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| 00:00.26 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: did you get the link about that $175 333mhz apple laptop? |
| 00:00.29 | FieldySnuts | nunez: i am running today's cvs, it runs fine. it's just not especially useful. not worth the trouble |
| 00:00.43 | FieldySnuts | nunez: it's a *major* pain in the ass to get going |
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| 00:01.15 | nunez | FieldySnuts, How much of a different from E16? |
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| 00:01.30 | FieldySnuts | nunez: generations ahead of, eye candy city |
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| 00:01.45 | DimmuR | is any1 here using noip ? |
| 00:01.51 | FieldySnuts | lots of stuff is still very broken though, so on top of the other issues.. i wouldn't bother quite yet |
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| 00:01.55 | FieldySnuts | !any1 |
| 00:01.55 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 00:01.56 | deadcat | DimmuR: yes |
| 00:01.56 | vladster | I am having alsa configuration problems, has anyone worked with it at all? |
| 00:02.14 | deadcat | !anyone |
| 00:02.14 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 00:02.14 | DimmuR | deadcat: do u know what need i to do to use it over adsl router (NAT) ? |
| 00:02.23 | ethics | vladster : chipset and kernel number ples |
| 00:02.28 | Azar | ethics I cleanup all I did yesterday and start reading documentations online |
| 00:02.35 | Azar | the alsa-driver did not helped |
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| 00:02.41 | deadcat | DimmuR: sign up and get a subdomain. check your router. it might even support it |
| 00:02.47 | vladster | kernel 2.6.10 sarge |
| 00:02.59 | ethics | Azar: i c. what chipset and mobo? |
| 00:03.09 | vladster | sound blaster platinum live 5.1 |
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| 00:03.26 | vladster | Intel gb850 |
| 00:03.37 | DimmuR | deadcat: thats whole problem it doesnt... i have domain but this router doesnt support noip |
| 00:03.49 | Azar | ethics the dreaded VIA chipset, via82xx |
| 00:03.50 | ethics | Vladster: ran alsaconf? |
| 00:03.54 | deadcat | DimmuR: then install it on your debian box. |
| 00:04.02 | nunez | FieldySnuts, Whats the good features in E17 that works now? |
| 00:04.11 | Azar | can we mix the discovery/hotplug with alsaconf? |
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| 00:04.34 | FieldySnuts | nunez: shadow dropping is extremely nice, as are transparencies, done in hardware if you have it. beyond that, nothing special at all |
| 00:04.43 | FieldySnuts | far better than xorg's/xcomposite or whatever |
| 00:05.03 | DimmuR | deadcat: i found it - its -F option in noip :] |
| 00:05.11 | nunez | FieldySnuts, its true transpareny? |
| 00:05.16 | FieldySnuts | yeah |
| 00:05.35 | kulk | hello everybody |
| 00:05.46 | FieldySnuts | so let's hope rasterman doesn't decide to tear down and start all over again (this has happened THREE times at least so far) |
| 00:05.53 | FieldySnuts | otherwise, forget it |
| 00:06.08 | ethics | Azar argh yeah...theya re getting better with all the different versions newer modules will probably help you but ill see if theres any info |
| 00:06.24 | ethics | azar: hotplug and discover shouldnt be an issue |
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| 00:07.38 | vladster | tried running jackd and I get and jack d is running but jack rack cannot see the the deamon running |
| 00:07.40 | Azar | hmmm from what I read.... but no, is impossible, I do not think I have oss modules loaded |
| 00:07.52 | nunez | FieldySnuts, I just hope it comes out badass if it took so much time |
| 00:07.54 | Azar | I checked with modconf, and none of the oss type modules were selected |
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| 00:08.09 | j_k | vladster: does alsa work, apart from this ? |
| 00:08.17 | jeff_ | whats the best performing linux bittorrent client? |
| 00:08.20 | Azar | yet this manual say: If you see a message about "sound card not detected" and you are sure you have the right ALSA driver, the presence of an OSS module could be the reason. |
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| 00:08.35 | vladster | let me check with xmms |
| 00:08.57 | ethics | Azar lsmod and check in there...they normally load with the other driver as a norm |
| 00:09.01 | Azar | ethics, also, I was checking the alsa-driver documentation: my soundcard type was not listed as supported |
| 00:09.03 | vladster | looks like it is working |
| 00:09.11 | Azar | you know... the alpha alsa-driver |
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| 00:10.13 | vladster | I am now getting the error cannot create a jack client, is jack running |
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| 00:10.29 | ethics | hmm ...whats the actuall Mobo? |
| 00:10.52 | j_k | vladster: you run jackd and jack-rack both as the same user, right? |
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| 00:11.10 | vladster | let me check |
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| 00:11.33 | Azar | ethics, a MSI Mainboard Athlon k7 |
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| 00:12.01 | Azar | ok I can see all the alsa "snd" modules but I can't tell which one might be oss modules |
| 00:12.31 | ethics | azar: snd-oss |
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| 00:12.58 | j_k | ethics: I think Azar meant OSS soundcard drivers. |
| 00:13.14 | ethics | azar are the any drivers that look soundish without snd in front? |
| 00:13.14 | lpires | Who has ipod here? |
| 00:13.15 | Azar | ethics I only have the alsa emulation for oss snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss |
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| 00:13.39 | spiorf | msg dpkg xorg |
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| 00:13.54 | vladster | as the same user the same thing happens |
| 00:13.58 | Azar | no all the modules for sound are "snd" |
| 00:14.08 | reagent | I'm looking for a tool which displays and sorts the network traffic based on IPs |
| 00:14.18 | ethics | Azar yeah thats fine sounds correct |
| 00:14.38 | Azar | ok I want to do it right this time so I take time to understand what I am doing |
| 00:14.43 | ethics | azar lspci |grep AC97 Audio Controller |
| 00:15.09 | ethics | azar what revision number? |
| 00:16.15 | j_k | vladster: does jackd say anything strange? |
| 00:16.32 | j_k | vladster: maybe, check the perms of the jack socket (somewhere in /var/run, I'd say.) |
| 00:16.37 | vladster | now it says the capture device is already in use |
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| 00:17.12 | Guerin | wheee |
| 00:17.17 | j_k | vladster: maybe another instance running? or non-full-duplex capable soundcard? |
| 00:17.19 | Guerin | rxvt on cygwin is sweet |
| 00:17.20 | Azar | ethics I think I found the first incorrect issue: doing less /proc/asound/cards I find the main card listed as V8233A and I know alsa does not recognize this card name, alsa will only take via82xx |
| 00:17.30 | Guerin | just like regular rxvt, only on windows |
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| 00:17.59 | Sora_Aoi | is there such a thing as a windows emulator for linux? |
| 00:18.08 | j_k | Sora_Aoi: it's named wine. |
| 00:18.09 | Guerin | win4lin, or qemu |
| 00:18.10 | Azar | ethics, the revision number is 40 |
| 00:18.22 | vladster | is this one of those things where I may have to restart? |
| 00:18.33 | Sora_Aoi | j_k, gui based or command line? |
| 00:18.42 | Guerin | both will allow you to run windows in linux - but if you mean something which will just let you run windows apps, wine or cedega |
| 00:18.52 | Sora_Aoi | nah no that |
| 00:19.01 | Sora_Aoi | i mean running windows OS on top of linux |
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| 00:19.10 | Guerin | Sora_Aoi: qemu |
| 00:19.14 | Sora_Aoi | ok |
| 00:19.16 | vladster | that is win 4 lin |
| 00:19.18 | Sora_Aoi | let me searcxh |
| 00:19.28 | Guerin | i think win4lin is proprietary |
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| 00:19.46 | Sora_Aoi | Vladi |
| 00:19.54 | Sora_Aoi | so that means if i download a .iso of windows |
| 00:19.57 | Sora_Aoi | i can load it using win4lin? |
| 00:20.03 | vladster | unfortunatly , if you have to run autocad, you may not have much choice |
| 00:20.20 | Sora_Aoi | ? |
| 00:20.23 | Guerin | Sora_Aoi: ... then you're breaking the law. |
| 00:20.41 | Sora_Aoi | in what way? |
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| 00:20.59 | j_k | Sora_Aoi: in downloading an .iso of Windows. |
| 00:21.08 | Guerin | microsoft oesn't offer .isos of its os for downnload |
| 00:21.11 | Guerin | strangely |
| 00:21.14 | ethics | azar: doesnt look like theres any problems on anything earlier than rev.44 but im still looking |
| 00:21.16 | r_marvin | in the "you're not supposed to download pirated software" way |
| 00:21.16 | Sora_Aoi | Guerin they do |
| 00:21.22 | Sora_Aoi | windows 2003 beta :D |
| 00:21.24 | Guerin | Sora_Aoi: where? |
| 00:21.27 | Guerin | bah |
| 00:21.34 | Guerin | good luck with that. |
| 00:21.41 | vladster | I can get a download direct from M$ since my place of work has a volume license |
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| 00:22.07 | Sora_Aoi | sigh |
| 00:22.08 | Azar | ethics news for you : Stallman went to Taiwan to persuade the vendors to release source code for drivers for linux, VIA Technology already released their source code... soon we get a relief |
| 00:22.12 | Sora_Aoi | win4lin is not what i looking for |
| 00:22.16 | vladster | it resides on the domain controller |
| 00:22.30 | Sora_Aoi | u cant remote desktop to the OS u installed using it |
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| 00:23.58 | Sora_Aoi | vladster |
| 00:24.00 | Sora_Aoi | for win4lin |
| 00:24.03 | vladster | going for a reboot |
| 00:24.28 | Sora_Aoi | i got to install the os? |
| 00:24.28 | penguinparty | I cant get alsa to work with my au8820 card . . . no /dev/dsp dmesg has some bad errors |
| 00:24.38 | vladster | that is a depreciated card, I tried using it once |
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| 00:24.48 | penguinparty | I tried getting the new alsa dirvers but now I dont know how to get them to load rather then the ones that came with the kernel |
| 00:24.49 | Sora_Aoi | ? |
| 00:24.55 | Guerin | windows users are so patient |
| 00:24.59 | vladster | It will not even work with my hardware |
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| 00:25.19 | vladster | going for reboot |
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| 00:25.37 | sean_micken | hmm... does anyone know if the front panel that comes with the Audigy sound card works okay on Linux? |
| 00:25.39 | Guerin | this guy sitting next to me has opened and shut IE about 20 times, and has been sitting there for about 10 minutes trying to load a web page, getting 'this page cannot be displayed' every time |
| 00:25.48 | penguinparty | anyone know how I can load the new snd-au8820.ko rather then the old one . . . it looks like I have two files on my drive |
| 00:25.58 | Guerin | ooh |
| 00:26.00 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 00:26.05 | Guerin | now he's running the internet connection wizard |
| 00:26.12 | Guerin | but we're on a lan behind a gateway |
| 00:26.33 | ethics | penguinparty : lsmod......modprobe -r OLDDRIVER name modprobe au8820 |
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| 00:26.55 | penguinparty | ethics: I cant unload the old one |
| 00:27.03 | penguinparty | ethics: it says its busy |
| 00:27.03 | ethics | penguinparty : modprobe snd-au8820 rather |
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| 00:27.24 | mngrif | Guerin: reach over, fix the problem, and grunt at him. in 3 seconds, for style points |
| 00:27.42 | ethics | penguin log into console only....no x running |
| 00:27.43 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: reset DNS settings? |
| 00:27.58 | Guerin | mngrif: no way. This is a korean win98 network, i don't want to get roped into fixing it whenever it breaks. |
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| 00:28.07 | TwistedEmotions | hahahah |
| 00:28.11 | penguinparty | ethics: but how do I get it to automatically at boot |
| 00:28.20 | mngrif | Guerin: actually korean? i wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole either |
| 00:28.30 | Guerin | and besides, I have no fucking idea what the probalem is - i'm on an almost-identical machine sitting next to him, and it works fine |
| 00:28.41 | Guerin | mngrif: yeah, all in korean. |
| 00:28.52 | ethics | penguinparty, add it to /etc/modules.conf |
| 00:28.54 | mngrif | tell him to reboot. solves every windows issue! |
| 00:28.56 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: just open consul... ipconfig /disconnect ipconfig /reconnect |
| 00:29.00 | penguinparty | ./lib/modules/2.6.11.8/kernel/sound/pci/au88x0/snd-au8820.ko |
| 00:29.00 | penguinparty | ./lib/modules/2.6.11.8/updates/alsa/pci/au88x0/snd-au8820.ko |
| 00:29.02 | ethics | penguin alsa driver loaded ok? |
| 00:29.02 | Guerin | ethics: no |
| 00:29.05 | penguinparty | I have two of them |
| 00:29.07 | TwistedEmotions | or what mngrif said. |
| 00:29.08 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.12 | Guerin | not modules.conf |
| 00:29.26 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: no. |
| 00:29.55 | Guerin | they don't pay me nearly enough to be a network admin here |
| 00:29.55 | penguinparty | cause the ones in the kernel dir are from my kernel build .. . but they didnt work |
| 00:29.55 | ethics | rm Guerin oh yeah sorry im a mad tabcompleter hehe |
| 00:29.55 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: isnt that your job? |
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| 00:29.59 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: hell no. |
| 00:30.00 | penguinparty | so I dld the new alsa stuff and installed |
| 00:30.00 | mngrif | Guerin: i don't get paid nearly enough to be my own network admin |
| 00:30.11 | penguinparty | but not I got two copies |
| 00:30.20 | Guerin | mngrif: heh. I don't get apid nearly enough to hire a network admin :) |
| 00:30.28 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: you know something except for computer? |
| 00:30.31 | FlimFlamMan | i'm using nautilus on sarge - trying to connect to a secure webdav server gives "davs not registered protocol" error. any ideas? |
| 00:30.35 | penguinparty | dmesg says: |
| 00:30.36 | penguinparty | RIP: 0010:[<ffffffff881276bb>] <ffffffff881276bb>{:snd_au8820:vortex_core_init+42} |
| 00:30.40 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: i know a few things. |
| 00:30.43 | Azar | ookk |
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| 00:30.46 | penguinparty | and bails |
| 00:30.52 | chealer | penguinparty: are you the guy that runs http://party.pingouin.ca/ ? |
| 00:30.55 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: i'm an english teacher. This is a korean public middleschool. |
| 00:31.02 | ethics | penguinparty, rm /lib/modules/2.6.11.8/kernel/sound/pci/au88x0/snd-au8820.ko && depmod...modprobe snd-au8820 |
| 00:31.05 | penguinparty | chealer: nope |
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| 00:31.10 | jazzmans | how do I get a list of all ata devices attached to my computer? fdisk -l doesn't show my cdrom or dvdrom devices |
| 00:31.26 | chealer | penguinparty: ok, I'd have been surprised anyway :) |
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| 00:31.39 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: haha! I knew it... to know computer one must know english... its like a dependent package.. only reason why you know it. |
| 00:31.54 | Guerin | ? |
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| 00:32.25 | mngrif | Guerin: that demands a certian amount of respect |
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| 00:32.38 | Guerin | i know about computers mostly because I've been using unix for a year and a bit |
| 00:32.38 | TwistedEmotions | ;( joke didnt make sense? |
| 00:32.53 | TwistedEmotions | Or just wasnt funny. |
| 00:32.55 | jazzmans | anyone? anyone? beuller? beuller? |
| 00:32.56 | Guerin | mngrif: yeah, I'm a rockstar at this school. |
| 00:33.05 | TwistedEmotions | hhahhaha @ jazzmans |
| 00:33.09 | ethics | jazzmans....whats your goal....ls /dev/-sd and hd names are the dev lists |
| 00:33.13 | mngrif | Guerin: complete with KISS-style tongue? |
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| 00:33.20 | Guerin | mngrif: not quite. |
| 00:33.20 | vladster | now I get hte message : open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory |
| 00:33.27 | vladster | the* |
| 00:33.38 | penguinparty | ethics: ok I did that but still when I try to send something to /dev/dsp I get no such device |
| 00:33.49 | TwistedEmotions | create the directory? |
| 00:33.59 | penguinparty | ethics: I ran the snddevices script |
| 00:34.00 | TwistedEmotions | or mount the device |
| 00:34.09 | FlimFlamMan | how do i permit non-root users to mount a webdav share using davfs2 ? |
| 00:34.10 | jazzmans | ethics, that doesn't work. any suggestions? I just want to mount the damn dvdrom, but can't find it. |
| 00:34.10 | Guerin | penguinparty: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 00:34.22 | resiak | vladster: You're using udev, and don't have snd_seq_midi |
| 00:34.22 | Azar | hmm alsaconf is not detecting my card this time |
| 00:34.24 | Guerin | FlimFlamMan: does it run throught fstab? |
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| 00:34.34 | FlimFlamMan | Guerin, not sure |
| 00:34.36 | resiak | vladster: You're using udev, and don't have snd_seq_midi loaded. modprobe snd_seq_midi |
| 00:34.52 | FieldySnuts | !magic hate ball resiak |
| 00:34.56 | FieldySnuts | c'mon. |
| 00:34.58 | resiak | !magic hate ball |
| 00:35.01 | penguinparty | ethics: still the same thing |
| 00:35.01 | FieldySnuts | oh |
| 00:35.08 | resiak | !listkeys magic hate ball |
| 00:35.10 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'magic hate ball' by key (1): magic hate ball. |
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| 00:35.30 | FieldySnuts | !blame ATi |
| 00:35.38 | FieldySnuts | heh pulling in random nicks is amusing |
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| 00:36.11 | vladster | where do I put that so it loads on boot |
| 00:36.18 | Led_Zeppelin | i have a partition, thats only 58% used, but it complains I don't have enough space |
| 00:36.24 | ethics | jazzmans, how many harddisks do you have on IDE.....sata is not ide btw |
| 00:36.26 | Guerin | vladster: /etc/modules |
| 00:36.29 | vladster | /etc/modules? |
| 00:36.30 | FieldySnuts | it being what? |
| 00:36.33 | Led_Zeppelin | /dev/hda1 17G 9.0G 6.7G 58% /data |
| 00:36.33 | penguinparty | ethics: why does the new alsa stuff install to another directory then the kernel alsa sutff? |
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| 00:36.59 | Led_Zeppelin | i still can't copy files to /data because it says I don't have any more space! |
| 00:37.00 | jazzmans | ethics, there are 2 hdd /dev/hda and /dev/hdb |
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| 00:37.01 | Led_Zeppelin | what is going on? |
| 00:37.02 | P_o_P | hi |
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| 00:37.16 | ethics | penguinparty, dunno how you installed the alsa stuff but the debian testing package doesnt do that...unstables may be different |
| 00:37.16 | Guerin | Led_Zeppelin: unmount and remount |
| 00:37.24 | Led_Zeppelin | Guerin: I did, still nothing! |
| 00:37.31 | Guerin | Led_Zeppelin: there's probably some recently-deleted file still in use or summat |
| 00:37.35 | Guerin | Led_Zeppelin: fsck |
| 00:37.42 | Led_Zeppelin | Guerin: I rebooted, and still |
| 00:37.43 | resiak | vladster: Did that work, then? |
| 00:37.47 | ethics | jazzmans, and is there a hdc in the /dev directory |
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| 00:38.07 | vladster | just put snd_seq_midi as the last entry? |
| 00:38.13 | Guerin | vladster: 1 |
| 00:38.15 | resiak | vladster: Does modprobing it work? |
| 00:38.18 | jazzmans | ethics, there's hdc hdd hde etc etc. |
| 00:38.24 | vladster | yes |
| 00:38.39 | resiak | vladster: Thanks for thanking me ;-) |
| 00:38.45 | FieldySnuts | just becuse those entries are there does not mean those devices are in your system, if you are using a static dev |
| 00:38.53 | ethics | jazz try mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom |
| 00:38.53 | vladster | danke |
| 00:38.56 | resiak | FieldySnuts: He's not, let's face it. |
| 00:39.02 | ethics | jazz theres a disk in it yeah |
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| 00:39.06 | P_o_P | [R] 530 TLS subsystem failed. Check /var/log (syslog) for details... , i have a certificate pointed by inetd.conf but it still dont work, someone can help mz plz ? |
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| 00:39.12 | resiak | FieldySnuts: Oh, sorry, I thought you were referring to what I was dealing with. |
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| 00:39.24 | jazzmans | ethics, it was /dev/hdc. thanks! |
| 00:39.26 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: magic hate ball |
| 00:39.33 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 00:39.57 | Led_Zeppelin | Guerin: still same problem |
| 00:40.03 | Led_Zeppelin | Guerin: any reason why? |
| 00:40.09 | ethics | jazzmans, normally what happens is the hard disks get priority so HDA and HDB are hd ide and the letters after are the cdrom/dvdroms |
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| 00:40.23 | vladster | Is it wise to start jackd on boot or just call it up with a script when needed |
| 00:40.32 | jazzmans | thanks ethics, I knew it was simple. :) |
| 00:40.46 | Azar | hmm all configurations and files look different now |
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| 00:41.06 | ethics | jazzmans, the other thing you may want ....gnome-volume-manager you can run that and it just mounts everything it can |
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| 00:41.16 | resiak | vladster: Just call it when you need it. |
| 00:41.20 | Guerin | Led_Zeppelin: dunno. maybe corrupted filesystem. try copying it off, mkfs on that partition again, then copy it back? |
| 00:41.23 | resiak | FieldySnuts: udev > * |
| 00:41.30 | Guerin | Led_Zeppelin: you did try fsck, right? |
| 00:41.37 | jazzmans | I don't run gnome ethics, I'm xfce4. |
| 00:41.38 | Led_Zeppelin | Guerin: hmmm, yes I did do a fsck |
| 00:41.47 | resiak | jazzmans: And your point is? |
| 00:41.49 | Led_Zeppelin | Guerin: thats not good :-( |
| 00:41.52 | Led_Zeppelin | not good at all! |
| 00:41.55 | vladster | Gotcha dunke' |
| 00:41.58 | ethics | jazzmans, see what it depends on ..i just call it from console... |
| 00:41.59 | resiak | jazzmans: It's a truly wonderful gadget. I use it with Openbox and bits of xfce4 |
| 00:42.13 | ethics | jazzmans, i have gnome installed but i run gnome stuff in kde normally |
| 00:42.14 | resiak | jazzmans: Of course, if you're anti-udev, then, well, you're stuffed. |
| 00:42.17 | jazzmans | I'll look at it if y'all like it. thanks. |
| 00:42.37 | colter | will Sarge stick with postgresql 7.4 permanently? Will I have to turn to backports.org from day 1? :-) |
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| 00:42.52 | resiak | colter: That's, erm, the whole point of Stable. |
| 00:43.51 | P_o_P | someone can help me with GLFTPD |
| 00:43.52 | Guerin | killerbunny! |
| 00:43.59 | ethics | resiak, how do you run g-v-m? i am only just starting to look at it based on your comments the other day |
| 00:44.03 | plugwash | colter sarge isn't going to get any more major updates now |
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| 00:44.05 | Guerin | how did my damn bunneh get to DENMARK? |
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| 00:44.16 | cafuego | Guerin: train |
| 00:44.17 | vladster | Now that that is working, I am grabbing ardour |
| 00:44.19 | resiak | ethics: `gnome-volume-manager` is the simple answer there. |
| 00:44.23 | ethics | resiak, is it runnable as a daemon etc? |
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| 00:44.36 | resiak | ethics: Yes. I run it from my ~/.xsession |
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| 00:44.46 | resiak | ethics: gnome-volume-properties are what they say. |
| 00:44.49 | Guerin | cafuego: he was still on his porch this morning, he's making time |
| 00:44.53 | colter | resiak: didn't want to face the thruth; when postgresql went native on windows with 8.0, I was hoping I could upgrade all my systems to 8.0 |
| 00:44.53 | plugwash | colter if you wan't major updates then you should go onto the new testing (etch) after sarge release |
| 00:45.10 | Guerin | then again, maybe he just broke into the house and is using my computer to haxx0r computers in denmark |
| 00:45.10 | ethics | resiak, cool ill look at it.....PC not here im at a work windozer pc |
| 00:45.16 | Gothfunc | getting the error "xircom_tulip_cb: outl_CSR6 too many attempts". how can i suppress it? |
| 00:45.40 | plugwash | or get packages you want updated versions of from places other than your distro (ie backports.org) |
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| 00:46.51 | jeff_ | !dpkg java |
| 00:46.51 | dpkg | a platform independent OO language. Server-side Java is extremely powerful due to the threads capabilities and the huge number of APIs available. On the other hand, Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java> and <sid mozilla java> (for starters). write once, run nowhere, or write once, run away |
| 00:47.05 | jeff_ | !dpkg install java |
| 00:47.05 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? If you're in sarge or sid, ask me about <java-package>. If you're in woody, grab java-package manually from http://packages.debian.org/java-package and then ask me about <java-package> for instructions on how to use it. Also, ask me about <java-package howto> |
| 00:47.14 | resiak | jeff_: "dpkg foo" or "!foo". In any case, /msg dpkg msgdpkg |
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| 00:47.29 | jeff_ | k |
| 00:47.29 | colter | plugwash: am I correct in the assumption that the postgres8 from the new testing would basically be a debian-packaged version of the official releases? |
| 00:47.36 | resiak | colter: Yeah. |
| 00:47.58 | smo_ | i just tried nerolinux, good not free but good |
| 00:48.10 | FieldySnuts | we care |
| 00:48.14 | colter | resiak: good to know, thanks |
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| 00:48.32 | resiak | colter: It might be patched for FHS-like stuff, I guess. |
| 00:48.53 | mrzero | Is it safe to change my sources.list from sid to sarge? |
| 00:49.07 | jeff_ | !dpkg java-package |
| 00:49.07 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, java-package is the new name for mpkg-j2se... err, I mean j2se-package... DAMN IT, CAN'T THEY PICK A NAME?! Anyway, it lets you build a .deb file from Sun's non-free upstream Java distributions. See "man make-jpkg". Cf. "make-kpkg" (from kernel-package).only in sarge and sid currently, but it's a -all package, so it's safe to use it in woody. This packages lives in 'contrib', so make sure you have that in ... |
| 00:49.09 | mrzero | in other words, going from unstable to stable |
| 00:49.14 | mrzero | testing |
| 00:49.36 | TwistedEmotions | !downgrade |
| 00:49.36 | dpkg | from memory, downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
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| 00:50.11 | mrzero | ah, thanks |
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| 00:50.24 | plugwash | mrzero yes you can change the sources from sid to sarge and you shouldn't really break too much but you may have problems with dependencies when installing stuff |
| 00:50.38 | TwistedEmotions | mrzero: you can change sources... but downgrading is not really possible. As far as changing sources it wouldnt do anything. |
| 00:50.48 | mrzero | as long as it's just dependency-problems |
| 00:50.53 | jeff_ | how do i install java |
| 00:51.04 | FieldySnuts | geez. all that for nothing |
| 00:51.09 | TwistedEmotions | lol. |
| 00:51.12 | TwistedEmotions | !lol |
| 00:51.12 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a knoppix user. |
| 00:51.13 | plugwash | well it would stop upgrading stuff to the new versions in sid and anything new you installed would be from sarge |
| 00:51.28 | TwistedEmotions | jeff_ read that shit man. |
| 00:51.33 | FieldySnuts | oh in that case; lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol |
| 00:51.52 | jeff_ | im not sure how to add contrib |
| 00:52.11 | jeff_ | and how to do the other things |
| 00:52.40 | ethics | jeff_ : nano /etc/apt/sources.list ctrlx exits and asks you if you wanna save |
| 00:52.41 | resiak | mrzero: You won't be downgrading, so you'll get all the bad points of sid without any new packages ever. |
| 00:53.08 | TwistedEmotions | mrzero: Why do you want to go to stable? |
| 00:53.15 | plugwash | knoppix was what brought me to debian initially and i still have some systems that started life as knoppix hdinstalls |
| 00:53.27 | resiak | mrzero: So it's a _really_ bad thing to do. If you want to downgrade you'll have to reinstall every package that differs in version. Just reinstall if you want to use pure Sarge. |
| 00:53.32 | TwistedEmotions | if anything at least go to testing... that was after a year or two you should be all caught up. |
| 00:53.45 | mrzero | okey |
| 00:53.53 | jeff_ | so do i need to add a line for contrib deb-src too |
| 00:54.08 | ethics | mrzero, i think your better to reinstall the sarge netinstaller and go from there |
| 00:54.38 | ethics | jeff_ i dont know i didnt read what you were doing just answered the hoe to add contrib hehe |
| 00:54.40 | plugwash | knoppix isn't too bad provided you know how to use apt |
| 00:54.43 | mrzero | No I think I'll just keep sid on that server |
| 00:54.55 | mrzero | Was smart enough to install testing on the other servers |
| 00:55.08 | TwistedEmotions | What kind of a fu***ing idiot installs sid on a SERVER? |
| 00:55.23 | mrzero | And that's why I asked :) |
| 00:55.30 | TwistedEmotions | mrzero: Dude... reformat. |
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| 00:55.32 | zinx | TwistedEmotions: the kind who wants to keep his job, via having to fix the server every day |
| 00:55.34 | Karnaugh | TwistedEmotions: why not? |
| 00:55.35 | ethics | mrzero: server unstable = instant advice for you |
| 00:55.37 | _RA_ | \quit |
| 00:55.47 | TwistedEmotions | zinx: lol... true. |
| 00:56.05 | mrzero | It hasn't broken on me yet though.. |
| 00:56.07 | j_k | one less knoppix user :-) |
| 00:56.19 | ethics | mrzero, i would have thought you had to go out of your way to get unstable heheh...not to worry you can reinstall one day if its an issue |
| 00:56.31 | TwistedEmotions | Karnaugh: because every other day you have another problem... need to keep up on new security problems left and right... just not a smart idea for a server... thats why NO one does it. |
| 00:56.48 | Karnaugh | TwistedEmotions: we do. |
| 00:56.59 | mrzero | ethics: yeah, i know.. |
| 00:57.04 | ethics | mrzero, yeah but when it does will you be able to cope without it? |
| 00:57.09 | TwistedEmotions | Karnaugh: we being who? |
| 00:57.16 | Karnaugh | TwistedEmotions: us. |
| 00:57.23 | TwistedEmotions | Karnaugh: you and three other people in the world? |
| 00:57.24 | Karnaugh | ;) |
| 00:57.41 | mrzero | ethics: depends on what package etc. breaks |
| 00:57.43 | Karnaugh | TwistedEmotions: so what, you use woody or something? |
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| 00:57.51 | TwistedEmotions | yup. |
| 00:57.59 | ethics | mrzero, i have 3 spare debian boxen around in case all this microsoft crap falls over because most of the time its a werid nondescript errror and cant be debugged very easily... |
| 00:58.06 | TwistedEmotions | only update packages that need updating for new support reasons. |
| 00:58.08 | Azar | desesperation, second alsa installation and now it does not see my carde |
| 00:58.09 | mrzero | But I've been running sid on that server for over a year with no problems |
| 00:58.10 | Azar | card |
| 00:58.11 | Azar | hm |
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| 00:58.27 | Guerin | thepiratebay.com legal threats section ++ |
| 00:58.33 | Karnaugh | TwistedEmotions: well, thats great if you dont need to do usefull stuff |
| 00:58.38 | ethics | azar try modprobe sndazx |
| 00:58.42 | ethics | azar try modprobe snd-azx |
| 00:58.42 | TwistedEmotions | and security updates... or durring new feature adds. Why not run something that is SECURE and TESTED. |
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| 00:58.54 | Guerin | mrzero: you've either been lucky, or you haven't upgraded often |
| 00:58.54 | TwistedEmotions | Karnaugh: lol... like what? |
| 00:59.07 | ethics | azar just an idea as its cmedia rebadged i thinks |
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| 00:59.23 | mrzero | Guerin: yeah, i think so also.. |
| 00:59.47 | mrzero | Instead of winning the lottery, I've kept sid stable |
| 00:59.48 | mrzero | :P |
| 01:01.10 | Guerin | hah |
| 01:01.10 | TwistedEmotions | ohhh fuck. Just accidentally upgraded the shit out of my server. Was wondering why it was running so slow ;P |
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| 01:01.31 | Guerin | well, i've been running sid for a while, and it DOES break. Happily, I'm able to fix it. |
| 01:01.34 | Guerin | usually |
| 01:01.41 | sparr_ | I am looking at an open-source shareware game. The game itself is free. The first N levels of content are free. You have to pay for the rest. Would this meet the requirements for a non-non-free debian package? |
| 01:01.54 | Guerin | sparr_: absolutely not |
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| 01:02.14 | sparr_ | Guerin: so i assumed. why not? if the other levels didnt exist then it would be free, no? |
| 01:02.22 | TwistedEmotions | non-non-free probably not even non-free. |
| 01:02.23 | Guerin | sparr_: the game engine, if it could be split away from the content and was appropriately licensed, could be contrib |
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| 01:02.39 | Guerin | sparr_: look at home the 'quake2' package is set up |
| 01:02.46 | rendie | how come when extracting audio and video files with mkvextract i get different length of video/audio? |
| 01:02.47 | sparr_ | Guerin: this is like saying xmms cant be 'free' because some people sell MP3s |
| 01:02.57 | caphuso | if there is free content, it can go in main |
| 01:03.06 | sparr_ | caphuso: there is, both official and user-created |
| 01:03.11 | technos | sparr_: Look at it like this. It's a free game. You (as a company as well as the developer) offer an "expansion pack" for the free game for $19.99. The bade game would be free (beer/speech) |
| 01:03.18 | Guerin | sparr_: no, it's not. read my explanation above. The whole game and content, as you explained it, cannot go into main in one package. |
| 01:03.20 | resiak | sparr_: Would you be distributing the content in a form and under a license that allows gamedata to be modified and redistributed? |
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| 01:03.34 | sparr_ | Guerin: of course, the non-free content would not go in main |
| 01:03.56 | sparr_ | resiak: i believe so. ill have to check the license on the content |
| 01:03.56 | caphuso | Guerin: why? |
| 01:04.13 | Azar | I do not know any way to clean the mess I did with alsa here, I will have to reinstall Woody and upgrade to Sarge again |
| 01:04.17 | Guerin | caphuso: becase some of the content is clearly non-free? |
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| 01:04.26 | resiak | Guerin: What if that content doesn't come with it. |
| 01:04.28 | technos | Azar: --purge is your friend! |
| 01:04.32 | caphuso | Guerin: then that content can't go in. but it doesn't mean the free parts can't |
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| 01:04.48 | dondelelcaro | resiak: that's fine, but there is a dependency relationship between the engine and some content. |
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| 01:04.53 | Azar | technos, --purge did not clean any leftover directories and files scattered all over |
| 01:04.56 | Guerin | resiak: read what I wrote at 10:01:06 |
| 01:04.58 | Guerin | my time |
| 01:05.09 | dondelelcaro | resiak: unless there is a piece of free content that can go into main, the engine can only go into contrib. |
| 01:05.19 | caphuso | Guerin: and because the engine is free, and there is free content available, it can be handled like the doom packages |
| 01:05.19 | sparr_ | dondelelcaro: there is free content that can go into main |
| 01:05.22 | ethics | Azar sorry for not being to up to date with where you are.....have you updated alsa using M-A ? |
| 01:05.22 | resiak | dondelelcaro, Guerin: Mmm. The game is playable without the non-free content, though. |
| 01:05.34 | Guerin | caphuso: which i used as an example |
| 01:05.34 | dondelelcaro | sparr_: then if there is free content, the game can go into main. |
| 01:05.36 | Azar | ethics, yes |
| 01:05.42 | Guerin | caphuso: s/doom/quake2/ |
| 01:05.48 | dondelelcaro | (assuming the game itself is free) |
| 01:05.51 | resiak | Guerin: doom has free content. Quake2 doesn't. |
| 01:05.58 | ethics | Azar: and you ran depmod and alsaconf and it didnt find card? |
| 01:05.58 | caphuso | Guerin: two different things |
| 01:06.13 | Guerin | resiak: quake2 DOES have free content, it's just not in debian. |
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| 01:06.25 | resiak | Guerin: Oh. |
| 01:06.30 | Guerin | (and it's debatable whether it's worth playing or using) |
| 01:06.34 | Azar | ethics alsaconf is 1.08 and did not see my card, the old alsaconf 1.04 did |
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| 01:06.41 | jeff_ | soo, does anyone have some help for me to install...java? |
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| 01:06.48 | resiak | !tell jeff_ -about install java |
| 01:06.50 | Guerin | jeff_: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 01:06.53 | ethics | Azar ok sec lettme search a sec... |
| 01:07.04 | caphuso | Guerin: well, you don't want to play freedoom either |
| 01:07.23 | sparr_ | its a pretty cool game. i shall investigate the licensing on the official free(beer) content |
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| 01:09.02 | Karnaugh | "We have a gentoo llamah at work", "oh god, plesae tell me you've at least tried to kill him", "no, i did worse - i gave him a PIII 500 as a desktop" |
| 01:09.12 | Karnaugh | Gentoo jokes never get old |
| 01:10.28 | reagent | Karnaugh: heh |
| 01:10.50 | ethics | azar: VT82C686 on your mobo yeah? so its a super south? |
| 01:11.02 | sparr_ | darn |
| 01:11.05 | sparr_ | although the game is free |
| 01:11.10 | sparr_ | i do not believe it is freely distributable :( |
| 01:11.16 | d03boy | hello debian people :) |
| 01:11.17 | sparr_ | so much for that plan |
| 01:11.19 | Guerin | sparr_: what license? |
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| 01:11.53 | sparr_ | Guerin: their own, more windows-eula-ish than free software. they give it away for free, but the license is very not-free-ish |
| 01:12.01 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:12.12 | Guerin | typical windows-software author |
| 01:12.23 | sparr_ | a good candidate for an ebuild |
| 01:12.32 | jetscreamer | !worship jfs |
| 01:12.57 | Guerin | jetscreamer: ? |
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| 01:13.05 | jetscreamer | 42 |
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| 01:14.23 | Azar | ethics: agpgart: Detected VIA KT266/KY266x/KT333 chipset |
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| 01:14.45 | Azar | ethics: via82cxxx_audio Via 686a/8233/8235 audio driver 1.9.1-ac4-2.5 |
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| 01:15.18 | Azar | I wish I could uninstall all that alsa-driver I installed last night |
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| 01:16.07 | ethics | azar: i thinks you can but shouldnt need to |
| 01:16.27 | Azar | ethics, that alsa-driver installed the wrong alsaconfig version |
| 01:16.48 | Azar | alsaconfig version 1.0.4 was good this alpha 1.0.8 does not support my card |
| 01:17.08 | Guerin | Azar: that via chipset is common as muck. |
| 01:17.18 | Guerin | are you talking about another one? |
| 01:17.32 | ethics | Azar thats strange they normally roll up all the versions into sets so all previous stay |
| 01:17.35 | Azar | yup guering but it seems the alsa developers omitted it in the new driver |
| 01:17.42 | vladster | had to introduce Sors to the concept of a blade |
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| 01:18.15 | Azar | ethics, went to modconf and all the sound modules like 12 of them gone, only three left |
| 01:18.47 | Guerin | Azar: what kernel version? |
| 01:19.00 | Azar | Guerin, 2.6.8 precompiled |
| 01:19.23 | Guerin | Azar: SND_VIA82XX=m in my 2.6.8 debian kernel |
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| 01:19.30 | Guerin | Azar: it's there alright. |
| 01:19.33 | ethics | Azar: alsaconf said no cards found...therefor fixes modconf for you |
| 01:19.36 | Azar | I am left with so much trash in /etc, /usr I am not sure how to clean |
| 01:19.44 | Azar | Guerin, I messed up |
| 01:19.55 | Guerin | Azar: give me the output of lsmod |grep snd on a httpd |
| 01:19.59 | Guerin | Azar: ? |
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| 01:20.14 | vladster | ever consider the power of a cluster of 154 bladse in a cluster? |
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| 01:20.45 | Azar | Guerin I purged all I could alsa* |
| 01:20.47 | darkgamer20 | hey guys |
| 01:20.49 | darkgamer20 | and girls |
| 01:20.55 | darkgamer20 | if there are any |
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| 01:20.59 | resiak | !tell darkgamer20 -about enter |
| 01:21.09 | Guerin | Azar: ok. That card is supported in-kernel, so it will work. |
| 01:21.20 | vladster | "etu resiak?" |
| 01:21.28 | darkgamer20 | resiak: chill out dude |
| 01:21.35 | Guerin | why is nobody ever called lightgamer or lightwolf or happysoul or anything? |
| 01:21.36 | joel_ | how can I find out why starting firefox suddenly results in a segmentation fault? |
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| 01:21.44 | Guerin | whatup with the 'dark' obsession |
| 01:21.47 | darkgamer20 | Guerin: lol |
| 01:21.56 | resiak | Whatup with the 'lol' expression? |
| 01:22.03 | Guerin | joel_: strace might help |
| 01:22.04 | darkgamer20 | ummm |
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| 01:22.20 | Azar | ok I do not see any other solution I will reinstall all the system was messed up |
| 01:22.37 | Guerin | bah |
| 01:22.38 | joel_ | Guerin: thanks, that did the trick |
| 01:22.42 | Guerin | give up, then |
| 01:22.44 | nunez | what display number do I need to start another window manager? |
| 01:22.57 | resiak | Azar: Listen to Guerin. Don't just reinstall, learn how to fix it. |
| 01:23.11 | Fluten | can partitions be easily resized in linux? such as to increase my swap from 500MB to 1.2GB, without having to back up everything and repartition |
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| 01:23.19 | resiak | !resize partitions |
| 01:23.20 | Guerin | Fluten: not really. |
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| 01:23.46 | Guerin | Fluten: you risk breaking things unless you move all data off adjacent partitions, and even then it's risky |
| 01:24.00 | Azar | resiak, I wish but I cannot see how to clean up all those files, for example in /usr/src/alsa/modules/alsa-driver I have like 20 files leftover from --purge |
| 01:24.10 | Guerin | Azar: just leave them |
| 01:24.11 | Azar | can I go rm one by one? |
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| 01:24.18 | Guerin | no |
| 01:24.24 | Guerin | don't just randomly remove files |
| 01:24.40 | Azar | alsa-kernel why is not cleaning up? |
| 01:24.52 | darkgamer20 | how come normal user can't have access to my windows mounted partition |
| 01:24.54 | darkgamer20 | ?? |
| 01:25.09 | Guerin | Azar: oh, actually - why the fuck were you building alsa modules for a 2.6 kernel? |
| 01:25.11 | Azar | so how can I understand to make a new install over old files? or files that will negatively influence a new install? |
| 01:25.16 | Guerin | darkgamer20: because you haven |
| 01:25.21 | Guerin | t set it up right |
| 01:25.25 | MrKeuner | what 2.6 kernel comes with latest debian-installer netinstall.iso? |
| 01:25.25 | ethics | Guerin: from what i can figure out from google pages is that this chipset moved drivers a few times...originally it worked on intel8x0 driver then they made a Via82xx and that uses both cmedia and via stuff in it |
| 01:25.33 | darkgamer20 | Guerin: what do you mean? |
| 01:25.42 | Azar | Guerin, doesn't alsa work for 2.6. and up? |
| 01:25.55 | resiak | !tell darkgamer20 -about vfatrw |
| 01:26.19 | Guerin | darkgamer20: add a uid, gid and or umask option to your fstab entry, and make sure the user can access the mount point |
| 01:26.28 | resiak | MrKeuner: A 2.6.8, which you should replace with an appropriate kernel-package when you've installed. |
| 01:26.34 | darkgamer20 | resiak: my windows part is ntfs |
| 01:26.37 | ethics | guerin : alsa didnt pick it up from the original kernel drivers. others had more success with the 1.0.8 drivers on various distros... |
| 01:26.38 | joel_ | man I really hate that * does not expand to starting dots in filenames |
| 01:26.41 | resiak | !tell darkgamer20 -about ntfs |
| 01:26.50 | liable | Azar: how did you install the new alsa? should be an uninstall script if you compiled it |
| 01:27.06 | Guerin | graah |
| 01:27.09 | Guerin | jesus |
| 01:27.13 | ethics | liable module assistant |
| 01:27.19 | Guerin | that chipset DOES WORK with the 2.6.8 kernels in sarge |
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| 01:27.33 | Guerin | i know this because i had a machine running it. |
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| 01:27.50 | ethics | Guerin some revisions are not the same....rev 40 and rev 50 were change points |
| 01:28.01 | liable | no-one said it didnt :P |
| 01:28.04 | Guerin | and YOU DON'T NEED to compile alsa modules for 2.6 kernels |
| 01:28.40 | Solet-deb | does anyone know of an ftp client that will work with gnome in such a fashion that i can right click a file and ftp upload it to a server that would be put into the popup menu? |
| 01:28.45 | ethics | guerin im not saying it wont work with kernel one im just saying that others had solved it going up versions |
| 01:28.48 | resiak | Solet-deb: Nautilus? |
| 01:29.11 | Solet-deb | nautilus is an ftp client? |
| 01:29.14 | resiak | Solet-deb: Yes. |
| 01:29.26 | resiak | Solet-deb: File -> Connect to server ? |
| 01:29.42 | Azar | I keep installing and purging alsa, it is not working |
| 01:29.58 | Guerin | ok, understand this about alsa: |
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| 01:30.22 | Solet-deb | resiak: i have nautilus running i see it when gnome starts... but where is it in my applications menu? |
| 01:30.29 | liable | Solet-deb: gftp or something is pointy clickety |
| 01:30.33 | resiak | Solet-deb: It's the whole entire file manager. |
| 01:30.38 | resiak | Solet-deb: "Home"? |
| 01:30.43 | nunez | export DISPLAY=:3 |
| 01:30.44 | Guerin | alsa is two parts: kernel modules and userspace utils. The kernel modules are what determines whether your card works or not. The userspace utils help you get it working and provide things like mixers and players and so on. |
| 01:30.44 | nunez | is that right? |
| 01:30.59 | Solet-deb | ohhhhh... thanks |
| 01:31.04 | resiak | Solet-deb: Once you have connected to an FTP server, it will thereafter show up in "Computer". |
| 01:31.09 | resiak | Solet-deb: You can make links to it, etc. |
| 01:31.16 | Solet-deb | cool |
| 01:31.24 | Guerin | if the kernel supports your sound device, you will get sound. In debian's 2.6.8 kernels, that chipset is supported. |
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| 01:32.27 | Azar | Alsaconfig 1.0.8 tells me: No supported PnP or PCI card found : while yesterday 1.0.4 found my card |
| 01:32.33 | Solet-deb | resiak: whats the difference between 'user name' and 'name to use for connection'? |
| 01:32.41 | Guerin | Azar: alsaconfig lies. |
| 01:32.48 | Azar | Guerin, I know |
| 01:32.50 | resiak | Solet-deb: The altter means "title"? |
| 01:33.03 | liable | Azar: if it worked yesterday, why did you get a newer version? |
| 01:33.06 | Guerin | Azar: give me the output of lsmod|grep snd on a httpd |
| 01:33.17 | Azar | liable, because that is what apt-get install gives me |
| 01:33.18 | Solet-deb | standard ftp port is 25 right? |
| 01:33.23 | Azar | I do not get to pick and chose |
| 01:33.31 | Guerin | Solet-deb: no. |
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| 01:33.37 | Solet-deb | crap... what is it? |
| 01:33.49 | resiak | !jfgi |
| 01:33.50 | dpkg | somebody said jfgi was just fucking google it |
| 01:33.57 | Guerin | Solet-deb: grep -i ftp /etc/services |
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| 01:34.51 | Solet-deb | ah thx Guerin |
| 01:35.11 | Solet-deb | hey i was close tho |
| 01:35.26 | Guerin | you would have been trying a smtp server with a ftp client |
| 01:35.37 | TwistedEmotions | Doesnt quake 2 have audio? |
| 01:35.41 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: Yes. |
| 01:35.48 | Solet-deb | Guerin: ROFL |
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| 01:35.55 | obsmav | i am trying to install an old lazer jet 4 printer through cups, there are 2 hp drivers that match and the install through the cups web admin system works fine, but when i print a test page nothing happens... the printer simply behaves as if there is no data being sent to it, what do i do now ? |
| 01:36.14 | TwistedEmotions | fawq |
| 01:36.20 | Azar | I have built crap over crap directories and files and the only way I can clean is reinstalling |
| 01:36.26 | Azar | there is no fix for a pile of crap |
| 01:36.33 | Guerin | Azar: bullshit. |
| 01:36.41 | Guerin | but hell, you want to do it, do it. |
| 01:36.58 | Azar | Guerin, how can I sit with a sistem that piled wrong drivers ? |
| 01:37.02 | Guerin | just do it already - stop fucking whining about it |
| 01:37.09 | ethics | obsmav: any chance your not in the right pagesize? hps are quirky about that |
| 01:37.10 | Guerin | Azar: it didn't. |
| 01:37.23 | obsmav | ethics, ? |
| 01:37.24 | Solet-deb | Azar: with the exception of hardware destruction, anything that was broken in binary can be fixed in binary :) |
| 01:37.41 | Azar | Solet-deb unfortunately I am not a coder |
| 01:37.42 | ethics | obsmav : letter ,a4 |
| 01:37.43 | obsmav | ethics, it;'s a test page i dont see how i could set the page size as somehing else |
| 01:37.44 | Guerin | the only thing you should reinstall for is pwn4g3 |
| 01:37.53 | Azar | :) |
| 01:38.00 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know how to setup audio for quake2? I already have it setup for XFCE... dont know why I still cant hear anything |
| 01:38.01 | obsmav | ethics, but yea i beleave it is on the correct setting |
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| 01:38.12 | Azar | well at least I reinforce my skills at installing Debian and upgrading |
| 01:38.13 | Solet-deb | azar: you dont need to be, breaking something by pointing and clicking is stilll breaking it in binary as that is how the cpu see's it |
| 01:38.24 | obsmav | ethics, also i get a message that sais "parralell port bussy, will retry in 30 seconds" |
| 01:38.29 | Azar | Solet-deb I am not using a mouse yet |
| 01:38.29 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: some games need some sound fuckeruppery to work |
| 01:38.30 | MrKeuner | resiak/ ok thank you |
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| 01:38.49 | Solet-deb | Azar: or a keyboard, or a fucking palm scanner, its ALL binary |
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| 01:39.04 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: Errr... google fuckeruppers? |
| 01:39.15 | Solet-deb | the point is unless you made things catch fire, it can be fixed |
| 01:39.17 | Azar | Solet-deb I would just want to go back to the system configurations that I had 2 days ago |
| 01:39.23 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: that might get you some fun hits, but probably none bout quake2 sound. |
| 01:39.32 | Azar | but that is not possible anymore |
| 01:39.33 | ethics | obsmav: kk obsmav hmm no idea sorry matey some of the others are prolly better with cups...i just had hp issues once cause by page size on a 4mv ....it was from application tho so pagesize fixed it |
| 01:39.36 | Solet-deb | azar: tape backups are sexy :) |
| 01:39.42 | ideal | Hi, I want to set up Apache2 + SSL. I loaded SSL mod and generated certificate. But I can't find https port via nmap. May anyone help me on this? |
| 01:39.43 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: i don't play games much anymore, so I don't know what the full skinny is. |
| 01:39.44 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: expected as much... damn |
| 01:39.53 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: all good. |
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| 01:40.00 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: aoss ? |
| 01:40.06 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: Do you use ASLA? |
| 01:40.10 | Guerin | ideal: you need a Listen directive |
| 01:40.14 | Nigel | ideal: 443 |
| 01:40.15 | TwistedEmotions | ASLA |
| 01:40.35 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: C'mon, typo. Do you use ALSA? |
| 01:41.03 | TwistedEmotions | I understood... I meant yes ASLA |
| 01:41.04 | ideal | Guerin, Migel: Where and how can I make it work? |
| 01:41.11 | pingouin_ | what package can help me to decompres an .rar file (from windows i guess) ? |
| 01:41.28 | sean_micken | pingouin_: unrar? |
| 01:41.31 | resiak | !unrar |
| 01:41.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, unrar is a non-free package and a command used to extract .rar archives, in stable and unstable. ask me about unrar-free |
| 01:41.38 | resiak | pingouin_: Is it WaReZ? |
| 01:41.40 | Xenguy | pingouin_: unrar (there's also an unrar-free in sid now supposedly) |
| 01:41.45 | obsmav | ethics, thanx anyway :P |
| 01:41.53 | ethics | obsmav, np |
| 01:41.58 | sean_micken | resiak: why would that matter? |
| 01:41.58 | pingouin_ | resiak: absolutly not i swear |
| 01:42.04 | TwistedEmotions | pingouin_: get gentoo then install unrar... if you want a GUI for unrar. |
| 01:42.08 | Azar | well I can live without sound few more months, too bad I have not learned much with alsa |
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| 01:42.17 | resiak | sean_micken: Because it usuallyis. |
| 01:42.24 | resiak | pingouin_: *nods* Right. |
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| 01:42.29 | pingouin_ | Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 01:42.32 | pingouin_ | sarge |
| 01:42.33 | resiak | !nonfree |
| 01:42.33 | dpkg | well, non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianers would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.htm |
| 01:42.46 | TwistedEmotions | What is point of warez with linux? |
| 01:42.46 | DarknessX | \ |
| 01:42.51 | TwistedEmotions | You means movies? |
| 01:42.56 | TwistedEmotions | and pron?\ |
| 01:43.00 | bucky | !unrar-nonfree |
| 01:43.00 | Guerin | ideal: you need a Listen 443 directive for apache to listen on that port. how you set up ssl etc. is documented exhaustively at httpd.apache.org |
| 01:43.01 | resiak | !unrar =~ s/unstable/unstable. You'll need non-free in your sources list. |
| 01:43.03 | Gnea | hrm |
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| 01:43.10 | Guerin | ideal: you also should be askin in #apavche |
| 01:43.14 | Guerin | s/v// |
| 01:43.41 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: U mad at me ;( u didnt tell me anything when I said ASLA.. |
| 01:43.45 | pingouin_ | hmm i think i have non free in my source.list |
| 01:43.51 | pingouin_ | but no sid for sure |
| 01:43.57 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: Well, I ordered Uplink the other day, and they'll only post it to my credit card address, which is a hundred miles away, so I warezed it while I'm waiting. |
| 01:44.11 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: Do you use ALSA? |
| 01:44.15 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: you evil basterd |
| 01:44.18 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: I thought you were mocking my typo. :-) |
| 01:44.21 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: yes... |
| 01:44.37 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: not mocking typo... looking for answer ;( |
| 01:44.39 | Guerin | resiak: A/S/L/A? |
| 01:44.45 | Gnea | lol |
| 01:44.49 | Gnea | resiak: you a cop? |
| 01:44.59 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: apt-get install alsa-oss, and run aoss quake2 |
| 01:45.00 | d0ugie | what is a very thorough and free apt-getable web log analyzer other than webalizer? |
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| 01:45.04 | pingouin_ | !unrar-free |
| 01:45.05 | dpkg | it has been said that unrar-free is an unarchiver for .rar files that can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format, which is by far the most used RAR format (ask me about unrar for 3.0). in main unstable |
| 01:45.06 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: More to the point, FTFM |
| 01:45.16 | TwistedEmotions | !FTFM |
| 01:45.16 | dpkg | ftfm is probably an acronym meaning "fuck the fucking manual." Its usually given as a response to rtfm, when reading the manual has failed |
| 01:45.22 | resiak | Erm. |
| 01:45.28 | resiak | s/FT/RT/ :-) |
| 01:45.29 | TwistedEmotions | Ahhh kk. |
| 01:45.33 | pingouin_ | damn..i need unstable :/ |
| 01:45.45 | resiak | pingouin_: Do you? |
| 01:45.46 | ethics | guerin what driver did you use for that via chipset any memories? |
| 01:45.48 | d0ugie | anybody? |
| 01:45.51 | resiak | !info unrar-nonfree sarge |
| 01:45.51 | pingouin_ | oh my god i hate computers |
| 01:45.53 | Solet-deb | hey... reason eight-thousand-five-hundred-fourty-seven to hate windows: http://soletscripts.com/spywarescreenshot.JPG |
| 01:45.57 | Gnea | somebody! |
| 01:46.08 | obsmav | is there a way to test for a device on a port "i.e. find out if your printer is plugged in to the paralell port ?" |
| 01:46.23 | Guerin | ethics: SND_VIA82XX |
| 01:46.48 | doub | obsmav: there's a pin on the parallel port for that purpose. but it's kernel space |
| 01:46.52 | plugwash | mmm it seems unrar-free was introduced too late to make it into sarge |
| 01:47.10 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: I hate you... ran it... froze for a second... then it sais "Segmentation fault" and now my mouse doesnt work. |
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| 01:47.19 | plugwash | doub never heared of ioperm? |
| 01:47.19 | pingouin_ | gonna add sid, to see what depend on... |
| 01:47.19 | Gnea | obsmav: the parport driver should detect it, look at dmesg |
| 01:47.21 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: :-\ |
| 01:47.23 | Guerin | Solet-deb: i doan geddit |
| 01:47.26 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: RTFM a bit. |
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| 01:47.28 | pingouin_ | if that not kill everything |
| 01:47.29 | obsmav | Gnea, hmm |
| 01:47.31 | d0ugie | i'll look up the .deb for unrar... |
| 01:47.38 | Guerin | yay |
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| 01:47.41 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: kk. You know how to get my mouse working? |
| 01:47.44 | doub | plugwash: someone named plugwash on #debian just told me about it. besides that, no |
| 01:47.48 | Solet-deb | Guerin: did you look at the number of hits adaware got? its at the bottom left of the window |
| 01:47.48 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: Restart X? |
| 01:47.53 | TwistedEmotions | grrrr. |
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| 01:48.07 | Guerin | morning classes at yeonmu girls middle school cancelled on account of a sports day |
| 01:48.18 | plugwash | doub ioperm lets userland apps running as root obtain direct access to the io map |
| 01:48.23 | resiak | Solet-deb: Looks like 1002 to me. |
| 01:48.38 | Solet-deb | 1022, but yeah... |
| 01:48.42 | Solet-deb | thats a lot of fucking spyware |
| 01:48.45 | Guerin | Solet-deb: heh. I have no idea what normal is. |
| 01:48.46 | resiak | Solet-deb: Pathetic. I've seen 17,000. |
| 01:49.01 | Solet-deb | resiak: thats the second time i ran it |
| 01:49.05 | resiak | Solet-deb: Believe me, that box was ... interesting. |
| 01:49.08 | Azar | Guerin it was so fucked up that it did not want to even take the snd_via82xx just to give you a minor example |
| 01:49.10 | Solet-deb | earlier it'd hit 10k and then reboot the machine |
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| 01:49.16 | d0ugie | unrar_2.71-1_i386.deb |
| 01:49.18 | doub | plugwash: ok thanks for the info |
| 01:49.19 | obsmav | Gnea, nope nada.. but i did not boot the system with the printer on |
| 01:49.26 | d0ugie | http://assambassador.com/unrar_2.71-1_i386.deb |
| 01:49.30 | d0ugie | there you go |
| 01:49.30 | Guerin | Azar: you almost certainly had oss modules loaded as well |
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| 01:49.40 | TwistedEmotions | Weeee... ;) Mouse works. |
| 01:49.49 | Azar | Guerin, no I checked modconf, none were picked |
| 01:49.51 | Gnea | obsmav: well this isn't windows so that's not even an issue - parport is a module, yes? |
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| 01:50.00 | Solet-deb | resiak: i wouldnt want to touch the keyboard of a machine that had 17 k of spyware on it... cause you know what sites they've been going to |
| 01:50.08 | Solet-deb | so you know whats on the keyboard |
| 01:50.10 | obsmav | parport ? |
| 01:50.18 | obsmav | Gnea, im using cups if that matters |
| 01:50.31 | doub | Solet-deb: fingerprints? |
| 01:50.32 | Guerin | Azar: sure, pal. Last I checked modconf couldn't provide a list of all the modules which are loaded. It only takes ONE, you know. |
| 01:50.36 | TwistedEmotions | Errr... ran it again same effect... I guess linux *isnt* like windows where you run the same program twice with different effects. |
| 01:50.50 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: RTFM? That's what I did. |
| 01:50.51 | obsmav | Gnea, parport_pc 31936 1 |
| 01:50.51 | obsmav | parport 37320 2 lp,parport_pc |
| 01:50.51 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: amazingly |
| 01:50.55 | Gnea | obsmav: it helps, but not really - parport is the actual kernel-level driver that bridges the interface from the printer port to cups |
| 01:51.01 | Azar | I checked every single directory and file for sound modules, no oss were listed |
| 01:51.15 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: Specifically, README.sound |
| 01:51.17 | Guerin | Azar: you could have just used lsmod. |
| 01:51.18 | d0ugie | plugwash: that whatchya looking for? |
| 01:51.26 | starscalling | ok |
| 01:51.29 | Gnea | obsmav: looks good, if you type dmesg do you get anything regarding parport and the printer when you turn the printer on? |
| 01:51.31 | starscalling | so i have debian in now |
| 01:51.36 | Gnea | obsmav: also, what kind of printer is it? |
| 01:51.38 | Azar | Guerin I used lsmod, and there were no oss listed |
| 01:51.42 | Guerin | the original quake2 was weak |
| 01:51.43 | starscalling | im thinking of taking my windows system and connecting to this one |
| 01:51.52 | obsmav | Gnea, lazer jet 4 hp (an ooold printer) |
| 01:51.52 | starscalling | and letting this one be internet connection for that one |
| 01:52.00 | Guerin | the boss at the end was so ridiculously easy to kill. |
| 01:52.02 | starscalling | got a usb cord to connect them together |
| 01:52.04 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: if I have learned one thing from windows... its NEVER to do what the filename sais to do... like "I'mNotAVirusRunME.EXE" |
| 01:52.04 | Azar | alsa-base 1.0.8 would refuse to load via82xx |
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| 01:52.07 | Gnea | obsmav: ooooh yeah, that's supported :) |
| 01:52.10 | starscalling | how would one go about doing that? |
| 01:52.15 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: just kidding. ;) |
| 01:52.34 | obsmav | parport0: FIFO is stuck |
| 01:52.34 | obsmav | parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio |
| 01:52.37 | Guerin | starscalling: get a fucking ethernet cable |
| 01:52.40 | obsmav | Gnea, i see drivers for it though :P |
| 01:52.49 | Gnea | obsmav: yeah but that's different |
| 01:52.57 | starscalling | guerin |
| 01:52.58 | obsmav | that is what i thought |
| 01:52.58 | Gnea | obsmav: ok do this - turn the printer off |
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| 01:53.03 | obsmav | ok |
| 01:53.10 | Guerin | starscalling: no, i don't want to hear it |
| 01:53.12 | starscalling | not doing that cause i need another nick card for that but i have the usb cable right here |
| 01:53.14 | Gnea | obsmav: then type: modprobe -r parport && modprobe -r parport_pc |
| 01:53.24 | Gnea | obsmav: lemme know if you get any errors from modprobe |
| 01:53.30 | obsmav | FATAL: Module parport is in use. |
| 01:53.43 | starscalling | would you recommend i just install freebsd ? |
| 01:53.44 | Gnea | hrm |
| 01:53.47 | starscalling | because at least they help |
| 01:53.48 | starscalling | -_- |
| 01:53.55 | Gnea | obsmav: /etc/init.d/cupsys stop then remove the modules |
| 01:54.04 | Guerin | starscalling: there's absolutely no reason why a computer shouldn't have ethernet in this day and age. You can get a pair of usable cards and a length of crossover cable for under $10 at practically any shop |
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| 01:54.08 | doub | starscalling: you can give it a try |
| 01:54.14 | nn | PS: eat bison. |
| 01:54.32 | obsmav | Gnea, same err |
| 01:54.36 | obsmav | and cups is off |
| 01:54.47 | j_k | flex is more tasty. |
| 01:54.48 | plugwash | gurin that is somewhat of an exaggeration |
| 01:54.55 | nn | j_k: :P |
| 01:55.02 | Gnea | obsmav: lsof | grep parport |
| 01:55.04 | kkp | anyone here installed CMU-NetReg before? |
| 01:55.13 | Gnea | obsmav: you might get a bunch of things, don't paste them all |
| 01:55.20 | Guerin | starscalling: it's possible to do networking over usb, but that's sort of like using a blowtorch to fry eggs |
| 01:55.24 | d0ugie | adsl-70-228-102-220.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net, 68-184-148-196.cpe.ga.charter.com, host217-43-99-169.range217-43.btcentralplus.com, 200-168-30-125.dsl.telesp.net.br: how about a Thank-you for finding the non-free unrar .deb and putting it on my server for yo' asses? |
| 01:55.33 | Guerin | lots of hassle, doesn't work too well |
| 01:56.01 | Guerin | d0ugie: ooh, you're such a hero. |
| 01:56.01 | obsmav | Gnea, lol nothing |
| 01:56.06 | starscalling | its only got to transfer files and provide just the most basic internet connection |
| 01:56.09 | d0ugie | word thanks |
| 01:56.09 | Guerin | !fuck sepen |
| 01:56.11 | Xenguy | keel heem |
| 01:56.13 | plugwash | gurin at least here in the uk your talking at least about £6 for a basic nic from an online supplier maybe you would get cheaper at a computer market but your not going to get two nics and a crossover cable for less than about £20 in any normal shop |
| 01:56.14 | mngrif | Guerin: blowtorches are quite good for grilled cheese sammiches too |
| 01:56.28 | pingouin_ | ok cool : http://debian.savoirfairelinux.net/debian/pool/non-free/u/unrar-nonfree/unrar_3.5.2-0.1_i386.deb then dpkg -i then unrar x blahblah |
| 01:56.30 | Guerin | d0ugie: you warezed the warezing t00l, ur 1337 |
| 01:56.31 | sepen | Guerin: sorry |
| 01:56.34 | Nielsen | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/u/unrar/ |
| 01:56.45 | Nielsen | how hard can it be |
| 01:57.08 | Guerin | mngrif: heh. I have a clever little clip-on valve-and nozzle which I use to burn things at home |
| 01:57.09 | d0ugie | hey i found it first, http://assambassador.com/unrar_2.71-1_i386.deb |
| 01:57.13 | pingouin_ | as a dick |
| 01:57.14 | Gnea | obsmav: ok try this - you're in X? |
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| 01:57.34 | Guerin | clips onto a propane or butane cannister and has pratically no safety measures |
| 01:57.37 | technos | plugwash: That's incredible to me.. I can pick up an ISA NIC for $2 US, and a PCI one for $3. So a pair of PCI cards and a $4 cable is about 1/4 of what it costs in the UK. |
| 01:57.52 | sepen | unrar is freeware but is rar which is not |
| 01:57.52 | obsmav | Gnea, yea |
| 01:57.52 | mngrif | Guerin: pen torches are where it's at |
| 01:58.02 | Gnea | !tell d0ugie about non-free |
| 01:58.06 | nn | yea |
| 01:58.06 | sepen | you can unrar for free |
| 01:58.12 | nn | pen-torches rawk |
| 01:58.16 | d0ugie | sheesh |
| 01:58.19 | doub | sepen: as in beer |
| 01:58.19 | Guerin | plugwash: give over. You can pull them out of rubbish tins. |
| 01:58.33 | Guerin | mngrif: heh, yeah. |
| 01:58.56 | d0ugie | ask and answered, just doing my part.. i'm not a rar fan, that's the last thing i am.. stop riding me |
| 01:59.00 | Guerin | plugwash: and I don't know what silly currency that was, because of my worthless korean character encoding, sorry. |
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| 01:59.07 | resiak | Guerin: GBP |
| 01:59.10 | Guerin | oh |
| 01:59.22 | resiak | Guerin: But in ISO stuffs. |
| 01:59.28 | resiak | Guerin: £ is the One True Way, of course. |
| 01:59.33 | Gnea | obsmav: ok give this a whirl, tail -f /var/log/kern.log in one terminal and then turn the printer on |
| 01:59.42 | sepen | d0ugie: i have installed unrar from sources http://phnet.linux.tucows.com/files/unrar-2.71.tar.gz |
| 01:59.46 | Guerin | yeah, don't make no difference. this terminal mungs everything to some stupid korean charset |
| 01:59.54 | resiak | Guerin: PuTTY/ |
| 02:00.03 | d0ugie | ok super but my url had a cool, shorter name |
| 02:00.04 | doub | sepen: just imagin for a second that the owners of unrar decide to sell it now, and thus prevent you from using (legally) unrar for free (as in beer), what would happen? |
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| 02:00.08 | Guerin | that utf-8 quid comes out as the korean syllable "jit" |
| 02:00.27 | resiak | Guerin: Can't you make PuTTY do encoding stuffs? |
| 02:00.35 | Guerin | resiak: for the zillionth time, putty doesn't work on korean win98 |
| 02:00.43 | doub | d0ugie: that's sooooo cooool. you're a damn 1337 man |
| 02:00.44 | resiak | Guerin: I've never heard you say that before. Sorry. |
| 02:00.51 | d0ugie | CHRIST |
| 02:00.56 | d0ugie | let's drop it |
| 02:00.56 | Guerin | i'm using cygwin rxvt, so I probably could mung something together, but i cba |
| 02:01.07 | Guerin | resiak: heh |
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| 02:01.18 | zesjut | hi |
| 02:01.19 | obsmav | Gnea, nothing |
| 02:01.19 | resiak | Guerin: Urgh. I pity you. |
| 02:01.23 | obsmav | just normal messages |
| 02:01.26 | Overand | cygwin rxvt is far superior to straight up cygwin |
| 02:01.31 | Gnea | obsmav: nothing regarding parport? |
| 02:01.42 | Guerin | resiak: don't pity me too much. I've had 1.5 days work cancelled today, on full pay. |
| 02:01.43 | zesjut | how can i start gnome after installing: apt-get install gnome? |
| 02:01.47 | Guerin | err |
| 02:01.51 | Guerin | this week, not today |
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| 02:01.59 | resiak | !faq zesjut |
| 02:02.00 | dpkg | zesjut: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 02:02.06 | doub | Overand: shouldn't it be rwvt then? |
| 02:02.12 | Overand | .heh. |
| 02:02.14 | obsmav | Gnea, nope... just that same message i got before |
| 02:02.22 | plugwash | does anyone know if the upstream for unrar-free has a website? |
| 02:02.23 | obsmav | May 26 18:58:45 obsmav kernel: parport0: FIFO is stuck |
| 02:02.23 | obsmav | May 26 18:58:45 obsmav kernel: parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio |
| 02:02.23 | zesjut | ty |
| 02:02.32 | plugwash | i culdn't find anything in the orig.tar.gz |
| 02:02.45 | Gnea | obsmav: odd, what kernel is that? |
| 02:02.47 | Guerin | plugwash: it'll be in /usr/share/doc/unrar/ if there is |
| 02:02.55 | doub | plugwash: look at the copyright file |
| 02:02.57 | Guerin | grep the dir for http:// |
| 02:03.03 | obsmav | 2.6.8-1-386 #1 Mon Sep 13 23:29:55 EDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 02:03.16 | Gnea | and that's sarge or sid? |
| 02:03.22 | obsmav | sarge |
| 02:03.34 | resiak | obsmav: Get 2.6.8-2-foo |
| 02:03.36 | doub | plugwash: or freshmeat |
| 02:03.52 | resiak | obsmav: (irrelevant to your current problem, probably, but do it.) |
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| 02:04.01 | Gnea | obsmav: try the kernel upgrade that resiak mentioned |
| 02:04.06 | TwistedEmotions | Wow... linux still sucks at gaming... |
| 02:04.08 | Gnea | that might be the answer |
| 02:04.14 | obsmav | ? |
| 02:04.17 | TwistedEmotions | they own everything else.. |
| 02:04.22 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: no. Games suck at linux. |
| 02:04.27 | TwistedEmotions | haha... |
| 02:04.32 | Gnea | obsmav: apt-get update && apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6.8 |
| 02:04.35 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: *shakes head* UT is better on Linux than on Windows. And audio sucks on Linux. |
| 02:04.38 | obsmav | u realy think of all the changes in 2.6-2 that is one of them |
| 02:04.38 | TwistedEmotions | that is true-er. |
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| 02:04.57 | resiak | obsmav: No, but you should upgrade it anyway |
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| 02:04.59 | obsmav | resiak, damn streght :P |
| 02:05.00 | Gnea | obsmav: difficult to tell right now |
| 02:05.11 | obsmav | resiak, i only hope there is a lunx version of ut07 |
| 02:05.13 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: Dude... UT is like 4 years old. That game was outdated as of 3-3/4 a year ago. |
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| 02:05.20 | craigevil | did the unstable repositories get changed? |
| 02:05.23 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: I don't mean the original. |
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| 02:05.34 | obsmav | he means ut 2004 |
| 02:05.44 | obsmav | Gnea, yea i know |
| 02:05.45 | starscalling | you know |
| 02:05.46 | TwistedEmotions | ohhh.. |
| 02:05.47 | TwistedEmotions | kk |
| 02:05.52 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: Doom3? Uplink? Darwinia? Quake3? |
| 02:05.52 | Gnea | :) |
| 02:05.55 | starscalling | the one great fucking thing about this irc network man |
| 02:05.59 | Guerin | craigevil: they change every day |
| 02:06.06 | starscalling | they name their servers after awesome authors |
| 02:06.07 | starscalling | ;) |
| 02:06.12 | Gnea | heh |
| 02:06.12 | obsmav | Gnea, latest kernel is alwasy the "right" thing to do... but i guess im out of options on my printer... i guess it's just too old or somthing |
| 02:06.15 | obsmav | must be a driver thing |
| 02:06.19 | Gnea | starscalling: that's right :) |
| 02:06.22 | bob2 | craigevil: they generally get changed each day |
| 02:06.24 | craigevil | not the packages the address. I can't connect |
| 02:06.25 | obsmav | cus acording to cups... there is comunication |
| 02:06.34 | starscalling | every server ive been on so far ive read extensively |
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| 02:06.35 | starscalling | XD |
| 02:06.36 | obsmav | i just keep getting an error saying that "the port is bussy" |
| 02:06.41 | Guerin | craigevil: change servers. Use apt-setup. |
| 02:06.43 | starscalling | niven is no exception |
| 02:06.43 | starscalling | XD |
| 02:06.48 | bob2 | craigevil: debian doesn't control the mirror network |
| 02:06.50 | craigevil | all the other repos in my sourcelist work just fine |
| 02:06.53 | Gnea | obsmav: hrm, i agree with that sentiment to a certain point - 'latest kernel' can mean something different to different people tho |
| 02:07.06 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: Every other game in the world.. ;P I use debian... and windows suck, but it's the better platform if you are a gamer. |
| 02:07.13 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: What other games do you play? |
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| 02:07.17 | Guerin | Gnea: omfg, 2.6.12-rc4!!1 |
| 02:07.22 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 02:07.32 | Gnea | yeah and it won't fscking work right on this system |
| 02:07.35 | Guerin | or is it up to rc5 now? |
| 02:07.35 | TwistedEmotions | Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory... |
| 02:07.42 | techlife | after running apt-get upgrade I am unable to run thunderbird. When executed it trys to open but it never does. And when I try to execute it from command line I get this: run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /usr/bin/mozilla-thunderbird-bin. Any ideas |
| 02:07.46 | Gnea | everything past 2.6.10 refuses to detect my soundcards |
| 02:07.48 | sepen | is the best plataform if the games are for this plataform |
| 02:07.58 | Gnea | might have to upgrade to sid soon |
| 02:07.59 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: I'm currently playing Monkey Island 2. I have Deus Ex waiting to be played, along with Worms Armageddon and Half-Life. Admittedly, all bar the first are via Cedega. |
| 02:07.59 | Guerin | Gnea: wouldn't recognise my pcmcia on my laptop... made oldconfig from a working kernel... |
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| 02:08.16 | Gnea | but then i'd probably get that problem with the printer not working with mozilla again.... |
| 02:08.27 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: HL1 or HL2? |
| 02:08.34 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: Hell, HL2 runs on vanilla Wine. |
| 02:08.34 | EvanCarroll | hahahah thats a bug in dpkg! |
| 02:08.38 | Guerin | techlife: look at the perms on that file |
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| 02:08.40 | EvanCarroll | watch when he rejoins! |
| 02:08.45 | EvanCarroll | ok |
| 02:08.48 | Gnea | Guerin: heh, well i used to run sid on here till i had to drop back to sarge to fix that issue |
| 02:08.51 | techlife | already checked it..looks fine |
| 02:08.52 | TwistedEmotions | HL2 is sexy. |
| 02:08.56 | EvanCarroll | and god say go away and come back, dpkg! |
| 02:09.05 | EvanCarroll | lol |
| 02:09.08 | Gnea | Guerin: so i was able to bring the kernel along with it, of course it's nothing 'official' but it works and is newer |
| 02:09.12 | Guerin | !tranquilise EvanCarroll |
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| 02:09.18 | john | dpkg isn't here? :( |
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| 02:09.26 | EvanCarroll | i'll stop |
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| 02:09.34 | Guerin | EvanCarroll: what are you doing? |
| 02:09.45 | Gnea | !helixsmite EvanCarroll |
| 02:09.50 | EvanCarroll | =[ |
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| 02:10.13 | craigevil | Failed to access the Debian archive ? |
| 02:10.13 | craigevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.13 | craigevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.13 | craigevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.13 | craigevil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:10.28 | TwistedEmotions | Why are people so dumb? |
| 02:10.29 | Gnea | heh |
| 02:10.44 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: it takes lots of dumb people to make other people look smart |
| 02:10.54 | Guerin | hah |
| 02:11.01 | Gnea | without smart people there would be no dumb people |
| 02:11.03 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: Good thinking... bring on the retards. |
| 02:11.16 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: bring on the retards? where the hell have you been? :) |
| 02:11.17 | Guerin | i was thinking something along the lines of "in the past being dumb would get you killed at a tender age. now it doesn't." |
| 02:11.35 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: playing Quake2 |
| 02:11.45 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: they still make that? |
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| 02:11.58 | TwistedEmotions | apt-get install quake2 |
| 02:11.59 | starscalling | ok |
| 02:12.01 | Gnea | lol |
| 02:12.07 | starscalling | so how do i make the usb work in debian? |
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| 02:12.18 | Guerin | starscalling: define 'work' |
| 02:12.22 | starscalling | i have the comps connected atm |
| 02:12.29 | TwistedEmotions | I didnt know.. just found out 20 minutes ago... played for 15... uninstalled 5 minutes ago. |
| 02:12.30 | starscalling | via usb cable |
| 02:12.33 | Gnea | starscalling: pet it and call it george |
| 02:12.36 | starscalling | did that |
| 02:12.37 | deadcat | starscalling: plug the motehr fucker in |
| 02:12.40 | starscalling | did that too |
| 02:12.56 | starscalling | neither seems to see the other atm i guess |
| 02:13.06 | starscalling | i dont get that usb device connected icon in windows |
| 02:13.10 | TwistedEmotions | starscalling: pluf the *mother fucker in... see if that helps. |
| 02:13.16 | deadcat | starscalling: use windows. |
| 02:13.19 | Guerin | starscalling: you ned to load a usb network module, and then probably configure the network |
| 02:13.23 | Gnea | starscalling: fuck windows |
| 02:13.32 | Guerin | i don't know what modules you need, since I use ETHERNET for my networks |
| 02:13.36 | starscalling | usb network module |
| 02:13.38 | Guerin | like a SANE person |
| 02:13.41 | starscalling | well |
| 02:13.45 | sepen | starscalling: windowz > /dev/null |
| 02:13.47 | Gnea | starscalling: lsusb <-- what does that return? |
| 02:13.50 | starscalling | you wanna buy me a ethernet cable + nick card? |
| 02:13.50 | useruseruser | can debian interface well with an ipod? |
| 02:13.55 | TwistedEmotions | starscalling: jump off a bridge.. see if others will follow. |
| 02:13.57 | resiak | !gtkpod |
| 02:14.01 | starscalling | they do TwistedEmotions |
| 02:14.09 | starscalling | bridge jumping is one of my passtimes |
| 02:14.14 | Gnea | useruseruser: i heard it does well |
| 02:14.21 | resiak | starscalling: You should have been here a while ago. |
| 02:14.22 | useruseruser | Gnea: cool |
| 02:14.38 | deadcat | useruseruser: you have a mini, or a shuffle? |
| 02:14.39 | starscalling | why is that resiak |
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| 02:14.48 | useruseruser | deadcat: nothing yet, thinking about buying |
| 02:14.55 | resiak | starscalling: Here as in where I physically am. People jumped off a bridge. |
| 02:15.00 | resiak | starscalling: Like 100 of the. |
| 02:15.02 | deadcat | useruseruser: ya. same here. but my ibook is usb1. )= |
| 02:15.03 | useruseruser | deadcat: but i only have a usb debian laptop, no windows or mac machines |
| 02:15.11 | starscalling | lol |
| 02:15.12 | starscalling | brb |
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| 02:15.21 | TwistedEmotions | useruseruser: dont buy that shit. No one really uses all 40 gigs... but a 1gig flash drive with a headset plugin for like 50$. |
| 02:15.21 | Gnea | resiak: according to the bungees? ;) |
| 02:15.32 | deadcat | useruseruser: as long as usb2 then its cool. usb1 will kill you |
| 02:15.33 | Guerin | don't fucking buy an ipod |
| 02:15.38 | resiak | Gnea: No. There were no bungees. |
| 02:15.40 | Guerin | christ, what a stupid idea |
| 02:15.41 | bob2 | buy an iaudio |
| 02:15.44 | useruseruser | deadcat: my laptop is usb1 too, but i have a usb2 pcmcia card (which crashes the kernel when i plug/unplug it, but hey...) |
| 02:15.47 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: agreed. |
| 02:15.51 | deadcat | useruseruser: ah (= |
| 02:15.52 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: have you seen the newer ipods? they're not quite 40gigs and more affordable |
| 02:15.54 | bob2 | usb-storage, baybe, plus flac and vorbis support |
| 02:16.02 | Gnea | ipod shuffle, i believe |
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| 02:16.12 | useruseruser | TwistedEmotions: worth considering, certainly |
| 02:16.19 | starscalling | where was i |
| 02:16.21 | useruseruser | TwistedEmotions: still very much undecided |
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| 02:16.23 | Gnea | bob2: i would LOVE something with vorbis support |
| 02:16.24 | TwistedEmotions | Errr.. : No. |
| 02:16.26 | starscalling | ok now im on my pos windows system |
| 02:16.30 | Raystorm | I'm have an old PC with 64MB RAM I want it to be a MySQL/Apache/PHP server, can debian do that? |
| 02:16.31 | Guerin | there's a bunch of them |
| 02:16.32 | starscalling | lets see if there are any drivers i missed |
| 02:16.34 | bob2 | Gnea: iaudio. |
| 02:16.35 | Guerin | i have a linky |
| 02:16.35 | deadcat | useruseruser: make sure they work on linux though. i know the shuffle works and so do the other ipods. |
| 02:16.38 | TwistedEmotions | starscalling: now go to #windows |
| 02:16.40 | Gnea | bob2: checking |
| 02:16.47 | starscalling | ipods work great as i hear |
| 02:16.50 | resiak | starscalling: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/4503027.stm |
| 02:16.54 | deadcat | starscalling: its down the hall. just make a left bro. |
| 02:17.06 | useruseruser | TwistedEmotions: but i can see 40gb being quite handy - don't ipods also function as portable hard drives? |
| 02:17.12 | EvanCarroll | Raystorm: it 'can', however should it, probably not |
| 02:17.38 | Guerin | bullshit |
| 02:17.41 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: its right you idiot. |
| 02:17.46 | Raystorm | It's not for a large project I would be the only person accessing it |
| 02:17.52 | Guerin | ipods enforce drm and only play shitty formats and are apple tardware |
| 02:17.55 | deadcat | bob2: my ibook displays 7:23 for my bat life. hehe. |
| 02:18.02 | Guerin | and they're overpriced to boot |
| 02:18.02 | resiak | Raystorm: Of cousre it can. |
| 02:18.07 | bob2 | Gnea: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16855603801 |
| 02:18.11 | TwistedEmotions | useruseruser: buy a portable hardrive its cheaper. |
| 02:18.16 | Guerin | and this is leaving out the fact that U2 endorse them |
| 02:18.18 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahaha. i know its down the hall |
| 02:18.25 | bob2 | Gnea: there's a long-life 20gb one with 30 hours of battery life (iirc) and a 40gb normal one, too |
| 02:18.25 | EvanCarroll | Raystorm: apt-get install mysql apache libapache-mod-php4 php4 |
| 02:18.46 | useruseruser | TwistedEmotions: what, a portable harddrive *and* a music player is cheaper? |
| 02:18.51 | Raystorm | I tried with fedora core 3, I don't know muchm but "out of the box" Fedora couldn't |
| 02:19.26 | deadcat | Raystorm: how is that a question |
| 02:19.35 | Raystorm | does apt actually get the dependencies too? |
| 02:19.42 | resiak | Raystorm: Of course. |
