/password |
| 02:39.57 | abrotman | The_Ultimate_Sam: what are you searching for? |
| 02:40.01 | Guerin | omi: most? |
| 02:40.07 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i just saw that |
| 02:40.15 | shroom2 | I'm trying to increment a variable in Make. |
| 02:40.15 | shroom2 | %.cont.php: $(loremcont) |
| 02:40.15 | shroom2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:40.16 | shroom2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:40.25 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i just saw thatim currious what www-data is in my processes |
| 02:40.28 | abrotman | so not the right channel ? |
| 02:40.35 | abrotman | The_Ultimate_Sam: apache |
| 02:40.55 | omi | Guerin, well I'm thinking if you just have a copper loop and bridge on both sides there's no need for authentication |
| 02:40.57 | jaime_alberto | that's in pppoe dsl but this must be bridged/dhcp |
| 02:40.59 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i have an apache going from root |
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| 02:41.16 | The_Ultimate_Sam | and a bunch from www-data |
| 02:41.21 | shroom2 | %.cont.php: $(loremcont) |
| 02:41.21 | shroom2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.21 | shroom2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.26 | sussudio | shroom2: stop it moron |
| 02:41.27 | abrotman | shroom2: fucking stop you moron |
| 02:41.29 | The_Ultimate_Sam | just making sure it was normal |
| 02:41.39 | abrotman | shroom2: and .. wrong channel |
| 02:41.40 | scorphus | shroom2: /msg dpkg paster |
| 02:41.45 | Guerin | !and what the fuck does that have to do with debian? |
| 02:41.48 | abrotman | scorphus: wrong chanel |
| 02:42.03 | abrotman | Guerin: now you made a factoid i think |
| 02:42.04 | shroom2 | I'm not sure exactly when I was kicked, didn't know what got thru. |
| 02:42.11 | abrotman | it doesn't matter . |
| 02:42.17 | Guerin | shroom2: don't fucking paste in here, ever. |
| 02:42.18 | shroom2 | this channel is actually active, #bash isn't. |
| 02:42.22 | Cyis | hmmm... anyone using openafs? |
| 02:42.29 | abrotman | shroom2: so what .. doesn't make this the rigth place to ask |
| 02:42.35 | Guerin | shroom2: and ask in a channel which actually relates remotely to your uestion |
| 02:42.42 | shroom2 | dude, you're hackers. You like solving stuff. |
| 02:42.45 | abrotman | and that's not a #bash question either |
| 02:42.46 | shroom2 | sheez |
| 02:42.46 | scorphus | abrotman: sorry |
| 02:42.49 | abrotman | shroom2: which distro ? |
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| 02:42.59 | shroom2 | distro??? it's makefile! |
| 02:43.04 | abrotman | right .. exactly |
| 02:43.08 | madclicker | how do i install a deb file? |
| 02:43.14 | abrotman | #debian is wrong .. #bash is wrong too afaik |
| 02:43.18 | gravity | madclicker: dpkg -i |
| 02:43.20 | abrotman | madclicker: man dpkg |
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| 02:43.48 | abrotman | maybe #gnu ? |
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| 02:44.18 | abrotman | or ##linux ? |
| 02:44.32 | abrotman | or google.com ? |
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| 02:44.55 | obtix | ok, im missing something stupid here... i just gave my computer a static ip addy and my resolv.conf file is right but i cant resolv hostnames |
| 02:44.59 | stouset | Well this is odd. |
| 02:45.06 | Drako60 | hmm i'm not finding anything that gives any hints on how to work around this kernel panic |
| 02:45.19 | stouset | My entire system feels...sluggish. But the hard drive is idle, i'm at 95% free CPU and I have plenty of memory (300MB+) |
| 02:45.41 | stouset | Windows take awhile for their contents to refresh. Playing a DVD was nearly impossible. |
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| 02:46.26 | stouset | =\ |
| 02:46.26 | Xenguy | stouset: what does 'top' show? |
| 02:46.39 | aum | hi - pstops and psresize both ignore "-pa4" and "-wnnn -hnnn" when the input file is size a5 |
| 02:46.44 | stouset | CPU around 20% now. |
| 02:47.00 | stouset | XFree spikes to 20% when I send a message on gaim, then drops down. |
| 02:47.09 | stouset | Gaim is low until I send a message, at which point it spikes to 20%. |
| 02:47.26 | stouset | Now everything is low. But the second I started typing, gaim shot up to 25%. |
| 02:47.28 | Guerin | stouset: what video card and driver? How fast is the machine? how much ram? |
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| 02:48.19 | abrotman | stouset: you need keyboard acceleration! |
| 02:48.29 | Xenguy | hehe |
| 02:48.37 | stouset | Radeon Mobility 9000 M9. Never had a problem with it before. 512MB of memory. Free shows 386680 free (-/+ buffers/cache). It's a 1.5GHz Pentium M, and it's not being downclocked (power is plugged in). |
| 02:49.01 | Guerin | stouset: beats me. |
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| 02:49.06 | stouset | abrotman: Ah, of course ;) But I only have a standard laptop keyboard. Are there accelerated drivers in the kernel, or am I stuck with only keyboard emulation? ;( |
| 02:49.12 | Guerin | are you using gnome or kde? |
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| 02:49.24 | stouset | Guerin: Me, too =\ Usually when this sort of thing happens it turns out that I'm running updatedb or such in the background from a cron job. |
| 02:49.28 | abrotman | stouset: i just used water :) |
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| 02:49.49 | stouset | Hehe. |
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| 02:50.02 | stouset | Also, this is after a fresh reboot =\ |
| 02:50.04 | bucky | who had that link to a picture of Stallman with an Argentine Developer who coincidentally looked strikingly similar to Stallman himself? |
| 02:50.08 | abrotman | then i hit r .. i get rk .. works great! |
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| 02:50.21 | wax | hello |
| 02:50.22 | stouset | abrotman: Damn, that's efficient. Half the typing! |
| 02:50.41 | abrotman | stouset: and i end up with the same content in my emails as my boss! :) |
| 02:50.44 | stouset | abrotman: Is there a way to rig the keyboard so that when I hit enter, it types a term paper? |
| 02:50.49 | RaCarter | can anyone help me with useradd? |
| 02:50.49 | wax | anyone famaliar with the 'patch' utility? |
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| 02:50.51 | RaCarter | on debian |
| 02:50.55 | obtix | ok, im missing something stupid here... i just gave my computer a static ip addy and my resolv.conf file is right but i cant resolv hostnames |
| 02:50.58 | abrotman | adduser ? |
| 02:50.59 | stouset | RaCarter: Whaddya need? |
| 02:51.05 | scorphus | abrotman: it is very like trickle, but no setup or daemon needed. It seems to me that's something like netbrake |
| 02:51.07 | RaCarter | I'm reading the man pages on useradd and it says default settings are read from /etc/default/useradd |
| 02:51.08 | stouset | obtix: Are you sure the DNS server is responding? |
| 02:51.08 | rectum | RaCarter: man useradd |
| 02:51.12 | abrotman | obtix: at all? |
| 02:51.15 | RaCarter | but I cannot find any such file |
| 02:51.16 | m3t00 | i got on my machine this morning, and was having some troubles. what i found was /usr was at 100%, something or someone(remote(owned?)).... |
| 02:51.23 | abrotman | RaCarter: are you root ? |
| 02:51.29 | omi | Is there an open source utility that encodes into RealMedia files? |
| 02:51.33 | obtix | stouset abrotman : well when i get my up from dhcp (same dns servers) it works :-P |
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| 02:51.39 | m3t00 | had written three files in /usr/share/archives/..... |
| 02:51.42 | rectum | omi: i doubt it |
| 02:51.51 | stouset | m3t00: all my partitions are under 75% capacity =\ |
| 02:52.02 | abrotman | obtix: is it your DHCP server? |
| 02:52.06 | rectum | to encode in real format you have to buy the real encoder |
| 02:52.09 | Guerin | stouset: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ |
| 02:52.10 | m3t00 | mymachinehome_something.tgz 16G... |
| 02:52.14 | bucky | !ar |
| 02:52.15 | dpkg | i guess ar is argon or a program to create, modify, and extract from archives (man ar), or in binutils |
| 02:52.16 | obtix | abrotman: no, im not that dumb :-P |
| 02:52.25 | rectum | obtix: how dumb? |
| 02:52.25 | m3t00 | mymachineetc_something.tgz... |
| 02:52.27 | rectum | ;) |
| 02:52.32 | Guerin | never use realmedia files for anything, ever. |
| 02:52.38 | abrotman | obtix: are you trying to use an IP from your cable/dsl ? |
| 02:52.38 | m3t00 | and md5sums for them, any ideas? |
| 02:52.39 | rectum | real sucks |
| 02:52.44 | flowtech | hey. did anybody encounter the problem of not being able to create an executable with ghdl? it creates some object files that i can't really do anything about |
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| 02:52.51 | obtix | abrotman: nope.. not that dumb either :-) |
| 02:52.59 | rectum | obtix: then how dumb? |
| 02:53.00 | RaCarter | ok /etc/default/useradd is not there at all |
| 02:53.01 | m3t00 | this is an amd64 1G 80g |
| 02:53.02 | rectum | :D |
| 02:53.08 | abrotman | obtix: just making sure .. you'd be surprised :) |
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| 02:53.19 | obtix | abrotman: i actually think something is wrong maybe permissions of the resolv.conf? |
| 02:53.27 | bucky | real only sucks on windows |
| 02:53.33 | abrotman | obtix: mine is 644 |
| 02:53.35 | bucky | helix sucks on linux |
| 02:53.46 | abrotman | at least they try |
| 02:54.11 | obtix | abrotman: ok that wasnt it :-\ |
| 02:54.17 | m3t00 | stoouset, did you catch the rest of that? |
| 02:54.21 | m3t00 | oops |
| 02:54.26 | m3t00 | caintspell |
| 02:54.38 | abrotman | obtix: what happens when you say "nslookup www.yahoo.com" ? |
| 02:54.44 | RaCarter | even as root I do not see an /etc/default/useradd file |
| 02:54.51 | Guerin | no, real sucks everywhere |
| 02:54.56 | RaCarter | does anyone know where debian is getting default values for useradd? |
| 02:54.58 | Guerin | it actually sucks LESS on windows than on unix |
| 02:55.08 | abrotman | from the script maybe? |
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| 02:55.22 | obtix | abrotman: well a ping gives me unknown host |
| 02:55.24 | stouset | RaCarter: the script probably defines default values. Check /usr/share/doc/useradd/examples for a sample config file |
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| 02:55.36 | abrotman | obtix: ping isn't nslookup |
| 02:55.38 | rectum | what is the difference between adduser and useradd |
| 02:55.48 | abrotman | afaik ...none |
| 02:55.53 | abrotman | they used to be different |
| 02:56.13 | abrotman | oh .. well .. they are different sizes |
| 02:56.16 | rectum | they have different description in man page |
| 02:56.22 | RaCarter | useradd is a script? |
| 02:56.23 | bucky | Real on windows is thinly disguised spyware |
| 02:56.24 | rectum | useradd - Create a new user or update default new user information |
| 02:56.30 | abrotman | one used to just put the entry in /etc/passwd .. while the other would do everything .. homedir etc |
| 02:56.33 | rectum | adduser, addgroup - add a user or group to the system |
| 02:56.36 | obtix | abrotman well i dont have dnsutils and i cant apt get it due to lack of nameservers |
| 02:56.37 | obtix | :-P |
| 02:56.42 | obtix | abrotman brb, im gonna try something |
| 02:56.45 | abrotman | obtix: host? |
| 02:56.46 | abrotman | dig? |
| 02:56.57 | bucky | Real on linux has better video quality than mpeg |
| 02:57.26 | rectum | screw real |
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| 02:58.05 | bucky | real is better up the rectum |
| 02:58.10 | RaCarter | why does the man page lie to me? |
| 02:58.18 | abrotman | !lie to me |
| 02:58.23 | abrotman | :( |
| 02:58.37 | Pythos | !start a manpage war |
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| 02:58.39 | bucky | why can't johnny read |
| 02:58.49 | RaCarter | yeah man useradd says it gets default values from /etc/default/useradd |
| 02:58.53 | RaCarter | but there is no such file |
| 02:58.53 | IDC | I have a 8139 ethernet card,in kernel however,there are 2 realtek 8139,one is 8139c+,another is 8139,which one i should pick up with ? |
| 02:59.21 | dan2 | realtek cards suck |
| 02:59.24 | dan2 | big time |
| 02:59.28 | dan2 | don't use them in routers |
| 02:59.36 | IDC | dan2, ok |
| 02:59.38 | Pythos | IM seeking advice on the stock kernels and transparent proxy. Any gurus? |
| 02:59.43 | bucky | RaCarter, forget useradd and man adduser |
| 02:59.43 | bisy | obtix: whack entries for security.debian.org and ftp.debian.org in /etc/hosts as a temporary measure. |
| 02:59.47 | dan2 | IDC: buy 2 or 3 linksys 10/100 |
| 02:59.48 | abrotman | dan2: uhm duh? |
| 02:59.50 | RaCarter | I don't like adduser |
| 03:00.01 | IDC | dan2, i am a home user |
| 03:00.03 | dan2 | adduser is nice |
| 03:00.16 | obtix | abrotman: ok i think its fixed.. i think it was the lack of dnsutils :-P |
| 03:00.17 | bucky | RaCarter, then you could make your own /etc/default/useradd |
| 03:00.19 | omi | Guerin, why not use real media many people have it |
| 03:00.20 | IDC | should i select 8139 or 8138c+ ? |
| 03:00.24 | RaCarter | when I created a user with adduser, the user has a different PATH variable then what is set in /etc/profile |
| 03:00.29 | Gozar | why does realtek cards suck? |
| 03:00.31 | flowtech | "bad character in identifier"? what could be the meaning of that? |
| 03:00.34 | obtix | abrotman: at least other nic of the two is working when one is down which gives me a better starting point |
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| 03:00.48 | omi | cannot get more than 3MB/sec from them |
| 03:00.48 | RaCarter | I'd like to know where the path is being set so I can change it |
| 03:00.49 | Shirc | 8139 idc |
| 03:01.03 | omi | 3c59x cards are really nice it can do 9.1 MB/sec |
| 03:01.20 | abrotman | obtix: maybe make sure the right one is plugged in? |
| 03:01.27 | RaCarter | I don't see anything in the . files of the new user created |
| 03:01.46 | obtix | abrotman: they both are.. they are linked together because this is going to be a fileserver |
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| 03:02.05 | omi | rectum, why do you hate real? (other then what they used to do before) |
| 03:02.05 | abrotman | obtix: channel bonding ? |
| 03:02.14 | obtix | abrotman yeah |
| 03:02.15 | abrotman | what do youmean before? |
| 03:02.18 | abrotman | they still do it |
| 03:02.52 | scorphus | I once used a program to limit the transfer rate of a download (<program_name> -t <rate> <download_command>) but I forgot its name. Anyone knows of it? (it is not trickle nor wondershaper) |
| 03:03.12 | abrotman | scorphus: netbrake ? |
| 03:03.19 | jmd | where the hell are the bibtex *.bst files in Sarge? |
| 03:03.26 | abrotman | scorphus: and it's not in debian |
| 03:03.32 | jmd | I can't see them in textex-* |
| 03:03.33 | scorphus | abrotman: it used to be but I can't find it... |
| 03:03.33 | Drako60 | CPU 0: Machine check exception: 4 bank 4: b200000000070f0f RIP !INEXACT! 10:<ffffffffa001c7a47> {ide_inb+ox4/ox10[ide_core]} TSC 10ff21fc28 Kernel Panic: Machine Check In Interrupt handler - not syncing |
| 03:03.39 | Drako60 | anyone have any clue on that error? |
| 03:03.40 | scorphus | ah... thats why then |
| 03:03.43 | jmd | are they supposed to be generated? |
| 03:03.44 | abrotman | scorphus: it compiles i'm pretty sure |
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| 03:03.51 | cafuego | is it wrong to say "Yes, i have jumper cables, but you drive an SUV, so I won't help you." ? |
| 03:03.57 | jmd | If so, it's not working. |
| 03:03.58 | scorphus | abrotman: now I recall corectly, thanks a lot! |
| 03:04.06 | caphuso | cafuego: no, not at all |
| 03:04.16 | scorphus | abrotman: sorry for re-posting my question |
| 03:04.17 | Gozar | I do own 2 realtek cards. and are quyerus why they suck! |
| 03:04.45 | abrotman | cafuego: did you add "What the fuck else do you carry around in that gas guzzling pile of crap?" |
| 03:04.47 | IDC | In my current default kernel i do 'lspci' there is "Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01) |
| 03:04.54 | cafuego | Gozar: My realteks used to crash the scsi subsystem when the network was moving data at or over 75% of capacity |
| 03:05.00 | IDC | does that mean i DO have sound support in kernel already ? |
| 03:05.04 | cafuego | abrotman: no, I just drove away |
| 03:05.18 | abrotman | cafuego: oh well .. |
| 03:05.25 | obtix | ok, back to my original sound problem.. i got alsaconf to find my card and configure it which was nice but i still get the same message when trying to play an mp3 in mpg123 "cant find suitable libao driver" |
| 03:05.40 | abrotman | obtix: wait . it's a server ? |
| 03:06.08 | obtix | abrotman: its going to be a fileserver but it will also be hosting movies for my TV... not a crucial server :-P |
| 03:06.15 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 03:06.30 | obtix | abrotman its a p3 1ghz i had laying around |
| 03:06.56 | abrotman | obtix: like i said before .. i'm pretty sure you can't have alsa compiled in |
| 03:07.36 | abrotman | ok . 51% sure |
| 03:07.46 | m3t00 | so my question is who/what is writing, as owner root(not me) on this laptop, files: mymachinenamehome_backup.gz, ymachinenameetc_backup.gz and md3sums? |
| 03:07.48 | stouset | abrotman: Damn, that's pretty sure. |
| 03:07.50 | obtix | abrotman: its not... i redid my kernel... i do like 5 things at once always and its a module now and alsoconf was able to detect the card and said it configured it but i am still getting the same error when i play something in mpg123 so you were right about the also compiled in part :-) so be 100% sure |
| 03:08.01 | stouset | m3t00: check cron? |
| 03:08.06 | m3t00 | in /usr/share/archives |
| 03:08.12 | Gozar | cafurgo: Okay. I only have ide interface, and have no problems what so ever with stable. Was getting swety for a moment there! |
| 03:08.13 | m3t00 | okeh |
| 03:08.23 | m3t00 | thanks |
| 03:08.26 | abrotman | obtix: what error ? |
| 03:08.47 | DeFuEgO | libao is lib-aout package should work with emu10k1 |
| 03:09.16 | obtix | abrotman: "Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)" and its not in use |
| 03:09.26 | abrotman | ok .. no idea |
| 03:09.32 | abrotman | google or ask #alsa maybe? |
| 03:09.46 | obtix | DeFuEgO: where is i get that? |
| 03:10.08 | DeFuEgO | I'm sarge 3.2 /w alsa - emu10k1 working fine |
| 03:10.16 | Guerin | sarge 3.2? |
| 03:10.18 | Guerin | leet |
| 03:10.20 | Drako60 | so no one has any clue why i'm getting a CPU 0: Machine check exception? |
| 03:10.23 | Guerin | where can I get it? |
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| 03:10.45 | DeFuEgO | wait let me see my version of lib-aout |
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| 03:11.01 | steve_ | hello |
| 03:11.12 | m3t00 | dang stouset, why didn't i think of that!, thanks :-| |
| 03:11.19 | DeFuEgO | I/you can check with dselect |
| 03:11.24 | steve_ | i tried to make debian packages with make-jpkg, but i get this error |
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| 03:11.36 | steve_ | its 3 lines- should i post it? |
| 03:11.41 | abrotman | or apt-cache show |
| 03:12.27 | YouCeyE | hello, my alsa setup seems not to have /dev/mixer. some programs are not running as they r checking for it. Any way to fix it? |
| 03:12.32 | obtix | hrm.. libao-dev and libao2 maybe? |
| 03:12.43 | steve_ | Creating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.XXXXK8uWLV |
| 03:12.43 | steve_ | Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk.sh |
| 03:12.43 | steve_ | No matching plugin was found. |
| 03:12.44 | obtix | hrm.. maybe not :-( |
| 03:12.48 | stouset | m3t00: because clearly I am superior =D What was it? |
| 03:12.56 | YouCeyE | but i get programs running which depend on alsa.. |
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| 03:13.59 | cafuego | stouset: Sorry, there is only one person here who is superior, and it's not you. |
| 03:14.02 | DeFuEgO | I found libao2 not installed cause I'm using discrete modules |
| 03:14.20 | m3t00 | hehe |
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| 03:14.31 | DeFuEgO | you may need this package if you have sound compiled in |
| 03:14.33 | m3t00 | no doubt about it in this case |
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| 03:15.00 | obtix | DeFuEgO what package? sound is now a module because alsa only works as module |
| 03:15.15 | cafuego | 'Filename is too long to store in the Recycle bin' |
| 03:15.16 | RaCarter | can anyone help me figure out why $PATH variables for new users I create in debian are not the same as the one specified in /etc/profile? |
| 03:15.18 | m3t00 | backup-manager in cron(as you suggested), to run 0 4 1 * * whateber that is |
| 03:15.20 | cafuego | windows just keeps amazing me |
| 03:15.35 | gravity | Wow, that's impressive |
| 03:15.39 | gravity | How long is the file name? |
| 03:15.52 | cafuego | gravity: few thousand chars |
| 03:16.00 | madclicker | anyone here heard of tmda? |
| 03:16.04 | cafuego | Well, few hundred maybe, actuall |
| 03:16.29 | gravity | wow |
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| 03:16.48 | gravity | madclicker: Only in reference to cellular phones |
| 03:16.53 | cafuego | Just some cookie file windows made all by itself |
| 03:17.12 | gravity | cute |
| 03:17.25 | DeFuEgO | you have all sound compiled in ? , or do you have some sound modules too |
| 03:17.39 | Guerin | madclicker: never use tmda |
| 03:17.40 | Guerin | ever |
| 03:17.55 | Guerin | and whatever you dop, don't get Karsten started about it |
| 03:17.58 | YouCeyE | DeFuEgO, i have all modules |
| 03:18.02 | RaCarter | yo |
| 03:18.05 | RaCarter | I found out something |
| 03:18.11 | RaCarter | when I log in via ssh |
| 03:18.22 | Guerin | RaCarter: you are only allowed 20 characters per line? |
| 03:18.25 | RaCarter | my $PATH variable is the same as in /etc/profile |
| 03:18.29 | gravity | Oh, *that* tmda. Yeah, evil |
| 03:18.31 | RaCarter | but not when I su to a different user |
| 03:18.43 | DeFuEgO | then lsmod to see if there are sound mods loaded |
| 03:18.46 | gravity | RaCarter: su - |
| 03:18.46 | Guerin | RaCarter: no shit. |
| 03:18.52 | RaCarter | why? |
| 03:19.01 | gravity | RaCarter: You forgot the - |
| 03:19.04 | Guerin | one is a login shell, one ain't |
| 03:19.04 | YouCeyE | DeFuEgO, yes they are |
| 03:19.07 | YouCeyE | snd_pcm_oss 47524 0 |
| 03:19.07 | YouCeyE | snd_mixer_oss 17024 1 snd_pcm_oss |
| 03:19.18 | YouCeyE | but i still dont see /dev/mixer |
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| 03:19.26 | RaCarter | well when I su I have some $PATH |
| 03:19.29 | gravity | Oh, nm. Guerin knows better than me. |
| 03:19.33 | RaCarter | I just don't get where that path is defined |
| 03:19.35 | DeFuEgO | try modprobe sound |
| 03:19.43 | gravity | I always forget about the login vs non-login shell thing. |
| 03:19.49 | YouCeyE | i get sound.. |
| 03:19.53 | YouCeyE | but no /dev/mixer |
| 03:20.07 | YouCeyE | sound not found |
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| 03:20.38 | obtix | ok.. back to my network problem.. eth1 is working great eth0 is not resolving host names which is odd the cards are on the same controller and bonded :-P |
| 03:21.49 | DeFuEgO | does /usr/bin/aumix work ? |
| 03:22.31 | obtix | DeFuEgO: well back to the sound problem.. i think it is a driver issue i am trying something now.. i will get back to you and let you know what it is i am recompiling the kernel as we speak |
| 03:22.46 | DeFuEgO | OK |
| 03:22.49 | DeFuEgO | good |
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| 03:23.54 | YouCeyE | DeFuEgO, alsamix works.. kmix works |
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| 03:24.33 | RaCarter | ok next issue with $PATH |
| 03:24.40 | Drako60 | ok i found the problem to my CPU Machine check exception, dma not working properly |
| 03:24.53 | edgar | quick question... How does a person reboot a system remotely that has switched itself to read-only? |
| 03:24.55 | EvanCarroll | YouCeyE: what is your problem? |
| 03:25.01 | RaCarter | the path is set as it is in /etc/profile when I log in via ssh.. but not when I log in through gdm |
| 03:25.06 | DeFuEgO | anyway modprobe snd should insert snd_mixer_oss |
| 03:25.19 | EvanCarroll | edgar: tellinit? |
| 03:25.21 | YouCeyE | EvanCarroll, my alsa setup does not have /dev/mixer |
| 03:25.22 | obtix | DeFuEgO thats what i think the problem is |
| 03:25.23 | edgar | I think i'm having raid controller issues.. :( |
| 03:25.27 | YouCeyE | so some programs do not work.. |
| 03:25.34 | shimano55 | Question, What is the command for the dpkg to get the info on how to install cups? |
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| 03:25.53 | EvanCarroll | YouCeyE: then you don't have OSS emulation running. |
| 03:26.07 | DeFuEgO | then try modprobe snd and see what you get |
| 03:26.08 | YouCeyE | i have it in the .config file.. i am building a module |
| 03:26.10 | YouCeyE | snd_pcm_oss 47524 0 |
| 03:26.11 | YouCeyE | snd_mixer_oss 17024 1 snd_pcm_oss |
| 03:26.16 | YouCeyE | even this is running |
| 03:26.20 | YouCeyE | in lsmod |
| 03:27.33 | EvanCarroll | try to rmmod snd_pcm_oss, and remodprobe it, and check to see if dmesg bitches |
| 03:27.47 | shimano55 | anyone know? |
| 03:27.47 | shimano55 | like the packages you need to install cups? |
| 03:27.50 | edgar | EvanCarroll: Too late system won't let me ssh in anymore.. :( |
| 03:27.50 | YouCeyE | k |
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| 03:28.26 | Varanger | hello! |
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| 03:28.38 | doub | shimano55: cupsys sounds like what you want. for options, 'apt-cache search cupsys' |
| 03:28.42 | YouCeyE | EvanCarroll, unable to register OSS PCM device 0:0 |
| 03:28.49 | Varanger | I have changed /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:28.52 | EvanCarroll | edgar: well if you can find a way to reboot a computer you can't even access, short of turning off the power, you will get mega points in my book |
| 03:29.00 | farhan | lol |
| 03:29.01 | Varanger | so I can use static adresses instead of dhcp |
| 03:29.15 | Varanger | how can I changed my network configs without restarting? |
| 03:29.20 | EvanCarroll | YouCeyE: thats your problem =/ make sure the hw address is 0:0 that looks dummy to me |
| 03:29.36 | farhan | uh i have this weird issue, i'm using a 2.4 kernel with speakup built in, and well i have no sound, everything else works except sound. |
| 03:29.41 | doub | Varanger: ifdown -a && ifup -a |
| 03:29.54 | YouCeyE | EvanCarroll, how do i check the mapping? |
| 03:30.04 | EvanCarroll | Varanger: all you have to do is edit your /etc/network/interfaces, and make sure you have eth0 static, on the top of the stanza |
| 03:30.13 | EvanCarroll | YouCeyE: lspci -vv | grep -o multimedia |
| 03:30.15 | EvanCarroll | err grep -i |
| 03:30.27 | farhan | check this out this is what i get with alsamixer |
| 03:30.34 | farhan | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 03:30.40 | EvanCarroll | buu: your music sucks, fyi. chaoticum, wtf were you thinking |
| 03:30.41 | Varanger | EvanCarroll: I have already changed the file, but I want to change network adresses without rebooting |
| 03:30.57 | Varanger | I thing that with ifdown and ifup |
| 03:31.01 | Varanger | it's enough |
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| 03:31.05 | edgar | EvanCarroll: haha... Well I was logged in made the mistake of logging out so I could ssh from another spot but now it won't let me in from anywhere.. Time to go to the site.. :) |
| 03:31.09 | EvanCarroll | farhan: try sending it -c1 or -d1 i forget what it is, or make sure you don't have the bull shit dummy sound device |
| 03:31.19 | YouCeyE | 0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce MultiMedia audio [Via VT82C686B] (rev a2) 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1) 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) 0000:01:09.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11 |
| 03:31.36 | farhan | hmmm |
| 03:31.44 | farhan | well thats the ging, with 2.6 it works |
| 03:31.44 | shimano55 | doub, Last time the dpkg told me there was 4 packages that I needed to install cups right...but I can't remember the command I gave it to tell me that info.... |
| 03:32.05 | doub | shimano55: try 'apt-get -f install' |
| 03:32.17 | farhan | i want to compile a kernel thats 2.6 but i'm not sure how especially with speakup built in |
| 03:32.27 | IDC | I selecte add sound to kernel ,then ALSA as module ,there under ALSA,do i have to select 'OSS API' stuff like that |
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| 03:32.41 | obtix | ok two questions.. where in kernel 2.6.7 is the modules snd_pcm_oss AND where is af_packet? |
| 03:32.56 | IDC | OSS MIxer, OSS Pcm ..etc there |
| 03:32.58 | EvanCarroll | YouCeyE: hardware address, for you audio controller, 0:0:6 there is an alsa file that should list them all though i just forget where it is located i haven't mucked with it in along time, when you run alsamixer does the device name sound right/ |
| 03:33.06 | IDC | i dont get it why they are under ALSA sub-menu |
| 03:33.11 | farhan | no |
| 03:33.16 | farhan | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 03:33.27 | farhan | kernel 2.4 is not detecting it |
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| 03:33.37 | EvanCarroll | obtix: device drivers/sound i believe |
| 03:33.43 | Vivaldi | does debian-sarge still use devfs? |
| 03:33.50 | Vivaldi | as the installer? |
| 03:33.54 | EvanCarroll | obtix: never heard of af_packet, grep for it |
| 03:33.55 | farhan | i wish i could use a 2.6 but i'm not sure.... |
| 03:33.56 | YouCeyE | EvanCarroll, yes.. alsamixer shows the device fine |
| 03:34.06 | EvanCarroll | Vivaldi: yes it uses devfs |
| 03:34.25 | Vivaldi | EvanCarroll, i meant sarge with linux 2.6.. |
| 03:34.27 | farhan | i have the kernel 2.6 sourcecode |
| 03:34.35 | farhan | i just need som help |
| 03:34.42 | IDC | hi farhan you are using ALSA ? |
| 03:34.46 | farhan | yes/ |
| 03:35.03 | farhan | i had to install with 2.4 thats what speakup would run on |
| 03:35.16 | IDC | farhan, do you know,do i have to enable such things like 'OSS Mixer,OSS API' support under ALSA sub-menu in kernel config ? |
| 03:35.18 | farhan | see blind and when your blind you don't have that many options |
| 03:35.19 | EvanCarroll | YouCeyE: so alsamixer shows the device, thats usually good enough, make sure pcm and master are unmuted and turned up, try 'dd count=5 bs=1MB if=/dev/urandom | aplay' and you should hear static |
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| 03:35.29 | Vivaldi | is there a chance to see a working and updated debian-sarge in this life? |
| 03:35.34 | rectum | farhan: thats my cousin's name |
| 03:35.35 | rectum | ;) |
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| 03:35.40 | FlimFlamMan | does winbind on a samba 3.0.14 domain member server work against a samba 2.2.7 pdc ? |
| 03:35.48 | obtix | guys I HAVE SOUND, I DONT KNOW HOW OR WHY I STILL HAVE ERRORS.. i installed aumix and p00f! |
| 03:35.56 | rectum | farhan and rahman |
| 03:35.57 | YouCeyE | EvanCarroll, yes i do.. |
| 03:35.57 | rectum | heh |
| 03:36.06 | farhan | lol |
| 03:36.08 | YouCeyE | most of the programs run fine with alsa support |
| 03:36.11 | IDC | obtix, lol dont worry,i have sound but trying to get it work :D |
| 03:36.16 | EvanCarroll | YouCeyE: Than your sound works =/ |
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| 03:36.20 | YouCeyE | like xmms mplayer |
| 03:36.35 | YouCeyE | but some programs complain bcos i dont have /dev/mixer |
| 03:36.40 | farhan | if i had a 2.6...rarg |
| 03:36.43 | YouCeyE | which is strange |
| 03:36.54 | DeFuEgO | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.11 | shimano55 | Question, ok..lemme get this straight about apt...if I type in "apt-get install cupsys" and it is dependant on 5 packages, apt will automatically install all of those packages for me? |
| 03:37.19 | farhan | yes |
| 03:37.28 | oigres | Is there something better than "whereami" to help finding networks quickly? |
| 03:37.35 | shimano55 | apt is the best... |
| 03:37.42 | EvanCarroll | YouCeyE: set all of them to use alsa rather than oss that should be the best workaround alsa is better |
| 03:37.56 | farhan | theres emerge but,. thats on gentoo and that builds from source and thats scarry |
| 03:38.05 | YouCeyE | EvanCarroll, those programs do not have any options for setting up alsa |
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| 03:38.14 | YouCeyE | like skype.. realplayer |
| 03:38.35 | farhan | so can somone help me compile a new kernel.?lol |
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| 03:38.53 | steve_ | farhan |
| 03:38.57 | steve_ | i can help you |
| 03:38.58 | farhan | yes/ |
| 03:39.01 | farhan | ok |
| 03:39.06 | steve_ | farhan. you must trust in me |
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| 03:39.09 | farhan | lol |
| 03:39.11 | steve_ | http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/ |
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| 03:39.13 | EvanCarroll | YouCeyE: don't know what to tell you, if you are using alsa emulation of oss snd-* modules rather than true oss, than they should work, if not your probablem is above me |
| 03:39.14 | farhan | ok |
| 03:39.23 | IDC | farhan, can you help me ? |
| 03:39.31 | farhan | yes/ |
| 03:39.34 | tweak | hi, how do I search though tons of text files for the word silly. I think I need to use grep? |
| 03:39.48 | YouCeyE | thanks for the help EvanCarroll |
| 03:39.52 | mngrif | is there a way to modify the hardware EQ on the emu10k1 in ye olde linux? |
| 03:39.57 | EvanCarroll | tweak: grep -R 'silly' ./* |
| 03:40.00 | IDC | farhan, in kernel config,if i plan to use alsamixer,do i have to checkmark 'OSS api,oss mixer' right Under ALSA in kernel config ? |
| 03:40.19 | farhan | i've never kernel configged in my life |
| 03:40.20 | Varanger | is there a way I can configure two network setting for eth0 ? |
| 03:40.22 | EvanCarroll | IDC: Yes |
| 03:40.42 | Varanger | and have one configured at boot and the second one when I use ifdown and ifup |
| 03:40.42 | Varanger | ? |
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| 03:41.04 | EvanCarroll | Varanger: Yes conifugre one for auto on eth0, the other one above it without auto |
| 03:41.10 | EvanCarroll | Varanger: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:41.24 | Varanger | ok... alread done that |
| 03:41.28 | IDC | EvanCarroll, why ? |
| 03:41.46 | Varanger | EvanCarroll: one is a static address, the other is an static one |
| 03:41.56 | IDC | EvanCarroll, sound -> oss,ALSA, strange is, OSS MIXER ,OSS API are right under ALSA |
| 03:41.59 | EvanCarroll | IDC: because as Varanger has already said not all programs can use alsa, see mp3blaster for an example |
| 03:42.02 | Varanger | EvanCarroll: one is a dhcp address, the other is an static one |
| 03:42.03 | IDC | i dont know why put them there |
| 03:42.09 | Varanger | I wan the dhcp for default |
| 03:42.22 | IDC | EvanCarroll, oh |
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| 03:42.29 | EvanCarroll | IDC: Those are oss EMULATION modules, legacy for backwards compatability they plugin to alsa and give you oss functionality |
| 03:42.32 | Varanger | then I want the static one (after I run ifdown and ifup) |
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| 03:43.02 | IDC | EvanCarroll, if i select them will it be conflict with using alsamixer ? |
| 03:43.39 | IDC | i will have to use lasamixer i think ,cuz my soundcard is more than 2 channels,gotta tell alsa to switch channels as much as i want |
| 03:43.45 | IDC | alsamixer* |
| 03:43.47 | EvanCarroll | Varanger: so you have one entry on top, that lists the dhcp, then the one below that lists static with the arg 'auto' |
| 03:44.46 | EvanCarroll | IDC: No it won't conflict its not a seperate sound system, it is simply a few legacy modules |
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| 03:46.25 | Varanger | EvanCarroll: both lines starts with eth0 |
| 03:46.34 | nowen | How do I make the "open with" selection, permanent? |
| 03:46.57 | EvanCarroll | Varanger: just send me the whole damn thing in a private message. |
| 03:47.15 | EvanCarroll | nowen: that depends on your window manager |
| 03:47.17 | bucky | Varanger, auto eth0=home-dhcp |
| 03:47.18 | nowen | gnome |
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| 03:47.27 | bucky | Varanger, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-reconf |
| 03:47.28 | nowen | Im using gnome |
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| 03:51.21 | nichos | Hi all, have kinda silly question. Is there a way to "Free" memory? I know if i restart X, and open everything i have open right now, i'll have more memory free. Are things not cleaning up? |
| 03:51.34 | dondelelcaro | !free memory |
| 03:51.35 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux caches files from disk in RAM for performance gains, and will release the RAM if programs need it. |
| 03:51.38 | dondelelcaro | nichos: ^^^ |
| 03:52.13 | nichos | dondelelcaro thanks, good to know:) |
| 03:52.33 | Supaplex | cewt'nly |
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| 03:53.04 | nichos | just annoyes me, might have to remove the applet from gkrellm |
| 03:54.00 | kingsley | How does one get a list of daemons and the port numbers they're listening to? |
| 03:54.15 | bisy | nmap |
| 03:54.16 | stew | kingsley: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 03:54.30 | flowtech | netstat -l |
| 03:55.01 | kingsley | Thank you. |
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| 03:56.36 | dondelelcaro | nichos: you supposedly can adjust the krell to show the three different levels... |
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| 03:57.40 | nichos | well, as long as its doing what it's suppose to, thats fine |
| 03:57.51 | nichos | i had running flux box, and seeing 89M free on a machine w/a gig:) |
| 03:58.29 | nichos | thanks for the help dondelelcaro |
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| 03:58.52 | darkgamer20 | hey |
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| 03:59.26 | Drako60 | how can i reconfigure apt to get from ftp rather then cdrom? |
| 03:59.32 | charles | is this really free? |
| 03:59.47 | darkgamer20 | Drako60: go root and then base-config |
| 03:59.48 | gravity | Drako60: apt-setup |
| 03:59.53 | darkgamer20 | or that |
| 04:00.00 | Drako60 | thank you |
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| 04:00.17 | mysurfguid1 | Hey guys i got a problem with my apache2 , its been working fine till now it started giving me SIG terms because it says that make_socket could not bind to :*443 because address already in use, and i dont have a firewall that has been a problem before, i havent even set up iptables yet and nothing has changed.. more then apache and the binding port and Apache room is literally dead nobody will answer. |
| 04:00.27 | IDC | I am on ext2 ,should i enable ext3 or/and Reiserfs support in kernel config ? |
| 04:00.29 | darkgamer20 | so i decided to go back to debian and use it for my server |
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| 04:01.13 | darkgamer20 | and i can't find a dns bind guide to do that |
| 04:01.19 | darkgamer20 | can someone help me? |
| 04:01.41 | jetdotnet | hey these new motherboards: if they don't say they support ata33, but list ata 66/100/133, an ata33 ide drive just doesn't work? |
| 04:01.44 | darkgamer20 | mysurfguid1: you checked the apache docs? |
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| 04:02.00 | jetdotnet | minghua: homie |
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| 04:02.21 | mysurfguid1 | yep dark and it tells me either firewall, routing or other processes can cause it using the same ports and ive checked outdated services of apache running ps -aux and there is none |
| 04:02.30 | mysurfguid1 | so its not looping itself because of another process |
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| 04:02.39 | minghua | jetdotnet: ? |
| 04:02.42 | bucky | mysurfguid1, my guess is you have :443 twice somewhere either in apache2.conf or in a virtual host in /etc/default/useradd |
| 04:02.55 | jetdotnet | <--houston |
| 04:03.05 | mysurfguid1 | but i havent changed anything bucky, its been running fine, thats what gets me |
| 04:03.06 | darkgamer20 | i think bucky knows more than i do |
| 04:03.12 | bucky | sorry sites-enabled/000-default |
| 04:03.25 | shimano55 | Question, I downloaded the FM Radio input plugin for xmms...does anyone here know how to use it? |
| 04:03.40 | minghua | jetdotnet: Ah, hi. I am a student, not a Houtonian though |
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| 04:04.26 | bucky | mysurfguid1, try apache2ctl configtest |
| 04:04.56 | mysurfguid1 | i did and it gives me the error that it cant bind and make_socket because :443* already running |
| 04:05.07 | mysurfguid1 | lol it beats me, i havent changed a thing |
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| 04:06.48 | mysurfguid1 | how would i go to grep all processes using port 443 in the box, which command? |
| 04:06.49 | diego | my computer can't (through and after several reboots) access a particular server over the internet, over all protocols. other computers on my network can, and they have the same path on a traceroute as the computer that can't...any ideas? |
| 04:06.49 | EvanCarroll | <- houston, too |
| 04:06.49 | kingsley | Is my understanding correct that if neither "netstat -plunt" or "lsof -i -n" show port 7101 in use and "netstat -l" only shows a file named "/tmp/.font-unix/fs7101", then no daemon is listening to port 7101? |
| 04:06.53 | EvanCarroll | jetdotnet: You should join HLUG |
| 04:06.55 | diego | <- the woodlands :) |
| 04:07.08 | EvanCarroll | diego: You should join too then =D |
| 04:07.20 | sabin | <- canada, eh |
| 04:07.26 | EvanCarroll | I'm in kingwood/atascocita area (1960 intersects 59) |
| 04:07.26 | mysurfguid1 | anybody knows how to grep all services using a specific port? |
| 04:07.31 | diego | EvanCarroll: is there a home page? |
| 04:07.40 | buu | sabin: You shouldn't ! |
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| 04:07.54 | darkgamer20 | can someone help me find a dns bind guide for debian google isn't really helping me? |
| 04:07.56 | sabin | buu, shouldn't what? |
| 04:08.08 | mysurfguid1 | hey dark, check out www.aboutdebian.org |
| 04:08.09 | jetdotnet | darkgamer20: tldp.org no help? |
| 04:08.11 | mysurfguid1 | hes got a good one |
| 04:08.14 | sabin | darkgamer20, man bind? |
| 04:08.31 | darkgamer20 | jetdotnet: didn't check |
| 04:08.32 | mysurfguid1 | sorry www.aboutdebian.com |
| 04:08.34 | EvanCarroll | diego: Yes but it is, eh, lacking, we meet every wednesday at around 5pm-6, at HAL-PC, we leave appx 9pm, and go for dinner at Bibas dinner |
| 04:08.40 | darkgamer20 | sabin: compilcated |
| 04:08.58 | jetdotnet | EvanCarroll: that sounds appealing... |
| 04:09.21 | diego | EvanCarroll: where is hal-pc? i seem to recall that was in an /etc/resolv.conf sometime haha |
| 04:09.24 | sabin | darkgamer20, i shoulda figured |
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| 04:09.43 | jetdotnet | hal pc is in the galleria area... i forget the address... |
| 04:09.53 | diego | mm...kinda far |
| 04:09.59 | darkgamer20 | sabin: sorry a bit new |
| 04:10.20 | madclicker | when i configure apache2 vhost with root document /var/www/html/horde in error log it keeps appending /var/www/html/horde/horde, why is that? |
| 04:10.26 | diego | how old is the youngest member of HLUG? |
| 04:10.29 | EvanCarroll | jetdotnet: diego: HAL-PC is about 2min from the Post Oak/610 intersection, you can find details by googleing hal-pc |
| 04:10.32 | mysurfguid1 | ls | grep 443* ? |
| 04:10.36 | sabin | darkgamer20, that's fine, it's always good to see new people, unfortunately i cannot be of any REAL help with bind |
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| 04:10.53 | darkgamer20 | sabin: what i acutally need to know is how to make zones in named.conf |
| 04:10.55 | mysurfguid1 | darkgamer check out www.aboutdebian.com |
| 04:11.12 | jetdotnet | over in briar hollow area i seem to remember |
| 04:11.13 | EvanCarroll | jetdotnet: diego: there are alot of debian/mepis fans there, i like it anyway, i'll be there this wednesday |
| 04:11.24 | darkgamer20 | mysurfguid1: they use the age old woody |
| 04:11.28 | buu | Giant jews from outerspace! |
| 04:11.30 | darkgamer20 | mysurfguid1: i am using sarge |
| 04:11.51 | EvanCarroll | buu: get a hair cut. |
| 04:12.00 | buu | EvanCarroll: Shave your back |
| 04:12.10 | rectum | amsg: http://never.belike.net/gallery <== some of my cigars, my humidor, some screenshots, and misc. junk |
| 04:12.30 | EvanCarroll | buu: ... msn chess? |
| 04:12.41 | buu | EvanCarroll: =[ |
| 04:12.43 | diego | EvanCarroll: i use ubuntu on the desktop, debian for servers, myself. do any young people go? i'm only 16 |
| 04:12.46 | sabin | darkgamer20, in debian it's often a safe bet to try man <configfile> i've always loved that about debian |
| 04:13.24 | rectum | diego: im 12 |
| 04:13.24 | darkgamer20 | sabin: what is that? |
| 04:13.24 | EvanCarroll | diego: I'm 19.. |
| 04:13.24 | rectum | ;) |
| 04:13.24 | whaq | hi ho |
| 04:13.24 | darkgamer20 | i am 13 |
| 04:13.24 | whaq | any palm users? |
| 04:13.24 | diego | roofle |
| 04:13.24 | rectum | I haven't been born yet |
| 04:13.24 | diego | i might as well have said a/s/l |
| 04:13.31 | sabin | darkgamer20, like try to see the manpage for named.conf, by doing "man named.conf" in a terminal |
| 04:13.33 | rectum | im soooo cool |
| 04:13.37 | rectum | i use debian from within the womb |
| 04:13.38 | rectum | ! |
| 04:14.05 | darkgamer20 | sabin: i need a an explaining guide |
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| 04:14.15 | EvanCarroll | ... this is where someone even less mature should follow that up with the womb runs debian, you reside in the matrix. |
| 04:14.15 | diego | EvanCarroll: well very good to know...i can't say i'll go any-time soon as i have AP tests this week, brother's wedding coming up, and then finals...but i'll try to attend sometime |
| 04:14.18 | darkgamer20 | sabin: and how to put commands together |
| 04:14.28 | alexscott | !file qsearch.el |
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| 04:14.41 | alexscott | !dpkg qsearch.el |
| 04:14.45 | alexscott | :\ |
| 04:14.51 | alexscott | (lut) |
| 04:14.53 | obtix | ok, im back with another problem :-P no mouse support i installed usb mouse support in the kernel; however, gpm isnt working :-P |
| 04:14.57 | alexscott | !file /bin/sh |
| 04:15.06 | mysurfguid1 | darkgamer i am using sarge too |
| 04:15.22 | darkgamer20 | mysurfguid1: umm great |
| 04:15.24 | diego | so uh...anyone wanna help with the issue i posted a long long time ago regarding my computer not being able to access a particular internet host? |
| 04:15.34 | jetdotnet | !tell obtix about gpm |
| 04:15.44 | EvanCarroll | diego: pm me. |
| 04:15.54 | mysurfguid1 | works fine for me |
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| 04:16.04 | kadu | howdy |
| 04:16.22 | obtix | jetdotnet: its not a gpm problem... i just cant find the mouse i cat everything i thought it would be and moved the mouse around to try and get giberish and i still got nothing |
| 04:16.25 | kadu | anyone can help me out on how to sence a ps2 usb adapter the system? |
| 04:16.31 | jetdotnet | ah |
| 04:16.36 | cire | Our internet connection got very slow from one moment to another. I tested it's speed directly on the router, so there's no routing problem. there are no errors in the logs. Also, I disabled the routing services and changed the routers intranet-ip, so that no traffic from there will slow it down. There's only one working solution: disabling the dsl-modem (I don't know what it is called in english. The device which is directly connected to the |
| 04:16.36 | cire | NIC) from power, and wait a few seconds. then reenabling it agein will cause normal dsl-speed for a few hours. After that, it again becomes slow. We also tried another dsl-modem to test whether the first one was damaged -> same problems. We also changed the NIC. Sorry for this long uestion. |
| 04:18.19 | jetdotnet | i told fry's to give me a socket 462 proc, here i sit with a socket754 proc |
| 04:18.34 | cire | Does nobody have an idea? I tried for hours now to find a solution... |
| 04:19.40 | cire | I forgot to mention, that netstat shows no active connections -> there's no traffic. (?) |
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| 04:20.43 | chuk | GEEKS! |
| 04:20.46 | chuk | lawl |
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| 04:20.48 | chuk | jk |
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| 04:22.22 | barretj | cire: i had this problem once on my dsl connection |
| 04:22.35 | rob_lt | Hi. How do I tell apt that "deb http://soulmachine.net/debian unstable/" is actually an unstable repo, for the purpose of pinning? |
| 04:22.58 | cire | what was your solution? |
| 04:22.58 | gravity | rob_lt: man apt_preferences |
| 04:22.59 | barretj | cire: i called the dsl company and they fixed some problem in the line going to my house |
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| 04:23.35 | gravity | rob_lt: I'm not totally sure how to do it, but I think if it's possible that manpage will tell you how |
| 04:23.43 | rob_lt | gravity, I have a preferences file, I think the problem is that the way that line is formed, it is just an "unstable" directory, but apt doesn't recognize it as an unstable repo. |
| 04:23.57 | cire | barretj: I also called them. They told me there was no problem. And reconnecting the dsl-modem from power solves the problem for a few hours... |
| 04:24.24 | caphuso | less keypresses than C-a C-k C-k |
| 04:24.58 | gravity | rob_lt: As far as I know, apt doesn't think in terms of repos but in packages. |
| 04:24.59 | barretj | well, for me disconnecting the modem for a few seconds solved the problem, but it kept coming back, and the dsl company was able to fix it |
| 04:25.15 | IDC | should i select 'cp437' or 'ISO 8859-1' as default locale language support in kernel config ? |
| 04:25.27 | barretj | rob_lt: the line needs to look something like this: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main |
| 04:25.34 | cire | okay. I hope calling them again will also help us! |
| 04:25.37 | barretj | rob_lt: just change the url |
| 04:25.37 | gravity | hrm... |
| 04:25.47 | rob_lt | barretj, I'll give that a try |
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| 04:25.53 | rob_lt | gravity, thanks for your help too. |
| 04:25.53 | kingsley | It seems that my true type font server isn't listening to port 7101. Will someone here please try the following test and tell me if your xfstt has port 7101? ( netstat -l ; netstat -plunt ; lsof -i -n ) | grep 7101 |
| 04:25.54 | barretj | IDC: i use ISO 8859-1 |
| 04:26.12 | IDC | barretj, do you speak native english ? |
| 04:26.27 | barretj | IDC: yes |
| 04:26.56 | IDC | barretj, i see,thanks..so there the exact input is 'ISO 8859-1' without quotes ? |
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| 04:27.19 | barretj | IDC: i dont remember the exact string to input, sorry |
| 04:27.48 | barretj | IDC: are you using menuconfig? |
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| 04:28.11 | IDC | barretj, cuz i selected cp437 <US_canada region> before,after recompiled kernel , many fonts were messed up |
| 04:28.33 | barretj | IDC: cp437 is mainly a windows code page |
| 04:28.34 | IDC | barretj, for example the 'ok' or/and 'cancel' in english were not readable |
| 04:28.49 | IDC | barretj, yes,menuconfig |
| 04:28.59 | IDC | i am using menuconfig on X |
| 04:29.12 | barretj | IDC: where in the menu is the option you are working with? |
| 04:29.19 | john | my xine is working weird.. and i just rebooted.. and it's still all choppy with the videos |
| 04:29.23 | barretj | IDC: cause i cant find it :) |
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| 04:30.07 | IDC | barretj, from File System -> Native Language support |
| 04:30.18 | IDC | barretj, kernel 2.6.11.8 |
| 04:31.00 | barretj | IDC: hmm i have cp437 as my 'Default NLS Option' |
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| 04:31.06 | barretj | IDC: i think i know what your problem is |
| 04:31.38 | barretj | IDC: type 'locale' at the command line, and tell me what it says |
| 04:32.07 | IDC | all are set to 'zh_CN.GBK' |
| 04:32.14 | barretj | thats the problem |
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| 04:32.22 | IDC | oh |
| 04:32.23 | barretj | change that to en.US |
| 04:32.26 | barretj | err |
| 04:32.29 | barretj | en_US |
| 04:32.31 | IDC | no |
| 04:32.45 | IDC | barretj, i made it to suit my locales |
| 04:32.47 | barretj | or, if that doesnt work, try changing it to POSIX instead |
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| 04:33.13 | IDC | hmm |
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| 04:33.59 | barretj | export LC_ALL="POSIX" |
| 04:34.21 | barretj | put that line in your ~/.bash_profile |
| 04:34.27 | rob_lt | Sorry, one more quick questions... is there a way to have apt show what version of each package it is planning on installing? |
| 04:35.06 | IDC | barretj, no,sorry,english is not my native language,i meant to configure my locale like that |
| 04:35.22 | barretj | i think POSIX will work with all languages |
| 04:35.41 | IDC | barretj, so if i keep my current locale settings,in kernel,which one i should select as the Default language support ? |
| 04:35.44 | barretj | POSIX = Portable Operating System Interface |
| 04:35.59 | caphuso | IDC: you don't have locale settings in the kernel |
| 04:36.07 | IDC | barretj, no,i cannot be with POXIS in my local,or, my input server will not work |
| 04:36.38 | barretj | pick the one that matches your locale |
| 04:36.44 | IDC | huh ? |
| 04:37.19 | karsten | IDC: s/POXIS/POSIX/ , though I like the sound of that. |
| 04:37.27 | barretj | what country is 'zh_CN.GBK' ? |
| 04:37.53 | caphuso | something chinese |
| 04:37.57 | rob_lt | -V :) |
| 04:38.03 | IDC | hmm |
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| 04:38.14 | karsten | barretj: China. |
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| 04:38.27 | kingsley | Will someone here please try the following test and tell me if your xfstt has port 7101? ( netstat -l ; netstat -plunt ; lsof -i -n ) | grep 7101 |
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| 04:38.51 | karsten | IDC: In English, put a space ' ' after commas ','. |
| 04:39.05 | christine | guys, need help, im using sarge, suddenly i cant mount my usb it says no valid blk device but from the log i get 'usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using address 3' |
| 04:39.10 | barretj | looks like maybe this will work -> 'Simplified Chinese charset (CP936, GB2312)' |
| 04:39.12 | jmilton | Hi, i'm having a bit of trouble using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, it doesn't seem to be writing a config file anywhere? |
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| 04:39.34 | caphuso | christine: paste a bit more of the output in #flood |
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| 04:39.40 | karsten | kingsley: 7100 is standard. /etc/services |
| 04:39.50 | barretj | jmilton, look at the comments at the top of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 04:40.03 | jmilton | i don't have an XF85Config-4 |
| 04:40.12 | jmilton | 6* |
| 04:40.14 | IDC | karsten, huh? |
| 04:40.15 | karsten | !xcfg |
| 04:40.16 | dpkg | well, xcfg is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 04:40.25 | barretj | what about /etc/X11/XF86Config ? |
| 04:40.27 | karsten | jmilton: ^^ |
| 04:40.35 | jmilton | i don't have that either |
| 04:40.39 | karsten | jmilton: What version of X? |
| 04:40.50 | jmilton | whatever is latest in unstable |
| 04:40.53 | karsten | jmilton: Run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
| 04:40.55 | kingsley | karsten: man page says 7100 is xfs's default port and 7101 is xfstt's. |
| 04:41.02 | karsten | jmilton: dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:41.04 | christine | caphuso: i posted it there, tnx :) |
| 04:41.05 | jmilton | karsten, i am, and it doesn't creat a config |
| 04:41.07 | caphuso | christine: it doesn't say anything about sda in the log file? |
| 04:41.10 | barretj | jmilton: thats odd, it should install one for you with the xserver-xfree86 package |
| 04:41.10 | karsten | kingsley: OK. |
| 04:41.39 | jmilton | 4.3.0 |
| 04:41.43 | barretj | jmilton, you could try apt-get --purge remove xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:41.43 | karsten | jmilton: privmsg coming |
| 04:41.56 | karsten | jmilton: Check msg. |
| 04:41.59 | Erpo | Hi all. When I plug in my usb flash drive, an icon fails to show up on my desktop. The dmesg output is at http://channels.debian.net/paste/80 - any suggestions? |
| 04:42.20 | karsten | barretj: It's probably /var/lib/xfree86/ md5sum. |
| 04:42.28 | christine | caphuso: when i connect/reconnect my usb thats all it says?? |
| 04:42.51 | caphuso | christine: did you upgrade your kernel lately? |
| 04:42.51 | christine | caphuso: sorry, but im alittle puzzled i usually been able to mount my usb b4 |
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| 04:43.23 | christine | caphuso: no its still 2.6.8-2-686 (sarge) |
| 04:43.41 | caphuso | christine: changed anything else, maybe hotplug? |
| 04:43.43 | christine | caphuso: but i frequently update it via testing |
| 04:43.43 | karsten | jmilton: Please discuss on channel, msg was just to avoid flood. |
| 04:43.51 | jmilton | ok |
| 04:44.00 | jmilton | i'm trying barretj's suggestion |
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| 04:44.24 | karsten | caphuso: Would 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' help any? |
| 04:44.34 | shimano55 | Question, Can I manually add Launchers to my Applications menu? |
| 04:44.37 | christine | caphuso: not quite sure, but i dont usually compile manually, all appz are from the official repos |
| 04:44.46 | caphuso | karsten: on a 2.6 kernel? no |
| 04:45.14 | christine | caphuso: its says attached devices: (nothing there) |
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| 04:45.18 | karsten | caphuso: OK. |
| 04:45.20 | christine | caphuso: i even try mknod something |
| 04:45.38 | karsten | shimano55: Yes. |
| 04:45.48 | karsten | shimano55: GNOME? |
| 04:46.01 | shimano55 | karsten, Yeah...but I don't seem to be able to drag and drop.. |
| 04:46.06 | obtix | what kernel package contains af_packet and where is it? |
| 04:46.19 | karsten | shimano55: I think you can do it. I don't run GNOME panel. |
| 04:46.21 | caphuso | christine: do a "/msg dpkg usb-storage", follow the steps in there and tell me if it makes a difference |
| 04:46.34 | christine | caphuso: ok tnx ill try |
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| 04:50.27 | christine | caphuso: am i getting ur instructions right?, i tried insmod usb-storage but it says no such file |
| 04:50.50 | caphuso | christine: modprobe usb-storage |
| 04:51.12 | christine | caphuso: hehehe |
| 04:51.54 | IDC | in kernel local language support,if i select utf8,will that support displaying english and most of non-english character ? |
| 04:52.05 | caphuso | IDC: huh? |
| 04:52.10 | caphuso | "kernel language support"? |
| 04:52.28 | IDC | in kernel confile ->file system->local language support |
| 04:52.39 | caphuso | IDC: that has nothing to do with your problem |
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| 04:52.51 | caphuso | i've told you before, there are no locale settings in the kernel |
| 04:53.14 | IDC | because i have files stored in my NTFS partitions,by then i need to read them from Linux |
| 04:53.30 | obtix | what kernel package contains af_packet and where is it? |
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| 04:53.54 | caphuso | IDC: it has nothing to do with displaying. it deals only with reading filenames from the filesystem |
| 04:54.00 | IDC | caphuso, i understood that now,so i want to add multi-language support in kernel for reading from windows partition no problem |
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| 04:55.28 | christine | caphuso: still d same, when i proc partns no sda there, when i mount /dev/sda1 it says special device does not exists?? |
| 04:56.20 | MobyTurbo | !confuse IDC |
| 04:56.21 | dpkg | Yes, those was their weasel today, IDC? pants of the democracy of liechtenstein with extra cheese |
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| 04:56.40 | IDC | ok |
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| 04:57.31 | caphuso | christine: plug out the USB thingie, run "dmesg -c", plug back in, rerun "dmesg" and paste the whole output in #flood |
| 04:58.07 | cafuego | hmm |
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| 04:58.17 | jmilton | Thanks karsten and barretj, its working now. onto another problem, what sort of fonts should i be using? I'm running on an LCD, and the fonts get a bit blurry since they seem to end up getting stretched to the next pixel sometimes (but not always). i'm running at the lcds native res, so i think its the fonts? not sure |
| 04:58.54 | mono | how do i resolve this error? mke2fs -j /dev/hda3 mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) /dev/hda3: Invalid argument passed to ext2 library while setting up superblock |
| 04:59.00 | karsten | jmilton: Sounds like you're not running at native resolution. What is that for your screen? |
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| 04:59.20 | jmilton | 1280x1024, and the monitor says thats what it's running at. |
| 04:59.33 | karsten | jmilton: Also, in 'dpkg-reconfigure ...' you're asked if your display is LCD. There's some font smoothing that's wicked good if you choose it. |
| 04:59.36 | karsten | jmilton: OK. |
| 04:59.42 | jmilton | yes, i chose LCD in the reconfigure |
| 05:00.09 | cheez | Hello everyone, I just got a quick MYSQL question. Im trying to overwrite a database with a NEW database file but its giving me errors telling me the entries already exist, even with the --force option. Does anyone know how I can overwrite/restore my database? |
| 05:00.46 | EvanCarroll | remove the old one |
| 05:00.52 | EvanCarroll | drop database name |
| 05:00.56 | caphuso | christine: not the output of "dmesg -c" |
| 05:01.00 | cheez | evan: I cant find that option with 'man mysql' |
| 05:01.03 | cheez | evan: how? |
| 05:01.15 | caphuso | damn, i should have added the "> /dev/null" like i intended to |
| 05:01.24 | karsten | cheez: mysqladmin drop <dtabasename> |
| 05:01.33 | karsten | cheez: Alternatively, rename. |
| 05:01.51 | cheez | karsten: well, I want the database still there, I just dont want the info there |
| 05:01.55 | karsten | cheez: ...and 'man mysql' won't give you SQL / admin commands. |
| 05:02.15 | karsten | cheez: /query chanserv list *mysql* for a mysql channel ;-) |
| 05:02.19 | jmilton | karsten: i'm thinking its just an xfree thing? i tried ubuntu on a different computer with the same monitor and it runs x.org, and it didn't have the same problem |
| 05:02.34 | obtix | what kernel package contains af_packet and where is it? |
| 05:02.51 | karsten | cheez: ...alternatively you can do a 'delete * from <table> where 1=1;' for all tables. |
| 05:02.57 | karsten | !tell obtix about search |
| 05:03.00 | karsten | !tell obtix about repeat |
| 05:03.08 | karsten | jmilton: Shouldna be. |
| 05:03.14 | karsten | jmilton: Looking this up, moment. |
| 05:03.52 | obtix | karsten: its somewhere in the kernel... is it possible to search inside the kernel? |
| 05:04.28 | karsten | obtix: apt-file |
| 05:04.58 | karsten | jmilton: http://jmason.org/howto/subpixel.html |
| 05:05.50 | jmilton | hmmm no it appears its my fault |
| 05:05.58 | jmilton | it is trying to run at 1280x960 |
| 05:06.02 | karsten | jmilton: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4456 |
| 05:06.12 | jmilton | i don't know why, the only res in my config is 1280x1024 |
| 05:06.55 | karsten | jmilton: Are your _windows_ also fuzzy, or just your fonts? |
| 05:07.00 | jmilton | everything |
| 05:07.08 | jmilton | but its most noticible on fonts |
| 05:07.33 | jmilton | why would it be running at x960 when i only have x1024 specified inf XF86Config-4 |
| 05:07.59 | christine | caphuso: oops, sorry |
| 05:08.01 | christine | caphuso: now its usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using address 7 |
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| 05:09.00 | karsten | jmilton: Um. You're running 1280x1024 or 1280x960? |
| 05:09.32 | caphuso | christine: i've noticed that you're using devfs, did you try if the devfs device name for that disk works? |
| 05:09.33 | jmilton | 1280x960, where as i need to be running 1280x1024 |
| 05:09.37 | karsten | jmilton: ...and FYI, 1280x960 is actually the "correct" aspect ratio, 1280x1024 is distorted . |
| 05:09.41 | jmilton | i know that |
| 05:09.50 | karsten | jmilton: Hrm. Paste /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 05:09.52 | jmilton | but 1280x1024 is my lcd's native res |
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| 05:09.54 | karsten | !tell jmilton about paster |
| 05:09.59 | karsten | jmilton: ...to that URL. |
| 05:10.16 | jmilton | i can't paste, i'm not on the same box |
| 05:10.19 | karsten | jmilton: ...include /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 while you're at it. |
| 05:10.26 | karsten | jmilton: That's your problem. |
| 05:10.29 | Drako60 | guess i should send a bug report in about AMD64 sid dma problem |
| 05:10.31 | karsten | jmilton: Copy the files or do something. |
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| 05:10.41 | jmilton | *sigh* be back in a minute |
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| 05:11.06 | IDC | how do i run a file looks like xxxx.patch ? |
| 05:11.15 | caphuso | IDC: man patch |
| 05:11.20 | IDC | ok |
| 05:11.32 | OmegaNine | Is the openGl that unreal 2k3 uses video card spasific? I tried to run it (After installing my video card drivers) and it says "Could not load OpenGL library" |
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| 05:11.40 | IDC | No manual entry for patch |
