| 00:00.09 | Azar | I hope so xtension ... I hope so |
| 00:00.35 | Supaplex | !dead |
| 00:00.36 | dpkg | yes :( |
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| 00:00.58 | danko123456 | :) |
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| 00:01.41 | loocek | does cron can run something every a few seconds ? |
| 00:02.09 | Supaplex | loocek: did you read the man pages? |
| 00:02.23 | loocek | no |
| 00:02.30 | Azar | Sarge: 30 May 2005 Release |
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| 00:02.51 | danko123456 | is that new debian released today? I keep hearing hints on that... |
| 00:02.59 | pekkele | how to unzip tar.bz2 ?!?1 |
| 00:03.05 | Dashiva | if you wish really, really hard |
| 00:03.32 | danko123456 | Dashiva: see, I use ubuntu...Im just wondering.. |
| 00:03.35 | Supaplex | loocek: apropos cron will get you started. |
| 00:03.52 | Supaplex | danko123456: exit stage left, /j #ubuntu |
| 00:03.53 | xtension | pekkele use tar -xvjf file |
| 00:03.55 | danko123456 | tar -xjf *.tar.bz2 |
| 00:04.08 | Dashiva | danko123456, just use debian unstable...it's not a matter of static releases |
| 00:04.09 | Supaplex | danko123456: oh nm. I see your previous statement. :) |
| 00:04.15 | danko123456 | Supaplex: exit stage right, freedom of being where you want:) |
| 00:04.45 | danko123456 | beat me by a stroke of an enter key. |
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| 00:05.01 | danko123456 | Dashiva: so it was not released today? I keep hearing stuff about that today... |
| 00:05.12 | abrotman | danko123456: no .. it was not |
| 00:05.24 | silverton | Is there a command that regenerates the "applications" in the gnome ui ? |
| 00:05.34 | abrotman | update-menus ? |
| 00:05.37 | Dashiva | danko123456, but releases don't matter...if you use unstable...it's constantly updated |
| 00:05.39 | Supaplex | it'll be released before the next starwars episode is released in theaters. |
| 00:05.54 | danko123456 | :) |
| 00:06.14 | silverton | >:O It's still there... |
| 00:06.16 | danko123456 | silverton, killall gnome-panel maybe, dunno. |
| 00:07.14 | silverton | danko123456, that didn't do it :( |
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| 00:07.20 | abrotman | silverton: regenerate why ? |
| 00:07.43 | danko123456 | ok, how the f** am I supposed to know which way is the right way to insert a stick of Ram?:) |
| 00:07.47 | danko123456 | RAM... |
| 00:07.55 | silverton | ... |
| 00:08.03 | abrotman | danko123456: it only goes in one way maybe ? |
| 00:08.04 | silverton | abrotman, so it gets rid of things that don't exist any more |
| 00:08.06 | abrotman | idiot |
| 00:08.08 | danko123456 | it is symmetrical |
| 00:08.09 | Supaplex | danko123456: get your A+ smertification? |
| 00:08.13 | abrotman | danko123456: no .. it's not |
| 00:08.19 | danko123456 | I find it is... |
| 00:08.26 | danko123456 | maybe I have a cookie,... |
| 00:08.30 | danko123456 | and not a RAM stickk:) |
| 00:08.33 | abrotman | danko123456: what kind of RAM ? |
| 00:08.54 | danko123456 | sdram |
| 00:08.57 | danko123456 | pc100 |
| 00:08.57 | xtension | silverton kappfinder |
| 00:08.59 | abrotman | only goes in one way |
| 00:09.08 | abrotman | if you forced .. congratulations .. you need a new mobo |
| 00:09.12 | danko123456 | want a digi pic? |
| 00:09.22 | danko123456 | nono, i asked... |
| 00:09.23 | Supaplex | danko123456: free shipping? |
| 00:09.30 | abrotman | danko123456: trust me .. i have tons of the crap .. it only goes in one way |
| 00:09.42 | danko123456 | Supaplex: in electronic format, yes... |
| 00:09.49 | silverton | .... |
| 00:09.54 | silverton | xtension, that's for KDE... |
| 00:10.03 | xtension | silverton i knwo |
| 00:10.04 | Supaplex | danko123456: oh, missed the i in pic. haha. nm. :) |
| 00:10.08 | danko123456 | hehe, well, it is syummetrical in some sense, I believe since this one has it in one way, Ill try that way first, and if I meet resistance try the other. |
| 00:10.22 | abrotman | danko123456: fine .. go fucking ask #hardware .. it's offtopic here |
| 00:10.25 | xtension | silverton kde is so easy compared to gnome |
| 00:10.32 | resiak | !start a de war |
| 00:10.39 | silverton | um... that isn't exactly what I came here for |
| 00:10.51 | danko123456 | !tell abrotman about his soap for his mouth... |
| 00:11.05 | abrotman | danko123456: go fucking ask #hardware |
| 00:11.13 | danko123456 | I wont if you dont say please.. |
| 00:11.18 | danko123456 | :) |
| 00:11.23 | abrotman | i don't give a shit .. moron |
| 00:11.31 | danko123456 | haha |
| 00:11.41 | danko123456 | I find joy in your stress.. |
| 00:11.47 | Azar | since I am at it, I am usually "guessing" but this time I would like to ask: in Configuring Debconf, what interface you suggest to pick for configuring packages: Dialog, Readline, Gnome, Kde or Editor?... I usually go with Dialog |
| 00:11.56 | abrotman | i'm not stressed .. and why would i be .. i'm not the total idiot |
| 00:12.02 | xtension | Azar readline |
| 00:12.08 | danko123456 | neither am I so thats settled... |
| 00:12.21 | Azar | thanks xtension... |
| 00:12.23 | abrotman | danko123456: apparently .. you are |
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| 00:12.43 | danko123456 | appearences can be deceiving...go read some book instead of all the manuals...:) |
| 00:12.54 | Supaplex | Azar: that's almost like asking what kind of personal care product you should use. *g* |
| 00:12.59 | xtension | silverton anyway gnome should have some same application .... |
| 00:13.01 | abrotman | how long has he been trolling ? |
| 00:13.16 | danko123456 | I am not trolling, I never use words like you... |
| 00:13.30 | xtension | do |
| 00:13.33 | danko123456 | just drop it dude, please..:) I am sorry to have caused you mental trouble... |
| 00:13.54 | abrotman | ok .. RAM only goes in one way .. if yours goes in both ways .. you've broken something |
| 00:14.23 | danko123456 | ok, well, no, I hacvebnt put it in, it looks symmetrical, if you understand that word:) Im sure you do, jj... |
| 00:14.31 | abrotman | danko123456: i have no mental problems relating to your RAM .. but when someone tells you that 168pin PC100 SDRAM only goes in one way .. believe them |
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| 00:14.48 | xtension | danko123456 then put it in |
| 00:14.50 | Guerin | wtf |
| 00:14.52 | Supaplex | abrotman: it's not sdram, it's trans-sexual ram! ;) |
| 00:14.53 | Lee__ | but you have to lightly toast it first, for maximum memory performance. |
| 00:14.59 | bucky | it's Sunday? |
| 00:15.06 | Guerin | how could you think it goes in either way? |
| 00:15.06 | abrotman | bucky: super sunday!!! |
| 00:15.17 | danko123456 | I believe you:) I just noticed it is symmetrical, so I noted uit:) |
| 00:15.28 | xtension | danko123456 and see how your bios likes it |
| 00:15.35 | abrotman | danko123456: but it's not |
| 00:15.40 | xtension | danko123456 you assume |
| 00:15.45 | Guerin | sdram is NOT symmetrical |
| 00:15.58 | danko123456 | no, no, I am confident I wont screw it up, thanksd for the tip for the one side... |
| 00:16.03 | Supaplex | danko123456: ok, you win, now install it already. |
| 00:16.08 | abrotman | danko123456: if you force it in .. you've broken one of the pieces . either the RAM or the Mobo .. and it would need replaced |
| 00:16.09 | danko123456 | ah, I see. |
| 00:16.18 | danko123456 | I see how its not symmetrical... |
| 00:16.35 | Guerin | it's not two identical sides when bisected? |
| 00:16.38 | xtension | danko123456 youre great |
| 00:16.40 | Guerin | amazing |
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| 00:16.51 | bucky | he's a fast learner |
| 00:16.54 | Guerin | eyeometer wins the day! |
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| 00:17.17 | danko123456 | thanks, eh? |
| 00:17.22 | Supaplex | someone add that to !qotd0 or something :P |
| 00:17.40 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Yeah. But it does go in if you try hard enough. Granted it gets *really* hot and won't boot. |
| 00:17.47 | danko123456 | abrotman: no, I was not goignn to force it in... |
| 00:17.51 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: or snaps plastic :) |
| 00:17.52 | Azar | xtension, on Configuring the Setserial I am confused.. what should I pick: autosave once, or kernel... the others look too hard for me to understand |
| 00:17.58 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: anything will go in if you try hard enough... |
| 00:18.01 | xtension | danko123456 im happy you found a use for your heads internals |
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| 00:18.05 | abrotman | Guerin: bunneh? |
| 00:18.17 | xtension | Azar autosave once |
| 00:18.18 | danko123456 | thats why I asked... try look on the side with which you are going to insert, and tit is divided into three parts, on one side it is shorter next time...:) |
| 00:18.28 | Guerin | abrotman: I bet I could cram bunneh into a sdram slot, given the right tools |
| 00:18.28 | xtension | danko123456 what tit ? |
| 00:18.29 | Supaplex | Azar: just stick with the defaults until you determine what the others are about. (ask professor google) |
| 00:18.34 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Didn't snap no. |
| 00:18.35 | Azar | xtension, thanks |
| 00:18.44 | danko123456 | xtension: hehe, well, I think my internals of my head are fine... |
| 00:18.48 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i had a friend crack his mobo .. putting ram in the correct way :) |
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| 00:18.54 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Yeah. As I well know. Lucky for me it wasn't my stick. |
| 00:18.59 | xtension | danko123456 anyway your bios will tell you if you did the right thing |
| 00:19.04 | abrotman | or explode |
| 00:19.12 | danko123456 | nono, it only goes in one way... |
| 00:19.19 | danko123456 | as I told you from the start:-p |
| 00:19.21 | danko123456 | jj, thanks. |
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| 00:19.34 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Ouch. I've made just about every mistake possible with hardware but never cracked anything. |
| 00:19.37 | abrotman | what an idiot |
| 00:19.38 | bucky | he was right all along |
| 00:19.44 | danko123456 | I think Ill ask you guys more questions when I have them, I like you guys... |
| 00:19.52 | danko123456 | bucky, lol:) |
| 00:19.55 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: yeah .. he's a developer ... |
| 00:20.06 | bucky | it's the old "I've been using linux for a while now" |
| 00:20.08 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Ahhhh. Yes makes sense now. |
| 00:20.26 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: luckily .. x86 .. not SPARC mobo or something $$ |
| 00:20.28 | Guerin | !thomas_adam's theorem |
| 00:20.28 | dpkg | well, thomas_adam's theorem is a debian user's uselessness is directly proportional to the probability that s/he will mention "I've been using debian for X years, but I still can't..." |
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| 00:20.32 | danko123456 | abrotman: I am 22, so what, I know lots, you dont even kno me:) |
| 00:20.32 | Guerin | bucky: ^^^ |
| 00:20.43 | abrotman | danko123456: and if i did .. i would ignore you :) |
| 00:20.49 | scarynetworkguy | Hehe. |
| 00:20.50 | danko123456 | I am respected everywhere I go, and in a while you will surely too:) |
| 00:20.55 | scarynetworkguy | And in honour of the man. |
| 00:21.00 | thomas_adam | Yeah, it's true. I've seen it with my own eyes. |
| 00:21.00 | scarynetworkguy | !be thomas_adam barbie |
| 00:21.01 | dpkg | fvwm is sooo cool. Let's go shopping, teehee. |
| 00:21.09 | Supaplex | haha |
| 00:21.12 | bucky | !irritate danko123456 |
| 00:21.13 | dpkg | danko123456: hi every1 who uses gnome thx |
| 00:21.15 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yeah. |
| 00:21.41 | danko123456 | hey, I am not that easy to iritate+ I know that would be a plus for you, so...:) |
| 00:21.54 | bucky | ur so L33t |
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| 00:22.04 | Supaplex | danko123456 |
| 00:22.10 | MobyTurbo | !ur |
| 00:22.11 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 00:22.12 | xtension | danko123456 make me laugh |
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| 00:22.19 | danko123456 | how? |
| 00:22.40 | danko123456 | let me install that RAM, ill be back... |
| 00:22.40 | xtension | danko123456 you re the one that knows lots |
| 00:22.45 | abrotman | just start talking again :) |
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| 00:22.58 | danko123456 | xtension: no, I mean, its not like I was just born, or am brain damaged... |
| 00:23.05 | js_ | ur is also a swedish prefix from something ver old |
| 00:23.07 | abrotman | danko123456: are you a doctor ? |
| 00:23.08 | Supaplex | but both |
| 00:23.10 | js_ | very* |
| 00:23.10 | xtension | danko123456 you justpretend |
| 00:23.11 | js_ | :o |
| 00:23.16 | danko123456 | ppl dont get born with knowledge, + believe it or not...I have installed ram already... |
| 00:23.18 | Guerin | danko123456: i know. it's just that you lack common sense. |
| 00:23.23 | Guerin | that's not unusual, really |
| 00:23.27 | danko123456 | nono, Im fione with that too, |
| 00:23.32 | Guerin | common sense is anything but common, nowadays |
| 00:23.36 | bucky | next question... "which cd's do i need" |
| 00:23.36 | abrotman | if you're not a doctor .. you're not qualified to say if you're brain damaged or not |
| 00:23.42 | danko123456 | but, you guys on the other hand, could use some CS training, the other CS... |
| 00:23.49 | abrotman | isn't he using ubuntu ? |
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| 00:23.53 | Guerin | counterstrike? |
| 00:23.53 | carcrashnights | Is it acceptable to install with the testing release, and then change sources to unstable? |
| 00:23.54 | danko123456 | :) nice, abrotman, got me there.. |
| 00:23.55 | Supaplex | bucky: you really only need the installer cd if you have network access. |
| 00:24.04 | Guerin | carcrashnights: no. |
| 00:24.07 | abrotman | carcrashnights: yes .. but undersatnd stuff may break |
| 00:24.15 | abrotman | !unstable |
| 00:24.15 | dpkg | i guess unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. See testing. see sid |
| 00:24.15 | Guerin | !lart abrotman |
| 00:24.45 | Supaplex | whew, a free haircut. |
| 00:24.50 | carcrashnights | How will the sources change after the official release? |
| 00:24.56 | abrotman | carcrashnights: for what ? |
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| 00:24.59 | Guerin | !sarge upgrade path |
| 00:24.59 | dpkg | Ok, here's how stable/testing debian upgrades will work once sarge stabilises: If your sources.list says "woody", you'll stay with woody. If it says "sarge", you'll upgrade to sarge. If it says "stable", it'll upgrade to sarge, the new stable. If it says "testing", your sarge box will upgrade to etch, the new testing. Any questions? |
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| 00:25.21 | carcrashnights | lol |
| 00:25.26 | JasonF | will the sarge CD1 have built in support for one of these cards: 20:21 < JasonF> acx100 |
| 00:25.29 | JasonF | er |
| 00:25.33 | JasonF | my paste is borked |
| 00:25.37 | carcrashnights | That's one way of dealing with repeat questions. |
| 00:25.38 | JasonF | http://acx100.sf.net |
| 00:25.51 | abrotman | JasonF: does 2.6.8 have support ? |
| 00:25.51 | Guerin | JasonF: is it in the mainline linux kernel? |
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| 00:26.05 | Supaplex | abrotman: support for what? life? |
| 00:26.06 | JasonF | I don't believe it does |
| 00:26.15 | abrotman | JasonF: then no |
| 00:26.20 | Guerin | JasonF: then it's unlikely to. What sort of card is it? |
| 00:26.20 | JasonF | blah |
| 00:26.21 | abrotman | but isn't that a wifi card ? |
| 00:26.24 | JasonF | yes, it's wifi |
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| 00:26.41 | abrotman | JasonF: no 10/100/1000 card in it ? |
| 00:26.41 | Supaplex | it's even *cough* standardized |
| 00:26.45 | Guerin | get a real fucking ethernet card for $5 from your local mum and dad computer shop |
| 00:26.55 | JasonF | abrotman: no 10/100 cable TO it |
| 00:26.56 | abrotman | Guerin: wanna bet it's a laptop :) |
| 00:27.03 | JasonF | the router is on the opposite side of the house |
| 00:27.16 | JasonF | not by my choice, I have no option but to wifi, even though I hate it |
| 00:27.21 | Guerin | JasonF: move the computer for long enough to install. |
| 00:27.31 | danko123456 | Im sure you are not really interested, well, kinda, anyhow....but the thing with this RAM installation is that I am putting it into a HP minitower, totally cluttered, its not even accessible, taht is most of my trouble... |
| 00:27.42 | JasonF | Guerin: that's not a solution I'm going to entertain |
| 00:27.49 | scarynetworkguy | JasonF: What wifi card do you have? |
| 00:27.52 | abrotman | JasonF: move the router :) |
| 00:27.55 | Guerin | buy products which are properly supported in future, and NEVER buy a computer without Real Ethernet. |
| 00:27.55 | JasonF | scarynetworkguy: acx100 |
| 00:28.02 | JasonF | abrotman: no phone jack in room with the computer |
| 00:28.03 | xtension | danko123456 screwdriver |
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| 00:28.11 | Guerin | i can't believe people do that shit |
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| 00:28.16 | JasonF | Guerin: I have REAL ETHERNET |
| 00:28.17 | Supaplex | Guerin: so realtek is real internet eh? ;) |
| 00:28.21 | abrotman | JasonF: you can burn the full CDs .. then compile the driver after the base install |
| 00:28.28 | JasonF | abrotman: *shiver* |
| 00:28.30 | scarynetworkguy | JasonF: And what version of Debian are you trying to install with it? |
| 00:28.32 | danko123456 | xtension: well, I wish I had one:) been using knives for months know, the spread knives, you know... |
| 00:28.40 | Guerin | Supaplex: supported in free software, works perfectly and automatically; yes. |
| 00:28.43 | danko123456 | And, the case is fubar anyhow... |
| 00:28.43 | JasonF | scarynetworkguy: I would hopefully do sarge, to later put in some sid stuff with |
| 00:28.48 | abrotman | JasonF: hey .. you're the one with the wacky restrictions :) |
| 00:28.50 | JasonF | I've had deb on this box before, when I had a wired connection |
| 00:28.53 | JasonF | abrotman: lol |
| 00:28.59 | scarynetworkguy | JasonF: Just get a supported card. |
| 00:29.05 | xtension | danko123456 wanna sell that piece of crap then ? |
| 00:29.08 | abrotman | JasonF: does it have debian now ? |
| 00:29.16 | JasonF | scarynetworkguy: yeah, I think I'm going to just buy a aberos (sp?) silver card from a friend |
| 00:29.17 | danko123456 | xtension: no, its my friends, a girl... |
| 00:29.29 | danko123456 | I just bought the RAM, think Im selling it? |
| 00:29.40 | xtension | danko123456 she gonna be so greatfull when you go to all this trouble forher |
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| 00:29.50 | danko123456 | bahaha... |
| 00:30.05 | danko123456 | she is an ungrateful bitchX you never seen the likes of... |
| 00:30.18 | danko123456 | Or maybe did, think worst person you ever met... |
| 00:30.31 | danko123456 | and someone you really know, not some lame-o on #debian... |
| 00:30.31 | xtension | danko123456 i thought i heard you say yo u never use that kinda language |
| 00:30.38 | Guerin | danko123456: i wouldn't fix a computer for the worst person I ever met. |
| 00:30.41 | xtension | danko123456 unbuntu eh ? |
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| 00:30.47 | Supaplex | danko123456: so you're breaking up? |
| 00:30.51 | danko123456 | I am a nice person, what can I say...(sucker...) |
| 00:31.01 | Guerin | yup |
| 00:31.02 | danko123456 | Broke up allready, thank god...OT... |
| 00:31.05 | Supaplex | abrotman: no doubt! let's book a flight now before the rush :P |
| 00:31.13 | xtension | danko123456 get a screwdriver .... |
| 00:31.18 | abrotman | Supaplex: i already have one for June 16th or so :) |
| 00:31.32 | abrotman | Guerin: good plan .. |
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| 00:31.39 | danko123456 | xtension: I dont think that I could dissemble this case without a manual for it, it is one weird piece of metal... |
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| 00:31.52 | xtension | danko123456 nothing a hammer dont fix |
| 00:31.54 | danko123456 | hey, Ill make a digi pic for you to see:) |
| 00:31.56 | Supaplex | depends on the definition of "fix" heh |
| 00:32.03 | danko123456 | I bought a new camera, you know... |
| 00:32.10 | xtension | danko123456 can you put a picture online ? |
| 00:32.13 | abrotman | no .. we didn't |
| 00:32.23 | xtension | danko123456 can we see it ? |
| 00:32.36 | danko123456 | yeah, I am gonna make it for you to see^^^ |
| 00:32.45 | TwistedEmotions | Question... to reboot in XFCE4 I need to have a user name "foo" have enough access to restart... guessing it uses init 6 command... any ideas on how to do that? |
| 00:33.03 | abrotman | man shutdown ? |
| 00:33.08 | danko123456 | I am a CS student, abrotman... |
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| 00:33.16 | TwistedEmotions | hahahha |
| 00:33.19 | danko123456 | An A student when I dont get high too much... |
| 00:33.23 | abrotman | danko123456: and you still thought SDRAM was symmetrical ? |
| 00:33.35 | TwistedEmotions | CS - State School - Not bad at best. |
| 00:33.41 | danko123456 | welll from one point it is...I wasnt thinking the bottom part...I was thinking sides. |
| 00:33.49 | abrotman | though .. i've seen some really bad CS students |
| 00:34.00 | danko123456 | And you, being an expert, I suggest a course in communications, and not tele... |
| 00:34.18 | ketter | not again |
| 00:34.19 | abrotman | danko123456: i communicate just fine .. i told you three times it wasn't symmetrical :) |
| 00:34.23 | danko123456 | :) |
| 00:34.25 | js_ | im a bad student |
| 00:34.35 | TwistedEmotions | js_: is the worst... |
| 00:34.36 | Supaplex | js_: bad student, no doughnut |
| 00:34.38 | danko123456 | just a sec, the picture is coming. |
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| 00:35.08 | TwistedEmotions | js_: is sexually active and smokes "DOPE".. your evil.. |
| 00:35.10 | xtension | danko123456 you photograph in dim lights |
| 00:35.13 | Supaplex | I wonder if krispy kreeme is open today |
| 00:35.26 | abrotman | call them? |
| 00:35.36 | danko123456 | xtension: what makes you say that? |
| 00:35.43 | TwistedEmotions | Someone has got to know how to give a user access to init6 ... cmon guys. |
| 00:35.49 | Supaplex | they're on my way to a bbq, no need. |
| 00:35.50 | abrotman | man shutdown |
| 00:35.54 | TwistedEmotions | ohhh |
| 00:35.59 | abrotman | 2nd time :) |
| 00:36.00 | xtension | the problem with students it that they think they know all |
| 00:36.02 | Supaplex | TwistedEmotions: what abrotman said |
| 00:36.14 | TwistedEmotions | I thought you were talking about what someone else said |
| 00:36.15 | xtension | the problem with students it that they think are sure know all |
| 00:36.17 | danko123456 | see Ill give you a tip, there, abrotman, use ppls nicks in front of their solution... |
| 00:36.24 | xtension | something |
| 00:36.24 | abrotman | !ppl |
| 00:36.24 | dpkg | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many? |
| 00:37.02 | danko123456 | xtension: I dont think I know all...I know I know nothing;) |
| 00:37.03 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: it's not rocket science, mate. use sudo. |
| 00:37.03 | xtension | danko123456 thats the same bull |
| 00:37.09 | danko123456 | Again, go read literature, not only man pages:-p |
| 00:37.11 | Supaplex | danko123456: you know that ram either is or isn't symetrical now, don't you? :) |
| 00:37.19 | danko123456 | altho, I cant say any of that for myself:( |
| 00:37.27 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: It's a feature built into XFCE4... I cant edit the command.. |
| 00:37.28 | danko123456 | well, we have settled that one... |
| 00:37.34 | xtension | danko123456 thanks for your concern |
| 00:37.53 | danko123456 | THe truth is, regardless of who was right, that RAM can go in one way... |
| 00:38.03 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: funny... i managed to. |
| 00:38.08 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: I'm sure I *can* somewhere but would rather find the right way to give it access anyways.. |
| 00:38.16 | danko123456 | I am a philosopher...not a debater,...I look for truth, not to be right myself...:) I wish anyhow... |
| 00:38.18 | abrotman | i already told you how |
| 00:38.34 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: it probably CALLS sudo shitdown -r now |
| 00:38.39 | Guerin | or shutdown, even |
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| 00:38.43 | Supaplex | danko123456: so you make stuff up until is sounds right. |
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| 00:39.13 | Supaplex | Guerin: nice slip :-S |
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| 00:39.22 | xtension | danko123456 so tell me one universal truth |
| 00:39.39 | danko123456 | well, that RAM is supposed to go in one way... |
| 00:39.40 | xtension | danko123456 or are you just looking |
| 00:39.42 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: if it calls sudo shutdown the wtf is the problem? |
| 00:39.49 | green_earz | xtension: i think so there for i am |
| 00:39.56 | xtension | green_earz fool |
| 00:40.00 | danko123456 | And that is the way I did put it in eventually, with much appreciated help from you guys... |
| 00:40.00 | TwistedEmotions | if I run sudo shutdown in console shutsdown |
| 00:40.14 | Supaplex | green_earz: I think I think, therefore ... |
| 00:40.14 | green_earz | xtension: why |
| 00:40.18 | xtension | green_earz thats a fundamental mistake |
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| 00:40.35 | Azar | ok so I am in Sarge now, with 2.4.18 kernel should I reboot before upgrading the kernel? |
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| 00:40.51 | MobyTurbo | Azar: after |
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| 00:41.15 | Supaplex | Azar: reboot into the same kernel, then upgrade? ask yourself again. :) |
| 00:41.22 | endomandi | !hi |
| 00:41.22 | dpkg | hello, endomandi |
| 00:41.50 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: got sudo? |
| 00:42.05 | danko123456 | ok, here it is... http://207.161.57.251/comp/ |
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| 00:42.09 | Azar | thanks MobyTurbo, I was a bit confused by this paragraph in the Sarge release notes: However, you a strongly advised _not_ to upgrade to a 2.6 kernel as part of the upgrade from woody to sarge. Some issues associated with an upgrade to 2.6 are documented in Section 5.2, `Upgrading to a 2.6 kernel'. |
| 00:42.10 | MobyTurbo | Azar: this isn't Windows, the about only thing you need to reboot for is *after* (not before) a kernel upgrade |
| 00:42.23 | danko123456 | just s ec tho... |
| 00:42.29 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: yeah... but I think your right... I thing I need to change sudo so user ash has no password or something to that effect |
| 00:42.31 | MobyTurbo | Azar: yes, just use a Sarge 2.4 kernel |
| 00:42.33 | abrotman | i do it for libc6 also .. not needed .. but it makes me feel warm and fuzzy :) |
| 00:42.42 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: yes. |
| 00:42.58 | xtension | danko123456 its a damn small pc too ! |
| 00:42.58 | Azar | aha so I first go to a 2.4 from Sarge then upgrade to 2.6.x |
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| 00:43.09 | green_earz | xtension: thats a fundamental mistake, yes if you think that we are just machines |
| 00:43.26 | MobyTurbo | Azar: I don't think that will help |
| 00:43.29 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 00:43.34 | xtension | green_earz you mistake thinking for being |
| 00:43.45 | Azar | um so not upgrade to 2.6.x ? |
| 00:43.51 | danko123456 | xtension: Im saying...see where the ram is hidden...and see how I unscrewed the cd, and it never budged.... |
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| 00:44.06 | danko123456 | the link works now, btw... |
| 00:44.10 | MobyTurbo | Azar: read the section of the upgrade docs to see what to do. |
| 00:44.14 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: you sexy slut... thanks worked... * TwistedLappy has quit |
| 00:44.54 | Azar | ok thanks MobyTurbo |
| 00:44.55 | xtension | danko123456 you can open the box from the other side |
| 00:44.55 | MobyTurbo | Azar: I'm in the middle of a kernel upgrade myself, bbiab. |
| 00:44.55 | quitte | halt |
| 00:44.55 | quitte | argh! |
| 00:44.56 | danko123456 | I dont think so... I mean, I need a manual for the thing to open, I broke the decoration parts while opening those.... |
| 00:45.11 | Supaplex | is it my imagination, or does xmms actually sound noticibly better in sarge? it's like new life in these mp3's... |
| 00:45.17 | xtension | danko123456 you ve been wrong before so ... |
| 00:45.20 | danko123456 | and Im not that green as it seems...Ive opened a few since I was 7 when I first seen a comp... |
| 00:45.29 | abrotman | Supaplex: could be new driver for your sound card |
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| 00:45.40 | xtension | danko123456 then you ll fix it , im sure |
| 00:46.03 | danko123456 | no, yeah, I am confident, as I said...just the thing is so damn small and cluttered... |
| 00:46.03 | Supaplex | abrotman: kernel is unchanged tho |
| 00:46.07 | TwistedLappy | Weee eveything works |
| 00:46.21 | TwistedLappy | Supaplex: did you run grub update or lilo -v |
| 00:46.55 | Supaplex | TwistedLappy: why? |
| 00:47.08 | pekkele | what is best game in linux :-) |
| 00:47.20 | abrotman | happypenguin.org |
| 00:47.24 | Dashiva | pekkele, bash 3.0 |
| 00:47.24 | TwistedLappy | Supaplex: thought you installed the new kernel you have to write the updated info to MBR |
| 00:47.36 | abrotman | pekkele: /j #bub-n-bros |
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| 00:47.55 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: Do you use lilo or brug? |
| 00:47.56 | Supaplex | TwistedLappy: I don't have issues with grub. it's working fine. |
| 00:47.58 | TwistedEmotions | *grub |
| 00:48.18 | pekkele | why dont somebody make counter strike for linux :d |
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| 00:48.25 | green_earz | pekkele: check out armagetron |
| 00:48.26 | danko123456 | Dashiva: yeah, that game is pretty good, I like that one best too, my choice bash as well. |
| 00:48.27 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: for it to SHOW/USE the new kernel you have to TELL it that there is a NEW kernel that you are trying to use... |
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| 00:48.44 | Guerin | irc is the best game by far |
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| 00:48.48 | abrotman | pekkele: ask them . not us |
| 00:48.56 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: your trying to use a new kernel right? |
| 00:48.56 | Supaplex | TwistedEmotions: woah there fella. nothings broken, and i don't need to fix anything. are you assuming otherwise? |
| 00:49.12 | danko123456 | isnt there one, I think there is..plus thats a lame killing game, play nice games with penguins... |
| 00:49.32 | danko123456 | that are nice and full, and want to sit down instead of run around and kill or b killed. |
| 00:49.36 | Supaplex | Guerin: multiplayer realtime textfiles! wahou! :-D |
| 00:49.39 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: Werent you trying to use a new kernel? |
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| 00:50.00 | Guerin | Supaplex: yup. it's really cool, I've been going for YEARS on this one life... |
| 00:50.17 | Guerin | ... but other people can barely last minutes! |
| 00:50.24 | Supaplex | TwistedEmotions: nope. I upgraded to sarge a few days ago, and since then, xmms has been a little sweeter. :) I'm in a little awe because I can tell a difference. |
| 00:50.47 | Guerin | graah, work |
| 00:50.55 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: Ahhhh... I thought you were trying to install a new kernel... sorry I'm nuts. |
| 00:51.38 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know how to get a laptop to try and standby? |
| 00:52.03 | danko123456 | xtension: if you want you can check out other pictures here: http://207.161.57.251/ on the right hand side, under Noine Slike ... Kokosi ... Slike1 ... Slike2 ... Slike3 |
| 00:52.27 | Supaplex | TwistedEmotions: well, I did cheat. a few months back I swapped drives (primary,secondary). since the old secondary didn't have a boot record, I told the bios to use the new secondary (old master). I'll get around to grubifying the primary someday. (like when i reboot or something. *ha*) |
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| 00:53.00 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: hahaha... well good deal... whatever works man |
| 00:53.13 | Supaplex | :) |
| 00:53.16 | xtension | danko123456 do you really live there ? |
| 00:53.33 | xtension | danko123456 how bout a vacuumcleaner ? |
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| 00:53.41 | Supaplex | well I'm off to BBQ some salmon and tbone steaks, and brauts mmmmmmm mmm. |
| 00:54.17 | abrotman | brats ? |
| 00:54.19 | abrotman | you bastard! |
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| 00:55.31 | danko123456 | xtension: well, till the other day, I cleaned it up, but yeah, Im a pig... |
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| 00:56.00 | danko123456 | yuo should see it now, its even more disgusting |
| 00:56.15 | xtension | danko123456 is it possible ?? |
| 00:56.25 | pekkele | whitch of this is must download, to play doom 3. i have debian sarge.. http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/ pls help |
| 00:56.25 | danko123456 | it is, trust me, I dont even wanna go there... |
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| 00:57.24 | epsilon | whois rotating/flushing the kernel logfile /var/log/kern.log? |
| 00:57.24 | xtension | danko123456 thank god for making an outside world |
| 00:57.31 | danko123456 | meaning what'? |
| 00:57.43 | xtension | danko123456 so you can breath fresh air |
| 00:57.48 | danko123456 | ah...ha:) |
| 00:57.48 | abrotman | epsilon: logrotate maybe ? |
| 00:58.16 | xtension | danko123456 but can yyuo think at all in such a mess ? |
| 00:58.31 | epsilon | : nope |
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| 00:58.34 | epsilon | abrotman: nope |
| 00:58.35 | danko123456 | it is creative mess. |
| 00:58.40 | danko123456 | not really... |
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| 00:58.49 | dvs | Uh oh. The date is sliding already |
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| 00:59.07 | xtension | danko123456 get a girlfriend please |
| 00:59.08 | danko123456 | ok, Ill clean up, youve convinced me, I have some garbage bags here, and Ill post a photo... |
| 00:59.09 | epsilon | is it good idea to rotate kern.log with logrotate? or is there any conflict? |
| 00:59.19 | danko123456 | I always go for the wrong type, tho... |
| 00:59.36 | xtension | danko123456 get the cleaning type ? |
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| 00:59.54 | abrotman | epsilon: it gets rotated every boot iirc |
| 01:00.15 | xtension | danko123456 do it for yourself |
| 01:00.23 | xtension | danko123456 at least |
| 01:00.39 | epsilon | is there any way to change the LOG output of iptables, so not kern.log? |
| 01:00.43 | danko123456 | nono, Ill show you the power of one, in a second,... |
| 01:00.54 | xtension | epsilon yes |
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| 01:01.17 | epsilon | xtension: buzzword I can google for? |
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| 01:01.59 | xtension | epsilon man syslog.conf |
| 01:02.30 | xtension | epsilon or remove the log entries from your firewall |
| 01:03.46 | epsilon | xtension: I'm exploring iptables little deeper and want to moniter the routing activity |
| 01:04.15 | xtension | epsilon ah i see , i dont get the point though |
| 01:04.18 | epsilon | but I want to make sure the logfile won't explode |
| 01:04.47 | xtension | epsilon do you want to see the ip traffic ? |
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| 01:06.19 | epsilon | xtension: check my rules, and log what's rejected/dropped or if I'm ping/SYN flooded |
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| 01:07.31 | xtension | epsilon --log-level level |
| 01:08.13 | dvs | where "level" is "error", "warn", "info", etc. |
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| 01:08.52 | danko123456 | xtension: there: http://207.161.57.251/nice/ . |
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| 01:09.07 | danko123456 | I have a lot of things, tho... |
| 01:09.08 | epsilon | yes, the LOG rule is in iptables... now I try to log in own iptables.log and not in kern.log |
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| 01:09.29 | xtension | danko123456 youre fast , now the other side or the room :) |
| 01:10.02 | hikenboot | I am forced to reinstall..to ensure that I can get x windows working which files should i backup besides XF86Config ? |
| 01:10.11 | danko123456 | xtension: hehe:) pekkele, please ask at #cedega , it seems they know there about doom3... |
| 01:10.24 | xtension | hikenboot rather anything but |
| 01:11.37 | danko123456 | pekkele: please ask at #cedega , it seems they know there about doom3... in case you did not get that when I posted it. |
| 01:11.42 | epsilon | xtension: did I understood syslog.conf correct: I use "--log-level info" and kern.info in syslog.conf? |
| 01:11.45 | abrotman | hikenboot: save it .. but don't use it right away |
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| 01:12.12 | hikenboot | I am familiar with red hats configuration but never have done debians |
| 01:12.14 | abrotman | hikenboot: also .. /msg dpkg debian clone .. might be useful to you |
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| 01:12.41 | abrotman | !bounce pseubodot |
| 01:12.58 | pseubodot | !lart abrotman |
| 01:13.12 | abrotman | yay |
| 01:13.16 | xtension | epsilon i would filter the logs myself |
| 01:13.18 | danko123456 | that dpkg is a pervert:) |
| 01:13.29 | hikenboot | well good evening then |
| 01:13.39 | abrotman | !lick danko123456 |
| 01:13.43 | pseubodot | nice to know that #debian hasn't changed. :) |
| 01:13.44 | dabreegster | danko123456: nah, the people who wrote it are |
| 01:13.44 | abrotman | dpkg: damn you |
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| 01:14.07 | colter | I finally managed to upgrade to sarge... debian-installer is really nice. Alltough my floppy drive failed, I managed to boot by USB, after which d-i proceeded to find and use the sarge-dvd-isos automatically |
| 01:14.10 | danko123456 | well, you wanted him to lick you... |
| 01:14.12 | xtension | epsilon --log-prefix prefix gives you prefix as a filter target |
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| 01:14.43 | abrotman | colter: this is bad? |
| 01:14.56 | colter | abrotman: nope, its great |
| 01:15.14 | epsilon | xtension: I know, i use [iptables] prefix to grep for... but not really the solution (own file) I'm looking for :/ |
| 01:15.39 | epsilon | hm |
| 01:15.56 | abrotman | colter: anything we can do to help |
| 01:16.00 | abrotman | ? |
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| 01:16.21 | epsilon | xtension: is it safe to rotate kern.log with logrotate? |
| 01:16.43 | xtension | epsilon http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/iptables_fw.html |
| 01:16.48 | colter | abrotman: nah, I spent the entire last week upgrading my program configs and doing dry runs, and it payed off - worked like a charm :) |
| 01:17.00 | abrotman | yay |
| 01:17.42 | FlimFlamMan | i'm trying to migrate from a red hat 7.2 box to debian-sarge. i have a problem with samba. i want to keep the same /home dir, but change the uids of users < 1000 toi be > 1000, to match debian's configuration. when i change the uid in /etc/samba/smbpasswd, all the win2k workstations create a new profile for the user, and the old account shows as domain\unix_user.<oldid> ... is there any way to deal with this without losing the windows pro |
| 01:17.42 | FlimFlamMan | files on all the workstations? |
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| 01:18.04 | abrotman | FlimFlamMan: #samba |
| 01:18.13 | abrotman | FlimFlamMan: well .. maybe #samba |
| 01:18.15 | FlimFlamMan | abrotman, dead as a doornail, as usual |
| 01:18.18 | danko123456 | abrotman: anyhow, I am wondering, if I dont seat the ram properly, and boot, does it fry? |
| 01:18.22 | abrotman | FlimFlamMan: yeah .. i run into that |
| 01:18.34 | abrotman | danko123456: it's possible .. to fry both |
| 01:18.49 | xtension | danko123456 watch it count at boot ? |
| 01:18.55 | danko123456 | so then learn to dissemble the case I guess, its so hard... |
| 01:19.08 | danko123456 | I cant even place the seconnd stick, damn case... |
| 01:19.32 | xtension | danko123456 off you can |
| 01:19.34 | ethics | flimflam: on xp it setup a new profile? ie linux is handling the profiles as a PDC/BDC? |
| 01:19.40 | xtension | danko123456 course |
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| 01:20.10 | xtension | danko123456 usually these boxes open on two sides |
| 01:20.12 | elz | what is the channels for the ppc distribution of debian? |
| 01:20.28 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 01:20.28 | dpkg | methinks ppc is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc |
| 01:20.32 | danko123456 | no I cant, I tried.:) Ill do it now, let you know... |
| 01:20.44 | elz | thanks |
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| 01:20.59 | abrotman | danko123456: maybe go to the HP site and find the docs ? |
| 01:21.01 | ethics | flimflam: if your getting 2 profiles on xp/2k/nt the user profiles panel *(rightclick properties on mycomputer advanced userprofiles) you can copy old profile to new profile ....may be your solution?? |
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| 01:21.25 | danko123456 | a screwdriver would help lots... |
| 01:21.29 | danko123456 | :-/ |
| 01:21.42 | epsilon | btw, how ended the discussion lately about dropping support for 80386? |
| 01:22.06 | Azar | I have a dillema to pick an yes or no, at upgrading to 2.6.8 kernel, I know I do not have yet an initrd.img in lilo, I will insert it after installation is done and before reboot, but now it is asking me: Do you want me to create a link from /boot/initrd.img-2.6.8-2-k7 to initrd.img? should I say YES even if I will configure lilo after that? |
| 01:22.10 | abrotman | epsilon: might be a better question to email the debian-devel list |
| 01:22.35 | epsilon | so I don't wanna know :) |
| 01:22.49 | abrotman | no .. i just don't know .. and haven't heard anything about it in a while |
| 01:22.55 | Azar | is trying to create an initrd.img symbolic link, should I say yes to that? |
| 01:23.09 | epsilon | ok, I check ML archive later |
| 01:23.18 | dvs | Aza, Debian kernels have initrd images so I would say yes. |
| 01:23.38 | Azar | thanks dvs |
| 01:23.51 | dvs | np |
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| 01:24.10 | ethics | Azar: its a link so worst case you could just make it or delete it..... |
| 01:25.23 | FlimFlamMan | ethics: it's win2k - problem is that i have 200 users and 80 machines, which means i probably have several hundred instances of the problem, scattered around on different machines... |
| 01:25.49 | ethics | FlimFlamMan, is linux hadling the PDC stuff or do you have a MS PDC |
| 01:26.02 | FlimFlamMan | ethics: it's a linx pdc |
| 01:26.09 | FlimFlamMan | er samba pdc |
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| 01:26.20 | xtension | FlimFlamMan sound very windowz |
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| 01:27.01 | ethics | FlimFlamMan, hmm kk......well what you have is 2 profiles for 1 user which means you can use the user profiles to copy old to new in 2k.....hard part is prolly making is a mass thing..... |
| 01:27.05 | xtension | FlimFlamMan windowz is known for its user-friendlyness not admin friendlyness |
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| 01:28.10 | danko123456 | abrotman: how much do I touch the surface of the stick before I have f'ed it up? |
| 01:28.15 | FlimFlamMan | what about keeping user's current id's under 1000? would that create a problem? |
| 01:28.15 | ethics | FlimFlamMan, maybee google for windows 2k migrating domains......when you swap domains in a MS network you get a new profile Username.Domain so you copy old domain profile to new domain .. moving whole domains would need a mass change tool so id be looking at migration docs |
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| 01:28.31 | abrotman | danko123456: depends what's on your hands |
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| 01:29.46 | ethics | FlimFlamMan, using roamin profiles by chance? |
| 01:29.52 | sparr_ | file begins with "3AN", anyone know what that might be? 'file' has no idea |
| 01:29.53 | K_Dallas | if i install some packages from unstable or worse eperimental ;) then upgrading like this: apt-get -t testing upgrade, would suggest upgrades which are actually downgrade, ro would that cause incoherence? thanks |
| 01:29.57 | danko123456 | 23 degreees celsius, so you can imagine... |
| 01:30.56 | K_Dallas | sparr_, do you suspect anything at all? |
| 01:31.04 | FlimFlamMan | ethics, no - not yet. was going to consider it once migrated from RH7.2 -> Debian... |
| 01:31.04 | sparr_ | K_Dallas: its an archive of some sort |
| 01:31.09 | K_Dallas | i see |
| 01:31.17 | K_Dallas | maybe the new 7z |
| 01:31.18 | Azar | thanks guys, hi ethics and thanks |
| 01:31.30 | Azar | ok back to normal Sarge with 2.6.8 kernel :) |
| 01:32.01 | Azar | ..and yes I was rooted and I found when and who, everything needed to be reinstalled |
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| 01:33.45 | RCarter | Azar: So how did they get in? |
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| 01:34.17 | danko123456 | well, Ive managed to break it:)] |
| 01:34.24 | ethics | FlimFlamMan, do you have a testin workstation you can play with? |
| 01:34.32 | danko123456 | !moron danko |
| 01:34.33 | dpkg | danko: You are moron #51 |
| 01:35.02 | K_Dallas | !moron K_Dallas |
| 01:35.05 | dpkg | K_Dallas: You are moron #78 |
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| 01:35.15 | K_Dallas | darn, i cannot even be a better moron ;) |
| 01:35.30 | danko123456 | hey, thanks, dpkg, I needed that... |
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| 01:35.35 | K_Dallas | :) |
| 01:35.43 | dvs | !pal K_Dallas and danko123456 |
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| 01:36.24 | morfeo | i can't install k3b, broken dependencies |
| 01:37.01 | mwilson | And that's bad? |
| 01:37.23 | mwilson | How is not being able to install K3B anything but a good thing? |
| 01:37.29 | morfeo | but the dependencies dosen't exist in the database :( |
| 01:37.45 | danko123456 | dumbest damn case Ive seen, tho... |
| 01:37.48 | morfeo | dbus-qt-1 libavcodeccvs |
| 01:37.56 | danko123456 | but, weve yuet to see whos dumber... |
| 01:37.58 | morfeo | any idea ? |
| 01:38.00 | xtension | morfeo install the dependencies one by one |
| 01:38.13 | mwilson | k3b depends on dbus now? Wow, even more broken than it used to be. |
| 01:38.15 | danko123456 | well, or fix your sources. |
| 01:38.35 | morfeo | xtension : is not disponible |
| 01:38.47 | deadcat | i like nero |
| 01:38.54 | mwilson | Hm, no, it doesn't, so fix whatever unofficial sources you're getting k3b from. |
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| 01:38.57 | danko123456 | you are a sold soul... |
| 01:39.04 | xtension | morfeo i donot copy |
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| 01:39.25 | morfeo | xtension : sorry by mi english :( |
| 01:39.28 | morfeo | my |
| 01:39.39 | danko123456 | dont feel sorry... |
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| 01:40.17 | mwilson | morfeo: k3b does not depend on dbus-qt-1. There is no such package. |
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| 01:40.40 | morfeo | k3b: Depende: dbus-qt-1 (>= 0.23.4) pero no es instalable |
| 01:40.59 | morfeo | k3blibs: Depende: dbus-qt-1 (>= 0.23.4) pero no es instalabl |
| 01:41.09 | morfeo | Depende: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050427-0.0) per |
| 01:41.19 | mwilson | Then, as I said, fix whatever unofficial source you're trying to get it from. |
| 01:41.21 | xerophyte | I know little python, i am just wondering how hard to learn python/perl/php/bash all the same time |
| 01:41.42 | mwilson | morfeo: Even *unstable* doesn't have a package named dbus-qt-1 |
| 01:41.43 | ethics | hmm anyone know if hotkeys overrides or co exists with laptop special keys...volume etc |
| 01:42.37 | danko123456 | welll, here goes the smoke test...:) |
| 01:42.45 | morfeo | mwilson : yes, that's the problem :( |
| 01:42.55 | xtension | morfeo try apt-setup |
| 01:43.03 | Azar | does anyone (again) wants the link to The table of equivalents / replacements / analogs of Windows software in Linux ? |
| 01:43.18 | mwilson | xtension: apt-setup is going to make packages magically exist where they do not now? |
| 01:43.30 | danko123456 | hey, sure... |
| 01:43.33 | danko123456 | Azar: ... |
| 01:43.36 | mwilson | morfeo: So... what unofficial package archive are you trying to install from? |
| 01:43.37 | xtension | mwilson so he can fix his sources.list |
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| 01:43.46 | morfeo | xtension : to change my sources? |
| 01:43.47 | Azar | danko123456: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html |
| 01:43.47 | mwilson | xtension: Fix it? How is it broken? |
| 01:44.16 | danko123456 | hey, no smole. |
| 01:44.19 | danko123456 | smoke |
| 01:44.33 | danko123456 | I seem surprised, hey? |
| 01:44.40 | mwilson | xtension: Well? |
| 01:44.43 | xtension | mwilson isnt that what you are saying ? |
| 01:44.52 | mwilson | xtension: No, I'm not saying that at all. |
| 01:45.03 | xtension | mwilson he s pulling his sources from some crappy site |
| 01:45.12 | mwilson | xtension: Uh, no. |
| 01:45.30 | mwilson | xtension: He's deliberately added some unofficial package archive. |
| 01:45.35 | danko123456 | well, means his sources.list is weird... |
| 01:46.00 | xtension | mwilson which apt-setup will replace with an official site ? |
| 01:46.08 | mwilson | xtension: It will? |
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| 01:46.24 | xtension | mwilson i think so, i edit the file with vi |
| 01:46.32 | kingsley | Why would a printer go offline after running /etc/cron.daily/logrotate? |
| 01:46.46 | mwilson | kingsley: It wouldn't. |
| 01:46.52 | xtension | mwilson so personally i dont use apt-setup |
| 01:47.06 | mwilson | xtension: But you're making pronouncements about how it works. |
| 01:47.20 | danko123456 | okok, lets focus on fixing it:) |
| 01:47.20 | xtension | mwilson yes its linux isnt it |
| 01:47.34 | smacnay | hmm, to lmsensors working, I thought I needed the kernel sensor module (w83l785ts) loaded. Appears I can run mbmon without it loaded. Is this common? |
| 01:47.38 | xtension | mwilson i trust its good functinality |
| 01:47.47 | mwilson | Oh, brother. |
| 01:48.00 | mwilson | Where does the universe find 'em? |
| 01:48.18 | xtension | lol |
| 01:48.24 | abrotman | mwilson: blame canada |
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| 01:48.36 | danko123456 | Azar: I like how the right column has so many more programs:) |
| 01:48.52 | danko123456 | hey, you cant blame us for everything... |
| 01:48.56 | mwilson | morfeo: So. Remove whatever unofficial source you added. |
| 01:49.02 | danko123456 | stupid ram doesnt speed up the comptuer... |
| 01:49.09 | abrotman | !sing blame canada |
| 01:49.09 | dpkg | blame canada, blame canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since canada came along, blame canada, blame canada, they're not even a real country, anyway |
| 01:49.16 | mwilson | danko123456: Nor do I. Americans are far more stupid. |
| 01:49.26 | mwilson | danko123456: And I say that even though I am one. |
| 01:49.27 | dan2 | abrotman: yup, canada is a shithole |
| 01:49.28 | morfeo | mwilson : ok |
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| 01:49.56 | smacnay | not even a real country?? |
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| 01:50.06 | ghpolo | someone can help me setting up a serial port to dump kernel msg to another computer ? |
| 01:50.15 | smacnay | dan2: why? |
| 01:50.31 | xtension | morfeo do this : rm /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-setup |
| 01:50.32 | danko123456 | haha, dont listen to the trolls smacnay:) |
| 01:50.34 | DrRighteous | can anyone help me with UML on debian? |
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| 01:50.53 | mwilson | Oh, yes, by all means... tell the clueless to erase random files. |
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| 01:50.59 | morfeo | ok |
| 01:51.07 | xtension | eheh random |
| 01:51.14 | abrotman | xtension: maybe you should stop helping :) |
| 01:51.30 | danko123456 | morfeo: try editing it rather, I think |
| 01:51.34 | dan2 | !sing blame canada |
| 01:51.34 | dpkg | blame canada, blame canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since canada came along, blame canada, blame canada, they're not even a real country, anyway |
| 01:51.34 | abrotman | how about .. mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old1 |
| 01:51.40 | dan2 | what a great song |
| 01:51.41 | dan2 | :) |
| 01:51.48 | danko123456 | I like it too, it promotes canada |
| 01:52.02 | mwilson | Or better still, how about removing the line he added, and leaving the rest of the file alone? |
| 01:52.14 | xtension | morfeo can you do that ? |
| 01:52.16 | danko123456 | there is no such thing as bad publicity... |
| 01:52.17 | smacnay | danko123456: I am not really... just an interesting point of view. |
| 01:52.19 | abrotman | mwilson: agreed :) |
| 01:52.26 | abrotman | danko123456: MJ .. nuff said |
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| 01:52.48 | danko123456 | !MJ |
| 01:52.48 | dpkg | methinks mj is older...... |
| 01:52.54 | abrotman | danko123456: jackson |
| 01:52.55 | morfeo | xtension : i am in update |
| 01:53.14 | mwilson | abrotman: I swear... fetching packages from unstable should involve an intelligence test first. |
| 01:53.17 | danko123456 | MJ well, you think its bad publicity? not so much, anyhow, OT... |
| 01:53.22 | nunez | how would I start an xterm with -e, but have it stay open after the command is done? |
| 01:53.39 | xtension | morfeo if you can edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file ... ? |
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| 01:53.58 | abrotman | mwilson: there'd be a lot less sid users .. oh wait .. :) |
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| 01:54.24 | morfeo | xtension : yes i can edit the sources.list i am super user |
| 01:54.26 | mwilson | nunez: man xterm |
| 01:54.29 | danko123456 | man, just have him sudo gedit wherever you guys keep sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list? and paste it to pastebin.com, andtell him what to remove... |
| 01:54.35 | nunez | mwilson: I did, didnt find it |
| 01:54.41 | xtension | morfeo but do you KNOW what to do with it ?? |
| 01:54.45 | mwilson | nunez: You have to actually read it. |
| 01:54.55 | nunez | mwilson: Ahhh.. Thats why |
| 01:55.14 | morfeo | xtension : yes, delete unoficial sources.. |
| 01:55.28 | danko123456 | morfeo: please paste your sources.list to http://pastebin.com and then we will tell you what to comment out/remove |
| 01:55.28 | xtension | morfeo good |
| 01:55.34 | Azar | hmm I am trying to install the x-windows-system and the command does not work.. maybe Sarge already installed it? how do I find? |
| 01:55.47 | xtension | morfeo you surprise me |
| 01:55.51 | morfeo | xtension : now i'm installing k3b with out a problem XD |
| 01:56.07 | danko123456 | nice |
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| 01:56.18 | morfeo | xtension : why? |
| 01:56.23 | xtension | morfeo and now remove and update all packeges you got from the unoff site |
| 01:56.38 | morfeo | ok |
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| 01:57.33 | Draconicus|Away | Sorry about the name. My girlfriend was on. |
| 01:58.11 | xtension | Azar install the pkg |
| 01:58.39 | Azar | dumb me, yeah I figured out , thanks xtension |
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| 01:59.22 | danko123456 | yeah, so that did not go as good as I hoped for, but, well, at least I have more RAM in there then when I started off:( anyhow, thanks everyone, ttyl. |
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| 02:04.20 | ExMiratos | Hi, folks... if anyone can help me with setting up a WPC11 wireless card, and also java, on my debian system, i'd be most grateful |
| 02:04.22 | morfeo | xtension : thank's |
| 02:04.38 | xtension | morfeo np |
| 02:05.27 | abrotman | !tell ExMiratos about java |
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| 02:06.17 | ExMiratos | the java plugin, specifically. though i'm more concerned about the wireless card for now. |
| 02:06.32 | abrotman | ExMiratos: read what dpkg said |
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| 02:07.11 | ExMiratos | I did |
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| 02:07.34 | ExMiratos | !tell ExMiratos about java |
| 02:07.55 | Muahdib | hi all |
| 02:09.05 | FarrisG | Any suggestions for setting up a cluster of about 15 debian boxes? Basically, I want to allow engineers to submit long-running jobs to a single master/server without having to determine which machine in the farm has enough free resources first |
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| 02:10.03 | danko123456 | !hi |
| 02:10.03 | dpkg | hello, danko123456 |
| 02:10.10 | danko123456 | yo, man, wassup! |
| 02:10.28 | danko123456 | jj...anyhow, what is the xserver reconfigure command, I cant remember. |
| 02:10.41 | xerophyte | for knowledgebase mediawiki or phpbb is good .. for company intranet knowledbase ? |
| 02:11.14 | Xenguy | FarrisG: I had a URL for that just today; got a minute? |
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| 02:11.18 | gravity | danko123456: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:11.21 | dabreegster | !drxx |
| 02:11.21 | dpkg | i guess drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
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| 02:11.36 | danko123456 | gravity: thank you very much! |
| 02:11.55 | TwistedLappy | How do you change X resolutions again? |
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| 02:12.15 | dvs | TwistedLappy: Ctrl-Alt-KeyPad+ |
| 02:12.19 | TwistedLappy | ctrl+ |
| 02:12.21 | TwistedLappy | thanks |
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| 02:12.45 | TwistedLappy | dvs: laptop... I dont have a keypad |
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| 02:12.55 | FarrisG | Xenguy: Certainly. The machines won't get in until Wednesday |
| 02:13.01 | dvs | TwistedLappy: I don't know then |
| 02:13.17 | danko123456 | !bye |
| 02:13.17 | dpkg | Cya, danko123456 |
| 02:13.19 | TwistedLappy | Ctrl-Alt Shift - or = doesnt work either |
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| 02:13.21 | Xenguy | FarrisG: heheh... |
| 02:13.26 | Xenguy | FarrisG: http://www.irb.hr/en/cir/projects/dcc/00007/ |
| 02:13.41 | Xenguy | FarrisG: let me know what you think (I've never messed with this stuff) |
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| 02:13.42 | TwistedLappy | Anyone got a laptop here and know how to change screen resolution? |
| 02:14.03 | abrotman | why would you ? |
| 02:14.07 | Wyzard | TwistedLappy: Most people don't, since laptop screens are fixed-resolution |
| 02:14.18 | Wyzard | TwistedLappy: There's no real benefit from changing it |
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| 02:14.33 | TwistedLappy | Wyzard: What? Ohhhh.. I get what your saying |
| 02:14.55 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: Configure X to use the appropriate resolution for your LCD, and you never need to change it |
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| 02:15.07 | abrotman | Wyzard: not fixed .. but have a natural |
| 02:15.23 | TwistedLappy | Wyzard: I get it |
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| 02:15.54 | smacnay | how does one recompile a .deb package like sox to include alsa support? |
| 02:16.11 | Wyzard | abrotman: Nearly the same thing, but I'd still call it a fixed resolution; if you try to use something different, the video card does bitmap scaling automatically |
| 02:16.17 | deadcat | !drxx |
| 02:16.18 | dpkg | i guess drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
| 02:16.27 | FlimFlamMan | i'm migrating from red hat 7.2 to debian-sarge. i'd like to keep the same /home partition. red hat starts numbering users at 500 instead of 1000 - is it possible (or difficult) to set up debian to accommodate existing users with uid's < 1000 ? |
| 02:16.31 | abrotman | Wyzard: which is UUUUGLLY |
| 02:16.42 | deadcat | smacnay: apt-get source sox, then use checkinstall |
| 02:16.50 | smacnay | deadcat: thanks |
| 02:17.03 | TwistedLappy | Damn braveheart is a good movie... flip to Channel USA... on commercial right now... just started. |
| 02:17.08 | deadcat | FlimFlamMan: cant you just chown -R ? |
| 02:17.14 | deadcat | on the mother fucker? |
| 02:17.16 | nuno | hello all |
| 02:17.39 | FlimFlamMan | deadcat, the problem is that changing the UID changes the samba SID and there is a massive shitstorm on the windows workstations... |
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| 02:17.40 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: hahah. they fixed him at the end right? |
| 02:17.56 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: FREEEEDOM! |
| 02:17.58 | Wyzard | FlimFlamMan: Can be done, though I don't remember offhand how to do it |
| 02:18.07 | deadcat | FlimFlamMan: set it in /etc/addusers or /etc/login.defs |
| 02:18.15 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: hahha. never seen the movie myself. |
| 02:18.25 | Wyzard | FlimFlamMan: More specifically, the existing accounts should work just fine, but there's some config file you can edit so that newly-created accounts will continue numbering from 500 rather than starting at 100 |
| 02:18.28 | Wyzard | *1000 |
| 02:18.32 | FlimFlamMan | deadcat, you mean set the uid floor there? |
| 02:18.39 | deadcat | FlimFlamMan: ya. |
| 02:18.48 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: did you get splashy? |
| 02:19.03 | FlimFlamMan | deadcat, Wyzard - i don't care where new accounts start numbering, just trying to avoid changing existing ones... |
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| 02:19.28 | Funzo | hey is anybody around familiar with running debian on the ppc? |
| 02:19.28 | Wyzard | FlimFlamMan: They should work just fine as they are |
| 02:19.32 | FlimFlamMan | is there a collision with system accounts or anything on a default debian-sarg install? |
| 02:19.41 | gravity | Funzo: #debianppc |
| 02:19.43 | deadcat | FlimFlamMan: proably |
| 02:19.45 | Funzo | oh thx |
| 02:19.52 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: Splashy? You mean bootsplash? |
| 02:19.54 | deadcat | Funzo: ya. |
| 02:20.00 | deadcat | Funzo: most of us are on ppc |
| 02:20.09 | abrotman | we are ? |
| 02:20.11 | Funzo | really? |
| 02:20.14 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: kinna like that. but you dont need kernel shits |
| 02:20.17 | abrotman | that's news to me |
| 02:20.18 | deadcat | Funzo: ya. |
| 02:20.26 | Funzo | I have run it on xbox... but never a ppc |
| 02:20.31 | abrotman | deadcat: you might want to check your stats again |
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| 02:20.35 | deadcat | Funzo: same thing |
| 02:20.41 | Funzo | I have never seen the need with a unix base system (max OSX) |
| 02:20.43 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: If that exists why didnt we do that on my desktop? |
| 02:20.44 | ethics | some of us have many archs hehe....looks around..intel amd sparc,ppc ,as400 xbox |
| 02:20.46 | abrotman | xbox isn't ppc |
| 02:20.50 | Funzo | i know |
| 02:20.52 | Funzo | thats why i said |
| 02:20.53 | abrotman | wtf .. is deadcat drunk ? |
| 02:20.54 | deadcat | Funzo: ya. thats junk |
| 02:20.55 | ethics | xbox is i686 |
| 02:20.57 | Funzo | i have run it on xbox |
| 02:21.07 | ethics | new one is ppc maybe....cell cpu |
| 02:21.07 | Funzo | but now im unning it on an imac |
| 02:21.08 | dvs | P3 700 I think |
| 02:21.15 | Funzo | yeah |
| 02:21.18 | Funzo | pr 733mhz |
| 02:21.20 | Funzo | err |
| 02:21.21 | Funzo | p3 |
| 02:21.23 | FlimFlamMan | Wyzard, deadcat - if i install debian initially and get all the system and existing user account id's to work out, do i have to worry when adding new packages with different system accounts? those let the system assign new id's right? not hard-coded? |
| 02:21.26 | michal_ | hi.. near the beggining of the month there was some sort of info (speculation possibly?) that a new release of Debian may be out by the and of May. Does that look like it's on track or just wishful thinking? |
| 02:21.28 | ethics | but new ones not hacked yet so doubtful xebian will work yet hehe |
| 02:21.37 | abrotman | !tell michal_ about wwsr |
| 02:21.38 | Funzo | the new ones not out yet |
| 02:21.39 | Funzo | :P |
| 02:21.48 | dvs | michal_: /topic |
| 02:21.56 | ethics | xbox 1.1-1.2 - cele 733....1.3-1.6 cele 766 i believe |
| 02:22.02 | dvs | abrotman: Hey! Not necessary ;-) |
| 02:22.07 | abrotman | it's not ? |
| 02:22.15 | abrotman | he obviously didn't read the topic the first time :) |
| 02:22.32 | michal_ | it says nothing about the release in the topic |
| 02:22.42 | deadcat | michal_: you've been here for a while and still asking those qs? /topic one of these days man |
| 02:22.49 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: when I look up my monitor resolution sais Display Max. Resolution 1400 x 1050 ... but not availavle in X setup any ideas? |
| 02:22.55 | deadcat | michal_: you fucking blind? |
| 02:23.02 | Wyzard | FlimFlamMan: See http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.2.2 |
| 02:23.16 | abrotman | | sarge not out /msg dpkg wwsr |
| 02:23.24 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: its a weird screen then. should be 1280x1024 right/ |
| 02:23.25 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.31 | Wyzard | FlimFlamMan: Editing /etc/adduser.conf and changing LAST_SYSTEM_UID from 999 to 499, and FIRST_UID from 1000 to 500, should be all you need |
| 02:23.33 | Funzo | •deadcat• can you help me out? |
| 02:23.35 | michal_ | deacat: no but my irc client is.. seems to overwrite the topic with the notice when I join |
| 02:23.51 | deadcat | michal_: time for a new client |
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| 02:24.11 | michal_ | deadcat: not really.. just means this one needs a bugfix. |
| 02:24.18 | abrotman | michal_: get a new one |
| 02:24.40 | michal_ | abrotman: there's really only one decent one on this platfrom.. and I'm using it. |
| 02:24.47 | abrotman | michal_: it is what ? |
| 02:25.00 | smacnay | deadcat: hehe - I looked over the changelog files before running checkinstall and see the item "removed broken ALSA support" - no sense trying to compile that it by myself and it makes sense why alsa support wasn't in the .deb package by default. |
| 02:25.03 | michal_ | abrotman: snak.. for mac os x |
| 02:25.04 | deadcat | michal_: bullshit. |
| 02:25.08 | FlimFlamMan | Wyzard, thanks. that seems to suggest that i'm ok if i set that second range to 100-499 instead of 100-999 in adduser.conf... ? |
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| 02:25.19 | Wyzard | FlimFlamMan: Correct |
| 02:25.20 | abrotman | michal_: you could use fink and install irssi couldn't you ? |
| 02:25.23 | FlimFlamMan | cool! |
| 02:25.32 | michal_ | abrotman: is that graphical? |
| 02:25.34 | Funzo | haha |
| 02:25.38 | Funzo | just use xchat aqua |
| 02:25.56 | Funzo | or xchat native and compile it |
| 02:26.02 | michal_ | xchat aqua runs like shit on my hardware.. even ftpd runs like shit under Tiger.. was better under panther |
| 02:26.12 | deadcat | Funzo: dont fucking /msg me. just ask that q here. |
| 02:26.31 | abrotman | michal_: get a new machine |
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| 02:26.37 | Funzo | sorry dude |
| 02:26.37 | abrotman | michal_: http://www.xchat.org/download/ |
| 02:26.40 | abrotman | quite a few links |
| 02:26.42 | michal_ | abrotman: only if you finance it |
| 02:27.02 | TwistedLappy | There we go... thats better |
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| 02:27.49 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: E: Couldn't find package splashy |
| 02:27.55 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: experimental |
| 02:28.05 | michal_ | abrotman: when i say ftpd i meant literally ftpd.. i didn't mean downloading xchat was slow.. i meant that even ftpd on tiger is slow on my hardware.. and xchat is pretty much unusable |
| 02:28.15 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: Ahhh... |
| 02:28.25 | michal_ | but all this is besides the point anyway |
| 02:28.30 | deadcat | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.1.3_i386.deb |
| 02:28.37 | abrotman | michal_: get a new machine :) |
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| 02:28.56 | michal_ | abrotman: am I to understand that the cheque is in the mail? :P |
| 02:28.56 | chealer | oh no, is michal_ still upgrading the potato box? :) |
| 02:29.06 | Funzo | so deadcat can you help me? |
| 02:29.07 | chealer | or was it slink? |
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| 02:29.12 | deadcat | Funzo: ask |
| 02:29.14 | abrotman | michal_: how old is your sister ? |
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| 02:29.30 | michal_ | chealer: that box fixed itself after a few weeks.. i havn't been game to even try connecting to it since.. i'm just letting it fester till Ican do something about it |
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| 02:30.17 | chealer | michal_: hehe, still good old oldstable then :) |
| 02:30.19 | michal_ | abrotman: what makes you think I have a sister? |
| 02:30.37 | abrotman | michal_: just a guess :) |
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| 02:30.52 | michal_ | chealer: i don't know.. it's probably a mix of 2 different debian's.. both obsolete.. with lots of corrupted binaries |
| 02:30.54 | seven_six_two | I usu sarge, and when i mount a cd(as root) and copy the contents to my hd, it takes a long time until the cdrom drive is not busy anymore so that i can unmount it. everything else that is using it is closed, but it says it's busy. until it isn't anymore. is there a way to shorten the time that it's busy for? |
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| 02:31.02 | morfeo | hi |
| 02:31.25 | chealer | michal_: you don't have to use sid to get fun |
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| 02:31.28 | morfeo | how to improved pdflatex results |
| 02:31.31 | Funzo | •deadcat• I am trying to get kde up and running... but the X server refuses to start...lemme type out the rror msg |
| 02:31.43 | seven_six_two | Funzo: use pastebin |
| 02:31.45 | michal_ | chealer: well that system doesn't even have any woody on it |
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| 02:31.58 | Funzo | im on a diffo pc |
| 02:32.04 | deadcat | Funzo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and select ati |
| 02:32.08 | Funzo | ohh |
| 02:32.15 | Funzo | gimme a sec thats the cmd i was looking for |
| 02:32.23 | chealer | seven_six_two: what process is locking it? |
| 02:32.57 | abrotman | sync ? |
| 02:32.58 | seven_six_two | i have no isea. i mount from console, copy with konqueror, then get out of the cdrom dir and close konq |
| 02:33.00 | Funzo | •deadcat• I think I need to know where the caps go |
| 02:33.14 | Guerin | Funzo: fix your irc client |
| 02:33.20 | Funzo | ? |
| 02:33.24 | abrotman | though .. umount should sync |
| 02:33.26 | deadcat | the U |
| 02:33.37 | Guerin | is UdeadcatU supposed to be clever? |
| 02:33.45 | seven_six_two | but umount as root says the drive is busy. it lasts a few minutes. 5-10 usually. |
| 02:33.46 | Funzo | nahh thats ur irc client |
| 02:33.48 | chealer | seven_six_two: check it. and you should assume that konqueror's the problem. konqueror is always locking the CD |
| 02:33.49 | Funzo | its colours |
| 02:33.50 | Guerin | no it's not |
| 02:33.51 | deadcat | Guerin: cus i am special (= |
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| 02:33.59 | Funzo | its automatic |
| 02:34.05 | Funzo | •Guerin• see |
| 02:34.10 | mentor | feh. feh. feh. |
| 02:34.10 | seven_six_two | chealer: how do i know what's locking it? |
| 02:34.11 | deadcat | hahaha. |
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| 02:34.11 | Guerin | don't fucking use mirc colours, it fucks up real irc clients |
| 02:34.14 | togs | I get black boxes |
| 02:34.17 | stupidkid | hey, my dns look up is so slow, it took me about 10 seconds to get into a site |
| 02:34.18 | Funzo | haha |
| 02:34.20 | Funzo | "real" |
| 02:34.22 | stupidkid | how do i fix it? |
| 02:34.22 | Guerin | yes |
| 02:34.24 | deadcat | !annoy Guerin |
| 02:34.25 | chealer | seven_six_two: use fuser or lsof is better I believe |
| 02:34.25 | Guerin | real |
| 02:34.26 | seven_six_two | i get white boxes |
| 02:34.32 | stupidkid | i disabled ipv6 but it still happends |
| 02:34.33 | seven_six_two | thanks |
| 02:34.39 | Guerin | as opposed to mirc, the most pwn3d irc client in the history of the world, bar none |
| 02:34.44 | abrotman | !mirc |
| 02:34.44 | dpkg | well, mirc is http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/mirc/exploit.html |
| 02:34.57 | deadcat | cool |
| 02:34.58 | michal_ | has it been decided which kernels the debian-installer will ship with? ie is it 2.6.8 ? |
| 02:34.59 | Funzo | NEways... I get this xserver-free86 is not installed |
| 02:35.01 | Wyzard | stupidkid: So the problems you were blaming on IPv6 earlier turn out to not be because of IPv6? :-) |
| 02:35.05 | abrotman | neways? |
| 02:35.13 | Guerin | Funzo: so install it. /msg dpkg set up x |
| 02:35.15 | abrotman | because anyways is so hard ? |
| 02:35.19 | Funzo | hnahh but its there |
| 02:35.22 | stupidkid | yeah Wyzard haha |
| 02:35.25 | stupidkid | :) |
| 02:35.26 | abrotman | hah .. guess not |
| 02:35.30 | Funzo | no jeeze u guys love flaming |
| 02:35.33 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:35.33 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:35.42 | stupidkid | Wyzard, it happended after i enabled ipv6 |
| 02:35.42 | abrotman | no .. we have this thing about people who can't type |
| 02:35.42 | Guerin | Funzo: no it's not. If it were installed it wouldn't be telling you it wasn't installed. |
| 02:35.51 | Wyzard | stupidkid: If you look up a hostname with "dig" or "nslookup", ("apt-get install dnsutils" if you don't have them), is that slow too? |
| 02:35.53 | seven_six_two | lol |
| 02:35.56 | stupidkid | but my isp blocked proto 41 |
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| 02:36.30 | Funzo | but i can use startx |
| 02:36.34 | Funzo | i just get errors |
| 02:36.37 | stupidkid | Wyzard, let me install it |
| 02:36.42 | Funzo | i installed the Xserver |
| 02:36.43 | Guerin | Funzo: fix them. |
| 02:36.59 | Guerin | !tell funzo about set up x |
| 02:37.09 | deadcat | Funzo: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 02:37.13 | Guerin | #debian helps those who help themselves |
| 02:37.23 | stupidkid | apt-get took 10 seconds delay |
| 02:37.24 | stupidkid | :( |
| 02:37.55 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: splashying yet.? let me know if it works |
| 02:38.08 | stupidkid | Wyzard, dig is not slow |
| 02:38.31 | seven_six_two | i did lsof | grep cdrom and the only thing listed is famd |
| 02:39.15 | carcrashnights | I just compiled a custom kernel, does dpkg -i *kernel_package*.deb take care of the modules, too? |
| 02:39.18 | rik_ | Hi there, hope everyone is well! Perhaps someone here has installed openofficeorg 1.9 using alien? ./soffice reports 'Could not find a JRE' and then runs like a dog (cf v1.1.x) - would installing a JRE improve things and if so would sun's be the right choice? Also, how can I lauch a particular application, like calc? Thanks in advance. |
| 02:39.19 | abrotman | heh .. famd |
| 02:39.29 | deadcat | carcrashnights: did you compile your modules? |
| 02:39.29 | stupidkid | Wyzard, i disabled port 53 |
| 02:39.32 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Then it sounds like it's not DNS that's the problem, but just opening connections |
| 02:39.33 | stupidkid | was that a problem? |
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| 02:39.46 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Disabled it in what way? |
| 02:39.52 | Funzo | coundn't find package read-edid |
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| 02:40.02 | seven_six_two | and the cdrom drive still won't unmount |
| 02:40.03 | Funzo | is this on the sarge install cd? |
| 02:40.08 | carcrashnights | deadcat: Are you refereing to the make-kpkg modues_image? |
| 02:40.11 | Funzo | bcaz i dont have internet hooked up |
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| 02:40.11 | Carrus85 | does anyone know exactly what these error messages sum up to? "dpkg-deb (suprocess): error in buffer_read(streeam): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/Output error", "dpg-deb: suprocess paste returned error exit status 2", and "dpkg: error processing /cdrom/pool/main/k/kernal-image-2.4.27-i386/kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386_2.4.27-8_i386.deb (--unpack): short read in buffer_copy ( backend dpkg-deb during `./boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-389')". Ye |
| 02:40.11 | Carrus85 | s, this is a sarge install... |
| 02:40.12 | stupidkid | Wyzard, maybe in services |
| 02:40.14 | stupidkid | i can't remember |
| 02:40.15 | deadcat | Funzo: you have internet? use it. |
| 02:40.16 | stupidkid | :( |
| 02:40.25 | Funzo | i cant the nic port wont work |
| 02:40.29 | deadcat | carcrashnights: ya. install the module*deb |
| 02:40.30 | seven_six_two | can i just kill famd? it looks kind of important |
| 02:40.38 | stupidkid | domain53/tcpnameserver# name-domain server |
| 02:40.38 | stupidkid | domain53/udpnameserver |
| 02:40.40 | stupidkid | oh wait |
| 02:40.45 | seven_six_two | Funzo: you're on the internet |
| 02:40.48 | stupidkid | i didn't comment out these 2 lines |
| 02:40.51 | Funzo | yeah |
| 02:40.53 | Funzo | its diff pc |
| 02:41.00 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Deleting lines from /etc/services doesn't disable anything; it just prevents programs from looking up the name that goes with a port number |
| 02:41.06 | kalenedrael | how related is ubuntu to debian? |
| 02:41.07 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Don't edit that file |
| 02:41.08 | carcrashnights | deadcat: thank you for the advice. I was just used to doing everything manually through the Makefile. |
| 02:41.10 | chealer | Carrus85: doing what? |
| 02:41.11 | stupidkid | oh |
| 02:41.16 | stupidkid | i edit that file :( |
| 02:41.21 | stupidkid | i did |
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| 02:41.24 | abrotman | !based on debian |
| 02:41.24 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
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| 02:41.30 | Carrus85 | attempting an install. It throws that error on installing base system |
| 02:41.39 | abrotman | kalenedrael: why ? |
| 02:41.44 | togs | man, that bot is prepared |
| 02:41.50 | kalenedrael | i'm just wondering |
| 02:41.51 | abrotman | !love togs |
| 02:41.57 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Furthermore, having protocol 41 blocked by your ISP is irrelevant if you're not actually using it |
| 02:42.01 | Guerin | kalenedrael: you can read all about it on ubuntu.org |
| 02:42.02 | kalenedrael | O.o |
| 02:42.08 | kalenedrael | thanks |
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| 02:42.10 | togs | ...far too well prepared, it seems :P |
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| 02:42.13 | stupidkid | Wyzard, do you know what cause of delay? |
| 02:42.15 | Guerin | kalenedrael: it explains in some detail |
| 02:42.17 | Funzo | •deadcat• doesnt it mean that I have xserver-xfree86 installed bcaz i can type startx and it will try to start |
| 02:42.19 | Carrus85 | !help |
| 02:42.23 | morfeo | how to improve the results of the pdf files obtained using pdflatex? |
| 02:42.28 | Carrus85 | dang, that doesn't work... |
| 02:42.28 | carcrashnights | kalenedrael: I just switched from Gentoo and FreeBSD, Debian is great! |
| 02:42.39 | Guerin | morfeo: #latex |
| 02:42.43 | kalenedrael | i think that my question is frequently asked... |
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| 02:42.51 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Having IPv6 support in your system doesn't mean you're automatically using IPv6... you most likely are not using IPv6, but having the ipv6 module loaded is harmless |
| 02:42.53 | carcrashnights | I wouldn't bother with Ubuntu unless your heart is really set on it. |
| 02:42.55 | vezult | Carrus85: try: /msg dpkg help |
| 02:42.55 | stupidkid | my speed test is still normal |
| 02:43.02 | Guerin | kalenedrael: yes, but it should be asked in #ubuntu after referring to the website. |
| 02:43.03 | Carrus85 | yeah, that worked |
| 02:43.03 | Wyzard | stupidkid: The problem sounds like it's latency in opening connections |
| 02:43.04 | abrotman | kalenedrael: ubuntu is based on debian .. most of us prefer debian |
| 02:43.06 | kalenedrael | i just came over to kubuntu from fedora core 3 |
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| 02:43.16 | Wyzard | stupidkid: You could use a tool such as ethereal to take a closer look at what's going on |
| 02:43.17 | stupidkid | Wyzard, how do i check |
| 02:43.24 | kalenedrael | i am having problems with it |
| 02:43.34 | Guerin | kalenedrael: oh, ubuntulinux.org, not ubuntu.org, which is something else |
| 02:43.39 | abrotman | kalenedrael: if you need ubuntu/kubuntu support .. try #ubuntu or #kubuntu |
| 02:43.44 | Guerin | kalenedrael: GO TO #ubuntu! |
| 02:43.52 | carcrashnights | kalenedrael: Debian is fantastic, much better than Fedora (which I use at work). |
| 02:43.52 | Carrus85 | another question I have as well... is there any cluster-oriented debian distribution? |
| 02:43.53 | kalenedrael | i'm going, i'm going! :P |
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| 02:44.00 | seven_six_two | fuser says proc 5771 is using my cdrom, and it's famd |
| 02:44.11 | abrotman | kalenedrael: or install debian proper :) |
| 02:44.20 | kalenedrael | yes, that was one of the options |
| 02:44.24 | Carrus85 | designed for those of us who want to set up a server, but have tons of crappy machines instead of one good one... |
| 02:44.28 | kalenedrael | someone suggested ubuntu though |
| 02:44.33 | vezult | seven_six_two: kill famd. |
| 02:44.35 | seven_six_two | am i going to have to log out everytime i want to unmount my drive? |
| 02:44.42 | morfeo | i get only blurred fonts |
| 02:44.43 | seven_six_two | don't i need it? |
| 02:44.47 | abrotman | seven_six_two: i have famd .. i have no such problems |
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| 02:44.59 | stupidkid | Wyzard, i installed that too |
| 02:45.01 | stupidkid | tool |
| 02:45.02 | vezult | seven_six_two: not really. you can always restart it, of course |
| 02:45.04 | Carrus85 | debian is nice because it is slick to install new packages... kinda like gentoo that way, only much less compiling and configuring |
| 02:45.05 | stupidkid | how do i use it :( |
| 02:45.10 | seven_six_two | abrotman: unfortunately your experiences don't help me with mine |
| 02:45.12 | chealer | seven_six_two: you can uninstall famd so that it really stops doing it |
| 02:45.20 | abrotman | seven_six_two: you could try uninstalling famd |
| 02:45.46 | ronw | another newbie question: how do i switch from gnome to kde. this is a fresh install |
| 02:45.54 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Tell it to start capturing packets, open a webpage or something (whatever it is that's being slow), tell it to stop capturing, and then look at the packets it captured |
| 02:46.06 | Wyzard | stupidkid: You have to know a bit about TCP/IP to use it effectively |
| 02:46.08 | seven_six_two | i wouldn't mind, but i don't know about it's necessity. when i start doing things like that, i end up borking my system |
| 02:46.09 | chealer | seven_six_two: and you can stop fam instead of killing it |
| 02:46.30 | seven_six_two | sent it a sigkill or sigint? |
| 02:46.31 | stupidkid | hahha |
| 02:46.39 | chealer | ronw: did you install KDE? |
| 02:46.49 | stupidkid | i dont know much about tcp/ip :( |
| 02:46.52 | stupidkid | i'm just a kid |
| 02:46.57 | chealer | seven_six_two: use the init.d script |
| 02:46.59 | ronw | chealer, yes |
| 02:47.02 | abrotman | seven_six_two: if you don't know you need it .. you probably don't :) |
| 02:47.05 | ronw | part of the net install |
| 02:47.08 | chealer | ronw: you're using gdm? |
| 02:47.13 | Funzo | can anybody tell me do i need internet to setup kde? |
| 02:47.16 | abrotman | !info famd |
| 02:47.18 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Well, you could also try in Windows to see whether you have the problem there |
| 02:47.20 | ronw | chealer, i assume so |
| 02:47.26 | Wyzard | stupidkid: It sounds to me like it's probably an issue with your ISP. |
| 02:47.27 | stupidkid | adns: too many nameservers, ignoring 66.189.130.21 |
| 02:47.27 | abrotman | !info fam |
| 02:47.27 | seven_six_two | abrotman: if i was less experienced i might believe that |
| 02:47.29 | chealer | Funzo: why would you? |
| 02:47.30 | dpkg | fam: (File Alteration Monitor), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.7.0-7 (sid), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 260 kB |
| 02:47.36 | rik_ | Is openoffice off topic by the way? |
| 02:47.40 | abrotman | seven_six_two: i assume you're running gnome ? |
| 02:47.40 | stupidkid | Wyzard, no |
| 02:47.45 | Funzo | well i dont know... these packages i was told to use dont exist on the cd |
| 02:47.46 | ronw | chealer, do i just apt-get remove gdm and install kdm? |
| 02:47.48 | stupidkid | Wyzard, the windows machine is very fast |
| 02:47.55 | chealer | ronw: don't you have the option in your menus when you do the graphical login? |
| 02:47.56 | Funzo | i install kde and the xserver but not it dont work |
| 02:47.59 | stupidkid | it's only happend on this machine |
| 02:48.02 | chealer | ronw: you don't have to |
| 02:48.14 | seven_six_two | ooh optional. that sounds good. i'll do that then. thanks |
| 02:48.15 | ronw | ok, ill check it out |
| 02:48.19 | ronw | chealer, thanks |
| 02:48.26 | seven_six_two | no, kde |
| 02:48.34 | stupidkid | i found this 2 lines in my host.conf |
| 02:48.36 | stupidkid | order hosts,bind |
| 02:48.36 | stupidkid | multi on |
| 02:48.36 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Well, ethereal is the best way to find out what's actually happening on your network |
| 02:48.37 | abrotman | seven_six_two: i've run gnome with/without it .. it's useful for gnome-volume-manager or some such crap |
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| 02:48.41 | seven_six_two | abrotman: but i have gnome installed |
| 02:48.49 | stupidkid | is it ok? |
| 02:48.57 | abrotman | seven_six_two: yeah .. if you install gnome via `apt-get install gnome` .. it gets installed |