| 02:19.44 | TwistedEmotions | useruseruser: no... but a 1Gig flash drive w/headphone plugin like I told you to buy is. |
| 02:19.48 | deadcat | Raystorm: sure. |
| 02:20.19 | prodope | if i remove all mail-transport programs (exim, etc) what will happen with errors in programs that usually get sent to root? |
| 02:20.36 | deadcat | prodope: /dev/null |
| 02:20.37 | resiak | prodope: You must not do tat. |
| 02:20.49 | Raystorm | thank you all very much |
| 02:20.52 | bob2 | prodope: they will get uninstalled by apt |
| 02:20.52 | prodope | so i should keep exim on there, barebones? |
| 02:21.16 | EvanCarroll | prodope: no you should replace exim with courier-mta because it is configurable and doesn't suck. |
| 02:21.30 | EvanCarroll | =D |
| 02:21.37 | starscalling | bah |
| 02:21.43 | deadcat | EvanCarroll: thats just your experience |
| 02:21.47 | Guerin | prodope: exim in default config IS barebones |
| 02:21.47 | starscalling | even disconnecting and reconnecting does nothing |
| 02:21.47 | resiak | prodope: Exim doesn't suck. |
| 02:21.52 | resiak | !start an mta war |
| 02:21.53 | dpkg | sendmail owns |
| 02:21.58 | deadcat | starscalling: shutup |
| 02:22.00 | EvanCarroll | resiak: lol |
| 02:22.01 | Raystorm | PINE |
| 02:22.01 | Guerin | s/owns/is owned/ |
| 02:22.06 | MobyTurbo | prodope: if all you'll be using an MTA in a default configuration any MTA will do. |
| 02:22.08 | deadcat | !tell sepen about away |
| 02:22.10 | useruseruser | TwistedEmotions: thing is, i have well over a gig of stuff |
| 02:22.12 | resiak | Pine is not an mta. |
| 02:22.13 | Guerin | Raystorm: yeah, pine is a really goo mail server |
| 02:22.16 | EvanCarroll | !tell sepen about !es |
| 02:22.16 | MobyTurbo | s/default/local only/ |
| 02:22.19 | Raystorm | ooops |
| 02:22.20 | prodope | cool, thanks all |
| 02:22.43 | Raystorm | well I'm off before I emberass myself again |
| 02:23.02 | TwistedEmotions | useruseruser: and you need it on hand all the time? |
| 02:23.07 | sepen | thanks EvanCarroll |
| 02:23.16 | useruseruser | TwistedEmotions: i can pay a bit for convenience |
| 02:23.16 | Guerin | !fgi starscalling usb+networking+linux+howto |
| 02:23.17 | dpkg | starscalling: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=usb+networking+linux+howto |
| 02:23.33 | Guerin | starscalling: since you're too much of an eejit to use the right tools for the job... |
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| 02:24.00 | Gnea | bob2: oh man... that is sweet |
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| 02:24.11 | Guerin | Gnea: looking at buying one for me mum |
| 02:24.35 | Gnea | Guerin: yeah, they're clearly leading the pack |
| 02:24.36 | bob2 | I bought the iaudio g3, which is a little flash-based one |
| 02:24.44 | starscalling | guerin |
| 02:24.49 | Guerin | starscalling |
| 02:24.50 | bob2 | not sure how useful flac is in 1gb of flash, but otherwise I love it |
| 02:24.50 | Gnea | i'm thinking about a half gig or a gig |
| 02:24.54 | starscalling | i already said you could buy me the cable and card |
| 02:24.54 | ethics | starscalling: just started reading a page back....what are you trying to do with usb? |
| 02:24.59 | sepen | !tell pitillo about !es |
| 02:25.16 | starscalling | ive got a windows system |
| 02:25.20 | starscalling | and a linux system |
| 02:25.28 | Guerin | starscalling: and an enter key |
| 02:25.30 | starscalling | only one connection to the internet between them |
| 02:25.42 | starscalling | and im trying to use one to be a gate for the other |
| 02:25.50 | Guerin | !kill starscalling |
| 02:25.56 | starscalling | im using a USB cable because I have ONE |
| 02:25.59 | Guerin | !fgi starscalling usb+networking+linux+howto |
| 02:26.00 | dpkg | starscalling: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=usb+networking+linux+howto |
| 02:26.00 | ethics | starscalling, yah so do i...its great isnt it..you just sit on debian waiting for that moment where you actually need to turn the windows box on |
| 02:26.04 | Guerin | now fuck off |
| 02:26.06 | starscalling | YEAH YEAH YEAH |
| 02:26.08 | deadcat | starscalling: maybe your shit just dont work. |
| 02:26.20 | starscalling | well |
| 02:26.23 | ethics | starscalling using just a USB cable? |
| 02:26.24 | Guerin | and good luck getting usb networkign running on windows |
| 02:26.25 | Gnea | Guerin: i picked up a half gig generic mp3 player off of ebay for about $30 recently. it performs quite well, but only does mp3 and wma. on the plus side i can plug it into my system running sarge and discover finds it right off the bat |
| 02:26.40 | starscalling | i prefer irc/skype/ripping movies in windows |
| 02:26.44 | resiak | Gnea: The iRiver ones do that. |
| 02:26.47 | starscalling | everything else can be debian |
| 02:26.51 | ethics | starscalling, um thats sorta impossible atm.. |
| 02:26.53 | resiak | starscalling: You're on crack, but okay. |
| 02:26.56 | starscalling | but yeah just a usb cable to usb |
| 02:26.59 | Guerin | Gnea: nice. I have an old mp3cd player of about 2001 vintage which still works for me when i'm away from my boxen |
| 02:27.01 | resiak | ethics: No, it's not. |
| 02:27.05 | starscalling | why i sit impossible |
| 02:27.07 | starscalling | *is it |
| 02:27.15 | deadcat | starscalling: if you do all those on windows. why the hell you even need linux |
| 02:27.22 | Guerin | i think you need a special dongle gadget to get eth over usb working |
| 02:27.23 | starscalling | fileserver |
| 02:27.29 | Gnea | Guerin: i never quite got into those, they suffer the same issues that regular cdplayers do - skipping |
| 02:27.34 | deadcat | starscalling: windows can do that too |
| 02:27.52 | starscalling | not nearly as good |
| 02:27.53 | Guerin | Gnea: mine isn't too bad. I don't go running a lot, works fine in car or on bike |
| 02:27.56 | Guerin | even offroad |
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| 02:28.15 | starscalling | i run azureus for 200GB+ torrents at once and windows is useless for anything else |
| 02:28.22 | starscalling | and its got shitty uptime to boot |
| 02:28.23 | tvn | Is it possible to have a machine with a single processor to simulate a machine with multiple processors ? So I can run parallel code on it |
| 02:28.26 | ethics | starscalling, usb can be used to transfer files as in copy them on windows..but i dont beleive you can get a usbcable to be an ethernet on windows.... |
| 02:28.30 | starscalling | 3 months was my best about |
| 02:28.39 | starscalling | i dont need it to be ethernet |
| 02:28.46 | Guerin | YES YOU DO |
| 02:28.50 | Guerin | you don't think you do |
| 02:28.51 | Guerin | but you do |
| 02:28.52 | starscalling | just to carry a connection to the internet through the debian system |
| 02:29.01 | Guerin | that's what ETHERNET does |
| 02:29.06 | Guerin | you fucking imbecile |
| 02:29.10 | starscalling | usb hubs work |
| 02:29.12 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 02:29.15 | starscalling | whats the big deal |
| 02:29.16 | Solet-deb | has anyone in here ever used the gnome livecd? |
| 02:29.21 | Gnea | oh wow. |
| 02:29.36 | starscalling | -_- |
| 02:29.42 | deadcat | ops. kick him.. feel free to take me out with him. i dont mind taking one for the team |
| 02:29.45 | starscalling | thats quite informative |
| 02:29.56 | Guerin | starscalling: the big deal is that you've already had several good answers, and you persist in whining about how you don't want to, and not knowing what the fuck you're talking about, and generally being a twat |
| 02:30.00 | Guerin | now fuck off and google |
| 02:30.05 | starscalling | god dam it |
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| 02:30.41 | Solet-deb | deadcat: talking about me? |
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| 02:31.28 | Guerin | Solet-deb: it's pretty offensive, but not as bad as starscalling |
| 02:31.38 | deadcat | Solet-deb: no. that starscalling moron |
| 02:31.43 | Solet-deb | guerin: lol ok |
| 02:32.17 | useruseruser | bob2: ooh, it does ogg? |
| 02:32.21 | bob2 | useruseruser: vorbis and flac, yes |
| 02:32.21 | ethics | starscalling, starscalling when you say usb hub you do realise that usb hus are nothing to do with networking ya? as in it just makes more usbports and more power supplied? |
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| 02:33.49 | Azar | hi karsten :) |
| 02:33.59 | useruseruser | bob2: cool. and do you just use cp to get stuff onto it? |
| 02:34.07 | ethics | starscalling, what you see whrn you see usb-usb datacables for transfering files is a USB version of a laplink cable ... |
| 02:34.33 | bob2 | useruseruser: yes |
| 02:34.39 | bob2 | useruseruser: or rsync ;) |
| 02:34.44 | useruseruser | bob2: lovely |
| 02:35.11 | bob2 | gnome-volume-manager mounts it as /media/IAUDIO/ when you plug it in, even |
| 02:35.28 | ethics | resiak, you said it wasnt impossible....what do i not know about?? |
| 02:35.48 | resiak | ethics: Oh, hang on, I'm thinking about ethernet-over-1394. Ignore me. |
| 02:35.53 | starscalling | i meant usb routers but bah |
| 02:36.04 | starscalling | i LOOKED at the google links and they suck |
| 02:36.11 | Guerin | there ARE things you can use to make a usb cable do ethernet |
| 02:36.14 | starscalling | seems to want a usb cord with something in the middle |
| 02:36.21 | Guerin | but it requires buying as gadget |
| 02:36.25 | Guerin | yeah |
| 02:36.34 | starscalling | dont have one |
| 02:36.42 | starscalling | only have regular usb cable |
| 02:36.43 | starscalling | but! |
| 02:36.55 | starscalling | i can connect the usb from one to ethernet to the other if that helps |
| 02:36.57 | resiak | !tell starscalling -about enter |
| 02:36.58 | starscalling | got an adaptor |
| 02:37.06 | Guerin | starscalling: while you're at the shop getting one you can pick up a couple of rlt8139s and 5 metres of crossover cat5 |
| 02:37.18 | starscalling | -_- |
| 02:37.21 | starscalling | NO MONEY |
| 02:37.25 | resiak | !fgi starscalling ethernet over usb howto |
| 02:37.26 | dpkg | starscalling: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=ethernet over usb howto |
| 02:37.28 | starscalling | god dam it |
| 02:37.29 | Guerin | starscalling: you're fucked, then. |
| 02:37.30 | starscalling | been there |
| 02:37.32 | starscalling | done that |
| 02:37.37 | resiak | !tell starscalling -about enter |
| 02:37.43 | plugwash | starscalling whilst you can buy A-A cables they don't really have any perpose |
| 02:37.47 | starscalling | !tell resiak about fuck off |
| 02:38.07 | plugwash | usb was NOT designed for host-host communication |
| 02:38.12 | starscalling | A-A cables? |
| 02:38.15 | starscalling | what are those |
| 02:38.28 | starscalling | yall are right |
| 02:38.29 | plugwash | can;es with a usb A plug in both ends |
| 02:38.33 | starscalling | i should just run windows |
| 02:38.40 | plugwash | ie what i presume you are trying to use |
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| 02:38.46 | Guerin | yeah, because WINDOWS would solve this problem |
| 02:38.48 | starscalling | yeah |
| 02:39.04 | starscalling | cable with 2 usb connections and thats all |
| 02:39.08 | useruser | so... where do canadians find electronics online? :S |
| 02:39.10 | starscalling | or usb to ethernet cable |
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| 02:39.35 | starscalling | but only one connection to internet between them |
| 02:39.37 | Guerin | useruser: they have the intarwebs in canadia? |
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| 02:39.48 | resiak | Guerin: It is the Global Intarweb, after all. |
| 02:39.52 | plugwash | starscalling what do you mean by a usb-ethernet cable |
| 02:39.55 | plugwash | just a cable?! |
| 02:39.57 | useruser | Guerin: not many of the bloody things it appears |
| 02:40.00 | Guerin | starscalling: i have one internet connection. I have three computers. |
| 02:40.12 | starscalling | and you use a router right?> |
| 02:40.13 | plugwash | (it amazes me what shit some places will sell) |
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| 02:40.20 | starscalling | not usb cables right? |
| 02:40.21 | Guerin | starscalling: my school has one internet connection. It has 140 computers |
| 02:40.28 | Guerin | this all works by ETHERNET |
| 02:40.29 | TwistedEmotions | How do I find out how much of the CPU load processes are using? |
| 02:40.33 | starscalling | ive got one connection and 7 comps on atm |
| 02:40.41 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: top, or ps |
| 02:40.45 | starscalling | and only one ethernet cable to this room |
| 02:40.48 | starscalling | no hubs |
| 02:40.53 | starscalling | wait |
| 02:40.59 | starscalling | if i had a usb hub |
| 02:41.02 | starscalling | would that help? |
| 02:41.06 | Guerin | NO |
| 02:41.09 | starscalling | dam |
| 02:41.11 | TwistedEmotions | I mean ps -el what extra option do I need to see how much they each are using? |
| 02:41.12 | bob2 | starscalling: please stop |
| 02:41.13 | Guerin | USB is not ethernet |
| 02:41.13 | plugwash | Guerin thats nothing /me looks at his university |
| 02:41.17 | bob2 | TwistedEmotions: top |
| 02:41.22 | Guerin | plugwash: oh yeah :) |
| 02:41.28 | starscalling | what is it about usb that doesnt like the internet :/ |
| 02:41.35 | Supaplex | buy a real pci nic ffs |
| 02:41.44 | starscalling | dam it |
| 02:41.44 | resiak | starscalling: USB was not designed for host-host. Do you have firewire in these boxen? |
| 02:41.49 | starscalling | i dont have the CASH |
| 02:41.51 | plugwash | gurin mind you i think they have several conenctions but i think only one normally carries traffic to the internet |
| 02:41.55 | starscalling | nope none of that |
| 02:41.59 | starscalling | no firewire |
| 02:42.01 | starscalling | :/ |
| 02:42.08 | resiak | starscalling: That's a bugger. Firewire can do this easil. |
| 02:42.16 | starscalling | ive even got more cat5 cable |
| 02:42.21 | starscalling | just no extra nic cards |
| 02:42.29 | resiak | starscalling: And they are about $5 |
| 02:42.39 | starscalling | nic cards here are about 15 |
| 02:42.51 | liable | starscalling: take one out of one of the others comps |
| 02:42.54 | starscalling | and im broke |
| 02:43.01 | starscalling | i really need more than just that |
| 02:43.05 | plugwash | resiak where the hell do you get nics that cheap?! |
| 02:43.08 | starscalling | i just bought 2 comps this week |
| 02:43.29 | resiak | plugwash: I could pick one up for 5GBP at _any_ computer sale. |
| 02:43.32 | starscalling | almost got a laptop too |
| 02:43.33 | Supaplex | beg money, get a job, sell your crap, borrow from grandma, reuse that old computer, get someone elses old computer |
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| 02:43.44 | liable | and stfu |
| 02:43.46 | resiak | plugwash: Not a shop. A boot sale. |
| 02:44.10 | starscalling | why is everything so hard liek this |
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| 02:44.22 | plugwash | resiak 1: £5 is a lot more than $5 2: the main conversation was about shops |
| 02:44.22 | starscalling | i dont understand WHY usb is different from ethernet |
| 02:44.23 | useruser | man, canada sucks. no iaudio over here :( |
| 02:44.38 | starscalling | why wont it work easy |
| 02:44.42 | resiak | plugwash: Right, but the number prices of things stay about the same. |
| 02:44.45 | resiak | starscalling: Read the spec? |
| 02:44.47 | Supaplex | you've got better chances of using null modem serial cables to setup ppp/slip connections then using usb. |
| 02:44.50 | starscalling | tried to resiak |
| 02:44.55 | starscalling | seems mostly greek to me |
| 02:44.57 | starscalling | dude |
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| 02:45.06 | starscalling | im willing to connect them via dialup modems even |
| 02:45.08 | plugwash | resiak people were implying you could get 2 nics and a crossover cable for $10 from normal computer shops that seems like bs to me |
| 02:45.12 | TbbW | is there any way to set up a local apt source? |
| 02:45.13 | starscalling | have one of those in each as well also |
| 02:45.17 | resiak | plugwash: I don't know about that. |
| 02:45.30 | resiak | starscalling: Go to a computer sale. Whereabouts are you in teh world? |
| 02:45.35 | starscalling | calli |
| 02:45.41 | starscalling | los angeles |
| 02:45.49 | starscalling | i dont have cash for a while |
| 02:45.52 | Supaplex | I bought a boxfull of realtek 8139 C+ cards for $4 ea. they work fine for workstation use. |
| 02:45.59 | starscalling | i want to do now |
| 02:46.01 | starscalling | this sux |
| 02:46.03 | resiak | starscalling: You bought two computers, and don't have LITERALLY $5? |
| 02:46.07 | starscalling | yes |
| 02:46.11 | starscalling | LITERALLY |
| 02:46.20 | starscalling | its in the gas tank so i can get to work >.< |
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| 02:46.31 | Supaplex | heh payday loan ;) |
| 02:46.40 | starscalling | heh no bank account to get that |
| 02:46.41 | starscalling | XD |
| 02:46.49 | starscalling | believe me |
| 02:46.51 | starscalling | i TRIED |
| 02:46.54 | resiak | !tell starscalling -about enter |
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| 02:47.17 | Azar | :) |
| 02:47.27 | Supaplex | well damn, you're no help. and I suppose you don't have a fscking marker and cardboard to panhandle either. >:-| |
| 02:47.32 | starscalling | so ive heard one yes it can be done and lots of noes, would the one person who thinks it could be done PLEASE help me :/ |
| 02:48.05 | Supaplex | I've seen ip over laplink, but certianly not usb. |
| 02:48.19 | Supaplex | eg, ppp over lpt hackadelic cord. |
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| 02:48.47 | Supaplex | sell your usb amennities for something reliable :) |
| 02:49.00 | starscalling | what if the usb goes router >> nic card in comp1 then usb >> comp2 ethernet |
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| 02:49.21 | cunumen | Would anyone know why I might be getting beeping and screen junk when i try to make a tar archive? |
| 02:49.29 | starscalling | i have an adaptor to change usb to ethernet ^^ |
| 02:49.31 | resiak | cunumen: How are you trying to make it? |
| 02:49.39 | resiak | starscalling: THEN READ ITS MANUAL AND SEARCH THE WEB |
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| 02:49.46 | cunumen | tar -c directoryname |
| 02:49.49 | starscalling | there is no manual |
| 02:49.55 | starscalling | and i didnt just cum here |
| 02:49.58 | resiak | starscalling: Ask the guy you bought it from? |
| 02:49.58 | mindframe | i think a server of mine has been compromised. would anyone be willing to help me find the source in pm? |
| 02:50.05 | starscalling | i searched my arse off, and found shit |
| 02:50.17 | MobyTurbo | starscalling: there is a manual, "man tar" |
| 02:50.21 | starscalling | why do you think im hanging out in this room getting my arse talked at like this |
| 02:50.25 | resiak | MobyTurbo: That was cunumen. |
| 02:50.33 | starscalling | lol MobyTurbo |
| 02:50.37 | resiak | starscalling: Google on the MODEL NUMBER? |
| 02:50.38 | MobyTurbo | oops |
| 02:50.46 | MobyTurbo | !lol |
| 02:50.46 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a LOLer. |
| 02:50.49 | MobyTurbo | so there. |
| 02:50.59 | starscalling | its GENERAL CABLE no modle numbers nothing like that |
| 02:51.17 | resiak | *plonk* |
| 02:51.26 | cunumen | just wondering, because I can do it using frontends like konqueror, but not with the console |
| 02:51.42 | resiak | cunumen: man tar |
| 02:51.51 | Supaplex | starscalling: what's syslog say when you plug it in? do you have hotplug running? |
| 02:51.56 | resiak | cunumen: Specifically the -f option |
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| 02:53.15 | MobyTurbo | starscalling: at least it's not a Colonel cable, those cause Colonel panics. |
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| 02:53.44 | Supaplex | was that a knee slapper? did I miss it yet? |
| 02:53.47 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 02:53.59 | Myren | samba is starting to go veyr weird on me, at least i think its samba. |
| 02:54.03 | MobyTurbo | he said "general cable", I couldn't resist. |
| 02:54.17 | Supaplex | ahh |
| 02:54.18 | Myren | if i try accessing a number of files, it'll stall out sometimes. |
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| 02:54.44 | Supaplex | Myren: what's the client? |
| 02:54.46 | MobyTurbo | there is no such thing as either a general or colonel cables |
| 02:54.53 | Myren | Supaplex: windows XP sp2 |
| 02:55.07 | Myren | my mp3's keep skipping, |
| 02:55.07 | Supaplex | Myren: any specific files types? |
| 02:55.25 | starscalling | Supaplex, i tried using the usb to ethernet adaptor and windows saw it and didnt recognize my other comp. what is this hotplug thing |
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| 02:55.31 | Myren | right now dreamweaver is falling all over itself failing and mp3's are skipping like crazy |
| 02:55.35 | starscalling | oh yeah i think so on the linux side let me see here |
| 02:55.45 | Supaplex | starscalling: apt-cache show hotplug |
| 02:55.53 | Myren | it never used to do this... i tried /etc/init.d/samba restart |
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| 02:56.07 | TickLinux | does anyone know what are the config file for ethernet adapter? |
| 02:56.11 | mindframe | i think a server of mine has been compromised. would anyone be willing to help me find the source in pm? |
| 02:56.22 | sparr_ | are there any non-mounting SMB file browsing/downloading applications for linux? |
| 02:56.37 | Myren | smbclient |
| 02:56.46 | sparr_ | Myren: gui? |
| 02:56.49 | Supaplex | TickLinux: are you thinking about interfaces(5) ? |
| 02:56.55 | Myren | TickLinux: /etc/networking/interfaces |
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| 02:57.22 | Supaplex | Myren: so what's changed since it was working? |
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| 02:57.49 | TickLinux | all the interface would be in that file? |
| 02:58.00 | Myren | sparr_: apt-cache search smb : tksmb, smb4k, komba2, jags, |
| 02:58.08 | Myren | sparr_: i'd rock smb4k first |
| 02:58.09 | Supaplex | TickLinux: what's the man page say? :) man 5 interfaces |
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| 02:58.56 | TickLinux | cool...this is awesome...learning new things everyday...i like it even better when people are around to help :D |
| 02:58.56 | Myren | Supaplex: blarg, i wish i had any idea. |
| 02:59.09 | Myren | Supaplex: its sooo bogus, these stallouts just get worse and worse |
| 02:59.34 | starscalling | ok yeah hotplug is in. |
| 02:59.35 | Myren | Supaplex: i've stopped all access, just cliking the mounted drive in windows explorer can cause extreme system stalling |
| 02:59.37 | plugwash | sparr it wouldn't surprise me if konqueror can do it |
| 02:59.43 | Supaplex | Myren: how long has this issue been vexing you? |
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| 03:00.01 | Myren | Supaplex: started about a week ago, i thought i just needed to reboot windows. :/ |
| 03:00.02 | plugwash | sparr_ also i think on the gnome side anything that uses gnome-vfs can |
| 03:00.12 | TickLinux | for a newbie who want to do some major den in the brian cell, what so i do with my linux..something fun.. (SUGGESTION)? |
| 03:00.17 | Supaplex | starscalling: does syslog tell you anything usefull when you cycle the cable? (be gentle and patient) |
| 03:00.47 | TickLinux | sorry about my english...typing very fast.. |
| 03:00.49 | Myren | huh, its only one of the mount points. maybe my HD system is going crappy on me. |
| 03:00.58 | starscalling | how do i find syslog ? |
| 03:00.59 | Supaplex | Myren: you run your normal spyware and virus scans? maybe a system restore is in order? |
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| 03:01.13 | Supaplex | starscalling: /var/log/ |
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| 03:01.17 | starscalling | cd |
| 03:01.23 | Myren | oh shit, its linux. |
| 03:01.26 | Myren | its my fs |
| 03:01.28 | Myren | fffuuuccckkkk |
| 03:01.45 | Supaplex | [ in stereo ] where available |
| 03:02.02 | Myren | that is NO GOOD, crapola. |
| 03:02.27 | liable | mindframe: run chkrootkit |
| 03:02.34 | Solet-deb | linux has system restore? wtf? |
| 03:02.37 | mindframe | liable: i did. what can i tell from that info> |
| 03:03.06 | mindframe | liable: can i paste part of the output to you? 2 lines. |
| 03:03.09 | Supaplex | Solet-deb: yea, and spyware and viruses. read what our conversation a little closer. |
| 03:03.10 | TickLinux | what is debian command thats same as chkconfig or ntsysv from redhat? |
| 03:03.28 | liable | mindframe: well, does it say there is a rootkit unstalled, any suspicious files? check for false positives on google |
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| 03:04.01 | Solet-deb | sry havnt been following |
| 03:04.06 | liable | mindframe: if only two lines put them here |
| 03:04.26 | starscalling | nope |
| 03:04.33 | mindframe | Checking `sniffer'... lo: not promisc and no packet sniffer sockets |
| 03:04.33 | mindframe | eth1: not promisc and no packet sniffer sockets |
| 03:04.46 | starscalling | it doesnt even add a line that anything happened: used sudo cat syslog |
| 03:04.59 | Supaplex | starscalling: lsusb ? |
| 03:05.10 | mindframe | liable: also, Checking `z2'... user thechamp deleted or never loged from lastlog! - i disabled this users shell |
| 03:05.24 | starscalling | cd |
| 03:05.34 | starscalling | er |
| 03:05.48 | starscalling | huh? what do you mean now? i dont see any lsusb files in there |
| 03:05.55 | resiak | starscalling: Run it |
| 03:06.15 | liable | mindframe: oh, you had a user that you never put in there? |
| 03:06.17 | starscalling | lists 4 bus devices: |
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| 03:06.26 | resiak | Here we go. |
| 03:06.32 | starscalling | bus 004 device 001: 0000:0000 all look the same |
| 03:06.40 | starscalling | just bus 004 -- 001 |
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| 03:07.30 | mindframe | liable: no. i set his shell has nobash weeks ago |
| 03:07.36 | starscalling | oh wait a second |
| 03:07.37 | liable | mindframe: check roots bash_history and your logs |
| 03:07.54 | starscalling | i put the usb in teh windows system and usb>ethernet end in the linux system. |
| 03:08.05 | liable | mindframe: what makes you think its been compromised? |
| 03:08.11 | starscalling | should i look somewhere else to check the ethernet instead>? |
| 03:08.20 | Supaplex | starscalling: soooo do you reall need a cross over ethernet cable, or what? |
| 03:08.30 | Supaplex | reall/really/ |
| 03:08.55 | starscalling | sooooooo i would love to use my cat5 cable + a new nic card but i dont have the cash |
| 03:09.04 | starscalling | so im trying to get this thing going this way :/ |
| 03:09.13 | starscalling | but i know SHIT |
| 03:09.21 | deadcat | starscalling: at least you know SHIT |
| 03:09.45 | resiak | deadcat: You use Openbox, right? |
| 03:09.51 | Supaplex | saves you from eatting it. :-X |
| 03:10.14 | deadcat | resiak: yes sir. |
| 03:10.19 | Myren | $#@#$ kernel |
| 03:10.36 | sparr_ | I want to show off linux gaming to some windows-centric friends. What would you suggest? Free is good, graphically intense as well (I know that nethack rocks, but its not that impressive to look at) |
| 03:10.46 | starscalling | i wonder if any of this is possible in windows :/ |
| 03:10.55 | deadcat | starscalling: yes |
| 03:11.16 | resiak | sparr_: Must it be DFSG Free? |
| 03:11.52 | Myren | how do i remount my / drive? |
| 03:11.55 | Myren | its fscking up |
| 03:12.06 | Myren | i cant reboot, not now |
| 03:12.16 | Supaplex | mount -o remount /what |
| 03:12.17 | Myren | but my / drive is going non-responsive |
| 03:12.20 | useruser | sparr_: buy a ps/2 and put linux on it |
| 03:12.44 | Supaplex | useruser: yea, if you can get a copy of linux for it. ;/ |
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| 03:12.53 | mindframe | liable: last doesnt really tell me much. 'thechamp' logged in may 10. the user 'sw' whose files were hte ones modified last logged in on the 22nd. his home dir was 700 so no outside user besides root could have modified. i was thinking sw had his login info jeopardized so i just set him to nobash as well |
| 03:12.57 | resiak | Supaplex: Exists. |
| 03:13.04 | resiak | deadcat: I'm agitated by the positioning and focusing of new windows. I have point-to-focus turned on, like all good-natured people, but either I set new windows to be created under the mouse (in which case they are focused and my root password goes into a Gaim window ;-)) or I turn that off and have no idea where they will be created, and still they sometimes steal focus. |
| 03:13.05 | useruser | Supaplex: http://playstation2-linux.com/ |
| 03:13.14 | sparr_ | resiak: no, but if i can get some 'oohs' and 'aahs' out of being able to apt-get it then thats a plus :) |
| 03:13.28 | resiak | sparr_: You can apt-get install quake2's shareware stuffs. |
| 03:13.29 | Supaplex | let's hope it's lynx friendly. |
| 03:13.30 | Myren | crap, why is SMART telling me this drive is ok. even ls takes 10 seconds to reply. |
| 03:13.49 | resiak | sparr_: Also google on Enemy Territory. Fun, Doom3-based, free (but not Free). |
| 03:13.52 | Myren | bust a nine in their ass? |
| 03:13.56 | sparr_ | resiak: yeah, ive got et. |
| 03:13.57 | Supaplex | Myren: because smart is dumb |
| 03:13.57 | deadcat | resiak: hehe. i disabled that stupid follow the mouse shit. good point about the root passwd |
| 03:14.02 | deadcat | resiak: obconf? |
| 03:14.07 | sparr_ | quake2, not exactly impressive :) |
| 03:14.17 | Myren | resiak: Enemy Territory was based on Return to CAstle Wolfenstein, a distinctly Q3 game. |
| 03:14.27 | deadcat | resiak: obconf under behavior |
| 03:14.29 | Myren | Supaplex: why would ls take 10 seconds to reply? |
| 03:14.37 | resiak | deadcat: I've just enumerated all the options in there :-) |
| 03:14.37 | Myren | god damned this fucking fiber channel |
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| 03:14.50 | deadcat | resiak: hmm. restart the mofo? |
| 03:14.51 | resiak | Myren: You're right. It's et2 that's doom3 stuffs. |
| 03:15.07 | resiak | deadcat: No, the settings are working as advertise, but it sucks :-) |
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| 03:15.18 | resiak | deadcat: Never mind, if you don't use p-t-f. I'm not turning that off, so. |
| 03:15.26 | Myren | i didnt know there was a et2 |
| 03:15.34 | deadcat | resiak: oh. heheh. ya. i find some settings in ob3 do suck. but its better than flux in some ways. |
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| 03:16.00 | resiak | deadcat: I'm toying with switching to fvwm, you see, because they have stuff that puts new windows as far from stuff that you're using as possible. |
| 03:16.33 | deadcat | resiak: ya. but the fvwm config files look crazy to me heheh. |
| 03:17.09 | resiak | deadcat: Yeah, exactly, so I don't want to switch. |
| 03:17.43 | Supaplex | useruser: is there an iso or something? I already have the bb adapter, and could eaisly install a hdd. I already spent plenty of $$$ on the ps2, I'm not paying $$$ for something that should be free in the first place. |
| 03:18.02 | useruser | Supaplex: no idea |
| 03:18.03 | resiak | Supaplex: No, it's not free. |
| 03:18.24 | resiak | Supaplex: They no longer make them. Google/eBay might turn up second-hand ones. |
| 03:18.50 | Supaplex | I guess sony is special *shrug* |
| 03:18.53 | resiak | Supaplex: They're valuable, since that CD is the only way (AIUI) that you can boot a PS/2 from something other than its built-in stuffs. |
| 03:19.26 | resiak | Supaplex: (Since it Just Won't Read(TM) CD-Rs.) |
| 03:19.31 | resiak | Supaplex: s/CD/DVD/ |
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| 03:21.51 | Myren | thats realyl fucking wierd; |
| 03:21.57 | Myren | its just one of my ~ directories thats stalling |
| 03:22.09 | deadcat | i am wondering how google's main page do the focus thing. i have their sf() in my page but it doesnt focus when i laod it. |
| 03:22.13 | Myren | i can go around the fs fine, but this one directory, if i ls, it takes like 60 seconds to come back to me |
| 03:22.35 | Myren | unfortunately that ~ is on my / drive. ffsssccckkk. |
| 03:23.00 | Supaplex | Myren: any kernel messages about the filesystem? |
| 03:23.10 | Myren | i've been trolling /var/log, but i cant find anything |
| 03:23.23 | Supaplex | humph |
| 03:23.29 | deadcat | example: http://sshonly.sytes.net/a.php source http://sshonly.sytes.net/a.phps |
| 03:23.51 | Myren | yeah, its major bunk. |
| 03:25.10 | Myren | the only thing i'm getting is a timeout err message from smb |
| 03:25.14 | Supaplex | deadcat: erm, from memory, window.onload = dofocus(); function dofocus() { l=getObjectById('focusMe'); l.focus(); } - caveat emptor (my js is rusty w/o testing it) |
| 03:25.34 | Supaplex | er getElementById I think... |
| 03:25.45 | deadcat | damn. |
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| 03:35.27 | liable | hmm, is 600 a good fps for glxgears? |
| 03:35.50 | Supaplex | for no hw accel yea |
| 03:35.51 | bucky | no |
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| 03:37.43 | nomed^ | do you have a good link that explain how udev + hotplug works ... and also something about kudzu ? |
| 03:38.08 | nomed^ | i can't find anything ... clear |
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| 03:38.47 | Supaplex | kudzu? that reeks of redhat |
| 03:39.08 | Supaplex | oh, that's why. heh |
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| 03:39.49 | Supaplex | nm my remarks. I'm paying attention to this nvidia howto. (round .. 5?) |
| 03:39.53 | Cyis | anyone run Heimdal KDC and have to deal IP renumbering? I moved my network provider and had to renumber and now Kerberos isn't authenticating |
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| 03:40.06 | nomed^ | Supaplex, yes ... but it could be nice to understand how autoconfig script that cames with knoppix works .. |
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| 03:40.17 | dad | cysnope - still have this crappy metacity wm... |
| 03:40.28 | dad | grrr |
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| 03:40.37 | jeffe44 | so can anyone help me install java...i have read the dpkg and i still cant hack it. i have added contrib to my sources |
| 03:40.40 | nomed^ | knoppix is debian based ... i would obtain something like that but that uses udev + hotplug and not kudzu |
| 03:41.03 | nomed^ | just to fugure out if it's possible .. |
| 03:41.15 | dad | cyis: no error message, just not running sawfish :( |
| 03:41.22 | ethics | Supaplex, playstation linux is freeish. |
| 03:42.25 | nomed^ | jeffe44, maybe man make-jpkg |
| 03:42.31 | jeffe44 | can you get linux on a playstation one? |
| 03:42.32 | jeffe44 | lol |
| 03:42.46 | ethics | supaplex i had blackrhino running on mine jeffe44 : ps2 |
| 03:43.01 | ethics | jeffe44 ps2....ps1 has no hdd |
| 03:43.06 | jeffe44 | ooh |
| 03:43.26 | jeffe44 | so you can install linux on a ps2..can you run games like unreal on it, or do you have to recompile it to run on linuz |
| 03:43.32 | jeffe44 | *linux playstation |
| 03:43.42 | ethics | hmm 20 yrs that aussie girl got for drugs |
| 03:43.58 | liable | shit, guilty eh? |
| 03:44.04 | Jamsi | 20 years |
| 03:44.08 | Jamsi | yep |
| 03:44.17 | liable | better than death though |
| 03:44.18 | Supaplex | that's pretty stiff |
| 03:44.32 | Supaplex | which aussie girl? |
| 03:44.34 | ethics | yeah....i dont think she did it for a few reasons etc but wither way i dont think you should get 20 years for a plant.....for a chemical designer drug yeah |
| 03:44.50 | liable | agreed |
| 03:44.52 | jeffe44 | she got busted in austrilla? |
| 03:45.00 | liable | bali |
| 03:45.09 | jeffe44 | oh ok |
| 03:45.10 | ethics | jeffe44: search blackrhino in goole...thats the debian distro for it |
| 03:45.14 | TwistedEmotions | what did she design? |
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| 03:45.23 | Supaplex | nothin |
| 03:45.35 | ethics | TwistedEmotions, she got dome for a Kg of marijuana....not a designer |
| 03:45.36 | jeffe44 | im surprised austrila isnt doing anything for her... |
| 03:45.55 | liable | she'll prolly serve time at home |
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| 03:45.56 | TwistedEmotions | she got 20 years for a kilo of weed? |
| 03:45.58 | ethics | jeffe44, well we sorta did but we also sorta have a gay priminister |
| 03:46.10 | ethics | sorta like the US has a cowbuy president |
| 03:46.12 | nipplesrulz | :/ |
| 03:46.19 | nn | YAY |
| 03:46.20 | nipplesrulz | how does one change windows in irssi? |
| 03:46.31 | liable | ctrl n/p |
| 03:46.37 | nn | ethics: nut'in wrong wit' cowboy george! |
| 03:47.00 | liable | or esc # |
| 03:47.02 | nn | </sarcasm></arkansas> |
| 03:47.07 | nipplesrulz | is there any way to tell it to tile windows so i can see more than one room at once? |
| 03:47.11 | furrywolf | grr. other box crashed AGAIN. |
| 03:47.14 | deadcat | cowboy is a term for working class. he aint |
| 03:47.25 | jeffe44 | bush isnt even from texas |
| 03:47.25 | furrywolf | I've eliminated network load... seems to be CPU load related. |
| 03:47.30 | jeffe44 | he is no cowboy lol |
| 03:47.38 | furrywolf | and/or graphics related |
| 03:47.41 | liable | nipplesrulz: you can split windows |
| 03:47.48 | jeffe44 | the image just worked well for him |
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| 03:47.56 | nipplesrulz | how do i do that liable |
| 03:48.07 | deadcat | nipplesrulz: /split |
| 03:48.42 | TwistedEmotions | nipplesrulz: use apt-get install knife |
| 03:48.48 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 03:48.51 | TwistedEmotions | ahahha get it? |
| 03:49.00 | deadcat | everything comes down to apt-get eh. |
| 03:49.12 | TwistedEmotions | Words of a wise man ^^^^^^ |
| 03:49.40 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: http://www.craigslist.org/nby/sys/75184945.html ask her to lower the price |
| 03:50.00 | nipplesrulz | couldnt find package knife |
| 03:50.04 | TwistedEmotions | It's a her? |
| 03:50.11 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. |
| 03:50.13 | furrywolf | trying to make sure it's not a hardware problem... underclocking the box now. |
| 03:50.18 | deadcat | nipplesrulz: its in non-free |
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| 03:50.23 | TwistedEmotions | nipplesrulz: apt-get install sense-a-humor |
| 03:50.39 | TwistedEmotions | Errr.. yeah I mean non-free |
| 03:50.39 | nipplesrulz | TwistedEmotions, apt-get install mypenisinyourass |
| 03:50.51 | nipplesrulz | deadcat, how do i get it then? |
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| 03:50.53 | ethics | Supaplex, the trick with PS2 is the same with Xbox.......hex edit the drive so it is recognized right but other than that it's just a ISO you can acquire |
| 03:51.00 | TwistedEmotions | apt-get remove --purge mypenisinyourass |
| 03:51.03 | deadcat | !non-free |
| 03:51.03 | dpkg | well, non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianers would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.htm |
| 03:51.12 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: haha your evil. |
| 03:51.12 | jeffe44 | when downloading java, should i download the rpm or the self extracting |
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| 03:52.17 | nipplesrulz | blah |
| 03:52.21 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you taking summer classes? or fall? |
| 03:52.27 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: summer |
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| 03:52.35 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: fall = Davis |
| 03:52.40 | nunez | how do I find out the size of a folder in MBs? |
| 03:52.44 | furrywolf | bumped the bus speed from 133 to 120mhz, and the sdram from 133 to 100... if it's a cpu, motherboard, or memory problem, that ought to make it at least do something different, eh? :) |
| 03:52.44 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: nice. |
| 03:53.06 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you finished eng126? |
| 03:53.13 | deadcat | nunez: no folders |
| 03:53.20 | TwistedEmotions | yeah hella days ago. |
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| 03:53.24 | deadcat | damn |
| 03:53.39 | nunez | deadcat, Directory |
| 03:53.48 | deadcat | nunez: du -sh |
| 03:57.27 | nn | wonderful idents people have.. |
| 03:57.55 | douglas | like who |
| 03:58.05 | nunez | thanks |
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| 03:58.30 | H2OyJaBoN | hi! |
| 03:58.37 | douglas | Hi!! |
| 03:58.43 | douglas | high five |
| 03:58.53 | H2OyJaBoN | =) |
| 03:59.16 | H2OyJaBoN | people... what file mannager are u using? |
| 03:59.32 | H2OyJaBoN | better.. how recommend u! |
| 03:59.54 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I asked her for it at 110... well see if she replies and if she agreed. |
| 04:00.05 | liable | H2OyJaBoN: whatever you like, try em all. |
| 04:00.11 | useruser | H2OyJaBoN: xfe is a windoze explorer clone you may like |
| 04:00.29 | H2OyJaBoN | =) |
| 04:00.30 | Supaplex | !aybabtu |
| 04:00.30 | dpkg | somebody said aybabtu was ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!, or all your beer are belong to us, or debian.org |
| 04:00.43 | H2OyJaBoN | useruser, ha ok! that 's xfce "fm" ? |
| 04:01.57 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: |
| 04:02.00 | TwistedEmotions | !test |
| 04:02.01 | dpkg | Sorry, twistedemotions, I didn't get your test. |
| 04:02.06 | TwistedEmotions | ;P |
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| 04:02.08 | useruser | H2OyJaBoN: nope |
| 04:02.18 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51041&item=5776948723&rd=1 |
| 04:02.25 | useruser | H2OyJaBoN: it's an independt file manager. i think it's quite nice if you grew up in windows |
| 04:02.39 | useruser | H2OyJaBoN: the xfce file manager is... odd |
| 04:02.47 | H2OyJaBoN | useruser, ok.. do u use that? |
| 04:02.55 | useruser | H2OyJaBoN: no, i tend to use bash |
| 04:02.57 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I bet you it would would with linux... that grey screen he speaks of just means that the laptop cant find a OS... |
| 04:03.05 | TwistedEmotions | *work |
| 04:03.07 | H2OyJaBoN | useruser, ok thankS! |
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| 04:05.13 | Usiu | Hi, Is it possible to keep sarge enviroment in pbuilder and do pbuilder create for sid.. I mean I dont want to download once again all packages for both... |
| 04:05.47 | nunez | How would I "du" a folder, then grep only the last line? |
| 04:05.49 | d03boy | what file type do I use for mounting an iso? iso9660? |
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| 04:06.32 | Supaplex | d03boy: try it |
| 04:06.51 | d03boy | i'm allergic to trying new things :( |
| 04:06.58 | Supaplex | !tias |
| 04:06.58 | dpkg | [tias] try it and see |
| 04:07.02 | liable | d03boy: live on the edge |
| 04:07.13 | liable | d03boy: man mount |
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| 04:09.28 | thaswiftness | is there something besides control center->components->component chooser->web browser that can make firefox load by defualt instead of konqueror? |
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| 04:10.47 | Supaplex | by default? from what? |
| 04:11.05 | Supaplex | you click on a link where, and it opens knoq instead of FF? |
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| 04:11.30 | thaswiftness | xchat |
| 04:11.36 | funnyguts | Is the latest kernel for Debian 2.6.8? |
| 04:11.50 | thaswiftness | is the only place ive clicked on links so far |
| 04:11.50 | Supaplex | funnyguts: http://kernel.org/ |
| 04:11.54 | mwilson | xchat is gnomecrap, it isn't going to care about kdecrap. |
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| 04:12.26 | thaswiftness | i used to use mepis and it worked |
| 04:12.41 | Supaplex | well mepis isn't xchat, now is it? |
| 04:12.45 | Supaplex | :) |
| 04:13.05 | thaswiftness | no mepis is a debian distro |
| 04:13.24 | d03boy | :) |
| 04:13.30 | mwilson | No, Mepis is Mepis. |
| 04:13.36 | Supaplex | you mean debian wannabe. |
| 04:13.41 | mwilson | The only "Debian distro" is Debian. |
| 04:13.54 | thaswiftness | didnt mean to start a war :x |
| 04:13.56 | Supaplex | just like mandrake != redhat. |
| 04:14.00 | mwilson | Of course you did. |
| 04:14.02 | thaswiftness | i made the switch to the real thing |
| 04:14.09 | thaswiftness | so no worries |
| 04:14.35 | thaswiftness | now its opening the address in konqueror but then loads the page in firefox lol o_O |
| 04:14.48 | mwilson | !lol |
| 04:14.48 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a kitten. |
| 04:15.08 | Supaplex | only one kitten? |
| 04:15.18 | mwilson | They add up. |
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| 04:16.07 | Supaplex | perl -e 'print "lol " x 59489284 # this is where greycat commits kitty genocide.' |
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| 04:16.52 | concept10 | whats the difference between debian and ubuntu? |
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| 04:17.21 | Supaplex | diff -u debian.iso ubuntu.iso > diffs.txt |
| 04:17.24 | d03boy | i hate cats, lol, lol, lol, lol... |
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| 04:17.30 | thaswiftness | heh |
| 04:17.37 | concept10 | that was great |
| 04:17.38 | Supaplex | you'd have to ask ubuntu, they forked from us. |
| 04:17.59 | mwilson | It's not Debian's problem to keep track of what Ubuntu is doing. |
| 04:18.11 | concept10 | just kidding guys |
| 04:18.21 | concept10 | sorry :) |
| 04:18.28 | mwilson | You're not. |
| 04:18.40 | Supaplex | you're only kidding because you realise we're not. |
| 04:18.46 | concept10 | I just wanted to see how fast someone would jump on that one |
| 04:18.47 | d03boy | whats a block device? |
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| 04:19.08 | mwilson | concept10: And how disappointed you were that no one did. |
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| 04:19.54 | nomed^ | Supaplex, more then diff -u debian.iso ubuntu.iso > diffs.txt |
| 04:20.09 | concept10 | mwilson: umm, just smile and forget about it |
| 04:20.09 | nomed^ | Supaplex, more then diff -u debian.maint ubuntu.maint > diffs.txt |
| 04:20.19 | mwilson | Supaplex: I made mine on a CDRW, and erased it after I looked at it. |
| 04:20.25 | nomed^ | not many diff .. |
| 04:21.21 | Supaplex | they probly claimed sid and tweaked a few minor things. like allowing full sudo access. |
| 04:21.26 | nomed^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.36 | Supaplex | nomed^: point taken. :) |
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| 04:24.01 | nunez | hmm Fluxbox or E? |
| 04:24.22 | thaswiftness | so how do i make firefox load and not konqueror? :/ |
| 04:24.33 | Gil_ | thaswiftness: in your kcontrol, look for KDE Components |
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| 04:25.30 | thaswiftness | Gil_, yeah i set the web browser to firefox, but all that did was make konqueror and firefox load at the same time |
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| 04:26.18 | Bangers | hi guys can anyone help me mount a windows share in debian |
| 04:26.24 | Bangers | Ive apt-get installed samba |
| 04:26.47 | pinkflower | hey can anyone help be load my second hdd? I can't seem to see the files when I mount it and mkdir and all... I don't think I am pointing it to the right spot (hdb1, hdb2, etc), but how could I check to see what my 2nd hdd is named/is at? |
| 04:27.05 | thaswiftness | Bangers, i use smb4k to help me mount windows shares |
| 04:27.12 | pinkflower | what do you want to be able to do with the windows share? just access it from your linux machine? |
| 04:27.35 | Bangers | thaswiftness, whats that |
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| 04:28.05 | thaswiftness | its a gui for browsing a network |
| 04:28.36 | pinkflower | you'll like smb4k :) |
| 04:28.48 | Supaplex | there's always smbmount =) |
| 04:29.07 | Supaplex | good ole reliable |
| 04:29.48 | pinkflower | so does anyone think they can help with a 2nd hdd? |
| 04:31.25 | Bangers | when I run "mount -t smbfs -o blah \\server\share \mnt\point" |
| 04:31.30 | Bangers | I get bad fs, or or bad block etc. |
| 04:31.32 | Bangers | how come? |
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| 04:32.53 | Bangers | but smbclient lists shares fine.... |
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| 04:38.13 | Bangerss | Why do I get this when I try to mount a share with mount, "mount -t smbfs -o blah //server/share /mnt/point/" |
| 04:38.14 | Bangerss | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //server/share/, |
| 04:38.14 | Bangerss | or too many mounted file systems |
| 04:38.47 | deadcat | df |
| 04:39.23 | Bangerss | ? |
| 04:39.30 | bwlang | is nagios the best package for network monitoring - or should i consider others ? |
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| 04:39.34 | deadcat | 21:38 < Bangerss> or too many mounted file systems |
| 04:39.54 | dondelelcaro | Bangerss: first off, use smbmount to do that. |
| 04:39.58 | Bangerss | well, I only have 4 normal file systems mounted, so it's definately not hat. |
| 04:40.02 | dondelelcaro | Bangerss: secondly, -o blah; isn't going to work. |
| 04:40.09 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: you have ipod? |
| 04:40.09 | Bangerss | dondelelcaro, I cant see a smbmount anywhere... |
| 04:40.14 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: nope |
| 04:40.31 | Bangerss | dondelelcaro, obviously, I actually used -o username=foo,password=bar |
| 04:40.38 | dondelelcaro | !installit |
| 04:40.38 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
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| 04:40.58 | dondelelcaro | !+find bin/smbmount |
| 04:41.00 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 04:41.03 | kmap | leave |
| 04:41.15 | deadcat | kmap: you leave |
| 04:41.18 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/smbmount' (1): (/usr/bin/smbmount) in otherosfs/smbfs. |
| 04:41.21 | kmap | sorry |
| 04:41.23 | deadcat | (= |
| 04:41.44 | Bangerss | -su: /usr/bin/smbmount: No such file or directory |
| 04:41.51 | kmap | i wanted to know whether the freezing of sarge means that sid will now get a newer set of packages |
| 04:41.56 | dondelelcaro | Bangerss: SO INSTALL IT. |
| 04:42.02 | deadcat | kmap: no |
| 04:42.03 | kmap | xorg, kde3.4 etc |
| 04:42.24 | Bangerss | dondelelcaro, whats the package name? or better yet, how do i find out myself what the package name would be. smbmount wasnt recognised. |
| 04:42.41 | dondelelcaro | Bangerss: look at your scrollback. See what I asked dpkg? See what dpkg responded? |
| 04:42.42 | deadcat | smbclient |
| 04:42.44 | dondelelcaro | !tell Bangerss about search |
| 04:42.53 | kmap | deadcat:then when can w get kde3.4 in our repository? |
| 04:43.02 | dondelelcaro | kmap: /topic #debian-kde |
| 04:43.09 | deadcat | kmap: when they build it. |
| 04:43.14 | kmap | deadcat: thanx |
| 04:43.26 | concept10 | anyone have any knowledge of LynuxWorks RTOS? |
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| 04:43.36 | MrKeuner | changing the mouse pointer icons.. is this a xfree thing or a gnome thing? |
| 04:43.47 | deadcat | you mean ROTS? |
| 04:43.54 | Bangerss | dondelelcaro, yes i saw it, so the package name will be "otherosfs/smbfs" ? |
| 04:44.01 | dondelelcaro | Bangerss: no, it's smbfs. |
| 04:44.06 | deadcat | Bangerss: try dammit. |
| 04:44.17 | dondelelcaro | Bangerss: read through what dpkg told you. Help you it can. |
| 04:44.29 | Bangerss | oooh, smbfs :) |
| 04:44.32 | concept10 | deadcat: real-time operating system |
| 04:44.39 | Bangerss | i swear im not this dumb in real life :p |
| 04:44.40 | deadcat | concept10: ah. (= |
| 04:44.50 | deadcat | Bangerss: i doubt that. |
| 04:44.55 | dondelelcaro | otherosfs is just the section |
| 04:45.13 | concept10 | anyone have any embedded linux experience? |
| 04:45.14 | liable | Bangerss: apt-cache search and apt-cache show foo are your friends |
| 04:46.23 | Azar | I got a kernel panick and I am trying to reboot from the CD how do I do the rescue command? |
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| 04:46.54 | deadcat | Azar: which kernel give you panic? |
| 04:47.31 | Azar | deadcat just upgraded to Sarge and finished 2.6.8-2-k7 and I reboot |
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| 04:47.37 | liable | linux rescue? F1 or one of those gives you options |
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| 04:51.04 | Azar | thanks liable |
| 04:52.08 | Azar | damn now it stucked in syslogd startup |
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| 04:53.29 | Skrylar | can anyone help with some odd video problem? I can't get xfree86 to display in 1024x768 |
| 04:53.29 | ethics | yoda |
| 04:53.49 | ethics | bah miss |
| 04:54.02 | liable | Skrylar: you have that option in XF86config? |
| 04:54.18 | Skrylar | liable: yea, i set it to use 1024x768 |
| 04:54.48 | Skrylar | liable: but it only uses 800x600 (which looks like total garbage on my screen) |
| 04:55.14 | liable | Skrylar: and you cant change it in your wm? |
| 04:55.34 | Skrylar | liable: gnome only lets me pick 640x480 or 800x600 |
| 04:55.51 | Skrylar | liable: even though X is set to only use 1024x768 |
| 04:56.02 | liable | did you add the resolution manually, or with dpkg |
| 04:56.18 | Skrylar | liable: i used xf86config |
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| 04:56.40 | swim | hi |
| 04:56.42 | liable | ?? you edited it, or you reconfigured it? |
| 04:56.44 | Skrylar | swim: hi |
| 04:56.48 | Skrylar | liable: i re-configured it |
| 04:57.12 | liable | Skrylar: had you manually edited the file before? |
| 04:57.17 | swim | ive just read a forum posting somewhere about optimizing debian for i686... wondering if anyone in here does that? |
| 04:57.18 | Skrylar | liable: no |
| 04:57.44 | liable | Skrylar: is the resolution actually in your config file? |
| 04:57.49 | Skrylar | liable: yes |
| 04:58.05 | ethics | swim: we have i686 kernels and i386 kernels so somwhat i would say |
| 04:58.19 | liable | Skrylar: did you just do it, and have you logged out, then in? |
| 04:58.25 | Skrylar | liable: yes |
| 04:58.37 | swim | ethics: thats still not quite the same as a fully optimized distro though is it? |
| 04:58.46 | liable | Skrylar: dunno :( |
| 04:58.53 | thaswiftness | damnit this doesnt make any sense :/ why is konqueror loading instead of firefox >:| |
| 04:59.10 | swim | apt-get remove kde? |
| 04:59.13 | swim | ;P |
| 04:59.19 | thaswiftness | heh |
| 04:59.30 | swim | probably wont load then :) |
| 04:59.36 | thaswiftness | i dont really like gnome tho :\ |
| 04:59.47 | swim | many other choices |
| 04:59.50 | liable | Skrylar: have you restarted x? |
| 04:59.54 | Skrylar | liable: yes |
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| 05:00.25 | Azar | damn why it say root is ext2 filesystem readonly? |
| 05:00.33 | thaswiftness | like what? fluxbox? ice? :x |
| 05:00.48 | liable | Azar: remount it rw |
| 05:00.57 | swim | yah, or xfce, e16, e17... to name only a few |
| 05:01.40 | Azar | liable how remount in rw? |
| 05:01.43 | liable | thaswiftness: what app are you clicking the link in? |
| 05:01.59 | ethics | swim: no but apprently the only way to optimize a pc is to waste all your time compiling things so you get a .000004 percent speed increase on vague app alpha.... |
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| 05:02.30 | swim | ethics: or use a distro thats i686 optimized |
| 05:02.34 | Azar | it should have been an excellent kernel upgrade... I have no idea what went wrong, I even updated lilo.conf |
| 05:02.50 | swim | and if you have a fast proccessor the speed is REALLY noticable |
| 05:02.59 | thaswiftness | liable, xchat |
| 05:03.02 | liable | Azar: ok, how did you mount it, is this with the rescue option |
| 05:03.23 | Azar | yea I am in rescue is checking for forced umount |
| 05:03.26 | liable | thaswiftness: isnt there an option for that |
| 05:03.31 | ethics | swim: nah optimized = unstable 99% of the time |
| 05:03.37 | ethics | swim: its one of those words that sound different but mean the same 8) |
| 05:03.42 | ethics | swim: what are you thinking is optimized distro.. |
| 05:03.43 | swim | haha not a chance ethics |
| 05:04.06 | thaswiftness | i dont want to have to navigate through menus to open a link, i want to click on it -> open in web browser |
| 05:04.19 | swim | there are so many stable i686 distros... even many built for servers |
| 05:04.23 | Azar | it does not detect any modules at all... |
| 05:04.26 | swim | i686 optimization is very stable |
| 05:04.48 | Azar | then crashes at INIT: Entering runlevel: 2 Starting system log daemon: syslogd |
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| 05:04.53 | ethics | swim: gentoo is the most optimizable....but then compiling can take alot of time thus it not being the optimum optimization method |
| 05:05.15 | ethics | swim or any that ask you to compile everything |
| 05:05.22 | swim | yah i agree, ive recently decided against a source based distro |
| 05:05.31 | Azar | well I guess I have to reinstall beyond any repair here |
| 05:05.43 | liable | Azar: no old kernel image to load? |
| 05:06.03 | ethics | swim: so what are you thinking about using atm ? |
| 05:06.05 | Azar | liable I cannot see, it is NOT booting, crashes in rescue mode |
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| 05:06.35 | ethics | Azar grub or lilo |
| 05:06.42 | liable | Azar: oh, so you cant even get the rescue bit working? |
| 05:06.42 | Azar | ethics, lilo |
| 05:06.55 | Azar | liable, no is beyond any repair |
| 05:07.01 | Azar | its ok I will reinstall |
| 05:07.04 | swim | ethics: ive been having a really hard time actually... ive been running archlinux for about a year, and its nice, but im bored of it... so ive been floating around a bunch of different ones for some time now... |
| 05:07.09 | ethics | Azar: kk |
| 05:07.17 | swim | i would love a binary based crux |
| 05:07.40 | liable | Azar: so you booted the cd, typed 'linux rescue' and it failed to load? |
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| 05:08.39 | ethics | swim: well i suppose the statment that needs to be made is that debian distros are optimized for stability.......if you want bleeding edge there is an unstable path but its one of those you break it you keep it things |
| 05:09.41 | ethics | swim: perhaps something like Ocerclockix? |
| 05:09.50 | ethics | swim overclockix rather |
| 05:09.51 | Azar | liable started to load , noted no modules existent and crashed at that line ^^^ |
| 05:10.04 | swim | ethics: yah thats a good point. I want to use it mainly because all of the "guru's" i know use debian... but im not ready to giveup the speed |
| 05:10.16 | swim | mmm havent looked at overclockix |
| 05:10.26 | Azar | plus, it read my root as ext2 when in fact I know it is ext3 |
| 05:10.43 | ethics | swim: it's not slow....what speed cpu you have? |
| 05:10.55 | Azar | bad kernel upgrade eh |
| 05:10.58 | swim | 2.5 |
| 05:11.11 | silverton | argh! >:O |
| 05:11.14 | silverton | my soond isn't working |
| 05:11.24 | ethics | Azar they are very close to each other.......guessing progys confuse them regularly |
| 05:11.33 | silverton | the right module is loaded, the volumes are up, the cable is plugged into the subwoofer/computer, speaker volume is up |
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| 05:12.00 | Azar | yeah I remember I had such a hiccup sometimes in the past |
| 05:12.00 | Nigel | silverton: are the speakers, like, on? |
| 05:12.07 | silverton | Nigel, like, yes |
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| 05:12.20 | silverton | the TV is playing through them at the moment |
| 05:12.29 | silverton | the subwoofer has two inputs |
| 05:13.37 | liable | Azar: thats weird, it should be booting the kernel off the cd and not mounting your filesystem anyway. |
| 05:13.43 | ethics | swim: id say try debian first as you would like to run it......if you feel like its too slow then try to isolate what inparticular is slow ...you have alot of options to download source and add options on specific things...so you can recomile things you need optimized etc |
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| 05:13.50 | Nigel | is the volume up in kde/gnome/*/program you are using? |
| 05:13.56 | silverton | Nigel, yes |
| 05:14.03 | silverton | (gnome btw) |
| 05:14.13 | swim | ethics: oh i have tried it in the past... i ran it for a bit |
| 05:14.16 | silverton | I even changed the gstreamer setting from "osssink" to "alsasink" |
| 05:14.28 | swim | i just dont feel like compiling often |
| 05:14.33 | Nigel | plug some headphones into you computer and try playing something... |
| 05:15.02 | Nigel | ohhh that gstreamer setting can be a bit sticky ;) |
| 05:15.03 | liable | silverton: when did this start happening? |
| 05:15.16 | silverton | liable, When I installed |
| 05:15.21 | liable | oh |
| 05:15.44 | liable | silverton: ok, so you are using alsa or oss |
| 05:15.47 | ethics | swim: i cant tell you any specific distros which "quick" so to speak but debian is faster than alot of the bloated distros around...im not saying its"quick" but its also not notable "slow" |
| 05:15.55 | silverton | liable, alsa |
| 05:16.03 | silverton | Nigel, nothing plays out of any of the output ports |
| 05:16.05 | Nigel | you might find if you go back it reverted, thats what happened here once... |
| 05:16.16 | liable | silverton: and alsaconf has configured the card? |
| 05:16.20 | silverton | liable, yes |
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| 05:16.38 | silverton | Nigel, still alsasink |
| 05:16.40 | ethics | silverton....your a member of audio group? |
| 05:16.49 | liable | silverton: if you start xmms, does the equalizer move when playing a song? |
| 05:16.52 | ethics | silverton any errors or it looks like itsa playing? |
| 05:17.03 | silverton | yes, the equalizer is moving |
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| 05:17.15 | jeff99 | so, does anyone have an idea on how to get more download speed with bittorrent under debian? it seems i had more speed when using windows |
| 05:17.26 | silverton | jeff99, I get more speed under debian |
| 05:17.29 | liable | silverton: what kernel? |
| 05:17.34 | silverton | standard 2.6.8 |
| 05:17.47 | jeff99 | hmm...i cant seem to get more than 20 kb/s |
| 05:18.05 | jeff99 | no matter which client i use...and on a torrent which was 117 in linux |
| 05:18.16 | ethics | jeff99: what kind of a torrent? |
| 05:18.25 | Azar | yeah it looked weird liable... |
| 05:18.27 | jeff99 | a documentary |
| 05:18.33 | Azar | I did everything by the book, clean and neat |
| 05:18.40 | liable | silverton: play with the output plugins |
| 05:18.43 | Azar | I guess it was a hiccup |
| 05:19.10 | jeff99 | how odd |
| 05:19.17 | silverton | liable, I have set to use ALSA and it sees my card |
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| 05:19.32 | luulis | jeff99: you do limit your bittorrent upload speed to something a bit under your max upload speed? I for example have about 40kB/s max upload and limit it to 30kB/s to get optimum speed |
| 05:19.42 | Azar | hmmm one only thing I did not do: get rid of some non-free, non-us sources and I guess I got some shit installed after upgrading to Sarge |
| 05:19.54 | ethics | jeff99: well you have to realise that bittorent is alot slower with 70 percent of the pirates missing on alot of files but having said that if theres plenty of seeds you should get full bandwidth unless your firewalled |
| 05:20.11 | Azar | another ALSA hurt person... |
| 05:20.15 | jeff99 | luulis, i limited my upload speed to about 2 kb/s lower than my max upload |
| 05:20.44 | jeff99 | there are 361 seeds and i am connected to 37 of them |
| 05:20.59 | luulis | jeff99: ok, i have a cable modem, it may be different with other internet connections.. |
| 05:21.20 | jeff99 | my upload speed is fine |
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| 05:21.48 | ethics | any firewalling on linux? |
| 05:21.55 | ethics | jeff99 :any firewalling on linux? |
| 05:22.02 | liable | Azar: get the sarge net install and boot with linux26 and shit will be a lot easier |
| 05:22.03 | Azar | I got to share this with alsa people: reinstalled the system because alsa does not work |
| 05:22.09 | luulis | standard bittorrent client and bittornado have those lights that indicate some things, if you are using either of those, are they green? |
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| 05:22.23 | jeff99 | not that i know of Ethics.. i am just using the standart debian sarge netinstall |
| 05:22.45 | jeff99 | i just put it online today..and i am on azerus luulis |
| 05:22.46 | Azar | liable, I guess the net install is a big "unknown" to me I did Sarge upgrade three weeks ago is ok |
| 05:22.58 | silverton | jeff99, use the official client j0 |
| 05:23.06 | silverton | I do the netinst |
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| 05:23.18 | jeff99 | ill try it again |
| 05:23.23 | liable | Azar: if you get it, you start with a 2.6.8 kernel, and you wont have to upgrade shit |
| 05:23.45 | liable | Azar: or even sarge cd1 |
| 05:24.02 | luulis | i once tried azureus but i felt it was very slow compared to bittornado/bittorrent versions especially when hashing files.. |
| 05:24.12 | ethics | !tell azar about d-i |
| 05:24.20 | silverton | I love the official client |
| 05:24.42 | jeff99 | do you think i shuold update to 2.6? |
| 05:25.01 | liable | kernel? |
| 05:25.03 | Azar | ethics gui installers are intimidating me |
| 05:25.10 | jeff99 | yea |
| 05:25.15 | Azar | I like the console screen better |
| 05:25.22 | silverton | jeff99, yes... :P\ |
| 05:25.24 | luulis | i use bttrack and btlaunchmanycurses and look my torrents status from a terminal window :) |
| 05:25.36 | liable | Azar: the sarge installer isnt gui, its ncurses, and dont be silly |
| 05:26.02 | jeff99 | ok well in the new bittorrent, the offical bittorrent.. i see no status light anymore lol |
| 05:26.10 | liable | jeff99: I dont think it'll help your torrent problem |
| 05:26.15 | Azar | since I am installing Woody from the CD what sense is to go netinstall? |
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| 05:26.37 | technos | Azureus has the advantage that you can run it on any machine you own regardless of OS and have a uniform interface. |
| 05:26.58 | liable | Azar: so you start with a 2.6.8 kernel, you get grub as a bootloader and you dont have to mess around doing woody -> sarge shit |
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| 05:27.23 | jeff99 | i usually get faster downloads with azureus |
| 05:27.25 | jeff99 | in windows |
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| 05:27.32 | dragon10101 | had a question if I took a archive tar'd it up moved it to a disk restored it would the orignal ownership and persmissions be lost? |
| 05:27.34 | Azar | liable I do not know grub I got used handling lilo |
| 05:27.52 | dragon10101 | or would the tarball maintain the permissions |
| 05:27.54 | silverton | Could my kernel be keeping me from sound? |
| 05:27.54 | liable | Azar: well theres not much to learn |
| 05:28.01 | Azar | I am done with the installation anyways |
| 05:28.04 | Azar | 25 min |
| 05:28.13 | Azar | going sarge now |
| 05:28.30 | liable | Azar: fine, install woody again, fuck around updating it, dont get alsa to work and come here and whinge |
| 05:28.46 | Azar | I am sorry if I upset you |
| 05:29.00 | nomed^ | what is the CONFIG*? name in .config for UDEV module? |
| 05:29.01 | liable | not upset at all |
| 05:29.14 | Azar | I guess alsa is not ready yet... so I will be patient for them to fix it |
| 05:29.22 | dragon10101 | would a tar'd archive maintain its permissions/ownership |
| 05:29.41 | dragon10101 | anyone have wise words for the workings of tar =) |
| 05:29.48 | liable | dragon10101: -a |
| 05:30.20 | FinnTux | any idea if theres gonna be newer kopete in sarge? |
| 05:30.35 | FinnTux | msn is not working in 0.9.2 |
| 05:30.38 | streuner | FinnTux: #debian-kde |
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| 05:30.47 | FinnTux | rgr |
| 05:30.49 | jeff99 | so..what should i check for in tcp dump when looking for errors |
| 05:30.52 | dragon10101 | ..... liable -a doesnt answer the question as to would it maintain its permissions and ownership when moved and restored or simply uncrompressed |
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| 05:31.21 | silverton | anyone have any idea when gnome 2.10 is going to be packaged? |
| 05:31.43 | dragon10101 | -a isnt even a flag to tar that iv ever seen ;p |
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| 05:32.06 | technos | silverton: They're hard at work at it, and it will surely be packaged for the next major version of Debian. Expect it early 2007. |
| 05:32.17 | silverton | doh... |
| 05:32.27 | streuner | silverton: ask the maint |
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| 05:32.48 | silverton | streuner, who are they? |
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| 05:34.04 | dragon10101 | does no one in here use tar? or does simply know one know if tar would cause file systems to lose there ownership and or permissions? |
| 05:34.22 | dragon10101 | my thought is that it would lose all ownership and permissions but I would like a for sure answer or someone else's idea on this |
| 05:34.42 | silverton | there is a option that you pass to tar to keep file permissions |
| 05:34.44 | silverton | -p I think |
| 05:34.55 | kooldeb | when trying to do apt-get upgrade, I get: Errors were encoutered while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/exim4-config_4.50-6_all.deb and /var/cache/apt/archives/exim4-base_4.50-6_i386.deb; any ideas how to solve this problem ? |
| 05:35.11 | silverton | kooldeb, try apt-get clean then try again |
| 05:35.16 | squareff | is there any command line which returns the user name of the admin (usualy root, but not necessarily) |
| 05:35.26 | dragon10101 | that would preserve permissions but would it keep ownership Silverton? or is that simply a given |
| 05:35.53 | silverton | dragon10101, I'm not positive, but it shouldn't since all computers don't have the same users |
| 05:36.19 | dragon10101 | very true thank you for your assistence silverton my thoughts were along those lines |
| 05:36.40 | silverton | unless of course, the particular tar consists of files for root |
| 05:36.48 | silverton | but even then, not all computers don't have "root" |
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| 05:38.07 | inu | dragon10101, it keeps ownership for me |
| 05:38.45 | inu | dragon10101, make a tarfile and do tar tvf file, you'll notice that perms and owner/group is listed |
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| 05:38.55 | dragon10101 | inu, so simply archiving somthing using the -p flag to preserve permissions and then restoring the tar say of a disk heirchy would also preserver ownership? |
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| 05:39.14 | inu | dragon10101, -p is for extraction |
| 05:39.29 | streuner | silverton: http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-2.10-experimental-2005-04-18-18-37 |
| 05:39.40 | silverton | liable, and whoever else suggested things |
| 05:39.43 | silverton | this is what I needed to do: |
| 05:39.45 | inu | it'll keep other things by default, it was after all designed for backup, it'd be silly if all ownership and permissions were lost |
| 05:39.45 | silverton | amixer set "Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack" on |
| 05:39.51 | dragon10101 | indeed but what holds its permissions and ownership when its placed on backup disks? |
| 05:40.07 | dragon10101 | very true inu ill give it a try =) |
| 05:40.11 | inu | dragon10101, it's in the tar file |
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| 05:41.30 | abgi | vhghgh |
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| 05:43.32 | silverton | What's the command to run to reconfigure apt ? |
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| 05:43.45 | dragon10101 | dpkg-reconfigure pkg |
| 05:44.01 | dragon10101 | or simply edit the apt sources file if that is what you mean |
| 05:44.08 | streuner | silverton: if you still continue asking those question, don't use unstable now |
| 05:44.27 | silverton | streuner, :P Don't plan to |
| 05:44.35 | silverton | I'll stick with testing for now |
| 05:44.46 | streuner | hm |
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| 05:45.03 | kooldeb | hmm is ftpdebian.de.org working for anyone on apt-get ? |
| 05:45.08 | liable | silverton: apt-setup |
| 05:45.41 | dragon10101 | <<thinks its easier to simply edit /etc/apt/sources.list ;p |
| 05:45.59 | silverton | dragon10101, more then likely, but, I'm a lazy white bastard |
| 05:46.04 | dragon10101 | haha |
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| 05:46.16 | lkthomas2 | hey all |
| 05:46.37 | lkthomas | does anyone know which firefox extension could monitor a dynamic web site keyword ? |
| 05:46.38 | silverton | http://debian.osuosl.org/ where is this server located? |
| 05:46.52 | silverton | ROFL! |
| 05:46.53 | silverton | nevermind |
| 05:46.54 | silverton | the logo says |
| 05:46.57 | silverton | "oregon state uni" |
| 05:46.58 | liable | kooldeb: put the url in a browser and see what happens |
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| 05:47.44 | kooldeb | Q about apt. IF I have two sources.list file each with different entries, and I do apt-get update then apgrade on the first, and after that do the same on the second sources.list, will there be package uninstalled from the first sources.list when running the second sources.list ? |
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| 05:48.50 | dragon10101 | kooldeb 1: why would you do that and 2: the second would interfere with the first run so .... it would remove/update/add etc to the apt repository unless specified a new place |
| 05:48.52 | dragon10101 | and so forth |
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| 05:49.48 | dragon10101 | but again... you would have to do it on purpose and make it use the new list overtop of the default which since simply editing it would solve any problem so making 2 would imo be dumb unless you were using somthing such as UML and had multiple reasons to do so or mass distribution on lans in which case simply having your own repository would make much more sense ;p |
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| 05:50.06 | furrywolf | dragon: use punctuation. |
| 05:50.15 | dragon10101 | sorry... my fault |
| 05:50.40 | kooldeb | dragon10101: I have my own reasons of using 2, but thanks for explaining |
| 05:51.19 | nomed^ | is it possible to use initrd and udev? |
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| 05:51.36 | streuner | nomed^: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 05:51.58 | ruemohr | raid, eek! manual says too... but.... help! |
| 05:52.11 | ruemohr | why is raidtools2 only in stable??? |
| 05:52.30 | ruemohr | did it get ousted for part of another package?? |
| 05:52.46 | nomed^ | streuner, do you mean version? |
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| 05:52.55 | streuner | yes |
| 05:53.02 | nomed^ | 2.3.2.ds1-21 |
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| 05:53.37 | streuner | !possible |
| 05:53.38 | dpkg | Anything's possible. Some things are more possible than others. You'll need to ask a more meaningful question if you want to find out how possible your planned course of action is. |
| 05:53.58 | streuner | nomed^: besides, run 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' |
| 05:54.07 | ruemohr | ???? neither mdadm or raidtools exist in testing!!!!! whats going on???? |
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| 05:54.20 | liable | raidutils? |
| 05:54.22 | nomed^ | i'm asking this because in initrd the init script seems to try to mount /devfs |
| 05:54.32 | furrywolf | someone needs to just bring in an eliza bot, and let it help users. or jabberwacky as it works better. :) |
| 05:54.40 | ruemohr | liable: thats "too" old?? |
| 05:54.41 | nomed^ | does this heppen also for sid version ? |
| 05:54.45 | ruemohr | raidtools2 |
| 05:54.59 | ruemohr | but, I get the "mentioned but not available" error |
| 05:55.01 | streuner | nomed^: what version of debian do you run actually? |
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| 05:55.09 | nomed^ | sarge |
| 05:55.24 | nomed^ | testing .. |
| 05:55.32 | streuner | nomed^: you didn't even update it |
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| 05:55.44 | ruemohr | nobody knows eh? |
| 05:55.56 | stupidkid | i have a question, do you know how to make my monitor not auto turn off when it not used? |
| 05:55.57 | ruemohr | I'm not surprised |
| 05:56.05 | furrywolf | http://www.jabberwacky.com/ <== all who have debian questions, go there, and enter your question. it will automatically connect you to a random debian developer you can chat with! |
| 05:56.14 | streuner | nomed^: what does BTS say? |
| 05:56.19 | Coke | stupidkid: turn of DPMS in X. |
| 05:56.21 | ruemohr | stupidkid: for console or X? |
| 05:56.34 | stupidkid | x |
| 05:56.42 | ruemohr | turn off DPMS |
| 05:56.47 | stupidkid | how? |
| 05:56.49 | nomed^ | streuner, BTS ? i'm sorry but i don't understand .. |
| 05:56.51 | streuner | furrywolf: haha |
| 05:56.55 | stupidkid | i havee to return my kernel? |
| 05:56.57 | ruemohr | stupidkid: dig around the menu's |
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| 05:57.12 | streuner | nomed^: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 05:57.49 | stupidkid | xset dpms force off? |
| 05:57.50 | nomed^ | streuner, ok :P .... |
| 05:57.59 | nomed^ | i 'm going to check .. |
| 05:58.17 | ruemohr | sdf |
| 05:58.51 | stupidkid | Coke, how do i turn off DPMS in x? |
| 05:58.52 | ruemohr | who can remind me of the command to grab back my nick so I can go ask in #linux? |
| 05:58.53 | streuner | nomed^: its early in morning here |
| 05:59.00 | stupidkid | is it in XFree86 config file? |
| 05:59.09 | stupidkid | i dont see any DPMS in there |
| 05:59.21 | streuner | nomed^: :-), of course you can use use both, but don't use udev - its crap. |
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| 06:01.06 | stupidkid | lol |
| 06:01.08 | nikunj | how can i set IP on a debian box ? |
| 06:01.22 | deadcat | nikunj: how do you set it on linux? |
| 06:01.50 | stupidkid | ifconfig interface ip |
| 06:01.53 | nomed^ | streuner, it's early in mornig here tooo ...and maybe that's the reason .. but are you sating to don't use udev? |
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| 06:02.00 | liable | bykte: dont irc as root |
| 06:02.07 | streuner | nomed^: right |
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| 06:02.23 | liable | streuner: why |
| 06:02.31 | streuner | !fuck udev |
| 06:02.40 | stupidkid | haha |
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| 06:02.42 | streuner | that's why |
| 06:02.48 | nomed^ | but it seems it's a kind of standard now .. |
| 06:02.48 | Fyre | someone remind me how to reconfigure X |
| 06:02.50 | Fyre | dpkg-reconfigure X ? |
| 06:02.54 | holycow | see, udev is good for something |
| 06:02.55 | deadcat | !drxx |
| 06:02.55 | dpkg | rumour has it, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
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| 06:03.03 | nomed^ | linus cox ... suggest to use it .. |
| 06:03.06 | furrywolf | I seriously need to make an interface to jabberwacky with the title of "chat with a debian developer!" :) |
| 06:03.12 | bykte | how do you check your current ram and hdd space? |
| 06:03.17 | Fyre | thanks deadcat |
| 06:03.20 | nomed^ | df |
| 06:03.20 | stupidkid | deatcat how do we turn off DPMS? |
| 06:03.28 | streuner | nomed^: you don't need it |
| 06:03.33 | technos | bykte: free/df |
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| 06:03.37 | nikunj | stupidkid: i do not see eth0 on the box |
| 06:03.38 | bykte | ok |
| 06:03.39 | Azar | I am such a moron |
| 06:03.39 | deadcat | streuner: what the fuck is that? |
| 06:03.46 | streuner | udev |
| 06:03.51 | deadcat | nikunj: then you dont have your nic card setup right. |
| 06:03.53 | H2OyJaBoN | what are oficials sarge repositor's? |
| 06:03.54 | stupidkid | nikunj: ifconfig |
| 06:03.54 | nomed^ | streuner, how do you know ? :DD |
| 06:03.59 | deadcat | Azar: yes you are |
| 06:04.05 | Azar | ofcourse it crashed, I forgot to /sbin/lilo |
| 06:04.06 | nikunj | how can i set up my nic card in debina ? |
| 06:04.10 | nikunj | is there is any way ? |
| 06:04.12 | bykte | there are so many numbers |
| 06:04.16 | Azar | deadcat you are allways so right |
| 06:04.16 | jm_ | !irritate nikunj |
| 06:04.17 | dpkg | nikunj: Y iz debain so old? where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol U FUX0RZ |
| 06:04.17 | bykte | which one tells the hdd spsace? |
| 06:04.21 | deadcat | nikunj: how do you set it on diff distro? |
| 06:04.22 | streuner | nomed^: spend some time here in channel and listen what people tell you... |
| 06:04.37 | nomed^ | i don't need it but i would understand the boot up process with initrd |
| 06:04.38 | deadcat | bykte: hdd? or harddrive? |
| 06:04.52 | bykte | hdd space |
| 06:05.01 | deadcat | hdd can be a cdrom |
| 06:05.15 | bykte | membrive: 10281664 8800464 1481200 0 1567012 2907784 |
| 06:05.15 | bykte | -/+ buffers/cache: 4325668 5955996 |
| 06:05.19 | nikunj | deadcat: most distros i use find nic automatically and install it for me |
| 06:05.20 | jm_ | he probably means hdd as in HarD Disk ;) |
| 06:05.20 | bykte | what's my space? |
| 06:05.23 | geppel | I running Debian sid and just install postgresql without incident, after that I installed phppgadmin and then created the following Alias in my httpd.conf (http://pastebin.com/290570). When i go to visit the page I get the following error in my web browser: (403 Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /psql). The permissions I have set on /usr/share/phppgadmin are 775 www-data.www-data Any ideas??? |
| 06:05.34 | nunez | I killed syslogd then restarted it, now it dont get logs from iptabes, but I get other logs |
| 06:05.36 | deadcat | nikunj: ah. so you have learn nothing from them. |
| 06:05.44 | bykte | is that 10gb? or 5 gb? |
| 06:05.44 | deadcat | jm_: well hes a moron. (= |
| 06:05.45 | liable | nikunj: man interfaces, /usr/share/docs/ifup-ifdown/examples |
| 06:06.14 | bykte | ah i see df tells u the hdd space |
| 06:06.18 | bykte | then what about the ram? |
| 06:06.33 | furrywolf | bykte: you need to talk to a debian developer. go to http://www.jabberwacky.com/ and enter your question to have it forwarded to one. |
| 06:06.34 | deadcat | bykte: use hard drive. not hdd dammit. |
| 06:06.54 | bykte | ook how do u check the ram then? |
| 06:07.07 | deadcat | free -tm or install linuxlogo |
| 06:07.27 | rue_mohr | I'm mee! |
| 06:07.38 | deadcat | rue_mohr: what the f? |
| 06:07.40 | bykte | what does free -tm got to do with anything |
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| 06:07.45 | nikunj | i feel that, debian has not seen my PCI network card..i.e. Realtek 8139 |
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| 06:07.56 | rendie | mkv extracted streams are out of a/v sync why is this? |
| 06:07.59 | bykte | shhesh ...experts? |
| 06:08.04 | streuner | furrywolf: that's not funny anymore |
| 06:08.13 | rue_mohr | well, nobody here can answer my debian raid questions, and I have to be me to ask in #linux |
| 06:08.24 | rendie | mkv extracted streams are out of a/v sync why is this? |
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| 06:08.33 | deadcat | nikunj: 8139too i think.? |
| 06:08.36 | streuner | !rtl8139 |
| 06:08.36 | nikunj | yes |
| 06:08.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, rtl8139 is a RealTek PCI NIC that uses the 8139too (new) or rtl8139 (old) driver. *not* ne2k-pci, or a piece of shit card!...but some people have had good luck with it. see also <rtl81x9.c> |
| 06:08.48 | rendie | one is slightly longer than the other.. |
| 06:08.57 | rendie | the lenght of the movie that is |
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| 06:09.03 | rendie | and the audio |
| 06:09.08 | bykte | rue_mohr just go it's useless here |
| 06:09.18 | deadcat | ya. get the fuck out |
| 06:09.19 | nikunj | it works for me with other distros, basically i want debian to use it..how can i do that ? |
| 06:09.39 | bykte | yes deadcat please do |
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| 06:09.39 | deadcat | nikunj: modprobe 8139too then ifconfig -a |
| 06:09.46 | furrywolf | streuner: au contraire... I think it should be added as a factoid, to be used on users who can't seem to listen or understand anything, so they can chat with someone of the same intellect. |
| 06:09.46 | deadcat | bykte: shutup |
| 06:09.47 | liable | bykte: top will show current mem stats |
| 06:09.55 | rendie | HEY |
| 06:10.02 | rue_mohr | well, you guys oviously cant answer raid questions, so .. whatever |
| 06:10.09 | deadcat | no we cant |
| 06:10.13 | bykte | liable , thanks |
| 06:10.23 | nomed^ | who think is better to use udev the devfs? |
| 06:10.34 | deadcat | me |
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| 06:10.45 | nomed^ | that's nice |
| 06:10.47 | streuner | furrywolf: /msg dpkg foo is <reply> blahblah |
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| 06:10.52 | nomed^ | deadcat, me to |
| 06:10.54 | liable | never had a prob with udev, dunno why some people say its shit |
| 06:10.59 | furrywolf | streuner: I know how to add factoids. :) |
| 06:11.02 | rendie | mkv extracted streams are out of a/v sync why is this? |
| 06:11.14 | nomed^ | deadcat, i fell you don't use any initrd .. true? |
| 06:11.18 | streuner | furrywolf: http://www.jabberwacky.com/ |
| 06:11.20 | deadcat | nop |
| 06:11.28 | rendie | mkv extracted streams are out of a/v sync why is this? |
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| 06:11.43 | liable | nomed^: what kernel is that using devfs? |
| 06:11.47 | rue_mohr | haha, NOBODY on irc has ever done software raid... ahahahhaa |
| 06:11.51 | Fyre | wtf... do users not timeout here?! |
| 06:11.52 | rendie | mkv extracted streams are out of a/v sync why is this? |
| 06:11.58 | rue_mohr | again, I'm the only one |
| 06:12.04 | deadcat | rue_mohr: apt-cache search raid |
| 06:12.07 | nomed^ | liable, not the kernel but the mkinitrd script |
| 06:12.21 | rue_mohr | deadcat: its there, but not available |
| 06:12.21 | Fyre | DIE! >:o |
| 06:12.25 | streuner | furrywolf: that's not funny _and_ not helpful |
| 06:12.31 | nikunj | rue_mohr: What are u trying to achieve ? |
| 06:12.37 | nomed^ | mkinitrd script i feel should be upgraded |
| 06:12.46 | deadcat | rue_mohr: mdadm right? |
| 06:12.51 | rue_mohr | nikunj: raid 1 |
| 06:13.07 | nikunj | on debian box ? |
| 06:13.08 | rue_mohr | deadcat: I dont know, the manual says to use raidtools2 |
| 06:13.20 | rue_mohr | I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW the manual!!!! |
| 06:13.21 | deadcat | rue_mohr: install mdadm and read the doc. its not that hard. |
| 06:13.41 | rue_mohr | so mdadm replaced raidtools2? |
| 06:13.42 | deadcat | rue_mohr: I DONT KNOW THAT. |
| 06:14.07 | rue_mohr | :/ |
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| 06:14.21 | silverton | dpkg got pwnt |
| 06:14.31 | bykte | great |
| 06:14.37 | nomed^ | i wouldn' check the ubuntu one but if someone can just .. |
