| 00:00.25 | mcmay | resiak: E: Couldn't find package kurumin |
| 00:00.26 | rixth | !md5 |
| 00:00.28 | dpkg | d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e |
| 00:00.30 | rixth | !md5sum |
| 00:00.32 | dpkg | d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e |
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| 00:00.36 | resiak | mcmay: No, that wasn't what I was saying. |
| 00:00.52 | Wyzard | emiliano: In Debian, it's in the "dpkg" package... in a Windows jigdo build, it's probably distributed along with jigdo |
| 00:00.52 | resiak | mcmay: Why do you have a woody version of libasound2? |
| 00:00.53 | rixth | !tell emiliano about md5sums |
| 00:01.18 | mcmay | resiak: I'm reviving an old Xebian install on my Xbox. |
| 00:01.23 | rixth | How can I find out what applications are accessing a partition? (I need to unmount it) |
| 00:01.31 | Wyzard | rixth: fuser or lsof |
| 00:01.35 | xsdg | Wyzard: I don't think it is; /me checks |
| 00:01.37 | resiak | !xebian |
| 00:01.37 | dpkg | it has been said that xebian is debian for xbox, probably comletely broken, or yet another not-debian distro |
| 00:01.37 | rixth | Thanks |
| 00:01.42 | resiak | !debian-based |
| 00:01.42 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, Mepis, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. We're supporting Debian, let your distro's support network support it. Ask me about "d-i". |
| 00:01.58 | xsdg | Wyzard: ok; I'm wrong |
| 00:02.01 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 00:02.05 | mcmay | hrm. |
| 00:02.07 | xsdg | Wyzard: probably for debsums, I'd guess then |
| 00:02.09 | resiak | mcmay: We can't really help, but basically that message tells you _exactly_ what you need to know: the version that's being installed is too old. |
| 00:02.21 | xsdg | Wyzard: I know it at least used to have its own package (md5sum, that is) |
| 00:02.24 | Wyzard | xsdg: It should still be in a separate package though |
| 00:02.32 | mcmay | ok. I'll just wipe the whole thing and start with the latest. |
| 00:02.44 | Wyzard | xsdg: I also have a "md5sum.textutils" in the coreutils package... maybe that's the real one, and dpkg diverts it for some reason? |
| 00:02.58 | xsdg | Wyzard: there's probably discussion on debian-devel |
| 00:03.01 | xsdg | Wyzard: hrm... |
| 00:03.07 | takatumi | resiak: how many of the debian-based support groups are you a part of? :P |
| 00:03.12 | emiliano | no, i can't find md5sums |
| 00:03.30 | Wyzard | emiliano: Why do you need to find it? |
| 00:03.36 | xsdg | emiliano: "md5sums"? |
| 00:03.46 | Wyzard | emiliano: You don't need to use it manually as part of doing jigdo stuff |
| 00:03.53 | resiak | takatumi: Erm? |
| 00:04.07 | emiliano | ok |
| 00:04.17 | rixth | God dammit. What the fuck is gam_serve? I'm trying to umount a partition, but I can't becasue gam_serve is accessing it, I kill it and it comes acbk in seconds! |
| 00:04.18 | emiliano | ok ok |
| 00:04.23 | Wyzard | emiliano: It's called "md5sum", btw, not "md5sums" |
| 00:04.30 | emiliano | ok |
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| 00:04.34 | xsdg | rixth: `ps -f` |
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| 00:04.45 | xsdg | rixth: of course, with other options (I'd do ps -axf, myself) |
| 00:04.51 | goodtod | join #jpgraph |
| 00:05.20 | rixth | I just need it to stay dead so I can umount this partition,. |
| 00:05.21 | xsdg | goodtod: "oops" :o) |
| 00:05.39 | xsdg | rixth: oh; killall -KILL gam_serve; umount /partition |
| 00:05.41 | emiliano | i'm learning something new |
| 00:05.47 | goodtod | xsdg: yes sir |
| 00:05.48 | xsdg | rixth: (without the "oh; " part :o) |
| 00:05.58 | goodtod | xsdg: at least it wasn't an ident |
| 00:06.02 | xsdg | heh |
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| 00:06.20 | resiak | takatumi: I'm also in a couple of the "friendly" Debian channels :-) |
| 00:06.28 | takatumi | resiak: :) |
| 00:06.37 | mo1991 | anyone here who is a big debian fan want to tell me why it is so much fater than fedora? It is -btw. Just wondering it seems like in fedora even a minimal install is way bigger than just buiding a debian system |
| 00:06.50 | xsdg | mo1991: "fater"? |
| 00:06.59 | mo1991 | faster |
| 00:07.04 | mo1991 | building |
| 00:07.08 | mo1991 | can't type |
| 00:07.16 | xsdg | oh... no idea; never used fedora |
| 00:07.22 | takatumi | mo1991: less cruft. |
| 00:07.25 | Wyzard | Faster to install, or faster to run? |
| 00:07.28 | resiak | !faster |
| 00:07.31 | mo1991 | faster to run |
| 00:07.31 | xsdg | mo1991: are you comparing on equally-equipped boxes? (j/k :o) |
| 00:07.33 | Blissex|phone | mo1991: by default Fedora installs to wow users with its coolness |
| 00:07.42 | bucky | mo1991, because debian wants people who are on dial up to be able to get debian too |
| 00:07.48 | mo1991 | well, I can't seem to do a package by package install with fedora |
| 00:07.58 | takatumi | Blissex|phone: are you actually on the phone? :) |
| 00:08.17 | mo1991 | I don't mean to install - I just mean that you can do a package by package install that in the end takes less room and runs faster |
| 00:08.21 | Blissex|phone | takatumi: no, I just cant change back my nick because of demented Freenode rules |
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| 00:08.36 | xsdg | mo1991: aah, I think Blissex|phone hit it on the head, then |
| 00:08.36 | takatumi | Blissex|phone: hmm, which rule? |
| 00:08.52 | Blissex | Whee! |
| 00:08.52 | bucky | minimum install about 300MB - install with syslogd and minimum build tools about 800MB |
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| 00:09.09 | Blissex | Hahah. |
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| 00:09.29 | Blissex|phone | takatumi: something about the hand of deity being upon you if you are in channel that requires a registered id ot whatever |
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| 00:09.49 | kaiser | :P |
| 00:09.52 | imutakat | :p |
| 00:10.00 | xsdg | Blissex|phone: heh |
| 00:10.14 | BrianAnthony | is there a program to reconfigure lilo to include the list for W2k |
| 00:10.23 | resiak | BrianAnthony: vim /etc/lilo.conf ? |
| 00:10.29 | Wyzard | Does Debian use NPTL? Running /lib/libc.so.6 mentions Linuxthreads, but no NPTL. |
| 00:10.45 | takatumi | Blissex|phone: oh, ok. :) |
| 00:10.48 | BrianAnthony | resiak: I don't have the knowledge to hand edit the file |
| 00:11.11 | resiak | BrianAnthony: The manual will help? |
| 00:11.18 | resiak | !tell BrianAnthony -about d-r |
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| 00:11.25 | resiak | BrianAnthony: The Debian Reference has a chapter on it. |
| 00:11.45 | Blissex|phone | I can get back to <Blissex> if I exit a set of channels where one cannot change nicks, but curiously the first change of nick is allowed. |
| 00:13.13 | takatumi | !nickometer Blissex|phone |
| 00:13.14 | dpkg | 'Blissex|phone' is 14.000% lame, takatumi |
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| 00:13.26 | takatumi | Blissex|phone: not too bad. live with it for now. :P |
| 00:13.48 | resiak | !nickometer [[[[[[[[[[[[[[F0F |
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| 00:14.15 | xsdg | could you all do the nickometer stuff in privmsg, please? |
| 00:14.21 | resiak | Sorreh. |
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| 00:15.45 | takatumi | \o/ |
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| 00:16.46 | dvs | Wow! Only 17 critical bugs left! Woohoo! |
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| 00:17.27 | stew | dvs: even fewer when you ignore non-free/contrib: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php |
| 00:17.33 | takatumi | was lower yesterday I think. |
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| 00:18.20 | hooopy | man linksys routers smoke pole, they don't have a way to assign the same address to a given mac address |
| 00:18.36 | kingsley | Blissex: I noticed that "xrestop" reports that chunks of memory are attributed to X which correspond the screen size of my terminal, so I suspect that a screen saver or fvwm is leaking. |
| 00:18.46 | rixth | When I setup Debian, it asked me if I wanted to join a domain. I didn't then, but now I do, How can I rerun that script? |
| 00:18.56 | takatumi | hooopy: yeah, it freezes here. |
| 00:19.03 | Blissex | kingsley: background images probably... |
| 00:19.04 | ctmnz | Hello, I have a problem with Totem (the video player) font encoding. I can't find where is the configuration file of Totem. I searched but without success. Is there anybody who knows where is the configuration file with enchoding setings of Totem ? |
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| 00:19.52 | Guerin | rixth: did you install debian or ubuntu? |
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| 00:20.00 | Guerin | rixth: some of us are in both channels, you know. |
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| 00:20.03 | stew | ctmnz: did you check /usr/share/doc/totem for clues? |
| 00:20.08 | takatumi | hooopy: if I try to set it. (but I'm an idiot, it's a linksys wifi card and a d-link router, I constantly mix those up) |
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| 00:20.23 | rixth | Guerin, um =/ yes, um. |
| 00:20.24 | ctmnz | stew, I will check |
| 00:20.28 | ctmnz | tanks |
| 00:20.42 | hooopy | i have never had problems with a d-link router |
| 00:20.46 | Guerin | !kiwismite rixth |
| 00:20.54 | hooopy | they let you do the mac address thing |
| 00:21.01 | REds | dlink ;p |
| 00:21.05 | rixth | Ubuntu :( But the install is practically the same except Ubuntu installs Gnome automatically |
| 00:21.14 | Guerin | rixth: ask #ubuntu |
| 00:21.15 | rixth | Guerin, who added that one? |
| 00:21.17 | hooopy | i should just use my debian box with an aironet 350 as an AP |
| 00:21.33 | Guerin | !factinfo cmd: kiwismite (*.?) |
| 00:21.33 | dpkg | Guerin: there's no such factoid as CMD: kiwismite (*.?) |
| 00:21.39 | Guerin | !factinfo cmd: kiwismite (.*?) |
| 00:21.39 | dpkg | CMD: kiwismite (.*?) -- last modified at Tue May 11 15:11:47 2004 by Guerin!~magpie@220.123.169.71. |
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| 00:22.54 | rixth | Guerin, well then! Sorry guys. |
| 00:23.12 | takatumi | hooopy: after trying to set it, I need to reset it to make it work again. (G604 T) |
| 00:23.58 | hooopy | takatumi, would you have any idea about how to make it to where my debian box requests the same ip address every time it starts up? |
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| 00:24.05 | hooopy | i want to use it for a web server |
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| 00:24.28 | skaught | hooopy: Why don't you just use a static IP and remove it from the DHCP pool that your router assigns? |
| 00:24.41 | takatumi | hooopy: dunno, linksys, on dlink it can be set via the browser. |
| 00:24.50 | hooopy | skaught, because i have absolutely no clue about how to do that |
| 00:25.24 | ctmnz | stew, there is noting which can helps me |
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| 00:25.45 | skaught | hooopy: Well, assigning a static IP to your system is a simple task, easily googleable. The linksys web interface (AFAIR) has a pretty intuitive way of restricting the DHCP pool also |
| 00:26.00 | smoked1 | How do I change the font and stuff for the concole? |
| 00:26.03 | smoked1 | console |
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| 00:26.59 | takatumi | I guess lilo lied about the 20 hours notice. |
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| 00:27.17 | ethics | ctmnz : dpkg -S package name......may give you hints....it lists the installed files i think man dpkg if its not the right -- switch |
| 00:28.01 | Draconicus | I want to modprobe the parallel port. What do I do |
| 00:28.02 | Draconicus | ?* |
| 00:28.37 | dvs | Draconicus: modprobe parport |
| 00:28.46 | Draconicus | Just found it on my own, but thanks. |
| 00:28.56 | dvs | :P |
| 00:29.09 | Draconicus | Um.. |
| 00:29.13 | ctmnz | My onlu problem is "Totem movie player enchoding", everything works fine, onlu my subtitles are visible with wrong enchoding. I found where is the configuration file fo xine, I changed i that plase and on xine subtitles work. But I want find configuration file for Totem ... somethig like ~/.xine/config. do you understand me ? |
| 00:29.39 | Draconicus | Okay... I need to see if there's actually a connection. How can I detect activity, so to speak, with modprobe? |
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| 00:29.48 | Draconicus | I remember modprobing my USB mouse and seeing lots of action. |
| 00:30.02 | dvs | Draconicus: tail -f /var/log/messages |
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| 00:30.08 | blitzrage | hey, anyone happen to know the link for that site which tells people to turn off their auto-away messages? |
| 00:30.31 | dvs | blitzrage: /msg dpkg away |
| 00:30.51 | Draconicus | Yeah.. |
| 00:30.53 | blitzrage | dvs: much obliged! |
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| 00:31.16 | ctmnz | /j totem |
| 00:31.29 | Draconicus | ... |
| 00:31.37 | torgrimt_ | cd /var/adm/xxx |
| 00:31.41 | resiak | dvs: Except it doesn't have any links. |
| 00:31.47 | Draconicus | dvs: That... doesn't really tell me anything. |
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| 00:32.15 | Draconicus | tail -f /var/log/messages, that is. |
| 00:32.17 | dvs | Draconicus: You should see something when your modprobe the parallel port |
| 00:32.28 | Draconicus | Err... |
| 00:33.03 | Draconicus | But now there's "Jun 1 20:31:56 localhost last message repeated 60 times" on several lines, and no input thing... |
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| 00:33.16 | resiak | Draconicus: `dmesg` |
| 00:34.16 | Draconicus | resiak: "VFS: busy inodes on changed media."(5^10)? |
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| 00:34.46 | resiak | Draconicus: Oh. |
| 00:35.13 | Draconicus | ... |
| 00:35.14 | Draconicus | ? |
| 00:35.20 | resiak | ... ! |
| 00:35.33 | resiak | Draconicus: Sorry, I can't really hang around much, it was just a passing comment. |
| 00:35.33 | abrotman | ... , |
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| 00:35.53 | Draconicus | I know you hate explaining crap, but I've been going through hell today and CANNOT think. |
| 00:36.23 | Draconicus | abrotman: How to actively probe parport and see changing results (if the hardware on the port cooperates)? |
| 00:36.51 | abrotman | modprobe parport .. while `tail -f /var/log/dmesg` |
| 00:37.12 | dvs | Draconicus: Do the tail thing first in a different window |
| 00:37.22 | Draconicus | OH. |
| 00:37.29 | Draconicus | That helps. |
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| 00:38.45 | Draconicus | Well, I still didn't get what I wanted, but I found something as good. |
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| 00:39.14 | InnocenT | nabend |
| 00:39.14 | Draconicus | "parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. | parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP,DMA]" |
| 00:39.39 | InnocenT | anyone from germany ? |
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| 00:40.13 | Draconicus | I think that's evidence enough to support the notion that my soft-wired (no solder) SNES controller is present on the parallel port. Yes? |
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| 00:40.33 | Draconicus | Sorry InnocenT, not me. |
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| 00:40.56 | dvs | Draconicus: Well, you have to load that driver too. |
| 00:41.05 | Draconicus | dvs: I'm having trouble with that. |
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| 00:41.18 | behrouz2005 | i seriously need help with debian linux |
| 00:41.20 | dvs | Draconicus: Sorry, I don't know which one that is. |
| 00:41.27 | Draconicus | "FATAL: Error inserting gamecon (/lib/modules/2.6.8-1-686/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/gamecon.ko): No such device" |
| 00:41.52 | behrouz2005 | i'm getting a via68a error |
| 00:41.58 | behrouz2005 | and my gui doesn't run |
| 00:42.03 | behrouz2005 | guessin they r related |
| 00:42.15 | behrouz2005 | think linux cant detect my video card |
| 00:42.17 | behrouz2005 | need help |
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| 00:42.29 | Draconicus | I know there's a "!u". Is there a "!r"? |
| 00:42.31 | Draconicus | !r |
| 00:42.31 | dpkg | from memory, r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE" YOU MORONS! |
| 00:42.37 | Draconicus | Hehe. |
| 00:43.06 | ethics | behrouz2005, easy on the enters....what is the gui error message? its next to the EE part at he log end normally |
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| 00:43.50 | behrouz2005 | i think linux cant detect my video card |
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| 00:43.52 | ethics | Draconicus, thers an enter one too 8) |
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| 00:44.00 | Draconicus | dvs: Does that message mean that the module isn't functioning, or that the device the module is trying to work with has failed? |
| 00:44.03 | Draconicus | !enter |
| 00:44.03 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help. |
| 00:44.09 | Draconicus | Oooh. :D |
| 00:44.13 | ethics | behrouz2005, whats the error? |
| 00:44.14 | behrouz2005 | is there anyway i could go back n change the settings, caus i chose ati as my video card |
| 00:44.15 | snelson | !tell me about setup x |
| 00:44.18 | DV8 | dataw0lf |
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| 00:44.22 | dvs | Draconicus: It means the parallel port is working |
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| 00:44.31 | arango | I need a set of cheap set of 5.1 speakers with digital input, any suggestions ? |
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| 00:44.41 | d22 | I am having problems applying patch to my kernel, I am trying patch -p1 < linux-2.6.9-scsi-ioctl-overflow.patch but it gives me an error: "can't find file to patch at input line 3", the paths in the patch file seems to be correct |
| 00:44.46 | ethics | !tell behrouz2005 about drxx |
| 00:44.59 | Draconicus | dvs: Um... "FATAL: Error inserting gamecon (/lib/modules/2.6.8-1-686/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/gamecon.ko): No such device" means the parallel port is working? |
| 00:45.22 | dvs | Draconicus: I never saw that message |
| 00:45.24 | ethics | Draconicus, joysticks dont use parallel ports |
| 00:45.26 | d22 | my patch file starts with this: |
| 00:45.27 | d22 | --- 1/drivers/block/scsi_ioctl.c 2005-01-05 09:40:26 -0500 |
| 00:45.27 | d22 | +++ linux-2.6.9/drivers/block/scsi_ioctl.c 2005-01-05 09:40:01 -0500 |
| 00:45.38 | behrouz2005 | the erros's along the lines of via68a |
| 00:45.42 | behrouz2005 | restoring chip |
| 00:45.43 | ethics | unless the db15 used on soundcards is parralel |
| 00:45.55 | d22 | I have the file and path correct after +++ and I am starting the patch command from top of linux-2.6.9 |
| 00:46.34 | behrouz2005 | i've installed linux and it runs, but my gui doesn't run think thas caus linux cant detect my video card, i dont have a video card its integrated into the mother board |
| 00:47.12 | ethics | behrouz2005, read dpkg message about how to reconfigure.....use VESA as video driver |
| 00:47.40 | behrouz2005 | where can i find dpkg message |
| 00:47.41 | dvs | behrouz2005: lspci | grep Display |
| 00:47.50 | ethics | ok read this !drxx |
| 00:47.51 | Draconicus | ethics: Try again. I made this SNES parallel port controller. It's common practice for old controllers like NES, SNES, DB9. etc. Five wires, usually. |
| 00:47.57 | ethics | !drxx |
| 00:47.58 | dpkg | somebody said drxx was dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
| 00:47.59 | dvs | 1drxx Draconicus |
| 00:48.02 | Draconicus | ethics: http://stu.westga.edu/~thendri2/projects/snes.html |
| 00:48.03 | dvs | arch! |
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| 00:48.53 | ethics | Draconicus, ahh custom....cool...i always wanted to make my own joystick hehehe ive done ir remotes before 8) |
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| 00:49.12 | Draconicus | dvs: I'm lost... Please... brain... failing... |
| 00:49.38 | DV8 | hey dataw0lf |
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| 00:49.45 | behrouz2005 | i'm lost |
| 00:49.50 | erps | I have two IPs on the same server. I have bind working for one of the two IPs, but can't seem to get it to work for the second IP. Any idea what I'm doing wrong/missing? How should I set it to listen to both IPs? I thought it was supposed to listen to all IPs automatically - but it doesn't seem to be. |
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| 00:50.04 | nonoo | I screwed up a setting when I was configuring my x-windows-system-core, is there a command to reinstall or reconfigure it? |
| 00:50.06 | ethics | Draconicus, ill bookmark that for my new found some time to waste on PCs list |
| 00:50.14 | dvs | Draconicus: I can't help you. Especially with a custom project like that! |
| 00:50.19 | behrouz2005 | where can i find out how to reconfigure |
| 00:50.22 | NOthsouth | can I have help with cron?, my crond is not running |
| 00:50.28 | NOthsouth | i have no crond here |
| 00:50.39 | ethics | behrouz20005 read what DPKG |
| 00:50.39 | Draconicus | dvs: I'm just trying to understand common app outputs, such as modprobe ones. |
| 00:50.43 | NOthsouth | how did i instal that? .. because my crontab -e is not working |
| 00:50.43 | ethics | !drxx |
| 00:50.43 | dpkg | methinks drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
| 00:51.25 | dvs | Draconicus: modprobe will enable the interface, but it won't help with communication to it. |
| 00:51.43 | Draconicus | Right. However, I'm hitting errors even in modprobe. |
| 00:51.52 | Draconicus | Actually insmod, I guess. |
| 00:52.03 | dvs | !insmod |
| 00:52.04 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 00:52.35 | Draconicus | Well, modprobe utilizes insmod, and nothing else, in this case. |
| 00:52.44 | dataw0lf | DV8: ? |
| 00:52.57 | behrouz2005 | methinks drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! ---- not sure what this exactly means |
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| 00:53.20 | Draconicus | Huston, we have a moron. |
| 00:53.28 | ethics | Draconis: parralel ports are legacy so you may need to specify 378,7,3 etc....for ports |
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| 00:53.44 | ethics | any options available on the modprobe? |
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| 00:53.55 | Draconicus | No... I'm not sure what you mean by options. |
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| 00:54.14 | dataw0lf | Draconicus: 'Huston' ? |
| 00:54.20 | dataw0lf | Good way to prove your point. |
| 00:54.27 | Draconicus | I dunno. |
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| 00:54.37 | Draconicus | Again, brain is sleeping mostly. |
| 00:54.50 | Draconicus | "Huston, we have a problem." is a rather famous phrase.. |
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| 00:55.02 | dvs | Draconicus: But it's spelled "Houston" |
| 00:55.04 | behrouz2005 | so should i run this commmand "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" in root? i'm not sure even how to get into root, sorry but i'm new to linux |
| 00:55.06 | Draconicus | OH. |
| 00:55.08 | ethics | Draconicus, well on some device drivers they need to be told memory addresses etc thorugh aliases |
| 00:55.08 | Draconicus | I didn't know that. |
| 00:55.10 | dataw0lf | Retard. |
| 00:55.13 | reamtS | what package is 'startx' in? |
| 00:55.25 | Guerin | reamtS: x-window-system-core |
| 00:55.28 | Draconicus | That's a bit harsh. I don't spend my time spelling the names of state capitals. |
| 00:55.29 | resiak | reamtS: Do you mean "how do I start X?"? |
| 00:55.32 | ethics | behrouz2005, yeah log in as roo type that command |
| 00:55.40 | dvs | Draconicus: Austin is the capitol of Texas |
| 00:55.43 | Draconicus | ... |
| 00:55.43 | ethics | */t |
| 00:55.45 | Draconicus | Ugh. |
| 00:55.46 | dataw0lf | Man. |
| 00:55.50 | dataw0lf | You might as well just leave. |
| 00:55.52 | nonoo | how can I change my mouse settings for X? |
| 00:55.55 | resiak | !drxx nonoo |
| 00:55.56 | dataw0lf | That's bash.org worthy right there. |
| 00:55.56 | dpkg | nonoo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 00:55.56 | reamtS | Guerin: thx |
| 00:56.08 | Guerin | dvs: and the capital, too |
| 00:56.22 | dvs | Guerin: :-P |
| 00:56.30 | Draconicus | ANYWAY... |
| 00:56.35 | behrouz2005 | how do i get into the root |
| 00:56.44 | DV8 | Draconicus, which version of debian are you using? |
| 00:56.48 | dvs | behrouz2005: su - |
| 00:56.58 | Draconicus | 2.4.6 |
| 00:56.59 | ethics | behrouz2005, do you have a keyboard there by chance and maybee a monitor? |
| 00:56.59 | behrouz2005 | thanks a lot guys |
| 00:57.04 | Draconicus | err |
| 00:57.06 | Draconicus | Sarge. |
| 00:57.10 | Draconicus | God... can't think tonight. |
| 00:57.20 | DV8 | my insmod isn't modprobe |
| 00:57.22 | behrouz2005 | no i'm typin with my mouse |
| 00:57.25 | behrouz2005 | lol |
| 00:57.51 | ethics | behrouz2005, hehe if your already in the su <enter> will swap you to the super user.....dont run as root normally only when you need to change configs etc |
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| 00:57.56 | kelan | anyone know why the inkscape package recommends sketch? |
| 00:58.05 | Draconicus | There must be low oxygen in this room or something... despite the fact that the window is open... |
| 00:58.20 | Draconicus | Back to the original topic.... |
| 00:58.35 | ethics | kelan: because they work with each other.....it's nto a requirement its just something you probably would use with it |
| 00:58.53 | ethics | in cyberspace you breath electrons... |
| 00:59.13 | Draconicus | If insmod (modprobe, whatever) returns "no such device", does it mean that the module is somehow not detected, or does it mean that the device the module relates to is not detected? |
| 00:59.23 | Guerin | dvs: the latter |
| 00:59.34 | ethics | no detection |
| 00:59.37 | kelan | ethics: the description for sketch says its an interactive vector drawing program. i thought thats what inkscape is. why would i need both? |
| 01:00.03 | dvs | Guerin: Huh? What were we talking about again? |
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| 01:00.33 | dvs | Draconicus: I also could mean that the modules it depends on are not loaded |
| 01:00.38 | Guerin | ah, my bad |
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| 01:00.42 | Guerin | Draconicus: ^^^ |
| 01:00.45 | TwistedEmotions | Damn... just deleted my pron on accident... all 1 file... gotta restart now. |
| 01:00.45 | ethics | kelen: you dont.......recommended and required are 2 words..... inkscape and sketch are related somehow ...maybee same engines? |
| 01:01.00 | snelson | I need help forcing a 1040x768 resolution with sarge, can anyone help? |
| 01:01.12 | ethics | TwistedEmotions, furrywolf has more for you if you like em fuzzy |
| 01:01.12 | resiak | !drxx snelson |
| 01:01.13 | dpkg | snelson: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 01:01.13 | dvs | !drxx snelson |
| 01:01.18 | dvs | arch! |
| 01:01.37 | TwistedEmotions | ethics: Not his kinda fuzzy... |
| 01:01.45 | snelson | !dpkg tried no luck |
| 01:01.58 | ethics | TwistedEmotions, heheh there a factiod with a link of his i think hehe |
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| 01:02.06 | resiak | snelson: Define "no luck". |
| 01:02.07 | ethics | cant remember the trigger tho |
| 01:02.15 | snelson | !drxx |
| 01:02.15 | dpkg | drxx is, like, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
| 01:02.18 | kelan | ethics: yeah maybe i should have said 'why would i use both'. i understand the recommends tag. i guess i'll install it anyway. not like i'm hurting for disk space. thanks |
| 01:02.21 | nicodein | how to get the name of the device for a mp3 player connected via usb ? dmesg tells me nothing about it |
| 01:02.26 | TwistedEmotions | !list |
| 01:02.26 | dpkg | one warez list being sent |
| 01:02.32 | TwistedEmotions | Weeee... |
| 01:02.33 | kelan | whats with all the drxx'ing? |
| 01:02.39 | TwistedEmotions | !list commands |
| 01:02.45 | ethics | kelan: it could just be another gui for it...gtk and qt maybee |
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| 01:02.48 | TwistedEmotions | Errr... some shit like that.. |
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| 01:03.06 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: You don't list dpkg's commands. |
| 01:03.15 | resiak | !my factoids |
| 01:03.15 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. |
| 01:03.22 | snelson | !dpkg no luck meaning I only selected 1040x768 and it still does 800x600, also I have manually edited XF86Config-4 file |
| 01:03.28 | TwistedEmotions | resiak: you can... I foget how... there is a search command... |
| 01:03.28 | resiak | !xmd5 |
| 01:03.28 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 01:03.31 | ethics | kelan, lots of xserver reconfigures...and sarge release soon was on slashdot so i guess people are loading to see it |
| 01:03.33 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: listkeys foo |
| 01:03.36 | resiak | TwistedEmotions: /msg dpkg help |
| 01:03.38 | TwistedEmotions | ohhh |
| 01:03.42 | TwistedEmotions | there we go |
| 01:03.51 | TwistedEmotions | !listkeys furrywolf |
| 01:03.52 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'furrywolf' by key (1): furrywolf's dirty hobby. |
| 01:04.07 | TwistedEmotions | !furrywolf's dirty hobby |
| 01:04.08 | dpkg | hmm... furrywolf's dirty hobby is http://www.peselectro.com/PESMainGreetingsPage.asp |
| 01:04.14 | TwistedEmotions | hahah there we go ;) |
| 01:04.19 | ethics | TwistedEmotions, hehe yep thats it |
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| 01:04.39 | resiak | !tell hlen about unrar |
| 01:04.43 | behrouz2005 | how do i find out my video card's bus indentifier |
| 01:05.00 | TwistedEmotions | ? |
| 01:05.02 | ethics | behrouz2005, just press enter ...no entry required |
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| 01:05.23 | behrouz2005 | oh k how about the memory that my card uses |
| 01:05.31 | Draconicus | Okay... starting over: How can I see if there is activity on the parallel port, or at least a detected piece of hardware? |
| 01:05.48 | ethics | behrous onboard video you say? |
| 01:06.01 | resiak | !tell ethics -about nicktab |
| 01:06.06 | resiak | behrouz2005: You can leave it blank. |
| 01:06.12 | behrouz2005 | oh right |
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| 01:06.39 | resiak | Hence why it says you can. You are reading, aren't you? |
| 01:06.46 | resiak | Woah, I intended to go to bed. |
| 01:06.50 | TwistedEmotions | damn its hot in my room |
| 01:06.55 | ethics | resiak, hehe yeah habits i should learn |
| 01:07.08 | resiak | ethics: It's not just a habit, it's a massive time-saver. |
| 01:07.30 | behrouz2005 | how would i go from root to user mode |
| 01:07.44 | resiak | behrouz2005: exit<CR> |
| 01:07.49 | resiak | behrouz2005: Or ctrl-D for short. |
| 01:07.54 | ethics | resiak, yeah true...i tend to tab more when on linux boxen...im on xp box so i fear tab may BSoD me heheheh |
| 01:07.55 | sepen | behrouz2005: su <user> |
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| 01:08.00 | Draconicus | I'm guessing I've lost any respect previously received and have become nothing more than an annoyance, huh? |
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| 01:08.11 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i am sweating like a pig. |
| 01:08.16 | ethics | resiak, ill try to remember to do it tho.. |
| 01:08.20 | deadcat | 82deg. here. |
| 01:08.21 | resiak | ethics: You can tab at the WinXP cmd.exe too. |
| 01:08.28 | ethics | behrouz2005, exit |
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| 01:08.38 | ethics | resiak, hmm never tried hehe |
| 01:08.56 | ethics | resiak, wow only xp or 2k can do it? |
| 01:09.10 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: sounds stasty... |
| 01:09.11 | TwistedEmotions | *tasty |
| 01:09.11 | resiak | ethics: You can even bind different keys to tabbing for directories and files, if you're that insane. |
| 01:09.17 | deadcat | hahaah |
| 01:09.24 | resiak | ethics: Right. It's not enabled by default in win2k's cmd.exe. |
| 01:09.30 | kingsley | After upgrading fvwm, my customized desktop is gone. Is there an easy way to retrieve it? |
| 01:10.07 | ethics | resiak, i think im moderate insane so just tab works hehe.... any clues how to enable on 2k...or i could goole if your not remembering |
| 01:10.27 | xtension | ethics #debian |
| 01:10.30 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: this weather sucks my nuts. |
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| 01:11.14 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: did you get kismet running? |
| 01:11.27 | resiak | ethics: And the last word on this is RTFM. |
| 01:11.29 | resiak | </ot> |
| 01:11.29 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: kinda... 1/2 way... |
| 01:11.30 | snelson | !dpkg drxx gives an command not found error |
| 01:11.31 | dpkg | gives an command not found error: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 01:11.32 | ethics | xtension, its the channel your in right now.... |
| 01:11.33 | Draconicus | kismet is hungarian for luck, and also the name of my cat. |
| 01:11.43 | ethics | xtension, dpkg is a bot im human |
| 01:11.56 | deadcat | HHAHAHA |
| 01:11.56 | resiak | snelson: Run it as root? |
| 01:12.01 | ethics | resiak, cool a google i will go 8) |
| 01:12.04 | xtension | ethics go google |
| 01:12.14 | snelson | !resiak Yes I did |
| 01:12.22 | ethics | xtension, hehe ....too late |
| 01:12.44 | resiak | snelson: Stop prefixing with ! |
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| 01:12.53 | snelson | sorry, new to irc |
| 01:12.57 | Draconicus | ... |
| 01:13.00 | resiak | snelson: What version of Debian are you using? |
| 01:13.01 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I got config file running correctly but I dont know how to set my card to "Monitor" mode... so when I run it I get error FATAL: channel get ioctl failed 95:Operation not supported |
| 01:13.08 | snelson | newest sarge |
| 01:13.19 | Draconicus | How can I see if there is activity on the parallel port, or at least a detected piece of hardware on it? |
| 01:13.40 | resiak | snelson: How are you becoming root? |
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| 01:13.47 | behrouz2005 | sweet, i have my gui running now YES, does linux have a browser |
| 01:13.48 | ethics | drac, you should be able to cat /dev/XXXX and get something when you press stuff.... |
| 01:13.53 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: /etc/kismet/kismet.conf and look for source |
| 01:13.55 | snelson | I have tried sudo -s as well as su |
| 01:14.05 | ethics | Draconicus, ^^^ |
| 01:14.10 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Either I need to upgrade/change my driver of my card really doesnt support monitor mode |
| 01:14.10 | Draconicus | ethics: THANK YOU. That's the thing I was trying to remember. |
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| 01:14.18 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you want: source=orinoco,eth1,orinocosource |
| 01:14.25 | Draconicus | Ten minutes of humiliation and driving myself mad... erg... |
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| 01:14.29 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh right. you do need to do that (= |
| 01:14.36 | ethics | Draconicus, hehe np....i do it alot...tvtuner hehe |
| 01:14.48 | resiak | snelson: su; enter your password. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86; it works. |
| 01:14.48 | Lightning | any reason to still have a swap with 2gb mem, and, how good is grub for boot? or go with lilo? |
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| 01:15.19 | Draconicus | Err... what's the device pointing to the parallel port? |
| 01:15.23 | Draconicus | parport is a module. |
| 01:15.29 | Guerin | Lightning: grub is better than lilo in most cases. Re swap: depends. If you don't know why you need swap with 2G ram, you don't need it. |
| 01:15.30 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: already looked like that except source=orinoco,eth1,add me... changed it |
| 01:15.35 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: apt-get the kernel-headers-`uname -r` first. also build-essential |
| 01:15.49 | resiak | 12 |
| 01:15.53 | resiak | !lart me |
| 01:16.00 | snelson | I should mention I have an old card, an S3Virge, will that make a difference? |
| 01:16.10 | behrouz2005 | does linux debian has an internet browser |
| 01:16.15 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: then CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z3 -d:ext:anoncvs@savannah.nongnu.org:/cvsroot/orinoco co orinoco |
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| 01:16.30 | resiak | snelson: Yeah, it probably will. |
| 01:16.30 | resiak | !s3 |
| 01:16.30 | dpkg | Tried, tested, and reliable cards.</sarcasm>, or <abrotman> the cards suck ..bad .. like waking up next to your mother after a hard night of drinking <pipeline> I disagree. ... It's more like coming-to ON TOP of your mother. |
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| 01:16.51 | Lightning | have an amd64 net install and /dists/sarge/main doesnt have a binary-amd64 dir |
| 01:17.03 | Draconicus | lp0. |
| 01:17.04 | abrotman | why is it always my fault ? |
| 01:17.29 | Kvant | behrouz2005, try mozilla-browser |
| 01:17.29 | deadcat | abrotman: baseball game? giants vs phillies. giants suck, like always |
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| 01:17.32 | snelson | ok, also I have an old sound card SB16 also not detected any ideas for that? |
| 01:17.36 | abrotman | deadcat: bosox! |
| 01:17.43 | resiak | !faq snelson |
| 01:17.44 | dpkg | snelson: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 01:17.59 | snelson | !faq |
| 01:17.59 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 01:18.03 | abrotman | !isapnp |
| 01:18.03 | dpkg | hmm... isapnp is a nifty utility that lets you configure your ISA PnP cards (which themselves are evil) in linux, or apt-get install isapnptools then pnpdump |
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| 01:20.31 | dx | i got a serious problem, i tried to mount 2 new harddiscs, but when i boot now it says "Error loading operating system", i've tried (in bios) to force it to boot on that harddisc where debian is installed, and i've formatet and currently there are no partitions on the new harddiscs only on that one which i want to boot from, but it keep saying "Error loading operating system", can i solve it without loosing my current installation? (a bit |
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| 01:21.18 | scarynetworkguy | dx: What are your drives jumpered too? |
| 01:21.26 | dx | cable |
| 01:21.37 | dx | debian is installed on hdc |
| 01:21.40 | abrotman | errorloading OS ? .. do you have an OS installed on any drives ? |
| 01:21.41 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Because your a useless bitch? |
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| 01:21.53 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: make me fucking kill you .. you you you .. network guy! |
| 01:21.56 | dx | abrotman yea it worked before i tried to mount the new discs |
| 01:21.58 | scarynetworkguy | dx: I *hate* cable select. Jumper them properly. |
| 01:22.13 | dx | scarynetworkguy ok, i can give it a try |
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| 01:22.16 | abrotman | god hates cable select |
| 01:22.16 | technos | dx: Did either of the new drives go on a SATA bus? Some boards treat SATA-0 as IDE-0 when there is a drive on it. |
| 01:22.16 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Bah. I have mad leet network ninja skillz. |
| 01:22.25 | Draconicus | Whoa... Just did cat /dev/hdb, and stopped it in such a way that it scrambled my terminal. o.o |
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| 01:22.28 | dx | technos it's all old IDE |
| 01:22.35 | caphuso | Draconicus: run reset |
| 01:22.35 | toresbe | Draconicus: type reset. |
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| 01:22.48 | Draconicus | Interesting. |
| 01:23.22 | technos | dx: Then it's probably a jumpering problem like abrotman said. One of the new drives has usurped the position your old drive is on, either from confusing it with cable select or just plain being jumpered the same. |
| 01:23.48 | Draconicus | Also, lp0 is supposed to return activity, since I have my controller thing on it. I get "input/output error". Does this mean that there was a general problem communicating, or that it just isn't there? |
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| 01:24.32 | snelson | still didnt do it |
| 01:24.49 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Where do I run the CVS command...? |
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| 01:25.22 | astronut | anyone else have their numpad break in sid? |
| 01:25.30 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: CVS_RSH=ssh: command not found. |
| 01:25.37 | behrouz2005 | i have the lftp, lynx, mutt, telnet and xbiff applications, are there any instructions or applications where i could download something |
| 01:26.03 | TwistedEmotions | behrouz2005: Salam chetori... |
| 01:26.23 | snelson | resiak: reconfigured as root, still only have the 800 x 600 resolution |
| 01:26.32 | behrouz2005 | khoobam shoma chetor hastin |
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| 01:26.49 | TwistedEmotions | behrouz2005: man <program> will show you a manual for the program... also man apt... will show you everything you need to download whatever program. |
| 01:26.52 | Draconicus | It's a simple question... I just can't readily find an answer. |
| 01:27.19 | resiak | !xmd5 |
| 01:27.19 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 01:27.23 | resiak | snelson: ^^ did you do that? |
| 01:27.26 | behrouz2005 | alright thanks |
| 01:27.38 | TwistedEmotions | behrouz2005: haha gangster... Persians own ;) apt-cache search <program> then when you find a program that you want apt-get install <program> |
| 01:28.20 | snelson | resiak: No such file or directory |
| 01:28.52 | Draconicus | ... |
| 01:29.09 | resiak | snelson: Oh, that's just great. You couldn't say to what that error was, could you? I'll use my psychic powers, then. |
| 01:29.12 | Draconicus | Also, lp0 is supposed to return activity, since I have my controller thing on it. I get "input/output error". Does this mean that there was a general problem communicating, or that it just isn't there (connection problem)? |
| 01:29.17 | Draconicus | err.. |
| 01:29.26 | Draconicus | Minus the Also. |
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| 01:29.47 | snelson | resiak: diff: /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum: No such file or directory |
| 01:30.01 | snelson | resiak: that better? |
| 01:30.33 | dx | technos, it says the same when i unplug the 2 other harddiscs and only left the Debian disc back :( |
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| 01:30.53 | dondelelcaro | snelson: then proceed on to the second step. |
| 01:30.54 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: How do I run the CVS thing? |
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| 01:32.33 | cr3 | I have just installed Debian Woody 30r2 for the first time, but I am already familiar with Fedora. The problem is that when I boot, I get a Debian X login prompt but my keyboard and mouse don't work at that moment. I rebooted in single user mode and tried to set the default sysinit level to 3 in my inittab, but that didn't fix the problem. What else should I try? |
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| 01:32.46 | Lightning | finally! amd64 installing without the cd, over the net |
| 01:33.10 | Draconicus | cr3: Are you using a PS/2 keyboard, or a USB keyboard? |
| 01:33.31 | cr3 | Draconicus: PS2 keyboard and USB mouse. |
| 01:33.43 | Draconicus | Hmm.. I dunno, then. |
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| 01:33.58 | DV8 | hey dataw0lf |
| 01:33.58 | resiak | !d-i cat |
| 01:33.58 | nonoo | Im trying to use Cgywin to get an xterm on my fresh debian install and Im having problems, cgywin works when connected to my school shell account, but I can't seem to get an xterm when I connect to my box, it says xterm Xt error: Can't open display: xterm: DISPLAY is not set |
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| 01:33.58 | john | what did you configure your mouse and keyboard too? |
| 01:33.59 | dpkg | cat, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:34.01 | resiak | cat: Sorry. |
| 01:34.04 | resiak | !d-i cr3 |
| 01:34.04 | dpkg | cr3, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:34.10 | cr3 | Draconicus: good call though, I can imagine a USB keyboard probably causing problems or requiring additional configuration. |
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| 01:34.32 | behrouz2005 | what is the command to download something, |
| 01:34.35 | Draconicus | I really... really need an answer... |
| 01:34.40 | john | behrouz2005: apt-get install ? |
| 01:34.43 | nonoo | From my debian box I can ssh to my school shell account and get an xterm |
| 01:34.46 | TwistedEmotions | behrouz2005: What are you looking to download? |
| 01:34.47 | cr3 | behrouz: like, wget? |
| 01:34.47 | DV8 | wget something |
| 01:34.48 | john | wget file? |
| 01:34.55 | john | lol |
| 01:35.00 | resiak | !sshx |
| 01:35.00 | dpkg | [sshx] Enable X11Forwarding **on the server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
| 01:35.11 | astronut | what's the tool to configure modules that load on boot? |
| 01:35.21 | snelson | dondelelcaro: when restarting X it goes to 1040x768 res for about 1 sec, then the screen flashes and back to 800 x 600 |
| 01:35.27 | resiak | astronut: echo modulename >> /etc/modules |
| 01:35.30 | Draconicus | nonoo: Lucky you. |
| 01:35.35 | behrouz2005 | wanted to download a good gui |
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| 01:35.39 | nonoo | lucky me indeed |
| 01:35.43 | nonoo | hopefully its as easy as it sounds |
| 01:35.48 | TwistedEmotions | behrouz2005: apt-cache search <whatever you want to download>... it will spit back a bunch of package names back at you... apt-get install <package> |
| 01:35.59 | TwistedEmotions | !xserver |
| 01:36.02 | TwistedEmotions | ? |
| 01:36.15 | behrouz2005 | sweeeeet |
| 01:36.19 | Draconicus | I feel dizzy... and... nngh... |
| 01:36.22 | snelson | !faq |
| 01:36.22 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 01:36.27 | Lightning | astronut, there was modconf, but that was on an old ver. not sure if it is still around |
| 01:36.37 | astronut | it doesn't do boot |
| 01:36.39 | astronut | just load/unload |
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| 01:36.52 | Lightning | my mistake |
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| 01:37.00 | cr3 | astronut: there has to be somekind of workaround without having to login as root |
| 01:37.26 | Draconicus | lp0 is supposed to return activity, since I have a controller thing on it. I get "input/output error". Does this mean that there was a general problem communicating, or that it just isn't there (connection problem)? |
| 01:37.49 | TwistedEmotions | !tell behrouz2005 about xservers |
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| 01:38.36 | snelson | resiak: you have any ideas what to try now? My screen tried to do 1040x768 res but flashed an went back to 800x600 |
| 01:38.41 | dx | ok tell me, when i only have 1 harddisk inserted and it still says error loading operating system, is there hope left that i don't have to erase all data? |
| 01:38.57 | TwistedEmotions | behrouz2005: there are a shitload of GUI's out there for linux... |
| 01:39.16 | nonoo | okay if I changed teh sshd_config file, do I probably need to restart ssh? |
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| 01:39.27 | TwistedEmotions | behrouz2005: GNOME and KDE are the standard ones... I like XFCE4... |
| 01:39.38 | TwistedEmotions | behrouz2005: ask the guys in here how to install one.. |
| 01:39.44 | Draconicus | ...At least acknowledge my existence..... please... |
| 01:39.54 | Lightning | nonoo , you can usually send a kill -HUP to it to make it reload the config |
| 01:40.13 | ShadowRage | how do I stop pppd from clearing my resolv.conf entries? |
| 01:40.21 | dx | :-( ? |
| 01:40.26 | ShadowRage | it keeps clearing already set entries |
| 01:40.26 | pekkele | TwistedEmotions: can you add shortcuts in xfce ?? |
| 01:40.35 | Draconicus | Please.... |
| 01:40.36 | pekkele | TwistedEmotions: in desktop *? |
| 01:40.47 | TwistedEmotions | pekkele: no. |
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| 01:40.56 | TwistedEmotions | pekkele: you just add to taskbar.. |
| 01:41.03 | nonoo | Lighting: What would be the full syntax, its giving me its usage |
| 01:41.14 | nonoo | I assum I need to know the pid? |
| 01:41.15 | Lightning | kill -HUP <pid of sshd> |
| 01:41.21 | Draconicus | For the sake of my sanity, somebody please acknowledged that I'm here... |
| 01:41.21 | nonoo | how do I find the pid |
| 01:41.32 | Draconicus | -d |
| 01:41.32 | pekkele | TwistedEmotions: i have seen one guy who made some way that to add shortcuts in desktop |
| 01:41.33 | nonoo | Darconicus is a hard name to type really really fast? |
| 01:41.42 | Draconicus | Um... |
| 01:41.46 | Draconicus | Tab completion? |
| 01:41.47 | pekkele | TwistedEmotions: i just wonder how he made that |
| 01:41.48 | Lightning | i usually look in ps or pstree |
| 01:41.50 | Draconicus | Anyway, thank you. |
| 01:42.16 | Draconicus | Now, who's going to answer my rediculously simple question that is not easily answered by research? |
| 01:42.22 | TwistedEmotions | pekkele: you sure he wasnt using gnome or KDE ? they both support icons I think.. |
| 01:42.24 | jetscreamer | so when i want to tell my webhost's mailserver to send my mail to my local exim4 smtp server, what is the term for that, and how/what to configure in exim4 |
| 01:42.47 | Draconicus | I'm trying to understand the meaning of a program's output. cat, specifically. |
| 01:42.49 | pekkele | TwistedEmotions: yeah, im sure, he was using xfce :) |
| 01:43.07 | resiak | Draconicus: cat just reproduces what's in the file you cat. |
| 01:43.18 | Draconicus | Oh. |
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| 01:43.32 | TwistedEmotions | pekkele: I'm sure there is a way to do it... how... I dont have the slightest idea... and seems like too much work to me. |
| 01:43.37 | Draconicus | So "input/output error" suggests that nothing is there? |
| 01:44.06 | resiak | Draconicus: It means that there was an i/o error :) |
| 01:44.20 | Draconicus | ... |
| 01:44.39 | pekkele | TwistedEmotions: yeah, maybe they keep that secret :D and public in later versions |
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| 01:45.19 | TwistedEmotions | pekkele: ask deadcat about the kill list when he gets back later. |
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| 01:45.45 | nonoo | lightning: ps -a shows three differnet sshd's, should I be using a different option? |
| 01:46.05 | _demoncat_ | is there an utility to test udp connectivity on a certain port? I ask because I'm trying to set up kerberos and the kdc is running, but when I run kinit it says it can't connect to any KDCs. |
| 01:46.08 | Draconicus | Well, currently what I have on the device I'm cat'ing (parallel port) is an array of five wires connecting a SNES controller for use with gamecon. What do you think the likely situation is with that, as such that it would results in this error? |
| 01:46.10 | pekkele | :) ok |
| 01:46.15 | Draconicus | Err... Resiak. |
| 01:46.23 | _demoncat_ | I did an strace on kinit and apparently it's getting ECONNREFUSED even though netstat -na |grep 88 shows the kdc listening |
| 01:46.38 | resiak | Draconicus: That's it's in some way borked? I have NFI :) |
| 01:46.47 | Draconicus | Lovely. |
| 01:47.09 | resiak | Draconicus: Sorry. |
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| 01:47.46 | Lightning | nonoo, i use pstree to find the parent/first entry and -HUP it as the others should be child processes |
| 01:47.50 | jetscreamer | oh don't everybody answer me at once |
| 01:47.50 | behrouz2005 | i'm running linux using VMware, everytime i logout out of X window it comes back to the login page, what should i do to stop X window from loading when my operating systems starts up |
| 01:48.02 | jetscreamer | !nodm |
| 01:48.02 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 01:48.26 | jetscreamer | back it up and do the newsflash |
| 01:48.33 | jetscreamer | back that file up |
| 01:49.22 | jetscreamer | you can also /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
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| 01:50.07 | Draconicus | Well, I think in the end I just didn't wire my controller right. Thanks for your time, and sorry for my irritations. |
| 01:50.09 | TheMoebius | Hey, I'm trying to find out where all my memory is going. When I run top it says over 400MB out of 512MB is being used, but when I add up the percentages it only comes out to ~60%. How can I find out where the rest of it is going? |
| 01:50.18 | _demoncat_ | disk cache? |
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| 01:50.26 | jetscreamer | freemem + buffers |
| 01:50.27 | arango | When I use a software to play DVDs, who decodes AC-3 ? The software or the sound card ? |
| 01:51.02 | jetscreamer | the codecs i believe, which would be software |
| 01:51.16 | jetscreamer | w32codecs are on marillat |
| 01:51.27 | jetscreamer | /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 01:52.10 | jetscreamer | !seen Anthro |
| 01:52.11 | dpkg | anthro is currently on #debian (11h 16m 18s). Has said a total of 3856 messages. Is idling for 5h 33m 11s |
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| 01:52.32 | nar | On a sarge system the command "tethereal -n -i eth0" gives 5 lines like ** (process:3108): WARNING **: Protocol filter name "ISystemActivator" has one or more invalid characters. |
| 01:52.39 | nar | Any ideas? |
| 01:52.58 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.01 | behrouz2005 | i cant use ctrl + alt + fN , caus I user ctrl + alt to switch to windows OS, is there any way to switch back to the console |
| 01:53.02 | jetscreamer | no idea |
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| 01:53.11 | jetscreamer | ctrl + alt + F7 |
| 01:53.33 | arango | jetscreamer: So its actually the software (i.e. mplayer) that decodes the sound from the DVD into 6 channels, them mplayer feeds the separated channels to the card ? |
| 01:53.36 | jetscreamer | ctrl + alt + F? |
| 01:53.48 | jetscreamer | oh |
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| 01:54.03 | jetscreamer | no idea, map it in your window manager i guess |
| 01:54.18 | nar | -ni is the same. Problem with locale? |
| 01:54.18 | jetscreamer | arango: i 'believe' so |
| 01:54.22 | behrouz2005 | ctrl+alt+fn doesn't work for some reason |
| 01:54.42 | dx | can i access /etc/fstab with the isntall CD? |
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| 01:55.05 | jetscreamer | yes, but the one on the hd is under /target or /targets |
| 01:55.17 | asg | dx: yes, boot, go to the second console (ALT+F2), mount your filesystems |
| 01:55.23 | Lightning | "error loading operating system" after my install |
| 01:55.23 | dx | ok |
| 01:55.25 | jetscreamer | you can to the installers i believe it's loaded in ram |
| 01:56.04 | jetscreamer | nar: no idea |
| 01:56.51 | behrouz2005 | how can i read my cd, i went to the cdrom folder from the console but there's nothing there! |
| 01:57.04 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: mount it first |
| 01:57.05 | asg | behrouz2005: mount /cdrom |
| 01:57.15 | asg | behrouz2005: man mount (for the specifics) |
| 01:57.20 | ShadowRage | okay |
| 01:57.25 | ShadowRage | maybe people here can help me |
| 01:57.37 | ShadowRage | I keep getting told non-solutions to a problem |
| 01:57.43 | jetscreamer | Lightning: probably the boot loader isn't configured properly, but i'm guessing |
| 01:57.48 | taeli | bit off topic maybe, but does anyone know a decent cli app for showing the space/number-of-files used up by directories |
| 01:57.53 | ShadowRage | my resolv.coonf keeps getting wiped by the system |
| 01:58.02 | jetscreamer | df ? |
| 01:58.07 | asg | taeli: du, ls + wc -l |
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| 01:58.28 | Lightning | jetscreamer, obviously, you should try the setup i'm doing :) |
| 01:58.31 | asg | ShadowRage: are you using dhcp? |
| 01:58.32 | jetscreamer | ShadowRage: do you have pump or ethereal installed? |
| 01:58.45 | taeli | du's what I wanted, cheers |
| 01:58.46 | ShadowRage | nope |
| 01:58.52 | asg | jetscreamer: why would ethereal futz with his /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 01:59.03 | jetscreamer | ok maybe it eas etherconf then |
| 01:59.08 | jetscreamer | s/eas/was/ |
| 01:59.09 | ShadowRage | I use ubuntu, and the system keeps wiping my resolv.conf at bootup and whenever pppd accesses it |
| 01:59.12 | asg | ShadowRage: ps aux | egrep [dhcp|pump] |
| 01:59.13 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 01:59.13 | dpkg | [ubuntu] ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879, or "Based on Debian" like Hollywood movies are "Based on a true story", or I'm not Debian but I play one on TV. |
| 01:59.17 | abrotman | resiak: you're slipping |
| 01:59.18 | ShadowRage | except pppd replaces everything |
| 01:59.27 | asg | bah |
| 01:59.32 | asg | ShadowRage: ps aux | egrep '[dhcp|pump]' |
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| 01:59.43 | ShadowRage | asg: I know I'm not running dhcp or pump |
| 01:59.50 | jetscreamer | you have some autoconfiguration software loading and wiping it out. i had this problem with pump, under morphix once. |
| 01:59.51 | abrotman | #ubuntu ? |
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| 01:59.54 | ShadowRage | asg: because I didnt install them |
| 02:00.17 | jetscreamer | ls /etc/rc.2 and /etc/rc.S i think |
| 02:00.21 | asg | ShadowRage: well, dhclient is, iirc, installed by default. |
| 02:00.37 | ShadowRage | abrotman: I keep getting told to run some shell script in cron to constantly write the 127.0.0.1 to the resolv.conf file |
| 02:00.42 | ShadowRage | asg: not in my system |
| 02:00.49 | ShadowRage | asg: I'm not a n00b |
| 02:00.57 | asg | ShadowRage: fair enough |
| 02:01.01 | mo1991 | Can someone help me with wireless networking. Normally I use the linux-wlan-ng package to configure my microsoft MN-520 pcmcia card. This package is not available under testing? Is there a different or better way to configure wireless for debian testing??? |
| 02:01.06 | jetscreamer | it must be there though, or it wouldn't be getting changed |
| 02:01.11 | ShadowRage | I just use ubuntu because I cant be arsed with fucking with my system constantly to do simple tasks |
| 02:01.29 | dx | asg, thx i found my problem now :) |
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| 02:01.35 | abrotman | Shadowcat: your resolv.conf gets updated by ppp ... if you don't want that to happen . i believe there is an optin to pppd that you can use |
| 02:01.35 | mo1991 | orinioco_cs is the driver I normally use |
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| 02:01.49 | abrotman | ShadowRage: ^^ |
| 02:01.58 | abrotman | ShadowRage: you mean .. like having your ppp work properly? ... |
| 02:02.10 | abrotman | maybe .. windows would be more your speed ? |
| 02:02.22 | jetscreamer | you instigator you |
| 02:02.26 | abrotman | damn right |
| 02:02.30 | abrotman | he's not even in the right channel |
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| 02:02.40 | abrotman | not my fault his chosen OS is supported by elbonians |
| 02:02.45 | ShadowRage | abrotman: I know, but I want it to do it automatically |
| 02:02.56 | ethics | mo1991 : iwconfig is the comman you use i believe...i dont know a gui tho 8( |
| 02:02.57 | behrouz2005 | i mounted my cd "mount /cdrom" in the cdrom folder, and then run ls, the files that r there dont even exit on my cd! |
| 02:03.01 | ShadowRage | abrotman: my old linux system wouldnt overwrite my changes |
| 02:03.07 | abrotman | then go back to it |
| 02:03.10 | ShadowRage | abrotman: it'd append then restore |
| 02:03.31 | asg | ShadowRage: does your /etc/resolv.conf ever need to change? |
| 02:03.34 | jetscreamer | sounds like an audio cd |
| 02:03.43 | abrotman | there's an option to ppp to have it not update your resolv.conf |
| 02:03.54 | asg | ShadowRage: if not, just use chattr +i as a dirty hack (until you can find out what is trying to fool with it.) |
| 02:04.18 | jetscreamer | !find tinycad |
| 02:04.25 | dx | my /etc/fstab lost the information about my boot harddisc, can someone tell what i should add to the /etc/fstab so it'll boot from hdc again |
| 02:04.27 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'tinycad' returned no results. |
| 02:04.34 | behrouz2005 | what's !find tinycd sorry dont know |
| 02:04.35 | mo1991 | ethics I know how to use IWconfig but without linux-wlan-gn debian does not recognize my pcmcia wirelss card |
| 02:04.53 | jetscreamer | !find gdm |
| 02:04.55 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'gdm' (2): gdm ;; gdm-themes. |
| 02:05.16 | asg | dx: which partition on hdc was '/' on? |
| 02:05.17 | jetscreamer | that was tinyCAD |
| 02:05.40 | behrouz2005 | what does that do jetscreamer |
| 02:05.46 | ethics | mo1991 lsmod doesnt have a driver loaded for it? |
| 02:05.49 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: it does cad |
| 02:05.49 | ShadowRage | asg: that won't work because ubuntu has shit set up so system files like xorg.conf won't retain changes unless you set up an md5sum of the changes so it doesn't think the file has been tampered with |
| 02:06.18 | asg | ShadowRage: we are talking about /etc/resolv.conf though right? |
| 02:06.20 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: ls /media, tell me if you see a cdrom and a cdrom0 |
| 02:06.23 | ShadowRage | asg: I'm thinking it does that with resolv.conf as well, at boot time, resolv.conf is blank |
| 02:06.30 | dx | asg standard partitions from Debian installer |
| 02:07.01 | asg | ShadowRage: try it anyway, even root can't futz with immutable files. |
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| 02:08.51 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: it says no such file or directory |
| 02:09.04 | asg | dx: then read fstab(5) and try /dev/hdc1 as the device for your '/' |
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| 02:09.32 | dx | asg what do you mean with read fstab(5) ? |
| 02:09.32 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: you don't have a /media ? is this woody or sarge or what |
| 02:09.38 | flash_muppet | how do I find out my kernel version number? |
| 02:09.39 | asg | dx: man 5 fstab |
| 02:09.44 | jetscreamer | he means ^^^ |
| 02:09.44 | asg | flash_muppet: uname -r |
| 02:09.47 | taeli | hi, wondering how I create directories with unicode characters in the names on bash |
| 02:09.54 | flash_muppet | asg: thanks |
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| 02:09.58 | astronut | what are K and Q in the deb constiution? |
| 02:10.01 | behrouz2005 | when i run the command "mount /cdrom" it tells me this -> mount : /dev/cdrom already mounted or /cdrom busy mount: according to mtab, dev/cdrom is already mounted on /cdrom |
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| 02:10.12 | taeli | is it anything like mkdir \0x0 ? |
| 02:10.27 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: umount /cdrom before changing cd's |
| 02:10.36 | jetscreamer | so umount then mount again |
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| 02:10.43 | jetscreamer | (shouldn't open though) |
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| 02:10.51 | ethics | behrouz2005, yeah thats right.......mount to mount umount to relase a previous mount |
| 02:10.59 | asg | astronut: paste a link or some context please (no more than a line or two.) |
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| 02:11.18 | astronut | asg: i found it |
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| 02:11.28 | boukensya | hey guys. I am looking for a good game to kill time at work when we have no work on. Can't be full screen and can't be too involving cuz if work comes up I have to stop it immidiatly. (; cheers |
| 02:11.30 | Ry12 | what formats other than iso9660 can be burn in linux? |
| 02:11.36 | asg | boukensya: nethack |
| 02:11.42 | jetscreamer | !info bubbles |
| 02:11.47 | caphuso | Ry12: you can burn anything |
| 02:11.53 | jetscreamer | !find bubbles |
| 02:11.53 | behrouz2005 | oh i didn't know that thx |
| 02:11.59 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bubbles' (5 of 12): (/usr/share/apps/kfish/pics/bubbles.png) in kde/kfish ;; (/usr/share/aquarium/bubbles.png) in gnome/shermans-aquarium ;; (/usr/share/apps/kaquarium/pics/bubbles.png) in kde/kaquarium ;; (/usr/share/doc/libgtkextra16/examples/testbubbles.c) in libdevel/libgtkextra-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/python-gtkextra/examples/testbubbles.py) in python/python-gtkextra. |
| 02:12.11 | jetscreamer | bah |
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| 02:12.17 | Ry12 | what is there? |
| 02:12.24 | Ry12 | caphuso? |
| 02:12.37 | jetscreamer | anything there is, probably |
| 02:12.52 | boukensya | asg: any more? |
| 02:13.04 | caphuso | Ry12: well, all you need to do is get an image file of whatever filesystem you want to burn (although that's not strictly necessary, you could for example burn a raw tar ball on CD, without any kind of filesystem) |
| 02:13.06 | TheMoebius | hey, I'm trying to up the resolution on my laptop and I've added them to XF86Config-4, but they're not showing up when I go to the resolution changer in Gnome. What else do I have to do to fix this? |
| 02:13.55 | asg | boukensya: google for MUD (specifically DikuMUD), that will waste many years of time if you aren't careful. |
| 02:14.07 | Ry12 | what cd/dvd formats are there? |
| 02:14.21 | Ry12 | i only know of hfs and iso9660 |
| 02:14.35 | boukensya | asg: yeah I have played alot of muds, but I can't really stop it quickly |
| 02:14.51 | caphuso | Ry12: redbook, i.e. CDDA |
| 02:14.52 | boukensya | asg: I like carrion fields alot (: |
| 02:15.04 | asg | boukensya: that's why we have multiple virtual screens/consoles |
| 02:15.04 | ethics | ry12 : joiliet udf |
| 02:15.16 | caphuso | Ry12: udf (that DVD filesystem) |
| 02:15.31 | caphuso | joliet is an ISO9660 extension, not a filesystem on its own |
| 02:15.32 | ethics | ry12: vcd...cdi....cd-kareoki |
| 02:15.34 | arango | any one using LIRC ? I need a recommendation for an IR receiver ... |
| 02:15.44 | Ry12 | anything non readable by windows? |
| 02:15.44 | ethics | ry12: just look at any dvd writer spec... |
| 02:15.55 | boukensya | asg: so if I was to play a mud, I get in a fight and then in the middle of the fight I have to go, can't really just close it, get banned for that |
| 02:15.59 | caphuso | arango: easiest and cheapest to just solder one yourself |
| 02:16.23 | caphuso | arango: plans are available at the lirc homepage, with listings of the necessary parts |
| 02:16.23 | ethics | arango: i lirc.....mines in my tvtuner... |
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| 02:16.31 | asg | boukensya: those are the risks of gaming at work. |
| 02:16.35 | ethics | arango: you can just make one 8) |
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| 02:17.24 | boukensya | is there a game that is sort of addicting that is free that doesn't have time like that? |
| 02:17.34 | icyfire | nethack |
| 02:18.11 | asg | boukensya: 1) ls -l /usr/bin > ~/fun.lst 2) pager ~/fun.lst 3) find out about anything you didn't know existed. /usr/bin trolling is a great way to waste time. |
| 02:18.44 | caphuso | programming dc is also a fun way of wasting time |
| 02:18.49 | boukensya | hehe |
| 02:19.10 | caphuso | stuff like [0pq]sA[pq]sB[+z2!>C]sCz0=Az1=BlCxp |
| 02:19.16 | boukensya | yeah I have been thinking about learning asm |
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| 02:19.51 | walkingpi | hey all, i'm having arguments with apt:( |
| 02:20.09 | asg | ~botsnack |
| 02:20.09 | apt | asg: aw, gee |
| 02:20.16 | asg | walkingpi: seems friendly to me |
| 02:20.21 | PerKlunk | walkingpi: apt-get moo |
| 02:20.23 | PerKlunk | That will fix it. |
| 02:20.28 | walkingpi | !?! |
| 02:20.57 | walkingpi | i can't seem to get anything, whenever i apt -install something it dies saying Blah is needed by Blah, e: Transation set check failed |
| 02:21.11 | asg | walkingpi: what, exactly, are you typing? |
| 02:21.18 | walkingpi | well |
| 02:21.22 | walkingpi | i'm trying to install synaptic to start |
| 02:21.29 | asg | walkingpi: don't interpret, just paste the error. |
| 02:21.43 | walkingpi | apt --no-checksig install synaptic |
| 02:21.52 | asg | walkingpi: try apt-get install synaptic |
| 02:21.53 | rob_lt | apt-get install synaptic |
| 02:22.01 | dx | anyone got a recommanded partition and wanna tell me how fstab looks |
| 02:22.04 | walkingpi | then i get a signature error |
| 02:22.41 | asg | dx: /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,acl 0 1 (my root fstab. remove the 'acl' keyword and that will be close to default.) |
| 02:22.44 | boukensya | rob_lt: try it with aptitude |
| 02:22.47 | dx | thx |
| 02:23.34 | walkingpi | so i use --no-checksig, but apt-get doesn't understand that one, so i used apt. and then i get E: Transation set check failed |
| 02:23.40 | rob_lt | boukensya: I think you want to tell walkingpi that? |
| 02:23.52 | boukensya | sorry yeah |
| 02:23.54 | rob_lt | np |
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| 02:24.07 | walkingpi | i have no aptitude:) |
| 02:24.09 | asg | walkingpi: there is not 'apt' binary in debian. |
| 02:24.22 | asg | s/not/no/ |
| 02:24.27 | walkingpi | i am using suse |
| 02:24.33 | asg | walkingpi: #suse |
| 02:24.34 | jetscreamer | craptitude |
| 02:24.35 | boukensya | walkingpi: you should |
| 02:24.36 | asg | walkingpi: have fun |
| 02:24.36 | walkingpi | sorry, important detail!? |
| 02:24.49 | asg | walkingpi: do you know about tampons? |
| 02:24.52 | boukensya | walkingpi: aptitude is installed by default with debian install |
| 02:25.02 | PerKlunk | !start a distro war |
| 02:25.02 | dpkg | Progeny owns! |
| 02:25.08 | walkingpi | no distro war |
| 02:25.11 | walkingpi | suse people are mean |
| 02:25.14 | jetscreamer | not with a woody but a sarge |
| 02:25.15 | Anthro | jetscreamer: Were you looking for me? |
| 02:25.16 | boukensya | walkingpi: aptitude install synaptic |
| 02:25.23 | walkingpi | they never respond to my help, so i came here, since apt is debian |
| 02:25.30 | jetscreamer | Anthro: no, just curious if you still lived :) |
| 02:25.33 | walkingpi | boukensya i'm on suse, there is no aptitude |
| 02:25.34 | PerKlunk | walkingpi: synaptic is stupid... |
| 02:25.38 | PerKlunk | That is your first mistake. |
| 02:25.39 | Anthro | jetscreamer: Heh. So far, so good. |
| 02:25.39 | PerKlunk | apt > * |
| 02:25.46 | boukensya | oh, no idea |
| 02:25.47 | asg | walkingpi: there is no 'apt' binary in Debian. whatever you have or think you have isn't something we can support. Sorry. |
| 02:26.02 | boukensya | suse is rpm based, so you using that converter thing? |
| 02:26.02 | walkingpi | i see |
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| 02:26.08 | boukensya | portage thingo |
| 02:26.11 | walkingpi | i'm using apt-get for suse |
| 02:26.13 | PerKlunk | alien? |
| 02:26.13 | abrotman | !alien |
| 02:26.13 | dpkg | i heard alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have sex with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
| 02:26.33 | akal | is there a better gui for ftp then gftp? |
| 02:26.35 | rob_lt | walkingpi: the apt syntax should still be the same. apt-get install |
| 02:26.39 | Anthro | Is there a way to defrag an ext3 partition? I had one that was riding just a bit too close to 100% full for too long. Now that I've increased the size of the partition, it's still 21.7% non-contiguous, according to e2fsck. |
| 02:26.42 | abrotman | akal: xterm |
| 02:26.48 | abrotman | !defrag |
| 02:26.48 | dpkg | i heard defrag is the best windows screensaver, or what windows users do for emotional satisfaction when the frequency of illegal operations and bluescreens has become too big |
| 02:26.49 | PerKlunk | akal sadly no |
| 02:26.55 | walkingpi | yes apt-get install works, but what is the apt-get tag to disable signature checking? |
| 02:26.59 | PerKlunk | akal: There is no FlashFXP if that's what you are asking. |
| 02:27.03 | asg | walkingpi: man apt-get |
| 02:27.09 | PerKlunk | You want FXP/PRET capabilities you need pftp or lftp(cli) |
| 02:27.18 | akal | abrotman, how to ftp with xterm? |
| 02:27.31 | jetscreamer | type ftp |
| 02:27.34 | Anthro | abrotman: Um, is that a no, or just making fun of defragging in general? |
| 02:28.07 | walkingpi | :( |
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| 02:28.12 | jetscreamer | Anthro: i think it's a no, but i'm not positive |
| 02:28.12 | akal | something like smartftp had been mentioned before. anyone can add to it? |
| 02:28.17 | dx | asg what about the swap drive? |
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| 02:28.37 | asg | dx: /dev/hda6 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 02:28.55 | akal | abrotman, what is defragging and what has it got to do with me or my first q? |
| 02:29.00 | at0m|c | akal: i use gftp, its similar to smartftp |
| 02:29.00 | dx | asg any drives left i should add? |
| 02:29.14 | TheMoebius | akal, I've spend ages looking for something like smartFTP, but all I could find was kbear, which sucks and gftp I think is nothing like smartftp |
| 02:29.17 | asg | dx: as long as you can get '/' up, the rest can be fixed later. |
| 02:29.26 | dx | okay |
| 02:29.28 | abrotman | Anthro: it's a "not worth your time because of the way unix/linux stores files" |
| 02:29.28 | dx | thx |
| 02:29.47 | rob_lt | should the swap partition show up when issuing the "mount" command? |
| 02:29.52 | abrotman | akal: i was pulling your leg .. afaik .. gftp is the only gui ftp client i know of |
| 02:29.58 | akal | at0m|c, gftp does not even indicates the end of a successful transfer. |
| 02:30.04 | asg | rob_lt: try free(1) |
| 02:30.18 | jdhutchin1 | is there a limit for the size of partitions on ata drives? |
| 02:30.24 | abrotman | akal: you could use wget |
| 02:30.27 | abrotman | jdhutchin1: which kernel |
| 02:30.32 | rob_lt | asg: thanks |
| 02:30.33 | jdhutchin1 | abrotman, 2.6 |
| 02:30.36 | jdhutchin1 | 32-bit |
| 02:30.43 | abrotman | jdhutchin1: how big is the drive ? |
| 02:30.57 | jdhutchin1 | 250, one of my friends says there's a limit of 128gb for partitions |
| 02:30.58 | Anthro | abrotman: This is true in general but, like any auto-defragging filesystem, ext2/3 doesn't do as good a job when it is strapped for space. |
| 02:31.11 | abrotman | it doesn't auto-defrag |
| 02:31.14 | asg | Anthro: then backup, recreate the filesystem, restore. |
| 02:31.16 | deadcat | jdhutchin1: i give up on the aireplay thing. but i really want to know why linux-wlan-ng usb sometimes hang my system when i kismet on high traffic network though |
| 02:31.18 | abrotman | jdhutchin1: wrong kernel |
| 02:31.26 | Anthro | asg: Ugh. Not fun. |
| 02:31.33 | abrotman | jdhutchin1: there used to be .. 48bit addressing .. doesn't exist anymore .. your friend lied |
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| 02:31.51 | jdhutchin1 | abrotman, thanks for the explanation |
| 02:31.53 | asg | Anthro: that's the way it's done. |
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| 02:31.59 | abrotman | jdhutchin1: i'm pretty sure anyways .. |
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| 02:32.10 | Anthro | asg: *sigh* Well, it'll happen eventually. |
| 02:32.10 | abrotman | jdhutchin1: but XFS can handle like .. 6PB partitions i think |
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| 02:33.12 | jdhutchin1 | deadcat, hang your system as in kernel panick? |
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| 02:33.13 | jdhutchin1 | *panic |
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| 02:33.40 | DV8 | hey dataw0lf |
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| 02:35.59 | dataw0lf | DV8: yes? |
| 02:36.41 | deadcat | jdhutchin1: ya. when i kismet with high traffic. |
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| 02:37.09 | Kraig | i have a Conexant HCF 56K modem and i've googled for a while, linmodems.org sent me to linuxant.com, so, besides buying the driver to get the 56kb/s (instead of the 14.4 kb/s free version) is there another solution? |
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| 02:37.54 | deadcat | Kraig: fuck buying driver. buy a new modem. cheaper than the fucking software. and that softwre sucks too |
| 02:38.17 | Kraig | deadcat: hehe, definitley right |
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| 02:38.22 | jetscreamer | get a hardware modem |
| 02:38.24 | Kraig | i'm glad the modem is not actually for me... |
| 02:38.43 | deadcat | Kraig: hell ya. charge $ for linux software is a sin. so fuck them |
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| 02:38.57 | Kraig | damn right... |
| 02:39.01 | Kraig | where is this gonna end? |
| 02:39.21 | deadcat | Kraig: if i see the guy who wrote that driver. i will kick his nuts |
| 02:39.26 | asg | deadcat: charging money is not a sin, non-freeness is. |
| 02:39.33 | deadcat | Kraig: then shove a $1 up his ass |
| 02:39.48 | Kraig | deadcat: lol |
| 02:40.26 | deadcat | whats dfsg on all those X apps i just upgraded? |
| 02:40.45 | Azar | hello |
| 02:41.05 | ethics | abrotman,jdhutchi1: just so you guys know...MS has a 130 gig limit on fat32 creation.....its not an actual limit but microsoft force you to use ntfs for bigger than 130. in reality tho its crap windows can use lots bigger too it just is cripled so it wont... |
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| 02:41.18 | asg | deadcat: they removed some questionable non-freeness by forking the last libre X code. |
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| 02:41.31 | Kraig | fuck NTFS... |
| 02:41.37 | ethics | abrotman, jdhutchin1 that could be what your mate was chatting about |
| 02:41.43 | abrotman | ethics: i think his friend said linux |
| 02:41.45 | binarydigit | fat32 limit is 32 gb |
| 02:41.45 | deadcat | asg: oh. |
| 02:41.45 | Kraig | i'm switching to XFS this weekend finally... |
| 02:41.47 | binarydigit | not 130 |
| 02:41.59 | sussudio | binarydigit: no it isn't. |
| 02:42.13 | asg | deadcat: it will all be replaced by x.org in the future, what you are seeing is a stop-gap measure until sarge is released. |
| 02:42.18 | sussudio | binarydigit: the fact that win2000/XP won't let you make bigger than 32 doesn't mean that's the limit. |
| 02:42.19 | at0m|c | 130 isnt that the int14 issue, depending on mobo |
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| 02:42.42 | MrRagga | hi |
| 02:42.50 | ethics | abrotman, yeah it wasnt clear but i thought id throw that out there just to increase the common knowledge 8) |
| 02:42.59 | abrotman | 48bit addressing |
| 02:43.14 | MrRagga | if i switch from stable to testing, could i change the security sources from stable to testing, too? |
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| 02:43.30 | flash_muppet | where would I go for some good info on installing xen? I have been checking out http://cosi.clarkson.edu/knowledge/workshops/sp05/installingxen/xen-tutorial.html#Creating%20Domain%20Configurations but its a little vauge for me .. |
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| 02:43.59 | asg | MrRagga: change stable to sarge, not testing (unless you plan to track testing after sarge releases.) |
| 02:44.31 | MrRagga | asg: but unstable will be stable soon, right? |
| 02:44.43 | Kraig | define "soon" |
| 02:44.47 | asg | MrRagga: no, unstable will never be anything other than unstable. |
| 02:44.51 | ethics | binarydigit, oh its that small? i thought it was the lba48 size...never mind that figure then 8) |
| 02:44.51 | abrotman | MrRagga: no |
| 02:44.59 | MrRagga | asg: i am going to set up a own root server, but stable packages are too old ;) |
| 02:45.12 | PerKlunk | MrRagga: Unstable will NEVER be stable. |
| 02:45.13 | asg | MrRagga: then install sarge (or upgrade from woody) |
| 02:45.13 | abrotman | root server ? |
| 02:45.16 | PerKlunk | unstable(sid) is never ending. |
| 02:45.18 | abrotman | dns ? |
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| 02:45.50 | PerKlunk | MrRagga: There are three branches... |
| 02:45.52 | ethics | binarydigit, i knew there was a cap so i made the drive via linux...250Gb fat32 atm. |
| 02:45.53 | PerKlunk | stable unstable and testing |
| 02:45.58 | PerKlunk | woody sid sarge |
| 02:46.02 | MrRagga | PerKlunk, ask, sorry forgot you are right, but stable will be 3.1 soon ;) |
| 02:46.02 | DV8 | when will insane be sane? |
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| 02:46.14 | abrotman | !releases |
| 02:46.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, releases is http://www.debian.org/releases/ ....shortlist is hamm v2.0 - obsolete, slink v2.1 - obsolete, potato v2.2 - obsolete, woody v3.0 - current stable, sarge v3.1 - current testing (stable ~30/5/05), etch v3.2 (testing to follow sarge stable release), SID - Unstable - Experimental |
| 02:46.28 | abrotman | stupid ass put a date in there |
| 02:46.33 | PerKlunk | !bo |
| 02:46.34 | dpkg | from memory, bo is Debian 1.3, released on June 2, 1997, for the i386 architecture.. Little Bo Peep... as in, the one with the sheep. Bolivia |
| 02:46.38 | abrotman | !peep |
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| 02:46.49 | abrotman | !pee |
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| 02:47.01 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: factinfo releases |
| 02:47.02 | dpkg | releases -- last modified at Tue May 24 23:59:23 2005 by ethics!~Administr@198.142.155.146; it has been requested 5 times, last by abrotman, 47s ago. |
| 02:47.06 | dx | asg after reboot it forgets my changes in /etc/fstab |
| 02:47.10 | asg | abrotman: don't forget, according to the FAQ, peeps are kosher fsvo peeps |
| 02:47.10 | dondelelcaro | ok, who screwed up that factoid? |
| 02:47.19 | ethics | abrotman, it has a tilder meaning approx |
| 02:47.34 | abrotman | ethics: oh thanks .. i'm an idiot .. i had no idea what that meant |
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| 02:47.46 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: apparently .. ethics did |
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| 02:48.01 | abrotman | ~releases |
| 02:48.02 | apt | releases are Look at http://www.debian.org/releases/ ! There is a website for a reason! |
| 02:48.02 | ethics | abrotman, i update the date that was in it originally hehe |
| 02:48.06 | PerKlunk | !buzz |
| 02:48.06 | dpkg | buzz is probably Debian 1.1, released June 1996 (474 packages, 2.0 kernel, fully ELF, dpkg) |
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| 02:48.09 | PerKlunk | !rex |
| 02:48.09 | dpkg | rumour has it, rex is the codename for Debian 1.2, released mid-Dec 1996 |
| 02:48.14 | asg | PerKlunk: /msg the bot ffs |
| 02:48.16 | PerKlunk | Why aren't buzz/rex/box included? |
| 02:48.23 | PerKlunk | in releases |
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| 02:48.32 | abrotman | because they are ancient ... |
| 02:48.36 | abrotman | what about potato or slink ? |
| 02:48.41 | abrotman | you didn't ask about those |
| 02:48.43 | asg | PerKlunk: not the term 'shortlist' |
| 02:48.48 | asg | s/not/note/ |
| 02:48.49 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: no, releases is <reply> see release history |
| 02:48.49 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: okay |
| 02:48.51 | PerKlunk | o yea |
| 02:48.53 | chealer | AFAIK the factoid hadn't changed since perfdave made it |
| 02:48.54 | dondelelcaro | !releases |
| 02:48.54 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-08-28), Potato(2.2; 2001-04-17[?]), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19). The next release will be Sarge. You can call Sarge+1 "Etch". See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
| 02:49.00 | DV8 | don't forget ham |
| 02:49.03 | dondelelcaro | hamm |
| 02:49.26 | DV8 | mmmh... good |
| 02:49.27 | Kraig | well guys, thanks a lot, happy to see some interesting comments today :) |
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| 02:49.33 | chealer | but releases was about explaining stable vs testing vs sid |
| 02:49.36 | [Timmeh] | hi, what type of package would i want if i was to setup a mail server? |
| 02:49.41 | asg | dx: it shouldn't, is /etc/fstab blank again? |
| 02:49.44 | DV8 | this is Sunday week |
| 02:49.52 | PerKlunk | [Timmeh]: apt-get -y install smtpd |
| 02:49.53 | asg | [Timmeh]: you should already have one (exim or exim4 by default) |
| 02:49.56 | dondelelcaro | chealer: uh, yes, that's what the last link does. |
| 02:49.58 | abrotman | wait til next week |
| 02:50.02 | DV8 | Everyday is Sunday for all I care |
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| 02:50.25 | [Timmeh] | because when i try and send emails through php to registering users for activation it dosent send. |
| 02:50.36 | Azar | anyone tried The Mono .NET ? |
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| 02:50.49 | abrotman | the mono ? |
| 02:50.49 | DV8 | heck ya |
| 02:50.56 | asg | [Timmeh]: you haven't configured your mta. dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config (sarge/sid) or eximconfig (woody) |
| 02:51.05 | [Timmeh] | ok thnx |
| 02:51.06 | dx | asg not blank but it only contains this http://bitbyte.dk/fstab.txt |
| 02:51.07 | Azar | yeah there is some buzz news about it so I was wondering |
| 02:51.09 | i3dmaster | I am having a hard time getting some pkgs removed using apt.. apt seems cannot remove them because of some weird problem. |
| 02:51.15 | abrotman | Azar: are you freaking serious ? |
| 02:51.22 | dx | after reboot |
| 02:51.25 | Jacobo221 | how can i pipe the output of bash's "time" command? i want to do something like "time app | grep ^real" |
| 02:51.49 | Azar | abrotman... I just saw something about in the news was wondering what is mono about |
| 02:51.50 | chealer | dondelelcaro: it's certainly complete...if it's not overkill |
| 02:51.51 | i3dmaster | hope someone good at pkg management can help me a little bit |
| 02:51.53 | asg | dx: oh, that looks like some udev or devfs borkage. Someone else will have to help with that. |
| 02:52.01 | DV8 | Azar, log into irc.gimp.org #mono and ask miguel dumb questions |
| 02:52.01 | astronut | any DD's in here? |
| 02:52.05 | dx | okay :( |
| 02:52.11 | astronut | i have some questions about what goes into being a DD... |
| 02:52.23 | abrotman | !tell Azar about mono |
| 02:52.26 | asg | astronut: /msg dpkg mg ; read the developer's reference |
| 02:52.33 | astronut | asg: i have it open right now |
| 02:52.35 | astronut | on section 3.2 |
| 02:52.47 | [Timmeh] | dpkg-reconfigure is that the right command? i get command cannot be found |
| 02:52.54 | asg | [Timmeh]: as root |
| 02:52.55 | astronut | do you have to be able to code if you just want to maintain a package from upstream? |
| 02:53.05 | [Timmeh] | sorry |
| 02:53.16 | abrotman | astronut: you can do docs too |
| 02:53.21 | asg | astronut: no, but you should be able to code in the language the package you are maintaining is written in (to help fix bugs, etc.) |
| 02:53.26 | dondelelcaro | astronut: no, but you should generally be able to. |
| 02:53.27 | astronut | k |
| 02:53.31 | Azar | thanks abrotman |
| 02:53.32 | astronut | i can code somewhat |
| 02:53.39 | astronut | i'm the best programmer in my school..but that means nothing |
| 02:53.53 | abrotman | i'm the best programmer in my bed at night |
| 02:53.58 | astronut | lets put it this way...i can code a bit past the AP curriculum (college board) |
| 02:54.14 | dondelelcaro | well, that's a place to start from |
| 02:54.14 | astronut | abrotman: ah, not married i see |
| 02:54.17 | astronut | ya |
| 02:54.23 | ethics | astronut, you go to hairdressing school tho/// |
| 02:54.23 | asg | astronut: your teledildonics jabber API? |
| 02:54.33 | abrotman | astronut: or .. not to a programmer |
| 02:54.35 | astronut | i WANT to learn to code on a higher scale...don't know where to start |
| 02:54.42 | mortalman | O yeah, well I'm god. |
| 02:54.44 | abrotman | astronut: in which language ? |
| 02:54.53 | abrotman | mortalman: apparently .. based on your nick .. you're not |
| 02:54.55 | astronut | abrotman: java and C++ |
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| 02:55.06 | astronut | it's a high school curriculom |
| 02:55.07 | abrotman | astronut: get some books .. read online docs . esp for java |
| 02:55.10 | mortalman | abrotman, It's a disguise. |
| 02:55.11 | astronut | i can make an app and stuff |
| 02:55.13 | astronut | err |
| 02:55.14 | astronut | a small app |
| 02:55.16 | astronut | to do x task |
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| 02:55.21 | astronut | but not anything system level really |
| 02:55.30 | astronut | and pretty much all console based |
| 02:55.38 | abrotman | so find something you want to maintain .. and look at the code |
| 02:55.42 | [Timmeh] | system mail name does that come up on emails? Who its from? |
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| 02:55.50 | astronut | and most of my C++ work was in the turbo environment...how's that for outdated |
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| 02:56.05 | asg | [Timmeh]: I think you should first read greycat's mail tutorial (/msg dpkg mail tutorial) |
| 02:56.06 | abrotman | astronut: i learned ont hat .. conio.h!!!!! |
| 02:56.11 | mngrif_ | could someone enlighten me as to how to up the key repeat rate and delay in ye olde debian? |
| 02:56.13 | astronut | yeppers |
| 02:56.14 | astronut | 16bit? |
| 02:56.15 | [Timmeh] | kk |
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| 02:56.21 | astronut | or did you have the windows 3.11 version? |
| 02:56.35 | abrotman | astronut: i actually still have it here somewhere .. borland turbo c++ 3.1 .. might have turbo pascal too |
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| 02:56.38 | astronut | i just read the debian consitution...skipped some of the map |
| 02:56.41 | astronut | don't have the pascall |
| 02:56.43 | astronut | i have 3.1 |
| 02:56.44 | astronut | lol |
| 02:56.47 | astronut | that's what i learned on |
| 02:56.52 | Lafitte- | doesn anyone know a command to disable a synaptics touchpad ? |
| 02:57.00 | abrotman | that's to go with my pascal/ada books :) |
| 02:57.09 | asg | Lafitte-: disable in what way? |
| 02:57.16 | mngrif_ | Lafitte-: hammer > /dev/touchpad ? :P |
| 02:58.45 | Lafitte- | hehe |
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| 02:59.00 | Lafitte- | asg, like so it wont move the mouse |
| 02:59.09 | abrotman | Lafitte- the pirate ? |
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| 02:59.18 | Lafitte- | i use laptop mouse and the touchpad disturbs the mouse |
| 02:59.27 | at0m|c | Lafitte-: if u dont mind uninstalling, i removed xfree86-driver-synaptics |
| 02:59.34 | Lafitte- | abrotman, not many poeple no that heh e |
| 02:59.44 | abrotman | Lafitte-: i've been to new orleans a few times :) |
| 02:59.46 | asg | Lafitte-: remove any mouse config from your XF86Config-4 file and use 'Option AllowMouseOpenFail' to prevent X from bitching. No mouse, no problems. |
| 02:59.53 | Lafitte- | abrotman, hehe sweet |
| 02:59.58 | abrotman | Lafitte-: including jean lafitte's blacksmith shop .. way down bourbon street |
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| 03:00.25 | Lafitte- | abrotman, hehe sweet :) |
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| 03:00.41 | Lafitte- | asg, ill try that |
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| 03:00.54 | fusquanto_ | can someone help me with my inet... im using pump with debian unstable and i keep getting these errors (although my net is working, for now): Jun 1 22:05:08 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received.Jun 1 22:05:08 localhost dhclient: No working leases in persistent database. Jun 1 22:05:09 localhost dhclient: Sleeping. |
| 03:01.19 | jtmoney | does 3.1 have a graphical installer or no? |
| 03:01.21 | astronut | abrotman: do you have to understand everything about a pacakge to package it? |
| 03:01.28 | astronut | or just enough to know what sorta goes where? |
| 03:01.31 | abrotman | http://www.neworleansphotographs.com/lafittes005a-n.htm |
| 03:01.35 | deadcat | jtmoney: no |
| 03:01.39 | asg | jtmoney: ncurses is graphical, yes. |
| 03:01.46 | abrotman | astronut: i think that depends on the complexity of the package ... |
| 03:01.49 | deadcat | asg: not to him (= |
| 03:01.54 | abrotman | astronut: and how popular it is |