| 05:11.42 | christine | caphuso: no, i only tried installing devfsd a while back when i try analysing my usb problem myself, but now im thinking of removing it again. i havent yet put devfsd=mount on the lilo. im not quite sure now? :( |
| 05:11.58 | karsten | IDC: Install it. |
| 05:12.40 | christine | caphuso: can i just remove the devfsd? |
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| 05:12.57 | sparr_ | im surprised no one has written a 'whatismyip' tool for the console. annoying to have to open a web browser to get that info |
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| 05:13.09 | caphuso | !myip |
| 05:13.10 | dpkg | [myip] /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr" | sed -e 's/^.*inet addr://' -e 's/ .*$//', or ifconfig eth0 | awk '/inet addr:/{sub"addr:","";print $2}', or hostname -i, or "ip a s eth0 | grep inet | cut -d' ' -f6", or /sbin/ifconfig eth0|perl -ne 'if /addr:s*(\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+)/ {print qq|$1\n|}' |
| 05:13.13 | jmilton | ok, could you tell me about paster again please? |
| 05:13.34 | caphuso | christine: good question |
| 05:13.43 | sparr_ | caphuso: that doesnt really help behind a router |
| 05:13.59 | karsten | christine: Actually, the question isn't whether or not you can remove it -- but what the consequences are ;-) |
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| 05:14.50 | caphuso | sparr_: then use lynx -dump checkip.dyndns.org |
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| 05:15.29 | karsten | sparr_: What IP are you trying to get? Your router's? |
| 05:16.36 | sparr_ | karsten: the one the internet sees when they look at me |
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| 05:17.14 | karsten | !tell jmilton about msg |
| 05:17.23 | karsten | jmilton: /var/log/XFree86.0.log as well. |
| 05:17.42 | karsten | sparr_: You'll have to query your router for that, or a remote site which sees your router. |
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| 05:18.02 | karsten | sparr_: If you're behind the router on a NATed network, your system has no idea what your IP is. |
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| 05:18.12 | karsten | sparr_: ...though you might get it with traceroute / mtr. |
| 05:18.52 | jmilton | karsten, here is my XF86Config-4 file, http://ii.net/~pproud/XF86Config-4 and here is my XFree86.0.log http://ii.net/~pproud/XFree86.0.log |
| 05:19.13 | karsten | jmilton: Gotit |
| 05:19.29 | OmegaNine | I installed the drivers for my video card on debian, and then when i tried to start up unreal 2k3 it said "Could not load OpenGL library" Shouldnt that be installed with the drivers? (I installed from the nvidia installer) |
| 05:19.49 | caphuso | hah |
| 05:19.51 | jmilton | karsten, (II) NV(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name) <- would seemt o be the problem |
| 05:20.02 | sparr_ | karsten: im well aware of that, which is why i find it odd that there isnt a common tool to do it. i have to open a web browser and point it to checkip.dyndns.org or whatismyip.com |
| 05:20.10 | christine | hmm, im not using the devfsd b4, i just installed it a few minutes ago because of the usb problem im having?? now i dunno if i can just remove that devfsd :( |
| 05:20.17 | caphuso | sparr_: lynx -dump checkip.dyndns.org | sed -n 's/.*: \(.*\)/\1/p' |
| 05:20.26 | caphuso | jeez, don't be so helpless |
| 05:20.45 | OmegaNine | You could prolly grep it from whatismyip.com It gives it to you in ascii |
| 05:21.04 | karsten | sparr_: <shrug> |
| 05:21.16 | buu | sparr_: whatismyip can give you a different ip |
| 05:21.16 | karsten | OmegaNine: Yes, we've only said that like three times no.w |
| 05:21.29 | buu | Oh wait, someone already said that |
| 05:21.44 | OmegaNine | karsten, Sorry, was not quite flawless enough to see that un the half a secon it took me to type it. |
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| 05:21.56 | karsten | OmegaNine: NP ;-) |
| 05:22.00 | karsten | Feh. |
| 05:22.18 | caphuso | christine: if you aren't actually using it, removing should be fine |
| 05:23.04 | karsten | OK, where the frell does XFree86.log hide the actual resolution? |
| 05:23.11 | christine | caphuso: tnx, now how about my usb ;-) |
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| 05:23.57 | caphuso | christine: if you plug in the USB thing, all your kernel reports are those two lines you pasted earlier? |
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| 05:24.07 | karsten | jmilton: Here's your problem: (II) NV(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name) |
| 05:24.15 | karsten | jmilton: You apparently need a modeline for 1280x1024. |
| 05:24.55 | karsten | jmilton: aptitude install modeline; modeline |
| 05:25.09 | karsten | jmilton: ...will calculate that for you. Add to the 'monitor' section. |
| 05:25.09 | christine | caphuso: yes, it just says new full speed usb device using address x (incidentally, the address increments everytime i disconnect/reconnect) |
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| 05:25.34 | jmilton | bash: modeline: command not found |
| 05:25.50 | caphuso | christine: hrm, that's weird... does '/etc/init.d/hotplug status' report anything that's not correct? |
| 05:26.47 | karsten | jmilton: Install it. |
| 05:26.52 | Drako60 | this might sound like a stupid question, but why doesn't the netinstall install gcc even when you have no network support? |
| 05:26.58 | karsten | jmilton: aptitude install modeline |
| 05:27.12 | christine | caphuso: if i restart hotplug, on the bottom it says scsi scsi [success] |
| 05:27.15 | karsten | Drako60: Indeed it does. |
| 05:27.18 | karsten | Drako60: Pardon? |
| 05:27.24 | caphuso | Drako60: because it's a netinstall and can't install anything without the net |
| 05:27.34 | jmilton | it can't find it karsten |
| 05:27.57 | karsten | jmilton: apt-get install modeline |
| 05:28.00 | jmilton | karsten, it says it can't find the package modline, and lists some packages that refer to it, one of which i already have |
| 05:28.02 | karsten | jmilton: What release are you running? |
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| 05:28.06 | jmilton | ^^^ |
| 05:28.07 | Drako60 | well there was no amd64 non netinstall iso, and i still haven't figured out which network card i'm using |
| 05:28.10 | jmilton | sarge/unstable |
| 05:28.16 | caphuso | karsten: you can repeat that as long as you want, that doesn't change the fact that there is no modeline package in anything newer than woody |
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| 05:28.28 | cahoot | jmilton: spelling error? |
| 05:28.41 | karsten | caphuso: There isn't? |
| 05:28.47 | caphuso | !info modeline |
| 05:28.54 | caphuso | 07:28 [dpkg] Package 'modeline' does not exist. |
| 05:28.54 | jmilton | cahoot, i copied and pasted karstens commands, so i doubt it |
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| 05:29.25 | caphuso | and i'm not even sure if modelines for svgalib are of any use to jmilton |
| 05:29.30 | karsten | jmilton: My bad. |
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| 05:29.53 | jmilton | thats ok, i appreciate all your help :) |
| 05:29.53 | karsten | jmilton: perhaps 'videogen' |
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| 05:30.05 | karsten | jmilton: 'apt-cache search modeline' |
| 05:30.20 | jmilton | karsten: i tried that, and it wasn't found |
| 05:30.31 | karsten | jmilton: Gah! |
| 05:30.40 | karsten | caphuso: ...and why wouldn't these be of any use? |
| 05:30.48 | karsten | jmilton: There should be an online generator, sec. |
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| 05:31.15 | karsten | jmilton: ...or let me install here... |
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| 05:31.45 | caphuso | karsten: doesn't svgalib use a different modeline format than xfree86? ISTR something like that |
| 05:31.52 | karsten | caphuso: NFC. |
| 05:31.53 | MidgetSpy | which locale is us english dvorak? I'm looking through the list while installing and it doesn't seem obvious |
| 05:31.57 | karsten | caphuso: ...news to me. |
| 05:32.32 | karsten | MidgetSpy: I think it's a keyboard layout, not locale. |
| 05:32.35 | mwilson | MidgetSpy: None. |
| 05:32.41 | MidgetSpy | ok, thanks |
| 05:32.51 | karsten | MidgetSpy: xmodmap <mapfile> |
| 05:32.55 | jmilton | caphuso, reading the man for videogen, it looks like it generates modelines i need, for nvidia's driver, i just have no idea how to use it |
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| 05:33.12 | karsten | jmilton: Sec, I've got you with modeline ;-) |
| 05:33.18 | karsten | jmilton: I suspect it's interactive. |
| 05:33.24 | christine | caphuso: i thought gtf would be helpful for modline? |
| 05:34.02 | karsten | jmilton: It's going on a slow box here. Fast box has a stuffed /usr.... |
| 05:34.10 | caphuso | jmilton: run some_modes |
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| 05:34.39 | kingsley_ | Would someone be willing to DCC /etc/init.d/xfstt to me? |
| 05:34.56 | mwilson | Why would anyone need to? |
| 05:35.05 | christine | jmilton: how about trying gtf |
| 05:35.10 | bioOrganic | # lspci | grep audio |
| 05:35.13 | bioOrganic | 00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02) |
| 05:35.16 | jmilton | caphuso, i don't know what the maximum dot clock for my card is |
| 05:35.24 | caphuso | jmilton: it's in the manual |
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| 05:35.30 | bioOrganic | what can i do with that information ? |
| 05:35.40 | bioOrganic | i know what sound card i have, but not how to configure it |
| 05:35.52 | karsten | jmilton: Try: ModeLine "1280x1024@60" 112.570 1280 1320 1720 1760 1024 1025 1032 1066 |
| 05:36.00 | jmilton | this is a pretty old card, i definitely don't have a manual for my card |
| 05:36.06 | jmilton | karsten, where? |
| 05:36.07 | karsten | jmilton: Assuming 60 Hz (typical for LCD) |
| 05:36.16 | karsten | jmilton: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 05:36.23 | karsten | jmilton: ...in the 'monitor' section. |
| 05:36.29 | jm_ | it's typical for older generation of LCD screens |
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| 05:36.57 | karsten | mwilson: Mine goes to 11. |
| 05:37.01 | jmilton | my lcd is 60Hz recommended, although it does 75, so i'll stick to 60 |
| 05:37.09 | jmilton | its not like it makes a difference |
| 05:37.14 | mwilson | Only to eleven? :) |
| 05:37.19 | jm_ | they always give you that crap about recommended resolution |
| 05:37.22 | jmilton | thanks karsten, will try that now. (brb!) |
| 05:37.27 | karsten | jmilton: OK. Most decent HW will cut out if you overdrive it. |
| 05:37.37 | karsten | mwilson: Wot y' mean, guv, *only* 11? |
| 05:37.41 | mwilson | jm_: But we're not talking about recommended resolution, now are we? |
| 05:37.54 | mwilson | [22:36] <karsten> mwilson: Mine goes to 11. |
| 05:38.01 | karsten | jm_: On LCD, you don't have CRT scan flicker. |
| 05:38.13 | karsten | mwilson: Can't you read my cockney accent? |
| 05:38.14 | jm_ | mwilson: <jmilton> my lcd is 60Hz recommended, |
| 05:38.19 | jm_ | karsten: indeed |
| 05:38.28 | mwilson | karsten: Yes, but the refresh rate controls maximum frame rate, otherwise you get tearing. |
| 05:38.46 | karsten | mwilson: All the girls tear around me.... |
| 05:38.50 | jm_ | heh |
| 05:39.09 | mwilson | jm_: And LCD's most certainly have a native resolution. |
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| 05:39.38 | jmilton | karsten, no luck sadly, and the XFree86.0.log says the same thing |
| 05:40.03 | kingsley_ | How does one find out which package a certain true type font came from ? |
| 05:40.09 | karsten | jmilton: Paste that and your updated XF86Config-4 |
| 05:40.16 | karsten | kingsley_: dpkg -S |
| 05:40.19 | jm_ | kingsley_: the same as for any other file |
| 05:40.25 | jmilton | to where? |
| 05:40.30 | karsten | kingsley_: ...on font name, generally. |
| 05:40.37 | karsten | !tell jmilton about paster |
| 05:40.40 | jmilton | thanks |
| 05:41.07 | karsten | jmilton: 75Hz line, may work: ModeLine "1280x1024@75" 156.881 1280 1336 1888 1944 1024 1025 1034 1076 |
| 05:41.41 | kingsley_ | karsten & jm_: So when I look at a font in GIMP named -ttf-arial-medium-i-normal-*-*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1, how do I find its file's name? |
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| 05:42.32 | karsten | kingsley_: locate ariel |
| 05:42.57 | karsten | You're looking for a TrueType font, so 'ariel.ttf prolly. |
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| 05:43.23 | karsten | $ locate arial.ttf: /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/arial.ttf |
| 05:43.40 | christor | PLease How can I check the version of a drivers currently installed? |
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| 05:43.50 | jmilton | karsten, http://channels.debian.net/paste/81 |
| 05:43.59 | karsten | christor: They should match your kernel. That doesn't make sense. |
| 05:44.11 | jm_ | kingsley_: you can also check fonts.alias files and then go from there |
| 05:44.23 | karsten | jmilton: Got it. |
| 05:45.01 | karsten | jmilton: (II) NV(0): Not using mode "1280x1024@60" (hsync out of range) |
| 05:45.15 | jm_ | heh |
| 05:45.19 | christor | karsten: I have a problem of transmission tcp with my network card, and I want to isntall a new drivers |
| 05:45.39 | christor | How can I know if the drivers is not the same , like the old installed? |
| 05:46.14 | karsten | jmilton: That's X bailing out. Try increasing your HorizSync range, say, 30-110. |
| 05:46.22 | kingsley_ | karsten: What does dpkg -S /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/arial.ttf return on your box? |
| 05:46.37 | karsten | kingsley_: Well, /usr/local isn't managed by APT, so nothing. |
| 05:46.50 | karsten | kingsley_: That's a font I've installed myself from somewhere. |
| 05:46.53 | jmilton | karsten, um, i'm not sure about that, the ones i have in there are the ones from my monitors manual |
| 05:46.55 | karsten | kingsley_: May be msttcorefonts. |
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| 05:47.27 | karsten | jmilton: Let's try overdriving it. If the monitor's not happy, it should give you an 'out of range' error. Physical damage is pretty unlikely. |
| 05:47.40 | karsten | jmilton: ...though you may lock your system (unlikely). |
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| 05:49.30 | karsten | jmilton: By indreasing the range, X will try additional modes, that it's currently opting out of because your sync ranges tell it that they're unsupported. |
| 05:49.42 | kingsley_ | karsten: dpkg -S doesn't find my arial font either, and it just so happens that that font is crashing X! |
| 05:49.42 | karsten | jmilton: We're going to lie a bit and see what the hardware actually does. |
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| 05:49.54 | karsten | kingsley_: Well then, don't use it ;-) |
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| 05:50.10 | karsten | kingsley_: Where'd _you_ get the font from? |
| 05:50.40 | kingsley_ | karsten: Unfortunatley, I don't recall installing it. |
| 05:50.43 | karsten | kingsley_: Your fonts are listed on your font path, BTW, and arial will be in one of those directories. Specified in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. I think. |
| 05:50.48 | kingsley_ | s/le/el/ |
| 05:50.56 | karsten | kingsley_: Damned badgers. |
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| 05:51.03 | jmilton | karsten, ok trying... |
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| 05:53.02 | kingsley_ | karsten: My understanding is that the Fontpaths in XF86Config-4 are used by X, and not xfstt. Anyway, I think I found the file with a creative use of locate and grep. |
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| 05:53.16 | jmilton | karsten, you are a genius :) |
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| 05:56.44 | lehel | hello Gnea |
| 05:56.47 | lehel | r u? |
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| 05:59.14 | kingsley_ | karsten: I seem to have copied the true type font six years ago from an old windows emulator named "wabi". |
| 05:59.17 | karsten | jmilton: ;-) |
| 05:59.25 | karsten | jmilton: Though I *did* know that ;-) |
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| 05:59.39 | karsten | kingsley_: Heh. |
| 05:59.55 | karsten | kingsley_: I think some of my fonts are from my one-time NT box of ~1997. |
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| 06:00.43 | kingsley_ | At least the files are the same size. |
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| 06:02.08 | kingsley_ | diff says they're the same too. |
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| 06:02.42 | frazzlerock | kingsley_, i haven't followed the _entire_ conversation and i'm not at all a debian expert but have you considered apt-get install msttcorefonts to get a new copy of arial? |
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| 06:03.29 | wzrdf | morning |
| 06:03.29 | kingsley_ | frazzlerock: I had not. Thanks. Perhaps I will after trying to weed out suspect fonts. |
| 06:03.37 | jetdotnet | apt-get install --reinstall |
| 06:04.02 | jetdotnet | the fontpaths are fallbacks |
| 06:04.06 | frazzlerock | night :) |
| 06:04.13 | IDC | i am having a very strange problem |
| 06:04.28 | IDC | I cannot boot to linux with new kernel |
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| 06:05.22 | furrywolf | idc: that doesn't sound very strange. but perhaps if you actually told us what the problem is (error message? etc), we could help. |
| 06:05.26 | IDC | i select new kernel in the boot menu from lilo,it tries to boot,but ... |
| 06:05.53 | jetdotnet | but you fuxored the initrd? |
| 06:06.07 | jetdotnet | ooopsies |
| 06:06.19 | streuner | IDC: custom kernel? |
| 06:06.26 | IDC | it stops there and say "The device node /dev/hda3 for the root filesystem is missing,incorrect,or there is no entry for the root filesystem in /etc/fstab. The system is also unable to create a temporary node in /dev/shm to use as a work-around |
| 06:06.32 | jetdotnet | :::streuner::: |
| 06:06.34 | jetdotnet | !initrd |
| 06:06.34 | dpkg | i guess initrd is initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230 |
| 06:06.52 | jetdotnet | or, if you made a homerolled, take it out |
| 06:06.55 | IDC | streuner, yeah,custom kernel,it used to work,never had problem like this |
| 06:06.56 | MidgetSpy | hey guys, I just installed sarge but it was unable to start X with the options I chose (not sure why yet). where do I edit those options and how do I try it again? |
| 06:07.11 | Solet | how can a package be un installed in a manner in which all configureation files are also removed? |
| 06:07.16 | dondelelcaro | MidgetSpy: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86; /msg dpkg set up x |
| 06:07.22 | dondelelcaro | Solet: use the --purge option |
| 06:07.22 | jetdotnet | take the initrd statement out of the vmlinuz stanza of your bootloaders .conf |
| 06:07.42 | jetdotnet | comment out |
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| 06:08.06 | MidgetSpy | thanks dondelelcaro |
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| 06:08.34 | IDC | but my old kernel can boot no problem |
| 06:08.39 | IDC | how strange ... |
| 06:08.41 | Solet | dondelelcaro: with apt-get or dpkg? |
| 06:08.46 | dondelelcaro | Solet: either or |
| 06:08.47 | jetdotnet | idc try /lastlog jetdotnet |
| 06:08.47 | karsten | frazzlerock: good call (msttcorefonts) |
| 06:08.56 | frazzlerock | no prob |
| 06:08.59 | IDC | pl |
| 06:09.01 | IDC | ok |
| 06:09.03 | jetdotnet | ea |
| 06:09.04 | dondelelcaro | Solet: if you've already removed the package, use dpkg --purge PACKAGENAME |
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| 06:09.17 | dondelelcaro | Solet: otherwise, apt-get --purge remove packagename; man dpkg; man apt-get; |
| 06:09.49 | IDC | jetdotnet, ? |
| 06:09.55 | jetdotnet | in irc |
| 06:10.04 | jetdotnet | not console |
| 06:10.41 | IDC | jetdotnet, but it gives a long list |
| 06:10.53 | jetdotnet | try the last 10 lines |
| 06:10.54 | IDC | if i do it here i will be kicked |
| 06:11.01 | jetdotnet | what? |
| 06:11.16 | jetdotnet | /lastlog jetdotnet |
| 06:11.20 | IDC | jetdotnet, it says 'nerver sign on' |
| 06:11.24 | jetdotnet | don't cut&paste |
| 06:11.27 | IDC | only root and normal user |
| 06:11.30 | jetdotnet | dsalkjf;;;lads;dsafdsa;lhfdsa;fhdsahfdsajhfjkdsahfkjsdhfsadfsadf |
| 06:11.34 | jetdotnet | okie |
| 06:11.42 | furrywolf | jetdotnet: don't bother. :P |
| 06:11.47 | jetdotnet | dude, IDC: do you use lilo or grubn |
| 06:11.51 | jetdotnet | grub |
| 06:11.53 | IDC | lilo |
| 06:12.06 | IDC | i never had this problem using a new kernel made by me |
| 06:12.09 | IDC | strange :( |
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| 06:12.21 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 06:12.24 | frazzlerock | karsten, does msttcorefonts seem to install the fonts in the correct place so they work? |
| 06:12.30 | IDC | especially,i recompiled 2.6.11.7 couple days ago,no problem,not just the .8 release |
| 06:12.51 | jetdotnet | ok now do this in console: ls /boot ... do you see an initrd.img- that matches your vmlinuz- that you just compiled?> |
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| 06:12.58 | nullvoid | I had installed wu-ftpd and able to login within localhost (anonymous) but I can't from other machine, how do I allow this? |
| 06:13.39 | IDC | jetdotnet, i did run 'make menuconfig' on X,was that a problem ? |
| 06:13.46 | jetdotnet | no it wasn't |
| 06:13.50 | IDC | hmm |
| 06:13.52 | jetdotnet | answer what i asked thougyh |
| 06:14.08 | IDC | jetdotnet, lastlog ? |
| 06:14.25 | jetdotnet | [01:12:52] <jetdotnet> ok now do this in console: ls /boot ... do you see an initrd.img- that matches your vmlinuz- that you just compiled?> |
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| 06:15.14 | jetdotnet | xterm or console, either |
| 06:15.19 | IDC | wait |
| 06:15.27 | jetdotnet | !wait |
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| 06:15.46 | jetdotnet | heh it's nyle? |
| 06:15.54 | Xsquared | hi, how can i change the terminal font to be smaller, or make the resolution smaller? I heard that svgatextmode is obsolete, how should i do this now? |
| 06:15.56 | IDC | jetdotnet, no such thing |
| 06:16.13 | IDC | ohh yes |
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| 06:16.28 | IDC | you mean vmlinuz-2.6.11.8 ? |
| 06:16.32 | IDC | there is ,yeah |
| 06:16.46 | frazzlerock | karsten, does msttcorefonts seem to install the fonts in the correct place so they work? |
| 06:16.47 | IDC | in lilo.conf,there is entry to point to this too |
| 06:16.49 | jetdotnet | yes that, but is there a matching initrd.img-2.6.11.8 |
| 06:17.14 | IDC | jetdotnet, what do you mean ? |
| 06:17.15 | CroatianNinja | i can surf the internet and resolve domain names to ip addresses but i cant ping anything for some reason. what is wrong? sarge kernel 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 06:17.37 | jetdotnet | i mean is there a /boot/initrd.img-2.6.11.8 file |
| 06:17.40 | kingsley_ | Do I need to re-index the true type font files in a directory after deleting some? |
| 06:17.53 | streuner | CroatianNinja: hardware-router? |
| 06:18.14 | jetdotnet | you must mean regenerate the font cache |
| 06:18.22 | CroatianNinja | streuner, what do you mean? |
| 06:18.44 | IDC | jetdotnet, i m lost |
| 06:18.44 | streuner | CroatianNinja: you are using an hardware-router to connect to i-net? |
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| 06:18.58 | Xsquared | CroatianNinja: do you have a gateway set? |
| 06:19.06 | IDC | jetdotnet, like i always recompile kernel like this never had problem |
| 06:19.10 | CroatianNinja | hang on i need to get into another irc client |
| 06:19.12 | CroatianNinja | brb |
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| 06:19.22 | jetdotnet | idc, it's a simple question: do ls /boot/initrd.img* , is there a initrd.img-2.6.11.8 |
| 06:19.51 | IDC | no |
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| 06:20.06 | IDC | jetdotnet, no such thing contain 'img' keyword in /boot |
| 06:20.09 | jetdotnet | ok. now is there a /initrd.img |
| 06:20.16 | IDC | NO |
| 06:20.29 | jetdotnet | it's a different question and file and location |
| 06:20.31 | IDC | but my old kernel can boot no problem |
| 06:20.33 | jetdotnet | still sure? |
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| 06:20.49 | IDC | boot# ls |
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| 06:20.58 | CroatianNinja | ok im back |
| 06:21.03 | jetdotnet | i didn't say in /boot , dude, i said in / |
| 06:21.08 | jetdotnet | (this time) |
| 06:21.20 | IDC | boot.0300 config-2.2.20-idepci map System.map-2.2.20-idepci vmlinuz-2.6.11.8 boot.b debian.bmp sarge.bmp System.map-2.6.11.8 coffee.bmp debianlilo.bmp sid.bmp vmlinuz-2.2.20-idepc |
| 06:21.32 | jetdotnet | that is /boot |
| 06:21.36 | IDC | oh,wait |
| 06:21.41 | jetdotnet | i'm not asking about /boot anymore.. ok |
| 06:22.11 | IDC | i have a folder initrd in/ |
| 06:22.25 | jetdotnet | ok but no initrd.img symlink.. good. |
| 06:22.34 | CroatianNinja | i can use the internet and resolve host names to ip addresses but i can't ping anything outside of my network. what is worng? |
| 06:22.36 | CroatianNinja | wrong |
| 06:22.40 | IDC | hmm |
| 06:22.46 | streuner | CroatianNinja: you are using an hardware-router to connect to i-net? |
| 06:22.55 | jetdotnet | you fuxored something in the make menuconfig, didn't compile in support for your ide channels or something |
| 06:22.57 | wzrdf | how can i upgrade debian stable to a 2.4 kernel ? |
| 06:23.01 | CroatianNinja | streuner: yes |
| 06:23.05 | jetdotnet | !real kernel |
| 06:23.05 | dpkg | from memory, real kernel is The Debian install kernels are meant for just that: installing. If you want things like wide module support and netfilter, install a proper kernel. 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386' will see you through, if you have no idea. First though, do apt-cache search kernel-image- . Woody install kernels have several known vulnerabilities, including local roots & remote DoSes |
| 06:23.12 | CroatianNinja | streuner: but ping used to work |
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| 06:23.32 | streuner | CroatianNinja: so what did you change? |
| 06:23.38 | CroatianNinja | streuner: do i need to open a port or something? |
| 06:23.49 | IDC | jetdotnet, you sure ? |
| 06:23.50 | jetdotnet | or apt-cache search kernel-image, pick one, apt-get install it. but you will need to add the initrd statement in lilo.conf |
| 06:24.03 | wzrdf | jetdotnet, i did that (but 686) and had lots of module errors on bootup |
| 06:24.04 | CroatianNinja | streuner: i dont know, i just tried to ping something one day and it didn't work |
| 06:24.05 | jetdotnet | idc, yeah pretty sure. |
| 06:24.11 | IDC | jetdotnet, i mean,i missed something in kernel config ? |
| 06:24.16 | freewoody | Hi all |
| 06:24.16 | IDC | hmm |
| 06:24.18 | jetdotnet | idc yeah |
| 06:24.36 | IDC | jetdotnet, let me check ,you mean especially in the Device part in kernel config ? |
| 06:24.40 | furrywolf | or, of course, you simply have the root device set wrong... |
| 06:25.02 | jetdotnet | wzrdf: you added the initrd= statement in lilo.conf? |
| 06:25.07 | jetdotnet | and reran lilo? |
| 06:25.08 | streuner | CroatianNinja: how many clients do you have in LAN? |
| 06:25.16 | wzrdf | jetdotnet, yep |
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| 06:25.25 | CroatianNinja | streuner: 4 |
| 06:25.26 | lehel | hello |
| 06:25.45 | streuner | CroatianNinja: and the debian-box is the only box you can't ping with? |
| 06:25.48 | jetdotnet | what's the 2.4 equiv of module-init-tools |
| 06:25.54 | jetdotnet | modtools? |
| 06:25.58 | CroatianNinja | yeah |
| 06:25.58 | Penix | modutils |
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| 06:26.12 | CroatianNinja | streuner: yeah |
| 06:26.15 | jetdotnet | wzrdf: make sure you have modutils |
| 06:26.18 | lehel | Gnea: r u? |
| 06:26.24 | streuner | CroatianNinja: /msg dpkg dhcp client |
| 06:26.45 | CroatianNinja | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:26.49 | jetdotnet | ~penixstrike |
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| 06:27.01 | jetdotnet | dammit i liked those |
| 06:27.06 | wzrdf | jetdotnet, i have modutils .. the kernel loads .. just with lots of module errors |
| 06:27.09 | streuner | CroatianNinja: and disable all scripts (route, ifconfig or such) |
| 06:27.20 | CroatianNinja | ok that is a good idea |
| 06:27.33 | jetdotnet | like what errors, are they similar? |
| 06:27.56 | wzrdf | yes, about the nic, complaining about pcmcia .. ext3 .. etc |
| 06:28.33 | jetdotnet | wzrdf: one specific quote of the error then |
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| 06:28.43 | jetdotnet | aka wtf is the error |
| 06:28.59 | IDC | jetdotnet, i remember i have disabled supporting '.out' in kernel config,was that matter ? |
| 06:29.03 | jetdotnet | already loaded? |
| 06:29.21 | IDC | i added only 'elf' support |
| 06:29.24 | jetdotnet | IDC: there are 3 in that section, you need one. i forget which. |
| 06:29.34 | IDC | ok,brb,checking |
| 06:30.07 | wzrdf | May 3 07:34:02 cisco modprobe: modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/modules.dep (No such file or directory) |
| 06:30.07 | wzrdf | May 3 07:34:05 cisco last message repeated 23 times |
| 06:30.51 | jetdotnet | yeah elf is what you need idc |
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| 06:31.21 | wzrdf | oops sorry |
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| 06:33.05 | wzrdf | no idea then? |
| 06:33.21 | colk | memo to self when crontabbing something make sure the program actuall is being called right otherwise you will end up with millions of emails saying it cant do it |
| 06:33.48 | Solet | deborphan doesnt accually remove the packages does it???? or do i need an additional paramater to make it remove them? |
| 06:34.08 | jetdotnet | wzrdf: is there such a file? |
| 06:34.09 | streuner | Solet: /msg dpkg deborphan |
| 06:36.00 | Solet | streuner... is there a way i can uninstall/purge ALL non required packages? |
| 06:36.24 | streuner | Solet: are you too special to read the factoid? |
| 06:36.31 | Solet | i read it |
| 06:36.47 | Solet | but from what i read deborphan only picks orphaned files |
| 06:37.00 | bob2 | no, it doesn't |
| 06:37.05 | bob2 | it picks up orphaned packages |
| 06:37.19 | Solet | w/e s/files/packages... |
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| 06:38.31 | Solet | i'm gonna have to reinstall debian to fix this motherfucking screensaver... |
| 06:38.37 | bob2 | jesus |
| 06:38.39 | bob2 | of course you don't |
| 06:38.41 | bob2 | don't be stupid |
| 06:38.50 | Solet | then how the fuck do i fix it? |
| 06:39.26 | bob2 | explain your actual problem |
| 06:39.35 | Solet | i've --purge remove'd the entire xserver and all packages related (gdm gnome x-system-core xscreensaver etc) |
| 06:39.39 | bob2 | wow |
| 06:39.42 | Solet | my screensaver doesnt come on on its own |
| 06:39.43 | bob2 | what a shock that didn't fix it |
| 06:39.54 | Solet | bob2 i removed it all and put it back |
| 06:39.58 | Solet | and it was still broken |
| 06:40.02 | bob2 | wow |
| 06:40.07 | bob2 | shockingly, reinstalling didn't help |
| 06:40.10 | bob2 | that's really amazing |
| 06:40.19 | colk | did you try removing your preferences in your home dir |
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| 06:40.30 | bob2 | does it affect other users? |
| 06:40.33 | Solet | one would fucking thing that re installing would put it back the way the way it was when i reinstalled |
| 06:40.34 | colk | ive had times where a prefernece was screwed in my profile |
| 06:40.40 | digibox_ | could someone help me out a bit with wget. the man pages are a bit confuseing on some cases. -X for example. I tried "-X thumbs" "-X /thumbs/" and many other combinations but it still downloads the thumbs directory |
| 06:40.41 | Solet | bob2: i'm the only user |
| 06:40.58 | colk | not if something was changed in your home directory |
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| 06:41.01 | bob2 | Solet: so... |
| 06:41.05 | bob2 | Solet: MAKE ANOTHER USER AND CHECK |
| 06:41.22 | karsten | @comfort bob2 |
| 06:41.24 | ravenbird | There, there, bob2. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 06:41.25 | Solet | colk: wouldnt --purge remove ALL config files? (ie the fucking prefs) |
| 06:41.33 | colk | not in the home directory |
| 06:41.35 | karsten | bob2: BTW, that AMD64 box I was talking about the other day... |
| 06:41.37 | bob2 | this complete lack of deductive reasoning makes me fear for humanity |
| 06:41.44 | karsten | bob2: ...turns out it's AthlonXP :-( |
| 06:41.51 | bob2 | dang |
| 06:41.51 | sep | bob2: have faith in natural selection |
| 06:41.58 | colk | home directory is never touched by the install scripts |
| 06:42.06 | karsten | bob2: That after d/l and burning the AMD64 installer. On dialup. |
| 06:42.08 | Solet | why the fuck woulndt purge remove it... no matter where it is... |
| 06:42.13 | MidgetSpy | how do I get just a normal english dvorak layout? the layouts list 3 dvoraks (no, se, and sv) and they are all different than the standard dvorak that I've always used... ? (this is in GNOME) |
| 06:42.14 | bob2 | Solet: dude |
| 06:42.17 | Solet | if i say --purge it should kill it fucking all |
| 06:42.21 | bob2 | Solet: you don't understand how it works, stop making assumptions |
| 06:42.24 | colk | the home directory is user preferences |
| 06:42.29 | bob2 | Solet: now, make another user and see if the problem affects them |
| 06:42.32 | dondelelcaro | Solet: if it's a config file, it will be removed. What exactly are you talking about? |
| 06:42.41 | colk | --purge would only remove system preferences |
| 06:42.45 | colk | as in /etc |
| 06:42.55 | karsten | MidgetSpy: man xmodmap. Find your keymaps. |
| 06:42.58 | sep | Solet: dpkg only purges what it have installed itself. it dosnt purge things that the program have created on it's own try to remove the ~/.xscreensaver and relogin |
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| 06:43.14 | jetdotnet | grub hd labels |
| 06:43.23 | karsten | MidgetSpy: ...or just 'locate dvorak'. I find: /usr/share/keymaps/i386/dvorak/pc-dvorak-latin1.kmap.gz |
| 06:43.42 | deadcat | startmol is failing on me. i have the module but it complains that its not loaded. |
| 06:43.59 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: can you load the module manually? |
| 06:44.05 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ya. that works fine |
| 06:44.13 | deadcat | want me to paste the error in flood? |
| 06:44.16 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: sure |
| 06:44.27 | karsten | colk: Feature. |
| 06:44.38 | colk | yes you kinda wanna keep your bookmarks |
| 06:44.44 | colk | if you remove the package |
| 06:45.41 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: works fine on the previous kernel. i didnt do much change to menuconfig. just added fbsplash and pwc. i dont see how that would screw up mol though |
| 06:45.43 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: freaky... and insmod /lib/modules/2.6.11.7+pandora+20050430++debby+pwc+fbsplash/misc/mol.ko; works, and lsmod reports that it is loaded? |
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| 06:45.58 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ya. lsmod shows mol |
| 06:46.17 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: hrm... and does dmesg show anything useful? |
| 06:47.00 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: uniform CD-ROM driver unloaded |
| 06:47.08 | deadcat | thats it |
| 06:47.11 | dondelelcaro | hrm... |
| 06:47.16 | dondelelcaro | strange |
| 06:47.34 | Solet | ok so where is the prefs file in my /home/ dir? |
| 06:47.34 | Xsquared | hi, how can i change the terminal font to be smaller, or make the resolution smaller on my tty's? I heard that svgatextmode is obsolete, how should i do this now? |
| 06:47.38 | deadcat | should i recompile 2.6.10 with fbsplash and pwc and see what happen? |
| 06:47.40 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: did you recompile the mol module when you rebuilt the kernel? |
| 06:47.47 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ya. |
| 06:47.52 | colk | ~/.xscreensaver |
| 06:48.00 | jm_ | Xsquared: thst doesn't mean you can't use it if it works for you |
| 06:48.18 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: tried building the module during compile and after using m-a, same result |
| 06:48.18 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: dunno then... should have been fine. You may want to add a set -x; or strace mol to see exactly why it thinks that the mol module hasn't been loaded |
| 06:48.20 | Solet | ok we'll find out in amoment if thats the problem.... |
| 06:48.33 | Solet | nope screensaver still didnt come on |
| 06:48.35 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ok |
| 06:49.11 | dondelelcaro | Solet: what exactly is the problem? |
| 06:49.12 | tarzeau | there are ssl/tls wrappers around deamons. what about one for clients? |
| 06:49.19 | Xsquared | jm_: ? |
| 06:49.22 | colk | is it erroring or something? |
| 06:49.27 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: oh well. i am going to try 2.6.11.8 (=. if that fails then i will go back to 2.6.10 |
| 06:49.44 | colk | wait did you restart x after removing the .xscreensaver dir |
| 06:49.54 | jm_ | Xsquared: ! |
| 06:50.11 | Solet | colk: i'm using my test user i just created |
| 06:50.14 | Xsquared | jm_: it works for me, but someone told me that i shouldn't be using it |
| 06:50.33 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: by the way i have a splash image for my ttys (= bootsplash is no good so i went with fbsplash |
| 06:50.35 | colk | try running xscreensaver |
| 06:50.41 | jm_ | Xsquared: ignore them |
| 06:50.41 | colk | in a console |
| 06:50.55 | deadcat | i also hear this usplash, splashy, debsplash... |
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| 06:50.58 | Xsquared | jm_: ok, thanks |
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| 06:51.50 | dondelelcaro | Solet: again, what exactly is the problem? |
| 06:51.56 | Solet | i $display not set defaulting to ":0.0" |
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| 06:52.28 | colk | then does the screen saver appear? |
| 06:52.34 | Solet | no |
| 06:52.40 | digibox_ | could someone help me out a bit with wget. the man pages are a bit confuseing on some cases. -X for example. I tried "-X thumbs" "-X /thumbs/" and many other combinations but it still downloads the thumbs directory |
| 06:52.52 | Solet | does it make a difference that i'm on a multi head system? |
| 06:53.01 | Solet | how do i del a file? |
| 06:53.04 | colk | it could yes |
| 06:53.06 | Solet | in terminal? |
| 06:53.07 | colk | rm |
| 06:53.11 | dondelelcaro | Solet: with rm. But again, what EXACTLY is the problem? |
| 06:53.17 | Xsquared | Solet: man rm |
| 06:53.23 | Solet | ls |
| 06:53.28 | Solet | er wrong keyboard |
| 06:53.39 | colk | just dont do that with your root password:P |
| 06:53.42 | jetdotnet | makes me wonder what you're going to delete... probably XF86Config-4 |
| 06:53.53 | Solet | colk: i have twice :/ |
| 06:53.56 | colk | that wont do anything jetdotnet |
| 06:54.00 | IDC | recompiling kernel hope it works this time |
| 06:54.14 | jetdotnet | did you find what you left out, IDC ? |
| 06:54.24 | IDC | jetdotnet, no not really |
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| 06:54.49 | IDC | jetdotnet, well,cuz accidently i ran make mrproper i missed the config file gotta redo the whole thing |
| 06:54.57 | streuner | <Solet> i'm gonna have to reinstall debian to fix this motherfucking screensaver... |
| 06:55.05 | k31th | Morning guys :D |
| 06:55.07 | colk | Solet, in x run xscreensaver -verbose |
| 06:55.24 | jetdotnet | IDC: make menuconfig, under debian, will use your currently running kernel's config for a template to start from |
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| 06:55.41 | IDC | jetdotnet, i will keep the config from this kernel im compiling it if it aint gonna work i will check into it |
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| 06:55.55 | IDC | oh |
| 06:55.55 | dondelelcaro | jetdotnet: eh? not necessarily. |
| 06:55.59 | Solet | just deleted .xscreensaver... trying to see if it will work now |
| 06:56.02 | IDC | jetdotnet, i didn't know that,thanks |
| 06:56.09 | colk | it isnt your currently running kernel its whatever comes with the deb |
| 06:56.15 | IDC | i thought only by 'make oldconfig' will do |
| 06:56.33 | colk | you can copy your old config by cp /proc/config .config i belive |
| 06:56.45 | jetdotnet | dondelelcaro: works every time so far for me. |
| 06:56.53 | dondelelcaro | usually gzip -dc /proc/config.gz > .config; but yes... |
| 06:57.00 | colk | ah |
| 06:57.03 | MidgetSpy | is there a tool that controls what services start on boot? |
| 06:57.16 | dondelelcaro | MidgetSpy: ln; update-rc.d; rm;... |
| 06:57.17 | Solet | still no screensaver |
| 06:57.17 | jetdotnet | you can copy /boot/config-blah to /usr/src/kernel-source~~~/.config |
| 06:57.19 | colk | update-rc.d |
| 06:57.21 | sep | update-rc.d |
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| 06:57.33 | dondelelcaro | Solet: again, what exactly is the problem? I'm not going to repeat myself again. |
| 06:57.35 | colk | Solet, run xscreensaver -verbose in a console under X |
| 06:57.51 | colk | his screensaver isnt appearing at all |
| 06:57.55 | sep | Solet: just live without a screensaver ? :) |
| 06:57.59 | MidgetSpy | thanks. |
| 06:58.01 | jordin | KahiN, free porno videos for your mother fucker |
| 06:58.05 | dondelelcaro | well, it's not going to appear if you just run xscreensaver |
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| 06:58.07 | jetdotnet | start the gd screensaver maybe |
| 06:58.10 | jordin | jilipollas |
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| 06:58.19 | Solet | sep: old monitors... will destroy |
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| 06:58.28 | colk | turn off the monitors |
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| 06:59.06 | dondelelcaro | you have to first run xscreensaver, then run xscreensaver-demo; or xscreensaver-command; |
| 06:59.09 | Solet | colk: not an option... then if i need info right then i cant get it... |
| 06:59.23 | streuner | dondelelcaro: the screensaver from him doesn't have the same behavior, so he tried anything (deborphan, purge the packages and whole X) |
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| 06:59.49 | IDC | wb jetdotnet |
| 07:00.10 | dondelelcaro | if xscreensaver is working, it will... it's not exactly a terribly complicated program. |
| 07:00.18 | jetdotnet` | wtf was that |
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| 07:00.20 | jetdotnet` | :( |
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| 07:00.50 | Solet | ok i did the -verbose... here's all the output: http://pastebin.org/278971 |
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| 07:01.03 | jmilton | hey, can anyone recommend an editor that does syntax highlighting for c++, and isn't emacs/vi/etc. something similiar to notepad++ for windows, etc |
| 07:01.13 | colk | hmm |
| 07:01.19 | colk | did pastebin drop or something |
| 07:01.23 | nagual | ultraedit? |
| 07:01.42 | jmilton | is that for linux? link? |
| 07:01.48 | kingsley_ | Why would a GIMP window show an "arial (ttf)" font, but, when it's selected, say "The selected font is not available."? |
| 07:01.53 | streuner | colk: some dude pasted crap with it |
| 07:01.58 | Xsquared | jmilton: stop being lazy. use jed. |
| 07:02.03 | jetdotnet | gedit does syntax highlighting... not sure if it does c++ though |
| 07:02.05 | dondelelcaro | jmilton: you're going to eventually want to learn how to use emacs or vim... most everything else is garbage. |
| 07:02.27 | Xsquared | jed is the best editor ever. |
| 07:02.28 | nagual | or google |
| 07:02.35 | jetdotnet | there was cooledit but i think it's deprecated |
| 07:02.37 | colk | Solet, paste in #flood |
| 07:02.39 | streuner | Solet: that's not the output we need, /j #flood and paste the stuff there |
| 07:02.54 | tarzeau | kingsley_: because gtk is b0rked? |
| 07:03.15 | dondelelcaro | Xsquared: jed is ok, but it has some serious issues. Its WRAP mode is completely broken. |
| 07:03.16 | streuner | !start a editor war |
| 07:03.19 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: you reg for linuxworld yet? |
| 07:03.22 | streuner | !start an editor war |
| 07:03.22 | dpkg | vim is known to repel members of the opposite sex |
| 07:03.24 | jmilton | i guess gedit will do |
| 07:03.24 | tarzeau | kingsley_: mind telling us which version of gimp? have you taken a look at the BTS? |
| 07:03.26 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: I think so |
| 07:03.28 | deadcat | !start a holy war |
| 07:03.28 | dpkg | slackware sux0rz |
| 07:03.31 | bisy | jmilton: gedit from gnome sounds right up your street |
| 07:03.36 | tarzeau | textedit.app! |
| 07:03.43 | colk | !start a browser war |
| 07:03.43 | dpkg | lynx supports standards better than Konqueror! |
| 07:03.59 | bucky | anjuta is pretty good |
| 07:04.01 | kingsley_ | tarzeau: GIMP 1.2.3. I'll check BTS. |
| 07:04.02 | jetdotnet | i bought a new processor today!!! they gave me the wrong socket though!!! ( :( ) it did me no good!!! |
| 07:04.09 | tarzeau | kingsley_: woody? |
| 07:04.14 | jmilton | is it ok to install all this stuff apt wants to install? i'm running xfce, so i don't have gnome stuff |
| 07:04.17 | tarzeau | kingsley_: gtk1 can't deal with ttf fonts |
| 07:04.28 | tarzeau | kingsley_: i suggest you try gimp2 and gtk2 |
| 07:04.37 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ya. i reg. as "Neverland Ranch Security Guard", thinking of creating another one, but still thinking a good job title. |
| 07:04.38 | jetdotnet | jmilton: you have just entered the metapackage zone |
| 07:04.40 | dondelelcaro | jmilton: you can install whatever you want... the question becomes whether you actually want to install it |
| 07:04.41 | kingsley_ | tarzeau: A variety of versions, many from unstable. |
| 07:04.47 | jetdotnet | !metapackage |
| 07:04.48 | dpkg | hmm... metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. |
| 07:04.59 | jetdotnet | and some of them are doozies |
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| 07:05.02 | tarzeau | !mix |
| 07:05.02 | dpkg | well, mix is Donald Knuths fictional computer from his "The Art of Computer Programming" books, or 1009 |
| 07:05.12 | tarzeau | kingsley_: that's bad! |
| 07:05.26 | jmilton | dondelelcaro: well, i guess if apt says this is what gedit needs, then i have to install it? |
| 07:05.30 | bucky | !anjuta |
| 07:05.30 | dpkg | from memory, anjuta is a great IDE to GTK+/GNOME for C/C++, similar to KDevelop. It has auto-completion, class/function browser, etc..http://anjuta.sourceforge.net |
| 07:05.34 | dondelelcaro | jmilton: yes, assuming you actually want gedit. |
| 07:05.37 | jetdotnet | ahh |
| 07:05.46 | tarzeau | bucky: it crashed often, when i tried it |
| 07:05.58 | tarzeau | bucky: tried Gorm/ProjectCenter yet? |
| 07:06.04 | jmilton | thanks bucky, will look at it... |
| 07:06.10 | jetdotnet | jmilton those are the minimum things gnome needs to run stuff iirc... you may want to consider another package |
| 07:06.15 | jmilton | i've tried kdevelop before, way more features than i need |
| 07:06.20 | bucky | gorm? ah... gnustep |
| 07:06.24 | tarzeau | bucky: yeah |
| 07:06.44 | jetdotnet | but it's not the full on gnome suite |
| 07:06.46 | bucky | tarzeau, did you know RMS cloned himself? |
| 07:06.52 | tarzeau | bucky: no? |
| 07:07.05 | tarzeau | bucky: what's the relation to GNUstep about RMS? |
| 07:07.21 | deadcat | you guys watch family guy on sunday? (= HAHAH that was sick. |
| 07:07.25 | bucky | just gnu |
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| 07:07.42 | jmilton | i'd rather not learn emacs at this stage, i'm doing first year computer science and its just fairly simple programming, but i'm changing course next year and won't be doing anything related at all. up until a month ago i was using windows notepad without any problem hehe |
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| 07:08.28 | dondelelcaro | jmilton: well, you can learn the basics of either emacs or vim fairly quickly... |
| 07:08.40 | dondelelcaro | jmilton: in the long run knowing a good editor will save you loads of time |
| 07:08.41 | Gonzo_MMs | alguem pode me ajudar??? |
| 07:08.49 | tarzeau | !es |
| 07:08.49 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 07:08.59 | streuner | !br |
| 07:08.59 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 07:09.06 | tarzeau | !streuner |
| 07:09.06 | dpkg | I hate him. |
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| 07:09.25 | streuner | dpkg: i hate you sometimes too :-) |
| 07:09.38 | kingsley_ | tarzeau: Interesting. When I was using another true type font, GIMP crashed X! |
| 07:09.38 | kingsley_ | tarzeau: I would, but gimp2 doesn't have guash. |
| 07:09.53 | Gonzo_MMs | thank you...i'm join debian-br... |
| 07:09.54 | tarzeau | kingsley_: that's the x servers fault, no client should be able to crash it |
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| 07:10.00 | tarzeau | kingsley_: what's guash? |
| 07:11.15 | jetdotnet | !tarzeau |
| 07:11.15 | dpkg | i guess tarzeau is http://www.linuks.mine.nu, or sengun@hispeed.ch. NOT swiss, only living in switzerland, or looking for a job that has something to do with networking and development based on debian, http://www.guerkan.ch, or http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~hamberg/files/mustafa_sandal_-_araba.mp3, or the GNUStep pimpdaddy |
| 07:11.35 | tarzeau | !forget tarzeau |
| 07:11.35 | dpkg | tarzeau: i forgot tarzeau |
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| 07:11.45 | tarzeau | tarzeau is http://livecd.gnustep.org |
| 07:11.46 | kingsley_ | tarzeau: I agree. guash is a graphical user's shell. It basically displays thumbnails of all images in a directory, even .xcf file. You can pick one to edit by clicking on it. |
| 07:11.49 | streuner | dpkg, streuner |
| 07:11.49 | dpkg | i love him |
| 07:11.57 | streuner | yes, i know ;-) |
| 07:12.18 | jetdotnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.19 | dpkg | jetdotnet: okay |
| 07:12.21 | tarzeau | kingsley_: i;d use feh for that |
| 07:12.21 | jetdotnet | shit |
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| 07:12.28 | jetdotnet | !forget tarzeau |
| 07:12.29 | dpkg | jetdotnet: i forgot tarzeau |
| 07:12.43 | tarzeau | !tarzeau is http://livecd.gnustep.org |
| 07:12.43 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
| 07:13.06 | jetdotnet | dpkg, no, tarzeau is http://livecd.gnustep.org/ |
| 07:13.07 | dpkg | okay, jetdotnet |
| 07:13.10 | jetdotnet | :p |
| 07:13.20 | streuner | Is there a way to lock a factoid? |
| 07:13.23 | jetdotnet | yes |
| 07:13.25 | kingsley_ | tarzeau: What's "feh"? |
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| 07:13.34 | jetfire | anyone know what does the "bash: l: command not found" error mean? it appears everytime i run a console |
| 07:13.34 | tarzeau | kingsley_: It basically displays thumbnails of all images in a directory |
| 07:13.35 | streuner | !info feh |
| 07:13.37 | jetdotnet | !lock |
| 07:13.38 | dpkg | feh: (imlib2 based image viewer), section graphics, is optional. Version: 1.3.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 274 kB, Installed size: 452 kB |
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| 07:13.52 | tarzeau | jetfire: it means, what it says |
| 07:13.53 | jetdotnet | !tell streuner about lock |
| 07:14.02 | deadcat | feh rocks |
| 07:14.05 | jetdotnet | well you do it streuner |
| 07:14.10 | kingsley_ | drc: Does feh 1.) work with .xcf files and 2.) load the file into gimp when you click on it? |
| 07:14.12 | jetdotnet | . !lock |
| 07:14.19 | kingsley_ | tarzeau: Does feh 1.) work with .xcf files and 2.) load the file into gimp when you click on it? |
| 07:14.20 | streuner | jetdotnet: done |
| 07:14.21 | tarzeau | kingsley_: you can certainly do the 2. |
| 07:14.29 | jetfire | tarzeau how can i solve it? |
| 07:14.31 | tarzeau | kingsley_: no idea about 1., try to find out |
| 07:14.35 | jetdotnet | weird how he wouldn't tell .. diff subroutine i guess |
| 07:14.38 | tarzeau | jetfire: don't run "l" |
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| 07:15.07 | jetfire | tarzeau can you please tell me where can i change that setting? |
| 07:15.23 | jetdotnet | jetfire: you might check your .bashrc or another startup script |
| 07:15.40 | jetfire | jetdotnet where is .bashrc located? |
| 07:15.41 | jetdotnet | looks like a borked edit maybe |
| 07:15.45 | jetdotnet | in ~ |
| 07:15.51 | jetdotnet | ~/.bashrc |
| 07:15.52 | apt | ~/.bashrc is where you put all your aliases and functions. It's read at start-up time by all interactive non-login shells (e.g. xterm). To make sure it's read by a login shell (e.g. console or sshd), put "source ~/.bashrc" at the end of ~/.bash_profile |
| 07:15.57 | jetdotnet | heh |
| 07:15.57 | karsten | jetdotnet: ~ |
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| 07:17.01 | jetfire | jetdotnet .bashrc has 3 lines only, and non of them associated with bash -l |
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| 07:17.50 | jetdotnet | it's not bash -l imo, it's telling you there is no l to run |
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| 07:18.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 751] by debhelper |
| 07:18.09 | jetdotnet | something is trying to run l afaict |
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| 07:19.02 | jetdotnet | check some logs or something |
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| 07:19.44 | jetfire | what kind of logs |
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| 07:20.24 | coywolf | !op |
| 07:20.25 | sonderblade | i need to setup so that i can print to a printer over the lan, how do i do that? |
| 07:21.06 | sep | sonderblade: /msg dpkg cups |
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| 07:21.11 | coywolf | I'd like to know who has removed my ban? |
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| 07:21.36 | IDC | brb |
| 07:21.37 | streuner | coywolf: so what happened? |
| 07:21.49 | streuner | coywolf: any spam? |
| 07:21.54 | coywolf | streuner: id like to thank him |
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| 07:22.20 | streuner | coywolf: for what for? |
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| 07:22.40 | coywolf | how to call out the ops streuner |
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| 07:23.08 | jetdotnet | !ops coywolf wants an op |
| 07:23.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: coywolf wants an op |
| 07:23.24 | bob2 | blah |
| 07:23.30 | bob2 | coywolf: stop being annoying |
| 07:23.45 | jetdotnet | coywolf: add a reason |
| 07:23.57 | jetdotnet | and it better be good... |
| 07:24.07 | caphuso | it won't be |
| 07:24.11 | coywolf | bob2: i'd like to know who unbanned me, and pay spectial thanks to him |
| 07:24.24 | bob2 | I don't think anyone would have knowingly unbanned you |
| 07:24.28 | jetdotnet | jetfire: /var/log/thelogfilethathasthaterrormessageinit |
| 07:24.33 | caphuso | coywolf: do that be not being a dumbfuck this time |
| 07:24.49 | coywolf | caphuso: sure |
| 07:24.55 | coywolf | caphuso: thanks |
| 07:25.02 | jetdotnet | you can be dumb though... :p |
| 07:25.45 | coywolf | caphuso: can I know who unbanned me? or the ban expired |
| 07:25.58 | technos | It's probably built into one or more of the bots, coywolf.. They assume you learn your lesson after so long, and the ban goes poof. |
| 07:26.02 | caphuso | coywolf: was probably an accident when someone cleared the ban list |
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| 07:26.59 | coywolf | see what I'm doing here http://kernelplanet.org/ |
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| 07:27.16 | coywolf | how debian guys think of my patch? |
| 07:27.26 | coywolf | comments welcome |
| 07:27.43 | jetdotnet | coywolf: you like the enter key i see |
| 07:27.57 | sussudio | bob2: no, the idiot is coming from yet another address |
| 07:28.01 | coywolf | jetdotnet: what do you mean? |
| 07:28.14 | jetdotnet | you must like it you hit it a lot |
| 07:28.30 | bob2 | ah |
| 07:28.34 | coywolf | jetdotnet: oh, yeah, ssh is slow |
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| 07:29.22 | coywolf | bob2: how do you think of oom lca killer? useful? |
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| 07:30.10 | CrypticSquared | does anyone know of an extensive bootdisk that can check a harddrive for problems? the debian installer isn't detailed enough |
| 07:30.48 | n0op | CrypticSquared: ubdcd32 |
| 07:31.10 | jm_ | CrypticSquared: or ultimate boot cd |
| 07:31.15 | jetdotnet | yes ultimate boot cd or sysrescuecd |
| 07:31.22 | jm_ | ahh that's what ubdcd32 probably is? |
| 07:31.26 | CrypticSquared | thanks jim |
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| 07:31.33 | jetdotnet | s'what i thought |
| 07:31.43 | IDC | jetdotnet, :( |
| 07:31.50 | IDC | it does not work :( |
| 07:31.56 | jetdotnet | fix it |
| 07:31.57 | technos | CrypticSquared: http://www.toms.net/rb/ |
| 07:32.06 | IDC | Now i boot with new kernel ,it hangs up there |
| 07:32.07 | CrypticSquared | download ubcd |
| 07:32.11 | CrypticSquared | *ing |
| 07:32.45 | jetdotnet | try using the .config from your old kernel maybe idc |
| 07:32.55 | jetdotnet | you're just missing something is all |
| 07:33.28 | jetdotnet | got fs support? ide? proc set for proper optimization? |
| 07:33.34 | IDC | jetdotnet: there says -> VFS: cannot open root device '303' or unknown-block (3.3). PLease append a correct "root=" boot option . Kernel Panic - NOt syncing: VFS:Unable to mount root fs or unknown -Block (3.3) |
| 07:33.43 | bob2 | IDC: don't build your own kernel |
| 07:34.29 | IDC | jetdotnet, usually i do not need the old config to build new kernel,because i have done recompiling many many times by myself ,getting familiar to it |
| 07:34.35 | TinoW | IDC: try initrd kernel or compile support for filesystem, drive, ide-hardware etc. in |
| 07:34.41 | jetdotnet | IDC: it will function, but you're overlooking something.. it happens. when trying out this individuality stuff, you gotta just keep looking |
| 07:34.47 | IDC | but i am not sure why this time it doesnt work and i ve tried it twice from the while scratching |
| 07:34.49 | IDC | whole* |
| 07:34.52 | digibox_ | How do I add a pause to a shell script? |
| 07:34.57 | bob2 | sleep |
| 07:35.18 | digibox_ | thanks bob2. I couldnt remember what it was for the longest time |
| 07:35.19 | jetdotnet | IDC: filesystem, ide, or the processor is my guess |
| 07:35.22 | IDC | TinoW, i think i did |
| 07:35.26 | TinoW | IDC: which kernel btw? |
| 07:35.33 | IDC | 2.6.11.8 |
| 07:35.41 | IDC | yesterday with 2.6.11.7 no problem at all |
| 07:36.06 | jetdotnet | cp the .7's config to .8 dir |
| 07:36.07 | TinoW | IDC: this kernel I also had problems IIRC when I tried to make a kernel w/o initrd. Didnt have time to figure it out |
| 07:36.16 | IDC | jetdotnet, its gone |
| 07:36.32 | jetdotnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.35 | IDC | TinoW, seriously ? |
| 07:36.40 | TinoW | IDC: but most probably its one of the drivers which was missing |
| 07:36.41 | IDC | TinoW, 2.6.11.8 ? |
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| 07:37.00 | IDC | jetdotnet, no,it will not go to there by itself |
| 07:37.13 | TinoW | IDC: 2.6.11 at least. I wanted to remove the damnd temperature warning |
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| 07:37.36 | IDC | TinoW, maybe i should try 2.4.30 would you think ? |
| 07:38.05 | TinoW | IDC: no. I got some 2.6 Kernels running. Works great |
| 07:38.14 | IDC | oh |
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| 07:38.35 | IDC | very strange,thanks,let me check into it now |
| 07:39.01 | TinoW | IDC: there are just so many depencies you can overlook so quickly ;) |
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| 07:39.23 | Capkirk | does anyone know howto add a user to a debian system without typing in their password twice i need to make a script where i can just pass the password as an argument? |
| 07:39.32 | bob2 | that's insecure |
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| 07:40.08 | Capkirk | bob2: yeah i know but the machine is only on intranet not internet |
| 07:40.25 | tarzeau | why does dpatch create me debian/patches and debian/patched ? |
| 07:40.36 | caphuso | Capkirk: adduser --disabled-login, then chpasswd |
| 07:40.44 | tarzeau | i removed debian/patched and now it seems broken |
| 07:41.01 | Capkirk | caphuso: thanks |
| 07:41.01 | CroatianNinja | bob2: is that even possible? i thought you HAD to use passwd to set up a user's password. |
| 07:41.11 | digibox_ | does anyone know a program that will do the opposite of wget. like go from a folder on the computer and upload completely the contents to a FTP server? |
| 07:41.21 | tarzeau | digibox_: lftp |
| 07:41.21 | bob2 | CroatianNinja: no, you can edit /etc/passwd manually |
| 07:41.30 | bob2 | digibox_: use rsync |
| 07:41.41 | CroatianNinja | even if you use shadowed passwords? |
| 07:41.41 | tarzeau | Capkirk: man mkpasswd |
| 07:41.50 | tarzeau | CroatianNinja: yes |
| 07:41.55 | mosty | i'm having trouble with windows 2000 clients on my samba domain, they appear to join the domain ok, then they ask to be rebooted, when trying to login after the reboot i get "the system can not log you on to this domain because the systems account in its primary domain is missing or the password on that account is incorrect" what could be wrong? |
| 07:42.08 | tarzeau | mosty: #samba |
| 07:42.27 | mosty | tarzeau: i tried there already, they're all asleep |
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| 07:42.36 | Penix | I can't believe I'm sitting infront of a gnome desktop writing a python application. what have I become... |
| 07:42.38 | kingsley_ | Why would fslsfonts and xlsfonts report that truetype arial fonts can be served, but with ( what seems to me to be ) different point sizes than GIMP reports. |
| 07:43.02 | tarzeau | Penix: haha :) |
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| 07:43.20 | technos | Penix: Would you rather it was still CDE and C? :) |
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| 07:43.40 | tarzeau | technos: certainly C, yes |
| 07:43.48 | tarzeau | technos: oh and CDE > GNOME too |
| 07:44.03 | tarzeau | technos: at least it's not so inconsistent like GNOME |
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| 07:44.30 | technos | tarzeau: But look at that epe candy! The applications not linked against Motif! |
| 07:44.51 | tarzeau | technos: gnome gives me eye cancer |
| 07:45.12 | tarzeau | technos: if i want eye candy, i turn my head to direction where the secretary is sitting |
| 07:45.29 | Penix | tarzeau: you gnustep/wmaker whore ;P |
| 07:45.30 | tarzeau | (or os x, but eye candy won't get my work done) |
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| 07:45.40 | tarzeau | Penix: heh :) |
| 07:45.56 | tarzeau | Penix: at least we have calibrated displays |
| 07:46.02 | Penix | hehe |
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| 07:46.13 | caphuso | http://themes.freshmeat.net/screenshots/44336/47372/ |
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| 07:47.20 | tarzeau | TinoW: www.linuks.mine.nu/screenshots/amiwm.png |
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| 07:48.06 | TinoW | tarzeau: well, but this is still far away from MUI... |
| 07:48.15 | tarzeau | TinoW: true |
| 07:48.29 | tarzeau | TinoW: i like GNUstep for usability |
| 07:48.36 | TinoW | tarzeau: its more like classact ;) |
| 07:48.49 | caphuso | gnustep and usability? i thought those were mutually exclusive... |
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| 07:49.12 | TinoW | caphuso: instead of getting used to it you get used by it ;) |
| 07:49.20 | mutantx | can anyone help me on how to switch from jack to alsa sound server? |
| 07:49.32 | caphuso | mutantx: you don't, because alsa isn't a sound server |
| 07:49.49 | TinoW | mutante: jack off |
| 07:49.49 | karsten_ | technos: It's not dead yet. |
| 07:49.50 | TinoW | ;-) |
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| 07:49.57 | mutantx | caphuso: oh ok |
| 07:50.00 | caphuso | TinoW: indeed |
| 07:50.02 | framirez | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.13 | TinoW | framirez: 550? |
| 07:50.13 | caphuso | framirez: 550 what? |
| 07:50.16 | TinoW | eggs? |
| 07:50.16 | framirez | MB |
| 07:50.23 | framirez | :) |
| 07:50.24 | karsten_ | TinoW: Language. |
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| 07:50.31 | caphuso | framirez: make sure it's all text files, and use bzip2 |
| 07:50.32 | Gathond | framirez: generally speaking you cant |
| 07:50.36 | tarzeau | framirez: of jpegs or what? |
| 07:50.40 | sonderblade | i have a printer on the network i want to print to with cups, how do i figure out its settings and stuff? on windows its all automatic |
| 07:50.44 | mutantx | caphuso: how do I make get alsa to be the default? |
| 07:50.48 | Gathond | framirez: but tru bzip2 ... it might be able to do it in your case |
| 07:50.48 | technos | karsten_: It's not dead, sure, but for that matter neither is twm. :P They're just.. Hmm.. Out of vogue. |
| 07:50.52 | framirez | they are binaryes, modules, all |
| 07:50.54 | caphuso | mutantx: simple. don't use jack |
| 07:50.58 | framirez | its a debian linux |
| 07:51.00 | caphuso | framirez: then you don't |
| 07:51.02 | framirez | with X enviroment and gnome |
| 07:51.11 | tarzeau | framirez: remove gnome |
| 07:51.15 | tarzeau | framirez: and it'll fit perfectly |
| 07:51.15 | mosty | sonderblade: smbclient -L windowsmachinename , you should be able to see the printer name (if it's already shared) |
| 07:51.17 | caphuso | yeah, that'd help |
| 07:51.33 | framirez | coz i saw for example alots linuxlive |
| 07:51.51 | tarzeau | framirez: try dippipng your flash into holy water |
| 07:51.51 | framirez | with 180MB, they have gnome, X clients, alots applications |