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| 06:14.44 | nomed^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.51 | deadcat | nomed^: #ubuntu |
| 06:15.25 | streuner | rue_mohr: check out debian-devel (ML) |
| 06:15.39 | H2OyJaBoN | can anyone say me sarge repositors!? |
| 06:15.43 | streuner | rue_mohr: there should a threat about it |
| 06:15.52 | streuner | rue_mohr: be* |
| 06:15.54 | nikunj | rue_mohr: are u using mdadm ? |
| 06:16.13 | rue_mohr | going to try now |
| 06:16.24 | streuner | H2OyJaBoN: apt-setup will fix it for you |
| 06:16.26 | rue_mohr | have to find the manual again |
| 06:16.30 | nomed^ | deadcat, i need to know if in sid is the same init script for ex .. who care about ubuntu .. if in sid is the same init script then i'll join #ubuntu |
| 06:16.34 | deadcat | no wonder. that bitch was using bitchx |
| 06:16.58 | deadcat | nomed^: dont know. you will haev to check with #ubuntu |
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| 06:17.15 | H2OyJaBoN | streuner, ok thanks! but are all online? |
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| 06:17.33 | silverton | ubuntu is debian for noobs >.< |
| 06:17.38 | nomed^ | deadcat, are you using sid ? |
| 06:17.41 | deadcat | yes |
| 06:17.42 | streuner | H2OyJaBoN: yeah, debian folks using i-net to upgrade the packages |
| 06:17.47 | nomed^ | grep "devfs" /usr/share/initrd-tools/init |
| 06:17.58 | nomed^ | nedd just to know it |
| 06:18.11 | H2OyJaBoN | streuner, ok ! =) thanks! |
| 06:18.16 | deadcat | nomed^: i dont have that file. |
| 06:18.28 | nomed^ | ok |
| 06:18.50 | deadcat | nomed^: why cant you grep it |
| 06:19.16 | nomed^ | deadcat, i feel i didn't explain how i should so |
| 06:19.31 | nomed^ | my init show me mount -nt devfs devfs devfs |
| 06:19.35 | nomed^ | i use sarge |
| 06:19.49 | nomed^ | i would know if it's the same with sid |
| 06:19.56 | deadcat | nomed^: download the package from p.d.o and extra it to /tmp |
| 06:20.04 | nomed^ | yes ... |
| 06:20.15 | nomed^ | i'm doing this |
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| 06:20.54 | streuner | nomed^: wth are you trying? |
| 06:21.22 | nomed^ | i would use an initrd that uses udev and not devfs |
| 06:21.24 | nomed^ | mainly |
| 06:21.45 | deadcat | i love my windows os |
| 06:21.51 | nomed^ | with initrd-scripts it's possible to customize the whole initrd struct |
| 06:22.42 | nomed^ | that's just because i need to make a demo live cd .. and i would include udev and not devfs |
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| 06:23.10 | deadcat | dpkg is on crack tonight |
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| 06:24.19 | rendie | mkv extracted streams are out of a/v sync why is this? |
| 06:24.37 | zinx | extracted? |
| 06:24.48 | rendie | yes |
| 06:24.49 | zinx | maybe your media player can't sync streams unless they're still together |
| 06:24.50 | rendie | demuxed |
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| 06:25.06 | zinx | (that's a common issue) |
| 06:25.07 | rendie | what r u talking about |
| 06:25.15 | zinx | exactly what it sounds like i'm talking about. |
| 06:25.17 | rendie | when u demux the mkv file and play the resulting streams u get out of sync problems ? but when you remux it back to mkv file, the sync problem goes away? |
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| 06:25.25 | zinx | try it |
| 06:25.39 | zinx | i'm making an educated guess here; it may be wrong, even though it's probably right |
| 06:25.52 | rendie | i dont give a crap about my media player...i want to play this thing on my divx/dvd player |
| 06:25.57 | rendie | STAND ALONE |
| 06:26.05 | deadcat | good for you |
| 06:26.09 | zinx | then transcode it to something else |
| 06:26.12 | zinx | that your dvd player can handle |
| 06:26.43 | liable | nomed^: did you say yes to devfs in menuconfig |
| 06:26.44 | rendie | r u kidding me, u know how long that would take me |
| 06:26.50 | liable | !u |
| 06:26.51 | zinx | no, i don't |
| 06:26.51 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 06:27.06 | deadcat | !r u |
| 06:27.12 | rendie | i have 100 episodes, im not wasting my time doing a reencode |
| 06:27.17 | nomed^ | liable, no .. but during boot i receive the arror about devfs |
| 06:27.27 | zinx | but you're wasting our time getting help with your DVD player in #debian? |
| 06:27.39 | rendie | yes because theres no #matroska channel |
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| 06:27.46 | nomed^ | that's because of init script used by initrd |
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| 06:27.56 | liable | nomed^: did you say yes to /proc file system |
| 06:27.59 | rue_mohr | hahah, yeea go to #dvd |
| 06:28.00 | iLLf8d | lo all anyone know of any up to date debian font howtos? |
| 06:28.02 | nomed^ | yes |
| 06:28.03 | zinx | rendie: the lack of a proper channel does not make this the right channel. |
| 06:28.13 | rendie | it does to me |
| 06:28.17 | rue_mohr | sit there and wait for someone to come ans ask a question you can answer |
| 06:28.36 | rue_mohr | a few years later soeone will come in who knows more than you, and you can ask THEM a question |
| 06:28.42 | Phated | deadcat: Who died and saddled you with the idiots? :) |
| 06:28.48 | prahal | iLLf8d: there are no , what is your question ? |
| 06:28.48 | nomed^ | liable, mount -nt devfs devfs devfs ... from init in initrd-tools |
| 06:29.09 | nomed^ | sid version also |
| 06:29.34 | rendie | so many uneducated people here |
| 06:29.48 | technos | rendie: You're going to have to do some stream processing no matter what |
| 06:29.55 | iLLf8d | prahal: just trying to get some new fonts loaded in correctly, has always seemed deb font management has been a moving target and I'm not sure what the current incarnation requires? |
| 06:29.57 | prahal | there are no up to date font howto for that matter (the upstream font guru is a DD ...) |
| 06:30.54 | prahal | iLLf8d: for kde/gnome and most desktop apps paste them in ~/.fonts/ that s all |
| 06:31.01 | technos | rendie: Perhaps you're discarding a audio stream delay or your player is simply playing the audio too fast without the proper audio stream information you lost when you demuxed it. |
| 06:31.04 | lkthomas | anyone interested to working on "get paid to surf" program of 'security' check ? :) I am planning to working on one, please pm me if you are interested |
| 06:31.07 | iLLf8d | hrm |
| 06:31.49 | lkthomas | nah |
| 06:31.50 | iLLf8d | prahal: ok will give it at a shot thanks for the info |
| 06:31.55 | lkthomas | furrywolf: I am not |
| 06:32.00 | lkthomas | furrywolf: I am just a humanbot |
| 06:32.02 | lkthomas | heh |
| 06:32.03 | furrywolf | that's what they all say. :P |
| 06:32.06 | prahal | iLLf8d: you can find interesting nearly up to date data in the X strike force Xfree FAQ |
| 06:32.19 | rendie | idiots, i found out the problem myself |
| 06:32.32 | lkthomas | furrywolf: are you interested to working with me ? |
| 06:32.38 | marcel | rendie: Good for you |
| 06:32.40 | prahal | though they are only of use if stuff are broken (shit happens) |
| 06:32.41 | furrywolf | no. :P |
| 06:32.45 | lkthomas | heh |
| 06:32.52 | rendie | mkv is superior to other containers such as AVI, so when demuxing the streams it loses some features |
| 06:32.56 | rendie | like VFR |
| 06:33.10 | zinx | why is it always sunday in #debian |
| 06:33.22 | streuner | hm |
| 06:33.23 | prahal | zinx: ? |
| 06:33.25 | lkthomas | ? |
| 06:33.28 | streuner | !listkeys sunday |
| 06:33.30 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'sunday' by key (8): sing sunday ;; permasunday ;; sunday ;; perma-sunday ;; announce sunday ;; sing permasunday ;; eternal sunday ;; announce permasunday. |
| 06:33.34 | Phated | zinx: /msg dpkg sing permasunday. |
| 06:33.42 | streuner | !eternal sunday |
| 06:33.42 | dpkg | Eternal Sunday of The Clueless Mind. Yes, folks, due to popular demand, every day is now sunday. See <sunday>. |
| 06:33.50 | Phated | zinx: Also announce permasunday, permasunday. |
| 06:33.54 | zinx | ;) |
| 06:36.38 | streuner | Phated: you have experiences with hot weather, what are doing in such cases? |
| 06:36.47 | streuner | you* |
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| 06:39.21 | lobo_ | Hello, I am having trouble installing debian on software raid, I was wondering as to how I am to partition it> |
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| 06:40.25 | liable | nomed^: http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html read the initrd bit |
| 06:41.04 | nomed^ | liable, i was reading it rigth now :DD |
| 06:41.16 | liable | hehe |
| 06:45.32 | liable | @test |
| 06:45.33 | ravenbird | Yes, liable, you're still online. |
| 06:45.55 | nikunj | am i here ? |
| 06:46.01 | liable | no |
| 06:46.06 | nikunj | okie..good. |
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| 06:46.09 | furrywolf | nikunj: no, you're not. |
| 06:46.16 | nikunj | heh, i thought so |
| 06:47.14 | nomed^ | liable, here seems to explain the problem better |
| 06:47.17 | nomed^ | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/01/msg01126.html |
| 06:47.24 | nomed^ | point (1) and (2) |
| 06:47.31 | nomed^ | i'll wait so .. |
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| 06:49.40 | Azar | which kind of TrueType fonts look nicer in X? freetype or xtt? |
| 06:50.22 | nomed^ | actually i don't like truetype :P |
| 06:50.46 | simonrvn | furrywolf: hello furball ;) |
| 06:51.01 | Azar | like I have a choice |
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| 06:51.39 | Phated | streuner: Sitting under a fan? |
| 06:51.53 | Phated | streuner: Remember: movement is heat. :) |
| 06:51.53 | streuner | Phated: that's a good idea |
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| 06:52.05 | simonrvn | hiya |
| 06:52.13 | Phated | streuner: Well, if you can find it, air-conditioning. :) |
| 06:52.24 | Phated | simonrvn! 'ello. |
| 06:52.26 | streuner | Phated: need to be busy, so i have no choice... |
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| 06:52.32 | simonrvn | :) |
| 06:52.35 | simonrvn | doing well? |
| 06:52.38 | Phated | streuner: In which case, stay calm, stay cool. :) |
| 06:52.45 | streuner | haha |
| 06:52.55 | Phated | simonrvn: Very, thanks. My class at poly are fun. |
| 06:53.04 | simonrvn | woohoo |
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| 06:53.10 | Phated | Totally. |
| 06:53.12 | simonrvn | good |
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| 06:53.29 | Phated | Yeah. How's it going with you? :) |
| 06:53.40 | Dewi | is there a way to remove a user's password so they can only use keys to login? |
| 06:53.41 | bloodwulf | i am trying to get this program working but it says "error while loading shared libraries: libctrls.so" any idea on how to fix this problem ? thanks |
| 06:53.43 | simonrvn | doing ok. really busy |
| 06:54.02 | Phated | I'll be busy starting next week, school finally starting. :) |
| 06:54.43 | simonrvn | means it can't find it |
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| 06:54.49 | simonrvn | bloodwulf: ^^^^ |
| 06:54.55 | simonrvn | Phated: hah, neat |
| 06:55.19 | Phated | simonrvn: Yeh. :) |
| 06:55.20 | furrywolf | phated: what classes? |
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| 06:55.44 | Phated | furrywolf: A number of modules in the course Computer & Network Tech. |
| 06:55.55 | mithro | hi! how do i get an older version of a debian package? |
| 06:55.59 | Azar | good night honorables and thanks for the help |
| 06:56.00 | Phated | furrywolf: I referred to the people in my class, though. |
| 06:56.03 | streuner | !sdn |
| 06:56.03 | dpkg | methinks sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. |
| 06:56.06 | deadcat | any of you download .bin movies? (= |
| 06:56.23 | Phated | deadcat: Baaad boy! *spraybottle* |
| 06:56.43 | furrywolf | phated: your class? teaching? |
| 06:56.43 | deadcat | hehe i just want to mount them. |
| 06:56.56 | Phated | furrywolf: No, studying. |
| 06:57.07 | Phated | furrywolf: IE, my classmates. |
| 06:57.23 | Phated | deadcat: Heh. I think they're images of some kind.. |
| 06:57.39 | furrywolf | Wasn't quite sure what "I referred to the people in my class" was to mean. :P |
| 06:57.39 | deadcat | Phated: ya. but i cant seem to mount them. via -o loop |
| 06:57.58 | Phated | deadcat: Try bchunk, it seems to convert them to iso. |
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| 06:58.11 | deadcat | Phated: cool |
| 06:58.13 | jm_ | deadcat: why? use mplayer, it works OK with it |
| 06:58.31 | Phated | Or, well, if it works with mplayer. XD :) |
| 06:58.41 | deadcat | jm_: mplayer lags like a whore on the desktop AND laptop |
| 06:58.47 | deadcat | jak: ya it works |
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| 06:59.51 | jm_ | deadcat: time to upgrade that 486/133 ;) |
| 06:59.53 | Solet-deb | when i installed i forgot to make a swap partition, is it too late? |
| 07:00.30 | deadcat | jm_: i have 800mhz with 1.5g ram and a 128mb nvidia card (= |
| 07:00.55 | jm_ | deadcat: 800MHz can be a tad slow for some movies, but VCD and SVCD should work |
| 07:01.27 | deadcat | jm_: xine plays fine. dont lag at all. but xine cant play this .bin file and xine suck on the desktop. |
| 07:01.59 | deadcat | Phated: bchunk wont do shit for me. it keeps returning the help menu |
| 07:02.20 | Phated | deadcat: Ugh. Keep trying mplayer, then. |
| 07:02.42 | deadcat | Phated: mplayer lags. |
| 07:03.00 | Phated | deadcat: Oh, shutup and get a better system. :P |
| 07:03.02 | deadcat | Phated: Example: bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo <- dont work. |
| 07:03.13 | Solet-deb | how do i setup a swap partition after i've already installed the os w/o reinstalling? |
| 07:03.24 | deadcat | Phated: cant afford a better laptop. (=.. i dont feel like scam'ing people |
| 07:03.37 | Phated | deadcat: Hahah. |
| 07:03.44 | jm_ | Solet-deb: man fdisk ; man mkswap ; man swapon ; man fstab |
| 07:04.15 | furrywolf | jm: I think he's asking how to shrink his ext3 partition. :) |
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| 07:05.10 | Solet-deb | furrywolf.. nah, i have 0 swap,,, hda1 is my / drive, hda2 is empty... they are roughly the same size... i wanna cut a gig out of hda2 and use it for swap |
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| 07:06.06 | deadcat | why does mplayer use so much cpu? and still lags? |
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| 07:06.23 | furrywolf | deadcat: what video output are you using? |
| 07:06.28 | deadcat | furrywolf: gl2 |
| 07:06.34 | Solet-deb | deadcat: rendering binary into video and audio isnt an easy job |
| 07:06.44 | deadcat | Solet-deb: oh. |
| 07:07.25 | Phated | deadcat: Erh, do you have both a .bin and a .cue file? |
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| 07:07.34 | deadcat | Phated: i trashed the .cue file (= |
| 07:07.40 | tarzeau | morning |
| 07:07.42 | Phated | deadcat: :| |
| 07:07.49 | tarzeau | why do you tracks .cue files? |
| 07:07.53 | deadcat | Phated: ya. i figured they are just juck. |
| 07:07.54 | tarzeau | you don't know how to burn them? |
| 07:07.58 | Solet-deb | it takes a processor 7 processes to finish a 'job', there are millions of pixels, and then you want it to change all of the pixels 60 times a second so it moves same as your monitor flashes... |
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| 07:08.01 | toonX | how is the xorg package named? i want do apt-get it! |
| 07:08.02 | Phated | deadcat: They're not. :( |
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| 07:08.12 | deadcat | toonX: not out yet. |
| 07:08.15 | Phated | toonX: It's not in Debian. /topic |
| 07:08.49 | toonX | deadcat so , basically i cant use xorg with debian woody yet , right= |
| 07:08.58 | deadcat | HAHAHAHAHAH mother fucker |
| 07:09.01 | jm_ | now that's what I call an optimist |
| 07:09.03 | deadcat | woody? HAHAHAHHAHAHA |
| 07:09.04 | Phated | HAH, WOODY? |
| 07:09.11 | deadcat | i cant even get it in sid. |
| 07:09.19 | Phated | deadcat: If you had the .cue file, bchunk might work. :) |
| 07:09.21 | deadcat | may i am laughing my ass off AT you |
| 07:09.42 | toonX | deadcat don't be a moron |
| 07:09.44 | deadcat | Phated: i am gonna get it from the server. hehe |
| 07:09.48 | deadcat | toonX: shutup. |
| 07:10.14 | deadcat | toonX: i will still be laughing 20min later hahahah |
| 07:10.18 | toonX | deadcat nevermind |
| 07:10.24 | Phated | toonX: Don't be an idiot, nothing new is ever going into woody. Ever. Wait till etch is out, then upgrade to it. |
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| 07:10.38 | Phated | deadcat: Heh, good luck. |
| 07:11.35 | toonX | Phated thanks for the advice |
| 07:11.58 | Solet-deb | when sarge is released... will etch basicly be a clone of sarge at first? |
| 07:12.20 | deadcat | toonX: please give us another one of your funny quotes |
| 07:12.23 | Phated | No idea, probably mostly similar. |
| 07:12.33 | toonX | deadcat don't have any right now :) |
| 07:12.38 | deadcat | hehe. |
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| 07:13.04 | deadcat | toonX: at first i thought you were gonna ask xorg on sid. (= |
| 07:13.37 | Solet-deb | toonx: ask im how to make a swap partition, maybe he'll give you an answer i can better understand at 2 am than the one he gave me |
| 07:13.40 | toonX | Solet-deb uhmm sarge , well i guess i cant upgrade from woody to sarge , can I ? |
| 07:14.02 | Solet-deb | yeah |
| 07:14.06 | Phated | toonX: Sarge is frozen already, nothing new will be going into it either. |
| 07:14.15 | Solet-deb | sarge is the next step from woody |
| 07:14.27 | toonX | Phated cool , so etch is the solution |
| 07:14.28 | Solet-deb | oh, true... didnt thinik of that... |
| 07:14.44 | toonX | deadcat yeah, how about that swap ? |
| 07:14.47 | Phated | toonX: Yes, but you'll have to wait for sarge to be released as stable before testing will come out. |
| 07:14.57 | Solet-deb | cant xorg just be installed alien? |
| 07:15.10 | Phated | toonX: Don't upgrade now; using "testing" in your sources.list at this point of time will result in messy fuckups when things start shifting. |
| 07:15.13 | deadcat | Solet-deb: let us know.. or come here bitch when it fuck you up |
| 07:15.13 | toonX | Phated what do you use ? |
| 07:15.16 | tra1a1a | toonX: you don't get it, do you? |
| 07:15.19 | Phated | toonX: Sid. |
| 07:15.42 | toonX | tra1a1a actually with all these versions i dont |
| 07:15.42 | Phated | toonX: Then sarge is released, change your sources.list to etch, and then upgrade. |
| 07:15.49 | Solet-deb | deadcat: sry.... mon faux |
| 07:15.55 | Phated | Whew, woody -> etch, that should be fun. |
| 07:16.15 | Guerin | Phated: won't be no different than woody->sarge |
| 07:16.28 | tra1a1a | toonX: come back, when you have read something from the debian.org documents and when you have real questions |
| 07:16.39 | Phated | Barrel of monkeys! |
| 07:16.51 | toonX | tra1a1a it's not like you guys have anything better to do , do you |
| 07:16.53 | Solet-deb | phated: i was thinking that or alll of the other soldiers |
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| 07:17.00 | Phated | Guerin: Really? Ah well. |
| 07:17.05 | Guerin | Solet-deb: heat-death of the universe will happen way before that |
| 07:17.08 | tra1a1a | !fuck toonX |
| 07:17.17 | deadcat | or a new toy story movie |
| 07:17.22 | Phated | Solet-deb: Or the LGMs, or the people, or, well, the list goes on, eh. And the sheep, can't forget the sheep. |
| 07:17.29 | deadcat | havent they used that space dude yet? |
| 07:17.39 | toonX | tra1a1a same to you buddy |
| 07:17.42 | Phated | Buzz? He was the first! |
| 07:17.46 | deadcat | oh |
| 07:17.49 | Phated | Have they used rex? |
| 07:17.50 | deadcat | thats the dude's name? |
| 07:17.54 | Solet-deb | phated: only you would thinki of the sheep :P |
| 07:17.55 | deadcat | ya. |
| 07:17.57 | Phated | Buzz Lightyear. |
| 07:18.05 | Solet-deb | dpkg fuck s/comes/cums/ |
| 07:18.06 | jm_ | !release names |
| 07:18.07 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-08-28), Potato(2.2; 2001-04-17[?]), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19). The next release will be Sarge. You can call Sarge+1 "Etch". See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
| 07:18.14 | Phated | Solet-deb: Only because they aren't goats, you'd all know them, then. |
| 07:18.21 | Solet-deb | hrm that didnt work |
| 07:18.26 | Solet-deb | whats the fuckin syntax to fix that |
| 07:18.34 | deadcat | whats sarge+2? |
| 07:18.35 | toonX | tra1a1a get lost |
| 07:18.45 | Phated | Solet-deb: OY. Leave it alone. "cums" is for illiterate porn writers. |
| 07:18.46 | deadcat | when they run out of name. they gonna use sid (= |
| 07:18.58 | Phated | Eeeep. |
| 07:19.09 | deadcat | Phated: HAHAHA. |
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| 07:19.21 | Phated | deadcat: What? |
| 07:19.30 | deadcat | the cums shit (= |
| 07:19.37 | Phated | Heh. |
| 07:20.04 | deadcat | Phated: i am not illiterate. just lazy (= |
| 07:20.20 | Phated | deadcat: You're a porn writer? |
| 07:20.24 | deadcat | hahah |
| 07:20.35 | Phated | Oh, good LORD, and I thought it was only -ot that always came back to sex in a conversation. |
| 07:21.07 | deadcat | whats -ot? |
| 07:21.21 | Phated | If I told you, I'd have to kill you. |
| 07:21.26 | furrywolf | this channel seems to talk about sex often. :P |
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| 07:21.33 | deadcat | forget it. dont feel like dying for that. |
| 07:21.40 | jm_ | only when certain individuals are involved |
| 07:21.41 | Solet-deb | !furry's dirty hobby |
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| 07:21.49 | Solet-deb | er |
| 07:21.54 | Solet-deb | !furry'wolfs dirty hobby |
| 07:22.04 | EvanCarroll | hrm i thought dpkg was blootbot |
| 07:22.04 | Solet-deb | hahaha |
| 07:22.12 | VoX | how do i go about ghosting my /dev/hda to a new hd, and then boot off the new hd? |
| 07:22.13 | Solet-deb | !furrywolf's dirty hobby |
| 07:22.13 | dpkg | somebody said furrywolf's dirty hobby was http://www.peselectro.com/PESMainGreetingsPage.asp |
| 07:22.15 | furrywolf | evan: it is. |
| 07:22.18 | Solet-deb | there we go :P |
| 07:22.22 | jm_ | VoX: read hard disk upgrade mini howto |
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| 07:22.30 | EvanCarroll | furrywolf: no it isn't. the codebase might be the same the modules are different |
| 07:22.37 | VoX | jm_: where at? |
| 07:22.45 | slugbug | has anyone here ever tried to build a cross-compiler for i486-linux on a Mac OS X machine? |
| 07:22.48 | furrywolf | !what are you? |
| 07:22.48 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 07:22.49 | Phated | EvanCarroll: It has been extensicely hacked upon by dondelelcaro, I believe. |
| 07:22.55 | jm_ | VoX: the regular site/package(s) with howto-s |
| 07:23.16 | deadcat | Phated: holy shit. .cue is doing its thing |
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| 07:23.30 | Phated | deadcat: Hahah! bchunk DOES work! :) |
| 07:23.38 | deadcat | Phated: yay |
| 07:23.38 | Phated | !win deadcat |
| 07:23.39 | dpkg | Congratulations, deadcat! You have won a one way ticket to Cleveland! |
| 07:23.42 | EvanCarroll | Phated: maybe I want to help him with the bot, i was going to examine it some more, but it seems to have a few beneficial changes i wonder why dondelelcaro didn't give the code back |
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| 07:23.57 | Phated | EvanCarroll: He might have, I've no idea, speak with him about it. |
| 07:23.58 | deadcat | i didnt win the presidential race? |
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| 07:24.06 | Phated | deadcat: Hush, I won that some time ago. |
| 07:24.18 | seven_six_two | !lesbian donkey-fish |
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| 07:24.35 | s-toned | dhclient seemed to delete the search and domain entries in resolv.conf, so I substituted it successfully by dhclient3 |
| 07:24.43 | EvanCarroll | Phated: take for instance piglatin, the most important feature of the bot lol, quEAG shuld produce something far different than QuEAG, and yet dondels version is changed =/ |
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| 07:25.04 | s-toned | but now dhclient shows the same behaviour as dhclient weeks ago |
| 07:25.10 | EvanCarroll | but it isn't without flaw. |
| 07:25.19 | Phated | EvanCarroll: Yeah, sure. Pig latin. |
| 07:25.28 | s-toned | is there anything to config about it? |
| 07:25.33 | Solet-deb | s-toned: dh3client or whatever its called is better :) |
| 07:25.46 | furrywolf | hrmm, no ultra harness 2000s listed cheaply at the moment. oh well. |
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| 07:26.01 | Guerin | EvanCarroll: you really should stop causing dpkg to get booted |
| 07:26.04 | glick | excuse me i have a question is it a known issue that many external firewire drives dont work correctly when transfering large amounts of data, crashing or causing the kernel to seemingly freeze waiting for them because of faulty controller chips ? |
| 07:26.27 | Solet-deb | ywhay ouldway any one arecay about igpay-atinlay? |
| 07:26.59 | EvanCarroll | Guerin: I wanted to pinpoint the bug |
| 07:27.02 | Phated | Solet-deb: "any-hay one-hay about-hay". |
| 07:27.08 | s-toned | Solet-deb: dhclient3, and yes, it was better than dhclient, but not anymore... |
| 07:27.16 | EvanCarroll | !piglatin Solet-deb: because it is the most important thing anyway |
| 07:27.18 | dpkg | Olet-debsay: ecausebay itway isway ethay ostmay importantway ingthay anywayway |
| 07:27.22 | Solet-deb | phated no no and no google piglatin |
| 07:27.22 | furrywolf | glick: you might be better of searching the lkml archives |
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| 07:27.28 | Guerin | EvanCarroll: you've done so a few times. |
| 07:27.35 | furrywolf | s/of/off |
| 07:27.40 | glick | furrywolf, what are the lkml archives? |
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| 07:28.16 | furrywolf | linux kernel mailing list. |
| 07:28.18 | Guerin | !fgi glick what+are+the+lkml+archives |
| 07:28.19 | dpkg | glick: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=what+are+the+lkml+archives |
| 07:28.33 | seven_six_two | hahahaha |
| 07:28.39 | Solet-deb | i checked a week ago and fuckinggoogleit.com was down :( |
| 07:29.10 | Solet-deb | and omg just to disprove me its back up |
| 07:29.25 | Phated | No respectable website would stay down for a whole week. |
| 07:29.28 | glick | furrywolf, god it will take me forever to go through all that |
| 07:29.45 | Guerin | glick: there's this great thing called 'searching' |
| 07:29.50 | jm_ | glick: not if you limit your search to firewire |
| 07:29.51 | Guerin | google does it quite well. |
| 07:29.54 | furrywolf | glick: note the word "search". |
| 07:30.40 | Solet-deb | phated: i was worried that it was gone for good |
| 07:30.45 | Solet-deb | it was down 2 days in a row |
| 07:30.47 | Phated | Pshaw. |
| 07:31.02 | Phated | Doesn't fgi just redirect to google, anyway? |
| 07:31.13 | Guerin | yes |
| 07:31.16 | zinx | Phated: unless you go to the main page |
| 07:31.17 | jm_ | that's the idea |
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| 07:31.33 | Solet-deb | phated: only when $_GET params are passed |
| 07:31.46 | Phated | I see. |
| 07:32.16 | Solet-deb | http://justfuckinggoogleit.com will sit there all day |
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| 07:32.26 | Solet-deb | i like the mail list easteregg |
| 07:32.28 | Solet-deb | :P |
| 07:32.32 | Solet-deb | its funny shit |
| 07:32.36 | furrywolf | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4793&item=5585070531&rd=1 <== not a bad price |
| 07:33.05 | marcel | 08:18 < deadcat> nomed^: why cant you grep it |
| 07:33.05 | marcel | 08:19 < nomed^> deadcat, i feel i didn't explain how i should so |
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| 07:33.27 | marcel | whoops that was my mouse :P |
| 07:33.38 | Solet-deb | furrywolf logout so the rest of us can look at it |
| 07:33.44 | nomed^ | gh |
| 07:33.47 | Solet-deb | thats your secure url... it keeps asking me to login |
| 07:33.56 | furrywolf | solet-deb: then log in? |
| 07:34.13 | Solet-deb | that requires remembering what email addy i used |
| 07:34.14 | Phated | FFS, all it's going to be is some deviant sex toy. Do you really need to see it? |
| 07:34.23 | furrywolf | adult items always require you to log in. |
| 07:34.32 | Solet-deb | oooohhhhh |
| 07:34.34 | Solet-deb | didnt know that |
| 07:34.42 | Solet-deb | used sex toys on the net.... |
| 07:34.52 | Solet-deb | some how that screams VD ALERT |
| 07:34.55 | Phated | Unsanitary, to say the least. |
| 07:35.08 | furrywolf | phated: strap-ons aren't deviant. :P |
| 07:35.20 | furrywolf | heh. I've never seen a used toy for sale, and hope I never do. :P |
| 07:35.29 | Phated | Hahahaha. |
| 07:35.40 | Phated | Pfft. Straightness is overrated. |
| 07:35.42 | xophEr | where do I configure the default refresh rate for a specific resolution in X? |
| 07:35.43 | Solet-deb | cause if he's gay and cute i have a best freind thats gay and bitchy |
| 07:35.45 | Gothfunc | eBay has made a policy decision not to allow access to the Mature Audiences category outside the US. |
| 07:35.45 | Gothfunc | This restriction applies to browsing, bidding and selling. |
| 07:36.13 | Gothfunc | :/ |
| 07:36.17 | furrywolf | gothfunc: blah |
| 07:36.23 | seven_six_two | aw really? i can't by used sextoys from canada? |
| 07:36.32 | lobo_ | thats rather screwy |
| 07:36.40 | Phated | I'm sure canada have their own supply. |
| 07:36.44 | furrywolf | gothfunc: it's an Ultra Harness 2000 Female, price is $39.95. google should be able to find photos if you want to see what it is. |
| 07:36.47 | zinx | you can buy used condoms from amazon.com |
| 07:36.47 | tra1a1a | xophEr: the modline in xconfig file. have a look at xvidmode to and *READ* the warning |
| 07:36.48 | seven_six_two | i want dirt foreign toys |
| 07:36.58 | furrywolf | zinx: you can buy sex toys from amazon |
| 07:37.02 | Gothfunc | aha furry :P |
| 07:37.05 | Phated | Then the US is not precisely the place you should look. |
| 07:37.13 | Guerin | seven_six_two: i'll ship you some dirty korean toys |
| 07:37.17 | seven_six_two | eastern europe then |
| 07:37.19 | Phated | Try... Korea! Guerin should be able to give you a good idea. |
| 07:37.19 | Phated | Heh. |
| 07:37.26 | Guerin | seven_six_two: how dirty do you want me to get them? |
| 07:37.40 | furrywolf | most of the toys on ebay are either online dealers, or closeouts/overstock/etc... for example, the auction I pasted has 21 of the strap-ons available. |
| 07:37.41 | Solet-deb | if i buy anything from korea i want it to have to be shipped in a lead box :) |
| 07:37.48 | xophEr | tra1a1a, where do I find this xconfig file? |
| 07:38.10 | seven_six_two | give it to the local toothless leper prostitute for a bit |
| 07:38.13 | furrywolf | "<Phated> Pfft. Straightness is overrated." perhaps, but I do seem to be straight. :) |
| 07:38.13 | Phated | Solet-deb: Your shipping fees are going to be more expensive than the stupid thing itself. |
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| 07:38.23 | Phated | Precisely my point. |
| 07:38.34 | Guerin | can someone let me know when this channel became #sex-toys-on-ebay-prace-your-bets!11 |
| 07:38.37 | Guerin | ? |
| 07:38.47 | Phated | When furrywolf pasted his link. |
| 07:38.47 | Solet-deb | Xopher: /etc/X11/XFree86Config-4 ??? |
| 07:38.52 | tra1a1a | xophEr: it's the X configuration file, but given the question you shouldn't be touching it right now. |
| 07:39.06 | Guerin | seven_six_two: don't have one of those, but I have a dog farm nearby... that's pretty filtheh. |
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| 07:39.16 | Guerin | !drxx xophEr |
| 07:39.17 | dpkg | xophEr: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 07:39.26 | furrywolf | guerin: dunno, but I seem to remember the first time I joined the channel people were discussing anal sex in some form or another. |
| 07:39.41 | Phated | Guerin: Dude. You need to get off this dog thing. :) |
| 07:39.45 | Guerin | furrywolf: it happens from time to time, but typically not with commercial liks. |
| 07:39.48 | Guerin | or links |
| 07:39.49 | Guerin | hah |
| 07:39.51 | xophEr | tra1a1a, ok, which one should I be touching? . |
| 07:39.56 | Phated | Hear hear. |
| 07:40.04 | Guerin | liks is a strip club in my old city, but that was an honest typo |
| 07:40.17 | furrywolf | xopher: best out-of-context quote of the day. :P |
| 07:40.19 | Guerin | Phated: i was never on any dog thing |
| 07:40.24 | xophEr | :) |
| 07:40.24 | Phated | Commercial strip clubs are nice. |
| 07:40.29 | Phated | Guerin: You were on dog nipples! |
| 07:40.32 | Guerin | i disagree |
| 07:40.41 | Guerin | Phated: they were foisted upon me |
| 07:40.49 | Phated | Guerin: Dog nipples were on you! |
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| 07:40.56 | Guerin | in me |
| 07:40.57 | Phated | XD |
| 07:40.58 | Guerin | ymmeh |
| 07:41.05 | Solet-deb | furrywolf: is it cause none of the strippers are 'furries' there? |
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| 07:41.11 | Phated | Guerin: Did they delivered the promised night powah? |
| 07:41.24 | technos | Hmm.. Wander out for a coffee, wander back in and it's strip clubs, dog nipples, and korean vibrators wrapped in lead? Hmm. |
| 07:45.38 | Guerin | Phated: didn't notice any difference, tbh |
| 07:45.38 | furrywolf | solet: because it's boring? "oh, look, dancing naked people, alcohol, and crappy food". |
| 07:45.38 | Phated | Guerin: Heh. |
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| 07:45.38 | Solet-deb | furrywolf: ok fine then... ignor ethe furry joke...... |
| 07:45.38 | tarzeau | takatumi! |
| 07:45.38 | Guerin | furrywolf: but if they were asian schoolgirls dressed up like anime vixens... |
| 07:45.38 | tra1a1a | xophEr: you should be reading tldp.org and my fucking answers |
| 07:45.38 | Solet-deb | *gasms* |
| 07:45.38 | furrywolf | guerin: it would still be boring. |
| 07:45.38 | Phated | Guerin: That have those, eh? |
| 07:45.39 | Guerin | Phated: you's sentence sense not making |
| 07:45.39 | Solet-deb | lol |
| 07:45.39 | Phated | Guerin: They have strip clubs with asian schoolgirls dressed up like anime vixens? |
| 07:45.39 | H2OyJaBoN | some repositor of sarge for downlaod amule? |
| 07:45.39 | Guerin | the hell I know |
| 07:45.39 | furrywolf | I don't know if they do or not, but my wager would be on "yes". |
| 07:45.39 | Guerin | i don't do strip clubs, they bore the shit outta me |
| 07:45.39 | Guerin | i bet they have them in .jp |
| 07:45.39 | tra1a1a | xophEr: the short answer anywas - it's not as easy as you might thing to modify the refresh rates in X |
| 07:45.39 | Phated | Yes, Korean porn dubben in Chinese is so much more fun. :) |
| 07:45.39 | Guerin | dunno about korea, but probably. |
| 07:45.39 | furrywolf | porn is also boring. :P |
| 07:45.39 | VoX | jm_: what about using something like norton ghost? |
| 07:45.39 | Guerin | korean porn is the boringest porn in the world |
| 07:45.39 | Guerin | it wouldn't even qualify as porn in most countries |
| 07:45.39 | lobo_ | eastern european porn++ |
| 07:45.39 | Guerin | furrywolf: yeah, i mostly agree. |
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| 07:45.39 | tarzeau | dpkg nis is also http://www.levenez.com/NeXTSTEP/Xedoc.gif |
| 07:45.39 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 07:45.39 | tarzeau | !nis |
| 07:45.40 | dpkg | hmm... nis is the Network Information System. It can be used to distribute files across networks. It is commonly used to maintain staff directories and files like /etc/group. Many sysadmins hate it because it is insecure. See also NFS.. Network Information Service, or http://www.levenez.com/NeXTSTEP/Xedoc.gif |
| 07:45.40 | Phated | Guerin: s/fun/funny/ , then. :) |
| 07:45.40 | jm_ | VoX: look at tools like system imager |
| 07:45.40 | Guerin | did I tell y'all about the time we were staying in a motel in korea - a pretty flash one - and turned on the porn channel, and found porn which was filmed IN THE SAME ROOM WE WERE IN |
| 07:45.40 | Guerin | ? |
| 07:45.40 | Phated | HAHAHAHA |
| 07:45.40 | Guerin | that was a freaky moment |
| 07:45.40 | Phated | No, you didn't. |
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| 07:45.40 | Phated | Until now, anyway. |
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| 07:45.46 | furrywolf | and it didn't happen, either. :P |
| 07:46.05 | Guerin | furrywolf: ? |
| 07:50.45 | Guerin | oh really. |
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| 07:50.45 | Guerin | the thing about korean porn is that it's ALL shot in love motels. |
| 07:50.45 | Phated | First I've heard of it. |
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| 07:50.45 | furrywolf | welp, tired wolfy needs sleep... almost 1am. |
| 07:50.45 | Guerin | whelp? |
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| 07:50.45 | furrywolf | I'll rant about how strip clubs just further objectification of women tomorrow. :P |
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| 07:50.46 | Guerin | furrywolf: i'll be sure and try real hard to hear something I haven't before. |
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| 07:50.46 | rixth | How can one open .wps (MS Works) documents in OpenOffice? |
| 07:50.46 | Guerin | rixth: you poor bastard. |
| 07:50.46 | reamtS | What is the package for 'import' which takes screenshot of the desktop? |
| 07:50.46 | Guerin | reamtS: imagmagick |
| 07:50.46 | Guerin | reamtS: imagemagick |
| 07:50.47 | rixth | Guerin, haha. Seriously now. |
| 07:50.47 | KerPlunk | reamtS: use scrot |
| 07:50.47 | KerPlunk | way better |
| 07:50.47 | Guerin | rixth: i have no idea, sorry. I haven't seen one of those since about 1996 |
| 07:50.47 | reamtS | Guerin: thx |
| 07:50.47 | KerPlunk | smaller/faster |
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| 07:50.56 | reamtS | KerPlunk: nice =) |
| 07:51.05 | KerPlunk | SCReen shOT |
| 07:51.15 | KerPlunk | SCReen shOT User Management |
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| 07:53.06 | VoX | jm_: i dont think systemimager will work they way i need |
| 07:53.26 | VoX | jm_ i have access to norton ghost, should i just use that? |
| 07:54.33 | Guerin | !fuck larry mcvoy |
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| 07:56.14 | KerPlunk | !start a distro war |
| 07:56.14 | dpkg | Progeny is stupid! |
| 07:56.20 | KerPlunk | !start a browser war |
| 07:56.21 | dpkg | IE is more user-friendly than Konqueror! |
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| 07:56.34 | Guerin | fuck daniel lyons too |
| 07:56.41 | strk | what was the printcap command to avoid staircase output ? |
| 07:56.53 | Guerin | though i'm not sure what to expect from some twat writing for Forbes magazine |
| 07:57.11 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Not much? |
| 07:57.28 | strk | I'm using lpd from Freebsd, sending job to a remote printer, and I get staricase |
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| 07:57.44 | jm_ | VoX: try it |
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| 07:58.12 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: more than i evidently should have, though. |
| 07:58.48 | rixth | Okay. If I can have ll as a password, why the hell can't I have r56wok? |
| 07:59.08 | VoX | rixth: monkies |
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| 07:59.37 | tra1a1a | !be a password barbie |
| 07:59.38 | dpkg | Aww, password is hard! Let's go shopping, tra1a1a |
| 07:59.46 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Yeah. I keep making that mistake myself. |
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| 08:01.15 | Guerin | rixth: r56wok is a shitty password anyway |
| 08:01.23 | Guerin | 1l is worse, of course |
| 08:01.37 | silverton | Is there a samba config utility that I can run? |
| 08:01.44 | deadcat | Phated: fuck it. they dont mount either. |
| 08:02.16 | tra1a1a | haaaa :) |
| 08:02.20 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: .bin files? |
| 08:02.24 | rixth | That wasn't my password. Just an example |
| 08:02.29 | rixth | How is it shitty? |
| 08:02.33 | jim | silverton: there is a book called "Using Samba" that could be downloaded |
| 08:02.37 | rixth | Better than a word in the dictionary |
| 08:02.38 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: ya. |
| 08:02.41 | silverton | =-o! |
| 08:02.52 | Guerin | rixth: it's 6 characters long, single-case, with no topline |
| 08:03.00 | Guerin | rixth: true. |
| 08:03.07 | tra1a1a | !fig rixth good+password+howto |
| 08:03.08 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: Just burn the damn things to a CD. I mean they run all of what .us $.25 these days. |
| 08:03.18 | tra1a1a | !fgi rixth good+password+howto |
| 08:03.18 | dpkg | rixth: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=good+password+howto |
| 08:03.35 | Guerin | i use the 'line of a poem' method, typically |
| 08:03.48 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: i dont want to. just freakin ROTS. |
| 08:03.50 | rixth | Topline? |
| 08:03.55 | Guerin | ri |
| 08:04.02 | Guerin | rixth: !@#$%^&*()_+ |
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| 08:04.46 | rixth | It's not like my computer stores military secrets. |
| 08:05.10 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: Then find one of the 3.567 million torrent sites that has it as a xvid. |
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| 08:05.39 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: Or go to a cinema. Or spend the rest of the night fucking around with .bin files. :P |
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| 08:05.49 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: How you been other than .bin madness? |
| 08:05.57 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: i've seen it. just want to use xine on the laptop with it |
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| 08:06.16 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: cool. just finished finals on monday. hehehe. |
| 08:06.27 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: Coolness. |
| 08:06.46 | Guerin | rixth: but unless you're on dial, it does store the ability to sent 1,000,000 spams per hour |
| 08:06.48 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: also got my ibook back from the shop 2 weeks ago. they replaced my logicboard. free. and found out i have applecare on this thing till aug 2006 (= lucky me |
| 08:06.48 | rixth | (Just an example) jFk.89#11 Is that better? |
| 08:06.58 | Guerin | yeah, much better |
| 08:07.13 | rixth | The funny thing is, It's let me set ll as a password. |
| 08:07.18 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: Get a real laptop. :P |
| 08:07.22 | jethro | rixth: how bout you go to the website pointed earlier by tra1a1a ? |
| 08:07.26 | Guerin | unless 89 and 11 are meaningful to people who know you, for some reason |
| 08:07.40 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: dude. this baby rocks. heheh. sleeps like a whore |
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| 08:08.13 | rixth | jethro, I did. Side stepped the stupid fgi bit. |
| 08:08.18 | rixth | http://geodsoft.com/howto/password/password_advice.htm |
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| 08:08.35 | jethro | rixth: if one need to point you to fgi, it's not that stupid and pointless |
| 08:09.03 | Phated | deadcat: Well, fuck it. |
| 08:09.11 | rixth | Why not just give the Google link. |
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| 08:09.33 | jethro | !qotd51 |
| 08:09.33 | dpkg | <Caelum> arguing is pointless, stupid people will remain stupid |
| 08:09.34 | Guerin | why should we google for you? |
| 08:10.00 | Guerin | rixth: how's the home country, anyway? |
| 08:10.09 | tra1a1a | ignore him, guys, I already did and I feel much better now |
| 08:10.35 | rixth | Guerin, New Zealand? |
| 08:10.42 | Guerin | rixth: yeah |
| 08:11.05 | rixth | rixth, Torrential floods. Failing harddrives and mid year exams. |
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| 08:11.26 | Phated | Sound like me last year. |
| 08:11.37 | Guerin | rixth: i heard about that shit up north |
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| 08:11.51 | Guerin | rixth: where are you at, anyway? |
| 08:12.31 | rixth | Masterton, are you in NZ? |
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| 08:13.01 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 08:13.01 | dpkg | i heard debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
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| 08:13.24 | Guerin | rixth: nope, I wish. I'm in korea, but I'm from wanganui, via wellington. |
| 08:13.34 | tarzeau | Guerin: you're like catching up on abrotman |
| 08:13.44 | rixth | Someone needs to start a LUG in my area. But then again, there's probably only about 5 people in this damn hick town that use Linux. Let alone Debian based distros. |
| 08:13.45 | Guerin | rixth: did you guys get hit by the february floods or something? |
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| 08:14.00 | Guerin | tarzeau: i've had a lot of my hours cancelled lately (on full pay :) |
| 08:14.01 | tarzeau | rixth: what about you do it? |
| 08:14.09 | tarzeau | rixth: UBUNTO maybe? |
| 08:14.17 | Guerin | masterton is pop: 15,000 or so |
| 08:14.22 | rixth | Guerin, ah yes, those were really bad. There's been bad ones up in Tauranga, many house have to be demolished. |
| 08:14.25 | Guerin | join one of the wellington lugs |
| 08:14.29 | tarzeau | Guerin: did i ask you if you'd like a Debian GNU/kFreeBSD ? |
| 08:14.48 | rixth | To far to travel really, I've only got my leaner liscense. |
| 08:14.52 | Guerin | tarzeau: you didn't, but I don't really have a computer to run it on as yet. Is it shaping up a bit? |
| 08:14.53 | rixth | (I can never spell that...) |
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| 08:15.14 | Guerin | rixth: trainage! |
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| 08:15.23 | tarzeau | Guerin: yes very good, it needs however people that say "i want this" so debian can have it officially: http://wiki.debian.net/?kfreebsdgnu |
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| 08:15.32 | Guerin | You need a license for living out there, but rimutaka hill is a killah |
| 08:15.39 | tarzeau | Guerin: only 31 more |
| 08:15.42 | wishes | heya, can anyone tell me what might be causing the following error init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl |
| 08:15.42 | rixth | With my computer? Meh. Lol. People know I'm a geek, but not a nerd, haha. |
| 08:15.48 | wishes | trying to reboot |
| 08:16.09 | deadcat | rixth: how so? |
| 08:16.41 | Guerin | buy an old laptop on trademe... I got mine in '01 for $900 and it's kicked arse in five countries :) |
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| 08:17.00 | Guerin | but yeah, i don't tend to do lugs |
| 08:17.11 | rixth | There's being a geek who knows about computers, then there's the nerd who takes their computer place. Laptops are fine but too pricey |
| 08:17.28 | Guerin | people who are nice on irc can be really different in real life... |
| 08:17.33 | deadcat | nerds are smart. |
| 08:17.42 | Guerin | nerds are tang |
| 08:17.43 | Guerin | y |
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| 08:18.05 | kensuke | !dpkg nerd |
| 08:18.05 | dpkg | nerd is probably a geek who lacks the social skills to find a mate. a type of candy |
| 08:18.18 | kensuke | !dpkg geek |
| 08:18.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, geek is a circus performer who bites heads off of nevyns, or a chicken who performs the circus off of byte headers, or what GenericBoy is, and most other people in this channel, if they wish to be so called, or substract the sum of all boyfriends/girlfriends you have had from the number of computers you've ever owned. if the number is positive you're a geek. |
| 08:18.46 | Guerin | haha |
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| 08:19.08 | wishes | nm i know what the problem is |
| 08:19.16 | Guerin | that doesn't count for people who've had the same girlfriend since shortly after they got their first computer |
| 08:19.16 | deadcat | i dont do lugs. but i do go to a cabal (= |
| 08:19.18 | wishes | having the console on serial :/ |
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| 08:20.09 | kensuke | Guerin ... Im not sure that holds mate :-) |
| 08:20.37 | jim | it depends on how hot she is and how much you had to do to get her |
| 08:21.07 | jim | hotter makes it go more negative, effort makes it go the other way :) |
| 08:21.09 | Guerin | hah |
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| 08:21.31 | wishes | Guerin, you from nz? |
| 08:21.40 | Guerin | wishes: I am. |
| 08:21.49 | wishes | where bouts? |
| 08:21.49 | kensuke | lol, some how we have to factor in how "hot" your computer is... and how much you had to do to get it :-) |
| 08:21.58 | kensuke | notice I said it ... not her :) |
| 08:22.06 | SlayerXP | kensuke: http://www.amibiosornot.com/ |
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| 08:22.34 | wishes | yeah im sure my computer is male ;] |
| 08:22.37 | jim | kensuke: anyone who would try to calculate those particular factors is autmoatically a geek :) |
| 08:22.40 | kensuke | HEHEHE |
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| 08:22.46 | Guerin | wishes: from wanganui, via wellington. |
| 08:22.52 | bloodwulf | hey what does this error mean: "can not open shared object file" ? |
| 08:22.57 | kensuke | AMIBIOSORNOT ROCKS !! that just made my day |
| 08:23.02 | Guerin | wishes: read: B&R in Nui, uni and lived in Welli |
| 08:23.05 | wishes | Guerin, oh aye, im from auckland, but born and raised in welly |
| 08:23.24 | tra1a1a | !tell bloodwulf about smart questions |
| 08:23.26 | tarzeau | kensuke: also check, www.linuks.mine.nu/ree/ |
| 08:23.46 | jim | bloodwulf: there's a shared thing that can't be opened alone.... |
| 08:23.51 | Guerin | wishes: most of the NZers I seem to run into are from fucking Canterbury |
| 08:24.06 | jim | it could be a file, or maybe a sawblade... |
| 08:24.15 | bloodwulf | jim how would i go about resolving that |
| 08:24.44 | Guerin | wishes: you have a quality hostmask. |
| 08:24.57 | jim | gather more of what you know about the situation and throw it onto the channel... /msg dpkg sicco |
| 08:25.05 | toonX | aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade ! hope that all will end just fine ! im goin for sarge :) |
| 08:25.16 | plaz | It's a dirty lie. Wishes uses fedora. :\ |
| 08:25.19 | jonm | sarge/exim4 - why does "mail root" ignore "/etc/aliases" which includes "root: somebody@someaddress.com" and instead send the mail to "root@$(cat /etc/mailname)" ? |
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| 08:25.28 | Guerin | toonX: never use --with-depends with dist-upgrade |
| 08:25.30 | Guerin | EVER |
| 08:25.35 | Guerin | err |
| 08:25.39 | bloodwulf | !tell bloodwulf about smart questions |
| 08:25.39 | Guerin | --with-recommends, either |
| 08:25.50 | toonX | Guerin why? |
| 08:25.54 | bloodwulf | !tell tra1a1a about smart questions |
| 08:25.58 | Guerin | plaz: better fedora than yoper, i'm sad to say. |
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| 08:26.06 | Guerin | toonX: more stuff to break. |
| 08:26.08 | jim | if the thing is a file, it could scratch the surface of your computer... if it's a sawblade, be very careful when handling it... maybe the fact it can't be opened is a good thing... |
| 08:26.16 | deadcat | bloodwulf: he has funny/stupid questions (= i mean really funny |
| 08:26.19 | plaz | Guerin - Haven't touched yoper .. is it not that great? |
| 08:26.24 | toonX | Guerin but! but! that's what the manual said |
| 08:26.32 | Guerin | plaz: it's debian for gentoobies. |
| 08:26.37 | Guerin | toonX: eh |
| 08:26.41 | Guerin | toonX: which manual? |
| 08:26.48 | plaz | Oh, right. :) |
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| 08:27.15 | toonX | Guerin from debian.org , upgrading from woody to sarge |
| 08:27.23 | Guerin | plaz: it's debian-based, but breaks easily and is optiminiserated out the arsehole. |
| 08:27.24 | jim | bloodwulf, obviously we're pulling your leg a bit... |
| 08:27.29 | plaz | wishies! :D |
| 08:27.37 | wishes | heh weird seeing you with that nick again :D |
| 08:27.43 | sypher | hey guys, i need to write a pcap filter rule ... where i can find infoes on how to write pcap rules ? |
| 08:27.45 | sypher | someone can help ? |
| 08:27.45 | wishes | weird and good! |
| 08:27.47 | plaz | Guerin - Ahh, true true |
| 08:27.56 | wishes | Guerin, the domain was sitting unused |
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| 08:28.01 | plaz | wishes - heh yeah .. I still type 'BitchX plaz blah blah' without thinking about it |
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| 08:28.23 | tra1a1a | !fgi plaz pcap+howto |
| 08:28.23 | dpkg | plaz: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=pcap+howto |
| 08:28.23 | wishes | and i use emacsOS |
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| 08:28.23 | jim | but... I'm perfectly serious about the lack of info in your question... think about your situation and what about it you haven't told here, and do so |
| 08:28.23 | Guerin | wishes: a lot of .geek.nz is. My mate has fullon.geek.nz |
| 08:28.23 | wishes | for the record |
| 08:28.31 | toonX | Guerin now, sarge has xorg , right? |
| 08:28.32 | bbrazil | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:28.39 | Guerin | toonX: negatory |
| 08:28.51 | bbrazil | sypher: *tcpdump |
| 08:28.56 | toonX | Guerin lol! really? |
| 08:28.56 | wishes | Guerin, ahh im a domain whore |
| 08:29.00 | wishes | ask plaz |
| 08:29.02 | sypher | bbrazil, ok thanks ill search there |
| 08:29.09 | tarzeau | wishes: what's your hostname? |
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| 08:29.14 | wishes | whois me |
| 08:29.21 | plaz | haha .. yeah, wishes owns half of .nz ;) |
| 08:29.27 | tarzeau | toonX: no debian doesn't have xorg |
| 08:29.28 | wishes | i figure if the isp is dumb enough to give us a static ip ... |
| 08:29.38 | toonX | Guerin at least a newer version of XFree86? to support my ATI 9200 ? |
| 08:29.40 | wishes | may as well get a semi decent revsere/forward |
| 08:29.42 | plaz | Except wishes.geek.nz.... |
| 08:29.54 | wishes | plaz, i have female.geek.nz :D |
| 08:30.01 | plaz | I wonder if iserve would set my reverse for me |
| 08:30.09 | tarzeau | wishes: is there free .nz dns available? |
| 08:30.13 | wishes | mm i dunno anyone at iserve to bribe |
| 08:30.15 | Guerin | toonX: i don't know about specific ati stuff, sorry. |
| 08:30.21 | wishes | tarzeau, yeah just ask mates |
| 08:30.22 | wishes | lol |
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| 08:30.30 | wishes | dns yes, domains not |
| 08:30.36 | Guerin | toonX: you're right, though - that IS in the release notes, but damn, that's stupid. |
| 08:30.36 | tarzeau | wishes: sub domains? |
| 08:30.39 | wishes | i run my own server so i do my own dns |
| 08:30.51 | tarzeau | wishes: i don't have fixed ip addresses |
| 08:30.53 | plaz | I keep forgetting to get my domains transferred to work .. it'd make them a little bit cheaper |
| 08:30.54 | wishes | ahh |
| 08:30.59 | wishes | you want dyndns like stuff |
| 08:31.01 | plaz | and I wouldn't need to bother remembering to renew them :o |
| 08:31.04 | tarzeau | wishes: yeah |
| 08:31.07 | wishes | i did have that setup but after the hdd loss |
| 08:31.09 | toonX | Guerin well, i don't know if i can do anything about it now! it's ON! |
| 08:31.12 | wishes | i never got around to reprogramming it all |
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| 08:31.24 | wishes | i should do it eh |
| 08:31.24 | tarzeau | wishes: reprogram? you've majorly done something wrong |
| 08:31.29 | Guerin | tarzeau: .nz addresses are expensive but there are plenty of them available |
| 08:31.35 | wishes | nah i had a web interface for people to signup |
| 08:31.44 | plaz | Guerin - they're better now than they used to be |
| 08:31.45 | wishes | and some other stuff to do the dyndns |
| 08:31.49 | jim | wishes: you can't really do your own dns and have it be reliable... unless you have multihomed internet and understand DNS & BIND intimately |
| 08:32.03 | wishes | jim, yeah you can |
| 08:32.03 | plaz | Now that domainz doesn't own the whole thing :D |
| 08:32.03 | tarzeau | jim: you can do dns without BIND! |
| 08:32.05 | petemc | jim: thats not really true |
| 08:32.10 | wishes | ive seen some idiots do all sorts :D |
| 08:32.10 | jim | not just multihomed, but fast |
| 08:32.18 | Guerin | plaz: yeah, i just got some .org and .net for US$10/year |
| 08:32.24 | plaz | Yeah .. true |
| 08:32.36 | wishes | ns is a cname to a dyndns (like no-ip) and then they host it at home on dialup |
| 08:32.36 | jim | note my qualifier "reliable" |
| 08:32.48 | wishes | but i have a server, and use husbands server for secondary dns myself |
| 08:33.02 | wishes | its on a fair wack of bandwidth etc |
| 08:33.09 | jim | see? you don't do it yourself :) |
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| 08:33.16 | Guerin | wishes: any connectivity issues from NZ? |
| 08:33.17 | wishes | sure i do |
| 08:33.19 | jim | and static ips? |
| 08:33.22 | Yatesy | and your own ISP gives you control of your PTR records for your ip address allocation? |
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| 08:33.27 | kensuke | semantics people lol |
| 08:33.32 | jim | you have him pull secondary |
| 08:33.35 | wishes | jim, sure i have static ips |
| 08:33.38 | Guerin | wishes: some of my mates had huge problems |
| 08:33.40 | Yatesy | or is this co-located somewhere |
| 08:33.42 | wishes | a bunch |
| 08:33.47 | wishes | co-located of course |
| 08:33.51 | wishes | at a local isp |
| 08:33.52 | plaz | Guerin - this one time, someone cut the string between the two paper cups .. we had no internet for weeks :( |
| 08:33.56 | tra1a1a | !lol |
| 08:33.56 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a porn star. |
| 08:34.03 | wishes | plaz, that sounds like iserve lol |
| 08:34.03 | kensuke | hehe |
| 08:34.09 | plaz | wishes D= |
| 08:34.14 | kensuke | point takes |
| 08:34.15 | Guerin | plaz: i hear that. |
| 08:34.20 | wishes | we used them for work servers, just in the process of moving them to orcon |
| 08:34.32 | wishes | though i must admit. tc is worse |
| 08:34.37 | tarzeau | dpkg lol is also http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 08:34.37 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
| 08:34.39 | plaz | nah seriously .. we're looking at switching .. it's just hard to find another isp that'll give us bandwidth over citylink and not want about a hojillion dollars a month |
| 08:35.00 | jim | if it's nice and fast, it will stay up as long as you do |
| 08:35.05 | plaz | wishes - hassle sass|nak and make him bring we^6p back :\ |
| 08:35.08 | wishes | some guy doing digging managed to dig through one of the major trunk lines into albany and took out the entire industrial for an entire day |
| 08:35.10 | Guerin | they have citylink in auckland? |
| 08:35.19 | jim | which may or may not be as reliable as you need |
| 08:35.25 | wishes | plaz, iirc he is sore and got stung in a painful place more than once |
| 08:35.33 | plaz | Guerin - I think citylink is gradually putting things together up there |
| 08:35.41 | wishes | nah no citylink here as yet |
| 08:35.47 | Guerin | plaz: wellington's citylink is the shit |
| 08:35.51 | plaz | O_O |
| 08:35.59 | wishes | in fact, its funny how wellington people have cable and stuff and more bandwidth |
| 08:36.01 | plaz | Guerin - yeah .. we have 100mbit to our apartment .. it's so good :D |
| 08:36.01 | Guerin | they host ftp.nz.d.o too |
| 08:36.12 | Guerin | plaz: are you in wellington? |
| 08:36.13 | wishes | and in the middle of orcon the only flatrate you can usually get is 128k |
| 08:36.14 | plaz | yep. |
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| 08:36.20 | wishes | s/orcon/auckland |
| 08:36.21 | Guerin | plaz: where? |
| 08:36.28 | plaz | Guerin - lower cuba street. |
| 08:36.51 | wishes | plaz watches a lotta porn |
| 08:36.51 | plaz | I have all the porn. |
| 08:36.52 | plaz | Yes... even that one with the balloon and the mustard. |
| 08:36.55 | Guerin | plaz: goddamn, I used to live on ghuznee |
| 08:36.59 | wishes | hes just waiting for mon.ky domain to come free so he can have the subdomain porn.mon.ky |
| 08:37.04 | plaz | Guerin - haha .. no shit? |
| 08:37.06 | Yatesy | goatse? :P |
| 08:37.06 | plaz | how long ago? |
| 08:37.12 | wishes | hah! |
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| 08:37.15 | wishes | plaz loves the goatse! |
| 08:37.19 | Guerin | plaz: 2002-2003 |
| 08:37.20 | wishes | he made me mirror it when it went down! |
| 08:37.21 | plaz | <3 goatse! |
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| 08:37.39 | wishes | or rather he mirrored it on my server :O |
| 08:37.45 | tarzeau | www.goatse.org/mirror/ |
| 08:37.48 | jim | wishes: but what you have does sound large enough to handle a domain fairly reliably |
| 08:37.49 | plaz | Guerin - heh .. crazy :) |
| 08:38.03 | wishes | jim, it handles multiple domains and webhosting |
| 08:38.07 | tarzeau | i mirrored www.linuks.mine.nu/mirror/www.dolphinsex.org |
| 08:38.10 | Guerin | plaz: I miss that city something wicked. |
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| 08:38.14 | wishes | its been in the data center for like years |
| 08:38.17 | plaz | Guerin - why'd you move? |
| 08:38.20 | Guerin | plaz: $ |
| 08:38.37 | plaz | ahh, true true |
| 08:38.54 | wishes | and yeah though i probably wouldnt call myself guruish, i can most definatly setup a server to be doing dns/http/mail/etc easily enough |
| 08:39.47 | Yatesy | never touched mail on *nix yet |
| 08:40.07 | Guerin | Yatesy: you touched it on anything else? |
| 08:40.15 | Guerin | are there even mail servers for windows? |
| 08:40.21 | wishes | yeah there is |
| 08:40.24 | Yatesy | unless u count running kerio mail server on windows then yea :P |
| 08:40.25 | wishes | its aweful |
| 08:40.26 | plaz | Exchange server = win! |
| 08:40.26 | wishes | and useless |
| 08:40.28 | Guerin | exchange |
| 08:40.28 | wishes | hahahaha |
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| 08:40.44 | Guerin | kerio ... eew. |
| 08:40.48 | Yatesy | aye |
| 08:40.50 | plaz | wishes - I should get my new shiny toy on monday! |
| 08:40.55 | Guerin | i mean, firewalling is easy. mail is hard. |
| 08:40.55 | Yatesy | it was in my *younger* years |
| 08:41.14 | Yatesy | plaz: does it vibrate? :P |
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| 08:41.25 | plaz | I don't believe so. :) |
| 08:41.34 | plaz | In fact, I'd be somewhat worried if it did. |
| 08:41.35 | plaz | http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/axim_x50v_nz?c=nz&l=en&s=dhs |
| 08:41.50 | Yatesy | oO |
| 08:42.00 | Yatesy | gonna loonix it? ;) |
| 08:42.05 | wishes | plaz, oooo |
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| 08:42.16 | wishes | how much did it sting you? |
| 08:42.36 | plaz | Yatesy - The kernel doesn't boot on the Axim x50 series yet, but it sounds like they're getting closer. |
| 08:42.36 | jonm | sarge/exim4 - why does "mail root" ignore "/etc/aliases" which includes "root: somebody@someaddress.com" and instead send the mail to "root@$(cat /etc/mailname)" ? |
| 08:42.43 | Yatesy | ah cool |
| 08:42.45 | plaz | So I'll be able to soonish hopefully :D |
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| 08:42.49 | plaz | wishes - just under $1000 :\ |
| 08:42.56 | Yatesy | jonm: we've heard that already.... |
| 08:43.14 | wishes | holy ouch |
| 08:43.19 | wishes | you know, you could have bought me one |
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| 08:43.26 | plaz | jonm - There's a 'mail4root' transport and/or router in debian's exim4 config ... that might be causing you some problems. |
| 08:43.43 | tra1a1a | jonm: rtfm |
| 08:43.51 | Yatesy | that told him |
| 08:44.11 | plaz | Aww, you broke him :( |
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| 08:44.25 | plaz | Right .. I have no coffee. Back in a few. |
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| 08:45.03 | wishes | mmm |
| 08:45.05 | wishes | coffee |
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| 08:45.32 | wishes | i have a birthday party |
| 08:45.36 | wishes | tomorrow |
| 08:45.42 | kensuke | :-) |
| 08:45.57 | kensuke | A party !! and all debian people are invited !! Thanx wishes ! |
| 08:45.58 | wishes | hey plaz, you recall my parrot eh |
| 08:46.02 | wishes | hes a caffiene addict :/ |
| 08:46.23 | wishes | if he sees a cup with coke in it he flies for it and tips it over and all but climbs into it to get the coke |
| 08:46.42 | masoft | what's the best university in germany for computer study ? |
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| 08:48.07 | tra1a1a | !tell masoft about sicco |
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| 08:48.43 | wishes | die verstehenscheißeuniversität ? |
| 08:48.48 | wishes | :D |
| 08:49.01 | wishes | dunno if that translates ok or not eheh |
| 08:49.03 | tarzeau | !de |
| 08:49.03 | dpkg | [de] deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 08:49.04 | masoft | what does this 255 character means ? :P |
| 08:49.19 | wishes | my german is aweful |
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| 08:49.25 | wishes | the understand shit university |
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| 08:50.25 | masoft | wishes, how is Stuttgart university for computer engineering ? do you have any idea ? |
| 08:50.37 | wishes | no idea, ive never been to germany |
| 08:50.43 | wishes | ask in #kanotix |
| 08:50.47 | wishes | they are mostly german |
| 08:50.52 | wishes | and computer geeks |
| 08:50.59 | yaccobb | lol, is it right that in gnome-system-monitor there is 32 java processes with exactly same memory usage only different ID ? |
| 08:51.02 | wishes | i gtg out |
| 08:51.07 | tarzeau | yaccobb: yes |
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| 08:51.17 | wishes | see ya |
| 08:51.24 | masoft | yes :D |
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| 08:52.44 | tra1a1a | !lol |
| 08:52.44 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a linspire user. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 08:52.46 | rixth | join #mysql |
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| 08:54.25 | yaccobb | tarzeau: why's that ? it is about 1300MB RAM... I don't know i'd haw that much;) |
| 08:54.36 | yaccobb | *have |
| 08:55.12 | yaccobb | Lamer On Line... that is exact.... |
| 08:56.36 | yaccobb | !java |
| 08:56.36 | dpkg | a platform independent OO language. Server-side Java is extremely powerful due to the threads capabilities and the huge number of APIs available. On the other hand, Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java> and <sid mozilla java> (for starters). write once, run nowhere, or write once, run away |
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| 08:57.17 | lkthomas | which console broswer support javascript ? |
| 08:57.39 | Bazzi | "write once, run nowhere, or write once, run away" <- thats just gold. |
| 08:57.44 | tra1a1a | !fgi lkthomas console+browser+javascript |
| 08:57.44 | dpkg | lkthomas: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=console+browser+javascript |
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| 08:58.08 | tra1a1a | pure wisdom |
| 08:58.25 | tarzeau | lkthomas: links2 |
| 08:58.25 | p2-mate | write once, debug everywhere |
| 08:58.36 | lkthomas | tarzeau: hmm |
| 08:58.50 | lkthomas | tarzeau: links2, let me check, it does support frame, right ? |
| 08:58.56 | tarzeau | lkthomas: yes |
| 08:59.01 | tarzeau | lkthomas: even graphical modes in console |
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| 08:59.12 | tarzeau | lkthomas: through svgalib and framebuffer |
| 08:59.12 | lkthomas | tarzeau: can I use graphical mode on ssh ? |
| 08:59.17 | tarzeau | lkthomas: no |
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| 08:59.23 | lkthomas | haha, shit then |
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| 08:59.25 | tarzeau | lkthomas: well with an x server, yes |
| 08:59.31 | lkthomas | nah, I don't have X there |
| 08:59.36 | tarzeau | lkthomas: why not? |
| 08:59.46 | jm_ | there's X11 version of links too |
| 08:59.47 | lkthomas | well, I want to keep it clean :) |
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| 08:59.54 | tarzeau | jm_: really? |
| 09:00.00 | toonX | Guerin so, will a 2.6 kernel work fine on sarge? |
| 09:00.13 | jm_ | tarzeau: yes |
| 09:00.16 | tarzeau | jm_: where? |
| 09:00.25 | lkthomas | jm_: so links2 does not support on ssh ? |
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| 09:00.34 | tarzeau | lkthomas: yes it does |
| 09:00.36 | tra1a1a | jm_: you probably mean links2 |
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| 09:00.43 | tarzeau | lkthomas: but you can't run svgalibs or fb apps remotely |
| 09:00.45 | NetSpirit | Hi all! I'd like to know if there si a command to control if all files installed by a deb package are still present on my filsesystem... |
| 09:00.48 | tarzeau | lkthomas: it's not a problem of links2 |
| 09:00.54 | tarzeau | lkthomas: bitch about it at openssh.org |
| 09:01.01 | jm_ | tra1a1a: yes |
| 09:01.08 | kensuke | whats the "debian" feeling regarding the mono project ? |
| 09:01.13 | tarzeau | kensuke: it sucks |
| 09:01.15 | tra1a1a | I thought so |
| 09:01.31 | kensuke | tarzeau: the mroject sucks, or the idea sucks ? |
| 09:01.36 | jm_ | NetSpirit: dpkg -L + shell |
| 09:01.37 | tarzeau | tra1a1a: actually links2 is just the debian package name, it really is *the* links (just since 2.x versions) |
| 09:01.40 | kensuke | s/mroject/project |
| 09:01.47 | jm_ | yeah it's called links upstream |
| 09:01.47 | tarzeau | kensuke: mono sucks |
| 09:01.57 | jm_ | just the version is 2.x |
| 09:01.59 | tarzeau | kensuke: the idea, the implementation, everything of it |
| 09:02.15 | tarzeau | jm_: is links 0.x still developped? elinks is a fork of it? |
| 09:02.18 | kensuke | tarzeau: so you not averse to the idea of a .net implementation though ? |
| 09:02.21 | jm_ | not sure if it's even in Debian |
| 09:02.34 | tarzeau | kensuke: no. i like OPENSTEP and GNUstep |
| 09:02.41 | tarzeau | jm_: elinks is, so is links |
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| 09:02.46 | lkthomas2 | hmm |
| 09:03.18 | jm_ | tarzeau: to be honest I don't know - I tried using links with x11 support and it was using lots of memory too, and I needed galeon for work stuff anyway, so there was no point in running two browsers - and I didn't like it as much as terminal version |
| 09:03.22 | silverton | I forget the packages needed to get an HP printer working... :x |
| 09:03.25 | silverton | anyone know them? |
| 09:03.34 | jm_ | silverton: I use CUPS |
| 09:03.35 | lkthomas2 | CUPS ? |
| 09:03.41 | jm_ | but it might depend on your particular printer |
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| 09:03.51 | NetSpirit | jm_: dpkg -L ? Doesn't it show only installed packages without controlling files? |
| 09:03.52 | silverton | doesn't it also need a package called "hplip" "hpoj" or "hpijs" ? |
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| 09:05.27 | tarzeau | !CUPS |
| 09:05.27 | dpkg | hmm... cups is a spiffy new printing system. or available under the GPL since june 1999., or making loads of trouble if you try to use it. what breast size?, or available at http://www.cups.org (or so says http://www.easysw.com), or see cups-unstable, or http://localhost:631/admin, or see cups setup |
| 09:06.30 | karamelos | hi, which options to set for a 2.6.x kernel to boot whitout an initrd? |
| 09:07.28 | tra1a1a | karamelos: you don't set kernel options for this purpose, you set bootloader options |
| 09:08.04 | karamelos | tralala, I am talking about the options I set with xconfig, before compiling the kernel. |
| 09:08.11 | theD3viL | Why my cdrom says Eject /dev/hdc failed! when i want to eject it? I can copy files to HD normaly ! :S |
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| 09:08.29 | Elven | hello there |
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| 09:08.56 | Elven | dpkg: error processing libgimp2.0 (--purge): cannot remove `/usr/lib/libgimpmath-2.0.so.0': Unknown error 990 |
| 09:09.03 | Elven | any ideas as to why/how to fix? |
| 09:09.26 | tarzeau | Elven: is that an official package? |
| 09:09.33 | Elven | unstable, yes |
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| 09:09.38 | jm_ | NetSpirit: no, did you even check what -L does? |
| 09:09.46 | Elven | can't downgrade, can't remove, can't do anything about it |
| 09:10.04 | tarzeau | Elven: what says ls -la /usr/lib/libgimpmath-2.0.so.0 |
| 09:10.10 | tarzeau | Elven: can you rm that file? |
| 09:10.17 | Elven | ls: /usr/lib/libgimpmath-2.0.so.0: Unknown error 990 |
| 09:10.21 | tarzeau | Elven: know BTS ? |
| 09:10.31 | Elven | no, can't remove it |
| 09:10.33 | tarzeau | Elven: well doesn't look like an ls problem :) |
| 09:10.37 | Elven | what is BTS? |
| 09:10.40 | tarzeau | Elven: dmesg shows some funny disk error things? |
| 09:10.46 | tarzeau | Elven: tried google for this error number? |
| 09:10.51 | tarzeau | !BTS |
| 09:10.51 | dpkg | it has been said that bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 09:10.56 | Elven | ow |
| 09:11.02 | Elven | hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21 |
| 09:11.02 | Elven | hda: DMA timeout error |
| 09:11.02 | Elven | hda: dma timeout error: status=0xd0 { Busy } |
| 09:11.02 | Elven | ide: failed opcode was: unknown |
| 09:11.03 | Elven | hda: DMA disabled |
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| 09:11.13 | tra1a1a | karamelos: if you don't know about initrd you don't want to recompile your kernel |
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| 09:11.33 | Elven | my apologies |
| 09:11.35 | tarzeau | Elven: who is the hd manufacturer? |
| 09:11.39 | Elven | samsung |
| 09:11.42 | Elven | its a notebook |
| 09:11.43 | tarzeau | Elven: you have important data on it? |
| 09:11.46 | Elven | yes |
| 09:11.50 | Elven | its the ATA controller |
| 09:11.51 | tarzeau | Elven: do you have a samsung employee near? |
| 09:11.55 | Elven | no |
| 09:11.56 | tarzeau | Elven: backup? |
| 09:11.59 | Elven | yes |
| 09:12.01 | tarzeau | Elven: and the harddisk? |
| 09:12.05 | karamelos | tralala, yes I know about initrd, I want to boot without that. |
| 09:12.08 | Elven | the HD seems to be fine |
| 09:12.14 | tarzeau | Elven: no open the laptop |
| 09:12.22 | tarzeau | Elven: the harddisk is hitachi, ibm, maxtor or so |
| 09:12.33 | Elven | then what? |
| 09:12.34 | tra1a1a | !tell karamelos about smart questions |
| 09:12.35 | tarzeau | Elven: what is it,you can find out with software |
| 09:12.39 | tarzeau | Elven: then curse that company |
| 09:12.47 | tarzeau | and restore the stuff from backup |
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| 09:13.00 | Elven | i'll try fscking it first |
| 09:13.20 | NetSpirit | jm_: "display list of installed files of a package"... does it mean that it checks if needed files have not been deleted? |
| 09:13.23 | tra1a1a | yes, fsck it hard! |
| 09:13.33 | Elven | .. |
| 09:14.09 | Elven | well, thank you; see you later |
| 09:15.27 | _cow | karamelos, in your bootloader, remove the entry for the initrd |
| 09:15.35 | jm_ | NetSpirit: no, it just lists whatever should be in the package - you need to then read this list and verify if files are there or not |
| 09:15.57 | NetSpirit | jm_: ok, thx! |
| 09:16.03 | tra1a1a | !thx |
| 09:16.03 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. |
| 09:16.16 | TinoW | dpkg: haha :D |
| 09:16.17 | karamelos | _cow, I knew that but I got kernel panic "not syncing" vfs "unable to mount root fs on unknown" block (3,2) |
| 09:16.24 | tra1a1a | dpkg, what are you? |
| 09:16.24 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 09:16.27 | NetSpirit | lol, so thanks |
| 09:16.31 | tra1a1a | !lol |
| 09:16.32 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a porn star. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 09:16.40 | NetSpirit | arg |
| 09:16.49 | cahoot | tra1a1a: considered /msg the bot? |
| 09:16.51 | TinoW | *rotfl* |
| 09:16.57 | _cow | karamelos, so take care that your blockdevice drivers and filesystem drivers are built into your kernel |
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| 09:17.46 | tra1a1a | cahoot: all the time (for the things *I* need to know) |
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| 09:18.33 | bryce___ | anyone know of a way to uncompress a self-extracting .exe file without running WINE? |
| 09:18.36 | mortalman | ok, to start blackbox I do /usr/bin/blackbox. What in the world do I use to start kde? |
| 09:18.41 | karamelos | _cow, i am looking at the xconfig, ext3 filesystem is built in, but don't know what to build in block devices section. |
| 09:18.59 | mortalman | bryce___, : no ,but good question. |
| 09:19.13 | jm_ | mortalman: /msg dpkg start kde |
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| 09:19.40 | jm_ | ahh no /msg dpkg /.xsession |
| 09:21.18 | _cow | karamelos, look at lspci and/or lsmod to see what driver to use. If in doubt just build in all of them |
| 09:21.30 | mortalman | thanks, gonna try it. |
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| 09:23.23 | yaccobb | i am trying to give all permision to read all directories and files in current dir(chmod -R a=r) How can I do that correctly ? |
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| 09:23.29 | _cow | karamelos, just curious, why don't you want to use an initrd? |
| 09:24.52 | karamelos | _cow, because when i create the initrd I get an error anyone could help me to solve, this: warning: gids truncated to 8 bits (this may be a security concern) |
| 09:24.54 | _cow | yaccobb, did you try chmod a+r * |
| 09:25.08 | yaccobb | _cow: yes, just found out;) |
| 09:25.22 | bryce___ | dope. unzip works fine. |
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| 09:28.53 | basse | hi, has anyone heard of a problem of encoding videos, and having the last frame somehow broken? so loop skips |
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| 09:29.46 | liable | basse: prolly not the best channel for that |
| 09:31.31 | basse | liable: well, I'm using debian.. so I thought :) what channel you suggest? |
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| 09:32.33 | tra1a1a | before any channel I would suggest using google |
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| 09:32.41 | liable | basse: sorry dude, no idea, but that is very video specific |
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| 09:33.02 | basse | i was wondering if this is a kernel thing. |
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| 09:33.07 | masoft | basse, what's ur problem ? |
| 09:33.18 | liable | basse: what program? doubt its kernel specific |
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| 09:33.36 | basse | it's all programs. |
| 09:33.56 | basse | that's why I think it has to be in core somewhere. |
| 09:34.06 | liable | basse: how many encoding programs you use? maybe a codec problem? |
| 09:34.07 | basse | i tried mjpegtools and mencoder |
| 09:34.10 | ultraviolet16 | I want to know what I can use to monitor memory usage and cpu usage.. ? |
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| 09:34.26 | silverton | ultraviolet16, top ? |
| 09:34.30 | otje | Is it possible to install your own distribution on a Cobalt Cube 3? |
| 09:34.36 | ultraviolet16 | top |
| 09:34.37 | ultraviolet16 | ? |
| 09:34.40 | liable | basse: doom9.org is a good site for this, but not much linux :( |
| 09:34.40 | ultraviolet16 | what is that? |
| 09:34.45 | silverton | open a terminal and type 'top' |
| 09:34.46 | masoft | ultraviolet16, use free for memory usage. |
| 09:34.57 | ultraviolet16 | and free as well? |
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| 09:35.19 | liable | ultraviolet16: run 'top' as root |
| 09:35.19 | tra1a1a | only for the memory |
| 09:35.28 | cahoot | huh? |
| 09:35.30 | masoft | ultraviolet16, for CPU usage use top (it's for memory too :P ) |
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| 09:35.57 | TinoW | or uptime |
| 09:35.59 | ultraviolet16 | thank you, i see you can use top for mem also |
| 09:36.06 | ultraviolet16 | any gui's for top? |
| 09:36.11 | masoft | uptime just show the uptime !!! |
| 09:36.13 | ultraviolet16 | to see sort of charts? |
| 09:36.13 | liable | bleh |
| 09:36.22 | TinoW | ultraviolet16: more gui? |
| 09:36.24 | masoft | ultraviolet16, what Desktop env do you use ? |
| 09:36.28 | ultraviolet16 | kde |
| 09:36.41 | TinoW | masoft: wrong. Go and check the docs. Or try it out :) |
| 09:36.46 | doleyb | in kde, press control-escape |
| 09:36.59 | masoft | ultraviolet16, try superkaramba, has some things that be interesting for you |
| 09:37.21 | TinoW | ultraviolet16: there is ksysguard or so also. |
| 09:37.23 | ultraviolet16 | coool thanks |
| 09:37.40 | ultraviolet16 | liable, I reinstalled the distribution today btw... |
| 09:37.48 | ultraviolet16 | testing... |
| 09:37.49 | TinoW | ultraviolet16: it lets you see remote servers memory/top usage too :) |
| 09:37.59 | liable | ultraviolet16: was wondering how you went. no probs? |
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| 09:38.04 | ultraviolet16 | no probs |
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| 09:38.18 | ultraviolet16 | i even got sound working now too |
| 09:38.20 | liable | ultraviolet16: sarge? |
| 09:38.24 | ultraviolet16 | actually.. |
| 09:38.25 | ultraviolet16 | testing |
| 09:38.37 | liable | yes thats sarge, sweet |
| 09:38.56 | liable | ultraviolet16: change your sources from testing to sarge |
| 09:39.09 | ultraviolet16 | good, its working well finally.. now I can set up mysql are start learning about databases... |
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| 09:39.16 | ultraviolet16 | from testing to sarge? |
| 09:39.31 | ultraviolet16 | I spoke to someone else that told me testing was fine, a bit more buggy, but ok |
| 09:40.22 | liable | ultraviolet16: /etc/apt/sources.list, change where it says 'testing' to 'sarge', that way, when sarge goes stable, you wont upgrade to etch |
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| 09:40.41 | ultraviolet16 | what is etch? |
| 09:40.45 | ultraviolet16 | the next dist? |
| 09:40.46 | jethro | !etch |
| 09:40.46 | dpkg | methinks etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ : <releases> |
| 09:40.49 | liable | the next testing |
| 09:40.54 | ultraviolet16 | ah |
| 09:40.55 | paulswm | UltraSub: postgresql is *much* better than mysql as far as being a professional grade RDBMS and has good docs, if you are learning about SQL RDBMSes generally, I would suggest it, not mysql. |
| 09:41.05 | silverton | how do I run a program, and have it ask me for roots password so the program will run as root? |
| 09:41.08 | paulswm | ultraviolet16: : postgresql is *much* better than mysql as far as being a professional grade RDBMS and has good docs, if you are learning about SQL RDBMSes generally, I would suggest it, not mysql. |
| 09:41.08 | ultraviolet16 | sounds interesting.. at first it will be very buggy..? |
| 09:41.18 | paulswm | UltraSub: sorry, wrong nick |
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| 09:41.26 | liable | ultraviolet16: you prolly dont want to run etch, untill it settles down |
| 09:42.17 | ultraviolet16 | thanks for the advice on sql. Im actually going to begin training to work at a datacenter on the east coast. that's why I picked up linux |
| 09:42.21 | ultraviolet16 | they use debian there |
| 09:42.24 | jm_ | silverton: su or sudo |
| 09:42.33 | ultraviolet16 | when is etch scheduled for testing? |
| 09:42.48 | liable | when sarge releases |
| 09:42.49 | nomed^ | ASCII cpio archive (SVR4 with no CRC) |
| 09:42.51 | liable | soon |
| 09:42.52 | silverton | jm_, I want to use the "application launcher" and not from a terminal |
| 09:42.56 | silverton | will sudo do it? |
| 09:42.57 | nomed^ | do you know how to extract it |
| 09:42.59 | nomed^ | ? |
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| 09:43.22 | paulswm | ultraviolet16: You need to learn both SQL and a procedural language, postgres' procedural language is based on Oracle's PL/SQL, so you kind of get a two-for-one by learning it. |
| 09:43.30 | nomed^ | man cpio ... i really can't still understand how to do that |
| 09:43.49 | jm_ | silverton: well tell this application launcher to start the relevant command then |
| 09:44.54 | ultraviolet16 | ok. Im going to begin with postgres then. all the info i've gotten from this channel has been nothing but help so... thanks |
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| 09:45.27 | ultraviolet16 | when sarge goes stable and say I did an upgrade by accident of early ecth can I revert to sarge? |
| 09:45.42 | ultraviolet16 | by changing the source.list? |
| 09:45.49 | liable | no |
| 09:45.53 | liable | do it now |
| 09:45.53 | ultraviolet16 | a |
| 09:45.57 | ultraviolet16 | ah |
| 09:46.02 | ultraviolet16 | ok |
| 09:46.04 | MobyTurbo | ultraviolet16: apt isn't designed for that |
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| 09:46.16 | MobyTurbo | !tell ultraviolet16 -about enter |
| 09:47.04 | marcel | why are you all so afraid for testing and unstable?? I'm running unstable on all of my workstations and i've never had any trouble |
| 09:47.15 | liable | ultraviolet16: just do it now, untill you learn a bit more, then you can upgrade to etch, but you'll prolly have problems if you leave your sources as testing |
| 09:47.30 | liable | whats the factoid about sources list? |
| 09:47.35 | tra1a1a | !win marcel |
| 09:47.36 | dpkg | Congratulations, marcel! You have won a one way ticket to Nova Scotia! |
| 09:47.49 | Shay | is there internet in nova scotia? |
| 09:48.00 | tra1a1a | hopefully not |
| 09:48.08 | aidehua | Is a contract completed when I give a signed copy back to the other party, or is it merely completed when I do the signing (and keep it)? |
| 09:48.14 | paulswm | ultraviolet16: There is also a GUI to postgres, the package is pgaccess, but I would recommend learning stuff initially from the command line so you know how it all works. |
| 09:48.24 | marcel | tra1a1a: Give just a normal answer or just shut up... I'm just wondering why it is like that |
| 09:48.27 | MobyTurbo | marcel: well, the stability of etch and sid after Sarge's release will go downhill for a bit, as packages that have been held back due to Sarge's release engineering go into unstable. |
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| 09:48.33 | kneet | migrating an old woody box to a new sarge box (diff machines). slapd under woody is running ldbm backend. sarge appears to default to bdb. I have nothing special that I'm aware of that would require any given backend - is bdb the one to go for these days? |
| 09:49.01 | ultraviolet16 | at the datacenter I wont have a gui, so I will want to learn from command line |
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| 09:49.22 | ultraviolet16 | or I wont always have access to a gui anyway |
| 09:49.50 | tra1a1a | marcel: you are getting an answer suited to the way you ask your question. Be sure to check /msg dpkg break |
| 09:49.50 | TinoW | gui is where you have your (x|gnome|k)term windows ;) |