| 03:02.27 | asg | deadcat: then he probably needs to buy a mac and just use what it comes with. |
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| 03:02.37 | deadcat | asg: (= |
| 03:02.59 | astronut | abrotman: you manage any? |
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| 03:03.22 | mngrif_ | and how about using the windows keys to switch VCs? how do you accomplish that in debian? |
| 03:03.23 | hardcampa- | ehm ncurses i a text library |
| 03:03.27 | hardcampa- | is* |
| 03:03.29 | abrotman | astronut: they don't like me .. :) |
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| 03:03.41 | astronut | abrotman: why not? |
| 03:03.44 | mngrif_ | hardcampa-: but it does psuedo-graphics lookalikes with ascii art :P |
| 03:04.21 | stew | Lafitte-: /msg dpkg synaptics ; the url in there will tell you all kinda of parameters for the synaptics driver that will let you do stuff like turn of tap to click if thats what's bothering you |
| 03:04.21 | abrotman | astronut: ask asg |
| 03:04.21 | hardcampa- | Still it isn't graphical in a .... graphical sense |
| 03:04.21 | astronut | asg: eh? |
| 03:04.22 | abrotman | there's no mouse .. it's still a "GUI" |
| 03:04.25 | asg | astronut: who doesn't like you? |
| 03:04.28 | mngrif_ | hardcampa-: eh, yeah |
| 03:04.33 | asg | astronut: sorry |
| 03:04.38 | astronut | asg: not me...abrotman said they don't like him..why? |
| 03:04.38 | asg | abrotman: who doesn't like you? |
| 03:04.50 | asg | astronut: dunno, haven't the foggiest. |
| 03:04.50 | abrotman | asg: because they can smell me over irc? :) |
| 03:04.56 | stew | !hate abrotman |
| 03:04.57 | dpkg | I hate abrotman! |
| 03:04.57 | asg | haha |
| 03:04.58 | abrotman | wait .. i don't smell |
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| 03:05.16 | astronut | abrotman: seriously, you applied? |
| 03:05.18 | abrotman | astronut: no .. i don't maintain any .. i've not found anything i'm truly interested in maintaining |
| 03:05.19 | astronut | and failed? |
| 03:05.32 | abrotman | no . never applied |
| 03:05.36 | astronut | oh, ok |
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| 03:05.54 | abrotman | astronut: i'd have to find something i really wanted to maintain |
| 03:05.58 | danamania | under bsd and osx, I can run 'netstat -w 1' to get a continuous display (updating every second) of how much bandwidth in/out is happening on an interface. what's the equivalent in linux? |
| 03:06.07 | dx^ | i got a problem with fstab, right now it looks like this www.bitbyte.dk/fstab.txt i've tried to access it from the alternative console during cd installation and added a few lines about hdc (the hdd boot device) but after i reboot the /etc/fstab looks like it does before (it doesn't remember my changes) how can i solve that problem? :/ |
| 03:06.09 | sepen | anyone know an repositori who has good times in venezuela |
| 03:06.10 | sepen | ¿? |
| 03:06.16 | dx^ | argh |
| 03:06.20 | dx^ | damn |
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| 03:06.23 | abrotman | sepen: apt-spy |
| 03:06.28 | dx^ | thougt this was another irc server |
| 03:06.31 | dx^ | lol |
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| 03:07.06 | sepen | abrotman: thanks |
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| 03:08.31 | asg | danamania: netstat -c -i <interface> |
| 03:08.31 | cafuego | Do we have any hungarians here who can tell me what "méretezmmm means? |
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| 03:09.02 | stew | tell cafuego about hu |
| 03:09.04 | stew | :) |
| 03:09.06 | asg | cafuego: rectal seepage? |
| 03:09.12 | abrotman | cafuego: kind of like .. mmmm .. but very mmmm |
| 03:09.17 | cafuego | é |
| 03:09.20 | cafuego | arrrrgh! |
| 03:09.25 | abrotman | asg: you learned about that in hungary ? |
| 03:09.52 | asg | abrotman: sadly, only mrs. asg has been to hungary (and claims the food and booze were cheap) |
| 03:09.59 | abrotman | asg: no seepage ? |
| 03:10.10 | stew | cheep seepage |
| 03:10.15 | danieldg | I am using iptables/netfilter, and I have entries appearing in /proc/net/ipt_recent/name that are not recorded in my logs. any ideas on how they got there? iptables -vL doesn't display any matches on rules that match |
| 03:10.37 | stew | danieldg: ask in #iptables |
| 03:10.45 | danieldg | ok |
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| 03:10.51 | asg | stew: seep cheapage |
| 03:11.15 | stew | no thanks |
| 03:11.21 | PerKlunk | hahaha, you know what would be funny.. |
| 03:11.25 | PerKlunk | When Fedora Core 4 comes out.. |
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| 03:11.33 | PerKlunk | If they switched the iso images with debian sarge |
| 03:11.34 | stew | a regular friggen riot |
| 03:11.38 | gteppel | I'm running Debian/sid (updated last night) and when I go to install raidtools2 I get the following message: Package raidtools2 is not available. Does anybody know where it went? |
| 03:11.45 | PerKlunk | And all the redhat addicts installed sarge |
| 03:11.51 | shiftless | is there an eclipse 3.0 package available for debian? i cant find one |
| 03:11.57 | danamania | asg: ta - though that looks like it should work it seems to be spitting out nothing but one line containing "Iface MTU Met RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg" without any data, except for the first pass |
| 03:12.32 | abrotman | shiftless: apt-get.org .. maybe .. if you're lucky .. otherwise ... /msg dpkg java .. then use java-package ... and install it yourself |
| 03:12.44 | asg | danamania: hmmm, odd, seems to work here |
| 03:12.57 | shiftless | didnt find one on apt-get |
| 03:13.17 | abrotman | shiftless: no .. apt-get.org .. it's a website |
| 03:13.17 | danamania | asg: dang. could be a PPC peculiarity |
| 03:13.20 | asg | abrotman: M>N|B |
| 03:13.24 | shiftless | i know |
| 03:13.26 | shiftless | didnt find one there |
| 03:13.27 | asg | danamania: perhaps, maybe #debianppc can verify |
| 03:13.35 | at0m|c | asg, danamania: works here |
| 03:13.38 | abrotman | asg: more seepage ? |
| 03:13.38 | shiftless | all i can find is eclipse 2.1.. what's this java-install deal? |
| 03:13.38 | mwilson | gteppel: It's been dropped. |
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| 03:13.52 | asg | abrotman: looks that way |
| 03:14.00 | stew | shiftless: there isn't one, but its a simple install, you just have to untar eclipse into /usr/local or /opt, once you get java installed /msg dpkg java |
| 03:14.00 | Marble2 | anyone know why my samba share is getting permission errors when I try to access it from my windows machine? |
| 03:14.11 | mwilson | gteppel: For whatever reason, mdadm was determined to be better for the clueless. |
| 03:14.22 | abrotman | asg: molson is better than natual bohemain ? |
| 03:14.33 | mwilson | Marble2: Gee, probably because the permissions aren't correct. Imagine that! |
| 03:14.39 | abrotman | shiftless: install java .. install manually |
| 03:14.42 | stew | natural bohemian is from the land of pleasant living, or so it says on the bottle |
| 03:14.46 | danamania | okee - thanks all :) |
| 03:14.47 | shiftless | i have java installed already.. so i presume the eclipse tar will include a java-based install program? |
| 03:14.54 | gothtec | How do I write 192.168.* as numbers and dots followed by /another number? Dunno what it's called :( |
| 03:14.55 | asg | abrotman: I'd find it hard to claim molson is better than anything. |
| 03:14.58 | Marble2 | mwilson: where in my smb.conf would I set the correct permissions? |
| 03:15.10 | abrotman | asg: ever had natural bohemian ? |
| 03:15.15 | asg | gothtec: 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 03:15.19 | stew | shiftless: iirc it doesn't include an installer, you just untar it |
| 03:15.25 | PerKlunk | Where can I get the source code for dpkg and all the messages so I can have my own? |
| 03:15.31 | abrotman | gothtec: google for netmask |
| 03:15.45 | abrotman | shiftless: i believe so .. works fine here . |
| 03:15.47 | mwilson | Marble2: man 5 smb.conf |
| 03:15.48 | stew | PerKlunk: blootbot.sf.net ; /msg dpkg your factoids |
| 03:15.49 | asg | abrotman: no, remember, I live in the boonies where it's hard to get anything that doesn't approach some form of Budweiser. |
| 03:15.55 | shiftless | ok guys, thanks for the info |
| 03:16.00 | abrotman | asg: it's worse than bud |
| 03:16.05 | abrotman | asg: by a lot |
| 03:16.06 | stew | PerKlunk: err, /msg dpkg my factoids |
| 03:16.12 | sussudio | !tell gothtec about search |
| 03:16.17 | abrotman | stew: both shoudl work |
| 03:16.19 | sussudio | !info ipcalc |
| 03:16.22 | dpkg | ipcalc: (Parameter calculator for IPv4 addresses), section net, is optional. Version: 0.37-1 (sid), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 60 kB |
| 03:16.34 | asg | abrotman: ouch |
| 03:16.55 | stew | !your factoids is <reply> My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. |
| 03:16.56 | dpkg | stew: i already had it that way |
| 03:16.59 | abrotman | asg: kind of like mixing piss and beer .. and a tablespoon of dirt :) |
| 03:17.00 | stew | hrm |
| 03:17.05 | stew | didn't work when i tried it |
| 03:17.07 | abrotman | stew: they both work! |
| 03:17.11 | abrotman | i said that already |
| 03:17.15 | asg | abrotman: I'll take your word for that. |
| 03:17.21 | stew | err, didn't work when i misspelled it the first time :) |
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| 03:17.24 | abrotman | asg: i blame high school :) |
| 03:17.36 | abrotman | stew: damn your fingers .. i'll cut them off! |
| 03:17.48 | stew | abrotman: thats not really going to help, you know |
| 03:17.50 | gothtec | abrotman: okay.. I found a page and read a little... Would I be correct in saying 192.168.0.0/16 includes every ip starting with 192.168? |
| 03:18.01 | asg | abrotman: :) |
| 03:18.03 | gothtec | abrotman: just want to be sure... |
| 03:18.07 | abrotman | gothtec: yes |
| 03:18.12 | gothtec | yay |
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| 03:21.39 | rob_lt | Would minicom be a good utility to recommend for communicating with cisco routers via serial link? |
| 03:21.44 | abrotman | that's one |
| 03:21.48 | abrotman | kermit is another |
| 03:22.02 | rob_lt | abrotman: ok, how 'bout gtkterm? |
| 03:22.18 | cafuego | gothtec: See also 'apt-get install ipcalc; ipcalc 192.168.0.0/16' |
| 03:22.31 | abrotman | rob_lt: dunno .. |
| 03:22.41 | abrotman | isn't that just a terminal emulator like xterm ? |
| 03:23.08 | rob_lt | it claims to be a clone of hyperterminal |
| 03:23.19 | deadcat | whats wrong with screen? |
| 03:23.33 | abrotman | i think you guys are confusing needs |
| 03:23.39 | mwilson | Is there some reason why minicom doesn't do the job, that you have to look for something else? |
| 03:23.39 | rob_lt | I've used hyperterminal with an HC11, but on a windows box |
| 03:24.25 | rob_lt | mwilson: none at all, just giving a few options. It is for my father, who is just making the transition from windows, so I want both CLI and GUI options for him. |
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| 03:24.41 | abrotman | your router requires a gui ? |
| 03:24.46 | mwilson | Oh, brother... another forced move to Linux. |
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| 03:25.30 | rob_lt | it's not a forced move.... he teaches the telecomms course at the college, and thought it would be fun to dual boot linux on his lappy |
| 03:25.50 | mwilson | Your father is someone who needs to communicate with Cisco routers via console, and YOU are making choices about what application he should use? |
| 03:25.51 | stew | he can probably handle minicom then |
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| 03:26.14 | rob_lt | mwilson: how is suggesting apps "making choices"? Keep shaking your head |
| 03:26.32 | abrotman | rob_lt: i only know of minicom and kermit |
| 03:27.00 | rob_lt | abrotman: thanks alot, I'll add kermit to the list of apps he can check out and see if they fit his needs, since I'm not 100% sure exactly what he is looking for. |
| 03:27.16 | mwilson | I swear, Linux would be SO much better off if all the advocates were shot. |
| 03:27.20 | abrotman | rob_lt: you're going to have to search for it .. it's actually called gkermit or ckermit or something |
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| 03:27.58 | rob_lt | abrotman: right, the description for gkermit shows that ckermit is a non-free package with a few additional features |
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| 03:28.10 | abrotman | rob_lt: yep .. that's it |
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| 03:28.38 | mwilson | Somehow I think ckermit has more than a "few" features over gkermit. |
| 03:28.42 | rob_lt | abrotman: thanks again |
| 03:28.54 | anhi | how can i get the boot parameters a running kernel was started with? |
| 03:29.03 | rob_lt | mwilson: whatever |
| 03:30.01 | erps | Uhmm.. how do I make exim4 listen so I can send mail via my server from my client? Blasted thing doesn't seem to be listening to my external IPs, either that or I'm blocking port 25 .. which I don't think I am. localhost telnet to 25 works -- remote telnet to 25 doesn't. |
| 03:30.28 | Agrajag- | is your ISP blocking port 25? |
| 03:30.35 | erps | no |
| 03:30.36 | Agrajag- | lots of isp's do |
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| 03:30.50 | mwilson | Agrajag-: I doubt he knows, one way or the other. |
| 03:30.54 | erps | Hmm, but on that note. How can I change the port exim listens on? |
| 03:31.06 | mwilson | erps: You don't. What good would it do you? |
| 03:31.06 | rob_lt | anhi: does dmesg show anything? |
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| 03:31.17 | cafuego | erps: That would be a pointless exercise. |
| 03:31.30 | anhi | rob_lt: ah, you are my savior :D |
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| 03:31.47 | erps | mwilson, Ok, then I'm obviously asking the wrong question. |
| 03:31.50 | dx_ | hey nut sack |
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| 03:32.00 | erps | mwilson, btw, thanks for insulting me. Much appreciated. |
| 03:32.10 | dx_ | go ahead and say something so i can interrupt you |
| 03:32.21 | mwilson | erps: If I'd insulted you, you'd know. |
| 03:32.27 | cafuego | erps: You need 1) to get your ISP to not block port 25 or 2) an extrnal server that is reachable on port 25. |
| 03:32.32 | cafuego | erps: There is no 3). |
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| 03:32.59 | makaveli | ok i have a problem i am using gaim and when i click on the "x" to close gaim it used to go to the panel i accidently click removed from panel when it was there and now when i close gaim it shut down the program i can't find the minimize to tray option anywhere in gaim and i can't figure out how to get it back to where it was |
| 03:32.59 | at0m|c | installed a home server last weekend, running irc in screen on it |
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| 03:33.17 | at0m|c | i wonder what's the fastest gui counterpart for that.. |
| 03:33.28 | cafuego | erps: Well, *maybe* you can do something funky with tunneling through ssh. |
| 03:33.32 | erps | cafuego, having used smtp on 2525 w/ qmail -- I don't see how that's "not possible" unless exim4 is seriously lacking in features or I do not fully comprehend what exim4 pretends to do. It's an MTA correct. From what I can tell it handles both POP3 and the SMTP side of things. |
| 03:33.37 | hooopy | oh man |
| 03:33.41 | hooopy | debian is nice |
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| 03:34.00 | cafuego | erps: You *obly* want to use it for reote access into the system, not accepting mail at large? |
| 03:34.04 | gartt | hooopy: Any reason? :P |
| 03:34.14 | hooopy | no compiling source |
| 03:34.16 | erps | cafuego, I'd like it to be able to accept mail at large. |
| 03:34.32 | mwilson | erps: When did exim become a POP server? Were you going to tell its program author? He doesn't know that. |
| 03:34.46 | erps | mwilson, oh fuck off dickhead |
| 03:34.54 | cafuego | erps: Then using port 2525 will be pointless. Remote servers send to port 25 and there's no way to tell them all to use 2525 instead for your domain. |
| 03:34.59 | gartt | What's wrong with compiling? |
| 03:35.00 | Guerin | erps: well, it's a good question. |
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| 03:35.36 | gartt | Just a different approach-pros and cons to each |
| 03:35.39 | rob_lt | mwilson: why so glum, chum? No cum in bum? |
| 03:35.40 | erps | cafuego, true, but making it able to listen on both would be useful. |
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| 03:36.02 | erps | cafuego, it's not accepting it. FROM the same server if I telnet localhost 25 --> the mail server responds. If I telnet theserversip 25 -- from the server the SMTP server does not respond. Now I could be entirely not looking in the right place. I'll admit that. |
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| 03:36.08 | Agrajag- | that's a good one rob_lt, i'll have to remember it... |
| 03:36.16 | Agrajag- | or perhaps.. not |
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| 03:36.24 | erps | cafuego, but somehow I got it in my head that exim had something to do with that. But apparently I'm wrong. |
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| 03:36.39 | cafuego | erps: Check if it's listening on all IPs via 'sudo netstat -nap' |
| 03:36.40 | rob_lt | Agrajag-: I forget where I got that from, but it always makes me laugh :) |
| 03:36.55 | Agrajag- | i was kidding it's retarded |
| 03:37.01 | oneo | hey all - i just got my wireless card working and i can ping the router okay, but when i ping google.com, i get "unknown host"...however, when i resolve google's ip with my windows machine then tell my debian box to ping google's ip, it works fine...anyone know what could be wrong here? |
| 03:37.02 | cafuego | erps: (exim doesn't do pop, btw) |
| 03:37.08 | rob_lt | mwilson: I'm just having fun, no harm intended |
| 03:37.10 | mo1991 | Can anyone help me with this error - I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to reconfigure x and get --output-fd: unknown option |
| 03:37.13 | mo1991 | any ideas? |
| 03:37.16 | erps | cafuego :p noticed that from the asshat responses I got. |
| 03:37.22 | mwilson | Apparently erps has moved POP3 from port 110 to port 25. |
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| 03:37.28 | cafuego | oneo: /etc/resolv.conf needs a dns server entry |
| 03:37.39 | mo1991 | then says debconf: whiptail ouput to the above errors, giving up |
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| 03:38.00 | Guerin | !tell erps about mail tutorial |
| 03:38.16 | erps | mwilson, oh for fucks sake --POP3 is working just fine on port 110. |
| 03:38.16 | Guerin | erps: you need to get some of your fundamentals straight. |
| 03:38.21 | erps | mwilson, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SMTP SERVER YOU DUMBASS. |
| 03:38.25 | erps | Guerin, I got them straight. |
| 03:38.40 | mwilson | Guerin: Oh, come on... you know he wants to just throw yet another open relay out there for the spammers to use. |
| 03:38.41 | bob2 | erps: what ip is this server on? |
| 03:38.42 | erps | The only thing I don't have straight apparently is what the hell exim does or does not do. |
| 03:38.43 | Guerin | erps: sure, that's why you think a mail server and a popd are the same thing. |
| 03:38.57 | mwilson | Guerin: He doesn't need a tutorial for that. |
| 03:39.02 | oneo | cafuego - ah thats it! thanks a bunch |
| 03:39.06 | erps | mwilson, I would prefer not to set up an open relay for spammers to use. |
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| 03:39.08 | bob2 | erps: no MTA does pop or imap |
| 03:39.13 | bob2 | erps: MTA = handling SMTP |
| 03:39.15 | Guerin | mwilson: no, he could just install qmail :) |
| 03:39.26 | mwilson | erps: Oddly enough, that's why exim comes with extensive documentation, so that you CAN "have straight" what exim does and does not do. |
| 03:39.45 | whiskers | ack, i configured x and it doesnt work, how to do reconfigure the x-window-system |
| 03:39.55 | bob2 | whiskers: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 03:39.55 | stew | !drxx whiskers |
| 03:39.55 | dpkg | whiskers: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 03:40.06 | whiskers | okie! |
| 03:40.07 | erps | bob2, fine, then at least I'm asking the write questions when it comes to SMTP and exim. |
| 03:40.13 | gothtec | erps: Row, row, row yer boat, gently down the streeeeeam... Good luck rowin' out've t'is 'un, mate |
| 03:40.18 | erps | I wasn't asking how to set up exim as a POP server - so I have my POP server working just fine. |
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| 03:40.25 | bob2 | erps: except smtp only works on port 25 |
| 03:40.36 | mwilson | erps: Actually you were. |
| 03:40.37 | erps | mwilson, look asswhipe, if your not going to help, shut your fucking yap. |
| 03:40.47 | bob2 | erps: if your isp blocks it, you are screed and you have to find a relay outside their network |
| 03:40.51 | bob2 | erps: mwilson enough |
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| 03:41.39 | erps | bob2 -- So it's impossible to set exim up to listen to both 25 and 2525? |
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| 03:41.52 | CyL | exit |
| 03:41.56 | ardy | When I connect my Muvo mp3 to my computer I get the error 'dusb 1-6: device not accepting address 9 , error -71' |
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| 03:41.59 | Guerin | why the fuck would you? |
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| 03:42.05 | ardy | does any one know how to fix this |
| 03:42.21 | Agrajag- | erps: you probably can, but what's the point. nothing outside is going to know to send mail to your 2525. smtp is on 25, end of story |
| 03:42.22 | bob2 | erps: it's possible but pointless |
| 03:42.26 | bob2 | erps: what are you trying to do? |
| 03:42.32 | erps | Guerin, lets see. 25 so that other servers can talk to it. 2525 so I can direct my mail client to send to 2525. |
| 03:42.32 | whiskers | peeks around, im being asked how much video ram i have, but i dont know the amount in kb! |
| 03:42.45 | Spundun | hi all... |
| 03:42.46 | mo1991 | Can anyone help me with this error - I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to reconfigure x and get --output-fd: unknown option |
| 03:42.48 | Spundun | when will the firefox on debian sarge have pango backend? |
| 03:42.56 | bob2 | erps: why don't you send to 25? |
| 03:43.02 | Guerin | erps: WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST SEND MAIL FROM YOUR CLIENT TO 25 |
| 03:43.05 | bob2 | whiskers: leave it blank |
| 03:43.07 | Guerin | LIKE NORMAL, SANE PEOPLE DO? |
| 03:43.11 | Guerin | bah |
| 03:43.13 | Guerin | sorry |
| 03:43.16 | bob2 | Spundun: presumably after sarge if it doesn't already |
| 03:43.25 | erps | Guerin :p "if your ISP blocks 25" in that case sending to 2525 is a workaround. |
| 03:43.30 | mwilson | Spundun: When Firefox actually (a) has a Pango backend, and (b) someone uploads it. |
| 03:43.43 | Guerin | erps: there's a secondary smtp port, iirc ... 758? |
| 03:43.43 | bob2 | erps: they block *outgoing* port 25 but not incoming? |
| 03:43.45 | erps | bob2, and I'd be just happy to send to 25. Minus the fact that exim is not listening on 25. |
| 03:43.47 | mwilson | Guerin: He just doesn't get it. |
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| 03:43.59 | bob2 | erps: if exim is not on port 25, it will not do anything useful |
| 03:44.10 | bob2 | erps: no one will be able to send mail to it |
| 03:44.26 | erps | bob2, I realize that. I'm not saying move it from 25 to something else. I'm saying make it able to listen on both 25 and something else. |
| 03:44.36 | bob2 | erps: but *why*? |
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| 03:44.45 | erps | bob2, we already went over this. |
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| 03:44.51 | bob2 | you don't seem to be explaining your aim very well |
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| 03:45.06 | gartt | bob2: you can have it run on port 25 locally, then just forward the public port as something else |
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| 03:45.26 | mwilson | gartt: Except that you can't, of course. |
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| 03:45.53 | erps | mwilson, except there are plenty of hosts out there that do and can, so end of that argument. |
| 03:45.54 | Spundun | mwilson: Firefox *has* pango backend, but it needs to be enabled at configure time. |
| 03:45.55 | gartt | mwilson: Why not? |
| 03:45.58 | [Roosta] | <bob2> erps: they block *outgoing* port 25 but not incoming? |
| 03:46.02 | [Roosta] | my ISP does that |
| 03:46.17 | erps | [Roosta] doesn't block squat. My ISP blocking anything is not the problem at the moment. |
| 03:46.21 | calyth | Question... I'm using 2.6. I'm mounting a loop device as msdos. I have the umsdos package. What the heck do I have to do to get the long filenames to work? I still have files with the .{XX extension |
| 03:46.24 | [Roosta] | <erps> bob2 -- So it's impossible to set exim up to listen to both 25 and 2525? |
| 03:46.26 | Spundun | bob2: see my comment above |
| 03:46.30 | [Roosta] | its not pointless |
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| 03:46.36 | bob2 | Spundun: yes, I know it's possible |
| 03:46.41 | bob2 | other distros have enabled it already |
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| 03:46.51 | bob2 | erps: why do you want to listen on port 2525 then? |
| 03:46.53 | erps | bob2, My Original Goal -- When I first came here. Was to figure out why exim is NOT listening on port 25 -- hell it's NOT listening on anything to ANY of my IPs. So obviously I'm not configuring something corretly. |
| 03:46.57 | Spundun | bob2: yeah, e.g. FC3 |
| 03:47.04 | bob2 | erps: er |
| 03:47.12 | bob2 | erps: this is exim3 aka the exim package? |
| 03:47.19 | erps | bob2, exim4 but yah. |
| 03:47.21 | [Roosta] | the biggest reason to enable exim to listen on a second port would be for clients who's ISP block outgoing port 25 |
| 03:47.28 | mwilson | Huh... didn't know Pango'd infected crapfox. Ah, well, another reason to stay away from it. |
| 03:47.32 | Spundun | bob2: so you are saying its not going to be in sarge, but it will be in the next unstable tree? |
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| 03:47.57 | bob2 | erps: so, not exim3 at all then. and accordint to "sudo netstat -plunt | grep 25", it's not listening on port 25, with a *default* configuration? |
| 03:48.01 | bob2 | Spundun: no |
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| 03:48.36 | Spundun | bob2: then? |
| 03:48.54 | erps | bob2, correct, it is only listening on 127.0.0.1:25 |
| 03:49.35 | bob2 | erps: and during config you told it you wanted an "internet system" or whatever they call it? |
| 03:49.37 | Solet-deb | is etch forcasted to be 3.2 or are they toying with the idea of changing it up a lot and moving to 4.0? |
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| 03:50.02 | Subvertir | NEW AND IMPROVED DEBIAN 4.0 |
| 03:50.07 | bob2 | Solet-deb: major/minor bump is fairly randomly determined |
| 03:50.13 | ardy | When I connect my Muvo mp3 to my computer I get the error 'usb 1-6: device not accepting address 9 , error -71' does anyone know how to fix this? I am using a 2.6.8 kernel |
| 03:50.28 | rob_lt | do an nmap -sS 127.0.0.1 and see if a smtp service is running on port 25 |
| 03:50.40 | [Timmeh] | how to wget a whole directory? |
| 03:50.43 | furrywolf | are you plugging it into a hub, or directly into your computer? have you tried another cable? batteries good? etc. |
| 03:50.45 | erps | bob2, I installed it via aptitude - and don't recall ever having received that question. I'd assume that yes I would have. Since it's intended to be a networked/internet system. |
| 03:50.54 | K_Dallas | Does debian.org offer t-shirts, caps, etc to buy from? |
| 03:51.04 | Solet-deb | furrywolf muvo's dont have batteries |
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| 03:51.13 | Solet-deb | well... not when plugging into the pc they dont... |
| 03:51.19 | mwilson | K_Dallas: No. |
| 03:51.21 | linuxbomb | K_Dallas, I'll sell you a t-shirt right now |
| 03:51.26 | K_Dallas | :) |
| 03:51.27 | rob_lt | erps: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 03:51.27 | bob2 | erps: sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 03:51.35 | erps | thanks |
| 03:51.35 | furrywolf | what kind of mp3 player doesn't have batteries? |
| 03:51.36 | bob2 | K_Dallas: no, but other people do |
| 03:51.51 | K_Dallas | it would be nice to buy it directly from them |
| 03:51.54 | bob2 | [Timmeh]: man wget, the -r option or --mirror option might be interesting |
| 03:52.03 | [Timmeh] | thnx |
| 03:52.14 | Spundun | bob2: you said "presumably after sarge if it doesn't already" . It doesnt at the moment (I am using sarge, results from a bout 2 weeks back) so then it will be in after sarge? what does that mean? next unstable tree? |
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| 03:52.27 | erps | rob_lt, yes an smtp service is on 127.0.0.1 :p as already stated |
| 03:52.28 | bob2 | Spundun: ? |
| 03:52.37 | bob2 | Spundun: presumably it will be enabled after sarge releases then |
| 03:52.46 | gothtec | bob2: doesn't the -r option on wget just follow links? |
| 03:52.49 | Solet-deb | furry wolf google nomad muvo |
| 03:52.50 | mwilson | What does "next unstable tree" mean? There is only one unstable tree. |
| 03:52.53 | bob2 | Spundun: there is and has only ever been (in the past few years, anyway) one unstable tree |
| 03:53.07 | Solet-deb | furrywolf: the muvo is basicly a flash drive the plugs into a batter pack |
| 03:53.07 | bob2 | gothtec: what else can wget do? http doesn't know about directory listings. |
| 03:53.21 | gothtec | bob2: exactly. oh well... he'll figure it out |
| 03:53.22 | rob_lt | erps: ok :) I did an nmap on my 192.168.0.3 addy, and it didn't show up there. I chose the "local delivery - not on a network" option during the exim config |
| 03:53.32 | Spundun | bob2: I guess I dont understand how debian package trees jargon is used. |
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| 03:53.54 | furrywolf | solet: I was just giving generic usb gizmo communication problem advice. :) |
| 03:54.12 | Spundun | bob2: so you are saying it will be in unstable after sarge is out? |
| 03:54.28 | Solet-deb | furrywolf: still, check out the nomad muvo, muvo mx, and muvo mx fm |
| 03:54.36 | furrywolf | why? |
| 03:54.37 | Solet-deb | they are pretty bad add little contraptions |
| 03:54.56 | furrywolf | what use do I have for one? and what money would I buy one with? |
| 03:55.13 | mwilson | Spundun: You talk like there's some sort of schedule for it. |
| 03:55.46 | erps | mwilson, now that we've tossed mean messages back and forth. So I don't set up an open relay - since I am not personally familiar with exim4 -- having traditionally been a qmail user, but decided to give exim4 a chance. Is there anything in particular you'd recommend I should read for help on configuring exim4 so it doesn't act as an open relay? |
| 03:55.46 | bob2 | Spundun: presumably. if you want a "YES ON THIS DATE" answer, email the maintainer, I guess. |
| 03:55.54 | Solet-deb | furrywolf: i'm not saying buy one... (if you have the money by all means go for it i own 2) i'm just saying check it out to drool at its glory for a moment or 2 |
| 03:55.55 | furrywolf | how do you make bittornado kill a connection to a given peer? |
| 03:56.07 | erps | mwilson, and whatfor apologies for returning the favor of being an asshat. Was immature of me. |
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| 03:56.27 | Solet-deb | furrywolf: bit tornado (unless the linux version is different) doesnt have that capability |
| 03:56.28 | mwilson | erps: I've already suggested you read the documentation it comes with... apparently that would be beneath you. |
| 03:56.39 | Spundun | bob2: yeah you are right, thanks for the info. |
| 03:57.00 | furrywolf | I'm seeing some new client that sends exactly 30KB, which is enough to make bittornado/bittorrent/etc give them priority for uploads, then doesn't send a single byte until you stop sending them data, in which case they send you exactly 30K again... |
| 03:57.11 | bob2 | Spundun: ('m pretty sure it won't be very far in the future, tho, since all the other cool kids are doing it, and it does do nice font stuff) |
| 03:57.19 | bob2 | furrywolf: oh, wow |
| 03:57.20 | furrywolf | fucking worthless leeches need to be clubbed with a cluebyfour... |
| 03:57.31 | bob2 | furrywolf: firewall them? |
| 03:57.40 | furrywolf | bob2: they have parts of the file I don't have. :P |
| 03:57.49 | bob2 | erps: if you use the configuration menu thing, it won't be an open relay |
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| 03:58.09 | Spundun | bob2: Actually its essential for me because I work on gujarati wikipedia and indic font rendering in gecko's native renderer sucks, pango is pretty good |
| 03:58.17 | Solet-deb | omfg, you said cluebyfour... *crys for a minute* an old friend i havent seen in a year or so used to say that all the time |
| 03:58.19 | Subvertir | look someone has to subsidize my spamming operation |
| 03:58.26 | Subvertir | who better than that dude? |
| 03:58.27 | bob2 | Spundun: ahh |
| 03:58.43 | bob2 | Spundun: does regular firefox just not render gujarati at all, or do a really bad job? |
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| 03:58.48 | doub | furrywolf: maybe shape bandwidth to them then. even if it's not easy |
| 03:59.00 | bob2 | furrywolf: hah |
| 03:59.06 | mwilson | Spundun: So if it's so essential, build the package yourself with whatever options you think it should have. |
| 03:59.09 | doub | furrywolf: like, 30k sent for 30k received |
| 03:59.10 | furrywolf | that sounds like the "too much work" option. |
| 03:59.11 | Spundun | mwilson: I was inquiring like that because bob2 sounded like he might have nice specifics about it, read my last msg if you want to know why its important for me. |
| 03:59.23 | erps | mwilson: have read the man documentation. And over time yes I will read the rest of the documentation more thoroughly. reading something written by an experienced user and source can be useful and educational. Because odds are that I'm dumb enough that despite reading the documentation, I'll miss something. |
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| 03:59.52 | doub | furrywolf: yeah, bandwidth shaping should be easyer to setup |
| 03:59.53 | ziad | anyone knows if a hash exists for a 13 bit all capital letters non numeric string ? |
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| 04:00.00 | bob2 | erps: there do need to be more "bootstrap guides" that assume you know the gist of linux but just want to learn one particular topic, imho |
| 04:00.07 | stupidkid | Is there a fake random ident server people? |
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| 04:00.15 | bob2 | ziad: you can hash any data... |
| 04:00.18 | Spundun | mwilson: I dont use debian everyday, but I would hate to have to tell my friend that if you want to checkout my contributions on gu: wikipedia, better use a specific linux distro |
| 04:00.20 | bob2 | stupidkid: pidentd does that, iirc |
| 04:00.28 | omi_ | if my x86 box had unlimited pci slots, what's the limit on PHYSICAL network interfaces that 2.6 can handle? |
| 04:00.29 | stupidkid | oh |
| 04:00.34 | stupidkid | thanks bob |
| 04:00.42 | ziad | bob2: well I am trying to figure out if its a hash ? |
| 04:00.47 | bob2 | ziad: ah |
| 04:00.50 | zinx | omi_: there may not be a limit |
| 04:00.53 | bob2 | omi_: lots |
| 04:00.55 | omi_ | nice |
| 04:01.05 | bob2 | omi_: you'll saturate the PCI bus pretty quickly, tho |
| 04:01.11 | mwilson | What would the number of PCI slots have to do with it? |
| 04:01.13 | omi_ | assuming that's not the problem |
| 04:01.17 | bob2 | mwilson: please? |
| 04:01.27 | Spundun | mwilson: I use mac osx, sarge and fc3 on three diffferent machines |
| 04:01.28 | ziad | bob2: like say u have a pwd with 13 bit, all capital letters , no numerics, can u tell which hash or pwd format is it ? |
| 04:01.33 | vinay | why dont i ever have a /usr/share/dict/words file? :-S |
| 04:01.35 | omi_ | absolute maximum (if there's a hard limit somewhere inthe coe) |
| 04:01.39 | omi_ | code* |
| 04:01.45 | doub | stupidkid: why would you like to do so? |
| 04:01.55 | bob2 | omi_: #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net might know the hard limit |
| 04:02.03 | Spundun | anyways.. thanks for the help, I will mail the maintainers, just in case they are not aware. bob2, mwilson |
| 04:02.08 | stupidkid | some server require ident to connect |
| 04:02.08 | mwilson | bob2: It's a reasonable question. Why would the number of PCI slots be any sort of limiting factor on the number of network interfaces? Network interfaces don't have to be PCI devices. |
| 04:02.09 | bob2 | omi_: I'd be very surprised i fit was < 255, tho |
| 04:02.15 | bob2 | stupidkid: np, good luck. |
| 04:02.16 | zinx | ziad: are you aware that "13 bit" is 1 and a 5/8ths of a character? |
| 04:02.38 | erps | bob2, yah. Either the guides are dumb and assume you know squat - or they're the manual :p The manual is nice and all, but often doesn't make sense to completely reinvent the wheel of discovery. |
| 04:03.08 | omi_ | bob2, depends if the implementation has a limit or if it's something like an expandable array |
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| 04:03.45 | bob2 | erps: right, especially for things like network services, where you know the gist of using it, but not the jargon or specifics of running it |
| 04:03.52 | bob2 | omi_: sure |
| 04:03.56 | bjb_ | Is it true that if I want to have apcupsd running on both stable and unstable and talking to each other, I have to run the same version on stable and unstable? |
| 04:03.56 | omi_ | where would I be able to get source code for ifconfig? |
| 04:04.09 | zinx | ziad: or if you're taking the range in to account, it would take 2.76569869619372099688 capital letters to equal 13 bits |
| 04:04.10 | doub | omi_: if there's a limit, it wouldn't depend on the if being physical or not, i guess |
| 04:04.10 | useruser | vinay: seems the packages dictionaries-common and wbritish provide that for me |
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| 04:04.39 | omi_ | what I was thinking regarding physical limit is in drivers of some devices they have a variable MAX_DEVICES |
| 04:04.46 | doub | omi_: apt-get source <package> where package is what dpkg -S /sbin/ifconfig says |
| 04:05.07 | vinay | useruser: dictionaries-common is what it says SHOULD provide it for me... but when I apt-get --reinstall ... it doesn't show up |
| 04:05.10 | bob2 | omi_: it's in the net-tools package |
| 04:05.11 | ziad | zinx: sounds bout right, and yes, so it might not be a hash, and thats what I am trying to figure out |
| 04:05.16 | zinx | ziad: for what it's worth, if it's 13 *bytes* that are all capitals, no numbers/lowercase/etc, it's probably an ircII encode()'d string |
| 04:05.27 | omi_ | doub, thanks, omi realized deb-src entry could be useful :) |
| 04:05.35 | zinx | ziad: if it's bits, then how the hell are you measuring it to get 13 in the first place? |
| 04:05.48 | omi_ | how large is unstable-src to mirror? |
| 04:06.01 | bob2 | omi_: 10GB/arch or so |
| 04:06.04 | bob2 | maybe a bit less |
| 04:06.20 | useruser | vinay: maybe it's an alternatives thing. /usr/share/dict/words -> /etc/dictionaries-common/words -> /usr/share/dict/british-english for me |
| 04:06.27 | omi_ | binary is 9.3 gb if I remember correctly, shouldn't source be MUCH larger even if it's compressed? |
| 04:06.46 | ziad | zinx: ezactly, it could just be a pwd |
| 04:07.08 | doub | omi_: text compression is much more efficient than binary, iirc |
| 04:07.12 | vinay | useruser: mine points to /usr/share/dict/american-english .. which is missing ... i check packages.debian.org .. |
| 04:07.16 | omi_ | true |
| 04:07.20 | zinx | ziad: if you paste it, i can check |
| 04:07.30 | ziad | zinx: oups, sorry, its an encrypted pwd |
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| 04:07.37 | omi_ | but things compiled are even smaller |
| 04:07.48 | doub | omi_: besides, some of the binary packages are multiple versions of the same source |
| 04:07.56 | vinay | useruser: had to wengilsh .. that did it ! .. thanks :-)... they need to make that a dependency of dictionaries-common |
| 04:08.04 | ziad | zinx: can I private msg you ? |
| 04:08.07 | omi_ | doub, hmm good point |
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| 04:08.10 | zinx | ziad: sure |
| 04:08.34 | doub | omi_: but anyway, just look at the source file, and a little perl one liner can sum up the size for you, i gues |
| 04:09.04 | doub | omi_: s/gues/guess/ |
| 04:09.05 | CO-DWS-CR-PCR | what do you mind |
| 04:09.29 | omi_ | damn, don't have another 10 gb, how can you resize LVM |
| 04:09.29 | doub | CO-DWS-CR-PCR: a lot of things. what about you? |
| 04:09.53 | doub | omi_: an lvm PV ? it's impossible |
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| 04:10.53 | Solet-deb | can some one help me make a swap partition... i some how missed doing it when i installed :/ |
| 04:11.14 | omi_ | what;s PV? |
| 04:11.42 | doub | omi_: physical volume. you're talking about logical volume managment, right? |
| 04:11.46 | omi_ | yeah |
| 04:12.14 | doub | omi_: so what do you want to resize ? lv or pv? |
| 04:12.19 | omi_ | I'm not sure on exact terminology, but I think I want to resize LV |
| 04:12.28 | doub | omi_: lv is simply lvextend or lvreduce |
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| 04:12.40 | omi_ | doub, I used sarge install to make MD (raid) then LVM on top |
| 04:12.50 | doub | omi_: but be shure to reduce the partition first |
| 04:13.10 | doub | omi_: i'm tired s/partition/file system/ |
| 04:13.16 | omi_ | so I reduce one volume, then increase the other |
| 04:14.41 | doub | well, qotd time |
| 04:14.43 | doub | !qotd |
| 04:14.43 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". |
| 04:14.48 | doub | !qotd0 |
| 04:14.48 | dpkg | <hotdog> how do i join the debian channel? |
| 04:14.56 | doub | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.58 | omi_ | lol |
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| 04:15.34 | doub | !qotd42 |
| 04:15.34 | dpkg | [qotd42] * ravenbird whips out his power stapler and staples jetscreamer's genitalia to the ground <jetscreamer> musta been a very large staple |
| 04:16.01 | doub | !qotd108 |
| 04:16.01 | dpkg | <drp> is there a command to allow me to see lan printers < greycat> drp: yes. "Joe! Show me that printer!" < greycat> substitute "Joe" with the name of your LAN adminsitrator < drp> lol |
| 04:16.09 | Xinux | guys |
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| 04:16.13 | erps | Thanks to those who helped - exim is now successfully listening on 25. Now to set spamassassin/clam/etc back up and set up an alternative port to listen on for when I'm at a location that doesn't let me use port 25 (like a net cafe) |
| 04:16.15 | Xinux | wat is better: Athlon or Intel ? |
| 04:16.17 | useruser | Solet-deb: you can extract the instructions from here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-preparing.en.html#s-linux-upgrade |
| 04:16.48 | grahamoz | hey when is there going to be kde 3.4 for debian ? |
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| 04:17.33 | doub | grahamoz: wir |
| 04:17.34 | erps | which apparently isn't possible, but we'll see I suppose |
| 04:17.47 | grahamoz | what |
| 04:17.52 | doub | !wir |
| 04:17.53 | dpkg | it has been said that wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 04:17.53 | Solet-deb | grahamoz: /topic |
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| 04:18.20 | grahamoz | ih yeah the topic |
| 04:18.23 | grahamoz | *oh |
| 04:18.24 | doub | erps: you can use some firewall rule to redirect port whatever to 25 |
| 04:18.34 | omi_ | deb http:// pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0 ./ |
| 04:18.36 | omi_ | something like that |
| 04:19.08 | ethics | erps: exim-daemon-heavy? |
| 04:19.25 | erps | ethics, correct. |
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| 04:19.51 | erps | doub, yah that's what I was leaning towards. Be nice to have exim just do it, but *shrug* guess that's not going to happen. |
| 04:20.10 | erps | ethics, there a way to set it up with exim-daemon-heavy ? If there is I'm not catching it in the documentation |
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| 04:20.11 | ethics | erps: let me know if its hard hehe.i have it scheduled to be looked at next tuesday hehe |
| 04:20.26 | doub | erps: well, you can always modify the source if it's not in any config file |
| 04:20.29 | Solet-deb | is there a gui based program for partitioning a drive? |
| 04:20.45 | linuxbomb | Solet-deb, qtparted |
| 04:20.57 | useruser | Solet-deb: cfdisk |
| 04:21.07 | omi_ | lol |
| 04:21.08 | doub | erps: but what's wrong with a firewall redirect for this matter? |
| 04:21.16 | erps | ethics :p |
| 04:21.22 | ethics | erps: heavy = spamassain and clamAV interfaceable. but it havent set it up yet jjust installed on dev box...its playtime tuesday for that 8/ |
| 04:21.42 | erps | ethics, hah - already have it interfaced with spamassassin and clamAV, that was pretty easy. |
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| 04:21.53 | erps | doub, not much. Just more firewall rules to maintain is all. |
| 04:22.41 | ethics | erps: should i be looking at any other doco than the manpages etc |
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| 04:23.54 | doub | erps: well, i never do any. just changing some ports from time to time to enable some server app, but never more. if you want a simple and powerful iptables frontend, try uif |
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| 04:24.22 | doub | erps: it's easy to set up, and not a mess like a pure iptables setup shell script |
| 04:24.25 | Solet-deb | whats a good size for a swap partition? |
| 04:24.32 | erps | doub, cool thanks :) |
| 04:24.46 | dondelelcaro | Solet-deb: big enough to suit whatever it is that you're doing. |
| 04:24.56 | munga | I'm running my system on a raid0 array and today I've lost one sector in one partition in one of the two disks. Can I mark this sector as damaged and put the faulty disk back online in the array ? |
| 04:24.59 | dondelelcaro | Solet-deb: if you don't know, start at 1.5-2x ram |
| 04:25.52 | doub | dondelelcaro: isn't that too much with nowadays ram sizes? i have 512 mb here with an xfce desktop, it never uses more than 200 mb swap |
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| 04:26.40 | furrywolf | I have 4gb swap, and another 4gb I can swapon if I need it... |
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| 04:27.20 | dondelelcaro | doub: totally depends on what you're doing. |
| 04:27.41 | dondelelcaro | doub: FE, I have large, long lived processes that eat memory and are only used occasionally |
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| 04:28.05 | Hyperi | dpkg: ../../lib/dump.c:163: w_status: Assertion `pigp->eflag <= eflagv_reinstreq' failed. |
| 04:28.08 | Hyperi | E: Segmentation fault |
| 04:28.13 | Hyperi | Someone want to tell me why apt-get did that? :D |
| 04:28.20 | dondelelcaro | dpkg did, actually. |
| 04:28.30 | Hyperi | Ok dpkg. :P |
| 04:28.37 | Hyperi | But I used it through apt-get |
| 04:28.47 | Hyperi | Now I get this: |
| 04:28.48 | Hyperi | root@rogue:/# apt-get install request-tracker3.4 |
| 04:28.48 | Hyperi | E: Segmentation fault |
| 04:29.01 | fnx | hi...i just installed sarge, (switching from Mandrake 10.1) and it seems to have ignored half of my hardware......is there a nice graphical hardware manager anywhere? |
| 04:29.03 | furrywolf | run memtest86... |
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| 04:30.03 | Hyperi | Ok now apt-get gives me segmentation fault... |
| 04:30.21 | Solet | should swap be a primary or logical partition? |
| 04:30.27 | fnx | or will i have to get my hands dirty? |
| 04:30.27 | doub | fnx: there are lots of nice command line hardware managment tools (modprobe, rmmod, update-modules, /etc/modules to name a few) |
| 04:31.07 | doub | fnx: what are you doing with your keyboard, for it to get your hands dirty ? ;) |
| 04:31.18 | fnx | okay |
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| 04:31.28 | Azar | fnx debian configuration will give you a graphical |
| 04:31.34 | Hyperi | furrywolf: Can't install it through apt-get :/ |
| 04:32.00 | doub | Hyperi: is it doing it at random times? |
| 04:32.25 | doub | Hyperi: like you repeat the same command, it sometimes work, sometimes not? |
| 04:32.33 | Hyperi | Nopes |
| 04:32.45 | Hyperi | First it gave me till the install |
| 04:32.51 | Hyperi | Now when I type apt-get -> segm fault |
| 04:33.08 | Hyperi | THO |
| 04:33.17 | Hyperi | Update gives me the list, but ends in segm fault :/ |
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| 04:33.27 | doub | Hyperi: try running dpkg directly |
| 04:33.27 | Hyperi | And I only tried to install request tracker:D |
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| 04:33.45 | fnx | azar: how do i reach that? (i'm using KDE, not the mac-os looking thing it tries to default to) |
| 04:34.20 | Azar | fnx I am not using a gui interface, just from root command line I run debconf |
| 04:34.32 | fnx | oh right |
| 04:34.35 | fnx | thanks |
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| 04:34.50 | ardy | where can I find what usb error -71 is? |
| 04:35.12 | rob_lt | ardy: what kernel are you using? |
| 04:35.26 | zinx | ardy: probably -EPROTO |
| 04:35.27 | ardy | rob_lt: 2.6.8 |
| 04:35.30 | doub | fnx: well, you might want to install discover, if it's not there already. should take care of hardware for you |
| 04:36.15 | rob_lt | ardy: try the 2.6.11 from unstable, or even compile your own. I was having major usb issues with 2.6.8, but now I'm using a 2.6.12 kernel and am not having the same issues. |
| 04:36.21 | fnx | just apt-get install discover? |
| 04:36.36 | doub | fnx: yes |
| 04:36.42 | fnx | cool |
| 04:36.58 | doub | fnx: but it's installed in sarge by default |
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| 04:37.03 | doub | well, bed time. good night/day everybody, have a good time |
| 04:37.07 | ardy | rob_lt: huh ok... Its weird because other usb stuff works like my digital camera |
| 04:37.13 | mwilson | Oh, great... new X |
| 04:37.18 | fnx | cheers, doub |
| 04:37.42 | rob_lt | ardy: well, worth a shot. It's simple to upgrade with dpkg, and it keeps your 2.6.8 to fall back on. |
| 04:37.46 | rob_lt | ardy: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-image-2.6.11&searchon=names&subword=1&version=unstable&release=all |
| 04:37.55 | ethics | ardy what kind of device? |
| 04:37.57 | kraai | Could someone help me with some mailing list problems? |
| 04:38.07 | ardy | ethics: its a creative MuVo |
| 04:38.18 | ardy | rob_lt: sure I'll try it.. |
| 04:38.32 | ethics | ardy hehe i have 1 8) |
| 04:38.33 | Nigel | how can i list the files that are present in a .deb |
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| 04:38.45 | cafuego | Nigel: dpkg --contents foo.deb |
| 04:39.01 | Nigel | cafuego: thanks |
| 04:39.23 | ethics | ardy c100: i havent tried it with the linux box |
| 04:39.38 | ardy | ethics: oh.. |
| 04:39.46 | erps | ethics, found the config line: daemon_smtp_ports=portnumbers |
| 04:39.49 | Hyperi | Anyone know how can I resolve my problem? :/ |
| 04:39.51 | erps | not sure how it's delimited :p |
| 04:39.57 | omi_ | is there a tool that can dump LVM group+volume+partitions inside to a file so that I can clone this setup on another box (with some restore utility) ? |
| 04:40.15 | ethics | ardy: is it not mounting or does the error show in dmesg? |
| 04:40.29 | ethics | erfs prolly just spaces |
| 04:40.30 | peltron | hello, if you think .deb is far supperior to .rpm please say "I" |
| 04:40.32 | ardy | fnx: I installed discover:.. now what? |
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| 04:40.53 | omi_ | lol |
| 04:40.58 | furrywolf | !polls |
| 04:40.59 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 04:41.03 | peltron | sorry not to start a flame war |
| 04:41.05 | ardy | ethics: I'm using automount 4 but when I boot with it pluged in.. it says error -71 |
| 04:41.07 | cafuego | peltron: Did you have a debian question? |
| 04:41.10 | rob_lt | peltron: it's a tought crowd tonight |
| 04:41.20 | PerKlunk | !bad polls |
| 04:41.20 | dpkg | The reasons we hate polls are because: 1) they are a massive waste of IRC and bandwidth and screen real estate when asked in a 700 person channel. Did you want 700 answers? 2) They're often a prelude to isolating one helper and barraging him or her in /msg. BAD! |
| 04:41.31 | furrywolf | every single person in here thinks deb is far superior to rpm. that's why we're here. so figure 800 or so "I"s. |
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| 04:41.51 | PerKlunk | !start a binary script installation war |
| 04:41.59 | rob_lt | except the suse guy... were did he go? :) |
| 04:42.03 | ethics | ardy plug it in after boot and see what dmesg says |
| 04:42.08 | peltron | dpkg: sorry, after using it all day I needed to vent |
| 04:42.14 | ethics | i dont participate in unpaid surveys... |
| 04:42.37 | rob_lt | peltron: dpkg is a bot |
| 04:42.38 | peltron | dpkg: but I understand that's it's not what you want to hear |
| 04:42.39 | TwistedEmotions | jesus its 10pm and Im still sweating |
| 04:42.52 | omi_ | broken AC? |
| 04:42.55 | ardy | ethics: I have the message is: usb1-6: device not accepting address 9: error -71 |
| 04:43.07 | cafuego | ethics: Can you rate for me on a scale where 1 is under $5 and 5 is over $100 how much you would prefer to get paid for participating in surveys? |
| 04:43.13 | TwistedEmotions | omi_: huge house too cheap |
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| 04:43.55 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: You here? |
| 04:44.03 | deadcat | what up |
| 04:44.05 | furrywolf | cafuego: how much are you paying me to participate in your survey of how much we should be paid for participating in surveys? |
| 04:44.08 | omi_ | TwistedEmotions, setup computers in basement, tends to be 10 deg celsius coller in my house |
| 04:44.10 | deadcat | just sat down (= |
| 04:44.16 | TwistedEmotions | What was that one SSH command you gave me? |
| 04:44.23 | cafuego | furrywolf: Nothing, sicne I didn't ask you. |
| 04:44.28 | TwistedEmotions | I didnt know how to run it |
| 04:44.42 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: which one? while true; do eject && eject -t; done ? |
| 04:44.52 | TwistedEmotions | omi_: I live upstairs... I swear hottest room in house |
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| 04:45.04 | d0s4gw | how do i convert a tarball to a .deb? |
| 04:45.06 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: also printf "\007" WILL make the machine beep |
| 04:45.12 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: nooo.. |
| 04:45.16 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: got the headers |
| 04:45.21 | ethics | cafuego: the more the better is my preference |
| 04:45.24 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: then you told me to do something |
| 04:45.29 | deadcat | d0s4gw: alien. if the tarball is a binary package |
| 04:45.41 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh. the driver. |
| 04:45.41 | ethics | d0s4gw, alien: but a deb would be better |
| 04:45.50 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: yeah SHH=? |
| 04:45.59 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: then CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z3 -d:ext:anoncvs@savannah.nongnu.org:/cvsroot/orinoco co orinoco |
| 04:46.04 | TwistedEmotions | I tried running in console didnt do anythign |
| 04:46.05 | d0s4gw | it's the mplayer source tarball |
| 04:46.09 | TwistedEmotions | Where do I put that? |
| 04:46.19 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: this will download the latest orinoco driver. then you cane compile it. very easy. |
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| 04:46.24 | d0s4gw | unless anyone knows another way to convert wma to mp3 or ogg |
| 04:46.27 | deadcat | !tell d0s4gw about marillat |
| 04:46.39 | omi_ | can vlc play wma? |
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| 04:46.52 | deadcat | omi_: dont know but i know it can play porn |
| 04:46.52 | ethics | ardy: and im asuming because it couldnt pass the id it wouldnt asign a device |
| 04:46.58 | omi_ | lol |
| 04:47.01 | deadcat | (= |
| 04:47.07 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Where do I run that command? |
| 04:47.08 | ethics | ardy: ie no xxxx asigned to sdXX |
| 04:47.17 | omi_ | I've got vlc, but no .wma/v such a useless braindead format |
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| 04:47.32 | omi_ | vlc has nice transcode options |
| 04:47.39 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: prompt |
| 04:47.50 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: cvs command not found |
| 04:47.51 | deadcat | anywhere. it will create a dir orinoco/ |
| 04:47.56 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: install cvs first. |
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| 04:48.14 | ethics | omi_, with w32codecs i think it can......totem,mplayer,xine can |
| 04:48.28 | omi_ | VLC uses it's own codecs |
| 04:48.39 | omi_ | it's special in that way |
| 04:48.52 | fnx | okkk.....according to "info centre" my box is blissfully unaware of my sound card.....fair enough, Windblows used to do that.....it's also completely unaware of anything even remotely resembling hdc |
| 04:49.01 | fnx | which bothers me slightly |
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| 04:49.13 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: should pserver be enabled? |
| 04:49.16 | fnx | as hda is only 4gb |
| 04:49.23 | ethics | omi_ then doubtfull: its sorta nonfreeish i think |
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| 04:49.37 | ethics | fnx what device are you expecting as hdc? |
| 04:49.50 | Emil | what's the apt for sshd? apt-get install sshd doesn't exist |
| 04:50.00 | bob2 | Emil: ssh... |
| 04:50.01 | omi_ | Is there anything like dumppartitiontable tool but for LVM which covers logical groups and volumes |
| 04:50.27 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: installed. |
| 04:50.30 | Emil | bob2: ? |
| 04:50.32 | fnx | just a hard drive...fujitsu, if i recall |
| 04:50.40 | omi_ | I want to replicate my LVM setup on another almost identical box |
| 04:50.47 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: now what? |
| 04:50.56 | fnx | wait, i'm gonna try the old micro$oft cure...... |
| 04:51.07 | fnx | reboots* |
| 04:51.16 | bob2 | Emil: it's in the ssh package |
| 04:51.18 | zinx | fnx: that very rarely works |
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| 04:51.35 | d0s4gw | or maybe you should just spend another $200 on the next mandatory upgrade |
| 04:51.54 | Bac9 | zinx: does work for some bad hdds that need a hard reboot (preferably with 10 sec poweroff) for the bios to see them |
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| 04:52.18 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: make && make install && update-modules |
| 04:52.39 | Bac9 | zinx: although it usually means the drive will die compleatly in about a year |
| 04:53.31 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: *** no specific modules... do you want to just not upgrade man... sorry I know this shit is annoying |
| 04:54.08 | zinx | Bac9: bad hard drive firmware is not exactly a common problem ;) |
| 04:54.10 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: what kernel you using? you have kernel-headers-`uname -r` installed? and build-essential? |
| 04:54.23 | Bac9 | zinx: it happends, I've seen it |
| 04:54.42 | zinx | Bac9: so have i, but it's still rare |
| 04:54.50 | karsten | TwistedEmotions: Que pasta? |
| 04:54.50 | zinx | Bac9: i've had no less than two maxtor drives die that way |
| 04:54.59 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: 2.6.11 - 1-686 |
| 04:55.04 | karsten | zinx: Shotgunned? |
| 04:55.06 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh girl |
| 04:55.09 | TwistedEmotions | karsten: whats up homie? |
| 04:55.12 | zinx | karsten: faulty flash ram, is my guess |
| 04:55.15 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: hwh? |
| 04:55.19 | TwistedEmotions | *heh? |
| 04:55.20 | Bac9 | zinx: with the latest trend in hdd dependability I doubt it'll stay rare for long |
| 04:55.30 | zinx | karsten: or some other faulty component on the board |
| 04:55.34 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. apt-get the headers |
| 04:55.37 | deadcat | kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-686 |
| 04:55.43 | deadcat | oh wait. you have smp |
| 04:55.44 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I did |
| 04:55.53 | TwistedEmotions | no smp |
| 04:56.03 | karsten | zinx: Dig. I avoid Maxtor if possible. |
| 04:56.04 | Solet | i made the new partition for my swap with cfdisk, i need to 'write' to keep the new partition table right? it says that it may destroy data... if i didnt change hda1 (where my data is) it will leave my data alone right? |
| 04:56.05 | TwistedEmotions | it's a P3 |
| 04:56.06 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you really should get the kernel with smp. (= why pay for HT when you dont use it |
| 04:56.06 | ethics | alsa-source is for 1.0.8 atm i think is there any 1.0.9 version packaged anywhere? unstable etc...id rather use m-a than compile |
| 04:56.06 | Bac9 | zinx: maxtor drives are widely known to be the worst out there, and in my experiance they die in aproximatly 6:1 to any other manufactuerer |
| 04:56.12 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh. right (= |
| 04:56.14 | deadcat | hehe. |
| 04:56.16 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: It doesnt have HT.. |
| 04:56.16 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 04:56.24 | deadcat | and the compile failed? |
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| 04:56.26 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: already got headers.. |
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| 04:56.36 | TwistedEmotions | just type "make"? |
| 04:56.39 | zinx | Bac9: there are far worse drives than maxtor, but no one knows their name because they're the off-brands :P |
| 04:56.40 | deadcat | ya |
| 04:56.56 | Bac9 | zinx: any examples? |
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| 04:57.04 | TwistedEmotions | make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. |
| 04:57.12 | zinx | Bac9: no, sorry, my memory's pretty bad |
| 04:57.12 | d0s4gw | ok, i got mplayer installed, but the script i found to convert wma to mp3 isnt working. any suggestions? |
| 04:57.17 | TwistedEmotions | Am I suppose to be in a certain directory? |
| 04:57.21 | deadcat | bloody hell. may i ssh in? i will run it in screen |
| 04:57.24 | deadcat | nah |
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| 04:57.41 | Bac9 | zinx: I hear seagate is starting to be more dependable, although wd is definitly getting less dependable (personal experiance) |
| 04:57.52 | zinx | Bac9: usually you find them in very cheap prebuilt systems |
| 04:57.58 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: open. |
| 04:58.02 | fnx | right......still no sound, and still no sign of my second HD |
| 04:58.03 | deadcat | k |
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| 04:58.29 | fnx | i'm becoming agitated |
| 04:58.35 | Bac9 | zinx: what was that brand that ibm drives were rebranded to after they 60gb feasco? |
| 04:58.45 | zinx | Bac9: hitachi, i think |
| 04:58.51 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i am installing screen |
| 04:58.52 | karsten | Bac9: Hitachi. |
| 04:58.58 | Bac9 | zinx: it was b..something or toher |
| 04:59.03 | zinx | Bac9: the dept. got sold basically |
| 04:59.07 | zinx | Bac9: oh, i don't know |
| 04:59.16 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Whoops. Forgot to install |
| 04:59.23 | Azar | fnx |
| 04:59.23 | Azar | :) |
| 04:59.23 | Solet | deadcat: i made a new partition for my swap with cfdisk, i need to 'write' to keep the new partition table right? it says that it may destroy data... if i didnt change hda1 (where my data is) it will leave my data alone right? |
| 04:59.32 | Azar | what did you got besides Sarge installed |
| 04:59.38 | d0s4gw | hmm, maybe it did work |
| 04:59.40 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: What? screen is already installed |
| 04:59.42 | deadcat | Solet: yes sir. |
| 04:59.42 | d0s4gw | sweet |
| 04:59.46 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i did |
| 04:59.46 | ethics | fnx what soundcard? |
| 04:59.56 | Bac9 | karsten: are you sure it is hitachi? I though they sold to some unknown company |
| 05:00.01 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Errr... apt is using apt so watch out. |
| 05:00.08 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: its working for me |
| 05:00.11 | fnx | onboard VIA ac97 |
| 05:00.13 | d0s4gw | crap, no it just renamed it |
| 05:00.19 | ethics | fnx and run alsaconf as root and see if it finds anything first |
| 05:00.20 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: **sid |
| 05:00.20 | karsten | Bac9: Hitachi or F-something. |
| 05:00.20 | Solet | deadcat: thank you, if it messes up hda1 i'm going to have to go cry for a few hours |
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| 05:00.27 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: apt is using sid I mean |
| 05:00.29 | Azar | fnx that is what I have too :) hard to get alsa working yet |
| 05:00.37 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: but you are sid right? |
| 05:00.41 | Bac9 | zinx: yeah I heard, I wonder if they are still any good? at one point in time ibm drives were considered to be the best (before the 60gb feasco) |
| 05:00.47 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: no.. kernel only. |
| 05:00.55 | Bac9 | karsten: I thought it was B-something |
| 05:01.01 | zinx | Bac9: dunno, i haven't bought any recently |
| 05:01.07 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: should I just upgrade and do whole thing as sid? |
| 05:01.08 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you should wget the kernel then dpkg that way. if you use testing and sid in sources. you gonna fuck it up. |
| 05:01.15 | karsten | Bac9: Hitachi: http://www.steves-digicams.com/microdrive.html |
| 05:01.22 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i would just upgrade. i dont have problem running sid. |
| 05:01.23 | fnx | info centre just says "no information available on sound card" |
| 05:01.38 | ethics | d0s4gw, you do know that wmv is licensable yah? DRM etc? |
| 05:01.39 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: kk. I will run apt-get upgrade after your done. |
| 05:01.40 | furrywolf | info centre? |
| 05:01.45 | Azar | fnx did you got alsa_base installed? |
| 05:01.49 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: dist-upgrade |
| 05:01.58 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: yeah thats what I meant ;) |
| 05:02.04 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: and try to remove orinoco driver and reload it. then you should be able to kismet the mofo |
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| 05:02.24 | Bac9 | karsten: oh ok, thanx, haven't seen any hitachi branded drives though |
| 05:02.28 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: apt-get remove orinoco? |
| 05:02.29 | ethics | fnx run alsaconf...did it find anything...Azars works just need the config |
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| 05:02.50 | hacim | Bubob! |
| 05:03.10 | cafuego | Bac9: I have a couple of IBM TravelStar drives (in usb2 enclosures) and they're all fine. |
| 05:03.12 | Azar | ethics I am really trying to lift my spirits up and deal with alsa again.... getting a little shy but I will do it |
| 05:03.13 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no. modprobe -r orinoco, ifconfig eth1 down first. |
| 05:03.13 | fnx | das-uberbox:/home/fnx# alsaconf |
| 05:03.13 | fnx | bash: alsaconf: command not found |
| 05:03.20 | hacim | tarzeau: ! |
| 05:03.30 | cafuego | Bac9: If I were shopping with my own money, I'd go western digital, though. |
| 05:03.37 | Bac9 | cafuego: ibm drives were considered to be the best (with the exception of the 60gb ones) |
| 05:03.59 | cafuego | Bac9: yeah, well. My 80G Deathstar is making odd noises too ;-) |
| 05:04.00 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: hold up.. gonna reboot... my Backspace button isnt working all of a suddent |
| 05:04.03 | Azar | fnx in /etc/modules do you see any ac82cxxx_audio ? |
| 05:04.10 | ethics | Azar hehe...you got sound the otherday yah you just couldnt blacklist the oss stuff yah? |
| 05:04.12 | hacim | dpkg, bubob |
| 05:04.17 | Bac9 | cafuego: I wouldn't go wd, I had two (almost new) die on me in a very short time span on systems that weren't even treally loaded |
| 05:04.19 | ethics | fnx as root? |
| 05:04.21 | Azar | errr fnx sorry via82cxxx_audio |
| 05:04.22 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh girl |
| 05:04.40 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Heh? |
| 05:04.55 | Azar | ethics, I am a little nervous I need to get in a great mood to start with, but I will |
| 05:04.58 | cafuego | Bac9: I have 4 WD *)G's now, PATA and SATA. They're by far the quietest and faster drives I have. (They're between 3 and 1 years old) |
| 05:05.24 | ethics | Azar: but you did get sounds the other day correct? |
| 05:05.38 | Azar | just sitting here and looking at you, cafuego, deadcat to get me in the moods |
| 05:05.41 | Bac9 | cafuego: I believe the drives that died were both 80 gig, so watch out |
| 05:05.42 | hacim | bub-n-bros? |
| 05:05.44 | cafuego | Bac9: I've also got a set of seagates, they're louder and a bit slower then the WDs, but never any issues with them. |
| 05:05.59 | Azar | ethics, the other day I nicely fixed the nvidia |
| 05:06.05 | Bac9 | cafuego: yeah I heard seagate was getting better |
| 05:06.20 | ethics | Azar ahh kk |
| 05:06.28 | Azar | ethics, I left the audio last, still looking here and through some manuals |
| 05:06.38 | Bac9 | cafuego: personally I have a futjitsu, runs real hot but seems pretty stable |
| 05:07.06 | cafuego | Bac9: I have a few laptops with Fujitsus... they seems reliable, but they're *so* slow. |
| 05:07.07 | MaTTFuRY | I'm having a problem with my video card errr gnome i think it just "BEEP BEEP BEEP" with a terminal just blank "_" blinking anyone else have this problem or otherwise ? |
| 05:07.16 | keenan | any idea why firefox hangs for me but not for any other user? |
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| 05:07.21 | keenan | i tried rm -rf .mozilla |
| 05:07.37 | Bac9 | cafuego: if you want fast get sata2 10000rpm drives |
| 05:07.37 | keenan | anything else to try? |
| 05:07.46 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ifconfig eth2 down doesnt do shit... and modprobe -r orinoco FATAL" Module in use.. |
| 05:07.57 | cafuego | Bac9: That 10krpm 320GB scsi raid array is quick enough, thankyou. |
| 05:08.05 | MaTTFuRY | or is this normal and how can i test my video card? |
| 05:08.10 | ethics | Bac9 it's not the same without quantum and seagate battling it out in the performance tests......maxtor dont make quantum drives anymore they just make maxtors on the quantum machines....some of the tech stuff was lost in the takeother i beleive |
| 05:08.21 | Bac9 | cafuego: stripped I am guessing :-) |
| 05:08.43 | cafuego | Bac9: Eww, no. |
| 05:08.55 | Bac9 | ethics: yeah I heard quantum got as bad as maxtor soon after the takeover... |
| 05:08.55 | cafuego | Bac9: Striping is a pointless waste |
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| 05:09.08 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: eth1 right? |
| 05:09.16 | Bac9 | cafuego: stripping does get you some speed advantage |
| 05:09.28 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: eth2 but I cnahged to eth2 and didnt do shit |
| 05:09.30 | PerKlunk | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/LAWsaF42.html |
| 05:09.35 | PerKlunk | Does that command look right? |
| 05:09.40 | PerKlunk | Does it match my kernel version. |
| 05:09.43 | cafuego | Bac9: yes, but that advantage is completely negated by the time you'll end up spending copying 200Gb of data off last week's tape. |
| 05:09.49 | PerKlunk | The --append-to-version option |
| 05:09.53 | PerKlunk | and the --revision option |
| 05:10.03 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you sure? (= |
| 05:10.22 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: that the command didnt do shit or that eth2? |
| 05:10.28 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: both I am sure about.. |
| 05:10.32 | ethics | cafuego: because you probably will know this....alsa 1.0.9 any packages i can find for that or do i have to tarball?...i was hoping alsa-source package would update and be rolled in for sarge release but im guessing not now |
| 05:10.34 | PerKlunk | cafuego: That lookr ight? |
| 05:10.35 | Solet-deb | how do i put the fat32 fs on /dev/hda7 ? man mkfs.vfat confuses me to no end... |
| 05:10.40 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: there we go |
| 05:10.43 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: went down |
| 05:10.45 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: did you block the port again? |
| 05:10.47 | Bac9 | cafuego: with sata on the rise tapes are not really worth the money anymore, you can get a real good stata raid for the same price as a decent tape system |
| 05:11.04 | chealer | keenan: does it work for a user that never used firefox? |
| 05:11.15 | Azar | ethics, on apt-cache kernel-image I find alsa and alsa_base packages ready to be picked |
| 05:11.21 | ethics | solet-deb: run parted its easier |
| 05:11.24 | cafuego | Bac9: There's a 1TB scsi system free for the taking here actually. |
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| 05:11.36 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: no its down... but modprobe is still giving fatal error... should I just reboot and turn off switch on front? |
| 05:11.37 | cafuego | Bac9: 8x 32x 4.5GB (fridge sized) |
| 05:11.39 | Solet-deb | bac9 but with tapes you can physically remove the back up so there is no chance of data loss if your box is rooted |
| 05:11.52 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: the switch (= |
| 05:12.01 | deadcat | sync it 3 times first |
| 05:12.08 | Bac9 | cafuego: hot swapable? |
| 05:12.12 | Azar | ethics the curious part is that the "alpha" alsa-source 1.09 is NOT seeing my sound card with alsaconf but the 1.04 DOES |
| 05:12.18 | Solet-deb | cafuego: where is 'here' and how much shipping money do you need to get it to topeka kansas |
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| 05:12.28 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: sync = ifconfig eth2 down? |
| 05:12.32 | cafuego | Bac9: Probably. East approx $8 worth of power per day on idle (ex cooling) |
| 05:12.38 | ethics | Azar: sorry i dont follow you? |
| 05:12.39 | Bac9 | Solet-deb: that's why I said sata, sata is hotswapable, and there apre pleanty of multi-drive bays |
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| 05:12.47 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: sudo sync && sudo sync ... sync the hd. so if it hangs you dont suffer much |
| 05:12.48 | cafuego | Solet-deb: near melbourne Airport |
| 05:12.54 | Azar | ...therefore here I am frozen with fear I might get a "alpha" new alsa version that is not working as it should |
| 05:12.57 | Bac9 | cafuego: :-( |
| 05:13.01 | Solet-deb | Bac9: but you still gotta unplug crap and the like... |
| 05:13.08 | ethics | Azari want 1.0.9 to fix my ich6 crappy sound module atm |
| 05:13.17 | Bac9 | cafuego: should put it in the heater room, get some use out of it on idle |
| 05:13.21 | Solet-deb | cafuego: you suck... .thats expensive as fuckerall to get it here |
| 05:13.33 | cafuego | Solet-deb: Yah |
| 05:13.38 | Bac9 | Solet-deb: nope, just umount, turn a key and slide the drive out the front |
| 05:13.51 | Azar | ethics, when I first installed alsa it was 1.04 and "it worked", it have recoginzed my sound card, but when I did the alsa-driver 1.09 it stopped working (seeing my card) at alsaconf |
| 05:13.55 | cafuego | Solet-deb: You're better off spending 1% of the freight fee on 4 250GB drives. |
| 05:14.04 | Solet-deb | bac9: *drool* i like it :P |
| 05:14.09 | TwistedEmotions | FUCKIGN FUCK.. Module is in use |
| 05:14.20 | fnx | discover finds "VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller" |
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| 05:14.27 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: le me get in. |
| 05:14.40 | Azar | ethics, maybe I am wrong but the newest alsa might be just as is for now: "alpha" |
| 05:14.45 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: gonna reboot gimme a few.. let me see if I can get this slut working |
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| 05:14.49 | PerKlunk | deadcat: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/LAWsaF42.html |
| 05:14.52 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: haha. |
| 05:15.03 | PerKlunk | Does that look right, do my --append-to-version and --revision options match my kernel version? |
| 05:15.05 | fnx | but alsaconf finds nothing when it modprobes snd |
| 05:15.07 | Solet-deb | cafuego: is it seriously free cause i might have an ausi friend that would be interested |
| 05:15.10 | Bac9 | Solet-deb: yes, I especially like the 4 sata bays in 3 5 1/4 bays idea, slide them in, mount, backup, umount, slide out and store wherever you want... nothing like sata to pave the way for cheap backups |
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| 05:15.24 | deadcat | PerKlunk: what you trying to do? |
| 05:15.34 | ethics | Azar: alsa-source = 1.0.8........tarballs from alsa site are the only 1.0.9s around it seems...even ubuntu and such dont have a packaged experiment |
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| 05:15.42 | PerKlunk | deadcat: compile a fglrx module so I can play True Combat ELITE |
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| 05:16.00 | ethics | Azar: 1.0.4 should be no probs for you if the oss stuff is turned off... |
| 05:16.01 | deadcat | PerKlunk: dont compile another kernel with the same name as your current kernel. |
| 05:16.02 | Solet-deb | ethics: does parted have a gui? |
| 05:16.24 | deadcat | PerKlunk: try --append-to-version ++hostname+date+version |
| 05:16.32 | Guerin | !kp mantra |
| 05:16.32 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image; |
| 05:16.33 | Azar | ethics, yes you are right, I wish I would be able to install 1.04 only I do not know what aptitude will bring me though |
| 05:16.34 | Bac9 | Solet-deb: there's qtparted I believe |
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| 05:16.55 | Azar | hi mr Guerin :) |
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| 05:17.00 | Nurbs | ethics, Azar: 1.0.8+1.0.9rc3-1 is in debian/experimental. (didn't read your whole conversation though) |
| 05:17.03 | Solet-deb | Bac9: apt-cache search qtparted didnt return anything |
| 05:17.05 | deadcat | i dont even bother with --revision, just use --append-to-version for everything. |
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| 05:17.16 | Guerin | Azar: just shooting out again :) |
| 05:17.29 | Solet-deb | so parted has no gui? |
| 05:17.30 | Bac9 | Solet-deb: maybe qparted, but it's definitly there, saw it |
| 05:17.34 | ethics | Solet, : theres a qtparted but its not sarge packaged....you wont need it tho.....parted /dev/hda enter...help ....just find the command you need and it steps you through it |
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| 05:17.43 | Azar | Nurbs, right, I do not wish to experiment 1.08 or 1.09 how do I do to make sure apt gives me 1.04? |
| 05:17.44 | PerKlunk | deadcat: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 05:17.48 | PerKlunk | That's not how the guide says to do it. |
| 05:17.49 | diz | does anyone here maintain the master debian repository? |
| 05:17.50 | PerKlunk | from dpkg |
| 05:17.59 | ethics | Nurbs: are you by chance using it? |
| 05:18.05 | Nurbs | ethics: yes |
| 05:18.30 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: rebooted.. still cant get it to remove... give it a try... maybe I'm just a jackass.. |
| 05:18.39 | ethics | Nurbs: is the snd-hda-intel in that package? |
| 05:19.03 | deadcat | PerKlunk: you can just apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` module-assistant and those driver-source, then m-a a-i fglrx-kernel |
| 05:19.06 | diz | mirrors@debian.org is non-responsive. |
| 05:19.07 | Bac9 | ethics: qtparted was packaged for sarge at one time (I have it instaled) |
| 05:19.10 | Nurbs | Azar: apt? if you want apt to give you 1.04 use http://snapshot.debian.net/ and hold the packages or use pinning |
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| 05:19.20 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: maybe both ethernets wireless and lan both use that driver? |
| 05:19.23 | Nurbs | Azar: otherwise just get the old ones, install them through dpkg and put them on hold |
| 05:19.28 | Azar | thanks Nurbs |
| 05:19.40 | Nurbs | !tell Azar about hold |
| 05:19.41 | Nurbs | :) |
| 05:19.51 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh. its orinoco_cs. so i guess you have a pcmcia card. what teh f |
| 05:19.59 | ethics | Bac9: i tried it the other week but had a libs dependancy higher than sarge had.... |
| 05:20.00 | Solet-deb | ethics. do in parted its "mkfs /dev/hda7 fat32'? |
| 05:20.16 | keenan | firefox works perfectly for a new user i just created but it reproducibly gets stuck for me |
| 05:20.17 | PerKlunk | deadcat: I can't do anything that the guide doesn't say to do |
| 05:20.17 | ethics | Bac9: not a major issue parted a pretty simple thing to use 8) |
| 05:20.23 | PerKlunk | I'll just get lost and it won't work. |
| 05:20.36 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: those are the removeable ones right? |
| 05:20.37 | Bac9 | ethics: guess I have an older version installed before they pulled it from sarge, but no matter sarge will release soon and testing will update |
| 05:20.37 | hacim | bub-n-bob!! |
| 05:20.40 | ethics | Solet: just type mkfs itll ask you each bit you need |
| 05:20.51 | deadcat | PerKlunk: fuck the guide |
| 05:21.03 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I dont think my shit is removeable.. |
| 05:21.05 | ethics | Bac9 yup |
| 05:21.10 | PerKlunk | deadcat: I'm not you...I need the guide. |
| 05:21.16 | PerKlunk | I dunno what is going on unless I have a guide. |
| 05:21.21 | hacim | dpkg, bub-n-bob |
| 05:21.27 | Solet-deb | "File system? [ext2]?" what do i type here? |
| 05:21.42 | ethics | the guide has "Don't Panic" on the cover? |
| 05:21.49 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i am pretty sure. but i cant because i have to down the card first. and if i do i get d/c so eitehr you setup the wired connection or something. since we gonna use wireless to test kismet. i recommend setup wired for now |
| 05:22.06 | Bac9 | Solet-deb: vfat |
| 05:22.19 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: eth0 is your wired. eth1 is your firewire, eth2 is wireless. |
| 05:22.27 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: gimme a few... let me see if I can get wired working |
| 05:22.30 | TwistedEmotions | wtf? |
| 05:22.31 | Solet-deb | bac9 i typed that and it just went to the same prompt again |
| 05:22.46 | TwistedEmotions | firewire uses a eth interface |
| 05:22.48 | TwistedEmotions | ? |
| 05:22.49 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ifocnfig eth2 down, then jack the wire in. then dhclient eth0 |
| 05:23.03 | Bac9 | Solet-deb: then ask deadcat, I never formated fat32 from linux |
| 05:23.04 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: it can. i have that for ibook too. but i dont have firewire cable (= |
| 05:23.11 | ethics | Solet pres taba few times itll list |
| 05:23.14 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: firewire crossover. i bet its fast. |
| 05:23.27 | deadcat | Solet-deb: me either. i dont even have fat. or taht fatass |
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| 05:23.40 | ethics | Solet-deb, prolly fat32 |
| 05:23.54 | deadcat | Solet-deb: isnt it mkfs.vfat ? |
| 05:23.58 | Solet-deb | ethics, yeah it was |
| 05:24.17 | cat | hey i have a question how can i copy my drivers for my current kernel to my new kernel? is on my home |
| 05:24.27 | bob2 | cat: you don't, in general |
| 05:24.30 | Solet-deb | i typed it and it went back to just (parted) does that mean i'm done and it put the fs on correctly? |
| 05:24.34 | cat | cp config-2.6.8-2-k7-smp |
| 05:24.52 | ethics | Solet-deb: so you know parted can make fat32 as big as you want......do it from windows you get 32gb max when creating...no reason other than microsoft pushing ntfs |
| 05:24.53 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: do you hear a beep? |
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| 05:25.20 | bcole | how can i stop my screen from blanking after inactivity? |
| 05:25.22 | cat | bob2: how about the modules that i have on my old kernel |
| 05:25.28 | ethics | solet-deb yup |
| 05:25.31 | bob2 | cat: which modules? |
| 05:25.34 | deadcat | bcole: xset s 0 |
| 05:25.36 | cat | how can i put them to my new kernel i download it the source from it |
| 05:25.38 | bob2 | bcole: xscreensaver-config |
| 05:25.40 | cat | bob2: my kernels setting |
| 05:25.47 | bcole | not in x |
| 05:25.49 | bob2 | cat: so, you mean the configuration, not the modules |
| 05:25.50 | bcole | console |
| 05:25.51 | bob2 | bcole: then setterm |
| 05:25.56 | bcole | thanks |
| 05:26.01 | deadcat | bcole: i have xset s 0; xset s off in my .xsession |
| 05:26.08 | bob2 | cat: copy it to .config in the kernel source tree |
| 05:26.15 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: remove... if it goes bad then I will plug the lan cord in |
| 05:26.15 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: just cause I dont have any spare lan cords |
| 05:26.16 | deadcat | ah. console. my fault. |
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| 05:26.26 | cat | but which config-2.6.8-1-386 to .config ? |
| 05:26.29 | Solet-deb | cafuego: are you still around? |
| 05:26.31 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: damn. i bring you one next time. |
| 05:26.41 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: sorry I disconnected |
| 05:26.46 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: bring me what? |
| 05:26.48 | bob2 | cat: there's more than one? |
| 05:26.52 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: cat5 |
| 05:26.58 | cat | yes |
| 05:27.03 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I dont like cats.. Im a dog person |
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| 05:27.14 | cat | initrd.img-2.6.8-1-386 |
| 05:27.15 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: (=. you d/c what? i am still connected. |
| 05:27.31 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: huh? |
| 05:27.40 | deadcat | nevermind |
| 05:27.41 | TwistedEmotions | I didnt dc anything |
| 05:27.53 | TwistedEmotions | I thought you were going to disconnect |
| 05:27.54 | ethics | ok home time for me: cyas in a bit |
| 05:27.56 | bob2 | cat: there's only one config, tho? |
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| 05:28.07 | cat | yes |
| 05:28.09 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you do it. |
| 05:28.19 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: do what? |
| 05:28.29 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: who's on first? |
| 05:28.32 | bob2 | cat: than that's what you need |
| 05:28.37 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ifconfig eth2 down. let me do that then |
| 05:28.43 | qwertz_ | Is there a way to get the Changes file for a debian package before installing/upgrading that package? |
| 05:28.52 | cat | ok done, and now what do i do i did make config on the kernel that i download it |
| 05:28.54 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no jack the cable in. dhclient eth0 |
| 05:28.58 | caphuso | qwertz_: apt-cache show apt-listchanges |
| 05:28.58 | deadcat | eth2 is down |
| 05:29.11 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: no it isnt. |
| 05:29.34 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: yes. it is. i downed it already. |
| 05:29.42 | TwistedEmotions | oh irght |
| 05:29.44 | munga | I'm running my system on a raid0 array and today I've lost one sector in one partition in one of the two disks. Can I mark this sector as damaged and put the faulty disk back online in the array ? |
| 05:29.44 | TwistedEmotions | kk |
| 05:29.44 | deadcat | and i cant ssh in anymore |
| 05:29.48 | TwistedEmotions | what do I do now? |
| 05:29.49 | bob2 | cat: then delete the .config. and copy it from /boot/ again |
| 05:30.00 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: dhclient eth0 |
| 05:30.07 | TwistedEmotions | What about modprobe? |
| 05:30.13 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: fuck it |
| 05:30.14 | cat | so do i quit the make config ? |
| 05:30.21 | TwistedEmotions | kk |
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| 05:30.37 | bob2 | cat: yes |
| 05:30.42 | bob2 | cat: then delete .config and copy from /boot |
| 05:31.39 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: up. |
| 05:31.56 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. now point the router to the new ip |
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| 05:32.02 | cat | ok done bob2 |
| 05:32.08 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: done |
| 05:32.27 | cat | is there any way i can changed my kernel's name? |
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| 05:32.30 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you watching? i am in screen |
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| 05:32.52 | TwistedEmotions | there is no screen to be resumed |
| 05:32.56 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ^^^ |
| 05:32.59 | TwistedEmotions | screen -r\ |
| 05:33.03 | deadcat | screen -x |
| 05:33.03 | TwistedEmotions | screen -r |
| 05:33.05 | TwistedEmotions | oh |
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| 05:33.18 | cat | any ideas bob2 ? to changed my kernels name |
| 05:33.19 | bob2 | cat: to what? |
| 05:33.25 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: still no screen |
| 05:33.29 | hendry | How do I specify I want to, apt-get install mutt, from unstable? (on a sarge system) |
| 05:33.29 | cat | to changed the uname -r name |
| 05:33.41 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you sure? |
| 05:33.46 | TwistedEmotions | yeah |
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| 05:33.51 | bob2 | cat: to say what? |
| 05:33.51 | simonrvn | plonk. does he have permission to attach to you're screen? |
| 05:33.56 | TwistedEmotions | -x and -r say no screen |
| 05:33.59 | simonrvn | err your(* |
| 05:34.01 | cat | antare |
| 05:34.03 | simonrvn | ... |
| 05:34.07 | simonrvn | @lart me |
| 05:34.10 | bob2 | cat: it gets the hostname at boottime |
| 05:34.18 | simonrvn | aaaah |
| 05:34.25 | PerKlunk | Sorry, the file you have pasted is too large. |
| 05:34.26 | PerKlunk | To prevent the disk filling up, pasted files may not exceed 10,000 lines or 800 KB. |
| 05:34.28 | cat | not the hostname the uname -r i want to changed it to antares |
| 05:34.28 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: kismet is working. |
| 05:34.32 | PerKlunk | Anyone have any paste sites where I can paste a lot? |
| 05:34.36 | simonrvn | . |
| 05:34.37 | PerKlunk | Like 80,000 lines |
| 05:34.42 | cat | 2.6.8-2-k7-smp that |
| 05:34.48 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: set ip on router to normal again? |
| 05:34.58 | bob2 | cat: edit Makefile |
| 05:34.59 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: not yet. |
| 05:35.00 | bob2 | but that is silly |
| 05:35.07 | simonrvn | probably too big... like it says... |
| 05:35.13 | simonrvn | meaning the app can't take any more than that. |
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| 05:35.45 | qwertz_ | caphuso, thanks will take a look |
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| 05:35.57 | Solet-deb | bac9: that 1tb scsi server cafuego was talking about earlier, do you know if it used 3phase power, 240v or 110v? |
| 05:36.00 | simonrvn | PerKlunk: how abouting hosting it somewhere =) like 127.0.0. but something we can reach, if it's that big. |
| 05:36.09 | simonrvn | plonk |
| 05:36.10 | Solet-deb | i cant remember if he said or not and its already off buffer |
| 05:36.30 | cat | bob2: so i changed the name of it Wizion something that was on the Kernel |
| 05:36.32 | PerKlunk | actually it's under 20,000 lines |
| 05:36.42 | PerKlunk | maybe pastebin.ca will allow it. |