| 07:52.04 | mutantx | caphuso: I did, but everytime that I boot, I have to run alsaconfig to get sound |
| 07:52.07 | tarzeau | framirez: i don't believe you one word |
| 07:52.15 | framirez | and when i try to install the linuxlive, this have 550MB |
| 07:52.26 | caphuso | gnome-core isn't that big |
| 07:52.44 | framirez | cramfs. |
| 07:52.45 | framirez | ? |
| 07:52.46 | karsten_ | technos: Funny, as I run twm relatively often -- mostly as a secondary / test / q'n'd session, granted. But it's got its uses. |
| 07:52.50 | framirez | can be the soluttion? |
| 07:52.55 | framirez | can be the solution? |
| 07:52.57 | framirez | excuse me |
| 07:53.01 | caphuso | framirez: maybe. if you manage to compress your stuff enough |
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| 07:53.05 | karsten_ | technos: One bonus: since it steals no keys, it's great for a second X session w/ fullscreen VNC. |
| 07:53.17 | framirez | caphuso but how can i mount that? |
| 07:53.25 | framirez | i nede the loop module and cramfs |
| 07:53.33 | caphuso | framirez: yes |
| 07:53.37 | framirez | but after? i need what for do that? |
| 07:53.42 | sonderblade | mosty: I can see the printer sharename but how does that help me? |
| 07:53.49 | kingsley_ | What's a good way to test if TrueType fonts are correctly installed? |
| 07:53.56 | framirez | sonderblade i need utilize CUPS |
| 07:54.01 | framirez | sonderblade u need utilize CUPS |
| 07:54.07 | framirez | french keyboard sux |
| 07:54.13 | technos | karsten_: I always just forget the WM if I'm just going to be running VNC or rdesktop fullscreen on one head. :/ |
| 07:54.20 | kneet | What normally sets the /usr/src/linux symlink? Have just upped from 2.6.10 to 2.6.11 and installed the kernel-headers packages too - the symlink still points to the 2.6.10 headers. I can shift it manually - but was curious as to what normally does this |
| 07:54.23 | mosty | sonderblade: try adding smb://theprinterssharename to cups |
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| 07:54.39 | karsten_ | technos: It's helpful to be able to move the window if you really want to. |
| 07:54.39 | mwilson | kneet: Nothing does, of course. |
| 07:54.49 | kneet | Well - something does - I've not set it |
| 07:54.57 | caphuso | module-assistant might |
| 07:55.00 | mwilson | Then it's not there. |
| 07:55.16 | kneet | Ah - that could be it - I know I've discussed a post-install script that does it here on channel |
| 07:55.18 | caphuso | indeed... prepare - install headers for the current kernel and set the linux symlink |
| 07:55.18 | kneet | Could be m-a |
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| 07:55.55 | mwilson | I defer to caphuso's better knowledge of it... I've never had any use for m-a. |
| 07:56.05 | caphuso | mwilson: me neither |
| 07:56.26 | kneet | Very little experience of it - used it to follow someone's guide once - thats all |
| 07:56.55 | mutantx | anyway to have alsa start without running alsaconfig everytime I boot? |
| 07:56.56 | caphuso | getting it to compile things without being root was too much work, so i dumped it pretty quickly |
| 07:57.26 | mosty | mutante: alsa is a kernel think, just load the modules like any other, or have it built into your kernel |
| 07:58.06 | mutantx | thanks |
| 07:58.48 | sonderblade | mosty: it doesnt work |
| 07:59.39 | IDC | what equipment can be an EIDE device ? |
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| 07:59.55 | IDC | not sure if i should add EIDE support in kernel |
| 08:00.09 | technos | IDC: Mostly disc drives. |
| 08:00.23 | Matadamas | someone here can just to answer a question about hardware in debian? im using ubuntu now, but it was detected automattly but i prefer to use debian for many reasons, only my problem is to detect my laptop hardware........ the question only is this one: can i use everything on hardware in debian? everything? its like if i would be in windows...,etc... i think depends on the drivers, im new on this subject, sorry about that. |
| 08:00.48 | bob2 | if you're new to linux, don't use debian |
| 08:00.50 | mosty | matadamas, try it and see |
| 08:00.59 | technos | Matadamas: There is no difference per se between the two supported sets of hardware. |
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| 08:01.04 | drcoded | Hi all |
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| 08:01.19 | bob2 | drcoded: dude, your question is not on-topic here |
| 08:01.26 | tarzeau | Matadamas: no some new hardware won't work with linux |
| 08:01.28 | sep | Matadamas: sarge supports the new hardware, woody is from 2002 and dont support new hardware, so get sarge |
| 08:01.33 | tarzeau | sep: not all |
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| 08:02.35 | IDC | technos, ok |
| 08:02.38 | Matadamas | i got sarge and ran it in my laptop but i couldn't, may be i need to try much more |
| 08:02.56 | Matadamas | i new in linux |
| 08:03.00 | Matadamas | im 17 years old |
| 08:03.04 | Matadamas | but i love computers |
| 08:03.11 | Matadamas | i would like to learn |
| 08:03.32 | Matadamas | my language is spanish, im sorry if i make mistakes |
| 08:03.52 | sep | tarzeau: no, but this was a conversion between ubuntu and sarge right ? so if ubuntu can support it i'd assume sarge could also |
| 08:04.17 | tarzeau | sep: don't assume such things |
| 08:04.32 | tarzeau | sep: ubuntu is only three arches, while debian is 11 |
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| 08:05.19 | Matadamas | yes, someone told me that, if ubuntu could support then debian too, but i couldn't automattly i gotta compile my drivers or somethings in special, i dont know very well yet |
| 08:05.24 | deadcat | ok. mol is not working for me on 2.6.11.[78], going back to .10 |
| 08:05.24 | sep | tarzeau: yes well iv never tried ubuntu, but both use the linux kernel. |
| 08:05.47 | tarzeau | sep: yes that doesn't mean anything |
| 08:05.47 | PerfDave | !es |
| 08:05.47 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 08:05.59 | tarzeau | sep: there's alot of different versions and ways you can build it (with/without support for foo and bar) |
| 08:06.14 | PerfDave | Matadamas: What problem did you have with installing Sarge on your laptop? |
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| 08:07.11 | deadcat | bob2: you use mol? |
| 08:07.16 | Matadamas | none problem, but for example, i have wireless, i couldn't use this one, but in ubuntu automattly detected this one, i dont know why |
| 08:07.23 | bob2 | deadcat: no |
| 08:07.40 | Matadamas | audio too about problems |
| 08:07.46 | Matadamas | audio card |
| 08:07.48 | deadcat | Matadamas: because ubuntu assumes you're dumb and installs wireless for you |
| 08:08.25 | PerfDave | Matadamas: What wireless card do you have? |
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| 08:09.27 | framirez | iwconfig ath0 key s:dcfrgq23f4GHh ("128 bits") :) |
| 08:09.46 | framirez | dhclient ath0 |
| 08:10.00 | Matadamas | if im slow im very sorry about that... im learning english too... ok im gonna tell you my wireless card |
| 08:10.01 | transgress | woohoo debian shirt came in today |
| 08:10.15 | transgress | now i have a got root hat and a debian shirt to wear with it... i need some linux pants. heh |
| 08:10.19 | framirez | where you comes from mata |
| 08:10.20 | framirez | where you comes from Matadamas |
| 08:10.41 | deadcat | transgress: you look like a damn nerd already (= |
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| 08:11.07 | Matadamas | 0000:02:0b.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05) |
| 08:11.13 | Matadamas | i got my driver |
| 08:11.21 | framirez | Matadamas: lspci -v |
| 08:11.29 | framirez | its more short the description |
| 08:11.29 | technos | transgress: Need to pick up a http://www.giantrobotprinting.com/store/shirts/commies/ccbusiness shirt too. Make you look like a nerd *and* a scofflaw. |
| 08:11.31 | Matadamas | but i never could to do to run this one |
| 08:12.16 | Matadamas | its intel driver/hardware |
| 08:12.31 | IDC | 涓鑸殑IDE纭洏涔熷彲浠ユ敮鎸侀暱鏃堕棿寮鏈猴紵 |
| 08:12.45 | IDC | sorry,wrong channel |
| 08:12.47 | roo9 | IDC: yes, most certianly, i agreet totally |
| 08:13.04 | IDC | roo9, for sure ? |
| 08:13.25 | transgress | technos: i really do |
| 08:13.25 | Matadamas | framirez, how old are you? and where are you from? |
| 08:13.36 | transgress | technos: i need some new shirts anyway hehe |
| 08:13.44 | Matadamas | im 17 years old i learn alone, but i wanna learn faster |
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| 08:14.16 | Matadamas | my problem was to use windows much time |
| 08:14.33 | Matadamas | but i know litte about many programming languages |
| 08:14.40 | Matadamas | and a little of everything |
| 08:15.03 | kezzlock | hi |
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| 08:15.31 | Matadamas | so you recommend for me to install debian again if i prefer it, and try and try and try hehe, until i can get it |
| 08:15.36 | Matadamas | is it right? |
| 08:16.19 | framirez | 20 years old |
| 08:16.22 | Matadamas | i refer about to compile my drivers or configure, because its not automattly in my pc like it was in ubuntu |
| 08:16.25 | Matadamas | oh really? |
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| 08:16.31 | framirez | i comes from France, but i was born in Chili |
| 08:16.36 | framirez | :) |
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| 08:16.54 | Matadamas | nice to meet you |
| 08:16.57 | Matadamas | im 17 |
| 08:16.58 | framirez | me too |
| 08:17.02 | framirez | where you comes from |
| 08:17.08 | Matadamas | i love computers |
| 08:17.10 | Matadamas | im from mexico |
| 08:17.15 | Matadamas | acapulco city |
| 08:17.15 | framirez | que buscas caute |
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| 08:17.19 | Matadamas | do you know mexico? |
| 08:17.19 | framirez | que buscas cuate |
| 08:17.22 | Matadamas | hahaha |
| 08:17.28 | framirez | i have alots friends from Mexico here* |
| 08:17.42 | roo9 | IDC: yes, absolutely |
| 08:17.44 | Matadamas | you're good talking in spanish |
| 08:17.49 | Matadamas | i am in canada right now |
| 08:17.51 | IDC | ok |
| 08:17.53 | Matadamas | learning english |
| 08:17.55 | framirez | hahaha |
| 08:18.02 | Matadamas | but i have been here only few days |
| 08:18.05 | Matadamas | living alone |
| 08:18.07 | framirez | iam in france learning french |
| 08:18.18 | framirez | but you know, the fernch its more easy, if you speak spanish |
| 08:18.24 | Matadamas | but i wanna become good about this subject |
| 08:18.32 | Matadamas | yes |
| 08:18.38 | framirez | like "salut", "saludos" |
| 08:18.39 | tarzeau | can you stop this a/s/l talk please? |
| 08:18.58 | IDC | I am in China learning CHinese,its hard,but i am convinced using Linux is more harder :D |
| 08:19.22 | framirez | i need to documentate all my work in French.. :( |
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| 08:19.30 | sussudio | framirez: we don't care |
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| 08:25.30 | xoz | what is this? a language channel? |
| 08:26.00 | drp | can anyone help me ... #flood |
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| 08:26.23 | jethro | moin |
| 08:26.33 | drasko | hi all. How to create new net interface from the command line? |
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| 08:28.01 | Bart-mdv- | drasko: ifconfig ? |
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| 08:28.11 | simonrvn | man ifconfig |
| 08:28.42 | TinoW | or vi /etc/networkding/interfaces and ifup <interfaceY> :) |
| 08:29.02 | framirez | for example: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
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| 08:30.36 | Bart-mdv- | or virtual interface: ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 08:31.19 | jethro | everyone gives its own version of the ifconfig command, but nobody knows what drasko really wants to do |
| 08:31.27 | positrix | or just plug it in and expect it to work? (omg, this actually worked for me) |
| 08:31.48 | kneet | hmmf. vmware will compile vmnet module against stock debian 2.6.11 (with headers package) but won't insmod it (Unknown symbol in module). I know that it doesn't support 2.6 series - but its worked up to now :( |
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| 08:31.56 | bob2 | drasko: you need to be way more specific |
| 08:32.16 | jethro | way more, that would be a bare minimum |
| 08:32.16 | simonrvn | specificity is good |
| 08:32.28 | Bart-mdv- | posible drasko read "man ifconfig" ) |
| 08:32.36 | drasko | thanks for all the answers... I will try it. |
| 08:32.40 | jethro | hah |
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| 08:32.47 | simonrvn | ^^^ |
| 08:33.03 | xoz__ | ls |
| 08:33.07 | Rawplayer | drasko: what do you want todo? |
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| 08:33.30 | simonrvn | xoz__: wrong window ;p |
| 08:33.40 | Bart-mdv- | :) |
| 08:34.34 | drasko | Rawplayer, just to create interface that I can not see from XFCE, and it should be cable modem eth1, connected to USB, since my eth0 is card connected in lan for internet connection shareing |
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| 08:34.53 | simonrvn | 'sharing' |
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| 08:35.03 | drasko | simonrvn, ok, sorry |
| 08:35.15 | Rawplayer | you mean like eth0 for your lan and eth1 for your external ip? |
| 08:35.18 | simonrvn | m/e mumbles something about 'hooked on phonics' kids... |
| 08:35.40 | deadcat | simonrvn: you use mol? |
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| 08:35.46 | jethro | !mol |
| 08:35.46 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mol is Mac On Linux, a sort of VMWare for PowerPCs or at ftp://ftp.nada.kth.se/pub/home/f95-sry/Public/mac-on-linux/, or finally packaged for debian |
| 08:35.58 | simonrvn | deadcat: taking a poll? ;p |
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| 08:36.08 | Rawplayer | usb0? :) |
| 08:36.15 | jethro | depends on the hardware |
| 08:36.17 | deadcat | simonrvn: no. its not working on my 2.6.11.[78], works fine on .10 |
| 08:36.20 | jethro | either ethn or pppn |
| 08:36.25 | drasko | Rawplayer, yes, but i can not do it from XFCE, since there is not eth1 in pull down menu, nor a button to create new interface... I should try this from the terminal. |
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| 08:36.39 | Rawplayer | drasko: do you have 2 nics? |
| 08:36.40 | Rawplayer | in your pc |
| 08:36.40 | simonrvn | deadcat: it decided to go on strike? |
| 08:36.53 | deadcat | simonrvn: hehe. maybe. |
| 08:37.00 | geemark | I am new to QEMU (the system emulator), and I have problems running any graphical OS's - qemu uses 99% cpu and nothing graphical appears |
| 08:37.01 | deadcat | unionized |
| 08:37.03 | incorrect | what would be the easiest way to centralise system accounts? nis / nfs? |
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| 08:37.11 | drasko | Rawplayer, ? |
| 08:37.12 | drp | Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5 but it is not installable or |
| 08:37.19 | deadcat | geemark: tqemu maybe? |
| 08:37.19 | drp | java2-runtime but it is not installable |
| 08:37.22 | eye69 | incorrect: I'd say LDAP is the best. |
| 08:37.27 | drp | do I need to use make-jpkg to install sun-j2sdk1.5 and java2-runtim |
| 08:37.32 | geemark | deadcat: ? |
| 08:37.34 | incorrect | eye69, thats a little over kill no? |
| 08:37.34 | deadcat | geemark: i mean kqemu |
| 08:37.50 | drasko | Rawplayer, I have cable modem to connect to usb, and ehternet card to connect to lan. |
| 08:37.51 | simonrvn | incorrect: nfs doesn't centralise accounts. and yes, you want ldap |
| 08:37.55 | jethro | incorrect: nfs and nis are more of an overkill then just using LDAP |
| 08:38.11 | framirez | geemark you need to utilise vmware, but you need to pay |
| 08:38.21 | tosh | use ldap, radius or tacacs |
| 08:38.23 | jethro | incorrect: otoh, you might want to avoid LDAP to manage different systems implementing RFC2307 in a weird way |
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| 08:38.29 | incorrect | what about things like kerberos ? |
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| 08:38.35 | sonderblade | anyone know of a good applikation to draw diagrams? |
| 08:38.37 | simonrvn | at least you can use a secure set of protocols with ldap.... |
| 08:38.38 | geemark | frami.rez: qemu has VGA support, i just can't get it to work |
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| 08:38.44 | jethro | incorrect: krb would be an overkill for sure :) |
| 08:38.49 | Rawplayer | drasko: what is your interfaces then in ifconfig for your usb cable modem |
| 08:38.52 | geemark | deadcat: kqemu =? |
| 08:38.55 | simonrvn | krb5++ |
| 08:38.57 | framirez | yes, i know, but you can't get a control with qemu |
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| 08:39.10 | deadcat | geemark: qemu hardware accel i think |
| 08:39.35 | transgress | hey someone gave me a link to a very nice shirt a second ago... anyone care to repeat it? |
| 08:39.38 | dli | ls |
| 08:39.44 | Phated | simonrvn: I read that ferby. xD |
| 08:39.49 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 08:39.53 | geemark | deadcat: i can't find any kqemu on my box, nor in the deb archives |
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| 08:40.01 | drasko | Rawplayer, for usb cable modem -- eth1 |
| 08:40.03 | deadcat | geemark: you have to compile it |
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| 08:41.06 | positrix | transgress: shift+pgup |
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| 08:41.18 | transgress | positrix: i've closed this chat since then |
| 08:41.25 | deadcat | positrix: wont work if you are in screen |
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| 08:41.44 | deadcat | i want to see the tshirt too (= |
| 08:41.45 | incorrect | which radius server is best to use? |
| 08:42.00 | deadcat | incorrect: apt-cache search radius |
| 08:42.45 | drasko | how to delete interface created with ifconfig, not to be seen when I issue ifconfig command -- how to deactivate and remove interface? |
| 08:42.52 | geemark | deadcat: thanks, i will fool a bit around with it |
| 08:42.55 | bob2 | drasko: ifconfig blah down |
| 08:43.01 | deadcat | drasko: ifconfig ethX down |
| 08:43.02 | it_deb_ | HighPingedLPB, how can i connect to a VPN ? |
| 08:43.22 | transgress | if i could figure out how to view my history in konq i might be able to find the site |
| 08:43.39 | Om | Any ideas on why marking mozilla-firefox for removal in synaptic says I have to remove apache, apache-dev and apache-common? As far as I can see neither of mozilla-firefox or apache depend on each other. |
| 08:43.42 | it_deb_ | bob2, hi after a long time, italy_m here |
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| 08:43.48 | bob2 | hi |
| 08:43.58 | it_deb_ | how can i connect to a VPN ? |
| 08:44.10 | framirez | Om you need to download all deb packets from debian.org |
| 08:44.21 | framirez | after dpkg -i --force all packet.deb |
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| 08:44.44 | bob2 | framirez: er, that's a pretty crap "solution" |
| 08:44.46 | deadcat | too bad theres no status bar when i compile kernel (= |
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| 08:44.49 | bob2 | it_deb_: you need to define vpn |
| 08:44.56 | it_deb_ | bob2, how? |
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| 08:44.59 | framirez | xDF |
| 08:45.01 | framirez | xD |
| 08:45.09 | bob2 | it_deb_: by finding out what you want to connect to |
| 08:45.10 | SlayerXP | morning hash-dweebians |
| 08:45.11 | Om | But how is mozilla-firefox at all related to apache? |
| 08:45.13 | bob2 | you can't "connect" to a vpn |
| 08:45.19 | it_deb_ | bob2: i know the IP |
| 08:45.51 | bob2 | nevermind then |
| 08:46.09 | positrix | om: it is possible that if you installed them at the same time, it may think you only want apache because firefox suggested them |
| 08:46.15 | bob2 | you need to find out what on earth whoever is running it means by "vpn" |
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| 08:46.27 | bob2 | since I can think of half a dozen systems off the top of my head |
| 08:46.47 | it_deb_ | bob2, i don't know what you mean, with windows i just put username/pwd and IP, and i connect to VPN |
| 08:46.50 | Om | positrix, so is there a way I can tell it that I want to completely remove mozilla-firefox, without removing apache? :) |
| 08:47.43 | positrix | most likely ;) |
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| 08:47.45 | transgress | positrix: http://www.giantrobotprinting.com/store/shirts/commies/ccbusiness that was the shirt |
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| 08:47.48 | bob2 | it_deb_: then your question was actually "How do I connect to a MS Windows VPN from linux?"? |
| 08:47.57 | bob2 | it_deb_: there are dozens of types of vpns |
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| 08:48.06 | bob2 | the shitty one MS wrote is only one type |
| 08:48.07 | ^rob^ | hi |
| 08:48.34 | Om | positrix, is that a "go and read though all the manpages for apt-get and dpkg"? :) |
| 08:48.43 | it_deb_ | bob2, i thought it was the same. since for me VPN is just platform indipendent... so do you think there is the possibility to connect? |
| 08:49.05 | bob2 | it_deb_: no, MS's "vpn" is one of the crapper ones out of the dozens available |
| 08:49.10 | bob2 | yes, it's possible but tedious |
| 08:49.18 | ^rob^ | can someone give me a good link to read about linux soft raid? i'd like to know about it and see the benefits or why should i use raid :) |
| 08:49.18 | bob2 | google for "linix pptp windows vpn" or something |
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| 08:49.23 | ^rob^ | i have sata hdd |
| 08:49.39 | Coke | it_deb_: if I was you I'd upgrade that Windows machine |
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| 08:50.05 | jm_ | ^rob^: that depends on what kind of RAID setup you're talking about |
| 08:50.34 | jm_ | ^rob^: but you can find plenty of docs about different RAID levels on the net, read that first so you understand what each level means and how you can combine them |
| 08:50.41 | it_deb_ | bob2, Coke : so i can't remotely connect to a VPN you mean.. |
| 08:50.45 | positrix | what sort of stuff goes in /var ? ive just run out of hdd space on my (2gig) root partition, and was wondering if 500+MB is "normal" |
| 08:50.56 | simonrvn | apt-get clean |
| 08:51.10 | PerfDave | positrix: Use du to find out what's taking up space, though I'd guess that /var/cache/apt/ will be a biggy. |
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| 08:51.24 | Coke | it_deb_: well, that too, but in general, upgrade it to whatever is better; Debian, OSX or even Knoppix. |
| 08:51.36 | ^rob^ | jm_: ty - i have access to tldp now - it seems my isp has blocked some ip's yesterday and maybe mistaked some numbers there - could not open tldp :) |
| 08:51.38 | ^rob^ | ty |
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| 08:51.41 | bob2 | it_deb_: I said you can connect |
| 08:51.45 | bob2 | but it will be annoying and tedious |
| 08:52.00 | it_deb_ | Coke, i have debian installed, but i don't now how to start... and the VPN i connect to doesn't depend on me |
| 08:52.01 | jm_ | ^rob^: well these docs are all over the place |
| 08:52.07 | saintiss | hi |
| 08:52.09 | saintiss | is there a way to tell the system to ignore (software) RAID setup, and just boot from the first HD it finds? |
| 08:52.11 | it_deb_ | bob2: how? |
| 08:52.16 | Coke | it_deb_: yes, I meant upgrade the target network machines |
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| 08:52.51 | it_deb_ | Coke, i don't have access to those machine. for what i know it can be already upgreaded |
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| 08:53.02 | positrix | simonrvm: thanks, 300+ MB just appeared out of nowhere |
| 08:53.04 | saintiss | e.g. is there a kernel parameter I can pass so that the system will not use its RAID setup? |
| 08:53.05 | simonrvn | saintiss: edit /etc/fstab, don't let the raid setup init script (mdrun or raidtab) start the raided devices |
| 08:53.27 | bob2 | 18:49:18 bob2 | google for "linix pptp windows vpn" or something |
| 08:53.33 | saintiss | simonrvn, ah... that should be possible... I'll try that... thanks |
| 08:54.13 | simonrvn | np |
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| 08:54.43 | it_deb_ | bob2, ok thank, i'll try this |
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| 09:05.03 | positrix | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.09 | simonrvn | 0 |
| 09:05.41 | caphuso | positrix: one inode, for the directory entrie |
| 09:05.49 | caphuso | s/ie/y/ |
| 09:06.00 | SlayerXP | positrix: this big <--------> (not to scale) |
| 09:06.04 | simonrvn | duh, forgot about that |
| 09:06.20 | ix | oh, somebody is reading bash.org. |
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| 09:06.37 | simonrvn | i'm sure many do |
| 09:06.45 | ix | SlayerXP sure is. |
| 09:06.56 | ix | My /proc-folder is 65MB, positrix. |
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| 09:07.12 | caphuso | ix: it's not |
| 09:07.29 | n0op | when i installed x i chose the wrong mouse port, how can i change it now |
| 09:07.31 | caphuso | and if it is, something went seriously wrong |
| 09:07.36 | bob2 | n0op: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 09:07.37 | caphuso | n0op: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:07.39 | positrix | mine was 130000 5 mins ago, but its now 1 |
| 09:07.43 | n0op | sweet |
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| 09:07.47 | bob2 | ix: it doesn't exist on disk |
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| 09:08.02 | ix | that wasn't the question, was it? |
| 09:08.11 | caphuso | it doesn't really exist anywhere |
| 09:08.21 | ix | the guy asked for a simple output. |
| 09:08.32 | ix | I haven't got a clue why he would need it, but he apparently does. |
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| 09:09.00 | caphuso | it's kinda like a quantuum thing, it doesn't exist without someone looking at it |
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| 09:09.33 | petemc | it may appear to be the same size as the amount of ram you have |
| 09:09.34 | simonrvn | s/uu/u/ |
| 09:09.40 | petemc | there or there abouts |
| 09:09.46 | Zta | Anyone here know of a WLAN USB dongle that works under Debian GNU/Linux? Not know as in "I've heard of" or "it's supported to", but know as in "I've got it working right here, right now". Ndiswrapper is not an option. |
| 09:09.52 | positrix | caphuso: thats what i thought |
| 09:09.58 | nmbntz | can somebody tell me what "qt" packages i need in order for "make xconfig" to work? i tried apt-get build-dep kernel-package, thinking it'd grab em' for me, but it didnt :( |
| 09:10.02 | positrix | petemc: i think you're right |
| 09:10.05 | caphuso | /proc/kcore should be roughly ram sized |
| 09:10.20 | n0op | now that im back at choosing the mouse port, PS/2 is not an option, but its a PS/2 mouse |
| 09:10.21 | simonrvn | "fuck! i have this 513 MB file in there!!!!111!!!" |
| 09:10.25 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 09:10.32 | ix | delete it! :O |
| 09:10.42 | bob2 | Zta: netgar ma-11,version 1 |
| 09:10.45 | caphuso | nmbntz: probably libqt3-dev |
| 09:10.53 | simonrvn | i can't i tried, even as root!!!11!!!11 |
| 09:10.53 | bob2 | er, ma-111 |
| 09:10.54 | nmbntz | caphuso, thanks. |
| 09:11.03 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 09:11.59 | Zta | bob2, thanks |
| 09:12.16 | n0op | what mouse port should i choose for a PS/2 mouse |
| 09:12.42 | n0op | oh... nm |
| 09:13.19 | nmbntz | a new problem has reared it's ugly head on my old desktop box, very troublesome. Box starts, goes to X, APM seems to be kicking in, and monitors shut off, never come back on. have to reboot. damnit. i hate puzzles. |
| 09:14.36 | treestone | nmbntz: You should normally be able to get the monitor back on by a combination of on/off power on monitor and switching forth and back between consoles (alt-ctrl-f1, alt-f7) |
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| 09:15.16 | sylvain_ | n0op: if you got a wheel, chose ImPS/2 |
| 09:15.20 | deadcat | where can i find debian package archives? i want an older version of a package |
| 09:15.30 | caphuso | deadcat: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 09:16.19 | Zta | bob2, what driver are you using for that dongle? |
| 09:16.58 | nmbntz | treestone, negative, that's what the puzzle is |
| 09:17.08 | nmbntz | nothing short of a reboot is bringing my screens back. |
| 09:17.21 | nmbntz | box is there, i'm ssh'd to it now, so it's not hung. {sigh} |
| 09:18.03 | positrix | nmbntz: did you try disabling apm? not starting x? |
| 09:18.09 | treestone | nmbntz: Strange. Does it happen after a timeout? Does it still happen if you run a screensave? When I use xlock from xlockmore I never see monitors go off. |
| 09:18.12 | bob2 | Zta: prism2_usb |
| 09:18.24 | nmbntz | apm is disabled at boot |
| 09:18.24 | treestone | saver* |
| 09:19.09 | nmbntz | *something* happened yesterday when the box locked after power outtage, something i'll have to track down. UPS didn't kick in, box is behaving... badly. |
| 09:19.30 | nmbntz | xlockmore is not installed, no screensaver is installed. |
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| 09:19.49 | nmbntz | something might've been fried, i'm thinking. nothing changed in software configuration on this box in months |
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| 09:23.04 | saintiss | simonrvn, ok, I tried to disable the mdadm and mdadm-raid scripts, but still it seems like mdadm is run at boot... Is it possible that mdadm is run from somewhere else than the init scripts? |
| 09:23.28 | simonrvn | mdrun is run from an init script |
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| 09:23.44 | saintiss | simonrvn, yes, from mdadm-raid |
| 09:24.05 | saintiss | simonrvn, but I put some output in that script, and I don't see that output, so the script is not run yet at the time when I get the error |
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| 09:24.56 | technos | Install kernel, claiming to be 2.6.8-2-32, boots and installs fine. Switch the machine to boot from the SCSI device after install, kernel claiming to also be 2.6.8-2-32 hangs initializing the HIL drivers. GRR. |
| 09:25.54 | CleriC | hi #debian |
| 09:26.22 | jethro | hi CleriC |
| 09:26.47 | CleriC | hi jet, it's all right ? |
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| 09:27.06 | CleriC | first time in this channel for me |
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| 09:28.44 | PerfDave | Is there any way to get top to display its memory usage in Mb instead of Kb? |
| 09:28.46 | Skiver | hi, any video player than can handle vcd with dual audio channels ? |
| 09:28.59 | jethro | CleriC: I m fine thanks |
| 09:29.08 | js_ | Skiver: tried mplayer? |
| 09:29.26 | PerfDave | Skiver: I'd guess at xine, but I've not used vcd. |
| 09:29.34 | CleriC | jet do you use woody ? |
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| 09:29.53 | jethro | CleriC: I do on some "production" systems |
| 09:30.20 | CleriC | well.. i want to install it |
| 09:30.30 | jethro | CleriC: is that for desktop or server use? |
| 09:30.37 | CleriC | for desk |
| 09:30.42 | jethro | !d-i CleriC |
| 09:30.42 | dpkg | CleriC, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 09:30.45 | jethro | you want d-i |
| 09:30.49 | jethro | not woody :) |
| 09:32.35 | framirez | ca va afire mal |
| 09:32.55 | Skiver | xine can't make it. |
| 09:33.08 | CleriC | jet.. just the first cd it's enough ? |
| 09:33.11 | framirez | i have alots problem with my ImpS/2 mouse |
| 09:33.24 | PerfDave | CleriC: First CD, or netinstall image. Read the Installation Manual ;) |
| 09:33.25 | framirez | but its not a big problem |
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| 09:33.49 | CleriC | right |
| 09:34.08 | CleriC | but woody is not for desktop ? |
| 09:34.11 | jethro | CleriC: if you have a decent internet connection, a netinst image would be just fine |
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| 09:34.27 | CleriC | 6Mbps |
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| 09:34.35 | jethro | CleriC: woody is more meant for server use nowadays, since the onmly point in using it is getting security updates, which sarge lacks at the moment |
| 09:34.58 | jethro | CleriC: 6mbps is enough for you to netinst ;) |
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| 09:35.05 | CleriC | ;) |
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| 09:35.08 | nagual | sarge has securityupdates. |
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| 09:35.15 | jethro | it's new then |
| 09:35.26 | CleriC | gonna install sarge |
| 09:35.35 | nagual | its had it for the last year or more. they take a while longer than woody though. |
| 09:35.40 | CleriC | thx a lot :) |
| 09:35.55 | markybob | any other port other than 25 that i need to open for smtp auth via tls? |
| 09:35.57 | PerfDave | nagual: No, Sarge doesn't have security updates, though it should do RSN. |
| 09:36.02 | jethro | nagual: I meant security.debian.org for sarge, which is lacked at the moment |
| 09:36.16 | jethro | CleriC: you're welcome |
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| 09:36.50 | jethro | s/lacked/lacking/ even |
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| 09:37.06 | bartden | hi, when i enter c++-mode in emacs, it doesnt highlight the syntax , howcome ? |
| 09:37.18 | jethro | bartden: /j #emacs |
| 09:37.46 | bartden | k |
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| 09:38.42 | petemc | bartden: have you set font-lock-mode or whatever its called? |
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| 09:40.46 | positrix | M-x global-font-lock-mode |
| 09:40.56 | IDC | finally |
| 09:41.00 | IDC | Linux Debian 2.6.11.8 #2 Wed May 4 09:23:47 CST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 09:41.05 | saintiss | simonrvn, ok, managed to boot past it now, but I can now see that these mdadm errors show up even before init is run! |
| 09:41.14 | saintiss | is that something built into the kernel then? |
| 09:41.16 | simonrvn | oh. hmm |
| 09:41.25 | IDC | :) |
| 09:41.44 | simonrvn | well, considering you never told us what errors they were ;) |
| 09:42.02 | crashbg | how can i connect to a remote kde session; both pc's using sarge, openssh, kdm and kde |
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| 09:42.12 | CleriC | jet.. sarge use Gnome or kde for default ? |
| 09:42.23 | jethro | CleriC: there is no default for that iirc |
| 09:42.43 | jethro | CleriC: as I don't use any of the two, I couldn't tell you, but I didn't have anything to remove, so my guess is there is no default |
| 09:42.57 | CleriC | ok :) |
| 09:43.01 | jethro | CleriC: you just pick the one you like the best |
| 09:43.14 | trogger | CleriC: or anything else. |
| 09:43.15 | petemc | if you install the desktop task, you get both gnome and kde |
| 09:43.37 | IDC | i forgot how to check which level im running ? |
| 09:43.44 | jethro | petemc: with tasksel? |
| 09:43.52 | petemc | yeah |
| 09:43.53 | IDC | i remember checking it in a file named fs*** |
| 09:44.08 | petemc | IDC: runlevel |
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| 09:44.21 | jethro | petemc: is there a tasksel in d-i as well? thought it was of no use |
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| 09:44.29 | IDC | N 2 |
| 09:44.53 | petemc | jethro: there is, some people find it useful |
| 09:44.58 | jethro | petemc: s/of .*$/not to be advertised/ |
| 09:45.05 | jethro | yeah I rephrased :) |
| 09:45.05 | IDC | petemc, after i know im running level 2,where in /etc/ there list the program run at startup ? |
| 09:45.32 | IDC | irc2.d ? |
| 09:45.52 | dli | anyone using gnome? how to get the default layout? I messed up |
| 09:45.56 | petemc | IDC: depends what exactly you wany yo achieve |
| 09:46.26 | IDC | i got it,brb |
| 09:46.33 | petemc | IDC: check tha faq mentioned in the topic, and zless /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.runlevels.gz |
| 09:46.34 | positrix | dli: delete your dotfiles. works everytime |
| 09:46.50 | IDC | petemc, thanks |
| 09:47.46 | dli | positrix, .gnome and .gnome2 ? |
| 09:49.21 | dli | positrix, I tried gDesklets, useless, high cpu consumption, and messed up the whole desktop |
| 09:49.38 | petemc | i like gdesklets |
| 09:50.16 | dli | petemc, it uses 20% of cpu constantly |
| 09:50.36 | CleriC | see you soon :) thx for help |
| 09:50.40 | petemc | dli: cant say i noticed that, how thorough was your testing? |
| 09:50.42 | CleriC | bye |
| 09:50.45 | CleriC | ;) |
| 09:51.21 | dli | petemc, and it made the bottom panel empty, I don't have a list of running programs, no clicking area for other desktops |
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| 09:51.58 | dli | petemc, and I wanted to get the wireless monitor, but it shows nothing about what I wanted to see |
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| 09:52.35 | dli | petemc: now, I have to restore my gnome desktop |
| 09:52.53 | saintiss | how can I delete a RAID array? just edit mdadm.conf? |
| 09:53.13 | petemc | dli: theres a better wireless monitor, a plug in for the gnome panel, done by rml |
| 09:53.20 | petemc | cant remember its name tho |
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| 09:53.23 | suzzi | howdy all |
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| 09:53.46 | suzzi | any one have a prefrence or any pointers to what IMAP server I should look to install? |
| 09:53.55 | dli | petemc: have to restore gnome first, difficult to run anything here |
| 09:54.29 | dli | suzzi: courrier-imapd |
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| 09:57.06 | IDC | I had to build 8139 ethernet support in kernel,it didn't work when i built it as Module,hmm |
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| 09:57.43 | IDC | oh,maybe i should have done modprobe |
| 09:58.11 | js_ | the module is called 8139too |
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| 10:00.04 | IDC | js_, yeah |
| 10:00.16 | drac | with cooperation of 8139cp. |
| 10:00.16 | IDC | js_, i wasn't sure if mine is 8139c+ or what |
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| 10:00.47 | IDC | but i just slected those 2 to add in kernel,now at boot i says its not a 8139c+,use 8139too driver instead,working fine |
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| 10:01.14 | IDC | next time recomile kernel will leave 8139c+ alone |
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| 10:01.36 | Maxal | Hello! |
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| 10:04.32 | fly_ | hi all |
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| 10:04.33 | fly_ | i'm in trouble with proftpd configuration....someone can help me ? |
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| 10:04.53 | IDC | its annoying,now at boot i always get this messange..read as |
| 10:05.15 | IDC | "/etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot is deprecated. Please configure your system to use the standard /etc/network/interfaces method." |
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| 10:05.52 | simonrvn | means set up an interface for ppp* |
| 10:06.05 | simonrvn | auto ppp0 |
| 10:06.16 | IDC | i do remember i fixed this problem by entering /etc/ic2.d/ ,there i rename S14ppp ,solved |
| 10:06.22 | simonrvn | etc. see man interfaces |
| 10:06.25 | IDC | now,i did the same,it doesn't work |
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| 10:06.39 | IDC | hi simonrvn |
| 10:06.43 | xoz | IDC: disable ppp from starting... at /etc/init.d/ |
| 10:06.45 | simonrvn | hello |
| 10:06.52 | IDC | I lost |
| 10:07.06 | IDC | i mean,even im seeing those message at boot,my ppp work fine |
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| 10:07.19 | nmbntz | wtf. |
| 10:07.21 | IDC | but i really want to get rid of those spamming message |
| 10:07.23 | simonrvn | read the manual, you won't be lost |
| 10:07.39 | nmbntz | ok. so i reboot mystery-problem-box, and as soon as GDM starts, bam. screens go blank. |
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| 10:08.05 | nmbntz | great. |
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| 10:08.13 | IDC | xoz, what do you mean ? |
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| 10:09.12 | IDC | i run rcconf,there ppp isn't in the list anymore right after i renamed S14ppp in /etc/rc2.d/ |
| 10:09.36 | IDC | but yeah,it auto connects to my isp at startup still which i like it |
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| 10:10.52 | priest | how do i portforward an hole range of ports with iptables DNAT? |
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| 10:11.40 | jm_ | priest: read http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/ |
| 10:11.59 | IDC | yeah in /etc/network/interfaces,there dsl is properly set to auto |
| 10:12.11 | IDC | so ,how do i disable the ppp in /etc/init.d/ ? |
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| 10:14.18 | SlayerXP | looks like the current nagios-text package has an issue with its internal check_https function |
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| 10:20.08 | zulkifar | Hi. I need to encode .wav file into IMA ADPCM to play it on a stupid mobile phone by Siemens. Is there a way to do that on Linux? Can I for example take windows's codec and use it somehow on Linux? |
| 10:20.27 | macbobby | hello. is there a folder for the kmenu or the controlline for KDE ? |
| 10:20.46 | Coke | zulkifar: this is not related to Debian in any way, I suggest you use google. |
| 10:20.48 | macbobby | if yes, could you tell me where i find this? |
| 10:21.08 | zulkifar | Hi. I need to encode .wav file into IMA ADPCM to play it on a stupid mobile phone by Siemens. Is there a way to do that on Debian Linux? Can I for example take windows's codec and use it somehow on Debain Linux? |
| 10:21.15 | zulkifar | Coke: read again :) |
| 10:21.16 | petemc | heh |
| 10:21.17 | jethro | !tell zulkifar -about repeat |
| 10:21.22 | nmbntz | rebooted yet again, *this* time, i got into X, and BAM. froze. |
| 10:21.23 | Coke | macbobby: have you tried google? |
| 10:21.30 | Coke | zulkifar: no, Debian does not contain any non-free codecs |
| 10:21.36 | macbobby | Coke: no, i did'nt |
| 10:21.37 | nmbntz | nothing's showing up in Xserver log... hrmmm. |
| 10:21.42 | macbobby | didn't |
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| 10:22.16 | PerfDave | zulkifar: There might be something in marillat. /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 10:23.12 | nmbntz | odd thing is, usually when x locks up on me, which is very very very rare, it takes the whole box with it, as if the kernel module has frozen up the systm, now, this is not the case. |
| 10:23.32 | nmbntz | guess i'll be heading to compoosa today for a new card to see if it's the problem. damnit. i neeeeed that box(!) |
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| 10:24.26 | technos | mnmbntz: Tell me about it. In the last seven days, I've had six different video cards in my machine. |
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| 10:25.30 | nmbntz | this was some cheap-assed $29 (after rebate, wchi i'm still waiting for) "Mad dog" nvidia GeForce-something or other, AGP, i like the card, twinview works (well, not recently it seems ;) like a charm |
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| 10:25.49 | v120 | ver graphique34 |
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| 10:26.16 | nmbntz | damnit all. |
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| 10:27.41 | neiljp | anyone know if it is possible to determine the cpu model, beyond what is in /proc/cpuinfo? eg. I have athlon64 3500+, and am interested to know whether it is winchester or the older one |
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| 10:28.05 | technos | mnmbntz: Eh. I've been through a FX5200, two 9600Pro, an ATI Rage and a Matrox G200. All because the original GF4TI decided to spontaneously not like any of its own ram. Oh, and finally a 9600XT today that finally works and is up to snuff. |
| 10:28.25 | technos | neiljp: The only way to determine that is to read the serial off the processor I think. |
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| 10:28.53 | neiljp | technos: cheers, but bugger ;( |
| 10:29.13 | neiljp | technos: don't exactly want to mess with taking the heatsink off and everything |
| 10:29.18 | sciboy | Heya, i was looking for a tool to split a wav file into 10 second chunks, anyone know of something i could use to do this automagically? |
| 10:29.28 | petemc | sciboy: audacity |
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| 10:30.40 | sciboy | petemc: I already had a look and couldn't find how, mind helping me a little more? =P |
| 10:30.51 | technos | neiljp: Technically the processor does make that available as part of the ID string.. I just don't happen to know any linux utilities to descramble that information for you. |
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| 10:31.24 | petemc | sciboy: i dont use it all that often, but i have split songs up with it - istr it being fairly straight forward |
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| 10:32.18 | neiljp | technos: any other os utilities? ;) |
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| 10:37.04 | markybob | trying to use postfix with saslauthd ...postfix says "cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory" however, ps aux shows that saslauthd is running fine. any suggestions? |
| 10:37.08 | nmbntz | technos, we'll talk later, i'd like to pick your brain a bit, |
| 10:37.26 | nmbntz | until then, i have to drive woman to doctor so they can cut off her foot ;) |
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| 10:41.32 | technos | neiljp: There are several stand alone utilities (boot discs) that will ID your CPU for you down to the ID flag you can google for the core name. |
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| 10:41.52 | A1do4ka | hi al |
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| 10:42.08 | A1do4ka | heeeeeeeeeeeu |
| 10:42.15 | A1do4ka | auuuuuuuuuu\ |
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| 10:43.59 | SlayerXP | I'm wildly assuming you have one, of course. |
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| 10:46.02 | nakee_ | how do I make alsa keep the last time I set the sound? |
| 10:46.08 | nakee_ | so I won't need to redo it on each boot |
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| 10:47.04 | sturkel | can someone help me with re setting up samba, now i have authentication problems |
| 10:47.33 | PenjejakNeraka | nacre; dpkg-reconfigure alsa |
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| 10:47.54 | A1do4ka | lool |
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| 10:48.16 | PenjejakNeraka | nacre; dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base |
| 10:48.28 | PenjejakNeraka | aiseh |
| 10:48.38 | PenjejakNeraka | nakee_; dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base |
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| 10:49.09 | zulkifar | Coke: several minutes ago I asked question about IMA ADPCM. You said Debain doesn't support non-free codecs. I would like to inform you that Debain does have a package called 'SOX'. Its a nice program (http://sox.sourceforge.net) which easily converts from/to ADPCM, IMA ADPCM and many many other formats. |
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| 10:50.17 | nakee_ | PenjejakNeraka thanks, but my problem is a bit different. I have a cluster of diskless computers I want to set it once for all of them |
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| 10:50.39 | nakee_ | PenjejakNeraka is there some file i need to create or so? |
| 10:51.00 | isam | I am looking for a mailing list that could notify me of updates/changes on sarge .. I found http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing-changes/ |
| 10:51.15 | Coke | zulkifar: so? what I said is true. that simply means that IMA ADPCM is not a non-free codec. |
| 10:51.19 | isam | but it seems to be unused .. is there another way to know about updates in sarge ? |
| 10:51.20 | IDC | I don't know why but by deault there are 2 modules loaded automatically which related to iptables,any idea ? one is ipt_TCPMSS,another is ipt_tcpmss |
| 10:51.33 | IDC | i haven't configured iptables yet |
| 10:51.41 | PenjejakNeraka | nakee_; sorry, not sure about that |
| 10:51.53 | IDC | then,i do 'iptables -L',in the forward part,there has a chain,strange,when did i set it up there ? |
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| 10:52.36 | nakee_ | PenjejakNeraka if I set it in the dpkg-reconfigure does it work when non root sets it? |
| 10:52.42 | ZEA | when will there be a x86_64 (amd64) port of debian? I don't get how come there's already ia64 available when amd64 has been around for a longer time |
| 10:52.50 | technos | zulkifar: ADPCM is an antique.. Yeah, sox will do it. |
| 10:52.54 | PenjejakNeraka | nakee_; sure it is |
| 10:53.02 | nakee_ | PenjejakNeraka ok thanks:) |
| 10:53.07 | Gathond | ZEA: it have not, ia64 is the itanium |
| 10:53.21 | directhex|work | ZEA, erm, ia64 has been around since the mid 1990s, amd64 is less than 2 years old |
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| 10:53.32 | Gathond | ZEA: not intels EMT64 or whatever they call their x86_64 clone |
| 10:53.34 | ZEA | directhex|work: I know, but can you buy one? |
| 10:53.37 | PerfDave | ZEA: There is a semi-official amd64 port of Debian, and it will become official with Etch. /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 10:53.47 | Gathond | ZEA: sure you can |
| 10:53.48 | directhex|work | ZEA, yeah, HP still sell itanium. and SGI |
| 10:53.55 | zulkifar | Coke: ok. Just don't tell ppl gooling if they ask about 'antique' (according to technos ;) IMA ADPCM. Debian does have a solution :) |
| 10:54.08 | Gathond | ZEA: probably not as easily as you could uy one a year or two ago though |
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| 10:54.46 | ZEA | I guess that answers my question ;) |
| 10:54.59 | directhex|work | ZEA, itanium never was & never will be a consumer chip, unlike amd64/em64t |
| 10:55.12 | ZEA | directhex|work: exactly my point of view |
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| 10:55.21 | IDC | does anyone know what does "ipt_tcpmss " stand for ? |
| 10:55.31 | directhex|work | ZEA, debian never was & never will be a consumer distribution though ;) |
| 10:55.36 | IDC | now i have 2 of them loaded in kernel |
| 10:55.38 | zulkifar | technos: I didn't checked it yet - but resulting file (ima adpcm) I going to play on a non-antique Siemens M65 :) In 21th century it still can't mp3s |
| 10:55.44 | Gathond | ZEA: but what does that have to do with wether debian should never have supported it? |
| 10:55.45 | ZEA | directhex|work: but is intel planning on staying behind in what comes to amd64? |
| 10:55.53 | sturkel | can someone help me with re setting up samba, i have authentication problems after reinstall |
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| 10:55.56 | zulkifar | s/can't/can't play |
| 10:55.57 | ZEA | oh em64... |
| 10:56.19 | A1do4ka | :( |
| 10:56.37 | jm_ | IDC: yes, many people do |
| 10:56.41 | ZEA | I really need to read more :x |
| 10:56.47 | directhex|work | ZEA, em64t is a 99.9% compatible clone of amd64 |
| 10:56.58 | ZEA | directhex|work: and still, it is the best distro available, I think |
| 10:57.24 | IDC | jm_, but i do remember when i was using kernel 2.4x, after i add iptables support by default i dont have this thing auto loaded |
| 10:57.38 | IDC | jm_, also,at that time i do 'iptables -L',its clean |
| 10:58.03 | IDC | for right now, there is a rule in the 'forward' part by default |
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| 10:58.20 | ZEA | directhex|work: yeah, it's good to see that amd is taking the lead. and I read some of the kernel ml where it seems intel was too proud too just say it (about it being a "clone" of amd64) |
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| 10:59.01 | directhex|work | ZEA, of course. the real issue isn't about chips, it's about compilers |
| 10:59.20 | jm_ | IDC: the module is available in 2.4.28 as well |
| 10:59.32 | scorpix | is there somthing like deltarpm for .deb packages? |
| 10:59.40 | IDC | jm_, so hmm i should leave it alone ? |
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| 11:00.04 | IDC | I am running 2.6.11.8 |
| 11:00.13 | jm_ | IDC: well it's nothing to worry about - but I suppose you could find out what loads the module and prevent it from doing so, or remove the module if you can't find any other way |
| 11:00.30 | A1do4ka | bye allllllllllllll |
| 11:00.38 | jm_ | IDC: but don't remove it if it's from a kernel-image, just to avoid possible problems |
| 11:01.03 | IDC | jm_, it's not there if i didn't add iptables support to kernel |
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| 11:04.04 | GlebeGuy | Hello |
| 11:04.11 | GlebeGuy | Is anyone here? |
| 11:04.20 | isam | yes |
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| 11:04.45 | GlebeGuy | The text is so tiny... how do i enlarge? |
| 11:05.15 | xk | "MGA DRI driver expected DDX driver version 1.0.x but got version 4.1.0" - hrm... so how to solve this problem? |
| 11:05.21 | GlebeGuy | its cool, Ive done it |
| 11:05.49 | chealer | xk: are you using woody? |
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| 11:06.08 | xk | chealer: no, sarge. it was working 1+ months ago. no idea what changed. |
| 11:06.14 | xk | chealer: google reveals nothing :/ |
| 11:06.23 | GlebeGuy | I'm using Knoppix.... I'm a Linux virgin... |
| 11:06.31 | xk | but the error comes from libxmesa. |
| 11:06.43 | directhex|work | yeah, but knoppix is like doing it with your hand |
| 11:06.48 | PerfDave | GlebeGuy: You probably want #knoppix, unless you're planning on installing Debian. |
| 11:07.00 | xk | (II) Truncating PCI BIOS Length to 32768 |
| 11:07.02 | xk | (WW) MGA(0): Video BIOS info block not detected! |
| 11:07.04 | xk | get that aswell. |
| 11:07.21 | xk | one thing I did change is pci latency |
| 11:07.26 | GlebeGuy | I've been forced to use Linux (Knoppix) ... b/c my puter & WinXPP is stuffed |
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| 11:07.51 | PerfDave | GlebeGuy: If you want help with using Knoppix, ask in #knoppix. Knoppix is not Debian. |
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| 11:08.10 | ZEA | directhex|work: when will intel start selling em64t cpus? |
| 11:08.12 | GlebeGuy | PerfDave, OK cool, no worries. Thanks |
| 11:08.20 | directhex|work | ZEA, they have for some time, if you like xeons |
| 11:08.48 | GlebeGuy | PerfDave, I actually didn't come for help... I just found a chat facility in Knoppix & I'm using it just to learn |
| 11:08.50 | directhex|work | ZEA, or the 6xx pentium 4's |
| 11:08.54 | PerfDave | GlebeGuy: Fair enough |
| 11:09.06 | Trevelyan[dex] | Hello, whats wrong with the uk mirror? (ftp.uk.debian.org) ? |
| 11:09.16 | GlebeGuy | PerfDave: where in the world r u? |
| 11:09.28 | directhex|work | ZEA, http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=307537&cks=PRL - theye you go, em64t pentium 4 |
| 11:09.45 | Trevelyan[dex] | or what can i find info about the uk mirror status ? |
| 11:09.46 | directhex|work | GlebeGuy, avoid using unneccessary abbreviations like "r" and "u", it's immensely irritating to read |
| 11:09.47 | ZEA | directhex|work: but for the consumer? |
| 11:10.07 | PerfDave | GlebeGuy: I'm in Oxford, UK. |
| 11:10.11 | Trevelyan[dex] | I get "111 Connection refused" |
| 11:10.20 | directhex|work | ZEA, see above link |
| 11:10.35 | GlebeGuy | Directhex, OK. I always thought those abbreveiations were the norm in Chat |
| 11:10.46 | ZEA | directhex|work: thanks :) |
| 11:11.01 | GlebeGuy | PerfDave: Oxford? Cool!!! I'm in Australia. |
| 11:11.05 | PerfDave | GlebeGuy: Not really. They're the norm in AOL chatrooms, but if you've got a lot of conversation to read, it's easier if everybody uses full words and punctuation. |
| 11:11.53 | xk | is DDX x.org specific? |
| 11:12.02 | GlebeGuy | PerfDave: Oh, OK. I sort of got the feeling that I was beiing reprimanded by an "Oxford Grammarian"!!! |
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| 11:12.34 | PerfDave | GlebeGuy: Well, directhex is also in Oxford ;) |
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| 11:13.00 | directhex|work | i'm a grammarologist |
| 11:13.09 | directhex|work | PerfDave's more of a grammar wrangler |
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| 11:13.23 | GlebeGuy | PerfDave: well, with his choice of words (ie "immensely irritating") I kinda, oh sorry, kind of guessed he was! |
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| 11:14.09 | xk | why the fuck does debian sarge have DDX support when x.org isn't in debian? |
| 11:14.14 | etrius | can someone help me with ddns/rndc? rndc status complains |
| 11:14.29 | suifur | xk: because it fucking can |
| 11:14.31 | GlebeGuy | Perf; direct: I'm a grammar bender, being a techinical writer. If bending grammar promotes clarity, I will make that sacrifice. |
| 11:14.39 | suifur | !fuck DDX support |
| 11:14.46 | PerfDave | xk: Sarge's xfree86 has an awful lot of stuff backported from xorg. |
| 11:14.46 | xk | suifur: heh |
| 11:14.53 | xk | so what's the point when it breaks my setup? |
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| 11:15.09 | xk | I'm using xf4.3.0 and drm fails because it wants ddx support |
| 11:15.13 | suifur | xk: once again, sarge broke your setup because it fucking can |
| 11:15.19 | xk | or rather... it wants ddx support but none is available. |
| 11:15.27 | nakee_ | DDX is also in xfree 4.3 AFAIK |
| 11:15.31 | PerfDave | xk: Maybe it works for other people, or maybe you're doing something wrong :) |
| 11:15.31 | nakee_ | or am I missing something? |
| 11:15.46 | xk | nakee_: so what am I doing wrong when it worked a month ago? |
| 11:15.47 | nakee_ | DDX is the name of the arcitecture |
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| 11:15.49 | Erpo | Hello all. Does debian provide an easy way to get packages with debugging symbols compiled in? |
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| 11:16.03 | xk | er, perfdave |
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| 11:16.11 | PerfDave | xk: No idea. Maybe it just hates you ;) |
| 11:16.18 | xk | PerfDave: that's helpful. |
| 11:16.24 | directhex|work | DRI works just fine here |
| 11:16.31 | xk | any other women reasons? |
| 11:16.35 | PerfDave | xk: *shrug* I'm not all-knowing. |
| 11:16.38 | PerfDave | "women reasons"? |
| 11:16.45 | GlebeGuy | Guys, can anyone tell me how I can reformat my two hard drives? I've had WinXPP on them, but my puter won't boot and/or launch me into a WinXPP environment. |
| 11:16.45 | nakee_ | xk what exactly doesn't work? |
| 11:16.55 | xk | nakee_: hardware rendering. |
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| 11:17.09 | directhex|work | GlebeGuy, reformat them how? you format partitions. |
| 11:17.12 | xk | glxgears either gives me blank window, or is slow as hell (200fps) and lags big time. |
| 11:17.28 | xk | glxinfo says dri is disabled. |
| 11:17.44 | xk | debug info reveals ddx version is incorrect |
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| 11:17.55 | xk | MGA DRI driver expected DDX driver version 1.0.x but got version 4.1.0 |
| 11:17.56 | directhex|work | GlebeGuy, "fdisk -l" will show you the partitions on a system, mkfs.vfat /dev/whatever will format a prtition as FAT32 |
| 11:18.19 | nakee_ | xk maybe you should update the dri drivers? |
| 11:18.20 | PerfDave | GlebeGuy: Or you can use qtparted to edit partitions and format them with a nicer interface. |
| 11:18.28 | directhex|work | also a good plan. |
| 11:18.30 | xk | nakee_: that's an idea :) |
| 11:18.38 | unco | anyone able to tell me how patch works with .diff? i'm just unsure what exactly something like @@ -190,7 +193,7 @@ means? |
| 11:18.42 | directhex|work | xk, where did your dri driver come from, exactly? |
| 11:18.53 | nakee_ | 1.0.x!?!??! |
| 11:18.56 | caphuso | unco: line numbers and hunk size |
| 11:18.57 | xk | directhex|work: from debian. |
| 11:19.40 | xk | it's weird that it somehow broke. but I'll upgrade X |
| 11:19.46 | unco | caphuso: can I privmsg you something? just trying to work out how this patch works (or should work) |
| 11:19.59 | caphuso | unco: #flood, or /msg dpkg paster |
| 11:20.25 | xk | although, I had a long standing problem that was solved by upgrading ;o |
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| 11:20.49 | directhex|work | "m-a a-i mga-vid"? |
| 11:21.10 | xk | m-a a-i? |
| 11:21.26 | unco | caphuso: thats the item, i'm just unsure of what's being removed and added? |
| 11:21.33 | directhex|work | !m-a |
| 11:21.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 11:22.01 | directhex|work | i'm guessing, but the fact that there's an mga kernel module available for building makes me think it could help |
| 11:22.08 | etrius | rndc: connection to remote host closed |
| 11:22.08 | etrius | This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of |
| 11:22.08 | etrius | the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, |
| 11:22.08 | etrius | or the key is invalid. |
| 11:22.08 | etrius | what the hell is going on |
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| 11:22.09 | xk | mga_vid is a hack |
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| 11:22.40 | unco | caphuso: also - that fails at 195 |
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| 11:22.57 | Penix | I'm starting to think it's m-a whore day and I wasn't notified |
| 11:23.10 | caphuso | unco: that's just some whitespace changes. try 'cat -A file.diff' |
| 11:23.20 | Penix | everytime I look at irssi someone's mentioned module-assistant |
| 11:23.23 | mentor | Penix: consider yourself notified. |
| 11:23.27 | etrius | l |
| 11:23.32 | directhex|work | Penix, it cures cancer. |
| 11:23.33 | Penix | yay. I'm in the loop! |
| 11:24.04 | unco | caphuso:w hat exactly am I looking for? |
| 11:24.35 | caphuso | unco: trailing whitespace in either the removed or the added line in the second hunk, for example |
| 11:24.57 | caphuso | the first one simply removes an empty line |
| 11:25.18 | caphuso | or a line with only whitespace characters in it, kinda hard to tell the difference :) |
| 11:26.31 | caphuso | unco: you can try applying it with "patch -l" |
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| 11:29.56 | ^rob^ | hi |
| 11:30.18 | unco | I can't even find any whitespaces |
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| 11:30.30 | unco | well - there was but i deleted some |
| 11:30.35 | ^rob^ | is there a sarge rescue disk - 2.6 kern - i have problems with my sata.. and the DVD i got it with jigdo does not boot - weird - vmware boot from it |
| 11:30.38 | unco | and still same error |
| 11:30.45 | caphuso | unco: what error? |
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| 11:31.06 | unco | Hunk #3 FAILED at 195. (there is alot of other stuff in the .diff |
| 11:31.07 | unco | ) |
| 11:31.09 | Penix | root_: you zoof |
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| 11:31.24 | bodq | hello! |
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| 11:31.32 | caphuso | unco: what's in the .rej file? |
| 11:31.38 | Penix | !tell root_ about root |
| 11:31.44 | bodq | I want a "cp" that would indicate a progress and show the ETA. No, thanks, it's not MC :) |
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| 11:32.23 | unco | see #flood caphuso |
| 11:32.30 | jm_ | bodq: use scp |
| 11:32.30 | ^rob^ | !tell about rescuedisk |
| 11:32.40 | ^rob^ | grr |
| 11:32.46 | Tyras | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.49 | ^rob^ | !tell about rescue |
| 11:32.51 | Tyras | Its currently at 600x480, but I cant even see the buttons in the popup screens |
| 11:32.58 | Tyras | how do I set it to 800x600? |
| 11:33.03 | xk | Tyrant: using gnome? |
| 11:33.06 | ^rob^ | !tell about sata |
| 11:33.07 | xk | tyras |
| 11:33.11 | xk | i love bitchx. |
| 11:33.12 | Tyras | ehm dunno xdm or zo? |
| 11:33.15 | ^rob^ | :( |
| 11:33.16 | bodq | jm_: it's local. when local, scp acts just like cp |
| 11:33.19 | directhex|work | !drxx Tyras |
| 11:33.20 | dpkg | Tyras: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 11:33.20 | Tyras | KDE |
| 11:33.28 | caphuso | unco: can you "cat -A" the .rej file and paste the part from the two lines starting with - and +? |
| 11:33.35 | directhex|work | Tyras, you can add options for resolutions via the above command |
| 11:33.38 | saintiss | with raid (mdadm), how does one know which disk syncs with which? is this based on e.g. the order the devices were added during RAID create? |
| 11:33.39 | xk | well... if it was gnome, you'd need to go to the control centre and change resolution there. that's why I was asking. |
| 11:34.07 | jm_ | bodq: ahh, tough luck then - the only other things I can come up with is tar | some kind of pipe meter | tar |
| 11:34.21 | unco | caphuso: - $ or + $ |
| 11:34.27 | Tyras | so I just have to type "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" in the home dir as root, and then? |
| 11:34.34 | caphuso | bodq: dd and "kill -USR1" |
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| 11:34.43 | jm_ | yeah dd can also report progress |
| 11:34.48 | bodq | jm_: even more, scp would abort only one file on ^c, and gladly continue to copy the rest :) |
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| 11:35.18 | xk | Tyras: as root is sufficient. and restart X. |
| 11:35.26 | Tyras | (XM: )So what is the difference between KDE Gnome XDM and X? |
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| 11:35.42 | bodq | caphuso: well, dd -R ? :) |
| 11:35.42 | caphuso | unco: alright. you can safely ignore it |
| 11:36.00 | unco | caphuso: how do I get around it? |
| 11:36.00 | xk | dd takes -R? |
| 11:36.03 | caphuso | bodq: you have to wrap it inside some shell clue |
| 11:36.03 | bodq | caphuso: it won't come handy for many files :( |
| 11:36.13 | Tyras | All those names are confusing for beginners :p |
| 11:36.13 | directhex|work | Tyras, kde and gnome are desktop environments. xdm is a graphical login manager. x is a protocol for drawing things on the screen |