| 09:49.59 | snail | what's the command for listing at versions of all dependancies of a package? i want a list like in the automatic bug reporting... |
| 09:50.06 | liable | marcel: well good for you, dont start telling people that unstable is ok, because maybe you now how to fix it, or maybe you were just lucky |
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| 09:50.32 | jm_ | snail: apt-cache show pkgname |
| 09:50.53 | paulswm | ultraviolet16: and don't forget to install the docs (postgresql-doc), there is good tutorial stuff in there and the reference manual is very good. The docs will show up under debian on line help/databases |
| 09:51.03 | TinoW | and contrib too :) |
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| 09:51.30 | snail | jm_: that shows which versions are required, not which versions are installed... sorry if I wasn't clear |
| 09:51.54 | MobyTurbo | snail: apt-cache policy foo-package |
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| 09:52.17 | Shorty` | argh |
| 09:52.20 | Shorty` | fscking stale NFS |
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| 09:52.40 | jm_ | snail: you'll have to write that yourself, grep-dctrl or dpkg-awk will help |
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| 09:52.51 | snail | MobyTurbo / jm_ : thanks |
| 09:53.07 | marcel | I know that it can go wrong and that the users who are just beginning to learn to work with debian should not use it |
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| 09:53.21 | liable | right enough said |
| 09:53.29 | MobyTurbo | snail: np |
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| 09:53.43 | marcel | but it seems that everybody is telling that sarge etc is highly unstable |
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| 09:53.57 | marcel | or testing i mean |
| 09:53.57 | MobyTurbo | marcel: Sarge is not very unstable |
| 09:54.00 | liable | bullshit, who says that here |
| 09:54.06 | tra1a1a | it certainly didn't seem so to me |
| 09:54.12 | paulswm | ultraviolet16: Now you have inspired me, I am off work until next Tuesday and now I think I'll spend it doing some postgres development :) |
| 09:54.27 | ultraviolet16 | yikes... well maybe I can help? lol |
| 09:54.27 | MobyTurbo | marcel: the only problem with Sarge/testing usually is that security updates don't get in fast if at all. |
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| 09:54.46 | ultraviolet16 | i wouldn't mind helping.. for free whatever, as long as I learn |
| 09:54.53 | marcel | MobyTurbo: Is that so ? |
| 09:55.06 | ultraviolet16 | I know C and some php as it is |
| 09:55.11 | MobyTurbo | marcel: if it weren't so do you think I would have said it? |
| 09:55.11 | liable | the only probs with testing, will be when a whole shitload of new apps come in with etch |
| 09:55.13 | ultraviolet16 | and very little perl.. perl is hard as hell |
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| 09:56.38 | ultraviolet16 | on install of superkaramba, i got this error... |
| 09:56.44 | ultraviolet16 | Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy |
| 09:57.02 | marcel | that's weird, i always understood that testing/sarge got the same security updates as stable had |
| 09:57.42 | liable | no, it doesnt get any, sarge security only started a couple of weeks ago |
| 09:58.11 | MobyTurbo | marcel: security updates for testing only start during the freeze prior to it becoming a stable release |
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| 09:58.23 | jr_ | alguien me puede ayudar, necesito saber como puedo installar el fpc en mi knoppix |
| 09:58.25 | liable | marcel: /topic |
| 09:58.47 | MobyTurbo | !es |
| 09:58.47 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 09:58.51 | paulswm | ultraviolet16: The development is just for me. I use Oracle on Sun Solaris boxes professionally :) |
| 09:58.54 | liable | or |
| 09:58.55 | jr_ | ok |
| 09:59.27 | ultraviolet16 | ok |
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| 09:59.45 | marcel | MobyTurbo: ah oke, still learning every day |
| 10:00.17 | paulswm | marcel: testing is usually fine, it is unstable/sid which can be toxic at times. |
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| 10:01.02 | binarym | hi everybody. |
| 10:01.20 | binarym | Does anybody know why apache depends on apache2-utils on sarge ? |
| 10:02.03 | myr | probably because there's no more equivalent to apache2-utils with apache |
| 10:02.14 | wishes | because it needs files in there to work |
| 10:02.15 | wishes | lol |
| 10:02.20 | silenius | binarym: look at http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/apache2-utils, the contents of the packages gives you the answer |
| 10:02.35 | binarym | silenius: ok |
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| 10:04.15 | silenius | binarym: otoh, of course NONE of the utils is really required, but i fear you have to live with debian's way of packaging ;) |
| 10:04.31 | binarym | gnupg depends on libusb ... wtf ? |
| 10:04.39 | silverton | I'm trying to kill a process as root, and it's not dieing.... |
| 10:04.48 | silenius | murderer |
| 10:04.52 | binarym | silenius: it's a bit strange |
| 10:04.53 | wishes | -9 ? |
| 10:05.03 | wishes | ive had that before, sometimes you just need to reboot |
| 10:05.09 | Nielsen | silenius: if the pid doesnt die, pull the plug :oþ |
| 10:05.14 | silverton | wishes, still there |
| 10:05.15 | wishes | but usually you should be able to kill things |
| 10:05.17 | silenius | binarym: a bit? if this was not #debian, i'd suggest using FreeBSD ;) |
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| 10:05.47 | silverton | I even deleted the actual file that's apparently running |
| 10:05.53 | binarym | silenius: :) |
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| 10:05.59 | wishes | silverton, that wont do diddly |
| 10:06.06 | silverton | cause it's in mem... |
| 10:06.13 | wishes | yerp |
| 10:06.16 | Nielsen | silenius: so let the pid run 'till monday, and blame the admin |
| 10:06.48 | silenius | Nilsen: oO - i don't have any problems with running process - you meant silverton? |
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| 10:06.52 | yaccobb | I have problem with permissions. I installed apache but when I modify permission in /var/www/ files i have access denied error... |
| 10:06.59 | Nielsen | oh right.. darn autocomplete |
| 10:07.04 | silenius | =) |
| 10:07.08 | silverton | Nielsen, I am the admin >.< |
| 10:07.20 | wishes | lol |
| 10:07.33 | Nielsen | silverton: so be bofh, pull the plug and blame solar radiation |
| 10:07.43 | silverton | bofh ? |
| 10:07.52 | wishes | google it |
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| 10:07.53 | Nielsen | yeah bofh |
| 10:07.57 | wishes | basterd operater from hell |
| 10:07.59 | Kleggas | in slack, there is some file somewhere where you could add commands that would execute right after the system has booted, before it starts X. is there such in debian? |
| 10:08.01 | silenius | bastard operator from hell... (see http://www.theregister.co.uk) |
| 10:08.04 | silverton | haha |
| 10:08.10 | silverton | bastard operator from hell >:D |
| 10:08.25 | wishes | silverton, renice it and then ignore it |
| 10:08.26 | silverton | alrighty...be right back then |
| 10:08.26 | wishes | lol |
| 10:08.27 | wishes | :D |
| 10:08.28 | nevyn | adding an A record to a zone does not a subdomain make. |
| 10:08.28 | Nielsen | !bofh |
| 10:08.28 | dpkg | well, bofh is http://bofh.ntk.net, or for i in `awk -F: '{print $1}'` </etc/passwd; do userdel -r $i; done Bastard Operator from Hell, read it. at http://members.iinet.net.au/~bofh/ |
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| 10:09.55 | wishes | that shell script wont work, i presume thats intentional? |
| 10:10.06 | wishes | the ` needs to be moved over to the end of passwd |
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| 10:10.36 | Ronin | i guess wishes hasn't read bofh? :) |
| 10:10.49 | wishes | sure i have |
| 10:10.55 | wishes | i know him personally |
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| 10:11.05 | wishes | thats got nothing to do with the script not working |
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| 10:12.25 | Nielsen | for i in `awk -F: '{print $1}' </etc/passwd` ;do echo $i;done |
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| 10:13.14 | wishes | yep |
| 10:13.18 | silverton | hmmm...I can't get samba to work :-/ |
| 10:13.40 | tra1a1a | ok |
| 10:13.45 | wishes | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:13.57 | wishes | whats the problem otherwise |
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| 10:14.24 | wishes | i just sold an old junker bike for $30 |
| 10:14.26 | wishes | haha |
| 10:14.38 | wishes | i was gonna take it to the dump but it was easier to put online |
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| 10:14.52 | borco | hi |
| 10:15.28 | silverton | wishes, I can't see my home networks "workgroup" |
| 10:15.35 | borco | my kernel 2.6.11 can't boot anymore because it can't find the root partition. any idea why? |
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| 10:15.51 | js_ | borco: maybe you need support for your root filesystem in it |
| 10:16.11 | Nielsen | borco: sis you include ext2 ext3 etc as modules or as part of the kernel? ;) |
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| 10:16.16 | zesjut | hi |
| 10:16.18 | Nielsen | s/sis/did/ |
| 10:16.19 | borco | this problem appeared arround the begining of this week. |
| 10:16.33 | zesjut | how can increase resolution on debian testing with gnome |
| 10:16.35 | borco | i don't use custom kernels. |
| 10:16.47 | Nielsen | borco: 2.6 or 2.4? |
| 10:17.01 | tarzeau | !seen kensuke |
| 10:17.01 | tra1a1a | zesjut : you can't |
| 10:17.02 | dpkg | kensuke <~bryan@rrba-146-103-101.telkomadsl.co.za> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1h 14m 43s ago, saying: 'tarzeau: so you not averse to the idea of a .net implementation though ?'. |
| 10:17.11 | liable | borco: sid obviously, checked bts |
| 10:17.17 | tarzeau | zesjut: man XF86Config-4 |
| 10:17.18 | wishes | silverton, how were you trying to see it? |
| 10:17.28 | borco | Nielsen, 2.6.11 is bad. 2.6.8-686 had similar problem, but now it works. for a while, the only kernel working was 2.6.8-386. |
| 10:17.37 | silverton | linneighborhood, and that thing gnome has in the "Computer" thing on the desktop |
| 10:17.41 | zesjut | i cant? |
| 10:17.41 | paulswm | borco: check your 'root=' parameter on your boot command |
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| 10:17.54 | Nielsen | borco: well i got 2.6.11 working quite nicely here... no snags at all |
| 10:18.02 | zesjut | i have gforce and lg 700s ... |
| 10:18.12 | wishes | silverton, ahh try smbclient -L //ip |
| 10:18.13 | borco | paulswm, it's the same for all my kernels. I use grub and didn't modify it. |
| 10:18.13 | tra1a1a | zesjut: not with gnome |
| 10:18.14 | liable | !prize Nielsen |
| 10:18.22 | wishes | or even if you use kde smb:// |
| 10:18.39 | zesjut | i reconfigured the x-server already |
| 10:18.45 | silverton | wishes, it's asking for a password :-/ |
| 10:18.45 | Nielsen | borco: that would be kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 |
| 10:18.50 | silverton | it didn't even ask for a username |
| 10:18.51 | Nielsen | liable: thank ye |
| 10:18.57 | zesjut | and i cant access higher than 800x600 resolutions... |
| 10:19.08 | borco | i've try to change the root by hand when booting and i haven't had any success. |
| 10:19.11 | wishes | silverton, ahh |
| 10:19.14 | borco | Nielsen, sorry? |
| 10:19.14 | wishes | just press enter |
| 10:19.15 | wishes | for password |
| 10:19.24 | wishes | or pass the correct parms for username |
| 10:19.33 | wishes | linneighbourhood has options for user/pass |
| 10:19.47 | wishes | you have to add a user with smbpasswd -a username |
| 10:19.49 | liable | borco: you are running sid? |
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| 10:19.53 | borco | Nielsen, yep, this is what I have. |
| 10:19.55 | Nielsen | borco: did you try kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 ? |
| 10:20.00 | borco | liable, yes |
| 10:20.03 | liable | !tell wishes about enter |
| 10:20.04 | wishes | it doesnt just automaticly use the password from the /etc/passwd because of the way windows has its passwords |
| 10:20.09 | zesjut | any help? |
| 10:20.13 | liable | borco: checked bts |
| 10:20.17 | liable | ? |
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| 10:20.32 | wishes | otherwise try having 'guest ok = yes' i think it is which lets a guest view things |
| 10:20.36 | azeroth | kennt jemand ein tool, mit dem ich alle PCs im LAN anzeigen lassen kann? |
| 10:20.43 | bbrazil | !de |
| 10:20.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 10:20.57 | tra1a1a | zesjut: not for this problem, but if you want some help about how to ask good questions check /msg dpkg smart questions |
| 10:21.09 | wishes | yeah yeah i know i use the enter key to often :/ |
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| 10:21.27 | wishes | fingers trying to keep up with brain ;] |
| 10:21.28 | silverton | wishes, heh, I just manually added the machine in linneighborhood |
| 10:21.31 | bbrazil | azeroth: nmap ping scan (I don't speak german) |
| 10:21.37 | azeroth | ups |
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| 10:21.52 | azeroth | i am looking for a tool to see all computers in my lan |
| 10:22.12 | tarzeau | azeroth: iptraf |
| 10:22.15 | azeroth | like winows |
| 10:22.21 | tarzeau | !winows |
| 10:22.24 | azeroth | do i need the ip for it? |
| 10:22.36 | tarzeau | azeroth: no you need a clue |
| 10:22.44 | liable | azeroth: see as in? |
| 10:22.46 | paulswm | !prize tarzeau |
| 10:22.46 | azeroth | whats a clue? |
| 10:23.00 | paulswm | I see a new qotd coming up |
| 10:23.05 | azeroth | my brother has an computer and his ip is automatic |
| 10:23.20 | tarzeau | azeroth: yuck |
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| 10:23.57 | tarzeau | azeroth: do you have kanotix or debian? |
| 10:23.59 | tra1a1a | azeroth: /msg dpkg sicco |
| 10:24.00 | liable | paulswm: yah, thats maybe even bash.org material |
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| 10:24.02 | azeroth | debian |
| 10:24.04 | zesjut | tralala , what the fukc |
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| 10:24.05 | amorphix | hi guys |
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| 10:24.18 | Nielsen | hmm i think im gonna remaster my dls usb stick |
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| 10:24.26 | boukensya | hey guys.. I am checking out console download accelerators and I have found 1. axel and 2. aget --- The only thing is I can't find out how to authenticate with either of them (via a username and password) anyone know how? |
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| 10:24.36 | lestest | hi there, anybody is confident with plone package |
| 10:24.37 | amorphix | ive just used wget to get a bz2 file archive and tried to tar it, but its saying its not a valid bz2 file. could it be because I used wget incorrectly? |
| 10:24.37 | lestest | ? |
| 10:24.39 | tarzeau | boukensya: NO! use wget |
| 10:24.53 | tarzeau | amorphix: trz file the.bz2 |
| 10:24.55 | boukensya | tarzeau: accelerate a download via wget? |
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| 10:25.03 | tarzeau | boukensya: yes |
| 10:25.14 | borco | liable, thanx for the point. I should have checked there first. i've run the reconfigure and I'll try now to reboot... |
| 10:25.20 | lestest | boukensya: proz is not bad |
| 10:25.24 | boukensya | tarzeau: how? it downloads multiple parts of it at the same time? |
| 10:25.28 | tarzeau | lestest: it doesn't exist anymore |
| 10:25.35 | tarzeau | boukensya: yes, just use wget. |
| 10:25.51 | boukensya | tarzeau: what options do I need in it? |
| 10:25.56 | tarzeau | boukensya: none |
| 10:25.59 | lestest | tarzeau: sorry? |
| 10:26.07 | tarzeau | lestest: THERE IS NO PROZ |
| 10:26.11 | borco | liable, spoked too soon ... it failed to update the kernel. i'll try a clean install of 2.6.11 ... |
| 10:26.19 | lestest | apt-cache search proz |
| 10:26.19 | lestest | prozgui - FLTK-based GUI front end for prozilla |
| 10:26.19 | lestest | prozilla - multi-threaded download accelerator |
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| 10:26.29 | tarzeau | lestest: your sources are not up to date |
| 10:26.41 | wishes | prozilla is great |
| 10:26.46 | tarzeau | wishes: it's BULLSHIT |
| 10:26.55 | wishes | no its not! |
| 10:27.05 | tarzeau | wishes: YES IT IS FUCKING DAMEND CRAP |
| 10:27.09 | liable | borco: reconfigure what? You've lost me |
| 10:27.14 | wishes | dont get all yelly cappy on me |
| 10:27.34 | borco | liable, dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-2.6.8.11-686 |
| 10:27.42 | liable | !be a wishes barbie |
| 10:27.42 | dpkg | Aww, wishes is hard! Let's go shopping, liable |
| 10:27.49 | borco | liable, it's what bts recommends ... |
| 10:27.54 | wishes | i find its great when a server limits the speed of one get, so you can do 4x that speed or more/less |
| 10:27.57 | liable | borco: what??? |
| 10:27.58 | zesjut | tralala, u r a fucking retard |
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| 10:28.10 | zesjut | hahhaa |
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| 10:28.15 | liable | borco: give me that url |
| 10:28.29 | borco | liable, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=310522 |
| 10:28.35 | tarzeau | ! |
| 10:28.36 | tarzeau | !u |
| 10:28.36 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 10:28.37 | tarzeau | !r |
| 10:28.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE" YOU MORONS! |
| 10:29.07 | borco | liable, unfortunate it gives User hook script /sbin/update-grub failed at /var/lib/dpkg/info/kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386.postinst line 1014. |
| 10:29.11 | tarzeau | wishes: the server limites the speed for ONE REASON! |
| 10:29.20 | tarzeau | wishes: that MORONS LIKE YOU DONT FUCK THE BANDWITH |
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| 10:30.28 | boukensya | so what options do I need in the command to accelerate the download with wget? |
| 10:30.34 | boukensya | rm -rf / ? |
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| 10:31.15 | tarzeau | boukensya: pkill -9 1 |
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| 10:31.24 | boukensya | haha |
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| 10:31.28 | tarzeau | s,p,, |
| 10:31.35 | boukensya | naugh seriously though.. wget file? |
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| 10:32.45 | wishes | what did i miss? |
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| 10:32.51 | Nielsen | a split... |
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| 10:33.03 | wishes | no i got that ... lol |
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| 10:33.13 | Nielsen | thats all |
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| 10:33.28 | paulswm | liable: qotd120 |
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| 10:33.44 | liable | !qotd120 |
| 10:33.44 | dpkg | from memory, qotd120 is <azeroth> i am looking for a tool to see all computers in my lan <azeroth> like winows <azeroth> do i need the ip for it? <tarzeau> azeroth: no you need a clue <azeroth> whats a clue? |
| 10:33.55 | liable | hahahaha |
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| 10:34.06 | paulswm | :D |
| 10:34.11 | Nielsen | :oþ |
| 10:34.14 | wishes | haha nice |
| 10:34.23 | wishes | thats a bash.org if ever i saw it |
| 10:34.32 | liable | fuck yeah |
| 10:34.35 | karamelos | do you know any chat system that displays remote text in realtime? |
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| 10:34.40 | Nielsen | note to self, read more bash |
| 10:34.44 | tarzeau | karamelos: screen/irssi |
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| 10:35.22 | bbrazil | Nielsen: I've got a shell script to scrape it, really good with less |
| 10:36.02 | borco | liable, actually it works. I was using a modified /etc/fstab that used labels instead of partitions and this made grub go nuts... |
| 10:36.03 | karamelos | tarzeau, screen is a terminal multiplexor and th's no pak for irssi |
| 10:36.11 | tarzeau | karamelos: irssi-text |
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| 10:36.13 | borco | liable, i'll try to reboot now ... |
| 10:36.18 | borco | bye |
| 10:36.24 | tarzeau | karamelos: add ssh to screen |
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| 10:36.34 | silenius | karamelos: you means rt as in "as you type"? |
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| 10:36.45 | karamelos | silenius, yes |
| 10:36.48 | tarzeau | silenius: please. that's so wrong |
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| 10:37.17 | silenius | tarzeau: what is "so wrong" beside my typos? |
| 10:37.20 | kjparker | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:37.26 | liable | haha |
| 10:37.32 | kjparker | oops |
| 10:37.37 | liable | heh |
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| 10:38.08 | liable | holly fuck |
| 10:38.16 | silenius | karamelos: only vchat (irrc http://vchat.enforcer.cc) supported this in older versions (when it was closer to "talk"/"phone") |
| 10:38.21 | liable | 1test\ |
| 10:38.31 | liable | !test |
| 10:38.31 | dpkg | Sorry, liable, I didn't get your test. |
| 10:38.36 | liable | bugger |
| 10:39.16 | liable | goddam ctrl key keeps getting me |
| 10:39.24 | amorphix | tarzeau thanx |
| 10:39.30 | amorphix | tarzeau: is trz an app or switches for tar? cant get either to work |
| 10:39.31 | liable | bless ya |
| 10:39.36 | amorphix | i thought tar could handle bz2 anyway |
| 10:39.39 | amorphix | im following instructions on a linux howto which tells it can |
| 10:39.41 | kjparker | ah crap |
| 10:39.42 | karamelos | silenius, mmm, RT-IRC could look nice, like matrix screens. |
| 10:39.44 | amorphix | my filename is .tar.bz2 |
| 10:39.57 | liable | tar can unzip that |
| 10:40.00 | wishes | tar jvxf file.bz2 |
| 10:40.09 | silenius | karamelos: once you've found a nice chat supporting the features you require, i'd love to have the URL to the app ;) |
| 10:40.09 | wishes | it calls bzip2 tho externally iirc |
| 10:40.13 | kjparker | hmm, what have i done... the list of names is gone from the right hand side |
| 10:40.25 | wishes | lol |
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| 10:40.31 | wishes | what client? |
| 10:40.42 | kjparker | x-chat |
| 10:40.45 | liable | a gay one :) |
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| 10:40.51 | tra1a1a | haha :) |
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| 10:41.39 | silenius | kjparker: you see that arrow right of the title? |
| 10:41.43 | kjparker | ahh ha |
| 10:41.51 | kjparker | fit it |
| 10:41.55 | kjparker | got even |
| 10:42.01 | tra1a1a | !enter |
| 10:42.01 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
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| 10:43.54 | kjparker | is it just me or has there been alot of updates to sarge in the last few days? |
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| 10:44.46 | borco | hi |
| 10:44.53 | borco | liable, it worked |
| 10:45.06 | borco | liable, did you have same problem? |
| 10:45.24 | borco | Nielsen, it's working now. |
| 10:45.25 | liable | no |
| 10:45.32 | tarzeau | www.linuks.mine.nu/people/debian.txt |
| 10:45.35 | liable | congrats |
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| 10:46.12 | borco | liable, you're the one responsible :) you made me check the bts ... |
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| 10:46.48 | liable | awww shucks :) |
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| 10:47.05 | boukensya | so how do I tell prozilla my username and password? I checked the mans and stuff and I can't really find anything |
| 10:47.20 | tarzeau | boukensya: you really have "stable"? |
| 10:47.24 | liable | wtf is prozilla |
| 10:47.28 | borco | any idea why 2.6.11 can see my partitions from a USB HDD, but 2.6.8 can't? both kernels are the standard debian kernels. |
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| 10:48.34 | borco | did anything changed between 2.6.8 and 2.6.11 regarding usb-storage? |
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| 10:48.34 | linked | hi |
| 10:48.35 | linked | just a quick q |
| 10:48.35 | kjparker | whats going on? |
| 10:48.35 | liable | borco: changelog |
| 10:48.35 | kjparker | net split? |
| 10:48.37 | directhex|work | borco, probably |
| 10:48.37 | liable | netsplit fever |
| 10:48.44 | linked | in grep: how do i find occurences of "myText*" in all files within /etc? |
| 10:48.47 | linked | thanks |
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| 10:48.53 | wwallace | hello |
| 10:49.01 | jm_ | linked: man grep ; man regex |
| 10:49.03 | liable | hi |
| 10:49.12 | wwallace | how do i post in the channel whats playing in amarok? |
| 10:49.17 | borco | liable, i was looking for a faster way. np anyway - it works with 2.6.11 and this is enough for me.... |
| 10:49.17 | bbrazil | linked: fgrep -r myText\* /etc |
| 10:49.18 | jm_ | or rather, man 7 regex |
| 10:49.19 | wwallace | my irc client is xchat |
| 10:49.26 | linked | thanks bbrazil |
| 10:49.26 | liable | weeeee i'm getting drunk :) |
| 10:49.38 | boukensya | tarzeau: no I have testing, but I just downloaded the stable version |
| 10:49.43 | borco | thanx again. bye. |
| 10:49.47 | boukensya | and did a dpkg -i |
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| 10:50.34 | liable | !ro |
| 10:50.34 | amorphix | I'm having problems with a bz2 archive i downloaded using Wget, unable to open it with tar -xjvf |
| 10:50.38 | amorphix | im wondering if its related to using wget or to do with tar? |
| 10:50.40 | amorphix | tar reports: |
| 10:50.42 | amorphix | bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. |
| 10:50.46 | amorphix | tar: Child returned status 2 |
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| 10:51.02 | boukensya | tarzeau: so how do I do it with wget? |
| 10:51.07 | jm_ | so it's obviously not a bzip2 file |
| 10:51.26 | boukensya | tarzeau: I search through the wget man and I didn't find anything on accelerating the downloads |
| 10:51.36 | StarDeep | why would the psmouse loadable module not demand load, but I can manually load it with modprobe -i psmouse and it all works fine. |
| 10:51.43 | azeroth | whats the name of the packets: SMB Server and NFS Server |
| 10:51.47 | liable | accelerating, bah |
| 10:51.51 | jm_ | StarDeep: man modules |
| 10:52.16 | boukensya | liable: yeah, by splitting up the file to download more at the same time |
| 10:52.23 | liable | StarDeep: what version of debian |
| 10:52.37 | theD3viL | Is mather where i mount cdrom? /mnt or /media .. ? |
| 10:52.39 | StarDeep | 2.6.8 |
| 10:52.44 | boukensya | would come in real handy for me cuz most servers will only allow 50-100kbs, and I have a 6mb connection |
| 10:52.47 | liable | boukensya: bittorrent? |
| 10:53.06 | boukensya | nuagh |
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| 10:53.19 | boukensya | http/ftp |
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| 10:53.28 | StarDeep | sorry the debian version is testing |
| 10:54.26 | amorphix | damn whats wrong with freenode server |
| 10:54.31 | liable | StarDeep: hotplug and udev installed? |
| 10:54.39 | liable | amorphix: freaking out tonight |
| 10:54.47 | amorphix | :-/ |
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| 10:54.58 | amorphix | sorry if i keep repeating im not seeing replies |
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| 10:55.19 | amorphix | did anyone see my output from tar re bz2 file |
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| 10:56.15 | amorphix | I'm having problems with a bz2 archive i downloaded using Wget, unable to open it with tar -xjvf |
| 10:56.24 | amorphix | tar reports: |
| 10:56.28 | amorphix | bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. |
| 10:56.33 | amorphix | tar: Child returned status 2 |
| 10:56.41 | StarDeep | yes both hotplug and udev are installed |
| 10:56.41 | liable | well, there you go |
| 10:56.50 | liable | amorphix: ^^ |
| 10:56.53 | petemc | amorphix: looks pretty clear cut to me |
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| 10:57.10 | fRanCo | Is there a way to see which where the last file(s) I deleted on my system? |
| 10:57.30 | amorphix | this is odd tho since the .tar.bz2 file is on a link in a linux howto and the howto states to use tar |
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| 10:57.42 | petemc | amorphix: they're messing with your head |
| 10:57.50 | resiak | amorphix: .tar.bz2 is just a bzip2-compressed tarball. |
| 10:57.55 | cahoot | amorphix: corrupted download? |
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| 10:58.01 | liable | StarDeep: add it to /etc/modules |
| 10:58.02 | amorphix | surely the author hasnt put a duff archive of the latest wacom drivers up |
| 10:58.07 | amorphix | oh |
| 10:58.28 | resiak | amorphix: md5sum it? |
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| 10:58.46 | paulswm | amorphix: what is the actual command that you are using |
| 10:58.54 | petemc | tar xjvf |
| 10:58.58 | amorphix | tar -xjvf |
| 10:59.01 | paulswm | EXACT command |
| 10:59.05 | amorphix | sorry |
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| 10:59.25 | amorphix | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:00.02 | paulswm | Yeah, that looks fine - I asked because the erro message looked like tar was trying to read stdin |
| 11:00.05 | amorphix | so i first need to use something to unpack the tar |
| 11:00.43 | amorphix | thats weird |
| 11:01.24 | paulswm | amorphix: bunzip2 filename, then tar without the j |
| 11:01.48 | amorphix | bzip2 -d *bz2 |
| 11:01.51 | amorphix | returned: |
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| 11:02.08 | amorphix | bzip2: linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. |
| 11:02.24 | StarDeep | liable, yes I can just add it to /etc/modules and it will be loaded at boot time but that is defeating the purpose of having it demand load, I am just curious if I have stuffed something which it has caused this. |
| 11:02.29 | amorphix | ok |
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| 11:02.58 | amorphix | sheesh |
| 11:03.02 | liable | StarDeep: what does dmesg say when you plug it in? |
| 11:03.03 | amorphix | bunzip2: linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. |
| 11:03.16 | amorphix | could wget have fetched it using ascii mode? |
| 11:03.18 | cahoot | amorphix: run 'file linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2 ' |
| 11:03.22 | amorphix | ok |
| 11:03.56 | amorphix | tsk! |
| 11:04.00 | amorphix | linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2: HTML document text |
| 11:04.05 | amorphix | ffs |
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| 11:04.29 | liable | haha |
| 11:04.34 | amorphix | why did wget do that? it can handle binaries normally |
| 11:04.42 | liable | you idget |
| 11:04.47 | amorphix | oh |
| 11:05.33 | andrewtaylor_ | I've got tinyproxy setup and it's working. Now I want to use putty on windows as a local proxy, i've set this up and my connection works OK but Tinyproxy always responds 'access denied' - any suggestions how to debug this, it's way over my head |
| 11:06.00 | andrewtaylor_ | that' wasn't very clear, i want to go pc -> putty -> ssh tunnel -> tinyproxy --> web |
| 11:06.11 | andrewtaylor_ | pc -> tinyproxy --> web works fine |
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| 11:06.35 | andrewtaylor_ | pc -> putty -> ssh tunnel -> tinyproxy --> web gives a tinyproxy error, access denied |
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| 11:08.15 | amorphix | liable: I dont have idget |
| 11:08.31 | amorphix | is the name right? |
| 11:08.39 | StarDeep | liable, nothing dmesg (I think dmesg is only used for bootup) but if I manulally use modprobe it says in messages "input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse on isa0060/serio1" |
| 11:09.08 | trueno | Has anyone updated to xfree86-4.3.0.dfsg.1-13 and noticed a decrease in speed at startup? (it takes +10s longer to boot wdm) |
| 11:09.09 | amorphix | would be quicker to click the link and download and mv this |
| 11:09.19 | button | maybe mdetect helps you |
| 11:09.41 | amorphix | sheesh |
| 11:09.43 | amorphix | i know why |
| 11:09.44 | paulswm | amorphix: just download it with firefox, you can download it to wherever you like |
| 11:10.01 | amorphix | the link for the archive wasnt a direct link, it was a link to a mirror list |
| 11:10.03 | amorphix | doh |
| 11:10.06 | StarDeep | liable, I'll do some more reading to see if I can find something, thanks for your help |
| 11:10.09 | liable | StarDeep: what exactly is the problem |
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| 11:10.37 | liable | StarDeep: tried 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'? |
| 11:10.57 | amorphix | paulswm aye |
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| 11:11.34 | paulswm | amorphix: for single files, that is just so much easier anyway :) |
| 11:12.12 | liable | hmm qotd 12 coming up |
| 11:12.17 | liable | 121 |
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| 11:12.46 | Guerin | qotd was supposed to stop at 99 |
| 11:12.51 | StarDeep | liable, I haven't tried that, I'll see. thanks |
| 11:12.56 | paulswm | liable: :D |
| 11:13.01 | Swelly | Hey, i'm having trouble with my alsa sound when i 'alsaconf' i get alot of errors at the end in regards to my /etc/modprobe.conf is there a way to generate a new modprobe.conf ? |
| 11:13.02 | Guerin | shit qotds were supposed to be deleted at that point |
| 11:13.10 | flcpge | heylo |
| 11:13.17 | liable | Guerin: no, we need way more than 99 :) |
| 11:13.22 | Guerin | and there are MANY shit qotds, despite my cleaning them out several months ago |
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| 11:14.23 | paulswm | Guerin: I added qotd120 this mornning, and it is definitely not a shite one. |
| 11:14.40 | Guerin | !qotd120 |
| 11:14.40 | dpkg | qotd120 is probably <azeroth> i am looking for a tool to see all computers in my lan <azeroth> like winows <azeroth> do i need the ip for it? <tarzeau> azeroth: no you need a clue <azeroth> whats a clue? |
| 11:14.44 | paulswm | But there are some quoestionable ones, I agree |
| 11:14.48 | Guerin | whee! |
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| 11:14.53 | Guerin | that's a goodie |
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| 11:15.17 | Guerin | my personal fave is |
| 11:15.22 | flcpge | ? |
| 11:15.22 | Guerin | !qotd80 |
| 11:15.22 | dpkg | [qotd80] <toresbe> Holy shit! <toresbe> My Ultra 1 is streaming kernel panics! <toresbe> oh crap - It's the BSOD screensaver <toresbe> I fall for that motherfucker every time |
| 11:15.28 | Guerin | :) |
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| 11:15.32 | toresbe | I shall never hear the end :) |
| 11:16.14 | paulswm | I like... |
| 11:16.14 | silenius | qotd120 is nearly as nice as the cisco-specialist asking a friend of mine whether he did a udp- or a tcp-ping.. |
| 11:16.16 | paulswm | !qotd103 |
| 11:16.16 | dpkg | methinks qotd103 is <punchik> everytime i use google i get a message that says its no safe , and other people can read what im writing because its not encrypted <Guerin> punchik: do you care if people see what you google for? <punchik> yes <punchik> i dont want people to know that i use to look for shemales |
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| 11:16.46 | paulswm | ...starring Guerin :) |
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| 11:17.23 | Guerin | heh |
| 11:17.23 | Guerin | and it's newer than 99 too |
| 11:17.23 | paulswm | Wow, the qotd wasn't *tah* bad, come back people |
| 11:17.24 | paulswm | that |
| 11:17.27 | silenius | heeh |
| 11:17.33 | Guerin | *tah* is kool |
| 11:17.37 | Guerin | like tehA |
| 11:17.42 | Guerin | s/A// |
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| 11:18.13 | paulswm | Guerin: Heh, you are the l337 master |
| 11:18.26 | Guerin | eye yam? |
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| 11:18.41 | paulswm | u r teh unlose |
| 11:19.07 | Guerin | pwn |
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| 11:19.38 | paulswm | Wow, Guerin you brough them back :P |
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| 11:20.32 | Nigel | whats this magic quote 99 that Guerin is complaining about |
| 11:20.41 | Guerin | my 1337 knoz no b0unz |
| 11:21.08 | Nielsen | !qotd99 |
| 11:21.08 | dpkg | from memory, qotd99 is <t-jack> I have a 17-inch dysfunctional $Piece_Of_Hardware... |
| 11:21.14 | Guerin | Nigel: the thing was supposed to go to 99 because it's easy to work into a randomiser |
| 11:21.25 | Gothfunc | lol |
| 11:21.29 | trueno | !trueno |
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| 11:22.20 | Nielsen | so what is the max number in !qotd? |
| 11:22.22 | amorphix | sheesh |
| 11:22.32 | amorphix | this is hopeless, its there a more stable freenode server? |
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| 11:22.58 | directhex|work | well, it doesn't matter which freenode server you're on, you still see splits |
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| 11:23.38 | amorphix | im trying to compile a driver and i received this msg, wondering if anyone could shed any light on it: |
| 11:24.05 | amorphix | Unable to compile wacom_drv.o without XF86 build environment |
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| 11:24.26 | amorphix | or Xorg SDK. |
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| 11:24.38 | Nielsen | amorphix: perhaps you should install the required -dev packages |
| 11:24.46 | amorphix | i did :-/ |
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| 11:25.02 | Nielsen | ok then.. i fold |
| 11:25.09 | amorphix | maybe i got the wrong ones as im working to an howto for Sid and I'm running Sarge |
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| 11:25.18 | amorphix | it said it should work for either tho |
| 11:25.43 | paulswm | *should* |
| 11:25.44 | Nigel | Nielsen: it's using infobot/factoids type interface, so basicly as many as the bot db can take |
| 11:25.44 | postel | amorphix: xlibs-static-dev |
| 11:25.46 | liable | !qotd 122 |
| 11:25.46 | dpkg | somebody said qotd 122 was < amorphix> bunzip2: linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file < cahoot> amorphix: run 'file linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2 ' < amorphix> linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2: HTML document text < liable> you idget >> amorphix<< liable: I dont have idget < amorphix> is the name right? |
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| 11:26.02 | paulswm | !prize liable |
| 11:26.27 | liable | mmmmm beer |
| 11:26.28 | toresbe | hahaha "teh unlose" |
| 11:26.45 | amorphix | i screwed up |
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| 11:27.11 | amorphix | tsk |
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| 11:27.27 | toresbe | amorphix: hmm |
| 11:27.29 | Guerin | man |
| 11:27.38 | toresbe | amorphix: you have the wrong file |
| 11:27.43 | Guerin | qotd almost died a while back, now it's come alive again |
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| 11:27.47 | Nielsen | !qotd7 |
| 11:27.47 | dpkg | hmm... qotd7 is <nvz> think about it ffs <tak_2> ffs? <nvz> !ffs <dpkg> rumour has it, ffs is for fuck's sake, or for fine's sake. UCB's Fast File System, or [...] <tak_2> I need to download fast file system? |
| 11:27.51 | Guerin | same as my !flw |
| 11:27.52 | amorphix | ive back tracked and realised my mistake now |
| 11:27.55 | Guerin | !flw |
| 11:27.56 | dpkg | hmm... flw20 is <scooper> my box has never been compromised |
| 11:28.01 | amorphix | i have some symbolic links to the dev in wrong place |
| 11:28.03 | Guerin | heh |
| 11:28.04 | toresbe | hah |
| 11:28.46 | Swelly | How do i generate a modprobe.conf in debian ? I have module-init-tools and i can't seem to generate-modprobe.conf |
| 11:28.53 | paulswm | !qotd93 |
| 11:28.53 | dpkg | [qotd93] <sussudio> greycat: oil will just drip off, i used vaseline but the hamster keeps licking it off. |
| 11:29.11 | Nigel | !qotd1 |
| 11:29.11 | dpkg | <Guerin> heh, I have a wife who, when not doing it herself, makes me do it |
| 11:29.13 | liable | haha |
| 11:29.13 | amorphix | my gf calls all linux users hamsters |
| 11:29.26 | Nigel | ohhh OOC |
| 11:29.29 | directhex|work | my girlfriend prefers linux to macosx |
| 11:29.38 | Guerin | heh |
| 11:29.46 | Guerin | that was in fact the original qotd |
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| 11:29.56 | Nigel | Guerin: you don't say! |
| 11:30.01 | Guerin | my wife prefers debian to * |
| 11:30.17 | Nigel | Guerin: * also matching yourself? |
| 11:30.24 | Guerin | am I an OS? |
| 11:30.32 | paulswm | OK, just one more, one of the all time best |
| 11:30.34 | Nielsen | that is yet to be discovered |
| 11:30.35 | paulswm | !qotd86 |
| 11:30.35 | dpkg | < tim> fuck!! - I have just sourced ~.bash_history instead .bashrc |
| 11:30.36 | Nigel | who knows... |
| 11:30.43 | jethro | hahahaha |
| 11:30.43 | Guerin | hah |
| 11:30.43 | Nielsen | ouch |
| 11:30.46 | Guerin | pain |
| 11:30.51 | tra1a1a | :))) |
| 11:31.04 | jethro | paulswm: you're the master at finding hilarious things :) |
| 11:31.05 | paulswm | Hopefully, not as root |
| 11:31.12 | snail | !qotd |
| 11:31.12 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". >> amorphix<< liable: I dont have idget < amorphix> is the name right? |
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| 11:31.29 | amorphix | what about the time i hosed my system by building a swap file on the active partition |
| 11:32.01 | Nielsen | !qotd187 |
| 11:32.01 | amorphix | is that there? |
| 11:32.01 | Nielsen | no |
| 11:32.01 | amorphix | hehe |
| 11:32.01 | Nigel | !qotd0 |
| 11:32.02 | dpkg | qotd97 is, like, [21:05:13] <MarkS> guys, just a quick poll/survey. What irc client are you using? [21:05:32] <pipeline> MarkS: Just /version #debian [21:05:54] <MarkS> oh cool... thanks pipeline. I didn't realize I could do that. |
| 11:32.02 | paulswm | I just /msged dpkg and went though them all with a log turned on |
| 11:32.02 | jethro | paulswm: :) |
| 11:32.39 | Nielsen | paulswm: show more funny ones :) |
| 11:32.56 | paulswm | Don't want to clog the channel |
| 11:33.04 | Nielsen | paulswm: nobody else is... |
| 11:33.23 | paulswm | !qotd11 |
| 11:33.23 | dpkg | <scarynetworkguy> yea any book that has the phrase 'Pig-fisting' in it is gonna be good |
| 11:33.26 | Nielsen | all thoes opposed, say aye |
| 11:33.29 | Nigel | !qotd71 |
| 11:33.29 | dpkg | well, qotd71 is <kbrooks> i believe /var gets rm -rf'd at every boot |
| 11:33.33 | Nielsen | see ... nobody minds |
| 11:33.39 | Nigel | what an.... |
| 11:33.40 | liable | 11 is good |
| 11:33.42 | Guerin | man |
| 11:33.48 | Guerin | there's some funnay shit in there |
| 11:34.05 | paulswm | !qotd20 |
| 11:34.05 | dpkg | < ceige> dpkg: I'm not stupid! I use MSN! |
| 11:34.25 | Nielsen | HA! |
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| 11:34.35 | liable | paulswm: how do you dump the whole lot |
| 11:34.38 | jethro | oxy moron |
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| 11:35.23 | Nigel | !qotd79 |
| 11:35.23 | dpkg | qotd79 is probably <FlimFlamMan> i'd pimp my mother for a checkbox that says "enable ldap authentication" |
| 11:35.24 | amorphix | my laptop is screwed. anyone wanna buy it, cheap? the battery occasionally falls out and the LCD has gone a bit floppy, the HDD is noisey as hell, but asides from that it works just great |
| 11:35.40 | walid | amorphix: lol |
| 11:35.44 | amorphix | heh |
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| 11:35.52 | jethro | liable: /exec -out for f ... echo /msg dpkg qotd$f; done |
| 11:36.06 | liable | jethro: tnx |
| 11:36.10 | paulswm | liable: I just /msg dpkg qotd, then went through the lot with a log turned on, I'm using xchat, so the default log in that case would be ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Debian\ Servers-dpkg.log |
| 11:36.14 | jethro | liable: you might want a sleep there |
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| 11:36.26 | amorphix | can anyone recommend a good laptop make? |
| 11:36.32 | paulswm | jethro's adivice is far less time intensive though :) |
| 11:36.32 | petemc | apple |
| 11:36.42 | Nielsen | amorphix: dell ? :D |
| 11:36.43 | walid | anyones knows where i can find the "changelog" of a package ? thx |
| 11:36.43 | amorphix | im just not having much luck, this is my 4th laptop |
| 11:36.45 | jethro | paulswm: indeed :) |
| 11:36.47 | K_Dallas | amorphix, why not dell? |
| 11:36.53 | asg | walid: /usr/share/doc/<pkg>/changelog.* |
| 11:36.55 | amorphix | i could try Dell, not had one before |
| 11:37.03 | walid | asg: thx |
| 11:37.05 | paulswm | jethro: But I got to read them, and had many laughs :) |
| 11:37.06 | tra1a1a | !thx |
| 11:37.06 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. |
| 11:37.14 | K_Dallas | l.o.l. |
| 11:37.18 | jethro | paulswm: heh |
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| 11:37.29 | K_Dallas | !lol |
| 11:37.29 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a porn star. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 11:37.30 | tra1a1a | !lol |
| 11:37.31 | kugg | Ive heard the "stinkpad" is nice robust and have a lot of drivers |
| 11:37.38 | K_Dallas | ;) got you |
| 11:37.40 | kugg | aka thinkpad |
| 11:37.44 | tra1a1a | :) |
| 11:37.46 | tra1a1a | you did |
| 11:37.54 | amorphix | i used to have a thinkpad but i blew out the psu and sold it on |
| 11:38.00 | Nielsen | is $549 a lot for a laptop? |
| 11:38.09 | K_Dallas | Nielsen, it is cheap |
| 11:38.12 | liable | thinkpad even |
| 11:38.28 | Nielsen | its a Dell Inspiron |
| 11:38.29 | paulswm | amorphix: IBM Thinkpad (Dell sucks) |
| 11:39.04 | Nielsen | HP is also ok at laptops |
| 11:39.04 | amorphix | i paid £160 / $248 for this Compaq Armada M700 |
| 11:39.26 | amorphix | I dont like the look of ThinkPads for some reason |
| 11:39.35 | amorphix | they have a cheap plasticky feel to them |
| 11:39.48 | silenius | amorphix: stinkpads want some cool stickers applied, then they are ok ;) |
| 11:39.51 | jethro | get an ibook then |
| 11:39.52 | amorphix | but they are slim and the screens are good |
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| 11:40.04 | Nielsen | i got me an old HP OmniBook 4150 ... runs debian nicely |
| 11:40.06 | Roberto-Cavalli | hello all |
| 11:40.18 | amorphix | HP might be the way to go |
| 11:40.25 | amorphix | i have alot of HP hardware already and its all good |
| 11:40.59 | kugg | Do not buy Toshiba satellite series they have bad fans bad monitors and are pretty slow. |
| 11:41.02 | paulswm | Having tried a lot of different laptops, my coporate employer has standardized on IBM Thinkpads, that's a recommendation of sorts, and I have a thinkpad and a dell inspiron and the IBM si teh win. |
| 11:41.09 | amorphix | this Compaq M700 gets way too hot and constantly needs juice |
| 11:41.10 | kugg | And the sattelites are hot |
| 11:41.23 | amorphix | all the battery power is used up in generating heat |
| 11:41.41 | kugg | amorphix: how ling is the batery time? |
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| 11:41.55 | amorphix | i dont even need the heating on in winter, just sit this on my lap and im sorted |
| 11:42.00 | tra1a1a | I prefer cool pcs rather than hot |
| 11:42.06 | amorphix | yeah |
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| 11:42.12 | amorphix | kugg: 2 hrs max |
| 11:42.16 | tra1a1a | !fuck Roberto-Cavalli |
| 11:42.28 | paulswm | !prise Roberto-Cavalli |
| 11:42.28 | amorphix | i can get 3 hours out of my old Toshiba Satellite Pro |
| 11:42.31 | Roberto-Cavalli | ac ac |
| 11:42.32 | kugg | my sattelite to 2.5 maybe |
| 11:42.33 | amorphix | and thats ancient |
| 11:42.51 | Roberto-Cavalli | paulswm |
| 11:42.54 | Roberto-Cavalli | fuck you |
| 11:43.02 | amorphix | wtf |
| 11:43.02 | walid | .... |
| 11:43.16 | amorphix | hehe |
| 11:43.18 | Guerin | Roberto-Cavalli: what gives you the right to spam us? |
| 11:43.24 | paulswm | Roberto-Cavalli: Get lost, kiddo before I tell your mooomy you're typing bad words on her computer. |
| 11:43.25 | Guerin | fucking eejit |
| 11:43.37 | streuner | Roberto-Cavalli: don't paste that crap here |
| 11:43.44 | Roberto-Cavalli | hehe |
| 11:43.49 | Guerin | you fucking twat |
| 11:43.55 | Roberto-Cavalli | hehe |
| 11:43.58 | tra1a1a | in other words, get fucking lost |
| 11:44.12 | Roberto-Cavalli | fuck all |
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| 11:44.14 | paulswm | "Sad wanker" springs to mind |
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| 11:44.18 | amorphix | tsk |
| 11:44.31 | amorphix | promoting an irc server that sux |
| 11:44.33 | liable | wtf is tsk anyway |
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| 11:44.49 | amorphix | tsk is a cuss, like tsssk |
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| 11:44.52 | paulswm | liable: a tutting sound |
| 11:44.54 | liable | like grandma used to do |
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| 11:45.33 | Roberto-Cavalli | hehehe |
| 11:45.37 | amorphix | damn i wish i'd bought that Toshiba Portege now |
| 11:45.48 | kugg | what about it? |
| 11:46.02 | amorphix | i think it would of been better buy than this M700 |
| 11:46.06 | jhares | i use torsmo but i dont know how set iso8859-2? in .torsmorc i have: xftfont sans-9 |
| 11:46.38 | jbmigel | when installing kqemu should i remove the qemu .deb package and rebuild or can i just slap in new kqemu module? |
| 11:46.44 | streuner | jhares: unstable? |
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| 11:47.14 | jhares | streuner: debian? testing |
| 11:47.15 | Guerin | jbmigel: if you're installing a non-debian-package, /msg dpks /usr/local |
| 11:47.23 | Guerin | s/dpks/dpkg/ |
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| 11:47.27 | liable | jethro: hmmm, more info, I cant get the qotd dump |
| 11:47.29 | kugg | when i try to compile apm as a module i get this: apm.ko needs unknown symbol default_idle && apm.ko needs unknown symbol machine_real_restart anyone knows what i can do about it? |
| 11:47.39 | jethro | !handhold liable |
| 11:47.42 | jethro | :) |
| 11:47.45 | liable | why are you compiling |
| 11:47.54 | liable | jethro: hehe |
| 11:48.06 | paulswm | !qotd110 |
| 11:48.06 | dpkg | < cOLDrIPPA> ok, i had logged into Debian correct and typed the user and pass now it is in like dos mode for windows anyone help |
| 11:48.26 | liable | jethro: bastard :) |
| 11:49.03 | jethro | liable: /exec -out for f in $(seq 1 n) ; do echo "/msg dpkg qotd$f"; sleep 3; done , n being the last qotd |
| 11:49.20 | Guerin | liable: /msg dpkg my factoids ; get the mysql dumps, select from factoid where name = qotd* ; ( or some valid mysql statement which I can't make up right now) |
| 11:49.37 | jethro | liable: or what Guerin said |
| 11:49.45 | liable | right |
| 11:49.52 | jethro | liable: or just rip paulswm's log :) |
| 11:50.01 | paulswm | Heh |
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| 11:50.03 | liable | much easier |
| 11:50.25 | Guerin | jethro's is way cooler |
| 11:50.46 | jethro | heh |
| 11:50.56 | amorphix | does this look the right dev kit for Sarge: ote.so.0 libkcddb.so.1 libnetsnmptrapd.so.5.1.2 sasl2 |
| 11:50.56 | amorphix | libgaim-remo |
| 11:51.02 | amorphix | oops |
| 11:51.27 | paulswm | There was a page with all the qotds on but it has been taken down. As I'm off for a few days, I'll make it a mission to do something similar, it will be the first page on one of my as yet unised 'linuxgeezer' domains |
| 11:51.41 | directhex|work | !dachs paulswm |
| 11:51.41 | dpkg | paulswm: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 11:51.42 | Guerin | hah |
| 11:51.49 | amorphix | libncurses5-dev tcl8.4-dev tk8.4-dev libgtk2.0-dev libx11-dev |
| 11:51.54 | Guerin | paulswm: give me a subdomain!!1 |
| 11:51.59 | Nigel | !qotd84 |
| 11:51.59 | dpkg | i heard qotd84 is <Guerin> i suck, you know this. |
| 11:52.07 | directhex|work | Guerin, you can have an apebox.org subdomain if you're good |
| 11:52.09 | paulswm | I am not a web genius, so don't hold your breath, that's why I haven't got any sites up yet., |
| 11:52.09 | Nigel | straight from the horses mouth |
| 11:52.21 | amorphix | ive got all these packages, but dunno if this is the right kit/versions for compiling stuff for X11 |
| 11:52.29 | Guerin | directhex|work: oook ook ook aak aak aak akk! |
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| 11:52.56 | liable | fuck, dpkg is freaking |
| 11:53.19 | Guerin | Nigel: ne'er a truer word spoken |
| 11:53.25 | takatumi | you'll probably flood him off soon. |
| 11:53.43 | liable | yeah, hes ignoring me for 5 mins |
| 11:53.44 | jethro | liable: don't hammer it, sleep 3 is a bit aggressive |
| 11:53.51 | Guerin | in fairness, you should have done ; sleep 20 ; |
| 11:53.52 | Guerin | yeah |
| 11:53.58 | liable | I think I killed him |
| 11:54.04 | jethro | you bastard |
| 11:54.09 | tra1a1a | :) |
| 11:54.10 | liable | yes |
| 11:54.12 | jethro | :) |
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| 11:54.23 | takatumi | liable: get the factoid dump, much easier. |
| 11:54.24 | Nigel | no, he's still responding |
| 11:54.31 | liable | hes still spazzing |
| 11:54.36 | jethro | he just ignored you |
| 11:54.44 | liable | hah |
| 11:54.46 | Nielsen | heh |
| 11:54.51 | liable | !ignore me |
| 11:55.11 | liable | ooh, that fucked him |
| 11:55.11 | yalu | is it possible to query the package database to see which packages are installed from which source (in case you use unofficial sources etc)? |
| 11:55.24 | Guerin | yes |
| 11:55.40 | liable | how do I stop it |
| 11:55.43 | Guerin | yalu: apt-cache policy <packagename> tells you which package is installed from wehrre |
| 11:55.49 | Guerin | or where, even |
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| 11:56.06 | tra1a1a | ctrl+c? |
| 11:56.13 | liable | takatumi: nah |
| 11:56.26 | paulswm | !qotd8 |
| 11:56.26 | dpkg | <Michiel1983> dpkg: I have problems with boot for the 2.6.9 kernel, I got a kernel panic:Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,3) On undernet they told me to: go to irc.freenode.net, join #debian and ask dpkg about bobbitt |
| 11:56.27 | yalu | Guerin: ok thanks... |
| 11:56.39 | paulswm | HAH |
| 11:56.43 | jethro | !bobbitt |
| 11:56.49 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. |
| 11:56.49 | amorphix | im f'kin dooooomed with this wacom driver |
| 11:56.52 | liable | fuck, i'll be ignored for like 5 years after this |
| 11:56.58 | jethro | heh |
| 11:57.07 | amorphix | may as just resign to fact my wacom will never work in linux |
| 11:57.23 | liable | jethro: you bastard, i blame you :) |
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| 11:57.46 | jethro | liable: why? |
| 11:57.53 | paulswm | France 1, Australia 0 :P |
| 11:57.57 | liable | jethro: joke dude |
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| 11:58.07 | jethro | what's the game? |
| 11:58.22 | liable | pheww, its stopped |
| 11:58.32 | yalu | lol @ dpkg |
| 11:58.32 | matsooky | hello |
| 11:58.34 | liable | jethro: dpkg freaking out |
| 11:58.47 | Guerin | jethro: it's your fault |
| 11:58.49 | jethro | liable: should I tell you to man ps and tell you how to find a process you want to kill? |
| 11:58.52 | jethro | ya |
| 11:58.52 | yalu | I mixed woody and sarge for ages, never had any problems :) |
| 11:59.03 | paulswm | jethro: he was kidding about getting ignored for like 5 years becasue he took your advice, poor attempt at humor on my part. |
| 11:59.03 | Guerin | jethro: dondelelcaro is going to pwn u when he waked up |
| 11:59.15 | jethro | next time I ll just put a some trojan commands if you run the commands blindly :p |
| 11:59.18 | abrotman | jethro: what did you do |
| 11:59.20 | liable | or me likely |
| 11:59.23 | directhex|work | aHA! found the config option |
| 11:59.31 | Guerin | abrotman: heh |
| 11:59.36 | Guerin | it was GOOD |
| 11:59.41 | jethro | man I was drunk last night |
| 11:59.43 | jethro | but it's ok |
| 11:59.44 | abrotman | i have n logs!! |
| 11:59.49 | abrotman | jethro: last night ? |
| 11:59.53 | jethro | abrotman: yes |
| 11:59.58 | paulswm | abrotman: good, we've actually had quite a lot of fun this morning |
| 11:59.59 | abrotman | jethro: i feel wishywashy still :) |
| 12:00.07 | abrotman | err .. no logs |
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| 12:00.16 | paulswm | Oh |
| 12:00.24 | abrotman | oh well |
| 12:00.27 | abrotman | guess i suck |
| 12:00.34 | Guerin | abrotman: 20:47:46 < jethro> liable: /exec -out for f in $(seq 1 n) ; do echo "/msg dpkg qotd$f"; sleep 3; done , n being the last qotd |
| 12:00.41 | paulswm | abrotman: well we'll have to stop talking about you now you're here anyway |
| 12:00.44 | Guerin | now you suckk a little bit less |
| 12:00.45 | jethro | :D |
| 12:00.55 | Guerin | and I typpe a litttle bitt worssse |
| 12:00.56 | liable | ok, so how can I get qotd, *without* freaking dpkg out |
| 12:00.59 | abrotman | paulswm: i don't mind .. carry on |
| 12:01.07 | paulswm | liable: my hard way :) |
| 12:01.11 | Guerin | liable: same, but do sleep 20 in between |
| 12:01.19 | Guerin | liable: it'll take ages, but you'll gettem |
| 12:01.26 | paulswm | !botabuse |
| 12:01.26 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 12:01.32 | paulswm | :D |
| 12:01.40 | liable | i'm scared now, dont like abusing dpkg |
| 12:01.52 | tra1a1a | liable: my factoids |
| 12:01.52 | paulswm | She likes it really |
| 12:02.08 | liable | tra1a1a: no way, thats way to much |
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| 12:02.59 | tra1a1a | what is way too much? 4.4 megs? |
| 12:03.40 | liable | sleep 30 be safe eh? |
| 12:04.03 | Nigel | maybe get away with 10 |
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| 12:04.18 | amorphix | what is an XF86 Build Environment |
| 12:04.37 | tarzeau | one that has xlibs-devf |
| 12:04.38 | amorphix | if im missing one, what do i need to fetch? |
| 12:04.41 | tarzeau | without f |
| 12:04.41 | amorphix | oh |
| 12:04.47 | amorphix | thanks |
| 12:04.48 | Nigel | hell, do sleep 0 :P |
| 12:05.09 | Guerin | 30 is safe |
| 12:05.14 | Guerin | it'll take most of an hour |
| 12:05.15 | tra1a1a | even on a dial up you can have it for less than an hour |
| 12:05.18 | liable | ok, 30 seems good |
| 12:05.34 | amorphix | think we're back in business |
| 12:06.01 | jetscreamer | why don't you just download the database, iirc it's not very large |
| 12:06.09 | abrotman | !sing abrotman |
| 12:06.09 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
| 12:06.34 | amorphix | my hdd is gonna die anyday now, is there a recommend way to do a mirror/restore to a new HDD to avoid having to do a fresh install |
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| 12:06.48 | amorphix | (this is a laptop) |
| 12:06.50 | Nigel | my /home/nigel dir is polluted.... |
| 12:07.04 | liable | sweey, no more dpkg freakots |
| 12:07.08 | liable | sweet |
| 12:07.11 | abrotman | well .. it's only 3.5GB |
| 12:07.16 | amorphix | are all IBM Travelstar hdd's noisey as hell or just the two I have? |
| 12:07.18 | liable | freakout too |
| 12:07.29 | abrotman | amorphix: my G40 HDD is fine |
| 12:07.47 | liable | mines as quiet as a mouse |
| 12:08.09 | amorphix | i got this laptop and the hdd had a very noisey whine on it from day 1, so i complained to the retailer and they sent me replacement drive, exact same make/model, and its exactly as noisey |
| 12:08.10 | abrotman | might be more quiet |
| 12:08.27 | abrotman | amorphix: maybe it's not the HDD ? |
| 12:08.37 | amorphix | good point, but what else could it be |
| 12:08.37 | Nigel | amorphix: they sent a replacement and didn't want the old one? |
| 12:08.43 | amorphix | ya |
| 12:08.47 | amorphix | didnt even want it |
| 12:08.52 | amorphix | 12GB drives |
| 12:09.11 | Nigel | it could have been a faulty batch... |
| 12:09.18 | abrotman | amorphix: cpu fan ? .. |
| 12:09.18 | amorphix | i wish i could fire up the hdd to test elsewhere |
| 12:09.26 | abrotman | amorphix: did you try another brand ? |
| 12:09.36 | amorphix | not yet |
| 12:09.55 | amorphix | theres a fan on the BOTTOM of this laptop strangely, that hardly ever comes on |
| 12:10.00 | amorphix | strange place to put a fan |
| 12:10.04 | abrotman | amorphix: i have one also |
| 12:10.06 | abrotman | and on the side |
| 12:10.19 | amorphix | theres just vents on the side of mine to let air in |
| 12:10.29 | directhex|work | my laptop has a single fan on the bottom, with the exhaust on the side |
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| 12:10.42 | amorphix | oh thats same as mine then |
| 12:10.47 | amorphix | is yours a Compaq? |
| 12:10.51 | directhex|work | dell. |
| 12:11.11 | amorphix | well this noise sucks |
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| 12:11.25 | amorphix | if its the CPU fan that means taking the thing apart, i dont fancy that |
| 12:11.27 | directhex|work | my laptop's pretty much silent without the fan on |
| 12:11.29 | directhex|work | which is nice |
| 12:11.48 | abrotman | pretty much ? |
| 12:12.16 | amorphix | whenever i take laptops apart i always end up with spare parts after its been put together |
| 12:12.25 | Nigel | amorphix: lol |
| 12:12.28 | amorphix | hehe |
| 12:12.49 | amorphix | might just sell this on and let someone else have a go at it |
| 12:12.50 | abrotman | amorphix: maybe you dropped a screw in there ..and that's the noise |
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| 12:13.00 | abrotman | amorphix: what country are you in ? |
| 12:13.05 | amorphix | its well noisey |
| 12:13.07 | amorphix | UK |
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| 12:13.17 | abrotman | amorphix: good .. basically no chance i'd buy it then :) |
| 12:13.22 | amorphix | hehe |
| 12:13.22 | directhex|work | i would recommend the laptop i have, with the proviso that debian's a dead loss on there. ubuntu is flawless though |
| 12:13.46 | liable | eh? |
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| 12:13.56 | HansZ | hello there |
| 12:14.02 | tra1a1a | !irritate directhex|work |
| 12:14.03 | dpkg | directhex|work: Y iz debain so old? where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol !!!! |
| 12:14.07 | petemc | directhex|work: would that not imply that, with the appropriate amount of effort, debian would work too |
| 12:14.12 | tarzeau | !ubuntu |
| 12:14.12 | dpkg | ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879, or "Based on Debian" like Hollywood movies are "Based on a true story" |
| 12:14.17 | HansZ | Can someone help me with the fglrx drivers, It says there's not device section for busid.... |
| 12:14.19 | abrotman | petemc: it would IMO :) |
| 12:14.23 | amorphix | debian was easy to setup on this Compaq M700 but i chose it well after checking successes on linux on laptops site |
| 12:14.27 | tarzeau | HansZ: you can use "vesa" driver |
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| 12:14.43 | HansZ | tarzeau: for an ati card :/ ? |
| 12:14.47 | tarzeau | HansZ: yes |
| 12:14.53 | abrotman | HansZ: or ask #ati |
| 12:15.00 | HansZ | tarzeau: Is the performance better with vesa? |
| 12:15.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: and play #bub-n-bros ? |
| 12:15.05 | directhex|work | petemc, yes, it would, assuming you use a kernel that's not in debian, with patches not in debian, with an x server not in debian. and assorted other utilities not in debian or with patches not in debian |
| 12:15.12 | tarzeau | HansZ: twice as good as with the "nv" driver |
| 12:15.20 | HansZ | heh ! |
| 12:15.23 | tarzeau | HansZ: on a otherwise same machine with a same recent nvidia card |
| 12:15.26 | Jori1 | hi, anyone there with some knowledge on kernel memoryfootprints and other requirements ? |
| 12:15.31 | tra1a1a | !be a ati barbie |
| 12:15.32 | dpkg | Aww, ati is hard! Let's go shopping, tra1a1a |
| 12:15.33 | HansZ | tarzeau: That's great to hear |
| 12:15.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: erm ... gotta back to go to bahstin |
| 12:15.40 | liable | directhex|work: aww, cmon thats a bit much |
| 12:15.49 | tarzeau | HansZ: i haven't tried the "vesa" on the nvidia card one yet |
| 12:15.52 | HansZ | tarzeau: Do have to change Driver "ati" to Driver "versa" |
| 12:15.59 | tarzeau | HansZ: yes without r |
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| 12:16.10 | HansZ | ok |
| 12:16.11 | abrotman | tarzeau: but no work today! |
| 12:16.17 | directhex|work | liable, it's accurate though |
| 12:16.17 | HansZ | Trying out, brb |
| 12:16.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: yay! |
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| 12:16.22 | abrotman | shit .. i should really get out of here and go shower :) |
| 12:16.32 | abrotman | bbiab .. gotta pack and shit |
| 12:17.00 | liable | directhex|work: really, for what hardware? |
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| 12:17.21 | directhex|work | liable, xfree86 4.3 doesn't support graphics solutions from the past 12 months, including the onboard intel i915. debian's kernels have somewhat iffy i915 motherboard support, and zero support for dothan-core pentium m frequency scaling |
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| 12:17.24 | dirk_ | hi |
| 12:17.25 | xerophyte | oes anybody know how to print sendmail email queue if you have different configuration file .. for each virtual domains unders chroot ? |
| 12:17.35 | petemc | mailq ? |
| 12:17.37 | dirk_ | can anyone help me with prismstumbler? |
| 12:17.41 | pwned | whatever opengl example I use, when I compile and link with a line like: gcc test.c -lGL -lglut , the drawing surface is always the same as the background. I use nvidia drivers, do I do something wrong? |
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| 12:17.51 | tarzeau | directhex|work: and whose fault is that? |
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| 12:18.03 | directhex|work | tarzeau, obviously mine, because i have hardware from the past year? |
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| 12:18.18 | Jori1 | uhm, i'm looking what kernel best to run on a pentium 200mhz with 48MB of ram |
| 12:18.19 | liable | directhex|work: and all absolutely neccesary to run debian? |
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| 12:18.24 | pwned | are debian GL and glut libraries broken? |
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| 12:18.31 | dirk_ | prismstumbler won' t start up, and there is no error meassages |
| 12:18.38 | tarzeau | pwned: which driver? |
| 12:18.39 | gandy909 | what's the commandto see what available packages there are without installing one? |
| 12:18.42 | dirk_ | i' m running sid |
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| 12:18.45 | HansZ | tarzeau: strange green lines on the desktop.. after that it crashes and reload the standard 'ati' driver |
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| 12:18.46 | pwned | tarzeau: nvidia like I said |
| 12:18.46 | jetscreamer | apt-file |
| 12:18.48 | tarzeau | gandy909: apt-cache pkgnames |
| 12:18.49 | jetscreamer | apt-cache |
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| 12:19.07 | tarzeau | HansZ: strange, worked here very well |
| 12:19.11 | amorphix | hell, still cant get my wacom driver to compile.. says i dont have XF86 build enviro still, but i installed xlibs-dev. theres more? |
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| 12:19.22 | directhex|work | liable, not at all. i run ubuntu, and absolutely everything works out of the box, other than removing a single comment for suspend-to-ram to function. 3d, wireless, speedstep, those are all perfect |
| 12:19.35 | HansZ | tarzeau: Maybe because i've got the fglrx drivers installed? - how to uninstall it, i installed it with the .deb package |
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| 12:19.51 | directhex|work | amorphix, x-window-system-dev |
| 12:19.54 | amorphix | phew |
| 12:19.55 | dirk_ | mmm silly |
| 12:19.59 | amorphix | thanks |
| 12:20.08 | tapia | hi |
| 12:20.10 | dirk_ | cos there is no information on google.nl/linux |
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| 12:20.27 | dirk_ | about usr/bin/pst |
| 12:20.29 | liable | directhex|work: surely it'll work with a tweak or two with debian then? apart from xorg which is coming |
| 12:20.41 | directhex|work | amorphix, even better, apt-get build-dep wacom-kernel-source |
| 12:20.41 | tapia | does the kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 have the tg3 ethernet card support? |
| 12:20.48 | directhex|work | tapia, no |
| 12:20.51 | tapia | 2.6.8 has it |
| 12:20.58 | tapia | directhex|work: what can I do then? |
| 12:21.02 | liable | directhex|work: I dont get it, why cant it work with debian |
| 12:21.03 | tarzeau | tapia: run 2.6.8 |
| 12:21.08 | tapia | I wouldn't like to compile it |
| 12:21.10 | pwned | the latest nvidia driver by the way |
| 12:21.11 | amorphix | damn, 80megs just to compile a 40k a driver |
| 12:21.13 | dirk_ | mowing the lawn or something |
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| 12:21.28 | amorphix | my laptops hdd is gonna be maxed at this rate |
| 12:21.34 | tapia | tarzeau: 2.6.8 give me some problems with my SATA hard disk |
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| 12:21.46 | tarzeau | tapia: don't run 2.6.8 |
| 12:21.51 | afaict | Hi Foolks. I dont know where to ask this question. |
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| 12:22.00 | tapia | tarzeau: so... ? |
| 12:22.12 | tarzeau | afaict: is it related to debian? |
| 12:22.16 | tra1a1a | afaict: don't ask it then |
| 12:22.21 | directhex|work | liable, define "work". with debian, i would need to make a custom installer (no ich6 support in 2.6.8), which would allow me to install an x-less system with no batter saving ability. why on god's green earth would i do this, given i could install an os which "just works" for what i want it to do? |
| 12:22.22 | afaict | tarzeau, too. |
| 12:22.41 | directhex|work | liable, i've tried ubuntu on desktops, and it's inappropriate for my needs, but it's really a work of art as a laptop os |
| 12:22.54 | afaict | What project should I use to setup my bind dns zones using database? Mysqlbind ? |
| 12:23.00 | tapia | directhex|work: is there any way to use tg3 with a kernel > 2.6.8 ? |
| 12:23.06 | tapia | directhex|work: without compiling it? |
| 12:23.07 | zignig | directhex|work: it makes a nice 'desktop/newbie' machine. |
| 12:23.11 | directhex|work | tapia, no |
| 12:23.23 | afaict | tra1a1a, tarzeau where should I do this question ? |
| 12:23.30 | leoncamel | hi , what is NONUS in debian-30r5-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso mean ? |
| 12:23.37 | tra1a1a | afaict: how about google? |
| 12:23.39 | tapia | directhex|work: and 2.6.11 don't have tg3 support, or only the debian package? |
| 12:24.00 | directhex|work | tapia, it's not in debian, due to non-free formware issues |
| 12:24.05 | tapia | oh |
| 12:24.06 | zignig | leoncamel: it has encryption in it that can not be exported out of the USA. |
| 12:24.06 | directhex|work | leoncamel, why are you getting debian 3.0? |
| 12:24.06 | tapia | ok |
| 12:24.06 | afaict | tra1a1a, i did it a lot. I would like the answer here... |
| 12:24.10 | liable | directhex|work: ok, I dont really understand what ubuntu does for you that debian doesnt, so, Ill shut up |
| 12:24.12 | tapia | directhex|work: thank you |
| 12:25.03 | zerozero` | can someone tell me where i can find the meaning of this: Received signal 4, exiting... |
| 12:25.19 | tra1a1a | zerozero`: man kill |
| 12:25.30 | directhex|work | liable, it workes with the fucking hardware/? what's so hard about this? |
| 12:26.03 | zignig | directhex|work: where you working now ? , is it like real employment. |
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| 12:26.19 | directhex|work | zignig, i'm a unix systems manager at oxford university |
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| 12:26.49 | zignig | directhex|work: nice :) |
| 12:27.05 | directhex|work | zignig, specifically, i admin solaris & red hat, for the supercomputing facility |
| 12:27.05 | Nielsen | oxford, UK? |
| 12:27.07 | jm_ | manager? yuck ;) |
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| 12:27.22 | zignig | directhex|work: woot , clusters of mainframes ? |
| 12:27.24 | directhex|work | Nielsen, i didn't thin oxford usa had a university |
| 12:27.35 | CrAzYWolF | g |
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| 12:27.43 | liable | directhex|work: exactly, so why the fuck wont debian wotk |
| 12:27.59 | revenger1 | hmm.. can anyone help me with that? /tcp server failing (looping), service terminated |
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| 12:28.06 | directhex|work | zignig, x86 clusters, and largeish scale multi-way sparc |
| 12:28.11 | revenger1 | inetd denies executing a script after a while |
| 12:28.20 | petemc | liable: it will work, with the appropriate amount of effort, which isnt needed if you use ubuntu |
| 12:28.21 | paulswm | WHich occasionally breaks :P |
| 12:28.22 | directhex|work | liable, because debian provides neither a kernel nor x server which can cope |
| 12:28.28 | zignig | directhex|work: wicked, running redhat not debian :( |
| 12:28.29 | Nielsen | directhex|work: that would have been my next question ;) |
| 12:28.31 | js_ | revenger1: you could try another inetd or xinetd |
| 12:28.41 | js_ | revenger1: i use openbsd-inetd, it works the best for me |
| 12:28.42 | revenger1 | js_: is there no option to disable that shit? |
| 12:28.48 | js_ | no idea |
| 12:28.52 | liable | directhex|work: you saying you cant get xorg? |
| 12:29.07 | directhex|work | liable, i'm saying that at that point, why fucking bother? it's a computer,m not a religion |
| 12:29.11 | leoncamel | hi, directhex|work, which version should i use ? |
| 12:29.24 | directhex|work | leoncamel, i can't think of any reason to use 3.0 |
| 12:29.26 | revenger1 | js_: either the inetd manpage is incomplete or inetd is really shitty |
| 12:29.26 | directhex|work | !d-i leoncamel |
| 12:29.27 | dpkg | leoncamel, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 12:29.44 | zignig | directhex|work: hehe , the new installer is great. |
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| 12:30.20 | tra1a1a | revenger1_: so either fix the man page or the program |
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| 12:31.11 | liable | directhex|work: ok, so why are you here, rather than ubuntu? not an insult, but fuck, what are you saying |
| 12:31.13 | revenger1 | tra1a1a: well it's nowait.<value> in inittab hopefully it will fix the problem |
| 12:31.14 | paulswm | Well, my take on it is that the sarge installer doesn't suck as bad as the woody installer, but the partitioning/filesystem setup is a little cumbersome |
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| 12:31.53 | zignig | paulswm: but you can fully automate it for remote no fuss installs |
| 12:31.57 | jharrisonwk | the partitioning/filesystem setup is a little cumbersome? |
| 12:32.31 | directhex|work | liable, i run ubuntu on *one* system, which debian can't cope with. i run more than one computer. and i've been giving free technical support out in #debian for over a year, thankyousoverymuch |
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| 12:32.47 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, it is when you get mdadm involved, certainly |
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| 12:32.55 | kneet | It certainly feels cumbersome when you're using d-i to install to an lvm setup. A fair bit of back and forward. But - it did work. |
| 12:32.58 | liable | directhex|work: yes, dont take that comment the wrong way |
| 12:33.00 | jharrisonwk | directhex|work: um ok |
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| 12:33.06 | jharrisonwk | directhex|work: I disagree |
| 12:33.24 | leoncamel | hi , what is different between debian-installer and ISO install ? |
| 12:33.24 | jetscreamer | hey directhex|work how about putting seti on your machines and using my email address for work units... :o |
| 12:33.42 | jetscreamer | one is on the cd and the other you d/l off the net |
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| 12:34.05 | jetscreamer | and the cd after you install it then you download it off the net (updates) |
| 12:34.09 | directhex|work | leoncamel, debian-installer is the installer for debian 3.1 |
| 12:34.12 | paulswm | kneet: Yes, that's my point. I know what I'm doing very well with disks, and I did a lot of back-and-forth before I finally understood how to use it. |
| 12:34.46 | directhex|work | leoncamel, your earlier url was for debian 3.0, which has difficulty with hardware made this millenium, and is an absolute pain to install & configure right. just use 3.1 |
| 12:34.56 | paulswm | kneet: And I already had my disks partitioned :) |
| 12:34.59 | kneet | paulswm, same here. Took me a while to find out that you have to set up any non lwm plus the lwm area first - then back and forward a bit to add the phys extents etc |
| 12:35.58 | paulswm | kneet: Yes, the lvm was the fly in the ointment, I found myself actually taking to the installer and using bad words :) |
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| 12:35.58 | jetscreamer | why lvm, software raid or is there another reason |
| 12:35.58 | kneet | paulswm, and - this was the first time I had decided to go for lvm - so - although it was awkward - it was poss to figure out |
| 12:36.17 | paulswm | lvm makes it easy to manage filesystem size changes, etc |
| 12:36.18 | kneet | jetscreamer, I use a combination of lvm + xfs to be able to extend disks on a live box |
| 12:36.41 | gandy909 | trying to set hosts.allow to allow my cohort access to my system. he has a dyndns hostname, but he always resolves to the sbc adsl-ip.blah when connecting. Is there a way toget around this problem? |
| 12:36.43 | kneet | so - if usr gets full I can add 1G to it while the machine is still serving requests |
| 12:36.51 | kneet | etc etc |
| 12:37.01 | jetscreamer | cool |
| 12:37.05 | paulswm | jetscreamer: read the lvm howto, that gives a pretty good idea of why or when you might want to use it. I have all filesystems lvmed except for a small root and boot. |
| 12:37.28 | kneet | jetscreamer, yes - very. I tried it once and hav now converted all machines to it |
| 12:37.38 | leoncamel | but, must i use the debian-installer ? Does debian-install is easy to install debian, and i must download the debian iso file although i have already get debian-installer ? |
| 12:37.41 | paulswm | lvm si teh win. |
| 12:37.49 | kneet | paulswm, same here - kept / as ext3 at the start of disk |
| 12:37.59 | jetscreamer | no you don't have to d/l the full iso |
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| 12:38.20 | jetscreamer | download the 115 meg or the 56 meg (iirc) images and burn em to cd |
| 12:38.23 | paulswm | kneet: Yeah, me too and separate /boot as I have more than one installation |
| 12:38.29 | jetscreamer | s/images/image/ |
| 12:38.36 | incorrect | is it possible to direct traffic to a certain gateway depending on the interface? |
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| 12:38.43 | kneet | Only issue I have with xfs is that you can't reduce an xfs file system - however - that's a rarity for me |
| 12:38.50 | liable | it doesnt hurt to have cd1 though |
| 12:39.02 | paulswm | I stick with ext3 for all filesystems. |
| 12:39.23 | kneet | paulswm, but then you have to unmount to resize |
| 12:39.25 | pwned | OK I found the problem. With nvidia, when you don't have nvidia-glx-dev and you do -lGL, you will get broken surfaces instead of your card's hardware |
| 12:39.25 | jetscreamer | ext3 has a 120meg footprint on a virgin 4.4g partition |
| 12:39.36 | jetscreamer | jfs has 850k or so |
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| 12:40.05 | Davey|Work | How is PCMCIA WNIC support in Debian? |
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| 12:40.19 | tra1a1a | I use reiserfs |
| 12:40.23 | liable | Davey|Work: ask google |
| 12:40.29 | paulswm | kneet: That's OK for me, I am more concerned with the integrity of the fs after a power out, I live in the lightning capital of the world, and ext3 is cheaper than UPSes :) |
| 12:40.35 | kneet | Heh |
| 12:40.48 | Davey|Work | liable: its 8:40am, I don't think I can even spell it ;) |
| 12:40.49 | liable | !ricer |
| 12:40.50 | dpkg | i heard ricer is at gentoo |
| 12:40.55 | jm_ | jetscreamer: ext2/ext3 reserve certain amount of space for root by default, are you sure that wasn't it? |
| 12:40.57 | liable | !ricerfs |
| 12:40.58 | dpkg | hmm... ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
| 12:40.58 | kneet | Had a powercut here - one box (XFS) came up like a dream - the other (ext3) is still down for repairs |
| 12:41.32 | jetscreamer | jm_: no i'm not sure, good point. (i knew that :/ ) |
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| 12:41.43 | paulswm | Heh, I haven't broken ext3 yet and I did do some power-out testing. Incidentally XP's NTFS tested pretty well, too. |
| 12:41.50 | directhex|work | i've only ever lost data under linux with ext3 |
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| 12:42.02 | liable | true? |
| 12:42.18 | jharrisonwk | !fs comparison |
| 12:42.18 | dpkg | i heard filesystem comparison is http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html or http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ |
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| 12:42.41 | tra1a1a | !be a reiserfs barbie |
| 12:42.41 | dpkg | Aww, reiserfs is hard! Let's go shopping, tra1a1a |
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| 12:42.57 | Cyano-mobile | hmmm mobile irc |
| 12:43.05 | zignig | directhex|work: backups are your friend. |
| 12:43.31 | tra1a1a | indeed |
| 12:43.48 | tra1a1a | if you lose data it's your *own* fault not your fs's |
| 12:44.15 | zignig | tra1a1a: indeed, even for home data I run bacula onto CD. |
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| 12:44.26 | kneet | tra1a1a, well - with a nightly backup you can always lose up to 24hrs worth |
| 12:44.39 | paulswm | That fs factoid doesn't point to any reliability testing. |
| 12:44.39 | HansZ | tarzeau: Can you help me around.. ? |
| 12:44.42 | leoncamel | hi, where should i download the 3.1 debian iso ? |
| 12:44.56 | pitillo | hi all |
| 12:44.56 | zignig | kneet: hourly rsyncs if your data is that important. |
| 12:44.57 | tra1a1a | kneet: if it's really worth you will use more frequent backups |
| 12:45.05 | zignig | tra1a1a: snap! |
| 12:45.12 | kneet | tra1a1a, true enough |
| 12:45.15 | paulswm | !qotd81 |
| 12:45.15 | dpkg | <ricky_clarkson> kinema: Always back up your data. <kinema> ricky_clarkson: interesting idea. i think i'll do that. |
| 12:45.25 | tra1a1a | :) |
| 12:45.27 | kneet | Interesting comment: under ext3 on the linuxmafia site: "It is designed to be forgiving of the failure modes of commodity x86 hardware, which can be dangerous to data." |
| 12:45.30 | paulswm | Intersting idea, HAH |
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| 12:46.08 | tra1a1a | zignig: meruns tar and dvdrw for home backup |
| 12:46.10 | HansZ | How to fix this up: Fglrx: No device section for busid... found |
| 12:46.32 | tra1a1a | we don't know, HansZ |
| 12:46.38 | tra1a1a | you're on your own there |
| 12:46.47 | jetscreamer | leoncamel: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status |
| 12:46.49 | zignig | tra1a1a: bacula make for easy restores for specific files |
| 12:47.14 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: did you run fglconfig or some such? |
| 12:47.26 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: yea i did |
| 12:47.28 | paulswm | Anyway, journalling filesystem or RAID can only save you from unexpected crashes, not from stupidity |
| 12:47.29 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: maybe fglrxconfig |
| 12:47.36 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: what kind of card do you have? |
| 12:47.38 | liable | true |
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| 12:47.51 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: Radeon 9600 PRO XT |
| 12:47.56 | zignig | paulswm: and there is an infinte supply of stupidity around. :) |
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| 12:48.04 | caphuso | paulswm: they can protect you from some stupidity :) |
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| 12:48.07 | liable | also true |
| 12:48.08 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: it has DVI and VGA right? |
| 12:48.14 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: That's right |
| 12:48.21 | tra1a1a | zignig: I'll have a look |
| 12:48.43 | zignig | tra1a1a: the doc is good and comprehensive. |
| 12:48.57 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: you might need to edit the XF86Config-4 file and find the PCIbus part and change from 1.0.1 to 1.0.0 or something like that |
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| 12:49.10 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: sounds like its using the wrong pcibus setting |
| 12:49.21 | jetscreamer | here it's 1:0:0 |
| 12:49.33 | jetscreamer | does . work too? |
| 12:49.37 | HansZ | It's configured as 1:0:0, but it says it can't find it on 1.0.0.1 |
| 12:49.40 | tra1a1a | zignig: that's good to know. At the end my time here wasn't entirely lost. |
| 12:50.07 | jharrisonwk | yeah |
| 12:50.09 | jharrisonwk | thats good |
| 12:50.15 | jharrisonwk | jetscreamer: was not sure if it was . or : |
| 12:50.16 | zignig | tra1a1a: not like a normal IRC day ;/ |
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| 12:50.24 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: so 1:0:0 |
| 12:50.35 | tra1a1a | zignig: yeah... |
| 12:50.40 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: it's already configured by that |
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| 12:50.50 | paulswm | caphuso: Yes, I have achieved an undelete on ext3, not an easy task, so that cancelled out my stupid 'rm' :) |
| 12:50.54 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: which port are you using? |
| 12:50.59 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: the dvi or vga? |
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| 12:51.06 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: Vga |
| 12:51.16 | jharrisonwk | hhmmm |
| 12:51.38 | paulswm | zignig: Yeah but if you weren't here you'd probably be wasting time working or reading or having real human relationships :) |
| 12:51.41 | caphuso | paulswm: how did you do it? ext3rminator or manual disk editing? |
| 12:51.45 | TbbW | hello |
| 12:51.56 | TbbW | im about to download debian dvd image |
| 12:52.04 | tra1a1a | paulswm: you're so right :))) |
| 12:52.05 | TbbW | it got 2 verions of this dvd image |
| 12:52.19 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log | grep EE |
| 12:52.21 | liable | TbbW: dont do it |
| 12:52.27 | TbbW | one is stable and the other one is testing |
| 12:52.30 | paulswm | caphuso: Manual disk editing. I removed two spreadsheets, but I was able to find a string in the first block which I grepped the device for, and I knw each file was only two blocks |
| 12:52.40 | liable | TbbW: just use the net install |
| 12:52.56 | liable | TbbW: or at the most get cd1 + 2 |
| 12:53.01 | TbbW | liable: problem is the comp im gonna use it on is not connected to the net |