| 02:49.16 | vezult | seven_six_two: you can just disabled it. no need to remove it completely |
| 02:49.27 | Wyzard | stupidkid: That's the default, and yes, it's fine |
| 02:49.29 | chealer | Funzo: if you mean installing KDE, yes you need a mirror if KDE isn't on your CDs |
| 02:49.46 | Wyzard | stupidkid: You say that the problem is with DNS lookups, but when you did a lookup with dig, it was fast |
| 02:50.05 | stupidkid | yeah Wyzard :) |
| 02:50.07 | seven_six_two | ah ok. i'll just remove it then. i've gotten into the habit of leaving stuff i don't know about until i do. that's why i've left it. if i research every single thing i think i need to know, I'd never get any work done. so, one thing at a time |
| 02:50.14 | stupidkid | i have no idea what problem was |
| 02:50.19 | stupidkid | and i dont know much tcp/ip |
| 02:50.20 | Wyzard | stupidkid: ...which would seem to suggest that it is *not* a DNS problem |
| 02:50.21 | stupidkid | :( |
| 02:50.26 | stupidkid | yes |
| 02:50.30 | stupidkid | i noticed |
| 02:50.53 | chealer | Carrus85: would it be a disk space problem? |
| 02:50.56 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Well, trying to diagnose a problem with something that you know little about is fundamentally a difficult thing to do |
| 02:51.03 | Wyzard | stupidkid: This would be a good opportunity to learn |
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| 02:51.08 | Carrus85 | I doubt it... it has a 4gb drive in it |
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| 02:51.14 | Carrus85 | but you never know... |
| 02:51.23 | stupidkid | ok Wyzard |
| 02:51.32 | stupidkid | thank you :) |
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| 02:51.45 | stupidkid | i'm going to dig more google |
| 02:51.50 | dada | anyone know anything about setting up a linux router? |
| 02:52.07 | vezult | dada: what about it, specifically? |
| 02:52.12 | seven_six_two | dada: a computer acting as a router? |
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| 02:52.34 | abrotman | netfilter.org |
| 02:52.49 | dada | this machine im on now.. I am trying to setup for my connection for all my other pc's in the house.. im obviously online here.. and my other machines can get ip's from this machine.. but they are not getting anything else... |
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| 02:53.35 | stupidkid | Wyzard, i have these modules loaded |
| 02:53.38 | vezult | dada: you'll need to nat them, i'm guessing |
| 02:53.38 | stupidkid | iptable_nat 25228 2 ipt_MASQUERADE |
| 02:53.38 | stupidkid | ip_conntrack 35724 3 ipt_MASQUERADE,ipt_state,iptable_nat |
| 02:53.38 | stupidkid | iptable_filter 2880 1 |
| 02:53.39 | dada | one is a windows xp machine.. and everything auto works on it.. everything looks good.. the ip, dns servers.. gateway.. everything looks good.. but no internet |
| 02:53.46 | abrotman | so close |
| 02:53.51 | abrotman | !flood |
| 02:53.52 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 02:54.10 | stupidkid | :D |
| 02:54.12 | stupidkid | sorry |
| 02:54.14 | jasoncohen | anyone know why openssh 4.0p1 or 3.9p1 haven't gone into unstable? |
| 02:54.17 | seven_six_two | lsof says famd is using my drive but apt-get remove and synaptic don't list it |
| 02:54.19 | stupidkid | i can't control myself |
| 02:54.26 | mwilson | Anyone know why they need to? |
| 02:54.29 | abrotman | jasoncohen: probably sarge freeze .. and i've heard 4.0 isn't so hot |
| 02:54.33 | jasoncohen | 4.0p1 is currently in experimental |
| 02:54.42 | abrotman | jasoncohen: and 4.1 is released now |
| 02:54.46 | chealer | seven_six_two: fam |
| 02:55.02 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Those would be needed if you were using this machine as a router, as dada is trying to do... for communication by the machine itself, they're irrelevant |
| 02:55.08 | dada | nat them? |
| 02:55.26 | stupidkid | i dont have a router Wyzard |
| 02:55.29 | Wyzard | dada: Install a package such as ipmasq or firehol |
| 02:55.30 | seven_six_two | chealer: of course. now i can't do it without removing gnome. that's nice |
| 02:55.39 | dada | trying to read the lines here since so many conversations goin on |
| 02:55.39 | stupidkid | i only use a hub |
| 02:55.43 | vezult | dada: yes. that basically means that it hides the internal network addresses from teh computers on the internet |
| 02:55.44 | jasoncohen | abrotman, ah, i hadn't heard that about 4.0. 3.9 was placed in experimental in january 4th so i don't think it's a freeze issue |
| 02:55.45 | chealer | seven_six_two: are you sure? |
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| 02:55.48 | seven_six_two | chealer: by "of course" i mean "i'm an idiot" |
| 02:55.48 | Wyzard | dada: which will set up the necessary iptables rules and enable forwarding |
| 02:55.59 | jasoncohen | on january 4th that is |
| 02:56.01 | vezult | dada: http://lartc.org/ might be useful |
| 02:56.03 | abrotman | jasoncohen: you could ask the maintainer .. or check BTS .. probably listed there |
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| 02:56.18 | Wyzard | stupidkid: What type of Internet connection are you using? |
| 02:56.23 | seven_six_two | chealer: apt-get remove says fam gnome gnome-desktop-environment to be removed |
| 02:56.27 | chealer | seven_six_two: maybe you just didn't read about dpkg -S |
| 02:56.28 | stupidkid | i have cable Wyzard |
| 02:56.36 | Wyzard | stupidkid: And what's plugged into your hub? |
| 02:56.36 | stupidkid | i use dhcp to get online |
| 02:56.41 | chealer | seven_six_two: those are just metapackages though |
| 02:56.51 | seven_six_two | chealer: i'm sure i haven't read about it, but i will right now |
| 02:56.53 | stupidkid | Wyzard, cable modem |
| 02:56.58 | vezult | dada: i take that back. looks like it's got more than you really need to do. |
| 02:57.06 | stupidkid | i use a hub to share internet connection with windows:) |
| 02:57.22 | chealer | seven_six_two: that's why you may want to read the APT HOWTO, or some manpages |
| 02:57.26 | rik_ | *rik_ stands quitely in the corner, awkwardly shuffling his feet. "This is how school felt", he mused to himself...:( |
| 02:57.45 | seven_six_two | chealer: maybe metapackages, but doesn't that mean that removing them will remove a larger # of pkgs? |
| 02:57.57 | Wyzard | stupidkid: You have a cable modem and two PCs plugged into a hub? |
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| 02:58.03 | chealer | seven_six_two: no. metapackages depend on packages that matter |
| 02:58.06 | stupidkid | yeah |
| 02:58.35 | vezult | dada: man iptables, then search for SNAT |
| 02:58.45 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Most ISPs only allow one computer to be online at a time... if yours allows two, I'm surprised |
| 02:58.53 | seven_six_two | chealer: i do read manpages. there's a lot of them though, and i can't remember everything. i do appreciate the pointer. i don't ask for handholding, just a pointer once in a while. thanks |
| 02:58.55 | dada | installing ipmasq now.. |
| 02:58.58 | stupidkid | Wyzard, haha |
| 02:59.52 | Wyzard | stupidkid: The point of the devices that people call "routers" (which is sort of a stretch, like calling a Powerwheels toy an automobile) is to masquerade all the computers on your network with the appearance of a single computer from the outside world's point of view |
| 02:59.58 | Wyzard | stupidkid: specifically for that reason |
| 03:00.07 | stupidkid | oh |
| 03:00.08 | vezult | dada: that will probably be easiest |
| 03:00.14 | dada | holy shiat |
| 03:00.22 | dada | i been workin on this for a couple hours now |
| 03:00.26 | dada | thx.. that did it |
| 03:00.45 | dada | why in the world is there no documentation on this anywhere on the net?! |
| 03:00.50 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Anyway, some ISPs allow multiple sessions, but usually it's something you have to pay extra for |
| 03:01.06 | stupidkid | oh |
| 03:01.39 | Wyzard | stupidkid: If it works at all then I guess your ISP allows it, but just to see what happens, you might want to try shutting down the Windows box, doing "/etc/init.d/networking restart" on the Linux box, and then trying again with the stuff that you're seeing slowness with |
| 03:01.40 | stupidkid | i use charter |
| 03:01.50 | dada | ok, more work to do.. thanks alot everyone.. ;-) |
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| 03:04.10 | vezult | dada: it's probably that you werent sure exactly what you were looking for. i've spent hours looking for info on stuff before, just to find that I wasnt using the correct terminology. |
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| 03:07.01 | rik_ | So noone uses OOO1.9? abi/gnumeric is fine for me, I just thought I could help a friend out. Nevermind, I'll tell them it can't be done... |
| 03:07.03 | stupidkid | Wyzard, nothing change |
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| 03:07.51 | Meltir_ | im in a bit of a pickle- im trying to use wget to get some images that ive seded out of html pages. all is fine - the urls are all good, but when i pass them on to wget as in "wget $URL -O $DEST", the ':' 'http://foo.jpg' get killed, and the download fails... any ideas ? |
| 03:07.58 | abrotman | rik_: there exists a #debian-oo |
| 03:08.48 | sabin | can someone help me with a makefile, i get this error: Makefile:20: *** target pattern contains no `%'. Stop. |
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| 03:09.35 | Wyzard | stupidkid: Get a book or online tutorial on TCP/IP, and take a look at your Linux box's network traffic using ethereal |
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| 03:11.18 | TwistedLappy | Anynone know what /boot/grub/menu.lst in #nonaltoptions or #kopt has vga=791 means? What should I add to menu.lst? #kopt vga = 791 or kopt <enter> vga = 791? |
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| 03:11.54 | TwistedLappy | **sais that |
| 03:11.55 | TwistedLappy | Be sure that your /boot/grub/menu.lst in #nonaltoptions or #kopt has vga=791 |
| 03:12.03 | Meltir_ | or does anyone here know of a diff cli tool to get a specified remote image and save it as $X ? |
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| 03:12.43 | stupidkid | Ok Wyzard, thanks! :) |
| 03:13.17 | jim | Meltir: give specific example |
| 03:13.26 | jim | err... |
| 03:13.40 | jim | Meltir: give specific example that I could try from here |
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| 03:15.08 | Zen_Lunatic | I have stable installed, but need a newer version of Python. Is there a way to apt-get that package from unstable or testing? |
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| 03:15.54 | smacnay | using alsa - would one be wiser to capture sound from the card with arecord or sox? I am capturing fm radio programs, and piping to oggenc, while away so that I can then listen to them later. |
| 03:15.54 | K_Dallas | Zen_Lunatic, apt-get -t unstable install package (make sure you have unstable in your sources.list) |
| 03:15.55 | jim | Zen_Lunatic: one possibility, build python yourself in somewhere like your home dir or /usr/local |
| 03:16.26 | Wyzard | Zen_Lunatic: There are backports of many packages available, but also be aware that sarge is expected to be released in a week, and it's pretty much ready to use already... you could just upgrade, or wait a week for the official release |
| 03:16.49 | Wyzard | jim: Not a preferred solution, not by a long shot |
| 03:16.50 | jim | the thing is, installing a package outside your dist could cause the upgrade of other packages which might break your system |
| 03:17.08 | jim | Wyzard: if he wants to keep his stable intact it is :) |
| 03:17.27 | Zen_Lunatic | Yeah, I realize that, but I NEED a newer version of Python that badly. |
| 03:17.28 | jim | well maybe. |
| 03:17.35 | jim | check the depends |
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| 03:18.06 | jim | maybe in this particular case it won't try to download (for example) a new version of libc6 |
| 03:18.07 | Zen_Lunatic | Thanks for the answers, people. |
| 03:18.25 | Wyzard | Zen_Lunatic: http://www.backports.org/ |
| 03:18.33 | TwistedLappy | Edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst: |
| 03:18.33 | TwistedLappy | #kopt= ... vga=0x314 Anyone know wtf I am to add to grubmenu.lst? |
| 03:18.55 | chealer | jim: unlikely |
| 03:19.09 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: Add "vga=0x314" to the line that begins with "#kopt=" |
| 03:19.31 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: And then re-run "update-grub", which regenerates the actual boot entries from (among other things) that kopt line |
| 03:20.03 | jim | chealer: not in the general case... but getting packages of newer things that are -built- for stable is much better than trying to install an unstable package on a stable dist |
| 03:20.16 | ethics | ODBC exists on linux.....is there such a thing similar to "MS Access" which can act as a frontend for linked tables? |
| 03:20.22 | TwistedLappy | Wyzard: there is no like that sais #kopt= |
| 03:20.28 | TwistedLappy | Wyzard: should I add it? |
| 03:20.28 | edison | Help i buy an hard disk segate 160 gb ide, i have an old mother board and i have to use setmax to use my 80 gb maxtor, i try it with segate but setmax report only 137.4 Gb and fdisk return me an error on that drive. I don't know what to do ? |
| 03:20.39 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: Have you customized the file on your own? |
| 03:20.41 | rik_ | abrotman: Thanks! |
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| 03:20.46 | jim | (which is a really bad suggestion, btw... in the general case you can expect anything from perfect with no problem to full and permanent unusability of your entire installation) |
| 03:20.58 | chealer | jim: oh, I didn't realize you were talking about backports |
| 03:20.59 | TwistedLappy | Wyzard: no... should I add it in? |
| 03:21.11 | Meltir_ | jim: thx. i had a bug in the script - its ok now. i suppose this is what i get for coding in bash at 5am :P |
| 03:21.46 | TwistedLappy | Wyzard: should I paste my grubmenu.lst ? |
| 03:21.48 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: Is there a line that says "BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST" ? |
| 03:21.50 | deadcat | vga=791 should do the trick |
| 03:21.53 | jim | chealer: I wasn't... the backports are a better idea... but building things yourself is fine as well, so long as you understand: you build it, you maintain it for yourself |
| 03:21.54 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: In #flood, sure |
| 03:21.59 | TwistedLappy | Wyzard: yes,, |
| 03:22.05 | ethics | edisaon your bios on the mobo may have a large hardisk flash..but dont hold your breath....you may find that replacing the boards or adding a pci IDE controller with a bios will assist......i dont think linux can get around the issue but im not 100 percent on it |
| 03:22.35 | deadcat | berkeley seems down. |
| 03:22.40 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: The kopt line should be in that section... it's the last of a group of lines which begins with "Start Default Options" |
| 03:22.45 | Meltir_ | thx guys |
| 03:22.49 | jim | what's -not- a good idea is installing a sid package on a stable installation without checking things out |
| 03:22.58 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: you working tomorrow? |
| 03:23.18 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: for my dad yes... not really anything else though.. |
| 03:23.28 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: pj/ |
| 03:23.39 | TwistedLappy | pj? |
| 03:23.48 | deadcat | pj? |
| 03:24.28 | ethics | how do i search for packages via dpkg in msg? |
| 03:24.28 | deadcat | oh. i dont remember typing pj (= |
| 03:24.45 | deadcat | ah.. screen binding (= |
| 03:25.07 | chealer | ethics: search how...can't you use packages.d.o? |
| 03:25.18 | deadcat | eno-away: find package |
| 03:25.33 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: Why are you trying to work tommorow? |
| 03:25.47 | jim | ethics: yeah, p.d.o and apt-cache are better resources |
| 03:25.52 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: no. i am asking you. i am on my way to sj tomorrow. if you home i drop off the tvcard. |
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| 03:26.13 | jim | dpkg is a bot that's reading the same resources and can get behind |
| 03:26.28 | ethics | chealer: jim; yeah im just researching at work on a non debian box. ill ssh in if need be just thought there was a way to do it here |
| 03:26.45 | jim | ethics: packages.debian.org |
| 03:26.46 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: Ohhhh... I can leave you mine if the mailbox and you can just drop it off in mailbox too... |
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| 03:26.49 | chealer | ethics: there is, if you have a browser |
| 03:27.09 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: its cool. next time. sicne you aint leaving for another 1.5weeks. |
| 03:27.11 | ethics | jim hehe kk gogo 56 k webbrowsing hehe thanks |
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| 03:27.18 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: going to be working for my dad from 7:30am-1:30isht tommorow |
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| 03:27.33 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: no.. taking summer school here |
| 03:27.35 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: damn. you wake up too early (= |
| 03:27.53 | jim | ethics: there arnt any images to load |
| 03:28.01 | jim | or just the logo |
| 03:28.01 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: not per choice... my dad needs help so I have to |
| 03:28.07 | TwistedLappy | brb... reboot |
| 03:28.12 | ethics | jim: yeah that helps hehe 8) |
| 03:28.15 | TwistedLappy | Wyzard: thanks man.. brb |
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| 03:28.30 | jim | the images are not otherwise useful... so you could disable them |
| 03:28.31 | deadcat | ethics: stop being a bitch. (= just 1 image |
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| 03:29.11 | ethics | deadcat: im not being a bitch...im saying thx for only 1 image hehe and that it helps |
| 03:29.13 | deadcat | 9~0+ |
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| 03:32.02 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: screenshots and pics dude (= |
| 03:32.14 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: What? |
| 03:32.21 | deadcat | your laptop |
| 03:32.31 | TwistedLappy | ? |
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| 03:32.39 | jair | hello everybody? |
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| 03:33.04 | TwistedLappy | I just got back to the room... missed whatever your talking about.. |
| 03:33.11 | john | hmm, what ncurses package would i need, for well, ncurses |
| 03:33.19 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: thats all i said. |
| 03:33.24 | kingsley | Why would restarting cupsys cause a printer to go offline? |
| 03:33.29 | ethics | hmm i broke search on packages.d.o hehe |
| 03:33.30 | deadcat | john: libncurses5-dev ? |
| 03:33.42 | jair | guys If i want to do a exact copy of a directory and everything on it, conserving all the details permissions etc. the command should be "cp -a -r file" |
| 03:33.45 | deadcat | ethics: you must be proud |
| 03:34.04 | deadcat | jair: sure |
| 03:34.08 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: What do you mean screenshots and picts dude? Screenshots of what? |
| 03:34.19 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: your machine |
| 03:34.20 | useruser | jair: i'd use tar if i really wanted to be sure |
| 03:34.22 | ethics | deadcat: not really im more curious how hehe |
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| 03:34.37 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: you want pictures of my computer? |
| 03:34.41 | deadcat | ethics: try it and let us know. |
| 03:34.47 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: ya. (= |
| 03:35.00 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: did yiou get builtin wireless working? |
| 03:35.06 | ethics | deadcat...i think it wants operands instead of spaces for 2 words.. |
| 03:35.07 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: gimme a few.. |
| 03:35.23 | Guerin | jair: a implies -r |
| 03:35.35 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: yup... connected wirelessly right now ;) |
| 03:35.47 | deadcat | damn (= what driver? |
| 03:35.48 | Guerin | useruser: i wouldn't. cp works. |
| 03:35.55 | jair | Guerin, so then I should do cp -a |
| 03:36.02 | Guerin | jair: yup. |
| 03:36.06 | jair | useruser, what do you mean |
| 03:36.08 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: I think toyota.. |
| 03:36.11 | jair | Guerin, ok |
| 03:36.23 | jair | useruser, tar will not copy it with compress it |
| 03:36.26 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: aka I have to idea what driver |
| 03:36.27 | jair | right |
| 03:36.28 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: nice. they have good quality products. |
| 03:36.39 | TwistedLappy | ;) |
| 03:36.41 | deadcat | HAHAH |
| 03:36.54 | Guerin | jair: x may also be useful, depends what you're copying |
| 03:37.22 | Guerin | tar doesn't compress, it just wraps a file structure around a bunch of shit |
| 03:37.38 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: #flood |
| 03:37.39 | deadcat | jair: just rsync the motherfucker |
| 03:37.52 | ethics | jim: on packages.debian.org is there a way to search 2 words...i seem to be getting bad queries. |
| 03:37.52 | Guerin | christ |
| 03:38.13 | Guerin | cp does the fucking job, why not use it? |
| 03:38.34 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: it didnt work no? |
| 03:38.59 | jair | Guerin, I am trying to copy a directory and everything inside of it |
| 03:39.06 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: no |
| 03:39.21 | jair | deadcat, I am trying to copy a directory with a lot of fileas and folders inside of it |
| 03:39.25 | deadcat | Guerin: you sure you just dpkg -i splashy, edit menu.lst and reboot? |
| 03:39.25 | jim | ethics: maybe... try clicking on the checkboxes and radiobuttons |
| 03:39.34 | deadcat | !folder |
| 03:39.34 | dpkg | folder is, like, a directory damn it! or near My Computer and Network Neighborhood, or the things you put in a filing cabinet |
| 03:39.54 | Guerin | jair: cp -a /dir/you/want /where/you/want/it |
| 03:40.09 | ethics | jim yeah i did didnt get much help...is ok ill google it see if i can work backwards else ill apt-cache at home later |
| 03:40.09 | Guerin | deadcat: yup. |
| 03:40.17 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: it worked for Guerin (= |
| 03:40.19 | jim | deadcat: well you'd have to read up on what to put in menu.lst, but that sounds right to me |
| 03:40.40 | deadcat | jim: didnt work for me on the ibook either. |
| 03:40.41 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: on update-grub |
| 03:40.45 | jair | Guerin, cool |
| 03:40.50 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: I get Searching for splash image... none found, skipping... |
| 03:40.54 | jair | Guerin, thank you very much |
| 03:40.54 | jim | ethics: this is one query? what are you looking for? |
| 03:41.11 | Guerin | deadcat: it depends on some packages, but they appear to be in sarge. it installed cleanly with dpkg -i splaysh<tab> ; apt-get -f install ; on my sarge box |
| 03:41.17 | ethics | jim: odbc oracle.....oracle odbc drivers |
| 03:41.23 | jim | ethics: one thing you can do is grab the appropriate Packages file and search thru it |
| 03:41.28 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: where am I suppose to put a bootimage? |
| 03:41.38 | deadcat | Guerin: doh. |
| 03:41.38 | TwistedLappy | Errr splashimage |
| 03:41.43 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: that's irrelevant. That's a grub splash image. Reboot and splashy should do its thing. |
| 03:41.53 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: there's oone given already. |
| 03:41.57 | ethics | jim: hmm cool that may do me |
| 03:42.05 | deadcat | jim: splashy worked for you too? |
| 03:42.06 | jim | ethics: wow... did you get thru the 3-hour make-the-first-database process? |
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| 03:42.18 | jim | didn't try it |
| 03:42.21 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: Err... thats shitty Doesnt work then... |
| 03:42.37 | jim | oracle, I've tried :) |
| 03:42.41 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: do you have libdirectfb? dpkg -l |grep it |
| 03:42.43 | ethics | jim: whats that? |
| 03:42.45 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: no splashy on boot since you installed it? |
| 03:42.57 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: does vga = have to be in hex? |
| 03:43.06 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: no |
| 03:43.16 | jim | ethics: when you install oracle and get the binaries situated, you have to create the initial database... |
| 03:43.19 | deadcat | my conclusion for splashy that its shitty. |
| 03:43.24 | Guerin | splashy depends on a few things - make sure they're installed. |
| 03:43.26 | jim | it's never taken me any shorter than 3 hours |
| 03:43.35 | EranJ | What's the command for changing download mirrors? forgot it and can't find |
| 03:43.35 | Guerin | well it IS in experimental. |
| 03:43.37 | deadcat | Guerin: let me retry on the laptop then |
| 03:43.52 | TwistedLappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:44.14 | jim | EranJ: got a favorite text editor? use that... the file you're editing is /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:44.17 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: if splashy is installed and you have no broken deps, you should have what you need to run it |
| 03:44.40 | EranJ | I know.but what the command is? there is some command |
| 03:44.42 | jim | and you can look at the reference doc for that file... man 5 sources.list |
| 03:44.53 | Guerin | EranJ: use apt-setup |
| 03:44.56 | jim | emacs? vi? |
| 03:44.59 | EranJ | gr8! |
| 03:45.08 | Guerin | there's no need to edit sources.list manually most of the time |
| 03:45.16 | Guerin | jim: duh |
| 03:45.21 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=791 correct? |
| 03:45.22 | deadcat | i have all the dep for splashy, and its still dont work. therefor, this shit dont work |
| 03:45.38 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: no. You need to put it in your boot line |
| 03:45.44 | jim | oh, are we on the opposite side we were the other day? |
| 03:45.59 | jim | now you're for configurators? |
| 03:46.04 | ethics | jim: oracle has been running for 2 years on a slolaris box......others DBA it ...im just writing some odbc apps etc.. |
| 03:46.15 | Guerin | oh |
| 03:46.18 | Guerin | your kernel line |
| 03:46.24 | Guerin | like kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=789 |
| 03:46.34 | EranJ | how do I reset 'locales' to original state? |
| 03:46.52 | Guerin | jim: i'm for config tools which are made by debian, for debian, and never break config. |
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| 03:47.02 | Guerin | jim: such as drxx and apt-setup. |
| 03:47.03 | jim | EranJ: first determine the original state |
| 03:47.04 | TwistedLappy | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=791 |
| 03:47.04 | TwistedLappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.24 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: should work then. |
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| 03:47.25 | EranJ | the way it was when debian fresh installed |
| 03:47.32 | jim | oh, so you have a mild case of nih |
| 03:47.38 | mrplum | How can I tell if the Debian Jabber packages has been compiled with SSL support? |
| 03:47.41 | Guerin | EranJ: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 03:47.53 | Guerin | mrplum: read the documentation; download and read the makefile |
| 03:48.11 | EranJ | it tells me to check local settings |
| 03:48.30 | Guerin | jim: nih? |
| 03:48.33 | EranJ | lc_all = unset. why's that?? |
| 03:48.35 | Guerin | !nih |
| 03:48.36 | dpkg | nih is, like, "Not Invented Here" - a syndrome often suffered by developers and companies who tend to reinvent the wheel for no reason other than being able to put their name on it. |
| 03:48.38 | jim | Not Invented Here |
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| 03:48.57 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: #flood please for a second |
| 03:49.01 | jim | if it's Not Invented Here, we ignore it and FUD it |
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| 03:49.21 | Guerin | jim: i have a case of 'if it's known to work, use it'. sources.list is simple for a program to deal with, but difficult for a newbie user. |
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| 03:49.44 | flankk | other than a scheduled release cycle and x.org, what does ubuntu have that debian doesn't? |
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| 03:49.52 | jim | anyone who can read a url can replace the mirror site |
| 03:50.04 | Kero_1116 | hi, i forgot the password of my root on my debain box, how do i retrieve it? |
| 03:50.07 | Guerin | jim: that's demonstrably untrue. |
| 03:50.11 | ethics | flankk: stability issues......security issues probably also |
| 03:50.20 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: #flood? |
| 03:50.32 | ethics | flankk: updated alsa.... |
| 03:50.33 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: i don't do #flood, put it on a httpd |
| 03:50.39 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: kk |
| 03:50.40 | jim | Kero_1116: you can't. |
| 03:50.44 | Guerin | jim: XF86Config-4 is very complicated, which is why drxx doesn't touch it if the md5sum has been changed. |
| 03:50.48 | jim | the password is encrypted |
| 03:50.52 | mrplum | Guerin, looked at the docs, doesn't say if the Debian package has been compiled with SSL support or not |
| 03:50.57 | EranJ | it tells me that locales is broken so how do I fix it? |
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| 03:51.07 | flankk | ethics, i enjoy the stability of debian though, if you need updated [insert package], why not compile your own? |
| 03:51.18 | Guerin | mrplum: check the makefile in the source package then |
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| 03:52.04 | ethics | flankk, yeah i updated my alsa in sarge . but compiling isnt really a thing debian wants you to do... |
| 03:52.07 | jim | Guerin: that's probably a good plan |
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| 03:52.41 | flankk | ethics, well, if it's a production system. otherwise, who cares. |
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| 03:53.39 | jim | ethics: debian is very careful to keep the compilers working well... also note it's -always- true that -someone- has to compile it |
| 03:53.48 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: http://channels.debian.net/paste/173 |
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| 03:54.00 | flankk | jim, heh |
| 03:54.03 | Guerin | backporting stuff from unstable to stable is relatively easy. |
| 03:54.35 | jim | what debian doesn't want, is to have people compile things and put them in places that packages are allowed to touch like /usr (other than /usr/local) |
| 03:54.40 | EranJ | How do I restore default settings for 'locales'? |
| 03:55.05 | ethics | flankk, having said that noobs cant compile in general which is why they go unbuntou jim: yeah i mean in the sense of apt-get install = debian expected |
| 03:55.12 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: output of ls -l /etc/splashy/splashy.fifo |
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| 03:55.34 | Guerin | EranJ: there are no default settings. You define them at install time. |
| 03:56.13 | flankk | ethics, i think it's more about newbs hopping the bandwagon, otherwise they are oblivious. |
| 03:56.17 | EranJ | then how do I choose a language to be default? I got no default one and it seems that i have en_us and en_gb |
| 03:56.29 | jim | ethics: the other thing is, if they compile their own, they are expected to maintain it themselves... I have stuff I've compiled myself, and I have good reason for doing so |
| 03:56.46 | Guerin | EranJ: you use dpkg-reconfigure --plow locales |
| 03:56.56 | jim | my reason is I do not want debian -anything- to touch them at all |
| 03:56.57 | TwistedLappy | prwx------ 1 root root 0 2005-05-30 19:48 / |
| 03:57.03 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: /666 |
| 03:57.08 | TwistedLappy | Errr ignore that |
| 03:57.17 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: should be prwx------ 1 root root 0 2005-05-30 18:01 /etc/splashy/splashy.fifo |
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| 03:57.27 | jim | p? |
| 03:57.29 | Guerin | TwistedLappy: fix it using those instructions |
| 03:57.34 | deadcat | jim: pipe |
| 03:57.44 | jim | a pipe called /? :) |
| 03:57.50 | jim | must be a mistype |
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| 03:58.06 | Guerin | yeah, he's fucked it up |
| 03:58.13 | Guerin | should be called splashy.fifo |
| 03:58.19 | EranJ | setting locale failed. still same error like before |
| 03:58.35 | Guerin | i have to go to work again |
| 03:58.41 | Guerin | have fun, now wontcha |
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| 03:59.53 | EranJ | jim: can u help with the locales error? |
| 04:00.36 | jim | EranJ: no... because I don't know the default settings |
| 04:00.41 | TwistedLappy | Guerin: Did it.. I dont see a difference prwx------ 1 root root 0 2005-05-30 20:58 /etc/splashy/splashy.fifo |
| 04:01.07 | EranJ | can u give commands for which I'll ask for? |
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| 04:01.37 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: can i ssh into your laptop and take a look? |
| 04:01.50 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: yeah.. gimme a sec |
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| 04:03.04 | deadcat | !.ph |
| 04:03.14 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: port was 21 right? |
| 04:03.18 | deadcat | 22 |
| 04:03.21 | TwistedLappy | kk |
| 04:03.56 | EranJ | jim: I've got an idea |
| 04:04.17 | deadcat | EranJ: ya. but do we really need a knife? |
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| 04:04.55 | EranJ | I thought about removing locales, deleting the settings files and then install it. will it do the work? |
| 04:05.13 | deadcat | probably |
| 04:05.25 | EranJ | then... how do I do that? |
| 04:05.36 | jim | EranJ: maybe, but while the locales are gone, make sure you hold onto your root shell |
| 04:05.41 | deadcat | apt-get install --reinstall locales |
| 04:05.42 | jim | man dpkg |
| 04:05.54 | jim | that won't do it |
| 04:06.02 | jim | he has to purge |
| 04:06.06 | deadcat | ah. |
| 04:06.11 | EranJ | what's purge? |
| 04:06.16 | jim | man dpkg |
| 04:06.23 | deadcat | apt-get remove --purge locales |
| 04:06.26 | jim | it's been written |
| 04:06.46 | EranJ | should I cancel reinstall? |
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| 04:07.23 | ash_ | deadcat: sorry got kicked opening port |
| 04:07.28 | jim | you're running stable right? that would be good... because support for you would be easier |
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| 04:07.29 | remmy_ | Can someone help me setup my sound? |
| 04:07.33 | deadcat | ash_: hehe. |
| 04:07.48 | jim | remmy_: /msg dpkg smart questions |
| 04:07.48 | EranJ | I'm running sarge |
| 04:07.52 | deadcat | remmy_: can you help me wire wireless? |
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| 04:08.11 | newbie | hi! need help from u guys! ihave problem when booting to GUI.. the error says: " (ee) XF86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice (ee) generic mouse: cannot open input device (ee) preinit failed for input device 'generic mouse'" what am i going to do with it? i cannot log in to gdm |
| 04:08.28 | EranJ | "cannot open locale definition file 'en'" why's that/ |
| 04:08.36 | deadcat | newbie: do you have mousedev loaded? |
| 04:08.41 | remmy_ | ok howabout this, my sound card does not work and i do not know where to begin |
| 04:08.42 | ash_ | deadcat: 68.126.220.221 |
| 04:08.48 | deadcat | ash_: k |
| 04:08.56 | jair | Guerin, which is a good application to buld a web site on linux? |
| 04:08.57 | jim | sarge isn't bad since it might be released in a few days |
| 04:09.08 | deadcat | ash_: in |
| 04:09.16 | newbie | upon booting i reciev this error |
| 04:09.19 | jim | emacs, vi |
| 04:09.29 | jim | or pico or nano |
| 04:09.47 | deadcat | ash_: next time you install a debian box. press F2 or type linux26 to use a 2.6 kernel. |
| 04:10.03 | newbie | deadcat: how would i know if mousedev loaded? |
| 04:10.17 | ash_ | deadcat: yeah... thought it was automatic... last time install 2.6 kernel without even asking... |
| 04:10.22 | deadcat | newbie: lsmod |grep mouse |
| 04:10.35 | EranJ | it keeps saying lc_all= unset |
| 04:10.41 | jim | and lookign at the logs might help you find out why it's not |
| 04:10.42 | ash_ | deadcat: can you increase the resolution of the console? |
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| 04:11.06 | rixth | Hmmm. My new SATA (SCSI) drive came today, now, when I go to install (about 80% through the base system step), I get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" I havn't found anything useful on this. I've had no problems installing on a 20gb IDE disc on the same computer. |
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| 04:11.11 | deadcat | ash_: i will try |
| 04:11.31 | ash_ | deadcat: ty love you.. ; ) |
| 04:11.40 | newbie | deadcat:and what if it's not loaded? what im gonna do |
| 04:11.47 | jim | rixth: sata works on later 2.6 |
| 04:12.11 | rixth | This disc has 2.6.10 |
| 04:12.20 | deadcat | newbie: the load the motherfucker |
| 04:12.23 | newbie | deadcat: what causes this to happen |
| 04:12.34 | deadcat | newbie: modprobe mousedev |
| 04:12.53 | jim | rixth: do you have debian installed now? |
| 04:13.19 | rixth | No, I'm on XP at the moment. |
| 04:13.34 | EranJ | jim or deadcat: can u ssh my linux machine to fix the locales? |
| 04:13.42 | remmy_ | i have a sound blaster live 5.1 xgamer card. how would i install it? the drivers are not available on creatives website? |
| 04:13.58 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: builtin wireless ya.? |
| 04:14.14 | jim | remmy_: isn't that emu10k1? |
| 04:14.15 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: ya.. |
| 04:14.26 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: eth1 i think |
| 04:14.52 | remmy_ | jim, yes |
| 04:15.05 | jim | remmy_: try telling alsaconf you have that |
| 04:15.17 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: i want to see what chipset it is. its using orinoco, so it MIGHT be a prism (= |
| 04:15.26 | remmy_ | jim, how do i do that? |
| 04:15.42 | jair | anyone here can recommend me a good tool to create web sites on php and html? on Linux? |
| 04:15.45 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: As long as its not a square... |
| 04:15.53 | deadcat | haha |
| 04:16.17 | ethics | umm since when did sarge have a 2.6.10 kernel? |
| 04:16.18 | jim | check the man page for alsaconf |
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| 04:16.29 | EranJ | something very strange happened. now dpkg-reconfigure locales works! how's that??!! |
| 04:16.34 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: you mean your console is still not full screen yet? |
| 04:16.37 | jim | ethics: doesn't |
| 04:16.42 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: no... |
| 04:16.53 | deadcat | how big is it? |
| 04:16.57 | rixth | So jim, any idea what could be causing tis? |
| 04:16.59 | rixth | this* |
| 04:17.06 | ethics | jim: hmm rixth isnt installing debian then.. |
| 04:17.10 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: someone told me to install xvga??? i installed but didnt know how to setup |
| 04:17.27 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: Errr.. 1600x1200 I think... |
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| 04:17.45 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: oh. then 792 or 793 (= |
| 04:17.47 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: its the current setting for xserver |
| 04:17.47 | jim | rixth: install on the other drive first |
| 04:17.50 | mops | how can I halt the system without ringing the bell? |
| 04:18.03 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: splashy doesnt support that... |
| 04:18.26 | useruser | mops: could you rmmod the speaker module? just a guess |
| 04:18.28 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: ya. so we have to stick with 1024 i guess. |
| 04:18.35 | TwistedLappy | kk big enough |
| 04:18.35 | rixth | jim, it already is. I disconnected the IDE one, plugged in the SATA one, and it won't insall. |
| 04:18.49 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: is that what you getting right now? 1024? or hella small? |
| 04:18.56 | EranJ | which us local do I need?? |
| 04:18.56 | mops | useruser: so it is impossible? |
| 04:19.04 | useruser | mops: i don't know |
| 04:19.11 | ethics | rixth: what exactly are you installing? |
| 04:19.13 | jim | rixth: so in fact you -do- have debian installed... put both drives in |
| 04:19.21 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: xserver uses full screen console uses like 50% |
| 04:19.25 | jim | you don't need to reinstall |
| 04:19.26 | EranJ | us 8859-1/15 or utf8? |
| 04:19.31 | useruser | mops: maybe rmmod pcspkr will do it |
| 04:19.32 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: damn. |
| 04:19.41 | rixth | jim, I want Debian on the SATA drive. |
| 04:19.51 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: all good... notg major |
| 04:20.04 | jim | and you have it on the other drive... so boot into it and copy it across |
| 04:20.05 | mops | ok I'll try |
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| 04:20.20 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: ya. but i just dont know why splashy dont work. it worked for Guerin |
| 04:20.25 | rixth | But what about setting up grub etc? |
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| 04:20.35 | jim | worry about that later |
| 04:20.39 | rixth | Okay, I'll go onto that machine, be back on soon. |
| 04:20.49 | jim | the first thing you have to worry about is access to the drive |
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| 04:21.02 | EranJ | please help so I won't go wrong. should I install en_us 8859-1 or 15 or utf8? |
| 04:21.09 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: I think its because of that access shit it was talking about... do dpkg-reconfigure splashy... it gives error at bottom |
| 04:21.23 | deadcat | k |
| 04:21.31 | jim | EranJ: you can install any, all, or some different ones |
| 04:21.42 | EranJ | which do u have? |
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| 04:21.47 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: where is splashy deb? |
| 04:21.49 | EranJ | I want only 1 but I don't know what I need |
| 04:21.59 | jim | probably en_us 8859-1 |
| 04:22.13 | EranJ | u use it too? |
| 04:22.16 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: apt-get install splash |
| 04:22.17 | TwistedLappy | ? |
| 04:22.21 | TwistedLappy | thats what |
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| 04:22.23 | TwistedLappy | i did |
| 04:22.26 | deadcat | no. |
| 04:22.33 | deadcat | download the .deb. doing it now |
| 04:22.41 | jim | heyy, there's two twi(tab)s now! |
| 04:23.08 | EranJ | u use it too? |
| 04:23.17 | TwistedLappy | jim: I had to bring afk friends ;) |
| 04:23.38 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: you want to reboot? |
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| 04:23.52 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: kk... brb |
| 04:24.41 | rixth | Okay jim, I'm on. |
| 04:25.29 | EranJ | which desktop env. use the least resources? |
| 04:25.33 | jim | rixth: how many partitions is your debian? |
| 04:25.44 | jim | EranJ: not having one. |
| 04:26.04 | jim | EranJ: and less resources than that, don't run X |
| 04:26.18 | EranJ | I'm talking about having one. I'm familiar to fluxbox? is xfce better? |
| 04:26.24 | rixth | jim, just two. but the other drive is setup differently, come to #rixth and I'll paste it Or #flodd |
| 04:26.25 | EranJ | or ice something? |
| 04:26.31 | mwilson | EranJ: Define "resources". |
| 04:26.37 | jim | I like fvwm and sawfish |
| 04:26.41 | EranJ | less ram and goes fastest |
| 04:26.44 | stupidkid | Wyzard, ya still around? |
| 04:26.46 | kensuke | EranJ: I find window-maker to be quite good, but there is blackbox as well I think. |
| 04:26.49 | ethics | EranJ, well xfce4,icewm,twm,amiwm are lightweight .....which is the least i dunno |
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| 04:27.15 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: Weeee... ! I fixed it! What was the problem? |
| 04:27.20 | ethics | EranJ, i think theres a choice of 30+ WMs last i looked.... |
| 04:27.29 | EranJ | Ok, tell me which you guess is best: blackbox,fluxbox or xfce4? |
| 04:27.37 | EranJ | got p. 3 667mhz and 128 ram |
| 04:27.40 | ethics | !better |
| 04:27.40 | dpkg | methinks better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 04:27.52 | remmy_ | ok alsaconf does not find any sound hardware |
| 04:28.02 | ethics | remmy_ what card? |
| 04:28.06 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: How can I set it to a mode between verbose and the full thing,,,? I want to see the text and the graphics is that possible? |
| 04:28.16 | MrKeuner | !stallman |
| 04:28.16 | dpkg | methinks stallman is an arrogant self-serving hypocritical closed-minded wanker, or rms, or ask me abour rms |
| 04:28.26 | remmy_ | ethics, sound blaster live its the Emu10k1 chipset |
| 04:28.28 | kensuke | we know what he manes by better... <EranJ> less ram and goes fastest |
| 04:28.30 | kensuke | :-) |
| 04:28.33 | stupidkid | is there a way we can disable nameserv look up? |
| 04:28.44 | kensuke | s/manes/means |
| 04:28.49 | stupidkid | all 6 of my nameserver are dead |
| 04:29.03 | stupidkid | it makes my searching is really slow |
| 04:29.12 | rixth | !rms |
| 04:29.12 | dpkg | i heard rms is Richard M. Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) and the GNU project, as well as the original author of the GNU C Compiler and GNU Emacs, one hell of a lisp coder. see fsf. or "Join us now and share the software, you'll be free hackers" |
| 04:29.17 | stupidkid | nameserver* |
| 04:29.19 | EranJ | just choose me the fastest: blackbox/fluxbox/xfce4 |
| 04:29.20 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: remember. splashy SUCKS so cant. (= |
| 04:29.21 | ethics | remmy_ : modprobe doesnt find it? |
| 04:29.29 | deadcat | EranJ: open |
| 04:29.32 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: all good ;) |
| 04:29.37 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: so it worked? |
| 04:29.41 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: ty I love you ;) |
| 04:29.44 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: yes. |
| 04:29.44 | EranJ | huh? |
| 04:29.49 | remmy_ | ethics, i dunno what modprobe is.. im new to linux |
| 04:29.49 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: damn. i want to see ( |
| 04:29.54 | kensuke | EranJ: the are all so small, just install them and see for yourself :-) |
| 04:29.59 | remmy_ | ethics, how would i run it? |
| 04:30.02 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: You already have it dont you? |
| 04:30.03 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: shitty thing dont work on ppc |
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| 04:30.26 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: you have the real bootsplash dont you? |
| 04:30.31 | Open_VMS | anyone here have website with cool C code on it or learning resources? |
| 04:30.38 | EranJ | is there one which is more compatible with programs? |
| 04:30.40 | ethics | remmy_ modprobe is what loads modules.....as root, modprobe -a MODULE |
| 04:30.49 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: i have fbsplash but it doesnt show shit when booting up. only after its up i get the images on the console |
| 04:30.53 | ethics | remmy sec ill find the EMU driver module name |
| 04:31.48 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: Ahhh... good deal... well.. if it will make you feel better.. reason why mine works and your doesnt is because I am l33t haxor and your not |
| 04:32.07 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: damn you (= |
| 04:32.17 | deadcat | too leet for me |
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| 04:32.38 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: does the bar actually move? |
| 04:32.55 | ethics | remmy_ hehe its just modprobe emu10k1 |
| 04:33.04 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: yeah but it freezes at like 70% and still boots... |
| 04:33.12 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: hahaa. |
| 04:33.23 | jair | guys do you know a tool that allow me create web sites using Linux |
| 04:33.31 | ethics | remmy_ once you run that type lsmod and see if theres a emu10k1 in the list |
| 04:33.38 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: no images after everything is boot right? switch to F1 and see if its black |
| 04:33.38 | jair | other than write all the html code by hand? |
| 04:33.49 | mwilson | jair: The text editor of your choice. |
| 04:33.59 | ethics | jair: i think ooo has a writer for htm/web |
| 04:34.02 | deadcat | jair: steal people's code |
| 04:34.08 | jair | hahaha |
| 04:34.11 | jair | nice |
| 04:34.13 | deadcat | no kidding |
| 04:34.17 | jair | what about if they have php |
| 04:34.19 | deadcat | fast/works |
| 04:34.27 | jair | deadcat, php I can not see it? |
| 04:34.33 | deadcat | jair: steal their output (= |
| 04:34.35 | jair | it is ok |
| 04:34.39 | jair | hahah |
| 04:34.39 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: it was all black when I booted up but fine now |
| 04:34.44 | jair | ok |
| 04:34.49 | jair | thank you guys |
| 04:34.50 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: so no images. |
| 04:34.54 | jair | forgot about oo |
| 04:34.59 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: no |
| 04:35.02 | deadcat | k |
| 04:35.11 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: wasnt suppose to be right? |
| 04:35.17 | deadcat | nah |
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| 04:35.32 | mwilson | feh, who needs bootsplash |
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| 04:35.50 | deadcat | mwilson: not anymore (= |
| 04:35.54 | TwistedLappy | Who needs electricity? |
| 04:36.14 | TwistedLappy | I mean no one.. but nice to have right? |
| 04:36.21 | deadcat | ya |
| 04:36.38 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: ty. I will trade you laptop ;) |
| 04:36.45 | deadcat | HAHAAH hell no |
| 04:37.01 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: you sure... its a l33t haxor lappy.. |
| 04:37.19 | deadcat | haha. time for you to work on sleeping |
| 04:37.49 | TwistedLappy | How are you suppose to get to sleeping... ? What is the command? |
| 04:37.51 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: modprobe -r orinoco when not using wireless. save some bat |
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| 04:38.14 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: i think i installed some tosh util stuff on my old tosh and apm -s |
| 04:38.29 | TwistedLappy | kk thanks |
| 04:39.01 | Caffeinated | TwistedLappy: I have the best lock sleeping from the power button. |
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| 04:39.01 | EranJ | I saw a screenshot with a mac taskbar, how do u do that? |
| 04:39.01 | EranJ | meant clone |
| 04:39.02 | Caffeinated | TwistedLappy: Did you modprobe for apm / acpi? |
| 04:39.17 | deadcat | EranJ: many. pypanel, desklets, and others |
| 04:39.19 | michal_ | are there any pcanywhere v10 compatible clients for linux? |
| 04:39.24 | Caffeinated | EranJ: You buy a Mac Mini and plug your CRT monitor into the back of it. |
| 04:39.35 | EranJ | hehe :-) |
| 04:39.36 | TwistedLappy | Caffeinated: Errr... Dont know. |
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| 04:39.42 | EranJ | are those programs? |
| 04:39.45 | deadcat | EranJ: they ugly though (= |
| 04:40.03 | michal_ | i can't believe symantec charges $20 for a 30 day trial of pcanywhere :P |
| 04:40.07 | deadcat | EranJ: if you wnat to make it look like a mac, pay for it. else its shitty |
| 04:40.15 | EranJ | I like the "growing icons" shit,kinda sweet |
| 04:40.20 | Caffeinated | Why would want a Mac menu bar on Linux? That doesn't make sense. |
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| 04:40.43 | EranJ | telling u dude, i saw that on a screenshot |
| 04:40.58 | deadcat | EranJ: i know. they shitty laggy too. |
| 04:40.58 | EranJ | it seems like people want that |
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| 04:41.02 | Caffeinated | EranJ: You are best off buying a Mac Mini. |
| 04:41.08 | deadcat | EranJ: cus those fuckers cant afford a mac (= |
| 04:41.20 | EranJ | fuck them. I'll never buy a mac. what for?? |
| 04:41.22 | Caffeinated | deadcat: Exactly. |
| 04:41.24 | EranJ | itunes? |
| 04:41.27 | deadcat | EranJ: for the menu (= |
| 04:41.33 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Stfu, Mac is good. |
| 04:41.41 | EranJ | for?? |
| 04:41.42 | Caffeinated | Debian runs really nice on my Mac Mini. |
| 04:41.47 | deadcat | Caffeinated: ya. and i cant stand those morons try their best to make it look like a mac when it looks like shit |
| 04:42.08 | Caffeinated | Mac Mini is good for Debian Linux. I don't like Mac OS X as well. |
| 04:42.08 | deadcat | Caffeinated: debian runs fine on ppc (= |
| 04:42.37 | EranJ | how do install it on ppc? |
| 04:42.43 | deadcat | Caffeinated: my camera works better on ppc than x86 |
| 04:42.51 | deadcat | EranJ: how do you install it on x86? |
| 04:43.00 | EranJ | with a boot cd |
| 04:43.03 | Caffeinated | Mac is good if you want an affordable machine with good design. |
| 04:43.04 | deadcat | EranJ: ok then |
| 04:43.07 | EranJ | wait. do u mean powerpc? |
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| 04:43.15 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Witha boot CD |
| 04:43.27 | EranJ | I meant pocketpc lol |
| 04:43.37 | deadcat | Caffeinated: did you try branden's install? no media? |
| 04:43.43 | deadcat | !ppx |
| 04:43.44 | deadcat | !ppc |
| 04:43.44 | dpkg | from memory, ppc is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc |
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| 04:43.57 | Caffeinated | deadcat: No, I burned an ISO. |
| 04:44.10 | EranJ | I know about powerpc. but it can run on pocket,isn't it? |
| 04:44.11 | deadcat | Caffeinated: ah. d-i? |
| 04:44.27 | Caffeinated | deadcat: Yeah. |
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| 04:44.42 | deadcat | Caffeinated: partition is easy? |
| 04:44.55 | EranJ | aren't powerpc only for corprations? |
| 04:44.56 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Why won't you buy a Mac? Alot of times Macs are a better value than PCs. |
| 04:45.03 | deadcat | EranJ: are you stupid? |
| 04:45.07 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Are you a troll? |
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| 04:45.32 | EranJ | I like to choose my hardware alone |
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| 04:45.45 | punsad | Caffeinated: How do you suppose macs are better value than PCs? |
| 04:45.48 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Yes, PowerPC is only for corporations, because only corporations are allowed to buy from IBM or Motorola. |
| 04:46.05 | deadcat | HAHAA |
| 04:46.06 | Caffeinated | punsad: I don't, but they are equivelent at least. |
| 04:46.15 | EranJ | btw what's the cost? |
| 04:46.29 | deadcat | EranJ: $300k |
| 04:46.38 | EranJ | omg!!! |
| 04:46.40 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: It works... Weeeee |
| 04:46.47 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: what works? |
| 04:46.52 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: --suspend |
| 04:46.54 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Pricing information is only available to corporations because PowerPC / Macs are only for corporate use. |
| 04:46.57 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: DAMN (= |
| 04:47.00 | TwistedLappy | amp --suspend |
| 04:47.05 | TwistedLappy | *apm |
| 04:47.07 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: sleep over night see if it still up (= |
| 04:47.16 | Caffeinated | EranJ: I am a corporation, that is why I have a PowerPC Mac Mini. |
| 04:47.20 | deadcat | sync it few times before sleeping tonight |
| 04:47.25 | TwistedLappy | Wait... am I suppose to --suspend or --standby ? |
| 04:47.27 | EranJ | what's their use? holding up a 3,000 empolyes company? |
| 04:47.34 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: suspend i think |
| 04:47.35 | Caffeinated | TwistedLappy: --suspend |
| 04:47.39 | punsad | Caffeinated: so how do you like ur mac mini? |
| 04:47.43 | TwistedLappy | dope.. ;)_ |
| 04:47.51 | punsad | Caffeinateed: sounds like you must like it a lot |
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| 04:48.08 | deadcat | Caffeinated: too bad it cant do dual mon can it? |
| 04:48.08 | TwistedLappy | Caffeinated: so how do I do the thing you were talking about?" connecting it to power button? |
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| 04:48.39 | EranJ | what do mean powerpc mac mini? can you have an other proccessor? |
| 04:48.39 | Caffeinated | punsad: Quite well, yes. It runs Debian and all the hardware that I need works (inlcuding sound). It is small too, which is very handy. |
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| 04:48.39 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Yes. |
| 04:48.40 | punsad | Caffeinated: tell me you did not install linux on it. If I had the cash for a Mac (even for a mini).. I'd leave OSX or whatever it is on there |
| 04:48.48 | EranJ | which is? |
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| 04:48.58 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Apple also sells Mac Minis with z80 processors running at 8 MHz. |
| 04:49.01 | deadcat | punsad: osx is slow dude. even on fast machine. |
| 04:49.24 | EranJ | 8 mhz? |
| 04:49.28 | Caffeinated | punsad: I don't like Mac OS X, I tried it. If I ever need it there is Mac on Linux. |
| 04:49.33 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Yeah. |
| 04:49.34 | deadcat | punsad: the first thing i did when i got the ibook was play with the expose thing for like 3 min. then installed linux. |
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| 04:49.59 | punsad | deadcat: interesting |
| 04:50.14 | EranJ | 8 mhz was 15 years ago,wasn't it? |
| 04:50.23 | deadcat | punsad: ya. pressing those f9-f12 button got me high for few min. and thats it |
| 04:50.32 | deadcat | EranJ: nah. 1997 |
| 04:50.38 | jariep1_ | can somebody tell me if I can run sshd on a dialup connection with a dynamic IP |
| 04:50.47 | EranJ | some1 is joking |
| 04:50.49 | deadcat | jariep1_: yes |
| 04:50.51 | pipeline | jagerman: Sure, why not? |
| 04:51.08 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Yeah, but like you said, PowerPC is only for corporations. So Apple could sell to end users, they needed to use another CPU. z80 is enough for an end user. |
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| 04:51.17 | deadcat | Caffeinated: got pic of your thing? |
| 04:51.21 | EranJ | why do u hate mac os x that much? |
| 04:51.26 | pipeline | Caffeinated, punsad : You would have to be a grade 'A' rub to NOT install Linux on a Mac. OSX is a real pain in the ass. |
| 04:51.39 | pipeline | Caffeinated, punsad : I'd rather deal with Windows. |
| 04:51.48 | deadcat | EranJ: we dont hate it. we just dont use it |
| 04:52.05 | EranJ | but the other macs are like more than 1 ghz |
| 04:52.10 | Caffeinated | Mac OS X is okay, but I prefer Debian for my workstation. |
| 04:52.17 | deathdellic | windows has lots of cool games but it rusts too fast |
| 04:52.19 | pipeline | deadcat, EranJ : Nah, I definitely hate it. As Debian has a very good MacPPC port, it's a good outlet for hatred. |
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| 04:52.31 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Those Macs are only for corporations because they are PowerPC. |
| 04:52.31 | deadcat | pipeline: hahah. |
| 04:52.40 | deadcat | Caffeinated: pictures? |
| 04:52.54 | deadcat | i want a mac mini too. for server |
| 04:52.55 | Caffeinated | deadcat: Pictures of Debian on my Mac Mini? |
| 04:52.55 | punsad | Alleria: You know what I use computers for? ssh sessions and web browsing. I can do this on *any* platform. I'm OS agnostic |
| 04:52.58 | pipeline | deadcat: You can't deny the appeal. A decent OS for your Macintosh. That's something most folks haven't had in a very, very long itme |
| 04:52.59 | deadcat | Caffeinated: ya |
| 04:53.09 | punsad | that was addressed to all, not Alleria |
| 04:53.10 | Caffeinated | deadcat: Sorry, I dont ahve them. |
| 04:53.11 | nomed^ | isn't OSX based on freebsd kernel? |
| 04:53.12 | EranJ | u must have a ppc linux distr. or a "regular" one can work? |
| 04:53.12 | deadcat | pipeline: hahaha |
| 04:53.13 | Caffeinated | You can have my uname -a |
| 04:53.20 | deadcat | nomed^: ya. |
| 04:53.22 | Caffeinated | NetBSD Gateway. 2.0.2 NetBSD 2.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Wed Mar 23 08:53:42 UTC 2005 jmc@faith.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-2-0-2-RELEASE/i386/200503220140Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-2-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 |
| 04:53.31 | ethics | punsad: i have a c64,and a amiga you can setup ssh for me 8).... |
| 04:53.31 | Caffeinated | Err, wait, that is my server. |
| 04:53.34 | nomed^ | so is not that bad .. :P |
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| 04:53.44 | nomed^ | also linus has a mac ... now |
| 04:53.48 | Caffeinated | deadcat: Linux MacMini 2.6.11.8 #1 Sun May 8 19:19:56 CEST 2005 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 04:53.50 | punsad | ethics: sounds like fun |
| 04:53.54 | deadcat | Caffeinated: picture worth a thousand word (= |
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| 04:54.16 | Caffeinated | deadcat: Sorry, I don't have any, I am too lazy. :) |
| 04:54.20 | deadcat | hehe |
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| 04:54.30 | ethics | punsad: i have wired so many things around the c64......i think linux can run on amiga or used to on some version |
| 04:54.47 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Actually, there are Macs with 1 Ghz z80 CPUs. |
| 04:54.59 | pipeline | ethics: Linux requires an MMU, so only runs on certain amigas. |
| 04:55.00 | EranJ | so why did u say 8 mhz? |
| 04:55.01 | deathdellic | i had linux running on a mac 550 |
| 04:55.07 | deathdellic | laptop |
| 04:55.10 | pipeline | Ether_Man: Even then, the 68k port of Linux sucks ass. You would be better off running NetBSD. |
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| 04:55.18 | deathdellic | it was like 33mhz |
| 04:55.25 | deadcat | Caffeinated: do you sleep your mac mini? |
| 04:55.32 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Like the G4 Cube. The z80 CPU has a built-in soup warmer. |
| 04:55.51 | jim | 'with' |
| 04:56.02 | Caffeinated | deadcat: No, when I am not using it, I just leave it with the screen turned off. |
| 04:56.09 | deadcat | o |
| 04:56.15 | EranJ | i'm still with blackbox/xfce/icewm dilemma,last words? |
| 04:56.16 | deadcat | Caffeinated: i guess. since you dont hear shit (= |
| 04:56.29 | jim | EranJ: try em all :) |
| 04:56.36 | EranJ | hehe |
| 04:56.37 | jim | see what you think |
| 04:56.40 | deadcat | Caffeinated: atleast give me a screenshot hehe |
| 04:56.44 | EranJ | I had flux |
| 04:56.53 | EranJ | wait,it's not in the list |
| 04:56.53 | jim | there's only 3 in that list, it's easy to do that |
| 04:57.08 | Caffeinated | deadcat: Well, I wouldn't really care if it had 20 fans. My server has 20 fans. I just blast music over the sound of the fans. |
| 04:57.25 | deadcat | damn... |
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| 04:57.28 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Tabbed Widnow Manager is the best, you should try it. |
| 04:57.52 | Caffeinated | Right now I am playing the Wtar Wars Darth Vader Imperial March theme. :) |
| 04:57.55 | pipeline | Caffeinated, EranJ : TWM sucks. VTWM is where it's at. |
| 04:58.10 | deadcat | Caffeinated: hahaha. |
| 04:58.18 | deadcat | Caffeinated: screenshot us please |
| 04:58.40 | Caffeinated | deadcat: Actually, I am using icewm right now. |
| 04:58.52 | Caffeinated | I can't really find a window manager I like. |
| 04:58.54 | EranJ | http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/graphics/vtwm-sheol.png |
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| 04:59.22 | EranJ | looks outdated |
| 04:59.24 | Caffeinated | Icewm and fluxbox are probably the only I like. |
| 04:59.31 | deadcat | Caffeinated: ya. so screenshot us |
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| 04:59.48 | Caffeinated | deadcat: Okay, fine. |
| 04:59.54 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 05:00.18 | EranJ | can u tell me the name of what's in the picture in the URL? |
| 05:00.36 | deadcat | EranJ: just guess |
| 05:00.38 | gravity | twm |
| 05:00.42 | EranJ | what's the name of the thing in the right: http://bb.lnix.net/screenshots/shot-hagenisse.png |
| 05:00.49 | deadcat | icewm |
| 05:00.52 | EranJ | the thing with tux in the bottom |
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| 05:01.06 | deadcat | EranJ: root-tail |
| 05:01.08 | gravity | No way, Ice looks preety decent overall |
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| 05:01.17 | mops | how can I load a custom kernel module on startup? |
| 05:01.18 | EranJ | I think that too |
| 05:01.23 | Caffeinated | EranJ: Yes, it is oudated. To be up to date, a window manager needs to immitate the aesthetically appealing features of the latest iteration of Mac OS. |
| 05:01.26 | deadcat | EranJ: you mean left |
| 05:01.30 | mops | but I want to do this everytime I boot, not only once |
| 05:01.40 | EranJ | what's this root-tail for? |
| 05:01.48 | ticktoc | http://localhost:631 does not connect to cups printer utility.... Was able to use KDE to set up printer and Openoffice uses that same printer.. but stilll not recognized by all other applications... Any help? |
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| 05:02.05 | EranJ | no, I meant right, this thing with tux |
| 05:02.13 | hikenboot | greetings...I have reinstalled my system after a low level reformat of my drive due to errors. Xwindows is running but the maximum resolution is 800X600 how can I change this without too much risk of screwing it up? should I just edit the config files or should I do an apt-get install xserver-xfree86 followed by a debconf or perhaps a dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xfee86? Thanks for your help! |
| 05:02.24 | deadcat | mops: ya. edit you r bootloader config file |
| 05:02.25 | EranJ | tux with a green background |
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| 05:03.05 | deadcat | oh no. under ssh attack again )= |
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| 05:03.58 | EranJ | does root-tail shows cpu usage and stuff? I want to make sure if I got it right |
| 05:04.18 | deadcat | EranJ: no. you mean gkrellm right? root-tail is that text thing on the top left |
| 05:04.24 | deadcat | Caffeinated: lazy bastard. |
| 05:04.28 | ethics | hikenboot, you prolly should dpkg-reconfigure |
| 05:04.35 | mcquaid | hello, i want to make debs instead of compiling software for myself, i'm looking at the maintainers guide and it's somewhat daunting |
| 05:05.02 | EranJ | don't know the name,just that it's the thing in the most right in this picture http://bb.lnix.net/screenshots/shot-hagenisse.png |
| 05:05.04 | deadcat | mcquaid: make deb and compiling? |
| 05:05.04 | Caffeinated | hikenboot: /etc/XF86Config-4 |
| 05:05.06 | gravity | mcquaid: It's not really so bad. It takes a bit of practice to understand it |
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| 05:05.18 | Caffeinated | hikenboot: Don't worry about messing up. |
| 05:05.21 | gravity | mcquaid: But fundamentally, what's going on is pretty simple |
| 05:05.21 | mcquaid | is there an abbreviated guide or something if it's basic stuff that will install with ./configure make make install without issue |
| 05:05.28 | gravity | EranJ: That's gkrellm |
| 05:05.32 | EranJ | gr8 |
| 05:05.42 | gravity | With what looks like wmdiscotux inside |
| 05:05.46 | Caffeinated | hikenboot: Anything can be fixed. You can even fix a corrupted kernel image. |
| 05:05.48 | deadcat | mcquaid: apt-get install checkinstall. cd source; ./configure && make && checkinstall |
| 05:05.51 | EranJ | is it built in linux or should be downloaded? |
| 05:06.01 | mcquaid | ya i've had issues with checkinstall |
| 05:06.11 | gravity | EranJ: Downloaded. Very little is built in to linux |
| 05:06.15 | deadcat | mcquaid: thats all i know. (= |
| 05:06.36 | hikenboot | hmmm conflicting responses...I can add a non-default resolution entry in XF86Config-4 for my higher resolution that I can then try out from xwindows desktop...yes? |
| 05:07.00 | Caffeinated | gravity: Yeah, Linux doesn't even come with a boot loader. It's just a kernel. |
| 05:07.03 | gravity | hikenboot: Why not? |
| 05:07.13 | EranJ | 10q |
| 05:07.13 | hikenboot | ok thats what i thought |
| 05:07.21 | hikenboot | thanks guys...here goes nothing |
| 05:07.26 | Caffeinated | hikenboot: Sure... |
| 05:07.39 | deadcat | hikenboot: let us know when it fails (= |
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| 05:08.32 | jair | Guerin, I am hosting a site using the dynamic updater no-ip.com |
| 05:08.33 | panthera | hblaschka: morgen :) |
| 05:08.38 | Caffeinated | hikenboot: And in case you really screw up, your friend is Alt-SysReq-{S, U, B} (Sync disks, unmount disks, reboot) |
| 05:08.44 | jair | the address I have is chamo.no-ip.com |
| 05:08.50 | gravity | EranJ: The sooner you start to think of Linux... any version of it, as a collection of software that works together in pieces which can be replaced as you desire, you'll start understanding things |
| 05:09.12 | jair | Guerin, and when the people type www.chamo.no-ip.com the page did not display? |
| 05:09.29 | jair | Guerin, when they type chamo.no-ip.com then it works |
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| 05:09.48 | jair | I have to do some kind of edition on the apache server? |
| 05:09.55 | jair | to make the www works? |
| 05:10.01 | EranJ | got ya |
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| 05:10.19 | deadcat | jair: ping that host, make sure its your ip |
| 05:10.59 | EranJ | how do I check if my 'locales' is fine? |
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| 05:11.13 | Caffeinated | EranJ: First though you need to be less gullible or you are going to end up typing rm -rf / as root and having non functional Debian system, and assume Linux is at fault and go back to yours Windows with your favourite skinning software. |
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| 05:11.41 | KyKo | rm -rf / = pwnt |
| 05:12.12 | herbi_ | hi |
| 05:12.18 | herbi_ | can you add a group to another group in /etc/group? |
| 05:12.21 | herbi_ | eg |
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| 05:12.43 | herbi_ | can i add everyone in "cdrom" to "audio" |
| 05:12.47 | herbi_ | or do i have to do it one by one |
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| 05:13.02 | bob2 | you could automate it |
| 05:13.07 | Hamled | anyone have an opinion on which RADIUS server package is the best? |
| 05:13.12 | herbi_ | is that a nice way of saying one by one? :P |
| 05:13.16 | bob2 | but when you new people get added to audio, you'll need to add them to cdrom manually |
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| 05:13.45 | herbi_ | itd be nice if you could do that |
| 05:13.47 | hikenboot | ok I see what the debian installer did it did not use the nvidia video card driver like I specified...which means drastic alteration of the config not just the line Device "Generic Video Card" to Device "nv"...yes? |
| 05:14.12 | bob2 | er |
| 05:14.18 | bob2 | you don't touch the Device line |
| 05:14.21 | bob2 | you touche the Driver one |
| 05:14.25 | Caffeinated | herbi_: By automate, I think bob2 means write a little shell script. :) |
| 05:14.29 | KyKo | You can do like dpkg reconfigure xfree so and so or something like that. |
| 05:14.42 | Caffeinated | KyKo: Right |
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| 05:14.55 | herbi_ | Caffeinated: which means the answer to my question is no :P |
| 05:15.02 | Caffeinated | dpkg reconfigure xsystem-xfree86 if memory serves. |
| 05:15.12 | deadcat | !drxx |
| 05:15.12 | dpkg | i guess drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
| 05:15.29 | KyKo | Yeah. |
| 05:15.42 | KyKo | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 05:15.47 | KyKo | I can never remember that. |
| 05:15.48 | hikenboot | even better I understand nvidia has their own advanced driver which takes advantage of the ram...is that right..anyone know? |
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| 05:16.32 | Caffeinated | It took alot of manual XF86Config-4 editing before I discovered I needed a new monitor. |
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| 05:16.56 | KyKo | Whaaaaat |
| 05:17.05 | hikenboot | maybe your configs are as bad as mine then caffeinated...lol |
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| 05:17.37 | Caffeinated | Well, I solved the problem by replacing the monitor. :) |
| 05:17.47 | KyKo | Pricey solution my boy. |
| 05:17.55 | hikenboot | question is was it broken before the config...lol |
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| 05:18.08 | samuel | sup all |
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| 05:18.17 | samuel | can you do a netinstall on debian sid? |
| 05:18.32 | Caffeinated | hikenboot: It had PSU problems. |
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| 05:19.11 | KyKo | I thought you could only do netinstall on sid. |
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| 05:19.27 | samuel | KyKo, really? |
| 05:19.33 | KyKo | Let me see. |
| 05:19.44 | samuel | do you need a running OS for that? |
| 05:19.59 | KyKo | To install Sid? |
| 05:20.08 | deadcat | samuel: yes you can. just type expert26 at the bootprompt |
| 05:20.13 | Hamled|Erp | anyone have an opinion on which RADIUS server package is the best? |
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| 05:21.23 | nathan_ | #flood i am not getting sound, i am using a audigy 2 sound card |
| 05:21.28 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Can desktops stadby? |
| 05:21.32 | TwistedEmotions | *standby |
| 05:21.33 | samuel | deadcat, do i use the testing netinstall image? |
| 05:21.40 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i think so. |
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| 05:21.52 | deadcat | samuel: ya. type expert26 |
| 05:21.59 | KyKo | Yeah testing = sid |
| 05:22.07 | KyKo | http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/ |
| 05:22.11 | samuel | ooooh |
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| 05:22.13 | KyKo | There's a link to a dl site. |
| 05:22.20 | samuel | i meant unstable then, sorry |
| 05:22.32 | samuel | is there any way to skip straight to unstable? |
| 05:22.35 | KyKo | Oh wait maybe I am a tard. |
| 05:22.44 | KyKo | I am not smart right now. |
| 05:22.45 | deadcat | samuel: ya. type expert26 |
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| 05:22.56 | KyKo | sid = unstable testing = sarge |
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| 05:22.59 | samuel | deadcat, fair enough, thanks |
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| 05:25.35 | ethics | nathan: what kernel you on? |
| 05:25.45 | deadcat | 2.6 |
| 05:26.22 | deadcat | why you want to know? |
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| 05:28.27 | nathan_ | 2.6.686 |
| 05:28.39 | jariep1_ | is the ssh on debian openssh? |
| 05:29.02 | deadcat | ya |
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| 05:29.14 | ethics | nathan ran alsaconf? |
| 05:29.39 | nathan_ | i might have |
| 05:29.42 | nathan_ | ill run it again |
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| 05:30.39 | nathan_ | where it it? |
| 05:30.47 | ethics | nathan run as root |
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| 05:31.58 | deadcat | tazle: calm down |
| 05:32.03 | deadcat | Tabitha: calm down. |
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| 05:32.39 | nathan_ | my speakers blipped but i still dont get sound |
| 05:32.49 | ethics | alsaconf found the card? |
| 05:32.56 | nathan_ | it found it |
| 05:32.59 | cleit0n | ae eu to tentando compilar um lance aqui e no ./configure diz ser necessario algo tipo libstd++-dev , mais no apt não tem, alguem sabe como é isso |
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| 05:33.11 | ethics | load a alsamixer..unmute and volumes up |
| 05:33.21 | gravity | !es |
| 05:33.22 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 05:33.33 | ethics | defaults have muted as default alot of the time.... |
| 05:33.34 | deadcat | gravity: is that spanish? |
| 05:33.38 | ticktoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.51 | ticktoc | any takers on this one? LOL.. |
| 05:33.52 | gravity | deadcat: I think so, although it could be portuguese |
| 05:34.14 | deadcat | gravity: not french? |
| 05:34.36 | gravity | Don't think so |
| 05:34.42 | cleit0n | hi i install libstd++-dev? |
| 05:34.50 | deadcat | cleit0n: what lang is that? |
| 05:34.53 | ethics | ticktoc : what OS? |
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| 05:35.09 | cleit0n | deadcat: how i install libstd++-dev? |
| 05:35.12 | ticktoc | debian (mepis) |
| 05:35.24 | deadcat | cleit0n: apt-get install libstd++-dev. now what lang was that? |
| 05:35.29 | bob2 | ticktoc: #mepis |
| 05:35.29 | deadcat | ticktoc: #mepis |
| 05:35.34 | bob2 | ticktoc: it is not debian |
| 05:35.36 | hikenboot | hello guys..and thanks the dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xfree86 worked like a charm |
| 05:35.37 | deadcat | please dont say debian (mepis) |
| 05:35.44 | cleit0n | deadcat: no, apt dont found |
| 05:35.45 | bob2 | you can tell, because it's called "mepis", not "debian" |
| 05:35.46 | ticktoc | no help there.. |
| 05:35.49 | nathan_ | how do i turn mute off |
| 05:35.55 | bob2 | nathan_: m in alsamixer |
| 05:35.57 | deadcat | cleit0n: what language were you using ealiser? |
| 05:36.02 | bob2 | ticktoc: then wait, or try on their mailing list |
| 05:36.05 | ticktoc | excuse me? it's as much debian as knoppix.. |
| 05:36.13 | deadcat | ticktoc: hell no |
| 05:36.15 | ethics | which isnt debian |
| 05:36.16 | cleit0n | deadcat: portuguese... |
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| 05:36.20 | deadcat | cleit0n: thanks. |
| 05:36.26 | deadcat | gravity: nice (=. i was way off |
| 05:36.28 | ticktoc | or the other debian knockoffs.. |
| 05:36.28 | gravity | ticktoc: Neither is Debian |
| 05:36.32 | nathan_ | still not getting sound |
| 05:36.49 | gravity | ticktoc: Knoppix nor mepis nor any other "based on Debian" is Debian |
| 05:37.01 | ethics | nathan_ does xmms or something error or just play? |
| 05:37.13 | deadcat | ticktoc: is crack the same as weed? they both "drug" |
| 05:37.18 | gravity | !br |
| 05:37.18 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 05:37.23 | gravity | cleit0n: ^ |
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| 05:37.30 | nathan_ | i dont know what you meen |
| 05:37.44 | deadcat | ticktoc: then knock yourself off to #mepis |
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| 05:38.02 | ethics | nathan_ how are you testing? |
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| 05:38.30 | nathan_ | i have a song on repeat using totem |
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| 05:38.43 | ethics | is totem using alsa as default? |
| 05:38.45 | deadcat | nathan_: maybe your card cant handle 2 inputs |
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| 05:39.19 | ethics | deadcat: audigy2....dont know much about it but alsaconf found it ...soudns not muted apparently |
| 05:39.40 | deadcat | ethics: he said totom is working right? |
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| 05:40.02 | ethics | deadcat, yeah...i dont use totem much is alsa the default.. |
| 05:40.03 | nathan_ | it is playing the song |
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| 05:40.19 | deadcat | nathan_: and you want to play something else as well right? |
| 05:40.24 | nathan_ | but i get no sound and i cant find any setting to change it to alsa |
| 05:40.29 | nathan_ | ya |
| 05:40.43 | ethics | deadcat: no sound out of anything so far....but card looks found etc |
| 05:40.45 | deadcat | nathan_: maybe your card is crappy and just cant take more than 1 input |
| 05:40.58 | spdf | deadcat, I think he's saying that there's no sound at all.. |
| 05:41.06 | deadcat | spdf: oh. |
| 05:41.09 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:41.14 | nathan_ | no sound what so ever |
| 05:41.18 | deadcat | spdf: wasnt paying attention. |
| 05:41.23 | ethics | nathan_ what mixer did you check for muted on? |
| 05:41.24 | Coke | nathan_: does the sound card work at all? |
| 05:41.30 | deadcat | nathan_: kill totem. cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp and see whats going on |
| 05:41.40 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Do you usea arouter? |
| 05:41.41 | ethics | Coke: its detected in alsaconf...i think its still muted |
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| 05:41.53 | nathan_ | i use a router |
| 05:41.54 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. dlink 604. want the passwd? (= |
| 05:41.57 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: *Do you use a router? |
| 05:42.18 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: no I want your samba file.. I want to share files between desktop and lappy. |
| 05:42.19 | nathan_ | i use the sound card in windows all the time |
| 05:42.21 | spdf | nathan_, go to the command line and run alsamixer, make sure to turn all of the output sound up.. |
| 05:42.24 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i have a crappy netgear AP though |
| 05:42.36 | Coke | nathan_: I'm not talking about whether or not it works in Windows, does it work under Debian? |
| 05:42.44 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: both linux? i use nfs for that. |
| 05:43.05 | deadcat | nathan_: shit runs on windows. that dont mean shit |
| 05:43.23 | deadcat | nathan_: let me ssh in and take a look? |
| 05:43.38 | nathan_ | fixed it |
| 05:43.41 | deadcat | cool |
| 05:43.43 | nathan_ | destroyed my hearing |
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| 05:43.47 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:43.47 | spdf | nathan_, Was it the volume? |
| 05:43.58 | nathan_ | full on my sterio and mixer |
| 05:44.05 | nathan_ | ya |
| 05:44.16 | ethics | nathan_ grats 8) |
| 05:44.19 | spdf | nathan_, See. Shit works in Linux too.. |
| 05:44.21 | deadcat | nathan_: i think you're just fucking with us |
| 05:44.26 | nathan_ | i did not realize there was more sections when you press tab |
| 05:44.32 | nathan_ | and something was still muted |
| 05:44.36 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: nfs? What is the package called? |
| 05:44.47 | spdf | deadcat, Yeh, he'd better let you ssh in to check :) |
| 05:44.50 | Coke | nathan_: alsa has all main mixers muted on boot by default |
| 05:44.50 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: nfs-kernel-server for server, nfs-common on client |
| 05:45.01 | deadcat | spdf: damn straight. (=. |
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| 05:45.23 | Coke | confusing backwards smileys |
| 05:45.28 | nathan_ | thanks |
| 05:45.38 | deadcat | spdf: i am reliable. ask TwistedEmotions, i only rm -rf on his box 3 times |
| 05:45.38 | sobersabre | hi...i've dicovered that nis passwd is one line longer than shadow. |
| 05:45.40 | ethics | Coke: um thats not really true i dont think..im not sure but i think.......some cards hold the settings some dont i think...muted is default for ones that dont.. |
| 05:45.58 | sobersabre | what's the fastest way to discover which one is it ? |
| 05:46.03 | Coke | ethics: "the card" does not hold the setting. |
| 05:46.07 | deadcat | sobersabre: diff |
| 05:46.11 | sobersabre | ( i am thinking of cut'ting usernames and grep on them.. |
| 05:46.22 | Coke | ethics: some packages contain bootup scripts that save the mixer levels on shutdown/reboot and restores it on boot. |
| 05:46.25 | spdf | deadcat, Just three times? Heck, you're a saint. lol |
| 05:46.26 | sobersabre | deadcat, shadow is completely diff'erent from passwd... |
| 05:46.38 | deadcat | spdf: told you. i am reliable. (= |
| 05:46.45 | deadcat | sobersabre: then cut shaddow |
| 05:47.01 | spdf | ethics, alsa restores the volume settings on boot.. |
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| 05:47.42 | ethics | ahh IC IC....i thought it was a card based thing like bttv/ivtv differences |
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| 05:48.32 | Overand_ | I want to install 'lame' (commandline)... |
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| 05:48.44 | deadcat | !tell Overand_ about marillat |
| 05:49.12 | Overand_ | ah right |
| 05:49.17 | Overand_ | mp3 enc patent issues |
| 05:49.21 | Overand_ | heck, why don't i use use ogg vorbis? |
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| 05:49.36 | spdf | Overand_, Great idea.. |
| 05:49.40 | Overand_ | what package + commandline app should I use for that? |
| 05:49.40 | maher | Overand_: try abcde |
| 05:49.43 | ethics | Overand_, havent been forced to move yet here either... |
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| 05:50.05 | Lafitte- | what program best to use for rar files ? |
| 05:50.11 | ethics | rar |
| 05:50.13 | Overand_ | maher: is that a gui app? i need commandline, and i don't really need a frontend |
| 05:50.17 | Lafitte- | oh hehe ok |
| 05:50.18 | sobersabre | deadcat, nice discovery, in spite they differ in length only 1 line, they differ in the contents much more! |
| 05:50.28 | maher | Overand_: it's command line |
| 05:50.35 | deadcat | sobersabre: cool. |
| 05:50.40 | amphi | Overand_: ogg123 & oggenc :) |
| 05:50.43 | ethics | Lafitte-, to create i think its nonfree but extraction i think is main |
| 05:50.49 | deadcat | Overand_: if you dont know what hte hell lame is for. dont install it. |
| 05:50.54 | sobersabre | deadcat, i guess this is why i am here instead the previous admin.... |
| 05:51.13 | deadcat | sobersabre: good for youa (=. now tip me heheh |
| 05:51.36 | sobersabre | deadcat, i think i miss the idiom "tip me".... |
| 05:51.49 | sobersabre | sorry, not native en. speaker. |
| 05:51.52 | deadcat | sobersabre: where you work? |
| 05:51.57 | Lafitte- | ethics, you know of a way to go back and tell debian to make this a desktop install ? i chose manual package and it left out so many things |
| 05:52.16 | sobersabre | in a uni. |
| 05:52.21 | spdf | !dict tip |