| 11:36.24 | directhex|work | !x |
| 11:36.24 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 11:36.27 | xk | brb |
| 11:36.30 | directhex|work | nope, that's unrelated |
| 11:36.34 | chrysopa | Hi, I have netatalk installed on Debian, but Mac show the home directory, but dont mount it. Look my AppleVolumes.default: ~/ "Home Directory", what is the problem? |
| 11:36.34 | PerfDave | Tyras: xfree86 is the windowing system. It handles network stuff and drawing boxes. KDE and Gnome are desktops, they run on top of X and provide prettiness. xdm is a login manager, it also runs on top of X, handles people's usernames and passwords and logs them into KDE or Gnome (or something else) |
| 11:36.43 | Tyras | Thanks Guys! |
| 11:36.53 | chrysopa | Anybody can help-me? |
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| 11:37.22 | chrysopa | Sometime ago it work, by now it dont work anymore. |
| 11:37.31 | caphuso | unco: that particular part of the patch doesn't do anything important, it only removes a single space character. you can remote if from the .diff file, or maybe play with patch's --fuzz option |
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| 11:37.33 | chrysopa | I dont change anything |
| 11:37.33 | bodq | I'd stick up with: watch "du -sh $DST ;" echo `du -sh $SRC` |
| 11:37.40 | xk | well... atleast X doesn't slow down... but still same prob. |
| 11:38.27 | Tyras | Can KDE or Gnome work without X? |
| 11:38.28 | unco | caphuso: so get rid of the - and + lines from .diff? |
| 11:39.06 | xk | how can direct rendering be enabled but only show a black window? |
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| 11:39.07 | caphuso | unco: you need to get rid of the whole hunk, that is, starting from the @@ line |
| 11:39.07 | directhex|work | Tyras, no. |
| 11:39.16 | bodq | that's actually a clever trick :) hehe, cool. thank guys! |
| 11:39.23 | unco | caphuso: the whole hunk does nothing? |
| 11:39.25 | directhex|work | Tyras, without an x server, they have nothing to draw onto |
| 11:39.37 | caphuso | unco: AFAICT it removes a single space character |
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| 11:40.42 | unco | ahhh heh cheers |
| 11:40.43 | unco | :) |
| 11:40.58 | Tyras | Once I started Gnome, while in KDE, I so I saw Gnome in front of KDE (very confusing, if you havent seen linux before) but that can happen because they both draw upon X, is that right? |
| 11:41.05 | xk | sigh |
| 11:42.01 | directhex|work | Tyras, you can run gnome-panel and all that jazz from inside kde, yes |
| 11:42.24 | xk | hopeless. |
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| 11:42.56 | Tyras | dont loose faith xk ;) |
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| 11:44.20 | xk | hm |
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| 11:46.04 | Tyras | well, how can I obtain a IPadres while using DHCP? (this doesnt concern KDE or x, right?) |
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| 11:46.23 | bob2 | you ask the dhcp server for one |
| 11:46.29 | bob2 | dhclient is one way |
| 11:46.30 | ^rob^ | q: can i make grub to boot from cd? - my new cd is not bootable - donno why! |
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| 11:46.41 | bob2 | no, burn the cd properly |
| 11:46.47 | ^rob^ | bob2: i did |
| 11:46.47 | Tyras | and how do I start the DHclient? |
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| 11:47.02 | ^rob^ | bob2: I burn it wiht k3m |
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| 11:47.05 | ^rob^ | dvd |
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| 11:47.16 | ^rob^ | md5 sums was ok |
| 11:47.19 | ordimini666 | hi, I'm needing help about howto use a Secure digital card reader ? |
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| 11:48.17 | Tyras | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.17 | ^rob^ | ordimini666: try mounting /dev/sda1 or whatever the kernel has named your device - sdX |
| 11:48.17 | dpkg | Tyras: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
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| 11:48.33 | xk | I'm puzzled as to what is wrong |
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| 11:49.50 | ordimini666 | ^rob^, and if there is no /dev/sdXXX ? maybe I have to recompile my kernel |
| 11:50.08 | directhex|work | ordimini666, are you using a hand-made kernel? |
| 11:50.18 | ordimini666 | yes directhex|work |
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| 11:50.24 | directhex|work | !wayc ordimini666 |
| 11:50.24 | dpkg | ordimini666: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 11:50.59 | ordimini666 | dpkg, the one I get from apt-get have no bootsplash and other stuff like this that I added |
| 11:51.06 | ZEA | where do I get the x86-64 kernels? |
| 11:51.13 | ordimini666 | and the suport for my processor is bad with that on .. |
| 11:51.28 | directhex|work | ZEA, x86-64 kernels are standard in sarge. apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 11:51.33 | ZEA | thanks |
| 11:51.42 | directhex|work | or "apt-cache search kernel-image k8", more usefully |
| 11:52.04 | Tyras | directhex | you are the master Jo ;) greetings |
| 11:52.21 | xk | hrm |
| 11:52.25 | ^rob^ | ordimini666: do you have hotplug installed? |
| 11:52.49 | ordimini666 | ^rob^, i think so ;) |
| 11:53.03 | ordimini666 | yes it is ;) |
| 11:53.15 | ^rob^ | ordimini666: then you must make your kernel support usb devices |
| 11:53.28 | ZEA | directhex|work: but what's the official web site for these kernels? |
| 11:53.37 | ^rob^ | what's the kern log when you plug sdcard in? |
| 11:53.38 | directhex|work | ZEA, debian.org |
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| 11:53.54 | ^rob^ | does he give a device to it or it is unknown |
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| 11:54.52 | directhex|work | ZEA, http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/kernel-image-2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 |
| 11:54.53 | xk | hrmm |
| 11:55.02 | xk | I have no idea how to solve this problem |
| 11:55.12 | ordimini666 | ^rob^, usb is supported since I use many usb device like TV card or even my mouse |
| 11:55.12 | ^rob^ | is there a debian sarge rescue disk? |
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| 11:55.21 | ZEA | directhex|work: I don't mean the packages, the kernel amd64 source, who develops it and what is the site? |
| 11:55.52 | directhex|work | ZEA, erm, kernel.org. same source as all other arches |
| 11:56.19 | ^rob^ | ordimini666: then all you have to do is -= unplug your device - look at logs and plug it back - you'll see the device that kernel has alocated to your dev (also keep your sdmemory in your card!!!) |
| 11:56.21 | ordimini666 | my car reader isn't usb it's inside my computer (laptop) |
| 11:56.29 | ZEA | directhex|work: I searched in the ports dir, it's not there :\ also www.x86-64.org doesn't show any kernel patch download |
| 11:56.38 | xk | glxgears works now... but 224fps |
| 11:56.46 | ^rob^ | oh |
| 11:57.07 | ^rob^ | dmesg |less - see if your kern has detect it - |
| 11:57.08 | MobyTurbo | ZEA: "ports dir"? Are you on crack? |
| 11:57.28 | Penix | probably d.o/ports |
| 11:57.44 | ^rob^ | MobyTurbo: maybe he migrate from FreeBSD |
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| 11:57.56 | MobyTurbo | ^rob^: or gentoo |
| 11:58.00 | ^rob^ | or |
| 11:58.05 | Penix | or any bsd or anything with pksrc |
| 11:58.09 | Penix | pkgsrc rather |
| 11:58.40 | directhex|work | ZEA, kernel patch? what? there are 23 architectures supported by the pristine kernel.org linux kernel sources. x86-64 is one of them |
| 11:58.49 | ^rob^ | i need a sarge 2.6 kern rescue disk |
| 11:59.17 | ^rob^ | or netinstall something |
| 11:59.24 | MobyTurbo | ^rob^: the 2.6 kernel is too big to fit on one floppy |
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| 11:59.41 | ^rob^ | cd |
| 11:59.48 | directhex|work | boot the installer, go to a terminal, and chroot |
| 12:00.03 | ^rob^ | i remember there was a 30Mb cd iso - for sarge? |
| 12:00.07 | ^rob^ | or just woody |
| 12:00.17 | hancis | ^rob^: liveCD .. like knoppix |
| 12:00.42 | MobyTurbo | !d-i |
| 12:00.43 | dpkg | it has been said that d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 12:00.53 | xk | bleh. google is useless. |
| 12:01.18 | ^rob^ | yep |
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| 12:01.37 | IDC | anyone have a cs46xx sound card ? |
| 12:01.46 | directhex|work | google love you long time |
| 12:01.49 | directhex|work | lunchtime \o/ |
| 12:02.01 | xk | IDC: that's a sound blaster (16/pro?) card? |
| 12:02.08 | IDC | no |
| 12:02.15 | Penix | google offers lunchtime intercourse now? |
| 12:02.21 | Penix | that's a beta program I want in on |
| 12:02.47 | Rydekull | haha |
| 12:02.47 | ^rob^ | HUAAA - I own a beer to the one who manipulate dpkg! - TY |
| 12:02.47 | IDC | xk, The main DSP chipset is based on Cirrus Logic Crystal CS4624 is what i have |
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| 12:03.07 | xk | hm... I did upgrade the bios to some beta version. that may have been when it fucked up |
| 12:03.16 | oskie | i have a USB Mass Storage digital camera, is usb-storage the only way to go? or is there any other module? |
| 12:03.23 | IDC | The full name of the card is "Hercules Gamesurround Fortissimo II" |
| 12:03.47 | IDC | xk, huh ? |
| 12:03.51 | ^rob^ | oskie: yes it is |
| 12:03.58 | xk | IDC: talking to myself since no one can help, heh. |
| 12:04.07 | IDC | oh |
| 12:04.22 | IDC | xk, sorry im very newbie cant help on linux |
| 12:04.46 | oskie | because when I've read 100-500MB from the camera using usb-storage, IO just stops and I have to remove the module and load it again |
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| 12:05.05 | ZEA | MobyTurbo: pub/linux/kernel/ports in kernel.org |
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| 12:05.38 | xk | MGA DRI driver expected DDX driver version 1.0.x but got version 4.1.0 |
| 12:05.42 | xk | that stuff still happens. |
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| 12:05.46 | ^rob^ | oskie: does do that with other devices too? |
| 12:05.58 | ^rob^ | oskie: maybe it is hardware problem |
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| 12:06.42 | ^rob^ | oskie: try on another pc or another os - maybe your usb device is the guilty of that |
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| 12:15.32 | ordimini666 | does anybody can help me on using/ installing my built-in Card Reader ? |
| 12:15.46 | PerfDave | ordimini666: What's it built in to? |
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| 12:16.39 | ordimini666 | PerfDave, I didn't get what you mean ? |
| 12:16.48 | Frafra | can i mount an extended hfs image? |
| 12:17.00 | smhar | how do I close the dhcp and specify my ip statically for my small home network |
| 12:17.19 | TinoW | smhar: "close"? |
| 12:17.25 | petemc | smhar: man 5 interfaces |
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| 12:17.27 | PerfDave | ordimini666: How is your card reader connected to your computer? |
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| 12:17.41 | ordimini666 | PerfDave, I have a laptop it's inside it .. |
| 12:17.52 | PerfDave | ordimini666: Fair enough. What are you trying to do with it? |
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| 12:18.01 | PerfDave | ordimini666: First up, which version of Debian are you running? |
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| 12:18.31 | xoz | smhar: edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 12:18.46 | carnage | hey how do you use mount to mount an image file instead of a 'block device'? |
| 12:18.53 | ordimini666 | PerfDave, Sarge with a home compiled kernel 2.6.8 |
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| 12:19.02 | caphuso | carnage: mount -o loop file /some/where |
| 12:19.09 | Lovecraft | mount -o loop file mountpoint/ |
| 12:19.17 | PerfDave | ordimini666: What makes you think that your card reader isn't working already? |
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| 12:19.39 | _sadrack_ | where can I take informations about apache+java. |
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| 12:20.02 | Frafra | caphuso: it say that i must specify the fs |
| 12:20.04 | smhar | TinoW, close ==turn off |
| 12:20.11 | ordimini666 | PerfDave, maybe it is, but I can't find where is located my /dev corresponding to my SD :S |
| 12:20.13 | coll | im doing apt-get install sim and i tried with licq also but i get nothing. im assuming that its because the package is probably called otherwise, or am i doing something wrong? |
| 12:20.17 | PerfDave | ordimini666: Check dmesg? |
| 12:20.53 | caphuso | Frafra: what filesystem type is inside that image file? |
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| 12:21.18 | cadu_ | hello , what`s the command to reconfigure keymap on console? |
| 12:21.21 | Frafra | caphuso: hfs extended |
| 12:21.35 | tarzeau | cadu_: loadkeys |
| 12:21.46 | ordimini666 | PerfDave, dmesg only talks about my /dev/hdc :S and say there are many error on it |
| 12:21.55 | cadu_ | dpkg-reconfigure xxx ? |
| 12:22.00 | caphuso | Frafra: is it listed in /proc/filesystems? |
| 12:22.10 | cadu_ | tarzeau: where are the keymaps please ? tia |
| 12:22.15 | IDC | is this normal ?i run df says - /dev/hda3 9614148 768208 8357564 9% / |
| 12:22.22 | _sadrack_ | I'm trying to make up jakarta and jboss but it doesn't work. Somebody can help me? |
| 12:22.25 | tarzeau | cadu_: somewhere on / |
| 12:22.29 | IDC | i only have wmaker |
| 12:22.31 | Frafra | caphuso: in /proc/filesystems i can see hfs |
| 12:22.35 | cadu_ | tarzeau: thankx :P |
| 12:22.38 | cadu_ | hahaha |
| 12:22.39 | tarzeau | cadu_: dpkg -L *hint* |
| 12:22.42 | caphuso | Frafra: try -t hps |
| 12:22.48 | IDC | i mean why it takes so many disk space ? |
| 12:22.51 | TinoW | _sadrack_: maybe it does not work? |
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| 12:22.57 | caphuso | cadu_: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 12:23.20 | PerfDave | ordimini666: If you type in "lsusb" at a command line, does your card reader device appear? |
| 12:23.29 | _sadrack_ | TinoW, I've never hand with it. I need some help |
| 12:23.35 | Frafra | caphuso: hps? |
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| 12:23.42 | Frafra | mount: unknown filesystem type 'hps' |
| 12:23.42 | cadu_ | isn`t easier to say "console-data" ? :P |
| 12:23.44 | caphuso | Frafra: hfs, sorry |
| 12:23.47 | cadu_ | you guys like to complicate ahahah |
| 12:23.47 | Frafra | ah, ok |
| 12:23.54 | ordimini666 | nop PerfDave only talks about my mouse .. |
| 12:24.01 | Frafra | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2, |
| 12:24.02 | Frafra | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.02 | Frafra | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.02 | Frafra | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:24.03 | TinoW | _sadrack_: do you want to give somebody a login to your box to help or how do you think we should proceed? ;) |
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| 12:24.40 | Gathond | IDC: what makes you think 768 MB is alot ? |
| 12:24.50 | Frafra | excuse me |
| 12:25.23 | _sadrack_ | I can't give a login, but if I now a site or something like this please give me. I have to make a java site with all that you think. |
| 12:25.25 | IDC | Gathond, windows2000 takes 1GIG or so ,i thought linux would take much much less disk space |
| 12:25.35 | smhar | xoz, commented out the 2 lines for the auto and dhcp and added other lines for the static ip and the netmask as per the man file.. but when I issue ifdown eth0 it gives error |
| 12:25.35 | PerfDave | ordimini666: Hmm, that's annoying. The card readers I'm familiar with are internally connected on the USB :/ |
| 12:25.43 | caphuso | Frafra: instead of pasting useless crap, do what the error message tells you to do |
| 12:25.53 | Frafra | caphuso: ok, excuse me |
| 12:25.59 | Gathond | IDC: that linux install probably includes alot more than just one browser and one desktop thingy |
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| 12:26.08 | Frafra | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2, [etc.] |
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| 12:26.16 | IDC | Gathond, i did a basic install,then X system,upgraded to sarge,then recompiled kernel ,strange, it still takes near 800MB |
| 12:26.21 | ordimini666 | apparently mine isn't :D I'll try to find on google but I don't find any clue ... |
| 12:26.26 | Frafra | dmesg: VFS: Can't find a HFS filesystem on dev loop2. |
| 12:26.34 | _sadrack_ | I read about jboss and jakarta, these last doesn't work and the jboss I need help to install |
| 12:26.40 | caphuso | Frafra: then you probably can't mount extended hfs filesystems in linux |
| 12:26.44 | IDC | Gathond, no,i install almost every single stuff by myself |
| 12:26.50 | Gathond | IDC: I think that is pretty normal yes, especially if that includes the kernel source |
| 12:27.02 | Frafra | caphuso: i must install something? |
| 12:27.11 | IDC | Gathond, i did a 'basic install'no sound,no USB ,no X, no dselect...blah blah |
| 12:27.16 | caphuso | Frafra: don't know. never dealt with hfs filesystems |
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| 12:27.24 | Frafra | ok, thanks |
| 12:27.32 | Chameleon22 | whats the difference between iptables -t filter -F and iptables -t filter -X ? |
| 12:27.33 | IDC | Gathond, oh should be,i forgot that part |
| 12:27.34 | caphuso | IDC: check how much space your kernel source tree takes |
| 12:27.36 | PerfDave | ordimini666: My suggestion would be to look for "/dev/sd" in /var/log with grep |
| 12:27.48 | Penix | 800mb for an operating system with a graphical interface? what an outrage. that sort of size will only be acceptable when disk space is affordable and sold by the gigabyte |
| 12:27.50 | IDC | ok |
| 12:28.08 | Gathond | IDC: without X I would have believed it would use less, but then again not sure it is in any way unusual |
| 12:28.17 | smhar | and now I have ' couldn't read interface file /etc/network/interfaces' |
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| 12:28.35 | IDC | how do i check size including all files in a folder ? ls -s doesnt work |
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| 12:28.48 | SlayerXP | idc: du |
| 12:28.56 | TinoW | _sadrack_: its hard to help you if you dont tell what you want and what does not work and how it appears not working to you |
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| 12:29.07 | IDC | SlayerXP, no,for a folder |
| 12:29.12 | SlayerXP | idc: yes, du |
| 12:29.17 | TinoW | _sadrack_: and if you dont know java, you probably dont need this anyway ;) |
| 12:29.25 | _sadrack_ | TinoW, ok, the question is ... |
| 12:29.51 | IDC | 287584 linux-2.6.11.8 |
| 12:29.56 | IDC | 280MB or so ? |
| 12:30.09 | SlayerXP | idc: "man du" and look at what 'h' does. |
| 12:30.18 | _sadrack_ | TinoW, I have a apache work with a little site, and I have configured Virtual Hosts ... |
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| 12:30.34 | TinoW | _sadrack_: this does not looks like a question ;) |
| 12:30.37 | IDC | ok...now..please tell me can i just remove the kernel source folder where i recompiled kernel from ? |
| 12:30.37 | TinoW | -s |
| 12:30.45 | IDC | i already ran modules_install |
| 12:30.45 | TinoW | IDC: yes |
| 12:30.53 | caphuso | IDC: so, you use almost 300MiB for your kernel source tree and wonder why your whole installation uses 800? |
| 12:30.54 | IDC | TinoW, safe ? |
| 12:30.55 | SlayerXP | idc: yes, you have our permission to do so. |
| 12:31.15 | TinoW | IDC: sure. You only need kernel sources if you are going to compile another module or something |
| 12:31.16 | IDC | I see |
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| 12:31.28 | IDC | i see |
| 12:31.34 | _sadrack_ | TinoW, so, the apache web site on the default server is ok, but the second with need java modules ... |
| 12:31.50 | TinoW | _sadrack_: is this going to be a poem? ;) |
| 12:31.51 | IDC | TinoW, but where did those compiled modules go ? |
| 12:31.54 | BadMan | hmmm... wonder what causes "glitches" in gl? Does it during screen savers, games etc.... |
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| 12:32.09 | priest | IDC: /lib/modules/kernel-version |
| 12:32.20 | TinoW | IDC: cd /lib/modules/`uname -` |
| 12:32.23 | TinoW | -r |
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| 12:32.50 | TinoW | IDC: cd /lib/modules/`uname -r` |
| 12:32.50 | IDC | TinoW, i mean,for example,next time you changed your hardware and will add new modules ,but by that will the old/useless module still remain in system ? |
| 12:32.50 | _sadrack_ | TinoW, sorry, I'm brazilian and i'm trying to speak with you .... |
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| 12:32.50 | _sadrack_ | TinoW, be patient ;) |
| 12:33.18 | TinoW | IDC: every kernel version has an own subdirectory with the modules. And you would need to recompile if you forgot to build a module of course |
| 12:33.33 | _sadrack_ | TinoW, look at this link http://project.inpa.gov.br |
| 12:34.01 | IDC | TinoW, with recompiling,the old/precated modules will be gone ? |
| 12:34.07 | TinoW | .oO(please bear with me - im blonde and female ;)) |
| 12:34.21 | smhar | xoz, done.. thanks |
| 12:34.23 | PerfDave | TinoW: *everybody* on IRC is blonde and female ;) |
| 12:34.35 | stdout | im blonde and male |
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| 12:34.37 | stdout | ! |
| 12:34.39 | SlayerXP | PerfDave: I know I am. |
| 12:34.39 | TinoW | _sadrack_: there is nothing listening on this port aparently |
| 12:34.53 | BadMan | lol Im bald and male hehe |
| 12:34.55 | TinoW | _sadrack_: netstat -ltpn helps to find out |
| 12:34.59 | PerfDave | resiak is a 13 year old California girl. |
| 12:35.28 | saintiss | if I add a new disk to a RAID array, how can I be sure the array will sync to the existing files, and not to the new disk? i.e. if it would do the latter, I would lose everything |
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| 12:36.43 | trentbuck | Hi. I have a question about make-kpkg. |
| 12:38.24 | trentbuck | I was told that the (presumably GCC) option -mcpu=7450 will optimize for the G4 flavour of PPC. Is there a way to get make-kpkg to add this to the GCC build options? |
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| 12:42.20 | ntoll | bodq, doh! thanks! :-) |
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| 12:43.16 | Ketter | hoooyah |
| 12:43.16 | _sadrack_ | TinoW, remember the a I need let this link http://project.inpa.gov.br/login.jsp able. |
| 12:43.16 | _sadrack_ | TinoW, I have an action class that it calls the rest of the site ... |
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| 12:43.17 | TinoW | _sadrack_: did you google on tomcat install debian? And sure you really need this? ;) |
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| 12:44.01 | _sadrack_ | TinoW, so, I've installed tomcat4. |
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| 12:47.08 | spencerk | where can i install kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.3.0)? is it in the package manager or something? |
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| 12:47.55 | FaithX | spencerk: have you tried apt-get update? |
| 12:48.10 | spencerk | umm i think so |
| 12:48.27 | spencerk | shoot |
| 12:49.15 | FaithX | then switch your apt source to unstable for a minute and try apt-get update again see if that gets it for you (being aware of the implications of unstable of course) |
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| 12:49.39 | spencerk | i dont know the implications |
| 12:49.45 | PerfDave | spencerk: Please don't listen to FaithX, they're talking shite ;) |
| 12:49.45 | FaithX | then switch it back |
| 12:49.47 | spencerk | i just want to install amarok |
| 12:49.51 | TinoW | _sadrack_: http://www.jspwiki.org/wiki/LinuxInstall |
| 12:49.53 | PerfDave | spencerk: What are you actually trying to do? |
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| 12:50.11 | PerfDave | spencerk: Which version of Debian are you currently running? |
| 12:50.16 | spencerk | knoppix |
| 12:50.26 | PerfDave | spencerk: #knoppix |
| 12:50.39 | FaithX | PerfDave: thanks for that! |
| 12:50.43 | PerfDave | spencerk: Knoppix is not a version of Debian. |
| 12:50.49 | BadMan | !knoppix |
| 12:50.49 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix |
| 12:51.08 | spencerk | i want it to be debian |
| 12:51.14 | spencerk | ohh |
| 12:51.15 | asg | spencerk: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 12:51.17 | spencerk | shoot |
| 12:51.17 | PerfDave | spencerk: Then install Debian :) |
| 12:51.31 | PerfDave | FaithX: No worries :) |
| 12:51.56 | trentbuck | You can do knoppix on debian by adding Klaus' repository to your sources.list |
| 12:52.00 | FaithX | PerfDave: I was being sarcastic |
| 12:52.06 | spencerk | wow really? |
| 12:52.09 | spencerk | oops |
| 12:52.12 | spencerk | nm |
| 12:52.23 | trentbuck | deb http://developer.linuxtag.net/knoppix/ ./ |
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| 12:52.49 | trentbuck | Most of the stuff in Knoppix is made into .debs |
| 12:53.06 | spencerk | whats the difference between the two? |
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| 12:53.16 | asg | spencerk: we don't support knoppix here; you are on your own |
| 12:53.43 | MobyTurbo | spencerk: there are a lot of differences between knoppix and Debian, not just the repositories. |
| 12:54.05 | spencerk | i want to be friends with you guys, debian is scarey to install though |
| 12:54.23 | cahoot | spencerk: honestly it's not |
| 12:54.29 | FaithX | spencerk: debian is not scarey |
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| 12:54.55 | FaithX | get an installer cd image |
| 12:55.07 | MobyTurbo | spencerk: d-i makes installation easier |
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| 12:55.20 | MobyTurbo | !d-i spencerk |
| 12:55.21 | dpkg | spencerk, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 12:55.29 | spencerk | do you really think i should format, is it worth the change when i dont even know what the difference is between the two |
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| 12:55.45 | spencerk | ok thanks you guys |
| 12:56.00 | xoz | spencerk: if you want our help, install debian. the difference is, we can help you. otherwise, go to #knoppix |
| 12:56.03 | PerfDave | spencerk: Put it like this, I'd expect you'd have fewer problems like your amarok one if you were running Sarge. And #debian is good at supporting Debian; #knoppix is bad at supporting Knoppix. |
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| 12:56.36 | spencerk | haha ok |
| 12:56.42 | cyrille_ | hi. I've got a problem while using sed v3.02. the command sed -e 's/alias_to_create/alias_to_create\n\nAlias\t\/ta_roaming1.0\/\t\"\/home\/cyrille\/acurio\/config\/version1.0\/\"\n<Directory\t\"\/home\/cyrille\/acurio\/config\/version1.0\">\n\tOptions\tIndexes\tMultiViews\n\tAllowOverride\tNone\n\tOrder\tallow,deny\n\tAllow\tfrom\tall\n\t<\/Directory>/g' /home/httpd/conf/httpd.conf > /home/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf doesn't work, it doesn't recognize the \n a |
| 12:56.42 | cyrille_ | nd \t. but it works with sed v4.1.2 |
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| 12:57.03 | pzn | Hi! I'd like to run 2 xservers in the same machine (with two keyboards, mouses and video cards), the machine is debian sarge 2.4.24, anyone here has already done this? any hints, howtos, ... ? |
| 12:57.26 | PerfDave | pzn: I know it's possible... I think the staff at LiveJournal have that sort of setup. |
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| 12:58.47 | xk | how would you choose which keyboard with XF86Config? |
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| 12:59.16 | xk | you can choose video and mouse, but not keyboard. |
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| 12:59.32 | IDC | xk, hi,you can |
| 12:59.35 | jm_ | you can specify a device for keyboard too |
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| 12:59.47 | IDC | xk, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 13:00.27 | IDC | xk, during the configuration,there are several pages ask you for the keyboard settings |
| 13:00.43 | xk | yeah, keyboard _settings_ like layout... but not device, as far as I know. |
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| 13:00.57 | jm_ | you have to do it manually ;) |
| 13:01.43 | Yaroon | Can someone explain what this error means during an apt-get install: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `xxx' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed |
| 13:01.58 | xk | IDC: I've done that several times... but don't recall setting the keyboard device. |
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| 13:02.08 | xk | as if debian would prompt you for that ;) |
| 13:02.15 | xk | when 99.999% of people don't need it. |
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| 13:02.31 | IDC | xk, i think i have had the same problem before,but not on keyboard,on mouse if i recall correctly |
| 13:02.33 | xk | compiling x.org |
| 13:02.40 | FaithX | I have a wierd issue port 25 cannot make outgoing connections all of a sudden (nothing changed our end that I know) but say I "telnet host 25" I get "no route to host" all other ports work and the ISP say it is not them (typical answer)... ? |
| 13:02.55 | xk | FaithX: and host is defined as? |
| 13:03.11 | FaithX | any host running an MTA |
| 13:03.18 | xk | post an example. |
| 13:03.30 | FaithX | telnet pbx.com.au 25 |
| 13:03.38 | jm_ | Yaroon: it means there's a nasty bug in the package or someone messed with it (or you have other issues with the system) |
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| 13:03.44 | sep | FaithX: traceroute -p 25 mta.test.site |
| 13:04.02 | Yaroon | jm_: I get a lot of those though. Something is indeed wrong. |
| 13:04.03 | xk | works here... try traceroute |
| 13:04.24 | xk | FUCKING HELL |
| 13:04.29 | FaithX | Yes I know it works... from any other site but this one |
| 13:04.29 | xk | make World purging everything |
| 13:04.39 | xk | I think |
| 13:04.41 | IDC | Faithful, im connected to that addr. via telnet no problem |
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| 13:04.50 | sep | FaithX: traceroute -p 25 should tell you where it stops |
| 13:05.04 | xk | do I only have one chance to do "make World" with x.org? |
| 13:05.16 | xk | and if it fails, I have to build it again, and again, and again and never see the error? |
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| 13:06.24 | IDC | make world ? |
| 13:06.32 | IDC | xk, is that for recompiling kernel ? |
| 13:06.49 | jethro | xk: /msg dpkg xorg ;p |
| 13:07.05 | jethro | IDC: he said x.org, where did you read kernel ? |
| 13:07.16 | xk | ClDisplay.c:32:24: X11/Xtrans.h: No such file or directory |
| 13:07.19 | xk | there's my problem, heh. |
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| 13:07.33 | jethro | xk: why bother with xorg? |
| 13:07.36 | xk | I guess just running "make" helps. |
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| 13:07.52 | xk | jethro: because direct rendering does not work because debian bastardized trying to support both xfree4.3 and x.org |
| 13:08.04 | jethro | xk: you tried ubuntu debs ? |
| 13:08.08 | xk | no |
| 13:08.11 | jethro | xk: I read that you can do that |
| 13:08.25 | trentbuck | xk: WTF? Debian supports XFree 4.3, that's all! |
| 13:08.25 | xk | I'd rather isolate the install until official debs are out |
| 13:08.27 | jethro | xk: which would help you keep track of installed software with dpkg AND save you from building |
| 13:08.35 | PerfDave | Yeah, it's all Debian's fault, despite it working for everyone else ;) |
| 13:08.43 | jethro | hi PerfDave |
| 13:08.45 | xk | trentbuck: explain why it has a nice version mismatch. |
| 13:08.46 | trentbuck | DRI works fine with XFree 4.3. |
| 13:08.53 | IDC | Can anyone tell me what are those 2 processes doing for after i added iptables that they come up everytime after boot -> ipt_TCPMSS and ipt_tcpmss |
| 13:08.55 | xk | which graphics card |
| 13:09.08 | trentbuck | xk: Radeon 9000, Radeon 9200. |
| 13:09.20 | trentbuck | Using the "radeon" driver. |
| 13:09.23 | IDC | Also i check iptables -L ,in the forward chain it allows all tcp syn flag to get through |
| 13:09.31 | IDC | strange |
| 13:09.35 | xk | well... no idea... it just does not want to work here... worked 1 month ago. |
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| 13:09.56 | trentbuck | xk: with radeon? did someone try to install fglrx? |
| 13:10.11 | xk | trentbuck: no, matrox. |
| 13:10.26 | trentbuck | xk: can't help then, sorry. |
| 13:10.48 | xk | where can I find X11/Xtrans.h |
| 13:10.54 | xk | doesn't appear to be in debian, heh. |
| 13:10.56 | jethro | xk: just give ubuntu debs a try, then build your own stuff if it doesn't work |
| 13:11.06 | xk | jethro: and where are the debs? |
| 13:11.21 | trentbuck | xk: Is that part of the transparency / damage / composite extensions? XFree doesn't include that. |
| 13:11.29 | jethro | xk: fgi :) |
| 13:11.36 | jethro | xk: I don't recall to be honexst |
| 13:11.38 | PerfDave | Mmm, mixing packages between two different OSen. Always fun :) |
| 13:11.47 | xk | "MGA DRI driver expected DDX driver version 1.0.x |
| 13:11.48 | xk | but got version 4.1.0" |
| 13:11.50 | xk | is what I get. |
| 13:12.00 | xk | google turns up nothing useful. |
| 13:12.04 | jethro | PerfDave: still better than building your own |
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| 13:12.13 | PerfDave | jethro: I disagree. |
| 13:12.15 | jethro | dpkg: xorg debs |
| 13:12.15 | dpkg | xorg debs are at http://debian.linux-systeme.com, if you are in one of the countries permitted to access that server |
| 13:12.30 | jethro | PerfDave: that's what I like about plurality of opinions :) |
| 13:12.50 | PerfDave | jethro: Yes, you have the freedom to trash your system if you want :) |
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| 13:13.02 | directhex|work | http://www.mail-archive.com/xfree86@xfree86.org/msg18278.html |
| 13:13.09 | jethro | well I would NEVER get xorg on my debian |
| 13:13.18 | drac | jethro: By doing that, using an old version of DRI provided by e.g. Ubuntu .debs on RADEON r200 card that would not include support for HyperZ, Texture Compression, and AGPMode "8" for example ;) |
| 13:13.22 | jethro | but I have the freedom to make other trash their system :) |
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| 13:13.23 | trentbuck | I personally wouldn't recommend ANY build of Xorg on Debian for at least six months. |
| 13:13.32 | drac | Thus making card working incompletely. |
| 13:13.50 | jethro | drac: I didn't understand |
| 13:14.02 | drac | jethro: I mean, Ubuntu's X.Org is outdated. |
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| 13:14.19 | jethro | drac: compared to latest xorg cvs head? |
| 13:14.35 | drac | Yes, in case of need for Direct Rendering. |
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| 13:14.43 | drac | s/for/of/ |
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| 13:15.14 | jethro | ok I ll just no longer advise the use of ubuntu debs |
| 13:15.26 | Lars_Otte | What deb-Packages are needed for i18n based on *.mo files, my selfcompilied Software don't i18n korrektly ? |
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| 13:15.35 | asg | !beer abrotman |
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| 13:15.42 | abrotman | !eggs me |
| 13:15.47 | dpkg | ops, please ban abrotman |
| 13:15.52 | xk | hah |
| 13:15.55 | abrotman | someday .. i'll understand |
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| 13:16.08 | abrotman | didn't dpkg used to give eggs ? |
| 13:16.23 | trentbuck | I wonder... |
| 13:16.25 | trentbuck | !moo |
| 13:16.25 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939 |
| 13:16.28 | abrotman | asg: guess where i'll be on thursday! |
| 13:16.34 | asg | abrotman: NC? |
| 13:16.38 | abrotman | si senor |
| 13:16.45 | abrotman | but not for long |
| 13:16.55 | asg | abrotman: cool, I'll be working anyway |
| 13:17.14 | directhex|work | actually, looks like xk is right & it IS a bug. if the posting on the xfree86 mailing list is anything to go by |
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| 13:17.21 | DM | Can I ask a question here about a qpopper error in debian? |
| 13:17.22 | abrotman | asg: bummer! |
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| 13:17.31 | xk | directhex|work: there's only one post on the mailing list. and I just filed a bug to bts. |
| 13:17.56 | xk | google pulls up pretty much useless posts with no answers or solutions |
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| 13:18.10 | jethro | !lart google |
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| 13:18.41 | asg | abrotman: trying to tie up loose ends before I go on holiday next week |
| 13:18.45 | xk | nah. google is ok... it's the ppl who maintain lists or forums the ones to blame ;) |
| 13:19.22 | asg | xk: including the stupid icon everyone has to have |
| 13:19.34 | asg | !nickometer lapin__m^-_-^m |
| 13:19.34 | dpkg | 'lapin__m^-_-^m' is 99.9614% lame, asg |
| 13:19.37 | xk | asg: hah. and sigs and useless posts that are contentless. |
| 13:19.49 | asg | xk: agreed |
| 13:19.57 | abrotman | asg: where you goign ? |
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| 13:20.09 | xk | I don't understand forums... I email a mailing list... boom, nice responses. |
| 13:20.21 | asg | abrotman: the couch to drink beer and fool around with some stuff I've been meaning to get to. |
| 13:20.22 | xk | but try that on a forum, and you get people who post irrelevent shit,. |
| 13:20.31 | xk | and evade your question |
| 13:20.32 | abrotman | xk: some forums are ok .. for more specialized stuff .. if you're not in a hurry |
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| 13:20.36 | jethro | xk: because most forum users are clueless people |
| 13:20.40 | asg | xk: long live lists |
| 13:20.50 | directhex|work | mailing lists can also be awful |
| 13:20.58 | directhex|work | the sun managers mailing list is beyond ass |
| 13:21.00 | jethro | indeed |
| 13:21.02 | xk | abrotman: yeah, I'm talking about non-computer related forums. |
| 13:21.07 | xk | they're the ones that shit me the most. |
| 13:21.08 | asg | xk: except debian ones since they no longer send me mail ;) |
| 13:21.12 | abrotman | xk: those exist ? |
| 13:21.33 | jethro | abrotman: yeah there are forums for RPGs, where you actually play |
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| 13:21.37 | xk | er, I meant... those that dont' involve linux ;) |
| 13:22.00 | xk | bah, my choice of words stuffed up what I meant. |
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| 13:22.12 | abrotman | jethro: sounds .. like you'd need a "special" helmet to play :) |
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| 13:22.23 | Lars_Otte | does anyone knows something about an i18n Problem in Sarge? |
| 13:22.49 | jethro | Lars_Otte: anyone is on vacation at th emoment |
| 13:22.53 | shingoki | Anyone else having trouble getting at debian ftp repositories for sarge? |
| 13:22.54 | xk | hah |
| 13:23.12 | xk | !anyone |
| 13:23.13 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 13:23.16 | jethro | shingoki: I have no problem, just tried it |
| 13:23.28 | shingoki | weird |
| 13:23.35 | jethro | shingoki: try another mirror |
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| 13:23.51 | shingoki | I tried ftp.debian.org and ftp.uk.debian.org |
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| 13:24.18 | jethro | well f.d.o *IS* ok |
| 13:24.40 | xk | try http instead? http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ |
| 13:24.49 | shingoki | I'll give that a go... |
| 13:24.51 | PerfDave | f.d.o is a round-robin DNS to various f.*.d.o mirrors isn't it? |
| 13:25.09 | jethro | just 2 |
| 13:25.20 | directhex|work | actually, the biggest problems is linuxquestions forum - i've never seen an actual useful answer to a single question on there |
| 13:25.30 | jethro | resolve it and you'll see PerfDave :) |
| 13:25.33 | xk | directhex|work: hah, I noticed that. |
| 13:25.35 | SlayerXP | directhex|work: i gave up trying to answer questions on there |
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| 13:26.05 | shingoki | looks like http works :) I wonder how I have broken my ftp... |
| 13:26.11 | SlayerXP | directhex|work: "put your computer back in the box and return it to the supplier, you are not qualified to own one." |
| 13:26.17 | xk | shingoki: stay away from ftp |
| 13:26.20 | jethro | shingoki: nat? |
| 13:26.43 | xk | does ftp.nerim.net now use ipv6? |
| 13:26.48 | jethro | shingoki: are you behind a nat device? |
| 13:26.51 | xk | because I can't seem to connect any more. |
| 13:26.51 | shingoki | yup nat, but nothing changed since it worked perfectly before |
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| 13:27.07 | jethro | xk: could be, since nerim is the only ISP in france to provide native v6 |
| 13:27.30 | xk | and I can't seem to get ipv6 working with dynamic ipv4 address, heh. |
| 13:27.30 | jethro | xk: and yes, there is an AAAA record for f.n.n |
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| 13:28.15 | jethro | xk: do you need something there ? |
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| 13:28.34 | xk | well, updated packages would be one thing |
| 13:28.43 | Manneh|Hemlock | question: how to start mysql server as user mysql? |
| 13:28.45 | xk | but I found a non-ipv6 mirror of nerim that actually works. |
| 13:28.50 | jethro | aight |
| 13:28.57 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: /etc/init.d/mysql start |
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| 13:29.15 | dan2 | asg: yo |
| 13:29.17 | nksen | anyone has experience with flex and can gimme some hints on how to access the separate content of yytext? |
| 13:29.20 | asg | dan2: morning |
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| 13:29.50 | asg | nksen: #c might be a better place to ask for pointers |
| 13:30.02 | nksen | asg: true, thx |
| 13:30.12 | xk | how many ppl idle here? |
| 13:30.24 | xk | I remember the "old" days of only 160 nicks. heh |
| 13:30.25 | Manneh|Hemlock | asg |
| 13:30.29 | Manneh|Hemlock | error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' |
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| 13:30.38 | jethro | xk: 99% of idlers I d say |
| 13:31.23 | xk | wtf |
| 13:31.26 | xk | make[5]: *** [lubI24-ISO8859-15.bdf] Killed |
| 13:31.29 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: what debian is this? |
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| 13:31.59 | Manneh|Hemlock | sarge |
| 13:32.13 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: well, does the socket file exist currently? |
| 13:32.25 | Manneh|Hemlock | wait a sec |
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| 13:32.55 | Manneh|Hemlock | no, it doesnt |
| 13:33.20 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: hmmm |
| 13:33.28 | xk | where is the default volume set for xawtv? |
| 13:33.37 | xk | it always resets to 70% of Mic :( |
| 13:33.42 | jethro | in .xawtvrc |
| 13:33.45 | Manneh|Hemlock | i guess i have to have a look at the conf file |
| 13:33.53 | xk | my .xawtv file is empty. |
| 13:33.57 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: mysql should create that socket when the daemon comes up. |
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| 13:34.10 | Manneh|Hemlock | also says: |
| 13:34.28 | jetscreamer | eventually they'll tell you to install amix |
| 13:34.31 | Manneh|Hemlock | WARNING: /etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read. See README.Debian. |
| 13:34.35 | xk | and /etc/X11/xawtvrc has volume set to 97%, but it is ignored :( |
| 13:34.43 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: does /etc/mysql/my.cnf exist? |
| 13:35.09 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: also are you doing '/etc/init.d/mysql start' as root or a regular user? |
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| 13:36.07 | Manneh|Hemlock | regular user |
| 13:36.12 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: run it as root |
| 13:36.20 | Manneh|Hemlock | mh k, i will try |
| 13:36.24 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: the daemon will take care of switching to the mysql user |
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| 13:37.54 | scorphus_ | [off-topic] I have an appointement to 14:00 PT, what is the corresponding GMT? |
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| 13:38.33 | jm_ | scorpix_: www.timezoneconverter.com |
| 13:38.38 | jm_ | scorphus_ ^^^^^^^ |
| 13:38.40 | Manneh|Hemlock | asg: same error |
| 13:39.11 | asg | scorphus_: also, date -u (and a timespec) |
| 13:39.15 | scorphus_ | jm_: nice, thx. I was trying www.timeanddate.com |
| 13:39.31 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: about the config or the socket? |
| 13:39.57 | jetscreamer | speaking of sockets, fry's sold me the wrong processor |
| 13:40.08 | jetscreamer | and i let them |
| 13:40.09 | asg | jetscreamer: time to roast them then |
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| 13:40.19 | scorphus_ | asg: thx |
| 13:40.20 | Manneh|Hemlock | both |
| 13:40.55 | geri_les | les? |
| 13:41.02 | jetscreamer | paul? |
| 13:41.15 | jetscreamer | !debian-fr |
| 13:41.15 | dpkg | debian-fr is, like, an association giving you some documentation: http://www.debian-fr.org/ |
| 13:41.20 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: and you did 'su - ; /etc/init.d/mysql start' ? |
| 13:41.29 | jetscreamer | !fr |
| 13:41.29 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 13:41.34 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: also, check /etc/mysql/my.cnf exists |
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| 13:42.46 | Manneh|Hemlock | it didnt |
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| 13:43.07 | Manneh|Hemlock | only my.cnf.dpkg-dist |
| 13:43.20 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: then cp my.cnf.dpkg-dist my.cnf (and try again.) |
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| 13:43.27 | Manneh|Hemlock | made a copy and renamed it to my.cnf |
| 13:43.31 | Manneh|Hemlock | already did |
| 13:43.32 | Manneh|Hemlock | ^^ |
| 13:43.40 | FaithX | I've got an adsl modem in bridge mode connected to eth1 how would I go about finding out the hardware/ip address of the modem? |
| 13:43.48 | jetscreamer | wow reading the docs what a concept |
| 13:43.57 | Manneh|Hemlock | now the .cnf error disappeared, but still can磘 connect through socket |
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| 13:44.05 | jetscreamer | ipconfig maybe |
| 13:44.20 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: ps aux | grep mysql (see if something is already running.) |
| 13:44.33 | jetscreamer | errr ifconfig |
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| 13:44.38 | jetscreamer | :/ |
| 13:45.03 | jetscreamer | so ifconfig eth1 |
| 13:45.08 | jetscreamer | oh nm doh |
| 13:45.26 | Manneh|Hemlock | asg: no, only "grep mysql" |
| 13:45.42 | Zta | Can stty set the *real* hardware settings of a serial port, or is it only the terminal? |
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| 13:45.46 | Manneh|Hemlock | so it doesnt run |
| 13:46.04 | doub | Zta: setserial is your friend |
| 13:46.15 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: try apt-get install --reinstall mysql-common |
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| 13:46.45 | Zta | doub, That was my guess also. But is it correctly understood, that stty doesn't set serial port settings? |
| 13:46.47 | asg | FaithX: you might try 'ping -b x.x.x.255 ; /usr/sbin/arp' |
| 13:47.05 | doub | Zta: i bet not. but i don't know |
| 13:47.24 | Manneh|Hemlock | asg:...done |
| 13:47.48 | pzn | Hi! I already used a package for blinking keyboard leds when there is network traffic. It was in slink and I don't remember the package name anymore. I already found some packages, but they do not blink with network. any hints? |
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| 13:48.02 | Manneh|Hemlock | asg: Please take a look at the syslog. |
| 13:48.03 | Manneh|Hemlock | /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
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| 13:48.44 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: did it start? |
| 13:48.47 | Manneh|Hemlock | nope |
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| 13:49.02 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: anything interesting in /var/log/syslog? |
| 13:49.03 | jm_ | pzn: tried using something like ledcontrol instead? |
| 13:49.12 | Manneh|Hemlock | hold on a sec |
| 13:50.21 | Manneh|Hemlock | can I qry? |
| 13:50.29 | asg | Manneh|Hemlock: sure |
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| 13:50.47 | pzn | jm_: just found it! it is called tleds and it is not in sarge. will use the potato package! |
| 13:51.06 | jm_ | pzn: that's also an option |
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| 13:52.07 | pzn | jm_: I'll try led control also! thanks! |
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| 13:53.47 | framirez | anybody can help me |
| 13:53.56 | xk | !anybody |
| 13:53.57 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 13:54.12 | jethro | !tell framirez -about smart questions |
| 13:54.13 | framirez | i need to compress my linux, coz i need to install it in one flashcard |
| 13:54.30 | framirez | my partition now have 405MB |
| 13:54.43 | framirez | i need utilise cramfs |
| 13:54.52 | jm_ | framirez: there are file systems designed for this, better use that |
| 13:54.52 | framirez | but .. how can i mount that in the init file? |
| 13:55.14 | Delph | win 8 |
| 13:55.18 | framirez | i need to do, one linux live like knoppix |
| 13:55.27 | framirez | but how can i do it? |
| 13:55.42 | ray99 | Hi, I have installed the "Debian (Sarge) Base System", I typed "apt-get install apt-build", and it asked me a few questions, I'm also not sure what to answer on this question : Configuring Apt-Build "Options to add to GCC" ... ? |
| 13:55.52 | stew | framirez: why not ask in #knoppix about remastering, or look at morphix or something |
| 13:55.59 | framirez | thanks :) |
| 13:56.08 | jethro | !fgi framirez debian+custom+livecd |
| 13:56.10 | dpkg | framirez: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=debian+custom+livecd |
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| 13:56.40 | framirez | its more better to make questions to anybody who know about this :) |
| 13:57.02 | jethro | framirez: no, it's better if you search first, then bother people with your questions |
| 13:57.05 | jethro | $ |
| 13:57.13 | framirez | :( |
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| 13:57.50 | Fionn | hi there. |
| 13:58.00 | jethro | there's the Armaggedon in paris, it's raining like it never did |
| 13:58.15 | framirez | i'am parisian :) |
| 13:59.15 | Fionn | could anyone here possibly tellme how apt is evaluating the pinning rules in /etc/pat/preferences? Does ist stop at the first rule that matches? (I'd like to have a low-pri "default" for various external sources at once) |
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| 13:59.48 | jm_ | Fionn: tried man apt_preferences? |
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| 14:00.02 | xk | where do you set the default WM for x.org? |
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| 14:00.52 | ArchitectSinan | hi all |
| 14:01.04 | Fionn | xk: you dont. x.org is not really awayre of your WM choice at all |
| 14:01.42 | Fionn | jm_: oh well. duh. I read n+1 howtos and missed that one. gone reading. |
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| 14:02.28 | TinoW | huhu Fionn :) |
| 14:02.39 | xk | drac: dlopen: /usr/local/X11R6.8/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: undefined symbol: __glXLastContext |
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| 14:03.09 | Fionn | TinoW: hi. |
| 14:03.12 | xk | damn I hate mouse to focus |
| 14:03.18 | TinoW | Fionn: how is life? |
| 14:03.27 | Fionn | TinoW: shouldnt you be on #amiga ;-) |
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| 14:03.40 | TinoW | Fionn: I'm there too ;) |
| 14:04.05 | Fionn | TinoW: life is interesting. |
| 14:04.22 | drac | xk: Remove Load GLcore from Section "Module". |
| 14:04.57 | drac | xk: Second.. |
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| 14:05.10 | xk | and where do I set default WM since it seems to ignore what I had with my previous setup |
| 14:05.18 | drac | xk: http://www.pastebin.com/279084 |
| 14:05.21 | IDC | apt-get install alsamixer,not found |
| 14:05.24 | drac | xk: Should look something like that .. |
| 14:05.26 | IDC | strange |
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| 14:05.47 | drac | xk: Hmm, use .xinitrc or .xsession in your homedirectory? |
| 14:06.08 | xk | drac: I use... hrm... whatever is linked by x-window-manager |
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| 14:06.57 | drac | xk: exec /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager (to .xsession or .xinitrc) |
| 14:07.14 | drac | should work(tm) :) |
| 14:07.24 | xk | AfterStep: Another Window Manager is running |
| 14:07.33 | xk | so where is the other one set. heh |
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| 14:07.58 | zumbi | hi ! i get : mount: unknown filesystem type 'squashfs' <- is that because i don't have squash-patch for my kernel ? do debian kernels have this squash patch ? |
| 14:08.06 | xk | that's so weird... it's not even running a WM from the looks of it. |
| 14:08.29 | xk | ok, it's running xinitrc |
| 14:08.33 | xk | I'll just symlink to the old one |
| 14:08.49 | xk | or just run x-window-manager from it |
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| 14:08.55 | drac | Those modules are I've paste to pastebin are pretty much optimized for DRI. |
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| 14:09.28 | xk | brb |
| 14:10.22 | ray99 | hi, how could I install X on Debian with package selection and build it with apt-build ? |
| 14:10.24 | IDC | if i have added alsa support in kernel,do i also have to install alsa-base,alsa-utils via apt-get ? |
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| 14:10.40 | xk | drac: lol. still same problem. |
| 14:10.47 | jm_ | udc;it certainly makes sense |
| 14:10.51 | xk | just a black window for glxgears |
| 14:10.54 | jm_ | idc ^^^^^^ |
| 14:10.58 | xk | and 100-200 fps |
| 14:11.00 | IDC | jm_, yes ? |
| 14:11.10 | jm_ | IDC: read above *line starts with udc) |
| 14:11.26 | drac | xk: mga, and drm is in your kernel? |
| 14:11.35 | xk | drm 58836 2 mga |
| 14:11.36 | xk | agpgart 28328 2 drm,amd64_agp |
| 14:11.43 | drac | d'oh |
| 14:11.43 | xk | mga 57728 1 |
| 14:11.56 | scorphus | jm_: I have the PT timezone, but can only find information about PST or PDT, do you know which of them is meant by PT? |
| 14:11.58 | IDC | ? |
| 14:11.59 | drac | That version mismatch text is still there?! |
| 14:12.12 | jm_ | scorphus: I have no clue |
| 14:12.14 | xk | drac: forgotten how to enable that info. |
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| 14:12.20 | drac | xk: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo |
| 14:12.20 | scorphus | k |
| 14:12.33 | xk | libGL error: |
| 14:12.34 | xk | Can't open configuration file /etc/drirc: No such file or directory. |
| 14:12.34 | xk | libGL error: |
| 14:12.34 | xk | Can't open configuration file /root/.drirc: No such file or directory. |
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| 14:12.56 | chimpz | hi, anybody knows what happened to libpam-smb ? |
| 14:12.56 | jm_ | scorphus_: that D probably meand daylight saving time, and S is perhaps summer |
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| 14:13.05 | drac | xk: Ok, install driconf. http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriConf |
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| 14:13.17 | drac | xk: That's small tool to create .drirc |
| 14:13.17 | streuner_ | lol |
| 14:13.22 | IDC | xk, wow |
| 14:13.40 | xk | bah. I hate the new fonts. |
| 14:13.44 | IDC | xk, were those error messages from doing 'startx' ? |
| 14:13.48 | zumbi | chimpz : libpam-smbpass - pluggable authentication module for SMB password database |
| 14:14.06 | chimpz | zumbi, that's to authenticate with a local smb database |
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| 14:14.33 | xk | IDC: don't worry. I've probably been using linux like 100 times longer than you ;o |
| 14:14.44 | IDC | sure thing |
| 14:15.30 | scorphus | jm_: yes, indeed. And I *think* they are in [D]aylight saving time which make it to be GMT-7 (I think the S is standard) |
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| 14:15.53 | xk | I never like upgrading anything ;( bound to be something changed that I don't like |
| 14:16.19 | drac | xk: If you'll get this working, you'll love the new improved performance *sigh* :) |
| 14:16.40 | xk | just wait... I'm taking my time ;) |
| 14:17.00 | xk | drac: yeah, I'm disappointed in the performance compared to my old system. |
| 14:17.09 | xk | although, might be related to afterstep, heh. |
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| 14:17.12 | scorphus | jm_: anyways I'll attend it in time or 1 hour ahead... :) |
| 14:17.17 | jm_ | scorphus: heh |
| 14:17.29 | xk | then again, that's just for 2d |
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| 14:18.35 | xk | drac: do I need to cvs checkout xc into the original dir? |
| 14:18.46 | xk | or it's separate? |
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| 14:19.06 | drac | for driconf? |
| 14:19.26 | xk | or am I cvs'ing the wrong thing? :) |
| 14:19.32 | drac | you are :) |
| 14:19.42 | drac | xk: http://dri.freedesktop.org/~fxkuehl/driconf/driconf-0.2.6.tar.gz |
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| 14:20.13 | benoitc | hi all |
| 14:20.25 | benoitc | anyone know where I can find source code of debian installer ? |
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| 14:20.48 | jethro | benoitc: ask #debian-boot |
| 14:20.48 | streuner_ | benoitc: #debian-boot |
| 14:20.50 | benoitc | I mean installer on the cdrom |
| 14:20.54 | benoitc | ok |
| 14:20.56 | benoitc | thx |
| 14:21.00 | jethro | !thx |
| 14:21.01 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. |
| 14:21.06 | drac | xk: Needs some python packages install to get it compiled.. 'python setup.py install', it just creates one binary 'driconf'. |
| 14:21.16 | benoitc | mmm |
| 14:21.27 | xk | hah @ dpkg. |
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| 14:22.19 | xk | drac: how am I supposed to use driconf? |
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| 14:23.28 | drac | xk: Just change the settings you want, and make it write the .drirc, copy it over to /etc/drirc .. |
| 14:23.32 | Teemu_K | ;P |
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| 14:24.25 | kostasK | hi, I have a problem with a small /tmp dir which get overflowed. I would like to redirect the files written to /tmp to another partition with more space on it. Should I set $TMP or $TMPDIR or something else? |
| 14:24.36 | jethro | xk: how long did it take to build xorg? |
| 14:24.46 | Teemu_K | five days |
| 14:24.51 | bernardo_ | anybody knows... |
| 14:25.00 | xk | jethro: hrm.. I had to do it twice... but I think 15 mins or so |
| 14:25.01 | asg | kostasK: you could always symlink /tmp to a larger partition (or create a new larger partition from freespace and put /tmp there.) |
| 14:25.05 | xk | or 10 |
| 14:25.11 | jethro | xk: nice |
| 14:25.29 | xk | brb |
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| 14:26.08 | jethro | xk: why don't you use /detach and scr-bx ? :) |
| 14:26.30 | xk | jethro: dunno :) |
| 14:26.32 | jethro | heh |
| 14:26.58 | xk | (WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION**** b: 0xf8000000 e: 0xfa000000 correcting |
| 14:27.01 | xk | hrm |
| 14:27.09 | kostasK | asg, that's a good idea. but how do processes know where to write temp-data? is it a convention to use /tmp? Is it set in a config file somewhere? |
| 14:27.09 | jethro | hmmmmmm |
| 14:27.14 | xk | drac: ok, what now? |
| 14:27.22 | xk | glxgears still black |
| 14:27.35 | xk | (WW) MGA(0): Video BIOS info block not detected! |
| 14:27.37 | xk | what the hell is that |
| 14:27.46 | asg | kostasK: some will use TMPDIR if defined but all will usually use /tmp or /var/tmp. |
| 14:27.47 | drac | xk: Second .. |
| 14:28.08 | kostasK | asg, ok thanks |
| 14:29.05 | xk | I'll check my old logs if they have that warning |
| 14:29.24 | ray99 | Hi, how could I install Xorg/XFree86 on Debian with apt-build ? |
| 14:29.31 | xk | yeah, same thing. but not sure if 3d worked back then. |
| 14:29.54 | drac | xk: Use VideoRam to specify correct amount of memory in xorg.conf, and make sure drm, mga, is loaded _after_ agpgart, like rmmod, modprobe them again. |
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| 14:31.02 | Gozar | Why is it, that I can renice a process to 19, but can't renice it back again to 0 as a user? |
| 14:31.06 | drac | xk: You might also need Option "MGASDRAM" "on" or "off", to specify if you have SDRAM in your Matrox or not. |
| 14:31.17 | drac | xk: Auto-detection might fail .. |
| 14:31.32 | asg | Gozar: man renice |
| 14:31.48 | Tyras | Hello I have xdm, and KDM, but I cant change my resolution, how can I change the resolution setting when I am in KDE? |
| 14:32.12 | xk | drac: I can't remove amd64-agp |
| 14:32.13 | PerfDave | Tyras: System -> Screen Resize and Rotate |
| 14:32.30 | Tyras | nope doesnt work, PerfDave, no such option |
| 14:32.31 | drac | xk: No, remove only drm, and mga and load them back. |
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| 14:32.37 | ^rob^ | hi |
| 14:32.42 | PerfDave | Tyras: What do you mean, "doesn't work"? |
| 14:32.58 | incorrect | has anyone got the dell open manage hardware sensors working? |
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| 14:33.09 | ^rob^ | what the heck is this err? - Pivot root - /sbin/init cannot open dev/console - new Sata hdd - 2.6 kern |
| 14:33.13 | Tyras | PerfDave: there aint an option screen Resice |
| 14:33.21 | ^rob^ | any clue? |
| 14:33.22 | Maxal | How can I install RPM Files please? |
| 14:33.28 | xk | drac: no change. |
| 14:33.33 | ^rob^ | Maxal: use alien |
| 14:33.36 | PerfDave | Maxal: Why do you want to install an RPM file? It's rarely a good idea. |
| 14:33.38 | streuner_ | xk: what the hell are you trying to do, get x.org to work and get a lot of headaches? |
| 14:33.38 | Gozar | asg: Thanks. Had missed that on the man page |
| 14:33.47 | petemc | incorrect: lots of people, check the archives for the linux-poweredge mailing list |
| 14:33.48 | Maxal | PerfDave, vmware does not offer DEB's |
| 14:33.58 | tarzeau | Maxal: don't |
| 14:33.58 | framirez | you need to active the support /dev/ in your kernel ^rob^ |
| 14:33.58 | Maxal | ^rob^, I tried alien but it does not come to an end |
| 14:34.07 | xk | streuner_: I was having the exact same problems with xf4.3.0, I have no idea what's the problem. atleast drac is actually helping, unlike other people. |
| 14:34.20 | ^rob^ | Maxal: download vmware as tar.gz |
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| 14:34.38 | ^rob^ | Maxal: i have it so - if you have kern 2.4 - you'll need a patch |
| 14:34.39 | Maxal | ^rob^, I also tried it as tar.gz but then an other problem comes up |
| 14:34.42 | ^rob^ | for debian |
| 14:34.48 | PerfDave | Tyras: Which version of KDE or Debian are you running? |
| 14:34.48 | ^rob^ | reboot problem? |
| 14:34.49 | ^rob^ | :) |
| 14:34.51 | framirez | 2.6 its really fas |
| 14:34.51 | framirez | t |
| 14:34.54 | Maxal | What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running |
| 14:34.54 | Maxal | kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] |
| 14:34.55 | asg | Gozar: you're welcome |
| 14:34.56 | petemc | xk: any time anyone asks about x.org in here, theres usually a barrage of "debian doesnt support x.org.." |
| 14:35.04 | framirez | Maxal make menuconfig |
| 14:35.05 | Maxal | This is the default path |
| 14:35.09 | Maxal | but it is not accepted |
| 14:35.18 | framirez | cat patch | patch -p1 |
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| 14:35.20 | Tyras | PerfDave: Latest versions of both, installed it yesterday |
| 14:35.33 | xk | drac: hrm... could /proc/mtrr be a problem? |
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| 14:35.36 | streuner_ | xk: so did you tried a knoppix-live-CD and what happened then? |
| 14:35.38 | PerfDave | Tyras: What do you mean, "latest versions of both"? |
| 14:35.40 | asg | !uuoc framirez |
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| 14:35.53 | framirez | asg :( |
| 14:35.56 | asg | framirez: :) |
| 14:36.11 | Tyras | PrefDave: just the latest one from april the 24th I believe |
| 14:36.14 | framirez | haha, i like dpkg, its a like unix command :) |
| 14:36.15 | drac | xk: Yes, or missing i2c devices (those are used to detect stuff like VIDEO BIOS..) |
| 14:36.23 | asg | framirez: a blootbot |
| 14:36.26 | asg | !what are you |
| 14:36.27 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
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| 14:36.33 | ^rob^ | does anyone has sata and 2.6 kernel? |
| 14:36.36 | xk | drac: hrm... what i2c thing do I need? |
| 14:36.40 | xk | drac: i2c-viapro? |
| 14:36.47 | PerfDave | Tyras: What version of Debian did you install? Woody? Sarge? 3.0r5? |
| 14:36.53 | saintiss | where are uuid's of RAID arrays stored? I'd like to delete those of /dev/md1, but removing /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, nor mdadm -S /dev/md1 help |
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| 14:37.06 | streuner_ | xk: ... to make sure its not a hardware-problem |
| 14:37.23 | xk | hm |
| 14:37.31 | drac | xk: i2c_isa.. i2c_dev.. i2c_algo_bit.. |
| 14:37.32 | Tyras | PerfDave: debian-30r4-i386-binary-1.iso <-- does this answer the question? |
| 14:37.38 | xk | let me tell you, I am stumped as to what is the problem |
| 14:37.45 | PerfDave | Tyras: Yes |
| 14:37.50 | xk | drac: I have all those (required for tv card and sensors) |
| 14:37.50 | drac | I'm not quite sure either. |