| 05:36.51 | cat | the NAME= |
| 05:36.53 | simonrvn | try |
| 05:37.00 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ok you can ifconfig eth0 down, then get your wireless up again. |
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| 05:38.05 | erps | Curious, but how do some systems set up POP before SMTP authentication if SMTP needs to allow any server to connect.. |
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| 05:38.31 | TheMoebius | is there a GUI app for apt that I can use remotely over SSH? |
| 05:38.42 | Solet-deb | what file(s) do i need to change to make my machine mount/swapon new partitions when it boots? |
| 05:39.01 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: synaptic |
| 05:39.12 | deadcat | TheMoebius: ^^ |
| 05:39.14 | erps | oh. . only works for outgoing mailesrvers, not incoming, I get it :p |
| 05:39.31 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you want me to install that? |
| 05:39.36 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hell no |
| 05:39.37 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:39.40 | bob2 | erps: pop before smtp is kinda crap |
| 05:39.47 | bob2 | erps: use smtp auth whenevrr possible |
| 05:40.01 | TheMoebius | deadcat, so I can use syntaptic on my local machine to admin a remote machine? |
| 05:40.11 | jm_ | themolester: of course not |
| 05:40.12 | erps | bob2, yah - was just wondering how it worked in those situations |
| 05:40.15 | jm_ | TheMoebius ^^^^ |
| 05:40.18 | deadcat | TheMoebius: oh. no. whats wrong with apt-get ? |
| 05:40.29 | hendry | TheMoebius: no |
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| 05:40.48 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: so then why did you say TwistedEmotions: synaptic? |
| 05:41.02 | cat | bob2: i only changed the NAME= from makefile? |
| 05:41.04 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: that was for the other dude. starts with a T. |
| 05:41.08 | cat | or something else? with different commands |
| 05:41.08 | TheMoebius | I can use commandline stuff, but it's annoying. I want to easily see the packages that need upgrading and hand pick them. |
| 05:41.13 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Ohhh kk.. |
| 05:41.22 | bob2 | TheMoebius: aptitude is excellent for that |
| 05:41.24 | deadcat | TheMoebius: you on your own |
| 05:41.42 | valdyn | !ssh x |
| 05:41.54 | valdyn | !sshx |
| 05:41.55 | dpkg | it has been said that sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
| 05:41.56 | Solet-deb | deadcat: what file(s) do i need to change to make my machine mount/swapon new partitions when it boots? |
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| 05:42.28 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: kismet automatically finds all access points around you and cracks them or doesnt crack them? |
| 05:42.39 | bob2 | dude |
| 05:42.41 | bob2 | a) idiot |
| 05:42.41 | deadcat | sine its recommended that we use aptitude to dist-upgrade to the new release, or to sid, can i remove aptitude after i am done upgrading? or its gonna screw up some stuff? |
| 05:42.43 | bob2 | b) no |
| 05:42.52 | deadcat | Solet-deb: /etc/fstab |
| 05:42.52 | bob2 | deadcat: that's fine |
| 05:43.01 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no |
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| 05:43.20 | deadcat | bob2: k. i tried aptitude a while back and dont really like it. |
| 05:43.26 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: thats what aircrack is for.. I read the whole fucking man today I was sooo bored at work. |
| 05:43.29 | Solet-deb | deadcat: and do i need to mount a partition before i swapon it? |
| 05:43.35 | menjelang_subuh | is debian support serial isdn modem?... and how to find the howto for reading? plz help me |
| 05:43.52 | erps | bob2, now I just have to figure out what else is wrong here... Wonder if I set my tarpitting up incorrectly. Sending mail appears to work, but there's a huge "pause" sometimes.. which doesn't make sense. |
| 05:44.04 | deadcat | Solet-deb: no. if you follow the man page. you can just put a line in /etc/fstab and it will swapon by the system. |
| 05:44.20 | jm_ | deadcat: you can use it just like apt-get on command line |
| 05:44.20 | bob2 | erps: read your logs |
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| 05:44.38 | bob2 | erps: if you're running any service at all, and see problems, first instint should be to read the logs |
| 05:44.51 | g_eppel | I'm wanting to create RAID-0 (Software) array with two identicial hard drives, which fs would you recommend I use? |
| 05:44.55 | bob2 | the other side could be tarpitting you |
| 05:44.57 | bob2 | or greylisting you |
| 05:44.58 | deadcat | jm_: ya. last time karsten was using aptitude to install a package and it wanted to remove almost a bunch of packages. then he had to reinstall them back using aptitude. |
| 05:45.00 | bob2 | or doing callbacks |
| 05:45.01 | bob2 | or ... |
| 05:45.02 | omi_ | Why does sarge install not come with SMP enabled kernel? |
| 05:45.09 | deadcat | jm_: i thought that was stupid of aptitude. |
| 05:45.09 | bob2 | smtp isn't as instant as it used to be |
| 05:45.17 | bob2 | omi_: because on i386 it's slower than a UP one |
| 05:45.17 | skaught | deadcat: I think that would be a result of mixing apt-get and aptitude |
| 05:45.24 | menjelang_subuh | is debian support serial isdn modem?... and how to find the howto for reading? plz help me |
| 05:45.27 | bob2 | omi_: and on other architectures it won't even boot |
| 05:45.28 | deadcat | skaught: ya. |
| 05:45.28 | jm_ | deadcat: that's easy to get arround, it has markauto and unmarkauto |
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| 05:45.33 | bob2 | menjelang_subuh: yes, and google said nothing? |
| 05:45.40 | omi_ | I've read somewhere that overhead of smp enabled is almost nothing |
| 05:45.58 | erps | bob2, :p Already looked and didn't see anything out of line. But I am using clamav, which might explain the long "pause". It seems that it doesn't really respond to what I send until the complete message is formatted and sent. |
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| 05:46.09 | deadcat | jm_: ya. karsten said aptitude is good for keeping track of something... |
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| 05:46.17 | omi_ | but why not give you a choice INSTALL 1. Single 2. SMP ? |
| 05:46.18 | skaught | deadcat: I've been using apt-tools for so long it's just a habit :) I've found them to work quite well, but perhaps for new installations it's wise to use aptitude |
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| 05:46.29 | bob2 | omi_: because it's a stupid extra question |
| 05:46.35 | omi_ | how's it stupid? |
| 05:46.38 | bob2 | omi_: you can install an SMP kernel in < 2 minutes after install |
| 05:46.40 | jm_ | deadcat: yes, it keeps track of what packages get installed when installing some random package, so that it can remove them when you remove this random packages - really nice for testing things |
| 05:46.44 | bob2 | omi_: because the majority of people don't have SMP machines |
| 05:46.55 | deadcat | skaught: ya. (=.. but i still refuse to. hehe. |
| 05:46.59 | bob2 | omi_: and the people that do are presumably capable of installing one extra package |
| 05:47.07 | omi_ | haha |
| 05:47.10 | omi_ | you'll be surprised |
| 05:47.19 | bob2 | I bet I won't |
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| 05:47.22 | Solet-deb | deadcat: the line i want to put in /etc/fstab is just "swapon /dev/hda5" right? |
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| 05:47.24 | yarddog | what is aptitude? |
| 05:47.25 | deadcat | jm_: ya. like dependencies right? i prefer apt-get with debfoster for that job |
| 05:47.26 | bob2 | it could be autodetected |
| 05:47.27 | omi_ | lol |
| 05:47.35 | deadcat | Solet-deb: no. |
| 05:47.38 | jm_ | people who can't grasp that don't deserve such systems - but I guess we will soon see a lot of them due to dual-core chips |
| 05:47.42 | jm_ | deadcat: yes |
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| 05:47.58 | Solet-deb | ack... but thats what i got from man swapon... |
| 05:48.04 | deadcat | Solet-deb: /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 05:48.12 | bob2 | it's cool how HT chips claim to be UP |
| 05:48.13 | TheMoebius | is there a good GUI CVS app like tortoise on windows? |
| 05:48.14 | omi_ | what pissed me off is that installing packages is taking up all CPU and I have 3 cpus just standing there, while the system is installing I could migrate some settings to it for non-debed programs |
| 05:48.16 | seven_six_two | but being rich doesn't make you computer savy |
| 05:48.22 | omi_ | but it is very unresponsive |
| 05:48.22 | deadcat | Solet-deb: i doubt you man mount or man fstab |
| 05:48.28 | deadcat | Solet-deb: lazy bum |
| 05:48.29 | bob2 | omi_: I really really doubt it would help much |
| 05:48.36 | bob2 | omi_: packages are install serially |
| 05:48.48 | omi_ | but other things that I have to install are non-debed |
| 05:48.55 | Solet-deb | oops i man'ed swapon |
| 05:48.55 | kevinz | old question, i aksed dpkg about install java but can not find those packages he mentioned, what can i do? |
| 05:48.56 | omi_ | so it's just a matter of extacting |
| 05:49.09 | simonrvn | which ht? ihel's? or whomever did the x86 |
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| 05:49.20 | valdyn | omi_: why didnt you already install an smp kernel? |
| 05:49.22 | bob2 | omi_: if you have four cpus, you presumably have fast disks, so it will take < 30 minutes to install debian base |
| 05:49.32 | bob2 | then install smp kernel, reboot and install whatever else |
| 05:49.33 | tweak | how do I use grep to seach in the folder I am for the word "12 years" in all the text files in the folder. |
| 05:49.33 | omi_ | because I told it to go to unstable right away |
| 05:49.34 | tweak | ? |
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| 05:49.46 | omi_ | and it wanted to reinstall all systems |
| 05:49.47 | TheMoebius | seven_six_two, you might be able to use distcc (I think thats what its called). Gentoo can use it to distribute compiling across any number of networked computers. |
| 05:49.50 | tweak | grep -R "12 years" ? |
| 05:49.52 | bob2 | tweak: grep "12 years" *.txt |
| 05:49.55 | deadcat | tweak: directory.... not folder |
| 05:50.01 | bob2 | tweak: the help text for grep really isn't *that* confusing... |
| 05:50.02 | omi_ | bob2, nope proliant 5000 my play box |
| 05:50.05 | tweak | sorry directory I always get yelled at for that. Again sorry |
| 05:50.08 | tweak | thanks bob2 |
| 05:50.11 | omi_ | but it is very responsive with smp kernel :) |
| 05:50.16 | omi_ | even under load |
| 05:50.17 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: If I use nfork do I have to use 2 pcap files? |
| 05:50.21 | seven_six_two | TheMoebius: me? i think you're mistaken |
| 05:50.22 | deadcat | bob2: hes too lazy. |
| 05:50.34 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: whats nfork? |
| 05:50.36 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: Weee testing on neighbors net connection |
| 05:50.43 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: aircrackm |
| 05:50.47 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: hahah. |
| 05:50.47 | TwistedLappy | *aircrack |
| 05:50.48 | g_eppel | If I'm running a RAID-0 array with two HD's which will be used for temporary storage (downloads, dvd rips, source-code) is there a good reason to keep the 5% on each disk reservered for root? |
| 05:51.16 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: you have to use airodump to connect alot of IVs, then use aircrack on that file. waste of time. unless you have the right card. and you dont. |
| 05:51.18 | omi_ | not realy |
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| 05:51.20 | tarzeau | hacim! |
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| 05:52.12 | hendry | g_eppel: have everything in / if it is just you |
| 05:52.37 | TwistedLappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.43 | jess0r | q/quit |
| 05:52.47 | g_eppel | hendry: what do you mean? |
| 05:52.53 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: you can. takes ages to get 1/2 mil of packets. |
| 05:52.58 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: is my wireless card in monitor mode? |
| 05:53.05 | g_eppel | I have one hd that isn't raided which will have my os, and two other hd's in a raid0 for storage |
| 05:53.21 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: yes. but your card is not smart enough to inject packets to the encrypted network. |
| 05:53.27 | tweak | bob2 how would I search for "12 year" and also has to have "cat" but dont have to be next to each other |
| 05:53.28 | tweak | ? |
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| 05:53.42 | Solet-deb | do i need to 'sync; sync; sync' every time i manually swapon a partition? or just after i 'mkswap'ed it (i have a second swap partition i made incase the first ever fills up i can switch it on |
| 05:53.47 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: #flood |
| 05:54.10 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: bob2 got you started. time for you to man grep |
| 05:55.05 | deadcat | tweak: bob2 got you started. time for you to man grep |
| 05:55.08 | tweak | anybody not just bob2 sorry hehe how would I search for "12 year" and also has to have "cat" but dont have to be next to each other |
| 05:55.10 | jm_ | tweak: man 7 regex, or try glark |
| 05:55.40 | PerKlunk | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/gp9GQe94.html |
| 05:56.25 | deadcat | PerKlunk: are you writing a book? (= |
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| 05:58.31 | hendry | g_eppel: I assume you are wondering to have /root on a seperate partition. don't bother. have everyhting in / |
| 05:58.39 | hendry | g_eppel: one partition |
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| 06:01.39 | seven_six_two | +swap |
| 06:02.44 | tweak | will grep "one" "two" *.txt work? |
| 06:02.52 | deadcat | tweak: no |
| 06:03.03 | tweak | do you know what will? |
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| 06:03.11 | deadcat | tweak: depends how you want one and two to be. next to each other? way off? |
| 06:03.32 | tweak | I want to search for a line in the text that has both those words in it. |
| 06:03.35 | hacim | tarzeau: we were trying to start a server to play |
| 06:03.40 | hacim | tarzeau: the existing ones have bad settings |
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| 06:03.52 | deadcat | tweak: then just grep one * |grep two |
| 06:03.59 | tweak | k thanks! |
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| 06:06.09 | g_eppel | I'm running 2.6.10-1-k7 does anybody know if raid support is compiled in this kernel, if it's not where should I be looking for the raid module (I'm using modconf to add modules). Thanks! |
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| 06:06.18 | RProgrammer | "$ gnome-session" starts gnome right? |
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| 06:06.23 | Growly | gidday |
| 06:06.27 | Growly | *Hello |
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| 06:06.50 | revelater | hey i had a bit of a problem with my deb computer |
| 06:06.53 | deadcat | RProgrammer: probably |
| 06:07.01 | deadcat | revelater: not me |
| 06:07.09 | revelater | the only user taht was allowed to connect to the net was root |
| 06:07.25 | Growly | Does anyone know if the Promise FastTrak Sx4's hardware RAID 5 controller is supported in linux yet? |
| 06:07.33 | bob2 | tweak: apply a little common sense |
| 06:07.42 | deadcat | revelater: bullshit |
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| 06:07.51 | revelater | the other user wasn't able to connect |
| 06:07.52 | bob2 | tweak: if grep "blah" shows lines with blah on it, what do you think 'grep blah | grep foo' does? |
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| 06:08.06 | Greenpop | How do I use my computer like it's a windows machine? I am the Root and I use another user name, how do I make it so I can start a program without being asked for a password? |
| 06:08.17 | deadcat | revelater: check the perm on /etc/resolv.conf |
| 06:08.18 | jetscreamer | hey bob2 FreeSTyLe is an on_join spambot |
| 06:08.27 | deadcat | revelater: can you telnet 147.144.1.2 ? |
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| 06:08.36 | revelater | i would have to check |
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| 06:08.47 | deadcat | revelater: else you wouldnt know |
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| 06:08.59 | revelater | and i will change permissions if i can |
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| 06:09.11 | deadcat | revelater: check. not chnage. |
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| 06:09.38 | RProgrammer | gnome-session fails with "Gtk WARNING **: cannot open display" |
| 06:09.54 | jm_ | RProgrammer: you're not supposed to start it on console |
| 06:10.01 | revelater | also, the dns server taht i am supposed to connect to keeps changing, and i cannot connect without dhclient running |
| 06:10.02 | RProgrammer | Then how? |
| 06:10.07 | deadcat | RProgrammer: startx |
| 06:10.10 | jm_ | RProgrammer: /msg dpkg /.xsession |
| 06:10.32 | jetscreamer | !xwontstart |
| 06:10.32 | dpkg | modprobe mousedev sometimes helps, or looking at the log in /var/log sometimes helps too |
| 06:10.57 | revelater | who is mod in here? |
| 06:11.05 | jetscreamer | perl |
| 06:11.14 | deadcat | revelater: who cares. |
| 06:11.18 | jetscreamer | (mod_perl yukyuk) |
| 06:11.19 | deadcat | revelater: you want to be? |
| 06:11.25 | revelater | not really |
| 06:11.29 | deadcat | revelater: then dont ask |
| 06:11.37 | revelater | i just want somebody booted if they are here |
| 06:11.37 | deadcat | we wont tell |
| 06:11.40 | RProgrammer | jm_> For apt-get, what is X11's package name? |
| 06:11.43 | revelater | FreeSTyLe |
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| 06:11.50 | jetscreamer | done deal revelater |
| 06:11.57 | jetscreamer | shit it came back? |
| 06:11.59 | revelater | i got sent a porno ad |
| 06:12.02 | deadcat | revelater: he was kicked already right? |
| 06:12.13 | jetscreamer | yeah but it's baaaack.. or was |
| 06:12.14 | skaught | RProgrammer: Well that usually depends. If you want a basic setup, x-window-system-core is a good virtual package |
| 06:12.15 | jm_ | RProgrammer: x-window-system-core if you want minimal list of required packages, or x-window-system for more |
| 06:12.16 | deadcat | bastard didnt give me the porn link )= |
| 06:12.22 | jetscreamer | did me |
| 06:12.24 | revelater | LOL |
| 06:12.33 | jetscreamer | revelater: /topic , /umode +E |
| 06:12.35 | deadcat | i never get the good stuff here... |
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| 06:12.48 | cplx | !fix oakland |
| 06:12.57 | RProgrammer | skaught jm_> thanks |
| 06:13.12 | revelater | ? |
| 06:13.18 | revelater | what did that do? |
| 06:13.22 | deadcat | oakland is NOT a ncie place to be at night. |
| 06:13.27 | deadcat | at anytime |
| 06:13.30 | cplx | indeed ;) |
| 06:13.37 | Solet | ok i'm moving my /home onto a different partition... i have it mounted to /mnt/ and i ran cp -av /home/ /mnt/ and it a) put a folder in mnt called /home/ (i want it to be the home not have home in it) and b) didnt copy a lot of files becaue it "failed to perserve ownership for `filenamehere': Operation not permitted" |
| 06:14.04 | jm_ | is /mnt some sort of vfat partition? |
| 06:14.11 | revelater | !kirk |
| 06:14.11 | deadcat | cplx: you in bay area too? (= |
| 06:14.19 | revelater | ? |
| 06:14.22 | revelater | bot sown? |
| 06:14.22 | RProgrammer | How do I reconfigure my apt sources list (using the installer's tool)? |
| 06:14.28 | revelater | bot down? |
| 06:14.32 | deadcat | RProgrammer: apt-setup |
| 06:14.38 | RProgrammer | cool |
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| 06:15.03 | revelater | hello?!?!? |
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| 06:15.15 | revelater | hello? |
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| 06:15.28 | revelater | wtf |
| 06:15.37 | Solet | revelater: it looks up to me |
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| 06:15.50 | Solet | (if you're talking about dpkg, that is) |
| 06:15.55 | mooded | hi all, somebody knows if its possible to build debian-packages that really only update a package instead of replacing it ? (which should mean, the updated package doesnt get removed first ..) |
| 06:15.55 | revelater | ok so what did that thing someone gave me do? |
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| 06:16.17 | revelater | i typed it in and now i have some wierd numbers and letters and such |
| 06:16.20 | deadcat | my desktop uptime is 15days. longest EVER! (= and now i am gonna reboot to the new kernel. |
| 06:16.37 | revelater | uptime is 22D 10:31 |
| 06:16.42 | kullanici | i added " PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin; export PATH " to .bash_profile file but i can't use bin directory in my account |
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| 06:16.57 | kullanici | it don't add $HOME/bin dir to PATH why? |
| 06:17.22 | deadcat | kullanici: because a terminal dont source .bash_profile. only login shells. |
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| 06:17.34 | revelater | it would be more but there was a recent power outage |
| 06:17.59 | deadcat | revelater: i usually shut it down when i sleep. usally uptime is 1day or less for the desktop (= |
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| 06:18.31 | revelater | deadcat: i want to see how long it takes for the computer to start acting wierd and force me to shut it down... |
| 06:18.48 | cafuego | Blarg. 1.9GB of ram in use. |
| 06:19.00 | Solet | deadcat: i'm moving my /home onto a different partition... i have it mounted to /mnt/ and i ran cp -av /home/ /mnt/ and it a) put a folder in mnt called /home/ (i want it to be the home not have home in it) and b) didnt copy a lot of files becaue it "failed to perserve ownership for `filenamehere': Operation not permitted". what am i doing wrong? |
| 06:19.07 | revelater | cafuego: what the hell are you running??? |
| 06:19.07 | kullanici | deadcat what can i do now ? |
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| 06:19.27 | cafuego | revelater: Nuffin much. Still 1.12GB of ram free. |
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| 06:19.48 | deadcat | Solet: question too long. cant answer you (= |
| 06:19.55 | deadcat | kullanici: whats your q? |
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| 06:20.19 | kullanici | question was "i added " PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin; export PATH " to .bash_profile file but i can't use bin directory in my account" what can i do? |
| 06:20.25 | deadcat | oh |
| 06:20.25 | revelater | cafuego: then why are you using so much ram... i mean a good ddebian install doesn't take more than 400mgs hard drive space, and thats with a windoows server |
| 06:20.30 | deadcat | kullanici: what terminal you use? |
| 06:20.32 | cafuego | Solet: Copy as root and copy to a fielsystem that supports permissions. |
| 06:20.33 | caphuso | kullanici: how are you logging in? |
| 06:20.37 | kullanici | deadcat xterm |
| 06:20.40 | deadcat | kullanici: or put that in .bashrc |
| 06:20.42 | kullanici | via putty |
| 06:20.42 | Solet | deadcat: how do i move /home/ to the partition /dev/hda7 ? cp -av /home/ /mnt/ fucks up (i have dev/hda7 mounted at /mnt) |
| 06:20.48 | deadcat | kullanici: oh. |
| 06:20.50 | caphuso | .bashrc is the wrong place |
| 06:20.54 | revelater | cafuego: do you have your whole system cached into your ram several times over? |
| 06:21.00 | cafuego | revelater: A system that stays up leaves accessed files in ram,a s disk cache. 1.7GB of the used ram is disk cache. |
| 06:21.22 | caphuso | kullanici: and you're sure that you are using bash as shell? |
| 06:21.25 | deadcat | kullanici: via putty will work. but if you open a xterm you either have to tell xterm to -ls option or setup a .Xdefaults file. |
| 06:21.28 | deadcat | reboot |
| 06:21.29 | revelater | is that why mine is using 220mgs when it shouldn |
| 06:21.34 | kullanici | caphuso yes |
| 06:21.39 | cafuego | And the other 100Mb is probably tmpfs |
| 06:21.51 | caphuso | deadcat: that's even more silly. just make sure that $PATH gets set when you log in and be done with it |
| 06:21.51 | cafuego | revelater: shouldn't? |
| 06:21.55 | revelater | yeah |
| 06:22.13 | cafuego | revelater: Would you rather unplug that ram, if you don't want to use it? |
| 06:22.27 | caphuso | otherwise you'll eventually run the PATH=foo:$PATH several consecutive times, making it longer and longer every time |
| 06:22.36 | nagual | hm |
| 06:22.36 | revelater | cafuego: i want it left for other more inportant things |
| 06:22.43 | Gathond | revelater: not used ram is wasted |
| 06:22.53 | revelater | like games |
| 06:23.05 | Gathond | revelater: tha cache gets emptied whenever eomsthing actually wants to use the memory |
| 06:23.06 | cafuego | revelater: No, you don't understand. |
| 06:23.09 | nagual | cafuego: i just read your last comment out of context, but it sounded like someone thinks he has too much ram. cool concept, i wasnt aware that 'too much ram' existed. |
| 06:23.09 | caphuso | kullanici: if you put a "echo hi there" in your .bash_profile, does it get executed when you log in? |
| 06:23.24 | kullanici | caphuso i added to .bashrc and it works now |
| 06:23.28 | k-man_ | man, somehoe someone executed a "udp.pl" script on my web server |
| 06:23.31 | caphuso | kullanici: no, it doesn't |
| 06:23.35 | revelater | yes i know, it just feels wrong when i have nearly half my ram used |
| 06:23.35 | caphuso | it just seems so |
| 06:23.37 | Gathond | revelater: there is no point in having 2 Gb memory just sitting there when you can cache stuff in it while it is just sitting there |
| 06:23.38 | cafuego | revelater: That ram contains data that has already been written to disk. If it's required for apps, the kernel simply discards it, then allocates ram for the app. |
| 06:23.46 | k-man_ | it totaly screwed my network |
| 06:23.53 | Solet | cafuego: friend of mine wants to know if you're serious about havng a 1TB scsi server for free, also he wants to know if its on a normal power plug of if its 3phase |
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| 06:24.12 | cafuego | revelater: if it otoh happens to access a file that's cached, it can get the data from ram WAY faster then spinning up 7 seeking on HD. |
| 06:24.18 | kullanici | cafuego "echo" don't work when i login |
| 06:24.26 | cafuego | Solet: Absolutely no idea. Where does he live? |
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| 06:24.45 | Solet | in aussie some where... said he has friends in melb |
| 06:25.03 | caphuso | kullanici: i'm caphuso. and you told your putty to do something weird, or you have a severly fucked up .bash_profile |
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| 06:25.20 | revelater | cafuego: yes i know, i came from windows and mac systems, so lots of ram that doesn't seem to go to anything is disturbing |
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| 06:25.44 | revelater | cafuego: i am slowly getting over it |
| 06:25.59 | Solet | deadcat: how do i move /home/ to the partition /dev/hda7 ? cp -av /home/ /mnt/ fucks up (i have dev/hda7 mounted at /mnt) |
| 06:26.23 | Guerin | define 'fucks up' |
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| 06:26.34 | Solet | i'm moving my /home onto a different partition... i have it mounted to /mnt/ and i ran cp -av /home/ /mnt/ and it a) put a folder in mnt called /home/ (i want it to be the home not have home in it) and b) didnt copy a lot of files becaue it "failed to perserve ownership for `filenamehere': Operation not permitted" |
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| 06:26.41 | deadcat | Solet: why not mkdir /mnt/hda7, mount /dev/hda7 /mnt/hda7; cp -a /home/* /mnt/hda7/ ? |
| 06:26.59 | deadcat | Solet: apt-get install mirrordir then man it |
| 06:27.12 | Guerin | Solet: be root. |
| 06:27.19 | Solet | guerin: i am |
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| 06:28.07 | Solet | deadcat: thats basicly what i've done cept i just mounted to /mnt/ and my cp command is cp -av /home/ /mnt/ |
| 06:28.27 | deadcat | Solet: do it as root and it WILL work. |
| 06:28.35 | deadcat | Solet: else you;re fucked |
| 06:28.39 | Solet | deadcat: i am root, its not working |
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| 06:29.12 | Solet | every file "failed to perserve ownership" |
| 06:30.23 | jm_ | I have already asked you - is hda7 vfat partition? |
| 06:30.34 | Solet | jm_: yes |
| 06:30.39 | jm_ | Solet: haha |
| 06:30.41 | Guerin | gah |
| 06:30.44 | Guerin | fucking idiot |
| 06:30.47 | Solet | well... fat32 but its the same isnt it |
| 06:30.54 | Guerin | Solet: use tar |
| 06:31.02 | Guerin | !moron Solet |
| 06:31.03 | dpkg | Solet: You are moron #24 |
| 06:31.04 | Gathond | Solet: yes, the same crappy filesystem, basically :) |
| 06:31.29 | Solet | guerin: tar is a filesystem? |
| 06:31.33 | jm_ | Solet: it won't work |
| 06:31.36 | Guerin | Solet: tar is an archiver |
| 06:31.47 | Solet | wtf am i archiving crap ofr |
| 06:31.51 | Solet | s/ofr/for |
| 06:32.01 | Solet | i want to use /dev/hda7 as my /home |
| 06:32.09 | Guerin | Solet: you can't. |
| 06:32.13 | Solet | i dont want /home on the same partition as my os |
| 06:32.21 | Solet | what fs do i need to put it there? |
| 06:32.22 | Gathond | Solet: youe really DONT want to use a fat 32 drive as /home |
| 06:32.25 | Guerin | Solet: format the partition to a sane filesystem, then |
| 06:32.40 | Guerin | you CANNOT use vfat as ~ and expect things like ssh to work |
| 06:32.42 | Solet | can we be a little more specific on 'sane' |
| 06:32.45 | Guerin | you simply cannot |
| 06:32.51 | Guerin | Solet: ext3 |
| 06:32.58 | Solet | guerin: please just ell me what to... ok thank you |
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| 06:33.15 | Gathond | Solet: any filesystem that supports unix permissione (ext2/3, xfs, ... ) probably just about anything but NTFS and FAT |
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| 06:33.48 | mynullvoid | hi all |
| 06:34.26 | Solet | omfg parted wont make an ext3.... thats crappy |
| 06:34.51 | skaught | Solet: try mke2fs -j /dev/hda7 |
| 06:34.52 | Solet | whats the difference between ext2 and ext3, and will ext2 work for putting /home on it? |
| 06:34.53 | Guerin | Solet: mkfs.ext3 |
| 06:35.20 | Guerin | don't use ext2 |
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| 06:35.26 | Guerin | christ |
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| 06:35.37 | Guerin | you REALLY need to get some basics down |
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| 06:36.09 | revelater | Guerin: whats wrong with ext2? |
| 06:36.31 | Guerin | revelater: no journal |
| 06:36.33 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 06:36.37 | Guerin | otherwise it's a great filesystem |
| 06:36.49 | fnx | is there any reason why a fujitsu 40gb hard drive with 2 fat32 partitions would completely fail to get noticed by sarge? |
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| 06:36.59 | Solet | guerin: i'll be the first to admit that... i dont understand filesystems at all... |
| 06:36.59 | skaught | revelater: Well, if it's uncleanly mounted you have to fsck the whole thing. Every damn time. The addition of a journal in ext3 solves this problem |
| 06:37.01 | revelater | Guerin: what does the journal do? |
| 06:37.20 | nullvoid | how can I convert .snp (microsoft snapshot) file to txt or any editable file? at lease I can select copy and paste? |
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| 06:37.34 | Guerin | nullvoid: good luck with that. |
| 06:37.55 | jm_ | fnx: noticed in what way? |
| 06:38.34 | nullvoid | Guerin: what you mean? some one send me a requirement list in 50 pages so I need to edit it |
| 06:38.48 | revelater | nullvoid: open it as a text file select and copy out the parts that make sense? |
| 06:39.04 | Guerin | nullvoid: i have no idea, good luck googling. |
| 06:39.08 | Solet | ext3 talks alot when i do the most basic things to it (ie mounting it and it pasted 3 lines of output about the journal starting and such |
| 06:39.08 | fnx | well, it doesn't appear to exist...it shows up fine in POST and stuff, and i was playing mp3s off it earlier, when i was using a liveCD |
| 06:39.21 | nullvoid | revelater: let me try |
| 06:39.24 | Guerin | Solet: cry me a fucking river. |
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| 06:39.42 | fnx | but now i've installed sarge and the damn thing's just not showing up |
| 06:40.27 | Solet | guerin: is there a way i can check to make sure that /mnt and /solet are byte by byte identical before i kill the old /home? |
| 06:40.46 | revelater | how do i keep dhclient from changing my resolv.conf file? |
| 06:41.00 | Guerin | Solet: use rsync; it checks hashes as it goes. |
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| 06:41.31 | Guerin | revelater: make it unwriteable? |
| 06:41.39 | revelater | i tried that |
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| 06:42.11 | calmar | hi all, I have flac files, and ls won't recognize them. I did a export LS_COLORS="${LS_COLORS}*.flac=01;35:" so that works. There is no /etc/DIR_COLORS files around obviously. is *that* the way to tweak the colors the debian way? |
| 06:42.12 | Solet | how do i enable rsync? |
| 06:42.21 | dondelelcaro | Solet: you don't enable it, you run rsync |
| 06:42.35 | revelater | wait |
| 06:42.39 | Guerin | !installit |
| 06:42.39 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 06:42.42 | Solet | i installed it but it said "rsync daemon not enabled in /etc/defaults/rsync" |
| 06:42.49 | Das-UberNuN | i have hda fine, hdb's my burner, and hdd is my cdrom, there's no sign of hdc, though |
| 06:42.52 | Guerin | Solet: so enable it. |
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| 06:42.58 | cafuego | Solet: Which part of that message is unclear? |
| 06:42.58 | dondelelcaro | calmar: man dircolors; or info coreutils dircolors |
| 06:43.02 | Guerin | Solet: not that you have to - it works just like cp |
| 06:43.11 | revelater | Guerin: maybe i didn't do it right, what would be the appropriate chmod number for that? |
| 06:43.13 | calmar | ok, dondelelcaro , thx |
| 06:43.28 | Guerin | revelater: chmod -w will do it. |
| 06:43.37 | Guerin | revelater: not sure if this will work, however |
| 06:43.39 | Solet | so rsync -a /home/* /mnt/ and it will check itself as it goes? |
| 06:43.49 | revelater | Guerin: cool i will try it tomorrow |
| 06:43.55 | pe-de-moleque | Das-UberNuN, i think sarge do not detect and (re)build /etc/fstab for that partition type on install |
| 06:43.57 | Guerin | does -a get dotfiles too? |
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| 06:44.03 | Guerin | i think it does... |
| 06:44.04 | pe-de-moleque | maybe mount manually? |
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| 06:45.48 | Solet | guerin by dot files do you mean "blah.blah" or ".blah" |
| 06:46.48 | qwertz_ | Has anybody a (link to a) shortcut list for vim? |
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| 06:47.13 | Guerin | a dotfile is a file whose name begins with a . |
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| 06:48.45 | revelater | hey i installed samba then swat, but couldn't get either to work... anyone know if the dep packages are broken or an easy fix? |
| 06:49.08 | Guerin | revelater: what branch of debian? |
| 06:49.09 | deadcat | revelater: start them up |
| 06:49.18 | revelater | sarge |
| 06:49.23 | Das-UberNuN | pe-de-moleque: thanks, that worked fine |
| 06:49.26 | revelater | and they were started |
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| 06:49.39 | Das-UberNuN | how do i save that so that they remain mounted after i reboot? |
| 06:49.47 | Guerin | revelater: samba is not broken in sarge. |
| 06:50.05 | deadcat | Das-UberNuN: you mean next reboot? /etc/fstab |
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| 06:50.08 | revelater | Guerin: it aint working either |
| 06:50.20 | skaught | I've been using samba with sarge on my server at home for a year solid with zero problems |
| 06:50.43 | edison | Does the kernel 2.6.10 is more stable then the kernel 2.6.11 ? |
| 06:50.45 | revelater | i do have a pretty complicated network |
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| 06:50.53 | Das-UberNuN | what do i do to to fstab to make the partitions stay on their mount points? |
| 06:50.58 | skaught | revelater: Complicated? |
| 06:51.06 | deadcat | Das-UberNuN: man fstab |
| 06:51.09 | revelater | lots of computers and two other servers |
| 06:51.24 | deadcat | !slap TwistedEmotions like a worthless whore |
| 06:51.26 | TwistedEmotions | Weeeeee |
| 06:51.41 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: hey, quick q: does the dcc chatline work on blootbot? |
| 06:51.53 | skaught | revelater: A single lan? Complicated would not apply. |
| 06:51.55 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: it does if you've patched libnet-irc-perl |
| 06:51.57 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i just rebooted to a new kernel (= |
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| 06:52.00 | Solet | Guerin: yes rsync -a coppies dot files, i tested it :P, but is there another way i can double check to make sure everything was moved correctly? with out line by line compairing manually? |
| 06:52.01 | revelater | !slap revelater like a bad boy |
| 06:52.05 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Ahaa! |
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| 06:52.10 | netstat_ | How do I check the disk for errors? |
| 06:52.14 | TwistedEmotions | the violence... the violence.. I believe it was malcomx that said... can't we all just get along and run sid? if not I will kill you all... |
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| 06:52.27 | Guerin | Solet: ls -lr and diff |
| 06:52.38 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Can you tell me where to fetch said patch? :-) |
| 06:52.40 | Das-UberNuN | right, now how do i get my onboard VIA sound working |
| 06:52.41 | revelater | well, in either case it doesn't work |
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| 06:52.58 | skaught | TwistedEmotions: now that you are on Sid you are not allowed to ask any more questions |
| 06:52.59 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: What kernel? |
| 06:53.00 | revelater | Das-UberNuN: run alsa-config |
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| 06:53.03 | revelater | i think |
| 06:53.05 | Das-UberNuN | done that |
| 06:53.05 | skaught | TwistedEmotions: ;) |
| 06:53.11 | TwistedEmotions | !downgrade |
| 06:53.12 | dpkg | i guess downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
| 06:53.14 | edison | Help, Does the kernel 2.6.10 is more stable then the kernel 2.6.11 ? |
| 06:53.19 | Das-UberNuN | it can't detect my soundcard for some reason |
| 06:53.20 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: 2.6.11.11 with few patches. and changes. |
| 06:53.25 | revelater | Das-UberNuN: make sure the volume isn't muted |
| 06:53.32 | deadcat | edison: do you notice? then no |
| 06:53.36 | revelater | Das-UberNuN: ohh |
| 06:53.38 | KerPlunk | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/YNe4rn84.html .. << That is my XF86Config-4 file...everything works fine... 3d acceleration etc...but my third button on my mouse(the wheel) doesn't work...and I can't switch guns unless it works...and I die a lot. :( |
| 06:53.46 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: it's in the upstream distribution, and it may be distributed with the Debian package. |
| 06:53.46 | moyix | is there a way to automagically create deb packages of python modules, ala dh-make-perl? |
| 06:53.50 | KerPlunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.51 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Bahh... so you think your cool? |
| 06:53.57 | revelater | Das-UberNuN: and its a via soundcard? |
| 06:53.58 | deadcat | yes. very |
| 06:54.07 | KerPlunk | Is what I have in there, I tried with it commented and uncommented...then restarted X...neither made a difference. |
| 06:54.11 | KerPlunk | Anyone have any idea? |
| 06:54.13 | Das-UberNuN | yeah, VIA ac'97 |
| 06:54.14 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: I can dcc it to you if it helps... you may need to apply it manually |
| 06:54.26 | Das-UberNuN | it shows up on discover |
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| 06:54.40 | skaught | KerPlunk: Your third button is not the wheel. However, what you want are buttons 4 5, 'Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |
| 06:54.44 | revelater | Das-UberNuN: did you runthe alsa config program in command line with xserver off? |
| 06:54.44 | tarzeau | hacim: what's the problem? just start one |
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| 06:54.56 | netstat_ | Ahh cool.. is that what that does!! |
| 06:55.05 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: That's fine.. can you email it instead though? |
| 06:55.11 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: sure |
| 06:55.17 | Das-UberNuN | revelator: uh.....no |
| 06:55.17 | POVaddct | KerPlunk: Emulate3Buttons is for mouse _without_ a 3rd button |
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| 06:55.32 | netstat_ | skaught didn't know what that ZAxis did until now |
| 06:55.46 | netstat_ | thanks |
| 06:55.48 | cafuego | POVaddct: A 3button mouse works fine with emulate3buttons enabled. |
| 06:55.53 | revelater | Das-UberNuN: there have been many instances of conflict betweent the two, just make sure xserver is completely off and try it again |
| 06:55.56 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: hahahha going to run 2.7...beat that. |
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| 06:56.06 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahah. |
| 06:56.08 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: sent |
| 06:56.27 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: received :-) |
| 06:56.28 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: linux or mach? |
| 06:56.32 | revelater | is there any way to talk on this channel as root? |
| 06:56.33 | Das-UberNuN | i just open a shell, type "init 3" then "alsaconfig" right? |
| 06:56.33 | tarzeau | actually, GNU Mach |
| 06:56.34 | KerPlunk | skaught: I have that option. |
| 06:56.36 | KerPlunk | Check the link. |
| 06:56.37 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: cool |
| 06:56.41 | tarzeau | revelater: yes, but it's wrong |
| 06:56.48 | nullvoid | can linux open .snp file? |
| 06:56.50 | cafuego | X-Spam-Status: NO |
| 06:56.56 | cafuego | goo'boy ;-) |
| 06:56.57 | revelater | Das-UberNuN: i think there is a special program that needs to be killed |
| 06:56.58 | tarzeau | nullvoid: what says file the.snp |
| 06:56.59 | hacim | tarzeau: it wouldn't register with the internet games list |
| 06:57.01 | Solet | guerin: are suggesting something like ls -lr /mnt; ls -lr /home | diff ???? |
| 06:57.11 | skaught | KerPlunk: Does your mouse wheel work in other applications besides your game in which you frequently die? |
| 06:57.17 | TwistedEmotions | tarzeau: linux. you want a copy of the kernel too.. ? Just going to be 2.6.11.11 renamed 2.7 |
| 06:57.18 | tarzeau | hacim: you have to click the checker for register on metaserver |
| 06:57.20 | netstat_ | Hahah |
| 06:57.22 | revelater | Das-UberNuN: so make sure you type killall xdm or gdm or kdm, whichever you have |
| 06:57.32 | revelater | or killall xserver |
| 06:57.32 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: nah. i don't like linux |
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| 06:57.44 | KerPlunk | skaught: no |
| 06:57.47 | KerPlunk | Doesn't work on any apps |
| 06:57.48 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: bloat |
| 06:57.54 | tarzeau | hacim: we play again, tonight? |
| 06:57.56 | hacim | tarzeau: the checker? I ran bubbob/bb.py -m to register with the metasserver |
| 06:58.17 | TwistedEmotions | tarzeau: yeah... my GB has bloating too... maybe she is linux based? |
| 06:58.21 | KerPlunk | And I checked my old XF86Config-4(the one that was auto generated when I formatted)...and the wheel worked fine..My mouse settings are identical. |
| 06:58.29 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: GB? |
| 06:58.30 | TwistedEmotions | *GF |
| 06:58.34 | TwistedEmotions | Grrr.. |
| 06:58.38 | tarzeau | hacim: no idea, i use the browser |
| 06:58.42 | TwistedEmotions | good joke wasted on a typo.. |
| 06:58.51 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: on what part has she bloat? |
| 06:58.52 | deadcat | hahaah |
| 06:59.06 | Guerin | Solet: no; do the rsync and then ls -r or find the contents into two textfiles, the diff them |
| 06:59.10 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Hmm, I imagine the moving of a whitespace line in the first part of that patch isn't critical? |
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| 06:59.19 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: nah |
| 06:59.34 | TwistedEmotions | tarzeau: complaints part of the brain? |
| 06:59.40 | hacim | tarzeau: you use scratch level file? |
| 06:59.51 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: I've no clue who even wrote that patch, since half of it is pointless. |
| 06:59.52 | tarzeau | hacim: usually arena (oroginal BUBBLE BOBBLE levels) |
| 06:59.55 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: when do i volunteer? |
| 06:59.58 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: I just made the two changes manually |
| 07:00.04 | tarzeau | hacim: but i've played them all of course. #bub-n-bros |
| 07:00.04 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: do i get in earlier? (= |
| 07:00.18 | tarzeau | RichiH, jethro morning. recovered? |
| 07:00.31 | Guerin | jethro always recovers |
| 07:00.34 | KerPlunk | skaught: here is my XF86Config-4 file where the wheel works...but 3d accel doesn't...before fglrxconfig changed the file... >> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/p2KRSH32.html |
| 07:00.40 | tarzeau | paulswm: still workin? |
| 07:00.42 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: ah... I (or huhlig) will send an announcement to bad and probably vox with the wiki so people can sign up |
| 07:00.48 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Um, i only see one in this patch. |
| 07:00.48 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: dont let deadcat in... he steals packets and cookies and things of that sort... |
| 07:00.52 | tarzeau | Guerin: you talk way too much, look here |
| 07:00.54 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 07:00.55 | dpkg | i guess debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 07:00.59 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: k |
| 07:00.59 | KerPlunk | And this is teh new one....where 3d accel works well...but wheel doesn't work >> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/YNe4rn84.html |
| 07:01.17 | tarzeau | Guerin: omg i'm on 3! |
| 07:01.19 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: - $one =~ s/^$ctype //i; # strip the CTCP type off the args and + $handler, (split /\s/, $one))); |
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| 07:01.27 | Guerin | tarzeau: haha |
| 07:01.35 | cafuego | No, I lie. |
| 07:01.39 | deadcat | i want to win an ipod shuffle (= |
| 07:01.44 | Guerin | tarzeau: i have a boring job which affords me plenty of free time at a computer |
| 07:01.46 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: going to be at work all fucking day tommorow again... getting tan as hell.. going to sleep man.. gnite. |
| 07:01.57 | tarzeau | Guerin: and intarnet! |
| 07:01.59 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: where at? |
| 07:02.19 | tarzeau | Guerin: why don't you make some debian packages? |
| 07:02.19 | Guerin | tarzeau: too stupid |
| 07:02.19 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: 1 exit up from my house... |
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| 07:02.21 | tarzeau | what about this? |
| 07:02.24 | tarzeau | !bub-n-bros |
| 07:02.24 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh. |
| 07:02.24 | dpkg | http://bub-n-bros.sf.net - #bub-n-bros - there is no debian package yet. get the tarball on sf.net, and run BubBob.py |
| 07:02.26 | deadcat | later |
| 07:02.30 | Guerin | heh |
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| 07:02.36 | Guerin | i'm on a korean win98 box |
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| 07:02.47 | tarzeau | Guerin: it works also on wingdows |
| 07:02.48 | Guerin | shelled into my own machine at home |
| 07:03.01 | exobyte | quick dumb question- how can I view the current nat stuff (port->host) |
| 07:03.04 | revelater | how do i close a private message |
| 07:03.04 | revelater | ? |
| 07:03.08 | Guerin | and I also have to at least PRETEND to be doing something productive |
| 07:03.26 | Guerin | if I'm just typing into a terminal window they presume I'm doing something worthwhile |
| 07:03.27 | KerPlunk | revelater: /close |
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| 07:03.36 | Guerin | whereas bub-n-bros would be a dead giveaway |
| 07:03.38 | deadcat | Guerin: arent you lucky. get paid to chat here. |
| 07:03.44 | Guerin | deadcat: aren't I. |
| 07:04.03 | tarzeau | exobyte: ipmasqadm portfw -ln |
| 07:04.08 | Guerin | i don't strictly get paid in my off hours... it's sort of complicated |
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| 07:04.52 | tarzeau | hey PeTeRB :) had sweet dreams? |
| 07:05.04 | deadcat | should i pay $75 for a cobalt qube3? 450mhz (amd) small thing (server) but not sure how to put debian on it though. |
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| 07:05.13 | exobyte | tarzeau: damn router has a stripped down distro. I have iptables |
| 07:05.29 | tarzeau | exobyte: that sucks. get debian |
| 07:06.14 | exobyte | tarzeau: on a 8mb of flash memory? |
| 07:06.33 | tarzeau | exobyte: okay not on that |
| 07:07.09 | revelater | i tried that and it doesn't close, i am however, using irssi |
| 07:07.30 | bathat | re, |
| 07:07.36 | tarzeau | deadcat: definitely, check again if it really works |
| 07:07.40 | tarzeau | deadcat: the case is sexy |
| 07:07.45 | tarzeau | deadcat: memory? |
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| 07:09.02 | deadcat | tarzeau: i think its only 128 or 256 but i can add that. |
| 07:09.04 | revelater | deadcat: gentoo might be better suited for something of that size and position |
| 07:09.06 | deadcat | tarzeau: the case rocks (= |
| 07:09.15 | deadcat | revelater: you stupid? |
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| 07:09.32 | tarzeau | deadcat: that's way enough |
| 07:09.33 | revelater | deadcat: no are you? |
| 07:09.37 | deadcat | revelater: ask around see how much i hate gentoo |
| 07:09.41 | tarzeau | deadcat: you can play http://bub-n-bros.sf.net on that! |
| 07:09.46 | deadcat | revelater: no. |
| 07:09.55 | revelater | tarzeau: how much does deadcat hate gentoo? |
| 07:09.56 | tarzeau | revelater: bullshit |
| 07:09.56 | deadcat | tarzeau: hahaha. |
| 07:10.06 | tarzeau | revelater: GENTOO IS TEH UCKS |
| 07:10.42 | revelater | tarzeau: you realize that senence made no sense? |
| 07:11.11 | deadcat | tarzeau: actually 512MB ram. 40gig. but this is qube3. the qube 2 is mips and that works with debian for sure. |
| 07:11.12 | revelater | *sentence |
| 07:11.14 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: No joy :-( |
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| 07:12.15 | deadcat | tarzeau: someone got redhat on the q3 but i dont want that... if i can get sarge. i am set for a server to host my gallery and webpage. assuming its quiet as well (= |
| 07:12.39 | KerPlunk | !start a distro war |
| 07:12.39 | dpkg | Gentoo 0wnz! |
| 07:12.51 | simonrvn | neither did senence |
| 07:12.52 | deadcat | dpkg: shutup |
| 07:12.52 | dpkg | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 07:13.05 | KerPlunk | dpkg: shutup |
| 07:13.06 | dpkg | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 07:13.16 | KerPlunk | Everyone is it's master. |
| 07:13.17 | KerPlunk | doesn't seem right |
| 07:13.36 | wheatie | Hello, i'm rather new to Debian, but how difficult would a dist-upgrade be from 3.1 unstable from 3.1 stable when it's released? |
| 07:13.40 | tarzeau | deadcat: very cool! |
| 07:13.40 | kneet | If it's real master told it to shutup - should it answer? |
| 07:13.47 | simonrvn | ravenbird: shtup |
| 07:13.48 | ravenbird | no idea, simonrvn |
| 07:13.50 | simonrvn | ravenbird: shutup |
| 07:13.51 | tarzeau | deadcat: you have photos of your sister on your gallery? |
| 07:13.51 | ravenbird | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 07:13.57 | deadcat | tarzeau: actually my ex has a qube3 and i thought she was gonna give it to me (=... |
| 07:13.58 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 07:14.20 | deadcat | tarzeau: no. but i have me humping a penguin |
| 07:14.20 | simonrvn | ravenbird: factinfo shutup |
| 07:14.20 | ravenbird | shutup -- created by DanielS <daniel@get.a.beer.from.my.openfridge.net> at Wed Jun 5 11:37:23 2002 (1092 days); it has been requested 9 times, last by simonrvn, 21s ago. |
| 07:14.20 | tarzeau | www.linuks.mine.nu/stfu-noob.jpg |
| 07:14.20 | KerPlunk | wheatie: You can't downgrade from unstable(sid) to stable. |
| 07:14.20 | tarzeau | deadcat: ow show me! |
| 07:14.20 | KerPlunk | You'll just have to format wheatie |
| 07:14.38 | tarzeau | deadcat: i have nethack dragon pictures! here: D |
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| 07:14.44 | tarzeau | and here: D |
| 07:14.45 | revelater | dpkg: shutup |
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| 07:14.49 | wheatie | no no... sarge ahhh it's "testing" sorry |
| 07:14.50 | deadcat | tarzeau: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2004/20040803.linux.world.expo/IMG_0044.JPG |
| 07:14.53 | wheatie | i meant testing to stable |
| 07:14.58 | revelater | except for me |
| 07:15.18 | KerPlunk | wheatie: You want ot downgrade form testing(sarge) to stable(woody) |
| 07:15.22 | KerPlunk | ? |
| 07:15.24 | cafuego | [bathat]: Stop dicking with your script. |
| 07:15.24 | simonrvn | ravenbird: shutup |
| 07:15.24 | ravenbird | no, you shut up. |
| 07:15.26 | omi_ | is there gcc 4.0 package? |
| 07:15.34 | simonrvn | better |
| 07:15.41 | tarzeau | omi_: sure |
| 07:15.42 | deadcat | what the. |
| 07:15.44 | wheatie | stable sarge was about a week or so away i thought |
| 07:15.47 | revelater | ravenbird: sit down |
| 07:15.47 | ravenbird | revelater: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 07:15.50 | wheatie | this is what I was referring to |
| 07:15.51 | wheatie | :-) |
| 07:15.51 | omi_ | do you have apt-source? |
| 07:15.54 | KerPlunk | wheatie: yea and? |
| 07:15.55 | deadcat | !tell [bathat] about away |
| 07:15.58 | spdf | deadcat, I see some grab assin' too |
| 07:16.00 | tarzeau | wheatie: 3 days left |
| 07:16.06 | KerPlunk | wheatie: So you are using testing(sarge) right now? |
| 07:16.09 | wheatie | yes |
| 07:16.12 | KerPlunk | And when stable comes out..you want to know how to get it? |
| 07:16.13 | deadcat | spdf: thats me too. they were doing a presentation |
| 07:16.24 | KerPlunk | All you do is.. apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 07:16.27 | spdf | deadcat, Haha, good times.. |
| 07:16.35 | deadcat | spdf: this year i will try to pretend i drop something and bend over (= |
| 07:16.39 | john | && apt-get autoclean |
| 07:16.39 | john | ;p |
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| 07:16.51 | spdf | ...down with the pants... |
| 07:17.03 | revelater | ? |
| 07:17.04 | deadcat | spdf: i dnot want to be escorted out. |
| 07:17.06 | wheatie | sorry about the confusion pon my behalf, and thanks |
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| 07:17.11 | deadcat | spdf: or i will hump dondelelcaro (= |
| 07:17.11 | wheatie | -p |
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| 07:17.17 | spdf | deadcat, Put something "linuxy" underneath.. |
| 07:17.30 | revelater | hey, since when has a bootloader comeinto a irc channel??? |
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| 07:17.50 | omi_ | tarzeau, can you paste apt source entry? |
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| 07:18.20 | tarzeau | omi_: experimental i think, or doko repo. ask google, i don't need 4.0 i need 4.0.1 or 4.1 (with objective-c++) |
| 07:18.56 | deadcat | [bathat]: turn that shit off or get out |
| 07:19.02 | revelater | sarge sucks, it downs't have xorg... |
| 07:19.11 | deadcat | revelater: woody does. |
| 07:19.12 | revelater | i have to get it manually |
| 07:19.33 | simonrvn | @tell [bathat] -about away |
| 07:19.41 | revelater | deadcat: your kidding me??? but woody doesn't work on my comp for some reason |
| 07:19.48 | prk | hello! can ltrace log library calls that are not executed directly by a program, but rather by another libraries? |
| 07:19.50 | deadcat | revelater: it works here. |
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| 07:20.12 | exobyte | how do I say in iptables drop all packets from x.x.x.x? How do I reverse it? iptables, the command |
| 07:20.18 | revelater | deadcat: hey, so how do i talk on this channel as root? i may be forced to tommorrow |
| 07:20.24 | revelater | deadcat: for help |
| 07:20.31 | jm_ | exobyte: reverse what? |
| 07:20.33 | exobyte | revelater: do /nick foobar |
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| 07:20.35 | deadcat | revelater: create a new user then irssi in here. |
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| 07:20.50 | [bathat] | deadcat: sorry, just experimenting |
| 07:20.51 | exobyte | jm_: stop dropping them |
| 07:20.58 | deadcat | [bathat]: dont do it here. |
| 07:20.59 | [bathat] | it has been disabled |
| 07:21.24 | revelater | deadcat: users can't access the net, only root |
| 07:21.24 | deadcat | revelater: stop bullshiting me |
| 07:21.24 | exobyte | jm_: I have a computer infected with a virus and I want to kick it from the interned. damn thing keeps im-ing me |
| 07:21.24 | revelater | i am not |
| 07:21.41 | revelater | deadcat: i don't think your cursing is helping either of us |
| 07:21.45 | deadcat | revelater: common man. this aint #gentoo. we know how user/root works (= |
| 07:21.48 | akak | which is the complete source of a package? there is a orig.tar.bz file, there is a C file and others. |
| 07:21.50 | spdf | Haha.. oh lord. |
| 07:21.52 | [bathat] | let me just make absolute sure away message won't display to screen |
| 07:21.59 | [bathat] | good |
| 07:22.03 | deadcat | revelater: it sure dont help you |
| 07:22.44 | revelater | exobyte: a virus in linux?!?!? |
| 07:22.58 | exobyte | revelater: no.. he's on windows. the router is on linux |
| 07:23.24 | revelater | deadcat: no seriously, how would i communicate with this channel while root |
| 07:23.29 | revelater | ? |
| 07:23.31 | streuner_ | !info clamav |
| 07:23.33 | dpkg | clamav: (antivirus scanner for Unix), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.85.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 188 kB |
| 07:23.37 | revelater | exobyte: you just about had me worried |
| 07:23.53 | exobyte | revelater: oh, sudo nonroot irssi/bitchx |
| 07:23.58 | deadcat | revelater: IRCNAME=somedude irssi then /nick somedude |
| 07:23.59 | jm_ | exobyte: I don't understand what you want to do |
| 07:24.03 | Guerin | akak: the .orig. is the upstream source; there should be a diff.gz and a .dsc |
| 07:24.08 | simonrvn | revelater: what the fuck is fucking wrong with a bit of fucking swearing? |
| 07:24.16 | deadcat | revelater: or IRCNICK=somedude |
| 07:24.25 | simonrvn | does anyone know whta the fuck is wrong with fucking swearing? |
| 07:24.31 | exobyte | jm_: the router gets a request from some ip (my brother's computer). drop it |
| 07:24.33 | revelater | deadcat: i see |
| 07:24.43 | simonrvn | fucking swearing is fucking neat some-fucking-\times |
| 07:24.52 | simonrvn | s/\// |
| 07:24.56 | revelater | simonrvn: it is anoying and brings the social level of the enviroment to that of the third grade |
| 07:24.58 | akak | Guerin, yes, all these files are there. If i want the complete source program, where should i look for? |
| 07:25.12 | simonrvn | revelater: how does it do that? |
| 07:25.24 | streuner_ | so what the fuck is so sweat with fucking and all the fucking words? ;-) |
| 07:25.25 | simonrvn | it's language, play with it |
| 07:25.33 | simonrvn | streuner_: haha |
| 07:25.45 | revelater | simonrvn: it does that by showing how little control you have over yourself and how little consideration you have of others |
| 07:26.06 | simonrvn | bullshit, i had to think about it. i think all the time, thank you much. |
| 07:26.09 | simonrvn | very* |
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| 07:26.40 | simonrvn | shows you have no sense of humour... |
| 07:26.57 | cafuego | Fucken oath. |
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| 07:27.09 | cafuego | Also shows you're not Australian. |
| 07:27.10 | revelater | simonrvn: i just don't consider ti to be productive and a very crude way to show humor |
| 07:27.13 | simonrvn | fuckin' eh |
| 07:27.23 | cafuego | revelater: See that /ignore key? |
| 07:27.32 | simonrvn | revelater: please get off the high horse or welcome to my /ignore list |
| 07:27.34 | spdf | cafuego, right next to the any key.. |
| 07:27.47 | simonrvn | spdf: hehe |
| 07:27.47 | TinoW | cafuego: would like to see the keyboard with that key |
| 07:27.51 | akak | revelater, you are right. there's a bunch of stinking, rotten low-down breed here. these vulgar anti-socials should not be allowed here. |
| 07:27.54 | cafuego | spdf: right under the LOLOL key |
| 07:28.00 | revelater | no but i now acknoledge the /ignore command =P |
| 07:28.02 | spdf | cafuego, LOZLL!! |
| 07:28.03 | KerPlunk | swearing just shows you are uneducated...and you can't articulate yourself properly, imho |
| 07:28.21 | akak | KerPlunk, i totally agree. |
| 07:28.25 | drag_sid | I can articulate all over the place... |
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| 07:28.40 | revelater | KerPlunk: now thats humoruose |
| 07:28.41 | cafuego | KerPlunk: what the fuck does my dropping out of kindergarten ahve to bloody do with anything? |
| 07:28.49 | simonrvn | KerPlunk: may your psetilent vile excrement reveal to be as stinky as the queen's |
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| 07:29.00 | simonrvn | ooh |
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| 07:29.10 | cafuego | simonrvn: Yucky typos. |
| 07:29.15 | TinoW | KerPlunk: well. it depends a bit on where and how much ones does it |
| 07:29.17 | spdf | Tisk. |
| 07:29.18 | TinoW | one |
| 07:29.23 | akak | simonrvn, you a damned Brit? |
| 07:29.24 | revelater | drag_sid: thats another word your thinking of... |
| 07:29.27 | simonrvn | cafuego: i know, i know. oh well :| |
| 07:29.36 | drag_sid | :) |
| 07:29.37 | simonrvn | akak: nah, canuck by birth |
| 07:29.47 | [bathat] | when i do "hostname -i" i get back 127.0.0.1 ... is this what it should be? |
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| 07:29.57 | revelater | hey that ignore thing is pretty nice |
| 07:29.59 | akak | simonrvn, why are you talking about queen? |
| 07:30.06 | cafuego | KerPlunk: When you speak 4 languages you can lecture me about articulating oneself. |
| 07:30.15 | simonrvn | akak: get a bit of knowledge about .ca and see why |
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| 07:30.21 | spdf | [bathat], Yep. You're localhost. |
| 07:30.22 | cafuego | KerPlunk: Until then kindy don't. |
| 07:30.23 | revelater | cafuego: ok i speak four languages |
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| 07:30.48 | prk | bye |
| 07:30.51 | KerPlunk | I speak three |
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| 07:30.56 | [bathat] | spdf: should i change this to something else or... |
| 07:30.57 | revelater | cafuego: i can curse fluently in all 4 :P but i don't |
| 07:30.57 | [bathat] | something more unique |
| 07:30.58 | KerPlunk | Is that good enough to lecture you? |
| 07:31.02 | [bathat] | or does it not matter? |
| 07:31.04 | spdf | [bathat], Why? |
| 07:31.05 | cafuego | KerPlunk: 4 is *four*, not 3. |
| 07:31.12 | akak | being able to speak many vulgar languages don't mean much. |
| 07:31.20 | KerPlunk | see...I'm just not smart enough for this conversation. |
| 07:31.23 | spdf | [bathat], You'd likely break some things.. |
| 07:31.23 | [bathat] | spdf: no reason in particular |
| 07:31.24 | KerPlunk | I'll kindly step out of it. |
| 07:31.38 | [bathat] | spdf: that's a good reason not to mess around with it then, thanks |
| 07:31.43 | cafuego | Da's een goed idee. |
| 07:31.49 | KerPlunk | cafuego: I bow to you...you have a way with words. |
| 07:32.09 | padawanux | can you tell me where to find old .deb files please ? |
| 07:32.15 | cafuego | KerPlunk: And numbers too, it would seem. |
| 07:32.52 | cafuego | shingouz: Don't. |
| 07:32.56 | cafuego | sshock: Don't. |
| 07:32.56 | simonrvn | sshock: yeh... |
| 07:32.57 | cafuego | shingouz: Do. |
| 07:33.04 | drag_sid | padawanux: stuff you already downloaded? /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 07:33.05 | simonrvn | shingouz: @ff |
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| 07:33.12 | drag_sid | otherwise check out ftp sites. |
| 07:33.18 | exobyte | What's the command to get iptables to drop all packets from some ip and not forward to that ip? |
| 07:33.19 | TinoW | sshock: /ignore *!*@* |
| 07:33.21 | drag_sid | you may get lucky. |
| 07:33.38 | simonrvn | TinoW: hehe |
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| 07:33.57 | TinoW | hrhr |
| 07:33.57 | revelater | cafuego: i can actually curse pretty well in about 3 other languages |
| 07:33.59 | jm_ | exobyte: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/ |
| 07:34.29 | exobyte | jm_: yeah.. I was there already.. big page |
| 07:34.34 | simonrvn | cafuego: w00t |
| 07:34.43 | simonrvn | @cafuego++ |
| 07:34.59 | jm_ | exobyte: indeed, but very useful - you just DROP/REJECT the packets |
| 07:35.23 | jethro | hello #debian |
| 07:35.26 | padawanux | drag_sid, nope, old, very old .deb files |
| 07:35.32 | exobyte | jm_: and pray I have the right ip |
| 07:35.34 | padawanux | that i didn't ever download |
| 07:36.02 | simonrvn | hello jethro tull (sorry, couldn't resist ;) |
| 07:36.06 | revelater | kamsahamnida thankyou |
| 07:36.12 | revelater | kawaiii |
| 07:36.13 | revelater | cute |
| 07:36.16 | streuner_ | bonjour jethro |
| 07:36.26 | revelater | silvouse plait |
| 07:36.33 | revelater | spelling? |
| 07:36.37 | revelater | please |
| 07:36.39 | drag_sid | I don't know then. Many ftp sites have 2-3 older versions.. I think.. but your best bet would be to check out official debian websites and find if they have a archive section or something like that.. that's all I can think of right now. :( |
| 07:36.47 | simonrvn | s'il vous plait (circonflex on the last a) |
| 07:36.57 | tarzeau | simonrvn: wrong |
| 07:37.11 | tarzeau | simonrvn: a ^ on the last i |
| 07:37.13 | revelater | mi caro choko con la baca de my hermana |
| 07:37.18 | simonrvn | if you're gonna whine about my swaercing i'll whine about *your* abuse of language |
| 07:37.23 | revelater | the car crashed into my sisters cow |
| 07:37.28 | simonrvn | tarzeau: yeh, right. thanks |
| 07:37.41 | tarzeau | streuner_: it's enough to know a few verbs and a few words, to have fun with french women |
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| 07:37.56 | jm_ | exobyte: uhm you don't know his IP? |
| 07:38.07 | revelater | tarzeau: why would you want to have fun with french women? |
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| 07:38.13 | jethro | hi streuner_ , simonrvn :) |
| 07:38.14 | exobyte | jm_: there's a 95% chance I do |
| 07:38.30 | tarzeau | revelater: give them my phonenumber, and send them to me |
| 07:38.30 | exobyte | jm_: but I had to check the samba logs for a guess |
| 07:38.46 | streuner_ | tarzeau: there are many women around the world who speak different languages and you can have fun with them too... ;-) |
| 07:38.58 | revelater | tarzeau: you need to go to korea man, you will never even look at another women |
| 07:39.08 | TinoW | bblo |
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| 07:39.22 | tarzeau | revelater: i really hate those slit eyes |
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| 07:39.25 | tarzeau | revelater: and flat faces |
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| 07:39.39 | tarzeau | revelater: i like european, long haired, blondes |
| 07:39.46 | revelater | tarzeau: their are some korean women that would surprise even you i bet |
| 07:39.49 | tarzeau | revelater: preferably with grey/blueish eyes |
| 07:39.56 | tarzeau | revelater: no they won't |
| 07:39.58 | revelater | blond is hard to come by though |
| 07:40.06 | streuner_ | tarzeau: you saw Miss Universum? |
| 07:40.16 | revelater | g2g |
| 07:40.19 | streuner_ | tarzeau: some day i have to go to .au ;-) |
| 07:40.30 | simonrvn | figures... those beauty contests are sexist |
| 07:40.41 | tarzeau | streuner_: you've seen fiona hefti? |
| 07:40.44 | tarzeau | streuner_: that's what i like |
| 07:40.49 | streuner_ | no |
| 07:41.26 | jkaf | look, this is debian, not beauty contest! |
| 07:41.26 | tarzeau | streuner_: http://photo.sohu.com/20041126/Img223199972.jpg |
| 07:41.50 | tarzeau | jkaf: thank you honey, we almost forgot |
| 07:42.12 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 07:42.15 | jkaf | honey my foot, i'll cut off yr dick! |
| 07:42.18 | takatumi | !greetings |
| 07:42.19 | dpkg | hello, takatumi |
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| 07:42.31 | tarzeau | streuner_: see what happens, if you're nice? |
| 07:42.41 | streuner_ | tarzeau: haha |
| 07:42.43 | tarzeau | jkaf: i'm already circumsized |
| 07:43.03 | jkaf | i'll cut off the remaining stump. |
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| 07:43.13 | simonrvn | ... |
| 07:43.15 | takatumi | !slice jkaf |
| 07:43.22 | takatumi | gah. |
| 07:43.34 | d03boy | ..... |
| 07:43.47 | takatumi | sussudio: bot foo. |
| 07:44.01 | takatumi | s/foo/-fu |
| 07:44.21 | nullvoid | hi sorry if I am asking again |
| 07:44.39 | nullvoid | how can I view microsoft snapshot file using linux? |
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| 07:45.04 | simonrvn | nullvoid: what's the 'file' command say about it? did you look at it with an editor? |
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| 07:45.16 | streuner_ | Whats a M$ snapshot file? |
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| 07:45.48 | cafuego | streuner_: A proprietary unsupported format. |
| 07:45.51 | nullvoid | streuner: yes |
| 07:46.04 | cafuego | nullvoid: strings <filename> | less |
| 07:46.08 | unco | has anyone here used 2.4.x with an Adaptec AIC-7902W SCSI controller running hostraid? |
| 07:46.48 | jkaf | anyone here uses Genius Wizardpen 5x4 writing tablet? |
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| 07:46.51 | cafuego | nullvoid: Though most likely the answer to your uestion is: Purchase Windows and MS Office to open that file. |
| 07:47.02 | nullvoid | cafuego: I got rubbish |
| 07:47.10 | rituraj | dpkg hi |
| 07:47.10 | dpkg | hello, rituraj |
| 07:47.26 | cafuego | nullvoid: yeah, just give up. |
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| 07:47.42 | nullvoid | cafuego: too bad |
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| 07:48.07 | cafuego | Snapshot viewer is an MS Access tool; you'll need either the viewer or msaccess. |
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| 07:48.16 | nullvoid | any ocr app in linux? |
| 07:48.22 | simonrvn | sure |
| 07:48.22 | cafuego | nullvoid: If you email me the file I might be able to export the data to CSV or something |
| 07:48.24 | unco | I'm using a dell cd and when I try and compile a kernel with the exact same apparently .config it just doesn't work - doens't even load the correct detection for the SCSI drives at boot |
| 07:48.45 | nullvoid | cafuego: what's your email add? |
| 07:49.01 | cafuego | nullvoid@cafuego.net |
| 07:49.04 | simonrvn | unco: lspci is your best friend |
| 07:49.11 | takatumi | and after converting to csv, what's a similar tool to view/filter the info? |
| 07:49.22 | unco | simonrvn : say what? |
| 07:49.35 | cafuego | takatumi: openoffice/import into mysql/pgsql/whatever |
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| 07:50.49 | takatumi | cafuego: will try, how long is the learning curve for mysql/pgsql? need some numbers for the day after. |
| 07:51.09 | cafuego | takatumi: SQL is SQL |
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| 07:51.23 | drag_sid | unless it's mysql |
| 07:51.30 | exobyte | jm_: still home? |
| 07:51.44 | takatumi | cafuego: haven't tried anything in it yet. |
| 07:52.13 | cafuego | takatumi: if you use phpmyadmin, you can point & click via a web interface. trivially easy. |
| 07:52.51 | takatumi | I alsa had a dicom file, didn't know there was something already packaged for debian. haven't ever heard of this file type being mentioned anywhere. |
| 07:53.02 | unco | simonrvn : how does lspci help? |
| 07:53.06 | takatumi | cafuego: cool, cheers. |
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| 07:53.21 | unco | it's an onboard scsi controller |
| 07:53.26 | exobyte | Will this block stuff to and from the listed ip? iptables -A FORWARD --src-range 10.0.254.254-10.0.254.254 -j REJECT |
| 07:53.54 | jm_ | exobyte: no, I am at work :) |
| 07:54.09 | exobyte | jm_: oh- well, see above message |
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| 07:54.20 | exobyte | please |
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| 07:54.56 | jm_ | exobyte: --src-range? |
| 07:55.32 | jm_ | exobyte: use -s 10.0.254.254 |
| 07:55.51 | exobyte | jm_: isn't that valid? I'm a little lazy, though. |
| 07:55.51 | exobyte | thx |
| 07:56.07 | jm_ | exobyte: and -A might be wrong, because other rules might match it first, so try -I 1 instead of -A |
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| 07:56.49 | exobyte | jm_: ah. I'm usually in bsd land, so I'm trying to equate all this to pf |
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| 07:57.27 | fnx | what's the command to close the X server without shutting down the pc? |
| 07:57.29 | exobyte | jm_: and changing that to -D will remove it? |
| 07:57.49 | takatumi | hmm, where is the import option in ooffice? |
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| 07:58.04 | exobyte | fnx: the lazy way is to do ps -ax, find the server, and use kill |
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| 07:58.37 | takatumi | fnx: or killall *dm |
| 07:58.48 | rage | fnx: if you're running a login manager such as gdm/kdm then /etc/init.d/gdm|kdm stop |
| 07:59.05 | xophEr | If I clone an installation to another hdd, does it matter if the filesystems differ? eg. ext3 on this hdd and reiserfs on the other. |
| 07:59.22 | jm_ | exobyte: yes |
| 07:59.28 | rage | xophEr: you'll need to edit the fstab I think |
| 07:59.36 | fnx | thanks rage |
| 07:59.43 | xophEr | Yes, but everything else will work fine? |
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| 07:59.50 | rage | dont see why not :-) |
| 07:59.55 | xophEr | allright :) thanks |
| 08:00.05 | exobyte | jm_: I need to check the dhcp logs too |
| 08:00.09 | PeTeRB | xophEr: Depends on how you do it. |
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| 08:00.37 | xophEr | PeTeRB, hmm, and what would be the preferable way then? |
| 08:01.10 | PeTeRB | xophEr: If you want a different fs, I think cp would be right. |
| 08:01.39 | rage | indeed :-), just remember to set up your bootloader correctly as well :-) |
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| 08:01.48 | xophEr | yeah :) thanks a lot |
| 08:02.35 | exobyte | jm_: would also doing that command with -d instead of -s be a good idea to block stuff into him from the internet? |
| 08:02.36 | mort | tarzeau: did my cablemodem go crazy again yesterday or was it just to much people on the server |
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| 08:03.09 | tarzeau | mort: i guess it was too much people, and not enough upstream bandwith |
| 08:03.16 | rage | I really must read up on the various filesystems supported by Debian, see which is best for me. |
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| 08:03.19 | tarzeau | mort: so we moved to 100mbit again, and played till 2 am :) |
| 08:03.34 | tarzeau | mort: those other dragons, really are addicted |
| 08:04.10 | mort | tarzeau: yay! we're playing it here right now |
| 08:04.18 | tarzeau | mort: where are you? |
| 08:04.26 | tarzeau | mort: ah berne |
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| 08:04.33 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: I RTFM'ed in the doc directory, and found the ssh approach I was using in there :D |
| 08:04.38 | mort | tarzeau: yeah, why? |
| 08:04.46 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: so cool |
| 08:04.56 | PeTeRB | And sorry, can't play today, my ssh account has the slows today :| |
| 08:04.56 | tarzeau | mort: just curious |
| 08:05.05 | PeTeRB | 700ms ping to google isn't good. |
| 08:05.18 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: ouf, try traceroute www.superonline.com.tr |
| 08:05.31 | jm_ | exobyte: well it's pointless if you already have it blocking based on source IP |
| 08:05.38 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: you can be glad to have 700ms in turkey :) |
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| 08:06.30 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: My ssh account is in SC, and it seems it's ISP is slow :| |
| 08:07.04 | exobyte | jm_: uh oh.. it worked on a test host, but removing it didn't |
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| 08:09.25 | mort | tarzeau: we'll see you sometime again at lugbe? |
| 08:09.38 | jm_ | exobyte: how did you remove it? |
| 08:09.52 | exobyte | jm_: 1 sec, I'm reading the help a little |
| 08:09.57 | tarzeau | mort: i'm not in berne anymore, but do you have some interesting talk someday? actually |
| 08:10.08 | jm_ | exobyte: it's -D chain rulename or -D chain rulespec |
| 08:10.14 | jm_ | rulename=rulenumber |
| 08:10.22 | tarzeau | mort: we go grilling, chilling, playing guitar and swimming at the hallwylersee at hot weekends, why don't you guys join? |
| 08:10.32 | tarzeau | mort: at meisterschwanden |
| 08:10.56 | [bathat] | does anyone know where debian saves the current setup when box is checked on logout |
| 08:10.57 | [bathat] | ? |
| 08:11.07 | tarzeau | mort: it's really fun: http://phuturetech.info/pictures/ieatn00bs.jpg |
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| 08:11.18 | exobyte | jm_: oh, heh, I forgot the chain part |
| 08:11.31 | mort | tarzeau: today is something about php, don't know exactly what. I'll tell you if something nice is coming. |
| 08:11.48 | mort | tarzeau: we don't join you guys, because we don't know :-) |
| 08:11.53 | exobyte | jm_: sweet. it works. too bad he hasn't logged off yet |
| 08:11.55 | tarzeau | mort: yeah, since i have a ga, it's easy (just time killer) |
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| 08:12.14 | tarzeau | mort: ok, i'll let you know. just hang on #linux.ch as we do this very spontaniousliy |
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| 08:12.26 | tarzeau | mort: are lugbe guys not on irc somewhere? |
| 08:12.29 | exobyte | jm_: or spammed me, for that matter |
| 08:12.34 | [bathat] | it obviously saves it to a file somewhere |
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| 08:13.11 | mort | tarzeau: yes! this guy on the picture is crazy :-) I own a GA, too. |
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| 08:13.37 | mort | tarzeau: we're on irc.lugs.ch #lugbe, but it's just like 4 people, most of us seem to hate irc... |
| 08:14.26 | [bathat] | sorry to prod but... anyone? |
| 08:14.52 | spdf | [bathat], the Save Session box? |
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| 08:15.12 | [bathat] | yes, when logging out |
| 08:15.13 | spdf | [bathat], I'd think it would be somewhere in ~ |
| 08:15.19 | [bathat] | ah ok |
| 08:15.21 | [bathat] | i would too |
| 08:15.31 | [bathat] | thanks, i'll look around |
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| 08:17.34 | duncf | @ops erika spambot |
| 08:17.34 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: erika spambot |
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| 08:17.45 | duncf | also ASLI_ |
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| 08:18.54 | exobyte | jm_: thx. you fully answered my question and I learnd something. it's bedtime, I think |
| 08:19.05 | jm_ | exobyte: no worries |
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| 08:19.42 | mynullvoid | cafuego: did you get the mail |
| 08:19.44 | exobyte | jm_: I think I got the right ip, too. I only have his hardware address once in the dhcp leases |
| 08:19.59 | jm_ | exobyte: run arp -a, you'll see it there as well |
| 08:20.09 | WhiteNinja | hello... want to finetune xfce4-panel.. for example... starting xterm as su - with mc loaded... I tried "su - & pw = password & mc".. but only the terminal popped up asking for the pw.. any hints? |
| 08:20.26 | nomeata | Hi. How would I do that: I want to backup data from server A on my friend's server B. The backup must me bandwidth-friendly (like rsync), but a compromise of server B must not jeopardize server A's data. any ideas? |
| 08:20.28 | takatumi | !jm++ |
| 08:20.34 | takatumi | fwiw. |
| 08:20.38 | takatumi | gah |
| 08:20.51 | takatumi | !jm_ ++ |
| 08:20.56 | jm_ | WhiteNinja: you can't do it like that, but you can use sudo for example, or use something like enscript |
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| 08:21.04 | jm_ | takatumi: it has been disabled long ago I think, doesn't really work |
| 08:21.10 | nomeata | And a related question: Is there a crypto fs that encrypts on a per-file-base, making it possible to mount the filesystem and have all the files, but without a way to read their contents? |
| 08:21.29 | exobyte | jm_: thx. goodnight |
| 08:21.30 | takatumi | how to make <tab> work after typing the !? |
| 08:21.38 | rocky23 | hello all, i wonder if anyone wouldnt mind me picking there brains about some problems im having with ip route and ip alliasing :) if i ask the questiosn in general here everyones going to get lost :) |
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| 08:21.41 | WhiteNinja | what would be the syntax at console then? |
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| 08:21.45 | amorphix | greetings |
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| 08:21.56 | amorphix | in Delhi its 44oC today |
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| 08:22.33 | amorphix | hi peterb |
| 08:22.42 | takatumi | amorphix: same here in Kuwait. I am an Indian though. |
| 08:22.46 | PeTeRB | Hello |
| 08:22.48 | amorphix | phew |
| 08:23.07 | amorphix | hehe |
| 08:23.27 | takatumi | PeTeRB: gah, don't send me there, an hour wasted. |
| 08:23.31 | amorphix | anyone know about RAIDs? |
| 08:23.35 | amorphix | (soft) |
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| 08:24.07 | amorphix | im having trouble adding 2 additional drives into my array |
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| 08:24.26 | amorphix | sometime told me it couldnt be done once a raid is active, is that true? |
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| 08:25.19 | simonrvn | go read the raid howto. the second one |
| 08:25.26 | amorphix | ive read it |
| 08:25.32 | simonrvn | www.tldp.org |
| 08:25.34 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: /me goes read. i like the funny,5 posts |
| 08:25.39 | simonrvn | then read it again |
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| 08:26.17 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Comment #12701012 is a must. |
| 08:26.33 | Solet-deb | what is the syntax with dpkg -L to make it search for all packages installed that match a string carrying a wildcard? |
| 08:27.02 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: /me trying to figure where to post some GNUstep urls |
| 08:27.31 | rage | Gah, does anyone here remember how to remove EDO RAM from their slots? |
| 08:27.45 | tarzeau | rage: with a pen remove the holders |
| 08:27.57 | tarzeau | rage: and don't cut your finger, while trying to move the ram out |
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| 08:28.06 | takatumi | tarzeau: I remember reading one of you GNUstep post a while a back on /. forgot howto now? |
| 08:28.23 | takatumi | s/post/posts |
| 08:28.24 | caphuso | Solet-deb: the easiest way is probably "cd /var/lib/dpkg/info; cat *foo*.list | pager" |
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| 08:28.29 | PeTeRB | rage: IIRC you have to tilt them to the side |
| 08:28.34 | takatumi | s/you/your |
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| 08:28.45 | takatumi | any more? |
| 08:28.45 | rage | yup, worried about snapping them |
| 08:29.06 | PeTeRB | rage: I haven't broken mine :P |
| 08:29.48 | deadcat | woody rc6 out today and sarge out on monday (= |
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| 08:30.05 | tarzeau | takatumi: nope, but a new gnustep release is due |
| 08:30.14 | tarzeau | takatumi: and then also a new gnustep live cd DELUXE |
| 08:30.34 | tarzeau | takatumi: with the bestest games. and more hacker tools |
| 08:30.37 | simonrvn | gnustep pimp ;p |
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| 08:30.49 | takatumi | tarzeau: are you putting all this together? what is your involvement in GNUstep? |
| 08:30.50 | Solet-deb | hey why does the topic say kde 3.4 isnt packaged yet.... http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0 |
| 08:30.54 | Solet-deb | its packaged... |
| 08:31.04 | tarzeau | takatumi: i make the http://livecd.gnustep.org |
| 08:31.09 | rocky23 | hello all, i wonder if anyone wouldnt mind me picking there brains about some problems im having with ip route and ip alliasing :) if i ask the questions in general here in the chan everyones going to get lost :) |
| 08:31.13 | tarzeau | takatumi: and some packages, www.linuks.mine.nu/debian/ :) |
| 08:31.22 | PeTeRB | Solet-deb: That's experimental |
| 08:31.31 | rage | yay ram removed |
| 08:31.37 | takatumi | tarzeau: one man army eh? |
| 08:31.40 | tarzeau | takatumi: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=gurkan@linuks.mine.nu |
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| 08:32.10 | PeTeRB | rage: Putting them back is a bit harder. |
| 08:32.11 | paulswm | Morning, tarzeau, yup, still working'! |
| 08:32.19 | tarzeau | paulswm: workaholic! |
| 08:32.33 | tarzeau | paulswm: i wonder if there's sexy women at your office that keeps you from going home |
| 08:32.55 | takatumi | tarzeau: fuck, you are maintaining 58 packages? |
| 08:32.57 | rAz__ | i've got problm with parport module compiling... does anyone knows if i have to add another module to make work parport ? thx |
| 08:33.13 | tarzeau | takatumi: yeh? |
| 08:33.13 | paulswm | tarzeau: I'm working from home! |
| 08:33.28 | PeTeRB | rAz__: How about parport_pc |
| 08:33.28 | yalu_ | apt-get --ignore-missing --no-download upgrade <<-- I use this command and apt *still* wants to download a lot pf packages! anyone a clue why apt ain't listening to me? :) |
| 08:33.34 | tarzeau | takatumi: don't forget the non-free one |
| 08:34.22 | rAz__ | PeTeRB, modprobe parport : module not found |
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| 08:34.40 | rAz__ | mh... wtf. i just compil it as module |
| 08:34.43 | takatumi | tarzeau: and a livecd + ttfgentium + pr0nget + an assortment of other games, tools etc. where do you find the time? |
| 08:34.43 | Solet-deb | any of his 58 have anything to do with gnome's multihead support? if so let me know... i need to stalk his ass till a few things get fixed :) |
| 08:34.51 | PeTeRB | rAz__: Did you boot from the new kernel? |
| 08:34.57 | PeTeRB | s/from/with/ |
| 08:34.58 | rAz__ | yes mate. |
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| 08:35.28 | paulswm | tarzeau: Anyway, good to see you, have a great day! |
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| 08:35.33 | PeTeRB | rAz__: modprobe -l parport |
| 08:35.35 | takatumi | tarzeau: and you are here bubbling monsters, how about a special level quickie? |
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| 08:36.03 | rAz__ | PeTeRB, no effect |
| 08:36.09 | rAz__ | lsmod is empty of parport |
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| 08:36.28 | rage | PeTeRB: I see what you mean, I'm removing the PSU to make enough room to slide them in :-) |
| 08:36.44 | takatumi | my desktop freezes often, need to reset it. bad RAM most probably. |
| 08:37.14 | PeTeRB | rAz__: lsmod lists loaded modules |
| 08:37.19 | rAz__ | yep |
| 08:37.24 | Solet-deb | ~sarge-ttl |
| 08:37.25 | Solet | Sarge is expected to be released in: 3days 20hrs 17mins 49secs |
| 08:37.58 | PeTeRB | rAz__: grep PARPORT /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 08:38.53 | takatumi | and how many hours to FC 4? will we beat 'em? |
| 08:39.14 | Solet-deb | whens fc4 comming out? |
| 08:39.16 | rAz__ | ah i dont have parport :| is there any module such as i2o_parport ? or i2c_parport to add more ? |
| 08:39.37 | PeTeRB | rage: I've had my PC not boot because one stick wasn't seated good. Took a while to figure it out. |
| 08:39.51 | rAz__ | feck... i reboot to the base kernel. brb |
| 08:40.13 | rage | PeTeRB: yup :-) worse yet, I dont even know if any of this hardware works |
| 08:40.15 | Solet-deb | PeTeRB: i've had my pc not boot because one stick was on fire :/ that was 'fun' :( |
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| 08:40.46 | tarzeau | takatumi: no more girlfriend |
| 08:40.51 | Solet-deb | takatumi: when does fedoras release come out? |
| 08:40.57 | tarzeau | takatumi: not when i'm at work |
| 08:41.08 | tarzeau | paulswm: same to you. thanks |
| 08:41.10 | amorphix | soft RAID-5 |
| 08:41.14 | tarzeau | Solet-deb: who cares? |
| 08:41.29 | Solet-deb | takatumi: was talking about if sarge will beat fc4 |
| 08:41.29 | amorphix | are INCREDIBLY resilient, ive not been able to break mine and tried MANY ways |
| 08:41.30 | PeTeRB | Hmm, it should be my computer's 9th birthday around now. |
| 08:41.52 | Solet-deb | PeTeRB: museum material that it is |
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| 08:42.13 | PeTeRB | Solet-deb: I should get a job in summer :| |
| 08:42.16 | rage | Doesnt matter if Sarge beats Fedora C4 in release time, Debian will still be far more apt. |
| 08:42.21 | rage | :-) |
| 08:42.43 | Zambba | aargh, i cant get any sound out of my computer |
| 08:42.48 | Solet-deb | yeah but beating fc4 could still do wonders for debian... |
| 08:43.09 | Solet-deb | other wise to the untrained eye debian looks like a copy cat |
| 08:43.27 | Solet-deb | zambba: put a 120 mm case fan in.... |
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| 08:43.35 | Solet-deb | that'll get sound out of your computer :P |
| 08:43.42 | amorphix | haha |
| 08:43.44 | Zambba | I already have one |
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| 08:43.51 | rage | I have a 120mm fan, quiet as anything :-) |
| 08:43.52 | amorphix | Solet-deb :D |
| 08:43.53 | Zambba | But I'd like to get something.. music.. |
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| 08:44.06 | Solet-deb | lol be more specific :P |
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| 08:44.13 | ozzloy | how do you change the default text editor to vi? i have a feeling it's a setting in a text file somewhere, can't find it |
| 08:44.16 | PeTeRB | Zambba: What kernel? |
| 08:44.20 | Solet-deb | ummm.... wtf is it called starts with an a |
| 08:44.31 | Solet-deb | 4 letters.... magical audio driver.... |
| 08:44.34 | Zambba | PeTeRB: 2.6.8 |
| 08:44.37 | Zambba | And it used to work |
| 08:44.44 | PeTeRB | Zambba: Mixer settings? |
| 08:44.49 | Zambba | Mixer settings are right |
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| 08:45.01 | erps | Ok.. exim seems to be working, but if I specy more than two addresses for the mail to be sent to it tosses back: 550 relay not permitted |
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| 08:45.19 | erps | specy=specify |
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| 08:45.23 | ozzloy | Solet, alsa? |
| 08:45.31 | ozzloy | Solet-deb, alsa? |
| 08:45.34 | Solet-deb | ozzloy: right click your text file click properties, and select open with then vi |
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| 08:45.38 | Solet-deb | yeah alsa |
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| 08:46.06 | PeTeRB | ozzloy: man update-alternatives |
| 08:46.10 | Solet-deb | ozzloy: then it will open all files of that type with vi by default from then on |