| 05:52.23 | dpkg | Dictionary 'tip' (2 of 25): . Tip \Tip\, n. [Akin to D. & Dan. tip, LG. & Sw. tipp, G. zipfel, and probably to E. tap a plug, a pipe.] 1. The point or extremity of anything; a pointed or somewhat sharply rounded end; the end; as, the tip of the finger; the tip of a spear. ;; . Tip \Tip\, n. [See Tip to strike slightly, and cf. Tap a slight blow.] 1. A light touch or blow; a tap.. |
| 05:52.26 | deadcat | sobersabre: damn. i was the LAST admin )= |
| 05:52.50 | sobersabre | deadcat, i know the last admin. he's a "nice guy" |
| 05:52.56 | deadcat | doh (= |
| 05:52.58 | ethics | Lafitte-, base-config as root? or maybee tasksel as root... |
| 05:52.59 | valdyn | Lafitte-: run 'tasksel' |
| 05:53.09 | deadcat | sobersabre: cant confuse you then. |
| 05:53.27 | sobersabre | deadcat, do you also feel a dismay when charaterized as "a nice guy" ? |
| 05:53.33 | Lafitte- | bam on the money thats it guys heh e |
| 05:53.55 | deadcat | sobersabre: the hell you talking about? |
| 05:54.09 | Lafitte- | tasksel was THE one thanks guys |
| 05:54.19 | deadcat | Lafitte-: tasksel sucks. |
| 05:54.40 | Lafitte- | yeah it wants to remove exim4 ??? |
| 05:54.43 | Lafitte- | thats not good |
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| 05:55.08 | sobersabre | it's like... Q: "what does he do?" A: "ah... he's a nice guy" ... like when you have nothing else to say... and you don't want to express opinion. |
| 05:55.31 | deadcat | sobersabre: ah. i know what you mean now. |
| 05:55.32 | sobersabre | deadcat, got me intention ? |
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| 05:56.00 | ethics | Laffitte: would just grabbing a WM using aptitude solve what you need? |
| 05:56.17 | deadcat | sobersabre: ya i know arney, nice guy, never talk much.... like that right? (= |
| 05:56.57 | sobersabre | right... "i don't know how is he, what's he good at... but... ah... mmmm....nice guy" lol |
| 05:57.18 | deadcat | hahah |
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| 05:58.26 | ethics | ahh well home time for meh...... |
| 05:59.16 | michal_ | anyone know how clamav compares to mcafee ? trying to choose one for a mail server. neither costs us anything so I'm more interested in performance and how quickly it can catch new viruses |
| 05:59.33 | nathan_ | does anyone know where i can get encryption to watch dvd movies |
| 05:59.51 | deadcat | !tell nathan_ about marillat |
| 05:59.56 | sobersabre | is there a way to coexist pine with evolution ? |
| 06:00.11 | sobersabre | or better mutt with evolution |
| 06:00.11 | deadcat | sobersabre: no. |
| 06:00.12 | jm_ | you need to decrypt, not encrypt them ;) |
| 06:00.12 | sobersabre | hmm.. |
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| 06:00.25 | deadcat | jm_: maybe he wants to encrypt (= |
| 06:00.26 | sobersabre | mutt always deletes the emails from /var/mail/bla |
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| 06:00.39 | deadcat | sobersabre: bullshit |
| 06:00.40 | nathan_ | i want to watch |
| 06:00.40 | sobersabre | then evo doesn't see them... i wonder why... :) |
| 06:00.41 | cleit0n | hi, anyone use zope and zimporter and help me? |
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| 06:00.56 | jm_ | sobersabre: no it doesn't, it asks you if you want it to move them to ~/foo |
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| 06:01.11 | sobersabre | jm_, who is "it" ? |
| 06:01.22 | sobersabre | mutt! |
| 06:01.25 | sobersabre | right |
| 06:01.25 | jm_ | sobersabre: it, as in mutt |
| 06:01.26 | sobersabre | ! |
| 06:01.37 | jm_ | and there's a setting that controls this behaviour |
| 06:01.47 | sobersabre | jm_, in muttrc ? |
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| 06:02.01 | deadcat | sobersabre: i think you set mutt to move the read emails to ~/Mail, ~/Maildir, or ~/mbox or something |
| 06:02.06 | jm_ | sobersabre: yes, that's one possibility |
| 06:02.11 | valdyn | !tell nathan_ about marillat |
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| 06:02.23 | danko123456 | !hi |
| 06:02.23 | dpkg | hello, danko123456 |
| 06:02.28 | danko123456 | sup, man... |
| 06:02.30 | sobersabre | jm_, i think i have confused the mutt with pine. |
| 06:02.37 | deadcat | danko123456: shutup |
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| 06:03.06 | sobersabre | jm_, is there a fast way to send the emails from inbox in pine somewhere ? |
| 06:03.21 | sobersabre | ( except perl script that will cut it to messages ") |
| 06:03.54 | jm_ | sobersabre: you want to move them from pine's inbox to some other mailbox/folder? |
| 06:04.02 | sobersabre | jm_, yes |
| 06:04.23 | jm_ | sobersabre: OK, try mutt -f /path/to/pines/inbox, then mark them all and move them wherever you want |
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| 06:04.41 | danko123456 | deadcat, as you see, that was not needed, I was gonna be silent anyhow... |
| 06:04.46 | sobersabre | jm_, even into /var/mail ? |
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| 06:04.57 | danko123456 | hey, I fell for another troll:) |
| 06:05.01 | jm_ | sobersabre: sure, that's often achieved by using ! in mutt |
| 06:05.03 | deadcat | danko123456: its better for the channel when you shutup (= |
| 06:05.15 | sobersabre | jm_, THANKS! |
| 06:05.50 | deadcat | sobersabre: just alias pine=mutt (= |
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| 06:06.21 | sobersabre | deadcat, i have an alias "p" for pine... and a finger got used ( before i fetched this email with evo ) |
| 06:06.29 | sobersabre | then they installed mutt |
| 06:06.41 | sobersabre | now i have this transition disorder... |
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| 06:18.09 | Lafitte- | what gui util shouldi install for rar files ? |
| 06:19.22 | technos | I am gonna be soooo pissed if I forgot my transciever. |
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| 06:20.35 | deadcat | Lafitte-: none |
| 06:20.48 | Lafitte- | dead ? |
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| 06:21.12 | Lafitte- | in Ubuntu i was able to clikc a rar file and choose extract and it would get busy |
| 06:21.12 | deadcat | none |
| 06:21.27 | deadcat | Lafitte-: you on ubuntu or debian? |
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| 06:21.33 | Lafitte- | debian now |
| 06:21.40 | Lafitte- | was Ubuntu |
| 06:21.52 | deadcat | no gui for rar. |
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| 06:22.19 | sobersabre | jm_, hmm... after a pause in the mutt play... how can i select all messages ? |
| 06:22.52 | sobersabre | searched though "?" ( help screen ) and haven't found anything usefull |
| 06:23.03 | valdyn | Lafitte-: that should work in debian, if file-roller, nautilus and unrar-nonfree are installed |
| 06:23.03 | nathan_ | what do i need to get to view dvd movies |
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| 06:23.34 | sobersabre | nathan_, a DVD drive or player |
| 06:23.41 | sobersabre | a monitor / TV set. |
| 06:23.53 | sobersabre | speakers ( if you want to hear the sound ) |
| 06:23.57 | valdyn | nathan_: /msg dpkg marillat and install libdvdcss2 |
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| 06:24.55 | jm_ | sobersabre: T~A<enter> |
| 06:26.11 | valdyn | Lafitte-: that is naturally assuming you want to use gnome ( like ubuntu does ), there's various other desktop environments and archive tools to handle rar files |
| 06:26.29 | Lafitte- | valdyn, i cant seem to get nonfree |
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| 06:26.56 | valdyn | !info unrar-nonfree sarge |
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| 06:27.12 | valdyn | Lafitte-: maybe you have to add 'non-free' to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:27.15 | Lafitte- | i like the way ubuntu worked just some things are hard |
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| 06:27.32 | valdyn | Lafitte-: nm searching how the package is called |
| 06:27.45 | valdyn | !info unrar |
| 06:27.47 | dpkg | unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.2-0.1 (sid), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 216 kB |
| 06:27.59 | valdyn | !info unrar sarge |
| 06:27.59 | nathan_ | it says to add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main to my source list but how do i add to the source list?? |
| 06:28.31 | valdyn | !why is unrar not in testing |
| 06:28.32 | dpkg | unrar is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=unrar |
| 06:28.37 | jm_ | nathan_: you never used an editor in your life? |
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| 06:28.46 | Guerin | nathan_: echo "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list # as root |
| 06:28.49 | dabreegster | nathan_: echo deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main >> /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:28.54 | valdyn | !info rar sarge |
| 06:28.56 | dpkg | rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 419 kB |
| 06:29.08 | valdyn | Lafitte-: install 'rar' |
| 06:29.14 | Lafitte- | i have it |
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| 06:29.20 | Lafitte- | and unrar |
| 06:29.34 | valdyn | Lafitte-: good, so nautilus will open rar files w/ file-roller |
| 06:29.35 | Lafitte- | but i got unrar not unrar-nonfree |
| 06:29.36 | Guerin | if you're opening warez, use unrar-nonfree |
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| 06:29.46 | Lafitte- | but they dont work |
| 06:30.00 | Guerin | stupid qualifier really, since warez is the only thing rar is used for |
| 06:30.07 | Lafitte- | i click rar file and file roller says not supported type |
| 06:30.09 | Guerin | !don't work |
| 06:30.09 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 06:30.25 | Guerin | ok, i was too late there |
| 06:30.30 | sobersabre | jm_, thanks... i've tried then "s" ... but it appended only 1 message i was on. |
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| 06:30.39 | sobersabre | how do i move all of them ?! |
| 06:30.51 | sobersabre | (never had to do this before ) |
| 06:31.15 | jm_ | you didn't tag all of them |
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| 06:31.29 | Lafitte- | Archive type not supported. |
| 06:31.31 | sobersabre | jm_, it is ok, if you tell me where to read about it. i tagged them all: '*' near all of them |
| 06:31.52 | Guerin | Lafitte-: get unrar-nonfree if you really can't live without it |
| 06:32.09 | streuner | hehe |
| 06:32.17 | valdyn | Guerin: rar should handle the same, unrar-nonfree isnt in sarge appearantly |
| 06:32.29 | cwr | are there any issues with upgrading to the latest kernel via apt? |
| 06:32.30 | Lafitte- | not |
| 06:32.34 | streuner | !simple sid backport |
| 06:32.34 | dpkg | simple sid backport is probably 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :) |
| 06:32.37 | cwr | can't seem to su - root anymore |
| 06:32.41 | streuner | done |
| 06:32.56 | streuner | cwr: BTS |
| 06:33.02 | cwr | bts? |
| 06:33.05 | jm_ | sobersabre: T~A<enter> tags all of them, then ;s and it will move them - the problem was that you didn't press ; |
| 06:33.09 | streuner | cwr: /msg dpkg bts |
| 06:33.12 | cwr | ah |
| 06:33.17 | cwr | just saw it in the topic |
| 06:33.19 | cwr | thanks |
| 06:33.31 | sobersabre | jm_, you are correct: i pressed "s". not "s;" |
| 06:33.38 | jm_ | sobersabre: I said ;s, not s; |
| 06:33.51 | sobersabre | hm! |
| 06:33.57 | spdf | Indeed! |
| 06:34.39 | sobersabre | mutt! probably the best beer in the world... definetly the best. |
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| 06:35.24 | spdf | Mutt beer? |
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| 06:36.15 | sobersabre | no. it is a non-sense/ |
| 06:36.18 | alankelon | hello! does anybody can help me on importing content to sourceforge cvs repository? |
| 06:36.33 | alankelon | I don't know why I can't to it |
| 06:36.44 | sobersabre | alankelon, do you have a cvs account on sf ? |
| 06:36.59 | alankelon | sobersabre, yes, I do. |
| 06:37.08 | alankelon | http://sourceforge.net/users/kelon |
| 06:37.10 | sobersabre | alankelon, is it write-enabled ? |
| 06:37.23 | alankelon | I'm the admin of the project, sobersabre |
| 06:37.31 | Guerin | valdyn, Lafitte-- unix cli rar binary is avaulable from the guy's site |
| 06:37.42 | technos | Gah.. /iommu/sbus/espdma@5,8400000/esp@5,880000/sd@4,0... What is wrong with that? |
| 06:37.43 | sobersabre | alankelon, what is the value of your CVSROOT now ? |
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| 06:38.31 | alankelon | sobersabre, I never touched cvs before |
| 06:39.05 | alankelon | sobersabre, I think the CVSROOT is the default |
| 06:39.06 | technos | I forgot a "0", and I am a big dummy head. |
| 06:39.17 | alankelon | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/joaobobo |
| 06:39.40 | alankelon | sobersabre, tha is the url of viewcvs of my project |
| 06:39.46 | nomed^ | alankelon, you need to login .. and set CVSROOT env .. not necessary but better .. |
| 06:40.01 | nomed^ | set and login :P |
| 06:40.44 | alankelon | isn't "cvs -d:ext:kelon@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/joaobobo import -m "Initial import." joaobobo collabore start" sufficient? |
| 06:40.57 | alankelon | nomed^, thx too |
| 06:41.05 | alankelon | sobersabre, any clue, dude? |
| 06:41.41 | nomed^ | you can add to bashrc CVSROOT=ext:kelon@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/joaobobo |
| 06:41.57 | nomed^ | or write it in a shell than cvs login .. |
| 06:42.03 | nomed^ | then |
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| 06:42.41 | Lafitte- | unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) |
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| 06:43.09 | nomed^ | alankelon, http://owen.sj.ca.us/rkowen/howto/cvs.html .. |
| 06:44.17 | boukensya | hey guys.. I was just wondering what a real nice email client ncurses is? not mutt |
| 06:44.35 | alankelon | nomed^, let me try hat |
| 06:44.41 | alankelon | a moment, please, nomed^ |
| 06:44.58 | technos | Mutt kind of is the end all of mail clients. Have you tried elm and pine yet? |
| 06:45.25 | boukensya | tried pine a few years ago, don't know elm |
| 06:45.31 | boukensya | which do you recomend |
| 06:45.36 | jm_ | mutt |
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| 06:45.49 | technos | I used to like pine.. And Elm is the mail reader pine is based on, it's a recursive for Pine Is Not Elm. |
| 06:46.01 | nomed^ | if you want to try something 'new' mutt-ng |
| 06:46.06 | jm_ | actually it's mutt that's based on elm |
| 06:46.25 | boukensya | mutt just seems so primative (look and feel) to me |
| 06:46.27 | nomed^ | mutt next generation .. i love it :P |
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| 06:46.51 | jm_ | look and feel? yes, that's really important, especiall for a terminal based client |
| 06:47.06 | dabreegster | mutt is fine. |
| 06:47.21 | boukensya | yes, like irssi, centericq, etc.. all have a nice look and feel |
| 06:47.43 | dabreegster | Though I still use raw telnet to send mail; I've been too lazy to find the right config string for an smtp server |
| 06:48.14 | jm_ | irssi? it looks like shit with all the crap wasting space |
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| 06:48.26 | dabreegster | boukensya: check out elinks, a web browser. now that's a polished console interface |
| 06:48.36 | boukensya | yeah I use that heaps |
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| 06:49.07 | directhex | dabreegster, microsoft qbasic had a polished console interface! |
| 06:49.08 | dabreegster | jm_: what wasted space? you mean the titlebars? You can turn those off |
| 06:49.11 | colera | so i have installed the wireless-tools package how do i switch to a different wireless network, like i run "iwlist eth0 scan" and i get a bunch of networks how do i connect to a given one? |
| 06:49.12 | ytripppy | anyone heard of a SUN SUNRAY 100 terminal? |
| 06:49.16 | dabreegster | directhex: Hah |
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| 06:49.31 | jm_ | dabreegster: no, and I know that you can change all of it anyway |
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| 06:49.37 | jm_ | ytripppy: yes, many people have |
| 06:49.40 | colera | my last post is a general question posed to the entire panel |
| 06:51.24 | technos | Hahahah. Automatic partitioner is throwing up because I have a 270MB IBM disc in. |
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| 06:52.01 | boukensya | ok, well I am gonna give mutt a real good chance, but before I do I wanna get rid of localhost mail completely. how do I do that? |
| 06:52.10 | boukensya | just completely stop using it |
| 06:52.48 | alankelon | nomed^, can you look at http://channels.debian.net/paste/174? |
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| 06:55.01 | nomed^ | alankelon, why are you using pserver? |
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| 06:55.51 | alankelon | nomed^, it's what sf.net says to anonymous users use |
| 06:55.59 | nomed^ | ahh ok .. |
| 06:56.10 | ytripppy | i just bought a SUN systems, SUNRAY 100 thin client, only has usb and ethernet, built into a monitor. |
| 06:56.16 | tarzeau | morning |
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| 06:56.28 | tarzeau | ytripppy: no cpu? |
| 06:56.32 | technos | ytripppy: Yup. It's a thin client. |
| 06:56.38 | tarzeau | ytripppy: same crap like the old sunrays? |
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| 06:57.07 | ytripppy | it boots, mouse moves, but nothing else, it has a slot for a smart card. 4xUSB on back |
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| 06:57.25 | shiftless | hey guys |
| 06:57.26 | ytripppy | so its useless? |
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| 06:57.30 | alankelon | the interesting is that seems I had an successful import |
| 06:57.39 | technos | ytripppy: Without a server to connect it to, yep! |
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| 06:58.07 | ytripppy | can i create a server? if so whats it called? |
| 06:58.15 | shiftless | is it possible without manually downloading and compiling it, to upgrade to kde 3.3.4 |
| 06:58.21 | shiftless | through the package system somehow? |
| 06:58.40 | ytripppy | it came with cd's, but no cdrom drive.... |
| 06:58.44 | ytripppy | clue |
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| 07:00.06 | technos | ytripppy: I know Sun released Ray server software for Linux, I don't remember what/if they charge for it. |
| 07:00.30 | shiftless | anyone? |
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| 07:00.45 | nomed^ | alankelon, it seems anonymous can checkout that module even if it exists .. maybe you need to enable something for anonymous user |
| 07:00.55 | nomed^ | can't |
| 07:01.02 | bbmj | i just watched the dune 2000 version, it made me throw up a bit in my mouth... |
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| 07:01.32 | dabreegster | Does anybody have any good ideas for improving the general look & feel of the console? I've got a constant statusbar, which is nice, but I'm looking for new ideas such as a transparent background for the console. |
| 07:02.12 | technos | Status bars are so 3270. |
| 07:02.13 | alankelon | the question is that the module isn't imported, nomed^ |
| 07:02.15 | alankelon | :(* |
| 07:02.16 | alankelon | :( |
| 07:02.21 | Phated | dabreegster: Colours! |
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| 07:02.25 | elPepo | hi friends. |
| 07:02.36 | dabreegster | technos: They're neat. I have the current time and song playing |
| 07:02.40 | dabreegster | Phated: I see color. |
| 07:02.46 | Phated | Well, pah, then. |
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| 07:02.57 | nomed^ | alankelon, don't use pserver |
| 07:03.00 | dabreegster | Phated: nice blue bg for my statusbar, with yellow, green, red, white, and cyan fg. |
| 07:03.03 | nomed^ | use ext |
| 07:03.13 | alankelon | nomed^, I'm not using pserver to import |
| 07:03.41 | technos | dabreegster: Why would I want to read what song is playing? I can hear it. :) |
| 07:03.42 | alankelon | and I don't have control about the protocols at sorceforte.net! |
| 07:03.45 | alankelon | = |
| 07:03.48 | alankelon | =) |
| 07:04.35 | nomed^ | with ext it seems to work .. asking for a passwd anyway .. |
| 07:04.35 | dabreegster | technos: I have a lot. It's a nice feature. But I also have the time elapsed so far and the time remaining. I've written an entire set of perl modules for an awesome interface to mpg321 |
| 07:04.59 | alankelon | nomed^, but doesn't works |
| 07:05.19 | nomed^ | with ext yes it connects |
| 07:05.31 | dabreegster | Any other ideas? |
| 07:05.49 | giupy | mm, i stilll recive errors when i try test a rar file, this is the second one i try....why, where i wrong ? |
| 07:06.28 | alankelon | nomed^, trust on me: it's now working... http://channels.debian.net/paste/175 |
| 07:06.43 | karsten | giupy: Which RAR handler are you using? Free or non-free? |
| 07:07.19 | karsten | technos: What are you testing? |
| 07:07.23 | giupy | Karnaugh, i have dowqnloaded unrar from debian-unstable, i don't remember, why? |
| 07:07.28 | Gumby | top reports that 50% cpu usage is being used but in the process list everything is at 0%. Am I missing something or shouldnt what is being used show up there |
| 07:07.38 | giupy | oops |
| 07:07.58 | giupy | Karsten , i have dowqnloaded unrar from debian-unstable, i don't remember, why? |
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| 07:08.24 | technos | Some antique sparcs. I keep a bunch of tiny IBM drives around for testing old SCSI machines, but Linux is getting too big for me to use on them anymore. Potato, fine. Sarge, OWW. |
| 07:08.42 | nomed^ | alankelon try with joaobobo |
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| 07:09.02 | karsten | giupy: I'm not sure if it's RAR or CAB files, but IIRC neither's particularly reliable under Linux. The non-free extracters are better. |
| 07:09.30 | giupy | karsten, ok thanks i'll search for it |
| 07:10.36 | alankelon | nomed^, uh? |
| 07:11.03 | karsten | giupy: I think I'm full of it, FWIW. RAR seems to just have two Debian packages. |
| 07:11.13 | karsten | giupy: 'rar' and 'rar-2.80'. |
| 07:11.24 | robin_sz | so .. at some point soon, when Sarge releases ... it will go from testing to stable. do we all then have to edit our apt/sources.conf before we do an updgrade?? |
| 07:11.36 | karsten | robin_sz: Depends on what you're tracking. |
| 07:11.40 | nomed^ | alankelon, is collabore a module ? |
| 07:11.47 | robin_sz | I'm thinking of systems the run upgrade from cron |
| 07:11.52 | boukensya | quit |
| 07:12.00 | karsten | robin_sz: If you're trackign "woody", you'll track woody. If you're tracking "stable", you'll cut over from woody to sarge. |
| 07:12.09 | alankelon | nomed^, yes, it is |
| 07:12.11 | karsten | robin_sz: ...without having to do anything. |
| 07:12.12 | robin_sz | im trac |
| 07:12.23 | robin_sz | King testing I think |
| 07:12.35 | robin_sz | yep, testing |
| 07:12.55 | karsten | robin_sz: You'll continue to track testing then. You're approaching what's going to be "sarge". After release, "testing" => etch. |
| 07:13.21 | MobyTurbo | robin_sz: if you want to track Sarge after release, replace "testing" with "sarge" now |
| 07:13.21 | giupy | karsten, yes i have installed rar-2.80 now, i try it |
| 07:13.41 | robin_sz | so I need to go around my systems and edit my sources.list, k |
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| 07:14.06 | robin_sz | thanks, that will save a lot of pain :) |
| 07:15.04 | nomed^ | alankelon, if that is a module i can't help you .. i'm sorry |
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| 07:15.31 | alankelon | nomed^, don't worry |
| 07:15.33 | karsten | robin_sz: The implementation of named release => release state is via symlinks on the archive mirrors. |
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| 07:15.35 | alankelon | thanks anyway |
| 07:15.48 | robin_sz | and .. unstable .. what is now etch ... what happens to that? |
| 07:15.48 | giupy | mm same erros with rar-2.80.... |
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| 07:15.59 | robin_sz | it becomes testing I guess |
| 07:16.09 | MobyTurbo | robin_sz: unstable is *not* etch, it's sid, and does not all at once become etch. |
| 07:16.13 | boukensya | sorry had to reboot. Okay so I do a "apt-get install mutt" and it wants to install exim also, but I don't want exim. How do I tell it not to install exim? |
| 07:16.18 | Phated | Sid does not change at all. |
| 07:16.20 | robin_sz | MobyTurbo: ahh, ok |
| 07:16.25 | robin_sz | righty |
| 07:17.01 | technos | Sid always confuzzles folks. |
| 07:18.10 | shiftless | is there an experimental repository somewhere where i can get kde 3.3.4? |
| 07:18.28 | MobyTurbo | shiftless: www.apt-get.org |
| 07:18.41 | shiftless | thanks, i wasnt sure where to check besides google |
| 07:18.49 | shiftless | (not real familiar with debian) |
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| 07:20.20 | boukensya | thats what annoys me about debian.. some of the stupid dependencies it has |
| 07:21.48 | Gathond | boukensya: mutt wants some sort of MTA on the system, and exim is the default, if you install any other MTA mutt will be happy |
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| 07:22.27 | ethics | anyone by chance familiar with odbc on linux? any clues on the right channel if no one has? |
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| 07:22.34 | Gathond | boukensya: if you dont really need an actual MTA with queues and stuff I recomment ssmtp |
| 07:22.56 | MobyTurbo | !anyone |
| 07:22.56 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 07:23.31 | ethics | dpkg anyone is also the people reading these messages... |
| 07:23.31 | dpkg | okay, ethics |
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| 07:24.06 | MobyTurbo | ethics: you messed up the factoid |
| 07:24.11 | boukensya | Gathond: I don't really want any of them... will check out ssmtp though |
| 07:24.20 | boukensya | Gathond: I just want to setup mutt with gmail |
| 07:24.22 | Coke | ethics: I think a lot of people here are familiar with ODBC, but that's irrelevant anyway. |
| 07:24.22 | Lafitte- | i have errors running apt-get doesnt work |
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| 07:24.39 | MobyTurbo | !doesn't work |
| 07:24.39 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 07:24.51 | Lafitte- | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
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| 07:25.08 | Gathond | boukensya: if you want mutt to send mail you want, since mutt does not include an smtp function itself, so mutt depends on something else on the system being able to actually send the mail to other mail servers |
| 07:25.08 | debian | !anyone |
| 07:25.08 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. the people reading these messages... |
| 07:25.23 | dabreegster | Lafitte-: another app is using the dpk db |
| 07:25.27 | dabreegster | s/dpk/dpkg/ |
| 07:25.28 | boukensya | ohh ok cool I get it |
| 07:25.46 | tra1a1a | /"/ignore * joins quits parts" |
| 07:26.00 | tra1a1a | ah, sorry about that |
| 07:26.05 | Gathond | boukensya: and ssmpt is nice for this, as it does nothing but send mail directly to you ISP's outgoing mail server (or whatever you ask it to) |
| 07:26.05 | Lafitte- | dabreegster, i think its something called cvs not sure |
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| 07:26.25 | MobyTurbo | Lafitte-: lsof |
| 07:26.27 | Gathond | boukensya: Im off anyway, good luck |
| 07:26.34 | boukensya | thanks (: |
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| 07:27.00 | ethics | ok i have gODBCConfig running and im trying to set up a link to oracle...the library is /usr/lib/liboraodbc.so now im thinking thats the same as the setup lib but i get the error cannot construct a propertie list |
| 07:27.05 | Lafitte- | MobyTurbo, what do si do with that ? |
| 07:27.19 | MobyTurbo | Lafitte-: use it to find what process is opening a file |
| 07:27.34 | Lafitte- | ok im looking now |
| 07:27.49 | boukensya | how do I setup mutt for a user? |
| 07:28.42 | MobyTurbo | boukensya: edit their home directory's .muttrc |
| 07:29.54 | boukensya | is there a way to create a default for them? then edit that? |
| 07:30.14 | MobyTurbo | boukensya: yes, /etc/Muttrc |
| 07:30.23 | kneet | or man mutt - search for FILES section :) |
| 07:30.26 | MobyTurbo | boukensya: you do realize that all of this is in the manpage. |
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| 07:30.38 | Lafitte- | MobyTurbo, im clueless hehe i dont see any path that matches the error |
| 07:30.40 | boukensya | sorry I looked for a bit |
| 07:30.55 | MobyTurbo | Lafitte-: then maybe you can rm the lockfile |
| 07:30.58 | jm_ | boukensya: useradd can copy it by default from skel dir |
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| 07:31.25 | boukensya | yep (: thanks |
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| 07:31.28 | Lafitte- | does cvs mean anything i remember a package asking me about this |
| 07:31.47 | ethics | Lafitte-, CVS is the other way to get stuff from sourceforge i think. |
| 07:31.51 | spdf | Lafitte-, concurrent versioning system.. or something close.. |
| 07:32.03 | Lafitte- | well i think that took over |
| 07:32.11 | simonrvn | ethics: go ask your tech support for oracle, not here |
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| 07:32.15 | MobyTurbo | Lafitte-: cvs is a revision control system, as a client, it often is used to check out recent source from a repository. |
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| 07:32.39 | Lafitte- | MobyTurbo, i think that is what broke apt |
| 07:32.52 | ethics | simonrvn, i trying to find a better place 8)...this is just home so to speak |
| 07:32.58 | MobyTurbo | Lafitte-: cvs is not breaking apt all by itself |
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| 07:33.07 | TinoW | ethics: what are you trying? |
| 07:33.13 | Lafitte- | MobyTurbo, oh |
| 07:33.13 | simonrvn | ethics: understood |
| 07:33.25 | ethics | TinoW, just getting odbc working |
| 07:33.33 | Lafitte- | MobyTurbo, what should i do ? |
| 07:33.41 | ethics | TinoW, is ok ill find it in google somewhere |
| 07:33.43 | Coke | ethics: why the heck would you use ODBC? |
| 07:33.52 | Coke | ethics: Oracle has native drivers for GNU/Linux |
| 07:33.54 | MobyTurbo | Lafitte-: have you tried deleting the lock file? |
| 07:33.56 | TinoW | ow ODBC |
| 07:34.01 | cat | how can you brake APT? |
| 07:34.08 | simonrvn | say it, say it! 'hell' |
| 07:34.17 | Lafitte- | MobyTurbo, umm not sure what file to delete how i go about that ? |
| 07:34.21 | ethics | Coke: apps for windows im just looking at how linux does it as i dont want to run the windows app if i dont need to |
| 07:34.52 | MobyTurbo | Lafitte-: your error message could help |
| 07:35.03 | cat | Lafitte-: can you read? |
| 07:35.10 | Coke | ethics: well, that sentence doesn't make much sense. |
| 07:35.18 | cat | Lafitte-: best way to do is to do man apt or www.debian.org/doc |
| 07:35.20 | ethics | Coke: also some work in wine so im curious if i can get them working this way also ..i suspect not but im learning what linux can and cant do without oracle installed |
| 07:35.42 | technos | cat It's the pedal on the left. A PT is just like any other car, just uglier and less reliable. |
| 07:35.45 | Coke | ethics: linux can do a lot without Oracle installed. |
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| 07:35.51 | Lafitte- | MobyTurbo, ty i understood and rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock now it works |
| 07:36.10 | Coke | ethics: for instance, I have never had Oracle installed on any GNU/Linux I've ever used and I have never missed it. |
| 07:36.15 | MobyTurbo | Lafitte-: great, glad I could be of help |
| 07:36.40 | ethics | Coke: so how do you speak to an oracle server? |
| 07:37.06 | tra1a1a | ethics: cx_Oracle for python |
| 07:37.09 | Lafitte- | MobyTurbo, i was trying to remove all of gnome |
| 07:37.20 | Lafitte- | MobyTurbo, then i noticed apt was broken |
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| 07:38.21 | ethics | tra1a1a, without looking at the app..i need to know python to use it? |
| 07:38.42 | TinoW | ethics: what kind of app is that? |
| 07:38.48 | ethics | tra1a1a, actually ignore me ill just look |
| 07:39.24 | Lafitte- | cat, please dont be a curmudgeon, just because you are so smart |
| 07:39.37 | Lafitte- | can you read sheeesh |
| 07:39.45 | ethics | TinoW, they are just exe versions of ms access dbs.. |
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| 07:40.01 | TinoW | ethics: *shiver* |
| 07:40.16 | TinoW | ethics: I wonder how this could be related to python in any way? |
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| 07:40.39 | ethics | TinoW, just tralala said i should look at cx_Oracle |
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| 07:41.28 | ethics | TinoW, i guess if i was being greedy setting up tora would be best but i need the oracle downloads for that |
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| 07:42.05 | tra1a1a | 10:37 < ethics> Coke: so how do you speak to an oracle server? |
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| 07:42.41 | tra1a1a | That's the question I've answered. |
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| 07:42.58 | karsten | !seen Guerin |
| 07:42.59 | dpkg | guerin is currently on #debian (20h 7m 17s). Has said a total of 102129 messages. Is idling for 1h 5m 27s |
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| 07:45.03 | TinoW | ethics: you cant just run any windows executable. After all, its windows, not unix. There are emulations, such as wine to make this possible. But for real work you need a native application |
| 07:46.25 | dabreegster | Good night. |
| 07:48.05 | ethics | TinoW, yeah up till now i have been able to do what i need just by firing off SQLs but they want me to support these apps so was was hoping to not have to have a windows build at this site. |
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| 07:49.30 | ethics | TinoW, its not that big a drama...ill just setup a vmware for the site...just being curious with them i think hehe |
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| 07:57.55 | qpee | how could i install a init.d script so that it's launched after everything else was loaded (like after usb support and stuff alike)? |
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| 07:58.19 | qpee | i currently use update-rc.d but the ordering is not clear to me |
| 07:58.46 | darkskiez | i use rcconf |
| 07:58.50 | darkskiez | tick box tastic |
| 07:58.56 | EruditeH1rmit | hey, when I try to GUI login using my normal user, I get booted back to the WM screen. Login as other users works and so does login as root. |
| 07:59.06 | jm_ | find out what loads USB, then check its start number and put it after that, 99 should be last either way |
| 07:59.20 | jm_ | EruditeH1rmit: check ~/.xsession-errors |
| 07:59.20 | EruditeH1rmit | can anyone help? |
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| 07:59.33 | nagual | EruditeH1rmit: is that a rethorical question? |
| 07:59.36 | EruditeH1rmit | jm_: it says failed to load groupfile |
| 07:59.56 | EruditeH1rmit | nagual: no |
| 08:00.01 | nagual | ;-) |
| 08:00.17 | TinoW | EruditeH1rmit: no /etc/group ? no free space in $HOME? |
| 08:00.36 | [MathieuR11] | bonjour tout le monde |
| 08:00.40 | tra1a1a | qpee: update-rc.d is the right way to do it. Read the man and with a bit of expreimenting you'll get it right. |
| 08:00.53 | [MathieuR11] | hello world |
| 08:00.59 | EruditeH1rmit | TinoW: /etc/group exists and there is space in home |
| 08:01.06 | TinoW | bonjour Mathieur |
| 08:01.22 | TinoW | .oO(sometimes a nickcompleter-friendly nick would be nice ;/ ) |
| 08:01.27 | [MathieuR11] | Bjr :) |
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| 08:01.51 | tra1a1a | !nickometer [MathieuR11] |
| 08:01.52 | dpkg | '[MathieuR11]' is 39.000% lame, tra1a1a |
| 08:01.58 | [MathieuR11] | Debian a t'il retarder la date de sortie de la Sarge Stable ? |
| 08:02.01 | Akselii | haha |
| 08:02.06 | Akselii | !nickometer Akselii |
| 08:02.08 | tra1a1a | not that bad |
| 08:02.11 | Akselii | bah |
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| 08:02.23 | tra1a1a | !fr |
| 08:02.23 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 08:02.25 | Akselii | it says im 0% lame nick |
| 08:02.27 | Akselii | i have* |
| 08:02.38 | tra1a1a | you should see mine... |
| 08:02.49 | [MathieuR11] | What is ? |
| 08:02.49 | tarzeau | !fr |
| 08:02.50 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 08:02.57 | Akselii | !nickometer tra1a1a |
| 08:02.58 | [MathieuR11] | ok |
| 08:02.58 | tarzeau | tra1a1a: ahh that was a bad lag |
| 08:03.29 | tra1a1a | tarzeau: mine or yours? I don't seem to have a lag, btw. |
| 08:03.41 | tarzeau | mine |
| 08:03.51 | [MathieuR11] | !nickometer tra1a1a |
| 08:04.10 | [MathieuR11] | hmm |
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| 08:04.15 | EruditeH1rmit | I now get an error saying xrdb cannot open display 0 |
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| 08:04.21 | tra1a1a | quite lame, isn't it? |
| 08:05.08 | [MathieuR11] | I don't speak english, not understand |
| 08:05.14 | technos | Almost perfectly lame. |
| 08:05.21 | [MathieuR11] | Bye al |
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| 08:05.50 | technos | Stop confusing the Frenchies, damn. I even knew he was just asking what the release date of Sarge was. :) |
| 08:05.50 | tra1a1a | I hope to have it replaced soon. |
| 08:06.01 | TinoW | technos: ;) |
| 08:06.23 | tra1a1a | nah, we didn't !confuse him |
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| 08:07.20 | tra1a1a | and he was directed to debian-fr in perfect french. At least it seems perfect to me, because I didn't get anything out of it :) |
| 08:07.47 | technos | Why did I think I could save time installing and testing these at work? Sure, I had eight hours to kill, but at this rate the first machine won't be installed over dialup till an hour after I go home. :/ |
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| 08:09.53 | qpee | tra1a1a: update-rc.d -n foobar start foobar 10 doesn't work out. i guess its the runlevl you mean right? |
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| 08:10.33 | EruditeH1rmit | All my apps are segfaulting for some reason |
| 08:11.40 | tra1a1a | qpee: Did I mention that you should read the man? Anyway here is an example: update-rc.d -n your_script start 01 2 3 4 5 . stop 99 0 1 6 . |
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| 08:13.41 | dondelelcaro | EruditeH1rmit: all of them? |
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| 08:14.28 | EruditeH1rmit | dondelelcaro: random apps at random times |
| 08:14.37 | dondelelcaro | EruditeH1rmit: but not everything all the time? |
| 08:14.42 | EruditeH1rmit | no |
| 08:14.46 | dondelelcaro | EruditeH1rmit: I'd suggest bad memory then |
| 08:15.13 | EruditeH1rmit | dondelelcaro: could well be, I just pulled one bad memory dimm out |
| 08:15.17 | moreon | Funny how everything segfaulting all the time is better than things at random :) |
| 08:15.22 | EruditeH1rmit | dondelelcaro: but this one passed memtest |
| 08:15.31 | dondelelcaro | EruditeH1rmit: hrm... even multiple runs of memtest? |
| 08:15.32 | furrywolf | EruditeH1rmit: what motherboard? |
| 08:15.58 | EruditeH1rmit | some Intel centrino board |
| 08:16.04 | qpee | tra1a1a: i still need to read the man, as these integers don't make sense in the first glace |
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| 08:16.13 | toadi | grrr |
| 08:16.17 | furrywolf | probably bad ram then... if it were a p3 system, I would have suggest checking the caps. :) |
| 08:16.28 | toadi | did dist-upgrade sarge and now my 2.6.9 custom kernel don't work anymore :D |
| 08:16.33 | iLLf8d | EruditeH1rmit: missed most of the convo but could be overheating or bad ps too |
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| 08:16.41 | tra1a1a | qpee: That's were I started from. |
| 08:16.50 | streuner | toadi: what error? |
| 08:17.15 | EruditeH1rmit | iLLf8d, furrywolf: I think I will get dell to check it up |
| 08:17.16 | EruditeH1rmit | thanks |
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| 08:17.54 | iLLf8d | EruditeH1rmit: just outta curiosity do you have a billion devices in your computer? like burner and dvd, 2-4 hds, zip, floppy, etc...? |
| 08:18.25 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 08:18.28 | toadi | kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: ... |
| 08:18.30 | tra1a1a | centrino soulds like a laptop |
| 08:18.34 | toadi | is vanilla kernel |
| 08:18.44 | toadi | tried the stock 2.6.11 but got not network |
| 08:18.47 | tra1a1a | so the billion is unlikely |
| 08:18.56 | streuner | toadi: /msg dpkg upgrade test |
| 08:18.57 | EruditeH1rmit | iLLf8d: nope |
| 08:18.59 | toadi | so reverted to 2.6.8 stock kernel i recompiled |
| 08:19.14 | EruditeH1rmit | iLLf8d: its a laptop |
| 08:19.16 | [Roosta] | does smbfs mounts belong in fstab? |
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| 08:19.40 | TinoW | [Roosta]: no, they belong in hell ;) |
| 08:19.44 | streuner | toadi: that was woody, right? |
| 08:19.45 | technos | [Roosta]: It can, but it's usually too transitory to go there. |
| 08:19.46 | tra1a1a | ahahahah :) |
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| 08:19.50 | iLLf8d | ok disreguard what I toldya then (tho I had issues like that with a bad ac/dc card in my thinkpad) |
| 08:19.52 | toadi | no |
| 08:19.56 | toadi | i was on sarge |
| 08:20.08 | streuner | toadi: and now you running sid? |
| 08:20.11 | toadi | no |
| 08:20.13 | toadi | erm |
| 08:20.16 | toadi | fuck |
| 08:20.16 | streuner | :-) |
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| 08:20.26 | tra1a1a | !enter |
| 08:20.26 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help. |
| 08:20.29 | iLLf8d | tho my thinkpad is ancient so good luch (probalby not related) |
| 08:20.37 | toadi | ok think me made a mistake :D |
| 08:20.45 | TinoW | Herr Rossi sucht das Glück! ;) |
| 08:21.02 | streuner | toadi: you said you did a dist-upgrade, what should be that then? |
| 08:21.03 | toadi | grah noooo i did |
| 08:21.13 | toadi | prolly i did forgot to run -s |
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| 08:21.38 | [Roosta] | technos - was that a joke? on account of tra1a1a laughing it makes me doubt |
| 08:21.50 | toadi | streuner, APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
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| 08:22.23 | toadi | has testing changed to sid without me knowing ? |
| 08:22.31 | bob2 | no |
| 08:22.41 | toadi | well then i just did a upgrade of my sarge |
| 08:22.46 | toadi | was month ago |
| 08:22.52 | streuner | !etch |
| 08:22.52 | dpkg | etch is probably the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ : <releases> |
| 08:23.01 | streuner | !sid |
| 08:23.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, sid is the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. |
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| 08:23.18 | toadi | well i will recompile the stock kernel source off 2.6.11 and we'll see :D |
| 08:23.58 | streuner | dpkg, sid is also It will never released. |
| 08:23.58 | dpkg | streuner: okay |
| 08:24.22 | toadi | sometimes ubuntu looks very nice :D |
| 08:24.33 | [Roosta] | "backronymed Still In Development." |
| 08:24.34 | toadi | got on dekstop next to my laptop that runs debian |
| 08:24.38 | [Roosta] | i like that, backronymed |
| 08:24.41 | toadi | looks nice |
| 08:24.48 | streuner | toadi: so you have ubuntu packages installed? |
| 08:24.52 | toadi | no |
| 08:24.56 | toadi | just normal debian |
| 08:25.09 | toadi | streuner, got : APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
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| 08:25.20 | toadi | and did dist-upgrade |
| 08:25.45 | streuner | toadi: just forget this and make a 'normal' dist-upgrade |
| 08:26.00 | tra1a1a | dpkg, sid ~= s/never released/never be released/ |
| 08:26.17 | streuner | !sid |
| 08:26.17 | dpkg | from memory, sid is the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never released. |
| 08:26.17 | postel | the worse fuckup you can do on a debian system is remove /etc config files for a packet without removing the packet, remove doesnt work, --purge doesnt, install --reinstall doersnt, dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq doesnt, hitting it with a brick doesnt |
| 08:26.43 | tra1a1a | nah, dpkg doesn't want to learn from me |
| 08:27.16 | streuner | dpkg, no sid is <reply> the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 08:27.16 | dpkg | okay, streuner |
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| 08:27.45 | postel | and guess what, you CANT reinstall a packet untill you sucessfully uninstall it |
| 08:27.49 | streuner | thanks tra1a1a |
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| 08:28.17 | tra1a1a | streuner: np |
| 08:28.17 | _joey | is sarge going to be released today?:) |
| 08:28.35 | tra1a1a | _joey: let's wait and see |
| 08:28.49 | streuner | _joey: read debian-devel-announce |
| 08:29.04 | _joey | have been waiting whole day |
| 08:29.05 | technos | It's the sixth already? |
| 08:29.27 | technos | Oh, fuck. Only the 31st. Got a while to wait, _joey |
| 08:30.20 | rossi | j2re is there the javac from sun included?? |
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| 08:30.32 | rossi | java compiler i mean |
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| 08:31.16 | skaught | rossi: I think you want the sdk |
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| 08:31.34 | _joey | I read an article on slashdot that it will be released on 31st |
| 08:31.41 | rossi | I have the article how to easy make a deb package of j2re |
| 08:31.41 | streuner | _joey: read debian-devel-announce |
| 08:32.01 | rossi | but it doesn't work for j2se I think or? |
| 08:32.02 | _joey | streuner got url link ? |
| 08:32.09 | technos | _joey: I read a lot of things on slashdot. Did you know Natalie Portman has a thing for hot breakfast cereals? |
| 08:32.11 | furrywolf | slashdot... news for nerds. comments by morons. |
| 08:32.27 | jm_ | rossi: correct |
| 08:32.34 | tra1a1a | !fgi _joey debian-devel-announce |
| 08:32.36 | dpkg | _joey: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=debian-devel-announce |
| 08:32.39 | debian | furrywolf: hehe |
| 08:32.45 | _joey | technos how is it relevant to this disucssion ? O r was it your thick sense of humour ? |
| 08:33.06 | tarzeau | streuner: hehe our isps rule: http://n.ethz.ch/student/dobinr/some_pics/funny/sunrise.jpg |
| 08:33.16 | streuner | _joey: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/threads.html |
| 08:33.24 | rossi | or anyone can help me how to compile with jikes I have used gcj -C Java.java and it worked fine but some files it doesn't want to compile |
| 08:33.43 | technos | _joey: Probably my sense of humour, or rather my lack of one. |
| 08:33.43 | rossi | I think it is because of it doesn't support jdk 1.1 |
| 08:33.47 | _joey | streuner thanks |
| 08:34.22 | rossi | how to compile a Java.java to a .class file with jikes? I have read it supports up to jdk 1.3 |
| 08:34.27 | streuner | tarzeau: how can i change quickly? ;-) |
| 08:34.38 | nagual | streuner: using nlp. |
| 08:34.40 | tarzeau | streuner: move into switzerland? |
| 08:34.53 | tra1a1a | tarzeau: what does schaeft mean? |
| 08:35.02 | furrywolf | phated: and why was I bitten? :P |
| 08:35.04 | tarzeau | tra1a1a: schlaeft, is like bumsen |
| 08:35.16 | Phated | furrywolf: Fight for dominance. |
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| 08:35.39 | tra1a1a | which is another word I don't recall |
| 08:35.46 | tarzeau | tra1a1a: banging |
| 08:35.57 | tarzeau | tra1a1a: shagging |
| 08:36.07 | furrywolf | phated: impossible. I have sources claiming there's no such thing as furry debian women. |
| 08:36.37 | Phated | Women do not fight for dominance. I fail to see how they are relevant. |
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| 08:36.40 | tra1a1a | tarzeau: Ah, I recall it now! It means sleep. Funny :) |
| 08:37.25 | streuner | tarzeau: http://n.ethz.ch/student/dobinr/some_pics/funny/How_to_lose_your_job.jpg :-)) |
| 08:37.39 | furrywolf | didn't you say you were female at some point? |
| 08:38.00 | tarzeau | streuner: hehe |
| 08:38.13 | resiak | "omg a woman lol wtf"? |
| 08:38.38 | furrywolf | resiak: that was a joke. :P |
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| 08:39.41 | toadi | new compile |
| 08:39.53 | toadi | mhh build error |
| 08:40.03 | furrywolf | mmm... ultra harness 2000 listed for only $18 on ebay. bet it will go up in price though. :( |
| 08:41.13 | streuner | "But we are *very* close, so we're only pushing the schedule back a week and aiming for a release next weekend." |
| 08:41.13 | Phated | I have never -said- I was a female. Besides, for questioning why you were bitten, you deserved a snipe. Most people would be happy about it. |
| 08:41.22 | toadi | /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.11/scripts/gen_initramfs_list.sh: Cannot open 'n' |
| 08:41.24 | toadi | mhhh |
| 08:41.26 | streuner | _joey: ^^^^ http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00020.html |
| 08:41.32 | toadi | wtf is that |
| 08:41.38 | furrywolf | phated: but being bitten hurts! :P |
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| 08:41.49 | resiak | toadi: IT'S A BOMB! DON'T TOUCH IT! |
| 08:41.53 | Phated | furrywolf: And? |
| 08:41.56 | toadi | well i know |
| 08:42.01 | furrywolf | and why shouldn't I ask why I was bitten? :P |
| 08:42.08 | Phated | No one else does. |
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| 08:42.44 | furrywolf | oh well. I generally like to know why people are biting me. :P |
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| 08:43.06 | toadi | grrr don't run as root ? |
| 08:43.17 | resiak | toadi: No, don't compile stuff as root. |
| 08:43.54 | tra1a1a | furrywolf: well, honestly I generally don't care why people are biting you. |
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| 08:44.15 | toadi | erm always compile as root |
| 08:44.19 | toadi | :D |
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| 08:44.29 | furrywolf | tra1a1a: good for you. :P |
| 08:44.41 | tra1a1a | indeed |
| 08:45.29 | mortalman | ok, if I have X running as user1, how can I set it up so I can have X run for user2 as well and switch between them with Ctrl+Alt+Fx ?? |
| 08:45.30 | toadi | ok |
| 08:45.35 | mortalman | Or is this possible? |
| 08:46.16 | furrywolf | mortalman: two X servers probably don't like sharing a single video card... but I could be wrong. might be able to do it with the fb server. |
| 08:46.30 | tra1a1a | mortalman: it's possible |
| 08:46.32 | beardy | mortalman: Yes. It's possible. |
| 08:46.32 | drac | mortalman: startx -- :0 for first, and startx -- :1 for second? |
| 08:46.37 | amphi | furrywolf: startx -- :1 as the second user |
| 08:46.39 | mortalman | hmm |
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| 08:46.58 | tra1a1a | do you use (x|k|g)dm or startx? |
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| 08:47.52 | mortalman | Well, I use kdm, but that startx trick did the job. |
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| 08:48.02 | mortalman | Is there a way with kdm? |
| 08:48.09 | tra1a1a | yes, there is |
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| 08:49.09 | tra1a1a | check its config in /etc/kde3/kdm |
| 08:49.26 | mortalman | wow, computer runs a lot slower. lol |
| 08:49.27 | tra1a1a | you will find comments with examples there |
| 08:49.33 | mortalman | sweet thanks |
| 08:50.09 | tra1a1a | and don't say lol here (/msg dpkg lol) |
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| 08:51.34 | mortalman | greycat kills a penguin?!?!?!?!?!? |
| 08:51.39 | mortalman | Noooooooooo! |
| 08:51.49 | tra1a1a | see? |
| 08:52.16 | mortalman | *snif sniff*..... uh huh. |
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| 09:06.17 | themolester | i have a 4800GB raid partition... and fdisk is choking on it, how can i get it to mount |
| 09:06.26 | themolester | or get it partitioned |
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| 09:09.00 | stonie | hi all |
| 09:09.06 | rage | Mental blank.... How do you add a user to a group again? |
| 09:09.14 | directhex | themolester, because the problem is with the ms-dos partition tables |
| 09:09.19 | bbrazil | rage: adduser user group |IIRC |
| 09:09.35 | rage | hehe |
| 09:09.36 | stonie | how would you build up a disk redundant system? so that / mirrored or something |
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| 09:09.46 | directhex | themolester, make a bunch of 1.5tb arrays, which ms-dos partition tables can support. then combine those arrays into a big'un with lvm |
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| 09:09.51 | lilliput | hello all .. |
| 09:09.52 | themolester | well can i configure it with a non msdos compatible partitions |
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| 09:10.01 | themolester | i'll never be using msdos on this box |
| 09:10.01 | themolester | heh |
| 09:10.05 | furrywolf | I think around about 1980 they figured 2TB ought to be enough for anyone. :P |
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| 09:10.22 | karsten | themolester: Never say never.... |
| 09:10.32 | themolester | i will NEVER install msdos on this box |
| 09:10.33 | themolester | heh |
| 09:10.34 | karsten | Granted, FreeDOS. |
| 09:10.40 | directhex | themolester, fine, as long as it's not an x86 |
| 09:10.43 | karsten | ...in qemu. |
| 09:10.52 | themolester | its a xeon |
| 09:11.03 | furrywolf | hrmm. ez-rider balls sell for too much money too. :( |
| 09:11.20 | lilliput | Got a question I got a weird pb with my keyboard.. times to times I can not type any letters anymore - but could in tty1 .. I have to restart X at each time.. someone know where it could come from ? |
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| 09:12.08 | directhex | themolester, if you're on x86, you're limited by x86's idiosyncracies |
| 09:12.16 | lilliput | I should add that I'm on unstable+xfce4.2 |
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| 09:12.53 | furrywolf | so what's going to happen with 2tb single drives come out? |
| 09:12.59 | furrywolf | s/with/when |
| 09:13.22 | themolester | directhex is xeon x86? |
| 09:13.33 | furrywolf | yep |
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| 09:13.51 | karsten | furrywolf: Someone will create a 2tb single drive dating service? |
| 09:13.56 | directhex | themolester, very much so |
| 09:14.04 | themolester | well that sucks |
| 09:14.07 | directhex | themolester, it's still an 8088 at heart |
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| 09:15.18 | lilliput | ++ my internal laptop keyboard seems to be in USB |
| 09:16.14 | furrywolf | the fact that the hard drive partitions invented in the late 70s are still used today is probably a sign they were thinking a lot further ahead than most people were... |
| 09:16.21 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 09:16.21 | dpkg | <toggle> by the way I don't have man installed.. |
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| 09:17.20 | paulswm | Morning, tarzeau |
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| 09:20.14 | usuario_usuario | hola |
| 09:20.14 | rituraj | dpkg d-i |
| 09:20.14 | dpkg | somebody said d-i was the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 09:20.20 | tarzeau | hi paulswm |
| 09:20.22 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 09:20.26 | dpkg | from memory, qotd53 is <Cyph_> i'm stoned, but the segfaults are real abrotman |
| 09:20.36 | paulswm | 53 is a good one |
| 09:21.11 | jethro | !lart ikoula for unplugging my box when I don't pay on time |
| 09:21.16 | Nigel | lol |
| 09:21.21 | rituraj | dpkg wwsr |
| 09:21.22 | dpkg | Sarge will release WIR; SIYH. The current estimate is that it will be released around June 6th. Latest release update: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00020.html and ask me about <sarge pool>, <wir>, <siyh>, <sarge guess> and <sing sarge>. Sarge takes too long? ask me about <vancouver> |
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| 09:21.51 | rituraj | dpkg food |
| 09:21.51 | dpkg | [food] "any substance that can be metabolized by an organism to give energy and build tissue," according to WordNet 2.0. Electricity for humans. |
| 09:22.04 | furrywolf | brb |
| 09:22.07 | rituraj | dpkg fuck |
| 09:22.07 | dpkg | well, fuck is a wonderful, versitile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav |
| 09:22.50 | liable | rituraj: /msg the bot |
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| 09:23.57 | TinoW | .oO(/whois the ) |
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| 09:24.54 | themolester | btw, i just found out... for those who told me 2GB is the absolute most... |
| 09:25.08 | paulswm | dpkg: fuck =~ s/versitile/versatile/ |
| 09:25.08 | dpkg | paulswm: OK |
| 09:25.12 | themolester | that if you run a 64bit x86 proc... a xeon |
| 09:25.14 | paulswm | !fuck |
| 09:25.14 | dpkg | i guess fuck is a wonderful, versatile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav |
| 09:25.21 | themolester | then you can use 64bit lba |
| 09:25.24 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 09:25.24 | dpkg | methinks qotd99 is <t-jack> I have a 17-inch dysfunctional $Piece_Of_Hardware... |
| 09:25.29 | themolester | which allows much more than 2TB |
| 09:25.39 | si_ | quit |
| 09:25.41 | themolester | (i typeod above TB not GB) |
| 09:26.05 | themolester | but fdisk still chokes, and you have to install parted to partition the drive |
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| 09:26.11 | tra1a1a | themolester: this was the expected situation |
| 09:26.34 | tra1a1a | (except for fdisk) |
| 09:26.44 | themolester | but with parted... i am now almost done formatting the whole 4.8TB without crappy lvm |
| 09:26.46 | themolester | heh |
| 09:27.25 | themolester | just a fyi for the two who told me there was no choice on x86 |
| 09:27.41 | tra1a1a | 4.8TB... I don't even want to think what I would need to do if I have to fill this up. |
| 09:28.11 | tra1a1a | well, that's not x86, but x86_64 instead |
| 09:28.20 | jethro | !irritate me |
| 09:28.21 | dpkg | jethro: hi every1 how does I run teh grafixx windows kthx |
| 09:28.27 | themolester | thats what i thought |
| 09:28.55 | themolester | directhex|work said it was x86, and i was stuck |
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| 09:29.34 | themolester | hrmm |
| 09:29.38 | themolester | i just mounted... |
| 09:29.44 | themolester | and its showing as 2TB |
| 09:29.53 | tra1a1a | hi didn't actually but anyhow |
| 09:30.16 | tra1a1a | are you running a 64 bit kernel and a 64 bit userspace? |
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| 09:30.20 | stonie | what would you use to setup a redundant system? lvm/md .. |
| 09:30.23 | supaman | which kernel version (k7, 686, 386) of the 2.6.8 tree should I use for a athlon 700MHz? |
| 09:30.40 | themolester | tra1a1a i diddn't say you did... i said directhex|work did |
| 09:30.44 | themolester | :) |
| 09:30.47 | drac | supaman: k7 |
| 09:31.00 | tra1a1a | supaman: you could use all of them, but k7 will be exactly for your cpu |
| 09:31.01 | themolester | that may be the problem tra1a1a which kernel am i supposed to run for xeon? |
| 09:31.10 | supaman | takk for det |
| 09:31.12 | themolester | also, is there a xeon smp kernel? |
| 09:31.19 | Trewas | most of the xeons are 32bit x86, the newer ones have the amd64 64bit extensions... though that should not have any effect on what kind of disks/partitions they can use |
| 09:31.42 | drac | themolester: 686-smp |
| 09:31.49 | stonie | am i asking wrong? |
| 09:31.49 | tra1a1a | not the kind, but the size |
| 09:31.59 | themolester | k, i will try that |
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| 09:32.23 | tra1a1a | themolester: you're running 32 bit, so forget about it |
| 09:33.06 | themolester | i was told that this exact system had the full partition set up before |
| 09:33.17 | themolester | so i know its possible... i just dont know why its not working |
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| 09:36.15 | furrywolf | back |
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| 09:37.41 | furrywolf | I guess I'll attempt to sleep... bbl |
| 09:37.45 | paulswm | stonie: If you want a redundant *system*, then you need something like Stratus hardware. I suspect, however, that you mean redundant disks, so RAID1 or RAID5, suggest reading the Software Raid Howto. |
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| 09:38.22 | lilliput | nobody ? |
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| 09:39.39 | tra1a1a | themolester: uname -r? |
| 09:40.40 | tra1a1a | themolester: ah, did you recreate the fs after resizing the partition? |
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| 09:41.43 | ionrivera_ | hi! need help here! I have a problem with php finding and using xmail |
| 09:42.31 | paulswm | lilliput: Beats me. I would google for my laptop model and linux and see if anyone else is having the same problems |
| 09:42.32 | ionrivera_ | why does php mail() function doesn't work |
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| 09:42.40 | SlayerXP | ionrivera_: this is #debian |
| 09:42.49 | paulswm | !doesn't work |
| 09:42.49 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 09:43.00 | SlayerXP | ionrivera_: perhaps you mean to join #php instead? |
| 09:43.24 | freetolive | I'm sorry, about this question that i'm about to ask, but i'm not getting any response from the appropriate chatroom. My question is about Firefox. I would like to apply a patch to fix a problem I'm having with an extension. How do I apply the patch? |
| 09:43.54 | lilliput | paulswm, my laptop is 3 years old never had this pb .. just since 2 months .. roundly .. |
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| 09:45.01 | lilliput | paulswm, I even made the warranty to change my keyboard recently because of one broken key.. but restart X and everything is working is definitly not an hardware pb |
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| 09:45.43 | KerPlunk | Is it true sarge might be released next weekend if rc bug count drops? |
| 09:45.50 | ionrivera_ | i'm using sendmail for debian, why does my mail() script do not send |
| 09:45.52 | KerPlunk | Is it really that close? |
| 09:45.55 | stonie | paulswm, ok thanks.. let me say i want to build up a redundant system disk.. so that / is mirrored or stripped. just need to know whats the best sollution, ill read the rest on my own |
| 09:46.02 | bob2 | ionrivera_: because you didn't configure sendmail properly |
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| 09:46.35 | stonie | software sollution.. i dont got any hw raid controlleres here |
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| 09:46.42 | ionrivera_ | but if i use the console to send an email its working |
| 09:46.52 | bob2 | ionrivera_: to a remote machine? |
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| 09:46.57 | paulswm | lilliput: I didn't think it sounded like a hardware problem as it works in text but not in X, but the googling may help if you don't get a response here. |
| 09:47.03 | Steven_ | hi, does anyone here have a promise ultra tx2 ata133 controller ? (chipset pdc20269) ? |
| 09:47.54 | stonie | yea in one machine (not running atm) |
| 09:47.55 | Crasp | i think i have one at home |
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| 09:48.05 | Steven_ | what kind of performance do you get ? |
| 09:48.07 | ionrivera_ | no in my local machine, |
| 09:48.21 | Steven_ | I've tried 3 cards, with different cables, different PCI slots, different machines |
| 09:48.27 | Steven_ | and I always get less than 25MB/s |
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| 09:49.10 | legba7 | How do i find out what makes my woody beep and do not stop to beep till i create another beep. |
| 09:49.11 | ionrivera_ | i'm using debian for my HTTP server, |
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| 09:49.17 | paulswm | stonie: read the howto, it covers all the raid setups. Striping isn't in itself redundant of course. RAID1 or RAID0+1 or RAID5. You can also do striping in lvm, butnot mirroring. |
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| 09:49.41 | supaman | ok, now I have booted into the 2.6 kernel and my usb mouse doesnt work, any module names changed since the 2.2 kernel version ? |
| 09:50.07 | tra1a1a | legba7: when does it beep? |
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| 09:50.24 | Sparcrypt | Yay I am here |
| 09:50.30 | stonie | paulswm, so i have to use md ? |
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| 09:50.49 | lilliput | paulswm, I already google before coming here .. your my last chance .. ( I even have new kernel .. ) |
| 09:50.54 | legba7 | tra1a1a: That is the problem, sometime when i am plaiing bzflag for example. |
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| 09:51.11 | stonie | reading |
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| 09:51.59 | rage | Hey sandman |
| 09:52.14 | Sparcrypt | Hrmm can anyone help with my problem? Google cant seem to.. I am unable to su from a normal user, everytime I do I get an authentication failure even though I am using the correct password |
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| 09:52.24 | tra1a1a | legba7: I would google for bzflag beeping |
| 09:52.28 | Sparcrypt | Hey rage :) |
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| 09:53.46 | paulswm | stonie: I don't use RAID although all my boxes are multi disk, I don't need high availability, so I use lvm, ext3 and daily backups. That's why I'm passing you to the howto, as it is pretty good and you are getting no other response here. |
| 09:53.50 | PeTeRB | Sparcrypt: Whose passwrod are you using? |
| 09:54.00 | Sparcrypt | the root password |
| 09:54.07 | PeTeRB | Ok. |
| 09:54.10 | Sparcrypt | I type in su - and then the root password, but it fails |
| 09:54.14 | legba7 | tra1a1a: It do also start to beep if i cp some data from one partition to another and in when i do nothing also. I would like to find out what triggers the beep. |
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| 09:54.56 | qpee | i need to convert a wav file to mp3, what tool could i use? |
| 09:55.27 | tra1a1a | legba7: isn't there anything reported in the syslog? |
| 09:55.37 | tra1a1a | qpee: lame |
| 09:55.38 | K_Dallas | qpee, there is lame, audacity, beast, ... |
| 09:56.01 | legba7 | tra1a1a: no i havn't seen anything unusual. |
| 09:56.04 | PeTeRB | K_Dallas: Doesn't audacity use lame? |
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| 09:56.15 | K_Dallas | sure but it has gui |
| 09:56.17 | tina_ | for an article i need to know whether debian ships mp3 *encoders* or not |
| 09:56.20 | qpee | thanks tra1a1a, K_Dallas |
| 09:56.23 | tina_ | anyone know? |
| 09:56.23 | tra1a1a | legba7: is it a laptop? |
| 09:56.35 | Sparcrypt | so, noone has any issues with su like this? |
| 09:56.37 | tra1a1a | dpkg: anyone know |
| 09:56.37 | dpkg | Nope, no one knows! Actually, someone *might* know, but it's best to simply state your problem or ask your question. If someone in the know is around, they will answer, if not, well, no one knows ;). |
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| 09:56.49 | legba7 | tra1a1a: it is a desktop |
| 09:57.09 | PeTeRB | Sparcrypt: Hold on please |
| 09:57.19 | Sparcrypt | Sure |
| 09:57.38 | tra1a1a | legba7: any funny hardware? does it always beep when you cp or from time to time? |
| 09:57.39 | MobyTurbo | tina_: go to apt-get.org and search for the relevant MP3 encoder software |
| 09:57.45 | K_Dallas | Sparcrypt, you are not usuing ubuntu, are you? |
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| 09:58.08 | rage | K_Dallas: Na he's not, definitely Debian |
| 09:58.14 | K_Dallas | good :) |
| 09:58.26 | tina_ | MobyTurbo: thx. would you have a pointer to debian politics about mp3 encoders? like suse doesn't because of licensing issues |
| 09:58.26 | K_Dallas | just making sure, i dont know everybody here |
| 09:58.31 | legba7 | tra1a1a: i have my system running for years with no problem, the beepproblem is new. |
| 09:58.33 | stonie | paulswm, yea thanks. im using lvm/ext3 aswell on my home machines.. but now theres need of this new server ;). cant find anything about raiding the / fs yet. |
| 09:58.33 | Sparcrypt | heh I dont even know what ubunto is ;) Never heard of it before |
| 09:58.46 | MobyTurbo | tina_: royalty-free mp3 encoders are semi-illegal. |
| 09:58.52 | rage | Hehe, its Debian based, lots of people come in asking for support for it |
| 09:59.00 | legba7 | tra1a1a: from time to time |
| 09:59.19 | PeTeRB | Sparcrypt: You can log in as root fine? |
| 09:59.27 | Sparcrypt | ah.. well as you know rage my linux skills are about 2 notches up from "total noob" ;) |
| 09:59.45 | Sparcrypt | PeTeRB: yep, normal root logins work fine |
| 09:59.50 | rage | PeTeRB: I've checked over his /etc/pam.d/su file, it appears its all in order. |
| 09:59.53 | tina_ | MobyTurbo: right. that's why i'm asking. need to write couple truthful lines in the article about debian for daus |
| 09:59.54 | legba7 | tra1a1a: Thank you for your help but i have to go now, Sorry. |
| 10:00.02 | tarzeau | hey MobyTurbo |
| 10:00.06 | tina_ | MobyTurbo: have no debian box tho |
| 10:00.12 | MobyTurbo | tarzeau: hey. :-) |
| 10:00.17 | qpee | K_Dallas: is libmp3lame.so availible from deb packages? it's required by audacity |
| 10:00.40 | K_Dallas | qpee: my guess is that if you install audacity, it would suggest those packages but nto sure |
| 10:00.47 | K_Dallas | let me check that lib |
| 10:00.57 | qpee | K_Dallas: ahh, there is liblame-devm it;s no suggested though |
| 10:01.07 | MobyTurbo | tina_: no Debian box? No installation of the Best Distro? :-) |
| 10:01.25 | K_Dallas | qpee, so i dont know |
| 10:01.42 | resiak | !tell tina_ -about marillat |
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| 10:01.46 | qpee | K_Dallas: thanks, i just found it in that dev-package |
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| 10:01.50 | K_Dallas | i have that lib on my system but not sure howi i installed it |
| 10:01.53 | liable | qpee: toolame? |
| 10:02.05 | resiak | tina_: Marillat packages all kinds of legally-dubious things, such as Lame and associated gubbins. |
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| 10:02.22 | qpee | liable: the lib i needed was in the package liblame-dev |
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| 10:02.37 | tina_ | resiak: k, interesting but not an option here. |
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| 10:03.06 | tina_ | resiak: need to know something solid about how debian deals with the fraunhofer problem |
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| 10:03.44 | MobyTurbo | tina_: simple, Debian does not offer MP3 encoders, but quite unofficial repositories such as marillat offer them. |
| 10:03.57 | resiak | tina_: Head in the sand with respect to decoders -- I suspect that decoding will vanish in Etch. This is just a guess, but it's vanished from Ubuntu for patent reasons. |
| 10:04.04 | tina_ | MobyTurbo: i'll quote you :) |
| 10:04.15 | galois | what's the command to find out the kernel version? |
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| 10:04.19 | MobyTurbo | tina_: OK |
| 10:04.26 | tarzeau | galois: uname -a |
| 10:04.33 | seldon | uname -r |
| 10:04.38 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: better to compile lame yourself |
| 10:04.40 | bbrazil | galois: uname -r |
| 10:04.45 | galois | thanks |
| 10:05.37 | MobyTurbo | tarzeau: I never have installed LAME, I am satisfied with ogg since I don't have an MP3 player yet. |
| 10:06.42 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: i do, that's why i got lame |
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| 10:07.47 | ircdevil | can you get "handheld" ogg players ? |
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| 10:08.11 | stonie | ipod may support it soon |
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| 10:08.16 | rage | I know of a couple ircdevil |
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| 10:08.29 | rage | ummm |
| 10:08.36 | stonie | ipodlinux.org |
| 10:08.37 | ircdevil | rage: which brands are they? |
| 10:08.46 | rage | just a moment, finding url for you |
| 10:09.03 | inu | ircdevil, iriver does |
| 10:10.13 | Phated | ircdevil: /msg dpkg vorbis hardware |
| 10:10.28 | rage | ircdevil: It's very expensive though http://www.archos.com/products/overview/pma_400.html |
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| 10:11.07 | ircdevil | rage: ew |
| 10:11.12 | Phated | Ehm, there are plenty of cheapish players on that /msg dpkg vorbis hardware |
| 10:11.21 | ircdevil | hmm ipodlinux looks promicing thou half-baked, so to speak |
| 10:11.29 | ircdevil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:11.46 | rage | Na, I dont beleive the ipod has the grunt to decode ogg in realtime, not yet anyway |
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| 10:12.46 | ircdevil | rage: why would ogg be any different from mp3 to decode - grunt-wise |
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| 10:13.15 | inu | because it requires a more intensive algorithm |
| 10:13.19 | rage | yeah |
| 10:13.35 | PeTeRB | Who had that su issue? |
| 10:13.40 | rage | plus they havent even got mp3 decoding in realtime under linux |
| 10:13.48 | Sparcrypt | PeTeRB: That was me |
| 10:13.55 | PeTeRB | Sparcrypt: |
| 10:13.57 | PeTeRB | oops |
| 10:14.03 | PeTeRB | Sparcrypt: http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0404/msg00443.html |
| 10:14.18 | Sparcrypt | thanks :) |
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| 10:14.26 | PeTeRB | I don't know if that can help, but you could read that thread ;) |
| 10:14.58 | Sparcrypt | Yeah, reading now :) |
| 10:15.07 | PeTeRB | Start from beginning maybe tho |
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| 10:16.56 | priest | xmms is blocking my dsp so any others program can't use dsp, what kind of wrapper should i use? |
| 10:17.38 | PeTeRB | esd, arts, or if you use alsa you could try the dmix plugin |
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| 10:18.48 | priest | i tried to play xmms trough esd, but esd also blocks dsp, so skype couldn't use dsp at the same time? |
| 10:18.54 | tarzeau | haha |
| 10:19.07 | tarzeau | priest: you can't get support for skype here |
| 10:19.24 | priest | no, but for my dsp? ;) |
| 10:19.26 | PeTeRB | priest: You need to get skype to use esd too in that case ;) |
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| 10:19.32 | PeTeRB | priest: What kernel BTW? |
| 10:19.33 | tarzeau | priest: yes honey |
| 10:19.41 | priest | 2.6-k7 |
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| 10:20.04 | PeTeRB | !dmix |
| 10:20.05 | dpkg | from memory, dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf |
| 10:20.41 | supaman | hmm, now i have mounted /proc/bus/usb as a usbfs with ro,user as options (is that not needed?), but there is not devices file in there, why not? |
| 10:20.47 | priest | ok..so i should try dmix then? |
| 10:20.58 | PeTeRB | priest: Why not |
| 10:21.20 | supaman | s/not/no |
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| 10:23.12 | Sparcrypt | PeTeRB: Thanks for the help, got it working now :). |
| 10:23.23 | PeTeRB | peterb++ |
| 10:23.34 | PeTeRB | Bah |
| 10:24.05 | Sparcrypt | I played round with the permissions a while back, in that thread it mentioned the permissions needed to be set to 4755, I'd only set them to 755 |
| 10:24.20 | rituraj | dpkg qemu |
| 10:24.20 | dpkg | rumour has it, qemu is a fast PC emulator that can be found at http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ |
| 10:25.34 | rage | Does anyone know of a simple CLI counter down timer? just give it a date and time and it will count down to it? |
| 10:26.12 | rituraj | dpkg hi |
| 10:26.12 | dpkg | hello, rituraj |
| 10:26.21 | rituraj | dpkg hows u |
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| 10:26.35 | rituraj | dpkg vmware |
| 10:26.35 | dpkg | i heard vmware is for 2.6 kernels, download the patches from ftp://platan.vc.cvut.cz/pub/vmware, read the README, or #vmware, or vmware 5.0 supports 2.6 kernels happily |
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| 10:26.45 | tra1a1a | rituraj: /msg it |
| 10:27.00 | liable | !bot games |
| 10:27.04 | MobyTurbo | !u |
| 10:27.05 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 10:27.09 | liable | bleh |
| 10:27.19 | MobyTurbo | !botabuse |
| 10:27.19 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 10:27.36 | liable | nah, the other, which I cant remeber |
| 10:27.37 | rituraj | tra1a1a: please explian |
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| 10:27.50 | rituraj | do i type dpkg /msg and then message? |
| 10:28.21 | tra1a1a | rituraj: /msg dpkg <whateveryouwant> |
| 10:28.24 | PeTeRB | rituraj: /msg dpkg message |
| 10:29.14 | rage | no cli count down timers? :-( |
| 10:29.18 | rituraj | nothing is displayed when i type "/msg dpkg message" in my gaim |
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| 10:29.30 | liable | rituraj: new window? |
| 10:29.43 | rituraj | should it give new window? |
| 10:29.57 | rituraj | oh ok |
| 10:29.59 | rituraj | :) |
| 10:30.06 | liable | rituraj: /msg dpkg !botabuse |
| 10:30.10 | liable | ffs |
| 10:30.15 | liable | rituraj: /msg dpkg botabuse |
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| 10:30.46 | liable | rituraj: /msg dpkg help |
| 10:31.34 | PeTeRB | rituraj: If it opened a new window, you can input the bot commands in that window without using /msg |
| 10:31.36 | Jon | the url for the dpkg-bot's data is broken |
| 10:32.15 | PeTeRB | Jon: Which url? |
| 10:32.17 | jm_ | Jon: no it's not |
| 10:32.24 | pitillo | in my apache server log i have this entry: "CONNECT 82.96.96.3:802" from 82.96.96.3 anyone know about this? |
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| 10:33.11 | liable | Jon: works here |
| 10:33.15 | tra1a1a | Jon: it wasn't a few days back (5 let's say) |
| 10:33.17 | idnar | pitillo: most likely a proxy tester of some kind |
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| 10:34.26 | pitillo | idnar, yes, but its extrange that try to connect to his proxy from my machine |
| 10:34.31 | mortalman | May seem like a stupid question, but how do I access hidden files/folders on a cdrom. Windows shows them but linux does not. Any ideas?? |
| 10:35.02 | tarzeau | mortalman: what are they called? what filesystem? |
| 10:35.11 | tra1a1a | mortalman: ls -A |
| 10:35.17 | pitillo | mortalman, are you using konqueror to acces to the cdrom? |
| 10:35.18 | tarzeau | mortalman: what broken software are you looking at it with? |
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| 10:35.38 | mortalman | It's an AOL disk. |
| 10:35.41 | mortalman | lol |
| 10:35.51 | paulswm | HAH |
| 10:35.53 | mortalman | I'm using concole. |
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| 10:36.03 | tra1a1a | ah, not again |
| 10:36.04 | tra1a1a | !log |
| 10:36.05 | dpkg | Yeah, big guy, show me your /var/log!, or "It's /var/log, /var/log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! It's /var/log, /var/log, it's better than bad it's good!" |
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| 10:36.07 | tra1a1a | !lol |
| 10:36.08 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a LOLer. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 10:36.17 | mortalman | doh! |
| 10:36.20 | spdf | Zing! |
| 10:36.35 | idnar | pitillo: well, it needs to see whether the connection succeeds or not |
| 10:36.44 | mortalman | Ok, but how do I access these "hidden" files? |
| 10:37.13 | tra1a1a | isn't ls -A showing them? |
| 10:37.17 | mortalman | nope |
| 10:37.21 | pitillo | idnar, thanks, but i dont understand why do that |
| 10:37.58 | PeTeRB | pitillo: BTW does that entry appear once or multiple times? |
| 10:38.12 | pitillo | PeTeRB, multiple times |
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| 10:38.21 | PeTeRB | Ok... |
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| 10:38.23 | pitillo | PeTeRB, one in hour |
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| 10:39.06 | mortalman | It's strange for linux not to be able to read everything on a disk. |
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| 10:40.37 | tra1a1a | mortalman: just imagine that aol has put some fucking exe to read some fucking db file on the cd and this is how it shows some files as hidden. linux would never read that |
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| 10:41.28 | mortalman | No, they are regular hidden files. If I have autorun turned off on windows I can still read the contents of the drive. |
| 10:41.45 | pitillo | another connection :? |
| 10:41.51 | mortalman | I see all the hidden folders. |
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| 10:42.32 | PeTeRB | pitillo: You're not the only one with that issue. Found an IRC log from last year |
| 10:42.37 | tra1a1a | mortalman: if you want to know so badly what's happening try isodump |
| 10:43.12 | pitillo | yeah PeTeRB i read that, and i try to find out another reply but nothig about this problem |
| 10:43.20 | mortalman | isodump is part of what cause apt-cache is coming up with nothin. |
| 10:43.40 | idnar | pitillo: well, it was maybe an IRC network or something that would have denied your connection if it found an "open" proxy, to avoid abuse |
| 10:43.50 | tra1a1a | mortalman: msg dpkg find isodump |
| 10:44.11 | pitillo | idnar, is quite extrange |
| 10:44.24 | Jon | jm_ / liable / tra1a1a : hm sorry ok, I shall re-try. it was when I last looked anyway :-) |
| 10:45.04 | Jon | ah yes it still is, see dpkg blootbot, suggests the archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot |
| 10:45.26 | tra1a1a | Jon: the archive is at my factoids |
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| 10:46.06 | Jon | tra1a1a: sorry, I don't understand 'my factoids'. |
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| 10:46.20 | tra1a1a | Jon: msg dpkg my factoids |
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| 10:46.29 | mortalman | tra1a1a: isodump displayed everything, but it showed a * by the hidden items. |
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| 10:47.20 | tra1a1a | mortalman: so you need to read the section isofs of man mount and google around for how isofs hides files and how to read them |
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| 10:48.01 | pitillo | Freenode might claim that they can do this proxy-detection because your user agreed their EULA |
| 10:48.20 | pitillo | thanks idnar ;) |
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| 10:49.41 | liran_ | does anyone have some experience with working out wireless pcmcia cards? |
| 10:49.51 | liran_ | or usb for that matter |
| 10:50.16 | MobyTurbo | !anyone |
| 10:50.16 | dpkg | it has been said that anyone is ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 10:50.26 | rage | I've had some, anything specific you need help with? |
| 10:50.41 | liran_ | well just how to get it to work |
| 10:50.53 | liran_ | im going to work soon and i have there a pcmcia/usb wireless card though no google to help me work it out |
| 10:51.08 | liran_ | i'd just like to know put up the interface and connect to our wireless router |
| 10:51.24 | liran_ | firstly i should be loading up the module (like prism, orinoco, etc), right? |
| 10:51.44 | tra1a1a | yes, and then use iwconfig |
| 10:51.51 | rage | yup |
| 10:51.51 | liran_ | ok so question |
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| 10:52.01 | liran_ | once i load up the module should i be seeing any enry in ifconfig? |
| 10:52.14 | liran_ | *entry |
| 10:52.15 | catalyst | Hi all, by using the same *pcf font in xterm and gnome-terminal, japanese/chinese characters can only appear on gnome-terminal? Having said that, when I switch xterm to use FIXED font(default), those jap/cn characters did appeared? I'm on locale utf-8 here. |
| 10:52.30 | pitillo | no liran_ |
| 10:52.33 | MobyTurbo | catalyst: try uxterm |
| 10:52.52 | liran_ | ok so loading up the module just gives me access to the wifi card |
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| 10:52.56 | catalyst | MobyTurbo: hmm...can uxterm do transp? :) |
| 10:53.07 | MobyTurbo | catalyst: I don't think so |
| 10:53.09 | liran_ | can i use iwconfig to scan for available ssids to conenct to? |
| 10:53.10 | pitillo | liran_, in iwconfig |
| 10:53.23 | MobyTurbo | catalyst: uxterm is simply xterm with UTF support. |
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| 10:53.27 | rage | catalyst: aterm can but I'm not sure if it does the font thingy |
| 10:53.47 | Jon | tra1a1a: thanks |
| 10:53.52 | PeTeRB | pitillo: If you do a whois on that IP, you get a remark about reading the freenode policy :) |
| 10:54.06 | tra1a1a | liran_: this is an excelent guide for wireless linux. Read it: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ |
| 10:54.10 | pitillo | yes PeTeRB , i do that :P |
| 10:54.26 | devazion | Hi do anybody here know the name of thot boot floppy that I can use for booting from cd? Thanks |
| 10:54.34 | liran_ | thanks |
| 10:54.35 | jm_ | devazion: SBM |
| 10:54.37 | liran_ | im loading it as we speak |
| 10:55.05 | devazion | jm_: thx i will check it out =) |
| 10:55.20 | catalyst | MobyTurbo: not, same issue, jap/cn characters dont appear on it w/ pcf font, of course no problem with fixed font. strange. |
| 10:55.22 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 10:55.22 | dpkg | <veleno> Guerin: i don't know what a moron is. |
| 10:55.52 | devazion | jm_: yeah thats the one =) thanks a lot |
| 10:55.54 | catalyst | rage: can you copy&paste jap/cn characters into it? |
| 10:56.03 | liran_ | tralala: this seems extenssive |
| 10:56.11 | liran_ | tralala: i need some starting guide |
| 10:56.13 | rage | not sure, I'm not actually running aterm on this box, |
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| 10:56.42 | tarzeau | tried terminal.app yet? |
| 10:57.11 | rage | It's a nice speedy transparent terminal in anycase, might be worth your time testing it out |
| 10:57.17 | catalyst | MobyTurbo: btw, my system already running UTF-8. |
| 10:57.26 | tra1a1a | liran_: it is, but you don't need to read everything. Scan through it quickly and pick the things you need. |
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| 10:58.13 | MobyTurbo | catalyst: I really don't have much experience with UTF. |
| 10:58.24 | MobyTurbo | catalyst: other than some display of Hebrew characters |
| 10:58.31 | liran_ | i basically needs just a starter guide for the iwconfig/iwlist tools for getting it to work the software-side |
| 10:58.31 | pitillo | liran_, with iwconfig you can specify the essid |
| 10:58.31 | catalyst | MobyTurbo: np, thanks anyway. |
| 10:58.56 | MobyTurbo | catalyst: yw |
| 10:59.05 | liran_ | my first and basic question is how do i approach the wireless card |
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| 10:59.13 | pitillo | liran_, you need an air sniffer to scan avaibles ssids |
| 10:59.13 | catalyst | MobyTurbo: i just need a terminal that can display chinese/japanese characters with pcf fonts ;) |
| 10:59.24 | liran_ | ok |
| 10:59.28 | MobyTurbo | catalyst: write one. ;) |
| 10:59.29 | tra1a1a | liran_: no, this is what you *think* you need, but when the problems show up you will wish you've read more |
| 10:59.56 | catalyst | MobyTurbo: oh! that's easy to say then write :) |
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| 11:00.19 | kombi | when you do find /dir1/dir2 -someoption, why is /dir1/dir2 found as such? How does one prevent that? |
| 11:00.39 | liran_ | its not about reading, it's that the information is too vast, too many drivers and there's nothing that's specific |