| 12:53.12 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit Failed! |
| 12:53.19 | TbbW | and i kinda want all packages on one dvd :P |
| 12:53.30 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: is the fglrx module loaded? |
| 12:53.31 | TbbW | instead of 7cds |
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| 12:53.53 | paulswm | caphuso: so in each case, I dded the two blocks to a file, and then Openoffice trimmed the extraneous stuff at the end of the second block when I loaded the file. |
| 12:53.58 | liable | TbbW: cd1 + 2 will cover just about all any *normal* person will need |
| 12:53.58 | zignig | paulswm: hehe, true. |
| 12:54.05 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: nope, As it is configured in XFree |
| 12:54.09 | zignig | paulswm: but I do have a real life , honest. |
| 12:54.20 | caphuso | paulswm: yeah, fun job, isn't it? |
| 12:54.29 | paulswm | zignig: I was going to get one, but real lives are *so expensive* |
| 12:54.35 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: as far as I know you must modprobe fglrx |
| 12:54.43 | TbbW | liable: well lets just say the need of a package that is not on cd1 or 2 has hapend sometimes b4 so i kinda want a dvd |
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| 12:54.58 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: Fatal: Module fglrx not found. |
| 12:54.58 | paulswm | caphuso: yes, actually, a nice sense of achievement when it works :) |
| 12:55.06 | zignig | paulswm: they are, the bodyguards, groupies and the krew get kind of pricey. |
| 12:55.08 | liable | TbbW: ok, go ahead, continue |
| 12:55.22 | TbbW | but the problem is that i need kinda newer versions of the packages then i.e. gtkmm 1.2 thats in the woody dist |
| 12:55.41 | TbbW | so my question was is testing version okey or suld i stick to stable |
| 12:55.53 | zignig | TbbW: what are you using it for? |
| 12:56.10 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: you must go into /lib/modules/fglrx/build-mod and make the modules |
| 12:56.26 | paulswm | TbbW: testing is okay for almost everything, now testing is getting security updates |
| 12:56.42 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: No such directory, anyways I've downloaded the binarys |
| 12:56.51 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: you have X configured for fglrx but you do not have the fglrx driver installed |
| 12:56.54 | TbbW | zignig: desktop with x and some other extra programs for a workstation and a wlan card ( admtek already got the driver ) |
| 12:57.05 | paulswm | TbbW: testing. |
| 12:57.12 | TbbW | ty :) |
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| 12:57.19 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: perhaps you should go to #ati |
| 12:57.20 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: I did, the binary one |
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| 12:57.57 | directhex|work | HansZ, please, for the love of god, google for "ati flavio" and DO EXACTLY AS IT SAYS |
| 12:57.58 | liable | TbbW: ffs, why wouldnt that shit be on cd1, let alone cd2? |
| 12:58.03 | MikeCamel | hmm - just lost all of my rfcomm* device files in /dev/. Any ideas? Using udev. |
| 12:58.09 | directhex|work | it's not fecking optional, you NEED to do it |
| 12:58.11 | zignig | TbbW: go for testing. |
| 12:58.18 | directhex|work | MikeCamel, plug in your bluetooth adapter |
| 12:58.26 | MikeCamel | laptop. integral |
| 12:58.33 | zerozero` | dont wanna distrub you guys but is there any one who sets up an et pro gameserver successful ? |
| 12:58.38 | paulswm | TbbW: you might want to identify it as 'sarge' rather than 'testing' in your sources.list, so you will continue to track sarge when it goes stable, then once testing has settled down again you can choose to stay with sarge or track testing. |
| 12:58.49 | HansZ | directhex|work: dude.. your interupting a conversation, haven't you learned anything of your parents |
| 12:59.08 | paulswm | !dude |
| 12:59.10 | jm_ | haha the fool's at work again |
| 12:59.14 | paulswm | :( |
| 12:59.40 | liable | g'nite debians |
| 12:59.49 | jethro | !irritate me |
| 12:59.50 | dpkg | jethro: hi every1 how does I run teh grafixx windows ????? |
| 12:59.51 | afaict | I would like to setup all my dns zones using database. How do I do that ? I have bind and MySQL |
| 13:00.05 | paulswm | libv: have a safe night |
| 13:00.12 | paulswm | liable: have a safe night |
| 13:00.14 | liable | !bite jethro |
| 13:00.19 | paulswm | libv: sorry wrong nick |
| 13:00.20 | petemc | afaict: if you dont know how to do it, why do you want to do it? |
| 13:00.20 | liable | paulswm: :) |
| 13:00.25 | jethro | don't bite me you bot killer |
| 13:00.26 | jethro | :p |
| 13:00.31 | paulswm | HAH |
| 13:00.31 | liable | hahaha |
| 13:00.38 | yaccobb | is dpkg aviable for free use ? |
| 13:00.40 | liable | bastard |
| 13:00.44 | yaccobb | :-P |
| 13:00.53 | fhffhqvb | aviable? you're asking if dpkg can fly? |
| 13:01.54 | directhex|work | HansZ, if your conversation were oh-so-private, you'd be having it via private message or DCC chat. as it stands, the last thing you were told was to go to #ati for support, and you're arguing with jharrisonwk whi is trying to help you. as the agent of your own misfortune, i suggest you actually listen to the advice offered, because the fact that it's not working for you means you are NOT the authority on the topic, and need to LISTEN and OBE |
| 13:01.54 | directhex|work | Y in order to get it working |
| 13:02.07 | yaccobb | fhffhqvb: oh, please, your Majesty, forgive me I haven't born in english-speaking country... Next life I surely will :-P I meant for download;) |
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| 13:02.34 | zignig | afaict: have a look at mydns-mysql |
| 13:02.43 | directhex|work | as it happens, dpkg can't fly, but can moo. |
| 13:02.45 | directhex|work | !moo |
| 13:02.46 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939 |
| 13:02.46 | paulswm | yaccobb: dpkg is GPLed |
| 13:02.58 | jethro | yaccobb: blootbot.sf.net |
| 13:02.59 | paulswm | !prize directhex|work |
| 13:03.07 | zignig | mmmm beer |
| 13:03.12 | HansZ | directhex|work: The people in #ati are not listening/afk, And your not friendly against me at all |
| 13:03.14 | yaccobb | paulswm, jethro : thanks |
| 13:03.17 | paulswm | Hah I was assuming dpkg the package, not dpkg the bot |
| 13:03.23 | afaict | zignig, mydns-mysql ? thanks! |
| 13:03.42 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: I have been compiling and using fglrx for a while and I dont care if you have some binary or not you still need to make the module |
| 13:03.46 | zignig | afaict: apt-cache search dns mysql ; easy and fun ;P |
| 13:04.01 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: k |
| 13:04.03 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: or you can check out flavio like directhex|work suggested for .debs |
| 13:04.12 | paulswm | HansZ: change your nick to something like "fluffybunnygirl", go back to #ati and ask again :P |
| 13:04.14 | directhex|work | HansZ, okay. "have some ice cream, NOW go google 'ati flavio' and obey the site". friendly enough? you do NOT know what you're doing, yet are arguing that you know better than those who DO know. |
| 13:04.21 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: if you are patient in #ati they will help you too |
| 13:04.31 | jharrisonwk | paulswm: heh |
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| 13:04.44 | paulswm | jharrisonwk: :) I bet it would work. |
| 13:04.51 | jethro | HansZ: "Don't be demanding [...]. Remeber, we're all volunteers" |
| 13:04.52 | jm_ | I hope that will make you part #debian |
| 13:04.54 | zignig | paulswm: there was a local band called 'fluffy pink bunnies' |
| 13:05.09 | zignig | paulswm: they were death thrash metal. ;/ |
| 13:05.09 | yaccobb | HansZ: i was AFk but it seems you are installing ati... what'S your problem ? |
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| 13:05.17 | tra1a1a | hahahaha :) bug 175939 pwnz |
| 13:05.25 | directhex|work | yaccobb, he's unable to do as he's been told, so it won't work. the problem is a pinkware error. |
| 13:05.35 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: sure this channel can be ruff but you arent listening so what do you expect |
| 13:05.35 | doggie | best bug in debian? |
| 13:05.41 | paulswm | zignig: Man, that's a severe disconnect between name and sound :) |
| 13:05.43 | HansZ | yaccobb: problems installing binary fglrx, but i'm already compiling the source.. thanks anyway :) |
| 13:06.01 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: I'm listening, don't lie |
| 13:06.06 | jharrisonwk | HansZ: at least no one is telling you to try rm -rf / |
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| 13:06.26 | yaccobb | HansZ: if you will compile it and it will work... I'll be your servant to the end of the universe. |
| 13:06.26 | tra1a1a | although this would help us all |
| 13:06.27 | HansZ | jharrisonwk: lol I woulden't listen to that.. |
| 13:06.33 | paulswm | !qotd71 |
| 13:06.33 | dpkg | [qotd71] <kbrooks> i believe /var gets rm -rf'd at every boot |
| 13:06.38 | paulswm | HAHA |
| 13:06.39 | HansZ | yaccobb: :> |
| 13:06.47 | zignig | paulswm: that was the idea I think. :) |
| 13:06.48 | yaccobb | HansZ: well, perhaps not so long, but... :-P |
| 13:06.50 | jethro | :) |
| 13:07.03 | zignig | paulswm: the heavy metal names are soooo predicatble most of the time |
| 13:07.14 | directhex|work | yaccobb, fglrx works fine, fsvo "fine". using flavio stanchina's instructions is the key, and following them TO THE LETTER is vital. |
| 13:07.23 | zignig | paulswm: panterra , anthrax , pungent stench , etc etc. |
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| 13:07.36 | HansZ | directhex|work: caps, warning #1/100 :P |
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| 13:08.08 | yaccobb | directhex|work: sure, but compiling kernel succesfully isn't so easy i think (i AM using fglrx from flavio) |
| 13:08.15 | tra1a1a | HansZ: don't be a moron |
| 13:08.17 | paulswm | zignig: I have heard several which I would have named "Tone Deaf Assholes" :) |
| 13:08.24 | HansZ | tra1a1a: don't be such a non-humor person |
| 13:08.28 | jharrisonwk | there was a guy that came to our lug and could not get sound working so he kept asking us what to do about it. So a friend of mine would try to help him and tell him things to do but this guy was convinced that my friend was wrong and what he was telling him to do would not work. So finally my friend says ok this will work for sure just do dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda |
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| 13:08.38 | jharrisonwk | so the guy does it and says hey sound is still not working |
| 13:08.45 | jharrisonwk | so my friend says oh yeah you have to reboot |
| 13:08.46 | paulswm | No shit |
| 13:08.47 | jharrisonwk | :) |
| 13:08.51 | tra1a1a | HansZ: there is nothing funny in your attempts to get fucked by dpkg |
| 13:09.06 | HansZ | tra1a1a: off-topic |
| 13:09.08 | directhex|work | yaccobb, you do not need to recompile your kernel at all for fglrx. |
| 13:09.22 | jharrisonwk | Yaakov: kernel-headers |
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| 13:09.34 | jharrisonwk | yaccobb: kernel-headers |
| 13:09.39 | paulswm | !qotd14 |
| 13:09.40 | dpkg | <veleno> Guerin: i don't know what a moron is. |
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| 13:09.41 | tra1a1a | HansZ: you're off-topic here with your ati problems |
| 13:09.47 | yaccobb | directhex|work: I KNOW. but HansZ said HE is recompiling kernel. So i said I don'T think it's good idea. |
| 13:09.47 | jharrisonwk | althoguh compiling a kernel is not a bad thing |
| 13:09.54 | HansZ | tra1a1a: lol, then everyone is offtopic |
| 13:10.00 | tra1a1a | !lol |
| 13:10.00 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a honey badger. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 13:10.01 | yaccobb | !lol |
| 13:10.07 | directhex|work | yaccobb, i don't think he said that, and if he is, he's a moron |
| 13:10.07 | tra1a1a | yaccobb: gotcha |
| 13:10.12 | jethro | !qotd51 |
| 13:10.12 | dpkg | <Caelum> arguing is pointless, stupid people will remain stupid |
| 13:10.21 | zignig | paulswm: hahaha, yep. epileptic drummer;guitarist with no fingers and a wounded polar bear as lead singer. |
| 13:10.22 | paulswm | !win jethro |
| 13:10.22 | dpkg | Congratulations, jethro! You have won a one way ticket to Rio de Janeiro! |
| 13:10.29 | yaccobb | tra1a1a: next time I'll be the first... |
| 13:10.48 | jharrisonwk | hhhmm |
| 13:10.58 | jharrisonwk | I find that jesuslol.jpg offensive slightly |
| 13:11.11 | jharrisonwk | but hey its sort of funny at the same time |
| 13:11.11 | paulswm | yaccobb: you have to hit the keys harder so the packets will move faster :) |
| 13:11.17 | jharrisonwk | heh |
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| 13:11.26 | yaccobb | directhex|work: "<HansZ> yaccobb: problems installing binary fglrx, but i'm already compiling the source.. thanks anyway :)". he's moron than :-P |
| 13:11.40 | serkan_ | hi folks |
| 13:11.46 | serkan_ | i have an installation problem |
| 13:11.54 | directhex|work | yaccobb, hopefully, he's compiling fglrx.ko, not his kernel |
| 13:11.55 | yaccobb | paulswm: oh... thanks for advice :-p |
| 13:12.00 | tra1a1a | !d-i serkan_ |
| 13:12.01 | dpkg | serkan_, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 13:12.01 | jharrisonwk | enemy territory works nicely with my fglrx on 2.6 kernel |
| 13:12.01 | HansZ | serkan_: I'm warning you.. these ppl only make shit of you |
| 13:12.09 | boukensya | hey guys. I am looking for a download accelerator (downloads multiple parts of the file at the same time) like prozilla and aget that supports needed a username and password to authenticate |
| 13:12.19 | paulswm | jharrisonwk: There's far, far, worse, at least the intention is gentle humor :) |
| 13:12.28 | yaccobb | directhex|work: probalby... so the moron is again me... ouch. |
| 13:12.32 | jharrisonwk | paulswm: yes I know |
| 13:12.33 | serkan_ | is there anybody can help |
| 13:12.40 | tra1a1a | HansZ: no, only *you* have the power to make shit of yourself, we are just registering the fact that you do so |
| 13:12.48 | zignig | paulswm: but religion is so easy to bait..... |
| 13:12.53 | jharrisonwk | paulswm: ill just have to find some mohammed or budda ones |
| 13:13.14 | HansZ | tra1a1a: yay.. so it's me, k.. finding manual to wack myself |
| 13:13.19 | cahoot | jharrisonwk: I'd go easy on the latter |
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| 13:13.22 | jharrisonwk | paulswm: or norse gods ones |
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| 13:13.30 | zignig | !unixsmite HansZ |
| 13:13.36 | tra1a1a | !tell serkan_ about d-i |
| 13:13.36 | directhex|work | HansZ, if i start raping puppies, can i cry foul when people suggest it's wrong? how about when you act stupid and refuse to listen to advice, is that any different? |
| 13:13.44 | jharrisonwk | cahoot: why is that? |
| 13:14.04 | cahoot | jharrisonwk: err - meant the first one |
| 13:14.07 | HansZ | directhex|work: I'm listening to advices.. and don't rape those little cute doggys |
| 13:14.08 | paulswm | jharrisonwk: if it were a mohammed one, the web site owner has probably already had a visit from a nice young man with an RPG |
| 13:14.10 | Serbitar | hail all |
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| 13:14.30 | yaccobb | HansZ: mmm, are you sure you are on good chanel ? :-P |
| 13:14.31 | jharrisonwk | cahoot: again why is that? |
| 13:14.32 | Serbitar | how can i run X programs from su to a non-root user? |
| 13:14.33 | silverton | argh |
| 13:14.42 | jharrisonwk | cahoot: they going to come to my house and cut my head off? |
| 13:14.45 | HansZ | yaccobb: Do a whois, and find out |
| 13:14.47 | cahoot | jharrisonwk: what paulswm hinted at |
| 13:15.05 | zignig | jharrisonwk: only if you bomb the crap out ot _their_ homes. |
| 13:15.11 | serkan_ | oh ok |
| 13:15.16 | jharrisonwk | zignig: I dont do that |
| 13:15.22 | serkan_ | my problem is a little bit interesting |
| 13:15.24 | jharrisonwk | zignig: I just mind my business and my house |
| 13:15.28 | jharrisonwk | zignig: and my country |
| 13:15.30 | zignig | jharrisonwk: indeed. |
| 13:15.41 | serkan_ | i have debian cds and i can boot my laptop with the first cd |
| 13:15.43 | jharrisonwk | unfortunatelly there is some damn mosk here already |
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| 13:15.49 | jharrisonwk | or however you spell it |
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| 13:15.56 | serkan_ | but with my pc it does not boot |
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| 13:16.04 | directhex|work | mosque, though the spelling in english is largely irrelevant |
| 13:16.04 | serkan_ | i tried everything |
| 13:16.17 | directhex|work | serkan_, debian cds, which version? |
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| 13:16.22 | zignig | jharrisonwk: why damn ? |
| 13:16.24 | serkan_ | sarge |
| 13:16.41 | directhex|work | serkan_, old pc? |
| 13:16.54 | serkan_ | p2 |
| 13:17.15 | jharrisonwk | zignig: because they should stay over on their side of the world and only come to visit |
| 13:17.28 | serkan_ | it s not so old huh |
| 13:17.28 | serkan_ | but the problem is not with installer |
| 13:17.28 | serkan_ | booting from cd |
| 13:17.28 | serkan_ | the problem itself |
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| 13:17.38 | jharrisonwk | zignig: next thing you know they will be trying to cut off my head because im an infidel |
| 13:18.02 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, as opposed to usaland bombing them for the same thing? |
| 13:18.09 | jharrisonwk | dudes |
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| 13:18.17 | jharrisonwk | why do people keep talking about bombing |
| 13:18.20 | jharrisonwk | im not bombing anyone |
| 13:18.25 | juarod | alo |
| 13:18.27 | serkan_ | ooo so sensitive flood protection |
| 13:18.27 | jharrisonwk | my country is not bombing anyone |
| 13:18.28 | zignig | jharrisonwk: no but you gov is . |
| 13:18.36 | jharrisonwk | oh really |
| 13:18.39 | serkan_ | ok is there anybody who suggest something |
| 13:18.39 | jharrisonwk | zignig: prove it |
| 13:18.45 | jharrisonwk | zignig: did you assume I was american? |
| 13:18.47 | zignig | jharrisonwk: what country are you in? |
| 13:18.53 | jharrisonwk | bahamas |
| 13:19.02 | jharrisonwk | I assure you we are not bombing anyone |
| 13:19.04 | jethro | !tell serkan_ -about enter |
| 13:19.38 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: that's because you guys don't have an army :) |
| 13:19.39 | serkan_ | sorry_ |
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| 13:19.44 | abrotman | or navy .. or air force |
| 13:19.45 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: :-P |
| 13:19.51 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: we do have a navy |
| 13:19.58 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: two dingies don't count |
| 13:19.58 | Serbitar | serkan_: try getting a floppy disk image and booting that |
| 13:20.08 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: we have more then 2 dingies |
| 13:20.10 | Serbitar | serkan_: iirc you can still use the data on the CD to install |
| 13:20.15 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: we have like 10 of them |
| 13:20.19 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: oh .. upgraded to three eh ? :) |
| 13:20.26 | zignig | jharrisonwk: hehe. |
| 13:20.43 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: how do you think we keep the hatians and cubans from getting to miami' |
| 13:20.43 | zignig | jharrisonwk: and a squadren of attack squirrels ? |
| 13:20.51 | jharrisonwk | we dont have squirrels here |
| 13:20.53 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: free pot ? |
| 13:20.59 | mysurfguide | Hey guys I got a question.... Im running debian sarge, (testing) and I got two hard drives, HDA and HDB.. and I got a CDROM, which leaves one IDE slot left, secondary master, and I also have another hard drive laying here which I want to put in this box. But I dont want to have to redo everything. Is it possible for me to plug it in and mount it as is? |
| 13:21.00 | tra1a1a | jharrisonwk: we got you, man - you have a navy and you don't bomb anyone. Clam down now. |
| 13:21.01 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: speaking of free pot |
| 13:21.05 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: give me a few weeks |
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| 13:21.17 | serkan_ | oops i dont have disk right now |
| 13:21.28 | jethro | mysurfguide: you mean hotplug? |
| 13:21.32 | jm_ | mysurfguide: why wouldn't it be? |
| 13:21.34 | serkan_ | but i dont understand what can cause this |
| 13:21.35 | mysurfguide | its a standard IDE |
| 13:21.49 | mysurfguide | I simply mount the new Hard drive in fstab? |
| 13:21.49 | jethro | mysurfguide: or stop the computer, plug the disk in the spare IDE slot and boot ? |
| 13:21.56 | Serbitar | serkan_: have you booted your pc from cd in the past? |
| 13:22.00 | mysurfguide | yes jethro |
| 13:22.03 | mysurfguide | the latest one |
| 13:22.09 | mysurfguide | plug it in spare IDE slot |
| 13:22.23 | mysurfguide | would dmesg find it properly? |
| 13:22.29 | mysurfguide | probing that is |
| 13:22.41 | tra1a1a | dmesg doesn't probe anything |
| 13:22.46 | serkan_ | yeah Serbitar |
| 13:22.54 | jethro | mysurfguide: then just stop the computer, plug the drive, boot, fstab -l the appropriate device (should be /dev/hdc as per what you said) and add entries in fstab |
| 13:22.56 | mysurfguide | no tra1, but at bootup |
| 13:22.56 | abrotman | mysurfguide: why do you think the drive wouldn't work correctly |
| 13:22.57 | abrotman | ? |
| 13:22.57 | tra1a1a | and I'm having a hard time to see why are you asking this in #debian |
| 13:22.59 | serkan_ | even though right now with slack and knoppix |
| 13:22.59 | Serbitar | mysurfguide: yes. (but dmesg is not actually probing, dmesg is reporting what the kernel is doing) |
| 13:23.09 | mysurfguide | that is what I meant serbitar |
| 13:23.09 | serkan_ | they works just fine |
| 13:23.09 | jethro | mysurfguide: yes it would |
| 13:23.20 | mysurfguide | thank you jethro, I will try that |
| 13:23.22 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: you going to come down and get it? |
| 13:23.23 | serkan_ | every cd works just fine except debian first cd |
| 13:23.26 | Serbitar | serkan_: hmm. did you check out the ISO md5sum? |
| 13:23.29 | yaccobb | tra1a1a: why are you always on this chanel ? Is anyone forcing you to help people ? No offence, I am just curious about your reason for loosing hours with morons like me. |
| 13:23.30 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: the navy ? |
| 13:23.30 | serkan_ | i copied the cd to another one |
| 13:23.38 | serkan_ | and the result is the same |
| 13:23.41 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: yeah .. i think i could take 'em :)( |
| 13:23.42 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: no the pots |
| 13:23.51 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: i quit years ago |
| 13:23.54 | serkan_ | Serbitar, i installed debian to my laptop |
| 13:23.56 | serkan_ | cds are fine |
| 13:24.00 | serkan_ | i know that |
| 13:24.06 | tra1a1a | yaccobb: why would you care? |
| 13:24.08 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: thats too bad |
| 13:24.10 | serkan_ | the same cd boots with my laptop |
| 13:24.16 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: I quit years ago also |
| 13:24.17 | jharrisonwk | :-P |
| 13:24.22 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: heh |
| 13:24.24 | Serbitar | serkan_: gah! strange! |
| 13:24.34 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: thats ok I know some rastas that can use it |
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| 13:24.51 | jethro | jharrisonwk: ship it |
| 13:24.53 | jethro | Ill take it |
| 13:24.57 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: there is a some growing near my house no one knows about |
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| 13:25.03 | serkan_ | isnt it interesting |
| 13:25.05 | yaccobb | tra1a1a: Is it so heavy to understand some people care about others ? You so hate curiosity ? |
| 13:25.05 | serkan_ | damn i dont have diskettes and my bios does not boot from usb |
| 13:25.07 | paulswm | Hey, I want a toke |
| 13:25.11 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: I figure when it blooms and you can smell it someone will find it |
| 13:25.11 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: they will soon |
| 13:25.14 | serkan_ | i got crazy |
| 13:25.16 | abrotman | paulswm: jharrisonwk is near you :) |
| 13:25.24 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: sure it stinks when it blooms |
| 13:25.27 | paulswm | Not that near |
| 13:25.29 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: you can smell it all around |
| 13:25.32 | jharrisonwk | mmmmmmmmm |
| 13:25.35 | abrotman | paulswm: far closer than i am to you |
| 13:25.39 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: i know |
| 13:25.44 | jharrisonwk | this is a nice strong one too |
| 13:26.01 | paulswm | My son used to set fire to it for a living. I told him, hey, give it to me, I'll burn it |
| 13:26.10 | jharrisonwk | paulswm: sure you will |
| 13:26.14 | jharrisonwk | :) |
| 13:26.19 | paulswm | Just a bit slower, is all |
| 13:26.21 | jharrisonwk | only here its bun it |
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| 13:26.26 | tra1a1a | yaccobb: that's *not* a generic chat channel. It's about technical discussion. If I wanted to share my feelings or seek understanding I would have joined #sex or whatever. |
| 13:26.34 | serkan_ | thax Serbitar |
| 13:26.43 | serkan_ | but i need to find a solution |
| 13:26.53 | serkan_ | i want my debian back :) |
| 13:27.01 | jm_ | serkan_: well one option might be SBM |
| 13:27.16 | yaccobb | tra1a1a: I agree, but question I ask can't be answered o #sex channel. |
| 13:27.36 | snail | yaccobb: i think you'd be surprised... |
| 13:27.44 | tra1a1a | haha :) |
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| 13:28.41 | gandy909 | is there a 'standard' gid number to give wheel? |
| 13:28.58 | jethro | gandy909: there is no standard afaict |
| 13:29.04 | jetscreamer | there is a wheel group, or i've seen one at least |
| 13:29.11 | jethro | jetscreamer: not by default |
| 13:29.14 | jm_ | there isn't one by default |
| 13:29.14 | ejd | if i believe that I have found a bug in a package (mozilla-firefox) which is reproducible (for me at least) how should I go about reporting it? any easy to follow bug submitting guides? |
| 13:29.16 | paulswm | There is sex in this channel sometimes...: |
| 13:29.17 | serkan_ | jm_, SBM? |
| 13:29.18 | paulswm | qotd9 |
| 13:29.22 | jm_ | serkan_: apt-cache show sbm |
| 13:29.23 | paulswm | !qotd9 |
| 13:29.23 | dpkg | <caphuso> linagee: so, now would be a good time to start reading the fucking manual before i start fucking you |
| 13:29.37 | jm_ | ejd: apt-cache show reportbug |
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| 13:29.51 | serkan_ | i dont have debian installed jm_ |
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| 13:29.52 | yaccobb | snail: You think someone on #sex chanel would tell me why is tra1a1a helping others here whole days ? Well... |
| 13:30.08 | jm_ | serkan_: then go to its home page and read |
| 13:30.15 | tra1a1a | yaccobb: just to make you feel good - I'm here for the reason a lot of others are - to learn. However there are much, much more others that are here to have someone fix their problem for free. I don't appreciate such people and many others do not as well. |
| 13:30.17 | zignig | bleh! |
| 13:30.22 | jetscreamer | somebody is giving tra1a1a sex for support? |
| 13:30.27 | jetscreamer | kinky |
| 13:30.32 | serkan_ | huh tell a little bit and i know if it can work or not |
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| 13:30.40 | zignig | jetscreamer: fair trade really. |
| 13:30.43 | jethro | heh jetscreamer |
| 13:30.59 | tra1a1a | jetscreamer: uh, huh? |
| 13:31.07 | paulswm | Depends on who's giving |
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| 13:31.28 | jetscreamer | tra1a1a: only...(yeah paul) is what 'type' of sex... |
| 13:31.31 | jethro | reminds me on the giver and the taker |
| 13:31.46 | jetscreamer | s/only/only question/ |
| 13:31.52 | directhex|work | jethro, people discuss sex, and you think of captain gaping anus? |
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| 13:32.11 | paulswm | aarrrgh not that visula again |
| 13:32.15 | paulswm | visual |
| 13:32.23 | jethro | directhex|work: the guys on goatsex |
| 13:32.32 | yaccobb | tra1a1a: Thanks, felling goos as possible from raw text. You think it's better to study manual whole days instead of asking someone who did and thus save much time ? |
| 13:32.32 | jetscreamer | directhex|work: where i come from (no, no pun) real men don't talk about sex (unless they don't have sex, then they talk a lot) |
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| 13:32.57 | serkan_ | jm_, i told that i dont have floppy |
| 13:33.04 | jethro | directhex|work: actually, paulswm's "depends on who's giving" remind me on that |
| 13:33.11 | jm_ | serkan_: you can install it on a hard disk |
| 13:33.24 | yaccobb | jetscreamer: that's true. And only stupid men talk about sex on #debian channel. |
| 13:33.27 | tra1a1a | yaccobb: you obviously think that there is someone out there who *owes* you help for free. Don't be surprised by the attitude you get. |
| 13:33.37 | jetscreamer | hey so how about those seti work units... hey howabout everybody in the channel installing seti and using ctll@netscape.net as the email address |
| 13:33.39 | s3ri4l | hello, i need install driver - ISA NE2000, in sarge... can help me? |
| 13:33.59 | abrotman | !isapnp |
| 13:33.59 | dpkg | i heard isapnp is a nifty utility that lets you configure your ISA PnP cards (which themselves are evil) in linux, or apt-get install isapnptools then pnpdump |
| 13:34.10 | jethro | !irritate s3ri4l |
| 13:34.12 | dpkg | s3ri4l: wenas who uses dvd plz msg me, mathieu |
| 13:34.22 | jetscreamer | s3ri4l: i can. do ytou have the dos setup disk? do you have pnp disabled in the bios? did you pass io= and irq= to the module when you loaded it? |
| 13:34.24 | serkan_ | did you read my problem jm_ |
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| 13:34.54 | jm_ | serkan_: yes, you can't boot from a CD ... |
| 13:35.32 | s3ri4l | jetscreamer instalation dos no... in bios i dont see, and, how i see the io e irq? |
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| 13:35.44 | abrocadabro | serkan_: have you got any other machines to test the cd with? |
| 13:35.50 | yaccobb | tra1a1a: I don't think anyone owe me help, but I AM glad if I can use my knowledge and help someone else(yes, even that happens) saving his time. So I don't undersatand that behavior. |
| 13:35.58 | abrocadabro | serkan_: apart from your laptop |
| 13:36.32 | jetscreamer | s3ri4l: when i set up my isa ne2000, i had to disable plug&play in the bios, boot a dos floppy and set the irq and io values, then pass those values to the module when i loaded it with modconf in linux |
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| 13:37.05 | sec_dude | i am new to snort can some one pls tell me how do i check packets /all running packets is there any tools for that |
| 13:37.17 | tra1a1a | !qotd51 |
| 13:37.17 | dpkg | <Caelum> arguing is pointless, stupid people will remain stupid |
| 13:37.23 | s3ri4l | jetscreamer in order i execute this cat /proc/ioports but i dont see the io in file.., and i see the options in bios... tkz |
| 13:37.23 | jethro | sec_dude: read snort documentation |
| 13:37.28 | jethro | sec_dude: or /j #snort |
| 13:37.39 | yaccobb | tra1a1a: but you always help if you can(at least it seems so) so and the one isn't moron... hehe !qotd51, i note that |
| 13:37.51 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 13:38.10 | jetscreamer | hey you n00bs quit fighting |
| 13:38.10 | jetscreamer | it's sunday |
| 13:38.21 | yaccobb | !noob |
| 13:38.21 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 13:38.22 | tra1a1a | !friday |
| 13:38.23 | dpkg | from memory, friday is Tardsday Eve Eve |
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| 13:38.33 | jethro | yaccobb: tra1a1a can't you guys just ignore each other or stop it? |
| 13:38.41 | jm_ | s3r;you won't see the io in there until the driver is loaded |
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| 13:38.46 | jm_ | gah |
| 13:38.56 | jetscreamer | yes, yaccobb, we can tell... |
| 13:38.59 | jim | n00bfight!! n00bfight!! |
| 13:39.00 | kneet | paulswm, you have more than one head? |
| 13:39.11 | jetscreamer | yeah he didn't wait around eh jm_ |
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| 13:39.16 | jharrisonwk | b00b fight? |
| 13:39.18 | paulswm | !prise kneet |
| 13:39.23 | paulswm | :D |
| 13:39.24 | yaccobb | jethro: i like him, his style is great. ok I shut up. |
| 13:39.27 | jharrisonwk | ohh n00b fight |
| 13:39.33 | jharrisonwk | nevermind then |
| 13:39.37 | jethro | yaccobb: thanks |
| 13:39.56 | paulswm | kneet: Just call me "Zaphod" :) |
| 13:40.15 | kneet | Heh - they're re-running the TV series here at the moment :) |
| 13:40.37 | jethro | laters #debian |
| 13:40.47 | paulswm | later jethro mon ami |
| 13:41.00 | tra1a1a | !irritate jethro for goodbye |
| 13:41.01 | dpkg | jethro for goodbye: HELP ME!!! how can I make my knoppix werkz ????? |
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| 13:41.24 | jethro | I so like irritate |
| 13:41.32 | paulswm | It is great |
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| 13:41.50 | s-toned | tra1a1a: Mother put her little daughter 15 minutes under water. Not to take her into troubles, just to see the funny bubbles. Happy Mother's Day. |
| 13:42.14 | tra1a1a | nasty |
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| 13:42.34 | s-toned | yes |
| 13:42.37 | jharrisonwk | s-toned: bastard |
| 13:44.24 | paulswm | HAH |
| 13:44.33 | paulswm | !qotd27 |
| 13:44.33 | dpkg | <yevgeniy2> !sest <yevgeniy2> !test <yevgeniy2> !test <yevgeniy2> !test -!- yevgeniy2 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood] <dpkg> No, yevgeniy2, you're not online any more. |
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| 13:45.07 | PeTeRB | ROFL |
| 13:45.40 | tra1a1a | paulswm: still browsing the qotd database? |
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| 13:46.21 | Gud | communists |
| 13:46.24 | paulswm | tra1a1a: I don't have much to do, so yes. I'm putting off extarcting it and making it a fortune cookie file |
| 13:47.03 | paulswm | The thing is, that many of them remain hilarious even after many re-reads |
| 13:47.15 | xerophyte | is there different reading book online and paper back :) just wondering ? |
| 13:47.21 | toonX | why /bin/ls doesn't show me no colors when listing executable files? uhm? |
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| 13:47.35 | directhex|work | xerophyte, reading long texts from a monitor is tiring. a book is much more pleasant to read |
| 13:47.37 | kneet | paulswm, you going to make that cookie file available? |
| 13:47.43 | jm_ | toonX: because you haven't told it to do so? |
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| 13:47.55 | toonX | jm_ uhm , how so |
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| 13:48.00 | jm_ | toonX: try alias ls |
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| 13:48.04 | tra1a1a | paulswm: mmm, you should make this fortune file available once it's finished :) |
| 13:48.07 | lestest | ls |
| 13:48.09 | gandy909 | doing a post install (stable) run-thru of the securing debian manual. Tells me to create a /etc/pam.d/other file and put a bunch of lines in it. This file already exists with several different lines. Q: should I add to, or replace? |
| 13:48.10 | lestest | ops |
| 13:48.12 | xerophyte | directhex|work, hmmm |
| 13:48.28 | paulswm | kneet: Yes. I have unused domains, so I will actually fire one up and post it :) |
| 13:48.37 | lestest | anybody can tell me which run levels can be customized? |
| 13:48.37 | toonX | jm alias ls not found |
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| 13:48.48 | kneet | Hope I'm on channel when you let us know :) |
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| 13:48.51 | jm_ | toonX: look in your ~/.bashrc |
| 13:48.51 | asg | paulswm: you want my daily update script for generating that? |
| 13:49.00 | toonX | jm_ k |
| 13:49.18 | paulswm | asg: You are very kind, would be appreciated :) |
| 13:49.23 | tra1a1a | lestest: all of them |
| 13:50.05 | lestest | also 6? |
| 13:50.27 | toonX | jm , got it "You may uncomment the following lines if you want `ls' to be colorized:" |
| 13:50.27 | tra1a1a | all = all (including 6) |
| 13:50.32 | jm_ | toonX: right |
| 13:50.40 | tra1a1a | if you really want to do so is another question though |
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| 13:51.28 | gandy909 | I'm wondering if this securing debian manual is something anyone even looks at? |
| 13:51.30 | asg | paulswm: http://gimp.shacknet.nu/code/debian/ |
| 13:51.51 | asg | paulswm: that's the databse to fortune script and the latest file. |
| 13:52.09 | asg | paulswm: wget -q http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/apt_dump.gz --output-document=- | gunzip | perl /var/www/code/debian/qotd2for >/var/www/code/debian/debian-irc.fortune |
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| 13:52.21 | asg | paulswm: that will generate the file from the online database. |
| 13:52.26 | paulswm | asg: thanks a lot |
| 13:52.30 | toonX | jm_ works , thanks |
| 13:52.34 | jm_ | toonX: enjoy |
| 13:53.05 | lestest | tra1a1a: then which are the default run levels? |
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| 13:53.20 | tra1a1a | lestest: man inittab |
| 13:53.37 | asg | gandy909: yes, it has some good information in it |
| 13:53.41 | tra1a1a | man init to get a better idea of the init process |
| 13:53.44 | silverton | !y |
| 13:53.45 | dpkg | y is, like, http://www.y-windows.org/, or it's "why", not y. w h y. see u, any1. NOT a substitute for I. If you mean yourself in the first person use 'I' and not 'y'. |
| 13:54.14 | silverton | !u |
| 13:54.14 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 13:54.28 | silverton | !ne1 |
| 13:54.28 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 13:54.31 | silverton | I love these... |
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| 13:54.36 | asg | silverton: the /msg the bot |
| 13:54.46 | asg | silverton: or /j #debian-bots |
| 13:54.51 | tactless | I'm having a bit of a problem with bootsplash - it only works on shutdown. |
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| 13:54.57 | paulswm | asg: I must have been looking in the wrong place, as I thought that the fortune page was down, not a lot of point in me doing it as you have it up :) btw, I added qotd120 today, you might enjoy :) |
| 13:54.57 | asg | tactless: /msg dpkg bootsplash |
| 13:55.05 | tactless | asg: 10x |
| 13:55.09 | gandy909 | asg, I'm doing a post install (stable) run-thru of the securing debian manual. Tells me to create a /etc/pam.d/other file and put a bunch of lines in it. This file already exists with several different lines. Q: should I add to, or replace? |
| 13:55.26 | AldarHawk | Why is Sarge being so difficult to me? |
| 13:55.35 | abrotman | that's descriptive |
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| 13:55.35 | GregM | bugger did a dist-upgrade from woody to sarge all seemed ok but now fails on lilo . can somone point me to a recovery proceedure? |
| 13:55.37 | tactless | Oh, OK, I've read those, yes |
| 13:55.38 | asg | paulswm: ah, cool. It was down for a while for various reasons. The fortune bit will stay up. |
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| 13:55.50 | asg | gandy909: are you reading the woody version or the updated one for sarge? |
| 13:55.52 | AldarHawk | I am installing using linux26 and I have used 2 different copies of the Disc1 ISO |
| 13:56.05 | directhex|work | AldarHawk, what's the target hardware? |
| 13:56.07 | tactless | Bootsplash only shows up on shutdown - upon booting or just switching to text console, I get plain old framebuffer. |
| 13:56.08 | AldarHawk | each one is crapping out on me |
| 13:56.14 | tactless | I'm pretty sure I followed the guide to the letter. |
| 13:56.17 | AldarHawk | 200GB Seagate S-ATA Hard Drive |
| 13:56.27 | paulswm | asg: I have 4 days with nothing to do so I may mess with it anyway, thanks very much for your help. |
| 13:56.37 | directhex|work | tactless, did you add "splash=silent" or similar to your kernel options? |
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| 13:56.46 | tactless | directhex|work: Yes |
| 13:56.52 | asg | paulswm: no problem, if you want to fix it so that the qotds show up in order, send me a patch. I've been meaning to do it but have been too busy lately. |
| 13:56.58 | directhex|work | AldarHawk, u more meant your motherboard, the disk manufacturer is exactly the least useful info i could have |
| 13:57.02 | directhex|work | except maybe the color of mouse |
| 13:57.06 | paulswm | asg: k |
| 13:57.08 | abrotman | directhex|work: u? |
| 13:57.14 | AldarHawk | Asus P5GD1 Intel 915 |
| 13:57.18 | directhex|work | i. |
| 13:57.25 | directhex|work | debian doesn't work on i915. |
| 13:57.30 | directhex|work | blame the 2.6.8 kernel. |
| 13:57.37 | AldarHawk | Running a P4 3.0 HT Processot |
| 13:57.39 | gandy909 | asg, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch4.en.html |
| 13:58.00 | Guerin | AldarHawk: are there any badges on the case? |
| 13:58.03 | directhex|work | www.ubuntulinux.org, or www.suse.com. i know for a fact both those work fine with i915 |
| 13:58.07 | Sji | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.12 | directhex|work | i also know FC3 and debian don't |
| 13:58.12 | AldarHawk | I built the machine myself |
| 13:58.17 | Guerin | AldarHawk: are there any badges on the case? |
| 13:58.17 | gandy909 | asg, I don't see that is specifies |
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| 13:58.46 | tactless | Oh, wait, got it. Nevermind. |
| 13:58.48 | tactless | 10x |
| 13:58.48 | AldarHawk | there is nothing on the case other than the black coat on it |
| 13:59.08 | Guerin | AldarHawk: oooh, so you painted it black? |
| 13:59.17 | AldarHawk | no I bought a black case |
| 13:59.29 | Guerin | that makes a big difference when it comes to thermodynamics, anyway |
| 14:00.03 | Guerin | you know how black absorbs heat, whereas light colours reflect it? |
| 14:00.06 | thingfish | directhex|work: you tried. |
| 14:00.16 | AldarHawk | directhex|work the motherboard is an ASUS P5GD1 |
| 14:00.49 | directhex|work | sigh. i915 does NOT work with 2.6.8 |
| 14:01.09 | AldarHawk | what!? |
| 14:01.16 | jim | so thoes that are working use what, an earlier kernel? |
| 14:01.19 | directhex|work | you need a different linux distribution with a more recent kernel, or to create a custom debian install cd with a more recent kernel |
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| 14:01.49 | AldarHawk | the Debian Sarge ISO is not the most recent Kernel? |
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| 14:02.09 | AldarHawk | I just downloaded it yesterday |
| 14:02.18 | directhex|work | AldarHawk, debian sarge uses 2.6.8 or 2.4.27. this is set in stone. |
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| 14:02.55 | AldarHawk | anyone have a Sarge ISO with a more up to date Kernel? |
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| 14:03.01 | jharrisonwk | what stone? |
| 14:03.10 | directhex|work | AldarHawk, no such thing. sarge does not have more recent kernels. |
| 14:03.12 | Guerin | no such thing, unfortunately |
| 14:03.18 | jharrisonwk | AldarHawk: why not just install sarge then upgrade kernel with kpkg |
| 14:03.30 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, because it's the disk controller that doesn't work |
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| 14:03.41 | jharrisonwk | well that sucks |
| 14:03.47 | jim | would the 2.4 kernel work? |
| 14:03.57 | AldarHawk | when I need a special NIC driver I cannot get stuff from the net and my Motherboard is not liking Sarge |
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| 14:04.09 | AldarHawk | no 2.4 does not pick up my S-ATA Drive |
| 14:04.16 | directhex|work | 2.4 has even less sata support |
| 14:04.17 | jharrisonwk | maybe he can create a boot disk with newer kernel and then install sarge on that? |
| 14:04.18 | Guerin | solution: get a real NIC |
| 14:04.22 | directhex|work | AldarHawk, www.ubuntulinux.org |
| 14:05.01 | AldarHawk | no floppy in my new computer. |
| 14:05.07 | scarynetworkguy | AldarHawk: Have you tried with the 2.6 kernel? |
| 14:05.18 | AldarHawk | YES! |
| 14:05.19 | scarynetworkguy | I mean it *is* just a install kernel. |
| 14:05.22 | jharrisonwk | to be honest if I had a system that could not install debian I would be upset |
| 14:05.24 | AldarHawk | that is what we are talking about |
| 14:05.34 | AldarHawk | I am VERY Upset |
| 14:05.37 | jharrisonwk | I dont want no ubuntu or anything else but debian |
| 14:05.47 | abrotman | can't he install sid directly ? |
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| 14:05.54 | thingfish | hehe |
| 14:05.55 | abrotman | or make a custom d-i with a 2.6.11 ? |
| 14:05.56 | Guerin | no |
| 14:06.01 | directhex|work | sid install discs use sarge kernels iirc |
| 14:06.04 | Guerin | anyone can make a custom |
| 14:06.05 | IDC | i missed you guys very much :) |
| 14:06.13 | IDC | howdy debianers :D |
| 14:06.13 | Guerin | but it's still a pain in the arse |
| 14:06.19 | justin | !tell AldarHawk about doesn't work |
| 14:06.21 | IDC | hi Guerin |
| 14:06.23 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: yeah make custom |
| 14:06.36 | kneet | paulswm, can I msg you a sec? |
| 14:06.49 | jim | justin: but the problem is known |
| 14:06.49 | directhex|work | !sarge hardware support |
| 14:06.49 | dpkg | sarge hardware support is probably reasonable, but not cutting edge. XFree86 does not support nVidia 6-series graphics cards or ATI X-series cards, without binary drivers or VESA. There is also little to no support for sound or graphics on modern Intel i9x5-ICH6 boards, nor CPU Frequency scaling on Dothan core Pentium-M laptops. |
| 14:07.09 | AldarHawk | justin I have spoke about 'it' already |
| 14:07.17 | directhex|work | dpkg, sarge hardware support =~ s/sound or graphics on // |
| 14:07.17 | dpkg | directhex|work: OK |
| 14:07.23 | AldarHawk | read higher and you will see what I am talking about |
| 14:07.37 | justin | 09:56 < AldarHawk> each one is crapping out on me |
| 14:07.46 | justin | yeah, great explanation of the problem |
| 14:08.00 | AldarHawk | My motherboard is an i915 and Kernel 2.6.8 does not work to pick up that board properly |
| 14:08.01 | jharrisonwk | IDC: howdy |
| 14:08.16 | IDC | jharrisonwk, hey :) |
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| 14:08.51 | eps | mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9660' <-- what did I break :| |
| 14:08.53 | AldarHawk | the installation keeps kicking out with errors, this is my home Computer I am talking about. I am not in front of it or the errors ATM |
| 14:09.03 | jim | so doesn't the question become how can he create a custom d-i with the latest sid kernel? |
| 14:09.19 | directhex|work | it's that or a different distro |
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| 14:09.46 | AldarHawk | I do not really want a different distro. But I will if it comes to that |
| 14:09.46 | jim | what if he installs ubuntu then upgrades to sarge? |
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| 14:09.49 | resiak | eps: You didn't build iso9660 support in? You don't have that module loaded? |
| 14:09.53 | resiak | jim: That doesn't happen. |
| 14:10.10 | jim | howcome? |
| 14:10.16 | directhex|work | jim, mixing ubuntu and debian doesn't work well. but ubuntu WOULD just work with the hardware. |
| 14:10.33 | jharrisonwk | IDC: how is the weather over there? |
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| 14:10.52 | peke | ola |
| 14:10.54 | eps | resiak I've been playing with adding reiser4 support, only commands I've done that have anything to do with it is apt-get install kernel-patch-2.6-reiser4 which I haven't applied and depmod reiserfs |
| 14:10.58 | jim | ok, so if he definitely wants debian, it's down to custom installer. |
| 14:11.04 | eps | resiak other than that it should be there |
| 14:11.12 | jim | what is the process? |
| 14:11.20 | directhex|work | AldarHawk, you need to hack together your own debian installer with a custom kernel, or go with a different distro. those are your choices. |
| 14:11.33 | resiak | eps: lsmod | grep isofs ? |
| 14:11.44 | eps | resiak no reply |
| 14:11.48 | IDC | jharrisonwk, clowdy:) 28 c degrees or so |
| 14:11.55 | resiak | eps: So that module isn't loaded. modprobe isofs ? |
| 14:12.03 | IDC | cloudy* |
| 14:12.06 | eps | FATAL: Module isofs not found. |
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| 14:12.18 | jim | eps: did you build that kernel? |
| 14:12.19 | jharrisonwk | IDC: its sunny here |
| 14:12.36 | AldarHawk | yeah Now I know this. |
| 14:12.42 | IDC | jharrisonwk, cool,by the way,there is 'here' your side ? |
| 14:12.54 | jharrisonwk | IDC: bahamas |
| 14:12.54 | resiak | eps: grep ISO9660 /boot/config-$(uname -r)# |
| 14:12.56 | eps | jim no, because I backed out of wanting reiser4 support (didn't apply the patch further than the apt-get statement to install it) |
| 14:12.56 | AldarHawk | I just do not have time to hack together a different d-i |
| 14:13.02 | resiak | eps: grep ISO9660 /boot/config-$(uname -r) (without the #) |
| 14:13.06 | AldarHawk | so I guess I gotta get a different Distro |
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| 14:13.14 | eps | CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=m |
| 14:13.18 | jharrisonwk | AldarHawk: ubuntu does look nice |
| 14:13.23 | IDC | jharrisonwk, nice |
| 14:13.28 | jharrisonwk | AldarHawk: im going to see the livecd in a minute |
| 14:13.36 | eps | I don't have a clue about patching the kernel in debian, so I decided not to and went with ext3. |
| 14:13.40 | directhex|work | AldarHawk, i'd suggest something with a minimum of a 2.6.10 kernel. i can guarantee ubuntu 5.04 and suse 9.3 support the i915. |
| 14:13.42 | jharrisonwk | AldarHawk: but debian or nothing is still my view |
| 14:13.46 | resiak | eps: `uname -r` ? |
| 14:13.50 | jim | eps: looky that... your config file shows it was built as a module... |
| 14:13.58 | eps | 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 14:14.01 | jharrisonwk | IDC: where are you exactly? |
| 14:14.02 | jim | or will be built? |
| 14:14.06 | resiak | eps: Have you been messing around with /lib/modules/ ? |
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| 14:14.11 | directhex|work | AldarHawk, try distrowatch.com to see package versions on distros |
| 14:14.12 | IDC | jharrisonwk, china |
| 14:14.14 | jim | that's the config file in /boot? |
| 14:14.18 | resiak | jim: Well noticed. |
| 14:14.23 | eightchar | Trying to compile new kernel, package, then install package |
| 14:14.26 | jharrisonwk | IDC: thats what I thought |
| 14:14.30 | eps | resiak no, though I believe (a friend says) that reiser4 kernel patch would have effected it |
| 14:14.31 | eightchar | says I need to add image=/vmlinuz |
| 14:14.31 | eightchar | label=Linux |
| 14:14.31 | eightchar | initrd=/initrd.img |
| 14:14.31 | eightchar | read-only |
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| 14:14.38 | eightchar | shit, sry. |
| 14:14.40 | jharrisonwk | IDC: are you native or just visiting? |
| 14:14.41 | AldarHawk | thank you directhex|work |
| 14:14.43 | resiak | eps: What did you do with that patch? |
| 14:14.47 | IDC | jharrisonwk, native |
| 14:15.07 | eps | apt-get install then nothing (as I didn't know what to do) then apt-get remove |
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| 14:15.24 | jharrisonwk | IDC: you speak very good english |
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| 14:15.41 | IDC | jharrisonwk, thanks,i try |
| 14:16.38 | eps | any ideas :| |
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| 14:17.00 | IronRoses | hello |
| 14:17.12 | eps | I have a 2.6.8-2 and a 2.6.8-2-386 folder in /usr/src ... is that ment to be like that |
| 14:17.16 | IronRoses | just installed debian and deleted over 600MB of apps and crap, and have icewm |
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| 14:17.31 | IronRoses | um, I want to know hopw i change the keymap and graphics resolution |
| 14:17.34 | IronRoses | how do i do that? |
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| 14:17.46 | jim | eightchar: you can do that, or you can add specific image=/boot/vmlinux-<version> and initrd=/boot/initrd.img-<version> |
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| 14:17.58 | directhex|work | !drxx IronRoses |
| 14:17.59 | dpkg | IronRoses: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 14:18.00 | amorphix | I'm still not able to get my wacom driver to compile, says i dont have a XF86 build enviroment.. I've already installed xlibs-dev and x-window-system-dev, what else is there?! |
| 14:18.01 | tntlink | hi all :) |
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| 14:18.04 | eps | change the resolution in /etc/X11/XFree86~4 and keymap I use sven for |
| 14:18.07 | IronRoses | thanks matey |
| 14:18.13 | eps | or what directhex|work says :) |
| 14:18.14 | PeTeRB | eps: What does 'modprobe -l | grep isofs' say? |
| 14:18.27 | eps | nothing returned |
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| 14:18.43 | eps | zoidberg:/usr/src# modprobe isofs |
| 14:18.43 | eps | FATAL: Module isofs not found. |
| 14:18.48 | paulswm | kneet: sorry, was afk, yes you may msg me |
| 14:18.49 | directhex|work | amorphix, "apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i wacom" |
| 14:19.01 | amorphix | directhex|work thanks |
| 14:19.03 | eightchar | jim: ty, rebooting now |
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| 14:19.21 | nunez | I try to mount /media/music, yet it says its already mounted or busy, which neither is true |
| 14:19.28 | jim | eightchar: |
| 14:19.29 | resiak | eps: Don't tell people to manually edit their X config. |
| 14:19.51 | jim | make sure you look in /boot and get the filenames right, if you're going to do it that way |
| 14:19.55 | jim | also |
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| 14:20.04 | jim | make srue you run lilo after you make the change |
| 14:20.07 | eps | resiak eh? sorry :| I'm not used to how things are done in debian |
| 14:20.11 | tntlink | who speak italian? |
| 14:20.16 | jim | you? |
| 14:20.20 | resiak | !tell eps -about xmd5 |
| 14:20.22 | directhex|work | !it |
| 14:20.23 | dpkg | i heard italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it, (anche /j #linux-it). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 14:20.25 | PeTeRB | tntlink: Italians |
| 14:20.44 | tntlink | tnx :D |
| 14:20.48 | jim | Robert Blake |
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| 14:22.12 | eightchar | jim: run lilo? |
| 14:22.18 | jim | yes |
| 14:22.22 | eps | okay, so what can I do to fix this situation, will a reboot help? |
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| 14:22.38 | jim | you finished making the changes? then run: /sbin/lilo |
| 14:22.47 | amorphix | damn this sux |
| 14:22.58 | amorphix | cant even compile a driver |
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| 14:23.13 | eightchar | I made the changes before the dpkg -i kernel-image*.deb was run |
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| 14:23.38 | eightchar | dOH! |
| 14:23.59 | jim | ok, the package install should have run /sbin/lilo for you maybe |
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| 14:24.18 | jim | did it ask you whether you wanted it to? and did you say yes? |
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| 14:25.32 | LabThug | is it correct to assume that because sarge still has 50 bugs listed, it's not going to be released on the 30th? |
| 14:25.51 | justin | LabThug: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?ignore=sid&ignhinted=on&ignmerged=on&ignoksarge=on&fullcomment=on&new=5 |
| 14:26.21 | eightchar | jim: it did ask me, and it said everything was o.k. |
| 14:26.28 | eightchar | jim: right near the end of the package install |
| 14:26.45 | amorphix | this is just worse than having teeth pulled, fink i will have to go back to Windows for desktop OS |
| 14:26.47 | amorphix | :-/ |
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| 14:27.33 | eightchar | jim: machine is remote dedicated, not rebooting, what do you suggest I tell techs so they can get it booted up and back online? |
| 14:27.39 | eightchar | jim: run /sbin/lilo? |
| 14:27.44 | jim | eightchar: ok, sounds good then,,, btw, are you set up so that lilo can boot your prev kernel? |
| 14:27.47 | paulswm | !confort amorphix |
| 14:27.48 | dpkg | There, there, paulswm. amorphix will give a spelling checker for your birthday. |
| 14:27.55 | paulswm | !comfort amorphix |
| 14:27.56 | dpkg | There, there, amorphix. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 14:28.00 | amorphix | lol |
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| 14:28.03 | amorphix | back fired |
| 14:28.03 | paulswm | !botsnack |
| 14:28.04 | dpkg | thanks, paulswm |
| 14:28.39 | paulswm | amorphix: Yeah, that was a funny response though :) |
| 14:28.45 | amorphix | damn this really sux tho seriously |
| 14:28.56 | jim | eightchar, I have no idea about that part... is talking to a tech while you do the reboot process expensive? |
| 14:28.57 | amorphix | ive never had it so bad before, i like linux but this is taking the piss |
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| 14:29.23 | usuario_ | hello they |
| 14:29.28 | eightchar | jim: I don't talk, just open trouble tickett and it usually doesn't cost. |
| 14:29.40 | usuario_ | hijo puta |
| 14:29.54 | amorphix | wacom isnt exactly NEW hardware eh, serial one too..setting this up in Linux shud be a doddle |
| 14:29.57 | directhex|work | amorphix, what did m-a say? |
| 14:30.14 | amorphix | directhex|work, phew i couldnt make much sense of it..but it said: |
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| 14:30.27 | jim | so do they know how to reboot the machine? |
| 14:30.31 | jim | and, |
| 14:30.49 | jim | is the default boot set to the right kernel? |
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| 14:31.44 | HansZ | Ok, fglrx is working :) |
| 14:31.44 | amorphix | The substvars mechanism seems slightly broken, hack to get around it |
| 14:31.50 | amorphix | that doesnt look too good eh |
| 14:31.54 | HansZ | but my dvd device isn't listed at /dev/ |
| 14:32.06 | directhex|work | !congratulate HansZ |
| 14:32.06 | dpkg | Huzzah HansZ, you did it! |
| 14:32.15 | jim | default=<label> |
| 14:32.21 | HansZ | :) |
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| 14:32.44 | HansZ | Why is my dvd device not listed at /dev? |
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| 14:32.57 | jim | find that line and make sure <label> is the label of your kernel |
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| 14:32.58 | gandy909 | geez! anyone else ever type in a command anwonder why it hasn't produced any output 5 minutes later only to find out they typed it into a blank line in the file they were editing? |
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| 14:33.19 | jim | HansZ: you tell us |
| 14:33.25 | cahoot | HansZ: shows up in dmesg? |
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| 14:33.26 | amorphix | hex: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/wacom' .. *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
| 14:33.32 | HansZ | cahoot: checking |
| 14:34.00 | HansZ | cahoot: yes it's detected |
| 14:34.20 | cahoot | HansZ: using devfsd or udev? |
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| 14:34.21 | jim | HansZ: are you running devfs |
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| 14:34.43 | HansZ | I don't know what i'm using |
| 14:34.47 | jim | nm, he's got it |
| 14:34.56 | CosmoDad | which packages do I need to install to make "The GIMP" german (not just the help, but also the menu)? |
| 14:35.20 | jim | der GIMPenflugel? |
| 14:35.42 | HansZ | cahoot: Unsure |
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| 14:35.55 | g_eppel | I'm running Debian sid and this box acts as a network router/firewall (via custom IPTables script). I have two nics in the box my DSL connects to one and the other is connected to a router that is connected the rest of my computers. I have the router's DHCP turned off and I'm not using the wan part for all intensive purposes its simply a switch. My question is I'm buying a laptop for my wife with a wireless card and I'm going to buy a new |
| 14:36.16 | cahoot | HansZ: does 'pgrep devfsd' return anything? |
| 14:36.33 | HansZ | cahoot: blank (no stdout) |
| 14:36.35 | shakparl | what's a good way of keeping track of changes to a file by uid |
| 14:36.35 | mysurfguid1 | question guys, I got the hard drive put in as HDC , and I know its been on a windows box. but how can I find out what FS it is for that specific hard drive, ive done a tail and it says cannot find specific type for that hard drive |
| 14:37.07 | asg | shakparl: for people to store the file in cvs |
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| 14:37.13 | asg | s/for/force/ |
| 14:37.29 | shakparl | asg: tripwire doesn't track by uid, right |
| 14:37.44 | asg | shakparl: I don't think so, on. |
| 14:37.53 | PeTeRB | g_eppel: A new what? |
| 14:37.54 | shakparl | asg: ok thanks :) |
| 14:37.54 | asg | s/, on// |
| 14:37.59 | mysurfguid1 | nobody? |
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| 14:38.23 | cahoot | HansZ: looks like you don't use devfsd anyway, I doubt you could use udev unknowingly |
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| 14:38.45 | HansZ | cahoot: Okay |
| 14:38.50 | HansZ | cahoot: Is it needed? |
| 14:38.59 | cahoot | HansZ: no |
| 14:39.00 | asg | mysurfguid1: you did a tail? |
| 14:39.02 | sgeigerbot | Isn't there a way to have rsync copy a device to a file? I thought this might work: rsync -D /dev/hda6 /mnt/sda1/t42/hda6 |
| 14:39.02 | PeTeRB | mysurfguid1: fdisk -l /dev/hdc |
| 14:39.06 | sgeigerbot | ...but it doesn't work. |
| 14:39.09 | g_eppel | shakparl: a new wireless router |
| 14:39.14 | mysurfguid1 | ill try it |
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| 14:39.28 | HansZ | :+ |
| 14:39.31 | amorphix | checking for updated field names in hid-core.c... missing, using 2.4.19 ... |
| 14:39.46 | cyrille_ | hi there |
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| 14:39.52 | amorphix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:40.01 | mysurfguid1 | it gave me Disk /dev/hdc doesnt contain a valid partition table |
| 14:40.01 | yahalom | my pppoe disconnects and whn i type the connect command it doesnt always work unless i restart my comp, any ideaS? |
| 14:40.04 | amorphix | that means my kernel is no good? |
| 14:40.08 | mysurfguid1 | see there is info on the hard drive that I need |
| 14:40.11 | jim | g_eppel: sid for a gateway? why? |
| 14:40.23 | cyrille_ | could you give me a possible command to remove from a text file all the lines beginning with a givenstring? |
| 14:40.32 | shakparl | cyrille_: sed |
| 14:40.40 | HansZ | cahoot: what now :/ ? |
| 14:40.41 | asg | mysurfguid1: then format it and and off you go. |
| 14:40.49 | shakparl | cyrille_: in vi for example, :%s/<givenstring>//g |
| 14:40.53 | asg | cyrille_: man sed |
| 14:40.53 | mysurfguid1 | yeah but then again I need the info on the hard drive asg |
| 14:40.55 | amorphix | i think i need an easier Linux :-/ |
| 14:41.06 | mysurfguid1 | theres files I need |
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| 14:41.20 | cahoot | HansZ: what did dmesg report wrt the dvd? |
| 14:41.20 | cyrille_ | yes but I want to remove the whole line, not the given string |
| 14:41.20 | asg | mysurfguid1: try putting it in a windows box perhaps (or just dd an image for later perusal) |
| 14:41.26 | amorphix | damn ive been a Debian users for many years now, will be sad to change dist |
| 14:41.28 | PeTeRB | mysurfguid1: Did you try that command? |
| 14:41.35 | amorphix | *user |
| 14:41.41 | mysurfguid1 | yes Peter, and it gave me "no valid partition table" |
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| 14:41.50 | HansZ | cahoot: hdd: LITEON DVD_ROM LTD163, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| 14:42.00 | g_eppel | jim: I wanted a few apps that weren't in stable/testing |
| 14:42.00 | yahalom | nobody here us pppoe? |
| 14:42.06 | spoopin | asg: you did jac already? |
| 14:42.10 | mysurfguid1 | see I dont have a windows machine |
| 14:42.11 | mysurfguid1 | lol |
| 14:42.14 | asg | spoopin: *nod* |
| 14:42.18 | Knight_Lord | yahalom no us pppoe around here, all eu pppoe |
| 14:42.23 | cahoot | HansZ: so it's on /dev/hdd |
| 14:42.30 | spoopin | asg: cool |
| 14:42.32 | HansZ | cahoot: :/ |
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| 14:42.57 | yahalom | Knight_Lord, the us doesnt use pppoe? |
| 14:43.04 | HansZ | cahoot: mount /mnt/dvd /dev/hdd gives: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 14:43.06 | jim | g_eppel: ok, so you're also willing to fix any problems that come up, and report them and the fixes to the BTS... |
| 14:43.07 | mysurfguid1 | how do I find out what type of FS the hard drive is Peter? |
| 14:43.09 | jim | right? :) |
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| 14:43.21 | g_eppel | jim: yes I have in the past :-P |
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| 14:43.34 | _cow | cyrille_, either sed -e "s/^my keyword.*//g" or egrep -v "^something" infile > outfile |
| 14:43.40 | g_eppel | I would just like my question answered :-) |
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| 14:43.47 | PeTeRB | mysurfguid1: If there was a valid partition table there, fdisk -l would show you, but otherwise I don't know :/ |
| 14:43.54 | cyrille_ | _cow > thx a lot |
| 14:44.20 | mysurfguid1 | well, I got about 500mb left, couldnt I make a partition out of it and then take the info I need? |
| 14:44.39 | mysurfguid1 | its been on a windows can, so im guessing fat32 or ntfs |
| 14:44.45 | HansZ | cahoot: nvm it works :) |
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| 14:45.18 | jim | your question doesn't seem to be a complete sentence :) |
| 14:45.47 | nunez | I rebooted my external USB HDs, now how to do I get my kernel to see them there? |
| 14:45.51 | g_eppel | i have to go to work now... i'll come back later |
| 14:45.54 | jim | something like "if I buy a laptop for my wife, <what goes here>" |
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| 14:46.30 | basti | hello |
| 14:46.35 | HansZ | hi basti |
| 14:46.36 | silverton | When doing a netinst, is there a way to choose, either gnome, or kde instead of getting both of them? |
| 14:46.57 | mysurfguid1 | man this sucks, its gotta be either fat16, 32 or ntfs in order for it to work in a windows box, so its either of them, question is how do I find out what it is?, because it runs fine in a windows box |
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| 14:47.39 | mysurfguid1 | its only 1.6GB so I cannot get an OS on it, because only 500mb free |
| 14:47.45 | _cow | cyrille_, hm? |
| 14:47.50 | basti | hi hacim |
| 14:47.52 | PeTeRB | mysurfguid1: Why not just try mounting it :/ |
| 14:47.53 | basti | hi HansZ |
| 14:48.02 | mysurfguid1 | I did peter and it gives me wrong fstype |
| 14:48.16 | mysurfguid1 | and I did dmest | tail |
| 14:48.25 | mysurfguid1 | and it tells me cannot find fs type for hard drive |
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| 14:48.36 | QUACH-VU | does any one know why after i upgrade mysql 3.x to 4.1 i cant use my old phpmyadmin to login into my database? although i have use command mysql_fix_privilege_tables to fix privilege? |
| 14:48.44 | mysurfguid1 | Cant find a valid FAT filesystem on dev hdd |
| 14:48.46 | PeTeRB | mysurfguid1: Did you try the -t option for mount? |
| 14:48.48 | _cow | cyrille_, i don't see why it shouldn't work on big files |
| 14:48.58 | mysurfguid1 | no, peter, what would I do |
| 14:49.02 | mysurfguid1 | mount -tfat ? |
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| 14:49.07 | cyrille_ | _cow, just guessing... |
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| 14:49.19 | PeTeRB | mysurfguid1: -t vfat or -t ntfs I think |
| 14:49.26 | QUACH-VU | does any one know why after i upgrade mysql 3.x to 4.1 i cant use my old phpmyadmin to login into my database? although i have use command mysql_fix_privilege_tables to fix privilege? |
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| 14:49.28 | mysurfguid1 | ok ty ima try |
| 14:50.06 | mysurfguid1 | both ntfs and fat gives me wrong fs type |
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| 14:50.41 | dippo | Hi. I've got quotas working with the "quota" and "quotatool" packages, but does anyone know of a way to make a default quota set for new users? |
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| 14:50.51 | QUACH-VU | does any one know why after i upgrade mysql 3.x to 4.1 i cant use my old phpmyadmin to login into my database? although i have use command mysql_fix_privilege_tables to fix privilege? |
| 14:50.54 | nunez | I rebooted my external USB HDs, now how to do I get my kernel to see them there? |
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| 14:51.47 | doub | QUACH-VU: maybe the mysql server logs have a clue as to what happens |
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| 14:51.59 | dron | hi guys! im trying to unpack 9Gb file with tar, partition type ext3, trying to unpack from one partition to another, but stops unpacking! and geaves me console without any error :( |
| 14:52.23 | doub | QUACH-VU: but don't repeat your question in such a short time, if no-one nows right now, chances are this won't change in 5 minutes |
| 14:52.35 | mysurfguid1 | anybody in here ever mounted a windows hd on debian and had "doesnt contain a valid partition table" error? |
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| 14:53.00 | cyrille_ | _cow, your solution with egrep is definitely what i needed, thx a lot! |
| 14:53.01 | doub | mysurfguid1: what does fdisk -l say ? |
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| 14:53.10 | QUACH-VU | <doub> mysql sever is still runnung and old database are still accessable, but that new one i creat after upgrade dont work |
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| 14:53.49 | doub | QUACH-VU: i don't know mysql, that was just a 2c tip |
| 14:53.54 | QUACH-VU | where should i check log for mysql ? |
| 14:54.03 | mysurfguid1 | Disk doesnt contain a valid partition table, and hdrs and cylinder info doub |
| 14:54.15 | doub | QUACH-VU: presumably in /var/log/mysql* |
| 14:54.22 | jhaig | Is Sarge still due for release on 30th? The Debian web site says 'if everything goes as planned', so is everything going to plan? |
| 14:54.27 | cyrille_ | QUACH-VU, /var/log? |
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| 14:54.50 | doub | mysurfguid1: yet your disk works under loosedows? |
| 14:55.15 | QUACH-VU | yes thanks |
| 14:55.16 | mysurfguid1 | it works fine on a windows machine doub |
| 14:55.26 | mysurfguid1 | theres files on it I need |
| 14:55.33 | hcy | does anybody have or know where I can get libapache2_mod_limitipconn ? |
| 14:55.42 | hcy | i mean, a .deb for that? |
| 14:55.49 | mysurfguid1 | weve tried the apache room no luck |
| 14:55.56 | doub | mysurfguid1: is it some dynamic partition table windowsish thing? |
| 14:56.05 | dron | so anybody knows if there limits unpacking big files with tar? |
| 14:56.18 | mysurfguid1 | I am not sure, thats what so bad doub, but isnt there any way to trace the last used FS type for partitioning? |
| 14:56.33 | amorphix | thanks for all your help guys |
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| 14:57.10 | doub | mysurfguid1: you can try gpart which scans the whole drive for fs signatures, but it's damn slow if you don't have a partition table |
| 14:57.18 | mysurfguid1 | oh man |
| 14:57.24 | mysurfguid1 | its for work, deadline is today |
| 14:57.25 | mysurfguid1 | lol |
| 14:57.48 | doub | mysurfguid1: "slow" means it takes 2-3 hours average |
| 14:57.57 | mysurfguid1 | well its a 2GB hard drive |
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| 14:58.13 | doub | mysurfguid1: it should be faster then. just give it a try |
| 14:58.21 | mysurfguid1 | is gpart a pkg? |
| 14:58.29 | doub | mysurfguid1: i guess so |
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| 14:58.51 | doub | !info gpart |
| 14:58.54 | dpkg | gpart: (Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.1h-4 (sid), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 69 kB |
| 14:59.06 | kokoko1 | someone pls check if www.firstmarvel.com working or not? |
| 14:59.10 | jim | mysurfguid1: evidently |
| 14:59.51 | mysurfguid1 | ty jim/doub I will try |
| 14:59.53 | doub | mysurfguid1: but anyway, did you change the bios settings for your HD between the windows run and the debian one? maybe |
| 15:00.08 | doub | mysurfguid1: the bios has changed access method and thus lost the partition table |
| 15:00.20 | mysurfguid1 | doub I just plugged it in to a free slot |
| 15:00.24 | mysurfguid1 | didnt change bios :( |
| 15:00.27 | senkzer0 | hi |
| 15:00.30 | senkzer0 | I need help |
| 15:00.35 | doub | senkzer0: me too |
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| 15:00.44 | senkzer0 | i've completed the first part of the debian installation |
| 15:00.45 | doub | !tell senkzer0 about ask |
| 15:00.56 | mysurfguid1 | its very weird to me because it is plugable straight into a windows machine |
| 15:01.00 | nunez | how do I turn off a module? |
| 15:01.09 | doub | nunez: you can unload it with rmmod |
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| 15:01.37 | senkzer0 | i've intalled lilo in the root of /dev/hda4 |
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| 15:01.49 | senkzer0 | and i've grub in other GNU partition |
| 15:02.13 | senkzer0 | i need to configure this grub for continue with the debian installation |
| 15:02.17 | senkzer0 | can you help me? |
| 15:02.20 | doub | mysurfguid1: windows 2000 has introduced a new partitionning scheme, similar to LVM, AFAIK. maybe isn't it supported under linux |
| 15:03.15 | zumbi | !info scratchbox |
| 15:03.19 | doub | senkzer0: what do you want to do? install grub in MBR? |
| 15:03.25 | senkzer0 | no |
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| 15:03.45 | senkzer0 | i've already installed grub in /dev/hda3 |
| 15:03.48 | senkzer0 | and in MBR |
| 15:03.50 | senkzer0 | ok? |
| 15:03.54 | mysurfguid1 | doub / do you know how much space windows 2000 takes on a hard drive? |
| 15:03.59 | senkzer0 | i need to configure this grub |
| 15:04.06 | senkzer0 | for continue the installation |
| 15:04.06 | fatal_ | doub: it's called "dynamic disks" AFAIK, and IIRC a long time ago the linux ntfs module could only see the first partition inside a dynamic disk, but I think support has been added since then... |
| 15:04.15 | senkzer0 | i've only installed the base system |
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| 15:04.21 | doub | mysurfguid1: the base w2k sp1 is about 1g IIRC |
| 15:04.36 | xian | hi all |
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| 15:04.51 | mysurfguid1 | hmm, that sucks tho I only got like 680 left on it |
| 15:04.55 | senkzer0 | how can i continue this installation configuring the grub? |
| 15:04.55 | nunez | doub: it says usb_storage is in use yet it wont let me and doesnt see my usb harddrive because I rebooted them after bootup |
| 15:04.57 | mysurfguid1 | I dont know what to do with it |
| 15:05.32 | mysurfguid1 | I got 1.2 gigs of royalty free images on it that I need |
| 15:05.40 | senkzer0 | the debian installation is in /dev/hda4 |
| 15:05.47 | PeTeRB | senkzer0: I think you need chainloading |
| 15:06.01 | senkzer0 | and how can i do this? |
| 15:06.07 | PeTeRB | Hold on |
| 15:06.22 | senkzer0 | (i'm beginner jajajaj, but i learn fast) |
| 15:06.58 | doub | nunez: that means you have a mounted usb storage device already |
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| 15:07.34 | nunez | doub: df -h doesnt show me any of them mounted |
| 15:07.54 | doub | nunez: and as long as usb_storage module is loaded, it won't change the drive settings, as it tries to make the kernel believe the drive is still there after removal |
| 15:08.03 | xian | what is the difference between debian kernel packages kernel-image-2.4.27-1 and kernel-image-2.4.27-2 ? Or kernel-image-2.6.8-1 and kernel-image-2.6.8-2 ? |
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| 15:08.14 | mysurfguid1 | well wtf, I did df -h and it shows /dev/hdc as mounted |
| 15:08.16 | doub | nunez: what does 'mount' say? |
| 15:08.37 | xian | i can see different modules, but does this numbering mean anything? |
| 15:08.46 | nunez | doub: none of them are my external usb HDs |
| 15:09.00 | doub | nunez: any swap partition on it? |
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| 15:09.55 | doub | nunez: look at /proc/mounts then. maybe some auto-clicky-clicky stuff is just fucking up |
| 15:10.01 | PeTeRB | senkzer0: Do you want to boot straight to Debian or you want grub to load lilo? |
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| 15:10.29 | rixth | screens for GDM? |
| 15:10.31 | jim | xian: -2 is same version but changed from -1 and reuploaded |
| 15:10.37 | senkzer0 | grub to load lilo |
| 15:10.37 | senkzer0 | plz |
| 15:10.40 | rixth | Can someone reccomend a good tutorial for making login screens for GDM? |
| 15:10.45 | senkzer0 | it's the best solution |
| 15:11.14 | senkzer0 | lilo is in the root of /dev/hda4 |
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| 15:11.23 | nunez | doub: there is no /proc/mount* |
| 15:11.24 | doub | mysurfguid1: your whole drive? as a fs? no partition table? that's possible but unusual, especially with windows |
| 15:11.33 | xian | with -1 my pcmcia gets powered on but with -2 doesn't |
| 15:11.48 | doub | nunez: is there anything in /proc ? |
| 15:11.52 | nunez | doub: theres a tmpfs and a devpts but no swap |
| 15:11.54 | xian | i thought they are for different purpses |
| 15:11.57 | jim | xian: look at config files in /boot |
| 15:12.00 | nunez | doub: yeah |
| 15:12.01 | jim | compare |
| 15:12.17 | jim | see what the change was and look in changelog for why |
| 15:12.27 | CrAzYWolF | onething what do i need to setup to have a linux box to share the internet and proxy with another computer? |
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| 15:12.42 | doub | nunez: so you should have /proc/mounts. or you're using some strange kernel |
| 15:12.44 | xian | no difference :-O |
| 15:12.59 | jim | look in changelog |
| 15:13.31 | jhaig | Anyone know if Sarge will become stable on 30th May? The Debian website says that it will if everything goes as planned, but that was written when it was frozen. |
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| 15:13.37 | nunez | doub: yeah, its worked, just this boot didnt like them |
| 15:13.42 | jim | jhaig: wir |
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| 15:13.57 | jhaig | wir? |
| 15:14.03 | nunez | doub: I have /proc/mounts, what am I looking for? |
| 15:14.03 | jim | !wir |
| 15:14.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 15:14.57 | fissoz | !sex |
| 15:14.57 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 15:15.02 | jhaig | OK, thanks. |
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| 15:15.15 | Rayn | ok guys, you know it's bad when this is funny: "Your momma's so old, she's in Debian Stable." |
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| 15:15.42 | doub | CrAzYWolF: see debian-reference (on the debian website or pkg of same name), section 10.14 |
| 15:15.50 | jim | not funny to me :P |
| 15:15.54 | PeTeRB | senkzer0: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Chain-loading |
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| 15:16.06 | CrAzYWolF | thanks doub |
| 15:16.09 | Rayn | jim: bah, I knew it wouldn't go over well in #debian ;) |
| 15:16.19 | senkzer0 | ok |
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| 15:16.21 | senkzer0 | thanks |
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| 15:16.44 | PeTeRB | senkzer0: /dev/hda4 should be hd(0,4) |
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| 15:17.04 | jim | 0,3? |
| 15:17.11 | PeTeRB | Right. |
| 15:17.13 | nunez | I have kernel 2.6.8-2-386 installed, yet im running an i686? Will that mess things up? |
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| 15:17.29 | senkzer0 | ok |
| 15:17.40 | PeTeRB | senkzer0: 0,3 |
| 15:17.41 | asg | nunez: no |
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| 15:17.51 | doub | nunez: 386 is the x86 compatible kernel, works for all PCs |
| 15:17.56 | asg | nunez: feel free to install 2.6.8-2-686 if it makes you happy |
| 15:18.02 | doub | nunez: look for /dev/sd* in /proc/mounts |
| 15:18.17 | nunez | doub: There isnt any of my external HDs in there |
| 15:18.22 | nunez | asg: will it run faster? |
| 15:18.30 | jim | if it's chased |
| 15:18.32 | nunez | asg: I'm running a P4 3.2ghz |
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| 15:18.46 | nunez | jim: Its a nigerian |
| 15:19.00 | jim | in that case it will spam first |
| 15:19.02 | asg | nunez: it should run a little faster but not noticably so |
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| 15:19.42 | nunez | asg: hmm, its installing lilo |
| 15:20.02 | senkzer0 | hda4's (0,3) ??? |
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| 15:20.15 | senkzer0 | ok, i've read about chainloader |
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| 15:20.29 | jim | senkzer0: read about the rest of grub now |
| 15:20.33 | senkzer0 | now i understand you were sating me |
| 15:20.37 | asg | nunez: it shouldn't if you have grub already |
| 15:20.39 | senkzer0 | saying |
| 15:20.40 | senkzer0 | sorry |
| 15:20.41 | senkzer0 | jaja |
| 15:20.45 | senkzer0 | ok |
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| 15:21.03 | jim | heshe's baaaaack |
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| 15:22.46 | diesel | I am trying to reconfigure X with dpkg-reconfigure. When I go to look at the XF86Config file that it wrote, it is not present in /etc/X11. Any suggestions? |
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| 15:23.22 | jim | suggestion: find where it is |
| 15:23.27 | PeTeRB | Any reason I should use devfs or udev if I was fine without them before? |
| 15:23.35 | senkzer0 | ok |
| 15:23.37 | jim | I don't see any |
| 15:23.41 | senkzer0 | i'm going to restart |
| 15:23.44 | senkzer0 | to reboot |
| 15:23.49 | senkzer0 | thank |
| 15:23.51 | senkzer0 | bye |
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| 15:24.24 | mysurfguid1 | funny thing is now when I do fsck -l /dev/hdd I get "Currently only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 191" and it says FAT32 above it |
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| 15:24.31 | mysurfguid1 | but I cannot get it to mount |
| 15:24.36 | mysurfguid1 | I dont know how to mount it in FAT32 |
| 15:24.37 | asg | diesel: /msg dpkg x md5sum |
| 15:24.49 | lewis | every now and again, when connecting to proftpd, I get a 'connection refused'. I have to delete /var/run/proftpd.delay and /var/run/proftpd.scoreboard for things to work again. Can anyone give me any advice, please? |
| 15:24.51 | cahoot | PeTeRB: several usb devices that are plugged/unplugged repeatedly - udev might make it easier to keep a consistent devicename |
| 15:24.55 | usuario | ola |
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| 15:25.06 | Chiletix | Hello, how can I reinstal ore install the controlers for my ATI all in Wonder Radeon? |
| 15:25.10 | PeTeRB | cahoot: I don't even have any USB ports |
| 15:25.20 | usuario | what tis |
| 15:25.20 | jim | lewis: advice: find out why |
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| 15:25.29 | lewis | heh |
| 15:25.36 | mysurfguid1 | anybody know how to mount a hard drive in specific FAT32 fs? |
| 15:25.36 | lewis | i am trying to find out. |
| 15:25.38 | Chiletix | The way I can watch TV on it and use the incoming and aotgoing video |
| 15:25.57 | cahoot | PeTeRB: well you asked for *any* reason - that's the one I could think of |
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| 15:26.33 | jim | lewis: how? |
| 15:26.36 | PeTeRB | cahoot: True. I'll remember that for future reference |
| 15:27.02 | mysurfguid1 | ive tried mounting in vfat but not done anything, and how do I unmount because of current it is mounted as a cdrom |
| 15:27.05 | mysurfguid1 | which it shouldnt be |
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| 15:27.17 | lewis | well, from my google searching, I know how to turn off the proftpd ModDelay module, though doing so isn't a good idea. Apart from that, decided to ask in here. |
| 15:27.17 | PeTeRB | mysurfguid1: Erm. umount ? |
| 15:27.23 | mysurfguid1 | ty peter |
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| 15:28.03 | asg | lewis: did you ask #proftpd yet? |
| 15:28.24 | lewis | yeh - no response |
| 15:28.28 | mysurfguid1 | says device is busy. so ill just have to fiddle around I guess |
| 15:28.28 | jim | did you read the docs yet? :) |
| 15:28.44 | Chiletix | mysurfguid1, first off all you have to create the folder where you want to mount de unit, then you dou mount /dev/hd** /where/do/you/want/to/mount/it |
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| 15:29.01 | lewis | the docs don't mention people's problems, or more specifically, mine. |
| 15:29.06 | mysurfguid1 | ive done that chiletix |
| 15:29.14 | lewis | i was hoping that someone in here might have used proftpd, and share experience. |
| 15:29.21 | Chiletix | mysurfguid1, and nothing, ? |
| 15:29.30 | jim | so you've read them? |
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| 15:29.36 | mysurfguid1 | no , it still wont, if I try it the way it should be then it gives me wrong fs type |
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| 15:29.51 | mysurfguid1 | and I know its FAT32 because it gives me that much info now with fsck -l option |
| 15:29.55 | Chiletix | mysurfguid1, an configuring ftab? |
| 15:30.07 | lewis | jim: yes |
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| 15:30.11 | mysurfguid1 | doesnt help, ive tried doing it right there, but it still wont mount it |
| 15:30.20 | mysurfguid1 | and now for some reasons it mounts as my cdrom which it shouldnt |
| 15:30.30 | mysurfguid1 | so both dev/hdc and dev/hdd is my cdrom |
| 15:30.34 | mysurfguid1 | which is mucked up |
| 15:30.50 | Chiletix | hdd your cdrom? |
| 15:30.57 | mysurfguid1 | yeah thats what it finds it as |
| 15:31.08 | Chiletix | your cdrom should be /dev/cdrom |
| 15:31.09 | mysurfguid1 | cdrom should be hdc |