| 08:46.15 | Empty | I seem to have no /dev/wlan0 with ndiswrapper... is it somewhere else? |
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| 08:46.39 | Solet-deb | empty: what card? |
| 08:46.53 | ozzloy | Solet-deb, when i set a cronjob, it opens with nano, will this make it open with vi? |
| 08:47.07 | PeTeRB | ozzloy: man update-alternatives |
| 08:47.09 | Empty | Solet-deb, *ptui* ACX 111 |
| 08:47.16 | ozzloy | PeTeRB, will do |
| 08:47.19 | Solet-deb | ummm |
| 08:47.23 | Solet-deb | i think... |
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| 08:47.43 | Solet-deb | google "house of craig" acx100 |
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| 08:47.51 | PeTeRB | Empty: Check dmesg for any hints |
| 08:47.54 | Solet-deb | i think that driver works for acx111 as well |
| 08:47.58 | Empty | Solet that solution sucks mightily and ndiswrapper can do it |
| 08:48.00 | Solet-deb | i got my acx100 working using his scripts |
| 08:48.06 | ozzloy | thanks Solet-deb and PeTeRB |
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| 08:48.26 | Solet-deb | empty: house of craig has a script that brings it right up and right down |
| 08:48.32 | Solet-deb | took me 15 minutes to install |
| 08:48.36 | Solet-deb | and its worked ever since |
| 08:48.49 | jethro | !irritate me |
| 08:48.50 | dpkg | jethro: hi every1 where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol lol |
| 08:48.58 | Empty | PeTeRB, many thanks |
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| 08:49.08 | Solet-deb | empty: he walks you through step by step and troubleshoots any possible error |
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| 08:49.18 | Empty | Solet I tried those instructions several times in various permutations |
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| 08:49.32 | rAz__ | re |
| 08:49.35 | rAz__ | i have parport of installed here. |
| 08:49.37 | Empty | if they are the SF acx kernel module instructions |
| 08:49.53 | Solet-deb | various permutations? what the fuck... just do exactly what he tells you and it WILL work, no variance from his script |
| 08:50.08 | takatumi | !joint me |
| 08:50.26 | rAz__ | the print doesnt work. |
| 08:50.27 | SSuffield | hi, I have the following problem with suse and i wonder how debian deploys the NPTL. In SuSE (AMD64) following libraries are provided |
| 08:50.32 | SSuffield | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:50.41 | Celiun | mission successful, finally managed to install Debian with xserver and gnome |
| 08:50.43 | Solet-deb | empty you fucking dolt listen: craig has written an install script for the sf driver, it works, he walks you through, its not the same as the sf readme file |
| 08:50.45 | SSuffield | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.45 | jethro | dpkg: ganjasmite $1 is <action> hits $1 with the bong |
| 08:50.52 | SSuffield | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.53 | jethro | fuck |
| 08:50.58 | jethro | someone idi it already |
| 08:51.08 | rAz__ | how to configure a hp 895 to make it rulz ? |
| 08:51.10 | Celiun | now I just need to get everything else working |
| 08:51.18 | SSuffield | the question is: in that case is not clear which library will be used when building a statically linked executable |
| 08:51.25 | SSuffield | does debian has this mess |
| 08:51.27 | SSuffield | ? |
| 08:51.27 | takatumi | !factinfo ganjasmite |
| 08:51.27 | dpkg | takatumi: there's no such factoid as ganjasmite |
| 08:51.32 | jethro | that was me :D |
| 08:51.39 | jethro | !factinfo cmd: ganjasmite (.*?) |
| 08:51.39 | dpkg | CMD: ganjasmite (.*?) -- created by jethro <~hunter@saje3.docisland.org> 1d 20h 19m 37s ago. |
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| 08:51.47 | Empty | Solet-deb, *you* listen, I tried the houseofcraig shit and it did not work, now I am playing with ndiswrapper since I am likely getting a new laptop with integrated wifi soon anyway and I'd like to become familiar with it |
| 08:51.49 | jethro | !lart me for my bad memory |
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| 08:51.57 | takatumi | jethro: you must be perpetually high. |
| 08:52.02 | jethro | takatumi: hah |
| 08:52.13 | jethro | dpkg: takatumi++ |
| 08:52.21 | prodigy | hi all |
| 08:52.35 | takatumi | jethro: to forget a factoid that is less that 48 hours old. exspecially if you created it. :) |
| 08:52.37 | PeTeRB | Oooh, K-lines :P |
| 08:52.43 | prodigy | i have problems with apache |
| 08:52.49 | Solet-deb | empty: so which story is it, did you do the source forge instructions or craigs instructions? cause if you didn craigs and it didnt work you fucked up |
| 08:52.52 | prodigy | who can help me ? |
| 08:52.53 | jethro | prodigy: /msg dpkg sicco |
| 08:52.54 | PeTeRB | prodigy: This is #debian |
| 08:53.07 | prodigy | im using debian, |
| 08:53.26 | rAz__ | when i try to launch a printing via cupsys i ve got this message : Erreur: |
| 08:53.27 | rAz__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.35 | jethro | prodigy: please , /msg dpkg sicco, learn how to ask smart questions, and ask again |
| 08:53.36 | prodigy | yesterday i made an apgrade to my debian server. |
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| 08:53.41 | Empty | I have done both, although my HoC attempt was a few months back, when he was advocating the ACX_1xx kernel module. |
| 08:53.49 | prodigy | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.56 | jethro | prodigy: remove the leading space |
| 08:54.11 | prodigy | sorry |
| 08:54.15 | Empty | I even did it the Debian way with a custom kernel deb and tried with a vanilla kernel.org kernel |
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| 08:55.26 | PeTeRB | Empty: So did you find what device is it or no? |
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| 08:55.40 | nomed^ | ops |
| 08:55.51 | Solet-deb | empty: craig's manual has changed... the acx111 was updated |
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| 08:56.05 | amorphix | how can i check what pci cards are in my sys? |
| 08:56.13 | PeTeRB | amorphix: lspci |
| 08:56.16 | amorphix | thanks Pete |
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| 08:56.50 | Solet-deb | empty: you have to use the file versions he tells you to even tho they arent the newest ones.... some of the new ones break his start_net and stop_net scripts |
| 08:56.54 | bob2 | /proc/pci is deprecated nowadays |
| 08:57.09 | diblo | hehe /sys |
| 08:57.40 | rAz__ | the lpr log tell me this : Jun 2 10:40:13 localhost Xprt_64: Xprint server pid=3372 done, exitcode=0. Jun 2 10:41:54 localhost Xprt_64: No matching visual for __GLcontextMode with visual class = 0 (32775), nplanes = 8 |
| 08:57.46 | rAz__ | what's the problm ? :/ |
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| 08:58.21 | tarzeau | amorphix: can you help me collect rom images? |
| 08:58.28 | tarzeau | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ree/ |
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| 08:58.52 | Empty | PeTeRB, Nope but I found some fun ndiswrapper errors :) |
| 08:59.01 | amorphix | tareau: sure, what do i do? |
| 08:59.02 | PeTeRB | Empty: Heh |
| 08:59.20 | tarzeau | amorphix: download the tool, check the source, run it as root, send me the *.rom files except F0000 |
| 08:59.28 | Empty | Solet, he has updated since my last runin I will try this method |
| 08:59.29 | amorphix | ok |
| 08:59.58 | Solet-deb | empty: just make sure you follow it exactly... it took me 2 tries cause i deviated a little... |
| 09:00.27 | Solet-deb | http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx100_howto.php |
| 09:00.35 | Solet-deb | there's his link (found it for you) |
| 09:01.41 | Solet-deb | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.46 | nomed^ | i'll try today again ... |
| 09:01.52 | Xnix | is there a way to have a bootsplash image during bootup with debian using debian kernels (i.e not compiling my own) |
| 09:01.58 | nomed^ | do you know the boot cmdline to don't umount the initrd? |
| 09:02.17 | jethro | !bootsplash |
| 09:02.17 | dpkg | i heard bootsplash is http://www.bootsplash.org/ && http://www.bootsplash.de (Themes and updates and debian packages) see also gensplash, or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdeskhks/chapter/hack08.pdf |
| 09:03.23 | Xnix | thanks jethro...i did an apt-cache search for bootsplash a little while ago and didnt get anything |
| 09:04.26 | tarzeau | we know what release code names were used. do we have alist which are still free ? |
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| 09:04.58 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Look at IMDB? :D |
| 09:05.43 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: It made c0000.rom and f0000.rom. Which do you need? |
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| 09:05.50 | PeTeRB | It being 'ree' |
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| 09:05.52 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: c0000.rom |
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| 09:06.01 | Wanderer- | hello |
| 09:06.11 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: run strings or file on them for some fun |
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| 09:06.24 | d03boy | does anyone know of any good video editing programs for linux? |
| 09:06.53 | Wanderer- | if I have debian ( woody ) do I have to get the new cds and have a new clean install if i want sarge ? |
| 09:07.09 | Empty | Wanderer no |
| 09:07.18 | tarzeau | Wanderer-: no |
| 09:07.27 | hackeron | d03boy: http://itstar.co.uk/hackeron/index.php/Linux_or_Windows_-_A_Practical_Comparison#Audio.2FVideo_Editing |
| 09:07.28 | Xnix | d03boy, kdenlive |
| 09:07.29 | Empty | !woody->sarge |
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| 09:07.37 | Wanderer- | ? |
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| 09:07.45 | tarzeau | Wanderer-: this is not windows |
| 09:07.51 | Empty | ! woody->sarge |
| 09:07.52 | dpkg | hmm... woody->sarge is Then "apt-get install aptitude". Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" or "stable" to "sarge". Then, "aptitude update" and "aptitude dist-upgrade". consider installing hotplug and/or discover1 if you're not confident with linux hardware management. see <sarge release notes> |
| 09:07.53 | tarzeau | with a major problem, where a new install solves problems |
| 09:07.56 | Empty | there we go |
| 09:08.01 | d03boy | excellent, thanks |
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| 09:08.06 | tarzeau | and a reboot, minor ones |
| 09:08.18 | Wanderer- | I see |
| 09:08.22 | Xnix | d03boy, theres another one thats pretty professional |
| 09:08.26 | tarzeau | who was Hannah in Toy Story? |
| 09:08.27 | Xnix | but i cant think of the name or find it right now |
| 09:08.28 | Wanderer- | I'm thinking of migrating to linux |
| 09:08.35 | rAz__ | i need help to make rulz my printer plz. thx =) |
| 09:08.37 | Empty | tarzeau, the baby IIRC |
| 09:08.38 | tarzeau | and Mrs. Davis? |
| 09:08.39 | d03boy | ok, i'll look around for it |
| 09:08.48 | Wanderer- | though I only have debian 3.0 here and is hesitant to install it |
| 09:08.51 | rAz__ | i think it well setup. but it doesnt work. |
| 09:09.04 | Empty | Wanderer, do you have a highspeed connection? |
| 09:09.08 | Wanderer- | I'm thinking of reinstalling when june 6 comes |
| 09:09.12 | Wanderer- | YUP |
| 09:09.18 | jm_ | optimist ;) |
| 09:09.20 | Empty | Go download the debian-installer |
| 09:09.23 | Empty | !d-i |
| 09:09.23 | dpkg | it has been said that d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 09:09.51 | Xnix | d03boy, theres cinelerra |
| 09:09.51 | Empty | that will make things pretty easy if you are a newbie... It's best to have another box up and running for google etc too |
| 09:10.10 | Xnix | d03boy, http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3 |
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| 09:10.18 | Wanderer- | what book should you guys recommend for a windows guy looking forward to migrate to Linux? |
| 09:10.25 | Empty | Wanderer, the netinst image just installs what you need to get a basic systtem up, the rest is download-as-you-need-it |
| 09:10.28 | tarzeau | Wanderer-: not one specific to a distribution |
| 09:10.29 | bob2 | Wanderer-: I hear "linux in a nutshell" from o'reilly is quite good |
| 09:10.37 | Wanderer- | I see |
| 09:10.42 | bob2 | Wanderer-: not debian-specific, but a general "this is how linux works" sorta deal |
| 09:10.50 | tarzeau | Wanderer-: learn awk, sed and your favourite shell |
| 09:10.53 | Empty | Wanderer, Running Linux by O'Reilly ain't half bad |
| 09:10.58 | d03boy | excellent |
| 09:10.59 | Wanderer- | ok ok |
| 09:11.02 | Wanderer- | thanks guys |
| 09:11.18 | Empty | hehe another guy scared by the helpfulness of #debian |
| 09:11.26 | Wanderer- | good to see such a responsive and enthusiastic channel a while |
| 09:11.49 | Wanderer- | excuse my english though, not my mother tongue |
| 09:11.50 | RichiH | if anyone gets spammed with onjoin stuff, please /msg me |
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| 09:12.26 | WhiteNinja | wanderer... are u german? guessing from the name |
| 09:12.31 | PeTeRB | RichiH: Chanserv doesn't count, right? |
| 09:12.43 | RichiH | PeTeRB: nope :p |
| 09:12.46 | Wanderer- | hehe |
| 09:12.49 | Wanderer- | Filipino |
| 09:13.09 | js_ | is there a good util that can benchmark my filesystem/hdd for speed? |
| 09:13.12 | Wanderer- | land of the pygmy from your history classes |
| 09:13.34 | PeTeRB | js_: hdparm |
| 09:13.39 | tarzeau | RichiH: don't kick me, i just asking if they play bub-n-bros.sf.net with me |
| 09:13.44 | WhiteNinja | ok.. thx.. don't wanted to bother you :-) |
| 09:13.58 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Sent. |
| 09:14.02 | Wanderer- | :) |
| 09:14.32 | RichiH | tarzeau: heh |
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| 09:14.48 | RichiH | tarzeau: if you whip up a server that has only special levels, i might join |
| 09:14.57 | Xnix | where is the file that stores the information printed each time a user logs in (the default stuff is "debian gnu/linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY yadda yadda") |
| 09:15.13 | Empty | Xnix 'man motd' |
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| 09:15.16 | tarzeau | RichiH: you know the other week in #gnustep we had two nasty guys from efnet or so that talked crap (annoying)... |
| 09:15.19 | yalu_ | The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 09:15.23 | Xnix | Empty, thank ya :D |
| 09:15.23 | yalu_ | oops |
| 09:15.26 | Empty | Xnix, MOTD = Message Of The Day |
| 09:15.35 | Empty | Xnix, NP |
| 09:15.47 | tarzeau | RichiH: .../me get lilo from #freenode and he kick those two. and then our chan regular friend imitates them and also gets kicked .. mwahahaha |
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| 09:15.55 | tarzeau | RichiH: tonight |
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| 09:16.41 | RichiH | tarzeau: pft, you are just afraid of my mad skills |
| 09:16.47 | Xnix | Empty, you might know this too, is there a way to have one of my consoles automatically log in at boot time |
| 09:16.53 | Xnix | Empero, with no login prompt or anything? |
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| 09:16.56 | Xnix | err empty |
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| 09:17.47 | tarzeau | RichiH: i'm at work. wait you secretly trained, and studied http://bub-n-bros.sourceforge.net/crazybonuses.html ? |
| 09:17.49 | Empty | Xnix, all I can think of is either a) set boot options to put you in singleuser on boot (ick) or b) IIRC gdm or xdm has some option to do that, if you are using X |
| 09:17.55 | yahalom | i installed debian, when i run pppoeconf it seems to work, but i'm still not connected. when i reboot i get it starting up, but then debian requests me to use a different method. forgot to note exactly what. any ideas? |
| 09:18.16 | Xnix | Empty, right, i can do it through gdm, but i dont want to install gdm, and I cant find a way to do it with xdm |
| 09:18.24 | RichiH | tarzeau: as i said, i think those games are more fun without a manual :) |
| 09:18.26 | Xnix | im trying to set this up on a very minimal system (under 300 megs) |
| 09:18.37 | Xnix | single-user system |
| 09:18.39 | tarzeau | RichiH: it's not the manual, just a list of all bonus items |
| 09:18.40 | tarzeau | RichiH: and what they do |
| 09:18.43 | yahalom | it works on ubuntu and dsl |
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| 09:19.24 | RichiH | tarzeau: still :p |
| 09:19.27 | jm_ | yahalom: you'll have to be a lot more precise with this |
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| 09:20.06 | RichiH | how do i move various channels into one windows in irssi, again? |
| 09:20.14 | Empty | Xnix, I suppose you could try to hack "su username startx" in as your default display manager... |
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| 09:20.20 | mynullvoid | cafuego: did you get my email consist of a .snp file? |
| 09:20.25 | Xnix | Empero, heh im actually working on that |
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| 09:20.38 | Xnix | i put sudo -u user -i startx into an init script |
| 09:20.48 | Xnix | but it didnt seem to work, i think i may be able to get it eventually using that route though hehe |
| 09:20.55 | Empty | That guy gets lots of my pretty colored lines |
| 09:21.09 | Xnix | hehe |
| 09:21.12 | Xnix | lol |
| 09:21.37 | Xnix | maybe if users like me werent so lazy we'd type in your name instead of relying on tab.....nope |
| 09:21.39 | Empty | sudo will only work like that if you have it configged right, otherwise it asks for your password |
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| 09:21.48 | Xnix | Empty, well |
| 09:21.56 | Xnix | it shouldnt ask for pass since it will be running from root |
| 09:21.59 | Xnix | right? |
| 09:22.00 | Empty | the DM should be run as root though and root can su to anyone with no password |
| 09:22.09 | Xnix | yeah thats what i thought |
| 09:22.18 | jm_ | isn't it something like /window item move foo? |
| 09:22.18 | jm_ | Xnix: you can run any command via inittab, right now it starts login for you |
| 09:22.18 | jm_ | well "any" |
| 09:22.18 | Xnix | hmmm |
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| 09:22.24 | Empty | guess it does not |
| 09:22.28 | Empty | just tried |
| 09:22.32 | Xnix | jm_, correct, but how can i run it as a certain user |
| 09:22.41 | jm_ | Xnix: su? |
| 09:22.53 | Xnix | jm_, so i could run sudo -u user -i command |
| 09:22.56 | Xnix | in inittab? |
| 09:23.06 | Xnix | i have to at least run bash first or something |
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| 09:23.32 | jm_ | Xnix: yes, it should work ok |
| 09:23.34 | Empty | Xnix, why would you need to run bash first? :) |
| 09:23.45 | Xnix | heh |
| 09:23.48 | Xnix | wouldnt u need to? |
| 09:23.50 | Xnix | im not sure |
| 09:23.51 | jm_ | su does that |
| 09:24.11 | Xnix | hmmm |
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| 09:27.48 | Xnix | jm should sudo work as well u think |
| 09:27.54 | Xnix | jm_ |
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| 09:28.06 | Empty | xnix out of init sudo is pointless |
| 09:28.07 | sleon | hi |
| 09:28.13 | Xnix | empty why |
| 09:28.16 | sleon | is it dangerous to have openned snmpd? |
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| 09:29.05 | Empty | Xnix, sudo is only to give people partial root access really, su is smaller and better |
| 09:29.19 | Empty | Xnix, use the smallest tool that'll do the job |
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| 09:29.24 | Xnix | but su will require two separate commands right? |
| 09:29.25 | Xnix | like |
| 09:29.30 | Xnix | su user; command; |
| 09:29.33 | Xnix | or some such |
| 09:29.39 | sleon | can someone compromise my system if i have openned snmpd with read-only acces? |
| 09:29.42 | Empty | xnix no, that will do command after su exits |
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| 09:29.47 | Empty | you want a second arg |
| 09:29.49 | Empty | man su |
| 09:29.51 | bob2 | sleon: any extra daemon you run makes you more vulnerable |
| 09:30.00 | bob2 | sleon: it's not a huge issue, tho |
| 09:30.03 | Xnix | Empty, yeah im checking it out hehe |
| 09:30.04 | sleon | bob2, is snmpd known as vulnerable? |
| 09:30.21 | bob2 | some snmp implementations had a lot of vulerabilities in the past |
| 09:30.26 | bob2 | I don't know if that's the one Debiasnuses |
| 09:30.31 | sleon | bob2, i need remote monitoring of a server and don't want to setup vpn for it |
| 09:30.35 | Xnix | hmmm so su user -c startx |
| 09:30.38 | Xnix | possibly may work lol |
| 09:30.56 | sleon | bob2, bingo!! ssh tunnel :D |
| 09:30.58 | bob2 | sleon: you can firewall the port so it's only accessible to your monitoring machines |
| 09:31.02 | bob2 | or that |
| 09:31.03 | jm_ | sleon: so open it for one IP only or use ssh |
| 09:31.04 | bob2 | heh |
| 09:31.11 | sleon | i have dynamic ip :( |
| 09:31.14 | sleon | and server also has dyn ip |
| 09:31.18 | bob2 | ouch |
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| 09:31.57 | Empty | sleon, do you have access to a host that is stable and has a static? |
| 09:32.04 | sleon | Empty, nope |
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| 09:32.25 | Empty | sleon, you my friend are screwed... |
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| 09:32.39 | toonx | guys , after installing my own custom kernel the console is stuck in 640x480@60Hz mode! even if i pass to the kernel something like vga=791 (wich works with the standard kernel ) it flickers but goes with the same mode (640x480). |
| 09:32.45 | Empty | dynamic DNS is buggy but if you want to try that... |
| 09:32.47 | sleon | Empty, :( i wait for ipv6 |
| 09:32.55 | sleon | Empty, and then? |
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| 09:33.09 | sleon | Empty, can i make firewall rules based on damain rather then ip? |
| 09:33.21 | sleon | Empty, i am using dyndns.org for years :) |
| 09:33.51 | Empty | well you can I think depending on the FW but that's a bad plan... like rhosts |
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| 09:33.55 | vh13 | hi |
| 09:34.07 | vh13 | is there a way to find out why a package is kept back from upgrading? |
| 09:34.09 | Empty | I was thinking "how will they find each other?" |
| 09:34.10 | toonX | i do have framebuffer and virtual framebuffer and all that |
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| 09:34.17 | bob2 | vh13: try to install it |
| 09:34.22 | bob2 | vh13: or use aptitude |
| 09:34.30 | sleon | Empty, aaa they do it other domain |
| 09:34.43 | sleon | they are xxx.dyndns.org and yyyy.dyndns.org |
| 09:34.51 | Empty | ah |
| 09:34.51 | SlayerXP | !ops elif^ and sengul_ are onjoin spammers. please decapitate them. |
| 09:34.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: elif^ and sengul_ are onjoin spammers. please decapitate them. |
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| 09:35.57 | SlayerXP | bob2: you don't trust me? I'm hurt. |
| 09:36.12 | toonX | uhm, am i explaining myself wrong ? |
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| 09:36.30 | vh13^ | thanks bob2 |
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| 09:36.55 | bob2 | RichiH: spammers: ege---@pc18.sanidotudor.iasi.rdsnet.ro, Mirages@82.77.185.1 |
| 09:36.56 | SlayerXP | bob2: ta |
| 09:37.00 | sleon | bob2, what are these pictures they send you to ? |
| 09:37.16 | bob2 | sleon: windows viruses, usually |
| 09:37.16 | sleon | bob2, do they compromize mozilla? |
| 09:37.22 | bob2 | or so IU hear, I've never looked at them |
| 09:37.30 | amorphix | does anyone know if this card is a RAID controller: SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7896U2/7897U2 |
| 09:37.44 | SlayerXP | amorphix: adaptec do |
| 09:37.49 | amorphix | havent been able to Google it, seems to be ancient, nothing on Adaptec website |
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| 09:38.52 | amorphix | i think its just a host adaptor |
| 09:39.01 | toonX | let me put it this way, what do i need to do in order to have 1024x768 mode in console , wich is vga=791 , what options do i need to select when configuring the kernel ? |
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| 09:39.23 | jm_ | toonX: you need FB support in the kernel |
| 09:39.30 | bob2 | toonX: why don't you just use X? |
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| 09:39.36 | bob2 | kernel fb is so much pain |
| 09:39.43 | amorphix | fb? |
| 09:39.48 | bob2 | imagine having a basballe bat jammed down your throat |
| 09:39.50 | Xnix | framebuffer |
| 09:39.52 | petemc | vesa fb works fine for me |
| 09:39.53 | streuner_ | framebuffer |
| 09:39.54 | amorphix | oh |
| 09:40.04 | amorphix | that sounds painful |
| 09:40.04 | toonX | bob2 i do use X , but 640x680 is just nasty to work with ,, even thou from time to time |
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| 09:40.29 | toonX | jm_ i do have FB , and virtual FB , and all those options that came with |
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| 09:41.16 | toonX | jm_ and the console right now does use a FB mode, 640x480, but 1024x768 , wich is vga=791 , doesn't work , |
| 09:41.29 | jm_ | toonX: read svga.txt |
| 09:41.35 | toonX | jm_ read it |
| 09:41.40 | sleon | is it possible to have a framebuffer with decent frequency? |
| 09:41.49 | Xnix | yes |
| 09:41.57 | sleon | Xnix, how to select 100hz? |
| 09:42.07 | toonX | jm_ i did the same thing with the prebuild kernel that came with woody , and works |
| 09:42.09 | sleon | does vesafb support it? |
| 09:42.09 | Xnix | the only reason im trying to get framebuffer working is for a nice splash screen for this system |
| 09:43.09 | jm_ | toonX: then the driver is perhaps not loaded |
| 09:43.48 | jm_ | toonX: or you didn't pass the vga= option - cat /proc/cmdline |
| 09:44.09 | RichiH | bob2: thanks |
| 09:44.11 | sleon | ro root=LABEL=/1 splash=silent vga=791 quiet resume=/dev/hdb2 |
| 09:44.11 | amorphix | how much is an Adaptec PM2044uW RAID card worth? |
| 09:44.40 | SlayerXP | amorphix: you'd have to pay me to take it off your hands |
| 09:44.55 | toonX | jm well, the vga=option doesn't show on /proc/cmd , your right , but! i do have it in /etc/lilo.conf |
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| 09:45.50 | sleon | toonX, then on wrong place maybe :) or have you reinstalled lilo after you altered lilo.conf? |
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| 09:46.25 | Xnix | Empty, jm_, for some reason, when i run su user startx from inittab, i get this error on bottup on that temrinal: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. giving up. xinit: no such file or directory: unable to connect to X server xinit: no such process |
| 09:46.27 | amorphix | SlayerXP: why? |
| 09:46.31 | jm_ | toonX: wrong kernel entry then |
| 09:46.33 | Xnix | any ideas? |
| 09:46.46 | jm_ | Xnix: configur eit correctly |
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| 09:46.52 | amorphix | SlayerXP: it's a piece of c***? |
| 09:46.55 | Xnix | lol thanks jm_ :-P |
| 09:46.59 | vh13^ | is there a way to find out why a package is kept back from upgrading? |
| 09:47.02 | toonX | jm_ i dont get it , the same lilo.conf works just fine for the other kernel it loads |
| 09:47.02 | Xnix | any more suggestions for doing that? |
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| 09:47.10 | SlayerXP | amorphix: adaptec have gone from producing some of the best hardware on the planet to hawking barely-functional overpriced cra |
| 09:47.16 | SlayerXP | p |
| 09:47.18 | kenneth | hello |
| 09:47.25 | toonX | sleon what do you mean, wrong place ? |
| 09:47.28 | kurtak | So I have a question about getting a network question. My problem is, i put my laptop to sleep, then wake it back up, then use dhclient to get another lease, but that lease is usually really short, like 900 seconds. after that's expired, i can't ever get another offer. |
| 09:47.37 | possie | when i make a ssh tunnel , how will the remote box see incomming packet? comming from localhost or something? |
| 09:47.51 | toonX | sleon it's in lilo.conf , vga=791 that's it |
| 09:47.52 | sleon | toonX, maybe the option you want to have is on a wrong place in the configfile, so it is not interpreted correctly |
| 09:47.55 | SlayerXP | kurtak: have your dhcp server hand out longer leases |
| 09:47.55 | jm_ | toonX: add it under the entry for your own kernel |
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| 09:48.01 | jm_ | Xnix: no, I am serious |
| 09:48.05 | kenneth | i have a question can someone e-mail me a debian sarge repository list please |
| 09:48.13 | toonX | sleon uhmm good point |
| 09:48.15 | kurtak | SlayerXP: it's not my server. how can i do that? |
| 09:48.21 | SlayerXP | kenneth: try adding punctuation. |
| 09:48.22 | sleon | toonX, try to select it manually by boot |
| 09:48.23 | jm_ | Xnix: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common, check who the allowed users are, change it to everyone if it says console now |
| 09:48.31 | Xnix | jm_ well what did i configure incorrectly...startx works just fine when i run it as the user from another terminal |
| 09:48.35 | kenneth | Please. |
| 09:48.37 | SlayerXP | kurtak: ask the person who's server itis. |
| 09:48.37 | Xnix | or another console i mean |
| 09:48.50 | toonX | sleon at boot i cant , passing 791 it says out of range |
| 09:49.05 | sleon | toonX, you monitor? |
| 09:49.08 | toonX | jm_ im going to try that |
| 09:49.22 | kurtak | SlayerXP: but it's strange, b/c if i use dhclient any other time, ie, not after waking up, i can stay online for as long as i need to |
| 09:49.29 | toonX | sleon nah, monitor is good |
| 09:49.31 | sleon | toonX, then why you thinkg that when passig it in lilo it won't say? |
| 09:49.42 | Xnix | jm_ ahhh thanks man, lemme try rebooting again |
| 09:49.45 | sleon | toonX, it will do the same thing as when you do it manually |
| 09:49.56 | sleon | toonX, so make it first work manually |
| 09:50.17 | sleon | what is security policy of x server and what can be configured there? |
| 09:50.19 | toonX | sleon like , using SVGATEXTMODE or passing it to lilo at boot time ? |
| 09:50.29 | amorphix | SlayerXP: what happened? |
| 09:50.30 | kurtak | Then, why can't i get another lease after the first short one is expired after sleeping, but there's no problem doing that any other time?? |
| 09:50.36 | Xnix | jm_ ahhh now it keeps starting and stopping the xserver repeatedly |
| 09:50.36 | sleon | toonX, at boottime |
| 09:50.42 | Xnix | oh nm |
| 09:51.03 | sleon | toonX, like finding out an option that works by passing it at boottime and then bother about lilo.conf |
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| 09:51.14 | SlayerXP | amorphix: they stopped making their own hardware and started buying up small companies who were a vague threat to their business |
| 09:51.15 | Xnix | jm_, thanks :D i think i got it |
| 09:51.42 | SlayerXP | amorphix: unfortunately they bought a great deal of really shit hardware specs and put the adaptec brand on it |
| 09:51.49 | TheMoebius | If I just install a new font package (in this case, the chinese language fonts) how can I start using those fonts without having to restart X? |
| 09:51.52 | kurtak | Because I don't know enough about linux, I restart my computer to get another dhcp lease... since dhclient can't get an offer after sleeping. Any hints on what to do to get another lease like i do when i start up the computer?? |
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| 09:52.03 | mynullvoid | anyone have imre.pbm for clara ocr? |
| 09:52.10 | SlayerXP | amorphix: ever used an adaptec i2o card? |
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| 09:52.28 | jm_ | Xnix: enjoy |
| 09:52.39 | TheMoebius | kurtakr, try "dhcpcd eth0" |
| 09:52.44 | jm_ | kurtak: "/etc/init.d/networking restart" doesn't work? |
| 09:52.48 | toonX | sleon oh! allmost forgot , yes, i tryed passing some other mode at lilo prompt , vga=ask, ie: 80x25 , so what happends is that it goes with this large nasty mode for 1 sec then get back to the FB 640x480 mode without me even touching it |
| 09:53.14 | kurtak | jm_: i didn't know about that-- but it probably will |
| 09:53.25 | toonX | so basically im stuck with this mode no matter what i do , FB or no FB |
| 09:53.29 | toonX | weierd |
| 09:53.39 | sleon | toonX, hmm |
| 09:53.43 | kurtak | jm_: ah yes, i remember reading some stuff on the init.d scripts now.. thanks for the reminder! |
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| 09:53.59 | sleon | toonX, maybe you have double entry in lilo.config, or maybe initrd.img doing some wired things |
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| 09:54.31 | toonX | sleon shud i mention it's running sarge ? |
| 09:54.33 | RichiH | tarzeau: what would a large extend have done? |
| 09:54.44 | amorphix | SlayerXP: never |
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| 09:55.06 | amorphix | SlayerXP: i generally use older Adaptec products so I guess I'm still using the quality stuff ;) |
| 09:55.20 | toonX | sleon there is no double entry in lilo.conf |
| 09:55.36 | sleon | toonX, hmm |
| 09:55.42 | toonX | sleon let me just trye what jm_ said , and get back lateer |
| 09:55.53 | sleon | toonX, ok :) |
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| 09:58.36 | toonX | jm_ same thing with what you said |
| 09:58.45 | toonX | sleon nah, same shit |
| 09:58.54 | sleon | toonX, look at the table |
| 09:59.02 | sleon | try following modes: |
| 09:59.10 | sleon | toonX, or wait what you want again :)D |
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| 10:00.15 | sleon | toonX, do you want to have a framebuffered console? |
| 10:00.33 | toonX | sleon it's nicer, that's all thou slower |
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| 10:00.48 | sleon | toonX, are you using 2.6 or 2.4 kernel= |
| 10:00.53 | toonX | sleon 2.6 |
| 10:01.01 | toonX | sleon actually 2.6.10 |
| 10:01.07 | sleon | ok |
| 10:01.09 | sleon | look at query |
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| 10:01.29 | jethro | !wb liable |
| 10:01.30 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! liable has returned! |
| 10:01.43 | toonX | sleon got it |
| 10:01.51 | d03boy | cinelerra has quite the system requirements :O |
| 10:02.09 | PeTeRB | d03boy: WTF is that? |
| 10:02.27 | liable | jethro: hi :) |
| 10:02.40 | jm_ | toonX: does it show up in /proc/cmdline? |
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| 10:02.44 | d03boy | professional video software... dual 2.4 opteron processors with 4gb ram :P |
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| 10:02.59 | liable | !dict frabjous |
| 10:03.01 | toonX | jm_ BOOT_IMAGE=LinuxTEST ro root=306 |
| 10:03.01 | dpkg | could not find definition for frabjous |
| 10:03.07 | liable | heh |
| 10:03.10 | toonX | jm_ nothing about vga |
| 10:03.31 | toonX | jm_ it just doesn't grabb anythin, goes with 640x480 all the time |
| 10:03.31 | kurtak | here's probably an easy question. Why have i seen so many examples of uncompressing tar files used with the option vv (two v's)? how's that different than 1 v? |
| 10:03.48 | PeTeRB | kurtak: More verbose |
| 10:04.10 | kurtak | PeTeRB: okay, cool. thanks |
| 10:04.28 | jm_ | toonX: do you run lilo after editing lilo.conf? |
| 10:04.38 | toonX | jm_ sure :) |
| 10:04.40 | juanmals | Can someone help me installing reddo http://reddo.sourceforge.net? |
| 10:04.48 | Xnix | jm_ do u know of a small, simple program that lets one set the image in the root window (background)...i know there is esetroot, but there doesnt seem to be a debian package for this |
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| 10:04.50 | jm_ | toonX: then your lilo.conf is simply wrong |
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| 10:05.38 | PeTeRB | Xnix: display, xli, xsetroot |
| 10:05.55 | toonX | jm_ uhm , one thing thou, why the screen goes black , if i dont select FB when configuring the kernel ? i mean trying to boot a kernel without FB support ? |
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| 10:06.11 | jm_ | Xnix: display, but it's not small - either way, any tool that can accept -window root or -root will do |
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| 10:06.18 | Xnix | thanks PeTeRB |
| 10:06.38 | jm_ | toonX: because you didn't select VGA console support |
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| 10:06.42 | toonX | jm_ and the thing is that it doesn't get stuck at all, continues to load , until X shows up (gdm i have) |
| 10:07.15 | toonX | jm_ pff i'll go look, thanks for your time |
| 10:07.25 | jm_ | toonX: you need CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE enabled |
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| 10:07.50 | toonX | jm_ i'll just look my .config file |
| 10:07.54 | glick | god im so tired |
| 10:08.01 | glick | havent slept tonight :( |
| 10:08.30 | Mage\work | mmh is it possible to insert a DHCP server trhough a VPN ? Something like : DHCP Server ==== VPN ==== DHCP Clients |
| 10:09.15 | toonX | jm_ cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE shows CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y |
| 10:09.31 | toonX | jm_ it means i have it |
| 10:09.43 | sleon | toonX, nope |
| 10:09.44 | sleon | :DD |
| 10:09.53 | jm_ | toonX: then it might be it just selects wrong mode and the monitor shuts off? |
| 10:10.00 | PeTeRB | toonX: FYI, you can do grep blah filename ;) |
| 10:10.01 | sleon | toonX, look at /proc/config.gz better |
| 10:10.09 | TheMoebius | I'm trying to change my screen resolution and I appropriate lines in my XF86Config-4 file, but it still doesn't seem to give me the options for a higher resolution in the GNOME resolution changer. What else should I do? |
| 10:10.34 | liable | toonX: what about the video-console one, that screwed my boot screen |
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| 10:12.24 | d03boy | kdenlive seems to be dead in development? |
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| 10:14.10 | xophEr | If I change my motherboard, will I / what problems will I run into? |
| 10:14.22 | toonx_ | sleon can you say that again? i got disconn just when you were answering |
| 10:14.35 | streuner_ | xophEr: look at groups.google.com |
| 10:14.37 | sleon | <sleon> toonX, look at /proc/config.gz better |
| 10:14.48 | toonx_ | sleon k thanks |
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| 10:15.00 | streuner_ | xophEr: if its well supported in linux you have usually no problems |
| 10:15.22 | sleon | toonx_, but the option should be active to support dynamic config in /proc/config.gz |
| 10:15.39 | xophEr | great |
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| 10:15.46 | toonx_ | sleon shows the same CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y |
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| 10:16.27 | toonx_ | sleon but why doesn't show up on /proc/cmdline .. hmm |
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| 10:18.57 | PeTeRB | toonx_: Paste the output of 'grep -v '^#' /etc/lilo.conf' in #flood |
| 10:19.33 | toonx_ | PeTeRB ok |
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| 10:23.27 | amorphix | can someone tell me what cpu type this is: www.amorphix.net/temp/ScreenShot022.jpg |
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| 10:23.50 | jerkface | hello |
| 10:24.08 | nagual | PeTeRB: does ^# negate it? ie it shows anything not ^#? |
| 10:24.17 | streuner_ | amophix: cat /proc/cpuinfo in debian |
| 10:24.36 | PeTeRB | nagual: IIRC that means 'if starts with #' |
| 10:24.40 | PeTeRB | nagual: -v negates |
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| 10:24.43 | jerkface | hey, anyone know why a nipple mouse on a laptop would just suddenly stop working? :( |
| 10:24.51 | nagual | PeTeRB: thank you |
| 10:24.58 | amorphix | streunder: thanks but i meant what socket type |
| 10:25.00 | streuner_ | !fuck amorphix |
| 10:25.00 | PeTeRB | amorphix: The link doesn't work |
| 10:25.06 | jerkface | /dev/psaux doesn't seem to exist anymore, but it did:( |
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| 10:25.21 | honschu | How to invert axes in gnuplot? |
| 10:25.30 | amorphix | streuner: sorry, try now |
| 10:25.56 | amorphix | Pete: try it now |
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| 10:26.54 | amorphix | is that a socket 1? |
| 10:27.28 | streuner_ | !fuck amorphix |
| 10:27.36 | amorphix | quit that |
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| 10:28.01 | streuner_ | dude, you are running XP and asking us silly questions - leave and use debian |
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| 10:28.14 | paulswm | XP??? In here??? |
| 10:28.22 | jm_ | dunno, the link still doesn't work for me |
| 10:28.22 | streuner_ | yeah |
| 10:28.25 | paulswm | !singlishsmite amorphix |
| 10:28.26 | dpkg | amorphix: Ah, shaddup lah. You all fart and no shit only. |
| 10:28.32 | amorphix | streuner: for your information i am running a Debian server, and the Pentium socket im asking about IS in a Debian box |
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| 10:28.48 | amorphix | I'm running XP on my laptop not that it's any of your concern |
| 10:28.59 | derflo | hi |
| 10:29.06 | streuner_ | amorphix: so read the mobo manual, or use groups.google.com to find out |
| 10:29.25 | amorphix | theres no mention in the server manual of the socket type which is odd |
| 10:29.32 | amorphix | and google reveals nothing |
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| 10:29.40 | paulswm | amorphix: Sorry, was relying on faulty intelligence :) |
| 10:29.48 | amorphix | :) |
| 10:30.33 | amorphix | I'm running XP on my laptop as a temporary measure until my USB wacom pad arrives, since my serial one isnt supported in Debian |
| 10:30.33 | derflo | I have a subversion-directory with several php scripts, which I want to publish via apache. The php scripts should be executed. Which module do I need? |
| 10:30.34 | torsten | is it possible to forward a ping to an domain to a specified computer ? for example: ping mydomain.net to server.mydomain.net ? |
| 10:30.34 | torsten | using bind |
| 10:30.46 | honschu | How to invert axes in gnuplot? |
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| 10:31.45 | jethro | torsten: what are you trying to do? |
| 10:31.52 | streuner_ | amorphix: play with cat /proc/* - if you can't see any info about your socket type you are pretty out of luck then |
| 10:32.14 | amorphix | i guess so, cant you tell from the screenshot of the CPU image? |
| 10:32.21 | PeTeRB | toonx_: One moment please. |
| 10:32.31 | amorphix | usually you can tell from the shape of the CPU what socket type it uses? |
| 10:32.39 | jethro | torsten: for your info, mydomain.com can be an SOA _and_ a A record at the same time. |
| 10:32.51 | amorphix | i guess you guys dont know much about CPUs eh |
| 10:32.56 | streuner_ | amorphix: usually yes |
| 10:33.24 | amorphix | this to me looks like a type 1 socket |
| 10:33.29 | amorphix | but i just wanted confirmation |
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| 10:33.41 | amorphix | as im shopping for a pair of CPUs to do an upgrade |
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| 10:34.21 | sleon | toonx_, press alt+x |
| 10:34.21 | sleon | :) |
| 10:34.25 | PeTeRB | toonx_: You should RTFM sometimes. You don't simply put 'vga=791' there. You need to use 'append="vga=791"' |
| 10:34.26 | amorphix | I think it's totally dumb of the manufacturer not to state the CPU socket type, they must assume people will only buy their parts |
| 10:35.02 | nagual | heres something dumb as well. a lot of mb manufacturers dont put the name of the mobo on the mobo |
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| 10:35.44 | PeTeRB | sleon: LILO doesn't care about what videomode the Linux kernel uses. It's a kernel option. |
| 10:35.58 | amorphix | true |
| 10:36.02 | sleon | PeTeRB, vga=<mode> |
| 10:36.03 | sleon | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.03 | sleon | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.03 | sleon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:36.17 | sleon | PeTeRB, read manpage :)D |
| 10:36.17 | streuner_ | !tell sleon about flood |
| 10:36.24 | sleon | okok :) |
| 10:36.28 | PeTeRB | I don't have lilo installed |
| 10:36.31 | PeTeRB | One moment. |
| 10:36.35 | diblo | RTFM = Read the Famous Manual |
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| 10:36.52 | diblo | ^-^ |
| 10:36.57 | sleon | PeTeRB, man lilo.conf |
| 10:37.13 | flipy | anyone know if there is a package for moodle 1.5? |
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| 10:38.02 | PeTeRB | sleon: Bah. Maybe. |
| 10:38.10 | paulswm | amorphix: I know a bit about AMD cpus and little about Intels, but surely there is an ID or part number on the CPU you already have |
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| 10:38.52 | paulswm | amorphix: nm, I just scrolled back |
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| 10:39.11 | streuner_ | amorphix, paulswm: no need, just run cat /proc/cpuinfo and you know the CPU type... |
| 10:39.11 | PeTeRB | sleon: Well that was what a quick google search suggested. I haven't used lilo in a while, sorry |
| 10:39.52 | sleon | PeTeRB, me too :) |
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| 10:40.08 | medhunter | hello |
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| 10:40.40 | medhunter | gonna install Debian on a 3gigs root ; is it enough for a standard install? |
| 10:40.50 | SlayerXP | medhunter: more than enough |
| 10:40.51 | yalu_ | yes |
| 10:41.02 | PeTeRB | medhunter: Depends on what you use. |
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| 10:41.09 | yalu_ | you gen cram lots of great stuff on 3 GB |
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| 10:41.19 | medhunter | common things |
| 10:41.27 | PeTeRB | medhunter: Define 'common' |
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| 10:41.40 | medhunter | but a kit of 5cds of distro is very intresting |
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| 10:41.54 | PeTeRB | medhunter: You don't need all of them |
| 10:42.00 | PeTeRB | !d-i |
| 10:42.00 | dpkg | [d-i] the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 10:42.02 | medhunter | open office , gimp , browsers , p2p |
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| 10:42.10 | medhunter | I know |
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| 10:42.32 | derflo | has anyone experiences with the package "debian-cd". This is used to create an own debian-cd. |
| 10:42.42 | medhunter | just need something to figure out |
| 10:43.04 | derflo | I can't make my CD's bootable |
| 10:43.11 | nksen | ah |
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| 10:43.18 | medhunter | does RPM packages install in debian? |
| 10:43.20 | nksen | hows that query to dpkg for a quick sarge/sid mix? |
| 10:43.37 | derflo | medhunter: yes, but no guarantee |
| 10:43.50 | nomed^ | medhunter, try alien |
| 10:43.53 | derflo | medhunter: you can use alien to convert rpm->deb |
| 10:44.09 | medhunter | convert how? |
| 10:44.09 | RichiH | medhunter: in most cases, you should not need any rpm |
| 10:44.36 | derflo | medhunter: sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't |
| 10:44.51 | liran_ | if i've got port 6001 for x open in another box on the lan, how do i connect it from this box? |
| 10:44.59 | derflo | medhunter: alien package.rpm |
| 10:45.03 | nomed^ | i can't figure out when this happends "umount /initrd" .. for sure it doesn't in any files in the initrd ... |
| 10:45.14 | nomed^ | do you know? |
| 10:45.33 | nomed^ | that's impossible no mans explain that |
| 10:45.34 | medhunter | thx Gonna try it ASAP . |
| 10:45.34 | medhunter | p2p progies don't work as far as know |
| 10:45.42 | medhunter | e-donkey |
| 10:45.49 | medhunter | bittorrent work well |
| 10:45.54 | derflo | medhunter: forgot something: first, install alien (apt-get install alien). As far as I can remember, you must be root to use alien, but I can be wrong. |
| 10:46.17 | abydos | derflo: mortals can use alien |
| 10:46.17 | medhunter | well |
| 10:46.30 | abydos | derflo: just you have to be root to install the resulting pkg |
| 10:46.31 | derflo | cool |
| 10:46.32 | diblo | done |
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| 10:46.37 | medhunter | immortal do what? |
| 10:46.42 | paulswm | nomed^: man initrd |
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| 10:46.54 | abydos | medhunter: mortals == regular users |
| 10:47.01 | derflo | medhunter: immortals write their own code |
| 10:47.02 | medhunter | ahah |
| 10:47.02 | abydos | medhunter: as opposed to root, the 'god' user |
| 10:47.27 | medhunter | terms just for Debian ? |
| 10:47.43 | medhunter | havent heard about in other 4 distros |
| 10:47.46 | medhunter | mortals |
| 10:47.52 | abydos | medhunter: no, those terms apply pretty much to every other OS with a 'root' and 'users' |
| 10:48.00 | jm_ | nomed^: did you read initrd.txt? |
| 10:48.03 | medhunter | yep |
| 10:48.07 | nomed^ | yes and man to |
| 10:48.27 | abydos | medhunter: that's because it's a metaphor, employed by me on a too-lazy-to-type-"regular users" basis |
| 10:48.32 | nomed^ | i added also at the end of /sbin/init in initrd an ls /initrd |
| 10:48.32 | medhunter | well ; do u know a good e-donkey prog for Debian |
| 10:48.33 | medhunter | ? |
| 10:48.48 | medhunter | we all do |
| 10:48.48 | nomed^ | and it shows the files and dirs list |
| 10:48.52 | jm_ | nomeata: ehh, what for? |
| 10:48.57 | abydos | medhunter: uhh, I use xmule |
| 10:49.04 | derflo | aMule |
| 10:49.38 | technos | Think about it this way. Users can kill users, users can kill themselves, root can kill users.. But users can't kill root. |
| 10:49.38 | medhunter | has a Debian Package |
| 10:49.38 | medhunter | ? |
| 10:49.39 | nomed^ | but then when new root /sbin/init start it seems initrd is unmounted |
| 10:49.56 | abydos | medhunter: hang on a sec, let me check |
| 10:50.04 | medhunter | ok |
| 10:50.22 | nomed^ | because after the files list i see "Init version and so on" |
| 10:50.36 | Shorty` | anyone know of any programs I can use to convert avi to dvd "magically" ? :) |
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| 10:50.53 | torsten | jethro: thank you, i will check that |
| 10:50.54 | nomed^ | and init in root fs is a bin ... i don't really know how to solve this |
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| 10:51.00 | abydos | medhunter: I think it's in standard debian (at least it is in unstable and testing... testing as of about 1 month ago ;x) |
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| 10:51.17 | abydos | medhunter: the pkg is called xmule at any rate |
| 10:52.22 | medhunter | well ;gonna try it |
| 10:52.29 | medhunter | thx very much |
| 10:52.35 | medhunter | a small thing left |
| 10:52.43 | abydos | you're quite welcome. |
| 10:52.46 | medhunter | some pics for install process |
| 10:52.52 | medhunter | available? |
| 10:52.57 | abydos | ? |
| 10:53.07 | abydos | apt-get install xmule, as root |
| 10:53.08 | derflo | ??? |
| 10:53.13 | abydos | simple enough |
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| 10:54.09 | abydos | Shorty`: Nothing happens by magic, but I suggest checking out transcode |
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| 10:54.27 | amorphix | does the LX440GX motherboard use socket 370? |
| 10:54.28 | Shorty` | abydos, naw.. thanks anyhow, I'll take a gander :) |
| 10:54.38 | abydos | Shorty`: It encodes from vobs to avi, it should be capable of the reverse... |
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| 10:54.47 | amorphix | *L440GX |
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| 10:54.57 | jethro | amorphix: /msg dpkg fgi |
| 10:55.24 | abydos | bhaha |
| 10:55.24 | nomed^ | but then when new root /sbin/init start it seems initrd is unmounted ... because when the boot up process's over my /initrd is empty .. |
| 10:55.48 | abydos | Fuck, I need a new CPU fan. |
| 10:55.52 | abydos | err. |
| 10:55.54 | abydos | pardon my french. |
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| 10:55.59 | tarzeau | RichiH: no idea |
| 10:56.37 | RichiH | tarzeau: i missed it cause there was a cross hidden behind some fruit i went through.. :( |
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| 10:57.11 | tarzeau | mort: will you also join us at honggerberg in two weeks from berne? |
| 10:57.16 | tarzeau | mort: see the link at www.lug-ag.ch |
| 10:57.27 | tarzeau | RichiH: make bubbles on go upwards |
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| 10:58.21 | mort | tarzeau: nacht der physik? |
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| 10:59.06 | RichiH | tarzeau: ? |
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| 10:59.19 | tarzeau | mort: ja |
| 10:59.22 | RichiH | tarzeau: oh. well, the point is, i did not see the cross |
| 10:59.25 | tarzeau | RichiH: you can jump on bubbles? |
| 10:59.28 | tarzeau | oh i see |
| 10:59.54 | CyzarX | hwo to change user password? |
| 10:59.58 | brunocesar | hello, i've read in #debian-br that apt-get will be repaced by aptitude in sarge... is it true? |
| 11:00.00 | RichiH | CyzarX: passwd |
| 11:00.02 | mort | CyzarX: passwd |
| 11:00.08 | simonrvn | man passwd |
| 11:00.15 | kullanici | man passwd |
| 11:00.17 | tarzeau | button: no |
| 11:00.18 | kullanici | :D |
| 11:00.20 | tarzeau | brunocesar: no |
| 11:00.24 | derflo | what was the command to get the kernel-version? |
| 11:00.27 | nomed^ | brunocesar, o0 |
| 11:00.31 | tarzeau | derflo: uname |
| 11:00.32 | abydos | derflo: uname -a |
| 11:00.32 | PeTeRB | derflo: uname |
| 11:00.34 | RichiH | brunocesar: no. you need aptitude to go stable->testing as there are too many packages for apt-get to handle, though |
| 11:00.44 | simonrvn | man uname |
| 11:00.44 | derflo | brunco: aptitude is a "frontend" to apt |
| 11:00.50 | CyzarX | thanks guys! :) |
| 11:00.51 | derflo | thank you |
| 11:00.51 | kullanici | simonrvn :) |
| 11:01.39 | brunocesar | i have both of them installed but i'm writing a book and i need this information, so apt-get will continue to be official frontend for apt? |
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| 11:02.15 | derflo | is uname a short-name for something? |
| 11:02.34 | derflo | brunocesar: aptitude won't work without apt |
| 11:02.39 | derflo | aptitude uses apt |
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| 11:03.02 | RichiH | brunocesar: apt-get will stay |
| 11:03.41 | derflo | see apt-cache show aptitude |
| 11:03.48 | medhunter | r there any pics for steps of installation? |
| 11:03.53 | tarzeau | !r |
| 11:03.53 | dpkg | i heard r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE" YOU MORONS! |
| 11:03.55 | brunocesar | derflo i know that, ;-), but they told me that apt-get ill no longer be ported in sarge, i actualy prefer to use apt-get... |
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| 11:04.24 | derflo | brunocesar: cite - "aptitude is a terminal-based apt frontend with a number of useful features..." |
| 11:04.31 | tarzeau | medhunter: http://l10n-russian.alioth.debian.org/screenshots/ |
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| 11:05.02 | brunocesar | thanks =) ... |
| 11:05.03 | sir_latin | hey, I'm installing debian on an old compuer (pentium 233 Mhz, 48 MB RAM). Prob is it has an ISA ethernet card (3com etherlink iii) which the installation program can't find :( |
| 11:05.20 | tarzeau | sir_latin: lspci doesn't show it? |
| 11:05.28 | derflo | sir_latin: and? |
| 11:05.33 | tarzeau | sir_latin: can you open it and look? |
| 11:05.41 | tarzeau | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/sussudio/ |
| 11:05.41 | sir_latin | any ideas? I know there some dos tool for this ethernet card, something needs to be deactivated for linux to find it |
| 11:05.58 | sir_latin | the plug and play part I think |
| 11:06.28 | derflo | sirv_: I had no problems with such cards |
| 11:06.35 | sir_latin | well, insallation prog finds two actually eth0 and eth1 but it isn't able to run dhcp for any of them (I only have one card installed= |
| 11:06.39 | derflo | err: ser_la: |
| 11:06.58 | tarzeau | medhunter: these are much better: http://people.paniq.net/~fabbe/tmp/d-i-test/ |
| 11:07.08 | derflo | can't you run "modconf"? |
| 11:07.42 | derflo | there shoult be one option: load additional modules or so |
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| 11:08.23 | medhunter | russian ; but will suffice |
| 11:08.28 | medhunter | thx |
| 11:08.29 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Having fun with my ROMs? |
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| 11:08.58 | medhunter | tarzeau thx tooo |
| 11:08.59 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: yeah, if you got more machines, older machines, help me! |
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| 11:09.06 | medhunter | tarzeau : u took these pics |
| 11:09.06 | medhunter | ? |
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| 11:09.07 | derflo | sir_latin: "ifconfig -a" -> is this your card? (see MAC-Address) |
| 11:09.08 | sir_latin | tarzeau: haven't tried lspci (it's an ISA card) ifconfig findts shows two (eth0 and eth1) |
| 11:09.11 | medhunter | whoever did just try vmware |
| 11:09.16 | sir_latin | the installation program doesn't find the card automatically but is able to load 3com etherlink iii module and finds (eth0 eth1). But I get now connection |
| 11:09.23 | sir_latin | derflo: haven't tried that |
| 11:09.33 | tarzeau | sir_latin: ther'es one or two nics? |
| 11:09.40 | tarzeau | sir_latin: a single or dual one? |
| 11:09.47 | sir_latin | tarzeau: there is only one, that is what's wierd |
| 11:09.47 | tarzeau | sir_latin: you run dhclient on both? |
| 11:09.54 | sir_latin | tarzeau: I think it's dual |
| 11:09.57 | tarzeau | sir_latin: no onboard one? |
| 11:10.04 | tarzeau | sir_latin: can you make a photo? |
| 11:10.04 | sir_latin | tarzeau: nothing happends with dhclient |
| 11:10.05 | derflo | sir_latin: maybe you loaded IP-V6 -> IPV4. This could be eth1 |
| 11:10.15 | tarzeau | sir_latin: on both interfaces? what about hardware link? |
| 11:10.25 | derflo | sir_latin: timeout? |
| 11:10.26 | tarzeau | derflo: i don't think so |
| 11:10.26 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Older than this? Heh. Anyways, it's the only Linux machine from the two here. |
| 11:10.27 | sir_latin | derflo: don't know I just used the netinstall cd... |
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| 11:10.42 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: there's some dos binary of ree inside the tarball :) |
| 11:10.50 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: that'll also run on win9x |
| 11:10.59 | sir_latin | tarzeau: no onboard one, the computer is an old compaq heh... |
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| 11:11.06 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: The other runs XP |
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| 11:11.29 | derflo | tarzeau: I have this on my box (installed via netinst):eth1 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 35-4F-C0-00-04-D1-14-30-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 |
| 11:11.50 | derflo | I didn't add eth1 manually (as far as I can remember) |
| 11:12.59 | derflo | sir_latin: can you add a static IP-setting? does that work? |
| 11:13.11 | PeTeRB | derflo: dmesg | grep eth1 reveals anything? |
| 11:13.14 | sir_latin | derflo: I tried that didn't work |
| 11:13.44 | sir_latin | THe computer is on another room, any specific things you want me to try so I can ask u more specifically? |
| 11:13.45 | derflo | petemc: nothing |
| 11:13.50 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: What was the link again? I rm'ed the directory after mailing :/ |
| 11:13.53 | derflo | sorry: peterb: notghing |
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| 11:14.06 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: www.linuks.mine.nu/ree/ |
| 11:14.09 | PeTeRB | derflo: Is it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:14.15 | derflo | sir_latin: do you know the irq-setting of your card? |
| 11:14.21 | tarzeau | !ree |
| 11:14.21 | dpkg | hmm... ree is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ree/ |
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| 11:14.42 | derflo | PeTeRB: iface eth1 inet dhcp |
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| 11:15.04 | sir_latin | derflo: nope |
| 11:15.06 | wishie | what is a simple video editing program for editing ads out of a recorded digital tv stream ? |
| 11:15.37 | SlayerXP | wishie: vim in binary mode |
| 11:15.38 | SlayerXP | :) |
| 11:15.39 | derflo | sir_latin: you have also installed win on this machine? |
| 11:15.48 | wishie | SlayerXP: im not that keen :) |
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| 11:16.29 | derflo | sir_latin: does your NIC show any link? |
| 11:16.38 | sir_latin | derflo: windows works on that machine |
| 11:16.47 | sir_latin | derflo: I installed gentoo for a while ago |
| 11:17.02 | sir_latin | derflo: Had to do something with a dos proggie to the card befoe I got it working, but I don't remember what :( |
| 11:17.22 | sir_latin | derflo: had the same prob back then, installing debian now.. gentoo was to slow due too the compiling |
| 11:17.24 | derflo | sir_latin: you can get the irq-settings from your windows-side or open your case... |
| 11:17.42 | sir_latin | derflo: I'd have to open the case, windows is gone :) |
| 11:17.48 | sir_latin | derflo: What do I do when I have the irq-settings? |
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| 11:18.13 | derflo | you can pass the irc-setting when loading the modules for the card |
| 11:18.30 | derflo | sir_latin: but i can't remember exactly how |
| 11:18.36 | derflo | modconf should tell you |
| 11:18.47 | wishie | modinfo <modulename> to show what params it takes |
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| 11:19.10 | derflo | sir_latin: sometimes, IRQ-sharing can cause problems, too |
| 11:19.10 | Leusha | hi |
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| 11:19.18 | medhunter | install help!!! |
| 11:19.18 | medhunter | curious about partitioning choice ; is it like fedora or mandrake? |
| 11:19.26 | Leusha | i need help for a problem i encountered on a debian sarge |
| 11:19.33 | Leusha | could someone help me in private ? |
| 11:19.42 | Leusha | its concerns CPAN |
| 11:19.56 | wishie | Leusha: ask in the channel, that way various people may help |
| 11:19.59 | wishie | and others can learn |
| 11:20.03 | Leusha | ok |
| 11:20.09 | rikva | hi all; can anyone tell me where to get PyKDE for Debian Sarge... I really _can't_ find it in apt. I already installed like all py* stuff ... |
| 11:20.15 | Leusha | I'm working on a Debian Sarge, and i've a problem with this command : install Algorithm::Diff |
| 11:20.16 | Leusha | "Cannot unzip, no unzip program avalaible" |
| 11:20.29 | ledet | Leusha: install unzip |
| 11:20.44 | derflo | Leusha: apt-get install unzip |
| 11:20.46 | sir_latin | derflo: thanks |
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| 11:20.58 | Leusha | ledet and debhelper > thx i try ^^ |
| 11:21.00 | derflo | sir_latin: yw |
| 11:21.24 | toonX | sleon got more news here :) |
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| 11:22.29 | Leusha | didn't change anything |
| 11:22.36 | notension | !hi |
| 11:22.36 | dpkg | hello, notension |
| 11:23.14 | shagrat | hi. i'm looking at migrating my server from gentoo to debian as soon as sarge is out. i'm currently running a software raid lv1 managed by mdadm. is the installer able to recognize the the arrays so that i only need to format the needed partitions? |
| 11:23.22 | derflo | Leusha: what does "unzip -v" say? |
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| 11:24.02 | Leusha | derflo > a lot of things ^^ |
| 11:24.06 | toonX | sleon i think you just might be right about initrd , or something , because now i have in lilo.conf this entry append="video=vga16:off" , but it only works for the prebuild 2.4bf kernel .. cut's out the FB , but for the other kernel it has no effect |
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| 11:24.19 | Leusha | Un Zip and ZipInfo environnement options: |
| 11:24.23 | Leusha | UNZIP:[NONE] |
| 11:24.37 | Leusha | in fact, [NONE] for all |
| 11:24.46 | quitte | tarzeau: http://openworlddomination.org/wmaker.jpg |
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| 11:25.01 | derflo | Leusha: can you figure out, which unzip-prog he want's to use and on which paths he searches for it? |
| 11:25.54 | tarzeau | quitte: cool, but that debian window maker theme is so ugly brown (like ubunto!) |
| 11:26.14 | derflo | Leusha: gzip, bzip2, tar, unzip,... |
| 11:26.21 | kensuke | is irc.debian.org hosted on ircnet ? |
| 11:26.23 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: I got a WinFast GeForce2 MX MAX VGA BIOS V06.13.2001 for you |
| 11:26.25 | tarzeau | kensuke: no |
| 11:26.33 | quitte | tarzeau: got a theme that looks good and has minimal icon size? |
| 11:26.34 | kensuke | thanks |
| 11:26.42 | stouset | kensuke: freenode |
| 11:26.54 | tarzeau | quitte: no, icon size MUST be 64x64. |
| 11:26.58 | Leusha | derflo > gzip |
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| 11:27.07 | tarzeau | quitte: look freshmeat sodawater theme or use the classic NeXTSTEP one |
| 11:27.08 | rocky23 | anyone here a guru with iproute2 that i could direct questions too? much appreciated as im a bit stuck :) |
| 11:27.15 | quitte | tarzeau: must? cannot be changed? |
| 11:27.26 | tarzeau | quitte: can, but is so ugly otherwise |
| 11:27.33 | derflo | Leusha: you have gzip installed? |
| 11:27.39 | quitte | tarzeau screen is 640x240 |
| 11:27.43 | Leusha | dunno |
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| 11:27.44 | Leusha | i look |
| 11:27.47 | derflo | Leusha: Which command exactly fails? |
| 11:27.51 | petemc | rocky23: just ask |
| 11:27.57 | tarzeau | quitte: i've had window maker with 320x240 on a 9" |
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| 11:28.05 | tarzeau | quitte: yes, with 64x64 icons |
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| 11:28.11 | toonX | got two kernels , one prebuild that came with woody r4(2.4) and a custom one (2.6), this entry in /etc/lilo.conf append="video=vga16:off" works only for the prebuild one (2.4) for the other(2.6) has no effect, how can it be ? because what im trying to do is change the FB mode in the 2.6 one or cut it out for good ! |
| 11:28.13 | Leusha | derflo > gzip already installed |
| 11:28.16 | quitte | hehe |
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| 11:28.22 | Leusha | install Algorithm::Diff |
| 11:28.29 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Do you need a WinFast GeForce2 MX MAX VGA BIOS V06.13.2001 ? |
| 11:28.37 | jan_ | Hi, I upgraded star about a week ago, now star_1.5a57-1_i386.deb has a /bin/star but star_1.5a60-1_i386.deb has NO /bin/star , and i dont know what's replacing it |
| 11:28.45 | krystalino | do you know how to make backup of playstation cdrom ? |
| 11:28.45 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: send me, not that i can't live without it, but i collect them |
| 11:28.51 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: as others collect butterflies |
| 11:28.55 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Ah |
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| 11:29.24 | chealer | toonX: do you have vesafb loaded in the 2.6 one? |
| 11:29.44 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Why don't you collect the F000 ones? |
| 11:30.03 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: they are not complete, they are the system bios |
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| 11:30.07 | toonX | chealer CONFIG_FB_VESA=y |
| 11:30.11 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Ah |
| 11:30.12 | rocky23 | im having a bit of a problem with iproute2, ive set up 2 interenet connections on linux befor with relevant iproute commands, but all the services were hosted on the server itself not being dnatted, now ive created the same rules but im not getting any replies back from the second line which isnt the defautl gateway, i can get it to work with a multipath nexthop route, but thats not a fix as im not sure what im missing and you need additional pat |
| 11:30.12 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: i only collect the rom extensions |
| 11:30.15 | paivakil | where are amd64 issues discussed? |
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| 11:30.41 | asg | rocky23: have you looked at lartc.org's docs? |
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| 11:30.54 | rocky23 | asg: yes all they dont cover for anything about when u dnat |
| 11:31.10 | toonX | chealer means yes i do have it :) |
| 11:31.21 | asg | rocky23: #iptables might be able to help then |
| 11:31.23 | rocky23 | asg: you familiar with lartc stuff though yeah? you might be able to help :) |
| 11:31.32 | chealer | toonX: but it's a loaded module? |
| 11:31.38 | Leusha | derflo > do you wanna see the tutorial i'm using ? |
| 11:31.47 | chealer | toonX: what does cat /proc/fb return? |
| 11:31.49 | toonX | chealer no |
| 11:32.05 | toonX | chealer 0 ATI Radeon Yd |
| 11:32.05 | toonX | 1 VGA16 VGA |
| 11:32.05 | toonX | 2 Virtual FB |
| 11:32.24 | chealer | !tell paivakil about amd64 |
| 11:32.26 | derflo | Leusha: yes |
| 11:32.41 | Leusha | derflo > http://s11.invisionfree.com/Nedi/index.php?showtopic=46 |
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| 11:33.04 | toonX | chealer i have CONFIG_FB_VESA=y not CONFIG_FB_VESA=m |
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| 11:33.16 | chealer | toonX: I'm not sure you can turn it off if it's compiled in...why is it anyway? |
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| 11:34.12 | toonX | chealer so i can use 1024x768 mode ( vga=791 ) without having to run SVGATextMode |
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| 11:34.54 | qwertz_ | Has anybody debian packages for typo3 that work with apache2 and sarge? |
| 11:35.01 | toonX | chealer or at least why cant i change it , it stays 640x480 no matter what i do |
| 11:35.01 | asg | rocky23: sorry, I'm not that familiar with it, though I know of its existence. |
| 11:35.05 | tarzeau | qwertz_: ask google |
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| 11:35.18 | derflo | Leusha: try to reconfigure |
| 11:35.26 | derflo | 'o conf init' |
| 11:35.39 | toonX | chealer and if i dont compile it in the kernel i get blank screen! |
| 11:35.55 | Whitman | If I apt-get install the 2.6 kernel on sarge running the 2.4 kernel currently, will the install process automatically update grub/lilo? |
| 11:36.05 | chealer | toonX: OK. try "video=vesa:off" |
| 11:36.15 | asg | Whitman: it should do but you are always encouraged to verify that things are configured correctly. |
| 11:36.29 | toonX | chealer ok |
| 11:36.39 | derflo | Leusha: was unzip installed before? |
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| 11:36.54 | Leusha | nope |
| 11:36.54 | derflo | Leusha: before you asked us? |
| 11:36.57 | Whitman | ok, it's just that it'd be done remotely over ssh, didn't want to screw it up when I won't have access to the box for about a month |
| 11:37.08 | derflo | ok, then reconfigure |
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| 11:37.30 | asg | Whitman: then I'd be very sure to check. Personally, I'd wait until you can be onsite to do it; nothing wrong with 2.4.x kernels. |
| 11:37.40 | derflo | Leusha: or try to have a look at: /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm |
| 11:37.44 | Whitman | fair enough, thanks |
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| 11:38.30 | toonX | chealer nope, no effect at all |
| 11:39.06 | toonX | chealer right after decompressing the kernel image it goes into this 640x480 FB mode |
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| 11:39.33 | toonX | chealer maybe like you said , because it's compiled into the kernel hmm |
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| 11:40.05 | chealer | toonX: I'm checking my IRC logs |
| 11:40.14 | toonX | chealer ok |
| 11:40.15 | derflo | Leusha: ??? |
| 11:40.32 | veleno | how do i stop a on-going printing process launched via gpdf ? |
| 11:40.43 | Leusha | derflo > sorry i'm lost |
| 11:41.01 | Leusha | can we talk in private ? |
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| 11:41.27 | K_Dallas | i jsut saw and ad on distrowatch saying debian is here, sarge! |
| 11:41.38 | derflo | Leusha: we can, but I'm curious, if this brings us any advantages |
| 11:42.04 | derflo | Leusha: sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell |
| 11:42.18 | Leusha | i'm on a debian |
| 11:42.30 | derflo | and? |
| 11:42.34 | Leusha | ok when i type this command |
| 11:42.40 | Leusha | i enter CPAN |
| 11:42.49 | derflo | yes |
| 11:42.56 | chealer | toonX: video=vesa:off is what I've been suggested. there are some vesafb bugs in the BTS that might give a clue |
| 11:43.21 | Leusha | derflo > i installed unzip but i can't find the path |
| 11:43.26 | derflo | Does he ask for configuration? |
| 11:43.33 | xophEr | Can I split one partition into many? without interfering with the other partitions on the drive |
| 11:43.38 | derflo | ehich unzip |
| 11:43.39 | xophEr | If so, how |
| 11:43.42 | toonX | chealer uhm.. right now im going to recompile the kernel without FB :) |
| 11:43.44 | derflo | err: which unzip |
| 11:43.52 | Leusha | derflo > yeah but i don't need t configure |
| 11:43.54 | toonX | chealer hope i dont get a black screen again |
| 11:43.58 | petemc | xophEr: the partition numbers will change if you do that |
| 11:44.05 | resiak | Don't use CPAN directly on Debian. Use dh-make-perl. |
| 11:44.05 | Leusha | derflo > /bin/unzip <- bah path |
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| 11:44.33 | derflo | not /usr/bin/unzip ??? |
| 11:44.37 | Leusha | no |
| 11:44.40 | pego | test |
| 11:44.46 | asg | pego: no, you're not online |
| 11:44.52 | pego | lol |
| 11:44.56 | Guerin | !asg++ |
| 11:45.03 | asg | Guerin: :) morning |
| 11:45.07 | chealer | toonX: well, I know I did read a bug about that...maybe the bug fives a workaround |
| 11:45.10 | Guerin | asg: evenin' |
| 11:45.32 | asg | Guerin: didn't know if it had passed into the am there or not. |
| 11:45.37 | pego | i use xchat-text but dunno if this is the best |
| 11:45.46 | Guerin | heh |
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| 11:45.48 | Guerin | not yet :) |
| 11:45.49 | xophEr | petemc, is that such a big deal then? |
| 11:45.53 | resiak | !best |
| 11:45.53 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 11:45.59 | Guerin | !irssi-text |
| 11:46.00 | dpkg | well, irssi-text is probably the best IRC client |
| 11:46.10 | derflo | Leusha: does CPAN tell you that or which? |
| 11:46.21 | petemc | xophEr: it can be worked around |
| 11:46.23 | Guerin | dpkg, best irc client is <reply> see irssi-text |
| 11:46.24 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
| 11:46.26 | resiak | derflo, Leusha: Use dh-make-perl rather than using CPAN directly. |
| 11:46.32 | resiak | !best irc client |
| 11:46.32 | dpkg | i guess irssi-text is probably the best IRC client |
| 11:46.38 | pego | thanks guerin |
| 11:46.40 | chealer | toonX: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=285034 but it doesn't give a workaround |
| 11:46.43 | Guerin | you're welcome |
| 11:46.55 | resiak | Guerin: I worried for a second that dpkg would say "i guess best irc client is probably the best IRC client" ;-) |
| 11:47.05 | pego | i come back so |
| 11:47.08 | pego | exit |
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| 11:47.25 | Leusha | derflo > when i apt-get install unzip, i'm told that unzip is already installed |
| 11:47.27 | asg | resiak: that would be a good answer though |
| 11:47.34 | resiak | asg: Very true. |
| 11:47.34 | Guerin | resiak: haha |
| 11:47.36 | Leusha | but i can't personnally find the âth |
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| 11:47.49 | asg | Leusha: dpkg -L unzip |
| 11:47.55 | Leusha | derlfo > /usr/bin/unzip doesn't work |
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| 11:48.08 | tarzeau | isn't talksoup.app the best irc client? |
| 11:48.11 | gabrod24 | good morning |
| 11:48.21 | xophEr | petemc, can you point me to the right direction? :) |
| 11:48.25 | derflo | Leusha: "which unzip" -> /bin/unzip ? |
| 11:48.43 | Leusha | "which unzip" ???? |
| 11:48.46 | gabrod24 | i am gabriel, someone speek spanish |
| 11:48.50 | Leusha | i don't understand |
| 11:48.55 | derflo | resiak: ? |
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| 11:49.03 | derflo | type: "which unzip" |
| 11:49.09 | asg | !tell gabrod24 about es |
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| 11:49.11 | derflo | on a console |
| 11:49.18 | Guerin | tarzeau: strangely not |
| 11:49.18 | pego | back |
| 11:49.30 | resiak | derflo: ! |
| 11:49.34 | resiak | !dh-make-perl |
| 11:49.34 | dpkg | dh-make-perl is probably a packaged script that converts Perl modules snagged from CPAN into .deb archives. You get to use CPAN archives, Debian's dependencies stay in one piece, everybody's happy. Find more information at http://packages.debian.org/testing/devel/dh-make-perl.html |
| 11:49.45 | derflo | resiak: didn't get your proposal |
| 11:49.54 | resiak | derflo: Read what dpkg just said? |
| 11:50.02 | Guerin | derflo: what's not to get. Don't use CPAN. Use dh-make-perl |
| 11:50.08 | derflo | yupp |
| 11:50.13 | Guerin | I repeat: DON'T USE CPAN |
| 11:50.24 | resiak | Guerin: s/N/N DIRECTLY/ |
| 11:50.25 | gabrod24 | i got a question |
| 11:50.27 | Guerin | if you have understood, please type "Yeas, I get it" |
| 11:50.34 | Leusha | derflo > i tried asg command |
| 11:50.43 | Leusha | and i don't have error mssage anymore |
| 11:50.48 | derflo | Leusha: heard them? |
| 11:50.49 | Leusha | on install Algorithm::Diff |
| 11:50.50 | RichiH | resiak: DON DIRECTLY'T USE CPAN ? |
| 11:50.52 | resiak | !tell Leusha -about enter |
| 11:50.58 | resiak | RichiH++ |
| 11:51.01 | PeTeRB | RichiH: Just wanted to say that. |
| 11:51.02 | derflo | Yeas, I get it" |
| 11:51.02 | derflo | *g |
| 11:51.02 | gabrod24 | i need apply a root permissions to other user |
| 11:51.10 | gabrod24 | how make that |
| 11:51.14 | Guerin | derflo: your compliance is noted. |
| 11:51.14 | resiak | !es |
| 11:51.15 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:51.16 | Leusha | oups sorry guys ^^ |
| 11:51.21 | Guerin | gabrod24: man sudoers |
| 11:51.45 | gabrod24 | how is sudoers |
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| 11:51.53 | Guerin | gabrod24: apt-get install sudo |
| 11:51.55 | asg | gabrod24: apt-get install sudo ; man 5 sudoers |
| 11:52.07 | Guerin | don't ask. just do. |
| 11:52.12 | gabrod24 | ok thanks |
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| 11:53.13 | tarzeau | gabrod24: www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/ see my sudoers |
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| 11:53.54 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: How big was your website? |
| 11:54.08 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: about 600 mb |
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| 11:54.50 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Whoah |
| 11:55.12 | spoopin | asg: morning |
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| 11:56.08 | Leusha | Guerin > i installed dh-make-perl |
| 11:56.27 | Leusha | derflo > still doesn't work |
| 11:56.42 | derflo | Leusha: I think, the other can help better then I can. |
| 11:56.58 | Leusha | you were helpfull, thx ^^ |
| 11:57.04 | derflo | Leusha: did you read what dpkg said? |
| 11:57.12 | derflo | Leusha: the man? |
| 11:57.19 | derflo | I din't |
| 11:57.21 | Guerin | !wayttd Leusha |
| 11:57.21 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Leusha? |
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| 11:57.37 | Leusha | what ??? |
| 11:58.03 | asg | spoopin: morning |
| 11:58.10 | derflo | Guerin: is there a list of commands that dpkg understands? |
| 11:58.11 | Guerin | please explain what you're trying to do, how you're trying to do it, and what you hope to achieve. |
| 11:58.38 | Guerin | derflo: no, there are 25,000 of them, so you don't want to know them all |
| 11:59.16 | derflo | Guerin: So they should be listed somewhere |
| 11:59.35 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: in 10384 files |
| 11:59.48 | Leusha | ok, so, i'm trying to install a freeware called Nedi (http://s11.invisionfree.com/Nedi/index.php?showtopic=46) and i've to use CPAN, but it doesn't work. When i type this commande : "install Algorithm::Diff" i've this answer "Cannot unzip, no unzip program avalaible" |
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| 11:59.59 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: I assume you have a kick-ass connection too. |
| 12:00.11 | tarzeau | derflo: i have some here, www.linuks.mine.nu/apt/ |
| 12:00.21 | petemc | Leusha: and you cant figure that out? |
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| 12:00.29 | cafuego | vm with 4 disks, 4x64Mb sw raid5 /boot, 2x 4Gb sw raid0 LVM / :-) |
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| 12:00.53 | Leusha | petemc > i installed unzip but it didn't change anything |
| 12:01.12 | petemc | Leusha: you might need to reconfigure the cpan module to tell it where it us |
| 12:01.44 | tarzeau | derflo: xk.cmd.list and apt.sql.gz |
| 12:01.54 | Leusha | do you know the path to cpan.pm ? |
| 12:02.11 | cafuego | Leusha: man locate |
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| 12:02.42 | tombs | hi ppl |
| 12:03.01 | derflo | Leusha: /etc/perl/CPAN |
| 12:03.48 | Guerin | derflo: there's a mysql dump. /msg dpkg my factoids |
| 12:03.55 | derflo | dpkg tell derflo test |
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| 12:04.08 | derflo | !dpkg tell derflo test |
| 12:04.13 | derflo | hmmm |
| 12:05.05 | derflo | !dpkg nickometer derflo |
| 12:05.05 | dpkg | 'derflo' is 0.000% lame, derflo |
| 12:05.06 | derflo | !dpkg nickometer dpkg |
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| 12:05.14 | derflo | cool |
| 12:05.14 | derflo | who wrote apt? |
| 12:05.14 | derflo | err: dpkg? |
| 12:05.56 | Guerin | blootbot.sf.net |
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| 12:07.50 | cafuego | Use the 1.2.0 package from Sid instead. |
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| 12:10.57 | cafuego | PeTeRB: You can't; it divides. |
| 12:11.30 | PeTeRB | "the 'lame nick-o-meter' reading for _.=!!!PETERB!!!=._ is 99.9876%, peterb" |
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| 12:11.44 | PeTeRB | That's my best attempt |
| 12:11.50 | idnar | PeTeRB: the nick would need to be infinitely long |
| 12:12.21 | PeTeRB | !abuse |
| 12:12.21 | dpkg | RAPE! RAPE!! Don't ever come near me again! |
| 12:12.28 | PeTeRB | Heh. |
| 12:13.09 | _demoncat_ | is there an utility to test udp connectivity on a certain port? I ask because I'm trying to set up kerberos and the kdc is running, but when I run kinit it says it can't connect to any KDCs. |
| 12:13.13 | _demoncat_ | I did an strace on kinit and apparently it's getting ECONNREFUSED even though netstat -na |grep 88 shows the kdc listening |
| 12:13.25 | matthias3 | has anyone here had luck building the linux-wlan modules for kernel 2.6.8? |
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| 12:14.59 | a194 | hi all |
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| 12:15.28 | a194 | anyone knows if i can install debian in a ibm rs6000? |
| 12:15.48 | petemc | a194: there are different types of rs6000 |
| 12:16.04 | petemc | a194: and it varies according to each |
| 12:16.51 | a194 | IBM RS6000 43P-140 233MHz 9GB AIX Workstation |
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| 12:17.22 | badjoke | a |
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| 12:17.25 | petemc | a194: that'll be a power3, chrp iirc |
| 12:17.25 | badjoke | wow |
| 12:18.05 | cafuego | 604e? |
| 12:18.21 | a194 | power3 iso? |
| 12:18.21 | cafuego | or g3-type already? |
| 12:18.26 | petemc | a194: there are guides online, its worth mentioning theres no bootloader, so you have to install new kernels by dd'ing them into a particular type of partition |
| 12:18.44 | a194 | oh ok |
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| 12:21.12 | petemc | a194: mm, that may in fact be a PReP machine... |
| 12:21.23 | a194 | yep |
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| 12:21.57 | petemc | the rs6000s go right up to room sized machines.. |
| 12:22.11 | sherly | hallp |
| 12:22.17 | a194 | ok |
| 12:22.22 | sherly | hi |
| 12:22.32 | a194 | sherly hi :) |
| 12:22.40 | petemc | a194: either way, its not exactly trivial, but there are ample guides, and the woody install guide is complete |
| 12:22.41 | sherly | aslpls |
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| 12:22.56 | a194 | sherly xD |
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| 12:23.28 | a194 | ok :) i take a look then |
| 12:23.37 | sherly | 19 f jakarta |
| 12:23.45 | a194 | oh :P |
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| 12:24.45 | a194 | ciao emiliano :P |
| 12:25.03 | emiliano | ciao! |
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| 12:25.13 | badjoke | a194 lol stuped bot |
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| 12:25.41 | RichiH | sherly: i am not sure this is the right channel for this |
| 12:25.54 | toonX | chealer well , i recompiled the kernel 2.6.10 without virtual FB wich i had, i parsed to the kernel this option video=vesa:off (else i would have ran into that black screen bug) , so console uses vga16 mode 7 ,i can actually see the wrinting :) no black screen for me |
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| 12:27.02 | chealer | toonX: aha. I didn't think the kernel option would make a difference without FB in kernel. what's virtual FB? |
| 12:27.08 | matthias3 | has anyone here seen the error 'make[7]: execvp: head: Argument list too long' when compiling the kernel? |
| 12:27.25 | greycat | matthias3: ask a linux channel. |
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| 12:27.53 | toonX | chealer something BAD i suppose :) experimental ayways |
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| 12:28.24 | toonX | chealer but indeed there is a bug related with vesa and 2.6 kernels |
| 12:28.28 | alafa | in gftp, how to tell when the transfer is completed? |
| 12:28.54 | toonX | chealer and anyways vga16 is faster than vesa , right ? |
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| 12:29.08 | Akselii | hey |
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| 12:29.17 | chealer | toonX: absolutely no idea, I was also trying to disable that stuff only |
| 12:29.22 | Akselii | what could i do here: I had no errors with locales till now that i build my kernel, i get errors like locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 12:29.29 | PeTeRB | toonX: vga16 has only 16 colours |
| 12:29.49 | toonX | PeTeRB like the name says :) |
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| 12:30.20 | toonX | PeTeRB i guess i cant play anymore avi movies in console |
| 12:30.43 | RichiH | you can |
| 12:30.50 | RichiH | mplayer has console output |
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| 12:31.02 | Guerin | -vo vesa ; you need to be root or fix your vesa perms |
| 12:31.10 | Guerin | it's pretty fast, too |
| 12:31.11 | alafa | Alselii, I have that problem too. the msg appears during boot-up. But my system seems to work fine. |
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| 12:31.42 | RichiH | alafa, Akselii: /msg dpkd locales |
| 12:31.43 | toonX | Guerin yea, i did fixed the vesa problem , video=vesa:off , :) |
| 12:31.47 | RichiH | dpkg, even |
| 12:31.47 | dpkg | odd |
| 12:31.52 | RichiH | heh |
| 12:31.56 | RichiH | !even |
| 12:31.57 | Guerin | haha |
| 12:32.00 | badjoke | dsvbfdgn |
| 12:32.02 | RichiH | !odd |
| 12:32.03 | dpkg | even |
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| 12:32.47 | Guerin | !:E |
| 12:32.47 | dpkg | Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! |
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| 12:33.21 | toonX | now that i can actually see the wrinting it's time to get sound working |
| 12:33.23 | alafa | RichiH, exactly what should i do? key in the command you mentioned right now, in this session? |
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| 12:34.19 | RichiH | !tell alafa about locales |
| 12:34.27 | RichiH | alafa: dpkg should have told you what you need to do :) |
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| 12:34.28 | jethro | !irritate me |
| 12:34.29 | dpkg | jethro: HELP ME!!! who uses kde !!!1 |
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| 12:34.57 | sherly | asl pls |
| 12:35.19 | jethro | !asl |
| 12:35.19 | dpkg | jethro, American Sign Language isn't very useful on Internet Relay Chat Old enough, Yes please, My place. above sea level |
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| 12:35.20 | badjoke | :)) |
| 12:35.21 | badjoke | lol |
| 12:35.22 | badjoke | !asl |
| 12:35.23 | badjoke | :) |
| 12:35.29 | greycat | sherly: take it elsewhere. This is not the channel for it. |
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| 12:35.49 | badjoke | piss on all of u ! |
| 12:35.54 | badjoke | piss on all of u ! |
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| 12:36.01 | jethro | moron |
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| 12:36.04 | asg | hmm, guess he pissed himself |
| 12:36.06 | Sunblade | aww |
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| 12:36.16 | Sunblade | poor `u' |
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| 12:37.04 | Sunblade | hmm there's no such nick `u' :P |
| 12:37.11 | sander_ | hi.. i'm havine some trouble with cups.. |
| 12:37.18 | jethro | sander_: /msg dpkg sicco |
| 12:37.22 | xtension | tell badjoke about ask |
| 12:37.25 | sander_ | when I type in: lpq.. I get Warning: no daemon present |
| 12:37.35 | mastertet | Hello, I plan to install Sarge when it releases next week. I would like to know if there is a way to find on which cd are specific applications. For example, what cd do I need if I want AfterStep? |
| 12:37.36 | asg | xtension: it was kicked |
| 12:37.39 | Sunblade | sander_: then start the daemon |
| 12:37.56 | jethro | mastertet: all you need is d-i. and you don't have to wait, you can install now. /msg dpkg d-i |
| 12:37.58 | sander_ | Sunblade, what deamons can I start? |
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| 12:38.08 | RichiH | sherly: we all know you are a pre-pubescent boy who happens to have summer holidays, so just just stop it, plzkthxbyebbq |
| 12:38.10 | toonX | whre can i get some info about vga modes? (now that i cant use vesa due to that bug) |
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| 12:38.31 | sander_ | Sunblade, cant I do it with: /etc/init.d/cupsys restart ..? |
| 12:38.36 | asg | toonX: boot with vga=ask |
| 12:38.37 | mastertet | jethro, it is because I have slow connection at home and I prefer to install from cd... |
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| 12:38.59 | toonX | asg yes, but .. aren't there more modes for use ? |
| 12:39.01 | RichiH | seems to of worked ;) |
| 12:39.09 | asg | toonX: not without framebuffer, no. |
| 12:39.14 | toonX | asg :( |
| 12:39.18 | sander_ | Sunblade, after I do that command.. I still get that error msg.. |
| 12:39.19 | tarzeau | greycat: what's going to happen with the us $? |
| 12:39.21 | asg | toonX: better just to boot the box and use X to setup resolution for running many rxvts |
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| 12:39.31 | sander_ | Sunblade, maybe i'm starting wrong dreamon. or something? |
| 12:39.34 | Sunblade | sander_: invoke-rc.d lpd start ? |
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| 12:39.35 | tarzeau | how many more years left for bush? |
| 12:39.48 | toonX | asg yea , that works too |
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| 12:40.06 | ledet | tarzeau: 3½ |
| 12:40.09 | sander_ | Sunblade: Starting printer spooler: lpd [already running] |
| 12:40.25 | tarzeau | ledet: when will the us move away from iraq? |
| 12:40.28 | asg | sander_: did you install the cupsys-bsd or cupsys-client package? |
| 12:40.35 | sander_ | after restarting it. I still get that error msg |
| 12:40.49 | greycat | tarzeau: depends on whether he managed to get himself declared Emperor. |
| 12:40.50 | ledet | tarzeau: probably not the next 4-8 years |
| 12:40.55 | greycat | manages* |
| 12:41.00 | ledet | greycat: lol |
| 12:41.07 | sander_ | asg, cupsys-client |
| 12:41.08 | ledet | greycat: good pint |
| 12:41.12 | matthias3 | is anyone here familiar with the debian kernel-package system? I have used it before, but now I have found an error that I don't know how to fix. |
| 12:41.16 | NOthsouth | how did I put one wallpaper per workspace? |
| 12:41.16 | asg | sander_: okay, just checking |
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| 12:41.29 | ledet | matthias: ask your question |