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| 11:00.52 | liran_ | i assume that within a few months when it catches more tightly there will be better guides |
| 11:00.57 | PeTeRB | catalyst: Can you type some Japanese so I can see if I can suggest rxvt-unicode? :) |
| 11:01.05 | j_k | kombi: -not -name dir2 ? |
| 11:01.09 | noogie | How can I gnome on my machine, I have only KDE |
| 11:01.18 | MobyTurbo | catalyst: try kterm or some other terminals I saw in "apt-cache term japanese" |
| 11:01.24 | Overand | noogie: you can have both |
| 11:01.30 | tarzeau | noogie: apt-get install gnome |
| 11:01.36 | kombi | j_k: hmm, I'll try that.. |
| 11:01.39 | tarzeau | noogie: you can also have GNUstep, apt-get install gnustep |
| 11:01.42 | noogie | doesn?t work |
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| 11:01.47 | tarzeau | !doesn't work |
| 11:01.47 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 11:01.56 | tarzeau | noogie: yes gnome and kde metapackages often are broken |
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| 11:02.13 | kombi | j_k: no changes.. |
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| 11:02.35 | tra1a1a | liran_: there are a lot of links inside that are covering specific issues. You *really* need to read it. |
| 11:02.41 | Overand | noogie: is he running stable, sarge, or sid? |
| 11:02.44 | j_k | kombi: note that it's not "options" that follow the directories, but an expression, see the manual page. |
| 11:02.48 | Overand | er, are you |
| 11:02.56 | noogie | if i pasted the error message, would it help? |
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| 11:03.26 | tarzeau | noogie: if we could read mind, you'd not have to paste it |
| 11:03.30 | tra1a1a | if you paste here it will only help you get kicked |
| 11:03.49 | tra1a1a | check /msg dpkg paste |
| 11:03.52 | kombi | j_k: that man page is rather frightning.. what would it be for, say 'find /usr/local/ -mtime -1'? |
| 11:04.04 | Overand | noogie: use pastebin |
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| 11:04.09 | liable | noogie: yes and go to #FLOOD OR PASTEBIN OR WHATEVER |
| 11:04.10 | noogie | so I?ll try to summerize it, give me a sec |
| 11:04.19 | liable | argh caps |
| 11:04.39 | f00bar | my friend (who has an answer for everything) has set up pam so he can su without a password, now I am telling him to use sudo instead because what he is doing is insecure but I want to explain exactly why |
| 11:04.58 | f00bar | anyone got good reasons for why this is bad |
| 11:04.59 | tarzeau | f00bar: funny |
| 11:05.11 | rAz__ | lo, any problem with gtk font scale ? apt-get install xfonts-75dpi-transcoded xfonts-100dpi-transcoded euro-support |
| 11:05.25 | j_k | kombi: find files in /usr/local that were modified tomorrow ? |
| 11:05.31 | liable | rAz__: bts? |
| 11:05.43 | rAz__ | bts=? |
| 11:05.51 | kombi | j_k: younger than a day.. |
| 11:05.52 | j_k | kombi: unlikely to find anything :-) |
| 11:06.01 | PeTeRB | !tell rAz__ about bts |
| 11:06.03 | tra1a1a | f00bar: you could ask him why does he need an user when he can su without a password - he could be using directly root as well. |
| 11:06.10 | liable | its amazing how many people dont know about bts |
| 11:06.17 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 11:06.19 | dpkg | "Linux doesn't exist. Everyone knows Linux is an unlicensed version of Unix." - http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;97798672;fp;2;fpid;1 |
| 11:06.19 | sirv | f00bar: tell him to do a chmod +s /bin/bash |
| 11:06.22 | j_k | kombi: reading the manpage, that should be '-mtime 1' |
| 11:06.23 | f00bar | lol |
| 11:06.30 | rAz__ | k |
| 11:06.41 | tarzeau | sirv: lol |
| 11:06.57 | tra1a1a | !lol |
| 11:06.57 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a honey badger. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
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| 11:07.03 | rAz__ | thx all |
| 11:07.06 | f00bar | the thing is, he wants to know why it will cause him any problems |
| 11:07.06 | tarzeau | !thx |
| 11:07.07 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. |
| 11:07.07 | noogie | The error messages said that i probaly requested a package thet hasn?t been created or moved out of Incoming |
| 11:07.10 | sirv | yehe kill thos honey badger! |
| 11:07.10 | jim | f00bar: if he gets into his own acct without a passwd, he uses that same passwd fro sudo |
| 11:07.13 | kombi | j_k: -mtime -1 finds things well, found it though: it's -mindepth. Thx anyway |
| 11:07.42 | rAz__ | :p |
| 11:07.58 | f00bar | jim: no he has a password to log in to his account |
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| 11:08.21 | tarzeau | f00bar: what about sudo without password? |
| 11:08.28 | tarzeau | f00bar: www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/ see sudoers |
| 11:08.28 | Overand | tarzeau: maybe you should add THC-1138 |
| 11:08.35 | jim | ok, so what did he do, blank root passwd? |
| 11:08.55 | noogie | the error message aslo said that I?m probably using an unstable distro, i?m using knoppin 3.8 CEBIT |
| 11:08.59 | tra1a1a | pam tweaking, jim |
| 11:09.00 | sirv | if he can sudo with his password or login against pam and be able to su without password should be equally safe/unsafe |
| 11:09.10 | sirv | atleast as long as he is allowed to do * in sudo |
| 11:09.12 | liable | noogie: /j #knoppix |
| 11:09.28 | liable | knoppin or whatever |
| 11:09.31 | noogie | knoppix :That channel doesn't exist |
| 11:09.38 | SlayerXP | noogie: /part #debian; /join #knoppix |
| 11:09.39 | Overand | noogie: knoppix is not debian |
| 11:09.52 | noogie | knoppix is based on debian |
| 11:09.54 | tra1a1a | noogie: we don't answer knoppix question here |
| 11:09.56 | Overand | knoppix is 'based on debian' like how movies are 'based on a true story' |
| 11:09.58 | tra1a1a | !be knoppix barbie |
| 11:09.58 | dpkg | Differentiating a Debian derivative from Debian is HARD! |
| 11:10.02 | tarzeau | sirv: doing * is wrong |
| 11:10.02 | liable | !based on debian |
| 11:10.02 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 11:10.10 | SlayerXP | !knoppixsmite noogie |
| 11:10.11 | jim | noogie: but we don't wanna learn it |
| 11:10.31 | tarzeau | !topicbadger |
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| 11:10.36 | rage | Solaris is based on Unix, as it Debian :-) I want solaris support >:( |
| 11:10.39 | Overand | noogie: there's no way for us to know if the problem you're having is knoppix-related or debian-related |
| 11:10.41 | liran_ | does lilo support boot splashscreen? |
| 11:10.41 | sirv | tarzeau: never said it was good, just said aslong as you allow ppl to do * with sudo it's as bad as setting up pam so you can sudo without pass |
| 11:10.42 | Overand | rage: heh |
| 11:10.44 | tarzeau | rage: bullshit |
| 11:10.54 | directhex|work | rage, step 1, delete solaris, step 2, be happy |
| 11:10.58 | Overand | heh |
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| 11:11.02 | Overand | XENIX IS BASED ON UNIX. |
| 11:11.07 | rage | directhex|work: Excellent plan :-D |
| 11:11.07 | Overand | I want *xenix* support |
| 11:11.17 | sirv | I want macosx support! |
| 11:11.25 | tra1a1a | directhex|work: didn't you say you were a solaris admin? |
| 11:11.40 | jim | wow... all the service contract offerings here... |
| 11:11.42 | directhex|work | tra1a1a, i did |
| 11:11.50 | tarzeau | i want pamela anderson to hump me! |
| 11:11.52 | sirv | beeing a solaris admin is fun untill you have to update programs |
| 11:12.02 | tra1a1a | directhex|work: I guess this makes you unhappy then, doesn't it? |
| 11:12.05 | PeTeRB | liran_: Yes |
| 11:12.09 | directhex|work | sirv, it's not fun until that point, it's just less un-fun |
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| 11:12.23 | noogie | for a starter you can talk politly and not sarcasticly, I havn?t insulted any of you personally, and have no intention to, second, I?ll take my chances with your debian answear |
| 11:12.37 | directhex|work | tra1a1a, i prefer to admin the red hat 7.2 machines. |
| 11:12.40 | jim | all you zenix, macos, solaris, knoppix, ozone contractees, I get $150/hour for support... my billing info available upon request :) |
| 11:12.55 | SlayerXP | noogie: okay, our considered Debian Answer is "install debian, then come and ask for help." |
| 11:12.55 | sirv | directhex|work: seriously? solaris boxes just keep going |
| 11:13.00 | f00bar | tarzeau: that's what I have set up, so I can install packages without su |
| 11:13.09 | directhex|work | sirv, you'd be surprised |
| 11:13.23 | tarzeau | !twix |
| 11:13.23 | smo_ | hi i have a problem to connect a pc by ssh,port 22 is listening right on the remote pc but i get connection refused on the client pc |
| 11:13.23 | dpkg | it has been said that twix is the best candy bar on earth. |
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| 11:13.33 | tarzeau | dpkg twix is also http://www.technoidone.de/wallpapers/unix-1024x768.gif |
| 11:13.33 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 11:13.46 | initech | sirv: managing solaris is more painful; but they have capabilities pc servers will most likely never have |
| 11:13.47 | rage | directhex|work: As a solaris admin you'de understand better than most how much of a hell hole using it can be :-) I'm user a solaris user and I hate it :-( |
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| 11:14.00 | directhex|work | noogie, you never said what the problem was though. vagueness is hardly going to help people determine the problem - however, packaging issues on debian derrivatives are almost always because it's not real debian |
| 11:14.10 | tra1a1a | directhex|work: I've seen solaris only once - I guy I know installed it. Looked like shit to me. |
| 11:14.23 | directhex|work | tra1a1a, sounds like you saw right |
| 11:14.23 | tra1a1a | s/I/a/ |
| 11:14.25 | liable | noogie: yes and waste our time, when our debian answer may not work, not being sarcastic, it happens too much, we spend a lot of time trying to figure a problem, then someone says oh, btw I use foo |
| 11:14.30 | PeTeRB | !tell pitillo about away |
| 11:14.35 | tra1a1a | :) |
| 11:14.48 | kombi | jsut why did france vote against the EU constitution.. |
| 11:14.54 | sirv | solaris aint ment to been seen, it's supposed to chug along nice and quiet in a serverpark.. like openbsd ;) |
| 11:14.58 | initech | are there any good channels for pc hardware? the server is too busy to get a channel list right now ... |
| 11:15.10 | directhex|work | initech, #overclockers on quakenet! |
| 11:15.13 | initech | sirv: we have like 100 solaris workstations :) |
| 11:15.24 | tra1a1a | kombi: to make you join #debian and ask off-topic questions |
| 11:15.30 | jim | kombi: #politics is that way --> |
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| 11:15.37 | directhex|work | sirv, sun would have you believe solaris can make toast |
| 11:15.44 | tarzeau | initech: we have 150 debian woody workstations |
| 11:15.48 | sirv | initech: seriously? well it's atleast better than suse workstations ;) |
| 11:15.55 | kombi | tra1a1a: I knew there was a reason.. |
| 11:16.00 | tarzeau | initech: like what capabilities? |
| 11:16.01 | initech | kombi: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/GE28Aa01.html |
| 11:16.13 | tra1a1a | kombi: see? You were right! |
| 11:16.26 | jim | kombi: to get to the other side |
| 11:16.26 | kombi | lol.. |
| 11:16.36 | tra1a1a | !lol |
| 11:16.36 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a linspire user. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 11:16.46 | jim | thst's also why the chicken crossed the road |
| 11:16.56 | initech | tarzeau: oh god, well, hot plugging is taken to an extreme for one. there's nothing like rdac for linux either. |
| 11:17.06 | kombi | jim: lol. |
| 11:17.11 | noogie | I?ll try my luck on the knoppix forums, I?d have thanked you but instead of help or advice i was sarcasticly sent away. guys this isn?t the way to help people, especially people how are new to linux |
| 11:17.15 | initech | tarzeau: tho I still prefer linux myself |
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| 11:17.27 | liable | sheesh |
| 11:17.43 | Overand | Notorious: THIS ISN'T |
| 11:17.43 | Overand | oh |
| 11:17.46 | Overand | he's gone |
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| 11:18.57 | directhex|work | dpkg, fuck off is <reply> We aren't here to "help people". We're here to help Debian users who are capable of independant thought. We expect you to put in some basic legwork - reading man pages, checking google, before flooding a very busy channel with simple questions. And NO, we DON'T support "...based on Debian". If you can't cope with that, fuck off. |
| 11:19.04 | directhex|work | gah |
| 11:19.05 | directhex|work | stupid bot |
| 11:19.12 | tadhg | hi all |
| 11:19.19 | tadhg | i would like to load the module hp-backend |
| 11:19.26 | tadhg | so i type modprobe |
| 11:19.29 | sirv | dpkg - directhex|work : 1 - 0 |
| 11:19.34 | tadhg | but after reading the net i cant figure what next |
| 11:19.43 | tarzeau | initech: ah if you need it. we don't :) |
| 11:19.50 | sirv | modprobe hp-backend |
| 11:19.50 | directhex|work | tadhg, modprobe hp-backend? |
| 11:19.50 | sirv | ? |
| 11:19.56 | tarzeau | initech: what solaris version do you got? and what hardware? |
| 11:20.13 | directhex|work | all solaris versions are bad |
| 11:20.13 | tadhg | FATAL: Module hp_backend not found |
| 11:20.25 | directhex|work | simply, solaris 10 is slightly less bad than 8 |
| 11:20.26 | tadhg | directhex|work, yeah, i tried that |
| 11:20.27 | initech | mostly 8, some 9. blade workstations and some 420's and 220's, two 880's |
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| 11:20.43 | rage | How does Solaris do package management? |
| 11:20.50 | initech | rage: like crap |
| 11:20.55 | directhex|work | rage, with difficulty |
| 11:20.58 | rage | thought as much |
| 11:21.01 | tarzeau | initech: do you know OPENSTEP for on top of Solaris? |
| 11:21.06 | tarzeau | rage: it sucks |
| 11:21.09 | initech | tarzeau: no |
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| 11:21.12 | tarzeau | rage: www.linuks.mine.nu/solaris/ |
| 11:21.13 | sirv | wtf? you even call what solaris does as package management? |
| 11:21.19 | kneet | rage, sysadmin here says it does it "by hand" |
| 11:21.30 | directhex|work | rage, default install of solaris 10 is 5.5gb, with no firewall :) |
| 11:21.31 | rage | hehe |
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| 11:21.51 | directhex|work | rage, and you can't remove packages from the default set, because it realises but doesn't fix dependancy issues |
| 11:21.58 | initech | most people I've seen wind up compiling software on the server and constantly recompiling and upgrading for security. it's a mess |
| 11:22.03 | paulswm | My biggest irritation is that Solaris grep is bog standard and doesn't have recursion |
| 11:22.05 | rage | ugh |
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| 11:22.29 | tadhg | should i put this module somewhere on the local disk? |
| 11:22.36 | initech | paulswm: same for awk, sed, ls, df, du ad infinitum ... |
| 11:22.43 | rage | Yeah, the first thing I did on the solaris box I'm on is put the standard GNU utils on |
| 11:23.01 | lankou | hello |
| 11:23.14 | bbrazil | tarzeau: you know about blastwave.org, right? |
| 11:23.18 | paulswm | initech: Indeed, but the grep irritation is the most frequent for me :) |
| 11:23.19 | tarzeau | bbrazil: yes |
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| 11:23.26 | tarzeau | bbrazil: i'd rather have apt-get/dpkg for it |
| 11:23.32 | tarzeau | bbrazil: same crap like fink |
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| 11:23.43 | tarzeau | bbrazil: ever built a package? actually i tried some automatisation: |
| 11:23.54 | bbrazil | tarzeau: yes, thats what we use here |
| 11:24.08 | kombi | initech: quite some article.. I like the part: "George W Bush will be delighted by the failure of the European constitution", but that should be enough OT for me.. |
| 11:24.15 | rage | Just so many... small... annoying things with the Solaris standard utils, date cant return a unix time stamp for example :-( |
| 11:24.16 | paulswm | Actually, the admins have put some GNU stuff like bash in /usr/local/bin on the Solaris boxes |
| 11:24.17 | bbrazil | tarzeau: got a script you alter that produces a package |
| 11:24.28 | tarzeau | bbrazil: you have that too? |
| 11:24.32 | jim | I've got someone I'm trying to help with grub; he's trying to install grub on his sata drive, called /dev/sda but he gets... |
| 11:24.38 | tarzeau | bbrazil: hehe i made some for mysef :) |
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| 11:24.54 | initech | kombi: atimes usually has good articles ... |
| 11:24.56 | happymac | Cindyy, is a porn bot |
| 11:24.58 | [A]ndy80 | hi |
| 11:24.59 | jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:25.16 | bbrazil | tarzeau: we mostly use blastwave if it and sfw doesn't have it we compile and package it ourselves (expect php+apache which we do ourselves) |
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| 11:25.44 | directhex|work | solaris only approaches usable when one replaces all the sun tools with GNU tools |
| 11:25.46 | [A]ndy80 | I've a problem with my wireless card. It works fine but this thing happens: every time I boot my notebook, the wifi card is configured on eth1 or eth2... it changes randomly. How can I set a fix device? thanks |
| 11:25.50 | directhex|work | and at that stage, why are you using solaris? |
| 11:25.53 | jim | he also has an hda which he's going to remove before booting |
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| 11:27.04 | rage | directhex|work: Agreed, ugh, took me ages to get colour working in terminal apps |
| 11:27.24 | directhex|work | rage, which fuckwad made "ed" the default editor? |
| 11:27.36 | rage | The admins of the box I'm on dont allow us to change shells either :-( |
| 11:27.38 | tarzeau | bbrazil: what does your company do? |
| 11:27.40 | liable | !ops Cindyy onjoin pornbot |
| 11:27.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Cindyy onjoin pornbot |
| 11:27.48 | rage | I'm stuck with TCSH, :-( |
| 11:28.01 | js_ | eww |
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| 11:28.17 | Frostbite | Is it possible to make rsync or rdiff-backup maintain source permissions during a backup and not just set all files as owned by the backup user? |
| 11:28.38 | rage | I put bash in my .login but ugh, its just not the same |
| 11:28.44 | tadhg | ok, still wondering, maybe its very simple but can't anybody tell me in one line or less, why modprobe hp-backend doesnt work? |
| 11:28.50 | Zvpun | is someone using net-tools version 1.60-10 and can give me a 'md5sum /sbin/ifconfig'? |
| 11:29.00 | tarzeau | rage: chsh ? |
| 11:29.12 | rage | not there :-( |
| 11:29.15 | tarzeau | tadhg: what does it say? modinfo hp-backend ? |
| 11:29.19 | rage | not on this server |
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| 11:29.41 | tadhg | tarzeau, thx, it says modinfo: could not find module hp-backend |
| 11:29.56 | tadhg | but that is built into sane i thought |
| 11:29.58 | bbrazil | tarzeau: netsoc.tcd.ie, student networking society |
| 11:30.00 | tarzeau | !thx |
| 11:30.00 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. |
| 11:30.14 | tarzeau | bbrazil: do you plan a move to debian? |
| 11:30.15 | jim | rage: you're not stuck with tcsh as anything but your login shell |
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| 11:30.31 | tadhg | tarzeau, thanks :) |
| 11:30.39 | rage | yeah I know, just annoying to have to log out twice :-( |
| 11:30.44 | jm_ | jim: tried using --recheck with grub-install? |
| 11:30.49 | tarzeau | rage: know exec bash? |
| 11:30.54 | bbrazil | tarzeau: no, all our other systems are debian but sun gave the various networking socities E450s and mightn't like it if we changed the OS |
| 11:30.55 | rage | already done |
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| 11:31.16 | Zvpun | is someone using net-tools version 1.60-10 and can give me a 'md5sum /sbin/ifconfig'? |
| 11:31.17 | jim | jm_ no... |
| 11:31.18 | karsten | !ops join spam from Cindyy |
| 11:31.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: join spam from Cindyy |
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| 11:32.07 | js_ | Zvpun: 628d08d776c70929dce7ffaabf1749f1 /sbin/ifconfig |
| 11:32.12 | rage | 628d08d776c70929dce7ffaabf1749f1 /sbin/ifconfig |
| 11:33.06 | K_Dallas | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:33.14 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: x? console? what? |
| 11:33.24 | K_Dallas | in firefox for instance |
| 11:33.36 | Zvpun | Thanks |
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| 11:33.55 | Zvpun | chroots says that ifconfig is modified |
| 11:34.23 | Zvpun | can you verify that? (Is it a false positive?) apt-get install chkrootkit && chkrootkit |
| 11:34.39 | rage | Zvpun: one moment |
| 11:34.44 | K_Dallas | i have languages selection icon on my bottom task bar but it only gives one font which is not perfect |
| 11:35.13 | rage | Checking `ifconfig'... not infected |
| 11:35.24 | Zvpun | very stange |
| 11:35.26 | Zvpun | strange |
| 11:35.38 | rage | indeed |
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| 11:36.37 | sirv | is there a debianiso for sarge yet (install..)? |
| 11:36.45 | tarzeau | !d-i |
| 11:36.46 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 11:36.55 | liable | PeTeRB: couldnt help yourself eh? :) |
| 11:36.56 | sirv | thx |
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| 11:37.00 | Zvpun | what does ls -l /usr/bin/md5sum tell you? |
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| 11:37.32 | rage | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19352 Feb 11 02:30 /usr/bin/md5sum |
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| 11:38.41 | Zvpun | mine is different |
| 11:38.43 | Zvpun | -rwxr-xr-x 1 122 114 31452 Feb 10 16:30 /usr/bin/md5sum |
| 11:38.49 | rage | mmmm odd |
| 11:39.00 | Zvpun | i dont find the package md5sum belongs to |
| 11:39.05 | Zvpun | I want to check versions |
| 11:39.13 | seldon | dpkg |
| 11:39.20 | PeTeRB | Does using Gimp on a 100MHz box makes me a masochist? |
| 11:39.31 | K_Dallas | lol |
| 11:39.32 | K_Dallas | !lol |
| 11:39.32 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a ubuntu user. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 11:39.38 | rage | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19352 Feb 11 02:30 /usr/bin/md5sum <-- another box of mine |
| 11:39.39 | sirv | PeTeRB: no, just silly |
| 11:39.46 | rage | err wait |
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| 11:39.54 | f00bar | aha, my friends reason why he doesn't just log in as root: "I'm not running X as root!" |
| 11:39.57 | Zvpun | What version of dpkg do you have install? I have 1.10.27 |
| 11:39.57 | rage | yup, thats off another box of mine |
| 11:39.58 | f00bar | :) |
| 11:39.59 | bbrazil | Zvpun: you definitly have a problem there |
| 11:40.01 | Bazzi | !rofl |
| 11:40.02 | dpkg | methinks rofl is Rolling Over Fat Lesbian |
| 11:40.13 | K_Dallas | greycat is now a ubuntu killer :) |
| 11:40.14 | Zvpun | bbrazil: I know but I dont want to accept it |
| 11:40.20 | rage | Version: 1.10.27 |
| 11:40.21 | rage | yup |
| 11:40.31 | bbrazil | Zvpun: remove yourself from the internet and rebuild |
| 11:40.34 | seldon | Zvpun: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 25608 May 26 22:26 /usr/bin/md5sum here |
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| 11:40.43 | Zvpun | I dont have no space on my harddisk |
| 11:40.51 | Zvpun | I dont have time either |
| 11:40.54 | Zvpun | shit happens |
| 11:40.56 | K_Dallas | delete some movies ;) |
| 11:41.00 | rage | Good luck Zvpun. Got to go |
| 11:41.00 | Zvpun | no movies |
| 11:41.04 | Zvpun | thanks |
| 11:41.05 | K_Dallas | just kidding |
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| 11:42.07 | Zvpun | Can I save a log of this chat in irssi? How? |
| 11:42.19 | tarzeau | Zvpun: /lastlog -file the.log |
| 11:42.24 | jm_ | Zvpun: you have my permission - /help lastlog |
| 11:42.28 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 11:42.28 | dpkg | well, qotd73 is <wokker> initech, i thought greycat disliked him as well, but then i read that he wanted to lick him ... i was most confused |
| 11:42.51 | jovan | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
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| 11:44.18 | Zvpun | thanks |
| 11:44.19 | oppoziee | can anyone explain me the error "mgmt tx queue is still full" with an NetGear wg511 (Rev.1) prism54 pcmcia wlan card? |
| 11:44.19 | ac3 | Anyone uses courier-imap on debian sarge? |
| 11:44.59 | directhex|work | oh, be on the lookout for people with busted 3d support, xfree86 was updated lately so anyone who didn't follow proper procedure with drivers will have problems |
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| 11:46.05 | colter | ac3: I tried it, but had problems authenticating to a pgsql database. I switched to dovecot, and after initial use regret using courier for 2 yrs |
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| 11:48.51 | doub | hi evrybody |
| 11:49.03 | tarzeau | doub: hi honey |
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| 11:49.14 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
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| 11:50.06 | doub | tarzeau: seems like everybody's asleep |
| 11:50.27 | tarzeau | doub: no, there's just no questions open |
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| 11:53.15 | Phated | ... Lame. |
| 11:53.32 | joel_ | oohh I gonna check out cindy |
| 11:53.48 | joel_ | damn, 404 :( |
| 11:53.50 | tarzeau | joel_: try google pictures |
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| 11:53.54 | liable | shit, cant even get an op in #freenode :( |
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| 11:54.15 | tarzeau | liable: i can't even get IN #freenode (channel limit sux0rs) |
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| 11:54.24 | joel_ | tarzeau: for what, why? |
| 11:54.55 | liable | tarzeau: let me in *shrug* must be full of people whinging about cindy :) |
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| 11:55.09 | tarzeau | joel_: http://www.pepsi.as.ro/wallpapers/Cindy.jpg |
| 11:55.30 | joel_ | yea yea, funny guy |
| 11:55.32 | chealer | directhex|work: I didn't upgrade yet. is something special with -13? where's the procedure? |
| 11:55.34 | joel_ | wasting my bloody time |
| 11:55.58 | liable | joel_: yes thats what irc is all about :) |
| 11:56.01 | Tsun | hi all, how can i modify the characters enlargment in grub ? (sth like in lilo vga=792) |
| 11:56.22 | tarzeau | Tsun: same, it-s just kernel parameters, isn't it? |
| 11:56.50 | Tsun | tarzeau: it mean that it depend from the kernel ? |
| 11:56.58 | tarzeau | Tsun: yes |
| 11:57.04 | tarzeau | Tsun: oh wait |
| 11:57.13 | tarzeau | Tsun: maybe it's a lilo-only ugly-hack |
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| 11:57.30 | liable | Tsun: you want bigger? |
| 11:57.44 | Tsun | liable: i want smaller |
| 11:58.02 | liable | Tsun: in grub, just append to the kernel line vga=792 |
| 11:58.27 | Tsun | liable: i can change this line ? |
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| 11:58.46 | inu | no, he told you to do it because you can't. |
| 11:58.46 | liable | Tsun: vi /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 11:58.52 | liable | Tsun: yes |
| 11:58.52 | Bazile | bonjour tt le monde |
| 11:59.00 | js_ | !debian-fr |
| 11:59.00 | dpkg | methinks debian-fr is an association giving you some documentation: http://www.debian-fr.org/ |
| 11:59.03 | Bazile | pas de français? |
| 11:59.06 | js_ | uhh |
| 11:59.15 | PeTeRB | !fr |
| 11:59.15 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 11:59.15 | tarzeau | !fr |
| 11:59.16 | liable | !fr |
| 11:59.22 | Bazile | !fr |
| 11:59.25 | Bazile | :p |
| 11:59.35 | PeTeRB | Heh |
| 11:59.39 | Tsun | liable: i've just to add this line ? |
| 11:59.45 | doub | Bazile: si, mais on parle uniquement anglais ici |
| 11:59.47 | Phated | 2 |
| 11:59.51 | Phated | Whoops. |
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| 12:00.03 | liable | Tsun: append it to the kernel line, leave a space and add it |
| 12:00.06 | Bazile | OK |
| 12:00.09 | tarzeau | Bazile: je suis une petite citrone |
| 12:00.14 | Bazile | ^^ |
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| 12:01.07 | jethro | !irritate yab |
| 12:01.08 | dpkg | yab: hi every1 who uses gnome hello? |
| 12:01.09 | directhex|work | chealer, did you use the nvidia-glx or flavio stanchina packages for your card? |
| 12:01.09 | Tsun | liable: from what it can depend when i reboot sarge i cannot see anything |
| 12:01.12 | liable | Tsun: as such kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11.7-1 root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=834 |
| 12:01.25 | tarzeau | !anyone |
| 12:01.25 | dpkg | i heard anyone is ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 12:01.28 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 12:01.29 | dpkg | hmm... qotd36 is < pder> will debian run on a computer system? |
| 12:01.38 | liable | Tsun: of course whatever changes is applicable |
| 12:01.52 | Bazile | how to mnt an usb external hard drive? |
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| 12:01.56 | jmob|L | !irritate jmob|L |
| 12:01.59 | dpkg | jmob|L: Y iz debain so old? who uses dvd thx |
| 12:02.08 | tarzeau | Bazile: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ? |
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| 12:02.15 | Tsun | uhm i'll try |
| 12:02.17 | karl_ | I need a a database designer for postgres Any ideas? |
| 12:02.34 | jmob|L | Bazile: run dmesg to see what device it got assigned |
| 12:02.38 | liable | Tsun: or append vga=ask |
| 12:02.51 | ac3 | colter: is dovecot better than courier-imap? |
| 12:02.55 | jethro | !fruitsmite paulswm |
| 12:02.58 | jmob|L | Bazile: then ``mount /dev/sdXY /some/mnt/point" |
| 12:03.07 | jethro | ac3: it all depends on what ths host OS is |
| 12:03.18 | colter | ac3: I really liked it. It's much more configurable |
| 12:03.21 | jethro | ac3: dovecot on openbsd sucks goats and is slow as hell |
| 12:03.21 | jmob|L | Bazile: or you could use Ubuntu and have it automatically mounted for you |
| 12:03.50 | Tsun | liable: i add the line vga=792 but i reboot and i don't see any changment |
| 12:04.17 | tarzeau | jmob|L: you should also mention he gets no more support here, if he got ubuntu |
| 12:04.17 | liable | Tsun: stock kernel? |
| 12:04.24 | ac3 | I´m using debian sarge |
| 12:04.26 | tarzeau | jethro: and i'll pimp GNUstep |
| 12:04.34 | jethro | tarzeau: you do it all the time aleady :) |
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| 12:04.40 | jethro | s/ale/alre/ |
| 12:04.41 | jmob|L | tarzeau: That's a bad thing? |
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| 12:04.56 | tarzeau | jmob|L: yes |
| 12:05.05 | jethro | jmob|L: yes because #ubuntu never knows anything and most of the ubuntards have to ask here |
| 12:05.14 | liable | Tsun: paste your kernel line here, just the one line |
| 12:05.20 | tarzeau | jethro: hahah you said that so beautiful |
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| 12:06.08 | jmob|L | gee the new newegg interface is pretty slick... |
| 12:06.10 | liable | ubuntu here is getting to be a touchy subject :( |
| 12:06.39 | jmob|L | kinna like knoppix |
| 12:07.04 | jethro | tarzeau: you're late at mpimping GNUstep |
| 12:07.10 | Tsun | liable: the kernel is 2.6.8-2.686 |
| 12:07.36 | tarzeau | http://livecd.gnustep.org/ Deluxe Gold version out now! For Free! |
| 12:07.40 | Bazile | thanks everybody, it works :) |
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| 12:07.43 | K_Dallas | how long does it take to see new kernels in sid? |
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| 12:07.52 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: can happen any time |
| 12:07.59 | K_Dallas | good :) |
| 12:08.04 | Bazile | thanks doub |
| 12:08.11 | doub | K_Dallas: just time for the kernel team to put it in, i guess |
| 12:08.16 | doub | Bazile: np |
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| 12:08.23 | K_Dallas | hopefully |
| 12:08.39 | cheale1 | directhex|work: nvidia-glx...I never heard about flavio stanchina |
| 12:08.44 | jmob|L | jethro: so is there anything wrong with "ubuntards" asking here if it's not an Ubuntu specific question? |
| 12:08.50 | remmy_ | this might be a stupid question but what setting can you change in KDE to disable icon text wrapping? |
| 12:09.01 | tarzeau | jmob|L: it can be, yes |
| 12:09.05 | K_Dallas | i am just wondering if new kernels keep the preceding drivers in them or they do their own selection |
| 12:09.14 | liable | Tsun: only one kernel on the box? |
| 12:09.17 | doub | K_Dallas: but as the kernel is getting more and more unstable, as they stand on the fact that it's a distribution's job to make it stable, it might take time |
| 12:09.17 | directhex|work | chealer, if you used nvidia-glx, then there is nothing to worry about. if you used nvidia-installer from nvidia.com, you'd be fecked |
| 12:09.23 | sirv | jmob|L: is this channel named #ubunto, #debian or #generallinuxquestions |
| 12:09.25 | jethro | jmob|L: yes tehre is. if you run ubuntu, and have a problem, and get a debian answer, the debian answer will in most cases not fix your non debian problem |
| 12:09.32 | K_Dallas | doub, i see |
| 12:09.32 | tarzeau | jmob|L: if ubuntu software is broken, and doesn't work like it does on debian. then questions can get fuckingly annoying |
| 12:09.40 | tarzeau | sirv: too hard a question! |
| 12:09.49 | cheal | directhex|work: oh, cool. do you know what will be the diagnosis? |
| 12:09.50 | sirv | tarzeau: ;) |
| 12:09.51 | jmob|L | jethro: I mean, Ubuntu isn't Debian derived afaik, it's a Debian meta-distro |
| 12:09.59 | K_Dallas | jmob|L, ask your question and make sure you do not mention ubuntu ;) |
| 12:10.04 | jethro | !based on debian |
| 12:10.04 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 12:10.05 | tarzeau | !ubuntu |
| 12:10.05 | dpkg | well, ubuntu is ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879, or "Based on Debian" like Hollywood movies are "Based on a true story", or I'm not Debian but I play one on TV. |
| 12:10.10 | Tsun | liable: i cannot follow your speech i don't understand what do you mean just one kernel in the box |
| 12:10.12 | jethro | jmob|L: you should know better |
| 12:10.12 | jmob|L | K_Dallas: that's what I was thinking |
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| 12:10.16 | liable | !they dont know |
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| 12:10.23 | liable | bleh |
| 12:10.25 | K_Dallas | that is what i do in ubuntu chan ;) |
| 12:10.33 | liable | Tsun: new install? |
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| 12:10.39 | Tsun | yes |
| 12:10.52 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 12:10.52 | dpkg | <feerf> ok, the main think that does not work in Woody is that Woody is way too old (like museum now) |
| 12:11.02 | cheal | directhex|work: I mean for those that used nvidia-installer |
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| 12:11.09 | jmob|L | sirv: this channel does look likes it's name #debian , I don't get it |
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| 12:11.16 | jethro | !they don't know |
| 12:11.16 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 12:11.18 | liable | Tsun: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst |grep kernel paste the line here |
| 12:11.24 | jethro | liable: that's the one you wanted :) |
| 12:11.36 | directhex|work | cheal, sign of infection is glxinfo returning mesa as the glx driver, though effectively anyone whose 3d has "stopped working" or "gone slow" and who previously used nvidia-installer is affected |
| 12:11.42 | tarzeau | liable: don't forget |head -1 |
| 12:11.43 | fialar | is it normal for debian to always put a black "X" on the screen even after GNOME has loaded? It's really weird. |
| 12:11.51 | K_Dallas | :) you entertin youself with all these quotes :) |
| 12:11.53 | directhex|work | !tell cheal about why nvidia-installer sucks |
| 12:11.57 | directhex|work | ^^ the above has come to pass |
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| 12:11.59 | liable | jethro: heh, damn ' guerin is always on to me about that too :) |
| 12:12.00 | fialar | it looks like the 'X' that appears when you start X w/o a window manager |
| 12:12.00 | tarzeau | fialar: that's X, not debian |
| 12:12.07 | jmob|L | tarzeau: I dunno, I get the feeling that #debian-ites are a little uptight |
| 12:12.13 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: yes honey |
| 12:12.19 | K_Dallas | ;) |
| 12:12.20 | jethro | K_Dallas: 14:10:00 K_Dallas | jmob|L, ask your question and make sure you do not mention ubuntu ;) <<< WRONG !! make sure you actually RUN debian instead, or get lost |
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| 12:12.29 | K_Dallas | who had the problem with center X? |
| 12:12.33 | fialar | me |
| 12:12.33 | Tsun | liable: with the string kernel you mean the version of mine ? |
| 12:12.39 | tarzeau | jmob|L: you should stay longer, and learn different |
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| 12:12.50 | fialar | constant black 'X' in the middle of the screen.. always on top |
| 12:12.56 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 12:12.56 | dpkg | <mrvn> Broadcast message from root (Sat Aug 7 05:48:42 2004): <mrvn> The system is going down for system halt NOW! <mrvn> What the fuck is dselect/dpkg doing a reboot for? <trave11er> mrvn: for changes to take effect? ;-) <StevenK> mrvn: You *had* to move the mouse, didn't you? <mrvn> StevenK: damn, yes. I accidentally pushed it. |
| 12:13.01 | tarzeau | fialar: screenshot? |
| 12:13.06 | K_Dallas | jethro, i know, but you admit too that many questions are common like this center X which i never got an answer for here but i got the solution in ubuntu |
| 12:13.10 | fialar | tarzeau: one sec I'll take one |
| 12:13.15 | liable | tarzeau: with the actual line that you edited |
| 12:13.21 | jethro | K_Dallas: center what? |
| 12:13.25 | karl__ | how can I launch an application in an ssh session and then logout with the application runinig in background |
| 12:13.35 | K_Dallas | center of the screen when i logged into kde |
| 12:13.37 | tarzeau | karl__: non-x app? |
| 12:13.37 | K_Dallas | or gnome |
| 12:13.38 | liable | Tsun: /j #flood |
| 12:13.39 | K_Dallas | or xfce |
| 12:13.46 | tarzeau | karl__: run it in screen, or /msg dpkg nohup |
| 12:14.29 | jmob|L | tarzeau: Alright, I'll stay until I have to pick up my gf from the airport, maybe we'll see something that'll help me understand otherwise |
| 12:14.29 | jethro | K_Dallas: to get answers in #debian you need to know about !smart questions |
| 12:14.29 | tarzeau | jmob|L: hopefully. which country? |
| 12:14.30 | jethro | K_Dallas: that might explain why you didn't get any in #d, but got one in #ubuntu |
| 12:14.30 | K_Dallas | ok :) mine was pretty smart ;) |
| 12:14.31 | karl__ | tarzeau: yes - an x app |
| 12:14.33 | tarzeau | !seen greycat |
| 12:14.35 | dpkg | greycat <rfc1413@wooledge.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 4d 15h 33m 2s ago, saying: 'caonex: well, you have to fix your configuration.'. |
| 12:14.40 | tarzeau | karl__: oh that's not so easy then |
| 12:14.46 | jethro | I miss greycat :| |
| 12:14.49 | K_Dallas | and imo is a bug in the installtion or configuration, the auto thing |
| 12:14.49 | tarzeau | karl__: just lock the screen? say xtrlock? |
| 12:15.00 | jethro | K_Dallas: then file a bug report |
| 12:15.06 | Bazile | hummm do you know how to force the screen resolution? |
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| 12:15.11 | tarzeau | jethro: i wonder what happened to him. he only said he'll stay away the day sarge is released |
| 12:15.14 | Bazile | i have a 17" screen |
| 12:15.28 | Bazile | and can't have a resolution up than 800x600 |
| 12:15.29 | jethro | tarzeau: I was rather bored iirc |
| 12:15.35 | bbrazil | Bazile: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (IIRC) |
| 12:15.45 | cheal | directhex|work: thanks |
| 12:15.48 | tarzeau | jethro: i'm tired as hell. and hungry too |
| 12:15.53 | Bazile | thanks bbrazil |
| 12:15.54 | liable | Tsun: dont irc as root, /exit |
| 12:16.05 | K_Dallas | fialar, here is how to remove that X, edit your XF86Config-4 to have this line: |
| 12:16.08 | K_Dallas | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:16.09 | jethro | tarzeau: tired of #debian? |
| 12:16.16 | K_Dallas | under: Section "Device" |
| 12:16.18 | tarzeau | jethro: no physically |
| 12:16.22 | resiak | bbrazil: dpkg has !drxx foo to say foo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # as root |
| 12:16.26 | tarzeau | jethro: still. from sunday grilling at the lake |
| 12:16.30 | jethro | tarzeau: quit playing bubnbros at nights |
| 12:16.33 | karl__ | tarzeau: no xlclock for examle |
| 12:16.34 | jethro | :) |
| 12:16.36 | tarzeau | jethro: haha. |
| 12:16.45 | tarzeau | karl__: xlocktr |
| 12:17.00 | fialar | ahhhh |
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| 12:17.04 | fialar | thanks K_Dallas |
| 12:17.06 | karl__ | tarzeau: xclock I mean |
| 12:17.09 | K_Dallas | np |
| 12:17.12 | bbrazil | resiak: I forgot exactly what that factoid did, and sometimes I'm a tradationalist ;) |
| 12:17.14 | fialar | the X does not show up in any screen shot (not with import -window root) |
| 12:17.19 | tarzeau | karl__: xtrlock even |
| 12:17.29 | tarzeau | karl__: xclock is a clock. you want to lock your screen |
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| 12:17.38 | tarzeau | fialar: hm :( |
| 12:17.46 | liable | Tsun2: dude, /topic, dont fucking /msg me without askig |
| 12:17.47 | K_Dallas | fialar, didnt try that :) i was only able to remove it in gnome by dragging a term window over |
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| 12:18.00 | K_Dallas | which did not work in xfce |
| 12:18.08 | silenius | re |
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| 12:18.26 | fialar | K_Dallas: this goes under section "Device" (video card) right? |
| 12:18.31 | K_Dallas | right |
| 12:18.45 | karl__ | tarzeau: No I do not want to lock the terminal I just need to remotly execute an aplication on display I am working on |
| 12:19.02 | jmob|L | tarzeau: usa |
| 12:19.04 | tarzeau | karl__: well there's ctrl-z and disown |
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| 12:19.56 | polok | anybody know of a decent rss viewer? |
| 12:20.07 | tarzeau | polok: rssreader.app |
| 12:20.16 | K_Dallas | polok, there are extension in firefox and opera supports it natively |
| 12:20.21 | Bazile | i can't sellect a screen resolution up than 800x600 :( |
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| 12:20.32 | supaman | polok: or straw |
| 12:20.41 | Bazile | and on my debian computer i have a 3dfx... |
| 12:20.50 | K_Dallas | Bazile, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 12:20.52 | tarzeau | Bazile: which video driver?what card? how much memory? |
| 12:21.07 | Dewi | can anybody tell me how to make a USB storage device appear under /proc/scsi? |
| 12:21.13 | Bazile | that's the problem, i have an old one |
| 12:21.22 | fialar | Dewi: modprobe usb_storage |
| 12:21.30 | Bazile | so i don't know all those things |
| 12:21.35 | kensuke | hello world |
| 12:21.53 | tarzeau | kensuke: hello honey |
| 12:21.57 | supaman | Bazile: if it is a pci card, then lspci should give you the type of card |
| 12:22.10 | Bazile | oki thx supa |
| 12:22.16 | Dewi | fialar: nah, still not there |
| 12:22.41 | tarzeau | _cow: moo |
| 12:22.44 | PeTeRB | kensuke: Hello. We are the 749 chosen ones. |
| 12:22.45 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 12:22.45 | dpkg | qotd52 is, like, <sideone> ricky_clarkson: i try to give all women a chance, until they blow it. |
| 12:22.54 | kensuke | does anyone have any suggestions as to shaping peer-to-peer traffic (pref debian package) |
| 12:23.05 | kensuke | hehe |
| 12:23.09 | kensuke | 749 |
| 12:23.11 | petemc | kensuke: wondershaper |
| 12:23.14 | SlayerXP | kensuke: use iptables to shape it all into /dev/null |
| 12:23.34 | kensuke | SlayerXP: lol, oh if it were so easy |
| 12:23.42 | K_Dallas | i was trying the other day to connect my camrecorder thru pinaccle usb-linx and use it under linux however whatever i did i could not make /dev/video0 even though i ran MAKEDEV and it said it had created it. any help with that? |
| 12:23.57 | kensuke | SlayerXP: well it is ... but thats not quite what our client wants :-) |
| 12:24.12 | fialar | K_Dallas: that did the trick, many thanks!~ |
| 12:24.20 | geemark | is there any easy way to copy an entire file in VIM (xterm) to the clipboard? |
| 12:24.21 | K_Dallas | good :) |
| 12:24.48 | fialar | K_Dallas: I guess for some bizarre reason the savage X driver enabled the HW_Cursor by default |
| 12:24.50 | bbrazil | geemark: what are you trying to do? |
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| 12:25.05 | K_Dallas | fialar, possible, i have a savage one too :) |
| 12:25.06 | jethro | !wb PerfDave |
| 12:25.08 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! PerfDave has returned! |
| 12:25.15 | fialar | K_Dallas: :) |
| 12:25.28 | Dewi | how do I tell the difference between a /dev node that has something connected to it, and an empty mknod'd node with no hardware behind it? |
| 12:25.38 | jethro | Dewi: read dmesg |
| 12:25.44 | geemark | bbrazil: I need to copy the entire file so I can paste it into a wiki |
| 12:25.48 | jethro | Dewi: you can't, just looking at the files |
| 12:26.14 | resiak | Dewi: Or use udev, which only creates nodes when the device is present. |
| 12:26.26 | bbrazil | geemark: firefox has an extension for that. From past experiance what you want isn't possible |
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| 12:26.54 | bbrazil | geemark: try opening the file in anything-but-xterm (say firefox) and copying from there |
| 12:27.21 | kensuke | petemc: what is this wondershaper you speak of ? will it be able to shape traffic based on header information ? This p2p kak is hopping ports ... so its hard to shape... to stop its easy ... but to shape is a mofo |
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| 12:27.44 | doub | just a little OT question: can't a DNS server admin mess up joyfully the whole DNS system? just as in: use records for domains he doesn't own |
| 12:27.54 | PeTeRB | geemark: Why not just select the whole thing and paste? |
| 12:27.57 | PerfDave | doub: No, because his DNS server won't be authoritative for that domain. |
| 12:27.58 | resiak | geemark: One way is to use gvim. |
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| 12:28.24 | bbrazil | geemark: ah, mozex |
| 12:28.31 | kensuke | doub: It would make a mess for anyone using him as a server I suppose :-) |
| 12:28.34 | geemark | PeTeRB: can only select one page at a time |
| 12:28.36 | petemc | kensuke: im not sure, check the docs |
| 12:28.40 | silenius | doub: only for people using his server |
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| 12:28.48 | kensuke | thanx petemx |
| 12:28.49 | resiak | geemark: Use gvim. ggVG then go middle-click in Firefox. |
| 12:28.50 | Akselii | sup ppl? |
| 12:28.52 | chaps0063 | how can I add a printer by IP? |
| 12:28.55 | kensuke | or petemc... if you prefer ;-) |
| 12:29.02 | doub | PerfDave: but the 'authoritative' part is a parameter of the DNS server, AFAIK |
| 12:29.02 | geemark | resiak, bbrazil: thanks |
| 12:29.04 | resiak | !tell kensuke -about nicktab |
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| 12:29.21 | PerfDave | doub: It's also to do with the SOA records in the upstream server. |
| 12:29.24 | PeTeRB | geemark: Umm. Use visual mode? :) |
| 12:29.37 | PeTeRB | geemark: Hit V and then scroll down |
| 12:29.43 | kensuke | resiak ... thats cool :-) |
| 12:29.48 | kensuke | resiak ... shot |
| 12:29.49 | fumbalah | is there a java runtime package available via apt-get |
| 12:29.56 | PerfDave | fumbalah: /msg dpkg java |
| 12:30.06 | jethro | !irritate paulswm |
| 12:30.08 | dpkg | paulswm: hi every1 how does I run teh edonkey !!!! |
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| 12:30.21 | geemark | PeTeRB: i guess you refer to Yank til file? isn't that only an internal vim clipboard? |
| 12:30.26 | PerfDave | doub: For example, the .org nameservers know which are the authoritative nameservers for debian.org, and will direct requests for debian.org there. I can run my own server with debian.org records but nothing on the Internet will listen to it. |
| 12:30.32 | doub | PerfDave: ok. so when you buy a domain name, the upstream registers you as SOA for this one, and if you don't, it only will mess up with people using this server, as kensuke and silenius pointed, right? |
| 12:30.47 | PerfDave | doub: Right. Read O'Reilly's "DNS and BIND" :) |
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| 12:30.57 | resiak | PeTeRB: That works for what he wants if he uses GVIM, which is what I just suggested a page ago. :-) |
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| 12:31.13 | paulswm | @fruitsmite jethro |
| 12:31.18 | silenius | doub: don't read o'reilly but the fscking specs.. |
| 12:31.19 | PeTeRB | resiak: It works for me in vim too :/ |
| 12:31.27 | jethro | !ganjasmite paulswm |
| 12:31.35 | resiak | PeTeRB: It puts everything into your X select buffer? |
| 12:31.38 | paulswm | HAHA |
| 12:31.49 | PeTeRB | resiak: Let me try that once more... |
| 12:32.01 | paulswm | !test |
| 12:32.01 | PerfDave | :jengasmite jethro |
| 12:32.02 | jethro | dpkg: ganjasmite $1 is <action> hits $1 with the bong |
| 12:32.03 | dpkg | jethro: okay |
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| 12:32.06 | kensuke | ok, here is an OT question ... I openly accept and flames ... :-) In samba, is there a way I could have a share that allows write access to create new files, write access to modify existing one ... but deny deletion of files ? |
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| 12:32.11 | paulswm | :( |
| 12:32.12 | jethro | !ganjasmite paulswm |
| 12:32.20 | resiak | kensuke: #samba ! |
| 12:32.21 | PerfDave | dpkg: jengasmite $1 is <action> pulls out a brick from under $1, causing them to fall |
| 12:32.21 | dpkg | PerfDave: okay |
| 12:32.28 | jethro | :) |
| 12:32.32 | chaps0063 | is there any way to print to a Sharp AR-168S printer by IP? |
| 12:32.43 | K_Dallas | lp? |
| 12:32.46 | paulswm | jethro: I cannot singlishsmite you becuase dpkg is sulking at me again |
| 12:32.56 | doub | PerfDave: so one can use a whole different DNS hierarchy of his own, defining SOA as he would like, entirely bypassing ICANN and the whole thing, right? |
| 12:32.59 | resiak | PeTeRB: All apologies, it _does_ work with vim (with "insecure" stuff enabled in urxvt). Thank you. |
| 12:33.00 | jethro | !singlishsmite paulswm |
| 12:33.01 | dpkg | paulswm: Say some more, lah! Like I care! |
| 12:33.05 | tra1a1a | !repeating |
| 12:33.05 | dpkg | We read your question the first time, and if we haven't replied, there's a good chance we either don't know, don't have time to answer, or someone doesn't like you. Repeating is annoying. |
| 12:33.05 | devazion | Hi how can i check my floppy for errors? |
| 12:33.08 | jethro | paulswm: but *I* can do it! |
| 12:33.09 | bbrazil | kensuke: chattr +a /path/to/dir |
| 12:33.10 | PeTeRB | resiak: :) |
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| 12:33.29 | jethro | paulswm: that's all you deserve for being mean with dpkg |
| 12:33.31 | tra1a1a | !nickometer chaps0063 |
| 12:33.32 | dpkg | 'chaps0063' is 59.000% lame, tra1a1a |
| 12:33.33 | PerfDave | doub: Yes, but it's bloody useless because nobody will listen to you. |
| 12:33.35 | paulswm | :P |
| 12:33.39 | bbrazil | kensuke: assumes ext2/3 |
| 12:33.40 | jethro | tra1a1a: hi! |
| 12:33.47 | tra1a1a | jethro: hey, there |
| 12:33.52 | Guerin | paulswm: been in New Zealand for a couple hundred years now |
| 12:34.02 | jmob|L | !nickometer jmob|L |
| 12:34.03 | tra1a1a | !irritate hello jethro |
| 12:34.04 | dpkg | hello jethro: wenas how does I run teh grafixx windows kthx |
| 12:34.06 | Guerin | paulswm: still there; i heartily recommend visiting them both |
| 12:34.09 | jethro | herh |
| 12:34.14 | paulswm | Very good Guerin :) |
| 12:34.26 | doub | PerfDave: of course. but say one day verisign manages to own the whole DNS, we can take it over for our own good |
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| 12:34.34 | PerfDave | doub: You can run your own alternate DNS hierarchy, like Alternic, but only other people using your root DNS servers will actually be able to resolve your domains. |
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| 12:35.18 | paulswm | !agincourtsmite jethro |
| 12:35.19 | paulswm | :P |
| 12:35.27 | Guerin | hahha |
| 12:35.38 | jethro | agincourt? |
| 12:35.43 | paulswm | *sigh* |
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| 12:35.57 | gnube | I am running woody on a production server and want to use apt-get to install logwatch |
| 12:36.00 | jethro | !agincourtsmite me |
| 12:36.25 | gnube | is there a good way to do this without changing apt-get source-list? |
| 12:36.29 | Guerin | jethro: english vs french, bows and arrows |
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| 12:36.36 | Guerin | gnube: no. |
| 12:36.42 | PerfDave | !info logwatch woody |
| 12:36.53 | paulswm | jethro: You guys came in for a bit of a pounding there in 1415, partly due to a lot of Welsh archers :) |
| 12:37.20 | devazion | msg dpkg bts |
| 12:37.24 | devazion | sry |
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| 12:37.29 | jethro | paulswm: ah I see |
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| 12:37.52 | paulswm | jethro: Of course, we're all friends now :) |
| 12:38.09 | gnube | So what is the best way to do this? Use apt-get with a changed sources list or download from source? |
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| 12:38.24 | silenius | paulswm: and you use the victory-gesture uniformly, though it dates back to exactly those wars ;) |
| 12:39.04 | cyrille_ | I can't remember what the command to get 1290 from the string 1290 1312 1 is... any idea? |
| 12:39.14 | PerfDave | gnube: You need to backport it. You can either backport it yourself, or use a pre-prepared one from backports.org; either way, /msg dpkg backport |
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| 12:39.48 | supaman | cyrille_: awk '{print $1}' 1290 1312 .. |
| 12:39.51 | PeTeRB | cyrille_: man awk |
| 12:39.59 | silenius | cyrille: cut or tr or awk or sed |
| 12:40.11 | cyrille_ | ok thanks, i'll get awk |
| 12:40.23 | gnube | PerfDave, Thank you, I'll msg |
| 12:40.44 | MobyTurbo | cyrille_: awk comes with your system |
| 12:41.07 | cyrille_ | MobyTurbo, I meant "i'll use awk" :-) |
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| 12:41.22 | MobyTurbo | cyrille_: OK |
| 12:41.35 | UnIData | debian 3.1 when ? |
| 12:41.44 | MobyTurbo | cyrille_: technically speaking it comes with nawk, gawk, which is the awk in some other distros, is optional |
| 12:41.51 | drac | UnIData: Next weekend? |
| 12:42.00 | MobyTurbo | er s/nawk/mawk/ |
| 12:42.02 | PerfDave | UnIData: /msg dpkg wwsr |
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| 12:42.15 | supaman | mawk, not nawk :-) |
| 12:42.58 | gnube | why mawk and not gawk? |
| 12:43.02 | silenius | "nawk" as well |
| 12:43.03 | gnube | mawk seems old |
| 12:43.18 | MobyTurbo | gnube: mawk has less features but is faster |
| 12:43.22 | supaman | gnube: I think it has better performance |
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| 12:43.46 | doub | PerfDave: in fact it seems i'm not the first to have this idea : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_DNS_root |
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| 12:44.03 | gnube | I have heard awk (in all its forms) is pretty fast |
| 12:44.13 | gnube | Is this true say in comparison to Python or perl |
| 12:44.29 | jm_ | perl is fast too |
| 12:44.41 | gnube | I ask because I use awk and I like it a lot and want to know more about its performance |
| 12:44.42 | caphuso | gnube: no. awk is a lot slower than both python and perl |
| 12:44.43 | silenius | jm: can be, if you know what you do |
| 12:44.44 | MobyTurbo | gnube: Perl is faster, assuming you can read what you tell it to do six months later. ;-) |
| 12:44.55 | caphuso | it starts up faster, but that's about it |
| 12:44.56 | PerfDave | doub: No, you're not. As I said. |
| 12:45.13 | tra1a1a | gnube: awk is hardly comparable to perl and python |
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| 12:46.15 | gnube | well lets stay in the realm of text processing - there I feel one can compare those three and maybe bash too. |
| 12:46.35 | tra1a1a | and speaking off-topic is python able to act similarly to awk the way perl does? |
| 12:46.48 | gnube | for example if one wants to write a simple log parser awk seems a good choice under debian |
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| 12:47.25 | gnube | python has pretty strong text handling capabilities |
| 12:47.44 | gnube | but I have heard it is slow. |
| 12:47.55 | jharrisonwk | morning everyone |
| 12:48.05 | rituraj | good morning |
| 12:48.08 | jharrisonwk | gnube: slow? |
| 12:48.11 | paulswm | @fruitsmite jharrisonwk |
| 12:48.13 | jethro | hello jharrisonwk |
| 12:48.20 | jharrisonwk | mmmmmmmmm mangos |
| 12:48.23 | paulswm | :P |
| 12:48.39 | sirv | gnube: real programmers use asm |
| 12:48.44 | tra1a1a | it has, but the question is are they easily accessible in the pipeline fashion? |
| 12:48.45 | directhex|work | !dachs jharrisonwk |
| 12:48.45 | jharrisonwk | we use to have a huge mango tree in my yard that had hundreds of mangos each year |
| 12:48.45 | dpkg | jharrisonwk: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 12:49.07 | jharrisonwk | then that damn hurricane andrew showed up and uprooted it |
| 12:49.07 | gnube | tra1a1a, ahh, now I see. |
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| 12:49.22 | tra1a1a | sirv: sure, and they use it like that: cat > myfile.asm |
| 12:49.27 | paulswm | Naah, real programmers patch object code with a hex editor. |
| 12:49.29 | liable | that is a very wrong dpkg command |
| 12:49.31 | colter | all my files in /etc/init.d are 0755 - wouldn't 0750 be more secure? |
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| 12:49.38 | PerfDave | "more secure" how? |
| 12:50.18 | paulswm | liable: wrong? |
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| 12:51.07 | colter | PerfDave: assume I have a crappy self-made script in there. "Secure" maybe in the sense that I can limit the damge (I caused). |
| 12:51.11 | jharrisonwk | colter: try to run a script as normal user and see what happens |
| 12:51.14 | mikeX | gnube, well ocaml might be an option in terms of speed, since it can be compiled, I've heard it's good in terms of parsing and lexical analysis |
| 12:51.28 | gnube | !info logwatch woody |
| 12:51.31 | mysurfguide | Question, If I was to set up a cronjob to delete all tmp files so and so hour of the day, could this interfere with current applications on the box?, and If I set up a cronjob to delete all specific log files every so and so hour, would these automatically be created while trying to write to them? |
| 12:51.38 | jethro | colter: rewrite the script, just dont screw the other with file permissions just because you're not sure your script is ok |
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| 12:51.58 | jharrisonwk | mysurfguide: why would you do such a thing? |
| 12:52.05 | jharrisonwk | mysurfguide: there is log rotation you know |
| 12:52.06 | PerfDave | colter: If your script contains passwords, it's broken. If it doesn't, there's no point in not letting people read it. |
| 12:52.07 | bbrazil | mysurfguide: 1) yes 2) logrotate |
| 12:52.07 | doub | paulswm: that's the very reason why free software exists, i guess |
| 12:52.16 | colter | jethro: I'm not changing anything, I was just curious |
| 12:52.17 | mysurfguide | Okay cool ty guys |
| 12:52.26 | doub | paulswm: for non-real programmers to be able to claim as it |
| 12:52.54 | colter | PerfDave: no, nothing of the sort. |
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| 12:53.07 | jharrisonwk | colter: you will find that the actual binaries have the proper permissions and the permissions of the scripts in /etc/init.d are nothing to worry about |
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| 12:53.37 | Gathond | mysurfguide: deleted files are not removed from the filesystem before the last filehandle to it closes, wether the filename gets restored if some write to the file I do not know |
| 12:55.00 | colter | jharrisonwk: I'm not worried about those; that's why I referred to a crappy self-made script |
| 12:55.12 | caphuso | "It'll remain there until security support is dropped, which (according to Joey Schulze) will be a year from sarge's release or the sarge+1 release, whichever comes first." |
| 12:55.15 | Coke | Gathond: not in ext3 |
| 12:55.19 | colter | somehow make one mistake not lead to another |
| 12:55.55 | jharrisonwk | colter: there is a skeleton script that should suit your needs for anything you want to run out of /etc/init.d |
| 12:56.28 | jharrisonwk | caphuso: what will remain there? |
| 12:56.46 | caphuso | jharrisonwk: woody as old-stable on the main mirrors |
| 12:57.10 | silenius | btw, what's the current-state of acpi-support in linux? |
| 12:57.10 | jharrisonwk | ah |
| 12:57.18 | silenius | s/-// |
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| 12:57.25 | directhex|work | silenius, what are you after specifically? |
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| 12:58.11 | silenius | directhex: does powerstate-switching (cpu-speed, suspend to disk/ram) work reliably across devices? |
| 12:58.53 | colter | jharrisonwk: thanks for the hint, I like it |
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| 13:00.17 | jmob|L | silenius: depends on the support for the device |
| 13:00.21 | mikeX | wooot, AA high performance 106x combo in pydance : DD |
| 13:00.32 | silenius | jmob: i take this as a "no" |
| 13:00.57 | silenius | k. on linux on my laptop, then |
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| 13:01.10 | PerfDave | silenius: We're not psychic ;) |
| 13:01.12 | jmob|L | silenius: there's a certain run of pentium 3 procs branded with a mobile logo that don't have very good support |
| 13:01.14 | PerfDave | silenius: /msg dpkg laptop |
| 13:01.23 | directhex|work | silenius, it works reliably on my dell latitude d410 |
| 13:01.38 | directhex|work | silenius, though i'd recommend $not_debian for modern centrino kit |
| 13:01.42 | jmob|L | silenius: but that's because intel hasn't released any specs on that particular cpu |
| 13:02.16 | silenius | well, thanks anyway |
| 13:02.18 | rituraj | does Sarge support i915 mobo? |
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| 13:02.42 | directhex|work | rituraj, no. |
| 13:02.47 | rituraj | :( |
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| 13:03.03 | directhex|work | rituraj, you'd be wanting 2.6.10 for that, sarge has 2.6.8 |
| 13:03.43 | rituraj | so that means a lot of users with new PCs wont be able to use Sarge |
| 13:03.55 | directhex|work | rituraj, correct. |
| 13:04.01 | rituraj | thats bad! |
| 13:04.03 | directhex|work | !tell rituraj about sarge hardware support |
| 13:04.28 | jharrisonwk | rituraj: why not? |
| 13:04.56 | jharrisonwk | ah yes most users will have issues |
| 13:05.11 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, i915 has been standard on major brands like dell for 6 months or more, both on desktops and laptops |
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| 13:05.30 | jharrisonwk | directhex|work: so whats the problem |
| 13:05.45 | jharrisonwk | 2.6.8 does not support that? |
| 13:05.46 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, 2.6.8 doesn't recognise the disk controller |
| 13:06.15 | jharrisonwk | ah |
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| 13:06.15 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, nor the sound, and x doesn't support the graphics, if we're being picky |
| 13:06.17 | jharrisonwk | well that sucks |
| 13:06.30 | jharrisonwk | what is being done about this? |
| 13:06.48 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, well, i'm running ubuntu on my i915 dothan centrino laptop, that's what |
| 13:07.05 | PerfDave | Hee hee hee :) |
| 13:07.05 | LordWolF | whats the command to check what Linux kernel im using? |
| 13:07.05 | jharrisonwk | but what is being done about this in debian? |
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| 13:07.07 | rituraj | nothing is being done on this in debian i guess |
| 13:07.08 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, bugger all, as per usual |
| 13:07.10 | PerfDave | LordWolF: uname -r |
| 13:07.11 | dh2 | 'apt-get world' complains that packages are already installed. I did an 'apt-get clean' just to make sure I have an empty archives directory, but I still get the same errors. What am I doing wrong? |
| 13:07.11 | PeTeRB | LordWolF: uname -r |
| 13:07.15 | LordWolF | thanks |
| 13:07.17 | LordWolF | i did -a |
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| 13:07.34 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, once there are installer images with 2.6.10 or higher, that counts as "something". though the lack of support for year-old graphics cards will remain until xorg makes it inb |
| 13:07.35 | jharrisonwk | where is brandon we could scream in his ear a bit :-P |
| 13:07.41 | jharrisonwk | go to the top thats what I say |
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| 13:08.00 | jharrisonwk | directhex|work: that wont happen until after sarge |
| 13:08.17 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, correct. though there may be unofficial d-i images for the kernel thing |
| 13:08.29 | rituraj | hmm hope so |
| 13:08.44 | jharrisonwk | well sarge is suppose to be released on what june the 8th or something |
| 13:08.47 | jharrisonwk | I wont hold my breath |
| 13:08.52 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, geforce 6 and ati x have been around for a year, and are unsupported, as is i915 onboard, and an array of other companies' bits & bobs like recent via onboards |
| 13:08.53 | DotHack | 6ht i hope |
| 13:08.56 | rituraj | 6th June |
| 13:08.59 | Tuttle | Hi, we have a surveillance camera with composite video output and three server boxes which have their work. Is it reasonable to plug some videograbber to one of the server and if so, which product to buy for it? |
| 13:09.02 | rituraj | on my birthday :) |
| 13:09.03 | PerfDave | Making a d-i image with 2.6.11 or whatever would be trivial. If the Debian Security Team want to provide security support for 2.6.11 kernel-image packages, then I'd be happy :) |
| 13:09.03 | jharrisonwk | but once that happens maybe some prgress will happen |
| 13:09.24 | jharrisonwk | Tuttle: hauppage should work fine |
| 13:09.38 | PerfDave | Unfortunately I didn't get to file my bug report against 2.6.8 until after they stopped accepting kernel bug reports. |
| 13:09.49 | directhex|work | jharrisonwk, though can you understand why i'm not using debian on my i915 laptop? i've had nothing but earbashings ¬_¬ |
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| 13:10.05 | directhex|work | PerfDave, i've filed bug reports on major 2.6.8 issues which are on the "this bug doesn't exist" pile |
| 13:10.09 | jharrisonwk | directhex|work: of course I cannot understand your betrayal |
| 13:10.19 | jharrisonwk | directhex|work: but you got to do what you got to do I guess |
| 13:10.21 | jharrisonwk | :) |
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| 13:10.52 | jharrisonwk | im considering ubuntu for my father |
| 13:10.53 | drac | directhex|work: i915, including 3D is supported by latest Mesa and DRM cvs.. |
| 13:11.00 | directhex|work | well if option a is installing a system with 3d, cpu frequency scaling, acpi suspend all out of the box, or option b is a screen saying "debian installer was unable to find any disks"... |
| 13:11.13 | directhex|work | drac, and works perfectly on ubuntu 5.04 |
| 13:11.20 | jharrisonwk | hehe |
| 13:11.22 | drac | directhex|work: ah nice :) |
| 13:11.24 | jharrisonwk | directhex|work: you make a good point |
| 13:11.25 | gnube | jharrisonwk, people that I talk to say ubuntu is great, it just works |
| 13:11.28 | directhex|work | well, not perfectly, it's sorta slow with wolfenstein enemy territory |
| 13:11.31 | PerfDave | I just tend to buy hardware that's supported by the OS I want to run. It's a crazy idea, it'll never catch on :) |
| 13:11.39 | jharrisonwk | gnube: yes ive heard that also |
| 13:11.43 | directhex|work | PerfDave, so you dumpster dive for laptops? |
| 13:11.51 | PerfDave | directhex|work: Nope |
| 13:12.14 | Tuttle | jharrisonwk: is it CPU / bus intensive job? Will the server be able to server something else? :) |
| 13:12.35 | PerfDave | gnube: Plenty of people also say that Ubuntu doesn't just work any more than Debian does. Seems to be pretty much horses for courses, though it seems that if one of them doesn't work, the other one will. |
| 13:12.59 | jharrisonwk | Tuttle: the capture card will do the work |
| 13:13.00 | directhex|work | PerfDave, ubuntu sucks if you want to think outside the box. but if the shoe fits, then sorted |
| 13:13.32 | rituraj | Ubuntu is great but i wont install it on servers....not stable as Debian stable |
| 13:13.40 | gnube | hmm. The only compaint I had heard was that ubuntu breaks deb packages and that they have some reliance on non-free software |
| 13:13.47 | gnube | that said I would not run it on a server |
| 13:13.48 | PerfDave | directhex|work: People seem to have some pretty basic installation failure errors with it, just not the same ones they have with Debian ;) |
| 13:14.19 | Tuttle | jharrisonwk: is it possible to do some motion detection? to store video only when the area changes |
| 13:14.21 | directhex|work | PerfDave, i'd believe it, but it _does_ have better support for new hardware than sarge or sid do at this point in time, that much is undeniable |
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| 13:14.52 | yalu | allmighty irc channel, how can I make sure that my nfs client uses nfs version 3? |
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| 13:14.54 | PerfDave | directhex|work: For some new hardware, perhaps. I've not found anything that Sarge won't install on yet. |
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| 13:15.20 | rituraj | i Hope "testing" after sarge will have support for i915 |
| 13:15.28 | xerophyte | Kodak EasyShare DX7590 Digital Camera anybody own this .. if so how is it |
| 13:15.29 | ircdevil | i keep forgetting this. where is the qt executable that can make qt executables stored? |
| 13:15.34 | directhex|work | rituraj, it will, assuming it has a 2.6.10 or higher kernel |
| 13:15.38 | gnube | PerfDave, But that is rather advanced, new users want a simpler experience |
| 13:15.44 | rituraj | but hey |
| 13:15.46 | jim | rituraj: sheesh... build the kernel |
| 13:15.55 | rituraj | sarge does get installed on i915 |
| 13:16.03 | rituraj | the only problem is with X |
| 13:16.05 | jim | devices are supported by KERNELS |
| 13:16.10 | directhex|work | rituraj, depends what the disk's plugged into |
| 13:16.16 | ircdevil | gotit |
| 13:16.16 | jim | so therefore you can install debian. |
| 13:16.17 | directhex|work | jim, and by xserver-xfree86 |
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| 13:16.27 | directhex|work | jim, and when disk controllers are unsupported? |
| 13:16.36 | rituraj | which disks have probs? sata? |
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| 13:16.53 | directhex|work | rituraj, whatever's in my laptop, and i've heard people with i915 desktops failing installation in here before |
| 13:16.55 | jim | gotta wait or try building the installer or (gasp) get an older drive and install on that first |
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| 13:17.09 | directhex|work | jim, drive? CONTROLLER FOR FUCK'S SAKE |
| 13:17.22 | petemc | !+custom d-i |
| 13:17.22 | dpkg | custom d-i is probably http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt |
| 13:17.24 | paulswm | o.O, caps |
| 13:17.25 | rituraj | i was able to install sarge on i915 |
| 13:17.29 | jim | then buy a controller put it in the pci slot and be done with it |
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| 13:17.36 | directhex|work | rituraj, depends on the revision, from what i can tell |
| 13:17.46 | directhex|work | jim, what a fucking useless waste of time and money for all concerned |
| 13:17.48 | jharrisonwk | Tuttle: that I dont know |
| 13:17.58 | jim | directhex|work: fine. WAIT then. |
| 13:17.59 | alexmacy | hi |
| 13:18.01 | directhex|work | jim, and handily, there are hundreds of pci disk controllers for laptops, aren't there |
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| 13:18.08 | rituraj | d-i |
| 13:18.12 | rituraj | oops |
| 13:18.32 | Akselii | hmmm |
| 13:18.32 | _joey_ | Everybody shut up |
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| 13:18.38 | rituraj | ok |
| 13:18.41 | ircdevil | ok |
| 13:18.43 | _joey_ | :) |
| 13:18.46 | uzed | ola |
| 13:18.47 | rituraj | i am shitting up |
| 13:19.01 | uzed | alguem ai tem um servidor de hospedagem com PHP5?? |
| 13:19.17 | Akselii | apt-file update cant download updates, it says 404 at many download thingys |
| 13:19.27 | jethro | Akselii: just wait |
| 13:19.30 | Akselii | http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/Contents-i386.gz |
| 13:19.41 | Akselii | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.44 | stouset | !es |
| 13:19.44 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:19.47 | jim | directhex|work: as far as -disk- controllers go, they would have to wait for drivers |
| 13:19.51 | PeTeRB | !br |
| 13:19.51 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 13:20.23 | jim | as far as -video- controllers, they do not have to wait to install. |
| 13:20.27 | directhex|work | jim, or, alternatively, use a different distribution |
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| 13:20.32 | jim | they can use console and compile there |
| 13:20.35 | Akselii | is there something wrong with my mirror selections or something? |
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| 13:20.51 | jim | directhex|work: yep, that's definitely a viable alternative |
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| 13:21.08 | gnube | stouset, I think that was Portugese |
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| 13:21.48 | ac3 | Anyone uses courier-imap + ldap on debian sarge? |
| 13:21.57 | jim | directhex|work: and maybe they will find something they want to run there; more power to em |
| 13:22.00 | jethro | !anyone |
| 13:22.00 | dpkg | somebody said anyone was ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 13:22.19 | ac3 | hehe |
| 13:22.28 | jim | ac3: /msg dpkg smart questions /msg dpkg sicco |
| 13:22.29 | ircdevil | !seen anyone |
| 13:22.29 | dpkg | anyone <~deadcat@netblock-66-245-221-31.dslextreme.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 9d 17h 36m 6s ago, saying: 'anyone sucks.'. |
| 13:22.36 | tra1a1a | it's not that funny |
| 13:22.44 | Akselii | hey? |
| 13:22.44 | jethro | ac3: if you have a prolbem, just name it. joining #ldap could help too |
| 13:22.48 | Akselii | what can i do? |
| 13:22.56 | ac3 | it´s not an ldap problem |
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| 13:22.57 | Akselii | is my mirror selections somehow messed up or what? |
| 13:23.05 | ac3 | it is courier-debian related |
| 13:23.11 | jethro | !tell ac3 -about smart questions |
| 13:23.13 | tra1a1a | Akselii: you could wait as you've been told or you chould stfu |
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| 13:23.13 | ac3 | same setup on redhat works |
| 13:23.14 | jethro | !tell ac3 -about enter |
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| 13:23.27 | Akselii | tra1a1a: what you mean? |
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| 13:23.28 | mrplum | ac3, I've been play around with that combo, nothing finished yet, could just ask the Q |
| 13:23.30 | tra1a1a | ac3: use it on redhat then |
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| 13:23.39 | LordWolF | does debian have the nobody/nogroup username/group by default? |
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| 13:23.45 | tra1a1a | !tell Akselii about stfu |
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| 13:23.57 | jethro | LordWolF: grep nobo /etc/passwd |
| 13:24.13 | LordWolF | ok |
| 13:24.16 | stouset | gnube: Ah. I thought it might, but I figured it'd be 50/50 either way. |
| 13:24.30 | LordWolF | thanks |
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| 13:25.14 | gnube | stouset, yeah, they should be able to understand anyway, besides I am just guessing. |
| 13:25.16 | ac3 | tra1a1a: i´m migrating from redhat to debian |
| 13:25.32 | rituraj | great ac3 |
| 13:25.35 | jim | ac3: right, if it works on redhat, use redhat (but note... anything ought to run on any dist... switching dists might get things working... you have to do the work to switch tho) |
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| 13:25.42 | rituraj | i did that an year ago...dumped redhat |
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| 13:26.32 | Akselii | wtf |
| 13:26.33 | rituraj | jim: u r right....but for me nothing worked on redhat until i plyed with it long enough |
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| 13:26.59 | Akselii | when i try to make menuconf or make xconf i get a error |
| 13:27.09 | rituraj | with debian , things are easy ....very very easy |
| 13:27.24 | jim | ac3: switching to a different dist usually means you have to get used to things... and in the meantime some things wont work... so you get to them one at a time and get them going |
| 13:27.28 | rituraj | and some years ago i though Windows is more user firnedly OS than linux! |
| 13:27.28 | ac3 | In my imampd (debug loggin) i get this: imaplogin: authdaemon: starting client module, imaplogin: authdaemon: REJECT, imaplogin: LOGIN FAILED (in the ldap log i see the correct query and a correct answer) |
| 13:27.35 | jim | that's true of any pair of dists |
| 13:27.38 | LordWolF | onething i dont understand some groups can be called /bin/false? |
| 13:27.56 | jim | Akselii: /msg dpkg smart questions |
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| 13:28.15 | Akselii | /usr/include/bits/socket.h:305:24: asm/socket.h: doesent exist |
| 13:28.16 | tra1a1a | ac3: we don't care |
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| 13:28.19 | Akselii | what is that error |
| 13:28.41 | ac3 | I have the same problem as this guy, but his sollution does not work for me |
| 13:28.44 | ac3 | http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/03/msg00704.html |
| 13:29.39 | _joey | is there a tool for linux router that will collect the total bandwidth used ? |
| 13:29.44 | jim | tra1a1a: you've summarized the whole problem with this channel. |
| 13:29.48 | _joey | with some options |
| 13:30.00 | ac3 | tra1a1a: speek for yourself |
| 13:30.05 | tra1a1a | jim: is it really a problem? |
| 13:30.06 | paulswm | LordWolF: An account might be used for, say, ftp but you don't want it to have a shell login. |
| 13:30.06 | jim | I was considering helping hem |
| 13:30.15 | jim | but now, you do it or someone else do it |
| 13:30.20 | jim | why should I care? |
| 13:30.33 | paulswm | LordWolF: So /bin/false immediately exits on login |
| 13:30.58 | ac3 | I don´t know, but his reaction could have been a bit nicier |
| 13:31.41 | jim | (reason for this: I don't feel that other folks will support and fill in, so I'm supposed to do it alone? FUCK that.) |
| 13:31.59 | tra1a1a | ac3: you've been pointed to the smart questions howto. Not by me. |
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| 13:32.10 | LordWolF | ohh ok |
| 13:32.19 | LordWolF | thanks |
| 13:32.20 | ac3 | I´ve read these, i´m sorry for the spam |
| 13:32.20 | jim | yeah, you might want to read that |
| 13:32.24 | paulswm | LordWolF: yw |
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| 13:33.43 | trand | what would happen when Europe software patents is passed? (i'm in korea. so i like to know it in detail) |
| 13:33.59 | PerfDave | trand: We'll all go to hell in a handbasket. |
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| 13:34.08 | PerfDave | trand: Microsoft will patent 1 and 0 and Linux will be outlawed. |
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| 13:34.33 | tra1a1a | trand: you will feel it there when all the significant software development moves next to you. |
| 13:34.36 | jim | trand: in detail? ok,,, become a lawyer |
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| 13:34.38 | yalu | does nfs-user-server support nfs version 3 at all? |
| 13:35.01 | trand | hmm.... oh my... :O |
| 13:35.03 | cyrille_ | I'm back with another question... |
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| 13:35.24 | jim | trand: and, #politics is that way --> |
| 13:35.40 | trand | i see. thanks for info. |
| 13:35.42 | cyrille_ | how can I get only the distinct values from a given array, in shell... |
| 13:35.44 | tra1a1a | yalu: do the docs say it does? |
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| 13:36.11 | initech | yalu: not sure, only one way to find out though. some reason you don't want to use the kernel-server? |
| 13:36.20 | jim | trand: this is a tech channel, not really suited for discussing legal issues |
| 13:36.20 | tra1a1a | cyrille_: echo $array[@] | sort | uniq (more or less) |
| 13:36.25 | tra1a1a | for details see man bash |
| 13:36.33 | mrplum | heh |
| 13:36.38 | trand | jim, yeap, i'd remember that |
| 13:37.07 | jim | man bash is generally outdated and unmaintained... the info page for bash is more uptodate, more detailed. |
| 13:37.17 | yalu | initech: well, it crashed on me a few times... and took the rest of the system with it |
| 13:37.20 | jim | and is the definitive reference |
| 13:37.54 | initech | yalu: really? are you doing anything weird with it, like nfs4? |
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| 13:38.05 | tra1a1a | jim: I'll keep it in mind. Anyway my knowledge for the arrays comes from the man and the things described there work at least in this area. |
| 13:38.30 | jim | trand: and when you say "I want all the details", some people would reply "supersize your fries with that?" |
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| 13:39.04 | yalu | initech: nope, actually, my server still runs a 2.4.22 kernel from Debian sources |
| 13:39.05 | Sauron21 | hi...I was wonderinf in anyone could tell me why my network interface returns to eth0 everytime I change it to wlan with ifrename.......?? |
| 13:39.10 | jim | tra1a1a: compare to the info page sometime... you might like it; who knows |
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| 13:39.44 | jim | Sauron21: this happens when exactly? |
| 13:39.58 | tra1a1a | I doubt I will compare it but I will use it as a reference for future |
| 13:40.05 | jim | but why bother changing the name anyway |
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| 13:40.19 | initech | yalu: shrug. I've never had a problem with nfs-kernel-server and use it a lot |
| 13:40.28 | jim | use the one given, if another name is a problem |
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| 13:40.43 | LordWolF | To set up the rules, you will need to know two things, the interface that the to-be-proxied requests are coming in on (I'll use eth0 as an example)<--- i dont understand this sentence |
| 13:41.09 | yalu | initech: I succeed in getting my computers to put out the most exotic and strange errors possible |
| 13:41.11 | LordWolF | that the to-be-proxied |
| 13:41.16 | daffy-pkf | lo |
| 13:41.20 | LordWolF | thats the ip? |
| 13:41.22 | tra1a1a | !win yalu |
| 13:41.24 | dpkg | Congratulations, yalu! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 13:41.31 | Sauron21 | well...I tried to channge the name of the eth1 (which is my wireless interface) to wlan ......but everytime I reboot....my interface changes back to eth1.....(changed it with ifrename ) |
| 13:41.42 | initech | yalu: it panics or what? sure it's not something else, like your network card driver? |
| 13:41.43 | yalu | lol, what was that for tra1a1a :-D |
| 13:41.51 | jim | LordWolF: what part don't you understand? |
| 13:41.56 | LordWolF | that the to-be-proxied |
| 13:41.59 | LordWolF | that one |
| 13:42.01 | tra1a1a | yalu: for your success story |
| 13:42.06 | yalu | hehe |
| 13:42.44 | yalu | initech: kernel oops or panic indeed, not that it happens every week, on several machines actually. |
| 13:43.03 | yalu | well, if I can't get nfs version 3 without the kernel server, so be it |
| 13:43.14 | initech | yalu: what options are you mounting with anyway? |
| 13:43.20 | jim | to-be-proxied requests would be those that are received from a machine behind a proxy |
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| 13:43.30 | LordWolF | interface that the to-be-proxied |
| 13:43.48 | jim | to-be-proxied requests would be those that are received from a machine behind a proxy |
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| 13:44.23 | tra1a1a | am I having a deja vu? |
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| 13:44.39 | LordWolF | mmmm |
| 13:44.46 | jim | only if you listen to crosby stills nash and young |
| 13:44.58 | LordWolF | jim is not the ip right? |
| 13:45.09 | yalu | initech: defaults,hard,intr,noatime,nolock <<-- some of those I put in so long ago I don't even remember what they are for |
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| 13:45.35 | jim | LordWolF: I have no idea. I'm just trying to speak directly to your request: to understand what you're reading |
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| 13:45.59 | LordWolF | ohh |
| 13:46.04 | LordWolF | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy-5.html |
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| 13:46.07 | LordWolF | check it out |
| 13:46.14 | LordWolF | trying to make a transparent proxy |
| 13:46.19 | jim | no, I already explained |
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| 13:46.45 | jethro | !tell LordWolF -about enter |
| 13:46.55 | petemc | LordWolF: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -s 10.0.19.0/24 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128 is what i use |
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| 13:47.16 | initech | yalu: well nolock and intr ... are those really neccessary? I always just use "rw,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,tcp" - this seems to give good performance |
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| 13:47.29 | splash_ | hi someone could help me with postfix - mysql? |
| 13:47.48 | tra1a1a | !anyone |
| 13:47.48 | dpkg | anyone is probably ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 13:47.51 | splash_ | i recive mail onfly for the first user of database |
| 13:48.08 | jim | maybe there's a #postfix |
| 13:48.14 | splash_ | tnx jim |
| 13:48.21 | jethro | !tnx |
| 13:48.22 | dpkg | Really, "Thank you" will do. It's not too much to ask, is it? |
| 13:48.24 | yalu | initech: for some things, they are. intr is to avoid trouble with hard and nolock is necessary because I can't share /var/cache/apt/archives/ otherwise |
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| 13:48.54 | tra1a1a | jethro is on a killing spree! ;) |
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| 13:49.03 | ShaneAu | Where can I get MRTG support? :/ |
| 13:49.13 | LordWolF | ok petemc i see you have added a range of ip thanks let me see whhat i can do |