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| 15:31.19 | kc9ddi | I'm trying to configure a parallel-processing beowulf cluster with some old PC's. What's the prefered method? Do I install a minimal Debian install on to each box, or do some kind of network booting, or network image download, or something? Any advice? |
| 15:31.23 | mysurfguid1 | lemme change that cyr |
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| 15:31.57 | Chiletix | hd means hard drive de firt letter is wich unit it is and de seccond de partition |
| 15:32.08 | mysurfguid1 | I know, its a mess |
| 15:32.13 | kanzen | Can anyone point me to a 2.4 tuning guide for dealing with large files on a system that has PAE (64G) enabled? |
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| 15:32.26 | kanzen | The cache just seems to grow and grow and grow |
| 15:32.27 | Chiletix | yes but your cdrom is cdrom and nothing else |
| 15:32.40 | mysurfguid1 | says its already mounted now |
| 15:32.45 | mysurfguid1 | ive mounted cd as /dev/cdrom |
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| 15:32.51 | mysurfguid1 | and changed hd to hdc |
| 15:33.03 | Chiletix | ok |
| 15:33.12 | Chiletix | and what is your problem? |
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| 15:33.15 | mysurfguid1 | when I try to unmount it gives me device is busy |
| 15:33.25 | mysurfguid1 | problem is I cannot get the hard drive mounted properly |
| 15:33.36 | mysurfguid1 | when I do try it gives me wrong fs type |
| 15:33.41 | mysurfguid1 | which I now know is fat32 |
| 15:33.45 | mysurfguid1 | and when I do vfat |
| 15:33.50 | mysurfguid1 | it still errors me bad fs type |
| 15:34.01 | mysurfguid1 | I did dmesg | tail |
| 15:34.05 | mysurfguid1 | it tells me the same thing |
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| 15:34.23 | Chiletix | mysurfguid1, I realy dont now? |
| 15:34.37 | mysurfguid1 | its weird to me because it just got unplugged from a windows box |
| 15:34.41 | mysurfguid1 | and I dont have one at home |
| 15:34.46 | mysurfguid1 | out of all 7 boxes no windows |
| 15:34.50 | Chiletix | mysurfguid1, sorry, I have got the same problem ny my laptop |
| 15:34.58 | mysurfguid1 | oh, that sucks man |
| 15:35.14 | Chiletix | yes thats tru |
| 15:35.25 | mysurfguid1 | and the hdrs havent even been touched |
| 15:35.30 | mysurfguid1 | it got straight out of a MS box |
| 15:35.33 | mysurfguid1 | and into a deb one |
| 15:35.48 | mysurfguid1 | worst part is here... |
| 15:35.51 | Chiletix | bye |
| 15:35.54 | Chiletix | se you |
| 15:35.56 | mysurfguid1 | deadline is today and I need the material on it |
| 15:35.59 | Chiletix | see you |
| 15:36.05 | Chiletix | bye |
| 15:36.16 | mysurfguid1 | laters lol |
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| 15:40.57 | paulswm | asg, you there? |
| 15:41.24 | asg | paulswm: yes |
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| 15:42.37 | kanzure | If I apt-get install symphonyos, will Debian add it to my lilo bootmenu? Or will it just "overwrite" my debian installation? |
| 15:43.06 | kanzure | did I send my last message? |
| 15:43.16 | paulswm | asg: put this before the perl script to extract qotds and sort prior to processing: |
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| 15:43.48 | paulswm | asg: egrep '^INSERT INTO `factoids`.*qotd([1-9][0-9]*)' apt_dump |sed 's/\(''qotd\)\([1-9][0-9]*\)''/\1#\2#/'|sort -t'#' -n -k2|sed 's/\(''qotd\)#\([1-9][0-9]*\)#''/\1\2/' |
| 15:43.58 | kevsah | for the life of me i cant find where the eplugin manage in evolution is supposed to be. anyone know? |
| 15:44.03 | kevsah | s/manage/manager |
| 15:44.09 | mysurfguid1 | okay I got a new error now "VFS: busy inodes on changed media" , on the vfat hard drive, anybody knows? |
| 15:44.19 | paulswm | Or whatever, that's specifically referencing an input file |
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| 15:44.33 | Mash | hello |
| 15:44.42 | asg | paulswm: nifty, thanks. |
| 15:44.47 | paulswm | asg: and of course pipe it to qotd2for |
| 15:44.56 | paulswm | asg: YW, I love shell stuff :) |
| 15:45.34 | mysurfguid1 | hmm |
| 15:45.43 | mysurfguid1 | anybody in here particularily good at hard drives? |
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| 15:46.49 | orjan | reading the x-not-vnc factoid it points to microimages where I find the mi/x server. however it seems not to be free as said in the factoid. is there some other server than mi/x? |
| 15:46.59 | mysurfguid1 | huh, weird it says "Primary boot sector is invalid" if I try it as a NTFS table |
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| 15:48.25 | xpato | how can i specify a ldap user to do the search in ldap.conf |
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| 15:48.50 | FabParma | Pls, how can i set the "bash autocompletion"? |
| 15:49.05 | [HS]arnakin | samba very slow transfers both directions (network bridge wi-fi / ethernet on winXP stat), no errors on starting, no erros on file tranfer, eth configs are good, network working correctly, FTP wroking correctly ... I'm lost pl help ! |
| 15:49.25 | tarzeau | !pls |
| 15:49.25 | dpkg | Cud u plz spk englsh bcuz wen u spk lke ths u luk lke a moron. |
| 15:49.59 | kanzen | heh! |
| 15:50.15 | mysurfguid1 | !pls snacka svenska |
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| 15:50.39 | [HS]arnakin | !pls |
| 15:50.39 | dpkg | Cud u plz spk englsh bcuz wen u spk lke ths u luk lke a moron. |
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| 15:50.44 | mysurfguid1 | weird |
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| 15:51.27 | [HS]arnakin | pl help with samba big trouble :) |
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| 15:53.21 | FabParma | How to activate the "bash autocompletion"? Thank You |
| 15:53.38 | furrywolf | fab: unless you deactivated, it should be activated by default? |
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| 15:54.59 | FabParma | furrywolf: i mean an extended auto-completion |
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| 15:57.05 | caphuso | FabParma: source /etc/bash_completion |
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| 15:57.38 | caphuso | and it's not auto-completion, you still have to hit tab to actually do anything |
| 15:58.29 | FabParma | sorry im on the phone. ill back in few min |
| 15:59.01 | asg | paulswm: there is one bug where a deleted qotdx matches due to greediness in the regex that catches qotd7. Just an fyi, I fixed it in my pipeline. |
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| 16:00.12 | jim | FabParma: maybe they'll repeat for you... but better for you to scroll back (that seems like the definitive answer up there) |
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| 16:01.29 | lozmaru|Debian | Is there a typing trainer in debian? |
| 16:01.35 | mysurfguid1 | yeah ktype |
| 16:01.38 | jim | typist |
| 16:01.45 | mysurfguid1 | my gf uses it |
| 16:01.51 | mysurfguid1 | its really cool, make your own levels |
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| 16:03.07 | pasci | hallo |
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| 16:03.30 | jim | roomo |
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| 16:04.20 | FabParma | caphuso: I done "source /etc/bash_completion" ,I restarted the terminal, but i have the default bash again |
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| 16:04.30 | caphuso | FabParma: so put it in your .bashrc |
| 16:04.32 | CrAzYWolF | one thing when i installed debian and i specify that i wanted the os to be a normal workstation not a server to make it a server i just need to configure the proper options, or there are some files that need to be installed from the cd? |
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| 16:04.44 | furrywolf | lozmaru: irc is a very good typing trainer. if you make too many typos, the regulars here yell at you. :P |
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| 16:04.52 | RichiH | what's the command to show open tcp connections with the remote IP, again? |
| 16:05.05 | gnat_x | quick question. is df the right tool for determining hard drive size (one of 2 raided scsi drives died i have to find out size and price replacement). |
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| 16:05.18 | jim | tcpdump? iptraf? trafshow? netstat? |
| 16:05.19 | mikeX | is there a command for removing a user from a group, or should I just edit passwd? |
| 16:05.29 | jim | usermod |
| 16:05.36 | CrAzYWolF | ? |
| 16:05.40 | jim | ? |
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| 16:05.45 | marius_ | what module do i need to be able to set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ? if i echo 1 to it the value remains 0. |
| 16:05.45 | caphuso | mikeX: deluser user group |
| 16:05.56 | lozmaru|Debian | thankx^^ |
| 16:06.03 | mikeX | caphuso, thanks |
| 16:06.34 | CrAzYWolF | you are going to leave me blind man |
| 16:06.35 | jim | was that a hokey pokey? |
| 16:06.53 | furrywolf | blind? wtf? lol |
| 16:07.12 | CrAzYWolF | >:P |
| 16:07.15 | CrAzYWolF | hahaha |
| 16:07.51 | shingouz | (those canines are weird... ;) |
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| 16:08.14 | furrywolf | shingouz: I have no clue what he's talking about... perhaps crazy is a good descriptor? :) |
| 16:08.26 | shingouz | could be :) |
| 16:08.27 | FabParma | caphuso: I would like to get the function like when I am typing ,for instance -ping 10.0.0.0- , after typed the first two letter i get the recent typed commands. Something like the address bar in Firefox |
| 16:08.32 | CrAzYWolF | what me hell no doint point your paw at me |
| 16:09.04 | shingouz | at least he didnt rub your snout in it, CrAzYWolF |
| 16:09.15 | CrAzYWolF | true heh |
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| 16:09.35 | jim | crazy furry piss then stirry |
| 16:09.44 | caphuso | FabParma: i don't think bash supports that |
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| 16:10.03 | descript_ | helloo` |
| 16:10.07 | FabParma | caphuso: I remember that during a Linux course a teacher told me that was possible, but i cant remember how... |
| 16:10.11 | CrAzYWolF | yo look my nick |
| 16:10.14 | CrAzYWolF | CrAzY |
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| 16:10.27 | caphuso | FabParma: then he was either wrong or you misunderstood him |
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| 16:10.42 | descript_ | i have a problem when i try to apt-get update my woody to sid. The problem is a mmap room |
| 16:10.53 | shingouz | FabParma: some other shell may be able to do that, i cant remember which one |
| 16:10.56 | jim | CrAzYWolF: so we're expected to match your capitalization? |
| 16:11.00 | furrywolf | !mmap |
| 16:11.01 | dpkg | somebody said dynamic mmap was "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
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| 16:11.10 | descript_ | how do i can fix this problem ? |
| 16:11.11 | marius_ | why can't i set ip_forward to 1 ? anyone know what i need to do do be able to do this? i'm using debian sarge stock kernel |
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| 16:11.17 | fhffhqvb | !ops Monitor spambot |
| 16:11.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Monitor spambot |
| 16:11.20 | CrAzYWolF | yup |
| 16:11.23 | jim | only reason I did it was because clicking twice was probably faster than typing it |
| 16:11.30 | shingouz | read what dpkg said, descript_ |
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| 16:12.04 | descript_ | oki :) |
| 16:12.10 | descript_ | yes yes oki :) |
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| 16:12.59 | FabParma | caphuso: believe me, im sure that is possible, just changing the bash values. i have to search on internet. i hope to find something. thank You anyway caphuso |
| 16:13.11 | caphuso | FabParma: if you find a way, let me know |
| 16:13.28 | FabParma | caphuso: definetelly |
| 16:13.40 | furrywolf | I have a tendancy to do that... type 19<tab> expecting 192.168.1. to appear. :) |
| 16:13.43 | mtnman | mairus_: add "ip_forward=yes" to /etc/network/options |
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| 16:14.44 | marius_ | mtnman that did not do it for me |
| 16:14.59 | mtnman | marius_: did you reboot after changing the config? |
| 16:15.02 | mysurfguid1 | noone in here good at partitioning? |
| 16:15.09 | mysurfguid1 | well mounting to be specific |
| 16:15.18 | descript_ | !mmap |
| 16:15.18 | dpkg | somebody said dynamic mmap was "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
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| 16:15.39 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: just state the problem |
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| 16:15.57 | marius_ | mtnman that does not do anything with the kernel me thinks. it just tells the startup scripts to echo 1>/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
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| 16:16.21 | mysurfguid1 | problem is that I got a 2GB hd that has been on a windows box, ive added it to fstab. it is FS fat32 and when I try to mount it, I get invalid partition table and busy inodes on changed media |
| 16:16.22 | FabParma | shingouz: Do You mean "ZSH" ? |
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| 16:16.26 | alfadir | furrywolf: maybe autocompletion can be made to do that.. : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/130 |
| 16:16.30 | mtnman | marius_: that echo is what tells the kernel to do ip forwarding. |
| 16:16.32 | mysurfguid1 | it recognizes the hard drive on /hdc as a cdrom for some reason |
| 16:16.44 | shingouz | FabParma: zsh might be able to do that |
| 16:16.48 | tarzeau | what if debian runs out of all players of toy story one and two. can then sid get testing and stable? |
| 16:16.55 | tarzeau | maybe in 10 or 20 years? |
| 16:17.08 | mysurfguid1 | and ive added as follows : /dev/hdc /exthdd vfat default |
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| 16:17.09 | marius_ | mtnman yes and on my system it fails. i can echo it but the value remains 0 so my problem is somewhere else |
| 16:17.09 | mtnman | marius_: editing things in /proc is a way to control the kernel's behavior. |
| 16:17.12 | mysurfguid1 | options that is in fstab |
| 16:17.16 | chealer | tarzeau: you're right, this is a big concern for me |
| 16:17.26 | pipeline | tarzeau: I think you underestimate how many characters there are. We'll be dead before they run out. |
| 16:17.48 | mtnman | marius_: how does it fail? |
| 16:17.49 | tarzeau | pipeline: certainly if they release as fast, as they do it now |
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| 16:17.55 | FabParma | shingouz: the defalt config has more functions that the normal bash, but unfortunetelly has not the auto-comletation that im lookig for |
| 16:17.57 | takatumi | tarzeau: looking at all the prequels, maybe by then we'll have a Toystory -1 :P |
| 16:17.57 | tarzeau | pipeline: i think a spiderweb in the debian logo would be nice |
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| 16:18.07 | mysurfguid1 | I cannot seem to get what the problem is |
| 16:18.12 | descript_ | <flood> |
| 16:18.13 | descript_ | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 16:18.13 | descript_ | E: Error occured while processing xlibmesa3 (NewVersion1) |
| 16:18.13 | descript_ | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_stable_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 16:18.14 | descript_ | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
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| 16:18.16 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: the system thinks the hdc is a cdrom and not a real hd? |
| 16:18.19 | mtnman | marius_: are you doing the echo as root? |
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| 16:18.21 | tarzeau | !mmap |
| 16:18.21 | dpkg | from memory, dynamic mmap is "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
| 16:18.22 | descript_ | brr |
| 16:18.28 | mysurfguid1 | yes shingouz, I dont understand why it does that |
| 16:18.32 | descript_ | i put PT::Cache-Limit 902582912; |
| 16:18.32 | alfadir | FabParma: is it this you are looking for ? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/130 |
| 16:18.33 | tarzeau | !tell descript_ about flood |
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| 16:18.35 | mysurfguid1 | ive had to run hdc as a cdrom |
| 16:18.40 | marius_ | mtnman yes as root and it fails without messages |
| 16:18.41 | descript_ | yes sorry |
| 16:18.49 | mtnman | marius_: sounds odd. |
| 16:18.57 | mysurfguid1 | but now ive got the hard drive as hdc |
| 16:18.59 | tarzeau | takatumi: tried it now? http://bub-n-bros.sf.net #bub-n-bros |
| 16:19.02 | descript_ | i put PT::Cache-Limit 902582912; into the apt.conf and it doesn't work |
| 16:19.08 | mysurfguid1 | and ive moved cdrom to dev/cdrom |
| 16:19.11 | mysurfguid1 | and it works fine |
| 16:19.12 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: dmesg | grep hdc and paste in #flood |
| 16:19.18 | descript_ | E: Error occured while processing xlibmesa3 (NewVersion1) |
| 16:19.18 | descript_ | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_stable_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 16:19.20 | mtnman | marius_: have you edited /etc/network/options and rebooted? |
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| 16:19.30 | shingouz | !tell descript_ about paster |
| 16:19.33 | mysurfguid1 | nothing shingouz, it gave me nada |
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| 16:19.46 | shingouz | nothing? |
| 16:19.47 | Dict_02x | hi all..... |
| 16:19.53 | yaccobb | how can I format hard drive to FAT32 ? |
| 16:19.55 | FabParma | alfadir: i have a look |
| 16:19.57 | takatumi | tarzeau: it'll still suck on 64K dsl, upgrading next month, will try then. |
| 16:19.59 | descript_ | okay sorry i will take mind for futur |
| 16:20.06 | mysurfguid1 | nope nothing, shigouz, it gives me nada |
| 16:20.07 | Dict_02x | how can I configure my adsl connection in my newly installed system? |
| 16:20.09 | descript_ | but how i can fix this problem ? |
| 16:20.09 | mikeX | yaccobb, install dosfstools |
| 16:20.12 | marius_ | mtnman i doubt that will solve my problems I have rebooted before and that config does nothing more that what i should be able to do manualy |
| 16:20.16 | yaccobb | MikeH_: thanks |
| 16:20.27 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: damn. are you sure the hd is even it running condition? |
| 16:20.29 | takatumi | tarzeau: but I'm sure you'll have something new by then. |
| 16:20.31 | descript_ | Dict_02x : try apt-get install pppoeconf | pppoeconf |
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| 16:20.44 | mikeX | yaccobb, then you should have mkfs.vfat |
| 16:20.45 | yaccobb | mikeX: thanks |
| 16:20.46 | Dict_02x | descript_, dude, I do not have an internet connection |
| 16:20.48 | mtnman | marius_: well, that is the way to do what you want. if it doesn't work, i bet you are not doing it correctly. |
| 16:20.50 | mysurfguid1 | yes it works fine on a windows box shingouz |
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| 16:21.04 | descript_ | Dict_02x well which one do you have ?! |
| 16:21.05 | mysurfguid1 | shingouz, I took it straight out of a win xp box |
| 16:21.09 | descript_ | water connection ? |
| 16:21.15 | Dict_02x | descript_, I just want to have all the ip's ready, how to set my gateway and how to add the DNS information.. that's it |
| 16:21.16 | descript_ | someone can help me plz ? |
| 16:21.17 | mysurfguid1 | fsck -l /dev/hdc gives me that its a FAT32 |
| 16:21.22 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: vfat? xp does ntfs afaik |
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| 16:21.26 | Dict_02x | descript_, I am in the windows section of my laptop :) |
| 16:21.30 | tarzeau | takatumi: heh. no don't think so, i keep falling back to nethack |
| 16:21.34 | mysurfguid1 | but I dont know how to mount it specific fat32 |
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| 16:21.37 | mysurfguid1 | you can do both shingouz |
| 16:21.43 | mysurfguid1 | and this is a 2gb small hd |
| 16:21.47 | mysurfguid1 | so ntfs wasnt needed |
| 16:21.50 | alfadir | FabParma: ok, i did not see your original question.. so it might not match at all. ;) |
| 16:21.51 | mtnman | mairus_: do you realize that the echoing 1 to /proc/... will not persist through next boot? |
| 16:21.53 | mysurfguid1 | besides fat is quicker |
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| 16:22.00 | mysurfguid1 | since it dont operate larger files |
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| 16:22.08 | yaccobb | mikeX: what is 'mkfs.vfat' ? |
| 16:22.13 | FabParma | alfadir: i was looking tha page |
| 16:22.13 | Dict_02x | descript_, do you know how to configure it ? |
| 16:22.15 | mysurfguid1 | I havent touched the bios either sine I put it in |
| 16:22.21 | mikeX | yaccobb, the command for making a fat filesystem |
| 16:22.24 | mysurfguid1 | its all odd dude, I got 1.2gb photos on there I need for work |
| 16:22.26 | descript_ | Dict_02x you want to build a router ? |
| 16:22.28 | mysurfguid1 | and deadline is today |
| 16:22.29 | alfadir | FabParma: and ? |
| 16:22.35 | descript_ | anyone can help me to fix my mmap problem |
| 16:22.37 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: k.. first of all you need to make the kernel see the hd in the forst place. paste dmesg in #lood (but just the parts about the harddrives, of course) |
| 16:22.45 | shingouz | !tell descript_ about mmap |
| 16:22.49 | mysurfguid1 | okay lemme get it |
| 16:22.50 | _joey | compile error: ctype.h fcntl.h are missing , which package I should install? kernel-source is installed |
| 16:22.50 | FabParma | alfadir: im slow :-) |
| 16:22.52 | alfadir | FabParma: echo '. /etc/bash_completion' >> ~/.bashrc was not what you was after ? |
| 16:22.53 | descript_ | ahh |
| 16:22.56 | descript_ | stop that |
| 16:22.59 | alfadir | FabParma: hehe.. ok |
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| 16:23.05 | descript_ | it doesn't work |
| 16:23.08 | mysurfguid1 | dude, no need in pasting |
| 16:23.14 | mysurfguid1 | I got about 20 lines of this: |
| 16:23.15 | descript_ | i have a median error |
| 16:23.16 | Dict_02x | descript_, look: I have an internet connection ( adsl ), I Plugged in the cable, I just need to configure the ips and the DNSs |
| 16:23.22 | descript_ | E: Error occured while processing xlibmesa3 (NewVersion1) |
| 16:23.23 | mysurfguid1 | VFS : busy inodes on changed media |
| 16:23.32 | marius_ | mtnman i'm guessing the kernels ip_forward module is broken on this system |
| 16:23.40 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: in #flood not here or debhelper is goind to kick you |
| 16:23.46 | mikeX | Dict_02x, look at /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:23.55 | mysurfguid1 | yes I know but is only one thing in dmesg |
| 16:24.00 | mtnman | marius_: lsmod to see if it is loaded. |
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| 16:24.04 | descript_ | plz |
| 16:24.04 | mysurfguid1 | and its VFS: busy inodes on changed media |
| 16:24.10 | mysurfguid1 | about 20-30 lines |
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| 16:24.11 | _joey | anyone ?:) |
| 16:24.16 | tarzeau | !anyone |
| 16:24.16 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 16:24.20 | tarzeau | !plz |
| 16:24.21 | dpkg | from memory, plz is german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel. L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
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| 16:24.31 | Dict_02x | mikeX, I do ifconfig eth0 <ipaddr> netmask <netmask> so to configure the ip info of the network interface |
| 16:24.36 | mtnman | marius_: or check the kernel config to see if the module is included in the kernel. |
| 16:24.41 | _joey | compile error: ctype.h fcntl.h are missing , which package I should install? kernel-source is installed |
| 16:24.49 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: i think you may have to do something with the filesystem, sounds to me that it is somehow borked |
| 16:24.49 | Dict_02x | mikeX, I just want to know how to add the gateway :) |
| 16:25.14 | mysurfguid1 | could it be broken headers?, after all I didnt touch it, the blocks are good since windows took it |
| 16:25.21 | mysurfguid1 | otherwise it wouldve had to run a scan |
| 16:25.34 | mikeX | Dict_02x, I don't know, 'man ifconfig'? you can put all that in /etc/network/interfaces though |
| 16:25.40 | alfadir | Dict_02x: route add default gw 198.XX.XX.XX netmask 255.XXX.XXX.XXX ? |
| 16:25.41 | _joey | add route and enable forwarding Dict_02x |
| 16:25.42 | mtnman | dict_02x: man interfaces is your friend (you'll be editing /etc/network/interfaces) |
| 16:25.47 | mysurfguid1 | ive got 7 boxes here, all running debian and no windows |
| 16:25.48 | Dict_02x | alfadir, tried that |
| 16:25.50 | mysurfguid1 | I cannot try it here |
| 16:25.53 | mysurfguid1 | and work is deadline today |
| 16:25.54 | mysurfguid1 | lol |
| 16:25.55 | mikeX | Dict_02x, or 'apt-get install etherconf' |
| 16:25.58 | alfadir | Dict_02x: and what happend ? |
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| 16:26.12 | alfadir | Dict_02x: route gives you the routes.. |
| 16:26.16 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: no idea really, i do not screw with wondows at all either. dosfstools may have something that would let you do a fsck on the hd |
| 16:26.25 | marius_ | mtnman that should be called just ip_forward right ? |
| 16:26.29 | mysurfguid1 | I dont know man its all messed up |
| 16:26.36 | Dict_02x | alfadir, and it says Network Unreachable |
| 16:26.40 | mtnman | marius_: yes, iirc. |
| 16:26.41 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, fsck.vfat |
| 16:26.47 | FabParma | alfadir: I tried the command. Now I have to re-login. i will tell You the results |
| 16:27.04 | mysurfguid1 | fsck vfat dev/hdc ? |
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| 16:27.18 | Dict_02x | alfadir, I connfigured it fine in Ubuntu, but now in deb, I am a mess :) |
| 16:27.21 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: fsck.vfat /dev/hdc |
| 16:27.25 | alfadir | Dict_02x: you need to have the gw in the same network as you have your computer (same ip range) |
| 16:27.36 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: do you have anything you need on the hd? |
| 16:27.39 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, supposing you have dosfstools installed |
| 16:27.44 | mysurfguid1 | yes 1.2 GB of images |
| 16:27.45 | Dict_02x | alfadir, I know that,, I know the numbers, I just do not know how to configure it |
| 16:27.48 | mysurfguid1 | itsfor work |
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| 16:28.00 | marius_ | mtnman is there a way to see if it might be staticaly in the kernel ? |
| 16:28.02 | alfadir | Dict_02x: hehe but once it is working you should realy set it up in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:28.08 | mysurfguid1 | yes its install mikx |
| 16:28.08 | mwelsh | i am running sarge and i'm currently using a CRT monitor, and about to switch to an LCD. do i have to do any configuration first? |
| 16:28.12 | mysurfguid1 | mikeX* |
| 16:28.17 | Dict_02x | alfadir, once what is working? |
| 16:28.17 | mtnman | dict_02x: man interfaces is your friend (you'll be editing /etc/network/interfaces) |
| 16:28.26 | mysurfguid1 | missing parameters on fsck vfat /dev/hdc |
| 16:28.34 | alfadir | Dict_02x: the network |
| 16:28.38 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: /msg dpkg nicktab <--- helps a bit wiht the nicks |
| 16:28.43 | mtnman | marius_: check your kernel config in /boot |
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| 16:28.51 | mysurfguid1 | oh |
| 16:28.57 | mikeX | mwelsh, maybe you 'll have to reconfigure X server, but you can do it after you change the monitor |
| 16:28.59 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: man fsck i guess :p |
| 16:29.08 | Dict_02x | alfadir, ok... now... I will make it simple... just answer :) |
| 16:29.10 | mysurfguid1 | oh cool thanks man |
| 16:29.17 | marius_ | mtnman do you know what option in the config that whould ba ? |
| 16:29.22 | Dict_02x | ** How I set up my gateway ?? with the route command ?? |
| 16:29.24 | marius_ | s/a/e |
| 16:29.35 | mwelsh | mikeX: so if i just switch the monitors while the computer is on, I shouldnt have any problems? |
| 16:29.44 | mysurfguid1 | I tried fsck vfat -a /dev/hdc shingouz |
| 16:29.50 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, well it's fsck.vfat |
| 16:30.07 | alfadir | Dict_02x: so you are building a gateway ? or you just want to access your gateway ? |
| 16:30.21 | Dict_02x | alfadir, I just want to access the gateway |
| 16:30.24 | mikeX | mwelsh, well I can't guarantee that, but I can't think of a serious problem |
| 16:30.24 | Nielsen | Dict_02x: route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
| 16:30.31 | mwelsh | ok, thanks |
| 16:30.44 | mysurfguid1 | I do fsck vfat -p /dev/hdc for automatic repair |
| 16:30.46 | alfadir | Dict_02x: ifconfig eth0 IP netmask MASK |
| 16:30.47 | mtnman | dict_02x: yes, route will do it as a one-shot deal. editing your interfaces file will do it each time you bring up your network. |
| 16:30.47 | mikeX | mwelsh, if you have problems, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:30.48 | mysurfguid1 | missing param |
| 16:30.54 | mysurfguid1 | I do fsck vfat -a /dev/hdc |
| 16:30.56 | mysurfguid1 | missing param |
| 16:31.00 | mysurfguid1 | weird |
| 16:31.02 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, fsck.vfat |
| 16:31.03 | Dict_02x | Nielsen, ok.. that is how you set it ok... I did that :) |
| 16:31.06 | alfadir | Dict_02x: route add default gw IPGATEWAY netmask MASK |
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| 16:31.12 | Dict_02x | alfadir, I did that too |
| 16:31.23 | alfadir | Dict_02x: ping IPGATEWAY |
| 16:31.25 | mtnman | dict_02x: i've suggested twice that you read man interfaces. you will find answers there. |
| 16:31.28 | mysurfguid1 | it gives me a list of alternatives/params MikeX |
| 16:31.43 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, are you using the '.'? |
| 16:31.43 | Dict_02x | mtnman, I am not in linux dude |
| 16:31.57 | Dict_02x | ok... another question |
| 16:31.57 | alfadir | Dict_02x: ntnman is right.. try to read up on it.. otherwise yo'll never learn ;) |
| 16:32.14 | mysurfguid1 | period MikeX ? |
| 16:32.14 | mysurfguid1 | where would I put that? |
| 16:32.14 | Dict_02x | alfadir, when I boot up to debian, I will |
| 16:32.14 | alfadir | Dict_02x: can you ping the gateway ? |
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| 16:32.37 | mysurfguid1 | I do fsck vfat -a /dev/hdc |
| 16:32.37 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, yes the command is 'fsck.vfat' verbatim |
| 16:32.37 | mysurfguid1 | oh the period t here, no sorry I didnt |
| 16:32.37 | mtnman | dict_02x: what do you mean you're "not in linux"? |
| 16:32.37 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, not 'fsck vfat' |
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| 16:33.00 | mikeX | mtnman, he is on win box |
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| 16:33.00 | Dict_02x | mtnman, I am connected through a Micro$Loth Windows machine.... |
| 16:33.00 | mysurfguid1 | okay now I got FAT32 no medium found |
| 16:33.06 | mysurfguid1 | it recognizes it as a cdrom for some reason |
| 16:33.08 | mysurfguid1 | I dont get it |
| 16:33.08 | Michel_HQB | hello |
| 16:33.15 | mtnman | dict_02x: if you are ssh'd into a linux box you have full access to its documentation. |
| 16:33.15 | mysurfguid1 | I did fsck.vfat -a /dev/hdc |
| 16:33.17 | Dict_02x | alfadir, ok... I can handle the ip and gw stuff... now.. the DNS |
| 16:33.22 | ertemplin | does anyone know if the netinstall actually works? |
| 16:33.24 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, you've totally confused me.. what's your problem? |
| 16:33.34 | mysurfguid1 | problem is that I cannot get the fat32 disk mounted |
| 16:33.42 | mysurfguid1 | it recognizes it as a cdrom for 1 |
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| 16:33.48 | Dict_02x | mtnman, I am not using putty here :) i am in my laptop ( dual boot ) |
| 16:33.49 | alfadir | Dict_02x: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 16:33.49 | mysurfguid1 | and it gives me inode error on fsck -l option |
| 16:33.54 | Dict_02x | alfadir, it is not there |
| 16:34.06 | mysurfguid1 | VFS: busy inodes on changed media |
| 16:34.09 | mysurfguid1 | sorry that is dmesg |
| 16:34.11 | mtnman | dict_02x: i don't follow you. are you configuring a debian system? |
| 16:34.11 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, you should probably be doing /dev/hdc1 or something |
| 16:34.13 | mysurfguid1 | not fsck -l option |
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| 16:34.35 | Michel_HQB | @ertemplin netinstall with apt-sources or what? |
| 16:34.37 | alfadir | Dict_02x: just create it with a line : nameserver IPDNS |
| 16:34.42 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, don't you have any partitions on the disk? I don't think fat can reside on a partitionless disk anyway |
| 16:34.58 | mysurfguid1 | no there is and must be a partition, it works fine on a MS box |
| 16:35.01 | Dict_02x | mtnman, I am connected with my adsl connection through win because I have it configured it in win, when I know how to configure it, I switch to debian, because I do not have internet in the debian system configured.. understand ? |
| 16:35.05 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, try /dev/hdc1 |
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| 16:35.06 | alfadir | Dict_02x: you'd probably be better off if you could set up DHPC on you router |
| 16:35.23 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, fdisk -l /dev/hdc |
| 16:35.28 | Dict_02x | alfadir, I dont have this kind of oportunity, I am not the boss |
| 16:35.31 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, to see the partitions on the device |
| 16:35.36 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: yea, that is a good one. the partition number too of course |
| 16:35.39 | mysurfguid1 | gives me nada mikex |
| 16:35.44 | Dict_02x | alfadir, so,... if the file /etc/resolv.conf does not exists, is it normal ? |
| 16:35.52 | mtnman | dict_02x: in that case, what is stopping you from booting debian, reading man interfaces, and editing /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 16:35.56 | mysurfguid1 | wait |
| 16:35.57 | mysurfguid1 | damn |
| 16:36.03 | shingouz | mysurfguid1: can you paste fdisk -l /dev/hdc in #flood? |
| 16:36.06 | ertemplin | ertemplin@Michel HOB am I answering your question, I have modem and network. |
| 16:36.07 | mysurfguid1 | I did hdd instead and got FAT32 , /dev/hdd1 |
| 16:36.08 | Michel_HQB | Has anybody fixed the problem with the msn-protokoll using kopete? (kde 3.4) |
| 16:36.13 | mysurfguid1 | I think I can get it to work |
| 16:36.17 | shingouz | :) |
| 16:36.17 | mysurfguid1 | I just need to get fstab fixed |
| 16:36.22 | mysurfguid1 | gimme a sec :) you rock guys |
| 16:36.26 | Dict_02x | mtnman, I did not know the /etc/network/interfaces .... now I know |
| 16:36.28 | shingouz | ty |
| 16:36.43 | shingouz | mikeX: hear that? we roxx0r :p |
| 16:36.51 | Dict_02x | mtnman, so, when I boot up to debian... what should I do... read the manual for /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 16:36.52 | alfadir | Dict_02x: hmm not sure, think it should have been created in the installation.. you can setup network when installing you know |
| 16:36.52 | mtnman | dict_02x: yes, you know now that i've told you about four times. |
| 16:36.55 | mysurfguid1 | holy crap |
| 16:36.56 | mikeX | Dict_02x, an easier (maybe) alternative is the package etherconf |
| 16:36.57 | mysurfguid1 | I got it to work |
| 16:37.02 | mysurfguid1 | :) thanks guys |
| 16:37.03 | shingouz | wtg mysurfguid1 |
| 16:37.06 | mikeX | shingouz, : ) |
| 16:37.07 | shingouz | youre welcome |
| 16:37.12 | mysurfguid1 | it was hdd1 instead of hdc |
| 16:37.14 | mtnman | dict_02x: yes, i have suggested that several times. |
| 16:37.14 | mysurfguid1 | and hdc1 |
| 16:37.16 | mysurfguid1 | im sucha clutz |
| 16:37.17 | ertemplin | I have a modem, and network internet |
| 16:37.20 | mikeX | mysurfguid1, hehe |
| 16:37.26 | Dict_02x | mtnman, thanks :) it was just a missunderstanding |
| 16:37.28 | mysurfguid1 | ty both , this saves m y ass at work |
| 16:37.31 | mysurfguid1 | deadline is today |
| 16:37.32 | mysurfguid1 | hehe |
| 16:37.50 | shingouz | hehe.. off to work you go then, we'll be here later on too |
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| 16:37.54 | Dict_02x | mtnman, what command should I type? # man interfaces ?? |
| 16:37.55 | mtnman | dict_02x: more like a non-understanding. for dns, you'll edit /etc/resolv.conf. |
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| 16:38.05 | mysurfguid1 | laters guys, and ty once again |
| 16:38.05 | Michel_HQB | @ertemplin somthing goes wqrong with my xchat |
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| 16:38.10 | Michel_HQB | one moment please |
| 16:38.21 | mikeX | Dict_02x, did you skip network configuration during installation? |
| 16:38.22 | mtnman | dict_02x: yes, that is exactly what i suggested earlier (man interfaces) |
| 16:38.29 | Dict_02x | mtnman, I have configured it before, I am just confused with the 'network unreachable' error |
| 16:38.35 | alfadir | mtnman: is there a command to start the network conf that is in the installation ? never had to but maybe that is easier ? |
| 16:38.40 | Dict_02x | mikex, yes.. because at home I do not have adsl |
| 16:38.49 | mtnman | alfadir: don't know. |
| 16:38.50 | ertemplin | @Michel_HOB how do you make your name yellow |
| 16:38.55 | mikeX | Dict_02x, the 'command' is 'apt-get install etherconf' |
| 16:38.56 | mwelsh | mikeX, thanks, it seems to be working fine |
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| 16:39.00 | Dict_02x | mtnman, ok, now I will boot to debian and try to configure it, .... I will come here again... just to test |
| 16:39.05 | shingouz | ertemplin: like this |
| 16:39.07 | mikeX | mwelsh, ok then |
| 16:39.13 | Dict_02x | mikeX, thanks mike |
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| 16:39.25 | ertemplin | shingouz; how |
| 16:39.26 | Dict_02x | so guys... see you in a moment... and BIG thanks |
| 16:39.33 | mikeX | Dict_02x, you are welcome |
| 16:39.34 | ertemplin | shingouz:how |
| 16:39.49 | shingouz | ertemplin: by mentioning the name on irc, it is just a highlight |
| 16:39.50 | Michel_HQB | my name yellow |
| 16:39.51 | Michel_HQB | lool |
| 16:39.57 | mikeX | Michel_HQB, |
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| 16:40.11 | shingouz | ertemplin: didnt your nick go yellow or something just now? |
| 16:40.17 | ertemplin | shingouz: hi |
| 16:40.19 | HansZ | Hm.. I've got a external USB HDD, How to access it? |
| 16:40.30 | shingouz | HansZ: usb-storage |
| 16:40.31 | Michel_HQB | mikeX???? whats up |
| 16:40.31 | ertemplin | let me read help |
| 16:40.40 | HansZ | shingouz: /dev/usb-storage ? |
| 16:40.43 | mtnman | hansz: have you read the usb howto at tldp.org? |
| 16:40.46 | shingouz | !usb storage |
| 16:40.51 | HansZ | mtnman: Negative |
| 16:40.52 | shingouz | !usb-storage |
| 16:40.52 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 16:40.57 | shingouz | HansZ: there |
| 16:41.01 | HansZ | thanks |
| 16:41.03 | mtnman | hansz: it would be a good place to start. |
| 16:41.03 | shingouz | np |
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| 16:41.28 | mikeX | Michel_HQB, nothing, just wanted to highlight your nick : P |
| 16:41.40 | Michel_HQB | lol |
| 16:41.45 | shingouz | n00bs... |
| 16:42.02 | Michel_HQB | is my colour wrong or what's up here? |
| 16:42.13 | mikeX | Michel_HQB, colors can be changed in Xchat |
| 16:42.13 | furrywolf | the problem with that factoid is that all my usb thingies appear in random order, so what's sda1 might be sdc1 later that day. :) |
| 16:42.33 | shingouz | Michel_HQB: nothing is wrong, he just had a problem with nick highlighting i guess |
| 16:42.42 | Michel_HQB | i search for it |
| 16:43.20 | Michel_HQB | mmh |
| 16:43.30 | Michel_HQB | where i change the colour? rofl |
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| 16:43.50 | mikeX | Michel_HQB, preferences -> colors i guess |
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| 16:45.06 | Michel_HQB | mikeX:sry i am german i search and search and search |
| 16:45.26 | mikeX | Michel_HQB, no problem, I'm greek, I search too : P |
| 16:45.35 | shingouz | Michel_HQB: what client you have? |
| 16:45.48 | Michel_HQB | xchat |
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| 16:46.12 | JerJer[mobile] | is there a simple way to upgrade Sarge to Linux-2.6? or should I just re-install? |
| 16:46.14 | HansZ | Ok, I can access the external HDD, however the partition is 'NTFS' |
| 16:46.26 | mikeX | JerJer[mobile], apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2 |
| 16:46.27 | HansZ | Is it possible to access NTFS partitions? |
| 16:46.37 | Michel_HQB | shingouz: you know where to change my nick-colour |
| 16:46.40 | mikeX | JerJer[mobile], then reboot and select the new kernel |
| 16:46.40 | chealer | !tell HansZ about ntfs |
| 16:46.41 | JerJer[mobile] | mikeX: kick ass - thanks |
| 16:46.47 | mikeX | HansZ, readonly |
| 16:46.47 | shingouz | looking... |
| 16:46.55 | Michel_HQB | k |
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| 16:47.27 | JerJer[mobile] | couldn't find page kernel-image-2.6.8-2 |
| 16:47.35 | JerJer[mobile] | page == package |
| 16:48.01 | JerJer[mobile] | how does one find a list of available packages to download? |
| 16:48.11 | shingouz | the ancient version of xchat i have here does not have a setting for the highlights, they are on all the time. i'll fire up a newer version so i can check that out, Michel_HQB |
| 16:48.13 | mikeX | JerJer[mobile], sorry append a -386 or -686 |
| 16:48.38 | mtnman | jerjer: apt-get install aptitude and run aptitude. |
| 16:48.39 | JerJer[mobile] | ahh cool - thanks |
| 16:48.50 | Michel_HQB | ok thx shingouz |
| 16:48.56 | JerJer[mobile] | i presume kernel-source-X will get me the source ? |
| 16:48.56 | mikeX | JerJer[mobile], apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 16:49.09 | Michel_HQB | my text-colour is ok or not? |
| 16:49.18 | mikeX | JerJer[mobile], yes, also install kernel-package for a 'a la debian compile' |
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| 16:50.34 | JerJer[mobile] | i can do it manually - i've got to add some DVB drivers to the kernel anyway |
| 16:51.03 | jim | JerJer[mobile]: look into kernel-package and its content, make-kpkg |
| 16:51.18 | fhffhqvb | !prize Xinux |
| 16:51.26 | Xinux | yay :d |
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| 16:51.49 | mikeX | JerJer[mobile], it's all manual, you just create a debian package out of it for easy installation/removal |
| 16:52.03 | kadir | hiiiiiiii allllllllllllllll |
| 16:52.26 | JerJer[mobile] | mikeX: ahh ok - not sure i'm gonna get that hardcore today, but will prolly have to in the future |
| 16:52.28 | mikeX | JerJer[mobile], only part you change is 'make isntall' |
| 16:52.59 | shingouz | Michel_HQB: xchat 2.4.1 doesnt seem to have such a setting either for some reason, it jsut has the highlight on all the time |
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| 16:53.16 | Michel_HQB | i have xchat 2.4.3 |
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| 16:53.56 | mikeX | Michel_HQB, look at 'strip mIRC colors' |
| 16:54.04 | shingouz | Michel_HQB: so what you are saying is that your nick is always the same color as all the rest? |
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| 16:54.33 | Michel_HQB | no mine is grey and the others or coloured |
| 16:54.45 | mikeX | Michel_HQB, oh mine is too |
| 16:54.52 | jim | Michel_HQB: that's the default behavior |
| 16:54.55 | shingouz | Michel_HQB: try the strip mirc colors, maybe that helps? |
| 16:55.02 | Michel_HQB | mmh |
| 16:55.05 | HansZ | mIRC == crap |
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| 16:55.23 | jim | thank you for sharing :) |
| 16:55.27 | mikeX | Michel_HQB, |
| 16:55.30 | shingouz | Michel_HQB: is the nick of different color on this line than |
| 16:55.32 | shingouz | on this? |
| 16:55.52 | Michel_HQB | yes its different |
| 16:56.09 | ILF_ | hi. i got a process running (mp3gain), which hangs. can't kill it with ctrl+c, kill <pid> or kill -KILL <pid>. how can i stop it? |
| 16:56.11 | Michel_HQB | the first is red |
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| 16:56.18 | shingouz | Michel_HQB: the line is in red when your name is mentioned there? |
| 16:56.19 | Michel_HQB | the second is green |
| 16:56.20 | JerJer[mobile] | kill -9 <pid> |
| 16:56.29 | shingouz | in that case it works, Michel_HQB |
| 16:56.41 | jim | that';s also default behavior |
| 16:56.50 | ILF_ | JerJer[mobile]: didn't work either |
| 16:56.50 | JerJer[mobile] | ok so how does one configure grub with debian? |
| 16:56.57 | Michel_HQB | lol and what is the problem now |
| 16:57.04 | Michel_HQB | that my nick is yellow or what |
| 16:57.05 | ILF_ | JerJer[mobile]: vi /bot/grub/menu.list |
| 16:57.12 | shingouz | Michel_HQB: huh? :) |
| 16:57.15 | ILF_ | */boot |
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| 16:57.24 | Michel_HQB | rofl |
| 16:57.37 | Michel_HQB | what colour has my text? |
| 16:57.38 | shingouz | maybe you just need some caffeine Michel_HQB |
| 16:57.41 | jim | JerJer[mobile]: you could just edit the menu.lst or whatever file you named in your install of grub |
| 16:57.44 | shingouz | depends on the client |
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| 16:57.49 | JerJer[mobile] | why is this so different than the grub i have used before ? strange |
| 16:57.55 | ILF_ | Michel_HQB: read irssi.org |
| 16:58.20 | jim | JerJer[mobile]: doesn't have to be |
| 16:58.22 | ld-xorg | Hi to all... anyone uses debblue theme for grub? I don't any working link to download... |
| 16:58.51 | HansZ | Er.. how to mount remote windows shares? |
| 16:58.52 | ILF_ | ld-xorg: ask in #grub ? |
| 16:59.00 | jim | theming a boot loader? doesn't make sense... I use it to -boot linux- |
| 16:59.20 | ld-xorg | ILF_: sure.. |
| 16:59.22 | Michel_HQB | mmh |
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| 16:59.52 | ld-xorg | jim: just a simple image.. to have a nice background |
| 17:00.53 | JerJer[mobile] | so how do i get ncurses-devel ? |
| 17:01.00 | jim | usually when you boot you get plain text until it comes up into X... if you want image at boot, I guess you have to arrange for it to not be plain text |
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| 17:01.17 | jim | JerJer[mobile]: find the package name, install |
| 17:01.28 | Michel_HQB | that's all folks...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 17:01.30 | JerJer[mobile] | jim: how? |
| 17:01.39 | jim | packages.debian.org |
| 17:01.39 | JerJer[mobile] | how do i find the package name? |
| 17:01.43 | jim | packages.debian.org |
| 17:01.50 | ld-xorg | jim: no problem how to set (there's many howto on the net) I don't find that image |
| 17:01.51 | JerJer[mobile] | thank you |
| 17:02.19 | jim | there are other ways... but that's the one I use |
| 17:02.36 | takatumi | what happened to http://debblue.debian.net/ wtf is Oyunpiyat? |
| 17:02.55 | ld-xorg | takatumi: exatly same thought :) |
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| 17:03.19 | takatumi | ld-xorg: used to be functional, try http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/debblue/ |
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| 17:04.26 | ld-xorg | takatumi: very slow, this url seems to have some problems |
| 17:04.49 | shingouz | JerJer[mobile]: libncurses5-dev is one i think. apt-cache search |
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| 17:05.44 | michel_HQB | i removed xchat and installed it again |
| 17:06.01 | michel_HQB | am i yellow??? |
| 17:06.06 | michel_HQB | rofl |
| 17:06.11 | furrywolf | lol |
| 17:06.29 | shingouz | michel_HQB: the settings on your client have nothing to do with what color you show up here |
| 17:06.32 | Seb | michel_HQB: nah you're dull. THat's cause you're not using irssi |
| 17:06.48 | michel_HQB | what dull means? |
| 17:07.01 | Seb | !dict dull |
| 17:07.02 | shingouz | michel_HQB: seb is teasing ouy |
| 17:07.04 | dpkg | Dictionary 'dull' (1 of 22): . Dull \Dull\, a. [Compar. Duller; superl. Dullest.] [AS. dol foolish; akin to gedwelan to err, D. dol mad, dwalen to wander, err, G. toll mad, Goth. dwals foolish, stupid, cf. Gr. ? turbid, troubled, Skr. dhvr to cause to fall. Cf. Dolt, Dwale, Dwell, Fraud.] 1. Slow of understanding; wanting readiness of apprehension; stupid; doltish; blockish. ``Dull at classical learning.'' --Thackeray.. |
| 17:07.06 | shingouz | you even |
| 17:07.12 | Seb | heh |
| 17:07.49 | Seb | slow morning in here, huh ? |
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| 17:08.21 | shingouz | Seb: what d you mean with morning, it is about eight in the evening rigth now :p |
| 17:08.25 | Seb | heheheh |
| 17:08.54 | Seb | shingouz: germany/poland time zone ? |
| 17:08.59 | michel_HQB | i try a german debian irc, so that is easier for me to understand. and when it ifts i come back.... :-) |
| 17:09.04 | shingouz | something like that |
| 17:09.09 | Seb | k |
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| 17:09.47 | Seb | michel_HQB: #debian-de ? |
| 17:09.51 | Seb | too late |
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| 17:12.18 | shingouz | i fscking hate this, i need to make a new kernel and with the setup i have it means i will be sitting here patching the source for the next three hours :( |
| 17:12.19 | cannikan | hello. What is the command to add a command to the init.d subdirectory? there is a command that will set up all the run-levels for a command, but I can't for the life of me remember what that command is? |
| 17:12.28 | shingouz | update-rc.d |
| 17:12.36 | caphuso | cannikan: ln, update-rc.d, rcconf, ... |
| 17:12.42 | cannikan | !! THANK YOU !! |
| 17:12.49 | cannikan | that was driving me crazy. |
| 17:12.52 | shingouz | we rock ;) |
| 17:13.02 | cannikan | thank you so much!! |
| 17:13.04 | saabins | how to use "tee" in scripts? #!/bin/sh cat blah-unknown | tee ... |
| 17:13.26 | caphuso | saabins: just like you would use it in an interactive shell |
| 17:15.39 | saabins | caphuso: script is not run in an interactive shell |
| 17:16.20 | Seb | saabins: that doesn't change anything, is what caphuso was precisely pointing out |
| 17:16.50 | Seb | saabins: how about you state a *problem* ? |
| 17:20.12 | shingouz | factoid 'rtlinux' has an incorrect URL, instead of www.rtliux.org it should be www.fsmlabs.com.... /me is not going to screw with the bot at this level yet |
| 17:20.54 | amorphix | hi guys, which folder should i expect my kernel to be in /usr/src/linux? |
| 17:21.06 | caphuso | amorphix: which one did you extract it to? |
| 17:21.15 | shingouz | amorphix: after the compile? |
| 17:21.50 | shingouz | (wtf do people have to call directories folders) |
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| 17:22.03 | timo | !rtlinux =~ s/www.rtliux.org/www.fsmlabs.com/ |
| 17:22.03 | dpkg | OK, timo |
| 17:22.04 | nn | shingouz: Windows. |
| 17:22.21 | shingouz | timo: thanks |
| 17:22.25 | saabins | Seb: something must be done as someprogram cat's some file | /myscript -a 1 -b 2 --I wanna capture content of what is being fed i.e. "some file" in a script |
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| 17:23.13 | Seb | saabins: cat foo | tee yourLog | /myscript ... ? |
| 17:24.10 | saabins | Seb: it can be "cat" it can be anything "cat foo?????? | tee yourLog | /myscript ... " |
| 17:24.26 | Seb | saabins: so ? |
| 17:24.33 | saabins | I want to incorporate in myscript |
| 17:24.42 | saabins | no shell involved |
| 17:24.59 | timo | shingouz, no problem |
| 17:25.06 | saabins | the "tee" |
| 17:25.10 | timo | you seem to be correct |
| 17:25.53 | jim | saabins: no shell? so what interpreter are you using? |
| 17:26.06 | saabins | jim "!#/bin/sh |
| 17:26.11 | Seb | jim: I think I know where he's going... |
| 17:26.13 | jim | that's a shell. |
| 17:26.15 | amorphix | sorry back |
| 17:26.38 | geoff__ | Which is the best debian channel to ask about rebuilding debian-installer? I'm stuck trying to build a new CD using a different kernel . . . . |
| 17:26.46 | amorphix | caphuso: I'm following a howto to install a wacom driver module, i did a stock update of my kernel and fetched the headers then |
| 17:26.56 | amorphix | (to shingouz too) |
| 17:27.14 | nn | whoa |
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| 17:27.16 | saabins | sorry Seb, maybe I am not explaining right, I am sorry for that. I want to capture what is being sent to "myscript -a abc -b abc" |
| 17:27.27 | nn | about dropped my passwd in the room out of habbit of unlocking screen |
| 17:27.30 | amorphix | the howto says to go to /usr/src/2.6.11 but i dont have such a folder |
| 17:27.32 | jim | geoff__: there is #debian-boot, but they'll just tell you to read the docs... look at this: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt |
| 17:27.33 | Seb | saabins: well you could cat /dev/stdin > yourLog at the beginning of your script on linux |
| 17:27.36 | saabins | from inside myscript |
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| 17:27.42 | nn | can i make screen auto-lock after X minutes of no typing? |
| 17:27.49 | shingouz | amorphix: what kernel source you have? |
| 17:27.52 | Seb | saabins: but that is not very portable |
| 17:27.53 | saabins | Seb let me try that! |
| 17:28.00 | saabins | Seb why? |
| 17:28.03 | caphuso | amorphix: then you should have a /usr/src/kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 17:28.16 | Seb | saabins: cause /dev/stdin doesn't exist on all *NIXes |
| 17:28.28 | geoff__ | jim: Yeah, have been following that. Managed to get all the way to getting initrd.gz and such in the build/tmp directory, but I can't manage to get it to put an ISO in dest/, as the READMEs proclaim |
| 17:28.48 | saabins | Seb, exists on mine |
| 17:29.07 | Seb | saabins: can you at least read what I'm saying please ? |
| 17:29.11 | Seb | i said it'd work on linux |
| 17:29.18 | jim | geoff__: what kernel are you trying to put with d-i? |
| 17:29.21 | Seb | not on some other *NIXes |
| 17:29.32 | geoff__ | 2.6.11-1-686-smp |
| 17:29.46 | saabins | Seb, exec ? |
| 17:29.55 | Seb | saabins: what ? |
| 17:29.57 | jim | is the 686-smp part required? |
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| 17:30.14 | amorphix | shingouz: kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 17:30.17 | jim | or would 386 work? |
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| 17:30.33 | amorphix | caphuso: yes i have that |
| 17:30.37 | Epilog | having some questions regarding some debian available apps |
| 17:30.49 | amorphix | caphuso: so thats the directory i should be using? |
| 17:30.56 | Epilog | need some web interface to my imap mail from my email server |
| 17:30.56 | amorphix | not linux symblink? |
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| 17:30.59 | caphuso | amorphix: it should be |
| 17:31.00 | geoff__ | jim: Prolly not. Just happened to be what I had installed, and the first requirement in the instructions is to install a kernel that matches your requirements. My big requirement is 2.6.11 |
| 17:31.08 | Seb | Epilog: horde/imp |
| 17:31.11 | amorphix | thanks |
| 17:31.13 | Epilog | what could I choose? |
| 17:31.16 | Seb | Epilog: or squirrelmail |
| 17:31.21 | mtnman | dpkg-reconfigure exim4 does not bring me to the config dialog, even though i've set debconf to display all questions. how can i rerun the config dialog for exim4? |
| 17:31.24 | geoff__ | jim: I take it you're thinking I should start over with -386? |
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| 17:31.29 | Seb | Epilog: it's featureful vs. easy to setup :] |
| 17:31.30 | caphuso | mtnman: exim4-config, not exim4 |
| 17:31.43 | shingouz | i have a usb soundcard running on a seriously custom 2.6.9, any hints how to get the soundcard not to get dropouts with VoIP? some realtime patches maybe but is there some howto on this? |
| 17:32.01 | Epilog | Seb: ok, been browsing a little and found some apps like phpgroupware and egroupware |
| 17:32.02 | jim | geoff__: well... not necessarily... BUT... if you did, then you could put up the resulting images so others can use |
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| 17:32.08 | mtnman | caphuso: okay, thanks. unfortunately, man exim4-config doesn't exist! |
| 17:32.12 | geoff__ | jim: *chuckle* |
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| 17:32.18 | caphuso | mtnman: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 17:32.28 | Epilog | Seb: i would also like a calendar type and maybe some contacts |
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| 17:32.47 | Epilog | Seb: but I would like to merge and update or even use my kde contacts |
| 17:32.48 | geoff__ | jim: My net provider would kill me. Hmmm, maybe time to learn how to source a bittorrent. ;-) |
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| 17:33.02 | mtnman | caphuso: yeah, i'd just typed that into the shell. |
| 17:33.03 | jim | geoff__: had a request from a guy who had sata drive |
| 17:33.05 | Seb | Epilog: go with horde |
| 17:33.16 | jim | I wonder if markybob would be willing to host it |
| 17:33.26 | Seb | Epilog: check their website now that I've given you the name, it'll have more info than I do |
| 17:33.31 | geoff__ | qui est-ce 'markybob'? |
| 17:33.42 | Seb | geoff__: sais pas |
| 17:34.17 | Epilog | Seb: ok, thk U very much |
| 17:34.23 | jim | he's been here from time to time |
| 17:34.25 | geoff__ | jim: That's precisely my problem. :-) |
| 17:34.59 | geoff__ | Bought a SATA-only setup, went to install Sarge, and went |
| 17:35.03 | geoff__ | "oops" |
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| 17:35.41 | toresbe | Hmm, I've googled etc, is there a way to add a footer to all ~user pages with Apache? |
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| 17:35.57 | jim | it'd be good to get i386 kernel images up then |
| 17:35.58 | mindamp | how can i execute a bash script upon a cups print? |
| 17:36.05 | mindamp | or when a certain directory is accessed? |
| 17:36.09 | mrwick | hello.. I've got a powerbookG4 . .and the apmd seems to poweroff randomly. . help? |
| 17:36.15 | bbrazil | toresbe: proxy all requests to a php script that does that for you? |
| 17:36.24 | asg | toresbe: libapache-mod-layout |
| 17:36.28 | bbrazil | toresbe: you might need 2 apaches to do it (or a vhost setup) |
| 17:36.36 | toresbe | asg: *googles* |
| 17:36.36 | shingouz | mrwick: try #debian-ppc |
| 17:36.44 | mrwick | thx shingouz |
| 17:36.46 | asg | toresbe: don't google, apt-cache show libapache-mod-layout |
| 17:36.46 | michel_HQB | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.48 | _joey | how do I unpack .deb ? and the rebuild it again? I need to modify config slightly |
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| 17:37.17 | asg | _joey: either build one from a source deb or use ar(1) |
| 17:37.42 | geoff__ | jim: agreed. First things first . . . need to get this build to work. :-) |
| 17:37.49 | toresbe | asg: thanks |
| 17:37.50 | stew | _joey: /mdg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 17:37.52 | mindamp | anyone? |
| 17:37.54 | jono | would this run the crontab entry every 5 mins?: */5 * * * * foo.sh |
| 17:37.56 | asg | toresbe: you're welcome |
| 17:38.15 | asg | jono: because that's what '*/5' means |
| 17:38.19 | _joey | how do I build it from source ? is there a script ? |
| 17:38.30 | _joey | to asisst building .deb from .deb source ? |
| 17:38.31 | jono | asg, so it would then? |
| 17:38.40 | asg | jono: yes |
| 17:38.48 | jono | asg, thanks :) |
| 17:38.52 | stew | _joey: see my previous message |
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| 17:39.11 | asg | jono: man 5 crontab ; /<number |
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| 17:41.48 | jono | asg, thanks |
| 17:41.56 | asg | jono: you're welcome |
| 17:42.00 | mindamp | can anyone help me? |
| 17:42.13 | Epilog | after checking some websites I still have a question. egroupware, phpgroupware or horde? |
| 17:42.23 | micha_ | phpgroupware :) |
| 17:42.26 | zumbi | mindamp, maybe, if you ask a question |
| 17:42.42 | micha_ | still working for me for over a year, only the php5 support is bad |
| 17:43.06 | mindamp | how can i execute a bash script upon a cups print? |
| 17:43.06 | mindamp | or upon directory read? |
| 17:43.16 | asg | mindamp: probably not without hacking coreutils and cups (maybe famd perhaps or some file alteration monitor type thing.) |
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| 17:43.31 | mindamp | can u point me to a doc? |
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| 17:43.41 | asg | mindamp: on the cups print issue, perhaps have a process watching the print logs and trigger your script on certain actions. |
| 17:43.51 | mindamp | sure |
| 17:43.54 | mindamp | thats what i was thinking |
| 17:43.59 | mindamp | make it watch the directory... |
| 17:44.00 | sm | hi all.. isn't there a way I can force all files created in a directory to use the dir's group ? |
| 17:44.05 | asg | mindamp: swatch is useful. |
| 17:44.24 | asg | sm: setgid |
| 17:44.33 | sm | is that chmod g+s ? |
| 17:44.49 | asg | !wikifaq sm permissions |
| 17:44.50 | dpkg | sm: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:44.59 | sm | thank you |
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| 17:45.16 | Epilog | micha_: what I want is a web based platform to read my imap mail from my server |
| 17:45.40 | asg | sm: you'll also probably have to use an appropriate umask to make sure the rwx perms are right also |
| 17:45.44 | Epilog | micha_: and maybe read my contacts and see events/calendar |
| 17:45.49 | priest | is there any open source SIP (VoIP) server? |
| 17:45.52 | micha_ | this is tha same as i do since over a year :) for me groupware works perfectly :) |
| 17:46.04 | Supaplex | priest: asterisk |
| 17:46.13 | priest | Supaplex: is it in debian? |
| 17:46.14 | asg | Epilog: squirrelmail supports such functionaltiy. |
| 17:46.20 | micha_ | phpgroupware contains functions to import your contacts from outlook and other mail clients |
| 17:46.24 | Supaplex | priest: apt-cache search asterisk and find out |
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| 17:46.40 | iLLf8d | good morning all |
| 17:46.52 | micha_ | good morning :) |
| 17:46.53 | Supaplex | priest: I highly suggest CVS head over the deb, if you plan on mitigating bugs. |
| 17:47.05 | priest | Supaplex: is H.323 the same as SIP? |
| 17:47.11 | Supaplex | priest: no |
| 17:47.13 | tarzeau | !seen abrotman |
| 17:47.14 | dpkg | abrotman <~abrotman@pcp01413775pcs.potshe01.pa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 3h 41m 18s ago, saying: 'or make a custom d-i with a 2.6.11 ?'. |
| 17:47.20 | tarzeau | Supaplex: you play games? |
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| 17:47.29 | outplanet | can someone help me please |
| 17:47.31 | Supaplex | tarzeau: what gives it away? |
| 17:47.35 | asg | !tell outplanet about ask |
| 17:47.35 | outplanet | why someone can't ping me |
| 17:47.41 | tarzeau | Supaplex: http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 17:47.47 | outplanet | i dont have any firewall |
| 17:47.56 | Xinux | eww |
| 17:47.56 | asg | outplanet: you have disabled icmp responses |
| 17:47.57 | outplanet | and my computer is directly to the internet |
| 17:47.58 | Xinux | install a firewall |
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| 17:48.04 | tarzeau | Xinux: crap |
| 17:48.04 | iLLf8d | can anyone recommend a good newsgroup reader, I installed pam, I have never tried to do anything complex in newsgroups and I dunno which features are available or essential is this newsreader any good? |
| 17:48.06 | asg | outplanet: or your isp is blocking pings |
| 17:48.08 | tarzeau | outplanet: same here. |
| 17:48.16 | outplanet | i use charter |
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| 17:48.26 | outplanet | did charter blocks ping? |
| 17:48.30 | Xinux | outplanet; same here |
| 17:48.35 | Xinux | i never had that problem |
| 17:48.39 | micha_ | iLLf8d i prefer the newsreader in opera :) |
| 17:48.42 | tarzeau | outplanet: never seen an isp to do that |
| 17:48.46 | outplanet | Xinux |
| 17:48.50 | Xinux | so i don |
| 17:48.50 | outplanet | can i ping you? |
| 17:48.57 | iLLf8d | micha_: is it worth installing opera for? |
| 17:49.04 | Xinux | * Ping reply from outplanet: 0.81 second(s) |
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| 17:49.31 | Epilog | micha_: is there any way to read/strore my contacts from kmail for instance? |
| 17:49.32 | outplanet | Xinux, this is not my ip |
| 17:49.34 | outplanet | lol |
| 17:49.38 | outplanet | i use charter |
| 17:49.44 | outplanet | and they can't ping me |
| 17:49.45 | Xinux | so do i |
| 17:49.51 | Xinux | i use charter |
| 17:49.52 | outplanet | Xinux what i have to do |
| 17:50.02 | Supaplex | outplanet: have you asked your isp if they are filtering icmp? |
| 17:50.03 | shingouz | outplanet: it doesn't matter if you can be pinged or now as long as you get full connectivity |
| 17:50.06 | iLLf8d | outplanet: you're just unpingable |
| 17:50.10 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 17:50.17 | outplanet | hhee |
| 17:50.25 | Xinux | thats bad tho |
| 17:50.31 | shingouz | no it is not |
| 17:50.32 | veleno | i have a divx file where audio is 0.05 seconds late. how can i re-sync it ? any mplayer switch ? any tool to re-encode the video ? |
| 17:50.42 | asg | outplanet: easy check, look at /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all (is it a 0 or a 1) |
| 17:51.40 | eightchar | oops. FS support not built into kernel, techsupport @ colo wants to reinstall, any quick way to remediate the problem w/o boot disk? |
| 17:51.58 | micha_ | iLLf8d, i havnt try it, but kmail can export to csv and phpgw can import csv :) |
| 17:52.18 | shingouz | eightchar: new kernel |
| 17:52.37 | outplanet | asg |
| 17:52.39 | outplanet | it's 1 |
| 17:52.51 | eightchar | shingouz: yes, was trying, forgot FS support..? |
| 17:52.52 | asg | outplanet: then set it to 0 |
| 17:53.12 | shingouz | eightchar: another new kernel with the correct stuff in it |
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| 17:53.58 | eightchar | hmm, wouldn't the kernel need to be compiled on the machine it's to be loaded on? |
| 17:54.08 | asg | eightchar: no |
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| 17:54.28 | shingouz | not necessarily. do the kernel whereever and just shoot it off to the machine it needs to be on |
| 17:54.39 | eightchar | can I still disable modules later to make mem footprint? |
| 17:54.39 | toresbe | Anyone have a starter's guide for BIND? |
| 17:54.47 | asg | toresbe: #dns |
| 17:54.51 | eightchar | less of a |
| 17:54.53 | eightchar | mem footprint |
| 17:54.55 | toresbe | asg: thanks again :) |
| 17:54.58 | asg | toresbe: though the O'Reilly book is worth the investment |
| 17:55.05 | asg | toresbe: also, bind-doc is a decent package with information |
| 17:55.06 | toresbe | asg: Really? |
| 17:55.10 | toresbe | asg: ok |
| 17:55.15 | shingouz | eightchar: modules that are not in the kernel do not take up ram, only hd space |
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| 17:55.20 | asg | toresbe: if you are going to run bind, yes, the book covers a great amount of info. |
| 17:55.34 | VoX | i just tried to cp my hda onto a new drive. i lilo'd the new drive, but when it boots(from the new drive) it starts to load the kernel, then fails with the error "unable to open console". where did i go wrong? |
| 17:55.35 | Dict02x | mtnman, hey |
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| 17:55.51 | asg | VoX: problems with /dev |
| 17:55.55 | eightchar | I'm suprised the install description would leave out FS support warnings @ http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html |
| 17:56.09 | VoX | asg: how so? |
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| 17:56.23 | asg | VoX: did the files get copied correctly? |
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| 17:56.39 | VoX | asg: i believe so.. no errors came up |
| 17:56.46 | asg | VoX: how did you copy them? |
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| 17:56.54 | VoX | cp -ax |
| 17:56.58 | asg | hmmm |
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| 17:57.18 | tarzeau | toresbe: http://www.rscott.org/dns/ |
| 17:57.21 | sylvain | salut |
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| 17:57.34 | asg | VoX: then I'd verify the bootloader configuration is correct |
| 17:57.40 | sylvain | petite question .. je suis en SID, sans udev d'installé |
| 17:57.44 | asg | !fr |
| 17:57.44 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 17:57.54 | sylvain | y'a un risque majeur à l'installer ? c'est pour utiliser autofs |
| 17:57.57 | theD3viL | Why my computer is lagging when i copy files from cd to HDD? |
| 17:58.11 | asg | theD3viL: you have no DMA on your drives |
| 17:58.12 | tarzeau | theD3viL: no dma? |
| 17:58.13 | nunez | When I try to mount my external USB HDs, it says their already mounted or busy, which is incorrect, tehy have worked before? |
| 17:58.14 | asg | theD3viL: man dhparm |
| 17:58.22 | theD3viL | k |
| 17:58.23 | theD3viL | tnx |
| 17:58.28 | PeTeRB | hdparm ;) |
| 17:58.28 | asg | theD3viL: man hdparm even |
| 17:58.29 | mikeX | theD3viL, is there high cpu load? |
| 17:58.35 | VoX | asg: hmm but the kernel starts to load.. it recognises the different drives, then craps out |
| 17:58.42 | Dict02x | mikeX, remember me? |
| 17:58.48 | mikeX | Dict02x, yes |
| 17:58.57 | theD3viL | No manual entry for hdparm |
| 17:58.57 | theD3viL | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.02 | asg | VoX: it recognizes the drives or mounts the filesystems? |
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| 17:59.08 | asg | theD3viL: apt-get install it |
| 17:59.10 | asg | !install it |
| 17:59.10 | mikeX | theD3viL, usually without DMA you get max ~3mb/s and 99% cpu load |
| 17:59.28 | VoX | asg: both. it recognises the new drive as ext3, then falls over |
| 17:59.31 | mikeX | theD3viL, use something like gkrellm to monitor your system for disk and cpu usage |
| 17:59.34 | Dict02x | mikeX, now I am in my Debian System :) |
| 17:59.37 | theD3viL | mikeX, yes .. it is so.. |
| 17:59.42 | mikeX | Dict02x, : D |
| 17:59.58 | Dict02x | mikeX, Thanks a lot, and you were right.... editing the /etc/network/interfaces did work |
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| 18:00.12 | asg | VoX: odd, very odd. |
| 18:00.19 | VoX | asg: yeah |
| 18:00.30 | VoX | asg:i think i'll just start from scratch |
| 18:00.33 | Dict02x | mikeX, my laptop seems to not have ACPI installed...... apt-get acpi ?? |
| 18:00.35 | dogayonv | Im getting a No KDE headers found when I try to configure something, when I try to apt install the kde-devel files umet dependancy issues |
| 18:00.36 | VoX | nothing important there anyway |
| 18:00.36 | mikeX | theD3viL, with hdaparm you can enable dma, but it's weird that it's off anyway |
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| 18:00.49 | dogayonv | Can anyone help :) |
| 18:00.50 | Dict02x | mikeX, apt-get install acpi ?? |
| 18:00.52 | mikeX | Dict02x, i'm not sure, I think that has to do with the kernel |
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| 18:01.16 | asg | dogayonv: try #debian-kde |
| 18:01.22 | dogayonv | thanks |
| 18:01.22 | Dict02x | mikeX, oh yes.. I forgot... I need to download a kernel... but the thing is that i need to compile it |
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| 18:01.28 | mikeX | Dict02x, make sure you have acpi/apm loaded in the kernel as well |
| 18:01.32 | theD3viL | mikeX, command? |
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| 18:01.47 | mikeX | Dict02x, just load the module, no need for recompiling |
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| 18:01.58 | mikeX | theD3viL, hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdX |
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| 18:01.58 | Dict02x | mikeX, nope.... |
| 18:02.07 | jhares | pls how recover delete(backup.tar) file on ext3 one hour ago? |
| 18:02.08 | theD3viL | mikeX, tnx |
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| 18:02.30 | jhares | on device /dev/sda5 |
| 18:02.32 | mikeX | theD3viL, and plain 'hdparm /dev/hdX' to see what's up |
| 18:02.32 | Dict02x | mikeX, Is there a kernel package in debian that has the initrd images and the modules.. so there is no need to compile, can I install it through apt-get ?? |
| 18:02.40 | asg | jhares: restore from backups |
| 18:02.49 | caphuso | restoring backup.tar from backups? |
| 18:02.50 | theD3viL | mikeX, hdc (cdrom) or hda (HDD) ? |
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| 18:03.03 | caphuso | now that looks like a decent chicken and egg problem! |
| 18:03.03 | jhares | asg: i havent.. |
| 18:03.08 | asg | caphuso: not a very good backup if he deleted it |
| 18:03.11 | mikeX | Dict02x, I don't understand exactly what you mean but there are kernel packages, apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 18:03.17 | mikeX | theD3viL, both |
| 18:03.22 | asg | jhares: then you've learned a very important lesson. |
| 18:03.27 | caphuso | jhares: if you're really lucky, ext3rminator might work |
| 18:03.27 | jhares | i thought i will need it already.. |
| 18:03.27 | Dict02x | mikeX, ok, no problem.... thanks |
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| 18:03.54 | caphuso | jhares: if it doesn't, you gotta have to scrape the device manually to pick up all the pieces of the file |
| 18:04.13 | caphuso | jhares: and, of course, if some blocks have already been overwritten, you're out of luck |
| 18:04.37 | caphuso | jhares: and most importantly, umount the filesystem *right now* and make a copy |
| 18:04.37 | nunez | When I try to mount my external USB HDs, it says their already mounted or busy, which is incorrect, tehy have worked before? |
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| 18:06.14 | asg | !compile kde stuff is <reply>see http://wiki.debian.net/?KdeDebBuild |
| 18:06.14 | dpkg | okay, asg |
| 18:06.32 | Epidemical | Hey, I'm trying to compile the sk98lin driver downloaded from D-Link, but I'm getting a load of "dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" errors, any idea what I'm missing? |
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| 18:06.40 | asg | haha |
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| 18:07.37 | VoX | what's the package i have to add before you compile a 2.6 kernel? |
| 18:07.46 | tarzeau | where could i find fans of Bubble Bobble, that play a remake of it with me over the network (i need 9 of them) |
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| 18:07.59 | amorphix | should there be a lib directory in the root? |
| 18:08.04 | VoX | i love bubble bobble! |
| 18:08.08 | asg | amorphix: not unless you put one there |
| 18:08.17 | amorphix | oh ffs |
| 18:08.17 | asg | amorphix: or do you mean / instead of /root |
| 18:08.21 | tarzeau | VoX: http://bub-n-bros.sf.net and #bub-n-bros |
| 18:08.28 | amorphix | i mean / |
| 18:08.34 | asg | amorphix: /lib should exist |
| 18:08.38 | amorphix | ok phew |
| 18:08.41 | VoX | tarz: will need to wait a bit - reinstaling deb |
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| 18:08.55 | alcorrr | anyone have a clue how i can get my server to sms me ? |
| 18:09.00 | alcorrr | can i use kennel? |
| 18:09.03 | VoX | but yeah, which module do i need to get? modtools or something? |
| 18:09.08 | tarzeau | VoX: no problem, tell me when you are ready |
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| 18:09.40 | alcorrr | kannel, i mean |
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| 18:09.51 | amorphix | im experiencing some highly confusing shit here while trying to install a driver |
| 18:10.04 | amorphix | im following a howto which says: |
| 18:10.26 | amorphix | cp wacom.ko /lib/modules/ your-kernel-ver/kernel/drivers/usb/input |
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| 18:10.42 | amorphix | from /usr/src/kernel-version |
| 18:10.46 | chealer | tarzeau: I would try it if it would be packaged :) |
| 18:10.56 | VoX | erm |
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| 18:11.11 | VoX | i need to get module-init-tools |
| 18:11.11 | tarzeau | chealer: it's packaged, but broken. can you not just download and unpack it? no need to install |
| 18:11.20 | tarzeau | chealer: all you need is python2.2-dev (or 2.3) |
| 18:11.20 | VoX | but apt is telling me it doesnt exist.. |
| 18:11.33 | Seb | how can I have a longer wtmp on Debian ? |
| 18:11.41 | chealer | amorphix: cp can take 3 args? |
| 18:11.46 | tarzeau | VoX: sarge+? |
| 18:11.50 | tarzeau | chealer: sure |
| 18:11.50 | amorphix | im in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8 but im getting no such file or directory |
| 18:12.03 | tarzeau | chealer: it can take as many as your shell/kernel allows |
| 18:12.04 | Seb | chealer: cp file1 file2 file2 ..... filen dir/ |
| 18:12.10 | alcorrr | can anyone recommend a channel where i can ask about sending an sms from a server plz? |
| 18:12.11 | VoX | tarz: ah |
| 18:12.12 | tarzeau | chealer: linux systems are kinda limited on this though |
| 18:12.15 | VoX | that'll be it |
| 18:12.18 | tarzeau | Seb: how long? |
| 18:12.24 | amorphix | im in the wrong place? |
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| 18:12.28 | tarzeau | Seb: on linux and kfreebsd it's limited, unlike in Hurd |
| 18:12.31 | chealer | tarzeau: ok... it's either me or the manpage |
| 18:12.31 | Seb | tarzeau: longer than this short default :] |
| 18:12.39 | chealer | sorry |
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| 18:12.40 | amorphix | the file i want to copy seems to be located in /lib/.... |
| 18:13.32 | amorphix | either my filesystem is screwed or this howto is out of date |
| 18:13.58 | amorphix | although his kernel is newer than mine in the howto |
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| 18:14.30 | Seb | amorphix: uou just buildt wacom.o ? Then find . -name wacom.o |
| 18:14.31 | amorphix | why isnt anything ever straight forward when it comes to drivers and Linux!!! |
| 18:14.37 | Seb | amorphix: then cp it under /lib/... |
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| 18:15.07 | amorphix | Seb but i have 3 copies on my system and dunno which is the newly built one |
| 18:15.09 | chealer | is it normal that kernel-source-2.6.8 2.6.8-16 only gets low urgency despite the multiple security fixes and RC bugs fixes? |
| 18:15.16 | Seb | amorphix: useless rants decrese your chance of getting help |
| 18:15.22 | chealer | and will it transition to sarge? |
| 18:15.22 | Seb | amorphix: remove them, rebuild |
| 18:15.25 | tarzeau | chealer: it's just the source package |
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| 18:15.31 | Seb | amorphix: then thou shalt havew only one |
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| 18:15.42 | chealer | tarzeau: but what does that change? |
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| 18:15.58 | amorphix | :-( |
| 18:15.59 | tarzeau | chealer: it doesn't fix any security problems |
| 18:16.06 | amorphix | the command i used (part of it) is this: |
| 18:16.10 | amorphix | ./configure --with-kernel=/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 18:16.21 | amorphix | so the right one should be in that path eh? |
| 18:16.48 | chealer | tarzeau: hum, I can see 13 CAN-* in the changelog... |
| 18:16.52 | Seb | amorphix: did you run that find command I gave ya ? |
| 18:16.56 | amorphix | *kernel-headers-2.6.8-2 |
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| 18:17.03 | amorphix | Seb: sure |
| 18:17.07 | Seb | and ? |
| 18:17.10 | chealer | tarzeau: what's the package for the game anyway? |
| 18:17.20 | tarzeau | chealer: doesn't look like -16 will go into testing, unless it's manually handled |
| 18:17.35 | tarzeau | chealer: gnu.ethz.ch/debian/bubnbros/ i think, but it needs be fixed |
| 18:17.43 | tarzeau | chealer: http://bub-n-bros.sf.net/ download it from there, instead |
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| 18:18.06 | chealer | tarzeau: ah, I thought you meant an official package. maybe I'll try without package |
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| 18:18.12 | tarzeau | chealer: it should be split into several packages |
| 18:18.24 | tarzeau | chealer: no the game isn't in main yet |
| 18:18.40 | chealer | tarzeau: I don't understand though, the last upload seems to fix 8 RC bugs. |
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| 18:18.51 | tarzeau | chealer: but if you know a sponsor, i have some in my queue that needs be processed before i can do the other packages |
| 18:18.58 | tarzeau | chealer: neither can i |
| 18:19.01 | diego_ | hola a todos |
| 18:19.04 | tarzeau | chealer: but then, who wants 2.6.8? |
| 18:19.06 | chealer | why would they upload 2.6.8 sources if not for sarge anyway? |
| 18:19.14 | asg | !es |
| 18:19.15 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:19.34 | amorphix | Seb: that command returned nothing, but locate returns 3 files |
| 18:19.51 | Seb | amorphix: you ran it from the same dir you ran ./configure ... ? |
| 18:20.06 | amorphix | no |
| 18:20.07 | Epidemical | Okay, this is the output from "make all" when I try to compile the sk98lin driver from D-Link: http://pastebin.com/290835 (did you know pastebin has a limit on 992 lines?) |
| 18:20.11 | micha_ | i prefer to load my kernel from kernel.org, without any debian patches |
| 18:20.11 | chealer | tarzeau: I could use it, although I have a 2.6.11.10 ATM |
| 18:20.11 | Epidemical | Does anybody have a clue? |
| 18:20.15 | Seb | amorphix: then do |
| 18:20.18 | amorphix | ok sorry |
| 18:20.23 | tarzeau | !cluebat Epidemical |
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| 18:20.34 | tarzeau | !qotd 121 |
| 18:20.35 | dpkg | i guess qotd 121 is < cahoot> amorphix: run 'file linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2 ' < amorphix> linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2: HTML document text, or >> amorphix<< liable: I dont have idget < amorphix> is the name right? |
| 18:20.42 | tarzeau | !qotd 122 |
| 18:20.42 | dpkg | from memory, qotd 122 is < amorphix> bunzip2: linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file < cahoot> amorphix: run 'file linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2 ' < amorphix> linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2: HTML document text < liable> you idget >> amorphix<< liable: I dont have idget < amorphix> is the name right? |
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| 18:21.08 | amorphix | Seb: ./src/2.6.8/wacom.o |
| 18:21.14 | amorphix | astonishing |
| 18:21.18 | tarzeau | micha_: i prefer to use non-linux kernels |
| 18:21.20 | amorphix | thats my file! |
| 18:21.21 | Seb | amorphix: good now, cp thant into lib as you were told |
| 18:21.27 | Seb | amorphix: then depmod -a |
| 18:21.27 | amorphix | yes |
| 18:21.34 | Seb | amorphix: then modprobe wacom |
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| 18:21.39 | amorphix | thanks |
| 18:21.40 | Seb | note that make install should do all that |
| 18:21.41 | amorphix | :D |
| 18:21.56 | micha_ | tarzeau: hehe :-) next time i'll try to use ZEN :) |
| 18:21.57 | Seb | there rarely is a need to cp modules to /lib/... manually |
| 18:22.31 | chealer | tarzeau: so, you made the bub-n-bros packages? |
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| 18:22.44 | tarzeau | chealer: well i tried, wanna help fix them up? |
| 18:22.56 | Seb | amorphix: np. Just remember this: when you build something, it's pretty much always gonna be under ./ |
| 18:23.02 | tarzeau | chealer: the thing is i'm not really a master of pythong |
| 18:23.08 | tarzeau | (without g) |
| 18:23.14 | chealer | tarzeau: I am *not* a DD. the only language I don't break too easily is PHP |
| 18:23.17 | Seb | i am a python masterm though :> |
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| 18:23.25 | tarzeau | chealer: you don't need to be a DD at all, neither am i |
| 18:23.30 | chealer | python is a language I really wish to learn |
| 18:23.38 | tarzeau | Seb: really? can you help get that package into shape? |
| 18:23.40 | Seb | you should |
| 18:23.47 | tarzeau | chealer: not so for me. but Objective-C is what i like |
| 18:23.48 | Seb | tarzeau: what kind of pbs are there with it ? |
| 18:23.57 | chealer | tarzeau: I'm not much of a developer neither anyway. and I don't know any sponsor for sure |
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| 18:24.15 | tarzeau | Seb: the directory structure, and splitting them to debian directories, python deb policy? |
| 18:24.18 | YOLT | excuse me all. who easy is it to install and use debian? does it have a graphical interface. will it support my stupid usb modem. thanks all |
| 18:24.21 | tarzeau | Seb: gnu.ethz.ch/debian/bubnbros/ |
| 18:24.30 | Seb | tarzeau: email me some details |
| 18:24.34 | chealer | tarzeau: what do you mean? that you already know python or that you don't like it? |
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| 18:24.41 | tarzeau | chealer: oh that's not a problem either, i have sponsors, it just takes some time |
| 18:24.49 | tarzeau | chealer: that i don't know it, and i don't plan to learn it |
| 18:24.56 | tarzeau | Seb: email address? |
| 18:24.59 | Coke | Ok, I've got ehci, usbhid and joystick modules, _something_ is connected to USB port 1 according to lsusb, but no joystick devices. What is missing? The Linux documentation talks about a module "analog", but I can't find it. |
| 18:25.07 | Seb | tarzeau: just /msg'ed it to ya |
| 18:25.09 | tarzeau | Seb: i hoped you find out yourself, get source package, build, run, check debian/* |
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| 18:25.23 | chealer | YOLT: it has a graphical interface. you want to get sarge though. what kind of modem is it? |
| 18:25.35 | chealer | YOLT: I mean a dialup modem? |
| 18:25.47 | YOLT | its a cable modem |
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| 18:26.16 | chealer | YOLT: never tried, but I don't think that could be a problem |
| 18:26.22 | Seb | Coke: uhci_hdc, usbcore ? |
| 18:26.26 | Seb | hcd |
| 18:26.31 | YOLT | i tried to use it on mandriva but it didnt work |
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| 18:26.40 | crashbg | how to tell dhcp3-server to listen to eth0 instead of eth1? |
| 18:26.53 | chealer | YOLT: always try google... |
| 18:26.56 | Coke | Seb: usbcore is automatically loaded when loading ehci_hcd |
| 18:27.05 | Seb | Coke: how about the other one ? |
| 18:27.08 | simonrvn | crashbg: /etc/default/dhcpsomething |
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| 18:27.13 | YOLT | i have tried google seems no one has been able to do it |
| 18:27.29 | diego_ | hola amigos |
| 18:27.31 | Coke | Seb: uhci? isn't ehci enough? |
| 18:27.43 | Seb | Coke: well you tell me, does it look like it ? |
| 18:27.45 | robin_sz | ok, someone hit me for buying YET ANOTHER fscking winmodem |
| 18:27.46 | simonrvn | crashbg: i think it's also handled by debconf (dpkg-reconfigure foo) |
| 18:27.54 | Seb | Coke: we're trying stuff out here |
| 18:27.54 | chealer | YOLT: ok...I suppose that's not good |