| 14:38.01 | drac | Trying to figure that out :) |
| 14:38.02 | xk | actually, not i2c-dev |
| 14:38.36 | Maxal | Where are my "C Headers" please? |
| 14:38.38 | PerfDave | Tyras: I don't think that the version of KDE in Woody (Debian 3.0) supports dynamic resolution changing. I'm not even sure that X does. You can alter your X resolution with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and restarting X. |
| 14:38.42 | Maxal | gcc is located at /usr/bin/gcc |
| 14:38.47 | framirez | X -configure |
| 14:38.49 | Maxal | and I need to find the C headers |
| 14:38.50 | tarzeau | Maxal: in /usr/include |
| 14:39.03 | tarzeau | dpkg tell Maxal about repeat |
| 14:39.06 | tarzeau | dpkg tell Maxal about ask |
| 14:39.07 | framirez | Maxal: apt-get install libc6-dev |
| 14:39.09 | framirez | like that |
| 14:39.26 | xk | drac: do you want a copy of Xorg.0.log? |
| 14:39.34 | ^rob^ | does anyone had this err on kern 2.6 - sata hdd - kernel panic cannot open /dev/console ??? |
| 14:39.41 | drac | xk: Please, and 'dmesg', and 'xorg.conf'.. |
| 14:39.43 | ^rob^ | i mean did - not does |
| 14:39.58 | xk | drac: over dcc? 3 files individually or tar? |
| 14:40.11 | Tyras | PerfDave: I tried running xf86config, and after all the questions: it said I had to press cntl-alt- + but that doesnt work |
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| 14:40.33 | PerfDave | Tyras: That will work if you have more than one X resolution defined. |
| 14:40.33 | drac | xk: Doesn't matter, if you could upload them somewhere, would be better. I bet my DCC doesn't work. |
| 14:40.40 | xk | ok |
| 14:40.48 | Tyras | PerfDave: I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 , but it comes with the error that reconfigure is not a valid argument |
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| 14:41.11 | PerfDave | Tyras: Then tht's not what you typed. |
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| 14:41.40 | coruptkid | hello all |
| 14:41.46 | Tyras | PerfDave: I copy pasted it ...... |
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| 14:42.20 | PerfDave | Tyras: Unless you have a pressing need for security updates, you might be better off installing Sarge instead. It's got more modern versions of things like X and KDE, and supports dynamic resizing of your X desktop. |
| 14:42.25 | Maxal | thx tarzeau and framirez |
| 14:42.25 | coruptkid | can someone please tell me how i would install all of the core linux utilities suc as ee or vim?? |
| 14:42.42 | ^rob^ | who owns dpkg? |
| 14:42.43 | jethro | PerfDave: support dynamic resizing of your desktop ? |
| 14:42.45 | PerfDave | coruptkid: apt-get install vim |
| 14:42.46 | jethro | PerfDave: wtf is that? |
| 14:42.53 | mosty | coruptkid, tasksel (?) |
| 14:42.53 | coruptkid | k ill tray that |
| 14:42.55 | PerfDave | jethro: Changing resolution within X without restarting. xrandr |
| 14:43.05 | jethro | aaah |
| 14:43.08 | ^rob^ | dpkg - in this channel - the robotter :) |
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| 14:43.23 | PerfDave | Isn't dpkg dondelelcaro's responsibility? |
| 14:43.25 | jethro | PerfDave: thanks for the info :) |
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| 14:43.35 | jethro | PerfDave: it is |
| 14:43.38 | coruptkid | just installed debian, how do you read the screen output about the current page?? |
| 14:43.47 | coruptkid | *above |
| 14:43.47 | ^rob^ | Kernel panic.! (3ware sata-raid) [Note: you can fix this by chroot into /target, edit /etc/mkinitrd/modules and add 3w_9xxx, and re-run mkinitrd] |
| 14:43.54 | mosty | coruptkid, page of what? |
| 14:44.00 | coruptkid | of console output |
| 14:44.02 | ^rob^ | i think this would be nice in dpkg answers |
| 14:44.19 | framirez | hey |
| 14:44.28 | coruptkid | scroll lock does not move up the window |
| 14:44.29 | framirez | how can i create one mknitrd personalisated? |
| 14:44.31 | jethro | ^rob^: just teach him |
| 14:44.36 | ^rob^ | how? |
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| 14:44.54 | jethro | ^rob^: /msg dpkg help |
| 14:45.01 | ^rob^ | ok thnx |
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| 14:45.36 | coruptkid | mosty, should it not be scroll lock?? |
| 14:45.59 | mosty | coruptkid, i still don't know what you're asking |
| 14:46.39 | coruptkid | ok say i run the command apt-get, all of the information about the command is displayed in the console, but there is to much information for one screen |
| 14:47.03 | coruptkid | how do i look at the previous screen output?? |
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| 14:47.17 | xk | shift page up |
| 14:47.22 | coruptkid | great |
| 14:47.23 | chimpz | shit pgup / pgdown |
| 14:47.26 | xk | providing you don't change consoles ;) |
| 14:47.26 | chimpz | shift :) |
| 14:47.32 | xk | hah @ shit |
| 14:47.40 | coruptkid | the huge difference little things make _-) |
| 14:47.43 | coruptkid | :-) |
| 14:47.45 | chimpz | heheh |
| 14:48.02 | chimpz | still a mystery why pam_smb doesnt exist anymore!! |
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| 14:51.10 | Pakal | Hi, Im looking for a backup solution, I heard about multicd and mondo but I would prefer hear some suggestios |
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| 14:52.55 | asg | Pakal: backuppc and bacula are nice though maybe a little overkill for your needs. |
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| 14:53.14 | PerfDave | Pakal: What are you trying to back up, what are you trying to back it up to? |
| 14:54.00 | mattySn_ | anyone who knows howto add a local include to a external kernel module ? using CFLAGS += -I ../includes does not work ? |
| 14:54.26 | Pakal | I just wanna save the /var/www directory and the result of "pg_dumpall" commnand |
| 14:55.07 | mosty | Pakal, how large are they? |
| 14:55.54 | Pakal | mosty, 300 or 400 MB |
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| 14:56.17 | Pakal | even less |
| 14:56.22 | mosty | Pakal, what medium do you want to backup to? |
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| 14:56.54 | obtix | the alias's in my ~/.bashrc file don't seem to be working |
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| 14:57.06 | jethro | !doesn't work |
| 14:57.06 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 14:57.21 | caphuso | obtix: source .bashrc in .bash_profile |
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| 14:57.22 | asg | obtix: check ~/.bash_profile (and make sure the ~/.bashrc stuff is uncommented.) |
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| 14:57.35 | Pakal | mosty, CDs |
| 14:57.38 | obtix | jethro: wow, your just dying to use those bang commands HEH |
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| 14:57.45 | pi | how com my ls doesnt use the LS_COLORS defined by dircolors? |
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| 14:57.53 | greycat | !wikifaq obtix DotFiles |
| 14:57.53 | dpkg | obtix: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 14:57.55 | asg | pi: check your ~/.bashrc |
| 14:57.55 | obtix | caphuso asg : thank you, i will check that now |
| 14:57.57 | mosty | Pakal, it's so small, you could just write a short script that does it |
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| 14:58.12 | Pakal | obtix, simple quotes : alias='ssh user@server.com' |
| 14:58.14 | pi | like.. dircolors shows that *.mp3 should display as a magenta, but *.mp3s are always greenbold. |
| 14:58.25 | greycat | Pakal: uh, you forgot something. |
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| 14:58.31 | jethro | obtix: no I m not |
| 14:58.33 | Pakal | mosty, ok, I will |
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| 14:58.43 | yuber | hi |
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| 14:58.54 | yuber | is there a good way to install x.org in my sarge? |
| 14:59.01 | pi | asg, what am I looking for there? |
| 14:59.02 | greycat | yuber: no. |
| 14:59.03 | mosty | Pakal, then you can just pop a cd in, run your script, and away it goes |
| 14:59.07 | directhex|work | yuber, why? |
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| 14:59.14 | yuber | want x.org :) |
| 14:59.24 | greycat | yuber: why? |
| 14:59.34 | priest | how do i refuse apache to "browse" a root if there is no index.xxx? |
| 14:59.42 | Pakal | mosty, I will search with google a simple perl/python script |
| 14:59.44 | greycat | priest: turn off the Indexes option |
| 14:59.45 | yuber | testings ... interestings .... 4.3.0 is realy old |
| 14:59.46 | asg | pi: a custom dircolors or LS_COLORS |
| 14:59.48 | jethro | priest: DirectoryIndex or somehitn glike that |
| 14:59.53 | mosty | yuber, you can compile it if you like. there's a guide to doing that from debian- google it |
| 14:59.59 | mosty | pakal: a shell script would do |
| 15:00.03 | jethro | priest: they should know better in #apache |
| 15:00.11 | daffy-pkf | lo |
| 15:00.21 | Pakal | mosty, Im very bad with bash scripots ;-( |
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| 15:00.39 | obtix | whoop, thanks guys... it was a problem in my .bash_profile :-P now on to bigger problems.... |
| 15:00.43 | PerfDave | priest: Don't have Options Indexes for the relevant <Directory> |
| 15:00.52 | asg | pi: also, if your *.mp3 files are +x, you will see them in green |
| 15:00.56 | IDC | If anyone has/had a sound card based on Crystal CS46xx and sucesfully got it worked in switching to Headphone mode ,please tell me how :( |
| 15:01.01 | pi | asg: nope.. I uncommented out the eval "'dircolors'" line.. and its still not displaying correctly. |
| 15:01.04 | daffy-pkf | where ca find an ircop please? |
| 15:01.14 | PerfDave | daffy-pkf: #freenode ? |
| 15:01.15 | asg | pi: chmod -x *.mp3 ; ls -l |
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| 15:01.29 | PerfDave | IDC: You've been struggling with this for a while. Have you tried asking on debian-user? |
| 15:01.41 | daffy-pkf | PerfDave> i'm not able to talk there... |
| 15:01.53 | IDC | PerfDave, i ask in this channel |
| 15:01.56 | PerfDave | daffy-pkf: Read the Freenode documentation at http://www.freenode.net/ |
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| 15:01.59 | pi | asg: its u+x, and I cannot get that off of there. |
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| 15:02.06 | daffy-pkf | PerfDave> ok |
| 15:02.08 | priest | PerfDave: i use virtual domains..and i have no index-options in the virtual tag |
| 15:02.10 | asg | pi: because it's on a vfat partition? |
| 15:02.15 | pi | Yep. |
| 15:02.18 | carbon60 | Good morning all. |
| 15:02.20 | IDC | PerfDave, yeah,i recompiled kernel again,same |
| 15:02.20 | pi | windows mount. |
| 15:02.25 | PerfDave | IDC: Yeah, and you've not gotten any help. So debian-user might be of more use. |
| 15:02.26 | pi | so I guess Im out of luck there. |
| 15:02.31 | carbon60 | Anyone around using racoon-tool? |
| 15:02.31 | asg | pi: well, you could try futzing with your LS_COLORS and put mp3 before executables. |
| 15:02.39 | IDC | debian-user ? |
| 15:02.42 | PerfDave | IDC: /msg dpkg further help |
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| 15:02.54 | Anvil | [oFf!~Command@81.212.112.31] http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 15:03.00 | pi | asg, okay. |
| 15:03.04 | yuber | is there a software for blocking hackers at ssh, like this? |
| 15:03.05 | Anvil | if any chanop want to ban it.. |
| 15:03.09 | obtix | i have a dual ethernet card... in my kernel i bonded the cards (i am not sure if that matters for this problem)... i have my settings correct in my /etc/resolv.conf and my network settings right but when the two ethernet cards go up they can not resolve hostnames/domains if i "pump" eth0 i get full use (but not the right ip) if i then bring down eth0 eth1 which is static magicly sees domain names |
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| 15:03.19 | carbon60 | Something on my system is causing it to barf, but I've got 4 other systems with the same config. It either isn't generating racoon.conf or it is generating something bogus. |
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| 15:03.25 | pi | asg, thanks. |
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| 15:03.36 | greycat | ick. |
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| 15:03.43 | PerfDave | Whoops, bad greycat ;) |
| 15:03.45 | jethro | Anvil: read the topic, you can use !ops for such things, and also, avoid pasting what they say :) |
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| 15:03.48 | jethro | !lose greycat |
| 15:03.49 | dpkg | greycat: You Lose. |
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| 15:03.57 | greycat | damned text! stop moving while I'm pasting you! |
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| 15:04.02 | jethro | heh |
| 15:04.05 | priest | greycat: taking drugs today? |
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| 15:04.13 | greycat | priest: no. should I?> |
| 15:04.20 | jethro | it looks as though |
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| 15:05.01 | Kerr | what file do i look at in proc to find my current video resolution? |
| 15:05.19 | caphuso | it's nothing compared to my current amazement... |
| 15:06.58 | abc | Why does i18n in debian Package "xfe" is broken? other Applikations have the same Problem? |
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| 15:07.08 | greycat | Kerr: xdpyinfo |
| 15:08.17 | Kerr | that's what i thought.. |
| 15:08.21 | Kerr | :/proc$ cat xdpyinfo |
| 15:08.22 | Kerr | cat: xdpyinfo: No such file or directory |
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| 15:08.40 | oskie | it's in xbase-clients Kerr |
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| 15:09.21 | cheal | what does DSO mean in the context of attaching to a process by gdb : "`system-supplied DSO at 0xffffe000' has disappeared" |
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| 15:09.36 | Kerr | ? |
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| 15:10.38 | incorrect | other than minicom, what is a good app for using console on serial? |
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| 15:11.04 | cpklas | how do I patch my kernel 2.6.11.8 kernel with libata? |
| 15:11.09 | Anvil | by the time sarge become the new stable one, will x86_64 be a supported arch ? |
| 15:11.17 | greycat | Anvil: not officially |
| 15:11.32 | greycat | Anvil: see #debian-amd64 for details |
| 15:11.37 | Anvil | ok, thank you. |
| 15:12.17 | saintiss | are uuid's of RAID arrays stored somewhere, apart from mdadm.conf? and I don't mean on the participating partitions... |
| 15:12.27 | grendal_prime | this is probably a stupid question..but ...so im stupid..ive knoticed that alot of .deb packages install docs in the user/share/doc/ dir. (big shocker) is there some particular app that you use to browse those files..?? |
| 15:13.12 | grendal_prime | it would be cool if you could use the kde help to view those files...but it doesnt seem to do that by default |
| 15:13.30 | grendal_prime | ive been using nano, for some of them..but it seems like they are in several different formats |
| 15:14.03 | caphuso | grendal_prime: you use a browser for HTML docs, a pager for text files, xpdf etc. for PDF files, gv for PS files, ... |
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| 15:14.07 | nullvoid | I can't access any services on my pc using my public IP, I only can access it using localhost, my ftp, web and ect are inaccessible. HOW? |
| 15:14.30 | grendal_prime | ok..so basically the way i have been doing it |
| 15:14.32 | nullvoid | if I ssh to other machine, I am able to run all service from that machine |
| 15:14.37 | grendal_prime | just wanted to make sure thanks |
| 15:15.01 | caphuso | grendal_prime: konqueror should do the right thing |
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| 15:15.35 | grendal_prime | ya i mean for the most part it does, i just wanted to make sure there was not something that sort of indexed it all and supplied search facilities for it |
| 15:15.52 | grendal_prime | you know...like a pluggable help system |
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| 15:16.32 | Anvil | greycat : may i ask you more 'political' details or will you send to #debian-amd64 anyway ? |
| 15:16.35 | grendal_prime | which have never worked right in "other os's" but you know if someone was to finaly get that working it would probably be debian first |
| 15:17.27 | greycat | Anvil: I don't know them. Ask the other channel. |
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| 15:18.23 | PerfDave | Anvil: Sarge amd64 will be unofficially supported by the amd64 porters. Etch amd64 will be officially supported. |
| 15:18.24 | Anvil | greycat : actualy I'm wondering about about the very official debian project see `them'... |
| 15:18.41 | caphuso | grendal_prime: check out dwww |
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| 15:21.42 | BucWheat | hey all i can't ftp into my box. where can i check in kernel to make sure i didn't disable ftp'ing ? |
| 15:21.54 | BucWheat | or one of the compenents needed to ftp into machines |
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| 15:21.59 | BucWheat | and yes vsftpd is running |
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| 15:22.15 | OhSmiTt | when I boot I have a mount point in fstab for a raid drive. The problem is that the driver for the interface card is not loaded until after the initial kernel. How can I either put the module in initrd or bypass the need to run fsck on the drive till after the module is loaded. |
| 15:22.18 | PerfDave | BucWheat: Is it running on an external interface? |
| 15:22.18 | SlayerXP | BucWheat: what makes you think it's a kernel issue? |
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| 15:22.46 | BucWheat | SlayerXP because when i posted the error a month ago some debian guru said i disabled something in kernel |
| 15:22.58 | BucWheat | PerfDave only on eth0 |
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| 15:23.12 | SlayerXP | BucWheat: can you be less specific? |
| 15:23.44 | greycat | !VAGUENESS |
| 15:23.44 | dpkg | VAGUENESS CAUSES REALLY BAD THINGS! |
| 15:23.52 | BucWheat | i don't have the actual error anymore and i'm setting up another box and i'm in the process of doing a new kernel and i do not want to mess it up again |
| 15:24.08 | SlayerXP | BucWheat: then we can't help you, sorry. |
| 15:24.18 | PerfDave | BucWheat: Why are you compiling your own kernel? |
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| 15:24.25 | greycat | !debian kernel image |
| 15:24.25 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who compile their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
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| 15:24.29 | BucWheat | PerfDave so comedi will work :) |
| 15:24.37 | greycat | see, we *can* help you. |
| 15:25.02 | BucWheat | well if comedi was built into debian and installed with apt-get install then i wouldn't have to compile my own kernel but it depends on it |
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| 15:25.11 | BucWheat | so therefore i have to compile my own kernel |
| 15:25.19 | PerfDave | BucWheat: You can install comedi with module-assistant. |
| 15:25.20 | BucWheat | and untarring kernel-source doesn't work |
| 15:25.26 | greycat | bullshit. |
| 15:25.29 | BucWheat | PerfDave we tried that remember? and it didn't work |
| 15:25.45 | greycat | if untarring "doesn't work", either it's a PEBKAC, or it's a corrupted tarball. |
| 15:25.55 | BucWheat | greycat please dude. i've tried that numerous times and it didn't work. the author of the program told me what to do and it worked |
| 15:26.02 | PerfDave | BucWheat: Oh well, if your FTP server doesn't work then you screwed something up in your kernel build. |
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| 15:26.08 | greycat | untarring failed? |
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| 15:26.38 | BucWheat | greycat no. it untarred successfully. the program needs .config for some reason |
| 15:26.39 | greycat | arc1:~$ apt-cache search comedi |
| 15:26.39 | greycat | comedi-source - Comedi kernel module source |
| 15:26.49 | BucWheat | and that one is not the most recent |
| 15:26.53 | greycat | Oh, but we can't help you. |
| 15:26.56 | PerfDave | greycat: That's the thing you install with module-assistant, but BucWheat is claiming that that didn't work for him. |
| 15:26.57 | henry | if I want to put a textual version tag into a package that I'm building with dpkg-buildpackage, where should I put it? I tried putting it in debian/changelog as x.y-z-mytag, but that failed with "Debian revision ('mytag') doesn't contain any digits" Where is the right place to do this? |
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| 15:27.06 | BucWheat | do you not remember me asking about comedi a month or two ago ? |
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| 15:27.25 | BucWheat | PerfDave remember we kept getting errors when we tried modules assistant? |
| 15:27.34 | greycat | PerfDave: well, first he claimed that the *untarring* failed, then he claimed that it didn't fail, then he claimed that you can't build comedi with m-a, then when we proved him wrong *again*, he claimed it wasn't New Enough. |
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| 15:27.39 | PerfDave | BucWheat: No, I don't remember. It was fucking months ago. There's a lot of traffic in #debian. |
| 15:27.58 | PerfDave | BucWheat: Anyway, has a new version of comedi-source not appeared in the last two months? Did you submit a bug for it? |
| 15:28.11 | obtix | i have a dual ethernet card... in my kernel i bonded the cards (i am not sure if that matters for this problem)... i have my settings correct in my /etc/resolv.conf and my network settings right but when the two ethernet cards go up they can not resolve hostnames/domains if i "pump" eth0 i get full use (but not the right ip) if i then bring down eth0 eth1 which is static magicly sees domain names |
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| 15:28.14 | greycat | !info comedi-source sid |
| 15:28.15 | BucWheat | greycat i meant the untarring of kernel-source and trying to use that alone to install comedi does not work |
| 15:28.27 | dpkg | comedi-source: (Comedi kernel module source), section admin, is extra. Version: 0.7.70-1 (sid), Packaged size: 712 kB, Installed size: 776 kB |
| 15:28.28 | BucWheat | greycat you have to compile a kernel and then install comedi |
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| 15:29.01 | greycat | BucWheat: and how does version 0.7.70 fail to suit your demanding needs? |
| 15:29.10 | BucWheat | now keep in mind they could have fixed something from version 0.7.68 |
| 15:29.15 | BucWheat | and 3.1 rc3 |
| 15:29.29 | greycat | !info comedi-source sarge |
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| 15:29.36 | BucWheat | two months ago when i installed the only option was 7.68 |
| 15:29.40 | dpkg | comedi-source: (Comedi kernel module source), section admin, is extra. Version: 0.7.70-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 712 kB, Installed size: 776 kB |
| 15:29.48 | BucWheat | .70 is the latest so they may have fixed the modules assistant issue |
| 15:29.59 | PerfDave | BucWheat: Did you file a bug against comedi-source saying that it was too old for what you were trying to do? |
| 15:30.04 | greycat | does 0.7.70 *work* or *not*? |
| 15:30.04 | greycat | so use it! |
| 15:30.13 | drp | Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5 but it is not installable or |
| 15:30.20 | drp | java2-runtime but it is not installable |
| 15:30.21 | abrocadabro | obtix: how many card(s) do you have? |
| 15:30.23 | PerfDave | drp: /msg dpkg java |
| 15:30.28 | drp | do I need to use make-jpkg to install sun-j2sdk1.5 and java2-runtim |
| 15:30.33 | BucWheat | PerfDave it allows you to use data acquisition cards in linux. it is basically a driver for data acquisition cards |
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| 15:30.37 | greycat | PerfDave: apparently he's too late... they already upgraded it from upstream. |
| 15:30.37 | greycat | PerfDave: so he's just whining about shit that happened months ago for no reason |
| 15:30.37 | BadMan | tneed some nvidia gl help, I have "glitches" while playing games or when gl screensavers run... don't see any hard disk interruptions like its looking for something... any ideas? |
| 15:31.03 | directhex|work | drp, /msg dpkg non-free sources |
| 15:31.19 | obtix | abrocadabro: i have two cards.. but they sit on one pci card (its one of those intel eepro server cards) |
| 15:31.40 | BadMan | drp: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch11.html |
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| 15:31.46 | PerfDave | BucWheat: Forget trying to compile your own kernel, try module-assistant with comedi-source, and file bugs if you can't get it to work. |
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| 15:32.18 | BadMan | drp: I used that it works flawlessly as long as you get the package names correct following the how to |
| 15:32.36 | BucWheat | PerfDave ok. let me get my notes on it from last time |
| 15:32.39 | drp | thanks PerfDave directhex|work and BadMan |
| 15:32.45 | BadMan | nop |
| 15:33.37 | abrocadabro | obtix: if I am having both wireless and ethernet card up, either of them work, unless you are bridging them, they seem to conflict if coexist |
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| 15:34.29 | obtix | abrocadabro: no, because they work great if they both get from dhcp |
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| 15:35.43 | abrocadabro | ortix: didn't you say "when the two ethernet cards go up they can not resolve hostnames/domains"? |
| 15:36.21 | BucWheat | PerfDave how do i use modules-assistant? i think i deleted my notes on it after it didn't work :( silly me |
| 15:36.59 | EdibleText | obtix, you have bonded the interfaces? why are you using eth0. you should be using bond0 or somesuch |
| 15:37.00 | abrocadabro | obtix: maybe you need to specify the right gateway to both cards, with dhcp you are getting the right gateway as well |
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| 15:38.41 | Justin | obtix: um, where do these cards actually plug in to? |
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| 15:39.18 | doub | BucWheat: pretty straightforward, just launch it and follow the menus |
| 15:39.55 | doub | BucWheat: you can use it directly at command line, too. see man module-assistant for details |
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| 15:40.19 | BucWheat | i get warning saying /usr/src/<kernel> contains unconfigured kernel |
| 15:40.26 | BucWheat | just ignore and move on? |
| 15:40.36 | yuber | currently make World @my p4 3ghz |
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| 15:40.41 | yuber | x.org |
| 15:40.42 | yuber | hrhr |
| 15:40.59 | EdibleText | !confuse yuber |
| 15:41.00 | doub | BucWheat: try 'module-assistant prepare' and re run |
| 15:41.00 | dpkg | No, who is their mushroom tomorrow, yuber? breeches of the people's republic of tibet with extra crabpaste |
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| 15:41.21 | BucWheat | k |
| 15:41.50 | PerfDave | BucWheat: Boot into a Debian-provided kernel, and type "module-assistant auto-install comedi-source" and follow the instructions. |
| 15:42.02 | BucWheat | k |
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| 15:43.10 | BucWheat | doesn't work i think i'm going to have to use the prepare command as it gripes about not having kernel headers |
| 15:43.17 | jhe7574 | I know this is a bit off topic, but does can anybody tell me how to identify myself so I can join #freebsd? |
| 15:43.27 | abrotman | jhe7574: /msg nickserv help |
| 15:43.29 | BucWheat | let me try it with -k option |
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| 15:44.06 | jhe7574 | abrotman: Thanks very much. |
| 15:44.06 | directhex|work | BucWheat, what does uname -r say? |
| 15:44.21 | khayrat | ... |
| 15:44.30 | BucWheat | directhex|work 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 15:44.51 | directhex|work | BucWheat, apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) ? |
| 15:44.51 | doub | khayrat: if you're trying to make a point, that's not convincing |
| 15:45.05 | BucWheat | PerfDave i get this error now: /usr/share/modass/packages/comedi-source: line 58: debian/rules: No such file or directory |
| 15:45.10 | BucWheat | comedi-source build failed |
| 15:45.22 | BucWheat | looks like it is still broken |
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| 15:45.47 | obtix | EdibleText: why should it be bond0? |
| 15:45.59 | abrotman | heh |
| 15:46.03 | janka | Yeah, just tried out installing and configuring FreeBSD, well, maybe it is something good, but... learning all commands anew, harder installing, less supported programs, i better choose Debian. |
| 15:46.06 | directhex|work | BucWheat, that's a major bug. reportbug time |
| 15:46.28 | BucWheat | this will be my first bug report :) where do i go ? |
| 15:46.41 | abrotman | !d-i janka |
| 15:46.42 | dpkg | janka, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:47.09 | obtix | EdibleText: i just typed ifconfig bond0 up and something came up, no setting or anything but its up... any documentation on bonding two ethernet cards? |
| 15:47.28 | doub | BucWheat: maybe try reportbug |
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| 15:47.45 | PerfDave | BucWheat: http://bugs.debian.org/ to see if it's been reported, if not then "apt-get install reportbug; reportbug comedi-source" |
| 15:47.45 | khayrat | quit |
| 15:47.48 | EdibleText | obtix, you create an interface; then bond 'real' interfaces to it with the ifenslave tool |
| 15:48.22 | yuber | in what package is the c++ binary? |
| 15:48.29 | EdibleText | obtix, less Documentation/networking/bonding.txt in any supported kernel-source |
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| 15:48.56 | abrotman | oor find it online |
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| 15:49.03 | abrotman | yuber: what distro are oyu using ? |
| 15:49.23 | obtix | EdibleText: thank you.. i will look it up now HEH |
| 15:49.25 | EdibleText | obtix, once enslaved to the bond0 interface you can treat it like most other network interfaces. |
| 15:49.40 | yuber | sarge |
| 15:49.48 | yuber | abrotman |
| 15:49.50 | De_Mon | Does anyone know the story behind /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/ ? |
| 15:49.59 | abrotman | !b-e yuber |
| 15:50.00 | dpkg | yuber: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 15:50.07 | abrotman | De_Mon: the story? |
| 15:50.27 | De_Mon | abrotman how bin got into /usr/lib |
| 15:50.35 | yuber | sid goes long time unstable :> so i dont want it |
| 15:50.41 | yuber | on my notebook ist sid |
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| 15:50.49 | abrotman | yuber: good thinking .. |
| 15:50.51 | yuber | ago 1 year |
| 15:51.42 | abrotman | De_Mon: you could ask the maintainer |
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| 15:52.24 | De_Mon | I'm about to, thought someone else might have done it already |
| 15:52.43 | De_Mon | abrotman doesn't it strike you a little odd? |
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| 15:53.14 | abrotman | De_Mon: no way .. i found a binary in /etc/ once :) |
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| 15:54.38 | asg | abrotman: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 268 2004-04-24 17:40 /etc/rmt |
| 15:54.39 | De_Mon | -chuckles- |
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| 15:56.25 | abrotman | asg: hylafax bins |
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| 15:56.44 | veleno | how do i convert a html file to pdf ? |
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| 16:00.09 | cahoot | veleno: print to file in firefox f ex |
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| 16:00.19 | janka | dpkg: i am already creating an image with jigdo - do not know wich version is in it |
| 16:00.19 | dpkg | janka: what are you talking about? |
| 16:00.27 | doub | veleno: with html2pdf or htmltopdf, don't remember. but the result is ugly |
| 16:00.35 | streuner | janka: dpkg is a bot |
| 16:00.41 | janka | ah |
| 16:00.48 | janka | hehe |
| 16:00.51 | bdlug66 | how to reconfigure cdrom option |
| 16:01.01 | bdlug66 | hell |
| 16:01.03 | bdlug66 | i am not |
| 16:01.06 | bdlug66 | i am human |
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| 16:01.16 | bdlug66 | my name is pasha is taked by some one |
| 16:01.25 | bdlug66 | and so i change my nick and then give /me |
| 16:01.27 | bdlug66 | :( |
| 16:01.30 | bdlug66 | any way |
| 16:01.41 | bdlug66 | some time ago i give dpkg-reconfigure -a |
| 16:01.43 | bdlug66 | all |
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| 16:01.52 | PerfDave | !tell bdlug66 -about enter |
| 16:01.54 | bdlug66 | then it shows me cdrom option to auto |
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| 16:02.16 | bdlug66 | i give yes |
| 16:02.24 | bdlug66 | but now i can't mount anythin in cdrom |
| 16:02.31 | bdlug66 | how to reconfigure it |
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| 16:02.58 | IDC | has anyone done installing 2 sound card at the same time on linux ? |
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| 16:03.15 | hulu | how to not have error messages spitting out on all consoles? |
| 16:03.23 | asg | abrotman: ewww, nasty |
| 16:03.23 | doub | IDC: alsa deals with those without much trouble |
| 16:03.30 | greycat | hulu: by default, they don't. |
| 16:03.33 | greycat | hulu: /msg dpkg klogd |
| 16:03.38 | IDC | doub, hmm |
| 16:04.19 | doub | IDC: the only problem being to tell your program which card to use |
| 16:04.47 | IDC | doub, can i simple diactive either one in linux with alsa ? |
| 16:05.14 | doub | IDC: just don't load the driver for the card you don't want |
| 16:05.22 | IDC | i mean,for the truth my current card has problem in using alsa..but im sure my another card will be fine cuz its only a 2 sound channels card |
| 16:05.51 | IDC | cool |
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| 16:06.13 | IDC | I will try this tomorrow, thanks doub |
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| 16:07.30 | IDC | doub, how about this...since im sure my current one doesnt really work with alsa,without plugging it out after i install another one i simply in kernel remove the current one add another one ,better idea ? |
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| 16:08.07 | IDC | doub, i mean,my current one works perfect on windows,dual-boot OS. |
| 16:08.27 | doub | IDC: i don't quite get what you mean, but just unload the driver for your non-working card |
| 16:08.38 | hulu | the klogd factoid is not exactly correct. i think it is better to edit /etc/default/klogd than /etc/init.d/klogd |
| 16:08.39 | IDC | yup,will do that |
| 16:08.43 | doub | IDC: also be shure to check mixer levels, alsa's default is all muted |
| 16:08.56 | IDC | done that many times |
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| 16:10.21 | coll | is licq or sim not in any of my apts soucre.list for a reason? |
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| 16:11.18 | asg | hulu: it is correct for woody |
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| 16:12.46 | asg | hulu: hmmm, do you have an /etc/default/klogd? |
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| 16:14.47 | tombs | hi ppl |
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| 16:19.33 | MidgetARG | Hey guys, when I go to change my resolution in GNOME it only lists up to 1024. I have added the others in dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and restarted gdm but still the options are only up to 1024. where do I add higher resolutions? |
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| 16:21.12 | lef | I have exim running properly on my system but there is no exim4.conf...just exim4.conf.template. WHich file do I need to edit to change configuration settings? |
| 16:21.53 | asg | lef: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config (don't choose the split setting) |
| 16:22.17 | asg | lef: also, exim4 will use an exim4.conf if one is placed in /etc/exim4/ |
| 16:22.21 | xmath | any tips on how I might get a laptop (P4M 2.20GHz, debian unstable) to run cooler? it's at 0.15 cpu load average and the fan keeps turning on briefly every once in a while. on off on off on off.. very annoying :-/ |
| 16:22.46 | xmath | less cpu performance would be just fine, but I don't know if that's supported and if so how to do it |
| 16:22.48 | asg | xmath: try powernowd with cpufreq |
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| 16:23.27 | dopeic | from cardmgr |
| 16:23.34 | dopeic | can someone tell me how I can axx this card? |
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| 16:24.25 | lef | asg, in /etc/exim4/ there is no exim4.conf. It uses the update-exim4.conf.conf for apparently |
| 16:24.43 | IDC | night,all,bye |
| 16:24.44 | lef | and there is also exim4.com.template |
| 16:24.44 | asg | lef: yes, /usr/share/doc/exim4* explains things |
| 16:24.51 | nkuttler | i want to insert 50MB of zeros into an 8G file. any suggestions? |
| 16:24.57 | lef | asg, thank you :) |
| 16:25.05 | xmath | asg: hmm, looks like I'll have to compile a fresh kernel.. "Starting powernowd: required sysfs objects not found!" |
| 16:25.08 | greycat | nkuttler: in the *middle*? |
| 16:25.13 | nkuttler | greycat: yes |
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| 16:25.30 | asg | xmath: if you have a custom one, yes. Otherwise, the std debian 2.6 kernels will work (dunno about 2.4.x) |
| 16:25.38 | greycat | nkuttler: read the first part of the 8GB file, then read 50 MB worth of /dev/zero, then read the rest of the 8 GB file. Write it all to a new file. |
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| 16:25.41 | xmath | asg: odd, I have a standard one |
| 16:25.50 | asg | xmath: 2.6 or 2.4? |
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| 16:26.14 | greycat | nkuttler: { dd ...; dd ...; dd ...; } > newfile |
| 16:26.15 | xmath | 2.6.10 |
| 16:26.32 | asg | xmath: no sysfs listed in 'df -a' ? |
| 16:26.34 | nkuttler | greycat: ah, yes. thanks. i obviously didn't think about dd |
| 16:27.28 | EdibleText | nkuttler, you could also use the 'skip' option with dd |
| 16:27.28 | xmath | asg: sysfs is there alright |
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| 16:28.09 | asg | xmath: you might need to modprobe 'cpufreq_userspace, speedstep_centrio, and processor' |
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| 16:28.35 | nkuttler | EdibleText: thanks, just reading that man page again |
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| 16:29.09 | martin-H | hi everybody |
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| 16:29.38 | martin-H | any linex/debian user? |
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| 16:29.47 | greycat | !linex |
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| 16:30.03 | martin-H | hey cat |
| 16:30.05 | LoRez | martin-H: the only reason people would be in this channel is because they use debian. |
| 16:30.12 | Gwildor | lol |
| 16:30.13 | martin-H | i use debian |
| 16:30.24 | LoRez | either that or to troll |
| 16:30.31 | martin-H | but, man, not everybody uses debian uses linex |
| 16:30.31 | greycat | dpkg, linex is a Spanish Linux distribution which is based on Debian (see <based on debian>). |
| 16:30.31 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 16:30.48 | martin-H | yes cat |
| 16:30.55 | LoRez | martin-H: I don't know what line-x spray-in bedliners have to do with linux or debian |
| 16:31.04 | streuner | martin-H: use the full nickname, thanks. |
| 16:31.16 | martin-H | hmm, streuner dont be so |
| 16:31.17 | asg | LoRez: maybe the control system for spraying them on is a debian box running woody |
| 16:31.19 | martin-H | :P |
| 16:31.26 | LoRez | and this channel doesn't support derivitaves, try #linex |
| 16:31.31 | LoRez | asg: cute |
| 16:31.33 | martin-H | hey hey |
| 16:31.44 | martin-H | so unkind man |
| 16:31.48 | greycat | and if there's nobody in #linex, hey, you're the op! |
| 16:31.49 | asg | LoRez: you never know |
| 16:31.57 | martin-H | hehe greenfly |
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| 16:32.00 | martin-H | oopps |
| 16:32.04 | xmath | asg: I don't think this is a centrino |
| 16:32.05 | martin-H | hehe greycat |
| 16:32.17 | asg | xmath: mine isn't either but that worked for me |
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| 16:32.30 | asg | xmath: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz |
| 16:32.41 | xmath | asg: this is P4M, not PM |
| 16:32.53 | martin-H | hmm, has anybody experienced keyboard problems in login with kde 3.3? |
| 16:33.05 | asg | xmath: okay, well see if some of the other cpufreq* modules might work. |
| 16:33.07 | xmath | asg: and more relevantly, the module doesn't load :-) |
| 16:33.08 | xmath | ok |
| 16:33.24 | asg | xmath: tuxmobile.org may also have user testimonials regarding your particular laptop. |
| 16:33.46 | martin-H | which laptop? |
| 16:33.58 | doub | martin-H: check the bug tracking system. if nothing is reported, chances are you're on the wrong BTS |
| 16:34.02 | martin-H | if a compag presario i can help |
| 16:34.13 | xmath | fujitsu something.. lemme check |
| 16:34.47 | martin-H | hmm, doub, i have seen people reporting the same problem, but no solution. |
| 16:35.03 | martin-H | amilo |
| 16:35.25 | xmath | lifebook C ... I think 1020 but not sure |
| 16:35.45 | martin-H | sorry, no information about that one |
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| 16:37.34 | exerd | Hi i need a url to a site that helps me configure the look of my promt. |
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| 16:38.02 | asg | exerd: what shell do you use? |
| 16:38.03 | nkuttler | exerd: google "$SHELL prompt" |
| 16:38.29 | exerd | sorry im a newbie how do i know what promt i use? |
| 16:38.45 | smudge8 | i love gentoo! |
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| 16:38.49 | streuner | exerd: or tldp.org - BASH-HOWTO or such |
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| 16:39.16 | martin-H | xmath, look here: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/fujitsu.html |
| 16:39.29 | streuner | smudge8: troll somewhere else |
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| 16:39.36 | exerd | ok tnx how do i know what promt i use? |
| 16:39.43 | asg | exerd: echo $SHELL |
| 16:40.09 | andre | /nickserv register ammv curitybasiraig ammv@brturbo.com.br |
| 16:40.18 | asg | andre: oops |
| 16:40.24 | EdibleText | heh |
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| 16:40.27 | exerd | asg, i get /bin/bash |
| 16:40.28 | andre | ohehe |
| 16:40.39 | asg | exerd: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/ |
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| 16:41.29 | exerd | asg, tnx what is gnome terminal? because i think its what i use |
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| 16:41.46 | AchillesHeel | why is aptitude so shit/ |
| 16:41.47 | AchillesHeel | ? |
| 16:41.49 | asg | exerd: a gui container for a bash login shell |
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| 16:41.55 | streuner | !info gnome-terminal |
| 16:41.58 | dpkg | gnome-terminal: (The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.8.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 1792 kB, Installed size: 7924 kB |
| 16:42.08 | asg | AchillesHeel: ask the person who wrote it |
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| 16:44.19 | priest | which is the best portscaner detection in debian stable? |
| 16:44.30 | trand | c u later |
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| 16:44.40 | asg | priest: snort usually does a good job |
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| 16:44.58 | priest | asg: can it see slow portscans too? |
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| 16:45.40 | asg | priest: it depends on how slow, but probably not. |
| 16:45.46 | Richie086 | some IDS's have probs with really slow port scans due to the fact that it wont look like a port scan if it is spanned out over a long time |
| 16:46.04 | asg | priest: apt-cache search portscan (some other tools there might be better for such things.) |
| 16:46.06 | priest | mm.. ok |
| 16:46.42 | Richie086 | but if someone is port scanning your really super slow you got another problem on ur hands cuz your definatley a target for whatever reason |
| 16:46.52 | asg | priest: looks like portsentry is a good fit |
| 16:46.53 | Richie086 | you* |
| 16:47.20 | Richie086 | youd be better off blocking that suspicious host or maybe even a range of hosts.. |
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| 16:48.03 | yoc | how to read foo.pdf.gz file? |
| 16:48.13 | greycat | yoc: gunzip, xpdf |
| 16:48.22 | yoc | greycat, I'd like to use gunzip -c |
| 16:48.34 | Richie086 | huh |
| 16:48.36 | exerd | hmm can i make the promt background transparent? |
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| 16:48.39 | Richie086 | try -d |
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| 16:48.47 | yoc | greycat, can I do it by pipe? |
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| 16:49.03 | Richie086 | -c will create or something wont it... or does it cat? |
| 16:49.08 | Richie086 | or something else? |
| 16:49.24 | yoc | greycat, ? |
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| 16:50.05 | yoc | greycat, i like something like zcat |
| 16:50.09 | mysurfguide | Anybody any good with apache? |
| 16:50.20 | asg | yoc: yes but xpdf doesn't read from stdin |
| 16:50.25 | asg | mysurfguide: #apache of course |
| 16:50.34 | mysurfguide | their all asleep asg lol |
| 16:50.39 | mysurfguide | im in there |
| 16:50.45 | Richie086 | hehe yeah ive ran into that myself surfguide |
| 16:50.48 | xmath | asg: p4-clockmod seems to work |
| 16:50.52 | EdibleText | yoc, its a pdf... what would you use to read it? |
| 16:50.53 | asg | xmath: cool |
| 16:50.56 | mysurfguide | ah got response:D |
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| 16:51.17 | yoc | EdibleText, acroread or xpdf, but neither read from stdin |
| 16:51.25 | yoc | asg acroread or xpdf, but neither read from stdin |
| 16:51.31 | xmath | .+ban *!*@omet.measureteaching.pitt.edu new 0day-bans trading |
| 16:51.31 | asg | yoc: then zcat it to somewhere in /tmp ; read it ; delete afterwards |
| 16:51.33 | xmath | oops |
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| 16:51.34 | xmath | ww |
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| 16:51.53 | yoc | asg, that's not convinent |
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| 16:52.11 | lethal_ | hi, my hda1 partition is ext3, but cfdisk says its fat32, why does this happen? parted and mount say its ext3 |
| 16:52.11 | asg | yoc: then write a script to make it convenient |
| 16:52.19 | asg | yoc: this is Unix, that's how we do things. |
| 16:52.33 | ix | I would rather say MINIX. |
| 16:52.44 | yoc | asg, does zcat use tmpfile too? |
| 16:52.59 | dfzi | fuck this, openoffice opens but cannot print this .xls document :// |
| 16:53.08 | dfzi | and it's rather important.. an application to university :] |
| 16:53.10 | EdibleText | yoc, write 'zxpdf' which does what asg suggested |
| 16:53.15 | asg | yoc: no, it just decompresses the input and shoots it to stdout |
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| 16:53.19 | EdibleText | yoc, small script |
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| 16:54.21 | yoc | ok, can I gunzip foo.gz into bar, instead of foo ? EdibleText |
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| 16:54.47 | greycat | yoc: gzip -dc foo.gz > bar |
| 16:54.49 | yoc | -c + > could do that |
| 16:55.03 | yoc | greycat, yeah |
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| 16:55.09 | xmath | asg: okay, thanks again |
| 16:55.10 | xmath | bye |
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| 16:55.30 | elirips | hello people. It OT, but anyway: Does somebody know if there exists any kind of adapter that allow me to attach a serial-device at a parallel-port? |
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| 16:56.35 | asg | yoc: well, xpdf-reader contains a zxpdf command |
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| 16:56.43 | EdibleText | heh |
| 16:56.53 | EdibleText | !find zxpdf |
| 16:56.57 | antony | anyone using sarge bugzilla? i'm gettting errors like mkdir /var/cache/bugzilla/template//var: Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/Template/Provider.pm line 398 |
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| 16:57.03 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'zxpdf' (1): (/usr/bin/zxpdf) in text/xpdf-reader. |
| 16:57.03 | asg | EdibleText: it's just a schell script |
| 16:57.15 | asg | s/schell/shell/ |
| 16:57.19 | EdibleText | double heh |
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| 16:59.44 | doub | elirips: i bet you can find such a converter to build yourself on the internet |
| 16:59.44 | Orangey | hey all! |
| 16:59.52 | doub | elirips: google for it |
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| 17:00.03 | Orangey | anyone here use oooqs ? It seems the debian packages are setup to make it work with 1.1.x, but not 2.x |
| 17:00.16 | davidw | hey - is there something funky with mozilla-firefox in testing or is it just me? |
| 17:00.51 | elirips | doub: thanks, unfortunatly i did not find anything usefull till now with googling.. maybe its easier just setting up another computer that still has seriel-ports.. |
| 17:00.54 | Gathond | elirips: but you might be able to do it in software, if you can get the parallel port driver to send data by using just one connector |
| 17:01.18 | greycat | davidw: bugs.debian.org/mozilla-firefox |
| 17:01.41 | doub | elirips: you can also buy an add-in pci card with serial ports |
| 17:01.49 | davidw | greycat: yes, the thought had crossed my mind... but this is noticeable - you can't view source, bookmark or much else |
| 17:02.01 | davidw | so it would be something that a lot of people would have seen |
| 17:02.10 | Gathond | elirips: you can get USB to rs232 dongles |
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| 17:03.57 | furrywolf | grr. worthless firefox has died again. |
| 17:04.04 | Gianmaria | Hi there, any of you had a problem in starting tftpd server? I get recvfrom: Socket operation on non-socke |
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| 17:04.19 | nksen | anyone used flex? all fine, but I dunno how to match "' '" or any other letter than whitespace. after that, i have to pass the ascii-value to an int. 'int i = atoi(yytext)' seems not to work in this context |
| 17:04.32 | elirips | doub: hm, thinks that's the easiest way. going to search for a pcmcia-card that can do that... but how to know that my sarge with kernel 2.6.10 will also support that? |
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| 17:04.55 | exerd | hi i did xterm -fn <fontname> to change the fon in xterm but how do i make the changes stay? everytime i start the promt? |
| 17:05.02 | furrywolf | and, of course, tab extensions lost my tabs AGAIN... |
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| 17:05.54 | doub | elirips: i dont know. i think it would be easier to find usb to serial dongles that Gathond mentionned earlier |
| 17:06.06 | doub | elirips: but again, no idea about linux support |
| 17:06.19 | doub | elirips: see the hardware howto |
| 17:06.31 | aveng0 | exerd: look for Xresources howtos |
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| 17:06.52 | aveng0 | exerd: for example http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=xterm+Xresources+fonts&btnG=Search&meta= |
| 17:07.19 | elephant | What is the good way to add PhoneOverIp on an existing network manager by with a debian router/server |
| 17:07.20 | elephant | ? |
| 17:07.33 | doub | nksen: isn't yytext a char* ? i bet atoi is for char |
| 17:07.37 | elephant | network manager = network managed |
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| 17:07.39 | grendal_prime | ummm...look as asterisk |
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| 17:07.51 | grendal_prime | its an all in one pbx... |
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| 17:08.05 | grendal_prime | elephant, that was directed at you |
| 17:08.06 | exerd | aveng0, tnx |
| 17:08.06 | elirips | doub: thanks anyway for your help. |
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| 17:08.23 | doub | nksen: if you want to convert just the first char, use atoi(*yytext) |
| 17:08.28 | grendal_prime | there are several phoneover ip solotions that are open source.. |
| 17:08.31 | elephant | grendal_prime: ok thanx |
| 17:08.38 | grendal_prime | ill be doing a few myself soon |
| 17:08.42 | Zeus | de |
| 17:08.50 | grendal_prime | the biggest thing is the linux router gateway though |
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| 17:09.05 | doub | nksen: my bad, atoi uses char* |
| 17:09.08 | grendal_prime | i mean if you already have that in place and at each location, your pretty well set. |
| 17:09.31 | grendal_prime | just need a fatty pipe |
| 17:09.44 | grendal_prime | well its nice if you have a fatty pipe... |
| 17:09.51 | elephant | grendal_prime: yes all my network is already set - with a debian server/router |
| 17:10.11 | elephant | what do u mean by "fat pipe" ? |
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| 17:11.26 | abrotman | !u |
| 17:11.27 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 17:13.54 | manchu | I'm having difficulty removing an old pkg from debian testing... anyone feel like helping out? it's libapache-mod-dtcl |
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| 17:14.06 | rapi | hello |
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| 17:14.48 | mohamed_ | hi |
| 17:15.25 | mohamed_ | hello everyboday |
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| 17:15.35 | Rawplayer | go away |
| 17:16.14 | rapi | someones use EXIM? |
| 17:16.16 | furrywolf | rawplayer: did I miss something? |
| 17:16.21 | abrotman | tarzeau: we suck |
| 17:16.36 | abrotman | #exim does |
| 17:16.52 | abrotman | rapi: just ask your question .. if it's too advanced for us .. we'll send you to #exim |
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| 17:17.04 | rapi | abrotman, yes i have already asked |
| 17:17.15 | exerd | <stdin>:29: invalid preprocessing directive #xterm i get it when doing xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources whats wrong? |
| 17:17.17 | rapi | abrotman, ok ... |
| 17:17.18 | mngrif_ | anyone know how well Diablo II works in standard wine? |
| 17:17.33 | rapi | R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host ==> this is error in mainlog |
| 17:17.35 | furrywolf | mngrif: I'd guess not at all, but I don't know. |
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| 17:17.55 | doub | exerd: maybe you should not begin the line with #, which is interpretated as a cpp directive |
| 17:18.00 | Jeo | hi all, i am using the apache2... I put index.php index.cgi index.phtml in the right place, but i need to write the file in the url to call it |
| 17:18.04 | mngrif | furrywolf: apparently it works, it's just the whole directx thing that worries me.. i'm not in the mood to deal with cedega cvs |
| 17:18.05 | doub | exerd: like #define or #include |
| 17:18.22 | Jeo | what could be wrong? |
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| 17:18.51 | furrywolf | jeo: add index.php or whatever to the list of index files? |
| 17:19.02 | Jeo | furrywolf, yes |
| 17:19.15 | Jeo | type as well |
| 17:19.27 | Jeo | if i write the whole url then works |
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| 17:19.48 | Jeo | if i put, local.debian/ it does'nt |
| 17:20.07 | Jeo | if local.debian/index.php then works |
| 17:20.08 | Jeo | ? |
| 17:21.00 | Jeo | the configuration is within the apache2.conf |
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| 17:21.27 | Jeo | DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.php3 |
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| 17:21.46 | Jeo | I guess just index.html works |
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| 17:22.10 | Schnitz | hi all |
| 17:23.53 | ricky_clarkson | Hi. I'm trying to mount my USB MP3 player but mount says sda1 is not a valid block device. dmesg sees it. |
| 17:23.53 | ricky_clarkson | Any suggestions? |
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| 17:24.01 | Jeo | humm... maybe is the virtualhost configuration |
| 17:24.42 | Jeo | could it be? I created a folder test, create a index.php and it works... |
| 17:25.07 | Jeo | but where I am calling from a virtualhost it doesnt |
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| 17:26.52 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson are you using devfs? |
| 17:26.57 | ricky_clarkson | Not that I know of. |
| 17:27.10 | cahoot | ricky_clarkson: don't happen to have ub loaded/enabled? if so look at /dev/ub |
| 17:27.24 | ricky_clarkson | ls: /dev/ub: No such file or directory |
| 17:27.27 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson well when you unplug/plug in your device, check the logs to see if it loads a module or something |
| 17:27.44 | kingsley | Would anyone with GIMP care to try to duplicate a bug that crashes X? |
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| 17:28.03 | ricky_clarkson | usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using address 2 \n Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... \n scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices \n usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 2 |
| 17:28.11 | cahoot | ricky_clarkson: that doesn't really say if ub is loaded or not |
| 17:28.12 | ricky_clarkson | The \ns are newlines. |
| 17:28.25 | aveng0 | cahoot what is ub |
| 17:28.33 | ricky_clarkson | cahoot: I don't know how I can look at a non-existent device node. |
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| 17:29.08 | cahoot | aveng0: a slow interface for usb devices |
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| 17:29.42 | ricky_clarkson | drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usbfs \n drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hub |
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| 17:30.18 | cahoot | aveng0: AKA blk_dev_ub |
| 17:30.28 | ricky_clarkson | ohci_hcd 0000:00:03.1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (#2) \n ohci_hcd 0000:00:03.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 \n hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found \n hub 2-0:1.0: 3 ports detected |
| 17:30.31 | aveng0 | cahoot: ah |
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| 17:31.07 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson: ok, it looks fine, which mount parameters are you using |
| 17:31.26 | ricky_clarkson | /dev/sda1 /usb1 vfat noauto,user 0 0 |
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| 17:32.12 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson try mount /dev/sda1 /usb1 |
| 17:32.15 | aveng0 | from the cmd line |
| 17:32.29 | ricky_clarkson | mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
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| 17:33.53 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson what is in your /dev/scsi directory |
| 17:34.30 | ricky_clarkson | aveng0: It doesn't exist. |
| 17:34.30 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson k, do you have usbview? |
| 17:34.30 | ricky_clarkson | aveng0: Yes. |
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| 17:34.30 | jharrisonwk | I did not know that the british secret service made chipsets |
| 17:34.30 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson does it show your device? |
| 17:34.30 | ricky_clarkson | aveng0: I don't think so. |
| 17:34.30 | ricky_clarkson | aveng0: It shows 3 hub-like things. |
| 17:34.30 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson oh, well usually when you have a usb device plugged into a hub a drop down menu appears |
| 17:34.31 | K_Dallas | Hi guys! What package should I install to get Java JRE (under srage)? thanks |
| 17:34.31 | manchu | ok, with the libapache-mod-dtcl's post-removal script, I get "sed: -e expression #1, char 34: invalid reference \1 on `s' command's RHS" ... can anyone point me to where I can find and fix that sed line? |
| 17:34.45 | ricky_clarkson | Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller, then the same thing with 1.0, marked #2, then the same thing without the #2 |
| 17:34.46 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson what is your device? |
| 17:34.51 | asg | K_Dallas: /msg dpkg install java |
| 17:34.53 | ricky_clarkson | aveng0: mpman MP3 player. |
| 17:34.59 | K_Dallas | thanks asg |
| 17:35.10 | PerfDave | K_Dallas: If you want Sun's non-free Java, "/msg dpkg java". Otherwise look at free-java-sdk et al. |
| 17:35.52 | K_Dallas | PerfDave, i am trying to install openoffice beta2 with java support |
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| 17:36.02 | K_Dallas | i wouldnt mind sun's version |
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| 17:36.26 | K_Dallas | msg dpkg java |
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| 17:36.33 | ricky_clarkson | K_Dallas: / |
| 17:36.37 | K_Dallas | yeap ;) |
| 17:37.06 | PerfDave | K_Dallas: There was conversation here about how well OO2 would work with Free java implementations. It looks like they might have to split the functionality between main and contrib when packaging it for Debian :/ |
| 17:37.24 | K_Dallas | i see |
| 17:38.29 | ricky_clarkson | It probably affects things that Sun Microsystems contributes to OpenOrifice. |
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| 17:38.30 | K_Dallas | probably and that is a shame |
| 17:38.30 | Gwildor | RuffianSoldier |
| 17:38.30 | asg | Pillock |
| 17:38.30 | K_Dallas | they should not restrict the use of OO if they want it to be a serious competition |
| 17:38.30 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson: what kernel are you using? |
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| 17:38.33 | ricky_clarkson | 2.6.5 |
| 17:38.37 | K_Dallas | Q2: How do i change the sensitivity of my mouse? thanks |
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| 17:38.40 | PerfDave | They also shouldn't restrict use of Java, but that's another can of worms. |
| 17:38.42 | asg | K_Dallas: man xset |
| 17:38.49 | K_Dallas | thank you again |
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| 17:39.15 | directhex | PerfDave, my understanding is it almost works finr with bleeding edge Free java, as witnessed by somre builds for fedora core 4 |
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| 17:39.23 | broeder | hi |
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| 17:40.00 | broeder | hulu: why do you hate 50 cents ? |
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| 17:40.31 | broeder | apt: wh忖 ? |
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| 17:40.47 | directhex | spezi is root. root on irc is bad(tm) |
| 17:40.54 | directhex | !tell spezi about root |
| 17:41.15 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson: hmm no idea |
| 17:41.15 | K_Dallas | ( i have always wondered why there are so few examples in the man pages? that would have saved tons of reading;) |
| 17:41.24 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson might want to try a different usb device, like usb key |
| 17:41.25 | directhex | !tell K_Dallas about linux man pages |
| 17:41.31 | ricky_clarkson | aveng0: Other devices work fine. |
| 17:41.42 | broeder | !tell directhex about me ripping him a new anus |
| 17:41.52 | directhex | hmph. greycat, did someone eat your linux man pages factoid? |
| 17:41.58 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson has this one ever worked? |
| 17:42.01 | asg | !linux manpages |
| 17:42.03 | dan2 | asg: what exactly do you do for work? |
| 17:42.07 | dan2 | !man |
| 17:42.07 | dpkg | i heard man is a little guy that knows everything about linux... just do man <commandname> and he will teach you all about <commandname>, or http://man.mirrorlynx.com to get online manpages, or mannotincluded.com, or a Municipal Area Network (city), or check ASD @ http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/asd/ |
| 17:42.25 | ricky_clarkson | aveng0: I've never tried it elsewhere. Its non-USB features work anyway. |
| 17:42.37 | Skyblaze | anyone knows about "rhythmbox" patch to display covers? |
| 17:42.39 | asg | dan2: currently, I'm tracking down an infected windows box that seems to want to spew mail to the interweb |
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| 17:43.06 | asg | dan2: in the middle of having our network just lose a router causing some rather interesting instability |
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| 17:43.23 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson what model mpman is it |
| 17:43.25 | dan2 | asg: shutdown the arp tables of boxes you know its not affecting |
| 17:43.38 | asg | dan2: on 5000 machines |
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| 17:43.56 | ricky_clarkson | aveng0: 256 MB. |
| 17:44.02 | dan2 | asg: also monitor the network for machiens consistently hitting interweb |
| 17:44.02 | jharrisonwk | asg: windows boxes always spew mail |
| 17:44.05 | asg | dan2: no, once I find it's location, I'll have a tech go and bang heads. If it's one of ours, we'll just re-image it remotely. |
| 17:44.09 | tub | which is the packet name for GLIBC_2.3 (libc6 packet needs it) |
| 17:44.15 | asg | dan2: of course, that's how I discovered it |
| 17:44.16 | jharrisonwk | :-P |
| 17:44.20 | Zeus | de |
| 17:44.23 | dan2 | asg: heh |
| 17:44.31 | asg | jharrisonwk: probably the new Sober variant. |
| 17:44.41 | jharrisonwk | asg: yeah |
| 17:44.44 | directhex | tub, why are you messing with libc6? |
| 17:44.58 | asg | jharrisonwk, dan2: there we go, that bugger has been taken care of. |
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| 17:45.42 | jharrisonwk | asg: did you pull its connectivity? |
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| 17:45.52 | asg | dan2: we have a pretty aggressive outbound fw policy so the dumb infected boxes are controlled. |
| 17:46.13 | asg | jharrisonwk: I notified a tech who has taken care of the issue. Whether they just dropped it or unplugged it, I don't know yet. |