| 13:49.14 | jethro | tra1a1a: heh |
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| 13:49.26 | jim | ShaneAu: paid or unpaid? |
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| 13:49.47 | kobs | Hello, I am having a bit of trouble trying to install gtk-chtheme, i keep getting the error that: Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'; to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable. I have no clue what to add here though. |
| 13:50.03 | ircdevil | what package provides pdf(latex) |
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| 13:50.07 | ShaneAu | I just need to know how to get it to start showing Mb/s when it hits 1000 Kb/s :( |
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| 13:50.25 | ShaneAu | But it starts at 10,000 Kb/s instead |
| 13:50.29 | tra1a1a | ircdevil: /msg dpkg find <whateveryousearch> |
| 13:50.30 | ShaneAu | So unpaid |
| 13:50.35 | ShaneAu | Just a simple question |
| 13:50.41 | ircdevil | tra1a1a: the name is not correct |
| 13:50.41 | PerfDave | kobs: Have you checked the BTS? |
| 13:50.41 | ShaneAu | (I hope) |
| 13:50.52 | tra1a1a | !ask |
| 13:50.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 13:50.53 | kobs | PerfDave: No, because I dont know what the BTS is |
| 13:51.00 | PerfDave | kobs: /msg dpkg bts |
| 13:51.02 | jim | look into the configuration file |
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| 13:51.04 | tra1a1a | ircdevil: what name is not correct? |
| 13:51.19 | kobs | PerfDave: It's not a Debian package |
| 13:51.36 | gnube | I've been looking at backports.org and they do not have the package I need. Is it wise to install from source or smarter to install with apt-get ? |
| 13:51.36 | ircdevil | tra1a1a: pdf(latex) <- it is a pseudoname - if only i new what package procided it |
| 13:51.37 | jim | you got the acronym wrong :P |
| 13:51.53 | PerfDave | kobs: Ah, fair enough |
| 13:52.06 | gnube | With apt-get I have to change the sources-list but I get security updates and such correct? |
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| 13:52.10 | PerfDave | gnube: backport it yourself - /msg dpkg backport |
| 13:52.13 | ShaneAu | You talkikng to me jim ? |
| 13:52.15 | tra1a1a | kobs: then here it's not the place to ask |
| 13:52.25 | jim | no, whoever made !ask |
| 13:52.34 | PeTeRB | kobs: You could try gtk-theme-switch |
| 13:52.43 | PerfDave | kobs: Use locate to discover the directory containing gtk+-2.0.pc then? |
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| 13:53.02 | ShaneAu | ok, did #mrtg once exist? lol |
| 13:53.04 | tra1a1a | jim: which acronym? |
| 13:53.05 | kobs | gtk-theme-switch is for gtk1, and Yes, I've tried locate |
| 13:53.09 | jim | sicco |
| 13:53.12 | jim | !sicco |
| 13:53.12 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about research and cooperation in asking for help. |
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| 13:53.25 | PerfDave | kobs: Find the package containing that file? /msg dpkg find |
| 13:53.31 | PerfDave | kobs: And of course /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 13:53.38 | initech | yalu: well, at least, I would try getting rid of "nolock" for now and see what happens. |
| 13:53.38 | PerfDave | kobs: /msg dpkg search, not find, sorry. |
| 13:54.01 | PeTeRB | kobs: It's also for gtk2 ;) |
| 13:54.55 | PeTeRB | kobs: If you run switch2 instead of switch. |
| 13:54.57 | tra1a1a | dpkg, ask is =~ s/on-topic!/on-topic (sicco)!/ |
| 13:54.57 | dpkg | i didn't have anything called 'ask is' to modify, tra1a1a |
| 13:55.08 | tra1a1a | dpkg, ask =~ s/on-topic!/on-topic (sicco)!/ |
| 13:55.08 | dpkg | OK, tra1a1a |
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| 13:56.42 | gnube | PerfDave, What advantage would backporting it myself be? That others might use it too? |
| 13:57.07 | PerfDave | gnube: If you made your backport available, maybe. It's just easier than compiling from source. |
| 13:57.09 | gnube | I can see that it has not yet been backported. And the backporting process looks complicated |
| 13:57.16 | rvl | I'm trying to setup LDAP for linux authentication, but when i run ``getent passwd -s ldap'' i get a Segmentation Fault? |
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| 13:58.04 | stouset | rvl: is pam_ldap and nss configured correctly? |
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| 13:58.29 | gnube | PerfDave, Really? I thought it would be harder. I will have to look into more closely that the dpkg message I glanced at. |
| 13:58.34 | gnube | thanks |
| 13:58.35 | jim | backporting would include compiling :) |
| 13:58.56 | PerfDave | gnube: You're also more likely to get something which works transparently with your Debian system by backporting rather than compiling from upstream source. |
| 13:58.59 | jim | that is... if you're building the package... |
| 13:59.08 | rvl | Yes i believe they are, i followed the guidelines in a howto... |
| 13:59.28 | jethro | rvl: which version of debian are you using? |
| 13:59.32 | gnube | PerfDave, I definitly want that. |
| 13:59.40 | rvl | sarge |
| 14:00.31 | jethro | rvl: most chances are it's a configuration issue. /j #ldap for further help on setting up/troubleshooting ldap authentication |
| 14:00.40 | rvl | ok tnx |
| 14:00.47 | jethro | rvl: you're welcome. |
| 14:00.53 | Eclipser | hmpf |
| 14:01.11 | Eclipser | left before I could take a note on that "tnx" |
| 14:01.13 | tra1a1a | !tnx |
| 14:01.13 | dpkg | Really, "Thank you" will do. It's not too much to ask, is it? |
| 14:01.21 | jethro | do bitchx users _need_ to /quit before they can /j another chan? :) |
| 14:01.29 | Eclipser | :) |
| 14:01.33 | tra1a1a | ah, he left you're saying :) |
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| 14:01.54 | Eclipser | part/quit blindness is embarrasing sometimes |
| 14:01.56 | tra1a1a | I'm ignoring this kind of crap |
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| 14:02.55 | tra1a1a | jethro: as a former bitchx user (until a couple of days actually) I could say - no, they don't, it's a matter of taste only |
| 14:03.18 | jethro | tra1a1a: I was kidding :p of course they don't |
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| 14:03.28 | PeTeRB | kensuke: Mount ro? |
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| 14:03.37 | tra1a1a | jethro: of course, you were :) |
| 14:03.40 | St0n3-C0l | does Sarge comes with the support of i810 direct rendering ?? |
| 14:03.41 | jethro | heh |
| 14:03.45 | jethro | !irritate tra1a1a |
| 14:03.46 | dpkg | tra1a1a: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? who uses cable !!!1 |
| 14:03.51 | kensuke | PeTeRB: nono, they still want to change the files, just stop users from deleting them |
| 14:04.01 | PeTeRB | kensuke: Ah. |
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| 14:04.11 | tra1a1a | Eclipser: embarrasing... hardly |
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| 14:05.07 | darkskiez | kenboo, thats a really really annoying feature of windows, it one of the key reasons windows needs to reboot. first time i've heard of someone wanting this :) |
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| 14:05.27 | stouset | Holy hell. |
| 14:05.29 | stouset | 28 RC bugs. |
| 14:05.34 | tra1a1a | kensuke: well, having the ability to change the file makes the option of protecting it quite pointless |
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| 14:05.47 | Eclipser | has the amount increased?-o |
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| 14:05.49 | tra1a1a | !irritate jethro back |
| 14:05.50 | dpkg | jethro back: Y iz debain so old? how can I make my kanotix werkz ????? |
| 14:05.58 | kensuke | tra1a1a: that was my argument ... but you know what its like arguing with an MCSE |
| 14:06.00 | darkskiez | kenboo, perhaps if you build with posix extended attributes thing that i've never used, they might help. |
| 14:06.09 | stouset | Eclipser: Just the opposite. |
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| 14:06.25 | jethro | tra1a1a: sometimes you want append only to a fil |
| 14:06.28 | kensuke | perhaps file extentions would work |
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| 14:07.04 | jethro | kensuke: man chattr |
| 14:07.20 | kensuke | jethro: that you can do with a chattr +a ... but samba seems to break, and if there is caching etc and the file needs to be rewritten, it breaks. in my tests .. even vim never worked ;-) |
| 14:07.26 | MoRLoCh | hello, just a quick (and maybe silly) question: where are the dpkg-reconfigure scripts in the filesystem? (I ask because I'd like to spy how some of these are done...) |
| 14:07.29 | darkskiez | when sarge becomes stable what'll happen to woody boxes with 'stable' in their apt sources? |
| 14:07.34 | kensuke | jethro: thanx though |
| 14:07.51 | kensuke | darkskies: all hell will break loose :-) hehe |
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| 14:08.03 | PerfDave | darkskiez: They'll start to pick up packages from Sarge. The upgrade should be pretty smooth. |
| 14:08.14 | tra1a1a | kensuke: you have just made the life of your keyboard one keystroke longer! Congratulations! |
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| 14:08.23 | darkskiez | PerfDave, has the apt-get upgrade been fixed? i thought you needed to use aptitude |
| 14:08.26 | kensuke | MoRLoCh: when I did it, I just unpacked the .deb file |
| 14:08.43 | jethro | !tell MoRLoCh -about search |
| 14:08.50 | PerfDave | darkskiez: If you're upgrading between versions, you will *of course* read the release notes on upgrading from previous versions of Debian. |
| 14:08.55 | MoRLoCh | kensuke: : yes, I thought to do that, but they should be somewhere in the filesystem no? |
| 14:09.20 | jethro | MoRLoCh: /msg dpkg search, it explains it all |
| 14:09.28 | kensuke | MoRLoCh: I dont think they are left lying around, but I stand corrected |
| 14:09.31 | stouset | tra1a1a: hahaha |
| 14:09.43 | darkskiez | PerfDave, I was wondering if we'll have to login to all of our servers and replace the sources file to point to woody instead of stable. |
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| 14:09.56 | kensuke | tra1a1a: ahh, x vs ks ... I get it now |
| 14:10.00 | MoRLoCh | jethro: : that talks about apt-get search no? |
| 14:10.03 | stouset | darkskiez: If you wanted to stay with Woody, yes. |
| 14:10.05 | brader | is ther a way I can have commands auto ran everytime I log into x? |
| 14:10.09 | stouset | darkskiez: But you should have done that already =P |
| 14:10.09 | jethro | MoRLoCh: can't you just read? |
| 14:10.15 | jethro | !moron MoRLoCh |
| 14:10.15 | MoRLoCh | did that |
| 14:10.16 | dpkg | MoRLoCh: You are moron #92 |
| 14:10.17 | tra1a1a | stouset, kensuke: I will add this as a command... only have to figure out how |
| 14:10.22 | darkskiez | stouset, not my job :) |
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| 14:10.27 | MoRLoCh | anyway I think the fastest solution si to od as kensuke |
| 14:10.30 | darkskiez | laters |
| 14:10.32 | MoRLoCh | said |
| 14:10.37 | PerfDave | darkskiez: If you want to run woody, point your sources.list at woody. If you want to run the stable branch of Debian, point it at stable. |
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| 14:10.53 | gnube | sh: dpkg-source: command not found |
| 14:10.56 | jethro | MoRLoCh: the first line indeed mentions apt-cache search. otoh, it also speaks about apt-file, dpkg -S and a few other ways |
| 14:10.58 | gnube | That is kind of weird |
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| 14:11.17 | cadu | !java |
| 14:11.17 | dpkg | a platform independent OO language. Server-side Java is extremely powerful due to the threads capabilities and the huge number of APIs available. On the other hand, Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java> and <sid mozilla java> (for starters). write once, run nowhere, or write once, run away |
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| 14:11.23 | jethro | kensuke: don't give partial answers when there are god ones in dpkg |
| 14:11.37 | kensuke | jethro: sorry, duely noted |
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| 14:12.15 | jethro | s/god/good/ |
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| 14:12.23 | stouset | jethro: Yeah, keep God out of this. |
| 14:12.34 | LordWolF | petemc |
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| 14:12.46 | petemc | LordWolF |
| 14:12.47 | gnube | is there a separate command that I am missing? apt-get does not install dpkg-source |
| 14:12.48 | tra1a1a | dpkg: thanx is CMD thanx (.*?) is $1: <reply> Congratulations, $1! You've just made the life of your keyboard one keystroke longer! |
| 14:12.48 | dpkg | no worries, tra1a1a |
| 14:12.54 | LordWolF | there is something im doing wrong i did all the settings |
| 14:12.55 | jethro | I wouldn't even expect a godly answer, but I m being OT |
| 14:13.02 | tra1a1a | !thanx tra1a1a |
| 14:13.02 | dpkg | de nada, tra1a1a |
| 14:13.20 | tra1a1a | baaaah |
| 14:13.30 | jethro | tra1a1a: already defined :) |
| 14:13.42 | jethro | !literal thanx |
| 14:13.42 | dpkg | thanx is thanks. |
| 14:13.47 | jethro | !literal thanks |
| 14:13.47 | dpkg | thanks is <reply> no problem <who> |
| 14:13.52 | LordWolF | i went to another computer and added the ip address like the gateway and is not browsing |
| 14:14.07 | tra1a1a | hmmm |
| 14:14.11 | dan24 | Having problem using internetbanc with konquerer site needs"Active scripting" is there a way to activate this? |
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| 14:14.32 | jethro | dpkg thanks $1 is ($1): <reply> Congratulations, $1! You've just made the life of your keyboard one keystroke longer! |
| 14:14.32 | dpkg | no worries, jethro |
| 14:14.36 | jethro | fucker |
| 14:14.39 | LordWolF | i first did it with the first 1ptables command then i did the one you did but i added my range of ip and and the eth1 that you had change it too eth0 |
| 14:14.45 | PerfDave | dpkg: If it means "Javascript", probably. If it means "ActiveX", probably not. |
| 14:14.49 | PerfDave | Argh |
| 14:14.51 | jethro | tra1a1a: the other way works. define the cmd, then define a factoid with the same name |
| 14:14.57 | PerfDave | dan24: If it means "Javascript", probably. If it means "ActiveX", probably not. |
| 14:14.57 | dan24 | its activex!! |
| 14:15.17 | PerfDave | dan24: Then tell your bank to support open standards and not to force you to use insecure browsers. Or get another bank. |
| 14:15.26 | dan24 | ok cheers |
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| 14:16.27 | jesperj | How do I get flash/swf to work with mozilla? |
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| 14:16.34 | dan24 | ?Is there any browsers other then the infamouse one that supports ActiveX? |
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| 14:16.45 | brader | if I want network dirives mounted everytime I start my machien is there a way I can script that somewhere and have the command run everytime ? |
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| 14:16.49 | PerfDave | dan24: No |
| 14:16.52 | jesperj | !flash |
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| 14:16.52 | dpkg | rumour has it, flash is If you want the flashplayer browser plugin, go to http://www.flash.com and follow the instructions there. Or look at the flashplugin-nonfree package, or most flash crap you see is from banner ads, and very little of it actual real and potentially interesting content. get yourself some object blocking/filtering extensions in your favourite browser, or missing fonts? install gsfonts-x11 |
| 14:16.53 | lanchow | i'm looking for _the_ (console) RSS reader, anyone got an advice ? |
| 14:17.00 | petemc | brader: man fstab |
| 14:17.01 | PerfDave | dan24: I think there's a Mozilla plugin for ActiveX, but only on Windows IIRC |
| 14:17.16 | PerfDave | dan24: And even so, you don't want to run it. |
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| 14:17.38 | tra1a1a | jethro: good to know but not really helping in this case |
| 14:17.45 | brader | petemc thanks |
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| 14:17.51 | dan24 | hmm scary idea can explorer be run in WINE? Its ugly i know |
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| 14:18.04 | PerfDave | dan24: Yes, don't know how good the ActiveX support would be though. |
| 14:18.06 | jethro | tra1a1a: just remove both thanx and thanks, create cmd: thanks (.*?) then create thanks and thanx |
| 14:18.10 | PerfDave | dan24: Just shout at your bank, or get one that works. |
| 14:18.22 | PerfDave | dan24: If you're using IE and ActiveX, you're likely to get pwned and have all your money stolen :) |
| 14:18.47 | kensuke | dan24: Are you sure you want to use a bank that writes activex stuff ? |
| 14:18.58 | jesperj | how do I get x-shockwave-flash installed? I got a link to a good tutorial from here ages ago but I lost it |
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| 14:19.03 | Guerin | my bank doesn't use activex |
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| 14:19.11 | PerfDave | jesperj: /msg dpkg flash |
| 14:19.13 | dan24 | Theyve worked well so far! |
| 14:19.18 | jesperj | k |
| 14:19.25 | Guerin | it uses these annoying proprietary plugins which are probably written in VBscript |
| 14:19.31 | Guerin | which reminds me |
| 14:19.32 | kensuke | dan24: its not functionality you should be worried about, its security |
| 14:19.38 | tralala | jethro: isn't removing only thanx going to work? |
| 14:19.43 | jim | dan24: there's always tomorrow... or an hour from now... or the next time you access |
| 14:20.03 | mrwill | lanchow: I know there is one... it's written in ruby, I think... hang on, I'll find it for you. |
| 14:20.06 | Guerin | http://feayn.org/~lewis/why_i_am_glad_i_dont_have_a_korean_bank_account.jpg |
| 14:20.14 | jethro | tralala: depends if you want to create a thanx or thanks cmd. I didn't pay attention |
| 14:20.18 | colter | does sarge's usbmount-package do anything that the pre-installed hotplug-package can't do? |
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| 14:20.23 | lanchow | mrwill: fine |
| 14:20.24 | brader | can I change my default browser to firefox instead of konquerer in KDE? |
| 14:20.26 | jethro | tralala: if thanx, only remove thanx |
| 14:20.34 | jim | how can you tell if a server uses activex? |
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| 14:20.44 | yaboo | is hyper threading supported under linux |
| 14:20.50 | jethro | jim: use the source luke, and look at the html code it sends |
| 14:20.53 | PerfDave | yaboo: yes, but it's insecure under an yOS. |
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| 14:21.08 | sobersabre | nis->LDAP is it difficult ? |
| 14:21.10 | kensuke | jim, its not a server side thing, its a client side thing. Its embedded in the html |
| 14:21.20 | jim | jethro: the stuff I'm looking for is in the <head> tag? |
| 14:21.20 | PerfDave | sobersabre: There are scripts to translate for you. |
| 14:21.24 | yaboo | PerfDave, so don't compile HT in the kernel? |
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| 14:21.41 | tralala | dpkg: no thanx is CMD thanx (.*?) is $1: <reply> Congratulations, $1! You've just made the life of your keyboard one keystroke longer! |
| 14:21.42 | dpkg | tralala: okay |
| 14:21.45 | dos000 | hi, i am trying to ssh into multiple boxes using ssh tunnels. the problem is since they are all mapped to localhost ssh borks thinnking it is a new server ! |
| 14:21.47 | mrwill | lanchow: it is called 'raggle' |
| 14:21.48 | tralala | ah, I made it! |
| 14:21.50 | PerfDave | yaboo: You don't compile HT in the kernel, you just use an SMP kernel on a hyperthreaded box. |
| 14:21.53 | tralala | !win tralala |
| 14:21.54 | dpkg | Congratulations, tralala! You have won a one way ticket to Fire Island! |
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| 14:22.28 | lanchow | mrwill: thank you a lot, gonna try it right now |
| 14:22.29 | resiak | tralala: No, you didn't. |
| 14:22.38 | PerfDave | yaboo: Newer (as in bleeding-edge) kernels have a seperate kernel boot parameter to enable or disable hyperthreading, for use on hyperthreaded multiprocessor boxen. |
| 14:23.04 | jethro | !thanx tralala |
| 14:23.04 | dpkg | my pleasure, jethro |
| 14:23.08 | yaboo | PerfDave, ok |
| 14:23.12 | jethro | tralala: you lose! |
| 14:23.20 | resiak | thanx is part of the built-in. In any case, your syntax was wrong. |
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| 14:23.29 | jethro | tralala: it's cmd: thanx (.*?) |
| 14:23.34 | resiak | tralala: It's no, thanks $1 is <reply> Con... |
| 14:23.44 | jethro | !literal thanx |
| 14:23.45 | dpkg | thanx is CMD thanx (.*?) is $1: <reply> Congratulations, $1! You've just made the life of your keyboard one keystroke longer! |
| 14:23.56 | resiak | !forget thanx |
| 14:24.01 | Phated | Gross. |
| 14:24.27 | jim | Grosser, is all the things they eat on fear factor |
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| 14:25.00 | Phated | Peh. Testicles are high in... I dunno, protein or something. |
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| 14:25.15 | tralala | baah |
| 14:25.24 | Phated | And sheep too. |
| 14:25.33 | jethro | !tnx tralala |
| 14:25.34 | stouset | !thanx |
| 14:25.34 | dpkg | Congratulations, tralala! You've just made the life of your keyboard one keystroke longer! |
| 14:25.34 | dpkg | stouset: no worries |
| 14:25.35 | jharrisonwk | sheep are tasty |
| 14:25.36 | resiak | Phated: Where exactly do testicles come into anything? |
| 14:25.37 | jharrisonwk | mmmmmmmmmmm |
| 14:25.37 | jim | Testicals are high in sheep? |
| 14:25.38 | jethro | !tnx |
| 14:25.38 | dpkg | Really, "Thank you" will do. It's not too much to ask, is it? |
| 14:25.44 | jethro | cool I didn't even screw the tnx factoid |
| 14:25.54 | Phated | resiak: "things they eat on fear factor". |
| 14:26.03 | resiak | Phated: Oh. |
| 14:26.24 | tralala | jethro: so what's the format finally? |
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| 14:26.37 | jethro | !literal tnx $1 |
| 14:26.38 | dpkg | Congratulations, $1! You've just made the life of your keyboard one keystroke longer! |
| 14:26.42 | brader | how can I restart x easily? |
| 14:26.48 | tralala | btw with tnx it doesn't really make sense. |
| 14:26.50 | resiak | jethro: literal cmd: tnx (.*?) |
| 14:26.55 | jethro | resiak: inded |
| 14:26.57 | jim | brader: rubber hammer? |
| 14:26.57 | jasoncohen | brader, ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X |
| 14:27.24 | jim | well it will kill the server... |
| 14:27.36 | Phated | And if you have *dm, restart it. |
| 14:27.41 | jim | if you're running some ?dm, it will restart |
| 14:27.58 | jim | if not, you have to startx |
| 14:28.21 | resiak | Am I the only one being /noticed by LoonaTick|afk |
| 14:28.27 | Phated | Yesh. |
| 14:28.29 | resiak | Oh. |
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| 14:28.48 | tralala | dpkg: thanx $1 is Congratulations, $1! You've just made the life of your keyboard one keystroke longer! |
| 14:28.48 | dpkg | tralala: sure thing |
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| 14:28.58 | tralala | dpkg: no thanx $1 is Congratulations, $1! You've just made the life of your keyboard one keystroke longer! |
| 14:28.58 | dpkg | okay, tralala |
| 14:29.06 | tralala | !thanx tralala |
| 14:29.06 | dpkg | tralala: de rien |
| 14:29.13 | tralala | aaaarghhh |
| 14:29.14 | jim | !no thanx |
| 14:29.16 | jethro | tralala: it's a builtin |
| 14:29.18 | resiak | tralala: And it's not going to work, since thanx is a builtin. |
| 14:29.19 | Phated | FFS, just fucking DROP it. |
| 14:29.20 | jethro | tralala: you can't override it |
| 14:29.21 | tralala | fuck it |
| 14:29.33 | yaboo | getting unrecognized kernel version when I try dhclient eth2 |
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| 14:29.44 | YaleR | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:30.02 | jim | YaleR: man tune2fs |
| 14:30.10 | tralala | alias will work though |
| 14:31.10 | jim | YaleR: /msg dpkg sicco /msg dpkg smart questions |
| 14:31.24 | YaleR | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.31 | YaleR | geh |
| 14:32.15 | jim | point is, you'll get help faster if you follow those guidelines |
| 14:32.23 | jim | and maybe even s/faster // |
| 14:32.29 | YaleR | this is proving to be a problem that is too small for the amount of time I'm putting towards it |
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| 14:33.01 | jim | well |
| 14:33.21 | jim | consider it an investment in your own technical communication ability |
| 14:33.54 | jim | you can also consider it an invitation to participate as a peer |
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| 14:34.23 | YaleR | just following a tutorial and a command doesn't work |
| 14:34.24 | tralala | YaleR: still the smart questions is an investment that will pay off with the time |
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| 14:35.34 | jim | YaleR: at present all that stuff is moot wrt the channel... we still don't know what you're having problems with |
| 14:36.27 | YaleR | want me to explain? |
| 14:36.28 | YaleR | :) |
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| 14:36.37 | Om | Is there any command(s) (netstat maybe?) which will let me view the traffic on any or all sockets I have open on my machine? :) |
| 14:36.55 | PerfDave | Om: View in what way? If you want to look at the contents, use tcpdump. |
| 14:37.21 | tralala | Om: tcpdump and iptraf |
| 14:37.25 | YaleR | First Step: We need to locate the partition on which this sector of |
| 14:37.27 | YaleR | the disk lives: |
| 14:37.28 | Om | View the data which is moving through the socket. Thanks, I'll have a look at tcpdump :) |
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| 14:37.40 | YaleR | but... fdisk -lu /dev/hda gives me: |
| 14:37.43 | Om | Thanks PerfDave tralala |
| 14:37.55 | tralala | np |
| 14:38.02 | YaleR | oh next step... sorry for that. |
| 14:38.23 | tralala | !enter |
| 14:38.23 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help. |
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| 14:38.56 | Om | Errr, what package would iptraf and tcpdump be in? I don't seem to have either of them. :) |
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| 14:39.15 | PerfDave | Om: /msg dpkg search |
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| 14:39.25 | YaleR | I just need to check my block sizes, anyone know of another method other then tune2fs? |
| 14:39.41 | bbrazil | Om: make a guess |
| 14:40.29 | caphuso | YaleR: dumpe2fs |
| 14:40.32 | tralala | YaleR: what does google say about it? |
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| 14:41.34 | jasoncohen | why does http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/debian/all.html shows 18 RC bus and http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ show 26? |
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| 14:42.59 | LeoNerd | Does anyone know if the "pppoe" package requires a pppoe-enabled kernel.., or whether it's entirely userland just using a raw network socket? The docs are inspecific on this issue... |
| 14:43.07 | LeoNerd | (in debian/stable, by the way...) |
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| 14:43.42 | greycat | given that stable (woody) ships with a 2.2.x kernel, and that 2.2.x kernels have no kernelspace pppoe, I'd say, no, it doesn't require kernel pppoe. |
| 14:43.47 | LeoNerd | Using pppoe version 3.3-1.2, kernel 2.4.28. |
| 14:44.09 | tralala | LeoNerd: why don't you try it and see? |
| 14:44.24 | LeoNerd | Well, I am trying it. It fails. I am wondering if my kernel, or something else, is to blame. |
| 14:44.28 | mne | hi there ! has anyone experience with postfix and an SQL database for virtual mail hosting ? I configured my database/postfix like described in various HOWTOs, unfortunately postfix hangs when trying to send mail. any hints ? |
| 14:44.42 | greycat | mne: ask #postfix |
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| 14:44.57 | brader | Man I really screwed the pooch and ned some serious help |
| 14:44.59 | mne | greycat, i'll have a look there, thx |
| 14:45.01 | LeoNerd | If I know it doesn't need a PPPoE kernel, then I can rule out the fact my kernel doesn't have it as a reason for breakage. |
| 14:45.07 | brader | I was trying to get a USB mouse to work |
| 14:45.25 | brader | So I followed the instruction of the page that dpkg refrences |
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| 14:45.47 | brader | Now my mouse keeps shooting back to the bottom left corner and it selects everythign it touches |
| 14:46.01 | LeoNerd | brader: probably you have the wrong protocol set for it... |
| 14:46.10 | tralala | LeoNerd: try grep -i pppoe /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 14:46.20 | brader | Is there a shortcut key in KDE to get console? |
| 14:46.37 | tralala | brader: you can configure one even if there isn't |
| 14:46.47 | LeoNerd | tralala: Yes; I know how to determine kernel config. I know for definate that this kernel -doesn't- have PPPoE. What I wondered, is whether it is needed, for the pppoe package to work. |
| 14:46.54 | brader | tralala really without a mouse? |
| 14:47.08 | tralala | brader: yes |
| 14:47.21 | LeoNerd | brader: press Ctrl+Alt+F2, and use the virtual console. |
| 14:47.27 | YaleR | the problem is I can't locate a superblock |
| 14:47.54 | tralala | LeoNerd: if there is a pppoe option in the kernel than it is a pretty strong suggestion that it's needed for pppoe to run |
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| 14:48.04 | jim | I'm trying to make a Packages file for a collection of debs in the same dir where they're in |
| 14:48.17 | LeoNerd | tralala: not really.. The RP PPPoE daemon was initially written precicely because the kernel doesn't support it, it was a 100% userland implementation. |
| 14:48.35 | LeoNerd | Recently, support has been added to the kernel, so RP PPPoE can be built to use that instead. I wondered which was the case in debian. |
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| 14:48.45 | Isumi | when will sarge be released? |
| 14:48.49 | greycat | jim: dpkg-scan<TAB> |
| 14:49.03 | jim | the way I'm invoking apt-ftparchive is... |
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| 14:49.29 | jim | cd (the place where the debs are) |
| 14:49.42 | jim | apt-ftparchive packages $(pwd) | gzip > Packages.gz |
| 14:50.07 | jim | the error I get when I try to fetch from that archive is... |
| 14:50.24 | jim | Failed to fetch file:///home/jim/d-i-sarge/custom-2.6.11-images/udebs//home/jim/d-i-sarge/custom-2.6.11-images/udebs/input-modules-2.6.11-1-386-di_1.03_i386.udeb File not found |
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| 14:50.37 | jim | oh, and the sources.list line is... |
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| 14:51.01 | PeTeRB | Isumi: /topic |
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| 14:51.25 | LeoNerd | jim: note the path it's looking up. Note it has your /home... in there twice. I suspect fiddling with working directory settings, etc... |
| 14:51.26 | Isumi | thanks PeTeRB, I didnt see it |
| 14:51.27 | jim | deb file:///home/jim/d-i-sarge/custom-2.6.11-images/udebs ./ |
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| 14:51.42 | jim | LeoNerd: yeah, did notice that |
| 14:51.43 | YaleR | jim: could you pay a visit to #dump? |
| 14:52.09 | brader | does anyone have a second to tell me what the default for input pointer is in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 is? |
| 14:52.10 | jim | how would that help me? |
| 14:52.21 | YaleR | it may help me :) |
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| 14:52.54 | S4nD3r_ | Hi there... How to share my printer with windows+linux clients? |
| 14:53.06 | jethro | S4nD3r_: samba |
| 14:53.18 | jim | I'm not interested in doing that |
| 14:53.37 | brader | if I delete XF86Config-4 will it recreate itself when I reconfigure X? |
| 14:53.44 | resiak | !xmd5 |
| 14:53.44 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 14:54.19 | brader | I tried that it didn;t work |
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| 14:54.39 | brader | It changed nothing |
| 14:54.44 | greycat | brader: so put it back. |
| 14:54.45 | YaleR | isn't ext3 the same as ext2? e2fsck is complaining that it is not a ext2 partition of that I have bad superblocks |
| 14:54.47 | brader | This really freaking blows |
| 14:54.59 | brader | I don't knwo ahat I changed |
| 14:55.00 | PerfDave | YaleR: ext3 is an ext2 partition with a journal |
| 14:55.02 | greycat | !tell brader about confmiss |
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| 14:55.24 | brader | I can't even read that greycat I have no mouse control and I can't figure out the keyboards commands to navigate |
| 14:55.34 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 14:55.56 | brader | I tried to get a usb mouse to work and it failed and now I can't use my normal mouse to fi it |
| 14:56.28 | S4nD3r_ | Where are the .deb that is installed? |
| 14:56.30 | brader | so I am hoping that there is somethign I can do to get it to work |
| 14:56.35 | jim | brader: restore your original situation |
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| 14:56.40 | brader | jim how? |
| 14:56.51 | dort | remember what you did and undo it |
| 14:56.53 | jim | first find what your original situation is |
| 14:56.55 | brader | I followed the instructions abotu the md5sum and it did nothing |
| 14:56.56 | jim | and restore that |
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| 14:57.03 | brader | jim I can't navigate |
| 14:57.13 | jethro | dpkg --purge then reinstall |
| 14:57.21 | jim | ctrl-alt-F1 |
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| 14:57.29 | jim | then log in |
| 14:57.32 | brader | OK what is Xfree86 package name? |
| 14:57.41 | jim | time to learn the shell :) |
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| 14:57.48 | brader | I know shell |
| 14:57.54 | jim | good deal :) |
| 14:57.56 | brader | I don;t know how to get to it from x |
| 14:57.59 | jethro | brader: man dpkg /-l |
| 14:57.59 | Phated | Time to learn apt-cache. |
| 14:58.04 | jim | ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 14:58.06 | jim | then log in |
| 14:58.12 | jim | (second repeat) |
| 14:58.17 | brader | thanks I try that |
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| 14:59.24 | S4nD3r_ | I installed a cups package, but this doesnt create printers.conf file... how to install it correctelly??? |
| 14:59.27 | Knight_Lord | Has anyone ever had problems with a Supermicro p4sci motherboard and 15 disks? I can boot with 14 but with 15 is simply freezes. |
| 14:59.37 | Knight_Lord | I tested out in 2 different computers |
| 14:59.37 | S4nD3r_ | Id like to remove the .deb package, but I dont know there it is |
| 14:59.56 | greycat | S4nD3r_: man dpkg |
| 14:59.57 | jim | Knight_Lord: sounds like a hardware issue, maybe a power issue |
| 15:00.26 | Knight_Lord | jim not a power issue as i over other servers working fine with the same power |
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| 15:00.44 | jim | Knight_Lord: with 15 disks? |
| 15:00.47 | Knight_Lord | yes |
| 15:00.57 | delire | big fun for vim users: http://vifm.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:01.01 | jim | ok, same hardware exactly? |
| 15:01.09 | Knight_Lord | raid controllers are 3ware 9500-8s |
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| 15:01.25 | Knight_Lord | 15x400GB hard drives |
| 15:01.31 | jim | ok, same hardware exactly? |
| 15:01.42 | Knight_Lord | there are very similar |
| 15:01.49 | Knight_Lord | the only difference i can find is the motherboard |
| 15:01.52 | jim | same operating system? |
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| 15:02.08 | Knight_Lord | jim yes although it never actually reaches the operative system |
| 15:02.08 | delire | .. playing with it now, dd and p to move a file to a new dir, y and p to copy. :s for sort modes and plenty of regexp |
| 15:02.17 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 15:02.17 | dpkg | i guess qotd47 is <g4lt> okay, in a fit of complete irony, reportbug is puking on upgrade |
| 15:02.17 | jim | on the one that works?? |
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| 15:02.34 | Knight_Lord | jim debian woody on the one that works |
| 15:02.36 | Lee__ | why doesn't 'tar --list foo.tar' output the list of the archive? |
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| 15:02.48 | jim | Knight_Lord: and the one that does not has? |
| 15:02.50 | tarzeau | Lee__: you forgot f |
| 15:02.54 | Lee__ | ah, thanks |
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| 15:03.00 | Knight_Lord | jim i was trying to install debian woody also |
| 15:03.09 | Knight_Lord | jim i can't even boot from the cdrom |
| 15:03.20 | jim | ok |
| 15:03.24 | Knight_Lord | jim not even from the floopy |
| 15:03.33 | Knight_Lord | another interesting fact |
| 15:03.36 | jim | so the difference is the motherboard, as far as you've said so far |
| 15:03.40 | Knight_Lord | yes |
| 15:03.52 | Knight_Lord | is that this is what happens when i export disks as JBOD |
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| 15:04.02 | Knight_Lord | if i use 2 raid 0 arrays with the 15 disks |
| 15:04.08 | Knight_Lord | 8+7 |
| 15:04.10 | Knight_Lord | actually |
| 15:04.15 | Knight_Lord | 2 arrays and 1 jbod |
| 15:04.19 | Knight_Lord | 7+7+1 |
| 15:04.22 | Knight_Lord | it boots |
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| 15:04.31 | Knight_Lord | (i mean hardware raid 0 arrays) |
| 15:04.33 | jim | what's a jbod? |
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| 15:04.43 | Knight_Lord | it's simply exporting the disk |
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| 15:04.57 | Knight_Lord | (just a bunch of disks) |
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| 15:05.22 | jim | so you can get the working one working by doing a specific arrangement of the disks? |
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| 15:05.27 | jim | err |
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| 15:05.32 | jim | again... |
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| 15:05.39 | jim | so you can get the NOT-working one working by doing a specific arrangement of the disks? |
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| 15:05.46 | Knight_Lord | exactly |
| 15:05.47 | mrwoody | does anyone know why there is no nvidia-kernel-2.4.29 version 1.0.7174, since everything else has that version? |
| 15:06.01 | jim | what arrangement do the working ones have? |
| 15:06.20 | Knight_Lord | jim the working one has all the disks as jbod and software raid on top |
| 15:06.20 | brader | hmm I purged reinstalled and restarted xserver-xfree86 and x-window-system-core and it didn't work |
| 15:06.23 | S4nD3r_ | How do I recreate the .conf files from my cups ?? |
| 15:06.28 | Knight_Lord | jim which was what i was trying to replicate |
| 15:06.35 | Knight_Lord | jim with no success |
| 15:06.49 | jim | why are you doing software raid when you have a hw raid controller? |
| 15:07.04 | Knight_Lord | jim that's a long discussion |
| 15:07.06 | brader | OMG software raid ;-) |
| 15:07.20 | jim | ok well |
| 15:07.28 | jim | I was just curious |
| 15:07.29 | Knight_Lord | jim simple argument is i get more space with software raid |
| 15:07.30 | brader | damn mice OK I guess I will just freaking delete the file and pray for the best |
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| 15:07.55 | Knight_Lord | as i get 1 array with 15 instead of 2 with 7+8 |
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| 15:08.04 | Knight_Lord | (so only 1 redudant disk instead of 2) |
| 15:08.07 | jim | brader: you'd be messing with package management if the file you delete is in /usr |
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| 15:08.28 | mrwoody | does anyone know why there is no nvidia-kernel-2.4.29 version 1.0.7174, since everything else has that version? |
| 15:08.39 | Knight_Lord | jim it's also actually faster for writing |
| 15:08.54 | Knight_Lord | (which sounds rather strange) |
| 15:09.00 | jasoncohen | i saw an interesting post on slashdot which stated that "Unstable is sometimes preferred over Testing as a desktop because there is no wait for security updates to migrate." Is the faster security updates worth the increased instablity |
| 15:09.03 | LordWolF | please anyboady that have set up a transparent proxy |
| 15:09.13 | LordWolF | im having problems with my iptables command |
| 15:09.16 | jim | mrwoody: aren't you the horse that Nash Bridge's dad owns? |
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| 15:09.45 | K_Dallas | jasoncohen, have you ever been compromised due to security holes? |
| 15:09.46 | jim | Knight_Lord: yeah, does sound strange |
| 15:10.02 | jasoncohen | K_Dallas, no- or at least i don't have any knowledge of a compromise |
| 15:10.10 | jim | what kind of raid are you putting over the hardware raid? |
| 15:10.18 | jasoncohen | i guess it would also depend on the relative stablity of unstable v. testing |
| 15:10.24 | Knight_Lord | jim i dont want to use hardware raid |
| 15:10.27 | K_Dallas | so i think the whole issue with security patches etc is blown a little bit or more out of proportion |
| 15:10.31 | Knight_Lord | jim i didn't put anything on top |
| 15:10.48 | jim | you just said you put software raid on top |
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| 15:10.55 | jim | just wondering what kind |
| 15:11.06 | Knight_Lord | jim not on top of hardware raid, on top of simply jbod. But software raid 5 |
| 15:11.22 | Knight_Lord | jim mdadm |
| 15:11.26 | kombi | there was some way to only allow certain users for ssh, I just can't remember where the file was.. |
| 15:11.32 | Knight_Lord | jim with xfs |
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| 15:12.09 | kombi | ssh user-allow or something? |
| 15:12.11 | Knight_Lord | jim i get around 120MB/s writing compared to 100MB/s from a single hardware raid card |
| 15:12.22 | jim | how much space do you lose going with hw raid? |
| 15:12.34 | Knight_Lord | jim 800GB |
| 15:12.37 | mrwoody | does anyone know why there is no nvidia-kernel-2.4.29 version 1.0.7174, since everything else has that version? |
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| 15:12.47 | jim | so the equiv of 2 disks |
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| 15:12.52 | Knight_Lord | jim yup |
| 15:13.03 | Knight_Lord | jim compared to software |
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| 15:13.06 | PerfDave | mrwoody: Make your own with module-assistant; /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 15:13.07 | wwallace | hello 2 all |
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| 15:13.16 | wwallace | how do i know if java is in my path? |
| 15:13.23 | jethro | wwallace: which java |
| 15:13.25 | jim | wwallace: which java |
| 15:13.26 | PerfDave | wwallace: echo $PATH |
| 15:13.27 | Knight_Lord | jim to a total of 4 disks in 15 (2 redundants plus 2 hotspares) |
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| 15:13.33 | greycat | wwallace: java <enter> |
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| 15:13.54 | kombi | how do you restrict access to sshd? |
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| 15:14.06 | jethro | kombi: you have different ways |
| 15:14.07 | greycat | kombi: man sshd_config |
| 15:14.10 | jim | wwallace: or better yet... learn how to set the path |
| 15:14.18 | greycat | !wikifaq wwallace DotFiles |
| 15:14.18 | dpkg | wwallace: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 15:14.22 | jim | and how to read an already-set path |
| 15:14.30 | onep | Can anyone comment on stability of hyperthreading in 2.4 vs 2.6? |
| 15:14.48 | jethro | onep: not in #debian |
| 15:14.54 | wwallace | im trying to install xmame gui |
| 15:14.56 | onep | jethro: thanks. |
| 15:15.06 | kombi | greycat - jethro: so it was that file, thx! |
| 15:15.12 | PerfDave | Hmm, OOI does the hyperthreading security hole affect twin-core amd64 systems as well as P4s? |
| 15:15.34 | wwallace | but it tells me i must first have These instructions assume that you have Java set up in your path. If not, please refer to the Java homepage to see how to do this |
| 15:15.39 | jethro | PerfDave: they said you can't reproduce it on 2.6, but 2.4 kernels are affected |
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| 15:16.07 | jim | wwallace: what OS are you running? |
| 15:16.08 | jethro | PerfDave: well, they have not been able to reproduce it on 2.6, which might not imply that it's indeed not affecting 2.6 kernels |
| 15:16.18 | wwallace | debian |
| 15:16.22 | PerfDave | jethro: Evidence of absence is not absence of evidence ;) |
| 15:16.32 | jethro | PerfDave: that's why I added the second statement |
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| 15:16.38 | wwallace | sid |
| 15:16.40 | wwallace | i guess |
| 15:16.52 | jasoncohen | is package migration from unstable to testing unusually slow now because of the freeze? |
| 15:16.55 | jim | it would be if you had evidence of absense of evidence! |
| 15:17.00 | jethro | jasoncohen: yes |
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| 15:17.46 | stew | jasoncohen: non-existant because of the freeze except for special cases |
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| 15:17.58 | jasoncohen | jethro, so, after sarge is released, testing will return to the default policy of accepting unstable packages if they're compiled on all architectures, don't create any more severe bugs and have been out for 2/5/10 days? |
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| 15:18.09 | Knight_Lord | I just went to recheck and the motherboard is actually the same |
| 15:18.18 | jethro | jasoncohen: I don't know about the delays, but I d say yes |
| 15:18.24 | Knight_Lord | this doesn't make any sense |
| 15:18.47 | Eyecon | hi, I'm trying to get my logitech bluetooth mouse working with sarge, I'm using the debian 2.6.8 binary kernel package |
| 15:18.52 | jethro | jasoncohen: I m not using testing much so I couldn't tell you how it lives |
| 15:18.53 | wwallace | can anyone check the following instructions and tell me if i can do that in debian? please? http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/xmamegui.php |
| 15:19.00 | jasoncohen | jethro, what do you use? |
| 15:19.16 | Eyecon | I have it working, my mouse is usable, but after a while of being idle it will stop working |
| 15:19.37 | Eyecon | and then I'll have to do "hidd --connect <bluetoothid>" again |
| 15:19.48 | K_Dallas | Eyecon, is it by any chance a wireless mouse? |
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| 15:19.51 | jethro | jasoncohen: I use sid as a desktop, also on a testbed, and recently got myself a sarge system, which is where my testing experience began |
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| 15:20.01 | Eyecon | K_Dallas: it's a bluetooth wireless mouse |
| 15:20.09 | jasoncohen | jethro, and you find sid stable enough for desktop usage? |
| 15:20.13 | K_Dallas | might be problem with the charge! |
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| 15:20.39 | jethro | jasoncohen: I ve been able to fix the problems I got so far. but there've been nasty ones, and you need to use a few tools to avoid them |
| 15:20.39 | Eyecon | K_Dallas: no, after I do the bluetooth reconnect it works again, and the batteries are fully charged |
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| 15:20.49 | jethro | jasoncohen: in any case, I ll never recommend the use of sid |
| 15:20.51 | K_Dallas | ok, just a thought ;) |
| 15:20.59 | paulswm | @win jethro |
| 15:20.59 | ravenbird | Congratulations, jethro! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 15:21.02 | Eyecon | I saw docs saying that if I ran "hidd --server" then it would allow auto-reconnects |
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| 15:21.12 | Eyecon | but that doesn't seem to do so for me at least |
| 15:21.19 | jasoncohen | jethro, i'm currently using testing on my desktop and my mythtv backend/frontend system |
| 15:21.20 | Eyecon | anyone else using a bluetooth mouse on sarge? |
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| 15:22.00 | jim | Knight_Lord: logs say anything? but you can't even boot can you? |
| 15:22.07 | jasoncohen | i'm impressed by how well upgrades work. Even after upgrades of KDE, Xfree86 and the kernel, i've had no issues and apt-get upgrade works w/o issue each time. I wish i had that in mandrake |
| 15:22.17 | Knight_Lord | jim yea logs right :-P |
| 15:22.21 | jethro | jasoncohen: the problem with using sid is that you no longer get support in #debian, or very few support. so you have to be able to understand and fix everything, or find solutions by yourself. that's why no one in #debian recommends the use of sid. |
| 15:22.34 | Knight_Lord | jim i would be happy with a cannot find boot sector message |
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| 15:23.09 | jasoncohen | jethro, i like testing from what i see but i began using it after the freeze so I don't know what to expect in terms of getting security updates. |
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| 15:23.17 | Knight_Lord | jasoncohen if you don't apt-get upgrade very often sid is fine |
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| 15:24.16 | jethro | Knight_Lord: if you don't upgrade, it's not sid, barely a snapshot |
| 15:24.18 | jim | and if you choose carefully when you upgrade |
| 15:24.27 | PerfDave | jethro: No, nobody recommends sid because it can blow up and make your system unusable and eat all your data :) |
| 15:24.37 | jethro | jasoncohen: testing and sid have no security updates |
| 15:24.40 | hans_ | is there a key in ubuntu with which i can swich back to desktop while playing a game like the windows key? |
| 15:24.51 | furrywolf | !ubuntu |
| 15:24.52 | dpkg | i guess ubuntu is ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879, or "Based on Debian" like Hollywood movies are "Based on a true story", or I'm not Debian but I play one on TV. |
| 15:24.52 | PerfDave | hans_: #ubuntu |
| 15:24.59 | jim | I thought testing does have security (see /topic) |
| 15:25.08 | hans_ | noone has an answer there |
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| 15:25.14 | kombi | in order to use sftp, do you need ssh? |
| 15:25.16 | jasoncohen | jethro, well, sid gets release updates which are entered as priority high, so in that way it does get security updates |
| 15:25.17 | furrywolf | !they don't know |
| 15:25.17 | jethro | PerfDave: I ve never encountered data loss or system blowing up, but I agree |
| 15:25.17 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 15:25.24 | mith | why did i hear nonsense about sarge supposedly being slated to release yesterday? |
| 15:25.28 | PerfDave | kombi: You need an ssh server |
| 15:25.33 | jethro | jasoncohen: it's not really comparable to security updates debian has for stable |
| 15:25.33 | greycat | mith: old deadline. |
| 15:25.37 | bbrazil | mith: it was |
| 15:25.37 | PerfDave | mith: Sarge was slated to release yesterday, about a month ago. |
| 15:25.43 | hans_ | fudge u |
| 15:25.45 | Roolianer23 | hi, when i dow apt-get update && apt-get upgrade i have a lot of packages that have been kept back. how can i update these packages? |
| 15:25.46 | jim | hans_: we'd have to learn ubunto to help you |
| 15:25.47 | mith | greycat: ah |
| 15:25.47 | PerfDave | sid doesn't get security updates, it gets fersion updates. |
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| 15:25.57 | PerfDave | !not supporting ubuntu |
| 15:25.58 | dpkg | We have enough trouble not supporting Debian, without trying to not support ubuntu too. Try #ubuntu or donating money to charity. |
| 15:26.24 | RichiH | !fersion |
| 15:26.40 | mith | not that I care, I was just wondering why everyone decided to tell me this yesterday, and then bitch to me that it didn't happen this morning |
| 15:26.40 | PerfDave | hans_: Try asking #knoppix about your Ubuntu problem, that's Debian-based too. |
| 15:26.52 | jethro | hah |
| 15:27.02 | PeTeRB | Roolianer23: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:27.19 | Roolianer23 | PeTeRB, isn this a kind of dangerous? |
| 15:27.34 | PerfDave | Roolianer23: Read the apt-get manual. |
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| 15:27.52 | jasoncohen | should regular system upgrades be done as dist-upgrade or upgrade? |
| 15:27.54 | Roolianer23 | PeTeRB, and why have they been kept bakc? |
| 15:28.00 | schrankwand | how can I avoid that surpc is listen to the port 111, everytime? |
| 15:28.18 | schrankwand | s/surpc/sunrpc/ |
| 15:28.22 | PeTeRB | Roolianer23: Because new versions have more dependencies |
| 15:28.30 | kombi | am I correct: in order to provide sftp access to multiple users, you need ssh with chroot |
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| 15:28.36 | PeTeRB | Roolianer23: /msg dpkg why not dist upgrade |
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| 15:28.52 | tarzeau | is there a list of all cpu family and model of /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 15:29.01 | Roolianer23 | PeTeRB, no message... |
| 15:29.14 | tarzeau | are debian kernels 4gb or 1gb memory kernels? |
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| 15:29.37 | kombi | I believe 1GB |
| 15:29.38 | stew | tarzeau: 2.6 kernels are 4gb |
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| 15:30.00 | PeTeRB | Roolianer23: There is |
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| 15:30.06 | gahan | System bootup in progress - please wait |
| 15:30.06 | gahan | Password: |
| 15:30.08 | stew | tarzeau: i know for sure that kernels > 2.6.8-1 are 4gb, haven't checked a recent 2.4 |
| 15:30.10 | gahan | is terhe any way to login? |
| 15:30.13 | jethro | kombi: no you don't _need_ chroot, but you need sshd or any other sftp implementation available |
| 15:30.20 | furrywolf | I think debian kernels are 4gb... tomsrtbt I've noticed isn't. :) |
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| 15:30.25 | kombi | stew: sure? set up a sarge box with Kernel 2.6, wouldn't recognize 4 GB of mem |
| 15:30.48 | lynxx | hi, what's the difference between sysklogd and syslog ? |
| 15:30.51 | PerfDave | Depends on the 2.6 kernel. |
| 15:30.53 | jasoncohen | so, when i do regular upgrades should i use upgrade or dist-upgrade? |
| 15:31.03 | tarzeau | i would like to find out from /proc/cpuinfo if i want to install a p1,p3,p4 or k7 kernel |
| 15:31.06 | JayBox | anyone around who could help me wiht finishing off configuring my wireless network adapter? |
| 15:31.07 | tarzeau | what would i do? |
| 15:31.18 | PerfDave | kernel-image-2.6.8-10-amd64-k8-smp recognises all 8Gb of RAM in my system |
| 15:31.19 | tarzeau | that's the kernels we build for our (150 or so machines) |
| 15:31.29 | stew | kombi: i'm sure |
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| 15:31.47 | stew | kombi: i just checked 2 machines here running 2.6.8-1-686 |
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| 15:32.01 | kombi | stew: maybe that was my compiled one then |
| 15:32.10 | tarzeau | can you check the kernel config files? (i don't have debian kernels here) |
| 15:32.17 | stew | kombi: maybe non-686 is different |
| 15:32.39 | kombi | stew: I remember now, had to compile it for multi cpu and left out the 4GB option |
| 15:32.41 | jasoncohen | if i have a pentium 4 mobile chip, i should be using a -686 kernel, right? |
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| 15:33.04 | stew | jasoncohen: yes |
| 15:33.04 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: why not a p4 one? |
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| 15:33.11 | kombi | stew: so you're probably right |
| 15:33.19 | furrywolf | I always compile my own kernels... don't know what the debian config is. |
| 15:33.29 | jasoncohen | tarzeau, isn't 686 is the p4 one? i currently have 386 installed |
| 15:33.31 | tarzeau | how much cpu mhz did p1, p3, p4, k7 have? |
| 15:33.31 | kombi | anyone providing sftp to their users? |
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| 15:33.48 | directhex|work | p1 went to 233mhz |
| 15:33.54 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: no idea |
| 15:33.56 | directhex|work | p2 went to 500mhz |
| 15:33.57 | streuner_ | !i686 |
| 15:34.02 | streuner_ | !686 |
| 15:34.02 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M. |
| 15:34.03 | directhex|work | p4 went to 3800mhz |
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| 15:34.11 | tarzeau | and p3? |
| 15:34.12 | directhex|work | k7 went to 2400mhz |
| 15:34.21 | directhex|work | p3? 1133mhz i think |
| 15:34.27 | PeTeRB | p1 can have 99.509 :P |
| 15:34.28 | greycat | k7 low-end is around 650 MHz I think. |
| 15:34.28 | stew | kernel has a p4 option, but debian doesn't compile p4 specific kernels, 686 is the closest fit |
| 15:34.31 | streuner_ | tarzeau: Pentium 3 - i686 |
| 15:34.33 | kombi | tarzeau: I blieve p3 went to 500 |
| 15:34.44 | tarzeau | kombi: just like p2 then |
| 15:34.46 | directhex|work | greycat, the first athlons were 550mhz, on a slot-a package |
| 15:34.46 | furrywolf | p3s went to 1.3ghz or so |
| 15:34.49 | greycat | PeTeRB: you mean 229.9876 |
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| 15:35.28 | gtigene | What is the proper utility to synchronize my Debian box to a time server automatically, such as SNTP? |
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| 15:35.34 | PeTeRB | greycat: Does that mean my 100Mhz CPu is actuallt 230Mhz? :/ |
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| 15:35.38 | greycat | gtigene: /msg dpkg set the time |
| 15:35.44 | PeTeRB | s/llt/lly/ |
| 15:35.48 | greycat | PeTeRB: high end for a pentium I is 233 MHz |
| 15:35.52 | gtigene | greycat: Thnks. |
| 15:35.54 | Wanderer | bt? |
| 15:35.55 | tarzeau | ok thanks |
| 15:36.10 | jethro | sntp? |
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| 15:36.19 | PeTeRB | greycat: I didn't say 99.509 is the highest a p1 can have |
| 15:36.38 | lynxx | any idea what is the difference between the logrotate.conf and the sysklog script ? |
| 15:36.39 | greycat | 11:34 PeTeRB> p1 can have 99.509 :P |
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| 15:36.57 | uince | Hi! |
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| 15:37.10 | directhex|work | the most powerful x86 chip on the market is only 2.6ghz. costs lots though. |
| 15:37.24 | tarzeau | can -gt compare to numbers with decimals? |
| 15:37.33 | greycat | tarzeau: bash can't do floats. period. |
| 15:37.43 | tarzeau | directhex|work: not model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz |
| 15:37.45 | directhex|work | assuming you count an athlon fx-55 as the featest x86 chip available, rather than dual-core 2400mhz athlon 64's |
| 15:37.46 | greycat | ksh might be able to. |
| 15:37.56 | LordWolF | cl |
| 15:37.56 | tarzeau | greycat: but will it just ignore them or give bogus results? |
| 15:37.59 | furrywolf | I usually run everything through bc if I need funky math from a shell script... |
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| 15:38.01 | greycat | tarzeau: try and see |
| 15:38.05 | tarzeau | i ask because i want to know if i just have to stript them away or do nothing |
| 15:38.11 | directhex|work | tarzeau, 2.8 xeons arepretty sluggish compared to what's out there |
| 15:38.17 | uince | can you tell me any good file shearing program? (not xmule or amule)? |
| 15:38.17 | cbr | do you know any program that makes a nice html list of either a list of songs or a m3u playlist? |
| 15:38.19 | greycat | tarzeau: use awk or bc to compare floats |
| 15:38.21 | cbr | do you know any program that makes a nice html list of either a list of songs or a m3u playlist? |
| 15:38.28 | cbr | the html list should have things like total time etc |
| 15:38.28 | greycat | !tell cbr about repeat |
| 15:38.43 | cbr | it was an accident mkay, calm down |
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| 15:38.46 | greycat | uince: /msg dpkg gift |
| 15:38.57 | greycat | cbr: strike one. |
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| 15:39.08 | LordWolF | whats up furry |
| 15:39.10 | furrywolf | ouch? /me pokes gently! |
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| 15:39.36 | furrywolf | not much is up. still sick. :( |
| 15:39.41 | LordWolF | >:( |
| 15:39.47 | LordWolF | that sucks |
| 15:39.51 | analpear | i just took a debian |
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| 15:40.06 | analpear | my ass is still sore actually |
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| 15:40.23 | K_Dallas | of course, you took it the wrong way |
| 15:40.26 | LordWolF | im here trying to make a damn transparent proxy to work i feel my head hot >:/ |
| 15:40.49 | furrywolf | thinks |
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| 15:41.31 | mattl | is the correct channel for a dpkg upgrade problem? |
| 15:41.42 | furrywolf | mattl: as long as you use debian, yes |
| 15:41.45 | directhex|work | mattl, depends whether it's dpkg on debian |
| 15:41.49 | LordWolF | who has done a transparent proxy i just need a quick help |
| 15:41.58 | streuner_ | dpkg, i686 see 686 |
| 15:42.18 | jethro | !fgi LordWolF iptables+transparent+proxy |
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| 15:42.19 | dpkg | LordWolF: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=iptables+transparent+proxy |
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| 15:42.23 | analpear | why are the debian releases so slow? |
| 15:42.40 | greycat | !hurry |
| 15:42.40 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 15:42.44 | jethro | LordWolF: should be just one iptables line, and eventually a sysctl |
| 15:42.44 | jim | analpear: google for that question |
| 15:42.46 | streuner_ | whats the command to redirect for i686 to 686? |
| 15:42.49 | simonrvn | analpear: 'cause you're too anal to help out |
| 15:43.05 | analpear | they spend forever working on these versions which are invariably inferior, to say, ubuntu |
| 15:43.06 | usn | hi folx |
| 15:43.06 | jethro | analpear: you should write that "Y is debain so old?!!111" |
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| 15:43.17 | directhex|work | dpkg, 686 is also not correct for EM64T Xeon/Pentium4's, which should use a -em64t-p4 kernel |
| 15:43.17 | dpkg | okay, directhex|work |
| 15:43.23 | jim | analpear: ok so you're a troll |
| 15:43.26 | stouset | analpear: According to which criteria? |
| 15:43.32 | Lee__ | is there any point to a 2 gig swap partition with 1 gig of physical ram? |
| 15:43.33 | furrywolf | jim: you just noticed now? |
| 15:43.34 | kombi | is there a debian way to chroot ssh users? |
| 15:43.38 | simonrvn | analpear: g'bye troll. /ignore |
| 15:43.41 | analpear | well lol @ debian boot scripts |
| 15:43.43 | furrywolf | kombi: pam-chroot |
| 15:43.53 | jethro | !ops analpear is being an anal pain |
| 15:43.53 | PerfDave | !troll analpear |
| 15:43.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: analpear is being an anal pain |
| 15:43.56 | kombi | furrywolf: thx |
| 15:43.59 | LordWolF | jethro i have type the iptable line |
| 15:44.02 | stouset | analpear-- |
| 15:44.03 | LordWolF | but is still not working |
| 15:44.08 | jethro | !doesn't work |
| 15:44.08 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 15:44.20 | analpear | ah yes any criticism comes the way of your favourite OS and you denounce them as a troll |
| 15:44.22 | furrywolf | it's either chroot-pam or pam-chroot. you'd think after how long I argued with it to make it work I'd remember. :) |
| 15:44.24 | analpear | it's called a defense mechanism |
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| 15:44.41 | resiak | LoRez++ |
| 15:44.43 | LordWolF | ok no problem |
| 15:44.46 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 15:44.49 | streuner_ | haha |
| 15:44.59 | LordWolF | i type iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128 |
| 15:45.01 | simonrvn | w00t LoRez |
| 15:45.05 | mattl | i'm using debian testing. trying to run an upgrade and getting "mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does not appear to be active." - did i do something wrong by just running apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 15:45.17 | resiak | mattl: You mean update && blah. |
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| 15:45.31 | LordWolF | went to the userbox and add the gateway "ip of the proxy box" |
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| 15:45.43 | resiak | away Class. |
| 15:45.48 | mattl | resiak: i ran update first. |
| 15:45.58 | furrywolf | back in a bit |
| 15:46.01 | jethro | LordWolF: the whole point of transparent proxying is to get rid of client settings |
| 15:46.03 | LordWolF | when i search it doesn't do nothing, but when i go into the proxy settings and add the ip and port does work |
| 15:46.38 | lynxx | newbie need help with logrotate. I'm searching for a syslog file in /etc/logrotate.d any example plz ? |
| 15:46.46 | furrywolf | !plz |
| 15:46.47 | dpkg | i guess plz is german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel. L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
| 15:47.05 | paulswm | @say !test |
| 15:47.05 | ravenbird | !test |
| 15:47.05 | dpkg | No, ravenbird, you're not online any more. |
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| 15:47.17 | jethro | LordWolF: did you do sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 |
| 15:47.19 | LordWolF | ok but in the tutorial i was reading said to add the "ip" in the computer that is going to use the transparent proxy cause is going to read from that "ip" |
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| 15:47.26 | LordWolF | no |
| 15:47.27 | Ebola | hi, are you the bunch of pricks everyone's been telling me about? |
| 15:47.36 | paulswm | @say !singlishsmite Ebola |
| 15:47.36 | ravenbird | !singlishsmite Ebola |
| 15:47.37 | dpkg | Ebola: Say some more, lah! Like I care! |
| 15:47.42 | PerfDave | Ebola: No, we're a totally different bunch of pricks. |
| 15:47.42 | Lee__ | Wow, the trolls are out today |
| 15:47.42 | RichiH | Ebola: nope |
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| 15:47.47 | simonrvn | Ebola: /ignore |
| 15:47.48 | RichiH | we are the other pricks |
| 15:47.53 | furrywolf | assuming it's not the same troll... |
| 15:48.00 | jim | !ops Ebola abuse |
| 15:48.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Ebola abuse |
| 15:48.04 | Lee__ | Ebola: head on over to #asterisk, you'll find some there. |
| 15:48.12 | analpear | debian fails it |
| 15:48.16 | Ebola | No, some other troll |
| 15:48.20 | mattl | analpear: fails what? |
| 15:48.23 | Lee__ | oh christ! |
| 15:48.24 | Ebola | Anyway, it was just a bet |
| 15:48.24 | jethro | !ops analpear is back |
| 15:48.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: analpear is back |
| 15:48.27 | kombi | furrywolf: can one safely apt-get install libpam-chroot on a production box? |
| 15:48.28 | Ebola | Thanks for the help |
| 15:48.29 | Ebola | Bye |
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| 15:48.31 | Lee__ | can he just be banned? |
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| 15:48.37 | LoRez | that was a different host. |
| 15:48.41 | bob2 | Lee__: it's a different ip each time |
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| 15:48.47 | Lee__ | damn, sucky |
| 15:48.50 | jethro | damn morons.. |
| 15:48.51 | LordWolF | enet01:/etc/squid# sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 |
| 15:48.51 | LordWolF | error: 'net.ipv4.ip_forward' must be of the form name=value |
| 15:48.51 | LordWolF | error: Malformed setting '=' |
| 15:48.52 | LordWolF | error: '1' must be of the form name=value |
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| 15:48.54 | furrywolf | kombi: it doesn't do anything unless you configure it, iirc. |
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| 15:49.01 | RichiH | what about a ban on analpear!*@*? |
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| 15:49.04 | simonrvn | buncha duhs... |
| 15:49.05 | mattl | is it always this bad in here? |
| 15:49.06 | LordWolF | sorry |
| 15:49.08 | PerfDave | What a shame I no longer know the network admin at Bristol Uni :) |
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| 15:49.11 | PerfDave | mattl: No. |
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| 15:49.16 | simonrvn | mattl: no |
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| 15:49.22 | PerfDave | mattl: Normally the channel is just full of morons, no trolls ;) |
| 15:49.23 | jethro | LordWolF: s/ = /=/ |
| 15:49.26 | cmug | LordWolF, its prolly net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 |
| 15:49.31 | cmug | not ..forward = 1 |
| 15:49.32 | streuner_ | mattl: no - its usually 1 troll and then its ok... |
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| 15:49.35 | RichiH | bob2: caphuso just did that ;) |
| 15:49.38 | Lee__ | LordWolF: spaces are evil in sysctl |
| 15:49.44 | LordWolF | ohh ok |
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| 15:49.59 | kombi | furrywolf: where's the conf file for it? |
| 15:50.03 | caphuso | RichiH: doppelt hält besser :-) |
| 15:50.10 | kombi | (installed it already..) |
| 15:50.17 | RichiH | caphuso: das war aber mit ner heissen nadel gestrickt ;) |
| 15:50.19 | furrywolf | kombi: you really ought to rtfm before playing with it... |
| 15:50.24 | simonrvn | caphuso: '2 are better'? |
| 15:50.29 | mattl | maybe all the trolls are out because sarge was mentioned on /. |
| 15:50.31 | kombi | true.. |
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| 15:50.39 | caphuso | simonrvn: twice is better |
| 15:50.40 | RichiH | simonrvn: 'sewing it twice holds better' |
| 15:50.41 | jethro | mattl: that wouldn't be surprising |
| 15:50.48 | kombi | furrywolf: where is tfm though? |
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| 15:50.57 | simonrvn | aah. close though :) |
| 15:51.00 | caphuso | don't know what the non-literal translations is |
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| 15:51.23 | RichiH | caphuso: i would say 'better do it twice' would be appropriate |
| 15:51.24 | rijakr | Anyone know a site off the top of their head for bootstrapping & making live CD for debian? |
| 15:51.30 | RichiH | or 'do it twice to be sure' |
| 15:51.32 | furrywolf | http://sourceforge.net/projects/pam-chroot/ <== first match on google... |
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| 15:51.33 | kombi | furrywolf: can't even find it on packages.debian.org |
| 15:51.38 | kombi | ok, thx |
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| 15:51.48 | furrywolf | bbl |
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| 15:52.09 | jim | rijakr: you can try setting up debian-cd, but that's -not- easy |
| 15:52.22 | bob2 | jim: are you sure that does a livecd? |
| 15:52.24 | jethro | kombi: you tried libpam-chroot? |
| 15:52.25 | rijakr | I'm interested in making a livecd for wireless testing |
| 15:52.27 | jim | no |
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| 15:52.31 | Phated | PerfDave: Perhaps directhex|work does! :) |
| 15:52.36 | kombi | jethro: yip |
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| 15:52.48 | bob2 | rijakr: why not just an existing one? |
| 15:52.50 | jim | has anyone ever done a live cd of debian? |
| 15:52.52 | streuner_ | Phated: no - for sure :-) |
| 15:52.56 | mattl | rijakr: you might be better off with one of the existing live-cds.. they're aready out there. |
| 15:53.01 | rijakr | There are certain things I need, so I figure I can make a custom one. |
| 15:53.06 | kombi | jethro: am I doomed? |
| 15:53.08 | brader | ok I really need help could someone please tell me how I can remove packages without removing dependencies |
| 15:53.10 | Phated | streuner_: Eh? |
| 15:53.17 | bob2 | brader: why? |
| 15:53.17 | gtigene | sudo lets my non-root user act as root but it doesn't ask for a password. How do I configure it to require a password (preferably the root password)? |
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| 15:53.20 | stew | brader: why wouldyou want to? |
| 15:53.27 | simonrvn | thanks RichiH, caphuso |
| 15:53.27 | brader | bob2 because I cannot get x to work |
| 15:53.32 | Phated | gtigene: su? :) |
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| 15:53.36 | jethro | kombi: yes |
| 15:53.38 | brader | so I need to purge x and reinstall it |
| 15:53.38 | bob2 | gtigene: it will never ask for the root password, that would defeat the point |
| 15:53.38 | rijakr | I've been tweaking Pebble Linux (Debian Woody based) from nycwireless.com |
| 15:53.47 | stew | brader: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 15:53.49 | WhiteRabbit | t-minus wtf knows... |
| 15:53.55 | bob2 | gtigene: remove NOPASSWD from /etc/sudoers to make it ask for a password |
| 15:54.02 | PerfDave | brader: apt-get --purge --reinstall install xserver-xfree86 |
| 15:54.18 | bob2 | PerfDave: that doesn't redo config files |
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| 15:54.29 | brader | PerfDAve tried it didn't work |
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| 15:54.42 | streuner_ | Phated: look what he said yesterday about making his own system... |
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| 15:54.49 | bob2 | brader: if you really think it will help: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xfree86 ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xfree86 |
| 15:55.06 | greycat | 10:55 greycat> !tell brader about confmiss |
| 15:55.11 | greycat | one hour ago precisely. |
| 15:55.13 | gtigene | bob2: My sudoers file does not have NOPASSWD in it. |
| 15:55.46 | bob2 | gtigene: sudo -k |
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| 15:56.15 | brader | bob2 I dunno what my problem Is I tried to install a usb mouse followed the instructions and didn;t backup the XF86Config-4 file and now I can't even get into the damned program |
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| 15:56.56 | bob2 | you shouldn't have touched the file at all |
| 15:57.02 | lestest | hi there I'm trying to configure a wireless card with ndiswrapper; i have the dis module loaded and the windows driver loaded, but still get no such device when I try to assign an address with iwconfig |
| 15:57.14 | jethro | brader: but now you did /msg dpkg confmiss would help, so it's worth a try |
| 15:57.15 | lestest | any clue? |
| 15:57.25 | emRick | I'm puzzled about how Linux handles USB ports. When I use my memory card reader, the card is mounted on /mnt/uba1 regardless of which port I use. When I use my USB PDA, I need to supply /dev/ttyUSB1 regardless of which port I use. What happens when I am using _two_ USB devices at the same time? Will /mnt/ubb1 or /dev/ttyUSB2 suddenly get used? (Any relevant URLs would be appreciated.) |
| 15:57.28 | greycat | or he could just fucking touch(1) it. |
| 15:57.38 | jethro | greycat: what about md5 then? |
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| 15:57.47 | greycat | he's already been told THAT one too. |
| 15:57.54 | greycat | 10:53 resiak> !xmd5 |
| 15:57.57 | bob2 | emRick: the first usb storage device gets ubda1 |
| 15:58.03 | jethro | point |
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| 15:58.07 | bob2 | emRick: the first usb serial device gets ttyUSB1 |
| 15:58.18 | bob2 | emRick: different namespaces |
| 15:58.21 | brader | I dunno what package deals with that file if I did I wouldn;t have a problem |
| 15:58.24 | gtigene | bob2: It seems I don't understand the purpose of sudo or else I am not explaining myself well. I would like to spend most of my time logged in as non-root but ocassionally run a command as root. But I want it to ask for a password. |
| 15:58.39 | brader | and I don't know enough to figure out what I need to do to replace that freaking file |
| 15:58.39 | bob2 | emRick: if you plug another pda in, you get ttuUSB2, yes |
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| 15:58.52 | emRick | bob2: ah, excellent. so I'm safe from collisions and can use both devices at once. |
| 15:58.55 | bob2 | brader: people have told you 3 methods to get it back |
| 15:58.58 | bob2 | emRick: yup |
| 15:59.05 | gtigene | bob2: so that if someone breaks into my non-root account they will not be able to take over. |
| 15:59.17 | bob2 | gtigene: run 'sudo -k', then 'sudo ls', does it ask for a password? |
| 15:59.30 | gtigene | bob2: just a sec |
| 15:59.50 | gtigene | bob2: it did not ask for a password |
| 15:59.58 | brader | I am trying one at a time since I have to switch from her back to my other console repeastedly and I don;t know how to scroll the console |
| 16:00.04 | bob2 | gtigene: then show us your /etc/sudoers in #flood |
| 16:00.11 | gtigene | ok |
| 16:00.15 | jharrisonwk | brader: shift+pageup |
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| 16:00.28 | stew | gtigene: you want a line in your sudoers like: gtigene ALL=PASSWD: ALL |
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| 16:00.59 | gtigene | stew: thank you |
| 16:01.03 | depesz | hi |
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| 16:01.12 | depesz | simple question - how do you turn off ipv6 in debian? |
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| 16:01.23 | bob2 | you don;t |
| 16:01.29 | depesz | bob2: but i need to. |
| 16:01.33 | bob2 | why? |
| 16:01.51 | depesz | because tomcat binds to ipv6 and has problems with closing connections over ipv6. |
| 16:01.58 | PerfDave | depesz: You can blacklist the modules in hotplug |
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| 16:02.22 | PerfDave | (assuming you're using a Debian kernel-image) |
| 16:02.30 | gtigene | bob2: Actually I don't know how to paste into #flood. Should I /join #flood? |
| 16:02.30 | depesz | PerfDave: yes, i do. |
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| 16:02.38 | bob2 | gtigene: yes |
| 16:02.39 | PerfDave | depesz: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 16:02.40 | depesz | PerfDave: how do you blacklist it? i'm not used to hotplug |
| 16:02.47 | greycat | depesz: /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 16:04.03 | simonrvn | yay, my rib injury is better now |
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| 16:04.42 | depesz | ok. i did what dpkg said. now for reboot time. |
| 16:04.58 | depesz | i'm kind of worried everytime i reboot a machine which is 1500 kilometers away from me |
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| 16:05.18 | simonrvn | i would too :) |
| 16:05.41 | simonrvn | caphuso: i can now ;). before it would hurt :| |
| 16:05.51 | caphuso | simonrvn: i know |
| 16:05.57 | PerfDave | depesz: You've got remote serial console access and remote powercycle, right? :) |
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| 16:06.45 | caphuso | simonrvn: i've broken one of my ribs a few years ago, and now it hurts for a few days every odd month |
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| 16:07.02 | brader_ | bob2 you rock |
| 16:07.14 | gtigene | bob2: OK its pasted there. |
| 16:07.28 | caphuso | i really shouldn't have continued working back then :-/ |
| 16:07.43 | brader_ | Even with purge command I still had to rm -rf X11 folder |
| 16:07.50 | brader_ | but it's working now |
| 16:08.12 | devazion | I'm really in a bad situation of install haha =) |
| 16:08.35 | bob2 | gtigene: what stew said then |
| 16:08.43 | bob2 | I was sure it defaulted to askforpassword, tho |
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| 16:09.13 | gtigene | bob2: So I should _add_ the line he said rather than edit the line that is already there, is that correct? |
| 16:09.16 | LordWolF | lee,cmugj,ethro |
| 16:09.26 | LordWolF | cool thanks something new happened |
| 16:09.30 | gtigene | or sher |
| 16:09.33 | gtigene | or she |
| 16:09.35 | simonrvn | caphuso: oh, ow :|. i've had bruised ribs before, so i recognised it (had gotten beat up by a trio of neo-nazis...), but this time it was while riding my bike. was doing slalom down a wet street, and hit a slippery patch; i scraped my elbow and the bike collided with my ribs (my arms which i'd put up didn't cover all of me =) |
| 16:09.39 | LordWolF | now i can play with that new stuff |
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| 16:09.56 | simonrvn | caphuso: :/ |
| 16:10.04 | bob2 | gtigene: change it so it looks like what he said |
| 16:10.07 | caphuso | simonrvn: ouch |
| 16:10.11 | bob2 | ie add the PASSWD directive |
| 16:10.11 | gtigene | bob2: ok |
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| 16:10.54 | sean_micken | hmm.. is debian.org down? |
| 16:11.35 | greycat | jethro: not every time, though... |
| 16:11.51 | jethro | greycat: how is that possible? |
| 16:11.59 | jethro | greycat: you mean it caches it? |
| 16:12.00 | greycat | jethro: keeps something in /var/run |
| 16:12.41 | jethro | greycat: yes it does. but it still asks the first time. maybe gtigene has remaining stuff in /var/run |
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| 16:14.53 | devazion | Hi, i got some errors on my floppy. There is 12 bad blocks... I wonder if the filesystem on the floppy can avoid those bad blocks. |
| 16:15.19 | depesz | PerfDave: no i dont have. |
| 16:15.26 | PerfDave | depesz: Sucks to be you ;) |
| 16:15.31 | depesz | ok - i did the blacklist stuff - still ipv6 is on. |
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| 16:15.56 | paulswm | jethro: not sure about Linux sudo, but you can set the one on Solaris to ask for a password and then not require a password for an interval until it times out |
| 16:16.05 | depesz | PerfDave: i have phone line to data center guys who can act as powerswitch. |
| 16:16.12 | greycat | paulswm: solaris *ships* with one now?? |
| 16:16.15 | jethro | paulswm: yes, that's the default on linux too |
| 16:16.23 | greycat | paulswm: are you sure it wasn't just installed locally by the sysadmin? |
| 16:16.30 | depesz | ok. another question - how to recreate initrd image? |
| 16:16.34 | gtigene | bob2: I have two user privilege specifications in the sudoers file, one for root and one for the other user. Which line should I change? I changed the line for gti but it still does not ask for a password. |
| 16:16.41 | paulswm | greycat, jethro sorry, was thinking of HP-UX |
| 16:16.45 | greycat | depesz: don't. install a Debian kernel imsge. |
| 16:16.52 | greycat | paulswm: surely HP-UX doesn't. |
| 16:16.52 | depesz | maybe this thing (ipv6) is called from initrd. |
| 16:17.05 | depesz | greycat: i have debian kernel image |
| 16:17.09 | depesz | newest one from sarge |
| 16:17.12 | depesz | as a matter of fact. |
| 16:17.13 | greycat | depesz: then why are you asking this? |
| 16:17.19 | paulswm | greycat: I've used sudo on our HP-UX servers, but I don't know it's origin |
| 16:17.22 | gahan | openssh says "System bootup in progress - please wait" is there anything i can about that? i wish my sshd allowed em to login before bootup things finish |
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| 16:17.28 | depesz | greycat: because i need to get rid of this ipv6. |
| 16:17.30 | devazion | Can i use ext2 on my boot floppies? |
| 16:17.33 | gahan | s/can/can do/ |
| 16:17.34 | greycat | gahan: remove the nologin file... |
| 16:17.37 | bob2 | gahan: rm /etc/nologin |
| 16:17.43 | gahan | but i dont have access |
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| 16:17.45 | gahan | to machine |
| 16:17.50 | gahan | i mean atm i have :) |
| 16:17.53 | greycat | gahan: get to the console. |
| 16:17.57 | depesz | greycat: so, how do i recreate initrd.img file? |
| 16:17.58 | bob2 | gahan: this is what serial port access is for ;) |
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| 16:18.01 | bob2 | gahan: the user one |
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| 16:18.03 | bob2 | bah |
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| 16:18.10 | greycat | depesz: WHY do you THINK you need to get rid of this feature? |
| 16:18.14 | bob2 | gtigene: the user one. I don't know why it wouldn't ask. |
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| 16:18.15 | gahan | impossible, machine is far away |
| 16:18.29 | greycat | depesz: and WHAT OTHER WAY could you envision to disable a feature other than fucking around inside a RAM disk image? |
| 16:18.34 | depesz | greycat: because it creates problems with TOMCAT. |
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| 16:18.38 | depesz | i already wrote it. |
| 16:18.39 | greycat | depesz: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 16:18.39 | gtigene | bob2: ok, guess I should look again at the man page for sudo |
| 16:18.39 | PHUNKy_BUDDhA | =D |
| 16:18.40 | gahan | which startup script creates nologin? /etc/init.d/rcS ?:( |
| 16:18.52 | greycat | gahan: grep -r nologin /etc/init.d |
| 16:18.56 | depesz | greycat: i just wrote 1 minute ago that i DID blacklisting. |
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| 16:19.02 | bob2 | gahan: /etc/init.d/rmnologin should have removed it |
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| 16:19.05 | greycat | !lose depesz |
| 16:19.06 | jethro | depesz: can't you just disable ipv6 in tomcat? |
| 16:19.06 | dpkg | depesz: You Lose. |
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| 16:19.20 | depesz | jethro: tomcat binds to 0.0.0.0 |
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| 16:19.22 | gahan | if [ "$DELAYLOGIN" = yes ] |
| 16:19.23 | gahan | cool |
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| 16:19.27 | gahan | now i can fix it |
| 16:19.27 | jethro | depesz: that's a setting |
| 16:19.30 | gahan | :)) |
| 16:19.30 | greycat | depesz: and the problem is...? |
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| 16:19.39 | jethro | depesz: you are allowed to change that, and 0.0.0.0 is not a v6 IP address |
| 16:19.39 | depesz | and since eth0 is both ipv4 and ipv6 - it binds to both |
| 16:20.01 | greycat | depesz: so...? |
| 16:20.02 | depesz | greycat: problem with tomcat? 150 partially closed tcp6 connections between tomcat and apache - but only on tomcat side. |
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| 16:20.13 | samuel | sup all |
| 16:20.18 | greycat | 12:20 Channel Users Name |
| 16:20.18 | greycat | 12:20 #tomcat 28 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat Latest stable versions of |
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| 16:20.22 | jethro | :D |
| 16:20.57 | samuel | anyone know what ruleset to use for a latin american keyboard? should be ES no? |
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| 16:21.01 | E-bola | the memtest86 package in debian does that install into bootloader? |
| 16:21.03 | depesz | greycat: thanks for pointing that out, but do i *have* to ave ipv6. despite the fact that i dont need it, and it causes proiblems with software i'm using? |
| 16:21.05 | E-bola | so u dont need a cd/floppy= |
| 16:21.07 | E-bola | ? |
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| 16:21.22 | greycat | depesz: we've already told you how to blacklist the driver module. |
| 16:21.33 | depesz | greycat: AND I ALREADY DID IT ! |
| 16:21.33 | greycat | and everything is modular in the debian kernels. |
| 16:21.33 | jethro | depesz: disabling ipv6 at the OS level would take you more time than binding v4 only |
| 16:21.38 | valdyn | E-bola: its started from a bootloader, it does add an entry for grub |
| 16:21.46 | greycat | jethro: that too. |
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| 16:21.58 | E-bola | valdyn: ok, so i can just install the package and i will have a new bootloader entry in grub? |
| 16:22.03 | E-bola | there arent any additional steps? |
| 16:22.06 | depesz | jethro: perhaps - yet i'm yet to see a way to manage this on tomcat. |
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| 16:22.16 | jethro | depesz: good luck |
| 16:22.18 | asg | E-bola: if there are any, the will be listed in /usr/share/doc/<pkg>/README* |
| 16:22.22 | valdyn | E-bola: iirc |