| 18:27.58 | simonrvn | @hit robin_sz |
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| 18:28.11 | Seb | slaps even |
| 18:28.26 | simonrvn | heh, that's funny too :) |
| 18:28.29 | chealer | tarzeau: I thought you would know python because of moin |
| 18:28.29 | Coke | Seb: ok, but dmesg looks OK after modprobe ehci_hcd |
| 18:28.36 | YOLT | chealer seems some on was able to do it but with heavy heavy modifications |
| 18:28.40 | Seb | Coke: so you're not gonna try it ? |
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| 18:28.43 | tarzeau | chealer: nah! i picked moin because it's not php or perl ;) |
| 18:28.51 | Seb | hah |
| 18:28.54 | Seb | good pick |
| 18:28.54 | chealer | tarzeau: hehe :-P |
| 18:29.04 | Seb | tarzeau: hey, you might even like python :> |
| 18:29.05 | micha_ | mh whats the "best" irc client? atm i use bitchx !? |
| 18:29.09 | Seb | irssi |
| 18:29.09 | Coke | Seb: sure. the docs even say they work together if you want both 2.0 and 1.1 support |
| 18:29.10 | asg | micha_: irssi-text |
| 18:29.16 | cklennard | hi there, i have some problems setting up a serial line connection between a debian box and a microcontroller. Minicom doesn't show anything at all. The kernel is compiled with serial line support and minicom is configured, also the bios. Any suggstions would be appreciated. |
| 18:29.23 | tarzeau | micha_: talksoup.app |
| 18:29.38 | Seb | cklennard: doesn't show anything ? |
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| 18:29.50 | cklennard | eh, well no messages from the mc |
| 18:29.55 | Coke | Seb: could be the joystick is 1.1 only. |
| 18:29.56 | chealer | YOLT: well, tell what's your modem in case somebody else knows |
| 18:30.01 | Seb | cklennard: well maybe the pb is on the mc side then |
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| 18:30.11 | beardy | cklennard: How do you know minicom is configured correctly? |
| 18:30.14 | Seb | Coke: 2.0 is backwards compatible though afail |
| 18:30.18 | Seb | afaik |
| 18:30.23 | cklennard | Seb: what is pb? |
| 18:30.27 | Seb | problem |
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| 18:30.32 | cklennard | argl |
| 18:30.49 | YOLT | its a motorola surfboard sb5120. its has ethernet but my ethernet card on my comp is burnt and i really really cant get one. |
| 18:31.00 | Seb | cklennard: make sure the right communication params are set too (bauds parity etc...) |
| 18:31.07 | cklennard | Seb: hm, maybe but how could i test that is there some sort of ping for serial connections? |
| 18:31.25 | cklennard | Seb: yeah the params are like the spec sayd |
| 18:31.42 | Seb | cklennard: well the ping is when minicom shows something :) |
| 18:31.52 | cklennard | Seb: ack :( |
| 18:32.00 | Coke | Seb: still the same, "Port 2: 0001.0000 C_CONNECT" from lsusb -v |
| 18:32.07 | beardy | cklennard: If it says nothing, maybe that is a sign that it _does_ work? What is going to be displayed on connect, from the mcu? |
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| 18:32.10 | k-dog2 | How do I query devices on my USB bus? |
| 18:32.17 | k-dog2 | brb |
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| 18:32.29 | cklennard | beardy: well some boot info and at last a prompt |
| 18:32.55 | jeff99 | does anyone know how to burn a kvcd using k3b? |
| 18:33.20 | Seb | jeff99: it's in the menu homeboy |
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| 18:33.31 | beardy | cklennard: What kind of mcu is it? |
| 18:33.33 | Seb | jeff99: or shall we tell ya exactly where in the menus it is ? |
| 18:33.38 | cklennard | Seb+beardy would it make sense to play with setserial or something like that |
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| 18:33.48 | cklennard | beardy: an dk40 from buhl |
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| 18:33.58 | jeff99 | i see burn vcd , but no burn Kvcd |
| 18:33.59 | Seb | cklennard: you shouldn't have too, but who knows. Using 2.6 ? |
| 18:34.13 | Seb | jeff99: how about some #kde then ? |
| 18:34.19 | cklennard | Seb: nope 2.4.30 |
| 18:34.29 | Coke | Seb: I'm just guessing, I haven't found any documentation hinting what modules are needed. My guess is usbcore, ehci_hcd, usbhid and joydev. My guess was wrong. |
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| 18:34.41 | Seb | Coke: well I dunno then |
| 18:34.50 | beardy | cklennard: Is there anything you can configure on the device, jumpers, other? Is it on? :) |
| 18:34.58 | cklennard | beardy: ah sorry it is beck not buhl |
| 18:34.59 | Seb | Coke: are you sure your joystick is supported by joydev ? |
| 18:35.03 | doublehp | when I connect through SSH , .bashrc is executed (echo stuff appear), but the PATH=$PATH:other is not effective ... hov can I increase the path using bashrc ? |
| 18:35.13 | Coke | Seb: it has worked before. |
| 18:35.16 | Supaplex | when install pg on windows, is there a default password or something? |
| 18:35.20 | Seb | Coke: "before" what ? |
| 18:35.29 | Seb | Supaplex: wdf ? |
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| 18:35.32 | Coke | Seb: before I switched from 2.4.27 to the 2.6.8 |
| 18:35.48 | Seb | doublehp: export PATH |
| 18:35.55 | cklennard | beardy: well, yeah. i have a connected all external ping put jumpers that i will have to check out |
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| 18:35.57 | amorphix | ffs i give up with this damn wacom driver!! |
| 18:36.03 | doublehp | Seb: not better |
| 18:36.07 | Seb | doublehp: if you see the echo, then the rest will be executed too logically |
| 18:36.11 | Coke | Seb: I just can't remember what modules were there then. I have no idea about joystick. It makes sense to load the joystick device driver if you want joystick devices, or? |
| 18:36.15 | Seb | doublehp: so how can you tell it doesn';t work ? |
| 18:36.25 | cklennard | beardy: uhm ..external pins |
| 18:36.32 | chealer | I see that a DD asked the same question I asked about kernel-source packages on debian-release : http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg01645.html |
| 18:36.39 | Seb | Coke: google joystick 2.6 linux then |
| 18:36.44 | karamelos | My var/log/messages says "Realtime LSM initialized (no groups, mlock=1)" How can I set this module to _always_ use a group 29 ? |
| 18:36.53 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: you don't join? |
| 18:37.10 | amorphix | Seb: i cp all the files and did everything but then got to stage on howto where it says to cp wacom_drv but that file hasnt been built!!! |
| 18:37.11 | doublehp | Seb: aliases are not unasebl, PATH is not modified, but echo is performed |
| 18:37.32 | Seb | amorphix: dude, wacom_drv.o |
| 18:37.33 | Coke | Seb: done it |
| 18:37.36 | Seb | doublehp: not possible |
| 18:37.44 | amorphix | Seb: sorry thats what i meant |
| 18:37.46 | cahoot | Coke: input_joystick maybe? |
| 18:37.49 | Supaplex | Seb: it's not wdf. is this an acronym for something else? |
| 18:37.54 | amorphix | the directory path isnt there for it |
| 18:37.58 | Seb | Supaplex: What Da Fuck ? |
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| 18:38.10 | amorphix | cp prebuilt/wacom_drv.o_4.3k2.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/wacom_drv.o |
| 18:38.19 | doublehp | Seb: I do export PATH since over 6 years ... never seen that |
| 18:38.24 | amorphix | no such directory prebuilt |
| 18:38.24 | Seb | doublehp: make an alia right below the echo |
| 18:38.24 | Supaplex | Seb: wtf as in pg on windows, or something else? |
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| 18:38.37 | Seb | Supaplex: Why Tha Fuck do you ask here ? |
| 18:38.38 | amorphix | i think something went wrong with my configure? |
| 18:38.50 | Supaplex | sorry! I thought I was in postgres :P |
| 18:38.52 | Seb | doublehp: make sure the echo doesn't come from some other file then |
| 18:38.53 | doublehp | Seb: echo is the last line |
| 18:38.55 | Seb | Supaplex: haha |
| 18:39.02 | karamelos | I need to set a permanent value parameter for Realtime LSM kernel module. How can I do it? |
| 18:39.03 | doublehp | Seb: I am sure\ |
| 18:39.06 | Coke | cahoot: where would that come from? |
| 18:39.13 | amorphix | damn im just too dumb |
| 18:39.28 | cahoot | -> Device Drivers -> Input device support |
| 18:39.40 | Seb | doublehp: tried .bash_profile |
| 18:39.41 | Seb | ? |
| 18:39.57 | Seb | Coke: you should use a prebuilt image man |
| 18:40.04 | Coke | cahoot: the name of the module you are thinking of is joydev |
| 18:40.08 | Coke | cahoot: and it's already loaded. |
| 18:40.13 | Coke | Seb: no thanks |
| 18:40.49 | Seb | Coke: well too bad for ya, maybe you'd get the module you're missing then |
| 18:41.00 | Seb | Coke: no go back to figuring out what you omitted in your kernel config |
| 18:41.04 | Seb | s/no/now/ |
| 18:41.40 | Coke | Seb: the problem is not that I am missing any modules, the problem is that I do not know which ones to use |
| 18:41.46 | amorphix | i must be the dumbest linux user here heh |
| 18:41.48 | doublehp | Seb: I had to import a fresh .bash_prifile from an other box ... works now |
| 18:42.05 | Seb | doublehp: some other file was maybe resetting the path |
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| 18:42.14 | Seb | doublehp: i dunno the order bash loads thosem I use zsh |
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| 18:42.37 | amorphix | is there some book anyone can recommend so i can learn about Linux properly? |
| 18:43.01 | shingouz | Running Linux, O'Reilly |
| 18:43.06 | amorphix | cool |
| 18:43.09 | MasterYoda | amorphix: what do you mean by properly :) |
| 18:43.22 | amorphix | im just hopeless at finding my way around the system |
| 18:43.37 | Seb | Coke: modprobe -l | while read f ; do modprobe `basename $f | sed -e 's/.ko//'` ; done |
| 18:43.38 | amorphix | i have no clue how to compile stuff or where the system tree layout is |
| 18:43.49 | *** part/#debian jhares (~jhares@161.165.broadband2.iol.cz) |
| 18:43.50 | Seb | Coke: that'll definitely tell ya if you're missing it or not |
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| 18:44.06 | Coke | Seb: no, it will tell me if I compiled it or not |
| 18:44.15 | Seb | Coke: precisey |
| 18:44.19 | Seb | precisely |
| 18:44.35 | Coke | Seb: however, I'm sure it will also compromise system stability |
| 18:44.45 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: join what? |
| 18:44.51 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: bub-n-bros? |
| 18:44.55 | Seb | Coke: definitely |
| 18:44.59 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yeah, we're 2 already |
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| 18:45.02 | Seb | Coke: it will blue screen |
| 18:45.05 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: link |
| 18:45.07 | Seb | and spit at ya |
| 18:45.10 | beardy | amorphix: Debian Reference |
| 18:45.14 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: gnu.ethz.ch:51778 |
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| 18:45.46 | Seb | Coke: now, unless you wanna run a debian kernel image, where it'd work fine out-of-the-box, you're gonna have to find someone else to help you oyt |
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| 18:45.57 | kullanici | hi.. |
| 18:46.05 | kullanici | how can i check hdd for bad sectors etc ? |
| 18:46.07 | Seb | COke: maybe even just booting one and seeing which module it uses would be enoguh |
| 18:46.07 | tarzeau | kullanici: selam |
| 18:46.12 | tarzeau | kullanici: using badblocks |
| 18:46.13 | Seb | kullanici: fsck -c |
| 18:46.15 | beardy | amorphix: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html |
| 18:46.25 | kullanici | tarzeau, selam :) |
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| 18:46.50 | amorphix | i will investigate those books thanks guys |
| 18:47.01 | amorphix | i have a £20 voucher for Waterstones so will pay a visit tmw :) |
| 18:47.08 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: ok im coming |
| 18:47.16 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yay! |
| 18:47.50 | kullanici | tarzeau, badblocksu nasil kullancam |
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| 18:48.21 | YOLT | how many of debian iso do i need to download? |
| 18:48.29 | tarzeau | kullanici: man badblocks |
| 18:48.30 | deadcat | none |
| 18:48.32 | tarzeau | YOLT: none |
| 18:48.41 | deadcat | YOLT: just get the net installer. like 43mb |
| 18:48.44 | beardy | YOLT: Do you have a better internet connection than dialup? |
| 18:48.50 | tarzeau | deadcat: or the tftpboot image |
| 18:49.06 | deadcat | YOLT: debian motto: be lazy.. fucking lazy |
| 18:49.07 | YOLT | yes but hello dont you remember linux cant use my usb cablem modem |
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| 18:49.30 | Coke | Seb: how would a debian image work right out of the box? does it really load all modules? |
| 18:49.31 | deadcat | YOLT: you that mother fucker? oh shit |
| 18:50.01 | YOLT | yes the usb cable modem. i went to wall mart didnt find no 5 dollar NICs |
| 18:50.18 | deadcat | bullshit. they are like $1.99 |
| 18:50.43 | YOLT | no there not i went to a wal mart super center. i promise didnt find anything |
| 18:50.43 | PeTeRB | deadcat: That's why he didn't find any $5 ones :) |
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| 18:50.50 | deadcat | PeTeRB: hahah. |
| 18:50.55 | VChriZZ | hiho |
| 18:51.23 | deadcat | YOLT: where you live? |
| 18:51.39 | YOLT | Georgia USA |
| 18:52.02 | deadcat | YOLT: you guys have frys? |
| 18:52.20 | dotCOMmie | go to best buy or something d: |
| 18:52.23 | davi | What file must I modify to add parameter to the Linux kernel modules ? |
| 18:52.31 | dotCOMmie | or heck order one online |
| 18:52.36 | deadcat | davi: menuconfig? |
| 18:52.40 | YOLT | are you sure i will find them for 5 bucks? normal modems cost 20 |
| 18:52.41 | VChriZZ | could someone help me with samba? i want to set it up as domain controller, but when i try to log onto the DC i get "access denied" on the win2k workstation... my config file: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AqfrKa77.html |
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| 18:53.05 | davi | deadcat, make xconfig No I do not thinks so |
| 18:53.40 | deadcat | davi: did you go through the xconfig? |
| 18:53.42 | davi | What file must I modify to add parameter to the Linux kernel modules, as for example: bttv card=42 radio=0 ? |
| 18:54.03 | davi | deadcat, Yes, I have compiled a kernel a lot of times |
| 18:54.12 | beardy | davi: What do you mean? When you boot? When you are compiling, what? Be more specific please. |
| 18:54.16 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: you awake? |
| 18:54.27 | davi | beardy, when I boot |
| 18:54.34 | deadcat | davi: then you dont need my help (= |
| 18:54.48 | VChriZZ | davi: # modconf ? |
| 18:55.05 | VChriZZ | there you can pass parameters to the module you are loading |
| 18:55.05 | davi | deadcat, sincerely, thanks any way for your feedback |
| 18:55.06 | YOLT | Linksys EtherFast Desktop 10/100 PCI Network Card 24.99 u see its not 5 bucks |
| 18:55.12 | beardy | davi: Depends on your bootloader. If lilo, /etc/lilo.conf. If grub, /boot/grub/? |
| 18:55.25 | YOLT | mother wont even give me 5 bucks for the NIC. lol |
| 18:55.29 | simonrvn | menu.lst |
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| 18:56.11 | davi | VChriZZ, Yes, maybe. Maybe it is related to the /etc/modules.conf file. |
| 18:56.13 | davi | thanks |
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| 18:57.12 | YOLT | you know what stop being idiots and saying that i can go to wal mart and get a NIC for 5 bucks, |
| 18:57.23 | paulswm | asg: was away, sorry about the bug, I should have tested better |
| 18:57.25 | simonrvn | eeew, walmart |
| 18:57.26 | FieldySnuts | @lart YOLT |
| 18:57.45 | asg | paulswm: no worries |
| 18:57.48 | asg | !pubtime |
| 18:57.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pubtime is time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
| 18:57.57 | simonrvn | asg: lates |
| 18:58.02 | asg | simonrvn: have a good one |
| 18:58.12 | simonrvn | i will :). you too :) |
| 18:58.23 | resiak | YOLT: Not to Wal-Mart. Go to a computer fair. |
| 18:58.24 | paulswm | asg: stay safe |
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| 18:59.17 | YOLT | resiak: dude im 17. im over protected i can barely get out of my house. searching for a job A&F wont give it to me. |
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| 18:59.56 | resiak | YOLT: Dude, computer fairs aren't exactly hard to find or risky. |
| 19:00.07 | resiak | YOLT: Hell, you can order one from the internet for that. |
| 19:00.12 | resiak | YOLT: FWIW, I'm 18. |
| 19:00.14 | heatsink | How can I figure out which package owns a particular file? |
| 19:00.19 | resiak | heatsink: dpkg -S |
| 19:00.24 | heatsink | ok |
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| 19:00.32 | YOLT | resiak: hey thats cool. lets be friends. im alone. i have no friends. |
| 19:00.35 | FieldySnuts | please don't feed the troll |
| 19:00.41 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: how can I make my name show up |
| 19:01.52 | resiak | YOLT: That's not particularly relevant, though, is it? I'm not in .us, so I don't know what the best place to order one from is. :-) |
| 19:02.07 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: in the browser, select |
| 19:02.13 | YOLT | resiak: better yet. i need international friends |
| 19:02.23 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: http://127.0.0.1:8000/0xd4e1/name.html Player Names & Teams |
| 19:02.44 | Wille88_ | why nbd-client is looking for /dev/nbX? the devices are actually /dev/nbdX and I had to make symlink /dev/nbd0 to /dev/nb0 |
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| 19:03.54 | amorphix | my system just made a very strange noise! |
| 19:04.10 | amorphix | like something from Dr Who |
| 19:04.12 | YOLT | amorphix: hit it with a ruler. i always do |
| 19:04.17 | amorphix | haha |
| 19:04.21 | amorphix | it was a wav file |
| 19:04.25 | amorphix | i dunno what triggered it |
| 19:04.39 | YOLT | amorphix: i once broke a metal ruler on my comp |
| 19:04.43 | amorphix | eeek |
| 19:04.58 | MasterYoda | the truth hurts.... |
| 19:04.58 | tarzeau | MasterYoda: hahaah |
| 19:05.02 | YOLT | haha |
| 19:05.11 | paulswm | !prize MasterYoda |
| 19:05.12 | YOLT | Bye all. going to get a job to buy a NIC |
| 19:05.19 | amorphix | haha |
| 19:05.22 | Myren | anyone have suggestions for web sites to debug DNS issues? |
| 19:05.27 | paulswm | MasterYoda: consider it a badge of honor :) |
| 19:05.30 | amorphix | a job to buy a nic, i like it |
| 19:05.32 | Myren | someone posted a really good one that i lost the address of |
| 19:05.47 | MasterYoda | originally I went in there to get help with installing g++ cause yum install g++ does not work and yum search g++ is useless |
| 19:05.50 | paulswm | He aoin't bright enough to get a job |
| 19:05.51 | eightchar | Myren: w/ bind, tinydns, wha? |
| 19:06.05 | tarzeau | Myren: host |
| 19:06.06 | MasterYoda | turns out the package is named gcc-c++... so that's when it started... |
| 19:06.09 | amorphix | was he a troll? |
| 19:06.27 | Myren | i'm using bind. there's web sites which inspect your DNS though and give a whole big status report |
| 19:06.43 | Myren | like dnshelper.com or something like that (dnshelper is not it) |
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| 19:06.56 | eightchar | Myren: dig or host command like tarzeau says |
| 19:07.04 | amorphix | wish me luck guys |
| 19:07.09 | Myren | thank, i've been dig and hosting for two weeks now |
| 19:07.12 | paulswm | !bless amorphix |
| 19:07.13 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child amorphix, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 19:07.16 | amorphix | :D |
| 19:07.24 | Myren | the web sites run down a whole list of RFC's checking for compliance |
| 19:07.32 | eightchar | neat |
| 19:07.33 | Myren | dig not so useful in that respect, but thanks |
| 19:08.24 | gahan | how to set mcedit to put prompt to the beginning of the line after i type enter? if i type \tblah and then hit enter, new line starts with \t ... |
| 19:08.48 | tarzeau | gahan: i don't understand |
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| 19:09.13 | heatsink | okay! no more unmet dependences thx rziak |
| 19:09.15 | mogorman | hey masteryoda i have a question |
| 19:09.28 | MasterYoda | mogorman: no it just not loud |
| 19:09.37 | cklennard | beardy+Seb: thanks guys, under windows it works fine, but same setup doesn't work here...so i guess i'll check the bios again. Anyway thanks a lot for your help. |
| 19:09.40 | MasterYoda | mogorman: try it now |
| 19:09.52 | mogorman | hey masteryoda i have a question |
| 19:10.01 | MasterYoda | mogorman: hear it? |
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| 19:10.50 | d03boy | which version of debian would you suggest a newb uses? |
| 19:11.00 | dataw0lf|w | sarge |
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| 19:11.11 | gahan | tarzeau: in mcedit type folowing"<space><space>blah<enter>", next line will start with two whitespaces, for example in pico if i type the same, new line starts from the beginning (without whitespaces) |
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| 19:11.17 | tarzeau | d03boy: sarge |
| 19:11.19 | tarzeau | !noob |
| 19:11.19 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 19:11.27 | gahan | from the very beginning |
| 19:11.27 | tarzeau | gahan: try f9 |
| 19:11.41 | grigor1 | does anyone know how to find out all the IPs under mirrors.kernel.org? |
| 19:11.43 | d03boy | uh... not sure if that was necessary |
| 19:12.43 | tarzeau | !nickometer d03boy |
| 19:12.43 | dpkg | 'd03boy' is 49.000% lame, tarzeau |
| 19:12.54 | MasterYoda | thanks for your support guys, laters |
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| 19:13.16 | gahan | tarzeau: hm found it in options |
| 19:13.26 | gahan | tarzeau: i could have searched before asking |
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| 19:15.07 | Myren | wow, #kernel is so dead |
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| 19:15.26 | tarzeau | Myren: wrong network |
| 19:15.26 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: you suck |
| 19:15.32 | tarzeau | Myren: wrong name, #kernelnewbies |
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| 19:15.38 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: hehehe i have more bananas than you! |
| 19:15.39 | amorphix | how do i kill X and return to a shell? Im running gdm |
| 19:15.52 | tarzeau | http://bub-n-bros.sf.net absolutely rocks! JOIN, 6 slots free |
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| 19:16.33 | amorphix | need to exit from X and get to shell to restart X |
| 19:16.45 | incorrect | which is faster on woody sun's java or blackdown's java? |
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| 19:17.02 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: and you can put them in your goatse.cx |
| 19:17.49 | grigora | amorphix: I don't know about killing X, but you can do Ctrl-Alt-F2 |
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| 19:19.38 | roods_ | how do you compute 855^2753 mod 3233 using bc? |
| 19:20.03 | d03boy | I love dpkg. |
| 19:20.15 | tarzeau | dpkg love d03boy |
| 19:20.20 | toresbe | roods_: modulo? As in base 3233= |
| 19:20.22 | toresbe | ?* |
| 19:20.27 | roods_ | toresbe, yes |
| 19:20.38 | resiak | Modulo != Base! |
| 19:20.47 | roods_ | oh no |
| 19:20.50 | roods_ | as in Z/nZ |
| 19:21.05 | Myren | how do i reverse lookup with nslookup & host? |
| 19:21.11 | roods_ | the subring of the integers |
| 19:21.13 | resiak | roods_: (855 ^ 2753) % 3233 |
| 19:21.14 | Seb | Myren: dig -x |
| 19:21.24 | toresbe | wait, there's that % operator |
| 19:21.27 | dondelelcaro | or look for the reversed address... |
| 19:21.28 | toresbe | oh, resiak++ |
| 19:21.30 | resiak | roods_: badger % mushroom is badger (mod mushroom) |
| 19:22.18 | Tiberio | I'd edit my bash_profile to have my private /bin directory, but it don't work... my distro is Sarge. |
| 19:22.25 | resiak | !don't work |
| 19:22.25 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 19:22.45 | Myren | i'm still not sucessfully getting my reverse dns |
| 19:22.48 | Myren | ugg, |
| 19:22.48 | Seb | Tiberio: export PATH=~/bin:$PATH |
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| 19:23.15 | Tiberio | Seb, i did ... |
| 19:23.22 | paulswm | bananas? |
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| 19:23.27 | Seb | Tiberio: so how does it not work ? |
| 19:23.31 | Phated | Tiberio: Logged in and out? |
| 19:23.32 | roods_ | resiak, take a look at this output http://world.std.com/~franl/crypto/rsa-example.html, why didn't i see the same dump? all i saw was the 123 part |
| 19:23.33 | Seb | bananas are good |
| 19:23.36 | paulswm | !fruitsmite tarzeau |
| 19:23.39 | crimsondr | hi, can someone tell me if apache can serve jsp pages? |
| 19:23.43 | Phated | Tiberio: Also, put it in .bashrc and source it from .bash_profile. |
| 19:23.43 | Seb | but they won't help me getting unbored |
| 19:23.51 | Seb | unless I was a girl of course |
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| 19:23.58 | Tiberio | Phated, :-) i did |
| 19:24.11 | Phated | All right, go play with the other kiddies. |
| 19:24.23 | tarzeau | paulswm: you're playing too? |
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| 19:25.00 | resiak | roods_: If you leave off the % 3233 you get the dump. |
| 19:25.16 | paulswm | tarzeau: No, I just saw a bananas comment, I'm probably missing something in my quick reread of the log |
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| 19:25.42 | Seb | Tiberio: so how does it fucking not work ? |
| 19:25.49 | simonrvn | hmm, not getting group info... |
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| 19:26.02 | simonrvn | i'll figure it out later. got stuff to do |
| 19:26.04 | tarzeau | paulswm: you're missing the biggest fun ever in your life! |
| 19:26.05 | Seb | since dpkg's hint to you didn't seem to trigger the appropriate reaction |
| 19:26.11 | tarzeau | paulswm: join now! http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 19:26.30 | Coke | Seb: I get an error from the hid-core module. Someone in a mailinglist said things sorted out after going from 2.6.8 to 2.6.10. Might be a bug. |
| 19:26.40 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: stop stealing bananas |
| 19:26.40 | Seb | Coke: maybe |
| 19:27.04 | Seb | Coke: may I mention booting a debian kernel image based on .10 or .11 to quickly and painfully check this assertion ? |
| 19:27.06 | paulswm | tarzeau: Oh, yes, I looked at that yesterday but couldn't make much sense of the game instructions so didn't join :) |
| 19:27.07 | Phated | tarzeau: What,m bunnbros? |
| 19:27.12 | robin_sz | so ... this frickin modem I bought ... |
| 19:27.20 | Coke | Seb: alas, I use the Debian packages, 2.6.8 is the latest in sarge. |
| 19:27.21 | tarzeau | Phated: so cool and fun. you be dragons |
| 19:27.24 | tarzeau | Phated: and make bubbles |
| 19:27.28 | robin_sz | remember, the one you were slapping me about for earlier? |
| 19:27.28 | Seb | Coke: oh sarge... |
| 19:27.32 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: mine. all mine. precious ;) |
| 19:27.35 | Phated | tarzeau: Ehm... Well, OK. Has it been packaged? |
| 19:27.42 | tarzeau | Phated: no. |
| 19:27.48 | Phated | tarzeau: Online? |
| 19:27.48 | tarzeau | Phated: well yes, but it's broke. just untar the source |
| 19:27.57 | tarzeau | Phated: yes 10 players max. join while there's free place |
| 19:27.57 | robin_sz | so .. this frickin modem ... conexant, works great with Hylafax, the hylafax blurb says ... |
| 19:27.57 | Phated | tarzeau: Ah, cool. |
| 19:28.09 | tarzeau | Phated: gnu.ethz.ch/debian/bubnbros for the broken thing, if you feel like fixing it |
| 19:28.12 | Coke | Seb: I will wait until a newer kernel version is available or someone backports the hid-core patches to 2.6.8 |
| 19:28.16 | robin_sz | tunrs out the "free" driver has gone .. and its frickin closed source :( |
| 19:28.18 | Phated | tarzeau: Heh, cool. Why not, I'm bored anyway. |
| 19:28.33 | Seb | Coke: why not try 2.6.11 ? |
| 19:28.40 | Coke | Seb: it has no candidate. |
| 19:28.41 | Seb | being bored is one thing |
| 19:28.53 | Seb | being bored and not have X running is a totally different one |
| 19:28.58 | Seb | Coke: manually get it |
| 19:29.02 | robin_sz | poxy poxy poxy conexant modems :( |
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| 19:29.22 | tarzeau | Phated: coo.l, just unpack, you need python2.2-dev (or 2.3), then run ./BubBros.py and talk in #bub-n-bros |
| 19:29.37 | tarzeau | Phated: always make bubbles, steal all fruits and any non-moving items |
| 19:29.43 | Phated | tarzeau: Right. |
| 19:30.14 | robin_sz | so .. what exactly are my options for winmodems under Debian? |
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| 19:30.26 | Coke | Seb: I use the Debian sources because of the quality ensurance. :) |
| 19:30.27 | robin_sz | or linmodems anyway? |
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| 19:30.34 | Seb | Coke: ok then |
| 19:30.38 | resiak | robin_sz: What modem do you have? |
| 19:30.47 | robin_sz | coexant hfs |
| 19:30.52 | robin_sz | conexant even |
| 19:30.53 | Seb | robin_sz: that works fine |
| 19:30.57 | Coke | Seb: I dare not lest my machine will be broken by evil non-Debian kernels. ;) |
| 19:30.58 | robin_sz | with? |
| 19:31.05 | Seb | Coke: heh |
| 19:31.07 | robin_sz | Seb: how soes it work fine? |
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| 19:31.38 | robin_sz | Seb: my sarge box doesnt see it as a ttyS* |
| 19:31.43 | tarzeau | MY BANANA |
| 19:31.51 | tarzeau | GOLDEN BANANAS FOR GOLDEN DRAGON |
| 19:31.53 | Seb | robin_sz: you need a proprietary driver from someplace |
| 19:31.54 | tarzeau | oops |
| 19:32.04 | takatumi | robin_sz: linuxant.com, pay for the driver. or buy a real one. |
| 19:32.11 | Seb | robin_sz: then it'll be a ttySL0 |
| 19:32.19 | Seb | takatumi: nah you don't need to pay |
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| 19:32.26 | robin_sz | Seb: correct, a closed source, $$$ driver, that they dont do for a 686 smp kernel |
| 19:32.31 | Phated | tarzeau: Duuuude, what are the controls? |
| 19:32.37 | Seb | i dunno about smp |
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| 19:32.53 | Seb | but I didn't have to pay for mine, and it does work on my non-smp laptop |
| 19:32.57 | robin_sz | takatumi: they dont do one for 2.6.10 i686 SMP |
| 19:33.09 | tarzeau | Phated: wehn you click the draogn |
| 19:33.15 | tarzeau | Phated: it shows some arrow, press the keys for them |
| 19:33.22 | jharrisonwk | wow some woman in indonesia got 20 years for 9 pounds of weed |
| 19:33.23 | thayboiMu | hey i steal wireless from my neighbor :D |
| 19:33.23 | tarzeau | Phated: join internet server, the gnu.ethz.ch one |
| 19:33.28 | Phated | tarzeau: Ehm.. I did. |
| 19:33.44 | jharrisonwk | and she said it was planted on her |
| 19:33.47 | tarzeau | Phated: YAY :) |
| 19:33.57 | tarzeau | Phated: i'm the golden cutie |
| 19:34.03 | Phated | tarzeau: Eh, sure. :) |
| 19:34.04 | Seb | jharrisonwk: yeah and the terrorist who killed 200 people with a bomb in the club got 30 months |
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| 19:34.33 | jharrisonwk | Seb: yeah |
| 19:34.41 | jharrisonwk | I would say indonesia is a bit wacky |
| 19:34.46 | dondelelcaro | welcome to "War On Drugs," population: You. |
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| 19:35.08 | Seb | jharrisonwk: sure is |
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| 19:35.13 | Seb | dondelelcaro: :) |
| 19:35.17 | jharrisonwk | we got some hommies here who get 2 days for 9 tons of weed |
| 19:35.25 | Seb | heheheh |
| 19:35.31 | Seb | jharrisonwk: where ya live ? |
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| 19:36.37 | jharrisonwk | bahamas |
| 19:36.46 | Seb | i wonder how many years one could smoke with 9 tons of weed |
| 19:36.49 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: haha, read bananas now ;) |
| 19:36.55 | Seb | assuming a serious daily consumption |
| 19:37.01 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: ? |
| 19:37.13 | Seb | hrm, at 5 grams a day, that |
| 19:37.17 | Phated | tarzeau: I am teh lagging. |
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| 19:37.45 | jharrisonwk | if you get caught with an acre of weed you get 2 years here |
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| 19:37.56 | takatumi | Phated: that's why I gave up on it. |
| 19:37.56 | Seb | 'd last for 4931 years |
| 19:37.58 | jharrisonwk | or 100 acres = 2 years too |
| 19:37.59 | Seb | wowo |
| 19:38.14 | Seb | better invite some friends over or we'll never see the end of it, hehe |
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| 19:38.20 | tarzeau | Phated: owww, but can you tell how fun this is? and that other people should join? |
| 19:38.32 | _joey | I modified and installed a package, how do I configure dpkg from upgrading it. I want to keep it |
| 19:38.39 | Phated | tarzeau: Not unless you fix the lagginess. |
| 19:38.46 | Seb | _joey: dpkg --set-selections |
| 19:38.56 | _joey | thanks |
| 19:39.03 | tarzeau | Phated: teh intarnet! |
| 19:39.05 | Seb | echo package hold | dpkg --set-selctions |
| 19:39.15 | Phated | tarzeau: <shrug> It's cute. |
| 19:39.16 | Seb | _joey: or maybe echo hold package |
| 19:39.18 | jharrisonwk | Seb: why would you want the end |
| 19:39.33 | Seb | jharrisonwk: i was just saying :) |
| 19:39.34 | jharrisonwk | I can smell a plant growing near my place |
| 19:39.39 | Seb | haha |
| 19:39.46 | Seb | must be a fat ass one man |
| 19:39.48 | jharrisonwk | Seb: I found it the other day |
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| 19:43.39 | Seb | slow day huh |
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| 19:44.01 | paulswm | tarzeau: I can't figure out how to get movement keys to work |
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| 19:45.08 | tarzeau | paulswm: klick a dragon |
| 19:45.19 | tarzeau | paulswm: then press the keys for the small arrow it animates |
| 19:45.32 | paulswm | I did, but it's not doing anything :( |
| 19:45.39 | simonrvn | click a dragon? |
| 19:45.46 | tarzeau | simonrvn: http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 19:45.53 | tarzeau | paulswm: with the mouse? |
| 19:45.54 | simonrvn | oh, ok |
| 19:46.01 | tarzeau | paulswm: are you in our game even? |
| 19:46.05 | paulswm | tarzeau: it just keeps flashing '>>' |
| 19:46.10 | paulswm | tarzeau: yes |
| 19:46.13 | tarzeau | paulswm: click it first |
| 19:46.17 | tarzeau | paulswm: mouse button broken? |
| 19:46.26 | tarzeau | paulswm: you need to click a free dragon from the bottom |
| 19:46.30 | Phated | tarzeau: It doesn't flash unless you've already clicked it. |
| 19:46.36 | tarzeau | paulswm: and then the keys for left,right,jump and shoot |
| 19:46.47 | tarzeau | Phated: ah |
| 19:46.50 | Seb | we need to renmae this channel |
| 19:47.00 | Phated | Or MOVE to an already existing channel. |
| 19:47.07 | paulswm | just keeps flashing '>>' |
| 19:47.21 | paulswm | Sorry, ot, I'll stop |
| 19:47.22 | Seb | Phated: you mean the people not playing should move ? :> |
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| 19:47.27 | takatumi | who's flashing? where? |
| 19:47.31 | Seb | haha |
| 19:47.37 | Phated | The people not playing really don't need to bother, do they. |
| 19:47.39 | tarzeau | paulswm: #bub-n-bros |
| 19:47.46 | tarzeau | takatumi: http://bub-n-bros.sf.net the dragons |
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| 19:48.43 | coywolf | i use ssmtp now, but I want to send out mails from the local temporarily, should I install other MTA? any way to work around this? |
| 19:49.29 | shingouz | *another* wolf? damn :) |
| 19:49.47 | Phated | He's been here longer, though. The furry is simply more... obvious about his presence. |
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| 19:50.06 | shingouz | true. and the we have CrAzY too |
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| 19:50.20 | Phated | We have CrAzIeS. |
| 19:50.24 | Phated | Several of them. |
| 19:50.26 | coywolf | what's wrong |
| 19:50.27 | shingouz | wolf that is :) |
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| 19:50.38 | shingouz | coywolf: just pulling your tail, nothing else |
| 19:50.43 | Phated | Heh. |
| 19:50.55 | coywolf | shingouz, you won't forget my name i guess |
| 19:50.58 | shingouz | coywolf: theres at least two other of your kind here, furry and CrAzY |
| 19:51.29 | coywolf | shingouz, furrywolf always pokes me he sees me |
| 19:51.40 | coywolf | ^when |
| 19:51.43 | shingouz | coywolf: he pokes everyone else too for that matter |
| 19:51.48 | james__ | does LVM come with a performance hit? |
| 19:52.03 | Phated | He should be careful he doesn't get declawed with a rusty scalpel. |
| 19:52.04 | takatumi | tarzeau: I think I bubbled you. |
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| 19:52.11 | Phated | Sorry, de-headed. |
| 19:52.16 | simonrvn | nah, not that i noticed. but this was on UW SCSI-3 |
| 19:52.20 | Seb | beheaded ? |
| 19:52.25 | shingouz | Phated: or taken to the vet for a special visit :p |
| 19:52.27 | simonrvn | james__: ^^^^ |
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| 19:52.47 | Phated | Or fucked in the eyesockets with his broken femur bones until he dies from loss of blood. |
| 19:53.04 | shingouz | Phated: you are in a nasty mood tonight :) |
| 19:53.10 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 19:53.23 | Phated | shingouz: I was not the originator of that particular... action. |
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| 19:53.50 | grigora | anyone knows how to allow a user access to ftp, but disallow all the other access (e.g. ssh) thanks |
| 19:53.54 | shingouz | Phated: i am not going to pick a fight with you, that is for sure ;) |
| 19:54.01 | Phated | shingouz: Smart lad. |
| 19:54.02 | yaccobb | when I try add new item in boot-admin, OS ComboBox is emtpy. Even comboboxes in editation have no items... Seem like some kind of bug. Is it ? |
| 19:54.06 | shingouz | lad? |
| 19:54.08 | Seb | grigora: don't give him a shell |
| 19:54.09 | hardcampa- | shingouz heh he can't be more than 8 anyway |
| 19:54.12 | Phated | Seb: Lass? |
| 19:54.22 | Phated | Ahem. |
| 19:54.24 | Phated | shingouz: Lass? |
| 19:54.24 | Seb | ? |
| 19:54.27 | Phated | Seb: Sorry. |
| 19:54.27 | tarzeau | takatumi: which are you? |
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| 19:54.34 | Seb | Phated: t's all good |
| 19:54.35 | takatumi | tarzeau: blue |
| 19:54.38 | grigora | Seb: well I tried setting the default shell to /bin/false, but then they could not even get to vsftp? |
| 19:54.48 | shingouz | Phated: lad is not the correct term, i think geezer would be more like it |
| 19:54.56 | Seb | grigora: i didn't think fpt required a valid shell |
| 19:55.01 | Phated | shingouz: Yes, grampy. |
| 19:55.15 | Seb | grigora: but I'm sure this has got to be in a FAQ for the FTP server you're using |
| 19:55.17 | shingouz | Phated: now it sounds better |
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| 19:55.33 | FieldySnuts | set the shell to /bin/nologin . you might have to snag that off a rh sys if you aint' got it but it'll let people use ftp but not log in |
| 19:55.37 | tarzeau | takatumi: heh :) we're in #bub-n-bros |
| 19:55.56 | thaswiftness | if i downloaded a kernel-image from apt-get, and ive been using it, can i download the same version of the source and use make oldconfig to customize the kernel im using? |
| 19:56.13 | shingouz | ok, off to the store to get some smokes |
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| 19:56.26 | thomas_adam | thaswiftness: Yes. |
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| 19:56.50 | Phated | Eeep. |
| 19:56.53 | Wille88_ | does sarge support nfsv4? |
| 19:56.58 | thomas_adam | thaswiftness: But you'd be including (potentiallu) superfluous options, inherent in using a stock kernel config file. |
| 19:57.03 | coywolf | i use ssmtp now, but I want to send out mails from the local temporarily, should I install other MTA? any way to work around this? |
| 19:57.20 | thomas_adam | coywolf: You want to queue the mails before they're sent? |
| 19:57.33 | thaswiftness | thomas_adam, can i run make xconfig after make oldconfig to take out or put in more options? |
| 19:57.42 | FieldySnuts | :) |
| 19:57.43 | thomas_adam | thaswiftness: If you must. |
| 19:57.49 | coywolf | thomas_adam, i want to send them from my localhost, not a remote smart host |
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| 19:58.22 | smo_ | hi |
| 19:58.34 | thomas_adam | coywolf: Right, and? |
| 19:58.36 | thaswiftness | the reason im asking is because i tried just going from the kernel source of 2.6.11 from 2.4 and i must have missed something when configuring because it wouldnt boot, so then i just grabbed the image |
| 19:58.40 | Phated | FieldySnuts: It's saturday morning! :P |
| 19:59.01 | thomas_adam | thaswiftness: The 2.4 config -> 2.6 is not really compatible. |
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| 19:59.03 | coywolf | thomas_adam, I use ssmtp is used to send mails through a smart host, but this time, i want to send them out locally |
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| 19:59.09 | FieldySnuts | feh |
| 19:59.10 | thaswiftness | ah |
| 19:59.18 | thomas_adam | coywolf: So configure your MTA to handle that. |
| 19:59.18 | Phated | FieldySnuts: seh! |
| 19:59.22 | FieldySnuts | !prize Phated |
| 19:59.33 | Phated | Coo, a beer! |
| 19:59.39 | coywolf | thomas_adam, so should I install another MTA to do that? can ssmtp do that alone? |
| 19:59.40 | Seb | hmmmm, Guinness |
| 19:59.42 | thaswiftness | thanks thomas_adam |
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| 19:59.58 | thomas_adam | coywolf: I don't use ssmtp, I use 'nullmailer', but I suppose it might. |
| 19:59.59 | Blissex | thaswiftness: you should be using proper Debian precompile binaries, 2.6.x config is a bit more subtle than 2.4x. |
| 20:00.03 | thomas_adam | thaswiftness: You're welcome. |
| 20:00.44 | coywolf | thomas_adam, the problem is that two MTA can't be present at the same time, i must to uninstall the current one to use an new one |
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| 20:01.13 | thomas_adam | coywolf: I'm aware of that -- RTFM, and other relevant docs for your chosen nullmailer, then. |
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| 20:03.16 | Skrylar | What's the package to get for a Neomagic 128 2mb video card? I'm out of luck trying to google it. |
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| 20:03.26 | FieldySnuts | @start an mta war |
| 20:03.26 | ravenbird_ | postfix owns |
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| 20:03.45 | thomas_adam | Skrylar: "Package"? |
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| 20:04.12 | Skrylar | thomas_adam: as in the "apt-get" package for the drivers |
| 20:04.27 | thaswiftness | thomas_adam, how can i like, change the name of the kernel im installing, so if i mess up the config i can still boot to the current 2.6 kernel im using? there something in a makefile to change or something? |
| 20:04.45 | Skrylar | thomas_adam: it apparently isn't running with the drivers because when i go to move windows around it's choppy, while in Windows it didn't do that before |
| 20:04.53 | coywolf | !ssmtp |
| 20:04.54 | dpkg | well, ssmtp is an extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mailhub |
| 20:04.56 | Blissex | thaswiftness: yes, and you need to read the kernel compilation HOWTO then. |
| 20:05.05 | Blissex | thaswiftness: but again, just use a Debian precompiled kernel. |
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| 20:05.29 | coywolf | can I switch b/w two MTAs? |
| 20:05.42 | Blissex | coywolf: sure, if you know how :-) |
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| 20:05.49 | coywolf | Blissex, tell me |
| 20:05.51 | grigora | anyone knows how make vsftp logins work while setting a user's default shell to /bin/false? |
| 20:06.00 | Blissex | coywolf: define «switch» |
| 20:06.46 | coywolf | Blissex, i want to send out mails from localhost only this time, after this, I still use ssmtp to send mails to a mail hub |
| 20:06.56 | FieldySnuts | like I said before, grab /sbin/nologin off a rh system or something, add it to /etc/shells, and use that as the shell. they can then ftp in, and that's it |
| 20:07.18 | Blissex | coywolf: that's not awesomely clear... |
| 20:07.20 | coywolf | Blissex, ssmtp only send mails to a hub, that's what I don't like |
| 20:07.27 | peritus | grigora: take a look in /etc/pam.d/vsftpd |
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| 20:07.37 | Blissex | coywolf: so why dont you use a simple 'exim4' config>? |
| 20:07.54 | Blissex | coywolf: one that says ''local messages delivered locally, everything else to smart host?'' |
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| 20:08.04 | simonrvn | exim-daaemon-light, and a simple conf |
| 20:08.05 | grigora | FieldySnuts: how come debian does not have nologin? |
| 20:08.13 | FieldySnuts | no idea |
| 20:08.14 | simonrvn | s/aa/a/ |
| 20:08.20 | coywolf | Blissex, and exim4 and ssmtp be installed at the same time? |
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| 20:08.26 | coywolf | Blissex, Can exim4 and ssmtp be installed at the same time? |
| 20:08.26 | Blissex | coywolf: the 'exim4' package comes with a misguided but helpful autoconfigurator that handles well that kind of stuff. |
| 20:08.41 | tynd | hrm, with apt, i only see request-tracker1/3 but i need to install request-tracker2. am i blind? |
| 20:08.44 | Skrylar | thomas_adam: any ideas? |
| 20:08.48 | Blissex | coywolf: yes, and then you setup one or the other to start. As in -not running at the same time-. |
| 20:08.57 | FieldySnuts | maybe you can find it in source code somewhere (nologin.c) |
| 20:09.05 | Blissex | coywolf: but if you use 'exim4' why use 'ssmtp' too? |
| 20:09.09 | thomas_adam | Skrylar: No. Sorry. |
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| 20:09.21 | bemyguest | _ |
| 20:09.26 | grigora | peritus: so what would I change pam_shells.so to? I am assuming that's the problem. |
| 20:09.33 | coywolf | Blissex, but exim4 wil overwrite ssmtp files |
| 20:09.44 | Blissex | coywolf: why? |
| 20:09.49 | coywolf | Blissex, for instanace, sendmail |
| 20:09.49 | peritus | grigora: comment it out and it won't check for a valid shell |
| 20:09.54 | bemyguest | openoffice 1.9....someone knows...? |
| 20:10.05 | Blissex | coywolf: check the ''alternatives'' system. |
| 20:10.05 | FieldySnuts | can you ask a real question? |
| 20:10.09 | coywolf | Blissex, i want to use exim4 for once, other times, use ssmtp |
| 20:10.18 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: vague? |
| 20:10.18 | dpkg | Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 20:10.38 | bemyguest | i mean the tar.gz inside has rpm....and i do not wnt that |
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| 20:10.44 | bemyguest | i want the ./setup |
| 20:10.45 | coywolf | Blissex, alternatives don't work on /usr/lib/sendmail |
| 20:10.46 | simonrvn | that's not vague, that's irritating |
| 20:11.08 | FieldySnuts | read their docs then, we're not an openoffice support channel (and definately not an .rpm support channel) |
| 20:11.08 | grigora | peritus: thanks, I assume doing so won't open any security holes in my system, right? |
| 20:11.20 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: heh, !irritate then |
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| 20:11.26 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 20:11.29 | thaswiftness | anyone else have a problem with nvidia? nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel |
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| 20:11.54 | FieldySnuts | yes, that's normal, nvidia is binary therefore taints the kernel |
| 20:12.02 | caphuso | thaswiftness: that's not a problem |
| 20:12.02 | FieldySnuts | heh, i said taint |
| 20:12.04 | peritus | grigora: it will only disable the check for a valid login-shell, and therefore make it possible to ftp to all local accounts _with_ a password set |
| 20:12.16 | FieldySnuts | that is a warning, not an actual error |
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| 20:12.33 | grigora | peritus: sounds good, thanks |
| 20:12.35 | Blissex | thaswiftness: perhaqps you would like to read this as to asking more useful questions: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 |
| 20:12.42 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: was more that vague factoid would be more aptly called "how to make yourself as irritating as possible when asking for help" =) |
| 20:12.57 | FieldySnuts | hehe |
| 20:13.10 | Blissex | bemyguest: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 as to asking questions in a useful way |
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| 20:13.40 | FieldySnuts | agreed. it's not supposed to be an insult, either |
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| 20:16.18 | chealer | Wille88_: NFS v4 is under development |
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| 20:17.46 | FieldySnuts | eternal development |
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| 20:18.33 | flcpge | ? |
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| 20:19.31 | gogo3or | how to check what distro i have got on remote host |
| 20:19.50 | Wille88_ | chealer: yeah. I know, but nfsv3 isn't working on my machine :P |
| 20:19.57 | Blissex | FieldySnuts: to mention «eternal development» is a bit foot-in-mouth in a Debian channel :-) |
| 20:20.11 | CrAzYWolF | http://www.aboutdebian.com/network.htm |
| 20:20.22 | CrAzYWolF | for anyone that needs that info |
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| 20:21.26 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a badger war |
| 20:21.27 | dpkg | FieldySnuts suck compared to mushrooms |
| 20:21.29 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 20:21.39 | FieldySnuts | hehe |
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| 20:23.23 | Blissex | bah! I am perplexed. The more I use Konqueror under Debian the bigger it grows, under SUSE it almost stays constant size. |
| 20:23.47 | FieldySnuts | and? |
| 20:24.15 | Blissex | well, I wanted to share a moment of perplexity. |
| 20:24.22 | tarzeau | paulswm, Phated :) |
| 20:24.28 | Phated | Hm? |
| 20:24.38 | tarzeau | someone should record a busy game using xvidcap |
| 20:24.39 | FieldySnuts | fuckers |
| 20:24.40 | FieldySnuts | wrong chn |
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| 20:25.12 | Blissex | however I must confess that using the Debian ''unmentionable'' 3.4.0 KDE packages, so I cant really complain... |
| 20:25.24 | tynd | is there an archive of old debian packages? |
| 20:25.49 | tarzeau | tynd: snapshots.d.? |
| 20:25.53 | stew | tynd: /msg dpkg sdn |
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| 20:26.44 | tarzeau | !seen greycat |
| 20:26.45 | dpkg | greycat <rfc1413@wooledge.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 23h 45m 11s ago, saying: 'caonex: well, you have to fix your configuration.'. |
| 20:26.50 | silverton | okay, I just installed dhcp and it isn't in /etc/init.d/ |
| 20:27.01 | tarzeau | would anyone mind me redirect from debian-faq right to debian-faq-wiki ? |
| 20:27.14 | jeff99 | if i have an AMD Athlon, which kernel-image should i use? |
| 20:27.20 | tarzeau | jeff99: k7 |
| 20:27.21 | silverton | jeff99, K7 |
| 20:27.26 | jeff99 | thx |
| 20:27.42 | tynd | hrm, this is weird, debian never seemed to have a request-tracker2 package |
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| 20:27.49 | tynd | straight from 1 to 3? |
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| 20:28.18 | jeff99 | should i use kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 or kernel-image-2.6-k7 |
| 20:28.39 | Blissex | also, now that some people want to have ''volatile'' and ''sloppy'', why not rename existing stages? like 'stable' to 'cambrian', 'testing' to 'dreamtime' and 'unstable' to 'gotcha'? :-) |
| 20:28.47 | stew | !depends kernel-image-2.6-k7 sarge |
| 20:28.49 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6-k7: depends on kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 20:28.52 | stew | jeff99: they are the same |
| 20:29.05 | BiZARRE | Can somebody help me install php4, mysql, and apache on debian? |
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| 20:29.34 | cureless | BiZARRE: apt can help you out. |
| 20:29.38 | BiZARRE | I get a error when i use i.e apt-get php4 |
| 20:29.49 | cureless | BiZARRE: you mean apt-get install |
| 20:29.51 | Blissex | BiZARRE: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 as to how to ask questions.... |
| 20:29.55 | BiZARRE | aaaah |
| 20:30.02 | BiZARRE | thanks annyway =) |
| 20:30.05 | Blissex | BiZARRE: also, look at http://WWW.dotDeb.org/ |
| 20:30.14 | stew | BiZARRE: what error do you get? |
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| 20:30.44 | tzafrir_laptop | How do I make my gdm session a "login session" (source .bash_profile sometime)? |
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| 20:33.42 | tzafrir_laptop | On some other configurations, xterm is run with '-l' and I get some 15 "users" on my machine with a normal desktop session |
| 20:33.46 | Blissex | tzafrir_laptop: I suppose you are asking the wrong question here... |
| 20:33.46 | tzafrir_laptop | This looks bad |
| 20:34.03 | Phated | gdm uses .xsession, no? |
| 20:34.16 | tzafrir_laptop | Actually: not by default |
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| 20:34.22 | cureless | Phated: no |
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| 20:34.32 | Phated | I see. |
| 20:34.41 | tzafrir_laptop | You'll have to define a "custom" session file for that |
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| 20:37.01 | tzafrir_laptop | This started because I set DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL in ~/.bash_profile only to notice that the definition did not apply on next login |
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| 20:41.09 | gogo3or | lol |
| 20:41.22 | seldon | back to the roots? |
| 20:41.43 | coywolf | how to flush mailq? (exim4) |
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| 20:43.10 | BiZARRE | why cant I type my password when I try to login? |
| 20:43.46 | BiZARRE | I made it once, but I cant remember what key I hit to do it |
| 20:43.50 | Phated | BiZARRE: Your password isn't echoed to the console. |
| 20:44.01 | BiZARRE | what? |
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| 20:44.06 | paulswm | No bub-n-bros server *sniff* |
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| 20:44.20 | BiZARRE | well, how do I type in the password? |
| 20:44.27 | Seb | BiZARRE: you hit the keys one by one |
| 20:44.28 | Phated | With your keyboard? |
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| 20:44.35 | Seb | Phated: good too ;) |
| 20:44.44 | BiZARRE | yes, keyboard |
| 20:44.47 | Pumpkin_Pie | how can I safely unmount my file system so I can do a hard reboot? |
| 20:45.04 | Phated | You won't see it on your screen. |
| 20:45.05 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: it won't reboot with the reboot command ? |
| 20:45.09 | Seb | paulswm: fo sho |
| 20:45.12 | Pumpkin_Pie | Seb: no |
| 20:45.16 | BiZARRE | I have tryied to login in Putty too, but I cant type the password there either |
| 20:45.18 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: any idea why ? |
| 20:45.28 | Seb | BiZARRE: you mean it does't accept your password ? |
| 20:45.32 | Phated | BiZARRE: Define "can't type the password". |
| 20:45.38 | Seb | ah, guessing people's pb, always such a pleasure |
| 20:45.44 | paulswm | "admin" |
| 20:45.45 | FieldySnuts | pb? |
| 20:45.45 | shingoki | Anyone know a way to get the netinst installer to boot without having to press "ENTER" ? |
| 20:45.47 | Pumpkin_Pie | Seb: its some sort of recovery process im doing |
| 20:45.50 | BiZARRE | nothing happens when I hit the keys |
| 20:45.51 | Seb | FieldySnuts: problem |
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| 20:45.57 | TwistedEmotions | BiZARRE: You know it doesnt *SHOW* the password when you type right? |
| 20:45.58 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: some sort ? |
| 20:45.58 | Phated | BiZARRE: Nothing WILL happen. |
| 20:46.04 | shingoki | its just I only have a USB keyboard, and its not supported by bootloader AFAICT |
| 20:46.08 | paulswm | UNtil you hit 'enter' |
| 20:46.15 | Pumpkin_Pie | Seb: reboot doesn't work seb.. if you cant help dont |
| 20:46.15 | BiZARRE | the only key working is enter |
| 20:46.16 | BiZARRE | ok |
| 20:46.23 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: how does it not work ? |
| 20:46.25 | TwistedEmotions | BiZARRE: No *'s show up... no nothing... |
| 20:46.28 | Phated | BiZARRE: You won't see ANYTHING on the screen. |
| 20:46.33 | BiZARRE | ok |
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| 20:46.35 | FieldySnuts | say it 9 more times |
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| 20:46.37 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: and fucking define "some sort of recovery" if you expect help |
| 20:46.43 | TwistedEmotions | NOTHING! |
| 20:46.46 | FieldySnuts | !irritate Pumpkin_Pie |
| 20:46.47 | dpkg | Pumpkin_Pie: Y iz debain so old? where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol kthx |
| 20:46.48 | TwistedEmotions | ABYSS! |
| 20:46.58 | Pumpkin_Pie | Seb: I asked a very specific question.. you're going off topic |
| 20:47.18 | MobyTurbo | shingoki: I use a USB keyboard. Enable "USB legacy support" in your BIOS. |
| 20:47.23 | FieldySnuts | i feel a crazy 3 day weekend upcoming (for some parts of the world but sunday will surely be bad here) |
| 20:47.24 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: sync, mount -o remount,ro, / |
| 20:47.31 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: best approach I guess |
| 20:47.42 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: still doesn't explain why one would do something stupid like that |
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| 20:47.57 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: or how "reboot doesn't work" |
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| 20:48.08 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: so much for the specificities of your questioning |
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| 20:48.24 | Seb | FieldySnuts: how so ? |
| 20:48.25 | Pumpkin_Pie | that doesn't make sense |
| 20:48.30 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: Do you really still need reasons for when people do stupid things? |
| 20:48.31 | shingoki | MobyTurbo, I can't get to bios since I have no PS2 port, it's broken :( |
| 20:48.40 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: I guess some part of me still does |
| 20:48.45 | colter | Im going to upgrade to Sarge this weekend. I've been using courier-pop3 to access mail so far, but I'm not sure I should stick to it. Has it been superseded by anything "better" yet? |
| 20:48.46 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: some part I wish I could control |
| 20:48.47 | shingoki | MobyTurbo, I'm pretty sure if the installer would actually boot, it would use its own USB support and work |
| 20:48.48 | TwistedEmotions | Pumpkin_Pie: run init 6 as root |
| 20:48.48 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: :] |
| 20:48.56 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: heh ;) |
| 20:49.06 | MobyTurbo | shingoki: why do you need a PS/2 port to enter your BIOS configuration screen? |
| 20:49.13 | TwistedEmotions | shingoki: USB KEyboard? |
| 20:49.13 | Pumpkin_Pie | Seb: stfu if you never wanted to answer my question |
| 20:49.25 | shingoki | MobyTurbo, To press "del" and then use the bios menus? |
| 20:49.25 | Seb | !comfort Pumpkin_Pie |
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| 20:49.26 | dpkg | There, there, Pumpkin_Pie. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 20:49.28 | FieldySnuts | troll. |
| 20:49.34 | shingoki | TwistedEmotions, yup I only have usb KB |
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| 20:49.44 | MobyTurbo | shingoki: to press del, f1, or f10 typically. |
| 20:49.46 | TwistedEmotions | Pumpkin_Pie: if you dont like the answer... then shutup and leave... try #windows |
| 20:49.49 | yonaro | hi * |
| 20:49.52 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: note that I did answer you you motherfucker |
| 20:49.54 | FieldySnuts | !win TwistedEmotions |
| 20:49.55 | dpkg | Congratulations, TwistedEmotions! You have won a one way ticket to Fire Island! |
| 20:49.56 | MobyTurbo | shingoki: they work with my USB keyboard... |
| 20:49.58 | Pumpkin_Pie | Seb: it was a very simple very specific question and you're going all awol with random bull shit |
| 20:50.05 | TwistedEmotions | shingoki: most motherboard support USB Keyboards... |
| 20:50.06 | shingoki | MobyTurbo, I will try that, I have a feeling it doesn't work though |
| 20:50.14 | shingoki | its a really really old mobo |
| 20:50.15 | yonaro | Some body know a irc channel of chemistry???? |
| 20:50.16 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: I *ficking* *told* *ya** *how* to _do_ *it* |
| 20:50.19 | FieldySnuts | eh this place is too lame right now bbl *bites Phated* |
| 20:50.20 | TwistedEmotions | FieldySnuts: WEeeeee.. |
| 20:50.27 | beardy | Pumpkin_Pie: If all else fails, and magic_sysrq is compiled in the kernel, you can use that, Alt-PrintScreen SUB (Sync Unmount reBoot) (Alt-PrintScreen z for help) |
| 20:50.28 | FieldySnuts | be back tuesday |
| 20:50.32 | Pumpkin_Pie | Seb: yeah and after you told me you kept giving me a hard time... |
| 20:50.35 | TwistedEmotions | FieldySnuts: later. |
| 20:50.39 | MobyTurbo | !permasunday |
| 20:50.39 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 20:50.42 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: so /part and go do it |
| 20:50.42 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:51.16 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: pumpkin pie ain't that fresh huh ? :> |
| 20:51.17 | shingoki | yup, worst BIOS ever... you can get into menu with USB kb, but then you can't use the menus |
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| 20:51.22 | shingoki | Makes you think, doesn't it? |
| 20:51.27 | Seb | shingoki: :D |
| 20:51.47 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: someone needs to ban the giant orange vegatable. |
| 20:51.49 | Pumpkin_Pie | Sub = drama queen |
| 20:51.56 | shingoki | ubuntu installer has a 15 second timeout, then it boots anyway, I think |
| 20:51.57 | Pumpkin_Pie | Seb = drama queen |
| 20:51.57 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: agreed |
| 20:52.03 | shingoki | I know I managed to install it, anyway :) |
| 20:52.06 | shingoki | but I wanted real debian :)] |
| 20:52.07 | FieldySnuts | @ops Pumpkin_Pie is trolling |
| 20:52.08 | ravenbird_ | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Pumpkin_Pie is trolling |
| 20:52.11 | TwistedEmotions | shingoki: go buy a 5$ keyboard or borrow fron someone. |
| 20:52.21 | Seb | Pumpkin_Pie: can you feel it coming ? |
| 20:52.26 | shingoki | its not the KB, its the fact that the PS2 port is broken |
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| 20:52.51 | dondelelcaro | Pumpkin_Pie: if you're having a problem with someone, antagonizing them is not the thing to do. Use /ignore. |
| 20:52.55 | dondelelcaro | Seb: likewise. |
| 20:53.05 | Seb | this @ops operator sure is handy, didn't know this one |
| 20:53.26 | TwistedEmotions | yeah watch... |
| 20:53.39 | TwistedEmotions | .@ops dondelelcaro is having sex with a donkey. |
| 20:53.45 | TwistedEmotions | See... |
| 20:53.54 | BiZARRE | Is there any packet that I can download, so I can browse my Debian server from another computer via my webbrowser? |
| 20:53.59 | dondelelcaro | that'll be a productive union |
| 20:53.59 | TwistedEmotions | now hell get to be a OP. |
| 20:54.04 | TwistedEmotions | hahaha |
| 20:54.06 | Seb | dondelelcaro: roger. Note to self, do not answer stupiid trolling questions |
| 20:54.08 | TwistedEmotions | don_inlab: ;) |
| 20:54.20 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: ;) |
| 20:54.22 | TwistedEmotions | Errr.. |
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| 20:54.26 | TwistedEmotions | don_inlab: ignore. |
| 20:54.35 | Phated | They're the same. :) |
| 20:54.37 | MobyTurbo | man, not only is this permasunday, it's even worse than sunday |
| 20:54.38 | Seb | BiZARRE: apache ? |
| 20:54.44 | TwistedEmotions | Are they? |
| 20:54.55 | Phated | Yeah, don_inlab is when dondelelcaro is at work. |
| 20:54.56 | dondelelcaro | MobyTurbo: It's Friday: Sunday Special Edition |
| 20:54.58 | BiZARRE | I have installed apache, but how do I browse it then? |
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| 20:55.13 | dondelelcaro | yeah, save now, it's just me at the other machine |
| 20:55.15 | MobyTurbo | dondelelcaro: special as in special olympics |
| 20:55.15 | BiZARRE | I want full controll over the server, if you know what I mean? |
| 20:55.27 | dondelelcaro | MobyTurbo: no, even more special than that |
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| 20:55.40 | robin_sz | meep? |
| 20:55.45 | Seb | BiZARRE: webmin |
| 20:55.46 | dondelelcaro | BiZARRE: uh, you don't want to use your web browser for that. ssh into the machine and control it that way |
| 20:56.03 | BiZARRE | ok |
| 20:56.04 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: you are more evil then I would have ever figured. WITH 2 dondelelcaro's you can take over the WORLD. |
| 20:56.06 | Seb | dondelelcaro: oh I cna tell ya right now, he does want webmin |
| 20:56.25 | MobyTurbo | !webmin |
| 20:56.25 | dpkg | somebody said webmin was a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 20:56.33 | beardy | BiZARRE: We don't know what you mean. Use ssh. If you must, some unsafe web-admin interface.. |
| 20:56.37 | robin_sz | webmin is only ffor non sysadmins who have accidentally been given root |
| 20:56.54 | BiZARRE | But, I want my computer online. I want it to host files for the web, and I have installed apache.. What more do I need to do? |
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| 20:57.42 | TwistedEmotions | BiZARRE: ask it nicely. And feed it raw steak. |
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| 20:57.45 | colter | what will be the default pop3 server in Sarge? |
| 20:58.03 | TwistedEmotions | BiZARRE: or set it up... |
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| 20:58.15 | MobyTurbo | colter: there is no default pop3 server, the default SMTP MTA is exim4 |
| 20:58.21 | BiZARRE | I thought I was asking nicely.. but sorry then |
| 20:58.24 | TwistedEmotions | colter: What? |
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| 20:58.49 | TwistedEmotions | BiZARRE: not ask US nicely.. ASK the COMPUTER nicely... and feed the computer raw steaks. |
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| 20:59.11 | colter | MobyTurbo: ah. I was planning to stick to exim when upgrading to sarge anyway, any reason why I should ditch courier-pop3? |
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| 20:59.19 | delphi | Hi, if I install ntp via apt-get install, do I automatically have a ntp "server" or do I have to configure it first? |
| 20:59.43 | MobyTurbo | colter: you can use whatever you want, if you don't like the defaults Debian has plenty of alternatives. |
| 21:00.22 | beardy | BiZARRE: Create a directory called 'public_html' in your users homedirectory. Use a browser, go to http://yourbox/~username. Then read the manual, and maybe some howto, if you are going to serve files from somewhere else. |
| 21:00.23 | TwistedEmotions | BiZARRE: dpkg-reconfigure apache |
| 21:00.23 | paulswm | Seb: I had to chop it a bit... |
| 21:00.23 | paulswm | !qotd78 |
| 21:00.23 | dpkg | qotd78 is probably <BiZARRE> why cant I type my password when I try to login? <Phated> BiZARRE: Your password isn't echoed to the console. <BiZARRE> what? <BiZARRE> well, how do I type in the password? <Seb> BiZARRE: you hit the keys one by one <BiZARRE> nothing happens when I hit the keys <paulswm> UNtil you hit 'enter' <BiZARRE> the only key working is enter <BiZARRE> ok |
| 21:00.24 | colter | MobyTurbo: I'm trying to find out which alternative to decide for... |
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| 21:00.43 | alys | colter: you may want to try IMAP rather than POP it has many advantages... |
| 21:00.48 | MobyTurbo | colter: although I know a little about MTAs, I don't know anything about POP3 servers. |
| 21:01.15 | colter | MobyTurbo: same here :( |
| 21:01.23 | TwistedEmotions | BiZARRE: Have you already configured apache? |
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| 21:01.30 | BiZARRE | yes |
| 21:01.33 | MobyTurbo | qpop appears popular |
| 21:01.41 | ryan` | if I 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' on a box configured to use stable updates, after sarge comes out, will my box be updated to sarge? |
| 21:01.50 | TwistedEmotions | BiZARRE: then what are you asking? |
| 21:01.51 | colter | alys: I was thinking about that too, guess I'll go for it anyway |
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| 21:02.13 | Seb | paulswm: greeeeat :] |
| 21:02.16 | TwistedEmotions | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.18 | MobyTurbo | ryan`: the upgrade docs recommend aptitude |
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| 21:02.31 | BiZARRE | Im going to try |
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| 21:02.39 | MobyTurbo | ryan`: I've dist-upgraded with apt-get though and it was smooth for me, but I didn't have much installed at the time. |
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| 21:02.44 | alys | colter: all the best - I have no need for IMAP as a server, but I use it to download mail and Exim does a fine enough job as an MTA - I like it as much as you. |
| 21:02.56 | robin_sz | ooh, DUCKS! |
| 21:03.02 | BiZARRE | but I dont know how to create the 'public_html' folder by command |
| 21:03.06 | tarzeau | it's weekend after all |
| 21:03.11 | tarzeau | !folder |
| 21:03.11 | dpkg | from memory, folder is a directory damn it! or near My Computer and Network Neighborhood, or the things you put in a filing cabinet |
| 21:03.17 | robin_sz | BiZARRE: really? |
| 21:03.18 | tarzeau | !mkdirslap BiZARRE |
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| 21:03.27 | hypz | ]/msg nickserv identify ecyoj |
| 21:03.29 | shingoki | directories were called folders before windows 95 |
| 21:03.32 | tarzeau | hypz: hahahhaa |
| 21:03.35 | EvanCarroll | hahhahaha |
| 21:03.36 | shingoki | its not just a dumb windows thing |
| 21:03.37 | hypz | hehe |
| 21:03.37 | tarzeau | hypz: now be fast |
| 21:03.39 | TwistedEmotions | BiZARRE: you dont know how to create a directory? |
| 21:03.42 | tarzeau | or i'll take it awaz |
| 21:03.43 | ryan` | hypz: time to change your password. |
| 21:03.44 | hypz | yeas that was studid |
| 21:03.44 | EvanCarroll | hahahhahaha smooth move hypz ecyoj |
| 21:03.45 | smo_ | how can i create a small starting script with just one command to start it?? |
| 21:03.51 | hypz | jep |
| 21:03.51 | BiZARRE | not in command mode |
| 21:03.51 | smo_ | can t find good tuto |
| 21:03.58 | BiZARRE | Im new at linux |
| 21:04.02 | robin_sz | BiZARRE: really, if you dont know how to create a directory, you need to learn and fast |
| 21:04.03 | hypz | hehehe |
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| 21:04.11 | Seb | BiZARRE: really ? |
| 21:04.20 | BiZARRE | well, where can I learn it? |
| 21:04.25 | shingoki | BiZARRE, try googliong for something like "bash for dos users" |
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| 21:04.28 | robin_sz | BiZARRE: mkdir <folder name> |
| 21:04.33 | BiZARRE | thnaks |
| 21:04.36 | mutante | smo_: man alias |
| 21:04.43 | Seb | smo_: what kind of "starting script" ? |
| 21:04.43 | BiZARRE | tanks |
| 21:04.45 | mutante | eh, alias --help |
| 21:04.50 | Seb | smo_: do you mean startup script ? |
| 21:04.52 | seldon | BiZARRE: Type "info" on the console. |
| 21:04.52 | shingoki | BiZARRE, http://www.scrounge.org/linux/doshelp.html |
| 21:04.53 | TwistedEmotions | BiZARRE: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide |
| 21:04.59 | ryan` | hypz, I always make an alias to identify myself when i type /id |
| 21:05.02 | BiZARRE | thanks all =) |
| 21:05.03 | robin_sz | BiZARRE: there are many many guides to linux out there, its easy once you get started |
| 21:05.04 | MobyTurbo | shingoki: MS-DOS even called them directories, as they are called in all Unix docs. Maybe Mac people called them folders. |
| 21:05.25 | shingoki | mac, and I think AmigaDOS |
| 21:05.28 | Seb | ryan`: mine inclues a ghost command for good measure ;( |
| 21:05.31 | Seb | i mean ;) |
| 21:05.46 | Seb | MobyTurbo: mos definitely |
| 21:05.46 | shingoki | AmigaDOS was my first real OS, back before any of that windows crap |
| 21:05.55 | shingoki | so don't disrespect folders :) |
| 21:06.02 | pipeline | AmigaDOS isn't a real OS in any meaningful sense. |
| 21:06.06 | pipeline | Real men ran AMIX |
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| 21:06.27 | TwistedEmotions | shingoki: you still run AmigaDOS? |
| 21:06.28 | jhares | i used ext3rminator but what with these files? 000fadad-004891e4 |
| 21:06.29 | paulswm | My first OS was the one running on a Ferranti Sirius, can't remember if it had a name |
| 21:06.31 | smo_ | i have a soft for onlien gaming an xbox ps2.... named kaid when launch it in console it s ok just with kaid -d -s -c /etc/config/kaid.conf to laucn and killall -9 kaid to stop i want to automate it from init.d |
| 21:06.34 | MobyTurbo | pipeline: didn't Minix have an Amiga port? |
| 21:06.43 | shingoki | AmigaDOS was good enough for me, I was too busy preemptive multitasking and using hi res GUI stuff to worry :) |
| 21:06.44 | robin_sz | the "read manual" command is good especially in "real fast" mode |
| 21:06.51 | pipeline | MobyTurbo: Maybe a userspace one. AMIX was true-blue SVR4 for high-end Amigas, though. |
| 21:07.11 | shingoki | TwistedEmotions, I run an emu every now and then, I still have my amigas, but they are a pain to actually run :) |
| 21:07.15 | ryan` | anyone have any recomendations for configuring debian to automaticaly install security updates? |
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| 21:07.16 | pipeline | shingoki: Yeah, who needs multiuser or memory protection when you have 4096 colors. |
| 21:07.25 | shingoki | pipeline, exactly! |
| 21:07.34 | MobyTurbo | pipeline: my first OSs were Apple DOS and CP/M, both of which didn't have directories. |
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| 21:07.55 | MobyTurbo | pipeline: though PRO-DOS did... I only used it to boot appleworks |
| 21:07.58 | pipeline | MobyTurbo: MacOS didn't originally have directories, either. They were added as a hack, much like DOS. |
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| 21:08.03 | paulswm | You bunch of kids, you prolly never used an OS which had only paper tape input and output :P |
| 21:08.08 | shingoki | lol |
| 21:08.15 | MobyTurbo | pipeline: yes, MS-DOS was originally a CP/M clone. |
| 21:08.17 | pipeline | paulswm: What system was that? That's highly unusual. |
| 21:08.18 | shingoki | I had to learn about pdp11's in stupid comuter course |
| 21:08.29 | gogo3or | how to add curl func. to apache i have instaled curl? |
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| 21:08.37 | paulswm | pipeline: The machine was a Ferranti Sirius, not unusual in 1968. |
| 21:08.38 | shingoki | stupid incredibly outdated UK computer courses |
| 21:08.38 | mutante | and did you keep the paper tapes in "folders"? ;) |
| 21:08.43 | shingoki | lol |
| 21:08.44 | pipeline | paulswm: Not many systems old enough to only have paper tape I/O even bothered with an OS. |
| 21:08.47 | smo_ | seb |
| 21:08.48 | MobyTurbo | shingoki: PDP-11s aren't stupid |
| 21:08.59 | pipeline | paulswm: I mean, back then, whether an OS was worthwhile was up for debate |
| 21:09.01 | shingoki | MobyTurbo, no they're not, but the course was |
| 21:09.03 | ama | 3333333/j #kernel |
| 21:09.06 | Seb | smo_: ? |
| 21:09.18 | ryan` | also |
| 21:09.20 | beardy | BiZARRE: http://tinyurl.com/bkrak (DOS-Win-to-linux-howto) http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html |
| 21:09.21 | smo_ | can i join u in pv?? |
| 21:09.28 | paulswm | pipeline: Yes, I understand, and I do remember having to manually read in my tape and exec the program |
| 21:09.34 | MobyTurbo | !u |
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| 21:09.34 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 21:09.35 | ryan` | what packages do i need to usa apache2 with ssl on sarge? |
| 21:09.36 | mutante | i wonder, they could have used vinyl LPs to store code |
| 21:09.42 | mutante | did they? |
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| 21:10.04 | shingoki | wasn't there something with wax cylinders? |
| 21:10.06 | pipeline | MobyTurbo: Eh, the PDP-11 was a pretty lame design. They were afraid to even call it a "computer" |
| 21:10.08 | tarzeau | !pv |
| 21:10.13 | toresbe | pipeline: Bullshit. |
| 21:10.29 | pipeline | shingoki: wax cylinders were commonly used for analogue recordings way back when. |
| 21:10.37 | toresbe | pipeline: the PDP-11 was a beautiful architechture. |
| 21:10.38 | pipeline | toresbe: What do you think PDP stands for? Tip: Not computer. |
| 21:10.43 | MobyTurbo | pipeline: Unix (V7 and earlier and 2BSD) ran on PDP-11s |
| 21:10.45 | beinsane | It was the PDP-1 that they wouldn't call a "computer" IIRC. |
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| 21:11.13 | pipeline | MobyTurbo: 2BSD was a backport. All three systems ran very, very, very poorly on the -11 because of memory limitations. |
| 21:11.13 | MobyTurbo | !start a minicomputer war |
| 21:11.13 | toresbe | pipeline: You're so full of shit it's amusing. Also, MacOS had subdirs from the start. |
| 21:11.14 | mutante | they did use audio tapes, a home-recorded voice would announce the program followed by the raw data noise |
| 21:11.24 | shingoki | pipeline, I was sure there was some storage medium that used wax somehow, but I may be going nuts |
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| 21:11.48 | shingoki | or actually I might be thinking of that microengineered thingy with the vibrating needle |
| 21:11.51 | beardy | shingoki: that's probably it ;) |
| 21:11.53 | shingoki | who knows |
| 21:12.03 | toresbe | pipeline: The PDP-1 was called a programmed data processor because it was the first minicomputer. Everybody was convinced a computer was a huuuge hulking giant and DEC wanted to break that stereotype |
| 21:12.22 | shingoki | but could you play doom on it? |
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| 21:12.35 | Seb | smo_: no |
| 21:12.38 | Seb | smo_: no /msg |
| 21:12.39 | mutante | how many paper punched cards do i need for a debian install |
| 21:12.41 | pipeline | toresbe: HFS wasn't added until the Mac+ came out. Before then, no directories. |
| 21:13.03 | hypz | one for a debian install mutante |
| 21:13.05 | Seb | smo_: then take a simple startup script example |
| 21:13.16 | MobyTurbo | !rube goldberg install |
| 21:13.16 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 21:13.23 | Seb | smo_: all you need to retain is the case start) stop) esac structure |
| 21:13.36 | toresbe | pipeline: Hmm, thinking anything about it, you might very well be correct |
| 21:13.36 | pipeline | toresbe: Also, the PDP-1 was certainly NOT the first minicomputer. Many computers before the PDP-1 were reasonably powerful without filling a datacenter. The PDP-1 would have been forgotten if later DEC products hadn't become popular. |
| 21:13.39 | wheatie | Hello I'm trying to install zlib and zlib-devel on a debian 3.1 system and i'm having problems finding the correct debs to install. |
| 21:13.56 | ama | uhh yeah |
| 21:13.56 | toresbe | pipeline: HAH. |
| 21:14.07 | ama | i hate pdp computers, give me a emachine any day |
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| 21:14.10 | EvanCarroll | wheatie: apt-cache search |
| 21:14.15 | toresbe | pipeline: The PDP-1 saw the development of the first computer game (of which I have a paper tape under my bed) |
| 21:14.19 | beardy | mutante: Or meters of papertape? (one file per roll of papertape, or how was it done?) |
| 21:14.29 | wheatie | EvanCarroll: Thank you |
| 21:14.32 | pipeline | toresbe: The PDP-1 was not popular. The -6 was a marginal success. The reason we remember those machines is that the PDP-8, 11, 10 etc were so popular. |
| 21:14.37 | ama | i hate paper tape in my bathroom |
| 21:14.41 | toresbe | pipeline: WTF are you *TALKING* about!? |
| 21:14.49 | toresbe | pipeline: The PDP-6 was a spectacular failure! |
| 21:14.49 | pipeline | toresbe: The first computer game was not spacewar and did not run on the PDP-1. |
| 21:14.51 | mutante | they did something with scotch tape a few years ago |
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| 21:15.10 | EvanCarroll | the first computer game was starcraft dumbass |
| 21:15.14 | toresbe | EvanCarroll: rofl |
| 21:15.16 | pipeline | toresbe: There was a "pong" clone in the 50s that used a ray-traced display a decade before spacewar. |
| 21:15.17 | EvanCarroll | lol |
| 21:15.22 | mutante | using a regular scotch tape roll and a laser ,burning pits into each layer of tape |
| 21:15.25 | MobyTurbo | !start a minicomputer war |
| 21:15.25 | dpkg | somebody said start a minicomputer war was Data General Sucks! |
| 21:15.26 | toresbe | pipeline: that was *not* a computer game |
| 21:15.28 | tarzeau | the first graphical webbrowser was on the NeXT on NeXTSTEP |
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| 21:15.40 | MobyTurbo | argh |
| 21:15.42 | paulswm | pipeline: the Sirius is a black and white pic near the bottom of the page: http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/monash-news/october-2004/itmuseum.html |
| 21:15.46 | EvanCarroll | toresbe: wrong, the first graphical browser was IE 6.0 |
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| 21:15.50 | tarzeau | the first GUI with 3d controls was also NeXTSTEP |
| 21:15.52 | giupy | hi all |
| 21:15.53 | tarzeau | EvanCarroll: bullshit |
| 21:16.00 | pipeline | toresbe: "In 1952, A.S. Douglas wrote his PhD degree at the University of Cambridge on Human-Computer interraction. Douglas created the first graphical computer game - a version of Tic-Tac-Toe. The game was programmed on a EDSAC vaccuum-tube computer, which had a cathode ray tube display." |
| 21:16.00 | tarzeau | and mIRC was not the first irc client |
| 21:16.03 | smo_ | ok seb |
| 21:16.06 | EvanCarroll | tarzeau: yes it was. |
| 21:16.10 | tarzeau | EvanCarroll: crap |
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| 21:16.19 | toresbe | pipeline: yeah, but it did not have nice vector graphics like on the PDP-1 :P |
| 21:16.24 | mutante | the first irc client was just "irc" |
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| 21:16.35 | EvanCarroll | tarzeau: dude [M]irc invented irc, everyone else just uses its protocol, duh. |
| 21:16.36 | sparr_ | Is there any way I can keep new package versions from overwriting the changes I make to their menu file? |
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| 21:16.46 | tarzeau | !murder EvanCarroll |
| 21:16.50 | pipeline | paulswm: Holy shit, dude. |
| 21:17.00 | tarzeau | sparr_: haha |
| 21:17.01 | caphuso | sparr_: you're editing the wrong files if it does that |
| 21:17.05 | toresbe | pipeline: anyway, the PDP-1 was quite successful. PDP-6 made DEC lose money quick. |
| 21:17.06 | EvanCarroll | sparr_: new packages versions won't due that anyway. |
| 21:17.08 | pipeline | toresbe: Also in the 50's, computer tennis, which did have nice vector graphics. |
| 21:17.16 | paulswm | pipeline: I wrote my first program for one of those, in 1968 :) |
| 21:17.22 | toresbe | pipeline: but was not a computer game. |
| 21:17.24 | pipeline | toresbe: The only reason we remember any of that MIT + DEC shit from the 60's is later successes. |
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| 21:17.39 | mutante | EvanCarroll: it was rather Jarkko Oikarinen |
| 21:17.41 | sparr_ | caphuso: err, im editing /usr/lib/menu/* |
| 21:17.45 | toresbe | pipeline: that's so bullshit it's amazing. What about Expensive Typewriter, then? The first computer typewriter |
| 21:17.46 | sparr_ | EvanCarroll: they seem to |
| 21:17.49 | tarzeau | sparr_: that's wrong |
| 21:17.50 | shingoki | The first computer game is the one we are running in |
| 21:17.50 | sparr_ | tarzeau: not funny? |
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| 21:17.50 | pipeline | toresbe: Nobody ever talks about more innovative designs from those decades (e.g. Burroughs B5000, various IBM projects) |
| 21:17.56 | caphuso | sparr_: see, you're editing the wrong files |
| 21:17.57 | shingoki | We are the NPC's |
| 21:18.00 | tarzeau | sparr_: yes, but you should do some RTFM |
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| 21:18.09 | EvanCarroll | sparr_: dpkg keeps md5s of every .conf file, that dpkg would rewrite, if you change a file by hand the md5 diffs, and won't be rewrote untill you resync your md5 sum and your md5 lock file |
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| 21:18.11 | El_Acoguero | hi, anyone here had already used Freeradius + mysql, i´m having problems with the class attribute, it returns numbers and not the string that i´ve put to it return, sorry my bad engish |
| 21:18.11 | toresbe | pipeline: I most definately do. the b5000 and Stretch et al were beautiful designs. |
| 21:18.12 | tarzeau | !breastfeed MobyTurbo |
| 21:18.16 | qwertz_ | Hi! How can I get the mx entries for a domain name - any option for nslookup? |
| 21:18.16 | pipeline | MobyTurbo: Dude, I'm 21. I just have an interest in history. :P |
| 21:18.17 | paulswm | !prise MobyTurbo |
| 21:18.20 | sparr_ | EvanCarroll: interesting |
| 21:18.26 | sparr_ | EvanCarroll: but its not .conf |
| 21:18.33 | tarzeau | qwertz_: what domain name do you want? |
| 21:18.34 | toresbe | pipeline: that's so bullshit it's amazing. What about Expensive Typewriter, then? The first computer typewriter. What about Scope Writer, the first on-screen text editor? |
| 21:18.38 | sparr_ | caphuso: where else do i make global changes that update-menus will find? |
| 21:18.45 | tarzeau | qwertz_: you want a dns server |
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| 21:18.51 | tarzeau | sparr_: homedir |
| 21:18.58 | sparr_ | tarzeau: 'global' |
| 21:18.59 | caphuso | sparr_: have you read /usr/share/doc/menu/* yet? |
| 21:19.04 | Skiver | where can read news about SARGE ? it's been no updates for weeks. |
| 21:19.06 | EvanCarroll | sparr_: doesn't have to be, update xfree86.conf then try to run dpkg-reconfiugure xfree86 |
| 21:19.15 | pipeline | toresbe: I find those incredibly dull. They're obvious, trivial advancements. |
| 21:19.21 | toresbe | pipeline: ...! |
| 21:19.21 | EvanCarroll | sparr_: most just happen to be .conf, the complete listing can be found in /var |
| 21:19.29 | MobyTurbo | don't look at me, I started with Wordstar or vaguely recall some unspeakable Apple 40 column thing. |
| 21:19.38 | tarzeau | sparr_: what changes do you do, just curious |