| 12:41.33 | sander_ | asg, I got lpr and cupsys-client installed |
| 12:41.41 | sander_ | asg, I good guess.. i've done that wrong before |
| 12:41.43 | RichiH | greycat: next in line in schwarzenegger, anyway ;) |
| 12:41.46 | sander_ | *A* |
| 12:41.47 | jethro | greycat: is that likely to happen? |
| 12:41.52 | RichiH | or s/;\)// |
| 12:42.05 | asg | sander_: oh, install the cupsys-bsd package for the cups hacked lpr |
| 12:42.09 | tarzeau | greycat, ledet: don't the people in the us pay the military/army stuff in iraq? |
| 12:42.14 | asg | sander_: the standard lpr package won't work with cups |
| 12:42.21 | ledet | tarzeau: yes |
| 12:42.27 | tarzeau | ledet: for 4-8 more years? |
| 12:42.32 | ledet | tarzeau: yes |
| 12:42.33 | sander_ | asg: then I need to remove lpr? |
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| 12:42.43 | asg | sander_: it will probably be removed for you if you install cupsys-bsd |
| 12:42.45 | ledet | tarzeau: doesnt cost the american state a penny |
| 12:42.52 | mastertet | NOthsouth, what is your desktop/window manager |
| 12:42.53 | sander_ | asg, yep.. |
| 12:42.58 | ledet | tarzeau: most money go to wages... those come back as taxes |
| 12:42.59 | sander_ | asg. i'll do that:) |
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| 12:43.38 | sander_ | asg: now its working better:) |
| 12:43.41 | sander_ | asg: thanks |
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| 12:43.45 | asg | sander_: you're welcome |
| 12:43.48 | matthias3 | ledet: thanks. I want to compile the linux-wlan modules for kernel 2.6.8. In stage 2 of make modules, i get the error 'make[7]: execvp: head: Argument list too long' this is a reult of the line @echo $(Q)$(MAKE) -rR -f $(srctree)/scripts/Makefile.modpost in build-686/Makefile |
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| 12:45.14 | alafa | ok, just been thro dpkg-reconfigure locale. when it comes to the language selection, is it the more the better? when it comes to the system default locale, should it be none or a particular language? |
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| 12:46.08 | Solet-dolt | alafa: what languages will the people using your computer be speaking |
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| 12:46.26 | alafa | english and french. |
| 12:46.50 | NOthsouth | mastertet, gnome |
| 12:46.50 | Solet-dolt | then i'd say english and french, as for default, whats your favorite of the 2? |
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| 12:47.08 | Yurii | Hello |
| 12:47.12 | sander_ | asg: now it actually says my printer is ready..but no jobs gets queed |
| 12:47.18 | xtension | mplayer with artsd skips on X ? is ther a way to boost performance ? |
| 12:47.20 | NOthsouth | how did I change the login manager? |
| 12:47.31 | alafa | Solet-deb, in both English and French, there are many varieties. |
| 12:47.37 | Lin | There is some better place to talk about a free open view solution? If not, someone know a good replacement for open view in Free Software? I'm beggining to write an application to do the samething as nmdemandpool (hp netmon). Someone want to talk about this? |
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| 12:47.58 | asg | sander_: http://localhost:631, see if there is anything there. Also, see /var/log/cups/* |
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| 12:48.19 | xtension | Lin i dont its usefull to do the same things again |
| 12:48.22 | Solet-dolt | alafa: pick the dialects that apply to you |
| 12:48.31 | asg | Lin: nagios is probably close, perhaps #nagios might interest you |
| 12:48.32 | yxa | is there a pack that allows me to connect to a router like hyperterminal? minicom didn't work |
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| 12:48.57 | alafa | Solet-deb, ok, same for the system default? |
| 12:48.59 | Lin | xtension: nmdemandpool isn't free. |
| 12:49.00 | asg | yxa: minicom should work, you probably have the wrong settings |
| 12:49.25 | xtension | Lin ah thats differnt then , excuse |
| 12:49.36 | Solet-dolt | if you're in canada i doubt you want brittish english... you prolly want us/ca english... if you're in ca you prolly dont want the french of france you prolly want canada's goofy french |
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| 12:49.37 | Petaris | I have a problem with slow printing when printing from mozilla or firefox, I use CUPS, can anyone shed some light on why this might be happening? |
| 12:49.52 | Solet-dolt | pick the ones you speak or your users speak |
| 12:49.53 | Lin | xtension: nope! :-) I'm thinking in use simmilar |
| 12:49.57 | Solet-dolt | its really not a big deal |
| 12:50.00 | Lin | xtension: nope! :-) I'm thinking in use similar names. |
| 12:50.10 | Lin | some |
| 12:50.21 | Lin | my keyboard is crazy! sorry |
| 12:50.24 | xtension | Lin make a new channel ? |
| 12:50.37 | asg | Solet: goofy french == ouí eh? |
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| 12:50.46 | Lin | xtension: Why should I do a new channel? |
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| 12:51.07 | sohn | does anyone has experience with freenx/nx nomachine under sarge/in general ? I have installed it from the kanotix repository, but doc is not available. |
| 12:51.10 | Solet | asg: oui, tres bon! |
| 12:51.30 | xtension | Lin well youre the first arent you ? with a new open-source application |
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| 12:51.48 | Solet | wait... since when does 'oui' have an accent... or have i been missing somethingfor quite some time? |
| 12:51.57 | sander_ | asg: nice.. saw it in the logs... I was missing gs-esp |
| 12:52.08 | asg | Solet: sorry, latent greekness |
| 12:52.14 | sander_ | asg: strange that cups didnt depend on gs-esp |
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| 12:52.28 | Lin | xtension: I didn't done anything.. Just looking for an application. If doesn't exist. I will begin to write one.. But channel isn't a priority right now! :-) |
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| 12:52.38 | asg | sander_: check /usr/share/doc/cups/* and see if it indicates why? |
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| 12:52.42 | Solet | asg: np, its just very early here, sun woke me up.... and i got confused :P |
| 12:53.19 | mastertet | NOthsouth, I don't think you can have one wallpaper/workspace under Gnome |
| 12:53.20 | alafa | which the best way to publicise my website for free? |
| 12:53.35 | NOthsouth | ? |
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| 12:53.42 | asg | alafa: put 'free porn' in the META headers. You'll get plenty of hits then. |
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| 12:53.55 | Solet | alafa: google |
| 12:54.04 | sander_ | asg: Unable to convert file 0 to printable format for job 5! Hint: Do you have ESP Ghostscript installed? |
| 12:54.05 | Solet | you can submit it to googlebot's queue |
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| 12:54.15 | PeTeRB | alafa: Have some useful content and then let Google find you. |
| 12:54.17 | yxa | asg I've point it to the right serial port with correct bit rate. what else do i need to do? |
| 12:54.22 | asg | sander_: did you install it? did you restart cups afterwards. |
| 12:54.26 | mastertet | NOthsouth, I was refering to "how did I put one wallpaper per workspace?" |
| 12:54.37 | NOthsouth | ahh |
| 12:54.41 | NOthsouth | i see |
| 12:54.44 | NOthsouth | ok thx |
| 12:54.45 | sander_ | asg: I got it working now:P |
| 12:54.56 | tico | hello, how can i load a kde skin? |
| 12:54.56 | alafa | what is useful content? i have a website which doesn't appear in google search. |
| 12:54.59 | toonX | , /usr/sbin/alsaconf did get the sound working , but only for root, for others it says audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Permission denied, ls -l /dev/dsp shows this lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9 Jun 2 01:46 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 , anything wrong here ? |
| 12:55.03 | asg | yxa: usually, they are 9600 8N1 (try tweaking the 8N1) |
| 12:55.07 | sander_ | asg: np.. just wondred why it didnt depend on esp |
| 12:55.16 | asg | sander_: not sure. |
| 12:55.16 | BoD_SWAT | hi all, I'm using a Debian server. I installed VSFTPd and want to see who's on it and how much bandwith is used. Can anyone help me? |
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| 12:55.26 | Solet | alafa: i know a company (cant remember the name) that for 10k us will make sure that your site is the top hit of a given search criteria for the next 5 years |
| 12:55.29 | asg | toonX: /msg dpkg audio |
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| 12:55.38 | toonX | asg ok |
| 12:55.50 | xophEr | what to apt-get remove to remove kde completely? |
| 12:55.52 | sander_ | asg: thanks again.. saved me one hour of hassle:) |
| 12:55.56 | alafa | no, no, we are talking about free publicity. |
| 12:55.58 | asg | sander_: you're welcome again |
| 12:56.07 | asg | xophEr: /msg dpkg remove kde |
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| 12:56.19 | alafa | with money, i wouldn't have to mention it here. |
| 12:56.22 | xophEr | thanks |
| 12:56.43 | Solet | alafa: do you use cpanel? |
| 12:56.48 | rocky23 | anyone here ever done 2 internet connections and then managed to dnat that to one lan ip, and the the lan ip responded via the correct interface ? |
| 12:57.07 | Solet | if you do there's an option on cpanel that submits you to alll major search engines |
| 12:57.12 | alafa | Solet, that's new to me. what does it do? |
| 12:57.27 | Solet | its a web based site management tool |
| 12:57.31 | Solet | its pretty good |
| 12:57.37 | alafa | free? |
| 12:57.43 | Solet | but i dont think its free.... |
| 12:57.54 | Solet | i dont do my own hosting any more so i dont know |
| 12:58.05 | Solet | i'm a loser and i pay for hosting |
| 12:58.12 | xtension | rocky23 is it usefull ? |
| 12:58.20 | alafa | i have already built and hosted the site. i need to publicise it now. |
| 12:58.34 | tarzeau | alafa: url? |
| 12:58.43 | Solet | http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/?q=cpanel |
| 12:58.56 | rocky23 | xtension: yes because you load balance between the 2 links to one ip address, and it has to beo to one ip addresses as that windows box will only listen on that one address for the services |
| 12:59.09 | alafa | tarzeau, more detail, pls. |
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| 12:59.29 | xtension | rocky23 ah |
| 12:59.31 | Solet | alafa: he wants to know the url of your site |
| 12:59.32 | tarzeau | alafa: what is the url you need to publicise? |
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| 12:59.55 | alafa | ok, it is kien.e2uhosting.net. |
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| 12:59.59 | yxa | asg yeah its always 9600-8-N-1 for console. its just not giving me any response |
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| 13:00.30 | xtension | rocky23 thats not the way to do these things , not at all |
| 13:00.31 | tarzeau | alafa: google ads on top are bullshit |
| 13:00.34 | opqdonut | i get this error when i try to bind to my (debian) yp server: "Cannot register service: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused" |
| 13:00.41 | toonX | asg thanks :) |
| 13:00.44 | shizz | what does it mean when you pop a burned audio cd into the cdrom drive and it says I cant browse the cdrom drive? |
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| 13:00.48 | rocky23 | xtension: how would you do it |
| 13:00.55 | tarzeau | alafa: get a real email address |
| 13:00.58 | alafa | tarzeau, you are quite cryptic, in yr msg. |
| 13:01.07 | shizz | when I try to access my cdrom, it tells me: "Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted." |
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| 13:01.10 | fred21 | hello |
| 13:01.16 | tarzeau | alafa: you want to do it consultancy? don't use gmail. and don't do google ads |
| 13:01.22 | xtension | rocky23 1) replace the windowz box with something usefull |
| 13:01.33 | fred21 | i'm looking for the "iso of debian" to install via internet |
| 13:01.35 | shingouz | shizz: you do not mount audio cd's, you use some cd player to access them |
| 13:01.37 | alafa | tarzeau, why? |
| 13:01.39 | Solet | tarzeau: the company i was talking about didnt do google adds, they google spiked your site to the top |
| 13:01.43 | tarzeau | alafa: looks more professional |
| 13:01.44 | rocky23 | xtension: heh too true :) if only lotus would support debian :) |
| 13:01.52 | asg | yxa: hmm, dunno. You did whack the <ENTER> key once you connected right? |
| 13:01.53 | tarzeau | Solet: i understood that. |
| 13:01.57 | shizz | shingouz, what does the term "mount" in linux mean? |
| 13:02.04 | tarzeau | Solet: i was just reviewing alafa's page that he wants to make more public |
| 13:02.05 | shingouz | shizz: man mount |
| 13:02.20 | shingouz | shizz: making the drive readable basically |
| 13:02.20 | xtension | rocky23 then there more ways to do loadbalancing but a simple is to add a marker to your tcpip packets |
| 13:02.20 | Solet | aha |
| 13:02.22 | alafa | my is a small time biz now, i am concerned about cost. free stuff is good to start with. |
| 13:02.25 | directhex|work | !d-i fred21 |
| 13:02.25 | PeTeRB | alafa: The screenshots in example page could be smaller |
| 13:02.26 | dpkg | fred21, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 13:02.45 | rocky23 | xtension: yeah i guess i could use connmark :/ |
| 13:02.46 | greycat | shingouz: it connects the file system on the target device into the Unix directory hierarchy. |
| 13:02.49 | fred21 | dpkg: is it sarge or woody? |
| 13:02.56 | greycat | shizz: you too. |
| 13:03.00 | shizz | shingouz, well all im trying to do is view the files on the cd in an attempt to copy them to my hard drive in order to test my sound. my cdrom isn't hooked up to the sound card, so i dont hear anything when i let the cd play |
| 13:03.00 | PeTeRB | fred21: sarge |
| 13:03.04 | directhex|work | fred21, dpkg is a bot. and that's sarge. |
| 13:03.09 | greycat | fred21: click it and see. |
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| 13:03.31 | shingouz | greycat: i guess that is a geekier way to say what i did ;) |
| 13:03.31 | Solet | alafa: you gotta invest a little money into things, for one get your own domain and make your email addy something like president@yourdomeain.com |
| 13:03.33 | directhex|work | shizz, that hasn't been neccessary for 7 years, in all but the most obtuse of antique cd player apps |
| 13:03.41 | Solet | or admin@yourdomain.com |
| 13:03.44 | alafa | PeTeRB, any other comments? |
| 13:03.44 | fred21 | thank you very much |
| 13:03.47 | directhex|work | i note that GRIP falls into that category |
| 13:03.56 | directhex|work | goobox plays via DAE fine though |
| 13:04.01 | shizz | directhex|work, so..if I dont hear sound coming from the cdrom then assume my sound isn't working? |
| 13:04.01 | shingouz | greycat: i still havent had enough caffeine today, that is why i try to keep my thoughts pretty simple :) |
| 13:04.25 | directhex|work | shizz, to verify sound as working, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 13:04.28 | greycat | directhex|work: if by "antique" you mean "anything that conforms to the normal standards instead of bypassing them", then I suppose you're correctd. |
| 13:04.36 | PeTeRB | alafa: Is it me or is the page ALL CAPS? |
| 13:05.00 | shizz | directhex|work, well I've done that test. I get a buzz, but I'd like to hear music. yet I cant. |
| 13:05.02 | greycat | shizz: are you trying to rip songs from an audio CD, or copy files from a data CD? |
| 13:05.07 | alafa | PeTeRB, yeah, its all CAP, for clarity and effect. |
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| 13:05.11 | PeTeRB | alafa: Also, the HTML sucks. |
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| 13:05.22 | ico2 | how do i purge config files for all removed packages, dpkg --purge -a did not work |
| 13:05.23 | shizz | greycat, it's a burned cd with audio on it.. |
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| 13:05.37 | alafa | PeTeRB, html is auto-gen by nvu. |
| 13:05.44 | shizz | greycat, i think it's just a data cd with music |
| 13:05.48 | greycat | shizz: if you want to play it like a CD player, then use grip, but you'll have to connect the CD-ROM to the sound card. If you want to rip the songs into .wav files, use cdparanoia. |
| 13:05.57 | greycat | shizz: wait, is it DATA or is it AUDIO?? |
| 13:06.00 | alafa | NVU, another free stuff. |
| 13:06.18 | directhex|work | shizz, or you could use goobox, which will play audio cd without need for cables that haven;t even been supplied with computing hardware since 2002 or so |
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| 13:06.28 | shizz | greycat, i really couldn't tell you off my head. I recorded the cd a long time ago, but with a different OS. think that could be the problem? |
| 13:06.35 | jm_ | or xmms-cdread |
| 13:06.37 | xtension | mmm looks like it consultans are on #debian for consultance |
| 13:06.41 | Solet | alafa: if you're going to be writing your own site, save some money and get dreamweaver |
| 13:06.41 | greycat | shizz: fucking hell. Just try mounting it and see what happens. |
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| 13:06.49 | greycat | shizz: or stick it in a standalone hardware CD player. |
| 13:06.53 | toonX | why /bin/ls when executed by root shows colors and when executed by others show's no colors? i have the same .bashrc for root and for user ! |
| 13:07.00 | directhex|work | jm_, good point, that also uses DAE |
| 13:07.03 | jm_ | toonX: /msg dpkg bashrc |
| 13:07.09 | greycat | !wikifaq toonX DotFiles |
| 13:07.10 | PeTeRB | alafa: Sheesh. http://www.w3schools.com/ |
| 13:07.10 | dpkg | toonX: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 13:07.15 | alafa | dreamweaver don't work on linux, or debian gnu/linux. |
| 13:07.16 | toonX | jm_ thanks |
| 13:07.29 | shizz | greycat, okay well I do try to mount it, if I understand correctly what "mount" means in linux, and it tells me: "Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted." |
| 13:07.32 | yxa | asg yep. no go. |
| 13:07.40 | greycat | shizz: then it's likely AUDIO. |
| 13:07.48 | Solet | alafa: get an emulator, its the best web dev program out there |
| 13:07.57 | greycat | shizz: try cdparanoia or a hardware CD player. |
| 13:08.00 | matthias3 | I am using the debian kernel-packaging system. I want to compile the linux-wlan modules for kernel 2.6.8. In stage 2 of make modules, i get the error 'make[7]: execvp: head: Argument list too long' this is a reult of the line $(Q)$(MAKE) -rR -f $(srctree)/scripts/Makefile.modpost in build-686/Makefile. How do I fix this? |
| 13:08.01 | shizz | okay, so audio cd's cannot be mounted? |
| 13:08.09 | nomed^ | alafa try crossover ... the one that cames with mepis pro .. maybe there is a try version |
| 13:08.09 | shizz | greycat, ok |
| 13:08.24 | tarzeau | alafa: you have customers/clients? any projects that you finished successfully? |
| 13:08.37 | smoser | anyone know wht the "correct" way to get the source provided by kernel-source into a state that out-of-kernel drivers can expect to build against it? I would like to have the .config set and the kernel patched with PATCH_THE_KERNEL . |
| 13:08.38 | takatumi | matthias3: which card? |
| 13:08.45 | tarzeau | alafa: you know there's http://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
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| 13:08.47 | shizz | directhex|work, where do I get goobox from? |
| 13:08.57 | directhex|work | shizz, um... it's in apt |
| 13:08.58 | directhex|work | !info goobox |
| 13:08.59 | smoser | i've done this manually before, but I thought there might be some easier way. |
| 13:08.59 | shizz | directhex|work, apt-get install goobox? |
| 13:09.08 | dpkg | goobox: (CD player and ripper for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.91-1 (sid), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 908 kB |
| 13:09.09 | ico2 | how do i purge config files for all removed packages, dpkg --purge -a did not work? |
| 13:09.10 | tarzeau | alafa: oh and the galaxy picture , left bottom has an ugly stripe |
| 13:09.13 | alafa | tarzeau, how is that useful to me? |
| 13:09.19 | tarzeau | alafa: for publicity |
| 13:09.21 | jm_ | smoser: you need to configure it, but what's the point of doing that and compiling against it if you're not using the kernel with the same config? |
| 13:09.25 | matthias3 | takatumi: it's a smc2632w, the intersil kind. i had it working with 2.4 and linux-wlan, but now I am running 2.6 |
| 13:09.31 | tarzeau | alafa: if you are linked to at many places, your ranking gets better |
| 13:09.41 | smoser | jm_, I am using the kernel with the same config |
| 13:09.50 | smoser | I want to build a module for it. |
| 13:09.56 | shizz | hmm, is there an equivalent to MSN Messenger for Debian? |
| 13:09.57 | takatumi | matthias3: isn't it supported by hostap? |
| 13:09.58 | smoser | but don't need to rebuild it. |
| 13:09.59 | toonX | jm_ i dont have an .bash_profile |
| 13:10.01 | tarzeau | shizz: asmn |
| 13:10.04 | xtension | Rates: $85 - $135 per hour |
| 13:10.05 | alafa | tarzeau, ok, i'll look up ../consultant |
| 13:10.08 | jm_ | smoser: and its build system is too stupid to cope with it? |
| 13:10.13 | nomed^ | shizz amsn |
| 13:10.15 | shizz | tarzeau, care to guide me? |
| 13:10.22 | tarzeau | shizz: no, it's bullshit |
| 13:10.29 | shizz | tarzeau, lol |
| 13:10.32 | directhex|work | shizz, there are seveal MSN messenger clients. gaim is most popular, or amsn or kopete |
| 13:10.33 | jm_ | toonX: well I create files in such cases, not sure about you - ls -a /etc/skel |
| 13:10.34 | xtension | #debian should charge ppl visiting here :: Rates: $85 - $135 per hour !! |
| 13:10.34 | matthias3 | takatumi: I thought hostap was just for setting up access points; i want to use it as a regular wireless client |
| 13:10.35 | smoser | jm_, cope with what? any module build system expects the kernel to be already patched (other than those integrated with debian build) |
| 13:10.40 | nomed^ | shizz, no web cam i think |
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| 13:10.51 | toonX | jm_ k dude |
| 13:10.55 | shizz | directhex|work, do any of those have webcam abilities? |
| 13:10.57 | xtension | they re fcking insane |
| 13:11.06 | toonX | jm_ thanks |
| 13:11.17 | directhex|work | shizz, not yet, though i believe the protocol for doing it was recently reverse-engineered, so it should turn up sooner or later |
| 13:11.23 | jm_ | smoser: it should use /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build symlink to find it ... |
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| 13:11.28 | directhex|work | shizz, blame microsoft for not making the spec public |
| 13:11.34 | tarzeau | xtension: i'd make the price per bread in the currency of the one who asks per question |
| 13:11.38 | tarzeau | xtension: that was answered |
| 13:11.39 | shizz | directhex|work, lol, i always blame microsoft - bastard. |
| 13:11.40 | smoser | jm_, and what provides that? |
| 13:11.53 | toonX | jm_ found it |
| 13:11.53 | jm_ | smoser: it's created when you install modules |
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| 13:12.03 | xtension | tarzeau how much do you charge for that answer ? |
| 13:12.04 | ico2 | how do i purge configuration files for all packages that have been removed but not purged? |
| 13:12.16 | tarzeau | xtension: where do you live? |
| 13:12.21 | smoser | jm_, I'm really confused. what modules install that link? I've never seen it on a debian machine. |
| 13:12.22 | xtension | tarzeau holland |
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| 13:12.39 | tarzeau | xtension: what does a kilogramm of bread or a chocolat croissant cost in holland? |
| 13:12.40 | jm_ | smoser: make modules_install target probably |
| 13:12.46 | smoser | and it would only be relevent if you had the kernel-tree package anyway. and have extracted the tarball and patched it. |
| 13:12.50 | toonX | jm_ done :) |
| 13:13.08 | xtension | tarzeau 3 rather large breads for 2 euris |
| 13:13.15 | asg | ico2: dpkg -P them |
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| 13:13.19 | smoser | well.... debian doesn't package that stuff up. I'm hoping to build against debian kernels. and make debian packages. |
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| 13:13.21 | ico2 | no |
| 13:13.21 | jm_ | ico2: /msg dpg purge them all |
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| 13:13.27 | shizz | is there a GNOME equivalent to kopete? |
| 13:13.27 | tarzeau | xtension: ok i'll take them |
| 13:13.42 | directhex|work | shizz, gaim, as i told you 3 minutes ago |
| 13:13.49 | shizz | >:( sorry. |
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| 13:14.26 | ico2 | thanks |
| 13:14.35 | shizz | directhex|work, thanks for the kindness. |
| 13:14.40 | jm_ | smoser: yes it does, it's in kernel-headers-foo packages |
| 13:14.46 | matthias3 | takatumi: thanks for the pointer to hostap |
| 13:14.54 | alafa | tarzeau, i have look thro the debian consultant list. how to get linked to it or listed on it? |
| 13:15.04 | tarzeau | alafa: read the bottom of the page |
| 13:15.11 | takatumi | matthias3: good luck. |
| 13:15.25 | tarzeau | alafa: where do you operate/live? |
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| 13:15.43 | medhunter | Helpl about partitioning |
| 13:15.47 | alafa | quebec |
| 13:15.50 | takatumi | matthias3: try module-assistant to build it. |
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| 13:16.11 | medhunter | I have made a root 3 gigs , swap 700 mb ; my ram 512 |
| 13:16.19 | medhunter | already by pm |
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| 13:16.35 | medhunter | how will debian installer |
| 13:16.35 | smoser | jm_, thank you |
| 13:16.41 | medhunter | interact with this? |
| 13:17.02 | jm_ | smoser: no worries (you should use kernel-headers-foo package if you're using kernel-image-foo) |
| 13:17.14 | greycat | medhunter: badly, if your enter key keeps pressing itself in the middle of the installation. |
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| 13:18.18 | takatumi | medhunter: my / has grown to about ~15 gigs, but you should be ok, if you aren't going to install many packages. |
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| 13:18.36 | medhunter | well ; I can keep my current partioning system ? |
| 13:18.40 | alafa | tarzeau, any comment about my operational base? |
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| 13:18.53 | medhunter | & install it to my root partition |
| 13:18.57 | medhunter | ? |
| 13:19.13 | liran | isn't berkeley db 1.85 compatibility means apt-get install db4.3-util? |
| 13:19.19 | smoser | jm_, thats exactly the piece of information I couldn't find. thanks. I knew there had to be some easy way. |
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| 13:20.34 | tarzeau | alafa: no, but it's not like people will be running up your house to get a consultant |
| 13:20.54 | tarzeau | alafa: it's up to you to make sure they need you -- no matter how much publicity you make, or don't make |
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| 13:26.33 | PeTeRB | Joins and parts, joins and parts, weeeee. |
| 13:26.40 | sneex | !help |
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| 13:27.53 | kingsley | Is there a utility like "xrestop", but which exits instead of looping? |
| 13:27.53 | Sunblade | PeTeRB: Those things happen in an irc channel. |
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| 13:29.14 | medhunter | installation : do Partitioning steps memic those of mandrake or fedora? |
| 13:29.26 | tralala | !test |
| 13:29.26 | dpkg | Yes, tralala, you're still online. |
| 13:29.29 | xtension | school's out ? |
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| 13:29.31 | [Timmeh] | whats the comamnd to copy a directory into another folder? |
| 13:29.33 | tralala | yes! |
| 13:29.40 | greycat | [Timmeh]: cp -a |
| 13:29.50 | xtension | coffee break ? |
| 13:29.53 | [Timmeh] | thnx |
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| 13:30.11 | [Timmeh] | cp -a directory/original directory/copy |
| 13:30.13 | [Timmeh] | ? like that |
| 13:30.33 | medhunter | installation : do Partitioning steps memic those of mandrake or fedora? |
| 13:30.36 | medhunter | any clue? |
| 13:31.11 | Guerin | medhunter: just fucking install it. |
| 13:31.11 | opqdonut | medhunter: probably |
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| 13:31.21 | shingouz | medhunter: no, we do not use drake or fedora. should not be too different except for the fact that the debian installer is not somethign you point and click |
| 13:31.24 | Guerin | if you're not a complete drooling moron you'll manage |
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| 13:31.45 | xtension | Guerin liitle chance |
| 13:31.52 | mwelsh | anyone know whats wrong with the apt source on debian.uchicago.edu? |
| 13:31.53 | Guerin | xtension: i know, but we must live in hope. |
| 13:31.56 | medhunter | having preconfigured my partitions |
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| 13:32.11 | Guerin | medhunter: just tell the installer to use them. All done. Easy. |
| 13:32.17 | medhunter | can i just point to my root & voila? |
| 13:32.19 | greycat | !tell ralf about away |
| 13:32.21 | Guerin | YES |
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| 13:32.29 | smadigan | zadf |
| 13:32.31 | Guerin | goddamn |
| 13:32.45 | smadigan | what goes on here? |
| 13:32.48 | Guerin | i bet you;re the sort of person who ums and ahs on amusement park rides, holding up the line |
| 13:32.54 | shingouz | Guerin: blood pressure about 56 psi? :) |
| 13:32.59 | greycat | smadigan: shenanigans, that's what. |
| 13:33.08 | Guerin | smadigan: a bit of goat-murdering, some kitten strangling... you know the drill |
| 13:33.09 | medhunter | sorry for bothering ; but u know how precious data is |
| 13:33.19 | mwelsh | our shenanigans are cheeky and funny |
| 13:33.21 | Guerin | shingouz: naw, my blood pressure is fine, according to the doc. |
| 13:33.30 | Guerin | medhunter: yes. You have backups, right? |
| 13:33.30 | shingouz | medhunter: backup the box you have before you start installing.... |
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| 13:33.55 | shingouz | Guerin: so is mine, at least it is high enough |
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| 13:35.06 | Anthro | [OT] I am trying to move a bunch of mail from an Outlook PST file to maildirs suitable for courier-imap. I am running courier-imap on my server box already, so I figure the easiest way to go about this is to use Outlook to connect via IMAP and copy the messages. It seems that Outlook only deals with POP3, though. Can anyone help? |
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| 13:35.35 | Guerin | Anthro: outlook most assuredly DOES deal with imap |
| 13:35.37 | xtension | medhunter do not format c: , i reapeat do not format c: |
| 13:35.38 | tico | hi how can i configure konsole to be transparent? |
| 13:35.40 | Guerin | badly, but it does |
| 13:35.50 | cat | tico: with aterm you can do it |
| 13:35.55 | cat | or eterm |
| 13:36.04 | Guerin | that transparency isn't real |
| 13:36.15 | Guerin | real transparency ain't possible with xfree86 |
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| 13:36.46 | fialar | anyone here know the command for adding/removing startup scripts to various runlevels? it has escaped me. |
| 13:36.49 | tralala | tico: by exploring its options |
| 13:36.56 | PeTeRB | fialar: update-rc.d |
| 13:36.59 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
| 13:37.02 | abrotman | rcconf |
| 13:37.04 | Anthro | Guerin: Good to hear. Are you sure that's true for Outlook proper and not just Outlook Express? |
| 13:37.05 | abrotman | maybe rc-conf |
| 13:37.06 | fialar | ahh thanks muchly |
| 13:37.07 | tico | cat aterm? |
| 13:37.11 | radicchio | Antro, Outlook can manage IMAP4. |
| 13:37.24 | gnube | When installing logrotate I get this error; cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory |
| 13:37.27 | Guerin | Anthro: since outlook express is the 'lite' version of proper outlook; yes. |
| 13:37.38 | gnube | what is the debian/control file? |
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| 13:38.04 | Guerin | gnube: read it and you'll see |
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| 13:38.20 | xtension | Anthro or load the pst file and send them to your new mailbox ;) |
| 13:38.25 | gnube | well you see I can't find it. |
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| 13:38.46 | test | :D |
| 13:38.48 | Guerin | gnube: then you don't need it. |
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| 13:39.13 | Guerin | gnube: that package seems broken. |
| 13:39.17 | jm_ | Anthro: there are also apps that can convert PST files to mbox files and so on |
| 13:39.17 | gnube | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:39.39 | radicchio | Anthro, you can try to use Mozilla Thunderbird for Win32 (similar to Outlook Express). |
| 13:40.12 | Azar | Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 updated (r6) |
| 13:40.12 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.13 | Anthro | radicchio: Will that read a .pst file? |
| 13:40.33 | jm_ | Azar: it also says this is the last update for Woody |
| 13:40.59 | PeTeRB | Azar: Sarge isn't released yet. |
| 13:41.15 | xtension | try this in centericq : sisosisosisosiosiso |
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| 13:41.28 | radicchio | Anthro, didn't read. I'm just a new in IRC-chatting. |
| 13:41.33 | Azar | jm_ right I just saw that, well Woody was sweet to me I feel sorry to see it fading but sigh, Sarge has more support for hardware |
| 13:41.36 | Guerin | woody is supported for 12 months beyond sarge's release, as well |
| 13:41.44 | PeTeRB | xtension: Why? |
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| 13:41.54 | jm_ | Azar: there should still be DSA-s for Woody |
| 13:41.57 | Azar | r6 is just an apt-get update/upgrade away |
| 13:42.14 | xtension | nothing serious |
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| 13:42.30 | abrotman | Azar: not an upgrade ... security/massive bug fix release |
| 13:42.37 | gnube | Apropos Woody and Sarge, might someone clearly explain what the pending release of Sargbe means? |
| 13:42.42 | abrotman | Azar: most of which you've already gotten if you run woody |
| 13:42.44 | Solet-deb | is it radeon or nv that linux suports? i remember that linux doesnt play well with one but i cant remember which |
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| 13:42.49 | gnube | Does it mean that Sarge is stable? |
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| 13:43.03 | PeTeRB | gnube: Not yet |
| 13:43.04 | StuckMojo | anyone know how to set the default browser in debian? |
| 13:43.07 | abrotman | gnube: it means Sarge is about to be released as "stable" .. |
| 13:43.13 | gnube | And if I run Woody I have to upgrade within 12 months to get security updates and such? |
| 13:43.16 | Azar | Debian Planet wrote last month that May 30 should have been the Sarge release date |
| 13:43.18 | asg | gnube: sarge is scheduled to be released as stable on the 6th of this month. This may not happen but that's the plan. |
| 13:43.21 | abrotman | StuckMojo: update-alternatives |
| 13:43.24 | juanmals | Does anyone know where to fin info about modifying Sarge installer? |
| 13:43.24 | StuckMojo | i have gnome set to use firefox, but |
| 13:43.28 | StuckMojo | abrotman thanks |
| 13:43.34 | Solet-deb | ~sarge-ttl |
| 13:43.35 | Solet | Sarge is expected to be released in: 3days 15hrs 11mins 37secs |
| 13:43.35 | paulswm | gnube: Yes, and there is plenty of information about releases and policy on the *gasp* Debian Web Site |
| 13:43.37 | asg | juanmals: joey hess has a howto |
| 13:43.43 | gnube | asg I though I saw in DWN that it has been delayed a week |
| 13:43.47 | Azar | nice |
| 13:43.54 | asg | gnube: yes, from the 30th of may to the 6th of june |
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| 13:44.06 | bush | of 2012 |
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| 13:44.15 | Azar | bush: booo |
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| 13:44.19 | Solet-deb | bush, not cool |
| 13:44.22 | shizz | does xfce come within the "apt-get" ? |
| 13:44.25 | radicchio | StuckMojo, in Firefox you can set it in its settings dialog directly. |
| 13:44.30 | shingouz | shizz: yes |
| 13:44.41 | shizz | shingouz, is there a certain mirror I need? |
| 13:44.43 | shingouz | !tell shizz about search |
| 13:44.48 | bush | the delays irk me a bit, but id rather have a working stable than something people are going to bitch about |
| 13:44.50 | sohn | shizz: yes |
| 13:44.52 | Guerin | gnube: grab the .deb of that package and run ar -x on it; then tar zxf on the resulting control.gz, then less control |
| 13:45.16 | gnube | Guerin, Thanks will do |
| 13:45.19 | Azar | basically I see Sarge already released after I upgraded, it also has the security source working, the only thing left there to see is the official CD out |
| 13:45.28 | Guerin | no, xfce4 is in plain debian |
| 13:45.37 | shingouz | shizz: what you can find with apt-cache search is what you can apt-get in place from the mirrors you have in sources.list |
| 13:45.42 | StuckMojo | abrotman did the trick, thanks much |
| 13:45.51 | abrotman | StuckMojo: np |
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| 13:46.22 | shizz | shingouz, thank you for clarifying, i was about to ask. |
| 13:46.32 | [bathat] | does anyone know where gnome saves session configurations to? |
| 13:46.53 | jm_ | [bathat]: /msg dpkg anyone |
| 13:46.53 | [bathat] | ie: the checkbox on the logout screen |
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| 13:47.26 | juanmals | asg where can I fin the howto? |
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| 13:47.49 | radicchio | [bathat], see in ~/.gnome2/session |
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| 13:47.55 | [bathat] | ah ok |
| 13:47.56 | [bathat] | thanks |
| 13:48.03 | gromf | hello everybody ! |
| 13:48.08 | Solet-deb | i'm looking at dual head pci video cards.... which is suggested, CHAINTECH GeForce4 MX4000 (42bux) or SAPPHIRE 10094SL Radeon 7000 (36bux) |
| 13:48.12 | PeTeRB | !tell juanmals about fgi |
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| 13:48.38 | juanmals | PeTeRB, lammer |
| 13:48.42 | abrotman | Marticus: backports.org |
| 13:48.44 | abrotman | or something like that |
| 13:48.48 | abrotman | !tell Marticus about backports |
| 13:49.00 | tralala | !moron juanmals |
| 13:49.00 | [bathat] | radicchio: there is no such directory |
| 13:49.02 | dpkg | juanmals: You are moron #12 |
| 13:49.08 | shizz | shingouz, if I type "apt-get install xfce4" will it download all the appropriate files? |
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| 13:49.22 | [bathat] | nvm |
| 13:49.24 | [bathat] | sorry |
| 13:49.34 | shizz | shingouz, or will I have to go through and get seperate ones individually? |
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| 13:49.40 | shingouz | shizz: it should |
| 13:49.48 | radicchio | [bathat], in you home directory (~), if you are using GNOME 2. |
| 13:49.49 | shingouz | shizz: man apt-get |
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| 13:49.57 | K_Dallas | su |
| 13:49.58 | shizz | thank you |
| 13:49.59 | K_Dallas | as4en!be |
| 13:50.03 | Marticus | apt-get.org doesn't have the most recent |
| 13:50.05 | jm_ | K_Dallas: thanks |
| 13:50.15 | abrotman | K_Dallas: you're joking .. right ? |
| 13:50.17 | K_Dallas | lol |
| 13:50.18 | ircdevil | argh - i have a problem with makebst. it generates bst files that skips the second initial of an author - i want to check for bugs - so which package provides makebst? |
| 13:50.20 | K_Dallas | sure ;) |
| 13:50.32 | K_Dallas | so how many more bugs left? |
| 13:50.33 | Marticus | and neither did backports have 2.0.54 |
| 13:50.37 | abrotman | !bugs |
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| 13:50.41 | dpkg | error: could not parse |
| 13:50.49 | abrotman | K_Dallas: bugs.debian.org/release-critical |
| 13:50.54 | K_Dallas | thanks |
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| 13:51.23 | ircdevil | !makebst |
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| 13:53.17 | shizz | shingouz, another question - once I do the apt-get and it says "setting up blabla" does that mean it has installed it as well as downloaded it? |
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| 13:54.41 | radicchio | shizz, yes. If there ara no any errors. |
| 13:54.59 | gromf | Has someone an ICH6M sata controller ? |
| 13:55.07 | abrotman | not supported afaik |
| 13:55.09 | shizz | seems error free, thanks radicchio |
| 13:55.11 | Mage\work | gromf: yes |
| 13:55.35 | Solet-deb | damnit the mx4000 has a fan on the gpu........ that cant be... my box is to be silent |
| 13:55.56 | abrotman | Solet-deb: get a Dual Head S3 .. |
| 13:56.02 | Solet-deb | link? |
| 13:56.04 | gromf | Mage\work: does it work well ? |
| 13:56.12 | Mage\work | yes |
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| 13:56.17 | shizz | holy shit. |
| 13:56.20 | abrotman | !s3 |
| 13:56.20 | dpkg | Tried, tested, and reliable cards.</sarcasm>, or <abrotman> the cards suck ..bad .. like waking up next to your mother after a hard night of drinking <pipeline> I disagree. ... It's more like coming-to ON TOP of your mother. |
| 13:56.22 | shizz | xfce is much much faster |
| 13:56.26 | radicchio | shizz, if there are some errors, you'll try to run apt-get --configure --pending |
| 13:56.31 | gromf | Mage\work: is it on a laptop ? |
| 13:56.35 | Mage\work | no |
| 13:56.38 | abrotman | Solet-deb: it was a joke |
| 13:56.53 | shizz | radicchio, does that allow me to go page by page? |
| 13:56.55 | Mage\work | 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03) |
| 13:56.55 | Solet-deb | jackass |
| 13:56.58 | Mage\work | 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FR/FRW (ICH6R/ICH6RW) SATA Controller (rev 03) |
| 13:57.02 | Solet-deb | i'm too asleep for jokes |
| 13:57.02 | gromf | Mage\work: what's your hard drive speed ? |
| 13:57.09 | abrotman | Solet-deb: only a few people make dual head .. nvidia,ati,matrox |
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| 13:57.20 | Solet-deb | yeah... |
| 13:57.26 | abrotman | Solet-deb: matrox makes .. quad head .. maybe oct-head cards |
| 13:57.37 | Mage\work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.39 | Solet-deb | i have it down to CHAINTECH GeForce4 MX4000 (42bux) or SAPPHIRE 10094SL Radeon 7000 (36bux) |
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| 13:57.52 | Solet-deb | except the chaintech has a fan on the gpu |
| 13:58.01 | abrotman | i vote for matrox :) |
| 13:58.07 | Solet-deb | matrox quad = a lot of money |
| 13:58.08 | gromf | Mage\work: ok.... I am at 1.74 Mb/s.... |
| 13:58.18 | abrotman | Solet-deb: so what? ... it's way worth it .. :) |
| 13:58.18 | radicchio | shizz, if you are using particular terminal (e.g., xterm, konsole or gterm). |
| 13:58.19 | Mage\work | gromf: you have a problem. :p |
| 13:58.19 | Solet-deb | i dont have 500 bux to drop on one card |
| 13:58.28 | Solet-deb | i dont need that kind of quality per monitor |
| 13:58.29 | gromf | Mage\work: indeed... |
| 13:58.30 | tralala | I have an asus radeon 9250. No fan or whatever |
| 13:58.44 | Solet-deb | this is office environment, no gaming or graphic intensive traffic at all |
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| 13:58.52 | jethro | !irritate tralala |
| 13:58.53 | dpkg | tralala: hi every1 who uses gnome kk |
| 13:58.53 | tralala | It has a heatsink though |
| 13:58.55 | abrotman | Solet-deb: so get an old matrox G450 .. probably can be had for like $30 |
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| 13:59.08 | oklinux | hey guy |
| 13:59.09 | tralala | jethro: nice to see you too :) |
| 13:59.14 | jethro | tralala: :) |
| 13:59.15 | oklinux | woody is out |
| 13:59.18 | abrotman | yay |
| 13:59.23 | jethro | oklinux: it's been 3 years now |
| 13:59.24 | abrotman | i'm gonna get me a woody!!! |
| 13:59.51 | tralala | is woody *really* out! that r0x! |
| 13:59.51 | jethro | abrotman: wait until slink releases! |
| 13:59.58 | abrotman | jethro: that's just gross |
| 14:00.00 | abrotman | :) |
| 14:00.06 | jethro | :) |
| 14:00.09 | gromf | Mage\work: did you make something special to get your sata drive working well ? |
| 14:00.31 | Mage\work | gromf: nothing special .. |
| 14:00.39 | Solet-deb | abrot thats just a dual tho isnt it? |
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| 14:00.44 | gromf | Mage\work: what's your distro and kernel ? |
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| 14:00.51 | zimnyx | what p2p software would you recommend me? i'have been using mldonkey, but it's very bandwidth and cpu greedy, and quite slow. |
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| 14:01.07 | sobersabre | guys, as u know i am still using nis |
| 14:01.09 | abrotman | zimnyx: it depends on your needs. . but this isn't #warez |
| 14:01.13 | abrotman | !u |
| 14:01.13 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 14:01.18 | jethro | zimnyx: quit doing p2p before the feds catch you |
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| 14:01.23 | tralala | gromf: given the channel name you would guess it's debian |
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| 14:01.29 | Mage\work | gromf: debian testing 2.6.11.6 |
| 14:01.30 | Solet-deb | abrotman: thats just a dual tho isnt it? |
| 14:01.32 | The_Walrus | hi |
| 14:01.35 | zimnyx | jethro: i'm in poland. |
| 14:01.42 | The_Walrus | anyone has installed xorg using apt? |
| 14:01.43 | gromf | tralala: yes but it may be a derivate... |
| 14:01.46 | sobersabre | now... i got the problem with changing user passwords by users. |
| 14:01.47 | jethro | zimnyx: so what? you have no rules there? |
| 14:01.49 | mooded | somebody knows where one can get working modules for a Marvell 88E8053 network-card ? |
| 14:01.51 | gromf | tralala: or a special kernel |
| 14:01.53 | jm_ | zimnyx: maybe try torrent (bittorrent, bittornado, rtorrent, ...) |
| 14:01.56 | abrotman | Solet-deb: yes .. but isn't that what you want? |
| 14:02.05 | abrotman | The_Walrus: not in ddebian ... |
| 14:02.09 | Mage\work | gromf: do you checked scsi support in your kernel ? |
| 14:02.09 | zimnyx | jethro: forget it ok? it's my risk. |
| 14:02.09 | tralala | gromf: derivates are *not* discussed here |
| 14:02.11 | The_Walrus | :-( |
| 14:02.13 | Solet-deb | if i buy a matrox i'm gonna get a quad...... |
| 14:02.22 | sobersabre | i get errors on client machine only. noting on master server. |
| 14:02.28 | Solet-deb | i'm gonna have 9 monitors by the time i'm done |
| 14:02.29 | abrotman | The_Walrus: /msg dpkg xorg |
| 14:02.30 | jethro | zimnyx: /msg dpkg search then and happy jailing |
| 14:03.03 | gnube | zimnyx, The FEDS will get you overseas too, they just got a kid here in Sweden |
| 14:03.07 | The_Walrus | thanks |
| 14:03.07 | zimnyx | jethro: are you form universal music or what? |
| 14:03.21 | jethro | zimnyx: yes |
| 14:03.22 | abrotman | zimnyx: what country are you from? |
| 14:03.27 | zimnyx | Poland. |
| 14:03.28 | jethro | abrotman: he said .pl |
| 14:03.31 | abrotman | oh |
| 14:03.35 | tralala | zimnyx: all of us are! And be aware - you're in our logs now! |
| 14:03.36 | abrotman | maybe they don't care |
| 14:03.44 | abrotman | !log zimnyx |
| 14:03.49 | zimnyx | i like logs. |
| 14:03.49 | tralala | :) |
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| 14:04.08 | gromf | tralala: ok.... excuse me... |
| 14:04.21 | gromf | Mage\work: could you explain ? |
| 14:04.36 | zimnyx | !unlog -all --burn-feds-pcs |
| 14:04.38 | masoft | There isn't man page for C++ functions in Debian ? |
| 14:04.57 | Mage\work | gromf: you have to compile SCSI Support (SCSI DISK) in your kernel to get SATA support |
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| 14:05.11 | tralala | yesterday I fucked up my laptop trying to do a really shitty kernel install |
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| 14:05.32 | gromf | Mage\work: it's not in the debian base kernel ? |
| 14:05.32 | tralala | now I'll have to play with it for a hole day to have it restored |
| 14:05.44 | Mage\work | gromf: no |
| 14:05.44 | Solet-deb | tralala: you deserve it for making fun of me when i cant figure crap out on my own |
| 14:05.46 | Solet-deb | :P |
| 14:05.54 | radicchio | masoft, yes. Install dcc-3.3-doc package. |
| 14:06.08 | Mage\work | gromf: if you haven't compile your kernel... it's normal that it doesn't work. |
| 14:06.21 | gromf | Mage\work: okay, I will reinstall a brand new debian and recompile a kernel... |
| 14:06.36 | Mage\work | it's not necesseraray to reinstall |
| 14:06.44 | Mage\work | s/necesseraray/necessary |
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| 14:06.57 | Mage\work | just grab a new kernel and compile it |
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| 14:07.09 | tralala | Solet-deb: bah, I agree that I deserved it... but because this laptop is running a very pervert setup (reiserfs on lvm). Have I been making fun of you?! |
| 14:07.11 | gromf | Mage\work: sure, but I have done so much tests on my actual... |
| 14:07.23 | masoft | radicchio, I have not this package ! I use Sarge |
| 14:07.39 | Solet-deb | not lately but you had your fun the night i trtied to get samba working |
| 14:08.18 | radicchio | masoft, maybe simply gcc-doc. |
| 14:08.27 | tralala | Solet-deb: Ah, are you the one who couldn't even use webmin? |
| 14:08.36 | Solet-deb | hush you |
| 14:08.45 | Solet-deb | webmin = retarded |
| 14:08.55 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 14:08.55 | dpkg | webmin is probably a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 14:08.56 | Solet-deb | and i even have smart people in here to back me up on that |
| 14:08.58 | tarzeau | hi abrotman, takatumi |
| 14:09.08 | abrotman | tarzeau: no .. no bub-n-bros! |
| 14:09.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: lol |
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| 14:09.29 | jethro | Solet-deb: you're so webmin! |
| 14:09.35 | tralala | bah, I don't give a shit about what dpkg thinks of webmin (he's been brainwashed, ya know). |
| 14:09.36 | Solet-deb | anyway i'm off to work |
| 14:09.45 | Solet-deb | lol @ brainwashed |
| 14:09.52 | abrotman | are you serious? |
| 14:09.55 | abrotman | !tell ralf about away |
| 14:10.03 | tarzeau | dpkg gender |
| 14:10.03 | dpkg | I'm sexless |
| 14:10.08 | _demoncat_ | any way to make kerberos listen on tcp? |
| 14:10.09 | Solet-deb | tralala: you've been brainwashed too.... just the water was dirty when they did you |
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| 14:10.30 | gromf | Mage\work: must I compile a vanilla kernel ? |
| 14:10.37 | abrotman | chocolate! |
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| 14:10.51 | Mage\work | gromf: depends. |
| 14:10.59 | tralala | Solet-deb: hah! I never thought someone would guess it! |
| 14:11.02 | Solet-deb | <dpkg> I'm sexless..... wow that means that dpkg gets laid even less than guerin..... thats crazy shit.... didnt think it was possable :P |
| 14:11.18 | abrotman | Solet-deb: work? |
| 14:11.26 | Mage\work | grap: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.11.11.tar.bz2 and compile it |
| 14:12.05 | abrotman | i always knew he was an idiot |
| 14:12.24 | asg | tralala: feel free to do it in #webmin-flamewar |
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| 14:12.55 | tralala | Everyone who doesn't know how to tweak config files should use webmin (or an similar replacement) |
| 14:13.06 | abrotman | tralala: or freaking learn? |
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| 14:13.13 | spoonman2 | hmm how do i stop bash from maintaining a history. |
| 14:13.26 | asg | spoonman2: set HISTSIZE=0 |
| 14:13.27 | abrotman | export ? |
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| 14:13.37 | spoonman2 | asg, :) |
| 14:13.38 | gnube | who is dondelelcaro? |
| 14:13.39 | asg | spoonman2: man bash for more details |
| 14:13.40 | jethro | spoonman2: unset HISTFILE |
| 14:13.48 | jethro | spoonman2: also unset SAVEHIST |
| 14:13.48 | asg | gnube: the nice guy who maintains our dpkg bot |
| 14:13.48 | tralala | abrotman: that would really depend on the purpose |
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| 14:14.02 | abrotman | gnube: an op here .. why ? |
| 14:14.05 | petemc | spoonman2: it boggles the mind why you would want that |
| 14:14.06 | jethro | spoonman2: why would you want that ? cracking someone else's account? |
| 14:14.14 | tarzeau | !make-kpkg |
| 14:14.15 | dpkg | from memory, make-kpkg is the Debian Way (tm) to deal with kernel compiling - it makes a package for your Kustom Kernel (tm) which you can install/remove easily (tm) with the dpkg (pat. pend.) mechanisms. 'apt-get install kernel-package' then 'man make-kpkg' =), or see also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html, or cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && fakeroot make-kpkg clean kernel_headers kernel_image && cd /usr/src && sudo dpkg ... |
| 14:14.15 | jethro | petemc: same here |
| 14:14.18 | abrotman | petemc: "security" :) |
| 14:14.21 | gnube | dondelelcaro is funny |
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| 14:14.42 | gnube | I love dpkg quotes |
| 14:14.51 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 14:14.52 | dpkg | well, qotd10 is <helix> I just bang on the keyboard like a retarded monkey |
| 14:15.22 | PeTeRB | That's what I do when playing bub-n-bros |
| 14:15.31 | mtf8 | hello everyone |
| 14:15.33 | spoonman2 | jethro, no. its a shared box ... |
| 14:15.43 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: hehe, and you're even better than abrotman and jethro together! |
| 14:15.45 | abrotman | !punish the stupid fucking machine that won't boot |
| 14:15.53 | The_Walrus | will xorg ready for debian before xmas? |
| 14:15.55 | gromf | Mage\work: ok I'll do that... |
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| 14:15.57 | abrotman | LoonaTick|afk: turn that shit off |
| 14:15.58 | PeTeRB | spoonman2: Make seperate accounts? |
| 14:16.04 | asg | The_Walrus: possibly |
| 14:16.06 | tarzeau | The_Walrus: probably |
| 14:16.14 | mtf8 | I'm trying to apt-get source samba in order to obtain the source code and apt can not find a source package for samba |
| 14:16.14 | gromf | Mage\work: could you tell me what options I must check for SCSI ? |
| 14:16.20 | The_Walrus | i hope so... |
| 14:16.21 | luulis | The_Walrus: it will probably go to unstable pretty soon after sarge is released i guess |
| 14:16.24 | spoonman2 | PeTeRB, im disabling history for root. |
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| 14:16.32 | jethro | spoonman2: so what? getting rid of history is *also* a way to prevent admins from knowing what you do |
| 14:16.33 | tarzeau | mtf8: what's your apt/sources.list ? |
| 14:16.43 | jethro | spoonman2: on the shared system I administer, the history is append only |
| 14:16.43 | tarzeau | mtf8: something like, what i have? telnet linuks.mine.nu |
| 14:17.01 | Mage\work | gromf: scsi disk and sata support |
| 14:17.11 | Mage\work | compiled in, not in module. |
| 14:17.19 | spoonman2 | jethro, this is what i want to so. if someone else does a su- she should not be able to see what i was doing |
| 14:17.24 | gromf | Mage\work: ok... thanks a lot |
| 14:17.35 | mtf8 | tarzeau, oh wow. I don't have a deb-src entry in /etc/apt/sources.list. Sorry about that oversight |
| 14:17.36 | tralala | jethro: that wouldn't stop one from hiding his own commands |
| 14:17.37 | _demoncat_ | is there an utility to send udp datagrams and print the replies? |
| 14:17.41 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 14:17.51 | asg | _demoncat_: netcat probably |
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| 14:18.29 | jethro | tralala: a couple of env variables are read only too |
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| 14:18.38 | spoonman2 | jethro, i trust people with su access to not do stupid things. its just that they should have their privacy to do what they do. |
| 14:18.39 | tbbw_ | !crontab |
| 14:18.39 | dpkg | format: min, hour, day of month, month, day of week, command. or see cron, or see crontab demystified |
| 14:18.49 | abrotman | !rootsmite spoonman2 |
| 14:18.55 | tralala | ah, now *thit* could do the trick |
| 14:18.58 | jethro | spoonman2: hiding things from root isn't good |
| 14:18.59 | tbbw_ | hmmz.. |
| 14:19.01 | asg | spoonman2: there shouldn't be any privacy as root |
| 14:19.09 | spoonman2 | abrotman, there aint one ... i use sudo. |
| 14:19.17 | abrotman | aint? |
| 14:19.24 | tbbw_ | how do i make a user prosess like a bnc to start at server bootup? ( a non root user ) ? |
| 14:19.48 | spoonman2 | asg, http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=aint |
| 14:19.52 | asg | tbbw_: use /etc/init.d/ scripts, man start-stop-daemon to give it the right uid |
| 14:19.54 | tarzeau | tbbw_: autoexec.bat in /etc/init.d calling screen -dmS |
| 14:19.54 | abrotman | erm .. is there some crap with large drives and old bioses ? |
| 14:20.10 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes, all i386 suck |
| 14:20.10 | tbbw_ | tarzeau: lol ;) |
| 14:20.18 | asg | spoonman2: I know what it means, abrotman was the one who asked. |
| 14:20.21 | tbbw_ | asg: ty :) |
| 14:20.37 | asg | tbbw_: there is an example script in /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 14:20.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: no . i'm serious .. this machine won't boot off this damn drive |
| 14:20.45 | spoonman2 | jethro, ok, i get the point ... but i want to do it. just as an experiment . |
| 14:20.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: size? |
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| 14:20.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: 400GB ? |
| 14:20.59 | tbbw_ | asg: ty ill look on it :) |
| 14:21.03 | coywolf | any tools can lock console? |
| 14:21.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: no .. maybe 20GB |
| 14:21.07 | spoonman2 | asg, bad nick completion. my apologies. |
| 14:21.08 | tarzeau | abrotman: haha, i had the same problem with a 250 gb disk |
| 14:21.17 | asg | coywolf: vlock |
| 14:21.17 | tarzeau | abrotman: well first partition, where /boot and / are? |
| 14:21.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: gonna check mr. bios |
| 14:21.23 | coywolf | any tools can lock console? there're at least 3, i forget one of them. |
| 14:21.26 | coywolf | any tools can lock console? there're at least 3, i forget one of them. asg |
| 14:21.28 | abrotman | tarzeau: not linux .. just general hardware .. won't boot :) |
| 14:21.29 | asg | coywolf: vlock |
| 14:21.35 | tarzeau | abrotman: all mr. bios suck the cock of mr. open boot prom |
| 14:21.35 | coywolf | asg, what else |
| 14:21.40 | coywolf | asg, there're 3 |
| 14:21.45 | abrotman | tarzeau: ermm .. fuck .. i think it's 200GB |
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| 14:21.55 | asg | coywolf: lockvc |
| 14:22.00 | jethro | spoonman2: you shouldn't. as to how you'd do it, you already got a few answers |
| 14:22.05 | coywolf | asg, what's 3rd |
| 14:22.07 | tarzeau | coywolf: screen can |
| 14:22.10 | tarzeau | coywolf: ctrl-a x |
| 14:22.12 | asg | coywolf: not a clue |
| 14:22.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: grub? lilo? |
| 14:22.20 | coywolf | tarzeau, not screen |
| 14:22.26 | abrotman | tarzeau: nt bootloader :) |
| 14:22.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: doesn't matte r.. doesn't even see the bootloader |
| 14:23.16 | abrotman | tarzeau: bios date .. 09/04/1998 :) |
| 14:23.20 | tarzeau | abrotman: lol |
| 14:23.36 | coywolf | tarzeau, still one, i forget the name |
| 14:23.37 | tarzeau | abrotman: video? scsi? nic? can i have ree romdumps? |
| 14:23.41 | coywolf | tarzeau, i used to use it |
| 14:23.42 | jethro | :bofhsmite me |
| 14:23.47 | tarzeau | coywolf: i use screen |
| 14:23.52 | abrotman | tarzeau: geforce4 |
| 14:23.57 | abrotman | tarzeau: LBA wins again! |
| 14:24.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: nic isn't that old either .. |
| 14:24.24 | abrotman | tarzeau: but if you really want .. i've got a PB PoS in the corner of the office somewhere :) |
| 14:24.36 | tarzeau | abrotman: yeah would be cool |
| 14:24.55 | abrotman | tarzeau: nothing works right on it .. except the NIC :) |
| 14:25.56 | abrotman | tarzeau: iirc .. it's either a butcherd CL card .. or S3 |
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| 14:26.31 | Guerin | Solet-deb: I get laid plenty. More than you, I wager... |
| 14:26.47 | Guerin | but not more than dpkg, though, who gets to fuck like a bunny in heat with a glass dildo |
| 14:27.07 | abrotman | !fuck Guerin |
| 14:27.15 | abrotman | both got laid! |
| 14:27.18 | Talnakh | guerin,u are really sexually frustrated guy. |
| 14:27.18 | shingouz | abrotman: what on earth are you trying to make to boot? |
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| 14:27.30 | abrotman | shingouz: celeron 266 i think |
| 14:27.38 | abrotman | Talnakh: /msg dpkg u |
| 14:27.49 | Guerin | Talnakh: how would you know? |
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| 14:27.51 | abrotman | shingouz: LBA got it going .. the old primary was only 3GB |
| 14:27.55 | Guerin | Talnakh: Deb, is that you? |
| 14:27.59 | shingouz | abrotman: k |
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| 14:28.13 | Guerin | no, can't be .... she's mopping the kitchen floor right now... |
| 14:28.30 | abrotman | shingouz: it's still a piece of crap .. 384MB .. GeForce4 .. 56x CDROM .. 200GB drive .. PII-233 Celeron |
| 14:28.30 | Talnakh | guerin, i am no one you know, and you sound like frustrated guy. |
| 14:28.33 | abrotman | woohoo!!!!!!! |
| 14:28.41 | Guerin | Talnakh: shows what you know. |
| 14:28.47 | Guerin | Talnakh: why, out of curiosity? |
| 14:29.06 | shingouz | abrotman: a P2 Celery is impossible :) |
| 14:29.10 | abrotman | Guerin: it's obviously the tone in your voice |
| 14:29.15 | abrotman | shingouz: you know what i meant damn it! |
| 14:29.20 | shingouz | :) |
| 14:29.21 | abrotman | shingouz: PII era .. Celeron |
| 14:29.28 | abrotman | err .. and it's 266 anyways |
| 14:29.30 | Talnakh | cause most guys who get laid are not very worried about it and do not make much fuss about it. |
| 14:29.34 | Guerin | clearly :) |
| 14:29.51 | abrotman | Talnakh: you're the one stressing about Guerin's sex life |
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| 14:30.01 | Guerin | Talnakh: i don't, though. |
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| 14:30.09 | abrotman | wait .. why am i talking about guerin's sex life? |
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| 14:30.34 | Talnakh | i don't feel like stressing anything, guerin started first |
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| 14:31.00 | Guerin | Talnakh: give over. there's this thing called a 'running joke' |
| 14:31.12 | abrotman | !qotd101 |
| 14:31.12 | dpkg | methinks qotd101 is <nvz> abrotman: nope.. just wakin up and seeing Guerin thats all |
| 14:31.21 | Guerin | !qotd1 |
| 14:31.21 | dpkg | <Guerin> heh, I have a wife who, when not doing it herself, makes me do it |
| 14:31.27 | Guerin | it's an OLD joke |
| 14:31.36 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 14:31.36 | dpkg | methinks qotd56 is <PerfDave> scooper: You're running XP on your firewall? <scooper> PerfDave kind of, XP is my desktop, it has the ADSL and shares this with the rest of the network |
| 14:31.38 | Talnakh | ha ha |
| 14:32.10 | abrotman | !flw |
| 14:32.10 | dpkg | hmm... flw1 is <coachz> i don't need no stinking docs |
| 14:32.11 | tarzeau | read them all (qotd*) at http://gimp.shacknet.nu/code/debian/debian-irc.fortune |
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| 14:33.15 | Guerin | !tell tarzeau about fold |
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| 14:33.55 | tarzeau | Guerin: don't tell me |
| 14:34.00 | tarzeau | Guerin: i know fold perfectly well |
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| 14:34.05 | abrotman | give me a mountain name(in english) |
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| 14:34.10 | tarzeau | abrotman: rocky |
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| 14:34.17 | abrotman | not a chain |
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| 14:34.19 | abrotman | like Ararat |
| 14:34.32 | abrotman | or Matterhorn |
| 14:34.40 | PeTeRB | K1 ? |
| 14:34.47 | abrotman | for a computer name |
| 14:34.57 | tarzeau | abrotman: Hönggerberg |
| 14:34.59 | Guerin | Kosiusco |
| 14:34.59 | greycat | fuji |
| 14:35.03 | Guerin | Blanc |
| 14:35.04 | greycat | pike's peak |
| 14:35.09 | Guerin | Seorak |
| 14:35.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: Jungfraujoch |
| 14:35.19 | shingouz | kebnekaise |
| 14:35.20 | abrotman | Mt. Guerin's Peak! :) |
| 14:35.22 | Guerin | i'm goint to Seorak mountain on saturday |
| 14:35.27 | greycat | everest |
| 14:35.34 | asg | matterhorn |
| 14:35.34 | shingouz | k2 |
| 14:35.44 | Guerin | Nauruhoe |
| 14:35.45 | shingouz | kilimanjaro |
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| 14:35.49 | Guerin | Tongariro |
| 14:35.52 | Guerin | Aoraki |
| 14:35.53 | asg | magic shell? |
| 14:35.55 | abrotman | ok .. you can stop now :) |
| 14:35.58 | Guerin | there are lots of them |
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| 14:36.10 | Guerin | that should be Ngaruhoe, btw |
| 14:36.12 | Guerin | my bad |
| 14:36.15 | abrotman | Guerin: i live on the east coast .. there aren't :) |
| 14:36.23 | petemc | westsiiiide |
| 14:36.35 | abrotman | mcpete? |
| 14:36.36 | asg | abrotman: there's grandfather mt. in the appalachians |
| 14:36.37 | spoopin | asg: :) |
| 14:36.42 | petemc | heh |
| 14:36.43 | asg | spoopin: how's it going? |
| 14:36.46 | abrotman | asg: also mount washington etc .. |
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| 14:37.22 | paulswm | No mountains in central Florida, if I stand on tip toe I can see Mimami :P |
| 14:37.29 | paulswm | or Miami even |
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| 14:37.48 | nz17 | What is the /dev naming convention for SATA drives? |
| 14:37.59 | abrotman | /dev/sd? |
| 14:38.20 | abrotman | paulswm: Mianus is in CT :) |
| 14:38.23 | greycat | nz17: it's kernel version specific. |
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| 14:38.44 | nz17 | Really? Huh... could you specify for both 2.6 and 2.4 greycat? |
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| 14:39.47 | paulswm | abrotman: I lived in Samford for a while, nice place but too gentrified-country-clubby for my taste, at least where I was living. |
| 14:39.50 | paulswm | Stamford |
| 14:40.01 | abrotman | paulswm: there are worse places .. like hartford |
| 14:40.14 | paulswm | abrotman: No shit |
| 14:40.38 | asg | abrotman: or Danbury |
| 14:40.49 | abrotman | asg: no .. hartford wins .. hands down :) |
| 14:40.53 | bob2 | isn't hartford a nuclear dump? |
| 14:41.07 | asg | abrotman: yes but Danbury was rather pathetic when I was there last. |
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| 14:41.36 | abrotman | bob2: kind of .. but they let people live there |
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| 14:41.45 | abrotman | bob2: think .."Escape from LA" kind of thing |
| 14:41.50 | abrotman | or New York |
| 14:41.52 | paulswm | Bridgeport si teh suck also IIRC |
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| 14:42.17 | abrotman | !qotd34 |
| 14:42.18 | dpkg | qotd34 is, like, <voltagex> how can I enable syntax highlighting in nano? |
| 14:42.19 | bob2 | new york city seems cool |
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| 14:42.21 | bob2 | to visit, anyway |
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| 14:42.27 | abrotman | PeTeRB: because it doesn't have any :) |
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| 14:42.30 | asg | PeTeRB: yes it is |
| 14:42.35 | gboyce | hey folks. now that sarge is being released soon, is there any sort of official policy on how long woody will keep getting updates? |
| 14:42.42 | asg | gboyce: 12 months |
| 14:42.45 | abrotman | gboyce: about a year |
| 14:43.02 | gboyce | ok good to know. That's what it seemed to be for potato, but I wasn't sure if it was a planned thing |
| 14:43.07 | gboyce | or if that's just how it worked out |
| 14:43.07 | bob2 | gboyce: potato got updates for 18 months, I imagine it will be similar |
| 14:43.25 | PeTeRB | abrotman, asg: What about all the 'color' options in /etc/nanorc ? |
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| 14:43.37 | mtnman | how can i find out the name of a built-in ir port? is it connected to /dev/ttyS1? how can i check this? |
| 14:43.38 | abrotman | PeTeRB: color? nanorc? .. syntax highlighting ? |
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| 14:43.50 | bob2 | mtnman: depends on the hardware |
| 14:43.56 | asg | PeTeRB: good point, were those available in woody? |
| 14:43.56 | bob2 | some don't work as serial ports |
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| 14:44.05 | mtnman | bob2:well, it is a toshiba laptop. |
| 14:44.10 | abrotman | asg: i think nano has color .. but not syntax highlighting |
| 14:44.18 | PeTeRB | abrotman: man nanorc |
| 14:44.26 | abrotman | man nanorc |
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| 14:44.31 | abrotman | doesn't do anything |
| 14:44.39 | abrotman | why is my irc always broked? |
| 14:44.39 | incorrect | is there anything better than swatch for monitoring log files? |
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| 14:44.53 | asg | incorrect: logwatch |
| 14:45.09 | mtnman | bob2: iwconfig lists it as irda0, which is not listed in /dev |
| 14:45.11 | abrotman | tail |
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| 14:45.13 | PeTeRB | abrotman: man nanorc mentions syntax highlighting twice |
| 14:45.47 | abrotman | PeTeRB: on sarge or woody ? |
| 14:45.53 | Marticus | oh ffs |
| 14:45.54 | asg | PeTeRB: also, nano is really meant to be a programmer's editor so syntax highlighting is rather pointless. |
| 14:46.03 | asg | s/is really/isn't really/ |
| 14:46.09 | Azar | ? what about vim? |
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| 14:46.12 | Marticus | whoever this guy is http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~sdier |
| 14:46.13 | elephant | Hi all |
| 14:46.28 | elephant | Does mencoder can do .mov files with jpeg's ? |
| 14:46.30 | Marticus | has package dependencies that can't be unmet |
| 14:46.33 | Azar | I am using vim for learning C |
| 14:46.35 | asg | Marticus: "...Zaphod's just this guy ya know." |
| 14:46.45 | Marticus | libapache2-mod-php4: Depends: php4-common (= 4:4.3.9-0woody1) |
| 14:47.12 | Marticus | if I have a newer version, I am sol |
| 14:47.21 | incorrect | oh no .deb of logwatch :( |
| 14:47.23 | Marticus | unless I can skip the dependency check with apt-get |
| 14:47.35 | tico | hello is there a way to add an image to konsole background? |
| 14:47.44 | abrotman | #debian-kde |
| 14:47.52 | asg | incorrect: woody? |
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| 14:48.01 | abrotman | stop mixing sources |
| 14:48.01 | Azar | tico, feh package but I am not sure if works with Sarge, I used it back when I was in sid |
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| 14:48.54 | PeTeRB | abrotman: It seems that it should be available in woody too |
| 14:48.58 | Marticus | can I skip depends with apt-get ? |
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| 14:49.07 | Marticus | I see nothing in the help |
| 14:49.15 | _demoncat_ | any way to make krb5-kdc bind to 0.0.0.0 instead of a specific ip? |
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| 14:49.36 | Marticus | that sounds scary |
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| 14:50.23 | incorrect | asg, yep woody |
| 14:50.31 | PeTeRB | abrotman: It appeared in Debian in version 1.1.6-1 on Fri, 25 Jan 2002 |
| 14:50.55 | asg | incorrect: you'll need a backport or just want till sarge is stable in a few days and upgrade. |
| 14:51.02 | gnube | incorrect, Yeah, I was told to backport logwatch yeterday |
| 14:51.44 | incorrect | what about logcheck? |
| 14:51.47 | gnube | incorrect, logwatch is a perl script and is pretty easy to run from source though |
| 14:52.01 | gnube | incorrect, no idea |
| 14:53.02 | m4lu7 | Anybody know anything about using X intentionally without a mouse? |
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| 14:53.27 | asg | m4lu7: with the ion window manager, yes. |
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| 14:53.41 | m4lu7 | asg: i'm not using a wm, intentionally |
| 14:53.57 | asg | m4lu7: what, just xinit? |
| 14:54.04 | m4lu7 | yeah, and mozilla |
| 14:54.12 | m4lu7 | uber-locked-down kiosk |
| 14:54.26 | m4lu7 | i've justa dded the AllowMouseFail option, perhaps that'll help |
| 14:54.42 | asg | m4lu7: well, firefox has decent keyboard shortcuts and doesn't require a mouse for most things. |
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| 14:55.02 | m4lu7 | asg: my goal, currently, is to get X to start without a mouse, i don't want the pointer icon visible |
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| 14:55.38 | ice799 | has anyone in here tried to set up software raid0 on debian? it appears that the linux-raid howto is "broken"... |
| 14:55.48 | asg | m4lu7: well, if starting w/o mouse support doesn't hide the cursor with the 'unclutter' package. |
| 14:55.59 | bob2 | ice799: why would you use software raid0? |
| 14:56.20 | m4lu7 | unclutter, eh? |
| 14:56.26 | ice799 | bob2, well its sort of a long story, it would take more time to type and read than you would want to |
| 14:56.28 | m4lu7 | i'll look into that. thanks. |
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| 14:57.18 | ice799 | bob2, so don't mind why -- my question basically comes from the fact that the linux-raid howto says to install raidtools2 and mdadm, but it appears that raidtools2 conflicts with mdadm |
| 14:57.20 | abrotman | ice799: you understand what it means if a drive dies right ? |
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| 14:57.29 | ice799 | abrotman, yes |
| 14:57.40 | abrotman | ice799: justwanted to make sure |
| 14:57.52 | Marticus | ffs I can't get this package installed even with dpkg --force-depends/conflicts |
| 14:57.54 | Talnakh | ice799, it is easy to setup raid0 with sarge installer |
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| 14:58.22 | abrotman | Marticus: --force-overwrite ? |
| 14:58.35 | ice799 | Talnakh, my debian box is already up and running (i'm speaking to you from it now), i would just like to take two devices in /dev and raid0 them |
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| 14:59.08 | ice799 | Talnakh, the linux software raid howto tells me to install two packages, packages which apt says conflict |
| 14:59.24 | abrotman | ice799: so install one of them ? |
| 14:59.25 | Marticus | abrotman: same |
| 14:59.26 | ice799 | i'm just unsure whether to listen to apt or the howto (and force raidtools2) |
| 14:59.28 | joseki | hey all, I'm trying to determine in my drive with reiserfs is taotally dead.. i've ran bad blocks, but I cannot rebuild the sb on the drive, as it seems therer is a bad block in the reiser reserverd portion of the drive. can anyone help me out? |
| 14:59.46 | abrotman | don't use reiser |
| 14:59.55 | ice799 | abrotman, well installing one is fine, i just wont be able to follow a howto -- and i just wanted to make sure it will still "work" |
| 14:59.56 | aFlag | hi, does anyone know a good program for creating SVG graphics? |
| 15:00.09 | ice799 | abrotman, this is my first time doing the software raid thing |
| 15:00.16 | joseki | i don't think you understood my question. I'm trying to recover data from a reiserfs drive. |
| 15:00.35 | Talnakh | ice799, if you have a spre drive, why don't you try to make a raid0 set separately and then you could transfer your install on the raid from hard drive. |
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| 15:00.38 | Marticus | a package depends using =, thus having newer version of those depends will break the install |
| 15:00.44 | Marticus | this is what I am trying to work around |
| 15:00.48 | Marticus | any thoughts? |
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| 15:01.11 | abrotman | Marticus: did you mix sources ? |
| 15:01.12 | ice799 | Talnakh, i'm not trying to transfer my install, i'm not even trying to boot from a raid0 device -- i simply want to raid0 two devices in /dev and mount it |
| 15:01.27 | Marticus | abrotman: I don't follow |
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| 15:01.41 | abrotman | Marticus: which packages conflict ? |
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| 15:02.04 | Marticus | abrotman: libapache2-mod-php4 depends on php4-common (= 4:4.3.9-0woody1); however: Version of php4-common on system is 4:4.3.11-0.dotdeb.0. |
| 15:02.06 | jasoncohen | anyone think that sarge will actually be released on the 6th? The RC bug count seems to be going up, not down. |
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| 15:02.16 | abrotman | Marticus: you mixed sources .. you used dotdeb |
| 15:02.16 | asg | !bobbitt |
| 15:02.17 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. |
| 15:02.30 | Talnakh | jasoncohen, we pray that it will be released. |
| 15:02.39 | Marticus | abrotman: I have been doing this for years, how is it bad? |
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| 15:02.46 | abrotman | jasoncohen: honestly .. i consider that a good thing .. more fixed bugs is good |
| 15:02.47 | Marticus | the guy used = instead of >= |
| 15:02.51 | Talnakh | btw, what is the bug count now? |
| 15:02.53 | abrotman | Marticus: i tihnk you see why it's bad |
| 15:02.55 | karl_ | Can anyone tell me how to change metacity to icewm in gnome |
| 15:03.02 | abrotman | Talnakh: bugs.debian.org/release-critical |
| 15:03.07 | jasoncohen | abrotman, yeah- but can't thsi process go on for weeks? |
| 15:03.10 | Marticus | abrotman: if one source doesn't have the packages I need then Im screwed |
| 15:03.11 | Talnakh | thanks |
| 15:03.12 | abrotman | jasoncohen: it can |
| 15:03.18 | paulswm | !qotd8 |
| 15:03.18 | dpkg | <Michiel1983> dpkg: I have problems with boot for the 2.6.9 kernel, I got a kernel panic:Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,3) On undernet they told me to: go to irc.freenode.net, join #debian and ask dpkg about bobbitt |
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| 15:03.25 | abrotman | Marticus: do you still have the dotdeb line in your sources? |
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| 15:03.45 | Marticus | I usually only have one custom source |
| 15:03.53 | Marticus | and I comment it to enter new ones |
| 15:03.54 | abrotman | is it dotdeb or not ? |
| 15:03.55 | jasoncohen | until sarge is released, testing is frozen which isn't great for us testing users |
| 15:03.57 | ice799 | Talnakh, I'm just looking for a guide on how to set up software raid, and the howto that i found that is the "linux howto" is broken -- any suggestiong on where information can be found? |
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| 15:04.29 | Marticus | so, no, presently only the new source is in use |
| 15:04.29 | abrotman | jasoncohen: more fixed bugs is always good .. just be patient .. it will release |
| 15:04.29 | asg | jasoncohen: that's why you use stable if you worry about such things. |
| 15:04.29 | abrotman | Marticus: add dotdeb back in .. otherwise you're screwed |
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| 15:05.05 | dubian | hello, I've just install and builded alsa-source for my SB Live 24 bit modprobed snd-ca0106 alsaplayer gives good sound but xmms doesn't!! anybody a idea what might be wrong? |
| 15:05.14 | abrotman | Marticus: and the moral of the story .. don't mix sources when using stable |
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| 15:05.26 | Marticus | sigh |
| 15:05.27 | abrotman | dubian: is xmms using the alsa output ? |
| 15:05.33 | paulswm | ice799: Which debian distro are you using? |
| 15:05.33 | Marticus | this is the first time I have had aproblem |
| 15:05.36 | abrotman | Marticus: no sigh .. add dotdeb back in |
| 15:05.41 | Marticus | I did add it back in |
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| 15:05.45 | dubian | abrotman jeaps... |
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| 15:05.52 | Azar | dubian you should tell xmms to use alsa, maybe it is set by default to use oss |
| 15:05.54 | Marticus | and the problem with the package not using >= still exists |
| 15:05.59 | ice799 | paulswm, sid with kernel 2.6.11.10 |
| 15:06.05 | abrotman | dubian: ? |
| 15:06.07 | Marticus | the package I want doesn't exist anywhere else |
| 15:06.31 | abrotman | Marticus: you have to add the dotdeb source back .. `apt-get update;apt-get install <packageyouwant>` |
| 15:06.49 | abrotman | i'm not making this up |
| 15:06.58 | asg | Marticus: then grab the source deb and fix it. If dotdeb doesn't provide source debs, there is nothing you can do except contacting that maintainer. |
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| 15:06.59 | dubian | Azar, abrotman : nope xmms is using alsa it gives sound but crappy sound... |
| 15:07.00 | Marticus | while I understand the need to use only one source for a stable distribution, I don't see the need for a non-cricitcal system |
| 15:07.11 | abrotman | dubian: crappy sound card? |
| 15:07.22 | Marticus | abrotman: did that |
| 15:07.26 | Marticus | asg: done that too |
| 15:07.28 | jasoncohen | Marticus, if it's non-critical, why use stable? |
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| 15:07.42 | jethro | brb |
| 15:07.43 | Azar | dubian go to alsa official site and look for your specific card , there is a workaround/troubleshooting for each specific card |
| 15:07.49 | Marticus | jasoncohen dunno dude, because I like the sound of "stable" and "backports" |
| 15:07.52 | abrotman | or ask #alsa |
| 15:08.01 | Marticus | I've been doing it for years and not once have I had a problem |
| 15:08.02 | dubian | abrotman : most defanatly but alsaplay plays good sound |
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| 15:08.04 | jasoncohen | Marticus, you can use testing and there won't be a need for unofficial sources |
| 15:08.11 | abrotman | but the backports don't get security as quickly as stable .. might as well use testing |
| 15:08.11 | Marticus | I sometimes build my own packages if the source package is available |
| 15:08.22 | abrotman | dubian: ask #xmms maybe ? |
| 15:08.22 | Marticus | but when it isn't I contact the maintainer and hope they listen |
| 15:08.44 | dubian | abrotman, azar: ok thanks I'll try that... |
| 15:08.46 | joseki | ok, so no reisferfs gurus or referals? |
| 15:08.50 | paulswm | ice799: raidtools2 isn't in sid I don't think |
| 15:08.54 | Marticus | jasoncohen: I suppose I could |
| 15:09.15 | paulswm | ice799: raidtools2 is only in woody |
| 15:09.18 | Marticus | jasoncohen: but the word "testing" just doesn't give me the warm fuzzies that "stable" does |
| 15:09.28 | Marticus | I suppose it is silly of me |
| 15:09.34 | Marticus | and I know this |
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| 15:09.36 | greycat | Marticus: then wait a week or so... |
| 15:09.38 | directhex|work | Marticus, "silly" isn't the word |
| 15:09.48 | Marticus | I have been anxiously waiting for the right moment to update |
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| 15:10.12 | Marticus | greycat: hehe, indeed |
| 15:10.15 | Spec | it's all about cowsay |
| 15:10.17 | Spec | !cowsay |
| 15:10.17 | dpkg | hmm... cowsay is a configurable talking cow, or an absolutely vital program for turning text into happy ASCII cows, or at http://www.nog.net/~tony/warez/cowsay.shtml, or what asg uses to combat the evil Outlook(TM) stationary that is sent to him |
| 15:10.21 | Azar | dubian: http://www.alsa-project.org/ |
| 15:10.42 | ice799 | paulswm, you are correct -- however i am wondering how to set up software raid0 --WITHOUT-- raidtools2 (i can always find the package and force apt to install it...) because after installing mdadm, apt says that raidtools2 conflicts -- which is fine i don't care what package i use -- i just would like to read some directions on how to use mdadm to set up software raid |
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| 15:10.59 | junostuff | hallo |
| 15:11.01 | directhex|work | ice799, sarge's installer uses mdadm |
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| 15:11.07 | directhex|work | ice799, if you ask it to, anyway |
| 15:11.19 | Marticus | greycat: I've been waiting a week or so for a year or so *grin* |
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| 15:11.44 | junostuff | can anyone help me at debian problems? |
| 15:11.50 | Marticus | ask your question and see |
| 15:11.58 | junostuff | :-) |
| 15:11.59 | ice799 | directhex|work, yeah i know, but i don't need anything to be installed on a raid partition, my system is up and running and i have a few additional partitions that i would like to combine using raid0 |
| 15:12.19 | gnube | I have found an orphaned package that I am interested in taking over (swedish language documentation) |
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| 15:12.30 | jethro | ice799: cd /usr/share/doc/mdadm/ then read I d say |
| 15:12.37 | gnube | How strong should one's pakage maintaining skills be to take it over? |
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| 15:12.38 | directhex|work | ice799, well mdadm would to the job then, the documentation is fairly rational as long as you don't have udev |
| 15:12.45 | paulswm | ice799: I don't understand why apt would tell you that raidtools2 conflicts when it's not in sid and you haven't installed it |
| 15:12.46 | directhex|work | if you have udev, things get interesting |
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| 15:12.57 | junostuff | I have a dedicated WEbserver with root rights. But i have the problem that i can't set webfiles chmod 777, because the server is in save mode |
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| 15:13.09 | Marticus | I thought there was a way to extract the .deb, make changes, and walk through the process of installing it |
| 15:13.14 | Marticus | or something like that |
| 15:13.16 | jethro | paulswm: Conflicts: mdctl (<< 0.7.2), raidtools2 (<< 1.00.3-12.1) << from apt-cache show mdadm |
| 15:13.21 | junostuff | i have many scripts they need chmod 777 |
| 15:13.25 | Marticus | I recall doing that a couple years ago or so |
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| 15:13.52 | ice799 | paulswm, i installed mdadm, then tried to install raidtools2 which doesn't exist in sid ((i was trying to follow the linux software raid howto)) so i found raidtools2 .deb and downloaded it -- dpkg said it would not be installe dbecause it conflicts with mdadm |
| 15:13.56 | directhex|work | save mode? what distro is this? |
| 15:13.56 | glickinator | excuse me whats a decent mplayer? |
| 15:13.58 | jethro | junostuff: you should NEVER chmod 777 |
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| 15:14.07 | directhex|work | glickinator, mplayer. |
| 15:14.09 | jethro | !lart junostuff for chmod'ing 777 |
| 15:14.09 | ice799 | paulswm, i dont know anything about setting up software raid |
| 15:14.10 | glickinator | besides mplayer i mean whats a decent mpeg player? |
| 15:14.21 | directhex|work | glickinator, gmplayer |
| 15:14.25 | ice799 | paulswm, s o i was trying to follow the linux howto |
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| 15:14.40 | jethro | ice799: are you using sid? |
| 15:14.41 | glickinator | directhex|work, but mplayer isnt in the apt sources |
| 15:14.46 | ice799 | jethro, yes |
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| 15:14.50 | directhex|work | !tell glickinator about marillat |
| 15:14.54 | jasoncohen | glickinator, xine which has various frontends - xine-ui, totem, kaffeine. there's also gmplayer for mplayer |
| 15:14.55 | greycat | glickinator: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 15:14.57 | abrotman | glickinator: which kind of mpeg? |
| 15:14.57 | jethro | ice799: and you need such a handholding? |
| 15:15.05 | jasoncohen | glickinator, get it from marillat |
| 15:15.07 | jethro | !handhold ice799 |
| 15:15.08 | junostuff | when i set 777 in FTP prog. the files are go back to 604 |
| 15:15.10 | abrotman | glickinator: i use totem + win32 codecs from mplayer.hu |
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| 15:15.19 | jasoncohen | http://debian.video.free.fr/ |
| 15:15.24 | ice799 | jethro, i mean i'm sure there was a time when you had not set up software raid either |
| 15:15.26 | jethro | junostuff: only morons chmod 777 |
| 15:15.31 | junostuff | i think its a problem with Apache |
| 15:15.40 | jethro | ice799: I read the documentation when it occured |
| 15:15.44 | abrotman | apache is your ftp server ? |
| 15:15.51 | ice799 | jethro, yeah and so did it, but the documentation is broken |
| 15:15.52 | jasoncohen | glickinator, add "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main" to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:15.55 | jethro | ice799: using sid gives your questions the least priority |
| 15:15.55 | junostuff | no the www server |
| 15:15.56 | ice799 | jethro, which is why i'm asking in here |
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| 15:16.07 | gnube | junostuff, you ftp to your web server? |
| 15:16.11 | ice799 | jethro, being a dick makes you less intelligent. |
| 15:16.23 | junostuff | i cant say this @gnube |
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| 15:16.36 | jethro | ice799: I m not the one clueless though |
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| 15:16.42 | junostuff | its a server from a webhoster |
| 15:16.45 | gnube | junostuff, eh? |
| 15:16.55 | ghatak | Would debian be faster than gentoo on a slow system ? |
| 15:16.57 | gnube | junostuff, so you ftp to it? |
| 15:17.01 | ice799 | jethro, i'm not clueless either i'm just trying to figure out why the software raid howto is broken, and where i can find correct documentationo |
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| 15:17.18 | ico2 | hi |
| 15:17.19 | abrotman | ghatak: more than likely .. yes .. or use the binary gentoo crap .. or ask #gentoo what they think |
| 15:17.27 | jethro | ice799: /usr/share/doc/<package>, as any sid user should know |
| 15:17.35 | paulswm | ice799: Do you think that a debian distro would be missing a package essential to something as important as RAID? The howtos are not always up to date, particularly with regard to unreleased distros. |
| 15:17.43 | glickinator | jasoncohen, is that sources just for those packages that are not in the official testing? |
| 15:17.47 | ico2 | in what package would i find startssl, i did a package contents search on packages.debian.org and an apt-cache search and foind nothing |
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| 15:18.04 | ico2 | the apache2 /etc/init.d thingy misses it |
| 15:18.10 | ghatak | no no i am not interested in gentoo stuff. actually i want to avoid it. my laptop is pretty oldish. and i was just wondering if debian be ok for it |
| 15:18.15 | junostuff | i can give you the SSH for the server |
| 15:18.18 | asg | ico2: did you install libapache-mod-ssl? |
| 15:18.19 | junostuff | @gnube |
| 15:18.22 | ice799 | jethro, hahaha -- your ego is a bit too large |
| 15:18.25 | ico2 | probably not |
| 15:18.35 | jethro | ice799: no, your brain is just a bit too narrow |
| 15:18.45 | shingouz | ghatak: most of the time yes. you need to define oldish though. better yet if you told us what the laptop is |
| 15:18.51 | asg | ico2: then do so and see if that fixes your problem. |
| 15:18.56 | glickinator | are the marillat sources only for those packages which dont make it into the main sources because of patent issues? |
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| 15:19.02 | shingouz | !marillat |
| 15:19.02 | dpkg | somebody said marillat was an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list |
| 15:19.03 | ice799 | jethro, haha thats an interesting comment, mostly because you don't know me |
| 15:19.15 | jethro | !lart ice799 for being yet another clueless sid user |
| 15:19.18 | snadge | does free software have anything remotely equivalent to active directory? |
| 15:19.27 | ghatak | shingouz: it is am ibm thinkpad. 600mhz+128mbram |
| 15:19.28 | asg | snadge: openldap + samba + kerberos |
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| 15:20.04 | ice799 | paulswm, well clearly i do not think a debian distro would be missing an essential package, but i also assumed that online documentation would be kept up to date -- both of these assumptions can be considered "stupid", depending on your point of view... |
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| 15:20.11 | snadge | asg: are there good tools to administer accounts etc using that? |