| 16:22.26 | depesz | and i saw linux os'es which work modularily, and didn't have ipv6. |
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| 16:22.38 | jethro | depesz: and? |
| 16:22.44 | moi_ | hey, i need a very basic image manipulation program (i just need to cut out some squares and paint a little arrow) |
| 16:22.51 | jethro | depesz: did you also see network services where you can't set what you bind to ? |
| 16:23.05 | moi_ | like mspaint for linux ;) any recommendations |
| 16:23.11 | valdyn | moi_: gimp |
| 16:23.13 | PerfDave | moi_: tuxpaint? |
| 16:23.13 | jethro | moi_: gimp |
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| 16:23.33 | jasoncohen | if i'm using debian testing should i have deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free ? |
| 16:23.34 | jethro | well gimp may be overkill for that |
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| 16:23.42 | depesz | jethro: yes. i saw. tomcat for example. |
| 16:23.48 | jethro | depesz: goooood!! |
| 16:24.01 | moi_ | valdyn, jethro: heh, i've 350 mhz here, no gimp then ;) |
| 16:24.09 | moi_ | PerfDave, i'll try that |
| 16:24.15 | depesz | jethro: anyway - i'm looking at tomcat docs right now, but my point is: if i would need to have os that thinks for me - i would get windows. |
| 16:24.25 | depesz | debian was supposed not to "get into my way". |
| 16:24.39 | depesz | while it does, and actually - it seems you can't stop him doing it. |
| 16:24.41 | paulswm | depesz: Yeah, we Linux users think for ourselves. |
| 16:24.43 | jethro | depesz: wtf are you talking about? if you're not able to disable ipv6 on debian, don't blame debian, blame yourself |
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| 16:24.56 | PHUNKy_BUDDhA | is anybody here knows how to install an instant client for oracle 10g in debian? |
| 16:25.02 | kenboo | what does 'sarge is frozen' mean? i see so many updates everyday |
| 16:25.05 | greycat | !pal PHUNKy_BUDDhA |
| 16:25.05 | Akselii | dfkf |
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| 16:25.10 | depesz | jethro: ok. i blame myself for not knowing how. but it appears to me that you dont know it too. |
| 16:25.16 | depesz | so - who knows? |
| 16:25.17 | cat | kenboo: frozen?? |
| 16:25.29 | asg | kenboo: no new packages except for RC bugfixes and packages authorized by the RM. |
| 16:25.32 | valdyn | depesz: ipv6 is just enabled by default and applications are compiled with ipv6 support, where possible, which is _good_ |
| 16:25.38 | jethro | depesz: you've been told how to blacklist like a dozen time |
| 16:25.44 | PerfDave | jethro: To be fair, depesz has tried the documented method for blacklisting modules according to dpkg, and hasn't made it work. So either the dpkg factoid is wrong or depesz hasn't implemented it properly. Either is possible. |
| 16:25.50 | kenboo | asg no version updated also? |
| 16:26.01 | greycat | PerfDave: he *claims* he followed it. |
| 16:26.11 | greycat | PerfDave: he has not yet demonstrated any proof of such actions. |
| 16:26.13 | asg | kenboo: not unless there is no easy way to backport a fix and all agree a new version won't break anything. |
| 16:26.14 | daft | is it possible to connect to a device on a other computer? |
| 16:26.19 | kenboo | i see |
| 16:26.26 | gahan | is there an irc channel where i could tell developers there's a package that should be in Debian?:) |
| 16:26.30 | kombi | daft: what do you mean by that.. |
| 16:26.30 | PerfDave | greycat: ISTR other people having similar problems with ipv6. Perhaps the instructions are unclear. |
| 16:26.34 | asg | kenboo: take a look at http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/index.html for all the work being done |
| 16:26.34 | PerfDave | greycat: /msg dpkg wnpp |
| 16:26.35 | greycat | gahan: no. use the mailing lists. |
| 16:26.42 | kenboo | thanks. |
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| 16:26.53 | jethro | PerfDave: and considering how many times a week blacklist is requested, I believe the factoid would have been fixed if it were wrong |
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| 16:27.06 | PerfDave | jethro: Maybe it's only not effective for ipv6? :) |
| 16:27.11 | jethro | PerfDave: :) |
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| 16:27.28 | depesz | jethro: just in case you missed my earlier 15 times saying it: I DID BLACKLISTING just as dpkg suggested. |
| 16:27.30 | paulswm | PerfDave: Funny :) |
| 16:27.30 | daft | kombi: that a /dev/tty is connected to a /dev/tty on a other computer |
| 16:27.32 | jethro | PerfDave: all in all, I still think it's way faster to handle that in tomcat |
| 16:27.32 | depesz | then rebooted. |
| 16:27.40 | valdyn | !blacklist |
| 16:27.41 | dpkg | Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present) |
| 16:27.45 | depesz | hmm .. perhaps i should've blacklist it then. |
| 16:27.50 | moi_ | eh tuxpaint is bit too kiddie though |
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| 16:28.10 | PerfDave | moi_: There's kolourpaint in KDE |
| 16:28.15 | asg | moi_: then just use the gimp and be done with it. |
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| 16:28.24 | depesz | jethro: any other suggestion? |
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| 16:28.48 | valdyn | depesz: look at /etc/discover.d/ |
| 16:28.59 | giupy | i ahve killed an app that uses soundcard, and now my souncard is still occupied, how can i make it usable without rebooting :) ? |
| 16:29.04 | moi_ | asg: with 350 mhz / 64 mb? nooooway |
| 16:29.04 | masoft | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:29.22 | jethro | depesz: yes read tomcat documentation. I ve found out what you're looking for in less than 2 minutes googling |
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| 16:29.25 | PerfDave | giupy: Use lsof to see what's using the soundcard. |
| 16:29.27 | valdyn | that factoid *might* be incomplete as im not sure if discover still uses /etc/discover.conf |
| 16:29.28 | moi_ | PerfDave, k thanks |
| 16:29.34 | depesz | jethro: address parameter for http connector. |
| 16:29.51 | jethro | depesz: are you going to tell me it's not working either? |
| 16:29.52 | depesz | good. idea: it doesn't block binding to ipv6 sockets. |
| 16:29.57 | caonex | how can one print multiple pages in one, using lp? |
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| 16:29.58 | greycat | valdyn: it's a sarge factoid. |
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| 16:30.02 | jmartin | anybody have a good resource to get openmosix running on deb? |
| 16:30.04 | greycat | valdyn: if he's using sid, all bets are off. |
| 16:30.13 | valdyn | !info discover1 sarge |
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| 16:30.15 | dpkg | discover1: (hardware identification system), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.7.7 (sarge), Packaged size: 91 kB, Installed size: 212 kB |
| 16:30.17 | valdyn | !info discover sarge |
| 16:30.19 | dpkg | discover: (hardware identification system), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.0.7-2.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 279 kB, Installed size: 700 kB |
| 16:30.23 | giupy | PerfDave, i didn't know that command :)) |
| 16:30.24 | valdyn | greycat: ^^^ |
| 16:30.28 | masoft | jmartin, I started it for 2 years ago in Debian |
| 16:30.35 | greycat | valdyn: did something *change* during the freeze? |
| 16:30.37 | coywolf | any http proxy tools like tsocks to socks? |
| 16:30.37 | depesz | jethro: tcp6 0 0 ::ffff:10.123.100.:8080 :::* LISTEN 2828/java |
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| 16:30.49 | depesz | funny part is - it binds *only* to tcp6. |
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| 16:30.52 | masoft | jmartin, what do you need to know ? |
| 16:30.55 | valdyn | greycat: nah |
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| 16:30.57 | PerfDave | Hmm, discover uses discover.conf-2.6 for 2.6 kernels, according to "man discover.conf" in sid. |
| 16:31.00 | E-bola | How do i clear all iptables rules and let all ports be open? |
| 16:31.07 | greycat | 12:19 depesz> jethro: tomcat binds to 0.0.0.0 |
| 16:31.08 | jethro | depesz: aight, /j #tomcat and have fun there |
| 16:31.11 | jethro | I m bored |
| 16:31.22 | asg | moi_: bah, that's zippy |
| 16:31.27 | PerfDave | depesz: Are you running a 2.6 kernel? |
| 16:31.28 | jmartin | masoft: Having kernel patch issues... Kernel-patch doesnt' match kernel-version... |
| 16:31.41 | paulswm | @say !singlishsmite jethro |
| 16:31.41 | ravenbird | !singlishsmite jethro |
| 16:31.42 | jethro | greycat: thanks for pointing out how clear and constant in the explanation he is |
| 16:31.42 | dpkg | jethro: You all fart and no shit only! |
| 16:31.46 | jmartin | latest kernel-patch level I can find is 2.4.19 |
| 16:31.59 | jmartin | earliest kernel version I can find is 2.4.22 |
| 16:32.03 | depesz | PerfDave: yes. |
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| 16:32.09 | coywolf | ehlp |
| 16:32.12 | depesz | jethro: i did join, and asked them |
| 16:32.13 | coywolf | are there any http proxy tools like tsocks to socks? |
| 16:32.20 | PerfDave | depesz: Try putting the "skip ipv6" line in /etc/discover.conf-2.6 and seeing if that fixes it. |
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| 16:32.29 | depesz | jethro: but the question is still relevant here: how do i switch off ipv6 ? |
| 16:32.29 | PerfDave | depesz: And if it does, tell me :) |
| 16:32.30 | jethro | depesz: /msg dpkg they don't know while you're at it |
| 16:32.39 | masoft | jmartin, you can't change your kernel ? |
| 16:32.42 | depesz | PerfDave: just a second - testing./ |
| 16:32.43 | jethro | depesz: what PerfDave said |
| 16:32.51 | masoft | jmartin, why you don't get one from kernel.org ? |
| 16:33.04 | PerfDave | jethro: Are you running Woody by any chance? |
| 16:33.06 | PerfDave | Argh |
| 16:33.06 | depesz | PerfDave: rebooting. |
| 16:33.09 | depesz | jethro: rebooting. |
| 16:33.12 | PerfDave | jmartin: Are you running Woody by any chance? |
| 16:33.18 | jethro | jethro: think so, but have to double check |
| 16:33.23 | jethro | PerfDave: ^^ |
| 16:33.24 | jmartin | nope... sarge at the moment... |
| 16:33.32 | jethro | the box at my prents might be a woody |
| 16:33.43 | jethro | nm |
| 16:33.51 | Eclipser | !nm |
| 16:33.51 | dpkg | well, nm is New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. And also nevermind, or a program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
| 16:34.06 | jethro | that one meant nevermind, sorry |
| 16:34.10 | Eclipser | :) |
| 16:34.13 | paulswm | Heh |
| 16:34.41 | jmartin | masoft: /me checking kernel.org now |
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| 16:34.57 | jmartin | masoft: I was hoping for an apt-get solution :-/ |
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| 16:35.41 | PerfDave | jmartin: Why not just install a more recent kernel-image package? |
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| 16:36.24 | giupy | wow i have done lsof /dev/dsp and i have seen the pid of app that was occuping my soundcard :)) |
| 16:36.28 | giupy | PerfDave, thanks so much |
| 16:36.52 | depesz | PerfDave: after reboot: |
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| 16:36.53 | depesz | => ifconfig eth0 | grep inet6\ addr |
| 16:36.53 | depesz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:37.17 | PerfDave | depesz: That's after blacklisting in /etc/discover.conf-2.6 ? |
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| 16:38.17 | Lee__ | I can't get the root filesystem to mount with a cpqarray volume, although the initrd detects the logical volumes it doesn't seem to want to mount them. |
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| 16:38.48 | Lee__ | it stops after "pivot_root: no such file or directory" |
| 16:38.59 | jmartin | PerfDave: The problem is... the Deb Openmosix kernel patches only go to 2.4.22... the earliest Deb Kernel package I can find is 2.4.24 |
| 16:39.39 | Lee__ | this is running sarge from a d-i netinst iso |
| 16:39.40 | masoft | jmartin, if you need kernel 2.4.19 get it from : http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/k/kernel-source-2.4.19/kernel-source-2.4.19_2.4.19-4.woody2_all.deb |
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| 16:40.03 | jmartin | masoft: SWEET... that's exactly what I needed |
| 16:40.11 | jmartin | much thanks |
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| 16:40.26 | masoft | jmartin, welcome ;) |
| 16:40.30 | depesz | PerfDave: yes. |
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| 16:40.44 | Whoppix27 | sup n00bs |
| 16:40.50 | Whoppix27 | owned |
| 16:40.55 | Whoppix27 | u whores |
| 16:41.03 | silenius | oO |
| 16:41.09 | gvandora | Is there a away to get scp to only copy files that have changed, like cp -u |
| 16:41.10 | gtigene | I do not understand the man page for the sudoers file. I can read the EBNF production rules but the man page still does not make sense to me and the default sudoers file that came with Debian does not seem to match the EBNF rules. Is there someplace I can read about the sudoers file? |
| 16:41.14 | Lee__ | what did he say, I just got so sleepy... |
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| 16:41.28 | PeTeRB | Whoppix27: Bye bye. |
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| 16:41.32 | depesz | PerfDave: i can provide you with greps if you want - if this could help. |
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| 16:41.41 | gtigene | Lee: what is man 5 sudoers trying to tell me? |
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| 16:41.52 | Lee__ | so any ideas on booting sarge from a cpqarray? |
| 16:41.55 | goron | How can I see what's using my network? My modem is going crazy, but I am not doing anything. |
| 16:42.02 | gvandora | netstat? |
| 16:42.09 | goron | gvandora: Tried it. |
| 16:42.15 | Lee__ | gtigene: it's trying to tell you about how to configure the sudoers file |
| 16:42.17 | PerfDave | depesz: Do "grep -R ipv6 /etc/discover*" |
| 16:42.21 | gvandora | goron: ethereal? |
| 16:42.31 | PerfDave | giupy: tcpdump? tethereal? iftop? |
| 16:42.32 | gvandora | goron: tcpdump? |
| 16:42.32 | greycat | gvandora: if you can generate such a list (e.g. with find) you could use ssh and GNU tar's --files-from option. |
| 16:42.37 | goron | tcp4 0 600 192.168.2.103.ssh ns1.1uphost.com.57781 ESTABLISHED |
| 16:42.37 | goron | tcp4 0 0 192.168.2.103.58698 restaurant.at.th.ircd ESTABLISHED |
| 16:42.37 | goron | tcp4 0 0 192.168.2.103.57726 thud.ethereal.co.57649 ESTABLISHED |
| 16:42.37 | goron | tcp4 0 0 192.168.2.103.57071 thud.ethereal.co.ftp ESTABLISHED |
| 16:42.37 | goron | udp4 0 0 localhost.679 localhost.1023 |
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| 16:43.02 | giupy | PerfDave, ? |
| 16:43.11 | goron | I am not sure about this: thud.ethereal.co.57649 |
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| 16:43.16 | PerfDave | giupy: Oops, sorry |
| 16:43.20 | PerfDave | goron: tcpdump? tethereal? iftop? |
| 16:43.25 | giupy | :) |
| 16:43.26 | PerfDave | Too many g-nicks around today ;) |
| 16:43.34 | gtigene | Lee: I cannot make sense out of it. Someone told me to put in the command "ALL=PASSWD: ALL" but I cannot relate that command to the rules in the man page |
| 16:43.34 | goron | And especially this one: ns1.1uphost.com.57781 |
| 16:43.39 | giupy | eheheh |
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| 16:43.46 | goron | He's connecting via ssh. |
| 16:43.48 | pureone | netstat -tunp |
| 16:43.48 | goron | 192.168.2.103.ssh |
| 16:43.48 | Akselii | i apt-get installed FCEUltra, how can i run it? there is no commands or something like that |
| 16:44.03 | masoft | jmartin, also don't forget check md5sum :P f42c8c0b27e644d024e33738a5c87863 |
| 16:44.16 | goron | I think he tries bruteforcing my password. |
| 16:44.17 | gvandora | greycat: thanks.. I think I should make a feature request for a -u.... |
| 16:44.22 | Spec | what is iftop? |
| 16:44.25 | PerfDave | Akselii: dpkg -L fceu | grep bin |
| 16:44.29 | gtigene | And the command does not seem to work. |
| 16:44.36 | Akselii | PerfDave: okay |
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| 16:44.43 | Lee__ | gtigene: I'm sorry you don't understand the documentation. Perhaps some googling may help. the above line would work if you wanted to give a user root. |
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| 16:44.48 | wwallace | anyone plays with xmame? |
| 16:44.54 | Akselii | PerfDave: it doesent give nothing |
| 16:45.19 | masoft | .DEB files contain a md5sum for themeselve ? (Slackware packages contain :P) |
| 16:45.21 | PerfDave | Akselii: Then look in /usr/share/doc/fceu |
| 16:45.39 | goron | Where are ssh login attempts logged? |
| 16:45.41 | Spec | slackware packages contain ":P"? o.O |
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| 16:45.49 | Lee__ | goron: auth.log |
| 16:45.53 | Spec | goron: less /var/log/auth.log |
| 16:45.57 | gtigene | Lee: I want to give a user the ability to sudo but I want it to prompt the user for a password. Perhaps, as you say, some Googling. |
| 16:46.01 | jim | Spec: I think he means pee |
| 16:46.02 | masoft | Spec, they contain md5sum |
| 16:46.12 | Lee__ | gtigene: prompting for a password is the default |
| 16:46.13 | jim | goron: auth.log |
| 16:46.16 | Spec | oh, they don't contain ":P"'s? :-/ |
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| 16:46.26 | Spec | they aren't very silly packages then |
| 16:46.34 | masoft | Spec, I don't think so ! |
| 16:46.37 | goron | May 31 18:46:25 justok sshd[23298]: Address 216.55.169.37 maps to ns1.1uphost.com, but this does not map back to the address - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT! |
| 16:46.42 | depesz | PerfDave: => grep -R ipv6 /etc/discover* |
| 16:46.42 | depesz | /etc/discover.conf:skip ipv6 |
| 16:46.42 | depesz | /etc/discover.conf-2.6:skip ipv6 |
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| 16:46.45 | Lee__ | this cpqarray thing is quite annoying. It still can't find / even though the device file clearly exists. |
| 16:46.49 | goron | How can I kick this guy out? |
| 16:46.50 | jim | just wasteful |
| 16:46.53 | Lee__ | it == sarge |
| 16:46.57 | PerfDave | goron: slay ? |
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| 16:47.00 | coywolf | http://kernelplanet.org/ is pr0n today. |
| 16:47.06 | goron | PerfDave: That's a command? |
| 16:47.07 | gtigene | Lee: but it doesn't prompt. |
| 16:47.15 | PerfDave | goron: Yes, kills a username. |
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| 16:47.25 | jim | goron: run a nmap on him at insane rate |
| 16:47.34 | PerfDave | goron: Or rather, it kills all processes belonging to a user. |
| 16:47.37 | Spec | goron: umm |
| 16:47.39 | cahoot | goron: wasn't it just an attempt? |
| 16:47.41 | Spec | goron: ps aux |grep -i ssh |
| 16:47.44 | goron | PerfDave: He's not in yet. |
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| 16:47.49 | masoft | Spec, .DEB contains md5sum in themeselve ? (to check is package correct) |
| 16:47.52 | jim | cahoot: multiple attempts |
| 16:47.54 | PerfDave | goron: Oh, just block him in iptables then. |
| 16:47.57 | goron | PerfDave: Probably takes him ages. |
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| 16:48.06 | Spec | masoft: they contain a list of md5sums of every single file in the package, actually |
| 16:48.06 | pureone | apt-get install chkrootkit ? |
| 16:48.11 | cahoot | jim: yeah but not successful |
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| 16:48.17 | goron | PerfDave: I don't have iptables. |
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| 16:48.24 | jim | he's probably trying to get in as linda |
| 16:48.32 | Spec | put the IP in /etc/hosts.deny |
| 16:48.36 | Spec | goron ^^ |
| 16:48.36 | PerfDave | goron: Why not? :) |
| 16:48.37 | goron | This is the first time this happened to me. |
| 16:48.42 | goron | Spec: Ok. |
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| 16:48.52 | PerfDave | goron: If you've got a Debian kernel-image, you should have it. |
| 16:48.59 | Spec | ALL : #.#.#.# : DENY |
| 16:49.32 | PerfDave | goron: Of course, one way to stop him would be to "invoke-rc.d ssh stop" for a while |
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| 16:50.01 | goron | PerfDave: Will do that. I need to go (sport and stuff). Thanks |
| 16:50.17 | cahoot | goron: if you have a finite list of allowed users for ssh - use AllowUser |
| 16:50.22 | depesz | PerfDave: any clue? |
| 16:50.33 | pureone | goron dont stick ssh on port 22 as well stick it on port 3055 or something |
| 16:50.49 | goron | May 31 18:50:17 justok sshd[451]: Received signal 15; terminating. |
| 16:50.57 | goron | Just to be sure :D |
| 16:51.07 | goron | Only this guy keeps annoying. |
| 16:51.16 | jvc | hi |
| 16:51.21 | goron | I need to annoy him back when I have the time. |
| 16:51.24 | jim | throw him some netcrashme |
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| 16:51.45 | jim | if you annoy him now, he might go away |
| 16:52.25 | PerfDave | depesz: I think I'm stumped. |
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| 16:52.55 | dave_ | Is there a way to force an apt-get install when there is an unmet dependency? |
| 16:53.03 | caphuso | dave_: no |
| 16:53.05 | depesz | PerfDave: that's my point too :( |
| 16:53.16 | PerfDave | depesz: /msg dpkg further help |
| 16:53.17 | caphuso | things don't work without their dependancies |
| 16:53.23 | PerfDave | dave_: Yes, but you really don't want to. |
| 16:53.31 | Lee__ | if there are any compaq smart array 431 users can you paste the grub boot line? the default as found by the sarge d-i can't find / |
| 16:53.58 | Spec | hey, goron |
| 16:54.03 | Spec | goron: netstat -anp |grep -i ssh |
| 16:54.17 | Spec | goron: and then you can kill the individual PIDs of the person connecting to you |
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| 16:54.49 | coywolf | are there any http proxy client tools like tsocks to socks? |
| 16:54.51 | coywolf | thanks |
| 16:55.13 | paulswm | If things worked without their dependencies, then they wouldn't be called dependencies :P |
| 16:55.42 | Ryushin | I compiled the source package of squid and I added ssl support. Where do I change the name of the package so it will be different than the main squid package? |
| 16:55.52 | jmartin | well... the 2.4.19 didn't work out as planned.. :-( |
| 16:56.01 | jmartin | the patch failed miserably... |
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| 16:56.13 | jmartin | so... changing tracks... |
| 16:56.22 | furrywolf | back |
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| 16:56.47 | PerfDave | Ryushin: Are you compiling the Debian source package, or the upstream source? |
| 16:56.47 | coywolf | can grub affect cdrom booting? |
| 16:57.01 | okilav | coywolf: don't think so |
| 16:57.02 | Ryushin | PerfDave: Debian source package. |
| 16:57.15 | PerfDave | Ryushin: Look in the debian/ directory? |
| 16:57.27 | paulswm | coywolf: No, but your BIOS settings can, and also some older readers have a hard time with CDRWs |
| 16:57.46 | coywolf | okilav, i messed my grub, then windows install cd can't boot |
| 16:57.49 | Ryushin | Yea, and I tried changing the control file, but it wouldn't compile at that point. So I think I'm looking in the wrong place. |
| 16:58.05 | Ryushin | I really just would like to add an extension like "-ssl". |
| 16:58.13 | scar` | I have installed X and enlightenment and it works perfectly if I access it locally. Now my machine is hooked up to a LAN and I would like to access the desktop through the LAN from a WindowsXP box. is this possible? If yes, what steps do I need to do? |
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| 16:58.38 | Akselii | scar`: googel RealVNC ;) |
| 16:58.42 | okilav | coywolf, cd booting is BIOS |
| 16:58.45 | coywolf | paulswm, the fact tells me grub affects cdrom booting |
| 16:58.46 | asg | scar`: use vnc or perhaps X running in cygwin |
| 16:58.57 | jmartin | masoft: Rather than try to engineer my own solution here (which has failed miserably so far) |
| 16:58.57 | depesz | PerfDave: unfortunatelly i dont have payable support and dont actually have time. |
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| 16:59.03 | Lee__ | scar`: or cygwin + X11 + ssh. that's my favorite |
| 16:59.10 | coywolf | paulswm, the fact tells me grub affects cerntain cdrom booting, windows boot cd |
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| 16:59.18 | jmartin | masoft: What's the best way to go about this? |
| 16:59.22 | scar` | Akselii, asg I will look for this real vnc stuff .... sounds interesting to me |
| 16:59.44 | paulswm | scar`: Yes. The way I do it is to use putty on the desktop and x11vnc on the server, there is a faq for x11vnc which tells you how to do it |
| 16:59.48 | mcquaid | hello, i'm trying to make my own debs for the first time, small stuff that compiles without issue, but the maintainers guide is a little daunting |
| 16:59.57 | danba | !don't work |
| 16:59.58 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 17:00.01 | paulswm | coywolf: my mistake then, sorry |
| 17:00.11 | PerfDave | depesz: Well, I guess you're SOL then. |
| 17:00.12 | mcquaid | for ex. i want to have everthing correct in my control file, how do I determine the final size of the actual program? |
| 17:00.21 | depesz | SOL? |
| 17:00.31 | coywolf | paulswm, odd |
| 17:00.35 | PerfDave | !sol |
| 17:00.35 | dpkg | somebody said sol was Shit Outta Luck. Sex On Legs. Earth's star, or the note that precedes La, or but really straight out of luck, or a shit beer |
| 17:00.39 | asg | mcquaid: that's generated automatically for you |
| 17:00.50 | depesz | PerfDave: sex on legs? ;-) |
| 17:00.57 | scar` | Akselii, asg, paulswm ... could it be that RealVNC is not free software? |
| 17:01.02 | paulswm | scar`: here's the x11vnc doc, page down for the faq |
| 17:01.13 | mcquaid | hmm, i already ran dh-make and it didn't list that |
| 17:01.19 | PerfDave | depesz: I can't think of any better suggestions than trying here later or e-mailing debian-user. |
| 17:01.24 | mcquaid | should i have ran ./configure & make before hand? |
| 17:01.27 | Ryushin | scar`: Use tightvnc. It comes with debian already. |
| 17:02.10 | pureone | http://www.tightvnc.com/ |
| 17:02.11 | pureone | free version |
| 17:02.11 | paulswm | scar`: So does x11vnc, incidentally. I can only tell you the way I do it, becuase it works well and I haven't tried out any of the other suggestions given here. |
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| 17:02.50 | depesz | PerfDave: ok. i will. thanks. |
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| 17:02.59 | paulswm | scar`: here's the x11vnc doc, page down for the faq: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ |
| 17:03.07 | Ryushin | Any idea on how to add an extension to a compiled debian source package? |
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| 17:03.17 | asg | mcquaid: if you can't grok the nm guide, then perhaps getting a simple deb source package and looking at it will be more useful. |
| 17:03.21 | dave_ | my disk is full on my server but I can't get anything removed because of unmet dependencies, anything I can do? |
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| 17:03.40 | mcquaid | ok thats what i'm going to do now |
| 17:03.42 | asg | Ryushin: futz with the source package, /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 17:03.47 | JeffH_ | Is there a migration path from debian 3.0 to 3.1 without having to completely reinstall? |
| 17:03.53 | PerfDave | JeffH_: Yes |
| 17:03.56 | mcquaid | but i know it's a dumb question, should i have run ./configure and make then dh_make? |
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| 17:04.10 | asg | mcquaid: no, you configure debian/rules to run your ./configure |
| 17:04.11 | PerfDave | JeffH_: Read the Sarge release notes |
| 17:04.11 | mcquaid | i was under the impression that i don't run ./configure and make when making a deb |
| 17:04.19 | greycat | JeffH_: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 17:04.20 | JeffH_ | PerlDave: thanks. |
| 17:04.23 | mcquaid | yes that was my understanding thx |
| 17:04.30 | mcquaid | i wonder why it didn't file in the file size then |
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| 17:05.03 | asg | mcquaid: does 'dpkg -f your.new.deb' list the size? |
| 17:05.24 | rue_mohr | who do I /msg for filesearch queries |
| 17:05.26 | JeffH_ | thanks.. maybe I'll end up doing a fresh install anyway and take the chance to migrate away from qmail. |
| 17:05.33 | asg | rue_mohr: /msg dpkg search |
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| 17:05.44 | mcquaid | i haven't made the deb yet, just ran dh_make so far |
| 17:05.57 | asg | mcquaid: size will not be calculated until the deb is assembled. |
| 17:06.02 | PerfDave | dave_: "apt-get clean" should give you some more disk space. |
| 17:06.04 | mcquaid | ah doh |
| 17:06.08 | JeffH_ | is exim easy to setup and get going? |
| 17:06.09 | gtigene | How can I find out if there is a known bug in my version of sudo |
| 17:06.12 | asg | JeffH_: yes |
| 17:06.12 | PerfDave | JeffH_: Yes |
| 17:06.17 | PerfDave | gtigene: Check the BTS |
| 17:06.20 | asg | gtigene: /msg dpkg bts |
| 17:06.21 | mcquaid | i thought i had to make sure everything was settled in the control file before making the deb |
| 17:06.36 | asg | mcquaid: certain things are required, certain things are auto-generated or optional. |
| 17:06.38 | mcquaid | like size, description,depends etc |
| 17:06.41 | JeffH_ | Is there a way to tell exim to route certain e-mails through my provider's smtp server? |
| 17:06.46 | mcquaid | ok |
| 17:06.51 | PerfDave | JeffH_: Yes |
| 17:06.52 | asg | JeffH_: yes, with a smarthost router |
| 17:06.58 | JeffH_ | cool. |
| 17:07.00 | asg | JeffH_: are you running exim4? |
| 17:07.04 | PerfDave | JeffH_: It's one of the default options when you install exim. |
| 17:07.23 | cahoot | gtigene: you do use visudo to edit? |
| 17:07.27 | JeffH_ | asg: right now I'm running qmail. considering the change to exim. |
| 17:07.50 | asg | JeffH_: you will be prompted during the configuration phase after installation. |
| 17:08.15 | JeffH_ | PerlDave: I don't want to route everything through my provider's smpt server.. just certain domains that won't accept e-mail from a server running on a dynamic ip. |
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| 17:08.41 | asg | JeffH_: that will require a little hacking but should be easily accomplished. |
| 17:08.47 | PerfDave | JeffH_: In that case you'll need to manually tweak the config, but it shouldn't be hard. |
| 17:08.56 | xtream | i'm trouble with crontab, could someone help me? |
| 17:08.58 | PerfDave | JeffH_: Why not just route everything through your ISP's server? |
| 17:09.00 | caphuso | it isn't. it's matter of configuring a manualroute router |
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| 17:09.21 | asg | caphuso: yes, keyed of a list of domains in some file I expect. |
| 17:09.24 | asg | s/of/off/ |
| 17:09.28 | caphuso | asg: yeah, that's the easiest way |
| 17:09.30 | scar` | Ryushin, I can't find any packages named tightvnc ... what's the package name? |
| 17:09.36 | JeffH_ | perlDave: might just do that. qmail made routing specific domains through the providers smpt server EASY.. doesn't sound like exim does. |
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| 17:09.43 | xtream | i wrote the tasks using crontab -e, my daemon (cron) is running, but nothing happens... |
| 17:09.47 | PerfDave | !perldave $1 is <reply> Damnit $1, it's PerfDave! Not PerlDave! |
| 17:09.47 | edwindi386 | hey |
| 17:09.48 | dpkg | FFS, $1 is <reply> Damnit $1, it's PerfDave! Not PerlDave!, it's "PerfDave", not "PerlDave". |
| 17:09.54 | Ryushin | scar`: xtightvnc |
| 17:09.58 | edwindi386 | what lib do i need to compile the kernel? |
| 17:10.02 | Akselii | is Tetris2 for SNES or for NES? |
| 17:10.04 | PerfDave | !perldave JeffH_ |
| 17:10.06 | dpkg | FFS, JeffH_, it's "PerfDave", not "PerlDave". |
| 17:10.10 | asg | JeffH_: it's easy with exim, just different due to the different nature of the 2 architectures. |
| 17:10.18 | JeffH_ | oops.. my bad. |
| 17:10.18 | edwindi386 | edwind:/usr/src/linux# make xconfig |
| 17:10.18 | edwindi386 | * |
| 17:10.18 | edwindi386 | * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the |
| 17:10.19 | edwindi386 | * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR |
| 17:10.19 | edwindi386 | * environment variable is set to the correct location. |
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| 17:10.22 | Ryushin | scar`: apt-cache search tightvnc |
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| 17:10.34 | edwindi386 | sorry |
| 17:10.40 | PerfDave | JeffH_: It just seems unneccessary hassle no matter which MTA you're using. |
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| 17:10.41 | edwindi386 | i need to compile my kernel in debian |
| 17:10.42 | asg | !install kde stuff |
| 17:10.47 | asg | bah |
| 17:11.05 | asg | !compile kde stuff |
| 17:11.05 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.net/?KdeDebBuild |
| 17:11.05 | asg | edwindi386: ^^^^ |
| 17:11.05 | PerfDave | !xconfig |
| 17:11.05 | dpkg | it has been said that xconfig is for kernels in the 2.4 series and earlier, apt-get install tk8.3, or for 2.6 and newer kernels, apt-get install libqt-dev (woody) or libqt3-dev (sarge or sid), or for GNOME-heads, see gconfig |
| 17:11.20 | caphuso | hrm, the smarthost router with the "domains = ! +local_domains" replaced should do the trick |
| 17:11.33 | beardy | edwindi386: If you don't want to install those things needed for xconfig, use 'make menuconfig' instead. |
| 17:11.35 | scar` | Ryushin, hmm the only things I find is vncserver and xvncviewer |
| 17:11.40 | asg | caphuso: yep |
| 17:11.44 | edwindi386 | i cant use menuconfig |
| 17:11.52 | Ryushin | scar`: That's all you need. |
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| 17:11.58 | asg | edwindi386: why not? |
| 17:12.19 | Ryushin | scar`: you want to access enlightenment from your windows box right? |
| 17:12.21 | scar` | Ryushin, is vncserver == tightvnc? |
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| 17:12.25 | edwindi386 | >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries. |
| 17:12.25 | edwindi386 | >> |
| 17:12.25 | edwindi386 | >> You must install ncurses-devel in order |
| 17:12.25 | edwindi386 | >> to use 'make menuconfig' |
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| 17:12.25 | xtream | asg: probably ncurses lib missing |
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| 17:12.37 | asg | edwindi386: install libncurses5-dev |
| 17:12.37 | scar` | Ryushin, right |
| 17:12.48 | pmcdonnell | How can I add a service to be started at boot? |
| 17:12.52 | JeffH_ | I'm not sure routing only specific domains through my providers smtp really gains anything over routing everything through there.. |
| 17:12.52 | Ryushin | scar`: You need tightvncserver |
| 17:13.00 | beardy | edwindi386: libncurses is much smaller that all those things needed for xconfig. |
| 17:13.16 | edwindi386 | hmm oks |
| 17:13.21 | edwindi386 | im installing |
| 17:13.48 | edwindi386 | yeah thanks |
| 17:13.59 | JeffH_ | are there any sarge iso images out yet? |
| 17:14.13 | xtream | pmcdonnell: put the service in the /etc/rcS.d |
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| 17:14.25 | Ryushin | scar`: Do you want to access the console X session, or spawn a new X session? VNC is it's own X server, and it will launch a new WM inside of it. Very nice as you will not have to leave an X console running on your linux box. |
| 17:14.34 | pmcdonnell | xtream, yeah, but isn't there a utiltiy that handles that for you? |
| 17:14.40 | xtream | pmcdonnell: you could use rcconf to help you with enabling disabling this services |
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| 17:15.30 | scar` | Ryushin, well I wanted to access the X desktop as it is right now... so included with enlightenment etc etc ... TightVNC doesn't support that, if I did not understand anything wrong |
| 17:15.36 | stew | !d-i JeffH_ |
| 17:15.36 | dpkg | JeffH_, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 17:15.39 | xtream | coywolf: hmm, can be lynx ?! |
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| 17:16.11 | JeffH_ | thanks stew |
| 17:16.35 | pmcdonnell | I'm trying to mount a directory over NFS, but I get this error: |
| 17:16.39 | pmcdonnell | node1:~# mount -t nfs 10.0.0.1:/cluster /cluster |
| 17:16.39 | pmcdonnell | mount: RPC: Program not registered |
| 17:16.40 | S4nD3r_ | I came back !!! |
| 17:16.52 | pmcdonnell | I can't figure out what the problem is... |
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| 17:16.59 | stew | pmcdonnell: is portmap started on both ends? |
| 17:17.00 | Ryushin | scar`: apt-cache show rfb |
| 17:17.23 | JeffH_ | I should do some research on setting up a backup process to backup my winxp machine to windows. |
| 17:17.27 | JeffH_ | err to Linux |
| 17:17.27 | S4nD3r_ | Someone can helps me to install and setup cups? |
| 17:17.43 | pmcdonnell | stew, nope - fixed that |
| 17:18.22 | stew | S4nD3r_: /msg dpkg install cups |
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| 17:19.01 | valdyn | !tell S4nD3r_ about cups setup |
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| 17:20.51 | GSecurity | hi there. any french guy that could help me ? |
| 17:20.58 | jim | !fr |
| 17:20.58 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 17:21.47 | GSecurity | thanks ;) |
| 17:21.54 | jim | welcome. |
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| 17:22.05 | GSecurity | ;) |
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| 17:27.26 | Lee__ | no idea |
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| 17:27.47 | jim | I mean, I know what it was... but who's playin around with the servers :P |
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| 17:27.47 | Lee__ | a node went offline? |
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| 17:31.01 | Xinux | holy crap |
| 17:31.01 | jim | wellwell |
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| 17:31.04 | jim | we're all back together now |
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| 17:31.04 | Xinux | there you guys go lol |
| 17:31.04 | Lee__ | they're back |
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| 17:32.23 | jetscreamer | or not |
| 17:32.23 | Xinux | well f**k |
| 17:32.23 | jim | or so |
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| 17:32.23 | GSecurity | lol |
| 17:32.23 | jim | or not |
| 17:32.24 | Xinux | this is pretty annoying. |
| 17:32.24 | jetscreamer | :) |
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| 17:32.24 | GSecurity | ^^ |
| 17:32.24 | jetscreamer | hide the join/part msg's |
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| 17:32.24 | jim | lilo: tell the kid to stop playin wif da servers! |
| 17:32.24 | GSecurity | ^^ |
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| 17:32.26 | E-bola | i get this sendto in send_ip_packet: sendto(3, packet, 40, 0, 194.47.241.100, 16) => Operation not permitted |
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| 17:32.26 | E-bola | when doing a standard namp scan, while i am root |
| 17:32.26 | E-bola | what does it mean? |
| 17:32.26 | LoRez | E-bola: check iptables |
| 17:32.27 | jim | E-bola: would be iptables preventing it |
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| 17:32.30 | E-bola | isnt the memtest86 package supposed to add an entry to grub bootloader? |
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| 17:32.40 | jor | E-bola: not, I think the update-grub script does that. Don't know if the memtest install script calls that |
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| 17:33.08 | solemnwarning | GIANT NETSPLIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O |
| 17:33.48 | E-bola | jor: ahh seems memtest makes a bool in menu.lst to turn it on and off |
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| 17:34.38 | jim | solemnwarning: your solemnwarning comes too late :P |
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| 17:34.58 | GSecurity | so seems that no french guy are ready to help :p so i'll ask here. I have some problems to install ndiswrapper and other thinks to install a 3com wireless USB card. someone can help ? ;) |
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| 17:35.43 | greycat | hey, why didn't you pick some *evil* hardware? |
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| 17:36.25 | GSecurity | this is what i have to use. ;( |
| 17:36.26 | jim | is there a place that indexes hardware by evilness quotient? |
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| 17:36.34 | jetscreamer | nope, no splits |
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| 17:36.45 | S4nD3r_ | cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/etc/cups/cupsd.conf' - exiting! This is my problem...How to create this file automatically ? |
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| 17:37.04 | Lee__ | jim: http://leenooks.com/1 |
| 17:37.06 | youpi | some servers got down |
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| 17:37.16 | valdyn | !find cupsd.conf |
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| 17:37.22 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'cupsd.conf' (3): (/etc/cups/cupsd.conf) in net/cupsys ;; (/usr/share/apps/kdeprint/cupsd.conf.template) in libs/kdelibs-data ;; (/etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf, /usr/share/doc/apcupsd/examples/{master.apcupsd.conf.gz|slave.apcupsd.conf}) in admin/apcupsd. |
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| 17:37.28 | jetscreamer | http://linuxhardware.org/ ? |
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| 17:37.50 | valdyn | S4nD3r_: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 17:38.07 | elirips | hello. is there a way to automatically mount usb-storage-devices, like digital-cams and memory-sticks? |
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| 17:38.23 | Gathond | elirips: yes, i believe there is |
| 17:38.24 | masoft | is there any port of debian for PocketPCs ? |
| 17:38.24 | asg | elirips: autofs |
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| 17:38.31 | asg | masoft: handhelds.org |
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| 17:38.47 | masoft | asg, didn't see anything for debian, there |
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| 17:39.10 | asg | masoft: well, if you can get linux on one, you can likely get debian on one in some fashion or another. |
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| 17:39.19 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status/ |
| 17:39.44 | sandzak | Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library |
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| 17:39.46 | masoft | asg, I ask for debian port ! having apt in pocketpc ... |
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| 17:40.01 | sandzak | any help? |
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| 17:40.03 | jetscreamer | -_- |
| 17:40.10 | jetscreamer | and he answered |
| 17:40.13 | valdyn | masoft: debian does not get ported to sizes / form factors. |
| 17:40.17 | elirips | asg: thanks, i'll have a look at it. |
| 17:40.44 | jetscreamer | not a custom built image for a mini |
| 17:40.46 | sandzak | how to fix this: "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library" |
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| 17:41.29 | youpi | sandzak: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 17:41.35 | valdyn | sandzak: what did you do to ( temporarily ) break your locales? |
| 17:41.37 | masoft | sandzak, may apt-get install locales help you |
| 17:41.50 | GSecurity | what do I need to be sure to do make and make install, I meen what packet is supposed to be installed, cause I installed some lib that were recommended but i still get errors with .h file in making ndiswrapper.... :( |
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| 17:42.25 | valdyn | GSecurity: running make and make install is already *off* the debian way to do this. |
| 17:42.26 | sandzak | after installing latest samba |
| 17:42.32 | sandzak | this error showup |
| 17:42.45 | jim | GSecurity: what lib do they want you to install |
| 17:43.12 | jim | valdyn: that's not true at all |
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| 17:43.18 | GSecurity | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.26 | GSecurity | jim: libiw and libdb1 |
| 17:43.34 | GSecurity | but still get errors |
| 17:43.37 | RainbowW | is there a suggested howto/solution on setting up a poptop server on sid/permitting incoming pptp connections? |
| 17:43.39 | jim | try getting libiw-dev |
| 17:43.44 | PeTeRB | GSecurity: How about -dev ones? |
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| 17:44.08 | GSecurity | did not find them on debian.org... (will search again ^^) |
| 17:44.09 | masoft | GSecurity, if you did ./configure and there were not any problem, so make and make install must work correctly |
| 17:44.14 | sandzak | masoft: The following packages have unmet dependencies: locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20 |
| 17:44.22 | valdyn | GSecurity: to build ndiswrapper you apt-get module-assistant and m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
| 17:44.34 | valdyn | GSecurity: to build ndiswrapper you apt-get install module-assistant and m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
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| 17:44.41 | GSecurity | valdyn: thanks i'll try |
| 17:45.02 | Ryushin | RainbowW: Debian already comes with all the tools to become a PPTP server. Do a apt-cache search pptp to find the packages. |
| 17:45.09 | GSecurity | but, is are all the packets on the first debian cd (the only thing I have ^^) |
| 17:45.12 | GSecurity | ? |
| 17:45.37 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: Ping. |
| 17:46.06 | jim | GSecurity: if you have your network configured then packages can come over that |
| 17:46.06 | valdyn | GSecurity: i dont know, m-a ( shortcut to module-assistant ) will let you know.. |
| 17:46.07 | [Roosta] | so where does one put his smbfs mounts to be mounted on startup |
| 17:46.07 | RainbowW | Ryushin: okay, as soon as my current dist-upgrade is done, i will. thanks. ;-) |
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| 17:46.07 | masoft | sandzak, oops, it seems you haven't glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20 |
| 17:46.10 | jim | GSecurity |
| 17:46.14 | GSecurity | jim: i dont have the network ready on debian ^^ |
| 17:46.31 | simonrvn | conversion ubuntu->debian in progress |
| 17:46.33 | GSecurity | that's the prob :P |
| 17:46.34 | sandzak | masof: I know that :) how to fix this |
| 17:46.36 | masoft | sandzak, try this command : apt-cache search glibc- |grep glibc |
| 17:46.44 | jim | got an ethernet cable and an ethernet card? |
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| 17:46.58 | RainbowW | i wonder why my connections to freenode time out on my laptop (school connection) but not from home (via ssh). some connections to 6667 work so it's not firewall ... blah. |
| 17:47.01 | simonrvn | 768 packages to upgrade/change/whatever |
| 17:47.02 | GSecurity | jim: no ;( only a wireless USB 3com card that the prob :P |
| 17:47.17 | masoft | sandzak, find what is the name of glibc is available in yours CDs |
| 17:47.24 | Ryushin | RainbowW: You'll need to patch your kernel as well. I think the patch that comes with debian is fairly old. You might want to try this one instead: http://www.polbox.com/h/hs001/ |
| 17:47.32 | pmcdonnell | I have a client which gets its host info from LDAP. If I do getent hosts, I can see the hosts and IPs in the list. But if I try to pass it to RSH, I get an error. It works fine with the IP. here is the error I get: |
| 17:47.43 | pmcdonnell | rcmd: socket: Address family not supported by protocol |
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| 17:48.32 | RainbowW | Ryushin: even later 2.6.x kernels? |
| 17:48.50 | masoft | sandzak, did you find something like glibc-2.3.... ? |
| 17:48.50 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: means it can't find the port num in /etc/services or wherever it's getting fetched from |
| 17:48.56 | Ryushin | I'm still can't figure out how to change the debian package name when I compile it's source package. I thought this would be easy, but it's not. |
| 17:49.14 | sandzak | masoft: searching |
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| 17:49.16 | GSecurity | jim: and i cannot try now, cause debian is on the same pc as windows. have to reboot to try so i ask the most thing to no reboot all 5 minutes ^^ |
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| 17:49.33 | jim | Ryushin: why are you changing the package name |
| 17:50.01 | sandzak | ./cd3/pool/main/g/glibc |
| 17:50.01 | sandzak | ./cd3/pool/main/g/glibc/glibc-doc_2.3.2.ds1-21_all.deb |
| 17:50.01 | sandzak | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.03 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, what port number? |
| 17:50.29 | sandzak | masoft: and this glibc-doc_2.3.2.ds1-18_all.deb |
| 17:50.31 | jim | GSecurity: can you borrow another computer? that's difficult to support |
| 17:50.34 | ralf | i lost the url of the page containing sarge's RC bugs |
| 17:50.37 | valdyn | GSecurity: apt-get install module-assistant ndiswrapper-source will let you know which packages you need and in the process of installing them, which you miss, download the missing ones, burn them on a cd, dpkg -i <package> to install those, get packages on http://packages.debian.org |
| 17:50.42 | ralf | the list, not the number |
| 17:50.53 | GSecurity | actually i can't. |
| 17:50.55 | PeTeRB | GSecurity: You could download the .debs you need and then reboot and install them |
| 17:51.20 | ralf | ~apt-zip |
| 17:51.22 | apt | well, apt-zip is Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media, or just apt-get install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip |
| 17:51.22 | GSecurity | valdyn: thank you ;) i'll try it |
| 17:52.36 | PeTeRB | ralf: He's on Windows :| |
| 17:52.37 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: or, it's trying ipv6. but quite often the former |
| 17:52.37 | ralf | oh |
| 17:52.37 | GSecurity | so gentleman I reboot now and try those things. coming back again in some minutes ^^ |
| 17:52.37 | ralf | poor.. |
| 17:52.49 | GSecurity | thank you for the help ;) see you very soon I think :p ^^ |
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| 17:53.58 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, Buts it working fine if I use the ip address instead of the host name |
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| 17:54.00 | Fleck | auch :) |
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| 17:54.30 | simonrvn | htf should i know? don't know what service it's looking for... up to you to figure that out |
| 17:54.30 | simonrvn | it's your box, deal with it |
| 17:54.30 | masoft | sandzak, it's not usable ! you have Sarge ? |
| 17:54.31 | streuner_ | ralf: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?ignore=sid&ignpatch=on&new=3 |
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| 17:54.31 | streuner_ | ralf: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?ignore=sid&ignpatch=on&new=3 |
| 17:54.33 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, could it be a problem with the entry in the LDAP server? |
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| 17:55.01 | simonrvn | sure could |
| 17:55.03 | sandzak | masoft: yes I have sarge |
| 17:55.06 | rue_mohr | can anyone help me find these files??? |
| 17:55.06 | rue_mohr | http://rafb.net/paste/results/BJaknR42.html |
| 17:55.09 | rue_mohr | oops |
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| 17:55.20 | simonrvn | FYI, my rsh is symlinked to ssh ;) |
| 17:55.22 | rue_mohr | these files: libjvm libXp libXt libXtst libjava |
| 17:55.22 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, can I show you the output from an ldapsearch |
| 17:55.24 | pmcdonnell | ? |
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| 17:55.31 | simonrvn | *hinthint* |
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| 17:55.45 | Knight_Lord | rue_mohr i would say those are not files but names of packages |
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| 17:55.51 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, mine isn't |
| 17:55.54 | simonrvn | @wb |
| 17:55.55 | ravenbird | thanks, simonrvn. It's good to be back. |
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| 17:56.10 | Knight_Lord | rue_mohr have you give apt-cache search a try |
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| 17:56.17 | rue_mohr | Knight_Lord, I did, no results |
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| 17:56.24 | masoft | sandzak, I have no Idea ! if you have highspeed internet, may the upgrade be the best choice |
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| 17:56.28 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, I changed it - as I said, all works well with IP's, it the ldap hostname resolution that seems to be where the problem is |
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| 17:56.47 | valdyn | !tell rue_mohr about search |
| 17:56.47 | rue_mohr | Knight_Lord, on some of them... |
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| 17:57.01 | rue_mohr | I did , dpkg didn't return anything |
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| 17:57.06 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: try avoiding setting the servers to have ldap host lookup ;). clients it's ok |
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| 17:57.55 | valdyn | rue_mohr: why are you capitalising the Xs ? |
| 17:57.56 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, no, the server don't use this system. Its for a beowulf cluster, so there's lots of nodes that have to know about eachother, and LDAP seemed the best way to do that |
| 17:58.11 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: if you must, set the host setting in pam_ldap.conf and libnss-ldap.conf to some IP |
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| 17:58.29 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: potentially. but you need to be careful |
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| 17:59.44 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, The client can connect to the LDAP server correctly, it's just having issues connecting to hosts whose hostnames it resolves through the server. |
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| 17:59.57 | sandzak | masoft: I don't have highspeed internet |
| 17:59.59 | Wuffi600 | hi |
| 18:00.08 | Thumper_ | Does anyone here build their own initrd kernel? |
| 18:00.21 | Lee__ | what's the sftp command to get a whole directory recursively? |
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| 18:00.24 | beardy | Thumper_: Please ask your question. |
| 18:00.26 | valdyn | !tell Thumper_ about polls |
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| 18:00.29 | masoft | sandzak, where do you live ? |
| 18:00.36 | dbernar1_ | in sandzak... |
| 18:00.50 | simonrvn | yeh. i use files dns ldap for hosts: in nsswitch.conf. (not exactly that, but with some tweaking it works) |
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| 18:01.02 | Wuffi600 | i have read on www.debianplanet.org that sarge will go stable on 30th May. Is it true? |
| 18:01.12 | youpi | topic |
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| 18:01.22 | PeTeRB | !topicsmite Wuffi600 |
| 18:01.23 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Wuffi600. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 18:01.25 | youpi | 30th may was yesterday |
| 18:01.27 | Thumper_ | The debian (sarge) install disks do some magic discovery process to find out what modules to load from the initrd image - I have systems with |
| 18:01.38 | simonrvn | Wuffi600: 6th june |
| 18:01.50 | sandzak | masoft: in Serbia |
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| 18:01.54 | Thumper_ | either ide/scsi disks and I'd like to load the appropriate module for booting - is there a way to do that? |
| 18:01.55 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, http://pastebin.com/292778 <-- there's the error log output, and the an entry for a host - does it look right? |
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| 18:02.02 | Thumper_ | without separate initrd images for each system |
| 18:02.03 | Wuffi600 | simonrvn: thanx for that hint. |
| 18:02.14 | sandzak | masoft: I have 80 kbps wireless internet |
| 18:02.23 | dbernar1_ | sandzak, so not in sandzak, I guess originally from there, hey? |
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| 18:02.34 | masoft | sandzak, is it far from UAE ? if not very far I can send CDs for you |
| 18:02.42 | sandzak | dbernar1_: sandzak is in serbia |
| 18:03.02 | dbernar1_ | beg your pardon?? wasnt it in Bosnia the last time I saww a map? |
| 18:03.06 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: you should index cn eq : bdb_equality_candidates: (cn) index_param failed (18) |
| 18:03.13 | dbernar1_ | or are you one of those nationalists? |
| 18:03.22 | sandzak | masoft: thanks, but I have CDs |
| 18:03.23 | dbernar1_ | or is my geography off? |
| 18:03.28 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: also ipHostNumber |
| 18:03.29 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, ? |
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| 18:03.32 | Lee__ | Thumper_: do you know what module you need for your disks? |
| 18:03.40 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: man slapindex |
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| 18:03.56 | masoft | sandzak, It seems your CDs are not official. |
| 18:03.56 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: looks ok |
| 18:03.59 | valdyn | Thumper_: why not simply use a debian kernel-image ? |
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| 18:04.20 | befree | hi all |
| 18:04.33 | befree | any debian-ppc hackers here ? |
| 18:04.37 | greycat | !ppc |
| 18:04.37 | dpkg | from memory, ppc is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc |
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| 18:05.00 | sandzak | masoft: problem is that I have one complete (two DVDs) and new sarge on 3 CDs, rest i downloading |
| 18:05.03 | masoft | sandzak, there is another way. Install without Dep. ! |
| 18:05.05 | oklinux | has any one use xpde ? |
| 18:05.08 | Lee__ | too bad ppc + jack + usb audio don't mix well |
| 18:05.13 | jim | anything is superior to intel |
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| 18:05.24 | sandzak | masoft: and I did apt-get upgrade from new CDs |
| 18:05.25 | masoft | oklinux, why want it ? |
| 18:05.38 | oklinux | I like to experiment with it |
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| 18:05.46 | FarrisG | I've got a local debian mirror I created using apt-mirror. apt-get update works fine, but when I go to install some packages, it appears to be indexing the wrong name or version. |
| 18:05.57 | jim | that's why it's required arch in compiler writing courses |
| 18:06.06 | masoft | oklinux, it's a kylix powered desktop (really not a desktop :P ) |
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| 18:06.29 | mhall | Can anybody tell me the name of a visual screen editor with a good interface (like emacs or nano) that can be built with just regular curses and not ncurses? |
| 18:06.36 | jim | what's kylix |
| 18:06.37 | FarrisG | It's looking for pool/main/s/shadow/passwd_4.0.3-31sarge3_i386.deb and getting a 404, but passwd_4.0.3-31sarge1_i386.deb is what's available. |
| 18:06.39 | oklinux | kylix can you explain it more clearly for me please |
| 18:06.48 | Wuffi600 | where can i find the latest sarge minimal install-iso that fetches quite all packages via apt-get from a debian-miror? |
| 18:07.07 | greycat | !d-i |
| 18:07.07 | dpkg | from memory, d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 18:07.12 | masoft | jim, Kylix is the Linux version of Delphi (and C++ Builder) from Borland |
| 18:07.14 | takatumi | hmm, acroread 7 renders neat. |
| 18:07.16 | simonrvn | @faqsmite Wuffi600 |
| 18:07.17 | ravenbird | Wuffi600: READ THE FAQ! http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ What's the matter with you? Didn't your mother teach you any manners? |
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| 18:07.38 | ico2_ | hi |
| 18:07.46 | E-bola | hmmm |
| 18:07.51 | oklinux | so does it work in linux ? |
| 18:07.54 | masoft | oklinux, Kylix is Linux Delphi :P so it must be not fast enough |
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| 18:08.03 | Lee__ | mhall: what's up with ncurses on yr system? |
| 18:08.05 | E-bola | after doing an apt-get upgrade and updating kernel headers and image, i got this in the install procedure: |
| 18:08.06 | E-bola | /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: add_modules_dep_2_5: modprobe failed |
| 18:08.06 | E-bola | FATAL: Module loop.ko_orig not found. |
| 18:08.07 | masoft | oklinux, of course it work ! it's for linux |
| 18:08.16 | E-bola | does this mean my loop-aes wont work anymore? |
| 18:08.20 | ico2_ | is there a way to make apt-get display all the files it is about to download including paths ie: http://packages.debian.org/whatever? |
| 18:08.37 | asg | ico2_: -s |
| 18:08.57 | mhall | Lee__: nothing, i need something multiplatform capable |
| 18:09.12 | oklinux | thanks masoft |
| 18:09.18 | mhall | Lee__: and ncurses depends on a lot of special terminal information files which i cannot just copy over with the editro |
| 18:09.25 | ico2_ | asg_thanks |
| 18:09.56 | Lee__ | ah, understood. have you tried vi? |
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| 18:10.01 | masoft | oklinux, I had not experience with it, just saw it's source code |
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| 18:10.15 | Thumper_ | Lee__: yes but system A uses one module and system B uses a different one. I'd rather not load both |
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| 18:10.28 | oklinux | how does it look masoft ? |
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| 18:10.37 | mhall | Lee__: well yes, of course there's vi |
| 18:10.45 | masoft | oklinux, I recommend use it in VM instead of your machine. may make your system unstable |
| 18:10.46 | mhall | Lee__: but it makes me unproductive to use it |
| 18:10.47 | Lee__ | Thumper_: have you tried the standard kernel with sarge? |
| 18:10.52 | greycat | Thumper_: yeah, because the 40k of memory the driver uses is just SOOOOOO much. |
| 18:10.59 | mhall | Lee__: i'm thinking i'll duke it out with emacs |
| 18:11.01 | Thumper_ | :) |
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| 18:11.26 | asg | mhall: since vi doesn't come with zippy the pinhead, I'd expect your productivity to increase |
| 18:11.30 | jim | mhall: ncurses is pretty well supported in debian... the terminal database is here |
| 18:11.32 | oklinux | what kind of vm masoft Im using openbox now |
| 18:11.36 | masoft | oklinux, it just make a Menu like WinXP and window borders. not more ... |
| 18:11.55 | ico2_ | asg: is there a way that (using that output) i can download all the files easily from a non-debian distro? |
| 18:12.00 | oklinux | i know I like to fool people just for kick |
| 18:12.01 | masoft | oklinux, I usually use VMWare |
| 18:12.21 | oklinux | vmware is expensive |
| 18:12.27 | asg | ico2_: erm, what are you trying to do? replicate a debian box to a redhat box? |
| 18:12.32 | ico2_ | no |
| 18:12.41 | Lee__ | oklinux: if you're looking for virtual machines, check user-mode-linux or xen |
| 18:12.42 | mhall | jim: debian's not the problem |
| 18:12.44 | masoft | oklinux, yes, qemu is other one. but I never used it |
| 18:12.51 | mhall | jim: it's the solaris machines i have to interop with |
| 18:12.55 | mhall | jim: they do not have ncurses |
| 18:13.00 | oklinux | what about crossover ? |
| 18:13.02 | gamjah | hello, does anybody knows if nmap has an interface?? |
| 18:13.05 | ico2_ | i need to get debs from the net to a non-debian box to a debian box without a net connection |
| 18:13.06 | jim | oic |
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| 18:13.11 | mhall | jim: so i'm hoping i can find an editor only requiring regular curses |
| 18:13.12 | asg | mhall: you can get them iirc at freesunsoftware or whatever that site is called |
| 18:13.13 | Lee__ | on paper xen operates like an IBM zseries |
| 18:13.20 | mhall | asg: they require ncurses |
| 18:13.21 | masoft | oklinux, crossover is not VM ! |
| 18:13.30 | mhall | asg: i'm not root, i cannot install the terminal db files |
| 18:13.32 | Lee__ | gamjah: yes, it has a command line interface |
| 18:13.39 | asg | mhall: oh, okay. |
| 18:13.41 | Chewie[] | What does the impending Sarge release mean for a Testing user? How will things change for me? Will I be bumped to today's unstable? |
| 18:13.44 | greycat | mhall: vim should be buildable with legacy unix curses |
| 18:13.49 | asg | !comfort mhall for having to use solaris |
| 18:13.49 | dpkg | There, there, mhall for having to use solaris. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:13.58 | masoft | oklinux, it's something like wine but more powerful |
| 18:13.59 | greycat | although I'd recommend installing ncurses, personally. |
| 18:14.02 | oklinux | I dont want vm I, want wm |
| 18:14.05 | gamjah | ok, sorry i meant a graphical interface |
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| 18:14.09 | rue_mohr | dpkg search libjava.so |
| 18:14.15 | jim | Chewie[]: if you want to continue using sarge, put "sarge" in your sources.list where "testing" is now |
| 18:14.19 | jethro | gamjah: nmapfe but it sucks |
| 18:14.32 | tarzeau | jethro: yes, because it's gtk |
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| 18:14.34 | rue_mohr | dpkg wont answer my searches... |
| 18:14.35 | mhall | greycat: yeah i am hoping i can find any other editor besides a vi one |
| 18:14.37 | beardy | !wm |
| 18:14.37 | dpkg | to set your system-wide default window manager, use "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager". or "update-alternatives --config x-session-manager" For your personal WM, use ~/.xsession if you use xdm or kdm (or gdm with a "Debian session") 'startx' reads .xsession or .xinitrc; "apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager" will give you a list of available WMs. |
| 18:14.40 | Lee__ | gamjah: why do you want a graphical interface for something that outputs craploads of text? |
| 18:14.42 | jethro | tarzeau: that's because nmap doesn't need anything else |
| 18:14.46 | rue_mohr | @find libjava |
| 18:14.49 | mhall | greycat: i'm thinking about trying an emacs build |
| 18:14.50 | gvandora | can someone tell me what package the "ip" command is... |
| 18:14.50 | Chewie[] | jim: Okay. If I leave Testing in there, though, will I be receiving updates? Unstable's updates, perhaps? |
| 18:14.58 | rue_mohr | >:/ |
| 18:14.58 | greycat | !bless mhall |
| 18:14.59 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child mhall, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 18:14.59 | mhall | greycat: but being gnu i bet they want ncurses |
| 18:15.03 | jethro | tarzeau: a GNUstep like gui for nmap would suck too |
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| 18:15.05 | Chewie[] | jim: My understanding of the Debian release cycle isn't even superficial. |
| 18:15.05 | paulswm | @say !qotd74 |
| 18:15.05 | ravenbird | !qotd74 |
| 18:15.05 | dpkg | [qotd74] < DrBlink> wow i didnt kno linux had an interface |
| 18:15.07 | rue_mohr | I'm losing my mind |
| 18:15.11 | mhall | greycat: :-D |
| 18:15.11 | tarzeau | jethro: no, it wouldn't |
| 18:15.12 | jethro | tarzeau: or whatever you call that |
| 18:15.12 | greycat | mhall: no, I'd expect the opposite. GNU emacs is VERY old. |
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| 18:15.17 | asg | paulswm: dpkg is still ignoring you? |
| 18:15.18 | mhall | greycat: really? |
| 18:15.20 | jim | I don't know... could be testing will disappear for a few days and updating won't work |
| 18:15.22 | gamjah | coz i think its easier to the newbies like me Lee_: |
| 18:15.22 | mhall | greycat: sweet |
| 18:15.25 | jethro | tarzeau: it would look nice, but still be as useful as nmapfe |
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| 18:15.31 | greycat | mhall: it's probably the oldest GNU project. |
| 18:15.32 | mhall | greycat: i was afraid they would have refactored by now |
| 18:15.33 | jim | but that wouldn't make sense |
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| 18:15.37 | masoft | oklinux, I know ! when there isn't DEB package for for this wm, it may make your system unstable. so if you just want to have experience with it, the best way is test it in VM |
| 18:15.38 | tarzeau | jethro: that's completely a different thing |
| 18:15.38 | mhall | greycat: yeah i knew it was old |
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| 18:15.47 | mhall | greycat: i was afraid of refactoring |
| 18:15.55 | tarzeau | jethro: useful is one thing, and suck another |
| 18:15.57 | jethro | tarzeau: I meant it sucked for being useless |
| 18:15.58 | jim | if they do everything at the same time, you'll start getting etch |
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| 18:16.04 | Chewie[] | jim: Er, that was phrased wrong. Will today's Unstable be shifted up to Testing, as Testing is shifted to Stable? |
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| 18:16.06 | tarzeau | jethro: i'd rather had my girlfriend suck, than be useful |
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| 18:16.13 | paulswm | asg: Yes, I wanted to replace an old qotd, so I did the one forget and dpkg immediately ignored me for abuse :( I think the timeout is 12 hours, I have 3 more left |
| 18:16.14 | jim | no |
| 18:16.20 | masoft | oklinux, where do you live ? |
| 18:16.23 | jethro | tarzeau: :) |
| 18:16.25 | asg | paulswm: joy |
| 18:16.29 | jim | unstable will ALWAYS be unstable, that will never change |
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| 18:16.41 | oklinux | masoft oklahoma city |
| 18:16.45 | tarzeau | jim: maybe one day it will |
| 18:16.58 | paulswm | asg: dpkg must have a sliding window for counting forgets or something, that's the only thing I can figure |
| 18:17.02 | mwelsh | are there any debian packages similar to xilinx? |
| 18:17.03 | gamjah | thanx for da help |
| 18:17.06 | jim | but there will be a new dist, presently called etch, that will becoem testing |
| 18:17.14 | asg | paulswm: I don't know |
| 18:17.16 | jim | tarzeau: people talking about that? |
| 18:17.28 | Chewie[] | jim: Ah, okay. I think I get it. Thanks. |
| 18:17.31 | tarzeau | jim: no, but you don't know the future - as me |
| 18:17.32 | paulswm | asg: But at least ravenbird is helping me out :) |
| 18:17.36 | asg | heh |
| 18:17.38 | Lee__ | gamjah: port scanning isn't for newbies. read the docs and deal with nmap's interface. |
| 18:17.39 | tarzeau | jim: but we know the toys of toy story are going out... |
| 18:17.40 | paulswm | @botsnack |
| 18:17.40 | ravenbird | paulswm: :) |
| 18:18.06 | gamjah | another choice for a graph interf for nmap is ---->> nmapsi |
| 18:18.15 | asg | tarzeau: then SPI will have to pay to have another film made will all new characters. |
| 18:18.17 | jim | tarzeau: that would require a complete revamp of how things work |
| 18:18.27 | kmalloc | hello |
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| 18:18.29 | jim | which could happen |
| 18:18.30 | tarzeau | how can i move a window in windows upwards 50% where the titlebar isn't visible anymore? i can't? |
| 18:18.32 | mhall | now the funny part, disabling detection of ncurses on this particular solaris box where i have it installed, lol |
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| 18:18.45 | gamjah | the thing is that i wanna get net maps (infrastructures) for the university |
| 18:18.45 | masoft | kmalloc, are you a KDE user ? |
| 18:18.49 | asg | mhall: :) |
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| 18:18.58 | tessier | Does the imminent release of Sarge have kernel 2.4 as the standard kernel? |
| 18:18.59 | mhall | tarzeau: no, you can |
| 18:19.01 | jethro | gamjah: that's not in debian is it? |
| 18:19.01 | kmalloc | how i use drbd0.7-module-source in sarge? anyone install drbd on sarge? |
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| 18:19.06 | tarzeau | mhall: but how? |
| 18:19.07 | Lee__ | gamjah: also not something for newbies |
| 18:19.08 | kmalloc | masoft, gnome user |
| 18:19.17 | mhall | tarzeau: right click in taskbar, do a minimize, maximize to get it full screen, then ... |
| 18:19.18 | gamjah | dont know jethro: |
| 18:19.21 | jim | but as long as it isn't that way, earlier comments still stand |
| 18:19.29 | mhall | tarzeau: go to the left corner menu |
| 18:19.34 | mhall | tarzeau: select move |
| 18:19.40 | mhall | tarzeau: then move it with the move tool |
| 18:19.42 | gamjah | i know but im a linux newbie, though linux is not for newbies |
| 18:20.02 | Lee__ | no, portscanning your university network isn't for newbies. Linux is just fine. |
| 18:20.09 | kmalloc | Anyone install drbr in sarge? |
| 18:20.11 | masoft | gamjah, Linux is for everyone, even my 6 y.o sister |
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| 18:20.33 | Spec | it's the port-scanning-without-knowing-what-you're-doing that isn't for newbies |
| 18:20.51 | asg | kmalloc: wtf is drbr |
| 18:21.08 | tarzeau | mhall: really i can't move it furhter than the top visible border :( |
| 18:21.09 | gamjah | i consider myself a newbie |
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| 18:21.28 | tarzeau | !noob |
| 18:21.28 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 18:21.31 | kmalloc | asg, wtf? |
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| 18:21.48 | asg | !wtf |
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| 18:22.02 | asg | tarzeau: http://www.grep.be/blog/2005/05/29/#usability |
| 18:22.05 | valdyn | tarzeau: click on the topleft corner on a different window to see the menu and the keyboard shortcut to moving your window |
| 18:22.12 | jethro | ~wtf wtf |
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| 18:22.28 | tarzeau | valdyn: there's no shortcut for it :( |
| 18:22.39 | greycat | not when? |
| 18:22.47 | gamjah | ok, does anybody know software that draws the infraestructure of a net?? (i mean node graph) |
| 18:23.00 | tarzeau | gamjah: graphviz |
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| 18:23.17 | Spec | dia... :) |
| 18:23.21 | asg | greycat: the fact that apt answered at all is surprising |
| 18:23.34 | jim | ~do you answer? |
| 18:23.35 | apt | yes, I answer. |
| 18:23.38 | gamjah | i know what im doing Spec but prefer begining with a graph interf, itll cost me less time |
| 18:23.43 | jethro | ~botsnack |
| 18:23.43 | apt | jethro: thanks |
| 18:23.46 | gamjah | thanx tarzeau: |
| 18:23.49 | tarzeau | asg: see so it's not possible. that sucks so much |
| 18:23.54 | tarzeau | !thanx |
| 18:23.54 | dpkg | sure thing, tarzeau |
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| 18:24.14 | tarzeau | mhall: i hate windowing systems that can't do that |
| 18:24.21 | tarzeau | is it possible kde and gnome can't do this as well? |
| 18:24.35 | valdyn | tarzeau: alt-f7 in gnome ( metacity ) |
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| 18:25.08 | valdyn | tarzeau: or rightlick on any window border |
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| 18:25.24 | paulswm | I ain't licking no borders |
| 18:25.45 | paulswm | :P |
| 18:25.56 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 18:25.56 | dpkg | i heard qotd64 is <jeanpoldeux> How can I know if the cpu of my girlfriend is a 386 or a 586? <greycat> jeanpoldeux: it's proprietary. |
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| 18:26.33 | Nexus | Anyone have a good link to explain what happens when you log into a debian server? How it knows to look in the motd file, what prompt to display, etc? |
| 18:26.45 | Nexus | I'm trying to follow the flow of commands that get's you to your environment. |
| 18:26.57 | greycat | !wikifaq Nexus DotFiles |
| 18:26.58 | dpkg | Nexus: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 18:26.58 | greycat | that's part of it. |
| 18:27.03 | simonrvn | gets'[1~' |
| 18:27.07 | simonrvn | ergh |
| 18:27.12 | simonrvn | 'gets' |
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| 18:27.58 | jim | Nexus: in the console case... if you look at /etc/inittab, you have 6 or more lines that fire up gettys |
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| 18:28.24 | jim | (so init would start them, so that's init -> getty) |
| 18:28.24 | Nexus | Ok. The getty's make sense. One issue I'm having is that root doesn't seem to be sourcing /etc/profile and I can't figure out why that is. |
| 18:28.52 | jim | Nexus: how are you logging in? |
| 18:29.03 | Nexus | jim, ssh |
| 18:29.10 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: what is your site? |
| 18:29.24 | jim | ok, so that should spawn a login shell |
| 18:29.24 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: www.lesbian.mine.nu ? |
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| 18:29.46 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: seriously |
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| 18:29.52 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yes |
| 18:29.59 | jethro | tarzeau: bubbles? |
| 18:30.08 | tarzeau | jethro: no. watching star wars ep3 |
| 18:30.08 | gvandora | I want to download the linux-wlan-ng package which is in the unstable dist. however I'm running testing, how would I go about doing that |
| 18:30.17 | jethro | tarzeau: at home? |
| 18:30.25 | tarzeau | jethro: yeah. where else? |
| 18:30.29 | jim | anyways, when getty has the login name and passwd the user typed, it spawns login (so that's init -> getty -> login) |
| 18:30.30 | jethro | tarzeau: naughty boy |
| 18:30.31 | K_Dallas | gvandora, apt-get install -t unstable foo |
| 18:30.33 | tarzeau | jethro: if i go to the cinema, it's not to watch a film |
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| 18:30.45 | gvandora | K_Dallas: thanks |
| 18:30.58 | sandzak | after dpkg-reconfigure locales have this message: "locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20" how to fix this??? |
| 18:31.04 | jim | the pids of getty and login will match because getty uses exec |
| 18:31.06 | Nexus | jim, Ok. So when I login, then it's supposed to go through various places looking for files to run such as .profile, etc. But root is different for some reason? |
| 18:31.07 | K_Dallas | np, make sure you have unstable in your sources.list |
| 18:31.15 | K_Dallas | oops |
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| 18:31.49 | simonrvn | @tell root_ -about root |
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| 18:31.58 | Nexus | The dotfiles file says it's supposed to hit /etc/profile first, but root obviously isn't. Yet I have another debian box that seems to work just fine. |
| 18:32.01 | greycat | jim: actually getty calls login as soon as it has the name. login asks for the password. |
| 18:32.04 | mhall | tarzeau: i've had trouble getting that feature to work in a number of places |
| 18:32.13 | greycat | Nexus: "obviously" why? |
| 18:32.25 | greycat | Nexus: and why are you logging in as root? |
| 18:32.30 | tarzeau | mhall: i'll go away from this horrible nightmare machine as soon the film is over |
| 18:32.43 | simonrvn | because s/he's incompetent? |
| 18:32.55 | Nexus | greycat, Because it's not getting the color prompt, aliases, etc that are in it. I only login as root to test the setup, otherwise I always su - to root |
| 18:32.57 | mhall | tarzeau: :-) it's not just the fault of windows |
| 18:33.06 | tarzeau | mhall: yes, mac os x is horrible too |
| 18:33.21 | mhall | tarzeau: blech, yes, _so_ slow |
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| 18:33.39 | tarzeau | mhall: yes, i way have no patience to wait such systems |
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| 18:33.47 | greycat | Nexus: you put *aliases* in /etc/profile??? WHY? |
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| 18:33.58 | greycat | what the hell good is *that* supposed to be? |
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| 18:34.43 | tarzeau | mhall: most pleasant for me is still OPENSTEP |
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| 18:35.01 | Nexus | Good question. I've just always copied files over that have worked in the past. I know that root doesn't have a .bashrc or .profile and yet on past systems it's gotten what it needed. I assumed that's the file it gets it from. Looks like I was wrong? |
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| 18:35.26 | greycat | Nexus: root has both .profile and .bashrc on a debian install. |
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| 18:35.36 | tarzeau | Nexus: huh? |
| 18:35.40 | greycat | not that it matters, because you DO NOT login as root. |
| 18:35.49 | tarzeau | Nexus: yes you are wrong |
| 18:36.02 | stouse1 | greycat: But browsing the web as root is fun :-( |
| 18:36.02 | greycat | unless you're on the text-only console because you're fixing something broken. |
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| 18:36.22 | greycat | and then you don't give a flying fuck about colors. |
| 18:36.32 | EranJ | which simple irc client do u suggest? |
| 18:36.32 | stouse1 | greycat: I can't wait until there are finally some Gecko exploits so I can join in on the fun, too |
| 18:36.36 | greycat | EranJ: irssi |
| 18:36.37 | asg | EranJ: irssi-text |
| 18:36.38 | tarzeau | EranJ: talksoup.app |
| 18:36.38 | EranJ | got x-chat, is it fine? |
| 18:36.39 | K_Dallas | First time i was deciding to use Debian or not I visited the homepage and noticed it was oooold ;) 2002! so it was a definitive no for me, now after a year or two i am only running that :) You guys have to make it more interesting and real on the frontpage for the first time visitors ;) |
| 18:36.41 | beardy | Nexus: Use your users own .bash_profile and .bashrc, and root's own ones, if you have to change anything. Better to leave the system wide ones in /etc alone. |
| 18:36.44 | tarzeau | EranJ: no |
| 18:36.50 | stouse1 | EranJ: Well, does it work? |
| 18:36.51 | EranJ | got ya,thanx |
| 18:36.55 | stouse1 | EranJ: If yes, then yes. |
| 18:36.58 | EranJ | hehe |
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| 18:37.12 | EranJ | any difference between irssi and talsoup.app? |
| 18:37.14 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: we guys don't make the frontpage of d.o |
| 18:37.36 | jim | Nexus, you should look at man bash in the FILES section |
| 18:37.37 | EranJ | I've heard about bitchx |
| 18:37.38 | K_Dallas | well, i thought maybe they come here from time to time ;) |
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| 18:37.52 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: no, they are in #debian-devel |
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| 18:37.56 | jim | that will show you what is sourced and when |
| 18:38.05 | stouset | EranJ: The general consensus around here is that BitchX is a piece of crap. |
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| 18:38.14 | EranJ | wow,good to know |
| 18:38.21 | K_Dallas | :) |
| 18:38.25 | EranJ | what's the reason for being crap? |
| 18:38.28 | multi_io | apt-get install findutils doesn't install the /etc/cron.daily/find file belonging to the package: http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~klischat/mydocs/apt/BUG.txt.html |
| 18:38.32 | jim | K_Dallas: actually they do come here... for example I think overfiend is here now |
| 18:38.38 | multi_io | is this a bug or what? |
| 18:38.39 | stouset | EranJ: Couldn't tell you. That's just what I hear. |
| 18:38.39 | mhall | tarzeau: if i'm in a hurry to do something trivial in X really really quickly, i use open look |
| 18:38.45 | tarzeau | jim: does he edit any webpage? |
| 18:38.46 | mhall | tarzeau: ancient, and extremely trivial |
| 18:38.46 | stouset | jim: overfiend is always here |
| 18:38.46 | jim | yep, confirmed, his client is here |
| 18:38.54 | mhall | tarzeau: therefore very fast |
| 18:38.55 | DAB | hello. when I run the command "glxinfo | grep direct" I get this output: "Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key" |
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| 18:38.57 | backblue | hi, i'm exporting my /home/software by nfs, and it works ok in another pcs, i have mounted in /home/software/x another partition, and in another pcs it seems empty, why? |
| 18:38.58 | DAB | a problem with .Xauthority? |
| 18:39.04 | EranJ | nevermind.brb from my self installed debian :-) |
| 18:39.12 | DAB | does anybody how to fix it? |
| 18:39.18 | tarzeau | mhall: yes i know it |
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| 18:39.42 | mhall | tarzeau: the interface is sucky but who cares :-) |
| 18:39.43 | Nexus | jim, So what should /etc/profile have in it for system wide? |
| 18:39.46 | greycat | DAB: don't be root. |
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| 18:39.46 | K_Dallas | thanks jim. i said it because i was reading /. and there was a piece of news about the release date of sarge and that the last release was on 2002! that sounds awfully inactive if you do not know the work |
| 18:39.50 | jim | DAB: you're running the x server as one user and running glxinfo as another? |
| 18:39.50 | tarzeau | mhall: absolutely |
| 18:39.54 | tarzeau | mhall: do they still ship it? |
| 18:40.03 | mhall | tarzeau: they open sourced it |
| 18:40.10 | mhall | tarzeau: apt-get install olwm olvwm |
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| 18:40.22 | mhall | tarzeau: somebody made a hacked copy with more desktops |
| 18:40.23 | tarzeau | mhall: oh. you know there's OPENSTEP for on top of solaris, and i usually compile wmaker on it |
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| 18:40.35 | tarzeau | mhall: yeah i know/seen olvwm/olwm (two friends use it) |
| 18:40.39 | stouset | K_Dallas: *shrug* People already know about Debian, and they know how its release cycle works. If they don't like it, they'll find another distro. |
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| 18:41.02 | stouset | K_Dallas: From my experience, people usually end up at Debian (or a derivative) anyways. |
| 18:41.07 | gvandora | K_Dallas: How do I configure apt-get so it knows where the unstable sources are w/o always using them? |
| 18:41.09 | jim | Nexus: given we're talking about a debian installation, the debian default is probably fine... |
| 18:41.10 | K_Dallas | stouset, that is not true for the first time visitors but it might have been just me |
| 18:41.16 | DAB | jim: You are totaly correct *my bad* ;) |
| 18:41.16 | jim | aliases would go in your .bashrc |
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| 18:41.22 | K_Dallas | gvandora, i tried to tell you but you left too early |
| 18:41.24 | Nexus | jim, Problem is though that I replaced the debian default. :) |
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| 18:41.52 | gvandora | K_dallas: sorry, I was so excited to get my wireless working. |
| 18:41.54 | Nexus | jim, Also, where does motd get called from when you login? |
| 18:41.55 | valdyn | Nexus: the defaults are in /etc/skel/ |
| 18:41.57 | stouset | K_Dallas: People who haven't heard about Debian before are, stereotypically speaking, probably not the type of people that, right now, will be able to administer a Debian system. |
| 18:42.00 | jim | it's possible to get it back |
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| 18:42.10 | tarzeau | Nexus: it's not "called" |
| 18:42.12 | jim | Nexus: pam does it, I think |