| 21:19.48 | pipeline | paulswm: Toresbe's antiques don't even run :P |
| 21:19.50 | Seb | bored bored bored |
| 21:19.50 | sparr_ | tarzeau: im adding 'hints' for programs that have none |
| 21:19.54 | Seb | god I'm bored |
| 21:19.58 | nipplesrulz | hey |
| 21:20.00 | tarzeau | sparr_: yuck, you must be bored |
| 21:20.00 | paulswm | !irritate Seb |
| 21:20.02 | dpkg | Seb: Y iz debain so old? how can I make my kanotix werkz !!!! |
| 21:20.03 | sparr_ | caphuso: briefly |
| 21:20.07 | toresbe | pipeline: the PDP-11 on my desk does. |
| 21:20.08 | tarzeau | sparr_: what broken software uses hints? |
| 21:20.09 | caphuso | sparr_: too briefly |
| 21:20.10 | nipplesrulz | are any of yall having trouble connecting to rizon by chance? |
| 21:20.15 | Seb | paulswm: ;) |
| 21:20.17 | tarzeau | Seb: translate some software? |
| 21:20.18 | paulswm | :D |
| 21:20.21 | MobyTurbo | I did use Unix before Linux though, so I guess I have slight old timer's status |
| 21:20.21 | pipeline | toresbe: How much memory do you have in it? What are you running? |
| 21:20.22 | sparr_ | tarzeau: tired of having to scroll 6 pages up in my super-long menus because package maintainers are too lazy to specify hints |
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| 21:20.29 | sparr_ | tarzeau: huh? |
| 21:20.36 | Seb | tarzeau: I need something more entertaining |
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| 21:20.42 | paulswm | MobyTurbo: Yeah, me too |
| 21:20.44 | toresbe | pipeline: I have 64kb, I think. I'm not running anything yet. |
| 21:20.45 | tarzeau | Seb: www.thehun.net |
| 21:20.46 | EvanCarroll | Seb: try lighting your house on fire |
| 21:20.47 | sparr_ | maybe id do better to spend my time filing bug reports for every package that doesnt specify any hints |
| 21:20.51 | qwertz_ | tarzeau, i need the mail exchange server for a domain ex. heise.de |
| 21:20.59 | Seb | EvanCarroll: you mean my workplace ? |
| 21:21.03 | tarzeau | qwertz_: apt-get install host && mx heise.de |
| 21:21.07 | Seb | tarzeau: not from work homeboy :> |
| 21:21.14 | EvanCarroll | Seb: the point was the fire, not what your lighting =D |
| 21:21.15 | toresbe | pipeline: I don't have a bus terminator, which means I can only attach a fixed amount of circuits to the bus |
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| 21:21.17 | pipeline | paulswm, MobyTurbo : Does anyone start out on Linux? I always thought the process was something like "Cheap Solaris clone for my home PC? Sign me up!" |
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| 21:21.22 | tarzeau | Seb: heh. play nethack? makes you look like a workhorse |
| 21:21.23 | Seb | EvanCarroll: :D |
| 21:21.33 | toresbe | pipeline: so for now I only have an LSI-11/2 CPU, RAM, and an SLU |
| 21:21.44 | pipeline | toresbe: One would expect the bus terminator to be a pretty trivial problem. |
| 21:21.47 | Seb | tarzeau: oh by the speed of my typing people around must be sure I am working my ass off |
| 21:21.57 | EvanCarroll | star wars 3 is such a good move for like 5hrs |
| 21:21.59 | sparr_ | tarzeau: think filing bugs would produce any results? |
| 21:22.00 | MobyTurbo | pipeline: I suppose Linux is everybody's first Unix nowadays. I started with Microport (yes, I know it sucks, at least it wasn't SCO) |
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| 21:22.11 | tarzeau | sparr_: no but working on the rc ones. #debian-bugs |
| 21:22.29 | tarzeau | sparr_: ah way, you mean wishlist bugs? maybe, depends on the maintainer |
| 21:22.35 | Seb | MobyTurbo: lotsa people are still using BSDs |
| 21:22.36 | tarzeau | sparr_: you know, i wouldn't put hints in, no way |
| 21:22.37 | ama | i dont even like unix |
| 21:22.40 | paulswm | pipeline: heh, I guess a lot of people do now, judging by some of the questions. Actually, I also ran Xenix on a 25MHZ ALR 386, still have all the 5.25 floppies and the manual set. |
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| 21:22.46 | toresbe | pipeline: the thing is, the boards used for the QBUS and UNIBUS are of an uncommon thickness |
| 21:22.47 | tarzeau | sparr_: but you probably wouldn't use any package of me ;) |
| 21:22.51 | sparr_ | tarzeau: why not? youre the reason my darn menus are 6 pages tall |
| 21:22.54 | Seb | MobyTurbo: i don't know about as a first OS, though, you're right |
| 21:22.55 | toresbe | pipeline: so I can't make new boards. |
| 21:22.57 | El_Acoguero | hi, anyone here had already used the freeradius + mysql with Class attribute???? |
| 21:22.58 | pipeline | MobyTurbo: Maybe I only see the reverse because I'm a college student. People install Linux to avoid using slooooow shell accounts. |
| 21:22.58 | Seb | ama: better do that, yeah |
| 21:23.03 | tarzeau | sparr_: your software is broken |
| 21:23.11 | tarzeau | sparr_: gnome? kde? |
| 21:23.14 | toresbe | pipeline: But I'm in line for a complete Micro11/53 from a friend who has about 70 PDPs |
| 21:23.19 | MobyTurbo | ama: Linux is a Unix clone, your comment makes no sense, unless you don't like Linux too |
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| 21:23.27 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: it's UNIX |
| 21:23.27 | pipeline | paulswm: What version of Xenix? Also, Xenix on 286 is a non-vm UNIX, no? :( |
| 21:23.30 | sparr_ | tarzeau: gnome, kde, openbox, icewm, fluxbox, and blackbox... |
| 21:23.39 | pipeline | toresbe: Seventy? Christ. |
| 21:23.45 | TwistedEmotions | sparr_: overkill? |
| 21:23.46 | sparr_ | tarzeau: how exactly do you propose they be un-broken? |
| 21:23.47 | tarzeau | sparr_: broken, broken, fine, ok, ok, and ok too... |
| 21:23.53 | tarzeau | sparr_: remove |
| 21:23.53 | sparr_ | TwistedEmotions: looking for the perfect wm :) |
| 21:24.09 | ama | i like linux |
| 21:24.10 | sparr_ | tarzeau: remove what? |
| 21:24.12 | toresbe | pipeline: yeah, he's a millionaire with a big house and a clause about old computers in concultancy contracts :> |
| 21:24.14 | paulswm | MobyTurbo: Here,s one who didn't come from Unix/Solaris...: |
| 21:24.15 | tarzeau | sparr_: broken stuff |
| 21:24.16 | MobyTurbo | tarzeau: I agree that Linux is Unix (without the (tm)) |
| 21:24.17 | paulswm | !qotd110 |
| 21:24.17 | dpkg | < cOLDrIPPA> ok, i had logged into Debian correct and typed the user and pass now it is in like dos mode for windows anyone help |
| 21:24.21 | tarzeau | paulswm: UNIX please |
| 21:24.27 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: i disagree |
| 21:24.29 | toresbe | paulswm: HAHAH. |
| 21:24.30 | sparr_ | tarzeau: ok. so im left with openbox, icewm, fluxbox, and blackbox. now what? |
| 21:24.33 | ama | not a big fan of unix though, it was always overrated |
| 21:24.33 | TwistedEmotions | sparr_: they have made a WM based on me yet.. so nothing is perfect. |
| 21:24.41 | TwistedEmotions | *havent |
| 21:24.47 | MobyTurbo | paulswm: heheh |
| 21:24.51 | toresbe | pipeline: Anyway, all of DEC's arcitechtures have been *beautiful* |
| 21:24.53 | ama | linux mind as well be unix |
| 21:24.55 | paulswm | tarzeau: You are right |
| 21:25.05 | Seb | ama: talking out of one's ass is totally overrated too |
| 21:25.08 | sparr_ | tarzeau: openbox cant deal with big menus at all. the other 3 make me scroll. |
| 21:25.11 | toresbe | pipeline: Not only on the arch level but on basically circuit level. |
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| 21:25.15 | pipeline | toresbe: The VAX and PPD-10 were many things, but you'll have a hard sell calling it beautiful. |
| 21:25.17 | ama | thats because every unix os i can think of has linux emulation or a compatibility layer |
| 21:25.19 | tarzeau | a/win 14 |
| 21:25.32 | Seb | ama: yup, and a pretty wide one too |
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| 21:25.41 | toresbe | pipeline: :| I can't believe you just said that :P |
| 21:25.43 | pipeline | ama: And by every, you mean none? FreeBSD, NetBSD, SCO UnixWare, and AIX are about the only ones with linux compatibility layers. |
| 21:25.44 | tarzeau | sparr_: tried Window Maker? |
| 21:25.51 | toresbe | pipeline: the PDP-6 was aehad of its time wrt. circuit reliability |
| 21:25.54 | MobyTurbo | pipeline: I wish x86 had orthagonal registers like VAX and PDP-11 |
| 21:25.56 | sparr_ | tarzeau: not yet, but i shall. how does it handle big menus? |
| 21:25.56 | Seb | ama: this last statement of yours, rephrased properly, would read "I don't know much" |
| 21:26.02 | tarzeau | sparr_: fine |
| 21:26.08 | mutante | was CP/M Unix related in any way? cause the Commodore 128 could run it, opposed to the C64 |
| 21:26.19 | tarzeau | sparr_: big menus are a not good though, that should be fixed |
| 21:26.26 | pipeline | MobyTurbo, toresbe : Yeah, but when we're talking aesthetics, you can't just ignore the ugly parts. A dozen odd address modes, the hideous, weird call instruction? |
| 21:26.27 | MobyTurbo | CP/M is not at all like Unix. It's closer to RTS |
| 21:26.30 | ama | pipeline |
| 21:26.32 | ama | so does solaris |
| 21:26.33 | pipeline | mutante: CP/M is what DOS was a clone of. |
| 21:26.34 | sparr_ | tarzeau: elaborate on "fine", given that you said openbox was "fine" and it cant use big menus at all, im skeptical |
| 21:26.37 | ama | and FreeBSD and NetBSD are not unix |
| 21:26.38 | pipeline | ama: Solaris does not. |
| 21:26.44 | ama | it does |
| 21:26.46 | mutante | pipeline: aha |
| 21:26.46 | sparr_ | tarzeau: i agree, they should be fixed. thats what hints are FOR |
| 21:26.47 | ama | project janus? |
| 21:26.49 | Seb | @ops ama is trolling |
| 21:26.49 | ravenbird_ | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: ama is trolling |
| 21:26.52 | pipeline | ama: FreeBSD and NetBSD are indeed UNIX, actually. |
| 21:26.53 | Seb | there |
| 21:26.53 | tarzeau | sparr_: i was refereing not to the menu system but the software generally |
| 21:26.55 | sparr_ | tarzeau: its the entire purpose of hints |
| 21:26.56 | paulswm | pipeline: I ran Xenix on a 386, you are correct about the 286. Xenix version was 2.3 according to the label on one of the floppies |
| 21:26.57 | toresbe | pipeline: VAX's CALL was nasty, so noone used it :) |
| 21:27.00 | pipeline | ama: Project Janus is vaporware. |
| 21:27.01 | ama | they are not UNIX (tm) |
| 21:27.05 | tarzeau | sparr_: hints are not used by Window Maker |
| 21:27.07 | ama | pipeline: maybe |
| 21:27.27 | sparr_ | tarzeau: does Window Maker not use the debian menu system? |
| 21:27.27 | toresbe | pipeline: but its arch was beautiful because back then, prety much everyone worked in ASM... |
| 21:27.33 | pipeline | ama: It's not in customer hands, they fired the entire Janus programming team months ago. It's unclear whether it exists. That makes it vaporware. |
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| 21:27.36 | ama | can you name one unix (tm) that does not have a linux compatibilty? |
| 21:27.39 | tarzeau | sparr_: yes it does |
| 21:27.48 | pipeline | toresbe: ASM was not the dominant language on the VAX. |
| 21:27.50 | pipeline | ama: I can name dozens. |
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| 21:27.59 | MobyTurbo | oh no, one of those only SysV == Unix pedants |
| 21:28.01 | pipeline | ama: You tread on dangerous ground. |
| 21:28.02 | mutante | ama: debian hurd? |
| 21:28.04 | ama | there are not even dozens of unix (tm)'s |
| 21:28.09 | sparr_ | tarzeau: err, then how is it 'not used'? the menu system handles the hints and builds the menus, the WM has no say over the heirarchy of menus at that point |
| 21:28.10 | paulswm | I used FORTRAN on the Vax 11/780 |
| 21:28.15 | Seb | ama: you don't know what "unix (tm)" means |
| 21:28.17 | ama | when i mean unix, i mean opengroup certified |
| 21:28.23 | pipeline | ama: No, there's at least four or five dozen open group certified UNIX systems. |
| 21:28.33 | caphuso | i think ama knows exactly what unix (tm) means, and everyone else doesn't |
| 21:28.34 | ama | '03 and modern previous years |
| 21:28.37 | caphuso | pipeline for sure does not |
| 21:28.39 | Seb | pipeline: better wait for a nice k-line |
| 21:28.47 | tarzeau | sparr_: aren't hints bubbles that say "this stuff is this and that, and bla bla bla"? |
| 21:28.51 | pipeline | ama: For that restricted definition, there are no UNIX systems with linux compatibility layers. |
| 21:28.53 | pipeline | ama: Not one. |
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| 21:29.01 | ama | there are not four or five dozen unix (tm) vendors |
| 21:29.11 | pipeline | ama: You came up with the dumbass definition, not me. |
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| 21:29.19 | pipeline | ama: Check out the Open Group page on the subject. |
| 21:29.23 | Seb | yeah, permasunday |
| 21:29.31 | paulswm | Indeed. |
| 21:29.34 | ama | i do not see four or five dozen Unix (tm) vendors |
| 21:29.35 | toresbe | pipeline: btw, if you're a retrodude, check out #classiccmp :) |
| 21:29.39 | sparr_ | tarzeau: err, no. hints are category suggestions for the menu system. i tell the menu system i only want 16 items on each menu and if there are 27 it tries to find 12 items with the same hint and submenu them together |
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| 21:29.52 | pipeline | toresbe: Heh, I'm on the cc mailing list, I didn't realize there was an IRC channel. |
| 21:29.53 | MobyTurbo | this is going to be one rough weekend |
| 21:29.58 | tarzeau | sparr_: ohhhhhh that's great |
| 21:30.01 | sparr_ | tarzeau: works GREAT for the apps menu and submenus. ive got apps/editors/text apps/editors/html etc etc |
| 21:30.07 | tarzeau | sparr_: definitely file wishlist bugs |
| 21:30.10 | paulswm | MobyTurbo: No shit, if this is the way it starts |
| 21:30.10 | mutante | will we see Debian GNU/Hurd in the next years and then #debian will kick for asking Linux related questions?;) |
| 21:30.11 | toresbe | pipeline: there is now :) |
| 21:30.13 | tarzeau | sparr_: i misunderstood you |
| 21:30.15 | coywolf | how to flush the mailq? in exim4 |
| 21:30.16 | coywolf | help |
| 21:30.18 | sparr_ | tarzeau: but the games menu is almost hintless, 95% of all Games/Arcade packages have NO HINTS |
| 21:30.24 | caphuso | coywolf: define "flush" |
| 21:30.34 | paulswm | MobyTurbo: And with Monday being a holiday in .us and .uk, it'll be extended :) |
| 21:30.36 | tarzeau | sparr_: this really is good work what you do |
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| 21:30.41 | tarzeau | sparr_: but have you read menu policy? |
| 21:30.43 | ama | debian hurd will not be out in next years anyway |
| 21:30.44 | coywolf | caphuso, send out the mailq immediately |
| 21:30.51 | caphuso | coywolf: check the -q* options |
| 21:30.52 | ama | gnu/hurd, as in stable release |
| 21:30.52 | tarzeau | ama: how can you know? |
| 21:30.55 | Seb | definite troll |
| 21:30.58 | ama | well it has already came out |
| 21:31.02 | coywolf | caphuso, danke |
| 21:31.09 | ama | but god knows it wont be out and be stable for awhile |
| 21:31.09 | Seb | ama: enjoy it while it lasts |
| 21:31.18 | MobyTurbo | paulswm: three days worth of permatard's day. |
| 21:31.21 | ama | it just started supporting 2gb disks |
| 21:31.22 | pipeline | ama: There are dozens of certified versions. Only specific versions of specific vendor products are certified. Not a single one of the '03 certified versions of UNIX has a linux compatibility layer :P |
| 21:31.28 | ama | and they ported it to l4 instead of mach |
| 21:31.38 | tarzeau | ama: so ? |
| 21:31.39 | ama | debian sarge is not even released |
| 21:31.45 | tarzeau | ama: no, 2 gb partitions |
| 21:31.46 | asg | ama: so ? |
| 21:31.53 | ama | yeah my bad tarzeau |
| 21:31.53 | Seb | @ops ama is trolling |
| 21:31.53 | ravenbird_ | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: ama is trolling |
| 21:31.53 | MobyTurbo | paulswm: make that four counting this afternoon |
| 21:31.56 | Seb | please |
| 21:31.59 | tarzeau | ama: that was GNU Mach, not Mach |
| 21:32.00 | sparr_ | tarzeau: yes. the actual menu structure remains unchanged. providing hints is in addition to the menu structure, so the menu system knows which items can be combined/segregated in each menu |
| 21:32.01 | Seb | someone takes care of him |
| 21:32.02 | caphuso | i can't see ama trolling |
| 21:32.10 | tarzeau | ama: but it's not GNU's problem if Mach is not free software |
| 21:32.11 | caphuso | so fucking stop abusing @ops until he actuallly does |
| 21:32.13 | sparr_ | tarzeau: its an amazing system, but it doesnt work if package maintainers dont supply hints |
| 21:32.14 | ama | how am i trolling? |
| 21:32.15 | Seb | caphuso: you gotta be the only one |
| 21:32.19 | beardy | Seb: Stop abusing the bot. |
| 21:32.21 | ama | seriously |
| 21:32.23 | pipeline | Seb: Being an asshole isn't necessarily trolling. |
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| 21:32.35 | Seb | pipeline: that can be true |
| 21:32.36 | ama | how am i being an asshole? |
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| 21:32.43 | pipeline | Seb: It's IRC, dude. You're allowed to be wrong, and you're allowed to be loud about it. Hell, it's encouraged. |
| 21:32.44 | tarzeau | sparr_: yep, probably they don't know, discussed it on the ml debian-devel yet? |
| 21:32.50 | tarzeau | sparr_: maybe talk on this in #debian-devel too? |
| 21:32.53 | sparr_ | tarzeau: the menu policy says every editor goes in Apps/Editors. and so they shall. but ive got 9 things in Apps/Editors with a hint of 'Text' so the menu system is smart enought o dynamically generate Apps/Editors/Text for me |
| 21:32.55 | MobyTurbo | ama: being clueless |
| 21:32.56 | tarzeau | ama: i never said so |
| 21:33.02 | sparr_ | tarzeau: sure, i shall try -devel |
| 21:33.11 | ama | how am i clueless, you are the ones who say there are four to five dozen unix vendors |
| 21:33.13 | caphuso | just saying something you don't like does not make the person saying it a troll |
| 21:33.16 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: she's just not choosing the excellent words she means |
| 21:33.27 | tarzeau | ama: there are |
| 21:33.29 | pipeline | ama: You'll note I didn't make that claim. And there are indeed four or five dozen certified UNIX systems. |
| 21:33.30 | paulswm | ama: Who cares, this is #debian |
| 21:33.46 | caphuso | tarzeau: name 10 of them |
| 21:34.01 | paulswm | There are certainly a lot of Unices, that was the problem pre SysV |
| 21:34.05 | tarzeau | caphuso: oops, didn't see the "dozen" |
| 21:34.07 | MobyTurbo | tarzeau: I agree that ama is more of an ignoramous than a troll |
| 21:34.09 | ama | just name 3 without linux compatibility? |
| 21:34.15 | tarzeau | caphuso: just seen four or five ;) |
| 21:34.23 | asg | if it looks and feels like unix, it's unix. |
| 21:34.35 | tarzeau | asg: hahaha that definition sucks |
| 21:34.35 | caphuso | damn, ama seems to be the only with half a clue |
| 21:34.45 | pipeline | ama: OpenServer, HP-UX, Solaris. |
| 21:34.46 | asg | tarzeau: works for me |
| 21:34.55 | tarzeau | asg: *shudder* |
| 21:35.03 | pipeline | ama: Tru64 UNIX is still certified, IIRC. That also lacks any kind of linux compatibility. |
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| 21:35.05 | ama | sco, has unix compatibility, so does hp-ux and solaris is in the works |
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| 21:35.20 | pipeline | ama: OpenServer doesn't, IIRC. Only UnixWare. |
| 21:35.24 | ama | *linux compatibility |
| 21:35.32 | tarzeau | SGI? |
| 21:35.33 | MobyTurbo | caphuso: are you sure ama knows what he's talking about? |
| 21:35.35 | pipeline | ama: HP-UX definitely doesn't have a linux layer. |
| 21:35.37 | caphuso | MobyTurbo: yes |
| 21:35.42 | doleyb | pipeline: solaris 10 has linux layer |
| 21:35.44 | ama | well not a layer |
| 21:35.45 | pipeline | doleyb: Nope. |
| 21:35.46 | asg | tarzeau: basically, if I can cat shit, tac shit, tr shit, and do something bourne shellish, it works for me. |
| 21:35.48 | caphuso | MobyTurbo: because he's the only one stating actual facts |
| 21:35.48 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: i think it's her |
| 21:35.49 | ama | a form of compatibility |
| 21:35.55 | ama | emulator, whatever |
| 21:35.56 | pipeline | doleyb: It's widely advertised, but it doesn't exist yet :| |
| 21:36.02 | bztunk | im gay, who wants to have sex with me |
| 21:36.05 | Wyzard | asg: Cygwin? :-) |
| 21:36.07 | paulswm | Does anyone actually give a shit about this anyway, looks like more of a dick waving competition to me. |
| 21:36.07 | Skrylar | Well; good news is i got that video problem fixed (turns out it was being confused between two config files) but now I can't get any sound. I "apt-get"ed the alsa-utils and it won't find my sound card on the latitude. |
| 21:36.08 | tarzeau | !sex bztunk |
| 21:36.09 | dpkg | bztunk is about 41% male |
| 21:36.13 | caphuso | paulswm: indeed |
| 21:36.29 | bztunk | put ur penis into my urete |
| 21:36.31 | pipeline | ama: Pray tell, what is this mystery product called? I've never heard of any such thing for HP-SUX :P |
| 21:36.32 | asg | Wyzard: I'd be more comfortable with that than the native environment, sure. |
| 21:36.38 | pipeline | paulswm: It's IRC. Dickwaving comes with the territory. |
| 21:36.39 | tarzeau | !ur |
| 21:36.39 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 21:36.40 | asg | tarzeau: better to bunzip bztunk |
| 21:36.56 | pipeline | paulswm: That, and he's stumbled across a pet issue. LOL LUNIX IS TAKING OVER |
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| 21:37.03 | ama | pipeline google it |
| 21:37.08 | tarzeau | asg: /ignore bztunk all |
| 21:37.18 | bztunk | hahah |
| 21:37.53 | pipeline | ama: Uh, shipping GNU tools doesn't count as linux compatibility, dude. |
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| 21:38.15 | coywolf | caphuso, can I flush the mails in sync ? |
| 21:38.25 | caphuso | coywolf: can you ask in english? |
| 21:38.35 | coywolf | caphuso, sync vs async |
| 21:38.40 | coywolf | as in that |
| 21:38.44 | pipeline | ama: Although it is indeed a nice feature :) |
| 21:38.44 | asg | n-sync? |
| 21:38.49 | caphuso | coywolf: that makes absolutely no sense |
| 21:39.12 | coywolf | caphuso, ie, mailq returns after all mails flushed out |
| 21:39.20 | caphuso | coywolf: huh? |
| 21:39.22 | ama | re google it |
| 21:39.26 | ama | pipeline: |
| 21:39.37 | ama | id give you a direct link but i dont got any form of webbrowser on this box |
| 21:39.38 | Skrylar | Anyone here set up the sound on a Dell Latitude CPi? |
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| 21:39.46 | pipeline | ama: And you don't know what the name of the product is, and the product doesn't exist. |
| 21:39.49 | asg | Skrylar: yes |
| 21:39.55 | pipeline | ama: It's hard to google for non-existent items :P |
| 21:39.55 | asg | Skrylar: it's a neomagic 256 |
| 21:39.59 | coywolf | caphuso, synchronous |
| 21:40.01 | ama | well pipeline i saw it on hp-ux's website |
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| 21:40.09 | Skrylar | asg: That explains why it won't take the CS driver... lol |
| 21:40.15 | coywolf | Wyzard, ya |
| 21:40.22 | ama | prior to this, i dont think its a product per se, as much as a feature |
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| 21:40.39 | Wyzard | coywolf: Read the documentation for whatever MTA you're using |
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| 21:40.44 | pipeline | ama: HP ships a "linux porting kit" that has a user-space library for glibc-compatibility and a few big thick books to help you port to HP-UX. Linux compatible it is not. |
| 21:40.48 | coywolf | Wyzard, it's exim4 |
| 21:40.51 | asg | Skrylar: try modprobe nm256_audio or similar (find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name '*nm256*') |
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| 21:41.11 | Wyzard | coywolf: I don't know the answer; I was just interpreting your question into understandable words |
| 21:41.13 | ama | well it sounds like a compatibilty/emulation layer to me |
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| 21:41.15 | coywolf | Wyzard, help, what options to -q |
| 21:41.17 | caphuso | damn |
| 21:41.20 | doleyb | pipeline: a press releast says hpux 11 will have linux layer, but thats more vaporware. |
| 21:41.21 | Wyzard | coywolf: If I wanted to find out, though, I'd check the Exim docs |
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| 21:41.38 | asg | caphuso: well, at least you're back in short order |
| 21:41.38 | pipeline | doleyb: The "layer" is what we're talking about. It's not vaporware, it's just crap. |
| 21:41.43 | coywolf | caphuso, what options to send out the mails immediately |
| 21:41.46 | ama | well we dont know if its vaporwear yet |
| 21:41.46 | paulswm | pipeline: if it is a dick waving competition, good job jetscreamer's not involved: qotd42 |
| 21:41.47 | pipeline | doleyb: They hyped it up to be a lot more than it is. |
| 21:41.52 | caphuso | coywolf: read the docs |
| 21:42.07 | coywolf | caphuso, i am reading the -q part |
| 21:42.12 | pipeline | paulswm: Eheh |
| 21:42.15 | ama | debian still says it will release sarge, but now it is may and we just have empty promises |
| 21:42.22 | coywolf | anyone would help |
| 21:42.25 | ama | that does not mean sarge will "never" be released and it is vapor wear |
| 21:42.27 | ama | *ware |
| 21:42.43 | sparr_ | ama: who cares? |
| 21:42.46 | caphuso | HP-UX LRE is already available in beta versions |
| 21:42.47 | sparr_ | i dont get the hoopla over releases |
| 21:42.50 | Wyzard | ama: Sarge is slated to release within a week or two, if the RC bug count continues dropping at the projected rate |
| 21:42.51 | sparr_ | if you want sarge |
| 21:42.52 | sparr_ | download sarge |
| 21:43.00 | Wyzard | ama: Check the debian-devel-announce list archives |
| 21:43.05 | ama | i have Wyzard |
| 21:43.10 | sparr_ | when sarge comes out, id rather have testing than sarge |
| 21:43.12 | ama | i heard it was going to be released at the end of may |
| 21:43.16 | pipeline | ama: The HP product is already released. It's not vaporware, it just sucks ass. |
| 21:43.21 | ama | ok |
| 21:43.26 | ama | it may suck but it exists |
| 21:43.34 | Wyzard | ama: Very early June, IIRC |
| 21:43.35 | caphuso | pipeline: enough. stop trolling |
| 21:43.37 | ama | i never used it myself, i prefer linux |
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| 21:44.01 | paulswm | ama: like sparr_ said, sarge is available if you want it anyway, if you are bothered about the release schedule, volunteer to help out |
| 21:44.05 | caphuso | this has gone long enough |
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| 21:44.14 | pipeline | caphuso: LRE, now that is something new. |
| 21:44.24 | Seb | unbelievable |
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| 21:44.39 | caphuso | pipeline: don't talk to me. i don't want to hear anything like "but it's beta, that's vaporware" crap from you... |
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| 21:45.00 | caphuso | i prefer a rusty knife |
| 21:45.04 | paulswm | Heh |
| 21:45.08 | pipeline | caphuso: I was talking about something else entirely. The LRE, I hadn't heard of. |
| 21:45.12 | ama | im not particuarily worried |
| 21:45.16 | pipeline | ama: You were right, I apologize. |
| 21:45.22 | ama | about its release date, i understand its done when its done |
| 21:45.29 | paulswm | ama: then stop going on about it then |
| 21:45.33 | ama | just wanted to show an analogy |
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| 21:45.49 | caphuso | this channel is right know even more stupid than normally |
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| 21:46.06 | caphuso | have you all actually read what ama said? |
| 21:46.07 | coywolf | anyone help with the exim4 sending out mails immediately? |
| 21:46.21 | DoktorTomoe | what do I have to do to get a CM8738 Sound chip card to work under debian sid? |
| 21:46.24 | paulswm | The thing is, that it's all volunteer work, so, although we all joke about the release, it's unfair to clobber people for stuff which they do in their spare time for free. |
| 21:46.35 | caphuso | "sarge isn't out yet. but that doesn't make it vaporware" isn' |
| 21:46.38 | beardy | !tell coywolf about ask |
| 21:46.50 | caphuso | t properly responded to with "read d-d-a" or "it'll be out in a few days" |
| 21:46.59 | coywolf | caphuso, exim4 -qff doesnt help |
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| 21:47.07 | caphuso | coywolf: bad luck. go use sendmail |
| 21:47.11 | IronRoses | hello |
| 21:47.19 | pipeline | caphuso : "<ama> debian still says it will release sarge, but now it is may and we just have empty promises" is substantially more inflammatory. |
| 21:47.22 | coywolf | beardy, i want to send out mails from the queue immediately |
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| 21:47.25 | smo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.25 | smo_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:47.28 | coywolf | caphuso, exim4 setting is ok |
| 21:47.35 | caphuso | pipeline: great, you stripped off half of the context |
| 21:47.35 | coywolf | caphuso, but too slow |
| 21:47.37 | caphuso | pipeline: good job |
| 21:47.37 | IronRoses | are there any special ways i have to install the nvidia drivers? |
| 21:47.47 | coywolf | f*ck |
| 21:47.49 | tobias | I have a server with 1 nic and 2 alias ips. All traffic is leaving on the aliase ip. Can I force outbound traffic to use the real ip? |
| 21:47.49 | caphuso | pipeline: get a clue |
| 21:47.56 | IronRoses | i have the .run package here, just wondering before i fock me box |
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| 21:48.54 | paulswm | !nvidia |
| 21:48.55 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 21:48.56 | ryan` | tobias, yes. |
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| 21:49.16 | asg | IronRoses: you are better off typing '/msg dpkg nvidia one liner' in your irc client |
| 21:49.38 | tobias | ryan, how please? |
| 21:50.00 | DoktorTomoe | Can someone please tell me what kernel module is responsible for CMedia CT8738 Sound chips? |
| 21:50.10 | ryan` | tobias, what's your route table look like? |
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| 21:51.45 | FieldySnuts | DoktorTomoe: google for that and "linux" and i bet you find answers |
| 21:51.47 | IronRoses | asg, what does that do? |
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| 21:52.03 | FieldySnuts | @lart IronRoses |
| 21:52.08 | paulswm | IronRoses: type it and see |
| 21:52.10 | FieldySnuts | dib? |
| 21:52.13 | IronRoses | i have |
| 21:52.13 | paulswm | !cluebat |
| 21:52.13 | dpkg | *WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK* |
| 21:52.14 | asg | IronRoses: it will instruct our bot to give you a simple recipe you can use to do what you want. |
| 21:52.20 | IronRoses | oh |
| 21:52.29 | tobias | ryan Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 21:52.29 | tobias | xxx.xxx.xxx.208 * 255.255.255.240 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 21:52.29 | tobias | default xxx.xxx.xxx.209 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 21:52.36 | FieldySnuts | !permasunday |
| 21:52.36 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
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| 21:53.02 | paulswm | As I was kicked the other day, I can no longer lart people for being pasting wankers. |
| 21:53.18 | IronRoses | cool, asg, thanks mate# |
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| 21:53.29 | asg | paulswm: sometimes, making a point requires more than 3 lines; just don't do it very often. |
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| 21:53.37 | tobias | ryan, get that? |
| 21:53.50 | hardcampa- | asg make the point in #flood then =P |
| 21:53.52 | paulswm | asg: Only once ever I think, debhelper got me on the last line :) |
| 21:54.01 | DoktorTomoe | FieldySnuts: If I had found clues, I wouldn't bother freenode. |
| 21:54.23 | paulswm | !irritate freenode |
| 21:54.24 | asg | hardcampa-: sometimes, it's relevant (greycat has done it quite a few times in such situations and it was appropriate.) |
| 21:54.24 | dpkg | freenode: wenas who uses kde kk |
| 21:54.54 | asg | paulswm: sometimes, though, a bad lag will get you if you are chatty and have a crap connection at the time. |
| 21:54.58 | hardcampa- | asg well.. I mean considering it's 4 lines. And each line in irc can have 512 letters. It should be enough |
| 21:55.06 | coywolf | I want to cancel a email, but i get Message 1DbmK9-0000tG-RU is locked |
| 21:55.30 | coywolf | help |
| 21:55.38 | caphuso | coywolf: so read the log files to find out what happened |
| 21:55.42 | asg | hardcampa-: sometimes, '\n' is relevant, as was the case in the the examples mentioned above. |
| 21:55.49 | Wyzard | DoktorTomoe: It seems to be "snd-cmipci", assuming you're using ALSA |
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| 21:56.10 | Wyzard | DoktorTomoe: If you're using OSS (which you shouldn't, because it's obsolete) I think it's either "cmipci" or "cmpci" |
| 21:56.11 | hardcampa- | asg you get returns in single lines pastes as well |
| 21:56.12 | coywolf | caphuso, (another process is handling this message) |
| 21:56.40 | DoktorTomoe | Wyzard, thanks |
| 21:56.42 | asg | hardcampa-: it was a visual thing, the victim in question would not have got the point of '\n' |
| 21:56.42 | caphuso | coywolf: so wait for the other process to be done handling it |
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| 21:58.38 | Ruede | hi all |
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| 21:58.50 | IronRoses | I need the addresses for contrib and non-free sources |
| 21:58.55 | IronRoses | where can i find these? |
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| 21:59.22 | adexta | !dpkg kde |
| 21:59.22 | dpkg | well, kde is a desktop enviroment based on the Qt toolkit. The latest stable release appears to be 3.4.0. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details. for woody check out http://www.apt-get.org/, or not a window manager |
| 21:59.24 | IronRoses | cmpci, is that a c-media sound card you trying to get working? |
| 21:59.43 | kjparker | just add those to sources.list |
| 21:59.48 | IronRoses | thanks |
| 21:59.53 | IronRoses | never done this before |
| 22:00.45 | Ruede | how switching x11 server off ? kill... always realoads that thing :) |
| 22:00.46 | adexta | is there a convenient way to upgrade to kde 3.4 from 3.3 on sarge? |
| 22:00.51 | asg | Ruede: /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 22:01.02 | asg | adexta: that's a downgrade, not an upgrade |
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| 22:01.16 | poser | msg nickserv identify andyandy |
| 22:01.20 | asg | adexta: though #debian-kde is where you need to ask |
| 22:01.31 | asg | poser: ooops |
| 22:01.42 | poser | yeah |
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| 22:02.37 | poser | good think I quit using it |
| 22:02.45 | poser | on important stuff |
| 22:02.53 | paulswm | !qotd39 |
| 22:02.53 | dpkg | i guess qotd39 is <concac> hey people, how come my password root is concac1113 and if i type su and concac it will accept the root password |
| 22:03.23 | kjparker | lol |
| 22:03.33 | adexta | asg: how is it a downgrade? |
| 22:03.50 | Ruede | asg: i don not get what you mean |
| 22:04.01 | asg | adexta: because if it isn't in sarge, shoehorning it in will likely cause things to break in ways you can't readily fix. |
| 22:04.13 | asg | Ruede: type '/msg dpkg nodm' in your irc client |
| 22:04.18 | adexta | i just want a new freaking verion of JuK |
| 22:04.27 | adexta | i had suse installed about a year ago |
| 22:04.42 | adexta | and it came with a decent version of JuK |
| 22:04.51 | poser | well anyways.. I have fc2 and when I install nvidia drivers and kernel modules.. it still doesn't load them |
| 22:04.56 | adexta | that didn't choke like a dying whore in a hotel room |
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| 22:05.06 | asg | adexta: what version was it? |
| 22:05.10 | Wyzard | poser: #fedora |
| 22:05.29 | poser | whoops.. I use both of course..! |
| 22:05.29 | cahoot | adexta: charming analogy |
| 22:05.29 | *** topic/#debian by caphuso -> READ FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr | READ BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | X.org -> /msg dpkg xorg | Java -> /msg dpkg java | Spambots? /umode +E; Ask for an op | kde 3.4 is not packaged yet | Sarge d-i rc3 out! /msg dpkg d-i | SARGE HAS FROZEN, security now up | target release date: 2005-06-06 |
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| 22:05.52 | chealer | adexta: did you try amarok? |
| 22:06.03 | adexta | i did once, i didn't like it much |
| 22:06.05 | adexta | is it better? |
| 22:06.06 | chealer | a release date! |
| 22:06.18 | chealer | everyone, there's a [target] release date! |
| 22:06.27 | adexta | asg: it was on suse 9.1 |
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| 22:06.45 | adexta | chealer: we'll have to add that to the topic |
| 22:06.48 | Phated | Ewwie. |
| 22:06.51 | gotpunk | i like mine well done |
| 22:06.51 | asg | adexta: I have no idea about what suse has, I've never used it. |
| 22:06.53 | gotpunk | with some catsup. |
| 22:06.55 | paulswm | Sarge release date splippage! Hold the front page! Film at 11! |
| 22:07.00 | Wyzard | though I'm not subscribed to the list |
| 22:07.10 | chealer | who wants extra gentoo trolls? |
| 22:07.13 | adexta | suse is really nice, actually |
| 22:07.24 | gotpunk | do you have any teriyaki trolls? |
| 22:07.27 | asg | adexta: good, then feel free to use it |
| 22:07.28 | gotpunk | all i have left are bbq trolls |
| 22:07.34 | Ruede | asg: thnx :) |
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| 22:07.39 | paulswm | chealer: they are good and crunchy when deep fried |
| 22:07.43 | caphuso | Wyzard: debian-devel-announce |
| 22:07.51 | asg | Ruede: you're welcome |
| 22:07.52 | IronRoses | could somone give me repos for Contrib and non-free please? |
| 22:07.56 | Wyzard | poser: Is the nvidia problem happening on a Debian system or a Fedora system? |
| 22:08.00 | Nigel | chealer: i'll have some, they should go really nice in my troll stew... |
| 22:08.01 | gotpunk | i'm very fond of the debian sparc64 branch, tho i heard it may be going away |
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| 22:08.04 | chealer | paulswm: jeez, I didn't even try them that way yet. can't wait |
| 22:08.10 | asg | IronRoses: just add 'contrib non-free' after 'main' in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:08.17 | Phated | IronRoses: Simply append contrib and non-free to your current lists after main. |
| 22:08.25 | chealer | ok, I'll make a webpage to give your orders |
| 22:08.52 | Wyzard | caphuso: Oops, meant to type "d-d-a" rather than "d-d-i"... but anyway, I don't see a new message there announcing a specific date |
| 22:09.02 | kjparker | then do an apt-get update |
| 22:09.02 | chealer | adexta: I like amarok much better than juk. what didn't you like, for example? |
| 22:09.09 | adexta | chealer: i don't remember. |
| 22:09.24 | adexta | i'll try it out again |
| 22:09.25 | caphuso | Wyzard: i do. wait for the archive to catch up |
| 22:09.39 | chealer | adexta: I recommend you to give it another try, sarge ships the latest version -1 |
| 22:09.42 | caphuso | Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:57:52 +0200 |
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| 22:10.21 | adexta | chealer: i'm apt-getting it as we speak |
| 22:10.25 | adexta | can you say that? |
| 22:10.27 | adexta | apt-getting |
| 22:10.30 | asg | adexta: yes |
| 22:10.33 | adexta | like wgot |
| 22:10.37 | Skrylar | asg: well.. the module loads but it won't play. I even checked the alsa sound matrix and edited the config file and ran update-modules |
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| 22:10.44 | asg | adexta: English is pliable |
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| 22:11.02 | paulswm | Heh, pliable, it gets bent till it breaks around here |
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| 22:11.12 | asg | Skrylar: oh, I've only ever used it using OSS. |
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| 22:11.35 | asg | paulswm: qotd114 |
| 22:11.50 | jesperj | If I want to remove a harddrive from the system, what do I need to tell Debian? Is it enough to manually just remove the line in fstab for the harddrive or do I need to do something else? |
| 22:12.02 | jesperj | (and then remove it physically) |
| 22:12.04 | Skrylar | asg: ... |
| 22:12.06 | Wyzard | jerome: That's all you need to do |
| 22:12.16 | Wyzard | jesperj: oops, ^^^ |
| 22:12.23 | asg | jesperj: provided it isn't the drive that anything really important runs from, you'll just get errors at boot (though removing /etc/fstab entries will prevent that.) |
| 22:12.37 | jesperj | asg right it is just an extra drive |
| 22:12.41 | jesperj | Wyzard, good. |
| 22:12.42 | Wyzard | jesperj: Actually, you don't even *need* to remove it from fstab beforehand; you'll just get a message at boot time saying that the device couldn't be mounted |
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| 22:12.55 | asg | Skrylar: I've never used ALSA with a CPi, only the OSS module. |
| 22:13.05 | jesperj | ty both |
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| 22:13.28 | paulswm | asg: Yes, I was thinking of that and nearly did it in channel, except I've done that too much today already :) |
| 22:13.46 | asg | paulswm: yes, you've been the qotd whore today :) |
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| 22:14.19 | paulswm | asg: Sorry, got carried away, but it was good, we all had a lot of laughs :) |
| 22:14.47 | Wyzard | caphuso: ah, now I see the announcement :-) |
| 22:15.05 | beardy | sarge is released |
| 22:15.10 | paulswm | The thing is that they are mostly so fscking funny. |
| 22:15.38 | Wyzard | beardy: No it isn't |
| 22:15.39 | caphuso | beardy: you know more than the release team? |
| 22:15.47 | xerophyte | can you able to mount the swap as root partition, i mean somone partition the root partition with swap file system time is it possible to mount that as ext3 partition just wondering .. reference http://forums.ev1servers.net/showthread.php?t=55889 |
| 22:15.56 | beardy | -!- sarge is now known as leonel |
| 22:16.10 | beardy | ;) |
| 22:16.30 | Wyzard | xerophyte: You can put an ext3 filesystem on a partition that's marked with type 82 (Linux swap) in fdisk, though I can't think of any reason why you'd want to |
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| 22:16.50 | Wyzard | xerophyte: But an actual swap space is not a mountable filesystem |
| 22:16.55 | xerophyte | Wyzard, my data center did that but it should crash the server am i right |
| 22:17.09 | asg | paulswm: :) |
| 22:17.11 | Wyzard | xerophyte: What would crash the server? |
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| 22:17.44 | Skrylar | beardy: Since when did they rename it |
| 22:17.50 | xerophyte | Wyzard, my server crash for unknow reason just wondering why would it .. i found this so just wondering it could be the reason i have data on the server dont wanna restore |
| 22:17.52 | remmy | Can someone help me set my graphics card? im running a 64meg nvidia card.. do i have to download the linux driver from the website? |
| 22:18.18 | beardy | it was just a bad irc joke.. damn |
| 22:18.20 | chealer | !tell remmy about nvidia-howto |
| 22:18.28 | Wyzard | xerophyte: You're not making much sense... I still don't understand what has been done on your server involving the swap partition |
| 22:18.29 | giupy | remmy, have you tried first using kernel agp ? |
| 22:18.46 | remmy | giupy, whats that? |
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| 22:18.52 | chealer | remmy: you want 3D graphics, not only 2D, right? |
| 22:19.17 | remmy | chealer, yes 3d i want to play some unreal =P |
| 22:19.34 | leonel | beardy, just a joke on #debianmexico |
| 22:19.39 | chealer | remmy: so follow dpkg's instructions |
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| 22:20.06 | giupy | remmy, what kind of kernel do you have? |
| 22:20.11 | remmy | how do i get to them? im using irssi-text for the first time |
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| 22:20.21 | remmy | giupy, i just installed sarge |
| 22:20.40 | giupy | remmy, try in another console "uname -r" |
| 22:21.14 | Wyzard | xerophyte: If you have a valid ext3 filesystem, you can mount it and use it, end of story. The partition's "type code" set with fdisk is irrelevant; setting it correctly helps you remember what type of data the partition contains, but Linux doesn't care about it at all. |
| 22:21.15 | chealer | remmy: hum, I don't know... you should have received a personal message from dpkg, but I never tried that client |
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| 22:21.41 | remmy | let me apt-get xchat |
| 22:21.45 | Skrylar | Anyone got sound to work on a Dell Latitude CPi /with/ alsa? |
| 22:22.12 | giupy | remmy, do you have X now? |
| 22:22.52 | IronRoses | I'm having o download kernel-2.6.8 just to get nvidia drivers to install, because that dpkg command can't find the kern-headers for the kernel i have running right now and, yes, the sources do work for apt |
| 22:23.06 | Wyzard | IronRoses: What kernel are you using? |
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| 22:23.37 | IronRoses | 2.4.27-i-386 |
| 22:24.15 | IronRoses | i hav'nt changed it since iv'e installed |
| 22:24.15 | giupy | IronRoses, mmm if you use a precompiled kernel you must have headers too, if you have right source.list |
| 22:24.26 | IronRoses | oh |
| 22:24.26 | Wyzard | IronRoses: Do you mean kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 ? |
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| 22:24.36 | IronRoses | hang on |
| 22:24.39 | remmy | brb |
| 22:24.43 | IronRoses | i'll uname -a |
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| 22:25.07 | remmy | ok can you send me the nvidia msg? |
| 22:25.09 | IronRoses | no |
| 22:25.26 | chealer | !nvidia-howto |
| 22:25.26 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia-howto was http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html for complete instructions for installing the NVIDIA DRI drivers "The Debian Way" on Sarge or Sid, or http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt for Woody. |
| 22:26.01 | IronRoses | ah, well, kernel 2.6.xxx will befine with me |
| 22:26.25 | Wyzard | IronRoses: You said you're running "2.4.27-i-386", but there's no such package in Debian... where you wrote 'i' there should be a number, not a letter |
| 22:26.59 | remmy | thanks =) |
| 22:27.00 | Wyzard | IronRoses: Sarge has 2.4.27-2-386, though, so I suspect that's what you meant |
| 22:27.20 | IronRoses | no |
| 22:27.32 | to_ | IronRoses: $apt-cache search kernel-header | grep 2.4.27 | grep 386 : it's here.. :) |
| 22:27.35 | IronRoses | I meant 2.4.27-1-386 |
| 22:27.49 | giupy | IronRoses, are you on woody ? |
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| 22:28.03 | IronRoses | no |
| 22:28.05 | IronRoses | sarge |
| 22:28.09 | Wyzard | IronRoses: Are you running a (pre-)sarge system that was installed awhile ago and not upgraded since? |
| 22:28.24 | IronRoses | iv'e upgraded the lot |
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| 22:28.33 | IronRoses | but i got the disc in linux bible 2005 |
| 22:28.37 | Wyzard | IronRoses: Actually, upgrading wouldn't have made a difference |
| 22:28.40 | IronRoses | sop, it may be pre sarge release |
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| 22:29.00 | Wyzard | IronRoses: Wait, someone shipped a Sarge snapshot in a book? |
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| 22:29.09 | john_ | hi I am trying to set up cups on debian to share to other linux pcs on the network |
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| 22:29.23 | IronRoses | bastards arn't they? |
| 22:29.24 | Wyzard | IronRoses: Anyway, kernel-image-2.4.27-1-386 doesn't exist anymore because it's been superseded... install kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 instead |
| 22:29.24 | giupy | IronRoses, si for kernel-headers to get via apt-get you must have a sarge kernel |
| 22:29.24 | john_ | I had it working so that I Could print from the local machine but not from others on the network |
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| 22:29.33 | IronRoses | lmao |
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| 22:29.42 | john_ | but then I dont know what I have done but the port 631 is not set up at all by cupsd |
| 22:29.46 | IronRoses | iv' just install kernel 2.6.8 |
| 22:29.54 | Wyzard | IronRoses: Or kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 instead, if you prefer... and probably replace 386 with 686 or k7 |
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| 22:30.17 | IronRoses | will it be in grub when i re-fire me bitch? |
| 22:30.21 | john_ | so I copied a blank cupsd.conf to /etc/cups/ and restarted cups but it is still not setting up the port |
| 22:30.25 | john_ | any ideas? |
| 22:30.34 | IronRoses | brb |
| 22:30.35 | Wyzard | john: You deleted the entire contents of your cupsd.conf? |
| 22:30.42 | giupy | IronRoses, than install kernel-headers-2.6.8-....... |
| 22:31.11 | giupy | oh, i don't understand he |
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| 22:31.47 | Pumpkin_Pie | how can I had two numbers from my shell ? |
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| 22:31.57 | Pumpkin_Pie | how can I add two numbers from my shell ? |
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| 22:32.03 | deadcat | expr |
| 22:32.11 | deadcat | or echo |
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| 22:32.28 | caphuso | Pumpkin_Pie: (( 2+3 )) or $(( 2+3 )), depending on what you need |
| 22:32.50 | paulswm | Pumpkin_Pie: for more info, man bash is a good reference |
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| 22:33.09 | deadcat | echo $[4+7] works too. for bash atleast |
| 22:33.25 | Pumpkin_Pie | that works |
| 22:33.30 | paulswm | I don't think anyone reads the bash manual |
| 22:33.40 | Pumpkin_Pie | i do |
| 22:33.45 | caphuso | deadcat: that's deprecated syntax. don't use |
| 22:33.54 | deadcat | DOH.. |
| 22:33.59 | Pumpkin_Pie | horrible people are the ones that dont read bash manual |
| 22:34.01 | deadcat | caphuso: use (( )) ? |
| 22:34.05 | Pumpkin_Pie | very very bad people |
| 22:34.05 | caphuso | deadcat: yes |
| 22:34.11 | deadcat | caphuso: when that happened? |
| 22:34.12 | paulswm | Pumpkin_Pie: It's not easy to find stuff in it, I grant you. |
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| 22:34.58 | caphuso | deadcat: years ago |
| 22:35.04 | deadcat | damn |
| 22:35.13 | deadcat | caphuso: my source is slow (= |
| 22:35.15 | paulswm | !deprecate deadcat |
| 22:35.19 | paulswm | :( |
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| 22:35.55 | sparr_ | i have a command that prints out a list of files. i want to do something to each of those files. whats the program i can use for that? |
| 22:36.25 | deadcat | paulswm: HAHAHAH |
| 22:36.29 | DerSchotte | hi, how do I check the consistancy of a udeb ? |
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| 22:36.50 | IronRoses | where can I get the most recent version of sarge? |
| 22:36.56 | deadcat | !pimpslash paulswm |
| 22:36.58 | sparr_ | IronRoses: apt-get |
| 22:37.06 | paulswm | sparr_: for i in `file-list-program` ; do stuff to $i ; done |
| 22:37.07 | IronRoses | since the version i have now is a focking snapshot....damn bastards |
| 22:37.15 | deadcat | IronRoses: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 22:37.17 | IronRoses | apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 22:37.26 | paulswm | deadcat: :D |
| 22:37.26 | IronRoses | ok |
| 22:37.27 | IronRoses | thanks |
| 22:37.32 | deadcat | paulswm: we even now. |
| 22:37.34 | cureless | IronRoses: There are all snapshots until it's released. apt-get will get you the latest. |
| 22:37.47 | paulswm | deadcat: Not a chance :) |
| 22:37.47 | cureless | s/There/They/ |
| 22:37.58 | paulswm | !fruitsmite deadcat |
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| 22:38.26 | mysurfguide | Got another question about mounting, I got a USB stick here I have mounted, however, it will not let me write to it and gives me "Access Denied" error whenever I try to copy a file to it. Anybody have any idea? |
| 22:38.35 | cureless | IronRoses: a lot of people run only "snapshots" of sid. |
| 22:38.47 | mysurfguide | It is mounted "mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 |
| 22:38.57 | caphuso | mysurfguide: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 22:39.00 | IronRoses | hmmm |
| 22:39.08 | mysurfguide | ah! that might be it caphuso, ty |
| 22:39.10 | IronRoses | I was running sid a whiile back, it's excellent |
| 22:39.15 | john_ | Wyzard, I have copyed an origional cupsd.conf there |
| 22:39.28 | john_ | Wyzard, the port 631 shows up in an nmap |
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| 22:39.31 | deadcat | paulswm: this bot dont like the way i use him/her/it (= |
| 22:39.47 | john_ | Wyzard, but it says not found when I try open it in a web browser |
| 22:39.54 | segphault | I'm trying to use make-kpkg to build a kernel, and I'm getting "crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized" any suggestions for me? |
| 22:39.56 | IronRoses | had the latest version of everything before me buddys........they said they were unstable, i said they were assholes, they were right though...my box was as stable as my mate after a friday night piss-up |
| 22:39.57 | paulswm | deadcat: :( |
| 22:40.39 | john_ | should apt-get remove cupsys && apt-get install cupsys reset it all to defaults? |
| 22:40.40 | paulswm | IronRoses: Yeah, sid is stable until it breaks :) |
| 22:40.54 | Seb | john_: --purge would I guess |
| 22:41.12 | cureless | IronRoses: I normally have no problems with sid's stability. |
| 22:41.19 | paulswm | Which reminds me... |
| 22:41.21 | paulswm | !qotd92 |
| 22:41.21 | sparr_ | and so begins my menu hints crusade! is the bug system going to do anything funny with me submitting a lot of bugs in a short period? |
| 22:41.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd92 is <bobesponja> I'm running sid, not debian |
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| 22:42.05 | caphuso | sparr_: you'll get the "postponer of the sarge release" award and will suffer hate from a lot of people ;-) |
| 22:42.06 | paulswm | I have no problem with sid's stability either, becasue I run sarge :P |
| 22:42.08 | IronRoses | how do i upgrade to sid? |
| 22:42.12 | IronRoses | change the sources? |
| 22:42.14 | IronRoses | to what? |
| 22:42.15 | caphuso | IronRoses: you don't, if you have to ask to |
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| 22:42.21 | deadcat | IronRoses: to unstable. |
| 22:42.29 | deadcat | i mean experimental |
| 22:42.30 | furrywolf | god I hate working on other people's wiring! and this house is worse than most. |
| 22:42.33 | IronRoses | thanks |
| 22:42.50 | furrywolf | from what I can tell, there's loops in the electrical system. As in, more than one way for power to reach a given spot. |
| 22:42.51 | cureless | furrywolf: is it like working on other people's code? |
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| 22:43.08 | furrywolf | as in, if you were to cut a wire, there would be power on both sides of the cut |
| 22:43.15 | marcin | hi all |
| 22:43.21 | john_ | Seb, what is --purge? |
| 22:43.25 | caphuso | cureless: no. working on other people's code can't kill you |
| 22:43.30 | paulswm | Working on other people's code doesn't normally carry the risk of electrocution. |
| 22:43.33 | Seb | john_: apt-get remove --purge ... |
| 22:43.36 | marcin | I would like to ask if is there some apt repository with emacs cvs packages? |
| 22:44.01 | furrywolf | ever seen a house wire like that? geez. |
| 22:44.04 | furrywolf | wired |
| 22:44.09 | hypz | purge remove's everything inlucding config files etc. |
| 22:44.13 | cureless | marcin: you're really looking for emacs cvs features? |
| 22:44.31 | john_ | thanks seb |
| 22:44.32 | marcin | cureless: sure |
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| 22:44.50 | FieldySnuts | @start an editor war |
| 22:44.51 | ravenbird_ | cat > blows |
| 22:44.52 | caphuso | marcin: http://usefulinc.com/edd/notes/CVSEmacsOnDebian is the best you can get |
| 22:45.03 | nipplesrulz | !start an editor war |
| 22:45.04 | dpkg | xemacs users are clueballs |
| 22:45.26 | furrywolf | I'm trying to re-wire this, and I can't even figure out what the existing wiring does. I've never seen loops in the wiring before... |
| 22:45.30 | paulswm | Put bare foot on damp floor, lick finger, grab wire ('debugging') |
| 22:45.32 | drp | !topicsmite drp |
| 22:45.33 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon drp. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 22:46.19 | FieldySnuts | !rape test |
| 22:46.20 | marcin | caphuso: thanks |
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| 22:46.50 | FieldySnuts | apt: rape? |
| 22:46.51 | apt | vt. 1. To screw someone or something, violently; in particular, to destroy a program or information irrecoverably. Often used in describing file-system damage. "So-and-so was running a program that did absolute disk I/O and ended up raping the master directory." 2. To strip a piece of hardware for parts. |
| 22:47.02 | paulswm | !fruitsmite FieldySnuts |
| 22:47.21 | IronRoses | mother of christ jim!!! 200MB of update, wow |
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| 22:47.30 | FieldySnuts | damnit, jim! |
| 22:47.42 | mysurfguide | Hrmm weird, I tried that caphun, and it did not work. And I have another problem with it. Whenever I unmount or remove the USB stick itself, it refuses to find the sda1 component again, how come? |
| 22:47.46 | IronRoses | to the bridge jim!!! |
| 22:47.47 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: Very funny reference (tiger) |
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| 22:48.00 | hypz | 200mb, i hope your not on dial-up ;) |
| 22:48.02 | mysurfguide | When I put it back in that is. |
| 22:48.02 | FieldySnuts | hehe |
| 22:48.12 | IronRoses | lol, please, broadband, 2Mb |
| 22:48.19 | paulswm | "What about a pointed stick?" |
| 22:48.25 | FieldySnuts | shut up! |
| 22:48.28 | mysurfguide | ironroses, 24mb here :) |
| 22:48.35 | hypz | :) |
| 22:48.38 | IronRoses | yeh yeh |
| 22:48.41 | hypz | 2,3 mb here |
| 22:48.57 | mysurfguide | well mbit to be specific |
| 22:48.59 | FieldySnuts | !start a distro war |
| 22:48.59 | dpkg | Mandrake rox0rz! |
| 22:49.05 | paulswm | "Next time some great homicidal maniac comes at you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come running to me!" |
| 22:49.06 | IronRoses | I plan to move to sweeden, to get my a Gb connection |
| 22:49.07 | hypz | yes me too 2,3 mbit |
| 22:49.14 | john_ | i am on 2mbit 'broadband' but then they cap me to 64kbps after download 10gb per month !! |
| 22:49.17 | mysurfguide | lol iron |
| 22:49.18 | beardy | Yay, another penis measurement contest.. |
| 22:49.24 | FieldySnuts | beardy: pretty much |
| 22:49.25 | mysurfguide | mine is 24mbit down and 1mbit up |
| 22:49.35 | IronRoses | lmfao, beardy |
| 22:49.42 | FieldySnuts | i could throw in that I have access to a 10Gbps connection but nah |
| 22:49.54 | IronRoses | mine 121down and 30 up |
| 22:50.01 | IronRoses | with no cap |
| 22:50.08 | furrywolf | bbl, going to the hardware store to pick up a pile of outlets. I'm going to disconnect every one to measure between them to see where the wires go (other option is pulling the siding off the house... already pulled two sheets off, and don't want to pull more!), and not about to put the old dirty outlets back in once I cut the wires. :) |
| 22:50.13 | IronRoses | my brother has a 1gb cap daily |
| 22:50.14 | IronRoses | lol |
| 22:50.28 | john_ | IronRoses, I have a 10gb cap monthly |
| 22:50.29 | IronRoses | and he poor bugger use to download around 10gb a day |
| 22:50.30 | hypz | I'm glad i dont have a cap |
| 22:50.35 | mysurfguide | Anybody good with USB sticks or have had issues with them on deb before ? (everyone that is....) |
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| 22:50.53 | john_ | ie >350mb a day |
| 22:50.56 | IronRoses | my bro is wiht ntl they recently upgraded him, he has a 30gb month, which is 1gb a dyy |
| 22:50.57 | IronRoses | lmao |
| 22:51.14 | hypz | My usb sticks work fine but I can only access them as root, still got to fix that |
| 22:51.14 | cureless | I drive that legendary van with backup tapes down the highway. |
| 22:51.25 | IronRoses | i'm with pipex, no capping here man |
| 22:51.36 | mysurfguide | hypz, I cannot access it at all, gives me Access Denied error whenever I try to copy something to it |
| 22:52.01 | IronRoses | i hate capping, fucking pointless though......these so called goo-for-value isp's must be making lots by capping bandwidth |
| 22:52.01 | mysurfguide | and it wont recognize the /dev/sda1 once I have removed and put the stick back in |
| 22:52.06 | Seb | hypz: add yoself to the usb group I think |
| 22:52.13 | hypz | sometime there is a switch on the usb stick for write access chack that |
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| 22:52.21 | hypz | yes might be thx Seb |
| 22:52.28 | mysurfguide | ive tried that hypz, ive got it. but cannot get it to work |
| 22:52.53 | hypz | wierd I don't know, I can access it as root just fine |
| 22:53.04 | mysurfguide | hmm, weird |
| 22:53.18 | sparr_ | caphuso: theya re all wishlist, shoudlnt hurt sarge :) |
| 22:53.38 | sparr_ | caphuso: despite my opinion being that they are of slightly higher importance, wishlist seems to be the best category |
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| 22:55.29 | mysurfguide | what would be the default name of the usb group? |
| 22:55.45 | hypz | mysurfguide > how do you mount your usb-stick?? automatic or by hand in console? |
| 22:55.50 | caphuso | there is an usb group? |
| 22:55.54 | mysurfguide | by hand in console |
| 22:55.59 | mysurfguide | I dont know caphuso |
| 22:56.02 | hypz | not on my system, I have no usb group |
| 22:56.10 | mysurfguide | mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 |
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| 22:56.18 | caphuso | mysurfguide: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 22:56.25 | mysurfguide | I did caphuso, it didnt work |
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| 22:56.26 | hypz | I do mount -t usbfs /dev/sda1 /media/usb |
| 22:56.41 | mysurfguide | well see the funny thing is that it lets me mount it |
| 22:56.57 | mysurfguide | but not write to it, and I tried the fstab editing of adding the umask and gid,uid |
| 22:57.01 | mysurfguide | still wont let me |
| 22:57.08 | mysurfguide | and it is unlocked and not write-protected |
| 22:57.09 | caphuso | mysurfguide: can you write as root? |
| 22:57.26 | mysurfguide | how do you mean? |
| 22:57.42 | caphuso | mysurfguide: if you are root, can you write to a file on the stick? |
| 22:57.52 | mysurfguide | no caphuso |
| 22:58.19 | caphuso | mysurfguide: what's the error message? |
| 22:58.29 | mysurfguide | "Access Denied" |
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| 22:58.42 | caphuso | mysurfguide: what app is telling you that? |
| 22:58.52 | mysurfguide | konqueror when I try adding files |
| 22:58.55 | mysurfguide | copy n paste em |
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| 22:59.09 | hypz | you can mount the usb without specifying the filesystem type |
| 22:59.17 | mysurfguide | see the hilarious about it is this: |
| 22:59.17 | hypz | than it works here |
| 22:59.27 | mysurfguide | I remove the usb stick and plug it back in |
| 22:59.33 | mysurfguide | then it cannot find sda1 |
| 22:59.41 | mysurfguide | device sda1 does not exist |
| 22:59.49 | mysurfguide | but it sure did just a second ago |
| 23:00.02 | mysurfguide | I do fdisk -l /dev/sda1 and get nada |
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| 23:00.06 | caphuso | mysurfguide: anything interesting in "dmesg" output? |
| 23:00.25 | mysurfguide | yep sure is I did a dmesg | tail and get this: |
| 23:00.36 | hypz | well when I just pull the usbstick out without umounting it cant see the sda1 device |
| 23:00.48 | mysurfguide | usb 1-1.3 USB control timeout on ep0in |
| 23:00.50 | caphuso | you really shouldn't do that |
| 23:00.55 | hypz | you have to umount it first before pulling out |
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| 23:01.17 | mysurfguide | well, when I try to umount mine it says device is busy |
| 23:01.22 | mysurfguide | its kinda up-n-down |
| 23:01.28 | heartsmagic | guys i have a boot problem |
| 23:01.30 | caphuso | mysurfguide: don't access it while umounting |
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| 23:01.38 | mysurfguide | I dont |
| 23:01.44 | caphuso | that includes shells you cd'ed into /media/usb0 |
| 23:01.45 | mysurfguide | thats also what is funny about it |
| 23:01.48 | mysurfguide | lol |
| 23:01.54 | hypz | and your not in the directory where you mounted the usb disk when umounting it? |
| 23:02.05 | mysurfguide | no hypz, I do it via console and not in it |
| 23:02.10 | hypz | ok |
| 23:02.12 | mysurfguide | not in the folder either |
| 23:02.38 | kotzbrocken | mysurfguide: what about lsof /media/usb0? |
| 23:02.58 | mysurfguide | stalker:/home/cr4cker# umount /dev/sda1 |
| 23:02.58 | mysurfguide | umount: /dev/sda1: not found |
| 23:02.59 | caphuso | or fuser -v /dev/sda1 |
| 23:03.19 | mysurfguide | gives me a command, pid and user |
| 23:03.43 | mysurfguide | and last command fuser -v /dev/sda1 gives me No such file or dir |
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| 23:04.11 | heartsmagic | do you use udev mysurfguide |
| 23:04.19 | mysurfguide | udev hearts? |
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| 23:04.37 | heartsmagic | ok you dont know |
| 23:04.46 | hypz | man udev ;-) |
| 23:04.50 | heartsmagic | do you have /.dev/sda1 |
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| 23:05.10 | mysurfguide | nope hearts it aint there |
| 23:05.15 | heartsmagic | be careful there is a dot . |
| 23:05.18 | tga | hey, I'm having some trouble setting up a bridge between eth0 and eth1.. I see traffic on eth0 but it doesn't get sent to eth1 for some reason |
| 23:05.34 | mysurfguide | but when it decides to find one it works, just wont let me write to it |
| 23:05.53 | mysurfguide | bash: cd: /.dev: No such file or directory |
| 23:06.00 | justin | tga: um, did you set up an actual bridge yet? |
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| 23:06.28 | buu | Can anyone tell me what: ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy; means in the context of a mount attempt? |
| 23:06.32 | tga | justin: I set up the bridge and I'm going online through it now |
| 23:06.37 | hypz_ | exit |
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| 23:06.51 | hypz | wtf |
| 23:06.52 | hypz | brb |
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| 23:07.00 | justin | tga: um, then what is the problem? |
| 23:07.07 | mysurfguide | well guys ima hit the hay and call it a night, ty though I be back tomorrow. |
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| 23:07.30 | hypz | ok |
| 23:07.33 | tga | justin: I have a system on eth0 that can't talk to the router on eth1.. |
| 23:07.52 | tga | justin: or should I say the ONLY system on eth0 can't get through the bridge |
| 23:07.52 | sparr_ | heh |
| 23:07.55 | beardy | buu: What are you trying to mount? |
| 23:07.59 | sparr_ | i forgot the BTS would email me about all these reports |
| 23:08.07 | tga | justin: come take a look in #flood if you can |
| 23:08.07 | buu | beardy: A cd image |
| 23:08.07 | sparr_ | saw email start to come in |
| 23:08.22 | beardy | buu: It's corrupt? |
| 23:08.30 | buu | beardy: I do basically: mount -o loop=/dev/loop1 foo.img /foo/bar |
| 23:08.35 | buu | beardy: Bah |
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| 23:10.03 | buu | beardy: You have any idea on how I could tell what's wrong? I'm pretty sure the actual data is good, but it started out in one of those wacky window propietary formats (mdf), I found a converter, but obviously I can't mount the converted image.. |
| 23:11.41 | beardy | buu: The converter didn't do it's job correctly, or the original file were bad from the start. (guessing) |
| 23:12.07 | buu | beardy: Well yes, that's not too helpful I'm afraid |
| 23:12.21 | buu | Hrm, when I try to mount a valid cd image I get "mount: could not find a free loop device" |
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| 23:12.44 | f0ssi | hi guys |
| 23:12.48 | cureless | buu: maybe you haven't loaded the loop device. |
| 23:12.48 | buu | Oh hrm. umounting helps. |
| 23:13.27 | buu | Naw, It's loaded |
| 23:13.31 | buu | I can mount other stuff using it. |
| 23:13.38 | buu | I just need to umount stuff apparently. |
| 23:13.44 | f0ssi | question: is there any script out to backup mysql databases and send this update to ftp/email |
| 23:13.45 | beardy | buu: ... |
| 23:13.58 | f0ssi | update = backup |
| 23:14.22 | cureless | f0ssi: scp? |
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| 23:14.33 | f0ssi | cureless: ?! |
| 23:14.42 | buu | beardy: I still can't mount this cd imag |
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| 23:14.53 | cureless | f0ssi: can't you just copy the whole thing? Or do you really want a dump? |
| 23:14.56 | f0ssi | huh |
| 23:15.10 | mihaly | when I try to run startx, It begins to start but says cant write to /tmp how should I fix this? |
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| 23:15.26 | f0ssi | i have about 30 running webservers and i did the backups manually through phpmyadmin |
| 23:15.34 | f0ssi | and this is a lot of work |
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| 23:15.55 | f0ssi | so i search for a way to get emails with the backups automaticly |
| 23:16.01 | cureless | f0ssi: do you have control of the whole thing? Are you backing up only a subset of the stuff? |
| 23:16.21 | f0ssi | i am exporting the whole databases |
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| 23:16.29 | f0ssi | -> localhost |
| 23:16.42 | gandy909 | Running 30r4...If I want to revert from xinetd (which I just installed) to inetd, will a simple uninstall of xinetd do it, or did I screw up? |
| 23:17.13 | gandy909 | I know I screwed up regardless, but that's beside the point... :) |
| 23:17.24 | deadcat | hows that trick about sending a file to a remote machine via ssh and | ? i dont have scp or anything. just ssh |
| 23:17.44 | kelan | gandy909: do you still have inetd installed? or does xinetd uninstall that first |
| 23:17.46 | deadcat | nevermind. got it. |
| 23:17.49 | beardy | buu: How should we know how your data looks like?, if it works to mount other images on your loop devices, but this image doesn't, that image is bad. |
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| 23:18.29 | kelan | deadcat: what is it? |
| 23:18.39 | kelan | for those others that would like to know:) |
| 23:18.42 | cureless | f0ssi: don't believe me, I've never done it, but maybe you can back up by just getting something like /var/lib/mysql |
| 23:18.45 | gandy909 | kelan, I didn't see it say anything about uninstalling....the inetd.conf file still exists, renamed... |
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| 23:18.50 | deadcat | kelan: cat filename | ssh user@remote "cat > filename" |
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| 23:19.00 | john_ | i have ppds in /usr/share/cups/model but they are not showing in cups. Is there somewhere else they should be? |
| 23:19.05 | deadcat | kelan: i dont have scp on freeshell.org (= |
| 23:19.07 | buu | beardy: No, the image is fine, it just is not an iso image. |
| 23:19.12 | kelan | gandy909: what does 'dpkg -l inetd' say? does it list an installed version? |
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| 23:19.18 | f0ssi | yer cureless but its easyer to backup just the databases because its better to re-import them then |
| 23:19.18 | sparr_ | :( |
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| 23:19.37 | sparr_ | ok, not going to report 200 wishlist bugs in one day |
| 23:19.41 | sparr_ | a few today, a few tomorrow |
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| 23:19.44 | sparr_ | should even it out a big |
| 23:19.44 | beardy | buu: Then you can't mount it. |
| 23:19.45 | sparr_ | bit |
| 23:19.59 | cureless | f0ssi: sort of, if what you want is to dump each one so you can import each one, then yes. But if you get the whole thing you should be able to just "put it back". |
| 23:20.01 | kelan | deadcat: you don't? i do. maybe you have to have a member account to have access |
| 23:20.10 | dondelelcaro | buu: is it a cue or bin image or something? |
| 23:20.11 | DaCa | deadcat: do you have sz? in that case using zssh might be handy |
| 23:20.23 | f0ssi | oh cureless i just found a tool on google |
| 23:20.24 | f0ssi | :) |
| 23:20.26 | beardy | buu: Maybe someone else knows of a way though. |
| 23:20.27 | gandy909 | kelan, says no packages found. :( |
| 23:20.27 | deadcat | kelan: i didnt pay him (= |
| 23:20.30 | f0ssi | its called: phpmybackuppro |
| 23:20.42 | deadcat | DaCa: whats sz? i use bash. |
| 23:20.44 | cureless | f0ssi: well, there you go. |
| 23:20.53 | f0ssi | thank you anyways :) |
| 23:20.56 | cureless | deadcat: sz is send-zmodem |
| 23:21.02 | DaCa | deadcat: zmodem send |
| 23:21.17 | deadcat | ah. heheh. never used it. |
| 23:21.21 | kelan | deadcat: ah. well $40 for a lifetime membership didnt seem too bad to me. i installed the stuff i didnt have by default:) |
| 23:21.34 | cureless | deadcat: normally used for serial connections (modems/serial consoles, etc) |
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| 23:21.44 | buu | dondelelcaro: mdf. I found a mdf2iso, but it "doesn't work". I have similar problems with a ccd2iso utility at one point though, and all it required was appending 4 nuls to the front of the converted iso |
| 23:21.51 | deadcat | kelan: i thought it was $60. and besides. i only use it for email. good email (= |
| 23:21.55 | gandy909 | kelan, of course apt-get says it can't find inetd to install it anyway |
| 23:22.02 | dondelelcaro | buu: mdf? what sort of image is that? |
| 23:22.02 | deadcat | cureless: thats oldie right? |
| 23:22.03 | kelan | gandy909: hold on, i think maybe that isnt the package name |
| 23:22.08 | buu | dondelelcaro: alcohol120 apparently |
| 23:22.12 | cureless | deadcat: sort of. |
| 23:22.32 | deadcat | now i write a script to send my config files to freeshell every night .(= |
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| 23:22.54 | cureless | deadcat: it's still used if you can access something only via the serial console, like installing an ipaq, connecting to certain equipment, restoring a remote server if the network is unaccesible, etc. |
| 23:23.25 | kelan | gandy909: the package my inetd was in is called 'netkit-inetd' try asking dpkg about that one |
| 23:23.27 | deadcat | cureless: nice.. screen(1) uses it too rigth? |
| 23:23.41 | buu | dondelelcaro: Yeah so does google. |
| 23:23.42 | cureless | deadcat: it does? what for? |
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| 23:23.54 | deadcat | cureless: installing debian via serial cable? |
| 23:24.09 | paulswm | dondelelcaro: Medium Density Fibreboard? |
| 23:24.13 | dondelelcaro | paulswm: yes. |
| 23:24.18 | cureless | deadcat: that yes, but screen? |
| 23:24.29 | to_ | hi, which version of debian should i install for my amd64...x86 will work? |
| 23:24.33 | dondelelcaro | the whole class (LDF,MDF,HDF) is often called particleboard |
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| 23:24.47 | deadcat | !amd64 |
| 23:24.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
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| 23:25.08 | gandy909 | kelan, yup says its there |
| 23:25.16 | to_ | oki thx |
| 23:25.19 | YOLT | i just came back from staple the NIC is 20 dollars. the cheap bad one. you see there is no 5 dollars thing |
| 23:26.39 | buu | Hmph. |
| 23:26.43 | kelan | gandy909: then maybe just uninstalling xinetd will work? :) i'm not sure |
| 23:26.45 | buu | Maybe something can burn it |
| 23:26.54 | kelan | gandy909: let me know how it turns out:) |
| 23:27.13 | gandy909 | kelan, hehe, I will... here goes nuthin! |
| 23:27.34 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Oh, I also discovered what the problem was with the 1.2.0 blootbot. |
| 23:27.53 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: ftpGet() mangles (large) files it downloads. |
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| 23:29.16 | gandy909 | kelan, great! It even restarted inetd when it was done |
| 23:29.30 | kelan | gandy909: nice:) |
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| 23:32.11 | paulswm | YOLT: you could have simply looked it up on staples.com and saved youself the trip. |
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| 23:33.10 | paulswm | What's the point in having the intarweb if one is going to rush all over the place instead of pointing and clicking? |
| 23:33.26 | YOLT | paulswm i was on my way to buy an office chair and finished a job interview |
| 23:33.44 | paulswm | YOLT: How did the interview go? |
| 23:33.49 | tga | any idea how I can switch an Orinoco card to Managed mode? |
| 23:33.55 | tga | erm.. Master mode rather |
| 23:34.22 | gandy909 | I have a low pid process [i2oevtd <defunct>]. Do I need this thing? 30r4 |
| 23:34.34 | YOLT | paulswm: i think good its for working at hollister. do you know hollister? the dude said i had to change my whole wardrobe but he said they would help. so i think its ok |
| 23:35.08 | cafuego | tga: With an easly 2.6 kernel or a newish 2.4 kernel and ther 3rd party hermesap driver (requires closed firmware). |
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| 23:35.21 | cafuego | !pac paulswm |
| 23:35.26 | cafuego | blah |
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| 23:36.00 | cafuego | !hermesap |
| 23:36.14 | cafuego | tga: http://hunz.org/hermesap.html |
| 23:36.33 | cafuego | tga: Note you'll need devfs support in your kernel. |
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| 23:37.53 | YOLT | paulswm: are you in the continental US? |
| 23:38.00 | paulswm | YOLT: No, not familiar. |
| 23:38.20 | paulswm | YOLT: Kissimmee, FL |
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| 23:38.30 | paulswm | !fruitsmite cafuego |
| 23:38.52 | paulswm | I'm off, have a safe night everyone |
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| 23:39.09 | bucky | paulswm, off to see mickey |
| 23:39.40 | lawnchair | is there a program to watch waht a user is typing |
| 23:39.47 | lawnchair | in real time etc |
| 23:39.52 | paulswm | bucky: No, off to eat and watch TV, I see Mickey enough during office hours :) |
| 23:39.57 | FieldySnuts | if you don't trust a user, don't have them as a user |
| 23:40.10 | FieldySnuts | unlikely you'll find anyone here to help violate privacy |
| 23:40.17 | lawnchair | uh |
| 23:40.25 | lawnchair | right... |
| 23:40.27 | lawnchair | its my fuckin box |
| 23:40.34 | FieldySnuts | idiot. |
| 23:40.37 | lawnchair | yah you are |
| 23:41.01 | bucky | lawnchair, only the FBI has that program |
| 23:41.05 | lawnchair | heh |
| 23:41.16 | lawnchair | FieldySnuts, that turned me on...i kinda have a boner now |
| 23:41.53 | Ronin | wow did i ever look in the channel at the wrong time |
| 23:41.54 | bucky | lawnchair, what version of debian are you using? |
| 23:42.01 | lawnchair | bucky, the sexy one |
| 23:42.13 | bucky | lawnchair, which one is that? |
| 23:42.21 | lawnchair | heh sarge |
| 23:43.35 | sparr_ | i have a program id like to be run every N minutes while i have X running... but not when I dont. i could script a cron job to check if X is running, but is there a better way? |
| 23:43.35 | YOLT | who knows about usb cable modems |
| 23:44.50 | FieldySnuts | I do, they suck. get one with an ethernet interface, or if you insist, hack away at it till you give up. |
| 23:44.52 | justin | YOLT: most people know enough to get a real cable modem |
| 23:45.32 | idle- | arghg |
| 23:45.41 | YOLT | dude hey this modem has ethernet and may cable company gave it to me |
| 23:46.00 | justin | so if it has ethernet, why are you messing with usb? |
| 23:46.02 | FieldySnuts | then use the ethernet port, the usb interface is almost always proprietary and only works on windows |
| 23:46.11 | YOLT | cause i dont have a NIC i burnt it |
| 23:46.24 | bucky | lawnchair, so who's the big employer in Owings Mills ? |
| 23:46.48 | paulswm | Heh, my cable company tried to stick me with a USB but I made them give me an PCI card |
| 23:46.54 | FieldySnuts | you'll want another NIC then, because you will go insane trying to get the usb to work on it, and most likely not get it to work anyway |
| 23:47.03 | lawnchair | bucky, ? |
| 23:47.10 | YOLT | well dude i have no money understand that? |
| 23:47.20 | bucky | lawnchair, i mean like.. do you have a job? |
| 23:47.24 | lawnchair | bucky, yah |
| 23:47.27 | FieldySnuts | not our problem, this is a technical issue not a lack of money issue, could care less |
| 23:47.37 | FieldySnuts | and i see where this is going, so i'm bailing, have fun |
| 23:47.44 | paulswm | See ya FieldySnuts |
| 23:47.45 | lawnchair | FieldySnuts, i hope you die |
| 23:47.48 | bucky | lawnchair, so what kind of work is in Owings Mills ? |
| 23:47.56 | lawnchair | bucky, the kind that sucks? |
| 23:47.57 | YOLT | so how many debian isos should i get? |
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| 23:48.07 | paulswm | !moron lawnchair |
| 23:48.07 | dpkg | lawnchair: You are moron #92 |
| 23:48.11 | lawnchair | YES! |
| 23:48.24 | paulswm | :D |
| 23:48.36 | paulswm | night all |
| 23:48.38 | FieldySnuts | already ignored that tit ages ago |
| 23:48.40 | FieldySnuts | bye |
| 23:48.46 | plugwash | YOLT depends if you just wan't the basics and plan to get internet working on the box pretty quickly then just cd1 is fine |
| 23:48.48 | lawnchair | heh he called me a tit |
| 23:49.03 | plugwash | if you wan't to hae full flexibility with no internet connection you wan't the lot |
| 23:49.08 | YOLT | will cd 1 give me graphics? |
| 23:49.11 | Ronin | YOLT: just one the sarge netinst |
| 23:49.27 | YOLT | no dude i wont get internet on linux in a very long while |
| 23:49.32 | zinx | YOLT: why not? |
| 23:49.37 | YOLT | im pooor |
| 23:49.55 | FieldySnuts | damnit xchat needs /ignore -replies |
| 23:50.00 | FieldySnuts | list getting too big |
| 23:50.05 | zinx | YOLT: how're you on now? |
| 23:50.11 | toresbe | lawnchair: I hate what your nick represents :P |
| 23:50.13 | YOLT | USB windows |
| 23:50.14 | plugwash | i think the X stuff is on cd1 not sure though |
| 23:50.17 | lawnchair | toresbe, i hate you |
| 23:50.18 | zinx | USB? |
| 23:50.24 | YOLT | yes on usb |
| 23:50.27 | zinx | o_O |
| 23:50.43 | toresbe | probably means stored on a USB disk/stick |
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| 23:50.46 | zinx | USB to me means 'universal serial bus', and makes no sense in that context |
| 23:50.55 | zinx | toresbe: that'd make even less sense |
| 23:51.00 | YOLT | the cable modems connect to the usb port |
| 23:51.06 | plugwash | zinx i think he means a cable modem connected by usb |
| 23:51.12 | zinx | so you have internet, then |
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| 23:51.18 | YOLT | yes i do |
| 23:51.33 | zinx | YOLT: what's the USB vendor/product id of it? |
| 23:51.40 | YOLT | of what?? |
| 23:51.54 | zinx | YOLT: the USB ethernet device you have plugged in to your machine |
| 23:52.01 | zinx | i.e., your cable modem |
| 23:52.10 | YOLT | motorola surfboard sb5120 |
| 23:52.39 | zinx | that's not exactyl what i wanted, but here: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Motorola-Surfboard-Modem/index.shtml |
| 23:52.49 | YOLT | been there done that |
| 23:52.57 | fhffhqvb | YOLT: use the ethernet port./ |
| 23:52.59 | zinx | that tells you how to use the USB interface |
| 23:52.59 | bucky | Owings Mills, Maryland Drug Rehab and Alcohol Addiction Treatment Information |
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| 23:53.08 | bucky | http://www.stopaddiction.com/states/maryland_drug_rehab_info~Owings+Mills.html |
| 23:53.10 | zinx | if you have no ethernet card |
| 23:53.13 | Ronin | or even easier tomorrow go buy a cheapy nic card and slap it in the box |
| 23:53.30 | YOLT | i dont have 20 bucks understand that |
| 23:53.39 | zinx | you can use the USB interface you're using right now |
| 23:53.55 | Ronin | dont buy your beer/smokes/smoke/ etc then YOLT it may be easier on your head :) |
| 23:53.57 | fhffhqvb | YOLT: wait. you have cable and you don't have $20? |
| 23:54.00 | YOLT | ok i tried to read that but im confused maybe you try to help me a bit more please |
| 23:54.10 | YOLT | my mom pays for it |
| 23:54.12 | zinx | it even has instructions for debian specificly |
| 23:54.13 | FieldySnuts | we've already been through it he don't want to, just let him be stubborn |
| 23:54.26 | zinx | YOLT: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Motorola-Surfboard-Modem/usb.shtml |
| 23:54.29 | jim | YOLT: been there? good... done -what-? |
| 23:54.29 | YOLT | hey you FieldySnuts get out of this |
| 23:54.32 | YOLT | ok im search |
| 23:54.38 | FieldySnuts | @fuck YOLT |
| 23:54.40 | YOLT | but i dont even have debian yet |
| 23:54.41 | fhffhqvb | a realtek 8139 is maybe 5-6 dollah. |
| 23:54.59 | YOLT | no it not it dont have them at staples or wal mart |
| 23:55.08 | zinx | YOLT: for this specific setup, it's probably easier to get CD 1 and not worry about what's on it; it's enough of a distribution to get you what you need to connect to the internet |
| 23:55.14 | bucky | YOLT get yer mom to get you one |
| 23:55.24 | zinx | YOLT: after you're connected, you can get anything you need |
| 23:55.31 | YOLT | ok thank you |
| 23:55.41 | Ronin | YOLT: staples sure does, i got 2 before from them for $10cdn |
| 23:55.42 | zinx | YOLT: so get CD 1, install, then follow the instructions for setting up your cable modem via USB |
| 23:55.54 | YOLT | ok zinx thank you |
| 23:55.55 | zinx | YOLT: then read up on how to add some sources from the internet |
| 23:56.15 | zinx | YOLT: and read up on apt-get / other front-ends in general, 'cause they're very useful to know about |
| 23:56.32 | jim | ever used unix or linux before? |
| 23:56.47 | YOLT | yes. i have used linux. wait if cd1 doesn have graphical interface how do i use the internet. |
| 23:57.04 | zinx | YOLT: you can read the help from other OSs you're more familiar with |
| 23:57.05 | Nigel | lol... |
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| 23:57.29 | smo_ | hi |
| 23:57.33 | Nigel | YOLT: lynx/links |
| 23:57.37 | zinx | YOLT: but fwiw, CD1 has the most common stuff, which includes X, a window manager, and a good bit of utilities |
| 23:57.58 | YOLT | ok dokey. if it has gui then im happy |
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| 23:58.29 | jim | you'll be reading up on how to set it up |
| 23:58.35 | smo_ | i have a problem to create a script , problem is about the pid i can t find where 's writed this pid no .pid in /var/run and i can list the soft by ps -e |
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| 23:59.40 | jim | smo_: /msg dpkg sicco /msg dpkg smart questions |
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| 23:59.42 | cuti | g++: /usr/lib/libwx_gtk_xrc-2.4.so: No such file or directory |
| 23:59.48 | cuti | what file i need people? |