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| 15:20.20 | dubian | azar, abrotman: ok modified my modultils/alsa-base file but eeehm , modprobe -r tells me it is being used... I've killed alsaplayer and xmms, howto findout what is still using it?? |
| 15:20.22 | shingouz | ghatak: and which one of the many different thinkpads might it be? |
| 15:20.36 | asg | snadge: there are a few probably but the command line tools usually suffice for most people. |
| 15:20.41 | shingouz | ghatak: /msg dpkg laptop |
| 15:21.04 | ghatak | shingouz: to be honest i am that techie. just trying to get my hands on linux. |
| 15:21.13 | paulswm | ice799: the howtos are not debian specific, so where they differ from debian, I would be inclined to trust the distro. Shame you wasted everyone's time by failing to mention that you had obtained raidtools2 from a non-debian source. |
| 15:21.17 | ghatak | i mean not that much techie. |
| 15:21.26 | appaji | ghatak: I run Debian on a laptop |
| 15:21.33 | abrotman | as do i |
| 15:21.38 | appaji | ghatak: IBM ThinkPad R50e |
| 15:21.38 | abrotman | on a TP as a matter of fact |
| 15:21.52 | Anthro | I used readpst to convert a PST file to a recursive tree of mboxes. That's great, but I really need them as maildirs or, alternately, copied via IMAP. There are a lot of them, so I'm looking for an automated way of doing it. Any suggestions. |
| 15:21.53 | Anthro | ? |
| 15:21.55 | asg | s/oh/on/ |
| 15:22.07 | abrotman | mbox2maildir ? |
| 15:22.13 | ghatak | ok i guess i should give it a try to find out :) |
| 15:22.20 | appaji | ghatak: there are a few extra packages that you may need, apt-cache search thinkpad for those :) |
| 15:22.21 | ice799 | paulswm, it was from a debian source |
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| 15:22.28 | abrotman | !d-i ghatak |
| 15:22.29 | dpkg | ghatak, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:22.29 | ghatak | okies |
| 15:22.31 | snadge | asg: i use debian myself.. and would use it for pretty much everything.. however recently i've found myself working for IBM, and supporting companies with tens of thousands of employees.. all these companies seem to use either active directory, or novell.. access control lists are a huge part what they do.. the point im getting to is, free software could save them millions of dollars if it was up to the task. im just wondering if it is |
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| 15:23.05 | paulswm | ice799: Where from? It's not in the fscking sid distro. |
| 15:23.06 | abrotman | snadge: if you need ACL .. that's another step .. but ldap+samba+kerberos does the Auth part |
| 15:23.08 | Anthro | abrotman: That doesn't seem to be a package. Any idea what package it's in? |
| 15:23.08 | asg | snadge: well, RH recently announced they would release Netscape's LDAP server under the GPL |
| 15:23.13 | appaji | ghatak: I would suggest that you download the sarge netinstall CD and start with it. Everything works pretty much out of the box, except the modem. |
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| 15:23.22 | abrotman | Anthro: that's not the exact name |
| 15:23.29 | ghatak | ok one more question. there is an announcement on debian site about an upcomming release. Should i wait for it or just download the current and install it. What do u guys recon ? |
| 15:23.35 | appaji | ghatak: And in case you get stuck, there are plenty of people who run Debian on an IBM TP, who can help you. |
| 15:23.41 | abrotman | !d-i ghatak |
| 15:23.42 | dpkg | ghatak, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:23.43 | appaji | ghatak: just install it righ away. |
| 15:23.45 | abrotman | ghatak: use that one |
| 15:23.45 | dubian | do I actually have to unload a driver and reload for the changes in modutils/alsa-base to take effect or can I just modprobe it again? |
| 15:23.49 | bob2 | ghatak: sarge is not going to change very much before release |
| 15:23.51 | appaji | :s/righ/right/g |
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| 15:24.26 | Anthro | abrotman: mb2md looks promising |
| 15:24.26 | abrotman | Anthro: i thought it was there |
| 15:24.27 | ghatak | okies. thanks all for help |
| 15:24.27 | directhex|work | well, happily si the wrong word, but still, it worked with poking |
| 15:24.42 | abrotman | Anthro: yep .. i think that's it |
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| 15:25.18 | snadge | well.. i've found that active directory is absolutely horrible, it does the job sure.. but the interface is shitty.. also windows is unreliable and comes up with strange errors on an almost daily basis, not to mention the squillions of dollars thats wasted in licensing |
| 15:25.29 | asg | snadge: you might checkout O'Reilly's LDAP Administration book. It covers quite a lot of what you are asking about. |
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| 15:25.48 | jethro | mine will cover ore! |
| 15:25.51 | jethro | more! |
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| 15:26.50 | ice799 | paulswm, by the way, the howto is a bit debian specific as it does include an entire section on how to set it up on a debian box -- maybe *you* should check out the documentation... |
| 15:26.55 | abrotman | snadge: ask check samba.org for docs as well |
| 15:27.01 | asg | snadge: also, you can read their Using Samba 2nd Ed. at www.oreilly.com/openbook (which has some info as well) |
| 15:27.03 | somePriest | I have file sharing setup. About once a week auth fails. I restart samba, auth still fails. I use smbpasswd, I typed in the old password as requested. then for the "new" password I type in the old password again. Then, file sharing auth works again. Anyone seen this before? |
| 15:27.18 | jethro | !tell ice799 -about qotd51 |
| 15:27.28 | appaji | somePriest: /etc/smbpassword may not be synced properly |
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| 15:27.38 | asg | somePriest: no but at a guess, I'd say there is some password lifetime that is being reached and invalidating things. |
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| 15:27.51 | appaji | somePriest: or whereever the smbpassword file is .... |
| 15:27.57 | snadge | i will research that.. if it can be done, i want to pilot a complete linux server and desktop replacement for global services at IBM.. they are VERY interested in doing this, but nobody has the time to implement it and most dismiss it as impossible |
| 15:28.00 | somePriest | asg: I've never explicitly set a password lifetime. how is that done? |
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| 15:28.04 | ice799 | jethro, i could not agree with you more -- too bad you are too stupid to actually understand what i am asking |
| 15:28.07 | paulswm | ice799: I read it. I have no interest in conversing with you further. Perhaps someone esle can help you. |
| 15:28.14 | somePriest | appaji: How do you sync it properly? |
| 15:28.15 | Petaris | Does anyone in hear have experiance useing ircd-hybrid and hybserv? |
| 15:28.19 | asg | somePriest: I don't know if there even is one, it was just a guess. |
| 15:28.26 | somePriest | asg: I see. |
| 15:28.28 | ice799 | paulswm, perhaps. |
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| 15:28.52 | abrotman | perhaps pick one package and use it .. |
| 15:28.58 | paulswm | jethro: good one, qotd51, heh |
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| 15:29.13 | jethro | paulswm: too bad stupid people always take it the other way around |
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| 15:29.25 | appaji | somePriest: It has been over an year since I used samba but IIRC, there is a config option in smb.conf that will allow you to change both the smbpassword as well as the other password. But users have to use smbpassword rather than the plain passwd command. |
| 15:29.49 | appaji | somePriest: And you can also run a script to do some magic when you run smbpasswd. |
| 15:30.01 | paulswm | jethro: You are tres funny |
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| 15:30.12 | jethro | paulswm: merci beaucoup :) |
| 15:30.17 | appaji | !french |
| 15:30.18 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 15:30.20 | appaji | :-P |
| 15:30.22 | asg | snadge: of course, if this is for a Unix only setup, NIS/LDAP + NFS have been used for a long time. |
| 15:30.34 | paulswm | jethro: Mon plaisir :) |
| 15:30.50 | abrotman | eww .. frencies |
| 15:30.53 | abrotman | ch |
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| 15:31.02 | snadge | asg: but it needs to have ACL support.. drives need to be mapped automatically etc on logon.. it must have similar functionality to a windows active directory setup |
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| 15:31.16 | somePriest | appaji: Do you refer to syncing the system and samba password? That is not an issue, they've always been the same on this system. |
| 15:31.19 | abrotman | snadge: ACL is possible .. samba.org sohuld have docs |
| 15:31.28 | abrotman | to at least start you in the right direction |
| 15:31.35 | asg | snadge: ah, okay. |
| 15:31.46 | paulswm | !yinzersmite abrotman |
| 15:31.49 | abrotman | and also tell about logon scripts etc |
| 15:31.55 | somePriest | appaji: eg: My file sharing works now, but in a few days it'll start refusing my auth until I run smbpasswd and specify the same pass I have now. |
| 15:32.01 | snadge | whether its running on windows or linux is irrelevant.. from the employees perspective, it just needs to work in a similar way to what they're used to |
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| 15:32.35 | Petaris | Does anyone in hear have experiance useing ircd-hybrid and hybserv? |
| 15:32.38 | abrotman | snadge: i've told you umpteen times to go to samba.org(or #samba) .. you need to read .. we can't give you a magic bullet |
| 15:32.39 | appaji | somePriest: my experience is from more than 1.5yrs ago, and I don't remember any setting on the server side to control this. But I might be wrong. |
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| 15:32.46 | Lee__ | what's the recommended way for changing the priority of the rc*.d boot scripts? |
| 15:32.47 | abrotman | eww .. i used umpteen |
| 15:32.49 | xLobeznox | hi |
| 15:32.50 | freecraft | hi, can somebody help me with installing of msttcorefonts ? |
| 15:33.03 | asg | freecraft: /msg dpkg font guide |
| 15:33.04 | xLobeznox | I have a warning compiling kernel and it makes radeon driver cant be loaded |
| 15:33.10 | appaji | somePriest: But I strongly suspect there is some windows configuration variable that you can change in the registry to change the 'expiry time'. |
| 15:33.14 | xLobeznox | cat /home/alberto/drm |
| 15:33.21 | xLobeznox | /bin/sh: line 1: /home/alberto/drm: Permiso denegado |
| 15:33.26 | snadge | abrotman, yes.. but my understanding is that samba is generally meant to interact with windows desktops.. the goal is to completely remove windows from the equation ;) |
| 15:33.32 | jethro | Petaris: what is your problem? |
| 15:33.34 | xLobeznox | /home/alberto/drm: line 1: WARNING:: command not found |
| 15:33.34 | xLobeznox | /home/alberto/drm: line 2: WARNING:: command not found |
| 15:33.39 | Lee__ | updating the xLobeznox give yourself write permissions to that folder |
| 15:33.40 | abrotman | snadge: you want linux desktops too? |
| 15:33.43 | xLobeznox | WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.8/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko needs unknown symbol drm_free |
| 15:33.46 | xLobeznox | WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.8/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko needs unknown symbol drm_alloc |
| 15:33.47 | jethro | xLobeznox: don't paste please |
| 15:33.47 | asg | xLobeznox: stop it |
| 15:33.47 | Lee__ | sorry, |
| 15:33.50 | xLobeznox | sorry |
| 15:33.51 | jethro | xLobeznox: use a pastebot |
| 15:33.54 | xLobeznox | jethro: ok |
| 15:34.02 | Petaris | jethro: I ccan't seem to get hybserv to connect to the ircd-hybrid server |
| 15:34.11 | abrotman | snadge: is that correct ? |
| 15:34.12 | snadge | abrotman, ideally both.. ie.. windows desktop support during the migration period, but also linux client support |
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| 15:34.21 | bbrazil | Petaris: what can I do for you? |
| 15:34.23 | xLobeznox | someone know what happens? I used debian kernel 2.6.8 conf and compiled with a debian kernel 2.6.8 source |
| 15:34.28 | xLobeznox | and have this warning |
| 15:34.35 | diz | ok, mirrors.kernel.org now has full 3.0_r5 cds and dvds available for download.. some debian dorks removed some of the older files needed to make the older jigdo images, so the rest are incomplete (debian is a push mirror, we have no control over what files we have or don't). Enjoy the new isos just in time for the june 6th release of still more isos. |
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| 15:34.57 | abrotman | snadge: you can have linux desktops auth logins from samba/ldap .. but the mapped drives thing .. dunno .. you really do need to talk to #samba. . and if you can .. write it up on a webpage .. so there's no confusion on what you want |
| 15:35.03 | Petaris | bbrazil: I can't get hybserv to connect to the ircd-hybrid server |
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| 15:35.22 | asg | snadge: well, samba can be used for unix systems only; there is no particular tie to Windows with its use. |
| 15:35.49 | bbrazil | Petaris: http://netsoc.tcd.ie/~bbrazil/matrix/root/hybrid/ircd.conf your hybrid config look something like that (look at the end) ? |
| 15:36.08 | somePriest | appaji: I had never considered that the client might be expiring the cached password. I'll look into that. Thank you. |
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| 15:36.51 | Osax | hi all |
| 15:36.57 | Osax | anyone tried MonoDevelop on sid? |
| 15:37.01 | Azar | diz, with a Woody CD I usually install only from the 1st disk, the base, then I upgrade from mirrors |
| 15:37.08 | aixing | hello |
| 15:37.10 | abrotman | Osax: why? |
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| 15:37.27 | Osax | abrotman, i always get an error |
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| 15:37.36 | abrotman | Osax: such as ? |
| 15:37.43 | Osax | ossama@debian:~$ monodevelop |
| 15:37.43 | Osax | /usr/bin/monodevelop: 3: function: not found |
| 15:37.43 | Osax | /usr/bin/monodevelop: 17: Syntax error: "}" unexpected |
| 15:37.43 | Azar | oh my bad... did not read correctly |
| 15:37.54 | abrotman | Osax: did you check the BTS ? |
| 15:38.03 | freecraft | asg: thank you |
| 15:38.06 | Osax | abrotman, nope, i will do |
| 15:38.06 | EdibleText | kr!CK# |
| 15:38.09 | asg | freecraft: you're welcome |
| 15:38.13 | jethro | !lart Osax |
| 15:38.17 | abrotman | Osax: always a good place to start when running Sid |
| 15:38.21 | Petaris | bbrazil: nope, actually the whole file looks quite different |
| 15:38.29 | jethro | is thursday the clueless sid user's day ? |
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| 15:38.35 | asg | !thursday |
| 15:38.36 | dpkg | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent), or tight-underwear day. |
| 15:38.39 | Osax | abrotman, cool. thanks for the advise. |
| 15:38.45 | jethro | Osax: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 15:38.52 | toonX | are there other (better) than type1 and speedo and freetype ? |
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| 15:39.02 | Osax | jethro, got the message. sorry for pasting here! |
| 15:39.05 | toonX | i forgot to say fonts |
| 15:39.07 | bbrazil | Petaris: you using hybrid 6? |
| 15:39.18 | jethro | Osax: paste was not the issue. not checking BTS before asking #debian was |
| 15:39.31 | jethro | Osax: see the sid faq factoid |
| 15:39.33 | Osax | jethro, oh, i see ;-) |
| 15:39.38 | Petaris | bbrazil: 7.0.3 |
| 15:39.48 | bbrazil | Petaris: strange, we're on 7.0.3 too |
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| 15:39.53 | snadge | asg: i wonder if i could convince IBM management to have a talk with the samba guys.. im sure IBM would pay them significantly for their time, it sounds like an extremely complex task which would be best suited by experts |
| 15:40.00 | directhex|work | monodevelop justworks(tm) here |
| 15:40.21 | Osax | directhex|work, when was the last apt-get upgrade you did? or dist-upgrade? |
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| 15:40.29 | Petaris | bbrazil: are you useing the release or the debian one |
| 15:40.37 | bbrazil | Petaris: from source |
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| 15:40.49 | Om | Anyone know of any msn clients which support video/webcams, obviously for Debian/linux? :) |
| 15:40.49 | asg | snadge: it would be worth a shot. |
| 15:40.55 | directhex|work | Osax, 30 seconds ago |
| 15:40.56 | Petaris | bbrazil: ahh, ok I'm using the debian package |
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| 15:41.07 | directhex|work | Om, no. there are none. complain to microsoft. |
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| 15:41.15 | Petaris | bbrazil: I wonder if something was screwed with |
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| 15:41.23 | asg | snadge: I'm pretty sure the samba team and IBM have had contact before. |
| 15:41.26 | bbrazil | Petaris: anyway the main trick is having the passwords the same and making sure all the hostnames/reverse DNS and server names match up |
| 15:41.43 | directhex|work | Om, gaim-vv is a project attempting to do it, but it doesn't work. there's also another project which has been working on reverse-engineering the protocol, but it's not been implemented yet |
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| 15:41.48 | Osax | directhex|work, i tried it from the mono/debian source before |
| 15:41.57 | Osax | almost a month ago and since then it didn't work! |
| 15:42.02 | Osax | anyway.. i'll see |
| 15:42.17 | directhex|work | Osax, i just did aptitude install monodevelop, and ran monodevelop. that's _it_ |
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| 15:42.39 | Om | directhex|work, do you think I'd have any luck trying to run one of the microsoft msn clients under wine? |
| 15:42.41 | Petaris | bbrazil: right, I'm new to IRC (admin) so I'm not super familiar with all of the options yet |
| 15:42.43 | snadge | asg: i know IBM US have a significant involvement with linux on both desktop and server level.. but IBM AU is falling behind.. global services here in australia is huge, the expansion is enormous.. and its all windows ZERO linux support |
| 15:42.48 | Osax | directhex|work, alright. my bad. will check BTS! |
| 15:42.58 | bbrazil | Petaris: could you put up your config somewhere? |
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| 15:43.14 | Petaris | bbrazil: I've been trying to figure out what I need and where I need it. |
| 15:43.19 | Petaris | bbrazil: sure |
| 15:43.21 | asg | snadge: well, since tridge is .au, it should be easy to get the two together |
| 15:43.34 | directhex|work | Om, no, you very likely won't. complain to microsoft. or use something more linuxable. i think Skype does video now |
| 15:43.36 | cuse | Hi! Is there a known issue with kdelibs-bin? Since I upgraded yesterday (Sid) kdeinit is permanently taking 99% CPU |
| 15:43.47 | jethro | directhex|work: yes it does |
| 15:43.47 | asg | cuse: check the bts |
| 15:43.56 | asg | cuse: check the /topic of #debian-kde as well. |
| 15:44.30 | Om | Ah well, thanks directhex|work :) |
| 15:45.06 | ico2 | are there debian packages for php5? |
| 15:45.09 | ico2 | i cannot find them |
| 15:45.14 | asg | ico2: no, /msg dpkg php5 |
| 15:45.15 | directhex|work | !php5 |
| 15:45.15 | dpkg | from memory, php5 is at ``deb http://packages.dotdeb.org ./'' but remember to read http://devel.dotdeb.org and remove the line or you'll hose your system, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/12/msg01992.html (for sid), but don't yell at us when they break your system, or see http://bugs.debian.org/262977 |
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| 15:45.39 | bbrazil | Petaris: looking at the debian package the config file should be C-style |
| 15:45.42 | erore | hy |
| 15:45.43 | ico2 | hmmm |
| 15:45.49 | ico2 | i'll stick with php4 |
| 15:45.54 | Solet | is there a way to remote access debian from windows? in a graphical 'remote desktop' manner? |
| 15:46.00 | erore | somebody kwons who to share a cd writer? |
| 15:46.03 | asg | Solet: vnc |
| 15:46.19 | asg | Solet: cygwin + X is also a possibility |
| 15:46.26 | PeTeRB | Solet: /msg dpkg vnc |
| 15:46.39 | snadge | asg: i'll speak to my manager tomorrow about it.. if i can convince him that he could save global services multi millions of dollars per year by convincing his management to talk with tridge.. i think it would be worth it ;) |
| 15:46.51 | Solet | doesnt it cost money? (i'm using the vnc trial right now on all my windows machines |
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| 15:47.01 | asg | snadge: cool |
| 15:47.05 | PeTeRB | Solet: Depends on what you use. |
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| 15:47.24 | Solet | PeTeRB: what do you mean? |
| 15:47.24 | jasoncohen | Solet, debian comes with the tightvnc and vnc4 server and viewer packages |
| 15:47.42 | PeTeRB | Solet: What jasoncohen said. |
| 15:47.47 | gnube | snadge, I think tridge is up to his elbows in git |
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| 15:47.55 | xtension | is it possible to run vncserver as user ? |
| 15:48.05 | jasoncohen | xtension, yes |
| 15:48.11 | tarzeau | xtension: sure |
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| 15:48.15 | jasoncohen | xtension, that's the way it should be run |
| 15:48.17 | Petaris | bbrazil: http://katerina.frederic.k12.wi.us/code/ircd.conf |
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| 15:48.35 | Petaris | bbrazil: http://katerina.frederic.k12.wi.us/code/hybserv.conf |
| 15:48.42 | bbrazil | Petaris: I've to run. You might want to grab a copy of my config as I'm about to bring the server down |
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| 15:48.52 | jasoncohen | xtension, since it loads with the users preferences and desktop. I have my vnc4server start on boot as user jason and a KDE desktop |
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| 15:48.56 | Petaris | bbrazil: http://katerina.frederic.k12.wi.us/code/settings.conf |
| 15:49.10 | Petaris | bbrazil: ok, thanks |
| 15:49.34 | xtension | vncserver is a X client then ? |
| 15:49.39 | snadge | gnube, git doesnt make him any money though.. im sure thats hugely important for linux and free software in general.. but IBM could make him very rich.. its not just IBM, its all the companies that IBM supports.. banks, investment companies, airlines etc |
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| 15:49.59 | jasoncohen | if you want to start it on boot you can write a simple script and update-rc.d to make an init.d script |
| 15:50.01 | emacse1 | Anyone here using a make-jpkg'ed Java? |
| 15:50.04 | Lee__ | what's the command line equivilant of the output on packages.debian.org package contents search? |
| 15:50.05 | erore | is thre any way to share the cdwriter from de client to the server? |
| 15:50.19 | gnube | snadge, I doubt that actually Plus I do not think wither he or linux or any of them really want to be richer than they are. |
| 15:50.21 | emacse1 | I can't seem to find the plugin in my Sun SDK |
| 15:50.37 | gnube | s/wither/either |
| 15:50.41 | jasoncohen | i have one that simply starts vnc - "su -c jason vnc4server" and i added startkde & to ~/.vnc/xstartup |
| 15:50.57 | jasoncohen | emacsen, yes, i did so yesterday |
| 15:51.08 | asg | emacsen: /msg dpkg mozilla-java |
| 15:51.20 | jasoncohen | emacsen, i downloaded j2re 1.5 from sun's site and rm make-jpkg sun-jr2re... |
| 15:51.22 | snadge | gnube, the money is just a bonus.. its the bigger picture.. he would be helping destroy microsoft in one of their hugest markets, big business |
| 15:51.36 | emacsen | jasoncohen: rm make? |
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| 15:52.02 | xtension | jasoncohen does vnc start kde ? |
| 15:52.04 | snadge | saving large companies millions of dollars, has a flow on effect to consumers |
| 15:52.04 | bbrazil | Petaris: ah, you have the names of both servers the same |
| 15:52.09 | pepsi_ | is it easy to downgrade a a package in apt? |
| 15:52.15 | tarzeau | pepsi_: no |
| 15:52.16 | asg | pepsi_: it depends |
| 15:52.18 | gnube | MS already faces a lot of competition there, in fact they recognize the Sun and Red Hat are people to pick off in the fight with IBM |
| 15:52.20 | jasoncohen | xtension, it can if you add startkde & to ~/vnc/.xstartup |
| 15:52.21 | emacsen | jasoncohen: ah, but you see, I don't seem to find the plugins |
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| 15:52.25 | Petaris | bbrazil: they are both on the same box |
| 15:52.27 | bbrazil | Petaris: make the N line in hybserv.conf services.irc.frederic.k12.wi.us (or whatever) |
| 15:52.29 | pepsi_ | tarzeau: asg: where can I read abaut it? |
| 15:52.38 | xtension | jasoncohen would that require root then ? |
| 15:52.39 | asg | pepsi_: downgrades to the previous package version will often work (/msg dpkg sdn) |
| 15:52.42 | bbrazil | Petaris: and the name in the connect block the same |
| 15:52.44 | tarzeau | pepsi_: which pkg? |
| 15:52.49 | gnube | snadge, But I think they work from something more than just killing Microsoft |
| 15:52.50 | jasoncohen | xtension, no. do you have to be root to start kde? |
| 15:52.52 | asg | pepsi_: downgrades to previous releases of the os likely won't work |
| 15:53.03 | yalu_ | anyone know how you type an escape in a text file? |
| 15:53.05 | pepsi_ | tarzeau: emacs and/or jdee... (syntax highlighting is broken in current setup) |
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| 15:53.13 | bbrazil | Petaris: and change that password ;) |
| 15:53.15 | Petaris | bbrazil: do I need to setup a dns for that then or is it just internal use? |
| 15:53.20 | bbrazil | Petaris: no |
| 15:53.31 | gnube | snadge, don't forget there is the FreeBSD monopoly to be crushed! |
| 15:53.32 | Petaris | bbrazil: that password is expendable |
| 15:53.34 | Petaris | :) |
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| 15:53.46 | bbrazil | Petaris: now I do have to run |
| 15:53.54 | snadge | gnube, well whatever their reasons for creating samba.. IBM and the systems they support are massive.. its hugely important not just for IBM and those companies.. but society itself.. what better way to test samba, than use it in the largest possible way? |
| 15:53.57 | jasoncohen | emacsen, make-jpkg is a tool to create .deb packages from java bin files. You're still going to need the correct package with the plugins you want |
| 15:54.01 | Petaris | bbrazil: bye, and thanks |
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| 15:54.17 | emacsen | jasoncohen: Yes, but AFAIK the SDK and JRE should have the plugins |
| 15:54.19 | gnube | snadge, and all of those Plan 9 servers . . . |
| 15:54.36 | emacsen | jasoncohen: there's not even a plugin directory |
| 15:54.37 | snadge | gnube.. what.. you mean both of them? :P |
| 15:54.39 | xtension | jasoncohen thanks i ll try it |
| 15:55.19 | Osax | the error i get isn't in BTS. will report it. |
| 15:55.20 | emacsen | jasoncohen: maybe it's due to AMD64ness? |
| 15:55.23 | jasoncohen | emacsen, did you do dpkg -i sun-j2re...deb ? |
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| 15:55.35 | emacsen | jasoncohen: LOL. Yes I installed it! |
| 15:55.37 | jasoncohen | emacsen, make-jpkg just creates the package. it doesn't install it |
| 15:55.46 | jasoncohen | ok |
| 15:56.01 | emacsen | jasoncohen: Yes, I know that. I also know to install packages. It's an AMD64... maybe this is why... no Mozilla plugin for Java on AMD64? |
| 15:56.01 | jasoncohen | emacsen, where are the plugins stored? |
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| 15:56.22 | jasoncohen | emacsen, you might have to create the symbolic link |
| 15:56.28 | emacsen | jasoncohen: usually? somewhere in /usr/j2-[something] |
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| 15:56.51 | emacsen | jasoncohen: no you don't understand. Go in your installation under /usr/lib/j2...(whatever) |
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| 15:57.13 | emacsen | jasoncohen: now you should see a plugins directory. Right? |
| 15:57.16 | snadge | thats the problem with open source "hackers" .. they build a system that can run on their 386 with 16mb of ram, and comfortably support a whole 200 users.. and think "wow, thats fantastic".. meanwhile the real world that does important stuff, can't use it because its unsuitable for the purpose.. whatever happened to the vision of world domination? :P |
| 15:57.32 | Frater_Sx | need help. when I download a file from the www with my gprs phone connected to a debian system, the connection hangs and I must restart the phone. I can download any file from the IRC without problems. any idea? |
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| 15:58.49 | jasoncohen | emacsen, yes, i see a plugins dir |
| 15:58.58 | emacsen | jasoncohen: I don't. :) |
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| 16:00.38 | jasoncohen | emacsen, did you install j2re 1.5? |
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| 16:01.29 | oklinux | any one here run gkrellm ? |
| 16:01.39 | Frater_Sx | me |
| 16:01.46 | jasoncohen | emacsen, i don't understand why you wouldn't even have a plugin directory |
| 16:01.54 | Frater_Sx | oklinux, I use gkrellm |
| 16:03.05 | oklinux | Im trying to install gkrellm laucher plugin I cant find it any where. |
| 16:03.32 | aixing | anyone used druple? |
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| 16:05.34 | Frater_Sx | oklinux, sorry I have it auto installed with agnula |
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| 16:07.06 | gnube | how can I make sure cron runs the right path? |
| 16:07.29 | gnube | I am using like this - sh -c 'PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/ |
| 16:07.30 | Rawplayer | set the right path? |
| 16:07.50 | gnube | but apt-get upgrade complains it cannot find ldconfig |
| 16:07.50 | PeTeRB | gnube: Just use the full path to the file |
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| 16:08.05 | PeTeRB | gnube: Oh, nevermind |
| 16:08.15 | Azar | Kernel 2.4 provides the possibility to use text consoles whth high resolutions <<< how about kernel 2.6 ? |
| 16:08.45 | PeTeRB | gnube: ldconfig is in /sbin/ |
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| 16:09.04 | gnube | ahh . . .thanks |
| 16:09.08 | Azar | I run 2.6.8-2-k7 how about if I change my lilo config from vga=normal to vga=0x317 ? |
| 16:09.23 | gnube | PATH:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:' ; apt-get update ; apt-get --assume-yes upgrade |
| 16:09.29 | gnube | then it should be in my path |
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| 16:09.54 | gnube | dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH. |
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| 16:10.04 | _daniel_ | Hi I am trying tu recover a file I deleted through KDE on a ext3 filesystem |
| 16:10.09 | petemc | gnube: theres a tool to do that for you, apt-cron i think, but i dont see the need myself |
| 16:10.21 | _daniel_ | I tried e2undelete but didnt found any deleted files |
| 16:10.37 | _daniel_ | Is there another tool I could use to recover the file ? |
| 16:10.38 | gnube | petemc, So you think it is unnecessary to update stuff daily? |
| 16:10.44 | petemc | gnube: i do |
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| 16:10.51 | gnube | by stuff I mean apt-get |
| 16:10.54 | petemc | gnube: at least, unattended |
| 16:11.06 | gnube | petemc, How often do you do it for a production server? |
| 16:11.16 | petemc | gnube: whenever i see a dsa |
| 16:11.27 | gnube | I thought I was being so clever. |
| 16:11.29 | petemc | gnube: or a vulnerability from some other reliable source |
| 16:11.31 | gnube | I guess not |
| 16:11.52 | gnube | Presumably the debian security list tells you about dsas |
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| 16:12.03 | petemc | gnube: yup |
| 16:12.14 | petemc | gnube: its cron-apt, for the record |
| 16:12.19 | gnube | OK, well, off I go to subscribe. |
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| 16:12.26 | gnube | petemc, Thank you. |
| 16:12.39 | petemc | nop |
| 16:12.42 | petemc | np, even |
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| 16:13.01 | ico2_ | is libapache-mod-ssl good for apache2? |
| 16:13.30 | lucaslira | Qual o canal do Debian? |
| 16:13.36 | lucaslira | Debian BR?? |
| 16:13.40 | resiak | !br |
| 16:13.41 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 16:13.58 | lucaslira | Obrigado |
| 16:14.04 | Bac9 | is there any "easy" way to get a tex document into a msword document? |
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| 16:14.13 | resiak | Bac9: Why the smeg would you want to do that? |
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| 16:14.25 | resiak | Bac9: You'd be better off hunting for a way to do tex -> rtf. |
| 16:14.31 | snadge | thats like wanting to turn a ferrari into a lada |
| 16:14.35 | petemc | resiak: you might be surprised, but .doc is a popular format irl |
| 16:14.36 | Bac9 | resiak: people are asking, and I am tired of embeding pictures in a word document |
| 16:14.56 | Bac9 | resiak: ok, and how do I get tex->rtf? |
| 16:15.13 | resiak | !fgi |
| 16:15.14 | dpkg | fgi is probably http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/, and see http://www.moule.org/images/bart.jpg |
| 16:15.53 | resiak | petemc: You might be surprised, but there are saner formats that are universal, such as RTF and PDF. |
| 16:16.11 | resiak | Bac9: I don't know if it's possible, though: it's just an idea. |
| 16:16.24 | petemc | resiak: right, been outside in the big blue room lately? |
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| 16:16.56 | resiak | petemc: I have no problems not using .DOC. |
| 16:17.07 | resiak | petemc: Or, at least, not _making_ them. |
| 16:17.30 | resiak | petemc: Admittedly, I am nothing but a filthy student, but... |
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| 16:17.38 | petemc | cool beans |
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| 16:17.47 | Bac9 | resiak: there's a latex2rtf, lets see if it can actually do anything legible |
| 16:17.48 | cirdan | hey all |
| 16:18.05 | Frater_Sx | bye |
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| 16:18.38 | cirdan | noticed something odd, my kernel doesnt re-read the partition table after i cfdisk a new drive. using 2.4.30 |
| 16:18.46 | cirdan | is there some config i missed? |
| 16:18.57 | cirdan | it's a real pita to reboot of i change the partitions |
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| 16:21.12 | cirdan | any ideas? |
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| 16:23.52 | Bac9 | resiak: latex2rtf is just as pathetic an all the tex->html converters :-( |
| 16:23.59 | resiak | Bac9: There must be a good one... |
| 16:24.17 | resiak | Bac9: Meh, I'd go with PDF if you don't need people to edit it with Word. |
| 16:24.20 | Bac9 | resiak: can't seem to find anything |
| 16:24.36 | Bac9 | resiak: some people "must have word document" |
| 16:24.50 | cirdan | Bac9: .txt |
| 16:24.58 | cirdan | let them open it with word |
| 16:25.08 | Bac9 | resiak: my usual responce to that is put a picture in a msword document, but I was fealing a bit generous |
| 16:25.21 | asuffield | people who insist on having word documents typically want to edit your documents |
| 16:25.27 | Bac9 | cirdan: can you find a decent tex->txt converter? |
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| 16:25.34 | resiak | asuffield: If he's putting pictures in .doc, they don't :-) |
| 16:25.36 | asuffield | the appropriate reply is "our security policies prohibit the distribution of word documents outside the company" |
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| 16:25.54 | gnube | indeed |
| 16:25.56 | asuffield | resiak: they can't actually come out and *say* that, so they can't object to this |
| 16:25.59 | Ungy | using openoffice right now to right word doc |
| 16:25.59 | oskie | what's the fastest way to truncate a 4GB file by, say, 1KB? |
| 16:26.16 | asuffield | oskie: perl |
| 16:26.19 | Bac9 | cirdan: I am open to sugestions |
| 16:26.23 | cirdan | oskie: edit the filemap :-) |
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| 16:26.42 | oskie | ah perl's truncate |
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| 16:27.43 | Ungy | oskie ": > filename" will realy truncate it ;-) |
| 16:28.28 | asuffield | there's no shell operation for truncating to a specified length |
| 16:28.36 | gnube | oskie, You can google for Rpb Flickenger's mince bash script |
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| 16:28.39 | asuffield | inconviniently |
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| 16:29.04 | gnube | s/Rpb/Rob |
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| 16:29.21 | asuffield | gnube: that will copy 4Gb of data. this is not fast. |
| 16:29.21 | gnube | It minces data into arbitrary chunks |
| 16:29.40 | gnube | ahh |
| 16:29.52 | asuffield | the trick is to do it *without* copying |
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| 16:30.15 | Ungy | holy crap openoffice replace mr clippy with mr bulby |
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| 16:30.35 | gnube | asuffield, That is quite a trick |
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| 16:30.46 | asuffield | you can do it with perl. you can't do it with the shell |
| 16:30.54 | astronut | my clock is an hour slow, even after i set it with NTP |
| 16:31.04 | asuffield | astronut: you probably got the timezone wrong |
| 16:31.07 | asg | astronut: daylight savings time? |
| 16:31.09 | astronut | says edt |
| 16:31.13 | astronut | same as server |
| 16:31.14 | astronut | err |
| 16:31.15 | astronut | workstation |
| 16:31.24 | asuffield | but are you *in* EDT? |
| 16:31.34 | astronut | astronut@debian:~$ date ; ssh astronut date |
| 16:31.34 | astronut | Thu Jun 2 12:32:36 EDT 2005 |
| 16:31.34 | astronut | Thu Jun 2 11:30:28 EDT 2005 |
| 16:31.34 | astronut | astronut@debian:~$ |
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| 16:31.45 | asuffield | that's TWO MINUTES out |
| 16:31.48 | asuffield | that is *not* ntp |
| 16:31.51 | astronut | and an hour |
| 16:32.20 | asuffield | whatever you thought you did to set the time, was wrong |
| 16:32.20 | asg | astronut: ntp will probably not set a time that's an hour out of sync. |
| 16:32.24 | astronut | ah |
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| 16:32.27 | asuffield | asg: it will if you do it right |
| 16:32.29 | astronut | it was due to power outage i think |
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| 16:32.34 | helix | or wrong? |
| 16:32.34 | astronut | that box had like 100+ day uptime |
| 16:32.45 | astronut | it doesn't update HW clock till shutdown |
| 16:32.50 | astronut | daylight savings switched |
| 16:32.53 | astronut | software clock switched |
| 16:32.54 | asg | asuffield: fair enough |
| 16:32.55 | astronut | then power outage |
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| 16:32.59 | astronut | and HW clock never got changed |
| 16:33.01 | astronut | that sound reasonable? |
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| 16:33.21 | gnube | isn't EDT Eastern Daylight Time? |
| 16:33.26 | astronut | yes |
| 16:33.28 | asuffield | gnube: maybe |
| 16:33.29 | gnube | and EST Eastern Standard Time? |
| 16:33.37 | Flex-it | Hi , How can I read log about crontab ? |
| 16:33.39 | asuffield | astronut: <shrug> the trigger isn't very interesting. go fix ntp |
| 16:33.54 | astronut | what's the sytax for seetting with datE? |
| 16:33.59 | asg | Flex-it: /var/log/cron.log or /var/log/syslog |
| 16:34.01 | gnube | So if it is EDT - it should be daylight savings time and therefor one hour later |
| 16:34.25 | thomask7 | Hi, I'm currently stuggling with evolution-data-server dependency problems, does anyone know about this issue? |
| 16:34.36 | thomask7 | There are two versions in unstable. |
| 16:34.48 | resiak | !tell thomask7 -about sid faq |
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| 16:34.59 | Ungy | Mr Bulby sucks compared to mr Clippy |
| 16:35.15 | gnube | Flex-it, man crontab |
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| 16:35.24 | asg | Ungy: they all suck compared the the pissed off looking green parrot (that made its debut in Microsoft Bob) |
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| 16:35.48 | Ungy | that parrot rocked althoguh the little kitten was really cute too |
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| 16:35.56 | Flex-it | asg: Ok thre are in /var/log/syslog . How can I use a file as /var/log/cron.log to log them ? |
| 16:36.04 | Ungy | I wanted to kill the creators of the wizard though |
| 16:36.09 | EdibleText | "The Best is yet to come." |
| 16:36.10 | asg | Ungy: either way, having cartoon characters in a word processor is just obscene. |
| 16:36.17 | asg | Flex-it: edit /etc/syslog.conf |
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| 16:36.34 | Ungy | asg agreed how do I shuit this damne dthing off in open office |
| 16:36.34 | Flex-it | asg: thank's , I had to edit this file :-) |
| 16:36.43 | asg | Ungy: not a clue, I don't use oo |
| 16:36.57 | Azar | interesting: I have not installed alsa yet but ad lsmod I can see alsa driver modules .. what gives? is Sarge coming with alsa modules? |
| 16:37.01 | Ungy | aha found it |
| 16:37.02 | cirdan | so anyone else notice a kernel that refuses to read a new partition table? |
| 16:37.03 | thomask7 | resiak: that was a bit quick, perhaps... |
| 16:37.17 | PeTeRB | The robot in MSWord would sometimes eat the ball and blow up. IMHO it's the only fun thing about those things. |
| 16:37.47 | Ungy | asg if you ever do first hings first go to Tools>options>general under Help Agent unclick Activate |
| 16:37.51 | asg | PeTeRB: better to have the desktop pet thingy where you could torture the animals with a spray bottle, etc. |
| 16:38.11 | asg | Ungy: thanks for the tip but vi works just fine for me. |
| 16:38.13 | Ungy | I loved clicking the animate button |
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| 16:38.45 | Ungy | !flame war |
| 16:38.46 | dpkg | war: YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 16:38.49 | astronut | anyone got an accurate clock i can time? |
| 16:38.51 | thomask7 | resiak: there are two versions of the same software in the same debian branch, with same packages built against one and some against the other. |
| 16:38.54 | resiak | thomask7: Have you checked the BTS? |
| 16:38.54 | astronut | ctcp time |
| 16:39.01 | asg | charcoal > gas |
| 16:39.06 | thomask7 | resiak: I just wanted to know if someone has more info on it. |
| 16:39.14 | Ungy | asg I can't use vi it's against my religion |
| 16:39.17 | thomask7 | resiak: Yes, i couldn't find anything. |
| 16:39.26 | astronut | Ungy: church of emacs? |
| 16:39.30 | cirdan | asg: http://packetstormsecurity.org/unix-humor/unixoid_hell.gif |
| 16:39.31 | cirdan | hehe |
| 16:39.33 | thomask7 | resiak: also, not on the gtk-gnome ML. |
| 16:39.41 | Ungy | astronut, you a member too? |
| 16:39.48 | thomask7 | resiak: so, should I write to the list? |
| 16:39.52 | astronut | ugv: i suually use vi...i oinl y have 5 fingers |
| 16:39.55 | astronut | per hand |
| 16:39.58 | resiak | thomask7: No, Sid and Sarge have the same, single, version. |
| 16:39.58 | abrotman | thomask7: keyboard! |
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| 16:40.14 | asg | cirdan: apt-get install vigor |
| 16:40.25 | cirdan | :-) |
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| 16:40.29 | Ungy | emacs<pico<nano |
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| 16:40.33 | thomask7 | abrotman: keyboard? --verbose |
| 16:40.34 | gnube | is there a better way to see what ports are running what than netstat -lp? |
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| 16:40.38 | snadge | http://xynext.com/Abbot-Costello-Whos-on-First-Computer-Joke/ amusing |
| 16:40.44 | asg | gnube: lsof |
| 16:40.44 | resiak | thomask7: can you paste relevant bits of /etc/apt/sources.list into #flood ? |
| 16:40.48 | astronut | i saw that last night i think |
| 16:40.49 | astronut | on /. |
| 16:40.55 | thomask7 | resiak: there is evolution-data-server and evolution-data-server1.2 |
| 16:40.59 | snadge | astronut, yup =) |
| 16:41.02 | astronut | anyone have an accurate clcok and doesn't mind some /ctcp times |
| 16:41.11 | resiak | thomask7: Right. |
| 16:41.11 | astronut | ? |
| 16:41.14 | gnube | asg, nice, thanks |
| 16:41.27 | cirdan | astronut: ntpdate |
| 16:41.35 | astronut | cirdan: i HAVE been using it |
| 16:41.37 | resiak | thomask7: Didn't notice 1.2. But ... they conflict, yes? Well, that's part of the fun of Sid. |
| 16:41.40 | astronut | and the two boxes both synch to NTP |
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| 16:41.42 | astronut | to diff times |
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| 16:41.57 | cirdan | astronut: set the same TZ? :-) |
| 16:42.01 | thomask7 | resiak: the problem is that they don't officially conflict, but in practice, they do. |
| 16:42.02 | astronut | cirdan: it is |
| 16:42.13 | cirdan | weird |
| 16:42.18 | resiak | thomask7: So .. you work around it. Part of the fun of sid, as I said. |
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| 16:42.20 | thomask7 | resiak: e.g. evolution depends on evolution-data-server1.2, but gaim is built against evolution-data-server. |
| 16:42.36 | thomask7 | resiak: ok... sid rules :-) |
| 16:42.58 | astronut | ok, got it |
| 16:43.06 | resiak | thomask7: For relevant definitions of "rules", yes. |
| 16:43.07 | Ungy | I like sid |
| 16:43.09 | thomask7 | resiak: still, shouldn't I tell someone about it? Or is that just "implicitly normal"? |
| 16:43.11 | FlimFlamMan | is there an apt source for mediawiki ? |
| 16:43.12 | Ungy | he is rather viscious |
| 16:43.12 | astronut | and it synched |
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| 16:43.23 | abrotman | FlimFlamMan: if not in official .. try apt-get.org |
| 16:43.33 | FlimFlamMan | abrotman, thx |
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| 16:43.50 | resiak | thomask7: You could file a bug, but they probably know. |
| 16:43.50 | gnube | so if I do a 'lsof | grep LISTEN' I ought to find everything that is listening on an open port? |
| 16:44.56 | astronut | lsof -i i thikn |
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| 16:45.22 | PeTeRB | gnube: netstat -l |
| 16:45.30 | greycat | !open ports |
| 16:45.30 | astronut | you can do it w/ slof too |
| 16:45.30 | dpkg | open ports is probably netstat -plunt, or lsof -i -n, or (also, see 'open files') |
| 16:46.27 | FlimFlamMan | abrotman, i found a source here: http://debian.duckcorp.org/experimental/binary-i386/ -- does that imply i shouldn't us it on a debian-testing machine? sid only? |
| 16:47.10 | FlimFlamMan | er, that should be http://debian.duckcorp.org/unstable/binary-i386/ |
| 16:47.26 | thomask7 | FlimFlamMan: mediawiki is extremely easy to install. Perhaps you should just get the source package. |
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| 16:48.01 | FlimFlamMan | thomask7, ok... |
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| 16:48.38 | ico2_ | why does the mysql-server package depend on mailx???????????????????????????????????????????????? |
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| 16:49.19 | astronut | ico2_: sure you have enough question marks?????????????????????????????????? |
| 16:49.27 | asg | ico2_: it will email you reports if it finds crashed tables, bork bork. |
| 16:49.33 | ico2_ | bah |
| 16:49.39 | ico2_ | can i get rid of mailx? |
| 16:49.42 | ico2_ | it is very big |
| 16:49.45 | ico2_ | and pointless |
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| 16:49.57 | ico2_ | and crashed tables are the least of my worries |
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| 16:50.18 | astronut | it's 84k? |
| 16:50.24 | PeTeRB | !tell ico2_ about enter |
| 16:50.33 | ico2_ | no |
| 16:50.37 | asg | ico2_: some strange value of the term large we weren't previously aware of |
| 16:50.37 | ico2_ | its deps as well |
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| 16:50.41 | ico2_ | anount to 10mb |
| 16:50.52 | astronut | postfix or something? |
| 16:51.04 | EdibleText | !ssmtp |
| 16:51.04 | dpkg | somebody said ssmtp was an extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mailhub |
| 16:51.05 | PeTeRB | astronut: Any MTA |
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| 16:51.29 | asg | EdibleText: mailx is not an mta |
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| 16:51.37 | ico2_ | if i force my system to remove mailx, will it have negative effects? |
| 16:51.41 | asg | ico2_: yes |
| 16:51.46 | ico2_ | bah |
| 16:51.49 | EdibleText | asg, it was more in response to < astronut> postfix or something? |
| 16:51.52 | ico2_ | dumb package management |
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| 16:52.08 | asg | ico2_: the dependancy exists for a reason |
| 16:52.08 | ledet | no, dumb wish do remove mailx |
| 16:52.12 | ico2_ | hwo do i get rid of it then? without screwing up mysql |
| 16:52.20 | ledet | ico2_: you dont |
| 16:52.24 | PeTeRB | ico2_: you dont |
| 16:52.36 | ico2_ | according to folks in mysql: mailx is not required for mysql |
| 16:52.55 | ledet | !depends mysql-server |
| 16:52.57 | paula | yo no te quiero yo soy española |
| 16:52.59 | dpkg | mysql-server: depends on mysql-common (>= 4.0.24-10), mysql-client (>= 4.0.24-10), debconf (>= 1.2.9), libdbi-perl, perl (>= 5.6), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libmysqlclient12, libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libwrap0, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), adduser (>= 3.40), psmisc, passwd, mailx |
| 16:53.00 | resiak | !es |
| 16:53.00 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:53.05 | resiak | !depends mailx |
| 16:53.09 | dpkg | mailx: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), liblockfile1 (>= 1.0), exim4 | mail-transport-agent, base-files (>= 2.2.0) |
| 16:53.13 | ledet | ico2_: look... mailx is one of them |
| 16:53.22 | resiak | So it depends on ... nothing at all. |
| 16:53.23 | asg | ico2_: then build your own package that doesn't have it as a depend |
| 16:53.26 | ico2_ | bah |
| 16:53.33 | EdibleText | ico2_, ssmtp provides mail-transport-agent |
| 16:53.35 | asg | ico2_: or file a wishlist bug |
| 16:53.45 | asg | !depends mysql-server |
| 16:53.47 | ico2_ | aaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 16:53.48 | ico2_ | i see |
| 16:53.50 | dpkg | mysql-server: depends on mysql-common (>= 4.0.24-10), mysql-client (>= 4.0.24-10), debconf (>= 1.2.9), libdbi-perl, perl (>= 5.6), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libmysqlclient12, libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libwrap0, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), adduser (>= 3.40), psmisc, passwd, mailx |
| 16:53.56 | ico2_ | i can use ssmtp instead of exim4 |
| 16:53.56 | paula | i am paula |
| 16:53.58 | ico2_ | great |
| 16:54.01 | ico2_ | thanks |
| 16:54.05 | EdibleText | ico2_, yup |
| 16:54.05 | astronut | ico2_: go install gentoo then |
| 16:54.08 | ledet | paula: congratulations |
| 16:54.13 | abrotman | FlimFlamMan: experimental |
| 16:54.16 | PeTeRB | paula: That's obvious. |
| 16:54.20 | EdibleText | !win paula |
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| 16:54.20 | dpkg | Congratulations, paula! You have won a one way ticket to Soviet Russia! |
| 16:54.23 | quittt | gentoo is great |
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| 16:54.31 | quittt | the distribution or the file manager? |
| 16:54.33 | paula | soy española tontolava |
| 16:54.33 | astronut | In soviet russia, paula is you! |
| 16:54.34 | resiak | !start a distro war |
| 16:54.34 | dpkg | SuSE 0wnz! |
| 16:54.36 | resiak | !es |
| 16:54.36 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:54.39 | ledet | quittt: lol |
| 16:54.39 | resiak | paula: ^^ |
| 16:54.53 | paula | yo de toledo |
| 16:55.04 | quittt | !start a distro war |
| 16:55.04 | dpkg | Gentoo 0wnz! |
| 16:55.07 | asg | paula: Ohio or Spain? |
| 16:55.07 | quittt | !start a distro war |
| 16:55.07 | paula | adios |
| 16:55.13 | ledet | paula: hralla ackbuy hgsdg dasf to you too |
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| 16:55.24 | paula | vete ala mierda |
| 16:55.31 | ledet | paula: fdag sghj auh ry asfsdfh |
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| 16:56.06 | quittt | !zeta |
| 16:56.07 | dpkg | well, zeta is an closed operating system based on BeOS from Be, Inc. It is developed by yellowtab.com and it is CLOSED source, so you have to pay for it. |
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| 16:56.34 | resiak | !tell quittt -about msgdpkg |
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| 16:58.55 | astronut | !xpde |
| 16:58.55 | dpkg | xpde is, like, a desktop environment attempting to make it easier for the newbie. stands for "XP Desktop Environment.", or at xpde.com for more info. |
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| 16:59.12 | resiak | !tell astronut -about msgdpkg |
| 16:59.14 | Azar | I am feeling so helpless when it comes moving around files from one directory to another where can I get some tutorial about working with system files/directories ? |
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| 16:59.52 | Ungy | Azar man mv |
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| 17:00.07 | Ebless | I'm Using DrHacK ScRipT v.2 |
| 17:00.18 | astronut | does freenode seem laggy to anyone? |
| 17:00.25 | Azar | here is what I am trying to do: move the OSS drivers out of /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/sound to some location where the module loader won't find them. |
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| 17:00.30 | sobersabre | astronut, no. |
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| 17:00.52 | astronut | ok, my ping-o-metter was at 2.4, back down to 0.1 like normal |
| 17:01.19 | Azar | Ungy I know the basic moving/renaming of files but I feel shy to move some system files that maybe should not be messed with |
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| 17:01.38 | PeTeRB | Azar: Why would you move system files? |
| 17:01.40 | bbrazil | Petaris: you sort that out? |
| 17:01.51 | Ungy | Azar then don't move them |
| 17:02.05 | Ungy | Azar why the hell you want to move things around for |
| 17:02.08 | Azar | PeTeRB Id rather store the oss modules, I guess rather than start chopping/removing them |
| 17:02.12 | _R_R | hello, I'm looking for a simple tool (preferably a cgi script or something like that) that I can install so my users can change their password (and maybe get some info about their quota's and update their info like phone numbers). Anyone knows something for this? |
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| 17:02.21 | DyDe | where can i get help with non-free ati-drivers? i want to run my aticard under debian, but noone wants to help me because the driver is non-free |
| 17:02.22 | Ungy | Azar cp them |
| 17:03.00 | Azar | Ungy I am reading around on usenet , trying to prepare for alsa installation, I want to take care of OSS modules first |
| 17:03.01 | cahoot | Azar: why not just make hotplug/discover not load them? |
| 17:03.09 | _R_R | btw... I really dislike webmin a lot ;) |
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| 17:03.20 | EdibleText | whoa, found 177M work of text and data in /var/tmp all starting with 'sort' eg 'sort2162900023' |
| 17:03.38 | Azar | cahoot, last time I worked with alsa, I had discover/hotplug but it did not seem to work |
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| 17:03.44 | EdibleText | s/work/worth |
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| 17:03.52 | Petaris | bbazil: still working on it |
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| 17:04.18 | Azar | I am trying to take OSS modules and store them where they will not load at bootup |
| 17:04.23 | Petaris | bbrazil: still working on it |
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| 17:04.43 | PeTeRB | Azar: Just take them out of /etc/modules :| |
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| 17:05.07 | _R_R | oh, and I want them to be able to change their samba password along with the linux account password |
| 17:05.08 | Azar | PeTeRB I will do that, you think that will be enough? |
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| 17:05.28 | PeTeRB | Azar: Should be. |
| 17:05.30 | cahoot | Azar: they won't pop in by themselves |
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| 17:06.31 | gobbo | hi ppl, i installed ipw2200 but when doing "iwconfig" it simply says: no wireless extensions |
| 17:07.40 | _R_R | no-one knows a package that might provide what I'm looking for ? :( |
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| 17:08.46 | gobbo | anyone? |
| 17:09.06 | oskie | is it just me, or does google need to add more dns servers? it takes ages to look up www.google.com here... |
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| 17:09.42 | K_Dallas | oskie: try google.fr google.de google.ca |
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| 17:09.51 | PeTeRB | oskie: Define "takes ages" |
| 17:09.57 | tabris|away | oskie: google uses akamai for DNS |
| 17:09.57 | _R_R | gobbo: did you install firmware, wireless usually requires firmware |
| 17:10.03 | xtension | _R_R change the pass from where ? |
| 17:10.08 | gobbo | _R_R: yeah, i did |
| 17:10.17 | xtension | _R_R from the clients ? |
| 17:10.19 | gobbo | and i used module-assist and it didnt complain |
| 17:10.39 | slashzul | my pc has a second nic card with a private network - whats the command to route to this new network |
| 17:10.44 | _R_R | xtension: either from the client (both windows and linux machines) or a browser (I guess the second is easier) |
| 17:10.48 | xtension | _R_R theres a win95 for that dont remember which one |
| 17:10.55 | xtension | _R_R app |
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| 17:11.09 | _R_R | gobbo: does dmesg tell you something? |
| 17:11.12 | oskie | PeTeRB: probably 3-5 seconds |
| 17:11.19 | PeTeRB | oskie: It's you |
| 17:11.34 | xtension | _R_R its in the samba docs on the net anyways |
| 17:11.44 | Ungy | slashzul man interfaces |
| 17:11.53 | oskie | PeTeRB: hehe.. |
| 17:12.03 | Ungy | slashzul, man route |
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| 17:12.10 | _R_R | xtension: ok... thanks, I'll search for it (no cgiscripts you know of, guess that wouldn't be a very difficult thing to make) |
| 17:12.20 | PeTeRB | oskie: Is it only google? |
| 17:12.26 | gobbo | it says: Jun 2 19:11:55 localhost kernel: ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.3 |
| 17:12.26 | gobbo | Jun 2 19:11:55 localhost kernel: ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2004 Intel Corporation |
| 17:12.42 | xtension | _R_R no also havent read about some browser iface |
| 17:12.48 | gobbo | which looks good, huh? |
| 17:13.04 | _R_R | xtension: ok.. looking on samba.org now |
| 17:13.09 | oskie | PeTeRB: yeah.. |
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| 17:13.18 | Petaris | bbrazil: I am still having trouble getting the service working |
| 17:13.21 | gobbo | but iwconfig: lo no wireless extensions. |
| 17:13.21 | gobbo | eth0 no wireless extensions. |
| 17:13.21 | gobbo | eth1 no wireless extensions. |
| 17:13.21 | gobbo | sit0 no wireless extensions |
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| 17:13.32 | EdibleText | slashzul, also 'echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" |
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| 17:13.54 | PeTeRB | !tell gobbo about flood |
| 17:13.59 | jethro | gobbo: /msg dpkg paste |
| 17:14.07 | _R_R | gobbo: your kernel doesn't find it, probably your kernel doesn't have the required drivers |
| 17:14.07 | slashzul | why echo "1" , im not ip forwarding, just trying to connect to this new network |
| 17:14.15 | bbrazil | Petaris: could you put up your configs again? |
| 17:14.23 | Petaris | yeah, just a min |
| 17:14.24 | gobbo | yeah, i know about floods, sorry ... |
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| 17:14.36 | jethro | gobbo: learn about paste |
| 17:14.51 | jethro | gobbo: ask dpkg about it |
| 17:15.07 | EdibleText | slashzul, I misunderstood.. thought perhaps you were building a gw |
| 17:15.14 | gobbo | jethro: its okay, i know it |
| 17:15.34 | Ungy | slashzul, man route |
| 17:15.44 | slashzul | it worked! route add -net 172.16.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth5 |
| 17:15.53 | gobbo | _R_R: um, what do you mean. my kernel is 2.6 |
| 17:16.10 | _R_R | gobbo: ever heard about drivers?? |
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| 17:16.41 | gobbo | _R_R: yeah, but i thought, i installed them! otherwise i couldnt do "modprobe ipw2200" - or? sorry, am kinda newbie |
| 17:16.52 | Azar | is the emu10k1 |
| 17:16.53 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.59 | Ungy | slashzul, congrates |
| 17:17.19 | asg | !emu10k1 |
| 17:17.19 | dpkg | it has been said that emu10k1 is the OSS driver for the chipset found in the SoundBlaster Live! cards. |
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| 17:17.35 | Azar | wow, thanks |
| 17:17.36 | Mousey | hi |
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| 17:18.06 | Azar | asg what about snd_emu10k1 |
| 17:18.06 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:18.10 | xtension | _R_R did you find it ? |
| 17:18.12 | asg | Azar: that's the ALSA driver |
| 17:18.13 | _R_R | gobbo: installing a new wireless card in linux, first thing to do: figure out the chipset and google for it. Is it supported by linux? In the kernel? Maybe you need to patch a kernel (you have to when you got a acx111 like I do) |
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| 17:18.20 | xtension | _R_R its called poledit.exe |
| 17:18.31 | Petaris | bbrazil: http://katerina.frederic.k12.wi.us/code/ircd_frederic.conf |
| 17:18.34 | xtension | _R_R its a policy editor i guess |
| 17:18.38 | Azar | I see.. |
| 17:18.39 | _R_R | xtension: thanks... I stumbled upon something called winbind |
| 17:18.45 | Mousey | anyone know if there'll be a fix for LVM on root directories not booting right in the latest kernel-image-2.6.11? |
| 17:18.46 | Petaris | bbrazil: http://katerina.frederic.k12.wi.us/code/hybserv.conf |
| 17:18.47 | tarzeau | Petaris: :) |
| 17:18.55 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: yeah i'm here mr. bobbleman |
| 17:19.01 | xtension | _R_R ok |
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| 17:19.13 | gobbo | _R_R: i did that and there is a special page for the intel i have. it says, ipw2200 is just great. i did all the steps, but when it came to "iwconfig", the wlan card was missing ... |
| 17:19.22 | Petaris | bbrazil: I borrowed your config layout, it was easier to understand then the stock one |
| 17:19.33 | Petaris | bbrazil: hope you don't mind |
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| 17:19.46 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: and the server is started, do we have friends who want to join? |
| 17:19.48 | asg | gobbo: /msg dpkg ipw2200 |
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| 17:20.04 | bbrazil | Petaris: ah, the S line shouldn't have the services- |
| 17:20.07 | _R_R | gobbo: hmm, ok... perhaps lspci will give you some more info (don't know if lspci give pc cards though) |
| 17:20.19 | jethro | tarzeau: I m joining |
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| 17:20.46 | bbrazil | Petaris: you might also want to remove the words 'matrix' and 'intersocs' from the comments |
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| 17:21.08 | balou67 | hi all... |
| 17:21.13 | gobbo | oh, there is a certain channel for that driver ... interesting - i will ask there first |
| 17:21.15 | Petaris | bbrazil: oops, missed some |
| 17:21.19 | gobbo | lpci btw doestn show it |
| 17:21.46 | Petaris | bbrazil: what should the S: line be? The ircd server? |
| 17:21.46 | bbrazil | Petaris: and the user's block |
| 17:21.47 | bbrazil | Petaris: yes |
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| 17:22.43 | bbrazil | Petaris: also the '*serv*' was added due to some abuse we had, throttle_time=0 was suggested by someone else on the network to stop BitchX from DOSing |
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| 17:23.33 | StFS | hello. isn't there some specific way of changing file ownership / file permissions of files that are installed/managed by the package manager so that future updates to that package doesn't overwrite the changes I need to make to the ownership/permission of the files? |
| 17:23.37 | spoopin | asg: hi. |
| 17:23.53 | balou67 | I have a problem with su (whereas kdesu and first logins on either term, with either account work all well), it won't let me su from user to root (authentication failure). It's quite recent, does anyone had the same pb? |
| 17:23.54 | asg | spoopin: sup, looks like network issues |
| 17:24.22 | spoopin | asg: yeah. We dipped for a minute or two |
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| 17:24.39 | asg | spoopin: right |
| 17:24.49 | Petaris | bbrazil: what about the user block? |
| 17:24.55 | spoopin | asg: I needed mrtg too, didn't I |
| 17:25.02 | asg | spoopin: ah, yes. |
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| 17:25.20 | spoopin | asg: quite. I forgot about that one |
| 17:25.22 | Petaris | bbrazil: oh, I don't have one for normal users |
| 17:25.25 | Petaris | whoops |
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| 17:25.27 | asg | spoopin: no worries |
| 17:25.30 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Do I need pygame if I use -d X and -s linux ? |
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| 17:25.45 | spoopin | asg: I got it now. |
| 17:26.34 | spoopin | asg: do you have and init.d to start chrooted services or should I fabricate one? |
| 17:26.42 | bbrazil | Petaris: sorry, the auth block |
| 17:26.49 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: i have no idea, ask developer arigo in #bub-n-bros ;) |
| 17:26.59 | asg | spoopin: just fab one |
| 17:27.00 | Petaris | bbrazil: yeah just found that one |
| 17:27.22 | spoopin | asg: alright. Lunch first, though :) |
| 17:27.29 | asg | spoopin: enjoy, have a bit for me. |
| 17:27.37 | spoopin | asg: ;) |
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| 17:27.59 | FlimFlamMan | thomask7, you were right - easy setup |
| 17:28.06 | bbrazil | Petaris: and that notice above the oper block (don't ask). I assume you understand what have_ident=yes will do? |
| 17:29.02 | Petaris | bbrazil: nope, I don't |
| 17:29.14 | bbrazil | Petaris: requires an identd to be running |
| 17:29.22 | Petaris | but It kept complaining about identd |
| 17:29.35 | tarzeau | damn lemmings stealers! |
| 17:29.38 | jethro | !win me |
| 17:29.40 | dpkg | Congratulations, jethro! You have won the US presidency! |
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| 17:29.49 | quetzalcoatl | hi |
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| 17:29.56 | bbrazil | Petaris: note also that your present oper block assumes an identd (change to '~Petaris@...) |
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| 17:30.13 | Spec | !lemmings |
| 17:30.13 | dpkg | No, no lemmings, pinguins are better. (ask me about pingus) |
| 17:30.21 | Spec | !pingus |
| 17:30.21 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pingus is a free lemmings clone, or http://pingus.seul.org, or the plural of 'pingu' (penguin) |
| 17:30.26 | Spec | ooo, awesome |
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| 17:30.32 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: It seems that I won't be able to play today, ssh host's connection is slow today :/ |
| 17:30.37 | braindead_moron | anyone know what man pages to find the file test stuff in? Like if( -f somefile )... I want to know what the -f means and what other possibilities are? |
| 17:30.39 | tarzeau | Spec: we have http://bub-n-bros.sf.net special lemmings levels |
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| 17:30.45 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: pity ;) |
| 17:30.52 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: I know... |
| 17:30.53 | Spec | pingus site is down |
| 17:30.57 | StFS | braindead_moron: man test |
| 17:30.59 | Azar | hmm this is getting so mixed up: alsaconf it generates an empty /etc/modprobe.conf file . With that file in place, the module in question will be loaded when the "snd" module is loaded. But this seems to create problems for some... is that the mix of discover/hotplug/alsaconf confuse the system and the user? |
| 17:31.00 | Spec | oh snap, it's the little dudes from frozen-bubble |
| 17:31.06 | Spec | kinda |
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| 17:31.17 | quetzalcoatl | from time to time, my HDD is being used a lot but top does not report any process eating CPU cycles. Do you know how to find the process using my HDD ? |
| 17:31.24 | Azar | are the discover/hotplug/alsaconf working ok together? |
| 17:31.42 | Petaris | bbrazil: with the ' or withough |
| 17:31.53 | quetzalcoatl | Azar, are you talking to me ? |
| 17:31.55 | bbrazil | Petaris: the relavent bit is the ~ |
| 17:31.58 | StFS | quetzalcoatl: do you know what file is being read? |
| 17:32.02 | Azar | quetzalcoatl: no |
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| 17:32.05 | bbrazil | Petaris: easiest just to use *@ |
| 17:32.11 | Petaris | bbrazil: ahh |
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| 17:32.25 | quetzalcoatl | StFS, no, I know nothing |
| 17:32.45 | Petaris | bbrazil: refresh and see if I got it right |
| 17:32.45 | Spec | what is bubbros? |
| 17:32.46 | StFS | quetzalcoatl: if you know what file is causing the workout on the HDD then you can use "fuser /location/of/file" |
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| 17:32.58 | StFS | quetzalcoatl: how much RAM do you have? |
| 17:33.06 | quetzalcoatl | 512 Mo |
| 17:33.10 | quetzalcoatl | 512 MB sorry |
| 17:33.26 | StFS | quetzalcoatl: your computer might be swapping |
| 17:33.27 | Azar | !flatter the entire channel |
| 17:33.34 | jethro | hah double bubbling |
| 17:33.46 | Azar | :) |
| 17:33.54 | bbrazil | Petaris: that looks okay |
| 17:34.12 | schue | quetzalcoatl: http://lpintop.tripod.com/oldiesconnection/id51.html |
| 17:34.13 | quetzalcoatl | I just use icewm, some servers (apache mysql proftpd) and sometimes firefox and amarok |
| 17:34.34 | StFS | quetzalcoatl: :) as I said... your computer might be swapping ;) |
| 17:34.45 | Petaris | bbrazil: anything in hybserv that looks out of place now? |
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| 17:35.08 | quetzalcoatl | don't you think 512 is enough ? |
| 17:35.08 | Petaris | bbrazil: http://katerina.frederic.k12.wi.us/code/hybserv.conf |
| 17:35.34 | berzerka | hello everyone. i want to set up nfs file sharing for the hosts here in my local network. therefore i need to sync the user ids etc. on all hosts. is there any alternative to using NIS for that? because i read several times that its use is discouraged. (passwd file transmitted in plaintext...) |
| 17:35.45 | bbrazil | Petaris: one thing - your O line is off |
| 17:35.52 | asg | berzerka: openldap |
| 17:36.01 | StFS | quetzalcoatl: not really no... but of course I don't know if this is the case or not... you might want to check the memory usage when it does this the next time |
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| 17:36.16 | balou67 | bye all^^ |
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| 17:36.20 | Petaris | bbrazil: what should it look like? |
| 17:36.23 | quetzalcoatl | StFS, how can I check ? |
| 17:36.28 | berzerka | thanx asg. is that the system commonly used for that purpose? |
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| 17:36.35 | StFS | quetzalcoatl: top |
| 17:36.38 | asg | berzerka: it is starting to replace NIS for such things, yes. |
| 17:36.39 | bbrazil | Petaris: connect to hybrid, do a /whois yournick and use that |
| 17:36.51 | berzerka | asg: nice, thank you. |
| 17:36.53 | bbrazil | Petaris: that won't affect services hooking in though |
| 17:37.07 | bbrazil | Petaris: this is for a school? |
| 17:37.15 | Petaris | bbrazil: yes |
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| 17:37.39 | Jacobo221 | can I know the return status of a command which is not a child of my shell? |
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| 17:38.46 | quetzalcoatl | StFS, what do I have to look for |
| 17:38.47 | quetzalcoatl | ? |
| 17:38.50 | bbrazil | Petaris: you might want to restrict things a bit, for instance you cna allow only services admins to register channels |
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| 17:39.07 | Azar | commenting (#) a line in /etc/modules has the same effect as "removing" a module out of there ? |
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| 17:39.16 | asg | Azar: yes |
| 17:39.19 | bbrazil | Azar: should do |
| 17:39.25 | Azar | thanks guys |
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| 17:39.42 | Petaris | bbrazil: how do I do that? |
| 17:39.44 | PeTeRB | Azar: Apart from the fact that commenting makes it easier to restore, yes |
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| 17:39.55 | bbrazil | Petaris: worry about getting services connected first |
| 17:39.59 | Anthro | Where can I find a word list. There used to be one in /usr/dict/words, but I can't seem to find it now. |
| 17:40.04 | Petaris | bbrazil: ok |
| 17:40.15 | quittt | !zeta |
| 17:40.16 | dpkg | i heard zeta is an closed operating system based on BeOS from Be, Inc. It is developed by yellowtab.com and it is CLOSED source, so you have to pay for it. |
| 17:40.19 | bbrazil | Petaris: make sure you keep a copy of your current settings.conf, you'll need it as a help file |
| 17:40.31 | Petaris | bbrazil: refresh the hybserv.conf and see if that looks right for O: |
| 17:40.43 | Azar | PeTeRB, yes I find it more convenient to comment something I do not want to use rather than removing it |
| 17:40.56 | asg | Anthro: dictionaries-common |
| 17:41.12 | asg | Anthro: also, check /usr/share/dict |
| 17:41.21 | bbrazil | Petaris: that looks okay |
| 17:41.22 | quittt | is sarge released? |
| 17:41.27 | asg | quittt: /topic |
| 17:41.36 | PeTeRB | !topicbadger quittt |
| 17:41.37 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that quittt didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 17:41.57 | Anthro | asg: There's a symlink in /usr/share/dict, but it doesn't point to an existing file. |
| 17:41.58 | Azar | !topicsmite Azar |
| 17:41.58 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Azar. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 17:42.07 | Petaris | bbrazil: right, I'll upload it and give it a try |
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| 17:43.14 | quittt | I know what is a top... it is what show women's breasts |
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| 17:43.30 | asg | Anthro: then install dictionaries-common |
| 17:43.34 | quittt | ic when I drink a lot of water fastly |
| 17:44.14 | Anthro | asg: It's installed. The symlink goes to /etc/dictionaries-common/words, which doesn't exist. |
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| 17:44.37 | asg | Anthro: then you must have deleted it. apt-get install --reinstall |
| 17:44.37 | Petaris | bbrazil: still no go |
| 17:44.44 | K_Dallas | so you do badger badger mushroom mushroom song around here ;) |
| 17:45.17 | Petaris | bbrazil: I get this in the log Warning: /etc/hybserv/settings.conf:87 Unknown directive [PipeFile] (ignoring) and Unable to read /var/run/ircd/hybserv.pid |
| 17:45.46 | asg | Anthro: or install wamerican or wenglish |
| 17:46.05 | bbrazil | Petaris: is hybserv starting? |
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| 17:46.49 | Petaris | bbrazil: it indicates yes in the log but when I go to stop the service it says its not running |
| 17:47.03 | Petaris | hrm |
| 17:47.11 | bbrazil | Petaris: check for it with ps |
| 17:47.43 | Anthro | asg: It was wamerican I was missing. |
| 17:47.49 | bbrazil | Petaris: I assume you've connected to hybrid and /oper'ed |
| 17:47.58 | Petaris | bbrazil: doesn't appear to be running |
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| 17:48.24 | bbrazil | Petaris: check around the permissions of that pid file |
| 17:48.55 | Petaris | bbrazil: no, I haven't oper'ed but have connected to ircd-hybrid |
| 17:49.08 | bbrazil | Petaris: /oper and /umode +abfiklorsuwxz |
| 17:49.26 | bbrazil | Petaris: one of those flags will tell you every time hybserv tries to connect in |
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| 17:49.45 | berzerka | which ftp-server would you guys recommend? vsftpd? |
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| 17:50.04 | Petaris | bbrazil: I get "Only few of mere mortals may try to enter the twilight zone" |
| 17:50.28 | bbrazil | Petaris: that indicates that your oper block is incorrect |
| 17:50.32 | Seb | how do I get rid of this message in my syslog (I'm using 2.6): modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command for sound_slot_1 |
| 17:50.56 | Petaris | bbrazil: that hybserv.pid doesn't appear to exist either |
| 17:51.12 | DA_ | hi, my debian box fails to boot with "Kernel panic, no init found. Try passing init= option to kernel" any suggestions? |
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| 17:51.28 | Seb | DA_: add the right initrd line to your bootloader |
| 17:51.38 | Seb | DA_: in case the error message wasn't explicit enough |
| 17:51.42 | DA_ | Seb: i dont use an initrd |
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| 17:51.49 | tarzeau | RichiH: QUICK BONUS! |
| 17:51.53 | tarzeau | RichiH: gnu.ethz.ch |
| 17:51.55 | Seb | DA_: obviously you do |
| 17:52.06 | DA_ | Seb: uhhh.. but i dont lol |
| 17:52.19 | K_Dallas | but you do |
| 17:52.22 | K_Dallas | ;) |
| 17:52.24 | kooldev | DA_: did u custom compile that kernel ? |
| 17:52.25 | bbrazil | Petaris: strace it |
| 17:52.35 | Seb | DA_: let me put it this way: your kernel wouldn't complain about it if you didn't need one |
| 17:52.38 | DA_ | kooldev: no its stock 2.4.18-bf24 |
| 17:52.44 | Seb | precisely |
| 17:52.47 | Seb | which uses initrd |
| 17:53.11 | kooldev | DA_: what did you do right b4 that happened changes wise ? |
| 17:53.14 | DA_ | but there hasnt been an initrd on that box for months and its booted fine |
| 17:53.14 | jazzmans | SAdw Trsbsd |
| 17:53.27 | bbrazil | Petaris: I'm going to head home now |
| 17:53.32 | Seb | DA_: answering kooldev'd question should be an epiphany for ya |
| 17:53.36 | Petaris | bbrazil: ok, thanks for the help |
| 17:53.42 | quetzalcoatl | StFS, thanks |
| 17:53.43 | DA_ | kooldev: nothing. its been up for a week without me touching it, im thinking it rebooted due to power failure and now it shows me that |
| 17:53.53 | Seb | riiiiight |
| 17:53.54 | shingouz | !tell DA_ about real kernel |
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| 17:54.25 | asg | Seb: no, the bf24 kernel didn't use an initrd |
| 17:54.25 | DA_ | shingouz: yes i know ive been working on a new kernel |
| 17:54.27 | berzerka | anyone a proposal which ftp-server to install for 'home-use'? or one which i should certainly not use? |
| 17:54.28 | shizz | im so very bored. |
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| 17:54.37 | kooldev | DA_: well I would track what happened in that week and go from there |
| 17:54.40 | DA_ | asg: ahah! i KNEW i didnt have an initrd |
| 17:54.47 | Seb | asg: you sure about that ? Then I stand corrected. |
| 17:54.52 | JoshH | berzerka: proftpd or vsftpd are the only ones i would use |
| 17:55.05 | asg | Seb: yes |
| 17:55.09 | Seb | asg: k |
| 17:55.10 | rob_lt | I'm trying to view a flash page and there is no text in the menu. This isn't the first time I've been to a flash site where the text does not render at all. Any suggestions? |
| 17:55.14 | DA_ | kooldev: stupid hackers... why did i give them shells on my box? |
| 17:55.16 | asg | Seb: every other kernel, including new sarge kernels, use initrd though. |
| 17:55.35 | berzerka | JoshH: any advantages/disadvantages of those two? |
| 17:55.36 | Seb | asg: this is prolly where my confusion comes from. Thanks for the clarification. |
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| 17:55.44 | asg | Seb: it is possible that the kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 package uses one but the actual installed bf2.4 kernel with woody doesn't. |
| 17:55.45 | kooldev | DA_ lol u sure that makes THEM stupid ? |
| 17:55.50 | JoshH | they are considered the most secure, and the easiest to set up. |
| 17:55.53 | Seb | kooldev: hahaha |
| 17:56.01 | DA_ | kooldev: no it probably doesnt lol |
| 17:56.01 | Seb | asg: I see |
| 17:56.09 | kooldev | :P |
| 17:56.28 | MrKeuner | hi, anybody having problem with cups recently? When I try to add a new printer, the device list appears to be empty. What may be the problem? foomatic? |
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| 17:59.19 | berzerka | JoshH: thank you |
| 18:00.36 | Azar | damn wiki has lots of dead links to topics of interest |
| 18:01.09 | asg | Azar: the debian wiki? it was porn spammed some time back and we haven't fully recovered all things yet. |
| 18:01.23 | Azar | oh I see, asg |
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| 18:01.40 | xtension | asg hehe |
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| 18:01.52 | xtension | asg recover the pron ... |
| 18:02.03 | Azar | I am trying to pinpoint the steps BEFORE I commit to alsa_base installations and I gather info |
| 18:02.16 | asg | xtension: well, tarzeau is known to be a fan so that could go either way |
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| 18:02.46 | tarzeau | asg: fan of what? |
| 18:02.47 | Azar | from what I know , wiki was highly disliked by the contributors, no wonder now it is boycotted |
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| 18:03.42 | usn | hi all |
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| 18:07.47 | JasonBoxatWork2 | Which directory am I supposed to be putting my ignore rules in for logcheck? I have /etc/logcheck/violations.ignore.d/local, but that's not being used afaict |
| 18:08.20 | asg | tarzeau: pron ;) |
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| 18:08.47 | Azar | I wish Sarge or at least the 2.6 kernel series to automate the switch between OSS and ALSA... that would make the life so much easier |
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| 18:09.28 | cahoot | Azar: my impression is that it does |
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| 18:11.57 | penguin_ | Is there a way to remove selected newlines with sed? |
| 18:11.57 | Azar | cahoot, I found that I have to prepare before or after installation of ALSA to chase, identify and disable the OSS modules, I guess this could have been done automatically by simply instructing debconf to do so |
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| 18:12.41 | xtension | penguin_ sed -e "s/^$//g" maybe |
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| 18:12.51 | xtension | penguin_ grep them |
| 18:12.54 | penguin_ | that removes empty lines |
| 18:13.01 | xtension | penguin_ yes |
| 18:13.12 | penguin_ | I want to join two lines |
| 18:13.42 | Azar | ..this way, being 100% all oss drivers are disabled if sound or alsa still are not working one part of the problem could have been eliminated and I could move on to find other bugs |
| 18:13.45 | xtension | penguin_ sed -e "s/$//g" ? |
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| 18:14.01 | xtension | penguin_ or \n is eol |
| 18:14.01 | penguin_ | That doesnt work |
| 18:14.22 | sneex | \n is a record separator |
| 18:14.27 | sneex | not eol per se |
| 18:14.36 | xtension | sneex in sed ? |
| 18:14.38 | sneex | think variable length records |
| 18:14.38 | asg | penguin_: tr '\n' ' ' |
| 18:14.54 | sneex | y///; |
| 18:15.02 | sneex | y/\n//; |
| 18:15.02 | Solitarius | Ahem. Does someone have a nicely fresh sarge install with postgresql on it? I just want to check if a bug is or isn't present on it and I want someone to double check me. |
| 18:15.28 | PeTeRB | Solitarius: Did you check the BTS? |
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| 18:15.53 | xtension | sneex i suppose thats yes ? |
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| 18:16.22 | sneex | \n is the newline character, nothing more |
| 18:16.40 | xtension | ok sneex |
| 18:17.07 | sneex | i mean, after all, data is data -- why should \n be special |
| 18:17.28 | Solitarius | PeTeRB: Yes. Even submitted one. But I would love to be double checked I don't want to lose someone time if It's only about me. |
| 18:17.55 | kooldev | any one has uml working under Debian ? |
| 18:17.58 | xtension | sneex so what is the diff between eol and newline ? |
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| 18:18.49 | sneex | nothing if the \n is what you call the end of a variable length record (and wqe agree thats a line) |
| 18:19.06 | sneex | s/wqe/we/ |
| 18:19.37 | xtension | sneex i guess you have a nicer way of saying the same |
| 18:19.49 | sneex | in other words -- what do *you* want it to be? |
| 18:20.02 | xtension | sneex money ? |
| 18:20.05 | sneex | lol |
| 18:20.39 | sneex | brb |
| 18:21.10 | PeTeRB | !confuse xtension |
| 18:21.11 | dpkg | Yes, where was my hamster today, xtension? shirts of the dictatorship of micronesia with extra herring |
| 18:22.04 | sneex | @fruitsmack dpkg |
| 18:22.22 | asg | !fruitsmite sneex |
| 18:22.26 | abrotman | heh |
| 18:22.27 | sneex | thats it |
| 18:22.28 | sneex | lol |
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| 18:22.41 | abrotman | !smack sneex |
| 18:22.49 | sneex | :P |
| 18:22.57 | Solitarius | I'm speaking with some postgresql peoples too. Uhoh. They say it's a bug in the timezone handling of the OS. I'm confuse now. |
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| 18:23.09 | abrotman | bug how ? |
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| 18:23.23 | sneex | !smack dpkg |
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| 18:23.44 | abrotman | Solitarius: how is it a bug ? |
| 18:23.50 | emerson | Hi, somebody have a driver for Adaptec 2200S in Debian. Or a URL with a tutorial about this ... Tks |
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| 18:24.14 | sneex | try a slash |
| 18:24.24 | abrotman | \ |
| 18:24.38 | sneex | booooooo |
| 18:24.58 | sneex | ok, enough fun today, off to teach school (god help the students ... ) |
| 18:25.17 | asg | sneex: don't forget your big stick |
| 18:25.39 | sneex | woot |
| 18:26.05 | sneex | Teaching Linux doesnt require a big stick -- that would be a windows class =/ |
| 18:26.05 | Solitarius | abrotman: I don't know. I'm just trying to follow those postgrepsql peoples. If you, or someone else want to test it, you can try those three SQL statement in sarge or unstable psql: SELECT NOW(); SET TIME ZONE INTERVAL '-05:00' HOUR TO MINUTE; SELECT NOW(); |
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| 18:26.17 | Solitarius | or check out http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=311533 |
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| 18:26.22 | asg | sneex: oh, just use a lart then |
| 18:26.25 | emerson | I need info and driver about Adaptec RAID 2200S in Debian. Somebody can help me? |
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| 18:26.46 | sneex | be a lert - the world needs more lerts |
| 18:26.47 | abrotman | Solitarius: IIRC .. when you install postgresql .. it asks you which date/time format you want |
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| 18:26.57 | gorby | guys if some one does an ssh login whilst system is booting up is it possible bootmisc.sh might not run? |
| 18:27.05 | asg | sneex: apt-get install asr-manpages ; man lart |
| 18:27.06 | greycat | gorby: no. |
| 18:27.08 | emacsen | gorby: no |
| 18:27.15 | emacsen | greycat: heya |
| 18:27.20 | greycat | hi |
| 18:27.43 | abrotman | greycat: run .. it's emacsen .. he will assimilate you |
| 18:27.58 | Solitarius | abrotman: Oh, it does? Maybe I should look into that. I'll try to purge and reinstall and select both options. Maybe one choice make it bugs and the other don't. |
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| 18:28.06 | abrotman | Solitarius: dpkg-reconfigure |
| 18:28.20 | abrotman | Solitarius: erm .. i think you can reconfigure that option |
| 18:28.43 | abrotman | Solitarius: ask the #postgresql people where you'd find out which option you chose(assuming it's a config file option and not a dpkg option) |
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| 18:29.04 | gorby | I have some wireless settings in bootmisc, but for some reason they are not running, i must ssh via eth0 and run bootmisc b4 wireless works.. |
| 18:29.25 | pulaski | :q |
| 18:29.35 | abrotman | that's a new one |
| 18:29.41 | gorby | v strange... |
| 18:29.44 | greycat | bootmisc b4? what a strange command. |
| 18:30.02 | PeTeRB | !tell gorby about b4 |
| 18:30.04 | abrotman | you sank my battleship! |
| 18:30.13 | asg | abrotman: bah, left foot green! |
| 18:30.13 | Solitarius | abrotman: They are all over it.. Seem like I found something really odd. I'm not used to be the center of attention of so many peoples. |
| 18:30.21 | abrotman | asg: heh |
| 18:30.30 | gorby | sorry i meant before... |
| 18:30.35 | abrotman | Solitarius: if it's a dpkg option .. should be easy to find |
| 18:30.53 | meppl | guten abend |
| 18:31.09 | Azar | forgive my noobness please I am following some read in ALSA tutorials and it instructs me to " cp /downloads/alsa-* . |
| 18:31.10 | Azar | " I am not sure I do have a /downloads directory anywhere, mainly in the "cd /usr/src" can someone kindly enlighten me? |
| 18:31.39 | Azar | link: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=emu10k1 |
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| 18:32.26 | Azar | sorry, link is http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=VIA&card=.&chip=VIA82C686%2C+VIA8233%2C+VIA8233A%2C+VIA8235&module=via82xx |
| 18:32.36 | abrotman | Azar: #alsa .. really .. they use the stuff |
| 18:32.50 | shingouz | Azar: you trying to compile the alsa from source rather than use the debian kernels.... bad thing i think |
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| 18:33.05 | Azar | abrotman I would not have been asking here but I really do not think Debian has a /download directory anywhere |
| 18:33.22 | Azar | oh shingouz... no, just reading before commiting something |
| 18:33.26 | Kerr | is /. down O.o ? |
| 18:33.27 | PeTeRB | !moron Azar |
| 18:33.28 | dpkg | Azar: You are moron #19 |
| 18:33.43 | asg | Kerr: must mean sarge has released then |
| 18:33.44 | abrotman | !slashdot |
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| 18:33.46 | dpkg | Slashdot Headlines (10): SCO Announces Q2 2005 Results ;; History of the Apple Newton ;; The Other Side of BitTorrent ;; Yahoo! Releases New Search Tool ;; Sun Buying StorageTek for $4.1B ;; Photoshop for DNA ;; Online Shoppers Naive About Online Prices ;; Microsoft Ends Era Of Closed File Formats ;; New .XXX Top Level Domain ;; Electric Cars as Fast as Ferraris. |
| 18:33.49 | abrotman | guess not |
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| 18:34.10 | wonnita | hello! |
| 18:34.26 | abrotman | gorby: you wanna make something of it??!?!? |
| 18:34.29 | Kerr | gorby: no we're not, and we're going to spitroast you over a fire of aol cds for merely thinking otherwise. |
| 18:34.30 | shingouz | Azar: just go off to get another sound card for the thing, should be a hell of a lot easier to get working :) |
| 18:34.31 | PeTeRB | Azar: I believe you need to get a kernel that has alsa modules and install the alsa stuff, and run alsaconf. |
| 18:34.31 | xtension | wonnita .. are you gonna make me laugh ? |
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| 18:35.03 | wonnita | xtension: why?! |
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| 18:35.09 | Azar | shingouz if I would have available/dedicated slots that is what I would do, I cannot remove the chip from the kit |
| 18:35.20 | shingouz | ouch |
| 18:35.31 | shingouz | Azar: usb sound then? |
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| 18:36.11 | Azar | uh uh my PC is not quite so shiny new, ok sorry folks I bother much but I only ask when I read something and I do not understand terminology |
| 18:36.12 | kensuke | is there a good irc chanel for gtk / x developers ? |
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| 18:36.24 | abrotman | kensuke: irc.gnome.org |
| 18:36.24 | asg | kensuke: probably something on irc.gnome.org |
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| 18:36.33 | kensuke | thanks guys |