| 18:42.18 | tarzeau | Nexus: and it's possible to bypass it (.hushlogin?) |
| 18:42.24 | K_Dallas | gvandora, try this: deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib |
| 18:42.27 | Tiberio | My environment variable in .Xsession don't init, when I choose GNOME from login dialog of gdm. |
| 18:42.31 | Nexus | tarzeau, Sorry, I'm using the best terminology I know... :-( |
| 18:42.31 | gvandora | stouset: I'd have to agree with you.. I'm quite familiar with debian... and I still pull my hair out :) |
| 18:42.33 | K_Dallas | and this deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib |
| 18:42.37 | greycat | Tiberio: correct. |
| 18:42.39 | K_Dallas | in your sources.list |
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| 18:42.42 | pmcdonnell | Do modifications made to the routing made (using the route command) stay in effect through reboots? |
| 18:42.48 | greycat | ~/.gnomerc |
| 18:42.49 | apt | ~/.gnomerc is the startup file for gdm, or <hippie> .gnomerc looks like it's pronounced "no mercy", or set the DEBUG_GNOME_SESSION variable to make ~/.gnomerc act sane |
| 18:42.49 | asg | pmcdonnell: nope |
| 18:42.53 | tarzeau | pmcdonnell: no |
| 18:42.56 | greycat | pmcdonnell: no |
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| 18:43.01 | tarzeau | pmcdonnell: but on windows you can use -p for persistency |
| 18:43.06 | gvandora | K_Dallas: Let me give that a whirl |
| 18:43.10 | pmcdonnell | ok |
| 18:43.12 | K_Dallas | sure |
| 18:43.16 | Fleck | is there KDE 3.4.1 debian packages ? |
| 18:43.19 | greycat | Fleck: /topic |
| 18:43.23 | asg | Fleck: /topic #debian-kde |
| 18:43.28 | Fleck | ohh sorry :) |
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| 18:44.07 | Fleck | thanks guys :) |
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| 18:44.21 | K_Dallas | stouset : that is not true, i run my home desktop for personal needs and not a linux guru yet i have found debian the easiest distro to wrok with (with the help i have got from here and the manual) |
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| 18:44.45 | Fleck | /msg bots NOT people <<< hehe :) |
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| 18:45.10 | Tiberio | greycat, thanks |
| 18:45.38 | stouset | K_Dallas: You said yourself you came across Debian two years ago and rejected it. That would lead me to believe you at least have a year or so of experience. |
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| 18:46.21 | K_Dallas | well true but using suse or mandrake does not count as experience as it was more like gui-windows thing :) i never knew where the heck were the config files etc |
| 18:46.45 | kantai | hey, can anyone help me with a problem I've been having with kernel 2.6.11 (not really debian specific), when I upgrade from 9 to 11, eth0 fails to go up- and I just don't know why... |
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| 18:46.59 | asg | kantai: because 2.6.11 is broken? |
| 18:47.01 | stouset | K_Dallas: Doesn't matter. You get a lot of knowledge through osmosis like that. |
| 18:47.08 | K_Dallas | lol |
| 18:47.10 | K_Dallas | !lol |
| 18:47.10 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a kitten. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 18:47.16 | greycat | asg: then use 2.6.9. |
| 18:47.17 | kantai | asg: is it? |
| 18:47.19 | greycat | er. |
| 18:47.20 | jim | if you ever had to write a script for setting up a user after creating, you'd learn where they were pretty quick :) |
| 18:47.22 | greycat | kantai: then use 2.6.9. |
| 18:47.29 | rvl | Does anyone have experience with Xen? |
| 18:47.31 | asg | greycat: agreed, or even 2.6.10 which has bee somewhat stable |
| 18:47.32 | stouset | kantai: And file a bug report. |
| 18:47.35 | tarzeau | !anyone |
| 18:47.35 | dpkg | hmm... anyone is ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 18:47.36 | initech | lol, lol, lol , lol <- i HATE kittens |
| 18:47.41 | kantai | ok |
| 18:47.47 | asg | !tell ralf about away |
| 18:47.54 | Fleck | ;p |
| 18:48.13 | Fleck | what's about away asg :) ? |
| 18:48.16 | PerfDave | kantai: Does your netwrok interface have a different name under your new kernel? |
| 18:48.17 | kantai | I'll do that... I wonder if its a debian specific problem, is the debian source significantly different than the official source? |
| 18:48.21 | Fleck | !tell Fleck about away |
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| 18:48.27 | kantai | PerfDave: I don't think so |
| 18:48.30 | SPF | I just started my comp after a blackout, mysql won't start, where can I find the errorlog? |
| 18:48.34 | PerfDave | kantai: Check? |
| 18:48.35 | Fleck | ohh cool :) |
| 18:48.48 | asg | SPF: guess |
| 18:48.53 | SPF | var log? |
| 18:48.57 | SPF | looked there |
| 18:49.01 | FarrisG | I have a local mirror I created with apt-mirror. Anyone know why the index tells apt-get to look for login_4.0.3-31sarge3_i386.deb (which gets a 404) when what's really there is login_4.0.3-31sarge1_i386.deb? |
| 18:49.04 | kantai | PerfDave: do you mean like "eth0"? |
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| 18:49.10 | PerfDave | kantai: Yes |
| 18:49.11 | coywolf | how to change time zone? |
| 18:49.15 | coywolf | no |
| 18:49.17 | asg | coywolf: tzconfig |
| 18:49.21 | jim | asg: that's not so bad... it's not an automatic, repetitive thing that says things like "yuuuuuuperz, I'm still not here!" |
| 18:49.21 | kantai | PerfDave: it doesnt |
| 18:49.29 | SPF | it just says "050531 20:48:41 mysqld ended" |
| 18:49.33 | PerfDave | kantai: So what happens when you try to bring up the interface? |
| 18:49.37 | SPF | nothing in the logs |
| 18:49.38 | valdyn | FarrisG: b/c your index file is new and your packages are old |
| 18:49.39 | coywolf | asg, how to change GMT clock |
| 18:49.45 | asg | coywolf: hwclock |
| 18:49.48 | coywolf | asg, how to change to GMT clock or not |
| 18:49.49 | kantai | PerfDave: I'll check the log for the exact message |
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| 18:50.07 | jim | tzconfig? |
| 18:50.12 | coywolf | asg, what args to hwclock? |
| 18:50.17 | asg | jim: no, not so bad but it still crufts up the channel |
| 18:50.20 | FarrisG | valdyn: That was my assumption, but how is that possible? The index came from the same mirror |
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| 18:50.28 | coywolf | asg, how to change to GMT clock or local timezone? |
| 18:50.34 | jim | tzconfig? |
| 18:50.39 | coywolf | no |
| 18:50.43 | valdyn | FarrisG: resync your mirror? |
| 18:50.49 | jim | running debian? :) |
| 18:50.54 | asg | coywolf: look at the manpage for hwclock, it provides a number of options. |
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| 18:51.09 | FarrisG | valdyn: It was just resynced last night |
| 18:51.18 | valdyn | FarrisG: so? |
| 18:51.41 | mhall | Alright, I have investigated and it appears it might be possible to install terminal info files to an alternate location, now, if one does this, how does one point ncurses to the new alternate location of the files? |
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| 18:52.39 | coywolf | how to query the system hwclock format? be it GMT or not? |
| 18:52.50 | coywolf | asg, not hwclock |
| 18:52.58 | coywolf | nothing to do with hwclock |
| 18:52.59 | coywolf | asg |
| 18:53.01 | coywolf | ^ |
| 18:53.09 | tarzeau | coywolf: it doesn't have a timezone |
| 18:53.24 | FarrisG | valdyn: I'll try resyncing once more |
| 18:53.34 | kantai | PerfDave: sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 |
| 18:53.43 | coywolf | tarzeau, where (conf file) determines the clock is GMT or not? |
| 18:53.47 | PerfDave | kantai: See, that's interface sit0, not interface eth0 :) |
| 18:53.49 | kantai | PerfDave: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device |
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| 18:53.56 | FarrisG | valdyn: Nope. No dice |
| 18:53.59 | kantai | PerfDave: ya |
| 18:54.00 | asg | coywolf: /etc/default/rcS |
| 18:54.04 | kantai | PerfDave: but umm |
| 18:54.22 | kantai | PerfDave: then it says: "eth0: No such device" |
| 18:54.22 | coywolf | asg, thanks |
| 18:54.31 | asg | you're welcome |
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| 18:54.37 | PerfDave | kantai: So you have no eth0 in your 2.6.11 kernel? |
| 18:54.48 | kantai | PerfDave: apparently |
| 18:54.58 | multi_io | apt-get install doesn't: http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~klischat/mydocs/apt/BUG.txt.html |
| 18:55.06 | multi_io | ? |
| 18:55.14 | PerfDave | kantai: That contradicts what you said earlier ;) |
| 18:55.14 | kantai | PerfDave: but my card is listed in a `lspci` |
| 18:55.39 | valdyn | FarrisG: did you check if that file is available on that debian mirror you are using? |
| 18:55.40 | asg | multi_io: /msg dpkg conf-miss |
| 18:55.46 | Spec | that means the module for that card is not loaded into your kernel |
| 18:55.46 | PerfDave | kantai: lspci only shows what cards on the PCI bus report themselves as. It has nothing to do with whether your kernel supports them. |
| 18:55.49 | asg | bah |
| 18:55.50 | jim | so what's missing is a driver |
| 18:55.52 | Spec | kantai: ^^ |
| 18:55.53 | asg | multi_io: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 18:56.05 | PerfDave | kantai: "ifconfig -a" will show you all the network interfaces your kernel recognises. |
| 18:56.19 | valdyn | !info login sarge |
| 18:56.23 | dpkg | login: (system login tools), section base, is required. Version: 1:4.0.3-31sarge5 (sarge), Packaged size: 562 kB, Installed size: 1666 kB |
| 18:56.28 | PerfDave | kantai: If your interface is not there, it's lacking driver support. If it's there under a different name, you need to fix that, possibly using the ifrename package. |
| 18:56.33 | multi_io | asg: thank you! |
| 18:56.34 | jim | that will show you all the interfaces that had drivers loaded for them |
| 18:56.35 | kantai | Spec: I thought it would have something to do with the module |
| 18:56.56 | valdyn | FarrisG: looking at what dpkg sais your mirror seems horribly out of date.. |
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| 18:56.59 | kantai | Spec: but why would that break from 2.6.9 to 2.6.11 |
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| 18:57.25 | PerfDave | kantai: Did you compile your own kernel or use a Debian-provided kernel-image? |
| 18:57.25 | Spec | kantai: what's your network card? |
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| 18:57.48 | kantai | PerfDave: both, same problem |
| 18:57.58 | asg | Spec: if it's a tg3 driver, that firmware was removed from 2.6.11 iirc |
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| 18:58.05 | PerfDave | kantai: Does the interface have a different name in 2.6.11, or is it missing? |
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| 18:58.10 | kantai | Spec: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit |
| 18:58.14 | asg | bingo |
| 18:58.16 | Spec | which is tg3.o :p |
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| 18:58.23 | Spec | or ko |
| 18:58.30 | OleMoudi | I'm kind of ignorant on each debian branch details/policies and after reading some posts regarding sarge relase a doubt scares me. Running testing, am I suppose to be aware and fix the security bugs that may appear on openssh by upgrading or periodic apt-get upgrade's will do the job? |
| 18:58.32 | kantai | PerfDave: the interface has the same name, but it can't find the device |
| 18:58.39 | Spec | asg: removed from 2.6.11 altogether, or just debian's kernel? |
| 18:58.43 | mops | how can I load a module on startup? |
| 18:58.53 | asg | Spec: can't remember if debian kernels can be shoehorned to use the upstream firmware. You are probably better off compiling your own. |
| 18:58.54 | paulswm | There is far too much sensible stuff in #debian, either someone murdered the whackos, or I am peeking in at the wrong times. |
| 18:58.55 | mops | but not only once, but every boot |
| 18:58.56 | iostream | Hi. According to slashdot, security in Woody will still be supported for 12 monnths after Sarge is released.. I was wondering.. What should /etc/apt/sources.list be changed to in this case? |
| 18:58.59 | FarrisG | valdyn: Doesn't appear to be "horribly" out of date to me |
| 18:59.00 | PerfDave | kantai: No, the interface has no name in 2.6.11, it doesn't exist in 2.6.11 |
| 18:59.03 | asg | Spec: last I heard, just debian's kernel |
| 18:59.08 | Spec | ah, ok |
| 18:59.14 | FarrisG | valdyn: And no, that package is not available on the mirror I'm mirroring from |
| 18:59.23 | Spec | kantai: you can compile the tiagon3 driver off of your current kernel headers then, methinks |
| 18:59.25 | asg | !pubtime |
| 18:59.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, pubtime is time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
| 18:59.28 | PerfDave | iostream: If you're not upgrading your Woody server to Sarge, just point at "woody" instead of "stable" in sources.list |
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| 18:59.51 | user_user | is there some editor in kde that can show an xml tree? |
| 18:59.56 | kantai | Spec: I'll try that |
| 19:00.22 | PerfDave | Upstream kernel maintainers don't seem to be concerned about the legal implications of non-free firmware in the Linux kernel :/ |
| 19:00.24 | paulswm | OleMoudi: AFAIK, security updates are being applied to sarge, but make sure your sources.list points to sarge and not testing so you stay with it when it switches to stable. |
| 19:00.25 | Spec | kantai: just compile the tg3.o module somehow :p, and then insmod it, and ifconfig -a will show you an eth0 |
| 19:00.28 | tarzeau | user_user: you must be kidding |
| 19:00.46 | iostream | PerfDave: Like: deb http://security.debian.org woody/updates main ? |
| 19:00.49 | kantai | Spec: ok |
| 19:00.51 | PerfDave | iostream: That should work |
| 19:00.54 | jasoncohen | does debian have any software to backup dual-layer DVD movies to a regular DVD+R/RW? |
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| 19:00.58 | OleMoudi | paulswm, but what happens if I keep on testing, does that mean I don't get security updates? |
| 19:01.02 | PerfDave | OleMoudi: If you're running Sarge, it will have security updates when it releases, and may do so already. |
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| 19:01.05 | iostream | PerfDave: Excellent.. Thanks.. Will check it out, when the time comes. :) |
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| 19:01.27 | Spec | jasoncohen: you would need to span it across 2 dvds methinks? |
| 19:01.29 | PerfDave | OleMoudi: If you stay on testing (and move to Etch), you won't get security updates. There are proposals for the Debian security team to support Testing, but nothing concrete yet AFAIK. |
| 19:01.36 | paulswm | OleMoudi: you will when sarge is in there, but not when testing becomes etch |
| 19:01.44 | Spec | jasoncohen: or find some editing software and cut out crap you dont' need so it fits on one dvd, but i'm not sure what software you would use |
| 19:01.51 | jasoncohen | Spec, so there's nothing for linux like the windows software which compresses the dvd and then burns it? |
| 19:02.06 | Spec | jasoncohen: oh wait, you don't want it to work in a dvd player? :p |
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| 19:02.24 | paulswm | OleMoudi: That's why I'm saying to track sarge, not testing. 'testing' is a container, 'sarge' is the curremt contents if that gives a better way to pitcure it |
| 19:02.25 | PerfDave | jasoncohen: How does this software you're talking about work? Does it just re-encode at lower bitrate? |
| 19:02.32 | Celiun | ok, this might sound as a serious newbie question, but bare with me, I am new to Debian and linux in general... but I was installing Debian through http and my screen just went black, should I be scared? |
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| 19:02.40 | PerfDave | Celiun: Press the shift key? |
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| 19:02.48 | greycat | jasoncohen: you want dvd::rip from marillat. |
| 19:02.56 | Spec | Celiun: press a button :p |
| 19:02.59 | Celiun | Thanks, that worked |
| 19:03.01 | multi_io | asg: it doesn't work, unfortunately :(. I issued 'apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install findutils', and it made no difference. The file wasn't installed. |
| 19:03.02 | paulswm | @win PerfDave |
| 19:03.02 | ravenbird | Congratulations, PerfDave! You have won the US presidency! |
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| 19:03.12 | Spec | Celiun: it's the ghetto-black-screen-saver :p |
| 19:03.13 | jasoncohen | PerfDave, you usually have the option of removing some extras that you don't want but it usually can trim down the size of the DVD to fit on a regular DVD+R w/o re-encoding ...it uses some quick compression method |
| 19:03.15 | PerfDave | Celiun: The screen blanks with inactivity :) |
| 19:03.27 | PerfDave | jasoncohen: Probably just dumping alternate frames or something. |
| 19:03.35 | Celiun | yeah, should have guessed |
| 19:03.51 | OleMoudi | but paulswm, in a few months, sarge packages will be outdated for Desktop use, thats the reason I use testing, because I like somewhat "recent" Desktop apps versions |
| 19:03.57 | paulswm | PerfDave: Some people's screens must be blank all the time then, heh |
| 19:04.10 | OleMoudi | but now Im discovering testing its a vulnerable set of packages |
| 19:04.13 | Spec | jasoncohen: you'd be better off preserving the quality and takin out things you don't need from the dvd, (subtitles in languages you don't know, audio in languages you don't know/want to hear, etc) |
| 19:04.13 | OleMoudi | without security updates |
| 19:04.18 | PerfDave | OleMoudi: Sarge packages will get no worse for desktop use than they already are :) |
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| 19:04.36 | gvandora | K_dallas: sorry, I was so excited to get my wireless working./quit |
| 19:04.36 | Celiun | I rarely dare do anything if the screen goes blank, seeing as I'm a windows user |
| 19:04.42 | Celiun | or well, ex-windows user |
| 19:04.49 | gvandora | K_dallas: thanks. I'm all set |
| 19:05.14 | OleMoudi | PerfDave, woody packages have become worse for Desktop use over time |
| 19:05.14 | tarzeau | OleMoudi: we still use it for desktop at work |
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| 19:05.20 | tarzeau | OleMoudi: on 150 machines, more than 3000 users |
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| 19:05.28 | paulswm | OleMoudi: I have tried to explain to you the difference between sarge and testing. testing IS currently getting security updates becuase testing == sarge. When testing becomes wtch, there will be no security updates. So you must asses your own risk comfort level. |
| 19:05.38 | paulswm | s/wtch/etch/ |
| 19:05.49 | PerfDave | OleMoudi: How? They're the same version, modulo security patches. |
| 19:05.57 | zepeuga | can anyone tell me a good web interface tool, to admin a webserver ? for ex (add user, limit space in disk for each user, limit databases...etc) ? |
| 19:06.00 | tarzeau | OleMoudi: only 3 years |
| 19:06.05 | jasoncohen | greycat, thanks |
| 19:06.08 | tarzeau | zepeuga: mcedit |
| 19:06.15 | PerfDave | zepeuga: There is no such thing as a good web-based administration tool ;) |
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| 19:06.31 | jasoncohen | zepeuga, you're probably thinking of webmin |
| 19:06.41 | Spec | testing is becoming etch? |
| 19:06.49 | tarzeau | Spec: other way around |
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| 19:06.55 | Spec | etch is becomming testing? |
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| 19:07.01 | Spec | what was etch before it became/becomes testing? |
| 19:07.06 | Celiun | well, least you guys seem friendlier than the Fedora people, but then again, I am pretty much a linux idiot |
| 19:07.06 | paulswm | *sigh* |
| 19:07.15 | greycat | Spec: /msg dpkg etch |
| 19:07.16 | tarzeau | Spec: it didn't exist before |
| 19:07.19 | Spec | and why do I get the feeling I need to upgrade my monitor to an etch-a-sketch-thingy |
| 19:07.25 | multi_io | asg: it works with -o "dpkg::options::=--force-confmiss" |
| 19:07.33 | paulswm | Celiun: ask a really dumb question and see what happens :> |
| 19:07.49 | zepeuga | PerfDave, so your saying its better to create by hand, each user, and limit him some things like space by hand ? |
| 19:07.55 | Celiun | paulswm: I'm not THAT stupid |
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| 19:08.30 | Celiun | well, least I hope I'm not |
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| 19:08.55 | PerfDave | zepeuga: No, I'm saying that you should automate the process with bash scripting :) |
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| 19:09.05 | jethro | !irritate Celiun |
| 19:09.06 | dpkg | Celiun: Y iz debain so old? how can I make my libranet werkz kthx |
| 19:09.06 | paulswm | Celiun: Heh. for instance... |
| 19:09.08 | paulswm | @say !qotd9 |
| 19:09.08 | ravenbird | !qotd9 |
| 19:09.08 | dpkg | <caphuso> linagee: so, now would be a good time to start reading the fucking manual before i start fucking you |
| 19:09.24 | Celiun | lol |
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| 19:09.27 | paulswm | :D |
| 19:09.41 | Celiun | well, good thing I know of the man command :p |
| 19:09.50 | PeTeRB | Celiun: Gooooood. |
| 19:09.59 | zepeuga | PerfDave, but its very silly to many webhosting companys, create many accounts in machine by day without a easy to use interface... |
| 19:10.04 | K_Dallas | Overfiend, what happened there? did i say anything? ;) |
| 19:10.05 | Overfiend | "Yes," /me muses as he picks his teeth, "gods *do* walk the earth." |
| 19:10.16 | thingfish | hehe |
| 19:10.21 | PerfDave | zepeuga: Yes, but a shell script is more easy to use than a web interface :) |
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| 19:10.46 | tarzeau | zepeuga: anyone can make a "better" shell |
| 19:11.16 | PerfDave | zepeuga: Generally, web interfaces mush up your config files, leave them in a form which is not easily human-read, and limit the admin to the functionality of the web script. Shell scripts on the other hand rapidly automate repetitive tasks while still encouraging the admin to exploit the full potential of the systems he's using. |
| 19:11.46 | PerfDave | Celiun: If you're using a Sarge snapshot, the packages on the Internet might be newer than the packages on the CD, in which case apt will grab stuff off the web. |
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| 19:12.20 | i_m_meen | is there a romanian debian channel around here? |
| 19:12.20 | Celiun | It's the woody cd set, version 30r4 |
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| 19:12.26 | tarzeau | !ro |
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| 19:12.33 | Celiun | well, pretty sure it was woody, didn't write it on the cds |
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| 19:13.11 | Celiun | still, I guess it removes the point of updating after installation is done |
| 19:13.46 | paulswm | Celiun: if it's old and creaky and 'cat /etc/debian_version' returns 'w.0', it's woody |
| 19:14.02 | paulswm | s/w.0/3.0/ |
| 19:14.28 | Celiun | I'll find out soon enough |
| 19:14.37 | Celiun | still getting files |
| 19:14.44 | i_m_meen | tarzeau: what does !ro mean? |
| 19:15.01 | Celiun | and it's getting 4.1.0-16woody files, so yeah, it's woody |
| 19:15.04 | PerfDave | PeTeRB: Yes, because you can test the Woody -> Sarge upgrade path and file bug reports :) |
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| 19:15.09 | tarzeau | i_m_meen: it asks dpkg to tell us what he knows about romanian |
| 19:15.22 | tarzeau | i_m_meen: looks like she doesn't know anything about it, honey |
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| 19:15.36 | PeTeRB | PerfDave: Hmm. Using lusers for that purpose is a nice idea :) |
| 19:15.37 | paulswm | Celiun: Do you have a high speed connection, if so, suggest you ditch woody and get the sarge netinstall iso |
| 19:15.40 | Spec | !ro means not read only |
| 19:15.49 | i_m_meen | !ro |
| 19:16.05 | PerfDave | PeTeRB: I've not had a chance to dist-upgrade a Woody box to Sarge yet, I keep getting new hardware and installing Sarge on it directly. |
| 19:16.08 | Spec | at least to me it does :p |
| 19:16.13 | i_m_meen | !ro == w |
| 19:16.15 | PerfDave | PeTeRB: Still, I've got a few servers to dist-upgrade over the next week or so. |
| 19:16.22 | rob_lt | Does anyone know if the marillat is going to have a "sarge" repo instead of just a stable/testing/unstable repo? |
| 19:16.29 | PeTeRB | PerfDave: Ah. |
| 19:16.33 | paulswm | @win Spec |
| 19:16.34 | ravenbird | Congratulations, Spec! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 19:16.36 | tarzeau | rob_lt: ask him |
| 19:16.40 | Spec | yes! |
| 19:16.41 | Spec | awesome! |
| 19:16.45 | Spec | !kill paulswm |
| 19:16.51 | rob_lt | tarzeau: I was wondering if anyone here knew him, or even was him ;) |
| 19:16.53 | paulswm | Aarrgh |
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| 19:17.05 | tarzeau | rob_lt: not me |
| 19:17.06 | paulswm | I have a special smite for you, Spec |
| 19:17.10 | PerfDave | PeTeRB: We're moving offices, so we've been duplicating servers to allow a smooth transferral to our new premises for our critical servers. |
| 19:17.12 | Spec | wait... |
| 19:17.13 | rob_lt | tarzeau: well, that's one down |
| 19:17.14 | Spec | !lart paulswm |
| 19:17.23 | Spec | how is that a lart? |
| 19:17.25 | paulswm | @say !singlishsmite Spec |
| 19:17.26 | ravenbird | !singlishsmite Spec |
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| 19:17.26 | dpkg | Spec: Still say some more! Whack you then you know! |
| 19:17.37 | Spec | where's the really big unix manual that hits you? |
| 19:17.43 | supaman | !abuse |
| 19:17.44 | dpkg | RAPE! RAPE!! Don't ever come near me again! |
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| 19:18.08 | Spec | err, paulswm, that was confusing...i'm not sure i understand what dpkg is saying :p |
| 19:18.09 | paulswm | :D |
| 19:18.22 | Celiun | that bot seems almost more fun than the ircfool bot on rizon |
| 19:18.26 | paulswm | Spec: singlish is Singapore English |
| 19:18.36 | tarzeau | !bot |
| 19:18.36 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 19:18.38 | Spec | ah, singapore english, understanding is now completed by me :p |
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| 19:18.57 | tarzeau | !gender |
| 19:18.57 | dpkg | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 19:19.13 | Celiun | correction, it's even more fun |
| 19:19.46 | Spec | it's also helpful |
| 19:19.48 | thingfish | Celiun: compared to #fedora, this is the Wild West. |
| 19:19.48 | paulswm | I am not going to make any comparisons between dpkg's gender and the preferences of any inhabitants here, but it is HARD :P |
| 19:20.10 | greycat | !be paulswm barbie |
| 19:20.25 | Spec | oh wait |
| 19:20.28 | Spec | ~lart paulswm |
| 19:20.33 | paulswm | @fruitsmite greycat |
| 19:20.33 | Spec | hmm, that's still not it |
| 19:20.35 | Celiun | thingfish: Well, least you're less uptight |
| 19:20.49 | paulswm | @say !singlishsmite Spec |
| 19:20.50 | ravenbird | !singlishsmite Spec |
| 19:20.50 | dpkg | Spec: Say some more, lah! Like I care! |
| 19:20.57 | Celiun | not that I mind the guys in #fedora, just didn't like fedora much |
| 19:20.58 | Spec | what you say la? |
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| 19:21.12 | thingfish | Celiun: my feelings exactly. |
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| 19:21.19 | Spec | so, anyone here have any experience with FAI? |
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| 19:21.25 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 19:21.25 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 19:21.27 | Spec | or should i say, "Does anyone use FAI"? |
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| 19:21.33 | tarzeau | Spec: we use SAI (aka dphys) |
| 19:21.34 | Spec | bah, he beat me |
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| 19:21.38 | beardy | !anyone |
| 19:21.38 | dpkg | hmm... anyone is ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 19:21.51 | tarzeau | Spec: you want that for i386 or other stuff? |
| 19:22.04 | Spec | x86 |
| 19:22.09 | Spec | I use mondo/mindi now |
| 19:22.27 | Spec | I was wondering if FAI would be better or worse. |
| 19:22.34 | Celiun | god i hate my connection |
| 19:22.37 | Celiun | too slow |
| 19:22.40 | dbernar1_ | hey, why would ssh -X user@host not work(in the way that it logs in, but wont open x programs...) ? |
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| 19:22.48 | tarzeau | Spec: search dphys3 on google. |
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| 19:23.30 | PerfDave | dbernar1_: Is the remote SSH server configured to allow X forwarding? |
| 19:23.38 | Spec | dbernar1_: make sure /etc/ssh/sshd_config allows X forwarding |
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| 19:23.43 | Spec | damn you PerfDave |
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| 19:23.48 | dbernar1_ | thank you, I will look into that,. |
| 19:23.51 | PerfDave | dbernar1_: Use "ssh -vvv -X user@host" for debugging |
| 19:23.54 | paulswm | Spec: singlishsmite hardly ever says my favorite, which is "You all fart and no shit only." |
| 19:24.01 | Spec | hehe |
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| 19:24.13 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 19:24.13 | dpkg | <nvz> Pretty much lost interest in school after the 3rd of 4th year when I seen that they couldnt teach me anything anymore, and I began my own quest of knowlage |
| 19:24.20 | PerfDave | Spec: I am a highly-trained, elite Debian support machine ;) |
| 19:24.41 | tarzeau | PerfDave: what's the color of your lasersword? |
| 19:24.52 | dbernar1_ | knowlage:) |
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| 19:25.13 | Spec | hehe |
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| 19:25.22 | LoveDebian | Hello can i add users with upper and lower case on my Debian: linux server ? Becauset as it is default it says: adduser: Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured |
| 19:25.22 | LoveDebian | via the name_regex configuration variable. Use the `--force-badname' |
| 19:25.22 | LoveDebian | option to relax this check or reconfigure name_regex. |
| 19:25.28 | Pappa | best webmail system? |
| 19:25.32 | tarzeau | LoveDebian: no you can't |
| 19:25.34 | Spec | knowlage |
| 19:25.36 | Spec | that's a good quote |
| 19:25.43 | paulswm | Indeed. |
| 19:25.49 | PerfDave | tarzeau: PURPLE! |
| 19:26.02 | dbernar1_ | thanks, guys, the guy was using -x even though I told him specifically -X and dedicated the next sentence to explaining case sesitivity in *nix |
| 19:26.25 | Spec | hehe |
| 19:26.30 | kantai | Spec: you hit the nail on the head- Debian stopped packaging tg3 because it enables non-free firmware, so I got a GPL |
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| 19:26.48 | kantai | Spec: GPL'd driver from broadcom's website that automaked a module |
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| 19:27.00 | Spec | kantai: there's a 100% GPL driver for tg3? |
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| 19:27.15 | kantai | Spec: that's what broadcom said |
| 19:27.19 | Spec | what does it mean by "enables non-free firmware" though? |
| 19:27.26 | mendoza | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.31 | PerfDave | mendoza: #ubuntu |
| 19:27.32 | tarzeau | !ubuntu |
| 19:27.32 | dpkg | [ubuntu] ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879, or "Based on Debian" like Hollywood movies are "Based on a true story", or I'm not Debian but I play one on TV. |
| 19:27.39 | kantai | Spec: I'm not sure |
| 19:27.43 | LoveDebian | But when i use a add ascript username it works here you are -> svoge:$1$pRHwFdmw$WxJ52YkPxNbdBZroQRjY/1:12468:0:99999:7::12520: |
| 19:27.43 | LoveDebian | btest:$1$byHIsiWj$OXUvfiVa2l7ozaKT1dp7O0:12475:0:99999:7::12520: |
| 19:27.43 | LoveDebian | JaReK:$1$iCLcTkQL$FuwKELv6bTddTe4LZ1Kz41:12472:0:99999:7::12520: |
| 19:27.45 | tarzeau | mendoza: is this #debian or #debian or #debian ? |
| 19:28.02 | paulswm | Celiun: one of those questions I was mantioning, fro earlier today... <legba7> How do i find out what makes my woody beep and do not stop to beep till i create another beep. |
| 19:28.02 | kantai | Spec: I'll send you a link to the mailling list discussion |
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| 19:28.10 | Spec | thanks |
| 19:28.12 | hoderaz | when will sarge be out ? |
| 19:28.14 | Spec | I use tg3 often at work :p |
| 19:28.18 | PerfDave | hoderaz: /msg dpkg wwsr |
| 19:28.20 | tarzeau | hoderaz: tomorrow |
| 19:28.21 | PerfDave | hoderaz: Hopefully this weekend. |
| 19:28.23 | hoderaz | thks |
| 19:28.23 | mendoza | sorry, I thought that since this distyrib uses deb packages... |
| 19:28.26 | tarzeau | !topicsmite hoderaz |
| 19:28.27 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon hoderaz. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 19:28.31 | WhiteRabbit | hoderaz: june 6th or 9th or 30th or july even mybe |
| 19:28.37 | kantai | Spec: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-ia64@lists.debian.org/msg02074.html |
| 19:28.37 | paulswm | It's always jam tomorrow, never today. |
| 19:28.38 | PerfDave | mendoza: Go ask #knoppix, they use deb packages too |
| 19:28.51 | mendoza | very funny |
| 19:28.51 | dbernar1_ | I like that dpkg entry about ubuntu:) |
| 19:28.53 | WhiteRabbit | hoderaz: they still had 50 bugs as of may 30th |
| 19:29.02 | tarzeau | !topicbadger mendoza |
| 19:29.02 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that mendoza didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
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| 19:29.30 | dbernar1_ | haha, nice badger thing... |
| 19:29.36 | dbernar1_ | where does that originate? |
| 19:29.45 | paulswm | Oh, Lord, here we go |
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| 19:30.00 | Spec | So, I'm installing ubuntu via knoppix, and I was wondering how to configure.... |
| 19:30.00 | dbernar1_ | okok, sorry, paulswm . |
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| 19:30.21 | dbernar1_ | theyll learn... |
| 19:30.25 | curzde_ | i was wondering if anyonw knows where i can get gmake to install and why i cant simply apt-get install it |
| 19:30.26 | paulswm | dbernar1_: Oh, no, don't apologize, there's nothing wrong with your question :) |
| 19:30.54 | curzde_ | i tried to google it with minimal results ... no t |
| 19:30.56 | paulswm | @prise Spec |
| 19:30.57 | dbernar1_ | the badger origination one? |
| 19:31.02 | xelon | I'm going to install suspend2. but before I have to make a patch to the kernel. But the patch don't accept the kernel-source-2.6.8 that i download with apt. So I have to download 2.6.11.11 from kernel.org . is compiling and installing of kernel from kernel.org wrong to debian??? |
| 19:31.10 | paulswm | @say !prise Spec |
| 19:31.10 | ravenbird | !prise Spec |
| 19:31.11 | Spec | hah, your @prise does not work on me |
| 19:31.18 | Spec | err, nevermind :p |
| 19:31.31 | paulswm | :D |
| 19:31.31 | RichiH | paulswm: don't you think dpkg ignores you for a reason? |
| 19:31.37 | Spec | hehehe |
| 19:31.39 | Spec | :p |
| 19:31.42 | rue_mohr | reminder on how to get the currently installed version of a package? |
| 19:31.44 | paulswm | RichiH: I know why :) |
| 19:31.46 | curzde_ | does anyone know where i can get gmake download?? |
| 19:31.51 | Spec | it doesn't stop him :p |
| 19:32.01 | Supaplex | !tell curzde_ -about search |
| 19:32.10 | curzde_ | i did |
| 19:32.10 | Spec | dphys3 looks good, too |
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| 19:32.13 | curzde_ | it isnt there |
| 19:32.14 | Spec | who told me about it? :p |
| 19:32.16 | Celiun | google is your friend. |
| 19:32.20 | SPF | my mysqld won't start, the error log says : system locking is not in use |
| 19:32.30 | SPF | is that needed to start the server? |
| 19:32.32 | Paganist | Humm. is there a way to create a crontab not using the utility ? i want to create a crontab from a script... |
| 19:32.38 | paulswm | RichiH: I was updating the qotds and dpkg thought I was abusing her. |
| 19:32.40 | curzde_ | exit |
| 19:32.40 | greycat | Paganist: man 1 crontab |
| 19:32.42 | tarzeau | paulswm: yes there is |
| 19:32.49 | Celiun | SPF: That's the second weirdest error I've ever heard |
| 19:32.56 | Paganist | greycat: I did and -e won't help |
| 19:33.04 | dbernar1_ | public away! |
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| 19:33.05 | greycat | Paganist: then don't use -e. Duh. |
| 19:33.13 | Celiun | weirdest being window's "Error: There is no errors" |
| 19:33.14 | dbernar1_ | bah, sorry, I have funny ideas sometimes. |
| 19:33.15 | Paganist | greycat: -e will point to the editor, what other way is there ? |
| 19:33.23 | SPF | well, I cannot find any other unusual errors in the errorlog |
| 19:33.34 | greycat | Paganist: man 1 crontab |
| 19:33.35 | Paganist | -l and -r won't help either |
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| 19:33.43 | paulswm | tarzeau: the auestion about badgers you mean? |
| 19:33.45 | Paganist | greycat: i am in |
| 19:33.47 | jethro | Paganist: don't guess |
| 19:33.56 | tarzeau | paulswm: was meant for Paganist |
| 19:34.06 | Paganist | greycat: i always look at the man pages before asking and this man page won't help.... sorry |
| 19:34.13 | greycat | Paganist: wrong. |
| 19:34.17 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.17 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.17 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.19 | Spec | editing crontab without crontab? |
| 19:34.20 | RichiH | paulswm: oh, ok |
| 19:34.26 | jethro | Paganist: then you can't obviously read |
| 19:35.09 | SPF | so, how would I solve the problem? |
| 19:35.29 | tarzeau | SPF: you need patience, honey |
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| 19:35.41 | Paganist | hum |
| 19:35.54 | SPF | I don't know how things work around here |
| 19:35.57 | Paganist | ``-'' |
| 19:35.59 | Paganist | very clear |
| 19:36.04 | Paganist | Thanks guys.... |
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| 19:36.07 | Spec | it's a, uhhmm,... dash |
| 19:36.10 | paulswm | RichiH: So I'm on a 12 hour timeout I think. Anyway, hey, good to see you, hope all is well. |
| 19:36.21 | jethro | !pal Paganist |
| 19:37.01 | RichiH | paulswm: i just got held up by the police for trying to sell some cards i got as a present and did not want myself which will result in some legalese |
| 19:37.20 | RichiH | but it's not as if i would care, really |
| 19:37.28 | PeTeRB | RichiH: Sounds fun. |
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| 19:38.02 | jasoncohen | greycat, dvd::rip looks quite nice. I got the newest version from the marillat sid source |
| 19:38.04 | paulswm | RichiH: "held up" > "thrown in the slammer" > "shot" |
| 19:38.24 | jasoncohen | *marillat sid repo |
| 19:38.27 | TPC | I'm trying to make a custom install cd with debian sarge installer and a few other things on it |
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| 19:38.42 | TPC | the installation starts fine |
| 19:38.49 | TPC | but when it tries to detect the cdrom it says something like 'cd is not a debian install cd' |
| 19:39.05 | TPC | what do I need to do to make it think that its a real install cd? |
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| 19:39.54 | LoveDebian | Why i cant add users on my linux server with upper and lower cases ? |
| 19:40.00 | jasoncohen | btw, does apt-get check package signatures? |
| 19:40.09 | tarzeau | LoveDebian: don't ask |
| 19:40.11 | Spec | TPC: why would you want to make a custom install cd? |
| 19:40.17 | beardy | LoveDebian: Didn't you get answers before? Why would you want to.. |
| 19:40.23 | greycat | LoveDebian: for one thing, most MTAs will clobber your left-hand address portions (usernames) to lowercase. |
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| 19:40.38 | rpmx | hi |
| 19:40.41 | RichiH | PeTeRB: indeed :p |
| 19:40.48 | dbernar1_ | !hi rpmx |
| 19:40.48 | dpkg | Many greetings, rpmx, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 19:40.58 | RichiH | PeTeRB: my gf was kinda upset, but apart from the lost time, who cares? |
| 19:41.06 | Lee__ | I saw these retarded IP phones that had default usernames in uppercase |
| 19:41.08 | RichiH | apparently it#s forbidden and there is a fine |
| 19:41.11 | PeTeRB | RichiH: Heh. |
| 19:41.15 | mhall | LoveDebian: User names are not case sensitive in UN*X. |
| 19:41.17 | TPC | Spec, to put more things on it |
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| 19:41.19 | mhall | Lee__: ! |
| 19:41.23 | rpmx | how i can have ls -la --color permanently in /etc/bash.bas... |
| 19:41.25 | PeTeRB | RichiH: For selling stuff? :/ |
| 19:41.31 | TPC | Spec, multi-distro install cd |
| 19:41.40 | Lee__ | stay away from the Polycom 600s |
| 19:41.41 | Spec | TPC: ah |
| 19:41.41 | RichiH | paulswm: well, shooting people for selling stuff you got as a present would be kinda extreme |
| 19:41.46 | mhall | Lee__: We do stuff like that in config files for our software on purpose so people can't use it without changing the file. |
| 19:41.48 | RichiH | PeTeRB: i don't know why, either |
| 19:42.00 | Lee__ | mhall: never thought of it like that... |
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| 19:42.07 | Lee__ | !tardware |
| 19:42.07 | dpkg | it has been said that tardware is the sort of hardware which doesn't have drivers or spec released for it, and consequently doesn't work on any real OS. Notable examples include lexmark printers, winmodems, promise raid cards and cheap digital cameras. Tard if you make 'em, tard if you buy 'em. Ask me about <supported by>. |
| 19:42.08 | mhall | Lee__: It keeps them from complaining, "Wa...ah! It doesn't work!..." |
| 19:42.08 | RichiH | bf of gf's best friend is with the police, we will poke him about the issue |
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| 19:42.25 | Spec | TPC: I wonder if you could put a whole bunch of distro ISOs on a dvd, and have a program to load/install one of the distros at the users whim/choice |
| 19:42.28 | mhall | Lee__: Which I guarantee they will do, if we don't munge all the values first. |
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| 19:42.44 | Solet-deb_ | where is the config file for dh3client? |
| 19:43.08 | beardy | rpmx: Look in your /home/youruser/.bashrc uncomment what you want under the line '# enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases' to have that. |
| 19:43.15 | Lee__ | booting xen for the first time...wish me luck |
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| 19:43.21 | Modzilla | Hello |
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| 19:43.42 | ansong | does anyone know of the openoffice.org beta packaged for debian? |
| 19:43.53 | mousex | in what channel can I discuss apps for making movie DVDs? |
| 19:43.56 | Ryushin | Is there a way to encrypt all communication between a squid proxy and the client? |
| 19:44.00 | Spec | Lee__: xen is cool |
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| 19:44.13 | simonrvn | you people ever hear of google? how about you try it sometime? |
| 19:44.14 | mhall | Ryushin: in theory, https proxies are allowed |
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| 19:44.23 | Solet-deb_ | ansong: i run openoffice on sarge... i dont know if its a beta... but apt-get install openoffice should get you there :) |
| 19:44.25 | mhall | Ryushin: so are proxies requiring a user and pass |
| 19:44.30 | Spec | Ryushin: yes |
| 19:44.35 | Lee__ | Spec: the default kernel doesn't like the compaq smart array |
| 19:44.37 | greycat | Ryushin: ssh tunnel |
| 19:44.39 | mhall | Ryushin: the question is if squid implements these capabilities |
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| 19:44.54 | Spec | i've made an ssh tunnel through a squid proxy before, don't remember how |
| 19:44.57 | Spec | but it got around my school's firewalls |
| 19:44.58 | greycat | mhall: HTTP basic auth has nothing to do with over-the-wire encryption |
| 19:45.10 | jethro | Spec: CONNECT method |
| 19:45.20 | ansong | Solet-deb, thanks. i just want to try out some of the new features |
| 19:45.22 | Solet-deb_ | simonrvn: if everyone used google, and if google knew everything, this channel would not exist. |
| 19:45.25 | Spec | jethro: what? |
| 19:45.28 | mhall | greycat: right i know it does not but i wanted to mention it as a related additional useful feature |
| 19:45.30 | jethro | Spec: nevermind |
| 19:45.33 | tarzeau | Solet-deb_: yes it would |
| 19:45.35 | Spec | jethro: oki :p |
| 19:45.49 | mhall | greycat: if somebody is using https on the proxy, access control seems like a related topic they might care about |
| 19:45.50 | mrbuckets | Can anyone suggest another monitor/mgmt. service than nagios? |
| 19:45.55 | simonrvn | Solet-deb_: there would be half the traffic there is now\ |
| 19:46.12 | tarzeau | Solet-deb_: if everyone was rich, there would be no crime? |
| 19:46.16 | greycat | mhall: (yes, squid does allow authentication) |
| 19:46.21 | Ryushin | mhall: I have authentication working fine. I have a SSL enababled squid. I have my cert done. But it looks like the SSL requests or just to other SSL sites. I don't know how to encyrpt non ssl requests to squid and have it fetch the page. |
| 19:46.25 | simonrvn | so yes, it would. |
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| 19:46.35 | Solet-deb_ | tarzeau: the rich people are the biggest criminals of all so no not at all |
| 19:46.50 | mhall | Ryushin: hmm, by specifying on the client an https proxy URL |
| 19:46.52 | greycat | Ryushin: ssh tunnel to the box squid is on, then have it connect to squid on 127.0.0.1:3128 |
| 19:46.55 | tarzeau | Solet-deb_: let me rephrase, if money didn't exist. would there be less crime? |
| 19:46.56 | mousex | is there a program for Linux like AnalogX's SuperShredder? It writes random data on files before deleting them so they're unrecoverable . . . but then, again, there are journal system issues with ext3 |
| 19:46.58 | mhall | Ryushin: for HTTP requests |
| 19:46.58 | simonrvn | tar there would be, just all "white-collar" crime ;) |
| 19:47.17 | Solet-deb_ | not all crime deals with money |
| 19:47.20 | mhall | Ryushin: for example, one can specify an HTTP proxy be used for the FTP protocol requests |
| 19:47.22 | greycat | Ryushin: and have the browser connect to the ssh tunnel endpoint on 127.0.0.1 also. |
| 19:47.33 | mhall | Ryushin: sometimes i must do this at work as our proxies are horribly broken |
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| 19:47.48 | beardy | mousex: shred? |
| 19:48.05 | mhall | Solet-deb: need some kind of bug zapping noise |
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| 19:48.14 | initech | speaking of white collar crime, isn't Bernie Ebbers verdict coming up soon? |
| 19:48.19 | Solet-deb | mhall: wtf? |
| 19:48.27 | RichiH | paulswm: as a side note, you are not ignored by dpkg |
| 19:48.31 | Lee__ | mousex: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1k |
| 19:48.32 | mhall | Solet-deb: for eliminating the ghost |
| 19:48.35 | mousex | beardy: uh, duh . . . thanks |
| 19:48.39 | mhall | Solet-deb: nm |
| 19:48.44 | Lee__ | mousex: do that 20 times |
| 19:48.49 | Solet-deb | oh, i didnt do it tho... it passivly died :P |
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| 19:48.53 | mousex | Lee_: shred sound easier |
| 19:48.54 | mousex | :) |
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| 19:49.15 | ribnitz | evening |
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| 19:49.22 | Mr-R | mousex: wipe |
| 19:49.22 | Lee__ | mousex: yeah, I'll bet it's easier than one command |
| 19:49.22 | tarzeau | evening, ribnitz |
| 19:49.28 | Solet-deb | anyway... does anyone know where the dh3client config is? i cant remember what its called else i'd 'find' it |
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| 19:49.38 | ribnitz | tarzeau: any news about that party? |
| 19:49.39 | LoveDebian | greycat: do u know a Mta who will not clobber my left-hand address portions (usernames) to lowercase. ? |
| 19:49.47 | Ryushin | greycat: I'm trying to set up squid to be able to support all communications over 80 over 443. If I'm at a business that is doing egress filtering, I may not be able to get to port 22 and tunnel over ssh. |
| 19:49.51 | tarzeau | ribnitz: nope, i have no idea |
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| 19:49.57 | mtnman | solet-deb: the manpage lists the config file at the end. |
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| 19:50.01 | tarzeau | !u |
| 19:50.01 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 19:50.06 | Solet-deb | mtnman thanks |
| 19:50.17 | mousex | Mr-R: is wipe better than shred? |
| 19:50.22 | greycat | LoveDebian: I know sendmail and qmail both lowercaseify. Not sure about postfix and exim. |
| 19:50.23 | Ryushin | mhall: From the examples you gave, it doesn't encypt all communications to the squid server. Squid may not support this. I don't know. |
| 19:50.27 | mousex | Mr-R: it says it writes up to 3-4 layers |
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| 19:50.51 | LoveDebian | gradzac: thank you ! |
| 19:50.52 | Lee__ | mousex: I've found that a hammer and hot fire is the best for wiping a hard disk |
| 19:50.54 | Solet-deb | crap... its not called dh3client... hrm... |
| 19:50.56 | LoveDebian | i beg for a pardon |
| 19:51.00 | initech | mousex: best to simply soak the disk in sulfuric acid |
| 19:51.02 | LoveDebian | greycat: thank you ! |
| 19:51.06 | initech | :) |
| 19:51.10 | ribnitz | LoveDebian, greycat: I think when rewriting, exim folllows rules. If those dont specify to loWercase a username.. |
| 19:51.25 | mousex | initech, Lee_: I would agree . . . but I'm trying to get real here . . |
| 19:51.25 | LoveDebian | i use exim |
| 19:51.37 | beardy | Lee__: I think he only wants to "securely" (well) delete one file only, not the entire drive. |
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| 19:51.41 | Spec | cold fire works more effeciently, as opposed to hot fire ^.~ |
| 19:51.41 | Lee__ | mousex: than just use dd and stop searching |
| 19:51.47 | mousex | (but I really like the sulfuric acid) |
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| 19:52.07 | ribnitz | LoveDebian: me too. though I never cared about case sensitive mailbox names. |
| 19:52.28 | mousex | Lee_: why not wipe? dd and the random thing sound like too much work. Besides, I want to integrate it in a GUI . . . and maybe even replace the "rm" command |
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| 19:52.32 | ribnitz | LoveDebian: In a 6-people company thats not the kind of problems you run across |
| 19:52.33 | initech | you know, some NSA nerd probably could reconstruct a smashed / burned disk. Go with the acid, man. |
| 19:52.37 | Mr-R | mousex: i dont know. just did a apt-cache search for secure file deletion... |
| 19:52.43 | mtnman | solet-deb: man dhclient |
| 19:52.59 | tarzeau | initech: what data would ask for such a reconstruction? |
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| 19:53.07 | Lee__ | sure, wipe is good too. |
| 19:53.12 | tarzeau | initech: or information, that couldn't be squeezed out of a human, more easily? |
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| 19:53.19 | initech | tarzeau: come again? |
| 19:53.22 | mousex | initech, ;) |
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| 19:53.43 | Solet-deb | mtnman: i found it its dhclient3 :P |
| 19:53.48 | tarzeau | initech: probably such information would be useless after the time of recustriction... |
| 19:53.53 | mousex | gee, I'm talking about everyday deleted porn to be unrecoverable from my parents, gee! :) |
| 19:53.57 | mousex | I dont need acid for taht |
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| 19:54.00 | ribnitz | tarzeau: social engineering is often much cheaper, and hence more widely used.. |
| 19:54.07 | tarzeau | initech: besides, what if it was encrypted? |
| 19:54.19 | tarzeau | ribnitz: wasn't that exactly what i said? |
| 19:54.51 | madclicker | anyone on t1 connection? |
| 19:55.02 | mousex | madclicker: I wish I were . . . |
| 19:55.11 | mtnman | solet-deb: dhclient3 is symlinked to dhclient :) |
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| 19:55.37 | simonrvn | sword? |
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| 19:55.39 | ribnitz | mousex: reformat, with a different filesystem (jfs has been designed with that in mind). Also, if you are paranoid, create other files (squid cache) in its place. And then you shouldnt be seeing this pr0n. It corrups, ya know. |
| 19:55.43 | tarzeau | simonrvn: LIGHT sword |
| 19:55.45 | madclicker | :) |
| 19:55.56 | Draconicus | I love the look and feel of GNOME, and I don't want to change that, but GNOME, as a window manager (display manager?), has some flaws in comparison to others. Said flaws don't bother me too much, but ridding myself of them could be beneficial. Any suggestions? |
| 19:56.11 | tarzeau | Draconicus: ack |
| 19:56.13 | greycat | Draconicus: take it up with a GNOME channel. |
| 19:56.22 | Solet-deb | mtnman: i'm only seeing /etc/dhclient.conf and thats just an example conf :( |
| 19:56.26 | mousex | ribnitz: the porn is an example; I mean, come on, what Linux geek really wastes time watching porn?? [ . . . ] |
| 19:56.36 | mousex | (don't raise your hands) |
| 19:56.37 | Draconicus | I doubt a GNOME channel could help with suggesting a different manager that does the same visually. :P |
| 19:56.38 | stouset | Draconicus: What are the problems? |
| 19:56.44 | stouset | Draconicus: Try XFCE. |
| 19:56.52 | tarzeau | Draconicus: windowmaker |
| 19:56.56 | stouset | Draconicus: It uses GTK, and some consider it "GNOME-lite" |
| 19:56.57 | tarzeau | Draconicus: http://livecd.gnustep.org/ |
| 19:56.58 | Draconicus | Just a bit of resource intensiveness, especially with nautilus. |
| 19:57.01 | Solet-deb | Draconicus: but they may be able to help with bugs :P |
| 19:57.17 | ribnitz | mousex: the owerwrite with other filesystem works quite well. |
| 19:57.19 | tarzeau | stouset: like if you take something very bad, remove half of it. it's only half that bad.... |
| 19:57.20 | Draconicus | It's not so much bugs as it is the hunger. |
| 19:57.26 | mousex | tarzeau, I love the gnustep live CD, too, Draconicus; it's all so lite |
| 19:57.30 | stouset | tarzeau: Bah, GNOME isn't bad. |
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| 19:57.35 | mousex | ribnitz: thanks |
| 19:57.48 | Draconicus | It's not bad. It's just a little greedy in some things. |
| 19:57.48 | ribnitz | Draconicus: XFCE uses the same lkibs, at least some of the same libs. |
| 19:57.54 | PeTeRB | mousex: Have a look at lesbian.mine.nu ;) |
| 19:57.57 | tarzeau | stouset: don't let you trick of the bad forces! |
| 19:58.03 | Draconicus | Alternatively, is there a replacement for nautilus? |
| 19:58.10 | tarzeau | Draconicus: mc |
| 19:58.17 | mousex | PeTeRB: hey, don't promote inmoral values here :) |
| 19:58.21 | stouset | Que? |
| 19:58.39 | Modzilla | GAY Gay and Yoi |
| 19:58.40 | PeTeRB | mousex: You asked for it. |
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| 19:58.55 | simas | hi |
| 19:58.58 | ribnitz | mousex: next sunday, I guess the swiss will say no to legalizing same-sex unions. |
| 19:59.04 | mousex | PeTeRB: no; I asked for a way to shred such values off my hard disk |
| 19:59.11 | tarzeau | ribnitz: and what about schengen/dublin? |
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| 19:59.28 | tarzeau | ribnitz: what will you say about legalizing same-sex unions? |
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| 19:59.30 | mircuserx | hello, I am new to debian/linux. I want to install evolution (testing) but I get error messages (packages have unmet dependencies). I already searched the web but could not find a solution. Anybody here can help me? |
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| 19:59.40 | mousex | ribnitz: I'm not aware of any swiss issues |
| 19:59.43 | tarzeau | mircuserx: that means you can't. |
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| 19:59.49 | tarzeau | mircuserx: nobody can help you, but yourself |
| 19:59.58 | ribnitz | tarzeau: not sure, could be a no, but will probably be a yes. however, with france and netherlands vote before that could influcence. |
| 19:59.59 | tarzeau | mircuserx: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/ |
| 20:00.12 | tarzeau | mircuserx: some software is beyond fixability |
| 20:00.15 | sshack | Okay, really stupid question. But how do I need to modify my lilo configuration to get initrd kernel-images to work? I haven't messed with lilo in years. |
| 20:00.16 | mousex | mircuserx: are you using apt-get? |
| 20:00.28 | mircuserx | yes |
| 20:00.30 | PeTeRB | sshack: man lilo |
| 20:00.31 | simas | how to remove an interface added by ifconfig? |
| 20:00.38 | ribnitz | tarzeau: whats your bet on next sundays vote? |
| 20:00.43 | tarzeau | simas: ifconfig interface down |
| 20:00.47 | tarzeau | simas: man 5 interfaces |
| 20:00.47 | eranj | should Kopete have problems connecting Icq? it says rate limit exceeded or something |
| 20:00.52 | tarzeau | ribnitz: i don't bet |
| 20:00.56 | simas | yeah, but how to remove it completely |
| 20:00.59 | sshack | petemc_: I've done that, yes. done initrd=/initrd.img. It boots, then hangs using the initrd. |
| 20:01.19 | ribnitz | tarzeau: call it prediction then. As you know, they dont ask me. |
| 20:01.22 | simas | there's no such interface in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:01.31 | tarzeau | ribnitz: you can't vote? |
| 20:01.57 | ribnitz | tarzeau: I am not swiss, hence I cant vote in switzerland. |
| 20:02.00 | mousex | PeTeRB: I thought you were going in a totally different direction with Lesbian GNU/Linux!!! pretty cool |
| 20:02.17 | PeTeRB | mousex: :) |
| 20:02.27 | tarzeau | ribnitz: i can't vote either |
| 20:02.28 | ribnitz | tarzeau: I think I told you i was a poor immigrant. |
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| 20:02.39 | tarzeau | ribnitz: i really don't remember |
| 20:02.45 | tarzeau | _cow: moo |
| 20:02.55 | Lee__ | is it possible to build a kernel incrementally? Like if I compile it, and notice a driver is missing, can I update the config and just make it again with out 'make clean'? |
| 20:03.00 | tarzeau | ribnitz: you looked so authentic like a swiss |
| 20:03.17 | mousex | anyone know how to make movie-DVDs in Debian? dvdauthor is not exactly user friendly |
| 20:03.22 | tarzeau | Lee__: linux, mach or freebsd? |
| 20:03.27 | ribnitz | tarzeau: I have lived here all my life. Still I dont do military service or voting. |
| 20:03.31 | simas | so no suggestions? |
| 20:03.33 | tarzeau | mousex: /msg dpkg repeat |
| 20:03.42 | Lee__ | tarzeau: sorry, Linux |
| 20:03.44 | tarzeau | ribnitz: so have i |
| 20:04.16 | mousex | !congratulate tarzeau |
| 20:04.17 | dpkg | Woohoo tarzeau, you did it! |
| 20:04.22 | Solet-deb | how do i set the name of the 'domain' my linux machine is on? i didnt set it correctly durring install |
| 20:04.35 | mousex | Solet-deb: /etc/hostname |
| 20:04.48 | simas | and /etc/hosts |
| 20:04.49 | simas | :) |
| 20:04.53 | mircuserx | tarzeau: it seems the link you gave me describes things about making a new package but I would like to use the existing package |
| 20:04.54 | tarzeau | and telinit q |
| 20:04.54 | ribnitz | tarzeau: Then you know what I am talking asbout. Personally I dont expect no/no, still I dont expect the swiss to be liberal enough for the same-sex-partnership. |
| 20:05.06 | giupy | Solet-deb, i have "debian" as name :) |
| 20:05.08 | tarzeau | mircuserx: but the existing one is broken |
| 20:05.14 | Solet-deb | mousex: thats the computer name, i'm talking about the networks name |
| 20:05.21 | mousex | Solet-deb: you're not talking about Windows domains, right? |
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| 20:05.43 | Solet-deb | i dont know what windows domains are... |
| 20:05.44 | mousex | Solet-deb: dpkg-reconfigure base-config |
| 20:05.49 | tarzeau | giupy: i've seen worse hostnames |
| 20:06.16 | Spec | tarzeau, giupy: like what, "fedora"? |
| 20:06.26 | eranj | Is there any edonkey with bittorrent client which can be controlled over http? |
| 20:06.37 | tarzeau | Spec: like "HOSTNAME" or "somename.com" |
| 20:06.54 | Spec | hehe, hostname is an awesome hostname |
| 20:07.04 | mousex | Spec: it sure is |
| 20:07.12 | r_marvin | neah, 'localhost' is awesomer :P |
| 20:07.12 | giupy | i have ever used debian for my hostname |
| 20:07.19 | Spec | for some reason my laptop's hostname is genspec though... *innocent* |
| 20:07.22 | Lee__ | woo hoo! xen is booted on sarge! |
| 20:07.32 | Spec | but can you use it, Lee__? |
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| 20:07.43 | Lee__ | let's see...I'm just happy it booted :) |
| 20:08.00 | Lee__ | I got 4 UML machines working last week |
| 20:08.15 | mousex | "quantumIP" "HiperLoco" "dHw0ck999" and "mouSeX" are my usual hostnames . . . depending on what network I connect to |
| 20:08.20 | Solet | dpkg-recongigure: command not found when i 'dpkg-reconfigure base-config' |
| 20:08.39 | Spec | nfs_kernel_server assumes you have nfs support in your kernel? |
| 20:08.46 | greycat | Solet: misspelled. |
| 20:08.47 | mousex | Solet: are you super user? |
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| 20:09.01 | Solet | mousex i'm root atm |
| 20:09.05 | ribnitz | Anyone here uses evms and can tell me if it supports win xp (ntfs) partiotion types, and an install will not break my dual boot? |
| 20:09.06 | Lee__ | Spec: probably. sounds like it would. |
| 20:09.10 | scar_ | is anyone into psybnc? I am connected to the server correctly, but everytime I close my client psybnc disconnects from the server I want to stay on aswell |
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| 20:09.32 | Spec | what is evms? |
| 20:09.34 | mousex | Solet: you know what, just install etherconf . . . it's a lot easier |
| 20:09.40 | ribnitz | Spec: evms.sf.net |
| 20:09.40 | Solet | mousex: it was a typo :( |
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| 20:09.50 | Solet | but now when i run it it just returns to next line doing nothing... |
| 20:09.54 | ribnitz | Spec: a unified approach to storage management. |
| 20:09.57 | Spec | ah |
| 20:10.15 | MidgetSpy | hey guys, am I correct in assuming that in order to be able to mount /somedir I have to set up that dir's mount info in /etc/fstab? |
| 20:10.19 | deego | If i get a new, larger hd, and partition it, how do i install all debian packages with the exact same versions and the exact same config files (as on an older, smaller, failing hd)? simply cp -a /usr to /usr .. and so forth ? what about devices? and /proc? |
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| 20:10.27 | Spec | MidgetSpy: kinda |
| 20:10.27 | mousex | ribnitz: I gave up on NTFS long ago and just converted the entire winxp partition to fat32 |
| 20:10.36 | Solet | all i'm needing to change is the domain, nothing else... |
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| 20:10.43 | mousex | Solet: ok |
| 20:10.57 | Spec | MidgetSpy: you could do "mount /dev/blah /somefolder", or have an entry in /etc/fstab and be able to do: mount /somefolder |
| 20:10.58 | giupy | MidgetSpy, you can mount the device in the dir you want without edit fstab |
| 20:11.09 | ribnitz | mousex: all I need is that /dev/hda1 will show up as such to a booted windows. |
| 20:11.11 | beardy | MidgetSpy: Not if you're only going to mount something one time. |
| 20:11.24 | MidgetSpy | well, currently I do mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /blah. I'd rather just do mount /blah though |
| 20:11.33 | mousex | ribnitz: what do you mean? |
| 20:11.43 | MidgetSpy | but the thing is I don't want it mounted when the system boots up, and if I put it in /etc/fstab it will do that, won't it? |
| 20:11.54 | furrywolf | midget: noauto |
| 20:11.57 | Spec | noauto |
| 20:11.58 | mousex | MIdgetSpy: put "noauto" in the options\ |
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| 20:12.22 | mousex | ribnitz: what's on hda1, win or linux? |
| 20:12.39 | MidgetSpy | nothing, it's just an empty single partition |
| 20:12.43 | Solet | is there a way i can display the current 'domain' that is set? |
| 20:12.47 | MidgetSpy | oh, sorry that wasn't for me... lol |
| 20:12.48 | ribnitz | mousex: First primary partition on first disk still needs to show up as such, even if its just a big gobble-woblble under linux. |
| 20:12.49 | Spec | man mount and look under "-o" options, there's a bunch of them |
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| 20:13.13 | Spec | MidgetSpy: ^^ |
| 20:13.30 | mousex | ribnitz: hang on . . what are you trying to accomplish, exactly? |
| 20:14.05 | mousex | sorry, gotto go . . . :( |
| 20:14.16 | Spec | that was sudden. |
| 20:14.24 | ribnitz | mousex: convert all my linux stuff to using evms, and break the windows stuff and boot as little as possible (also no root evms) |
| 20:14.33 | PeTeRB | Spec: hostname and dnsdomainname |
| 20:14.36 | PeTeRB | Oops |
| 20:14.40 | PeTeRB | Solet:hostname and dnsdomainname |
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| 20:15.13 | Spec | riot! |
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| 20:15.21 | riot | Hi.. Spec? |
| 20:15.29 | Spec | that had nothing to do with you, i was trying to incite a riot. |
| 20:15.36 | riot | rofl :) |
| 20:15.50 | riot | good idea. |
| 20:15.56 | Spec | ouch |
| 20:16.01 | PeTeRB | Spec: Is that a good enough starter? |
| 20:16.07 | Spec | i've been reading documentation for 45+minutes, i'm gonna go take a break |
| 20:16.13 | MidgetSpy | Spec: I see... so when I mount it with mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /blah, what is the equivalent option in fstab - defaults? |
| 20:16.14 | riot | how can i setup gdm, so ordinary users (who are reluctant to type sudo halt) can shutdown the box? |
| 20:16.18 | Mr-R | ribnitz: 1. evms has nothing to do with ntfs-access. 2. ntfs read-only is no problem with linux. 3. if you have to get R/W-access to your ntfs-partition try captive (with very poor performance) |
| 20:16.30 | Spec | MidgetSpy: you want defaults, noauto |
| 20:16.34 | Spec | MidgetSpy: if you don't want it to mount on boot up |
| 20:16.45 | Solet | PeTeRB: can dnsdomainname be used to change its value? |
| 20:16.46 | MidgetSpy | Spec: yes, I meant aside from noauto :0) |
| 20:16.52 | ilbahr | anyone know about a good program where i can put comments in pdf file like the proffessional ADOBE ver |
| 20:16.55 | MidgetSpy | Spec: thanks |
| 20:16.59 | PeTeRB | Solet: Read man page |
| 20:17.14 | ribnitz | Mr-R: I am not even talking about that. I was wondering if I could convert my linux storage to evms without afecting the windows storage too much. |
| 20:17.17 | Solet | i am.... |
| 20:17.18 | St0n3-C0l | anyone with i810 video card? |
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| 20:17.41 | Spec | MidgetSpy: your fstab entry will look like: /dev/hdb1 /blah ext2 defaults, noauto 0 0 |
| 20:17.49 | Spec | MidgetSpy: although i'm not sure if you can put "defaults, noauto" together |
| 20:17.58 | runix__ | hey :) what can I use to compare 2 dirs recursively and find what files exist in one and not in the other? |
| 20:18.09 | MidgetSpy | Spec: for the last 2 columns, is 0 0 sufficient? I read about them in man fstab but I'm still not clear on their purpose |
| 20:18.12 | greycat | runix__: rsync |
| 20:18.15 | Spec | yeah |
| 20:18.27 | runix__ | greycat: I don't want to sincronize them, just compare |
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| 20:19.08 | ribnitz | Mr-R: boot order. |
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| 20:19.25 | Spec | MidgetSpy: first '0' refers to the need of the partition being 'dumped' or not |
| 20:19.31 | Mr-R | ribnitz: hmm. which bootloader? |
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| 20:19.37 | Spec | MidgetSpy: since i don't know what it means to dump a partition, i'd say leave it at 0 :) |
| 20:20.08 | MidgetSpy | Spec: haha, ok same reasoning I had ;-P |
| 20:20.09 | Spec | MidgetSpy: the second '0' is the order fsck checks your file system if the system wasn't shut down properly, this should probably be a 2 actually |
| 20:20.14 | ribnitz | Mr-R: grub |
| 20:20.22 | Spec | MidgetSpy: maybe a 0, if you don't want fsck to check it, if the system was shut down improperly |
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| 20:21.05 | Spec | wat....dump might be important for ext2 partitions |
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| 20:21.09 | Mr-R | ribnitz: should not affect the windows-partition. but i used evms only a year ago... |
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| 20:22.07 | Spec | MidgetSpy: okay, i now understand what dump is, let it be 0 ^.^ |
| 20:22.12 | baffle | I recently installed a new Sarge machine, but installed with 2.4 instead of 2.6. Now I'm upgrading by installing kernel-image-2.6, but it hangs on boot during initrd, seemingly due to a problem with /dev due to devfs/udev. I really have no idea how to fix it, does anyone have any hints? Not found anything by Googling yet, but I've seen the problem on a lot of machines. (That's why I ususally just roll my own..) |
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| 20:23.18 | skaught | baffle: What's the exact error message? (if any) |
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| 20:24.33 | Spec | eww, bootp's config file is ugly as hell |
| 20:24.41 | baffle | skaught: pivot_root: no such file or directory + /dev/console: no such file. I find it mentioned other places as well, but no solution. |
| 20:24.49 | ribnitz | Spec: use dhcp... |
| 20:24.54 | Spec | i do use dhcp |
| 20:25.07 | Spec | but that doesn't stop bootp's config file being ugly as hell |
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| 20:26.54 | skaught | baffle: Were you planning to use udev on this system? |
| 20:27.48 | ilbahr | i do a lot of review work most of the material is in pdf format anyone know about a program that is similar to ADOBE in adding comments to pdf files |
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| 20:29.35 | ding | I've been an amateur linux user for a few years now, but I want to get some formal knowlege. If I wanted to buy a book that would explain linux and the way debian works, what should I get ? |
| 20:29.56 | ribnitz | ding: at what level? |
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| 20:30.15 | PerfDave | ding: If you want to know how Debian works, you're better off looking at the documentation on http://www.debian.org/ |
| 20:30.32 | ribnitz | ding: there are literally zillions of books oun there. A printed debian usrs guide would be a start... |
| 20:30.43 | baffle | skaught: Planning? Well, after the first few boots, and rebuilds of the initrdimage, I figured it couldn't find /dev-entries. I then installed udev on the system, to no avail. Building of the initrd is done under 2.4. |
| 20:31.01 | ribnitz | ding: And then there's debian.org/devel... :) |
| 20:31.15 | Lee__ | ding: essential system administration, 3rd edition, o'reilly press |
| 20:31.26 | Spec | and then there's idling on this channel and reading problems/solutions |
| 20:31.35 | Lee__ | don't forget dpkg |
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| 20:33.00 | skaught | baffle: Hmm. I've seen this before on machines also, but I'm not familiar enough with how debian handles udev etc. Perhaps you should check out the debian udev policy, it might have some insight |
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| 20:33.57 | ribnitz | skaught: that problem is caused by some discrepacy between two modules, I think modultils, or somesuch. |
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| 20:34.17 | cuse | Is there any resource for OpenOffice 2.0 Beta Debian packages? |
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| 20:34.32 | Ich | cuse: did you check contrib? |
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| 20:34.54 | Spec | If your ethernet doesn't work, just suck on the ethernet cable until the data starts flowing, kinda like siphoning gas out of an automobile. |
| 20:35.03 | cuse | Ich: ? |
| 20:35.13 | K_Dallas | cuse: i downloaded it from their site and followed what i found googling to install it on sarge |
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| 20:35.31 | beardy | Spec: Make sure the cable aren't bent to much too, or that you're standing on it. |
| 20:35.43 | cuse | K_Dallas: but not as Debian packages, right? |
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| 20:35.55 | K_Dallas | it was a tarball or an installer no deb |
| 20:35.58 | baffle | skaught: Guess I'll put busybox in the initrd and retry. |
| 20:36.12 | K_Dallas | i only had to change something, remove some java copyright stuff or so |
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| 20:36.41 | Spec | beardy: and if it still doesn't work -- suck harder |
| 20:36.44 | K_Dallas | cuse, google for openoffice beta debian |
| 20:36.44 | Spec | :p |
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| 20:37.03 | cuse | K_Dallas: I did, thats why im here, because i did not find anything useful |
| 20:37.10 | K_Dallas | hmm! |
| 20:37.22 | Ich | cuse: you may just have to download and build, or download and install the package |
| 20:37.33 | paulswm | RichiH: Was afk, thanks, the dpkg timeout must have expired |
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| 20:38.10 | K_Dallas | cuse this is one link: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/299315 |
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| 20:38.37 | janjan | hi guys may I ask some about cdrecord? |
| 20:38.43 | skaught | baffle: Some of your device names (such as root device) may have changed, double check your bootloader perhaps. Also, are you using SATA? |
| 20:38.53 | ribnitz | janjan: go ahead. |
| 20:38.54 | Ich | !tell janjan about ask-to-ask |
| 20:38.59 | simonrvn | just ask... |
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| 20:39.04 | K_Dallas | :) |
| 20:39.07 | ribnitz | Is there a way I can make rsync timestamp output? |
| 20:39.22 | jethro | !sicco |
| 20:39.22 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about research and cooperation in asking for help. |
| 20:39.40 | cuse | K_Dallas: right, thats what i saw as not useful |
| 20:39.42 | janjan | ok, ok, cdrecord -scanbus says can't open SCSI driver, I'm sure my device reads cds but so far I can't burn any |
| 20:39.58 | K_Dallas | well i followed the instruction and it worked almost perfectly ;) |
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| 20:40.10 | skaught | janjan: I'm assuming you have an ATAPI CD-R device right? |
| 20:40.14 | ribnitz | janjan: cdrecord -dev=ATA: -scanbus.. |
| 20:40.23 | janjan | skaught:yes |
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| 20:41.03 | skaught | janjan: Then try cdrecord dev=ATAPI: (or ATA:) -scanbus |
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| 20:41.21 | ribnitz | skaught: what did I say? ;) |
| 20:41.42 | janjan | ok homies ready to roll, thanks |
| 20:41.51 | skaught | ribnitz: Well, if he's copying and pasting, dev doesn't have a - ;) |
| 20:42.16 | ribnitz | skaught: ok. |
| 20:42.22 | janjan | just dev I guess |
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| 20:42.32 | FUF | they both work |
| 20:42.36 | FUF | with or without the '-' |
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| 20:42.40 | FUF | (fyi) |
| 20:42.46 | ribnitz | skaught: while at it, is it normal that ide-scsi no longer works in 2.6.11? ;) |
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| 20:42.48 | skaught | Well there you go :) |
| 20:43.05 | janjan | what's your favourite command line mp3 cd ripping? |
| 20:43.12 | jethro | janjan: jack |
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| 20:43.18 | K_Dallas | !tell jethro about favorite |
| 20:43.24 | ribnitz | janjan: abcde. |
| 20:43.25 | jethro | janjan: wait jack ain't that much commandline |
| 20:43.26 | K_Dallas | :) there should be something like that ;) |
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| 20:43.36 | POVaddct | janjan: abcde |
| 20:43.54 | janjan | I'm looking just command line, abcde sounds like a joke :-)) |
| 20:44.04 | jethro | !tell janjan -about search |
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| 20:44.07 | K_Dallas | janjan abcde is not a j |
| 20:44.25 | K_Dallas | jethro, sf.net is where i usually search for stuff like that |
| 20:44.30 | janjan | K_Dallas: sorry aobut that |
| 20:44.32 | skaught | ribnitz: Shucks, I haven't used ide-scsi since 2.4. I would say it's "normal" for CD devices to have some level of b0rkedness between cdrtools and the kernel :) |
| 20:44.44 | jethro | K_Dallas: that's stupid |
| 20:44.44 | K_Dallas | np :) i had the same impression the first time |
| 20:45.16 | ribnitz | skaught: meaning waining endlessly in xcdroast. |
| 20:45.16 | K_Dallas | what is stupid? |
| 20:45.23 | jethro | K_Dallas: what you just told me |
| 20:45.30 | K_Dallas | ok :) |
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| 20:46.03 | jethro | K_Dallas: search available packages, THEN search somewhere else |
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| 20:46.27 | uglyguy | alo?? |
| 20:46.30 | Spec | jethro: what's the average speed of an african swallow? |
| 20:46.43 | liable | is it laden |
| 20:46.44 | Spec | oh, ON-topic, not off-topic; sorry. |
| 20:46.56 | uglyguy | i am just newcome at debian and don't know how to print!! |
| 20:46.59 | jethro | Spec: are you contesting with K_Dallas ? |
| 20:47.20 | uglyguy | what do i do for printing? |
| 20:47.22 | Spec | what was his question? |
| 20:47.25 | janjan | uglyguy:lp file.to.print |
| 20:47.37 | jethro | Spec: sorry I used a wrong word |
| 20:47.45 | jethro | Spec: nevermind anyway |
| 20:47.47 | Spec | hehe |
| 20:47.54 | uglyguy | i´m trying it janjan |
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| 20:48.12 | janjan | uglyguy: try also man lp |
| 20:48.39 | janjan | uglyguy: is stuff coming out from printer? |
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| 20:48.57 | janjan | uglyguy: paper or green jelly? |
| 20:49.29 | janjan | he quit, means it works and he's ok with irc... |
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| 20:50.19 | uglyguy | i'm afraid that lp my.file doesn't works |
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| 20:50.38 | uglyguy | lp, command not found |
| 20:50.46 | uglyguy | funny thing |
| 20:50.48 | mcquaid | hello, i'm trying to make my own packages and want to examine an existing deb src pkg |
| 20:50.49 | jethro | uglyguy: look for a printing howto |
| 20:50.59 | jethro | mcquaid: /msg dpkg nm |
| 20:51.05 | uglyguy | where can i find one? |
| 20:51.21 | mcquaid | i'd rather not enable src's in my sources.list but i can't seem to find deb src files off debian's ftp |
| 20:51.23 | jethro | uglyguy: http://www.google.com |
| 20:51.28 | uglyguy | lol |
| 20:51.29 | mcquaid | where are they actually located |
| 20:51.30 | uglyguy | okok |
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| 20:51.52 | jethro | mcquaid: you can get them from pdo |
| 20:51.58 | Draconicus | mc is fun, but I was hoping for something more graphical. I can't launch images and such through it. Any other suggestions? |
| 20:52.00 | jethro | mcquaid: /msg dpkg pdo |
| 20:52.17 | uglyguy | just one more question: i think i need a driver for my epson stylus color to work in debian |
| 20:52.34 | uglyguy | where do i get it? |
| 20:52.43 | jethro | uglyguy: that's all explained in the howtos |
| 20:53.02 | gvandora | I'm trying to install the linux-wlan-ng drivers on debian via the packages. I've got the packages installed however I need to complile the modules |
| 20:53.08 | uglyguy | aaaaaaaaallrite, i'll go to the howtos then |
| 20:53.13 | uglyguy | thank u very muuuch |
| 20:53.16 | gvandora | I believe i need to download my kernel source. can anyone hel? |
| 20:53.17 | Spec[nothere] | !u |
| 20:53.17 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 20:53.30 | ribnitz | uglyguy: linuxprinting.org, I guess. |
| 20:53.35 | jethro | uglyguy: look for debian specific documentation though. |
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| 20:53.44 | ribnitz | uglyguy: cups supports quite a lot. |
| 20:53.49 | uglyguy | there i'm goint, to debian.org |
| 20:54.38 | mcquaid | jethro, searching there i see the original src pkg and the diff but i don't see the ready made debian src file |
| 20:55.27 | mcquaid | what i meant to say i see the src tar.gz file but dont a .deb src file |
| 20:55.33 | Draconicus | Ehem... Graphical alternatives to nautilus? |
| 20:55.35 | jethro | mcquaid: then I guess you either have to use apt-get source, or get both the original sources, and the diff, then apply |
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| 20:56.33 | Draconicus | Well... oh well. :P |
| 20:56.52 | jethro | !tell Draconicus -about search |
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| 20:57.09 | mcquaid | Draconicus, there isn't much, well that's if u want something to intergrate nice with gnome |
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| 20:57.27 | mcquaid | xfce is working on a new file browser that should intergrate nicely |
| 20:57.46 | Draconicus | Eh, I'm searching. |
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| 20:58.36 | simonrvn | mcquaid: should be out with 4.3 or such? |
| 20:58.43 | simonrvn | or 4.4, rather |
| 20:58.46 | mcquaid | i've wasted hours looking for a alt to nautilus thats gtk2 |
| 20:58.53 | mcquaid | ya i believe 4.4 is their target |
| 20:59.02 | simonrvn | ok. danke |
| 20:59.35 | ribnitz | mcquaid: the xfce file browser is great. :) |
| 20:59.43 | jasoncohen | what's the program called that creates the needed directories/config files in order to create a deb package? |
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| 21:00.15 | mcquaid | ribnitz, the current one? last time i used it i didn't like it |
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| 21:00.29 | mcquaid | seemed very unpolished |
| 21:00.33 | ribnitz | mcquaid: XFCE4, 4.3.2 I think. |
| 21:00.38 | Celiun | quick question, how do you activate the gnome interface? |
| 21:00.48 | ribnitz | though its different from say nautilus. |
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| 21:01.16 | mcquaid | ah haven't tried 4.3 yet, i might give it a try, i was waiting for 4.4 |
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| 21:02.21 | ribnitz | mcquaid: sorry, 4.2.0, as of january 05 |
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| 21:02.37 | ribnitz | at least thats what the helpfile says. |
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| 21:02.58 | lrojas | hi all |
| 21:03.18 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: dh-make ? |
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| 21:03.56 | jasoncohen | yeah, tha'ts it |
| 21:04.04 | tarzeau | Celiun: startx ? |
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| 21:04.12 | tarzeau | Celiun: if you manage to install it |
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| 21:05.00 | Alexandru1 | hello you debian users |
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| 21:05.19 | mcquaid | ribnitz, ya i was interested in this one http://thunar.xfce.org/wiki/ |
| 21:05.24 | baffle | skaught: Nopes, scsi. Megaraid. |
| 21:05.28 | mcquaid | there are screens on there somewhere but i can't find them right now |
| 21:05.37 | mcquaid | it's alternative to xffm |
| 21:05.41 | mcquaid | it's an |
| 21:06.03 | skaught | baffle: And your GRUB kernel line has the appropriate root device specified? |
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| 21:06.14 | Celiun | tarzeau: apparently, I didn't, thanks anyways, you made me realise the problem |
| 21:06.20 | ribnitz | mcquaid: I have apes at home. I take the easiest and most logical I find. |
| 21:06.29 | ribnitz | (short of a mac) |
| 21:06.35 | jamie_ | hey can someone please tell me when i'm trying ./configure it says sdl 1.0.1 not installed but i can't find it to install it |
| 21:06.57 | mcquaid | apes? |
| 21:07.13 | gvandora | I'm trying to install the linux-wlan-ng drivers on debian via the packages. I've got the packages installed however I need to complile the modules. |
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| 21:07.18 | beardy | jamie_: configure what? |
| 21:07.21 | PerfDave | jamie_: What are you trying to ./configure ? |
| 21:07.28 | jamie_ | it's a game i downloaded |
| 21:07.28 | PerfDave | gvandora: Is it installed with module-assistant? |
| 21:07.34 | mcquaid | jamie you probably need sdl dev files |
| 21:07.39 | ribnitz | mcquaid: yes, apes. My burned in life is teaching computing to apes. |
| 21:07.44 | PerfDave | jamie_: What game? |
| 21:07.45 | gvandora | mPerfDave: I don't know what that is. How would I check |
| 21:07.55 | mcquaid | heh |
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| 21:08.04 | jamie_ | but they're not in the main repositories i guess? the game is . .. um ceferino |
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| 21:08.11 | PerfDave | gvandora: apt-get install module-assistant; m-a list |
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| 21:08.51 | ribnitz | mcquaid: otherwise put: The features I need are features that are easy to grasp, and logical. |
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| 21:08.58 | PerfDave | jamie_: You probably want an sdl -dev package; apt-cache search -- sdl -dev |
| 21:09.04 | apfel | amule immediately crahes at startup with the error message: Gdk-ERROR **: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation). Any ideas what could be wrong? |
| 21:09.04 | PerfDave | jamie_: Also, /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 21:09.14 | mcquaid | jamie_, the dev sdl packages are all there |
| 21:09.19 | jamie_ | just for personal reference what is the apt-cache command for? |
| 21:09.30 | PerfDave | jamie_: man apt-cache |
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| 21:09.33 | mcquaid | i hear ya ribnitz i've got a few apes to deal with myself ;) |
| 21:09.54 | baffle | skaught: lilo, and afaik.. Yes.. |
| 21:10.09 | gvandora | PerfDave: linux-wlan-ng is loaded w/ module assist... however I still need to get the prism2_usb module loaded... |
| 21:10.15 | ribnitz | mcquaid: next investment if I can ever afford it will be a mac. |
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| 21:10.48 | jamie_ | you guys are awesome, i swear, why would i want to use any other distro with guys like you, someday when i get a hang of this hopefully i'll be on your end of things telling people what to do |
| 21:11.19 | skaught | baffle: Unfortunately, there could be a large number of reasons why /dev devices aren't being created unfortunately. I would recommend to keep googling on it |
| 21:11.19 | gvandora | PerfDave: when i try to run modprobe prism2_usb i get an error |
| 21:11.19 | PerfDave | gvandora: What error? |
| 21:11.19 | ribnitz | mcquaid: apes do mail, write text documents, and surf the net. |
| 21:11.19 | paulswm | !botsnack |
| 21:11.20 | dpkg | paulswm: :) |
| 21:11.25 | paulswm | YAY |
| 21:11.29 | gvandora | gvandora: FATAL: not found |
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| 21:11.38 | diesel | I have an external hard drive connected on /dev/sdb1, but I cannot mount it because it is ext2, which is not compiled in my kernel. How do I format the drive with ext3? |
| 21:11.51 | Celiun | damn, where the hell is that damn xserver config... |
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| 21:12.01 | skaught | diesel: If you are using ext3 devices, you *SHOULD* have ext2 built into your kernel. |
| 21:12.13 | echobucket | diesel, you can use tune2fs to add a journal |
| 21:12.30 | ribnitz | diesel: mkfs -t ext3 /dev/... (and yes, that will be irreversible data loss for the data on the drive) |