| 17:46.15 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson: did you search google? |
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| 17:46.25 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson: check out http://mplinuxman.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:46.30 | jharrisonwk | asg: you can limit traffic on the switch level as well |
| 17:46.34 | aveng0 | ricky_clarkson: maybe you can find out from there |
| 17:46.37 | cahoot | ricky_clarkson: grep -i blk_dev_ub /boot/config-`uname -r` - *if* enabled it will hinder access to /dev/sd* |
| 17:46.47 | asg | jharrisonwk: we do QOS throughout already |
| 17:46.53 | jharrisonwk | asg: good stuff |
| 17:47.10 | asg | jharrisonwk: yeah, I'm more concerned about them getting out. |
| 17:48.02 | ricky_clarkson | cahoot: Nada. |
| 17:48.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: we suck what? |
| 17:48.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: did you get an answer? |
| 17:48.02 | jharrisonwk | asg: what firewalling do you guys use? |
| 17:48.02 | abrotman | tarzeau: it's not in this week :( |
| 17:48.02 | abrotman | not that i saw anyways |
| 17:48.03 | asg | jharrisonwk: currently a pix but we are going with 2 redundant Netscreen 500s next week. |
| 17:48.03 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: you suck goatse :-P |
| 17:48.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: i haven't seen anything either, nor in the new one |
| 17:48.03 | abrotman | *sniff* |
| 17:48.03 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: shorewall |
| 17:48.04 | jharrisonwk | asg: nice |
| 17:48.06 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: ? |
| 17:48.15 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: 19:47 < jharrisonwk> asg: what firewalling do you guys use? |
| 17:48.24 | K_Dallas | well, i have asked this before but still having problem with my DSL disconnect time. Idle applications (browsers, etc) tend to disconnect from the internet line while others like xchat continue to work. What parameter(s) should i adjust to prevent that? thanks |
| 17:48.28 | absence | i have a problem with the alsa-source package. after building the "old-fashioned" way (set KVERS, KSRC, debian/rules binary-modules) and installing the resulting deb, i get errors like "FATAL: Error inserting snd_usb_audio (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/updates/alsa/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)" when trying to load most alsa modules. does anyone know what's wrong? |
| 17:48.28 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: i will send you a goatse to your cockburn island! |
| 17:48.31 | asg | jharrisonwk: a lot easier to manage than the pix, that's for sure. |
| 17:48.34 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: hehe |
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| 17:49.26 | jharrisonwk | asg: there are some high end sonicwalls that have some cool features |
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| 17:49.46 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: I have more pictures for you |
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| 17:49.50 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: no women though |
| 17:50.00 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: its hard to find the women on the beach pictures |
| 17:50.04 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: you know what sucks: openoffice, gnome and kde! |
| 17:50.05 | asg | jharrisonwk: yeah, these does some layer7 inspection which is nice. |
| 17:50.13 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: gnome and kde? |
| 17:50.19 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yeah |
| 17:50.24 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: why do you say that? |
| 17:50.37 | furrywolf | tarzeau: nah. firefox sucks worse. :P |
| 17:50.40 | directhex | absence, why are you compiling alsa-source on a 2.6 kernel? |
| 17:50.40 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: because it is the truth, my yedinoob |
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| 17:50.53 | trentbuck | Hi. My alarm clock just went closed-circuit. How do I schedule an at job to make a loud noise at, say, 9am tomorrow? |
| 17:50.57 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: and what is your GUI? tty1? |
| 17:51.00 | tarzeau | furrywolf: you are so right! full ack |
| 17:51.01 | absence | directhex, the alsa in the kernel is too old |
| 17:51.05 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: GNUstep! |
| 17:51.15 | jharrisonwk | I keep hearing about this gnustep |
| 17:51.16 | mysurfguide | hey guys could u check if this site works http://www.mysurfguide.com im having some trubbles |
| 17:51.22 | mysurfguide | i cant check because im on LAN |
| 17:51.23 | asg | trentbuck: turn aumix settings all the way up ; echo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp | at 9 tomorrow |
| 17:51.46 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: you should about try it, http://livecd.gnustep.org |
| 17:51.49 | tarzeau | takatumi: moo |
| 17:51.51 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: where are the screenshots? |
| 17:52.10 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: www.linuks.mine.nu/openstep/ |
| 17:52.13 | trentbuck | jharrisonwk: there aren't any, because GnuStep is fugly :-) |
| 17:52.23 | hulu | damn, i was setting up spong for system monitoring, then i went to their website and saw that there has been no development on it since 2003 |
| 17:52.25 | mysurfguide | anybody could check it for me real quick plz |
| 17:52.25 | trentbuck | feels like OS X, looks like shit :-) |
| 17:52.26 | absence | directhex, any idea what's causing the error? |
| 17:52.36 | mysurfguide | http://www.mysurfguide.com is the url |
| 17:52.39 | tarzeau | trentbuck: bullshit |
| 17:52.44 | hulu | i hate when that happens |
| 17:52.51 | tarzeau | trentbuck: they just look bad because your display is miscalibrated |
| 17:52.53 | trentbuck | tarzeau: hey man, just my opinion. |
| 17:53.01 | jharrisonwk | thats a new word |
| 17:53.03 | jharrisonwk | fugly |
| 17:53.16 | trentbuck | My preferred GUI is GNU Screen. |
| 17:53.32 | mysurfguide | ty anyway |
| 17:53.34 | tarzeau | trentbuck: that's not a GUI you! |
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| 17:53.36 | jharrisonwk | my preferred GUI are tty1-tty6 |
| 17:53.46 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: they are not guis! |
| 17:53.50 | jharrisonwk | and I like the ncurses |
| 17:53.51 | ricky_clarkson | trentbuck: I once worked out how many seconds it was until morning then did: sleep 2000; for i in `seq 1 100` do; eject; eject -t; done |
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| 17:53.57 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: so says you |
| 17:53.57 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: that's not one, either |
| 17:54.00 | furrywolf | my preferred gui is the front panel on my altair. |
| 17:54.08 | ricky_clarkson | fsvo 2000 that is the number of seconds until morning. |
| 17:54.13 | asg | ricky_clarkson: did that start your custom version of Mousetrap going? |
| 17:54.20 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: they have graphics and they interface with me |
| 17:54.24 | trentbuck | ricky_clarkson: heh. But it's a slot drive :-( |
| 17:54.25 | ricky_clarkson | asg: Yes. I'm still trying to escape. |
| 17:54.34 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: and im a user |
| 17:54.42 | asg | ricky_clarkson: ah well, at least you have bandwidth |
| 17:54.46 | furrywolf | (haven't plugged the altair in in 20 years, though...) |
| 17:55.07 | ricky_clarkson | asg: I'm using the trusty IP-over-encoded-screams-for-help protocol though. |
| 17:55.08 | onre | sell it. |
| 17:55.09 | trentbuck | furrywolf: That's a long way to go just do do programming. what about alpha centauri? |
| 17:55.11 | onre | good $$$. |
| 17:55.16 | asg | tarzeau: we'd be worried if you were getting it out of someone elses. |
| 17:55.18 | furrywolf | lol |
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| 17:55.25 | asg | ricky_clarkson: :) |
| 17:55.32 | furrywolf | brb |
| 17:55.38 | asg | ricky_clarkson: not working out too well though |
| 17:55.53 | ricky_clarkson | asg: Streamed video is proving painful. |
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| 17:57.00 | jharrisonwk | I have extra bandwidth |
| 17:57.01 | jharrisonwk | anyone want 400 or 500 K extra? |
| 17:57.01 | jharrisonwk | hhmmm |
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| 17:57.07 | truthix | Good morning |
| 17:57.24 | ricky_clarkson | jharrisonwk: Interesting how you said that all at once, possibly as if you were lagged. |
| 17:57.44 | truthix | I just read debian-policy, but it's still unclear how to disable services running in certain runlevel...by deleting symbolic links in /etc/rcn.d ? |
| 17:57.49 | jharrisonwk | ricky_clarkson: yes interestingly |
| 17:58.02 | asg | truthix: yes or by using update-rc.d or rcconf |
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| 17:58.14 | jantje38 | anyone here |
| 17:58.15 | jharrisonwk | ricky_clarkson: oh go stuff it already |
| 17:58.17 | jharrisonwk | ricky_clarkson: :-P |
| 17:58.18 | truthix | asg i'll try these tools, moment... |
| 17:58.26 | jantje38 | whe when a program starts its so small size of fonts |
| 17:58.31 | ricky_clarkson | jharrisonwk: Calm down, flower. |
| 17:58.34 | jantje38 | why when a program starts its so small size of fonts |
| 17:58.40 | asg | !tell jantje38 about repeat |
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| 17:58.48 | jharrisonwk | flower? |
| 17:58.53 | ricky_clarkson | asg: It was a bad substitution. |
| 17:59.06 | jantje38 | sorry asg just type wrong |
| 17:59.07 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: the best pizza is here |
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| 17:59.34 | asg | ricky_clarkson: but I autocorrected so it was a repeat to me ;) |
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| 17:59.54 | jantje38 | anyone can helmp me with that |
| 18:00.02 | ricky_clarkson | jantje38: You will avoid bot-directed flames by using sed syntax. Watch this. |
| 18:00.07 | ricky_clarkson | I cna't type! |
| 18:00.10 | ricky_clarkson | s/na/an/ |
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| 18:01.05 | jantje38 | why the letters are so small in a program |
| 18:01.09 | truthix | asg thx, i just installed rcconf :-) |
| 18:01.30 | stew | jantje38: /msg dpkg font guide |
| 18:01.31 | lewis | does anyone forsee any problems trying to install Debian testing (with a 2.4 kernel) onto a Dual Intel 64-bit Xeon machine? |
| 18:01.33 | truthix | asg bye for now |
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| 18:01.38 | jharrisonwk | mmmm naan |
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| 18:01.43 | ricky_clarkson | I wonder whether jantje38 could be any more vague. |
| 18:01.58 | ricky_clarkson | why the things are not right in computer? |
| 18:02.29 | jantje38 | when i start dvdripper then the program is big enough but the font is small |
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| 18:02.48 | jantje38 | i can't read it |
| 18:02.51 | greycat | jantje38: sit closer. |
| 18:02.56 | kingsley | Some weenie with the handle "yosh" <manish@graft.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> just banned me from gimpnet. He didn't want to hear about GIMP crashing X. |
| 18:02.57 | jantje38 | lol |
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| 18:03.11 | lewis | is there a 64-bit intel debian site? |
| 18:03.15 | greycat | if X crashes, how's that Gimp's fault? |
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| 18:03.38 | jharrisonwk | gimp runs the X |
| 18:03.53 | kingsley | greycat: No one knows where the bug is yet. |
| 18:04.00 | greycat | must be like allllll those damned newbies who want to know how to make their "gnome" run at a different resolution. |
| 18:04.04 | greycat | Pah. |
| 18:04.06 | jharrisonwk | its crawling along on my floor |
| 18:04.12 | jantje38 | >/list belgium |
| 18:04.15 | jantje38 | lol |
| 18:04.45 | scorpix | is there somthing like deltarpm for .deb packages? |
| 18:04.45 | KursK | old problem, I mount a samba share but all files have size in exabyte dimension, it's a 2.4.19 kernel, both sides are able to handle files > 2 and samba is 3.0.4 from backports...what might be missing? |
| 18:05.18 | kingsley | greycat: It's just that using GIMP is the only way to reliably duplicate the bug at this point. |
| 18:06.01 | jantje38 | greycat: can you help me with this prob please |
| 18:07.11 | asg | !wwsr is also <reply>http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg00008.html |
| 18:07.12 | dpkg | okay, asg |
| 18:07.15 | greycat | jantje38: only if the application has a --font switch. |
| 18:07.22 | greycat | jantje38: in which case, I'd tell you to use the --font switch. |
| 18:08.17 | mngrif | bwahahaha!!! D2 works! |
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| 18:08.44 | jantje38 | greycat: so i need to do dvdrip -font or ??? in program i dont find gfont |
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| 18:10.40 | jharrisonwk | I wonder if the freenode server I am connected to has lag |
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| 18:11.11 | asg | jharrisonwk: maybe the bug king is getting revenge |
| 18:11.21 | greycat | jantje38: yeah, I supposed -font is more common than --font. |
| 18:11.25 | jantje38 | asg: where or how can i use that --font |
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| 18:11.32 | jantje38 | ok |
| 18:11.44 | greycat | jantje38: EITHER IT FUCKING HAS IT OR IT FUCKING DOES NOT. TRY IT AND FUCKING *FIND OUT*! |
| 18:11.48 | greycat | SHEESH! |
| 18:11.51 | coruptkid | some help neonw |
| 18:11.55 | coruptkid | neone |
| 18:12.05 | greycat | you misspelled Neon. |
| 18:12.15 | asg | or ne1 |
| 18:12.21 | coruptkid | ;-) |
| 18:12.29 | greycat | and you *REALLY* butchered the living fuck out of "anyone". |
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| 18:12.39 | coruptkid | i need to know how to start GNOme from Debian 3 |
| 18:12.46 | asg | ...We came to the conclusion that the freeze can get into effect as of now. (tonights release meeting snippet) |
| 18:12.46 | greycat | !running gnome |
| 18:12.46 | dpkg | starting gnome is probably echo exec /usr/bin/gnome-session > ~/.xsession |
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| 18:12.59 | coruptkid | il try it |
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| 18:13.21 | manchu | k, found the bug, there's no helpful info for me - I'm just trying to clean my system out from this mess... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=212987 |
| 18:13.24 | jharrisonwk | asg: could be but im sitting in gbit fibre here and nothing else seems to be having a problem |
| 18:13.38 | jharrisonwk | asg: so im doubtful there is something on my end |
| 18:13.39 | asg | jharrisonwk: so am I ;) |
| 18:13.45 | jharrisonwk | :) |
| 18:13.56 | jharrisonwk | asg: I like the fibre |
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| 18:14.03 | jharrisonwk | asg: how do you like it? |
| 18:14.09 | bluefox83 | how do i get the number of files in a directory? |
| 18:14.14 | asg | jharrisonwk: stays crunchy in milk |
| 18:14.15 | greycat | bluefox83: ls | wc -l |
| 18:14.22 | jharrisonwk | asg: yes it sure does |
| 18:14.23 | greycat | bluefox83: or suck them into an array and print the array's length |
| 18:14.26 | bluefox83 | wc -l? there's a new one on me.. |
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| 18:14.29 | DwyaneWade | what should i do in order to prevent a windows installation to make the linux partition unreachable by overwriting mbr? is there a way to run grub after a windows install in order to make linux bootable again? |
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| 18:14.35 | asg | bluefox83: it's been around for a long time |
| 18:14.53 | jharrisonwk | DwyaneWade: why dont you install windows first and then linux second? |
| 18:15.00 | asg | DwyaneWade: not really, just boot from the install disc afterwards and fix things. |
| 18:15.05 | bluefox83 | asg, i haven't been using linux for a "long time" |
| 18:15.06 | coruptkid | dpkg, i get bash: /root: Is a directory |
| 18:15.06 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, coruptkid |
| 18:15.22 | asg | bluefox83: ah, well wc(1) is very helpful |
| 18:15.37 | coruptkid | hmm, i've installed gnome but i'm trying to run it now |
| 18:15.39 | bluefox83 | asg, i'll check out the man page, thank you :) |
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| 18:16.45 | coruptkid | when i ran the "echo exec /usr/bin/gnome-session > ~/.xsession" I get bash:/root is a directory |
| 18:16.47 | asg | ...A wc utility appeared in Version 1 AT&T UNIX. |
| 18:16.48 | DwyaneWade | jharrisonwk: because i have linux installed already and it doesn't need reintalled |
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| 18:17.03 | coruptkid | dpkg, when i ran the "echo exec /usr/bin/gnome-session > ~/.xsession" I get bash:/root is a directory |
| 18:17.03 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, coruptkid |
| 18:17.11 | asg | coruptkid: dpkg is a bot, not a person |
| 18:17.20 | DwyaneWade | asg: i made a NetInstall of Debian and it took about 6 hours so it wouldn't be very easy to do it again and i don't have a CD |
| 18:17.20 | coruptkid | lol, it just clicked |
| 18:17.27 | coruptkid | :-) |
| 18:17.36 | asg | DwyaneWade: then follow jharrisonwk's advice. |
| 18:17.45 | coruptkid | can anyone help me with starting gnome |
| 18:18.04 | DwyaneWade | asg: that's what i said, to reinstall linux too would take a whole day |
| 18:18.28 | DwyaneWade | there is no way to put for example Grub on a floppy disk and then boto from the floppy? |
| 18:18.31 | asg | DwyaneWade: well, create a boot floppy |
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| 18:18.53 | trevorc | coruptkid, try startx ... |
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| 18:19.02 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: photo? |
| 18:19.22 | manchu | DwyaneWade: booting a modern linux from a 1.4M floppy is kinda hard, but there are some floppy images out there.. you might also want to google for linload.exe |
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| 18:19.41 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: best toast http://linuks.mine.nu/o2r10k/IMG_3177.JPG |
| 18:20.01 | coruptkid | trevorc, from anywhere or a particular directory?? |
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| 18:21.29 | asg | tarzeau: that's a mean thing to do to innocent toast |
| 18:21.29 | trevorc | coruptkid, when you ran that last command, it updated your configuration, when you run startx ( from anywhere ), it will use that configuration information |
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| 18:21.29 | tarzeau | asg: putting pineapple on it? |
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| 18:21.30 | coruptkid | what was the last command again?? |
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| 18:21.30 | asg | tarzeau: yes, that sounds particularly nasty :) |
| 18:21.30 | asg | coruptkid: startx |
| 18:21.31 | trevorc | startx! :) |
| 18:21.44 | DwyaneWade | hmm they say linload can start a linux system having the kernel on a Dos partition or something like that |
| 18:21.50 | DwyaneWade | http://howtos.linux.com/howtos/Linux+Win95/linload.shtml |
| 18:22.01 | coruptkid | cos when i run starts i am told... /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory |
| 18:22.04 | coruptkid | *startx |
| 18:22.11 | asg | coruptkid: apt-get install x-window-system |
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| 18:23.26 | tarzeau | coruptkid: add -core |
| 18:24.01 | Dabian | tarzeau: :) |
| 18:24.08 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: where is the pizza? |
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| 18:24.19 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.19 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.19 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.23 | greycat | oops. ECHAN. |
| 18:24.24 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: in my stomach |
| 18:24.27 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: is that fresh pineapple? |
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| 18:24.37 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: no from a tin |
| 18:24.38 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: well I dont want a picture of it then |
| 18:24.43 | trevorc | tarzeau, when I did an unstable install, somewhere "they" asked me to install the "desktop system", wouldn't that be a better option in this case? |
| 18:24.44 | DwyaneWade | the file "grub-floppy" in /sbin is of any good in my case? |
| 18:24.47 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: oh thats too bad :0 |
| 18:25.05 | DwyaneWade | hmm is a folder |
| 18:25.06 | tarzeau | trevorc: never select that! it's evil |
| 18:25.08 | asg | DwyaneWade: try it and see |
| 18:25.10 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: ill mail you a fresh one but it will be rotten by the time it gets to you |
| 18:25.21 | asg | DwyaneWade: man grub-floppy |
| 18:25.36 | trevorc | tarzeau: hum, why ... installs too many things ( it did put both KDE and GNOME on there ... and probably lots of other things too! :) ) |
| 18:25.46 | tarzeau | trevorc: and not GNUstep |
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| 18:25.56 | tarzeau | trevorc: and not check if there's enough space left on the destination |
| 18:25.59 | jharrisonwk | mmmmm mangoes |
| 18:26.01 | tarzeau | trevorc: it sucks majorly |
| 18:26.06 | trevorc | jeez, that's not very nice! |
| 18:26.15 | tarzeau | trevorc: it's a bug! |
| 18:26.20 | trevorc | I figured it would be a normal check ... |
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| 18:26.22 | trevorc | ahh, I see. |
| 18:26.22 | DwyaneWade | asg: yes it seems exactly what i was looking for |
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| 18:26.38 | asg | DwyaneWade: looks that way |
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| 18:27.06 | DwyaneWade | you didn't know about it? |
| 18:27.15 | trevorc | tarzeau, hopefull it won't go unnoticed, like my other bug report about a gimp dcraw plugin not parsing the command line correctly ..... it was ignored! :) |
| 18:27.18 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: http://sam.zoy.org/fun/goatse/1073629317423.jpg |
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| 18:28.03 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: http://sam.zoy.org/fun/goatse/pluto.gif |
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| 18:28.08 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: look familar? |
| 18:28.21 | trevorc | !channel limit |
| 18:29.01 | trevorc | oh well, no help there then! |
| 18:29.02 | DwyaneWade | what does "linuz' mean? |
| 18:29.17 | asg | DwyaneWade: in what context? |
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| 18:30.00 | mngrif | DwyaneWade: before bzip was around, the linux kernel would be compressed by UNIX compress, which had the extension of .Z |
| 18:30.29 | mngrif | DwyaneWade: linux.Z somehow got turned into linuz for the compressed kernel image. |
| 18:30.30 | DwyaneWade | many contexts, i see lots of files or folders containing this wrod linuz |
| 18:30.33 | DwyaneWade | like vmlinuz |
| 18:30.45 | mngrif | compressed linux kernel image |
| 18:30.49 | DwyaneWade | got it |
| 18:30.55 | mngrif | using UNIX compress |
| 18:30.59 | greycat | mngrif: you're on drugs. |
| 18:31.05 | mngrif | greycat: not today |
| 18:31.08 | asg | mngrif: it's only a conventional naming scheme |
| 18:31.29 | greycat | mngrif: 1) Linux has NEVER used bzip nor bzip2. 2) Linux POSTDATES the invention of gzip. |
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| 18:31.42 | mngrif | greycat: didn't say anything about gzip |
| 18:31.44 | tarzeau | trevorc: i reported a bug on this desktop entry of tasksel, it got wontfix |
| 18:32.06 | greycat | mngrif: it NEVER used AT&T(r) Unix(tm) compress(1) |
| 18:32.07 | trevorc | WHAT, that's crazy |
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| 18:32.25 | greycat | mngrif: it's always been gzip or nothing. |
| 18:32.26 | trevorc | tarzeau, maybe we can just submit the patches, and hope for the fix to go through! |
| 18:32.47 | tarzeau | trevorc: haha, i doubt |
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| 18:32.50 | greycat | !pal trevorc |
| 18:32.51 | DwyaneWade | the files from ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/ should be all valid boot images for floppy i guess |
| 18:32.58 | DwyaneWade | but which one to choose? |
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| 18:33.10 | mngrif | greycat: then what does 'make bzimage' produce? 'cause if it doesn't produce a bzipped kernel image then i've been seriously misguided all these years |
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| 18:33.12 | greycat | that's a good one. a debian developer accepting a patch to fix a bug in his package, from a user. HAHAHAHAHAHA.... |
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| 18:33.21 | tarzeau | trevorc: at least it should've been split to GNOME Desktop and KDE Desktop |
| 18:33.23 | trevorc | greycat, it's that hard to fix the code! |
| 18:33.26 | greycat | mngrif: Big gZip IMAGE. |
| 18:33.28 | bluebell | does Debian woody have a 2.6 version? |
| 18:33.29 | Dabian | greycat: Why would that be fun? |
| 18:33.34 | greycat | mngrif: IT IS NOT BZIP2. NEVER HAS BEEN. |
| 18:33.36 | tarzeau | trevorc: but calling it Desktop and installing double bloat is HILARIOUS |
| 18:33.40 | mngrif | greycat: no need to shout |
| 18:33.44 | directhex | bluebell, there are unofficial packages to enable it |
| 18:33.47 | greycat | mngrif: apparently there is. |
| 18:33.50 | brunocesar | bluebell no but u can do it |
| 18:33.53 | directhex | bluebell, (/msg dpkg bunk 2.6) |
| 18:33.53 | mngrif | nope, i can read |
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| 18:33.58 | tarzeau | trevorc: it's not hard at all |
| 18:34.01 | greycat | trevorc: no, fixing code isn't hard. Getting your patch *accepted* by a DD is hard. |
| 18:34.09 | greycat | !gnu man pages |
| 18:34.09 | dpkg | gnu man pages are utterly shit, and you can't fix them even if you try. For example, see http://bugs.debian.org/111578 |
| 18:34.10 | mngrif | just always read bzimage=bzip'd image |
| 18:34.15 | greycat | !safecat |
| 18:34.15 | dpkg | methinks safecat is a program for delivering messages to maildir format mailboxes. But the Debian maintainer is an idiot. greycat's fixed version of safecat is at <http://wooledge.org/~greg/safecat/> and <http://bugs.debian.org/220849>. |
| 18:34.17 | mngrif | guess my sources are wrong |
| 18:34.19 | tarzeau | greycat: depends alot on the DD/Maintainer and the patch i'd say |
| 18:34.23 | Salocin59 | hello, i have a small network behind a gateway with computers using 192.168.1.X. I have on the other side a linux with xdmcp and address 172.164.X.X |
| 18:34.29 | Salocin59 | i can not logon in xdmcp |
| 18:34.34 | Dabian | greycat: Is there a way to make a bzip2 image? |
| 18:34.41 | greycat | Dabian: hack the code. |
| 18:34.42 | Salocin59 | i dont understand, i am able to ping it, |
| 18:34.53 | tarzeau | Dabian: it'll be much slower |
| 18:34.55 | Salocin59 | and my iptables are open |
| 18:34.56 | Dabian | greycat: heh .. nice idea actually |
| 18:34.56 | greycat | Salocin59: /msg dpkg xdmcp |
| 18:34.59 | mngrif | hack the planet maaan \m/ |
| 18:35.03 | tarzeau | Dabian: real hardware don't need compression of the kernel at all |
| 18:35.04 | Dabian | greycat: Might make the code smaller. |
| 18:35.09 | asg | eww, what a sad film that was |
| 18:35.13 | coruptkid | hmm |
| 18:35.19 | greycat | Dabian: yeah, because your 60 GB hard disk is just *so* full with that 1 MB kernel image. |
| 18:35.22 | Dabian | tarzeau: Well .: I consider soekris .. |
| 18:35.23 | tarzeau | actually real kernels are microkernels and when compressed get larger |
| 18:35.32 | asg | !hurdsmite tarzeau |
| 18:35.38 | DwyaneWade | hmmm that decompressed folder has 3.7 MB |
| 18:35.41 | DwyaneWade | no way to put that on a floppy |
| 18:35.42 | trevorc | !tarzeau |
| 18:35.42 | dpkg | tarzeau is probably http://livecd.gnustep.org/ |
| 18:35.45 | Dabian | greycat: I still consider that soekris thing you (almost) recommened me. :) |
| 18:35.52 | trevorc | I see now .... |
| 18:36.09 | trevorc | tarzeau, who updates these messages anyway! |
| 18:36.11 | mngrif | DwyaneWade: there's tons of tricks for fitting far more than 1.44mb of a floppy |
| 18:36.11 | dan2 | !bob2smite trevorc |
| 18:36.19 | dan2 | !fruitsmite trevorc |
| 18:36.22 | Salocin59 | greycat ??? what, i forgot to tell that i can log on with xdmcp if i am on the same network than this server, but after the gateway it is impossible |
| 18:36.22 | coruptkid | ?Question? - Has anyone had the error while runnit startx of "Fatal server error: no screns found" |
| 18:36.30 | coruptkid | *running |
| 18:36.45 | greycat | Salocin59: tcpdump(8). Have fun. |
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| 18:36.56 | greycat | !noscreensfound |
| 18:36.57 | dpkg | [noscreensfound] probably dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. |
| 18:37.20 | Salocin59 | thanks |
| 18:37.20 | mngrif | heh, dpkg said sodding. |
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| 18:37.30 | EdibleText | coruptkid, you most certainly arent taking a poll... explain *your* problem |
| 18:37.51 | greycat | EdibleText: off hand, I'd guess his problem is he misconfigured X and is getting "no screens found" after the errors which he neglected to read. |
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| 18:38.07 | EdibleText | greycat, bingo |
| 18:38.09 | simonsays | How do you modify the parameters of pdflush the bdflush replacement? There used to be a /proc/sys/vm/bdflush file and there seems no pdflush replacement... |
| 18:38.15 | Gathond | coruptkid: almost anyone who have ever had a critical configuration error in their X have seen that one :) |
| 18:38.16 | peratu | Hi. I have installed a Debian Woody and I have changed in sources.list stable by unstable, and apt-get update fails. But, I have changed in sources.list stable by sarge and apt-get update works. Somebody has the same problem? Thanks. |
| 18:38.20 | manchu | coruptkid: iirc, I had that when my monitor settings were invalid, so the "screen" couldn't load |
| 18:38.26 | Dabian | tarzeau: I guess gzipped image will fit even on soekris btw. :) |
| 18:38.46 | greycat | Dabian: depends on what you put *in* the soekris. |
| 18:38.54 | DoktorTomoe | peratu: Are you sure the sources.list entries are correct *and* the servers are up? |
| 18:39.06 | stew | Dabian: if you are looking at soekris boards, you should look at wrap too: http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm |
| 18:39.58 | manchu | anyone clever enough with dpkg to help unjam a stupid mix-up in my system? related to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=212987 |
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| 18:41.30 | simonsays | manchu: ick... ;) |
| 18:41.57 | EdibleText | !nortonsmite me |
| 18:43.22 | manchu | simonsays: so, the pkg has been removed, but not from my system, and the post-remove script throws an error, so I can't update nothin' |
| 18:43.23 | EdibleText | I have been enhanced with more features |
| 18:43.25 | manchu | :-/ |
| 18:44.39 | k-dog | What driver for Trio 86c764 xfree86? |
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| 18:44.39 | simonsays | manchu: 1 sec |
| 18:44.40 | greycat | ask www.xfree86.org or #xfree86 |
| 18:44.40 | k-dog | greycat: kthx |
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| 18:49.04 | simonsays | manchu: which branch are you running? |
| 18:49.04 | manchu | simonsays: testing |
| 18:49.04 | nkuttler | manchu: why don't you fix the script? |
| 18:49.05 | manchu | nkuttler: if only someone could point me to where the script is ! |
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| 18:49.05 | stew | manchu: /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 18:49.05 | abrotman | where all the other dpkg scripts are |
| 18:49.05 | manchu | :-)))) |
| 18:49.05 | nkuttler | manchu: /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.postrm |
| 18:49.05 | manchu | thx stew, nkuttler ! |
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| 18:49.06 | tyras | Hello |
| 18:49.06 | simonsays | where does one modify the pdflush parameters? |
| 18:49.06 | tyras | I have a question about K-mess |
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| 18:49.07 | abrotman | you mean kde? |
| 18:49.07 | greycat | simonsays: where does the source code say? |
| 18:49.07 | Rayen | Hi, does Debian have a feature like Gentoo's genkernel ? |
| 18:49.07 | nkuttler | Rayen: what do it do? |
| 18:49.07 | luulis | kernel-package |
| 18:49.30 | PerfDave | Knowing Gentoo, it makes your kernel slower and crash more ;) |
| 18:49.47 | Rayen | nkuttler, it recognizes all your hardware and selects the featues in your linux kernel which your hardware support, the not supported features will simply be disabled |
| 18:49.54 | simonsays | greycat: good point... ;) |
| 18:50.04 | PerfDave | Whoa, how pointless ;) |
| 18:50.05 | abrotman | !tell Rayen about kp |
| 18:50.14 | manchu | PerfDave: it's an auto config for n00bs... horrible for experienced users, but heaven for the less experienced |
| 18:50.19 | abrotman | Rayen: doesn't that kind of suck? |
| 18:50.24 | PerfDave | Rayen: Debian just uses modular kernel packages which only load the features they need. |
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| 18:50.39 | abrotman | Rayen: i mean .. if you buy hardware .. or need different FS support .. you've gotta recompile .. ick |
| 18:51.00 | PerfDave | abrotman: It's *Gentoo*, it's all about the recompiling. |
| 18:51.21 | PerfDave | abrotman: Gentoo is a cunning ploy by the coal and oil industries to encourage people to waste more energy on recompiling shit all the time ;) |
| 18:51.28 | abrotman | PerfDave: aka .. wasting my life? |
| 18:51.29 | manchu | lol! |
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| 18:51.58 | Rayen | abrotman, nope it's really cool actually, after 'genkernel' has done it's work, you could just check those settings and enable/disable the things you'll need... |
| 18:52.26 | greycat | PerfDave: don't forget the CPU vendors. |
| 19:00.37 | tyras | PerfDave: we talked earlyer today, and I have some new questions |
| 19:00.37 | Rayen | PerfDave, So it still does use kernel memory ? |
| 19:00.37 | stew | Rayen: or you could just apt-get a kernel and be done with it |
| 19:00.37 | manchu | thanks for helping end my agony, stew, nkuttler, and simonsays ! |
| 19:00.37 | manchu | (all better) |
| 19:00.37 | abrotman | Rayen: uhm .. but .. if you need new FS support .. or buy say .. a new network card .. you've gotta recompile right ? |
| 19:00.37 | tyras | I want to install a programm called k-mess, and I unziped it allready |
| 19:00.37 | PerfDave | Rayen: "use kernel memory"? If a module's not loaded, it's not loaded and doesn't use any memory. |
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| 19:00.38 | stew | or what happens when you plug in a firewire cdburner or something? |
| 19:00.38 | abrotman | stew: sounds crappy to me .. replace the engine when you get new tires :) |
| 19:00.38 | stew | yeah |
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| 19:00.38 | tyras | now I have to do ./configure and then it gives an error: cant find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths |
| 19:00.38 | abrotman | ack .. new headlights .. time to recompile! |
| 19:00.38 | greycat | tyras: xlibs-dev |
| 19:00.38 | greycat | !faq tyras |
| 19:00.38 | dpkg | tyras: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 19:00.38 | PerfDave | Which kernel version introduced dynamic module loading? |
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| 19:00.39 | PerfDave | tyras: also, /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 19:00.39 | abrotman | like .. 2.0.x ? |
| 19:00.39 | greycat | PerfDave: uh... I want to guess 1.2, but it might have been 2.0 |
| 19:00.39 | PerfDave | Heh, and Gentoo has a go at Debian for not catching up with modern features ;0 |
| 19:00.39 | simonsays | greycat: nothing mentioned in pdflush.c other than the number of threads to have a la /proc/sys/vm/nr_pdflush_threads... am i missing something or are there no modifications possible? |
| 19:00.39 | Rayen | abrotman, It depends on the situation, if you would buy a new network card which is the same model, Nope! But if you mean you'll buy a total different network card, maybe if the feature was disabled! so it doesn't really make a difference because i would have the exact problem if i compiled my kernel manually! |
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| 19:00.40 | abrotman | Rayen: so use a debian packaged kernel .. problem solved |
| 19:00.40 | greycat | simonsays: how would I know? |
| 19:00.40 | PerfDave | Rayen: But if you used a Debian-provided, modularised kernel-image package, the chances are that you'll not need to recompile when you add new hardware. It'll just load the modules it needs to support them. |
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| 19:00.41 | obtix | when i try to goto my apache site i get the forbidden error.. whats wrong? |
| 19:00.41 | tyras | xlibs-dev gives an error: command not found |
| 19:00.41 | PerfDave | obtix: It's a package, install it :) |
| 19:00.41 | obtix | PerfDave: what package? |
| 19:00.41 | Rayen | Hmm, That's a good point! :-) |
| 19:00.41 | greycat | obtix: read the log. |
| 19:00.42 | PerfDave | obtix: Whoops, sorry. |
| 19:00.43 | PerfDave | tyras: It's a package, install it :) |
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| 19:00.43 | simonsays | greycat: *shrugs* |
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| 19:00.44 | Rayen | PerfDave, But wouldn't it cost extra time for my PC to place something from Modular to Enabled ? |
| 19:00.44 | tyras | PerfDave: and how do I install it? (sorry 4 being a n00b) |
| 19:00.44 | sussudio | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:00.44 | greycat | Rayen: consider it part of the boot process. |
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| 19:00.44 | PerfDave | Rayen: "cost extra time"? Sorry? |
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| 19:00.45 | greycat | PerfDave: you have to think like a gentoo user to understand. Every Millisecond Counts! |
| 19:00.45 | PerfDave | Rayen: It doesn't change anything from modular to compiled in, it just loads the modules it needs at boot, or when you plug in new hardware. |
| 19:00.45 | PerfDave | tyras: You may want to read the FAQ that greycat / dpkg pointed out to you. |
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| 19:00.46 | ecko | Rayen: Modules actually give you more flexability like you can upgrade a driver without redoing your kernel |
| 19:00.46 | tyras | PerfDave: thank you, I will do that :) |
| 19:00.46 | obtix | greycat: ok i fixed it :-) thank you... but now i get an error on the pictures it tries to view its looking for the pictures in /usr/share/images and i dont know why - thats not in the html code |
| 19:00.46 | ecko | the extra half second it takes to bootup is well worth it |
| 19:00.46 | greycat | obtix: #apache |
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| 19:01.23 | MASoft | What is /proc/uptime ? is it a normal file ? (Which one is faster ? Slackware or Debian ;) don't worry, jokking) |
| 19:01.43 | greycat | !/proc/uptime |
| 19:01.43 | dpkg | /proc/uptime has two numbers: "uptime" and "idle". They're in seconds. RTFKS. |
| 19:01.45 | abrotman | sussudio: is that bad? |
| 19:02.28 | Anders1 | what is ks short for |
| 19:02.29 | MASoft | dpkg, my problem is something else ! is it a Normal file ? its size is 0 ! |
| 19:02.29 | dpkg | ...but my problem is already something else... |
| 19:02.30 | Anders1 | (in rtfks) |
| 19:02.40 | greycat | Anders1: kernel source |
| 19:02.45 | Anders1 | oh ;) |
| 19:04.12 | EdibleText | !my problem |
| 19:04.12 | dpkg | well, my problem is the same, but with libXext.so.6 |
| 19:04.12 | greycat | MASoft: anything in /proc is NOT a normal file. |
| 19:04.12 | greycat | !factinfo my problem |
| 19:04.12 | dpkg | my problem -- created by csaba198 <~csaba198@caracas-0073.adsl.interware.hu> at Thu Nov 14 19:41:39 2002 (900 days); it has been requested once, last by EdibleText, 26s ago. |
| 19:04.12 | MASoft | greycat, how can I make the same like them ? |
| 19:04.13 | EdibleText | heh |
| 19:04.13 | greycat | MASoft: THEY ARE PART OF THE KERNEL. |
| 19:04.13 | MASoft | greycat, So I must write kernel module ? |
| 19:04.13 | abrotman | dpkg: you have problems |
| 19:04.17 | EdibleText | !seen csaba198 |
| 19:04.18 | dpkg | csaba198 <~sdlk@caracas-0398.adsl.interware.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 34d 10h 46m 21s ago, saying: 'for rotozoomSurfaceXY'. |
| 19:04.35 | stew | !troll MASoft |
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| 19:04.49 | [sr] | hi ppl |
| 19:04.52 | Rayen | PerfDave, So it isn't really worth it if I want to use the newest 2.6 kernel and compile it by myself if I would do it for the performance ? |
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| 19:05.31 | Manneh|Hemlock | can anyone help me out with compiling PHP on debian? getting an error while ./configure |
| 19:05.43 | PerfDave | Rayen: I doubt you'd get any significant performance boost compiling your own kernel compared to using a Debian-provided, arch-specific kernel-image package. |
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| 19:05.46 | xtof | hi! when I'm in a text terminal, and I do "lsmod | grep riva", it tells me "bash: grep - command not found" (even if I try /bin/grep) ; and in konsole,xterm... it works... Any clues? |
| 19:05.53 | PerfDave | !wayc Manneh|Hemlock |
| 19:05.54 | [sr] | PerfDave whi compile when u have the binaries? |
| 19:05.54 | dpkg | Manneh|Hemlock: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 19:05.58 | tyras | How do I paste into the Shell Window (using KDE&clipboard) |
| 19:06.00 | tarzeau | xtof: echo $PATH ? |
| 19:06.10 | PerfDave | tyras: Middle-click? |
| 19:06.11 | Manneh|Hemlock | lol, have you tried apt-get install php5? |
| 19:06.16 | tarzeau | xtof: same user? not debian, right? |
| 19:06.19 | PerfDave | Manneh|Hemlock: No, I don't use PHP. |
| 19:06.26 | PerfDave | Manneh|Hemlock: /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 19:06.27 | stew | Manneh|Hemlock: /msg dpkg dotdeb |
| 19:06.30 | hellfire | i'm a debian user who wants to ask windows XP questions. Whats the channel called for winxp? |
| 19:06.32 | greycat | xtof: cat /etc/debian_version; uname -r; dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 19:06.35 | tyras | PerfDave: MAN THANKS! :D UR the man! |
| 19:06.39 | xtof | tarzeau, grep is in my $PATH, same user, and debian :-) |
| 19:06.42 | PerfDave | !ur |
| 19:06.43 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 19:06.51 | PerfDave | [sr]: That's my point entirely. |
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| 19:06.59 | greycat | xtof: echo $PATH spits out "grep"? |
| 19:07.00 | xtof | greycat : I try that... |
| 19:07.04 | Manneh|Hemlock | if I do apt-get install php4, I dont get php4 libs for apache2 |
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| 19:07.15 | greycat | Manneh|Hemlock: thank god! |
| 19:07.19 | pahvi | Manneh|Hemlock: try apt-get moo it fixes all |
| 19:07.21 | PerfDave | Manneh|Hemlock: You wouldn't. |
| 19:07.21 | pder | hai dear, plz to tell me about the debians? |
| 19:07.29 | nkuttler | hellfire: try a different irc network |
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| 19:07.36 | tarzeau | !plz |
| 19:07.36 | dpkg | i guess plz is german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel. L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
| 19:07.38 | tarzeau | !debians |
| 19:07.38 | dpkg | [debians] gay |
| 19:07.39 | PerfDave | Manneh|Hemlock: "apt-cache search php4 apache2", see if you can guess what you need to install. |
| 19:07.41 | xtof | greycat, nope, it tells "/bin:/usr/bin./...", and which grep tells /bin/grep ;-) |
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| 19:07.44 | tyras | PerfDave: MAN THANKS! :D YOU ARE the man! ;) |
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| 19:07.48 | hellfire | nkuttler thanks! |
| 19:07.48 | PerfDave | tyras: Yay! :) |
| 19:07.50 | tarzeau | pder.isgay.com |
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| 19:08.06 | Rayen | PerfDave, OK, how could I get the 2.6.11.8 kernel-image package for my Pentium 4 ? |
| 19:08.10 | greycat | !factinfo debians |
| 19:08.10 | dpkg | debians -- created by chriss <~melphies@ool-44c096ba.dyn.optonline.net> at Tue Mar 2 05:42:22 2004 (427 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by tarzeau, 32s ago. |
| 19:08.17 | greycat | dpkg, forget debians |
| 19:08.17 | dpkg | greycat: i forgot debians |
| 19:08.25 | PerfDave | Rayen: apt-cache seach kernel-image |
| 19:08.56 | tyras | Can I be logged in as Root and as user simultaniusly? |
| 19:09.03 | tarzeau | bob2: what packages are you doing? ever used dpatch? pbuilder? |
| 19:09.04 | greycat | tyras: yes, on two different terminals. |
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| 19:09.13 | PerfDave | tyras: Yes, but logging in as root is rarely a good idea. |
| 19:09.19 | trevorc | tyras, does a chicken have lips? |
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| 19:09.22 | Rayen | PerfDave, ah ok thanks, brb/bbl |
| 19:09.23 | tarzeau | tyras: even in one terminal with gnu screen |
| 19:09.25 | xtof | greycat, ok your cat... cmd says me 3.1 ; 2.6.10-1-686 ; and ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-21 |
| 19:09.26 | greycat | tyras: log in as a user, then use 'su' to achieve root privileges in one terminal. |
| 19:09.45 | tyras | Thx greycat :) |
| 19:09.47 | greycat | xtof: ok, so we believe you... you're really on Debian. Now, what does 'echo $PATH' say? |
| 19:10.18 | directhex | could be kanotix, of course |
| 19:10.25 | xtof | greycat, /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin |
| 19:10.29 | directhex | we need some kind of isdebian checker |
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| 19:10.32 | Manneh|Hemlock | PerfDave: |
| 19:10.34 | Manneh|Hemlock | Extension Error! |
| 19:10.34 | Manneh|Hemlock | Your version of PHP (4.3.10-12) does not include MySQL support. |
| 19:10.40 | Manneh|Hemlock | great huh? |
| 19:11.01 | asuffield | Manneh|Hemlock: hire a new sysadmin, your current one is dim |
| 19:11.13 | greycat | Manneh|Hemlock: apt-cache search apache mysql php |
| 19:11.15 | directhex | !info php4-mysql sarge |
| 19:11.26 | tyras | Next problem: Package xlibs-dev has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list However the following packages replace it: xutils E: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate |
| 19:11.29 | greycat | huh. |
| 19:11.35 | tarzeau | !sid faq tyras |
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| 19:11.39 | colde | is it possible to ping in a IPX network? |
| 19:11.41 | greycat | that apt-cache search turns up php3-mysql but not php4-mysql. |
| 19:11.46 | greycat | I guess some Clue is required. |
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| 19:11.59 | greycat | tarzeau: it's not parametrized. |
| 19:12.07 | PerfDave | tyras: Which version of Debian are you running? |
| 19:12.17 | tarzeau | PerfDave: the wrong one for sure |
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| 19:12.21 | Manneh|Hemlock | !info php4-mysql sarge |
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| 19:12.32 | directhex | oh, dpkg is dead |
| 19:12.34 | directhex | @info php4-mysql sarge |
| 19:12.37 | rue_mohr | hello |
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| 19:12.48 | klaxia1 | does anyone know if MySQL Masters need to initiate connections to their slaves for any reason? We are faced with a corporate firewall limitation that will not allow inbound connections to the slave. |
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| 19:12.53 | PerfDave | !info xlibs-dev woody |
| 19:12.58 | PerfDave | D'oh |
| 19:13.01 | tyras | PerfDave: r04 or something? |
| 19:13.06 | EdibleText | !info ipx |
| 19:13.07 | directhex | feh, i give up. you want php4-mysql and libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 19:13.14 | PerfDave | tyras: 3.0r4? |
| 19:13.16 | directhex | dpkg is DEAD |
| 19:13.16 | stew | http://packages.debian.org/php4-mysql |
| 19:13.17 | tyras | yes |
| 19:13.19 | greycat | tyras: 3.0r4 is 3.0 which is woody. |
| 19:13.24 | rue_mohr | new challenge today, I need debootstrap to work from a local file repository because I cant keep downloading the whole 77M every time I have to tweek soemthing |
| 19:13.28 | Manneh|Hemlock | greycat: i dont want php3 :) |
| 19:13.30 | EdibleText | Long live dpkg! |
| 19:13.31 | directhex | @summon badgers |
| 19:13.33 | ravenbird | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing badgers's coordinates |
| 19:13.41 | greycat | Manneh|Hemlock: Invoke The Magical Brain! |
| 19:13.42 | tarzeau | directhex: she probably just went shopping |
| 19:13.44 | asuffield | should be r5 by now |
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| 19:14.00 | xtof | greycat, I have the same PATH in text console and X konsole... May that be a problem of "|" char? (echo $LANG is the same in the two terms) |
| 19:14.10 | EdibleText | directhex, but dead is already something else ;) |
| 19:14.15 | Manneh|Hemlock | greycat: great help, i need a simple LAMP-server, is it that difficult? |
| 19:14.16 | PerfDave | tyras: xlibs-dev exists in woody, either your apt sources are set up incorrectly or your apt mirror is knackered. Try running "apt-get update" as root first. |
| 19:14.20 | rue_mohr | I'v created debian-router/var/lib/apt/lists/debootstrap.invalid_dists_sarge_Release and it seems good with that |
| 19:14.22 | directhex | Manneh|Hemlock, which version of debian? |
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| 19:14.28 | Manneh|Hemlock | sarge |
| 19:14.28 | stew | Manneh|Hemlock: apt-get install php4-mysql mysql-server |
| 19:14.29 | DoktorTomoe | (just ask) I have a hard time getting a cd burner to work in Debian Sarge with kernel 2.6.8 |
| 19:14.37 | rue_mohr | but it cant find the pacakges or something |
| 19:14.38 | DoktorTomoe | Can anyone give me some advice? |
| 19:14.39 | pack | rue_mohr: man debootstrap it's in the first header |
| 19:14.45 | directhex | Manneh|Hemlock, did you ignore "<directhex> feh, i give up. you want php4-mysql and libapache2-mod-php4" ? |
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| 19:14.48 | trevorc | DoktorTomoe, have you tried k3b? |
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| 19:15.03 | DoktorTomoe | trevorc: Yes ... it tells me there is no burner device |
| 19:15.08 | rue_mohr | pack, yes, file:/// BUT they dont say what directory structure I need |
| 19:15.16 | trevorc | DoktorTomoe, there is a setup |
| 19:15.20 | PerfDave | rue_mohr: Probably one created with apt-move ? |
| 19:15.23 | MASoft | We can make a Link for Devices. for Ex. /dev/mouse -> /dev/ttyS0 ! could I make socket for this situation, too ? |
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| 19:15.33 | trevorc | DoktorTomoe, one of the options ... in one menu, it will ask for root privs. |
| 19:15.34 | pack | rue_mohr: use the debmirror script to set up a local mirror |
| 19:15.38 | greycat | MASoft: no. |
| 19:15.50 | trevorc | at the bottom of the menu |
| 19:15.57 | DoktorTomoe | trevorc: I've tried, the setup found the burner. however, k3b does not seem to get this information after I've entered them in setup. |
| 19:16.00 | mxn | Synaptic silently crashes when I apply a custom filter. I think this bug has been around for a little while. How annoying. |
| 19:16.02 | rue_mohr | apt-move? |
| 19:16.05 | tyras | PerfDave: I ran the apt-get update al its does is print 2 lines, with done in them, after that, apt-get install xlibs-dev still doesnt work |
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| 19:16.12 | greycat | MASoft: however, if you REALLY feel like breaking shit at random, gpm has a FIFO. |
| 19:16.13 | DoktorTomoe | k3b does not find tools suche as cdrecord either (they *are* installed) |
| 19:16.15 | Manneh|Hemlock | directhex: no, i didnt ignore it, i simple didn磘 read it ;) |
| 19:16.19 | rue_mohr | can the debmirror script stick to a particular set of packages? |
| 19:16.30 | greycat | MASoft: and here, have some gasoline and matches too. |
| 19:16.31 | directhex | tyras, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood |
| 19:16.37 | trevorc | have you tried running as root, DoktorTomoe? |
| 19:17.07 | pack | rue_mohr: yerp, there's --exclude-deb-section |
| 19:17.08 | archpollux | hi |
| 19:17.12 | DoktorTomoe | trevorc: this setup asks for the root passwd, so I assume, yes, I have# |
| 19:17.22 | directhex | DoktorTomoe, go into settings->k3b setup |
| 19:17.36 | tyras | DirecttheX:busy ;) |
| 19:17.38 | archpollux | there was a script that would make your cable connection faster by lowering MTU and doing some other tricks... would anybody know a link for that? |
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| 19:18.17 | trevorc | DoktorTomoe, I'm assuming that you might need privs on the cd-burner .. so I'm thinking that you can start k3b as root. |
| 19:18.21 | xtof | greycat, tarzeau : it's not a grep pb, it's a "|" one : I have the same pb with less, and if the first cmd is grep or less, it works... Oh, and if I do "lsmod ; grep * riva", I have the same error (bash: grep not found) |
| 19:18.31 | trevorc | I'm not sure if you need to add a userid to /etc/group |
| 19:18.35 | rue_mohr | ok, looks like debmirror wont do a select list of packages... |
| 19:18.48 | rue_mohr | say, if I just wanted 4 10M pacakges or soemthng |
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| 19:18.59 | tyras | DirecttheX: done :) |
| 19:19.01 | DoktorTomoe | trevorc: hm, did run k3b as root. not the burner device is found. |
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| 19:19.20 | greycat | xtof: .... what have you *done* to your computer? |
| 19:19.23 | trevorc | DoktorTomoe, root, then config it? ... |
| 19:19.25 | MASoft | greycat, So can I use FIFO as Devices ? |
| 19:20.10 | DoktorTomoe | trevorc: what exactly does "burning group" mean? |
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| 19:20.48 | greycat | someone tell me why I bother giving out any information at all. |
| 19:20.49 | stew | i used to hang out with the "burning group" in college |
| 19:20.55 | rue_mohr | ooo apt-move looks like what I want |
| 19:21.01 | xtof | greycat, :-) Glad to see that I'm not the only one to find that strange... I'm going to look for ants on the motherboard, I'll be back! |
| 19:21.06 | pack | rue_mohr: why don't you just look at a mirror for the structure and the packages you use, and mimick that? |
| 19:21.13 | tyras | greycat: because you are all we have? |
| 19:21.16 | trevorc | DoktorTomoe, it sounds like the group id that owns the burner ... but I don't have it in front of me, so I think I won't be very much more help to you. |
| 19:21.23 | abrotman | stew: what did you burn? |
| 19:21.23 | rue_mohr | pack, and hand sort them? |
| 19:21.34 | rue_mohr | apt-move looks like it does it for me |
| 19:21.43 | DoktorTomoe | trevorc: thanks ... now I am able to do that backups I am in dire need of :) |
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| 19:21.49 | Jon | greycat: as some kind of subconcious compensation for something terrible you did as a child? |
| 19:21.54 | greycat | xtof: I'd be more suspicious of your keybaord mapping. |
| 19:22.02 | trevorc | DoktorTomoe, great, have a good one! :) |
| 19:22.10 | asuffield | greycat: you're really desperate for affection |
| 19:22.21 | js_ | what do i need for my md devices to be recognized at boot? |
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| 19:22.50 | sussudio | dpkg is dead? |
| 19:22.53 | pack | js_ did you read the raid howto? |
| 19:22.58 | peepo | the bittornado in debian does not support https. can anyone verify? |
| 19:23.05 | abrotman | dpkg: wake up |
| 19:23.06 | dpkg | abrotman: I'm already awake! :) |
| 19:23.07 | sussudio | !test |
| 19:23.07 | dpkg | No, sussudio, you're not online any more. |
| 19:23.11 | js_ | pack: yes |
| 19:23.19 | js_ | pack: but i obviously missed something |
| 19:23.28 | pack | js_ aight, did you create your raidtab files? |
| 19:23.38 | JohnnyST | Where can I see what packages will get into to sarge today? is there such webpage or? |
| 19:23.38 | trevorc | !info exim4 |
| 19:23.41 | dpkg | exim4: (metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installation), section mail, is important. Version: 4.50-6 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
| 19:24.05 | trevorc | dpkg, sorry, it's not 32Kb! :) |
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| 19:24.20 | js_ | pack: no, i just created a raid device using mdadm |
| 19:24.26 | abrotman | trevorc: that's a metapackage i think |
| 19:24.32 | js_ | pack: does mdadm on sarge require raidtab? |
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| 19:24.35 | abrotman | !depends exuim4 |
| 19:24.37 | abrotman | !depends exim4 |
| 19:24.37 | trevorc | ahh, that makes some more sense. |
| 19:24.39 | dpkg | exim4: depends on exim4-base (>= 4.50), exim4-daemon-light | exim4-daemon-heavy | exim4-daemon-custom |
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| 19:24.40 | directhex | tyras, your system is set up to install packages only from cd1 of debian 3.0r4 - there are 6 other cds (or the net), plus the security server (on the net) you're not configured to usew |
| 19:24.41 | abrotman | see |
| 19:24.42 | phaedral | hi all |
| 19:24.54 | unkn0wn | how do you download debian |
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| 19:25.00 | trevorc | !info exim4-base |
| 19:25.04 | dpkg | exim4-base: (support files for all exim MTA (v4) packages), section mail, is important. Version: 4.50-6 (sid), Packaged size: 793 kB, Installed size: 1316 kB |
| 19:25.05 | greycat | !d-i unkn0wn |
| 19:25.06 | dpkg | unkn0wn, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 19:25.11 | trevorc | ok, no more spam from me. :) |
| 19:25.13 | unkn0wn | ? |
| 19:25.21 | phaedral | used sarge installer to shrink my XP to 30 gb, create a FAT part of 10 gb, the rest to ext3 |
| 19:25.26 | JohnnyST | unkn0wn: I use wget. |
| 19:25.27 | phaedral | thought xp would be able to see and share fat |
| 19:25.28 | greycat | unkn0wn: use the interweb! |
| 19:25.37 | phaedral | but it doesn't |
| 19:25.39 | js_ | pack: i put DEVICE /dev/hde /devhdf in my mdadm.conf.. it just had DEVICE pertitions in there, and i didnt create a device from partitions |
| 19:25.47 | unkn0wn | interweb ? |
| 19:25.48 | trevorc | my Internets are Alive! |
| 19:25.49 | phaedral | any clues today? |
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| 19:26.40 | pack | js_ eek, i've never done it that way. i alwasy did raidtab file, mkraid, and and raidstart and a format |
| 19:26.53 | js_ | pack: ok, well i'll see if it works |
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| 19:26.55 | enyc | phae: windoze (all versions) supports FAT16, win95b/win95c/win98/me/win2000/xp supports FAT32 .. you shouldn't have a problem |
| 19:27.24 | enyc | you just wont have any 'user based permissions' at all in windoze or linux but both can write to such filesystem reliably |
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| 19:27.29 | phaedral | enyc: thx; haven't a clue how to make XP see it; |
| 19:27.30 | directhex | enyc, you missed 98se |
| 19:27.44 | Jon | phaedral: it's a bit of a long-shot but maybe partitioning is whats the problem? two primaries? not sure of XP's limitations in this area |
| 19:27.48 | directhex | phaedral, right click on my computer, manage |
| 19:27.50 | trevorc | tyras, don't cry, do what I do, go crazy! |
| 19:28.00 | directhex | phaedral, go to disk manager, assign a mountpoint for the partition |
| 19:28.04 | Jon | win95c? |
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| 19:28.16 | directhex | Jon, usb support, iirc |
| 19:28.17 | phaedral | directhex: thx |
| 19:28.17 | makeio | hello, anybody knows why my computer says me 'mibattribute="invalid_mib_did_for_item"' when i try to load wlan-ng drivers??? |
| 19:28.19 | tyras | trevorc: I allready am crazy, so thats not an option anymore :( |
| 19:28.25 | Jon | directhex: hm interesting |
| 19:28.44 | pepoo | "error(s):[21:27:51] Problem connecting to tracker - ('url error', 'unknown url type', 'https', " |
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| 19:29.14 | stew | pepoo: file a wishlist bug |
| 19:29.23 | trevorc | tyras, ahh, I'm only trying to help ... you could just put up an 'I hate this stuff' web site .. I'm sure _EVERYONE_ will visit it, and that you'll feel better as well. |
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| 19:29.50 | Pumpkin_Pie | Hullo.. |
| 19:30.00 | Pumpkin_Pie | so |
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| 19:30.17 | tyras | trevorc: I dont hate it, I just wish I understood this stuff :) , and thats where you can really help :) |
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| 19:30.41 | RThanos | Which of these endless lists of modules do I need to tuse for my ps/2 mouse to be read from /dev/mouse? |
| 19:30.45 | phaedral | sees the partition; looks like I goofed on assigning fs; doesn't show as fat |
| 19:30.52 | enyc | jon: yes, windoze 95.. has revisisions original,a,b,c iirc... and another oem-only "OSR2.1" or something which is like b.1 or something... it really doesnt matter now ;-) |
| 19:31.07 | Jon | tyras: well we can't answer unasked questions.. |
| 19:31.09 | trevorc | tyras, man, there is sooo much thaqt I still don't know ,you think that you made it over a hurdle, but then you run into another huge one, and your face hurts! |
| 19:31.17 | phaedral | can delete, create as fat from computer management? |
| 19:31.21 | trevorc | tyras, it's not just you! :) |
| 19:31.22 | Jon | enyc: oh right, I was thinking 95b = osr2 (I had osr2) |
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| 19:31.59 | tyras | trevorc, I noticed that, its a process called learning, the more obstackels, the more you gain :) think positive :D look at greycat ;) |
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| 19:32.33 | trevorc | why, what's wrong with him ;) |
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| 19:33.04 | tyras | Jon: here is my question (posted it 10 min ago) : when doing : ./configure --prefix=/usr/local with a prog called k-mess, I get a error that it cant find X (or something) |
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| 19:33.34 | tyras | nothings wrong, he just had loads of obstacels ;) |
| 19:33.36 | Jon | tyras: "can't find X" probably means it can't find the xlib headers; do you have xlibs-dev installed? |
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| 19:33.46 | phaedral | score; thanks as always |
| 19:33.59 | ircdevil | sup |
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| 19:34.24 | tyras | apt-get install xlibs-dev |
| 19:34.35 | tyras | that what i did, but didnt work |
| 19:34.45 | Jon | it didn't work? so what did that repoty |
| 19:34.52 | Jon | sorry, what error message did _that_ generate |
| 19:35.20 | xtof | greycat, keyboard mapping is a better idea than ants... Didn't find any! I'll look that way, thanks for the tip! |
| 19:35.22 | tyras | Jon: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! (exact error that .config gave) |
| 19:35.24 | makeio | anybody knows about linux-wlan-ng driver with usb-wifi dlink dwl122?? |
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| 19:35.40 | drac | tyras: apt-get install x-window-system-dev |
| 19:35.54 | Jon | tyras: that looks more like the ./configure output (but see drac's reply) |
| 19:36.03 | tyras | Jon: this is the apt error: Package xlibs-dev has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list However the following packages replace it: xutils E: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate |
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| 19:36.15 | tyras | that was the ./ configure output ;) |
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| 19:36.46 | tyras | drac: E: Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev ... :( |
| 19:36.55 | greycat | tyras: apt-setup |
| 19:36.57 | drac | tyras: fix your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:37.06 | campe | sorry someone knows what's hapened to wxwindows 2.5? |
| 19:37.07 | drac | tyras: what greycat said. |
| 19:37.16 | Jon | tyras: what do you have in your /etc/apt/sources.list? either a) you don't have a source with the relevant packages (e.g. the right CD or an internet mirror), or b) your dpkg database is out-of-date and you need to apt-get update |
| 19:37.26 | campe | I know they released 2.6 but 2.5 has been removed from unstable? |
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| 19:37.40 | greycat | campe: /msg dpkg sdn |
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| 19:38.04 | tyras | my apt is not up to date??? ahhhhh how can that be, I downloaded it yesterday :( |
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| 19:39.02 | tyras | I downloaded an entire CD with 3.0R4 woody, doesnt that include a proper apt? |
| 19:39.09 | tyras | what is apt at all??? |
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| 19:39.47 | Jon | tyras: the devel packages are almost certainly not on the first CD of the set |
| 19:39.53 | streuner | tyras: apt is the tool which gets the package to your system, dpkg manipulate the packages |
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| 19:40.13 | LandSlide | is there an easy way to download a file from a http url under linux? like a single command? |
| 19:40.21 | tyras | so apt is a kind of download program? |
| 19:40.23 | nkuttler | LandSlide: wget |
| 19:40.27 | jethro | LandSlide: wget |
| 19:40.27 | LandSlide | thanks :) |