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| 18:37.04 | shingouz | Azar: the reason i mentioned the stuff is that i know you have been fighting the computer for some time already and i would like you to have the sound working too. without you busting a vessel that is |
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| 18:37.51 | abrotman | i think he should start with a fresh install .. he seems to have mucked with everything .. and i'm still not sure what his problem is :) |
| 18:37.53 | Azar | shingouz I am just reading stuff around mentally preparing for an new try at alsa |
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| 18:37.59 | Azar | :) |
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| 18:38.11 | ecarroll | !blackdown |
| 18:38.11 | dpkg | blackdown kicks ass; they're java people for linux -- http://www.blackdown.org, or a group of Sun Java products ported to Linux by the Blackdown development team. Get it at http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html, or most mirrors have aptable sections, or a group of folks who signed NDA's with Sun and got the JDK source code. they ported it to linux and put it up on blackdown.org, or shit, use java-package |
| 18:38.12 | shingouz | Azar: you sure are persistent |
| 18:38.19 | abrotman | ecarroll: /msg dpkg java |
| 18:38.41 | cbr | my gftp-gtk-2.0.18-5 crashes :( |
| 18:38.50 | abrotman | ecarroll: /msg dpkg install java |
| 18:38.55 | Azar | abrotman since last week fiasco with alsa, I reinstalled, upgraded to Sarge and got the 2.6.8 kernel, xfree86-4 and nvidia, now I am ready to fresh start again on alsa |
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| 18:39.08 | abrotman | Azar: keeping busy eh ? |
| 18:39.20 | abrotman | Azar: did you try just running alsa-conf .. or whatever it is |
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| 18:39.26 | Azar | uh I guess so, I really need to learn this stuff |
| 18:39.58 | Azar | abrotman, last time I tried all: discover 1, hotplug and alsaconf, I even installed the alpha alsa-driver |
| 18:40.02 | Azar | it was a mess |
| 18:40.09 | Azar | this time I want to make it clean |
| 18:40.26 | PeTeRB | Azar: Run alsaconf. |
| 18:40.43 | shingouz | one thing is for sure, Azar is going to be the resident alsa guru once he manages to make the computer run alsa |
| 18:40.48 | penguin_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:41.05 | Azar | PeTeRB, I want first to clean all OSS before installing alsa, then I will see if it futzis with me again |
| 18:41.27 | PeTeRB | Azar: If you installed Sarge with 2.6.8 you shouldn't have OSS at all. |
| 18:41.28 | penguin_ | Can sed get rid of newlines? |
| 18:41.40 | colter | debsums running on Sarge says the checksum for /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/modules.dep failed. Anybody know why this could be? |
| 18:41.43 | Azar | shingouz yup and when I will succeed I will help others here |
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| 18:41.52 | shingouz | Azar: :) |
| 18:42.12 | shingouz | Azar: do a howto on the topic |
| 18:42.32 | Azar | PeTeRB, my /etc/modules lists the viac82xxx_audio which seems to be the OSS module since I havent installed alsa yet, I commented it |
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| 18:42.46 | Azar | err via82cxxx_audio I ment |
| 18:43.01 | shingouz | Azar: can you modprobe -r it? |
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| 18:43.20 | Azar | um it does not return nothing yet |
| 18:43.40 | PeTeRB | Azar: Try modprobe snd-via82xx |
| 18:43.53 | Dabian | OK .. I've tampered with the darn manual long enough! How do I make my system boot with GRUB instead of Rob Levin? |
| 18:43.56 | Ungy | holy mother of god say it isn't so http://slashdot.org/articles/05/06/02/1231253.shtml?tid=109&tid=95&tid=1 |
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| 18:44.04 | Dabian | Ungy: Ehehehe. |
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| 18:44.20 | Ungy | there goes the neighborhood |
| 18:44.35 | PeTeRB | Ungy: What's that about? |
| 18:44.47 | Ungy | Open file formats for Microsoft |
| 18:44.52 | shingouz | eugh |
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| 18:44.59 | Dabian | hehe |
| 18:44.59 | Azar | hmmm commented in /etc/modules and still modprobe -r shows it is in use |
| 18:45.07 | shingouz | otoh, that is a good thing. perhaps. |
| 18:45.10 | PeTeRB | Azar: Try modprobe snd-via82xx |
| 18:45.11 | asg | Azar: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 18:45.21 | Azar | ok |
| 18:45.25 | naoliv | Hi. Where can I get some help from English l10n people? Is it there a channel on IRC? |
| 18:45.36 | shingouz | Azar: lsmod and see what uses the module |
| 18:45.45 | Ungy | PeTeRB, According to an MSDN Channel 9 interview with an Office file-format developer, the next version of Microsoft Office (Office 12) will default to newly-developed XML file formats in Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. The new formats will apparently include XML files along with other files (images, etc) inside of a Zip file. Microsoft will also be providing extensive documentation of the new format to the public through MSDN. The developer likewise |
| 18:45.45 | Ungy | announced that Microsoft would be releasing updates for Office 2000, XP, and 2003 to read and write the new formats when the new version of Office is released. If this interview is correct, it could mean the beginning of the end of Microsoft's proprietary file formats." |
| 18:46.00 | PeTeRB | Ungy: You don't need to paste /. here :| |
| 18:46.11 | naoliv | join #debian-en |
| 18:46.21 | naoliv | Ouch... :-) |
| 18:46.37 | ozzloy | i got hired for a job that requires perl. i've never done perl. what are some good perl books? |
| 18:46.45 | abrotman | Ungy: we can all read slashdot |
| 18:46.52 | asg | ozzloy: the llama and the camel |
| 18:47.06 | asg | ozzloy: oreilly.com |
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| 18:47.25 | ozzloy | asg cool, oreilly is always a good choice |
| 18:47.49 | omi__ | is there a howto for compiling gcc4? |
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| 18:47.52 | abrotman | ozzloy: or ask #perl |
| 18:47.53 | asg | ozzloy: #perl will also have other good suggestions but the 2 above are seminal works as far as Perl goes. |
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| 18:47.57 | PeTeRB | ozzloy: Maybe should've thought about that before getting that job :) |
| 18:48.16 | ozzloy | PeTeRB, they know i don't already know perl |
| 18:48.27 | PeTeRB | ozzloy: Ah, that's good. |
| 18:48.37 | asg | ozzloy: it's easy and fun, you'll have a blast. |
| 18:48.43 | ozzloy | PeTeRB, yeah, i made that clear, but they seem desperate |
| 18:48.55 | ozzloy | cuz they hired me anyways |
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| 18:49.05 | Dabian | :-) |
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| 18:49.15 | ozzloy | i don't know why i didn't think of asking #perl |
| 18:49.19 | ozzloy | duh |
| 18:49.20 | Dabian | Who cares about a micro soft? |
| 18:49.22 | Solitarius | abrotman: I did a reconfigure, it did not ask, I'll do a purge and reinstall! |
| 18:49.24 | Dabian | :))) |
| 18:49.30 | asg | Dabian: people in Neuromancer |
| 18:49.38 | Ungy | DAbian abotu 90% of the computing population |
| 18:49.43 | Dabian | How do I make my system boot with GRUB instead of LILO? |
| 18:49.48 | abrotman | Solitarius: -plow ? |
| 18:49.49 | asg | Dabian: install grub |
| 18:49.51 | Dabian | Ungy: Flush them. |
| 18:49.54 | PeTeRB | Ungy: Not quite. |
| 18:49.58 | Dabian | Ungy: They're no good. |
| 18:50.24 | Azar | wow, ok discover is not installed yet so is a good sign, hotplub has successfully blacklisted via82cxxx_audio so I am ready! thanks |
| 18:50.37 | Solitarius | abrotman: Oh, I guess I'm slow.. Remember, the postgres thing earlier? hehe |
| 18:50.47 | PeTeRB | Azar: Gah. Did you try to modprobe what I asked you to try? |
| 18:50.48 | abrotman | Solitarius: yep .. -plow may let you |
| 18:50.50 | Ungy | PeTeRB, you think not? how many people have to do things to be operable with windows users hwo many people have to change formats so MS office can read there crap how many people use winblows? |
| 18:50.59 | abrotman | Solitarius: #postgresql didn't say that was an option somewhere? |
| 18:51.06 | PeTeRB | Ungy: How many people don't know what an OS is? |
| 18:51.08 | Dabian | asg: Yeah .. I did apt-get install grub, but my system still boots from LILO???? |
| 18:51.11 | Azar | PeTeRB I cannot modprobe alsa modules yet as I did not installed it |
| 18:51.23 | greycat | Dabian: run install-grub or grub-install or whatever they call it. |
| 18:51.23 | asg | Dabian: man grub-install ; /usr/share/doc/grub/* |
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| 18:51.27 | Azar | all I needed was to elegantly get the OSS out of the way first |
| 18:51.45 | Ungy | PeTeRB, that may be true but slap a KDE or Gnome desktop in front of those same people and watch them freak out |
| 18:51.57 | Dabian | asg: I read it .. I even ran Boot-admin and set up GRUB .. but it claimed my menu.lst was missing or something. |
| 18:52.00 | abrotman | Solitarius: you did ? |
| 18:52.05 | shingouz | Azar: i have had a couple of computers which get seriously screwed with hotplug, usbmgr and cardmgr do the job for the hotpluggable devices while the rest is manually configured. discover has made my head hurt way too many times already so i do not install it anymore |
| 18:52.11 | PeTeRB | Ungy: They don't care about MS |
| 18:52.13 | Dabian | greycat: But I don't understand which options to feed it? |
| 18:52.14 | ozzloy | thanx all |
| 18:52.22 | Dabian | greycat: I know what is my root .. etc. |
| 18:52.27 | Dabian | greycat: But I don't understand. |
| 18:52.44 | Dabian | greycat: I dont boot any other OS (save from cd or qemu) |
| 18:53.06 | Solitarius | abrotman: They talked about a ./configure --help and that interger timestamps could look cool to someone that does not know it's buggy.. "Hey Cool! Integer calcul. Must be Fast!" feeling. |
| 18:53.19 | Solitarius | abrotman: I did a -plow it did not ask about timestamps. |
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| 18:53.38 | abrotman | Solitarius: hrm .. i'm almost certain it asked me about time/date formats |
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| 18:54.03 | Solitarius | abrotman: Must be me then. Must be me.. Reinstalling.. |
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| 18:54.27 | Dabian | OK .. I guess its my english failing again ... |
| 18:54.37 | PeTeRB | Azar: One question. 2.6.x? |
| 18:54.38 | Dabian | How do I configure GRUB so I can grub-install it? |
| 18:54.51 | bobbens | man grub |
| 18:54.52 | Dabian | !nickometer PeTeRB |
| 18:54.52 | dpkg | 'PeTeRB' is 98.670% lame, dabian |
| 18:54.57 | Dabian | ok |
| 18:55.04 | PeTeRB | Dabian: I am aware of that. |
| 18:55.18 | Dabian | PeTeRB: I wasn't sure what value it had. :) |
| 18:55.25 | Dabian | which? |
| 18:55.43 | PeTeRB | !nickometer peterb |
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| 18:55.55 | Dabian | PeTeRB: I am just getting annoyed with the GRUB documentation .. for one thing, it appears to be unavailable in DANISH. |
| 18:56.04 | PeTeRB | Heh |
| 18:56.20 | shingouz | Dabian: try swedish |
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| 18:56.25 | greycat | imagine that... something wrong with GNU documentation. |
| 18:56.37 | Dabian | shingouz: swedish is worse than english - for me. |
| 18:56.44 | jethro | that's impossible |
| 18:56.53 | shingouz | Dabian: ouch |
| 18:56.54 | asg | greycat: they just piped it through /usr/games/chef before commiting it |
| 18:56.59 | Dabian | greycat: Instead of making fun, you could give me a hint. |
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| 18:57.16 | deathdellic | hello man grub |
| 18:57.19 | Dabian | shingouz: Maybe german docs are available .. but thats about the same as english for me. |
| 18:57.21 | greycat | Dabian: I have no hints to give. |
| 18:57.26 | deathdellic | type man grub |
| 18:57.35 | deathdellic | in term |
| 18:57.44 | greycat | Dabian: and I'm not making fun of you. I *HATE* the stupid atrocious despicable horrendous GNU "documentation". |
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| 18:58.01 | greycat | deathdellic: it says basically "sorry, the real documentation is in info pages" |
| 18:58.04 | Dabian | deathdellic: I even tried the infopages .. they just babble on about how great grub is, and how I make it brew coffee .. but nothing about how I configure it so I can actually install it. |
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| 18:58.15 | greycat | !using grub |
| 18:58.19 | greycat | !listkeys grub |
| 18:58.21 | jethro | greycat: and the info page is pretty much the same |
| 18:58.21 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'grub' by key (15 of 17): grub ;; grub advantages ;; grub boot ;; grub devices ;; grub errors ;; grub howto ;; grub install ;; grub read error ;; grub rules ;; grub sanity check ;; grub-install ;; grub-menu-floppy ;; grubby ;; install grub ;; ntgrub. |
| 18:58.28 | Spec | !grub advantages |
| 18:58.29 | dpkg | i guess grub advantages is it doesn't need a /boot partition to work, it's multiboot compliant, it doesn't need to be reloaded when kernel is updated and it's able to boot the Hurd (the core of the GNU Operating System) |
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| 18:58.29 | greycat | !grub install |
| 18:58.29 | dpkg | hmm... grub install is /usr/sbin/grub, grub> root (hd0,1) grub> setup (hd0), courtesy of Moebius Woody's grub package is easier to install (Without floppy, too), or (errors may not be as fatal as they appear) |
| 18:58.41 | greycat | !grub-install |
| 18:58.41 | dpkg | if it dosen't work, try making the "sed -e .." lines one line instead of two |
| 18:58.42 | jethro | or I missed a package |
| 18:58.47 | greycat | *what*? |
| 18:59.07 | Spec | that was helpful |
| 18:59.15 | greycat | !install grub |
| 18:59.15 | dpkg | [install grub] "apt-get -y install grub && mkdir /boot/grub && cp /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* /boot/grub/ && cp /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst /boot/grub/ && grub" then type "root (hd0,0)" where hd0 is primary master and 0 is first partition and "setup (hd0)", or if you have a separate /boot partition, see http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-faq.en.html#TOCq11 |
| 18:59.29 | greycat | bah, I bet every one of these is obsolete. |
| 18:59.34 | Dabian | greycat: I don't understand if my harddisk is hd0 .. I think its /dev/hde |
| 18:59.39 | Dabian | oh ok |
| 19:00.07 | Spec | look at the gentoo handbook under the grub installation section, it's very clear and good documentation |
| 19:00.13 | jethro | Dabian: hda would be hd0 |
| 19:00.18 | greycat | Spec: URL? |
| 19:00.19 | kensuke | MrScotty: if someone was to start learning to program x apps, what would be the best libraries ? I mean, I dont want to spend a whole bunch of time to find out that Ive learned the vb5 equivalent ;) |
| 19:00.26 | Spec | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 |
| 19:00.31 | Dabian | jethro: Right .. so hde is .. hd4 ? |
| 19:00.39 | emacsen | what happens when you have more than 26 drives? |
| 19:00.42 | paulswm | Dabian: yes |
| 19:00.45 | PeTeRB | Dabian: Depends on your device.map |
| 19:00.48 | Spec | actually: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#grub |
| 19:01.13 | PeTeRB | I remember I installed grub by issuing a single command and then editing the config :/ |
| 19:01.19 | greycat | Spec: seems overblown for Debian though. |
| 19:01.28 | Dabian | $ cat /home/boot/grub/device.map |
| 19:01.28 | Dabian | (fd0) /dev/fd0 |
| 19:01.28 | Dabian | (hd0) /dev/hde |
| 19:01.30 | Spec | yeah, but it does give a good understanding |
| 19:01.40 | greycat | Debian's grub package already ships a menu.lst file. All he needs is the simple one-line command to install the fucker in the MBR. Why isn't that in the man pages? |
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| 19:01.52 | Spec | grub-install |
| 19:01.55 | si|vercat | I just got this old laptop, and I'm wondering if I can use it as thin-client terminal and connect to my own computer, sorta like windows terminal? |
| 19:01.56 | Spec | puts it into the mbr |
| 19:02.13 | Dabian | /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst |
| 19:02.14 | greycat | Spec: the man page says it wants a mandatory argument. It DOES NOT say what that argument should be. |
| 19:02.18 | Dabian | That one? |
| 19:02.19 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.21 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.23 | Solitarius | abrotman: I did reconfigure debconf for the 'low' priority, purged postgresql, removing /etc/postgres and /var/lib/postgres, then apt-get install postgresql. Still no question about interger timestamps. |
| 19:02.24 | jethro | greycat: because all you need is in /usr/share/doc/grub/ |
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| 19:02.32 | emacsen | what happens after /dev/sdz? |
| 19:02.36 | Spec | greycat: that's classic |
| 19:02.45 | abrotman | Solitarius: i'd email the maintainer .. and/or check teh BTS |
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| 19:02.54 | emacsen | jethro: all you need is grub |
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| 19:02.58 | greycat | WHAT? It allows you to use /dev/hda? |
| 19:03.00 | Spec | my program -will- not work with this mandatory argument foo -- i'm not telling you what it does, or what is expected as the argument though. |
| 19:03.02 | Dabian | jethro: Oh .. so the info and man pages are actually worthless? Its a README.Debian thing? |
| 19:03.09 | ghatak | Hi, do i need to download all 12 cd's before install.? |
| 19:03.18 | jethro | Dabian: yes |
| 19:03.21 | greycat | ghatak: hell no. |
| 19:03.27 | emacsen | ghatak: no. just download them as you need them and start with an installer CD |
| 19:03.31 | Spec | ghatak: you can download a 50mb iso and that would be enough |
| 19:03.31 | paulswm | !tell ghatak about d-i |
| 19:03.34 | jethro | Dabian: take it as a fact. GNU man pages suck most of the time |
| 19:03.35 | greycat | !d-i ghatak |
| 19:03.36 | dpkg | ghatak, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:03.56 | jethro | emacsen: sounds like a old song :) |
| 19:04.01 | paulswm | Nyah nyah beat greycat |
| 19:04.10 | abrotman | ghatak: i told you where to go before :) |
| 19:04.15 | Dabian | Worthless is /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/ I need to look in /usr/share/doc/grub .. |
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| 19:04.21 | greycat | dpkg, no, install grub is <reply> apt-get install grub; zless /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz; IGNORE everything in the man pages and the info pages for now. |
| 19:04.22 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
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| 19:04.31 | jethro | hah |
| 19:04.33 | greycat | dpkg, forget grub install |
| 19:04.33 | dpkg | i forgot grub install, greycat |
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| 19:04.40 | ghatak | Spec: that is for business card. isnt it ? |
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| 19:05.03 | jethro | greycat: is it worth filing a bug report or would the maintainer say /usr/share/doc/grub is enough? |
| 19:05.03 | greycat | dpkg, no, grub-install is <reply> See all that crap in grub-install(8)? Ignore it. zless /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz instead. |
| 19:05.03 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 19:05.11 | PeTeRB | What kernel does the current d-i install? |
| 19:05.13 | greycat | jethro: you can try if you wish. |
| 19:05.28 | greycat | PeTeRB: 2.4.27 or 2.6.8 (both of them patched) |
| 19:05.34 | paulswm | ghatak: Three of us have now told you where to go, all the informaation you need is on that page, let us know if it doesn't make sense to you. |
| 19:05.45 | abrotman | ghatak: get the net install version |
| 19:05.46 | PeTeRB | greycat: I'm just wondering which one of them Azar used :/ |
| 19:05.51 | greycat | PeTeRB: ask him. |
| 19:05.55 | ghatak | ok. i am getting netinstall |
| 19:05.59 | abrotman | yay |
| 19:06.01 | Dabian | $ sudo grub-install /dev/hde |
| 19:06.01 | Dabian | The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. |
| 19:06.02 | paulswm | !win ghatak |
| 19:06.03 | dpkg | Congratulations, ghatak! You have won the US presidency! |
| 19:06.04 | jethro | greycat: I m sure he knows how good the manpage is actually |
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| 19:06.44 | greycat | /boot/grub/stage1: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x48 |
| 19:06.45 | toonX | how can i install some TrueType fonts (ttf) ? |
| 19:07.00 | abrotman | !tell toonx about ttf |
| 19:07.27 | asg | Dabian: does /boot exist on a separate partition? |
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| 19:07.27 | Dabian | asg: Apparently not .. |
| 19:07.27 | paulswm | Dabian: look at /boot/grub/device.map and tell us what /dev/hde maps to |
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| 19:07.27 | Dabian | paulswm: hd0 |
| 19:07.28 | asg | toonX: install msttcorefonts |
| 19:07.33 | Dabian | paulswm: No wait |
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| 19:07.39 | Dabian | paulswm: I don't think I have that file. |
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| 19:07.40 | abrotman | hd0 ? |
| 19:07.47 | abrotman | hda0 ? |
| 19:07.49 | Solitarius | abrotman: #postgresql: <nome> Solitarius: that choice is made at compile time..... Uhoh, I'm screw. |
| 19:07.57 | toonX | asg ok thanks |
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| 19:08.10 | Dabian | paulswm: Yes, I have it .. (hd0) /dev/hde |
| 19:08.17 | abrotman | Solitarius: hrm .. i guess you'd need the source package .. and change the options .. |
| 19:08.26 | paulswm | Dabian: How did you get grub in the first place? did you 'apt-get install grub'? |
| 19:08.37 | abrotman | grub grub grub |
| 19:08.38 | asg | toonX: if you happen to have a windows box and don't mind having a non-free system and breaking your windows EULA, just grab them and stuff 'em in /usr/share/fonts/truetype |
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| 19:08.40 | abrotman | !moo |
| 19:08.41 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939 |
| 19:08.47 | Dabian | paulswm: I assume so .. I'm going to try and purge / reinstall it. |
| 19:08.47 | si|vercat | I just got this old laptop, and I'm wondering how I can use it as a thin-client terminal and connect to my own computer, sorta like windows terminal? I already have a working debian installation on both, so I don't need any fancy boot-stuff.. |
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| 19:09.10 | paulswm | Dabian: then try sudo grub-install '(hd0)' |
| 19:09.11 | Solitarius | abrotman: Hmm.. And I guess it's way to late to include the change in sarge with the freeze and all.. |
| 19:09.21 | paulswm | I think that's the syntax |
| 19:09.28 | fusQuanto | can somone tell me why i get these errors, my network seems to be fien: |
| 19:09.28 | fusQuanto | Jun 2 14:13:49 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received. |
| 19:09.28 | fusQuanto | Jun 2 14:13:49 localhost dhclient: No working leases in persistent database. |
| 19:09.28 | fusQuanto | Jun 2 14:13:49 localhost dhclient: Sleeping. |
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| 19:09.32 | abrotman | yay |
| 19:09.34 | toonX | asg dude this apt is a life saver ! installing non-packaged fonts its a bitch! |
| 19:09.41 | abrotman | fusQuanto: /msg dpkg flood |
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| 19:09.58 | paulswm | !singlishsmite fusQuanto |
| 19:09.59 | dpkg | fusQuanto: Still say some more! Whack you then you know! |
| 19:10.03 | Dabian | paulswm: Heh cool .. the manpages are useless, the infopages are too verbose and README.Debian.gz is slightly off. ;-) |
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| 19:10.13 | Solitarius | abrotman: None the less, I'll try to document to bug as best as I can. |
| 19:10.25 | abrotman | Solitarius: is it a bug .. or a preference? |
| 19:10.33 | paulswm | Dabian: Well there's free software for you, can't beat the price though :) |
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| 19:10.49 | paulswm | Dabian: Did that work? |
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| 19:10.57 | Dabian | paulswm: I *am* considering buying a mac, and actually dual boot ;-) |
| 19:11.11 | xtension | how do i enable php4 for apache2 ? |
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| 19:11.14 | asg | paulswm: if they spent as much time on documentation as openbsd does, things would be much easier. |
| 19:11.19 | Solitarius | abrotman: I would say a bug because there is a fews other that saw it in #postgresql, I'm guessing that everyone that use SET TIME ZONE will catch it. |
| 19:11.25 | asg | xtension: instal libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 19:11.29 | Dabian | Package grubconf is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source |
| 19:11.29 | Dabian | E: Package grubconf has no installation candidate |
| 19:11.44 | abrotman | Solitarius: well .. file a bug .. but check BTS first to see if it exists already |
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| 19:11.54 | danb | Would anyone know how I get my flash to drive to default mount as rw instead of ro? |
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| 19:11.54 | paulswm | asg: Programmers' syndrome: "If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand." :) |
| 19:11.59 | dondelelcaro | asg: eh? you must have missed the vast quantity of documentation that has been prepared |
| 19:12.10 | Solitarius | abrotman: They also asked me to fill a bugs with postgresql directly. Should I do it or only in the debian BTS? |
| 19:12.10 | abrotman | !tell danb about vfatrw |
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| 19:12.23 | dondelelcaro | anyway, if anyone has a problem with the documentation, FILE BUGS AND PROVIDE PATCHES. That is all. |
| 19:12.29 | greycat | !gnu man pages |
| 19:12.29 | dpkg | gnu man pages are utterly shit, and you can't fix them even if you try. For example, see http://bugs.debian.org/111578 |
| 19:12.31 | abrotman | Solitarius: why with pgsql? .. i thought it was a debian issue ? |
| 19:12.35 | Dabian | $ sudo grub-install 'hd0' |
| 19:12.35 | asg | dondelelcaro: that was an overly broad statement but their documentation is top notch. |
| 19:12.35 | Dabian | The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. |
| 19:12.37 | greycat | dondelelcaro: file them UPSTREAM maybe. |
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| 19:12.43 | fusQuanto | http://channels.debian.net/paste/179 , can someone tell me why my dhclient is doing this? the network seems to be fine... |
| 19:12.59 | Solitarius | abrotman: Someone suggested that they should just remove the option |
| 19:13.00 | asg | dondelelcaro: I've provided 90k worth of patches to docs over the years; most just sat there. |
| 19:13.15 | abrotman | Solitarius: i'd possibly file both .. tell the debian guy you filed a bug upstream though |
| 19:13.27 | Dabian | !gnu man pages is also check the info system. pinfo has lynx keybindings, and the info pages are also readable from GNU Emacs. |
| 19:13.28 | dpkg | Dabian: okay |
| 19:13.31 | Solitarius | abrotman: Okies |
| 19:13.33 | danb | abrotman: sounds like that could be what i nneded to be told. i'll give it a go- thanks! |
| 19:13.45 | paulswm | I do hate info pages, though, thank God for info2html which makes them just bearable. |
| 19:13.48 | tarzeau | back from bubbling |
| 19:13.56 | tarzeau | ouf. paulswm still werkin'? |
| 19:13.56 | greycat | dpkg, gnu man pages =~ s/578,/578/ |
| 19:13.56 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 19:14.05 | dondelelcaro | asg: where? most active maintainers will apply useful patches to documentation |
| 19:14.15 | greycat | dpkg, gnu man pages is also Neither of which excuses shipping horribly broken documentation. |
| 19:14.15 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
| 19:14.29 | anymous | fusQuanto: looks like a problem with your network. |
| 19:14.31 | paulswm | tarzeau: Yes, on and off. I have four Oracle stored procedures to write :( |
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| 19:14.46 | greycat | dondelelcaro: except the ones that say "I won't apply this because the info page already has examples |
| 19:14.47 | asg | dondelelcaro: developer's reference mostly. I think they finally made it in but it took a year or more. |
| 19:14.49 | greycat | " |
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| 19:15.03 | Dabian | paulswm: Why in the name of Branden Robinson do you hate info pages? |
| 19:15.04 | tarzeau | paulswm: i think you don't like dragons |
| 19:15.11 | tarzeau | paulswm: and bubbles, neither |
| 19:15.16 | tarzeau | Dabian: i hate them too |
| 19:15.17 | dondelelcaro | greycat: gnu doesn't really ship man pages. They write info documentation... the debian package maintainers will usually apply patches to the manpages if they're sane though |
| 19:15.22 | Dabian | tarzeau: Why? |
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| 19:15.28 | tarzeau | Dabian: nightmare to view |
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| 19:15.32 | abrotman | stupid key combo |
| 19:15.36 | tarzeau | Dabian: like xml, gives me eye cancer |
| 19:15.52 | greycat | Dabian: because they serve NO purpose. They're not man pages, so you don't see them unless you specifically go out of your way to endure the horrors of info(1) or its replacements. They have no consistent structure or layout. You can't see it all on one page. |
| 19:15.53 | Dabian | tarzeau: Very easy, info. XML is not for humans though. |
| 19:15.57 | paulswm | I must say the the GNU C Library Reference Manual is an outstanding body of work. |
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| 19:16.16 | fusQuanto | anymous: ive tried 3 different routers... everythign is very very basic, simple dhcp from the router. all other computer are fine. hell even this computer which is giving these errors seems fine |
| 19:16.19 | greycat | Dabian: until recently you couldn't even *search* them. |
| 19:16.25 | Dabian | greycat: They can be converted to printable stuff. |
| 19:16.32 | si|vercat | how do I change between xdm/gdm? |
| 19:16.34 | Dabian | greycat: I've been searching them for years. |
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| 19:16.42 | Dabian | greycat: Many years. |
| 19:16.47 | greycat | Dabian: It says a lot about info pages that for me, the best and most reliable and most flexible info page reader was "cd /usr/share/info; zcat foobar* | less" |
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| 19:17.01 | paulswm | Dabian: maybe one day you'll find what you've been searching for, ha ha :) |
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| 19:17.07 | greycat | Dabian: printable? you mean, like on *paper*? people still use that stuff? |
| 19:17.09 | [bathat] | is there a way to disable warning messages in gnome-session-save? |
| 19:17.10 | tarzeau | paulswm: lol |
| 19:17.16 | tarzeau | paulswm: that's for a qotd? |
| 19:17.16 | Dabian | greycat: Indeed. |
| 19:17.33 | tarzeau | Guerin! |
| 19:17.41 | anymous | fusQuanto: cable? |
| 19:17.47 | Dabian | greycat: You must have a very high resolution if you can see whole man pages on screen. ;-) |
| 19:17.53 | paulswm | tarzeau: re. dragons, of course I like them, look at my national flag: http://www.thefullfonty.com/download/full/WalesFlag.gif |
| 19:18.03 | jethro | Dabian: he's just talking about real manpages |
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| 19:18.11 | Dabian | jethro: ? |
| 19:18.14 | tarzeau | paulswm: yuck, that's not a dragon! |
| 19:18.24 | jethro | Dabian: aka not the GNU man pages |
| 19:18.25 | tarzeau | paulswm: D <- THIS is a dragon |
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| 19:18.38 | Dabian | jethro: ? |
| 19:18.39 | asg | paulswm: didn't know you were Welsh |
| 19:18.39 | paulswm | tarzeau: It would be very arrogant for me to qotd my own stuff :) |
| 19:18.44 | greycat | Dabian: a man page has NAME, SYNOPSIS, DESCRIPTION, FILES, EXAMPLES and SEE ALSO. And possibly a few other sections. You know where they are. You know how to use them. You know what they contain. |
| 19:18.48 | drasko | i started some setup.py. It complains: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory). Is there some package tha i am missing? |
| 19:18.55 | Dabian | greycat: Right |
| 19:18.57 | tarzeau | greycat: BUGS! you forget the most important |
| 19:18.59 | paulswm | asg: Dew, yes mun |
| 19:19.02 | Dabian | tarzeau: :-D |
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| 19:19.05 | asg | drasko: python2.4 perhaps |
| 19:19.20 | PeTeRB | drasko: IIRC the -dev one |
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| 19:19.22 | greycat | Dabian: if you want to know what the related commands for, say, "vgcreate" are, you look in "man vgcreate", jump to the bottom, and see the SEE ALSOs. |
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| 19:19.38 | [bathat] | i'm curious because i want to make a script to save my gnome-session every x minutes and i don't want warnings to be popping up |
| 19:19.41 | tarzeau | paulswm: these are dragons too: http://bub-n-bros.sourceforge.net/images/extend.png |
| 19:19.53 | si|vercat | does gdm have a xdmcp-service? |
| 19:20.02 | Dabian | greycat: Yeah, I like that too. I don't dislike neither info-pages or man-pages. |
| 19:20.02 | tarzeau | [bathat]: you want to get rid of gnome |
| 19:20.03 | asg | paulswm: my favorite word was the one for owl, gwdyw or somesuch. |
| 19:20.03 | anymous | greycat: or hit "s" in emacs manpage-mode :-) |
| 19:20.07 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Is bub-n-bros popular in China and Japan? |
| 19:20.12 | Dabian | [bathat]: Try GNUStep. |
| 19:20.19 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: i have no idea, but from what country is Taito? |
| 19:20.21 | Dabian | PeTeRB: Why not? |
| 19:20.35 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: they made the original Bubble Bobble, first on C-64, later on Amiga and Atari |
| 19:20.43 | [bathat] | Dabian: what is gnustep? |
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| 19:20.51 | tarzeau | RichiH: did you see that? there's another gnustep pimp! |
| 19:20.53 | Dabian | !tell [bathat] about gnustep |
| 19:21.24 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: AFAIK China and Japan were all dragonish. Tales and architecture and stuff. |
| 19:21.24 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: i like fairys actually |
| 19:21.32 | paulswm | asg: gwdihw |
| 19:21.39 | xtension | apache keeps on skipping /var/www and loads /var/www/apache2-default/ ? |
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| 19:21.40 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: wha'ts the next big country from where you are, latvia? |
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| 19:21.51 | asg | paulswm: yeah, pronounced gewdywhoo iirc |
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| 19:22.19 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: btw i know another funny game ;) wana try? |
| 19:22.25 | Dabian | greycat: I guess the reason I also like infopages, is that I am using GNU/Emacs to read them. GNU Emacs makes inforeading real comfertable, esp. if the infopages contain what need you need. ;-) |
| 19:22.29 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: I wouldn't call Latvia big :/ |
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| 19:22.37 | greycat | Dabian: I'm a vi user. |
| 19:22.38 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: i mean the next big one around it ;) |
| 19:22.38 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Why not |
| 19:22.44 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: so i get an idea where you are ;) |
| 19:22.47 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Ah. Russia. |
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| 19:22.54 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Baltic Sea |
| 19:23.08 | JasonBoxatWork2 | I give up, my entry 'logcheck-local' is not being used in /etc/logcheck/violations.ignore.d/ ; What gives? |
| 19:23.10 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: it's to play against time, not really multiplayer: http://gnu.ethz.ch/debian/supertransball2/ it just got into the new queue today |
| 19:23.11 | shingouz | tarzeau: estonia, lithuania.. |
| 19:23.14 | [bathat] | Dabian: gnustep is a gnome replacement... what i want to do is disable warnings in gnome-session-save |
| 19:23.20 | tarzeau | shingouz: yeah thought so, i know estonia |
| 19:23.26 | [bathat] | gnome-session-save, in case you don't know, saves the gnome session |
| 19:23.35 | lewis | is there a date for sarge? |
| 19:23.36 | PeTeRB | Latvia is on BBC News today :P |
| 19:23.36 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: i liked the lithuania song of the european song contest (last year) |
| 19:23.40 | tarzeau | lewis: yes |
| 19:23.41 | asg | lewis: /topic |
| 19:23.44 | [bathat] | but when there are unsupported windows that will have to be relaunched later it pops up a warning |
| 19:23.47 | tarzeau | !topicbadger lewis |
| 19:23.48 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that lewis didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 19:23.49 | [bathat] | i want to disable these warnings |
| 19:23.50 | Dabian | [bathat]: If you get rid of GNOME, you also get rid of the warnings - trust me on this one. If I am wrong, come back later. :-) |
| 19:24.07 | [bathat] | there doesn't seem to be a flag to do it |
| 19:24.24 | [bathat] | but i really don't want to get rid of gnome |
| 19:24.26 | [bathat] | i like gnome |
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| 19:24.36 | lewis | sorry - couldn't see the entire topic. |
| 19:24.39 | tarzeau | [bathat]: at least try something else? |
| 19:24.49 | [bathat] | ? |
| 19:24.50 | JasonBoxatWork2 | Does anyone use logcheck with their own, personal entries in /etc/logcheck/violations.ignore.d ? |
| 19:24.52 | tarzeau | lewis: type /topic then |
| 19:24.55 | Dabian | [bathat]: What makes you think that GNUStep excludes GNOME? |
| 19:24.56 | jethro | lewis: you can use /topic anytime to re read it |
| 19:25.10 | tarzeau | Dabian: they think it's a window manager |
| 19:25.24 | [bathat] | Dabian: i don't know what gnustep is but when glancing at the site, it looked like a gnome replacement |
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| 19:25.32 | [bathat] | i don't want to add anything onto gnome either |
| 19:25.39 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: you know i've had other fun, while not doing my homewerks |
| 19:25.48 | jasoncohen | anyone have a phillips quickcam? |
| 19:25.53 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: yes, with one l |
| 19:25.55 | [bathat] | Dabian: i'm not trying to be a contrarion |
| 19:25.55 | jasoncohen | i installed the 10.0.7 drivers but it's not working with gnomemeeting. it kills it every time. |
| 19:25.55 | fusQuanto | anymous: yes cablemodem, to router (linksys wrt54g with sveasoft firmware, same problem with netgear 614 router) |
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| 19:26.10 | Dabian | tarzeau: Well, you can run gnome-panel and nautilus along with GNUStep applications, if you want. ;-) |
| 19:26.17 | tarzeau | Dabian: YUCK, i don't |
| 19:26.19 | jasoncohen | tarzeau, what do you use it with? can yourecommend a decent video conferencing app? |
| 19:26.31 | anymous | fusQuanto: no, i mean, problem with cable? |
| 19:26.32 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: no i can't. i've just tried it, it worked. done |
| 19:26.36 | [bathat] | there a number of different flags but none of them seem to be what i want |
| 19:26.42 | [bathat] | maybe there's just no easy way to do it |
| 19:26.44 | jasoncohen | tarzeau, what did you try it with? |
| 19:26.48 | Dabian | tarzeau: Neither do I .. most of the time, but its nice, because you can "hide" nautilus desktop. :-) |
| 19:26.51 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: look at myself, it's not mine |
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| 19:27.11 | Dabian | [bathat]: I guses most of us have no clue why you get these warnings. |
| 19:27.24 | ralf | when it will be the next bug squash party? |
| 19:27.37 | tarzeau | ralf: it's now |
| 19:27.39 | Dabian | [bathat]: I'll give you a pointer though, since you're so insistive. |
| 19:27.40 | tarzeau | ralf: #debian-bugs |
| 19:28.10 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Hah. I found some funky tunes in / of that ethz site |
| 19:28.10 | ralf | tnx |
| 19:28.11 | [bathat] | well, the reason i get these warnings is because applications like emacs are not supported by gnome-session-save |
| 19:28.14 | paulswm | asg yes, that's about right! |
| 19:28.17 | [bathat] | they have to be restarted later on |
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| 19:28.20 | paulswm | !prize asg |
| 19:28.24 | [bathat] | it's default behavior i think |
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| 19:28.27 | Dabian | [bathat]: Try "/server irc.gnome.org" then "/join #GNOME" then ask your question there. They're real cool with gnome questions, but you got to be patient like a snail. |
| 19:28.32 | asg | paulswm: :) |
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| 19:28.53 | [bathat] | Dabian: thanks a lot |
| 19:29.10 | fusQuanto | anymous: witht he cat5 cable? or with my cablemodem? negative on both |
| 19:29.12 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: adlib or modules? |
| 19:29.27 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: look also at mog (Maze of Galious), fantastic stuff |
| 19:29.42 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: m6i-sumo.it and auricom-sweetbead.xm |
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| 19:29.59 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: yeah, also try floppy-dadam6.xm and floppy-valon_lapsi.xm |
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| 19:30.56 | jerome | good evening all |
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| 19:31.36 | tarzeau | jerome: what's the meaning of your hostname? |
| 19:31.37 | jerome | I happen to remember of some debian util to generate an init script skeleton, but I can't get the name back, any guess ? |
| 19:31.48 | tarzeau | jerome: dh_make |
| 19:32.01 | tarzeau | catta: from which kanton in .ch? |
| 19:32.13 | sparr_ | I have encountered a bug with the menus generated by the debian menu system. I am not sure if this bug is inherent in the menu system, or in the menu-methods provided by my window managers, or something else. How might I narrow it down? I have encountered it in two different WMs now, but that may be because they share code in their menu-method |
| 19:32.15 | jerome | tarzeau: my machines are all named for a comics, which takes place on "terra amata" |
| 19:32.27 | jerome | tarzeau: thanks for dh_make :) |
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| 19:32.38 | jerome | from* |
| 19:32.48 | tarzeau | sparr_: try to explain |
| 19:32.56 | tarzeau | sparr_: the maintainer/inventor of it is in #debian-devel usually |
| 19:33.07 | tarzeau | sparr_: which wms are these? |
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| 19:33.44 | antipope | How do I exclude directories when I create a tar? I've tried --exclude /dev /proc in the command but it spits back an error at me. |
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| 19:33.51 | sparr_ | tarzeau: well, i just duplicated it in another WM, with known-from-scratch menu-methods, so i think its a bug in the menu system |
| 19:33.55 | tarzeau | antipope: it wants a file |
| 19:34.09 | tarzeau | antipope: i've got an exmaple in /usr/bin/ibackup (see the package or homepage of it) |
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| 19:34.21 | Dabian | So .. no advise left on how to install grub? |
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| 19:34.26 | tarzeau | sparr_: can you show a screenshot or tell what it is? |
| 19:34.26 | antipope | tarzeau: thx. Will check. |
| 19:34.34 | tarzeau | Dabian: grub-install ? |
| 19:34.37 | sparr_ | tarzeau: the bug is that if a 'hints'-inspired submenu shares a name with a menu item, the submenu is discarded |
| 19:34.55 | tarzeau | sparr_: makes sense, no? |
| 19:35.13 | sparr_ | tarzeau: uhm, no? i have no way to start gimp now! |
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| 19:35.22 | dimitri | is there a way to control the amount of bandwidth going in and out ? |
| 19:35.23 | Dabian | tarzeau: I tried "grub-install", "grub-install /dev/hde", "grub-install hd0" and "grub-install 'hd0'" |
| 19:35.27 | tarzeau | sparr_: maybe i'd understand a screenshot, try scrot peng.png |
| 19:35.31 | Dabian | tarzeau: All give me errors. |
| 19:35.33 | tarzeau | sparr_: or xwd > the.xwd |
| 19:35.36 | tarzeau | -root |
| 19:35.42 | sparr_ | tarzeau: a screenshot wont help... its whats NOT there that matters |
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| 19:35.47 | greycat | Dabian: you didn't try the one you were told to try? grub-install '(hd0)' |
| 19:35.48 | sparr_ | tarzeau: i can explain with a simple example, the one annoying me |
| 19:35.53 | tarzeau | Dabian: yeah somethings broken, try ask braindmg in #gnu-kbsd |
| 19:35.56 | dimitri | my box is only alowed 100Gb/month, I would like to be able to be warned by email when it reaches 80% of this content |
| 19:36.03 | tarzeau | sparr_: sure |
| 19:36.04 | sparr_ | tarzeau: there is an item called Apps/Graphics/Bitmap (it launches x-bitmap) |
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| 19:36.23 | sparr_ | tarzeau: but if you use the hint system then gimp gets put in Apps/Graphics/Bitmap/The Gimp |
| 19:36.28 | dimitri | of this amount sorry |
| 19:36.31 | Dabian | !flame bimmerd00d |
| 19:36.31 | dpkg | bimmerd00d: YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 19:36.45 | sparr_ | tarzeau: the bug is that because there is an item named Bitmap, the Bitmap submenu is gone, along with all its entries |
| 19:36.47 | dimitri | anyone ? |
| 19:36.50 | tarzeau | !anyone |
| 19:36.50 | dpkg | hmm... anyone is ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 19:36.52 | antipope | !accost me |
| 19:36.56 | antipope | :p |
| 19:37.12 | dimitri | tarzeau: maybe you have an idea ? |
| 19:37.12 | EdibleText | !cyber me |
| 19:37.13 | tarzeau | dimitri: look at ifconfig output |
| 19:37.18 | asg | dimitri: there are a few ways of tracking bandwidth. lartc.org has some good info. |
| 19:37.22 | sparr_ | tarzeau: to use a filesystem analogy, menus being directories, it wont let me have a 'directory' with the same name as a 'file'. now, that makes a lot of sense for a filesystem, but not for a menu! |
| 19:37.23 | tarzeau | !breastfeed EdibleText |
| 19:37.34 | dimitri | asg: thanks |
| 19:37.38 | drasko | I have problem... ImportError: No module named ogl |
| 19:37.58 | EdibleText | !botsnack |
| 19:37.58 | dpkg | EdibleText: aw, gee |
| 19:38.01 | tarzeau | sparr_: can you ask in #debian-devel ? |
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| 19:38.26 | yarddog | i just installed 'harden' and 'bastille' and now my samba network wont work, did i fux0r it? |
| 19:38.34 | tarzeau | yarddog: yes |
| 19:38.48 | yarddog | dammit :( |
| 19:38.55 | tarzeau | !harden-doc |
| 19:38.55 | dpkg | from memory, harden-doc is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html#contents |
| 19:38.55 | asg | drasko: apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file search ogl.py |
| 19:39.03 | tarzeau | yarddog: read that. and remove the other two |
| 19:39.09 | yarddog | ok |
| 19:39.30 | jasoncohen | i'm getting a permission denied error on /dev/video0 even as root? how do i change the permissions for a device? |
| 19:39.32 | yarddog | removing will remove the settings? |
| 19:39.40 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: with chmod |
| 19:39.55 | jasoncohen | i did chmod 777 /dev/video0 - same problem |
| 19:40.26 | PeTeRB | jasoncohen: ls -l /dev/video0 |
| 19:40.27 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: let me check mine for ya |
| 19:40.39 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: 0 crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 Aug 11 2004 /dev/video0 |
| 19:40.51 | jasoncohen | crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2005-06-02 15:40 /dev/video0 |
| 19:41.09 | tarzeau | and what app are you trying to use? |
| 19:41.12 | drasko | asg, no results, nothing is found |
| 19:41.14 | jasoncohen | gnomemeeting |
| 19:41.25 | jasoncohen | it's trying to use /dev/.static/dev/video0 ... |
| 19:41.31 | tarzeau | oh, haha |
| 19:41.43 | tarzeau | looks wrong to me |
| 19:41.44 | PeTeRB | jasoncohen: You didn't chmod it I believe. |
| 19:41.44 | asg | drasko: sorry, apt-file update ; apt-file search ogl.py |
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| 19:41.50 | dimitri | asg: this site is full of info, can I direct me a bit toward what I want ? |
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| 19:41.56 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: but then, it's gnome stuff, doesn't surprise me at all |
| 19:42.10 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: who has /dev/.static/ ? |
| 19:42.16 | asg | dimitri: search for bandwidth monitoring |
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| 19:42.38 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: I don't :/ |
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| 19:42.54 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: checked BTS yet? |
| 19:43.34 | xtension | where are my panels ? |
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| 19:43.48 | tarzeau | i hide them in my drawer |
| 19:44.00 | xtension | how do i start the panels again ? |
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| 19:44.15 | dimitri | asg: I must be blind, but on that very site I can't find aything |
| 19:44.33 | asg | asg@rob:~$ apt-file search ogl.py |
| 19:44.34 | asg | libwxgtk2.4-python: usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/wx/ogl.py |
| 19:44.40 | asg | dimitri: ^^ |
| 19:44.48 | gilead | hello. One of my machines has broken kernel and standard debian install CD don't seem to be able to boot system from hard disk -- where can I find debian-compatible rescue CD so I can boot kernel from CD with system from hard disk? |
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| 19:45.01 | paulswm | tarzeau: I gave in and made qotd112, it did seem worth it |
| 19:45.01 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: ah you're back. have you tried floppy-*.xm and the package: schism? |
| 19:45.04 | jasoncohen | tarzeau, now i'm getting seg faults |
| 19:45.07 | tarzeau | !qotd112 |
| 19:45.07 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, qotd112 is <Dabian> paulswm: Why in the name of Branden Robinson do you hate info pages? <greycat> Dabian: because they serve NO purpose. ... They have no consistent structure or layout. You can't see it all on one page. <Dabian> greycat: I've been searching them for years. <Dabian> greycat: Many years. <paulswm> Dabian: maybe one day you'll find what you've been searching for, ha ha :) |
| 19:45.13 | EdibleText | jasoncohen, udev shenanigans perhaps |
| 19:45.25 | tarzeau | paulswm: yeah it's really good ;) |
| 19:45.27 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: floppy-*.xm where? |
| 19:45.38 | jasoncohen | is there a video conferencing program besides gnomemeeting? |
| 19:45.46 | Dabian | tarzeau: Somethings missing. |
| 19:45.51 | yarddog | tarzeau: i removed 'harden' 'harden-servers' and 'bastille', it removed the network, now i cannot see the share with samba :( |
| 19:45.51 | dimitri | asg: what I am supposed to do ? |
| 19:45.52 | paulswm | tarzeau: :D |
| 19:45.56 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: www.linuks.mine.nu/kickass/ actually floppi |
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| 19:46.14 | jasoncohen | now i can't get it to do anything. it immediately seg faults |
| 19:46.16 | asg | dimitri: I would imaging installing libwxgtk2.4-python would provide the module missing in your import error. |
| 19:46.19 | skel | anyone know any type of gui rsync interface? |
| 19:46.23 | tarzeau | yarddog: you want to share files? why not use NFS? |
| 19:46.26 | asg | s/imaging/imagine/ |
| 19:46.40 | Dabian | paulswm: Thats a fake qoute.. you're removing stuff. |
| 19:46.40 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: 404 |
| 19:46.42 | tarzeau | !for x |
| 19:46.42 | dpkg | All real programs run in a tty. If you want a program "for X", then put "xterm -e" in front of it. E.g., mail reader for x = "xterm -e mutt". |
| 19:46.43 | yarddog | tarzeau: differnet box, samba for networking |
| 19:46.50 | dimitri | asg: ok so that package is supposed to help me monitor my bandwidth is that what you are saying ? |
| 19:46.52 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: sorry, www.linuks.mine.nu/people/kickass/ |
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| 19:47.03 | skel | tarzeau: you're a cute one |
| 19:47.12 | asg | dimitri: oh, sorry, wrong person. |
| 19:47.21 | tarzeau | skel: wtf? |
| 19:47.25 | Dabian | paulswm: And its not even funny, unless you find dissing infopages funny in itself. |
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| 19:47.27 | dimitri | asg: ah |
| 19:47.38 | paulswm | Dabian: There is a limit to the length of a qotd, so I had to edit it. |
| 19:48.02 | EdibleText | gui rsync? (my head asplode!) |
| 19:48.08 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Those tunes remind me of DOS games :| |
| 19:48.16 | paulswm | Dabian: No, I don't find anything funny about info pages, the whole info system in unfunny. |
| 19:48.25 | paulswm | s/in/is/ |
| 19:48.26 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: dos games were horrible. so was pc speaker from IBM |
| 19:48.35 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: but Amiga, maybe |
| 19:49.05 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: I mean the bit more modern ones. That used my SB16 |
| 19:49.14 | tarzeau | EdibleText: they make gui nethack too.... |
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| 19:49.35 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: please tell me you don't use mikmod to play them |
| 19:49.37 | Dabian | paulswm: I consider editing out the part where someone claims you couldn't search infopages very manipulative, maybe even forgery. |
| 19:49.48 | gilead | where can I find debian rescue CDs? Or info about how to use installer CD for rescuing? |
| 19:49.51 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: The .xm and .it files? |
| 19:49.57 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: yeah |
| 19:50.05 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: alsaplayer |
| 19:50.11 | skel | EdibleText: I broke my right hand and can't type for shit w/ cazst. |
| 19:50.15 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: tried http://gnu.ethz.ch/debian/ocp/ ? open cubic player. or xmms-modplug (modplugplay) or schism |
| 19:50.27 | skel | EdibleText: hence the req for gui rsync |
| 19:50.27 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: how does alsaplayer mix modules? wrong? |
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| 19:50.45 | tarzeau | skel: cheapest excuse i ever heard |
| 19:51.06 | tarzeau | gilead: what do you want to rescue? |
| 19:51.09 | PeTeRB | skel: Type with your left hand. |
| 19:51.11 | takatumi | tarzeau: is that a new version of ocp? |
| 19:51.19 | tarzeau | gilead: i always use the livecd.gnustep.org for such stuff |
| 19:51.27 | tarzeau | takatumi: 1.7 (i'll do 1.8 later) |
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| 19:51.48 | EdibleText | tarzeau, one of the signs of the apocalypse surly |
| 19:51.48 | gilead | tarzeau: I have system with broken kernel, I need to boot kernel from CD with system from hard disk,,, |
| 19:51.58 | paulswm | Dabian: see below... |
| 19:52.01 | paulswm | !qotd112 |
| 19:52.01 | dpkg | from memory, qotd112 is <removed because Dabian didn't like it> |
| 19:52.02 | EdibleText | skel, unfortunatly I dont know... |
| 19:52.12 | paulswm | !singlishsmite Dabian |
| 19:52.13 | dpkg | Dabian: Still say some more! Whack you then you know! |
| 19:52.20 | tarzeau | paulswm: hehe |
| 19:52.28 | paulswm | tarzeau: :D |
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| 19:52.38 | PeTeRB | paulswm: Could you lastlog for 'strange errors' and add that one instead? |
| 19:52.39 | takatumi | tarzeau: 0.1.4-1 here |
| 19:52.43 | paulswm | tarzeau: But I have kept it, it will end up on my web site |
| 19:52.47 | cynWrk | I've got a problem with module loading on a 2.6 kernel on woody - `uname -r` returns correctly and the modules are all there, but I get "FATAL: Module foo not found." whenever I try to modprobe |
| 19:52.48 | tarzeau | takatumi: yeah you want to upgrade ;) |
| 19:52.50 | takatumi | so it *is* new |
| 19:52.52 | paulswm | PeTeRB: sure |
| 19:52.54 | skel | EdibleText: ok, thx anyway |
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| 19:53.06 | PeTeRB | paulswm: Especially the 2nd part of it, about windows :P |
| 19:53.20 | cynWrk | what's strange is the modules in /etc/modules load properly at boot, and the boot script seems to execute the same command |
| 19:53.41 | FlimFlamMan | wtf is singlish? |
| 19:53.48 | PeTeRB | !dict singlish |
| 19:53.50 | dpkg | could not find definition for singlish |
| 19:53.50 | cynWrk | anyone have any vast knowledge of module problems and have any idea(s)? |
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| 19:53.54 | K_Dallas | English spoken in Singapore ;) |
| 19:53.55 | EdibleText | singopourian engrish? |
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| 19:54.13 | paulswm | FlimFlamMan: SIngapore eNGLISH |
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| 19:54.17 | FlimFlamMan | ah ok |
| 19:54.20 | K_Dallas | !dict penglish |
| 19:54.21 | dpkg | could not find definition for penglish |
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| 19:54.36 | PeTeRB | paulswm: Is that better or worse than Engrish? |
| 19:54.43 | paulswm | EdibleText: Very good! |
| 19:54.51 | tarzeau | teh. bestest. |
| 19:55.02 | EdibleText | !win EdibleText |
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| 19:55.04 | dpkg | Congratulations, EdibleText! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 19:55.13 | EdibleText | I already have that |
| 19:55.51 | nello | the mainchat language is eng or ita? |
| 19:56.09 | shingouz | english here |
| 19:56.12 | nello | ok |
| 19:56.15 | shingouz | !it |
| 19:56.15 | dpkg | it has been said that italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it, (anche /j #linux-it). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 19:56.16 | paulswm | PeTeRB: Its a local mixture of English, Hokkien, Cantonese Malay and Chinese, it's really a colloquial language, rather than bad Englis. It's generally frowned upon as not "proper", but it has it's own kinf of charm. |
| 19:56.34 | paulswm | s/Englis/English/ |
| 19:56.54 | PeTeRB | s/kinf/kind/ ;) |
| 19:57.02 | EdibleText | a trade language perhaps |
| 19:57.07 | paulswm | !singlishsmite PeTeRB |
| 19:57.08 | dpkg | PeTeRB: Ah, shaddup lah. You all fart and no shit only. |
| 19:57.12 | paulswm | :D |
| 19:57.13 | paulswm | See? |
| 19:57.47 | paulswm | EdibleText: There are similar dialects all over the former British Empire :) |
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| 19:59.14 | EdibleText | paulswm, cool I hope to travel and experiance them. dialects are SOOO colloquial |
| 19:59.23 | takatumi | !factinfo singlishsmite |
| 19:59.23 | dpkg | takatumi: there's no such factoid as singlishsmite |
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| 19:59.42 | paulswm | takatumi: I wrote it a few days ago, it's a cmd |
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| 19:59.55 | PeTeRB | !factinfo CMD: singlishsmite (.*?) |
| 19:59.55 | dpkg | CMD: singlishsmite (.*?) -- created by paulswm <unknown@103.99.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com> 2d 20h 57m 24s ago. |
| 20:00.06 | takatumi | paulswm: ah, creative. :) |
| 20:00.09 | PeTeRB | !literal CMD: singlishsmite (.*?) |
| 20:00.09 | dpkg | CMD: singlishsmite (.*?) is ($1): <reply> $1: (Still say some more! Whack you then you know!|Say some more, lah! Like I care!|Ah, shaddup lah. You all fart and no shit only.) |
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| 20:00.30 | EdibleText | lah ~= lad? |
| 20:00.33 | PeTeRB | paulswm: You need to make more responses. |
| 20:00.41 | paulswm | EdibleText: Emphasis |
| 20:00.41 | takatumi | EdibleText: no. |
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| 20:01.19 | takatumi | EdibleText: lah is used often in singapore, maybe even in malaysia |
| 20:01.30 | paulswm | PeTeRB: Yes, but the problem is creating responses which are funny without having to know singlish, but I do have two experts to help me, one being the famous Phated |
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| 20:01.52 | paulswm | takatumi: Yes, it's used in Malaya a lot, I was brought up there :) |
| 20:02.04 | takatumi | paulswm: oh, cool. |
| 20:02.10 | Phated | :) |
| 20:02.14 | Phated | paulswm: Phamous. |
| 20:02.15 | Dabian | paulswm: Thanks, if you really took it back. |
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| 20:02.19 | EdibleText | takatumi, analogous to the American 'yo' |
| 20:02.19 | zefred | hello |
| 20:02.33 | zefred | is it possible to install debian (netinstall) with a wifi card? |
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| 20:02.35 | takatumi | EdibleText: or the hindi yaar. |
| 20:02.39 | tuxx | Hello and good evening |
| 20:03.09 | EdibleText | takatumi, Im pickin up what yer layin down, lah! |
| 20:03.18 | tuxx | I've just installed a DVD burner on my running Debian Sarge k2.4, however I can't run cdrecord -scanbus without getting: |
| 20:03.19 | paulswm | Dabian: Yes, I removed it, it's not my intention to make someone feel uncomfortable or misrepresented... see below... |
| 20:03.22 | paulswm | !qotd112 |
| 20:03.22 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd112 is <removed> |
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| 20:03.31 | tuxx | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 20:03.36 | takatumi | !qotd113 |
| 20:03.36 | dpkg | somebody said qotd113 was greycat|home | TummyAcid: TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB!!! Tab is your friend! Use the tab key! |
| 20:03.49 | Phated | Oooh, a classic greycat moment. |
| 20:03.56 | Dabian | paulswm: Thanks. |
| 20:04.02 | takatumi | that's the only qotd I added iirc. |
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| 20:04.29 | paulswm | Dabian: yw |
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| 20:04.37 | paulswm | !qotd9 |
| 20:04.37 | dpkg | <caphuso> linagee: so, now would be a good time to start reading the fucking manual before i start fucking you |
| 20:04.39 | Dabian | paulswm: Maybe its me that is without humor - but thanks. :-) |
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| 20:05.03 | takatumi | !joint me |
| 20:05.17 | jethro | !ganjasmite takatumi |
| 20:05.23 | takatumi | !marijuana |
| 20:05.24 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marijuana is a green leaved plant that is often smoked to get high. Try dict marijunana |
| 20:05.29 | Jacobo221 | for some reason udev is not creating a /dev/input/js0 device here. even having the "gameport" "joydev" and "siderwinder" modules loaded. any guess? |
| 20:05.39 | tuxx | Does anyone know how to configure such drive under 2.4 ? |
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| 20:05.58 | paulswm | Dabian: never mind. It was funny I thought and it was obvious that you weren't *really* searching for something for years, but I understand if you didn't like my editing. |
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| 20:06.27 | Dabian | !marijuana is also note however that it may be outlawed where you live, so check with the authorities where you live! |
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| 20:06.29 | dpkg | okay, Dabian |
| 20:06.30 | PeTeRB | paulswm: *Please* qotd-ise the nice statement found in /lastlog strange error :) I would do it myself if I wouldn't have closed irssi :/ |
| 20:06.33 | Dabian | paulswm: :-) |
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| 20:06.49 | paulswm | PeTeRB: Was distracted, OK |
| 20:06.56 | PeTeRB | s/wouldn't have/hadn't/ actually |
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| 20:07.06 | blackout | how can i preserve gnome volume settings across logins? Apparently, it's distro-specific...? |
| 20:07.44 | takatumi | blackout: are you running debian? |
| 20:07.47 | tarzeau | reto_: reto__ wozu bist du doppelt drin? und warum hast du _? |
| 20:07.51 | blackout | takatumi: yes. |
| 20:07.54 | Dabian | blackout: You mean across reboots? |
| 20:07.55 | Franz | how to setup XFree86config for a 16:9 tft (laptop)-monitor with 1280x800 resulution? |
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| 20:08.03 | blackout | Dabian: yes, actually - that's right. |
| 20:08.08 | takatumi | blackout: cat /etc/issue |
| 20:08.12 | blackout | Dabian: thanks for pointing out that ambiguity. |
| 20:08.17 | Dabian | blackout: Thats not related to GNOME .. :) |
| 20:08.33 | jethro | !marijuana is also don't do drugs mkaaaaaaaaaaay? drugs are mbaaad y'know |
| 20:08.34 | dpkg | jethro: okay |
| 20:08.36 | blackout | takatumi: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 \n \l |
| 20:08.50 | Dabian | blackout: If you find out, please tell me .. but I'm using the live soundblaster! |
| 20:08.58 | blackout | Dabian: yearg. |
| 20:09.01 | takatumi | blackout: ALSA? |
| 20:09.13 | paulswm | PeTeRB: you mean "also windows is unreliable and comes up with strange errors on an almost daily basis, not to mention the squillions of dollars thats wasted in licensing"? |
| 20:09.20 | PeTeRB | paulswm: Yes |
| 20:09.30 | Dabian | blackout: Are you using ALSA? |
| 20:09.44 | blackout | Dabian: yes - wow, i was really short on details. |
| 20:09.46 | paulswm | PeTeRB: I must be missing something, I don't see the humor |
| 20:09.48 | blackout | sorry. |
| 20:10.02 | tuxx | I've just installed a DVD burner on my running Debian Sarge k2.4, however I can't run cdrecord -scanbus without getting: |
| 20:10.05 | tuxx | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 20:10.08 | tuxx | How to solve this? |
| 20:10.09 | blackout | yes - to reclarify - i'm running debian testing with gnome, and alsa |
| 20:10.12 | paulswm | It's your standard Windows rant |
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| 20:10.20 | Dabian | blackout: This is good reading, though a little too verbose. |
| 20:10.20 | Dabian | !tell blackout about smart questions |
| 20:10.23 | blackout | i've tried gnome-alsamixer, and the gnome volume controls. |
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| 20:10.30 | takatumi | blackout: try alsamixer or gnome-alsamixer |
| 20:10.49 | PeTeRB | paulswm: Oook. |
| 20:10.50 | blackout | takatumi: yes, i've done that. |
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| 20:11.07 | asg | tuxx: try adding dev=ATAPI before -scanbus |
| 20:11.21 | Dabian | I thought I read something about saving alsa-settings on reboot .. I'm not sure it worked for sb live though. |
| 20:11.25 | blackout | the settings reset over logins. |
| 20:11.29 | valdyn | blackout: run "alsactl store" ( as root ) |
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| 20:11.38 | BleSS | hi! anybody knows to pcitools/pci id repository author (Martin Mares)? |
| 20:11.44 | reed | hello. normally when making a debian package all the files used are in a debian/ subdir. is there a way to tell stuff like debhelper to use a different directory? |
| 20:11.44 | blackout | valdyn: seriously? why in the world should that be required? |
| 20:11.50 | takatumi | blackout: maybe try alsactl store |
| 20:11.52 | blackout | valdyn: i desperately hope that doesn't work. |
| 20:12.07 | valdyn | blackout: eh? |
| 20:12.10 | blackout | i pity the desktop that won't let users adjust volume and save the settings. |
| 20:12.13 | valdyn | blackout: just run it |
| 20:12.37 | Dabian | blackout: Well .. if all applications use ESD .. sure. |
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| 20:12.44 | Dabian | blackout: However, I don't think they do .. |
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| 20:13.13 | valdyn | storing volume sense is none of the desktops business |
| 20:13.17 | Dabian | blackout: However, ESD is not very loved ... |
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| 20:13.30 | valdyn | s/sense/settings/ |
| 20:13.35 | Dabian | valdyn: Yes and no .. |
| 20:13.39 | cynWrk | I've got a 2.6 kernel on Woody (module-init-tools from backports.org) and I get "FATAL: Module foo not found." errors when using modprobe, but they load at boot time fine |
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| 20:14.05 | takatumi | cynWrk: server? |
| 20:14.07 | blackout | Dabian: valdyn : trying it now. |
| 20:14.08 | cynWrk | uname -r is set properly, /lib/modules/$KVER is there |
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| 20:14.23 | cynWrk | takatumi: im sorry? |
| 20:14.24 | blackout | i'm not running esd, by the way. |
| 20:14.26 | Dabian | cynWrk: Maybe they're in ya initrd cramfs stuff? |
| 20:14.31 | cynWrk | no initrd |
| 20:14.34 | asg | cynWrk: does 'depmod -a' fix things |
| 20:14.49 | mort | . |
| 20:14.49 | takatumi | cynWrk: is it a server or a desktop? |
| 20:15.00 | cynWrk | nope the module info is already right in /lib/modules/$KVER |
| 20:15.05 | cynWrk | takatumi: server |
| 20:15.27 | blackout | valdyn: right - i suppose not. |
| 20:15.43 | valdyn | blackout: did it work? |
| 20:16.00 | tuxx | asg: ohh now we're getting somewhere.. hang on |
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| 20:16.06 | valdyn | !find etc/init.d/alsa |
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| 20:16.13 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'etc/init.d/alsa' (1): (/etc/init.d/alsa) in sound/alsa-base. |
| 20:16.46 | blackout | valdyn: yes. |
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| 20:17.46 | valdyn | blackout: the package alsa-base contains the script that will store volume settings on shutdown and restore them on startup |
| 20:17.46 | blackout | valdyn: so everytime i want to change sound levels, i have to have root save them? |
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| 20:17.47 | jasoncohen | damn, gnomemeeting sucks. the webcam works fine with camstream at 640x480@15 fps |
| 20:18.10 | jasoncohen | but that's useless because i need a video conferencing app. every time gnomemeeting starts it segfaults |
| 20:18.13 | blackout | valdyn: i've already got that. |
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| 20:18.24 | jethro | jasoncohen: consider using skype then |
| 20:18.43 | asg | tuxx: 1) don't /msg people without asking. 2) use dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 |
| 20:18.52 | valdyn | !find usr/sbin/alsactl |
| 20:18.53 | PeTeRB | jethro: Does Skype for Linux already have video? |
| 20:18.54 | jasoncohen | jethro, ah yes. i forgot about that |
| 20:18.58 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'usr/sbin/alsactl' (1): (/usr/sbin/alsactl) in sound/alsa-utils. |
| 20:19.09 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: it's wrong |
| 20:19.21 | blackout | valdyn: have that too. |
| 20:19.26 | takatumi | tarzeau: so what does? |
| 20:19.33 | takatumi | camera.app? |
| 20:19.33 | erps | How do I force reinstallation of config files - if I screwed them up? :p for a specific package. apt-get --reinstall packagename doesn't seem to be working |
| 20:19.33 | erps | errr apt-get --reinstall install packagename that is :p |
| 20:19.39 | blackout | valdyn: i believe that one's even a dependency. |
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| 20:19.42 | jethro | PeTeRB: I heard of video support for skype, don't know for the linux client, but the mac os x one has it |
| 20:19.44 | tarzeau | takatumi: what does what? |
| 20:19.50 | jethro | PeTeRB: double check on their website |
| 20:19.52 | takatumi | tarzeau: video |
| 20:19.53 | tarzeau | takatumi: download pictures from your photo camera |
| 20:19.54 | jasoncohen | jethro, skype does videoconferencing? |
| 20:20.19 | valdyn | blackout: yea, you have alsa-base installed so obviously that script exists and at least tries to restore your volume settings |
| 20:20.24 | takatumi | tarzeau: bubbles? |
| 20:20.33 | blahdeblah | Hi. How can i get mdadm to update the device names in my RAID 1 md devices? At the moment the RAID members are /dev/hd[eg]* and to upgrade to the latest kernels i need them to be /dev/sd[ab]*. |
| 20:20.35 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: How do I start supertransball2? :/ |
| 20:20.48 | tarzeau | takatumi: nah, playing nethack: telnet linuks.mine.nu 27015 |
| 20:20.58 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: It prints where the config and data files are and quits |
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| 20:21.04 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: run "supertransball2" ? not as root? see dpkg -L supertransball2 |grep super |
| 20:21.08 | jethro | jasoncohen: I might be wrong but I heard it does |
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| 20:21.15 | valdyn | blackout: do you have discover or discover1 installed? |
| 20:21.16 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: or games (since games go not into /usr/bin but /usr/games) |
| 20:21.24 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: or use the debian menu system? |
| 20:21.39 | blackout | valdyn: discover1 |
| 20:21.47 | valdyn | blackout: or, even better, which mechanism is loading your sound card driver? |
| 20:21.54 | gourdin_ | is there a unrar-nonfree package for sid anywhere ? |
| 20:22.04 | blackout | valdyn: hwo do i find that out for sure? I'd imagine it'd be discover1 |
| 20:22.06 | darakn0r | this is a gsed question that can be solved with uber sed skills or weird shell syntax. I am running sed on vearly 900 tekt files and I want the changes saved to thone files or written to a new directory with the same name. |
| 20:22.12 | lostcause | Im trying to use my Orinoco gold card with Kismet, Im able to start kismet up however im unable to actuly detect any wireless networks. my onboard is detecting 4 (one that is not but 100feet away) |
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| 20:22.26 | takatumi | tarzeau: that is like 3X fastforward. what's going on? |
| 20:22.44 | tarzeau | takatumi: just wait, it'll slow down |
| 20:22.52 | tarzeau | takatumi: it shows all that i have played of today... |
| 20:23.11 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: I ran /usr/games/supertransball2 ;) It prints two lines about the location of config and data files and quits |
| 20:23.15 | takatumi | tarzeau: heh |
| 20:23.21 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: come on! |
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| 20:23.28 | omry | can I setup linux to balance the bandwidth usage per ip address, as opposed to per connection? (to prevents users opening many connections to get a larget share of the bandwidth) |
| 20:23.30 | tarzeau | takatumi: damn! i've played better... |
| 20:23.39 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: don't tell me it's broken |
| 20:23.39 | takatumi | tarzeau: bubbles, I got 1.4, it seems stable. |
| 20:23.43 | jethro | !lartc |
| 20:23.43 | dpkg | rumour has it, lartc is Linux advanced Routing & Traffic Control HOWTO, http://www.lartc.org/ |
| 20:23.50 | jethro | omry: ^^ |
| 20:23.52 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: what does it exactly say? |
| 20:24.04 | omry | jethro, checking, thanks. |
| 20:24.17 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: no window appears? oh he's addicted already... |
| 20:24.30 | dimitri | in a simple command line how can I get the sum up of the traffic (in+out) of my box, since a specific date ? |
| 20:24.34 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: /msg or #flood? |
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| 20:24.40 | tarzeau | dimitri: you can't |
| 20:24.48 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: /msg |
| 20:24.51 | valdyn | blackout: look at /var/log/boot |
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| 20:25.10 | valdyn | blackout: maybe it will also tell you why restoring volume settings does not work |
| 20:25.18 | dimitri | tarzeau: can 't iptraf output that ? |
| 20:25.18 | jethro | dimitri: you cant' |
| 20:25.26 | tarzeau | dimitri: not really |
| 20:25.39 | jethro | dimitri: it starts counting when you run it. |
| 20:25.44 | takatumi | tarzeau: gurkan-Val-Hum-Mal-Law died in The Dungeons of Doom on level 26 [max 28]. Drowned in a pool of water by an electric eel. you suck. |
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| 20:25.48 | dimitri | so there is no way or doing this ?? |
| 20:25.58 | jethro | dimitri: no ?!!11 |
| 20:26.04 | takatumi | tarzeau: girly way to die. :P |
| 20:26.06 | tarzeau | takatumi: bah! you know i've died in gehennom, after being on the vibrating square ... |
| 20:26.25 | tarzeau | takatumi: how do you die? well i was a Female (Valkeriye!) |
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| 20:26.39 | tarzeau | takatumi: that musta been an amulet of penis amputation |
| 20:26.47 | dimitri | jethro: iptraf starts counting when I run iptraf or the box ? |
| 20:26.49 | tarzeau | takatumi: err, the other way around |
| 20:26.50 | valdyn | valdyn: note however that volume settings may not be restored either way accross kernel changes, so if you just changed your kernel and rebooted, volume not being restored is expected |
| 20:26.54 | takatumi | tarzeau: I haven't played nethack, so I'll believe anything you tell me. |
| 20:26.54 | darakn0r | this is a gsed question that can be solved with uber sed skills or weird shell syntax. I am running sed on vearly 900 tekt files and I want the changes saved to thone files or written to a new directory with the same name. |
| 20:26.55 | jethro | dimitri: iptraf |
| 20:27.15 | tarzeau | takatumi: you ought to! #nethack |
| 20:27.17 | takatumi | darakn0r: #bash |
| 20:27.23 | dimitri | jethro: ok so I could have it running all the time and I could have a cron that restart it every month, right ? |
| 20:27.36 | takatumi | tarzeau: naah, bubbles. |
| 20:27.41 | tarzeau | darakn0r: what exactly do you want? |
| 20:27.54 | takatumi | special extra-bonus lemmings level. |
| 20:27.58 | jethro | dimitri: you could also use a better tool for the job, if you're worried with monitoring your bw usage |
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| 20:28.08 | darakn0r | tarzeau: i want to save the changes to the files somewhere |
| 20:28.25 | takatumi | tarzeau: just kidding, I gotta run for a bit. |
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| 20:29.03 | jasoncohen | this is the seg fault i get when i load gnomemeeting. "Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x724)!Segmentation fault " |
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| 20:29.05 | jasoncohen | any ideas? |
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| 20:29.14 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: works like a champion here... |
| 20:29.15 | ec_ | how can i do quick math operations on input in a bash script? |
| 20:29.18 | jethro | jasoncohen: I double checked, and skype doesn't do video yet, but it's an upcoming feature |
| 20:29.21 | valdyn | jasoncohen: file a bug report |
| 20:29.25 | omry | jethro, on the same note, is there a tool can show me current users connected to a particular port, manipulate total bandwidth assigned to that port, manipulate bandwidth allocated to a particular client etc? |
| 20:29.26 | tarzeau | ec_: use bc/dc? |
| 20:29.28 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Bah. |
| 20:29.34 | ec_ | like 'echo 5 | <something +5>' output 10 |
| 20:29.38 | valdyn | jasoncohen: if you are not running pure debian though - tough luck |
| 20:29.44 | ec_ | they can do that? |
| 20:29.45 | ec_ | ok |
| 20:29.48 | lostcause | Im trying to use my Orinoco gold card with Kismet, Im able to start kismet up however im unable to actuly detect any wireless networks. my onboard is detecting 4 (one that is not but 100feet away) |
| 20:29.56 | ecobit_ | son of a bitch ifconfig is cutting off names of interfaces which exceed its column width |
| 20:29.56 | lostcause | Anyone have any sugestions |
| 20:29.59 | dimitri | jethro: well, I only want a tool that report me if I go over a certain amount of bandwidth, I need a command line tool since I will run a script that will ask the traffic amount. So the simplest the better |
| 20:30.01 | mrwill | ec_: you need them for floating point math, bash can't do it itself. |
| 20:30.07 | jethro | omry: IPs connected to a port -> netstat magic, bw management -> tc |
| 20:30.25 | justin | dondelelcaro: really want to get sarge released eh? |
| 20:30.28 | ec_ | ok |
| 20:30.33 | jasoncohen | valdyn, what do you mean "pure debian"/ |
| 20:30.39 | tarzeau | justin: hey! |
| 20:30.47 | justin | tarzeau: hi |
| 20:30.50 | ec_ | how can i have them just do a simple add or subtract on stdin? |
| 20:30.52 | blackout | valdyn: i just did a reinstall of alsa-base and alsa-utils, and it seems to work fine now... |
| 20:31.00 | omry | jethro, about netstat, it has a display bug in ipv6, did you know? (it shows incorrect IP addresses when netstat -an is used) |
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| 20:31.10 | jethro | omry: no I didn't |
| 20:31.10 | tarzeau | justin: any news on your windows binary collection? |
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| 20:31.35 | justin | tarzeau: oh, that hasn't been up in ages.. since I graduated :-) |
| 20:31.48 | omry | jethro, it crops them sometimes. its really annoying because the only way to get the full IP is not to use -an, which takes forever. |
| 20:31.55 | justin | tarzeau: one thing I was working on before then was a file containing the asbolute urls of all the exes, so I could write an update.sh for them |
| 20:31.56 | jethro | omry: which netstat are you talking about? |
| 20:32.13 | omry | jethro, the one comes with debian sarge. |
| 20:32.24 | tarzeau | justin: i've gotten rid of all windows and solaris since 1,5 years now ;) |
| 20:32.29 | jethro | omry: is there already a bug for this problem? |
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| 20:32.34 | justin | tarzeau: nice :-) what do you run on the sparcs now? |
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| 20:32.41 | omry | jethro, yes. about one year old. |
| 20:32.42 | tarzeau | justin: but added OPENSTEP to my list of regularly used software |
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| 20:32.46 | FlimFlamMan | does anyone have an opinion on what package in Debian is the closest analog to Microsoft Sharepoint ? |
| 20:32.48 | jethro | damn |
| 20:32.51 | tarzeau | justin: netbsd,linux and mach |
| 20:32.57 | justin | FlimFlamMan: what is a sharepoint? |
| 20:33.07 | jethro | omry: then read /proc and don't use netstat |
| 20:33.10 | FlimFlamMan | justin, web-based collaboration type stuff |
| 20:33.17 | justin | FlimFlamMan: like a wiki? |
| 20:33.34 | tarzeau | justin: sounds more like a warez tool |
| 20:33.57 | omry | jethro, you mean /proc/net/ip6 ? didn't find the documenation for the format.. |
| 20:33.59 | tarzeau | FlimFlamMan: i think you want an ftp server |
| 20:34.00 | FlimFlamMan | justin, kind of... i've only used it briefly several months ago, i don't recall exactly. i want to propose a F/OSS alternative to it, which has been recommended here |
| 20:34.21 | jethro | omry: it should be detailed in the kernel source tree, utsl |
| 20:34.30 | tarzeau | FlimFlamMan: and what will be it of good, to propose an alternative here? |
| 20:34.54 | FlimFlamMan | tarzeau, please rephrase that |
| 20:34.58 | tarzeau | FlimFlamMan: debian is no software development company, it just packages/bugfixes/ports existing software |
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| 20:35.06 | takatumi | tarzeau: heh, no. check this. http://www.microsoft.com/sharepoint/default.mspx |
| 20:35.10 | tarzeau | FlimFlamMan: what do you really want? |
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| 20:35.15 | tarzeau | takatumi: please |
| 20:35.22 | omry | jethro, all I want is to list the connected ip address. sending a poor user to the source may work in some cases, but not all. |
| 20:35.23 | omry | :) |
| 20:35.25 | tarzeau | takatumi: that's like posting goatse links! |
| 20:35.27 | FlimFlamMan | tarzeau, to not use microsoft tech on ther server side |
| 20:35.40 | tarzeau | FlimFlamMan: don't see the relation to #debian |
| 20:35.44 | takatumi | tarzeau: man it's funny what they come up with to sell. |
| 20:35.51 | tarzeau | FlimFlamMan: but call it free software instead of f/oss stuff |
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| 20:36.13 | FlimFlamMan | tarzeau, the relation is that i want someting in the debian repositories |
| 20:36.15 | Lafitte-- | how do i see or list my swap partition ? |
| 20:36.36 | mikeX | haha, that place cracks me up - sharepoing my ass : P |
| 20:37.05 | tarzeau | Lafitte--: using fdisk -l ? |
| 20:37.08 | valdyn | Lafitte-: swapon -s |
| 20:37.12 | tarzeau | !myass |
| 20:37.12 | dpkg | rumour has it, myass is http://jovan.ru/pics/even-more-crap/Bender.jpg |
| 20:37.55 | jethro | omry: a poor user limited by a netstat bug on ipv6 is not the average joe, and could be willing to either figure out what the /proc entries mean, for they are not that cryptic, or read the kernel documentation, if not the source code |
| 20:38.03 | FlimFlamMan | can't even watch the goddamn demo video |
| 20:38.09 | Lafitte-- | tarzeau, i have alot of partitons im doing duel boot with shared storage drive i also made a swap partition and want to make sure it is used in my debian install |
| 20:38.26 | jethro | omry: otoh, if you use iptables and ip_conntrack on the box, you have the same information available in /proc/net/ip_conntrack |
| 20:38.32 | blahdeblah | Trying again: How can i get mdadm to update the device names in my RAID 1 md devices? At the moment the RAID members are /dev/hd[eg]* and to upgrade to the latest kernels i need them to be /dev/sd[ab]*. |
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| 20:39.08 | jethro | omry: now if you want to be handhold, that's another problem |
| 20:39.12 | Lafitte-- | tarzeau, yes that shows the whole drive partitons but how do i make sure linus is usuing the swap file or if it has made one in the first drive ? |
| 20:39.27 | valdyn | Lafitte-: swapon -s |
| 20:39.38 | justin | blahdeblah: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
| 20:39.44 | mikeX | Lafitte--, and 'man swapon' |
| 20:39.48 | tarzeau | Lafitte--: free -m should show them |
| 20:39.54 | Lafitte-- | valdyn, yes thank you |
| 20:39.58 | tarzeau | Lafitte--: how much memory do you have, how much swap total? why do you need so much? |
| 20:40.14 | tarzeau | Lafitte--: i mean you're like talking you've got 8 x 2 gb swap partitions |
| 20:40.19 | justin | blahdeblah: may have problems with initrd though if your / is on raid |
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| 20:40.23 | Lafitte-- | tarzeau, i have 768 ram and have 1.5g swap |
| 20:40.36 | jethro | would be a pain to karma Lafitte-- , be it ++ or -- |
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| 20:41.16 | Marble2 | Would someone walk me through setting my smb.conf so that my windows machine can view my samba share? Right now I'm getting permission errors |
| 20:41.36 | tarzeau | Marble2: nfs is so much nicer to set up |
| 20:41.36 | omry | jethro, seems to have ip_conntrack on one machine, but on the other. how do I enable it |
| 20:41.37 | omry | ? |
| 20:41.38 | Lafitte-- | what i did was made 10g for debian 10g for windows 18.5g for storage and 1.5 for swap is this ok ? |
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| 20:41.52 | jethro | !handhold omry |
| 20:42.00 | tarzeau | Lafitte--: looks fine, personally i would've given less to swap |
| 20:42.10 | Marble2 | =/ |
| 20:42.13 | omry | jethro, gotcha. thanks. |
| 20:42.15 | Lafitte-- | tarzeau, whats the ratio i would use to set that ? |
| 20:42.17 | blahdeblah | justin: Spot on with the 2nd comment - i can't mount /, so i don't think mdadm.conf is going to make any difference. |
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| 20:42.36 | Pauk | tarzeau: I'm inclined to agree that NFS is nicer to set up and use. But do Windows workstations let you browse NFS shares straight out of the box? |
| 20:42.47 | tarzeau | Pauk: no they don't |
| 20:42.52 | Marble2 | anyone? |
| 20:42.56 | tarzeau | !anyone |
| 20:42.56 | dpkg | [anyone] ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 20:43.00 | darakn0r | Pauk: win2k sort of can |
| 20:43.10 | justin | blahdeblah: you should be able to bring it up manually and then mount it |
| 20:43.28 | justin | blahdeblah: just use mdadm -A ... |
| 20:43.29 | Pauk | tarzeau: Then he obviously has a reason to use Samba and not NFS. 'nuff said. |
| 20:43.49 | tarzeau | Pauk: sure he does. but it might as well be nobody guides him through that |
| 20:43.53 | blahdeblah | justin: I can do that from another partition, but as soon as i try to boot from the main partition it starts complaining about /dev/hd[eg]6 again. |
| 20:44.01 | tarzeau | Pauk: and getting questions like that more than once are more than annoying |
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| 20:44.09 | Pauk | darakn0r: *Shrug* I believe you can if you install SFU, but Samba is just easier. :) My point was tarzeau shouldn't be telling him to use a more advanced option in place of a simpler one. |
| 20:44.23 | justin | blahdeblah: if you're using an initrd dpkg-reconfigure <your kernel> and it will regenerate it with the propper devices |
| 20:44.23 | Pauk | tarzeau: Well you're in a channel where lots of people come to for help. Deal with it. Or ignore it. :) |
| 20:44.24 | dondelelcaro | justin: well, we are down to a rather small collection of RC bugs, most of which should be closed very soon |
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| 20:44.56 | blahdeblah | justin: Thanks, trying now. |
| 20:44.57 | justin | dondelelcaro: I was debating filing a bug on wget, but I think i'll wait :-) |
| 20:45.02 | darakn0r | Pauk: yeah.. and samba can be easy depending on donmain model but i have to run |
| 20:45.02 | dimitri | how can I grep from a command line output ? |
| 20:45.09 | justin | blahdeblah: well, after you get it working and chroot that is |
| 20:45.13 | tarzeau | dimitri: | grep |
| 20:45.18 | dimitri | ok |
| 20:45.22 | darakn0r | command | grep |
| 20:45.30 | dimitri | thanks |
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| 20:46.01 | blahdeblah | justin: so i need to run it up from my other drive and then do the initrd recreation? |
| 20:46.29 | erps | How do I return to the original config files for something - if I failed to back them up? Screwed up exim4 finally :p And wanting to return to original config files, but even removing the existing and reinstalling exim4 doesn't seem to put them back. It'll make the directories, but no config files. |
| 20:46.34 | justin | blahdeblah: yeah, I had done it from the debian cd.. was a pain to type in the devfs paths but it worked |
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| 20:46.44 | blahdeblah | justin: I' |
| 20:46.46 | justin | erps: purge it |
| 20:46.49 | B_Raven | *scratches head* what was the name of the nice shiny CLI TCL interpreter? |
| 20:47.00 | Inv1s1bleAtWork | how do I determine what files are in a given package in debian? (like rpm -ql <packagename> in Redhat or epm -ql <packagename> in Gentoo)? |
| 20:47.14 | blahdeblah | Sorry - i've got a base install on a non-RAID, non-SATA drive. I can do lots from there. |
| 20:47.17 | erps | justin, can I make it just remove exim4 when I do that? It keeps wanting to remove mysql at the same time.. and I have other things that use mysql |
| 20:47.20 | justin | Inv1s1bleAtWork: with dpkg |
| 20:47.26 | lewis | can someone name a console based scp debian package? |
| 20:47.30 | jethro | Inv1s1bleAtWork: dpkg -L |
| 20:47.35 | Inv1s1bleAtWork | jethro, thanks |
| 20:47.44 | simonrvn | B_Raven: tcl8.4 or tk8.x. man apt-cache |
| 20:47.45 | darakn0r | lewis: ssh provides scp |
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| 20:47.51 | Marble2 | Would someone walk me through setting my smb.conf so that my windows machine can view my samba share? Right now I'm getting permission errors |
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| 20:47.56 | erps | justin, thanks :) |
| 20:47.57 | justin | erps: you should also be able to dpkg -i it with --force-confmiss |
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| 20:48.14 | lewis | oh - let me learn the commands |