| 21:12.53 | skaught | Nah, tune2fs can add the journal non-destructively |
| 21:12.55 | echobucket | tune2fs -j /dev/... |
| 21:13.31 | ribnitz | skaught: true. |
| 21:13.31 | diesel | will tune2fs convert the device to ext3? |
| 21:13.40 | ribnitz | diesel: basically, yes. |
| 21:13.50 | skaught | diesel: Yes, but you should enable ext2 support in your kernel. |
| 21:13.51 | echobucket | diesel, modprobe ext2 if you are using a stock kernel |
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| 21:13.57 | gvandora | PerfDave: FATAL no found is the error when I try modprobe |
| 21:14.02 | echobucket | although that SHOULD load by itself. |
| 21:14.08 | diesel | echobucket, I am using a custom kernel |
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| 21:14.12 | echobucket | ah |
| 21:14.27 | echobucket | diesel, tune2js -j /dev/... adds a journal to ext2, making it ext3. |
| 21:14.29 | rpmx | startx 0:1 , I don't remenber to open 2nd Desktop |
| 21:14.34 | diesel | no ext2 support, did not think that I would need it. Apparently I still don't |
| 21:14.41 | diesel | tune2fs...sounds great. |
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| 21:14.50 | i3dmaster | rpmx: startx -- :1 |
| 21:14.52 | skaught | diesel: Enable ext2. You'll want to have that around if your journal ever gets trashed and you need to recover your partition with ext2 |
| 21:15.02 | ribnitz | diesel: ext3 is slow though. |
| 21:15.04 | diesel | skaught, good advice. |
| 21:15.05 | gvandora | PerfDave: so, I think I need to compile the modules... according to the compile instructions, I need the kernel source... how would I go about downloading that on debian |
| 21:15.09 | echobucket | diesel, I agree with skaught |
| 21:15.10 | i3dmaster | rpmx: should take F8 for the 2nd one |
| 21:15.16 | echobucket | diesel, good for emergencies |
| 21:15.17 | rpmx | i3dmaster, thank |
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| 21:15.22 | i3dmaster | rpmx: np |
| 21:15.33 | ribnitz | gvandora: apt-get install kernel-source-... |
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| 21:15.59 | KerPlunk | "fatal error no screens found" when I try to startx |
| 21:16.08 | gvandora | ribnitz: the "..." stands for the appropriat kernel no? now how do figure that part out |
| 21:16.11 | KerPlunk | My debian box has been working for like 6 months |
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| 21:16.18 | ribnitz | KerPlunk: there is usually an error before that. |
| 21:16.19 | KerPlunk | Why would my XF86-Config-4 file change? |
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| 21:16.38 | ribnitz | gvandora: apt-cache search kernel-source |
| 21:16.38 | initech | KerPlunk: are you running sid, or what? |
| 21:16.41 | KerPlunk | "No core point device specified" |
| 21:16.47 | mcquaid | ok, i've never mucked with deb src files and just want one as an example for making my own. i've enabled debian src sources. now when i apt get a source file where do they end up? |
| 21:16.49 | beardy | KerPlunk: It will if you like it. Take a backup copy. |
| 21:16.49 | KerPlunk | initech: sarge |
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| 21:17.09 | mcquaid | and i assume it won't conflict with any bin package i have installed |
| 21:17.19 | initech | mcquaid: in the current directory |
| 21:17.24 | KerPlunk | "unable to determine the screen layout" |
| 21:17.35 | KerPlunk | "No core pointer device specified" |
| 21:17.41 | KerPlunk | Are the two errors before that. |
| 21:17.53 | scholar01 | I'm trying to migrate my FC3 mailserver over to debian. I was using Postfix using SASL with SASLauthd which used PAM authentication. It was a cludge at best then. I don't want to spend days migrating, but if there's a better "debian" way of doing authentication with any SMTP package, I'd love to hear your suggestions. |
| 21:17.55 | mcquaid | ah ok |
| 21:17.57 | ribnitz | KerPlunk: whats the first error? |
| 21:17.58 | initech | KerPlunk: did you answer "y" to anything regarding a new XF86config-4 file? |
| 21:17.59 | gvandora | ribnitz: and to check the one I'm actually running |
| 21:18.08 | ribnitz | gvandora: uname -a |
| 21:18.10 | initech | KerPlunk: during an upgrade tha tis |
| 21:18.19 | KerPlunk | initech: no |
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| 21:18.36 | ribnitz | gvandora: but kernel-image-... (precompiled) solves most needs. |
| 21:18.39 | terry | scholar01: exim plus vexim |
| 21:18.56 | scholar01 | terry, Let me take a look at vexim. |
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| 21:19.36 | PerfDave | gvandora: No, just use module-assistant |
| 21:20.05 | KerPlunk | ribnitz: the first is core pointer device |
| 21:20.16 | PerfDave | gvandora: module-assistant auto-install linux-wlan-ng |
| 21:20.28 | KerPlunk | I have /dev/input/mice |
| 21:20.31 | ribnitz | KerPlunk: well, then your mouse isnt there, or isnt what it should be. |
| 21:20.34 | KerPlunk | But that file doesn't exist when I ls as root |
| 21:20.59 | ribnitz | KerPlunk: I use /dev/psaux (with hotplug, and a usb mouse) |
| 21:21.05 | KerPlunk | I have usb mouse. |
| 21:21.10 | KerPlunk | But /dev/psaux doesn't exist either. |
| 21:21.20 | ribnitz | KerPlunk: get hotplug? |
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| 21:21.29 | KerPlunk | What is hotplug? |
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| 21:21.38 | KerPlunk | apt-get -y install hotplug? |
| 21:21.43 | Nielsen | ya |
| 21:21.54 | ribnitz | KerPlunk: the thing that creates /dev/input/mice when needed. |
| 21:21.59 | KerPlunk | It says it's already the newest version. |
| 21:22.06 | scholar01 | terry, I forsee two issues, but my unfortuately, I just found out that I need to leave. I'll address those issues later. Thanks. |
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| 21:22.31 | ribnitz | KerPlunk: basically plug and play for usb. |
| 21:22.53 | KerPlunk | How do I check to see if it's started? |
| 21:22.55 | mcquaid | ok just looking over an existing src example to create my own debs, is there any automated way of filling in the build-depends and depends? |
| 21:23.12 | mcquaid | not sure if this part is always done manually, or can that info be grabbed from the ./configure or something |
| 21:24.13 | skaught | mcquaid: If you build a binary by hand, you can use the linker (ld) to determine what libraries the binary is linked against |
| 21:24.20 | Celiun | ... I might have to admit defeat... |
| 21:24.35 | simonrvn | ldd as well |
| 21:24.35 | gvandora | ribnitz + PerfDave: thanks for your help... I'll see how the compiling goes |
| 21:24.38 | Celiun | I can't install gnome ._. |
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| 21:25.03 | skaught | mcquaid: Then use dpkg to check the filenames, that'll give you a good start. Of course, you may want to depend on higher-level packages as a convenience |
| 21:25.06 | ribnitz | Celiun: apt-get install gnome? |
| 21:25.19 | Celiun | ribnitz: dosen't work, first thing i tried |
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| 21:25.34 | Celiun | well, apparently dosen't work at least |
| 21:25.37 | mcquaid | skaught, thx |
| 21:25.41 | ribnitz | Celiun: does any other window manager work? |
| 21:25.49 | Celiun | nope |
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| 21:25.58 | ik-SGI | hi |
| 21:26.03 | Celiun | can't start xserver aswell |
| 21:26.04 | ribnitz | Celiun: did you install X11? |
| 21:26.15 | ik-SGI | to install firefox is apt-get install firefox ? |
| 21:26.22 | ribnitz | ik-SGI: yep |
| 21:26.29 | simonrvn | mozilla-firefox |
| 21:26.32 | deadcat_ | mozilla-firefox |
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| 21:26.38 | skaught | mcquaid: Np, as simonrvn mentioned, the easiest command is 'ldd <bin>' |
| 21:26.41 | ik-SGI | oh ok |
| 21:26.43 | deadcat_ | ik-SGI: apt-cache search if you dont know |
| 21:26.44 | Celiun | ribnitz: from the cd archieves yeah, but apparently it forgot I did |
| 21:26.55 | ik-SGI | ok |
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| 21:27.16 | emergo | Im sure I installed mplayer as a debian package, but cant find it at apt.? |
| 21:27.22 | ribnitz | Celiun: If you have a working X11, startx should give like a grey desktop and a mouse pouinter. |
| 21:27.25 | Celiun | if you're willing to help I'd greatly appreciate it |
| 21:27.36 | PerfDave | emergo: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 21:27.45 | Celiun | startx is a unrecognized command |
| 21:27.55 | K_Dallas | i have never used mkisofs. where could i find examples on how to use it with cdrecord? thanks |
| 21:27.58 | neoxite | my xmms constantly hangs when its supposed to play the next track, using sarge with kde and OSS, and i'm clueless what might be wrong |
| 21:28.01 | mcquaid | ok but i'm not sure if i'm putting the horse before the carriage as i didn't run make so i don't have a bin yet. i thought i shouldn't as i was going to run dpkg-buildpackage to make the bin |
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| 21:28.13 | PeTeRB | !tell ralf about away |
| 21:28.16 | PerfDave | Celiun: apt-get install xbase-clients |
| 21:28.24 | neoxite | killing xmms from a konsole and manually playing the next track helps half of the time |
| 21:28.31 | streuner_ | K_Dallas: mkisofs -o /foo/some.iso -R -J /tmp/some_folder |
| 21:28.43 | ribnitz | Celiun: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 21:29.10 | mcquaid | does that make sense? i'm probably going about this the wrong way entirely, just trying to learn this |
| 21:29.22 | K_Dallas | streuner, so if i write that plus this: | cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc speed=16, then it would do it on the fly? |
| 21:29.32 | streuner_ | K_Dallas: CD-Writing-HOWTO has an example to use it in a pipe too |
| 21:29.32 | crashbg | when starting the notebook, where to put this script (it has to be as ROOT) and withoult loggin in: echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 21:29.42 | K_Dallas | good, i will look for it, thanks |
| 21:29.49 | crashbg | in /etc/profile or where |
| 21:29.52 | Celiun | hm... |
| 21:29.54 | skaught | mcquaid: Did you check out the new maintainers guide? It kindof has a step-by-step example driven instruction set for creating packages |
| 21:30.05 | Celiun | unable to connect to x Server |
| 21:30.17 | Celiun | connection refused |
| 21:30.18 | GSecurity | hi. could someone tells me if when ndiswrapper (for wireless connection) is installed, i need to put something in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 21:30.20 | mikeX | how can I make a file system on a file that has a partition table? |
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| 21:30.54 | mcquaid | ya i was looking it over, just seemed a little over the top in the sense that it covers all the scenarios like libraries etc |
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| 21:31.02 | emergo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.03 | emergo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.04 | petemc | GSecurity: you dont need to per se, but it makes life easier |
| 21:31.08 | skaught | mikeX: Usually the command is mk<fstype>, so for example mke2fs or mkreiserfs (ext3 is mke2fs -j) |
| 21:31.13 | mcquaid | i was trying to find a basic guide for srcs that compile without issue with jsut ./configure make make install |
| 21:31.25 | jamie_ | what does it mean glx extension not found on display 0:0? |
| 21:31.27 | Subvertir | I think xfs has a slightly different process |
| 21:31.28 | mcquaid | but i should go over it again as i've probably wasted more time trying to find a shortcut ;) |
| 21:31.31 | mikeX | skaught, yes but I don't want to make the filesystem on the file, but at the first partition of the file |
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| 21:32.03 | skaught | mikeX: If the disk is /dev/hda, then the first partition is /dev/hda1 (for example) |
| 21:32.20 | mikeX | skaught, it's not a block special file |
| 21:32.28 | mikeX | skaught, it's a file I created with dd |
| 21:32.43 | crashbg | in which file to put a script that will be executed at startup? witout modifying the rcS... |
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| 21:32.58 | crashbg | and without loggin in the system |
| 21:33.00 | reka | Ive got a problem with the module hpt366 taking over controll for a device that it CANT handle, thus causing some problems when I load the actual working module (hpt374 compiled from hpt374-opensource-v2.13) - how can I prevent hpt366 from trying to give support for a given range of IO and/or a specified IRQ ? |
| 21:33.19 | Celiun | PerfDave: Think you could help me out with setting up and running |
| 21:33.26 | Celiun | ... |
| 21:33.32 | GSecurity | petemc: ok, but what do i have to do in it then to make my life easier ? ^^ |
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| 21:33.33 | Celiun | hate when that happens |
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| 21:33.54 | Celiun | *setting up and running zserver |
| 21:33.57 | mikeX | I want to use it as the root of user-mode-linux |
| 21:34.05 | skaught | mikeX: Oh sorry, didn't understand your question :) |
| 21:34.10 | Celiun | *xserver |
| 21:34.13 | __zao__ | is there a possiblity to kill a program after specified time? |
| 21:34.26 | __zao__ | without a cron job i mean |
| 21:34.26 | Celiun | damn, I've been doing more and more mistakes lately |
| 21:34.43 | petemc | GSecurity: man 5 interfaces |
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| 21:35.31 | Celiun | use man |
| 21:35.54 | __zao__ | so something like: "run_for_specified_time 5min /my/script" |
| 21:36.12 | skaught | mikeX: Is it not possible to use separate files for partitions? |
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| 21:38.01 | GSecurity | petemc: ok ^^ |
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| 21:38.19 | jharrison | tarzeau: ping |
| 21:38.31 | tarzeau | pong |
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| 21:38.42 | jharrison | tarzeau: where is your site? |
| 21:39.03 | neoxite | does debian have nat modules for iptables (for example for icq file transfers)? |
| 21:39.09 | tarzeau | jharrison: my penis? |
| 21:39.16 | tarzeau | jharrison: i'm not sure what you mean with site, sorry |
| 21:39.24 | jharrison | tarzeau: im not interested in your penis :-P |
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| 21:39.26 | petemc | neoxite: thats a kernel thing |
| 21:39.34 | jharrison | tarzeau: dont you have a domain registered to you? |
| 21:39.40 | caphuso | jharrison: linuks.mine.nu |
| 21:39.41 | tarzeau | jharrison: i have several, yes |
| 21:39.42 | jharrison | tarzeau: I thought it was linuks.mine.nu |
| 21:39.48 | tarzeau | jharrison: that's one of them |
| 21:39.53 | jharrison | tarzeau: ah ok I thought that was one of yours |
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| 21:39.57 | jharrison | tarzeau: just making sure |
| 21:40.01 | neoxite | petemc: so where would i look for that? |
| 21:40.08 | petemc | neoxite: modconf |
| 21:40.12 | jharrison | tarzeau: could not pull up the whois on it |
| 21:40.21 | neoxite | petemc: ok i'll do that |
| 21:40.21 | skaught | mikeX: Because it would seem simple to create an zeroed file with dd, assign it to your UML device, make a filesystem on it. (Or you can create the filesystem before it's a device, just say yes when it warns that it's not a block device) |
| 21:40.22 | streuner_ | K_Dallas: mkisofs -r /tmp/data | cdrecord -v fs=6m speed=4 dev=0,4,0 - |
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| 21:40.27 | tarzeau | jharrison: yes it is. well it's a service of www.mine.nu (dyndns) |
| 21:40.45 | jharrison | tarzeau: ah ok |
| 21:41.19 | ribnitz | How smart is rsync? |
| 21:41.26 | jharrison | ribnitz: pretty smart |
| 21:41.35 | remmy_ | is there a diffrent folder manager... konquror sucks |
| 21:41.47 | citral | bash |
| 21:41.54 | jharrison | ribnitz: as smart as the poeple who coded it? |
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| 21:42.07 | caphuso | not smart enough to win next year's computer chess tournament |
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| 21:42.13 | ribnitz | jharrison: I am running over 24G data, and about 200k changed (at most). will it be as slow as the first time it ran? |
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| 21:42.38 | jharrison | ribnitz: hhmmm it should just get the changes if you use it right |
| 21:42.56 | ribnitz | jharrison: but will take a long time, no? |
| 21:43.09 | jharrison | ribnitz: I dont know |
| 21:43.14 | jharrison | ribnitz: I never did 24gb before |
| 21:43.17 | chealer | remmy_: nautilus? mc? |
| 21:43.19 | jharrison | ribnitz: only 5 or 6gb |
| 21:43.39 | ribnitz | jharrison: thats pretty fast.. |
| 21:43.56 | jharrison | ribnitz: try it and see |
| 21:44.04 | ribnitz | I am. |
| 21:44.44 | jharrison | ribnitz: done yet? |
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| 21:45.15 | ribnitz | jharrison: "building file list..." |
| 21:45.27 | jharrison | ribnitz: that sounds like it will take a while |
| 21:45.28 | ribnitz | jharrison: cpu is 2% idle. |
| 21:45.36 | jharrison | ribnitz: sweet |
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| 21:46.09 | ribnitz | jharrison: 0.02% idle, 5% idowait. |
| 21:46.24 | jharrison | ribnitz: what kind of cpu |
| 21:46.40 | ribnitz | jharrison: p2-450 |
| 21:46.49 | jharrison | ribnitz: not bad |
| 21:46.56 | jharrison | ribnitz: that 512 cache helps |
| 21:47.00 | ribnitz | jharrison: aka "full load" |
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| 21:47.16 | ribnitz | jharrison: 512 cache? |
| 21:47.18 | jharrison | ribnitz: full load of what ;) |
| 21:47.32 | jharrison | ribnitz: yeah those pentium II's have 512 caches |
| 21:47.40 | ribnitz | jharrison: cpu fully loaded. |
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| 21:48.24 | jharrison | mmmmmm pig feet souse |
| 21:48.27 | jharrison | yummy |
| 21:48.41 | ribnitz | jharrison: intel arch is known for poor io performance. |
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| 21:48.51 | jharrison | ribnitz: I have amd |
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| 21:49.14 | ribnitz | jharrison: unless its an opteron, its still intel arch (aka. i386) |
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| 21:49.39 | jharrison | ribnitz: amd thunderbird 1.4ghz, amd athlon 2000xp, and amd athlon 2600xp and soon to build athlon64 |
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| 21:50.03 | ribnitz | jharrison: 78% io wait, 0.4% idle. |
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| 21:50.23 | ribnitz | jharrison: I told ya, intels are bad on io. |
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| 21:50.31 | jharrison | yes you did say that |
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| 21:51.25 | ribnitz | jharrison: amd is more bang for the buck though. |
| 21:51.43 | jharrison | ribnitz: I like the bang |
| 21:52.55 | robin_sz | I rpefer the buck |
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| 21:54.06 | PerfDave | I like deer hunting, bang and buck together. |
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| 21:54.50 | ribnitz | I guess more memory would imporve the io... 497 mb (of 256) committed... |
| 21:54.56 | robin_sz | I prefer deer hunting with a .300 winchester magnum, plenty of bang, but the buck, well, its all sort of "distributed" |
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| 21:55.06 | Glitch_ | Um... where's the thing to change display managers? |
| 21:55.28 | Glitch_ | What file? |
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| 21:55.50 | ribnitz | robin_sz: distributed bucks.. :) |
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| 21:56.20 | Glitch_ | ...'lo? |
| 21:56.22 | robin_sz | ribnitz: more distributed bits of buck really ;) |
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| 21:57.43 | PerfDave | Draconicus: just dpkg-reconfigure one |
| 21:57.54 | ribnitz | 90% io wait, guys how would I imporve that? |
| 21:57.56 | Draconicus | I figured the file would take less effort... :| |
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| 21:58.29 | PerfDave | ribnitz: Turn on DMA! :) |
| 21:58.48 | K_Dallas | bin/cue question: what is the easiest and most straighforward way to burn them, not mount them as with cdemu or convert them with binchunk? thanks |
| 21:58.54 | paulswm | ribnitz: hdparm! |
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| 22:00.00 | K_Dallas | (i am opening the cue with k3b, not sure if it would work or not) |
| 22:00.30 | PerfDave | K_Dallas: k3b appears to be able to burn directly from cue files |
| 22:00.45 | K_Dallas | i hope so :) it is reading it right now |
| 22:00.48 | ethics | hey does xine use the same plugins as say mplayer if your using marillat? |
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| 22:01.07 | ethics | iei have win32codecs...they work with xine at all? |
| 22:01.17 | ribnitz | how do I set it on a mapped (SATA) disk? |
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| 22:02.01 | ethics | ribitz: i know smart doesnt work with Sata yet but i thought hdparm did |
| 22:02.07 | ribnitz | HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument |
| 22:02.19 | PerfDave | ethics: They should do |
| 22:02.33 | ribnitz | PerfDave: does not, as sda |
| 22:02.51 | paulswm | Heh, immortalized legba7 |
| 22:02.53 | paulswm | !qotd89 |
| 22:02.54 | PerfDave | ribnitz: Uhm, what? |
| 22:02.54 | dpkg | methinks qotd89 is <legba7> How do i find out what makes my woody beep and do not stop to beep till i create another beep. |
| 22:03.06 | ethics | PerfDave, really im buggered if i can smart turned on on my board....bios doesnt have option but it says smart is disabled |
| 22:03.14 | Draconicus | dpkg-reconfigure doesn't seem to let me select my display manager. I need to change it from xdm to gdm. I know that doesn't make sense to some, because xdm is supposedly better, but gdm has more features and function. |
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| 22:03.28 | ribnitz | PerfDave: hdparm (params) /dev/sda gices inappropriate ioctl.. |
| 22:03.39 | PerfDave | ribnitz: I wasn't talking about hdparm or SATA |
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| 22:03.44 | PerfDave | ethics: 23:01 < ethics> hey does xine use the same plugins as say mplayer if your using marillat? |
| 22:03.47 | PerfDave | ethics: 23:02 < PerfDave> ethics: They should do |
| 22:03.49 | jethro | Draconicus: just apt-get install gdm |
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| 22:04.01 | ribnitz | PerfDave: Oh. sorry. |
| 22:04.03 | Draconicus | jethro: ...but I already have gdm... |
| 22:04.27 | lilgg | ey can anyone tell me why i cant install make or fileutils? |
| 22:04.47 | PerfDave | lilgg: No, nobody can tell you unless you tell us what error you get when you try. |
| 22:04.48 | ethics | PerfDave, oh crossed wired hehe cool thx for the yes on plugins hehe...i thouhgt you responded re smart on sata hehe |
| 22:04.54 | PerfDave | Draconicus: dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 22:05.17 | Draconicus | That was easy. |
| 22:05.18 | Draconicus | Thanks. |
| 22:05.48 | PerfDave | 22:58 < PerfDave> Draconicus: just dpkg-reconfigure one |
| 22:05.50 | PerfDave | ;p |
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| 22:05.57 | Draconicus | Oh. |
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| 22:06.04 | Draconicus | I thought you meant reconfigure x. :P |
| 22:06.16 | PerfDave | Draconicus: No, I was talking about display managers :) |
| 22:06.21 | Draconicus | I see. |
| 22:06.27 | lilgg | PerfDave where should i paste it? |
| 22:06.36 | lilgg | i dont see anyone of u in #flood |
| 22:06.46 | giupy | what kind of file is a .ape file ? |
| 22:06.54 | PerfDave | lilgg: /msg dpkg paste, or just tell us. |
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| 22:07.09 | ribnitz | giupy: file has some infos? |
| 22:07.16 | PerfDave | giupy: A file with .ape as an extension ;) |
| 22:07.20 | PerfDave | giupy: At a guess, MonkeysAudio :) |
| 22:07.21 | K_Dallas | giupy, it is a sound file |
| 22:07.31 | daft | is there a way to make a device (/dev/rfcom*) accable from a other box? |
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| 22:07.52 | PerfDave | daft: netcat? ssh in? :) |
| 22:07.54 | giupy | monkeysaudio i think...... |
| 22:07.59 | citral | someone has a tip for adding cooling to a laptop ? I already changed the stupid thermic pad for thermic glue, that helped a bit, but anyway after 10 minutes at 100% it begins to throttle |
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| 22:08.24 | daft | hmmzzz netcat might do the trick |
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| 22:08.28 | paulswm | Someone should tell the developer that apes and monkeys aren't the same thing |
| 22:08.39 | lilgg | PerfDave can i paste private? cos i dont wanna get kicked |
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| 22:08.47 | PerfDave | lilgg: Just tell us, or use the damn pastebot. |
| 22:08.48 | giupy | thanks all |
| 22:08.53 | lilgg | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/fileutils_4.1-10_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 22:08.53 | lilgg | trying to overwrite `/bin/chgrp', which is also in package coreutils |
| 22:08.53 | lilgg | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 22:08.53 | lilgg | Errors were encountered while processing: |
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| 22:09.02 | lilgg | /VAR/CACHE/APT/ARCHIVES/FILEUTILS_4.1-10_I386.DEB |
| 22:09.12 | lilgg | did u get the whole thing? |
| 22:09.18 | lilgg | 6 lines |
| 22:09.27 | PerfDave | lilgg: No idea, I don't know how long it was going to be. Why did you paste the whole thing? |
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| 22:09.52 | lilgg | so ull understand where the error is |
| 22:09.53 | lilgg | :p |
| 22:09.58 | paulswm | lilgg: please don't paste here |
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| 22:10.12 | lilgg | paulswm i was kinda told to but sorry |
| 22:10.23 | simonrvn | no you weren't |
| 22:10.36 | simonrvn | 18:08 PerfDave : lilgg: Just tell us, or use the damn pastebot. |
| 22:10.39 | paulswm | lilgg: you were told to use the pastebot |
| 22:10.45 | simonrvn | you just can't read i suppose |
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| 22:10.55 | lilgg | ok well are we gonna make abig fuss about it? |
| 22:11.02 | dondelelcaro | !info fileutils |
| 22:11.02 | lilgg | i said sorry |
| 22:11.05 | dpkg | fileutils: (The GNU file management utilities (transitional package)), section oldlibs, is extra. Version: 5.2.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 16 kB |
| 22:11.14 | mhall | From what SSH configuration file can I retrieve the system's current SSH fingerprint? |
| 22:11.24 | PerfDave | lilgg: Which version of Debian are you running? |
| 22:11.34 | dondelelcaro | and precisely *why* are you trying to install a fileutils from the 4.1-10 era? |
| 22:11.34 | jethro | mhall: the host key |
| 22:11.43 | dondelelcaro | !info fileutils woody |
| 22:11.45 | dpkg | fileutils: (GNU file management utilities), section base, is required. Version: 4.1-10 (woody), Packaged size: 693 kB, Installed size: 1928 kB |
| 22:11.50 | lilgg | PerfDave sarge net installation |
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| 22:12.05 | jethro | mhall: man ssh-keygen /fingerprint |
| 22:12.23 | quitte | lilgg sarge is not stable yet. change your etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:12.26 | simonrvn | ...and is going to break shit badly |
| 22:12.34 | ribnitz | dondelelcaro: is that worth the effort a week before new stable? |
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| 22:12.40 | Ronin | quitte: may not be called stable but ... |
| 22:12.49 | lilgg | quitte and what if i change it? |
| 22:12.54 | paulswm | quitte: that's bad advice. |
| 22:13.02 | quitte | lilgg then run apt-get update |
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| 22:13.17 | quitte | paulswm what is a good advice in that case? |
| 22:13.17 | remmy_ | has anyone set up mozilla with hotmail? |
| 22:13.23 | remmy_ | mozilla mail* |
| 22:13.34 | dondelelcaro | ribnitz: no, definetly not. But that's what lilgg appears to be trying to do |
| 22:13.35 | paulswm | quitte: to install sarge. |
| 22:13.40 | PerfDave | mhall: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key.pub |
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| 22:13.56 | quitte | paulswm i'd think he did and changed the source.lsit somehow |
| 22:13.59 | Ich | my stepbrother unrolled a clove cigarette, and used rolling papers to re-roll it |
| 22:14.03 | lilgg | well i already had my source.list edited |
| 22:14.04 | Ich | and proceeded to tell my younger brother it was pot |
| 22:14.08 | Ich | he lit it up, and offered him a hit |
| 22:14.14 | PerfDave | lilgg: Why did you edit your sources.list? |
| 22:14.18 | Ich | that loser didn't to |
| 22:14.34 | lilgg | PerfDave so i can downloadfrom a nearby mirror? |
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| 22:14.42 | Ronin | Ich: smart younger brother |
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| 22:14.46 | quitte | paulswm: see? |
| 22:14.52 | PerfDave | lilgg: You can select a nearby mirror when you install. |
| 22:15.02 | revelater | help please |
| 22:15.04 | PerfDave | lilgg: You're trying to install packages from Woody onto a Sarge system, that's why it's breaking. |
| 22:15.09 | Ich | he doesn't even know what a clove cigarette smells like |
| 22:15.15 | Ronin | revelater: cant help till we know the problem |
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| 22:15.24 | lilgg | PenjejakNeraka_ yeah i noticed that..what should i do then? |
| 22:15.31 | lilgg | ops PerfDave* |
| 22:15.33 | remmy_ | has anyone set up mozilla mail with hotmail? what is the outgoing server? |
| 22:15.41 | lilgg | change my mirror site? |
| 22:15.43 | revelater | my problem is i can't configure apt-get because i can't seem to connect to the internet |
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| 22:15.47 | PerfDave | lilgg: Don't try to install packages from Woody onto a Sarge system :) |
| 22:15.52 | quitte | lilgg: change the woody or stable in the sources.list back to sarge |
| 22:15.54 | PerfDave | revelater: That doesn't mean you can't configure apt-get. |
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| 22:16.04 | lilgg | PerfDave yeah i got that but where will i get the sarge packages? |
| 22:16.05 | revelater | well, i can't get any packages |
| 22:16.14 | PerfDave | lilgg: From a Sarge package mirror :) |
| 22:16.16 | revelater | i am using the net install |
| 22:16.17 | streuner_ | remmy_: i doubt that you able to use it... |
| 22:16.17 | PerfDave | revelater: CDs? :) |
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| 22:16.24 | kazim | hi |
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| 22:16.30 | lilgg | quitte: and instead of stable put testing? |
| 22:16.31 | streuner_ | remmy_: mostly you have to pay for this feature |
| 22:16.31 | revelater | and it needs to be connect to the net anyways |
| 22:16.32 | paulswm | quitte: Oh, I misunderstood you, I apologize. I thought you were saying that he/she should put 'stable' in sources.list |
| 22:16.45 | PerfDave | revelater: Am I correct in thinking that your problem is actually that you can't get your network card working, not that you can't configure apt-get? |
| 22:16.48 | kazim | im not familiar with find and i wanted to know how make a search inside of file in a dir |
| 22:16.48 | lilgg | PerfDave ok let me try |
| 22:16.49 | quitte | lilgg no sarge. etch will soon be the new testing |
| 22:17.00 | lilgg | okeik |
| 22:17.16 | PerfDave | kazim: For searching inside files, you use grep rather than find. |
| 22:17.19 | revelater | network card is working and i can ping the gateway, but i cannot access the net or any other computers in the network |
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| 22:17.38 | kazim | PerfDave ho :/ yeah :/ i m stupid thanks |
| 22:17.49 | PerfDave | revelater: Have you set your netmask and gateway correctly in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 22:18.07 | jay | quick question about crontab, i have made the crontab file (crontab -e), but it always returns "permission denied" when trying to write the output of the command to a file |
| 22:18.24 | PerfDave | Output of what command? |
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| 22:18.31 | revelater | i believe so... |
| 22:18.34 | jay | the command the crontab is doing (a small .sh script i made) |
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| 22:18.56 | jay | so im doing 20 23 * * * myfile.sh>logfile |
| 22:19.02 | revelater | i also seem to be running dhclient when i should be having a static ip |
| 22:19.04 | jay | always says logfile permission denied |
| 22:19.11 | streuner_ | remmy_: there is an easy solution, just configure your own mailserver |
| 22:19.17 | PerfDave | revelater: Why are you running dhclient when you should be having a static IP? :) |
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| 22:19.29 | revelater | thats what i want to know!!! |
| 22:19.36 | PerfDave | jay: Does your user have permission to write to logfile in the directory where the script is running? |
| 22:19.41 | quitte | i need to replace :ext:user with :pserver:anoncvs in all CVS/Root files below a directory. can someone tell me how to do it,please? |
| 22:19.51 | PerfDave | revelater: Have you specified static or DHCP configuration in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 22:19.59 | jay | hmm i did chmod 755 <logfile> is that not correct? |
| 22:20.06 | r_marvin | quitte: use sed |
| 22:20.23 | quitte | r_marvin great. i would if i could. |
| 22:20.23 | revelater | i have specified static, but do i need to restart computer for it to take effect or just some program? |
| 22:20.25 | jay | ahh i c, its owner is root |
| 22:20.33 | remmy_ | streuner_, umm how would i do that? do i still have a @hotmail address? |
| 22:20.38 | revelater | or instant? |
| 22:20.38 | streuner_ | remmy_: of course, it wouldn't effect any mail adress you have |
| 22:20.52 | r_marvin | quitte: then use perl, if you can't install sed |
| 22:20.53 | lilgg | darn i cant find a mirror can someone help me?:( |
| 22:20.57 | remmy_ | streuner_, how would i do that? |
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| 22:21.10 | streuner_ | remmy_: google for SMTP HOWTO |
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| 22:21.19 | PerfDave | quitte: Untested, but: find /top/level/directory -path '*CVS/Root' -print0 | xargs -0 -n 1 sed -ibak 's/:ext:user/:pserver:anoncvs/' |
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| 22:21.41 | ethics | lilgg apt-setup |
| 22:21.42 | quitte | PerfDave: thanks. a lot better than learning sed for that one command. |
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| 22:21.50 | hanjou | hello, im a noob to debian could some one be so nice to answer some noob questions |
| 22:21.56 | ribnitz | what does kblockd/0 do? |
| 22:21.59 | ethics | lilgg will allow you to pick some debian ones |
| 22:22.00 | PerfDave | hanjou: If you ask them, we'll have a go ;) |
| 22:22.02 | hanjou | how do i se what version of debian is installed what do i type in ? |
| 22:22.06 | Ich | !tell hanjou about ask |
| 22:22.12 | PerfDave | hanjou: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:22.13 | ribnitz | hanjou: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 22:22.18 | lilgg | ethics ok let me check |
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| 22:22.43 | ethics | lilgg: its semi graphical .....ansi for the win |
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| 22:23.00 | Fleck | who can help me with fonts ir x11 ? |
| 22:23.08 | PerfDave | hanjou: The output of the following command can also be useful: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 | awk '{print $3}' |
| 22:23.23 | Fleck | well on KDE fonts ar OK - without antialiasing, but on fluxbox sucks :/ |
| 22:23.50 | revelater | PerfDave: do i need to restart the computer after changing that file? |
| 22:24.11 | PerfDave | revelater: No. Just use ifdown and ifup to bring your network interface down and up. |
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| 22:24.19 | kazim | i do a cat */* [ grep for display some info but i can't have the file where i found the result |
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| 22:24.33 | lazy | is it a good idea to owerwrite /var/www/apache-default with package's default on upgrade ? |
| 22:24.38 | deadcat | Fleck: go to the config and select AA then |
| 22:24.54 | deadcat | lazy: sure. you using apache2? |
| 22:24.55 | PerfDave | lazy: Unless you've made changes to /var/www/apache-default that you want to keep, yes. |
| 22:25.27 | lazy | yeah |
| 22:25.29 | PerfDave | revelater: You may need to kill your dhclient manually. |
| 22:25.36 | jethro | kazim: use grep -i 'foo' path/to/files/ |
| 22:25.53 | lazy | it defaulted my site for 2 days cuz i didn't notice it |
| 22:26.04 | jethro | kazim: my bad, it's grep -r not grep -i |
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| 22:26.18 | kazim | jethro: i test that thank a lo |
| 22:26.29 | lazy | i realy don't like this Modrewrite trick for the default page |
| 22:26.46 | Fleck | deadcat it's seems like AA is allready ON, and that's why fonts are ugly, just ... for simbol k - "<" part is grey and on black background bad readable :( |
| 22:26.46 | revelater | PerfDave: i killed it already, and ifdown gave me an error, something about not being able to read the interfaces file |
| 22:26.53 | kazim | jethro: perfect ! thanks |
| 22:26.58 | jethro | kazim: you're welcome |
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| 22:27.06 | jay | in this crontab i run myfile.sh>logfile. How do i make it append to logfile rather than writing over the same line again? |
| 22:27.07 | PerfDave | revelater: In that case, you probably made an error in the interfaces file. "man 5 interfaces" |
| 22:27.14 | hanjou | i'm reading a linux curse and most of the people have installed gentoo or slackware, and iam to suppose to say a little summery on debian what sould i type ? |
| 22:27.20 | lazy | i think overwriting this during an upgrade is a bad idea |
| 22:27.31 | PerfDave | jay: Read a bash tutorial :) |
| 22:27.56 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - is there an way to mark a package as installed in apt, like emerge --inject on gentoo? im compiling kde 3.4.1 from sources |
| 22:27.59 | kazim | jethro: can i pass that directly to a mail ? like grep ... > mail toto@domaon.com ? |
| 22:28.01 | PerfDave | jay: /msg dpkg bash programming |
| 22:28.03 | lilgg | thx guys it workd:D altho now i have problems with X |
| 22:28.04 | lilgg | :p |
| 22:28.08 | PerfDave | kazim: /msg dpkg bash programming |
| 22:28.12 | lazy | is ther any other "Right way" (TM) for a non virtual webserwer ? |
| 22:28.20 | PerfDave | Super_Cat_Frog: /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 22:28.31 | Super_Cat_Frog | thanks |
| 22:28.31 | jethro | kazim: you want to use |, not > |
| 22:28.48 | kazim | PerfDave: ty |
| 22:28.54 | kazim | jethro: ho |
| 22:29.00 | ribnitz | anyone interested: rsync took 45 mins to build a file list (ovwer 23 gig of data) |
| 22:29.05 | jay | oki doki :) |
| 22:29.24 | kazim | jethro: thanks a lot for you're advice i ll go sleep sweeter now it's fix |
| 22:29.36 | jethro | kazim: or > to a file, then call mail. like grep ... > file ; mail foo@bar < file |
| 22:29.46 | hanjou | do i have to type anything after i have typed make clean, make menuconfig ? |
| 22:29.48 | jethro | kazim: you're welcome, good night |
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| 22:30.15 | revelater | PerfDave: says it has a misplaced option, i am confused, could i post the file in flood or something? |
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| 22:30.50 | giupy | can i use monkeys-audio with xmms? there isn't a specified plugin for xmms....... |
| 22:31.02 | Super_Cat_Frog | perfdave - thats not what i asked, i need debian to know kde 3.4.1 is installed incase something depends on it |
| 22:31.02 | PerfDave | revelater: I'd prefer you use the pastebot. |
| 22:31.09 | PerfDave | Super_Cat_Frog: Read the damn factoid. |
| 22:31.15 | Leonardo_Lopes | what are the differences between cdebootstrap and debootstrap? |
| 22:31.29 | MasterChief | I need help installing proftpd can someone help? I cant install it. |
| 22:31.31 | revelater | i just realized... i will have to type it all out... since i cann't post anything from that computer :P |
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| 22:31.37 | KerPlunk | My XF86Config-4 file is gone...how can I recreate it? |
| 22:31.59 | Super_Cat_Frog | perfdave - i did, only says about only installing by hand into /usr/local |
| 22:32.08 | PerfDave | Super_Cat_Frog: No, it doesn't only say that. |
| 22:32.08 | toonX | what is better to use , apt or aptitude ? or is the same thing ? |
| 22:32.15 | PerfDave | giupy: NAFAIK. Monkeys-Audio is some horrible, propriatery, Windows-only codec. I don't even think the Windows player runs in Wine. |
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| 22:32.17 | dondelelcaro | toonX: if you have to ask, probably aptitude |
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| 22:32.52 | PerfDave | toonX: apt-get is safer, aptitude makes more assumptions for you. |
| 22:33.00 | Super_Cat_Frog | perfdave - unless you are referring to the 'see also checkinstall', but that is not what i want (im using konstruct to compile kde so i need to just mark it as installed, just like emerge --inject in gentoo) |
| 22:33.01 | dondelelcaro | no, it doesn't. |
| 22:33.11 | KerPlunk | dondelelcaro: do you know? |
| 22:33.14 | PerfDave | Super_Cat_Frog: If you can't read, I can't help you. |
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| 22:33.41 | toonX | PerfDave k thanks |
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| 22:33.45 | toonX | dondelelcaro k thanks |
| 22:33.46 | dondelelcaro | KerPlunk: use --force-confmiss for starters, and /msg dpkg xmd5sum |
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| 22:34.15 | Super_Cat_Frog | perfdave - When hand-compiling software, *always* install into /usr/local (normally with ./configure --prefix=/usr/local). Otherwise, |
| 22:34.19 | Super_Cat_Frog | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.21 | comadreja | after reconfiguring xserver-xfree86 with dpkg-reconfigure how do I regenerate the X config file ? |
| 22:34.22 | Super_Cat_Frog | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.22 | dondelelcaro | PerfDave: presumably you're refering to the automatic installation of Recommends. That's a good idea if you don't know what you're doing. If you know enough to not want them, you should know enough to turn that feature off. |
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| 22:34.54 | PerfDave | Super_Cat_Frog: Thanks for spamming me. Try reading instead of pasting. |
| 22:35.21 | KerPlunk | dondelelcaro: Why doesn't dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 work? |
| 22:35.42 | lilgg | can someone tell me why i get "no screens" while i configure it right?:/ and i cant install the drivers. |
| 22:35.57 | higiker | Hi guys, I'm running Debian on a laptop as an AP with DHCP... where can I configure static routes? |
| 22:36.06 | dondelelcaro | KerPlunk: because deleting your configuration file is a valid configuration option, and dpkg-reconfigure won't change the config if you've done that. |
| 22:36.07 | PerfDave | lilgg: /msg dpkg no screens found |
| 22:36.13 | lilgg | ok thx |
| 22:36.25 | dondelelcaro | higiker: if it's just an AP, you don't need to set up static routes, just bridge the interfaces. |
| 22:36.26 | mhall | I explored the use of ssh-keygen -l for getting the SSH key fingerprint based on the SSH key file, but this cannot be automated at the command line because ssh-keygen will not accept the filename on the command line. How can I avoid this problem? |
| 22:36.44 | mhall | ack nevermine |
| 22:36.46 | mhall | nevermind |
| 22:36.48 | higiker | oh.. could you tell me how to do that? |
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| 22:37.04 | higiker | or point me to a FAQ? |
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| 22:37.16 | Super_Cat_Frog | perfdave - im not trying to be argumentative, but please tell me what is in those 3 lines about marking something as installed manually, so apt knows its there and doesn't try to replace it with an older version if something replaces it |
| 22:37.27 | revelater | PerfDave: ok i got it running (their was a syntax error in the file, not my fault either :P) but still no net? |
| 22:37.31 | KerPlunk | dondelelcaro: sorry...so what do I do again...my cache is gone. |
| 22:37.38 | dondelelcaro | KerPlunk: use --force-confmiss for starters, and /msg dpkg xmd5sum |
| 22:37.55 | PerfDave | Super_Cat_Frog: I can't help you if you can't read the words that are RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE. |
| 22:37.58 | KerPlunk | --force-confmiss with what program? |
| 22:38.03 | scar_ | I have installed X11 and enlightenment on my debian box and it works perfectly. now I want to access it remotely through my LAN from a WindowsXP box. I have been told x11vnc, realvnc, cygwin are possible ways to do this. but I am wondering, if they do actually give me the exact desktop that I'd have if I'd access locally? and which one is prefered? realvnc does cost money? |
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| 22:38.30 | dondelelcaro | KerPlunk: dpkg --force-confmiss -i /foo/path/to/xserver-xfree86-*.deb |
| 22:38.32 | lilgg | PerfDave its not helping.. i just get this error :(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. |
| 22:38.51 | WiFiTux | Hi, I'm trying to patch a source, I mean, create a patch, and the fact is that I can patch it with my patch with patch < bla.diff but they are asking me to create the patch to be applied as a -p1 how can i do that? |
| 22:38.58 | dondelelcaro | lilgg: so dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86; and select the proper driver as well as the proper parameters for your monitor. |
| 22:39.12 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: make the patch from one directory higher. |
| 22:39.16 | mhall | How can one convince an SSH server daemon to verify incoming host key fingerprints against known correct values for security purposes? |
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| 22:39.30 | PerfDave | mhall: You mean to use client fingerprints? |
| 22:39.32 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: ala instead of diff a ../b/a; do cd ..; diff c b; |
| 22:39.35 | Super_Cat_Frog | perfdave. i can read perfectly well, and quite obviously you have not bothered to read THE WORDS THAT ARE RIGHT INFRONT OF YOUR FACE, as there is no reference in that text to marking a package as installed |
| 22:39.50 | PerfDave | Super_Cat_Frog: Yes there are. I am fed up with you. *plonk* |
| 22:39.55 | revelater | PerfDave: ok i got it running (their was a syntax error in the file, not my fault either :P) but still no net? |
| 22:39.56 | Super_Cat_Frog | it only mentions only installing to /usr/local incase apt overwrites it |
| 22:40.19 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: alternatively, edit the patch by hand to add another directory |
| 22:40.32 | PerfDave | revelater: Hmm. Not sure, sorry. I'm off to bed, Super_Cat_Frog's rudeness has worn me out for tonight. |
| 22:40.41 | mhall | PerfDave: I am writing a tool that will poll some hosts for their fingerprints, then create a config file that contains these values for my downstream consumer to use. |
| 22:40.50 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, I have /root/a/source/ and /root/b/source. I edited /root/b/source/bla and then I did in /root diff -up a/source b/source > bla.diff |
| 22:40.51 | zepeuga | i've apt-get install webmin, and now i don't know how to use it...in README it says to run "setup.sh" in /usr/share/webmin but i haven't that file |
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| 22:40.55 | mhall | PerfDave: That way the consumer's daemons will know I'm really me. |
| 22:41.06 | MasterChief | Can someone please tell me how to delete packages from debain, sorry first time using linux. |
| 22:41.15 | Super_Cat_Frog | perfdave - im not trying to be rude, or anoying, i just dont see what i want in that text |
| 22:41.16 | PerfDave | mhall: What you're talking about makes no sense. The ssh client doesn't send a host key to the server. |
| 22:41.19 | mhall | PerfDave: But I need to know what config file my script will be autogenerating, so I know what to do. |
| 22:41.22 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, and they complain about iut |
| 22:41.22 | Super_Cat_Frog | sorry if i have upset you |
| 22:41.24 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: yeah, so that should give you a patch to apply with -p1 |
| 22:41.25 | comadreja | Super_Cat_Frog : man apt_preferences |
| 22:41.31 | drp | MasterChief: apt-get remove maybe |
| 22:41.34 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: paste the first 3 lines of the patch into #flood |
| 22:41.36 | PerfDave | !faq MasterChief |
| 22:41.37 | dpkg | MasterChief: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 22:41.38 | Super_Cat_Frog | comadreja - thanks |
| 22:41.42 | drp | MasterChief: might want to consult the man pages ... man apt-get |
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| 22:41.51 | MasterChief | thanks |
| 22:41.52 | mhall | PerfDave: But, it must send a public key to get the session started, right? |
| 22:41.54 | higiker | anyone here use pebble? |
| 22:41.54 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, going |
| 22:41.58 | revelater | !kill everyone |
| 22:42.10 | revelater | brutal... |
| 22:42.12 | dondelelcaro | Super_Cat_Frog: what exactly are you trying to do? You generally shouldn't be installing packages manually. Use the packaging system to help you, don't work around it. |
| 22:42.38 | PerfDave | mhall: You can use client certificate (pubkey) authentication, but that's got nothing to do with the server authentication or /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key.pub |
| 22:42.42 | Super_Cat_Frog | domdelelcaro - im compiling kde 3.4.1 using konstruct |
| 22:42.52 | PerfDave | comadreja: That won't help Super_Cat_Frog, but they're ignoring the right answer they've been given. |
| 22:42.53 | revelater | !kill revelater |
| 22:42.54 | dondelelcaro | Super_Cat_Frog: don't do that. Use the packages in /topic #debian-kde |
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| 22:43.12 | mhall | PerfDave: Alright, allow me to rephrase. |
| 22:43.16 | revelater | ow!!! that didn't kil me, but now i wish it had |
| 22:43.28 | revelater | !kill revelater |
| 22:43.37 | PerfDave | mhall: If you want to log into a remote system using a predetermined SSH client key, copy it from .ssh/id_rsa.pub to .ssh/authorized_keys on the remote system. |
| 22:43.38 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: ah... that will apply with -p2. You want to cd b; diff -u ipw2200-1.0.4 ../a/ipw2200-1.0.4; |
| 22:43.40 | comadreja | PerfDave : maybe giving a pin-priority of 0 for the package he doesn't want to install... |
| 22:43.40 | mhall | PerfDave: In what way can I prove that I'm really me when using SSH? |
| 22:43.59 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, ahh!!! :) Yes, I was told that would apply with -p2 |
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| 22:44.03 | comadreja | and forcing dependencies later |
| 22:44.08 | mhall | PerfDave: What about if I want this to be two-factor with a key and a passphrase? |
| 22:44.20 | comadreja | my question: after reconfiguring xserver-xfree86 with dpkg-reconfigure how do I regenerate the X config file ? |
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| 22:44.22 | Super_Cat_Frog | dondelelcaro - the packages in /topic in debian-kde are outdated (pre release of 3.4.0), i want 3.4.1 |
| 22:44.28 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, so diff from the devel source to the orig file. |
| 22:44.51 | PerfDave | mhall: That is two factor. You tell the remote system the public key it needs to trust, and the local private key is protected with a passphrase. |
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| 22:45.14 | PerfDave | mhall: So on the local system, when you SSH, you type in the passphrase to unlock the private key and use that to authenticate to the remote system. |
| 22:45.16 | dondelelcaro | Super_Cat_Frog: if you can't make the packages manually, you don't want to install kde 3.4.1 |
| 22:45.34 | mhall | PerfDave: ok, I will need to think about this some more and read |
| 22:45.40 | mhall | PerfDave: thanks for the pointers |
| 22:45.46 | PerfDave | comadreja: Forcing dependencies is fundementally wrong and broken. |
| 22:45.50 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, thanks for the pointer. |
| 22:45.51 | dondelelcaro | Super_Cat_Frog: subverting the packaging system is not something that should be done, unless you know exactly what you're doing. Only pain lies down that path. |
| 22:46.00 | deadcat | problem using bloated software is that you have to wait hella long before it comes to debian. hahahaha |
| 22:46.07 | comadreja | PerfDave : yes, I know |
| 22:46.17 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: or you could help bring it to Debian... |
| 22:46.27 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: kde? fuck no (= |
| 22:46.28 | PerfDave | dondelelcaro: I have told them how to tell apt that they've compiled a package from non-apt sources, but they won't listen :/ |
| 22:46.38 | dondelelcaro | PerfDave: that's great. |
| 22:46.45 | PerfDave | mhall: Basically, generate an ssh keypair, and preseed your account on the remote systems with the right public key. |
| 22:47.10 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i am glad kde or gnome is not the latest in debian so i can see people bitch about it here. |
| 22:47.19 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: heh |
| 22:47.29 | Super_Cat_Frog | perfdave - you didn't tell me how to tell apt ive instaled it manually, you told me that i should install it in /usr/local |
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| 22:47.45 | dondelelcaro | I don't really care either way, I just won't recommend a method that will cause people to come back here with a broken system |
| 22:47.50 | PerfDave | dondelelcaro: Ooh, good point, I forgot the -replies. |
| 22:47.52 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: but xorg is a diff story though. i want video out for the ibook without reboot. |
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| 22:48.26 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yeah... but you know what you're doing, so it's not a big deal. |
| 22:48.55 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i know what iam doing, thats why i am waiting (= |
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| 22:49.09 | hanjou | how do i delet a user ? |
| 22:49.15 | deadcat | hanjou: userdel -r |
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| 22:49.26 | hanjou | deadcat thx |
| 22:49.35 | zepeuga | i've apt-get install webmin, and now i don't know how to use it...in README it says to run "setup.sh" in /usr/share/webmin but i haven't that file |
| 22:49.41 | lilgg | im trying ot install vga drivers and i get this error: ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel |
| 22:49.42 | deadcat | hanjou: npyfh |
| 22:49.45 | drp | what's the latest package name for gnome in debian ... I've done an apt-cache search and the list is really long |
| 22:49.51 | abrotman | !g4ltsmite paulswm |
| 22:50.05 | dondelelcaro | !tell drp about install gnome |
| 22:50.06 | comadreja | lilgg install kernel-headers for the kernel you're using |
| 22:50.22 | dondelelcaro | drp: or, if you just want some part of gnome, install that part. |
| 22:50.23 | lilgg | comadreja how do i do that? |
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| 22:50.31 | lilgg | with apt? |
| 22:50.32 | lilgg | ok |
| 22:50.35 | drp | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 22:50.43 | paulswm | !singlishsmite abrotman |
| 22:50.43 | dpkg | abrotman: You damn cock up, ah you! |
| 22:50.48 | PerfDave | lilgg: What VGA drivers are you trying to install? |
| 22:50.49 | comadreja | lilgg : apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-386 or whatever |
| 22:50.52 | abrotman | paulswm: english ? |
| 22:50.54 | Super_Cat_Frog | dondelelcaro - thanks for your help |
| 22:50.55 | lilgg | PerfDave nvidia |
| 22:51.05 | PerfDave | lilgg: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 22:51.08 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i got the mutt problems fixed. damn it looks good now.. you try the latest kernel yet? |
| 22:51.12 | lilgg | k |
| 22:51.14 | PerfDave | lilgg: do *not* use the script from nvidia's site. |
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| 22:51.32 | paulswm | abrotman: SIngapore eNGLISH |
| 22:51.33 | lilgg | okeik |
| 22:52.09 | abrotman | paulswm: right ... kind of like pittsburghese |
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| 22:53.13 | hanjou | how do i change my ip ? |
| 22:53.24 | deadcat | hanjou: ifconfig ethX ip.here. |
| 22:53.33 | PerfDave | hanjou: /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 22:53.42 | paulswm | abrotman: Well, I suppose, it's a mxture of English, Cantonese, Hokkien and Malay |
| 22:53.52 | toonX | what's this cc1: /usr/src/linux-2.6.10/drivers/scsi/a100u2w.c: Permission denied ? i was not expecting this since what i used was something like $/usr/src/linux/make O=/home/user/build/kernel . i hate doing things as root , i kill the sistem too often :) |
| 22:53.53 | hanjou | PerfDave and my gateway ? |
| 22:53.57 | PerfDave | hanjou: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:53.59 | deadcat | hanjou: same file |
| 22:54.04 | abrotman | paulswm: oh . more like kentucky eh ? |
| 22:54.10 | deadcat | hanjou: man 5 interfaces |
| 22:54.14 | paulswm | abrotman: HAHA |
| 22:54.22 | toonX | and then for the modules install i would have logged as root |
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| 22:54.40 | deadcat | toonX: HAHAHAHAHHA. i am still laughing my ass off at you (= |
| 22:54.40 | Phated | paulswm: And occasionally chinese. |
| 22:54.57 | PerfDave | toonX: Are you trying to compile your own kernel? |
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| 22:55.12 | toonX | PerfDave yes |
| 22:55.25 | toonX | deadcat nice to see ya again |
| 22:55.29 | PerfDave | toonX: Why are you not just using a kernel-image package? |
| 22:55.31 | paulswm | Phated: Indeed! |
| 22:55.33 | aedwards | anyone know if there is a channel for amavisd? |
| 22:55.48 | deadcat | toonX: hahah. ask the question here again so we can all get a big laugh at it.. at you hehe |
| 22:55.49 | toonX | PerfDave anyways i did this make O= thing before and it worked |
| 22:55.55 | PerfDave | aedwards: /msg chanserv list *amavis* |
| 22:56.13 | PerfDave | toonX: Why are you not just using a kernel-image package? |
| 22:56.30 | aedwards | thanks |
| 22:56.32 | toonX | PerfDave because i get a lot of stuff i dont really use |
| 22:57.03 | PerfDave | toonX: If you're not using it, it doesn't get loaded. |
| 22:57.11 | deadcat | toonX: do you really need that extra 7MB of space on the system? |
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| 22:57.13 | zepeuga | i've apt-get install webmin, and now i don't know how to use it...in README it says to run "setup.sh" in /usr/share/webmin but i haven't that file |
| 22:57.34 | toonX | deadcat not really, but it's fun |
| 22:57.38 | deadcat | k |
| 22:58.03 | deadcat | toonX: ask the question dammit (= |
| 22:58.09 | PerfDave | toonX: Debian kernel-image packages are highly modular, stuff that isn't needed doesn't get loaded so they're efficient. |
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| 22:59.23 | toonX | deadcat ok i get cc1: /usr/src/linux-2.6.10/drivers/scsi/a100u2w.c: Permission denied while executing make not as root but using it like make O=/home/user/.. , |
| 22:59.25 | PerfDave | Anyway, I'm off to bed :) |
| 22:59.37 | PerfDave | toonX: If you must compile your own kernels, use make-kpkg |
| 22:59.51 | MasterChief | Can someone help me, I cant find my proftpd conf file. Its not in /etc/ |
| 23:00.06 | toonX | PerfDave k i'll try it |
| 23:00.12 | deadcat | toonX: theres your problem. be root. and ya. use make-kpkg, and if you compile. why not get the latest kernel? |
| 23:00.44 | deadcat | MasterChief: dpkg -L proftpd |grep conf |
| 23:01.00 | toonX | deadcat this naver gaved me any problems , not like that 2.6.11 |
| 23:01.10 | deadcat | toonX: stop bitching |
| 23:01.14 | aedwards | I know this is not the channel but I am having no luck in #amavis. |
| 23:01.17 | aedwards | I am trying to use Clamav and I do not have it listed in the amavisd.conf file, can I just add the path to the vscan variable? Will this cause it to break or fail to scan properly? |
| 23:01.36 | toonX | deadcat thank |
| 23:01.54 | deadcat | toonX: no problem. you know i am here to help you! (= |
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| 23:03.43 | abrotman | aedwards: 'it' refers to what ? |
| 23:04.33 | toonX | deadcat i dont have make-kpkg , can i use apt to get it ? / and what's the name of the package |
| 23:04.38 | aedwards | Trend Micro scanner |
| 23:04.51 | deadcat | toonX: kernel-package build-essential |
| 23:05.10 | toonX | deadcat thanks again |
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| 23:07.17 | abrotman | aedwards: while i do not use clamav or know anything about it .. your question is confusing |
| 23:07.25 | aedwards | When I try to send mail it says all scanners fail, which makes sense if I have nothing defined. The problem is the comment in the amavisd.conf says that it is for the Trend Micro Virus scanner. |
| 23:07.27 | abrotman | or seems so .. perhaps because of my lack of knowledge |
| 23:07.46 | aedwards | not ClamAv |
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| 23:10.40 | zepeuga | i've apt-get install webmin, and now i don't know how to use it...in README it says to run "setup.sh" in /usr/share/webmin but i haven't that file |
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| 23:11.23 | Celiun | you know, i wish Debian had better support for SATA |
| 23:11.24 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 23:11.24 | dpkg | hmm... webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 23:11.32 | abrotman | Celiun: which sata controller ? |
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| 23:11.42 | dasunt | I have a pretty unusual situation: I need to boot a laptop using only its floppy drive and an orinoco wireless card. (It probably needs to mount root off of an NFS server). |
| 23:11.46 | dondelelcaro | Debian supports any SATA controller that the kernel supports. |
| 23:11.46 | Celiun | a VIA one, can't remember the exact model |
| 23:11.58 | abrotman | Celiun: so . you dohn't know the model .. and you complain there's no support ? |
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| 23:12.09 | abrotman | and we're supposed to help you with that problem ? |
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| 23:12.27 | abrotman | Celiun: and you didn't tell us which version of the installer you're trying .. or which kernel in that installer |
| 23:12.31 | Celiun | abrotman: Yeah, i know it's unfair that I complain about it |
| 23:12.32 | deadcat | whats "trunk" in terms of X11/ati/xorg? |
| 23:12.38 | zepeuga | abrotman, if not use webmin, what to use ?! plesk or cpanel ? |
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| 23:12.57 | Celiun | didn't expect help anyways, guess I should just shut up |
| 23:13.01 | abrotman | zepeuga: vi/emacs/nvi/joe/sex/vim/$EDITOR |
| 23:13.05 | zepeuga | and don't tell me to use scripts, because webhost companies |
| 23:13.08 | zepeuga | don't use it |
| 23:13.10 | zepeuga | and are safe |
| 23:13.19 | deadcat | abrotman: leafpad |
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| 23:13.40 | abrotman | Celiun: we can't help if you don't give details .. many of us use SATA . myself included |
| 23:13.45 | abrotman | deadcat: frog? |
| 23:13.49 | revelater | does anyone know of anything special that might ned to be doen to connect to the internet with dsl? |
| 23:13.58 | abrotman | pppoe |
| 23:14.04 | deadcat | abrotman: dont know that one. |
| 23:14.10 | abrotman | deadcat: joke about lilypad |
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| 23:14.16 | deadcat | hehe |
| 23:14.51 | zepeuga | abrotman, ... |
| 23:15.09 | abrotman | zepeuga: i use vi/nvi .. and everything works fine for me |
| 23:15.47 | Celiun | But if you really want to know, it's a VIA SATA controller which I do not know the model of, I'm using woody version 30r4? and I don't have any driver cd or floppies with the driver for linux... as I said, tried other linux distros that can detect it just fine and use it, but Debian apparently can't, least not on boot with the installer. Don't expect help, so no need to tell me you can't help |
| 23:16.07 | Celiun | ... did I get cut off? |
| 23:16.12 | abrotman | Celiun: woody doesn't support SATA |
| 23:16.15 | abrotman | !d-i Celiun |
| 23:16.16 | dpkg | Celiun, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 23:16.20 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, when making the diff, should I be in the root of the source-devel or the root of the source-orig ? |
| 23:16.21 | abrotman | dishes are done dude |
| 23:16.32 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: source-devel |
| 23:16.41 | Celiun | well, that explains it, thanks |
| 23:16.48 | abrotman | Celiun: sarge should be released in less than a month .. it supports sata .. i use it many many places |
| 23:16.52 | Celiun | sides, I can probably get it working once I have it install |
| 23:16.56 | Celiun | ed |
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| 23:17.17 | abrotman | afaik .. 2.4.18 doesn't support SATA at all |
| 23:17.33 | abrotman | Celiun: but sarge should support it with no extra work |
| 23:17.46 | Celiun | also, I don't really have the option of getting sarge at the moment :/ |
| 23:17.46 | Celiun | or i would |
| 23:17.49 | zepeuga | abrotman, yeah ?! so how i can limit the space of a user in is public_html/home account with vi ? |
| 23:17.51 | abrotman | Celiun: why not ? |
| 23:17.57 | abrotman | zepeuga: use quotas |
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| 23:18.16 | Celiun | abrotman: out of cds and the comp with the burner is my main comp, which I'm installing Debian on |
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| 23:18.25 | abrotman | !tell zepeuga about quota |
| 23:18.31 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, can you check flood again? |
| 23:18.45 | Celiun | I guess I'll get it once I get debian up and running |
| 23:19.04 | abrotman | no CDRWs ? |
| 23:19.11 | abrotman | Celiun: you have PATA drives also ? |
| 23:19.21 | Celiun | I got a DVD-RW, but no install for any OS's |
| 23:19.32 | Celiun | and yeah, i have and IDE and SATA hdd |
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| 23:19.44 | Celiun | *an |
| 23:19.54 | abrotman | Celiun: erm .. ok .. your PATA will have to be the drive you use to install then .. |
| 23:19.59 | revelater | is the base install enough to make programs? |
| 23:20.13 | abrotman | !b-e revelater |
| 23:20.15 | dpkg | revelater: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
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| 23:20.26 | Celiun | wait, think we have a misunderstanding here, I don't really know what PATA is |
| 23:20.46 | Celiun | ... odd, now DHCP is failing... |
| 23:20.46 | abrotman | Celiun: PATA is old IDE .. like ATA133 etc .. |
| 23:20.47 | revelater | internet doesn't work and i only have the net install cd... |
| 23:20.51 | Celiun | ah |
| 23:21.01 | abrotman | revelater: maybe you should start with your internet |
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| 23:21.14 | Celiun | well, yeah, i wouldn't be able to install if I didn't have a hdd I could boot on |
| 23:21.46 | cxreg | sarge, that is |
| 23:21.51 | revelater | abrotmani tried confiduring it, but i can't get online |
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| 23:22.05 | abrotman | revelater: well .. why not ? .. no device ? |
| 23:22.14 | abrotman | cxreg: why would it be? |
| 23:22.18 | abrotman | !tell revelater about pppoe |
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| 23:22.25 | lilgg | ey guys i did what i had to do with my nvidia but then i get this error now : Fatal server error: |
| 23:22.25 | lilgg | Module load failure |
| 23:22.25 | cxreg | abrotman: all other libraries were mandated to link against 12 |
| 23:22.31 | Celiun | also, thanks for telling me about the Sarge thing |
| 23:22.39 | Celiun | I'll make sure to get it |
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| 23:22.46 | abrotman | !tell Celiun about woody->sarge |
| 23:22.47 | guestish | hi |
| 23:22.49 | revelater | no i can ping the modem |
| 23:22.52 | revelater | or gateway |
| 23:22.52 | guestish | anyone know of any pci-e sound cards? |
| 23:22.57 | abrotman | cxreg: hrm .. ok |
| 23:23.08 | abrotman | revelater: ok .. did you set debian to use it as your gateway ? |
| 23:23.09 | revelater | i can't access the net though |
| 23:23.15 | revelater | yes |
| 23:23.19 | cxreg | abrotman: only apps link against 10 anymore, and that single library... |
| 23:23.27 | abrotman | revelater: you have PPPoE on your router(linksys/etc thingie i assume) |
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| 23:23.28 | Celiun | thanks again |
| 23:23.36 | abrotman | cxreg: file a bug ?.. ask the maintainer ? |
| 23:23.49 | revelater | possibly, so how do i set up pppoe? |
| 23:23.50 | cxreg | think i might, just wondering if it was overlooked or intentionally left alone |
| 23:24.12 | Celiun | sorry if I seem negative, been up little over 20 hours trying to get various distros of linux working... sorry |
| 23:24.23 | abrotman | revelater: is your router a linksys thingie ? |
| 23:24.33 | abrotman | Celiun: you could have asked us before you started :) |
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| 23:24.48 | Celiun | abrotman: yeah, but i didn't think about it until now |
| 23:24.51 | abrotman | heh |
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| 23:25.13 | revelater | looks like one is a belkin and the other a netgear |
| 23:25.22 | abrotman | revelater: ok .. so did you setup dhcp ? |
| 23:25.23 | revelater | not sure which is the modem/router |
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| 23:25.31 | abrotman | !tell revelater about interfaces |
| 23:25.34 | revelater | it uses static ip though |
| 23:26.02 | abrotman | it's ok .. use interfaces file to fix |
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| 23:26.28 | no_dammagE | does the free-java-sdk contain all optional java packages? (javax etc)? |
| 23:26.35 | mjung | hi. i am having trouble with software raid on sarge. the md0 raid is discovered and started automatically, but the md1 device (/dev/md1) does not even exist. any suggestions where to start debugging? |
| 23:26.54 | mhall | How can I perform the equivalent of the stat system call on an inode number instead of a path name? I am trying to optimize some code. |
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| 23:27.06 | revelater | dhclient is running |
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| 23:27.27 | initech | mjung: /etc/raidttab - is it in there at all? |
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| 23:27.52 | Celiun | hm... just a thought, but isn't there a sarge release on DVD? |
| 23:27.53 | exobyte | what happens if a name like foo.local is first resolved with a remote server instead of the local one? will the local one be queried in parallel and the first response used? |
| 23:28.05 | abrotman | Celiun: you could use the sarge-netinst iso on a dvd |
| 23:28.18 | mjung | initech: no. just the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf. I created the raid using debian-installer. |
| 23:28.36 | Celiun | well, guess that's a possibility |
| 23:28.39 | revelater | still not internet though... |
| 23:28.44 | mjung | initech: and di did not create the raidtab. |
| 23:29.12 | initech | mjung: well if it's not in the raidtab, it isn't there. (AFAIK) |
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| 23:30.00 | revelater | ?? |
| 23:30.08 | mjung | initech: but if i assemble the raid manually (mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2) it works fine. |
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| 23:30.19 | abrotman | revelater: paste your /etc/network/interfaces file in #flood |
| 23:31.09 | revelater | abrotman: love to,but that is porblamatic as i cannot access the internet from that computer |
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| 23:31.20 | abrotman | revelater: should be like 5 lines |
| 23:31.27 | abrotman | floppy! |
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| 23:31.35 | revelater | FLOPPY!!! |
| 23:31.35 | no_dammagE | just use pastebin.com if you need to post a listing |
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| 23:32.08 | dob1 | why xfce4 is never updated? |
| 23:32.22 | abrotman | !topicsmite dob1 |
| 23:32.22 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon dob1. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 23:32.43 | cxreg | abrotman: oh, hmh is on top of it anyway, nevermind :-) |
| 23:32.50 | abrotman | ? |
| 23:32.54 | dob1 | abrotman: and ? :) |
| 23:32.59 | abrotman | freeze ? |
| 23:33.15 | dob1 | like kde? |
| 23:33.18 | mikeX | dob1, sarge is frozen, no updates unless for critical bug-fixes |
| 23:33.22 | revelater | abrotmanummm, i can't find a floppy to mount |
| 23:33.37 | dob1 | ok but it is very long time that it is at the 4.0.5 version |
| 23:33.43 | revelater | i mean i can't mount the flopyy cause i can't find the mountpoint |
| 23:33.52 | revelater | whats the mount point? |
| 23:33.53 | dob1 | at least 8 months |
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| 23:34.10 | abrotman | /mnt/floppy |
| 23:34.13 | abrotman | probably |
| 23:34.26 | paulswm | or /mnt, you can mount it wherever you like |
| 23:34.49 | mikeX | dob1, you might wanna catch packages from sid then |
| 23:34.55 | paulswm | if it is aoutomounted, it'll show up in df |
| 23:35.04 | mikeX | revelater, /media/floppy |
| 23:35.31 | paulswm | !singlishsmite abrotman |
| 23:35.32 | dpkg | abrotman: You damn cock up, ah you! |
| 23:35.38 | paulswm | CRAP |
| 23:35.51 | paulswm | It is heavily weighted toward the first one |
| 23:35.51 | revelater | umm, i think i need to format it |
| 23:36.24 | dob1 | mikeX: i have sid too |
| 23:36.31 | mikeX | revelater, if it's unformated you 'll probably get an urecognized file system error |
| 23:36.35 | paulswm | Yes, well it certainly won't mount unformatted |
| 23:36.38 | mikeX | dob1, oh, it's not updated there either? |
| 23:37.06 | dob1 | mikeX: it is at the 4.0.5 version |
| 23:37.07 | revelater | gave me a bunch of errors... |
| 23:37.13 | TwistedEmotions | !test |
| 23:37.14 | dpkg | Sorry, twistedemotions, I didn't get your test. |
| 23:37.21 | revelater | i will just copy manually |
| 23:37.33 | TwistedEmotions | Errr good... then how come my net doesnt work ;) |
| 23:37.40 | TwistedEmotions | what up abrotman |
| 23:37.48 | dob1 | the official release is 4.2 |
| 23:38.02 | dob1 | and it was released at least 4 months ago |
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| 23:38.45 | no_dammagE | a question: is the unstable branch suitable to be used as a desktop system or should I stay on testing? |
| 23:39.41 | Ronin | no_dammagE: if you have to ask testing is your answer |
| 23:39.44 | fruers | Hey, i'm having some troubles with a sarge installation on amd64, it's complaining about not being able to retrieve e2fslibs |
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| 23:39.46 | mikeX | dob1, I guess there should be problems then, look at experimental and at bug reports |
| 23:40.03 | revelater | http://pastebin.com/292967 |
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| 23:40.06 | fruers | I notice that there is no e2fslibs for sarge on amd64, is this what the issue is? |
| 23:40.08 | revelater | go there!!! |
| 23:40.35 | no_dammagE | Ronin: are there serious flaws in unstable? (i don't want to dd my hda7 with null) |
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| 23:40.48 | jetscreamer | hey what chipset for addin sata cotroller card should i buy |
| 23:40.56 | Ronin | no_dammagE: can you fix it when unstable breaks? |
| 23:40.58 | jetscreamer | controller |
| 23:41.17 | revelater | ?!?!?!? |
| 23:41.27 | revelater | !beat revelater |
| 23:41.46 | revelater | !break everything |
| 23:41.49 | no_dammagE | Ronin: if I'm in mood, yes (but I'm not often in mood) ... then testing is my answer, thank you |
| 23:41.55 | revelater | LOL |
| 23:41.59 | paulswm | !singlishsmite revelater |
| 23:42.00 | dpkg | revelater: You all fart and no shit only! |
| 23:42.04 | paulswm | :P |
| 23:42.21 | jetscreamer | or what brand |
| 23:42.31 | revelater | ? |
| 23:42.57 | revelater | !kirk |
| 23:42.58 | dpkg | must... remain... conscious... in.. order.. to.. act.. badly...</captain kirk> |
| 23:43.13 | paulswm | @spocksmite abrotman |
| 23:43.23 | revelater | !khan |
| 23:43.24 | paulswm | night abrotman |
| 23:43.24 | dpkg | methinks khan is the name given to the rulers of the mongol nation, also of the chinese empire after they conquered it., or the name of a very bizarre character in Star Trek II, "The wrath of Khan" |
| 23:43.37 | revelater | lol |
| 23:43.52 | Bazzi | !enterprise |
| 23:43.52 | dpkg | somebody said enterprise was a marketing buzzword which means "big, expensive, complex, and so full of bugs that you require a support contract to keep it running" |
| 23:44.07 | Bazzi | stupid not-geek dpkg :/ |
| 23:44.15 | revelater | !kri |
| 23:44.22 | revelater | !jaffa |
| 23:44.28 | revelater | !tealc |
| 23:44.31 | paulswm | !botabuse |
| 23:44.31 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 23:44.38 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: you want to be one directory above that. |
| 23:44.54 | revelater | !shutup |
| 23:44.55 | dpkg | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 23:44.58 | revelater | lol |
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| 23:45.20 | simonrvn | revelater: do you mind? it's getting annoying |
| 23:45.28 | revelater | yeah ill stop |
| 23:45.34 | afk | does anyone have a hq (preferably ogg q 7+) recording of "Slipknot - Vol 3, The subliminal verses?" Thanks |
| 23:45.36 | revelater | could someone help though |
| 23:45.49 | revelater | ? |
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| 23:46.03 | simonrvn | with? |
| 23:46.09 | revelater | internet |
| 23:46.12 | revelater | not working |
| 23:46.14 | dondelelcaro | afk: uh, we don't do trading in non-freely licensed copyrighted works here. |
| 23:46.14 | drac | I've enabled rivafb framebuffering into kernel, but font looks still same. Where do I define it? |
| 23:46.24 | Guerin | afk: i think you can probably get a lossless one from, say, amazon.com |
| 23:46.33 | drac | Err, font is too big. |
| 23:47.05 | Guerin | like slipknot needs high-quality encoding, too... c'mon |
| 23:47.08 | revelater | i have a pastebin of my interfaces file if anyone wants to see it |
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| 23:47.29 | dondelelcaro | revelater: you'll have to be far more specific than that. What exactly isn't working about it? |
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| 23:47.41 | Gamerscomplete | hi everyone |
| 23:47.53 | revelater | i can ping my gateway, but i can't ping yahoo |
| 23:47.54 | deadcat | hi dr nick |
| 23:48.10 | deadcat | revelater: you dont have internet. |
| 23:48.10 | simonrvn | fucking isk i/o sucks on this box... |
| 23:48.14 | simonrvn | disk* |
| 23:48.16 | mikeX | revelater, what about the dns server? |
| 23:48.17 | Gamerscomplete | is your DNS set up revelater? |
| 23:48.23 | revelater | not sure |
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| 23:48.27 | revelater | should it be? |
| 23:48.36 | Gamerscomplete | and do you have your gateway set up revelater? |
| 23:48.39 | simonrvn | yes |
| 23:48.40 | revelater | yes |
| 23:48.41 | mikeX | revelater, what's your /etc/resolv.conf |
| 23:48.55 | Gamerscomplete | route add default gw IPHERE eth0 |
| 23:49.09 | Gamerscomplete | and yes as mikeX said your dns goes in there |
| 23:49.32 | revelater | um, i have search Belkin |
| 23:49.42 | revelater | nameserver 192.168.2.1 |
| 23:49.46 | Gamerscomplete | ya thats your network |
| 23:49.52 | fruers | Is there a way to fudge an install when the installer complains that it can't download something?? |
| 23:49.52 | revelater | ok |
| 23:49.54 | Gamerscomplete | what does that IP go to? |
| 23:50.00 | revelater | my gateway |
| 23:50.01 | Gamerscomplete | I use my desktop computer as the nameserver |
| 23:50.06 | dondelelcaro | fruers: what can't it download? |
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| 23:50.25 | Gamerscomplete | what is your gateway? A router? |
| 23:50.31 | revelater | not sure |
| 23:50.38 | revelater | i think it is a router/modem |
| 23:50.44 | Celiun | well, getting late, guess I'll figure out the rest tomorrow |
| 23:50.52 | Gamerscomplete | chances are it doesnt have dns set up on it |
| 23:50.58 | Celiun | g'night |
| 23:51.02 | Gamerscomplete | get the DNS addy from your ISP |
| 23:51.16 | revelater | you mean pacbell.net? |
| 23:51.26 | Gamerscomplete | if thats your ISP |
| 23:51.30 | no_dammagE | try to ping an existing IP and ping it instead of the DNS name |
| 23:51.38 | Gamerscomplete | call them up and ask for the DNS address |
| 23:51.52 | no_dammagE | e.g. 216.239.57.99 (google.com) |
| 23:51.58 | Gamerscomplete | ping 216.239.57.99 |
| 23:52.02 | vithos | is there an identd that i can configure to (if no local process is responsible for the connection) ask an identd on another computer behind the same NAT? |
| 23:52.06 | Gamerscomplete | oops dammage got to it before me |
| 23:52.10 | no_dammagE | ;) |
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| 23:52.22 | Gamerscomplete | lol is there anyone that doesnt use google for testing? |
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| 23:52.44 | revelater | works |
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| 23:52.47 | no_dammagE | me - I use my provider's DNS server's IP |
| 23:52.47 | vithos | there's always example.com |
| 23:52.51 | revelater | so i need to setup dns then? |
| 23:52.51 | Gamerscomplete | then its your DNS |
| 23:52.58 | revelater | how do i do that? |
| 23:52.58 | Gamerscomplete | call up your ISP and get your dns IP |
| 23:53.06 | revelater | pacbell.net |
| 23:53.06 | Gamerscomplete | CALL YOUR ISP |
| 23:53.10 | Gamerscomplete | no more questions till you call them |
| 23:53.11 | jetscreamer | ah here's a better question: what s-ata chipsets are supported in d-i |
| 23:53.25 | no_dammagE | no, if the ping works, you'll have to visit your ISP's support page to obtain DNS servers' ip addresses |
| 23:53.26 | jetscreamer | just do ifconfig -a |
| 23:53.46 | revelater | why are all the other computers connected without needing dns? |
| 23:54.02 | Gamerscomplete | perhaps they have the dns configured |
| 23:54.06 | no_dammagE | they obtain the DNS servers over dhcp |
| 23:54.14 | no_dammagE | ... automatically |
| 23:54.25 | dasunt | ... automagically. ;) |
| 23:54.26 | revelater | i have dhcp running... |
| 23:54.27 | Gamerscomplete | ya I prefer automagically but same thing :P |
| 23:54.34 | Gamerscomplete | HA BEAT YOU TO IT |
| 23:54.36 | dasunt | revelater: Does it offer DNS addresses? |
| 23:54.45 | paulswm | *sigh* |
| 23:54.45 | revelater | not sure |
| 23:54.47 | Gamerscomplete | do you have your computer your working on auto detect? |
| 23:55.00 | *** part/#debian toonX (~toonx@253.Red-83-37-146.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:55.01 | revelater | the computer i am working on is a windows server |
| 23:55.02 | Gamerscomplete | ok revelater get on one of the other computers |
| 23:55.08 | revelater | already there |
| 23:55.14 | paulswm | I want to go away, but I can't, it's like passing a traffic accident, you have to look |
| 23:55.22 | Gamerscomplete | check the /etc/resolv.conf |
| 23:55.23 | revelater | lol |
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| 23:55.34 | Gamerscomplete | oh its windose? |
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| 23:55.39 | dasunt | Dangit, I hate it when linux swaps out firefox and I have to wait forever for it to swap in. |
| 23:55.41 | Gamerscomplete | then type in ipconfig /all |
| 23:55.42 | revelater | there are no other linux machines |
| 23:55.51 | Gamerscomplete | in the cmd prompt |
| 23:55.57 | Gamerscomplete | for windose |
| 23:56.00 | no_dammagE | iirc, go to the properties of your network connection |
| 23:56.07 | revelater | ahh |
| 23:56.09 | revelater | there are two |
| 23:56.13 | no_dammagE | there should be a dns entry (on windows) |
| 23:56.13 | Gamerscomplete | it wont be in the properties dammage |
| 23:56.34 | revelater | where do i put the info i now have though |
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| 23:56.37 | qweeq | hi |
| 23:56.38 | Gamerscomplete | did you get it yet revelator? |
| 23:56.41 | revelater | yes |
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| 23:56.46 | no_dammagE | you'll have to call the properties of the interface connected to your modem |
| 23:56.47 | qweeq | anyone running amd 64 bit with debian 64? |
| 23:56.54 | revelater | ? |
| 23:56.57 | Gamerscomplete | k change the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf to that IP you just got |
| 23:57.17 | Gamerscomplete | save it then if it dont work down up your network |
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| 23:57.51 | cthulfuego | qweeq: Used to, any issues? |
| 23:57.54 | nono31 | hi. How do I create a directory uppercase in a vfat partition in linux? |
| 23:58.10 | Gamerscomplete | is it working revelater? |
| 23:58.13 | cthulfuego | nono31: You don't; vfat is sace uinsensitive. |
| 23:58.14 | no_dammagE | mkdir Uppercase or mkdir UPPERCASE |
| 23:58.14 | revelater | WOOOOOOOOOT |
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| 23:58.28 | no_dammagE | revelater: gratz |
| 23:58.29 | revelater | it worked |
| 23:58.32 | cthulfuego | s/sace/case/ |
| 23:58.32 | paulswm | !spellsmite cafuego |
| 23:58.33 | dpkg | cafuego: You have horrific spelling skills. |
| 23:58.38 | Gamerscomplete | lol see your kind of question is about my level of expertise |
| 23:58.51 | fruers | dondelelcaro: I'm doing an amd64 install and it's complaining about gcc-3.3-base |
| 23:58.53 | cthulfuego | paulswm: I just fell out of bed and have - as of yet - not had any coffee. |
| 23:59.02 | nono31 | I have some on upercase (created in windows??) but when I create in linux is always lowercase |
| 23:59.09 | Gamerscomplete | ok damnit I came in here for a question so here it is :P |
| 23:59.09 | WiFiTux | is there an extremely easy how-to to install the ATI 7500 driver? Is there another way instead of the ati rpm? |
| 23:59.16 | paulswm | cthulfuego: Well I'm off the other way, you have a good day buddy |
| 23:59.17 | cthulfuego | nono31: Yes, the driver does that. |
| 23:59.29 | cthulfuego | paulswm: havea guod dye |
| 23:59.29 | nono31 | cthulfuego: no way to bypass that? |
| 23:59.34 | paulswm | Heh |
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| 23:59.59 | Gamerscomplete | I did apt-get install apache and I finnaly got it to install right but now I get "Could not open document config file /etc/apache/modules.conf" what would cause that? |