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| 19:40.42 | tyras | apt-setup is dowloading now from a FTP |
| 19:40.46 | streuner | tyras: more than that, it resolves the depends for you auto |
| 19:40.52 | peppo | can someone here verify whether or not bittornado/btdownloadcurses supports https? |
| 19:41.06 | tyras | also a mistery to me, depends.... what is that? |
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| 19:41.20 | jethro | tyras: dependencies |
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| 19:41.46 | tyras | Jethro, I know that name, but what is it? |
| 19:41.48 | campe | greycat: nothing there too.. but I remember there was in unstable, how I can find news ? I tried to search on packages.d.o but nothing there |
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| 19:42.02 | greycat | peppo: bittorrent has its own protocol, and does not ride on top of HTTP or HTTPS afaik. |
| 19:42.03 | streuner | !depends apt |
| 19:42.04 | dpkg | apt: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) |
| 19:42.06 | jethro | tyras: some packages need other packages, aka depend on other packages |
| 19:42.16 | greycat | campe: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 19:42.17 | peppo | greycat, some torrents are distributed via https... MAN |
| 19:42.27 | greycat | peppo: news to me. |
| 19:42.33 | peppo | "error(s):[21:42:29] Problem connecting to tracker - ('url error', 'unknown url type', 'https'," |
| 19:42.37 | tyras | jethro: thats clear you're a master ;) |
| 19:42.44 | greycat | peppo: but... that's just the *torrent* file, right? once you have the torrent, the actual transfer of the *data* is still over BT. |
| 19:42.45 | peppo | greycat, the tracker is specified as a https url |
| 19:42.50 | campe | greycat: already searched there..there is no a wxwindows 2.5.x |
| 19:42.54 | peppo | greycat, the tracker info url in the torrent |
| 19:43.01 | peppo | is accessed via secure http |
| 19:43.04 | greycat | peppo: ask #bittorrent |
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| 19:43.53 | tyras | WOW xlibs is downloading! /me wonders... will it work this time? |
| 19:44.34 | tyras | xlibs is done, should I try ./configure again now? |
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| 19:44.57 | Aronofsky | hi |
| 19:45.17 | Aronofsky | i'd like to know, what is the best bittorent client to use on debian ? |
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| 19:45.39 | drac | Aronofsky: best one is what you'll find the best. |
| 19:45.44 | jethro | !best |
| 19:45.44 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 19:45.45 | tyras | :p |
| 19:46.11 | green_earz | Aronofsky: bittornado-gui |
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| 19:46.29 | tyras | checking for libz... configure: error: not found. Check your installation and look into config.log <--- another package that I need? |
| 19:46.37 | greycat | green_earz: ewww!, I bet you can't even run that in screen(1) across an SSH session |
| 19:46.44 | greycat | tyras: zlib1g-dev |
| 19:46.50 | phaedral | Aronofsky: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages is your friend |
| 19:46.53 | Aronofsky | drac, best for doin what a bittorent is supposed to do , downloadin files from bittorent network ... |
| 19:47.06 | greycat | Aronofsky: try several, pick the one you like msot. |
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| 19:47.30 | FieldySnuts | !locate warez |
| 19:47.37 | FieldySnuts | damn removed already i guess |
| 19:47.40 | Aronofsky | greycat, ok so what are the different clients that existed ? |
| 19:47.50 | greycat | Aronofsky: man apt-cache |
| 19:47.56 | greycat | Aronofsky: www.google.com |
| 19:48.07 | phaedral | greycat: already sent him to packages ;) |
| 19:48.16 | green_earz | Aronofsky: apt-cache show bittornado |
| 19:48.16 | greycat | (DAMN y'all are some lazy little bastards.) |
| 19:48.16 | tyras | greycat: apt-get install zlib1g-dev <-- I am learning :D |
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| 19:48.59 | Aronofsky | greycat, ok apt-cache , great ... but what should i search if i don't know the name of the soft .... |
| 19:49.08 | FieldySnuts | @handhold Aronofsky |
| 19:49.28 | greycat | Aronofsky: you search for *key words*. |
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| 19:49.35 | phaedral | Aronofsky: really, try the link i offered |
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| 19:49.59 | tyras | !apt |
| 19:49.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, apt is the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. Apt kicks ass. |
| 19:50.17 | tyras | lol@apt kicks ass |
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| 19:50.36 | tyras | checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! |
| 19:50.36 | tyras | For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log |
| 19:50.42 | tyras | what do I need now? |
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| 19:50.53 | FieldySnuts | probably look at config.log? |
| 19:51.01 | tyras | apt-get install Qt or something? |
| 19:51.02 | mikeX | tyras, some libqt-...-dev package |
| 19:51.04 | greycat | !faq tyras |
| 19:51.05 | dpkg | tyras: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 19:51.06 | FieldySnuts | somebody trying to be a gentoo user? |
| 19:51.06 | Delph | tyras: what are you actually trying to install? |
| 19:51.15 | tyras | k-mess |
| 19:51.19 | tyras | @delph |
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| 19:52.18 | Delph | tyras: look, just grab the .deb from their site and install that |
| 19:52.43 | Delph | eee, and it's not been updated since 2003 =:D |
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| 19:52.58 | Delph | lol |
| 19:52.59 | tyras | greycat: thanks for the link you sended me for the 4th time and I saw that you co-operatated, so its logical that you send me there, but i cant make any sence out of it |
| 19:53.21 | FieldySnuts | ow! hi |
| 19:53.27 | tyras | @delph, whats so funny about it? i just want to install the damn thing :( |
| 19:53.37 | FieldySnuts | @lart tyras |
| 19:53.47 | Delph | tyras: you're likely to go through all of this and at the end of it have a piece of software that just doesn't work. |
| 19:53.47 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Hello, dahling. |
| 19:53.51 | FieldySnuts | :) |
| 19:53.51 | tyras | Delph: I cant find a .deb, can you? |
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| 19:53.56 | Delph | tyras: 1.2.1 has one. |
| 19:54.03 | Delph | maybe you should look =:) |
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| 19:54.15 | tyras | Delph, 1.2.1 is even older ;) |
| 19:54.19 | Delph | anyhow, the project seems dead, and in the world of IM-lets-chase-after-microsoft |
| 19:54.23 | Delph | that means it won't work. |
| 19:54.35 | FieldySnuts | emulating shitty software usually ends up there. |
| 19:54.35 | Delph | so install gaim like the rest of the IM wannabes and have done with it. |
| 19:54.37 | tyras | it wont work? but i need msn :( |
| 19:54.41 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 19:54.42 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | Java -> /msg dpkg java | Spambots? /umode +E; Ask for an op | No, gnome 2.10 and kde 3.4 are not packaged yet | Sarge d-i rc3 out! /msg dpkg d-i | SARGE HAS FROZEN. |
| 19:54.43 | Delph | apt-get install gaim |
| 19:54.45 | FieldySnuts | gaim does it. |
| 19:54.50 | FieldySnuts | WHOA sarge froze! |
| 19:54.53 | Delph | nooo |
| 19:54.54 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 19:54.56 | FieldySnuts | @beer devs |
| 19:55.00 | jethro | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 19:55.05 | jethro | CHAMPAGNE! |
| 19:55.16 | FieldySnuts | I didn't think that'd happen till 2008 at least |
| 19:55.23 | jethro | hah |
| 19:55.25 | greycat | FieldySnuts: hey, it's not released yet. |
| 19:55.26 | dondelelcaro | well, it hasn't released yet.. |
| 19:55.29 | tyras | so after 20 apt deps, I still cant do anything? :( |
| 19:55.31 | jethro | hahaha |
| 19:55.31 | dondelelcaro | it's just frozen |
| 19:55.32 | FieldySnuts | greycat: i know. i put in 2009 for release L) |
| 19:55.38 | jethro | it's a start |
| 19:55.39 | greycat | tyras: you can do more than you could 20 deps ago. |
| 19:55.40 | FieldySnuts | yep I know what froze means |
| 19:55.44 | FieldySnuts | a great start |
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| 19:55.56 | greycat | tyras: for example, you could build something like xterm now. |
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| 19:56.11 | jethro | hah |
| 19:56.23 | greycat | tyras: but building KDE apps has a lot of infrastructure necessary |
| 19:56.36 | tyras | What is Sarge? something like that Woody stuff but then better? |
| 19:56.37 | greycat | a.k.a. "bloat" |
| 19:56.37 | jethro | stop it I can't help laughing |
| 19:56.38 | FieldySnuts | yeah like quad cpu servers |
| 19:56.40 | leonel | It finaly happen |
| 19:56.41 | greycat | !sarge |
| 19:56.42 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the current testing release code-name, and will be 3.1 when it's released. Ask me about <d-i> to get the installer. |
| 19:56.43 | leonel | GREAT ! |
| 19:56.46 | k-dog | From /proc/cpuinfo, which CPU is K6 & which K7? |
| 19:56.57 | greycat | k-dog: the one that says K6 is a K6. |
| 19:57.00 | furrywolf | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/03/ultra_thin_digital_divide/ <== seems to me like they just re-invented the X terminal... |
| 19:57.01 | tyras | @greycat, then why isnt it all in the basic install? |
| 19:57.02 | greycat | k-dog: /msg dpkg k7 |
| 19:57.06 | Seb | youhou, sarge is frozen |
| 19:57.07 | greycat | tyras: hahahahaha |
| 19:57.08 | greycat | !pal tyras |
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| 19:57.24 | FieldySnuts | hell it'd pry double or triple the install size. |
| 19:57.46 | FieldySnuts | all that qt and qt dev shit is huge |
| 19:57.46 | greycat | tyras: because "basic install users" a) don't want 500 MB of crap, and b) don't build KDE applications from source code. |
| 19:57.46 | stew | tyras: what are you trying to build in the first place? |
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| 19:57.53 | Delph | stew: a MSN IM tool from back in 2003 |
| 19:57.55 | greycat | stew: something apparently called "k-mess" |
| 19:57.58 | greycat | stew: whatever that is. |
| 19:58.09 | FieldySnuts | MSN blocks out most third party IM clients anyway, they were big on doing that in 2003 |
| 19:58.13 | tyras | I WAS building k-mess till someone said I didnt need it :( |
| 19:58.14 | streuner | WEEEEEEEEEEEEE, sarge is frozen!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:58.14 | Delph | tyras: 'apt-get install gaim' <- type that, then be happy. |
| 19:58.23 | stew | tyras: what does k-mess do? |
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| 19:58.30 | tyras | @delph I allready typed that |
| 19:58.34 | tyras | MSN client |
| 19:58.35 | greycat | tyras: so run gaim |
| 19:58.35 | streuner | jethro: give me something from your champagne ! :-) |
| 19:58.38 | Delph | tyras: then type gaim; and then you've got a MSN client. |
| 19:58.39 | Delph | happiness. |
| 19:58.41 | FieldySnuts | actually MSN changed major parts of their protocol. you will NOT be connecting to msn with something that old, period. |
| 19:58.47 | FieldySnuts | read that again... |
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| 19:59.10 | k-dog | greycat: kthx |
| 19:59.26 | stew | tyras: if you really want domething kde based use kopete |
| 19:59.41 | greycat | oh god... tomorrow all the /.ers are going to be here. |
| 19:59.44 | tyras | I just wanna use msn... :( |
| 19:59.44 | k-dog | greycat: Hrm. I'm getting oopses. |
| 19:59.47 | phaedral | is this sarge news really just happening now; like, I'm present for a historical moment? |
| 19:59.47 | MASoft | FieldySnuts, Gaim not connect ? |
| 19:59.51 | FieldySnuts | greycat: in droves. you think sunday was bad? |
| 19:59.52 | jethro | greycat: prepare for some action |
| 19:59.54 | FieldySnuts | MASoft: what? |
| 19:59.55 | tyras | !sarge |
| 19:59.55 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the current testing release code-name, and will be 3.1 when it's released. Ask me about <d-i> to get the installer. |
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| 20:00.20 | MASoft | FieldySnuts, Gaim is a MultiMessenger ! |
| 20:00.21 | greycat | k-dog: some detail would probably help. |
| 20:00.24 | k-dog | greycat: 2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 20:00.24 | tyras | so is sarge more like woody or more like R6? |
| 20:00.28 | stew | greycat: why what happened on slashdot? |
| 20:00.35 | jethro | tyras: r what? |
| 20:00.35 | FieldySnuts | MASoft: why are you telling me this? |
| 20:00.36 | greycat | stew: they'll say sarge froze. |
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| 20:00.43 | k-dog | greycat: Yeah. I'm trying to figure if I've got the right kernel. |
| 20:00.47 | tyras | So now I did that Gain.... and then? where do I start it? |
| 20:00.49 | greycat | stew: hell, they'll probably say it released, knowing how stupid they are. |
| 20:00.53 | FieldySnuts | greycat: Phated probably submitted it ;) blame her! |
| 20:00.58 | MASoft | FieldySnuts, actually MSN changed major parts of their protocol. you will NOT be connecting to msn with something that old, period. |
| 20:00.58 | greycat | k-dog: what CPU? |
| 20:01.02 | jethro | greycat: hah |
| 20:01.04 | Phated | AI! |
| 20:01.09 | stew | oh did i miss an announcement |
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| 20:01.11 | k-dog | model name: AMD Athlon(tm) |
| 20:01.15 | k-dog | greycat: ^^ |
| 20:01.16 | greycat | k-dog: then it's a k7. |
| 20:01.20 | k-dog | greycat: Right. |
| 20:01.22 | mikeX | frozen <- no more packages in or what? |
| 20:01.24 | sussudio | Phated: http://img51.echo.cx/img51/4244/2321914ek.jpg |
| 20:01.28 | k-dog | greycat: Currently running 386 kernel. |
| 20:01.29 | greycat | mikeX: no changes except bug fixes |
| 20:01.30 | tyras | jethro: Like 3.0R6... its 3.1R7 or something? |
| 20:01.33 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Submitted -what-? |
| 20:01.40 | mikeX | greycat, i see, thx |
| 20:01.42 | greycat | tyras: you can't have 3.1R7 until 7 releases later than 3.1. |
| 20:01.43 | MASoft | FieldySnuts, I have gaim 7.9, Do u know I can connect with it to msn or not ? |
| 20:01.44 | Phated | sussudio: Eeeee. |
| 20:01.46 | jethro | tyras: sarge will be 3.1 when it's released |
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| 20:01.59 | Delph | MASoft: try it. |
| 20:02.11 | Delph | MASoft: however, the rest of us were talking about another program. |
| 20:02.12 | FieldySnuts | MASoft: you aren't making any sense to me, and pasting what I already said. i have no idea what you're tryin to do. |
| 20:02.13 | Cyis | gaim 7.9? from where? I only have gaim 1.2.1 |
| 20:02.19 | greycat | dpkg, sarge =~ s/installer./installer. Sarge is now FROZEN (no changes except bug fixes)./ |
| 20:02.20 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 20:02.29 | tyras | ahh so 3.0R6 is the 6th release after 3.0 :D I understand |
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| 20:02.48 | k-dog | greycat: ...'coz of the oopses on K7 |
| 20:02.50 | MASoft | Delph, it's needed to signup first ! if it not work, It's better to not waste my time ! |
| 20:02.51 | FieldySnuts | i was making the point that k-mess, being over 2 years old, was before MSN changed parts of their protocol. the point is, that software will not be able to connect. gaim can, as it's very active and updated. |
| 20:02.52 | tyras | But I still wanna know how I start Gaim |
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| 20:02.59 | greycat | tyras: type "gaim" |
| 20:03.04 | Delph | MASoft: it's MSN. it's defined as a waste of your time. |
| 20:03.04 | FieldySnuts | geez type gaim already |
| 20:03.05 | greycat | (not as root) |
| 20:03.14 | tyras | My god! it works :p |
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| 20:03.31 | tyras | it worked :( |
| 20:03.32 | tyras | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 |
| 20:03.37 | FieldySnuts | not as root. |
| 20:03.39 | k-dog | greycat: Anything in particular from an oops that would be relevant? |
| 20:03.41 | greycat | tyras: not as root. |
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| 20:03.48 | jethro | hah |
| 20:03.48 | tyras | lol, I aint root |
| 20:03.53 | greycat | k-dog: not to me. I don't hack kernels. |
| 20:04.00 | greycat | tyras: as the user who started X. |
| 20:04.01 | tyras | but I typed us, is that it? |
| 20:04.11 | greycat | tyras: su makes you root, usually. |
| 20:04.12 | unkn0wn | i still dont understand how you download debian |
| 20:04.13 | jethro | greycat: do you have some kind of crystal ball to foresee problems? |
| 20:04.17 | tyras | how do i DE-su |
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| 20:04.24 | greycat | !tell unkn0wn about d-i |
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| 20:04.30 | FieldySnuts | Tyrant: 'exit' |
| 20:04.30 | greycat | unkn0wn: you go there and READ. |
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| 20:04.34 | MASoft | tyras use xhost to can use GUI in su mode |
| 20:04.38 | greycat | unkn0wn: if you can't READ, then debian will not work for you. |
| 20:04.48 | greycat | !smite MASoft |
| 20:04.49 | stew | MASoft: never use xhost |
| 20:04.51 | greycat | tyras: NEVER use xhost. |
| 20:04.53 | unkn0wn | thnx greycat |
| 20:04.56 | FieldySnuts | greycat: already ignored that one... |
| 20:05.00 | reto_ | ssh -X <host> xcalc |
| 20:05.01 | unkn0wn | for trying to help me |
| 20:05.03 | reto_ | Error: Can't open display: localhost:11.0 |
| 20:05.04 | tyras | exit did it :D |
| 20:05.08 | tyras | and it starts :D |
| 20:05.09 | reto_ | hmm.. can anybody help? |
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| 20:05.13 | tyras | man, me is happpy :D |
| 20:05.20 | greycat | reto_: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 20:05.30 | MASoft | stew, why ? |
| 20:05.36 | seldon | Argh, this is driving me nuts. cryptsetup hates me, always comes back with "command failed: invalid argument". |
| 20:05.48 | seldon | I can't figure out why it does that. |
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| 20:05.54 | FieldySnuts | @cheer tyras |
| 20:05.57 | MASoft | stew, I'm back of Firewall ! |
| 20:06.01 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: moo |
| 20:06.02 | ravenbird | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ |
| 20:06.03 | stew | MASoft: becuase xhost is very insecure and there are plenty of more secure ways of sharing xauth data |
| 20:06.07 | stew | MASoft: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 20:06.18 | stew | MASoft: is tyras? |
| 20:06.23 | greycat | !tell MASoft about sshx |
| 20:06.36 | k-dog | greycat: http://channels.debian.net/paste/82 |
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| 20:06.45 | MASoft | ok, thx ! |
| 20:06.48 | FieldySnuts | ~smite xchat for not having -replies option to ignore like irssi (wish i could code sometimes) |
| 20:06.51 | k-dog | greycat: Oops, bracketed by and of prior boot, start o fnext |
| 20:06.55 | greycat | FieldySnuts: use irssi. |
| 20:06.58 | reto_ | greycat: thanks, but i did dhat |
| 20:07.05 | k-dog | !smite greycat for not running irssi |
| 20:07.13 | reto_ | greycat: DISPLAY is set..but I stell get this error message |
| 20:07.14 | greycat | k-dog: /ctcp greycat version |
| 20:07.26 | seldon | Do I need anything besides dm-crypt support and the cryptoapi cyphers to set up an encrypted partition? |
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| 20:07.40 | k-dog | greycat: I ctcp corrected. |
| 20:07.56 | greycat | k-dog: so it dies after "unable to map card memory"? sounds like a PCMCIA issue to me. |
| 20:08.03 | k-dog | greycat: No, that's unrelated. |
| 20:08.10 | greycat | k-dog: I doubt it. |
| 20:08.16 | k-dog | greycat: ...though I think not having PCMCI modules loaded was an issue. |
| 20:08.24 | k-dog | greycat: No, trust, it's unrelated. Timestamps |
| 20:08.36 | k-dog | greycat: That's 6 minutes prior to the oops |
| 20:08.43 | greycat | k-dog: and, uh, this *is* the -386 kernel. |
| 20:09.02 | k-dog | greycat: No, *that* was the k7 kernel. |
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| 20:09.12 | greycat | May 3 12:45:28 localhost kernel: Linux version 2.4.27-2-386 (horms@charles.lab |
| 20:09.23 | jethro | tyras: you installed woody for a desktop use? |
| 20:09.23 | Finger|lespotos | Hello / bonjour |
| 20:09.26 | jethro | !fr |
| 20:09.26 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 20:09.38 | tyras | !nl |
| 20:09.38 | dpkg | .NL is the Netherlands. See http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nl.html |
| 20:09.46 | greycat | !dutch |
| 20:09.46 | dpkg | dutch is, like, soome straangje laanguaage daat sussudio kjeeps spjeeaaking, or #debian.nl |
| 20:09.47 | tyras | jammer :p |
| 20:09.50 | k-dog | greycat: That's the next boot. |
| 20:09.53 | FieldySnuts | yeah. now there's a reputable source of info (cia) |
| 20:09.59 | FieldySnuts | no chance of falsehoods there |
| 20:10.02 | kerneld | Yay for the sarge flavoured frosy! |
| 20:10.03 | jethro | heh |
| 20:10.04 | k-dog | greycat: I *was* running K7. I *am* running 386 (as a fallback/safemode) |
| 20:10.08 | kerneld | frosty |
| 20:10.15 | greycat | k-dog: in any case, I can't fix your kernel bug. |
| 20:10.24 | greycat | k-dog: submit it to someone more powerful than I. |
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| 20:11.26 | k-dog | greycat: kthx |
| 20:11.26 | k-dog | greycat: know any black cats? |
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| 20:11.30 | FieldySnuts | isn't that a bit racist? /hides |
| 20:11.38 | greycat | none that I'd turn over to a dog. |
| 20:11.59 | Finger|lespotos | I search help on smp if it possible :) |
| 20:12.24 | FieldySnuts | reminds me of ali g show he's talkin to ATF guys and they mentioned the black labs are best, so ali g asks them if it's a bit 'racialist' to have the 'brothers' do the dangerous work, heh moron |
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| 20:13.19 | k-dog | greycat: ;-) |
| 20:13.38 | chrysopa | Hi, I have problems with netatalk, The shared home directory is showed in MacOS 9.2, but I cannot mount it. Any Idea? |
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| 20:14.16 | hundra | goodevening |
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| 20:15.32 | hundra | is there any way of preloading modules in the new sarge installer as there were in the woody one? which is the simplest way of inserting a module (a hpt 1820a raid module) during the installation? |
| 20:15.52 | greycat | !software raid |
| 20:15.52 | dpkg | software raid is, like, the pet rock of the 2000s. One day you're going to look back at this and wonder "My GOD! What was I *thinking*?" |
| 20:16.12 | dondelelcaro | hundra: well, most of the modules are actually on the installation disks... but if you need a different one, just get it onto the cd somehow, and load it. |
| 20:16.16 | yuber | where can i do good a export for one user by login or system start? |
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| 20:16.24 | yuber | -bashrc in home dont work |
| 20:16.25 | greycat | !confuse yuber |
| 20:16.26 | dpkg | No, how was my pants yesterday, yuber? pants of the dictatorship of liechtenstein with extra cream |
| 20:16.33 | chrysopa | Hi, I have problems with netatalk, The shared home directory is showed in MacOS 9.2, but I cannot mount it. Any Idea? |
| 20:16.39 | greycat | !wikifaq yuber DotFiles |
| 20:16.40 | dpkg | yuber: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 20:16.59 | yuber | i mean i want load a export = abcadsfa by login |
| 20:17.02 | yuber | for one user |
| 20:17.19 | acidc0re__ | .bashrc ? |
| 20:17.21 | ln_ | can i use environment variables in .install files? |
| 20:17.31 | yuber | .bashrc dont work. dont know why.... |
| 20:17.33 | greycat | in *what* files? |
| 20:17.39 | greycat | !wikifaq yuber DotFiles |
| 20:17.39 | acidc0re__ | hmmz |
| 20:17.40 | dpkg | yuber: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 20:17.40 | reto_ | greycat: I didn't had a localhost entry in my hosts file.. strange soultion |
| 20:17.51 | ln_ | the debian .install files |
| 20:18.00 | hundra | dondelelcaro: that's the easiest way of solving it? there ought to be a problem when the machine reboots for base-installation and the module isn't there? Should i also replace the kernel that the installer installs per default? |
| 20:18.06 | greycat | ln_: can you show me an example of one of these alleged files? |
| 20:18.07 | ln_ | the ones that specify which file go into which package |
| 20:18.30 | dondelelcaro | hundra: you can do that if you wish, or you can just make sure the module makes it into the base intird. |
| 20:19.07 | Finger|lespotos | I search some help about how ordering tasks on an smp system, or how to attribute one tasks to one or other processors |
| 20:19.09 | ln_ | greycat: do you want me to send one to you? there are plenty in the debian source packages |
| 20:19.16 | Finger|lespotos | If someone could help me :) |
| 20:19.32 | dondelelcaro | Finger|lespotos: you shouldn't ever need to bother about that. |
| 20:19.44 | greycat | ln_: this is a channel full of users.... |
| 20:19.57 | ln_ | ah ok. where is one with devels? |
| 20:20.13 | Finger|lespotos | that's because i have some game server on the server |
| 20:20.15 | hundra | dondelelcaro: where would the base initrd be during base-installation? Isn't it located within one of the kernel-images? |
| 20:20.24 | dondelelcaro | ln_: the .install files are debhelper specific. They have nothing to do with how the package are actually constructed. |
| 20:20.25 | stew | ln_: #debian-mentors |
| 20:20.32 | stew | ln_: man dh_install maybe |
| 20:20.41 | Finger|lespotos | and one is more eater on proc ressources |
| 20:20.53 | Finger|lespotos | than the two other tasks |
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| 20:21.11 | dondelelcaro | Finger|lespotos: eh? it doesn't matter... the kernel is intelligent enough to parcel the processes that are running between the processors. |
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| 20:21.30 | Finger|lespotos | my tasks are unfortunately monothread |
| 20:21.39 | Finger|lespotos | I don't say my kernel is idiot :) |
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| 20:21.50 | dondelelcaro | Finger|lespotos: well, then you have to fix that. |
| 20:21.55 | Finger|lespotos | yes :) |
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| 20:22.15 | Finger|lespotos | because my os load in priority one processor and after the other if the one is saturated |
| 20:22.29 | Finger|lespotos | so my server is not optimised |
| 20:22.52 | geemark | I am trying to get my touchpad working on my Dell 500m with the xfree86-driver-synaptics driver, and it works fine at first sight, but neither tapping or scrolling works - any ideas? |
| 20:23.05 | dondelelcaro | Finger|lespotos: uh, you're not making any sense. If you don't have threaded applications, they can only run on a single processor at one time. The kernel will partition them between the processors appropriately. |
| 20:23.21 | greycat | Finger|lespotos: CPUs aren't like buckets of water. They can't be "half busy". They're either *IDLE* or *NOT IDLE*. |
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| 20:23.37 | Finger|lespotos | ;) |
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| 20:24.03 | kerneld | Anyone have any predictions on what kind of release cycle is sustainable after sarge goes stable? |
| 20:24.07 | Finger|lespotos | I just want to say that actually, when i have my 3 tasks (2 CS server and one Battlefied) |
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| 20:24.19 | Finger|lespotos | they are all loaded on the first processor |
| 20:24.24 | benjamindees | kerneld, no less than 24 months |
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| 20:24.36 | greycat | Finger|lespotos: how do you know this? |
| 20:24.39 | Finger|lespotos | when this processor is full, one task or 2 are loaded on the second processor |
| 20:24.46 | kerneld | 1 release a year? 1 release per major desktop iteration once it is stable? |
| 20:24.50 | loke- | is there a linux version or simialr app to lotus notes? |
| 20:24.52 | greycat | Finger|lespotos: make up your mind. |
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| 20:25.06 | dondelelcaro | kerneld: eh? |
| 20:25.07 | loke- | !beer everyone |
| 20:25.07 | kerneld | loke-: opengroupware ? |
| 20:25.09 | Finger|lespotos | top and after i type i |
| 20:25.22 | Finger|lespotos | and i could see the second processor |
| 20:25.39 | loke- | kerneld does that work as a lotusnotes email client? |
| 20:25.44 | Finger|lespotos | greycat sorry i dont 'understand your last sentecnce |
| 20:25.53 | MobyTurbo | kerneld: it's been 3 years since the last stable release, and there are no plans that I know of to make it a yearly cycle |
| 20:25.57 | kerneld | loke: No, it is not compatible |
| 20:25.58 | abrotman | what does kerneld have to do with lotus notes? |
| 20:25.58 | Finger|lespotos | maybe i do something wrong :-( |
| 20:26.00 | phaedral | yum, yuenglin! |
| 20:26.01 | greycat | Finger|lespotos: you said they're all on one CPU. Then you said they're spread across both CPUs. |
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| 20:26.02 | abrotman | loke-: and call IBM .. ask them |
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| 20:26.06 | greycat | Finger|lespotos: so, make up your mind. Which one is it |
| 20:26.08 | greycat | ? |
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| 20:26.12 | Trewas | Finger|lespotos: cpu affinity is the term to search for if you want to bind processes to specific processors, thought generally you should not and let the scheduler do its job |
| 20:26.29 | loke- | abrotman fuck ibm |
| 20:26.34 | Finger|lespotos | thanks trewas |
| 20:26.42 | greycat | loke-: they, uh, own Lotus. |
| 20:26.54 | kerneld | loke-: Well then get rid of lotus notes from your net :P |
| 20:26.56 | loke- | greycat ok |
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| 20:27.03 | loke- | bye |
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| 20:27.57 | Finger|lespotos | i just say in normal time, they are on one cpu, and when the cpu has too more load, one or more tasks get on the second cpu :) |
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| 20:28.06 | LSchiere2 | someone told tyras to apt-get gaim to use msn on debian stable |
| 20:28.13 | Finger|lespotos | it's possible i'm not very clare, sorry for my poor english |
| 20:28.18 | LSchiere2 | problem: debian stable has 0.58, that won't work with msn |
| 20:28.24 | LSchiere2 | which is what he was asking about |
| 20:28.25 | greycat | LSchiere2: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 20:28.37 | greycat | tyras: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
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| 20:29.34 | LSchiere2 | *amused* so you're suggesting he upgrade to testing off of stable also |
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| 20:29.48 | greycat | LSchiere2: frankly, yes. but you can </msg dpkg backports> if you prefer. |
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| 20:30.11 | Finger|lespotos | thanks for your help :) |
| 20:30.45 | cheal | LSchiere2: thanks for coming, but you'd better talk to that person. I think most helpers here are aware that Gaim 0.58 has limited use |
| 20:30.46 | LSchiere2 | I'm just slightly annoyed that you all still distribute 0.5x, I complain to robot101 about it periodically |
| 20:30.50 | benjamindees | tyras, what the hell are you trying to compile, anyways? |
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| 20:30.57 | cheal | LSchiere2: heh |
| 20:31.09 | greycat | benjamindees: he *was* trying to compile some 2-year-old KDE specific MSN client. |
| 20:31.15 | tyras | Nothing anymore :| |
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| 20:31.26 | cheal | LSchiere2: I think you're busy enough with Gaim already, don't get in the business of helping to release Sarge too |
| 20:31.30 | greycat | LSchiere2: you can't change stable. That's what "stable" means. Doesn't change. |
| 20:31.42 | LSchiere2 | cheal: lol, no, I wouldn't. I'd just suggest you utterly pull gaim from stable ;-) |
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| 20:32.30 | cheal | LSchiere2: well, I heard something about debian-volatile, I don't know if that could help (maybe, post-sarge) |
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| 20:32.42 | kristiank | install sarge : juste after choosing the default ispell dictionary, the sarge installer ask for a dictionary "word list" to chopse among several. How to change later ? I failed when using base-config. |
| 20:32.54 | benjamindees | greycat, MSN as in the ISP? |
| 20:32.55 | LSchiere2 | *nods* from what little I heard of it, yes, that would help cheal. one can hope at least :-) |
| 20:33.21 | greycat | tyras: most people who want flashy things like MSN will probably not be happy on Woody anyway. You may want to upgrade to sarge for other reasons besides just GAIM (although that should be sufficient by itself). |
| 20:33.22 | MobyTurbo | kristiank: "dpkg-reconfigure package-name" |
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| 20:34.42 | kristiank | thanks a lot |
| 20:34.43 | Delph | LSchiere2: well, rob's a little busy anyway =:/ |
| 20:34.49 | benjamindees | tyras, try backports.org if all you want is gaim |
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| 20:35.18 | benjamindees | tyras, but unless you have a need to stay on Woody, upgrading to testing is better |
| 20:36.07 | tyras | greycat: well then why is aint it announced that the stable version isnt any good, when you download debian for the first time? (does anyone know how hard it is being a newby in linux? :( ) |
| 20:36.24 | LSchiere2 | stable version IS still good, for servers |
| 20:36.27 | LSchiere2 | not for desktops |
| 20:36.41 | greycat | tyras: have you even LOOKED at our FAQ yet? |
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| 20:37.06 | STK_ToNhO_ | LSchiere2: i dont like, i prefer sarge in servers |
| 20:37.18 | PerfDave | Woody's perfectly fine for desktops, really. |
| 20:37.29 | tyras | greycat: I DID! really after 6 times linking to it, I nearly read every page, but I can understand shit out of it :| |
| 20:37.42 | directhex | as long as the desktop dates from 2001 or earlier |
| 20:37.43 | kaiowa | hi when i tried to type apt-get update it get this err:E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room, E: Error occured while processing debconf (NewVersion1), any help plz??? |
| 20:37.49 | LSchiere2 | other than as it relates to gaim, I tend to like debian, though I do use sid, not stable, for my desktops ;-) |
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| 20:37.52 | stew | kaiowa: /msg dpkg dynamic mmap |
| 20:37.53 | PerfDave | directhex: No, we're still installing Woody on new machines. |
| 20:37.59 | MASoft | PerfDave, it's old ! most of things I need don't support in Woody |
| 20:38.10 | directhex | and the expectations of using linux on the desktop don't exceed, well, rather ass |
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| 20:38.26 | benjamindees | tyras, you're right it should be more obvious, but Woody is quite satisfactory for 90% of things, and testing can have its own problems |
| 20:38.28 | PerfDave | directhex: My users are used to Win98SE ;) |
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| 20:39.00 | cheal | LSchiere2: cool :) |
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| 20:39.25 | TimbrWolf | anyone using totem with amd64? |
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| 20:39.31 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 20:39.32 | dpkg | methinks amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
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| 20:39.46 | saabin | hello, how to search recursively grep -R "myword" /dir/ ? |
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| 20:40.00 | rue_mohr | err |
| 20:40.02 | rue_mohr | how about |
| 20:40.12 | rue_mohr | grep -R myword /dir |
| 20:40.22 | furrywolf | lol |
| 20:40.31 | TimbrWolf | ok, I will check that....tia |
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| 20:40.50 | saabin | rue_mohr: no |
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| 20:41.11 | simonrvn | i use -r if i want a recursive grep |
| 20:41.23 | streuner | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00001.html |
| 20:41.44 | crashbg | where can i find informafion bout routing internet from 2-3 ISPs? |
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| 20:42.01 | PerfDave | crashbg: /msg dpkg lartc |
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| 20:42.33 | anarcat | hmmm |
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| 20:42.57 | k-dog | greycat: FYI, oopses seem to be HW, getting them in 386 as well. |
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| 20:43.10 | k-dog | anarcat: Step in the bathtub! |
| 20:43.11 | simonrvn | "Sarge is now frozen! Wheeeeeee!!!" |
| 20:43.17 | anarcat | does this mean postfix 2.2 won't make it into sarge? |
| 20:43.20 | k-dog | simonrvn: Oooh... |
| 20:43.25 | cheal | simonrvn: Yayayayay! :) |
| 20:43.28 | simonrvn | :D |
| 20:43.34 | streuner | anarcat: read http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00001.html |
| 20:43.36 | furrywolf | sarge frozen, woody on ice? :P |
| 20:43.45 | anarcat | streuner: ok |
| 20:43.47 | k-dog | I'm trying to set up lmsensors. Says I need to mount sysfs. How? |
| 20:43.57 | streuner | heh |
| 20:44.03 | simonrvn | mount -t sysfs sys /sys |
| 20:44.07 | simonrvn | ? |
| 20:44.08 | streuner | k-dog: use an official kernel, done |
| 20:44.10 | k-dog | simonrvn: Dank |
| 20:44.12 | greycat | furrywolf: woody's been held in the army as a "stop-loss" measure. |
| 20:44.18 | k-dog | streuner: ?? |
| 20:44.20 | k-dog | streuner: I am. |
| 20:44.34 | cheal | k-dog: I'd check that it's not already with $ mount |
| 20:44.35 | greycat | furrywolf: woody can't retire until sarge finishes boot camp |
| 20:44.36 | k-dog | simonrvn: Not supported. |
| 20:44.39 | streuner | k-dog: just install lm-sensors and run 'sensors-detect' |
| 20:44.41 | furrywolf | greycat: heh |
| 20:44.47 | simonrvn | k-dog: check the init script |
| 20:44.49 | abrotman | simonrvn: gonads and strife ? |
| 20:44.49 | streuner | k-dog: uname -a |
| 20:44.54 | jcb | do anyone know a website with benchmarks of ext2, ext3 and reiserfs? |
| 20:44.56 | k-dog | simonrvn: ... |
| 20:45.01 | k-dog | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 20:45.07 | k-dog | I think that's the problem ^^ |
| 20:45.13 | simonrvn | duh, there is no sysfs in 2.4 |
| 20:45.18 | anarcat | streuner: so in short, it would mean that 2.2 *could* get in if all its release-critical bugs get fixed? |
| 20:45.19 | k-dog | /sys is 2.6+ |
| 20:45.20 | k-dog | Yeah. |
| 20:45.24 | k-dog | <sigh> |
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| 20:45.37 | streuner | anarcat: no |
| 20:45.58 | anarcat | streuner: ok, what did i miss? :) |
| 20:45.59 | abrotman | unless something is critically wrong with 2.0 |
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| 20:46.13 | abrotman | as in .. it is totally unusable trash |
| 20:46.25 | k-dog | simonrvn: Getting 2.6 386 kernel... |
| 20:46.25 | streuner | anarcat: read it ones again carefully |
| 20:46.34 | cheal | k-dog: check the BTS. Aurelien Jarno tolerates no bug on his package |
| 20:46.41 | k-dog | cheal: ?? |
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| 20:46.59 | cheal | k-dog: I opened a bug about a similar issue and it was fixes quickly |
| 20:47.00 | batman | i have this problem, after about 1/2 an hour using debian, it looses connection to the internet. i get right ip adress , but no connection . |
| 20:47.00 | k-dog | cheal: I'm running 2.4 ATM, installing 2.6 386 kernel. |
| 20:47.02 | michal_ | hi.. i have a little problem I'm trying to find a solution to.. i have a dhcpd which seems to fail after a while.. but the BIGGER problem is that debian machines seem to lose their default route if they can't renew from the dhcpd.. is there any way to prevent this? other operating systems on the network doesn't seem to do this so I'm hoping it's configurable under linux |
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| 20:47.15 | k-dog | batman: What's your connection? |
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| 20:47.28 | k-dog | batman: ...and you may need to modify tcp_keepalive in /proc |
| 20:47.32 | batman | LAN |
| 20:47.36 | cheal | k-dog: is it an lm-sensors bug, or whatever you want really needs 2.6? |
| 20:47.47 | k-dog | cheal: I need 2.6 |
| 20:47.50 | Rayen | hi, i was wondering if the standard 'linux kernel-image' from apt-get does have iptables enabled? |
| 20:47.56 | cheal | k-dog: ok |
| 20:48.01 | furrywolf | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21166&item=7512439906&rd=1 <== that looks fun. $32 shipping though. :( |
| 20:48.04 | benjamindees | batman, do you have to reboot or does ifdown/ifup fix it? |
| 20:48.08 | k-dog | batman: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_* |
| 20:48.12 | k-dog | batman: ...not sure which. |
| 20:48.14 | kerneld | Rayen: Yes |
| 20:48.20 | anarcat | streuner: not sure I read it different the second time |
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| 20:48.24 | abrotman | simonrvn: after reading that .. i'm still very skeptical |
| 20:48.28 | anarcat | i guess I should report the bug that annoys me with 2.1... |
| 20:48.35 | kerneld | Rayen: try sudo uptables -L |
| 20:48.37 | stew | anarcat: postfix doesn't have any rc bugs which would be fixed by a newer version |
| 20:48.37 | batman | ok all google about that ty |
| 20:48.42 | abrotman | anarcat: don't feel bad .. i'm going to report an RC bug tonight when i get home :) |
| 20:48.45 | kerneld | err iptables |
| 20:48.52 | batman | ifup doesnt work |
| 20:48.55 | anarcat | hmmm |
| 20:49.01 | batman | it says its ok but it isnt |
| 20:49.03 | anarcat | i guess it would be release critical |
| 20:49.04 | abrotman | Rayen: yes .. it has those modules |
| 20:49.08 | anarcat | how's that defined? |
| 20:49.12 | anarcat | maybe not... |
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| 20:49.22 | abrotman | anarcat: i believe bugs.debian.org has definitions |
| 20:49.23 | k-dog | batman: ifupdown is convenient but unreliable. |
| 20:49.29 | k-dog | batman: 'ifconfig' is authoritative. |
| 20:49.30 | stew | anarcat: the 2 current rc bugs look like they are are both bugs in the debian scripts, not bugs in the code, so no reason to go to a newer upstream version |
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| 20:49.47 | tkooda | what's a good (small/simple?) rtsp/rtp server nowdays? |
| 20:49.48 | mngrif | how does one do something like "Press enter to continue..." in sh? |
| 20:49.59 | abrotman | anarcat: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities |
| 20:50.02 | greycat | mngrif: read -p "press enter to continue" |
| 20:50.02 | anarcat | stew: i'll give you a reason ;) |
| 20:50.06 | anarcat | abrotman: thanks! |
| 20:50.07 | mngrif | greycat: thank you |
| 20:50.29 | abrotman | aw crap . i guess mine is only important .. bah |
| 20:50.29 | simonrvn | Joey Schulze of the security team has given the thumbs-up for official |
| 20:50.29 | simonrvn | security support for sarge as of the time of the freeze. Which is now. |
| 20:50.42 | stew | whee |
| 20:50.45 | anarcat | ok |
| 20:50.47 | abrotman | i think it should be grave .. since anyone upgrading gnome from woody->sarge apparently won't be able to use the package |
| 20:51.00 | anarcat | so i guess it's a serious bug, it would be release critical then |
| 20:51.02 | streuner | simonrvn: well, securtiy update starts now for sarge |
| 20:51.05 | abrotman | simonrvn: so now security.debian.org will start for sarge ? |
| 20:51.10 | streuner | yes |
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| 20:51.14 | anarcat | yay! |
| 20:51.22 | anarcat | thanks everyone |
| 20:51.28 | stew | anarcat: what bug are you talking about? |
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| 20:51.56 | stew | abrotman: if its a problem in the upgrade path its probably again not a bug that would be fixed upstream |
| 20:51.58 | simonrvn | And if everything goes well, we'll be ready to release at the end of the month. |
| 20:52.00 | anarcat | stew: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#alias_maps |
| 20:52.10 | abrotman | HAH! .. .. looks like we'll beat duke nukem! |
| 20:52.11 | anarcat | stew: proxy maps are not ignored when not usable |
| 20:52.28 | anarcat | stew: this makes postfix-mysql hard to use, and proxymap mostly useless |
| 20:52.29 | abrotman | stew: actually .. the maintainer has no idea what's going on .. could actually be an upstream issue |
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| 20:52.51 | greycat | ``And if everything goes well, we'll be ready to release at the end of the month.'' |
| 20:53.00 | stew | anarcat: doens't sound RC to me |
| 20:53.01 | greycat | !pal Debian Release Managers |
| 20:53.01 | anarcat | stew: does that make sense? |
| 20:53.01 | oskie | is slashdot still rendered incorrectly on Firefox 1.0.3? or is my installation broken somehow. |
| 20:53.01 | _be | anyone ever heard about itsun (/etc/rc.d/rc2.d/Sinitsun) backdoor? |
| 20:53.06 | anarcat | stew: :( |
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| 20:53.42 | anarcat | this sucks |
| 20:53.47 | cheal | oskie: it did it for me in 1.0.2 minimum |
| 20:53.55 | oskie | _be: did you try 'chkrootkit'? |
| 20:54.05 | oskie | cheal: weird. it looks ok in 1.0.3 in windows, but not here in linux |
| 20:54.27 | stew | _be: does /etc/rc.d even exist in debian? |
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| 20:54.34 | greycat | stew: no |
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| 20:54.47 | abrotman | eww .. it's a RH worm! |
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| 20:55.11 | _be | stew: that is not a point |
| 20:55.23 | abrotman | _be: did you try google? |
| 20:55.49 | _be | abrotman: are you seriouse? Google is my first tools |
| 20:55.56 | abrotman | _be: and you found nothing? |
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| 20:56.10 | _be | abrotman: exacly, RH worm. |
| 20:56.17 | michal_ | so nobody can help me with this debian dhcp networking problem? :/ |
| 20:56.23 | abrotman | _be: does your machine have oracle installed ? |
| 20:56.32 | _be | abrotman: no |
| 20:56.37 | zePh7r | how to install a pkg with kpackage along with all needed dependecies? |
| 20:56.55 | michal_ | looks like i HAVE to use a static networking config for now :/ |
| 20:56.55 | abrotman | _be: well .. why don't you look in the init file and see what it is ? |
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| 20:57.05 | abrotman | _be: boot off a live CD first |
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| 20:57.20 | _be | abrotman: i have disabled this shit. But how it come in, and how its is working? |
| 20:57.38 | abrotman | _be: no idea .. my machines aren't infected |
| 20:57.40 | jade | what is the proper syntax for rcp? |
| 20:57.46 | cheal | !nickometer zePh7r |
| 20:57.47 | dpkg | 'zePh7r' is 32.000% lame, cheal |
| 20:58.02 | cheal | zePh7r: are you sure you want to use kpackage? |
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| 20:58.08 | _be | abrotman: mine too. but how was infected....apache bug? |
| 20:58.09 | abrotman | zePh7r: stupid nick .. and apt-get install kpackage |
| 20:58.14 | jcb | is ext3 faster than reiserfs? |
| 20:58.18 | abrotman | _be: nfc ... i have no idea what's on those machines |
| 20:58.20 | abrotman | !fs comparison |
| 20:58.21 | dpkg | i guess filesystem comparison is http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html or http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ |
| 20:58.24 | abrotman | first link |
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| 20:58.32 | abrotman | second is good reading |
| 20:58.39 | zePh7r | perhaps apt-get. what opt for install all dependencies along? |
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| 20:58.49 | _be | abrotman: give me good url source where i can find backdoors info like this? |
| 20:58.50 | abrotman | zePh7r: are you running debian? |
| 20:58.50 | cheal | streuner: yeah, that was a long time ago :) |
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| 20:59.04 | abrotman | _be: not me .. i have no idea .. google is where i would have looked |
| 20:59.04 | cheal | zePh7r: what's your release? |
| 20:59.18 | zePh7r | no knoppix which is debian based |
| 20:59.22 | streuner | cheal: heh, 4-5 years ago |
| 20:59.22 | abrotman | #knoppix |
| 20:59.35 | abrotman | zePh7r: you're in the wrong channel |
| 20:59.43 | _be | abrotman: ok. |
| 20:59.44 | cheal | streuner: kpackage development stopped about that time. I guess it was great then |
| 20:59.50 | zePh7r | hey it's a debian general command! |
| 20:59.58 | abrotman | hey .. it's knoppix |
| 21:00.08 | zePh7r | ok then |
| 21:00.11 | streuner | cheal: i had no idea about apt-get or dpkg or _dselect_ so it helps a lot |
| 21:00.11 | dondelelcaro | zePh7r: we don't support knoppix here. Try #knoppix |
| 21:00.15 | abrotman | !d-i zePh7r |
| 21:00.16 | dpkg | zePh7r, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 21:00.20 | cheal | zePh7r: this is a support channel for debian |
| 21:00.20 | abrotman | if you want our help .. sorry |
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| 21:00.47 | zePh7r | ok thanks |
| 21:00.55 | cheal | streuner: yeah, if synaptic didn't exist, I may still use kpackage (well, maybe) |
| 21:01.08 | herregud_ | anyone have a link to a decient discription of how to recompile a noew kernel in Debian |
| 21:01.24 | dondelelcaro | !kp mantra |
| 21:01.24 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image; |
| 21:01.29 | dondelelcaro | !tell herregud_ about kp |
| 21:01.46 | streuner | cheal: well, in the past you could use kpackage within any DE or wm, nowadays you need to run KDE |
| 21:02.05 | coruptkid | anyone here know how to get an ATI radeon 9200 module working on Debian 3r5?? |
| 21:02.16 | cheal | streuner: ah...I didn't know that. surprising |
| 21:03.09 | MidgetSpy | when I boot up my new sarge install I noticed it starts up AppleTalk (which I have no use for). how can I disable this? |
| 21:03.21 | dondelelcaro | MidgetSpy: remove netatalk |
| 21:03.34 | herregud_ | I followed those steps... I am now getting VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block |
| 21:03.38 | drac | coruptkid: You don't need fglrx, ati drivers for 9200. It's better supported by Open Source drivers. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. modprobe radeon. echo radeon >> /etc/modules |
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| 21:03.52 | drac | coruptkid: make sure driver is set to "radeon" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. |
| 21:03.54 | dondelelcaro | herregud_: then you haven't compiled the proper options into your kernel. |
| 21:04.19 | herregud_ | I think so too.. accidentally set ext3 to modular |
| 21:04.29 | dondelelcaro | herregud_: if you don't know what the proper options are, you should just install whatever the latest version of the Debian kernel is. |
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| 21:04.56 | coruptkid | drac, so shall i edit the file manually or use the config utility to change the config file? |
| 21:05.11 | herregud_ | I have this same PC running fine with Slacware on the same system... with 2.6.11 |
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| 21:05.18 | herregud_ | this should fucking work |
| 21:05.20 | abrotman | with the same kernel config ? |
| 21:05.26 | herregud_ | yeah |
| 21:05.29 | abrotman | 100% sure? |
| 21:05.32 | herregud_ | just the debian is ext2 |
| 21:05.37 | abrotman | and same bootloader options ? |
| 21:05.37 | MidgetSpy | dondelelcaro: from where? |
| 21:05.39 | herregud_ | no ext3 |
| 21:05.47 | abrotman | so not the same ? |
| 21:05.54 | herregud_ | yeah.. I am going insane |
| 21:05.54 | drac | coruptkid: Hmm, make sure everything else is set ok with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Then open it up on editor.. |
| 21:05.55 | dondelelcaro | MidgetSpy: from your system. apt-get --purge remove netatalk; |
| 21:06.05 | abrotman | herregud_: why are you compiling a kernel anyways? |
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| 21:06.13 | MidgetSpy | dondelelcaro: oh, I see. thanks! |
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| 21:06.26 | dfzi | abrotman, what's the difference between apt-get remove netatalk and apt-get --purge remove netatalk |
| 21:06.26 | herregud_ | because i have never done it debian before.. only in slack |
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| 21:06.35 | abrotman | dfzi: config files |
| 21:06.35 | herregud_ | wanted to get a feel for it in another dist |
| 21:06.39 | abrotman | dfzi: man dpkg; man apt-get |
| 21:06.40 | drac | coruptkid: Driver "radeon" and Option "AGPMode" "4" and Option "BusType" "agp" and Option "EnablePageFlip" "on" (In Section "device") |
| 21:06.43 | stew | abrotman: dude 2.6.11.8 is out, can't be on that ancient 2.6.11.7 anymore! |
| 21:06.47 | dfzi | abrotman, purge saves em? :I |
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| 21:06.54 | abrotman | stew: oh crap . my mom will spank me! |
| 21:06.59 | dfzi | abrotman, ah.. purge destorys i mean |
| 21:06.59 | abrotman | dfzi: no .. read the man page |
| 21:07.09 | stew | and btw, how do i upgrade to etch? |
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| 21:07.17 | stew | can't be on theis frozen distro |
| 21:07.18 | cheal | stew: thanks for the warning dude |
| 21:07.19 | abrotman | stew: wait for it .. wait for it :) |
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| 21:07.45 | kce | testing |
| 21:07.51 | cheal | jeez, I'm running 2.6.11.6! |
| 21:07.56 | abrotman | cheal: you old dirty man |
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| 21:08.03 | simonrvn | onoz!!!! |
| 21:08.11 | abrotman | !irritate cheal |
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| 21:08.12 | dpkg | cheal: Y iz debain so old? how does I run teh mouse kthx |
| 21:08.15 | drac | coruptkid: http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/radeon.4.html |
| 21:08.35 | abrotman | wtf was that ? |
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| 21:08.50 | abrotman | kce: are you broken? |
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| 21:09.00 | herregud_ | after I add the missing option (setting ext3 to compile directly) and then run make-kpkg kernel-image.. after that I run dpkg -i (image) ... is this correct? |
| 21:09.12 | abrotman | did you update your bootloader? |
| 21:09.15 | simonrvn | ok, all you DDs can go have a big fat doobie now. or a small one, at least ;P |
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| 21:09.56 | abrotman | simonrvn: they aren't done yet! |
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| 21:10.03 | abrotman | simonrvn: you know what this means??? |
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| 21:10.08 | simonrvn | that's why the small one ;p |
| 21:10.12 | cheal | yeah, sarge won't have KDE 3.4 |
| 21:10.15 | herregud_ | it does that automaticall for me as far as I have seen from /boot/grub/menu |
| 21:10.18 | abrotman | RELEASE PARTY!!!!! |
| 21:10.29 | abrotman | cheal: boo hoo .. won't have gnome2.10 either .. |
| 21:10.42 | cheal | abrotman: but KDE 3.4!! |
| 21:10.50 | simonrvn | onoz!!!11!!! |
| 21:10.53 | herregud_ | 3.4 is nice... |
| 21:10.57 | abrotman | it sucks |
| 21:10.59 | stew | hey, we weren't even supposed to get gnome 2.6 |
| 21:11.02 | abrotman | inherently .. it's kde :) |
| 21:11.02 | PerfDave | Oh well, there will be 3.4 backports :) |
| 21:11.07 | simonrvn | or 2.8 |
| 21:11.08 | abrotman | sorry PerfDave... it's true :) |
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| 21:11.19 | stew | as if any of you guys will be running sarge that long :) |
| 21:11.21 | abrotman | simonrvn: or a 2.6 kernel :) |
| 21:11.22 | PerfDave | abrotman: You're so wrong it hurts :) |
| 21:11.27 | benjamindees | cheal, what does 3.4 have that 3.3 doesn't? |
| 21:11.32 | cheal | stew: hehehe :) |
| 21:11.32 | PerfDave | stew: I'll be running Sarge after release. |
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| 21:11.40 | abrotman | stew: i usually run stable until about a month after testing opens again |
| 21:11.44 | stew | yeah |
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| 21:12.05 | stew | i'll be running sarge for a while too, but not gnome or kde |
| 21:12.13 | cheal | benjamindees: fast user switching, PDF 1.5 support in kpdf, better usability for the disabled, I heard |
| 21:12.16 | coruptkid | drac, i am now getting. "Assigning device section with no busID to primary device" "(EE) No devices dectected" "Fatal server error" "no screens found" |
| 21:12.28 | coruptkid | any ideas? |
| 21:12.28 | drac | coruptkid: lspci | grep -i vga |
| 21:12.38 | abrotman | stew: file my gnomebaker bug! |
| 21:13.05 | stew | abrotman: you're a big boy, you can do it yourself |
| 21:13.09 | herregud_ | but seriously when I run make-kpkg kernel-image it should compile the kernel... after I ran this the second time it took only about 10 sec.. This seems strange to me |
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| 21:13.16 | simonrvn | !big boy abrotman |
| 21:13.18 | abrotman | stew: hold my hand? |
| 21:13.27 | stew | abrotman: stop hitting on me |
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| 21:13.29 | drac | coruptkid: tell me that, and i'll give you an option to fix that .. |
| 21:13.36 | outlier | Anybody have any idea what might be wrong when my system freezes everytime I try to update the locate database? |
| 21:13.40 | abrotman | herregud_: make-kpkg clean .. make-kpkg <options> binary |
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| 21:13.52 | abrotman | stew: free beer? |
| 21:14.03 | stew | i said stop |
| 21:14.03 | buu | Hrm. I'm in debian 3.1 and I'm trying to run something that requires libtiff.so.3, I can't find it in the repository |
| 21:14.18 | simonrvn | use .4 |
| 21:14.26 | abrotman | stew: but beer! |
| 21:14.31 | buu | simonrvn: ... How? |
| 21:14.42 | coruptkid | drac the reply is, "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown Device 5964 (rv 01) |
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| 21:15.05 | drac | coruptkid: BusID "PCI:1:0:0" and ChipID 0x5964 to that same section. |
| 21:15.28 | drac | coruptkid: Try also 0x5962 if that doesn't work. |
| 21:15.38 | simonrvn | buu: rebuild it? |
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| 21:15.44 | buu | simonrvn: I don't have the source |
| 21:15.48 | moeen | Do u know a Library for USB programming ? |
| 21:15.49 | buu | Stupid propietary software. |
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| 21:16.05 | coruptkid | drac, so i add this info to the configurationf file?? |
| 21:16.06 | dondelelcaro | moeen: usb programming? |
| 21:16.19 | simonrvn | then fetch it from snapshot.debian.net - frankly, i wouldn't use it, it's got issues.... |
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| 21:16.28 | buu | simonrvn: Great =/ |
| 21:16.29 | abrotman | why do i get all the people who want to know why they can't speak in channel ? |
| 21:16.30 | moeen | dondelelcaro, write a usb mouse driver ! |
| 21:16.38 | buu | abrotman: They love you! |
| 21:16.46 | abrotman | i'm just a lovable guy |
| 21:16.50 | stew | moeen: libusb-dev libhid-dev |
| 21:16.57 | drac | coruptkid: http://www.pastebin.com/279268 |
| 21:17.00 | anoo | I booted my debian station today and the ps/2 keyboard stops working somewhere around XWin going to graphic mode. Where should I look to track this down? |
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| 21:17.15 | simonrvn | buu: you could probably get it to use .4, but i don't know how to do that safely |
| 21:17.20 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: better? |
| 21:17.21 | dabreegster | buu: Hey, sup? My music daemon is going great and I'm reworking it to use Audio::Daemon::MPG123. Aren't you proud? :P |
| 21:17.23 | k-dog | OK, any place to check whether or not I've got sensors on this puppy? |
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| 21:17.29 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: like magic |
| 21:17.34 | k-dog | WRT lmsensors / mobo |
| 21:17.35 | abrotman | k-dog: touch it dirty? |
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| 21:17.41 | drac | coruptkid: Yes, to Section "device" |
| 21:17.42 | runedude | ello, what are the minimum required *.bin files for the floppy installation? |
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| 21:17.46 | simonrvn | k-dog: mobo diagrams? |
| 21:17.52 | coruptkid | ILL TRY :-) |
| 21:17.56 | resiak | abrotman: You begin with ab |
| 21:17.59 | abrotman | buu: snapshot.debian.org! |
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| 21:18.09 | k-dog | simonrvn: Take your PPC-lovin' self out to the ghetto. |
| 21:18.24 | abrotman | buu: or do what i do sometimes .. ln -s! |
| 21:18.25 | k-dog | abrotman: Anything in /proc or /sys specifically? |
| 21:18.26 | simonrvn | k-dog: there already ;p |
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| 21:18.36 | runedude | sorry pinged out |
| 21:18.38 | runedude | ello, what are the minimum required *.bin files for the floppy installation? |
| 21:18.43 | runedude | ^ what i said earlier |
| 21:18.45 | abrotman | k-dog: not that i'm aware .. sorry |
| 21:18.50 | buu | abrotman: Yeah, I just fetched |
| 21:18.52 | simonrvn | root, boot, -drivers |
| 21:18.58 | k-dog | abrotman: OK... |
| 21:19.00 | simonrvn | cd or net |
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| 21:19.09 | runedude | what if I want to fetch all files from the internet? do I still need "drivers" ? |
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| 21:19.22 | simonrvn | (or both; if both, put in cd first) |
| 21:19.29 | EvilSporkMan | if i want to resize my partitions, do i need to do anything besides simply backing up the files? (root partition included) |
| 21:19.29 | simonrvn | yes |
| 21:19.31 | runedude | ok |
| 21:19.35 | simonrvn | net-drivers |
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| 21:19.36 | runedude | so 4 floppies? |
| 21:19.43 | simonrvn | 3 |
| 21:19.46 | runedude | ok |
| 21:19.49 | k-dog | abrotman: Curiously enough, 'apropos sensors' returns 'sensors-detect' |
| 21:19.58 | runedude | root, boot, net-drivers? |
| 21:20.04 | simonrvn | yes |
| 21:20.11 | runedude | ok |
| 21:20.15 | runedude | i cant find net-drivers :\ |
| 21:20.38 | astronut | oh, my issue was firefox, sorry |
| 21:20.53 | abrotman | heh |
| 21:21.03 | stew | KjetilK: you mean the 2 rc bugs? |
| 21:21.09 | simonrvn | runedude: should be in the same dir as root and boot |
| 21:21.11 | abrotman | astronut: that'll learn ya eh? |
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| 21:21.30 | astronut | abrotman: yes...although i typically trust this guy |
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| 21:21.38 | astronut | and i know that chrome is often deleted to fix problem |
| 21:21.38 | astronut | s |
| 21:22.04 | runedude | i only see driver 1 - 4 |
| 21:22.09 | k-dog | abrotman: ...which seems to be helpful. |
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| 21:23.12 | naoliv | How do I delete 4129 on a directory? rm says "bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long" |
| 21:23.36 | naoliv | Sorry... it is "How do I delete 4129 files on a directory?" |
| 21:23.42 | runedude | oh |
| 21:23.45 | runedude | cd .. |
| 21:23.50 | runedude | then rm -rf the one dir |
| 21:23.51 | runedude | :p |
| 21:23.51 | herregud_ | abrotman: thanks.. that appeard to work.. recompile is now running |
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| 21:23.56 | guru | does anyone know if there are any medical channels on freenode? |
| 21:24.13 | naoliv | runedude, but the dir has files that I don't want to delete. |
| 21:24.20 | dabreegster | guru: YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SWALLOW THAT! CALL 9-11!!! |
| 21:24.21 | k-dog | abrotman: ...but still no sensors found. |
| 21:24.23 | naoliv | It's 4129 GIFs on the dir. |
| 21:24.25 | dabreegster | guru: :P |
| 21:24.27 | runedude | naoliv, then move those specific ones :p |
| 21:24.37 | naoliv | runedude: Right. Thanks! |
| 21:24.40 | guru | dabreegster: heh, it's a question about a recent cardiac revascularization actually |
| 21:24.46 | simonrvn | might need to use xargs if rm complains |
| 21:24.49 | PerfDave | naoliv: Do you want to delete all the GIFs? What do the files you want to delete have in common that seperates them from the others? |
| 21:24.52 | MidgetSpy | how do I specify the URI of an IP printer when adding it in GNOME? |
| 21:24.58 | k-dog | guru: Not AFAIK. /query chanserv *expression* for channels |
| 21:25.08 | cbr | do i need to run discover on bootup if i dont anything as modules and those which are, are in /etc/modules ? |
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| 21:25.13 | furrywolf | no medical channels that I know of, but I can find a few people to talk about medical fetishes if you want. :P |
| 21:25.18 | cbr | *dont have anything |
| 21:25.26 | dabreegster | guru: Ouch. If you find one though, lemme know, I've a few questions myself. :( |
| 21:25.29 | streuner | guru: try #gentoo - faster, lighter - brighter ;-) |
| 21:25.32 | PerfDave | naoliv: What's the rm command you're trying to use? |
| 21:25.43 | guru | dabreegster: feel free to pm me any questions you might have |
| 21:25.50 | abrotman | k-dog: bummer .. what CPU is it ? |
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| 21:26.00 | abrotman | herregud_: you doubted me?!!?!? |
| 21:26.03 | k-dog | abrotman: Athlon XP |
| 21:26.08 | naoliv | PerfDave: rm *.gif. But as runedude said, I moved all the other files, cd .. and deleted the dir. |
| 21:26.12 | k-dog | abrotman: Nvidia mobo chipset AFAICT |
| 21:26.17 | abrotman | k-dog: iirc .. no sensors .. fan falls off .. you can make eggs! |
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| 21:26.33 | abrotman | k-dog: ask #hardware maybe? |