| 20:48.16 | jethro | Inv1s1bleAtWork: dpkg -L package lists all files in package. dpkg -S /usr/bin/foo tells you which package this file belongs too |
| 20:48.20 | erps | ok |
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| 20:48.31 | jethro | Inv1s1bleAtWork: man dpkg for more info |
| 20:48.32 | Inv1s1bleAtWork | jethro, thanks man! |
| 20:48.36 | drasko | hi all. Why firefox wont open php file I made? It constanly keeps asking me what it should do with file... |
| 20:48.53 | Diezel | Anyone tried mounting NFS of an MS SFU 3.5 server? It mount's fine but ls shows an empty directory |
| 20:48.56 | blahdeblah | justin: Thanks for the help. You look like you're having about 5 conversations, so i'll head off to try the chroot now. |
| 20:49.01 | jethro | Inv1s1bleAtWork: also /msg dpkg seach. there is useful information in this factoid |
| 20:49.05 | justin | drasko: firefox has nothing to do with it. you didn't set up apache right |
| 20:49.11 | B_Raven | simonrvn: I mean an app to pass the scripts to, remember using one once upon a time, but I've forgotten it's name. Really need to write it down somewhere. |
| 20:49.15 | justin | blahdeblah: just trying to stay awake heh |
| 20:49.16 | darakn0r | drasko: you need to have a web server host it, the web server executes |
| 20:49.18 | simonrvn | drasko: that's the server, not the browser's fault |
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| 20:49.26 | blahdeblah | Inv1s1bleAtWork: beware: dpkg -S is not as comprehensive as rpm -qf, since not all files are registered with dpkg |
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| 20:50.02 | jethro | blahdeblah: would the rpm equivalent of dpkg -S know of files not registered in the rpm db anyway? |
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| 20:50.14 | darakn0r | Inv1s1bleAtWork: rpm doesn't register all either |
| 20:50.19 | simonrvn | i doubt it |
| 20:50.26 | drasko | but i am hosting some php content ok... |
| 20:50.27 | jethro | I m sure it wouldn't |
| 20:50.52 | lewis | bah - i get host key verification failed, when trying to use scp |
| 20:51.08 | justin | lewis: fix your ~/.ssh/known_hosts then |
| 20:51.12 | darakn0r | drasko: are you using http to read the file? |
| 20:51.22 | simonrvn | only having briefly used an rpm-based distro, i'm limited in my knowledge about it |
| 20:51.34 | drasko | darakn0r, how to check that? |
| 20:51.43 | drasko | afaict, no, php with my apache seems to work... I am hoating some sites with php content and they work... But custom php file I amde with Bluefish won't open in Firefox... |
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| 20:52.06 | kullanici | how can upgrade from woody to 3.1 ? |
| 20:52.15 | simonrvn | drasko: stick it on a server... |
| 20:52.26 | darakn0r | drasko: your browser should say "http://host/file" instead of "file:///home/user" |
| 20:52.34 | tarzeau | kullanici: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 20:52.36 | simonrvn | kullanici: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 20:52.41 | simonrvn | tarzeau: heh |
| 20:52.45 | tarzeau | simonrvn: heh |
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| 20:52.53 | elad2 | hello all |
| 20:52.58 | Spec | simonrvn, tarzeau: heh |
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| 20:53.20 | elad2 | someone can tell me please what is the modprobe command to load SURECOM EP-320X-S 100/10M ? |
| 20:53.24 | drasko | simonrvn, And would it work if I don't stick it on a server? |
| 20:53.29 | lewis | justin: sorry - how do I create the known_hosts file? |
| 20:53.38 | tarzeau | lewis: ssh to some host |
| 20:53.48 | justin | lewis: you don't create it, you fix the one that you already have that is confused |
| 20:53.50 | simonrvn | no. php has to be parsed, like an html file with SSI includes in it |
| 20:54.08 | drasko | darakn0r, It is not on the server, I just doubleclick the icon in my folder... |
| 20:54.13 | Spec | naa, php doesn't need to be parsed |
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| 20:54.21 | reto_ | tarzeau: merci |
| 20:54.30 | Spec | it just needs to be parsed if you want it to be valid html |
| 20:54.37 | darakn0r | drasko: therein lies the issue |
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| 20:54.47 | elad2 | someone please :S ? |
| 20:54.49 | simonrvn | Spec: he's wanting the output, so yes, it does have to be parsed |
| 20:54.57 | Spec | yes...if you want the good output :p |
| 20:54.58 | lewis | i can ssh to the host fine, but no known_hosts is created for my user, although there is one for root. |
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| 20:55.02 | dimitri | can someone help with my grep ? I am searching for everything included between "TX packets" and " errors:", how do I do this ? |
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| 20:55.17 | apollo2011 | I am trying to put Knoppix on my Creative Zen Micro MP3 player, which has a Removable Drive feature. Â It doesn't seem to mount on Linux, but I copied the files in the ISO over to the MP3 player on Windows. Â When I try to boot it, it complains that NTLDR is missing. Â This is apparently the Windows NT hardware detector. Â Is there something i can do to fix this or can I not put Knoppix on my Zen Micro? |
| 20:55.44 | drasko | darakn0r, so it has to be on the server? Can not be started with doubleclick? |
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| 20:56.22 | jethro | lewis: what are the perms on $USER/.ssh/known_hosts ? |
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| 20:56.41 | lewis | there is no .ssh directory. |
| 20:56.47 | erps | Ok , why the hell does mysql apparently have a dependency on exim4. |
| 20:56.54 | lewis | nevermind, i installed proftpd now. |
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| 20:57.01 | jethro | lewis: ah |
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| 20:57.21 | PeTeRB | erps: Any MTA should work. |
| 20:58.13 | iLLf8d | shit |
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| 20:58.20 | Kobaz | does anyone happen to have an x300 working with xfree |
| 20:58.25 | Kobaz | er, an ati x300 |
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| 20:58.45 | justin | Kobaz: my laptop has an x300 that works, though I have ubuntu on it... |
| 20:59.02 | Kobaz | justin: using xfree? i would like to not have to mess with xorg |
| 20:59.18 | justin | Kobaz: no, it has xorg, don't know if xfree86 would work or not, never tried |
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| 20:59.22 | Kobaz | ah |
| 20:59.28 | Kobaz | are you using ati's own driver? |
| 20:59.32 | Kobaz | and what kernel |
| 20:59.54 | timo | erps, it depends on mailx, which in turn depends on "exim4 | mail-transport-agent" |
| 20:59.57 | justin | yeah, for 3d.. the xorg driver works perfectly for 2d though.. whatever kernel ubuntu has, I forget which |
| 21:00.05 | rking | anyone know how to update the code underneath a mod_perl apache with 100% uptime? for example, i'd like to run a parallel server on a different port, and swap it in when it's ready |
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| 21:00.31 | drasko | simonrvn, so .php has to be on the server? Can not be started with doubleclick? |
| 21:00.32 | reed | is there a kind of "dummy" MTA that just, like, logs messages to a file or something, to satisfy these dependencies without needing a full-fledged mail server? |
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| 21:00.48 | PeTeRB | reed: ssmtp |
| 21:00.48 | tarzeau | dimitri: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 |awk '{if (($0) ~ /TX pack/) { gsub("packets:",""); print $2 } }' |
| 21:00.51 | tarzeau | dimitri: is that what you want? |
| 21:00.54 | justin | reed: that is all a 'full-fledged' mail sever does to begin with |
| 21:01.00 | reed | well |
| 21:01.03 | Kobaz | justin: all i want, is for Xv to work really |
| 21:01.15 | Kobaz | but 3d would be nice |
| 21:01.21 | reed | I guess I mean lightweight/very simple |
| 21:01.31 | Kobaz | justin: xfree uses the vesa driver, which doesnt support Xv |
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| 21:01.38 | tarzeau | dimitri: otherwise you'll need cut and grep |
| 21:01.39 | justin | Kobaz: the 'ati' driver doesn't work? |
| 21:01.40 | Kobaz | i may just have to load up xorg then |
| 21:01.45 | Kobaz | justin: nope |
| 21:01.50 | simonrvn | drasko: what do you mean double click? exec locally? i highly doubt that will work. upload it to a server somewhere, even a properly configured local apache or some other httpd will work |
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| 21:01.58 | justin | Kobaz: what about installing fglrx? |
| 21:02.02 | Kobaz | tried |
| 21:02.04 | reed | even ssmtp seems to depend on SSL |
| 21:02.06 | Kobaz | i get module mismatch |
| 21:02.08 | drasko | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.17 | Kobaz | when trying to load x, the kerel module works fine (after some patching) |
| 21:02.25 | Hamled|Erp | How would I "remove" a network interface? IE, ifconfig doesn't show wlan0, but when I try to start up a new wireless device, it attempts to use wlan1, instead of wlan0, how can I "free up" wlan0? |
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| 21:02.44 | tarzeau | Hamled|Erp: remove the driver module |
| 21:02.53 | Hamled|Erp | the module is unloaded |
| 21:02.53 | reed | There are lots of packages that depend on an MTA because they send informatinve messages to root@localhost, so they don't really need any forwarding to other servers even. |
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| 21:03.08 | Kobaz | Hamled|Erp: then its in your kernel, why would you want to do that anyway? |
| 21:03.20 | Hamled|Erp | it's definitely not in the kernel |
| 21:03.45 | Kobaz | justin: Xv works and everything with xorg? |
| 21:03.54 | Hamled|Erp | Kobaz, it's saying that it failed to initialize the wlan1 device, I was hoping maybe it'd work as wlan0? (unlikely, but I need som hope) |
| 21:04.14 | dondelelcaro | Hamled|Erp: the names of the devices mean nothing |
| 21:04.27 | takatumi | Hamled|Erp: using udev? |
| 21:04.38 | Hamled|Erp | *shrug* dunno |
| 21:04.46 | dondelelcaro | you could use nameif to rename wlan1 to ilikespam0 if you wanted. |
| 21:05.20 | Kobaz | Hamled|Erp: send your app wlan1 |
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| 21:05.29 | Hamled|Erp | Kobaz, eh? |
| 21:05.31 | Kobaz | Hamled|Erp: it would be very odd if it didnt support multiple interfaces |
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| 21:05.47 | Kobaz | Hamled|Erp: the interface should be configurable |
| 21:05.54 | Kobaz | set it to wlan1 |
| 21:06.12 | Kobaz | how and where, is an excersize for the reader, heh |
| 21:07.20 | Hamled|Erp | ok |
| 21:07.48 | jason_ | well, i recompiled gnomemeeting from source and got the same seg fault |
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| 21:08.54 | kullanici | what's backports.org's sarge url ? |
| 21:08.59 | kullanici | for source.list |
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| 21:09.49 | PeTeRB | kullanici: sarge will be stable soon, why bother? |
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| 21:10.34 | kullanici | PeTeRB i bought a server and i need to install sarge for plesk |
| 21:11.00 | PeTeRB | So install sarge :/ |
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| 21:11.13 | kullanici | ok but i need sarge url for backports.org mirror |
| 21:11.18 | PeTeRB | !d-i |
| 21:11.18 | dpkg | [d-i] the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 21:11.27 | kullanici | deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge initrd-tools <- this is false :( |
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| 21:11.39 | PeTeRB | kullanici: You have woody now? |
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| 21:11.50 | asg | kullanici: if backports.org doesn't list any, there isn't one. |
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| 21:11.52 | kullanici | PeTeRB yes |
| 21:12.18 | PeTeRB | kullanici: Upgrade to sarge then :/ |
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| 21:12.42 | kullanici | PeTeRB how ??? |
| 21:12.55 | PeTeRB | kullanici: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
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| 21:13.14 | kullanici | oh |
| 21:13.27 | PeTeRB | Uh. |
| 21:13.32 | kullanici | PeTeRB i did it.. so i need backports mirror.. can't i tell ? |
| 21:13.38 | tarzeau | PeTeRB, jethro, abrotman, RichiH: short oen? |
| 21:13.47 | mrwill | hmmm... I really should use aptitude to dist-upgrade to sarge? |
| 21:13.48 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'm at work! :) |
| 21:13.49 | peritus | kullanici: you won't need backports at all |
| 21:13.50 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: If ssh won't be slow |
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| 21:14.34 | Azar | PeTeRB: what is the difference between alsa_base and alsa_driver, do I need them both? |
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| 21:14.49 | blahdeblah | justin: Thanks for all the help - i've now rebooted on 2.6.8-11-k7 and all is good! Might have to write up a quick howto on this. |
| 21:14.55 | PeTeRB | Azar: Did you install with 2.6 or 2.4 kernel? |
| 21:15.08 | Azar | PeTeRB: 2.6.8-2k7 kernel |
| 21:15.14 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: ok, i've started a server |
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| 21:15.33 | exerd_ | does http://exerd.mine.nu/ work? |
| 21:15.35 | PeTeRB | Azar: AFAIK alsa is already compiled into 2.6.8 kernel images :/ |
| 21:16.11 | peritus | exerd_: no |
| 21:16.11 | Azar | PeTeRB, I think you are right, so in that case I only need alsa_base from apt-cache kernel-image list right? |
| 21:16.15 | exerd_ | damn |
| 21:16.29 | tarzeau | exerd_: no |
| 21:16.35 | jason_ | i fixed gnomemeeting |
| 21:16.36 | tarzeau | exerd_: try iptables -F |
| 21:16.48 | PeTeRB | !moron Azar |
| 21:16.49 | dpkg | Azar: You are moron #72 |
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| 21:16.58 | jason_ | by default it uses v4l2 which is highly experimental and unstable |
| 21:17.07 | TheMoebius | what do I have to install so I can read chinese text on websites? |
| 21:17.08 | exerd_ | tarzeau, im using /etc/hosts |
| 21:17.13 | Azar | ouch PeTeRB, sorry I do not see the difference between "compiled" and "not compiled" |
| 21:17.18 | jason_ | i uninstalled libpt-plugins-v4l2 and the problem went away. it works fine with v4l |
| 21:17.18 | tarzeau | exerd_: what's your ip? |
| 21:17.33 | exerd_ | tarzeau, 81.226.2.177 |
| 21:17.46 | asg | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
| 21:17.46 | asg | exerd.mine.nu. 14399 IN A 81.226.2.178 |
| 21:17.47 | Azar | PeTeRB I have not installed alsa yet, but I do see some snd_ alsa modules out there |
| 21:17.52 | stetyR | hi |
| 21:18.00 | stetyR | jason |
| 21:18.01 | tarzeau | exerd_: and you run a webserver? netstat -plunt |
| 21:18.03 | exerd_ | tarzeau, this is my hostsfile http://pastebin.com/294152 |
| 21:18.09 | PeTeRB | Azar: They should be in the kernel. You just need the alsa-* packages |
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| 21:18.14 | tarzeau | exerd_: and you've not got some firewall crap? |
| 21:18.23 | exerd_ | tarzeau, no |
| 21:18.25 | Azar | PeTeRB: oh thanks |
| 21:18.37 | tarzeau | exerd_: why 81.226.2.255 ??? |
| 21:18.41 | tarzeau | exerd_: and not .178 ? |
| 21:19.09 | exerd_ | tarzeau, oh sorry i mean 81.226.2.178 |
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| 21:19.18 | tarzeau | exerd_: you run apache? |
| 21:19.21 | exerd_ | tarzeau, can you please take a look at my hostsfile? |
| 21:19.32 | tarzeau | exerd_: you can look at mine, www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/ |
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| 21:19.33 | stetyR | i have apache |
| 21:19.35 | exerd_ | tarzeau, yepp. i can access the webpage from this computer. |
| 21:19.38 | dx^ | can i get a kind of netlimiter for my Debian? |
| 21:19.51 | abrotman | !info trickle |
| 21:19.57 | tarzeau | exerd_: can you remove all lines except the exerd.mine.nu exerd ones? |
| 21:19.57 | dpkg | trickle: (user-space bandwidth shaper), section net, is optional. Version: 1.07-3 (sid), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 21:20.13 | tarzeau | exerd_: although i don't think this is the problem |
| 21:20.36 | tarzeau | exerd_: Trying 81.226.2.178... |
| 21:20.36 | tarzeau | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 21:20.43 | exerd_ | tarzeau, hmm im sharing internet to another computer through a crossed tpcable and two nics wouldnt that mess it up_ |
| 21:20.46 | tarzeau | exerd_: you're isp sucks, or your router/computer sucks |
| 21:20.56 | tarzeau | exerd_: you suck |
| 21:20.56 | nonoo | Quick GCC question, I apt-get'd the gcc package, but I dont' seem to have any of my .h files, like it says stdio.h: no such file or directory |
| 21:21.03 | dx^ | abrotman was that for me? |
| 21:21.05 | exerd_ | tarzeau, XD |
| 21:21.09 | asg | nonoo: apt-get install build-essential |
| 21:21.14 | abrotman | dx^: i think that's what you want |
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| 21:21.17 | dx^ | ok thx |
| 21:21.31 | jbl | idlers |
| 21:21.40 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Sorry, still lagging |
| 21:22.03 | exerd_ | tarzeau, try if it works now |
| 21:22.06 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: easy |
| 21:22.13 | tarzeau | exerd_: same |
| 21:22.18 | exerd_ | tarzeau, OMG |
| 21:22.23 | PeTeRB | tarzeau: Sorry? |
| 21:22.26 | jason_ | how do i submit a bug report to debian's gnomemeeting package? |
| 21:22.26 | tarzeau | exerd_: look can you draw? |
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| 21:22.30 | tarzeau | exerd_: or make a photo? |
| 21:22.33 | asg | jason_: install reportbug |
| 21:22.39 | exerd_ | tarzeau, haha of what? |
| 21:22.41 | tarzeau | PeTeRB: well all fruits for me ;) |
| 21:22.49 | tarzeau | exerd_: your comptuers and cabling |
| 21:22.55 | tarzeau | exerd_: because you can't explain it well with words |
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| 21:23.19 | exerd_ | hmm dont have software for drawing X) but ill try explaining it |
| 21:23.45 | PeTeRB | exerd_: Draw ASCII |
| 21:23.56 | exerd_ | haha |
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| 21:24.24 | bbrazil | exerd_: he's not joking |
| 21:24.26 | exerd_ | tarzeau, computer1 has two NICs one is connected to my ADSLmodem and the other is connected to computer2 through a crossed cable |
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| 21:24.55 | exerd_ | bbrazil, i cant draw it in ASCII ):D |
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| 21:25.00 | bbrazil | adsl <---> comp1 <---> comp2 |
| 21:25.07 | PeTeRB | exerd_: It's easy |
| 21:25.11 | tarzeau | exerd_: and your webserver is on comp2 |
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| 21:25.18 | exerd_ | hmm yea ut was pretty simple |
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| 21:25.27 | exerd_ | tarzeau, no number 1 |
| 21:25.33 | tarzeau | exerd_: and comp1 runs what os? certainly it doesn't forward packets |
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| 21:25.42 | tarzeau | exerd_: that is directly having the internet ip? |
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| 21:25.49 | exerd_ | tarzeau, freeBSD |
| 21:25.53 | tarzeau | exerd_: look run telnet localhost 80 on the machine please |
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| 21:26.06 | fabietto | hi at all... |
| 21:26.18 | fabietto | someone can suggest me a good matlab editor for linux? |
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| 21:26.54 | exerd_ | tarzeau, su-2.05b# telnet localhost 80 |
| 21:26.55 | exerd_ | Trying ::1... |
| 21:26.55 | exerd_ | Connected to localhost. |
| 21:26.55 | exerd_ | Escape character is '^]'. |
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| 21:27.22 | tarzeau | exerd_: so that computer is freebsd, eh? |
| 21:27.29 | tarzeau | exerd_: and the other computer is what? debian? |
| 21:27.34 | exerd_ | tarzeau, yea |
| 21:28.41 | tarzeau | exerd_: all works on the other computer? (the debian one)? |
| 21:28.47 | exerd_ | tarzeau, yes |
| 21:29.02 | tarzeau | exerd_: and they don't help you on #freebsd, right? |
| 21:29.11 | exerd_ | tarzeau, no |
| 21:29.32 | exerd_ | tarzeau, maybe you can access my configs by ssh? |
| 21:29.53 | tarzeau | exerd_: sure, what's the user/password? |
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| 21:30.29 | stetyR | estan |
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| 21:31.37 | drasko | I have created dbconnect.php, but putting the include("dbconnect.php") in my other file just list the content of my dbconnect.php file (instead connecting to database...). What's wrong? |
| 21:31.59 | stetyR | yo busco a brick |
| 21:32.35 | peritus | drasko: wrong channel, but you probably missed the php start and end tag: <?PHP /* code */ ?> |
| 21:32.56 | rkreider | To list the content? |
| 21:33.28 | peritus | it won't be parsed as php if the tags aren't there |
| 21:33.35 | rkreider | Yeah |
| 21:33.36 | PeTeRB | drasko: You need php tags in dbconnect.php, and wrong channel |
| 21:33.58 | PeTeRB | !moron me |
| 21:33.59 | dpkg | peterb: You are moron #22 |
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| 21:34.14 | naoliv | Hi. Wich package provides "/usr/bin/gs"? |
| 21:34.22 | PeTeRB | naoliv: /msg dpkg search |
| 21:34.56 | naoliv | PeTeRB: Thanks |
| 21:36.07 | simonrvn | crap. |
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| 21:36.59 | naoliv | PeTeRB: No... the problem is that /usr/bin/gs is created by the postinst script. For example, gs-gpl package provides /usr/bin/gs-gpl but when installed, it creates a /usr/bin/gs also. Is it there a way to find all the packages that provide this /usr/bin/gs file? |
| 21:37.16 | wilbertoki | can I disable all logging on my mythtv box by somehow diabling syslogd? The logs keep filling up and taking up 100% of my drive |
| 21:37.38 | Celiun | could someone help me? Been trying to get xserver to run, had it running too untill I changed the driver to corrospond with my graphics card, which is an nVidia, I ran xf86config after rebooting and filled in the needed info and the config looks like it's suppose to, only problem is, that whenever I run startx I get an error stating that the driver for my graphics card isn't valid, any ideas? |
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| 21:38.10 | Celiun | btw, my graphics card is a nVidia GeForce FX 5900 chipset |
| 21:38.14 | drasko | peritus, PeTeRB, yes, you were right... Thank you very much... About the wrong channel - Debian people know the most anyway :) |
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| 21:38.40 | astronut | !apt nagios |
| 21:38.56 | simonrvn | wilbertoki: be better to turn down logging for the thing that's filling up syslog |
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| 21:40.12 | wilbertoki | simonrvn: thats a good thought |
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| 21:41.38 | jason_ | asg, ok, i've written the bug report. now how do i exit vim and submit it? |
| 21:42.08 | PeTeRB | jason_: Esc :w :q |
| 21:42.11 | reed | We love vim. |
| 21:42.14 | apollo2011 | I am trying to put Knoppix on my Creative Zen Micro MP3 player, which has a Removable Drive feature. Â It doesn't seem to mount on Linux, but I copied the files in the ISO over to the MP3 player on Windows. Â When I try to boot it, it complains that NTLDR is missing. Â This is apparently the Windows NT hardware detector. Â Is there something i can do to fix this or can I not put Knoppix on my Zen Micro? |
| 21:42.28 | shingouz | apollo2011: #knoppix |
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| 21:43.00 | apollo2011 | no one is in there... |
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| 21:43.07 | shingouz | so? |
| 21:43.20 | apollo2011 | well I asked |
| 21:43.23 | PeTeRB | reed: gvim sometimes is a helpful thing to have :| |
| 21:43.30 | shingouz | apollo2011: knoppix is not debian. you want to run knoppix ask in #knoppix |
| 21:44.13 | apollo2011 | shingouz: its debian based and if no one in here can help, then I asked and it doesn't matter |
| 21:44.16 | sepski | apollo2011, now, but if you were to install sarge on that, the answer might be to install a proper bootloader like grub. |
| 21:44.17 | wilbertoki | if I just change the log direcotory from /var/log to /dev/null that would be a way to disable logging ? |
| 21:44.19 | Azar | 2005-5-30: The Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 release is now planned for next monday. << from linuxcompatible.org |
| 21:44.38 | jason_ | PeTeRB, it says file exists. use ! to override. :w :q ! says only one filename allowed |
| 21:44.40 | gvdkamp | shingouz: isn't knoppix based on debian? |
| 21:44.42 | tarzeau | apollo2011: look /msg dpkg knoppix |
| 21:44.45 | tarzeau | apollo2011: look /msg dpkg repeast |
| 21:44.45 | paulswm | !tell apollo2011 about debian-based |
| 21:44.46 | shingouz | ffs... |
| 21:44.49 | tarzeau | repeat even |
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| 21:45.10 | shingouz | someone smite someone :) |
| 21:45.15 | PeTeRB | jason_: :w and :q are seperate commands |
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| 21:45.17 | tarzeau | !tell gvdkamp about debian-based |
| 21:45.33 | paulswm | !singlishsmite apollo2011 |
| 21:45.34 | dpkg | apollo2011: Say some more, lah! Like I care! |
| 21:45.41 | PeTeRB | jason_: Try :w! (write) and then :q (quit) |
| 21:45.46 | Celiun | well, guess I didn't give enough information about my problem |
| 21:45.47 | apollo2011 | ok I only asked a question cuz no one else in any other channel (##linux or #knoppix) will answer it |
| 21:46.02 | jason_ | PeTeRB, thanks, it worked |
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| 21:46.09 | shingouz | apollo2011: debian and grub perhaps |
| 21:46.10 | paulswm | apollo2011: Then switch to a distro that's better supported :) |
| 21:46.15 | tarzeau | apollo2011: neither will #debian answer it |
| 21:46.39 | u_int128_t | hi, what was the name of the ncurses UI for apt-get? not dselect but... |
| 21:46.40 | jason_ | i still don't understand why a debian package maintainer would set the default to v4l2 which is an unstable and highly experimental package..oh well |
| 21:46.40 | tarzeau | paulswm: like .. uhm ... debian, maybe? |
| 21:46.47 | apollo2011 | you don't need to get all pissed about it |
| 21:46.50 | paulswm | !prize tarzeau |
| 21:46.57 | shingouz | ah.. tv time for me |
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| 21:47.05 | updala | hi |
| 21:47.10 | paulswm | apollo2011: We get it a lot, that's why we get impatient. |
| 21:47.16 | tarzeau | updala: from which kanton are you in .ch? |
| 21:47.18 | apollo2011 | thats not a reason |
| 21:47.19 | updala | how can i simulate a keyboard input in tty2 while booting? |
| 21:47.32 | updala | tarzeau, zuerich |
| 21:47.45 | updala | tarzeau, u r from AG? |
| 21:47.48 | tarzeau | apollo2011: honey, we just said it to you. nobody got pissed |
| 21:47.57 | tarzeau | updala: well, yeah. but workin' in zh |
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| 21:48.18 | apollo2011 | you poor old bastards |
| 21:48.18 | tarzeau | updala: why would you want to do that. or what do you really want to do? |
| 21:48.25 | paulswm | !singlishsmite apollo2011 |
| 21:48.26 | dpkg | apollo2011: Say some more, lah! Like I care! |
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| 21:48.41 | LoneTech | apollo2011: you haven't installed a bootloader for linux. grub which was mentioned is one, knoppix uses isolinux which is part of the syslinux package. look at syslinux. this is not debian or knoppix specific, but can get quite tricky. |
| 21:48.45 | ZanZuUuBar | I'm trying to cat file.txt, but i only want to see output from lines 130 to 205. how do i do this? |
| 21:48.48 | jethro | !they don't know |
| 21:48.48 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 21:48.57 | tarzeau | ZanZuUuBar: awk |
| 21:49.04 | jethro | apollo2011: ^^ |
| 21:49.20 | updala | tarzeau, i have an application called fbi.. which shows an image in framebuffer.. now i want to disable its statusline.. which is only accessable over keyboard input v .. |
| 21:49.26 | ZanZuUuBar | like gawk? |
| 21:49.26 | sepski | jethro, are you dissing other channels now ? *shocked* :) |
| 21:49.29 | apollo2011 | now I get more people I apologized and people still yell at me. Just because it doesnm't apply to the channel doesn't mean someone will know the answer who happens to be in the channel |
| 21:49.43 | tarzeau | ZanZuUuBar: no, just awk |
| 21:49.50 | ZanZuUuBar | how do i do that? |
| 21:49.55 | ZanZuUuBar | i mean, waht's the syntax? |
| 21:49.58 | paulswm | apollo2011: "you poor old bastards" doesn't count as an apology. |
| 21:49.59 | tarzeau | updala: you want to change fbi then, you have the source, right? |
| 21:50.00 | ZanZuUuBar | i'll read the man page, but what should i be looking for? |
| 21:50.09 | apollo2011 | you guys are total losers |
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| 21:50.17 | tarzeau | ZanZuUuBar: it's easy, give me a minute |
| 21:50.19 | apollo2011 | btw Debian sux thats why I use ubuntu |
| 21:50.20 | tarzeau | apollo2011: FUCK OFF |
| 21:50.23 | LoneTech | ZanZuUuBar: awk can do it, but I'd usually use tail +startline | head -linecount |
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| 21:50.32 | apollo2011 | YOU FUCK OFF YOU BASTARDS I DIDN"T DO ANYTHING |
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| 21:50.38 | ZanZuUuBar | thanks - haha, good solution, LoneTech |
| 21:50.41 | Azar | mentally disabled |
| 21:50.53 | LoneTech | well, that was rude. I gave him an answer and he shouts obscenities. |
| 21:50.54 | bbrazil | ZanZuUuBar: sed -n '130,205p' |
| 21:50.57 | eXoR` | Azar: Mentally disabled people are friendlier. :p |
| 21:51.10 | PeTeRB | eXoR`: They dont' shout? |
| 21:51.18 | tarzeau | ZanZuUuBar: something like this: cat /etc/motd |awk '{if ((NR>2) && (NR<5)) print}' |
| 21:51.23 | sepski | i imagine i answered him rater right away. but i guess he was not looking for an answer, he was looking for a fight |
| 21:51.28 | chealer | the words of a ubuntu user seeking help with knoppix |
| 21:51.33 | updala | tarzeau, i have the code.. but it d be easier to do that like described.. as i never looked into fbi s code.. |
| 21:51.38 | Azar | apollo2011: you seem scare at the sight of Debian run and hide at #unbutu |
| 21:51.40 | PeTeRB | chealer: In #debian |
| 21:51.46 | PeTeRB | Azar: He left |
| 21:51.48 | tarzeau | updala: you can't do that |
| 21:51.52 | Azar | oh :) |
| 21:51.53 | chealer | PeTeRB: but where else? |
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| 21:52.41 | ZanZuUuBar | thanks a lot for your help, everoyne... tarzeau, LoneTech, |
| 21:52.42 | updala | tarzeau, i thought its an easy trick with pipes or so.. anyway.. i try it over uncommenting something.. |
| 21:52.42 | jethro | damn trolls... |
| 21:53.09 | bucky | i hate it when replicants die.. they make so much noise |
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| 21:53.24 | chealer | yeah, if that wasn't a trol... |
| 21:53.29 | ZanZuUuBar | how do I insert a file into a document, using via? |
| 21:53.58 | LoneTech | ZanZuUuBar: assuming you meant vi, you can use :r filename to insert a file under the current line, iirc. |
| 21:53.59 | gvdkamp | ZanZuUuBar: ESC :r |
| 21:54.06 | Peterken | Hello, i was woundering if there is an Microsoft Exchange server equavalent for linux? |
| 21:54.14 | ZanZuUuBar | great ahnk you |
| 21:54.20 | ZanZuUuBar | thank you ** gvdkamp and LoneTech |
| 21:54.27 | paulswm | We can at least take satisfaction in the fact that we pissed him off more than he pissed us off. |
| 21:54.39 | PeTeRB | paulswm: Hah. |
| 21:54.45 | dx^ | can i limit the upload speed on a port range with trickle? |
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| 21:55.12 | sepski | Peterken, there is a openexchange, and it's the first hit on google for "open exchange" |
| 21:55.19 | chealer | paulswm: but that's not even the point. only bastards, losers and BASTARDS ask questions at the appropriate place. |
| 21:55.28 | Peterken | tnx sepski |
| 21:55.40 | paulswm | chealer: Heh, yeah |
| 21:55.56 | PeTeRB | chealer: Heh, case-sensitive :) |
| 21:56.05 | bucky | debian sucks... that's why he can't get help in #ubuntu |
| 21:56.05 | paulswm | Anyway, I was happy for the excuse to use 'singlishsmite' |
| 21:56.10 | Phated | Heh. |
| 21:56.14 | LoneTech | I just wanted to stop the flames, and getting him to read the appropriate docs would seem a good way to do it, but he'd stopped listening. |
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| 21:56.39 | paulswm | LoneTech: He never actually started listening, IIRC |
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| 21:56.45 | Roadrunne | Hi, I added 'Topsearch 20' to my webalizer conf, but it does not show the search strings. What's wrong? I'm using combined logs. |
| 21:57.03 | LoneTech | maybe once in another channel? |
| 21:57.07 | LoneTech | can't tell |
| 21:57.08 | jethro | !tell apollo2011 -about irritate apollo2011 |
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| 21:57.39 | paulswm | jethro! :> |
| 21:57.45 | ZanZuUuBar | gvdkamp: ESC :r then enteR? |
| 21:57.49 | ZanZuUuBar | or ESC :r and then path to file |
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| 21:58.04 | walter | Boa Noite |
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| 21:58.06 | Peterken | sepski: i was thinking about a free alternitive |
| 21:58.10 | simonrvn | did someone +q the whiner? |
| 21:58.11 | benjamindees | you guys are still talking about him and he left five minutes ago... |
| 21:58.19 | simonrvn | ah ok |
| 21:58.22 | walter | alguem pode me dar um help? |
| 21:58.25 | gvdkamp | ZanZuUuBar: ESC :r and then path to file |
| 21:58.32 | Azar | I found a comment by someone on the usenet PeTeRB could you please take a look and see if this setting is correct? |
| 21:58.34 | bucky | apollo2011 I am trying to put Knoppix on my Creative Zen Micro MP3 player |
| 21:58.36 | paulswm | simonrvn: Naah, he screamed at us and left. |
| 21:58.37 | PeTeRB | jethro: Nasty... But he deserves it. |
| 21:58.38 | benjamindees | !portuguese |
| 21:58.39 | dpkg | somebody said portuguese was the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 21:58.42 | simonrvn | oh yeh, just saw the /quit |
| 21:58.43 | sepski | Peterken, then you have a choise of imap server, ldap base, and authentication, and a lot of time to tweeak the thing |
| 21:58.46 | walter | can someone give me some suport? |
| 21:58.52 | Azar | PeTeRB: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/03/msg02444.html |
| 21:59.08 | bucky | !tell walter about ask |
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| 21:59.21 | sepski | Peterken, any imap server should work with outlookish things, and any ldap server should be able to do addressbokk for it, |
| 21:59.22 | jethro | PeTeRB: irritate isn't nasty. that's how I greet a few regulars. well.. ok maybe it was a bit nasty :p |
| 21:59.29 | paulswm | benjamindees: Was 8 minutes at the time of your post :) |
| 21:59.32 | *** part/#debian walter (~walter@c911a812.bhz.virtua.com.br) |
| 21:59.39 | Peterken | ic sepski, thanks i will look for it |
| 21:59.47 | jethro | !ic |
| 21:59.47 | dpkg | i guess ic is (AKA) 'slurpy' or a conspiracy by the Indo-American community to take over your neighborhood via inexpensive groceries and snacks, or Integrated Circuit or "I see" for MORONS who are too lazy to type properly (I C) |
| 21:59.53 | PeTeRB | Azar: That's wierd :| |
| 21:59.54 | benjamindees | paulswm, I debated five and ten, and decided on five :) |
| 21:59.56 | Azar | hey no matter how hard it gets for me, I never get upset at debian |
| 22:00.12 | paulswm | !beer Azar |
| 22:00.29 | Azar | PeTeRB, I read several websites, usenet posts and forums each person comes with some other creative way to set it up |
| 22:00.32 | PeTeRB | Azar: You need to apt-get install alsa-oss alsa-base alsa-utils |
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| 22:01.11 | takatumi | simonrvn: /lastlog what? |
| 22:01.20 | paulswm | I wish someone would visit like the guy who dropped a memory module in the toilet while he was using it and then dried it off with a hair dryer |
| 22:01.31 | Phated | simonrvn: Why would you bother to lastlog? |
| 22:01.38 | simonrvn | noone called him n ass, or stupid, or got upset, and s/he gets all huffy about shit.... some people *need* psychiatric drugs unfortunately... |
| 22:01.55 | jethro | !ganjasmite simonrvn |
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| 22:02.02 | paulswm | HEH |
| 22:02.02 | Azar | PeTeRB alsamixer and alsaconf are included with those packages? |
| 22:02.07 | PeTeRB | Azar: Should be |
| 22:02.12 | simonrvn | no bong, but a pipe or doobie will do ;) |
| 22:02.13 | Azar | cool :0 |
| 22:02.15 | jethro | heh |
| 22:02.19 | jethro | !joint simonrvn |
| 22:02.31 | LoneTech | paulswm: that has a fair chance of working, though my friends tend to use the oven. |
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| 22:02.34 | simonrvn | mmm, tasty |
| 22:02.37 | Azar | !praize the helpers |
| 22:02.43 | paulswm | PeTeRB: Yeah like anyone reads the topic anyway |
| 22:02.46 | Azar | !praise the helpers |
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| 22:03.11 | paulswm | LoneTech: Two words: static electricity :) |
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| 22:03.21 | LoneTech | yes, that's why. |
| 22:03.24 | PeTeRB | paulswm: What about having dpkg topicsmite onjoin? |
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| 22:04.22 | paulswm | PeTeRB: Hey, they don't listen if you personally tell them in channel :( |
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| 22:04.45 | PeTeRB | !qotd51 |
| 22:04.46 | dpkg | <Caelum> arguing is pointless, stupid people will remain stupid |
| 22:04.52 | PeTeRB | ... |
| 22:05.04 | jethro | so true |
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| 22:06.23 | paulswm | It is funny that jethro chased him with irritate. <*makes note to be always nice to jethro*> |
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| 22:06.36 | PeTeRB | To sleep 28800 or not to sleep 28800, that is the question :| |
| 22:06.44 | paulswm | Heh |
| 22:06.59 | PeTeRB | I have an exam tomorrow :/ |
| 22:07.11 | jethro | paulswm: heh |
| 22:07.23 | paulswm | Sleep then! Unless you need to do last minute cramming. |
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| 22:07.45 | Phated | Cram then! You might oversleep. |
| 22:08.03 | jethro | I wish I could oversleep |
| 22:08.07 | PeTeRB | Phated: Right. Like 28800 is whole 8 hours |
| 22:08.19 | PeTeRB | OK then |
| 22:08.29 | Phated | Not that I bothered to figure out how long it was, but you can overlseep no matter how long you meant to sleep. |
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| 22:08.46 | Gujiz | I installed apache+php4+libapache-mod-php4 with apt-get and restarted apache, why still php not working ? |
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| 22:09.11 | K_Dallas | come on jethro! ;) |
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| 22:09.31 | K_Dallas | but if you really insist: here is where i get all my warez: sf.net ;) |
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| 22:09.42 | K_Dallas | both windows and linux! |
| 22:09.44 | laomao_ | Hello - I've installed moinmoin, and followed the instruction in the README.Debian, but when I browse to http://localhost/mywiki I get a 500 error - what do you think I have done wrong? |
| 22:10.11 | jethro | K_Dallas: and you use pr0n-get for the pr0n ? |
| 22:10.21 | K_Dallas | what is that? ;) |
| 22:10.30 | jethro | n00b :) |
| 22:10.32 | jethro | jk |
| 22:10.40 | K_Dallas | all right :) |
| 22:10.52 | Roadrunne | Hi, I added 'Topsearch 20' to my webalizer conf, but it does not show the search strings. What's wrong? I'm using combined logs. |
| 22:11.06 | K_Dallas | warez is waste of time if you ask me |
| 22:11.38 | K_Dallas | lets stay on-topic, shall we? |
| 22:12.16 | lewis | silly question: phpmyadmin doesn't seem to be working on my new system, despite being installed. i have 'Include /etc/apache/conf.d' - and phpmyadmin.conf in conf.d directory - any ideas? |
| 22:12.17 | jethro | K_Dallas: if you insist, lets stay on-topic |
| 22:12.18 | dimitri | what does it mean eth0 is not promisc |
| 22:12.23 | K_Dallas | i discovered that there are a lot of chans debian related on this server :) maybe it would be a good idea to refer people to those chans from time to time |
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| 22:12.38 | jethro | K_Dallas: what are you talking about? |
| 22:12.49 | K_Dallas | #debian-oo for instance for openoffice |
| 22:12.55 | jethro | K_Dallas: well, we already do that |
| 22:12.57 | K_Dallas | debian-sfce |
| 22:13.02 | K_Dallas | xfce* |
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| 22:13.13 | K_Dallas | well i missed it them |
| 22:13.18 | K_Dallas | -m+n |
| 22:13.27 | paulswm | !irritate FieldySnuts |
| 22:13.27 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: hi every1 where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol U FUX0RZ |
| 22:13.32 | FieldySnuts | ,' |
| 22:13.46 | K_Dallas | !irritate K_Dallas |
| 22:13.46 | dpkg | K_Dallas: hi every1 where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol !!!! |
| 22:13.56 | K_Dallas | ;) |
| 22:13.58 | FieldySnuts | @annoy paulswm |
| 22:13.59 | ravenbird | paulswm: HELP!!!!! ANSWER!!!! PLZ!!!!! |
| 22:14.06 | jethro | hah |
| 22:14.09 | paulswm | !singlishsmite FieldySnuts |
| 22:14.10 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: Still say some more! Whack you then you know! |
| 22:14.14 | FieldySnuts | what the? |
| 22:14.19 | laomao_ | dimitri, your card is not set to promiscuous mode - ie packets will only be routed to the cpu is specifically addressed to it |
| 22:14.19 | paulswm | :) |
| 22:14.47 | FieldySnuts | !yorkshiresmite paulswm |
| 22:14.54 | FieldySnuts | brb |
| 22:14.56 | dimitri | laomao_: is that bad ? |
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| 22:15.03 | paulswm | Heh |
| 22:15.09 | K_Dallas | BNP: Banque National de Paris? ;) |
| 22:15.09 | jethro | dimitri: no it's the default behavior |
| 22:15.15 | dimitri | alright |
| 22:15.20 | laomao_ | dimitri, it could be viewed as a positive security measure, and is default behaviour |
| 22:15.24 | lewis | can anyone give me help getting phpmyadmin to work? |
| 22:15.31 | nichos | Can anyone point me to some docs for converting AVI to DVD? |
| 22:15.33 | dimitri | laomao_: thanks |
| 22:15.38 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: hack lewis |
| 22:15.44 | Babbage | is there any kind of unified frontend for lvextend and resize2fs? |
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| 22:15.50 | Babbage | Or do I just do "lvextend _l 20G /dev/grp/lvXX && resize2fs /dev/grp/lvXX" ? |
| 22:15.56 | umopisdn | anyone here played with netreg before? |
| 22:16.03 | LoneTech | nichos: look up avidemux and dvdmenu. those two are the way I got a disc that played in one hw player, at least. |
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| 22:16.45 | nichos | LoneTech i tried avidemux but it was all choppy - anything i was missing/ |
| 22:16.47 | jethro | !anyone |
| 22:16.47 | dpkg | somebody said anyone was ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 22:16.47 | bobibleyboo | Hey does anybody know of a way to sync mail to a pilot in debian I used to use many moons ago pilot-mail sync but it does not appear to be available for deb is their another alternative? |
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| 22:18.18 | LoneTech | nichos: then you probably have a somewhat more picky player and need to use filters in avidemux to adjust the video to match dvds better (framerate in particular) |
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| 22:18.42 | mihaly | whats a good cd-burning application? |
| 22:18.48 | nichos | LoneTech I hadnt burnt it to a disk yet, i was just making it into the dvd format, played it back in mplayer to test and was chopping |
| 22:18.49 | Babbage | cdrecord |
| 22:18.49 | K_Dallas | k3b |
| 22:18.49 | Ronin | cdrecord |
| 22:18.50 | FieldySnuts | cdrecord |
| 22:18.51 | K_Dallas | cdrecord |
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| 22:18.53 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 22:18.53 | jethro | cdrecord |
| 22:18.58 | nichos | LoneTech the preview is choppy too |
| 22:19.00 | LoneTech | cdrdao. |
| 22:19.02 | K_Dallas | mkisofs + cdrecord |
| 22:19.06 | K_Dallas | nero :):):) |
| 22:19.09 | jethro | there weren't enough so I had to add mine |
| 22:19.13 | MrRagga | hi, i only want to install php4-gd and apt-get will install xserver-common ;) |
| 22:19.18 | Thanatermesis | I search a web application that allows site owners to easily create and manage dynamic websites. Im not remember the name of one good... |
| 22:19.20 | Ronin | seems only fair jethro |
| 22:19.24 | Thanatermesis | any idea ? |
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| 22:19.34 | jethro | Ronin: heh |
| 22:19.34 | LoneTech | nichos: sorry, I'm no expert.. just told you the one combo that worked once for me. |
| 22:19.35 | fas3r | hi all |
| 22:19.37 | paulswm | jethro: Good job all 781 people weren't watching, heh |
| 22:19.48 | K_Dallas | :):) |
| 22:19.53 | nichos | LoneTech well, at least its a start - thanks for the help:) |
| 22:20.19 | fas3r | anybody have a laptop toshiba A30 .... |
| 22:20.22 | fas3r | ???????? |
| 22:20.40 | Babbage | is there any kind of unified frontend for lvextend and resize2fs? |
| 22:20.41 | Babbage | Or do I just do "lvextend _l 20G /dev/grp/lvXX && resize2fs /dev/grp/lvXX" ? |
| 22:20.42 | mihaly | whats a good cd-burning application with GUI? |
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| 22:20.51 | Ronin | mihaly: k3b |
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| 22:21.06 | LoneTech | fas3r: linux-laptops.net would be a more appropriate place for that type of question, probably. |
| 22:21.20 | paulswm | !what's really annoying |
| 22:21.20 | dpkg | repeating |
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| 22:21.29 | LoneTech | oops, no s, linux-laptop.net |
| 22:21.30 | laomao_ | so the error log shows a premature end of script headers error... /me thinks |
| 22:21.39 | laomao_ | feel free to sing out if you have suggestions :-) |
| 22:21.42 | fas3r | LoneTech no, i know this laptop was compatible but i have a problem when i compiling my new kernel |
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| 22:22.08 | FieldySnuts | that error is extremely vague in apache, httpd.apache.org look in the docs |
| 22:22.31 | LoneTech | let's see, this is #debian, so you should be starting out from a debian kernel. that means you're turning things off and it stops working. try, er, turning them back on? |
| 22:22.47 | Thanatermesis | I search a web application that allows site owners to easily create and manage dynamic websites. Im not remember the name of one good... |
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| 22:24.15 | mihaly | is it posible to mount a secounds partition on / to increase the size of / or how should I do it? resizing the partition that / is on itn't posible |
| 22:24.30 | fas3r | I have the keyboard but no the touchpad... but with the original kernel (2.4) i have the touchpad.. |
| 22:24.32 | jethro | mihaly: /msg dpkg sicco |
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| 22:26.17 | polie | i aall |
| 22:26.23 | polie | i all |
| 22:26.25 | fas3r | hi |
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| 22:26.45 | polie | any on using bluetooth in warty ubuntu? |
| 22:26.50 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 22:26.52 | dobby | hello im reading a paper about linux security and restricted shells. The author talks about that it is possible to open a shell with the vi editor. I tried that in vi with :r /bin/bash then saved it w "myshell" but cannot execute it afterwords. Can somene tell me what im doing wrong ? |
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| 22:27.14 | evand | So I've been running a locally compiled kernel for a while, installed via the normal kernel source methods (ie not kernel-package), and I'd like to update to the debian-provided 2.6.11 packages. Is there any reason changing over by apt-get installing the new kernel is likely to fail? |
| 22:27.18 | sussudio | !fist polie |
| 22:27.23 | laomao_ | i don't see any evidence in google of this being a common issue... Imust be missing something. Anyone here using moinmoin? What have I done wrong? |
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| 22:27.58 | fas3r | anybody have a laptop toshiba A30 ....? |
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| 22:28.11 | jethro | polie: /j #ubuntu |
| 22:28.14 | dondelelcaro | evand: no, assuming you've used modconf to set up the appropriate modules to install, and made sure the initrd is done properly. |
| 22:28.17 | sussudio | fas3r: NO. |
| 22:28.35 | evand | dondelelcaro: ok, thanks, I'll verify that |
| 22:28.46 | polie | any on using bluetooth in warty ubuntu? |
| 22:28.54 | sussudio | !aolify polie |
| 22:29.06 | paulswm | !ubuntusmite polie |
| 22:29.10 | jethro | polie: this is #debian, go to #ubuntu, you don't want debian answers to your non debian questions |
| 22:29.13 | dondelelcaro | polie: ask in #ubuntu, not #debian, please. |
| 22:29.18 | FieldySnuts | polie: please ask #ubuntu , this is #debian which does not deal with ubuntu. |
| 22:29.26 | LoneTech | dobby: that's not the function you're looking for. |
| 22:29.33 | FieldySnuts | !not supporting ubuntu |
| 22:29.34 | dpkg | We have enough trouble not supporting Debian, without trying to not support ubuntu too. Try #ubuntu or donating money to charity. |
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| 22:29.51 | paulswm | Oh, that *is* a funny factoid |
| 22:30.17 | fas3r | when i compiling if i select MICE for touchpad, i make it on modile or strong.... |
| 22:30.31 | kerneld | mihaly: If you were using something like lvm2, you could extend the size of the logical volume, then grow the filesystem (EG: xfs lets you grow the filesystem while its live), otherwise, you will have to copy the filesystem to a larger filesystem and do some antics to get that mounted. You can pivot the mount point. |
| 22:30.31 | fas3r | module or strong.. |
| 22:30.38 | paulswm | !factinfo not supporting ubuntu |
| 22:30.39 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as not supporting ubuntu, paulswm |
| 22:30.40 | dobby | LonTech: so what am I looking for ? |
| 22:30.46 | jethro | kerneld: mihaly left |
| 22:30.49 | dobby | LoneTech: so what am I looking for ? |
| 22:30.54 | kelan_ | does irssi have a search function? |
| 22:30.57 | kerneld | bahh |
| 22:31.08 | LoneTech | dobby: command execution, probably. things like the ! command. |
| 22:31.12 | LoneTech | or | |
| 22:31.22 | dondelelcaro | kelan: /lastlog |
| 22:31.33 | kelan | dondelelcaro: thanks |
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| 22:31.59 | dobby | LoneTech: what about I have an executable file an then writes the binary of the shell to it. Would that work ? |
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| 22:33.08 | tcsetattr | I think it'd be easier to use the :sh command |
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| 22:34.03 | nse | I have just modelated the second dimension! |
| 22:34.22 | dobby | LoneTech: !sh ;-) |
| 22:35.28 | Thanatermesis | mambo, php-nuke, drupal... any more good ? |
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| 22:36.14 | FieldySnuts | php-nuke == please exploit me |
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| 22:36.33 | dobby | LoneTech: Now i understand it thank you very much man ! |
| 22:36.48 | jethro | dobby: got r00t ? |
| 22:36.58 | dobby | on my computer yes ;-) |
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| 22:37.37 | evand | well, trying these things can be educational. Of course, it's hard to tell who's educating themselves for good purposes and who's not :) |
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| 22:38.29 | jethro | evand: educationnal or not, it's off topic |
| 22:39.08 | Thanatermesis | FieldySnuts, any another good look ? :) |
| 22:39.29 | Thanatermesis | FieldySnuts, I have looked an project with very themes and modules.... Im not remember the name... :S |
| 22:39.43 | evand | jethro: true |
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| 22:40.08 | fas3r | anybody have a laptop toshiba A30 ....? |
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| 22:41.23 | jethro | fas3r: /msg dpkg ask so you can ask better questions, and get some help |
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| 22:41.37 | evand | dondelelcaro: so I haven't previously configured things with modconf. It looks like I want to install the new kernel and then use modconf to set things up correctly. Does that sound right? |
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| 22:42.03 | dondelelcaro | evand: generally speaking, yes. |
| 22:42.25 | evand | dondelelcaro: ok, off to go try that. thanks again :) |
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| 22:43.45 | KmD | how do you install wine? |
| 22:43.53 | jethro | !hdii wine |
| 22:43.53 | KmD | i am new to this |
| 22:43.54 | dpkg | How Do I Install wine ? try apt-cache search wine, then apt-get install the appropriate package(s). Better yet, man apt-cache and man apt-get |
| 22:44.05 | fas3r | jethro i recompiling my kernel with 2.6.11.11 and i have the touchpad |
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| 22:44.33 | fas3r | i dont have the touchpad.... |
| 22:44.40 | giupy | KmD, remember winesetup for a grafical setup |
| 22:44.47 | jethro | fas3r: what is your native language? |
| 22:45.21 | fas3r | i write iso8859-15 |
| 22:45.30 | fas3r | jethro why? |
| 22:45.59 | jethro | fas3r: so I can hopefuly direct you to a channel where they speak this language, and you get better support |
| 22:46.20 | fas3r | jethro lol no body ask me |
| 22:46.27 | gpm | hi. netselect-apt is failing on my box, and i can't figure out why. i'm a DMZ so it can't be a port problem, and i don't know what other firewall issues there may be. i am connected to a linksys router. |
| 22:47.10 | jazzmans | SAdw Trsbsd |
| 22:47.54 | fas3r | i have this problem than 3 weeks ago and all night i post in my native lang chan but anybody ask me or he say .... try again ur compilation.. |
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| 22:48.28 | jethro | fas3r: alright, I ll try helping then |
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| 22:49.11 | bizard | hey |
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| 22:49.59 | bizard | OUCH! |
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| 22:51.00 | paulswm | !singlishsmite bizard |
| 22:51.01 | dpkg | bizard: Still say some more! Whack you then you know! |
| 22:51.04 | glick | excuse me how can i delete a file calld '\' in a directory? |
| 22:51.17 | koollman | glick: rm \\ |
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| 22:51.34 | glick | thanks koollman |
| 22:51.53 | FieldySnuts | yay just got an interested employer and sent my resume off |
| 22:52.00 | FieldySnuts | !win FieldySnuts |
| 22:52.01 | dpkg | Congratulations, FieldySnuts! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 22:52.15 | paulswm | !prize FieldySnuts |
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| 22:54.46 | FieldySnuts | hehe bad girl |
| 22:55.07 | FieldySnuts | damn i want this, i wouldn't have to move... |
| 22:55.08 | laomao_ | Goodnight |
| 22:55.11 | FieldySnuts | bye |
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| 22:55.32 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: keeping my fingers crossed, good luck |
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| 22:55.38 | Azar | newbie question: if I want to download and install some say source code to some alsa modules can I use "apt-get" or "aptitude while I am in /usr/src ? or should I cd back all the way? |
| 22:55.47 | FieldySnuts | for over four times what i'm making now, no less.... god i need this |
| 22:55.53 | FieldySnuts | anyway |
| 22:56.18 | michal_ | is spamassasin the best anti spam solution packaged for debian? |
| 22:56.37 | Azar | cd /usr/src ... apt-get install <package> ? |
| 22:56.58 | bizard | hmm... |
| 22:57.16 | FieldySnuts | oops wrong job, 2.4x |
| 22:57.18 | FieldySnuts | still.... |
| 22:57.22 | Phated | Still. |
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| 22:57.38 | bizard | my cat just died... |
| 22:57.46 | supaman | Azar: to use aptitude it doesnt matter where on the filesystem you are located, it fetches the file from a server and sets it up correctly for you |
| 22:57.53 | bizard | fuck... |
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| 22:58.22 | karsten | bizard: :-( |
| 22:58.33 | Azar | thanks supaman |
| 22:58.39 | Azar | karsten :) hi |
| 22:58.43 | karsten | Azar: Oi. |
| 22:59.01 | karsten | bizard: Like all of a sudden? |
| 22:59.24 | bizard | yeah, my mom was crying and we're having hamburgers AGAIN tonight so I suggested we dig 'er back up and... well... you know. |
| 22:59.32 | FieldySnuts | er. |
| 22:59.42 | bizard | no, the next-door guys' dog got her |
| 22:59.48 | FieldySnuts | that sucks ass |
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| 23:00.00 | karsten | bizard: Jesus. Severe sympathies. |
| 23:00.22 | bizard | yeah I got smacked for the remark though. |
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| 23:02.08 | bizard | i've come to the conclusion that Ronald McDonald is gay. |
| 23:02.16 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: gay? |
| 23:02.17 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 23:02.44 | bizard | okay... then I've come to the conclusion that he is a homo-sexual. |
| 23:02.55 | FieldySnuts | lala not commenting |
| 23:03.07 | shingouz | what do you base that assumption on, bizard? |
| 23:03.22 | shingouz | otoh, i'm not sure if i want to know |
| 23:03.25 | Phated | Assumptions, by their nature, are not based on anything. |
| 23:03.35 | shingouz | good point |
| 23:03.36 | K_Dallas | bizard, for what intention have you decided to investigate his sexuality? ;) |
| 23:03.41 | FieldySnuts | assume; ass out of u and me. </lame> |
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| 23:04.36 | bizard | i dunno... |
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| 23:04.45 | bizard | I just get the feeling he is. |
| 23:05.35 | dondelelcaro | bizard: that has nothing whatsoever to do with #debian. Feel free to discuss it elsewhere. |
| 23:05.35 | bizard | he asked me to have sexual intercourse with him. |
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| 23:05.35 | dondelelcaro | that's great. |
| 23:05.35 | FieldySnuts | thanks. |
| 23:05.42 | FieldySnuts | the username says it all (whois) |
| 23:05.47 | Langly | is there any way to install debian from a single boot netboot floppy |
| 23:05.54 | Phated | Hah. |
| 23:05.57 | FieldySnuts | excuse me, realname |
| 23:06.03 | paulswm | Being unfamiliar with the character, when I moved to the States and saw Ronald MacDonald, I though he was female until someone explained. |
| 23:06.04 | dondelelcaro | Langly: if you've got 2.88M floppies, yes. |
| 23:06.20 | Langly | I can manage 1.72 but not 2.88 |
| 23:06.26 | paulswm | Anyway, see you all. |
| 23:06.35 | dondelelcaro | Langly: then you'll need 2 floppies, iirc. |
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| 23:07.16 | Langly | that might work, saw like 13 floppy images on the ftp and was like crap, I dont have that many floppies heh |
| 23:08.09 | Langly | ive got an old quad pentium pro I want to put debian on that doesnt boot from the cd-rom |
| 23:08.18 | shingouz | quad? neat |
| 23:08.38 | dondelelcaro | Langly: yeah, you can either do floppies, or just rip the harddrive out, and install from a machine that does boot from the cdrom drive |
| 23:08.51 | Langly | Im trying to hunt down some pentium 2 333mhz socket 8 overdrive chips as well |
| 23:08.56 | Langly | dondelelcaro all scsi sca |
| 23:09.02 | dondelelcaro | Langly: that's not a problem |
| 23:09.06 | Langly | dont have anything else with a sca |
| 23:09.11 | shingouz | Langly: i get the feeling that is a compaq... |
| 23:09.16 | dondelelcaro | so move a harddrive into the machine... |
| 23:09.17 | Langly | nope |
| 23:09.17 | glick | hey how do you knock on a room that has a password? |
| 23:09.20 | Langly | not a comcrap |
| 23:09.32 | dondelelcaro | glick: you don't, generally speaking. |
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| 23:09.36 | Langly | AViiON or something weird like that |
| 23:09.40 | shingouz | Langly: netboot floppies and you should be on your merry way |
| 23:10.22 | shingouz | uh. not netboot but netinstall of course |
| 23:10.30 | Langly | I'm rather new to linux, although I did install Gentoo on my laptop, Ive got to look up the syntaxs for commands left and right and such |
| 23:10.40 | exerd_ | i want ipwf to allow forwarding of port 80 traffic to my internal ipaddress |
| 23:10.42 | naoliv | When a package is rejected to be included on Debian (it was on NEW queue), do I need to upload a new revision after changing what was wrong or the revision don't need to be changed? |
| 23:10.42 | exerd_ | how? |
| 23:10.44 | shingouz | you'll learn |
| 23:10.45 | FieldySnuts | some ircd's support that feature, the channel ops can set a mode which lets them see when somebody tries to join (even if they can't). I don't think dancer (which freenode runs) is one of them |
| 23:10.46 | Phated | Eh, since when do you need 13 floppies? Sarge floppy netinst was like, what, 2? |
| 23:11.04 | shingouz | last i looked, two |
| 23:11.08 | dondelelcaro | naoliv: it's generally a good idea to change the revision |
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| 23:11.24 | melas | Update kernel ?!?!? |
| 23:11.33 | dondelelcaro | Phated: yes... 1 if 2.88, 2 if 1.44... |
| 23:11.33 | FieldySnuts | !irritate melas |
| 23:11.34 | dpkg | melas: HELP ME!!! who uses dvd hello? |
| 23:11.43 | karsten | Langly: Not that I'm aware. |
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| 23:11.49 | Phated | dondelelcaro: I see. |
| 23:11.53 | Langly | tomsrtbt is one 1.72 meg floppy |
| 23:11.54 | karsten | Langly: No CD? |
| 23:12.03 | naoliv | dondelelcaro: Right. Thank you! |
| 23:12.03 | melas | dondelelcaro what ? |
| 23:12.13 | Langly | doesnt boot from cd, and i had issues getting a boot disk to see the scsi cd-rom |
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| 23:12.28 | melas | www.bootdisk.com ;) |
| 23:12.35 | karsten | Langly: This *is* covered in the installation guide. |
| 23:12.42 | melas | there u can find many good ones |
| 23:12.44 | eskiled__ | can anyone tell me why when I cp my music directory it omits every directory? |
| 23:12.46 | shingouz | Langly: netinstall floppies. what scsi you have on the box |
| 23:12.47 | atrus_ | i need a non-root-running script to be able to reboot the computer. suggestions for where to start? |
| 23:12.54 | Phated | eskiled__: Didn't use -r? |
| 23:13.05 | eskiled__ | what does recursive even mean :D? |
| 23:13.13 | melas | wnyone who knows anyting about upsate the kernel to tjhe latest? |
| 23:13.25 | Langly | adaptec 2940UW's what would any sane person have :P |
| 23:13.31 | Phated | atrus_: sudo configured to allow it to run without a password? |
| 23:13.38 | shingouz | melas: apt-get kernel-image-whateverversion |
| 23:13.49 | shingouz | melas: apt-get install kernel-image-whateverversion, that is |
| 23:13.55 | Phated | eskiled__: Find a dictionary. |
| 23:14.03 | eskiled__ | dictionary.com is my hero :) |
| 23:14.03 | melas | thx |
| 23:14.06 | shingouz | Langly: that scsi is supported |
| 23:14.08 | atrus_ | Phated, maybe. I looked at sudo, but its configuration didn't exactly seem intuitive. |
| 23:14.27 | Phated | atrus_: <shrug> It's not hard. Try man visudo. |
| 23:14.36 | FieldySnuts | ow |
| 23:14.45 | Langly | Ill get it worked out, just wanted some yes/no answers before putting in lots of research and such |
| 23:14.58 | paulswm | eskiled__: recursive: see recursive :P |
| 23:15.38 | shingouz | Langly: ask questions that can be answered with yes/no ;) |
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| 23:16.49 | kerneld | Hmm down to 20 RC bugs for sarge, me wonders if that will be 0 by sunday :)\ |
| 23:17.00 | atrus_ | Phated, that references 'man sudoers' for syntax, and it's not exactly an easy read. i mean, they use BNF to describe how it used :) |
| 23:17.04 | Langly | here is what confused me |
| 23:17.04 | Langly | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/base-images-3.0.23-2002-07-18/images-1.44/ |
| 23:17.17 | Phated | atrus_: FFS, stop talking and start reading. |
| 23:17.20 | Langly | 20 floppy images :( |
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| 23:17.30 | esop | atrus_: maybe CTL: ALT: DEL: if /etc/inittab is set proper for whatever you desire etc. yeah, man shutdown. |
| 23:17.44 | kerneld | I am sure a bunch or people gave the release anouncement today a second read |
| 23:17.44 | cafuego | kerneld: It will be if you help. |
| 23:17.49 | caphuso | BNF is easy |
| 23:18.21 | kerneld | cafuego: It would be nice if there was a link on that release-critical page that only showed the bugs that effect sarge |
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| 23:18.32 | Phated | Eeep, caphuso and cafuego. |
| 23:18.54 | atrus_ | Phated, geez, I'm reading. thanks for the pointer. I was just saying that BNF is not a good language to talk to regular users in. |
| 23:19.25 | Phated | atrus_: Not that I particularly care. Plenty of people seem to find it understandable. |
| 23:19.34 | caphuso | atrus_: uh, a regular user doesn't need to read "man sudoers" |
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| 23:19.56 | caphuso | "space ships are too complicated, a normal person can't fly them!" |
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| 23:20.22 | Langly | ah I need rescue and root floppies, not those 20 weird base floppies heh |
| 23:20.50 | behrouz2005 | hello, how do i stop x windows from loading |
| 23:20.54 | shingouz | Langly: basically yes. i think there were netinstall floppies too somewhere |
| 23:21.04 | shingouz | !tell behrouz2005 about nodm |
| 23:21.11 | atrus_ | okay, okay. n/m. thanks everybody |
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| 23:21.18 | Langly | those 20 base floppies were what confused me, what are they? |
| 23:21.27 | dondelelcaro | Langly: those are for installing base without a network |
| 23:21.33 | Langly | ah |
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| 23:21.38 | Caffeinated | Langly: For installing base without CD-ROM. |
| 23:21.39 | K_Dallas | !tell K_Dallas about nodm |
| 23:21.41 | Langly | th9ought it was somethin like that |
| 23:21.51 | shingouz | Langly: even the woody installer is just four floppies iirc |
| 23:22.31 | behrouz2005 | and one more question, what is the exclamation mark mean |
| 23:22.40 | thomas_adam | behrouz2005: Sorry? |
| 23:23.00 | shingouz | behrouz2005: it is a bot trigger |
| 23:23.51 | K_Dallas | so if i remove gdm, would i be greeted in a terminal? From where could i start X and Gnome afterwards ? |
| 23:24.02 | Phated | startx? |
| 23:24.05 | thomas_adam | K_Dallas: install xdm? |
| 23:24.10 | Azar | nice, someone has written a "Debian Sarge - The perfect setup" http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_sarge |
| 23:24.11 | shingouz | K_Dallas: yes |
| 23:24.18 | shingouz | uhh.. startx :) |
| 23:24.31 | K_Dallas | ok, so all i would loose is the fancy graphical greeter, right? |
| 23:24.37 | thomas_adam | K_Dallas: Aye. |
| 23:24.43 | K_Dallas | good :) |
| 23:24.48 | shingouz | K_Dallas: you do not need the blingbling in anycase :) |
| 23:24.53 | thomas_adam | K_Dallas: /msg dpkg nodm, essentually. |
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| 23:25.10 | K_Dallas | essentually == essentially + eventually? |
| 23:25.22 | K_Dallas | thanks guys |
| 23:25.23 | [Elvis] | hello, is there any good program out on debian which can give like even a slight defence against DDOS? |
| 23:25.25 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: Hey! How's things? |
| 23:25.33 | thomas_adam | K_Dallas: You're hardly in a position to start correcting people. |
| 23:25.42 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: Exam tomorrow. You? |
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| 23:26.08 | K_Dallas | 1st of all, why not? 2nd of all, i did not correct anyone, 3rd of all, well that is enough |
| 23:26.15 | mhall | How can I get the system to watch the number of threads started by my process and kill it if it starts way too many at a time? |
| 23:26.19 | jethro | !k_dallas-- |
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| 23:26.35 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: Not bad. Been *really* busy, but there are worse things. |
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| 23:26.52 | thomas_adam | I guess. |
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| 23:27.32 | [Elvis] | is there any good program to deal with ddos on debian...I know you can't avoid them...but like handle it.. |
| 23:27.33 | thomas_adam | K_Dallas: If you use 'startx' -- ensure you either have 'update-alternatives --config x-window-manager' set correctly, or use a ~/.xsession file. |
| 23:27.37 | Langly | once I get debian on my server ill be setting up lessdisk so i can netboot any comps on the network fully into linux off of it |
| 23:27.47 | K_Dallas | noted, thanks |
| 23:27.47 | shingouz | [Elvis]: define DDOS |
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| 23:28.25 | [Elvis] | Denial of service attack? |
| 23:28.26 | [Elvis] | :P |
| 23:28.35 | FieldySnuts | network DDoS, no no way to really handle it. you can reject them via your firewall, but that makes it worse. you can drop them, that really doesn't change anything. your ISP has to block it from reaching you, it's mostly out of your hands |
| 23:28.41 | FieldySnuts | DDoS != DoS |
| 23:28.56 | behrouz2005 | i am not sure how to stop x windows from loading, i dont want to delete it though |
| 23:28.59 | [Elvis] | yeah...what I figured...we're being ddos'ed at the moment.. |
| 23:29.04 | thomas_adam | behrouz2005: /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 23:29.15 | shingouz | behrouz2005: remove the display manager |
| 23:29.22 | cafuego | [Elvis]: They're doing a shit job then, you're still online ;-) |
| 23:29.22 | FieldySnuts | [Elvis]: best bet is to call your isp, be ready to give them logs or proof of what's going on |
| 23:29.33 | behrouz2005 | how do i remove the display manager |
| 23:29.40 | behrouz2005 | i'm new to linux |
| 23:29.49 | thomas_adam | behrouz2005: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 23:29.50 | shingouz | behrouz2005: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 23:29.54 | thomas_adam | !tell behrouz2005 -about nodm |
| 23:29.55 | K_Dallas | behrouz2005, pay attention, people have been telling you what to do |
| 23:30.08 | behrouz2005 | alright thanks |
| 23:30.24 | [Elvis] | yeah cafuego ... my friend is being attacked :P I was using his bouncer normally.. |
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| 23:30.57 | bwlang | i'm seeing a segfault when i run doxygen on source code tree |
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| 23:31.07 | FieldySnuts | people running irc bouncers being attacked, imagine that |
| 23:31.20 | behrouz2005 | do i type /msg dpkg nodm in xterm, caus that didn't work |
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| 23:31.25 | [Elvis] | not 'only' irc bouncers :P |
| 23:31.25 | bwlang | i also see a segfault when compiling the kernel... could this be a config problem? |
| 23:31.28 | FieldySnuts | that person needs to talk to their isp and _have proof ready_ |
| 23:31.30 | shingouz | !nodm |
| 23:31.30 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 23:31.31 | K_Dallas | behrouz2005, here in the chan |
| 23:31.38 | jethro | behrouz2005: /msg dpkg the bot, dpkg is a bot, here in the chan |
| 23:31.44 | shingouz | behrouz2005: read what dpkg just said in the channel |
| 23:33.42 | mhall | How can I get the system to watch the number of threads started by my process and kill it if it starts way too many at a time? |
| 23:33.44 | jetscreamer | lies |
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| 23:33.55 | jetscreamer | dpkg is a man pretending to be a bot... it's jethro |
| 23:34.02 | thomas_adam | mhall: You could use PAM, I think -- see /etc/security/limits.conf |
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| 23:34.12 | Azar | shingouz, whatever that "and friends" means? ^^^ from dpkg presentation |
| 23:34.24 | shingouz | Azar: huh? :) |
| 23:34.32 | thomas_adam | mhall: and/or 'help ulimit'. |
| 23:34.38 | Azar | shingouz read what dpkg said :) |
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| 23:35.07 | shingouz | Azar: not sure really. maybe dpkg is throwing a party... |
| 23:35.11 | jethro | Azar: rcconf, file-rc, ... |
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| 23:35.27 | thomas_adam | DrJ: Not cool. |
| 23:35.29 | Phated | Oi. |
| 23:35.30 | Xenguy | keel heem |
| 23:35.31 | Azar | hehe nice |
| 23:35.44 | Azar | DrJ. do you need something? |
| 23:35.54 | Langly | shingouz: Its a Data General AViiON AV36000 |
| 23:35.56 | Langly | -0 |
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| 23:36.09 | ohgood | lol |
| 23:36.13 | cafuego | Friday 03 June, 2005 09:35:21 |
| 23:36.14 | shingouz | Langly: cool. probably a big sucker too :) |
| 23:36.25 | behrouz2005 | what is the best desktop(eg. x windows) out there |
| 23:36.32 | cafuego | behrouz2005: yes |
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| 23:36.42 | Langly | quite big |
| 23:36.47 | bdl | behrouz2005> best as in what? eye candy / function? |
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| 23:36.53 | ohgood | behrouz2005: debatable, till hte cows come home |
| 23:36.53 | Langly | its in the garage under the workbench though |
| 23:37.28 | behrouz2005 | best as in user friendly, easy to use, something close to windows |
| 23:37.32 | shingouz | Langly: i have noticed that smp boxes are really happy with a pre-emptive kernel if they are used as desktops ;) |
| 23:37.58 | FieldySnuts | hrm i have to disagree, i find smp systems feel much slower |
| 23:37.59 | ohgood | behrouz2005: for migrating win-users, prolly kde-3.x.x for now |
| 23:38.09 | K_Dallas | behrouz2005, kde is a good option then |
| 23:38.21 | FieldySnuts | haah nice quit |
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| 23:38.28 | bdl | behrouz2005> yeah, agree, KDE would be a good choice, although it uses more resources than most |
| 23:38.29 | K_Dallas | although i dont see why not gnome |
| 23:38.36 | bdl | gnome is also good |
| 23:38.39 | NewpZ | hi all.. ive been pulling my hair out... im trying to get my "Sylvania CL772b" lcd monitor with my nvidia card (using nvidias latest drivers from their site) to put in 1280x1024 res... months ago when i used redhat it was all detected and i was running @ 1280x1024 but since i went debian, 1024x768.. ive played with the hsync and vsynce and everything... is there a way i can get this working? |
| 23:38.41 | Langly | Wish I could get a quad Xeon 3.6 2 meg cache system and use it for gaming, no way I could afford anything near that heh |
| 23:38.48 | shingouz | FieldySnuts: i got some serious improvements on this one with a patched 2.6. dual P1 |
| 23:38.48 | FieldySnuts | gnome is nice though it feels 'odd' at least to me, i'm not fond of its feel |
| 23:38.58 | sshack | Is there a problem with current debian initrd's? when I installed a new kernel on woody my system no longer boots. Complaining about missing device files in /dev2 (on the initrd) |
| 23:38.58 | bdl | KDE is more 'windows like' |
| 23:39.00 | cafuego | Langly: it'd be a massive waste. |
| 23:39.04 | behrouz2005 | when i have x windows it really slows down my comp and i'm running linux and windows running at the same time |
| 23:39.06 | FieldySnuts | Langly: unfortunately very few games actually use smp at all, unreal tournament is one of the few |
| 23:39.10 | FieldySnuts | and yep a waste |
| 23:39.14 | jethro | NewpZ: first of all you shouldn't be using the drivers from nvidia site in debian |
| 23:39.21 | cafuego | Langly: Your non-multithreaded game would run on one cpu, not on 4. |
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| 23:39.28 | jethro | NewpZ: "/msg dpkg nvidia" for more information |
| 23:39.31 | NewpZ | jethro: ok, do tell |
| 23:39.32 | thomas_adam | sshack: lilo would have mentioned there was an error beforehand... |
| 23:39.33 | Langly | how will gaming do with the multicore cpu's coming out |
| 23:39.33 | bdl | behrouz2005> you have a dual boot or you have something like a VM running linux on top of Win? |
| 23:39.38 | FieldySnuts | even then UT (2004) uses one CPU for video and graphics, and the other for sound. the performance increase is nothing |
| 23:39.43 | sshack | thomas_adam: No it wouldn't have. |
| 23:39.43 | behrouz2005 | ya i have VMware |
| 23:39.44 | FieldySnuts | Langly: no better |
| 23:39.55 | jethro | NewpZ: secondly, you want to add modelines |
| 23:39.56 | sshack | I mean in the actual initrd in the scripts it runs and such. |
| 23:40.02 | bdl | behrouz2005> ah...well then why bother with X at all? |
| 23:40.09 | NewpZ | modelines? |
| 23:40.10 | FieldySnuts | unless the game binaries are recoded and compiled to support them, which is not gonna happen |
| 23:40.19 | sneex | !burp |
| 23:40.26 | jethro | NewpZ: well nevermind the secondly I m confused actually |
| 23:40.27 | behrouz2005 | i could manage my files better |
| 23:40.34 | FieldySnuts | many games in fact suffer from more than one cpu |
| 23:40.35 | behrouz2005 | i guess i dont need it |
| 23:40.41 | Langly | FieldySnuts for most games yes, but I could see valve doing it for halflife |
| 23:40.58 | FieldySnuts | i couldn't, that's an unreasonable ammount of work to satisfy a minority of customers |
| 23:41.12 | bdl | behrouz2005> well if you're using so much CPU/memory to run VMWare & Linux, try something like FVWM2 or blackbox for X |
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| 23:41.13 | Langly | Not any time soon, but in the future |
| 23:41.22 | Langly | or at least for hl2 and mods |
| 23:41.35 | Langly | HL doesnt really need it |
| 23:41.38 | behrouz2005 | what's fvwm2 and blackbox |
| 23:41.45 | thomas_adam | behrouz2005: window managers. |
| 23:41.45 | FieldySnuts | light weight window managers |
| 23:41.48 | Guerin | behrouz2005: windowmanagers fo X |
| 23:41.48 | behrouz2005 | is it something VMware |
| 23:41.52 | bdl | behrouz2005> They're window managers just like KDE or Gnone |
| 23:41.54 | thomas_adam | behrouz2005: Well, 'blackbox' is debatable, but... |
| 23:41.55 | bdl | gnome |
| 23:41.59 | Guerin | nothink to do with vmware whatsoever |
| 23:42.02 | thomas_adam | behrouz2005: No. |
| 23:42.09 | behrouz2005 | oh okay |
| 23:42.14 | thomas_adam | behrouz2005: KDE and GNOME are desktop environments. |
| 23:42.20 | thomas_adam | bdl: ^ |
| 23:42.26 | bdl | behrouz2005> all I'm suggesting is use something that uses very few resources |
| 23:42.32 | jethro | !wb Guerin |
| 23:42.32 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! Guerin has returned! |
| 23:42.39 | Guerin | winneh! |
| 23:42.39 | bdl | thomas_adam> yes? |
| 23:42.40 | dx^ | anyone know a tutorial for Shaper? |
| 23:42.45 | Azar | hi master Guerin :) |
| 23:42.48 | dx^ | !Shaper |
| 23:42.58 | Guerin | herro my dishiple |
| 23:42.59 | behrouz2005 | so fvwm2 uses less resources than x windows |
| 23:43.05 | Guerin | no |
| 23:43.07 | thomas_adam | behrouz2005: ? |
| 23:43.11 | lewis | thomas_adam: hey hey |
| 23:43.14 | bdl | behrouz2005> no, fvwm2 uses less than KDE, they both run on top of X |
| 23:43.18 | Zen_Lunatic | Can someone tell me how to get Debian to recognize the second network card I just put in? |
| 23:43.20 | thomas_adam | lewis: Why aren't you asleep? |
| 23:43.29 | Guerin | x window system is underlying gui code. A mindow manager runs on to of it |
| 23:43.34 | Guerin | on top, too |
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| 23:44.07 | lewis | thomas_adam: quick question regarding phpmyadmin. i have it installed, and am using apache. I have 'Include /etc/apache/conf.d' in httpd.conf, and phpmyadmin.conf in /etc/apache/conf.d/ - why isn't phpmyadmin working at all? it doesn't load anything |
| 23:44.15 | thomas_adam | You can stop calling it fvwm2, as well. It's now just fvwm, version 1 is dead. |
| 23:44.19 | behrouz2005 | really? i though x windows was a window manager, what the difference between a desktop and a window manager then, i'm totally lost |
| 23:44.30 | bdl | lol@dead |
| 23:44.33 | thomas_adam | lewis: Got the .php handlers kiaded/ |
| 23:44.38 | lewis | kiaded? |
| 23:44.42 | thomas_adam | lewis: loaded. |
| 23:44.42 | lewis | oh - let me see |
| 23:44.44 | jethro | behrouz2005: x window != desktop environment != window manager |
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| 23:45.07 | Guerin | behrouz2005: the difference between a DE and a WM is that a WM manages windows and very little else, while a DE has all sorts of other stuff - panels, sound servers, filemanagers, etc. built-in |
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| 23:45.20 | doub | behrouz2005: a window manager manages windows, a desktop manager has one as a required component, but provides several other things as well |
| 23:45.22 | bdl | semantics to a newbie |
| 23:45.28 | Guerin | bdl: no. |
| 23:45.40 | Guerin | bdl: it's an important distinction to start off with. |
| 23:45.50 | thomas_adam | Indeed. |
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| 23:45.53 | _gentgeen_ | which 2.6 kernel should I use with an AMD Duron (1.1G MHz)? |
| 23:46.02 | Guerin | geordie: the one with k7 on the end |
| 23:46.02 | thomas_adam | And one that I've ranted about too many times. |
| 23:46.02 | lewis | the libphp4.so module is loaded |
| 23:46.12 | bdl | valid point, but right now he's figuring out the difference between X and KDE, I personally dont see it's that relevant |
| 23:46.17 | thomas_adam | lewis: Can you run other php files? |
| 23:46.22 | doub | behrouz2005: you can even use some DE with other WM than the default one. gnome with windowmaker is an example |
| 23:46.32 | lewis | thomas_adam: I get a page not found, as if the routing to the phpmyadmin is bad. |
| 23:46.44 | thomas_adam | doub: EWMHs come into play, though. |
| 23:46.55 | thomas_adam | lewis: What about any other php file? |
| 23:46.57 | Guerin | bdl: better to start him off with a clear distinction than to presume he's too stupid to understand that there IS a difference, and then have to relearn it all later |
| 23:47.05 | bdl | bah |
| 23:47.14 | lewis | .php files work fine. just did a test. |
| 23:47.18 | thomas_adam | lewis: OK. |
| 23:47.18 | behrouz2005 | so x windows is my window manager right |
| 23:47.24 | behrouz2005 | no my desktop lol |
| 23:47.25 | cartel_ | anyone have lots of experience with ldap? |
| 23:47.31 | cartel_ | my getent shadow doesnt show the passwords |
| 23:47.33 | thomas_adam | cartel_: My ask2ask protocol sucks. |
| 23:47.36 | FieldySnuts | enough to make me want to jump off a bridge |
| 23:47.49 | behrouz2005 | and when i add windows manager it add extra stuff to my desktop like managing files, did i get it right |
| 23:47.58 | doub | thomas_adam: indeed. what's an EWMH? ;) |
| 23:48.00 | Guerin | behrouz2005: once more: the x window system is a protocol. YOu never see it onscreen. WHat you SEE is a window manager, which works with the X window system protocol. |
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| 23:48.03 | thomas_adam | lewis: For me, it just works. |
| 23:48.09 | thomas_adam | doub: Extendes Window Manager Hints. |
| 23:48.15 | thomas_adam | doub: *Extended. |
| 23:48.20 | lewis | thomas_adam: http://pastebin.com/294277 - that is what is in /etc/apache/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf - what is yours like? for me, it usually just works too, i'll keep thinking |
| 23:48.36 | Guerin | behrouz2005: a window manager draws boxes on your screen and other basic things. A desktop environment comes with lots of preferences and apps and programs made for it. |
| 23:48.40 | behrouz2005 | ohhhh |
| 23:48.48 | doub | behrouz2005: no. a WM only manages windows: it adds a border, a title, a 'close', 'maximize' 'reduce' buttons, workspaces... |
| 23:49.01 | doub | behrouz2005: it reacts when you click on the title |
| 23:49.14 | Guerin | behrouz2005: all desktop environments INCLUDE a window manager |
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| 23:49.26 | zefred | hello |
| 23:49.33 | behrouz2005 | so what kind of window manager comes with debian |
| 23:49.43 | thomas_adam | lewis: Anything in /var/log/apache/error.log ? |
| 23:49.44 | bdl | any kind you want |
| 23:49.47 | zefred | i'm looking for debian-Netinstall-Woody, do you have an url to download it? |
| 23:49.47 | Guerin | behrouz2005: you get to choose from dozens. |
| 23:49.57 | Guerin | zefred: why install woody? |
| 23:50.01 | lewis | thomas_adam: good idea - checking |
| 23:50.01 | doub | behrouz2005: a lot of them. there's fluxbox, fvwm2 for example |
| 23:50.09 | Guerin | behrouz2005: coming from windows? |
| 23:50.11 | behrouz2005 | i mean what is the default when you install it |
| 23:50.15 | zefred | Guerin: woody is the last stable of debian |
| 23:50.16 | Guerin | behrouz2005: none. |
| 23:50.22 | doub | behrouz2005: or metacity for the default gnome window manager |
| 23:50.29 | bdl | it used to be tmw IIRC |
| 23:50.35 | Guerin | zefred: not in another week, it won't be. |
| 23:50.40 | jethro | zefred: that is going to change anytime soon. woody is 3 years old |
| 23:50.53 | Guerin | !wwsr |
| 23:50.54 | dpkg | Sarge will release WIR; SIYH. The current estimate is that it will be released around June 6th. Latest release update: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00020.html and ask me about <sarge pool>, <wir>, <siyh>, <sarge guess> and <sing sarge>. Sarge takes too long? ask me about <vancouver> |
| 23:50.57 | bdl | ...err was that twm |
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| 23:51.16 | Guerin | oh yeah, twm comes with x-window-system metapackage |
| 23:51.32 | Guerin | behrouz2005: check out xwinman.com, look at screenshots and see what looks nice |
| 23:51.37 | doub | behrouz2005: but metacity is so closely tied to gnome it's nearly useless alone |
| 23:51.37 | ticktoc | hey guys... what pkg provides alsaconfig utility? I can't seem to find it anywhere on my system.. |
| 23:51.38 | thomas_adam | xwinman.org |
| 23:51.42 | bdl | many is the night I sat and looked at that puke green twm screen |
| 23:51.45 | Guerin | ticktoc: alsa-utils |
| 23:51.52 | Guerin | oh, .org |
| 23:51.58 | ticktoc | thanks Guerin.. |
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| 23:52.06 | doub | Guerin: what about the others? |
| 23:52.09 | thomas_adam | bdl: It's quite configurable. |
| 23:52.16 | revelater | anyone here know how to configure samba as a file server? |
| 23:52.18 | Guerin | doub: what about them? |
| 23:52.18 | zefred | where do you download a iso of woody netinstall? |
| 23:52.31 | Guerin | zefred: don't. Get sarge. |
| 23:52.31 | zefred | i want to install it in a dedicated server |
| 23:52.32 | bdl | thomas_adam> absolutely, I'm just talking about post-install, just getting started before installing / config |
| 23:52.32 | FieldySnuts | it's a broad topic, i'd ask #samba and join samba mailing lists |
| 23:52.39 | Guerin | !d-i zefred |
| 23:52.40 | dpkg | zefred, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 23:52.42 | doub | Guerin: i was talking about the other days |
| 23:52.54 | Guerin | doub: i'll leave that as an exercise for the reader. |
| 23:53.00 | revelater | FieldySnuts: i am in #samba, nobody lives there |
| 23:53.12 | zefred | Guerin: do you use sarge? |
| 23:53.20 | karsten | OT (doing curriculum stuff). What can be a command in linux? Binaries, scripts, shell built-ins, shell functions, aliases. Missing anything? |
| 23:53.25 | behrouz2005 | so kde and gnome are the window managers which will run x window, or do kde and gnome come with a desktop |
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| 23:53.35 | Guerin | zefred: I use sarge on my server, and sid on my workstations |
| 23:53.38 | bdl | KDE and gnome come with a desktop |
| 23:53.44 | doub | Guerin: because i'm saying the same thing quite everytime. in fact i guess if i'd have a chance, i'd say it everyday |
| 23:54.35 | Guerin | doub: i feel your pain. |
| 23:55.00 | Guerin | zefred: i don't recommend sid for anything, though... but sarge is good, and stable. |
| 23:55.19 | Wyzard | karsten: I think you've covered everything |
| 23:55.23 | zefred | Guerin: it's better to put "linux26" in the installation? |
| 23:55.46 | Guerin | zefred: yes. |
| 23:55.53 | behrouz2005 | would installing fvwm2 or blackbox speed up my comp |
| 23:56.14 | bdl | behrouz2005> not necessarily, but they are more lightweight (use less resources) than KDE or gnome |
| 23:56.21 | Guerin | behrouz2005: nothing can speed up your comp, but blackbox and fvwm are both pretty lightweight, so they might make it SEEM faster. |
| 23:56.21 | revelater | behrouz2005: only if you don't use any of the other WMs |
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| 23:56.23 | shingouz | behrouz2005: probably but why not do a real install without the Vmware |
| 23:56.23 | Phated | Openbox. |
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| 23:56.30 | Guerin | oh god |
| 23:56.31 | zefred | ok thank so much for informations i'll be back |
| 23:56.33 | zefred | see you |
| 23:56.36 | Dict_02x | hi, I have problems installing my acx100 driver in my debian system |
| 23:56.38 | Langly | what util do i need to write root.bin to floppy? |
| 23:56.38 | bdl | shingouz> thats what Im saying |
| 23:56.38 | Guerin | don't use vmware. |
| 23:56.39 | ohgood | behrouz2005: well, not using a larger DE , in favor of a smaller WM, will make it seem faster, ya |
| 23:56.43 | cafuego | zefred: Sarge will be stable by sunday. |
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| 23:56.56 | revelater | what is openbox? |
| 23:57.01 | Phated | Langly: You can use dd. |
| 23:57.08 | Langly | dd? |
| 23:57.10 | Guerin | revelater: the best of the *boxen |
| 23:57.12 | ohgood | revelater: another WM, based on blackbox, iirc |
| 23:57.16 | Phated | JEEZ, man dd already. |
| 23:57.18 | bdl | dd if=root.bin of=/dev/fd0 |
| 23:57.19 | doub | a little OT, has anyone experienced a slightly annoying bug when trying to run d-i with linux26 in vmware? it seems to lock up because of a silly 'sleep 1', as the system timer isn't updated under vmware and 2.6 |
| 23:57.20 | bdl | etc |
| 23:57.25 | Langly | Im on a windows box mind you |
| 23:57.30 | shingouz | Langly: are you on doze now? rawrite in that case |
| 23:57.32 | Langly | going to move to linux soon though |
| 23:57.35 | Phated | Then look for rawrite.exe. |
| 23:57.39 | Dict_02x | hey, anyone knows a good howto on installing my D-Links Wireless Card ? |
| 23:57.39 | bdl | ah |
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| 23:57.49 | Langly | getting it thx |
| 23:57.57 | cafuego | Dict_02x: 90% chance you'll need ndiswrapper |
| 23:58.02 | bdl | Dict_02x> have you searched to verify that your SPECIFIC card is supported? |
| 23:58.05 | karsten | Wyzard: Thanks, just needed a sanity check. |
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| 23:58.08 | Dict_02x | cafuego, yes.. it does |
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| 23:58.22 | cafuego | Dict_02x: Well, ndiswrapper comes with docs. |
| 23:58.25 | Dict_02x | bdl, it is a DWL-650+ Wireless cardbus |
| 23:58.27 | revelater | shouldn't xdm allow me to shoose my session? |
| 23:58.31 | cafuego | Dict_02x: Start by running 'sudo m-a' |
| 23:58.35 | revelater | *choose |
| 23:58.39 | jethro | revelater: no |
| 23:58.49 | Guerin | revelater: no. xdm refers to your .xsession file |
| 23:58.50 | revelater | well i don't want kdm or gdm |
| 23:58.59 | bdl | it can be configured to allow you a choice, IIRC |
| 23:58.59 | Guerin | revelater: if you want a chooser, use kdm or gdm |
| 23:59.03 | Dict_02x | cafuego, as you would notice..... I only have internet on another os.... so I need to download the stuff, and then offline, install them |
| 23:59.03 | jethro | revelater: use an .xsession file, or entranced |
| 23:59.10 | revelater | entraced? |
| 23:59.20 | revelater | entranced? |
| 23:59.22 | doub | Phated: i failed to see the useful thing in openbox, compared to fluxbox, for example. in what respect is it better? |
| 23:59.29 | shingouz | Dict_02x: if you are sure it is the acx100 you should be able to modprobe it in place and use the card. you need to tell your cardmanager what to modprobe for hotplugging though |
| 23:59.29 | jethro | revelater: google for DR17 |
| 23:59.53 | Dict_02x | shingouz, I need to compile the driver.... |
| 23:59.59 | bdl | drool |