| 21:26.38 | abrotman | or ##linux ? |
| 21:26.41 | KjetilK | stew: yup, those two bugs, and if 1.4.1 will ever go in... |
| 21:26.47 | k-dog | abrotman: I'll keep that in mind. |
| 21:26.53 | Turjakas | is it possible to boot the sarge netinstall cd from a cdrom drive that's connected to a pci ide controller (so it is not the one that's integrated on the motherboard) ? |
| 21:26.53 | PerfDave | naoliv: That was overkill, really. "for i in *.gif; do rm $i; done" would have worked, as would "find . -name '*.gif' -print0 | xargs -0 -n 1 rm" :) |
| 21:26.59 | coruptkid | drac, i get the reply, RADEON: ChipId 0x5962 in Device section "Ati Radeon 9200" isn't valid for his driver |
| 21:27.07 | k-dog | abrotman: I've been getting oopses, just ran cpuburn for 10 min no problem. |
| 21:27.09 | PerfDave | Turjakas: If the BIOS can boot off the drive, yes. |
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| 21:27.15 | rafal | LIST |
| 21:27.16 | KjetilK | it would be pretty bad if gnupg 1.4.1 didn't make it to sarge |
| 21:27.25 | streuner | !list |
| 21:27.26 | dpkg | one warez list being sent |
| 21:27.30 | streuner | hm |
| 21:27.31 | naoliv | PerfDave: Hum... more one that I learnt today... :-) |
| 21:27.36 | runedude | !list |
| 21:27.36 | cheal | KjetilK: gnupg is frozen |
| 21:27.36 | dpkg | one warez list being sent |
| 21:27.36 | runedude | ? |
| 21:27.42 | runedude | lol. |
| 21:27.44 | PerfDave | KjetilK: What's better about 1.4.1 over the version curently in Sarge? |
| 21:27.52 | Turjakas | PerfDave: yes it can boot, but the problems arrive with the boot loader.. ISOLINUX complains something about the driver numbers the bios gives.. |
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| 21:28.06 | KjetilK | there are lots and lots of changes |
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| 21:28.16 | rafal | list |
| 21:28.42 | PerfDave | Turjakas: Ah, OK. Maybe #debian-boot can help, if there's nothing in the installation manual. Or you can use a boot floppy to boot, then get the rest of the files off the CD. |
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| 21:29.02 | PerfDave | KjetilK: Such as? |
| 21:29.05 | KjetilK | and for one thing, that's gnupg upstream's stable branch |
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| 21:29.10 | jupi | hi |
| 21:29.11 | jupi | :) |
| 21:29.14 | abrotman | k-dog: bad ram? |
| 21:29.15 | Turjakas | hum.. ok.. again I wish I had a working floppy drive .. :/ |
| 21:29.33 | naoliv | Thanks PerfDave and runedude. And bye! |
| 21:29.40 | abrotman | Turjakas: usb key drive thingie? |
| 21:29.42 | jupi | can anyone tell me where is the path tpo openssl on a woody ? |
| 21:29.47 | cheal | KjetilK: what is gnupg upstream's stable branch? |
| 21:29.50 | abrotman | libssl ? |
| 21:29.52 | runedude | cya |
| 21:29.56 | PerfDave | jupi: What are you trying to do? |
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| 21:30.07 | jupi | trying to configure an eggdrop-ssl |
| 21:30.19 | jupi | i did apt-get install openssl |
| 21:30.30 | Turjakas | abrotman: usb sticks are also supported ? then i might be able to use one... |
| 21:30.32 | abrotman | libssl iirc |
| 21:30.33 | jupi | then i do ./confogure in the eggdrop dir |
| 21:30.41 | abrotman | Turjakas: read the whole page .. near the bottom iirc |
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| 21:30.47 | jupi | and it complains about not finding openssl |
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| 21:30.55 | Turjakas | k.. |
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| 21:30.59 | abrotman | !info libssl-dev woody |
| 21:31.02 | dpkg | libssl-dev: (SSL development libraries, header files and documentation), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.9.6c-2.woody.7 (woody), Packaged size: 1260 kB, Installed size: 3492 kB |
| 21:31.07 | abrotman | !win me! |
| 21:31.07 | dpkg | Congratulations, me!! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 21:31.43 | KjetilK | PerfDave: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2004q4/000186.html |
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| 21:31.56 | KjetilK | cheal: 1.4 is their gnupg upstream stable |
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| 21:32.09 | jupi | oki |
| 21:32.09 | jupi | thx |
| 21:32.09 | jupi | :) |
| 21:32.10 | jupi | works perfectly now thx for your help |
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| 21:32.15 | abrotman | heh |
| 21:32.38 | KjetilK | cheal: 1.2, which is in sarge is "we really hope you don't use this, and don't expect answers on the mailing lists" branch |
| 21:33.04 | KjetilK | (perhaps, I'm reading too much between the lines there) |
| 21:33.42 | stew | KjetilK: its likely that 1.4 will get into sarge since vorlon is suggesting it |
| 21:33.58 | KjetilK | stew: yup, I noted he did, so lets hope |
| 21:34.18 | KjetilK | kinda weird that the maintainer never responded, but he is understandably very busy |
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| 21:34.33 | yam | is it possible to get an user userPassword ldap attribute in md5crypt and paste the string into /etc/shadow ... (in order to get rid of ldap auth for that user) |
| 21:35.07 | oskie | it would be great if you could specify initial current working directory when sshing to a machine |
| 21:35.21 | stew | KjetilK: since the one bug is 8 days old, its a likely target for a NMU during the BSP this weekend if it doesn't happen before then |
| 21:35.46 | KjetilK | stew: ok, cool! |
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| 21:36.24 | vchrizz | hi |
| 21:36.35 | PerfDave | oskie: You can, set $HOME ;) |
| 21:36.56 | oskie | PerfDave: how can you do that from the computer you ssh from? |
| 21:37.27 | oskie | PerfDave: if i just could pass an environment variable... then I could write a .bashrc that cd'ed to the right directory automaticly! |
| 21:38.02 | PerfDave | oskie: Why can't you just cd when you get in? |
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| 21:38.14 | oskie | PerfDave: it's from a script... 'ssh machine make foo' |
| 21:38.22 | oskie | ah make -C!! |
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| 21:38.44 | PerfDave | oskie: ssh machine 'cd /foo/bar; make foo' |
| 21:38.57 | oskie | PerfDave: hm that works? |
| 21:39.15 | PerfDave | oskie: Don't see why it wouldn't. |
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| 21:42.09 | oskie | PerfDave: thanks.. |
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| 21:42.58 | OleMoudi | wasn't sarge already frozen? |
| 21:43.07 | OleMoudi | what are the news? |
| 21:43.22 | simonrvn | no. only base and standard |
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| 21:44.13 | simonrvn | http://tinyurl.com/a4mft |
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| 21:46.30 | oklinux | any one use mepis in here ? |
| 21:46.36 | PerfDave | !mepis |
| 21:46.36 | dpkg | MEPIS is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system. Uses KDE by default, and includes the nVidia proprietary 3D driver. It also includes a custom installer on the KDE desktop, with simple LILO configuration. See http://www.mepis.org. It is NOT real Debian, attempts to use apt-get with Debian mirrors will meet with a world of hurt. /join #mepis |
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| 21:47.40 | derflo | someone uses hurd? |
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| 21:48.00 | oskie | is there a way to sign multiple files with gpg -b easily!? |
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| 21:48.26 | trevorc | derflo, I looked into Hurd once. |
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| 21:48.39 | derflo | trevorc: and? |
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| 21:49.09 | pngwn | derflo, try #hurd |
| 21:49.28 | derflo | pngwn: i mean debian/hurd |
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| 21:49.39 | derflo | sry |
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| 21:50.17 | benjamindees | don't you mean gnu/debian/hurd ;) |
| 21:50.23 | pngwn | derflo, try #debian-hurd |
| 21:50.26 | PerfDave | Debian GNU/HURD, FFS |
| 21:50.30 | pngwn | ;) |
| 21:50.37 | PerfDave | It's not hard. |
| 21:51.05 | derflo | is there still this filesystem limit? |
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| 21:51.24 | derflo | ok |
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| 21:52.59 | benjamindees | derflo, http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/08/142208&tid=117&tid=130&tid=8 |
| 21:53.11 | vchrizz | where do i change the system locale language? dpkg-reconfigure locales didnt work |
| 21:53.43 | stew | !locales |
| 21:53.44 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. You can override this in your personal dotfiles, of course. |
| 21:53.59 | yuber | ive installed x.org in my sarge, now when i want to view a video with vlc,xine oder mplayer the screen is blue |
| 21:54.07 | stew | yuber: we don't support x.org here |
| 21:54.24 | stew | !get xorg |
| 21:54.24 | dpkg | well, get xorg is Xorg is NOT SUPPORTED HERE. http://incubator.vislab.usyd.edu.au/roller/page/Steve/20040909 - but remember: YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. Xorg is unusably slow with transparency enabled. Don't bother. No I don't notice any slowdown. You just need a good graphics card with OpenGL. |
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| 21:54.44 | yuber | ive done it with the link |
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| 21:55.00 | drac | yuber: Did you see the part saying "YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN" ? |
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| 21:55.02 | yuber | the x work glx too but video-players dont work |
| 21:55.08 | rafal | anybody talk to polish? |
| 21:55.13 | stew | !polish |
| 21:55.13 | dpkg | somebody said polish was spoken in #debian.pl (not here). Or something used to make things shiny, or a really good sausage. polska -> #debian.pl |
| 21:55.15 | yuber | okok :) |
| 21:55.19 | yuber | was only a question |
| 21:55.36 | rafal | OK thanks |
| 21:55.37 | derflo | !polish |
| 21:55.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, polish is spoken in #debian.pl (not here). Or something used to make things shiny, or a really good sausage. polska -> #debian.pl |
| 21:55.56 | derflo | !test |
| 21:55.56 | dpkg | No, derflo, you're not online any more. |
| 21:56.13 | derflo | hugh? |
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| 21:56.49 | shingouz | derflo: dpkg just made a joke |
| 21:57.05 | malex | Topic update is in order ;). Sarge is frozen. |
| 21:57.21 | shingouz | malex: You're shitting me? |
| 21:57.22 | derflo | !help |
| 21:57.24 | directhex | woo woo, sarge |
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| 21:57.31 | malex | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00000.html |
| 21:57.35 | cureless | malex: what? |
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| 21:57.53 | malex | cureless: see the message linked above. |
| 21:57.59 | cureless | malex: see topic |
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| 21:58.26 | malex | cureless: right |
| 21:58.38 | shingouz | That means Sarge will be released sometime in this millennium I guess |
| 21:58.55 | cureless | malex: so what change do you want in the topic? |
| 21:58.58 | cheal | !guess |
| 21:58.58 | dpkg | well, guess is a hypothesis based on nothing |
| 21:59.20 | malex | cureless: I guess a bit more explicit mention :) |
| 21:59.23 | shingouz | cheal: As I said :) |
| 21:59.37 | cheal | shingouz: you optimist |
| 21:59.39 | cureless | malex: so "SARGE HAS FROZEN." is not good enough? |
| 21:59.46 | benjamindees | "sarge not out" |
| 21:59.47 | shingouz | cheal: Ok, so sue me :p |
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| 21:59.54 | resiak | How can it be more explicit that Sarge has frozen than "SARGE HAS FROZEN." ? "SARGE HAS FROZEN OMG!!!!" ? |
| 21:59.59 | mith | about goddamned time |
| 22:00.08 | cheal | shingouz: sure, once sarge is released |
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| 22:00.14 | cureless | malex: maybe you need to refresh your /topic |
| 22:00.15 | sussudio | !mith mith |
| 22:00.23 | malex | cureless: hmm, silly "konversation" truncated the end of the topic for me. Too bad. |
| 22:00.29 | shingouz | cheal: I'll be waiting |
| 22:00.42 | malex | I guess I kind of got excited on reading the news, hehe. |
| 22:00.43 | cheal | shingouz: ;) |
| 22:01.55 | derflo | to whom does dpkg belpon to? |
| 22:02.10 | resiak | !who owns you |
| 22:02.10 | dpkg | dondelelcaro does |
| 22:02.19 | moeen | moeen, what do u think about SID ? is it good ? |
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| 22:02.26 | shingouz | So there hs a factoid for that too. Damn :) |
| 22:02.27 | simonrvn | !info blootbot |
| 22:02.28 | dpkg | blootbot: (a severely modified infobot for IRC), section net, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 241 kB, Installed size: 872 kB |
| 22:02.35 | simonrvn | w00t |
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| 22:02.42 | resiak | !tell moeen -about sid faq |
| 22:02.50 | herregud_ | !SID |
| 22:02.50 | dpkg | from memory, sid is the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. |
| 22:02.59 | shingouz | herregud_: Nice nick :) |
| 22:03.19 | toresbe | herregud_: I remember my teacher (moron) freaking out when I said it :P |
| 22:03.27 | herregud_ | heh |
| 22:03.44 | toresbe | "you are TAKING THE GOOD LORD'S NAME IN VEIN!" |
| 22:04.03 | furrywolf | why is it that at least 90% of people exit their bittorrent clients as soon as the download finishes instead of staying around to seed? |
| 22:04.18 | derflo | bye |
| 22:04.23 | shingouz | furrywolf: Because they are morons perhaps? |
| 22:04.26 | moeen | toresbe, Where is vien ? in which country ? |
| 22:04.29 | resiak | Because most bt users suck. |
| 22:04.38 | furrywolf | shingouz: good answer. |
| 22:04.39 | shingouz | moeen: Vain |
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| 22:04.49 | toresbe | uh, vain, sorry |
| 22:04.54 | shingouz | ;) |
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| 22:05.15 | EvilSporkMan | if i want to repartition my drive, can i just back up all the files on my root partition, repartition and reformat, and then copy them back, or do I have to reinstall? |
| 22:05.28 | toresbe | hehe |
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| 22:06.06 | shingouz | EvilSporkMan: Backup and repartition can be done, you just have to reconfigure your bootloader and fstab after that |
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| 22:06.39 | doub | resiak: isn't "the lord" that good heroin i've been told about ? ;) |
| 22:07.05 | EvilSporkMan | shingouz: oh, right, bootloader...chroot to hard drive, source /etc/profile, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and update-grub, da? |
| 22:07.06 | simonrvn | nah, new pot strain |
| 22:07.08 | moeen | is there anyone here using Windows ? |
| 22:07.12 | simonrvn | no |
| 22:07.18 | PerfDave | !anybody use |
| 22:07.23 | shingouz | EvilSporkMan: REad the factoid I sent you, most of it is in there |
| 22:07.38 | EvilSporkMan | shingouz, thanks |
| 22:07.46 | elirips | hi people. it is not debian specific, but does someone in here know a page where i can see what digicams work well with linux? |
| 22:07.49 | resiak | Oh, bollocks, another broken egg... |
| 22:07.49 | dpkg | No, no-one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 22:07.53 | shingouz | EvilSporkMan: np. What you mentioned there is about what it takes, yes |
| 22:07.59 | simonrvn | the ckickens use linux. resiak's chickens type for him |
| 22:08.03 | simonrvn | chi* |
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| 22:08.20 | resiak | In Soviet resiak, the chickens use YOU! |
| 22:08.31 | shingouz | ewwww |
| 22:08.32 | furrywolf | I don't like killing my client if I'm the only seed... but I've uploaded about ten times the size of the torrent, and every time someone gets a whole copy, they just leave rather than seeding. but if I kill mine, the torrent will be seedless. |
| 22:08.43 | simonrvn | no, in soviet russia, resiak's chickens use you |
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| 22:09.09 | moeen | elirips, Digicam or Webcam ? |
| 22:09.15 | simonrvn | dirty bastoids |
| 22:09.19 | resiak | simonrvn: Chicken chicken chicken chicken linux linux! ? |
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| 22:09.47 | simonrvn | *bok bok bok bok bok bok lin-UUUUUX!" |
| 22:09.56 | elirips | moeen: digicam. i'm thinking about buying a 'Canon Digital Ixus 40', but from the datasheet i only see that it has an usb-connections, but will that work with linux, or do i need some special software that is only for win available=? |
| 22:10.05 | resiak | !simonrvn++ |
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| 22:10.17 | simonrvn | the last cry was the chicken laying a penguin egg ;p |
| 22:10.26 | Seb | in case of a kernel panic, what are my options to get the kernel messages that scrolled by too fast ? |
| 22:10.38 | Seb | i know I could use a serial console, but is there any other solution ? |
| 22:10.41 | simonrvn | ^s |
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| 22:10.49 | Blissex | Seb: not many options... A kernel debugger.... |
| 22:10.51 | shingouz | !tell elirips about gphoto |
| 22:10.52 | MASoft | elirips, In fact most of the Digicams use USB |
| 22:10.55 | simonrvn | pause that fucking console ;) |
| 22:10.57 | Seb | simonrvn: would ^s work during a kernel boot ? |
| 22:11.00 | Seb | simonrvn: aaah, cool |
| 22:11.13 | k-dog | simonrvn: Why did the chicken cross the road? |
| 22:11.14 | elirips | shingouz: thanks |
| 22:11.17 | MASoft | elirips, but there isn't any problem, because they work like as USB Storages |
| 22:11.25 | k-dog | simonrvn: It was a blessing. |
| 22:11.36 | simonrvn | k-dog: because it forgot its chicks |
| 22:11.38 | elirips | MASoft: ah, that was what i was just going about to ask you. usb-sticks work fine here :) |
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| 22:11.56 | MASoft | elirips, so you can mount /dev/sd0 /mnt/digicam ! ;) |
| 22:11.58 | MidgetSpy | when configuring xserver, how do I get it to use my left "Start" key as a modifier (so I can use, say, Start+D as a keyboard shortcut)? I believe the keyname is Super_L but I'm not sure what the syntax would be to enable it? |
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| 22:12.20 | elirips | MASoft: thanks for your help, now i just need to wait until the shop opens again tomorrow |
| 22:12.23 | resiak | MidgetSpy: You just use it... |
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| 22:12.52 | MASoft | elirips, ur welcome |
| 22:12.53 | resiak | MidgetSpy: If you use a desktop environment, you just go into the appropriate preferences panel. |
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| 22:13.23 | MidgetSpy | resiak: nope, in GNOME when I press it as a keyboard shortcut it makes just THAT key as the shortcut, it won't allow me to do combination swith it (like I can with, say, <Alt>E) |
| 22:13.44 | resiak | MidgetSpy: *shrug* WORKSFORME. |
| 22:13.56 | MASoft | !tell masoft about gphoto |
| 22:14.03 | zumbi | why should i use debian kernel-sources for my kernel, instead of kernel.org ? what patches does it have ? |
| 22:14.26 | shingouz | MASoft: You can also /msg dpkg foo and get the same factoid without spamming the channel |
| 22:14.56 | MASoft | shingouz, ok ;) excuse me for this time :D |
| 22:14.59 | shingouz | zumbi: Changelogs might be able to tell you that |
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| 22:15.20 | benjamindees | zumbi, quite a few, and yeah they're in the docs |
| 22:15.24 | shingouz | MASoft: yw, I just figured you might want to know as dpkg has a lot of information you might want to access |
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| 22:15.56 | zumbi | ok, /usr/share/doc/kernel-sources ? |
| 22:16.38 | vchrizz | how do i check, if the interface has link or not? |
| 22:17.27 | k-dog | vchrizz: ifconfig |
| 22:17.30 | shingouz | vchrizz: Huh? Look at the link light perhaps? |
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| 22:18.46 | Kzimm | hi |
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| 22:19.14 | Kzimm | i need help with mdadm plz |
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| 22:19.38 | dabreegster | kzimm: be specific |
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| 22:19.49 | challenged | hi |
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| 22:20.03 | Cyis | OMG... anyone read the post on /. about the Hong Kong BSA teaming up with the MPA to create an IP merit badge :) |
| 22:20.29 | vchrizz | k-dog: this doesnt show me, if the cable is attached or not |
| 22:20.58 | vchrizz | shingouz: well, im connected via ssh on the box, its hard to take a look ;) |
| 22:21.02 | rectum | back from wo rk |
| 22:21.10 | shingouz | vchrizz: Check the link light on the nic and the other end, should tell you if the cable is connected in the first place |
| 22:21.16 | rectum | im sure no one cares, it was an amsg |
| 22:21.23 | k-dog | vchrizz: If you can transact network traffic, you've likely got a working interface. If you can't, you don't. |
| 22:21.31 | shingouz | vchrizz: If you are connected with ssh the cable is in that is for sure |
| 22:21.38 | dabreegster | rectum: judging by your nick, please don't tell us your job |
| 22:21.47 | MASoft | what is MAKEDEV ? |
| 22:21.47 | vchrizz | well, im connected with internal interface ;) |
| 22:21.49 | rectum | lol |
| 22:21.53 | rectum | I work at a book store |
| 22:21.56 | k-dog | vchrizz: If you're physically at/near the system, check link lights. I'm not aware of SW method. |
| 22:21.57 | rectum | 75% off books |
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| 22:21.59 | vchrizz | an i want to know the link status of the external |
| 22:22.01 | shingouz | MASoft: man makedev? |
| 22:22.05 | dabreegster | rectum: Charming. |
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| 22:22.11 | rectum | 50-90$ brand new computer books go for like 4 bucks a piece |
| 22:22.14 | k-dog | MASoft: man MAKEDEV |
| 22:22.22 | dabreegster | rectum: woo. if this is local, I'd pay it a visit. |
| 22:22.23 | rectum | overstock and stuff, a coner might be nicked, cover is put on backwards |
| 22:22.29 | MASoft | shingouz, I'm in Slackware, now ! man MAKEDEV not works ! |
| 22:22.33 | rectum | but otherwise brand new books |
| 22:22.40 | Kzimm | dabreegster: i have update mdadm and i raid don't start an i remember that it start when i start it by hand but mdadm -R /dev/md0 don't work |
| 22:22.40 | dabreegster | rectum: WOW. That is *good* |
| 22:22.54 | shingouz | MASoft: It is a script that helps you make new devices |
| 22:23.00 | dabreegster | Kzimm: I have no clue; I was just saying to be specific |
| 22:23.11 | dabreegster | rectum: wheres this store at? is there an online interface? |
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| 22:23.30 | Kzimm | dabreegster: k |
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| 22:23.45 | Kzimm | ANyone know how start by the hand mdadm ? mdadm -R not work |
| 22:24.04 | owlmanatt_ | Is it possible to boot the d-i from a floppy disk and then have it use the netinstall CD? My machine errors when it tries to boot right from the CD, but I can get it to start under the floppy, but I don't know how to make the floppy boot the cd. |
| 22:24.09 | oskie | Kzimm: check /etc/default/mdadm, /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
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| 22:24.15 | shingouz | Kzimm: Check in /etc/init.d/ |
| 22:24.19 | rectum | no online |
| 22:24.39 | rectum | local store here in oklahoma city, USA |
| 22:24.39 | MASoft | shingouz, does it make FIFO ? |
| 22:24.39 | dabreegster | owlmanatt_: you'll need the cdrom-drivers floppy |
| 22:24.41 | dabreegster | rectum: oh well. |
| 22:24.47 | shingouz | MASoft: How the hell would I know? I am too lazy to read the man page :) |
| 22:24.53 | owlmanatt_ | dabreegster: Is that what I boot from, or is it used in conjunction with boot.img? |
| 22:25.04 | MASoft | shingouz, ok ;) thx |
| 22:25.06 | challenged | vchrizz: umm just out of curiopsity....WHY do you care if the light is on?.....if you can ping out it its up... |
| 22:25.09 | dabreegster | owlmanatt_: use it with. |
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| 22:25.37 | challenged | vchrizz:: messages can tell you when a link goes up and down etc |
| 22:25.43 | dabreegster | owlmanatt_: I'm not sure when you load it in, but you'll need to make that floppy |
| 22:25.45 | dabreegster | owlmanatt_: dont boot with it |
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| 22:26.08 | shingouz | vchrizz: And if it has multiple interfaces use ping from all the interfaces and you should be able to see if they all are up. Use route to figure out which interface does what |
| 22:26.27 | owlmanatt_ | dabreegster: Kay, thanks |
| 22:26.46 | Kzimm | oskie: conf is good just need th egood command to run it :/ |
| 22:27.04 | vchrizz | <challenged> -> [04.May 00:21:22] <vchrizz> well, im connected with internal interface ;) [04.May 00:21:34] <vchrizz> an i want to know the link status of the external |
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| 22:27.14 | benjamindees | rectum, you're in the shipping hub of the US, why no website? |
| 22:27.31 | rectum | cuz its a lame family owned store |
| 22:27.31 | MASoft | As I know, NIS is insecure ! what's the secure one ? |
| 22:27.38 | shingouz | Kzimm: /etc/init.d and look for something that might be associated with mdam (or whatever daemon you want to start) |
| 22:27.45 | dabreegster | rectum: if you open a chain of stores somewhere along southeastern USA, lemme know |
| 22:27.51 | rectum | working on persuading the guy to let me do the online cataloge, shipping orders, blah blah and we site |
| 22:27.54 | rectum | the* |
| 22:27.57 | rectum | yeh |
| 22:27.58 | rectum | we do |
| 22:28.05 | rectum | dallas, houston, miss. louisiana |
| 22:28.13 | rectum | well the owner does |
| 22:28.14 | Kzimm | shingouz: there is a mdadm but it's a monitor deamon not for start the raid seams |
| 22:28.25 | dabreegster | louisiana? what city? |
| 22:28.26 | rectum | its just called 75% off books |
| 22:28.29 | rectum | baton rouge |
| 22:28.30 | shingouz | Kzimm: You sure? |
| 22:28.32 | rectum | laf. |
| 22:28.34 | rectum | shrevport |
| 22:28.38 | rectum | NO |
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| 22:29.05 | rectum | Im originally from baton rouge |
| 22:29.24 | rectum | used to live off state st. by campus, my folks live on highland/lee around woodstone subdivision |
| 22:29.29 | rectum | if you are familiar with batonrouge |
| 22:29.31 | dabreegster | rectum: b.r.? sweet. called 75% books? I'll look it up and check it out |
| 22:29.44 | rectum | i THINK they have one in BR im not positive |
| 22:29.49 | Kzimm | shingouz: echo -n "Starting RAID monitor daemon: mdadm -F" |
| 22:29.52 | rectum | i know they have som ein louisiana |
| 22:30.13 | shingouz | Kzimm: I guess that was not the one then |
| 22:30.14 | dabreegster | rectum: if they do, I'll check it out |
| 22:30.17 | rectum | word |
| 22:30.21 | rectum | where do you stay in BR |
| 22:30.51 | dabreegster | rectum: I'm near the area. That's all you need to know; I don't like giving out my exact location online. :P |
| 22:30.52 | Kzimm | shingouz: linux:~# mdadm -R /dev/md0 |
| 22:30.52 | Kzimm | mdadm: failed to run array /dev/md0: Invalid argument |
| 22:30.59 | rectum | it doesn't matter man |
| 22:31.02 | rectum | you couldn't me anyway |
| 22:31.07 | oskie | Kzimm: lacking kernel modules for md? |
| 22:31.10 | Kzimm | shingouz: i do'nt understand that whu :/ |
| 22:31.16 | rectum | or vice versa |
| 22:31.19 | dabreegster | rectum: I'll check the phone book, but if they have programming books cheap I'd love it |
| 22:31.31 | Kzimm | oskie: all work well i know i can start the raid by a simple command but i forgot it :((( |
| 22:31.33 | poh | are there debian packages that allow me to do mpi development? |
| 22:31.37 | shingouz | Kzimm: In that case you need to read the manual, the argument is wrong |
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| 22:32.50 | rectum | do you go to LSU |
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| 22:33.03 | dabreegster | rectum: no, I'm not in college yet |
| 22:33.07 | rectum | ahh |
| 22:33.10 | rectum | what highschool? |
| 22:33.11 | challenged | vchrizz: im assuming when you say internal external your talking about it being a gateway........why not just ping the ISP's DNS if you get a response the external link must be active?... |
| 22:33.18 | rectum | i graduated from broadmoor |
| 22:33.22 | rectum | my bro goes to baton rouge high |
| 22:33.24 | rectum | heh |
| 22:33.25 | benjamindees | poh, lam-mpidoc, but it's just documentation; what are you looking for? |
| 22:33.27 | dabreegster | rectum: junior high. :( |
| 22:33.30 | rectum | word |
| 22:33.34 | rectum | which one |
| 22:33.40 | dabreegster | rectum: sweet, good school |
| 22:33.49 | dabreegster | rectum: Doesn't matter. |
| 22:33.50 | rectum | i went to st. thomas moore middle school |
| 22:33.55 | owlmanatt_ | dabreegster: It complains about 'cannot find root floppy' when it asks me to change disks... |
| 22:33.57 | rectum | fucking catholic schools |
| 22:33.59 | rectum | :( |
| 22:34.00 | dabreegster | rectum: Again, nobody needs to know. Sorry, but I like to be careful. |
| 22:34.05 | rectum | whatever man |
| 22:34.07 | rectum | its all good |
| 22:34.08 | benjamindees | poh, of course there are compilers, etc... |
| 22:34.14 | rectum | i could care less, just making conv. |
| 22:34.17 | owlmanatt_ | dabreegster: Do I need the boot, then root, THEN cd? |
| 22:34.21 | dabreegster | owlmanatt_: I had that problem a while back, I dunno what to do |
| 22:34.40 | dabreegster | rectum: I know, sorry to be rude, I'm just being safe. Anyway, I'll look for the store. |
| 22:34.43 | shingouz | dabreegster: So you do not even like to post your coordinates online then? :p |
| 22:34.50 | rectum | you are not being rude |
| 22:34.53 | rectum | :) |
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| 22:35.12 | dabreegster | shingouz: Nope. :P |
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| 22:35.18 | poh | benjamindees: I'm not sure what I am looking for really. What I want to do is write a simple multithreaded program with mpi to get some experience with it |
| 22:35.53 | poh | benjamindees: I am going to be using mpi on an xserve cluster and want to see how it works. |
| 22:35.59 | benjamindees | poh, then all you need is a text editor and gcc |
| 22:36.23 | poh | benjamindees: and the doc that you mentioned |
| 22:36.28 | _me_ | someone try this for me so i can see if it works please >>>> http://trbonet.hopto.org >>> let me know ;) |
| 22:36.34 | dabreegster | shingouz: Point is nobody needs to know. There are such things as LUGs for that. |
| 22:36.39 | poh | benjamindees: thanks |
| 22:36.46 | benjamindees | poh, look here perhaps http://www.lyre-mit-edu.lkams.kernel.org/~powell/debian-howto/mpi.html |
| 22:37.11 | shingouz | dabreegster: True, I do not like to make any personal information public |
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| 22:37.30 | shingouz | ...just have to pull your leg a bit, dabreegster |
| 22:37.31 | dabreegster | shingouz: Nobody needs to know. |
| 22:37.41 | shingouz | :) |
| 22:37.51 | rectum | you should go to 12453 Buckingham AVE. in shrewood forest off of old hammond highway, go in the backyard, by the cabin wall, you will find a little hole covered and patched, in that hole you will find 1 ounce of KB budd, zigzags, and a lighter. I stashed it there in case i go back to br i'll need a toke and i won't know anyone, its not my house, i don't even know who lives there, i just picked a house at random and stashed that shit |
| 22:37.59 | rectum | if there are any cops online, good luck finding me |
| 22:38.00 | rectum | ;) |
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| 22:38.30 | challenged | _me_: http://trbonet.hopto.org/htdocs.........redirecting.......waiting |
| 22:38.40 | rectum | i doubt i'll ever be going back, anyway, im gonna go study |
| 22:38.43 | poh | benjamindees: thanks, hat looks perfect |
| 22:38.45 | rectum | finals week is upon me |
| 22:38.54 | poh | rectum: oh god your such an asshole |
| 22:38.56 | shingouz | _me_: The hopto works for me |
| 22:39.02 | _me_ | k |
| 22:39.03 | poh | ;) |
| 22:39.05 | rectum | poh: honestly |
| 22:39.06 | challenged | _me_ slow to load ...5 images taking a bit |
| 22:39.12 | rectum | i've hear that everyday |
| 22:39.16 | rectum | but you know what, it never gets old |
| 22:39.17 | rectum | lol |
| 22:39.21 | challenged | _me_ : tada Development Release: PC-BSD 0.6 |
| 22:39.47 | _me_ | challenged: thanks |
| 22:39.47 | sabiancrash | i have a box that seems not to have survived a power outage. When it boots it displays "LI" like its trying to load LILO but hangs |
| 22:39.59 | sabiancrash | any ideas what got foobard |
| 22:40.09 | streuner | !LI |
| 22:40.09 | dpkg | if 'LI' is printed when the system is booted, it means that your drive is probably too large (OR you simply forgot to run 'lilo'). There is a Large-disk-mini-howto. Read it.. Boot the rescue disk, edit lilo.conf and add 'lba32' then try again., or (if drive geometry has changed) try booting from the rescue disk, mounting /, and rerunning lilo. Or you could try grub instead. :) Lithium, or Liechtenstein. |
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| 22:40.24 | Rawplayer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.41 | sabiancrash | nothing changed between when it was running and the power outage |
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| 22:40.49 | sparr_ | how can I give a user permission to start a new X server (in addition to the one that kdm starts when i boot)? |
| 22:40.50 | steve | hey all |
| 22:40.53 | steve | I'm forwarding between devices on my linux machine, but I want to forward traffic between different subnets, how would I do this? |
| 22:41.15 | dabreegster | rectum: looked in the phonebook, didnt see 75% off books or anything similar. Let me know if you find out where it's at though, sounds nifty. |
| 22:41.43 | MASoft | How can I get Windows SMB (NET SEND) messages ? |
| 22:42.52 | stew | MASoft: if there is a way, #samba is more likely to know |
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| 22:43.54 | sparr_ | specifically, i need to eliminate this: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 22:44.03 | k-dog | sparr_: Run X from console. |
| 22:44.03 | kronchev | anyone have experiance getting debian to work on an IBM laptop? |
| 22:44.13 | k-dog | sparr_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common |
| 22:44.14 | stew | sparr_: iirc man Xwrapper.config |
| 22:44.17 | sparr_ | k-dog: im trying to start a second X server |
| 22:44.26 | k-dog | sparr_: ...and allow fromconsole. |
| 22:44.35 | drac | sparr_: startx -- :1 |
| 22:44.36 | k-dog | sparr_: You can't launch that from w/in an X session |
| 22:44.37 | drac | or something :D |
| 22:44.46 | k-dog | drac: only works from console. |
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| 22:44.50 | sparr_ | k-dog: so i have to do it from a console? |
| 22:44.51 | kronchev | anyone |
| 22:44.58 | ahahah | bsd is dying |
| 22:44.59 | k-dog | sparr_: ...otherwise random remote users can start X sessions on your system. |
| 22:45.06 | k-dog | sparr_: ...which gets annoying. |
| 22:45.11 | sparr_ | ok, once i allow fromconsole then how do i actually start the second X server? |
| 22:45.14 | k-dog | ahahah: Troll elsewhere. |
| 22:45.18 | kronchev | yeh plz |
| 22:45.19 | MASoft | is there anyway to make NIS secure ? for ex. IPSec can ? |
| 22:45.26 | k-dog | sparr_: Go to console. 'startx -- :1' |
| 22:45.46 | ahahah | bsd is dying |
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| 22:45.54 | sparr_ | k-dog: i want to run a specific program, and nothing else, in the new X server. someone told me to use xinit nameofprogram -- 1:0 |
| 22:45.55 | kronchev | stfu |
| 22:46.00 | sparr_ | k-dog: i dont want my WM and stuff to open up |
| 22:46.13 | k-dog | sparr_: It's a bit of a PITA, actually, I was writinga wrapper script to tunnel X over SSH automatgically. Have to be very careful about subshell.s |
| 22:46.23 | stew | sparr_: you can startx -- :1 from within x, man Xwrapper.config |
| 22:46.32 | kronchev | anyone have experiance getting debian to work on an IBM laptop? |
| 22:46.34 | k-dog | sparr_: 'xinit <client> -- <server args>' or 'startx <client> -- <server args>' |
| 22:46.36 | E-bola | Where do the lastlog in from... message come from when u login on debian? |
| 22:46.44 | k-dog | sparr_: ... you can also use Xnest if you want. |
| 22:46.54 | k-dog | E-bola: login |
| 22:46.59 | k-dog | kronchev: No. |
| 22:46.59 | sabiancrash | hmmm, /dev/hdb1....wierd |
| 22:47.08 | kronchev | second harddrive? |
| 22:47.09 | E-bola | k-dog: can u remove or change it in anyway? |
| 22:47.16 | E-bola | i would like ot have control of it |
| 22:47.23 | E-bola | maybe show more than just the very last one |
| 22:47.23 | k-dog | E-bola: RTFM. |
| 22:47.31 | k-dog | E-bola: ?? |
| 22:47.33 | k-dog | E-bola: man logrotate |
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| 22:47.42 | k-dog | E-bola: ...and man utmp wtmp |
| 22:47.56 | sparr_ | k-dog: ive already got consolerusers allowed to start X in my Xwrapper.config (which i just regenerated by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common) |
| 22:47.58 | E-bola | thanks |
| 22:48.06 | K_Dallas | I am trying to follow the font selection guide I got from here but I do not see any msttcorefonts package in my list. Any help with that? Thanks |
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| 22:48.40 | ahahah | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.56 | streuner | ahahah: what? |
| 22:48.56 | k-dog | !ops ahahah trolling |
| 22:48.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: ahahah trolling |
| 22:49.10 | k-dog | ahahah: Stop that. |
| 22:49.18 | simonrvn | ahahah: yes, they're very happy |
| 22:49.38 | ahahah | debian it's for gay |
| 22:49.46 | streuner | -ahahah- VERSION mIRC v6.16 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
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| 22:49.52 | streuner | haha |
| 22:49.55 | Xenguy | K_Dallas: woody, sarge, or sid? |
| 22:49.58 | simonrvn | yes, we're happy people |
| 22:50.04 | K_Dallas | sarge |
| 22:50.08 | simonrvn | ...now that you're gone ;) |
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| 22:50.10 | SNow | hello what is the problem: gcc-3.0: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory |
| 22:50.16 | sabiancrash | kronchev, nope |
| 22:50.20 | SNow | i changed the version of the gcc, same shit |
| 22:50.30 | stew | !b-e SNow |
| 22:50.31 | dpkg | SNow: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 22:50.40 | simonrvn | um, install g++ perhaps? |
| 22:50.46 | simonrvn | ... |
| 22:50.48 | Xenguy | K_Dallas: The package is in sid FWIW |
| 22:50.56 | K_Dallas | i see |
| 22:51.07 | K_Dallas | i tohught it was an old issue so it is pretty new |
| 22:51.15 | K_Dallas | thought* |
| 22:51.17 | sabiancrash | kipozo |
| 22:51.49 | sparr_ | my virtual terminals are all garbled. the entire screen is covered in garbage. i can "see" the output of any command i type in, but its all garbage too. help? |
| 22:51.59 | stew | K_Dallas: its in contrib |
| 22:52.02 | Xenguy | K_Dallas: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=msttcorefonts&searchon=names&subword=1&version=testing&release=all |
| 22:52.10 | shingouz | sparr_: Type "reset" |
| 22:52.18 | K_Dallas | thanks stew, Xenguy |
| 22:52.29 | k-dog | Which is preferred driver? 8139too? Or another? RealTek 8139 eth. |
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| 22:52.33 | K_Dallas | downloaded it and going to install hopefully it would not mess my system up |
| 22:52.34 | Xenguy | K_Dallas: yw |
| 22:52.36 | sparr_ | shingouz: no dice |
| 22:52.38 | jaxxan | hey ya'll |
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| 22:52.58 | jaxxan | what's the file called that lists all ports and their names? |
| 22:53.03 | shingouz | sparr_: You did nto by any chance just upgrade your kernel with something odd? |
| 22:53.07 | jaxxan | i can't remember for the life of me |
| 22:53.08 | stew | jaxxan: /etc/services |
| 22:53.14 | sabiancrash | config file was fine, reinstalled lilo and it is :) now |
| 22:53.21 | jaxxan | that's the one! thanks man |
| 22:53.21 | sparr_ | shingouz: no |
| 22:53.30 | k-dog | Anyone have ideas on this: localhost kernel: Bad page state at prep_new_page (in process 'kjournald', page c114a8c0) |
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| 22:53.41 | furrywolf | grr! think I might have solved the mystery of the dead motherboard I got from someone... first thing I checked was the caps... all looked fine... but on checking closer, two are ever so slightly buldging. |
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| 22:54.41 | K_Dallas | it seems that cabextract takes care of downloading the fonts and installing them alltogether ;) |
| 22:54.49 | shingouz | sparr_: I am a bit out of my depth at the moment, sorry :( |
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| 22:54.54 | sabiancrash | ahh, weather kiosk back and running :D |
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| 22:55.31 | sabiancrash | thanks all |
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| 22:57.37 | sparr_ | have you ever echoed /dev/urandom to a console, then after you break it everything is garbage, even the normal output of commands and the things you type in? that is what i have right now, in every one of my virtual terminals. |
| 22:57.58 | schlurchz | Hi all. Prelinking ooo fails here because there's less than 50M free space on /. Isn |
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| 22:58.05 | stew | sparr_: type reset |
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| 22:58.15 | schlurchz | .. isn't that bogus? |
| 22:58.16 | sparr_ | stew: did that already |
| 22:58.49 | MASoft | anyone used Debian FreeBSD ? http://www.linux-dubai.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2 |
| 22:59.27 | schlurchz | What's that space recommendation prelink refers to? |
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| 23:00.02 | schlurchz | (I've a very minimal root partition, /usr is extra of course) |
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| 23:00.30 | poh | Thanks again for the help |
| 23:00.41 | enoch | network noob irc? |
| 23:00.43 | thingfish | wow, sarge has frozen, I'm going to bake a cake! |
| 23:00.54 | enoch | er, is there a network noob irc? |
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| 23:01.31 | sparr_ | i thought i left 'the only solution is reboot' behind with windows :( |
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| 23:02.00 | madhatt3r | hi |
| 23:02.09 | madhatt3r | can i get any information on how to make sarge smp? |
| 23:02.18 | resiak | !smp |
| 23:02.19 | dpkg | it has been said that smp is (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/smp-faq/, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's |
| 23:02.27 | shingouz | sparr_: There is a solution for that but unfortunately I do not remember what it is, I havent seen anything that did not cure itself with a reset :( |
| 23:02.52 | schlurchz | No one knows about prelinking here? |
| 23:02.53 | thingfish | all I had to do was pick an smp kernel using synaptic. It was easy hehe. |
| 23:03.03 | shingouz | madhatt3r: Do you have more than one CPU in your computer? |
| 23:03.09 | madhatt3r | indeed yes |
| 23:03.10 | stew | madhatt3r: apt-cache search kernel-image smp ; pick one ; apt-get install it |
| 23:03.14 | madhatt3r | 2 x celeron 400mhz |
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| 23:03.28 | madhatt3r | then recompile or no need to? |
| 23:03.29 | shingouz | madhatt3r: In that case install any of the SMP kernels and youre set |
| 23:03.37 | madhatt3r | nice |
| 23:03.50 | shingouz | madhatt3r: I think that would be a 686 smp for you |
| 23:04.29 | shingouz | madhatt3r: If possible go for a 2.6 with the pre-empting on, makes a huge difference on a desktop multi-cpu box |
| 23:04.44 | madhatt3r | right |
| 23:05.14 | madhatt3r | i see a couple of 2.6 but dunno about the pre-empting |
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| 23:06.00 | drac | !tell SNow about away |
| 23:06.07 | shingouz | madhatt3r: I think the Debian kernels have it on, I am not sure about it though as I always go custom |
| 23:06.39 | madhatt3r | i see |
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| 23:07.35 | shingouz | madhatt3r: In anycase SMP on a desktop is very nice to have, if Mozilla hogs up the cpu for some reason the desktop still runs on the other one and all is not lost. I love SMP |
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| 23:07.54 | _2nd-Rogue | yo yo yo |
| 23:07.57 | stew | madhatt3r: the debian kernels have preempt enabled |
| 23:07.57 | _2nd-Rogue | I need help |
| 23:08.01 | _2nd-Rogue | with PAM |
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| 23:08.16 | shingouz | !tell _2nd-Rogue about ask |
| 23:08.21 | madhatt3r | aye smp is way cool |
| 23:08.41 | shingouz | _2nd-Rogue: Please lose the leading underline, makes hard to type your nick :) |
| 23:09.22 | shingouz | madhatt3r: Of course every desktop has to have hotswap hardware raid too... /me runs an old server as a desktop |
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| 23:09.53 | shadow98 | how do i set samba so i can delete stuff from the share on my windows box...i can copy things...but i cannot move or delete them |
| 23:09.56 | _2nd-Rogue | sorry about leading underline |
| 23:10.08 | _2nd-Rogue | irc does not take 2 as first digit |
| 23:10.27 | pompomJuice | better!? |
| 23:10.31 | shingouz | pompomJuice: :) |
| 23:10.36 | pompomJuice | Ok |
| 23:10.52 | pompomJuice | I am clueless about this question im about to ask |
| 23:11.05 | pompomJuice | but I can quickly comprehend any answers... I guess :P |
| 23:11.10 | shingouz | pompomJuice: Well.. tell us waht the problem is |
| 23:11.15 | pompomJuice | Ok |
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| 23:11.46 | pompomJuice | I am trying to tunnel to the USA because that would give me better latency for wow |
| 23:11.50 | pompomJuice | now |
| 23:12.03 | enoch | er anyone know a good, brief networking for newbies faq? |
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| 23:12.08 | pompomJuice | I use a socks5 server on a linux box in USA |
| 23:12.20 | pompomJuice | now |
| 23:12.30 | *** part/#debian thingfish (~mark@dialup-4.245.46.74.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net) |
| 23:12.32 | pompomJuice | This socks5 program ( known as SS5 ) |
| 23:12.37 | shadow98 | having a problem with nows are we? |
| 23:12.43 | pompomJuice | can use PAM for authentication |
| 23:12.52 | pompomJuice | and it works |
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| 23:13.00 | pompomJuice | I have used pam for auth and all is well |
| 23:13.02 | pompomJuice | but |
| 23:13.07 | lucox | hi, i'm building a package (dpkg -b) ... which field (in DEBIAN/control) should i fill with application that will automaticall install with my package ? |
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| 23:13.30 | pompomJuice | the lats part of my setup, is to set it up so that only one login is allowed per user |
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| 23:13.36 | pompomJuice | now |
| 23:13.51 | sparr_ | How can I resolve this, other than sudo? X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 23:14.00 | pompomJuice | I go, use pam_limits.o in conjunction with /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 23:14.06 | K_Dallas | I installed the MS fonts, rebooted, rehashed and still I do not see the microsoft family in xfontsel! |
| 23:14.12 | pompomJuice | but |
| 23:14.20 | pompomJuice | This only works for say console logins |
| 23:14.25 | pipeline | sparr_: You will note that /usr/X11R6/bin/X is a symlink to a set of X wrapper scripts. |
| 23:14.28 | pompomJuice | it does not work for the socks5 |
| 23:14.32 | pompomJuice | so I reconed |
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| 23:14.43 | sparr_ | pipeline: no, I have. |
| 23:14.47 | lucox | nobody doesn't know answer to my question please ? |
| 23:14.54 | pompomJuice | thats because socks5 only uses pam for auth, it does not actually create a session |
| 23:15.13 | pompomJuice | so there is no such thing as he is logged in etc. |
| 23:15.18 | pompomJuice | how do I proceed !? |
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| 23:16.15 | lucox | huhuuuu ... :| |
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| 23:17.17 | petemc | pompomJuice: you realise that half your question has now disapppeared from most peoples screen, you need to be a bit more succinct and not so eager with the enter key |
| 23:17.19 | shingouz | pompomJuice: So what you want to do is to limit logons per user to one when authenticating on a Socks5 proxy with PAM? |
| 23:17.31 | shadow98 | how do i set samba so i can delete stuff from the samba share on my windows box...i can copy things...but i cannot move or delete them |
| 23:17.41 | pompomJuice | hehe |
| 23:17.43 | pompomJuice | oops |
| 23:17.47 | shingouz | :) |
| 23:17.53 | pompomJuice | Yes |
| 23:17.58 | pompomJuice | yes shin |
| 23:18.00 | pompomJuice | but |
| 23:18.04 | shingouz | !nicktab |
| 23:18.05 | dpkg | Hitting tab on a partially typed word in your IRC-client, when referencing a nickname, will increase typing productivity by miles. For example, to address exampleUser, type exam<TAB> and your IRC client will fill in the rest. Keep hitting tab if the letters you typed match more than one nick until you get the right one. |
| 23:18.12 | shingouz | !enter |
| 23:18.12 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
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| 23:18.18 | cafuego | shadow98: nicktab? |
| 23:18.19 | shingouz | ;) |
| 23:18.24 | shingouz | cafuego: Yup |
| 23:18.31 | pompomJuice | I cant use tab in ksirc |
| 23:18.34 | challenged | shadow98: are you allowed to delete according to the windows shared settings |
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| 23:18.52 | pompomJuice | But |
| 23:18.58 | shadow98 | challenged: do i just check properties of share/ |
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| 23:19.02 | pompomJuice | I think that the socks5 does not log in |
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| 23:19.29 | pompomJuice | it just uses PAM for getting back the PAM_AUTH_OK and then it ignores the rest |
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| 23:19.35 | pompomJuice | So |
| 23:19.43 | pompomJuice | I think I must go edit some code I guess |
| 23:19.56 | challenged | shadow98, yeah if it is set to readonly or to have a password.....the guys at #samba may know more im just a basic samba user so i dont know much hehe |
| 23:19.59 | pompomJuice | but I have no idea how a program is supposed to achieve this |
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| 23:20.30 | shadow98 | challenged: yeah i can't see that on properites of the drive since is a samba share |
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| 23:20.54 | pompomJuice | hehe |
| 23:21.05 | pissou | hey mates, I've got just a little problem, I'm looking for a Spanish channel, could someone help me ? |
| 23:21.24 | sparr_ | pissou: #debian -es |
| 23:21.26 | sparr_ | i think? |
| 23:21.28 | sparr_ | pissou: #debian-es |
| 23:21.30 | sparr_ | err, that |
| 23:21.41 | shingouz | !es |
| 23:21.42 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:21.49 | sparr_ | what dpkg said |
| 23:21.58 | pissou | thanks sparr_ |
| 23:22.00 | challenged | shadow98: you need to confirm it from the windows PC....if you have read write access to the files/directory on windows then you should be able to delete.... |
| 23:22.35 | shadow98 | well i know i don't because i can copy from it...but i can't write to it, delete from it or move files from it.. |
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| 23:22.44 | sparr_ | i hate playing games as root :( |
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| 23:23.57 | challenged | shadow98: id expect it to be a windows side of things |
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| 23:24.16 | enoch | any suggestion for a good brief faq on networking for newbies? |
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| 23:26.59 | under_R_run | enoch: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Networking-Overview-HOWTO.html |
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| 23:27.05 | BiMaNs | hi |
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| 23:27.29 | BiMaNs | guys is it possible to type in arabic in debian ? |
| 23:28.00 | enoch | under_R_run: thhx |
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| 23:28.22 | maher | BiMaNs: should be - intsall an arabic locale |
| 23:28.23 | zeeeee | hi all, is it possible to find out what type of ram a system has without needing to open up the box? |
| 23:28.28 | vengefuldeath87 | anyone know how to fix this? |
| 23:28.29 | vengefuldeath87 | vds:/home/venge/firefox-installer# ./firefox-installer |
| 23:28.29 | vengefuldeath87 | ./firefox-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 23:28.30 | vengefuldeath87 | vds:/home/venge/firefox-installer# sh firefox-installer |
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| 23:28.37 | dvs | zeeeee: memtest86+ |
| 23:28.56 | BiMaNs | maher from where ? |
| 23:29.00 | maher | vengefuldeath87: why don't you use a debian firefox |
| 23:29.11 | maher | BiMaNs: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 23:29.40 | zeeeee | dvs: and without rebooting into another system? |
| 23:29.41 | BiMaNs | maher and then i can type in arabic ? |
| 23:29.56 | maher | BiMaNs: i have never done so myself - try it and see |
| 23:29.58 | zeeeee | dvs: actually isn't there a way find out in windows? |
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| 23:30.10 | dvs | zeeeee: I don't know |
| 23:30.36 | enoch | i need something like the basic commands to get your ethernet port up and running, enabling dhcp and connecting to the internet using things like modprobe, ifconfig etc -- any faqs like that? |
| 23:30.45 | serialkiller | i have a problem, i am using a adaptec raid driver on my main board, kerle2.4 works good, but when i try and upgrade to kernel 2.6 it breaks and goes into a kernel panic? anyone else having this problem? |
| 23:31.12 | challenged | enoch: man dhclient man ifconfig |
| 23:31.19 | under_R_run | ser kil: Kernel Panic Description? |
| 23:31.30 | challenged | enoch: although there is a faq/howto somewhere |
| 23:31.30 | shadow98 | challenged, i just had to set writeable = yes in smb.conf |
| 23:31.36 | serialkiller | cannot find dev/console |
| 23:31.37 | zeeeee | ok, thanks dvs |
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| 23:32.03 | dvs | zeeeee: ??? I thought you didn't want to use memtest86+ |
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| 23:32.09 | challenged | shadow98, : hmm cool....surprised samba has control over that ... |
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| 23:32.30 | shadow98 | well its a share on my debian box |
| 23:32.41 | shadow98 | so it should...its not a windows share its a linux share |
| 23:32.51 | challenged | shadow98, ahh i c i thought it was on a windows box |
| 23:32.59 | shadow98 | sorry |
| 23:33.11 | challenged | shadow98, i probably read wrong |
| 23:33.27 | under_R_run | ser kil:doesn't sound raid related... |
| 23:33.32 | enoch | challenged: thx, i guess the same goes for modprobe - i just wanted a nice faq that would suggest how various command such as these are used together to get networkign up and running |
| 23:33.33 | shadow98 | must have...well thats fixed im off to play around |
| 23:33.35 | shadow98 | laterz |
| 23:33.56 | serialkiller | well i know this |
| 23:34.20 | serialkiller | at the sarge cdrom boot, i try top type linux26 and it cannot find drives |
| 23:34.39 | dvs | serialkiller: Is it a Debian kernel? |
| 23:34.40 | serialkiller | if i just hit enter it will find them with kernel2.4 |
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| 23:34.44 | serialkiller | yea |
| 23:35.04 | dvs | serialkiller: Is the link to the initrd file there for 2.6? |
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| 23:35.24 | serialkiller | so i am sayign in 2.4 it finds the drives and in 2.6 it doeasnt |
| 23:35.35 | serialkiller | dvs : i dont know |
| 23:35.48 | dasunt | What is the meaning of 'urgency'/'priority' in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf ? |
| 23:35.48 | shingouz | serialkiller: Some oldish scsi raid? |
| 23:36.00 | serialkiller | shouldnt be |
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| 23:36.14 | serialkiller | this is duel xeon 3.06 superserver from supermicro |
| 23:36.20 | steve | hmm, I've just setup a local network computer-computer via Xover cable, I've assigned the machines 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2, they can ping eachother but refuse to exchange other traffic - any ideas? |
| 23:36.32 | dasunt | The comment goes "# Priority of this version (or urgency, as dchanges would call it)" |
| 23:36.49 | dvs | steve: Set each other as the default route |
| 23:36.56 | supaman | whut? ... why cant I remove a directory from / ? .. I do rmdir /dirname and it gives me "rmdir: 'dirname': No such file or directory" |
| 23:36.59 | shingouz | serialkiller: Have you googled the specific raid already? It might have some odd things going on |
| 23:37.07 | serialkiller | yea i tried |
| 23:37.07 | supaman | I did an su |
| 23:37.11 | serialkiller | cannot find much |
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| 23:37.42 | cafuego | supaman: The directory doesn't exist, it really is irrelevant what user you are. |
| 23:37.48 | shingouz | serialkiller: What is the specific raid you have there |
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| 23:38.06 | supaman | cafuego: well, filename completion works on it, that is /dir<tab> works .. |
| 23:38.14 | analia | hello. someone has experience with debian on amd athlon 64? |
| 23:38.17 | cafuego | supaman: /dir or dir ? |
| 23:38.20 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 23:38.20 | dpkg | methinks amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 23:38.26 | supaman | cafuego: /dir |
| 23:38.37 | abrotman | analia: you did mean 64bit right? |
| 23:38.47 | cafuego | supaman: Does it have a space at the end? |
| 23:38.48 | analia | yes abrotman :) |
| 23:39.10 | steve | dvs: I just tried, still no luck |
| 23:39.15 | steve | pings but doesn't do anything else |
| 23:39.16 | analia | thanks a lot! |
| 23:39.22 | supaman | cafuego: humm .. nope, tried to do rmdir /dirname* and got the same error |
| 23:39.34 | under_R_run | steve:iptables dropping? |
| 23:39.47 | steve | everything is set to ACCEPT |
| 23:39.49 | steve | no other rules |
| 23:39.52 | under_R_run | ok |
| 23:40.05 | serialkiller | shingouz : where is the raid or scis information in proc? |
| 23:40.16 | supaman | cafuego: dont know if it matters, but this dir used to be a mountpoint and I removed the fstab entry just a moment ago ... that shouldnt matter should it? |
| 23:40.27 | maher | serialkiller: if 2.4 works why nt install with 2.4 |
| 23:40.38 | supaman | cafuego: and I have removed all the contents from the directory and unmounted it .. |
| 23:40.41 | abrotman | i read slashdot .. i see sarge is frozen .. is it any good? .. can i use x.org and kde3.6 with it ? |
| 23:40.45 | shingouz | serialkiller: Not from proc but from the board physically. There might be something someone else is able to find on google |
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| 23:41.06 | shingouz | abrotman: /topic? ;) |
| 23:41.10 | supaman | ahh .. blasted .. it wasnt unmounted .. |
| 23:41.27 | under_R_run | steve:tried telnet-ing? telent to check layer 7 connectivity |
| 23:41.39 | aldug | anyone here fluent with administering a cvs server? |
| 23:41.39 | abrotman | shingouz: but needzss kde3.14159285 !!! |
| 23:41.41 | steve | under_R_run: layer 7? |
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| 23:42.04 | steve | it times out |
| 23:42.08 | shingouz | abrotman: l337. u n33d to haxx0r it |
| 23:42.10 | steve | no actually it hangs indefinately |
| 23:42.13 | under_R_run | steve: as in OSI layers |
| 23:42.17 | steve | ag |
| 23:42.18 | steve | ah* |
| 23:42.28 | steve | nope it just hangs forever |
| 23:42.30 | abrotman | shingouz: ktx .. i g0get its |
| 23:42.36 | Thaiger | Does anyone know of a VHDL compiler other than GHDL (for linux of course) |
| 23:42.41 | under_R_run | steve:is telnetd running on both machines? |
| 23:42.44 | abrotman | ok .. i gotta stop .. this is what brain freeze feels like :) |
| 23:42.51 | under_R_run | steve:or at least the one |
| 23:43.00 | steve | debug1: Connecting to 10.0.0.2 [10.0.0.2] port 22. |
| 23:43.01 | steve | it sits there |
| 23:43.33 | abrotman | shingouz: how bout cocoa .. i'm sick :( |
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| 23:43.57 | shingouz | abrotman: Hmm... sorry, fresh out of cocoa, just had some |
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| 23:44.41 | abrotman | shingouz: im halfway through mine :) |
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| 23:44.43 | daffy-pkf | lo |
| 23:44.48 | dvs | hi |
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| 23:45.03 | Moonscope | soo, for all those ppl that have used RAID in nix b4, here is a question. I have a linux server install that is exactly how i like it, and i need to go from 1 hdd to 2 HDDs in a RAID configuration, what is the easiest way to do this? |
| 23:45.04 | shingouz | abrotman: I hope it is nothing worse than a cold |
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| 23:45.28 | cafuego | Moonscope: plug in a new HD, tell the contreoller to replicate, done. |
| 23:45.30 | abrotman | shingouz: i'm afflicted with "Igottasmokewhenidrink" .. and i think i did a number on my throat |
| 23:45.38 | dvs | MoonMind: Which RAID RAID 1? RAID 5? |
| 23:45.59 | Moonscope | cafuego: what if it is IDE and not currently on a RAID controller but an IDE controller on the motherboard.? |
| 23:46.00 | abrotman | raid5 with two drives? good luck :) |
| 23:46.13 | Moonscope | dvs: raid 1 - mirror'd i think it is. |
| 23:46.17 | dvs | abrotman: worth a shot ;-) |
| 23:46.21 | abrotman | Moonscope: did you read the raid howto? |
| 23:46.31 | Moonscope | abrotman: there is a raid howto? |
| 23:46.32 | shingouz | abrotman: I see. I have a pretty serious case of "Isurecoulduseasmokerightnow" but if I smoke inside I will get killed. With a lart... or possibly a trout |
| 23:46.41 | abrotman | shingouz: heh |
| 23:46.42 | Gumby | would anyone here know how to take a word from all the files in a directory (recursively) and change it to another word? |
| 23:46.47 | abrotman | MoonMind: tldp.org |
| 23:46.51 | abrotman | err Moonscope ^^ |
| 23:46.54 | Babbage | Gumby> yes, use sed -ei |
| 23:46.56 | Moonscope | brbn |
| 23:47.50 | under_R_run | steve:what is route output |
| 23:47.56 | Babbage | Something like ... find . -type f -exec sed -i -e 's/foo/bar/g' \; |
| 23:49.11 | Moonscope | back |
| 23:50.39 | cafuego | Moonscope: Backup, wipe, set up raid, install |
| 23:50.58 | Moonscope | can you use ghost with linux? |
| 23:51.15 | dvs | MoonMind: Depends what file systems you use |
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| 23:51.22 | cafuego | Why would you when dd/netcat does the same but quicker? ;-) |
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| 23:51.24 | dvs | Moonscope: ^^ |
| 23:51.25 | Moonscope | umm ext3 i think |
| 23:51.33 | dvs | Moonscope: That's fine |
| 23:51.44 | runedude | hi guys, how do you make your screensize bigger? |
| 23:51.44 | Moonscope | dvs: so it would work? debian i mean? |
| 23:51.53 | dvs | Moonscope: I use it |
| 23:51.54 | runedude | Like, make the maximum screensize bigger than the default. |
| 23:52.12 | dvs | Moonscope: Both 2003 and 9.0 |
| 23:52.31 | Moonscope | dvs: ooh, nice, ive only got 8, wonder if that would work, ill give it a try. |
| 23:52.51 | runedude | ?? anyone know? |
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| 23:54.18 | zumbi | runedude, ctrl+alt+'+' |
| 23:54.22 | runedude | Hm, my default is at 800x600, and I want it to be 1024x768.. how can I do this? |
| 23:54.25 | dvs | from the keypad |
| 23:54.41 | derek | is there anyway to boot a cd image from the harddrive on restart? |
| 23:54.45 | zumbi | but it has to be configured in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 23:54.47 | abrotman | !drxx runedude |
| 23:54.48 | dpkg | runedude: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 23:54.50 | runedude | ok |
| 23:55.12 | zumbi | runedude, xf86config as root, too |
| 23:56.38 | darGor | sarge out on may 30 ? |
| 23:56.39 | under_R_run | how do you make syslinux (boot disk) work for the 2.4 kernel? |
| 23:57.07 | runedude | do I need to restart X? |
| 23:57.15 | abrotman | darGor: maybe ... |
| 23:57.38 | derek | could i make a partition thats bootable and put the CD on there? |
| 23:57.42 | zumbi | runedude, i think so |
| 23:57.46 | runedude | zumbi, k |
| 23:58.21 | zumbi | under_R_run, what do you mean ? |
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| 23:58.38 | under_R_run | i'm trying to upgrade from 2.2 to 2.4 |
| 23:58.48 | under_R_run | i have a boot disk that works with 2.2 |
| 23:58.50 | zumbi | you need /boot/vmlinuz in you isolinux/ dir |
| 23:58.57 | under_R_run | btw my BIOS does not see the drives |
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| 23:59.06 | zumbi | you might have to add initrd too |
| 23:59.09 | under_R_run | so I have to use a boot disk |
| 23:59.27 | under_R_run | to use initrd |
| 23:59.32 | under_R_run | i need root to work |
| 23:59.35 | steve__ | yo- where do i put codecs for totem, kaffeine, and the other players? |
| 23:59.41 | under_R_run | but I get a kernel panic |
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| 23:59.57 | abrotman | did you read the instructions when you installed the kernel? |
| 23:59.57 | under_R_run | because it can't find the hard drive |
